[15:24] <Saviq> are there some issues with LP known at the moment? the diff in https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/sliderStyleRTL/+merge/309461 isn't displayed and we're getting a 503 when trying to click on "Download link"
[15:24] <Saviq> s/link/diff/
[20:02] <kinkie> Hi all, I hope someone can help me with a problem. I'm using bzr 2.7.0 on mac; when I try to checkout a branch from launchpad (bzr co lp:~user/project/branch), bzr will just sit there forever and do nothing. Any clue about what it may be? I can check out just fine using https://code.launchpad.net/~user/prioject/branch but obviously can't then commit to the branch. Thanks!
[20:08] <dobey> kinkie: ssh -v bazaar.launchpad.net to see if it complains about anything
[20:09] <kinkie> hmm.. it stops at "offering ECDSA public key"
[20:10] <kinkie> which leads me to https://bugs.launchpad.net/lazr.sshserver/+bug/830679. Good hint!
[20:10] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 830679 in lazr.sshserver "Launchpad Bazaar server -- hangs on SSH ECDSA authentication" [High,Triaged]
[20:11] <kinkie> Thank you very much for your help
[20:11] <dobey> np
[20:14] <kinkie> bye :)


[19:57] <qwebirc91890> just created a new frontend (linux intel)  mythfrontend says can't create audio device?
[19:58] <qwebirc91890> logs say something about Directx!
[20:04] <qwebirc91890> I tried running with aoss


[03:36] <Azeban> Hello hello hello. and good evening
[17:07] <Azeban> Hello hello hello.
[17:08] <Azeban> good afternoon


[04:38] <Thr0r> Hello Eickmeyer! Long Time.. I read that UbuntuStudio is now one the most recommended Distro's out there now.. I'm happy for you! This is your "baby" isn't it?
[05:32] <Eickmeyer> Hey Thr0r! Yeah, kindof. Not originally mine, but I adopted it. Only been working on it for the past year-and-a-half.
[05:40] <Thr0r> Eickmeyer : Ok - Anyways I am happy for you! You must have done good work on it.  Question: do you have a link to the article?
[06:04] <Thr0r> Eickmeyer : YES - https://www.techradar.com/best/best-linux-distros  Nr.7. And that is just not "any" page..
[06:06] <Thr0r> I don't understand this Elementary OS - They are asking for money? That is not "Linux-like"..
[06:09] <Thr0r> That is from september 2019..
[06:14] <OerHeks> ubuntu did/does ask for a donation when you download the iso, nothing new
[06:19] <Thr0r> Ok - I have never seen that before - I had to register with mail and credit card to download Elementary - that was "kind of" new to me.
[06:19] <Thr0r> Oerheks - that was a reply to you.. ;)
[06:21] <Thr0r> Eickmeyer: On the download page it says: "The minimum of RAM required for Ubuntu Studio is 1 GB"....  You might want to change that to - maybe 6GB or 8? .. 1GB is not going to work..
[06:28] <OvenWerks> for many things 1 G will work... perhaps not anything and more is always better. 2G might be a better minimum but I have run with less than 1G ok.
[06:29] <OvenWerks> 250M is ok for headless work, surprisingly enough.
[06:32] <Thr0r> Sure - I run on 1,8GB - but then I cannot use applications like those in Ubuntu Studio.. Now i use Lubuntu - that is very good and maybe the solution to the environmental/climate issue.. re-use of old computers..
[06:33] <Thr0r> ..but now the dowload page for Lubuntu is down..
[06:42] <Thr0r> Eickmeyer: Did you see that web page? I'm kind of surprised that they did not contact you?
[06:57] <Thr0r> OvenWerks: You are the "master of sound" as I see it.. I have installed Lubuntu. Pulse Audio has taken the control of the system sound. How can I disable that and get back the control of sound from Pulse Audio?
[09:38] <Thr0r> ?


[01:51] <zoopster> hola
[01:53] <itnet7> Hey there zoopster !
[02:00] <itnet7> Hey there govatent !
[02:01] <zoopster> hiya itnet7
[02:01] <itnet7> How's it going?
[02:02] <govatent> hey guys
[02:02] <govatent> made it just in time.
[02:02] <govatent> this week just won't end
[02:02] <itnet7> govatent: I wouldn't worry about it too much, no one has added any agenda items
[02:02] <govatent> i have people asking me for favors left and right. have not even had time to load ubuntu on my new laptop yet
[02:03] <govatent> We can still bring up things that were not added right?
[02:03] <itnet7> Oh of course!
[02:03] <govatent> ill brb. left my cell phone in my car.
[02:04] <itnet7> k
[02:06] <govatent> ok i am ready
[02:06] <itnet7> Well, I'm not sure how many are here
[02:06] <govatent> how was your ride up?
[02:06] <itnet7> It was not bad at all
[02:07] <itnet7> I actually went with RoAkSoAx on a 90 minute boat tour of Fisher Island(s)
[02:07] <govatent> NICE! I love those tours. its really nice
[02:07] <govatent> I know a friend that works as a mac tech for a house on the island
[02:07] <itnet7> cool
[02:09] <govatent> Can I pm you?
[02:09] <itnet7> Sure
[02:09] <itnet7> anytime
[02:11] <zoopster> are we having a meeting?
[02:11] <zoopster> I actually showed up for once
[02:12] <itnet7> zoopster: I am not sure who's present. I didn't send out a notice, and unfortunately there's no real agenda to speak of
[02:13] <itnet7> govatent wanted to talk about some stuff though
[02:13] <zoopster> well...put me on the record as being here, please.
[02:13] <itnet7> sSo we can talk about it, if he wants to!
[02:13] <govatent> :)
[02:13] <govatent> zoopster: i saw you. :)
[02:14] <zoopster> thanks govatent!
[02:14] <zoopster> ok back to packaging now...lovely
[02:15] <itnet7> There's Chloric
[02:15] <itnet7> !!!
[02:15] <chloric> evening itnet
[02:15] <govatent> chloric: bellsouth.net!!! :P
[02:15] <chloric> evening florida
[02:16] <chloric> whats going on?
[02:16] <chloric> have you guys finished the agenda??
[02:16] <itnet7>    chloric nothing really was added
[02:16] <govatent> Chloric, i wanted to talk about starting to pick a day for our monthly meetings. I would like to host a soflo ubuntu blog, maybe a bi-weekly podcast of ubuntu south florida, or florida. and a few other ideas I was thinking about after our cafe meetup
[02:16] <chloric> want to make next months hour for the 17th??
[02:16] <itnet7> govatent: Sweet!!
[02:17] <itnet7> Were you guys serious about having another meetup the week before Christmas at PLC?
[02:17] <chloric> yeah, we're serious :)
[02:18] <chloric> lets do it on the 17th or 18th
[02:18] <govatent> let me open a calendar app so i can see what day it lands on
[02:18] <chloric> sat/sun
[02:18] <govatent> instead of doing a day, could we say like the second saterday of every month?
[02:19] <itnet7> I think if we were to begin pluggin that day we can get a bunch more people to go
[02:19] <chloric> well, remember this months meeting landed late in the month
[02:19] <itnet7> chloric: Yeah!
[02:19] <chloric> so lets not space the next one too close to the first
[02:19] <govatent> maybe the next one could be a forced date, but i think picking the second saterday of every month would be better because if we use numbers it won't land on a weekend always
[02:19] <chloric> after that, we can space them more accordingly
[02:20] <chloric> can Jorge Castro hookup the store with some swag??
[02:20] <itnet7> jcastro: ping
[02:20] <govatent> before we talk about that, lets get our dates sorted out.
[02:20] <govatent> i think
[02:20] <chloric> we said he would try
[02:20] <chloric> next on the 17th
[02:20] <jcastro> itnet7: yo
[02:20] <govatent> i am sure he will likely get us something
[02:20] <govatent> hey jcastro
[02:21] <itnet7> chloric, I'm not sure he can in time.... but he might be able to
[02:21] <itnet7> Hey there!!
[02:21] <chloric> then the third on Jan. 14th
[02:21] <chloric> Also, there is apparently a Palm Beach LUG
[02:21] <itnet7> The guys were talking about doing another event at the Planet Linux Caffe, on the weekend of Dec 17-18
[02:21] <chloric> I didnt know about them
[02:21] <govatent> there is also a soflo lug
[02:22] <itnet7> is there a chance we might be able to get some swag by then for the store?
[02:22] <jcastro> send me a mail
[02:22] <jcastro> (sorry I am in the middle of some testing)
[02:22] <itnet7> will do
[02:23] <itnet7> no worries
[02:23] <chloric> no problem
[02:23] <itnet7> charms/
[02:23] <itnet7> ?
[02:23] <chloric> Next hour, i want to set up a IRC channel
[02:23] <chloric> and a G+ Hangout
[02:24] <itnet7> chloric / govatent maybe we can do a holiday party or just dub it a Team Party
[02:24] <itnet7> at Planet Linux Caffe
[02:25] <chloric> that sounds good. So, lets one the 17th of dec. and 14of jan.
[02:25] <chloric> let's set up a G+ Hangout
[02:25] <itnet7> You don't have to, I was just thinking that it might inspire families to come out
[02:25] <govatent> I need to learn hangout
[02:25] <govatent> so our next meetup is the 17th for sure?
[02:27] <itnet7> chloric: for the meetup
[02:27] <itnet7> ?
[02:28] <chloric> yeah
[02:28] <govatent> cool
[02:29] <chloric> for the third one, we need to do a becast
[02:29] <chloric> webcast***
[02:29] <itnet7> I would like to play with the hangout thing a bit beforehand, I've only joined one or two during the beginning stages of g+
[02:29] <itnet7> chloric: that would Rock!!
[02:29] <itnet7> I have a great webcam
[02:29] <itnet7> for streaming
[02:29] <govatent> I have a 720p cam. if it counts for anything.
[02:29] <govatent> although?.its the ms one. :P
[02:30] <govatent> i got it for 10 bucks marked down from 60 or 70
[02:30] <govatent> could not turn that down
[02:30] <itnet7> govatent: yours probably is better than mine!
[02:31] <bluebomber> Evening, all!
[02:31] <itnet7> Hey there bluebomber !
[02:31] <govatent> hey bluebomber. want some candy?
[02:31] <itnet7> ROFL
[02:31] <itnet7> bluebomber: govatent received that candy in the mail!
[02:32] <govatent> after the meeting on the 17th, can we agree to pick like the second saterday of each month of the meetups from then on?
[02:32] <govatent> or do we just pick a date every meeting?
[02:32] <bluebomber> Oh, no nononononono.
[02:32] <bluebomber> (to the candy)
[02:32] <govatent> lol
[02:32] <govatent> :)
[02:32] <govatent> i will even drive it up to you if you wish
[02:33] <bluebomber> In fact, these pretzels that I'm munching just mysteriously started to taste like that candy at its mere mention.
[02:33] <itnet7> bluebomber: lol
[02:34] <govatent> bluebomber: http://fazer.angrybirds.com/
[02:35] <itnet7> govatent: that's awesome
[02:35] <bluebomber> lol
[02:35] <bluebomber> This isn't a meeting, right <scrolls up/>
[02:36] <govatent> it is. just got sidetracked
[02:36] <govatent> i was waiting to get an answer to a question
[02:36] <govatent> if chloric is still awake :P
[02:37] <itnet7> bluebomber: no official agenda, so really informal
[02:37] <itnet7> Well, Count me in for the 17th, Hopefully I'll bring my family, and fill the other seats in the van!
[02:37] <bluebomber> OK, cool.
[02:37] <govatent> great.
[02:38] <bluebomber> I'm in a meeting with the US Pirate Party right now, too.
[02:38] <bluebomber> o.O*
[02:38] <govatent> NICE!!!
[02:38] <govatent> Give them some candy !
[02:38] <itnet7> lol
[02:38] <itnet7> argh
[02:38] <govatent> btw, i hate to say this, but i am liking osx.
[02:38] <itnet7> govatent: they remember the candy
[02:39] <itnet7> I might see if Bryanstein want's to come with
[02:40] <govatent> Is there a public place I can share ideas Id like to work on for the group to see?
[02:40] <itnet7> Well, you can either use the wiki, or come up with another idea... etherpad?
[02:41] <itnet7> or
[02:41] <chloric> sorry
[02:41] <chloric> i'm back
[02:41] <govatent> the loco wiki?
[02:41] <govatent> hey chlroic sorry to bug you
[02:42] <itnet7> Or you can begin a team discussion on the Ubuntu Forums Florida team section
[02:42] <itnet7> or www.ubuntu-fl.org even
[02:42] <govatent> chloric: Can we meet the second saterday of every month after? (Other than for special events like installs tests and stuff.)
[02:42] <chloric> yes
[02:43] <chloric> but the second weekend of next month might be too close the first meeting. alan, i said it twice before :p yes yes and yes
[02:43] <govatent> Ill add the next few months worth of meetups to a public spot
[02:43] <govatent> wanna do the third sat then?
[02:43] <chloric> no
[02:43] <itnet7> GGovatent,
[02:43] <chloric> second is fine
[02:43] <itnet7> put them on the LoCo Directory
[02:43] <zoopster> I'd just keep it consistent...don't worry about dec
[02:44] <itnet7> then aadvertise them on g+ and facebook both
[02:44] <govatent> ok. so second sat of each month it is. i will work heavily on adverts
[02:44] <itnet7> have the registration on the LoCo Team Portal I mean
[02:44] <bluebomber> I'm pretty good with whatever.
[02:44] <bluebomber> (non-conflicting opinion)
[02:44] <govatent> lol your going to drive to soflo? :)
[02:45] <govatent> I was thinking about also doing a mailing list for soflo
[02:45] <govatent> I have a little list here of things i want to work on for soflo / fl
[02:45] <chloric> alan, theres a Palm Beach LoCo
[02:45] <govatent> oh ?i think it was a lug not an ubuntu loco?
[02:45] <govatent> thought*
[02:46] <itnet7> There is a lug
[02:46] <chloric> i said lug, not ubuntu :p
[02:46] <chloric> but why discriminate
[02:46] <govatent> true. but i thought the point of a loco was to push ubuntu?
[02:46] <chloric> not exactly
[02:47] <chloric> at least not in my opinion
[02:47] <govatent> I met with the south florida lug and they were split on their views of ubuntu when i went to one of their meetups
[02:47] <chloric> then lets not push ubuntu as the only system... like I have always believed.
[02:48] <govatent> itnet7 what do you say?
[02:48] <chloric> let's see if they can come down. after all, the place is Planet Linux Cafe, not Planet Ubuntu Cafe :P
[02:48] <govatent> agreed.
[02:49] <itnet7> It depends in a way
[02:49] <itnet7> if you plan to do a Florida Team Event, it would be fine to have others join us
[02:50] <itnet7> but I don't think you should have a Florida Team event and push a different distro to everyone. With that being said, everyone would be welcome to come
[02:51] <itnet7> There's nothing wrong with doing a South Florida Event though
[02:52] <chloric> I think it should be a meetup HOSTED by the Florida LoCo, therefore it is Linux oriented for any distro with knowledge that the Ubuntu LoCo of Florida is organizing it
[02:53] <govatent> I just don't want to start a distro war. I am glad talking open source in general.
[02:54] <chloric> That's my point. It's just an event HOSTED by the Ubuntu Florida LoCo
[02:54] <itnet7> That doesn't sound bad
[02:54] <chloric> how so?
[02:55] <govatent> ok i get it
[02:55] <chloric> oops, I misread
[02:55] <govatent> lol of course you did :p
[02:55] <govatent> troll
[02:55] <chloric> Yeah, so I think thats how it should roll
[02:55] <chloric> An even at the Linux Caffee for anything OSS hosted by us.
[02:56] <itnet7> ?
[02:56] <itnet7> An event at?
[02:56] <chloric> Thats so it can remain as neutral as possible without starting any distro wars.
[02:56] <chloric> Planet Linux Caffee
[02:57] <itnet7> I was trying to read the sentence that you had typed I didn't know if it was supposed to be, "And even", or An event"
[02:57] <itnet7> Distro Wars arent' constructive
[02:57] <chloric> an event*
[02:58] <govatent> yea we are trying to avoid a distro war with our events. we went to leave them netural. not just ubuntu based. i think
[02:59] <chloric> so that settles it :)
[02:59] <govatent> chloric: we should just meet up soon to get things started. I am taking notes of what has to be done. i have a few ideas i also would like to chat with you about in person.
[02:59] <govatent> maybe this weekend or something we can meet. ill drive to you
[02:59] <itnet7> That's fine, just remember that we are supposed to be Advocates of Ubuntu
[03:00] <chloric> it will have to be sunday it i get back from camping sunday
[03:00] <govatent> itnet7 that's my point. how do we advocate ubuntu while not starting distro wars if we invite the lugs
[03:00] <chloric> We advocate Ubuntu by sponsoring the event
[03:00] <chloric> thats hpw
[03:00] <govatent> i guess.
[03:00] <chloric> how*
[03:00] <itnet7> exactly
[03:00] <bluebomber> We also could require proof of ubuntu installation for entering the premise.
[03:01] <govatent> ok. then that is all good.
[03:01] <itnet7> ROFL
[03:01] <bluebomber> XD
[03:01] <itnet7> bluebomber +1 LOL
[03:01] <govatent> no to get in you just need to eat some candy
[03:01] <chloric> xD we need an Ubuntu Bouncer
[03:01] <bluebomber> chloric: THIS.
[03:01] <govatent> lol
[03:02] <crashsystems> greetings florida
[03:02] <itnet7> Hey there crashsystems !
[03:02] <chloric> greetings!
[03:02] <bluebomber> Hi, crashsystems.
[03:03] <zoopster> hey crashsystems assimilated into CA yet?
[03:03] <govatent> hey crashsystems!!
[03:03] <crashsystems> yep. getting ready to move apartments to mountain view next month
[03:03] <zoopster> nice
[03:03] <itnet7> crashsystems: sweet!!
[03:03] <govatent> would you house a visitor in the future?
[03:04] <crashsystems> there is a bunch of google people in that area, for obvious reasons
[03:04] <crashsystems> possibly. I'd have to see what my housing situation was like first
[03:04] <zoopster> heh...lot's of all kinds of techies in that area...
[03:04] <crashsystems> yeah
[03:04] <crashsystems> are you thinking of making a trip up here govatent ?
[03:04] <govatent> in the future don't see why not
[03:05] <govatent> nothing for now. i might go to dc in december. my family wants to go
[03:05] <govatent> but i don't know if ill go
[03:05] <zoopster> yeesh...dc in december...cold, cold, cold
[03:06] <zoopster> dc in spring...cherry blossoms
[03:06] <itnet7> Have to go, gnight all!!
[03:06] <zoopster> see ya itnet7
[03:06] <govatent> good night itnet7 thanks for your help
[03:06] <itnet7> govatent: no problem!
[03:06] <itnet7> talk with you soon!!
[03:07] <govatent> yup
[03:08] <chloric> see ya later it
[03:08] <itnet7> talk with you soon chloric, peace!
[03:09] <govatent> chloric, ill hit you up later to figure so we can chill and talk about this some more before the 17th rolls around
[03:12] <chloric> we can try for this sunday
[03:12] <chloric> i'll give you a heads up though
[03:12] <chloric> meet at the cafe?
[03:16] <govatent> sure that would be wicked
[03:16] <govatent> ok guys i am out . have to do some things
[03:17] <govatent> night everyone
[18:21] <govatent> itnet7: ping
[18:22] <govatent> can someone tell me how to upgrade a debian system to kernel 3?
[18:25] <RoAkSoAx> govatent: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:25] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[18:39] <maxolase1squad> http://www.pixoulphotography.com/2011/11/23/official-uds-p-group-photo-and-personal-photo-set/
[18:39] <maxolase1squad> The UDS group photos are finally up.
[18:39] <govatent> nice!!!
[18:40] <maxolase1squad> I've found you and choloric.
[18:40] <govatent> thanks for the link maxo
[18:40] <govatent> want some candy?
[18:41] <maxolase1squad> Hmmm ...
[18:41] <govatent> the Finnish candy :P
[18:41] <govatent> i keep making jokes about it
[18:41] <maxolase1squad> I see balloon and mhall119 too
[18:42] <maxolase1squad> Dang, only my forhead made it in.
[18:43] <govatent> lol
[18:43] <govatent> i am on a very slow connection right now. takes forever to load one picture
[18:43] <maxolase1squad> It's probably your Mac.
[18:43]  * maxolase1squad runs for cover.
[18:45] <govatent> lol
[19:03] <maxolase1squad> Anyonelooking for a good laugh should start a G+ hangoung and turn on mustache.
[19:04] <maxolase1squad> You can join my hangout if you'd like, but I'm not available to actually hang out.
[19:06] <raubvogel> maxolase1squad: Excellent!
[19:07] <raubvogel> And, I did look good holding the warthog guy
[19:07] <raubvogel> maxolase1squad: I do have an evil moustache at home ;)
[19:08] <govatent> how do i join your hangout?
[19:10] <maxolase1squad> Visit my page thingy thing.
[19:11] <govatent> lol
[19:11] <maxolase1squad> https://plus.google.com/112112002891101502746
[19:11] <maxolase1squad> Profile page.
[19:14] <govatent> look at that, i did not add you as a friend on gplus
[19:17] <maxolase1squad> Accepted.
[19:25] <govatent> i can't find the hangout thing
[19:26] <maxolase1squad> You should see it in the right under "Hangouts"
[19:26] <maxolase1squad> "1 Hangout is live now!"
[19:28] <govatent> got it
[19:32] <govatent> google hangout is epic sweet!
[20:35] <maxolase1squad> Google confirms Galaxy Nexus will hit next month.
[20:36] <maxolase1squad> http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-launching-in-december-2011-11
[20:38] <govatent> gtg. take care. ill be on later
[20:39] <govatent> sweet. can't wait for people to start picking it up in the us


[12:35] <poningru> blargh
[01:07] <poningru> Ok so I contacted broadcom regarding them not allowing bcm43xx firmware distribution
[01:14] <rjian> weeeeeeeeeee
[01:14] <rjian> hello everyone
[01:45] <rikai> jenda, i was here when it was only 3-6 :P
[01:45] <rikai> you included. :D
[01:46] <rikai> poningru, how'd it turn out?
[02:15] <rikai> poningru, how'd it turn out?
[02:15] <poningru> I havent done the interview yet
[02:24] <rjian> hello somerville32
[02:25] <somerville32> Hello rjian
[02:26] <rjian> wat next somerville32 ? hehehe
[02:26] <somerville32> :)
[02:26] <somerville32> UWN 27 is brand new
[02:26] <somerville32> Just start editing
[02:26] <rjian> ok
[02:26] <somerville32> There are inline comments to help you
[02:44] <rjian> somerville32: can u check this site http://jucato.org/kde/ ? can we put it on UWN27 on what category?
[03:06] <somerville32> Madpilot, ping
[03:07] <Madpilot> hi somerville32
[03:07] <somerville32> Burgundavia?
[03:07] <Madpilot> was just going to call him
[03:07] <somerville32> :]
[03:11] <somerville32> Tell him UWN 26 is in queue and UWN 27 is underway and should be ready for release on the 8th
[03:12] <somerville32> Tell him we deferred feisty changes in UWN 26 (unfortunately)
[03:12] <somerville32> But the new magic is already working for UWN 27
[03:27] <Madpilot> somerville32, just called, he's not home from work yet, according to roommate
[03:27] <somerville32> kk
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> Corey has a roommate?
[03:32] <Madpilot> several, actually. large shared house, so stupidly cheap rent
[03:32] <somerville32> Could be... fun :]
[03:49] <Madpilot> his roommate seem like a generally sane bunch, thankfully
[03:54] <somerville32> :]
[03:59] <beuno> anyone around?
[04:00] <rjian> hello beuno
[04:00] <rjian> me here
[04:00] <rjian> hehe
[04:00] <beuno> hey there
[04:00] <rjian> also cody is here
[04:00] <rjian> hehe
[04:00] <beuno> hehe, you ratted him out
[04:00] <rjian> hahahaha
[04:01] <beuno> actually, Cody might be the right person to run this by
[04:01] <beuno> I have an idea
[04:02] <beuno> that is marketing related, but not exclusivly
[04:02] <beuno> "Ubuntu Live"
[04:02] <beuno> a page where you can go and see all the activity currently going on in ubuntu
[04:02] <beuno> live
[04:03] <somerville32> How would we get the info?
[04:03] <beuno> mailing lists, launchpad activity, forums, maybe IRC
[04:03] <beuno> well
[04:03] <beuno> we're going to need some help from every area
[04:03] <rjian> hehe
[04:03] <somerville32> How will the information being aggregated?
[04:03] <somerville32> *be
[04:04] <beuno> well
[04:04] <beuno> I'm thinking ajax frontend
[04:04] <beuno> and plugins for each type of information
[04:04] <beuno> it doesn't have to be terribly detailed
[04:04] <beuno> just somewhere you can actually see that Ubuntu is constantly moving
[04:05] <beuno> RSS will probably be a great way to start
[04:05] <beuno> and maybe talk to some launchpad devs
[04:05] <beuno> and see if they can provide some sort of API
[04:05] <beuno> so ppl can see translations flying through the screen
[04:05] <beuno> bug reports
[04:05] <beuno> bug fixes
[04:06] <beuno> I'm going to write a spec for it
[04:06] <beuno> just wanted some feedback
[04:06] <beuno> maybe it's interesting just to me, and not worth the effort
[04:07] <beuno> obviously the more we show, the more interesting
[04:08] <beuno> and maybe, just maybe
[04:08] <beuno> build an API that can be used elsewhere
[04:08] <beuno> so when you login into the forums
[04:08] <beuno> you would get a "44 bugs where fixed since your last visit"
[04:08] <beuno> ;D
[04:09] <rikai> beuno, ahh, a feed push as bug reports come in or something that causes a(gaim-im-style) scroll effect up the little 'bug reports' box(jsut anexample)?
[04:09] <beuno> rikai: yeap!
[04:09] <beuno> something like: http://www.digg.com/spy
[04:09] <beuno> but with more stuff on screen
[04:10] <beuno> numbers counting up and down
[04:10] <rikai> Yeah, thats exactly where i got that idea from... i had just forgotten digg gave it to me. :D
[04:10] <beuno> jenda?
[04:11] <beuno> he's probably sleeping at this point
[04:12] <somerville32> Do you guys want to gather some in the press stuff?
[04:12] <somerville32> Shall we move to Gobby?
[04:13] <beuno> sure, I got a while
[04:14] <rjian> me also ill login
[04:14] <beuno> password was?
[04:14] <somerville32> ufl@ftw
[04:14] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, Want to help?
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: sure
[04:15] <somerville32> Everyone to the bat cave! :D
[04:16] <rjian> somerville32: its still on 26?
[04:23] <somerville32> elkbuntu, ping
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: I'm not find this MIR process info - just a bunch of submitted inclusion Reports
[05:11] <somerville32> It is there :)
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> oh, but where...
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> wiki search was fruitless
[05:16] <somerville32> I'll get you the link
[05:17] <somerville32> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements
[05:17] <somerville32> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> why the devil would they put Ubuntu in front of that...
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> somerville32: any recommendations for interviewees besides cjwatson?
[05:28] <somerville32> some random coredev?
[06:00] <Madpilot> http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2007/01/the_dumbness_of.html
[06:02] <Madpilot> Creating Passionate Users is often worth reading
[06:10] <Rinchen> anyone know cody's launchpad id?
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> search for somerville?
[06:12] <Rinchen> yeah was looking for a lackey since I'm spec writing for him ;-)
[06:15] <Rinchen> found his wiki entry
[06:39] <Rinchen> For UWN folks:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/rosetta-stats-enhancement
[06:39] <Rinchen> approved by Cody for me to writeup yesterday
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: ping
[07:06] <nixternal> yo yo
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: So I see you use Wordpress.  Wanna tell me about it?
[07:08] <nixternal> what do you want to know?
[07:09] <nixternal> and how did you see that so quick?
[07:09] <nixternal> i must have finished that post right before the cron job ran
[07:10] <nixternal> hands down I think Wordpress is the best blogging solution there is. Very easy to configure and run, plus you can tweak it to your hearts desire
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: I'm omniscient.  Anyway, I'm looking to switch away from Xanga, so I'm taking in all kinds of information, including good plugins, themes, hosts, usage info, whatever.
[07:10] <nixternal> ooh, Wordpress has so many plugins you would lose your mind looking at all of them
[07:11] <nixternal> Themes:  http://themes.wordpress.net/
[07:11] <nixternal> Plugins: http://codex.wordpress.org/Plugins
[07:11] <nixternal> oh, i looked through a ton of them
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: Do you have recommendations though?
[07:11] <nixternal> but one of my buds started up a blog with that theme and i liked it
[07:12] <nixternal> i dont' use any plugins anymore. themes are of course personal flavor. plugins i have used were category images which were cool with the old blog
[07:13] <nixternal> does all of your autopings to various sites (i.e., technorati, google, or other blog agreators)
[07:13] <nixternal> you can goto wordpress.com and setup a blog to play with the themse stuff and the oeprations
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, wordpress.com won't let me use any plugins though, and I want to have options for restricting posts
[07:13] <nixternal> it handles all of the spam stuff
[07:14] <nixternal> restricting what kind of posts?
[07:14] <nixternal> you can set it up to where you have to approve comments
[07:14] <nixternal> Akismet does all of the spam blocking, and I have never had an issue with spam
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Like, things I want just my friends to read, or particular groups of friends, which happens on occasion, but not a lot.
[07:14] <nixternal> ahhh
[07:15] <nixternal> that i don't know about really. you would have to go through and check all of the plugins available
[07:15] <nixternal> i think you can create posts that only certain people can view, but once again i am not 100% positive
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> I've found some plugins that look promising, but I'd need my own host to use them.
[07:16] <nixternal> yes, or have a server that you have ssh access to
[07:16] <nixternal> you can password protect a post
[07:16] <nixternal> i see the option when i goto write a new post
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> Well, I have my own server box, but a) it's having hardware issues atm, and b) I don't know what connection I will have available for it in the summer
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> password protect would require me to e-mail the password to everyone I wanted to read it each time, and at that point I might as well just e-mail the post
[07:17] <nixternal> i just use Dreamhost. it cost me $22 for an entire year of hosting using a promotional code
[07:17] <nixternal> well, use one password and let everyone know the password
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> How'd you get the promo?
[07:18] <nixternal> mdke. but i can create one for you so you can get the same deal
[07:19] <nixternal> pay with a credit card and within an hour you will have your stuff up and running
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> That might be cool.  I'm still looking at the list of hosting options.  How do you like them?
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> Can you get a domain with that too?
[07:19] <nixternal> i haven't had any major issues. i had a small issue using paypal with them, but that got fixed quick
[07:19] <nixternal> there was a quirk with my jabber account password using special characters that it didn't like
[07:19] <nixternal> but they fixed that quick as well
[07:20] <nixternal> yes you get 1 domain with that, but can get additional domains and have a ton of subdomains available as well
[07:20] <nixternal> 1-click installs is the cake
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> 1-click installs?
[07:20] <nixternal> you setup a domain, then goto the goodies section and select like Wordpress, WikiMedia, Joomla and more and it installs it automatically pretty much instantnly for you
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> oo
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> cool
[07:21] <nixternal> create as many mysql dbs as you need
[07:21] <nixternal> i did a subdomain for blog. wiki. gallery. beta. and what not, but since deleted them
[07:21] <nixternal> plus you get full ssh access to your stuff
[07:21] <nixternal> svn if you want to do it
[07:21] <nixternal> all kinds of crazy stuff
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> Other good-sounding hosts people have mentioned were bluehost and shieldhost - know anything about them?
[07:23] <nixternal> bluehost has been rated #1 by many
[07:23] <nixternal> never heard of shieldhost
[07:23] <nixternal> at the same time with all of the good i have heard of dreamhost, there is also a lot of bad i have heard as well, but haven't ran into anyone yet around here with issues
[07:24] <nixternal> but that goes with any host
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> what sorts of bad?
[07:24] <nixternal> if 1 person has an issue, it doesn't take much for them to become poisonous effecting many others
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> (Just to get an idea)
[07:24] <nixternal> www.dreamhost-sucks.com
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> Any idea why bluehost is rated above it?
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> heh
[07:25] <nixternal> none at all, but with any host there is always a possibility of an issue
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> And this promo - is it a one-year deal and after that you pay the $96, or is it long-term?
[07:25] <nixternal> one-year deal
[07:25] <nixternal> here is the thing though
[07:26] <nixternal> you can create promos and hand them out, and if you hand out enough, only a few, it will eventually make your next year free
[07:26] <nixternal> there are a bunch of different promos you can create
[07:26] <nixternal> you can set it up to where you get like 10% and up of what a person who uses your promo spends with dreamhost
[07:26] <nixternal> and it trickles down, so what they promote, you will get a kickback from that as well
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> interesting
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> dreamhost-sucks said it used to get an F rating from the BBB, and was upgraded to a C - now it's at a B.
[07:27] <nixternal> but like i tell everyone, research first, try and talk to as many people about their host and what not
[07:28] <nixternal> ya, it is a B and has been for a while. *-sucks.com sites are usually poisonous sites that can never prove their issues
[07:28] <nixternal> i have already tried the ubuntu-sucks ones, they all point to ubuntu.com :)
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> ha
[07:29] <nixternal> heh, back when i worked at at&t, me and another guy started att-sucks.com, and hosted it at at&t
[07:29] <nixternal> hehe
[07:29] <elkbuntu> lol
[07:30] <crimsun> richs-sound-codec-sucks.com ? nice.
[07:30] <nixternal> hahaha
[07:30] <nixternal> wth quit following me :)
[07:30] <crimsun> other way 'round, dude
[07:30] <nixternal> shh
[07:30] <nixternal> don't let everyone know i am stalking
[07:31] <crimsun> err, this isn't a query window!
[07:31] <nixternal> lol
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: did I ask already who your host is?
[07:33] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, maybe. aussie company you're unlikely to have heard of
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> ah
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: Dreamhost apparently increases your storage and bandwidth the longer you stay with them?
[07:47] <nixternal> yes
[07:47] <nixternal> weekly
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> nice
[07:56] <rjian> hmmm
[07:56] <jenda> rikai: indeed, you're a faithful ;)
[01:14] <elkbuntu> jenda, ping.. wanting linkage to the source file for the posters plxkthx
[01:14] <elkbuntu> s/plxkthx/plzkthx/
[01:14] <jenda> hehe :)
[01:14] <jenda> doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing and browse from there.
[01:14] <elkbuntu> danke
[01:14] <jenda> DIY Marketing/Posters, Batch 1
[01:14] <jenda> no problem.
[01:15] <jenda> Whatchabout to do withum?
[01:15] <elkbuntu> hopefully have a heap printed off a4 size within the next fortnight for distribution at Linux.Conf.au
[01:16] <jenda> nice :)
[01:16] <jenda> Any chance you'd be interested in A2 size? :)
[01:16] <jenda> And - I still haven't found anything to spend the extra $200 on.
[01:16] <juliux> jenda, i will take 10 for the expos in germany
[01:16] <jenda> I'm thinking flyers...
[01:17] <jenda> juliux: great :)
[01:17] <xipietotec> jenda: glossy prints
[01:17] <elkbuntu> jenda, only if you can assure they'd get to me in the next 9 days
[01:17] <juliux> jenda, what kind of flyers?
[01:17] <jenda> that makes for about 50-100 altogether so far
[01:17] <jenda> elkbuntu: more like 9 months :)
[01:17] <elkbuntu> jenda, thought so
[01:17] <elkbuntu> i still want ubuntu inch badges/buttons
[01:18] <elkbuntu> i didnt have the fundage to do any :(
[01:18] <jenda> juliux: dunno, something to attach to CDs for example, or to hand out on the street... or put a stack of to the local HW vendor
[01:18] <jenda> elkbuntu: I'll look into that.
[01:18] <elkbuntu> yay!
[01:18] <juliux> jenda, you can get flyers from canonical i think
[01:18] <juliux> jenda, what every you produce we will try to sell it in germany on the expos
[01:19] <jenda> juliux: If I spoke any german, I'd consider coming myself :)
[01:19] <juliux> jenda, if you speak english you can come;)
[01:20] <juliux> jenda, there are not only german speaking people on the expos
[01:20] <juliux> jenda, the next one is in saxony;)
[01:20] <jenda> I'll think about it ;)
[01:20] <jenda> mmm, close...
[01:20] <jenda> I can't come before April, though.
[01:21] <juliux> in think in may or june is the biggest one in berlin
[01:21] <jenda> juliux: seems Canonical doesn't have flyers available...
[01:21] <juliux> jenda, i have here ubuntu flyers from canonical
[01:22] <juliux> in english
[01:22] <jenda> but you had to print them yourself, right?
[01:22] <juliux> no
[01:22] <juliux> i get them in the conference pack
[01:22] <juliux> they are send out in southafrica
[01:23] <juliux> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences
[01:23] <juliux> We will supply Conference Packs to LoCoTeams that are manning an Ubuntu booth. A conference pack contains 4 t-shirts, 200 Ubuntu leaflets and 200 Ubuntu stickers. Conference Pack approval is at Canonical's discretion, and any left over materials should be shared with Loco Team members for other events. To request a pack, please email the following information to [MAILTO]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at least 4 weeks prior to the event:
[01:23] <jenda> I see.
[01:24] <juliux> i get 3 conferenc packs last year
[01:26] <jenda> neat.
[01:26] <jenda> We didn't get much of a chance to present at conferences yet.
[01:27] <jenda> They are usually just 'lectures' here, no booths.
[01:27] <juliux> ask marilize if you can get some flyer or/and stickers
[01:27] <juliux> or if you want the fast way, ask malcom if he can ask marilize;)
[01:29] <juliux> hh malcolm
[01:31] <jenda> hehe
[01:32] <jenda> I'll look into it - I don't particularly need flyers myself.
[01:44] <juliux> MenZa, ping
[05:49] <willvdl> juliux, we are trying to author and print something quickly for BETT
[05:49] <willvdl> we don't currentl have edubuntu flyers but cbx33 has done lots of ESA work already
[05:54] <jason_ukfsn> Can anyone here point me to guidelines for refering to Ubuntu in press releases?
[05:55] <jenda> hmm
[05:55] <jenda> Do we have anything of the sort
[05:55] <jenda> ?
[05:56] <somerville32> jenda: We should start to get these things :)
[05:56] <jenda> indeed...
[06:18] <juliux> MenZa, ping
[06:18] <juliux> jenda,  i will send you your shirt tommorrow
[06:18] <jenda> greatzorz
[07:20] <somerville32> jenda: pang
[07:21] <jenda> shwong?
[07:21] <somerville32> Did you see the thread on the ml about the guy who bought ad space in his local newspaper?
[07:24] <jenda> Yes, something swivelled by through my monitor...
[07:25] <somerville32> :D
[07:25] <somerville32> It sounds like an awesome opportunity to promote Ubuntu
[07:26] <jenda> It does indeed :)
[07:43] <juliux> somerville32, in germany was the idea to make something like the ad for firefox;)
[07:44] <juliux> jenda, size l for the polo is right?
[07:45] <jenda> juliux: I'm M, MenZa is L
[07:45] <juliux> ok
[07:46] <juliux> i will send it out tomorrow
[07:51] <jenda> juliux: thx :)
[08:02] <MenZa> :o
[08:03] <MenZa> jenda: I'm probably sending the stickers tomorrow too, if I can find the time
[08:03] <jenda> cool :)
[08:03] <MenZa> Been at work the past couple of days
[08:04] <MenZa> Even found an Ubuntu user at the store yesterday :D
[08:04] <MenZa> It was fun to see my boss' expression when he said that his disk mounted perfectly in Ubuntu, but didn't show up in Windows
[08:05] <MenZa> I started working at a computer store.
[08:05] <MenZa> But I still get moderately cheap prints
[08:05] <jenda> hehe :)
[08:06] <jenda> nice :)
[08:06] <MenZa> yep
[08:06] <MenZa> pondering the 'Works with Ubuntu' stickers tbh
[08:06] <MenZa> :D
[08:06] <MenZa> that, however, would require me to bring the flaptop to work and test everything in the store
[08:06] <MenZa> lol
[08:09] <jenda> hehe, go for it ;)
[08:09] <juliux> MenZa, did you have a picture of the stickers?
[08:10] <MenZa> juliux: I have several
[08:10] <MenZa> secs
[08:12] <MenZa> http://flickr.com/photos/menza/190249114/
[08:12] <MenZa> http://flickr.com/photos/menza/190242006/
[08:13] <juliux> nice
[08:14] <juliux> what did they cost?
[08:14] <MenZa> zilch.
[08:14] <MenZa> Used to work for a printer.
[08:15] <juliux> ?
[08:16] <MenZa> I used to work for a printshop
[08:16] <MenZa> printed them mysel
[08:17] <MenZa> ++f
[08:17] <juliux> ah
[08:39] <juliux> jenda, is there also a kubuntu weekly newsletter?
[08:40] <jenda> juliux: nope
[08:40] <somerville32> No, and no need for it :)
[08:40] <jenda> juliux: it's a community based project
[08:40] <jenda> And we share communities.
[08:40] <juliux> i found this on here http://www.kubuntu-de.net/kwn/25.html
[08:41] <juliux> so i wondering why they are calling it kubuntu weekly newsletter
[08:42] <somerville32> It is just the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter translated and rebranded
[08:42] <juliux> and without the gnome and xfce part in the feisty changes;)
[08:43] <somerville32> meh
[08:43] <somerville32> I don't appreciate that but w/e
[08:43] <juliux> somerville32, i was just wondering
[08:43] <somerville32> Right.
[08:44] <somerville32> I'm just saying that we put a _lot_ of work into UWN
[08:44] <jenda> I don't appreciate that either.
[08:44] <somerville32> rebranding... thats ok
[08:44] <somerville32> translating... thats ok
[08:44] <jenda> Lump, don't split, and this is just not very productive.
[08:44] <somerville32> but ripping stuff out is like... a slap in the f ace
[08:44] <somerville32> But hey
[08:44] <juliux> somerville32, that is why i ask
[08:45] <somerville32> Maybe they just don't want to translate the extra stuff?
[08:45] <juliux> why they translate the desktop and server stuff but not gnome and xfce ?
[08:46] <juliux> server and desktop is more
[08:47] <jenda> It's not right.
[08:47] <jenda> They shouldn't deny their affiliation with Ubuntu in that way, especially when the work isn't entirely theirs.
[08:47] <juliux> jenda, said it to riddell or jono;)
[08:48] <jenda> meh
[08:48] <jenda> I'm not looking for an argument.
[08:51] <beuno> they should also provide a link to the translation in the wiki if they took the time to translate it
[08:53] <somerville32> :]
[08:54] <juliux> jenda, from May 30th to June 2nd is the biggest linuxday of europe in berlin;9
[08:54] <jenda> neat
[08:54] <jenda> :)
[08:58] <juliux> jenda, i will organise a ubuntu and edubuntu booth at the linuxday;)
[08:58] <jenda> nice ;)
[09:03] <juliux> hi tonyyarusso
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> hi juliux
[09:38] <WaterSevenUb> Hey. If a team wants to start translating the UWN, what steps should it follow? Do you freeze the UWN on the release day? Do you usually use Gobby? How do we get access to the server? How do you easily change wiki style to the email format easily readable in most of the clients (eg. Pine)?
[09:39] <jenda> WaterSevenUb: I'd recommend waiting for each release, and translating it as soon as it's out.
[09:40] <jenda> I'm not sure if the gobby server is currently available, but when it is, you can use it too.
[09:40] <jenda> the password is always ufl@ftw
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> jenda: (backup - see topic ;)  )
[09:40] <jenda> WaterSevenUb: err, I mean, see topic for backup server ;)
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> I think the Spanish team works on it as we go and releases very shortly afterwards
[09:40] <jenda> WaterSevenUb: be sure to link to your main UWN page from the english UWN page.
[09:45] <beuno> WaterSevenUb: we usually wait for it to be out and create a /ES (for spanish) in the wiki
[09:46] <beuno> sometimes we get a head start and translate while it's been cooked up, but that just taked up more time later pasting everything together
[09:47] <WaterSevenUb> Thank you all.
[09:47] <beuno> weolcome
[09:47] <WaterSevenUb> beuno, yeah... I guess then it's hard to find the diffs.
[09:47] <beuno> welcome
[09:51] <somerville32> :)
[09:53] <WaterSevenUb> Can we edit (very very carefully...typing one letter/minute:-) ) the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter and add the Translations section when they are ready?
[09:53] <WaterSevenUb> or should we ask you in here?
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Have somerville32 mess with that page
[09:54] <WaterSevenUb> ok:)
[09:55] <somerville32> WaterSevenUb, What would you like to change?
[09:56] <WaterSevenUb> somerville32, just include a line like Translations: ([:UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue26/PT:Portuguese] )
[09:56] <WaterSevenUb> when it's ready of course:)
[09:56] <WaterSevenUb> not now.
[09:57] <somerville32> Sure, you can add that yourself if you'd like
[10:06] <Paradox924X> Hey, anyone here thats not afk?