[08:02] <frying_fish> so bruenig ideas?
[08:02] <meisam> i dun knowwwwwww
[08:02] <meisam> erUSU im sorry
[08:02] <fangorious> sara: is there a .gnutella (or some other appropriately named) folder in your home directory?
[08:02] <meisam> i just apt get
[08:02] <meisam> thats all
[08:02] <sara> it tells me sometimes to upgrade...how do i do that
[08:02] <bruenig> frying_fish, i haven't a clue, I was just trying to get you to ask your question so others good see it
[08:02] <erUSUL> meisam: sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.1*
[08:02] <bruenig> could*
[08:03] <meisam> with * ?
[08:03] <frying_fish> yeah cool, I know most don't end up asking clear things to start with
[08:03] <sara> yea there is
[08:03] <YogSothoth> sethk, oh yes thanks for the tip (ctrl+alt+f1)
[08:03] <erUSUL> to isnstall the server and the client and other stuff
[08:03] <nikosapi> Anybody here using thunar?
[08:03] <dr_willis> it pays to ask a good question.
[08:03] <sethk> YogSothoth, you can get back to where you were before using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:03] <dr_willis> nikosapi,  ive gotten where i really dislike that program.
[08:03] <snoops> would someone be able to explain to me the difference between flag prefixes - and --.. what's the difference? I thought -- was supposed to be for words, like --yes would be the flag yes, but -yes would be concatenating flag y e and s.
[08:04] <meisam> erUSUL i think its working
[08:04] <YogSothoth> sethk, maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will be able to detect and configure my dual screen?
[08:04] <meisam> i enterd the command with *, am i right?
[08:04] <fangorious> sara: i would try uninstalling gkt-gnutella, deleting your .gnutella directory (or just rename it first, if you prefer) and then reinstall the app
[08:04] <frying_fish> am thinking I may just re-install this system, or install edgy
[08:04] <nikosapi> well, have you had a problem when you open it and 2 windowss open?
[08:04] <sara> i already tired
[08:04] <bruenig> snoops, generally I would say that is correct
[08:04] <sethk> YogSothoth, give it a try.  at the least it will get back your single screen
[08:04] <erUSUL> snoops: '-' short switches (one letter) '--' long ones (sometimes called gnu style ones)
[08:05] <meisam> sara , it seemed iranian...im sorry if asked
[08:05] <fangorious> sara: did you install it from the ubuntu repos?
[08:05] <dr_willis> sara,  create a new User - and see if theproblem also happens with them.
[08:05] <sara> it does..i tired it on another user
[08:05] <sara> im not iranian
[08:06] <snoops> bruenig, erUSUL thanks.. it's just I keep coming across applications which don't follow that, and allow for -yes meaning the long flag yes, not y e and s.
[08:06] <bobovski> sethk: my ssh connection, which has always been reliable, just times out. consistently
[08:06] <YogSothoth> sethk, thanks
[08:06] <erUSUL> snoops: no problem
[08:07] <deltab> snoops: each program can choose what option processing to do, so they can vary
[08:07] <meisam> erUSUL im sorry dude does it upgrade it fully?
[08:07] <sara> ok well its telling me to upgrade bc the version is too ancient...and i ran an upgrade in the term. and it says the same thing again
[08:07] <meisam> i mean everything ?
[08:07] <fangorious> sara: how does it tell you to upgrade if launching it crashes even the terminal?
[08:08] <bobovski> sethk: update, my ISP just gave me a couple military dns addys to use instead :)
[08:08] <sara> sometimes it does and sometimes it crashes
[08:08] <fangorious> sara: did you install it from the ubuntu repos, or download it directly from the gtk-gnutella website?
[08:09] <bobovski> back later. Thanks aga in for the help, sethk
[08:09] <sara> from synapatic
[08:09] <bruenig> synaptic=repos
[08:10] <sara> ok thanks!
[08:10] <[b] urk> anyone here use rxvt with shading?
[08:10] <fangorious> bruenig: unless you add a non-ubuntu repo to your sources.list
[08:10] <haasteem> [b] urk: i use rxvt
[08:10] <bruenig> fangurious, does that would still show in synaptic but I guess you did specify ubuntu repo and not just repo generally
[08:10] <sethk> bobslaede, np
[08:10] <[b] urk> with shading?
[08:11] <bruenig> -does
[08:11] <nixternal> ompaul: ping?
[08:11] <dr_willis> you meanr xvt with the fake background transparency?
[08:11] <haasteem> [b] urk: what do you mean with "shading"?
[08:11] <ompaul> nixternal, pong
[08:12] <nixternal> hey
[08:12] <fangorious> sara: well, i'm really not familiar with that app, so i'm pretty much at the limit of what i can suggest for it. do they have their own IRC channel or support forum? Also, have you tried posting on ubuntuforums.org?
[08:12] <[b] urk> haasteem, something that has to do with transparency
[08:12] <sara> ok thanks
[08:12] <nixternal> kyja's client had an autohighlighter malfunction that caused his konvo to spam
[08:12] <haasteem> i have transparency
[08:12] <bruenig> sara, why not try another gnutella app if that is all you need
[08:12] <dr_willis> haasteem,  me also
[08:12] <nixternal> i can confirm his problem, that he had it setup wrong
[08:12] <sara> i dont know how!
[08:12] <ompaul> nixternal, k
[08:12] <nixternal> thanks ompaul!
[08:13] <sara> i just need something i can Dl music from and thats it
[08:13] <sara> hah
[08:13] <dr_willis> !p2p
[08:13] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[08:13] <ompaul>  nixternal on another subject I sent u a pm :)
[08:13] <bruenig> sara, that seems to be the only one in the repos that has a gui
[08:13] <dr_willis> there ya go sara
[08:13] <fangorious> sara, search synaptic for 'gnutella' and it will show you all packages that have gnutella in the description
[08:13] <bruenig> sara, that is illegal
[08:13] <sara> yeah
[08:13] <bruenig> i cannot morally continue with helping
[08:13] <haasteem> [b] urk: urxvt -tr -bg black -fg white , that is the command i use
[08:13] <fangorious> bruenig: not automatically, some artists give away free downloads
[08:14] <[b] urk> haasteem, but you dont use the -sh option that starts shading
[08:14] <dr_willis> p2p - Oh the Humanity!
[08:14] <meisam> erUSUL friend, do i need to install apache web server or php or something fot postgresql?
[08:14] <haasteem> [b] urk: ahhh, apparently not
[08:14] <bruenig> all music I have on my computer has been pirated as well as all the apps I had before i switched from windows
[08:14] <shawnr_> Anyone know how i can get anjuta configured to compile java source? it doesn't seem to be working with 'javac'
[08:15] <kyja> thank you and sorry about my highlighter.
[08:15] <sara> thanks everyone
[08:15] <meisam> guys can anybody tell me if ineed apache web server for postgresql?
[08:16] <_Sand_man_> meisam: no
[08:16] <shawnr_> anyone?
[08:16] <meisam> so how can i connect to the server?
[08:17] <_Sand_man_> meisam: phppgadmin need apache
[08:17] <meisam> aha
[08:17] <bruenig> shawnr_, perhaps your java path is not specified correctly, I don't know how to change that but that seems to be a common issue
[08:17] <dr_willis> often the altertives to java needs to be confgured
[08:17] <meisam> _Sand_man so for using postgres i need to have pgadmin?
[08:17] <meisam> yes?
[08:18] <Zambezi> I have big problems now. I need a captureapplication within 15 minutes. Isn't there somethingelse than MythTV?
[08:18] <shawnr_> bruenig, im so frustrated. i need this running for school.
[08:18] <Aphex_Twin> is it possible to launch an application from a console and close the console without closing the application?
[08:18] <sethk> shawnr_, when you do     type javac    at the command line, is it found?
[08:18] <mistraal> how do you get accented characters on windows share filenames to show correctly?
[08:18] <shawnr_> sethk, no
[08:18] <Aphex_Twin> like the "Run" option in Windows and KDE
[08:18] <feugan3333> Hi all. Anyone clued up with firewalls? I want to know if it is safe to allow connections from the loopback address?
[08:18] <Aphex_Twin> is there a "Run" option for GNOME ?
[08:18] <_Sand_man_> meisam, pgadmin3 is a client for postgresql...
[08:18] <sethk> shawnr_, then it is either (1) javac isn't installed or (2) the execution search path doesn't include the directory where javac lives
[08:18] <bruenig> Aphex_Twin, hit alt + f2
[08:18] <_Sand_man_> good client
[08:18] <meisam> _Sand_man i need an interface...is that so?
[08:18] <xnszxdotnet> is setup of mac os x, winxp, ubuntu easy to do?
[08:18] <bbrazil> feugan3333: unles you've got really weird requirement, you always want to allow those
[08:19] <Aphex_Twin> bruenig: anything besides that?
[08:19] <shawnr_> sethk, i have eclipse installed and it can compile just fine. but i tried like 5 other ide's and none of them will work
[08:19] <bruenig> Aphex_twin what are you wanting specifically
[08:19] <Aphex_Twin> bruenig: oh, that works
[08:19] <bruenig> ok
[08:19] <Aphex_Twin> bruenig: thanks for the tip
[08:19] <_Sand_man_> meisam, pgadmin3 is a great interface... if you prefer a web interface, use phppgadmin
[08:19] <sethk> shawnr_, then you need to add the directory where javac lives to the execution search path, or make a link in, say, /usr/bin.  Do you know what directory javac is in?
[08:20] <dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:20] <shawnr_> sethk, no how can i find it?
[08:20] <bruenig> whereis javac?
[08:20] <sethk> shawnr_, try   locate javac
[08:20] <dr_willis> sethk,  ive seen a lot of java problems fixed lately with  -->  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:20] <feugan3333> bbrazil: So if I receive a packet on eth0 with a source address of <IP_ADDRESS> (spoofed), will it be allowed through?
[08:20] <sethk> shawnr_, if that doesn't find it, you can use the find command, but locate is much quicker and will find it unless it was added in the last day.
[08:21] <sethk> dr_willis, possibly, but I don't know what that does, so I don't know if it's relevant to this problem.
[08:21] <bbrazil> feugan3333: no, I mean that anything originating on the 'lo' interface is safe
[08:21] <bbrazil> feugan3333: see rp_filter
[08:21] <sethk> shawnr_, my guess would be /usr/local/bin/javac, but that's only a guess.
[08:22] <dr_willis> sethk,  i missed half  his problem :P  but  getting java going has been askeed a lot in #kubuntu - and it seems mainly they are using the  gcc java  and need to run that uldate-alternatove command to run the real SUN java
[08:22] <sethk> dr_willis, ok, but that's a situation where there are two javac processes.  He is not finding either.
[08:23] <dr_willis> sethk,  ahh.. now that is a new one.
[08:23] <sethk> dr_willis, if you install from sun's web site, and don't add the directory where javac lives, you'll get that behavior.
[08:23] <feugan3333> bbrazil: Thanks for your help, rp_filter is the spoofing protection in the kernel, right? Where would I find the documentation?
[08:24] <dr_willis> sethk,  heh. :P  reading at that url  - it has ooodles of info... Moe then i can handle. :) i just apt-get isntalled it and ran sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:24] <shawnr_> sethk, i did a search, the only thing i found was this: /usr/share/vim/vim64/compiler/javac.vim
[08:24] <werdna_>  [ Large Earthquake:]  M 5.0, New Britain region, Papua New Guinea http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/usrqav.php
[08:24] <bbrazil> feugan3333: no sure, try 'man proc'
[08:25] <bbrazil> feugan3333: *not
[08:25] <bbrazil> feugan3333: rp_filter will work fine as long as you have symmetric routing
[08:25] <sethk> shawnr_, that's not what you need
[08:25] <popupman> can anyone help me ><. first time using linux and cant figure out hwo to install the ati drivers
[08:26] <snoops> are you following a guide popupman?
[08:26] <shawnr_> sethk, thats all the search found for 'javac'
[08:26] <feugan3333> bbrazil: Thanks
[08:26] <sethk> shawnr_, ok, eclipse then is using a java compiler with a different name
[08:26] <eku> hi,  small problem : i do "sudo startx -- :1 -layout twinview" to get another x server to use tv ... when i kill the :1, the :0 display isn't recognized anymore
[08:26] <popupman>  i was trying and it said it installed right.. but OpenGL stil isnt working
[08:26] <sethk> shawnr_, you need to install sun's java/linux sdk.
[08:26] <digitalhav0c> i can't get my ati 9000igp working in ubuntu
[08:26] <sethk> shawnr_, dr_willis what's the way to install sun's java using apt-get?
[08:27] <digitalhav0c> with 3d accelaration
[08:27] <digitalhav0c> :(
[08:27] <shawnr_> sethk, i did already... i THINK
[08:27] <sethk> shawnr_, if you did, then javac would be there.
[08:27] <sethk> shawnr_, possibly you didn't install the "dev" part?
[08:27] <shawnr_> maybe not
[08:27] <popupman> snoops, i thought i had it right but OpenGL isnt working. so i dont think i did it right :(
[08:27] <Choclo> hi all
[08:27] <snoops> popupman if you go in terminal "glxinfo | grep -i rendering" does it say direct rendering is enabled?
[08:28] <sethk> shawnr_, start synaptic, and do a search for java dev (java space dev)
[08:28] <popupman> snoops, let me check
[08:28] <sethk> walking the dog, brb, hopefully.
[08:28] <shawnr_> sethl, wait i think i just installed the JRE
[08:28] <shawnr_> sethk, wait i think i just installed the JRE
[08:28] <sethk> shawnr_, ok, then that explains it
[08:28] <popupman> snoops, it says that it is not enabled
[08:28] <Choclo> anyone knows where can I configure grub?=
[08:29] <sethk> shawnr_, install the entire sdk.  the jre includes java, but not javac
[08:29] <Scorpmoon> lamego, in network/interfaces, do I need to type auto eth0:1 aswell when I do 2 IP's ?
[08:29] <sethk> Choclo, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:29] <exs> Hey guys, I have this idea for ubuntu, but it's not software relaed or anything, it's on the financial side of things.
[08:29] <Scorpmoon> or can I leave that out
[08:29] <exs> related*
[08:29] <shawnr_> sethk, from synaptic?
[08:29] <snoops> popupman okay.. try this guide
[08:29] <iter> exs: spill it
[08:29] <snoops> popupman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-5ead174a0b3294527486cd4d71ded66b40003f25
[08:29] <popupman> thanks snoops
[08:29] <lamego> minerale, Scorpmoon yes you do, it is just as it is a different eth device
[08:29] <sethk> shawnr_, that's the easiest way, yes
[08:29] <Scorpmoon> ok
[08:30] <exs> iter:  Well, I've wrote it up in open office, so I'm not going to put it here. I was looking for a section o nthe forums but I see no appropriate category to put it in
[08:31] <PhUrl> PhUrl: how can i calm apt down about packages i imported from debian into ubuntu, it want a specifc version of the compiler. but i dont need it. so i want to tell apt to stop complaining. how can i do that? please? :)
[08:31] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  has to be one of the BEST done wiki pages i have seen for Ubuntu/Kubuntu in a LONG time.
[08:31] <dr_willis> :P
[08:31] <PhUrl>  openmpi-bin: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[08:31] <PhUrl>                Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[08:32] <unio> how do i switch to root? i tried sudo root and su root, multiple times, but authentication is denied. i know it's the right password (or, atleast, the password I think it is -- there's not a default pass is there?), unless i'm capable of making 50 typos in a row (which I'm not :P)
[08:32] <feugan3333> bbrazil: I don't think rp_filter is enabled by default.
[08:32] <iter> unio: sudo -s
[08:32] <unio> ah, thanks =D
[08:32] <iter> you can also do sudo bash of course
[08:33] <dr_willis> sudo hot-babe
[08:33] <unio> dr_willis: lol
[08:33] <dr_willis> unio,  but thats not a standard package now a days, :(
[08:34] <FantasticFoo> after trying to install compiz, i get some kinda "kernel panic" crap at bootup
[08:34] <FantasticFoo> anyone know how i can restore my system to an earlier state?
[08:34] <feugan3333> How did you know I have a hot-babe program?
[08:34] <iter> wife 1.0
[08:34] <Ropechoborra> !paste
[08:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:35] <eku> hi,  small problem : i do "sudo startx -- :1 -layout twinview" to get another x server to use tv ... when i kill the :1, the :0 display isn't recognized anymore
[08:36] <poopsock> Anyone have a fast download link for the 6.06 alternate iso for amd 64?
[08:36] <dravas> I had to reinstall Ubuntu to dual Boot it eith Windows and now some things say in Add/remove that they may not support my system's arcitecture
[08:37] <dravas> ghelp
[08:37] <poopsock> in europe then :)
[08:37] <unio> :O there's a "science" package! hallejuah! (or however it's spelled) /me loves ubuntu forever and ever :)
[08:37] <dravas> I had to reinstall Ubuntu to dual Boot it eith Windows and now some things say in Add/remove that they may not support my system's arcitecture, like Zsnes
[08:37] <halorgium> poopsock: have you looked on the ubuntu site?  I think it depends on how xp closes/reboots/crashes
[08:40] <dr_willis> BrokenSegue,  never seen the hd get messed up hpwever.
[08:41] <dravas> Someone wanna help me
[08:41] <dravas> I had to reinstall Ubuntu to dual Boot it eith Windows and now some things say in Add/remove that they may not support my system's arcitecture, like Zsnes
[08:41] <BrokenSegue> dr willis:exactly, whenever xp crashes i get this problem (sadly xp crashes a lot)
[08:41] <CrazyDoode>  i just got the ati installer to actually build the debs for my ubunutu system and it looks like it just dumped them in the same dir as the .run is located.. not being a true deb head, i'm not sure what to do next..
[08:41] <dr_willis> BrokenSegue,  yep. :(
[08:41] <BrokenSegue> dr willis:alright, thanks for the advice
[08:41] <dr_willis> dravas,  you installed the 64bit ubuntu?
[08:41] <dravas> No
[08:41] <dravas> 32
[08:41] <dr_willis> odd.. zsnes should work.
[08:41] <dravas> I dont have a 64 bit processor
[08:41] <blocky> can someone tell me how to resize my root partition
[08:42] <dr_willis> just install the thing fromthe shell. :)
[08:42] <CrazyDoode> blocky, from the live cd, but it can foobar it.
[08:42] <dravas> It just says for Java and like the SNES emus that my system arcitecture isnt supported
[08:42] <blocky> how so?
[08:42] <CrazyDoode> how so .. from the livecd or foobar?
[08:42] <blocky> foobar
[08:42] <dravas> and I had them on a previous install
[08:43] <CrazyDoode> render existing filesystem unreadable.
[08:43] <blocky> :|
[08:43] <blocky> is that if i fuck it up
[08:43] <blocky> or is that a possibility either way
[08:43] <CrazyDoode> it's just in the numbers.
[08:43] <blocky> btw its my home partition not the root
[08:44] <blocky> my mistake
[08:44] <CrazyDoode> whenever you resize, the potential is there.
[08:44] <blocky> i have a 250gb drive split into halves
[08:44] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having problem with the battery running time with thinkpad r52. it looks like it does not go for more than 1.5 hours, although the laptop is fairly new. Is there something that I should do in dapper?
[08:44] <blocky> one for winxp and one for /home on reiserfs
[08:45] <blocky> and i want to nuke the xp and give the whole drive to /home
[08:45] <dr_willis> resizing a reiserfs can be an issue i hear
[08:45] <snoops> I'm looking for an application which would allow me to do complex math equations and have it actually spit out answers - rather than getting overflows and such because of the large numbers I'm dealing with. Could someone recommend an app for that?
[08:45] <blocky> D:
[08:45] <blocky> would it be safer to copy the whole thing to an xp box over SAMBA, reformat the drive, and copy it all back?
[08:46] <argument> what do i need to install to get PHP to work with apache etc?
[08:46] <argument> i installed the php5 "metapackage" but that really didn't do jack?
[08:46] <dr_willis> blocky,  or check out the mondo/mindi backup/restore system
[08:46] <halorgium> argument: libapache2-mod-php5
[08:46] <jrib> !lamp > argument
[08:46] <argument> halorgium, there we go :)
[08:46] <argument> halorgium, good thing that was soooo obvious :)
[08:47] <deltab> snoops: how complex
[08:47] <deltab> snoops: for arithmetic, you can use bc
[08:47] <mike1> how do I remove a program I installed via dpkg????  I installed the latest Kino and I need to revert
[08:48] <argument> nope
[08:48] <jrib> mike1: dpkg -r
[08:48] <argument> libapache2-mod-php5 is already installed
[08:48] <jrib> argument: did you enable the php5 module for apache?
[08:48] <snoops> deltab mainly arithmetic for the moment.. but really looking for something with a nice gui
[08:48] <blocky> dr_willis, would I have permission problems if i backed up and restored using an NTFS on XP over samba
[08:48] <argument> jrib, a2enmod php ?
[08:49] <jrib> argument: a2enmod php5
[08:49] <deltab> snoops: there are packages such as Octave
[08:49] <dr_willis> blocky,  i am betting yes.
[08:49] <markus_df> yae galera!
[08:49] <blocky> argh
[08:49] <mike1> jrib: doesn't work
[08:49] <shawnr_> sethk, there are a few options... any one over the other
[08:49] <argument> "module is already enabled!" so says the output
[08:49] <porcho> does the cherrypy pkg available via apt-get include the python modules?
[08:49] <blocky> has anyone here had issues resizing reiserfs before?
[08:49] <jrib> mike1: what doesn't work?
[08:49] <snoops> isn't octave also a cli app deltab?
[08:49] <deltab> oh, yes
[08:50] <deltab> (apparently)
[08:50] <jrib> argument: right now your browser is just downloading php files right?
[08:50] <stray_77> argument, check http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p6
[08:50] <lostinc> I get errors when I run synaptic. After it installs the packages it tells me the following:: E: clvm: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[08:50] <lostinc> E: redhat-cluster-suite: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[08:50] <lostinc> Anyone have any idea how to fix it so I dont get this error?
[08:50] <mike1> jrib: I rN BOTH -R AND --PURGE AND kINO 9 STILL RUNS..
[08:50] <halorgium> snoops: bc
[08:50] <mike1> sorry about the caps
[08:51] <snoops> deltab I know there are large products to do all this stuff - but generally need to pay for them and being closed source..
[08:51] <contro> !ru
[08:51] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[08:51] <halorgium> arbitrary precision calculator
[08:51] <jrib> mike1: you did 'dpkg -r kino' ?
[08:51] <mike1> jrib: yes
[08:51] <sethk> snoops, there is some free software that does it.  I forget the name at the moment but google should find it for you.
[08:52] <jrib> mike1: did it return any output?
[08:52] <mike1> jrib: it says "ignoring request to remove kino not installed"
[08:53] <mike1> jrib: it still runs
[08:53] <jrib> mike1: dpkg -l '*kino*' | grep '^ii'
[08:53] <deltab> snoops: there's a number of mathematics packages in ubuntu
[08:54] <deltab> you can install education-mathematics to install them, or find the individual ones
[08:54] <deltab> I don't know any of them, sorry
[08:54] <mike1> jrib: that ran but did nothing kino still runs?  wierd???
[08:54] <jrib> mike1: well it should list installed packages that match kino, did it return anything?
[08:54] <snoops> deltab okay I'll try the meta package and play around with what's there
[08:54] <argument> oh well, that was just my own retardedness with permissions, thx tho jrib and halorgium...  now i know a bit more about Ubuntu LAMP :)
[08:54] <snoops> thanks
[08:55] <mike1> sudo dpkg -l kino* shows nothing, if I try to reinstall kino 8.1 via synaptic it still runs 9
[08:55] <blocky> is it possible to stream the output of tar to a remote samba share?
[08:55] <heyjoe52> how can i remove a file from a directory and place it in another one through my terminal?
[08:55] <deltab> snoops: also http://freshmeat.net/browse/98/
[08:56] <dr_willis> heyjoe52,  the 'mv' command is for move
[08:56] <stefg> heyjoe52: man mv
[08:56] <jrib> mike1: can you run the exact command like this:  dpkg -l '*kino*' | grep '^ii'
[08:56] <jrib> mike1: or do you remember the name of the deb you installed?
[08:56] <blocky> dr_willis, tar files will retain directory hierarchy and permissions, correct?
[08:57] <deltab> blocky: right
[08:57] <sethk> blocky, mostly.  for fully, use --preserve
[08:57] <dr_willis> blocky,  well for a ntfs partition - i dont think sp
[08:57] <blocky> why not?
[08:57] <jrib> mike1: actually, just do 'dpkg -S $(which kino)'  that should get us the answer too, without the quotes
[08:57] <tuxedup> I dont suppose anyone has the tango icon theme for kde do they.  I tried to do it my self but it complained about imagemick
[08:58] <deltab> oh, ntfs
[08:58] <blocky> no
[08:58] <tuxedup> imagemagick*
[08:58] <contro> help me
[08:58] <heyjoe52> ok can i get an example on how my command would look like using the mv file?
[08:58] <blocky> I want to tar my home directory, and then copy the single tar file to an ntfs partition
[08:58] <dr_willis> mv foo bar
[08:58] <sethk> blocky, that's ok
[08:58] <deltab> heyjoe52: mv olddir/name newdir/
[08:58] <dr_willis> google for some shell tutoruals :)
[08:58] <sethk> blocky, he meant if you tar up the ntfs directory you might not get what you are expecting
[08:58] <mike1> sudoijrib: I ran it your way, my way and I used the exact package name (from the waste basket) no luck.... ? what to do
[08:58] <stefg> !fuse
[08:58] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:58] <blocky> gotcha
[08:58] <sethk> blocky, but storing the tar file in ntfs is not a problem
[08:58] <heyjoe52> thanks, i'll try that!
[08:59] <jrib> mike1: actually, just do 'dpkg -S $(which kino)'  that should get us the answer too, without the quotes
[08:59] <blocky> so I just gotta figure out how to mount the samba share into my regular filesystem
[08:59] <blocky> tar doesnt support samba i assume
[08:59] <blocky> lol
[09:00] <blocky> i mean as an output heh
[09:00] <stefg> !info smbfs
[09:00] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[09:00] <blocky> makes less and less sense as i think about it
[09:00] <blocky> thanks
[09:00] <mike1> jrib: dpkg -S..... says "/usr/local/bin/kino not found"
[09:00] <halorgium> heh, tar zcf foo.tar.gz cifs://joey/files/ :P
[09:00] <dr_willis> mondo/mindi can backup a whole partition at a time. :P
[09:00] <blocky> cifs?
[09:00] <dr_willis> halorgium,  or use that FUSE to mount the samba shares.. or heck - just MOUNT them. :P
[09:01] <Aagni> hello all
[09:01] <blocky> dr_willis, but can it do it over samba
[09:01] <blocky> cause thats really my only option
[09:01] <blocky> i dont even have a dvd burner
[09:01] <jrib> mike1: you said you installed through a deb right, you didn't manually compile to install it?
[09:01] <dr_willis> a mounted samba share - is just another directory
[09:01] <halorgium> dr_willis: the thing that i typed doesn't work, i was dreaming :)
[09:01] <dr_willis> thats thejoy of linuc
[09:01] <dr_willis> thats the joy of linux
[09:01] <Aagni> i was trying to enable indic input support on my box ..
[09:01] <Aagni> for hindi/marathi
[09:02] <mike1> jrib: opps... I compiled it
[09:02] <Rawplayer> anyone in here used raid during a server install?
[09:02] <blocky> dr_willis, why is mondo better than tar?
[09:02] <jrib> mike1: ok, did you just use the 'make install' command to install it?
[09:03] <mike1> jrib: yes... I forgot that makes a big diff.    That /might/ work.  In the future if you must compile, consider using checkinstall
[09:04] <jrib> mike1: what do you mean by "killed the directories", what directories?
[09:04] <blocky> what sort of compression ratio does bzip2 or gzip provide
[09:04] <eobanb> it depends on what you're compressing, blocky.
[09:05] <mike1> cd D*
[09:05] <blocky> would the tradeoff in compression time be made up in transfer time over my LAN
[09:05] <blocky> the biggest component, size wise, is video and mp3s
[09:05] <gleesond> anyone know if there is a good tool for getting data off a cd... the buildt in gnome tool is not very robust
[09:05] <eobanb> blocky, probably not.
[09:05] <acon> what rss readers do you recomend=
[09:05] <eobanb> blocky, it's not worth it, especially with already-compressed media like mp3.
[09:06] <blocky> im gonna tar my home directory
[09:06] <dr_willis> blocky,  its a  backup/restore system that is designed to do differnet things. :P depends on youyr needs
[09:06] <mike1> jrib: I deleted the directories that I complied kino in on my desktop.  the program resides somewhere else after complie I think in a .hidden home folder.  I'm looking
[09:06] <blocky> yea dr_willis i really only need to do this one time
[09:06] <blocky> im nuking my xp partition and giving a full 250gb to /home
[09:06] <blocky> :D
[09:06] <eobanb> blocky, what's the speed of your network?
[09:07] <lyy> anyone have a dell m1210 xps system?
[09:07] <dr_willis> blocky,  nuke to me implies DELETE - not backup
[09:07] <dr_willis> :P
[09:07] <blocky> this is correct
[09:07] <FarrisG> font size="3">I have a set of backup scripts I've been using for over a year, with great results. I recently moved the whole process over to a different, nearly-identical box, and I'm seeing a huge decrease in performance. An incremental backup that used to take a couple of hours is now going on hour 48 and not even half-finished. Network utilization is not even remotely saturated, CPU is low, RAM is 10% utilized. But the load average on the box runni
[09:07] <blocky> :-)
[09:07] <argument> does .htaccess need specific permissions? i've got it as 644 right now? and how can i check for the existence/status of mod_rewrite (i'm pretty sure it's enabled)
[09:07] <dato> i cant see videos or multimedia files in the explorer , what must i do?
[09:07] <blocky> eobanb, 100mbs
[09:07] <eobanb> dr_willis, he's going to resize /home, therefore he wants to back it up
[09:07] <eobanb> blocky, don't bother gzipping or bzipping anything.  seriously.
[09:08] <eobanb> especially not mp3s
[09:08] <blocky> yea im just gonna tar
[09:08] <eobanb> you are going to save virtually no space
[09:08] <blocky> i got smbfs working now
[09:08] <blocky> so i just have to transfer 90gb of data
[09:08] <blocky> heh
[09:09] <dato> i cant see videos or multimedia files in the explorer , what must i do?
[09:09] <mike1> jrib: any clue on how I kill this kino install?
[09:09] <^Anna^> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[09:09] <varsendaggr> !netsplit
[09:09] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:09] <nalioth> lovely
[09:09] <noclip> hehe
[09:10] <Kragnerac> Ziggy.
[09:10] <noclip> anyway.... hi all! i've got a question about apt-get. you know how synaptic gives you a nice "history" of installed, upgraded, and removed software packages? (how) can i get the same thing with apt-get?
[09:10] <eobanb> varsendaggr, that was not a netsplit, that was the dcc send exploit
[09:10] <eobanb> !ops
[09:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:10] <dr_willis> and you just did it again!
[09:10] <dr_willis> :P
[09:10] <varsendaggr> ohhh
[09:10] <nalioth> eobanb: yes yes yes, the culprit has been k-lined (Read the /quits )
[09:10] <^Anna^ThaKILLA> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[09:11] <eobanb> oy vey
[09:11] <varsendaggr> what does klined mean?
[09:11] <dr_willis> Oi-Vey!
[09:11] <nalioth> varsendaggr: means banned from the network
[09:11] <grayman> isnt that gline?
[09:11] <varsendaggr> forever?
[09:11] <grayman> kline is only from one server
[09:12] <nalioth> grayman: they propogate
[09:12] <grayman> ah
[09:12] <^Anna^ThaKILLA> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[09:12] <crimsun> argh
[09:12] <eobanb> grayman, freenode doesn't work like most IRC networks...it's all centrally-managed
[09:12] <Sikon> how do I disable the touchpad on a laptop?
[09:12] <grayman> yeah i see
[09:12] <Shinzetsu> Hi guys, im trying to install something using a howto and it says make a file with this code: how do I go about doing it? gedit? nano?
[09:13] <Aagni> Shinzetsu: use whatevers your favourite. i would use Vi
[09:13] <eobanb> install something, a file, with a code.... Shinzetsu, could you be any LESS specific
[09:14] <unio> i use pico, Shinzetsu, it's noob-friendly
[09:14] <david_> Sikon do your mouse freeze up
[09:14] <Shinzetsu> sorry
[09:14] <HanzZ> ok.. I have one thing... Why Ubuntu writes Grub on /dev/hda without any questions?
[09:14] <UbuntuFan> hi
[09:14] <UbuntuFan> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[09:15] <stray_77> hanzz, so it can boot
[09:15] <borelia> bootloader needs to be on the first partiton on system drive
[09:15] <noclip> (...na-naa-nanananana-naaaaa...)
[09:15] <w30> Shinzetsu, you want a plain text editor. gedit will work fine, stay away from something like office suites
[09:16] <HanzZ> stray_77: when i install on /dev/hdb... :)
[09:16] <_gpg_> i want to set up a general usega repositorie, able to be acceded by every one using the PC, where ca i put it ?
[09:16] <jatt> does anybody here got the .dmrc file has incorrect permissions problem when logging into gnome (dapper)?
[09:16] <haasteem> hi, i've been having problems with my sounds, and now it has (finally) become clear that the soundcard files were not installed, i.e. i miss a whole lot of stuff in /dev/snd (only timer is there). how or why could this have happened during an upgrade?
[09:16] <dato> i cant see videos or multimedia files in the explorer , what must i do?
[09:16] <haasteem> all the modules are loaded by the way
[09:17] <stray_77> yes hanzz, if it didnt install on /dev/hda, it wouldnt boot into ubuntu
[09:17] <HanzZ> stray_77: or i have /dev/hda and i install on /dev/sda... but ubuntu writes grub on /dev/hda...
[09:17] <eobanb> dato, can you rephrase your question
[09:17] <dato> :S
[09:18] <unio> dato: "explorer" as in web browser?
[09:18] <dato> yes
[09:18] <dato> mozilla
[09:18] <dato> firefox
[09:18] <unio> you need to install software to run those files
[09:19] <dato> what sofwatre?
[09:19] <dato> software*
[09:19] <w30> I need to change a partition label only, not format it. How can I do that? I changed it with Gparted from / to core3 but gparted won't let me change it back to "/".
[09:19] <stray_77> hanzz, what would you prefer to have happen?
[09:19] <cryptic^zazeem> #crypt1c
[09:20] <unio> dato; what type of files aren't playing? (ie., .swf, .wav?)
[09:20] <dato> i dont know
[09:20] <dato> i cant see videos
[09:20] <cryptic^zazeem> woops sorry didnt know it amsgs other servers
[09:20] <dato> or some multimedia pics
[09:20] <eobanb> !restricted
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <cryptic^zazeem> is there a way to get icensemble audio to mix?
[09:20] <unio> dato: do you know html?
[09:20] <HanzZ> stray_77: ask the user......
[09:20] <cryptic^zazeem> it steals my game sound when it is used for mic
[09:21] <dato> yes
[09:21] <eobanb> dato, please see the links above.
[09:21] <unio> CTRL + U (views the source in firefox), and check to see what the file extensions are for the multimedia that isn't playing.
[09:21] <HanzZ> stray_77: imho isn't good, when user install on /dev/sda and ubuntu rewrites MBR on /dev/hda...
[09:21] <dato> they are .swf
[09:21] <dato> eobanb,
[09:21] <nalioth> hi lilo
[09:21] <stray_77> hanzz, you can always restore your mbr and reinstall grub anywhere you like.
[09:22] <eobanb> ahoy lilo.
[09:22] <haasteem> hi, i've been having problems with my sounds, and now it has (finally) become clear that the soundcard files were not installed, i.e. i miss a whole lot of stuff in /dev/snd (only timer is there). how or why could this have happened during an upgrade?... all the modules are loaded by the way
[09:22] <stefg> !sound
[09:22] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:22] <unio> dato: you need a flash player then =)
[09:22] <eobanb> dato, the wiki link that ubotu said will help you with flash
[09:22] <dato> ok
[09:22] <dato> thanks mans
[09:22] <sethk> HanzZ, that's foolish.  there is only one mbr that matters, the one on /dev/hda
[09:22] <Aagni> dato: try this link http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[09:23] <elubie> Hi! I need some noob help. I have a new widescreen monitor and I need to change screen resolution. The one I need is not shown in the system->settings...
[09:23] <eobanb> !fixrez
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <eobanb> !fixres
[09:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <Aagni> dato: on the same page you should be able to find other stuff like installing support for wmv and other formats
[09:23] <stray_77> hanzz, what bootloader do you want to use?
[09:24] <eobanb> elubie, see that link.
[09:24] <elubie> eobannb: thks, checking the link
[09:24] <Corporal_Dirge> elubie, is it listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:25] <HanzZ> starkruzr: grub.. but on /dev/sda by default:)
[09:25] <stray_77> but then it wont boot
[09:25] <BSG75> hiya, setting up my wife's laptop so this is one of those things that just need to work... what works better for browsing the web .. totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin  or mozilla-mplayer .. any help will be much appreciated :)
[09:25] <sethk> HanzZ, that makes no sense at all
[09:26] <sethk> HanzZ, by that logic, if you install ubuntu on /dev/hdb1 you would use the mbr on /dev/hdb
[09:26] <Aagni> BSG75: the one with FF
[09:26] <sethk> HanzZ, which is obvious nonsense.  such an idea about sda is equally obviously nonsense
[09:26] <stray_77> you would need an app like bootpart to add your grub boot partition to ntldr's boot.ini
[09:26] <wasabi> You'd put the MBR on whichever hard drive your Bios expects it on.
[09:26] <unio> sorry, didn't realise closing Terminal would close x-chat too heh (i ran xchat-gnome from Terminal >_<)
[09:27] <wasabi> Usually the first one in the system.
[09:27] <wasabi> Regardless of where grub's install files or Ubuntu are.
[09:27] <sethk> wasabi, right, exactly
[09:27] <sethk> wasabi, and the fact that someone chooses sda as the ubuntu root partition drive changes nothing
[09:27] <_Cartman_> I have a Smart Link modem on my laptop. How can I make it work? (I do not have Internet on Ubuntu)
[09:27] <Marex> HanzZ, here?
[09:27] <Marex> hi all
[09:27] <BSG75> btw, thanks to whoever thought of having the alternate livecd.. my laptop couldn't install from the normal cd
[09:28] <three> is anyone here using Gaim 2.0 Beta 3?
[09:28] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to monitor a 3ware sata raid card?
[09:28] <HanzZ> sethk: it's another situation... whet you install ubuntu on /dev/sda, then bootloader will be on /dev/hda......
[09:28] <wasabi> DigitalNinja: With 3wares software, yes.
[09:28] <HanzZ> sethk: by default...
[09:28] <justin_> Hello, I am curious what filesystem Ubuntu/xubuntu - uses by default?
[09:28] <DigitalNinja> wasabi: How do I get that?
[09:29] <HanzZ> sethk: and this is wrong i think...
[09:29] <wasabi> DigitalNinja: One would assume from 3ware.
[09:29] <sethk> HanzZ, no, it isn't wrong
[09:29] <sethk> HanzZ, what you don't understand is that it is _not_ a different situation.
[09:29] <three> justin: what were you wnting to know
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> wasabi: I know that much but I couldn't find it on their website
[09:29] <MrKeuner> hi, I am having problem with the battery running time with thinkpad r52. it looks like it does not go for more than 1.5 hours, although the laptop is fairly new. Is there something that I should do in dapper?
[09:29] <sethk> HanzZ, the only  mbr that matters is the one the bios uses to boot the machine.
[09:29] <wasabi> DigitalNinja: it's under their software/drivers section.
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> wasabi: Thanks
[09:29] <justin_> three: What is the default filesystem that Ubuntu uses ? - EXT3?
[09:29] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know if there's a chat client that allows you to message IP addresses?
[09:29] <wasabi> Service ANd Support > Software
[09:30] <Marex> sethk, you can point bios to boot whereever you want
[09:30] <sethk> HanzZ, it makes no difference which piece of hardware you happen to choose to put anything on, be it linux or ubuntu or any other o/s
[09:30] <BSG75>  totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:30] <BSG75> E: Broken packages .. anyone know howto resolve this?
[09:30] <three> justin: yeah it uses ext3
[09:30] <sethk> Marex, that depends.  in general, that's not a true statement.
[09:30] <rancidpickles> MrKeuner, make sure laptop-mode-tools is enabled
[09:30] <sethk> Marex, some bios have the ability to choose some, but _not_ all, devices to boot.
[09:30] <ndee> hello there, is there something like spotlight from mac osx for ubuntu?
[09:30] <justin_> Alright
[09:30] <_Cartman_> does stand by and hibernation work on Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard (I want to buy that motherboard)?
[09:30] <wasabi> ndee: Beagle.
[09:30] <ndee> wasabi: cool, thx
[09:30] <Marex> sethk, but it's not ok to overwrite mbr on wrong disk
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, it's not the wrong disk
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, it's the right disk
[09:31] <Marex> hda != sda
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, I didn't say it was
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, I said sda is the wrong disk for installing the mbr, and hda is the correct disk for installing the mbr
[09:31] <Marex> sethk, if HanzZ is instaling system on sda and installer overwrites bootlaoder on hda than it's not ok
[09:31] <Marex> sethk, and what if there is no hda?
[09:31] <sethk> Marex, there is no difference in installing the mbr on hda after an install to hdb, or installing mbr to hda after an install to sda
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, you can choose not to install the bootloader.  but if you install it, there is only one place for it to go.
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, if the machine boots from sda, then sda is the correct disk.
[09:32] <Marex> sethk, that machine does
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, the point is that there is a default boot device, and that is the place to install onto the mbr.
[09:32] <Marex> sethk, then why is it written to hda?
[09:32] <Marex> isnt it a bit stupid?
[09:32] <sethk> Marex, because hda is the default boot device
[09:32] <wasabi> This argument is stupid now.
[09:33] <sethk> Marex, no, it's the correct thing to do.
[09:33] <MrKeuner> rancidpickles/ it is installed. Does that mean that it is already enabled?
[09:33] <pepsi> what makes some programs look different than others? is it because they use gtk1 or something? they look darker and blockier and just "older" in general
[09:33] <BSG75> anyone installed the totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin and know how to resolve the dependancy?
[09:33] <Marex> sethk, if you can boot from sda then why do you want to put bootloader on hda?
[09:33] <sethk> if it weren't the correct thing to do, then nobody would object to doing it.  :)
[09:33] <wasabi> pepsi: What programs?
[09:33] <Marex> sethk, what if there is no hda?
[09:33] <argument> wasabi, i am most certainly not retarded!
[09:33] <sethk> Marex, because it is the _default_ boot device
[09:33] <argument> :P
[09:33] <wasabi> argument: hahaha. nice name.
[09:33] <pepsi> wasabi, im using gnucash right now, but ive seen other programs that do it too
[09:33] <sethk> Marex, the correct place is the _default_ boot device
[09:33] <MrKeuner> !help
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[09:33] <Marex> correct place is sda
[09:33] <Marex> sethk,
[09:34] <stray_77> who wants to go into the bios every time you wanna boot into your other os?
[09:34] <sethk> Marex, no
[09:34] <wasabi> pepsi: gnucash uses gtk1, yes.
[09:34] <Marex> sda is default boot device
[09:34] <BSG75> pepsi: that's the joy of using gnome .. even though it has gotten a LOT better in standardizing it's looks
[09:34] <Marex> sethk, ^
[09:34] <pepsi> is there any way to customize how gtk1 stuff looks?
[09:34] <sethk> Marex, I've not seen a box with both hda and sda where sda is the default boot device.
[09:34] <wasabi> pepsi: sure, but it won't look much better.
[09:34] <sethk> Marex, and I'm skeptical whether any such thing exists.
[09:34] <rancidpickles> MrKeuner ...check /etc/laptop-mode/laptopmode.conf and change the settings to activate it
[09:34] <Marex> sethk, wanna visit me? :)
[09:34] <pepsi> for the most part, i just want to make the fonts smaller
[09:34] <Malachi> What's a good CD label maker for linux?
[09:34] <BSG75> pepsi: what wasabi said :)
[09:35] <sethk> Marex, only if you pay the carfare  :)
[09:35] <Marex> sethk, I have box - sata hdd and guess how kernel handles this stuff :)
[09:35] <HanzZ> sethk: my /dev/hda has 500MB and /dev/sda 80GB... where can i install ubuntu?
[09:35] <Marex> sethk, hda = cdrom
[09:35] <BSG75> anyone?? come on guys .. I have to get this done before my wife find out I broke her laptop :-P
[09:35] <jenda> sethk, Marex, how about Marex invites me for dinner and i testify? ;) Can't be too far.
[09:35] <pepsi> how can i change the default font size it uses?
[09:35] <sethk> HanzZ, you can install anywhere you like
[09:35] <argument> what group do i set to allow apache to access my folders/files? apache? apache2? www-data? www?
[09:35] <sethk> HanzZ, that has nothing to do with which boot sector should be modified
[09:35] <Marex> jenda, hehe ;)
[09:35] <tepus6> can i set a web page as the background in ubuntu?
[09:35] <stefg> !info gtk-theme-switch
[09:35] <ubotu> gtk-theme-switch: GTK+ theme switching utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.4 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 144 kB
[09:36] <sethk> Marex, if hda is a cdrom then nothing will be written to hda anyway.
[09:36] <bbrazil> argument: www-data, but usually you'd just leave it world-readable
[09:36] <Marex> sethk, and I have sata disk from which I normally boot
[09:36] <Marex> sda
[09:36] <argument> bbrazil, ummm, no 777 is evil
[09:36] <Marex> sethk, (I'm on debian)
[09:36] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a question
[09:36] <squidgy> Hi.  I have an HP laptop, and the function key combo that's supposed to direct output to an external monitor (Fn+F4) doesn't have any effect.  Is there a way to do this manually from the console?
[09:36] <argument> bbrazil, i'm talking write perms tho
[09:36] <bbrazil> argument: world-readable, not world-writable
[09:36] <Marex> sethk, then ... hda as default device is really bad idea
[09:36] <pepsi> stefg, thanks
[09:37] <zoidberg> i'm running Ubuntu Badger on a G3 Powerbook 333mhz 64 mbram with the FLUXBOX window manager
[09:37] <Marex> HanzZ, hmm ... hehe ... my palmz71 boots from something like sda too :D
[09:37] <bbrazil> argument: to be honset, when a webser is involved there isn't much different between 777 and 775
[09:37] <sethk> Marex, if the installer is going to have a default not based on device type, the vast majority of times hda will be the correct choice.  and you can, of course, override this.
[09:37] <jenda> HanzZ, Marex Czech #ubuntu takeover today? Why didn't anyone tell me? </ot>
[09:37] <zoidberg> i was wondering if i should upgrade to dapper on this machine?
[09:37] <sethk> zoidberg, no
[09:37] <stray_77> marex, comon now, we both know you cant write a mbr to your cdrom during an install
[09:37] <sethk> zoidberg, if you are wondering, then no
[09:37] <zoidberg> why is that sethk
[09:37] <sethk> zoidberg, it's still somewhat brittle.  wait a few more weeks
[09:37] <Marex> sethk, what about many ppl with sata drives ... they're still called sda by kernel
[09:38] <Marex> stray_77, I know that too
[09:38] <zoidberg> dapper?
[09:38] <zoidberg> its been out for several months now hasnt it?
[09:38] <eobanb> sethk, what are you talking about
[09:38] <zoidberg> or do u mean for powerpc?
[09:38] <Marex> stray_77, I just say that hda as default device is pretty bad choice
[09:38] <argument> *what*!!!? chgrp www-data templates_c/ ... chgrp: changing group of `templates_c/': Operation not permitted
[09:38] <Marex> or ... hda as device with bootloader
[09:38] <argument> wtf?
[09:38] <sethk> zoidberg,  it always amazes me that, after several hours of person after person having upgrade problems, everyone is surprised by advice to not upgrade yet.
[09:38] <argument> i am the owner and group of the folder currently, why can't i change the group?
[09:39] <Marex> stray_77, you can install on anything you want ... and if your bios supports it you can boot from it
[09:39] <eobanb> sethk, i believe you are confusing dapper and edgy
[09:39] <Marex> hda and sda are most common today
[09:39] <bbrazil> argument: you have to be a member of a group to change a file to that group
[09:39] <sethk> eobanb, no, not at all
[09:39] <MrKeuner> Marex/ check super folder properties
[09:39] <MrKeuner> Marex/ parent folder I mean
[09:39] <sethk> eobanb, I must have talked to 200 people dapper upgrade problems in the last couple of weeks.
[09:39] <BSG75> any advice on howto install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin? :)
[09:39] <squidgy> Does anyone know how to manually direct output to an external monitor on a laptop?  The only way to do it now is to restart X with the monitor plugged in.
[09:39] <sethk> eobanb, for a production system, it is absolutely too early.  for playing around, it's ok
[09:40] <argument> bbrazil, ahhhh
[09:40] <argument> groupadd -a or something right?
[09:40] <Marex> MrKeuner, how do you mean?
[09:40] <bbrazil> argument: useradd user group iirc
[09:40] <stray_77> squidgy, either that or some mysterious key combo to activate it
[09:40] <bbrazil> argument: if it's a one off, just use sudo+chgrp
[09:40] <eobanb> sethk, i doubt a 333 MHz machine with 64 MB of RAM is being used for production of anything really
[09:40] <Corporal_Dirge> squidgy, set it up in xorg.conf
[09:40] <sethk> groupadd is to add a new group to the system
[09:41] <flo__> can someone help me install vmware-olayer? apt-get install gives me thiss error dpkg: errore processando /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-player_1.0.1-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:41] <sethk> eobanb, by production we mean deployed in a critical area, not what you apparently assumed.
[09:41] <zoidberg> you're right eobanb
[09:41] <bbrazil> argument: *adduser
[09:41] <three> BSG75: ive never installed that one, but I know the Mplayer one works very well, the easiest wy I think to get it is to get Automtix (getautomatix.com)
[09:41] <MrKeuner> Marex/ nevermind I was aiming someone else
[09:41] <argument> derm... useradd user group didn't work
[09:41] <linkslice> how do i burn an iso with cdrecord?
[09:41] <Marex> MrKeuner, np :)
[09:41] <sethk> eobanb, besides, I have many production boxes with even less capability than that
[09:41] <bbrazil> linkslice: cdrecord -v file.iso
[09:41] <zoidberg> sethk, the reason i was asking if i could upgrade to dapper is because some other troubleshooting i want to avoid since i'm on badger
[09:42] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone know of an app or anything that would allow messaging to an IP outside a LAN
[09:42] <Marex> sethk, have I proofed you that hda is not right place where to put bootloader in 100% of cases?
[09:42] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: what are you trying to do?
[09:42] <eobanb> zoidberg, just for further reference, the shorter name is usually breezy, not badger
[09:42] <sethk> zoidberg, if you know that there is a reason that requires an upgrade, that's different.
[09:42] <sethk> Marex, no.
[09:42] <squidgy> stray_77: the labeled one (blue Fn key + F4) doesn't work.  Corporal_Dirge: I'd like to be able to toggle output with a script or, preferably, a keypress.  I'm happy to edit xorg.conf if you can give me some hints on what to add.
[09:42] <sethk> Marex, if there is going to be a default, and it is not going to be based on the type of device connected to hda, then hda is the correct default.
[09:43] <zoidberg> so what should i do guys...upgrade or not?
[09:43] <Marex> isnt it better to let user select that?
[09:43] <Corporal_Dirge> squidgy, there's a way to set up bioskeys in xorg, but there's issues.
[09:43] <eobanb> zoidberg, i'd say that just upgrading for the sake of upgrading is silly, but if there's some feature or additional hardware support that you'd like or need that's in dapper, and if you have a bit of free time to play around with it to fix small problems, then by all means upgrade
[09:43] <Marex> sethk,
[09:43] <argument> ok how do I *remove* myself from a group?
[09:43] <argument> bbrazil, adduser was it
[09:43] <sethk> Marex, you are saying there shouldn't be a default?  I think many newbies would complain about that.
[09:43] <sethk> argument, usermod
[09:43] <zoidberg> alright then
[09:43] <FarrisG> Is there a way to tell exactly what resource(s) is/are the source of iowait?
[09:43] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, I have someone trying to access me in ftp, I have the IP, but no way to contact them. Also, I've needed somthing like this for a while.
[09:43] <sethk> argument, you can edit /etc/group, but that's not the "right" way
[09:44] <zoidberg> i will download the packages i need to make this mahcine do what i want
[09:44] <argument> sethk, yes i know
[09:44] <zoidberg> so i wont upgrade
[09:44] <Marex> sethk, hmm ... you can let users select ...
[09:44] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: do you want to setup an ftp server?
[09:44] <Marex> sethk, hda by default seems stupid to me cuz it can overwrite bootloader you dont want to be overwritten
[09:44] <sethk> argument, I thought you were asking.
[09:44] <Marex> sethk, maybe some selection should be there
[09:44] <sethk> Marex, no.  either the bootloader is on hda, in which case it is CORRECT, or ...
[09:44] <squidgy> Corporal_Dirge:  On my last HP laptop, they worked fine, but here no dice.  I'm willing to try it just to see if I can get it to work, understanding it may be flakey.  I'll google for bioskeys.  Any other hints?
[09:44] <FantasticFoo> can anybody PLEASE tell me how to restore my system to an earlier state?
[09:44] <argument> sethk, you did say two things, i was only responding to the second
[09:45] <sethk> Marex, and selection IS there.  there is a default, but you can override it
[09:45] <FantasticFoo> e.g., a working state
[09:45] <sethk> argument, ok
[09:45] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, No, I have an FTP. But need a way to contact people via IP
[09:45] <eobanb> FantasticFoo, what's the issue?
[09:45] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: just use the IP in place of a hostname
[09:45] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, that is not an easy here is what you do explanation, you likely need to give what you want to restore
[09:45] <Marex> sethk, how many new users will find that out before their bootloader will be overwritten ;)
[09:45] <bruenig> as in what app or what configuration etc.
[09:45] <argument> sethk, so what's the right way to remove a user from a group?
[09:45] <sethk> Marex, every one who's bootloader should not be overwritten, because that is nobody
[09:45] <Marex> sethk, ... or they wont manage to make that even boot
[09:45] <sethk> argument, usermod
[09:45] <bbrazil> Marex: this discussion is more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <argument> sethk, yes i already read man usermod, the only option it has is a group list with -G
[09:46] <three> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[09:46] <Corporal_Dirge> squidgy, I'm trying to get my second moritor to work as well. (Compaq/HP) There's people trying it, but not full support yet.
[09:46] <Marex> bbrazil, well I went here just to support HanzZ in battle :P
[09:46] <sethk> argument, right, so?
[09:46] <Polygon89> hello, i have a question, im wanting to download this torrent: http://torrents.vugames.com/fearcomb...07.exe.torrent but it keeps timing out, and it says on the site that there are ppl seeding/downloading. why can't i download this torrent?
[09:46] <argument> sethk, i just want to remove myself from a specific group not go look for all the groups i'm in so that i can retype them in
[09:46] <FantasticFoo> eobanb: it got f***'ed up after i tried to install compiz (a stupid idea, trying to mess with beta junk)... i get a kernel panic every startup
[09:46] <argument> that's retarded
[09:46] <Marex> sethk, this really is loss of time :)
[09:46] <Marex> sethk, I'll go finish camera driver ...bye
[09:46] <sethk> argument, I'm sorry you don't want to type it, but that's what you do.
[09:46] <sethk> Marex, bye
[09:46] <sethk> Marex, sorry you were wrong about it.  :)
[09:46] <argument> sethk, well that's retarded
[09:47] <bruenig> Polygon89, that link doesn't even download a torrent for me I get a 404
[09:47] <argument> i'll just edit /etc/group in that case
[09:47] <sethk> argument, write a better utility, then
[09:47] <FantasticFoo> i dunno why i even bothered with that compiz crap... i'm so mad at myself
[09:47] <argument> sethk, no i'll just edit /etc/group
[09:47] <Aagni> hi .. whats the best torrent software for Gnome?
[09:47] <sethk> argument, ok, your funeral
[09:47] <Marex> sethk, you just cant take your fault ... but I understand you, dont worry
[09:47] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, ip instead of hostname for what?
[09:47] <bbrazil> Aagni: use 'vigr' for that for proper locking
[09:47] <Polygon89> sorry, i was copying from my post in ubuntu forums, it shortens the name, here is the real link: http://torrents.vugames.com/fearcombat_en_107.exe.torrent
[09:47] <argument> sethk, ummm i doubt it
[09:47] <bruenig> Aagni, depends on your definition of best. azureus has the most features but is a resource hog. I use utorrent with wine
[09:47] <apo`> Hi
[09:47] <zoidberg> guys what is the name of that DVD player
[09:47] <Aagni> vigr?
[09:47] <zoidberg> oogle
[09:47] <zoidberg> ?
[09:47] <zoidberg> how do u spell it
[09:48] <tepus6> hi i recently installed compiz... im following a tutorial to set it up... it says to use gconf-editor apps > compiz... but it isnt there... any ideas?
[09:48] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: where you would normally put a hostname, just put in the IP of the remote system
[09:48] <sethk> Marex, I'll talk to you about this on PM, if you really want to understand the situation
[09:48] <Aagni> bruenig: that sounds like a great idea
[09:48] <squidgy> Corporal_Dirge:  I think maybe what I'm trying to do is even simpler.  I just want to be able to switch from the built-in LCD to using an external monitor (a projector, actually, for a class I teach).  So, no need to have both going at once or anything fancy like that.
[09:48] <HanzZ> sethk: what about this ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8497
[09:48] <argument> sethk, any distro where I can seriously fubar something by doing a standard edit to /etc/group is not worth my time
[09:48] <bruenig> Polygon89, it is something on your end works for me
[09:48] <Aagni> bruenig: i have never used wine+utorrent
[09:48] <Marex> sethk, you can eg join #0verkill
[09:48] <Polygon89> darn it.
[09:48] <HanzZ> sethk: this is normal?
[09:48] <Aagni> what do i need to make that happen?
[09:48] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, I don't think you understand what I'm doing. Say all I have is an IP address, how do I contact them?
[09:48] <sethk> HanzZ, what about it?  I don't believe it's correct.  you do.
[09:48] <Polygon89> all torrents work except ones from that site, drat.
[09:48] <argument> sethk, assuming of course i didn't make a *mistake* or typo while editing that is
[09:49] <acojlo> easy way to change the color of menus?
[09:49] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: ftp <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:49] <sethk> argument, hopefully
[09:49] <Marex> sethk, #0verkill ... HanzZ is there too
[09:49] <sethk> HanzZ, yes
[09:49] <HanzZ> sethk: sry :)
[09:49] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, without FTP
[09:49] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: what protocol do you intend to use?
[09:49] <wasabi> argument: Tools like vigr exist for a reason. A program that reads /etc/group and gets invalid information could have unexpected outcomes. ;)
[09:50] <bruenig> Aagni, this guide takes you through the installation and configuration of wine and utorrent. All that I would add is that when you run utorrent. Go to Options>Preferences>General and uncheck all the system tray stuff as that is buggy.
[09:50] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, That's what I'm asking. Is there applications that allow direct IP input?
[09:50] <bruenig> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[09:50] <blocky> tar has failed me
[09:50] <blocky> File size limit exceeded
[09:50] <argument> wasabi, as I said before... not worth my time
[09:50] <wasabi> argument: Not quite sure what you mean.
[09:50] <Aagni> bruenig: which guide?
[09:50] <argument> wasabi, then forget about it
[09:50] <zparta> hey is there any tool that let me scan for wireless networks with ubuntu ?
[09:50] <bruenig> that url
[09:50] <bruenig> I meant to put it in the original post and forgot so I had to put it on another line
[09:50] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: that's pretty advanced stuff. Look into tap devices, I think they allow bidirectional communication. Also raw sockets
[09:50] <squidgy> zparta: kismet
[09:50] <tepus6> hi i recently installed compiz... im following a tutorial to set it up... it says to use gconf-editor apps > compiz... but it isnt there... any ideas?
[09:51] <zparta> squidgy: is is in with base install ?
[09:51] <Malachi> What's a good CD label make for Linux?
[09:51] <bruenig> Aagni, this guide, sorry for the confusion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161
[09:51] <squidgy> zparta:  no, I think it's in the universe or multiverse repository.
[09:52] <Aagni> bruenig: thats ok :) checking..
[09:52] <FantasticFoo> i really don't wanna have to reinstall linux... the error was something along the lines of "unable to mount blahblahblah"
[09:52] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, Basically, I'm looking for something that people that are common to the net would use to contact each other via IP addresses. AIM, Yahoo, etc, all use SN. I'd like direct contact.
[09:52] <wasabi> argument: I'm not sure of any nix system with a /etc/group that functions any differently.
[09:52] <FantasticFoo> i can't get to a command line... maybe something i should do from a live cd?
[09:52] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, the blahblahblah is probably important
[09:53] <blocky> is there a way to have tar break its output into multiple files?
[09:53] <Entity> do we discuss about edgy in another channel?
[09:53] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, you could use the live cd to fix mount problems but first figure out the blahblahblah
[09:53] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: for simple chat there's old fashioned 'talk'
[09:53] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: yeah, but it's hard to get, the error flashes so fast
[09:53] <Corporal_Dirge> talk?
[09:53] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: 2 party IRC kinda
[09:54] <derrickh> does anyone know of a program that will burn/rip ISOs for DVDs?
[09:54] <kads> my javac command doesn't make a class file from a java file
[09:54] <flo__> can someone help me install vmware-olayer? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21229
[09:54] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: hmm.. it's actually something like "unable to mount root fs on unknown block 0,0"
[09:54] <shinobi2> iwlist shows me a hotspot, how do i connect to this hotspot?
[09:54] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: you'd probably be better off setting up an irc server
[09:54] <Entity> Is it normal that linux-dri-modules-common is not in Edgy repos???
[09:55] <Corporal_Dirge> But then they'd have to connect, etc.
[09:55] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, oh, that doesn't look good at all
[09:55] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: uhoh. that's great...
[09:55] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, I'm suprised there isn't anything out there for this.
[09:56] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: I'm not sure you've thought this all the way through
[09:56] <bruenig> I was hoping it was something to do with fstab, that looks more like a boot problem
[09:56] <kads> my javac command doesn't make a class file from a java file
[09:56] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: well the error most likely happened when i tried to update packages with some weird unofficial deb repository
[09:56] <zoidberg> guys what is the name of that good DVD player...OGLE?
[09:56] <acon> There has to be at least one half way decent RSS reader for linux. The question is which one.
[09:56] <stefg> VLC :-)
[09:56] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: is there any way to "downgrade" all of my packages to the official ubuntu versions?
[09:56] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, Sure I have. Why does everyone have to connect to 3rd party servers to chat?
[09:57] <Corporal_Dirge> bbrazil, there should be a way to punch in an IP address and chat with someone.
[09:57] <bruenig> fantasticfoo, are you saying you can't get into ubuntu as in it wont let you boot?
[09:57] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, there is this thing called IRC you may want to look at.
[09:57] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: correct.
[09:57] <bbrazil> Corporal_Dirge: that'd be talk. Or possibly jabber
[09:57] <buntu418> how to change default media player from rhythmbox to amarok ...so tht i can open it using my multimedia keyboard
[09:57] <sethk> bbrazil, telnet also
[09:57] <buntu418> plsss
[09:57] <buntu418> help me out
[09:57] <bruenig> FantasticFoo, that is beyond my knowledge however I will tell you that the problem if fixable likely resides in the /boot directory
[09:57] <bbrazil> sethk: requires a server though
[09:57] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, You do realize that we're connected through another server right?
[09:57] <SpComb> netcat!
[09:58] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, of course.  there is a good reason for that
[09:58] <FantasticFoo> bruenig: hmm... i see. well thanks for trying to help...
[09:58] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, it's called DCC
[09:58] <Serfalyx> blocky: You can split the tar file up after the fact with the 'split' command - will that work for you?
[09:58] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, or IM
[09:58] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, go get AIM or something
[09:58] <Serfalyx> Woah, that was late.
[09:58] <shawnr_> sethk, there are a few options for java sdk... any one over the other?
[09:59] <sethk> shawnr_, as far as I recall I use the defaults, but if you want to ask specifically about an option, then ask
[09:59] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, I have AIM, does it allow direct IP input?
[09:59] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, ummm, *why* would you need or want that?
[09:59] <Choclo> hey guys... where is the grub.conf file in ubuntu? I need to change a few boot paramenters...
[09:59] <kads> my javac command doesn't make a class file from a java file
[09:59] <sethk> choclo  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:59] <argument> kads, sounds like a question for #java
[09:59] <sethk> choclo   grub.conf is an optional symbolic link
[09:59] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Lots of reasons. I've been around long enough to have had the need several times.
[09:59] <shawnr_> sethk, well there is the BlackDown one
[09:59] <Choclo> thanks sethk!
[10:00] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, good, so give me a few of those reasons.
[10:00] <sethk> shawnr_, and what other?
[10:00] <sethk> shawnr_, the one on sun's java.sun.com is also the blackdown one.
[10:00] <shawnr_> sethk, free-java-sdk
[10:00] <shawnr_> ahh
[10:00] <sethk> shawnr_, haven't used that one.
[10:00] <gilianima> How to chown a symbolic link ?
[10:00] <shawnr_> so i guess the blackdown would be fine
[10:00] <tepus6> ok... i installed the nvidia driver.. i set xorg to use it.. when i restarted gnome it locked up (whole system) what my be the root of this?
[10:01] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, One example is that a person that had been trying to connect to your FTP is no longer connected, you want to contact via IP.
[10:01] <buntu418> anybody using a creative midi keyboard with full function
 for some reason i can't join the channel
[10:01] <shawnr_> sethk, now the blackdown sdk, wants to install the blackdown jre. but i already have jre
[10:02] <Lenny1729> hi there
[10:02] <sethk> gilianima, same as any other file
[10:02] <AnI> i have trouble installing samba in xubuntu can anyone help?
[10:02] <Choclo> damn nvraid....  :P
[10:02] <Choclo> *rant off
[10:02] <gilianima> sethk: it doesn't work, even using sudo
[10:02] <sethk> shawnr_, I always install the jre that comes with the sdk.  one less opportunity to get things out of sync
[10:02] <Lenny1729> has anyone tried to install sightspeed on ubuntu?
[10:02] <sethk> gilianima, I just did one, to check myself, and it works fine
[10:03] <linux_manju> babo: hmmm but i dont wanna compile my kernel..
[10:03] <sethk> gilianima, you are talking about a symbolic link, right, not a hard link?
[10:03] <Gassed> How do I install a second mouse
[10:03] <shawnr_> sethk, do i have to uninstall java again before i install this version? i just don't want my firefox java plugins to get screwed up
[10:03] <bruenig> Gassed, I would plug it in and then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:03] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, ummm, you want to contact them or they want to contact you? and wouldn't that require that *everyone* install your little "chat" software? and couldn't that easily become a security vulnerability just like any other daemon/listening process
[10:03] <tepus6> ok... i installed the nvidia driver.. i set xorg to use it.. when i restarted gnome it locked up (whole system) what my be the root of this?
[10:03] <gilianima> sethk: yes, right, a symbolic link on a drawer
[10:04] <sethk> shawnr_, these shouldn't affect your browser.  that said, I have not done this exact sequence ... so I can't say 100% that it won't have a problem.
[10:04] <argument> tepus6, what card do you have? is it old?
[10:04] <sethk> gilianima, a drawer?  there is no such thing as a drawer, at least not in the file system
[10:04] <bruenig> gilianima, do you mean a launcher on the panel?
[10:04] <argument> tepus6, have you checked the error logs or the output of X as it tries to start?
[10:04] <ph0bik> I recently screwed up some of the fonts in many of my gnome apps, such as gpdf, bleep media player, azereus and several other apps the fonts show up as unreadable boxes like its a foriegn language.  But most other apps are fine, anyone know how I can repair that?
[10:04] <blocky> argh i killed x accidentally
[10:04] <bruenig> as those aren't really symbolic links or at least I would call it that
[10:04] <Gassed> bruenig: What shall I do about the other questions, like  Attempt to autodetect video hardware?
[10:04] <gilianima> sethk: i mean a directory
[10:04] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Yes, I'm asking if there's a chat app that allows direct IP input. You've just described what I've described to the channel already. OSS the damn app, but there has to be something.
[10:04] <bruenig> Gassed, accept defaults
[10:05] <sethk> gilianima, it's a sym link to a directory?  I'll make one of those and try to chown it
[10:05] <blocky> I'm trying to back up my home directory in a tar file to a samba share and its stopping at 2gb
[10:05] <blocky> does anyone know why?
[10:05] <shawnr_> sethk, there is a package 'javacc' in synaptic! lol lemme try
[10:05] <argument> Corporal_Dirge... why not mod X-Chat to use an ip for DCC ?
[10:05] <Brocolis> hi, i can't sync my palm, somebody can help me?
[10:05] <sethk> gilianima, works there also.
[10:05] <mc_> how do i turn ubuntu into xubuntu? (already installed xfce4)
[10:05] <mc_> do i just have to set xfce4 as the default window manager?
[10:05] <sethk> gilianima, I'm doing it as root, not with sudo.  I'll check with sudo.
[10:05] <nalioth> mc_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <tuxtux> ciao
[10:05] <tepus6> argument, i have a nvidia geforce 5200 256mb
[10:05] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, my initial guess is "no" because i really don't think you've got a very good reason to do what you're doing... at least not that i can see based on what you've described to me so far
[10:05] <AnI> problem installing samba can anyone help
[10:05] <aLPHa_LeaK> mc_: install the package xubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <Gassed> bruenig: There's nothing about a serial mouse, it's all PS/2.
[10:05] <bruenig> mc_ http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php
[10:06] <mc_> nalioth: aLPHa_LeaK bruenig thank you!
[10:06] <sethk> gilianima, works with sudo also
[10:06] <PhUrl>  how can i calm apt down about packages i imported from debian into ubuntu, it want a specifc version of the compiler. but i dont need it. so i want to tell apt to stop complaining. how can i do that? please? :)
[10:06] <bruenig> Gassed, my idea didn't work then
[10:06] <argument> tepus6, have you googled for information about your card with ubuntu?
[10:06] <sethk> gilianima, are you sure you are interpreting what you see correctly?
[10:06] <bruenig> Gassed, looks like you are going to need to edit the xorg.conf file
[10:06] <itsmorefun> hello
[10:06] <Malachi> What's a good CD label make for Linux?
[10:06] <nalioth> PhUrl: you should be careful and check that you can remove all those debian pkgs without breaking your system
[10:06] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, There's a good reason that people may want to chat without having to connect to a common server.
[10:06] <argument> Malachi, The GIMP
[10:06] <itsmorefun> how can i remove "Return-Path: <www-data" in mail send by postfix ?
[10:06] <Choclo> has anyone been able to install ubuntu in a a8n-sli mobo? or the nvraid?
[10:06] <Gassed> bruenig: Every one tells me to edit these files but dont tell me how or what to edit
[10:06] <nalioth> PhUrl: mixing debian debs and ubuntu debs will cause your system to fail
[10:06] <Malachi> argument: Similar to Nero or Avery
[10:07] <rekrutacja> hi all do you know easy to use tool for encoding-decoding audio files? i have collection of mp3 and ogg music, but my new phone (moto slvr) seems to accept only mp3 with max. 128kbps...
[10:07] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, what you're saying is that you want a standalone DCC app
[10:07] <bruenig> Gassed, I am not familiar with xorg.conf enough to add a new mouse. Someone else in here may be
[10:07] <gilianima> sethk: sudo chown gilles:gilles caroline (gilles is the user, caroline is the symbolic link)
[10:07] <chab> anyone know a good gameboy emulator?
[10:07] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, so go make it! or google
[10:07] <dr_willis> Gassed,  thats when reading and researching come in handy. :)
[10:07] <bruenig> !info gngb
[10:07] <ubotu> gngb: GameBoy Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 20040115-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 368 kB
[10:07] <gilianima> sethk: ls -l says it still belongs to root
[10:07] <sethk> gilianima, and, why do you think it fails?
[10:07] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Say some script kiddie has been scanning my ports and I want to send a message to that IP "Stop it you little butt monkey"
[10:07] <gilianima> sethk: I don't know
[10:07] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, since DCC is already part of basically every IRC client in existence i think is the reason that most people haven't cared about what you want
[10:08] <sethk> gilianima, it works for me, here.   I'm wondering if there's a popular or common app that allows IP input.
[10:09] <Aagni> bruenig: but for some reason my disk makes a lot of noise when i run utorrent ..
[10:09] <ompaul> !langauge
[10:09] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, NO!!!! dammit kid... write your own standalone DCC
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langauge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <ompaul> !language
[10:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:09] <ph0bik> I recently found that many of my apps have unreadable fonts not sure what I did, gpdf, azerus, bleep and several others have boxes for letters.  But my font settings in gnome are right and most apps such as xchat are fine, any help?
[10:09] <bruenig> Aagni, go to system>administration>system monitor and see what kind of resource use it is taking up I have had some people complain that it goes to 100% cpu but I have never experienced that
[10:09] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, every domain has a default email address for such complaints, and that's what you are supposed to use.  If you do anything else, then technically _you_ become guilty of hacking
[10:10] <argument> sethk++
[10:10] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, which may be dumb, but is true
[10:10] <Corporal_Dirge> argument, Having only 1 app that isn't commonly adopted isn't really a good way to chat.
[10:10] <ompaul> Corporal_Dirge, mostly they are viruses that are attacking you
[10:10] <jrib> gilianima: you need to use -h
[10:10] <argument> Corporal_Dirge, my advice: give up and go do real work
[10:10] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, it was another example.
[10:10] <Corporal_Dirge> ompaul, it was another example.
[10:11] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, I do understand what you are saying.  If there were enough call for it, though, I suspect it would exist, since it is a trivial enough thing to code.
[10:11] <zoidberg> guys ineed some help
[10:11] <jrib> !ask
[10:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:11] <unio> zoidberg: elaborate please?
[10:11] <zoidberg> do i need some CSS library codecs to play DVDs using OGLE
[10:11] <zoidberg> ?
[10:11] <unio> O_o
[10:11] <jrib> !dvd > zoidberg
[10:12] <Gassed> Does anybody know how to install a second mouse (9-pin serial) to Ubuntu???
[10:12] <mc_> is there a special xubuntu rep?
[10:12] <bruenig> mc_ they are all the same
[10:12] <encrypt-> Hello all, can anyone help me set up ubuntu to act as a wireless router?
[10:12] <leak> would anyone mind logging to my comp through ssh and trying to install ATI drivers? i've failed for 100th time
[10:12] <sethk> Gassed, second, with what as first?
[10:12] <Gassed> sethk: A USB one
[10:12] <gilianima> jrib, sethk: ok, it works with -h
[10:12] <mc_> bruenig: well kubuntu has some newer kde builds i think
[10:12] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, Well, I'm not looking for only something that would allow direct IP input, even being able to check the IP for other chat applications (AIM, Yahoo, ICQ) and then messge those clients should they have it.
[10:13] <bruenig> mc_, they have the same repos. I am almost certain
[10:13] <poningru> !nfs
[10:13] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:13] <sethk> gilianima, you must have a link to a link, then
[10:13] <mc_> bruenig: alright,ty!
[10:13] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, it would, as I say, be trivial to code.
[10:13] <witless> hi. is there a utility that will  a) rip a CD to a single lossless file with all the track timing etc maintained, and  b) rip individual tracks (with tag lookup) from that file?
[10:13] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, But currently you have to know the sn and connect to the main AIM/ICQ/Yahoo server
[10:14] <sethk> witless, tracks, yes.  I don't know of one that will rip the entire cd (talking an audio cd now)
[10:14] <Corporal_Dirge> sethk, I'm only good at java and don't know how those chat apps work.
[10:14] <Gassed> Does anybody know how to install a second mouse (9-pin serial) to Ubuntu -- First mouse is a USB one
[10:14] <witless> sethk: i wrote a script that did it using jack but the track info lookup no longer works  :-(
[10:14] <kingrayray> hi guys
[10:14] <sethk> Corporal_Dirge, it's fairly simple network programming.  You would have to define a well known socket number for a machine to listen on for such requests
[10:15] <barrree> how to set default music player?
[10:15] <kingrayray> quick Q.. how do i get rhythmbox to read mp3s?
[10:15] <jrib> !mp3 > kingrayray
[10:15] <kingrayray> thanks
[10:15] <sethk> witless, yes, I don't know a way around that, and I doubt there is one.
[10:15] <witless> ok, thx
[10:15] <bruenig> barrree, gnome does a very poor job allowing for the selection of default apps
[10:15] <bruenig> imo
[10:15] <vdm> Could someone tell me how i can configure the network etc postinstall on ubuntu-server?
[10:15] <zoidberg> guys what is the location of the sources.list?
[10:15] <zoidberg> ?
[10:15] <justin_> I am curious, is Linux on EXT3 (Ubuntu) still susceptible to the hardcrash mount failures that EXT2 had?, I remember a power outage on EXT2 and my PC would no longer boot at all --? is this still likely to happen with EXT3?
[10:16] <lamego> vdm, for the network configuration edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:16] <sethk> zoidberg, /etc/apt
[10:16] <Aagni> justin_: it has happened to me
[10:16] <lamego> as for the rest it depends on the services you are trying to setup
[10:16] <linux_manju> zoidberg: /etc/apt/
[10:16] <barrree> so Im stuck withgxine
[10:16] <lamego> read the official server guide
[10:16] <Aagni> justin_: second day of my ubuntu install
[10:16] <vdm> lamego: that includes routing?
[10:16] <linux_manju> Where do i set the static routes ??
[10:16] <lamego> vdm, i believe it includes setting up the gw
[10:17] <leak> no volounteers :< could anyonone give me a working tutorial on ATI drivers installing? i've already tried the one from the bot in here which responds to "!ati"
[10:17] <bobovski> hi again. how do I restart dchp?
[10:17] <bruenig> !nvidia
[10:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:17] <vdm> lamego: ok, cheers.. ill check the man pages
[10:17] <bobovski> !dhcp
[10:17] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB
[10:17] <Aagni> !hdparm
[10:17] <ubotu> hdparm: tune hard disk parameters for high performance. In component main, is standard. Version 6.3-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 232 kB
[10:17] <lamego> for setting up static routes maybe you have to add a route command to the networking script, if you need spefici routes, but i am not sure, man route :P
[10:18] <Aagni> is the /proc fs avialable in dapper as well?
[10:18] <lamego> Aagni, thats a linux fs, standard
[10:18] <linux_manju> lamego: Thats how it is now.. But I wanted somethig better
[10:18] <Aagni> lamego: i see
[10:18] <Aagni> !procfs
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about procfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <linux_manju> lamego: somethign like /etc/staticroutes in fedora
[10:18] <vdm> lamego: :) Yeah, need to get this box to forward ip
[10:19] <Stato> hi
[10:19] <justin_> Yeah, I better not crash and have another "Kernel" 0x00011010 whatever error :))
[10:19] <Aagni> how much of a good idea is it to run ones one dns cache?
[10:19] <Stato> i just installed ubuntu hoary from the shipped cds
[10:19] <Ademan> ubuntu has no "registry" like windows right? or one that can be modified by any old program right? its only for configuring gnome... right?
[10:19] <Aagni> i mean ones own dns cache?
[10:19] <lamego> vdm, port forwarding ? that should be an iptables rule, not routing
[10:19] <Stato> but, whats the root password?
[10:19] <ljlolel> Aagni, good question
[10:19] <technel> I am using gnome-terminal -- is it possible to have a bash script that runs some commands and then opens up more tabs in gnome-terminal?
[10:20] <lamego> Stato, you received hoary now :P ?
[10:20] <jrib> !root > Stato
[10:20] <leak> and btw - does anyone know how to run istanbul under xfce? in gnome it shows an icon in the gnome's bar on the top of screen - the problem is i dont have it in xfce so i can't right click on it and make it start recording
[10:20] <lamego> technel, don't think so
[10:20] <Aagni> ljlolel: i have been debating that with mysefl for sometime now
[10:20] <Stato> lamego, :)
[10:20] <ljlolel> Aagni, i hear a lot of isps have bad dns
[10:20] <jrib> Stato: also hoary is now two versions old, you may want to consider upgrading
[10:20] <vdm> lamego: yep, interfaces are up.. only iptables left.
[10:20] <jrib> !upgrade > Stato
[10:20] <vdm> lamego: has been a while since i did that manually :/
[10:20] <Aagni> ljlolel: I dont see thr basic reason why people do it
[10:20] <bobovski> ljlolel: I've had dns problems all week with my isp
[10:21] <technel> lamego, Any suggestions for what I could do? I will be running about 5 different programs that need to run concurrently...
[10:21] <lamego> Aagni, you shouldn't need a dns cache for your own system, unless your ISP dns really sucks :)
[10:21] <bobovski> ljlolel: it has caused no end of frustration
[10:21] <Aagni> lamego: if thats the case, then i dont need to
[10:21] <lamego> technel, why do you need tabs ? can't they run on the background ?
[10:21] <Aagni> my ISPs pretty good
[10:21] <lamego> technel, you can open new terminals, with each command...
[10:21] <lamego> from the bash script
[10:21] <bobovski> guess if I restart dhcp, I'll be disconnected?
[10:21] <Stato> ok ok, so in ubunto the root account its disabled so i cant use it?
[10:22] <sethk> technel, run gnome-terminal under strace with -o and -ff.  Create a new tab terminal.  Then extract the commands for doing so from the strace output files.
[10:22] <technel> lamego, Well, that would require "ps aux | grep whatever" and then kill every time I need to restart the process, and that is no good
[10:22] <jrib> Stato: you use sudo instead
[10:22] <ljlolel> Aagni, I mean, it's can't be slower to run your own dns, and i doubt bind takes up many resources
[10:22] <Aagni> and whats the best way to organize ones music?
[10:22] <Ademan> ubuntu has no "registry" like windows right? or one that can be modified by any old program right? its only for configuring gnome... right?
[10:22] <ljlolel> it*
[10:22] <sethk> Stato, no.  it isn't disabled.  ubuntu will not run without a root account
[10:22] <Aagni> ljlolel: probably, but why do it unless its worth the time
[10:22] <sethk> Stato, the password is not set.  In most of the install options, the root password is set, but the default desktop option does not set it.
[10:22] <ljlolel> Aagni, apt-get install bind? time?
[10:22] <sethk> Stato, you can either set the password, or use sudo
[10:22] <Aagni> Ademan: not to the best of my knowledge
[10:23] <Aagni> ljlolel: what about config time?
[10:23] <ljlolel> Aagni, what is config time
[10:23] <lamego> technel, well, check the gnome-terminal command line options, eventually there is an option to open on a tab, but it will work the same wat, it will create a new terminal, which is not bound to the parent process
[10:23] <Stato> jrib, and thats not restrictive in some way, excuse if its a silly doubt but i used to use fedora and slack with root when i needed to make big changes to the system
[10:23] <ljlolel> Aagni, just edit resolv.conf?
[10:23] <Aagni> ljlolel: time required to set it up
[10:23] <ljlolel> one line?
[10:23] <lamego> technel, and you can keep track of the open terminal pids, saving the $?
[10:23] <bobovski> I'm typing in sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart but it's not working, command not found
[10:23] <Aagni> ljlolel: i know .. but why do it unless its *absolutely* required
[10:23] <T> Hi all
[10:23] <jrib> Stato: no you can do everything with sudo that you could do by loggin in as root.  'sudo -i' will even give you a root prompt if you wish
[10:24] <ljlolel> to save 10 ms
[10:24] <T> i i am trying to compile Qt 4 and when i do make i get a error
[10:24] <PhUrl> i started a autotools repacking of the large scale c++ software dependancy analysis http://rdfintrospector.blogspot.com/2006/08/configuration-tools-part-1-lsc-large.html
[10:24] <bobovski> what about sudo su -
[10:24] <ljlolel> :-)
[10:24] <phobik> I recently found that many of my apps have unreadable fonts not sure what I did, gpdf, azerus, bleep and several others have boxes for letters.  But my font settings in gnome are right and most apps such as xchat are fine, any help?
[10:24] <T> make[3] : *** [.obj/debug-shared/qobject.o]  Error 1
[10:24] <lamego> phobik, have you used automatix ?
[10:24] <sethk> bobovski, sudo su - doesn't make any sense.
[10:24] <phobik> lamego: yes :(
[10:24] <Aagni> phobik: try rebuiling your font cache?
[10:24] <lamego> phobik, so, there is your problem :)
[10:24] <T> and something with corelib
[10:24] <phobik> lamego: ok no solution?
[10:24] <lamego> probably you have selected the ms ttfs fonts install
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: i used automatix .. so?
[10:25] <sethk> Stato, you can set the root password and use it.  there is nothing different about ubuntu compare to slackware or fedora in this respect
[10:25] <T> make[3] : *** [.obj/debug-shared/qobject.o]  Error 1
[10:25] <lmosher> Stato, I came from FC about a week ago. You can do 'sudo su -' if you want to. The point of doing it this way (I think) is that you have to enter your pw every time you do something. Which is supposed to make it more safe, but I worry that password entry becomes habit forming and you could make mistakes anyway
[10:25] <Stato> jrib, ok ,thanks man ill see how this works
[10:25] <phobik> lamego: yep how do I go about removing?
[10:25] <bobovski> sethk: try it
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: and i selected ms fonts install ..its ok with me
[10:25] <lamego> Aagni, the last time i did it, i have installed the ms ttf fonts, and a lot of applications got unreadable
[10:25] <lamego> Aagni, but not with me, and some other people
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: thats strange
[10:25] <Aagni> i am using ms fonts as my defaults
[10:25] <sethk> bobovski, I didn't say it won't work, I said it makes no sense, and it is inferior to setting the root password and using su normally
[10:25] <Stato> sethk, ok ill check about that, i have 2 years without using linux .(
[10:25] <phobik> lamego: cool thanks for the heads up, I will try to remove that package
[10:25] <lmosher> Stato, but like they've said - it's just a default option. You can set your root pw and such and it will be just like FC if you want. I left it to the default for now - it hasn't really bothered me :)
[10:25] <Aagni> lamego: i see
[10:25] <bobovski> sethk: I don't know much about command line stuff, but that gives me a root login
[10:26] <lamego> Aagni, and the worse, there is no way to uninstall them, at least not automated
[10:26] <leak> so.. anyone willing to help me installing ATI drivers through SSH? i really dont wanna format/reinstall again which i will have to do if i start doing it on my own once again
[10:26] <bobovski> sethk: hehe, I had no idea there was another way
[10:26] <phobik> lamego: your kidding...
[10:26] <sethk> bobovski, if you subscribe to the "sudo is better" (which I don't), then you shouldn't do that.  If you want to do that, just set the root password.
[10:26] <lmosher> leak, what card do you have?
[10:26] <leak> radeon 9000
[10:26] <sethk> bobovski, the reason that is much worse than setting the root password is that gives everyone root access whether they know the root password or not.
[10:26] <lamego> phobik, remove does not remove the fonts, at least it did not when i have used, it was some months ago, just if they changed it after :)
[10:26] <bobovski> sethk: I'm not experienced enought to subscribe to any way yet...other than what has been working heh
[10:26] <leak> i've followed the link bot gives when writing !ati, but it didn't help me - it was still using mesa
[10:27] <Stato> sethk, how i can set the root passw?
[10:27] <bobovski> dittop
[10:27] <phobik> lamego: well how did you fix it?
[10:27] <sethk> stato   sudo passwd
[10:27] <bobovski> er, ditto
[10:27] <lmosher> Leak, follow this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[10:27] <lamego> phobik, I decided to reinstall because i was loosing to much time deleting the fonts manually, i mean looking for them
[10:27] <bobovski> anyone know how to restart dhcp?
[10:27] <Stato> sethk, thanks :)
[10:27] <lamego> it was faster to just reinstall, since i keep a /home aside
[10:27] <lmosher> leak, Pay carefull attention to the "troubleshooting' tip #2 about cards less than a 9500.
[10:27] <leak> lmosher i'm afraid i've already did i and i'm 100% sure i did everything the way it's written in there
[10:27] <lamego> since then, I never use automatix, just easyubuntu
[10:28] <leak> ok thx man.
[10:28] <lmosher> leak, Did you check that troubleshooting point? Apparently something is borked for cards less than 9500 and they have a link to a .so file you need to install manually
[10:28] <leak> now i remember that's what i needed to do when i was installing ati on ubuntu for the first time and after several formats i simply forgot on that lib
[10:29] <leak> i'm sure it's gonna work now, lmosher can u maybe provide me with an answer on my question regarding running istanbul under xfce?
[10:29] <leak> if you have experience with it
[10:29] <lmosher> leak, Sorry I've never used instabul and have very limited experience with xfce
[10:30] <leak> kk, thx anyway and thx alot for help with the drivers
[10:30] <ompaul> leak, you know there is #xubuntu ?
[10:30] <leak> didn't know
[10:30] <zoidberg> alright guys I'm a DUMBASS...can someone help me get the SEVEAS pacakgeages...i think its the CSS library stuff i need....i made the changes to the sources.list....but then when i run apt-get update it says that th epublic key for the website is not available
[10:30] <zoidberg> ?
[10:30] <Hellavator> I'm having trouble emptying my trash.  I am getting a message that says ".... cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder" how do I resolve this?
[10:30] <ompaul> !seveas
[10:31] <mc_> !easysource > zoidberg
[10:31] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:31] <ompaul> zoidberg, ^^^^^^^
[10:31] <TokenBad> in hoary how installed tcl?
[10:31] <Aagni> bobovski: try this: service dhcpd restart
[10:31] <ompaul> !info tcl hoary
[10:31] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in hoary
[10:31] <Aagni> !service
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <sethk> Hellavator, you may have to do a chown on a parent folder.  how did you get into this situation?
[10:32] <mirzapirza> i think i just killed a laptop.. put in the ubuntu cd, went for 'verify disk', eventually it was giving me looping IRQ 15 errors, so i shut it down -- and now nothing :X i turn it on, the fan goes turns on and a few seconds later it just quiets down :/
[10:32] <ompaul> TokenBad, there you go, there is no tcl for hoary, I have not run that version of ubuntu in about a year
[10:32] <DShepherd> Hellavator: cd ~/.Trash && rm -fr * #that should empty your trash
[10:32] <bruenig> Hellavator, it seems to me a quick sudo chown username -R ~/.Trash would fix it
[10:32] <bobovski> Aagni: ok, thanks
[10:32] <sethk> mirzapirza, sounds like a thermal shutdown, possibly.  wait a bit and try again
[10:32] <TokenBad> ok so have to download and install
[10:32] <Shadyman> hey all.
[10:32] <DShepherd> Hellavator: cd ~/.Trash && sudo rm -fr * #that's better
[10:33] <noclip> hi all! i'm trying to install aiglx and compiz. i add the repositories and "sudo apt-get update", but i get the following error messages:
[10:33] <noclip> W: GPG error: http://xgl.compiz.info dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E
[10:33] <noclip> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:33] <sethk> mirzapirza, verify doesn't write anything
[10:33] <ompaul> TokenBad, you will have to install it from source, be aware that hoary is out of support come October I would get a later distro first
[10:33] <DShepherd> Hellavator: i forgot the sudo part
[10:33] <bobovski> Aagni: service command not found
[10:33] <mirzapirza> sethk: well, it was a while ago actually
[10:33] <sethk> mirzapirza, possibly the disk was about to die and you pushed it over the edge
[10:33] <mirzapirza> maybe :/
[10:33] <mirzapirza> it's old
[10:33] <sethk> mirzapirza, put it in the fridge for a while  :)
[10:34] <noclip> how do i find the public key? (and what do i do with it when i find it?)
[10:34] <mirzapirza> but i get no error messages or anything when i start it.. it just shuts down, and it's been at least an hour now
[10:34] <Hellavator> DShepherd: thanks that worked
[10:34] <sethk> mirzapirza, that's very odd.  you should at least get the startup bios messages
[10:34] <noclip> (or is it safe to continue without it?)
[10:34] <bruenig> noclip it probably was included on the site where you got the repo source
[10:34] <sethk> mirzapirza, remove the hard drive, see if the messages come back
[10:34] <DShepherd> Hellavator: your welcome
[10:34] <TokenBad> ompaul, its for a friend...that was all the disk he had...and he is learning it while waiting on the dapper disk
[10:34] <mirzapirza> any guesses on what it was doing when it said 'disabling irq 15'?
[10:34] <zoidberg> whats the name of the seveas css Library package? i just need to know this so i can download it
[10:35] <sethk> mirzapirza, just that.  there is no way that can carry over across a hard boot
[10:35] <bruenig> libdvdcss?
[10:35] <Aagni> bobovski: try restarting that particular interface
[10:35] <mirzapirza> sethk, i'm not equipped to dig into it and remove the hard drive :o
[10:35] <mirzapirza> dang :x
[10:35] <Aagni> !css
[10:35] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:35] <nox-Hand> Hey
[10:35] <jrib> DShepherd: may I /msg you?
[10:35] <noclip> bruenig, hmm... ok, i'll look for it...
[10:35] <nox-Hand> I am trying to get cron to work as alarm for my system (( to wake me in the morning ))
[10:35] <sethk> mirzapirza, I think it's fair to say that the message about the irq indicates either a serious incompatibility or a serious hardware problem
[10:35] <nox-Hand> But when it starts playing a file, it exits after 1 second o.o
[10:36] <bruenig> zoidberg, here a .deb of libdvdcss, just install it via dpkg or gdebi. probably easiest way to do it http://www.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.8/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb
[10:36] <Aagni> bobovski: e.g. ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 (assuming its eth0 )
[10:36] <ompaul> TokenBad, I would see if it was in back-ports from breezy check you have the repos enabled from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <nox-Hand> any ideas?
[10:36] <bobovski> Aagni: I acutally got /etc/init.d/network restart to work...
[10:36] <mirzapirza> sethk: the eth is a pc card, but it wasn't plugged in.. anything about that?
[10:36] <Aagni> bobovski: yay ;)
[10:36] <Ademan> is there EVER anything more to uninstalling a program in linux(that was not installed using a package manager) than simply deleting the directories it created (other than removing any shared objects it might have created as well)
[10:37] <bobovski> but I'm not so sure yet I have the resolv.conf set up the way I'd like it
[10:37] <sethk> mirzapirza, I doubt it's relevant
[10:37] <argument> Ademan, nope
[10:37] <bobovski> resolving dns seems to take longer now, unfortunately
[10:37] <argument> Ademan, some times you can do make uninstall
[10:37] <mirzapirza> hey this time it gave me three beeps before dying
[10:38] <mirzapirza> strange
[10:38] <Aagni> bobovski: what are you trying to do?
[10:38] <Ademan> argument: well, this is installed with a binary linux installer (its actually the quake 4 demo) so all I need to do is delete any directories it created?
[10:39] <mirzapirza> four beeps!
[10:39] <bobovski> Aagni: well, resolving dns was taking a long time when my router was getting the dns from my ISP. So, I changed my resolv.conf (with advice from sethk) to use a static dns, not provided by my isp
[10:39] <lamego> Ademan, you could try to use checkinstall
[10:39] <bobovski> Aagni: but it seemed to work better when my 'puter got the dns from the router which was set up for static dns
[10:40] <Elda> Hello
[10:40] <bobovski> Aagni: So, I think I'll settle for that configuration
[10:40] <Ademan> !checkinstall > Ademan
[10:40] <Aagni> bobovski: i see
[10:40] <Lenny1729> has anyone ever tried sightspeed under ubuntu?
[10:40] <Aagni> !checkinstall >Agni
[10:40] <Aagni> Lenny1729: whats that ?
[10:40] <mirzapirza> memory or mobo probs according to google..
[10:40] <ardchoille> !info checkinstall
[10:40] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[10:41] <Aagni> !checkinstall >Aagni
[10:41] <lamego> !! checkinstall
[10:41] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[10:41] <bobovski> Aagni: except now I can't get resolv.conf to set nameserver to my router
[10:41] <zoidberg> thanx guys
[10:41] <lostinc> I installed the w32codecs and I still cant seem to play any non DRM files through VLC any ideas?
[10:41] <bobovski> Aagni: make the file read-only?
[10:41] <chamo>  can't install the ATI driver
[10:41] <technel> When I call gnome -e "command" &, the window just closes right away. How do I get it to stay open indefinitly?
[10:42] <argument> Ademan, er yeah prolly... i dunno about that... check the Quake 4 documentation
[10:42] <zoidberg> now i know there was a way to make DVDs play smoother on machines with less RAM
[10:42] <zoidberg> ?
[10:42] <zoidberg> does anyone know how....i did it before but i forgot
[10:42] <Aagni> bobovski: what do u mean you cant get ?
[10:42] <argument> Ademan, i bought Quake 4 :) but my gfx card is a bit too slow :( ... FX 5700
[10:42] <lamego> technel, you can't because you are running it on the background, you can't control it
[10:42] <YogSothoth> I'm trying to get setup my dual monitor. I can't get my 2nd monitor to work. But my main problem is now that my main screen using internal lcd (I'm on a laptop) is not using the full display. I mean, I can set the resolution to 1366x768 which is correct, but I get two black margin on left and right and I need to scroll the screen with my mouse. Why??
[10:42] <Ademan> arguement: how did you uninstall it?
[10:42] <ardchoille> zoidberg: Did you turn DMA on?
[10:42] <Corporal_Dirge> lostinc, is it giving any error or just playing really low quality?
[10:42] <sc0tty> hhm my menu is all screwed up and when I did revert , well it didn't revert :s
[10:42] <zoidberg> no
[10:42] <zoidberg> ardchoille, thats it ...how do i do that
[10:42] <lamego> technel, you are trying to implement something on the wrong way
[10:43] <lostinc> Its playing but it has no video I just see the slider go across the screen and sometimes sound
[10:43] <exs> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402073#post1402073 an idea for devs
[10:43] <bobovski> Aagni: My resolv.conf looks like: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and then two more below it. When I restart the network, it gets rid of the first line
[10:43] <ardchoille> zoidberg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[10:43] <argument> Ademan, linux doesn't have a registry... so you don't really need "uninstallers"
[10:43] <ardchoille> zoidberg: That page explains a lot about it.
[10:43] <Ademan> you just deleted the dir?
[10:43] <argument> Ademan, just check the install log to find out where it put all it's files
[10:43] <Corporal_Dirge> lostinc, Make sure xorg.conf is using a driver set up for your card. I had a similar issue.
[10:43] <Ademan> alright, thanks
[10:43] <argument> Ademan, yes
[10:43] <lamego> technel, you can't work with multilpe terminals like if they were gui windows that you can control from a main program..
[10:44] <ardchoille> !dma
[10:44] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[10:44] <technel> lamego, In all honesty, I don't have the time to learn everything about bash and the Linux kernel. All I want is to type "./launch_whatever" and a few terminals pop open with the command sexecuted
[10:44] <ardchoille> I could have used the bot to tel him about dma, d'oh!
[10:44] <lamego> tech09, just nohup terminal -e command &
[10:44] <technel> lamego, commands*
[10:44] <Aagni> bobovski: no idea to be honest
[10:44] <lamego> and it does open the terminal, until the command ends
[10:44] <argument> technel, use screen
[10:44] <bobovski> Aagni: me neither :)
[10:45] <lamego> make it terminal -e "command" &
[10:45] <technel> lamego, It is...
[10:45] <Hoxzer> What torrent client do you guys prefer?
[10:45] <bobovski> what's the chmod for read-only?
[10:45] <carlos> hello everyone
[10:45] <mc_> Hoxzer: opera
[10:45] <lamego> technel, make sure the & is for the gnome-terminal and not for the command itself
[10:45] <argument> Hoxzer, the default one that comes with ubuntu
[10:45] <technel> lamego, gnome-terminal -e "cd $SAPP_DIR;ruby script/breakpointer" &
[10:45] <carlos> i have a problem, maybe you can help me
[10:45] <DrBanzai> Anybody here know about minicom?  Or is there a better alternative?
[10:45] <argument> Hoxzer, btdownloadcurses has worked well for me so far
[10:45] <lamego> technel, ok, and that doesn't work ?
[10:45] <mc_> !ask > carlos
[10:45] <bobovski> read only for user,group and other, I mean
[10:45] <bruenig> does anyone know if there is a cron.allow by default or not?
[10:45] <technel> lamego, No.
[10:45] <lamego> technel, you can't control the terminal, it will close when the breakpointer ends
[10:46] <lucas> I'm doing a quick poll using a ctcp version query, sorry
[10:46] <Hoxzer> argument: ok, I personally prefer bittornado-gui atm
[10:46] <lamego> technel, it does not work, doesnt it open a terminal and runs the command ?
[10:46] <DAC> anyone knows how to capture REAL media stream with any linux tool
[10:46] <argument> Hoxzer, that has been buggy for me
[10:46] <technel> lamego, It runs the command, but it does not stay open
[10:46] <Hoxzer> argument: will try utorrent with wine in near feature
[10:46] <Hoxzer> argument: :o
[10:46] <ProN00b> DAC, if you can play it with mplayer you can dump it to disk
[10:46] <argument> hahahah... using wine for torrent? omg that's kinda lame...
[10:46] <Corporal_Dirge> Hoxzer, I use Azuerus since it runs on Java.
[10:46] <technel> lamego, If I open a terminal and type "ruby script/breakpointer", it does not close right away, I don't understand why it is impossible for me to ask for this behavior from a bash script
[10:46] <argument> Hoxzer, try Azureus first
[10:46] <bruenig> will somebody do ls /etc | grep cron and tell me if cron.allow is part of the output or not
[10:46] <DrBanzai> Anybody here know about minicom?  Or is there a better alternative?
[10:46] <carlos> i have installed xgl in ubuntu 606, 686kernel, when i press the alt key of my keyboard the active windows moves to the next desktop, if there is no active window then the main desktop crash, any idea??
[10:47] <lamego> technel, because it is not expected to be, if you want it to keep open, add a "read" command on the script that runs on the terminal
[10:47] <FurryNemesis> Hoxzer, or bitornado
[10:47] <argument> Hoxzer, i don't like Azureus because it requires java but otherwise it's better than trying to run some lame stuff through wine
[10:47] <mc_> bruenig: it is
[10:47] <bruenig> mc_ thanks
[10:47] <lamego> tech09, just append a "read" to the script/breakpointer
[10:47] <argument> Hoxzer, besides... you should just go get vmware instead of wine
[10:47] <mc_> bruenig: you're welcome
[10:48] <carlos> i suspect that my keyboard was not wel configured but all the keys works right, so i thought the problem is with xgl
[10:48] <carlos> my sistem is a acer travelmate 4670 laptop
[10:48] <lamego> !! xgl > carlos
[10:48] <technel> lamego, gnome-terminal -e "read" & -<-- does not stay open
[10:49] <Hoxzer> argument: utorrent is said to work just fine with wine
[10:49] <sc0tty> ok, so it seems my menu won't display some items, such as the add/remove menu, the users menu, ... most of the Administration infact
[10:49] <argument> technel, are you trying to make a panel launcher or somethign?
[10:49] <bobovski> later all
[10:49] <Hoxzer> argument: :/ so I dont wanna use space just to run utorrent
[10:49] <technel> argument, A panel launcher?
[10:49] <technel> argument,  All I want is to type "./launch_whatever" and a few terminals pop open with the command sexecuted
[10:49] <lamego> technel, hum, ok, i am puzlled now :P
[10:49] <technel> argument, Without closing after completion
[10:50] <technel> lamego, And just for the record, script/breakpointer is not something that exits right away, it actually *should* run until killed
[10:50] <lamego> tech09, if you put "read" on a script, it does work, it does ketp open
[10:50] <argument> technel, i dunno man, if the -e application exits the terminal will exit... dunno how to change that... that would be a terminal specific question probably
[10:50] <argument> technel, for example gnome-terminal -e "vim" works fine
[10:51] <sc0tty> huh lol, if I move my elements out and back into the menu it works . I guess it must be a weird behavior of Alacarte
[10:51] <lamego> technel, read is a bash command, you can't use with -e
[10:51] <technel> argument, Indeed it does, but -e "read" doesn't
[10:51] <lamego> tech09, because, it is not something executable
[10:52] <technel> lamego, So....how do I execute a bash cmd?
[10:52] <pluma> I seem to get seemingly random timeouts when attempting to lookup domain names. Specifically, this occurs with Sun's download server, Macromedia's download server and any version of Wikipedia. This occurs both in Firefox and Network Tools, although the latter works fine with domains (i.e. wikipedia.org works, www.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org time out). I've disabled IPv6 as per the wiki article's instructions both via the terminal and in Fir
[10:52] <tjb891> ok, so i installed the doomlegacy packages and the shareware doom wad, how do i play doom now?
[10:52] <Elda> Meh, sorry to bother.  But Ive been crawling the forums and have not been able to figure out where one would obtain codecs?  Because I find that I am unable to run some of the anime discs I have in here since I do not have the correct codecs -_-
[10:52] <Arclite> I have a problem. I have 50 Breezy CDs and no idea what to do with them.
[10:52] <Elda> Send them out?
[10:52] <xepher> Arclite, make a wallpaper out of them using zipties
[10:52] <lamego> tech09, you create a script with it
[10:53] <Elda> Or just give them out at random, to see how many people actually start using it xD
[10:53] <zoidberg> hey guys just a lil problem
[10:53] <technel> lamego, Are you actually talking to tech09 or me?
[10:53] <zoidberg> for some reason when i run Ogle
[10:53] <zoidberg> and it runs fine
[10:53] <lamego> technel, you
[10:53] <Arclite> But they're Breezy CDs, and outdated. I don't know anyone who wants them.
[10:53] <anze> hello > *
[10:53] <zoidberg> i dont see the GUI toolbar you know the thing that says play pause forward rewind and stuff like that
[10:53] <zoidberg> ?
[10:53] <ProN00b> Arclite, use them as frisbees
[10:53] <zoidberg> any ideas what is going on
[10:53] <technel> lamego, So...I create a script with the bash command? So I have a script calling a terminal that calls another one-line script?
[10:53] <Elda> Make vertical blinds out of them?
[10:53] <Routh> Is there a way to install the new ubuntu/kubuntu systems without booting from the Live CD? The live CD does not seem to work on 128mb ram...
[10:54] <Ademan> anyone have a reference to how to install doom 3 on linux? the cd doesn't appear to have a linux install script or a linux install binary
[10:54] <Elda> Doom 3 is a nasty, and ignorant failure by ID games >.>
[10:54] <argument> Ademan, look into Cedega dude
[10:54] <mc_> argument: doom3 runs native on linux
[10:54] <tjb891> Elda: its in the ubuntu wiki i believe, search doom3
[10:54] <zoidberg> can anyone help me out
[10:54] <zoidberg> ?
[10:54] <argument> Ademan, it's cheap and it's basically the best option you have for windows games on linux
[10:55] <Elda> I dont want to put doom3 on here >.<
[10:55] <Elda> I want nothing to do with doom 3 >.>
[10:55] <zoidberg> i cant see the toolbar in OGLE when i run it...it runs fine but i dont see it...the DVD just starts playing automatically when i run OGLE
[10:55] <zoidberg> ?
[10:55] <lamego> technel, yes, because you are trying to create  a gui like function with text terminals :)
[10:55] <kingrayray> MPD system service not installed
[10:55] <kingrayray> so how do i install it?
[10:55] <kingrayray> (said that when i installed mpd)
[10:55] <Routh> anyone know?
[10:55] <zoidberg> alright forget that
[10:55] <Elda> Would there be anything about codecs on ubuntu wiki?
[10:56] <zoidberg> does anyone knwo what the package is for Powerbook buttons
[10:56] <zoidberg> ?
[10:56] <technel> lamego, I am trying to launch a terminal, how exactly is that a gui like function? It is creating a new window, yes, obviously, but...
[10:56] <Routh> Is there a way to install the new ubuntu/kubuntu systems without booting from the Live CD? Anyone?
[10:56] <pluma> Routh: RTFM? I think there's an article on that in the wiki. ;)
[10:56] <zoidberg> Routh, yes there is i did it myself but unfortunaetly i forgot
[10:57] <chamo> !ati
[10:57] <Ademan> arguement: but there ARE linux binaries for Doom 3 I know that for a fact
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <zoidberg> there is a wiki article on it
[10:57] <zoidberg> u will be using the apt-get install commands
[10:57] <lamego> tech09, the terminal is getting closed because your program you are running ends !
[10:57] <zoidberg> at least thats how i did it
[10:57] <argument> Ademan, why are you telling me? so go find/get them.
[10:57] <Routh> pluma: Been googling for hours and haven't found a thing - can you point me to the article?
[10:57] <Thunderpants> zoidberg, on the ogle question, if u delete the hidden .ogle folder in your home dir, next time u start the app u will have a fresh copy
[10:57] <Elda> Hmm well bbl
[10:57] <pluma> Routh: am looking.
[10:57] <lguerra> Hello, someone can collaborate me with the theme of control of wide of band? I have read about tc and shaperd, but I do not understand as to do it
[10:57] <zoidberg> can i see it if its hidden Thunderpants
[10:58] <Thunderpants> view>show hidden files
[10:58] <ompaul> pluma, please don't use that "phrase" return a url to the user in question or say nothing, thanks :)
[10:58] <ompaul> !install > Routh
[10:59] <ompaul> Routh, you will find a useful url from the bot "ubotu"
[10:59] <technel> lamego, Whatever, it takes me ~30 seconds to launch these programs every day and I just wasted about 1.5 hrs so it is probably best for me to just do it manually, as it won't be worth any more time
[10:59] <pluma> Routh: Tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation ?
[10:59] <technel> lamego, But thanks for your help
[10:59] <pluma> ompaul: But I love the fine manual.
[11:00] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, there is no view<show hidden files in my GNOME terminal...i have breezy by the way
[11:00] <Thunderpants> zoidberg, do it in nautilus, u may have to fo thru edit>pref
[11:00] <daaku> anyone using the fixedsys excelsior font? i'm trying to find a larger version of the same thing (changing the font size messes it up)
[11:00] <zoidberg> where is nautilus
[11:01] <Thunderpants> its the file manager like explorer
[11:01] <lostinc> Hmm I looked at the xorg.conf file and I have a laptop (not so great but not to bad) It has on it a SiS M760 + SIS 963L with 15" XGA (1024 x  768) TFT LCD display. Is there a way to better configure my xorg.conf file for this?
[11:01] <chamo> gtg
[11:02] <maria> anyone can help me please , a few minutes ago i was playing my music in the xmms , but now i cant , the music play very fast and i dont listening to someting , the plugin i select was the same that i had all the time , any suggestions please?
[11:02] <exs> Let me know what you think of my idea! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1402073#post1402073
[11:02] <pluma> In case someone missed it the last seven days or so: I seem to get seemingly random timeouts when attempting to lookup domain names. Specifically, this occurs with Sun's download server, Macromedia's download server and any version of Wikipedia. This occurs both in Firefox and Network Tools, although the latter works fine with domains (i.e. wikipedia.org works, www.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org time out). I've disabled IPv6 as per the wiki ar
[11:03] <mariaaa> someone can help me with this problem??
[11:03] <exs> mariaaa:  say it.
[11:03] <iter> mariaaa: try another music program to test
[11:03] <mariaaa> anyone can help me please , a few minutes ago i was playing my music in the xmms , but now i cant , the music play very fast and i dont listening to someting , the plugin i select was the same that i had all the time , any suggestions please?
[11:04] <iter> something like totem or amarok
[11:04] <mariaaa> i try with mplayer and it was the same
[11:04] <mariaaa> all the computers saound are off
[11:04] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, the ogle folder is in /usr/share not in /home
[11:04] <mariaaa> sounds*
[11:04] <zoidberg> and why do i want to delete it?
[11:04] <jrib> pluma: you got cut off at '... as per the wiki ar'
[11:04] <lostinc> Whats the diff between suspend and hibernate?
[11:05] <weirdo> how do i convert a .run file to .deb so i can install it?
[11:05] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, why do i want to delete it...
[11:05] <iter> mariaaa: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15897.html
[11:05] <pluma> jrib: I've disabled IPv6 as per the wiki article's instructions both via the terminal and in Firefox's about:config. The lookups work fine on the Windows boxen on the same network with identical DNS settings (DNS = the local router, which is set up properly). I'd appreciate any constructive idea that might contribute to the solution of this major miff.
[11:05] <iter> does that sound like your problem
[11:05] <lamego> weirdo, you run it, but with checkinstall
[11:05] <lamego> !! checkinstall > weirdo
[11:05] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me a program to record my desktop?
[11:05] <ompaul> pluma, (sorry got diverted) we actually don't use that phrase here, we have so many diverse users at every level of experiance that for some of them the manual is an alien concept, it is what allows the massive growth afics
[11:05] <weirdo> do i need to convert it?
[11:05] <zoidberg> Thunderpants, why do i want to delete the Ogle folder....its in usr/share by the way
[11:06] <ompaul> pluma, looks like wherever your pulling your dns info from is shakey
[11:06] <zoidberg> do you guys know whats the package to download to make Powerbook buttons to work...such as volume buttons and brightness buttons
[11:06] <iter> pluma: what's in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:07] <pluma> ompaul: But it's not. It works fine on the Windows boxen and the router works properly and doesn't have any quirks.
[11:07] <iter> also, are you using dhcp or static
[11:07] <ompaul> pluma, as per iter
[11:07] <pluma> iter: just what you'd expect. DNS and domain. Both correct.
[11:08] <pluma> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, that's the router.
[11:08] <iter> and it's only a couple sites?
[11:08] <pluma> iter: static IP.
[11:08] <iter> everything else works 100%?
[11:08] <Tangent1> I need help
[11:08] <Tangent1> I tried to dual-boot my system with Ubuntu and XP
[11:09] <Tangent1> but when I had installed XP, all of a sudden I can't boot
[11:09] <iter> Tangent1: boot from xp cd, into recovery console, run fdisk /mbr and fixboot
[11:09] <Tangent1> I think the problem might be that GRUB is now missing, as all of my files are still intact
[11:09] <pluma> iter: Essentially, yes, that's what it looks like. Wikipedia seems affected and some sub-domains (java.sun.com works, but the download server subdomain of sun.com doesn't).
[11:09] <pluma> iter: All that works, works fine.
[11:09] <Tangent1> how can I install GRUB again?
[11:09] <mariaaa> how can i  Update the plugins for my mp3 player.??
[11:10] <iter> Tangent1: if you insist you can use something like the ultimate bootcd to install another bootloader in the mbr
[11:10] <kingrayray> guys, I installed MPD and it says "MPD system service not installed" so how do i install it? i want mpd to start on boot..
[11:10] <iter> but why not just go back to windows one
[11:10] <iter> pluma: ouch
[11:10] <iter> pluma: check /etc/hosts too of course
[11:10] <Mirrado> Tangentl, you need a live CD and a chroot to your instaled partition
[11:10] <Tangent1> iter: all I need is for linux to work
[11:10] <iter> but if you're only having problems with one or two hosts ...
[11:11] <iter> ohhh
[11:11] <pluma> iter: What doesn't make sense is that it seems to be absolutely arbitrary. They all work fine on my WinXP box and the other machines (MacOS X, Win98)
[11:11] <iter> Tangent1: just start from cd again
[11:11] <DrBanzai> Can sombody help me trouble shoot a serial port problem?
[11:11] <Tangent1> which CD?
[11:11] <iter> install grub
[11:11] <iter> ubuntu
[11:11] <Tangent1> the Windows cd?
[11:11] <Tangent1> alright
[11:11] <Mirrado> Ubuntu CD
[11:11] <Tangent1> all I have is my old Breezy CD, should that still work?
[11:11] <iter> no, basically windows overwrites mbr
[11:11] <mariaaa> how can i  Update the plugins for my mp3 player.??
[11:11] <ompaul> Tangent1, yes
[11:11] <Tangent1> alright
[11:12] <iter> mariaaa: try the other steps, as per right below that issue
[11:12] <Tangent1> and should I just skip all the first few steps up until the Install GRUB?
[11:12] <pluma> iter: localhost <computer>, <computer> and the IPv6 lines, which should be redundant as I disabled IPv6 the way the wiki article told me to.
[11:12] <iter> Tangent1: yes, all you're interested in is getting grub back in the mbr
[11:12] <Routh> None of those links seem to have anything that addresses my issue - The only thing that cam close was the installing on a lowmem computer, however the cd does not seem to want to boot with the commands given in the documentation - My issue is that the live cd boots - but once it has the desktop loaded there is not enough memory left for it to open the installer program.. did the developers not leave the old text based installer from olde
[11:12] <Tangent1> alright
[11:12] <Tangent1> thanks
[11:12] <Tangent1> I'll try that
[11:12] <Tangent1> brb
[11:13] <lostinc> IUs there a graphical way to have ubuntu detect my video card?
[11:13] <ompaul> Routh, what are the specs for the machine? (you can do a server isntall)
[11:13] <iter> pluma: ouch that's a toughie
[11:13] <fdr> hello... please, how do I get to the "settings" windows for the screensaver that was there in ubuntu 5.10 ? I am using 6.06 now and the screensaver panel shows very little options.... thank you!
[11:13] <jrib> Routh: use the alternate install cd
[11:13] <Routh> ompaul: It's a celeron 466mhz, 128MB's ram - 40gb drive
[11:13] <iter> pluma: I mean, sounds like a bug, but for all the other folks that don't seem to have that problem
[11:13] <pluma> iter: that's why I've been tearing my hair out for the past week. Well, not litterally.
[11:14] <jrib> fdr: you can use xscreensaver instead of the now default gnome-screensaver
[11:14] <pluma> iter: is there any way to get a verbose analysis of the lookup?
[11:14] <ompaul> Routh, so you really could try xubuntu with that much ram
[11:14] <mariaaa> iter i am ok with 1 and 2 , i need make the 3
[11:14] <iter> pluma: use dig
[11:14] <fdr> jrib, thx, how do I do that?
[11:15] <iter> mariaaa: look at the post right below that one
[11:15] <jrib> fdr: just install xscreensaver, it should automatically remove gnome-screensaver
[11:15] <iter> mariaaa: step 3 may not be necessary
[11:15] <jrib> fdr: are you familiar with installing things using synaptic or apt-get?
[11:15] <DrBanzai> Hey all, I've got 2 different serial devices, neither of which is a modem.  One is a homebrew MP3 player, the other is my ethernet switch.  I know for a fact that the MP3 player does not need a null modem adapter, as it works great under Hyperterm without the null adapter.  I can't get either one to work under ubuntu, with minicom, nor gtkterm.  Any advice?
[11:15] <pluma> iter: on Wikipedia subdomains I get ";; reply from unexpected source: <IP_ADDRESS>#53, expected <IP_ADDRESS>:53". wikipedia.org works normal.
[11:15] <fdr> jrib, yup, apt-get install xscreensaver
[11:16] <mariaaa> iter , sorry :P , that means that now i must restart (sorry i dont understand so much english)
[11:16] <Routh> ompaul: KDE and Gnome should be able to run in a 128mb environment - What about said alternate-install cd - I assume it's available for download on the ubuntu servers... does it have the old text based install?
[11:16] <ompaul> Routh, afik it does
[11:16] <pluma> iter: that IP seems to be the ISP. At least it's a German server.
[11:16] <fdr> jrib, but it didnt remove gnome-screensaver.... now, how I do I get the old settings panel, please?
[11:17] <ompaul> Routh, the ultimate is to install the "server" version and add >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << after that
[11:17] <iter> pluma: right, that definitely sounds like a router problem then
[11:17] <iter> pluma: try without the router to test
[11:17] <iter> pluma: plug that ubuntu box straight into your modem or put it in the dmz
[11:17] <pluma> iter: how? I don't have a modem card and the router is, like, a hundred meters away.
[11:17] <pluma> iter: dmz?
[11:18] <Tangent1> alright
[11:18] <Routh> ompaul: ok - I was attempting that but could not seem to get the install cd to like the command - documentation just says type server and go - which would work on the breezy cd - but on the dapper cd it gives me an error
[11:18] <iter> pluma: yeah router should have a dmz function to expose an internal IP to the net
[11:18] <Tangent1> it went to the disk partitioning tool
[11:18] <jrib> fdr: oh, maybe it lets you install both... I would remove gnome-screensaver then.  Do you have more than one screensaver option in your menu now?
[11:18] <Tangent1> how should I configure it for the boot loader?
[11:18] <pluma> It's a DrayTek Vigor2200 router if that helps =P
[11:18] <ompaul> Routh, I would not run ubuntu (GNOME) without 256megs and I note the install cd suggest 192megs
[11:18] <iter> Tangent1: you don't want to partition anything at all
[11:18] <pluma> What's DMZ short for?
[11:18] <iter> pluma: demilitarized zone heh