[18:51] <leg3nd> ZULO, your trying to connect to a gateway that is not in the same subnet
[18:51] <dejan_> why i have 2 users :S
[18:52] <dejan_> dejan    tty7         2011-03-26 14:38 (:0)
[18:52] <dejan_> dejan    pts/0        2011-03-26 19:09 (:0.0)
[18:52] <dejan_> why is this it should be only 1 user
[18:52] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, 'Module nvidia not found
[18:52] <Guest46552> when i click places > home folder, kino starts, how do i change this?
[18:52] <wingless> I'm facing a strange problem.  Any ideas?
[18:52] <ZULO> leg3nd, but if i use as gateway my wlan0 ip i have connection to both routers
[18:52] <edbian> dejan_, The tty7 is your graphical env.   the pts/0 is the terminal you have open
[18:52] <Guest46552> i want nautilus or something to start
[18:52] <edbian> dejan_, You're logged in twice. (perfectly normal)
[18:52] <dejan_> why i don't see apache
[18:52] <leg3nd> ZULO, dhclient should correct it. if your using static you need to use these settings:  address: <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>, subnet mask <IP_ADDRESS>, network <IP_ADDRESS>, broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:52] <edbian> dejan_, That is not a user
[18:53] <dejan_> apache is running but i don't see it
[18:53] <dejan_> it uses user
[18:53] <dejan_> called 'apache'
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, Sorry, that is not a user logged in right now.
[18:53] <dejan_> hm ok..
[18:53] <leg3nd> ZULO, your trying to make 2 subnets which isnt needed, that sounds like the real problem. Is there a reason for the 2 subnets?
[18:53] <guitar431> @dejan you could use the netsat command
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, It is a process that has the permissions of the user 'apache' but it doesn't actually log in.
[18:53] <dejan_> just 1 more thing how to check all users on my o
[18:53] <guitar431> netstat
[18:53] <dejan_> os
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, So it won't show up in who
[18:53] <glitchd> can i upgrade to kernel 2.6.38 if im still running 10.04?
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, Read the /etc/passwd file to see all the users
[18:53] <dejan_> ahm
[18:53] <dejan_> i see..
[18:54] <dejan_> but when I login i have to choose betwee my user and apache
[18:54] <dejan_> i think i made apache user im not sure
[18:54] <Dattebayo> can anyone tell me how can i run .dat(VCD) files?
[18:54] <ZULO> leg3nd, i want share internet connection with 2nd subnet
[18:54] <leg3nd> dejan_, the user is 'www-data' not apache
[18:54] <guitar431> @dejan netstat gives you all in and outgoing traffic
[18:54] <ZULO> leg3nd,  can i share this with only 1 net?
[18:54] <leg3nd> dejan_, its probably a security issue using a custom user unless you really know what your doing in regard to GID UID and groups
[18:54] <dejan_> there is no passwd directory in etc
[18:55] <dejan_> okok its file
[18:55] <giff> glitchd, yes it's possiblem there's ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[18:55] <leg3nd> ZULO, do you need more then 255 addresses? I just dont see why you would need to with that topology
[18:55] <ZULO> no, i need only 2 addres more xd
[18:55] <dejan_> but when ubuntu starts i have optuon to choose from which user i login one is mine other is apache
[18:56] <edbian> dejan_, Get rid of the apache user.  You shouldn't have that.
[18:56] <dejan_> how
[18:56] <TTY_problem> with my "old" keyboard if I type "1" in gedit it works but if I type "1" in terminal it writes  "~1"      How do you explain this?
[18:56] <nicofs> How can i set up vinagre via console?
[18:56] <glitchd> giff, how would i get the ppa?
[18:56] <dejan_> if i delete it i will still be able to use apache?
[18:56] <ikonia> TTY_problem: probably a difference keyboard map needed
[18:56] <dejan_> i have no idea of linux
[18:56] <glitchd> giff, and do u know if its supports a pae extension?
[18:56] <dejan_> im total beginner :S
[18:56] <dejan_> how to delete apache user pls
[18:57] <ikonia> dejan_: why do you want to do that
[18:57] <edbian> dejan_, Yes.  Apache uses the www-data user (which it handles) a user named 'apache' is complete unnecessary
[18:57] <leg3nd> ZULO, if your using NAT why dont you just change the mask on router 1 to something with more addresses
[18:57] <MarkusT> leg3nd: Nevermind, I figured it out. Just needed to mount /boot inside / on the mount point. :-)
[18:57] <caimlas__> dejan_, more than likely what you did was set a shell for the apache user. apache user should not have a shell.
[18:57] <dejan_> ikonia: if I don't need it
[18:57] <ikonia> dejan_: you need it to run apache
[18:57] <leg3nd> MarkusT, so the boot is encrypted too?
[18:57] <caimlas__> dejan_, I'm not 100% sure but I think ubuntu uses the same www-data user that debian does.
[18:57] <edbian> dejan_, http://www.ahinc.com/linux101/users.htm   Please try to google before asking
[18:57] <dejan_> someone told me to do that
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  odd.. gdm normally hides such users. ive never seen it show my apache user.
[18:57] <dejan_> :S
[18:57] <caimlas__> dejan_, so you shouldn't even need it, i don't think
[18:57] <insulina> how can I see what version is my ubuntu ?
[18:57] <dejan_> maybe he hacked my os? :S
[18:57] <dejan_> omg
[18:58] <dejan_> look what ikonia says
[18:58] <mrwes> insulina: from the terminal lsb_release -a
[18:58] <dejan_> i need that?
[18:58] <leg3nd> Dr_Willis, thats becuase apache isnt the default user.. www-data is..
[18:58] <caimlas__> dejan_, um so did you give the other guy the user/pass?
[18:58] <ikonia> dejan_: what ?
[18:58] <MarkusT> leg3nd: I'm not working with encryption, I'm trying to set up a server with LVM/RAID to which I don't have physical access to.
[18:58] <edbian> Dr_Willis, Apache does not have a user named apache.  It has a user named www-data
[18:58] <leg3nd> MarkusT, ooooohhhhhh, god that makes alot more sense now lol
[18:58] <dejan_> i think i have added it
[18:59] <dejan_> manually
[18:59] <dejan_> someone told me
[18:59] <giff> glitchd, no idea about pae, can't you use 64bit? here's a tutorial http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa
[18:59] <dejan_> maybe he hacked my os
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> dejan_: or you are being paranoid.
[18:59] <Randy105> I installed Lemon pos and cna not get it to work I get a database error any Ideas
[18:59] <dejan_> so now should i delete apache user?
[18:59] <leg3nd> dejan_, yes defenitly
[18:59] <glitchd> giff, i have tried 64 bit, i dont like it
[18:59] <leg3nd> dejan_, userdel apache
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  if you added a user. you can use rmuser or deluser or userdelete to remove it. i recall.
[18:59] <caimlas__> ikonia, dejan_ are you sure ubuntu uses the 'apache' user?
[18:59] <glitchd> giff, it never wants to work correctly for me
[18:59] <edbian> dejan_, Or the gui.  Please try something before asking us here.
[18:59] <glitchd> giff, neither has and version past 10.04
[18:59] <ikonia> caimlas__: no, it uses a user account called www-data, but you need "an" account to control apache
[18:59] <dejan_> dejan    tty7         2011-03-26 14:38 (:0)
[18:59] <dejan_> dejan    pts/0        2011-03-26 19:09 (:0.0)
[18:59] <dejan_> why is this
[18:59] <dejan_> wait
[19:00] <glitchd> giff, so im sticking with what works
[19:00] <dejan_> wait
[19:00] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <ikonia> dejan_: sudo userdel -r apache
[19:00] <edbian> caimlas__, ikonia dejan_ Ubuntu does not use an apache user.  apache uses www-data
[19:00] <dejan_> why error?
[19:00] <ikonia> edbian: I know this
[19:00] <caimlas__> edbian, that's what I thought.
[19:00] <vanillaslice> hello
[19:00] <caimlas__> don't think i've seen an apache user in a number of years on any distro
[19:00] <vanillaslice> can someone tell me how to delete applications?
[19:00] <vanillaslice> i have used apt-get to install something
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> vanillaslice:  sudo apt-get remove pacakgename
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> !apt | vanillaslice
[19:01] <vanillaslice> thanks Dr_Willis
[19:01] <dejan_> [sudo] password for dejan:
[19:01] <edbian> vanillaslice, apt-get purge to remove settings as well
[19:01] <dejan_> userdel: user apache is currently logged in
[19:01] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable
[19:01] <dejan_> im sure someone hacked my server :S
[19:01] <giff> glitchd, you should probably report a bug on your issues, 64bit works pretty fine these days with almost all hardware and software
[19:01] <dejan_> but when i type who there isn't user apache
[19:01] <dejan_> ..
[19:01] <ikonia> dejan_: ok, then you need to re-install the OS
[19:01] <dejan_> maybe he is hiding?
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  or you are being paranoid.. if you want to be 100% safe.. reinstall.
[19:01] <guitar431> @dejan type in a shell "netstat -a -v -n 5 > logdatei.txt" and paste the file to pastebin and give us the link
[19:01] <ebbe> Bump: My wireless connection keeps dropping and does not reconnect (even though it should reconnect automatically according to the setting). I'm using 10.04 and Broadcom BCM4312. I checked that I have the latest proprietary driver up and running. The really strange thing is that my windows machine does not drop the connection. What could be the problem?
[19:01] <ikonia> dejan_: ps -ef | grep -i http put that in a pastebin
[19:01] <edbian> dejan_, Are you listening to us?  who shows users that are logged in.  Not all users total
[19:01] <mrwes> dejan_: if I ever thought my server was hacked, I'd reinstall the OS
[19:02] <dejan_> omg
[19:02] <guitar431> @dejan we can tell you after this if you are hacked
[19:02] <vanillaslice> thanks guys
[19:02] <glitchd> giff, well im only talking from experience, i have given 64 bit a few chances, each time it has ended with me having to reinstall the whole os
[19:02] <dejan_> i will reinstall
[19:02] <dejan_> most def
[19:02] <dejan_> because i didn;t made swap
[19:02] <dejan_> :)
[19:02] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <glitchd> giff, so like i said, im sticking with 32 bit
[19:02] <ikonia> ok, then we are done
[19:02] <mrwes> heh
[19:02] <dejan_> any good tutorial to install ubuntu 10.10 pls
[19:02] <dejan_> for total beginner to linux
[19:02] <leg3nd> lol, dejan_  swap isnt really a big deal honestly, and your probably not hacked...
[19:02] <ikonia> !install | dejan_
[19:02] <dejan_> i need tutorial for beginner to make swap too
[19:02] <dejan_> i have no idea what is swap
[19:02] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable
[19:02] <leg3nd> dejan_, if you have NAT, your probably fine.
[19:02] <glitchd> dejan_, i would think u just install it like any other distro
[19:03] <ikonia> leg3nd: nat does not mean he's fine
[19:03] <glitchd> dejan_, boot from cd and go from there following the on-screen prompts
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  you may want to spend some time learning linux basics then - befor messing with apache.
[19:03] <leg3nd> ikonia, i highly doubt he got owned with a reverse tcp payload..
[19:03] <dejan_> edbian
[19:03] <dejan_> see this
[19:03] <ikonia> leg3nd: he did if he gave someone an account
[19:03] <dejan_> edbian:  [sudo] password for dejan:
[19:03] <dejan_> userdel: user apache is currently logged in
[19:03] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  and the default install setup makes a swap partition.
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  so log the apache user off.
[19:03] <dejan_> i cant delete apache user
[19:03] <dejan_> it says it is loged in
[19:03] <nickkontos> hello, my ubuntu 10.10 desktop installation doesn't boot up, after grub loads and i select any kernel, it cannot mount / (s to skip or m to manual) I got this after booting with a xubuntu live cd and hard reseting my machine instead of rebooting normaly... please help!
[19:03] <dejan_> but can't look with whi
[19:03] <dejan_> who*
[19:04] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep -i apache" in a pastebin please
[19:04] <leg3nd> dejan_, just pastebin netstat -antp and ill tell you if your hacked, its really not hard.
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  reboot to single user/recovery mode and remove the user perhaps.
[19:04] <edbian> dejan_, sudo who
[19:04] <edbian> ?
[19:04] <edbian> dejan_, It is very strange that you can't see the user.
[19:05] <dejan_> pls any tutorial about swap
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: stop
[19:05] <dejan_> i want swap on other partition as I have read is best solution?
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin
[19:05] <ikonia> stop
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> nickkontos:  try booting a live cd and fscking the filesystems perhaps.
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin
[19:05] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <dejan_> also please advise be how much space should I put for the swap?
[19:05] <dejan_> and also what filesystem to install
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap by default is on its own partition. Unless you set it up otherwise
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap is its own filesystem also.  the 'swap' filesystem. chedk your 'sudo fdisk -l' output.
[19:06] <dejan_> ikonia: now
[19:06] <Miri28> Hello, Does it possible to surf Internet via Iphone internet on Ubuntu ?
[19:06] <ikonia> dejan_: yes
[19:06] <ikonia> dejan_: use a pastebin
[19:06] <corambolino> hello
[19:06] <gechmog> If I rename a filesystem in /media/ with the 'mv' command, will that mess anything up? As in will I still be able to access that and not have to remount it or anything?
[19:06] <ikonia> Miri28: 4.3 ios makes a wirless hotspot
[19:06] <urupica> does anyone know in which file the wifi password is stored?
[19:06] <ikonia> gechmog: that is a bad idea
[19:06] <guitar431> exactly, netstat gives you all open connections so there is no need to fuck off through paranoia
[19:06] <leg3nd> ikonia, dejan_ , you guys are right the user should be deleted, but if your worried about a compromised system, you need to stop the service and close the port, the user can be dealt with ater.
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> Miri28:  check out how to 'teather' your iphone. thats the feature used to let pcs and other things to the internet throught ht phone.,.
[19:07] <spyzer> hi everyone i do not have a xorg.conf thought i have a hd radeon on my laptop. Do i need to create one in order to harness the full power of my gpu??
[19:07] <ikonia> leg3nd: I fully understand that, hence why I want to know if the user is running a process, stopping the account beeing deleted
[19:07] <oCean> guitar431: mind the language please
[19:07] <gechmog> ikonia: ah, I thought as much. :(
[19:07] <nickkontos> Dr_Willis, im online from the same xubuntu disk, how to fsck?
[19:07] <guitar431> :)
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> nickkontos:  the 'fsck' command.
[19:07] <kb_problem> hi again
[19:07] <ikonia> gechmog: I'm not laughing,
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[19:07] <ikonia> oops
[19:07] <nicofs> I need help setting up vinagre/vnc on a server i can only access via console... please, can someone help?
[19:07] <vanillaslice> okso i inustalled pure-ftpd-common, whic has compelted. but when i try to reinstall it gives me a message: pure-ftpd-common is already the newest version
[19:07] <corambolino> is information about hack lcd TV ?
[19:07] <vanillaslice> is there a trace of this somewhere?
[19:07] <ikonia> corambolino: no
[19:08] <ikonia> vanillaslice: trace of what ?
[19:08] <spyzer> umm is that an out of ubuntu question??
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  install some vnc service. configure it to run what desktop you want., set up a ssh tunnel if its over the internet. (no need on a local lan) and connect.
[19:08] <intrader> I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable
[19:08] <vanillaslice> ikoniaL this ftp server ... it seems to think it is still installed
[19:08] <Malu> anyone know how to get to play wmv movie files in ubuntu ?
[19:08] <ikonia> vanillaslice: open the package manager, search for pure-ftp mark it for uninstall
[19:08] <leg3nd> dejan_, its debatable, how much RAM do you have?
[19:08] <ZenT510> !codecs | Malu
[19:08] <vanillaslice> ikonia: this is on a VPS, so command line only
[19:09] <nicofs> Dr_Willis, i installed vinagre - but how do i set it up via console?
[19:09] <ikonia> vanillaslice: ok, use dpkg
[19:09] <spyzer> anybody??
[19:09] <leg3nd> dejan_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[19:09] <glitchd> i read that kernel 2.6.38 brings a huge performance boost, can anyone confirm this?
[19:09] <vanillaslice> cheers ikonia
[19:09] <leg3nd> dejan_, google if your friend
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  I dont think you want to use that one.. that one only shares teh current desktop. its limited.
[19:09] <ikonia> dejan_: forget swap
[19:09] <edbian> glitchd, Sure can.
[19:09] <ikonia> dejan_: focus on what you're doing, give me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache"
[19:09] <gechmog> ikonia: is there anyway you know of to rename a filesystem safely and easily?
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  stick to tightvnc, or vnc4server or some other vncserver you can configure easially.
[19:09] <spyzer> hi everyone i do not have a xorg.conf thought i have a hd radeon on my laptop. Do i need to create one in order to harness the full power of my gpu??
[19:09] <ikonia> gechmog: you can rename any file system, however /media is used by auto mounter, so renaming that one is a bad idea
[19:10] <nicofs> Dr_Willis, ok... i'll try...
[19:10] <leg3nd> ikonia, you do knwo thats not even going to give you the port..
[19:10] <ikonia> spyzer: yes, you will need to make one
[19:10] <ikonia> leg3nd: I don't want the port
[19:10] <glitchd> edbian, how big of a performance increase does it bring?
[19:10] <Malu> ty for the help :D
[19:10] <spyzer> ikonia: so will the default one have the necessary options
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  you could just ssh -X remotebox, and run an app. and not use vnc at all. this just shows a single app locally. not a whole desktop
[19:10] <leg3nd> ikonia, netstat  or a nmap -p1-65535 is more suited for defensive security.
[19:10] <ikonia> spyzer: no
[19:10] <spyzer> or do i need to add the options too
[19:10] <glitchd> edbian, is it really noticeable? meaning is it worth it to upgrade my kernel?
[19:10] <ikonia> leg3nd: I'm not interested in any of that, I want to know if the user is running a process
[19:10] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help me with install of Heimdall for ubuntu 10.10?
[19:10] <Darxus> "W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/main/source/Sources.gz  Hash Sum mismatch
[19:10] <gechmog> ikonia: thank you very for the info, I didn't know that xD
[19:10] <Darxus> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[19:11] <nickkontos> Dr_Willis, running it right now :D it has found many problems... is that good?
[19:11] <edbian> glitchd, It increases responsiveness under very heavy load.
[19:11] <ikonia> Darxus: what mirror are you using
[19:11] <glitchd> edbian, ok
[19:11] <kb_problem> How do I set Ubuntu to search hidden files/folders by default? I don't want to click "select more options" everytime.
[19:11] <Darxus> ikonia: That looks like I'm using the main one?
[19:11] <ikonia> Darxus: what "main one", what repo are you using
[19:11] <glitchd> edbian, also do u know if there are pae headers that can be installed on it because i have 8 gigs of ram and thats the only way i can use them with a 32 bit install
[19:12] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help me with install of Heimdall for ubuntu 10.10?
[19:12] <edbian> glitchd, I tried to find some info about it.  All I could find is some short alternative that does the same thing.
[19:12] <ikonia> glitchd: do not update your ubuntu machine to that kernel
[19:12] <dejan_> I am sorry
[19:12] <Darxus> ikonia: host is returning <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>.
[19:12] <glitchd> ikonia, whys that?
[19:12] <dejan_> my os freezed
[19:12] <edbian> glitchd, Why not use the 64 bit version of Ubuntu?  (11.04 will have the magic 200 line patch BTW)
[19:12] <dejan_> ikonia: can you please write that command
[19:12] <glitchd> edbian, and what are those?
[19:12] <ikonia> Darxus: I'm not asking you for host, I'm asking you for the name of the host
[19:12] <lefty__> Ook I need help putting Ubuntu on my Computer
[19:12] <dejan_> ikonia: for apache user
[19:12] <ikonia> dejan_: ps -ef | grep apache
[19:12] <edbian> glitchd, What are what?
[19:12] <glitchd> edbian, i just dont like 64 bit ubuntu
[19:13] <lefty__> I need help putting Ubuntu on my Computer
[19:13] <glitchd> edbian, the alternatives u spoke of
[19:13] <Darxus> ikonia: How would it be different from the one in the url I pasted?
[19:13] <oCean> kb_problem: you can set that using gconf-editor
[19:13] <ikonia> Darxus: give me the name of the host you are using if you want help, if not - stop talking
[19:13] <leg3nd> ikonia, if you want to kill processes for a user just use pkill, why compicate things.
[19:13] <dejan_> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/AHHU99b0
[19:13] <edbian> glitchd, Here's a whole thread about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13562/how-do-we-get-this-magic-performance-boosting-200-line-patch
[19:13] <ikonia> leg3nd: I don't want to kill anything, for the last time, I want to know what's running
[19:13] <leg3nd> dejan_, just run 'pkill -u apache && userdel apache'
[19:13] <leg3nd> ikonia, yea pkill does that for you
[19:13] <dejan_> ikonia: before freezing it were more apaches
[19:13] <ZenT510> !install | lefty__
[19:13] <ikonia> no it won't
[19:14] <Darxus> ikonia: I'm pretty sure I already answered your question.
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> userdel has a --force option. :)
[19:14] <intrader> I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help
[19:14] <Darxus> In the first line I said.
[19:14] <ikonia> leg3nd: I don't want to kill anything
[19:14] <dejan_> i am hacked?
[19:14] <dejan_> http://pastebin.com/AHHU99b0
[19:14] <christopher_> ikonia, use Windows I am about to format for Windows Ubuntu has some major issues
[19:14] <tbws> hey guys, nginx seems to be blocking my application update and upgrade functionality, is there anyway to solve this that's not at an application controled level?new and experimental stuff I can just do at home
[19:14] <dejan_> i am sure someome hacked me
[19:14] <tbws> http://pastebin.com/1asqJPh2
[19:14] <leg3nd> dejan_, no you just have alot of crap
[19:14] <lefty__> I have netbook
[19:14] <christopher_> everything is slow and buggy
[19:14] <ikonia> dejan_: you can't remove the apache user as the "apache" user is currently running an apache2 webserver
[19:14] <ikonia> dejan_: it is just a non-standard setup
[19:14] <dejan_> becasue whe i tried to del user apache it says user is loged in cant delete but when i type who there is no user apache loged in/
[19:14] <christopher_> like nothing works properly, brasero just wonr start
[19:14] <edbian> dejan_, That is normal.  Apache uses multiple processes to increase performance
[19:14] <leg3nd> dejan_, this is what you need to do to correct your problem
[19:15] <ikonia> dejan_: the user is in use running the apache webserver, so that's why you can't delete it
[19:15] <leg3nd> dejan_, chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/       /etc/init.d/apache2 stop   userdel --force apache
[19:15] <edbian> ikonia, apache does not use an apache user.  It uses a www-data user
[19:15] <ikonia> leg3nd: stop
[19:15] <dejan_> why i can't see it with who
[19:15] <ikonia> dejan_: do not do that
[19:15] <erUSUL> tbws: how it is blocking it?
[19:15] <ikonia> leg3nd: you don't know how his machine is setup,
[19:15] <zetyu> hello
[19:15] <christopher_> fuck Ubuntu and fuck all of you, some of you have been awesome to me but nothing works the way it should, I suggest work on making it stable rather than making a new unity BS thing
[19:15] <dejan_> pl
[19:15] <dejan_> ok
[19:15] <leg3nd> ikonia, iv been here for an hour, i do.
[19:15] <kb_problem> oCean: do you know the path for it?
[19:15] <ikonia> leg3nd: so ?
[19:15] <dejan_> ikonia: i wil lreinstall the os
[19:15] <zetyu> why postfix not available
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, he added a user with  G/UID around 1k.. chowned -R www/
[19:16] <zetyu>  i can't install it
[19:16] <erUSUL> zetyu: it is
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, and restarted the service
[19:16] <ikonia> dejan_: if you feel you have to - that's fine, but I do not believe you have to
[19:16] <erUSUL> !info postfix
[19:16] <tbws> erUSUL: won't perform any of the install's or upgrades i'm currently trying to make because of that error (currently running ludic btw)
[19:16] <dejan_> pls any good guide for making swap file and filesystem because i am total beginner to linux
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, so correct the user ownership, and delete the uneeded user.
[19:16] <tbws> *lucid
[19:16] <ikonia> leg3nd: why ? there is not a problem
[19:16] <zetyu> it is not wavailble
[19:16] <lefty__> I'm trying to get 10.10 netbook iso to install i put on my USB but it isnt booting
[19:16] <oCean> kb_problem: 1 moment
[19:16] <edbian> leg3nd, When he tries to delete the user 'apache' there is an error that apache is logged in
[19:16] <erUSUL> tbws: what error ?
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> zetyu:  update/upgrade  the pacakge listings. and try reinstalling it.
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, apache with G/UID of ~1001, thats a problem.
[19:16] <edbian> leg3nd, Please follow the discussion
[19:16] <ikonia> edbian: because it's running a webserver
[19:16] <ikonia> leg3nd: why is that a problem
[19:16] <leg3nd> edbian, read more, i said kill apache
[19:16] <zetyu> yes done
[19:17] <oCean> kb_problem: desktop > gnome > file_views, then show_hidden_files
[19:17] <edbian> ikonia, No, apache is not a user that apache uses
[19:17] <kb_problem> oCean: I found it
[19:17] <kb_problem> oh
[19:17] <tbws> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/1asqJPh2
[19:17] <dejan_> cmon dont fight :)
[19:17] <zetyu> i upgrade and update
[19:17] <edbian> leg3nd, apache does not use an apache user
[19:17] <leg3nd> ikonia, becuase thats too much power for a web server, its a security issue.
[19:17] <zetyu> but can't find my package
[19:17] <ikonia> edbian: on his machien it IS
[19:17] <ikonia> edbian: on his machine, it DOES
[19:17] <kb_problem> oCean: no thats not what I want. :P it'sfor  earch
[19:17] <leg3nd> edbian, yea he added it, apache uses www-data.
[19:17] <ikonia> leg3nd: don't talk nonsense
[19:17] <Goliath>  is jack 2 a superset of jack?
[19:17] <dejan_> someone told me to make the user i think he hacked me
[19:17] <lefty__> I'm trying to get 10.10 netbook iso to install i put on my USB but it isnt booting
[19:17] <ikonia> leg3nd: the uid doesn't matter as long as it's not 0
[19:17] <leg3nd> ikonia, nonsense?
[19:17] <zetyu> apt-get install postfix
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  making a user is not 'getting hacked'  and there was no need to make such a user.
[19:17] <dejan_> guys guys
[19:18] <leg3nd> ikonia, yea so when i compromise it i can compile programs and exploit the linux kernel, pro security bro.
[19:18] <dejan_> someone told me to make it
[19:18] <ikonia> I'll leave you to bumble through his mess,
[19:18] <zetyu> is it correct the package name ?
[19:18] <glitchd> edbian, so in your opinion, is it enough of a performance boost to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.38?
[19:18] <dejan_> and to write bunch of commands
[19:18] <edbian> ikonia, leg3nd I understand.  sorry!
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  and  the command.. userdel has a --force option. :)
[19:18] <edbian> glitchd, No.  I would just wait for Ubuntu 11.04
[19:18] <ikonia> leg3nd: no you can't
[19:18] <erUSUL> tbws: you are using a ppa for nginx? looks like a bad packaged nginx in that repo
[19:18] <dejan_> pls any good guide to making swap and filesydtem i am total beginner to linux
[19:18] <rooks> i want to do audio RTSP stream. preferably fed with pulse-what-you-hear stream, or existing wma/aac stream. did anyone managed to get it up and running, if so - how?
[19:18] <glitchd> edbian, ok thx
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  now lots of 'commands' can be a proboem.. You may just want to reinstall.. since we have no idea what else you may have done.
[19:18] <edbian> glitchd, Just my opinion though :)
[19:18] <leg3nd> ikonia, im a penteser for 6 years, what do i know about web server permissions.
[19:18] <ZenT510> !swap | dejan_
[19:18] <tbws> erUSUL: fair enough, is there a way to remove it?
[19:18] <ikonia> leg3nd: not much by the looks of it
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the default install setup - makes a swap partition.
[19:18] <stittel> dejan_: It is not really the best idea to "type in a bunch of commands" which "somebody told you to enter" without having a clue what these commands really do.
[19:19] <guitar431> @dejan attempts to log on to ubuntu are logged you could check it there if you are hacked
[19:19] <erUSUL> tbws: if you really want to intall you can force it
[19:19] <leg3nd> ikoniac, www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh
[19:19] <mydoghasworms> Can upstart be used to monitor and respawn processes run for a user, e.g. let's say I use Gnome DO and want to ensure that it is respawned if it dies.
[19:19] <dejan_> any sugestio about how big should be swap ?
[19:19] <dejan_> and on other partition?
[19:19] <Goliath> is jack 2 a superset of jack?
[19:19] <leg3nd> ikonia, its G/UID is 33 and not 1000 for a reason.
[19:19] <dejan_> for best performance
[19:19] <glitchd> edbian, fer sure, thx. although, im not sure if ill be willing to leave 10.04
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  depends on your ram and system. and needs.
[19:19] <kb_problem> oCean: I found the setting: /apps/gnome-search-tool/show_additional_options
[19:19] <ikonia> leg3nd: so ?
[19:19] <jack_^> pong
[19:19] <greppy> dejan_: how much ram do you have?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  and if its a laptop/desktop/
[19:19] <ikonia> leg3nd: no it's not it's just a reserved range
[19:19] <stittel> guitar431: If he is really hacked (an idea I find kinda ridiculous to be frank), the...em... "hacker" could just modifiy those logs, too.
[19:19] <intrader> I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help. I am able to boot to previous kernel.
[19:19] <oCean> guitar431: the guy is not 'hacked'
[19:19] <erUSUL> tbws: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx-common_0.8.54-4ppa17~lucid_all.deb
[19:19] <ikonia> I'm out
[19:20] <oCean> kb_problem: ah, ok.
[19:20] <leg3nd> ikonia, it will FUNCTION, but its not SECURE.
[19:20] <dejan_> 1 gb
[19:20] <guitar431> @stittel that might be true :)
[19:20]  * oCean admires ikonia's perseverance
[19:20] <dejan_> but i want best performance
[19:20] <dejan_> i don't need space
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  if you got the hd space.. make 2gb of swap then.
[19:20] <dejan_> on hdd
[19:20] <ikonia> leg3nd: sure sure, whatever,
[19:20] <dejan_> laptop
[19:20] <lefty__> .....................
[19:20] <greppy> dejan_: I would go with either 512 or 1gb of swap, depending on what you plan on doing with it.
[19:20] <dejan_> i have core 2 duo
[19:20] <dejan_> my procesor is ultimate but ram only 1 gb
[19:20] <ZenT510> ikonia: you tried your best, hold your head up high :)
[19:20] <dejan_> always procesor gets ahead of ram
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the 'free' command will tell you how much swap you got and are using right now also.
[19:21] <drc> dejan_: Conventional wisdom is SWAP = 2xRAM
[19:21] <erUSUL> tbws: done?
[19:21] <dejan_> ok but swap on other partition
[19:21] <intrader> Anyone, I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help. I am able to boot to previous kernel.
[19:21] <dejan_> so i make partition and I place only swap on that partition?
[19:21] <dejan_> oh
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap by default IS on a different PARTITION.
[19:21] <dejan_> I have no diea how to d othis :S
[19:21] <stittel> dejan_: With 1 GiB of RAM, I would make 1 or 2 GiB of swap (probably more like 2 GiB). Making more swap than 2 GiB however, will make your system slow if more than 3 GiB of memory is ever really needed.
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  how did you install anyway? check your sudo fdisk -l output. see where you rswap is now.
[19:22] <jack_^> intrader, is the nouveau module still loading?
[19:22] <dejan_> ok
[19:22] <edbian> stittel, I don't think too much swap ever makes the system slow does it?
[19:22] <oCean> dejan_: just start the installation, it will go through all the steps, including filesystem configuration
[19:22] <dejan_> i dont have swap
[19:22] <dejan_> :S
[19:22] <dejan_> i didnt made that
[19:22] <Dattebayo> how can i run .bin and .cue file without burning it on cd?
[19:22] <dejan_> I couldnt
[19:22] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  you spefiically told it not to?
[19:22] <stittel> dejan_: You also don't have to reinstall or repartition to create swap space, because you can just create a swap file on your current filesystem. If the swap file takes continuous space, there will be no performance penality for that (anymore).
[19:22] <dejan_> i need help for swap and filesystem
[19:22] <dejan_> Dr_Willis: i didnt knew how
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:   you dont 'run' them - you can mount them. and run whats on them.
[19:22] <intrader> jack_^, what is nouveau module?
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the isntaller does it auytomatically...
[19:23] <dejan_> stittel: i will reinstall because of security issue
[19:23] <stittel> edbian: Too much swap will make your system slow if that swap is ever really used .
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  try the command --> sudo fdisk -l | grep swap
[19:23] <jack_^> intrader, its the nvidia module that comes with your ubuntu install
[19:23] <dejan_> about the filesystem
[19:23] <dejan_> what is best
[19:23] <dejan_> ?
[19:23] <edbian> stittel, Please explain?  The size of a filesystem does not decrease it's performance.
[19:23] <zetyu> can't install posfix here is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585953/
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> example -> my swap  partition -> /dev/sdb4           48509       48642     1063936   82  Linux swap / Solari
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap IS its own filesystem type.
[19:23] <oCean> dejan_:
[19:23] <stittel> edbian: Instead of having a slow system when you really need that big swap, you would just run out-of-memory with a smaller swap of course.
[19:24] <oCean> dejan_: no need to ask all specific questions here. Follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[19:24] <Dattebayo> can archive mounter mount it?
[19:24] <drc> dejan_: Is this a dualboot (window & Ubuntu) or only a ubuntu machine?
[19:24] <dejan_> ok i will read now
[19:24] <dejan_> only ubuntu
[19:24] <Pumpkin-> Dattebayo: its been a while, but I think you can get something called "cdemu" that will let you mount a virtual device for a .bin/.cue, or you can convert it to an .iso and mount that. I'd have a google for "cdemu" first.
[19:24] <stittel> edbian: I didn't say that: I said that using a swap file instead of a swap partition is not a problem performance-wise.
[19:24] <intrader> jack_^, my previous kernel image in grub still boots Ok. just the current one does not. Boots to text terminal
[19:24] <oCean> dejan_: the guide also explains about filesystems and swap
[19:24] <dejan_> i don't pln to install win ever again
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  the fuseiso and fuseiso9660 tools can i tyhink. or you can convert it to a .iso then mount it otherways.
[19:24] <dejan_> except i will install ome v machines for web development testing
[19:24] <jack_^> intrader, ok. is the nouveau kernel module loaded?
[19:25] <drc> dejan_: I'd read what oCean gave you and ignore any other advise until you're read it
[19:25] <dejan_> ok
[19:25] <dejan_> i will ow
[19:25] <guitar431> windows is a good gaming console though
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> 'reading is always good'
[19:25] <ebbe> My wireless connection keeps dropping. I'm using 10.04 and my Windows machine does not drop the same wireless router. Apparently my 'chipset' is BCM4312 and I've check that I have the proprietary driver for it. What could be going on?
[19:25] <stittel> edbian: Simpilified explanation of why too much swap can slow down the system if it is actually used: The CPU can actually only compute stuff that has been loaded to its registers. Now since registers are small, you have a memory hiearchy beneath it, like CPU cache, RAM or swap space.
[19:25] <zetyu> hello thzete
[19:25] <zetyu> can't install posfix here is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585953/
[19:26] <edbian> stittel, We talked about this earlier today. I think that the swap file is probably slower but the FS and Linux kernel are good enough schedulers that the user percieved latency is probably 0.  Do you agree with this?
[19:26] <intrader> jack_^, I am confused, I am now talking from a windows machine running chatzilla. The ubuntu machine can be rebooted to the prior kernel image
[19:26] <jack_^> intrader, then do that.
[19:26] <stittel> edbian: Why do you think the swap file is slower? Newer kernels should just memorize the sectors of the continous swap file and directly access it without file system calls.
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  from what i recall - a swap file can be slower.. but these days.. swap is not used that much anyway. so its not a big issue. You can add a swap partition later  and use both.
[19:27] <jack_^> intrader, if the nouveau module is being loaded in the new kernel, it will conflict with the nvidia module
[19:27] <asiekierka> question
[19:27] <asiekierka> i'm booting ubuntu from an usb drive on a packard bell laptop
[19:27] <jack_^> intrader, also, check Xorg.1.log to see if it has a problem
[19:27] <asiekierka> but, the loading screen crashed
[19:27] <asiekierka> is there a way to open the console up
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  and whats your video chipset?
[19:27] <edbian> stittel, The amount of swap does not determine how many things the computer is trying to do at once.  So if the swap is bigger the performance will not decrease.  If the user starts running many many programs at once.  Then the system will slow down regardless of swap size.
[19:27] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis: idunno, the computer is 500km away
[19:27] <asiekierka> i only know it's a Packard Bell KMM00
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  and how are you seeing its loading screen?
[19:28] <stittel> edbian: Now the idea is to "get the stuff you want to compute" as fast/efficiently to your CPU registers. For that memory pages get pushed/removed to the registers, CPU cache, main memory or swap space.
[19:28] <intrader> jack_^, I would like to boot by default to an image that works. What is this about the nouveau conflicting; It I boot the top kernel it fails on the nvidia
[19:28] <dejan_> oCean: there isnt guide for swap and filesystem :S
[19:28] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis: in nice graphical quality
[19:28] <dejan_> ah ok i got for swap
[19:28] <asiekierka> now it turned off by itself
[19:28] <jack_^> intrader, then use the older kernel.
[19:28] <dejan_> but for filessytem?
[19:28] <asiekierka> o_o
[19:28] <marsflight> how to make default eth1 instead than eth0?  Thanks
[19:28] <oCean> dejan_: it is all there
[19:28] <edbian> stittel, Swap file is a swap filesystem on top of an (e.g. ext4 filesystem) so you have double filesystem calls which will be a very small decrease in performance which is not noticeable to the user.
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  you have us totally confused now...  You are runnign  some remote-desktop to watch a system install?
[19:28] <intrader> jack_^, how do I tell grub to load the working one by default?
[19:28] <kb_problem> marsflight: why do you want that?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the filesystem for a swap partitin is the 'swap' filesystem.
[19:29] <edbian> stittel, But if swap is bigger that doesn't make it take longer to get things in and out of swap.
[19:29] <jack_^> intrader, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:29] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis
[19:29] <asiekierka> nonono
[19:29] <stittel> edbian: Now if you have a moderate swap to RAM ratio, most stuff needed to travel up the memory hiearchy in the next time will be in the quite fast RAM and stuff unneeded for travelling up the hierachy will be in swap and hopefully when the stuff is needed from swap, it will be copied back to RAM in time.
[19:29] <asiekierka> it works like this
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  'mkswap /dev/sdxx'   its its own special filesystem.
[19:29] <mohamed> hey i format my lap now i want genral orders for ubuntu 10.10
[19:29] <asiekierka> i contact the computer owners via Skype
[19:29] <asiekierka> who pointed their netbook's webcam
[19:29] <asiekierka> to the notebook i'm trying to get Ubuntu running on
[19:29] <asiekierka> as the netbook has no CD/DVD drive
[19:29] <asiekierka> i can't do the sane thing, that is burn it on a disc
[19:29] <ZenT510> !enter | asiekierka
[19:29] <stittel> edbian: Now you have a big swap and stuff that is supposed to travel up the memory hiearchy comes directly from the very slow swap space. In that case your CPU needs to wait a long time for the necessary data to appear in its registers and the system becomes slow.
[19:30] <asiekierka> they're 500-600 kilometres away so i can't get it there either
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  so the question still remains.. what video chipset is the laptop using?
[19:30] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis hmm
[19:30] <quiescens> o.O
[19:30] <marsflight> how to make default eth1 instead than eth0?  Thanks
[19:30] <dejan_> uh there isn't aything about how to make swap partition :(
[19:30] <edbian> stittel, Everything will fit in ram if ram is big enough.  Nothing will change if swap size is changed
[19:30] <stittel> edbian: As I said: A bigger swap is not a problem as long as it is not really used. If you have 2 GiB of swap space or 4 GiB of swap space doesn't make a difference if you only really use 1 GiB of that swap space.
[19:30] <oCean> dejan_: YES
[19:30] <asiekierka> I seriously have no idea
[19:30] <kb_problem> marsflight: type /etc/network/interfaces
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  there is a 'nomodeset' option i have to use for my various nvidia chipset laptops to get them to boto properly
[19:30] <edbian> stittel, Just because swap is big does not mean that the kernel will take things out of ram.
[19:30] <kb_problem> marsflight: type cat /etc/network/interfaces
[19:30] <asiekierka> okay, i'll try that
[19:30] <oCean> dejan_: in the screenshot at step 5 and 6
[19:31] <stittel> edbian: However, if you have 1 GiB of RAM and 4 GiB of swap space and these 4 GiB of swap space are actually used, than it will become slow for the reasons I just explained to you.
[19:31] <dejan_> i am looking this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[19:31] <oCean> dejan_: WHY
[19:31] <guitar431> what is swapspace?
[19:31] <oCean> dejan_: I gave you de URL to install
[19:31] <dejan_> sec
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  during the bootup. theres a little man/logo at the bottom. hit the space key, to get to extra options, then under the F6 options, theres a nomodeset option.
[19:31] <oCean> dejan_: you REALLY don't want to listen, correct?
[19:31] <kb_problem> !swap | guitar431
[19:31] <quiescens> if 4gb if swap wants to be used and you only have 2gb it only faster because the system will be killing processes to make more memory available
[19:31] <guitar431> is swap space like this virtual memory stuff  on windows
[19:31] <stittel> edbian: Say you have 1 GiB of RAM and 4 GiB of swap space and 4.5 GiB of memory demand. What else should the kernel do but put 3.5 GiB of stuff in swap space?
[19:32] <edbian> stittel, The kernel does not put things in swap more often if swap is bigger.  It puts things in swap if there is no more room in ram.  Therefore you can have a swap that's 60Gb. The system won't be any slower.
[19:32] <quiescens> i don't know if that neccesarily means its better
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> guitar431:  done in a better way.. similer idea.
[19:32] <Pretto> hey guys, is there a way to change the gvfsd mount point?
[19:32] <guitar431> okay thanks guys
[19:32] <dejan_> oCean: there is only about to make partitions manually
[19:32] <dejan_> but how indeed to make partition maually
[19:32] <dejan_> i have 0 experience with it
[19:32] <dejan_> :
[19:32] <dejan_> :S
[19:32] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  you could alwasys make a link to the location from somewhere else.. ie: link ~/GVFS to point to .gvfs
[19:32] <ZenT510> !gparted | dejan_
[19:32] <stittel> edbian: You are talking about situations with a low memory demand, which are pretty irrelevant here. If my memory remand is low, indeed 60 GiB of swapspace won't hurt me, but also they won't be of any use.
[19:32] <dejan_> n o no
[19:33] <dejan_> i will install from live cd
[19:33] <dejan_> i will format my hdd
[19:33] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis i'll try it, ugh, gotta modify UNetBootin files
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: do you really want advice?
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  use gparted. or use the installers tools to make the partition.
[19:33] <dejan_> myake 1 partition for the os other for swap
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: or are you messing with us??
[19:33] <dejan_> pls guide me
[19:33] <dejan_> :)
[19:33] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <leg3nd> stittel, i think 60GB is a bit excessive lol
[19:33] <edbian> stittel, I think we just agreed.
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: I send you the step-by-step guide
[19:33] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: the problem is that the mount point is only visible for the user session
[19:33] <dejan_> oCean: no..
[19:33] <stittel> edbian: I am talking about the case where that swap space is actually used, because you don't need a big swap space for cases in which it is not used.
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: you don't want to follow? Then you are on your own
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  edit the syslinux.cfg file. add the 'nomodeset' option, and perhaps remove the 'quiet splash' options also.
[19:33] <dejan_> oCean: read what i wrote
[19:33] <dejan_> oCean: there is only about to make partitions manually
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: no
[19:33] <dejan_> but how indeed to make partition maually
[19:33] <ZenT510> dejan_: you have been pointed to a guide several times
[19:33] <dejan_> i have 0 experience with it
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  if a user is not loggeed in.. that makes s3ence. since its a gnome type service.
[19:34] <dejan_> ..
[19:34] <oCean> dejan_: not true. Insert the install disk, and follow these steps
[19:34] <edbian> stittel, But if swap is big.  Meaning the swap partition is large and mostly empty)  There is no performance difference over when swap space is small (and mostly used)
[19:34] <leg3nd> dejan_, just use gparted, you can install it with 'sudo apt-get -y install gparted'
[19:34] <oCean> dejan_: and you WILL end up with an installed and configured filesystem including swap
[19:34] <stittel> edbian: The question is: What will happen if a high memory demand occurs: Will the system run out of total memory and say "out of memory" or will it actually excute what you are trying to do by using a big, big swap and becoming very, very slow.
[19:34] <dejan_> oCean: but dude, there says make partitions maually
[19:34] <dejan_> there is easy to make partition?
[19:34] <dejan_> oh
[19:34] <dejan_> omg
[19:34] <oCean> dejan_: ok, figure it out yourself, goodbye
[19:34] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: indeed, but if I started it without the gnome session?
[19:34] <dejan_> i know i will fail
[19:34] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <edbian> stittel, read what I wrote right before you said that
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> dejan_: gparted lets you make partitions all the time..
[19:34] <stittel> edbian: Again: Why do you want to talk about having a big swap space in cases where the big swap space is not used, because memory demand is low?
[19:34] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis ok, i'll let you know
[19:34] <dejan_> but then i wouldnt have smuxi to conect here to ask you..
[19:34] <drc> dejan_: Can I PM you?
[19:35] <leg3nd> dejan_, gparted is pretty easy you should be fine, just be patient when its doing its thing.
[19:35] <dejan_> Dr_Willis: but i will reinstall os from live cd
[19:35] <dejan_> yes yes
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  that wouldent make sence..  since its a user specific service.. what are you trying to acomplixh exactly?
[19:35] <dejan_> drc:  yes pls
[19:35] <edbian> stittel, Because I thought your original argument was about a large swap partition decreases performance.
[19:35] <stittel> edbian: To talk about a swap space size making sense or not, we have to consider that the swap space in question IS actually needed because of the memory demand.
[19:35] <intrader> jack_^, I am unable to see how to set grub to default to 2.6.35-27 insted of 2.6.35-28. When I edit grub it only gives me 2.6.35-28 as the only entry.
[19:35] <nt23> hi guys i need some help with awk and append i wrote my code here if someone can help me i am grateful my code is here http://pastebin.com/PMgRw3mP
[19:35] <stittel> edbian: A bad swap-to-RAM ration WILL decrease the performance, if the memory demand makes the system actually use the big swap space.
[19:35] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: I want to use it instead of fstab entry
[19:35] <jack_^> intrader, add it
[19:36] <edbian> stittel, I agree with you.  As more swap is used performance decreases because the system has to move stuff in and out of ram.  The actual size of swap does not affect performance at all.  (unless you run out of swap space and ram)
[19:36] <tbws> erUSUL: thank you so much for your help, it's solved now
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  thats not really a good way to do it.  what are you mointing exactly?
[19:36] <stittel> edbian: A smaller swap space in such a situation will of course not make everything more happy, it will make the system say "out of memory".
[19:36] <erUSUL> tbws: no problem
[19:36] <edbian> stittel, No, the ratio of RAM to swap does not matter.  The size of RAM matters only.
[19:36] <intrader> jack_^, the grub menu already has it as the second entry
[19:36] <tbws> How would I go about instaling php 5.3.6 if it's not in the apt repository.
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> tbws:  ppa or source -
[19:37] <doodlenox> quick question - how do i send the video from laptop to tv in ubuntu - i have the svideo cable plugged in but not sure where to go to change the settings
[19:37] <leg3nd> tbws, google lol, you might be able to find a deb around. if not you gotta do it from source.
[19:37] <leg3nd> tbws, yea ppa might too
[19:37] <jack_^> intrader, if its not working on your newer kernel, then there is somethign wrong with the nvidia module. it either isn't loaded or nouveau is conflicting with it. if you just want to use the old kernel, you'll need to edit the grub configuration. i dont know anything about grub2 so you'll need to go through the documentation i linked and figure ito ut.
[19:37] <stittel> edbian: If the size of RAM matters for the swap space, we are talking about swap-to-RAM ratio. If we are not talking about that, for what do you think "RAM matters only" then?
[19:37] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: just an sftp, but need it to be accessible to other users once it's mounted despite the user who did it
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  depends on yoru chipset. and if the laptop has special fn keys to toggle the tv out options.
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  the sshfs command sounds like what you need to use.
[19:38] <edbian> stittel, 4Gb of RAm and 50Mb of swap will be the same performance as 4Gb of ram and 100Gb of swap.  Different ratios, same performance.
[19:38] <Guest67182> kllkj
[19:38] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: thank you
[19:38] <doodlenox> Dr Willis: its a del inspiron and it used to work perfectly with windows
[19:38] <doodlenox> any ideas
[19:38] <intrader> jack_^, the problem started yesterday morning with an auto update.  The instructions for grub2 are confusing.
[19:38] <doodlenox> is there not a video/display settings area
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  that dosent tell me what video chipset its using...  nvidia has the nvidia-config tools. ati has a similer tool. other chiopsets may just use syystem->admin-> monitors tool
[19:39] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis now i can see what's happening
[19:39] <asiekierka> ata1.00 exception, status: { DRDY ERR }
[19:39] <asiekierka> on the main drive of the notebook
[19:40] <hihihi100> the list of commands written in my terminal is gone, how do I get to see the list again? I mean, when I press the up arrow, no command appears
[19:40] <NCS_One> hi
[19:40] <edbian> stittel, Agreed?
[19:40] <Guest46552> places -> home folder opens kino
[19:40] <Guest46552> help! please.
[19:40] <stittel> edbian: No, not same performance. If in case of 4 GiB RAM and 50 MiB of swap, you have a memory demand of 50 GiB, the system will not decrease performance, it will say "out of memory" and not even try to do the task. In case of 100 GiB swap it will try to do the task, but at a totally terrible performance.
[19:41] <NCS_One> how can I preview the fonts that I have installed? I want to change my xterm font.
[19:41] <syrinx_> stittel: what the heck could you possibly doing that demands 50gb of memory?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> if it gets to the console/login screen.  Yoi could see if you can mount the hd. or check 'dmesg' command to look for other error messages.
[19:41] <nt23> can sameone help me to fix my code http://pastebin.com/PMgRw3mP
[19:41] <stittel> syrinx_: Scientific calculations.
[19:41] <syrinx_> lol
[19:41] <stittel> syrinx_: It's just an example anyways.
[19:41] <extra11> you can't even get 50gigs of mem without getting something custom built
[19:41] <edbian> stittel, You count not doing the task as performant?
[19:42] <stittel> extra11: It is an example to illustrate the meaning of swap-to-RAM ratio.
[19:42] <extra11> or buying lott of cheap computers and building a distributed network
[19:42] <extra11> stittel ahh
[19:42] <stittel> edbian: The rest of the tasks will stay performant. :)
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> Guest46552:  read up at --> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/
[19:42] <edbian> stittel, Alright.  technicality win though...
[19:42] <doodlenox> dr willis: ATI Mobility RADEON 9000 is the name of the chipset on this laptop
[19:42] <doodlenox> any ideas on
[19:42] <doodlenox> that
[19:42] <Guest46552> thank you Dr_Willis
[19:42] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis the problem IS with the HDD
[19:42] <ibrahim> hi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted
[19:42] <asiekierka> maybe
[19:42] <stittel> edbian: The idea is this: Don't make your system try to handle tasks with a memory demand, that it is not efficiently able to handle by having too much swap space.
[19:42] <asiekierka> it has 2 partitions
[19:43] <asiekierka> one is Packard Bell rescue stuff
[19:43] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  thats a start at least. :)  You may need to run the 'addational drivers' tool to install the fglrx drivers to enable tv out. I dont use ati much. so not sure whats needed.
[19:43] <asiekierka> FloodBot3: I don't paste! I actually type that fast
[19:43] <Logan_> !enter | asiekierka
[19:43] <syrinx_> still flooding, keep it on one line
[19:43] <asiekierka> that's better. :P... anyway, Windows 7 doesn't install on the drive
[19:43] <intrader> jack_^, I changed -28 to -27 in what the new grub gave me and it booted. Restart gets me back to bad kernel
[19:43] <doodlenox> dr-willis : thank you.. i have just noticed that the screen is appearing on the tv now all of a sudden.. but its flickering constantly - any ideas
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  check cable. check plug.
[19:44] <asiekierka> it's either silly OEM BIOS protection or HDD issues
[19:44] <ocean1> hi, I'm new to ubuntu. I've face a problem today! is there anybody to help me?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> ive had way to many bad svideo cables/plugs
[19:44] <jumpyjester> hello everyone very new to this thought i would say hello
[19:44] <syrinx_> !ask | ocean1
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  dont get ntsc/pal messed up.
[19:44] <asiekierka> ocean1 gogogo
[19:44] <edbian> stittel, I knew that :)
[19:44] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis found the issue
[19:44] <doodlenox> dr-willis.. how do i change that
[19:44] <asiekierka> after 2348348 tries of getting the ata drive to work
[19:45] <asiekierka> it just dies
[19:45] <jumpyjester> ocean1 what are you trying to do
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  check teh monitors setting tool.  or the ati specific tool if using ati.
[19:45] <Wally> If I install ubuntu 11.04 a3  will I have to unistall it to install the beta or final release? or is it upgradable?
[19:45] <edbian> Wally, upgradable
[19:45] <Wally> thanks
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> Wally:  the abilituy to upgrade is core to apt system features. :)
[19:45] <Jaroslav> hi guys!
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> Wally:  but I tend to do a total clean isntall aftger i beta test...
[19:45] <Wally> I figured so, but wanted to make sure
[19:45] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis it crashed about a minute ago at: [  356.068458] ata1: EH complete
[19:46] <Wally> Ya.  I wanna do a clean install over my 10.04
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  coule be a flakey hard drive. Its hard to tell.
[19:46] <asiekierka> earlier it said something about SATA link and being configured for UDMA/100 and also
[19:46] <sysop3> hi
[19:46] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis that is the most likely reason
[19:46] <ZenT510> !11.04 | Wally
[19:46] <asiekierka> as i can't install Windows 7 on it due to a partition-related error
[19:46] <asiekierka> either
[19:46] <Jaroslav> I'm looking for a driver for Intel GMA 500....
[19:46] <sysop3> how can I turn all my fans on to max?
[19:46] <stillbourne> I'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?
[19:46] <bbigras> What should I close a bug with if it's not happening anymore? invalid?
[19:46] <Dattebayo> how can i mount stuff with fuse?
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  for most machines these days.. i remvoe the windows HD and put in a dedicated linux only HD. :)
[19:46] <sysop3> dont care how loud it is. I just need more cooling
[19:46] <Guest46552> is there some way to replace the line "inode/directory=kino.desktop;" with "inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;" in the file `/.local//share/applications/ mimeapps.list without  without opening the file?
[19:46] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis > laptop
[19:46] <asiekierka> > the user wants windows
[19:46] <asiekierka> > doesn't trust linux
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  use teh proper fuse helper app. ie: 'fuseiso' or 'sshfs' or whatever spefcicl fuse fs you want to use.
[19:47] <leg3nd> sysop3, i think you need a fan controller, or mabey something with chronjob scripts (which i dont know)..
[19:47] <asiekierka> > well... my dad disapproves because he thinks linux is lolololshelllolololconsolelolololnerds
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  so....  this is related to ubuntu how exactly?
[19:47] <Jaroslav> Anybody could help me??
[19:47] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis in that i've been trying to boot Ubuntu to see what's the issue
[19:47] <asiekierka> ._.
[19:47] <sysop3> been looking at fantontrol but cant get it configured
[19:47] <syrinx_> le sigh
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:   there are special 'rescue'  distros that may bave more tools to help you fix things.
[19:47] <sysop3> dotn want it to change the speed just make it run at max
[19:47] <Guest46552> from the command line i'd like to do something like: echo "inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;" > ~/.local//share/applications/ mimeapps.lis but i know that would just add the line to the bottom
[19:47] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis i just need gparted and cfdisk, Ubuntu has both
[19:48] <Dattebayo> i dont quite get it :D
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  'system rescue' and 'gparted' live cd's are dedicated to that sort of task. would boot faster also.
[19:48] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis i'll try SystemRescueCD then, i guess
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  hit the fuse homepage. and read up on how it works.. what do you want to access?
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  suystem rescue cd./. is a
[19:48] <asiekierka> but as it's a more kernel/driver error i don't expect any success
[19:48] <hihihi100> the list of commands written in my terminal is gone, how do I get to see the list again? I mean, when I press the up arrow, no command appears
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  suystem rescue cd./. is a  Must have in your toolbox. :)
[19:48] <ibrahim> hi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted
[19:49] <Dattebayo> there is .cue and bin file i dont want to write it i just want to run it
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  thasts the historuy buffer.. if its gone.. i imagine its gone.. try 'cat .history'
[19:49] <Dattebayo> write means burn
[19:49] <NCS_One> how can I preview the fonts that I have installed? I want to change my xterm font.
[19:49] <doodlenox> dr willis got it working thanky uoiu
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  the fuseiso or fuseiso9660 commands i recall can use fuse. to mount  cue/bin files.
[19:50] <famthegeek2> how to install ubuntu 10.04 on a flash drive so that i can use it as a complete portable os?
[19:50] <stillbourne> I'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> famthegeek2:  you can make a 'live cd' with presistant save.. or do a normal install . to a flash drive.. You decide.
[19:50] <ZenT510> !usb | famthegeek
[19:50] <Pumpkin-> NCS_One: X itself comes with "xfontsel". It is pretty oldschool, but it might do the job.
[19:50] <Dattebayo> it show helps page do i have to use option such as -p or -n?
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  i imagien you need to give it the proepr options yes..
[19:51] <NCS_One> Pumpkin-: forgot about that one, thanks
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  -p makes/deletes the mountpoint as needed.
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> fuseiso -p foo.iso  MOUNTPOINT
[19:52] <hihihi100> dr_willis, it seems it is gone, "history" just shows 14 commands, not the 250 or so that should be there... any suggestion to recover them, if possible?
[19:52] <EmuAlert> When you already have a checkbox selected, how to do tick it on or off?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  not really.
[19:53] <Dattebayo> well it doesnt work with options im goin to install a visual program
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  whats the exact command you are using?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  there are cue/bin -> iso converteres also.
[19:53] <mdkess> How can I show CPU usage in the panel in 11.04? I can't seem to right click on it or anything.
[19:53] <SwedeMike> mdkess: #ubuntu+1 for 11.04.
[19:53] <mdkess> Ah, cool
[19:54] <Dattebayo>  fuseiso -p  ~/Documents/Games/Burn.Zombie.Burn-TiNYiSO/t-bzb/t-bzb.bin  this is
[19:54] <terry> mdkess: top
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> mdkess:  seen this also -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/system-monitor-indicator-puts-cpu-and.html
[19:54] <j5_> hi, is there a apt-get for firefox 4?
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  you gave it no mountpoint. from what i see,.
[19:55] <ebbe> My wireless connection keeps dropping. I'm using 10.04 and my Windows machine does not drop the same wireless router. Apparently my 'chipset' is BCM4312 and I've check that I have the proprietary driver for it. What could be going on?
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  cd to where its at.. so you dont ahve to use such a long path/name also.. may help.
[19:55] <Dattebayo> u mean i have to do it like this? fuse  -p  ~/path to the file  destination?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo: fuseiso -p FILENAME  MOUNTPOINT
[19:56] <ibrahim> hi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted
[19:56] <ahmed_> r
[19:56] <AbTuX> I am using a package for some time for which .deb is not available so i had created one how can i submit it to main repository ?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> Usage: fuseiso [-n] [-p] [-c <iocharset>] [-h] <isofs_image_file> <mount_point> [<FUSE library options>]
[19:57] <Dattebayo> fuse: mountpoint is not empty
[19:57] <Dattebayo> fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option
[19:57] <Dattebayo> Can`t delete mount point: Directory not empty
[19:57] <ahmed_> Is It possible to run Windows Powershell on Ubuntu?
[19:57] <Dattebayo> error wiliams
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  and what mountpoint did you use?
[19:57] <iceroot> ahmed_: maybe with wine
[19:57] <stillbourne> I'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?
[19:57] <Dattebayo> /home/user
[19:57] <laseck> hej polaki
[19:58] <ahmed_> I have wine installed but how can i run powershell?
[19:58] <iceroot> ahmed_: but for what you need a "power" shell?
[19:58] <ZenT510> !pl | laseck
[19:58] <AbTuX> ahmed_, why you want powershell in Ubuntu as you have complete shell? Also with wine it have some issues not fully functional
[19:58] <silentz0r> hello, I damaged the partition table of a drive with just 1 NTFS partition on it. Any ideas how to fix that?
[19:58] <iceroot> ahmed_: copy the powershell.exe from your windows and run it with wine
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  you dont want the thing to mount OVER your home/user dir..  you want itt o show up in a dir IN /home/user
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  ie: /home/Yourusername/PICKANAME
[19:58] <Jasonn> How do i install KLIPS support on ubuntu server?
[19:59] <Dattebayo> tanx williams problem solved with FuriousISO :D
[19:59] <alabd> Good day all, Which package should be installed for installing qt4 ?
[19:59] <ahmed_> i am taking a course about powershell scripting i want to be run them un ubuntu instead virtualox
[19:59] <ZenT510> !server | Jasonn
[19:59] <AbTuX> I am using a package for some time for which .deb is not available so i had created one how can i submit it to main repository ?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> !Qt4
[20:00] <Jasonn> ZenT510: Its not a server problem, i am just saying that it is a problem, and i happen to be using server
[20:00] <BluesKaj> !info Qt4
[20:01] <BluesKaj> !qt
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> AbTuX:  you proberly want to just make a 'ppa' for the package.
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> hey people
[20:01] <BluesKaj> alabd, ^
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> i need some help
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> can anyone make me a deb for powerpc ubuntu?
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> of 0.8.9 gnash
[20:01] <Jasonn> no
[20:02] <Jasonn> Xubuntunoob: We are here to help you, not program your computer for you
[20:02] <ZenT510> !find klips | Jasonn
[20:03] <AbTuX> Dr_Willis, ok , let me try dont know about it.
[20:03] <Jasonn> ZenT510: Ok, I have openswan installed, but it said its missing KLIPS
[20:03] <Xubuntunoob> jasonn: can you tell how to build it ?
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> Ive totally given up on PPC linux - just to out of date.
[20:03] <Jasonn> Xubuntunoob: I have no idea
[20:03] <AbTuX> Dr_Willis, thanks
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntunoob:  is there any gnash at all for ppc?
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> yeah
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> 0.8.8
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> so is 0.8.9
[20:04] <alabd> BluesKaj: but i-humble want to install skype from repository and don't want install it from source
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> compile the patest then, using the build-dep option to pull in all needed dependencies.. perhaps.
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> i have a question
[20:04] <gnugr> http://www.linoob.com/2011/03/ubuntu-11-04-community-default-wallpapers-revealed/
[20:04] <AbTuX> Xubuntunoob, if you want to create a deb for that , just google debian packaging
[20:05] <BluesKaj> !skype | alabd
[20:05] <Xubuntunoob> abtux: thankies ^_^
[20:05] <maxagaz> hi, when I click on my home folder in the men, it opens banshee,why ?
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  you some how assoicated 'folders' with a differnt app.
[20:05] <Xubuntunoob> is it possible if you built skype from source, could you make it for powerpc??
[20:06] <Xubuntunoob> just wondering
[20:06] <suicidolt> how do I get a pdf reader that can edit pdfs for ubuntu?
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  perhaps this site has a fix :  read up at --> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntunoob:  i dont think the skype source is available.
[20:07] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, no, I never did that, it has been done automatically by some buggy application
[20:08] <Xubuntunoob> dr_willis: o
[20:10] <tbruff13> hello
[20:11] <alabd> BluesKaj: thanks
[20:11] <tbruff13> I have no sound out of my laptop speakers even though I turned up alsamixer can someone tell me what is going on please
[20:11] <BluesKaj> alabd, np
[20:11] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, your link didn't help
[20:12] <Xubuntunoob> how do i build gnash from source??
[20:12] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, because I don't have the option "open with" in the properties of a directory
[20:12] <ikonia> Xubuntunoob: you don't need to
[20:12] <metaljaz> tbruff13 do you have sound from headphones
[20:13] <maxagaz> I'll get rid of Banshee, it really sucks!
[20:13] <tbruff13> metaljaz, yes i do
[20:13] <Xubuntunoob> ikonia: i want to get a version that is not in the repos
[20:13] <ikonia> Xubuntunoob: gnash is inthe ubuntu software repository, just install it from the package manager
[20:13] <ikonia> Xubuntunoob: why ?
[20:13] <tbruff13> maxagaz, try VLC media player
[20:14] <gnugr> http://www.techhamlet.com/2011/03/a-night-at-the-hamlet/
[20:14] <maxagaz> tbruff13, vlc is nice to listen to one song, read a video, but not to manage your songs
[20:14] <ikonia> gnugr: any reason your posting that in an ubuntu support channel
[20:14] <nes_> sup
[20:14] <tbruff13> oh sorry I use it to manage my music sorry
[20:14] <germ86> hi
[20:14] <gnugr> is for ubuntu users
[20:15] <tbruff13> can someone tell me why i have no sound from my speakers
[20:15] <ikonia> gnugr: why ? it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:15] <Logan_> gnugr: No spam, please.
[20:15] <metaljaz> check private messages
[20:15] <ZenT510> maxagaz: if you want an alternative to banshee have you tried exaile?
[20:15] <Logan_> !pm | metaljaz
[20:15] <BluesKaj> nes_, supper isn't for another 3 hrs
[20:16] <maxagaz> ZenT510, no, does it manage video rss ?
[20:16] <ZenT510> maxagaz: not sure sorry
[20:16] <vince> Hello community :)
[20:17] <edbian> vince, hello
[20:18] <ZenT510> hi vince, anything you need help with?
[20:18] <maxagaz> ZenT510, I'll try amarok instead
[20:18] <vince> I'd like to list the content of a folder using "Tree". The thing is I'd like to list all the subdirectories without listing the files themselves
[20:18] <vince> I just don't know the command i'm supposed to use
[20:19] <vince> tree -d -L 1
[20:19] <vince> this one gives subfolders as well as files
[20:20] <Jasonn> How do i remove all packages I have installed?
[20:20] <Pumpkin-> vince: I'd use something like "find . -type d"
[20:20] <ZenT510> vince: do you need to use tree? can't you just cd to the directory and use dir
[20:21] <Danielcg25> Jasonn: Format the drive?
[20:21] <Danielcg25> (Ubuntu is technically a program, so =P)
[20:21] <giff> vince, I tried your command and it works like intended, no files are shown
[20:21] <vince> Well, I don't "need" to use tree, I could use that "ls" command, but I don't know how to list subfolders only
[20:21] <Jasonn> Danielcg25: No, only the ones *i* installed
[20:22] <Danielcg25> Hmm
[20:22] <Danielcg25> Apt-get remove <name of program>
[20:22] <vince> giff, Yes I know, no files are shown but I want tree to show subfolders
[20:23] <lament> i'm new to ubuntu, and i keep accidentally pressing some key combination that seemingly locks up the keyboard. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace still works but nothing else seems to. Anyone knows what it is?
[20:23] <giff> giff, it does, for me, just replace 1 with 2 or 3
[20:23] <wildc4rd> is there a good gmail notifier for Ubuntu?
[20:23] <vince> lament, are you using a laptop ?
[20:24] <lament> yes
[20:24] <lament> a macbook actually
[20:24] <vince> wildc4rd, I think gmail notifier does exist for ubuntu
[20:24] <vince> usb mouse?
[20:24] <sibbi3> list
[20:24] <lament> no mouse
[20:24] <giff> vince, it does, for me, just replace 1 with 2 or 3
[20:24] <lament> it's definitely the keyboard, i was just able to reproduces it by banging on function keys
[20:24] <lament> just not sure which ones
[20:25] <lament> not function, i mean modifier
[20:25] <vince> giff, that's exactly what I needed! Thank you very much!
[20:25] <sibbi3> ciao
[20:25] <MarkusT> I setup an LVM over RAID1 system and successfully debootstraped it. I am however unable to install grub2 (which doesn't seem to recognize both LVM and RAID). Did anyone successfully do this?
[20:25] <sibbi3> ma la lista dei server dove si trova
[20:25] <kos_> Hello, is it possible to repair corrupted partition table?
[20:26] <giff> !it | sibbi3
[20:26]  * license2grill is trying to resuscitate an old iMac
[20:26] <root__> How do I modify my script so it only greps the artist field and not the albumartist line?
[20:26] <root__> how to grep "artist" and "album" fields without grepping "albumartist" field
[20:26] <chairmao_> I have a samsung N130 running ubuntu 10.10 - i cannot for the life of me connect to the internet - anyone have any thoughts?
[20:26] <root__> [Amarok] [title: Magical Mystery Tour] [albumartist: The Beatlesartist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]albumartist: The Beatles]
[20:26] <vince> giff!
[20:26] <root__> see it lists twice
[20:27] <giff> vince?
[20:27] <root__> how to fix it?
[20:27] <Ddorda> hey guys, i'm trying to install Hamachi2 on Ubuntu 10.10 without any success
[20:27] <Danielcg25> Hamachi?
[20:27] <vince> do you happen to know how to get a list.txt or something when using the command you gave me ?
[20:27] <Ddorda> when installing i get this error: logmein-hamachi depends on lsb
[20:27] <Ddorda> trying to install lsb give me error.
[20:28] <giff> vince, append this: > list.txt
[20:28] <sibbi3> list.txt
[20:28] <sibbi3> save list
[20:28] <Danielcg25> I hate that software.
[20:28] <sibbi3> help
[20:28] <Danielcg25> Somebody hacked my co
[20:28] <sibbi3> \help
[20:28] <sibbi3> -help
[20:28] <iceroot> Ddorda: post the complete output please to pastebin
[20:28] <FloodBot3> sibbi3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <xerxes> hi pple
[20:28] <giff> Daniel0108, details/ot?
[20:28] <Danielcg25> computer via that software, haven't used it since :(
[20:28] <sibbi3> mi potresti solo dire dove trovare una guida per mirc
[20:29] <giff> !tell sibbi3 about it
[20:29] <Ddorda> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/585965/
[20:29] <sibbi3> ok grazie
[20:29] <jnlsnl_> I have added a node to my panel content, can i tell it to not print any title for the node?
[20:29] <Jasonn> Is there a program to connect to VPNs better than the default one?
[20:29] <iceroot> Ddorda: sudo apt-get install lsb
[20:29] <Daniel0108> giff: I'm Daniel0108, lol :P
[20:30] <vince> giff, Thank you very much, made my day :)
[20:30] <giff> Daniel0108, sorry :(
[20:30] <rajvi> hello allany replacent of Ctrl+ALt+Del
[20:30] <Logan_> !vpn | Jasonn
[20:30] <Ddorda> iceroot:
[20:30] <Ddorda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/585966/
[20:30] <giff> you are welcome vince
[20:30] <BluesKaj> Ddorda, install lsb-core
[20:31] <Ddorda> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/585967/
[20:31] <kos_> Which program should I use to repair corrupted partition table (bad signature on dev/sda ) ?
[20:31] <giff> rajvi,dontzap?
[20:31] <ravidar> hi
[20:31] <Danielcg25> What is the repository for AirCrack?
[20:31] <rajvi> does lsb-core is important for running windows apllications also?
[20:31] <Danielcg25> (aircrack-ptw preferred)
[20:32] <oCean> !info aircrack-ng | Danielcg25
[20:32] <Ddorda> rajvi: no idea.
[20:32] <Danielcg25> Neighbor wants me to test they're network for security
[20:32] <ZenT510> rajvi: lsb is linux standard base, nothing to do with windows apps
[20:32] <chairmao_> best programme for ripping a dvd and storing the file as a .avi? thoughts?
[20:32] <rajvi> i know zen
[20:33] <Danielcg25> It's in the default sources?
[20:33] <Danielcg25> Thanks, oCean
[20:33] <sidd_mak> My Ubuntu 10.10 is suffering from many minor glitches and so i have finally decided to reinstall it ... is there any way to backup the names of all installed packages so that after fresh installation i just have to pass that list to packages in apt-get install command so i get my system with the same package as in the current one....??
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Ddorda, did you do , sudo apt-get -f install
[20:33] <giff> Danielcg25, what about !backtrack
[20:33] <Danielcg25> !info backtrack
[20:34] <giff> !backtrack
[20:34] <Amero> sidd_mak: dpkg --get-selections
[20:34] <oCean> giff what's your point
[20:34] <giff> oCean, he should use that instead, incuding their irc
[20:34] <rajvi> aany replacement for Ctrl+Alt+Del
[20:35] <giff> rajvi, dontzap
[20:35] <Ddorda> BluesKaj: no, since i'm not sure forcing it to install will do any good
[20:35] <Ddorda> brb anyway
[20:35] <sidd_mak> Amero : what does this command do ??
[20:35] <BluesKaj> Ddorda, it worked for me when I installed google earth
[20:36] <jnlsnl_> can one use tinymce in the panel add new content text area?
[20:36] <root__> [Amarok] [title: Blue Jay Way] [artist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]albumartist: The Beatles]
[20:36] <Amero> sidd_mak: it will list out all packages installed on your ubuntu
[20:36] <rajvi> my fullscrenn apps ( Games are crashing some of them ) n I m hard shutting down ,, Can I get a combinations of hot keya
[20:37] <giff> rajvi, don't you see my replies?
[20:37] <giff> rajvi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[20:37] <oCean> giff: what does your reply mean?
[20:37] <oCean> giff: just saying "dontzap" is not very helpful, is it?
[20:37] <Danielcg25> giff: Why when I already have Ubuntu 10.10 installed?
[20:37] <tbruff13> hey metaljaz
[20:38] <sidd_mak> Amero : the thing is that ve can grep this output but the list will be output one package name per line
[20:38] <giff> giff, because it's easier? of course you can use ubuntu too
[20:38] <rajvi> i m sorry giff my english is bad misunderstood
[20:38] <oCean> Danielcg25: I don't see giff's advice making any sense. ubuntu 1010 is just fine
[20:38] <oCean> giff: don't talk nonsense
[20:38] <root__> [Amarok] [title: Your Mother Should Know] [artist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]]
[20:38] <giff> oCean, it's the first google hit...
[20:38] <oCean> giff: don't give advice you don't know about
[20:39] <sidd_mak> Amero : is it possible to install all this packages  in one single command
[20:39] <tbruff13> metaljaz, hey are you here
[20:39] <giff> oCean, what do I not know?
[20:39] <Danielcg25> It is possible, I have Cydia (apt package manager) on my jailbroken iPod touch :)
[20:40] <Danielcg25> And I can make a que of packages to install at once
[20:40] <iceroot> Danielcg25: #apple #ipod
[20:41] <root__> W H A T   I S   T H E   R O O M   F O R   L I N U X   M I N T ?
[20:41] <ZenT510> !mint
[20:41] <oCean> root__: don't do that
[20:41] <edbian> How rude!
[20:41] <sidd_mak> Danielcg25 :  que of packages to install at once ...... HOW??
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> Five inches came and went, as did six.    It was like watching
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> a long, thick balloon slowly fill.  The pressure was growing more and more
[20:41] <Logan_> !ops
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> intense as seven inches neared.  His balls were almost an inch and a half
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> across now as the pressure swelled and suddenly, released.
[20:41] <FloodBot3> FullNudeDeGrippo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <root__> oCean:  S O R R Y   : , - (
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> 	With orgasmic shock, Curt watched himself spray an arc of cum
[20:42] <vince> Bye everybody
[20:43] <pizzas> later vince
[20:43] <searayman> anyoen know a channel i can get java programing help?
[20:43] <Logan_> searayman: ##java
[20:43] <kriume> how do i change username ????
[20:44] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?
[20:44] <Logan_> kriume: on Ubuntu?
[20:44] <tbruff13> can anyone tell my why alsamixer puts my speaker setting a zero everytime i boot up ubuntu
[20:44] <kriume> yes Logan_
[20:44] <tbruff13>
[20:44] <tbruff13> opps
[20:44] <mongy> tbruff13,  odd.  change it again and sudo alsactl store
[20:45] <tbruff13> well i already changed it when i started the computer like i always do
[20:45] <metaljaz> tbruff i had something for you to try
[20:45] <kriume> how do i change username ????
[20:45] <tbruff13> mongy, do i need to run that command now or reboot first
[20:45] <Logan_> !repeat | kriume
[20:45] <mongy> tbruff13, after you changed it.  it 'should' store it
[20:46] <Danielcg25> sidd_mak: I didn't say I knew how, I said it was possible ;)
[20:46] <mongy> tbruff13, then when you reboot it should use the stored values
[20:46] <metaljaz> tbruff what sound card is that?
[20:46] <terry> kriume: Log out and back in again as new user.
[20:47] <terry> krups: Do you have another user on your system yet? (Have you created one?
[20:47] <tbruff13> thanks mongy
[20:47] <giff> kriume, usermod -l newname oldname
[20:47] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?
[20:48] <ayecee> del_diablo: how do you mean?
[20:48] <terry> kriume: Do you have another user on your system yet? (Have you created one?
[20:48] <incorrect> is there anyway to run unity without the silly side bar thingy
[20:48] <incorrect> i like the screen space i get from the window manager
[20:48] <Xubuntunoob> how do i format a usb drive on xubuntu?
[20:48] <xangua> incorrect: then it would not be unity :P
[20:48] <Logan_> !xubuntu | Xubuntunoob
[20:48] <del_diablo> ayecee: When scrolling in a browser using mousewheel the browser moves roughly 3 lines per scroll. I want to change the value for that.
[20:48] <fermulator> Anyone have any idea how "df" can show a filesystem (root) 100% used, while "du" shows only 50% used?  http://pastebin.com/e4amiVcU
[20:49] <incorrect> xangua, well i like the window manager
[20:49] <Xubuntunoob> im sorry i tried the xubuntu channel but no one answered
[20:49] <Logan_> Xubuntunoob: then please be patient
[20:49] <terry> Xubuntunoob: What filesystem do you want to use?  fat32?
[20:49] <incorrect> but the side bar is big and pointless
[20:49] <Logan_> Xubuntunoob: we do not support derivatives of Ubuntu in this channel
[20:49] <incorrect> id much rather use docky or something
[20:49] <Xubuntunoob> logan_: ok
[20:49] <mongy> incorrect, its resizable in natty.  but thats #ubuntu+1
[20:50] <Xubuntunoob> i want to format it in fat
[20:50] <giff> incorrect, it's a good idea for widescreen displays compared to the two panels of vanilla gnome, right now there is no way to disable it with any sort of option
[20:50] <drc> Xubuntunoob: Not sure now, but back when I ran XCFE I always installed the GNOME disk utility (in repos)...worked like a charm
[20:50] <del_diablo> Xubuntunoob: Gparted?
[20:50] <ayecee> del_diablo: nothing comes to mind, sorry
[20:50] <del_diablo> ayecee: K
[20:50] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?
[20:50] <terry> Xubuntunoob: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1  #Where /dev/sdb1 is the usb device.  Make sure which one it is first.
[20:51] <incorrect> mongy, yes but my netbook is not wide enough and the sidebar is taking up too much space
[20:51] <Xubuntunoob> i tried gparted but there is waaayyy to many options
[20:51] <incorrect> but i love the window manager
[20:51] <terry> Xubuntunoob: sudo fdisk -l    #Will list all driver partitions.
[20:51] <mongy> incorrect, you can select regular gnome at the login screen
[20:51] <nerdshell> del_diablo: clarify more please
[20:51] <ayecee> del_diablo: it would be better to mention the scroll wheel in the question.
[20:51] <del_diablo> Xubuntunoob: Sorry to say so, but there is not enough options in gparted. Take a good look at the GUI, then do what you want to do
[20:51] <terry> Xubuntunoob:  gparted is for partitioning.
[20:51] <mongy> incorrect, this is 10.10 netbook right?
[20:51] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[20:51] <incorrect> mongy, gnome takes up too much space at the top
[20:51] <marcuy> when I press "Places->Home" on the main Ubuntu menu, then Audacious opens instead of Nautilus.. any ideas?
[20:51] <Xubuntunoob> terry: oh
[20:51] <mongy> incorrect, so remove a panel
[20:52] <incorrect> mongy, yes on a netbook
[20:52] <mongy> incorrect, I use 10.10 regular on a dell mini9
[20:52] <incorrect> mongy, but the window manager doesn't become part of the top
[20:52] <drc> Xubuntunoob: Or you use startup disk creator, and bail out after "erase disk" (i.e NOT install anything)
[20:52] <Xubuntunoob> drc: ok '
[20:52] <mongy> incorrect, unity in natty is lot better, and usable on a 9" screen
[20:52] <Xubuntunoob> drc: i will try that
[20:53] <incorrect> mongy, maybe there is a backport of it?
[20:53] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me how to customize the Firefox button in Ubuntu?
[20:53] <mongy> incorrect, for now, choose classic desktop at the login screen, remove a panel and add your dock
[20:53] <nerdshell> del_diablo: check up here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[20:53] <rajvi> is  it ok to run Ubuntu 10.10 ona netbook
[20:53] <mongy> incorrect, not sure, Im just testing the alpha...
[20:53] <mongy> rajvi, yes
[20:53] <incorrect> mongy, that is what i had, but not so great
[20:53] <terry> rajvi: Well, sure.  Why not?
[20:53] <incorrect> isn't it 11.04 soon?
[20:54] <giff> fr00g, which button?
[20:54] <nerdshell> rajvi:  Of course, why not?
[20:54] <mongy> incorrect, yes.  natty
[20:54] <fermulator> fr00g: $HOME/.local/share/applications might be relevant for you
[20:54] <incorrect> can't be that unstable
[20:54] <terry> rajvi: Oh, you mean as opposed to remix?
[20:54] <intrader> jack_^,I get error in using the startupmanager 'Glib-GIO_Error: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.1/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init:assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error = NULL)
[20:54] <mongy> incorrect, for me its fine.
[20:54] <jack_^> intrader, in xorg.1.log?
[20:54] <Xubuntunoob> drc:    "package dependencies could not be resolved
[20:54] <incorrect> my netbook is not important to me, i can experiment
[20:54] <mongy> incorrect, but that coiuld change within a day...   #ubuntu+1 for more natty discussion
[20:54] <fr00g> giff, the menu button
[20:54] <Xubuntunoob> drc: usb-creator-gtk
[20:55] <fr00g> fermulator, I meant the menu button within the browser
[20:55] <del_diablo> nerdshell: Could you point me to the GUI instead?
[20:55] <rajvi> well i m a average newbie .. i install netbook book edition first didnot apealed me :)
[20:55] <intrader> jack_^, the last lines from executing startupmanager
[20:55] <drc> Xubuntunoob: Did you use the package manager?
[20:55] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[20:55] <Xubuntunoob> drc: used ubuntu software center, should i try synaptic?
[20:56] <terry> rajvi: Yea, well, it's ok to install the standard ubuntu on it.  In fact, it would be my preference.
[20:56] <terry> rajvi: ... but that's just me...
[20:56] <oCean> del_diablo: for firefox specific there is in about:config the mousewheel.withnokey.numlines parameter
[20:56] <rajvi> using ubuntu 10.10 ( Anyone using Quicken 2011 via WINE)
[20:56] <terry> Xubuntunoob: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[20:56] <rajvi> terry i know how to do that
[20:56] <fermulator> This is crazy; can anyone comment how/why this can happen? "sudo du -x -h --max-depth=0 /" -> says that 4.1G is used.  Yet, "sudo df -h /" --> says that 9.2G/9.3G is used... (/dev/sdm1             9.3G  9.2G     0 100% /)
[20:56] <giff> fr00g, system>preferences>mainmenu>internet>select firefox>properties>click on icon>select a different png
[20:56] <nerdshell> ravji : the netbook edition is just more economic, but standard release would be fine ;)
[20:56] <terry> rajvi: Very well.
[20:57] <del_diablo> oCean: Do not use firefox myself :( Using Opera(reallying on OS scroll options).
[20:57] <Xubuntunoob> terry: i need to format my usb drive]
[20:57] <fr00g> giff, no, I mean the menu button IN the browser
[20:57] <kriume> i am inside a folder wich has a makefile in it but when i type "make" in terminal i get ""make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."" why?
[20:57] <oCean> del_diablo: I don't think such is a "global" setting. But, not entirely sure
[20:57] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Just open a GUI terminal and use  mkfs.vfat
[20:57] <giff> fr00g, can you post a screenshot?
[20:57] <itaylor57> rajvi: gnucash is good
[20:57] <rajvi> terry is lsb-core is needed to run wine apllications more stably
[20:57] <Xubuntunoob> terry: ok
[20:57] <fermulator> fr00g: please take a screenshot, edit the photo, and circle/highlight the button you're referring to
[20:57] <rajvi> i work for quicken:)
[20:58] <del_diablo> oCean: Then where do Opera get its 3 line scroll from? O.o
[20:58] <terry> Xubuntunoob:  THey usually come formatted.  Do you just need to erase what's on it?  or...?
[20:58] <oCean> del_diablo: check opera's about:config ?
[20:58] <del_diablo> oCean: Yes.
[20:58] <terry> Xubuntunoob: At any rate mkfs.vfat will erase all data on it so...
[20:58] <glitchd> any clue why some of my hardware drivers wont install with linux kernel 2.6.38-1-generic??
[20:58] <del_diablo> oCean: Also known as "opera:config"
[21:00] <oCean> del_diablo: see if there is a parameter on the scrolling, is all I'm saying
[21:00] <terry> Xubuntunoob: I would  first do  sudo fdisk -l
[21:00] <giff> glitchd, because they only work with older kernels?
[21:00] <terry> Xubuntunoob: And look at what is there.
[21:00] <fermulator> fr00g: use "imageshack" to upload screenshot
[21:00] <rajvi> what u all have to say abou Firefox 4
[21:00] <fr00g> http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9364/screenshot001mt.png
[21:00] <terry> rajvi: I'm not a big fan yet.
[21:00] <oCean> rajvi: this is support channel. Discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <rajvi> i m in a fix chrome or firefox
[21:00] <del_diablo> oCean: I did.
[21:00] <nerdshell> rajvi: Great
[21:00] <giff> fr00g, that's FF4... install a different theme
[21:01] <famthegeek> ubuntu installed on flash drive!!!
[21:01] <Xubuntunoob> terry: all i see is the hard drive sectors
[21:01] <kriume> i am inside a folder wich has a makefile in it but when i type "make" in terminal i get ""make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."" why?
[21:01] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:01] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Yes, that is what you want to see - so that you can be sure you format the right partition.
[21:01] <giff> fr00g, you could also disable it and go back to the menubar layout
[21:01] <oCean> kriume: usually the compiling process starts out with a ./configure command.
[21:01] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:02] <terry> Xubuntunoob: What size is your flash drive?
[21:02] <giff> kriume, you first need to ./configure
[21:02] <kriume> oCean: what do u mean? i did ./configure first, and make after, but doesnt work
[21:02] <glitchd> giff, i jus updated to the kernel that i was asking about earlier
[21:02] <oCean> kriume: when installing software that is not from the repositories, you should ask the maintainers of that software for support
[21:03] <nerdshell> how do I make a script that requires high privileges autorun on startup ?
[21:03] <Xubuntunoob> terry: 2gb
[21:03] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:03] <oCean> !compiling > kriume
[21:03] <glitchd> giff, pm me please
[21:03] <giff> glitchd, yeah I remember, that's the problem with not sticking with the defaults :P what hardware is it?
[21:03] <Xubuntunoob> terry: ok
[21:03] <rajvi> can i get a app to make a copy i mean a installation to my installed Ubuntu 10.10
[21:03] <nerdshell> how do I make a script that requires high privileges autorun on startup ?
[21:03] <terry> Xubuntunoob: ... and paste resulting URL here.
[21:03] <Xubuntunoob> k
[21:03] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: add it to /etc/rc.local
[21:04] <JoFo> Hello. With Thunderbird, I've pressed the Delete key by mistake and I can't find the message back. Is that hopeless?
[21:04] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: I read that this was a verry bad idea, no?
[21:04] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: how is that bad?
[21:04] <bastidrazor> !boot
[21:04] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:04] <terry> nerdshell: You place it in /etc/init.d/  or just add the lines to /etc/rc.local if you like (little easier).
[21:04] <kriume> i am trying to isntall conky
[21:04] <kriume> oCean
[21:04] <tarvid> how do I get the properties of a audio CD?
[21:04] <ayecee> del_diablo: it seems to be specific to the application.
[21:05] <oCean> !info conky | kriume that is in the repositories
[21:05] <terry> tarvid: sudo fdisk -l
[21:05] <Xubuntunoob> terry: http://pastebin.com/7YSJjeq3
[21:05] <del_diablo> ayecee: That is silly. Why can't I get applications to just work?
[21:05] <nerdshell> terry: it's not dangerous to edit the init.d file ?
[21:06] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: read the factoid ubottu just put out.
[21:06] <ayecee> del_diablo: not all applications use the same method of interpreting scrolling events, apparently.
[21:06] <terry> Xubuntunoob: You must not have it plugged in right now. (The flash drive.)
[21:06] <nerdshell> bastidrazor:  factoid ubottu, what's that ?
[21:06] <bastidrazor> !boot | nerdshell
[21:07] <Pumpkin-> nerdshell: I wouldn't recommend editing anything in /etc/init.d/ (makes updates complicated), but creating new stuff, ideally based from /etc/init.d/skeleton is fine.
[21:07] <terry> nerdshell: It is a directory.  The startup scripts are kept there, (or symlinked there).
[21:07] <rajvi> any rooms to helpnewbies
[21:07] <Maryam> Hola gente linda
[21:07] <rajvi> :(
[21:08] <Xubuntunoob> terry: plugged it in
[21:08] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:08] <nerdshell> Pumpkin-: how to use the init.d skeleton to create my own stuff ?
[21:08] <glitchd> can anyone help me with these errors??.....http://pastie.org/1719491
[21:08] <Xubuntunoob> terry: and it still gives me the same message
[21:08] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Ok, now do it again.  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:08] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Then there must be something wrong with it.
[21:09] <guntbert> JoFo: my thunderbird has Edit/undo delete message ( <ctrl> z)
[21:09] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: that is a template to use for creating startup scripts.
[21:09] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: any useful Link ?
[21:09] <Nikofigo> [23:08] <Nikofigo> i imported 2 audio files in audacity (same window)
[21:09] <Nikofigo> [23:08] <Nikofigo> and i want to export them in a single mp3. how do i do that? (so mix them actually)
[21:10] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: look at the file.
[21:10] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: the file, wiche file ?
[21:10] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:10] <glitchd> Nikofigo, do u want one to play right after the first?
[21:10] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: or better yet.. add your script to /etc/rc.local   and be done with it. that is the proper place for startup scripts you create.
[21:11] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: okay, thanks a lot
[21:11] <Pumpkin-> nerdshell: if its JUST startup stuff, stick it in /etc/rc.local and be done with it. If its stuff that needs to startup and shutdown, then you need to worry about skeleton and proper process.
[21:11] <rajvi> any apps to create an image of my installed ubuntu
[21:11] <Xubuntunoob> terry: well when  i plug it in xubuntu Recognizes it
[21:11] <ayecee> del_diablo: it seems to be specific to the application.
[21:11] <Xubuntunoob> terry: but terminal doesnt
[21:11] <del_diablo> ayecee: And that is not a answer not a "good point on where to look for a solution".
[21:11] <del_diablo> *nor a
[21:12] <redboat> Does someon know where the iRC channel is for leo laportes TwitTV
[21:12] <ayecee> del_diablo: the answer is that there is no one place to set the number of lines scrolled for all applications.
 JoFo: my thunderbird has Edit/undo delete message ( <ctrl> z) ← But that seems limited to a fe steps, and I've made several (too many) operations since then.
[21:12] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #And past new URL here again.
[21:12] <Xubuntunoob> ok
[21:12] <ayecee> del_diablo: however, if you would like to change the setting for a specific application, it would be helpful to name the application.
[21:13] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell redboat about alis
[21:13] <drc> redboat: I told you earlier  http://irc.twit.tv/
[21:13] <del_diablo> ayecee: I already did. Opera. I also looked for it, it uses some system defaults. Where is those defaults?
[21:13] <JoFo> Where does a message go when I press Shift + Del?
[21:13] <ayecee> del_diablo: sorry, I missed that. it wasn't in your question.
[21:13] <redboat> thanks I am using xchat wheres the pm
[21:13] <tbruff13_> metaljaz, hello
[21:13] <Xubuntunoob> http://pastebin.com/Qv8CQeXs
[21:13] <tbruff13_> the alsamixer still keeps speaker on zero
[21:13] <Xubuntunoob> terry:http://pastebin.com/Qv8CQeXs
[21:13] <del_diablo> ayecee: Also gedit too
[21:14] <guntbert> JoFo: then I don't know, sorry
[21:14] <drc> redboat: or irc.twit.tv
[21:14] <ayecee> del_diablo: opera gets it from a system default? do you remember where you saw that?
[21:14] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Hummm.  You are right.  Your flash drive is not being recognized.  You'll not be able to format it.  BTW, what version have you installed?  10.10?  or...?
[21:15] <guntbert> JoFo: have you seen http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/  ?
[21:15] <Xubuntunoob> terry: maverick meerkat 10.10
[21:15] <del_diablo> ayecee: I do not, because I have not seen it. But on windows it fetches system defaults, and on Linux there is no settings for scrolling present anywhere, in both Opera:config and manually setting up mouse shortcuts....................
[21:16] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Well, sorry we can't help you.  There is either something wrong with your system or something wrong with  your flash drive.  (I think there is something wrong with your flash drive.)
[21:16] <root__> terry: where can I get this pastebin cli app?
[21:17] <photon> what's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?
[21:17] <terry> root__: apt-get will install it for you.
[21:17] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:17] <terry> root__: apt-get install pastebinit
[21:17] <root__> terry: what's it called?
[21:17] <root__> ok, my distro doesn't have that app
[21:17] <terry> root__: What are you on?
[21:18] <kriume> i juust installed, how do i get the conky on desktop??
[21:18] <Logan_> terry: he is on Mint
[21:18] <Logan_> !mint | root__
[21:18] <terry> root__: You should install ubuntu.  Sorry ....
[21:18] <giff> redboat, /msg nickname message
[21:19] <terry> Announcement:  Ubuntu supported here    [only]
[21:19] <del_diablo> root__: Mint rolling edition?
[21:19] <Logan_> terry: we know
[21:20] <tbruff13_>  hey why does alsamixer start my speaker on 0 when i boot
[21:20] <redboat> Dick I made my own gadget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23363133/SkinnyLatteVer2_Complete.JPG
[21:20] <root__> del_diablo: I'm on gentoo
[21:20] <ayecee> del_diablo: you could perhaps add the applications you're asking about to your question.
[21:20] <terry> root__:  Linux mint support is on irc server irc.spotchat.org channel #linuxmint
[21:20] <newlin> bonjour
[21:20] <tbruff13_> mongy, your thing did nothing
[21:20] <Logan_> !fr | newlin
[21:20] <root__> terry: I'm on gentoo
[21:20] <root__> I found wgetpaste
[21:20] <root__> all is good
[21:20] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for OPERA when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:20] <terry> root__: /join #gentoo
[21:21] <root__> terry: o rry?
[21:21] <rajvi> i need a standlone download manger any suggestions ??
[21:21] <Boosted-> somebody good with grub?  got a slight problem...well more of a big one >_<
[21:21] <Logan_> del_diablo: irc.opera.com #opera
[21:21] <Logan_> del_diablo: for Opera support
[21:21] <root__> rajvi: jdownloader if your system can handle it
[21:21] <terry> rajvi: You might try wget
[21:21] <del_diablo> Logan_: Yes.......... now tell me where system default is set
[21:22] <root__> !grub > Boosted-
[21:22] <metaljaz> tbruff did you get working?
[21:22] <Logan_> del_diablo: or ##opera on Freenode
[21:22] <Logan_> del_diablo: please join one of those channels for more specific Opera support
[21:22] <rajvi> root_:hello mint guy please get out 4m here
[21:22] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:22] <xangua> rajvi: no need to be hostile
[21:22] <terry> rajvi: I use wget for large downloads, like ISOs etc.
[21:22] <kriume> i juust installed conky, how do i get the conky on desktop??
[21:22] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:22] <drc> del_diablo: AFAIK there is NOT one...write on that actually works and we'll all be happy (if only because it shuts you up)
[21:23] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for kate when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:23] <drc> del_diablo: AFAIK there is NOT one...write on that actually works and we'll all be happy (if only because it shuts you up)
[21:23] <xangua> kriume: there are lot of ways, i use 'conky colors'
[21:23] <rajvi> thanks dudes any front end 4 wget i heard its command base
[21:24] <terry> rajvi: No, but you can use it in a GUI terminal. It is very easy.
[21:24] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for kate when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:24] <rajvi> ya i know how to do that terry
[21:24] <tbruff13_> why is my alsamixer speaker all the way down when i start ubuntu
[21:24] <kriume> xangua: i just typed that and a black thing apeared on the desktop, i cant move it around or nothing??
[21:24] <mongy> tbruff13_, sorry, Im at a loss then.
[21:24] <bastidrazor> !patience | del_diablo
[21:25] <terry> rajvi: Just right-click a download link and choose "Copy link location", go to terminal and type:  wget  [and hit middle mouse button]
[21:25] <tbruff13_> k
[21:25] <drc> !repeat | del_diablo
[21:25] <nerdshell> !boot
[21:25] <xangua> kriume: google for conky colors to know how to use it, is not in repositories
[21:25] <terry> rajvi: See:  man wget   #For more details.  It is very powerful.
[21:25] <del_diablo> tbruff13_: Some bug about incorrect rights setting somewhere........ You could most likely find the "error log" if you knew where to look(no idea myself)
[21:25] <giff> rajvi, if you use firefox: http://domnit.org/blog/2007/09/wget.html
[21:26] <rajvi> Terry: On 10.10 via Wubia wanna make a customised copy of 10.10 with all my packages onit , u understand a installable disk with allmy packages
[21:26] <rajvi> thaks giff
[21:27] <Boosted-> root__ not a help for me...since im missing files
[21:27] <terry> rajvi: Oh ok.  Sorry.
[21:28] <photon> what's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?
[21:29] <Boosted-> missing at least menu.lst...or i dont know where to search or find it
[21:29] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:29] <rajvi> terry : its not possible , can i make a script so i don't have to installed each one individually??
[21:29] <vanillaslice> does anyonek now how i can install VirstualMin via apt-get ?
[21:30] <bastidrazor> !clone | rajvi
[21:30] <terry> rajvi: If you just have a list you can just do:  sudo apt-get pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 pkg4 etc. etc. etc.
[21:30] <agliodbs> hey, I have an ubuntu netbook with a 120GB HDD.  I want to transfer my whole installation to a 60GB SSD.  There is only around 30GB of data on the HDD.  what's the easiest way to do this?
[21:31] <del_diablo> agliodbs: cp -r / *hd location*, then run something related to upadting grub
[21:32] <agliodbs> del_diablo: that won't copy the boot sector though.  I want the SSD to be bootable ... I'm going  to take the HDD out of the netbook and swap them
[21:33] <nyuszika7h> Hello! Once I've installed "kubuntu-desktop" on Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), and then later when I wanted to remove it, it also removed the entire GNOME environment! How is this possible?
[21:33] <kellnola_> agliodbs, rsync, and then you will need to install grub2 on the new disk
[21:33] <agliodbs> kellnola_: and gparted to format the SSD, presumably?
[21:34] <kellnola_> whatever tool you like
[21:34] <del_diablo> agliodbs: grub 1 or grub 2? I would recommend getting a rescue medium(live cd or live usb), and then running the cp command ,the plugin the HD correctly, then running live medium and following thisd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[21:34] <bastidrazor> del_diablo: that won't work.. more than just grub will be broken. fstab for example
[21:34] <blurymind> hi folks
[21:34] <kellnola_> del_diablo, yes on the live cd, but why cp? rsync is much better
[21:35] <blurymind> kmix seems to be acting strangely
[21:35] <blurymind> maverick here
[21:35] <del_diablo> kellnola_: Because rsync requires setup rsync or something? :P
[21:35] <agliodbs> del_diablo: rescue drive is a bit of a problem. no cd-rom, and installing rescuedisk to thumbdrives is kind of a PITA
[21:35] <del_diablo> bastidrazor: Just fstab. Fstab is easy to fix
[21:35] <blurymind> it eats up cpu and lags a lot when I scroll on it or click it
[21:35] <kellnola_> del_diablo, ? rsync -av /source /target <- that's all
[21:35] <agliodbs> I'm not that concerned about how to copy the files.  just how to make the SSD bootable
[21:36] <del_diablo> agliodbs: http://www.kvasir.no/alle?ezpz_hint_dummy_input=Skriv+inn+s%C3%B8keord&q=unetbootin ?
[21:36] <del_diablo> kellnola_: K
[21:36] <blurymind> deleting settings seems to fix it only temporarily
[21:36] <kellnola_> agliodbs, it would be much easier to do a clean install of ubuntu on the new disk then copy your data back over
[21:36] <old_keyboard> hello
[21:36] <old_keyboard> !botsnack
[21:36] <del_diablo> agliodbs: Quick question are the SSD located in your computer already?
[21:37] <agliodbs> kellnola_: except for a clean, install, I'd need to have a bootable thumbdrive
[21:37] <kellnola_> agliodbs, you can get a list of all the package selections you have with "dpkg --get-selections" , then merge that with the new installation
[21:37] <agliodbs> del_diablo: it's in an external USB case right now
[21:37] <gartral> Hello all, I have a CR-48 laptop and i installed ubuntu onto it, but it lacks a bunch of keys and i was hoping that someone could tell me how to make shortcut aliases for pgup, pgdn, end, home and caps lock
[21:38] <agliodbs> the issue with unetbootin is that it's *very* fussy about which USB keys it will accept
[21:38] <del_diablo> agliodbs: Hmmmm, reinstall would be cleaner. Do you know how to setup fstab and grub yourself? If you do, then just copying and fixing would be easier. But back to a question: What would you do after copying over to the SSD?
[21:38] <agliodbs> last time I ddid this I had to go through like 8 thumbdirves to find one whcih would work
[21:39] <del_diablo> agliodbs: unetbootin from windows or linux btw?
[21:39] <kellnola_> agliodbs, no dvd/cdrom drive?
[21:39] <agliodbs> del_diablo: after copying to the SSD, remove the HDD from the netbook, and then install the SSD
[21:39] <agliodbs> kellnola_: netbook
[21:39] <agliodbs> del_diablo: from linux.  I don't own a windows machine
[21:39] <kellnola_> hmm, I've never had issues with bootable thumb drives ...
[21:40] <agliodbs> kellnola_: if you go to the wiki, it warns you that only a minority of thumbdrives actually work and are bootable
[21:40] <agliodbs> which I found to be the case
[21:40] <Hodr> My Grub is broken, ubuntu server boots into shell, is there a noob friendly way to fix Grub?
[21:40] <kellnola_> guess I'm just lucky then
[21:40] <agliodbs> and I've lost the one I used last time ...
[21:41] <old_keyboard> Hodr: terminal is friendly you just need to read a bit
[21:41] <agliodbs> so if I can avoid the thumbdrive route, I'd like to
[21:41] <old_keyboard> Hodr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT
[21:41] <Hodr> thx
[21:41] <old_keyboard> is that what you want right?
[21:41] <agliodbs> I'd just do a DD copy, except that the HDD is bigger than the SSD
[21:41] <old_keyboard> just follow the instructions commands
[21:41] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:41] <agliodbs> so I have to resize at the same time
[21:42] <jwtiyar> i  cant connect to mu usb huawei modem , i have 10.4 LTS but its working in 10.10
[21:42] <Hodr> old_keyboard - will that work with server 10.10?
[21:43] <decksmasher> hi guys
[21:43] <agliodbs> anyway, I'm still trying to think of a way to do thsi which isn't a royal PITA, and I can't come up with one
[21:43] <Hodr> old_keyboard since server doesn't have live CD
[21:43] <old_keyboard> Hodr: is it 32 oe 64bit?
[21:43] <terry> del_diablo: Just roll the wheel until you get what you want.
[21:43] <Hodr> old_keyboard 32b
[21:43] <del_diablo> terry: What if I want 12 lines instead of 3? O.o
[21:43] <jwtiyar> i  cant connect to mu usb huawei modem , i have 10.4 LTS but its working in 10.10
[21:43] <Logan_> terry: I think that he is asking about the number of lines scrolled per notch
[21:43] <Logan_> !repeat | jwtiyar
[21:44] <old_keyboard> Hodr: yeah I dont if Ubuntu Server has livecd :P
[21:44] <old_keyboard> know
[21:44] <nyuszika7h> ubottu: +1 for AskUbuntu
[21:44] <jnlsnl_> when i add an existing node to my panel, can i choose to exclude the title ?
[21:45] <jnlsnl_> err mt
[21:45] <kriume> "Extract the downloaded archive (from step 3), use a terminal to navigate to the folder where you extracted it and run: make" <------- i did this but i get this after i write make: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.""   why????
[21:46] <terry> del_diablo: I do not think gnome has a provision for that type of customization at this time.
[21:46] <ikonia> kriume: you need to be in the source dir
[21:46] <ikonia> kriume: what are you trying to build?
[21:46] <old_keyboard> Is there a way to show full path (/home/xxx) in "Select custom icon" window?
[21:46] <old_keyboard> like in Nautilus
[21:47] <kriume> ikonia: whats source dir? i try to install conky colors from this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html
[21:47] <suicidolt> ok, I'm trying to set up a ubuntu usb so I can install it on my netbook and it's not working...unetboot isn't booting from the usb.  Is there a better alternative?
[21:47] <ikonia> kriume: is that package not in the repo ?
[21:48] <terry> del_diablo: PageDown or PageUp  is pretty handy, or just holding down the Down or Up arrows works nicely for faster scrolling.
[21:48] <em> what causes an Ubuntu kernel panic?
[21:48] <kriume> ikonia: what do u mean? inside conky folder where i navigated to after try to run "make" there is a makefile , but terminal says there is not
[21:48] <kellnola_> agliodbs, you will need some sort of live cd / usb drive type environment to boot into after you install the SSD.
[21:48] <kellnola_> agliodbs, unless you do everything perfectly
[21:48] <giff> em, bad hardware, driver, kernel bug and so on
[21:48] <kellnola_> em, bad hardware, bad software
[21:49] <del_diablo> terry: What is I want a spesific behavior that is useful? pg up and down can be 60-70 lines, to much, no flexibility at all....
[21:49] <giff> kriume, do you have build essentials installed?
[21:49] <agliodbs> kellnola_: yeah, I'd come to that conclusion.  hoping the verbatim thumbdrive I have will work
[21:49] <kriume> giff: i dont know
[21:49] <ikonia> !info conky-colors
[21:49] <ikonia> kriume: you need to be in the extracted directory of the file you've just downloaded
[21:49] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:50] <agliodbs> suicidolt: thumbdrive booting is very fussy.  it may be that you need a differnt brand of thumbdrive.  what have you tried up to this point?
[21:50] <giff> kriume, do this: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:50] <kriume> ikonia: i am... kristoffer@IMEDIA-4012:~/Nedlastinger/conky-1.8.1$
[21:50] <old_keyboard> Is there a way to show full path (/home/xxx) in "Select custom icon" for shortcuts window?
[21:50] <kriume> ok giff
[21:50] <intrader> jack_^,I get error in using the startupmanager 'Glib-GIO_Error: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.1/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init:assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error = NULL) - last lines from statupmanager output
[21:51] <kriume> giff i just did install it, and tried to run "make" again but still cant
[21:51] <ikonia> kriume: no, the conky-colors directory, not conky
[21:51] <E21> How do I get gecko-mediaplayer to work with Chromium?
[21:51] <terry> del_diablo: KDE has option to change number of lines per notch but I do not think gnome has such a configuration.  I may be wrong but don't think so. You might want to install KDE.
[21:51] <azm> Hello, how come that updates dont come with new version of firefox?
[21:52] <Logan_> !ff4 | azm
[21:52] <agliodbs> azm: 4.0 was released less than a week ago.  give us a break
[21:52] <kriume> ikonia: i dont know but i pressed that "Download Conky Colors" button from this website http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html and it was conky there
[21:52] <em> i dont want to hear that's bad hardware because this is my laptop
[21:52] <ikonia> kriume: in that directory is there a file called "Makefile"
[21:52] <zertyui> hello there
[21:52] <zertyui> unable to install postfix
[21:52] <azm> agliodbs, Im sorry but I would think that this is question of hours...
[21:52] <kriume> ikonia: but there is not working anyway?? i am inside this folder and try to "make" there is a makefile inside it but terminal cant find
[21:52] <zertyui> what's wrong ?
[21:53] <azm> Logan_, thank you
[21:53] <firevai> where would i go to ask about festival.. the text to speech app? i tried #festival, but there is no one in there.
[21:53] <Logan_> azm: you're welcome
[21:53] <zertyui> i got this error during the installation of postfix  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585985/
[21:53] <ikonia> kriume: in the directory you are in is there a file called "Makefile"
[21:53] <kriume> ikonia: Yes there is 2 makefiles there one ".am" and ".in" files
[21:53] <piotr__> elo
[21:53] <ikonia> kriume: that is not a makefile
[21:53] <giff> kriume, gnome-look.org is down can't try it
[21:53] <ikonia> kriume: you need to contact the guide author, his instructions are not correct
[21:54] <giff> kriume, what about ./configure
[21:54] <old_keyboard> Is there a way to show full path in "Select custom icon" ? http://i56.tinypic.com/2vaehqu.png
[21:54] <kriume> giff: configure: error: Can't locate your X11 installation
[21:54] <del_diablo> terry: KDE is ugly and undermantained compared to GNOME....
[21:54] <azm> Logan_, why the development team just not include it instead using ppas for various software
[21:54] <azm> ?
[21:54] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:54] <kriume> giff: that was the last line i copied there
[21:54] <intrader> jack_^,would it be a problem to install libdesktop-agnostic-xfs-gio to get arround the startupmanager problem?
[21:54] <em> what's the name for the best color picker you can get in the repos?
[21:54] <kriume> giff: bunch of other text came too
[21:55] <giff> old_keyboard, try ctrl+L
[21:55] <giff> kriume, looks like a broke package to me
[21:55] <firevai> ok guess i'll ask in here then lol.. first of all .. hello to everyone... my question is... i'm trying to use festival with another chat program.. but have no idea where to look to try to get help.. i've googled my brains out, and find nothing.. i had it working a few years ago.. but cant remember how lol. can someone help?
[21:55] <giff> we can't look because the site is down
[21:55] <Pumpkin-> azm: It's because of the way Ubuntu is developed. It isn't a fluid "always up to date" distribution. It is a snapshot of a release date (with security+bugfixes only mostly).
[21:56] <old_keyboard> giff: nope, that only shows the bar
[21:56] <terry> del_diablo: Sorry, but I beg to differ:  KDE is a very powerful window manager. Gnome is too.  They are booth  well maintained.  It is just matter of preference.
[21:56] <del_diablo> terry: Powerful != good looking
[21:56] <firevai> i think it was a script i got from someone, or a plugin or something
[21:56] <firevai> more sure it was a script lol
[21:56] <kriume> giff: all i did was just move the folder from the "tar.bz2 file to my download directory, is that wrong? should i extract
[21:56] <gartral> Hello all, I have a CR-48 laptop and i installed ubuntu onto it, but it lacks a bunch of keys and i was hoping that someone could tell me how to make shortcut aliases for pgup, pgdn, end, home and caps lock
[21:56] <intrader> jack_^, are you around?
[21:57] <giff> old_keyboard, stupid gnome, I call a bug
[21:57] <aStewartS90> Anyone know anything about intel mac's on ubuntu?
[21:57] <firevai> i have the plugin for pidgin.. but its direct connect ++ i need festival to read lol
[21:57] <old_keyboard> :p
[21:57] <azm> Pumpkin-, is there a way to force the system to use some official bleeding edge mirror ?
[21:57] <giff> kriume, copy from the archive window? that extracts it
[21:58] <kriume> giff: yeah
[21:58] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:58] <kriume> giff: is there another way to install conky?
[21:58] <suicidolt> agliodbs: the same netbook booted fine to linux before with the exact same SD card
[21:58] <giff> gartral, there's a helpful thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10484321
[21:58] <raylee> hi
[21:58] <giff> !conky |kriume
[21:58] <mkanyicy> hi raylee
[21:58] <giff> !conky | kriume
[21:58] <raylee> sup
[21:58] <agliodbs> suicidolt: are you trying to boot from the hard disk, or fro a usb drive?
[21:58] <maxagaz> what should I use to record movement of mouse and keyboard to reproduce actions automatically ?
[21:59] <mkanyicy> raylee, how can we help you
[21:59] <kriume> giff: gnome-look seems to be down, ill try it lateer
[21:59] <raylee> has anyone had problems with flash
[21:59] <kermit> when i aptitude remove something, what is the {u} next to some of the package names?
[21:59] <raylee> on ubuntu
[21:59] <mkanyicy> raylee, it crashes, on firefox?
[21:59] <arand> !flash
[21:59] <giff> kriume, what about the one in the repo?
[21:59] <raylee> yes
[21:59] <raylee> on all browesrs
[21:59] <raylee> that i use
[22:00] <mkanyicy> raylee, i think that version has a problem
[22:00] <kriume> giff: whats repo?
[22:00] <raylee> i use ubuntu 9.10
[22:00] <giff> !repo | kriume
[22:00] <license2grill> Hi there
[22:00] <Pumpkin-> azm: you can always go play with narwhal. I'm not sure if Ubuntu has a "always track the bleeding edge" option like Debian has unstable or not. (someone else will know).
[22:01] <kriume> giff: i dont know
[22:01] <del_diablo> !patience | terry
[22:01] <mkanyicy> hi license2grill
[22:01] <wildc4rd> out of interest, I have a netbook on Maverick, hooked up to a 24 inch monitor, is there any way I can make firefox default to open on the big screen?
[22:01] <giff> have you tried it? install with sudo apt-get install conky
[22:01] <giff> kriume, ^
[22:01] <license2grill> Raylee, I saw a post on WebUpd8 about using chrome flash plugin in Firefox
[22:01] <fisch246> when referring to IP addresses and CIDR... if i say <IP_ADDRESS>/16 is it just like me saying 192.168.0-255.0-255?
[22:01] <azm> Pumpkin-, ok, thanks for giving me smile on the first sentence.
[22:01] <kriume> giff: seems like i have to wait anyway because the gnome-look is down, and yeah i had downloaded conky and not conky colours i dont know how that happened
[22:02] <newbie01> Does anyone know a lyx channel
[22:03] <photon> what's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?
[22:03] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[22:03] <gartral> giff: i don't think those instructions are useful for me.. at least i don't understand the bindings.. it looks like those bindings are standard keys for the functions (like f11 is fullscreen but my keyboard only goes up too f10)
[22:03] <kriume> giff: yeah but i need conky colors! xD
[22:04] <giff> kriume, why? what's the difference?
[22:05] <kriume> giff: i dont know, but the commands i trying to do from this guide i cant because i dont have conky colors
[22:05] <giff> gartral, sorry i don't have a cr48 (envy)
[22:05] <giff> kriume, why not use plane conly and a guide for that?
[22:05] <newbie01> im looking for a document setting in lyx that puts a scientific article in 2 columns?
[22:05] <giff> kriume, see wiki here http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=FAQ and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky
[22:06] <|Long|> when you install program what directory will be? /etc or /bin?
[22:06] <giff> kriume, plain*
[22:06] <Fuchs> |Long|: the binary itself will be in /bin, /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin  (should never be the case by apps out of an official package)
[22:07] <kriume> giff: i dont like the plane conky it was just black with white ugly and gets over my desktop icons
[22:07] <|Long|> Fuchs, thanks
[22:07] <Fuchs> |Long|: stetings, however, will go to /etc, things like pictures and sounds to share (or /usr/share), and libraries to /lib or /usr/lib.
[22:07] <suicidolt> agliodbs I'm trying to boot from a sd card, which is how I set up the computer I'm on right now with ubuntu, but I had to format the sd card
[22:07] <Fuchs> |Long|: you can use the command `whereis`  or `which` to locate a binary, and list files of a package with dpkg
[22:07] <giff> kriume, nothing you couldn't change
[22:07] <|Long|> alright cool Fuchs
[22:08] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[22:08] <kriume> giff: i dont know how
[22:08] <agliodbs> suicidolt: oh, I can't help with that.  I'm abut to do that for the first time
[22:08] <intrader> Anyone, I have used the startupmanager  to select the previous kernel - that works but now what happens ti the next update?
[22:08] <old_keyboard> Anyone knows if there is a way to show full path in "Select custom icon" ? http://i56.tinypic.com/2vaehqu.png (ctrl+l does nothing)
[22:08] <giff> kriume, see the conky wiki for more info
[22:08] <giff> del_diablo, learn vim or emacs dammit :P
[22:08] <suicidolt> I am having troublt installing linux, could anyone help me?  for some reason my computer is no longer booting from either my flash drive or my sd card
[22:09] <Secluded1> check your bios,
[22:09] <suicidolt> Secluded1: I did, it says it's booting from removable devices first
[22:10] <|Long|> Fuchs, i asked one guy i know not long over see my glftpd while i was on vacation..i dont know what kind of crypt script he installed on my system its hide all my hard drives
[22:10] <suicidolt> but then it opens windows
[22:10] <kriume> giff: doesent looks like it can do mutch just stuff like this http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=36652 pretty ugly lol
[22:10] <Secluded1> what is the model/brand of your computer? some have a separate for drives first
[22:10] <suicidolt> asus 900hd
[22:11] <|Long|> Fuchs, can youi help me?
[22:11] <giff> kriume, you think so? I'd join the arch forum and get on this thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=39906&p=1 ;)
[22:11] <Fuchs> |Long|: probably not, since I don't know what or where he might have installed and how.
[22:12] <|Long|> Fuch, alright cool
[22:12] <Fuchs> |Long|: if he used the package management, which I doubt, then you can get a list of recently installed software. If he did it by hand, you have to look by yourself
[22:12] <|Long|> he did by dpkg
[22:12] <giff> kriume, when I think about it I'm pretty sure conky-colors is just a "skin" for vanilla conky
[22:12] <|Long|> i checked on history/logs
[22:13] <kriume> giff: ill chek it out
[22:13] <del_diablo> Where in the obscurity of xorg do I change a global value that controls how many lines a application scrolls?
[22:13] <cyryl> eeee
[22:13] <terry> |Long|: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list  #Will show the latest installed last
[22:14] <cyryl> what up?
[22:15] <|Long|> terry, i found it thanks, but what is the cmd to un-install it?
[22:15] <giff> del_diablo, I'm sure you already saw that (first hit on google) but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628725 also it doesn't work that's why you don't get any replies.
[22:16] <terry> |Long|: apt-get remove <pkg-name-here>
[22:16] <suicidolt> Secluded1: asus 900hd
[22:16] <the_core> hello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my lapyop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S
[22:16] <kriume> giff: gnome-look.org is up again , ill try
[22:16] <Secluded1> ok
[22:16] <del_diablo> giff: thanks
[22:17] <del_diablo> giff: (do you have the xset version of that?)
[22:17] <guntbert> intrader: the worst that can happen is that you have to choose your preferred kernel once from the grub menu
[22:17] <terry> |Long|: or  dpkg -r <pkg-name-here>
[22:17] <giff> del_diablo, no sorry
[22:18] <terry> |Long|: Either should do fine for you.
[22:18] <intrader> Anyone, I have used the startupmanager  to select the previous kernel - that works, however started from the terminal gives and error in GLIB-GIO