[07:21] <arrenlex> ardchoille: I assure you that creating a text file, running a five-minute command, and then removing it is faster, and better :)
[07:21] <weijie902> Shadow_mil: lol
[07:22] <weijie902> Shadow_mil: my phone is qwerty and im thinking of making my laptop dvorak
[07:22] <agliv5> eternalswd, yes trying to install avidemux 2.3.0 and libasound is 1.0.11-7ubuntu3.  I don't think that there is a newer version....
[07:22] <ardchoille> arrenlex: Which I didn't know about, which is why I told lgc to talk to you :)
[07:22] <lgc> arrenlex, I remember I went through dire straits installing that package, but I don't remember exactly why (I was in a hurry to make a presentation for a meeting, and I even ended up using Scribus in ...Windoze (pardon me!!) because it was the only version that worked well).
[07:23] <aaron> Do any of you guys know where I can get a fortran compiler, and a pascal compiler?
[07:23] <sosdiode> hi all
[07:23] <lgc> arrenlex, do you know how to purge my system of debian packages without reinstalling everything?
[07:23] <someone3> hi
[07:23] <sosdiode> myspace.com/twithmilk.com
[07:23] <arrenlex> lgc: Yep. Do you run edgy or dapper?
[07:23] <sosdiode> chec it out
[07:23] <sosdiode> my music
[07:24] <lgc> arrenlex, Dapper.
[07:24] <eternalswd> agliv5, edgy or dapper?
[07:24] <ryjyd> hello fello ubuntu users
[07:24] <SurfnKid> !ati
[07:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:24] <someone3> aaron, google it up
[07:24] <someone3> (them)
[07:24] <sosdiode> myspace.com/twithmilk.com
[07:24] <arrenlex> lgc: First of all, go into /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the debian repositories, if there are any.
[07:24] <lgc> arrenlex, di.d that already
[07:24] <clever> !lirc
[07:24] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[07:24] <arrenlex> lgc: Secondly, create the file /etc/apt/preferences (it probably won't exist) and put this in it: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8001/b
[07:24] <agliv5> eternalswd, compiling doesnt work because of an error in conjunction with spidermonkey... spent the better part of the day trying to get it fixed to no avail...
[07:25] <arrenlex> lgc: Then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:25] <arrenlex> lgc: Then remove that file when you're done.
[07:25] <zoexii> hello, I need help making Ctl+mouseclick=rightmouseclick (I have a one button trackpad unfortunately)
[07:25] <agliv5> eternalswd, I can never keep straight which is which ;) Im on 6.10
[07:27] <ryjyd> right, so we cant have all this quiet...
[07:27] <lgc> arrenlex, it's purring... needs to download 431 MB!
[07:28] <mike01> http://www.powertyping.com/typing_test/typing_test.shtml :D
[07:28] <ryjyd> I'm trying to add a module to a bootup list (not sure on the verbage there...)
[07:28] <Polygon89> Falstius, thanks, there was an option in my bios about enabling suspend to ram,  even though i could do it in windows (kinda) with it disabled. But anyway, after i come out of it, gnome complains that unsafely removed my external usb hard drive,
[07:28] <ryjyd> I found a soundcard module that doesn't work on bootup, I have ot run it manually... I want to stop doing that, essentially
[07:28] <lgc> arrenlex, meanwhile, would you mind explaining me such fine trick?
[07:28] <someone3> xeon, is it working?
[07:28] <arrenlex> !pin | lgc
[07:29] <ubotu> lgc: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[07:31] <CapRiCoRN^80> hi can i install ubuntu edgy on sun sparc system ?
[07:31] <sosdiode> myspace.com/twithmilk.com
[07:31] <Apixx> Can someone help me? I've got a little graphics problem... I want to put my monitor in 1152x864 resolution @ 85Hz , but it doesn't seem to be allowed by ubuntu :( And it's supported by my monitor. I'm using nvidia-glx drivers @ 6600GT... Also Synaptic doesn't allows me to download nvidia-setting, it prompts to remove the glx driver :-O
[07:31] <Polygon89> Falstius, anyway thanks for your help. Ill figure out the "unsafe removal" thing later
[07:31] <arrenlex> CapRiCoRN^80: No. Ubuntu only supports amd64, i386 and powerpc officially. You could install debian, though; it supports a lot more architectures.
[07:32] <CapRiCoRN^80> well i have seen some thing related to it . wait i tell u the link
[07:32] <arrenlex> CapRiCoRN^80: And debian is essentially ubuntu.
[07:32] <ryjyd> Apixx, have you tried the proprietary nvidia driver?
[07:32] <Apixx> ryjyd: I'm with it
[07:32] <pk_butu> I am newbie.....can any body help me how to run 2 linux distribution (ubuntu & centos) in one PC/hardisk...
[07:33] <sosdiode> #hydrogenaudio
[07:34] <ryjyd> k... might have to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (I think that's it)
[07:35] <zYe> what is some good video editing software?
[07:35] <agliv5> zYe avidemux :) or mencoder :) :)
[07:35] <Jordan_U> pk_butu: The installer for the distributions should let you deal with that, just make one partition for each
[07:35] <zYe> which one ? :)
[07:36] <agliv5> zYe: depends on what you're looking for... generally mencoder is better but harder to use...
[07:36] <zYe> which is more complex and have more features
[07:36] <Jordan_U> pk_butu: GRUB will automatically detect the other distro and everything should just work :)
[07:36] <zYe> mencoder then
[07:36] <zYe> has*
[07:36] <agliv5> zYe mencoder definately
[07:37] <zYe> is it in the mutimedia universe?
[07:37] <zYe> i dont see it O_o
[07:37] <agliv5> zYe what do you want to do? perhaps I can give you some insite?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> agliv5: Does mencoder do editing or just encoding?
[07:37] <zYe> i just want it in case i run into something in the future
[07:37] <agliv5> zYe, mencoder is part of mplayer
[07:37] <arrenlex> zYe: mencoder is a linear editor. You're probably looking for a nonlinear editor.
[07:37] <emxsi> how do i reconfigure the network card. I am getting an IP from DHCP but can't ping nor browse... Happened after I upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06? ty
[07:38] <agliv5> I would recomend compling yourself, then it works better
[07:38] <Apixx> it supports only 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 and 1600x1200
[07:38] <Apixx> and only at 85Hz
[07:38] <Apixx> is there anyway to overwrite the dependency and force install the nvidia-settings ?
[07:38] <ryjyd> not sure if anyone saw it: I have a module for my soundcard that does not load up on boot for ATI IXP... tok me a while, but I figured out what it was and how to load it... I have sound now, but I am force to re-run the command to do that... how do I get it to work at the start?
[07:38] <agliv5> mencoder does everything he he he
[07:38] <arrenlex> zYe: I.E. Mencoder is exactly what it says -- an encoder. i.e. you can reencode a movie, or apply video filters, or cut it, or pull it up, or other technical things. But you can't splice a clip of your horse onto a clip of your daughter and add shiny text.
[07:38] <arrenlex> zYe: Also, mencoder is commandline
[07:38] <zYe> UGHHHHh
[07:38] <agliv5> Jordan_U got that?
[07:39] <eternalswd> agliv5, if you download http://cs.wheaton.edu/~mbucy/files/spidermonkey.tar.bz2 and untar to your home directory, you can add --with-jsapi-include=/home/`echo $USER`/js and avidemux should compile.  let me know if it doesn't
[07:39] <zYe> ok, im looking for something like inal cut pro or adobe premire
[07:39] <agliv5> zYe any other questions?
[07:39] <arrenlex> zYe: As to those, Linux is sadly lacking. :(
[07:39] <zYe> >_<
[07:39] <zYe> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[07:39] <arrenlex> zYe: You could try blender's movie compositor. Or heroine.
[07:39] <Jordan_U> agliv5: I don't think so, what was I supposed to get?
[07:39] <ryjyd> Apixx: that may be all you can work with unless you try the linux-made drivers rather than the proprietary...
[07:40] <zYe> i might try premire on wine i guess
[07:40] <agliv5> eternalswd, why does spidermonkey have to be in the home dir?
[07:40] <QuantumKilla> zYe: Have you tried Kino?
[07:40] <arrenlex> zYe: No, heroine is the association... the editor is called cinelerra
[07:40] <zYe> dunno how that will go though O_o
[07:40] <arrenlex> zYe: http://i.iinfo.cz/r/photos/video/cinelerra.png
[07:40] <zYe> i have no idea, kinda new to the linux world :)
[07:40] <ademan> hey, my friend has a usb keyboard on his computer, and GRUB doesn't recognize it at boot time, and as a result he can't select his operating system at boot time.  I presume this has something to do with USB drivers not being loaded or something, is there anything we can do about this?
[07:40] <arrenlex> zYe: This closer?
[07:40] <agliv5> Jordan_U, that it is recomended to compile yourself and that mencoder does everything ;)
[07:40] <arrenlex> zYe: This is a new screenshot http://www.videohelp.com/toolsimages/cinelerra_250.jpg
[07:40] <zYe> yea but man that is hella ugly :)
[07:41] <QuantumKilla> http://www.kinodv.org/
[07:41] <Jordan_U> agliv5: Yes, I got that :)
[07:41] <vmware> hey guys can anybody help em with my screwed up edgy upgrade from breezy badger
[07:41] <eternalswd> agliv5, doesn't just so you could follow the config line.  You can put it wherever you want.  in face if you've installed firefox-dev you might be able to do --with-jsapi-include=/usr/include/firefox/js but I couldn't remember if I downloaded it separately
[07:41] <zYe> hmmm
[07:42] <eternalswd> *fact in place of face
[07:42] <kercyr> I just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy...  But, Xinerama stopped working.
[07:42] <CapRiCoRN^80> arrenlex: check this
[07:42] <CapRiCoRN^80> http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[07:42] <eternalswd> kercyr, check your xorg.conf?
[07:42] <agliv5> eternalswd, I've already got spidermonkey installed and running in /usr/local/spidermonkey and using the --with* option, but something is still wrong...
[07:42] <CapRiCoRN^80> Supports UltraSPARC T1
[07:42] <kercyr> eternalswd, It's the same as before the upgrade.
[07:43] <eternalswd> agliv5, spidermonkey is outdated, that's why id doesn't work
[07:43] <eternalswd> kercyr, is it loaded as a module?
[07:43] <kercyr> "it"?
[07:43] <vmware> when trying to ugrade initramfs it needs volumeid but volumeid could not be upgraded as /sbin/vol_id already exists
[07:43] <agliv5> eternalswd, I've already tried firefox and mozilla devs... It partially works, but not completely...
[07:44] <CapRiCoRN^80> its mentioned in on http://www.ubuntu.com/server that it Supports UltraSPARC T1
[07:44] <eternalswd> kercyr, xinerama AFAIK it's a kernel module
[07:44] <agliv5> eternalswd, then I'll download from the source you suggested and re-install :)
[07:45] <kercyr> eternalswd, I don't think so...
[07:45] <agliv5> zYe, it appears you're still having problems, what's up?
[07:46] <CapRiCoRN^80> i asked that can we install ubuntu on sun sparc systems
[07:46] <CapRiCoRN^80> n i got answer no
[07:46] <CapRiCoRN^80> but i think we can
[07:46] <CapRiCoRN^80> its mentioned in on http://www.ubuntu.com/server that it Supports UltraSPARC T1
[07:46] <CapRiCoRN^80> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Sparc
[07:46] <ademan> CapRiCoRN^80: it may only be for the server install
[07:46] <rangans> guys can anybody help me with synaptic upgrade to edgy problem
[07:46] <CapRiCoRN^80> ok
[07:47] <arrenlex> CapRiCoRN^80: That appears to be a server system. Don't expect to run gnome on it.
[07:47] <ademan> rangans: use the update manager, or just fresh install, there's a lot of dapper->edgy upgrade problems, but if you do it with the update manager it's supposed to be pretty decent
[07:47] <eternalswd> kercyr, not sure what you need to do then :(
[07:47] <arrenlex> CapRiCoRN^80: Whereas with debian, I know for sure that all the packages are ported.
[07:47] <rangans> I am getting an error that vol_id could be upgraded as dpkg is trying to overwrite /sbin/vol_id which is in the same paaaackage
[07:48] <rangans> i tried to do sudo apt-get install volumeid
[07:48] <rangans> then I tried dpkg -i --force-yes volumeid
[07:48] <rangans> they all fail with the same error
[07:48] <kercyr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4558/ is my xorg.conf
[07:48] <rangans> since this package is reported broken synaptic would not upgrade anymore either
[07:49] <eternalswd> kercyr, did you recompile fglrx?
[07:50] <Fedge> I'm trying to install 6.10 and i get this error: "timeout writing for DMA, drive not ready for command"
[07:50] <eternalswd> kercyr, at least the kernel module?
[07:50] <booduck> wuip
[07:50] <kercyr> eternalswd, I've tried replacing fglrx with radeon and ati... Neither worked.
[07:51] <kercyr> (but no, I didn't recompile it)
 CapRiCoRN^80: That appears to be a server system. Don't expect to run gnome on it.. then wat will i get ?
[07:51] <QuantumKilla> rangans: This is a total shot in the dark but did you try apt-get -f --fix-broken?
[07:51] <Pntkl> Hi
[07:51] <eternalswd> kercyr, whenever you install a new kernell, you need to compile the kernel module portion against the new kernel.  maybe it'll work after that
[07:52] <booduck> d3ck4
[07:52] <booduck> d3ck4
[07:52] <CapRiCoRN^80> coz i m thinking of installing ubuntu on Sun Blade 1500 workstations
[07:52] <CapRiCoRN^80> coz i m thinking of installing ubuntu on Sun Blade 150 workstations
[07:52] <arrenlex> CapRiCoRN^80: If you want to use them for servers, go ahead.
[07:53] <arrenlex> CapRiCoRN^80: I've never done it, though. If the internet says you can, I guess you can. Good luck.
[07:53] <kercyr> eternalswd, that makes sense if I were working on my gentoo machine, but I don't understand that for ubuntu... as far as I know, I never had to compile anything.
[07:53] <agliv5> eternalswd, getting the same error as with the mozilla-dev version of spidermonkey let me pastebin...
[07:53] <rabidphage> hi.. how can i monitor the progress of a copy task that has already been commited other than watching the LED blink
[07:54] <rangans> quuantumkilla, I had not I tried now it looks like I am getting the syntax wrong it comes back with a list of options and fix-broken isnt one of them
[07:54] <QuantumKilla> what about just -f
[07:54] <eternalswd> kercyr, okay, you're using the repositories version?
[07:54] <rangans> Quantumkilla, sorry I got your changing your nickname
[07:54] <kercyr> I was.
[07:54] <rabidphage> hi.. how can i monitor the progress of a copy task that has already been commited other than watching the LED blink
[07:54] <QuantumKilla> lol, s'okay np
[07:54] <eternalswd> kercyr, okay, I haven't a clue then why xinerama isn't working
[07:55] <kercyr> we're in the same boat.
[07:55] <AzMoo> I'm trying to give my user write access to /var/www via a 'www' group that I've created. My user is a member of the group and I did a sudo chown -R root:www /var/www and sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www but if I try and open that directory it gives me a permission denied error.
[07:55] <d3ck4> booduck = wizard
[07:56] <agliv5> eternalswd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4559/
[07:56] <QuantumKilla> rangans: try: 'sudo apt-get install --fix-broken'
[07:56] <booduck> wizard?
[07:56] <QuantumKilla> honestly i'm not a pro with this stuff or anything
[07:57] <QuantumKilla> so take what I say with a grain of salt, lol
[07:57] <rangans> quantumkilla, you mean sudo apt-get -f that comes with same problem but I did try sudo apt-get -f install volumeid and this is what I get
[07:57] <rangans> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/volumeid_093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[07:57] <rangans>  trying to overwrite `/sbin/vol_id', which is also in package udev
[07:57] <eternalswd> agliv5, was that with the js folder from me in /usr/local/spidermonkey?
[07:58] <eternalswd> agliv5, does ./configure --with-jsapi-include=/usr/include/firefox/js  give the same error?
[07:58] <rangans> quantumkilla,me neither but greatly appreciate your help
[07:59] <silya> Hi all! I need FPinger alternative in linux. Any suggestions?
[07:59] <QuantumKilla> hahaha, wish i could help more.. sorry
[08:00] <agliv5> eternalswd, I think exactally the same, but I'll check...
[08:01] <cizra> Hello
[08:01] <agliv5> eternalswd, exactally the same error...
[08:01] <rangans> quantumkilla, np thaks for your time
[08:02] <cizra> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent - can this CD do install on LVM2?
[08:03] <eternalswd> agliv5, try copying the js folder directly from the tarball to /usr/include/firefox/ and try again.  I am not getting that error.
[08:04] <AzMoo> Looks like you have to re-login for your groups to be updated. Makes sense I guess.
[08:10] <agliv5> eternalswd, still getting the same error; however I am using the mozilla-dev and not the firefox-dev at the moment but I don't think that would make a difference... could it be that it's not working because the files have wrong permissions because of their location?
[08:12] <eternalswd> agliv5, mine are all root rw-r--r-- in the js folder
[08:13] <eternalswd> agliv5, firefox-dev may actually be more recent than mozilla, I'm not sure, regardless, the js folder in the tar file is definitely good to go
[08:13] <lgc> arrenlex, ardchoille, Jordan_U
[08:14] <agliv5> eternalswd, let me try the firefox-dev... but I did so yesterday and I seem to recall that it didn't work...
[08:15] <lgc> ardchoille, the downloading from *pure* Ubuntu sources is progressing quite slow. It'll take a couple of hours more to complete. Since it's 1:15 A.M. local time, I think I will retreat to my chambers to pay a visit to Morpheus.
[08:17] <Alarm> hello, when i sometimes recet my computer (cause it crashes) , linux start to make an fsck on a fat32 partition, and as a result to erase sometimes data from it , although those files werent being used at the time that the system was reseted. why does that happen ? (for example. i had a compressed file that i moved from ubuntu ext3 partition to fat32 . after several hours something happened and the system crashed. when reseting and getting again i
[08:17] <Alarm> nto the system, i saw that the compressed file was missing)
[08:17] <lgc> ardchoille, thank you and good night from Mexico City.
[08:18] <yellow> hey guys where is it that synaptics save all its package files ?
[08:18] <high-freq> heya guys....um i just did a distro-upgrade and now sound don't work...is there a command i do to restore it?
[08:19] <eternalswd> agliv5, have you tried what I suggested in copying my js folder directly to /usr/include/firefox
[08:20] <eternalswd> agliv5, I have a feeling I overwrote the headers there with a newer version
[08:20] <weijie902> yellow: try using "locate .deb", mabye it will work
[08:20] <weijie902> yellow: but do apt-get clean first
[08:20] <weijie902> or cd / and then find | grep deb
[08:20] <yellow> weijie902, what does apt-get clean do?
[08:21] <weijie902> yellow: clears out previously downloaded deb files (from apt)
[08:21] <high-freq> for alsa all i see is alsactl and alsamixer....is there somethin else i need to install in order to get this sound working again.  It was working before the distro-upgrade
[08:21] <weijie902> if i apt-get install foobar foobar.deb is stored somewhere
[08:22] <weijie902> apt-get clean deletes foobar.deb as its not really needed anymore
[08:22] <weijie902> like clearing a web browser's cache
[08:23] <yellow> thanks weijie902 , exactly what i'm after
[08:23] <yellow> :)
[08:23] <weijie902> np
[08:24] <donovan> help...for some reason whenever i try to go into the Terminal i get an error message "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[08:24] <weijie902> yellow: im not sure whether the cache and synaptic's "download deb files only but do not install them" location are the same
[08:25] <agliv5> eternalswd, yes but with the mozilla-dev and it didn't work... currently installing firefox-dev and will do the same...
[08:25] <yellow> weijie902, uhm so how to clear out both ?
[08:25] <yellow> lol
[08:25] <yellow> :P
[08:25] <weijie902> umm... do apt get clean first
[08:26] <weijie902> then search for deb files, maybe this wll give you the location of the synaptic cache
[08:26] <weijie902> i dont know where it is, thats why im suggesting that
[08:26] <yellow> the only deb files are the ones i downloaded manually so it's all good now
[08:27] <mysta> I'm trying to install totem-gstreamer firefox plugin, but it will not let me. Aptitude has a v flag next to the file?? what does this mean?
[08:27] <chavo> the cache is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:27] <donovan> anyone?
[08:27] <chavo> apt-get autoclean will remove all but the latest versions
[08:28] <yellow> thanks chavo , one more to do
[08:29] <kerpal> anyone know how to trouble shoot a problem mounting an sata drive in gparted? i keep getting a input/output error
[08:29] <yellow> ok, that's it, now i can download that big p0rn file now
[08:29] <yellow> :P
[08:29] <yellow> thanks to chavo and weijie902
[08:29] <yellow> ^^!
[08:29] <weijie902> yellow: no problem
[08:30] <donovan> im getting the same error message trying to open the shared folders window...
[08:30] <yellow> hehe, that cleared out about 300 megs of gunk
[08:30] <yellow> ^^!
[08:30] <donovan> someone please aid me! :P
[08:30] <chavo> donovan, if anyone knows they'll help
[08:30] <agliv5> eternalswd, still getting the same problem... could it be a problem that can be fixed with Linux_All_DBG.OBJ or export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/spidermonkey ?
[08:30] <donovan> lol i know
[08:30] <donovan> sorry
[08:31] <donovan> just tired and annoyed....
[08:31] <mysta> !wmv | mysta
[08:31] <kerpal> anyone?
[08:31] <storm> In 6.10, how can I make disk icons appear on the desktop as in 6.06?
[08:32] <eternalswd> agliv5 if you're using firefox-dev, it should be /usr/include/firefox/js not /usr/local/spidermonkey, what are you passing to ./configure?
[08:32] <KuHlii> hmmm... i still seem to be having issues with my wireless in 6.10
[08:32] <KuHlii> the wireless network gets picked up by network manager, however fails to connect
[08:33] <okgo> hello, has somebody problems with not having minimize/maximize/close buttons with compiz and beryl in feisty?
[08:33] <KuHlii> seem to be getting the error ieee80211_crypt_tkip: disagrees about version of symbol ieee80211_unregister_crypto_ops in system log
[08:33] <CodyLoco> I actually got Ubuntu live CD to boot using safe mode and a ton of tweaks
[08:33] <CodyLoco> but now I have a desktop wallpaper and a cursor I can't move
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:33] <KuHlii> also ieee80211_crypt_tkip: Unknown symbol ieee80211_unregister_crypto_ops
[08:34] <agliv5> eternalswd, my last post was a typo... the last ./cofigure was with /usr/include/firefox/js/ after coping from the tarball...
[08:34] <CodyLoco> Anyone have any ideas as to what to do?
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[08:35] <CodyLoco> hehe
[08:35] <CodyLoco> its shweet imo
[08:36] <donovan> lol
[08:36] <agliv5> eternalswd, I have previously installed and compiled spidermonkey using following guide "http://gopalarathnam.com/weblog/2007/01/08/building-spidermonkey-on-ubuntu.html" so perhaps some system links are wrong...
[08:36] <CodyLoco> woooaa wrong channel sorry guys
[08:36] <ardchoille> donovan: hahaha
[08:36] <storm> donovan: It's considered bad form to laugh at your own comments :-)
[08:36] <donovan> pfft
[08:36] <donovan> not when im making fun of myself
[08:37] <storm> Ah, I see
[08:37] <donovan> wondered why i couldnt open some of Breezy's stuff like Terminal and Shared Folders...seems like it has to do with the new kernel i had just put in...lol
[08:37] <donovan> probably documented somewhere...oh, ok ill shut up now
[08:38] <ardchoille> donovan: That'll teach you to mess around with the kernel.
[08:38] <donovan> :P
[08:38] <donovan> thank god the old one was still available...anyone know how to get rid of the new one from the bootloader/system?
[08:38] <zoexii> hello! how can I find the block device for my dvd burner (attached via usb to ide cable)?
[08:39] <illriginal> My sound keeps shuttin off...
[08:39] <illriginal> how can i keep my sound workin forever without any problems?
[08:40] <johan__> is default ubuntu fluxbox bare by default how come i dont have a default menu
[08:40] <eternalswd> agliv5, okay echo your $PATH and then export all of it except /usr/local/spidermonkey then try configuring again
[08:40] <rajiv9> Hi need a little help with bluetooth dialup
[08:41] <dezinezan> hello
[08:41] <johan__> hillo
[08:42] <dezinezan> hi there
[08:42] <rajiv9> help
[08:42] <dezinezan> ahm, im looking for some help..
[08:42] <someone303> hi
[08:42] <johan__> just state problem in question
[08:42] <dezinezan> its probably not hard, but i wasnt aware my mom bought a computer with linux gnome on it
[08:42] <rajiv9> I am using Kbuntu
[08:42] <dezinezan> im trying to get a dialup connected to it
[08:43] <dezinezan> i have a wireless router.. but its not working as planned.. so we will have someone come out and look it up for us
[08:43] <johan__> whats wrong with router
[08:43] <dezinezan> but my main question, at the moment is how do i get internet working using a dial-up
[08:43] <dezinezan> with Gnome
[08:43] <dezinezan> ?
[08:43] <illriginal> can someone plese help me get my sound working?
[08:44] <dezinezan> illriginal, how long has sound nto been working?
[08:44] <johan__> look at alsamixer illriginal
[08:44] <illriginal> nevermind, i did it on alsamixer :P
[08:44] <johan__> did what
[08:44] <dezinezan> anyway, johan
[08:44] <dezinezan> is there anything you could say or do to help me out with this?
[08:44] <agliv5> eternalswd, still getting the same error :(
[08:45] <johan__> it's all about getting the modem working
[08:45] <eternalswd> agliv5, can't explain it...where is the source from?
[08:45] <dezinezan> i havent ever used linux or gnome, or a mac computer overall, and this is a pain in the ass, because we have everything working correct..
[08:45] <dezinezan> we just dont know HOW exactly to get a new connectino going
[08:45] <agliv5> eternalswd, what source?
[08:45] <dezinezan> *connection
[08:45] <AmaroqWolf> lol illriginal. dezinezan, how come the wireless router isn't working? Are you using a desktop right now or a laptop?
[08:46] <eternalswd> agliv5, for avidemux, did you get a tarball or download via svn?
[08:46] <dezinezan> desktop
[08:46] <johan__> if modem works connection will be easy to setup
[08:46] <dezinezan> 2desktop
[08:46] <dezinezan> when i try to install wireless router.. i put the disc in and go through the process..
[08:46] <agliv5> eternalswd, good question... hang on...
[08:46] <AmaroqWolf> Do you have a wireless network card? Or is your wireless router connected to the desktop via ethernet?
[08:46] <sts> hello folks. I have trubles installing mysql on my ubuntu server 6.10 system.
[08:47] <AmaroqWolf> sts, you want a mysql server?
[08:47] <dezinezan> it closes my internet connections, and then i have to REmake it inorder for it to even connect.. so the process fails, and it doesnt go all the way through everything
[08:47] <sts> AmaroqWolf: yes
[08:47] <AmaroqWolf> sudo apt-get install mysql-server I think.
[08:47] <dezinezan> this computer im on now looking for help on how to get the gnome comp to internet is running windows xp home
[08:48] <johan__> this is confusing
[08:48] <agliv5> eternalswd, originally from the hompage... looking it up, but since then I downloaded from http://mirror.in.th/ubuntu/archive/pool/multiverse/a/avidemux/
[08:48] <AmaroqWolf> Are you running ubuntu, dezinezan? My ubuntu auto-detected my ethernet card.
[08:48] <dezinezan> any suggestions?
[08:48] <sts> i installed it with apt-get install mysql-server, afterwards i changed the password using mysqadmin, but when i try to restart it i get:  mysqld got signal 4; his could be because you hit a bug. It is also possible that this binary or one of the libraries it was linked against is corrupt, improperly built or misconfigured. .....
[08:48] <dezinezan> umm
[08:48] <dezinezan> yes
[08:48] <dezinezan> i just had sister shut it down
[08:48] <dezinezan> and its that
[08:49] <eternalswd> agliv5, is that where you got the deb that you wanted to install as well?
[08:49] <dezinezan> Ubuntu is what it says
[08:49] <AmaroqWolf> Okay. Are you trying to get your computer to network wirelessly with the router, or are you just going to connect it with an ethernet cable?
[08:49] <AmaroqWolf> sts, I don't know how to help you with that error.
[08:49] <agliv5> eternalswd, yes ;) I found the site where I originally downloaded... it's http://download.berlios.de/avidemux/avidemux_2.3.0.tar.gz
[08:49] <dezinezan> umm.. honestly im not sure.. ANYWAY that will get internet on BOTH computers will do for now
[08:50] <dezinezan> my dad used to always install all this stuff.. but my dad left long time ago
[08:50] <AmaroqWolf> Well, do both computers have network cards? They'll each have what looks like a phone line plug, but larger, if they do. And do they both sit near the router?
[08:50] <dezinezan> and my step dad we having problems with, he doesnt want to help at all
[08:50] <dezinezan> so i want to get it working for my sister
[08:51] <dezinezan> um..
[08:51] <dezinezan> yes
[08:51] <dezinezan> they both have that plug in
[08:51] <dezinezan> and they are sitting right next to each other
[08:51] <dezinezan> on a new desk we got
[08:51] <AmaroqWolf> Do you have cables for that plug in that can reach the router?
[08:51] <BaB00> hello
[08:51] <dezinezan> umm
[08:52] <BaB00> guys..i have a question
[08:52] <Madpilot> BaB00, just ask, don't ask to ask :)
[08:52] <felixhummel> BaB00, just ask
[08:52] <felixhummel> ;)
[08:52] <dezinezan> i got a phone cord and pluged it into the phone outlit like a friend suggrested and then plugged the other end into the comp
[08:52] <dezinezan> to try to get dial-up
[08:52] <dezinezan> and for the last 3 hours  i have been looking and calling people
[08:52] <dezinezan> :(
[08:52] <n4cht> hey guys, may i ask a question?  </sarcasm>
[08:52] <AmaroqWolf> Well, do you have ethernet cables to plug those computers into the router?
[08:53] <BaB00> how do i connect thru a direct connection (com1 - win) to an equipment
[08:53] <BaB00> ?
[08:53] <dezinezan> you guys have been the most help i have ever had, one ladie i coudnt even understand on the phone because of her accent..
[08:53] <donovan> dezinezan is the connection dialup or high-speed?
[08:53] <ryan__> what karma zachtib?
[08:53] <dezinezan> its highspeed dsl
[08:53] <donovan> hmm
[08:53] <dezinezan> but im not exactly sure how to get it on THE OTHER COMPUTER
[08:53] <dezinezan> as well as this one
[08:53] <donovan> well i had a problem when i installed my cable modem on my router
[08:53] <dezinezan> at the SAME time
[08:54] <donovan> ohh
[08:54] <AmaroqWolf> Do you have cables like this? http://blog.hiwired.com/archives/ethernet%20cable%201%20thumb-thumb.jpg
[08:54] <donovan> so it's already working on one, you just want to set the other one up on it?
[08:54] <AmaroqWolf> they don't have to be that color. Just that shape.
[08:54] <dezinezan> yes
[08:54] <dezinezan> but one is mac
[08:54] <dezinezan> and this one is.. well it uses windows xp
[08:54] <dezinezan> like im used too
[08:54] <dezinezan> and i have no idea how to use mac
[08:54] <donovan> ok are you trying to use wireless or wired?
[08:54] <AmaroqWolf> They're ethernet cables. If they fit, they'll work.
[08:54] <dezinezan> ahm
[08:55] <n4cht> dezinezan, you'd need a switch or a router.  (another piece of hardware) since most DSL modems double as single-port routers, you can likely go the cheaper route and just pick up a switch for about $20USD.
[08:55] <dezinezan> the router my mom got says wireless
[08:55] <donovan> mmhmm
[08:55] <donovan> and do you know if your mac has a wireless adapter?
[08:55] <AmaroqWolf> Well, if you look on the back of the router, ther'll be plugins like the ones on the back of your computer.
[08:55] <someone303> L8R all
[08:55] <n4cht> check the bottom of the DSL modem itself.  it'll say if it's a router or not.
[08:55] <high-freq> can someone plz tell me what file to edit to change my locale
[08:56] <donovan> dezinezan, do you know if the Mac has a wireless network adapter installed?
[08:56] <AmaroqWolf> On the back of your router, should be three or four plugs close to eachother, with another plug off to the left sorta by itself.
[08:56] <dezinezan> ok i have the modem that CAME to set up the highspeed DSL, then the other day we bought a D-Link  Wireless Router
[08:56] <pearl_black> i install the mplayer and have one fine image and everything but ... the sound have noiseeeeee ... :x is cruisel the flashplayer plays the sound very fine. SOmeone knows how can i resolve this?!
[08:57] <dezinezan> im not sure.. we just bought it from a guy he used it for gaming and he was always on the net
[08:57] <agliv5> eternalswd, you still with me?
[08:57] <donovan> ok well that's kind of crucial
[08:57] <AmaroqWolf> Look on the back of your router, there should be those plugins that look like the big phone cord plugin.
[08:57] <donovan> if your mac doesn't have a wireless adapter, you can't connect wirelessly
[08:57] <eternalswd> agliv5, yeah, I'm loading the repository listing into synaptic to see what's what
[08:58] <dezinezan> i dont mind connecting with wires, or wireless.. i just wanna get it on the net.. lol
[08:58] <dezinezan> but..
[08:58] <high-freq> can someone plz tell me what file to edit to change my locale
[08:58] <n4cht> dezinezan, excellent.  ok, all you need to do is plug an ethernet cable between the mac and the router, and the rest should be pie.   (however, you might want to check the model of your mac on the apple website, it likely has a wireless adapter built-in.)
[08:58] <felixhummel> !samba
[08:58] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:58] <donovan> rock on
[08:58] <musya> whats a good torrent program ?
[08:58] <dezinezan> the new router we have has 1-4 and  LAN
[08:58] <jakeyfu> bittorrent
[08:58] <dezinezan> ahmm
[08:58] <jakeyfu> @musya:bittorrent
[08:59] <sts> azureus
[08:59] <dezinezan> not to sound stupid but.. would i need to another cord to connect to the 2nd slot for the second computer.. or how exactly do i do this? cause i have another cord from old stuff
[08:59] <AmaroqWolf> dezinizan, you can plug a cable from your modem into the LAN slot. That'll give the internet to your router. Then you can plug one computer into the 1 slot, and another computer into the 2 slot.
[08:59] <jakeyfu> azureus=bittorrent+flashget
[08:59] <MM2> aargh! just installed 6.06 server. It had troubles during install, so I had to reconfigure HD partitions. It did not asked for any username or password... darn!
[09:00] <dezinezan> into the LAN?
[09:00] <BaB00> how do i connect using serial cable to an equipment ?
[09:00] <BaB00> I mean direct connection to the equipment (telnet)
[09:00] <donovan> into one of the four ports on the back of your router, yea
[09:00] <MM2> How I log into the system?
[09:00] <n4cht> LAN or any of the 1-4 ports.
[09:00] <agliv5> eternalswd, thanks for all your help :) I've been working on this for days...
[09:00] <AmaroqWolf> n4cht, I think the modem has to go straight into the LAN.
[09:00] <dezinezan> ok so..
[09:01] <AmaroqWolf> the LAN is like the in, and the 1-4 is like the out.
[09:01] <eternalswd> agliv5, that repository is really, really slow right now :(
[09:01] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf, oh.. absolutely.  I thought we were trying to figure out where to connect the mac.  You're absolutely right.
[09:01] <kerpal> how can i find out what version kernel i am using?
[09:01] <dezinezan> when its all plugged in how the guide that came with the disc said.. ALL the lights are light up AND it works going through the modem that came WITH the internet, and the new router..
[09:01] <dezinezan> do i just plug another cable in like SLOT 2 and then to the 2nd comp?
[09:01] <high-freq> kerpal: type in uname -a
[09:01] <n4cht> dezinezan yep.
[09:01] <kerpal> thanks
[09:01] <AmaroqWolf> n4cht, well, if the Mac also has an ethernet slot, it could probably hook up to a slot 1-4 as well couldn't it? I don't know abot macs.
[09:01] <high-freq> np
[09:01] <donovan> there should be an ethernet port on the back of your Mac thatyou can plug that cable in to
[09:02] <dezinezan> ok
[09:02] <dezinezan> but...
[09:02] <high-freq> can someone plz tell me what file to edit to change my locale
[09:02] <dezinezan> when its plugged
[09:02] <black_perl> i install the mplayer and have one fine image and everything but ... the sound have veryyyyyyy noiseeeeee o0 0o ... :x is cruisel strange the flashplayer plays the sound very fine. SOmeone knows how can i resolve this?! i got 3 sounds cards detected :|
[09:02] <donovan> but?
[09:02] <hayden>  /join #macosx
[09:02] <dezinezan> when its plugged in.. how exactly i connect the internet? will it notice the plug/software stuff and also do it? or what because i cant find a connect anywere
[09:02] <n4cht> dezinezan, what port on the back of the router is the modem plugged into?
[09:02] <dezinezan> ahmm
[09:02] <n4cht> that's a very crucial step.
[09:03] <dezinezan> actually i unplugged EVERYTHING and stuck with JUST the modem for now until i could find further help
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> zezinezan, if everything is connected right, it should automatically be connected. No dial in required.
[09:03] <donovan> dezinezan, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Windows frequently auto-detects the network but idk about other OS's...however, there should be a control panel option somewhere in there to configure networking
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> dangit I keep mispelling his name.
[09:03] <dezinezan> alright
[09:03] <n4cht> ah!  ok, plug the modem into the LAN port, and then connect the Mac to one of the other ports, 1-4.
[09:03] <n4cht> That should about do it.
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> Ubuntu autodetects networks too.
[09:04] <donovan> actually
[09:04] <Kazin> can someone help me with a video driver problem?
[09:04] <AzMoo> Do you guys have any clue what you're talking about?
[09:04] <felixhummel> I just configured my Network adapter with ifconfig, but at reboot, /etc/interfaces is loaded with wrong settings. Can I save the ifconfig settings with one command?
[09:04] <donovan> i had to input mine manually
[09:04] <dezinezan> ill plug everything back in the way i had it, the way it was working before, and explain what im doing and hopfully that wil help give a description on how im doing it..
[09:04] <dev1> I configured vsftpd with virtual user support. And after that local user can't connect to server in their home directories that listed in chroot_list. What is the problem?
[09:04] <dezinezan> one sec..
[09:04] <donovan> course that's probably because of the WEP key...
[09:04] <AmaroqWolf> Ah. I use a wired network.
[09:04] <n4cht> Ubuntu is Fantastic at autodetecting and configuring most networks, with the exception of connections coming from a Prism-based USB wireless adapter.  (I'm currently using one now.) that thing is hell to set up.
[09:04] <donovan> dezinezan, try restarting the Mac after you plug in the cable...one never knows but that Mac OS might recognize it.
[09:05] <donovan> n4cht, im using a linksys USB...and no kidding
[09:05] <AmaroqWolf> Ouch, n4cht. Yeah, I'm using an ethernet for my networking.
[09:05] <donovan> ive had to put in the WEP key at least 6 times now
[09:05] <donovan> lol
[09:05] <donovan> but i dont want to run cable...
[09:05] <n4cht> donovan, if i even close network-admin, my connection craps.  lol.
[09:05] <satix_> Hey everyone..
[09:05] <agliv5> eternalswd, I didn't load the repository into synaptic... I downloaded from the url I sent you...
[09:05] <satix_> Anyone in New York?
[09:05] <donovan> plus Cat5 is expensive around here...
[09:06] <bgehl> Hi everybody, I have a slighty uncommon question: If I know of a driver I'd like to be included in Feisty - who should I asked?
[09:06] <AzMoo> donovan, where are you? Antarctica?
[09:06] <donovan> lol
[09:06] <donovan> well
[09:06] <donovan> expensive from my point of view
[09:06] <n4cht> bgehl, check for a contributor's page at ubuntulinux.org
[09:06] <donovan> but then...i'm a cheapskate
[09:06] <donovan> :P
[09:06] <dezinezan> when i do this.. it sometimes d/c's me so if i go and im gone.. i WILL be back, because you guys/girls have helped me more than ANYTHING or ANYONE!! Thank you SOO Much!
[09:07] <donovan> i balked at 5 bucks for a 3 foot Cat5 at RadioShack...
[09:07] <AmaroqWolf> Always happy to help dezinezan
[09:07] <donovan> 10-4, good buddy
[09:07] <bgehl> thanks n4cht, I'll try (... ahm Germany?)
[09:07] <n4cht> iter, personally, would like to see linux-wlan-ng included in feisty.  chances of that are looking pretty slim though.
[09:08] <n4cht> okgo, that was supposed to be "i, personally"  lol.  stupid nick auto-complete.
[09:08] <n4cht> ack.
[09:08] <AmaroqWolf> teehee, I never thought I'd know enough actually provide useful help in a place like this. Just a few months ago, I was the newb coming in rooms like this asking everybody to help me.  :D
[09:09] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf: we all have to start somewhere.
[09:09] <n4cht> Kazin: Whatcha need?
[09:09] <eternalswd> agliv5, it's possible that deb is for feisty
[09:09] <donovan> sadly, the Network+ class does not deal with OSX...
[09:09] <h1st0> I'm having a problem creating a user.  Here's what happened.  I originally had a user named kimmy I deleted her.  Now when i'm trying to re create that user with user&groups.  I create it then when I close the dialog the user is gone.
[09:09] <Kazin> my nvidia card doesn't seem to be being put to use at all
[09:10] <agliv5> eternalswd, perhaps...
[09:10] <Kazin> i can't go above 1024x768 at 60hz
[09:10] <AzMoo> !nvidia | kazin
[09:10] <ubotu> kazin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <AmaroqWolf> I remember my first time in a room like this. I was a nightmare for whoever it was who tried to help me. I still had windows, and no CD burner. And I wanted to see if I could install of of a USB stick, and eventually learned that my PC's motherboard can't boot from USB.
[09:10] <eternalswd> agliv5, 2.3 isn't showing up for me from edgy or edgy-backports
[09:10] <n4cht> h1st0: try 'adduser' in a terminal window instead.
[09:10] <n4cht> or, rather, sudo adduser
[09:10] <agliv5> eternalswd, so does that mean that 2.3 doesn't run on this version of ubuntu?
[09:11] <h1st0> n4cht: any idea why users & groups wouldnt' work for just this one user name?  I can create others there.
[09:11] <BaB00> anyone ?
[09:11] <eternalswd> agliv5, it means the person running that repository doesn't have a deb for edgy, someone else might though
[09:11] <AmaroqWolf> Once I ordered the free Ubuntu CD, I was set.
[09:11] <h1st0> n4cht: like if I pick any other name than kimmy it works.
[09:11] <AzMoo> BaB00, what was the question?
[09:11] <n4cht> just out of curiousity, is there a way to upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu without a full reinstall?  like a dummy, my /home is on my / partition.
[09:11] <h1st0> n4cht: yes
[09:12] <AmaroqWolf> n4cht, my /home is on my / partition as well.
[09:12] <h1st0> n4cht: just change your sources.list to reflec the version
[09:12] <BaB00> how do i connect thru a serial cable to an equipment ?
[09:12] <h1st0> n4cht: or use update-manager
[09:12] <n4cht> h1st0: and then apt-get dist upgrade?
[09:12] <h1st0> !tell n4cht about upgrade
[09:12] <h1st0> n4cht: did you get the message from ubotu
[09:12] <AmaroqWolf> lol h1st0, changing the version isn't going to make it the new version.
[09:12] <eternalswd> agliv5, try http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=avidemux
[09:13] <h1st0> I know he needs to do a dist-upgrade aftwerwards
[09:13] <AmaroqWolf> oh, okay
[09:13] <donovan-> well id better get some sleep.
[09:13] <h1st0> AmaroqWolf: or he can use update-manager
[09:13] <donovan-> night all
[09:13] <h1st0> n4cht: you might want to try update manager instead
[09:13] <AmaroqWolf> ah
[09:13] <n4cht> sure did.
[09:13] <h1st0> !upgrade
[09:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:13] <AzMoo> BaB00, use minicom
[09:13] <AmaroqWolf> What version are you trying to upgrade to?
[09:14] <mareks> how to do x-forwarding on ubuntu server edition?
[09:14] <h1st0> So back to my user question.  For some reason I can't create a user named kimmy I can create a user by any other name.  I used to have a user named kimmy but need to recreate them.
[09:14] <musya> anybody know of a good site for torretns?
[09:14] <musya> torrents*
[09:14] <AzMoo> h1st0, can you add the user through the terminal?
[09:14] <h1st0> AzMoo: i'm going to try hold up
[09:14] <AzMoo> musya, I'm pretty sure linking to piracy sites would be against #ubuntu rules.
[09:14] <AmaroqWolf> h1st0, maybe there's some file(s) left behind that weren't deleted when the user first was?
[09:15] <musya> no i meant legal onces
[09:15] <h1st0> AzMoo: no because htee group already exhists
[09:15] <musya> ones*
[09:15] <h1st0> AzMoo: that must be the problem there is a group named kimmy still.
[09:15] <AzMoo> h1st0, probably. Bit weird though. I would've thought that the manager would've been able to figure that one out. Delete the group and give it a go.
[09:16] <h1st0> AzMoo: yeah that was it.
[09:16] <_mackinac_> legal torrents of what
[09:16] <h1st0> AzMoo: craziness I swear this stuff only happens to me.
[09:16] <agliv5> agliv5
[09:16] <h1st0> musya: well ubuntu.com has torrents of their iso's
[09:16] <rc-1> how do i block a site from loading in firefox?
[09:17] <n4cht> wow.  update-manager makes this extremely painless.
[09:17] <musya> rc-1: dont open it
[09:17] <AmaroqWolf> n4cht, what version are you upgrading from/to?
[09:17] <AmaroqWolf> lol musya
[09:17] <rc-1> musya, i need other tabbs in the session and it crashes firefox
[09:17] <n4cht> from breezy to dapper, then from dapper to edgy.
[09:18] <AmaroqWolf> rc-1, does the site that crashes firefox have any flash files embedded into it?
[09:18] <rc-1> AmaroqWolf, yes
[09:18] <eternalswd> agliv5, yes, the avidemux from the site you originally downloaded from was compiled for feisty, the other deb should work fine
[09:18] <AmaroqWolf> rc-1, you need the newest flash.
[09:18] <AmaroqWolf> Then it won't crash.
[09:19] <n4cht> i'm just worried that at some critical point during the upgrade it's going to require a connection after a restart, which leaves me without a connection due to having to manually deal with this stupid usb wireless adapter.
[09:19] <AmaroqWolf> Can someone give rc-1 instructions for putting flash on? I don't remember how I did it.
[09:19] <musya> actually firefox has been crashing on me too lately
[09:19] <musya> but just randomly
[09:19] <rc-1> Amaranth, i accidentally clicked on an add, and its something that deliberately crashes it
[09:19] <rc-1> can i just disable flash somehow?
[09:19] <musya> rc-1: sudo apt-cache search flash
[09:19] <n4cht> musya, I can share the pain with you on that one.
[09:20] <musya> see what it give you then apt-get install packageName
[09:20] <AmaroqWolf> Oh. For me, my firefox just crashed whenever it loaded some sites with flashes.
[09:20] <musya> should be like flash free
[09:20] <musya> or something
[09:20] <cypher1> musya: fyi.. i think apt-cache search does not need sudo privs.
[09:20] <BaB00> AzMoo: thanks.. any software with an GUI ? for direct communication i mean ..  my boss is not a big fan of the terminal :D
[09:20] <scv> AmaroqWolf, ???
[09:20] <n4cht> so, i keep hearing about beryl.  is it any good?
[09:20] <AzMoo> BaB00, not that I know of, sorry.
[09:20] <AzMoo> n4cht, it's awesome.
[09:20] <rc-1> is there a way i can edit what sites the session loads, or turn off flash, or block a site from loading?
[09:20] <BaB00> no problem.. thanks
[09:21] <musya> n4cht: do you know why it crashes?
[09:21] <n4cht> AzMoo, sweety.  once I upgrade from breezy, I'll have to try it out.  Is it a pain to install?
[09:21] <musya> maybe just a firefox bug?
[09:21] <scv> AmaroqWolf, my ff 2.0 is ok on windows
[09:21] <AmaroqWolf> Oh, when it comes to flashes?
[09:21] <n4cht> musya, nope.  i haven't stopped being lazy enough to fire up firefox (har!) from command line without & to catch the verbose end of things yet.
[09:22] <AzMoo> n4cht, it can be. The latest version doesn't work with XGL for me so I had to drop one back, but it's worth it.
[09:22] <AmaroqWolf> It seems to just be on linux that it crashes for flashes if the flash isn't the newest.
[09:22] <grol> i have great problems with my USB WLAN Adapter, who can help
[09:22] <musya> hehe
[09:22] <rc-1> anyone know how to turn off flash in firefox, totally block a site, or edit what sessions it loads?
[09:22] <scv> grol, d-link?
[09:22] <Kazin> ubotu, thanks that helped me get the driver installed, and now i can use the proper refresh rate, but im still stuck at low resolution
[09:22] <twisties> Can I install KDE without all the extra programs it comes with? Tried it on my mates computer but it installs hundreds of unnecessary apps
[09:22] <AzMoo> Kazin, ubotu is a bot ;)
[09:22] <musya> twisties: maybe they are nessasery then?
[09:22] <Kazin> oh
[09:22] <AmaroqWolf> svc, in fact, when I was having trouble with my firefox crashing from flashes, I installed a windows version of firefox under wine as a substitute. lol
[09:22] <Rajiv2> Hi... can anyone help me get my blue tooth dial up going
[09:23] <grol> scv - yes d-link - dwl-g122 -
[09:23] <Kazin> yeah
[09:23] <Kazin> sorry
[09:23] <Kazin> lol
[09:23] <eternalswd> rc-1, if you uninstall flash, that should do the trick, or try the FlashBlock extension.
[09:23] <AzMoo> Kazin, you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:23] <Kazin> azmoo :P
[09:23] <twisties> over 300 games/edugames/image stuff/chat stuff?
[09:23] <frogzoo> !me being a bot
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me being a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <scv> grol, I have a g132
[09:23] <rc-1> eternalswd, i cant install the plugin without losing my session :(
[09:23] <AmaroqWolf> eternalswd, I think he should install the flash package neccesary to avoid firefox crashing from flashes in the first place.
[09:23] <scv> grol, g-122 is junk now
[09:23] <n4cht> Kazin: that's not just your nvidia card.  ubuntu's loading default setting for your monitor, you might want to consult your mfg provided manual for the proper settings and get your hands dirty with manually editing the X conf.
[09:23] <musya> twisties: yea you can manually choose from all of the kde packages, just install kde and the libs for it,and other need packages it requires, then install what apps you want from kde.
[09:23] <Rajiv2> Hi... can anyone help me get my blue tooth dial up going
[09:24] <musya> twisties: apt-cache search kde
[09:24] <AmaroqWolf> rc-1, by session do you mean the tabs, or do you mean session sessions?
[09:24] <grol> hello
[09:24] <musya> twisties: have fun
[09:24] <twisties> k thanks :) Just want to see if its better with Beryl than Gnome
[09:24] <eternalswd> rc-1, it's easy to install flash 9, just download the installer from adobe and copy the plugins to ~/.mozilla/plugins, or it should be in backports
[09:25] <grol> scv - what do you mean with "junk know"
[09:25] <rc-1> eternalswd, thats not the problem, i have flash 9
[09:25] <n4cht> Rajiv2: you just made me cry a little inside.  i tried doing that myself through my sprint vision pcs phone, since it doubles as a modem... and it was a terrifying experience that i never want to relive.  however, chances are one of these fine chaps will be able to get you up and running!  full of knowledge they are!
[09:25] <rc-1> its something that makes firefox jump around the screen, and spam porn adds
[09:25] <Rajiv2> Man.. I got the phone modem quried.. works fine
[09:26] <AzMoo> rc-1, serious? wow. Can you pm me the link?
[09:26] <Rajiv2> When I try to dial out gets stuck on the step that says intializing modem
[09:26] <grol> scv, i tried first with ndiswrapper but found on dapper rt2470
[09:26] <eternalswd> rc-1, ah, then I'd suggest installing adblock plus
[09:26] <scv> grol, iirc, its chip is not good
[09:26] <AmaroqWolf> rc-1, here's a little trick. If you wan't to close firefox without losing your tabs. Forecequit it, go into your system manager, and end anything firefox. Then next time you start it, it'll ask you if you want to restore the session. :P
[09:26] <AmaroqWolf> I think you gotta have firefox 2 though, for that.
[09:26] <n4cht> Rajiv2: AH!  You just reminded me of the olden days, which I won't get into lest I date myself, but that really just means you need to find out with that proper init string for the modem is.
[09:26] <AzMoo> AmaroqWolf, or the tab mix plus plugin.
[09:27] <eternalswd> rc-1, it'd also be a good idea to install noscript and only allow trusted sites to run javascript.  that'll kill a bunch of the problems
[09:27] <scv> grol, iirc, g-132 was even supported by bsd
[09:27] <rc-1> Amaranth, yes i do that, but when i do it reloads the crashing site
[09:27] <AmaroqWolf> AzMoo, I always wondered if there was a plugin for saving tabs.
[09:27] <rc-1> eternalswd, its flash i already have adblock/noscript
[09:27] <Rajiv2> I have a init string from my service provider but where do I paste it
[09:27] <Rajiv2> In initialisation string 1
[09:27] <Rajiv2> ?
[09:27] <frogzoo> AmaroqWolf: there is
[09:27] <rc-1> AzMoo, ill pm u the link once i can see what it is
[09:27] <n4cht> Rajiv2: That sounds about right.
[09:27] <AzMoo> rc-1, hah, thanks.
[09:27] <eternalswd> rc-1, then just uninstall flash or install the flashblock extension
[09:28] <Rajiv2> And the result is that it still goes no where
[09:28] <grol> scv, but i found a driver in ubuntuforum called rt2470
[09:28] <Rajiv2> The AT strings work fine
[09:28] <frogzoo> AmaroqWolf: Tab Saver
[09:28] <Rajiv2> I can query the modem just fine
[09:28] <scv> grol, I don't know
[09:28] <rc-1> eternalswd, ill have to uninstall flash, i cant install a plugin when it crashes on load!
[09:29] <grol> scv, ok, thanx
[09:29] <lars__> I have a problem with gcc.. when i install it it only get the i486 compiler executables.. i want the i686
[09:29] <lars__> how can i fix that
[09:29] <n4cht> Rajiv2: Weird.  You've got me totally stumped then.  If the init phase is what hangs, but the init string is supposedly the proper one (according to your isp) then the only thing I can suggest is double checking that init string through the mfg of the modem.
[09:29] <AmaroqWolf> Here's an interesting question. I have a CD rom drive. It has a button on the door. It pops out when I press it. However, when I have a CD in it, and I press the button, it does nothing. I have to eject the CD via telling it to eject from the system for it to eject. Is there a way I can make the button eject when there's a CD in it?
[09:29] <rc-1> eternalswd, thanks i wish there was a better way though :( whats the command to remove flash? (i cant use firefox to lookup! :(
[09:29] <eternalswd> rc-1, then uninstall it, install flashblock and reinstall it, then you should have control over what flash content is actually used.
[09:29] <Rajiv2> n4cht is there anyway I can get a hold of you I have to go out for a meeting
[09:29] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf: You have to unmount the drive.  :)
[09:30] <Rajiv2> I like Kubuntu but if it can't get me online its pointless
[09:30] <eternalswd> rc-1, did you install from the repository?
[09:30] <rc-1> AzMoo, did it crash your firefox too (if that was it)
[09:30] <n4cht> Rajiv2: I'll be around here a lot.
[09:30] <n4cht> :)
[09:30] <rc-1> eternalswd, ya i think
[09:30] <Rajiv2> see you in an hour
[09:30] <AmaroqWolf> n4cht, I can right click the CD icon and tell it to eject, and it pops open. Unless I'm not understanding what unmount means.
[09:31] <Fedge> Can someone help me install gnome from command line?
[09:31] <eternalswd> rc-1, then just open up synaptic and search for flash the right click mark for uninstall and apply
[09:31] <AzMoo> rc-1, that's pretty crazy, I want to know how they did that.
[09:32] <NoEvidenZ> Could someone direct me to a channel where I can find out about games on Linux?
[09:32] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf: That's actually how it's supposed to work.  You can alternately type "sudo umount /media/cdrom" and then press the eject button on your drive.  :)
[09:32] <AmaroqWolf> n4cht: ah, okay. Isn't there a way to make it unmount and eject by pressing the button?
[09:32] <rc-1> AzMoo, yeah it was the most awful popup ive ever seen in firefox
[09:32] <AzMoo> rc-1, just press ctrl-w to close the tab to stop it though.
[09:33] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf: There sure is.  I just can't remember how to do it without the package you can snag via Automatix (Which, of course, is not supported nor generally discussed here.)
[09:33] <AmaroqWolf> lol rc-1, I'm curious about this ad that apparently shakes the screen and such.
[09:33] <SurfnKid> !w32codecs
[09:33] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:33] <musya> NoEvidenZ: #linuxhelp
[09:33] <AmaroqWolf> I've heard that automatix is ebil. It can break your system.
[09:33] <SurfnKid> !codecs
[09:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:34] <NoEvidenZ> musya: Thanks
[09:34] <musya> !games
[09:34] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:34] <Fedge> How can I install gnome from the command line?
[09:34] <n4cht> If not used properly, it sure can.  Or, at the very least, totally break apt.
[09:34] <rc-1> NOONE ELSE CLICK THIS AmaroqWolf click at your own risk doom3.zoy.org DONT CLICK
[09:34] <cypher1> Fedge: i guess sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <musya> Fedge: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:34] <AzMoo> rc-1, did it actually crash firefox for you?
[09:35] <rc-1> AzMoo, yes :(
[09:35] <AzMoo> spewin.
[09:35] <Fedge> musya: thanks a lot, i've been struggling for an hour
[09:35] <AzMoo> rc-1, just kept jumping around the screen for me, no crash.
[09:35] <n4cht> That link ROCKS rc-1
[09:35] <AmaroqWolf> rc-1, holy shit
[09:36] <rc-1> n4cht, AmaroqWolf i warned you
[09:36] <eternalswd> rc-1, my school blocks that site :p
[09:36] <AmaroqWolf> What I'm curious about is how it can control my window this much.
[09:36] <mindamp> i just did a fresh install of edgy desktop..
[09:36] <mindamp> and it didnt ask to create a user..
[09:36] <eliasson> Hi, anyone know why i get this errors: http://www.coreinet.com/error
[09:36] <mindamp> so i had to boot into recovery mode and create a user, but when i try to add him to the admin group... there is no admin group!
[09:37] <Fedge> musya: once installed, "startx" starts up gnome, right?
[09:37] <mindamp> i have done several installs, and the only other time i have seen this i just reinstalled...
[09:37] <mindamp> any suggestions?
[09:37] <AzMoo> Madpilot, that's a bit harsh. He actually asked for it and there was plenty of warning and description first.
[09:37] <AmaroqWolf> lmfao, firefox has blocked 704 popups.
[09:37] <mindamp> fedge.. startx starts X
[09:37] <Fedge> as in X11
[09:37] <lars__> I have a problem with gcc.. when i install it it only get the i486 compiler executables.. i want the i686
[09:37] <Flannel> mindamp: Sounds like you didn't actually finish the install.  Did anything happen befre it finished?
[09:37] <Fedge> what starts up gnome then?
[09:37] <Madpilot> AzMoo, posting links known to be dangerous is never cool. He can come back in 48hrs
[09:37] <mindamp> nah..
[09:37] <mindamp> even got to the "take cd out and hit continue"
[09:38] <Flannel> mindamp: This is the alternate CD? or the Desktop CD?
[09:38] <mindamp> can i boot the cd again, and somehow just get into the group and user creation part?
[09:38] <mindamp> the desktopCD
[09:38] <mindamp> edgy 5.10
[09:38] <AmaroqWolf> I thought linux is all secure and crap. How can something take control of my window, un-maximise it, resize it, and move it around the screen randomly so I can't catch it to close it?
[09:38] <mindamp> or can i just create the admin group?
[09:38] <Flannel> mindamp: hmm, very odd.  Edgy is 6.10 ;)  but.. um, no, I dont believe you can skip forward.  Try reinstalling, I guess.
[09:39] <mindamp> blasted.
[09:39] <mindamp> "so i cant catch it to close it"?
[09:39] <mindamp> lmfao
[09:39] <AmaroqWolf> That link rc-1 gave me. xD
[09:39] <musya> Fedge: you can change the session type in the login screen
[09:39] <mindamp> whats your ip AmaroqWolf?
[09:39] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf: xkill = your friend.  :D  After the initial novelty of it wore off, I killed it dead.
[09:40] <mindamp> hrm
[09:40] <Fedge> musya: could you elaborate a bit?
[09:40] <AmaroqWolf> It resized my firefox, began endlessly and randomly moving it around my screen, and repeatedly playing "hey, I'm looking at gay porno", while mplayer tried (unsuccessfully, thank god), to load something. And n4cht, I did forcequit it.
[09:40] <AzMoo> n4cht, ctrl-w closes the tab ;)
[09:40] <Flannel> Guys, it's not appropriate, let alone ontopic.  drop it.
[09:41] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf: Just be glad that didn't happen at work or something.
[09:41] <AmaroqWolf> xD Yeah.
[09:41] <musya> Fedge: in your login screen once you restart, you will see a menu option there go to session type, and choose gnome
[09:41] <AmaroqWolf> n4cht, firefox also blocked 704 popups.
[09:41] <n4cht> that's funny.
[09:41] <musya> hey firefox is not doig anything its not loading my pages
[09:41] <AmaroqWolf> xD Indeed.
[09:41] <Fedge> musya: this is after ubuntu-desktop is installed?
[09:41] <musya> any suggestions to fix it
[09:41] <frogzoo> eliphas_: you trying to install audacious on dapper?
[09:41] <musya> Fedge: correct
[09:41] <n4cht> Still chugging away at upgrading to dapper.
[09:41] <AmaroqWolf> mindamp, why would you like to know my IP address?
[09:42] <musya> !ip
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <musya> !slap
[09:42] <Fedge> musya: is there anyway to install gnome without having to DL and install the full blown desktop version?
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <mindamp-thinking> AmaroqWolf.. it was a joke, I know your IP address :-P
[09:42] <n4cht> 8 minutes left on downloading the packages.  repo is soo slow.
[09:42] <AmaroqWolf> Oh haha.
[09:42] <mindamp> so whats wrong with gay porn anyways?
[09:43] <AmaroqWolf> I believe I know your IP address too. :P
[09:43] <mindamp> well i guess if they are guys... that me a little much.
[09:43] <mindamp> er may be a little much
[09:43] <musya> um yea i suppose you can do what twisties did and install each package at a time, but good luck with that one, though he's installing kde, but to find the packages do this, apt-cache search gnome
[09:43] <mindamp> its late, later geeks.
[09:43] <AmaroqWolf> later mind
[09:43] <daaku> anyone know how i can find all the names attached to an IP address (i think nslookup can do it - but i cant figure out how)
[09:44] <n4cht> hey!  I resemble that remark!
[09:44] <Fedge> musya: sounds like i should just stick to the whole thing
[09:44] <musya> tis not late, its early
[09:44] <AmaroqWolf> names, daaku?
[09:44] <musya> Fedge: thats the easiest way to go
[09:44] <musya> :)
[09:44] <Fedge> i just don't need open office and everything
[09:44] <daaku> AmaroqWolf: cnames i guess - my network terminology is not very good
[09:44] <Fedge> but it begins DLing OO and everything else
[09:45] <n4cht> "One to two inches of snow" my EYE!  It's up to 3 inches already and isn't showing any signs of letting up.  bollocks.
[09:45] <AmaroqWolf> daaku, I was just curious. I'm not familiar with that.
[09:45] <musya> Fedge: well i suppose you can delete it later,
[09:45] <musya> if you already have it, it wont download it
[09:46] <Fedge> i don't have it, i was just trying to avoid downloading it
[09:46] <Fedge> i'll just let it go, and check on it in the am
[09:46] <musya> just set it to download while you sleep
[09:47] <yommb> Fedge : thats cose ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[09:47] <yommb> cos*
[09:47] <yommb> just try installing gnome2 & some other stuff you need
[09:47] <yommb> for a functional desktop
[09:47] <agliv5> eternalswd, WOW I finally got it installed after only 3 days!!! Thank you so very much :)  Someone should provide a link to this deb on the homepage....
[09:48] <Fedge> yommb: is there an easy way to just install gnome?
[09:48] <Fedge> like apt-get install gnome-everything?
[09:48] <Fedge> :)
[09:48] <musya> Fedge: he said gnome2
[09:48] <Fedge> ooh
[09:48] <gawd> !avi | gawd
[09:48] <AmaroqWolf> That page still bugs me...
[09:48] <musya> !gnome2
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <musya> !gnome
[09:48] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:48] <Fedge> i know nothing about gnome2
[09:49] <musya> !gnome install
[09:49] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:49] <AmaroqWolf> Not only are we using linux, but firefox. That's like, doubly secure. A page like that should only be able to take control like it did on something like Internet Explorer.
[09:49] <n4cht> I've never even heard of Gnome2
[09:49] <musya> ok, Fedge
[09:49] <yommb> Fedge : I don't know exactly what the pakages are but its no hard finding out : Try looking dor gnome2 , gnome-desktop .. stuff like that !
[09:49] <yommb> in apt
[09:50] <musya> apt-cache search gnome
[09:50] <yommb> or synaptic
[09:50] <Flannel> AmaroqWolf: It's over.  Go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you still want to talk about it.  And, if you want to stop it from doing that, get a javascript blocker.
[09:50] <musya> you will get a large list of packages,
[09:50] <AmaroqWolf> I'm sorry.
[09:51] <yommb> musya : about 114 :)
[09:51] <musya> find the ones that you think gnome needs and install those only, im not going to find them for you, what ever sounds important basically,
[09:51] <n4cht> AmaroqWolf: That's not a security problem, really.  Though it's annoying as hell, it does no real damage.  It's not malicious in nature, so it's not a security risk at all.  It's just a bunch of harmless javascript and html thrown together carefully to be exactly what it is; the most irritating thing on the internet since star wars kid.
[09:51] <musya> and when you install it will say whats needed, so you'll install them as well
[09:51] <yommb> fedge : synaptic will also take care of the dependencies ; so , you you shoulnt have too much trouble ..
[09:52] <Fedge> how do i lauch synaptic?
[09:52] <bumiii> Hi, anyone know why i get this errors: http://www.coreinet.com/error ?
[09:52] <musya> Fedge: in terminal type synaptic
[09:52] <AzMoo> n4cht, keep it to #ubuntu-offtopic before Flannel kicks you ;)
[09:52] <n4cht> AzMoo, already took it there.  :)
[09:52] <AmaroqWolf> I'm in there now.
[09:53] <Fedge> i must not have it installed, i get command not found
[09:53] <Fedge> all i've got is apt from the basic 6.10 server install
[09:53] <musya> your on a server install?
[09:53] <Fedge> yes, should've mentioned that, sorry
[09:53] <Flannel> Fedge: you won't have synaptic then.  You'll use apt-get, or aptitude, if you want a ncurses based GUI
[09:54] <musya> synaptic
[09:54] <Fedge> i'm just trying to find a simple way to get a gui up
[09:54] <musya> you might just want to install the desktop ubuntu system from a disc instead
[09:54] <musya> i think it has it anyway
[09:54] <musya> might be faster instead of downloading
[09:54] <Flannel> Fedge: well, which GUI would you like?  theres... lots!
[09:55] <dezinezan> hiya
[09:55] <Fedge> gnome is my preference
[09:55] <dezinezan> im back
[09:55] <musya> anybody know of ubuntu hacks?
[09:55] <musya> Fedge: either reinstall ubuntu with the desktop
[09:55] <yommb> Fedge : sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will install basic x server for you ! Install that and start it with startx ; then install synaptic , or google for the correct gnome2 packages u need for a minimal gnome desktop !
[09:55] <musya> or do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <musya> or choose the packages yourself
[09:55] <yommb> Fedge : sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will install basic x server for you ! Install that and start it with startx ; then install synaptic , AND *google for the correct gnome2 minimal desktop ckages gnome desktop !
[09:56] <musya> if you install the ubuntu-desktop you can then go back and remove unwanted apps
[09:56] <Flannel> Fedge: Theres a bunch of GUIs you can use.  Depending on how heavy you want your WM to be.  From ratpoison to fluxbox to gnome/kde/etc.  What do you intend on using it for?  A real desktop?
[09:56] <Erbas> can anyone tell me how i'd configure ubuntu for an optus cable modem?
[09:56] <AmaroqWolf> I told a friend of mine that I'm working on making my first .deb package. Which would be easier/better, making a .deb, or making a .rpm and aliening it?
[09:56] <AzMoo> musya, bit of a waste of bandwidth though.
[09:56] <Vema> How do i mount a read only cdrom in ubuntu? I can't browse it in GUI filebrowser, only in console as root.
[09:56] <yommb> People should really do a bit more reading before they start blasting away on #ubuntu ...
[09:57] <yommb> its quite annoying actually ...
[09:57] <musya> AzMoo: yea but he was starting to annoy me
[09:57] <yommb> lazyness .; I guess
[09:57] <Fedge> yommb: i'm sorry if that's directed at me, i've been doing as much research as I can, i just not familiar with commandline linux
[09:58] <Flannel> Fedge: if you just want gnome, you can install generic gnome.  If you want the full blown ubuntu package set, install the "ubuntu-desktop" package.  Also, you'll want to install the desktop kernel and get rid of the -server one.
[09:58] <musya> Fedge: its ok, dont worry about that people who complain about others just think too highly of themselves
[09:58] <yommb> Fedge , no it' just that the channel sometimes is flooding with useless Q's & stuff , it's not directed at you ...
[09:59] <Fedge> well, I appreciate all the help very much
[09:59] <musya> Fedge: id suggest installing the ubuntu-desktop and getting familiar with the terminal
[09:59] <musya> or ussing putty on windows to ssh into your box
[09:59] <musya> to get use to the terminal
[10:00] <Fedge> i guess i just need practice setting everything up commandline
[10:00] <yommb> musya : u must admit that sometimes its a bit over the top .. peepz enetering this channel , really asking useless stuff , or asking : Why is my samba server not working , without having read a single letter of the Samba manual or docs ... see my point ?
[10:00] <musya> AmaroqWolf: read about both and then let us know
[10:01] <musya> yommb: yea stuff like that is, you need to search first then ask,
[10:01] <musya> ask google before asking irc. www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[10:01] <Flannel> !jfgi | musya
[10:01] <ubotu> musya: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:02] <musya> sorry....
[10:02] <dezinezan> my second computer is gnome (i have no idea how to use it or anything) but im trying to set up the internet for both computers, when i run the CD that came with the router, it doesnt work, it fails, but the internet will still work going through the  router and modem that i had before... You guys told me to find another cable and insert it into the 2nd slot and then into the 2nd (gnome) computer... I DID that and the wireles
[10:02] <yommb> musya : I always want to help people who are stuck ; just not those who are lazy :)
[10:02] <black_perl> i install the mplayer and have one fine image and everything but ... the sound have veryyyyyyy noiseeeeee o0 0o ... :x is cruisel strange the flashplayer plays the sound very fine. SOmeone knows how can i resolve this?!
[10:02] <Flannel> musya: that's not how this channel operates
[10:03] <dezinezan> *sigh
[10:03] <yommb> Flannel : he knows we were just discussing that point :)
[10:03] <yommb> read my former comment
[10:03] <musya> Flannel:  yommb was right about one thing, people come in asking quesiotns without searching first
[10:03] <yommb> 2 up !
[10:04] <Flannel> musya: and there's nothing inheritly wrong with that.  But this is offtopic.
[10:04] <dezinezan> and iv came back and said exactly what has happened or worked or ect.... how do i tell if the 2nd is actually connected? do i have to do something on the 2nd computer (mac/linux/gnome) to get the internet set and running? like on this computer, (windows xp home) i have to go to Start/Connect/DSL
[10:05] <Flannel> dezinezan: if you have a router, and both computers are plugged into the router, they should work out of the box.
[10:06] <Flannel> dezinezan: oh, with DSL... you need to dialout.  Most of the time you set that up on the router itself, so it knows how to dialout (and stays connected all of the time).  Then as far as the computers are concerned theyre on the internet, and don't care how
[10:06] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, just start a browser and try to go to a page.
[10:06] <dezinezan> yes it shows that BOTH are working.. like the 1 & 2 are both lite up...  but my stepdad is on the other comp, the mac, and im not seein the internet working.. and im not sure if i have to DO something to get it going.. like on this one, i have to connect it manually
[10:07] <musya> anyway GNight Guys its late
[10:08] <maverick> hey guys stupid question but i thought i would ask. basically my net is capped and i wont til install ubuntu on my laptop, only problem is the only disk i got is the x64 (laptop is 32bit) is it possible to install 32 bit of the 64 bit disk???
[10:08] <Flannel> maverick: nope
[10:08] <maverick> dam
[10:09] <dezinezan> OMG
[10:09] <bernie_> hey guys, i have working xgl, i just have one problem, i cant change my emerald theme
[10:09] <dezinezan> my stepdad opened a online game on the 2nd comp and now its windowed some how and we cant get it closed.. the ctrl+alt+del doesnt work like on this one..
[10:09] <dezinezan> and we forced to reboot it
[10:09] <dezinezan> -_-
[10:09] <NoEvidenZ> Hey guys. My friend's trying to boot Ubuntu. When he puts in the live cd, it boots to the selection screen, then when he chooses to Install, instead of loading to the GUI, it loads for a while, then shows up as a black screen with a flashing cursor in the top corner. Can anyone help?
[10:10] <dezinezan> not sure why he did online game
[10:10] <icatalina> hello
[10:10] <dezinezan> i wish i could uninstll this and install windows, but it doesnt work..
[10:11] <icatalina> i'm having problems with the video playback
[10:11] <aalhamad> how can i customize the lock screen ?
[10:11] <icatalina> when i play video the Xorg process goes to 80%~100% of CPU
[10:11] <icatalina> it's only happens when i play video with subtitules and i don't know why....
[10:12] <dezinezan> i opened browzer
[10:12] <dezinezan> and it says...
[10:12] <dezinezan> Looking up google.com...
[10:12] <dezinezan> but does NOTHING at all
[10:13] <dezinezan> why is this making this so complex, i did everything it said.. and nothing is seeming to work..
[10:13] <dezinezan> this is using java
[10:14] <dezinezan> i used to know ALL the server and chanserv, nickserv, operserv and everything
[10:14] <dezinezan> oh well
[10:14] <dezinezan> ok
[10:14] <dezinezan> 5mins later..
[10:14] <Flannel> !enter | dezinezan
[10:14] <ubotu> dezinezan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:14] <dezinezan> it says.. Server not Found?
[10:14] <enemy574> hi
[10:15] <aalhamad> how can i customize the lock screen ? plz help
[10:15] <Flannel> dezinezan: has he restarted since being plugged in to the router?
[10:15] <Flannel> dezinezan: and, you're online while he's doing this, right?
[10:15] <NoEvidenZ> Can someone help me with an Edgy i386 problem? When my friend puts in the Live CD, it doesn't load the GUI properly. It loads for a while, then sits at a black screen with a cursor in the top left instead of booting into the OS.
[10:15] <dezinezan> yea
[10:15] <dezinezan> on this comp
[10:15] <Hmmmm> hi guys, any familiar with managing bugzilla?
[10:15] <dezinezan> but on macs/linux/gnome..
[10:16] <Hmmmm> i want bugzilla to use the htaccess auth used by svn
[10:16] <dezinezan> do you have to do anything like go to Start.>Connect.>DSL
[10:16] <sasha_AMU> HI
[10:16] <dezinezan> or SOMETHING.. im not sure because i have never used mac before, and im not absolute
[10:16] <philosophus> dezinezan: Err, why would you need that, and what would it do?
[10:16] <Flannel> !dsl | dezinezan, this would be the equivalent
[10:16] <ubotu> dezinezan, this would be the equivalent: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:17] <philosophus> ah
[10:17] <dezinezan> this.. ?
[10:17] <dezinezan> this what?
[10:17] <Flannel> but, really... if your router is setup correctly, you don't need that.  since the router takes care of conencting.
[10:17] <Flannel> dezinezan: follow the link
[10:18] <philosophus> dezinezan: And since you were asking about macs, and I just happen to be using one right now - the configuration for it is in the PPPoE tab of the Network preference panel.
[10:20] <dezinezan> gerr... its at the "sudo ppoeconf" and i hit enter, and it says.. Password:
[10:20] <Flannel> dezinezan: that's your password, for sudo.
[10:20] <Lynoure> dezinezan: yes, yours
[10:20] <Flannel> !sudo | dezinezan
[10:20] <ubotu> dezinezan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:20] <NoEvidenZ> Anyone even heard of this error before and could point me in the right direction?
[10:21] <dezinezan> it wont let me type a password..
[10:21] <dezinezan> it says blank
[10:21] <AzMoo> dezinezan, it will always stay blank.
[10:21] <dezinezan> ah ok
[10:21] <dezinezan> i didnt knowthat...
[10:21] <Flannel> dezinezan: that's so people over your shoulder don't see your password
[10:21] <AzMoo> dezinezan, stops people from seeing how many characters your password is.
[10:21] <ifndefx2> hi, I had installed linux on my laptop (macbook) and have noticed that the sound volume is really low, when I reboot into Vista or XP the sound volume is good. I checked the volume control and it was at maximum. Does any one how to resolve this issue ?
[10:21] <dezinezan> oh ok
[10:22] <dezinezan> ok
[10:22] <dezinezan> it says..
[10:22] <Lynoure> NoEvidenZ: I had similar problem with Breezy live cd, but worked fine with Dapper. Some hardware incompability, possibly or faulty cd.
[10:22] <AzMoo> ifndefx2, If you find the answer to that can you let me know? I'm having the same issue on another box. I've just cranked the speakers up to full.
[10:23] <theherbalizer> how can i copy a hard drive? i have a 120gb with 6.10 currently installed on it, but i want to move it over to a 300gb drive.
[10:23] <ifndefx2> ahhh kool its not just me
[10:23] <Flannel> NoEvidenZ: did he burn at 4x or so?  does the CD integrity check?
[10:24] <NoEvidenZ> Running the check cd thingy now.
[10:24] <dezinezan> " I found 1 ethernet device: eth0     Are all your ethernet interfaces listed above? (If No, modconf will be started so you can load the card drivers manually). Or press ESC to abort here.
[10:24] <Flannel> theherbalizer: all the files can just be copied.  You'llneed to reinstall grub to the MBR though.
[10:24] <Flannel> !grub | theherbalizer
[10:24] <ubotu> theherbalizer: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:24] <Flannel> theherbalizer: obviously, partition it up how you want first
[10:24] <theherbalizer> done, used qtparted
[10:24] <Flannel> theherbalizer: that first link (the lost after windows) gives instructions on how to reinstall grub to the MBR
[10:24] <theherbalizer> 5 gigs for swap sound adequate?
[10:25] <AmaroqWolf> o.o
[10:25] <AmaroqWolf> theherbalizer, you only need as much swap as you have ram.
[10:25] <theherbalizer> rock on, then
[10:25] <Flannel> theherbalizer: How much RAM do you have?
[10:25] <dezinezan> umm.. not to sound stupid, but what exactly do i do after it says that?
[10:26] <theherbalizer> 2gb
[10:26] <Flannel> theherbalizer: traditionally swap has been double your RAM, but I'd never make swap more than 1-2G, unless you know you need it.
[10:26] <theherbalizer> with another 2 in the mail from newegg
[10:26] <Flannel> theherbalizer: well, if youre having 4GB of ram, and plan on hibernating, you'll need 4GB swap at least
[10:26] <theherbalizer> well, i have 300 gigs and three other 120gb harddrives, so space isn't too much of an issue for me
[10:27] <Flannel> theherbalizer: you might actually want to look into LVM
[10:27] <theherbalizer> !lvm
[10:27] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:27] <theherbalizer> oh, raid, i see what you're doing there
[10:27] <Flannel> LVM allows you to massage partitions however you'd like
[10:27] <Flannel> no, not RAID, LVM
[10:27] <dezinezan> all the lights are on everything is working as it says its supposed to look like when the lights are lite up.. and i .......... GERR
[10:27] <dezinezan> it says..
[10:27] <theherbalizer> set up a mirror and seperate them?
[10:28] <Flannel> theherbalizer: LVM is not anything to do with a RAID.  LVM sets up an additional abstraction layer, allows you to ignore hardware storage.
[10:28] <theherbalizer> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[10:28] <Flannel> for instance, you could have... two 180GB partitions, if you'd like
[10:28] <dezinezan> Sorry I scanned 1 interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not repond. Please check your netword and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process  which controls the modem"
[10:28] <theherbalizer> alright, copy files and work on grub. i'll look into this, thanks!
[10:29] <Flannel> Or, if you have less than 300GB of data (with both HDs you currently have), move everything onto the 300gb, yank the 120, and add in another one.  without much hassle.
[10:29] <dezinezan> this is why i useally deal with something other than mac's like.. windows or something,  because this isnt working when it says it is
[10:30] <theherbalizer> Flannel: that's what i was thinking of doing
[10:30] <dezinezan> i typed.. "pon dsl-provider" and its running somethnig and making funny codes
[10:31] <Flannel> theherbalizer: IBM appears to be down... but: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lvm/ has a great rundown of what it is and stuff.
[10:31] <theherbalizer> besides, the 300 is sata and this 120 is ide, a little speed boost might be nice
[10:31] <Flannel> theherbalizer: with fancy pictures and everything
[10:31] <theherbalizer> google cache to the rescue
[10:32] <ifndefx2> AzMoo: I think I found it to make it abit better which might assist you, I opened up volume control > file >Change Device > and I had another device which was a little lower, I've increased that and it has made it better. try that dude
[10:32] <Occasus> heyhey
[10:32] <dezinezan> *sigh... idk what the heck is wrong. and iv never used mac before and when i try doing or following what something says, it just fails.. it doesnt work out for me, yet the router shows the 2nd light lite up like its working.. but im not even sure how to get it working.. when i ask you guys.. you give me a link, i follow the link as much as i can, then it leads me to a failed connect
[10:33] <Occasus> what is up dezinezan
[10:33] <Flannel> dezinezan: macs aren't ubuntu, they'd be completely different.  And, all the light (usually) means is the hardware link
[10:33] <dezinezan> ok
[10:34] <dezinezan> whats ubuntu exactly and what is gnome, because when my mom bought the computer it came like this
[10:34] <Fedge> Flannel: I think i've gnome all installed, but when I try to start it up i get "no screens found"
[10:34] <dezinezan> and my dad always used to set everything up
[10:34] <AmaroqWolf> There should be a seperate light on the router for it's connection to the modem. And another light or two on the modem for it's connection to the internet.
[10:34] <dezinezan> hes long gone
[10:34] <AmaroqWolf> gnome is a desktop enviromnent
[10:35] <dezinezan> like WindowBlinds?
[10:35] <Bhaskar> Fedge, can i get this file : libgcj.so.7 in ubuntu 6.06 from where ?
[10:35] <AmaroqWolf> uh, I dunno what WindowBlinds is.
[10:35] <AmaroqWolf> But it's basically what you see when you log in.
[10:35] <dezinezan> its a program that lets you change your theme on windows
[10:36] <dezinezan> ok..
[10:36] <AzMoo> ifndefx2, winner. I didn't think of OSS
[10:36] <dezinezan> something that would help me MUCH more and ALOT better..
[10:36] <AmaroqWolf> I think windows can already change theme. xD But you gotta know how.
[10:37] <AmaroqWolf> And in gnome, I think you can change the theme too.
[10:37] <dezinezan> DOES ANYONE know how to UNiSNTALL and get RID of gnome or ubuntu or what ever this 2nd computer has, and INSTALL windows, so its something im used too, THEN i will know what to do
[10:37] <Madpilot> dezinezan, AmaroqWolf - in Gnome, go System->Preferences->Theme
[10:38] <dezinezan> i dont want to or need to change my theme..
[10:38] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, what do you need help with? Is your router setup working yet?
[10:39] <dezinezan> no its messing up still.. if i could uninstall THIS whats on it and came on it.. the unbuntu/gnome, then INSTALL windows xp on the computer..it would make this alot easyer..
[10:39] <dezinezan> when we put the disc in for windows xp home, at the start-up, it said it couldnt be ran
[10:39] <AzMoo> dezinezan, you can't "uninstall" it. It's an operating system. You just install windows over top.
[10:39] <Rajiv0> Hi... anyone know how to get your bluetooth dialup setup
[10:40] <dezinezan> thats what i thought..
[10:40] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: then you'd have to ask in ##windows, surely, as that's a windows question?  install windows over the top, and tell it to take all the disk
[10:40] <dezinezan> but everytime we run the disc.. it says.. "theres no preesisting windows"
[10:40] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: is it an upgrader disk, by any chance?
[10:41] <dezinezan> its the windows xp home that we installed on this.. its .. DAMIT, stepdad just looked it IS upgrade.. we will have to get the FULL program
[10:41] <dezinezan> is there a way..
[10:41] <unska> where can i set swap drive from?
[10:41] <dezinezan> we could install e-machines over it, and on the e-machines disc it has the actuall full windows
[10:42] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: you'd really hvae to ask in ##windows.  most of us dont try reinstalling windows.
[10:42] <Rajiv0> If you have not preinstall a swap drive you will have to resize the  partition by starting the seutp again
[10:42] <dezinezan> im not REstinalling..
[10:42] <unska> Rajiv0, i have a 2gb empty partition
[10:42] <AzMoo> dezinezan, we can't help you with windows here. Go to ##windows and ask there.
[10:42] <unska> i just want to set it as swap for ubuntu
[10:43] <dezinezan> but im not looking for help with windows
[10:43] <Rajiv0> Okay.. here is what you do.. boot from the linux disc
[10:43] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: you're installing windows over the top?  getting rid of ubuntu?
[10:43] <dezinezan> im looking for help on how to get rid of this .. Ubuntu
[10:43] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: when you install windows, that automatically happens.
[10:43] <Rajiv0> run setup and when it asks you for options
[10:43] <dezinezan> that would help
[10:43] <Rajiv0> Select manually select the partitions
[10:43] <unska> okay
[10:43] <unska> thanks
[10:43] <Flannel> dezinezan: you don't "get rid" of operating sstems, you just install other stuff (windows, in this case) over top of it.
[10:43] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: sure, you can delete ubuntu - but then you wont actually have *any* operating system on your computer, so it wont run.
[10:43] <n4cht> !upgrading
[10:44] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:44] <dezinezan> yea
[10:44] <dezinezan> i see what you are saying..
[10:44] <Rajiv0> and then it will show you the blank partitions
[10:44] <dezinezan> im typing most of what my stepdad is saying..
[10:44] <AzMoo> unska, mkswap /dev/xxx
[10:44] <dezinezan> im starting to understand more just from yuor help
[10:44] <AmaroqWolf> You gotta make sure your windows CD is an installing one, not an upgrading one.
[10:44] <Rajiv0> then select swap partition option
[10:44] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: and your attempt to install windows on the empty partition will give you the same problem - the blank disk doesnt know about windows.
[10:44] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: :)
[10:44] <Rajiv0> that is the most user friendly way
[10:44] <dezinezan> so later i can get windows, the full version
[10:44] <dezinezan> yea
[10:44] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: you cant really do anything until you get the windows full version.
[10:45] <Hobbsee> unless you keep using ubuntu
[10:45] <dezinezan> i didnt relize it was a UPGRADING until JUST NOW
[10:45] <dezinezan> so sorry to look so stupid
[10:45] <Hobbsee> heh, fair enough :)
[10:45] <Hobbsee> it's fine :)
[10:45] <dezinezan> but you have helps very much
[10:45] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:45] <Hobbsee> not a problem
[10:45] <Flannel> unska: you just edit the fstab, to include that partition as swap
[10:45] <liuwei>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:45] <dezinezan> ahmm
[10:46] <dezinezan> its been like 5-6 years since i have membered or used operserv or any of these commands ..
[10:46] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, I think you should give ubuntu a chance. I'd never want to go back to windows, and I doubt anybody else here would either. :P
[10:46] <dezinezan> is it still... ./join ##windows
[10:46] <AzMoo> yea
[10:46] <dezinezan> well.. amaroq..
[10:46] <dezinezan> my sister would be using it..
[10:46] <Hobbsee> dezinezan: yes
[10:46] <AmaroqWolf> it's just /join #windows
[10:47] <dezinezan> we just really need just the net working on it
[10:47] <Hobbsee> AmaroqWolf: both work, but the official channel name is ##windows.
[10:47] <AmaroqWolf> oh
[10:47] <Hobbsee> AmaroqWolf: FYI
[10:47] <dezinezan> if the net was working.. we would keep using it
[10:47] <AmaroqWolf> Okay.
[10:47] <dezinezan> no problem, no mind of what OS it is
[10:47] <cypher1> dezinezan: what is keeping you from using net in Ubuntu
[10:47] <AmaroqWolf> If the net isn't working on your router now, it probably wouldn't work on windows either. Ubuntu auto detects wired networks, as does windows. It's in the router setup, not the OS.
[10:49] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you ping your router ?
[10:49] <Rebecca> hey peoples
[10:49] <Junky> does anyone know a distro that will work on my P965 motherboard (JMicron controler) ?
[10:49] <dezinezan> well.. i havent ever used or setup or ANYTHING on this.. so im not absolute if on this i have to do something before, and someone sent me to this.. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE) and im trying to get it running
[10:49] <AmaroqWolf> If you use a linksys router, try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:49] <dezinezan> i have everything plugged right im sure, and when i run the "wireless" router D-Link disc
[10:50] <dezinezan> I WANTED LINKSYS my mom got D-LINK
[10:50] <dezinezan> :(
[10:50] <AmaroqWolf> er
[10:50] <AmaroqWolf> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:50] <dezinezan> we had used linksys in the past
[10:50] <dezinezan> but my mom wanted me to try something new
[10:50] <dezinezan> -_-
[10:50] <AmaroqWolf> well, you said now you have a linksys wireless router
[10:50] <Flannel> dezinezan: those disks don't do a whole lot, if anything at all.
[10:50] <dezinezan> sorry, i dont mean to type and press enter on so many lines..
[10:50] <Chousuke> what model would you have gotten?
[10:50] <Junky> [10:49]  Junky: does anyone know a distro that will work on my P965 motherboard (JMicron controler) ?
[10:50] <Junky> please help me !!!
[10:50] <Junky> :D
[10:50] <Chousuke> the newer WRT54Gs are bad.
[10:51] <AmaroqWolf> in your terminal, try typing ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:51] <Chousuke> they do their job I suppose but you can't hack them ;(
[10:51] <Rebecca> im having a problem with the auto mount feature. when i plug in my camera (it's a standard usb mass storage device to the system) the automount tries to load "camera://Olympus X-450@[usb:004,022] /" and the normal /media/usbblah mounting fails.. occasionally it works but only when im repeatedly plug/unplugging it and i somehow confuse the camera mounting feature long enough for a standard usb mount to work. does anyone know how to disabl
[10:51] <Rebecca> e this camera mounting thingy?
[10:51] <dezinezan> no i said i have a D-Link Wireless Router
[10:51] <YoshiG3> Wow, ubuntu is really turning out great
[10:51] <cypher1> dezinezan: you can use "iwconfig" command to see whether your router has been recognized
[10:51] <AmaroqWolf> oh, D-Link
[10:51] <AmaroqWolf> I'm not sure what IP address those use.
[10:51] <YoshiG3> Able to play all my games in wine, and it runs much faster, I'm extremely happy with ubuntu :D
[10:52] <dezinezan> alright.. do i type that in the terminal?
[10:52] <cypher1> dezinezan: yes
[10:52] <AmaroqWolf> I believe so
[10:52] <dezinezan> i heard linux was a hacking/gaming based OS
[10:52] <dezinezan> honestly.. im not sure
[10:52] <cypher1> dezinezan: you can paste it @ pastebin
[10:52] <cypher1> !pastebin | dezinezan
[10:52] <ubotu> dezinezan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:52] <AmaroqWolf> lol that's for wireles
[10:52] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, try ifconfig.
[10:53] <cypher1> dezinezan: i thought you were trying for wireless! pls correct me if not
[10:53] <frogzoo> dezinezan: to be pedantic, ubuntu is based on the linux kernel, gnu tools, and gnome/kde desktop with sun's openoffice as the office suite
[10:53] <AmaroqWolf> He does have a wireless router, but he doesn't care whether it's wireless or wired. He just wants internet.
[10:53] <dezinezan> im trying to do anything that will get internet on the 2nd computer.. wireless or not
[10:53] <AmaroqWolf> Is internet working on the 1st one?
[10:53] <dezinezan> THANK YOU Amaroq
[10:53] <dezinezan> yes
[10:53] <cypher1> dezinezan: cool then start with "wired"
[10:53] <dezinezan> thats the one im on
[10:54] <Junky> [10:49]  Junky: does anyone know a distro that will work on my P965 motherboard (JMicron controler) ?
[10:54] <Junky> please ?!
[10:54] <AmaroqWolf> Where is it hooked up to on the router?
[10:54] <frogzoo> Junky: google linux  P965 motherboard (JMicron controler)
[10:54] <dezinezan> the first slot?
[10:54] <dezinezan> but i had to create a new connection
[10:54] <cypher1> dezinezan: please do "netstat -in" and "netstat -rn"
[10:54] <dezinezan> and on the other.. im not sure how to do it on mac
[10:54] <dezinezan> i typed the last thing you said
[10:54] <AmaroqWolf> well, then hook up to the second one to the second slow
[10:54] <dezinezan> the ifconfig
[10:54] <Rebecca> does anyone know about my mounting issue?
[10:54] <AmaroqWolf> ah
[10:55] <dezinezan> umm
[10:55] <dezinezan> i cant paste from the other comp
[10:55] <AmaroqWolf> go to pastebin, and paste what it said so we can see
[10:55] <AmaroqWolf> actually
[10:55] <AmaroqWolf> is there a section that says eth0?
[10:55] <cypher1> Rebecca: i am not sure.. but i guess you can read about udev rules
[10:56] <frogzoo> Rebecca: sys -> prefs -> removable media -> camera - may help
[10:56] <Rebecca> frogzoo: do you know how it could help?
[10:56] <Rebecca> i have looked there already
[10:56] <dezinezan> one sec
[10:56] <frogzoo> Rebecca: you can disable the automount that way...
[10:56] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, when you did ifconfig, there should be two sections, eth0 and lo, right?
[10:56] <dezinezan> ill see if i can put on disc and put on this.. so i can paste.. not sure if it will work
[10:56] <dezinezan> oh
[10:56] <dezinezan> ahmm
[10:56] <dezinezan> yeas
[10:57] <dezinezan> eth0 & lo
[10:57] <AmaroqWolf> lo is local, and eth0 is your ethernet card.
[10:57] <AmaroqWolf> under the eth0 one, what does it say for inet addr: ?
[10:57] <frogzoo> Rebecca: oh, only the autoimport can be disabled, not the mounting itself
[10:57] <cypher1> frogzoo: will udev rules help for Rebecca ?
[10:57] <dezinezan> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:58] <Rebecca> frogzoo: are you talking about peripherals -> digital camera in Kcontrol?
[10:58] <frogzoo> cypher1: the whole HAL/udev thing is black magic to me
[10:58] <dezinezan> O_O ?
[10:58] <AmaroqWolf> that's your IP address.
[10:58] <frogzoo> Rebecca: for kde, I suppose so
[10:58] <dezinezan> ok..
[10:58] <Rebecca> i use kubuntu.. but you guys have been vastly more helpful than ##kubuntu thus far
[10:58] <dezinezan> what exactly i do?
[10:58] <AmaroqWolf> what happens if you open a browser?
[10:59] <AmaroqWolf> like firefox or something
[10:59] <Rebecca> where are udev rules configured?
[10:59] <dezinezan> it says..
[10:59] <cypher1> Rebecca: /etc/udev/rules.d
[10:59] <dezinezan> Welcome to Ubuntu 6.10
[10:59] <AmaroqWolf> what happens if you try to go to a web page?
[10:59] <dezinezan> its just info for that, and its already ON the computer
[10:59] <AmaroqWolf> like www.yahoo.com or something
[10:59] <cypher1> Rebecca: but i am not sure.. you need to read before you try anything there
[10:59] <dezinezan> it just sits there for a sec
[10:59] <dezinezan> then says..
[11:00] <frogzoo> Rebecca: you might check /var/log/messages for whinges
[11:00] <Rebecca> argh.. this is so frustrating.. can i just remove the 'feature' somehow?
[11:00] <dezinezan> it just says.. "Looking up yahoo.com" at the bottom
[11:00] <dezinezan> and then stays doing that for about 5mins
[11:00] <AmaroqWolf> hmm
[11:00] <cypher1> dezinezan: do you have "default" in "netstat -rn" output ?
[11:00] <AmaroqWolf> well, I have an idea. I dunno if it's the problem, but it's worth a shot.
[11:01] <dezinezan> honestly cypher, i have no diea what you just said
[11:01] <dezinezan> :(
[11:01] <dezinezan> default or netstat -rn?
[11:01] <dezinezan> ok Wolf
[11:01] <cypher1> dezinezan: you can type "netstat -rn" in a terminal and see whether the output has an entry with "default"
[11:01] <dezinezan> kk ill try that real fast
[11:01] <Rebecca> this would be a show stopper for a lot of people :/
[11:02] <AmaroqWolf> hmm, I'm doing it too. my default is inet
[11:02] <dezinezan> im not sure exactly what im looking for.. it says..
[11:02] <dezinezan> some code or somethnig then it says..
[11:02] <dezinezan> default: inet, is that what your asking..?
[11:02] <frogzoo> Rebecca: HAL is going through major changes atm
[11:02] <dezinezan> it finally said on the browser..
[11:03] <cypher1> dezinezan: sorry you need to type "netstat -an".. sorry for that
[11:03] <dezinezan> "Server not found ... Firefox cant find the server at www.yahoo.com."
[11:03] <cypher1> dezinezan: sorry you need to type "netstat -ar".. sorry for that
[11:03] <Rebecca> frogzoo: what is HAL?.... other than the 2001 computer i assume
[11:03] <dezinezan> no problem cypher
[11:03] <dezinezan> ok
[11:03] <dezinezan> what i looking for now?
[11:03] <ardchoille> Rebecca: Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL)
[11:03] <cypher1> Rebecca: HAL == Hardware Abstraction Layer
[11:04] <Rebecca> ardchoille: ok
[11:04] <AmaroqWolf> wow, the output for that is long cypher1
[11:04] <cypher1> dezinezan: for "default".. what does it say
[11:04] <dezinezan> it says Default <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:04] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you please ping that ip address ?
[11:04] <stubblechin> hi, i've installed an ubuntu dapper system with debootstrap. however, it's behaving like a plain debian, not like ubuntu. i log in as root, and any user i create can su to root. there's no admin group. how can i turn this install into a real ubuntu? am i missing a step?
[11:04] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: thats your routing table :)
[11:04] <dezinezan> iv always heard the term "ping" but not sure what that means.. :(
[11:05] <cypher1> dezinezan: do "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" in a terminal
[11:05] <dezinezan> ah ok
[11:05] <ifndefx2> hey does anyone know if there is a program which copies the music from an IPOD to my computer ?
[11:05] <AmaroqWolf> I don't see a default on it
[11:05] <AmaroqWolf> can I just pipe it to grep default?
[11:05] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: did you try "netstat -ra" only ?
[11:06] <AmaroqWolf> ooh
[11:06] <dezinezan> its like "flooding" with info
[11:06] <AmaroqWolf> I did -an
[11:06] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, it's pinging the same address over and over again.
[11:06] <AmaroqWolf> What's it saying?
[11:06] <dezinezan> yes..? im not sure what ping is
[11:06] <cypher1> dezinezan: do you similar to "64 bytes from..."
[11:06] <dezinezan> yes
[11:06] <dezinezan> it says that
[11:06] <cypher1> dezinezan: cool
[11:06] <AmaroqWolf> pinging is sending a packet to that address and measuring the time it takes to return.
[11:07] <metamoss> ifndefx2: I think there's a program called gtkpod that will do it
[11:07] <Rebecca>  /var/log/messages was no help. anywhere else i can look.. im only trying to mount a usb drive... :/
[11:07] <dezinezan> oh ok
[11:07] <Rajiv3> Man I swear soemone shoudl make ubuntu more bluetooth friendly
[11:07] <stubblechin> ifndefx2-i think Amarok does that. http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod
[11:07] <dezinezan> cypher1: "cool" ?
[11:07] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you please ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:07] <dezinezan> yea
[11:07] <ifndefx2> metamoss : cool thanks i 'll give it a go
[11:07] <dezinezan> how do i stop the currect
[11:07] <frogzoo> Rebecca: if you run 'dbus-monitor --system' it will spit out some debug info if you insert the device
[11:08] <AmaroqWolf> ctrl+c
[11:08] <dezinezan> its still pinging
[11:08] <Rebecca> frogzoo: ok
[11:08] <dezinezan> thank you
[11:08] <metamoss> ifndefx2: if you're using KDE, stubblechin's suggestion of amarok might be easier though
[11:08] <ifndefx2> stubblechin: Amarok ?
[11:08] <stubblechin> yes, it's an iTunes clone
[11:09] <AmaroqWolf> Contrary to popular belief, I did not take my name from Amarok. lol
[11:09] <dezinezan> it says unreachable
[11:09] <dezinezan> everytime
[11:09] <cypher1> dezinezan: ah
[11:09] <stubblechin> LOL AmaroqWolf
[11:09] <AmaroqWolf> ctrl+c again, to stop it.
[11:09] <cbx33> Hi all if I have a line like this in my fstab....... /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 /
[11:09] <Rebecca> frogzoo: dbus-monitor: command not found
[11:09] <dezinezan> stopped..
[11:09] <ifndefx2> no I'm using gnome, rhythmbox seems to be a Itunes clone, but it can only copy to the ipod and not the other way around.
[11:09] <cbx33> is there any way to mount just the home dir that's under it?
[11:09] <AmaroqWolf> lol stubblechin, I actually got it from a book, julie of the wolves.
[11:09] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you log in to your router and see you are connected to the internet ?
[11:09] <cbx33> ctaully don;t worry
[11:09] <cbx33> I thikn I'l do it another way
[11:10] <dezinezan> login to my router?
[11:10] <stubblechin> AmaroqWolf, never heard of it, is it good? Should i look it up on amazon?
[11:10] <AmaroqWolf> in your browser, dezinezan, type your router's IP address. <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:10] <cypher1> dezinezan: yes ... you can do "http://<IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:10] <dezinezan> on this comp?
[11:10] <AmaroqWolf> stubblechin, if you like wolves, it's a good book. Especially the third in the series.
[11:10] <cypher1> dezinezan: yes
[11:10] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, on the ubuntu one
[11:10] <stubblechin> cool! i'll check it out
[11:10] <dezinezan> on the ubuntu one
[11:11] <dezinezan> or THIS one?
[11:11] <AmaroqWolf> If you can get to it on the ubuntu one, it'll mean you are connected
[11:11] <cypher1> dezinezan: THIS one
[11:11] <dezinezan> kk
[11:11] <cypher1> dezinezan: sorry ubuntu one
[11:11] <AmaroqWolf> :P
[11:11] <cypher1> i guess both should be ok :)
[11:11] <Rebecca> frogzoo: ?
[11:11] <dezinezan> ahmm
[11:11] <AmaroqWolf> Yeah, they should be okay actually. Since he pinged it earlier.
[11:11] <dezinezan> it went to a login
[11:12] <AmaroqWolf> no username, password admin.
[11:12] <dezinezan> i dont remember settnig up a password or anything
[11:12] <AmaroqWolf> I think
[11:12] <AmaroqWolf> linksys does it that way anyway
[11:12] <ifndefx2> ahhh kool GTKPOD does what I wanted it to do. Thanks heaps
[11:12] <AmaroqWolf> It should have some default password, dezinezan. It's manual should be able to tell you what it is.
[11:12] <frogzoo> Rebecca: seems you don't have dbus-1-utils for some reason
[11:13] <metamoss> np
[11:13] <cypher1> dezinezan: probably.. admin and admin ;)
[11:13] <lowfi> dezinezan, i'd guess it's admin/1234
[11:13] <dezinezan> would the password be made when installing the router?
[11:14] <Flannel> dezinezan: the password would probably be whatever the routers default is
[11:14] <dezinezan> admin.. fail .. 123 .. fail
[11:14] <mistform> or you can just reset the router and then get the default password
[11:14] <AmaroqWolf> try administrator
[11:14] <dezinezan> im not even sure the default
[11:14] <Rebecca> frogzoo: installing now
[11:14] <AmaroqWolf> as the pass, the username should be blank
[11:14] <dezinezan> administrator - fail
[11:16] <AmaroqWolf> hmm, off the current task a little bit... try to ping www.yahoo.com
[11:16] <dezinezan> ok
[11:16] <dezinezan> it does nothing at all
[11:17] <CheshireViking> dezinezean: i set up a linksys router for my parents a couple of days ago, the login & password for that was Admin & Admin (maybe admin & admin) hope that helps
[11:17] <Rebecca> frogzoo: am i looking for something particular in the output?
[11:17] <metamoss> could someone please tell me how to permanently store an alias I've created?
[11:17] <AmaroqWolf> CheshireViking, my linksys was blank for user and admin for password.
[11:17] <AmaroqWolf> what'd it do dezinezan?
[11:17] <dezinezan> DAMIT, people keep making me want linkskeys more.. i wanted it.. not D-Link
[11:17] <dezinezan> it said..
[11:18] <dezinezan> ping: unknown host www.yahoo.com
[11:18] <AmaroqWolf> hmm
[11:18] <lowfi> metamoss, add it to ~/.bashrc
[11:18] <Rebecca> dezinezan: d-link blows.. i know.. i have one :)(
[11:18] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you please do "cat /etc/resolv.conf" ?
[11:18] <dezinezan> AHGHHww
[11:18] <dezinezan> they said it was better
[11:18] <dezinezan> i knew i wanted linkseys
[11:18] <AmaroqWolf> try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:19] <metamoss> lowfi: ah, thanks!
[11:19] <Rebecca> dezinezan: never listen to 'they' again...
[11:19] <CheshireViking> AmaroqWolf: this was a recently bought one - i'm just checking what the model number for that one was
[11:19] <dezinezan> i wont. thank you Rebecca
[11:19] <cypher1> Rebecca: ???
[11:19] <Rebecca> i only have d-link because when my last modem died, also a dlink, i was in a hurry to get it replaced and the stores only had... D-Link! argh
[11:20] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, I have a list of d-link routers on my browser now. What model is yours?
[11:20] <dezinezan> its..
[11:20] <AmaroqWolf> http://www.phenoelit.de/dpl/dpl.html
[11:20] <dezinezan> DIR-625
[11:20] <cypher1> dezinezan: AmaroqWolf i have a doubt on DNS server settings
[11:20] <Rebecca> d-link's firmware web config is also very fussy. often you can't admin it using firefox. requires IE for some stupid reason..
[11:20] <lowfi> phenoelit ,lol
[11:20] <cypher1> dezinezan: AmaroqWolf we cannot rely on ping of IP addresses since the router may be blocking it
[11:21] <AmaroqWolf> ah
[11:21] <dezinezan> what exactly does that mean..? cause im lost
[11:21] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: i meant the ping replies
[11:21] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you please do "cat /etc/resolv.conf" ?
[11:21] <dezinezan> routers blocking what now?
[11:21] <dezinezan> yea
[11:21] <dezinezan> i did
[11:21] <dezinezan> it says..
[11:21] <dezinezan> bash: cat/etc/reolv.conf: No such file or directory
[11:22] <dezinezan> im thinking they just wanted me to buy D-Link because it costed more..
[11:22] <cypher1> dezinezan: there is no space between cat and rest
[11:22] <dezinezan> res?
[11:22] <dezinezan> rest?
[11:22] <Rebecca> you about frogzoo ?
[11:22] <cypher1> its "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[11:22] <caturOK> how to set eth0:0 at shorewall interfaces
[11:22] <dezinezan> oh i spelled it wrong back to you..
[11:23] <dezinezan> it says..
[11:23] <Enola_Gay> hi all
[11:23] <Enola_Gay> Is there a reason why laptop-mode has no entry under the rcS?
[11:23] <dezinezan> bash: cat/etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory
[11:23] <AmaroqWolf> you gotta space between cat and /etc
[11:24] <cypher1> dezinezan: do you know the IP address of your DNS servers ?
[11:24] <AmaroqWolf> cat is a command
[11:24] <dezinezan> cypher1: i dont..
[11:24] <dezinezan> so how exactly i type it in?
[11:24] <cypher1> i gotta run out for 5-10 min.. sorry..
[11:24] <AmaroqWolf> cat /etc/resolve.conf
[11:24] <dezinezan> cat/ etc ... ?
[11:25] <AmaroqWolf> yes
[11:25] <dezinezan> ah ok
[11:25] <cypher1|away> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:25] <dezinezan> ok
[11:25] <dezinezan> it says..
[11:25] <dezinezan> search myhome.westell.com
[11:25] <AmaroqWolf> ah, I was wrong. no e in resolv
[11:25] <dezinezan> nameserver and my ip
[11:25] <dezinezan> and
[11:25] <dezinezan> i know its going thru
[11:26] <dezinezan> because i never put any westell on that computer
[11:26] <Rebecca> does anyone know how i can reconfig auto mount to NOT mount my usb mass storage device as a 'camera'?
[11:26] <AmaroqWolf> hmm, I have nameserver three times, and a different IP for each.
[11:26] <dezinezan> the reg. modem is westell
[11:26] <kurumin> teste
[11:26] <dezinezan> thats what it said
[11:27] <AmaroqWolf> what is the IP after nameserver?
[11:27] <dezinezan> ..
[11:27] <dezinezan> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:27] <AmaroqWolf> hmm...
[11:27] <AmaroqWolf> it's using your router as a nameserver. While mine is not. Is that right cypher1
[11:27] <dezinezan> im totally lost.. the only thing im doing or keeping up by is answering questions your asking
[11:28] <dezinezan> cypher had to run out for 5-10mins im not sure if hes there still.. he mite be afk
[11:28] <AmaroqWolf> oh, okay.
[11:28] <AmaroqWolf> We may have found the problem. Just gotta wait till he gets back.
[11:28] <dezinezan> ok
[11:28] <dezinezan> i really hope so
[11:29] <lowfi> Rebecca, disable hotplug for mass storage devices or usb, there must be an option somewhere in kcontrol
[11:29] <Rebecca> lowfi: ill look
[11:29] <lowfi> Rebecca, i don't use kde, but there is one in gnome
[11:29] <dezinezan> i really hope we go through all this and come out with SOMETHING new or working.. because im lost.. im putting full trust into you guys to help me through this
[11:30] <AmaroqWolf> cypher1|away, we may have found the problem. Just gotta wait till you get back since I don't know what to do now.
[11:30] <dezinezan> and i thank you for helping me, because i wouldnt have gotten this far without your help
[11:30] <AmaroqWolf> x3 we're glad to help.
[11:30] <Rebecca> lowfi: not sure how to do that :/
[11:30] <dezinezan> Wolf you have access to operserv?
[11:30] <AmaroqWolf> What is operserv?
[11:31] <dezinezan> everyone is blue im just trying to see who is oper
[11:31] <AmaroqWolf> nope, no access
[11:31] <dezinezan> operserv has commands like lock, kill, klone
[11:31] <dezinezan> you are just here to help?
[11:31] <AmaroqWolf> Everyone is basically.
[11:32] <dezinezan> cool
[11:32] <AmaroqWolf> We ask for help when we need it, and give help when we can.
[11:32] <dezinezan> aww i cant use /info
[11:32] <dezinezan> lol
[11:33] <dezinezan> OperServ	Access Denied - no O-line
[11:33] <dezinezan> oh well
[11:33] <dezinezan> dont want it anyway
[11:33] <dezinezan> just here for help
[11:33] <dezinezan> :)
[11:33] <dezinezan> its weird though, i havent seen this type of chat for long time
[11:33] <VoX> hey, how do i temporarily disable automount?
[11:34] <Amon-san> hi, is there a distcc howto available? i searched the wiki but did not find anything useful
[11:34] <Cryoniq> I been wondering about something in my system.. When I run an application in gnome etc. It feels like CPU load affect graphics.. like when I move windows etc they glitch a little. What could be the cause of that? CPU shouldnt affect GFX stuff like this.. hmm
[11:34] <dezinezan> ah wow
[11:34] <dezinezan> it still has ChanSev
[11:35] <AmaroqWolf> dezinezan, did you see what I just said? xD We just had someone tell a newbie to do that, and wiped his entire drive.
[11:35] <dezinezan> tod o what?
[11:35] <dezinezan> *to do
[11:36] <Bogaurd> hey, i'm trying to do apt-get install linux-k7-smp, which says it's been installed, but it shows as having installed a 25kb package... and def does not install the kernel
[11:36] <dezinezan> sorry, i didnt see the nickserv, and chanserv commands where scrolling past
[11:36] <Bogaurd> any ideas?
[11:36] <AmaroqWolf> An hour or two ago, someone told a newbie to sudo rm -rs. It deleted his entire hard drive.
[11:36] <Cryoniq> 0o
[11:36] <dezinezan> would that help>?
[11:36] <AmaroqWolf> nooo, that's very dangerous
[11:36] <dezinezan> probably be bad for computer
[11:36] <dezinezan> lol
[11:37] <AmaroqWolf> you lose everything
[11:37] <metamoss> dezinezan: the result of 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' for you was 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>', yes?
[11:37] <dezinezan> right now it wouldnt lose nothing
[11:37] <dezinezan> i have nothing on that computer..
[11:37] <Chousuke> what does the -s switch do?
[11:37] <AmaroqWolf> no, you'd lose everything literally
[11:37] <yommb> amaroq : serious ?
[11:37] <AmaroqWolf> Ubuntu, everything
[11:37] <dezinezan> yes metamoss
[11:37] <yommb> omg
[11:37] <dezinezan> web cyper
[11:37] <AmaroqWolf> rm is remove
[11:37] <AmaroqWolf> the -r flag is recursive
[11:37] <Chousuke> rm is, yes.
[11:37] <Chousuke> but -s?
[11:37] <cypher1> i guess we can try putting a public DNS nameserver ip in /etc/resolv.conf and see whether it works
[11:37] <AmaroqWolf> I'm not sure about -s
[11:37] <ahave> anyone know of a ubuntu torrent that is active?
[11:37] <metamoss> it seems like dhcp isn't working
[11:37] <Cryoniq> aye.. that command removes ALL files on whole system from root and up
[11:37] <Chousuke> It's not in the manual page.
[11:38] <Haffy> How do I install freenx, I need Seveas.. How do I fix that?
[11:38] <metamoss> my /etc/resolv.conf has my ISP's DNS in it
[11:38] <metamoss> or are we way past that all?
[11:38] <cypher1> metamoss: yes most should have like that only
[11:38] <AmaroqWolf> cypher1, is there a way to make it auto-detect some nameservers?
[11:38] <Bogaurd> what's the correct way to install the right kernel for my machine? apt-get install linux-k7-smp isnt working.
[11:38] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: DHCP
[11:38] <AmaroqWolf> I know I didn't enter my three nameservers. lol
[11:38] <Cryoniq> rm and a few other commands should be handled with great care when one have root clearance
[11:38] <AmaroqWolf> ah
[11:39] <AmaroqWolf> Maybe his router doesn't have DHCP set up on it, cypher1
[11:39] <metamoss> ah
[11:39] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: does anyone know of a public DNS ip address ?
[11:39] <snail> Bogaurd: "apt-cache search k7-smp" will find the names of packages to install
[11:39] <Haffy> How do I install Seveas packages, so I can install FreeNX??
[11:39] <AmaroqWolf> cypher1, could I give him one of my current nameservers?
[11:40] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: yes we can try that
[11:40] <Cryoniq> he he I knew a guy who was administering a SQL Informix server handling tons of requests for 10's of thousands of users.. and he was tired that morning.. I heard a .. ooops.. then a.. shi.. and then an almost crying voice.. oh no!
[11:40] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: is he on a pm ?
[11:40] <Cryoniq> Backups ftw is all I can say :)
[11:40] <AmaroqWolf> I'll give all three. <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:40] <AmaroqWolf> No, no pm
[11:41] <AzMoo> AmaroqWolf, it's not -rs it's -rf, recursive and force.
[11:41] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: ok
[11:41] <AmaroqWolf> AzMoo, okay.
[11:41] <AmaroqWolf> I forgot.
[11:42] <Barre> Hi. I'm trying to install 6.06 on a HP DL380 G5, but the installation doesn't find the NIC's. I've tried to modprobe the tg3 but no luck. Can anyone point me to a solution?
[11:42] <Haffy> Anyone?
[11:42] <dezinezan> Wolf..
[11:42] <dezinezan> im not sure what to do
[11:42] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you please do "sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf"
[11:42] <dezinezan> was those codes for me?
[11:42] <AmaroqWolf> cypher can help you with those
[11:42] <AmaroqWolf> I gave them so cypher can tell you what to put in.
[11:42] <cypher1> dezinezan: then add "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:43] <cypher1> dezinezan: in the next line "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:43] <dezinezan> is it ..
[11:43] <dezinezan> vi /
[11:43] <dezinezan> or ..
[11:43] <dezinezan> vi/
[11:43] <AmaroqWolf> yes, a space
[11:43] <dezinezan> its space
[11:43] <cypher1> dezinezan: in the next line "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:43] <dezinezan> k
[11:43] <dezinezan> ty
[11:43] <blahish> just wondering if someone can help me. after 3 failed download attempts i finally got ubuntu to download properly. when i checked it with the winmd5sum thingo is says the check sums are different. what on earth does this mean
[11:43] <cypher1> dezinezan: OT.. btw where are you from ?
[11:43] <dezinezan> type the very first thing first, then type the add, then type that 3rd?
[11:43] <AmaroqWolf>  / is the root directory
[11:44] <dezinezan> from Alaska ^^
[11:44] <AmaroqWolf> so /etc is the etc folder in that.
[11:44] <Bogaurd> snail, it only lists 2.4 kernel packages
[11:44] <AmaroqWolf> no, just type nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:44] <AmaroqWolf> then do the next ones he told you
[11:44] <Bogaurd> it says it's obsoleted by linux-generic
[11:44] <dezinezan> ahmm.. it asking for password
[11:44] <dezinezan> O_O
[11:45] <cypher1> dezinezan: pls type your password
[11:45] <dezinezan> ah
[11:45] <snail> Bogaurd: then there are no packages in the repositories you have in your sources.list for your architecture for anything else
[11:45] <dezinezan> wasnt sure what pass
[11:45] <AmaroqWolf> It just wants the password because you're editing a system file.
[11:45] <blahish> anyone?
[11:45] <dezinezan> now add..?
[11:45] <dezinezan> yea, i wasnt sure the pass
[11:46] <dezinezan> cause its new comp. its taped on front.. but wasnt sure
[11:46] <dezinezan> got it though
[11:46] <dezinezan> what now?
[11:46] <dezinezan> add?
[11:46] <cypher1> dezinezan: yes
[11:46] <dezinezan> its beeping
[11:47] <AmaroqWolf> cypher1, there's alot of tildes I see
[11:47] <dezinezan> and i cant go to a next line
[11:47] <dezinezan> it just beeps
[11:47] <AmaroqWolf> perhaps we should have had him use gedit
[11:47] <blahish> no one can help me?
[11:47] <dezinezan> and the 1 went away
[11:47] <lowfi> blahish, the file is (probably) corrupt.
[11:47] <AmaroqWolf> terminal editors = complexity
[11:48] <blahish> another one i downloaded had different checksums 2
[11:48] <blahish> why is everyone im downloading faulty?
[11:48] <dezinezan> cypher
[11:48] <cypher1> dezinezan: sorry disconnected
[11:48] <dezinezan> it just beeps, and the 1 in the IP thing got deleted
[11:48] <dezinezan> i cant go to the next line..
[11:48] <dezinezan> its ok
[11:48] <dezinezan> Wolf said..
[11:48] <blahish> ive wasted over 2 gig of my quota :(
[11:49] <cypher1> dezinezan: press i.. then type "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[11:49] <dezinezan> AmaroqWolf	cypher1, there's alot of tildes I see
[11:49] <AmaroqWolf> cypher1, perhaps we should have him use gedit. terminal editors are complex.
[11:49] <cypher1> AmaroqWolf: yes :(
[11:49] <cypher1> dezinezan: can you press ":q!"
[11:49] <lowfi> blahish, just burn it and try - better than downloading it again
[11:49] <dezinezan> im not being able to type anything at the moment
[11:50] <dezinezan> its doing something weird..
[11:50] <blahish> so its not going to blow up my computer or put anything nasty on rofl!
[11:50] <dezinezan> it says..
[11:50] <Bogaurd> snail: should I need to add any repositories?
[11:50] <AmaroqWolf> what happens if you press q?
[11:50] <dezinezan> Nameserver 192.168.0iiiiiiiii
[11:50] <dezinezan> nothin..
[11:50] <Bogaurd> snail: it says i already have the latest version... first time i tried to install it installed something 25kb big
[11:51] <AmaroqWolf> hmm. I suppose you can just close your terminal and reopen it.
[11:51] <Bogaurd> not the actual kernel though.,
[11:51] <snail> Bogaurd: i have no idea, i know almost nothing about the kernel
[11:51] <dezinezan> ahm,.. with all the people typing, i lost on what to do if i where to "start over" closing the terminal and reopeing
[11:51] <aalhamad> how can i put a clock or a weather detector or Calender .. etc on my desktop?
[11:51] <AmaroqWolf> instead of vi, try  sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[11:52] <snail> Bogaurd: is there a specific reason for needing the custom kernerl for your architecture?
[11:52] <ahave> ahave
[11:52] <dezinezan> k
[11:52] <ahave> ahave ahave: hi
[11:52] <Bogaurd> snail: well my cpu has dual cores, i'd prefer to take advantage of that, rather than just running a 286 kernel..
[11:52] <Bogaurd> 286, rather**
[11:52] <Bogaurd> 386, damnit.
[11:52] <metamoss> aalhamad: if you right-click on the panel, and select "add to panel" from the menu that pops up, you can add all sorts of applets like that
[11:53] <snail> Bogaurd: have you checked that your current kernel isn't already taking advantage?
[11:53] <dezinezan> WHAT the
[11:53] <AmaroqWolf> It should open a new window
[11:53] <dezinezan> oh.. thats normal
[11:53] <dezinezan> lol
[11:53] <AmaroqWolf> lol
[11:53] <AmaroqWolf> gedit is a text editing program
[11:53] <dezinezan> ok it flooded the other termial screen
[11:53] <AmaroqWolf> well, vi is too. But gedit does it in a window
[11:54] <AmaroqWolf> well, my gedit didn't flood it. xD
[11:54] <Bogaurd> well it's just 2.6.17-10-386... so it's the 386 kernel, no?
[11:54] <dezinezan> it says..
[11:54] <aalhamad> metamoss, yes but i want it to be shown
[11:54] <dezinezan> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: ..
[11:54] <dezinezan> an says that OVER and OVER
[11:54] <aalhamad> plz chech http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/shots.xml for seeing what i mean :)
[11:55] <AmaroqWolf> oh. That sounds like a gedit problem.
[11:55] <aalhamad> metamoss,
[11:55] <AmaroqWolf> well, there should be two lines in the window right?
[11:55] <dezinezan> im not sure what gedit program even is
[11:55] <dezinezan> yea
[11:55] <AmaroqWolf> search and nameserver
[11:55] <dezinezan> yea
[11:55] <jengc0il> hello
[11:55] <AmaroqWolf> add the following lines:
[11:55] <AmaroqWolf> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:55] <AmaroqWolf> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:55] <AmaroqWolf> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:56] <dezinezan> hi jenc0il
[11:56] <dezinezan> ok
[11:56] <AmaroqWolf> Then save the file
[11:57] <dezinezan> does Save or Save As make a difference?
[11:57] <AmaroqWolf> Save
[11:57] <dezinezan> ok
[11:57] <metamoss> aalhamad: ok, that's a KDE desktop. Are you using KDE or Gnome?
[11:57] <AmaroqWolf> you want to save the changes to the current file, not save a new one.
[11:57] <dezinezan> that way it saves over it.. right?
[11:57] <AmaroqWolf> yes
[11:58] <dezinezan> yea, i see what you mean, just not understanding at all
[11:58] <dezinezan> lol
[11:58] <AmaroqWolf> lol
[11:58] <dezinezan> saved..?
[11:58] <felixhummel> !mouse
[11:58] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:58] <aalhamad> metamoss, im using gnome
[11:58] <AmaroqWolf> Once you do that, close everything, log out of the computer, then log back in and try to use the internet.
[11:58] <felixhummel> how can I enable mouse support on the console?
[11:58] <dezinezan> ok..?
[11:58] <dezinezan> kk
[11:58] <dezinezan> everything?
[11:58] <Baoss> does Xfmedia program plays m2v format
[11:58] <dezinezan> go to login screen.. or shut it down?
[11:58] <AmaroqWolf> well, logging out would log outta everything anyway xD
[11:59] <AmaroqWolf> um, I think login screen should be good enough
[11:59] <AmaroqWolf> I'm not sure though.
[11:59] <dezinezan> lol
[11:59] <Baoss> does Xfmedia program plays m2v format?
[11:59] <dezinezan> so reboot?
[11:59] <AmaroqWolf> Your choice. Either log out and in, or reboot.
[11:59] <dezinezan> ok
[11:59] <dezinezan> stepdad gonna reboot
[12:00] <dezinezan> i would ask cypher and wolf ... "asl?" but i dont wanna get told this isnt a "chat channel, its a help channel" :(
[12:00] <lowfi> felixhummel, install gpm
[12:00] <dezinezan> computer rebooting
[12:00] <metamoss> aalhamad, alright, there's a program you can use called gkrellm
[12:00] <AmaroqWolf> I'm 20, male, Illinois, if you're curious.
[12:00] <AzMoo> You shouldn't need to reboot or logout for resolv.conf
[12:01] <aalhamad> ok thanks
[12:01] <AmaroqWolf> Oh, you shouldn't?
[12:01] <metamoss> search for it in synaptic, and you'll find plugins for it, like a weather monitor, etc.
[12:01] <AzMoo> nope.
[12:01] <dezinezan> O_O Illinous
[12:01] <dezinezan> Illinois*
[12:01] <dezinezan> awesome
[12:01] <AmaroqWolf> Illinois, indeed. :P
[12:01] <dezinezan> cool
[12:01] <dezinezan> ok
[12:01] <dezinezan> its up again
[12:01] <dezinezan> try internet?
[12:01] <AmaroqWolf> yup
[12:01] <AmaroqWolf> go to something like, www.yahoo.com
[12:02] <Baoss> IdleOne does Xfmedia program plays m2v format?
[12:02] <dezinezan> its doing the same thing :(
[12:02] <AmaroqWolf> aw
[12:02] <AmaroqWolf> hmm
[12:02] <dezinezan> from the info i gave you.. does that give any hint on if everything IS or ISNT connected 100% CORRECT?
[12:03] <Bogaurd> argh
[12:03] <Bogaurd> how can this be :S
[12:03] <AmaroqWolf> well, I have one idea. sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf again
[12:03] <Bogaurd> i'm using the sam repositories as always
[12:03] <Rebecca> how do i enable ssh.. it's installed and running but connections are refused
[12:03] <Bogaurd> but i can't install linux-k7-smp
[12:03] <dezinezan> ok
[12:03] <AmaroqWolf> this time, remove the nameserver that has your router's IP address.
[12:03] <Bogaurd> it says its the latest version already
[12:03] <Bogaurd> but it's not installed!
[12:03] <AmaroqWolf> and leave the other three there. Then try your internet again.
[12:04] <AzMoo> dezinezan, what's going on?