[16:47] <dpm> good morning/afternoon/evening everyone!
[16:48] <andrejz> evening
[16:48] <andrejz> dpm do you happen to know what is happening with chromium translations ? i saw fta forwarded you my email
[16:49] <dpm> andrejz, we're discussing it right now in #launchpad
[16:49] <andrejz> ok
[16:49] <andrejz> coming
[16:51] <dpm> andrejz, thanks for sending the heads up to fta. Btw, the conversation is nearly over I think, so you might want to look at the public log for the earlier discussion
[16:52] <andrejz> ok, i will. I am glad to report stuff :)
[16:53] <dpm> also notice that Danilo and I are in the Platform sprint in Dallas, so we might not be responsive at times
[16:56] <andrejz> yes i noticed you weren't online in the morning to greet us :)
[16:56] <dpm> :)
[16:57] <danilos> andrejz, in short, the fact that translations are "off" right now is just an error on LP side (we forgot to run the migration script)
[16:57] <andrejz> ok, so all "suggested" strings will be automatically accepted at some point in the future ?
[17:00] <danilos> andrejz, yeah, today or tomorrow (though, my concept of today is different from the standard European today :)
[17:01] <danilos> andrejz, we'll still have to think how to best deal with upstream imports possibly overwriting translations in LP
[17:01] <andrejz> one day up or down doesn't matter as long as i don't have to click like crazy i am happy :)
[17:02] <andrejz> i noticed a similar thing in OpenShot (that's where strings "Ubuntu" also appeared)
[17:03] <andrejz> but fortunately there were only 70 of those strings so i clicked through it
[17:05] <andrejz> @danilos: We can live with our strings not appearing in upstream chromium (even though we would prefer it), as long as our translations don't get owerwritten every week or so
[17:07] <danilos> andrejz, right, unfortunately, that makes Launchpad chromium-browser project an actual fork of chromium-browser, and LP can't handle that in a decent way
[17:07] <danilos> andrejz, we can hack something up (like put the templates on Ubuntu, so you can translate there)
[17:08] <danilos> andrejz, but we'll have to see what gives us the best bang for the buck and doesn't piss fta off too much (or more than he's already pissed off :)
[17:08] <andrejz> ok :)
[17:13] <andrejz> and we just don't want to confirm already translated strings. so whatever does that (and doesn't piss off fta too much) makes us happy to :)
[17:14] <andrejz> btw, danilos - are you from Serbia?
[17:23] <danilos> andrejz, yeah
[17:23] <andrejz> cool, i am from slovenia so we were born in the same county :)
[17:23] <danilos> andrejz, heh, that's true :)
[17:24] <danilos> though soon enough, we'll start seeing more and more kids who weren't :)
[17:24] <andrejz> yup, things change
[17:25] <danilos> andrejz, are you planning on attending UDS in Budapest? that one is close enough :)
[17:26] <andrejz> Yes, i would really like to come, but unfortunately there is some possibility i will have to go and do some research work in Japan
[17:26] <andrejz> But if that doesn't happen i will come 110%
[17:29] <danilos> andrejz, it'd be nice to meet up, but Japan sounds interesting as well :)
[17:30] <andrejz> well, i would prefer to be at UDS but i really need to do this if i want to do my PhD , so..
[17:30] <andrejz> ubuntu interests me much more than my current research work
[18:09] <dpm> andrejz, c'mon, between UDS and Japan? Choose UDS!!!
[18:09] <dpm> just kidding
[20:46] <dpm> hi all, if you want to join us, there is a new Ubuntu Translations videocast starting in ~15 minutes:
[20:46] <dpm> http://davidplanella.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/new-ubuntu-translations-videocast-tomorrow/
[20:59] <kelemengabor> I can hear and see you :)
[21:00] <Gwaihir> yes, I can hear you
[21:00] <kelemengabor> sound is good enough
[21:43] <dholbach> dpm, you still videocasting? which room are you in? :)
[21:43] <dpm> dholbach, grand ballroom B
[21:50] <dholbach> dpm, aha! thanks!


[02:49] <yigal> hello, I would like my ban from #ubuntu to be lifted. What do you need?
[02:51] <rww> yigal: what did you get banned for?
[02:54] <yigal> I spoke about offtopic topics, not agregious or awful, but they were offtopic.  I was given a single warning from an op., unfortunately I was a bit drunk, and didn't comply, and that was my fault, and then banned.
[02:55] <rww> going to be on-topic in future?
[02:55] <yigal> yes sir
[02:55] <yigal> well in #ubuntu not in #ubuntu-offtopic (:))
[02:55] <rww> alrighty, ban removed. noting that if it becomes a repeat thing, ban resolution tends to get more complicated :)
[02:56] <rww> indeedy :)
[02:56] <yigal> sweet, thank you rww, will do my best to be on my best
[14:01] <bazhang> is it bummer like the most of the other things around ubuntu,
[14:01] <bazhang> classic nettazauma


[06:29] <kyhwana> soo,dumb question. After I deploy a juju charm, how do I ssh into it?
[06:30] <kyhwana> If I do "juju debug-hooks smokeping/0" I get "INFO Connecting to remote machine <IP_ADDRESS>..." then  ssh "Permission denied (publickey)".
[06:30] <kyhwana> (I assume it uses id_rsa..
[07:00] <kyhwana> nvm, got it. Must not have been copied properly
[07:36] <kyhwana> well, after all that, that was pretty easy.
[07:38] <kyhwana> Now I guess I should get it to use a smokeping template that you can configure. Hmm
[07:55] <kyhwana> hmm, so I assume I can use the hook directory to copy a config to the newly deployed charm thing and the install script in the hook dir to do that.


[11:20] <thumper> rockstar: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/ibranch-interface-smashing/+merge/29969
[12:59] <thumper> sinzui: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/lp-app-javascript/+merge/29977 if you are interested in looking
[14:46] <mwhudson> anyone want to review a branch?
[14:46] <mwhudson> it's waffer thin
[14:49] <rockstar> mwhudson, me
[14:49] <mwhudson> rockstar: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/launchpad/reenable-layer-profiling-bug-605875/+merge/29990
[14:51] <rockstar> mwhudson, yay. r=me
[14:52] <mwhudson> rockstar: thanks
[14:52] <rockstar> mwhudson, no problem
[15:15] <james_w> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/launchpadlib/fix-default-version-in-test/+merge/29943
[15:15] <james_w> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/lazr.restfulclient/ensure-representations-are-json/+merge/29945
[15:15] <james_w> if someone has some time
[16:21] <mwhudson> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/launchpad/remove-commit-from-make_running_import/+merge/30018 <- SUPER TRIVIAL
[16:27]  * thumper looks
[16:28] <thumper> mwhudson: done
[16:30] <mwhudson> thumper: ta
[17:20] <james_w> also https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/launchpad/expose-blueprints/+merge/30026
[17:20] <james_w> I'm just stepping out for lunch though


 Can someone recomend a good converter program
[03:04] <MoMo> hads: i understand that ... is there a tutorial regardless?
[03:05] <MoMo> should i make all my frontend's have secondary backends?
[03:24] <MoMo> i'm really confused at this whole process.  interfacing with my cable company and all.  I have the haupaggue HVR-1600 ... if I'm correct it supports multiple tuners on the one card ... but i have no clue how to enable that
[03:34] <tgm4883> MoMo, did you look at the wiki?
[03:36] <MoMo> yes, i'm not find it as easy as i would like ... i'm constantly doing the TIAS method and breaking things
[04:31] <mycosys1> is 0.23.1 in the ubuntu repos?
[04:31] <superm1> !autobuilds
[04:31] <mycosys1> or would i have to go dailys
[04:31] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about autobuilds
[04:31] <superm1> dailys
[04:31] <mycosys1> bother
[04:32] <superm1> well it's not like autobuilds aren't stable though
[04:32] <mycosys1> you again superm1 - must say you have years of being extremely helpful
[04:32] <superm1> thanks :)
[04:32] <mycosys1> iirc i think i followed ur guides to get xvmc up
[04:33] <tgm4883> also, you have to manually edit it for 0.23.1
[04:33] <tgm4883> i'm working on it right now though :)
[04:33] <mycosys1> edit what?
[04:33] <mycosys1> is the new replacement for init still causing issues?
[04:35] <mycosys1> makes me uneasy - i am so used to how init.d works
[04:35] <mycosys1> !0.23.1
[04:35] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about 0.23.1
[04:35] <mycosys1> !init.d
[04:35] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about init.d
[04:35] <mycosys1> bother again
[04:36] <superm1> he's not referring to the init changes
[04:36] <superm1> he's referring to the PPA for 0.23.1
[04:36] <superm1> you have to manually change your repo to it after turning on autobuilds
[04:36] <superm1> because the autobuilds logic didn't expect point releases
[04:36] <mycosys1> thats not hard
[04:36] <superm1> the PPA is still building daily
[04:37] <tgm4883> !stab mcc-backend
[04:37] <superm1> er well not daily necessarily, only when upstream makes changes
[04:37]  * Zinn stabs mcc-backend with a WASP knife.
[04:37] <tgm4883> I always forget that I have to restart that if I make changes to root changes
[04:37] <mycosys1> what is the init.d replacement again?
[04:38] <tgm4883> upstart
[04:38] <mycosys1> does it still have start scripts ala /etc/init.d
[04:39] <superm1> they're in /etc/init
[04:39] <superm1> there are compatibility links in init.d though
[04:39] <superm1> so old style commands should work too
[04:40] <mycosys1> sweet - was may main worry
[04:40] <mycosys1> have had to use them a lot in my time
[04:40] <mycosys1> *my
[04:41] <superm1> really, the new way is far simpler
[04:42] <mycosys1> sounds like it
[04:42] <tgm4883> and more robust
[04:42] <superm1> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythtv/mythtv-fixes/annotate/head:/debian/mythtv-backend.upstart
[04:42] <mycosys1> any advantage/disadvantage to amd64 on mythbuntu atm?
[04:42] <Zinn> [bazaar.launchpad.net] ~mythbuntu/mythtv/mythtv-fixes : contents of debian/mythtv-backend.upstart at revision 300
[04:42] <superm1> that's what the upstart job for mythtv-backend looks like
[04:43] <mycosys1> simpler is an understatement
[04:44] <tgm4883> superm1, i'll probably be bugging you about some debian config file stuff in a bit
[04:44] <tgm4883> so don't go anywhere :)
[04:44]  * superm1 hides
[04:45] <mycosys1> so - the 64bit question - so i can hit download. mainly any reason not to go amd64
[04:45]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[04:45] <tgm4883> I use amd64
[04:45] <tgm4883> flash isn't very good, not sure how well it works on 32-bit
[04:45] <tgm4883> I don't use flash all that much though, just when I lose a show
[04:46] <rhpot1991> flash sucks
[04:46] <mycosys1> is a dedicated backend/frontend - tho i sometimes will xforward/ssh in to do stuff i cant on a win box
[04:46] <mycosys1> flash is non issue
[04:48] <mycosys1> we r talkin adobe flash right?
[04:48]  * tgm4883 resists the urge to say we are talking about camera flashes
[04:49] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: camera flash sucks too
[04:49] <mycosys1> :P ie as adverse to nand flash lol
[04:49] <rhpot1991> real men get a good lens that doesn't need flash
[04:49] <mycosys1> nand flash is rather nice however
[04:49] <mycosys1> (1:49:13 PM) rhpot1991: real men get a good lens that doesn't need flash <<< 'umbrella' flashes are rather nice
[04:50] <rhpot1991> mycosys1: if you are bouncing flash then thats acceptable
[04:51] <mycosys1> no other way to go on a 'real' camera
[04:52] <mycosys1> even if it means gaffing white card to an adjustable head flash outdoors
[04:56] <mycosys1> if any of you want my help in return i can commonly be found on whirlpool.net.au desktops forum, or efnet #desktops
[04:57] <mycosys1> doubt u will but....
[04:57] <Zinn> [whirlpool.net.au] Whirlpool Broadband News
[04:57] <mycosys1> forums.whirlpool.net.au
[04:57] <Zinn> [forums.whirlpool.net.au] Whirlpool Forums
[14:23] <hipitihop> does mythbuntu install and setup mysql ? and if so, how do I know what the root user password is ?
[14:25] <hipitihop> I'm tryingb to install freeswitch with bluebox on the same box as my mythtv but I see that mysql has already been installed
[14:33] <gregl> hipitihop, /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[14:34] <hipitihop> gregl, thanks, that probably has the mythtv db password, but I have found my root password anyway
[14:38] <hipitihop> gregl, however can you tell me if webserver section of the following instructions http://www.voipkb.com/wiki/index.php/Install:Linux#Ubuntu is likely to interfere with MythWeb
[14:38] <Zinn> [www.voipkb.com] Install:Linux - VOIPKB
[18:21] <Gibby1313> I noticed the accuweather script gone from mythweather now, i downloaded it and put in the place it was, got it working on 2 front ends but the other front end doesn't recognize it, i made sure the permissions are correct, am I missing something?
[18:44] <rhpot1991> hipitihop: your root mysql password should match your user's password IIRC
[18:44] <rhpot1991> you can set it by sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql5-server
[22:02] <Gibby1313> any mythzoneminder users in here? I am having an issue with the green haze
[23:39] <hipitihop> rhpot1991, indeed you are right, it is same as my user, thanks.
[23:45] <kcormier> Hey all.
[23:47] <kcormier> I want to be able to stream audio from my laptop to my myth box.  In other words, allow the myth box to act as the speakers for all audio coming from my laptop.  is that possible?
[23:57] <kcormier> I'm imagining my best bet would be with pulse, but wondering if anyone else has any input.


[00:06] <tatertotz> biggtimber: someone else mentioned having that issue, good thing it seems to be merely cosmetic
[00:10] <biggtimber> yeah, mostly annoying.
[00:11] <thehumbleguest> Hello!
[00:50] <blahboybaz> I have a read only mount that I'm not sure is getting mounted right..  in /etc/fstab there is..  "/home/myuname/some/big/long/absolute/path/LFS        /srv/Apache/Sites/LFS           ext4    bind,ro,nofail        0       0"  but in mount output there is..  "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root on /srv/Apache/Sites/LFS type ext4 (ro,relatime,errors=remount-ro)"  <--  Does that indicate that "/" is what's being remounted rather than "/home/
[00:50] <blahboybaz> myuname/some/big/long/absolute/path/LFS" ?
[00:50] <blahboybaz> sorry wrong channel
[01:45] <robertparkerx> my main drive is mounted and showing in fstab with uf8 support. How do I get my mounted drive with utf8 support?
[01:45] <robertparkerx> I read that is how I can solve my vsftp issue with it not showing utf8
[01:58] <oerheks> robertparkerx, there is no need to do something special in fstab, make sure your locales is set right? https://askubuntu.com/questions/28635/how-to-add-utf-8-support-to-my-hard-disk-in-fstab
[02:00] <robertparkerx> oerheks I'm trying that now
[02:00] <robertparkerx> what would be the correct locals for us?
[02:01] <robertparkerx> en_US.UTF-8 ?
[02:02] <oerheks> en_US.UTF-8
[02:02] <oerheks> https://www.tecmint.com/set-system-locales-in-linux/
[02:03] <robertparkerx> Okay I did that and it's still showing incorrect
[02:03] <robertparkerx> It shows correct on ssh
[02:03] <robertparkerx> or sftp
[02:04] <robertparkerx> FÃÂ¼r-Heart-2018-FLAC
[02:04] <robertparkerx> should be FÃ¼r-Heart-2018-FLAC
[02:08] <oerheks> you did run; sudo localectl set-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[02:08] <oerheks> ?
[02:08] <robertparkerx> I ran dpkg-reconfigure locale
[02:10] <oerheks> not sure, if that is for the user only..
[02:10] <oerheks> sudo locale-gen "en_US.UTF-8" && sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:11] <robertparkerx> No because it warned me before setting is that it would affect all users and to make sure they spoke the lang
[02:11] <oerheks> i think that is oke
[02:12] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[02:13] <xbfrog> hi, i type in here semi often, but i seem to be ignored, this is my last attempt to be heard. not your fault but mine. "can anyone see what i'm typing?"
[02:14] <robertparkerx> oerheks https://i.hashdev.org/20200816_211354_ROBERTPARKERX.jpg
[02:14] <tatertotz> xbfrog: i can't see what you're typing
[02:14] <xbfrog> ok good bye......... your no help
[02:15] <oerheks> crossposting and never read answers given, gives the feeling not to be read
[02:15] <oerheks> lolz
[02:15] <oerheks> abuse of volunteers, i say
[02:16] <tatertotz> lol
[02:16] <oerheks> robert i miss language=en_US
[02:17] <oerheks> oh, you were still root..
[02:22] <robertparkerx> it still shows incorrect
[02:25] <robertparkerx> sudo localectl set-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US
[02:33] <robertparkerx> It doesn't make any sense that sftp would be fine and ftp not okay
[02:34] <robertparkerx> but I don't understand enough
[02:41] <oerheks> robertparkerx, done reading, i have no clue there either :-(
[02:41] <oerheks> maybe put your issue in writing on askubuntu?
[02:42] <robertparkerx> Okay
[02:52] <robertparkerx> oerheks ty for your help
[02:53] <oerheks> yw, let me know when you got answer how to fix this
[02:53] <oerheks> curious..
[02:53] <oceanus_ursus> Having a weird problem trying to switch to administrative mode in the users panel.  Anyone have a minute?
[02:55] <oerheks> oceanus_ursus, just ask, wait and see
[02:57] <oceanus_ursus> Fair enough.  I installed 20.04 on a brand new machine and have had all kinds of strange problems.  Right now, trying to troubleshoot audio. In the process, I tried to access administrator settings in the Users panel but the Unlock button is greyed out, but the default Ubuntu desktop doesn't give me any reason why.
[02:57] <oceanus_ursus> So, I switched to xfce desktop
[02:57] <oceanus_ursus> and when I use the user settings there and click Advanced Settings
[02:58] <oceanus_ursus> I get "An error occurred while checking for authorizations: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying. You may report this as a bug"
[02:58] <oceanus_ursus> I'm accessing xfce via Xrdp because HDMI out to my TV isn't working
[02:58] <oceanus_ursus> so I'm not a console user, if that has any bearing on the issue
[02:59] <oceanus_ursus> I also see some errors in the lightdm output from systemctl
[02:59] <oceanus_ursus> that it is trying to load some pam_kwallet, etc. libraries
[02:59] <oceanus_ursus> and failing
[02:59] <oceanus_ursus> it seems to be looking in /lib/security
[03:00] <oceanus_ursus> Just mentioning because it seems related;
[03:02] <oceanus_ursus> I think the update notifier is dying too.  I keep getting a "System program problem detected".  It's like nothing knows I have sudo access, even though I do
[03:05] <robertparkerx> does ubuntu have an editor like vscode?
[03:06] <robertparkerx> graphical
[03:06] <oceanus_ursus> robertparkerx  vscode can be installed on Ubuntu
[03:07] <oceanus_ursus> There's also atom
[03:07] <robertparkerx> I don't like atom very well
[03:07] <oceanus_ursus> Eclipse Theia is also around
[03:07] <robertparkerx> is there a *nix distro of vscode?
[03:07] <oceanus_ursus> I think so
[03:07] <robertparkerx> Or will I have to use something like wine
[03:07] <robertparkerx> Nice
[03:08] <blahboybaz> In a guide I'm told to use $ sudo grep -E '^\s*listen\s*=\s*[a-zA-Z/]+' /etc/php/7.2/fpm/pool.d/www.conf    <--   to determine if unix sockets are already being used. However, when I run that command I get "No such file or directory". Could the file be located somewhere else?
[03:08] <oceanus_ursus> Download page has a .deb  https://code.visualstudio.com/download
[03:08] <blahboybaz> https://www.linode.com/docs/web-servers/apache/how-to-install-and-configure-fastcgi-and-php-fpm-on-ubuntu-18-04/#configure-apache-with-php-fpm
[03:09] <robertparkerx> Do you know if ubuntu will support three monitors
[03:10] <blahboybaz> oceanus_ursus: my apologies. didn't realize I was pating a link right after a link
[03:10] <blahboybaz> pating\pasting
[03:10] <oceanus_ursus> blahboybaz  no worries; I was a little slow on the draw
[03:10] <oerheks> oceanus_ursus, one thing that prevents your action, is a dirty filesystem, is it mounted RO?
[03:10] <oceanus_ursus> Good question
[03:10] <oerheks> 'mount' will tell
[03:12] <blahboybaz> i think I know what went wrong - my bad
[03:12] <oceanus_ursus> oerheks  I think it is okay:  /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[03:12] <blahboybaz> oceanus_ursus:   :)
[03:12] <oceanus_ursus> and I can create files in my home directory
[03:13] <oceanus_ursus> It's a default install, so it's basically /boot and / as the only partitions
[03:15] <oceanus_ursus>  mount | grep /dev/sda/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)/dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
[03:45] <oceanus_ursus> Looks like some of my problem was polkit not allowing changes remotely.  Had to add a policy file to /etc/polkit-l/localauthority/50-local.d  to allow people in the sudo group do anything.
[04:02] <tripleb> Tripelb tries again. I want to trun the autoarrange on the desktop OFF. I dont get that choice when I rclick on the desktop...)
[04:03] <tripleb> AND what does the settings display choice of "adjust for tv" mean?  --  and can I have better resolution on my tv than my laptop screen?
[04:04] <tripleb> This channel used to be constantly helping folks. Sunday night and the "stay at home" order means folks are busy???
[04:09] <oerheks> if someon has a clue, they will answer.
[04:18] <blahboybaz> So (I think) I got through the installation and configuration of php-fpm but now I can not create a new (laravel) project in the directory (I think) I set a pool up for. 1: I don't know how to verify if that specific pool is actually working / running ok (and what I'm getting from google is frustrating to say the least).  2: Creating a new (laravel) project works fine anywhere else but gives errors inside the dir that was (I
[04:18] <blahboybaz> think) set up to work with php-fpm. What did I do wrong? What can I do right?
[04:18] <blahboybaz> sorry, wrong channel (again) - DOH!
[05:56] <thyriaen> Okay so i am on the journey to get openCL working on Ubuntu 20.04, Kernel 5.4.0-7634 (which comes packaged with it), Rx5700XT - the thing is that i cannot get amdgpu-pro to install since it says that the kernel is not supported ( i tried multiple ones ) here is the buildlog: https://termbin.com/v246
[05:58] <tatertotz> thyriaen: the link the mod/op posted to you earlier didn't work?
[05:58] <thyriaen> tatertotz, thats what i followed
[05:59] <thyriaen> tatertotz, https://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas/amdgpu.html this, installed it in headless mode
[05:59] <thyriaen> or rather tried to
[05:59] <tatertotz> thyriaen: oh okay
[06:02] <thyriaen> tatertotz, he tested with Linux 5.4.0-40-generic but i assume ubuntu upgrades the -number in the kernels automatically with apt upgrade - is there a way to revert back to -40 ?
[06:03] <tatertotz> thyriaen: in terminal>  awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|nc termbin.com 9999
[06:09] <giacomo> How do I get ubuntu to load my sound card?
[06:24] <thyriaen> tatertotz, ah nice i got a different kernel installed, im gonna investigate in a bit and figure stuff out - thanks for the help i think i am on a good track now
[06:24] <thyriaen> tatertotz, ill come back if i hit a brick wall xD
[06:27] <sub526> Iâm having two identical Linux x86_64 systems with different Ubuntu versions. The 1st one has Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS and the 2nd systems has Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS. I see that, the older distro version(Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS) is bit faster compared to the system with later version(Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS). perf bench sched messaging -g 64 resulted "Total time:
[06:27] <sub526> 2.838 [sec]" in older Ubuntu version whereas in other machine "Total time: 9.834 [sec]". Also, time taken to load the driver(insmod) also varies between two systems. What is best way to debug and solve this issue?
[07:01] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:02] <silv3r_m00n> on ubuntu is there a way to launch an application such that it remains hidden or invisible like running in background and does not show up in the task manager panel in kde or gnome
[07:02] <silv3r_m00n> actually i want to keep LibreOffice running in background, so that when opening any documents they load quickly
[07:35] <Atlenohen> Hello
[07:36] <Atlenohen> my dmesg is full of NVLINK NVRM NVIDIA No graphics adapter found
[07:56] <ahub> hey, I'm trying to upgrade but I get an authentication error (as seen on this paste : http://ix.io/2upj) can anyone help me ? My websearch skills are failing me...
[08:00] <s3r1c1> @ahub : i'm a beginner, but i bet your download is corrupted... have you tried multiple times ?
[08:02] <guiverc> ahub, you haven't said what release, your paste implies you're on a release that is EOL & unsupported; in which case I'd recommend re-install, however https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[08:02] <s3r1c1> silv3r_m00n, in command line if you add a `&` after you command ?
[08:03] <Atlenohen> Is there any other command for hardware logging I could use to grep USB info ?
[08:04] <ahub> guiverc:I'm on 19.10 and would like to go to 20.04
[08:04] <ahub> s3r1c1:I've tried multiple times since last week, yes
[08:04] <guiverc> ahub, is your system fully updated (in 19.10), and a desktop or server?
[08:08] <s3r1c1> Atlenohen, lsusb ?
[08:12] <ahub> guiverc:fully updated, and on desktop
[08:15] <Atlenohen> s3r1c1: lsusb reports it is connected, but I still don't see filesystems, all my USB flash sticks don't work basically
[08:15] <guiverc> ahub, your mirror is only two days behind (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors); I'd switch to the main mirror and try again but I'm not sure it'll help..
[08:15] <Atlenohen> but everything else, wlan, mouse, keyboard all work fine
[08:16] <tatertotz> Atlenohen: are you chatting from the computer right now
[08:16] <Atlenohen> It doesn't even work in BIOS, I can't install Linux Mint ... perhaps USB stick is corrupt, I'll reflash
[08:16] <tatertotz> Atlenohen: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[08:16] <Atlenohen> No I'm from another computer.
[08:16] <tatertotz> Atlenohen: ok
[08:17] <Atlenohen> And?
[08:18] <Atlenohen> I need journalctl to display latest info first, "-a" doesn't seem to work to display all, it starts from some earlier date
[08:18] <Atlenohen> aha -r for reverse, okay
[08:19] <Atlenohen> The crapload of nvidia messages is distracting :(
[08:21] <Atlenohen> New High speed usb device, found, vendor, product, strings, manufacturer SRT, serial ... 7 lines and it seems all fine, it doesn't find anything wrong
[08:22] <Atlenohen> When I tried to install yesterday a new version of Ubuntu, when it started to read from squashfs on the stick, it crapped out "Device is not responding to address 2, error -71"
[10:05] <talx> Hello folks
[10:07] <talx> I'm having a problem which I'm not sure how to attend it... I have 4 nics (2 are 1gig and 2 are 10gig)......... lspci show them all but 'ip addr' doesn't only the 1 gig
[10:07] <talx> any suggestion what else could I check ?
[10:07] <talx> its a freshly new installed 18.04.5
[10:08] <tatertotz> talx: all nics will need drivers to function and show
[10:14] <tatertotz> talx: were you able to locate and install your driver(s)
[10:14] <tatertotz> talx: ?
[10:20] <talx> tatertotz
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> tatertotz: driver modules on ubuntu get loaded on boot
[10:20] <talx> just downloaded it
[10:20] <talx> I'm not sure its the case
[10:39] <tatertotz> talx: we can find out
[10:44] <talx> tatertotz so I've downloaded the tarball, extracted it. compiled
[10:45] <talx> now it should work? I've rebooted the system
[10:50] <tatertotz> talx: does it show up now? or do we need to take a more detailed look?
[11:22] <JeroenK> Good morning :)  I got a question, not sure if anyone here can help me. But I got 2 routers, and I only can get into 1, the main one. But I want to get into the other one. Context: Once I got myself fiber, changed subscription from ADSL to fiber. ISP send me a new router, and a dude to fix it all for me. Instead of sending back the old router he
[11:22] <JeroenK> suggested to use both. Forgot why, but can' t say I got much insight into those matters anyway. I got a few pics to show how the situation is here:
[11:22] <JeroenK> https://upload.picpaste.me/image/kd5YJhttps://upload.picpaste.me/image/kdJpchttps://upload.picpaste.me/image/kdSj8
[11:22] <JeroenK> xcuse me: https://upload.picpaste.me/image/kd5YJ | https://upload.picpaste.me/image/kdJpc | https://upload.picpaste.me/image/kdSj8
[11:23] <JeroenK> Added a description to each pic
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: a question for ##networking perhaps?
[11:24] <JeroenK> Hm, havent got into that yet, but something thatI might get into sooner or later.
[11:24] <JeroenK> I just want to check the overall situation of that router, what are the settings in there, other.
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> JeroenK: we try to focus on ubuntu problems here
[11:26] <JeroenK> Yeah, I wasnt sure where to go, and since I got Ubuntu running.....
[11:26] <JeroenK> k, let me go to that other channel
[11:34] <anzipex> Can somemody help me with Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop LTS? I can't run it when I choose Ubuntu 14.04 in grub menu it says "error: kernel doesn't support 64-bit cpus. you need to load the kernel first"
[11:34] <anzipex> I also have 18.04 installed on same disk, it works, but 14.04 is not
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> anzipex: 14.04 is end of life, no support anymore
[11:36] <tatertotz> anzipex: 14.04 isn't supported anymore anyway
[11:37] <anzipex> Yes, I know, but I used it to build x86 specific programs and etc. It worked well and I and I haven't done any updates to break everything
[11:41] <coconut> anzipex, end of life and online do not match, so don't do that, or better, get an LTS which is still supported.
[11:50] <Atlenohen> Hello
[11:50] <Atlenohen> How do I log the boot output to a file?
[11:51] <onegai2> What do I do with gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key (2012<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for ubuntu 18.04.5 iso?
[11:57] <talx> tatertotz it doesn't
[12:00] <tatertotz> talx: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[12:00] <tatertotz> talx: follow on screen instructions to install if not installed, then follow through
[12:00] <tatertotz> talx: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[12:03] <talx> tatertotz wrote it, still no link
[12:04] <talx> i can paste the output of it tho
[12:05] <tatertotz> talx: ok pastbin the output
[12:06] <talx> tatertotz https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jpjjXkPfZ5/
[12:10] <tatertotz> talx: no driver(s)
[12:10] <talx> what I've installed you mean ?
[12:10] <talx> maybe I didn't install what I should
[12:11] <talx> though in intel's web it looks like i did select the right one
[12:12] <tatertotz> talx: i'd expect it to look like the other nics when proper drivers exist
[12:30] <talx> tatertotz is it possible to install it via apt ?
[12:33] <tatertotz> talx: no, that would require the name of a package
[12:34] <dedondesta> how do i move window to top-right corner (occupying 1/4 of the screen) i only know how to move it to the right or bottom or top (occupying 1/2 of the screen) in kde with windows key + right
[12:38] <dedondesta> ahh i see i can set shortcuts ... what to chose
[12:44] <talx> tatertotz well install from the package doesn't do anything tbh
[12:49] <talx> tatertotz ixgbe 0000:88:00.1: failed to load because an unsupported SFP+ or QSFP module type was detected.
[12:49] <talx> :>
[12:49] <talx> :<
[12:56] <rory> Hi dedondesta check this answer, there is a Gnome Shell extension called Put Windows which does what you want https://askubuntu.com/a/1089033/62969
[12:57] <rory> dedondesta, read the whole answer though because it will interfere with default keyboard shortcuts you'll have to change
[12:57] <talx> tatertotz i fixed it with: ixgbe.allow_unsupported_sfp=1
[12:57] <talx> :p
[12:57] <tatertotz> talx: looks like you're using a unsupported module, did you buy some generic brand
[12:57] <tatertotz> talx: okay good
[12:57] <talx> yea its working
[12:57] <talx> editing grub options
[12:57] <talx> to make it perm
[12:58] <talx> thanks for having faith in me :D
[12:58] <dedondesta> rory: thank you already figured where i can set shortcut for this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1188180/how-to-set-a-ctrlupleft-to-move-window-to-the-top-and-left-corner-in-kde-plasm
[12:59] <rory> Oh KDE, my answer was useless anyway :)
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:03] <funnybunny2> What is the keyboard shortcut for switching input modes with mozc?
[13:03] <funnybunny2> I tried to look at the mozc settings, but everything is crammed into a tiny window overlapping I guess because it doesn't handle high resolution screens
[13:04] <zamba> anyone familiar with nfs and performance?
[13:06] <funnybunny2> Here's what mozc looks like lol https://imgur.com/a/05iZ2sE
[13:06] <funnybunny2> No way to resize the window
[13:12] <dev4449> Hi
[13:12] <giacomo> hi
[13:13] <dev4449> Is there anybody else having random freezes after login on 20.04?
[13:14] <giacomo> not yet
[13:15] <giacomo> Like the whole system freezes?  or it hangs for a bit as stuff loads?
[13:15] <dev4449> the whole system freezes, alt + ctrl + 1..9 , alt + ctrl + del nothing works
[13:16] <dev4449> the mouse pointer freezes
[13:16] <dev4449> I googled the problem, seems like a few other users are also having this problem
[13:16] <funnybunny2> Sorry, I'm still on 18
[13:17] <dev4449> Today, I was going to install 18 too
[13:18] <dev4449> Since I'm having no luck on 20.04
[13:18] <Atlenohen> Hi
[13:18] <Atlenohen> where is sudo bash history ?
[13:19] <dev4449> Do previous lts versions have the same kernel that the current lts has ?
[13:19] <Atlenohen> that's why half the stuff is missing in user histors
[13:20] <giacomo> 18.04 had 4.15
[13:20] <giacomo> 20.04 has like 5.3 or something
[13:20] <giacomo> 5.4
[13:20] <dev4449> They don't get backported?
[13:21] <giacomo> backport what?
[13:22] <dev4449> If that's so, assuming my problem is in the kernel, installing 18.04 will solve the problem.
[13:22] <giacomo> you could install 18.04 then grab a newer kernel from the upstream if you wanted to test it
[13:23] <giacomo> i grabbed 5.8.1 for my current 20.04 install
[13:23] <dev4449> giacomo: you're right, I thought newer kernels are backported to older ubuntu lts versions(that are still being supported).
[13:23] <giacomo> ah
[13:24] <giacomo> idk if lts implies you keep whatever kernel the release ships with
[13:24] <dev4449> giacomo: doesn't using the upstream kernel make new bugs in the system?
[13:24] <giacomo> sure can
[13:24] <dev4449> giacomo: so it wouldn't end up in a stable system, I guess?
[13:25] <dev4449> I'd better migrate back to 18.04
[13:25] <dev4449> Based on my search results my problem probably lies in the kernel.
[13:26] <giacomo> yeah, and if your system freezes after boot, there's probably no way to fix it
[13:26] <giacomo> seems like 18.04 is a good call
[13:27] <dev4449> right
[13:28] <Rian> Hello, I just made a fresh ubuntu 20 installation on my new laptop. But cant seem to get the HDMI monitor connection to work. Does anyone have a hint on how I could fix this?
[13:30] <Atlenohen> Out or in ?
[13:30] <Rian> out
[13:30] <Atlenohen> Your laptop may not support both
[13:30] <Rian> for external display
[13:31] <Atlenohen> Ah, okay, I don't know actually because I don't have much experience with laptops.
[13:32] <Rian> The out works, a collegue received the same machine and it works there (on windows...)
[13:35] <jelly> whoever forgot to enable that useless dmesg restriction in ubuntu hwe kernels... THANK YOU
[13:35] <jelly> one less annoyance to be managed
[13:36] <jelly> dev4449, you can get 5.4 kernel for 18.04 by installing linux-generic-hwe-18.04
[13:37] <jelly> my thinkpad seems to work slightly better with it.  Until do-release-upgrade to 20.04 starts working.
[13:37] <dev4449> jelly: are you having the same problem as me on 20.04?
[13:37] <dev4449> jelly: thanks for the package name suggestion
[13:38] <jelly> no, I'm still on 18.04
[13:38] <jelly> just commenting on that kernel possibility
[13:38] <dev4449> jelly: thanks
[14:01] <Atlenohen> Hi
[14:02] <Atlenohen> is this still applicable, that I can add the line below and redirect the default sudo bash history location ?
[14:02] <Atlenohen> HISTFILE="/home/username/.bash_history"
[14:02] <Atlenohen> Sorry, I meant to paste the link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/447295/where-is-the-bash-history-for-the-root-user-saved
[14:03] <Atlenohen> I forgot for sudo, I already wiped it during reinstall, dang, but oh well, making sure ASAP this doesn't happen nex time
[14:07] <jelly> Atlenohen, better practice is not to mix user and root histories; that way you'll also avoid possible file ownership/permission issues.  If you have multiple admins, each might set their own to eg. HISTFILE=/home/jelly/.rhistory or wherever
[14:10] <Atlenohen> Jelly: Oh I was going to put it in a separate file in my HOME, is that okay, or rather just make a shortcut for a reminder?
[14:13] <jelly> works for me and all unixy systems I've worked on so far
[14:22] <thehumbleguest> hey there!
[14:23] <Atlenohen> oh ok
[14:23] <Atlenohen> Except I do not like undocumented features, this line should be in and left uncommented
[14:25] <Atlenohen> I mean commented-out by default ?
[14:25] <Atlenohen> *
[14:35] <Akinsha> hello
[14:35] <Akinsha> is there a channel i can get help with microstack?
[14:36] <d1rewolf> hello all. I have a Dell 5520 I bought years ago which came with Ubuntu pre-installed. I'm trying to install ubuntu 20.04 on it, but after I reach the grub menu and choose install, I just get a blank screen
[14:36] <d1rewolf> this occurs with both the normal boot and the "safe graphics" option
[14:36] <d1rewolf> if I recall, this laptop has nvidia bumblee (optimus) which I think may be causing an issue. anyone know how to get around this?
[14:38] <d1rewolf> removing quiet and splash from the boot options doesn't do anything either :(
[15:13] <th34lch3m1st> hi all
[15:15] <th34lch3m1st> 20.04.1: tracker-miner-fs at startup stress my cpu for about 2 minutes. On 19.04 there was setting to disable files indexing. It's still possible on 20
[15:15] <th34lch3m1st> on 20.04?
[15:16] <sparr> sudo -u someuser timeout 5 sudo -l # this command produces no output, never finishes, can't be ctrl+C'd. What's up with that?
[15:17] <sparr> `sudo -u someuser timeout 5 ls` works, and `sudo -u someuser sudo -l` works, so it doesn't seem to be any single piece, but instead an emergent property of it all together
[15:42] <pavlos> sparr: if you move -l a bit to the left, sudo -u username -l timeout 5 sudo, it will output /usr/bin/timeout 5 sudo which means timeout will exec that command (sudo) for 5 seconds
[16:08] <c0rridor> Hey all. Anyone do music recording on Ubuntu here?
[16:08] <c0rridor> I am looking for a hardware interface and not sure what is compatible.
[16:20] <rory> hi c0rridor - There is actually a version of Ubuntu specifically for multimedia content creation called Ubuntu Studio - There is apparently #ubuntustudio IRC channel on this network. I'm not sure how active it is, but try asking there too.
[16:49] <c0rridor> Thanks rory!
[16:49] <c0rridor> I will check that out.
[16:52] <oft_gegong> you guys. `lynx https://youtube.com` doesn't allow you to search youtube videos anymore
[17:01] <leftyfb> oft_gegong: why in the world would you care about browsing/searching youtube using a text-based browser? Also, absolutely nothing to do with Ubuntu
[17:04] <oft_gegong> I'll PM you
[17:10] <rory> oft_gegong may enjoy #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:40] <g3poandlsl> I have successfully set up LUKS boot-time unlocking with TPM2 following this guide: https://run.tournament.org.il/ubuntu-18-04-and-tpm2-encrypted-system-disk/.  My question is what would prevent a person with physical access to the system from obtaining the LUKS unlock key by dumping it from the TPM?
[17:41] <oerheks> g3poandlsl, if you implemented it securely, no one could dump those keys.
[17:42] <oerheks> but interesting, tmp2 is a dragon .. i'll take a read
[17:43] <Sven_vB> g3poandlsl, the purpose of security chips is to limit key extraction to people with veeeery expensive equipment, and making the process cumbersome and fragile even with such exceptional equipment.
[17:43] <oerheks> "remove the root.key file from your system, to prevent easy access to the decryption key."
[17:43] <Sven_vB> g3poandlsl, essentially, it raises the cost of physical attacks against the chip so high it's way cheaper to hire some crooks to deport someone who knows the secret. ;)
[17:43] <frostschutz> g3poandlsl, not a good guide
[17:44] <g3poandlsl> frostschutz, I agree.
[17:47] <g3poandlsl> so the purpose of this is to allow automatic unlocking of laptops with FDE. Suppose a user's laptop is stolen. What would be the best way to secure the LUKS key in the TPM so that the thief is not able to obtain the key?
[17:48] <g3poandlsl> I've thought about locking down the BIOS/UEFI to only allow booting from the internal NVMe to prevent booting from a Live USB, but popping out the CMOS battery defeats that rather quickly
[17:49] <Sven_vB> g3poandlsl, is the laptop booted while being stolen?
[17:49] <oerheks> g3poandlsl, but resetting bios = losing the key, right?
[17:49] <g3poandlsl> Sven_vB, it's only a hypothetical example
[17:49] <frostschutz> g3poandlsl, have you tried it? if you can actually read the tpm key, then it's naturally useless. it shouldn't work.
[17:50] <Sven_vB> g3poandlsl, is the theoretical laptop theoretically booted while being stolen?
[17:50] <Sven_vB> g3poandlsl, I'm hinting towards cold boot attacks for recovering keys from RAM. :)
[17:51] <g3poandlsl> frostschutz, haven't actually tried. I'm assuming the TPM chip holds the encryption key(s) independently from the BIOS'
[17:51] <mimi89999> Hello. I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1891815. It seems that it went through triage because some tags were added, but it wasn't assigned to anybody. Why?
[17:51] <frostschutz> g3poandlsl, make sure you have a backup passphrase in case the tpm key is lost
[17:51] <Sven_vB> also there are some sorts of hardware bus (was it firewire?) that allow RAM dumping by default.
[17:52] <Sven_vB> mimi89999, probably noone has volonteered yet.
[17:52] <g3poandlsl> Sven_vB, I'm aware, and that's a scenario we aren't overly worried abourt
[17:52] <mimi89999> But it's quite a serious issue for an LTS release.
[17:54] <oerheks> upgrade path is not released yet.
[17:55] <mimi89999> BTW, Focal has gnome-shell 3.36, but GDM3 3.34. Are you asking for incompatibility issues?
[17:56] <Sven_vB> mimi89999, unfortunately, the free version sometimes hasn't enough developer power for all problems. in Xenial, there were screen projection bugs that caused the human-visible part of my mouse cursor to be displayed 512px left of where the software-relevant mouse cursor was, i.e. where it would actually click. afaik it was never fixed.
[17:57] <mimi89999> Ouch
[17:58] <Sven_vB> the good thing about free software is, you can always hire someone other than the vendor, to provide what the vendor can't. :)
[18:02] <mimi89999> Best would be to hire the vendor.
[18:02] <mimi89999> The fix is upstream in 3.36. Somebody only needs to backport it and make a package.
[18:03] <Sven_vB> yeah in this case probably Canonical would be the best place to fix it.
[18:04] <Sven_vB> if it's already upstream, it should be easy to upgrade it yourself, or cheap to have it upgraded.
[18:05] <mimi89999> 3.36 is packaged in Debian testing
[18:32] <Hejkki> why a basic thing like UTF-8 isn't working in Ubuntu 20.04.1 without lots of work, like right after installation?
[18:34] <sarnold> Hejkki: please do file bug reports with details on how to reproduce the problem you're seeing
[18:34] <TimMc> I've heard that a recent Ubuntu release (LTS 18.04?) had some significant energy efficiency improvements over previous versions -- does anyone know what those actual changes would have been?
[18:37] <TimMc> Would that be systemd, kernel, desktop environment stuff...? I really have no idea, it's just based on hearsay and I'd like to know if there's something real.
[18:38] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[19:28] <hussam> anyone here a ubuntuforums administrator? I seem to have three forum accounts that I would like to merge.
[19:38] <davido_> How would I go about debugging why it is that I can set my Bluetooth headphones as the output device, but that audio is still going to the analog output instead.
[19:42] <davido_> In other words, in the Gnome settings I can set the output to Bose QC35 bluetooth headphones. Nevertheless, the audio continues coming to the analog speakers plugged in.
[19:45] <davido_> The question is where I might look for diagnostics to figure this out.
[19:50] <xPatsy> Is anyone aware of a standard process for migrating a machine that's completely unencrypted to (preferably) LVM + (definitely) LUKS?
[20:00] <rr123> my gnome-shell restarts itself about twice a day(20.04), which I did not see on 18.04
[20:05] <sarnold> rr123: a common source of reliability problems is gnome extensions, if you hace any, try turning them all off, see if it's better, and then enable them one at a time over a few weeks
[20:13] <rr123> sarnold: thanks, i do have 5 of them :)
[20:25] <jiggawattz> Hey, when will Focal Fossa appear in do-release-upgrade ?
[20:25] <sarnold> rr123: oof :) that might take a while to sort out .. it might even be an interaction of two or more of them :( but I hope it's easier than that
[20:25] <jiggawattz> I though tit did at .1
[20:27] <shibboleth> jiggawattz, don't. you can't downgrade
[20:27] <semitones> Hey! I'm using a custom kernel, installed through apt. Can I get help getting update-grub to detect it automatically? I can add it to 40_custom, but it's annoying
[20:27] <shibboleth> bionic will be supported for five years
[20:28] <jiggawattz> of course
[20:28] <leftyfb> shibboleth: as will 20.04
[20:28] <shibboleth> update-grub2 would detect kernel images in /boot
[20:28] <shibboleth> could it be the naming convention?
[20:28] <shibboleth> leftyfb, iirc fossa will be supported for ten years
[20:29] <leftyfb> shibboleth: 18.04 and 20.04 are both LTS releases with the same LTS support cycle
[20:29] <shibboleth> iirc a shuttleworth interview where he said ff will be supported for ten years
[20:29] <shibboleth> wired or ars iirc
[20:30] <leftyfb> shibboleth: https://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/canonical-extends-ubuntu-18.04-lts-linux-support-to-10-years.html
[20:30] <shibboleth> in any case. no debian installer, the travesty that is snap, etc = stick with bionic, wait an see
[20:32] <shibboleth> trusty had upstart, xenial was pretty much perfect, bionic launched with some rather silly kernel bugs and *netplan* but other than that pretty decent
[20:32] <shibboleth> fossa? bend over and breathe deep, let's expirement
[20:33] <leftyfb> shibboleth: please take opinions to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel where we're not steering people away from the latest releases because you don't like it
[20:33] <shibboleth> nah, i'm suddenly reminded why i tried ub in the first place. debian with nice mods and snappier releases
[20:33] <oerheks> shibboleth, not helpfull.
[20:34] <leftyfb> jiggawattz: to answer your questions, we're not sure why it's not available yet with do-release-upgrade
[20:34] <oerheks> keep an eye on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[20:36] <semitones> I'm wondering if it might be the naming convention shibboleth
[20:36] <semitones> because all the documentation I've seen about update-grub says that it should find *all* vmlinuz files
[20:36] <semitones> but it does not
[20:36] <swift110> hey all
[20:38] <jiggawattz> interesting leftyfb
[20:38] <jiggawattz> thx
[20:39] <semitones> here is what the (working) 40_custom looks like. You'd think it would be detected automatically https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2gzCXjGKRJ/
[20:41] <semitones> shibboleth, "ubuntu is the debian you don't have to configure yourself"
[20:43] <swift110> lol
[20:45] <oerheks> semitones, what is the output of; dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[20:46] <semitones> oerheks, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qYnN45Dg4z/
[20:47] <oerheks> maybe your custom kernel is located in 'advanced' ?
[20:47] <oerheks> or does it not show up when you ran update-grub?
[20:48] <semitones> it doesn't show up in update-grub, but you can see it in the dkpg list
[20:52] <oerheks>  linux-image-4.19.139-surface-lts           4.19.139-surface-lts-1  ### linux-image-surface-lts                    4.19.139-surface-lts-1  ... you might want to remove one of these?
[21:07] <TJ-> semitones: that is because you've DELETED the exec tail line!
[21:07] <TJ-> semitones: it ought to begin with:
[21:08] <TJ-> #!/bin/sh
[21:08] <TJ-> exec tail -n +3 $0
[21:08] <auto_> hello, how can i set separate desktop background images per monitor in ubuntu 20.04? or better, how can i stretch a wide dual-monitor wallpaper across both my screens?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> semitones: In addition to what TJ- said, please pastebin the complete output of "sudo update-grub" and of "ls -l /boot/". Your kernel images should be added automatically, even with those names. I think something more is going on here.
[21:09] <oerheks> auto_, gnome-tweak-tool gives that option, span over desktops
[21:09] <auto_> awesome, thanks oerheks
[21:09] <oerheks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[21:10] <auto_> a quick google came up with some other tools but seemed to be for previous versions of ubuntu
[21:10] <TJ-> semitones: Do the /boot/initrd-$VERSION files exist for those /boot/vmlinuz-$VERSION files? if not update-grub will not add them
[21:11] <oerheks> not sure about seperate backgrounds..
[21:18] <auto_> oerheks it worked fine for spanning a 7680x2160 image, thanks again
[21:18] <oerheks> have fun!
[21:30] <Jordan_U> semitones: Is it possible that your mistake with 40_custom lead to a grub.cfg with syntax errors? If so, grub-mkconfig/update-grub would have exited with an error. When grub-mkconfig detects a syntax error in the generated grub.cfg, it assumes that it's wrong and doesn't replace the old grub.cfg. That would mean that your grub.cfg would not have changed, and will be the last grub.cfg you generated that
[21:30] <Jordan_U> doesn't have a syntax error.
[21:43] <giacomo> How do I get alsa to recognize my soundcard?  http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=d5873c0be4081fe224bec1beeaaefe460f64d277
[21:58] <fcastillo> Hi everyone, does anybody know of a good reliable way to enable scroll lock on Focal? The majority of the results i'm seeing are for older versions, and many don't work, or make my computer slow
[21:59] <fcastillo> Extra points question, why would Gnome (or Ubuntu) disable scroll locks by default?
[22:00] <sarnold> fcastillo: once upon a time I saw gui programs that had half their keyboard shotcuts stop working when numlock or scrolllock were enabled
[22:00] <sarnold> fcastillo: probably someone at gnome figured they'd solve the problem for everybody
[22:02] <semitones> sorry y'all, I had to help someone offline. One sec while I gather stuff
[22:02] <fcastillo> weird, wouldn't it make more sense to fix the the programs rather than remove a whole key. I know not a lot of people use it, but I deal with spreadsheets constantly, and I really need the key
[22:03] <sarnold> fcastillo: what does it do?
[22:03] <semitones> TJ-: I didn't delete the tail line: that output was pasted from grub.cfg which I was looking at
[22:03] <semitones> Jordan_U, gathering output
[22:04] <fcastillo> sarnold: it makes the arrow keys works as scrolling, so it wouldn't change the active cell, it just scrolls the screen
[22:07] <semitones> Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sRhSH8trFk/
[22:07] <semitones> that is update grub, 40_custom, and ls /boot
[22:07] <sarnold> fcastillo: oh! that sounds handy
[22:08] <semitones> I noticed in the dkpg -list, the surface ones were not signed, but the ubuntu ones are. Does that matter?
[22:09] <fcastillo> sarnold: it's very handy! But enabling seems to be really hard
[22:09] <sarnold> fcastillo: does gnome actively turn it back off again?
[22:09] <sarnold> fcastillo: or, rather, does *something* keep turning it off?
[22:09] <fcastillo> using xmodmap works, but after a restart/logout it's gone, and it cause gnome to become super slow
[22:10] <sarnold> hmm, xmodmap did that? o_O
[22:10] <semitones> Jordan_U, another weird thing about update-grub is it doesn't respect my timeout:hidden setting. I'll paste you grub.cfg as well to see what I mean. (after 30_os_prober it re-adds timeout:menu)
[22:10] <fcastillo> the majority of the support out there says to use xmodmap, but more recent post mention that this is not the best way anymore, and it doesn't persist reboots
[22:11] <semitones> Jordan_U, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GkQGwBQ6gF/
[22:11] <sarnold> fcastillo: that part is usually easy enough to fix, there's usually a file like ~/.xsession or similar that is executed at login, that would do the trick
[22:15] <fcastillo> sarnold: I'm ready about ~/.xsession, it seems it will do the same as ~/.Xmodmap, but probably work, since xmodmap wasn't working
[22:16] <fcastillo> the only problem left is when enabling scroll lock, gnome because sluggish. I wish there was a way to enable the key without using xmodmap
[22:18] <_Sym_> fcastillo, what about xbindkeys
[22:19] <fcastillo> _Sym_: I'll take a look at that, thanks!
[22:21] <sarnold> fcastillo: ~/.Xmodmap normally only works if you have a line in a startup file that runs xmodmap on it :)
[22:22] <fcastillo> sarnold: not sure what you mean by that, meaning I have to run xmodmap on boot anyway, it doesn't automatically runs?
[22:24] <fcastillo> sarnold: nonetheless, when enabling scroll lock with xmodmap, gnome because so sluggish, which is very weird, and hence I'm trying to find a more up-to-date answer. All the answers out there are from around 2014, some 2016, before Ubuntu used gnome-shell
[22:25] <sarnold> fcastillo: exactly -- here's my ~/.xsession https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gs8bjYdF9v/  -- I'm using setxkbmap instead of xmodmap these days, but it's the same idea
[22:38] <MikeRL> Anyone know what happened to the Mozilla Team PPA and their IRC channel? All packages except one seem to be deleted and the IRC channel is gone.
[22:40] <oerheks> mozilla gives snaps now; https://snapcraft.io/firefox -- https://snapcraft.io/thunderbird
[22:40] <oerheks> and https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next
[22:41] <oerheks> for the IRC channel, i have no clue
[22:49] <MikeRL> Problem. I have a Pi with ARM64.
[22:49] <MikeRL> No snap for that architecture.
[22:50] <semitones> Hey, sorry I dc/d, not sure what i missed
[22:50] <semitones> I summarized my grub issue here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1268026/how-can-i-get-update-grub-to-recognize-linux-surface-kernel
[22:54] <sarnold> MikeRL: what problem are you ting to solve? even groovy's aarch64 firefox is a deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/79.0+build1-0ubuntu2/+build/19623072
[22:54] <MikeRL> sarnold, I was using the security ppa to get updates a little quicker. I accepted the bug risk.
[22:55] <MikeRL> sarnold, Now the PPA seems to have been scrubbed. There's only one package in it.
[22:55] <MikeRL> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=firefox&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=
[22:56] <MikeRL> All packages related to firefox are superseded or deleted.
[22:58] <sarnold> MikeRL: hmm, interesting, my view of that page shows 1-75 of 1087 results -- I'm surprised you're not seeing the full listing
[22:58] <SupaYoshi> is there any easy way to let byobu open a bunch of tabs after a reboot?
[22:58] <SupaYoshi> without having to re-open everything again?
[22:59] <SupaYoshi> that be so handy
[23:09] <Zombie> Is there a way to install Pidgin 2.14.1 in a PPA without FlatPak on Ubuntu
[23:11] <lotuspsychje> Zombie: we advice to install packages via the ubuntu repos, or snaps
[23:11] <Zombie> They only have 2.13, in the Repo.
[23:11] <Zombie> And 2.13 has broken support for XMPP Carbons.
[23:13] <MikeRL> sarnold, DO you see the status for theose packages? It was blank only on the main PPA page save one xenial package.
[23:13] <MikeRL> sarnold, Firefox is marked as deleted or superseded on that page I linked to.
[23:14] <MikeRL> sarnold, Look here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+index
[23:14] <MikeRL> sarnold, Only one package of dpkg for xenial.
[23:16] <sarnold> I wonder whta that dpkg package is doing there
[23:17] <MikeRL> Have no clue. It's for a really old Ubuntu version from 2016.
[23:17] <lotuspsychje> Zombie: if an ubuntu package has something broken, please file a !bug so the developers can work on it
[23:18] <Zombie> It's a version update. 2.13.0 has broken support for XMPP Carbons.
[23:40] <lotuspsychje> Zombie: did you try pidgin-plugin-pack to see if xmpp carbon is in there?
[23:40] <Zombie> Yes.
[23:41] <lotuspsychje> was it?
[23:53] <courrier> Here's some i18n issue: how can we explain that this string "Make discoverable" is not translated in French in the Ubuntu Mate 20.04 while this string has been translated 7 years ago in the code?
[23:53] <courrier> See https://www.cjoint.com/data3/JHrxZM1Sz0R_blueman-applet.png
[23:54] <courrier> Also Help and Exit messages are not translated in 20.04 (Help does have a translation in the po file... but I couldn't find Exit)
[23:57] <lotuspsychje> courrier: did you file a !bug about it?
[23:58] <courrier> lotuspsychje: well, no, I wish I could submit the translation by myself, but there's something I'm missing...
[23:59] <lotuspsychje> courrier: i would advice you file the bug, so the devs at least can work on it, then we can proceed further


[00:22] <User746> hello
[00:22] <tkooger> I have a xubuntu problem
[00:22] <tkooger> lol :P
[00:23] <tkooger> I have installed it on my old clam mac laptop
[00:23] <tkooger> and when I try to launch any programs they pop up then close
[00:24] <tkooger> anyone have any experiance with xubuntu on mac?
[00:24] <mprice> try opening up the application in the terminal it is probably segfaulting
[00:25] <tkooger> can't even get the termin l up it closes right after it is finished loading
[00:25] <mprice> which version of xubuntu?
[00:25] <tkooger> would be the most recent ppc version
[00:26] <tkooger> so 8.10
[00:29] <tkooger> also the icons on my desktop keep dissapearing
[00:29] <mprice> hmmm...... that is very messed up
[00:30] <tkooger> seems like the only window that I can get to work is the setings manager so that I can keep telling xfce to manage my desktop then my icons come back
[00:31] <mprice> here is a bug filed about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/297842
[00:32] <mprice> fixes here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982270 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=977120
[00:33] <mprice> and here: http://www.ppclinux.co.uk/wiki/maclin/Xubuntu_Thunar_file_manager_just_exits
[00:33] <tkooger> thanks man I will check them out
[00:33] <mprice> hope that helps tkooger
[00:59] <tkooger> has that fix been posted in the offical ubuntu intrepid-updates?
[01:02] <SML1226> Hi what's the best way to save my stuff from windows? Dad and sister are using a pc loaded with viruses and I need to back some stuff up before the restore. What should I do?
[01:03] <mprice> tkooger, that I don't know but I assume its fixed in Jaunty
[01:04] <tkooger> Jaunty?
[01:04] <mprice> 9.04
[01:04] <tkooger> sorry I am a linux vergin
[01:04] <tkooger> Ah
[01:04] <mprice> next version of Ubuntu coming out
[01:04] <tkooger> whens the release?
[01:05] <SML1226> I mean should I just move files or make a total backup and copy over the ones I want? I don't want to lose ones I need by forgetting the backup and then restoring it.
[01:05] <tkooger> nvm I will look it up
[01:05] <mprice> April 23
[01:05] <tkooger> Thanks.
[01:07] <mprice> Well SML1226 I would just backup the important stuff but I would also make sure that anything you backup gets scanned for virus's before you reload it after restoring
[01:09] <mprice> that way you don't reinfect the computer
[01:09] <SML1226> Yeah that was the plan but I am not sure how to go about backing it up. I know that in windows you can create a vhd image and restore parts of that. I don't want to accidentally forget certain files.
[01:10] <SML1226> I also don't know how I'm going to do my drm'd music files after this
[01:10] <SML1226> It would take a lot to burn all of them to have them for good
[01:10] <SML1226> w/o a drm that is
[01:11] <mprice> do you have an external harddrive or a spare harddrive?
[01:11] <SML1226> I do but they are really small in comparison
[01:12] <SML1226> they are like half the size
[01:13] <SML1226> nm I remembered that I have a free 70ish GB partition free on a 200GB that would bork
[01:13] <SML1226> work*
[01:13] <gorgut> hey guys, i'm having trouble getting networking up in VirtualBox. i get "Failed to initialize Host Interface Networking" Any tips?
[01:13] <gorgut> I'm virtualizing XP on Intrepid
[01:14] <SML1226> Weak PSU doesn't always power 2 hdd's though
[01:14] <SML1226> Oh forget it I have an idea. It is going to take forever though!
[01:15] <mprice> fresh install of virtualbox, gorgut?
[01:15] <gorgut> mprice, pretty recent.
[01:15] <mprice> have you dist-upgraded since you installed virtualbox
[01:15] <gorgut> mprice, yes. I also have guest additions installed
[01:16] <gorgut> mprice, wait.. not dist-upgrade
[01:16] <gorgut> mprice, just upgrade. Sorry.
[01:17] <SML1226> I need to burn some CDs, back it all up, restore the entire drive, update windows 50 times, restore the important files, install 10 anti-virus programs and then run them all at once :P
[01:18] <mprice> check this out gorgut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346185
[01:19] <mprice> or switch to u(k)(x)buntu :)
[01:19] <SML1226> so slow! and anybody use or used to use xp? best anti-virus? On my pc I use AVG but if there is something better tell me
[01:19] <bytor4232> I have to say, I LOVE XFCE 4.6.
[01:20] <gorgut> mprice, i'm using 2.0.4 OSE btw... if that helps
[01:21] <mprice> did the networking ever work before, gorgut?
[01:21] <gorgut> mprice, no
[01:21] <mprice> try those steps in that link than gorgut
[01:22] <SML1226> and please don't hate me for coming here to talk windows, sorta. I just know linux is an easy (easier) way to back this stuff up.
[01:22] <mprice> no big deal SML1226
[01:30] <gorgut> mprice, ok. i apparently don't have 'brctl' installed and package search shows nothing like that. any ideas?
[01:33] <mprice> install the bridge-utils package, gorgut
[01:33] <gorgut> mprice, now, is this just to bridge to ethernet interfaces, because Im using a wireless interface?
[01:37] <mprice> I don't honestly know, gorgut
[01:37] <gorgut> mprice, ok.. just plugging wlan0 in instead of eth0
[01:37] <mprice> that should work
[01:38] <gorgut> mprice, appears to work so far, i'm just not sure about this IP address in this foum
[01:38] <gorgut> obviously, the one I use won't be the same, but I just wonder if that's any random, unused IP on the LAN or what?
[01:39] <mprice> I believe so
[02:52] <gek_onthe> hi all
[03:11] <SML1226> anybody use pidgin?
[03:14] <rocko> no get out SML1226
[03:14] <rocko> just jokin'
[03:14] <rocko> hehehe
[03:14] <SML1226> why? I have a question about it
[03:14] <rocko> what is your problem SML1226
[03:15] <SML1226> just wondering how you make a quit message or change your name while in pidgin
[03:15] <rocko> what is your question SML1226
[03:16] <rocko> um you should consult the documentation for pidgin instead of wasting your time and other peoples time
[03:17] <SML1226> ok but I can't find it
[03:19] <rocko> SML1226 join #pidgin
[03:19] <SML1226> ok didn't know there was a room for it thanks
[03:25] <CaioCarrara_BRA> hey, can someone help me?
[03:26] <rocko> no we can't
[03:27] <rocko> CaioCarrara_BRA what do you need?
[03:29] <CaioCarrara_BRA> My xubuntu don't know my video driver... I use a main board SiS 630 and the video board is "integreted", sory my english.... Do you understand me?
[03:33] <CaioCarrara_BRA> rocko  My xubuntu don't know my video driver... I use a main board SiS 630 and the video board is "integreted", sory my english.... Do you understand me?
[03:35] <rocko> can you open up a terminal and type in lspci
[03:35] <rocko> the copy and paste the output at pastebin.ca please
[03:35] <rocko> CaioCarrara_BRA ^
[03:37] <CaioCarrara_BRA> rocko http://pastebin.ca/1383338
[03:40] <SML1226> rocko what's with saying something like no or go away when somebody asks for help? I know you're joking but why?
[03:42] <rocko> um
[03:44] <the_engineer> can anyone help me clean the 'session autostart' in XFCE on Xubuntu?
[03:44] <Mood> it's what happens when you combine a computer + irc+ emo :-s
[03:44] <the_engineer> I've been troubleshooting an autostart problem for a bit and I think this is my problem
[03:44] <Mood> computer + irc  + emo = sarcasm
[03:45] <the_engineer> I found this tidbit here http://paste.ubuntu.com/145242/ but I can't find anything in Desktop/autostart
[03:50] <the_engineer> or can anyone tell me wheter there are any system-critical applications that might be listed in autostart that I definitely should NOT uncheck?
[03:51] <the_engineer> and by that I mean in "Autostarted apps" or "xfce4-autostart-editor
[05:29] <Drew3> Hi all, I did not leave well enough alone, ooops.  What packages are needed to make a net connection auto-connect,  I was working very well and I screwed it up.
[05:31] <Drew3> I intend to uninstall and re-install the packages involved, can anyone name a few or a group.
[06:00] <J_Litewski> ok, i got a weird question
[06:00] <J_Litewski> i need to make a acpi event shell script
[06:02] <J_Litewski> since there is no Dell acpi event for the volume buttons
[06:23] <TheSheep> volume is not handled by acpi
[06:24] <TheSheep> just set your keyboard layout properly, the media buttons are bound to apropriate commands already
[06:26] <J_Litewski> on the Dell Inspiron 1000 it is
[06:27] <J_Litewski> it's an Fn+F* combo
[06:29] <J_Litewski> the brightness buttons work now after i downloaded the driver for it, but the volume button refuse to work
[06:31] <J_Litewski> i also tested the brightness commands found in /etc/acpi/ and they dim and brighten my screen
[09:12] <draenei> Hi all
[09:13] <TheSheep> !hi
[09:13] <draenei> thanks! :)
[09:17] <forces> !hi me
[09:17] <forces> !hi /me
[09:17] <forces> !hi | me
[09:18] <forces> !hi | /me
[09:18] <forces> ??
[09:18] <forces> bug
[09:18] <TheSheep> !botabuse | forces
[09:35] <nikolam> can I mount ext4 partition with Hardy?
[09:35] <TheSheep> no
[09:35] <TheSheep> I mean, you can, if it doesn't use extends
[09:36] <TheSheep> it's backward-compatible with ext3
[09:38] <nikolam> I use hardy. It seem that ext4 is not recognized
[09:38] <nikolam> i tried to mount it as if it is ext3 or ext2 .
[09:39] <nikolam> I have testing jaunty on ext4
[09:39] <nikolam> maybe I should ask on ubuntu+1, since ext4 is for testing, anyway
[09:52] <chewit> Hardy doesn't support ext4, it uses an older kernel
[09:54] <Slonkie> Anybody knows how to start the calculator from terminal?
[09:54] <Slonkie> (not xcalc)
[09:58] <Roonux> Slonkie: gcalctool
[09:58] <TheSheep> Slonkie: bc
[09:59] <Roonux> dpkg -l | grep calculator ;p
[10:00] <Slonkie> thanks Roonux !
[10:02] <Slonkie> one more.. I've got a dead icon in my multimedia cat. i tried sudo apt-get autoremove exaile
[10:03] <Slonkie> but the icon is still there.. then i tried /usr/share/applications but there's no exaile icon in there either
[10:07] <chewit> Slonkie, i noticed exaile. i think it installed itself after i did some updates on satuday
[10:08] <chewit> but the icon disappeared for me when i removed it.
[10:08] <Slonkie> :-/
[10:08] <chewit> could log in and log back out
[10:08] <chewit> to refresh the menu
[10:08] <Slonkie> This one diden't add itself. i installed it a lil' back. but now it wont go away :P
[10:09] <Slonkie> i even tried reinstalling exaile and removing. diden't work either.
[10:32] <Slonkie> WHat application do you guys use to transfer music to your ipod?
[10:33] <ablomen> Slonkie, rhythmbox
[10:34] <ablomen> it can do basic stuff like transfering music to/from your ipod
[10:34] <Slonkie> Cool
[10:35] <Slonkie> stupid apple! making it sooo difficult
[10:35] <ablomen> for more extensive stuff you might want to try gtkpod, its a lousy interface but pretty advanced
[10:35] <Slonkie> No i only need to transfer music so i guess rhythmbox will do just fine
[10:35] <ablomen> ok :)
[10:35] <Slonkie> Thanks
[10:35] <ablomen> yw
[10:41] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: you might try Rockbox , it is an alternative operating system for your mp3 player
[10:41] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: I can't promise that it will run on your model, though.  You will have to check their homepage
[10:42] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: http://www.rockbox.org/
[10:43] <Slonkie> I don't know if i dare trying such :P
[11:03] <Roonux> q!
[11:03] <Roonux> hum :p
[12:18] <Slonkie> What application would you recommend to compile .tex documents to .pdf?
[12:19] <chewit> OO.org
[12:19] <chewit> it does a good job at converting text files to pdf
[12:25] <G-Bleezy> Is Xubuntu installed on Ext3 by default?
[12:25] <G-Bleezy> or can you make it install on Ext3?
[12:45] <CloseYetFar> you can select the file system on install
[12:45] <CloseYetFar> yea you can use ext3 its what I would recommend
[13:25] <Pres-Gas> Hey, all.
[13:26] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: if you install texlive-base-bin you will have a command line tool called pdflatex that does what you wish (compile .tex files to PDF)
[13:26] <vinnl> Hey
[13:26] <gabkdlly> Pres-Gas: hi
[13:27] <Slonkie> Thanks, gabkdlly !
[13:28] <Pres-Gas> I am trying to figure out if 9.04 will offer the encrypted home in the regular installer this time or do we still need to burn the alternative install iso?
[13:28] <Pres-Gas> Not immediately finding it in a search
[13:28] <vinnl> I'm *thinking* you'll need Alternate, not sure though
[13:28] <Pres-Gas> I will still look and report back here
[13:30] <vinnl> Pres-Gas, http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/jaunty-encrypted-home-directories.html
[13:31] <Pres-Gas> Alright, dustin's page was my next target 'cause he was talking about this the most
[13:31] <vinnl> Heh, it turned up in a Google search for me :P
[13:33]  * Pres-Gas drinks more coffee to get his google-foo on
[13:33] <Pres-Gas> vinnl, what were your search terms?
[13:33] <vinnl> Pres-Gas, ubuntu jaunty encrypted home directory
[13:33] <vinnl> My Google-fu rocks :P
[13:34] <Pres-Gas> I think my beef is the whole code names...I tend to just use version numbers
[13:34] <vinnl> Ah
[13:35] <Pres-Gas> I guess I will have to suck it up and use em
[13:36] <vinnl> Yeah well, in helping people I tend to use version numbers since they're less scary or something (or at least reflect a chronological order at first sight), when I'm looking for something related to developers I use codenames since they do :)
[13:37] <Pres-Gas> When I was an Apple tech, I refused to use their codenames too...
[13:38] <vinnl> Yeah well, with Apple you can afford it considering their target audience
[13:39] <Pres-Gas> You also had sub version numbers and security updates, whereas linux just patches as things pop up and I do like that better.
[13:39] <vinnl> Yeah well, we do have "8.04.1 LTS" :P
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> true, true
[13:40] <knome> and we have mysql-server5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10
[13:41] <vinnl> ^.^
[14:53] <Ruadh> Hi
[15:03] <Pres-Gas> Hellom Ruadh
[15:03] <Pres-Gas> Hello too
[15:09] <Ruadh> Nooo then
[15:10] <Ruadh> Got some updates to deal with.  later
[15:40] <Slonkie> anybody know how to use pdflatex?
[15:47] <bytor4232> Slonkie, I've never heard of it.
[15:51] <bytor4232> Can I ask questions about Jaunty in here?
[15:53] <bytor4232> I'm having two issues with Xubuntu Jaunty Beta.  For one, the mixer applet races at times.  I have to kill it and add it to the panel again.  The second thing, I'm getting a segfault when I try to load xfmedia.
[16:01] <Slonkie> bytor4232 u know any other application to make .tex -> pdf ?
[16:03] <bytor4232> Slonkie, Not sure.  Its been a while since I played with TEX
[16:08] <Slor> slonkie - can't you go .tex -> .ps, and then use ps2pdf from there?
[16:09] <Myrtti> Slonkie: what part are you having troubles with?
[16:09] <Slonkie> Making .tex to .pdf
[16:09] <Slonkie> Slor i know it's possible to make .tex -> pdf i don't wanna make it harder for myself
[16:11] <Slor> so what issue exactly are you having with pdflatex?
[16:12] <Slonkie> I don't know how to use it
[16:15] <Slonkie> And the guy who recommended it left
[16:15] <Slor> heh.  I assume you already have it installed?
[16:15] <Slonkie> yep
[16:16] <Slor> and you tried the simple "pdflatex whatever.tex"?
[16:21] <Slonkie> seems like my .tex is messed up
[16:21] <Slonkie> but pdflatex did something. not sure what tho :D
[16:21] <Myrtti> the .out -log should tell you what's wrong
[16:22] <Slor> been FOREVER since I used latex. :)
[16:22] <Myrtti> texmaker is a nice app for editing and fiddling with tex if you need some debugging etc
[16:22] <Slonkie> \relax it says
[16:22]  * Myrtti uses her pink emacs with auctex
[16:22]  * knome pukes
[16:23]  * Slor still doesn't touch emacs
[16:23] <Myrtti> gedit has usable latex plugins if you don't mind installing it
[16:23] <TheSheep> and then also installing the plugins
[16:23] <Myrtti> but in general, the .out-log should be a good starting point
[16:23] <TheSheep> and a sane non-fruit-salad color theme
[16:23] <Slonkie> I just tried exporting a math assignment of mine from maple to .tex. but it's messed up
[16:23] <Slonkie> i wonder if it possible to make .mw -> .pdf ?
[16:25] <Myrtti> anihoo, time for shower -->
[16:35] <bytor4232> Hm.  I haven't been able to get the xfce4-mixer to race on the CPU again.  Wierd.
[16:35] <bytor4232> Still can't get xfmedia to open.
[16:45] <Myrtti> and yeah, my opinion is a bit biased towards emacs after fiddling with LaTeX more or less for a year
[17:24] <disassembler> how can i clear my session cache? i forget the command.
[17:24] <disassembler> every time i log in arora and firefox startup.
[17:25] <zoredache> delete the files in ~/.cache/session
[17:25] <disassembler> oh okay. :]
[17:29] <disassembler> that fixed it.
[17:29] <disassembler> zordeache: thanks
[17:41] <moodog> evening :)
[17:45] <Slonkie> Shouldn't gigolo be build in, in 9.04?
[17:49] <cody-somerville> Slonkie, whats your question?
[17:50] <Slonkie> if it's build in or not
[17:51] <Slonkie> nvm
[17:51] <Slonkie> i found it.. stupid me
[17:52] <rocko> why does xfce leave blocks of white when moving images around in gimp?
[17:53] <rocko> it doesn't happen in gnome
[17:53] <rocko> why does xfce have this problem?
[17:53] <rocko> I have left xfce for this reason
[17:53] <rocko> it is really annoying
[17:56] <rocko> should I reinstall the update manager ?
[17:56] <rocko> it does not work any more :(
[17:56] <rocko> I have to use apt to update
[17:56] <rocko> but it still tells me when I need to update
[17:56] <rocko> so I have to use apt once it says there is an update :(
[18:03] <mweichert> hello. Can someone tell me how I can enable compiz effects on Xfce?
[18:04] <mweichert> I've enabled the Xfvm4 compositor extention... it's nice, but I'd like to enable effects like cube and task switcher
[18:07] <charlie-tca> !compiz
[18:14] <J_Litewski> when will a script in cron.daily run?
[18:15] <zoredache> about 6:45am
[18:16] <zoredache> check your /etc/crontab, they are called from there
[18:22] <J_Litewski> zoredache, i don't have a working crontab
[18:22] <J_Litewski> atm anyway
[18:22] <zoredache> if /etc/crontab isn't working then nothing in /etc/cron.d will get run
[18:24] <J_Litewski> so if i want to run something in /etc/cron.daily/, it has to be in the crontab?
[18:25] <zoredache> no
[18:26] <J_Litewski> ok
[18:26] <zoredache> http://pastebin.com/f24e869d2
[18:27] <zoredache> that is a standard /etc/crontab.  The 25 6 * * * line does the command 'run-parts /etc/cron.dailly'
[18:27] <J_Litewski> ok
[18:27] <zoredache> so what happened to your crontab?  Why isn't it working?
[18:28] <J_Litewski> i made a tiny self-updating shell script yesterday and placed it in cron.daily
[18:29] <J_Litewski> and now i don't know when or how it'll run
[18:31] <J_Litewski> basically, the script is #! /bin/bash/ with sudo apt-get update/upgrade/autoremove/autoclean with the -y option
[18:31] <Slonkie> Is it possible to make an script that automaticly logs into a server trough ssh?
[18:31] <zoredache> that probably isn't really a good idea, but if you really wanted to do that, there are already things that do that
[18:31] <zoredache> see apticron
[18:32] <zoredache> Slonkie: usually if you want automatic ssh logins, then you setup ssh keys
[18:32] <zoredache> Slonkie: do a search for 'ssh key based authentication' you'll see lots of useful tutorials
[18:34] <gorgut> Slonkie, I use ssh-installkeys for stuff like that
[18:34] <Slonkie> I'm not sure if that works when i'm using ssh as proxy?
[18:40] <zoredache> what do you mean ssh as a proxy?  Are you talking about port forwarding?  Key-based authentication should work almost everywhere
[18:46] <Slonkie> an ssh tunnel as proxy zoredache
[18:46] <Slonkie> ssh tunnel works as socks 5 proxy :)
[18:47] <zoredache> how are you creating your tunnel?  Are you running a script each time you login?   You might also want to look at installing gstm and thing autostarting gstm
[18:48] <zoredache> !info gstm
[18:48] <Slonkie> i just log into my server like this: ssh -D <port> -C user@ip
[18:53] <J_Litewski> how do you rebuild the crontab?
[18:53] <zoredache> what do you mean rebuild it?
[18:53] <J_Litewski> restore the orignal
[18:54] <bytor4232> J_Litewski, I believe the original is empty.  I could be wrong.
[18:54] <zoredache> I posted mine earlier... you could update yours so it is the same as that.  I haven't changed mine from the default
[18:55] <zoredache> http://pastebin.com/f24e869d2
[18:56] <J_Litewski> ty zoredache
[18:56] <bytor4232> woot!  The Jaunty netboot installer works today.  Thats always a good sign ;)
[18:59] <J_Litewski> bytor4232, could you test something for me?
[19:00] <J_Litewski> could you open a terminal, type xfce4-mixer, then close the mixer using the X, not the close button?
[19:01] <bytor4232> J_Litewski, what do you mean?
[19:02] <bytor4232> I'm on 8.10 right this second.
[19:02] <J_Litewski> i want to see if someone other than me is getting a gtk-CRITICAL error in the terminal when you close the mixer using the close button, not the quit button
[19:10] <fortunev> Mood: can you search for a pkg for me?
[19:10] <Mood> what's up?
[19:10] <Mood> fortunev: you're not on linux right now?
[19:11] <fortunev> I am via freeshells, Not my own xubuntu box
[19:11] <Mood> ah
[19:11] <Mood> what pkg?
[19:11] <fortunev> the pkg is tovid
[19:11] <vinnl> fortunev, packages.ubuntu.com :)
[19:12] <fortunev> that will show me all ubuntu pkgs?
[19:12] <Mood> fortunev: yeah ^ :-) but here you go: tovid - tools for creating video DVDs, VCDs, and SVCD
[19:12] <vinnl> You can search for packages in the repo there :)
[19:12] <vinnl> !info tovid
[19:12] <vinnl> ^.^
[19:13] <J_Litewski> !info alsa-base
[19:13] <fortunev> awesome. thanks!
[19:13] <tim__> hii
[19:13] <vinnl> !hi
[19:13] <tim__> yay!
[19:13] <tim__> i need some help if its not a bother
[19:13] <vinnl> !ask
[19:13] <vinnl> :)
[19:14] <J_Litewski> whats a CIDSupplement?
[19:15] <tim__> I'm having issues with blender and wings3d, the entire gui is turned blue! i think it might be a driver issue. I'm trying to install the proprietary driver in hopes that it will fix it. I downloaded linux-restricted-modules but it won't launch. What should I do?
[19:16] <tim__> I have an ibook g4 with a ati radeon mobility 9200
[19:16] <vinnl> That is odd... Do you see any output on the terminal?
[19:17] <tim__> sorry but i'm not too experienced, how would i check that?
[19:17] <J_Litewski> brb, system restart
[19:17] <vinnl> tim__, open a terminal window (Applications->Accessories->Terminal), then type "blender"
[19:18] <vinnl> (Also, you can't "launch" linux-restricted-modules... You install restricted drivers through Applications->System->Hardware Drivers)
[19:18] <tim__> Compiled with Python version 2.6.1+.Checking for installed Python... got it!
[19:18] <vinnl> No errors whatsoever?
[19:19] <tim__> no
[19:19] <vinnl> :S
[19:19] <tim__> same in wings3d
[19:19] <tim__> it all works great, its just all blue.
[19:20] <fortunev> tim is blender the only appt thats all blue?
[19:20] <vinnl> Wings3D as well, apparently
[19:20] <vinnl> I don't know what they have in commong
[19:21] <tim__> yeah i tried wings in search of an alternative, but only to find the same problem
[19:22] <tim__> i'm using 9.04 btw
[19:22] <fortunev> my unprofessional advice is to install another appt that uses the 3d portion of your vid card like warzone. If that is also all blue I would guess something is up with your vid card
[19:23] <vinnl> Also, since it *is* an unstable release, it might be a bug, in which case you should report it
[19:23] <vinnl> !bugs
[19:23] <tim__> ok
[19:23] <J_Litewski> how would i reinstall the xfce4-panel via the terminal?
[19:23] <tim__> i will do that
[19:23] <charlie-tca> !panel
[19:23] <charlie-tca> same command in a terminal
[19:23] <vinnl> charlie-tca, ah, there's an ubottu  entry, great :)
[19:24] <vinnl> There was something I'd have liked to see in there this afternoon...
[19:24] <J_Litewski> my panels work, it's just i need to restart them to get the Applications button
[19:24] <charlie-tca> knome knows how to get them in, maybe zoredache too
[19:24] <vinnl> Only I can't find what it was...
[19:25] <knome> ?
[19:26] <tim__> anyone using an intuos4 yet?
[19:26] <vinnl> J_Litewski, I suppose killall xfce4-panel && xfce4-panel
[19:26] <J_Litewski> vinnl, thats what i've been doing
[19:26] <J_Litewski> no luck
[19:26] <vinnl> Strange...
[19:27] <J_Litewski> should i bite the bullet and remove my config file
[19:27]  * vinnl off to play Hedgwars
[19:27] <vinnl> J_Litewski, you can press Ctrl+Alt+Esc and click on the panel
[19:27] <charlie-tca> J_Litewski: just add the XFCE Menu through 'add to panel'
[19:28] <charlie-tca> Then change the name in Properties to Applications
[19:30] <J_Litewski> well, i think i fixed it
[19:30] <J_Litewski> hopefully
[19:31] <J_Litewski> i just need to configure everything back to what it was
[19:58] <fortunev> q
[19:59] <Slonkie> lol
[20:00] <J_Litewski> is a DeprecationWarning bug worthy?
[20:01] <charlie-tca> J_Litewski: did you update and restart the system?
[20:01] <rocko> saluton
[20:01] <rocko> hello
[20:01] <rocko> hola
[20:02] <rocko> bonjour
[20:02] <rocko> moin moin
[20:02] <rocko> hallo
[20:02] <rocko> kiel vi fartas?
[20:02] <rocko> was ist los?
[20:02] <charlie-tca> rocko: enough
[20:02] <charlie-tca> please stop now
[20:02] <rocko> how are you?
[20:02] <rocko> why?
[20:02] <charlie-tca> this is an all english chanel
[20:02] <rocko> not everyone speaks ENGLISH
[20:03] <vinnl> In this channel they do :)
[20:03] <charlie-tca> This is an all english channel
[20:03] <rocko> :(
[20:03] <charlie-tca> There are channels for other languages
[20:03] <rocko> kial?
[20:03] <rocko> bonege :D
[20:04] <rocko> charlie-tca how is your xubuntu?
[20:04] <charlie-tca> working
[20:04] <rocko> * #xubuntu :[freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[20:05] <rocko> ???
[21:42] <petrusevski> hello
[22:08] <UKGent> just installed the 64 bit version of xubuntu onto my laptop - working fine - Should make some of the more scientific Applications which I like to run sometimes, run faster. Already noticed that file operations and new installations run very fast
[22:34] <Slonkie> If i connect to a device in bluetooth, do i have to mount my mobile or how will i be able to access it?
[22:34] <Slonkie> the menu "browse files on device" is unavailable
[22:41] <Slonkie> Theres a key besides my phone name.. i wonder if there's some kinda lock on my phone?
[22:42] <Slonkie> i tried looking for something, i see nothing,


[00:49] <anonymouschen> Hello
[00:49] <AnonymousChen> Is anyone there?
[00:52] <anonymouschen> Hello
[01:02] <cornfeed> i just want to make sure, ubuntu does not have the infamous amazon search issue, correct?
[01:02] <ikonia> I don't think it does, but I'm sure a kubuntu user will confirm
[01:05] <OerHeks> Kubuntu does not use those unity lenses
[01:05] <OerHeks> or lensen
[01:05] <ikonia> perfect, thank you OerHeks
[01:07] <OerHeks> There are more search options (and tracking) in any linux-distro  like lyrics database search in mediaplayers, i don't understand the fuzz.
[03:02] <eshack> hey I'm back after a looong absence! :)  Where is the official Kubuntu documentation found?
[03:05] <eshack> wow is everyone sleeping on here?
[03:21] <SIR_Taco> eshack: ssssshhh
[03:22] <eshack> Oooops, I see I woke someone. :)
[03:22] <SIR_Taco> currently mucking around with a stuborn sump pump... fun times
[03:23] <eshack> ohh, I will leave you be then!  I found what I needed just wanted to 'drop by' the old kubuntu room.
[03:24] <SIR_Taco> well cheers anyway :P
[03:25] <eshack> thanks, catch you all later, I'm off for the night (it is here anyway.)
[04:08] <edochait> Hi guys, is there a chat room forum out there for python techies?
[04:21] <robtygart> edochait: #python
[04:21] <robtygart> http://www.python.org/community/irc/
[04:27] <robtygart> Sharing files over the network? What has the best file transfer speed?
[04:31] <persia> robtygart: one-to-one, netcat or tcpconnect+tcplisten, but if you're doing something more interesting, there are too many answers all depending on precisely what is being done.
[04:31] <robtygart> persia: I was thinking SSH, FTP.
[04:31] <robtygart> Thanks.
[04:32] <persia> Those are about the same, depending on configuration.  Lots of folk compress ssh, which may be faster or slower depending on the hardware on both ends, the load on that hardware, and the nature of the network.
[07:48] <uglyoldbob> im using the logitech k400r wireless keyboard. How can i change which audio card the volume buttons adjust?
[07:51] <uglyoldbob> oh it seems selecting the master channel with kmix is the solution
[08:51] <desserr> hi guys
[08:57] <lopster> Hello All, I'm using 12.04 and my battery is no longer working properly. Only when I'm using AC my laptop is working fine. When I unplug the cable my battery last ~1min and the laptop is shuting down. Can you please advise how can I setup my laptop so that whenever it's using battery - to go into hibernate mode right away? Thank you.
[09:06] <CruX|> hello
[09:06] <CruX|> wxwidgets on my kubuntu are linked with GTK
[09:06] <CruX|> and looks VERY UGLY
[09:06] <CruX|> how can I swi9tch them into qt backend ?
[09:26] <CosmicB> I've been using kontact for mail,calendar and all. I just started the kmail client by error. Now that I'm back in Kontact everytime I click 'mail' it pops up kmail, instead of showing kmail integrated in kontact . Wheres the 'knob' to reverse this behaviour ?
[09:30] <persia> CruX|: I don't believe we have a package for that, and in fact can't find wxQt in a release tarball anywhere.
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:38] <20WABRWYS> anyone having problems with brightness button on laptop...
[12:45] <reeed> yep. mine Toshiba laptop Fn key and special buttons are unrecognised by Kubuntu
[13:01] <snow_wons> reeed: why?
[13:31] <mime_1111> hey ppl, my external hdd of 60 gb, once i plug  it ony makes a noise, and it is impossible to enter the device, it is any way to just erase all its format, i dont care the way, or about my files, i just want to make it work, because now is like having nothing, thank you linux users
[13:56] <hateball> mime_1111: if it's "making noise" then perhaps it's dying
[13:56] <hateball> or already dead, even
[13:57] <mime_1111> clicking, but that is not helpful, due its only the thing i know
[13:57] <hateball> Clicking is a typical sign of it going dead soon
[13:57] <mime_1111> i read that with click, one can repair, im asking if by a simple command that would be possible
[13:58] <mime_1111> its just many blocks that had ''loose'' their iman power
[13:58] <mime_1111> magnetic power
[13:58] <mime_1111> or just not well setted
[13:58] <mime_1111> ?¿?¡
[13:58] <mime_1111> i dont care loosing some blocks
[14:00] <Deldeeric> I'm trying to use sed to extract a range of lines in multiple html files and output to a txt, I can make it happen with a single file but when I try to do them all at once it fails.
[14:01] <Walex> mime_1111: clicks means usually mechanical failure.
[14:01] <mime_1111> yeah, i know
[14:01] <mime_1111> but n1 says that it isnt reparable?
[14:02] <mime_1111> u recommend opening the case?
[14:02] <Walex> mime_1111: you can try security erase, if it is eSATA.
[14:02] <Walex> mime_1111: but most likely not fixable.
[14:02] <mime_1111> it isnt an eSATA
[14:03] <mime_1111> ok, thnx for ur time ppl
[14:03] <Walex> Deldeeric: thanaks for letting us know...
[14:03] <mime_1111> its curious, because with the stupid xp it detect it
[14:03] <mime_1111> so it makes non sense
[14:03] <Deldeeric> I wanted to grab the exact code real quick
[14:03] <Deldeeric> not sure if someone can help
[14:03] <Deldeeric> sed -n '51,52p' *.* > Category.txt
[14:03] <Deldeeric> this is what i want to accomplish
[14:04] <Deldeeric> but it cant do multiple files.. only one
[14:04] <Walex> Deldeeric: if you put multiple names on the 'sed' command line they are treated as if they had been 'cat'ed IIRC
[14:04] <Walex> Deldeeric: do a 'for' loop' or use 'xargs'.
[14:07] <Deldeeric> thanks for the tip
[14:07] <Deldeeric> i'll do some research on those
[14:07] <Deldeeric> Thanks Walex, ill do some research on those options
[14:08] <Deldeeric> not sure if you saw my last message or not
[14:08] <mime_1111> well, ill try opening the case, and try moving disks manually, maybe sounds freak, but its a phyisical error, so...
[14:08] <mime_1111> i dont loose nothing
[14:08] <mime_1111> and later ill try sme software, cya ppl
[14:08] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: for file in *.*; do ${sed command} ${file} > ${file}.out; done
[14:09] <Subfusc> assuming there are no filenames with spaces in them
[14:11] <Deldeeric> theres like 55,000 files i'm handling with this, and I need it to grab each line 51 & 52, would it be possible to give me an example for the loop or xargs that would take care of the whole directory?
[14:11] <Deldeeric> sed -n '51,52p' product.aspx_sku=35005.html
[14:11] <Deldeeric> this is exactly what im using above
[14:13] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: for file in *.*; do sed -n '51,52p' ${file} > ${file}.out; done
[14:13] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: note, this will create product.*.html.out
[14:14] <Deldeeric> thanks Subfusc, I appreciate it.
[14:21] <Deldeeric> I want to ask one more question if I may..
[14:21] <Deldeeric> damn I hate sounding like an idiot but get ready folks
[14:22] <Deldeeric> pertaining to...  sed -n '51,52p' ${file} > ${file}.out; done
[14:22] <Deldeeric> I'm grabbing multiple html files and analyzing each one of them, grabbing the 51, 52 lines and out to one single file
[14:23] <Deldeeric> how do I specify to do all in the directory?
[14:24] <Deldeeric> {file} - this for instance *.* in there won't work right? or *.html
[14:28] <technoid-> Deldeeric: doing all of file selection on the command line?
[14:28] <technoid-> if you have it working with one file scuh as "script file2"
[14:29] <Deldeeric> commandline
[14:29] <technoid-> and the script itself won't handle multiple files at once, look into xargs
[14:29] <technoid-> ls *.html | xargs -n1 script
[14:30] <technoid-> that will run the script on all files that end in .html in that dir
[14:30] <Deldeeric> alright I'm going to research xargs and get it going, thanks for all the help
[14:31] <technoid-> nnnp
[14:31] <technoid-> i am heading to coffee
[14:38] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: you run the command in the directory you want on the files that the pathname describes
[14:38] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: in other words *.html will give you all files that ends in .html in ${PWD}
[14:41] <Subfusc> PWD = Process Working Directory
[14:42]  * Subfusc loves how diffrent people do things in different ways and ends up confusing the new person
[14:43] <Deldeeric> ok.. I seem to still be having some issues, but with my lack of experience it's no suprise
[14:43] <Deldeeric> lol
[14:44] <Deldeeric> so for your example..
[14:44] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: just to make it clear, what technoid- is talking about is a completely separate technique than the one I showed you ;)
[14:44] <Deldeeric> i understand his example requires me to make a script file and run it with a pipe
[14:45] <Deldeeric> ls *.html | <then call the script>
[14:45] <Subfusc> correct
[14:45] <Deldeeric> but your option seems a little easier if it would work
[14:45] <Subfusc> its a for loop
[14:45] <Deldeeric> sed -n '51,52p' ${} > ${}.out;
[14:46] <Subfusc> I can generalize it as such:
[14:46] <Subfusc> for file in ${PATHNAME}; do ${SOMETHING}; done
[14:47] <Deldeeric> done is a part of it?
[14:47] <Subfusc> yes
[14:47] <Subfusc> its to tell the script that this is where the for loop ends
[14:47] <Subfusc> ;)
[14:47] <Deldeeric> ok.
[14:47] <Deldeeric> I thought you were like, BAM!, DONE!
[14:48] <Deldeeric> next
[14:48] <Subfusc> Hehe, sorry for the confusion :)
[14:48] <Subfusc> loops in bash are always ended by done ;)
[14:48] <Deldeeric> im assuming the do at the beginning is a part as well then
[14:48] <Deldeeric> do sed -n '51,52p' ${file} > ${file}.out; done
[14:48] <Subfusc> yepp
[14:49] <Deldeeric> jeeeesus alright
[14:49] <Deldeeric> I was totally botching the whole deal
[14:49] <Subfusc> the whole thing is the following line, without modification:
[14:49] <Subfusc> for file in *.*; do ${sed command} ${file} > ${file}.out; done
[14:49] <Deldeeric> OK OK!!
[14:49] <Deldeeric> let me give it a go
[14:49] <Deldeeric> thanks man
[14:51] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: tell me if you got it working, so I don't have to wonder :)
[14:52] <Deldeeric> i will give me a sec, I'm glad you're concerned though
[14:53] <Deldeeric> this is what i've done exactly, let me run it passed you. the error will follow
[14:53] <Deldeeric> for file in *.*; do ${sed -n '51,52p'} ${*.html} > ${category.txt}.out; done
[14:53] <Deldeeric> bash: ${sed -n '51,52p'}: bad substitution
[14:54] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: without the ${} around
[14:54] <Subfusc> :)
[14:54] <Deldeeric> ah, so remove that shit?
[14:54] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: yes, sorry for the confusion
[14:54] <tsimpson> Deldeeric: why *.*?
[14:54] <Subfusc> ${} is a variable in bash
[14:55] <Subfusc> so if you had given the sed command somewhere else it would have found it and substituted it
[14:55] <Subfusc> tsimpson: why not?
[14:55] <tsimpson> Subfusc: because some files do not have extensions
[14:56] <Subfusc> tsimpson: in his case they do
[14:56] <tsimpson> *.* means any "file that has an extension", not just "any file"
[14:56] <tsimpson> is that really the logic you're after?
[14:58] <Deldeeric> it seems to be working, not sure if its just taking a while since there are 55k+ files
[14:58] <Subfusc> tsimpson: the more specified, the better.
[14:58] <tsimpson> Subfusc: *.* is hardly specific though
[14:58] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: you can open another terminal and do ls *.out and you'll se if has done work on some files
[14:58] <tsimpson> the only reason I bring it up is that people often mean "*" when they write "*.*" (old DOS habits die hard)
[14:59] <Subfusc> tsimpson: yeah, Lisp does that too, but there *.* == * so
[15:00] <tsimpson> so being more specific buys you nothing ;)
[15:01] <Subfusc> it doesn't really matter now, but yes everyone should be aware that *.* != * in bash
[15:01] <Deldeeric> so, yeah.. shit didn't work
[15:02] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: what happened?
[15:02] <Deldeeric> it just sat there and did nothing, no error, nothing
[15:02] <Deldeeric> can't i do a -v somewhere to see progress?
[15:02] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: no, but if you want to see the result you just cat a file
[15:03] <Subfusc> e.g: cat product.aspx_sku=35005.html.out
[15:05] <Subfusc> head -n 52 product.aspx_sku=35005.html.out|tail -n 2
[15:05] <Subfusc> will give you just line 52 and 51
[15:07] <Subfusc> Deldeeric: FYI no output = the command was a success
[15:08] <Deldeeric> ok.. let me let this run real quick brb
[15:23] <israelmox> Salve salve
[15:33] <Deldeeric> this became alot more difficult than I thought it would be.
[16:00] <thelionroars> how do I get a script to run at startup? Is it sufficient just to put it in /etc/init.d/ ?
[16:02] <TheLordOfTime> thelionroars, /etc/init.d/ expects upstart scripts or init scripts, if you need a script that's neither of those to run at startup put it at the end of rc.local i think its called
[16:02] <thelionroars> great, just doing that now
[16:06] <thelionroars> thanks, my DNS update appears to be persistent now
[18:25] <hck> amo kubuntu!
[19:06] <lordchicken> hi
[19:39] <BluesKaj> !syslinux
[21:33] <bjrohan> KMPlayer won't play audio or video, I can get VLC toplay such. In Konversation I have my notfications linked to play an ogg file when my nick is mentioned, but it does not. How do I remedy this?
[21:48] <avihay> bjrohan: I suggest you run kmplayer from a terminal and see what error messages it spews out
[21:48] <bjrohan> ok
[21:48] <bjrohan> It isn't a KMplayer issue, unless that is also what konversation uses
[21:49] <bjrohan> Here is what I recived:
[21:49] <bjrohan> KGlobal::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work
[21:50] <bjrohan> and the player did not work :-)
[22:45] <m_tadeu> hi...where can I find the file libavcodec/avcodec.h?
[23:09] <bjrohan> bjrohan: hi
[23:10] <heoyea_> i
[23:11] <heoyea_> m_tadeu: libavcodec-dev
[23:11] <heoyea_> m_tadeu: next time use apt-file search libavcodec/avcodec.h
[23:12] <m_tadeu> heoyea_: ahh cool :)
[23:12] <heoyea_> happy compiling