[04:27] <valorie> apachelogger: bcooksley says "
[04:27] <valorie> [17:31] <bcooksley-away> valorie: they are mirrored
[04:27] <valorie> [17:31] <bcooksley-away> files.kde.org is a redirector
[04:28] <valorie> [17:32] <bcooksley-away> so that means the mirror they're using is slow
[04:28] <valorie> [17:32] *** bcooksley-away is now known as bcooksley.
[04:28] <valorie> [17:39] <PovAddictW> valorie: click the 'details' link
[06:01] <valorie> apachelogger: http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2014/06/metalinks-excellent-fast-way-to.html
[08:59] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:33] <apachelogger> valorie: well, focing a metalink aint working for neon since the image url is changing once a week, that is a bit of a drag really, OTOH one could point to the latest image I reckon
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[17:20] <mparillo> After installing Neon / KF5 / (http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE#Installing_Project_Neon_5), I have  separate sessions for Plasma Next (4.100) and for Plasma 4.13.1, but it seems as if Konsole shares the command history across the two sessions while rekonq does not. This inconsistancy is not a bug, righ? That is, once rekonq is ported to KF5, it will behave like konsole, which
[17:20] <mparillo> has?
[17:25] <Riddell> it's not konsole which stores the command history, it's bash
[17:25] <Riddell> shared with any bash instance
[17:34] <mparillo> TY Riddell.
[19:27] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: ping
[19:28] <Quintasan> ari-tczew: pong
[19:29] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: as you're an uploader of telepathy-qt, can you help with one FTBFS? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-qt/0.9.4+dfsg-1ubuntu1/+build/6120616/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.telepathy-qt_0.9.4%2Bdfsg-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:30] <Quintasan> >dh_doxygen: Doxygen documentation not found
[19:30] <Quintasan> I'd just override it not to build docs or ask upstream what the hell is up
[19:30] <Quintasan> Unfortunately I have exams starting tomorrow and I don't really have the time to do this
[19:31] <Quintasan> ari-tczew: The docs must have disappeared or must have been moved and our rules do not reflect the change
[19:32] <ari-tczew> Quintasan: OK thanks and good luck on exams
[19:33] <Quintasan> ari-tczew: Thanks.


[04:30] <pleia2> nhandler: sorry it's so late - step 29 is the precursor to 36, I assume? (forum output script, and then forum post)
[04:31] <pleia2> and I assume reformat.py works as expected and there are no secrets? :)
[04:33] <pleia2> nhandler: what wiki stuff needs to be stripped for the email version? just camel case correction?
[04:34] <pleia2> I think that's all my questions, the release may not be perfect but we'll get it out the door
[10:45] <nhandler> pleia2: Yeah, but make sure you get the images right for the forum post. I normally copy/paste from the last forum release (image at the top and the last paragraph)
[10:45] <nhandler> reformat.py is straight forward. Just follow the readme
[10:46] <nhandler> CammelCase comes out for the email. A paragraph linking to the wiki page gets added. I also can't remember if we made any changes to the last paragraph (check last week's issue)
[10:46] <nhandler> For the fridge, don't follow any of the wiki guides for publishing, just copy last week's post and edit the template to match this week's issue
[10:47] <nhandler> If you send me an sms, I can help with the forum if needed (you should have access for everything else)
[15:07] <NRWlion> hi jono!
[15:51] <NRWlion> hi shadeslayer and JasonO
[15:52] <shadeslayer> hi NRWlion
[16:10] <JasonO> Hi NRWlion
[16:11] <pleia2> nhandler: thanks! I should be good to go then (I confirmed I have forum access a few weeks back, so I should be good with that too)
[16:12] <NRWlion> pleia2: hi
[16:12] <NRWlion> ;)(
[16:12] <pleia2> hi there NRWlion
[16:13] <NRWlion> pleia2: how is your day going?
[16:16] <pleia2> NRWlion: hard to say, it just started :)
[16:25] <NRWlion> pleia2: then have a nice one ;) mine is already over (and i am happy with that)
[16:25] <NRWlion> :D
[16:25] <pleia2> NRWlion: not a great day for you?
[16:38] <NRWlion> well how would you feel getting a letter from the human resources manager at your company telling you are no longer needed?
[16:40] <pleia2> NRWlion: ouch, sorry to hear that :(
[16:42] <NRWlion> and the best is they are telling me i am doing a great job there
[16:42] <NRWlion> but new owners == new money == new clerks
[16:44] <NRWlion> hey pleia2 i have got an idea for UWN if you have time i'd like to discuss that with you and nhandler if available
[16:44] <pleia2> nhandler is out of town through tuesday
[16:44] <pleia2> but you're welcome to share ideas any time
[16:45] <NRWlion> pleia2: great ;) i just need to ask google for some translations ;)
[16:45] <pleia2> I'm at work right now, so forgive me if my replies aren't always instant :)
[16:46] <NRWlion> when will you be off-duty?
[16:46] <NRWlion> cause i dont want to keep u from working
[16:46] <NRWlion> :D
[16:46] <pleia2> in 7 hours (just started!)
[16:47] <NRWlion> ok, then i might be drunk and not able to type properly :D
[16:47] <NRWlion> so here is the short version
[16:48] <NRWlion> i am thinking of a trial section called "Letters to the Editors"
[16:49] <pleia2> feedback from readers?
[16:49] <NRWlion> meaning: every news team has a special sections where readers can discuss their opinion on special topics that were in the previous issue of the paper / newsletter
[16:51] <NRWlion> i am thinking of something like: we pick one or two topics of every issue and encourage the readers to post / mail that to us. And we simply collect the statements and put them together
[16:52] <pleia2> we don't really have a place to post them, but we could ask for feedback
[16:52] <NRWlion> publish them and by this we might be able to get some more interest
[16:52] <pleia2> we'd have to coordinate with whomever wrote about the topic (blog, news site, etc) so the feedback gets back to them
[16:53] <NRWlion> ehm. to get myself clear. i am looking for a kind of discussion sections
[16:53] <NRWlion> for topics of our issue that was may have effected the readers and
[16:54] <pleia2> do you have an example of a such a topic?
[16:55] <NRWlion> ehm. f.ex. we there is a topic in blogs about the failures of whatever - mint vs. debian.
[16:56] <NRWlion> the readers get the summary of the posts from us and are able - at least they should be ;) - to make up their own mind and post it
[16:56] <pleia2> hm, I guess I just suggested coordination because I think such feedback is better left on the blog itself rather than moving it to our own space
[16:57] <NRWlion> wait ^^ not finished yet! we collect those posts and bring them on one of our next issues to get a discussion going, u know?
[16:57] <NRWlion> that way that readers are able to have a possibility to write their thaughts to given topics
[16:58] <pleia2> yeah, but that splits the conversation, now there's a conversation in our newsletter and on the blog, and the blog author doesn't see the comments/discussion unless they read our newsletter :\
[17:00] <NRWlion> and this is the second intention i want to get to
[17:00] <NRWlion> i want to manage contacts to the bloggers and authors to maybe get them contributing ;)
[17:09] <NRWlion> 1) we get the readers contributing and 2) we get contact to the bloggers and authors we are quoting from ;)
[17:09] <NRWlion> wouldnt that be good?
[17:10] <pleia2> I think we'll have to see what others think, my vision for the newsletter is showing people articles and getting discussions and news going on their sites, this feels like we're taking discussion away from them
[17:11] <NRWlion> as i said: just an idea
[17:13] <pleia2> yes, keep having them! :)
[17:13] <pleia2> and my word isn't the law, it'd be nice to see what others think
[17:19] <NRWlion> pleia2: n2 hear
[17:20] <NRWlion> but i have the light feeling to slow you more down then help you with my input
[17:20] <NRWlion> :(
[17:21] <pleia2> NRWlion: well, a suggestion like the one above would require more volunteers than we have now, but that's not so bad as long as we can find them :)
[17:22] <NRWlion> pleia2: i would not suggest sth like this if i would not be able to help
[22:26] <cjohnston> pleia2: who did the theme for fridge
[22:27] <pleia2> nick ali maybe? akgraner would know
[22:28] <cjohnston> I'm just wondering cause I don't believe it follows the guidelines, plus since it is in the ubuntu.com namespace (kinda, still) I believe it needs the masthead
[22:28] <cjohnston> Since its WP tho, it should be able to use the WP theme that the community has created
[23:11] <pleia2> yeah, I don't know anything about the theming stuff, I just write articles :)


 Hey @Valoriez would you be willing to jump an a call with us in BigBlueButton to provide us with a show report ? That would be so cool to have. If so what time UTC could you do it ?
 From LFNW that is
[08:38] <valorie> oh gosh
[08:38] <valorie> it's after midnight here now
[08:38] <valorie> can I tell you tomorrow?
[08:39] <valorie> I can say yes that would be fun!
 Oh so sorry I pinged you, night night xxx
[08:39] <valorie> lol
[08:39] <valorie> no problem
 https://kubuntu.org/event/kubuntu-20-04-release-party/
 @Sick_Rimmit can't change the date now!
 No, that's a commitment
[21:26] <valorie> @Sck_Rimmit please add UTC after the time on the announcement
 10:4 will do that 😃
[21:27] <valorie> :-)
 Hmmm the event Calendar on our website, offers UTC but the only selectable entry in the UTC category is a 'blank'
 I have added a *bold* line that all times are UTC, hopefully that's better than nothing
[21:37] <valorie> sounds like 16:00 would be best for me to hail in, but I think the hall doesn't open until 17:00
[21:38] <valorie> so maybe during the pizza party would be better
[21:39] <valorie> so 19-20:00 I'll log in, if not just listening before that
[21:44] <valorie> ok, it's on my calendar


[13:50] <txtsd> Why am I unable to provide authentication for pad.ubuntu.com?
[13:51] <rickspencer3> o/ all
[13:52] <txtsd> o/
[13:52] <rickspencer3> jono asked me to say a few words during the opening
[13:52] <Mirv> o/
[13:53] <rickspencer3> or should I say " jono_"
[13:57] <rickspencer3> jono_ is posting the links to the talk around now
[13:57] <rickspencer3> I need guitars in my background
[13:59] <zyga-uds> live
[14:00] <thomi> what time is it?
[14:00] <swaveck> we can see you
[14:00] <balloons> #ubuntu-uds-community-1
[14:01] <dpm> o/
[14:01] <Mirv> is there some usual delay in the stream?
[14:02] <mrbrownstone3g> has this started yet
[14:02] <zyga-uds> everything works smooth, happy to see another UDS commencing
[14:02] <swaveck> Rick's squeaking a litlle bit..
[14:02] <Mirv> compared to when people start in the hangout
[14:02] <Mirv> I mean, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/meeting/22202/intro-by-jono-bacon/ is empty still
[14:02]  * ogra_ doesnt get any video on the summit page
[14:02] <Volbeat> Fuck the america!
[14:02] <iBobX> thanks
[14:03] <alecu> hello!
[14:03] <nik90> hi
[14:03] <Corasaaa> And... So
[14:03] <nik90> does anybody see the video window?
[14:03] <Mirv> hi nik90 :)
[14:03] <Corasaaa> No
[14:03] <kenvandine> not me
[14:03] <Mirv> nik90: nope!
[14:03] <ogra_> nik90, nope
[14:03] <nik90> Mirv: hi
[14:03] <dobey> nope
[14:03] <ogra_> just the placeholder
[14:03] <nik90> I guess I panicked for no reason
[14:03]  * kenvandine is anxiously awaiting to watch Jono play the guitar
[14:04] <nik90> kenvandine: lol
[14:04] <sergiusens> isn't it supposed to be now?
[14:04] <dobey> yes
[14:04] <kafabih> hi
[14:04] <sergiusens> I have no video :/
[14:04] <Mirv> sergiusens: assuming technical glitches
[14:04] <ppetraki> video running?
[14:04] <Corasaaa> No
[14:04] <ppetraki> thanks
[14:04] <beisner> video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zqECljI4E4
[14:04] <sergiusens> I don't even have the video window...
[14:04] <mhall119> try refreshing the window
[14:04] <sergiusens> youtube link ftw
[14:05] <nik90> sergiusens: yup I didnt have the video window even
[14:05] <ppetraki> yt link is live
[14:05] <sergiusens> nik90, just showed up on summit :-)
[14:05] <dobey> "live" ?
[14:05] <ppetraki> yes
[14:05] <ppetraki> and we're 5m late :)
[14:05] <Mirv> I added the youtube link to Etherpad. Summit page is still "We'll be right back'
[14:05] <dobey> it says "please stand by" here
[14:05]  * geddy has his veggies ready for when jono tells us to eat them
[14:05] <Mirv> ppetraki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zqECljI4E4
[14:06] <dpm> now also the feed on the page is live
[14:06] <Mirv> dpm: yay!
[14:06] <dpm> :-)
[14:06] <nik90> dpm: +1
[14:07] <t1mp> hello :)
[14:07] <Corasaaa> Hi
[14:07] <bittin> i can see you :)
[14:07] <dobey> ffs, finally got an actual stream
[14:07] <nik90> t1mp: hi
[14:08] <sergiusens> rotating timezones should be used
[14:08] <sergiusens> next uds should be +4 hours and so on
[14:08] <marcoceppi> \o/ charmers
[14:09] <fagan> yay got here on time!!!
[14:09] <Mirv> sergiusens: I vote -8 hours next :D
[14:10] <t1mp> sergiusens: bad idea, for me it ends now at 20:00
[14:10] <t1mp> even 21:00
[14:10] <t1mp> +4 would be 1am
[14:10] <dobey> t1mp: think about the people who are having it end at 1am for them, now
[14:11] <yonsson> What's up?
[14:11] <t1mp> sergiusens, Mirv ok then let's make a compromize. +4-8/2 = -4. perfect :)
[14:11] <dobey> or whom it ends at 9 am for
[14:11] <veeru> ssup?
[14:11] <t1mp> dobey: uh. yeah, you're right.
[14:12] <dobey> like everyone in Taiwan :)
[14:14] <Mirv> t1mp: any - is + for me :)
[14:14] <dobey> something that would be great though, would be pre-filled links direct to the YouTube page for the stream, on the schedule
[14:14] <mhall119> dobey: if Google would let us we would
[14:14] <pavakpaul> how do i join hangout? my google id is plus.google.com/+pavakpaul & email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:15] <mhall119> pavakpaul: every session will have a different hangout
[14:15] <dobey> pavakpaul: you can't join *this* hangout
[14:15] <mhall119> pavakpaul: ask the person running it for the URL
[14:15] <dobey> you can possibly join hangouts for other sessions though
[14:15] <t1mp> Mirv: -20? ;)
[14:15] <fagan> I found it pretty annoying that you couldn't have 1 link. Like every other streaming site has the single link thing
[14:15] <dobey> the intro/keynote hangouts are special though
[14:15] <pavakpaul> why? He said anyone can join???
[14:15] <fagan> Its a big downside of youtube in general
[14:16]  * aquarius watches world-famous vegetable talk. :)
[14:16] <yonsson> Hello.
[14:16] <mhall119> fagan: one link to what?
[14:16] <aquarius> Cool that sessions have a "join the hangout" button now.
[14:16] <iBobb> Hello, am i the only one struggling to find where's that Hangout he's talking about?
[14:16] <fagan> mhall119: to a youtube stream
[14:16] <dobey> iBobb: they don't exist yet
[14:16] <mhall119> iBobb: you can join the hangout for non-plenary sessions, this one is a plenary
[14:17] <devmer11> is this live?
[14:17] <marcoceppi> iBobb: each session has it's own hangout, join the IRC channel for that session then ask in the room for the link to the hangout if you wish to join that session
[14:17] <marcoceppi> devmer11: yes
[14:17] <null_wang> hello everyone
[14:17] <t1mp> mhall119: it would be nice then to have the hangout url on the summit page for the session
[14:17] <iBobb> thank you
[14:17] <devmer11> thanks
[14:17] <t1mp> devmer11: yes it is live
[14:17] <mhall119> t1mp: you do for regular sessions
[14:17] <mhall119> should anyway
[14:17] <mhall119> I think I made that change
[14:17] <t1mp> mhall119: cool thanks :)
[14:18] <mhall119> t1mp: the link would appear above the embedded video
[14:18] <Mirv> let's see how it works in the next sessions
[14:19] <dobey> mhall119: above as in Y axis, or Z axis? ;)
[14:19] <dpm> o/
[14:19] <mhall119> dobey: Y :-P people who mess with z-index are evil
[14:20] <rickspencer3> tomatos are *not* vegetables
[14:20] <dobey> heh
[14:20] <mhall119> rickspencer3: they're virtually vegetables, so it works for virtual UDS :)
[14:20] <rickspencer3> :)
[14:20] <kenvandine> yay... we got our veggies for the week!
[14:20] <dobey> rickspencer3: indeed. they're an abomination
[14:21] <fagan> rickspencer3: technically they are because they grow above ground
[14:21] <rrnwexec> we need more bandwidth for vegetables over IP.
[14:21] <neroZZ> Dammit the name is BACON and he says eat vegetables
[14:21] <rickspencer3> rickalitious
[14:21] <rickspencer3> wtf?
[14:21] <mhall119> neroZZ: it's self-preservation
[14:21] <rickspencer3> lol
[14:22] <nik90> lol
[14:22] <neroZZ> Not what I've expected here
[14:23] <mhall119> Nobody expects the bacon introduction </montypython>
[14:23] <pavakpaul> i did found this hangout in google+ but can't find a option to join in hangout o.O
[14:23] <mhall119> pavakpaul: you can't join this one, you can join one of the next ones
[14:23] <ogra_> just glue on a beard
[14:23] <mhall119> ogra_: lol
[14:23] <yonsson> sounds American
[14:24] <pavakpaul> oh ok. so i need to be connected from the biggining? @mhall119 ?
[14:24] <fagan> Good olde brown
[14:24] <mhall119> pavakpaul: no,this is just a special session that other people can't join
[14:24] <dobey> pavakpaul: are you a keynote speaker?
[14:24]  * sergiusens wonders why people want to join the hangout for a plenary
[14:24] <mhall119> sergiusens: to hangout with those cool guys?
[14:24] <dobey> sergiusens: either to troll, or feel special
[14:25] <pavakpaul> no, I'm not.
[14:25] <dbarth> sergiusens: that's to comment about rick's new orange shirt to complement his signature headset
[14:25] <pavakpaul> no, I'm not
[14:25] <yonsson> Is this like Celebrate Ubuntu -week?
[14:25] <mhall119> pavakpaul: there are 2 kinds of sessoins at UDS
[14:25] <pavakpaul> okk
[14:25] <mhall119> plenary sessions are presentations made by just a couple people
[14:25] <sergiusens> dobey, lots of people looking at me while saying nothing and being idle doesn't make me feel special though
[14:25] <mhall119> discussion sessions are open to anybody who wants to discuss the topic
[14:25] <pavakpaul> ohh. in what i can join?
[14:25] <mhall119> pavakpaul: you can join the discussion sessions
[14:26] <dobey> sergiusens: well, you're special ;)
[14:26] <sergiusens> lol
[14:26] <itholic> is it apple magic mouse in left corner ? O.o
[14:26] <sergiusens> pavakpaul, look at the events and times here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/
[14:26] <fagan> itholic: its a good mouse
[14:26] <itholic> ye?
[14:26] <t1mp> rickspencer3: that picture was taken before switching to cat-based-management? ;)
[14:26] <fagan> itholic: doesn't have to be used just on macs
[14:27] <sergiusens> pavakpaul, find a session you can contribute to and join the hangout
[14:27] <itholic> yeah, i know taht
[14:27] <itholic> that
[14:27] <pavakpaul> OK thanks sergiusens :)
[14:27] <mhall119> t1mp: cat-based-management is an oxymoron
[14:27] <devmer11> Microsoft Serial Mouse FTW!
[14:27] <fagan> I have a steelseries kinzu v2 :)
[14:27] <yonsson> That picture was taken when his hair looked decent.
[14:27] <Corasaaa> Hahahahahah
[14:27] <sergiusens> pavakpaul, if it's a busy hangout/session; and your contribution by being on the hangout isn't going to be that big; opt for following on irc instead so other people have a chance to get in
[14:27] <jono_> yonsson, harsh
[14:27] <jono_> lol
[14:27] <t1mp> mhall119: I liked the idea :)
[14:28] <t1mp> cats rule :)
[14:28] <mhall119> yeah, like Nero
[14:28] <pavakpaul> OK thanks :)
[14:28] <itholic> i'm on university and i dont have sound now ...  i hate pc without speakers, goddamn
[14:28] <dobey> mhall119: is Rome burning again?
[14:28] <nik90> wow I did not know about the following devel deature
[14:28] <mhall119> itholic: these will all be recorded if you want to watch later, just come back to the same page
[14:28] <nik90> s/deature/feature
[14:29] <Aaruni> nik90: s/wrong/correct/
[14:29] <nik90> Aaruni: erm yes, that's what I did :P
[14:29] <mhall119> dobey: evidently the design team is :)
[14:29] <itholic> bb
[14:29] <dobey> heh
[14:30] <fagan> I like that everything is recorded now
[14:30] <nik90> oh yeah I remember the old days where I tried to listen to UDS session using the audio streams..I like the new format much better
[14:30] <jono_> mhall119, Zoltan all set for the SDK sess?\
[14:30] <marcoceppi> fagan: a lot of the old UDS sessions were recorded too, fwiw
[14:30] <pavakpaul> off topic,  how can i talk/chat with canonical about some stuffs? I've created a customized Ubuntu based Distro. So I'd like to talk with them if i should care about something that i haven't
[14:31] <mhall119> jono_: yeah, I'm going to start that one since balloons is starting the other I was scheduled for
[14:31] <mhall119> jono_: so you're off the hook :)
[14:31] <jono_> mhall119, ahhh cool
[14:31] <jono_> thanks
[14:31] <jono_> I should be in most of it anyway
[14:31] <fagan> marcoceppi: yeah I remember watching them before but it was like 1 in ever 3 sessions
[14:31] <mhall119> pavakpaul: there's a bunch of #ubuntu- channels here on Freenode, most are filled with Canonical people
[14:31] <dobey> pavakpaul: go to canonical.com and follow the "contact" link to get in touch about trademark issues or whatever
[14:32] <pavakpaul> ok. I need to talk with them about Oikyo Linux
[14:32] <mhall119> pavakpaul: is it technical or legal questions?
[14:32] <pavakpaul> ok thanks @mhall119 && dobey
[14:32] <pavakpaul> legal things @mhall119
[14:32] <mhall119> ah, quickly, that brings back memories
[14:32] <mhall119> pavakpaul: ah, then follow what dobey said above
[14:33] <pavakpaul> OK, I'll :)
[14:33] <fagan> Ill have to remind myself for mark's keynote
[14:34] <pavakpaul> anyway, we did write something in here: http://goo.gl/l2dFAA @mhall119
[14:36] <mhall119> pavakpaul: oh nice, you're using Unity too, did you get your custom packages into the Ubuntu archives?
[14:36] <yonsson> How many mobile OSs have multiple user support?
[14:37] <fagan> yonsson: none im pretty sure
[14:37] <Corasaaa> Android
[14:37] <mhall119> pavakpaul: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/107456658617967904628/+MichaelHall119/posts/WS5rU4be2ye is mine :)
[14:37] <Corasaaa> I've a tablet with multiple user
[14:37] <Corasaaa> But it doesn't work well
[14:37] <fagan> android it depends on how its setup though by default the way its shipped to users it doesn't
[14:38] <pavakpaul> mhall119: No, I did created Oikyo Linux to make it even better. And it's completely based on user experience. People talk about problems, and I just tryed to solve them. and I did tried to make a really easy distro for the new users.
[14:39] <fagan> Wow I was 6 minutes behind on the video
[14:39] <pavakpaul> @mhall119: Added. but I do prefer fb. I'm here: http://fb.com/pavakatubuntu
[14:39] <iBobX> that's awesome...
[14:41] <nik90> dpm: I see you in that pic
[14:41] <dpm> nik90, ah, yeah, that brings nice memories :)
[14:42] <pavakpaul> mhall119: Yeah unity is here. I just love this DE. but I did remove the online searches and left that on users as Richard Stallman said :)
[14:42] <fagan> rickspencer3: anything going on with Mir with regards to gaming? Im pretty interested in looking at performance of it
[14:42] <fagan> good session dudes
[14:43] <mhall119> fagan: there was an announcement a while back about SDL being ported to Mir, did you see that?
[14:43] <pavakpaul> mhall119: I'm now outy now. will talk in g+ :)
[14:43] <pavakpaul> bye everyone
[14:43] <rickspencer3> fagan, `well, I hear that there has been some solid work upstream in SDL to support Mir
[14:44] <fagan> Yeah SDL was a pretty big step
[14:47] <Disward> .
[14:53] <Aaruni> we be live
[14:53] <mhall119> Aaruni: not for the plenary
[14:54] <Aaruni> hmm
[14:54] <mhall119> it ended a few minutes ago
[14:54] <Aaruni> :\
[14:54] <mhall119> you must be watching the recording
[14:54] <Aaruni> nvm
[14:54] <robinhoodmjp> so this is NOT live then
[14:54] <Aaruni> when I got to it, it was "stand-by"
[14:54] <Aaruni> when I reload, its over
[14:54] <Aaruni> :|
[14:54] <Aaruni> damn it
[14:55] <ogra_> Aaruni, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zqECljI4E4
[14:55] <ogra_> (that's the recording)
[14:55] <Aaruni> thanks
[14:55] <AnandSoni> hi
[14:55] <AnandSoni> is that started
[14:55] <AnandSoni> ?
[14:55] <Aaruni> AnandSoni: ended
[14:55] <Aaruni> :(
[14:57] <mhall119> you can get the schedule at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/ the 1500 UTC sessions are about to start live
[14:57] <AnandSoni> oh
[14:57] <AnandSoni> ok
[15:02] <aquarius> mhall119, I don't know who sorts this stuff out, but whatever changes the topics for the UDS IRC channels still seems to think we're in UDS 13.11 rather than this UDS?
[15:03] <mhall119> aquarius: it's some IRC bot, I don't konw who owns it
[15:03] <aquarius> mhall119, ah, OK. Perhaps dholbach knows
[15:03] <aquarius> or dpm, ping ^
[15:05] <dholbach> aquarius, I pinged tsimpson on #ubuntu-community-team
[15:05] <dholbach> asking in #ubuntu-irc should work probably as well
[15:07] <dpm> aquarius, running a session, sorry
[15:22] <ignerous> hello
[15:23] <ignerous> everyone
[18:39] <Spirinox> QUESTION: will you answer our questions?
[18:47] <sergiusens> Spirinox, there is no session running here...
[18:48] <Spirinox> Yeah...... i though it was live
[18:49] <sergiusens> it was live 4 hours ago ;-)
[18:49] <Spirinox> i'm always too late ^^'
[18:50] <Spirinox> I'll come back when there is a live. See you


[07:32] <ob1> does anyone test apps on Nexus 7 ?
[07:55] <kalikiana> t1mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/galleryTweaksPage/+merge/221517
[07:55] <kalikiana> t1mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/demoToolbar/+merge/217439
[08:01] <DanChapman> Good Morning
[08:34] <Aki-Thinkpad> DanChapman, good monday
[08:50] <danielbeck> hello! a new version of "green mahjong" was published in the click store. I wanted to ask if someone could try it out - so that I know if it starts now. (The touch emulator does not work for me).
[08:51] <popey> danielbeck: hiya
[08:52] <danielbeck> hey popey :-)
[08:52] <popey> had you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtchooser/+bug/1327576 ?
[08:53] <danielbeck> is that a new bug?
[08:53] <danielbeck> (I didn't report this)
[08:54] <popey> i did
[08:55] <danielbeck> does the app occur, whenever the game starts?
[08:56] <popey> danielbeck: i just started the app and it crashed
[08:57] <popey> I am testing every app in the store, and yours was one of a few that failed
[08:57] <danielbeck> ok.
[08:57] <danielbeck> The app makes nothing fancy. It just uses QML and opens an oxide pane.
[08:58] <danielbeck> The HTML application is renderer in this oxide pane
[09:01] <popey> danielbeck: yeah, it still crashes here
[09:01] <popey> oh, the update wasn't installed, lemme get that
[09:02] <danielbeck> ah. The update resolved a problem with apparmor and the needed persmissions.
[09:02] <popey> ok, yes, it starts now
[09:02] <danielbeck> (framework-14.04-html-dev1 is needed now).
[09:03] <danielbeck> and the permission "webview".
[09:03] <danielbeck> ok.
[09:04] <popey> the display gets messed up when scrolling
[09:04]  * popey gets screenshot
[09:05] <popey> http://imgur.com/Z81xBOW danielbeck
[09:07] <danielbeck> This looks like a problem with oxide.
[09:08] <danielbeck> Ok, I will wait that a new version of the emulator comes out, so that I can use it (for the moment, the screens stays black for me). When this happen, I will investigate this I open an issue in launchpad.
[09:10] <danielbeck> popey: could you make one further test? could you open http://daniel-beck.org/greenmahjong/ with the webbrowser?
[09:10] <danielbeck> The HTML code is the same.
[09:13] <popey> ok
[09:14] <popey> fine in the browser
[09:14] <danielbeck> ok, thanks
[10:50] <om26er> rpadovani, Hi! do you know if there was some user testing done on the calculator app ?
[10:50] <om26er> the buttons seem to be a bit small on the calculator to perform calculations quickly
[10:52] <rpadovani> om26er, o/ Dunno, but size of buttons are in a design document IIRC, so I think some studies have been made
[12:04] <nerochiaro> popey: do you have some time to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1322121 ?
[12:06] <popey> nerochiaro: sure
[12:06] <nerochiaro> pop
[12:07] <nerochiaro> popey: on image 75 i can still reproduce the case when it doesn't happen
[12:07] <nerochiaro> popey: as per my last comment
[12:07]  * popey tests
[12:08] <Aki-Thinkpad> Happy tax freedom day
[12:11] <popey> nerochiaro: left a comment
[12:14] <nerochiaro> popey: i'm using #75 is that more or less recent than #4 ?
[12:15] <popey> #75 is the very latest
[13:12] <ogra_> popey, any idea what that error on Kiba Kumba means ?
[13:12]  * ogra_ doesnt get it
[13:12] <ogra_> the two lines are identical
[13:18] <popey> ogra_: i dont know, sorry. one for jdstrand
[13:19] <jdstrand> ??
[13:19] <ogra_> well, there is a space and a comma ... i re-uploaded with both dropped
[13:19] <jdstrand> Kiba Kumba?
[13:19] <popey> jdstrand: it fails because title != description
[13:19] <ogra_> "lint_control_description_match": {
[13:19] <ogra_> "text": "Description=Kiba Kumba - Jungle Chaos, html5 online game does not match manifest title=Kiba Kumba - Jungle Chaos, html5 online game "
[13:19] <ogra_> }
[13:19] <popey> but they are the same
[13:19] <ogra_> there is a space at the end of the line ... and it includes a comma ...
[13:20] <ogra_> i uploaded a changed click ... lets see
[13:20] <popey> you can run the tests yourself before uploading btw ☻
[13:20] <popey> save time
[13:20] <jdstrand> ah well, they aren't the same then :)
[13:20] <ogra_> jdstrand, why is that ?
[13:20] <ogra_> jdstrand, they both contain the same space and comma
[13:21] <jdstrand> yes, I think the sdk can do that, but you can also install and run the click-reviewers-tools
[13:21] <jdstrand> I thought you said one did and one didn't
[13:21] <popey> passes now ogra_
[13:21] <jdstrand> it should just be doing a string comparison
[13:21] <ogra_> jdstrand, no, both were identical ... but there was a comma in both lines and a space at the end of the line in both
[13:21] <jdstrand> nothing fancy
[13:22] <ogra_> i assume one of them confudsed the tools
[13:22] <ogra_> *confused
[13:22] <jdstrand> maybe one is doing a chomp type thing
[13:22] <ogra_> well, seems it passed now
[13:22] <jdstrand> ogra_: can you give me the affected click?
[13:22] <ogra_> yep
[13:24] <ogra_> jdstrand, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/com.ubuntu.developer.ogra.kiba-kumba_0.2_all.click
[13:24]  * ogra_ goes back to enjoy the sun :=
[13:24] <ogra_> :)
[13:28] <davmor2> ogra_: no fair you can't have a national holiday and sun I'm pretty sure that is against the rules
[13:52] <nik90> t1mp: ping
[13:52] <t1mp> nik90: hello
[13:53] <t1mp> nik90: you have 20 minutes and then my free airport internet will stop :s
[13:53] <nik90> t1mp: oh you are travelling..woops
[13:53] <nik90> t1mp: Is it not possible to set a label's font.pixelSize to 0?
[13:53] <nik90> t1mp: I am unable to set the label font size to 0 :(
[13:53] <t1mp> why would you want that? 0 is very small
[13:54] <nik90> t1mp: and if you are wondering why the hell I am do that...well I need to animate it from font size 0 to font size units.dp(410
[13:54] <nik90> units.dp(41)
[13:54] <t1mp> for Label it is recommended to use fontSize (a string)
[13:55] <t1mp> nik90: does it work for Text?
[13:55] <nik90> t1mp: nope..even upstream Text wont accept font size 0
[13:56] <t1mp> nik90: yeah, that's what I just figured out also, we don't put any restrictions on fontSize for Label, that's all in Text
[13:57] <t1mp> nik90: does it look bad if you start with a pixelSize of 1?
[13:57]  * nik90 checks now
[13:57] <t1mp> you can also animate the opacity if you don't want it visible initially
[13:58] <nik90> t1mp: yeah it looks bad when I set pixelSize to 1...I suppose I will have to resort to animating the opacity to workaround it
[14:22] <nerochiaro> bfiller: when you finish there on mumble can you also update me on the status of the things i did for the recording on desktop ? did they end up in a silo and worked ok ?
[14:34] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i have been talking to florian about that and he suggested me that to improve things further we should autodetect cameras that produce frames in an already encoded format and set up the recording to use that format
[14:35] <balloons> ahayzen, ping
[14:35] <ahayzen> balloons, pong
[14:38] <balloons> ahayzen, so re: mediascanner. It seems the issue is isolated to utopic
[14:38] <balloons> trusty seems to work properly
[14:38] <ahayzen> balloons, i'm on trusty and it doens't work :P
[14:39] <ahayzen> balloons, read my latest comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner2/+bug/1326753/comments/5
[14:39] <ahayzen> balloons, note you have to have the coreapps PPA to have an up to date mediascanner2
[14:40] <ahayzen> balloons, i still think it is library size as that makes the 'most sense' to then cause timeouts
[14:41] <ahayzen> balloons, how did you create that dump, i could try doing it on my trusty machine to see if it is similar?
[14:47] <balloons> ahayzen, weird.. I can only say it crashes straight out for me on utopic
[14:47] <balloons> with no library
[14:47] <ahayzen> balloons, maybe that is another issue lol
[14:48] <ahayzen> balloons, all i know is that for the devices/library sizes i stated in the bug are what it (doesn't ) work for me and victor
[14:50] <balloons> ahayzen, ok, should mention you need to have the coreapps ppa to have the proper version of mediascanner
[14:50] <balloons> what version would that be anyway? probably should specify
[14:51] <ahayzen> balloons, i'll add that
[14:54] <ahayzen> balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner2/+bug/1326753/comments/6
[14:57] <balloons> ahayzen, so second question is, on trusty, do the tests run for you?
[14:57] <balloons> on the desktop that is
[14:57] <ahayzen> balloons, music-app doesn't run
[14:57] <ahayzen> balloons, my trusty machine is the entry under doesn't work... 'trusty baremetal laptop ~3000 tracks in library'
[14:57] <balloons> ahayzen, heh
[14:57] <popey> mhall119: bug 1328144
[14:58] <balloons> popey, weird that it works on your trusty machine, but not ahayzen's
[14:58] <ahayzen> balloons, my mako and utopci VM works
[14:58] <balloons> and doesn't work on my utopic machine, but does for ahayzen
[14:58] <balloons> this are contradictory statements here
[14:58] <ahayzen> balloons, so for me it looks like trusty doesn't work and utopic is fine lol
[14:58] <mhall119> thanks popey
[14:58] <ahayzen> balloons, Victor's utopic mako didn't work though
[14:59] <ahayzen> balloons, the only correlation i could spot between me and victor's testing was the library size
[15:01] <ahayzen> balloons, and the other oddity is that if you put a high CPU load on your machine then it works....
[15:02] <mhall119> popey: is phablet-screenshot broken agian, or is it just me?
[15:02] <popey> mhall119: known bug, the mir_socket moved from /tmp to /var/run
[15:03] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/+bug/1327139
[15:03] <balloons> ahayzen, it's just weird.. so on a machine that does work for you, do the tests run ahayzen ?
[15:03] <ahayzen> balloons, define tests...
[15:03] <ahayzen> balloons, if you mean the ap tests for mediascanner2... then no :/
[15:04] <ahayzen> balloons, last time i tried it would just show your real library but i can try again hang on...
[15:04] <mhall119> thanks popey, fixed it myself for now
[15:05] <balloons> ahayzen, ahh right.. I remember that
[15:05] <balloons> ahayzen, which is a bit wild, as that's the desktop mocking bit
[15:05] <ahayzen> balloons, and before that it removed your /home ;)
[15:07] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah #498 just shows the real music on my utopic VM rather than the mocked/hacked
[15:19] <balloons> ahayzen, cool, that's helpful
[15:19] <ahayzen> balloons, let me know if you want me to run more tests
[15:20] <balloons> ahayzen, well I want you to say they work
[15:20] <balloons> it's really a bit hard since they don't for me
[15:20] <balloons> I may try and change that so I can have a deeper look
[15:20] <ahayzen> balloons, hah
[15:43] <rickspencer3> o/
[15:43] <daker> mhall119: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1260016
[15:46] <mhall119> daker: \o/
[15:46] <mhall119> we need that to switch Trojita to Oxide
[15:46] <mhall119> popey: ^^
[15:46] <daker> mhall119: add your +1
[15:47] <popey> DanChapman: ^ ☻
[15:51] <DanChapman> popey :-D
[15:53] <DanChapman> daker, mhall119 also it would need to be able to do multiple asynchronous requests per url scheme. It's a limitation we've hit with WebKit as it only creates on QQuickNetworkReply per scheme. Could i add that to that bug or create another? I'd love to move to oxide asap
[15:54] <DanChapman> s/create on/create one
[15:54] <daker> DanChapman: comment on the bug report or ask chrisccoulson/oSoMoN
[15:56] <DanChapman> daker sure i'll add a comment :-)
[15:56] <oSoMoN> DanChapman, please add input and feature requests to the bug report
[16:37] <mhall119> DanChapman: hey, there's going to be an app showcase lightning talks session at the end of UOS on thursday, would you want to talk about and demo Trojita?
[16:37] <mhall119> daker: ^^ same question, only s/Trojita/something else/
[16:39] <mhall119> rickspencer3: jdstrand ^^
[16:40] <mhall119> nik90: ^^ for Flashback would be awesome
[16:40] <jdstrand> I don't really have anything to demo
[16:40] <nik90> mhall119: I am already sort of demoing Flashback for the Convergence session I have on Tuesday
[16:41] <mhall119> jdstrand: Blabble is yours right?  My kids and I play that every time we're stuck waiting somewhere
[16:42] <jdstrand> hehe, nice!
[16:42] <jdstrand> it is mine
[16:42] <jdstrand> it isn't new though...
[16:42] <mhall119> they don't have to be new
[16:42] <mhall119> it's just a chance to show off what you've done
[16:43] <mhall119> if any of you want to show off your app, please add yourself to http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-applications-showcase
[16:43] <jdstrand> ack
[16:43] <jdstrand> oh, Trojita is usable??
[16:43] <jdstrand> I really need an email app
[16:49] <mhall119> jdstrand: very nearly usable, still waiting on the sending mail functionality,which is requiring some cross-collaboration with the desktop GUI bits
[16:58] <jdstrand> neat
[18:40] <nik90> mhall119: hey, I remember you showing me your code of the bottom panel at Malta, do you have a link to it?
[19:06] <ahayzen> nik90, have you looked at this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/+junk/vscale/view/head:/vscale.qml
[19:07] <mhall119> nik90: let me see if I've pushed it to LP yet
[19:09] <nik90> ahayzen: will take a look thnx
[19:10] <ahayzen> nik90, may not be what you want but is an interesting demo of what can be done
[19:11] <mhall119> nik90: lp:~mhall119/communitycast/client
[19:11] <mhall119> nik90: rev 9 adds it
[19:11] <nik90> mhall119: thnx
[19:12] <mhall119> np
[19:16] <nik90> mhall119: when I try to run it, I get the error that Autolinker.js is missing from the components folder
[19:17] <mhall119> oh, I probably forgot to bzr add it
[19:18] <mhall119> nik90: it's in rev10
[19:19] <nik90> mhall119: yup works now :)
[19:19] <mhall119> :)
[19:19] <mhall119> ignore the UbuntuAccount stuff, that's WIP
[19:21] <nik90> ok
[23:55] <TheSmackTimeGrou> Good Evening


[04:01] <Rcart> Hello. I'd like to work in this bug #703106
[04:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 703106 in xdg-utils "xdg-update-menu overwrites the /usr/share/applications/defaults.list symlink with a file." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703106
[04:02] <Rcart> But i don't know if the patch would be accepted
[09:17] <gtriderxc> hi
[09:17] <gtriderxc> I know it's not translators room
[09:17] <gtriderxc> but
[09:17] <gtriderxc> there is no1 there
[09:17] <gtriderxc> could anyone help me to transalate that string:
[09:18] <gtriderxc> The following packages have been kept back (%(count)s):
[09:18] <gtriderxc> how should I understand keeping back??
[09:31] <htorque> gtriderxc, AFAIK it means that there is an update for that package available, but it's not going to be installed because it would cause problems (due to unfulfilled dependencies)
[09:31] <htorque> gtriderxc, basically it's a safety measure
[09:32] <gtriderxc> so...
[09:33] <gtriderxc> it maens that the package has been kept back after updating??
[15:31] <hjd> Hi all!. Does someone know of a more specific package I should reassign bug 705123 to before confirming it?
[15:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 705123 in meta-gnome2 "Options tab missing from Startup Programs prefs dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705123
[15:33] <yofel> hjd: try to follow the applications instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
[15:39] <hjd> yofel: thanks. Found it via dpkg -S.
[15:47] <hjd> another question: wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags says 'regression-release' is used for stable releases, while wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RegressionTracking says stable or dev. How do I know which is right?
[15:50] <yofel> hjd: first page needs to be updated, it *was* only used for stable releases, but since regression-potential is gone it's now used for either
[15:52] <yofel> I removed the 'stable' part
[15:52] <hggdh> feel free to update it as needed
[15:52] <hggdh> oops
[15:53] <hggdh> as usual, yofel is faster than I am ;-)
[15:53] <yofel> just there by chance :P
[15:54] <yofel> hggdh: actually, should I add something like "Should be used together with a tag for the release the regression is found in."
[15:54] <yofel> ?
[15:55] <hjd> yofel: ok, thanks. I'll tag the bug above with it then.
[15:56] <yofel> "was found in" rather
[16:00] <bullgard4> On my Maverick computer sometimes an error message appears saying I should direct to Bugzilla. Usually it asks me to install additional packages so that a more meaningful output will be produced. Why have the Ubuntu maintainers provided this mechanism in addition to the ubuntu-bug mechanism? Both mechanisms seem to cover almost the same task. What is the most important difference between the...
[16:00] <bullgard4> ...two mechanisms?
[16:01] <yofel> *which* application gives the messge?
[16:01] <yofel> KDE applications for example will request you to file bug in the KDE bugtracker, not in the ubuntu one since that's where the bugs should go anyway
[16:01] <yofel> *file the bug
[16:03] <yofel> also: apport is *disabled* for crash reporting in stable releases, so some applications will get their own crash handler triggered since apport doesn't handle the crash
[16:19] <Varc> Hello guys
[17:03] <bullgard4> yofel: I obtained an Bugzilla error message window several times. I do not remember well what application was running. I believe that it was Banshee. But my question is meant in general (that is, application independent).
[17:05] <yofel> well, apport crash reporting is only enabled by default in the end phase of the development release, in all other cases the crash is either ignored or left to the crash handler of that application
[17:05] <bullgard4> yofel: What do you mean by "[17:01]	<yofel>	*file the bug"?
[17:05] <yofel> and there are applications where apport is intentionally not used
[17:05] <yofel> that was a grammatical correction for my sentense before
[17:06] <yofel> *sentence :/
[17:06] <bullgard4> yofel: I ingtroduced my question with "On my Maverick". So it is plain what kind of release I was referring to.
[17:07] <yofel> yes and I just answered in a more generic way, specific: apport crash reporting is disabled on maverick
[17:07] <bullgard4> Ah!
[17:07] <yofel> so if an application has it's own crash handler you'll see that, if it doesn't, the crash is completely ignored
[17:08] <bullgard4> Thank you verx much for explaining.
[17:10] <yofel> the reason for that is simply that it can take quite a while for apport to gather information in the crash, taking system resources in the meanwhile and making you have to wait until it's finished to restart the application in some cases
[17:17] <bullgard4> I see.
[17:25] <Varc> Hello charlie-tca
[17:25] <charlie-tca> Hello, Varc
[17:26] <Varc> How are you?
[17:26] <charlie-tca> tired, today
[17:27] <Varc> Work?
[17:29] <charlie-tca> no, I am retired
[17:30] <penguin42> sounds like a good idea
[17:31] <Varc> I see, if i can ask, what was your work?
[17:33] <charlie-tca> Plumber
[17:33] <Varc> What is Plumper?
[17:35] <charlie-tca> plumber is the water pipe fixer
[17:35] <Varc> Ohhh, I see. Sound very interesant
[17:36] <charlie-tca> It can be very interesting, but it can be very dirty and hard to do
[17:37] <Varc> Well,  there is not perfect work
[18:01] <hggdh> yofel: (re you question @ 09:54): yes, should be used with a tag for the release it was found in
[18:02] <yofel> good :)
[18:02] <hggdh> and I had just answered (I guess it was bullgard4) a similar Q on the ubuntu-users list, but not in as much detail as you
[20:07] <njin> hello to all, please set this as wishlist for me, thanks. bug 696755
[20:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696755 in update-manager "Update manager has to manage issues" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696755
[21:00] <Varc> !es
[21:01] <ubot2> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[21:12] <wolfpack> Many people are facing problem with bcmwl in maverick .Ex: "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/571392". the fix have releaed for natty. It should be backported to maverick also
[21:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 571392 in bcmwl "package bcmwl-kernel-source <IP_ADDRESS> bdcom-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Invalid]
[21:16] <charlie-tca> That bug was not fixed, it was marked as invalid. I am looking at the other bug referenced.
[21:18] <charlie-tca> wolfpack: bug 557023 is the real bug. They have it in -proposed awaiting someone to verify the fix
[21:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 557023 in casper "update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557023
[21:19] <charlie-tca> It is targetted for maverick, lucid fix is awaiting verification.
[21:19] <charlie-tca> already fixed in natty
[21:21] <wolfpack> charlie-tca: bug 557023 was marked as fix releaed sometime back, and it is working fine with Maverick -->check this 703280
[21:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 557023 in casper "update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557023
[21:21] <charlie-tca> It's only fixed for natty. Maverick and lucid are awaiting fixes
[21:22] <charlie-tca> The first bug you gave, 571392, was closed as invalid, and Alberto referred you to 557023
[21:24] <wolfpack> Should I have direcly marked it as duplicate of 557023 ?
[21:24] <charlie-tca> Are you alberto?
[21:25] <charlie-tca> then yes
[21:25] <wolfpack> no i am naveen
[21:27] <wolfpack> charlie-tca: ^
[21:27] <charlie-tca>  Then no, you should not. It is already closed.
[21:27] <charlie-tca> and most likely, the fix to bug 557023 will fix the issue
[21:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 557023 in casper "update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557023
[21:30] <wolfpack> charlie-tca: Yes thats what i am saying....the 557023 is able to fix the maverick bug.....So what should I do when I get  bug like 703280 as many user are faing this problem??
[21:30] <charlie-tca> bug 703280
[21:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 703280 in bcmwl "package bcmwl-kernel-source <IP_ADDRESS> bdcom-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 571392)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703280
[21:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 571392 in bcmwl "package bcmwl-kernel-source <IP_ADDRESS> bdcom-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571392
[21:33] <charlie-tca> dup them to the bug in work, bug 557023
[21:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 557023 in casper "update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557023
[21:34] <charlie-tca> There's no point in making them a duplicate of a closed bug, if they are experiencing issues now
[21:34] <wolfpack> ok. and should I ask them to try the fix released for natty as was done in bug 703280?
[21:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 703280 in bcmwl "package bcmwl-kernel-source <IP_ADDRESS> bdcom-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 571392)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703280
[21:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 571392 in bcmwl "package bcmwl-kernel-source <IP_ADDRESS> bdcom-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571392
[21:34] <charlie-tca> wolfpack: I suspect the reason that did not get marked a duplicate is because you will have to manually mark every dup in it to the master bug
[21:35] <wolfpack> ok
[21:35] <charlie-tca> that would be up to you. It is fine to ask, then close their bug.
[21:35] <wolfpack> but after marking dup ..I can't make it Invalid.
[21:36] <wolfpack> should I remove dup and then mark as Invalid ?
[21:39] <charlie-tca> after marking it a dup, you do not to mark it invalid.
[21:39] <wolfpack> ok
[21:40] <wolfpack> charlie-tca: thanks :)
[21:40] <charlie-tca> If the they fixed it, it is not necessary to mark it a dup, you can just mark it invalid with a comment it is fixed with an update
[21:40] <charlie-tca> If you mark it a dup, it is valid, so marking it takes care of it


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