[15:50] <myndzi> i'm trying to run a node app as a daemon; using daemonize to launch it, we encountered a config error that caused daemonize to throw a nonzero exit code, but upstart still thinks it is running
[15:50] <myndzi> how do i make it properly track the process?


[06:09] <Karthik> hi
[06:10] <Karthik> hi anybody there?
[06:10] <mapps> hi
[06:11] <Karthik> hi I have a doubt about joining ubuntu client machine to windows server
[06:11] <mapps> im here but no good
[06:11] <mapps> :D
[06:13] <MooDoo> morning
[06:14] <Karthik> good morinig
[06:14] <Karthik> sorry,good morning
[06:15] <Myrtti> graah. Morning
[06:16] <Karthik> hi I have a doubt about joining ubuntu client machine to windows server
[06:17] <mapps> cant help:(
[06:17] <Karthik> k.
[06:17] <Karthik> 'anyothers can help me?
[06:17] <mapps> ya
[06:18] <mapps> if you wait
[06:18] <mapps> MartijnVdS can prob help you
[06:18] <Karthik> ok sir
[06:20] <mapps> :D
[06:21] <diddledan> *yawn*
[06:44] <hoover> morning
[06:53] <MooDoo> morning
[07:13] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:13] <MooDoo> morning SuperMatt
[07:13] <popey> yo
[07:13] <hoover> Morning
[07:18] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: how you enjoying being a racker?
[07:21] <SuperMatt> I am indeed
[07:21] <SuperMatt> I'm enjoying a lot of things right now, and being a racker is certainly one of them
[07:22] <MartijnVdS> if you work from home, are you a homeracker?
[07:23] <SuperMatt> I don't know
[07:23] <SuperMatt> no one has mentioned anything like that
[07:23] <SuperMatt> but I see your pun, and I choose to ignore it
[07:24] <MartijnVdS> :)
[07:24] <MooDoo> lol
[07:26] <diplo> Morning all
[07:28] <MooDoo> howdy diplo
[07:34] <MooDoo> http://taylorworld.me.uk/ubuntu-uk.html - mwahahahah my next target is penguin42
[07:34]  * diplo looks
[07:34] <diplo> Hows MooDoo ?
[07:34] <diplo> How am I in position 9, I don't chat half as much as others
[07:35] <MooDoo> diplo: I'm fine thanks :) and I'm coming for you diplo...:)
[07:35]  * diplo gets typing :D
[07:36] <MooDoo> :) lol
[07:39] <diddledan> I'm close on your heals, MooDoo - two places further back
[07:39] <diddledan> we will usurp the mighty popey eventually, right?
[07:41] <MooDoo> diddledan: only if we break his fingers and ban him from the internet for life
[07:41] <diddledan> sounds like a plan
[07:42] <Myrtti> well, it looks like Benadryl acrivastine isn't meant for me
[07:42] <Myrtti> I'm not tired, which is usually what happens, but my mouth is made of parchment, feeling a bit nauseous and my typing skills have taken a dip
[07:43] <Myrtti> tomorrow: testing how loratedine fares against my allergies.
[07:43] <Myrtti> loratadine even
[07:51] <diplo> Some of the drugs I've been taking leave me with a sandpaper feeling mouth in the morning
[07:51] <diplo> A friend got pescribed some gel stuff that when you first wake up it freshens your mouth and makes you feel normal again
[07:51] <diplo> Don't drugs suck :/
[07:52] <Myrtti> well I suppose I should count my blessings
[07:52] <Myrtti> I don't feel like gauging my eyes out and I'm not encrusting the laptop screen with sneezes I fail to catch with a hankie
[07:53] <diplo> :)
[07:53] <MooDoo> I'm ok this morning, I just had a swag of piriton lol
[07:54] <diddledan> related, almost, I built the website for opticrom which is a hayfever eye-drop - opticrom.co.uk
[07:55] <diddledan> reminds me, I need to do some tweaking
[07:55] <MooDoo> diddledan: I read that as twerking, was getting worried then :D
[07:56] <diddledan> MooDoo: I can try that too
[07:56] <diplo> Drupal man ?
[07:57] <diddledan> diplo: not really. I scrape by. problem is my boss thinks I know what I'm doing
[07:57] <Myrtti> MooDoo: I wanted to try other medicines than piriton, cetirizine (especially as the racemic mixture instead of just levocetirizine) knocks me out cold
[07:58] <diddledan> these names aren't real words
[07:58] <shauno> it kinda looks like a sentence if you step back and squint though
[07:58] <Myrtti> Very high pollen count in Peterborough. No wonder I feel so awful
[08:00] <Myrtti> Piriton and Piriteze make me feel uneasy. Piri is a colloquial for amphetamine in Finnish.
[08:03] <diplo> diddledan, Same as me, scrape by :)
[08:16] <foobarry> spidey sense is tingling today
[08:16] <foobarry> gonna be a bad hayfever day
[08:16] <foobarry> Myrtti: piri piri sauce?
[08:18] <MooDoo> no chilli hot sauce
[08:18] <popey> wifey wants take away tonight
[08:19] <popey> i want something spicy.. hmmm
[08:19] <MooDoo> I had kebab last night, I love the idea at the time, then suffer in the morning.
[08:19] <diddledan> popey: curry house takeway
[08:19] <diddledan> +a
[08:19] <MooDoo> curry house takeawaus are never spicey enough lol
[08:19] <diddledan> lol
[08:20] <Myrtti> I'm happier with Tesco korma and chicken tikka masala than I am with any I get from a curry house
[08:20] <foobarry> 8 days left on my warranty. how am i gonna persuade dell that my power supply is failing when its sporadic
[08:21] <diddledan> foobarry: short it out and say "it got worse"
[08:21] <foobarry> happened a few times this week
[08:22] <Myrtti> being sporadic is a fault
[08:22] <foobarry> dmesg won't report it , nor will their diags
[08:22] <popey> MooDoo: depends what you order
[08:23] <popey> my local does a mean garlic chilli chicken
[08:28] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: just send it in for warranty, with the not" Sporadically fails"
[08:28] <MartijnVdS> note*
[08:32] <foobarry> gonna try boot the dell diag iso
[08:33] <foobarry> have a nice sheet of the new ubuntu stickers
[08:33] <dwatkins> morning folks
[08:33] <foobarry> they include one to go on your "super" key
[08:33] <ali1234> diagnostic software will never find PSU errors
[08:33] <foobarry> ali1234: i know, but they will ask me to do it
[08:34] <foobarry> we had a power cut couple of weeks ago, seems to be ever since then
[08:36] <popey> i have three PSUs for my thinkpad now
[08:36] <popey> one on my desk in the office, one under the sofa and one in the laptop bag
[08:37] <diddledan> popey: I have the same setup
[08:37] <diddledan> only with two different laptops that aren't thinkpads
[08:38] <diddledan> 1 cable on my desk for everyday, one in the lappybag and the other I keep in the office for those rare occasions I go-in
[09:19] <xnox> Wait, turbines are not huge fans?! *fascinating* this changes everything.
[09:22] <MooDoo> xnox: no your wrong, love, love changes everything, hands and faces, earth and sky...;)
[09:23] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:23] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[09:24] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:26] <diddledan> MooDoo:  :-p
[09:27] <diddledan> MooDoo: I need to put that onto spotify now
[09:27] <diddledan> MooDoo: damn j00
[09:30] <MooDoo> diddledan: sowweeeee
[09:44] <foobarry> seem to have forgotten my gpg key password
[09:45] <diddledan> foobarry: oh dear :-(
[09:46] <Laney> good job you made a revcert when you created it ^o)
[09:46] <foobarry> :(
[09:49] <foobarry> strange that i did not write it down
[09:51] <foobarry> how do i generate revoke certs?
[09:51] <diddledan> foobarry: with the password :-p
[09:52] <foobarry> gpg --output revoke.asc --gen-revoke mykey
[09:53]  * diddledan does it the pointy clicky way
[10:00] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:04] <MooDoo> hello bigcalm
[10:16] <foobarry> "Since issue is intermittent and no error message after running the diagnostic test, issue may be software related, foobarry "
[10:17] <foobarry> "if it was software issue i would not have to unplug and replug power cord the other day"
[10:17] <foobarry> "Thanks for adding that up, i would be glad to request a PSU"
[10:31] <Myrtti> I want to prod and poke someone about OEM laptops getting the LTS
[10:31] <Myrtti> but I don't know who I'd poke
[10:31] <Myrtti> I'm annoyed
[10:31] <Myrtti> want LTS
[10:51] <MooDoo> Myrtti: poke the first person you see in the street, they will probably have just as much luck at getting this :D
[10:52] <Myrtti> :-<
[10:52] <Myrtti> you is mean
[10:53]  * MooDoo hugs Myrtti  :)
[11:05] <Myrtti> to my great disappointment (but also with results I totally expected) it turns out my latest dyeing project didn't take the colour I wanted and hoped. Oh well. Instead of a green summer hat I shall have a brown summer hat.
[11:09] <diddledan> those two colours aren't even close
[11:09] <ali1234> yeah they are
[11:11] <Myrtti> diddledan: chemistry is weird.
[11:12] <MooDoo> h2oh yes it is indeed :)
[11:12] <Myrtti> It is somehow logical in some weird way that if you're using alum to prep animal fibres for dyeing, if using red onion skins as the dye, the end result is olive green
[11:12] <Myrtti> ramie is a vegetable fibre, so the results weren't what I hoped but also knew that would be unlikely
[11:12] <diddledan> and red food colouring is yellow
[11:20] <diplo> Got some issues with shared hosting where the load gets high and dns stops resolving correctly
[11:21] <diplo> Can anyone explain how this works, so we have a reseller account with cpanel and this same server does websites/dns etc etc
[11:21] <diplo> If the load goes through the roof we have issues with resolving records sometimes
[11:22] <diplo> I'm guessing that when the customers dns servers are trying to connect to domain.com @ IP it requests it from the Shared host it can't complete the transaction ?
[11:29] <diddledan> dig is helpful for working out dns bottlenecks
[11:29] <diddledan> use +trace and it'll query the entire dns server chain
[11:30] <diplo> Trying that now
[11:30] <diplo> ta
[11:31] <diplo> Connection timed out, no servers could be reached.. Will look into the command a bit more
[11:31] <diddledan> should be just `dig example.com +trace`
[11:32] <diplo> yep, tried on a few sites just says timed out
[11:33] <diplo> Seems an Ubuntu issue
[11:33] <diplo> Works fine from my VPS
[11:33] <diddledan> sounds like your resolv.conf is screwey
[11:33] <MooDoo> can you ping the IP?  silly question
[11:33] <diddledan> hmm, ubuntu does that whole nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> thing
[11:34] <diddledan> I forget where network manager puts it's own resolv.conf file or even if it obscures it entirely inside the evil that is dbus
[11:34] <diplo> Yeah, happens on all different domains
[11:34] <diplo> not just my issue one
[11:35] <diplo> When the load goes high again I'll try again
[11:35] <diplo> Returning fast atm
[12:53] <diddledan> http://mashable.com/2014/06/05/wimpy-goat/

[12:53] <MartijnVdS> haha :)
[13:04] <mapps> yo
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> time for.. tea, music and configuring some switches
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> <-- impressed by MikroTik/Routerboard gear
[13:08]  * MooDoo just got a netgear wifi extender
[13:10] <mapps> :D
[13:10] <mapps> nice
[13:11] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: http://routerboard.com/
[13:11] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: also, I found a place that sells them *cheap* (in Germany)
[13:11] <MooDoo> cool
[13:12] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: I got mine from linitx.com
[13:12] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: mikrotik-shop.de
[13:14] <MartijnVdS> they're cheaper on some things, more expensive on others, I think prices are about the same :)
[13:14] <mapps> argh
[13:14] <mapps> such  a hassle
[13:14] <mapps> going to the phene in a minute get a few beers
[14:21] <Gargoyle> Does anyone have any recommendations for a basic MTA for servers. Just so that notification emails (Eg. cron messages, etc) can be sent out to a real email address? Would you still go with a full install of postfix?
[14:22] <bigcalm> exim
[14:45] <mapps> i have an amex and lloyds sent me a mastercard too for when places dont accept amex
[14:45] <mapps> lol
[14:45] <mapps> why not just issue a mastercard?
[14:45] <diplo> I had that as well
[14:45] <foobarry> amex sucks
[14:46] <diplo> Probably because Amex pay them well to issue their cards
[14:46] <mapps> just seems strange to me
[14:46] <mapps> so i have 2 cards for the same account
[14:46] <diplo> Can get brilliant deals with Amex sometimes, just very limited in the UK
[14:46] <mapps> yep
[14:46] <mapps> i show my amex and theyre like what the hell
[14:47] <mapps> im becoming a card hoarder:)
[14:48] <mapps> lloyds amex/hsbc mastercard/barclays visa/barclays mc/mbna visa/mbna plat visa/m&s bank/capital one / morgan stanley
[14:48] <diddledan> postfix is my choice
[14:49]  * diddledan reading scrollback
[14:49] <mapps> i cant remember the pins
[14:49] <mapps> but nevermind
[14:49] <mapps> :P
[15:12] <dwatkins> mapps: wow, I only have two banks
[15:12] <dwatkins> well, one of them is a building society
[15:57] <funkyHat> mapps: amex charge retailers more to accept your payments, so lloyds make more money
[15:57] <funkyHat> Barclaycard have just done the same thing to me. Amex and a Visa for when people say nuhuh
[15:58] <funkyHat> And I get less cashback when I use the Visa ⢁(
[15:59] <funkyHat> Oh look that conversation was over an hour ago
[16:24] <diddledan> funkyHat: you're into conversational necrophillia?
[16:25] <diddledan> dead convo is dead
[16:28] <mapps> but funkyHat
[16:28] <mapps> why not just give visa/mc
[16:28] <mapps> 2 cards for 1 seems silly
[16:28] <mapps> but yea i get cashback on my mastercard:D got an m&s mastercard had like £30 m&s vouchers already
[16:29] <shauno> that's his point.  amex costs the vendor more
[16:29] <mapps> yea
[16:30] <mapps> but
[16:30] <mapps> why not ust use mc then
[16:31] <directhex> more cashback or other perks on amex
[16:31] <directhex> e.g. with lloyds, they give 5x the avios if you use the amex not the mastercard
[16:32] <SkippySquirrel> hi im trying to get ubuntu on my raspberry pi, can anyone tell me if its possable?
[16:32] <bigcalm> SkippySquirrel: talk to AlanBell :)
[16:32] <SkippySquirrel> that is if he/she is around
[16:34] <bigcalm> It's Friday afternoon, he might be in the pub
[16:35] <bigcalm> There isn't currently a build of Ubuntu for the ARM chip that the RPi uses. AlanBell is in the process of creating a RPi server farm to compile each package for Ubuntu on said chip
[16:36] <bigcalm> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu (funded)
[16:40] <diddledan> Alan's been facing real life issues last I heard which put a delay onto the clusterbuild
[16:40] <directhex> real life sucks
[16:40] <diddledan> indeed
[16:40] <bigcalm> Down with real life!
[16:40] <diddledan> we'd be much better off if we didn't have meat things
[16:41] <diddledan> up with second-life?
[16:41] <diddledan> is that even still running?
[16:41] <bigcalm> A game I never played due to being stuck on dial up when it was in use
[17:18] <ali1234> second life is basically a cross between minecraft, blender, and irc, with furries
[17:33] <diddledan> http://revk.www.me.uk/2014/05/virgin-lies.html
[18:14] <ali1234> does "find -type d -links 3" find all directories that contain exactly one file or directory? (along with . and ..)
[18:19] <ali1234> no, the link count only counts directories, so that finds directories with exactly one subdirectory
[18:19] <ali1234> (immediate)
[20:15] <Armag3dd0n24> so who's watching big brother?


[18:39] <system76chick> Hey guys, can someone help me out on the wiki? I can't seem to get the photos from the party last night to post. It just shows a little broken page icon and I can't figure out what the problem is...
[23:57] <hackfu> Hello


 yeah well 16.04 is past End of LIfe so that upgrade path is mostly dead.  Is this for an RPi or some kind of device that doesn't have USB boot? (re @FastBlinker: i think it's ver 10 something and i'm trying to update to 16.04 but i get an error about a dependency @teward001)
 because a lot of devices don't actually have SD-card boot compatibility
 (RPi, embedded devices, some servers, etc.)
 it boots just fine from the sd card but during the install it starts looking for a cd so i'm trying to upgrade directly with terminal and I get that error. it's a asus eepc top (re @teward001: yeah well 16.04 is past End of LIfe so that upgrade path is mostly dead.  Is this for an RPi or some kind of device that doesn't have USB boot?)
 i think i just need to install that dependency before trying to upgrad, i just have no idea how
[07:17] <arraybolt3[m]> @FastBlinker: You're going to possibly have a hard time upgrading to a supported release of Lubuntu even if you can get the repos to work, since all supported versions of Lubuntu use the LXQt desktop, while the version you're using uses the LXDE desktop. Desktop environment changes can make upgrades difficult even when everything else should otherwise be working right, and in your situation, everything's not going right. I would highly
[07:18] <arraybolt3[m]> recommend copying all your data onto an external drive and installing a supported version of Lubuntu (preferably 22.04) from scratch.
 tried that but the installer  keeps looking for a cd which I don't have even though i booted from the sd. guess i need to find a usb cd drive. the problem with upgrading to the latest distro is that the minimum specs stated are much higher than the Intel Atom N270 (1.6 GHz, 533 MHz FSB, 512 KB L2 Cache) that my computer has. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3[m]> @FastBlinker: You're going to possibly have a hard time upgrading to a su
[07:22] <arraybolt3[m]> @FastBlinker: It's looking for a CD? Something's gone awry. You may need to flash the 22.04 ISO file directly to the SD card rather than using a bootable drive maker.
[07:23] <arraybolt3[m]> (As far as system specs, Lubuntu's requirements are much lower than Ubuntu's requirements. If you have 2 GB RAM, it will be cramped, but should still work. If you have 4 GB, it should work well.)
[07:23] <arraybolt3[m]> Your system is 64-bit, right?
 have no clue I have a asus Eee Top ET1602
 1gb ram
[07:26] <arraybolt3[m]> Ouch. That's a 32-bit processor, and too little RAM. If you like Ubuntu-like systems, your best bet is probably going to be to use Debian 32-bit with the LXDE desktop. Let me find you a link.
 how can i do that without using a bootable drive maker i'm using balena etcher right now on a mac (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3[m]> @FastBlinker: It's looking for a CD? Something's gone awry. You may need to flash the 22.04 ISO file directly to the SD card rather than using a bootable drive maker.)
 thanks (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3[m]> Ouch. That's a 32-bit processor, and too little RAM. If you like Ubuntu-like systems, your best bet is probably going to be to use Debian 32-bit with the LXDE desktop. Let me find you a link.)
[07:27] <arraybolt3[m]> Balena Etcher should work just fine. I thought you were using something like UNetbootin or something.
 i have lubuntu installed now but an old version firefox doesn't work well and can't upgrade because not supported
 so i was trying to upgrade for that reason
[07:28] <arraybolt3[m]> @FastBlinker: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-11.4.0-i386-netinst.iso Make sure to select LXDE as your desktop during install. You'll need an active Internet connection during installation, since this ISO downloads all the parts of the OS as it installs.
 thanks (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3[m]> @FastBlinker: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-11.4.0-i386-netinst.iso Make sure to select LXDE as your desktop during install. You'll need an active Internet connection during installation, since this ISO downloads all the parts of the OS as it installs.)
[07:29] <arraybolt3[m]> Sadly, Ubuntu stopped supporting 32-bit CPUs, but thankfully, Debian still supports them. The LXDE desktop should make 1 GB RAM livable.
[07:29] <arraybolt3[m]> And Ubuntu is based on Debian, so you should have a similar experience using Debian as you've had using Ubuntu.
 thanks i'll give it a try
[07:33] <arraybolt3[m]> @FastBlinker: One last thing - Firefox is an awfully heavy web browser, so you may also want to give Falkon a try if it's in the Debian repositories. It's more lightweight.
[07:33] <arraybolt3[m]> That should hopefully help with the 1 GB RAM.
 prefer firefox because it syncs with all my other instances
 i'll see how it runs
[07:34] <arraybolt3[m]> Sounds like a good plan.


[01:56] <pepee> can someone tell me why the oom killer is disabled in ubuntu?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:05] <EvilRoey> o/ BluesKaj
[12:36] <ylel9> hello
[12:43] <BluesKaj> hi EvilRoey..afk for a bit
[12:43] <EvilRoey> aye
[12:46] <ylel9> EvilRoey: hi
[12:46] <EvilRoey> ylel9: oh hello
[12:47] <ylel9> EvilRoey: how are you
[12:47] <EvilRoey> pretty well, actually; how about you?
[12:48] <ylel9> very good
[12:48] <ylel9> i can i ask you
[12:48] <ylel9> for onething
[12:48] <ylel9> for my computer
[12:49] <ylel9> EvilRoey: how can  i used robot translator
[12:50] <EvilRoey> what's the question, I odn't understand?
[12:50] <EvilRoey> here are things like babylon
[12:50] <EvilRoey> that translate any word on the screen for you
[12:50] <EvilRoey> https://translation.babylon-software.com/
[12:50] <EvilRoey> it's not free software though
[12:51] <ylel9> EvilRoey: thank you very much
[12:52] <EvilRoey> ylel9: aye
[17:43] <riidom> Hello, I have a weird artefact overlaying my screen and all applications. Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/Z67LSp5 (bottom is duplication with highlighted problem area, the grid is just my changed start menu icon) - Would like to get rid of it.
[17:58] <Alexfrench> even if you change the theme maybe ?
[18:00] <riidom>  this is broken atm for some reason, let me reboot
[18:06] <riidom> Alexfrench: I tried rebooting before, but for some reason it helped this time.. thanks for triggering it :)
[18:07] <Alexfrench> cool


 pleanbean, you have two windows boot partitions. You could manually edit grub.cfg and remove one of them. you could initialize the partition you want to eliminate.
[02:49] <bazhang> I thought there was a HUGE warning about not doing that
[02:50] <Unit193> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE   at the top big enough?
[02:51] <bazhang> hehe yeah
 pk gn
[02:52] <bazhang> he just lost me
[02:53] <Unit193> "OK, good night"
[02:53] <bazhang> pk is the new OK?
[02:53] <bazhang> I thought it was kk
[02:53] <Unit193> Typo.
[02:54] <Unit193> (I'm guessing here, I have no idea what's going on...)
[02:54] <bazhang> holstein has the patience of a saint
[02:55] <Unit193> Indeed.
[04:49] <harrisr> (harrisr) Does flashing Ubuntu touch void square trade warranty
[05:04] <phunyguy> ^ ??
[05:05] <IdleOne> we have some special friends who sometimes join here by mistake
[05:10] <phunyguy> I see.
[05:11] <phunyguy> how is that even possible?
[05:12] <phunyguy> *shrug*
[05:13] <IdleOne> harrisr has been here before, he is impatient, a cross poster, a generally doesn't listen to answers.
[05:15] <phunyguy> sounds like a stand-up guy.
[05:15] <phunyguy> goodnight everyone
[05:15] <IdleOne> night
[05:18] <harrisr> Why is #ubuntu-touch a dead channel
[05:22] <IdleOne> it isn't
[05:22] <IdleOne> you just need to learn to be patient
[05:22] <harrisr> I have been waiting for like 15 minutes
[05:23] <harrisr> For a question as simple as does it void the warrenty
[05:23] <IdleOne> yes well it is the middle of the night in eastern america and europe
[05:23] <IdleOne> might want to wait a few hours
[05:24] <harrisr> Do you know the answer
[05:24] <IdleOne> if it is so simple how come you don't know the answer
[05:24] <IdleOne> why don't you try reading the warranty
[05:25] <IdleOne> guess he didn't like me answer
[06:52] <rww> phunyguy: "how is that even possible" => banforwards are one way
[09:08] <ikonia> !guidelines
[09:08] <ikonia> !coc
[09:16] <Merrrrs> Hey I need some help
[09:16] <Merrrrs> I was recently banned from #ubuntu
[09:17] <Merrrrs> By a mod/admin abusing his power. Who do I speak with about that?
[09:17] <Myrtti> well you started wrong right there
[09:18] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Sorry, I didn't see a template
[09:18] <Merrrrs> What do I do about a ban?
[09:18] <Myrtti> if you think that there's a problem with a mod/operator, it's actually better if you don't antagonise the people right from outset
[09:18] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Not antagonising.
[09:18] <Myrtti> would have been better off starting to explain what happened
[09:18] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I have the IRC log.
[09:18] <Merrrrs> One sec
[09:18] <Merrrrs> http://p.srsfckn.biz/show/132/
[09:18] <Myrtti> then why didn't you provide the log rather than straight off claiming abuse
[09:19] <Merrrrs> He banned me because I told him too fuck off. I know thats wrong.
[09:19] <Merrrrs> Before I got a chance to apologize, he b& me
[09:20] <ikonia> please paste the rest of the converation
[09:20] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I'm not some troll going around getting mods angry. I just needed to make sure I didn't mess anything up
[09:20] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Dont have the channel log
[09:20] <Merrrrs> ikonia, You instantly kicked me
[09:20] <ikonia> no the bits after that
[09:20] <ikonia> that's in pm
[09:20] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Hold on
[09:20] <ikonia> so the rest of the pm conversation
[09:21] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Alright dude
[09:21] <Merrrrs> http://p.srsfckn.biz/show/133/
[09:21] <Merrrrs> 2/2
[09:21] <LjL-Landan> no
[09:21] <Merrrrs> LjL-Landan, ?
[09:23] <Myrtti> so you used the word 'shit' and were told off for doing that, and then promptly ...
[09:23] <Myrtti> ok
[09:23] <Merrrrs> Was d/c'd
[09:24] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:25] <Merrrrs> What do I do about my ban?  And I apologized for that. I didn't like how he kept avoiding my requests
[09:27] <Merrrrs> I even told him he didnt have to help me anymore
[09:27] <Merrrrs> Just needed a quick example of the one line of syntax on pastebin maybe?
[09:27] <Merrrrs> he denied. Referred me to the man pages
[09:27] <Merrrrs> Which I already read
[09:27] <Merrrrs> but did not understand
[09:28] <Merrrrs> Hence my visit to #ubuntu
[09:28] <Myrtti> just like I would have done, though I do find doing a google search much more fruitful as you can find bazillion examples there
[09:28] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I have been trying to do this for days.  With certain things.
[09:29] <Merrrrs> I can handle a challenge
[09:29] <Merrrrs> I dont need to be spoonfed
[09:29] <Merrrrs> But I had already tried
[09:29] <Merrrrs> And he ignored that fact
[09:29] <Merrrrs> I appreciate the free help, but listen to what the person asking for help has to say
[09:29] <Merrrrs> maybe?
[09:29] <k1l> Merrrrs: maybe the way of communication in the irc doesnt suit you that well. you can get voluntare support on askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums , too
[09:30] <Merrrrs> k1l, Maybe.
[09:30] <Merrrrs> But I dont like forums
[09:30] <Merrrrs> too slow
[09:30] <Myrtti> or maybe you really need to consider what kind of language you use in a public setting
[09:30] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I apologized. Can we move past that?
[09:30] <Myrtti> the language *was* uncalled for
[09:30] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I know dude
[09:30] <Merrrrs> I apologize
[09:30] <Merrrrs> I apologize
[09:30] <Merrrrs> I apologize
[09:30] <Myrtti> I'm just reiterating
[09:30] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I know.
[09:30] <Myrtti> and so
[09:31] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, I'm sure you deal with people like me a lot
[09:31] <Merrrrs> yeah?
[09:31] <k1l> Merrrrs: honestly, you are not making it any better actuall in here. you are still staying you like some challenge and dont need to be spoonfd but still demand the command to be given to you.
[09:31] <Merrrrs> k1l, I dont need the command to be given to me. Im need help making sure I dont ruin something, as I have an encrypted /home dir
[09:32] <Merrrrs> Im not asking you to do it for me
[09:32] <Merrrrs> Maybe an example? I have read the man page. I have researched
[09:32] <k1l> so this contradictory behaviour doesn look like that incidents will not happen again :/
[09:32] <Merrrrs> k1l, Sorry. I didn't understand that
[09:33] <Merrrrs> Rephrase?
[09:33] <k1l> so i suggest again to use other official ubuntu support ways. maybe its just that you expect too much out of the real time conversation
[09:33] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Im just here making sure you guys realize that not everyone has the TIME, to be walked through. Thats why when I joined I said I had a fast question
[09:33] <ikonia> just to clarify - you where not refused the command, you where asked to give the commmand you wanted/thought you should use so we could correct it
[09:34] <Merrrrs> ikonia attmpted to take me on a drawn out, very verbose "troubleshooting" session. As you could call that
[09:34] <Merrrrs> I dont have time for that
[09:34] <ikonia> then you don't use the command
[09:34] <ikonia> dd will destroy your system
[09:34] <Merrrrs> ikonia, what?
[09:34] <Merrrrs> ikonia, If used incorrectly, yes
[09:34] <ikonia> exactly
[09:35] <ikonia> hence why certain information is needed not "troubleshooting" - factual information
[09:35] <Merrrrs> Why did you ask me what I would do if my SSD failed? Was that relevant?
[09:35] <ikonia> yes, to make sure you where using the right tool for the job
[09:35] <ikonia> no point having a backup if you can't use it
[09:35] <Merrrrs> ikonia, Thats not your problem though man
[09:35] <Merrrrs> I needed help with ONE THING
[09:35] <Merrrrs> Not decision making
[09:35] <ikonia> I'm done
[09:35] <Merrrrs> ikonia, I know you want to help me
[09:36] <Merrrrs> But future issues, are not your issue
[09:36] <Merrrrs> I understand why I cant restore with different hardware
[09:36] <Merrrrs> I dont care about that right now though
[09:36] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, Am I being unreasonable?
[09:38] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:38] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:38] <Myrtti> sorry, I'm actually a bit busy outside this channel
[09:38] <Merrrrs> Myrtti, What do I do about my ban?
[09:39] <Merrrrs> ikonia was just not even listening to what I had to say
[09:39] <Merrrrs> Does that matter to you?
[09:39] <ikonia> I listened exceptionnally carefully
[09:39] <ikonia> I asked you for the command you whre trying to use - to help you /correct it
[09:39] <Myrtti> you wait until someone is listening - I can't spare any time for this right *now*
[09:40] <Merrrrs> Well can I go back to #ubuntu
[09:40] <Merrrrs> To ask someone else for help?
[09:42] <Merrrrs> ?
[09:42] <Merrrrs> ?
[15:57] <ikonia> hello cub
[15:58] <cub> Hi we've had some problems with spamming users from xtec.cat during the day in #ubuntustudio and unfortunately the IRC ops in the channel have not been available. I was suggested to come in here to see if anyone could help out?
[15:58] <ikonia> cub: ok, lets see what we can do
[15:58] <cub> thanks ikonia
[15:59] <ikonia> ok, so the first thing you should be aware of is that freenode staff are on the access list, so you can request help from freenode staff if there are no ops about
[16:00] <cub> ok
[16:01] <ikonia> second thing is jussi (in this channel) is on the access list under his old jussi01 nick, so getting the access list up to him
[16:02] <cub> so stupid question, what's the access list?
[16:02] <ikonia> people who are ops in the channel
[16:02] <cub> aha
[16:03] <Myrtti> /msg chanserv access #ubuntustudio list
[16:05] <cub> great thanks
[16:06] <cub> I'll go on from there. Cheers
[17:10] <phunyguy> Sounds like they could use some help during this timeframe in that channel.
[17:43] <SN3> can some one unban me from ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:47] <IdleOne> SN3: Do you remember why you got banned?
[17:56] <SN3> no idea
[18:05] <bazhang> SN3, the sysinfo you used
[18:06] <bazhang> #test is a good place for that
[18:13] <SN3> bazhang: okay
[18:20] <bazhang> SN3, I'm not an -offtopic operator, perhaps if you waited a moment we can about your ban there
[18:20] <bazhang> +see
[18:21] <phunyguy> shall I?
[18:21] <bazhang> SN3, wont have that issue any further, will you
[18:27] <bazhang> SN3, are you there? could you please respond?
[20:17] <Myrtti> just in case someone is living under a rock, google is having some issues, so if someone is complaning that googly stuff doesn't work...
[20:18] <genii> Ah, good to know.
[20:18] <rww> tell them to use duckduckgo :3
[20:19] <hggdh> prolly cause the market is getting clobbered today (so far, -270)
[20:19] <jbroome> and gmail performance is tied to the DOW?
[20:19] <hggdh> they get nervous, and such
[20:19] <Myrtti> rww: brb, going to rustle the Skype network, see how you're doing then...
[20:20] <Myrtti> *snif*
[20:20] <rww> Myrtti: we don't use Skype, we use jitsi :P
[20:20] <Myrtti> well you get the point anyway
[20:20] <rww> yay decentralization!
[20:20] <rww> shame that's Hard for search engines :(
[20:20] <rww> anyways. ty for heads up
[20:21] <Myrtti> apparently things should be on the mend now, so maybe there aren't any complaints anymore