[00:00] <ubuntuROX> its waiting on you t accept it.
[00:00] <f0rmat> may i ask exactly who are the coders of ubuntu are they just everyone or anyone?
[00:00] <cygoku> goat|work ... Windows is not there at all anymore, I installed over it
[00:00] <barslow> x1250: wasnt able to actually get into ubuntu and I dont know enough terminal to diagnose
[00:00] <oddalot> ubuntoROX it won't let me send private msgs on this server, don't know if that will affect sending files as well
[00:00] <RyanPrior> matt____: If the LiveCD doesn't work, it's likely to be a graphics card driver problem.
[00:00] <goat|work> cygoku: oh
[00:00] <Saladin> Oh wow!
[00:00] <ubuntuROX> have an email address?
[00:00] <Saladin> Auto 3D windows
[00:00] <PePa> will I need to boot from the alt.CD, or can I just ...
[00:00] <oddalot><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:00] <maco> PePa: no just have to mount it and add it as a repository
[00:00] <goat|work> cygoku: yes, then if you have,  sure
[00:00] <tanath> f0rmat, you can find more info about that on launchpad.net
[00:00] <dragao-azul> how can graphics card problems be solved in the live cd?
[00:01] <Fishscene> Who had the pink window problem in this screenshot? http://www.multigesture.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/screenshot.png
[00:01] <f0rmat> tanath, thankyou
[00:01] <barslow> RyanPrior: One last question, I have compiz and all my themes setup just the way I like them, will they stay the same after the uprgrade (I'm using AWN with modified Mac4lin and Compiz is all set perfect)
[00:01] <matt____> RyanPrior: perhaps...but 7.10 is working fine. how could i check/fix though? the live cd takes me to a "busybox", not a normal terminal.
[00:01] <x1250> barslow: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the place to look, or ~/.xsession-errors
[00:01] <goat|work> cygoku: i wont be able to watch the channel, so if you have more q's message me
[00:01] <arbrandes> dragao-azul, use "safe graphics mode"
[00:01] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, any advice?
[00:01] <tanath> barslow, should be no change
[00:01] <cygoku> goat|work ... Thank you, and sorry for my rudeness earlier
[00:01] <barslow> hmm
[00:01] <PePa> OK
[00:01] <RyanPrior> barslow: I'd just about bet that something will break and you'll spend hours reconfiguring things. Upgrades tend to mess with your stuff.
[00:01] <dragao-azul> abrandes, then how can i solve the problems? make my ati card work fine?
[00:01] <PePa> thanks Maco
[00:01] <maco> Fishscene: nvidia driver quality
[00:01] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, did you answer my  last question?
[00:01] <kilrae> can you mount an encrypted lvm in Vista?
[00:01] <tanath> barslow, actually..
[00:01] <oddalot> i wonder how nerdy it would be if all these 1500 people where in a room at one time
[00:01] <sileni> he i installed build essential and tried to "make" but i get this error http://pastebin.com/m6dda8b39
[00:02] <ubuntuROX> there you go,, thats the one thats set for resolution auto,  it should work for you.
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, are you able to get a DHCP IP from the router?
[00:02] <barslow> ryanprior: im just gunna stick with gutsy then
[00:02] <maco> barslow: should stay, yes
[00:02] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, no - i get "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[00:02] <oddalot> ok thanks, let me try it
[00:02] <ubuntuROX> modes anyhow
[00:02] <barslow> wow conflicting opinions
[00:02] <tanath> barslow, it may switch to the new default theme, but you can save your current theme/settings, and switch back after upgrade
[00:02] <Jimdb> matt___try a different CD reader...try adding ide=nodma on command line when you boot into the installer.
[00:02] <RyanPrior> oddalot: That's the Ubuntu Live conference. :-)
[00:02] <laeg> barslow: stick with gutsy forever?
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, do you know your routers ip address? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[00:02] <matt____> RyanPrior: perhaps...but 7.10 is working fine. how could i check/fix though? the live cd takes me to a "busybox", not a normal terminal.
[00:02] <sileni> i dont understand how to change the flags
[00:02] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:02] <tanath> barslow, i didn't have that problem though
[00:02] <sileni> like that error states
[00:02] <barslow> laeg: i dont want to but i dont wanna risk having to reformat my HD again
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, are you using KDE or Gnome?
[00:02] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, gnome
[00:02] <Fishscene> Maco: it looked like the "mirror" or "shadow" (I forgot which) option in Compiz could fix that issue (Disabling the mirror or shadow effects)
[00:03] <oddalot> RyanPriot: Where is this ubuntu live conference?
[00:03] <mohbana> can i install ubuntu from a ntfs? without the wubi thing? i don't have a dvd to burn it on
[00:03] <oddalot> err when too
[00:03] <maco> barslow: your compiz settings will be saved.  there are more features in the new compiz though, so you might want to explore them after you upgrade
[00:03] <basso> I Love You All!
[00:03] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, have you tried setting your IP to <IP_ADDRESS>, your netmask to <IP_ADDRESS>, and your gateway to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[00:03] <tanath> barslow, there's always a risk when upgrading. personally, it fixed a lot of stuff for me, and i had minimal issues
[00:03] <matt____> RyanPrior: well, what would i search google for to fix this graphics card setting?
[00:03] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, I have (with <IP_ADDRESS>) as .100 is already taken
[00:03] <tanath> barslow, and none of my settings in anything changed
[00:03] <ubuntuROX> I think its faster than gutsy was.
[00:03] <RyanPrior> barslow: It's certainly possible that you could upgrade and have everything work perfectly - the Ubuntu developers certainly try hard to make that happen. You can't bet on it, though.
[00:03] <Flannel> mohbana: there are ways to install without burning, check it out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[00:03] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, is <IP_ADDRESS> taken?
[00:03] <oddalot> brb
[00:04] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, yes
[00:04] <Saladin> Hm.
[00:04] <LOVElinux> salve a tutti!
[00:04] <RyanPrior> matt____: Google and the Ubuntu Forums are good places to search.
[00:04] <DBautell> heh, "select best server" "no suitable server was found"
[00:04] <tanath> yeah, it's faster :D
[00:04] <barslow> tanath: i am correct in assuming if I run the live-cd and have no issues that the upgrade will work?
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, do that now...
[00:04] <maco> RyanPrior: given my hardware, id take that bet
[00:04] <Saladin> I am unable, for some reason, to install any extensions.
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> set your ip to <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:04] <barslow> RyanPrior: same question
[00:04] <RyanPrior> matt____: If you can get a hold of Amaranth, he/she tends to know a lot about graphics card issues as well.
[00:04] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, i have tried a manual set up through gnomes network manager and through /etc/network/interfaces and it still doesnt work
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> netmask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:04] <Saladin> Sorry for being a pain - first upgrade.
[00:04] <tanath> barslow, that should be the case, though i've seen the livecd not work, and the install work...
[00:04] <Cpudan80> Anyone know why I can't play 2 sounds at the same time?
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, check your PMs
[00:04] <maco> barslow: im using my compiz settings from feisty
[00:04] <Saladin> And I mean, extensions in Firefox.
[00:04] <ubuntuROX> make sure that FF3 is completely shut down before starting ff2
[00:04] <maco> barslow: it works fine
[00:04] <matt____> RyanPrior: ok, thanks
[00:04] <barslow> tanath: interesting
[00:04] <ng01> saladin.  ur such a pain... :)
[00:04] <romulo> hi, i installed the fglrx driver on ati but fgl_glxgears is not working and 3d apps are generally slow (like q3 in this super machine), can anyone hlelp me?
[00:04] <dragao-azul> if i install ubuntu is there any "easy" way to get my ATI HD2900Pro card working with all the graphics effects?
[00:05] <x1250> Cpudan80: upgrading from gutsy?
[00:05] <Cpudan80> like ehh if I am using rhythmbox and xchat at the same time - and I get pinged in xchat, I wont hear the ping
[00:05] <Cpudan80> x1250: Yeah - just did
[00:05] <ubuntuROX> Saladin,, make sure FF3 is completely shut down before starting FF2
[00:05] <ben-g> i enabled my wireless in restricted drivers. Why won't it work?
[00:05] <tanath> barslow, there can be issues running of a disc. it's slower for one
[00:05] <RyanPrior> barslow: No, the LiveCD is not proof positive that the upgrade will work. The upgrade is affected by all the changes and customizations you make, so some of those may be messed with and you'll have to reconfigure things the way you want them.
[00:05] <matt____> Amaranth: hey buddy...after trying the 8.04 live cd (kubuntu and ubuntu), neither boots, both take me to a busybox, could this be a graphics issue?
[00:05] <igormorgado> is there any kernel difference between server/desktop  editions?
[00:05] <x1250> Cpudan80: try installing pulseaudio
[00:05] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, check your private messages
[00:05] <mad_max02> Would it be smart to go for update to hardy or is a clean install better choice ???
[00:05] <maco> romulo: are you using fglrx on a card that is so old its not supported with taght driver? thats the symptoms i saw when opensuse tried to use that driver on a radeon 9250
[00:05] <barslow> I'm real nervous about upgrading
[00:05] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, I cant reply as im not registered - let me register
[00:05] <ubuntuROX> otherwise you are still actually running FF3,, same thing happens the other way.
[00:05] <tanath> dragao-azul, run 'gksu displayconfig-gtk'
[00:05] <igormorgado> omg.. the chanel is very busy today, more than usual =D
[00:05] <matt____> mad_max02: i alwaws clean install. the only time i tried updating, it didn't work right :(*
[00:05] <x1250> Cpudan80: then configure pulseaudio to be used in system->prefs->sound
[00:05] <romulo> maco, my card is supported, its an x600 mobility
[00:05] <barslow> i finally have ubuntu exactly how i like it
[00:05] <tcpdumpgod> okay glaxo
[00:06] <Cpudan80> x1250: I'll give it a shot - thanks
[00:06] <dragao-azul> tanath, after that will it work fine? i don't have to do anything else?
[00:06] <Fishscene> Conventional wisdom dictates that clean installs are always better (and cleaner) than upgrades
[00:06] <ubuntuROX> my ubuntu is so how I like it its booring now :)
[00:06] <RyanPrior> barslow: If you have it exactly how you want it, no pressure to upgrade! It's still supported for many months.
[00:06] <gnuskoo1> barslow: go on, it'll be alright, or fun sorting it out
[00:06] <igormorgado> is there any kernel difference between server/desktop  editions?
[00:06] <tanath> dragao-azul, to configure X right. then run 'glxinfo | grep -i direct' to check for direct rendering
[00:06] <mad_max02> matt____, thanks dude. I'll dl the 64 bit ver and install it tomorrow.
[00:06] <iDano84> ok, I got Ubuntu discs in the mail today. I'm the first to admit, I know little to know little to nothing about linux. When I pop in the disc (v 7.10 x64) I select install Ubuntu, and then loss of video input. I Have no idea where to start?
[00:06] <RyanPrior> barslow: If it's perfect right now, then it's only downhill from here, right?
[00:06] <RyanPrior> igormorgado: Nope, same kernel.
[00:06] <teo-> i need some help.. when i try to start ubuntu it doesn't start.. some busybox shell is started please help ?:S
[00:06] <igormorgado> RyanPrior: thank you
[00:06] <tanath> dragao-azul, there's a 'test' button to make sure you have it configured right, but after that, it should be good
[00:06] <RyanPrior> igormorgado: Same kernel, same packages, same tool chain, etc.
[00:06] <pale-yafa> guys, I have no firebug any more, cant work like that, why this is not mentioned?
[00:07] <Saladin> Yeah, I made sure FF3 was shut down, but still no success in installing extensions
[00:07] <RyanPrior> pale-yafa: Firebug works.
[00:07] <gnuskoo1> igormorgado: no, server has no desktop only
[00:07] <dragao-azul> tanath, ok, thz i'm going to try that
[00:07] <tanath> Saladin, still having trouble with extensions? did you try that extension i mentioned?
[00:07] <ubuntuROX> wierd,, you went to terminal and ran ps ax|grep firefox
[00:07] <maco> pale-yafa: firebug 1.2
[00:07] <barslow> RyanPrior: agreed
[00:07] <pretender> koverartist I cant select case in ubntu.  Any Ideas
[00:07] <pale-yafa> RyanPrior: its not, I upgraded to 8.4 and its telling me  its not compitable
[00:07] <Saladin> Sorry tanath, I missed what you said.
[00:07] <james_> how long would the online update to 8.04 take?
[00:07] <maco> pale-yafa: firebug 1.2
[00:07] <Dason> So..... what do I do if I can't download and install 8.04 if it won't work through the 'recommended' way?
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, no you didn't
[00:08] <joh6nn> i'm not quite sure how to explain this properly, but whenever i use screen, apps like vim, that do their own paging, don't clear the screen properly.  i'm fairly certain that i just need to tell screen to pretend it's a different terminal, but i don't know which terminal to tell it to be.  anyone have ideas?
[00:08] <barslow> i think i'll wait untill there are a couple updates to 8.04 b4 taking the plunge
[00:08] <maco> pale-yafa: you need to update your firebug
[00:08] <ubuntuROX> just to make absolutely sure it was shut down?
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, was a while ago. you acknowledged it
[00:08] <dee_cz> hi, im running the memtest from ubuntu cd, how long should it take?
[00:08] <igormorgado> gnuskoo1: thank you too =D
[00:08] <cygoku> Using Hardy Heron RC here ... Are the repos down ??
[00:08] <maco> cygoku: of course
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, nightly tester tools extension
[00:08] <ubuntuROX> yes,, but cygoku did you update recently?
[00:08] <gnuskoo1> i got thinkpad r51 and gnome is really sluggish on xfce, any hints? intel 82528 graphics card
[00:08] <RyanPrior> dee_cz: It will take forever, literally. It keeps running until you tell it to stop.
[00:08] <cygoku> Maco : "of course" ??
[00:08] <barslow> ryanprior: can you choose to install8.04 without Firefox beta3
[00:08] <maco> cygoku: its release day for a very popular distro.  what makes you think they could survive that?
[00:08] <Fishscene> All Servers for Hardy Heron are bogged down at the moment and likely will be for at least another day.
[00:08] <Dason> what do I do if I can't download and install 8.04 if it won't work through the 'recommended' way?
[00:08] <teo-> i need some help.. when i try to start ubuntu it doesn't start.. some busybox shell is started please help ?:S
[00:08] <Flannel> igormorgado, RyanPrior: There are kernel differences.  They have different hardware support (non-server is more likely to support 'regular' obscure hardware), and server has PREEMPT turned off, among other changes.  Of course, you can run a server kernel on the desktop, or a generic kernel on a server.
[00:08] <RyanPrior> dee_cz: The longer it runs without errors, the more sure you are that you don't have faulty memory. :-)
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, makes firefox think your extensions are compatible. but i recommend enabling them one at a time
[00:09] <matt____> Amaranth: hey buddy...after trying the 8.04 live cd (kubuntu and ubuntu), neither boots, both take me to a busybox, could this be a graphics issue?
[00:09] <maco> cygoku: this happened last time too.
[00:09] <dee_cz> RyanPrior: do you know what is the 'safe' margin? how long should it run so that i can say it probably isnt the memory?
[00:09] <RyanPrior> barslow: Nope, distro upgrades are all-or-nothing affairs pretty much.
[00:09] <tanath> Saladin, 'cause some will work, and some won't, and some may prevent it from running
[00:09] <ubuntuROX> michael If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[00:09] <cygoku> I think they can survive that because nothing should affect the linux image
[00:09] <Dason> what are other methods of installing 8.04?
[00:09] <ubuntuROX> cygoku If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[00:09] <RyanPrior> dee_cz: If you're seriously suspicious about your memory, I'd run it for a few hours to get your memory really hot and loaded.
[00:09] <igormorgado> Flannel: I wish to know if desktop one has virtualization support.
[00:09] <maco> cygoku: last time the entire ubuntu.com was taken down and replaced with a plain white background, black text "welcome to ubuntu.com here's a list of download links:" page
[00:09] <gnuskoo1> teo-: what messages you getting?
[00:09] <cwillu> pale-yafa, this is kinda scary:  you need to use firebug, but you can't be bothered to check getfirebug.com, where it lists a version of firebug that works with ff3? ;p
[00:09] <DBautell> dason, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. To mount the ISO you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[00:09] <tmccrary> So.... Hardy breaks eclipse
[00:09] <tanath> Saladin, if you end up enabling a bad one that prevents it from running, then run an older firefox to fix it
[00:09] <tmccrary> Fantastic
[00:10] <tanath> Saladin, (ie., disable that extension)
[00:10] <DBautell> Dason, or did you mean a fresh install?
[00:10] <maco> Dason: whats the recommended way that you cant do?
[00:10] <dee_cz> RyanPrior: its that xp is turning sound from the card into a squeal and gives a bsod every other day, with no specific error... but the 8.04 runs fine :/
[00:10] <Saladin> Well, strangely enough, tanath, that extension installed okay.
[00:10] <RyanPrior> tmccrary: Eclipse is not well supported on Ubuntu. However, I downloaded the latest Eclipse and run it from my /home folder, and it runs fine.
[00:10] <Dason> the update manager
[00:10] <Saladin> Whereas all others aren't.
[00:10] <tanath> Saladin, the nightly tester tools? of course ;)
[00:10] <jrabbit> ok
[00:10] <tmccrary> RyanPrior: Thanks for the tip. It ran great with Gutsy....
[00:10] <Fishscene> My hats off to Hardy Heron! Built in VMware support? How cool is that?
[00:10] <Dason> I don't want a fresh install
[00:10] <jrabbit> It errored for the third time
[00:10] <teo-> gnuskoo1 i don't get anything i am just putted in the busybox shell
[00:11] <pale-yafa> cwillu: how would I know thats its there? I just got a message that firefox beta does not support firebug, maybe it should say THIS VIRSION of firebug
[00:11] <rich_freecomm> heh, never download the desktop iso and the aleternate iso then try to update manager the new release.....it's gonna take me awhile :)
[00:11] <DirkGently> hey Fujitsu: tested Kubuntu on my laptop... the bcm43xx works fine... the PC even picks up my wireless router now without manual config... it was worth waiting a day :)
[00:11] <maco> Dason: whats the way that you cant install? we cant recommend alternatives without knowing what it was
[00:11] <jrabbit> [477.497091] Buffer I/O error on device sr0 Logic lock 169346
[00:11] <dryrot> does xen actually work in hardy ?
[00:11] <Dason> When I use apt-get and the default method of upgrading, it tells me that it can't connect to the server and to check my connection even though it's fine
[00:11] <jrabbit> Repeats
[00:11] <RyanPrior> pale-yafa: That's true. A better error message would be helpful.
[00:11] <jrabbit> then a SQUASHFS error
[00:11] <pale-yafa> anyway, if any body interested: Samba broke while upgrading
[00:11] <maco> Dason: oh...wait 2 days
[00:11] <Killeroid> Dason: too many people upgrading right now, servers hammered
[00:11] <ubuntuROX> Dason,, all the servers are bogged down with users
[00:12] <Dason> Oh that's sensible
[00:12] <Dason> No alternate repo's?
[00:12] <RyanPrior> Dason: Or, download the alternate CD via BitTorrent, burn it and put it in, and upgrade off of there.
[00:12] <gnuskoo1> do they release server download stats?
[00:12] <maco> Dason: theyre all pounded too :P
[00:12] <Some_Person> Why are there no updates available for my hardy-rc?
[00:12] <Dason> I have the cd
[00:12] <tanath> Saladin, a 'nightly' is a cutting edge build, released every day. it's an extension designed to enable extensions for testing on versions of firefox they aren't designed for
[00:12] <oddalot> hi can someone help me setting up my monitor with xorg.conf i can only get 640x480 and i had it working fine in 7.10
[00:12] <maco> Dason: you can upgrade from an alternate cd
[00:12] <ubuntuROX> Some_Person If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo update-grub to fix that.
[00:12] <CyberCod> can someone tell me the md5sum for Hardy Desktop iso?  just burnt a fresh copy and it is bunk
[00:12] <maco> Dason: and there actually is a way to make it search for faster/working repos
[00:13] <tanath> Dason,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:13] <c0mp13371331337_> Help!  I started my dist-upgrade from work via SSH and miscalculated how long it would take!  I now have to leave work (and close the SSH connection).  If I send the apt-get process to the background, can I bring it to the foreground in a terminal window at home?
[00:13] <cwillu> Some_Person, the rc became the r
[00:13] <thebigham> What program can i use for ubuntu to display cpu temperture?
[00:13] <maco> Dason: but um...ask someone who uses a GUI how to do it, not me
[00:13] <Dason> Bittorrent was killer fast. so.. what's the command to use while in the cd?
[00:13] <pale-yafa> also: image with transparent backgrounds are having frames, which was not the case with Gutsy
[00:13] <maco> Dason: what tanath said
[00:13] <Some_Person> cwillu: with no changes?
[00:13] <Mike> Live CD only running at 800x600 on NV5700 card - any ideas...?
[00:13] <marx2k> So upgrading from ISO can only be done from the alternate install CD?
[00:13] <ubuntuROX> Some_Person If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo update-grub to fix that.
[00:13] <RyanPrior> Some_Person: the RC and the final release are the same thing, unless the RC has major errors that get fixed.
[00:13] <jrabbit> tanath: Buffer I/O error on device sr0
[00:13] <[T]-Rex> anyone from sydney?
[00:13] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, you're not in the best state
[00:13] <twinkie_addict> i'm looking forward to trying hardy . i'm installing via wubi
[00:13] <jjt001> how do i block a webpage in ubuntu?
[00:13] <maco> marx2k: yes
[00:13] <ubuntuROX> Some_Person did you see that?
[00:13] <JPSmon> this is madeness!!
[00:13] <Flannel> marx2k: That's correct (or the DVD)), the desktop CD doesn't support upgrades (except for reinstall)
[00:13] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, ideally, having started it in a screen session, you'd be fine
[00:13] <maco> jjt001: parental-control-style?
[00:13] <marx2k> oh well
[00:13] <Some_Person> ubuntuROX: yes, XChat highlighted it red
[00:13] <jjt001> maco: yeah
[00:13] <robeph> anyone familiar with automount/autofs?
[00:13] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, is it still downloading, or actually installing now?
[00:13] <maco> dansguardian
[00:13] <tanath> jrabbit, o.O
[00:14] <Some_Person> ubuntuROX: what does update-grub do?
[00:14] <Dason> That's what I was looking for, thanks tanath
[00:14] <jrabbit> I serached on fourms
[00:14] <jrabbit> no dice
[00:14] <c0mp13371331337_> cwillu-  It's still downloading.
[00:14] <tanath> Dason, np
[00:14] <maco> Some_Person: rewrite your menu.lst based on the options set at the top of it
[00:14] <mad_max02> Where can I find full DVD of hardy for amd64 ???
[00:14] <ubuntuROX> it changes the label in your boot manager,, they forgot to do that
[00:14] <tmccrary> Man it would be so great to have an operating system that doesn't cause your apps to crash at random intervals
[00:14] <c0mp13371331337_> X-)
[00:14] <tmccrary> think of the possibilities
[00:14] <mad_max02> torrent would be nice
[00:14] <Some_Person> ubuntuROX: and i want that why?
[00:14] <DBautell> !torrents | mad_max02
[00:14] <ubotu> mad_max02: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[00:14] <Ertyle> !offtopic | tmccrary
[00:14] <ubotu> tmccrary: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:14] <Dason> Torrent has BLAZING speeds for downloading right now
[00:14] <maco> mad_max02: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[00:14] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, I think you'll be okay then;  you'll have to revert the changes to sources.list, but then you should be able to restart it (it'll reuse the packages it downloaded)
[00:14] <jjt001> maco: do you know how to block sites?
[00:15] <robeph> can't i just update my beta hardy to release ;) heh
[00:15] <jrabbit> can any one help me?
[00:15] <tmccrary> !offtopic | flyingspaghettimonster
[00:15] <CyberCod> anyone?  can anyone tell me the md5sum of the 8.04 desktop cd?   I need to know if it is my hardware that is malfunctioning or a bad disc
[00:15] <ubuntuROX> because you are already on the stable version, they just forgot to update the label where it says development version.
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[00:15] <scizzo-> Dason: might be that there is almost 5000 seeders at the moment
[00:15] <maco> jjt001: dansguardian is a program for doing internet content filtering for parental controls
[00:15] <RyanPrior> Torrents are super fast! There are about 5000 seeds and 3000 peers right now.
[00:15] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, I think so, yes
[00:15] <robeph> cwillu: pretty much
[00:15] <robeph> couple days behind?
[00:15] <IndyGunFreak> jrabbit: whats the problem?
[00:15] <redstelwerk> hello folks, could anyone post the /etc/apt/sources.lst from hardy to a pastebin, mine turned into a mess and I want to clear it out. thanks!
[00:15] <DBautell> mad_max02, the DVD torrents are pitiful, though
[00:15] <Dason> And that's why
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[00:15] <cwillu> robeph, you're probably running the release then
[00:15] <jjt001> maco: thanks
[00:15] <c0mp13371331337_> cwillu - Thanks a ton, you're a lifesaver!
[00:15] <Saladin> Although, tanath, it is now showing all my extensions on this FF2, but none of them work, and I can't click on enable or anything for them. However, before I did the Hardy upgrade, they all worked fine.
[00:15] <robeph> cwillu: ah ok
[00:15] <sileni> guys i get CFLAG error when i try to "make" anyone know solution?
[00:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[00:16] <mad_max02> DBautell, what do you mean by that ???
[00:16] <scizzo-> I have been seeding since the official announcement came out..... :S and its well hammering my network at the moment
[00:16] <jrabbit> IndyGunFreak: I can't get into any install enviorment avilible on the desktop CD
[00:16] <maco> sileni: dont use that CFLAG?
[00:16] <cygoku> I cannot believe repos are down ... Ppl would go mad insane and crazy if Microsoft Update would go down for even a second.
[00:16] <sileni> no
[00:16] <DBautell> mad_max02, 20-40k :(
[00:16] <oddalot> hi, my computer is gay, k thanks
[00:16] <robeph> so anyone familiar with autofs?
[00:16] <ubuntuROX> are you sure you are launching the FF2 version?
[00:16] <maco> jrabbit: bad burn?
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> jrabbit: the live CD's don't work?
[00:16] <jrabbit> Not sure
[00:16] <sileni> maco, i try to make and it says that i do not know how to get past this
[00:16] <nous> hi, big problem : I just uprgaded to hardy and my graphic card is not recognised anymore (an Intel 945). What can I do ?
[00:16] <arbrandes> oddalot, rofl
[00:16] <Saladin> Yes, ubuntuROX
[00:16] <sebastian> Hi, I'm having some issues with "Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI". I tried using some guides for 7.10 that are supposed to work for 8.04, but it isn't found in iwconfig.
[00:16] <jrabbit> maco: I can't verify the disk.
[00:16] <spork969> what are some dreamweaver-esque programs out there? i need a full functioning website and i don't have the time to brush up on my HTML
[00:16] <Dason> System > admin > softy srces > select best
[00:16] <mad_max02> DBautell, ah its ok. I got time :D I wasnt gonna install it until tomorrow anyways :D
[00:16] <oddalot> stupid monitor won't display right
[00:16] <ubuntuROX> hmm,, IM not sure then,, mine worked fine..
[00:16] <maco> oddalot: your computer fancies other computers of the same sex?
[00:17] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Microsoft doesn't have everybody clamoring for upgrades to Vista. If they made something people wanted, maybe they would have a harder time keeping up with demand. :-)
[00:17] <linkmaster03> When will the repos be back up grr
[00:17] <maco> jrabbit: why not?
[00:17] <nous> hi, big problem : I just uprgaded to hardy and my graphic card is not recognised anymore (an Intel 945). What can I do ?
[00:17] <ubuntuROX> oddalot that wouldnt do it for you?
[00:17] <tanath> Saladin, i had a weird issue like that the first time i tried to use the nightly exension. try restarting it, and make sure you select an extension, then right click and 'make compatible'
[00:17] <oddalot> nah
[00:17] <jrabbit> maco: It causes errors on disk
[00:17] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Besides, torrents are super super fast right now, and you can get all the packages via torrent.
[00:17] <DBautell> You're all set, then, mad_max02
[00:17] <maco> spork969: Nvu Kompozer
[00:17] <kasper> hey.. anyone care to help with some nvidia problems on hardy? - ive installed driver and it worked just afterwards. Its not working after a reboot.
[00:17] <jrabbit> I'll reburn and verify
[00:17] <maco> jrabbit: guess what that means?
[00:17] <Dason> Wish XP wasn't getting dropped in June.
[00:17] <oddalot> i had to go back to default, it's this stupid old monitor
[00:17] <jrabbit> maco: ?
[00:17] <ubuntuROX> could always try what I did, with the manual install as root
[00:17] <cygoku> Oh I can get packaged trough torrent ?
[00:17] <the_darkside_986> i'm having trouble since Hardy clean upgrade.  Is there a command to fix that?
[00:17] <cygoku> Link ?
[00:17] <DooMRunneR> damn wlan issues i have enough for today
[00:17] <DooMRunneR> good night :)
[00:17] <maco> jrabbit: if it cant verify because of errors, that confirms that its a bad burn
[00:17] <sean_> Dason: Why? Now you have a reason to go to ubuntu exclusively
[00:17] <jrabbit> It mounts fine in OSX
[00:17] <Dason> thepriratebay.org
[00:17] <SeaPhor> Has anyone discovered if RTL8185 wlan chipset works in 8.04? please?
[00:17] <Ian1> would anyone here be willing to help me (noob) fix grub for my new ubuntu install?
[00:17] <mad_max02> DBautell, yeah. I thought of upgrading my gutsy but I'll go with clean install. I wanna resize / partition to 50gb. I made a mistake and made it 100gb first place :D
[00:17] <oddalot> anyone here running a crt?
[00:17] <tanath> Saladin, um, i thought you were trying to enable FF2 extensions for FF3?
[00:18] <ariqs> Same here, dason. XP is a good OS despite what all the haters say ;)
[00:18] <cwillu> cygoku, this is typical stuff (look at any other app that has massive demand on very particular days, (which means I'm not talking about automatically downloaded windows updates, which are throttled precisely to avoid those problems :p))
[00:18] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Read the topic. Download the torrent for the Alternate CD.
[00:18] <maco> jrabbit: doesnt mean the data's not corrupt
[00:18] <jrabbit> iguess
[00:18] <Killeroid> redstelwerk: http://pastebin.ca/996448
[00:18] <linkmaster03> When will the repos be back up?
[00:18] <nibsa1242b> Quick question, is there a reason why a network upgrade is preferred to using the alternate disk?
[00:18] <redstelwerk> thanks Killeroid!
[00:18] <maco> linkmaster03: when people stop killing them
[00:18] <sean_> If I had hardy beta, do the regular updates just make it into the final version? or do I have to dist-upgrade?
[00:18] <CyberCod> OMFG  this is a mad house
[00:18] <Flannel> nibsa1242b: It's not really.
[00:18] <Flare183> Wheeler: See?
[00:18] <jroes> I don't think it's that the repos are down moreso than that people are rampaging them
[00:18] <maco> sean_: youre done
[00:18] <Saladin> No, tanath, I reverted back to FF2
[00:18] <Flannel> sean_: yeah, just regular daily updates
[00:18] <Fishscene> linkmaster03, probably in a day or 2 when things settle down
[00:18] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: Probably in a few days. In the meanwhile, I suggest downloading via BitTorrent. There are thousands of seeds, it's super fast!
[00:18] <ubuntuROX> cygoku why do you need to download it? if you were running RC and its updated, all you have to do is update your grub.
[00:18] <cwillu> nibsa1242b, network will update all the packages you have (aka, won't break things that depend on older versions)
[00:19] <sean_> maco, Flannel: Thanks. I wished it'd be more exciting but that works. :-)
[00:19] <x1250> linkmaster03: just use some mirror repos
[00:19] <Ian1> Anyone interested in helping me set up grub?
[00:19] <Dason> UNIX
[00:19] <Dason> sean yea I know. I'll eventually be with UBUNTU fully because Linux is what IT companies want to see expertise in
[00:19] <linkmaster03> Ryan, i'm just trying to get some synaptic packages =S
[00:19] <DBautell> mad_max02, you might split that one down the middle, and have two distros installed... Sort of what I'm doing, so I can try different things out
[00:19] <Saladin> But, now I have done that, because of no extensions working, all of them fail on FF2 now as well. I used apt-get to install 2.
[00:19] <ubuntuROX> really? linux is hot right now eh?
[00:19] <Dason> no waii man
[00:19] <tanath> Ian1, it should take care of itself..
[00:19] <nibsa1242b> cwillu: ok, so if I have lots of extra packages installed I should wait until the repos are back up and then upgrade?
[00:19] <Ertyle> !offtopic
[00:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:19] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: Yup, it'll be awhile until the repos aren't super-swamped.
[00:19] <gnuskoo1> Ian1: whats the prob
[00:19] <ubuntuROX> did you restart the pc Saladin ?
[00:19] <mad_max02> DBautell, I'm ok with ubuntu. I just need hdd space. I got over 2TB and its never enough.
[00:19] <cwillu> nibsa1242b, probably your best bet, yes
[00:19] <linkmaster03> jesus :(
[00:19] <sean_> I've been running Ubuntu exclusively for ~6 months today. :-)
[00:19] <dredhammer> hello i was using the beta version of hardy the last bit of upgrades to LTS came through and now i don't have nor can i enable the restricted nvidia drivers
[00:19] <maco> ubuntuROX: heck yeah!
[00:20] <DBautell> :D
[00:20] <tanath> nibsa1242b,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:20] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: You shouldn't rely on public repos if you need 100% uptime - you should set up your own mirror at some point.
[00:20] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[00:20] <Dason> way to go sean
[00:20] <kasper> hey.. anyone care to help with some nvidia problems on hardy? - ive installed driver and it worked just afterwards. Its not working after a reboot.
[00:20] <maco> ubuntuROX: best-paying sysadmin jobs are *always* for *nix and never for window
[00:20] <spork969> maco, whats the difference between nvu and kompozer?
[00:20] <Saladin> After the upgrade, or after installing FF2? Upgrade = yes. FF2 = no, ubuntuROX
[00:20] <sp219-away> Does anyone know why clipboard charing from windows to ubuntu does not work properly?
[00:20] <nibsa1242b> tanath: I've done that quite a few times, it gets stuck somewhere around 175/187
[00:20] <eduardo> how do i upgrade ubuntu from terminal?
[00:20] <MachinTrucChose> can someone tell me how to add a context menu (right-click menu) option in Nautilus so I can "open as root" or "run as root" ?
[00:20] <maco> spork969: one's the first word of the name and the other's the second?
[00:20] <Dason> has anyone tried Ubuntu Studio? is it any good yet?
[00:20] <ubuntuROX> it might be worth a try, mine just worked
[00:20] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: Technically the servers aren't down right now - it's just that they're serving tens of thousands of requests.
[00:20] <jrabbit> Donno its huuuuge dashua`_
[00:20] <jrabbit> ** Dason
[00:20] <linkmaster03> ok
[00:20] <Saladin> And I have been using Ubuntu for six months as well
[00:20] <spork969> maco, looks to me theyre two programs
[00:21] <Ian1> gnuskoo1: Well I tried (and failed I suppose) to add an XP line to my list file for grub, and when I tried to boot to it, XP's loader seems to have supplanted grub so now it just goes to that failed boot when i start my computer
[00:21] <dubby> hey anyone, I need a very stable java jre and anycase i installed sun-java6 and I need the firefox plugin
[00:21] <tanath> Saladin, nightly tester tools alters the extensions compatibility. ff2 thinks they don't work anymore. you'll prolly have to reinstall them if you want to go back..
[00:21] <ubuntuROX> I have been using it for almost a year now
[00:21] <maco> spork969: its called Nvu Kompozer
[00:21] <sp219-away> Does anyone know why clipboard charing from windows to ubuntu does not work properly?
[00:21] <Fishscene> The servers are undergoing the equivelant of DDoS attack- except it's ALL legitimate traffic. :)
[00:21] <tanath> Saladin, you shouldn't lose settings though\
[00:21] <Flannel> MachinTrucChose: install the nautilus-gksu package
[00:21] <spork969> maco, k
[00:21] <gnuskoo1> MachinTrucChose: google nautilus scripts
[00:21] <tanath> nibsa1242b, weird. WFM
[00:21] <Ian1> i know how to reinstall grub in the terminal, but i'm not sure how to tell which drive to install it to
[00:21] <MachinTrucChose> thanks flan
[00:21] <ubuntuROX> ahh,, see theres your problem
[00:21] <eduardo> Question: How do i upgrade ubuntu from the terminal?
[00:21] <cwillu> sp219-away, please give it more than 30 seconds between repeats
[00:21] <Saladin> Although... It only took me three days to know I wasn't going back to Windows
[00:21] <maco> spork969: kompozer is the latest release of nvu
[00:21] <Dason> apt-get upgrade (sud)
[00:21] <tanath> nibsa1242b, you tried letting it go for a few mins?
[00:21] <Dason> sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:21] <ubuntuROX> at least I bet its your problem,, uninstall that nightly tools extention
[00:21] <RyanPrior> Eduardo, I don't suggest doing it today.
[00:21] <ubutom> Hi guys, I have a problem with my xserver, or with the "unbreakable" xserver, I think, can someone help me?
[00:22] <Saladin> tanath, however... Nightly isn't showing up on the extensions list.
[00:22] <RyanPrior> eduardo: The servers are totally swamped.
[00:22] <spork969> maco, gotcha
[00:22] <eduardo> RyanPrior: why is that?
[00:22] <maco> !ask | ubutom
[00:22] <ubotu> ubutom: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:22] <cygoku> I thought the repos would be mirrored or something.
[00:22] <eduardo> RyanPrior: ohhh
[00:22] <ubuntuROX> go to FF3 it should be there
[00:22] <maco> eduardo: /me points at calendar
[00:22] <nibsa1242b> tanath: it just worked... doesn't seem to be a good server though... yeah earlier I let it go for about 10min the window just went blank
[00:22] <tanath> Saladin, huh... well i've never downgraded like that, so...
[00:22] <RyanPrior> cygoku: The repos are mirrored, all over the world. They are all swamped.
[00:22] <ubuntuROX> then un-install it
[00:22] <SeaPhor> Has anyone discovered if RTL8185 wlan chipset works in 8.04? please?
[00:22] <cygoku> wow
[00:22] <Dason> System > Admin > Softy Sources choose best
[00:22] <ibleed> i only have swap / and /home partitions.  what other possible partitions might i want and what might their sizes be ?
[00:22] <maco> cygoku: they are. there are hundreds of mirrors.  theyre pretty much all swamped.
[00:22] <tanath> nibsa1242b, hrm, i guess they're getting hammered worse than i thought
[00:22] <Flannel> eduardo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades has instructions
[00:22] <alienbrain> I just tried Hardy Heron Installation LiveCD feature, my network is not working. I don't see my module. Should I hope for better after installation or this aspect won't change?
[00:22] <cygoku> That's crazy you know.
[00:23] <maco> alienbrain: wired or wireless?
[00:23] <ere4si> ibleed: a partition for / is handy
[00:23] <alienbrain> maco, wireless
[00:23] <sean_> I had compiz working fine in beta, but now I upgraded and whenever I go to "normal" or "extra" I lose all window decorations. Any ideas?
[00:23] <maco> alienbrain: do you have any wired connection available?
[00:23] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Millions of Ubuntu users try to upgrade all at once; thus, we have craziness aplenty. :-)
[00:23] <alienbrain> maco, ipw3945 module
[00:23] <Ertyle> alienbrain: if it doesn't work on the live CD, then it doesn't work in the installation. out of the box, that is - it's entirely possible that you *can* get it to work!
[00:23] <alienbrain> maco, yep sure
[00:23] <ibleed> ere4si, yes i have swap, /, and /home.  i'm wondering what others are useful
[00:23] <x1250> alienbrain: it will probably won't work
[00:23] <cygoku> " millions " ????
[00:23] <cwillu> alienbrain, what chipset?
[00:23] <Dason> Now to get copywritten DVD's to work right.....
[00:23] <ubutom> Well, maco, everytime I start up ubuntu now it doesnt work, the xserver simply doesnt come up. i tried dpgk-reconfigure, I erased and replaced the xorg.conf, but no joy...
[00:23] <alienbrain> Ertyle, I see, it was working on Gutsy though, out of the box
[00:23] <maco> alienbrain: oh you have a 3945? the module is now called iwl3945. it works great for me
[00:23] <MachinTrucChose> first thing to do in every ubuntu install: disable the *!!@#$ motherboard beep
[00:23] <ere4si> ibleed: that is all really - unless it is a server
[00:23] <nibsa1242b> ibleed: /var ~4GB (or less) good for log files... you don't want to have some faulty device fill up your log files and make your system unbootable... and /boot ~500MB (should hopefully be enough)
[00:23] <x1250> alienbrain: but that doesn't mean you can't make it work...
[00:23] <sandfisch> is it possible to update the beta to full?
[00:24] <alienbrain> cwillu, Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG
[00:24] <tanath> sean_, try running 'compiz --replace' from a terminal, and see the output
[00:24] <Flannel> sandfisch: yes, just regular daily updates
[00:24] <Dason> Machin! Tell me now! I hate it!
[00:24] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Yup, supposedly Ubuntu has about 10 million users, so if more than 10% try to upgrade, that's millions.
[00:24] <Ertyle> alienbrain: then file a bug
[00:24] <sean_> sandfisch: Just do regular updates and you're all set!
[00:24] <Baughn> MachinTrucChose: I've found that an axe does that very well
[00:24] <nibsa1242b> tanath: I think I'll just wait a few days to upgrade... no rush
[00:24] <MachinTrucChose> dason: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_disable_the_pc_speaker_(beep!)
[00:24] <the_darkside_986> Everything operation in hardy is laggy and slow, and the CPU fan keeps spinning. What do I type to fix this?
[00:24] <tanath> sean_, er, make that 'compiz --replace &'
[00:24] <ibleed> nibsa1242b, what about /opt ?  is that useful ?
[00:24] <Mimi> alienbrain:  you have a problem w/ 3945? It's been fixed...
[00:24] <Ertyle> sandfisch: just let it run its normal updates, and you'll have final
[00:24] <cygoku> Well I am impressed.
[00:24] <gaucho> My audio isn't working.. It was perfectly working about 5 minutes ago on gutsy. I have an Asus p5b motherboard. What can I do?
[00:24]  * x1250 wants #ubuntu+1 back
[00:24] <tanath> nibsa1242b, thought you said it just worked?
[00:24] <alienbrain> x1250, I understand, but I'm trying to assess how much time I need to spend after upgrading :)
[00:24] <maco> RyanPrior: you only hit multiple millions when 20% try to upgrade
[00:24] <ubutom> atm i can only access the root repair console
[00:24] <tanath> nibsa1242b, meh
[00:25] <x1250> alienbrain: did it work on gutsy?
[00:25] <phiqtion> how can i install XMMS in HARDY? thx
[00:25] <cwillu> maco, as if 50% of the installed base isn't trying to upgrade though :p
[00:25] <RyanPrior> maco: I call 1.1 more than one million, thus millions. One and one tenth millions.
[00:25] <maco> crimsun: ping
[00:25] <ubutom> every attempt to start gdm fails, failsafe graphics seems to be broken
[00:25] <maco> cwillu: yeah...
[00:25] <sean_> tanath: I think I need to re-enable nvidia drivers, does that make sense?
[00:25] <alienbrain> Mimi, in Gutsy, I would see that ipw3945 module is automatically loaded. Now in Hardy, I don't see it. Even when I try to modprobe. It's not there
[00:25] <nibsa1242b> ibleed: I don't know, never needed an /opt before but I'm just running it on a few computers for personal use
[00:25] <cygoku> Danson ??
[00:25] <DBautell> even ,75 is a multiple
[00:25] <ubutom> so, what should I do? Does someone have an idea?
[00:25] <maco> alienbrain: its not called that
[00:25] <tanath> sean_, ah. in that case displayconfig-gtk may help
[00:25] <yeknom_traf> which version of ubuntu would i want to install on an iMac with duocore processor?
[00:25] <maco> alienbrain: its called iwl3945
[00:25] <cygoku> I mean Dason ??
[00:25] <maco> alienbrain: theres a new driver
[00:25] <alienbrain> maco, aha, let me check please
[00:25] <Baughn> sean_: You need to reinstall the nvidia drivers every time you upgrade your kernel. Which a distribution upgrade does. Granted, it might be automatic normally, but apparently not now..
[00:25] <Joelito> Hi, I can't use livCD of ubuntu 8.04
[00:25] <phiqtion> how can i enable UNIVERSE and MULTIVERSE in HARDY?
[00:25] <nibsa1242b> alienbrain: check restricted drivers manager to see if you have to enable it in there
[00:25] <Saladin> Now, when I click on the launcher for FF3, it is FF2 that pops up. I am totally confused.
[00:26] <Joelito> and the md5sum is correct
[00:26] <x1250> alienbrain: you can always uninstall kernel metapackages (linux-image, linux-image-generic, linux-headers-generic, etc) and use them in hardy
[00:26] <Mimi> alienbrain:  (sorry if you've already said that, but I just joined the channel) .. and this is the realease, not the release candidate or beta? I have the same card as yours, and I installed hardy from livecd.. wireless worked there, and after install it worked too :/ sorry not sure how to help, thought it was fixed for all of us
[00:26] <tanath> phiqtion, System > Admin > Software Sources
[00:26] <sean_> Baughn: Jest because it's newly released?
[00:26] <fdsjkalf> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[00:26] <RyanPrior> yeknom_traf: Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron" is the hot item now.  If I upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04: How long will it take me to do that (do I have to download a full 700MB?), is there any chance of it bjorking my system? and can I do it at any time or only today before there's newer nightly builds?
[00:26] <jjt001> where is cgi-bin located in ubuntu?
[00:26] <Mimi> /me asks :  is it possible to increase the DPI on gnome? ... I have 1200x800 but it seems like a simple window takes most of the screen :P
[00:26] <alienbrain> maco, I can see the driver is there
[00:26] <Mike_T> nv
[00:26] <maco> fdsjkalf: its a release day. how could it possibly stay up?
[00:26] <x1250> alienbrain: I meant: uninstall kernel metapackages, and upgrade to hardy. Then, as metapackages are not installed, then your kernel version will be preserved.
[00:27] <nibsa1242b> sean_: Baughn I think sometimes the necessary drivers take a few days after the dist upgrade to become available for the kernel version
[00:27] <Baughn> sean_: I don't actually know if it normally does, but if it does, then the reason it doesn't /now/ would be because it's a separate upgrade system that doesn't know about that detail
[00:27] <alienbrain> Mimi, sure, that gives me higher hopes! :)
[00:27] <phiqtion> tanath: they are selected already but i can't find XMMS in the sources?
[00:27] <sean_> tanath, oh, nevermind. I forgot that was on my laptop! It uses intel drivers which is correct. Do I need to install xgl?
[00:27] <jjt001> maco: is cgi-bin located in var/www?
[00:27] <ubutom> xserver dead, failsafe doesnt work, dpkg-reconfigure no joy, erasing xor.conf and replacing with old version no joy, any ideas?
[00:27] <cwillu> Mimi, prefrerences | appearance| fonts
[00:27] <RyanPrior> Mimi: System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[00:27] <nous> how do I start the graphic card config wizard ?
[00:27] <Baughn> nibsa1242b: That's why there's a compile-from-source option
[00:27] <maco> jjt001: *shrug* i never figured out how to make apache go on my laptop
[00:27] <nibsa1242b> Baughn: mmm fun
[00:27] <Joelito> maco: Hi, When I put the CD in the cd-rom, the cd-rom stops reading during the ubuntu banner with progressbar, but only the cd-rom light keeps on.
[00:27] <fdsjkalf> maco, you assume i know its release day. anywho, cool. new releases are great
[00:27] <alienbrain> x1250, I see, but I can only install from the CD at the moment, not very good bandwidth :)
[00:27] <Baughn> nibsa1242b: "Trivial", you mean. Normally it takes no effort at all.
[00:27] <sandfisch> is it possible to update the beta to full?
[00:27] <maco> Joelito: does it get to the menu part?
[00:27] <tanath> phiqtion, odd. they're in mine. you might try xmms2 though.
[00:27] <alienbrain> So guys, thank you a lot. I will give it a chance! :)
[00:27] <cwillu> alienbrain, then wait for a day or two :p
[00:27] <sean_> sandfisch: Just do regular updates and you're all set!
[00:28] <jjt001> maco: i'm trying to install dansguardian, and i need the cgi-bin directory?
[00:28] <tanath> sean_, no, shouldn't need xgl. i don't anyway
[00:28] <Joelito> maco: yes
[00:28] <RyanPrior> sandfisch: It is certainly possible. Regular updates will do the trick 100%.
[00:28] <Joelito> maco: I choose language and keyboard language
[00:28] <alienbrain> cwillu, nah, I will just go ahead now, can't wait :D
[00:28] <nibsa1242b> sandfisch: in the past the beta/ RCs updated automatically with the regular updates
[00:28] <maco> fdsjkalf: see the topic? and the front page of ubuntu.com (if it's up?)? and the announcement on the forum? and the mailing lists? and every ubuntu blog on the planet?
[00:28] <Dason> joelito i had that same problem
[00:28] <tanath> nous, 'gksu displayconfig-gtk'
[00:28] <bingofuel> can anyone can help me installing ubuntu with a sata disc_
[00:28] <x1250> alienbrain: I think you can upgrade using just the cd... do you have gutsy installed?
[00:28] <Dason> burn another disk at a slower speed
[00:28] <sandfisch> thanks all
[00:28] <alienbrain> x1250, yep
[00:28] <Joelito> Dason: How do you fixed it?
[00:28] <Mimi> cwillu:  Oh, I missed the "Details" button, thanks! ... Mmm.. it shows me changes on demand... yay!
[00:28] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: what is your problem?
[00:28] <phiqtion> tanath: servers are being hammered right?
[00:28] <alienbrain> maco, any idea how can I precisely tell what the problem is coming from?
[00:28] <maco> jjt001: oh.  i dont know.  itd involve apache webserver...id say ask the ubuntu christian edition people. they install it by default
[00:28] <sean_> tanath: I have a thinkpad T61 with integrated graphics. the i810 driver wasn't any better
[00:29] <IntangibleLiquid> hi, can anyone see me talking?
[00:29] <Dason> joelito -burn another disk at slower speed
[00:29] <metanil> hello
[00:29] <maco> Joelito: do a cd test
[00:29] <cwillu> x1250, alienbrain, you can update from cd, but any packages that are missing won't be updated, and may break in spectacular explosions with shock wave effect
[00:29] <Starnestommy> IntangibleLiquid: possibly
[00:29] <Ertyle> IntangibleLiquid: yes
[00:29] <fdsjkalf> maco, whether or not your assumption seems reasonable, it wasnt accurate
[00:29] <plik> IntangibleLiquid: no  ;)
[00:29] <maco> alienbrain: sudo iwlist scan
[00:29] <metanil> which is the default Them in Ubuntu 8.04???
[00:29] <maco> alienbrain: anything listed?
[00:29] <jforman> i just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 on my i386 desktop, and now when i try to move a window by alt+drag, ubuntu thinks i want to resize the window. any ideas whats causing this?
[00:29] <metanil> which is the default Theme in Ubuntu 8.04???
[00:29] <tanath> phiqtion, yes...
[00:29] <Sivik> has anyone gotten the 3d drivers to work for the ati hd 2600 for ubuntu?
[00:29] <tanath> phiqtion, but you can use a mirror
[00:29] <x1250> cwillu: hah, it might, but not the base system
[00:29] <Joelito> maco: ok
[00:29] <phiqtion> tanath: which one
[00:29] <Joelito> Dason Slower speed?
[00:29] <maco> jforman: check keybindings in compiz?
[00:29] <Dason> ewww ati Nvidia works better but I bet someone has
[00:29] <eternalis1> okay i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i iddnt have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:29] <bingofuel> nibsa124b.  i-ve installed ubuntu but when start to boot grub tell me the 21 error :S
[00:29] <SeaPhor> Has anyone tested or tried the RTL8185 wlan chipset to work in 8.04?
[00:29] <eternalis1> is there a command i can enter?
[00:30] <maco> jforman: resize might be mapped to alt
[00:30] <alienbrain> cwillu, lol
[00:30] <JPSmon> how can I loop my terminal to constantly output iwconfig ?
[00:30] <tanath> phiqtion, ,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:30] <maco> metanil: human-clearlooks, i think. i prefer human-murrine
[00:30] <IntangibleLiquid> thanks god! Partition editor says my harddisk space is unallocated :( What am I supposed to do? I'm doing booting XP and PCLinuxOS and want to swicth to Ubuntu :(
[00:30] <Dason> joelito: when you burn the disk, pick instead of maximum, 18.2 or something for write speed
[00:30] <jforman> maco: happen to know which setting thats under? i definitely remember not having this key combo set in 7.10
[00:30] <phiqtion> tanath: thank you
[00:30] <panda314> how to install 8.04 from darddisk?
[00:30] <tanath> np
[00:30] <alienbrain> maco, I got: wlan0: Failed to read scand data : Resource temporarily unavailable.
[00:30] <eternalis1> i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i iddnt have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:30] <Dason> (18.2x)
[00:30] <Sivik> ati HD 2600 + ubuntu?
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > panda314
[00:30] <fyreofchaos13> My Update Manager stops responding when I attempt to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, any idea what I could do?
[00:30] <Sivik> !ati
[00:30] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:30] <panda314> ?
[00:30] <maco> alienbrain: oh.  well um thatd be the problem. O_O
[00:31] <Dason> Solved my problem in about 5 minutes
[00:31] <Joelito> Dason: Ok, lucky I have a few cd-r to spare :p
[00:31] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b  i-ve installed ubuntu but when start to boot. grub tell me the 21 error :S
[00:31] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: fresh install? upgrade? is it on its own HD/ sharing the HD with another operating syste,?
[00:31] <ZarathustraDK> Are the repositories bogged down or something? It takes like 3 minutes wait before I connect when applying changes in synaptic
[00:31] <Dason> Good
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fyreofchaos13, servers are overwhelmed.. try again later
[00:31] <Sivik> ZarathustraDK: yes
[00:31] <Starnestommy> ZarathustraDK: yes
[00:31] <maco> ZarathustraDK: release day. yes. very very nearly dead
[00:31] <joh6nn> does anyone know how to make screen behave more like xterm, with regards to termcap/terminfo stuff?  when i use vim inside of screen, i occasionally get some weird behaviour
[00:31] <tanath> fyreofchaos13, at what point?
[00:31] <Fishscene> ZarathustraDK, please see the channel topic
[00:31] <Baughn> ZarathustraDK: Mm. Yes. There are about a million people trying the same.
[00:31] <plik> eternalis1: tried: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade  ?
[00:31] <Baughn> ZarathustraDK: Literally, so..
[00:31] <JPSmon> how can I loop my terminal to constantly output iwconfig ?
[00:31] <alienbrain> maco, literally? so maybe I could try to restart?
[00:31] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b fresh install, and it-s windows over sda1, the first partition
[00:31] <ZarathustraDK> haha, and here I thought it was hardy's fault :)
[00:31] <Starnestommy> JPSmon: how often do you want it to repeat?
[00:31] <Dason> Zara - System - Admin - Software sources > select best server
[00:31] <fyreofchaos13> Hrm, alright, Jack.
[00:31] <maco> alienbrain: thats a freaky error.  google it?
[00:31] <tanath> fyreofchaos13, the servers are being hammered. you might try a mirror...
[00:31] <eternalis1> plik: didnt work
[00:31] <cwillu> ZarathustraDK, well, it is, in a sense
[00:32] <alienbrain> maco, sudo lshw is taking forever to come up with anything.
[00:32] <alienbrain> maco, ah, good idea :P
[00:32] <anonusr> if I update to 8.04 using the alternate cd, and my system can't access the servers because they are overloaded, does that mean that all my packages that were in universe or multiverse will stop working until the server becomes available again?
[00:32]  * plik shrugs
[00:32] <Joelito> brb, going to work with it
[00:32] <tanath> fyreofchaos13,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:32] <Joelito> thanks
[00:32] <JPSmon> Starnestommy: as often as possible without bogging my system up
[00:32] <cwillu> anonusr, they won't update, so they may or may not work
[00:32] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:32] <maco> anonusr: ones that dont need to update will be fine...others will probably still work and lack new features
[00:32] <sean_> Ubuntu should work on automatic update file sharing or something. Like automatic torrents or something
[00:32] <JPSmon> Starnestommy: say 10 times a second
[00:32] <nomopofomo> How can I delete saved passwords that keyring saves?
[00:32] <simonft2> I know that it is a really newb question, but where is the equivilant of program files on ubuntu?
[00:32] <maco> sean_: thatd be nice
[00:32] <eternalis1> i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i didn't have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:32] <Starnestommy> JPSmon: while true; do iwconfig; done
[00:32] <Baughn> sean_: No real need, for something that happens twice a year
[00:33] <IntangibleLiquid> anyone helps me with partitioning?
[00:33] <cwillu> sean_, apt-torrent is in the universe, I think they're working on integrating it
[00:33] <tanath> sean_, security is an issue though
[00:33] <x1250> simonft2: nope.
[00:33]  * hmuller thanks the nameless linux-image dev that included the full suite of busybox tools in the initramfs
[00:33] <simonft2> ??
[00:33] <goat|work> hmm,  I wonder why the hardy update manager will not check the CD before requesting files from the repos... I have the CD option set in the software sources, and inserted...  anyone know if this is a known issue?
[00:33] <anonusr> thanks cwillu, maco
[00:33] <Starnestommy> simonft2: /usr
[00:33] <joh6nn> simonft2: what are you trying to do?
[00:33] <maco> nomopofomo: apps -> accs -> pass and encrypt keys
[00:33] <JPSmon> simonft2: lib
[00:33] <sean_> simonft2: Preferences > Main Menu then add Control Panel and use that
[00:33] <simonft2> lol
[00:33] <Baughn> tanath: Why? They're hashed, and presumably the actual torrents would be stored centrally
[00:33] <simonft2> 3 different answers
[00:33] <maco> goat|work: disable the internet repos
[00:33] <simonft2> im tring to make a program come up on start up
[00:33] <cwillu> tanath, security, not so much, more that bit-torrent doesn't have a good way to update parts of torrents
[00:33] <goat|work> maco, in gutsy's software sources?
[00:33] <Roxer> i have to say i freaking love Ubuntu, im totaly new to ubuntu. Tho i have used gentoo for 8 years
[00:33] <sean_> True on all accounts. It'd be a great feature if they figured out how to do it securely.
[00:34] <RyanPrior> simonft2: Use the sessions, probably.
[00:34] <yeknom_traf> if i dl ubuntu 8.04 for my iMac with a duocore processor, should i click on the x86 architecture or the 64bit?
[00:34] <maco> goat|work: yeah
[00:34] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:34] <simonft2> I know
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup > simplexio
[00:34] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: can you get into windows at all or is your computer in a basically useless state?
[00:34]  * [T]-Rex loves ubuntu
[00:34] <goat|work> maco, i'll try that
[00:34] <simonft2> but I have to find the command
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup > simonft2
[00:34] <eternalis1> i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i didn't have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:34] <bingofuel> are in useless satte
[00:34] <Roxer> But it was really neat to install (only prob was errno 5 no probs tho)
[00:34] <Dason> Users who wish to download Ubuntu 8.04! go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:34] <bingofuel> the menu of grub doesn-t appear
[00:34] <grindhold> simonft2 forget that on linux ;) you think it's similar to windows
[00:34] <talntidwrk> is archive.ubuntu.com dead? :(
[00:34] <cwillu> eternalis1, please wait more than 30 seconds between attempts
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: sudo update-manager -c
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: i mean
[00:34] <Starnestommy> talntidwrk: it's very overloaded
[00:34] <nomopofomo> maco, thank you!
[00:34] <Ertyle> talntidwrk: type /topic
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: gksu "update-manager c"
[00:34] <Baughn> tanath: Nah. There's just a queue. Of a hundred thousand computers.
[00:34] <simonft2> lol
[00:34] <nickrober> I just upgraded to 8.04 from 7.10 using the Update Manager. Now all sounds are scratchy and distorted. Is it something to do with the new Pulse Audio?
[00:34] <simonft2> ok
[00:34] <Cpudan80> Where is the screens and gfx thing in Hardy ?
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: still cant type
[00:34] <cwillu> !motd
[00:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <hmuller> Roxer: There are a few ex-gentoo users about
[00:34] <Sivik> Someone needs to put that all repositores are slow
[00:34] <RyanPrior> talntidwrk: Today is release day, so the servers and mirrors are super swamped.
[00:34] <Baughn> * talntidwrk
[00:34] <Dason> go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: put a - before the c in the one with quotes
[00:34] <joh6nn> does anyone know how to make screen behave more like xterm, with regards to termcap/terminfo stuff?  when i use vim inside of screen, i occasionally get some weird behaviour
[00:35] <Roxer> Anyone have some cool way to play .img movies?
[00:35] <tanath> cwillu, yeah, that too. would need a modification of BT
[00:35] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:35] <alienbrain> maco, I'm getting other freaky stuff in dmesg :). iwl3945: Microcode SW error detected. Resarting 0x82000008. And Another line.
[00:35] <talntidwrk> I knew today was release day, didn't know it was hosted on archive.*
[00:35] <RyanPrior> Sivik: It's in the channel topic!
[00:35] <alienbrain> Googling :)
[00:35] <maco> Cpudan80: hiding
[00:35] <plik> Sivik: it's in the topic
[00:35] <grindhold> simonft2 you can actually realize autostart programs on linux, but thats not as easy as in windows.. you have to scriüt
[00:35] <maco> Cpudan80: and totally useless anyway
[00:35] <grindhold> *script
[00:35] <Sivik> oh, so people just do not read
[00:35] <sarkie> Is there a way to upgrade 7.10 -> 8.04 using the CD?
[00:35] <maco> Cpudan80: screen resolution is in preferences
[00:35] <nomopofomo> maco, how would I change "allow always" to something else?
[00:35] <talntidwrk> /topic
[00:35] <Dason> I didn't even realize it was release day
[00:35] <cwillu> tanath, look at debtorrent
[00:35] <plik> same old story
[00:35] <DBautell> sarkie, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. To mount the ISO you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[00:35] <RyanPrior> Sivik: Of course not. That's why we're here. :-)
[00:35] <MachinTrucChose> hey guys, I installed nautilus-gksu but I still don't have the option to "open as <user>" in the nautilus context menu
[00:35] <Sivik> RyanPrior: do you know anything about the hd 2600 ati drives for ubuntu?
[00:36] <sarkie> DBautell, Damn it, just downloaded the normal release!! :) meh
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> sarkie, only the alternate cd
[00:36] <RyanPrior> Sivik: No clue. I use whatever drive the Driver Manager installs. :-)
[00:36] <DBautell> sarkie :D
[00:36] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b  no, i can-t use the PC, the menu of grub doesn-t appear
[00:36] <talntidwrk> damn. i'm fraid to reboot now.
[00:36] <eternal_p> MachinTrucChose: try doing a ctrl-alt-backspace to re-load gnome and try again
[00:36] <altj> Re: swamped servers; is there a way people can become a temporary mirrors to help out w/some of these high-traffic days?
[00:36] <fyreofchaos13> Yay, the server worked. Thank you! :D
[00:36] <sarkie> ah well, are the servers still overloaded?
[00:36] <maco> nomopofomo: choose "allow once"?
[00:36] <MachinTrucChose> eternal: I logged out then logged back on
[00:36] <tanath> cwillu, cool...
[00:36] <Sivik> RyanPrior: its so much easier just to use nvidia because of their support
[00:36] <simonft2> how would I make pidgin come up on startup?
[00:36] <JPSmon> Starnestommy: can I have it "press enter" a few time to get it to say in one spot?
[00:36] <jrabbit> sarkie: do bears shit in the forest?
[00:36] <goat|work> sarkie: for me yes
[00:36] <Sivik> sarkie: yes, its realese date
[00:36] <RyanPrior> altj: Yup, BitTorrent!
[00:36] <Abd> lol not even 1kb transfer speed
[00:36] <Dason> go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:37] <Sivik> Abd: Release date, all repos are slow
[00:37] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: try sudo xsane
[00:37] <Fishscene> abd, on bittorrent?
[00:37] <Starnestommy> JPSmon: while read; do iwconfig; donw
[00:37] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: ok, obviously something went wrong with the installer configuring grub... it happens and is highly annoying. I can help you get XP back to a bootable state, however, I'm not enough of a grub wizard to guide you how to fix the problem and allow you to boot into XP or Ubuntu.
[00:37] <RyanPrior> altj: If Ubuntu switched to using Apt-Torrent by default I think things would be much better, but that's a different argument. :-)
[00:37] <Starnestommy> *done
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> simonft2, Did you see the link ubotu provided about startup
[00:37] <metanil> my touchpad is not working properly ( it clicks even if i am just moving around cursor) ... ubuntu 8.04 laptop -> VAIO.
[00:37] <sarkie> Indeed, I'll just download the alternate CD and do it tomorrow off line ! ah well
[00:37] <simonft2> yes
[00:37] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: that does the same thing
[00:37] <tanath> eternal_p, jeeze, is no one careful with that? better to suggest a logout. if you do that with unsaved work, it's just gone :-/
[00:37] <simonft2> oh
[00:37] <maco> nomopofomo: theres a keyring preferences thing in sys->pref too
[00:37] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: k, hold on
[00:37] <simonft2> lol did't read far enough
[00:37] <simonft2> sorry
[00:37] <Dason> metam give them a week for the IRC to calm down a little (if at all)
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:37] <eternal_p> tanath: true :)
[00:38] <phiqtion> tanath: i just installed XMMS2 on hardy but it doesn't show up in the MENU.
[00:38] <biabia> my tomboy notes wont open. i did a find / -iname tomboy and searched through the folders for any files that looked like they could be the ones i need but i couldnt find them
[00:38] <alienbrain> maco, Most probably: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=461924
[00:38] <tanath> phiqtion, well, alt+f2 & run it
[00:38] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b i was thinking if i can-t install correctly grub, i going to reinstall windows xp, to recover one OS at lesat
[00:38] <maco> biabia: they shouldbe in .tomboy
[00:38] <grindhold> pulse audio sucks.. even rhythmbox doesn't work . anyone who fixed the problem?
[00:38] <Dason> Quick question, do we need to reinstall WINE when we reboot?
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> phiqtion, is xmm2 from our repos?
[00:38] <jords> omg is it just me or is archive.ubuntu.com completely hamered?
[00:38] <tanath> phiqtion, menu editor should see it, and let you put it there
[00:38] <jroes> does anyone know where I can find download statistics?
[00:38] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: try "mv ~/.sane ~/.sane-old", and then running xsane ?
[00:38] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: I can attempt to play grub wizard if you'd like... I just can't guarantee I can fix it.
[00:38] <phiqtion> Jack_Sparrow: yeap
[00:38] <Dason> jords: go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:38] <jroes> like how many people downloaded ubuntu 7.10, 6.10, etc.
[00:39] <Cpudan80> jords: yes
[00:39] <plik> jords: everythings hammered
[00:39] <Cpudan80> jords: its tanked
[00:39] <biabia> maco thanks I'll look there. that one didnt come up in my search
[00:39] <tanath> jords,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:39] <jords> Dason: How do you do that on ubuntu server?
[00:39] <stoked> how do I change the pagesize to use larger than 4k block sizes in XFS?
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> phiqtion, cool, I didnt know it was there.. try running from cli and make sure it comes up
[00:39] <tanath> heh
[00:39] <jords> My desktops been on 8.04 for ages
[00:39] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: same thing
[00:39] <Dason> Oooh I only know Desktop
[00:39] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: you don't have to reinstall XP; all you need is a win XP install disk, from the recovery console you can fix the MBR and you'll be ok
[00:39] <talntidwrk> tanath, can you tell me how to do that from command line?
[00:39] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b what is grub wizard_
[00:39] <tanath> jords, it's in synaptic
[00:39] <rich_freecomm> "Fecthing file 1 of 1292" :D
[00:39] <phiqtion> Jack_Sparrow: how do i run CLI
[00:39] <maco> alienbrain: i give up. my laptop is magic.
[00:39] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: someone who knows lots about grub
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> phiqtion, cli means a terminal
[00:39] <talntidwrk> I kinda killed my window manager and uninstalled it, thinking i could get another one from apt... :P
[00:40] <|stefan|> just upgraded to hardy. and all of a sudden when i log in with ssh i get posix instead of utf-8
[00:40] <Dason> Nice
[00:40] <tanath> talntidwrk, uh, there's an apt command for it, but i forget what it is... hold on
[00:40] <alienbrain> maco, thanks for the heads up :)
[00:40] <|stefan|> anyone can explain this ?
[00:40] <biabia> xfce is my favorite window manager
[00:40] <phiqtion> Jack_Sparrow: i typed xmms2 and just some commands popped up
[00:40] <OzFalcon> Will the new hardy install let me resize my fedora partition for dual boot?
[00:40] <Dason> Is a reinstallation of WINE required after upgrade?
[00:40] <talntidwrk> Dason, not if you don't want to run Windows apps ;)
[00:40] <Dason> Lol
[00:40] <rich_freecomm> "About 22 hours 33 minutes remaining" awesome
[00:41] <talntidwrk> but, i don't know ;)
[00:41] <Dason> It's more for the unpacking of them
[00:41] <x1250> Dason: it shouldn't be necessary
[00:41] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: same thing
[00:41] <DEstlund> I'm having trouble installing Heron - had the same problem with the betas: it complains that every file does not match the one on the disk. My cd burner works fine with everything else, so do my hard drives. Anybody seen this?
[00:41] <Dason> For use in Windows
[00:41] <burner> OzFalcon: i assume it depends on the fedora partition type
[00:41] <x1250> doesn't work for you Dason?
[00:41] <jPratt> lol Well you knoe most things that are made are for Windows and well i like my Photoshop :P
[00:41] <Datalanche> Hi. I just tried to do a fresh install of Hardy on my computer. I have two drives and two optical drives on my motherboards IDE controller, and three more hard drives on my Silicon Image-based PCI-IDE card. It is detecting the Sil-card's drive first(hda, hdb, and hdc). After the install, all I get is a screen full of "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB ..." What can I do to fix this?
[00:41] <Dason> Crystal xp
[00:41] <bingofuel> je i was playing like a grub wizard but my magic is bad :p,
[00:41] <bingofuel> tell me your idea...if doesn-t work no problem
[00:41] <OzFalcon> burner, ext3
[00:41] <Dason> killled my dlls and I lost mah windows Cd
[00:41] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: yep, looking to see what else i can turn up
[00:41] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: cool thanks
[00:42] <altj> damn, I've been seeding kubuntu images all day and just started seeding ubuntu images.  There's a bit of a difference in demand :-)
[00:42] <OzFalcon> Can hardy resize ext3 partitions?
[00:42] <maco> Datalanche: did the install complete?
[00:42] <Dason> SOOOOO... I can't install anything without opening in WINE and moving to Windows
[00:42] <Fishscene> lol altj
[00:42] <Datalanche> maco: Yes, finished fine and I clicked restart.
[00:42] <jPratt> Course we all know regular Ubuntu=Pwnage given by the Linux Gods
[00:42] <ng0n> o.. i got your notes here.. .sorry.
[00:42] <sven_oostenbrink> What exactly is the difference between 64 bits ubuntu and 32 (ignoring the obvious)? is 64 bits faster? could it cause problems with compatibility? will all (32 bits) programs work without problem on 64 bits?
[00:42] <sean_> tanath: I have integrated intel graphics and compiz isn't working. I'm using the "intel" driver. Any ideas?
[00:42] <Datalanche> maco: In Gutsy, my onboard IDE drives were hda and hdb. Now they are all sdX
[00:42] <dmg46664> I have downloaded the hardy CD for safe keeping in case of new installations, but I want to merge the packages on it with our local apt-cache, so local machines can all upgrade without all downloading 9 hours worth of packages each. Where can I find docs on how to do that?
[00:42] <FrankH> hi. what is the new package name for vim-full?
[00:42] <ryanpg> yay! Hardy Heron! Boo! my canon camera still doesn't automount - anyone have tips on getting this feature back? It was in the early betas...
[00:43] <derspankster> installed Hardy Server on a box I put together and I am totally lost
[00:43] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: you on gutsy or hardy?
[00:43] <Datalanche> whereas before just the ones on the sil card were sdX
[00:43] <maco> Datalanche: thats normal.thats a libata change
[00:43] <Dason> (shell32 was moved with some UI in Windows modifications)
[00:43] <erat123> ubuntu 8.04 comes w/ a browser in beta?!!?  what's the deal???
[00:43] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: gutsy
[00:43] <tanath> sean_, did you use displayconfig-gtk to try different drivers?
[00:43] <maco> Datalanche: are any of the drives reporting themselves wrong to the bios?
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd > dmg46664
[00:43] <biabia> maco yay ! the notes are there. thanks
[00:43] <maco> Datalanche: i know there are issues with sata drives that tell the bios to pretende they're IDE
[00:43] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: I tink I might have something for you to help... hold on a min
[00:43] <x1250> erat123: firefox3 should be there
[00:43] <sean_> tanath, unfortunately. :-\ I also checked my graphics card and it says intel should be the one
[00:43] <Mike_T> HowTO : Get better than 800x600 in vn 5700 using live cd - no xorg options on boot?
[00:43] <tanath> sean_, test different drivers and after each working one, run 'glxinfo | grep -i direct' to see if direct rendering is enabled
[00:43] <Datalanche> maco: Nope, I watched them all pop up, they seem to be going in just fine. Oh, and also, they are IDE drives, not SATA
[00:43] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b ok
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> maco, I am running on sata pretending to be ide here
[00:44] <tanath> sean_, i dunno. might try google & ubuntu forums
[00:44] <zado> firefox 3 beta 5 is good enough for release
[00:44] <ng0n> is the new Ver out.  I got Gusty
[00:44] <jPratt> Yes it is
[00:44] <maco> Datalanche: theyre *all* IDE? all more than 5?
[00:44] <Dason> Mike T restricted drivers in System > admin
[00:44] <sean_> tanath: is there any way to add displayconfig-gtk to my main menu? It used to be in admin
[00:44] <erat123> x1250: god i hope i didnt get the wrong version...
[00:44] <eternalis1> maco i got some error
[00:44] <fdsjkalf> is it true that ff3 uses an ugly bold font for the URL
[00:44] <ng0n> hmmm. ok.
[00:44] <Datalanche> maco: Yes, I have five IDE hard drives.
[00:44] <eternalis1> maco: it says i have to check my internet connection, but im connected so wtf?
[00:44] <tom_> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[00:44] <jPratt> ng0n yes hardy is out
[00:44] <Dason> wow, there's the background update!
[00:44] <fdsjkalf> thats reason enough to not use it
[00:44] <rich_freecomm> Greetings Scunizi
[00:44] <erat123> so, does firefox beta come w/ hardy or the finished release?
[00:44] <maco> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is when you have lots of IDE and it gets confusing when the OS sees lots of IDE due to that bios setting
[00:44] <tanath> sean_, menu editor?
[00:44] <nibsa1242b> sven_oostenbrink: I highly recommend 32 bit. Not everything works out of the box with 64 bit that does with 32 bit. And there should be 5% or less performance difference between the two unless you are running a machine with >4GB of RAM.
[00:44] <ng0n> Hardy.   I'm blind. :)
[00:45] <tanath> XD
[00:45] <maco> Datalanche: its a bug
[00:45] <Datalanche> maco: Uh, yeah I can. I have two connect on the motherboard's IDE controller, and three on a PCI expansion card.
[00:45] <OzFalcon> erat123, Beta5, But you can download prev stable release if you want.
[00:45] <Datalanche> oh, really
[00:45] <ng0n> flash, sass and white trash : welcome to #ubuntu !
[00:45] <x1250> ff3 is ok, but it doesn't use pulseaudio. That feature was pushed to ibex, instead.
[00:45] <DEstlund> anybody seen persistent CRC errors on hardy install from cd?
[00:45] <goat|work> Jack_Sparrow: was banned?
[00:45] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b you-re saying that i have to install the 32 bits version_
[00:45] <erat123> that's too bad.    when i go to ubuntuguides.org, my X session logs off under firefox beta5....   i might have to downgrade firefox
[00:45] <maco> Datalanche: on ubuntu, 5 IDEs just cant go
[00:45] <Mike_T> Dason: None listed...:-(
[00:45] <goat|work> sorry, nvm
[00:45] <Datalanche> maco: It was working just fine in Gutsy
[00:45] <erat123> i sent in a bug report, but didnt hear back
[00:45] <Dason> hmm...
[00:45] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: check and see if there's an update available for libgtk2; a couple of people reported that as fixing the problem for them
[00:46] <joh6nn> does anyone know how to make screen behave more like xterm, with regards to termcap/terminfo stuff?  when i use vim inside of screen, i occasionally get some weird behaviour
[00:46] <IntangibleLiquid> fdsik -l /dev/sda says cannott open /dev/sda: what should I do?
[00:46] <maco> Datalanche: regression....its a known bug on hardy though
[00:46] <tanath> talntidwrk, found it: netselect-apt
[00:46] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: that was for someone else... there is nothing wrong with 64 bit version, however, most people I know and myself prefer the 32 bit version for ease of use
[00:46] <Dason> intang - Are you using Sudo?
[00:46] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: libgtk2 is the name on repos?
[00:46] <OzFalcon> Too much noise....
[00:46] <ng0n> 64 bit.  drivers ?
[00:46] <Datalanche> I don't understand.
[00:46] <Datalanche> it was never a problem before
[00:46] <jvai_> no straight upgrade from dapper to hardy in 09'?
[00:47] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: anyhow... http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ should help you boot
[00:47]  * DBautell has no problem with 64
[00:47] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: not sure, the posts don't say for sure
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> jvai_: you should be able to go from Dapper to Hardy
[00:47] <Dason> IntangibleLiquid are you using sudo fdisk ?
[00:47] <ng0n> i'm too nube to 64
[00:47] <capo> so the repo's are all still down?
[00:47] <tanath> gah, aptitude wants to autoremove all my xmm2 plugins. why?!
[00:47] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: thanks i found it, installing now
[00:47] <IntangibleLiquid> Dason: no, but thanks, it shows the partitions
[00:47] <jvai_> aaw "CLAPPIN"...  ty IndyGunFreak
[00:47] <Jorophose> IndyGunFreak: Would you just follow the same procedure then? (update-manager -d)
[00:47] <phiqtion> XMMS2 has no GUI? is there a starter guide for HARDY?
[00:47] <Gman99999> has the downloading of the upgrade stopped for anyone else?  is the server possibly down?
[00:48] <tanath> phiqtion, audacious is very similar to xmms
[00:48] <capo> yeah i think the repo's are down
[00:48] <DBautell> the only thing I remember having to fiddle with was getting the 32 bit firefox
[00:48] <IndyGunFreak> jvai_: Jorophose i never done it, but i'm almost 100% certain, you can go from 1 LTS version, to another LTS version, w/o loading up the versions in between
[00:48] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: you'll need to download the CDROM or USB version
[00:48] <capo> i can't download any packages
[00:48] <Gman99999> ah wait here we go
[00:48] <x1250> Gman99999: just pick a mirror
[00:48] <joh6nn> Gman99999: the repos are choked
[00:48] <IntangibleLiquid> Dason: the sad thing is, Partition Editor says my current harddisk space is unallocated
[00:48] <DBautell> for flash, etc
[00:48] <blbrown> im back, I got the 8.04 iso CD download, but I dont see any cdromupgrade.  is there somewhere I should look for that
[00:48] <tanath> capo, there's plenty of mirrors
[00:48] <ng0n> my Vista found out i was doing Ubuntu and I swear, it has straighted up a little.  is that possible ?
[00:48] <Dason> Gman999999                          System - Admin Softy Sources - Alternative sources - scan for best
[00:48] <maco> Datalanche: and in hardy it is a problem.  things changed and it got broken.  thats all there is to it
[00:48] <jvai_> IndyGunFreak,  it should hold reason from one LTS to another.. right?
[00:48] <rich_freecomm> mine is still puttin away.....of course it says I have about 48 days left
[00:49] <dmg46664> Jack Sparrow: Thanx for the link to aptoncd... however I think what I was looking for was apt-cache-import
[00:49] <maco> Datalanche: hopefully itll be fixed by 8.04.1 in june, but maybe it wont
[00:49] <Jorophose> IndyGunFreak: What are the odds of it going bang in my face?
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> jvai_: one would think.. google it though, i'm almost 100% SURE OF IT.
[00:49] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: they are the latest versions
[00:49] <jvai_> 'k
[00:49] <Dason> IntangibleLiquid I suggest using an external disk drive editor then
[00:49] <joh6nn> ng0n: yeah, but if that's what it takes to make Vista behave, is it worth keeping around?
[00:49] <sven_oostenbrink> nibsa1242b> 64bits is slower?
[00:49] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: ; (
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> Jorophose: don't really know, never done it.... try googling it... i install every 6mo
[00:49] <nibsa1242b> sven_oostenbrink:  DBautell: yes, Firefox and extensions and Wine are the two main things that I find are easier to use in 32bit... one can always run the 32bit version on a 64 bit system but it takes time
[00:49] <Dason> Such as GParted
[00:49] <tanath> Jorophose, follow the guide in the topic and  you should be good
[00:50] <nibsa1242b> sven_oostenbrink: I think 64bit is marginally faster... but it depends
[00:50] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: did this used to work and suddenly broke, or did it never work?
[00:50] <thedonvaughn> ng0n: yah it's a feature.  If you install a linux kernel greater than 2.6.24, vista knows and it tweaks it's parameters (tm)]
[00:50] <hansin> ng0n: Yeah, I head there is a bit of code in Vista that detects if you are dool-booting Linux, and if so it runs better.  I guess MS must have figured if your dual boot Linux, that Vista better shape up in case you might make the full switch.
[00:50] <Datalanche> hmmmm
[00:50] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: it worked yesterday
[00:50] <Mike_T> hansin: lol
[00:50] <pifedo> Hi! My sound isn't working.. I have an Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02), but alsa can't find any sound card. What can I do?
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> dmg46664, several options available
[00:50] <Datalanche> Well then, I dunno what to do if I can't use Hardy on my computer.
[00:50] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: so what'd you do to break it between now and then? : )
[00:50] <Light|DC> t/hop
[00:50] <ng0n> hansin: I knew it !@!
[00:51] <Gman99999> is wine even a viable method for installing popular windows aps I sure hear alot of people preaching how much better linux is than windows but Ive had so much trouble with simple hardware drivers that pissed me off alot, what makes linux so good?
[00:51] <jwwadk> hello all. this may sound like a noobish problem: my screen brightness options have disappeared
[00:51] <unop> joh6nn, you might need 'altscreen on'
[00:51] <blbrown> sh: Can't open /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade ... wtf
[00:51] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: nothing xD
[00:51] <tanath> pifedo, hardy uses pulseaudio now...
[00:51] <eternal_p> Gman99999: go to www.winehq.com and look for the app in question
[00:51] <Dason> Gman, to be king, yes
[00:51] <pifedo> tanath: So, What can I do? My sound isn't working any way...
[00:51] <hansin> ng0n:
[00:51] <joh6nn> unop: just throw 'altscreen on' in my .screenrc ?
[00:51] <maco> Datalanche: stick to gutsy
[00:51] <ng0n> hah
[00:51] <Myke516> Hey everyone
[00:51] <tanath> hansin, o.O have a source for that?
[00:51] <Dason> How can we help
[00:51] <Datalanche> Too late
[00:51] <Datalanche> I just wiped it
[00:52] <Gman99999> are there lots of bugs still in hardy heron?
[00:52] <jPratt> whats LTS stand for
[00:52] <Datalanche> heh
[00:52] <thedonvaughn> Gman99999: it's not made for easy plug-n-play.. even tho ubuntu tries that.  Sometimes you gotta manually install or setup a driver if that company who makes that piece of hardware doesn't give a linux driver for free and or hardware calls to developers to include in kernel.
[00:52] <DBautell> nibsa1242b, sven_oostenbrink, I seem to remember the BOINC people saying the speed difference is negligible, and even sometimes negative. Never occured to me that that might be part of my wine diffculties
[00:52] <SeaPhor> Gman99999, you can send me a tell and if i know i'll discuss it with you
[00:52] <Dason> Long Term Service
[00:52] <fdsjkalf> im going to try hardy today, i may even continue to use it
[00:52] <unop> joh6nn, aye, yes .. but i'm just stabbing in the dark - what exactly is vim doing in screen?
[00:52] <FrankH> what is the new package name for vim-full?
[00:52] <hansin> ng0n: I was just kidding with you.  I highly suspect it is not related, at least not intentionally so.  But that would be funny.
[00:52] <pifedo> Gman99999: Oh yes! A LOT OF!
[00:52] <tanath> pifedo, you could make sure you have all the pulseaudio stuff you need, and remove the alsa & other stuff
[00:52] <jwwadk> does anyone know how to manually change screen-brightness?
[00:52] <phiqtion> does anyone know how to run XMMS2 on hardy?
[00:52] <tanath> pifedo, seems to have worked for me
[00:52] <ng0n> hansin: ya, i get it.
[00:52] <lewench> !upgrade
[00:52] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:52] <ng0n> hey.. it was FUNNY
[00:52] <Dason> Screen Brightness is a Monitor setting
[00:52] <unop> phiqtion, xmms has been replaced by audacious
[00:52] <tanath> jPratt, long term support
[00:52] <fdsjkalf> i found a mirror thats serving hardy to me at 1150+ KBps
[00:52] <hansin> tanath: Yeah, isdualbootlinux?.dll.
[00:52] <nibsa1242b> Gman99999: I only use WINE to visit sites in IE that refuse to work with firefox, opera, or Konq. And that doesn't always work so well so I revert to kqemu.
[00:52] <jPratt> kk thx
[00:52] <fluidd> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[00:52] <pifedo> tanath: I'm on a live session.. I just started the CD image I downloaded today..
[00:52] <hansin> Oh, you wanted source...
[00:52] <rich_freecomm> 1288 files of upgrade to dl, 1288 files of upgrade, finish one up, save it to drive, 1287 files of upgrade to dl
[00:53] <phiqtion> unop: is audacious in the repos?
[00:53] <Myke516> i have hardy but i am having trouble updating packages
[00:53] <tanath> hansin, heh
[00:53] <phiqtion> !audacious
[00:53] <ubotu> audacious is included in !Feisty. A !repository also exists for !Edgy: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[00:53] <eternal_p> nibsa1242b: Office 2003 via Crossover (wine) is perfect
[00:53] <Gman99999> interesting
[00:53] <jwwadk> Dason: right, but the power management options to change it have disappeared
[00:53] <McJester82> does anyone know the horiz and VertSync for the PowerPC G4
[00:53] <fdsjkalf> aww. its slowing down now
[00:53] <Dason> Just compile your own Upgrade!
[00:53] <Gman99999> I have skype but it sure sucks with linux
[00:53] <nibsa1242b> DBautell: sven_oostenbrink to the best of my knowledge, there is no 64 bit version of wine because it is attempting to emulate a 32bit OS
[00:53] <unop> phiqtion, sorry, you said xmms2 .. you might need an xmms gui -- but audacious is available yes
[00:53] <tanath> phiqtion, it is
[00:53] <Dason> lol jk
[00:53] <x1250> Gman99999: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[00:53] <Wyleyrabbit> anyone have any tips on getting my extra mouse buttons to do what they're supposed to? (I have a left-thumb button that should hit back button in browser, etc.)
[00:53] <jPratt> Can you do office 07 with Wine?
[00:53] <eternal_p> Gman99999: skype works fine for me, just google metabunut repositories
[00:53] <ng0n> ya.. skype is not so good in linux..
[00:53] <Dason> jwwadk let me look into this
[00:53] <tanath> !mouse
[00:53] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[00:53] <jwwadk> thanks
[00:53] <nibsa1242b> Wyleyrabbit: what mouse do you have?
[00:54] <tanath> Wyleyrabbit, ^
[00:54] <ng0n> which i don't understand as it's a ROBUST program, by and large.
[00:54] <Gman99999> I cant even call out with skype on ubuntu
[00:54] <Datalanche> maco: I still think this is a grub and/or devmapping issue. I had this problem once before in Edgy or whenever they changed up the ATA a while back, and fixed it by installing Ubuntu on a drive on the PCI controller and it worked flawlessly. I guess I'll just have to scramble my drives and do it that way again... annoying as it is. >_>
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > jPratt
[00:54] <crimsun> maco: pong
[00:54] <Gman99999> it will only do pc to pc calls
[00:54] <jPratt> !appdb
[00:54] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[00:54] <DBautell> nibsa1242b, you've given me new hope
[00:54] <rich_freecomm> Gman99999: yeah, a friend of mine on Winblows was having a hard time trying to tell me how to start video
[00:54] <phiqtion> how can i get audacious? its not in the package mananger
[00:54] <joh6nn> unop: i occasionally get some odd screen artifacts, with vim (and other apps that do their own special thing with the term, like top), and when i end them, the term doesn't "page", for lack of a better term, like i'm used to; it leaves all the stuff from vim or top or what-have-you on the screen, and just starts a new line
[00:54] <jvai_> i use gizmo works better
[00:54] <Wyleyrabbit> nibsa1242b: I have a logitech laser mouse. note sure particular part #
[00:54] <phiqtion> n/m found it
[00:54] <tanath> !mouse > Wyleyrabbit
[00:54] <ng0n> ATA upgrade did good stuff for my Gigabyte board.
[00:54] <eternal_p> Gman99999: what error does it give you when you try?
[00:54] <Gman99999> no error just no sound
[00:55] <Dason> jwwadk What version are you using again, and where do you find YOUR brightness settings?
[00:55] <Wyleyrabbit> thanks tanath
[00:55] <jPratt> w00t CSS!
[00:55] <tanath> np
[00:55] <DEstlund> (sorry for the repeat) hardy keeps barfing during install saying files don't match - I take it I should re-download gutsy, burn and install it, and upgrade to hardy from within?  Why firefox BETA!? NOthing works!!  My audio doesn't work! I lost my time!
[00:55] <unop> joh6nn, i know what you mean, the contents of vim,top,etc stay on .. altscreen on ought to sort that
[00:55] <x1250> pifedo: it works for me
[00:55] <joh6nn> unop: thanks, i'll give that a shot. : )
[00:55] <DEstlund> I've burned four coasters, but all of them pass the disk check and contain valid data
[00:55] <nomopofomo> Why don't my NTFS automount settings in my fstab file work any longer?
[00:55] <nibsa1242b> DBautell: I think you can run it in a 32bit chroot. (I used to run a 32bit firefox that way). I have no idea how to do that anymore though. I just switched to 32bit because I didn't see any reason to run everything 64bit.
[00:55] <Gman99999> but when I call another skype user it works just fine
[00:55] <tanath> pifedo, they work great...
[00:55] <eternal_p> Gman99999: first result in google: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=4489 :)
[00:55] <unop> joh6nn, also while in .screenrc .. place 'clear' in too
[00:56] <bododo_> hi :)
[00:56] <SeaPhor> DEstlund, did you burn them at a slower speed?
[00:56] <rich_freecomm> Gman99999: weirdness
[00:56] <jwwadk> Dason I'm using 8.04 (upgraded today, love it except for this problem), and I can't seem to find my monitor settings. Since upgrading, the hotkeys on my laptop for changing brightness do not work, and the brightness options have disappeared from power management
[00:56] <pifedo> they use to work fine.. not in 8.06! (to me!)
[00:56] <Acalorado> hi, hola
[00:56] <tanath> pifedo, you are running from a livecd, no?
[00:56] <Acalorado> quiero hacer un servido LTSP
[00:56] <bododo_> i'm having troubles with my bcm4318 wifi on a ibook G4 :(
[00:56] <Myke516> can someone assist me in a synaptic package manager issue in 8.04?
[00:56] <Acalorado> Quien m ayuda
[00:56] <pifedo> I think my system isn't rare.. Asus p5b-plus with ICH8 intel chip..
[00:56] <tanath> pifedo, sometimes things don't work right on the disc
[00:56] <Ertyle> !es | Acalorado
[00:56] <ubotu> Acalorado: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:56] <fluidd> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[00:56] <Dason> jwwadk Yea I noticed that too. You may have to re-enable that
[00:56] <DEstlund> i'm burning them at 1x right now, but I don't see why the ubuntu 8.04 cd would be any different than 7.10, or any other cd for that matter. The burns are valid
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Myke516, the servers are overloaded,
[00:56] <nibsa1242b> Wyleyrabbit: I use btnx on my Logitech mice. I find it very useful. ( http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/ )
[00:56] <bododo_> it just doesn't work :(
[00:57] <jwwadk> Dason do you know how I would do that?
[00:57] <Acalorado> #chile
[00:57] <pifedo> tanath: I already installed the system (BETA) some weeks ago and had the same problem
[00:57] <rich_freecomm> I'm only 1286 files away from running 8.04 :D
[00:57] <Dason> 18.2x is a permissible write speed
[00:57] <Myke516> Ah i was thinking that
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> DEstlund, burning slow does make a difference, I can attest to that
[00:57] <Myke516> so far 8.04 is running great though!
[00:57] <tanath> pifedo, well... packages have changed since then
[00:57] <x1250> Acalorado: entra en #ubuntu-es, yo te ayudo si puedo
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> DEstlund, dells and hp really prefer slow burns
[00:57] <anathematic> how would i update my ubuntu server to run the latest version?
[00:57] <Alex_Sc21> Ubuntu 8.04.. SO PUMPED!!!
[00:57] <Ertyle> !upgrade > anathematic    (anathematic, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:57] <joh6nn> unop: that did it, thanks!
[00:57] <anathematic> ty
[00:58] <tanath> pifedo, firefox for instance seems to be the fastest & most stable i've seen so far, even though it's beta
[00:58] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: that is a trouble card! I know to get mine to work I had to enable it in restricted drivers manager
[00:58] <Light|DC> To prevent overload on the servers, couldnt Canocial release the torrent first, then provide direct downloads a day later?
[00:58] <unop> joh6nn, yw
[00:58] <Dason> jwwadk U will be back soon, I need to restart here
[00:58] <joetheodd> Are repositories down?
[00:58] <anathematic> Ertyle: i can't see anything for ubuntu 8 there?
[00:58] <Dason> "I"
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Light|DC, doo discussion toppic for #Ubuntu-offtopic
[00:58] <jwwadk> ok, thanks
[00:58] <Light|DC> ohk
[00:58] <DEstlund> Jack_Sparrow: I'm giving it a try right now - it's not a brand name pc, just a scrap heap I put together (but with good parts) Still it seems odd that I can clone a game dvd for backup with no problem but Ubuntu doesn't like it
[00:58] <sean_> tanath: Direct rendering is supported for "intel". Still no decorations though
[00:58] <e2> Please help.  I can't get desktop effects to work after upgrading to 8.04.
[00:58] <unop> Light|DC, part of the upgrade process is canonical ensuring it's servers are capable, so it's a testing time :)
[00:58] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: i did :( and yes you're right
[00:58] <dogmeat> us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[00:58] <dogmeat> hello
[00:58] <bododo_> it's a dmaned card
[00:58] <DEstlund> alright - burn is done! With any luck you won't see me again in 10 minutes - thanks Jack_Sparrow
[00:59] <e2> I'm using an Nvidia card on an x86 (celeron) box
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:59] <tanath> sean_, did you run 'compiz --replace &' from terminal?
[00:59] <tomd123> did anyone get the alternate cd to work and install?
[00:59] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: additionally, after a few hours of heavy surfing the card progressively looses its connection and I have to "sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx" and then "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" to get it working again.
[00:59] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[00:59] <sean_> tanath: yup. want me to pastebin?
[00:59] <dabbill> I cant get my nvidia driver to work in Hardy, every time i reboot it goes back to low graphics mode
[00:59] <Ertyle> anathematic: ouch, it's not been updated... well, the instructions for ->7.10 should apply for the most part
[00:59] <Deiz> So, as with every time I install Ubuntu, windows maximize to both my monitors instead of one. Is there a workaround? I recall with 7.04 I got lucky after a reboot and it started working properly.
[00:59] <tanath> e2, 'gksu displayconfig-gtk' to make sure you have the right driver installed
[00:59] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: the new one; hardy
[00:59] <tanath> sean_, did it say anything interesting?
[01:00] <towlieban> hi
[01:00] <ng0n> dabbilt: wat nvida card you got, or is it on board ?
[01:00] <bradlis7> is the xorg.conf file not in use in hardy?
[01:00] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: it used to seem to work at a distnce of 3 meters with gutsy
[01:00] <tanath> bradlis7, it is...
[01:00] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: I can't help you there... haven't been able to upgrade. I'm waiting for the repos to be less swamped.
[01:00] <unop> bradlis7, it can be, but xorg can work without one
[01:00] <e2> It's an old 128 Mb NVidia card.  Worked just fine with compiz on 7.10.
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> bradlis7, xorg is entirely different with this release
[01:00] <Ertyle> anathematic: though to be honest, i think you'd be better off waiting until the mirrors actually start working again and there is some documentation
[01:00] <doug2266778822>  why do the animations not work in compiz?
[01:00] <jjt001> Dason: you just need to look harder
[01:00] <bradlis7> so how do i manage the config?
[01:00] <anathematic> Ertyle: yeah i think i might wait anyway ty
[01:00] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: but the solution should be the same, right?
[01:00] <bradlis7> is there another file?
[01:01] <unop> bradlis7, you could create one i guess
[01:01] <x1250> bradlis7: it is, but its minimal because xorg tries to autodetect things. You can edit it by hand, its your choice
[01:01] <ng0n> 5200 ?
[01:01] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: can I pm you, please?
[01:01] <jjt001> Dason: there are open source alternatives to almost everything
[01:01] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: mine works within about a 10-12meter range in Gutsy... which is about half the range I get in Windows
[01:01] <SeaPhor> i've just finished downloading the ISO, do I "open with ~creator" or "write to disk">?
[01:01] <ng0n> pci,  pci-express ?
[01:01] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: sure pm away
[01:01] <tanath> bradlis7, 'gksu displayconfig-gtk' will give you a gui for configuring it
[01:01] <bradlis7> i have nvidia, but it doesn't seem to be able to use it
[01:01] <sean_> tanath: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64294/
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, write to disk is what I use
[01:01] <navetz> i am trying to set up my server to send email
[01:01] <dabbill> ng0n, 8800GT
[01:01] <oddalot> bradlis7 i'm having problems with nvidia and my crt displaying
[01:01] <nomopofomo> my NTFS automount stopped working in 8.04
[01:02] <nomopofomo> does anyone know why?
[01:02] <doug2266778822> can anyone help me get the animations for the windows to work in compiz?
[01:02] <akorn> anybody know the shortcut/macro keys to load up Tracker Search?
[01:02] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, Thanks Bro!
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:02] <ng0n> dab: o.  rats.
[01:02] <e2> HELP - I'm stuck at 1024 x 768 and no desktop effects.
[01:02] <navetz> does anyone know how i can set up my server to send email's?
[01:02] <nibsa1242b> nomopofomo: read the release notes
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, burn at a slow speed
[01:02] <tanath> sean_, doesn't seem you have the right driver
[01:02] <nohelphere> i still have the same exact issue
[01:02] <jwwadk> e2, have you checked the screen resolution options?
[01:02] <metanil> i tried to add other application and got "failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntudists/hardy/Release.gpg" .. and so on
[01:02] <oddalot> blah, stupid resolutions are retarded on heron
[01:02] <cafuego> Both Pidgin and Evolution have stopped being able to create SSL and TLS connections this morning. They don't print any debug info on the cmdline. Am I missing something obvious?
[01:02] <dabbill> brb tryin some thing
[01:02] <e2> Yep.  1024 x 768 is max.
[01:02] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, slowest option i have is 18.6?
[01:02] <ng0n> huh.
[01:02] <bradlis7> i have a flat screen... i finally got the nv driver to work, and the resolution works right when logged in, but the GDM resolution is too big, and displaymanager-gtk has never used the resolution that it says it uses
[01:02] <sean_> tanath: it passes the direct rendering test though
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, np use that
[01:02] <jwwadk> what's the max resolution on your monitor?
[01:03] <e2> I usually have this issue until the nvidia driver is installed and enabled.
[01:03] <oddalot> 800x600 max on my 21 inch monitor, that's if i turn off 3d drivers
[01:03] <e2> Before the upgrade = 1280 x 1024.
[01:03] <oddalot> with 3d drivers i get 680x480 max
[01:03] <bradlis7> yeah, mine's showing 800x600, but it's supposed to be 1440x900
[01:03] <oddalot> e2, we are in the same boat
[01:03] <nohelphere> the x server crashes and restarts
[01:03] <oddalot> all of us
[01:03] <oddalot> stupid upgrade
[01:03] <nohelphere> can only start in a filsafe session
[01:03] <tanath> sean_, glxinfo says direct rendering: yes ?
[01:03] <x1250> oddalot: try adding vertical and horizontal refresh rates on xorg.conf
[01:03] <nohelphere> kubuntu is completely fine
[01:03] <sean_> tanath: yeah, that one
[01:03] <tanath> sean_, odd
[01:03] <e2> oddalot: how?
[01:03] <jPratt> How do i get wine
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[01:04] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[01:04] <oddalot> i don't know what they are supposed to be, this monitor is too old, doesn't have specs
[01:04] <smallfoot-> jPratt, $ sudo apt-get install wine
[01:04] <nohelphere> i NEED to us ekubuntu i can't us eubuntu
[01:04] <jwwadk> jPratt you should be able to download it from the package manager
[01:04] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, I'm gonna try the live cd first, see what works and what doesnt, then upgrade, see what happens but i'll have the full-fresh install option because i have /home on seperate partition
[01:04] <dfgas> !mirrors
[01:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[01:04] <nomopofomo> nibsa1242b, there's nothing in the release notes about NTFS
[01:04] <theunixgeek_> The loading bar in the usplash keeps bobbing back and forth instead of actually loading. how do I fix this?
[01:04] <bradlis7> we need to start a chat about resolution problems
[01:04] <oddalot> i should of saved my xorg.conf from 7.10
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, you can also consider dual boot...
[01:04] <tanath> someone needs to write a guide..
[01:05] <smallfoot-> oddalot, i did :)
[01:05] <e2> One of those things you think would have been ironed out in the beta.
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, I have xp, gutsy and hardy.... here
[01:05] <JPSmon> Help I have no sound
[01:05] <oddalot> smallfoot, do you have a CRT?
[01:05] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, already am with winders, 1 more might confusse me too much lol
[01:05] <akorn> anybody know the shortcut/macro keys to load up Tracker Search?
[01:05] <smallfoot-> oddalot, yes, and it does not support EDID :(
[01:05] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: starts with the "nosplash" kernel option and remove the "quiet" option, and see where it gets stuck
[01:05] <metanil> i tried to add other application and got "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntudists/hardy/Release.gpg" .. and so on
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, np
[01:05] <oddalot> what is edid?
[01:05] <simonft2> JPSmon: seems like computer problem
[01:05] <smallfoot-> oddalot, it reads stats from monitor and automatically use good values
[01:05] <simonft2> is ubuntu showing the volume on?
[01:06] <Ertyle> metanil, mirrors are bogged down, see /topic
[01:06] <JPSmon> nope - the mice in the generator wheel are dead
[01:06] <nibsa1242b> nomopofomo: sorry, my bad I read NTFS as NFS
[01:06] <oddalot> smallfoot- can you email me your working xorg.conf<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:06] <bazhang> ljl is that you? ;]
[01:06] <bradlis7> it's kind of annoying that they took displaymanager-gtk off the menu, and didn't replace it
[01:06] <Ertyle> bazhang: no
[01:06] <bradlis7> i can still use it, but it's annoying
[01:06] <bazhang> haha
[01:06] <JPSmon> simonft2: no, shows with a red circle
[01:06] <smallfoot-> oddalot, ok but im not sure you can use it
[01:06] <nomopofomo> nibsa1242b, that's what I thought :) it's okay though, i found that my harddrives aren't hda1 etc anymore but sda etc
[01:06] <oddalot> wait
[01:06] <A|ysum> hello is "64bit AMD and Intel computers" ubuntu download the right one for Core 2 Duo CPUs ? thx
[01:06] <oddalot> brandlis how do you get to it now?
[01:07] <simonft2> JPSmon: ah, your joking.
[01:07] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, However, I have not logged into my windows partition in so long,,, i would have to spend the first 3 hours on win-updates, AV updates, and a reboot or 2,,,,
[01:07] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: ata1: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
[01:07] <bradlis7> nvidia restricted driver doesn't show up on my hardware drivers either
[01:07] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: but booting in recovery mode works
[01:07] <JPSmon> was
[01:07] <pure`eigenVector> lol
[01:07] <nomopofomo> bradlis7, to fix that you need to go into synaptic and enable third party software, then install nvidia-glx-new
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, I disabled the network card in my windows partition.. too much work to keep it running online..
[01:07] <oddalot> brandlis7 how do you open the display menu?
[01:07] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: upgrade or fresh install?
[01:07] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: fresh
[01:07] <apathetic-> Guise, my xlib.h doesnt exist, i install the xlib-dev pack, but i cannot find it
[01:07] <bradlis7> nomopofomo: thx
[01:08] <pure`eigenVector> I guess everybody's updating... slow download for updates... would it be faster to update from the torrent?
[01:08] <dfgas> !mirror
[01:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[01:08] <smallfoot-> oddalot, sent... but i have nvidia geforce, microsoft mouse, etc.. so it might not work for you
[01:08] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: ok, now it says ist's EH complete
[01:08] <pure`eigenVector> thx ubotu!
[01:08] <dabbill> any one useing a 8800GT in Hardy? if so how did you get your nvidia driver installed and working
[01:08] <oddalot> i have geforce
[01:08] <smallfoot-> oh
[01:08] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: and ata2 is EH complete
[01:08] <oddalot> it might work
[01:08] <smallfoot-> ya, it might
[01:08] <oddalot> i'll just erase the mouse part
[01:08] <oddalot> thankS!!
[01:08] <smallfoot-> else you might need edit some stuff
[01:08] <smallfoot-> :)
[01:08] <Ubuntong> Does 8.04 support Compiz on an ATI 3850?
[01:08] <rawb> i'm getting these errors on a 8.04 server in /var/log/syslog - how can I fix this? http://pastie.caboo.se/186502
[01:08] <DBautell> oddalot, I think I've had luck in the past looking up syncs and stuff here: http://www.monitorworld.com/monitors_home.html
[01:08] <bradlis7> oddalot: alt-f2 -> gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[01:08] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, ? ohhh, so you dont use internrt in windows?
[01:08] <b4l74z4r> i installed the oss system in ubuntu a while back and i can't remember where it installed itself, how do i find the right location?
[01:08] <nomopofomo> dabbill, you need to go into synaptic, enable third party software repositories, then install nvidia-glx-new
[01:08] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: it keeps telling me over and over that EH complete for ata2
[01:08] <phiqtion> what are the colors on this look called? metacity or gtk2?
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, none...
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> phiqtion: what look?
[01:09] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: is there also an "xfermode" error?
[01:09] <phiqtion> thunixgeek: human
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: no
[01:09] <dfgas> anyone know of a good mirror to download at, i am on 5 megabit and would like it fast
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: now I'm in Busybox
[01:09] <simonft2> dfgas: too bad
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: ALERT: /dev/somethingsomething/ does not exist!
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> :S
[01:09] <nownot> everytime i try to apt-get install something i get couldn't find package
[01:09] <oddalot> DBautell: no luck it's not on the list, too old :D
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> dfgas: torrent
[01:09] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> dfgas: see topic
[01:10] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, lmao, Thats probably the BEST way to use windows!
[01:10] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: /dev/disk/by-uuid/something?
[01:10] <DBautell> oddalot, well, I tried
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, again, the servers are tied up.. dont expect to get anything from them
[01:10] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: yeah
[01:10] <mvinsc> when i install will my Broadcom card work? I use windows drivers now.
[01:10] <bazhang> nownot: best enable some more repos then
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, It works for me..
[01:10] <dabbill> nomopofomo, what one? all i have listed in there seems to be ones for 7.10, the 1 thats listed in there for 8.04 is already checked
[01:10] <nownot> Jack_Sparrow: doest even look like its trying to look though
[01:10] <nownot> bazhang:  pls explain
[01:10] <oddalot> brandlis i think that might of fixed it THANKS
[01:10] <cwillu> mvinsc, you shouldn't need to use ndiswrapper anymore
[01:11] <bazhang> nownot: please pastebin your sources.list
[01:11] <cwillu> mvinsc, install b43-fwcutter after you install, and it should work
[01:11] <bradlis7> yup (and it's bradlis7, no n)
[01:11] <mvinsc> really!
[01:11] <cwillu> mvinsc, qualified maybe :p
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, did it ever get through apt-get update ?
[01:11] <fsufitch> hi, could anyone here help me set up a multimonitor output via VGA (or a clone output) in KDE 3.5? (also running compiz)
[01:11] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: you might want to try booting with the "irqpoll" kernel option, given bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/204916 (and also possibly related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/107982 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/112132)
[01:11] <oddalot> i like brandlis :D
[01:11] <CaptainMorgan> I'm trying to find the remaining disk space on a remote ubuntu system.... anyone got a command line for it ?
[01:11] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: thanks
[01:11] <cwillu> mvinsc, if you're not doing a fresh install, make sure you undo any blacklisting stuff you did previously
[01:11] <towlieban> i ran update manager and its downloading 79 packages. does that sound right for an update from gutsy to hardy or are those just gutsy updates ?
[01:11] <cwillu> remove ndiswrapper configs, etc
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: the irqpoll has always bugged me in every distro - ubuntu, fedora, etc
[01:12]  * bradlis7 laughs
[01:12] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: although, the fact that recovery mode works leaves me perplexed
[01:12] <flamedryad> i is back
[01:12] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:12] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: but you were using Gutsy without it?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> CaptainMorgan, free ?
[01:12] <Liquidy> CaptainMorgan: df -a
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: yeah
[01:12] <CaptainMorgan> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[01:12] <mvinsc> ok. thanks
[01:12] <dabbill> nomopofomo, also it shows that i have nvidia-glx-new installed
[01:12] <simonft2> !Segmentation fault
[01:12] <towlieban> can anyone answer me
[01:12] <nownot> Jack_Sparrow:  doing it now
[01:12] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: was your drive /dev/sdwhatever or /dev/hdwhatever in gutsy?
[01:12] <towlieban> i ran update manager and its downloading 79 packages. does that sound right for an update from gutsy to hardy or are those just gutsy updates ?
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: not sure
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: but now it's booting normally
[01:12] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[01:12] <Ertyle> towlieban: doesn't sound right
[01:12] <cwillu> towlieban, probably just gutsy
[01:13] <fsufitch> towlieban: that sounds a little too little for that ;)
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: how do I change grub to always boot with irqpoll?
[01:13] <bradlis7> i think there were 1000 packages that i had to update
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: (I'm logged in now :D )
[01:13] <fsufitch> i'm doing the same upgrade and it has 1.5k "files"
[01:13] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - however be aware that irqpoll does take a toll on performance (not sure how bad a toll, but)
[01:13] <towlieban> 1500 packages ?????/
[01:13] <mattycoze> hey everyone, what's the command to update to 8.04?
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: oh well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do ;)
[01:13] <Ertyle> towlieban: that would me more like it
[01:13] <towlieban> how many packages are there for an update from gutsy to hardy  ?
[01:13] <fsufitch> dunno if they're packages themselves
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: thanks a bunch :)
[01:14] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:14] <Abd> i have to update 1237 files and at 1057 file
[01:14] <Ertyle> towlieban, it depends on how many packages you had installed on your gutsy
[01:14] <Abd> not much longer to wait
[01:14] <clay> hey, anybody know how to install lightning 0.8 w/ thunderbird for 8.04?
[01:14] <Ertyle> but basically it will update every package
[01:14] <jPratt> I cant get wi e
[01:14] <jPratt> wine**
[01:14] <phiqtion> how can i unpack a .RAR archive
[01:14] <fsufitch> towlieban: see, Abd agrees w/ me sorta
[01:14] <xb3rt> i downloaded a .tar.bz2 firewall package, extracted it and cant run make or make install, any reason for this?
[01:14] <Ertyle> !rar > phiqtion    (phiqtion, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:14] <linkmaster03> jPratt: sudo apt-get install wine
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar > phiqtion
[01:14] <bradlis7> the usf.edu server is in good shape, if anyone needs to update
[01:15] <mattycoze> !update
[01:15] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:15] <Ertyle> xb3rt: define "can't run"
[01:15]  * Twigathy waves
[01:15] <box> of
[01:15] <simonft2> !rar|phiqtion
[01:15] <ubotu> phiqtion: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:15] <Liquidy> phiqtion: www.rarlab.com :)
[01:15] <cabrioleur> linkmaster03, this usually means that the application was compiled using different libraries than what you currently have. Revert to previous version, it might fix problem. You can also compile your own xsane.
[01:15] <jPratt> E: Couldn't find package wine
[01:15] <oddalot> YES, that fixed it branlis7
[01:15] <Ertyle> jPratt: you need Universe enabled
[01:15] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: i'll try compiling it myself thank you
[01:15] <Ertyle> !sources > jPratt    (jPratt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:15] <xb3rt> Ertyle, i can do the ./configure but thats as far as it gets
[01:15] <fsufitch> jPratt: do you have universe enabled?
[01:15] <kswo> Hello, If I have an older version of ubuntu and I want to get the new version, do I need to re-download/install the newest version or can I use the internet update feature?
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> jPratt: or add the wine repository
[01:15] <oddalot> that is annoying that they didn't include the display option in the menus
[01:15] <Ertyle> xb3rt: then what happens? use pastebin if necessary
[01:15] <simonft2> 	!update
[01:15] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:16] <theunixgeek> with desktop effects, there's a pink glow around windows. how do I fix this?
[01:16] <mOrO^> the servers must be blitzed... no way can I d/l Hardy
[01:16] <twinkie_addict> oh yey 9 hours and 50 min left lol i realy should have waited hopefully the conection pics up soon
[01:16] <bradlis7> oddalot: still getting my name wrong.... your display problems i guess?
[01:16] <jwwadk> is anyone else having problems with brightness hotkeys in heron?
[01:16] <Twigathy> I'm trying to set up an NFSroot style Hardy install, but the boot always hangs at "eth0: link up" (This is after the nfs-premount script runs). Is there any way of nuking network manager or anything which will mess about with the networking?
[01:16] <jPratt> how do you enable universe?
[01:16] <Ertyle> mOrO^: use the torrents, see /topic
[01:16] <xb3rt> Ertyle, how do i use pastebin
[01:16] <oddalot> oh yeah, bradlis7
[01:16] <Ertyle> jPratt: see the message from Ubotu, it has a link about "recommended sources"
[01:16] <twinkie_addict> does wubi have resume ?
[01:16] <theunixgeek> xb3rt: pastebin.com
[01:16] <Ertyle> !pastebin > xb3rt    (xb3rt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:16] <theunixgeek> xb3rt: type it in, paste the url
[01:16] <mOrO^> Ertyle, does the torrent auto install? If it doesnt... Ill wait :)
[01:16] <towlieban> that site for upgrading doesnt mention 7.10 to 8.04 heres the right link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[01:16] <oddalot> sorry about the name, wow this looks better than 7.04, it's like a little smoother it seems
[01:16] <oddalot> err 7.10
[01:16] <Ertyle> mOrO^: "auto install"?
[01:16] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[01:17] <clay> i've been release impressed with hardy heron
[01:17] <bradlis7> yup, i think i'd like it if i could get 3d working :)
[01:17] <simonft2> pen: ubuntu talk only
[01:17] <macabro22> ubuntu isn't upgrading for some reason. Can someone help me find out whats wrong?
[01:17] <mOrO^> Ertyle, yeah, through the update manager
[01:17] <pen> simonft2: it's a ubuntu application, why can't I?
[01:17] <linkmaster03> macabro22: repos are very slow
[01:17] <simonft2> ok
[01:17] <theunixgeek> macabro22: too many people trying to upgrade at once, probably
[01:17] <towlieban> OPS: who here controls the link thats returned when doing !update ?
[01:17] <simonft2> nevermindn
[01:17] <oddalot> macabro22 what's the problem?
[01:17] <fsufitch> could anybody help me get a multimonitor setup working in kde 3.5 to work along with compiz?
[01:17] <simonft2> thinking about something else
[01:18] <runlevel> anyone able to get the logitech dinovo edge/mini dinovo working?
[01:18] <simonft2> sorry
[01:18] <goat|work> maco: if your still around,  disabling all network settings in Update Manager didn't work
[01:18] <bazhang> macabro22: more info please; are your sources set to hardy? did you update and dist-upgrade?
[01:18] <macabro22> oddalot: I am trying to upgrade but upgrade-manager becomes unresponsive
[01:18] <xb3rt> Ertyle, http://pastebin.com/m1ceace02
[01:18] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, The funniest thing is, I work for HP testing wireless lan and wan on new platforms of vista and xp, and thats the one question i still have here, how to get my rtl8185 to work on my own PC!
[01:18] <mOrO^> Ertyle, Im one of them dar Linux newbies. I like for my computer to ask me, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO TODAY! I hit the switch and KDE comes up.
[01:18] <tony403> fsufitch, have you tried #xorg?
[01:19] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, compiz should have no effect on your monitor setup. What graphic card do you have?
[01:19] <fsufitch> tony403: i thought it would be something ubuntu-specific
[01:19] <sammy> where does debconf get my root partition from, the partition where it gets the UUID it wants to put in my grub menu.1st ?
[01:19] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: where can I download the xsane source? i see binaries on the website
[01:19] <fsufitch> cabrioleur: i have an integrated intel
[01:19] <fsufitch> running  on a dell b134
[01:19] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:19] <fsufitch> *b130
[01:19] <towlieban> i really hope hardy fixes the problem with sleeping when i close the lid of my laptop
[01:19] <raiderxx> So I just upgraded to hardy heron. But I don't see any difference
[01:19] <raiderxx> SHOULD I?
[01:19] <theunixgeek> raiderxx: read the features thingy
[01:19] <tony403> fsufitch, no, ubuntu doesn't natively use kde. you could try #kubuntu as well but maybe someone here knows also
[01:19] <tarkus> anyone know how to get postgresql server running?
[01:19] <sammy> I've edited manually, since I moved my root partition, and it wants to change it back. I'd like to avoid problems in the future and change wherever on my system it's still getting that my root partition is where it used to be
[01:19] <JPSmon> does anyone know where I can get good cube-top-wallpapers?
[01:20] <mattycoze> if i've already download the Hardy LTS 8.04 iso file is there a way to update the pC with that instead of wiping the pC clean and doing a fresh install?
[01:20] <JPSmon> preferably transparent?
[01:20] <Ertyle> mOrO^, still not sure what you mean, but the CD image that you get from torrent is the very same image that you'd get from the web server (if it worked)
[01:20] <raiderxx> theunixgeek: where can I find that?
[01:20] <theunixgeek> raiderxx: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[01:20] <raiderxx> thanks
[01:20] <bazhang> mattycoze: live or alternate
[01:20] <cabrioleur> linkmaster03, ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/sane/xsane/xsane-0.995.tar.gz - most recent one
[01:20] <Liquidy> raiderxx: if you upgraded all of your applications on your previous distro you wouldn't have to see any diference :)
[01:20] <towlieban> matty you mean upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 ?
[01:20] <sammy> hmm. I should come back a few weeks after upgrade day.
[01:20] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur thank you very much
[01:20] <JPSmon> mattycoze: not with THAT CD, you have to download the alternate install CD
[01:20] <raiderxx> liquidy: I upgrade regularly
[01:20] <Ertyle> !build-essential > xb3rt    (xb3rt, see the private message from Ubotu) install this package
[01:20] <mattycoze> bazhang i'm pretty sure it's the live
[01:21] <theunixgeek> raiderxx: http://www.fsckin.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-hardy-heron-804-release-notes-rewritten-in-plain-english/
[01:21] <mattycoze> ahh dang
[01:21] <unop> mattycoze, i'm not sure, with previous releases only the alternate CD could do upgrades that way
[01:21] <bazhang> mattycoze: need the alternate then
[01:21] <navetz_> my apt-get just broke on me
[01:21] <cappicard> hm.. anyone not able to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com when running apt-get?
[01:21] <mohbana> can i install from a ntfs partion, i don't have a dvd handy
[01:21] <mattycoze> thanks bazhang unop JPSmon
[01:21] <navetz_> i was trying to install sendmail
[01:21] <navetz_> but it failed
[01:21] <cappicard> there it goes
[01:21] <ryoohki> is there a channel for 8.04 aka hardy heron?
[01:21] <navetz_> now i cant remove it
[01:21] <navetz_> can anoyone help?
[01:21] <FloodBot2> navetz_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:21] <sammy> cappicard: it's swamped.
[01:21] <theunixgeek> ryoohki: this one
[01:21] <Liquidy> if you keep it up to date, and with everything been opensource, what did you expect of hardy?
[01:21] <Liquidy> it's nothing new
[01:21] <cappicard> yeah i can see that
[01:21] <clay> yeah, apt-get is having a hard today :)