[03:28] <xubuntu13i> Hello
[04:45] <xubuntu52w> How can i reinstall the version of lightdm xubuntu uses? when I apt-get install light-dm it installs the regular Ubuntu version
[04:47] <flocculant> xubuntu and ubuntu use the same version - same repository
[04:48] <krytarik> (Different greeter though.)
[04:58] <xubuntu52w> The problem im having is when I log in all i get is the mouse and the wallpaper, ive reinstalled lightdm the greeter and xubuntu-desktop and still same thing happens ive exhausted google search results, really dont want to reinstall :(  It was working fine for a few days then this happened out of nowhere
[05:00] <krytarik> Corrupted user profile rather.
[05:04] <xubuntu52w> any fix?
[05:15] <xubuntu52w> never mind i got it, that took forever
[07:32] <nova_> I just installed 18.04.  I've been using 16.04 previously.  I can't remember how I managed to make qt applications use my gtk theme (numix), but I did.  There are lots of suggestions online, so many that I don't want to try a bunch of random things that aren't the "correct" solution.  Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
[07:43] <Spass> nova_, I know that I once installed qt4-qtconfig to make the Qt4 apps look good and it worked, but I don't know how to "fix" Qt5 apps, I never tried
[07:47] <nova_> perhaps that's what I did on 16.04 too.  I'm looking into something called qt5ct right now that sounds similar
[07:50] <nova_> restarting brb
[08:18] <nova_> ok so i found the solution in case anyone wants to know.  I had to install qt5ct and qt5-style-plugins, then "export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct", which I added to the end of /home/.profile (perhaps not the right place.  After a reboot I ran qt5ct in a terminal without sudo, selected gtk2 as the style.  This took effect with notepadqq right away, but I had to select gtk2 in vlc preferences for it to take effect there.
[09:05] <Spass> in case someone is still interested, what worked for me was installing qt5-style-plugins and creating a ~/.pam_environment file with QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2
[09:06] <Spass> no reboot required even, works on VLC and VirtualBox
[09:06] <Unit193> The latter is not needed due to //etc/X11/Xsession.d/56xubuntu-session
[09:08] <Spass> you're right, now I see it, thanks, so only qt5-style-plugins does the job
[10:09] <ondondil> I mentioned here an issue with thunar yesterday. I was able to reproduce it on two different machines - AMD desktop PC and 5 years old Intel laptop. Here's a video demonstrating the problem: https://streamable.com/jllzj
[10:09] <ondondil> I sent the crash report using that automatic tool that comes preinstalled with Ubuntu (apport?, whoopsie? - I'm not sure what's its name) So, apart from that automatic bug report, is there anything I should do?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> wait.   patiently.
[10:14] <ondondil> okay then
[10:14] <ondondil> BTW I'd like to thank everyone involved in the Xubuntu project. Despite some minor issues Xubuntu 18.04 it's the best distro I've ever used.
[10:14] <Unit193> \o/
[10:15] <cfhowlett> happy2help! ondondil
[10:17] <GeorgeX> join
[13:21] <k5ehx> is there a link to where I can submit a bug?
[13:22] <k5ehx> as far as I can tell, this numlockx thing is only xubuntu
[13:22] <cfhowlett> !bug | k5ehx
[13:25] <k5ehx> wow, that is very non-obvious
[13:31] <k5ehx> why on earth did they enable this numlockx thing? This is hugely annoying and I don't understand why it is my problem that people don't know how to use their keyboards.
[13:33] <k5ehx> and when I hit numlock to turn it off it now turns it back on immediately. What? Why?
[15:10] <PhazonicRidley> hello, i am trying to install xubuntu on my rpi 3B+, i had to get the latest fw from rpi team's github and replaced the boot files, it boots, but i cannot control the pi with my mouse and keyboard does anyone know y?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> perhaps the drivers have not been properly configured
[15:11] <PhazonicRidley> how would i go about properly configuring them?
[15:13] <cfhowlett> never used a pi, but I suspect that's the parting point.  suggest you check in on the PI support channes
[15:13] <cfhowlett> channels
[15:13] <PhazonicRidley> asking in them as well
[21:15] <histeron> After installing Xubuntu 18.04 the keyboard layout is wrong.  the 'i' key types '5'.  Some of the keys work correctly, some do not.  It is set to the correct layout in settings.  The errors do not occur until after logging in - I'm able to type the password which includes keys that are incorrect after logging in.
[22:07] <Zunino> Old-time Ubuntu user here trying out Xubuntu for the first time. In short, very, very pleased with my experience.
[22:08] <Zunino> The only nagging issue I've been having has to do with screen tearing.
[22:08] <Zunino> Quite noticeable when scrolling page contents or when watching videos.
[22:09] <Zunino> I actually managed to alleviate the situation by enabling a setting in the "Window Manager Tweaks" application.
[22:10] <Zunino> However, it seems everytime I resume the system after having suspended it, the tearing comes back.
[22:10] <Unit193> Xubuntu also installs an example config for compton.
[22:13] <Zunino> FWIW, this is a Samsung laptop with an integrated Intel graphics controller and also an NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M.
[22:14] <Zunino> The NVIDIA Settings application allows one to choose from 2 profiles: performance mode (which uses the GeForce controller) and power saving mode (uses the Intel controller).
[22:15] <Zunino> I've noticed that, when selecting the performance mode, the screen tearing issue becomes even worse, being easily noticeable when, say, dragging windows across the desktop.
[22:17] <ondondil> I managed to get rid of screen tearing on my machine with intel gpu without changing window manager by setting TearFree option in the driver
[22:17] <ondondil> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics#Tear-free_video


[16:15] <jackpot51> jsalisbury apw: There are numerous hardware support fixes in the proposed kernel, and it has been in proposed for 7 days now. What decides the schedule for release?
[16:17] <jackpot51> For System76, the important ones are "Intel WiFi driver update for ETSI 5GHz adaptivity requirement" and "Clevo P950ER ALC1220 Fixup"
[16:54] <jsalisbury> jackpot51, It depends if there are going to be re-spins to include critical fixes.  I think the tenative date is now June 12th.
[17:04] <jackpot51> Ok, understood


[08:05] <thumper> evening
[08:06] <hads> evening
[19:33] <ajmitch> morning
[19:34] <olly_> morning
[19:57] <thumper> morning
[22:58] <ibeardslee> morning


[00:02] <zabadapp> zorglups2: is it green for all resolutions (800x600 and so on), or just for the res for the 42" ?
[00:04] <zabadapp> and remember that the color temperature is different for a tv than for a monitor ...
[00:04] <zorglups2> Well, I tried a few and even during the boot, the 'white' text turns green. I guess this is not really an xorg matter
[00:05] <zorglups2> In my TV setup page, I checked for the color temperature... This was set to default. I tried the 'warm' and 'cold' but this did not change much.
[00:07] <zorglups2> A few monthes ago, I did connect my laptop to the TV and did not see this problem.
[00:07] <zorglups2> My laptop run's WinXP...
[00:07] <zorglups2> I should try again but would need to reboot (after having connected the TV) and can't do that now.
[00:08] <zabadapp> as a workaround, can't you get the colors right if you adjust them? (on the computer ... X server color correction in nvidia-settings if you have such a card ... )
[00:10] <Dboy> I have this usb tuner card... made in taiwan but it has a phillips chipset.
[00:10] <Dboy> Shouldn't it work with myth
[00:10] <Dboy> ?
[00:10] <Dboy> I've downloaded the myth packages, but somehow I think I am missing something because it doesn't seem to recognize the usb tuner
[00:11] <zorglups2> zabadapp: I should check but need to invest a bit in understanding those graphical stuffs in Linux.  I did not find any suitable setting yet.
[00:11] <Rigolo> Dboy: did you take a look at linuxtv.org to see if it is supported by their drivers?
[00:12] <zorglups2> zabadapp: The strange thing is that I don't have such a green cast with the laptop.
[00:12] <zabadapp> zorglups2: i agree it's strange ... what graphics card is it?
[00:13] <Rigolo> Dboy: the kernel modules for v4l are coming from the linuxtv.org site also
[00:15] <zorglups2> zabadapp: The MoBo is the Intel D201GLY2 an has a SiS chipset. The Laptop (XP) has an ATI video controller.
[00:15] <zorglups2> zabadapp: Both work fine with the 22" LCD but the "green" issue only happens when connecting the Intel Mobo to the TV.
[00:15] <Rigolo> zorglups2: same cables in both cases?
[00:15] <zorglups2> Yes :-( I tried another cable as well...
[00:16] <Rigolo> zorglups2: and did you had it working with a "plain vanilla" ubunut live cd for example?
[00:18] <zorglups2> I will go reboot my XP laptop connected to the TV and make sure I don't see this green problem (last time I tried was a few monthes ago).
[00:18] <zorglups2> The live cd was my next idea as well. I planned using a GeexBox or something I have on CD already.
[00:18] <Rigolo> zorglups2: see what happens when you boot your pc connected to the 42" and then boot your live cd
[00:19] <zorglups2> I will give it a try now. Thanks anyway for your support... I'll let you know.
[00:19] <Rigolo> zorglups2: I prefer ubuntu live cd's .. or knoppix or something like that .. with hardware detection for screens
[00:19] <Rigolo> 01:19 here ... time to go the bed soon :-)
[00:19] <zorglups2> here too  ;-)
[00:19] <zabadapp> here too :-D
[00:19] <zorglups2> From Namur (Belgium)
[00:19] <Rigolo> .nl
[00:19] <zabadapp> sweden
[00:20] <zorglups2> So I guess you won't be there when I'll post my result. Have nice dreams...
[00:20]  * Rigolo is waiting for mythtv to finsih compiling ... want to test a patch for a bug
[00:21] <Rigolo> well ... I leave this window open most of the time :-)
[01:04] <alexvd> all  is irman still broken in current build of mythbuntu
[01:04] <alexvd> that is the lirc version that is included
[01:06] <majoridiot> if there is anyone using firewire with a Scientific Atlanta cable box or other cable box that requires p2p priming, please pm me... testers are needed for a new version of the firewire primer.  **will not require any changes to your configuration!!**
[01:25] <javatexan> man am I bummed
[01:25] <javatexan> I can't work on my plugin for a couple of weeks because of work... :(
[01:27] <majoridiot> javatexan, what is you plugin?
[01:34] <javatexan> its super top secret, but it will be very very cool when I am finished :)
[01:38] <zabadapp> give us a hint at least
[01:39] <javatexan> i cant...but its a bummer that I cant work on it for a while...
[01:43] <rhpot1991> I bet it involves tivo
[02:02] <ajh> with nvidia I'm getting 1/4 of the screen randomly showing the myth theme background and a progress bar, while watching tv, or in the guide, any ideas?
[02:02] <ajh> like bad X expose events, but that's probably not it :)
[02:17] <Stemming78> Hey guys --> I finally got my Remote Frontend Openchrome driver setup correctly (fresh install) and now I cannot watch LiveTV or Recordings  ---Frontend closes
[02:38] <javatexan> rhpot1991: you are so right
[02:38] <javatexan> :)
[02:39] <javatexan> yeah...it is prolly completely useless to most myth users
[02:40] <javatexan> who knows...right
[02:40] <rhpot1991> javatexan: I'm sure there are those who will appreciate it
[02:45] <javatexan> It's working now in script form...I am about to start the gui
[03:02] <rhpot1991> how are you doing the gui javatexan?
[03:12] <superm1> javatexan, super top secrete?
[03:12] <superm1> i like secrets
[03:12] <superm1> want to tell me?
[03:13] <superm1> rhpot1991, mythstream finally got backported today i think
[03:24] <rhpot1991> superm1: thats good to hear
[03:24] <rhpot1991> I'll check the FAQs and see if anything needs to be altered to indicate that
[03:38] <Dar1us> has anyone used ubuntu with JMicron RAID?
[03:38] <Dar1us> (successfully)
[03:57] <MythbuntuGuest04> i upgraded one of my frontends to hardy and the sound stoped i asked around and googled and finaly found that it was using a 386 kernel instead of the generic, so i followed to instructions to use the generic and remove the 386 one
[03:57] <MythbuntuGuest04> now the sound works
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest04> but, my tv is black and white without color
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest04> when i access it with vnc its color, so im sure its something with the video card, any ideas?
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest04> anyone?
[04:12] <emja> anyone know where irexec starts from? I can't find it in /etc/ or in ~
[04:19] <emja> ok, bad question. in what startup script is irexec referenced?
[04:24] <majoridiot> emja-
[04:25] <majoridiot> put it in /etc/rc.local
[04:25] <emja> ?
[04:25] <emja> no. I'm asking where is it already?
[04:25] <majoridiot> irexec is not started by default
[04:25] <emja> realy?
[04:25] <emja> on my fresh mythbuntu build it *is* starting
[04:25] <majoridiot> so sudo edit your /etc/rc.local and add
[04:25] <majoridiot> irexec -d
[04:25] <majoridiot> before the exit 0
[04:26] <majoridiot> hm... ok.  must have been a new addition.
[04:26] <emja> sure, but it is already starting. I'm trying to find where so I can nuke it, then I can start it in my preferred location
[04:26] <majoridiot> emja, are you sure about it starting automatically?
[04:27] <emja> yep. If I reboot, it starts
[04:27] <majoridiot> i just check a fresh 8.04 install and it is not running
[04:27] <emja> If I kill it, then restart gdm, it also starts
[04:27] <emja> 7.10 here
[04:27] <majoridiot> doesn't run by default in my 7.10 either.
[04:28] <emja> weird
[04:28] <emja> very very weird
[04:29] <emja> something is starting it on login or when X/gdm starts
[04:29] <emja> not during boot. that much I've confirmed
[04:30] <Dar1us> emja: grep -r iexeced / :)
[04:30] <Dar1us> irexecd even
[04:30] <emja> :)
[04:30] <emja> yes, did that too
[04:30] <emja> hence my complete lack of folicular growth
[04:31] <Stemming78> majoridiot:  Finally got my remote frontend setup/ 3D enabled...  Have a problem watching TV or recordings --> Frontend crashes..
[04:31] <majoridiot> Stemming78, i saw your earlier post... successful misery.
[04:32] <majoridiot> Stemming78, just out of curiosity... why are you beating yer head against a wall to get 3D working on a pvr?
[04:32] <Stemming78> yah, quite the headache; but think the DRI problem I was experiencing was the worsk
[04:32] <Dar1us> majoridiot: awesome screensavers! :)
[04:32] <Stemming78> No, throwing the kids against the wall... Dont want to ruin the looks ;-)
[04:33]  * emja laughs
[04:33]  * majoridiot has no sympathy for eye-candy induced problems
[04:33] <majoridiot> :P
[04:34] <Stemming78> Must mention, I had to do another install after the last post;  screwed up the xorg once again and couldnt recover.
[04:34] <Stemming78> SO, the kids have been traumatized today!
[04:35] <Stemming78> Anyways, what do you think?  throw the box to the curb? or is there a reason for Frontend crashing....   Can play Videos
[04:36] <emja> Dar1us & majoridiot: found it; /usr/share/mythbuntu/session.sh
[04:39] <Stemming78> majoridiot:  was unable to get smooth video when watching TV or Recordings... Thats why I went 3D not to sure if it helped as I cannot get them to play...
[04:39] <majoridiot> 3D shouldn't have anything to do with video.
[04:40] <Stemming78> ahhh, well that was unnecessary work for me then....
[04:40] <Dar1us> well.. you can use open gl to scale & colour space convert
[04:40] <Stemming78> So, any ideas as to how to rectify the frontend crashing?
[04:41] <majoridiot> Dar1us, you *can*...
[04:41] <majoridiot> Stemming78, what kind of errors do you get in your logs when it crashes?
[04:41] <Dar1us> majoridiot: and it can be beneficial
[04:42] <majoridiot> Dar1us, if the driver cooperates... yes, it can.
[04:42] <Dar1us> majoridiot: yeah :)
[04:42] <Stemming78> 2008-03-28 22:29:47.164 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'ivtv' not available.
[04:42] <Stemming78> 			codec 'MPEG2' makes 'opengl,xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'opengl' instead.
[04:42] <Stemming78> 2008-03-28 22:29:47.305 GLVid, Error: Fatal error
[04:42] <Stemming78> Sorry... should have pastebin
[04:44] <majoridiot> not for that.  not an abuse.
[04:45] <majoridiot> what are you using as a tuner?
[04:45] <Stemming78> Tuner is on the Backend --> PVR500
[04:46] <Dar1us> can anyone recommend a RAID1 card (cheap) that will work with ubunutu?
[04:46] <Dar1us> I'm allergic to reinstallin because of dead disks
[04:49] <Stemming78> majoridiot: Well, I disabled 3D (bs) and now Recordings are playing back smooth!!!
[04:50] <Stemming78> no crashes of course.  You have a minute for a small fav por favor?
[04:50] <majoridiot> well whut'cha know.
[04:50]  * majoridiot is crunched for time, atm... what's up?
[04:51] <Stemming78> Hey, but the video is smooth...
[04:51] <majoridiot> 'twas the point, no?
[04:51] <Stemming78> Xorg is my pitfall... Have it setup for TV, would like to implement LCD into it...   You up for the challenge?
[04:52] <Dar1us> do you have a dual head card?
[04:52] <Dar1us> well, what sort of card do you have?
[04:52] <Stemming78> The Epia has Composite and VGA output.  BIOS has TV and CRT settings...  Currently both TV and LCD are on, but resolutions are off....
[04:53]  * majoridiot is buried with the firewire primer atm... and just about out of steam.
[04:53] <Stemming78> Using the default xorg.conf
[04:53] <Stemming78> np major!
[04:54] <Dar1us> if X already groks them then you should be able to change res with xrandr or some gui tool
[04:58] <majoridiot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647
[04:59] <Stemming78> Dar1us: Tried the Display settings and that made it worse...  Not sure which display res is being used, but it seems as if it is for a widescreen
[04:59] <Stemming78> So, it works just doesnt feel completed.
[05:00] <Dar1us> odd
[05:00] <Dar1us> pastebin the output of xrandr?
[05:00] <Stemming78> var/log/?
[05:00] <Dar1us> xrandr --screen 1 --prop
[05:01] <Dar1us> and xrandr --screen 0 --prop
[05:01] <majoridiot> are you xrandr-ey, baby?
[05:03] <Stemming78> nothing shows on the screen.  Does it write to a log?
[05:04] <Dar1us> odd
[05:05] <Dar1us> it should dump what resolutions the displays can do
[05:05] <Stemming78> yah...   Actually, it didnt open a new line; just fashed then back to the same $ prompt
[05:06] <Dar1us> the output from my laptop looks like.. http://pastebin.ca/961779
[05:06] <majoridiot> Stemming78, try redirecting it to a log file?
[05:07] <Stemming78> Thank you...  did not have a space w/ between "screen 0"
[05:08] <Dar1us> ahh
[05:08] <Dar1us> learn to read :)
[05:08]  * majoridiot recommends the fine art of cut-and-paste to Stemming78
[05:09] <Stemming78> I am on the Vista box, thanks idiot;  cannot run that command from a SSH session
[05:09] <Dar1us> ahh
[05:09] <Dar1us> well you could
[05:09] <Dar1us> log in locally and do xhost +
[05:09] <Dar1us> then inyour putty do
[05:09] <Dar1us> export DISPLAY=:0
[05:10]  * majoridiot runs before Stemming78's computer asplodes
[05:11] <Stemming78> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6182/
[05:11] <Stemming78> HAH
[05:12] <Dar1us> is that run locally?
[05:12] <Dar1us> or via putty?
[05:12] <Stemming78> local, but same output w/ putty
[05:12] <Stemming78> thanks for the command...  like that
[05:12] <Dar1us> well that says you onlyhave one screen
[05:13] <Dar1us> you could try xrandr -d :1 --prop too
[05:13] <Dar1us> ie xrandr -d :1 --prop
[05:13] <Stemming78> didnt like either command --- at help
[05:13] <Dar1us> pastebin what it says
[05:14] <Stemming78> Can't open display :1
[05:14] <Stemming78> xrandr -d :1 --prop
[05:14] <Dar1us> ok
[05:14]  * majoridiot is burnt.
[05:14] <Dar1us> X thinks you only have 1 display
[05:14] <majoridiot> nite guys.
[05:15] <Stemming78> k, but some how both screens are displaying ---> just not correctly
[05:15] <Stemming78> you wish to see the xorg?
[05:15] <Dar1us> well the video card is probably mirroring them automagically
[05:16] <Dar1us> but that means you can only have 1 resolution..
[05:16] <Stemming78> so, If I were to remove the VGA mon, the video would go out?
[05:16] <Dar1us> your LCD panel would have a native res, without it  it will look crappy
[05:16] <Dar1us> no I don't think that would happen
[05:16] <Stemming78> Here is my situation,  I dont want to reinstall again... Been doing that tooo many times...
[05:16] <Dar1us> I wasn't suggesting you reinstall..
[05:17] <Stemming78> This box is destined to be setup in my bedroom and be connected to the TV only.  If wireless goes down. I will need to be able to fix (cannot on a TV - resolution) so the LCD will be needed at that time.
[05:18] <Stemming78> Could have an xorg set to have both? or will I need to # fields not in use
[05:18] <Dar1us> can you explain what the problem is now?
[05:18] <Dar1us> the TV looks bad or the LCD looks bad?
[05:18] <Stemming78> Yah, that is why I dont wish to mess w/ the Xorg as everytime I do, I have to reinstall
[05:19] <Stemming78> Currently dpi looks good on both....   Mouse travels out of screen (btm, left, right)
[05:20] <Stemming78> Hence, resolution is no good (cutting off about an inch at each local).
[05:20] <Dar1us> odd
[05:20] <Dar1us> press the auto button on your LCD?
[05:20] <Dar1us> I am not sure what knobs there are for tuning the TV out for epia
[05:21] <Stemming78> No change...  Xorg does not have any references to resolution
[05:21] <Stemming78> Think you can set the resolution from within xorg;  but I already tried this (wrong field) and crashed and burned...
[05:22] <Stemming78> I am covered in blood ATM
[05:22] <Dar1us> I dunno then sorry
[05:22] <Stemming78> bad wipeout
[05:22] <Dar1us> I don't have a problem with pressing ctrl-alt-f1 and editing the file directly..
[05:23] <Stemming78> huh?
[05:23] <Dar1us> nevermind..
[05:23] <Stemming78> still learning
[05:23] <Dar1us> i think you need to find someone with epia experiencce
[05:24] <Stemming78> Ok, well thanks for trying.../
[05:25] <Stemming78> Have a good evening....  Going to setup the wifi and take to the bedroom and watch some skin
[05:25] <Stemming78> ;-)
[05:25] <Dar1us> heh cya
[05:33] <MythbuntuGuest97> is there a way to get rid of the bar with the application menu at the top of the screen?
[05:43] <JoshT76> hello
[05:43] <JoshT76> has anyone experienced the desktop not filling the entire screen with an nvidia card?
[05:43] <JoshT76> 7950gt specificall
[05:44] <JoshT76> y
[05:48] <JoshT76> anyone here
[05:50] <MythbuntuGuest97> no one has said anything for a while, i asked how to get rid of the task bar from the top of the screen but no answer in a half hour or so
[05:52] <JoshT76> ok
[06:03] <Stemming78> MythbuntuGuest97: Are you seeing the app bar while in Myth?
[06:04] <Stemming78> JoshT76:  have you tried loading the proprietary driver in MCC
[09:11] <MythbuntuGuest97> yes im seeing it while in myth, which is annoying
[12:45] <sebrock> After I updated MythWeb music and video sections are not to be seen anymore?
[12:45] <sebrock> not even from settings
[15:07] <ahave> hello room. anyone here have an antec fusion black 430 case with working IR receiver?
[15:07] <rhpot1991> I have a silver working
[15:08] <ahave> did you have to do anything special to configure?
[15:09] <ahave> and what remote do you have?
[15:09] <rhpot1991> one of the MCE usb2 models
[15:10] <rhpot1991> here is what I did: setup irmon vfd/lcd in MCC
[15:10] <rhpot1991> then run sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop
[15:11] <rhpot1991> then go to your home directory and run sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 lircd.conf
[15:11] <ahave> could you explain how to setup irmon in MCC?
[15:11] <rhpot1991> follow that, do all your buttons, go twist the wheel
[15:11] <rhpot1991> ahave: MCC == mythbuntu control centre
[15:11] <rhpot1991> launch that, its on the IR tab
[15:11] <ahave> right
[15:11] <ahave> and i have selected a MCE driver
[15:12] <ahave> i am using a remote that came with a hauppauge pvr-500
[15:12] <ahave> i believe it to be a MCE remote
[15:13] <ahave> perhaps i can selecting the wrong driver?
[15:14] <zabadapp> rhpot1991: the VFD crashes after a few ir-codes from either my tv-remote (changing volume etc on the tv), or my hauppage remote (trying to get it to work with the built in ir-eye).
[15:14] <EvilGuru> ahave: I think the pvr-500 remove is the same as the pvr-150 one
[15:14] <ahave> EvilGuru, ok. so should i select a MCE driver or a hauppauge one?
[15:15] <zabadapp> rhpot1991: lcdproc stops to function and dumps an error message to the syslog (about 10 lines per second)
[15:15] <EvilGuru> Try setting it as the 150 one
[15:15] <EvilGuru> (I would be more helpful, but my system is not booted up)
[15:15] <zabadapp> rhpot1991: do you know what that could be? since you got it working :)
[15:16] <ahave> EvilGuru, I only have 3 options under hauppauge... DVB-s card, Nova-T 500, and TV-card
[15:16] <EvilGuru> try tv card
[15:16] <ahave> should i generate dynamic button mapping?
[15:17] <rhpot1991> if you want it to work, select the imon VFD/LCD one
[15:17] <rhpot1991> then you can test your remotes by doing sudo cat /dev/lirc0
[15:17] <rhpot1991> if garbage shows up, it can read your remote
[15:17] <rhpot1991> then you just need to irrecord to make your config
[15:17] <rhpot1991> gotta walk my dogs, I'll be back in a bit
[15:18] <ahave> i do not see the 'imon VFD/LCD' one
[15:26] <ahave> my remote looks kinda like this... http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/PVR_500_MCE.jpg
[15:28] <abarbaccia> what type of remotes do people use? i was debating getting something good
[15:29] <directhex> sony ps3 remote!
[15:30] <abarbaccia> yeah? did u build a receiver
[15:30] <directhex> it's called "bluetooth". why build a receiver
[15:31] <abarbaccia> i was unaware. so how did you get that to interface with lirc
[15:31] <directhex> i didn't. keyboard emulation.
[15:32] <abarbaccia> interesting approach. runs into problems though if you use more than one application like mythtv + xine + mplayer, right?
[15:32] <directhex> if the keyboard maps vary, yes
[15:32] <directhex> fortunately, i don't run more than one application
[15:32] <abarbaccia> yeah - it would be interesting to see the direction of the lirc package as bluetooth becomes a more viable option
[15:33] <abarbaccia> i think its going to be more of an interface daemon not just IR
[15:33] <directhex> lirc is a relic. it needs replacing from scratch
[15:33] <abarbaccia> directhex i wouldn't say that. it's a very usable package
[15:34] <directhex> it's not remotely usable. compiling per-system kernel packages is not usable
[15:34] <ahave> i have my remotes setup so that I can read them, now how do i map the buttons to actions?
[15:35] <abarbaccia> true, but what other choice do you have?
[15:35] <abarbaccia> ahave: .lirc
[15:35] <ahave> do i have to use irrecord?
[15:35] <abarbaccia> do you have configuration files already
[15:35] <ahave> idk
[15:35] <abarbaccia> because there is a configuration file saying "this hex code = this button"
[15:35] <ahave> i think i found my remote here: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/
[15:35] <abarbaccia> directhex you have a good point. but it does get the job done
[15:36] <abarbaccia> ahave: good. did you install that file, etc
[15:36] <ahave> no i have not
[15:36] <ahave> can you link me to a guide? or is just a simple copy
[15:36] <ahave> i could not find that file in the MCC
[15:36] <abarbaccia> what ubuntu are you using?
[15:36] <directhex> abarbaccia, so did the 2.2 kernel, MKNOD, and XF86Config-4. but we've moved on since then
[15:37] <ahave> 7.10
[15:37] <abarbaccia> directhex agreed. i'm interested in seeing where its gonna go esp because more people are using remotes with computers, etc
[15:37] <directhex> i've seen snippets of code to handle remotes in dbus. i'll wait & see, i think
[15:37] <ahave> abarbaccia, MCC claims to be using the mceusb config file
[15:37] <abarbaccia> ahave: run "irw" and then push buttons on your remote - do you get output?
[15:38] <ahave> abarbaccia, no i do not
[15:38] <abarbaccia> ahave: run lsmod | grep lirc -- are the modules loaded?
[15:38] <ahave> abarbaccia, but i do with cat /dev/lirc0
[15:39] <abarbaccia> ahave: you want to look at your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file
[15:40] <ahave> abarbaccia, lsmod | grep lirc -- leads me to think that modules are not loaded.. i only have information next to the last 3 lines, the frist 3 have the text '0'
[15:40] <abarbaccia> ahave: you want to see what remote control file its defining. and look at the lircd process (ps aux | grep lircd) to make sure its loading the right now
[15:40] <boritek> Hello i have just installed mythtv on ubuntu gutsy, and it says: no UPnP backends found
[15:40] <abarbaccia> ahave: if they are listed, then they are loaded
[15:40] <boritek>  if i click it further: another message: cannot login to database?
[15:41] <abarbaccia> boritek: you need to setup you db connection and dont worry about the uPNP right now
[15:41] <boritek> boritek, how can i do that?
[15:42] <abarbaccia> did you just ask youself?
[15:42] <ahave> abarbaccia, what do i need to loof for in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file
[15:43] <abarbaccia> ahave: that's what defines how the driver is loaded - which modules and what arguments. is lircd running? (ps aux | grep lirc)
[15:43] <ahave> abarbaccia, i get 2 lines outputed after (ps aux | grep lirc)
[15:43] <ahave> one with root, the other with my username
[15:44] <abarbaccia> ahave: well, you only need one running and it should be root
[15:44] <abarbaccia> so kill that other one
[15:44] <ahave> the one as root is /usr/sbin/lircd--device=/dev/lirc0
[15:44] <boritek> abarbaccia, how can i set up  the db connection?
[15:45] <ahave> abarbaccia, is that correct?
[15:45] <abarbaccia> boritek: run mythtv-setup
[15:45] <boritek> i have already done that
[15:45] <abarbaccia> ahave: is that the only argument that's being passed to it?
[15:45] <boritek> that is when it tells the error
[15:45] <boritek> that i mentioned above
[15:46] <abarbaccia> boritek: okay, there's a file somewhere that it reads for the initial connection. let me try to locate where it is
[15:46] <ahave> abarbaccia, yes. i believe so.. let me see if i can post the output somewhere
[15:47] <abarbaccia> boritek: i can't seem to find it.... but theres a file somewhere that spells out the the initial connections
[15:47] <abarbaccia> boritek: its in /usr or /home i think
[15:48] <boritek> abarbaccia, /home/you/.mythtv/mysql.txt?
[15:48] <ahave> abarbaccia, http://www.rafb.net/p/IjCxY979.html
[15:49] <abarbaccia> boritek: yes
[15:49] <boritek> ok, what shal i do now,
[15:49] <boritek> ?
[15:50] <abarbaccia> ahave: that file is not loading the configuration file. it needs to be like "lircd --device=/dev/lirc0 /path/to/myremote.conf"
[15:50] <abarbaccia> boritek: make sure that has the correct information
[15:50] <ahave> abarbaccia, ok. so i need to chanage that in the /etc/lirc/hardware/conf file?
[15:50] <boritek> abarbaccia, i dont know, coz i never used mysql earlier
[15:50] <abarbaccia> ahave: that would be the best way
[15:50] <boritek> it came with the mythtv package
[15:51] <abarbaccia> boritek: sorry - i gotta run. but you gotta get mythtv what it needs to login to the database
[15:51] <ahave> abarbaccia, is there another way?
[15:51] <abarbaccia> ahave: you can test by just starting the daemon by yourself
[15:51] <abarbaccia> ahave: i gotta run but you can just type "sudo lircd <arguments
[15:51] <abarbaccia> >"
[15:52] <boritek> i guess i have to setup mysql somehow first. but i dont know how
[15:52] <abarbaccia> boritek: it's all part of the game
[15:52] <ahave> does it just take the .conf as an argument?
[15:53] <abarbaccia> ahave: man lircd - but yes
[15:53] <ahave> abarbaccia, ok. thanks alot!
[15:54] <boritek> abarbaccia, is there a setup GUI for mysql?
[16:02] <rhpot1991> ahave: you don't have any imon in MCC?
[16:02] <ahave> correct
[16:02] <rhpot1991> you need imon for the onboard receiever if you choose mce it will look for an external usb dongle
[16:03] <ahave> hmm
[16:03] <ahave> so why is imon not listed? and how can i add?
[16:03] <rhpot1991> are you actually seeing /dev/lirc0 when you choose mce?
[16:04] <ahave> under modules? or config?
[16:04] <rhpot1991> under /dev/lirc0
[16:04] <rhpot1991> cd /dev/
[16:04] <ahave> oh
[16:04] <rhpot1991> ls -la lirc*
[16:04] <ahave> one sec
[16:06] <ahave> http://www.rafb.net/p/9OSXhO58.html
[16:06] <rhpot1991> if you sudo cat /dev/lirc0
[16:06] <rhpot1991> and hit buttons on your remote does it show junk on the screen
[16:06] <ahave> yup
[16:07] <ahave> and with the knob
[16:07] <rhpot1991> ok, now run irw
[16:07] <ahave> but if i run irw
[16:07] <rhpot1991> and see if anythign happens
[16:07] <ahave> it does not
[16:07] <ahave> nothing
[16:07] <rhpot1991> what happens then just empyt, but it continues to run?
[16:07] <ahave> it just sits there
[16:07] <rhpot1991> ok good
[16:07] <rhpot1991> do sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then go to your home dir and do sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 lircd.conf
[16:08] <rhpot1991> follow that, do your buttons and knob
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then copy that to /etc/lirc
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then restart
[16:08] <ahave> so i must remap my entire remote?
[16:08] <ahave> is there not a config file already made/
[16:09] <rhpot1991> there might be, but its easier to just make one instead of messing with ones that may or may not work
[16:09] <rhpot1991> I can give you mine, but who knows if it has all the buttons, and who knows if it will work since I used lirc_imon
[16:09] <rhpot1991> it only takes like 5 minutes to map your buttons
[16:09] <ahave> ok, i will just do it then
[16:10] <ahave> is there a guide on how to map?
[16:10] <rhpot1991> then you can go in and tweak .lircrc
[16:10] <rhpot1991> check your home dir for .lircrc
[16:10] <rhpot1991> I think in your version you don't have a .lirc folder yet
[16:11] <ahave> hmm
[16:11] <ahave> i see a lircd.conf
[16:11] <ahave> but it is empty
[16:12] <rhpot1991> in your home directory?
[16:12] <ahave> yes
[16:12] <rhpot1991> do you have a mythtv user on there?
[16:12] <ahave> use
[16:12] <ahave> yes
[16:12] <rhpot1991> run this
[16:12] <rhpot1991> locate .lircrc
[16:12] <rhpot1991> and go check the places that points at
[16:12] <ahave> not found
[16:12] <rhpot1991> whatever user runs the frontend, thats where you want to change it
[16:13] <rhpot1991> check /home/mythtv then
[16:13] <rhpot1991> there should be one right in the home dir, and one within the .mythtv directory inside that users home dir
[16:13] <ahave> mythtv has nothing in the folder
[16:13] <rhpot1991> .files are hidden
[16:13] <ahave> oh
[16:13] <rhpot1991> do a ls -la .lir*
[16:14] <ahave> ok, i have one in mythtv
[16:15] <rhpot1991> check and see if there is one in your home dir as well
[16:15] <rhpot1991> if mlg makes one there you may need to copy it over
[16:15] <rhpot1991> or symlink the 2
[16:15] <ahave> there is not one in the home dir
[16:16] <rhpot1991> you *might* need to run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator as mythtv then
[16:16] <rhpot1991> sudo su mythtv
[16:16] <rhpot1991> will let you switch to them
[16:17] <ahave> ok, i ran it
[16:18] <ahave> i still need to map my button tho
[16:18] <rhpot1991> you need to do the irrecord first
[16:18] <rhpot1991> and move the lircd.conf into /etc/lirc
[16:18] <ahave> so let me understand what i am doing..
[16:18] <ahave> i need to run irrecord to generate the lircd.conf?
[16:19] <rhpot1991> yep
[16:20] <rhpot1991> then move it to /etc/lirc/
[16:20] <rhpot1991> then run mlg
[16:20] <rhpot1991> then reboot
[16:20] <ahave> mlg being mythbuntu-lircrc-generator?
[16:21] <ahave> as mythtv
[16:21] <rhpot1991> I'm not positive on that, but based on the fact its in your mythtv users dir I would do so
[16:21] <ahave> ok
[16:22] <ahave> so what is the use of this file? http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb
[16:23] <rhpot1991> if you had mceusb that would be fine and dandy
[16:23] <rhpot1991> but you have the IR in the antec fusion
[16:23] <rhpot1991> go buy a mce usb if you want to use that
[16:24] <ahave> ah, ok
[16:24] <ahave> so it is a combonation of what IR i am using and the remote?
[16:24] <ahave> (which makes sense)
[16:24] <rhpot1991> yes
[16:25] <rhpot1991> and all that is is a file that someone made already
[16:25] <rhpot1991> you are just doing the same for your setup
[16:25] <rhpot1991> instead of downloading one
[16:25] <ahave> ok, i understand why i am using irrecord now
[16:25] <ahave> thanks
[16:25] <ahave> do you know of a guide on how to use irrecord?
[16:27] <rhpot1991> first stop lirc
[16:27] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/lirc.d/lirc stop
[16:27] <rhpot1991> then
[16:27] <rhpot1991> sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 <name of config>
[16:27] <rhpot1991> and just follow what it tells you
[16:27] <rhpot1991> make sure you remember to do your knob
[16:27] <rhpot1991> I had to redo mine cause I kept forgetting it
[16:28] <ahave> set the knob as volume?
[16:28] <rhpot1991> you just name buttons for now
[16:28] <rhpot1991> so name it knob_left and knob_right or something
[16:28] <ahave> ah, ok
[16:28] <rhpot1991> then you make that be volume in .lircrc later
[16:28] <ahave> is modifying the .lircrc difficult?
[16:28] <rhpot1991> mythbuntu-lircrc-generator will do some of those for you, you will prob need to go in and modify if you named buttons oddly
[16:29] <rhpot1991> or make a copy of the volume for your knobs
[16:29] <rhpot1991> nope, its pretty easy, there is lots of documentation out there as well
[16:29] <rhpot1991> I gotta run, good luck
[16:29] <ahave> thanks!
[16:32] <MythbuntuGuest97> how do i keep the app bar from showing when myth is running?
[16:34] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, turn off compiz
[16:34] <superm1> or use something like devilspie to keep it on top
[16:39] <TelnetManta> guys, how do I fix this? " Please set the environment variable HOME or MYTHCONFDIR"
[16:43] <MythbuntuGuest97> in mcc i have auto start mythtv standalone session upon boot, i didnt realize compiz was running, how do i disable it?
[16:47] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well is this a normal mythbuntu install?
[16:47] <superm1> or what is this?
[16:47] <superm1> I was assuming that it wasn't
[16:47] <superm1> :)
[16:47] <superm1> TelnetManta, depends whne you are getting that
[16:47] <MythbuntuGuest97> yes it was, then upgraded to hardy, i had to fix some things like sound, then video was black and white, but no thats working
[16:48] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well that shouldn't be happening then..
[16:48] <superm1> did you launch some other stuff at the same time as myth?
[16:48] <superm1> it usually should absolve itself
[16:49] <MythbuntuGuest97> no i havent done anything except select generic kernel and delete the 386 kernel because of sound issues
[16:49] <mpontillo> So, I wanted to set up my mythbuntu machine to have an Xvnc display, :1. It went mostly OK, until I realized that mythfrontend gets started automatically on all X sessions.... really, I only want mythfrontend to run on my main display. As a workaround, I hacked this up in /usr/bin/mythfrontend: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6190/
[16:50] <mpontillo> Can anyone think of a better way to do this? I don't really want to be modifying that every upgrade...
[16:50] <MythbuntuGuest97> then unselected nvidias driver rebooted, then reselected nvidias driver to get color back again, but the app bar was ontop even before i did any of that
[16:50] <mpontillo> Or maybe a more 'supported' solution...
[16:50] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, if you close myth and open it back up,, does that still happen?
[16:51] <MythbuntuGuest97> just a minute let me check
[16:51] <superm1> mpontillo, hm
[16:51] <superm1> well it shouldn't autostart on all displays necessarily, depends on what session you log into i'd expect
[16:51] <mpontillo> ah, right. it didn't start until I launched gnome-session
[16:52] <mpontillo> still, I guess for some reason I only expected it to launch with Xfce
[16:52] <MythbuntuGuest97> yeah the bar is still on top
[16:52] <superm1> mpontillo, well any session that obeys ~/.config/autostart rules will start it
[16:52] <superm1> it was done that way to be extensible if someone doesn't want Xfce
[16:53] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, hm interesting..
[16:53] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well so as to rule it out, can you pastebin your process list?
[16:53] <superm1> lets see what's running
[16:53] <superm1> that might be interfering
[16:53] <mpontillo> is there a use case for auto-starting it on a display other than :0.0, though? I mean, do people actually run mythfrontend on a remote display?
[16:53] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok, command?
[16:54] <sebrock> since 0.21 and a mythweb update from rep. I cant see my music or videos in MythWeb... http://localhost/music tells me "An unknown module was specified"
[16:54] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, ps aux
[16:54] <sebrock> but I have music in my /modules under mythweb
[16:54] <sebrock> any ideas?
[16:54] <superm1> mpontillo, well not everyone runs :0.0 as their primary display
[16:54] <superm1> say that you log out, and the session doesn't finish exiting by the time a new one starts
[16:54] <superm1> it will be on :1.0 then
[16:55] <TelnetManta> superm1: Im getting it when starting the backend
[16:55] <superm1> how?
[16:55] <superm1> via the init script?
[16:55] <mpontillo> Ah, I have never seen it be anything except :0.0 on my system. I thought when you log out it kills and restarts the X server and it comes back on :0
[16:55] <superm1> that's the goal when you log out
[16:55] <superm1> some drivers aren't so nice (i've seen it happen on both nvidia and fglrx)
[16:56] <superm1> so you can't make the assumption that someone is running on display :0
[16:56] <superm1> also if you do a fast user switch
[16:56] <mpontillo> gotcha. any other way to detect a local display?
[16:56] <superm1> the new user gets display :1.0
[16:56] <MythbuntuGuest97> http://pastebin.com/m10ffda11
[16:56] <MythbuntuGuest97> thats cool, im never sure what i can copy and paste from vnc
[16:57] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, try ps aux | cat
[16:57] <superm1> instead
[16:57] <superm1> since  a lot got cut off
[16:57] <superm1> mpontillo, hm.
[16:58] <mpontillo> sounds like the only thing I can do is set a DONTSTARTMYTH environment variable or similar in my script to start Xvnc, and check for that
[16:59] <mpontillo> but I'd still have to check in a wrapper script to avoid messing with the distributed mythfrontend script
[17:00] <MythbuntuGuest97> http://pastebin.com/m8befb85
[17:01] <superm1> mpontillo, try setting IGNORE_NOT to 1
[17:02] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, you've got a bunch of gnome services on there too
[17:02] <superm1> that's a bit odd...
[17:02] <superm1> like tracker
[17:02] <superm1> and printer support
[17:02] <superm1> and power manager
[17:02] <superm1> is that intended?
[17:03] <mpontillo> ha - IGNORE_NOT - nice hack. wonder why that's there. thanks, will try
[17:03] <superm1> IGNORE_NOT is in place for a bunch of user and group management checking
[17:04] <MythbuntuGuest97> after upgrading to hardy, ubuntu desktop was sellected in desktop role, i dont know why or even if it was before, i dont need it, its only a frontend, with no keyboard or anything attached, the only way i have to control it is ssh, vnc, irremote, and my nintendoDS
[17:05] <MythbuntuGuest97> can i deselect ubuntu desktop from destop role?
[17:05] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, it was selected during the upgrade!?.. That's Bad (TM)
[17:05] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, as a side note, you'll need to file a bug on that with /var/log/update-manager/*
[17:06] <TelnetManta> superm1: Should I set MYTHCONFDIR to /home/mythtv or /home/mythtv/.mythtv ????
[17:06] <MythbuntuGuest97> im not positive, i hadent done anything with it for 4-5 months so i dont remember if it was on there before or not
[17:06] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, you can unselect ubuntu desktop though yes, and then in synaptic a bunch should be 'autoremovable'
[17:06] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well it shouldn't be turned on from an upgrade
[17:06] <TelnetManta> i tried the first and the backend still wont start
[17:06] <superm1> if it did, we have a big problem
[17:06] <superm1> TelnetManta, you still didn't respond to my question
[17:06] <superm1> how are you starting the backend
[17:06] <TelnetManta> didnt see it sry
[17:07] <TelnetManta> via an init script
[17:07] <superm1> okay so something like sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start
[17:07] <superm1> the home directory is set to /home/mythtv/ by default
[17:07] <superm1> it gets set in that init script
[17:08] <TelnetManta> superm1: I start it in my script like this: /usr/local/bin/mythbackend -d 2>$LOGDIR/mythbackend.err >$LOGDIR/mythbackend.log
[17:08] <superm1> TelnetManta, use the packaged init script
[17:08] <superm1> its got multiple workarounds for behavior like you are experiencing
[17:09] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok i have the synaptic package manager open, how do i go about 'autoremoving"?
[17:10] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, there is a filter or something similar in the left side
[17:10] <superm1> for "autoremovable"
[17:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> the buttons are (Sections, Status, Origin, Custom Filters, and Search Results)
[17:12] <superm1> yeah I forget which one has the autoremovable one
[17:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> then there is a scrolling list with lots of catagories but no autoremove in it
[17:12] <superm1> hm
[17:13] <superm1> the same one with the "local or obsolete"
[17:13] <superm1> is where it shows up
[17:13] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok status, has local or obsolete
[17:13] <superm1> but no auto removable...
[17:13] <superm1> hm
[17:14] <TelnetManta> somehow I screwed the system up while trying to edit some chan numbers via mythweb.....
[17:14] <MythbuntuGuest97> the choices are (All, Installed(local or obsolete), installed(upgradable), Not installed, not installed(residual config)
[17:14] <TelnetManta> how can I get the packaged init script without installing the whole package? remember my install is from source.
[17:18] <superm1> TelnetManta, i didn't remember that your install is from source
[17:18] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, then they aren't showing up as autoremovable
[17:19] <superm1> you can search for gnome stuff though
[17:19] <superm1> and start removing items like that
[17:19] <superm1> if it doesnt want to take out mythbuntu-desktop it should be safe to remove
[17:19] <superm1> TelnetManta, you should do your install from a local debuild if you want all the advantages of the package but the newer stuff by installing from source
[17:23] <TelnetManta> tx superm1
[17:23] <TelnetManta> I have some complications if you remember from waaay back
[17:24] <TelnetManta> I have some patches that I have to run. I think I read online that theres been some patches made for the packaged version though but I havent tested it yet.
[17:25] <mpontillo> guess I shouldn't start pidgin on the X session I'm experimenting with. ;) Anyway, something sets IGNORE_NOT back to 0. So that hack doesn't work. =(
[17:26] <MythbuntuGuest97> how about gamin? can i remove it?
[17:27] <MythbuntuGuest97> it brings up a whole list of stuf its going to remove, xfdesktop4 is one of them
[17:28] <MythbuntuGuest97> maybe i shouldnt, thunar is one of them
[17:28] <MythbuntuGuest97> i probably shouldnt remove anything that will remove gdm either, eh?
[17:35] <majoridiot> FIREWIRE TESTERS NEEDED -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647 -- please help out the community by testing the new firewire primer... your current mythtv installation will not be affected or changed in any way.
[17:36] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, anything that wants to remove mythbuntu-desktop , xfce stuff
[17:36] <superm1> gdm
[17:36] <superm1> no dont take out
[17:36] <superm1> but other stuff is fine
[17:36] <superm1> TelnetManta, well i'm saying you can apply your patches to the package's source
[17:36] <superm1> and build it into nice debs
[17:37] <superm1> mpontillo, hm
[17:41] <mpontillo> well, this worked: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6192/  (different modification from the dislpay check)
[17:42] <sebrock> whats up with using sudo in the beta?
[17:42] <sebrock> "unable to resolve host: ubuntu"
[17:43] <superm1> sebrock, did you have a failed install?
[17:43] <superm1> or better yet
[17:43] <superm1> did you select vnc during install?
[17:43] <superm1> there was a bug with it....
[17:43] <sebrock> yes I installed vnc server
[17:43] <superm1> sebrock, there was a major  bug in it
[17:43] <sebrock> what kind of bug is tat?
[17:43] <sebrock> lol
[17:43] <superm1> that crashed the installer
[17:43] <superm1> and it didn't finish the rest of the install steps
[17:44] <sebrock> well the installed didnt crash I think
[17:44] <sebrock> mm ok
[17:44] <superm1> it might not look like it did
[17:44] <superm1> but it crashes on VNC
[17:44] <superm1> if you can redo your install and *not* pick vnc
[17:44] <sebrock> so redo without vnc then
[17:44] <superm1> and just install it afterward
[17:44] <superm1> you should be fine
[17:44] <sebrock> ok
[17:45] <MythbuntuGuest97> well im removing about 500meg of gnome stuff, hope i didnt accidently sellect something important, think the system will run a little faster after this? It seems is not able to decode as fast as it did before
[17:46] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, it should improve some.
[17:46] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, just so long as nothing xfce is picked
[17:46] <superm1> and nothing myth* is picked
[17:46] <superm1> you should be safe
[17:46] <MythbuntuGuest97> thats what i selected to keep, so i should be good
[17:47] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, you can also change your myth viewing profile
[17:47] <MythbuntuGuest97> by the way, i appreciate the help
[17:47] <superm1> to slim instead
[17:47] <superm1> that might help with decoding
[17:47] <superm1> no prob
[17:51] <staind9383> so my recordings won't play... not really sure when they stopped working, they were working a few days ago after i fixed my firewire stopped working issue
[17:52] <mpontillo> superm1: well, I just looked at the ~/.config/autostart/mythtv.desktop file you mentioned. Might be an even simpler solution in there: there is an X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=<boolean> line. If Xfce doesn't pay attention to that...!
[17:52] <superm1> haha
[17:52] <superm1> really?
[17:52] <mpontillo> we'll see ;)
[17:52] <staind9383> right now i select one and the screen blinks like it is giong to play video, but returns to the recordings screen instantly
[17:53] <superm1> firewire eh?
[17:54] <superm1> majoridiot, ^
[17:54] <staind9383> yea, he was helping me the other night
[17:54] <majoridiot> jes?
[17:54] <staind9383> i had to restart the cable box and the htpc in order to get everything up and functional again
[17:54] <staind9383> so i get back home today the box is not working
[17:54]  * majoridiot remebers that, staind9383
[17:55] <majoridiot> staind9383, describe "not working"
[17:55] <staind9383> hah
[17:55] <staind9383> well
[17:55] <staind9383> live tv, not working, but recordings are not working either
[17:55] <majoridiot> so likely not a firewire issue then... or recording would play ok.
[17:55] <staind9383> again... this is out of nowhere.. i swear i didnt touch anything
[17:56] <staind9383> right
[17:56] <staind9383> these were all wroking before
[17:56] <majoridiot> ok... standard rap: what are your frontend and backend logs showing when it errors?
[17:56] <staind9383> i have some good luck it seems
[17:56]  * majoridiot remebers helping fix it
[17:57] <staind9383> first thing i checked when live tv didnt work was plugreport, etc, but that shows OK, and the firewire tester works
[17:57] <mpontillo> Sweet - X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false did the trick! Xfce ignores it, so it does exactly what I want - start on my primary display but not my Xvnc display running gnome-session. Seems it's exactly the same as un-checking the "Enabled" box in System > Preferences > Sessions.
[17:58] <mpontillo> (which I would have done first, if I thought it would be specific to GNOME)
[17:58] <majoridiot> staind9383, speaking of which, i need your help testing the new firewire primer ASAP.  i know it's a lot to ask, when yer box is outta whack, but it's critical time-wise and i PROMISE it will not hurt anything.
[17:58] <staind9383> as a matter of fact, live tv is working...
[17:58] <staind9383> so its only recorded tv now
[17:58] <staind9383> blah
[17:58] <majoridiot> staind9383, but in the meantime, look @ your frontend and backend log for errors.
[17:58] <staind9383> ok, yea send me the script / insturctions
[17:58] <majoridiot> LOL
[17:59] <majoridiot> maybe yer database wasn't up yer?
[17:59] <majoridiot> yet
[17:59] <staind9383> dont know
[17:59] <staind9383> i restarted the front end... looking throught htelogs now
[17:59] <majoridiot> staind9383, well, at least it's back up now.
[17:59] <staind9383> 2008-03-29 13:58:21.873 AFD Error: avformat err(-1) on av_open_input_file call.
[18:00] <majoridiot> staind9383: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647
[18:02] <staind9383> my handle on the forums is c3rb3rus... name was registered on IRC
[18:02] <staind9383> well freenode
[18:02] <staind9383> you know
[18:03] <staind9383> 2008-03-29 13:58:21.873 Couldn't open decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/2750_20080329010000.mpg
[18:03] <staind9383> does not sound good
[18:06] <majoridiot> staind9383,  does that recording exist and can you open it with mplayer?
[18:07] <staind9383> as i browse the items in the recordings screen i get these: 2008-03-29 14:06:14.202 NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/2750_20080329010000.mpg
[18:07] <staind9383> for each one
[18:08] <staind9383> -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv<PHONE_NUMBER> 2008-03-08 23:00 2740_20080308210000.mpg
[18:08] <staind9383> yea its there
[18:09] <majoridiot> playable outside of myth?
[18:10] <superm1> mpontillo, could you document this somewhere useful for folks?
[18:10] <superm1> on one of the wikis perhaps
[18:10] <superm1> or in the FAQ
[18:10] <mpontillo> sure, I'll see if I can find a good spot
[18:11] <staind9383> majoridiot: the show i was tryin to watch there does not play in mplayer... another recording that i know worked last week shows only green but i can hear sound...
[18:11] <staind9383> :-/
[18:12] <majoridiot> hm.  now that is strange.
[18:12] <majoridiot> no auto updates or anything since the last time it worked?
[18:13] <staind9383> i dont think so
[18:13] <majoridiot> hm.
[18:14] <staind9383> VLC does a similar thing on the vid files that i know worked.... only with NES style red / green alternate lines
[18:14] <majoridiot> try recording a minute or so of something and see if it will, and then if it will play back.
[18:14] <majoridiot> hm.  if vlc does it, it makes me suspect the video driver.  vlc uses its own codecs, afaik.
[18:15] <majoridiot> are there any strange errors in your Xorg.0.log?
[18:16] <staind9383> what dir is that in?  /etc/X11?
[18:16] <majoridiot> /var/log/
[18:17] <staind9383> there are no timestamps, but it just looks like initialization to me
[18:20] <majoridiot> staind9383, look for lines starting with EE and WW.  EE are the most important, as they are errors.
[18:21] <staind9383> none with EE
[18:21] <staind9383> one WW toward the end
[18:21] <staind9383> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBVisuals" is not used
[18:22] <staind9383> and a few other warnings about vid modes not being used
[18:25] <majoridiot> well, you can remove/comment out the "AddARGB..." line from your xorg.conf.  that much is apparent.
[18:26] <majoridiot> did you try making a new recording and watching it?
[18:26] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok finished removing all those packages and rebooted, still have the app bar
[18:27] <staind9383> i was looking for the live tv snippet that i was watching before and couldn't find it
[18:27] <staind9383> and now i cant getback into live tv.. i see lots of scrambled colors tehn it exits saying error encountered while displaying video
[18:27] <staind9383> in the syslog i see lots of these from yesterday into today:
[18:28] <staind9383> Mar 28 07:17:01 gearbox /USR/SBIN/CRON[8235]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[18:28] <staind9383> Mar 28 07:36:05 gearbox -- MARK --
[18:28] <staind9383> Mar 28 07:39:01 gearbox /USR/SBIN/CRON[8380]: (root) CMD (  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 |
[18:28] <staind9383> xargs -r -0 rm)
[18:28] <staind9383> and i saw a random segfault for mythfilldatabast
[18:28] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, lol
[18:28] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, i guess you can't win?
[18:29] <superm1> i'm not sure what else could be affecting that?
[18:29] <superm1> gnome-session particularly is gone right?
[18:30] <MythbuntuGuest97> just check for gnome-session in the package manager?
[18:30] <superm1> yah
[18:32] <MythbuntuGuest97> its not selected
[18:32] <staind9383> its like mythtv just does not want to stay functional for me... it has so much potential... :(
[18:32] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, hmmp
[18:33] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well next solution i can say then -
[18:33] <superm1> blow away your changed settings for this user accnt
[18:33] <superm1> in ~/.config
[18:33] <superm1> and ~/.local
[18:33] <superm1> so swithc into .config
[18:33] <superm1> and look in Autostart
[18:33] <superm1> make sure nothing crazy there
[18:33] <superm1> and then remove the xfce directories from in there
[18:33] <superm1> it rebuilds them on boot
[18:34] <MythbuntuGuest97> sorry you lost me, what should i do?
[18:34] <superm1> cd ~/.config
[18:34] <superm1> and then ls Autostart
[18:34] <superm1> and then ls
[18:34] <superm1> and see what's around
[18:34] <superm1> blow away anything but the .config/Autostart stuff
[18:34] <staind9383> so something is wrong with the codec that is rendering regular TV it seems... HD live tv plays ok... switching to a regular channel gives me sounds but messed up colors
[18:35] <MythbuntuGuest97> autostart has fusesmbnet.desktop and mythtv.desktop in it
[18:36] <superm1> take out the fuse one
[18:36] <superm1> that might just be it possibly :)
[18:36] <MythbuntuGuest97> how?
[18:37] <MythbuntuGuest97> i figured it out with rm
[18:37] <superm1> ya
[18:38] <staind9383> i'm tempted to reinstall all over again :-/
[18:38] <MythbuntuGuest97> config has (autostart, gtk-2.0, tracker, user-dirs.local, xfce4-session, compiz, Thunar, user-dirs.dir, and xfce4)
[18:42] <superm1> compiz?
[18:42] <superm1> interesting..
[18:42] <superm1> i didnt see it in your process list
[18:42] <superm1> is it installed/
[18:44] <MythbuntuGuest97> i think its one of the things i uninstalled, let me check
[18:44] <superm1> okay well nonetheless, you can blow away all those directories but the autostart
[18:44] <superm1> and then hit <ctrl><alt><backspace>
[18:44] <superm1> and let it log back in
[18:44] <MythbuntuGuest97> there are still some compiz stuff in synaptic i can remove them right?
[18:44] <superm1> urd
[18:45] <superm1> yes
[18:48] <MythbuntuGuest97> what is the command for removing directories?
[18:49] <staind9383> rmdir?
[18:50] <MythbuntuGuest97> thats it but doesnt work if there is anything in the directory
[18:50] <majoridiot> rm -rf /directory
[18:50] <staind9383> rm -R?
[18:50] <majoridiot> but be careful with that.
[18:50] <staind9383> i'm tempted to rm -rf /
[18:50] <staind9383> stupid video not working
[18:51] <staind9383> haha
[18:51] <MythbuntuGuest97> maybe ill just use thunar so i dont screw something up
[18:51] <majoridiot> staind9383, that'll fix everything... for good.  but not in a good way. ;)
[18:51] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, good idea.
[18:51] <superm1> when getting mythbuntu live disks built one of the first steps is to cleanup the directory,v well i mis-set one of the variables, and it accidently did rm -rf /
[18:51] <superm1> when it should have done
[18:51] <superm1> rm -rf $DIRECTORY/
[18:51] <superm1> yeah oops.
[18:52] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, it's a good idea to go with what you feel safe with.  you may need to sudo thunar for files/dirs you need permission for.
[18:52] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok how about the two files, user-dirs.dirs and user-dirs.local? should i remove them as well?
[18:52] <staind9383> yea, that might be a prob
[18:52] <staind9383> what is thunar?
[18:52] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, sudo thunar will run as root and allow deletion of files you do not have permissions for.
[18:53] <MythbuntuGuest97> i have permission for stuff in ~
[18:53] <majoridiot> thunar is the file manager mythbunu installs default
[18:53] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, probably not for everything- including mostly the hidden system files.
[18:54] <MythbuntuGuest97> well it worked this time, so thats all that matters, what about the two files superm1? do i delete them as well?
[18:54] <staind9383> so i think taht soemthing got corrupted with whatever codec is doing standard def video... or just video in general.. i just played one of the media files on another comp just fine
[18:54] <majoridiot> the newest binary for mythprime is posted if anyone cares to try it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647
[18:55] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, which worked?
[18:55] <superm1> deleting which particularly?
[18:55] <MythbuntuGuest97> i mean that i was able to delete in thunar without sudo
[18:56] <MythbuntuGuest97> so you want me to delete the two files as well and leave just the autostart directory in ,config?
[18:57] <superm1> so just delete anything but the autostart
[18:57] <superm1> in .config
[18:58] <MythbuntuGuest97> no im not sure, will ctrl + alt + backspace work in vnc or will it just restart the computer im on?
[18:58] <MythbuntuGuest97> um, i mean NOW im not sure
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest97> ill just reboot, no confusion then
[18:59] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97-
[19:00] <majoridiot> open a terminal on the remote computer-
[19:00] <majoridiot> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:00] <majoridiot> to restart the X server, et.al.
[19:01] <staind9383> majoridiot: dumb question... what flags whould i use on the tar command to extract.. i can never remember
[19:01] <majoridiot> should just be able to double-click it in thunar
[19:02] <staind9383> no dice, says unknown application
[19:02]  * majoridiot will add the untar commands to the post in a minute...
[19:02] <staind9383> open with rather
[19:03] <majoridiot> tar xvf <filename>
[19:05] <mishehu> does anybody know what the preferred mode for the ati remote wonder would be?  should I use the kernel /dev/input drivers or should I use lirc_atiusb?
[19:08] <majoridiot> mishehu, have you looked at this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=603120
[19:09] <staind9383> sooo when i try to run the file it tells me no such file or directory... even though i am in the right directory, and the file has the right permissions.... I fee like i'm going nuts
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> the app bar is still there
[19:12] <majoridiot> staind9383, no such file doing what?
[19:12] <staind9383> sean@gearbox:~$ ./mythprime -v
[19:12] <staind9383> -bash: ./mythprime: No such file or directory
[19:12] <mishehu> majoridiot: I have not, but am now.  though I don't know if I should be trusting anything a majoridiot says ;-)
[19:13] <majoridiot> mishehu, wise to be cautious ;)
[19:13] <staind9383> majoridiot: did you ever get my email?
[19:13] <majoridiot> staind9383, ls -l ./mythprime from the directory it is in.  what is the result?
[19:14] <staind9383> -rwxr-xr-x 1 sean sean 14788 2008-03-29 13:24 ./mythprime
[19:14] <majoridiot> staind9383, yes i did, thank you.
[19:14] <staind9383> -la, but same difference
[19:14] <majoridiot> hm.  and ./mythprime -h does what?
[19:15] <mishehu> alright, off to see if forcing the tvformat for this POS fglrx driver will get me some *colors* on my tv display.
[19:15] <staind9383> mishehu: colors are overrated...
[19:15]  * mishehu pees on ATI's crappy ass linux support.  Also, prays to the gawds of computing to allow the winds to favor radeonhd...
[19:15] <mishehu> staind9383: sure, if you're a dog or some other colorblind creature ;-)
[19:16] <staind9383> mishehu: if you like, we can switch, i get nintendo style green / ren plaid screens now
[19:16] <mishehu> it'd be funny if parrots were colorblind.
[19:16] <mishehu> staind9383: oh, you mean the "blow out the cartridge screens" ?
[19:16] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[19:16] <staind9383> yea
[19:16] <staind9383> majoridiot: still no such file or directory
[19:17] <mishehu> staind9383: damn we're old man.  today's kids have no knowledge of how hard we had it with the old NES
[19:17] <Aquahallic> when ripping a dvd can you go straight to an AVI file????
[19:17] <mishehu> my old NES played games better when I *didn't* push them down, only slid them in.
[19:17] <staind9383> mishehu: never have to blow on a DVD do they
[19:17] <majoridiot> staind9383, ok... from a terminal, run thunar
[19:17] <mishehu> staind9383: or smack a DVD around at all either
[19:17] <MythbuntuGuest97> i have to blow on my nintendoDS sholder buttons to get them to work sometimes, does that count?
[19:18] <majoridiot> staind9383,  then, navigate to the directory with the new mythprime and double-click to run it.  see what the output in the terminal is.
[19:18] <mishehu> MythbuntuGuest97: not quite, youngin!
[19:18] <mishehu> back in my day we didn't even have DS
[19:18] <mishehu> and we were HAPPY
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest97> im 28, just underprivelaged as a child
[19:18] <mishehu> heh
[19:18] <staind9383> majoridiot: failed to execute mythprime
[19:18] <mishehu> MythbuntuGuest97: 2 more years to the grave for you!
[19:18] <staind9383> same error, no sich file or dir
[19:18] <staind9383> such
[19:19] <mishehu> I'm hoping that NTSC-M is for north america, otherwise this is going to be a fun day of "guess the NTSC format"!
[19:19] <majoridiot> sec.
[19:19] <staind9383> majoridiot: is there something just completely f'd with my system?
[19:20] <majoridiot> hm.  just downloaded and unpacked it again (tested it before posting) and everything works fine here.
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest97> well i have the app bar set to autohide , i guess ill just have to be happy with that
[19:21] <majoridiot> mishehu, NTSC-M is north americs
[19:21] <majoridiot> america
[19:22] <majoridiot> staind9383, send me your email address and i will send you the source and instructions on how to compile.
[19:28] <mishehu> fsck, still no color
[19:33] <ajh> mishehu, don't worry too much, even if you got colour with NTSC it wouldn't be the right ones.
[19:34]  * majoridiot diplomatically recommends nvidia cards
[19:35] <staind9383> anyone know the proper use ofthe scp command?
[19:35] <mpontillo> staind9383: what are you trying to do?
[19:35] <majoridiot> stain man scp
[19:35] <staind9383> copy a file from one server to another
[19:36] <mishehu> majoridiot: doesn't help if it's an onboard chipset, and the machine is in a chassis that requires half-height cards.
[19:36] <ajh> use sftp if you're unabld to figure out cp. :)
[19:36] <mpontillo> use it just like cp, but add user@host before each filename
[19:36] <mpontillo> sorry, user@host:<filename>
[19:36] <staind9383> isee
[19:36] <mpontillo> *each remote filename
[19:37] <mishehu> hmm looks like mythbuntu has a rather old fglrx on it
[19:37] <majoridiot> but essentially: scp <source file> user@ip.address.of.target:/target/directory or scp user@ip.address.of.target:/target/directory /file /local/path/to/copy/to
[19:38] <staind9383> gotcha
[19:39] <mpontillo> Something up with the wiki? http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV fails to load for me. Strangely, http://help.ubuntu.com/ works fine...
[19:41] <mpontillo> scratch that - works in Linux/Firefox for me, but not Windows/Firefox... wonder if it's just me?
[19:44] <Aquahallic> folks... during a rip of a dvd to a local file... my rip just dies.. where can I find the log for archiving??? I've looked in the frontend log and see nothing there.....
[19:44] <staind9383> majoridiot: i tried dling that file and upzipping in a VM version of 8.04 i have on my xp box and i get al error related to the app
[19:44] <staind9383> so it seems like something is completely wrong with this htpc
[19:44] <majoridiot> staind9383, it looks that way. :(
[19:45] <majoridiot> Aquahallic, look in the backend log?
[19:45] <staind9383> i dont know what the hell happened,... but if mythtv is gonna be a serious option for me i think that i need to learn a little more about how to manage a linux install / administer the system.. i cant just have it stop workign all of a suddfen on me
[19:46] <majoridiot> staind9383, it's really odd that it just stopped working all of the sudden and for no reason.
[19:46] <mpontillo> Aquahallic: for me it's in the frontend log; if I do a 'grep libdvd /var/log/mythtv/*' I get some information
[19:46] <Aquahallic> hmmm... k.. lemme look...:)
[19:47] <Aquahallic> ty
[19:47] <staind9383> i scheduled some recordings via mythweb, but i didnt change any settings there
[19:47] <staind9383> whens 8.04 come out
[19:48]  * majoridiot just downloaded and unpacked the binary on a windoze box, scp'd it to a mythbox and all is well in the garden on this end.
[19:49]  * staind9383 is going to reinstall and update to current right away before setting evcerything up
[19:50] <c3rb3rus5> to better match what i am in the forum
[19:51] <Aquahallic> well.. I see the log there.. but I can't tell what's going on...
[19:52] <c3rb3rus5> so should i install the 7.10 mythbuntu then update to .21, or install the latest beta / alpha of 8.04
[19:52]  * majoridiot recommends a fresh 8.04 beta, if you are reinstalling
[19:52] <mpontillo> Aquahallic: what do you mean by "just dies"? does it start and then die, or does it never start? I think I had to set a pathname to rip to somewhere before it would work... can't recall exactly though
[19:53] <majoridiot> that way you are sure there should be no package probs... i.e. mythvideo/mythdvd etc.
[19:53] <Aquahallic> it starts... goes for a while.. then just exits out
[19:53] <Aquahallic> I've pathed it out to my backend share for where to rip it
[19:54] <Aquahallic> I can see it starting to put the file in the folder I've specified
[19:54] <mpontillo> ah. well, did you try a different DVD? not sure how you would tell if it's getting I/O errors reading from the drive...
[19:55] <Aquahallic> yeah.. that's what I'm wondering.. I'm trying another one now
[19:55] <Aquahallic> that one had some scratches on it
[19:56] <mpontillo> any clues in dmesg or /var/log/syslog?
[19:57] <grytpype> q for the group...  I have a new mythbuntu box, everything works except when I try to view video on either my PVR or Firewire cards, it fails after about 2 seconds.
[19:57] <grytpype> The PVR shows DMA TIMEOUT errors, the Firewire just fails.
[19:57] <grytpype> I have a VIA chipset which was probably a mistake.
[19:57] <c3rb3rus5> grytpype: does firewire prime right?
[19:58] <grytpype> Is there a way to turn off DMA for those cards?  Or should I just get a new mobo with an NVIDIA chipset?
[19:58] <grytpype> yes, it primes.
[19:58] <grytpype> With the firewire, plugreport and firewire_tester are 100% successful, and test-mpeg2 works.
[19:59] <grytpype> but when I try to stream video from either the firewire or PVR card, it fails after 2 sec.
[19:59] <majoridiot> 'lo grytpype :)
[20:00] <grytpype> hey majoridiot
[20:00] <grytpype> i will pm you my email address... am going out for the evening so the test might be on sunday for me
[20:00] <c3rb3rus5> majoridiot: it seems like one vid file is screwing me up... after it shows nothing works again... on a fresh restart things work
[20:01] <c3rb3rus5> except that mythprime file... that is still not found
[20:01] <majoridiot> c3rb3rus5, maybe try uninstalling and reinstalling the proprietary vid driver?
[20:01] <majoridiot> grytpype, thank you.
[20:03] <Aquahallic> mpontillo: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 860817
[20:03] <Aquahallic> what's the sr0 device??
[20:04] <Aquahallic> getting this error while ripping a dvd... Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 860817
[20:04] <mpontillo> Aquahallic: Wasn't sure myself: http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/1827.html -- "SCSI CD-ROM 0"
[20:04] <mpontillo> Sounds like you've narrowed it down between the DVD (too scratched?) and the drive (can't read DVDs in general)
[20:05] <Aquahallic> yeah.. that dvd was TORCHED.. Kids movie.. I'm trying to rip 'em to an AVI so they can just select them from the videos on myth.. so they CAN'T scratch them...LOL
[20:07] <mpontillo> bummer. yeah, my son is 4 weeks old and I've already started ripping kids movies - I've seen how kids handle DVDs!!
[20:08] <majoridiot> sr0 is generally a sata cd/dvd
[20:24] <Aquahallic> wow... I just did a hdparm -t on my cdrom drive....  Timing buffered disk reads:   10 MB in  3.24 seconds =   3.08 MB/sec
[20:24] <Aquahallic> that's pretty slow isn't it????
[20:27] <mishehu> ok, I think I just revealed that my problem with the video out on my system is *not* due to the crappy ass fglrx drivers...
[20:27] <EvilGuru> Aquahallic: 1x is 150kb/s
[20:27] <mishehu> even when I boot up and go into the bios, it's black and white.
[20:27] <EvilGuru> So around 20x speed, seems reasonable
[20:27] <mpontillo> my DVD drive works fine and got: Timing buffered disk reads:    6 MB in  3.08 seconds =   1.95 MB/sec
[20:28] <EvilGuru> It depends where it starts reading from, the outer sectors will be a lot faster
[20:28] <Aquahallic> yeah
[20:28] <EvilGuru> 1.95mb is quite slow for a DVD
[20:28] <Aquahallic> this thing keeps bombing ripping dvds with IO errors
[20:29] <mpontillo> tried it again, (presumably after the drive already spun up, it's in the other room) and it's faster: Timing buffered disk reads:    8 MB in  3.40 seconds =   2.35 MB/sec
[20:29] <EvilGuru> My okay-ish drive with cheap media can burn at 8x (10 MB/s)
[21:20] <EvilGuru> Is the quality of S-Video (for TV out) much better than that of composite?
[21:24] <mpontillo> EvilGuru: yes, I have noticed a *huge* difference between the two.. YMMV
[21:25] <EvilGuru> As currently I have my PAL-I TV at 1024x768 and while it is not bad, it is not crisp
[21:25] <EvilGuru> so I was considering getting an S-Video => SCART and connecting it that wat
[22:10] <c3rb3rus5> sooo if i reinstall mythbuntu.. is there a way to save the recordings that I have now?
[22:15] <mishehu> c3rb3rus5: I'm sure there are, but it all depends on how your mythtv is set up on your network.
[22:15] <c3rb3rus5> one box, both backend and front
[22:16] <mishehu> and database?
[22:17] <c3rb3rus5> same box
[22:17] <c3rb3rus5> yea
[22:17] <mishehu> that's a bit trickier then.
[22:17] <mishehu> you'd need to do the following:
[22:18] <mishehu> 1.  make a dump of mythconverg database with mysqldump
[22:18] <mishehu> 2.  Copy that dump and all recording files to a removable drive.
[22:18] <mishehu> 3.  Reinstall mythbuntu, get it working again
[22:18] <mishehu> 3.  Restore the files to the recordings directory
[22:18] <mishehu> oops that's 4
[22:18] <c3rb3rus5> haha
[22:18] <c3rb3rus5> well
[22:18] <mishehu> 5.  Restore the database from the dump
[22:19] <c3rb3rus5> what if i have /var/lib as its own partition
[22:19] <c3rb3rus5> wil that work?  just backup the db to there?
[22:19] <mishehu> c3rb3rus5: sure.  you just have to make sure you don't do any oopsies like repartition or have it reformat that partition
[22:19] <mishehu> heh
[22:19] <c3rb3rus5> i think that you might not be able to set /var/lib as a mount point without reformatting...
[22:20] <c3rb3rus5> think tiat i might have tried somehting similar last time
[22:20] <mishehu> then you'll want to do steps 2 and 3
[22:22] <mishehu> dammit mythbuntu already has a group 103 in use.
[22:22] <mishehu> klog.
[22:22] <mishehu> screws up my samba server access...
[22:51] <exec87> hi, i'm using mythbuntu, and i dont get the VNC working... i'm activating it in the mythbuntu control, setting the pw... pushing apply
[22:51] <exec87> and nothing happens... when i start the config the next time its disabled again
[22:52] <EvilGuru> If PAL has a resolution of 768x578 how can the nvidia driver output 1024x768 to my PAL tv
[23:23] <ajh> Hey, anyone know offhand where the font size for the setup menu text is stored?
[23:24] <exec87> can anyone give me his first line from ist etc/apt/source.list ?
[23:24] <exec87> the one with the cdrom?
[23:26] <sebrock> I'm having trouble installing a LCDproc from cvs... when I try ./autogen I get a message about AC_PROG_LIBTOOL and it just exits
[23:26] <sebrock> so I cant create a makefile
[23:48] <ahave> hello room, can anyone tell me if this optical drive is supported in linux?