[18:45] <soundray> lesshaste: I think you can do it with fuseiso. Or create an entry in fstab for the image with 'noauto,user' as options
[18:46] <blokkie> well .. I have a problem with my sound . Headphone jack does not work and is not listed in alsamixer. any help please ?
[18:46] <lesshaste> soundray, you don't believe in the wheel group theory?
[18:46] <crlcan81> I know about command line's entry program. I just don't know all the different commands avaialbe
[18:46] <soundray> lesshaste: there is no wheel group in ubuntu by default
[18:47] <lesshaste> soundray, ah right.. thanks I couldn't find one :)
[18:47] <lesshaste> so I need to go the fuseiso route?
[18:47] <Cahan> I have a server running ubuntu, and I recently changed the PCI USB 1.1 to a PCI USB 2.0 since the network card is USB, and now networking randomly stops working, I can't access my samba share, ssh into the machine or ping it, and the machine itself cannot ping anything either
[18:47] <lesshaste> I am just trying to mount it in my home directory
[18:47] <soundray> lesshaste: do you want users to be able to mount any iso, or just one or  two in particular?
[18:47] <Ayabara> is envyng a nice way to install the latest nvidia drivers?
[18:47] <lesshaste> soundray, just me :)
[18:47] <soundray> lesshaste: I mean just one or two isos in particular?
[18:48] <lesshaste> soundray, I should have permissions for all this.. I am not trying to mount it anywhere except in my own directory
[18:48] <lesshaste> soundray, just one or two
[18:48] <soundray> lesshaste: in that case, I would go down the fstab route
[18:48] <soundray> !fstab > lesshaste
[18:48] <lesshaste> ok thanks
[18:49] <Adakos> anyone know of an all-in-one solution like vhcs for ubuntu ?
[18:49] <lyy> ........
[18:49] <onthefence928> hey i wrote a console-based java app that can be used to create a XML file used by gnome, i'd like to make it available to the public, how od i go about getting the proper open-source license? and how important is making a GUI for my program?
[18:49] <lesshaste> onthefence928, read the gpl docs online
[18:49] <lesshaste> onthefence928, it's very simple to do
[18:50] <lesshaste> onthefence928, the question of usability is up to you.. do you want it to be usable or not?
[18:50] <soundray> lesshaste: an example line would be "/home/lesshaste/file.iso /home/lesshaste/isomountpoint auto noauto,users,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0'
[18:50] <onthefence928> do they accept .JAR executables?
[18:50] <lyy> 这里都是说英语的吗？
[18:50] <tona> is there one way to install ubuntu at my axim x51 pocket pc ?
[18:50] <lesshaste> onthefence928, does who accept them?  if you want it open source you will have to provide the source of course
[18:50] <lesshaste> soundray, thanks
[18:50] <soundray> tona: no
[18:51] <onthefence928> lesshaste: it's usuable, it's just all console-based, so there's no windows or drop boxes or anything
[18:51] <crlcan81> fuck this. damn crap ass family is not making it friggen easy to concentrate on anything.
[18:51] <rubinboy> my terminal always starts in  ~/bin when using the short cut keys but, in ~/ when using the menu, how can I change this?
[18:51] <Pici> crlcan81: That language is not appropriate here.
[18:51] <lesshaste> onthefence928, ok.. this is not a technical question really :) it's up to you
[18:51] <lesshaste> crlcan81, yours?
[18:51] <techII> im having a problem with a 'phantom' dual monitor
[18:52] <micron> Adakos: yeah I installed samba (apt-get install samba)
[18:52] <techII> x thinks i have two monitors, while I only have one
[18:52] <techII> thus, i can only see half of the desktop
[18:52] <Adakos> micron: that's all i can think of, sorry
[18:52] <soundray> techII: what video driver do you use?
[18:53] <onthefence928> lesshaste: ok i'm gonna go back to tweaking it so it's a bit more noob-proof add some author info to the file and create a read-me, then i'll look up that GPL license stuff, i really just wanted to knmow if teher were any language-feature requirements
[18:53] <crlcan81> it's a 82801/BAM AC'97
[18:53] <lesshaste> onthefence928, no language feature requirements.. you just have to provide the source basically
[18:53] <pc04> mmmmmmm
[18:53] <CarlFK> running xsane as user fails: "no devices available" sudo xsane works.  so rights need to be tweeked.  what needs to be set to what?
[18:53] <onthefence928> lesshaste: cool, where do you think i should post it to make it available?
[18:54] <lesshaste> onthefence928, there are many licenses of course.. if you don't want to provide the source you can pick another one :)
[18:54] <lesshaste> onthefence928,  on your web page?
[18:54] <onthefence928> lesshaste: i'm all for open-source so i'll  go open-source
[18:54] <lesshaste> onthefence928, and then announce it somewhere like freshmeat ?
[18:54] <techII> soundray, fglrx, it might have something to do with me using the fglrx-control package to output to a tv (going back into it, it only gives options for one monitor)
[18:54] <soundray> CarlFK: did you have to install a firmware file?
[18:54] <KiDFlaSh> how can i change the color of the kickoff bar in kde4?
[18:54] <estunecle> how i can terminate X without it restarting?
[18:54] <lesshaste> onthefence928, or if lots of people will work on it you can use sourceforge
[18:54] <crlcan81> so is it in the FAQ how to set up the sound thing?
[18:54] <lesshaste> estunecle, you need to kill gdm
[18:54] <pc04> mmmmmm
[18:54] <forgotten> hi everyone, i'm having a bit of a problem with installing ircii-pana, it seems to be a pretty known problem from google, and it just keep running into error after error after error when trying compile from source.. im new to ubuntu but i believe that you can install debian packages correct? and if so does anyone know if there is a deb package for bitchx?
[18:55] <soundray> techII: does fglrx support xrandr? Try xrandr -q in a terminal
[18:55] <Bobby> hello, i have a dell xps m1330.. how do i remove the harddrive killer bug? im using ubuntu hardy amd64
[18:55] <lesshaste> Bobby, what is this bug?
[18:55] <CarlFK> soundray:  not on the linux box.  i plugged the scanner into a usb xp box, xp loaded the firmware, plugged into linux, ran xsane
[18:55] <Bobby> the load cylce count bug...
[18:55] <onthefence928> lesshaste: i don't have a webpage or blog, never felt like keeping up a webpage and never felt i had anything to say that's interesting enough for a blog
[18:55] <soundray> pc04: yes, you said that before. Do you have a question?
[18:56] <Dein> anyone experienced with ion3?
[18:56] <crlcan81> Cause ZSNES is the only program that's causing a problem.
[18:56] <Bobby> lesshaste, the bios bug which ubuntu ignores and does excessive power management kills the hardrive...
[18:56] <techII> soundray, it appears so
[18:56] <onthefence928> lesshaste and it's a small one-man project really
[18:56] <speener> hey who ever had that hp pavilion dv6000 and couldn't get the mic to work, i figured it out...
[18:56] <speener> msg me if you're here
[18:56] <Bobby> any body help??
[18:56] <lesshaste> onthefence928, sure
[18:56] <soundray> CarlFK: open System-Administration-Users and Groups and see if you are allowed to use the scanner.
[18:57] <crlcan81> I've got a Gateway E3300 I believe it was last time I checked.
[18:57] <lesshaste> Bobby, I don't know it but maybe it's in the ubuntu forums? If so, please give me a link :)
[18:57] <DrSlony> Hey, anyone know why the phatch site has been down for several days now?
[18:57] <Overand> Bobby: are you sure you're actally suffering it?
[18:57] <CarlFK> soundray: "use scanners" is checked
[18:57] <godzirra> heya folks.
[18:57] <soundray> CarlFK: were you calling xsane from a terminal window?
[18:58] <crlcan81> is there any way of checking the actual computer model name on terminal?
[18:58] <CarlFK> soundray: yes: carl@dell29:~$ xsane
[18:58] <Adakos> anyone have any recommendations on the simplest MTA for 8.04 ?
[18:58] <crlcan81> HEH.. someone has my name.
[18:58] <godzirra> I just setup ubuntu on my laptop and it says its getting connected to the network, and it lets me ping the router, but when I type "route" it hangs and I can't actually get anywhere outside my network.
[18:58] <soundray> CarlFK: run 'groups' in that window. Does it list "scanner"?
[18:58] <techII> soundray, it only lists one screen, but gives a resolution for a dual monitor setup (and kde4 panel fit itself on the visible side)
[18:59] <Bobby> lesshaste, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805570
[18:59] <soundray> techII: what's the name of the screen in the "connected" line?
[18:59] <purpleback> hi :3
[18:59] <ashpal> can anyone tell me to install matlab
[18:59] <Bobby> anyone help me with the harddrive bug????
[18:59] <techII> soundray, the problem appears in gdm, gnome seems to reset the resolution
[18:59] <Bobby> ashpal, install matlab
[18:59] <techII> soundray, 'default connected 2560x800+0+0 0mm x 0mm'?
[18:59] <purpleback> i have a few questions
[18:59] <ashpal> bobby yes
[18:59] <purpleback> anyone up to answer?
[18:59] <lesshaste> Bobby, thanks.. does that not have the answer?
[19:00] <ashpal> in ubuntu 7.10
[19:00] <Bobby> lesshaste, thats not working
[19:00] <CarlFK> soundray: yes: carl@dell29:~$ groups - ...scanner
[19:00] <Pici> Bobby: What bug?
[19:00] <lesshaste> Bobby, you need to post in the forum I thijnk
[19:00] <chamunks> I edited my fstab to automatically mount some sata2 drives at boot time ones ntfs and ones reiserfs for some reason ubuntu doesent mount them by default anymore but my problem is how come they change names in /dev/  all the time now and after every few boots they no longer mount how do i solve this?
[19:00] <DrSlony> purpleback dont ask to ask, just ask.
[19:00] <soundray> techII: try 'xrandr --output default --auto'
[19:00] <Bobby> lesshaste, ok
[19:00] <purpleback> ok so um im on the newest version of ubuntu and it keeps telling me "package is on the software channel" what the hell is the software channel and where can i find it?
[19:01] <CarlFK> soundray: in case it helps: carl@dell29:~$ scanimage --list-devices = No scanners were identified..  sudo scanimage --list-devices = device `snapscan:libusb:004:002' is a Acer FlatbedScanner23 flatbed scanner
[19:01] <techII> soundray, it has no effect
[19:01] <yxin> lol
[19:02] <Bobby> Pici, the laptop harddrive killer bug
[19:02] <Bobby> Pici, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805570
[19:03] <crlcan81> dear gods that is a lot of people..
[19:03] <soundray> techII: I think you should look through the xrandr manpage and set explicitly the desktop size that you need
[19:03] <techII> soundray, thanks
[19:03] <crlcan81> I'm on command line and know how to read the stuff. What's the command to check the entire computer's structure name, like Gateway or what not?
[19:03] <crlcan81> I know it was listed as a Gateway E3300
[19:04] <soundray> CarlFK: please try 'strace scanimage --list-devices'. It will produce loads of output, but towards the end it may identify which file or device it fails to open due to permission problems.
[19:04] <deepfriedsquirre> I'm selling a computer to my father - do I need to run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdaX in order to stop old data popping up?
[19:04] <soundray> CarlFK: failing that, 'strace xsane' may point the way.
[19:04] <AbstortedMinds> hi im confused at which version i want to use, ihave an imac dual core do i choose: 64bit AMD and Intel computers, or the x86 one
[19:05] <ashpal> soudray , can u help me in installing matalb
[19:05] <ashpal> matlab
[19:05] <Slart> AbstortedMinds: go with the 32-bit normal one
[19:05] <godzirra> I just setup ubuntu on my laptop and it says its getting connected to the network, and it lets me ping the router, but when I type "route" it hangs and I can't actually get anywhere outside my network.    I recently reinstalled Ubuntu AMD replacing my Ubuntu-server install, and now I have to manually assemble and mount my RAID every reboot.  Before it Just Worked, even without an mdadm.conf file.  Ideas?
[19:05] <Pici> Bobby: I'm pretty sure that this will sort you out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement   FYI, the severity of this bug has been wildly exaggerated.
[19:06] <chamunks> how come my harddrives shuffle names within /dev/ from time to time?
[19:06] <soundray> ashpal: arrrgh, I hate matlab
[19:06] <deepfriedsquirre> soundray: Well, I had old data popping up all the time last time I just reformatted partitions
[19:06] <Adakos> is there a way to apt-get install the lamp packages?
[19:06] <hibersh> octave is all right
[19:06] <Slart> !lamp | Adakos
[19:06] <ashpal> soundray, then what do u recommend
[19:06] <deepfriedsquirre> soundray: Gnome kept popping up on Xubuntu and all sorts of weird things
[19:06] <soundray> ashpal: sorry, I know that's not helpful. You've paid big money for it, though, so you should ask the vendor to help you install it.
[19:06] <Adakos> thanks slart
[19:06] <purpleback> how do i get apt-get?
[19:07] <Slart> purpleback: it's installed by default
[19:07] <Adakos> purpleback: apt-get is installed by default
[19:07] <purpleback> how do i get to it?
[19:07] <Adakos> type apt-get
[19:07] <soundray> deepfriedsquirre: then you installed over the existing data without formatting
[19:07] <purpleback> where? >.>
[19:07] <Slart> purpleback: open a terminal, type apt-get
[19:07] <purpleback> the terminal?
[19:07] <purpleback> alrighty.
[19:07] <Adakos> purpleback: in your terminal
[19:07] <Slart> !terminal | purpleback
[19:07] <Brucee> when i type in "echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname" (with my domain name) i get 'permission denied'.. what do i need to do? i am installing vhcs
[19:07] <crlcan81> dear GODS that's a lot of stuff for command line.
[19:07] <Ktron> why does ssh on Ubuntu take a long time to connect? Is there something I need to further configure?
[19:07] <Brucee> on ubunty hardy 8.04
[19:07] <purpleback> im learning :D
[19:07] <soundray> crlcan81: please refrain from swearing in this channel. You've been warned before.
[19:07] <Slart> Brucee: just edit the file with "gksudo gedit /etc/hostname" instead.. much easier
[19:07] <deepfriedsquirre> soundray: No, I was careful not to. I heard that you have to make the partition a slightly different size or write to every sector last time I went here, which leads me to think him having one huge partition might sort it
[19:08] <techII> hmm, the kde4 panel does not like xrandr, will have to run it before anything starts...
[19:08] <Brucee> ok
[19:08] <deepfriedsquirre> Blerg, I might as well do it just in case he is an evil spy.
[19:08] <Adakos> Brucee: how are you installing vhcs?
[19:08] <deepfriedsquirre> You can never know with my parents.
[19:08] <crlcan81> ok.. how is that word a swear?  I keep getting 'zsh: no matches found: /home/user/*'
[19:09] <soundray> Adakos: such people exist
[19:09] <soundray> theshadow: enclose the command you want executed on the remote side in 'single quotes'
[19:09] <theshadow> yet ls /home/user/test works fine
[19:10] <Slart> theshadow: not sure "mv" is an actual program.. afaik it's a bash command.. so run bash with some switch to run the command line
[19:10] <crlcan81> so much for any real kinda help.. way too many helping and being helped for any simple question to be asked.
[19:10] <plik> so saying 'dear gods' gets a warning, but offering warez doesn't now, huh?
[19:10] <soundray> Slart: so is ls
[19:10] <Slart> theshadow: oh.. then that might not be the problem
[19:10] <theshadow> aha!
[19:10] <theshadow> soundray: ty
[19:10]  * Slart goes to play with ssh
[19:10] <soundray> theshadow: the problem is in the wildcard expansion. Your local shell tries to do it, unless you protect them.
[19:10] <spective> I've upgraded an Edubuntu/LTSP install to Hardy, and now /tmp is now read-only, which is causing lots o' problems. /etc/rcS.d/S32ltsp-client-setup is supposed to add an entry to /etc/fstab to mount it as r/w, but /etc is already r/o and so it fails. Suggestions? :/
[19:10] <theshadow> Ah!
[19:11] <Adakos> soundray: not to get into a metaphysical discussion here, but for the sake of equality, i feel invoking a group of dieities by the use of 'gods' ot be perfectly acceptable, in that case, as an exclamation of shock i.e. "good heavens! or Holy cow!"
[19:11] <soundray> plik: you can try offering warez and see where it gets you
[19:11] <Slart> !ot | Adakos
[19:11] <theshadow> I should have figured that out when I first tried ssh user@host mv ~/test/* ~ and it expanded the ~ to the local path :P
[19:11] <Adakos> @Slart: ty
[19:12] <ben2200> ok roll up roll up who wants a free gift ?? ebook collection - linux bible, ubuntu for non-geeks , ubuntu bible,   bash cookbook etc  pm me if u want the location
[19:12] <plik> soundray: not me QUOTE: ben2200
[19:12] <Slart> !ot | ben2200
[19:12] <Slart> I can do this !ot all day.. =)
[19:12] <Adakos> haha
[19:12] <Pici> ben2200: not that this would be appropriate in -offtopic either...
[19:12] <Adakos> i'm beginning to think you will :)
[19:12] <CarlFK> soundray:  open("/dev/bus/usb/001/001", O_RDWR)    = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) ;
[19:12] <CarlFK> crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 0 2008-08-10 12:30 /dev/bus/usb/001/001
[19:12] <estunecle> why after installing nvidia driver, ubuntu start only in safe mode? (i use nvidia supplied installer) is it done on purpoise?
[19:13] <soundray> Adakos: your personal opinion or mine doesn't come into it. This channel is governed by a code that forbids swearing. If you want it changed, feel free to campaign. In the meantime, adhere to it.
[19:13] <Slart> estunecle: nope.. usually it works alright.. something isn't setup right.. config settings or something else
[19:13] <ben2200> estenecle - you need to fix ur x config settings - i dont have nvidia sooooooo
[19:13] <Adakos> soundray: who would i contact to make na appeals?
[19:13] <Adakos> *make an
[19:13] <ben2200> seriously does anyone want those ebooks im quite pleased with them 2 b honest
[19:13] <soundray> CarlFK: well done. What does 'ls -l /dev/bus/usb/001/001' say?
[19:14] <CarlFK> soundray:  crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 0 2008-08-10 12:30 /dev/bus/usb/001/001
[19:14] <Slart> estunecle: I'm not sure I can help you but you might want to pastebin a couple of files.. /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:14] <Slart> !paste | estunecle
[19:14] <soundray> Adakos: I don't know. Perhaps the factoid will point you in the right direction:
[19:14] <soundray> !coc > Adakos
[19:14] <estunecle> Slart: actually i expirience this same situation with few drivers version/ubuntu versions in a row. and it worked in ubuntu 7.04
[19:14] <ben2200> i 2nd that astebin a couple of files.. /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:14] <ben2200> good idea!
[19:14] <Slart> ben2200: please.. I heard they had a used e-book convention in #ubuntu-offtopic.. if you hurry you can still catch it
[19:15] <ben2200> haha
[19:15] <modenix> can anyone tell me what's the state of play about the hard drive parking on laptops for ubuntu 8.04?
[19:15] <ben2200> no i ws offering them 4 free
[19:15] <ben2200> someone gave me web addres with em
[19:15] <Slart> modenix: last I heard they had fixed it
[19:15] <modenix> Slart: the problem seems to tae place on my machine
[19:16] <Slart> modenix: running some outdated kernel version?
[19:16] <modenix> it makes the hd parking sound every 15 sec or so, rather scary to run ubuntu under tha situation
[19:16] <modenix> 8.04 as it came from the ISO for now
[19:16] <soundray> CarlFK: same here, so I don't think that's the problem.
[19:16] <modenix> i've been googling about it but do not find definite info on it
[19:16] <Bobby> Slart, the fix is not working for me on dell xps
[19:17] <soundray> CarlFK: or maybe it is, in that scanimage tries to access it with insufficient privileges. That would be strange, though, since it works here...
[19:17] <purpleback> ok is anyone using ubuntu on a tablet pc?
[19:17] <Slart> modenix: hmm.. it might be a new bug... any error messages? anything else acting weird?
[19:17] <Slart> Bobby: the fix for the hard drive power, head parking thingy?
[19:17] <ramdas> Hey I was reading on some stuff on hardware at Anandtech and Tomshardware
[19:17] <modenix> Slart: aside from hd? not particularly.
[19:18] <Bobby> Slart, yeah
[19:18] <StudentDriver> does anyone have a recommendation for software that I can use to adjust my partition? I just installed 8.04 and I forgot that there are a couple of programs that I'll be using that need to run from XP
[19:18] <soundray> CarlFK: or was it xsane?
[19:18] <Slart> StudentDriver: gnome partition editor
[19:18] <Slart> !info gparted | StudentDriver
[19:18] <godzirra> I just setup ubuntu on my laptop and it says its getting connected to the network, and it lets me ping the router, but when I type "route" it hangs and I can't actually get anywhere outside my network.  Anyone have any ideas what's wrong?
[19:18] <RockstarRaccoon> Hi, anyone know where I can get a PHP-server ap for Ubuntu? (like Apache?)
[19:18] <StudentDriver> thankee
[19:18] <chamunks> how come my harddrives shuffle names within /dev/ from time to time?
[19:18] <SGB> Hey
[19:18] <rubinboy> I can't seem to work out why, when i open a gnome terminal it starts in ~/bin/
[19:18] <chamunks> from like sda to sdb and visa versa for some reason...
[19:18] <ramdas> all benchmarks shown are for windows software, is there linux specific hardware site where I csan get recommendations on what kind of hardware will I need for my 8.04
[19:19] <godzirra> RockstarRaccoon: apt-cache search apache? :p
[19:19] <rubinboy> can we change it
[19:19] <ramdas> Unbuntu
[19:19] <Austin`> RockstarRaccoon: what do you mean? do you want apache?
[19:19] <Slart> chamunks: they might change names if you move drives around (connection wise).. apart from that they shouldn't change
[19:19] <mindframe-> chamunks, seems to be order of detection on the controller.
[19:19] <RockstarRaccoon> is Apache on Linux too?  I thought it was only Windows...
[19:19] <CarlFK> soundray: imagescan - I actually want to use xsane, so I'll strace that too
[19:19] <RockstarRaccoon> heh
[19:19] <modenix> hmm, perhaps i shall try to investigate this further and file bug
[19:19] <RockstarRaccoon> silly me...
[19:19] <mindframe-> Slart, if there are multiple controllers then yes ubuntu seems to change them.
[19:19] <chamunks> Slart, nothings physically changing
[19:19] <modenix> but, i do not think i shall run this if it will harm drive.
[19:19] <Slart> mindframe-: ah.. yes.. that would be true
[19:19] <RockstarRaccoon> actually, I assumed Linux had a server built into the core... heh
[19:20] <chamunks> mindframe-, there anything i can do to prevent this?
[19:20] <mindframe-> chamunks, not that i have figured out.
[19:20] <chamunks> mindframe-, both of the drives are on the same chipset
[19:20] <SGB> Hey,  I was wondering if anyone knows how to fix windows going behind to start bar instead of staying below it?    Thanks for your help.
[19:21] <RockstarRaccoon> SNuxoll> is it on MacOS?
[19:21] <kapace> Hello, i recently lost all sound in flash in websites, any tips?
[19:21] <chamunks> mindframe-, its soo strange because it used to work fine in older versions of ubuntu
[19:21] <RockstarRaccoon> isn't it built in there?
[19:21] <girbraio> hello
[19:21] <crdlb> SGB: if you don't have it installed, the package is compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:21] <RockstarRaccoon> or something?
[19:21] <Brucee> how come ubuntu keeps telling me that i have to be root? when i am already at root as user
[19:21] <girbraio> speak portugueses
[19:22] <ompaul> !pt | girbraio
[19:22] <SNuxoll> RockstarRaccoon: no, you have to compile and install it on OS X
[19:22] <Slart> this is one "Ubuntu kills hard drives" bug.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/137420
[19:22] <SNuxoll> RockstarRaccoon: unless you are using OS X server
[19:22] <crdlb> SGB: which adds System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings to your menu
[19:22] <RockstarRaccoon> hmm...
[19:22] <mindframe-> chamunks, if your drives are on the same controller then im not sure why... i thought it was just an issue with multiple controllers
[19:22] <Slart> Brucee: you're not supposed to be root.. how do you login?
[19:22] <RockstarRaccoon> oh, SNuxoll, it does come with, it's on the Developer's tools CD
[19:22] <Brucee> su root
[19:22] <Brucee> and type my password
[19:23] <uoaphys> hi, is there a program I can install to let me copy a DVD?
[19:23] <Slart> Brucee: oh.. don't do that.. ubuntu is designed to use sudo
[19:23] <chamunks> mindframe-, this is why im soo confused just randomly they re assign and i have to constantly re edit my fstab and remount
[19:23] <ompaul> !rootsudo | Brucee
[19:23] <Slart> Brucee: if you really really need a root shell use sudo -i
[19:23] <uoaphys> not trying to piarete, just want to make copies of a dvd home video
[19:23] <RockstarRaccoon> Brucee> Sudo then a command, you'll be root from then on.
[19:23] <SGB> I have advanced effects in my menu but when I enable certain effects my windows don't work properly, often the borders disappear and it underlaps the start menu.  Any ideas?
[19:23] <jadams_> http://pastie.org/255825 Can someone help me with an iptables problem in hardy?
[19:23] <Brucee> ok thanks
[19:23] <mindframe-> chamunks, report it.
[19:23] <Slart> !info k9copy | uoaphys
[19:23] <soundray> uoaphys: k9copy is a good one
[19:23] <landonab> I have just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on an HP DV6910US with an Atheros 5007 wireless card.  Restricted Drives shows the card in use however NM Applet does not show any wireless.  Am I missing something?  Thank you!
[19:24] <ompaul> RockstarRaccoon, that is inaccurate I suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo to understand it more
[19:24] <mindframe-> chamunks, the way to work around it is to mount with the UUIDs
[19:24] <mindframe-> the partition UUID will never chanve
[19:24] <mindframe-> *change
[19:24] <chamunks> mindframe-, ahh yes uuids i dont know why i didnt think about that...
[19:24] <RockstarRaccoon> ompaul> really?  why is it that when I use a sudo command, it  doesn't ask me for my password afterward?
[19:24] <mario> ciao
[19:24] <Brucee> how do i know what version of ubuntu i have? whats the command to print it out?
[19:24] <RockstarRaccoon> *again
[19:25] <soundray> CarlFK: I find all of this a bit strange. This is the kind of situation where I would reboot, just to ensure that all group memberships and such are sane.
[19:25] <chamunks> mindframe-, whats the command to echo the uuids of my connected drives again?
[19:25] <Slart> RockstarRaccoon: sudo remembers that you have authenticated for a set time.. please read the links ubottu sent you
[19:25] <Brucee> cat.. but where is the location
[19:25] <Jagoo> does anyone have any idea where I could look for some pre-made custom bash color styles?
[19:25] <ompaul> RockstarRaccoon, inaccurate in a default install - it will ask after 15 mins and if you use a gksu program and then a terminal it does not know you so it is inaccurate
[19:25] <Slart> !uuid | chamunks
[19:25] <jadams_> Jagoo: search for 'bash elite prompt'
[19:25] <mindframe-> chamunks, ls -als /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[19:25] <RockstarRaccoon> ah, ok, I knew that, heh, same thing...
[19:25] <RockstarRaccoon> XD
[19:26] <lesshaste> how do I tell my uid?
[19:26] <lesshaste> is it in the passwd file?
[19:26] <soundray> lesshaste: type 'id'
[19:26] <soundray> lesshaste: it's probably 1000
[19:26] <Slart> I'm guessing it's 1000 =)
[19:26] <Tpou> omg
[19:26] <lesshaste> ah got it thanks  :)
[19:26] <mario> 	can someone send me RAMBO please?
[19:27] <soundray> Slart: isn't it remarkable how we agree on this :)
[19:27] <Adakos> where can i find the key differences between server versions of ubuntu, i.e. 6/7/8 ?
[19:27] <Tpou> ane lal sa tarsi nick tuka bre ?
[19:27] <Slart> soundray: hehe, yes.. amazing =)
[19:27] <ompaul> RockstarRaccoon, sorry to be pedantic, but it is inaccurate the way you suggested, you really need to be spot on so people can't misunderstand you. This is how good help is given, if we were sloppy people could break their systems software.
[19:27] <Pici> !piracy | mario
[19:27] <chamunks> mindframe-, where should i report this to in the mean time?
[19:27] <Slart> !it | Tpou
[19:27] <lesshaste> soundray, thanks.. it's 229 :)
[19:28] <Tpou> tanks
[19:28] <soundray> lesshaste: crikey. You can't be on Ubuntu then
[19:28] <Slart> Adakos: I've never seen any comparisons like that.. perhaps distrowatch or something
[19:28] <mario> I want to rambo in talian
[19:28] <lesshaste> soundray, that computer isn't
[19:28] <lesshaste> soundray, good spot!
[19:28] <MolePrince> Hello.  I recently reinstalled Ubuntu AMD replacing my Ubuntu-server install, and now I have to manually assemble and mount my RAID every reboot.  Before it Just Worked, even without an mdadm.conf file.  Ideas?
[19:28] <mindframe-> chamunks, not sure if it can be considered a bug..., but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[19:28] <Adakos> Slart: alright, thanks
[19:28] <junglejim> has anyone here installed phpmyadmin on ubuntu?
[19:28] <krut> rambo is the italian stallion :D
[19:28] <krut> meh
[19:29] <krut> hi there peoples
[19:29] <Slart> hello krut
[19:29] <ompaul> junglejim, just use the packaged version install:   phpmyadmin
[19:29] <purpleback> im trying to install mac4lin anyone care to help?
[19:30] <chamunks> mindframe-, righteo thanks lots
[19:30] <junglejim> i did ompaul
[19:30] <krut> does anyone know why the hostnames I have for my boxes aren't resolving to the correct internal IP?
[19:30] <purpleback> please? D:
[19:30] <MolePrince> krut: Are they set to broadcast their hostname in dhclient.conf ?
[19:30] <iki_> How can one open a text file without knowing encoding?
[19:31] <Slart> purpleback: just start installing it according to the instructions on the site.. ask here if you get stuck
[19:31] <purpleback> i am >.>
[19:31] <TJ-Linux> what tool would people here recommend as a full backup tool?  I'm messing around with ubuntu a lot to try and get my graphics card to work properly and keep messing up the system and having to reinstall -- I'd rather just revert to my last known working system.
[19:31] <purpleback> that's the problem.
[19:31] <purpleback> Slart: oki so i downloaded all the files. extracted them properly
[19:31] <mindframe-> chamunks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/119233
[19:31] <Slart> TJ-Linux: I don't think there is anything like the windows snapshot backup thing.. system restore or whatever it's called
[19:31] <pp> hi plzzzzzzzzzzz help me i install the package in my ubuntu and lose my voice i have a right driver but when install this package my voice have been mute i dont no how can i uninstall this package
[19:31] <pp> hi plzzzzzzzzzzz help me i install the package in my ubuntu and lose my voice i have a right driver but when install this package my voice have been mute i dont no how can i uninstall this package
[19:31] <purpleback> and then i went to install the theme file mac4lin_GTK_v0.4.tar.gz
[19:32] <pp> hi plzzzzzzzzzzz help me i install the package in my ubuntu and lose my voice i have a right driver but when install this package my voice have been mute i dont no how can i uninstall this package
[19:32] <purpleback> it said it installed it properly
[19:32] <purpleback> but it's not coming up on themese.
[19:32] <purpleback> themes*
[19:32] <jpds> !repeat | pp
[19:32] <Slart> pp: and pretty pretty please stop with the extra letters.. it's just annoying
[19:32] <soundray> iki_: see if you can find out the encoding with 'file filename.txt'
[19:32] <purpleback> Slart: anything you know that can fix this? >.>
[19:33] <Slart> purpleback: no idea.. never messed with themes, mac influenced or otherwise
[19:33] <TJ-Linux> slart -- I don't need a snapshot, just something that would easily let me make a full backup of my full system -- if something goes wrong then I can perform a restore from that backup
[19:33] <pp> :((sorry i dont want do a bad worke but i so nerves
[19:33] <soundray> TJ-Linux: have a look at sbackup
[19:33] <krut> MolePrince: that's under the request section, under netbios-name-servers / host-name?
[19:33] <soundray> !info sbackup | TJ-Linux
[19:33] <iki_> soundray: It says <file name>: data
[19:33] <landonab> I have just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on an HP DV6910US with an Atheros 5007 wireless card.  Restricted Drives shows the card in use however NM Applet does not show any wireless.  Am I missing something?  Thank you!
[19:34] <TJ-Linux> ok i'll try sbackup, thank you
[19:34] <pp> nobody help me?plz if u can help me plz help
[19:34] <soundray> TJ-Linux: or use a partition imager
[19:34] <Slart> !helpme
[19:34] <soundray> !info partimage | TJ-Linux
[19:35] <MolePrince> krut:  send host-name "HOSTNAME";
[19:35] <krut> it's in there, MolePrince.
[19:35] <TJ-Linux> hmm, i'll look into that one too -- can I backup a partition that's mounted? (i.e. my current system)
[19:35] <rubinboy> Can any one please help me with a Gnome terminal issue
[19:35] <Slart> pp: just ask your question on one line. Avoid extra "Help me, plzzzzplzzz".. if you don't get an answer in 5 minutes you can repeat the question
[19:35] <soundray> TJ-Linux: with sbackup, yes. With partimage, it's only safe if it's unmounted
[19:36] <SGB> I have advanced effects in my menu but when I enable certain effects my windows don't work properly, often the borders disappear and it underlaps the start menu.  Any ideas?
[19:36] <Slart> floodbots going crazy?
[19:36] <jpds> !dcc > Slart
[19:36] <Slart> ahh.. forgot about that one.. thanks jpds
[19:36] <TJ-Linux> thank you soundray
[19:37] <jadams_> Anyone ever seen this? http://pastie.org/255846
[19:37] <uoaphys> Hi, how do I get a user selection upon login (GDM) rather than having to type in the username?
[19:38] <Slart>  uoaphys system, administration, login window, choose a theme with a "face browser"
[19:38] <purpleback> does ubuntu come with virus protection software?
[19:38] <PriceChild> uoaphys: automatic login, or pictures to click on? System > administration> login window
[19:38] <PriceChild> !virus | purpleback
[19:38] <purpleback> or do you not need it?
[19:38] <rubinboy> Hi, Is there a way to change (fix) my default start up terminal back to my home folder. instead of ~/bin
[19:38] <Slart> jadams_: looks like a regular dns problem
[19:38] <chamunks> mindframe-, thanks for looking that up for me ill look into it briefly
[19:38] <Slart> !virus | purpleback
[19:38] <jadams_> Slart, well, I can ping the DNS server at /etc/resolv.conf
[19:38] <Adakos> Is there a way to reset the ubuntu install to a 'clean state' (i.e. a fresh install via ssh and no cd access) ?
[19:38] <pp> hi plzzzzzzzzzzz help me i install the package in my ubuntu and lose my voice i have a right driver but when install this package my voice have been mute i dont no how can i uninstall this package
[19:38] <jadams_> Slart, and when I run it, that happens immediately...it's not like it even tries anything
[19:38] <joshjh> Adakos: so i herd u like mudkipz?
[19:39] <mindframe-> chamunks, point is its already been reported and assigned a medium level of importance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/44261
[19:39] <PriceChild> !offtopic | joshjh
[19:39] <joshjh> !mudkipz ! PriceChild
[19:39] <Slart> jadams_: hmm.. wait a minute.. "bad address"?? I get "unknown host" if I try to ping weird things
[19:39] <soundray> rubinboy: can you elaborate a bit?
[19:39] <jadams_> Slart, hence my confusion
[19:39] <purpleback> joshjh: i lol'd a little then D:<
[19:40] <krut> hm
[19:40] <rubinboy> soundray: when i press, ctrl+alt+spacebar it is set to start the Gnome Terminal but it opens with the location drubin@gizmo:~/bin$
[19:40] <jadams_> Slart, omg, I'm dumb
[19:40] <jadams_> Slart, I left out 'nameserver' from my resolv.conf
[19:40] <jadams_> meh
[19:40] <soundray> rubinboy: interesting -- give me a minute
[19:40] <Slart> jadams_: hehe..
[19:40] <rubinboy> but when i open it from the Application menu it starts in drubin@gizmo:~/bin$
[19:40] <jadams_> thanks, outtie
[19:40] <pp> hi plzzzzzzzzzzz help me i install the package in my ubuntu and lose my voice i have a right driver but when install this package my voice have been mute i dont no how can i uninstall this package
[19:41] <rubinboy> soundray:  Thanks, I know that i can add, cd /home/drubin to my .bashrc but that seems like a hack
[19:41] <soundray> rubinboy: it certainly would be. Where does Applications-Accessories-Terminal take you?
[19:42] <bullgard4> What does 'EC' stand for in the sentence: "This is a Linux driver for the IBM and Lenovo ThinkPad laptops. It supports various features of these laptops which are accessible through the ACPI and ACPI EC framework, but not otherwise fully supported by the generic Linux ACPI drivers."?
[19:42] <rubinboy> soundray: but when i open it from the Application menu it starts in drubin@gizmo:~/bin$
[19:42] <axisys> pp: voice is mure? see a doctor man
[19:42] <axisys> mute!
[19:42] <soundray> rubinboy: same problem there then
[19:42] <rubinboy> soundray:*Correction* but when i open it from the Application menu it starts in drubin@gizmo:~$
[19:42] <Slart> axisys: come on.. not everyone has english as a first language
[19:42] <pp> mute
[19:42] <pp> :(
[19:42] <Slart> axisys: try answering the question instead
[19:43] <rubinboy> soundray: My copy and paste skills are bad
[19:43] <axisys> Slart: where is the sense of humor ? :-)
[19:43] <Slart> axisys: nothing funny about that
[19:43] <godzirra> I just setup ubuntu on my laptop and it says its getting connected to the network, and it lets me ping the router, but when I type "route" it hangs and I can't actually get anywhere outside my network.  Anyone have any ideas what's wrong?
[19:43] <purpleback> Slart: yes there is.
[19:43] <chamunks> mindframe-, whats the deal with a UUID that looks like this "FCB84ACAB84A835E"
[19:44] <purpleback> I run on a Toshiba Satellite R15 Tablet PC, I've already enabled the screen like a tablet but how can I activate the screen swivelling?
[19:44] <MartinvDK> Any Opera users here?
[19:45] <soundray> rubinboy: did you set that keyboard shortcut in System-Prefs-Keyboard Shortcuts?
[19:45] <paradizelost> hey all. I'm trying to set up a script to auto-cycle my password from an input file
[19:45] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK:  well not exactly, but  yes I got Opera installed and occasionlely use it.  Firefox For The Wine
[19:45] <paradizelost> is there a way to tell passwd to NOT require me to type in the current password?
[19:45] <rubinboy> soundray: Yes, that is  working, the terminal is opening just opening in the wrong directory
[19:45] <Adakos> is there a way to remotely re-install linux without having physical access?
[19:45] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK: win not wine
[19:46] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: do you have a gmail-account too then?
[19:46] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK: yes I do
[19:46] <rubinboy> Adakos: install or update?
[19:46] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: Can you log in on that account using opera?
[19:46] <soundray> rubinboy: let me ask differently: Ctrl-Alt-Space is not normally bound. How did you set it up to open a terminal?
[19:46] <Adakos> rubinboy: i effed up, i want to revert back to a clean 6.06 server install
[19:46] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: When I log in, it just shows me that loading bar, it's loading all the way to the top, and then nothing more. It should be showing me the inbox
[19:46] <pokee> I have a sony vaio vgn-nr110e. Can I install this? http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[19:46] <paradizelost> adakos: you'll be hard pressed to do a full reinstall without physical access
[19:47] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK:  logged in on Firefox as usaul :)   could load up Opera, but Opera is well  yuck  :D   well  not exaclty yuck, but yuck as in propritary yes
[19:47] <AngryElf> where on the filesystem is my trash folder?
[19:47] <Adakos> paradizelost: thats what i thought
[19:47] <danny305> does anybody know how can i get a citrix driver for ubuntu?
[19:47] <Pici> !trash | AngryElf :)
[19:47] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK:  I would rather use Firefox or Konqueror over Opera any day
[19:47] <rubinboy> soundray:  Yes I set it up to bind to that. (Only started opening ~/bin in the last 2 days)
[19:47] <paradizelost> Pici: umm go to www.citrix.com i  believe they have the client download available there
[19:47] <pp> hi plzzzzzzzzzzz help me i install the package in my ubuntu and lose my voice i have a right driver but when install this package my voice have been mute i dont no how can i uninstall this package
[19:47] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK: however of course I would rather use Opera over IE any day also :)
[19:47] <pokee> I have a sony vaio vgn-nr110e. Can I install this? http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[19:48] <paradizelost> pp: what are you trying to say, it makes no sense
[19:48] <rubinboy> Pici: Where do you get all the commands for the irc bot from? ie !trash
[19:48] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: Nope, opera is the favorite here. No need for 200 extra plugins, everything is just there from the beginning :)
[19:48] <Pici> paradizelost: not me ;)
[19:48] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK:  sorry, but I don't  want to  try gmail in  Opera right now
[19:48] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: Except that in ubuntu, opera won't show me the inbox :(
[19:48] <Pici> rubinboy: http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t  Also, I just remember them
[19:48] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: okay :)
[19:49] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK:  Gmail has issues with konqueror also
[19:49] <Outlier> Can anyone throw me a clue about how to set up a USB microphone?  It just worked under Fiesty, but just doesn't under Hardy.
[19:49] <MartinvDK> ok
[19:49] <rubinboy> Pici: Thanks, Ye that is what i was looking for
[19:49] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK: can only get the classic mode wroking in that
[19:49] <paradizelost> pici: http://www.citrix.com/English/ss/downloads/results.asp?productID=186&c1=sot2755
[19:49] <Adakos> let me ask this , then : whats the best version of ubuntu server to use for a headless dual single-core processor fileserver/webserver/mailserver ?
[19:49] <paradizelost> adakos: i'd use 8.04.1
[19:49] <pokee> I have a sony vaio vgn-nr110e. Can I install this? http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[19:49] <rubinboy> soundray:  any ideas? seems completely odd hey
[19:49] <paradizelost> adakos it is LTS
[19:49] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: Yeah, and I'm too used to the auto-completion in gmail, so I cannot remember my friends' e-mail addresses :)
[19:50] <Pici> paradizelost: I'm not trying to download Citrix, I think you have me confused with someone else.
[19:50] <Adakos> paradizelost: thanks paradize. i'll try that one.
[19:50] <soundray> rubinboy: yes, I'm still on the case
[19:50] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: and that doesn't work in classic html mode
[19:50] <SebNaitsabes> MartinvDK:  Gmail works well under Opera in Windows?
[19:50] <hotspotCZ> hey, i have problem with editing Ubuntu grub (adding Fedora 9 entry), could somebody give me a hand please? :)
[19:50] <soundray> rubinboy: are you on metacity or compiz?
[19:50] <MartinvDK> SebNaitsabes: Yes it does
[19:50] <rubinboy> soundray: compiz
[19:51] <pokee> I have a sony vaio vgn-nr110e. Can I install this? http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[19:52] <rubinboy> soundray:  I just did `mv ~/bin ~/backupbin` and re opened the  the gnome terminal, drubin@gizmo:~/backupbin$
[19:53] <soundray> rubinboy: open gconf-editor and find the key /apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options/command_terminal -- what's the value?
[19:54] <rubinboy> soundray: gnome-terminal
[19:55] <soundray> rubinboy: nothing unusual then. Can you do a Ctrl-F and search for 'backupbin'. Remember to tick both boxes in the search dialog
[19:56] <pokee> I have a sony vaio vgn-nr110e. Can I install this? http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[19:56] <ubunubi> during bootup what log catches everything after init-bottom starts? checked dmesg and it's not there
[19:56] <iki_> How can one know the size of a file?
[19:57] <bastid_raZor> iki_; ls -al file
[19:57] <solexious> [Q] My backspace key isnt working in ubuntu. It is in windows. Has been fine in ubuntu up to now, any ideas?
[19:57] <rubinboy> soundray: Dont think that will find any thing, as i only did a mv  from /bin to /backupbin dont think there will be any references to ~/backupbin
[19:58] <iki_> bastid_raZor: Thanks!
[19:58] <bastid_raZor> iki_; np
[19:59] <soundray> rubinboy: I've been thinking that. It's worth trying anyhow. After all, something tracked the fact that you moved the directory.
[19:59] <eric> hey how do i make a perform option like mIRC ?
[19:59] <purpleback> how do you set up a drawer to run a script? >.>
[19:59] <eric> i read a couple of things but just dont understand
[20:00] <rubinboy> soundray:  I just removed the Direcotry  ~/backupbin and now when starting the gnome terminal it opens in  the /  the ROOT direcotry
[20:00] <soundray> purpleback: you don't. Create a launcher instead
[20:00] <purpleback> ok how do i do that?
[20:00] <crackos> can u help me?
[20:00] <soundray> purpleback: right-click panel, select Add to Panel
[20:00] <soundray> rubinboy: did you do what I asked you to do?
[20:01] <crackos> i need a soft v92 modem drivers for ubuntu
[20:01] <purpleback> soundray: Ok this is going to be a complicated question ready?
[20:01] <rubinboy> soundray:  ctrl+f doesn't open the find dialog, need to work out where it is located,
[20:01] <soundray> rubinboy: in gconf-editor, it does
[20:02] <purpleback> soundray: I installed xrandr so that i could make my screen swivel but now the guide says to take a script called rotate.something and set it up in a launcher ><
[20:02] <soundray> rubinboy: otherwise select Edit-Find
[20:02] <crackos> :(
[20:02] <rubinboy> soundray: search string not found
[20:02] <purpleback> soundray: teach me master.
[20:02] <soundray> rubinboy: have you recreated the bin or backup bin directory?
[20:02] <flithm> hey everyone, if I want to ask an intrepid question, is this the right place?
[20:03] <Mecha25> anybody know how to undo/remove an "apt-get build-dep"?
[20:03] <Gnea> !intrepid
[20:03] <flithm> Gnea: thanks
[20:03] <rubinboy> soundray: yes, and now it still goes to the / root folder
[20:03] <soundray> purpleback: I don't take well to such treatment, thanks
[20:04] <soundray> rubinboy: if only you had followed my advice at the right time
[20:04] <Faust-C> i seem to have majorly screwed up my system
[20:04] <Mecha25> anybody know how to undo/remove an "apt-get build-dep"?
[20:04] <Faust-C> i was messing w/ AWN and now i cant login to gnome
[20:04] <rubinboy> soundray:  Sorry, did a ctr+f in the wrong window
[20:05] <Pici> Mecha25: You'll need to identify the packages that it installed and apt-get remove them
[20:05] <Mecha25> is there a quicker way than doing it manually like that?
[20:05] <rubinboy> soundray:  so  did a find on my home directory (but that also found nothing)
[20:05] <crackos> i need a soft v92 modem drivers for ubuntu :'(
[20:05] <purpleback> i just accidently deleted the top ui panel on my desktop
[20:05] <purpleback> how do i get it back? D:
[20:05] <rubinboy> soundray:  brb going to logout, and log back in again, see if it changed something
[20:06] <Mecha25> purpleback, you still have the bottom one, right?
[20:06] <purpleback> yes
[20:06] <Mecha25> right click on it and hit New Panel
[20:06] <Mecha25> then I'll tell you how to get each item/menu back
[20:07] <purpleback> ok :3 thanks :D
[20:07] <purpleback> i did that
[20:07] <Mecha25> you're going to drag the panel into place, then right click on it and hit Add to Pannel
[20:07] <thesaint4444> hi guys, if I add a .diff with 'patch -p0 < mypatch.diff' how can I then remove the patch? thanks.
[20:07]  * Faust-C wonders if anyone else managed to screw up thier system w/ AWN
[20:09] <TJ-Linux> whenever I click on a drive to mount it and it asks me for a password, it always has checked "Remember Authorization."  I don't want it to remember the authorization (mainly to prevent accidentally mounting a drive that's being accessed by another tool), so I have to remember to uncheck it each time.  Is there a way to make it so this box is not automatically checked?
[20:10] <Mecha25> purpleback: add the following:  Main Menu, Notification Area, Volume Control, Clock, and Quit
[20:10] <rubinboy> soundray: After logging out and logging back in again it works....
[20:10] <thesaint4444> I applied a diff patch but now I want to remove the diff patch, can I do that? thanks.
[20:10] <solexious> [Q] My backspace key isnt working in ubuntu. It is in windows. Doesn't work in all programs. Has been fine in ubuntu up to now, any ideas?
[20:10] <TJ-Linux> ah heh I figured it out, never mind
[20:10] <pp> #ubuntu-ir
[20:11] <pp> i want to go to ubuntu-ir in irc room but i cant
[20:11] <Mecha25> pp: try this
[20:11] <soundray> TJ-Linux: how?
[20:11] <ashvee> how to instal gyache
[20:11] <pp> how
[20:12] <Mecha25> pp: /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:12] <Mecha25> type that in
[20:12] <pp> where?
[20:12] <Pici> here
[20:12] <Brucee> where can i get this package and what command i need to get it? libdb4.3-dev
[20:12] <pp> in ubuntu server
[20:12] <Mecha25> no, where you're typing right now
[20:12] <Mecha25>  /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:12] <pp>  /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:12] <Mecha25> no space before it
[20:13] <ANTI_M> any one know how i can make the fglrx driver work
[20:13] <pp> i type but now im here anyway
[20:13] <TJ-Linux> soundray, I clicked details on the window that popped up, clicked on the "action" for mounting a fixed drive, and changed the implicit authorization for active console from "admin authentication (keep indefinitely)" to just "admin authentication"
[20:13] <Mecha25> pp: no space before it
[20:13] <TJ-Linux> it took away the check box entirely, but that's ok
[20:13] <pp>   /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:13] <Mecha25> pp: you're still typing      before it
[20:13] <pp> :((
[20:13] <pp>                              /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:14] <Mecha25> pp: NO  space
[20:14] <Pici> no. no spaces in front
[20:14] <ANTI_M> any one?
[20:14] <perfector> will increasing the kernel shared memory improve overall performance?
[20:14] <pp>  /join #ubuntu-ir
[20:14] <Mecha25> something's wrong with your chat client then
[20:14] <Mecha25> pp: are you using pidgin?
[20:15] <soundray> TJ-Linux: interesting, thanks
[20:15] <gagaga2131> x
[20:15] <ANTI_M> can any one help with the fglrx driver??
[20:15] <Mecha25> ANTI_M: ATI or NVIDIA?
[20:15] <ANTI_M> ATI
[20:15] <ANTI_M> HD 3600
[20:16] <Mecha25> ANTI_M: I probably can
[20:16] <dannyboy> where do i find openmotif?
[20:16] <ANTI_M> ok cool
[20:16] <ASULutzy> So my fiance just purchased asus' 900 eeepc, just curious if anyone else here has it and whether or not they left the Xandros install, or switched to Ubuntu, and if they used Ubuntu did they use the MID edition? Xubuntu/etc?
[20:17] <Jowi> dannyboy, the libraries should be called libmotif something.
[20:17] <ASULutzy> !eeepc
[20:17] <soundray> ASULutzy: I've set it up to dual-boot, but I'm only ever using Ubuntu now
[20:17] <SebNaitsabes> ASULutzy:  the fiance a man or woman?
[20:17] <ASULutzy> I'm a dude, she's a girl ;)
[20:17] <dannyboy> oh ok
[20:17] <SebNaitsabes> that's cool a  woman Linux buyer/user
[20:18] <JohnSourcer> hey ho
[20:18] <theteju> need some help wit partitioning hard drive
[20:18] <theteju> with*
[20:18] <JohnSourcer> how do i change permissions on a drive
[20:18] <ASULutzy> soundray: And did you just follow the eeepc trigger help that Ubottu just offered?
[20:18] <SebNaitsabes> soundray: how much RAM does a EEPC have?
[20:18] <sub-esc> i'm trying to get apache on ubuntu 8.04 to bind to ldap. here is my conf: http://pastebin.com/d7cb2c298 . I use the same info and able able to connect using JXplore.  I've installed the ldap_mod and authnz_mod. any suggestions to get apache to authenticate?
[20:18] <minus198> Hi.. How do I install a new network card? I plugged it in and ran: "modprobe e1000" but then what?
[20:19] <SebNaitsabes> !network
[20:19] <ASULutzy> SebNaitsabes, soundray: She got the 900, her's has 1 GB ram, 20 GB SSD hard drive
[20:19] <JohnSourcer> dev/sdb
[20:19] <minus198> SebNaitsabes: It's not about wlan..
[20:19] <soundray> ASULutzy: at the time, that wasn't there, so I just found out things the hard way.
[20:19] <ASULutzy> I figure that ought to be enough to handle a regular install and not have to use Xubuntu, but I'm open for advice
[20:19] <ASULutzy> soundray: Ah, well did you go with Ubuntu/Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[20:19] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: 1GB default, but I upped it to two.
[20:19] <Jowi> minus198, gksudo network-admin is the easiest way
[20:19]  * SebNaitsabes  wants to buy a small lap top that is good to take on holiday and around the house and stuff.  was thinking Mac maybe, but so expensive and propritary.  an  EEPC on the other hand well  Linux :)
[20:19] <soundray> ASULutzy: plain Ubuntu
[20:20] <minus198> Jowi: I'm not running a GUI, so non graphical stuff is the only thing I can run..
[20:20] <ASULutzy> soundray: And the performance is decent for simple tasks like using open office, firefox, etc?
[20:20] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: I'm thinking that I should have waited for one with an Atom CPU
[20:20] <SebNaitsabes> soundray: good sounds like I could keep Xandros as the host if I want.  and run other OS's in VM
[20:21] <ASULutzy> soundray: and did you bother with setting up swap space?
[20:21] <wbreslin951> hello?
[20:21] <wbreslin951> is it possible to run ubuntu in the windows environment?
[20:21] <SebNaitsabes> yes you can do that
[20:21] <ASULutzy> soundray: Yea, she was thinking about waiting for the 901, but it's considerably more expensive than the 900, and for single threaded tasks, the celeron should perform as well as the atom
[20:21] <wbreslin951> how do i do it seb?
[20:21] <Sorlag> good day, folks.. i just wanted to get my tv-card working. and i did.. but now ive a problem with xawtv -> its giving me a blackscreen and i cant do anything about it (expt ctrl +alt +F1).. can anyone help me?
[20:21] <SebNaitsabes> however why do you want to run it in Windows?
[20:22] <soundray> ASULutzy: no, really, it's not snappy as my dual-core workstation at work or my quad Mac Pro, but similar to my wife's Turion laptop.  You could setup an Ubuntu virtual machine inside of Windows, or you could install it inside of a file in Windows using Wubi, though lots of people here wouldn't recommend that
[20:22] <ASULutzy> wbreslin951: You don't have to wipe your hard drive, you can just have gparted resize/create new partitions
[20:22] <wbreslin951> asu whats the best way
[20:22] <wbreslin951> asu i have a 60GB, not enough room for ubuntu and windows
[20:22] <Jowi> minus198, conf file is /etc/network/interfaces - man interfaces for description
[20:22] <wbreslin951> especially with all my media files
[20:22] <TJ-Linux> wbreslin951, When I need to boot into windows, I like to use VMWare to run ubuntu
[20:22] <ASULutzy> soundray: Yea, makes sense on the swappiness, I was thinking the same
[20:23] <SebNaitsabes> wbreslin951:  you can run it inside WIndows in a virtualmachine yes, but having WIndows as the host OS is usauly yuck.  it should be the other weay round :)  Ubuntu as the host  Windows as the guest,  unless you have a real good reason to have Windows as the hsot
[20:23] <ASULutzy> wbreslin951: Well then how do you expect using Wubi or a VM to work any better for you?
[20:23] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: the celeron CPU has no provision for virtualization, so it won't be particularly fast
[20:23] <mizipzor> my steam client cant connect to internet it seems, but nothing on the forums... is it just me? should i blame the linux envoirment? does anyone in here use steam that can tell me if their client can connect?
[20:23] <gaintsura> is there a program that tells you what codecs a video is using? I know there is one for windows, but I've got about 7 videos that refuse to play in linux
[20:23] <SebNaitsabes> soundray: I don't really know anything about the EEPC.  and what you mean provision?
[20:23] <wbreslin951> wait. what? lol
[20:23] <wbreslin951> im lost
[20:23] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: if you want VMs, it would really make sense to wait for the dual-core Atom
[20:24] <SebNaitsabes> when will that be?
[20:24] <ASULutzy> wbreslin951: If you are concerned about not having enough space, how do you expect installing Ubuntu inside of Windows to help? It's still going to take up space
[20:24] <Pici> wbreslin951: If you want to use Wubi you still need some space available for the install.
[20:24] <SebNaitsabes> wbreslin951: don't use Wubi
[20:24] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: the CPU is a couple of months away I think. Not sure when they will appear in Eee PCs
[20:24] <wbreslin951> asu i was thinking along the lines of booting like a livedisk but from the harddrive
[20:24] <wbreslin951> cuz live disk is really slow
[20:25] <wbreslin951> and if i boot from the hd it'll be alot faster
[20:25] <ashvee> install gyache in ubuntu
[20:25] <soundray> SebNaitsabes: recent CPUs have special features that help virtualization. Wikipedia has more info
[20:25] <wbreslin951> and the biggest reason i don't want to get rid of windows is cuz i have a bcm card
[20:25] <SebNaitsabes> wbreslin951: yes you can run Linux Live CD's in virtual machine software
[20:25] <wbreslin951> and that's my only way to get to internet
[20:25] <wbreslin951> seb will it be faster than just booting from the disk?
[20:25] <SebNaitsabes> wbreslin951:  you can run an ISO instead of using a CD
[20:26] <wbreslin951> how would i do that?
[20:26] <SebNaitsabes> wbreslin951: you understand that a Live CD is an ISO yes?
[20:26] <wbreslin951> yea
[20:26] <wbreslin951> SebNaitsabes: so how would i run the iso through windows?
[20:26] <SebNaitsabes> wbreslin951:  you can also do a small install of  Ubuntu in virtual machine software that will expand
[20:26] <ASULutzy> wbreslin951: I don't understand why you don't just setup dualboot, setting up wireless on a broadcom card isn't all that hard.
[20:26] <Pici> wbreslin951: Some broadcom models are supported in Ubuntu
[20:27] <amen51> hi,  a question about sending email: i want to e able to send mail from my yahoo email account, using a mutt + some simple MTA such as nbsmtp, but it does not work, any idea?
[20:27] <Scunizi> After logging into Pidgin and entering a short IM to someone, Pidgin closes. When starting pidgin from terminal no messages are shown that would indicate a problem.  Any ideas how to fix this? (vs8.04)
[20:27] <wbreslin951> ASULutzy: i know, im running live cd right now, but i don't wanna risk losing the wireless for whatever reason, its happened to me before
[20:27] <Mecha25> My broadcom works flawlessly in ubuntu, after ndiswrapper
[20:27] <SebNaitsabes> wbreslin951: why do you want to use Ubuntu inside Windows?
[20:27] <wbreslin951> Pici: my specific card is such a b**** to get working in ubuntu sometimes
[20:27] <ASULutzy> wbreslin951: What card is it?
[20:27] <solexious> [Q] My backspace key isnt working in ubuntu. It is in windows. Doesn't work in all programs. Has been fine in ubuntu up to now, any ideas?
[20:27] <wbreslin951> 4311
[20:28] <amen51> any channel regarding email questions?
[20:28] <SebNaitsabes> !wireless
[20:28] <wbreslin951> ill be back in a while
[20:28] <Gnea> !ask | amen51
[20:29] <gaintsura> could anyone suggest a REALLY good backup system for linux/windows? preferably one that doesn't require a client/server setup or require the use of tapedrives
[20:29] <{alejandro}> Hey, the other day my wireless stopped picking up networks and I am pretty sure it is a software issue
[20:29] <SebNaitsabes> !wireless
[20:29] <{alejandro}> fanks
[20:29] <LimCore_> gaintsura: use of tapedrives? lol?
[20:30] <Gnea> gaintsura: DVD.
[20:31] <amen51> Gena, i want to send email from my yahoo email account using mutt + nbsmtp
[20:31] <paolo> Hi *. On 2 different machines with ubuntu installed, I have problem playing media within compiz, i.e. sometimes (but not always) it wouldn't play audio and when I try to play a movie, it would play only with the -nosound option
[20:31] <amen51> Gena, but it does not seem to work
[20:31] <amen51> !ask
[20:31] <third3ye> Now here's a question: Cedega or Wine?
[20:32] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: depends on what program you want to run which is?
[20:32] <third3ye> Mostly multimedia programs and music production suites
[20:32] <evilbug> can kopete handle a/v chat with yahoo messenger?
[20:32] <third3ye> Like FLStudio and Propellerhead Reason
[20:32] <RandyboY> I have an Acer Aspire 7720Z here with a fresh Ubuntu(latest) install. The only nic that works is cabled network. "Hardware Drivers" Proprietary drivers are loaded. One for "Atheros Hardware Layer(HAL)" and one for "Support for Atheros 802,11 wireless LAN cards". But still i cant list my wireless nic. ifconfig -a lists only my cabled (ETH0) an lo (Loopback)... What could be wrong?
[20:32] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: well Cedega is a propritary software based on Wine for running games
[20:33] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye:  your question should have probably been,    Codeweavers Crossover Linux or Wine?
[20:33] <third3ye> heh
[20:33] <evilbug> third3ye- stay with win/osx for audio production.
[20:33] <third3ye> Isn't Crossover office based?
[20:33] <third3ye> evilbug: I wish I could :)
[20:33] <dannyboy> wat option do i sue with "rpm" so dat it will install all dependencies?
[20:33] <TJ-Linux> How do I change what a fixed drive gets mounted as when I select it in Nautilus?  It likes to name things like "drive1", which is entirely unintuitive... can I change the default somewhere?
[20:33] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: Codeweavers is a propritary software based on Wine, but it's offical
[20:33] <evilbug> third3ye- linux is not that great for it.
[20:33] <SebNaitsabes> unlike Cedega
[20:34] <third3ye> evilbug: I'm fully aware of that, thanks
[20:34] <evilbug> third3ye- i do audio production also.
[20:34] <{alejandro}> Okay can someone hold my hand through troubleshooting my wireless? The ubuntu docs aren't helpful
[20:34] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: Codeweavers  costs a lot of money,  and is rather user friendly
[20:34] <third3ye> My initial problem is this computer I'm on. It's the most powerfull computer but Windows XP install doesn't work on it because of certain S-ATA drivers are lacking
[20:34] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: for some things Codeweavers is better than Wine itself, but for most people WIne will be fine
[20:34] <ozpowermo> Hi all, does anybody have a workaround for installing gnome-desktop-environment? I get the following error when I try to install it: "gnome-keyring-manager (>=2.20.0) but it is not installable"... any help please? It would be greatly appreciated!
[20:34] <third3ye> Not only that but I can't seem to find a single friggin driver for it, even from the official site
[20:34] <evilbug> third3ye- and stuff like wine/crossover won't work that well with the software either.
[20:35] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye:  and for the programs your wanting to run,  well  you may need a virtual machine of Windows inside LInux
[20:35] <{alejandro}> I am using a dell inspiron and the wireless worked out of the box and suddenly stopped working
[20:35] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: I was afraid of that
[20:35] <gaintsura> (appologies for the repeat, was disconnected) could anyone suggest a REALLY good backup system for linux/windows? preferably one that doesn't require a client/server setup or require the use of tapedrives
[20:35] <third3ye> But I still wanna try
[20:35] <godzirra> I just setup ubuntu on my laptop and it says its getting connected to the network, and it lets me ping the router, but when I type "route" it hangs and I can't actually get anywhere outside my network.  Anyone have any ideas what's wrong?
[20:36] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye:  there are ways to get a lot of stuff working, but for a lot of it, well it invovles  messing around
[20:36] <third3ye> Because getting those drivers to insert into textmode XP install is friggin impossible
[20:36] <third3ye> I've googled the hell out of it
[20:36] <third3ye> Look, I'll even give you a chance to find the .inf
[20:36] <SebNaitsabes> third3eye: multimedia software you said,  uhmmmmmmmm I think I can get hold of this link that will maybe be useful for you
[20:36] <ozpowermo> Hi everybody: I'm having a "little" problem with my gnome desktop! does anybody have a workaround for installing gnome-desktop-environment? I get the following error when I try to install it: "gnome-keyring-manager (>=2.20.0) but it is not installable"... any help please? It would be greatly appreciated!
[20:36] <SebNaitsabes> third3eye:  yep native Linux multimedia programs link
[20:37] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: It's nice ^^ But more unstable than Reason and Wine
[20:37] <hitman1985> sup guys, i got sound all over but not in firefox / flash movies
[20:37] <SebNaitsabes> third3eye:  ah ha about your XP that's a psyical though
[20:38] <SebNaitsabes> third3eye:  virtual machines have the advantage of well you can pretty much choose what hardware they should emulate
[20:38] <hitman1985> any suggestions
[20:38] <KaiForce> Anyone know what I need to do to fix this:  gnome-keyring-daemon is giving me the following error:  Failed to unlock login on startup
[20:38] <drubin> KaiForce: You change your login password,  gnome?
[20:38] <SebNaitsabes> third3eye: also it can use the host OS for stuff
[20:38] <vdsy> KaiForce: /etc/group maybe?
[20:38] <SebNaitsabes> third3eye: so Ubuntu in this case
[20:38] <KaiForce> drubin:  I think i used passwd to do that....
[20:39] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: That kinda defeats the purpose of those computer :P
[20:39] <thurston> hi guys. does anyone here use Wine?
[20:39] <third3ye> You see, I got this computer after it had been in use at a friend of mine for well over a year
[20:39] <KaiForce> will that knock me out of sync with the keyring manager?
[20:39] <third3ye> I needed a faster computer to produce music with
[20:39] <third3ye> Problem is that if I emulate to much the whole advantage is removed
[20:39] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: well  you can give most RAM to the VM and hardly any to Ubuntu and there you go :d
[20:39] <third3ye> And thus I am at square one
[20:39] <ozpowermo> Hi all, does anybody have a workaround for installing gnome-desktop-environment? I get the following error when I try to install it: "gnome-keyring-manager (>=2.20.0) but it is not installable"... any help please? It would be greatly appreciated! Anybody? PLEASE?
[20:39] <third3ye> hmm
[20:40] <drubin> KaiForce:  I had the same issue
[20:40] <NodeRazor> Which is more updated Ubuntu or Fedora?
[20:40] <drubin> KaiForce: ** continue** but it only happened after i changed  my login details,   but my one just asks for the password to unlock the keyring
[20:40] <vdsy> NodeRazor, arch is more updated than any of them hehe
[20:41] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: You make a persuasive argument
[20:41] <drubin> NodeRazor:  I prefer Ubuntu, and yes they have the same release cycles now
[20:41] <KaiForce> i remember my old password, I'm going to try to reset the keyring password
[20:41] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: But are there any alternatives, or a alternative to VMWare?
[20:41] <hotspotCZ> Fedora has fucked up server infrastructure right now...
[20:41] <drubin> vdsy:  the whole arch/ubuntu thing he he he next it is going to be  Gnome vs KDE shh i didn't
[20:41] <NodeRazor> yeah, I'v noticed that too.
[20:41] <drubin> Virtual box @ third3ye    #vbox
[20:41] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: oh yes  VMware pft.  Virtualbox on the other hand big :)
[20:42] <drubin> third3ye:  It is great, i just set it up last night
[20:42] <NodeRazor> Arch Linux updated very often ;-)
[20:42] <vdsy> drubin: im not for or against any of them...he asked a question of which is more updated, i mentioned arch because i do love arch
[20:42] <hotspotCZ> and that lasts for over a week i guess, they should fix it immediately
[20:42] <NodeRazor> But its source based right?
[20:42] <vdsy> drubin: they're all linux after all right
[20:42] <drubin> vdsy: Is arch based on Ubuntu??
[20:42] <vdsy> drubin: no
[20:42] <hotspotCZ> hahaha
[20:43] <lordleemo> is this ubuntu help? or lets all talk about arch?
[20:43] <hotspotCZ> arch linux? i tried to install it last week, but i just couldn't connect to any server during process...
[20:43] <hotspotCZ> yeah, fuck that
[20:43] <drubin> vdsy:  Yes i would MUCh  rather liunux vs the other
[20:43] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye:  I guess you will want USB support though.  so the Open Source Version that you can get from the repo is no good.  meaning you would need to get the PUEL cloused source version  http://www.virtualbox.org
[20:43] <vdsy> NodeRazor: nope, not source-based..check it out http://archlinux.org/
[20:43] <NodeRazor> vdsy, I know.
[20:43] <NodeRazor> vdsy, the site, I mean.
[20:43] <kevinO> !language | hotspotCZ
[20:44] <NodeRazor> no sh
[20:44] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: Need all the trimmings then, ey? Compiler, libraries, etc?
[20:44] <vdsy> drubin, absolutely, i just dont understand the distor wars thing, they're all good for certain purposes
[20:44] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye:  I guess I meant this link  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080622143124178/Audio.html  that's for audio software
[20:44] <slacker_nl> hello, does anyone know what rF means in dpkg -l ?
[20:44] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: what do you mean?
[20:44] <SebNaitsabes> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080622143124178/Audio.html
[20:44] <SilverFox_> hey, what's the name of the software that allows me to run ubuntu w/in windows?
[20:44] <billy____> how can i make an ubuntu vm in windows?
[20:44] <drubin> vdsy: I think ubuntu is not a great production server, but love it for a desktop
[20:44] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: This is a vanilla ubuntu ^^;; So to compile you need compilers, ey?
[20:44] <NodeRazor> Siilence, VirtualBox
[20:44] <third3ye> I'm green, btw
[20:44] <hawkx> hi
[20:44] <third3ye> I'm an oldschool nixer
[20:44] <lordleemo> i personally prefer a linux distrubution that doesnt look like fookin windows. All you gui lovers..:)
[20:44] <NodeRazor> SilverFox_, VirtualBox
[20:44] <third3ye> But I've skipped a couple of generations
[20:45] <drubin> vdsy: I have only tried Feroda and Ubuntu desktops before
[20:45] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: you got all the stuff you need already for Virtualbox
[20:45] <NodeRazor> if using x32 os
[20:45] <NodeRazor> if x64 then vmware
[20:45] <SilverFox_> node357: is that the installer that comes w/UbunTU?
[20:45] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: well except for the PUEL virtualbox itself
[20:45] <phantom> Hi all !! Is there a distro that can back up partitiones (in live mode)?
[20:45] <vdsy> drubin: ive ran a slackware desktop, freebsd, ubuntu, and now arch....
[20:45] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: I mean you do want USB support?
[20:45] <vdsy> drubin: all good
[20:45] <SilverFox_> aha!
[20:45] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: Everything thats possible I want
[20:45] <billy____> can i run a 64bit ubuntu vm distro in a 32bit windows environment?
[20:45] <SilverFox_> Wubi
[20:45] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: Gimme cutting edge
[20:45] <drubin> vdsy: Did not like fedroa, hey, I like centOS for our servers though
[20:46] <third3ye> Had Debian people yelling at me for using unstable Debian then asking for support :D
[20:46]  * Mecha25 curses Wubi for being so deceptively simple
[20:46] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye:  yep then you need the PUEL not the OSE  from http://www.virtualbox.org yep PUEL
[20:46] <drubin> third3ye:  That is not nice,
[20:46] <billy____> how do i run an ubuntu vm?
[20:46] <drubin> third3ye: That is why i like Ubuntu so much, the comunity is nicer.
[20:46] <SilverFox_> Will Wubi allow me to have direct access to the hardwaRE?  ie, can I run wireshark and dsniff from w/in it?
[20:46] <Sk8rdude> does anyone know how to mount an ftp dir in fstab?
[20:46] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: Puel? Is it source code or binary?
[20:46] <third3ye> drubin: Indeed
[20:46] <phantom>  Is there a distro that can back up NTFS partitiones (in live mode)?
[20:47] <vdsy> drubinl, yeah a friend told me about it, apparently his companny runs it...a minor complaint, i really cant stand how slow RPM is, ive ran opensuse before too see how it works, it's slow
[20:47] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: can't rmeember, but it's easy enough to install when you follow the site
[20:47] <vaportrail123> whats the shortcut to switch between workspaces
[20:47] <uoaphys> Hi, I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed here, but wanted to get KDE4.1 on it, and be able to see it as an option when I login. Can someone help me with that?
[20:47] <SilverFox_> control-alt left/right
[20:47] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: saying that I have a link for installing that I think  as well
[20:47] <Phase> If I was to connect another internal harddrive, would ubuntu automatically pick it up? (assuming it's not broken, which is what I want to figure out)
[20:47] <SilverFox_> or control-alt-number of workspace
[20:47] <vaportrail123> ty
[20:47] <mizipzor> according to winehq.com, 1.0 is the latest stable release, but is there a way to get the development version through apt-get?
[20:47] <Sk8rdude> you would have to mount it phase
[20:47] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: ,but you can just go to #vbox anyway and they  can help with installing if you get a problem
[20:47] <Sk8rdude> but it should appear
[20:47] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: I can find an OSE edition
[20:47] <SilverFox_> no ideas on wubi?
[20:48] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: you don't want the OSE
[20:48] <Phase> Sk8rdude, I figured, but I'm not sure how I would figure out what sda it is :P
[20:48] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: you want PUEL
[20:48] <chao1> Hello room
[20:48] <Sk8rdude> system --> admin --> system monitor
[20:48] <vdsy> drubin: funny u say about the commnity being nicer, i was running slakcware for a while, and the community has this elititst thing going, pretty much the main reason i switched to arch
[20:48] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: well the site tells you the difference between the two versions one of which is how OSE does not do USB
[20:49] <Phase> Sk8rdude, Thanks.
[20:49] <Sk8rdude> np
[20:49] <billy____> is there anyway to boot the linux iso for livedisk from an sd card?
[20:49] <vdsy> drubin: and yeah, arch community is about as nice as ubuntu i find anyway
[20:49] <lbt> so I'm doing a netinstall from a usb stick with unetbootin. Partitioning OK (20Gb xfs /). The installing base system failed (twice) with "initscripts: depends lsb-base >=3.2.14 but 3.2-14ubuntu1 is to be installed.....
[20:49] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: also you could dual boot Linux and Windows
[20:49] <Sk8rdude> billy: if your pc can boot from it yes... is the sd card reader connected to a usb controller?
[20:49] <drubin> vdsy:  Going to make dinner, will be back soon we can finish this discussion
[20:49] <chao1> Check out my GDM theme and tell me what you think: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=87516
[20:50] <avoozl> sorry to crosspost, but is there any hardy installer available with a 2.6.26 kernel?  I'm currently trying to 'slipstream' in my own newly build kernel, but this turned out to be more tricky than i thought
[20:50] <billy____> Sk8rdude: not sure.. i have a dell 1501 with a built in sdcard reader
[20:50] <lbt> I'm in text mode - any suggestions? It suggests apt-get -f install...
[20:50] <avoozl> i also tried to convince the intrepid alpha4 installer to use hardy packages, but that ran into a few other problems
[20:50] <lbt> do I have to chroot /target or something?
[20:50] <billy____> Sk8rdude?
[20:50] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: But I can't install Windows ^^;;
[20:50] <sexy_man_XD> :)
[20:50] <chao1> If anyone wants to 'try' Ubuntu try http://wubi-installer.org
[20:50] <sexy_man_XD> :)
[20:50] <sexy_man_XD> :)
[20:50] <sexy_man_XD> :)
[20:50] <sexy_man_XD> :)
[20:50] <sexy_man_XD> :)
[20:50] <FloodBot2> sexy_man_XD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <lbt> (asking b4 fiddling too much)
[20:51] <sexy_man_XD> :)
[20:51] <Sk8rdude> billy: chances are it's on a usb controller in which case it should appear when you bring up the boot list
[20:51] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: It requires some obscure S-ATA drivers to be installed into Textmode
[20:51] <NodeRazor> Arch Linux, "We try to stay fairly bleeding edge, and typically have the latest stable versions of software. "
[20:51] <NodeRazor> very nice
[20:51] <third3ye> Which are impossible to find, even on the vendors web-site
[20:51] <billy____> Sk8rdude what would it say?
[20:51] <billy____> Sk8rdude is there anyway i can get the bootlist without going into setup?
[20:51] <chao1> If anyone wants to 'try' Ubuntu try http://wubi-installer.org
[20:51] <billy____> dont wanna turn off comp lol
[20:51] <Sk8rdude> when you turn on the computer it should have a list
[20:51] <Sk8rdude> err
[20:51] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: oh right yeah.  so VM to get round that
[20:51] <NodeRazor> Does any one here use Arch?
[20:51] <Sk8rdude> you need to restart the pc to boot from the sd card anyway
[20:51] <lbt> or is this not the place for install help?
[20:52] <billy____> sk8r
[20:52] <billy____> i know that
[20:52] <Sk8rdude> if you want to install linux from windows use wubi?
[20:52] <SebNaitsabes> cha1:  looks very nice, altough  welcome home seems noob to me
[20:52] <NodeRazor> How hard is to build packages with pacman compare to deb's ?
[20:52] <billy____> but i don't wanna turn it off unless i know i can boot from the usb
[20:52] <Sk8rdude> oh
[20:52] <Sk8rdude> well you can't know
[20:52] <LinuxGhost> may any1 knows how to delete/move a SPSS Installation Folder I put on my desktop while installing SPSS Program on my Ubuntu 8.04LTS???
[20:52] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: Please link me the PUEL download, if you would be so kind ^^;; I can't seem to find that either
[20:52] <billy____> so what do i do just put the iso on my sdcard?
[20:52] <RandyboY> I have an Acer Aspire 7720Z here with a fresh Ubuntu(latest) install. The only nic that works is cabled network. "Hardware Drivers" Proprietary drivers are loaded. One for "Atheros Hardware Layer(HAL)" and one for "Support for Atheros 802,11 wireless LAN cards". But still i cant list my wireless nic. ifconfig -a lists only my cabled (ETH0) an lo (Loopback)... What could be wrong?
[20:52] <third3ye> I must seem hopeless at googling
[20:52] <tonohono> NodeRazor: Arch has it's own channel at #archlinux here. As for the OS, it's a great Linux learning experience, but eats up too much time for my liking :)
[20:52] <Sk8rdude> no you need to write it using an app like unetbootin
[20:52] <SebNaitsabes> third3ye: go to #vbox and they will help you with all that I am sure
[20:52] <NodeRazor> thanks
[20:53] <Teisei> Sk8rdude: In my own experience, installing Ubuntu 8.04 from Windows does not work very well ...
[20:53] <billy____> kk.. and i can get the iso off of the live disk right?
[20:53] <sexy_man_XD> GO #fallen
[20:53] <sexy_man_XD> GO #fallen
[20:53] <sexy_man_XD> GO #fallen
[20:53] <slacker_nl> RandyboY: dmesg | grep eth , can you see your wifi network card there?
[20:53] <Sk8rdude> if you have the live disk burned then you would need to do it a different way
[20:53] <sexy_man_XD> #fallen
[20:53] <sexy_man_XD> GO #fallen
[20:53]  * hateball stabs sexy_man_XD
[20:53] <Sk8rdude> an iso is just an image of a disc
[20:53] <LinuxGhost> ay any1 knows how to delete/move a SPSS Installation Folder I put on my desktop while installing SPSS Program on my Ubuntu 8.04LTS???
[20:53] <billy____> Sk8rdude i have the live disk that ubuntu sent me in the mail
[20:54] <lbt> so I'm doing a netinstall of 8.10 from a usb stick with unetbootin. Partitioning OK (20Gb xfs /). The installing base system failed (twice) with "initscripts: depends lsb-base >=3.2.14 but 3.2-14ubuntu1 is to be installed.....
[20:54] <third3ye> SebNaitsabes: So far the best reply was "<JshWright> third3ye: www.virtualbox.org"
[20:54] <Sk8rdude> so why do you want to install off an sd card?
[20:54] <LinuxGhost> May any1 knows how to delete/move a SPSS Installation Folder I put on my desktop while installing SPSS Program on my Ubuntu 8.04LTS???
[20:54] <Mecha25> SPSS runs on ubuntu?
[20:54] <lbt> do you seriously think that that is the problem? Sk8rdude
[20:54] <LinuxGhost> Run using WINE
[20:54] <billy____> Sk8rdude i don't wan to install off of an sdcard
[20:54] <Mecha25> oh
[20:55] <billy____> i want to run it from the sdcard and leave windows on the hard drive
[20:55] <Overand> Hey - I have a semi-advanced software-raid question.
[20:55] <lbt> Overand: ...
[20:55] <billy____> cuz sdcard will be faster than running livedisk
[20:55] <Overand> lbt: typing it =]
[20:55] <Sk8rdude> err
[20:55] <billy____> ?
[20:55] <Overand> lbt: I have a 'temporary' external USB drive that I rebuilt a degraded RAID 5 array to while I'm waiting for my proper replacement internal driv e
[20:55] <Sk8rdude> well the process of putting the cd onto the sd card would take much longer than just installing it off the cd to start with
[20:56] <Sk8rdude> just boot from the cd and be done with it
[20:56] <Overand> is there a 'correct' way to replace that with the repalcement drive without having to put the array into a degraded state?
[20:56] <lbt> Overand: yes
[20:56] <lbt> if you can shut down the array
[20:57] <lbt> you can use ddrescue (or dd) to image the usb onto the replacement
[20:57] <billy____> Sk8rdude: ive used ubuntu before, i love it, i just don't want to get rid of windows. i want to be able to use it off the sd card whenever.. its too slow off the live disk tho
[20:57] <RandyboY> I have an Acer Aspire 7720Z here with a fresh Ubuntu(latest) install. The only nic that works is cabled network. "Hardware Drivers" Proprietary drivers are loaded. One for "Atheros Hardware Layer(HAL)" and one for "Support for Atheros 802,11 wireless LAN cards". But still i cant list my wireless nic. ifconfig -a lists only my cabled (ETH0) an lo (Loopback)... What could be wrong?
[20:57] <Overand> lbt: unfortuantely the system boots from the array, but i can run it off of a live CD
[20:57] <third3ye> Well I give this support channel six thumbs up
[20:57] <lbt> that'll do
[20:57] <Overand> my concern isn't about uptime so much as not having the syste,m in a degraded state
[20:57] <third3ye> As apposed to #VBox and #Windows :S
[20:57] <Sk8rdude> ok  well you have 2 options
[20:57] <third3ye> oooo... spam >.< I'm not used to ircing ^^;; soz
[20:57] <Sk8rdude> you can just make a new partition
[20:57] <lbt> install the new drive, make sure the array is down
[20:57] <billy____> Sk8rdude i would but not enough room lol
[20:57] <Sk8rdude> and install it on the hdd
[20:58] <lbt> ddrescue the partition (making sure the size is *exactly* the same)
[20:58] <Overand> lbt: heh - snag there.
[20:58] <lbt> ...?
[20:58] <Overand> lbt: the 'temporary repalcement' drive is larger
[20:58] <lbt> oh, that's fine
[20:58] <lbt> are you using partitions?
[20:58] <lbt> or full disks
[20:59] <lbt> (nb this is why you should use partitions)
[20:59] <Overand> i.e. i'm going from a 750 gig 'raid partition' of a whole disk back down to a 740 gig raid paritition
[20:59] <Overand> that may be a show-stopper
[20:59] <lbt> the word "ah" springs to mind
[20:59] <Sk8rdude> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:59] <zozobra> Hi all. Since the change from the bash shell to dash, how do I set it so that when navigating files in the terminal, they're showin in color? I've tried creating a .dashc file and that didn't work.
[20:59] <Sk8rdude> follow those billy
[20:59] <Overand> lbt: heh.
[20:59] <billy____> tight thanks
[21:00] <Sk8rdude> np
[21:00] <lbt> well, md uses the space incrementally
[21:00] <Overand> lbt: the original system was 4 750 gig drives, with 2 2 gig partitions and one 740ish gig partition
[21:00] <lbt> ok - have the other disks got partitions?
[21:00] <Overand> the 'temporary' drive was a megabyte short or so, and fdisk was reporting blocks differently
[21:00] <iseit> epale mamadores
[21:00] <third3ye> Which Java is recommended for Ubuntu? Standard Sun Java, IBM, or Blackdown?
[21:00] <lbt> mmm - sounds dodgy
[21:00] <n3hima> can somebody please direct me to config files for a webcam (eee pc 900 with eeepc kernel)
[21:01] <lbt> I would run a smartctl -t long
[21:01] <iseit> cuentame
[21:01] <lbt> on the good drives
[21:01] <iseit> la gente del iseit
[21:01] <lbt> then rebuild
[21:01] <zozobra> third3ye: I've found the standard Sun to work just fine and lots of apps like openfire utilize it.
[21:01] <lbt> it'll go degraded but you're minimising the window
[21:01] <lbt> you are more likely to screw the entire fs
[21:01] <lbt> by miscopying a few blocks
[21:02] <lbt> and telling the raid that it is good.
[21:02] <hardhatpat> what user is the binary apache2 supposed to run as?
[21:02] <lbt> try http://linux-raid.osdl.org/ for more info
[21:02] <friendlybrain> Hi I have a Wusb v2.8 and I downloaded wifi radar and it can see my network, and it says I'm connected but for some reason I'm not, firefox doesn't work
[21:02] <zozobra> hardhatpat: that depends on your security. you can run it as "apache" or "nobody". I would suggest reading up on apache security for that.
[21:02] <hardhatpat> zozobra, thanks
[21:02] <ikonia> hardhatpat: www-data
[21:03] <hardhatpat> actually it turns out i had commented out the default lines, and it was www-data
[21:03] <ikonia> hardhatpat: www-data is the default ubuntu user
[21:03] <friendlybrain> Linksys Wusb11... It seems to work out of the box
[21:03] <hardhatpat> i feel bad for turning to irc before actually reading my configs :(
[21:03] <friendlybrain> (I can see my network in network manager too, but that won't connect either
[21:03] <friendlybrain> The network has WEP encryption, it is a long hex key
[21:03] <Daze1> Hey, I set up my win xp vbox with a sharing folder, and i go to map network drive, and "virtual box shared folders" is in there, but the shared folder i chose isnt under it
[21:03] <Expl01ted> hardhatpat: join a long list of people who have done the same :D
[21:04] <hitman1985> ok, last attempt for today, is there a straight up tutorial for having all the sound setup with pulse in 5.1! ?
[21:04] <lbt> INSTALL HELP please :) .... so I'm doing a netinstall of 8.10 from a usb stick with unetbootin. Partitioning OK (20Gb xfs /). The installing base system failed (twice) with "initscripts: depends lsb-base >=3.2.14 but 3.2-14ubuntu1 is to be installed..... how do I resolve this?
[21:04] <friendlybrain> and it says I'm connected to the network in Wifi Radar, but I can't access the internet!!
[21:04] <hitman1985> i cant seem to get stuff straight here at all :(
[21:04] <hitman1985> i got sound in skype then flashplayer aint got no sound
[21:04] <hitman1985> i got sound in flash then skype dont have no sound
[21:04] <hitman1985> i dont get this confusing stuff anymore :(
[21:04] <Daze1> I set up my win xp vbox with a sharing folder, and i go to map network drive, and "virtual box shared folders" is in there, but the shared folder i chose isnt under it
[21:05] <friendlybrain> can any1 help
[21:05] <kane77> hi.. how do I change screen resolution in A) login screen, B) fluxbox?
[21:05] <TJ-Linux> How do I change the default mount point that the file browser (nautilus) uses when mounting a drive by clicking on it?
[21:05] <EruditeHermit> is there a simple proxy tool that runs from the commandline that can start any program using a predefined proxy?
[21:06] <friendlybrain> I have a Linksys Wusb11 v2.8 wireless adapter, it seemed to work out of the box, and Wifi Radar says I'm connected, but I can't connect
[21:06] <Alistair> Help: b4 I could go to Network/Windows Server click on it to access. Now the Windows Server is empty, and I have to type the IP address in the GO bar. Any ideas?
[21:06] <LimCore> EruditeHermit: simple - no, not that I know off.  There are some tools like  socat... other tools like tor... they /a bit/ do something related to what you described
[21:07] <LimCore> EruditeHermit: also,  you could try setting env variable (what was it... HTTP_PROXY=.. ? I think....?)  and then tell givne program to use system configuraiton for proxy (i.e. fire fox does it)
[21:07] <Scorcher> friend: wirless adapter for the computer or a wireless repeater/access ;point?
[21:07] <LimCore> EruditeHermit: so like say...  export HTTP_PROXY=... ; firefox        but read mroe on it and test
[21:07] <Scunizi> how do I purge an installed program from terminal using apt?
[21:07] <RandyboY> I have an Acer Aspire 7720Z here with a fresh Ubuntu(latest) install. The only nic that works is cabled network. "Hardware Drivers" Proprietary drivers are loaded. One for "Atheros Hardware Layer(HAL)" and one for "Support for Atheros 802,11 wireless LAN cards". But still i cant list my wireless nic. ifconfig -a lists only my cabled (ETH0) an lo (Loopback)... What could be wrong?
[21:07] <Overand> lbt: ew. that's ugly
[21:07] <friendlybrain> Scorcher: It is a USB wireless adapter called Linksys Wusb11 v2.8
[21:07] <Overand> lbt: you might want to look in #Ubuntu+1 ?
[21:07] <EruditeHermit> LimCore: I tried that, it works but not quite. Some firefox plugins don't honour the proxy
[21:08] <hitman1985> is there a special channel for sound and ubuntu ?
[21:08] <friendlybrain> Scorcher: It seems to work out of the box(wifi radar and network manager detect my networks)
[21:08] <infz_> Should the Alternate Install work from an USB stick?
[21:08] <David-A> Is there a kill that kills better than "sudo kill -9 PID" when that does not kill?
[21:08] <Scorcher> friend: i ubuntu detects it, it should also detect the wireless networks in range...  what is the problem?
[21:08] <LimCore> EruditeHermit: uh... strange.... perhaps it is a bug in them?  try reporting to authors and/or firefox dvels
[21:08] <Overand> lbt: re: my array, if i do it offline anyway, if the rebuild goes bad i MIGHT be able to recover
[21:08] <Daze1> I set up my win xp vbox with a sharing folder, and i go to map network drive, and "virtual box shared folders" is in there, but the shared folder i chose isnt under it
[21:09] <{alejandro}> I am also having a wireless problem - I got a dell inspiron recently that came with ubuntu and the wireless card (Intel ProSet I think) worked fine out of the box but now all of a sudden it won't pick up any networks. The driver is fine, I think (iwl3945) but it seems to be disabled. Here's the relevant section of lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/38899/
[21:09] <friendlybrain> Scorcher: IT detects the networks, and Wifi Radar says I'm connected to my network, but I can't access the internet! In Windows on the same network I can
[21:09] <Daze1> I had respect for Niel Young until he tried to rhyme "Rust" with "forgotten"
[21:09] <Daze1> friggin tard
[21:09] <lbt> Overand:
[21:09] <Scunizi> How do I purge pidgin for a reinstall?
[21:09] <RequinB4> Scunizi: sudo apt-get purge pidgin
[21:09] <bigmack83> i am trying to make the transition from windows to ubuntu. can anyone recommend a site that tell me about the file system and what folders do what? like what folder has the system files or what folder has the programs installed in it ect...
[21:09] <lbt> Overand: yes
[21:09] <ango> How do I install this? ==> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/rt2400/rt2570-1.1.0-b2.tar.gz?download
[21:10] <Scunizi> RequinB4: thanks.. I was using --purge thats why it wasn't working
[21:10] <Scorcher> freiend: what is the output for ifconfig -a result?
[21:10] <vaportrail124> so, every time i try to play a music file, my comp crashes. halp!
[21:10] <lbt> I've seen a lot of very screwed raid5's recovered
[21:10] <Expl01ted> I installed Firebug for firefox, it doesn't want to give itself or me the option to delete it, where on earth do I look for these config files.
[21:10] <Daze1> where did the expression "Screwed the pooch" come from?
[21:10] <thurston> hi guys. does having xp on my system help wine work better?
[21:10] <Scorcher> ango: just download it....  ubuntu should ask if you would like to save or install with dpkg
[21:10] <vaportrail124> audacious workz, but the default player does not
[21:11] <lbt> the request (to swap out a disk without going degraded) is on the todo list
[21:11] <Scunizi> thurloat: no
[21:11] <thurston> i like that new name haha
[21:11] <Expl01ted> vaportrail124: mplayer?
[21:11] <Scorcher> ango: i mean if you would like to open with dpkg
[21:11] <vaportrail124> yupo
[21:11] <{alejandro}> thurston it creates it's own fake windows ish thing in your ubuntu install so a local install of xp does about jack squat
[21:11] <ango> j/msg Scorcher after downloading it, how do I install it?
[21:11] <lbt> but given you've got some funky partition sizes then you're (IMHO) more likely to screw up trying to be clever
[21:11] <thurston> ok
[21:12] <vladdY> does anyone know any good faxserver for ubuntu server
[21:12] <hitman1985> any1 whos good with 8.04 hardy and sound
[21:12] <thurston> i was just wondering because im downloading hl2dm in steam right now and im booted into linux
[21:12] <lbt> when you assemble the raid, don't mount it
[21:12] <thurston> im a total linux noob so i get confused
[21:12] <Daze1> I set up my win xp vbox with a sharing folder, and i go to map network drive, and "virtual box shared folders" is in there, but the shared folder i chose isnt under it
[21:12] <{alejandro}> wine is really confusing
[21:12] <{alejandro}> well not really
[21:12] <thurston> so do you guys think that i should jsut....get rid of windows?
[21:12] <Daze1> virtual box channel anyone?
[21:12] <Daze1> !vbox
[21:12] <lbt> Overand: then, if a disk does go bad you can go back to using the usb one
[21:12] <{alejandro}> but if you aren't familiar with it you are usually surprised when it doesn't meet your expectations
[21:12] <Sk8rdude> #vbox daze
[21:12] <Daze1> thx
[21:13] <aechols> Hello world
[21:13] <{alejandro}> I am also having a wireless problem - I got a dell inspiron recently that came with ubuntu and the wireless card (Intel ProSet I think) worked fine out of the box but now all of a sudden it won't pick up any networks. The driver is fine, I think (iwl3945) but it seems to be disabled. Here's the relevant section of lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/38899/
[21:13] <Sk8rdude> anyone know how to mount an ftp directory in fstab??
[21:13] <aechols> Just testing my new setup with Pidgin for IRC
[21:13] <aechols> Anyone getting this?
[21:13] <NickSavage> hello, all
[21:13] <{alejandro}> of course
[21:13] <Daze1> aechols: Yo
[21:13] <aechols> Hello
[21:13] <aechols> Coo
[21:13] <aechols> this is much nicer than using xchat
[21:14] <Daze1> set it to make a sound when someone says your name :D
[21:14] <{alejandro}> has anyone had this problem before? I can't seem to figure out how to reverse whatever I did to break my wireless
[21:14] <aechols> at least for rooms that i use often
[21:14] <hitman1985> whats the best chat or irc channel to get some stuff about sound under ubuntu goin ?
[21:14] <Rounin> Hello! I was wondering if anyone knows whether Ubuntu now includes version <IP_ADDRESS> or later of the Madwifi HAL, which supports the Atheros AR5007EG card
[21:14] <aechols> Aight, catch ya'all lata
[21:14] <NickSavage> aechols: what are you using instead of xchat?
[21:14] <aechols> Pidgin
[21:14] <NickSavage> ah, nice
[21:14] <{alejandro}> Rounin look it up in synaptic - it's part of ubuntu-restricted-drivers or something along those lines
[21:15] <Rounin> Thanks a bunch, {alejandro}!
[21:15] <aechols> I like it better
[21:15] <NickSavage> I'm using irssi
[21:15] <gaintsura> Rounin: I don't think so, I had to manually install after the latest upgrade
[21:15] <{alejandro}> I don't get why my driver doesn't work though :(
[21:15] <aechols> I use pidgin to connect to my xmpp at work and now my irc with a little of my msn all sprinkled together
[21:15] <Rounin> Ah I see... Well thanks so much both of you... I'll make sure I have the source, too
[21:15] <RandyboY> I have an Acer Aspire 7720Z here with a fresh Ubuntu(latest) install. The only nic that works is cabled network. "Hardware Drivers" Proprietary drivers are loaded. One for "Atheros Hardware Layer(HAL)" and one for "Support for Atheros 802,11 wireless LAN cards". But still i cant list my wireless nic. ifconfig -a lists only my cabled (ETH0) an lo (Loopback)... What could be wrong?
[21:16] <gaintsura> {alejandro}: whats it doing/not doing
[21:16] <ajhtiredwolf> Hey I am trying to get my remote from my sabrent sbd-tvfm card to work with tvtime on ubuntu
[21:16] <teeu334> {alejandro}: any kind of wireless switch (hardware) on the notebook?
[21:16] <{alejandro}> well I got it a week ago
[21:16] <guesswho> I have a bluesocket gateway which only has a com port which i bought a com i/o to ps/2 keyboard convertor hardware peice and it is giving me keyboard errors , i think the com port is dead, so the only way for me to login to that machine is SSH, i took the harddrive out of the machine and installed ubuntu LAMP server but it boots to where i can login, but cant type my un or pw due to no keyboard, how can i get it to start up to ssh, so i can
[21:16] <guesswho> login to it from my other ubuntu pc?
[21:16] <{alejandro}> and it was one of the dell inspirons with ubuntu preinstalled and it all worked out of the box
[21:16] <gaintsura> teeu334: lol when I first got my laptop I spaced that it had that switch, spent 2 hours on a hard line wondering why I couldn't get wireless
[21:17] <{alejandro}> but I installed a few packages one day (not sure which ones might have done it) and my wireless card hasn't been picking up networks since
[21:17] <{alejandro}> like lshw says it's disabled but I am not sure how to change this
[21:17] <{alejandro}> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38899/
[21:17] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi guys, without giving the usual answer "it depends what u need it for" i'd like to know your opinion about: what's the best desktop environment for linux? (dont link me the bots chan plzz)
[21:17] <{alejandro}> is the relavent section
[21:17] <gaintsura> {alejandro}: try re-installing the drivers?
[21:17] <teeu334> {alejandro}: "a few packages" doesn't help much
[21:17] <lbt> Overand: I suggest dropping a mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I'll answer there.
[21:18] <mizipzor> it seems that steam (through wine) doesnt detect that i change keyboard layout, this is under gnome, it works as expected under kde... what could be wrong?
[21:18] <SebNaitsabes> strawbeRRy_fieLd:  Gnome with a few KDE apps as well
[21:18] <{alejandro}> I know - I kind of installed a lot of things... I'll look through synaptic for a minute...
[21:18] <teeu334> gaintsura: the driver is part of the kernel, not an extra package
[21:18] <{alejandro}> the thing is though it worked out of the box
[21:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> like what SebNaitsabes?
[21:18] <teeu334> giesen: iwl3945 is in mainline kernel since 2.6.24
[21:18] <gaintsura> teeu334: yes, but that doesn't mean it cant be re-installed
[21:18] <gaintsura> teeu334: I have to do it every time the kernel upgrades
[21:19] <SebNaitsabes> strawbeRRy_fieLd:   K3B, Konversation, and kdiskfree
[21:19] <teeu334> gaintsura: then your driver is _not_ part of the kernel image
[21:19] <EruditeHermit> LimCore: thanks for the ideas btw
[21:19] <gaintsura> teeu334: madwifi
[21:19] <gaintsura> so yes, I know that
[21:19] <teeu334> gaintsura: iwl3945 is in mainline kernel, not an external driver module
[21:19] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> Konversation ok, what are the other 2 for?
[21:19] <Guest23178> hello. can someone help me with the touchpad on my apple macbook, im running ubuntu 7.10
[21:20] <teeu334> gaintsura: madwifi will never be in mainline (not fully open source)
[21:20] <SebNaitsabes> strawbeRRy_fieLd:  K3B is an amzing CD and DVD burning program and kdiskfree is for showing how much space has been used up on the hard disk
[21:20] <gaintsura> teeu334: that would probably explain a lot, but I don't mind as long as I don't have to reboot to use some of my network tools
[21:20] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ah alright got it
[21:20] <SebNaitsabes> did you get my PM?
[21:20] <Guest23178> i would scroll with two fingers and something more..
[21:20] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sorry ive just seen it
[21:21] <guesswho> strawbeRRy_fieLd; ive tried both k3b and the built in brasero and prefer brasero
[21:21] <nogear__> armyops250-linux.run - How do i run that program?
[21:21] <teeu334> {alejandro}: can you scan wireless networks with  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan ?
[21:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i want to understand
[21:21] <Guest23178> nogear_ sh armyops...
[21:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> if i install gnome, the commands are gonna be different?
[21:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> in terminal?
[21:21] <infz_> How can I make the Alternate Installation CD to work from USB?
[21:21] <mizipzor> uhm, gnomes keyboard layout handling isnt broken, is it?
[21:21] <remsoft> hi everybody
[21:22] <computer13137> Hello.
[21:22] <SebNaitsabes> strawbeRRy_fieLd: some commands are slightly differnet between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but most are the same
[21:22] <guesswho> strawbeRRy_fieLd; gnome is just the gui part of the system, does not effect terminal commands i do not think
[21:22] <computer13137> Does anyone know how I can force my VNC Server to run at boot time, rather than having the user login and type "vncserver" to open their screen?
[21:22] <Zortheus> hola
[21:22] <computer13137> I'd like to do this for multiple users.
[21:23] <Zortheus> alguien sabe si me puedo conectar desde ubuntu al irc hispano y como?
[21:23] <teeu334> !es | Zortheus
[21:23] <dorito> computer13137 go to system > preferences > systems
[21:23] <guesswho> ok no answer to the ssh question.. how about this one.. how come i can not download ubuntu updates anymore, it gives me a fetch error
[21:23] <chao1> does anyone know of a proactive virus scanner that will scan mounted usb drives, running processes, and files that are downloaded?
[21:23] <{alejandro}> okay well I am pretty lost still
[21:23] <dorito> you can add any program to start as soon as the computer boots up from there
[21:23] <teeu334> {alejandro}: can you scan wireless networks with  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan ?
[21:24] <Zortheus> gracias
[21:24] <computer13137> Dorito: I have no GUI, I just have Xfce installed with VNC so I don't have to use X forwarding.
[21:24] <Legendario> hi, could anyone help me to make my microphone work? I can hear it on the speakers, but i can't use to record a sound o talk on skype...
[21:24] <{alejandro}> teeu334 I am having no such luck with scanning
[21:24] <teeu334> {alejandro}: so you tried that command already?
[21:24] <{alejandro}> teeu334 the response is wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[21:24] <dorito> computer13137 sorry mate no clue then
[21:25] <teeu334> {alejandro}: try   sudo ifconfig wlan0 up   first
[21:25] <{alejandro}> ok
[21:25] <guesswho> ok no answer to the ssh question.. how about this one.. how come i can not download ubuntu updates anymore, it gives me a fetch error
[21:25] <guesswho> if my system hacked?
[21:26] <{alejandro}> teeu334 it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device"
[21:26] <teeu334> {alejandro}: it's wlan0 not wlanO
[21:26] <k31to> can someone please tell me the chmod settings for rwxr--r--?
[21:26] <{alejandro}> right dur
[21:27] <{alejandro}> wait is the command sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[21:27] <rambo3> k31to, use chmod calculator
[21:27] <k31to> i'm trying sudo chmod -R 0744 /file/path
[21:27] <gaintsura> k31to: thats um, 733?
[21:27] <teeu334> {alejandro}: yes
[21:27] <{alejandro}> yeah same response again
[21:27] <k31to> gaintsura: you sure? ;)
[21:27] <k31to> rambo3: whats that?
[21:27] <gaintsura> I'm pretty close to sure k31to
[21:27] <k31to> gaintsura: thanks
[21:28]  * k31to dons his hat
[21:28] <chao1> Proactive Virus Scanner? I need one that will always scan the running processes and maybe even the files being downloaded and usb drives connected.
[21:28] <teeu334> {alejandro}: try iwconfig without parameters. any wireless interfaces listed?
[21:28] <k31to> rambo3: whats this chmod calc then?
[21:28] <WDC> Hey what is the best client for Bittorrent downloads? Transmission isn't my favorite.
[21:28] <hateball> WDC: Try Deluge
[21:28] <chao1> I need it to do this without me having to tell it to.
[21:28] <{alejandro}> teeu334 the only interface with wireless extensions is wlan0
[21:28] <{alejandro}> i'll pasteboard the output
[21:29] <chao1> WDC: try azureus
[21:29] <Daze1> how do i rate a song in amarok
[21:29]  * WDC tries Deluge. Thanks Hateball
[21:29] <chao1> spelling maybe wrong
[21:29] <teeu334> {alejandro}: but then sudo ifconfig wlan0 up   must work
[21:29] <Daze1> like it just played a crappy song in amarok, so i wanna tell it that song is crap
[21:29] <WDC> chao1: I have heard good things, but Java doesn't work here
[21:29] <computer13137> By the way, I figured out how to do it.
[21:29] <Daze1> i checked use rating in the options
[21:29] <``Cube> what do you think of that? http://cubestuff.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/tokbox-goes-tango/ it's for ubuntu
[21:29] <Daze1> but i dont see the option to actually rate it
[21:29] <k31to> rambo3: thanks anyway, found it ;)
[21:29] <computer13137> u USER -c "vncserver :SCREEN"
[21:29] <``Cube> for pidgin in particular
[21:29] <salto_> Hello, I am having a problem with packet gnome-desktop-enviroment: The packet is not installable because gnome-keyring-manager is newer than the one that is to be installed. What I can do?
[21:29]  * chao1 says to get medibuntu repository
[21:29] <{alejandro}> teeu334 http://paste.ubuntu.com/38906/
[21:29] <dkulchenko> why is one of my drives hd0 at boot, but sdb while running (i mean a 1st drive at boot, but a second drive while running) this is preventing me from installing grub properly
[21:29] <WDC> hmmm
[21:29] <WDC> okay I will try both thanks
[21:30] <gaintsura> k31to: what was it?
[21:30] <{alejandro}> teeu334 and I still get SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device on ifconfig
[21:30] <k31to> gaintsura: 744?!
[21:30] <wasabi> So I'm trying to install Ubntu on a specific server. It's failing.  Read errors from teh CD. It is not corrupt. I'm quite confident it's a driver problem of some sort.
[21:30] <Daze1> How do you rate a song in Amarok?
[21:30] <wasabi> I had it happen with another server, but for the life of me I acn't remember how i fixed it.
[21:30] <gaintsura> k31to: hmm *ponders 733*
[21:30] <teeu334> {alejandro}: please pastebin   dmesg | tail
[21:31] <Legendario> hi, could anyone help me to make my microphone work? I can hear it on the speakers, but i can't use to record a sound o talk on skype...
[21:31] <k31to> now on to my next question, why after running sudo chmod -R 0744 /file/path does /file/path return "permission denied" after ls -l        ????!!!!
[21:31] <CITguy> anybody know how to get a tri-boot to work with WinServer 2003, Ubuntu, and Fedora Core 2 (don't ask)
[21:31]  * chao1 says that salto needs to install gnome-core package
[21:31] <k31to> gaintsura: no worries, I'm more worried about why I can't access the folder after running 744
[21:31] <Daze1> How do you rate a song in Amarok?
[21:31]  * salto_ did do so.
[21:31] <dkulchenko> CITguy: install winserver 2003, then Fedora, then Ubuntu
[21:31] <gaintsura> k31to: probably because you are not the owner
[21:32] <chao1> salto whats wrong
[21:32] <{alejandro}> teeu334 http://paste.ubuntu.com/38907/
[21:32] <{alejandro}> teeu334 That bit about Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch looks ominous
[21:32] <CITguy> dkulchenko: the problem is that grub only sees Windows and Ubuntu
[21:32] <teeu334> {alejandro}: [ 2150.235612] iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch
[21:32] <dkulchenko> Dazel: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/books/ubuntu_applications/amarok
[21:32] <Daze1> thanks
[21:32] <salto_> I do no know. The reason why I am asking is my Main Menu is missing :(
[21:32] <teeu334> {alejandro}: you must find the rf kill switch on your notebook
[21:32] <dkulchenko> CITguy: please explain...
[21:33] <k31to> gaintsura: you are indeed correct... but why then does it return the results of ls -l when the folder is set to 755 ?
[21:33] <{alejandro}> teeu334 yeah thanks for the help
[21:33] <gaintsura> because you have 'proper access' to see it
[21:33] <infz_> How can I make the Alternate Installation CD to work from USB? I want to install Ubuntu on a LVM
[21:33] <Daze1> Sweet
[21:33] <Blaenk> hey guys, my friend is looking for a nautilus script which he can use to right click on a folder with multi-rared files and click extract all to extract them all, is this possible?
[21:33] <Daze1> the rating column should open by default
[21:33] <k31to> gaintsura: is 755 a safe setting for a nas share then?
[21:33] <k31to> gaintsura: for *most* files
[21:34] <Otacon22> uff: the bluetooth wireless of ubuntu 8.04 is bugged!
[21:34] <gaintsura> k31to: how well do you trust the users?
[21:34] <Otacon22> when they will fix that?!
[21:34] <gaintsura> rather, how well should they be trusted
[21:34] <marcules> Good Evening ^^
[21:34] <WDC> Okay, when I click Computer I get this:
[21:34] <WDC> Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations.
[21:34] <k31to> gaintsura: exactly...  surely adding executable rights to text files, movies and music isn't so bad? (right!)
[21:34] <dkulchenko> why is one of my drives hd0 at boot, but sdb while running (i mean a 1st drive at boot, but a second drive while running) this is preventing me from installing grub properly
[21:35] <salto_> I want to install gnome-desktop-enviroment, but Synaptic tells me that gnome-desktop-environment depends on gnome-keyring-manager (>=2.20.0) but it is not installable
[21:35] <CITguy> dkulchenko: my friend is trying to tri-boot his server with winserver 2003, Dedora Core 2 and also (x)ubuntu 8.04. We installed in the order of winserver 2003, fedora, and (x)ubuntu. The problem we ran into is that he can boot into Winserver 2003 and (x)ubuntu but not Fedora
[21:35] <gaintsura> k31to: no, as long as they are not/do not have the ability of effecting the system
[21:36] <k31to> gaintsura: no ts is only a samba share of music and movies
[21:36] <WDC> Okay, when I click Computer I get this:
[21:36] <WDC> Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations.
[21:36] <k31to> gaintsura: thanks for the help , appreciate it
[21:37] <dkulchenko> CITguy: is Fedora in the grub list?
[21:37] <CITguy> dkulchenko: no, but Fedora IS installed
[21:37] <Legendario> hi, could anyone help me to make my microphone work? I can hear it on the speakers, but i can't use to record a sound o talk on skype...
[21:38] <salto_> gnome-keyring is numbered with v2.22.2
[21:38] <dkulchenko> CITguy: operating systems don't just add themselves to the list. you have to add them to grub, and then reinstall grub
[21:38] <speener> how can i allow multiple apps to use sound?
[21:38] <administrator> ad
[21:38] <mgolisch> speener: use pulse or configure alsa to use dmix
[21:38] <gaintsura> k31to: np ^_^
[21:38] <WDC> Hey yall, I cannot access "computer" it says this: Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations.
[21:38] <dkulchenko> CITguy: GRUB has no knowledge of what OSes are installed on your computer. it just has references to parts of the disk to use to boot
[21:38] <administrator> i dont know
[21:39] <mgolisch> speener: i think dmix got deactivated in favor for rolling out all common apps with pulseaudio support
[21:39] <bobishh> car-bo-fos ska!
[21:39] <administrator> /home/administrator/Bureau/Telechargement mozilla/wallpaper.jpg
[21:39] <Denise> is it good anyway if i bought a book who talk more about redhat ?
[21:39] <pmax08> Hi!  I just installed Ubuntu 8.04.01 (32bit) on Intel.  The install appeared to go ok, following the reboot I can't login in normally.  It takes the password, gives me the sign-in music, but after a brief black screen, I get returned to the login box.  I have to use GNOME failsafe.  Any pointers please?
[21:39] <sa8r> hi
[21:40] <speener> mgolisch: so should i go with pulse then?
[21:40] <brahmana> Does anyone know when can possibly mercurial 1.0 packages be available for hardy heron?
[21:40] <salto_> No one any idea why I can not install the packet gnome-desktop-enviroment?
[21:40] <mgolisch> speener: yeah, atleast i never had problems with pulseaudio
[21:41] <speener> ok...i'll try it out...
[21:41]  * CITguy is trying to use the Fedora Core 2 installer to fix it
[21:41] <mgolisch> salto_: whats the error?
[21:41] <bobishh> pmax08, somethinfg wrong with your xorg.conf
[21:41] <squiddy> with installing intel wireless driver. here ?
[21:41] <mgolisch> salto_: if you want the complete gnome desktop maybe install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[21:42] <squiddy> need help with installing intel wireless driver, here ?
[21:42] <speener> mgolisch: will i be using pulse instead of alsa or is it a plugin or add-on of some sort?
[21:42] <salto_> mgolisch: I did so.
[21:42] <sjoerd>  /window 30
[21:42] <WDC> Hey, I cannot open computer. What is that about? It says: Nautilus cannot handle computer: locations.
[21:42] <teeu334> squiddy: intel wireless drivers are part of the mainline kernel since 8.04. you don't install them.
[21:42] <mgolisch> speener: you do have ubuntu right? unless you reconfigured your apps to use alsa explictly they should have been configured to use ulseaudio i think
[21:43] <salto_> My problem: I need to install gnome-dektop-enviroment, but gnome-keyring is newr than the version to be installed.
[21:43] <squiddy> teeu334, but, there is no option for wireless network on network manager ?
[21:43] <gaintsura> salto_: easy, uninstall gnome-keyring and then go through gnome-desktop-env
[21:43] <teeu334> squiddy: and you are sure your wireless chipset is intel?
[21:44] <salto_> gaintsura, even the dependencys of keyring?
[21:44] <gaintsura> no
[21:44] <gaintsura> just the keyring
[21:44] <squiddy> teeu334, yes. it's my friend laptop, when i lshw -C network, it says intel pro wireless
[21:45] <Legendario> hi, could anyone help me to make my microphone work? I can hear it on the speakers, but i can't use to record a sound o talk on skype...
[21:45] <RandyboY> I have an Acer Aspire 7720Z here with a fresh Ubuntu(latest) install. The only nic that works is cabled network. "Hardware Drivers" Proprietary drivers are loaded. One for "Atheros Hardware Layer(HAL)" and one for "Support for Atheros 802,11 wireless LAN cards". But still i cant list my wireless nic. ifconfig -a lists only my cabled (ETH0) an lo (Loopback)... What could be wrong?
[21:45] <teeu334> squiddy: which one exactly?
[21:45] <hb> is it possible to force the kernel (from a live cd) to detect pata drives as hda and hdb or is that impossible now?
[21:45] <Gnea> Legendario: did you turn your soft mix on?
[21:45] <WDC> Okay, I have a Ubuntu bug, can anyone help me with it?
[21:46] <Gnea> WDC: bug #?
[21:46] <WDC> one sec
[21:46] <gaintsura> RandyboY:  hold on 1 sec, let me find the article
[21:46] <squiddy> teeu334, i can't remember, laptop is on another place. but only i can remember, it was like intel PRO BG wireless
[21:46] <Legendario> Gnea, i guess so...
[21:46] <RandyboY> gaintsura, great
[21:46] <teeu334> squiddy: and which ubuntu version?
[21:46] <WDC> Gnea: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/233889
[21:46] <salto_> Where do I get gnome-keyring-manager?
[21:46] <squiddy> teeu334, ubuntu 8.04
[21:46] <WDC> Don't know why it is low importance, I can't open Desktop, Network, trashcan etc
[21:47] <squiddy> teeu334, oops sorry, ubuntu 8.04.1
[21:47] <gaintsura> RandyboY: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-ar5007-wireless-with-madwifi-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html follow that to the T and you'll be fine
[21:47] <Gnea> Legendario: hrm... right-click on the volume/speaker thingy on the upper-right of your desktop, open the volume control, go to switches tab
[21:47] <Gnea> WDC: because you can still ctrl-alt-f1... sec, reading
[21:47] <RandyboY> gaintsura, great, thanks! :-)
[21:47] <teeu334> squiddy: then you already have intel wireless drivers installed. i guess it is just a hardware rf kill switch, disabling the antenna.
[21:48] <iarwain1> Hi!
[21:48] <gaintsura> np RandyboY
[21:48] <teeu334> squiddy: further debugging is not possible without testing some commands on the notebook
[21:48] <squiddy> teeu334, how could i re-enable the device, please ? fn key's not working
[21:48] <yotsu> Hi I 'm trying to file-share between vista and ubuntu but I can't see the files on vista from ubuntu, I figured out the samba for ubuntu and thats fine but I still can't see the vista files in Ubuntu could someone help me please?
[21:48] <teeu334> squiddy: i don't know. this is highly notebook specific.
[21:48] <WDC> Gnea: WOW! that was cooll
[21:49] <iarwain1> So, i heard vim is the better editor out there, but i don't really know *why* people say that. Could anyone explain?
[21:49] <squiddy> teeu334, ok, i guess i'll come back when i have the laptop.. thanks anyway
[21:49] <teeu334> squiddy: good notebooks have a hardware switch for that, not needing any software support for it.
[21:50] <frostbyt3> need help getting internet access
[21:50] <teeu334> squiddy: in cheap notebooks the rf kill switch just produces a ACPI hotkey event which must be handled by the OS
[21:50] <Legendario> Gnea, ok, done
[21:50] <hb> I'll take that as a no
[21:50] <hb> :(
[21:50] <hb> udev is teh suck
[21:50] <mado> oy guys - hi there - i want to send some files and folders from my computer to another computer in the network - i use kubuntu linux 8.04 and the two other computers use (the first) 7.10 and (the second) 8.04
[21:51] <squiddy> teeu334, i guess so, i'll ask my friend wether his laptop has any switch for that or not,,, i'm not really familiar with toshiba laptops
[21:51] <mado> all three computers are connected to a router
[21:51] <teeu334> squiddy: me neither. i use thinkpads.
[21:51] <Gnea> Legendario: what options do you have there?
[21:51] <frostbyt3> Can someone help me connect using my wi-fi card
[21:51] <regeya> hb: a lot of things are these days
[21:51] <squiddy> teeu334, ok thanks. c ya :)
[21:51] <Gnea> !wifi | frostbyt3
[21:51] <siloko> do I stop USB harddrives from being automounted when I plug themin?
[21:52] <speener> hmmm
[21:52] <frostbyt3> yeah I've been there
[21:52] <hb> I just wish the ubuntu guru's thought about what udev might break before they just threw it out there
[21:52] <Gnea> Legendario: please keep it to the channel :)
[21:52] <hb> pata and sata drives are fubar no
[21:52] <mado-kar> *waiting* (not impatient)
[21:52] <hb> s/no/now
[21:52] <speener> can't use skype while playing amarok
[21:52] <Gnea> hb: they work fine here
[21:52] <Syngin> siloko,  edit /etc/fstab i think
[21:53] <yotsu> so should I lurk in the forums more than?
[21:53] <hb> you can get them to work but the old system was better on boards that didn't follow stanrds.  now the bios grub and the kernel all fight over who should be /sda.
[21:53] <siloko> Syngin: I thought that was just for mounts at boot
[21:53] <frostbyt3> can someone help me to connect?
[21:53] <teeu334> frostbyt3: which wireless chipset?
[21:53] <Gnea> !ask | frostbyt3
[21:53] <hb> standards, excuse me
[21:53] <frostbyt3> broadcom
[21:53] <siloko> Syngin: Mine has no mention of external drives, just my local partitions
[21:54] <Legendario> Gnea, sometimes its hard to follow this kind of things on the channel...
[21:54] <teeu334> frostbyt3: sorry, not familiar with broadcom. intel only here.
[21:54] <frostbyt3> apparently there is some command i can type in to give you more information but i dont know it
[21:54] <Syngin> agreed Legendario
[21:54] <Legendario> Gnea: i will try to translate for you:
[21:54] <Gnea> hb: i don't know what you mean. nowadays, ubuntu doesn't care what the /dev is, since the UUID always remains the same
[21:54] <siloko> Syngin: it really annoys me - I have a large external hd with multiple partitions and every time I plug it in I get a shower of gnome file managers pissing all over my screen!!!
[21:54] <frostbyt3> it's gotta be the same to connect
[21:54] <Syngin> lol, siloko
[21:55] <hb> Gnea: that's only true when grub and the bios agree what hd(0,0)
[21:55] <Syngin> i'll think of something
[21:55] <teeu334> frostbyt3: you can try  iwconfig   in a terminal to see if the card is recognized at all. should appear as wlan0 if you have ubuntu 8.04
[21:55] <mado-kar> can anyone help me?
[21:55] <hb> gnea: are*
[21:55] <Gnea> hb: so just get it working and edit the menu.lst
[21:55] <captainm> !ask | mado-kar
[21:55] <tekuin> hi everyone
[21:55] <tekuin> hepinizin amina koyabilin?
[21:55] <siloko> Syngin: there used to be a preferences option - but Canonical, in their wisdom, trashed it a couple of versions back . . .
[21:56] <tekuin> nazli yarim hebelek olmus pardus
[21:56] <hb> gnea: like I said before you can get it to work, but it seriously detracts from what ubuntu meant to me when I first used it. "Will work on any system any config" now it's "will work on any system with some work"
[21:56] <Syngin> oh ye
[21:56] <s3a> i have a 250 gb external hd with 9.2 gb free, i just wanted to know is it possible to turn it from ntfs to ext3 without losing my data in the same way u can resize partitions without losing data?
[21:56] <siloko> Syngin: but it must have been a front to some file somewhere - just don't know what it is :(
[21:56] <Slart> s3a: I don't think you can
[21:56] <captainm> s3a: sadly, that's not possible
[21:56] <Slart> s3a: not without wiping the partition
[21:56] <frostbyt3> teeu334: it is recognized
[21:56] <Legendario> master, 3d control switch, PCM, PCM capture, Entrance, Entrance Capture, CD, Microphone, MIcrophone Capture, Mic-boost, mic-boost capture, mic-in mode, pc speakers
[21:56] <pogay> How can I create a exim mininal user  (user only for mailbox)?  are there some tools arround cmdline.
[21:56] <Syngin> siloko,  was is removable drives and media
[21:56] <tekuin> zubuntu diye osursa
[21:56] <Legendario> Gnea: master, 3d control switch, PCM, PCM capture, Entrance, Entrance Capture, CD, Microphone, MIcrophone Capture, Mic-boost, mic-boost capture, mic-in mode, pc speakers
[21:56] <tekuin> nazli yar
[21:56] <mado-kar> i already wrote my question some lines above
[21:56] <frostbyt3> but it says access point not associated
[21:57] <siloko> Syngin: yes - but the HD option is longer there
[21:57] <tekuin> hepinizin amina koyabilin?
[21:57] <Slart> !turkey | tekuin
[21:57] <Gnea> brb
[21:57] <hb> gnea: for example if your trying to install ubuntu on a bunch of donated PC's for a school.  things are never the same
[21:57] <gpled> i have a cdiso that i would like to add a file to (free dos live cd)  any docs on how to do this?  or can someone assist me.  would like to have the iso be able to burn a cd with the added file, when im done.
[21:57] <s3a> Slart: captain: should i put that in brainstorm?
[21:57] <Syngin> ahh, ok
[21:57] <tekuin> Slart
[21:57] <teeu334> frostbyt3: what kind of encryption is used in your wifi network?
[21:57] <frostbyt3> WEP
[21:57] <frostbyt3> 16 bit
[21:57] <tekuin> shott baba , birak ozgur kalayim
[21:57] <Slart> s3a: captain? .. well.. no, it's not a bug.. it's just the way ntfs and ext3 are
[21:57] <teeu334> frostbyt3: 16 bit WEP does not exist
[21:58] <hb> frostbyte, i'll be over in a sec, do you have a fast inet connect? ^^
[21:58] <frostbyt3> yeah
[21:58] <Syngin> siloko, have you checked on ubuntuforums
[21:58] <s3a> Slart: captainm is another person here
[21:58] <hb> >:)
[21:58] <Slart> s3a: you can't convert ntfs to ext3 in place, you can't eat candy all day, you cant fly by flapping your arms.. some things aren't meant to be =)
[21:58] <siloko> Syngin: There's an old post - I'll look again - thanks anyway
[21:58] <s3a> Slart: and not as a bug report, as an idea, like couldnt it be a nice feature request or is it absolutely impossible?
[21:58] <teeu334> frostbyt3: WEP has 64 bit and 128 bit key length. both is considered insecure. use WPA instead.
[21:59] <hb> slart, you can run ntfs inside ext can't you?
[21:59] <frostbyt3> WEP 64 sorry
[21:59] <Slart> s3a: I would say it's impossible.. it might be doable but it isn't worth the time and effort
[21:59] <Legendario> sudo aptitude install gparted
[21:59] <frostbyt3> can't i just use what i got for now instead of changing all my machines
[21:59] <Slart> hb: not that I know of.. they are both file systems
[22:00] <s3a> Slart: well if u ask me, its worth it cuz such a feature is good to convert windows users ;) but thats not my situation
[22:00] <WDC> Hey I am getting "Compression Error 99" when trying to extract a .zip. How can I get a .zip?
[22:00] <Slart> hb: linux can read and write both ntfs and ext3 if that's what you mean
[22:01] <captainm> frostbyt3: sure you can.
[22:01] <qr_>  WDC what program are you using to extract?
[22:01] <frostbyt3> all i need to do is connect, but cant
[22:01] <teeu334> frostbyt3: it seems WEP is not very well supported by newer drivers, or network manager has a bug when configuring it
[22:01] <hb> Slart, negative.  I'm trying to think back to an article I read awhile ago.  but I'm thinking of something else
[22:01] <WDC> qr_: Archive manager
[22:02] <hb> but I think* I'm thinking of something else
[22:02] <Slart> s3a: well.. let's say this will take 400 man years... that time would be better spent on other things.. making directx games run natively in ubuntu, drivers for all graphics cards, booting in <10 secs.. all that.. or convert ntfs to ext3 in place..
[22:02] <teeu334> frostbyt3: but you should *really* switch from WEP to WPA, especially if you have only 64 bit WEP
[22:02] <siloko> Are wildcards allowed in fstab (e.g /dev/sdb*) ?
[22:02] <qr_> WDC: try installing unzip and then do 'unzip yourfile.zip' in the terminal.
[22:02] <j^2> im' having a hellva time trying to get my dell d620 laptop's soundcard working; i'm thinking a permissions problem, can some one be my sounding board?
[22:02] <teeu334> frostbyt3: 64 bit WEP can be cracked in a few minutes
[22:02] <WDC> qr_: Will try, is that in Symantic?
[22:02] <Slart> siloko: I don't think so
[22:02] <qr_> WDC: yes
[22:03] <WDC> qr_: Synaptic, sorry. Cool thanks
[22:03] <siloko> Syngin: you were right - I have to add entries to potential device names and stop thembeing mounted with the 'noauto' flag . . .
[22:03] <salto_> Ok, I am back. When I want to uninstall gnome-keyring, synaptic wants to deinstall many other programs such as gksu. The packet in question is gnome-keyring-manager (N.b. the manager extension)
[22:03] <hb> siloko: I doubt it.  that would lead to more than 1 partition to a single mount path
[22:03] <Slart> siloko: how would that work anyway.. mount a partition on sda1, sda2, sda3, sda4 .... , sda997315
[22:03] <frostbyt3> how can I switch it
[22:03] <friendlybrain> hello I have a Linksys WUSB11 v2.8 wireless adapter it can detect networks out of the box but I don't think I can connect can someone hlep??
[22:03] <frostbyt3> believe me no one is cracking my connection im in the middle of no where
[22:03] <teeu334> frostbyt3: you must configure your wireless AP to do WPA.
[22:03] <siloko> Syngin: I wnated to do /dev/sdb* mountpoint NONE with nosuto option
[22:04] <siloko> *noauto*
[22:04] <Legendario> Gnea: so... anything????
[22:04] <teeu334> frostbyt3: and of course change the wireless setup of your client machines to WPA too
[22:04] <siloko> but I suppose I have to enter them one by one :)
[22:04] <Slart> siloko: eh.. if you don't want to mount it.. why include it in the fstab?
[22:04] <hb> siloko: try /dev/sdb[x,y] noauto
[22:04] <siloko> Slart: to stop it being automounted when i plug it in
[22:04] <friendlybrain> can any1 help?
[22:04] <WDC> qr_: I get this: skipping: <my_file>  unsupported compression method 99
[22:04] <hb> siloko: doubt it will work but
[22:04] <Slart> siloko: aahhh.. I get it..
[22:05] <siloko> hb: thanks