[00:00] <kkathman> Fougner,  ahh ok gotta find that source then I guess
[00:00] <GodfatherofEire2> Fougner, no prob, but thanks for helpin out too.
[00:00] <gaby> has anyone got system sounds with compiz fusion?
[00:00] <Fougner> Werenerd: many people are, please ask your question =)
[00:00] <Ademan> whoa, i didn't realize Azureus had a linux port
[00:00] <zsquareplusc> Werenerd: ok, and your real question is? :-)
[00:00] <Kanzar> haha
[00:00] <Kanzar> azureus is java - multi platform
[00:00] <Fougner> kkathman: exactley.. google is your friend
[00:00] <Kanzar> whoops, cross platform
[00:00] <Ademan> Kanzar: you don't happen to have firestarter running do you?
[00:00] <andycaz> After i upgraded to 8.10, ive lost lirc ir dev from /dev/input/event* any ideas?
[00:00] <Kanzar> it is running
[00:00] <Kanzar> no blocked connections, but the utorrent site check says the port is open, it's just azureus's check which is failing
[00:01] <GodfatherofEire2> Havin a little trouble under synaptic, package messed up, and now I cant re-install, purge, or remove it, any ideas?
[00:01] <DeVnOrE> sry should be www-data
[00:01] <Werenerd> My question is how do I do that? I have a DynDNS address that I use for FTP, do I just change my address to ssh://blah blah ?
[00:01] <Ademan> Kanzar: well, java is cross platform, but certain things arent (for instance file paths are *totally* different across platforms)
[00:01] <Kanzar> heh
[00:01] <hmw> Which driver was probably installed, before i somehow activated the propriary driver? i still have clone mode (i want the second screen black again) and 3d wont work
[00:01] <luigi> DeVnOrE, chown: group not valid: 'luigi:www'
[00:01] <Kanzar> well, i'll just try some torrents, see if it goes green
[00:01] <Ademan> anywho, that's wierd, yeah definitely just try and see what happens
[00:01] <strN00B> What is recommended disk space (partitioned ext3) to install and run Ubuntu 8.10?
[00:01] <Fougner> Werenerd: what program do you use to ssh? =)
[00:01] <jafobuntu> hi! is there a fix for the window title bar nvidia glitch yet?
[00:02] <Werenerd> Fougner: so far all I have used is the Konsole
[00:02] <powertool08> Werenerd: I use openssh, forward the ports on my router and use ssh user@host or putty if I'm on windows
[00:02] <akorpija> anybody know how to make it so that when i move my windows, they go transparent??
[00:02] <Ademan> jafobuntu: i'm totally unfamiliar with that glitch, are you using compiz?
[00:02] <Fougner> Werenerd: as powertool08 said, in the terminal "ssh username@host"
[00:02] <Werenerd> powertool08: what ports should I use?
[00:03] <DeVnOrE> luigi: luigi:www-data
[00:03] <Fougner> Werenerd: don't forget to forward the port through the router
[00:03] <metbsd> how do i install compiz?
[00:03] <Fougner> Werenerd: SSH is port 22 by default
[00:03] <DARKreaction> compile it
[00:03] <Werenerd> Fougner: powertool08 .... really? That is all there to it?
[00:03] <powertool08> Werenerd: typically ssh runs on port 22 but you can set it to whatever you wish, I recommend changing it, keeps the auto attacks away
[00:03] <Fougner> metbsd: sudo apt-get install compiz ? =D
[00:03] <Werenerd> powertool08: good idea
[00:03] <DARKreaction> ello everyone
[00:03] <luigi> DeVnOrE, maybe with sudo??
[00:03] <hmw> akorpija: go to compiz settings, module "Move window", set Opacity to e.g. 50%
[00:04] <DeVnOrE> sure
[00:04] <gaby> hello everyone, i am pretty new to linux and i want to know if and how can i enable system sounds with compiz fusion?ive tried many versions of linux and in none sys sound with compiz wont work!anyone have ideas?
[00:04] <akorpija> hmw wow im dumb thanks bud
[00:04] <Ademan> strN00B: ubuntu itself takes up around 3 GB (+ or - some) so if you're just trying things out, maybe 20gb would be enough (you could probably make do with even less, but I really don't recommend it) and then you want a swap partition, i use 4gb but that's horribly overkill
[00:04] <metbsd> ok i already have compiz installed, but how to run it?
[00:04] <GodfatherofEire2> How would one go about getting rid of a corrupted synaptic package
[00:04] <Petein> Hi. just a question to make. any good E-R schema designing applications for linux?
[00:04] <Werenerd> gaby: are you saying that if you turn off compiz your sounds work?
[00:04] <jafobuntu> Ademan, im doing an install for someone else, im using the livecd and enabled vnvidia driver, desktop effects enabled by default, titlebar not always rendered properly looks really bad
[00:04] <m1r> Petein: dia
[00:04] <powertool08> Werenerd: pretty much, you can configure some stuff like public key authentication and other options
[00:05] <DARKreaction> go into system>pref>apperiences>desktop effects
[00:05] <darkdeeper> metbsd, you have to install compiz manager to configure stuff.
[00:05] <Ademan> metbsd: system->preferences->appearance   then select visual effects and "normal" or "extra"
[00:05] <zetheroo> why is it that when newer Ubuntu releases come out that they present a whole new batch of issues which were not prevalent in the prior release?
[00:05] <powertool08> Werenerd: and make sure not to use protocol 1, its unsecure
[00:05] <gaby> yes werner
[00:05] <kitche> zetheroo: same reason Windows has the same issue really
[00:05] <zetheroo> kitche: which is?
[00:06] <Werenerd> powertool08: how do you make these configuration changes? CLI or is there a GUI tool you recommend? I am cool with text editing so that doesn't bother me
[00:06] <Ademan> jafobuntu: wierd, I've never dealt with that, but then again i tend to avoid compiz, are desktop effects a dealbreaker? because things should be fine with them off...
[00:06] <kitche> zetheroo: that it's a new operating system version and does have bugs?
[00:06] <Fougner> GodfatherofEire2: I'd try using apt-get -f install
[00:06] <powertool08> Werenerd: you change a text file, editing the file can be done cli or gui
[00:07] <luigi> DeVnOrE, maybe!!! see this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/75463/
[00:07] <zetheroo> kitche: another question ... why is it that whenever a question is posed in regards to Linux that is slightly critical that the answer usually contains a comparative picture to Windows?
[00:07] <zsquareplusc> powertool08: lol
[00:07] <Ademan> jafobuntu: by the way, there's a channel here #nvidia maybe they've heard of your problem/can help better
[00:07] <powertool08> Werenerd: I also suggest disallowing root logins
[00:07] <kitche> zetheroo: no clue but my anwser is actually the real answer considering that most of the big distros do have issues on new releases
[00:07] <Guest66062> hey whats the command to renew my ip...I had dhcp set but I changed it to static...how do I renew my ip now?
[00:08] <sourcemaker> is there wiki for virtualbox and host only network?
[00:08] <GodfatherofEire2> Fougner, didn't do it
[00:08] <kitche> zetheroo: that's why some advance users actually wait a few weeks to upgrade
[00:08] <Werenerd> powertool08: my ultimate goal is to show my uncle some stuff that I do on Linux (X forwarding ssh is awesome) that he cannot do on WIndows
[00:08] <sourcemaker> !virtualbox
[00:08] <DeVnOrE> luigi: something is wrong with the config
[00:08] <jafobuntu> Ademan, yes thanks
[00:08] <Fougner> GodfatherofEire2: hmm
[00:08] <zetheroo> kitche: I did wait a couple weeks ... but have issues with the most basic things
[00:08] <Petein> m1r:  does this DIA creates the sql code as mysql workbench does?
[00:08] <powertool08> Werenerd: x forwarding can be painfully slow, but once you get ssh going then check out running a vnc client over a ssh tunnel
[00:09] <GodfatherofEire2> Fougner: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1", that's what I get.
[00:09] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ok... just << on ehte first line.. changed!!!
[00:09] <luigi> but same problem...
[00:09] <kitche> zetheroo: like what I do know some sound issues could be from pulseaudio if your having issues with sound
[00:09] <Guest66062> hey whats the command to renew my ip...I had dhcp set but I changed it to static...how do I renew my ip now?
[00:09] <Fougner> GodfatherofEire2: okay, horrible. Do you know what packages are involved?
[00:09] <zetheroo> kitche: its come to the point where updating to the latest release is now pointless for me .. and for the majority of Ubuntu basic users
[00:09] <hmw> Guest57561: dhclient or dhclient 1
[00:09] <Fougner> Guest66062: try restarting you network =)
[00:09] <zetheroo> kitche: my issues are with Wireless, Sound and Printing
[00:09] <m1r> Petein: sry i thoughtu mean electronic scheme
[00:09] <GodfatherofEire2> Fougner: Yep, there's only 1 package.
[00:10] <GodfatherofEire2> I know exactly which one it is
[00:10] <Fougner> GodfatherofEire2: which one?
[00:10] <linny> http://pastebin.com/d5305958c could anyone advise me with this
[00:10] <zetheroo> kitche: its getting worse with each new release.. not better
[00:10] <hmw> Guest57561 /etc/init.d/network restart works the best for me
[00:10] <Guest66062> fougner: unplugging my router?
[00:10] <DeVnOrE> luigi: check if it
[00:10] <Scunizi> zetheroo: updating can solve a lot of those issues over time.. for me it was a motherboard compatibility problem that Ibex mostly solved.
[00:10] <Fougner> Guest66062: no, on your linuxmachine.. sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[00:10] <kitche> zetheroo: well sound issues could be from pulseaudio and wireless could be kernel problems and printing depends on the printer but I do know pulse audio is not the best of sound servers
[00:10] <GodfatherofEire2> Fougner: ttf-mathematica4.1
[00:10] <DeVnOrE> scheck if it's wwwebserver or wwwserver in the conf
[00:10] <unlink> wonderful. compiling the driver from source doesn't work either. now i have no idea what i should be doing for this wireless.
[00:11] <fredroth> bon comment ca margche
[00:11] <Awa> Hello everyone - Anyone know how to fix a bad synaptic - Or wichever causes any update/installation/uninstallation to tell me to write 'dpkg --configure -a' Wich doesnt work even with sudo - Thanks.
[00:11] <Scunizi> !fr | fredroth
[00:11] <Fougner> unlink: have you tried the wireless 2.6 kerneltree? =D
[00:11] <m1r> zetheroo: thats why you have live-cd to check if your system works before installing
[00:11] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ok... but the problem isn't solved: FOBIDDEN you don't have permission....
[00:11] <zetheroo> kitche: with Gutsy everything worked ... with Hardy the microphone went completely .... with Intrepid Printing, Mic and Wifi are up the creek
[00:11] <unlink> Fougner: what do you mean
[00:12] <kitche> zetheroo: mainly for wireless I tend to stay away from the linux kernel really just because the drivers are not always the best besides the ones that are official
[00:12] <Fougner> unlink: I posted a link here bfore
[00:12] <zetheroo> kitche: and I am not just talking about one machine ... its happening on quiet a few
[00:12] <DeVnOrE> sudo chmod a+r /home/luigi/wwwebserver
[00:12] <brezzz> Hi, I installed a dir on my system, and I'm unable to rebmember where
[00:12] <crazycabbie> yeah Gutsy was great, then after i updated to hardy i went back to Windows because ironically, that just worked
[00:12] <brezzz> how do a search for a dir?
[00:12] <kitche> zetheroo: yes probably due to the kernel you could try and older kernel really
[00:13] <Fougner> unlink:  http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download that's where I got my wireless working =)
[00:13] <luigi> DeVnOrE, you could see: http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:13] <zetheroo> kitche: well trying an older kernel also makes other things buggy and then I will hear people telling me to upgrade to the newer one ... so its just a vicious cycle.
[00:13] <luigi> DeVnOrE, could i restart the sistem?? maybe....
[00:14] <DeVnOrE> shouldn't be a issue
[00:14] <DeVnOrE> check the errorlog again
[00:14] <zsquareplusc> zetheroo: start filing bugs for broken things on launchpad.net :-)
[00:14] <kitche> zetheroo: myself I rather use an OS anymore then a "hacked" together system hence why I don't use Linux anymore but still help out once in a while but yes file bug reports and help out a bit to make ubuntu a bit better
[00:15] <Awa> Excuse me - Anyone know how I can fix my situation. I can't install/update/remove any applications.
[00:15] <unlink> Fougner: exactly which one do you have?
[00:15] <basso__> anyone know of any nice mind mapping tools?
[00:15] <zetheroo> zsquareplusc: done that and its gone nowhere
[00:15] <unlink> Fougner: i have an ar5424
[00:15] <Spreadsheet> Awa: using what? synaptic?
[00:15] <Spreadsheet> or Add/Remove Applications
[00:15] <zetheroo> kitche: so your back to using Windows?
[00:15] <GodfatherofEire2> Fougner: ttf-mathematica4.1 is the corrupted package
[00:15] <kitche> zetheroo: no I use a BSD
[00:16] <zetheroo> kitche: I see ...
[00:16] <basso__> anyone know of any nice mind mapping tools?
[00:16] <Spreadsheet> people who use BSD are more different than people who use Linux, that's good
[00:16] <Spreadsheet> :-)
[00:16] <Spreadsheet> different > same
[00:16] <Awa> Spreadsheet: none of the works.
[00:16] <DeVnOrE> basso__: googled mind mapping linux?
[00:16] <zetheroo> kitche: liek why is printing simply not working?
[00:16] <GodfatherofEire2> basso__ try Labyrinth Mind Mapping
[00:16] <zetheroo> kitche: was working fine in Hardy
[00:16] <linny> checking for LUA... configure: error: Package requirements (lua >= 5.1) were not met: anyone know what this means ?
[00:17] <basso__> auki doki
[00:17] <Spreadsheet> Awa: do you have the software sources worked out?
[00:17] <zetheroo> kitche: I have the printer installed and can print test pages ... but no program will print anything
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> is there still an issue with intel 4965 chipsets dropping wifi connections?  (WPA Enterprise)
[00:17] <Fougner> unlink: I don't know exactley. how can I tell?
[00:17] <kitche> zetheroo: could be due to cups or the linux kernel but my guess is that programs are not using cups actually if that is what your printer is using
[00:17] <Awa> Spreadsheet: Whenever i try / It tells me>E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:17] <Spreadsheet> hi Daisuke_Ido
[00:17] <Daisuke_Ido> hey Spreadsheet
[00:17] <Fougner> GodfatherofEire2: sorry, I don't know then =(
[00:17] <Spreadsheet> -_-
[00:17] <p4_> man, since installing ibex the usual external USB mount problems have qudrupled
[00:17] <Spreadsheet> when run dpkg --configure -a
[00:18] <ravster> Helo people
[00:18] <linny> Awa: run dpkg --configure -a then :)
[00:18] <Stargazer> A CD came with my wireless router... do i use it or can i secure my network with Ubuntu somehwo ?
[00:18] <Spreadsheet> it looks like dpkg is broken
[00:18] <GodfatherofEire2> Fougner, well, thanks for tryin anyway.
[00:18] <unlink> Fougner: check /var/log/messages
[00:18] <p4_> everytime there's been an upgrade since Feisty there is been some piece of shit problem like this
[00:18] <p4_> Fiesty was the last good release
[00:18] <Awa> Spreadsheet: Ive done it, and tried sudo aswell.
[00:18] <Spreadsheet> hmm
[00:18] <Spreadsheet> that's strange
[00:18] <Spreadsheet> yeah i think his dpkg is broken
[00:18] <Spreadsheet> fix it people!
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> p4_: so submit bug reports and become part of the solution
[00:18] <Spreadsheet> :P
[00:18] <ravster> I need help with a dual-monitor system.  Programs get dragged onto the next workspace, but not to the next monitor.  I use xfce, and was hoping someone could help me.
[00:18] <zetheroo> kitche:  "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart" gives this error "sudo: /etc/init.d/cupsys: command not found"
[00:19] <p4_> Anyhow, does anyone know what this might mean '$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 1).' please
[00:19] <linny> Awa: what was the output when you ran dpkg configure -a ?
[00:19] <Awa> Spreadsheet: gimme a sec /
[00:19] <DeVnOrE> zetheroo: not cupssys just cups
[00:19] <Kanzar> hmm
[00:19] <bit`> Looks like ubuntu's netmanager failed to use my netgear FA310TX (tulip) NIC. Any ideas how to fix it?
[00:20] <Kanzar> i'm back, it says firewalled :(
[00:20] <soapy> in 8.10, I change it from dhcp to manuel static address, but when it restarts it goes back to dhcp automatic everytime...any ideas...dhcp is enabled on router but i would like some to be dhcp and some to be static?
[00:20] <p4_> forget it, i'm going back to hardy
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> p4_: ntfs problem, i can tell that much
[00:20] <zetheroo> DeVnOrE: ok.. thats working .. does it usually take a long time?
[00:20] <darkdeeper> soapy, create a new configuration.dont use the auto eth0 one.
[00:20] <p4_> Thanks Daisuke. I think i'll just go back to Hardy and wait for these problems to resolve themselves I'm not experienced enough I've spent 2 hours on it this morning
[00:20] <DeVnOrE> soapy: i usually stick the static routes in the router as well
[00:20] <p4_> that is far too long
[00:21] <powertool08> ravster: could your monitors be switched? if you drag to the opposite side of the monitor does it move to the secondary?
[00:21] <Awa> Spreadsheet:  Setting up language-support-ja (1:6.06+20060529) ... Then it stalls / wich i at first thought was due to it would need some time. But i tried letting it be for a day with no result.
[00:21] <zetheroo> DeVnOrE: gosh .. its still restarting
[00:21] <DeVnOrE> zetheroo: dunno havn't had any probs with cups (haven't updated my desktop yet)
[00:21] <Werenerd> powertool08: real quick question. If I disable root login and have a VNC session setup, I can still run sudo commands right?
[00:21] <powertool08> ravster: You also might want to be sure that the option to drag to next workspace is disabled until it works right
[00:21] <zetheroo> DeVnOrE: ahhh... smart thing I suppose
[00:21] <Fougner> unlink: sorry, can't see it in there =(
[00:21] <ravster> powertool08: No, if I drag the program window to the other side of the screen it just jumps to the next workspace on that side.
[00:21] <unlink> thanks
[00:22] <Spreadsheet> awa: huh sorry i cant help you, someone else can though
[00:22] <Daisuke_Ido> p4_: actually, from what i've been reading, if you still have windows, run chkdsk /f, then reboot twice...  apparently the twice bit is the important part for some reason
[00:22] <ravster> powertool08: How do I do that?
[00:22] <Spreadsheet> I'm really bad at helping :(
[00:22] <tarelerulz> I am trying to make shortcut  by where it says application , places, system . I want it to be a shortcut to location such are /   , How do I do that . I put in location / and it says that is wrong
[00:22] <DeVnOrE> zetheroo: yepp just upgraded my server and f**ked up my wireless
[00:22] <zetheroo> does anyone know what I can print test pages fine but no other program will print a thing?
[00:22] <p4_> Daisuke, this drive was mounting fine on this computer on Hardy before i upgraded last night.
[00:22] <Awa> Spreadsheet: Ohwell, just glad anyone responded. Thanks anyway!
[00:22] <zetheroo> DeVnOrE: I am haveing Wireless issues too .. Atheros chipset :(
[00:23] <powertool08> Werenerd: yes you can still do sudo
[00:23] <bit`> Does ubuntu have good tulip NIC support? Trying to figure out why 3 different tulip cards are failing...
[00:23] <powertool08> ravster: I'm not sure, I've don't use xfce
[00:23] <DeVnOrE> me to, and i have it set up as a AP
[00:23] <Awa> Anyone know how to fix a broken dpkg?
[00:23] <Daisuke_Ido> Awa: what package is it crashing on?
[00:23] <AskHL> tarelerulz, open your file manager in the desired location, then drag the folder up to the panel
[00:24] <DeVnOrE> Awa: what did it say when you tried to run reconfigure all?
[00:24] <Werenerd> powertool08: thanks.
[00:24] <powertool08> Werenerd: if you're going to do vnc make sure you set a vnc password with the command 'vncpassword' or anybody can connect to your session and have full access to whatever your user does
[00:24] <AskHL> tarelerulz, by file manager I mean nautilus (others might also work)
[00:24] <tarelerulz> AskHL, the location I want it  /   not  directory called root
[00:25] <Phineas> My Ubuntu desktop (Feisty Faun) is a bit overdue for a version up-grade.  I'll upgrade to 8.10 when 8.20 comes out
[00:25] <p4_> good luck with your problems guys
[00:26] <systm> where do i check to see what runs @startup? im trying to add mpd to start @boot
[00:26] <zetheroo> anyone? ... I need printing help
[00:26] <Werenerd> powertool08: you lost me on that last one.  Only accept from local host? Like I have to be in front of the PC?
[00:26] <powertool08> Werenerd: kinda
[00:26] <Phineas> thank you, will check it out
[00:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Awa: just dpkg -r <packagename>
[00:27] <Awa> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks, will try that.
[00:27] <Daisuke_Ido> good luck :D
[00:27] <powertool08> Werenerd: but since you are logged into the machine with the ssh tunnel, it sees the connection as coming from the localhost
[00:27] <AskHL> tarelerulz, okay.  You can make a link to anywhere, then edit the destination (right click on it and change its path).  (This is the wrong way to do it, of course, but dragging the file system icon doesn't work I think)
[00:27] <Werenerd> powertool08: oh. Weird. I did not know that
[00:28] <Werenerd> powertool08: I am going to screw around with it a little bit now
[00:28] <AskHL> tarelerulz, the location should be file:///
[00:28] <zack> hi. in order for skype to work with my webcam, I need to start it with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype. From terminal it works OK, but when I put this as menu command, it does not. How can I modify the application meny entry so it starts it with LD_PRELOAD?
[00:28] <tarelerulz> AskHL , thanks for your help.  It is not that easy to understand.  I would think location would be easy to define  / would cover ,but it turns out it need file /// . How would you find out such . So I don't need to ask
[00:28] <powertool08> Werenerd: good luck :D
[00:29] <AskHL> tarelerulz, which *exact* folder do you want to make a link to?
[00:29] <luigi> DeVnOrE, nothing! webserver don't want to work!
[00:29] <AskHL> tarelerulz, *is* it the file system root, i.e. "/"?
[00:30] <DeVnOrE> luigi: what does the errorlog say?
[00:30] <unlink> gah. going to have to tell the owner that they can't use wifi with linux on this computer :\
[00:30] <unlink> what a colossal waste of time.
[00:30] <gusto5> so anyone else having lack of sound?
[00:30] <Fougner> unlink: you didn't get it to work? =(
[00:30] <Kanzar> ffff
[00:30] <Kanzar> i give up
[00:30] <unlink> Fougner: nope
[00:30] <ghindo> Hi, I'm having difficulty enabling auto-login on my Ubuntu 8.10 laptop.
[00:30] <tarelerulz> AskHL, yes /  is what I want to make link too. I got it  working.  is there doc how the working of  gnome .  If I say wanted to create short cut to /  in Nautilus I could
[00:31] <unlink> Fougner: i tried everything
[00:31] <DeVnOrE> luigi: just pm me the 3 last lines
[00:31] <Fougner> unlink: even the wireless 2.6 kernel patch ? =D
[00:31] <AskHL> tarelerulz, in the Nautilus side bar you can drag the "File System" symbol up there, that'll work too
[00:31] <unlink> even.
[00:31] <otwin> hi - as many people report ipw2200 isn't stable in intrepid. does anybody know if this is an ubuntu or an upstream kernel bug? or is there a fix I missed?
[00:31] <Fougner> oh
[00:31] <lo> Installed all of the ubuntustudio packages on top of fresh ubuntu 8.10 but when I boot into rt kernel: wifi not working and jack won't start
[00:32] <zetheroo> still having printer issues
[00:32] <zetheroo> please help
[00:32] <AskHL> tarelerulz, the documentation for Nautilus should provide the answers for most questions.  Generally, all Gnome modules are documented.  Just use F1
[00:32] <luigi> DeVnOrE, [Sat Nov 22 01:30:11 2008] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[00:32] <luigi> DeVnOrE, [Sat Nov 22 01:30:10 2008] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[00:33] <DeVnOrE> okok
[00:33] <tarelerulz> AskHL ,  say I wanted to add shortcut to places ? How might I do that.  That is what I really wanted
[00:33] <bazhang> zetheroo, which printer
[00:33] <bazhang> !cups
[00:33] <bazhang> zetheroo, read that ^^
[00:33] <zetheroo> bazhang: hp laserjet 1010
[00:33] <AskHL> tarelerulz, System -> preferences -> main menu
[00:33] <DeVnOrE> ls /home/luigi/ | grep wwwbserver
[00:33] <coddy> :)
[00:34] <DeVnOrE> ls -la /home/luigi/ | grep wwwbserver
[00:34] <bazhang> zetheroo, did you read the printing docs above? the hp printers work very well in linux
[00:34] <lo> Installed all of the ubuntustudio packages on top of fresh ubuntu 8.10 but when I boot into rt kernel: wifi not working and jack won't start
[00:34] <AskHL> tarelerulz, although the Places menu is not listed for some reason.... let me see
[00:34] <coddy> hey
[00:34] <zetheroo> bazhang: it did work very well in Hardy
[00:34] <luigi> DeVnOrE, drwxr-xr-x  3 luigi www-data  4096 2008-11-22 00:29 wwwebserver
[00:34] <DeVnOrE> weird.. :S
[00:35] <bazhang> zetheroo, what is the problem then? are you sharing a printer with a windows computer?
[00:35] <zetheroo> bazhang: I can print Test Pages only
[00:35] <zetheroo> bazhang: the printer is shared on the network.. but its connect to my computer directly
[00:35] <Scunizi> zetheroo: you might try sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[00:36] <bazhang> zetheroo, try his suggestion
[00:36] <luigi> DeVnOrE, i forgot to tell you that i'm on 64bit... it was amportant???
[00:36] <zetheroo> Scunizi: did that
[00:36] <DeVnOrE> nope shouldn't make any diff
[00:36] <luigi> DeVnOrE, maybe all the problem are on 64 bit???
[00:36] <DeVnOrE> luigi: nah
[00:36] <Scunizi> zetheroo: did you use the "Add Printer" function to get the drivers loaded?
[00:36] <AskHL> tarelerulz, okay, I don't know how to do that.  Seems pretty illogical that the Places menu cannot be edited while the other two menus can easily be edited.
[00:37] <bluesmoke> Anyone with a bcm4328 connecting to an 802.11n router? I'm only getting 12MB/s instead of 54MB/s (g) or 130MB/s (n). I'm thinking it doesn't support 802.11n
[00:37] <gusto5> grahhhh
[00:37] <Skipp_OSX> hello, for whatever reason, the network manager doesn't seem to work
[00:37] <zetheroo> bazhang: when i try to print from another application there is a messages saying "Printer X may not be connected
[00:37] <lo> Installed all of the ubuntustudio packages on top of fresh ubuntu 8.10 but when I boot into rt kernel: wifi not working and jack won't start
[00:37] <Skipp_OSX> is there a way to force it to look for wireless networks?
[00:37] <luigi> DeVnOrE, try to delete apache and purge, and reinstall?
[00:37] <luigi> DeVnOrE, maybe apache get crazy?
[00:37] <zsquareplusc> bluesmoke: 12MB? big B as in Bytes? that would be quite ok.
[00:37] <DeVnOrE> luigi: yes and stick to the /var/www ;)
[00:38] <AskHL> tarelerulz, okay, I found it.  Open Nautilus, then drag an arbitrary folder into the side bar
[00:38] <Scunizi> zetheroo: have you checked http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631  ?  that's the ui for Cups
[00:38] <zetheroo> Scunizi: yes ... like I said the Print Test Page works fine
[00:38] <DeVnOrE> sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 then
[00:38] <bluesmoke> zsquareplusc: I always do that, I meant bits. It's actually connecting at 24Mb/s
[00:39] <Scunizi> zetheroo: I was only asking about your method of installation.. some will try to use the drivers off the HP site. Just wondered about that.  check the address in my previous post and make sure that the printer is listed there and has the correct driver.
[00:39] <AskHL> tarelerulz, you may not be able to drag the "File System" link, but you can *click* on the link and then drag the button above the side panel which can be used to access superfolders
[00:39] <zsquareplusc> bluesmoke: :-)  ok you had better signal with the same physical configuration previously? or was it always like that?
[00:39] <luigi> DeVnOrE, have i to delete the .conf after purge apache?
[00:39] <AskHL> tarelerulz, that will definitely create a link to / in your places menu
[00:40] <bluesmoke> zsquareplusc: Well, it's wireless. In OS X I get 130Mb/s in the exact same location (my desk) as I get 24Mb/s with Ubuntu
[00:40] <DeVnOrE> luigi: do that
[00:40] <systm> drivers
[00:40] <zetheroo> Scunizi: ummm it just started doing something else really strange ...
[00:41] <Scunizi> zetheroo: what's that
[00:41] <zetheroo> Scunizi: when I send it a print job nothing happen for about 2 min ... and then I see a pop-up saying that the Printer may not be connected ... right after that it prints.  whats that all about?
[00:41] <Re[a]per_Rhyme> hoohaw ubuntu
[00:41] <Skyrail> Can I add a user via the terminal but the user doesn't have a specific shell (e.g. --shell /bin/bash, can It be blank somehow...)
[00:41] <luigi> DeVnOrE, apt-get purge apache is correct?
[00:41] <lo> Installed all of the ubuntustudio packages on top of fresh ubuntu 8.10 but when I boot into rt kernel: wifi not working and jack won't start
[00:41] <zsquareplusc> bluesmoke: ok it may be the driver that is either limited or not so good. with the kernel driver for the EEE pc i also get worse performance than with madwifi for example
[00:41] <DeVnOrE> --purge
[00:41] <Scunizi> zetheroo: is this a usb printer or lpt printer?
[00:42] <zetheroo> Scunizi: USB
[00:42] <tarelerulz> AskHL, I did make link to root in location shortcuts use what you told me.  I guess puting location in places is not done. It could be live thing.  like it adds stuff there when you plug something in or it see a partition
[00:42] <bluesmoke> zsquareplusc: Yeah, I'm thinking I should try ndiswrapper instead. Although it chews battery life :/
[00:42] <Scunizi> zetheroo: try turning off the printer and then changing the usb port.. then plug it back in.
[00:42] <zetheroo> Scunizi: tried that already ... :)
[00:43] <Scunizi> zetheroo: or I should say plug it into a different port preferably one that's not on a hub
[00:43] <zsquareplusc> bluesmoke: it may also be that the linux driver is using an other power setting (antenna output) than osx but dont ask me how to check for that :/
[00:44] <AskHL> tarelerulz, be sure you drag it *below* the other things in the Nautilus side bar.  This works for me.
[00:44] <p4_> ok, so running chkdsk /f in windows & restarting twice DID actually work
[00:44] <p4_> i'm still puzzled why this is nessecary in Ibex & not in Hardy?
[00:44] <p4_> Its tempting to continue and give Ibex a chance, I hope I don't regret it
[00:44] <AskHL> tarelerulz, (not all of the other links in the nautilus side bar appear in the Places menu)
[00:45] <Stargazer> Guys, how do i secure a linksys WRT54G2 router ?
[00:45] <p4_> Stargazer, install ddwrt
[00:45] <p4_> then run WPA2
[00:45] <n8tuser> bluesmoke-> yes its related to the driver, you can compare with your osx on the  iwpriv  results and see what settings you can set
[00:45] <zsquareplusc> Stargazer: or install tomato
[00:45] <Stargazer> Zsquareplusc, p4_, which is easier to manage ?
[00:45] <zetheroo> Scunizi: ok and now its not printing at all again
[00:46] <AskHL> tarelerulz, if this is tricky you can obtain the same result by adding a bookmark in Nautilus
[00:46] <Scunizi> zetheroo: was in in a hub before?
[00:46] <p4_> Stargazer, I haven't tried tomato so I can't comment. I'm using a WRT54GL and ddwrt shits on the linksys default drivers
[00:46] <zetheroo> Scunizi: yes ... now not
[00:46] <Scunizi> zetheroo: reinstall the print driver but leave the other one there.....you can delete it later.
[00:47] <zetheroo> Scunizi: ok...
[00:47] <arktvrvs> tomatos are pretty good espcially with salt and pepper
[00:47] <zsquareplusc> Stargazer: i'm not sure if it works on your hardware, but tomato is great and for me its easy to use. realtime bandwidth graphs and such :-)
[00:48] <p4_> wow, sounds good squarepulse
[00:48] <zetheroo> Scunizi: should I select driver from database or from download?
[00:48] <p4_> might have to give it a go
[00:48] <Scunizi> zetheroo: database
[00:48] <eNons3nse> I'm having a problem with Braserio.  I'm trying to burn a music CD but it's telling me I have insufficient space on the CD.  i'm only trying to burn 55 mins.  the burn window is telling me i have 0 bytes free but the status says "the media can be recorded"
[00:48] <zetheroo> Scunizi: it found one to download .... and before I tried it several times from the database
[00:48] <Stargazer> Zsquareplusc, link me ? cause all i'm finding in the repos is a tomatoes game.
[00:49] <Scunizi> zetheroo: does it offer several suggestions for that printer in the database?
[00:49] <zetheroo> Scunizi: ok well I went with the database one ... now there are 3 options for drivers ...
[00:49] <eNons3nse> I've burned these CDs before, but not since I upgraded to 8.10
[00:49] <Scunizi> zetheroo: is there one with a hplip reference?
[00:49] <tarelerulz> AskHL, I don't think there is any easy way to add stuff to places
[00:50] <zsquareplusc> p4_: best router i ever had. you can configure that wifi is off during night unless at weekends and such. and i've set it up so that i can network boot my PCs with ubuntu (needs dhcp config which it supports)
[00:50] <zsquareplusc> Stargazer: http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato
[00:50] <p4_> Awesome
[00:50] <p4_> cheers dude
[00:50] <Scunizi> zetheroo: or I should say... what are the three?
[00:50] <AskHL> tarelerulz, I did it.  Add a bookmark in Nautilus.  Use the bookmarks -> add bookmark in Nautilus
[00:51] <zetheroo> Scunizi: 1. Foomatic/hpijs (this is the one I have been using till now) 2. CUPS+Gutenprint 3. CUPS+Gutenprint Simplified
[00:51] <oaxamatt1> Hi all,  Does someone have a moment to answer a compiling question?
[00:51] <Scunizi> zetheroo: try #2
[00:51] <AskHL> tarelerulz, it will appear below "home folder" and "Desktop", but above the other things
[00:51] <tarelerulz> AskHL, that will make new folder short cut in the place menu at the top . The one by applications at the top of the screen
[00:52] <zetheroo> Scunizi: ok ... installed
[00:52] <p4_> Anyhow thanks for the tips guys. Good luck with your systems I'm going back to rebuilding this desktop.
[00:52] <p4_> later
[00:52] <zetheroo> Scunizi: should I do anything before trying to print?
[00:52] <nbeebo> oaxamatt1: just ask, thats theirs policy...
[00:52] <oaxamatt1> ok
[00:53] <zetheroo> Scunizi: this is the Device URI : hp:/usb/hp_LaserJet_1010?serial=00SGFB549271
[00:53] <Scunizi> zetheroo: give it a shot
[00:53] <isleshocky771> Hello room.
[00:53] <tyler_> how do i get rid of this damn auto eth0 thing in 8.10....I deleted it...it came back on restart...I chose for it to not connect automatically and on restart it just made another autoetho...i made a secondary connection called static
[00:53] <tarelerulz> AskHL,  You are the main I had been looking for that for years and never gotten it working.  Seemed odd to me that you could not do it by menu
[00:54] <Scunizi> zetheroo: sometimes they setup the printer for A4 paper size.. just in case your using 8.5x11.. you'll have to change the setting in http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631
[00:54] <zsquareplusc> tyler_ did you use the network manager to configure? or /etc/network/interfaces?  (us ethe 1st)
[00:54] <isleshocky771> Anyone have any idea why I can only drag things onto half of my second monitor? It's displaying the full screen. And I have a panel across it.  And I can move my mouse on the whole screen. But windows won't move into.
[00:54] <tyler_> network manager
[00:54] <tyler_> zsquareplusc
[00:54] <AskHL> tarelerulz, yeah, I was a bit confused for a while too
[00:54] <AskHL> tarelerulz, it's rather illogical that the menu editor does not contain any information on this
[00:55] <The-Phoenix> hi
[00:55] <darkdeeper> tyler_, i just leave it be and use the radio button to connect to my secondary...
[00:55] <zetheroo> Scunizi: hey it printed ... :) ... but I accidentally clicked on Hide on the printer notification applet ... know how I can get it back?
[00:55] <bytor4232> Okay, whats the deal with audio.  I've been running xubuntu 8.10, and installed ubuntu by "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and now sound does not work.
[00:55] <Scunizi> zetheroo: you're on your own on that one.. sorry.. :)
[00:55] <tyler_> darkdeeper: but on restart you have to manually do it everytime?
[00:56] <tyler_> this is on a server so i would like it to connect to the same IP everytime...but its keep getting this auto crap which is using dhcp
[00:56] <lo> Installed all of the ubuntustudio packages on top of fresh ubuntu 8.10 but when I boot into rt kernel: wifi not working and jack won't start
[00:56] <zetheroo> Scunizi: ok... I am going to try this printing thing again ... so it looks like it was a driver issue huh!?
[00:56] <nbeebo> tyler_, im a noob but try menu > system > administartion > services.. can it be there?
[00:56] <tarelerulz> AskHL, looking at it . you be able to place any of the short cuts any where you want . If it be places or app , system easy .  Drag the icons on the menus the selfs
[00:57] <Scunizi> zetheroo: sure does.
[00:57] <zetheroo> Scunizi: yay ... its printing ...! Thank you SO much!
[00:57] <oaxamatt1> Hi all, I am trying to compile this small prog on encryption and not getting thru it.
[00:57] <zsquareplusc> zetheroo: so 1 out of 3 solved. up to the next one ;-)
[00:58] <zetheroo> zsquareplusc: ha ... correct
[00:58] <Scunizi> zetheroo: congrats!  No Problem
[00:58] <camokat> hello
[00:58] <oaxamatt1> I did the std build-essential then ./configure (which went well) then did make and that is when I ran into problems.
[00:58] <zetheroo> zsquareplusc: well the mic issue is a no-go ... but the Wireless is still a mystery
[00:59] <Garnol9155> why does ubuntu does not have the latest open office version?
[00:59] <oaxamatt1> I can't get past the make command
[00:59] <flashprolinux> is there any good ajax toolkit for open source
[00:59] <camokat> I installed Windows on a machine that had Ubuntu previously installed. How can I setup boot loader so that I can boot back to Ubuntu?
[00:59] <zsquareplusc> Garnol9155: because OO was not ready when the  release was frozen
[00:59] <camokat> i did it once, but forgot how
[00:59] <nbeebo> it seems ubuntu cannot detect that my monitor is widescreen, how can i fix that?
[00:59] <nbeebo> cant get 1900x1200 but i can get 1600x1200
[00:59] <Garnol9155> why is it not part of the "updates"?
[00:59] <zetheroo> anyone know if there is a better wifi driver than the one used in Intrepid for the Atheros chipset?
[01:00] <zsquareplusc> zetheroo: madwifi? ndiswrapper?
[01:00] <tyler_> zsquareplusc: should i type something in my interfaces.conf?
[01:00] <oaxamatt1> anyone know anything about compiling progs
[01:00] <zsquareplusc> tyler_ no. using the network manager should be better now.
[01:00] <LF|Irssi> Garnol9155: i found you a beta if you dont mind? http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxinteldeb&lang=en-US&version=3.0.0beta2
[01:01] <LF|Irssi> that's 3.0 beta 2
[01:01] <zetheroo> zsquareplusc: hmm ... I thought the madwifi driver was the one used in Intrepid!?
[01:01] <isleshocky771> Is there an equivalent in gnome to kde 4.1's alt-f2 (quick search). Includes launching applications.
[01:02] <Phineas> bye
[01:02] <Scunizi> zetheroo: did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package yet?
[01:02] <zetheroo> Scunizi: nope
[01:02] <Scunizi> zetheroo: search synaptic for it and install.. Atheros should work then
[01:02] <kindofabuzz> where are gedit themes located?
[01:03] <zsquareplusc> zetheroo: dont know. but on the EEE pc is not the same in the kernel and what i installed manually
[01:03] <nbeebo> isleshocky771 yes there are.. cant remember name, i would google "quicksilver for ubuntu"
[01:03] <tyler_> zsquareplusc: how do i get rid of this auto crap forever...!!!
[01:03] <tyler_> what does auto lo mean in my interfaces.conf
[01:03] <nbeebo> how can i make my drivers recognize my resolution?
[01:03] <zetheroo> Scunizi: well its not that it does not work at all .... kinda like the printing
[01:04] <flashprolinux> which is the best way to develop ajax applications using open source like we have in windows Dreamweaver spry and Visual studio .net incude ajax toolkit
[01:04] <zetheroo> Scunizi: it just takes forever to locate any wireless networks and even longer to connect
[01:04] <zsquareplusc> tyler_ "lo" is the interface that is used for localhost and other local connections (<IP_ADDRESS> etc). it should be started automatically with that
[01:04] <Scunizi> zetheroo: are you using any encryption?
[01:04] <nbeebo> hey i need help with my resolution..
[01:05] <zetheroo> Scunizi: on one wifi router yes and on the other not ...
[01:05] <zetheroo> Scunizi: and its the same story with both
[01:05] <nbeebo> i cant use my screens max resolution
[01:05] <Scunizi> zetheroo: sorry I gotta run.. hopefully someone will pick this up.. wife is yelling that we have to go.. good luck
[01:06] <zetheroo> Scunizi: should I reboot?
[01:06] <zetheroo> ok
[01:06] <nbeebo> so noone can answer my question about max resolution?
[01:06] <tyler_> zsquareplusc: if i made a new connection called static i could just type static in the interface file and it will connect to that on startup?
[01:07] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ok.. it work!
[01:07] <Anacranom> nbeebo, have you added the reolutions to your .conf?
[01:08] <nbeebo> anacranom: how do u do that?
[01:08] <nbeebo> anacranom: i have the conf open in gedit right now
[01:08] <tyler_> also my netmask keeps getting changed to 24 from <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:08] <Anacranom> nbeebo, have a sample on my other box,, join #SeaPhor and ill go there and give you the sample
[01:08] <luigi> DeVnOrE, ops.. it works! my english it's so shameful!!!! worse tha my knowledge on linux!
[01:09] <nbeebo> ok
[01:10] <zsquareplusc> tyler_ hm maybe. but i think they discourage that with intrepid
[01:11] <alec868> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 on an eee pc 900. im looking into overclocking, however ubuntu doe4s run quite well as is. im not so versed in terminal. is this a good idea or a bad one
[01:12] <flashprolinux> alec868 overclocking never
[01:12] <zsquareplusc> alec868: overclocking uses more power (battery) so you may be h appier by 1st trying to disable visual effects and such. overclocking may still be interesting for some applications though
[01:12] <wiseman> hey I have a stupid question
[01:13] <wiseman> Does ekiga call regular phone numbers, or only other ekiga subscribers?
[01:13] <flashprolinux> i guess :) ekiga subscripers
[01:13] <zsquareplusc> flashprolinux: in that case it isnt that bad. at least the EEE pc 700 contain hardware for 900MHz but they run it only at 600 by default..
[01:13] <luigi> !it
[01:13] <alec868> zsquareplusc: i mean everything works fine more or less, i just am intruigued by the possibility of getting all i can out of the computer.
[01:14] <flashprolinux> i can't bare the voice of cpu after over clocking it heats to much and fan moves really fast
[01:14] <Awausagi> Daisuke_Ido: Hi - Just popping back in, to say Thanks alot mate! My dpkg issue is now fixed.
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome, glad that worked for you :)
[01:14] <ivan2> ciao a tutti
[01:15] <Yamakiri|Away> what's different between ubuntu and debian?
[01:15] <alec868> i also am having a minor issue with wireless on the eee pc, i have to turn of the drivers everytime i shut down, and then restart them each time, is there a way to fix this?
[01:15] <Awausagi> Daisuke_Ido: ^^ So am I, been trying to sort it out for a month or so. Looking all over internet for help. But couldn't find any solution wich didn't involve me to install or remove anything. Wich again caused me to see the bothering message.
[01:16] <Awausagi> Daisuke_Ido: Anyhow, just popped in to say Thanks! You made my day =)
[01:16] <jason_> How do I get VNC to run as a user (not root). I have it configured properly to start a gnome session and give me a proper desktop, but it will only run as root. If i try starting it as a user it says "xauth: error in locking authority file /tmp/...."
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> just glad i could help :D
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> have a good one, and drop back in if you have any other issues
[01:17] <Anonymous762> Hello... I need some help with ubuntu installation.
[01:17] <Awausagi> Will do - Until then, take care!
[01:17] <dmulholland> hey, im working in emacs to edit .cu files that have C source code in them, how can i make emacs colour this extension with C source formatting?
[01:17] <Anonymous762> Is there anybody here who can help me?
[01:17] <jason_> I should have been more clear - I want the session to be that of my user, not root. Currently, the gnome session is for root.
[01:17] <zsquareplusc> jason_: hm. it shoud basically work to start as manx vncserver as a user as you want. but maybe gnome isnt allowing the same user multiple times on one machine
[01:18] <alec868> can anyone tell me how to get web cam working in ubuntu on eee pc?
 does ekiga call regular numbers, or only other ekiga clients?
[01:18] <jason_> zsquareplusc, nope - i can start multiple gnome sessions as root
[01:18] <jason_> zsquareplusc, seems like a permission issue
[01:19] <jason_> zsquareplusc, btw, I had to use "gnome-session &". the default SESSION_MANAGER setting didn't work
[01:19] <Anonymous762> Uhm, well anyways... I'm trying to install Ubuntu but I'm afriad it will corrupt my windows, as I do not own this computer and was hoping if somebody could give me instructions so Ubuntu could run alongside windows; or whatever.
[01:19] <zsquareplusc> wiseman: well calling "normal" phones involves paying money to someone. so you'd need a provider for such a service. there are i think also for protocols that ekiga supports
[01:19] <wiseman> Anonymous762: When you install it, it'll prompt you for partitioning.  you just make a new partition
[01:19] <Anonymous762> Alright
[01:20] <jason_> Anonymous762, did you try the Wubi installer? It will allow you to install Ubuntu in Windows without reformatting/creating new partitions.
[01:20] <wiseman> zsquareplusc: that's what I figured, but it was all "Free this and free that" and I was like "what the hell?"
[01:20] <drumstyk1> hey guys, who knows the command to burn an iso?
[01:20] <Anonymous762> I burned the current version of Ubuntu right off the website.
[01:20] <Anonymous762> I'm a programmer, and I figure Ubuntu would fit like a glove.
[01:20] <zsquareplusc> drumstyk1: cdrecord?
[01:21] <jason_> Anonymous762, Are you worried about corrupting Windows/losing data or you just don't want to repartition?
[01:21] <Anonymous762> I'm afraid of coruppting...
[01:21] <drumstyk1> zsquareplusc: you question mark concerns me, lol
[01:21] <Don_Miguel> jason_, it is NOT his PC
[01:21] <wiseman> I've enjoyed every minute of ubuntu so far since I got it working properly
[01:21] <jason_> ah, missed that part - sorry
[01:21] <zsquareplusc> Anonymous762: backup :-)  then the cd should propose to repartition the hard drive and resize the existing parititon.
[01:21] <Anonymous762> There's a crap load of information on this computer, and corrupting it would really be a big problem.
[01:22] <kdogg> Anonymous762 when you run the install script from the ubuntu live cd, during setup iit asks you if you want to keep any windows partitions and just resize the windows one. but sometimes it doesnt work
[01:22] <wiseman> <----hasn't lost a thing
[01:22] <drumstyk1> i figured i could cd into the directory and do some "sudo write *.iso" or somethin to that effect
[01:22] <zsquareplusc> drumstyk1: i'm just not sure if its the one ubuntu uses. it is a cd writer app
[01:22] <jason_> if it's not his PC, he should back up before installing (should do so anyway) or run off the live-cd
[01:22] <ubuntu> hola
[01:22] <kdogg> Anonymous762 otherwise youll have to do a fresh install if windows, then ubuntu
[01:22] <Anonymous762> It says in the booting tutorial that when the installation is finished it will show me a screen to choose either windows or... whatever
[01:22] <ubuntu> alguien ahi_
[01:23] <ubuntu> sorry no speak english
[01:23] <Anonymous762> Does it ask me this near the end or beginning?
[01:23] <Anonymous762> Because I attempted to see what the installation was like at my friend's house and I don't recall seeing that.
[01:23] <Anonymous762> Or am I just not looking hard enough?
[01:23] <zsquareplusc> Anonymous762: after installing. it should ask when booting the PC which OS you want to start
[01:23] <kdogg> Anonymous762 yes, when you reboot after installing, you will be presented with grub, the grand unified bootloader, it detects operating systems and puts them in a list for you to select
[01:24] <Anonymous762> Alright
[01:24] <Anonymous762> I suppose I'll install..
[01:24] <ri0n2> iight
[01:24] <wiseman> I'd reccomend it
[01:24] <wiseman> Anonymous762: You're gonna like it
[01:24] <Anonymous762> Just wanted to know if it would tweak with my Windows or not.
[01:24] <Anonymous762> I already ran it.
[01:24] <Anonymous762> "Try Ubuntu without changing your computer"
[01:24] <wiseman> I have seen the light!  Ubuntu has shined upon me and made me its messenger!  Can I get an Amen?!?
[01:24] <wiseman> SUDO Can I get an AMEN!??!
[01:24] <Kanzar> uh... getting the "rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" error when trying to run rtorrent :(
[01:25] <kdogg> Anonymous762 thats the live cd
[01:25] <Kanzar> latest libtorrent installed... i think correctly? D:
[01:25] <ubuntu> hello friends
[01:25] <Anonymous762> I'm using the live cd. :S
[01:25] <Anonymous762> if that's ok...
[01:25] <kdogg> Anonymous762 if you boot that cd you can preview ubuntu
[01:25] <Anonymous762> I already have previewed
[01:25] <Anonymous762> I like it. :D
[01:25] <kdogg> ahh
[01:26] <zsquareplusc> Anonymous762: that is actually a good thing o check the hardware compatibility with the live cd :-)
[01:26] <ubuntu> there is someone who understands Spanish_
[01:26] <Kanzar> (strangely, doing grep torrent in /usr/lib does nothing, as there is no folder D: - where did libtorrent get installed)
[01:26] <Anonymous762> Yeah I'll take a look.
[01:26] <jason_> When i installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop it was initially unbootable. I had to set grub to /dev/sda1. I believe the default was /dev/hd0. Is this normal?
[01:26] <kdogg> the live cd is much slower compared to the real thing
[01:26] <zsquareplusc> !es | ubuntu
[01:26] <Anonymous762> Wait, will there be a box that I can check on or off to avoid touching my windows?
[01:26] <ssmy> jason_: n, you just got the wrong combination apparently
[01:26] <Anonymous762> When installing, of course.
[01:26] <jason_> There were two hard drives in the system and a windows dynamic drive that spanned both. I was using part of the first drive for ubuntu.
[01:27] <kdogg> Anonymous762 it will ask you how you want to partition your drives
[01:27] <Anonymous762> hmm
[01:27] <jason_> *windows dynamic partition
[01:27] <Anonymous762> I'll be on the lookout
[01:27] <Anonymous762> See you.
[01:27] <kdogg> Anonymous762 it will detect windoes os's, and ask you if you just want to resize the current one
[01:27] <Anonymous762> Later
[01:27] <Anonymous762> I suppose.
[01:27] <zsquareplusc> Anonymous762: there is an other methos to install, with "wubi" you run windows to install ubuntu and it will install it as a file on the windows partition. no repartitioning
[01:27] <zsquareplusc> !wubi
[01:28] <zsquareplusc> its also on the CD
[01:28] <kdogg> hmm
[01:28] <kdogg> does it run it in a vm?
[01:28] <zsquareplusc> nope
[01:28] <wiseman> I thought wubi makes it slow?
[01:29] <russ> where (what folder) does ubuntu install programs?
[01:29] <kdogg> oh so its just a windows enviroment installer
[01:29] <zsquareplusc> its loop-mounting the harddisk image that is on the NTFS partition. so it goes through 2 filesystem drivers. that is slower
[01:29] <zsquareplusc> but it shouln't be so bad
[01:29] <jrib> russ: why?
[01:29] <kdogg> sowhat happens if windows fails?
[01:29] <jason_> If you're installing on another person's computer, the safety of the data should be paramount.
[01:30] <jason_> so, i would say the reduced performance is a decent tradeoff in his position
[01:30] <Shadoukun> I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 and I have a Creative X-fi with the official drivers. I have a headset plugged in, and everytime I speak it plays back. Everything I say is replayed to me and everything I play (youtube, music etc) is played back to anyone who I might be talking to (skype) Is there anyway to fix either of these?
[01:30] <russ> jrib: so I can look in it and see whats there
[01:30] <kdogg> i prefer fresh install
[01:30] <jrib> jason_, Anonymous762: if you have data you care about, you should have backups.  If you choose wubi, you really need read the warnings on there faq
[01:31] <jrib> russ: dpkg -L PACKAGE    will list the files a package installed.  Also see:
[01:31] <jrib> !fhs | russ
[01:31] <jason_> jrib, I suggested he backup, but it's not even his PC. He seemed to want to install rather than run ubuntu off the CD. If backing up and the live disk aren't options, I would say Wubi is better than a normal install which requires re-partitioning.
[01:32] <kdogg> Shadoukun try turning down the mic input
[01:32] <jason_> jrib, The "guided" repartition tool doesn't seem to work very well if you have an uncommon setup. Because of the dynamic volumes on my system, Ubuntu's guided install would have wiped out part of the volume, and thus about 500 GB of data.
[01:32] <Shadoukun> Yeah, but then I'm really quiet.
[01:33] <Shadoukun> I should be able to just mute the playback without having to turn down my input, but it wont let me.
[01:33] <jason_> jrib, ..which is why I suggested wubi as an alternative. I wasn't saying either were a particularly good idea.
[01:33] <kdogg> my theory is it cant resize a ntfs partition that is all fragged
[01:33] <kdogg> but i have never tested
[01:33] <kdogg> lol
[01:34] <kdogg> Shadoukun im pretty sure if you just turn down the mic in volume properties it will help
[01:34] <zsquareplusc> Shadoukun: in the mixer settings, recordings. there is a speaker symbol it lets you choose if an input should be recorded only or also played on your speakers
[01:34] <Killer--Tux> help with keyboard numberpad wont work
[01:34] <kdogg> hmm
[01:35] <zsquareplusc> Killer--Tux: NumLock key not pressed?
[01:35] <jrib> Killer--Tux: if you hold down the number 4 on your numpad, does your mouse move?
[01:35] <Shadoukun> When I press the 'speaker symbol' it just mutes it entirely.
[01:35] <Killer--Tux> yes
[01:35] <Killer--Tux> jrib
[01:35] <jrib> Killer--Tux: press ctrl-shift-numlock
[01:35] <Killer--Tux> jrib hey thank
[01:36] <kdogg> Shadoukun you cant move the slider up and down?
[01:36] <Shadoukun> I can, but then it just lowers the input volume
[01:36] <Shadoukun> It's still looping.
[01:36] <kdogg> even all the way down??
[01:36] <Shadoukun> Then it's muted.
[01:36] <Killer--Tux> jrib question how come everytime i restart my computer my screen resolution changes
[01:36] <zsquareplusc> Shadoukun: hm recoding should still be possible. even without direct playback
[01:37] <Shadoukun> zsquareplusc, I know :(
[01:37] <Shadoukun> I can do it on my laptop, but my desktop just wont.
[01:37] <zsquareplusc> Shadoukun: are you recoring the "analog mix" or something, instead of the microphone input?
[01:37] <oko2> Anybody alive?
[01:38] <Shadoukun> I don't think so...
[01:38] <zsquareplusc> Shadoukun: sometimes you need to enable "options" or additional inputs in the properties of the mixer to enable input channel selections
[01:38] <Shadoukun> All of the addiontal ones are enabled.
[01:38] <jrib> Killer--Tux: how did you set it?
[01:39] <Killer--Tux> jrib ?!?
[01:39] <jrib> Killer--Tux: how did you set your screen resolution?
[01:40] <Killer--Tux> jrib they way i change it back to normal is by opening a video file in full screen for a couple of seconds and then the reso comes back to normal
[01:41] <luigi> i've done a symlink of /var/www/public to my home... how can i assign permession to write in this dir with my account?
[01:41] <mEck0> hi! have someone here shared folders with samba (manually conf the smb.conf) in Ubuntu 8.10? I've read a whole bunch of guides and did exactly as they says, but can't get it work :(
[01:41] <android6011> i need to create an msdos startup disk from in ubuntu ..how can i do this
[01:41] <oko2> To edit your screen resolution find xorg.conf file and change the mode lines into the resolution you want.
[01:42] <luigi> DeVnOrE, are you here??
[01:42] <DiiPhantom> how do i run teamspeak server?
[01:42] <oko2> then restart yor :l #ubunut
[01:42] <DiiPhantom> i installed it but no idea how to start it
[01:43] <DVA5912> What is the name of the package that contains extra gnome login themes?
[01:43] <Anonymous762> Hey guys I'm back... Anonymous7-whatever
[01:43] <Don_Miguel> DiiPhantom, look in the applications menu on the desktop panel
[01:43] <maxbaldwin> DVA5912, there should be some preinstalled.
[01:43] <DiiPhantom> Don_Miguel: only the client is there
[01:44] <DVA5912> maxbaldwin: yes but i belive there are some extras that i can download through synaptic
[01:44] <skylarS> Does anyone know how to revert to ubuntu-server instal after doing a bunch of experimentation with ubuntustudio/xubuntu/ubuntu-desktop... I want to go back to the command line boot
[01:44] <dmulholland> hey, im using xterm but it doesn't read the alt key on my keyboard... anyone know why?
[01:44] <strN00B> I just installed a fresh 8.10 from liveCD and get black screen after LOGIN! =/
[01:44] <Anonymous762> Guys I'm on step 4 of 7 and I'm wondering what to do
[01:45] <skylarS> strN00B, can you login to a terminal?
[01:45] <ssmy> dmulholland: I seem to be experienced this with gnome-terminal at the moment as well...
[01:45] <jrib> Killer--Tux: weird.  What if you set it in system -> preferences -> screen resolution?
[01:45] <Anonymous762> As I've mentioned before I do not own my computer
[01:45] <Anonymous762> And am trying to keep ubuntu from touching my windows
[01:45] <Don_Miguel> DiiPhantom, then you need to add it to the menu ... I think with System--> Preferences --> main menu
[01:45] <Anonymous762> So... step 4 of 7 on the most current live cd
[01:46] <Killer--Tux> jrib it wont give me any reso but the one that it starts with that it 600x800 something like that
[01:46] <dmulholland> ssmy, within gnome-terminal it works perfectly, just not within xterm
[01:46] <strN00B> skylarS, if SSH is installed on 8.10 by default
[01:46] <Anonymous762> So I need to know what to do. :S
[01:46] <ssmy> dmulholland: maybe different problems then.
[01:46] <flashprolinux> konsole gnome-terminal xterm which is best
[01:46] <dmulholland> ssmy, when i go to a tty it works without a problem as well
[01:46] <flashprolinux> i guess for me konsole is best
[01:46] <jrib> Killer--Tux: try setting it in your xorg.conf I guess
[01:46] <jrib> !x > Killer--Tux
[01:46] <dmulholland> ssmy, does your alt key ever work?
[01:46] <strN00B> skylarS, connection refused =/
[01:47] <ssmy> dmulholland: perfectly, as far as I can tell. Just noticed it in irssi a minute ago.
[01:47] <Anonymous762> Can anyone here just offer to help me through a PM?
[01:47] <djhash> Anonymous762: is that the hard drive partition part?!!
[01:47] <DiiPhantom> Don_Miguel: its not there
[01:47] <dmulholland> ssmy, out of interest what keyboard are you using?
[01:47] <Anonymous762> Uhm
[01:47] <Anonymous762> Yeah
[01:47] <Anonymous762> it is. T_T
[01:47] <djhash> Anonymous762: what options do you see?
[01:48] <Anonymous762> uhhh
[01:48] <Anonymous762> ill pm you them
[01:48] <Anonymous762> one second
[01:48] <ssmy> dmulholland: gateway laptop keyboard right now =/
[01:48] <djhash> Anonymous762: dont PM.. send them here..
[01:48] <ssmy> dmulholland: you?
[01:49] <dmulholland> ssmy, believe I've found the answer to my problem but most likely wont solve yours - http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/MetaKeyProblems#toc15
[01:49] <strN00B> I just installed a fresh 8.10 from liveCD and get black screen after restart and LOGIN! =/
[01:49] <dmulholland> ssmy, I'm using the new apple keyboard
[01:49] <hmw> strN00B: notebook, nvidia?
[01:49] <strN00B> hmw, sony vaio
[01:50] <LF|Irssi> yay for Emacs :)
[01:50] <Anonymous762> uhhh..
[01:50] <strN00B> hmw, i was able to login and the screen went black
[01:50] <hmw> strN00B: it might be, that your notebook tries to output to the VGA instead of the LCD display
[01:50] <djhash> Anonymous762: is there a Guided, largest free space?!!
[01:50] <hmw> strN00B: you should see the console, if you switch with CTRL-ALT-F1
[01:51] <ssmy> dmulholland: yeah, looks like different problems. I will keep trying. In the meantime hitting esc then the key works well. can't remmeber where I learned that.
[01:51] <strN00B> hmw, im not using laptop.. is sony vaio desktop
[01:51] <hmw> strN00B: oh. didnt know, that there are desktops. can you go to the console?
[01:52] <dmulholland> ssmy, check out the .Xdefaults values in that link, might just solve the problem...
[01:52] <dmulholland> ssmy, i think those values really might be worth you trying...
[01:52] <strN00B> hmw, no! and i can see the mouse cursor and move it
[01:52] <strN00B> hmw, will not let me get to console
[01:52] <hmw> strN00B: sorry, i cant help you here :(
[01:53] <strN00B> hmw, bummer!
[01:53] <Jordan_U> strN00B: Can you ssh in?
[01:53] <goodmami> intrepid supposedly did away with editing xorg.conf (though I had to do it for tablet input). Is there a preferred way to get my thinkpad trackpoint scrolling working?
[01:53] <strN00B> FreeBSD here i come!
[01:53] <djhash> Anonymous762: still there?!! is there a Guided largest free disk space
[01:53] <Anonymous762> djhash-> 2022Guided - use entire disk. SCSI3 (0,0,0)(sda) -random crap- 2022Guided - use the largest continuos space 2022Manual
[01:53] <strN00B> Jordan_U, no
[01:54] <djhash> Anonymous762: use the largest continuous space...
[01:54] <strN00B> Jordan_U, connection refused... i just installed a fresh copy of 8.10
[01:54] <Anonymous762> ok
[01:54] <Anonymous762> thanks
[01:54] <djhash> Anonymous762: hold on
[01:54] <djhash> Anonymous762: What are your hard drives?!
[01:54] <skyfury> i wanna set up some raid10 with ubuntu 8.10 server - its not detecting my raid devices - controller is onboard Thunder K8SR (S2881) <- i think this is a fake controller (software)... any suggestions?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> strN00B: Have you changed anything since installing?
[01:55] <Anonymous762> djhash->I've got an error, lemme copy it down
[01:55] <ssmy> anyone have an idea why my alt/meta key doesn't work thru gnpme-terminal>ssh>screen>irssi? =P
[01:55] <LF|Irssi> FreeBSD is nice , but ..their channel...all they do is fart around and shoot the breeze, its nothing like #Ubuntu </rant>
[01:55] <djhash> Anonymous762: what is the current setup and partitioning of you hard drives?!
[01:56] <Shakedown> So I've got the JRE but some applets won't work and say I need to enable Java (Firefox).  Perhaps I have an outdated JRE? What's the dill?
[01:56] <Anonymous762> wait a second
[01:57] <magnetron> Shakedown→ tell the channel about what you did to install JRE
[01:57] <zsquareplusc> Shakedown: jre != applet i think thats a separate package
[01:57] <ssmy> apparently not gnome-terminal, as xterm has the same problem.
[01:57] <Anonymous762> i closed the error the first time so it's taking a while for it to load so I can copy down the error
[01:57] <djhash> !java | Shakedown
[01:57] <Owl^> Question: Should I replace Windows XP with Ubuntu? I have experience with linux distros, and the last time I tried ubuntu I liked it but it was like 2 years ago or smth. Is it more "out of the box" than it is now?
[01:57] <Shakedown> Hmm
[01:57] <Owl^> t*than it used to be?
[01:58] <darkdeeper> Owl, its has become batter
[01:58] <darkdeeper> Owl, much batter then winXP..
[01:58] <Jordan_U> Owl^: darkdeeper: So much batter you can make many loves with it
[01:58] <zsquareplusc> ssmy: inst screen emulating a terminal like VT102 some special key may not be defined for that so you can not get them through
[01:59] <Owl^> I'm in the game development business... Can I continue m "hobby" in ubuntu, so that it eases my job, which is with windows xp and tools
[01:59] <konglingyun> #ubuntu-cn
[02:00] <bayonet> hello
[02:00] <goodmami> how do I get thinkpad trackpoint scrolling in intrepid?
[02:00] <strN00B> Jordan_U, No I havent
[02:00] <Anonymous762> djhash->i clicked manual because a friend I know suggested it now it lead me to something...
[02:00] <Shakedown> Where's a good place to look for Linux games?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Owl^: Are you developing for OpenGL or DirectX and do you require Visual Studio?
[02:00] <darkdeeper> Owl, maybe you can develope game for ubuntu next... something like hell london......
[02:00] <strN00B> Jordan_U: i tried in GNOME failsafe.. still no luck
[02:01] <djhash> Anonymous762: if you dont know what you're doing you can wipe out your widows partition.. so be careful..
[02:01] <gatorlug> quit
[02:01] <Owl^> darkdeeper, I didn't like Hellgate: London at all, if that's the game ou meant
[02:01] <Owl^> But true
[02:01] <Jordan_U> strN00B: Try booting into "recovery mode" and run "apt-get remove compiz" and see if you can log in then
[02:02] <Owl^> Maybe I could have a say and decide that we need to develop for linux and especially for ubuntu
[02:02] <ssmy> zsquareplusc: possible. i shall investigate
[02:02] <strN00B> Jordan_U, f10 for recovery mode?
[02:02] <darkdeeper> Owl, really?i got stupid teast forgame.
[02:02] <Anonymous762> well i need help..
[02:03] <Jordan_U> strN00B: No, hit escape when you see "GRUB" on the screen and there be a recovery mode option
[02:03] <djhash> Anonymous762: Back out of manual and go back to the screen where it gave you the choices (step 4)
[02:03] <darkdeeper> Owl, well anyway.. openGL will have a bit problem running here.but directX is good.
[02:03] <ssmy> zsquareplusc: nope. outside screen same behaivor is exhibited.
[02:04] <djhash> Anonymous762: now at the top of the screen.. click on Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[02:04] <Anonymous762> ok
[02:04] <djhash> Anonymous762: then type in the terminal "sudo fdisk -l" <-- small letter L
[02:05] <Anonymous762> uhm
[02:05] <Owl^> directx with linux?
[02:05] <Owl^> what are you talking about darkdeeper
[02:05] <Elmnas> hi guys can someone help me I have maked a mistake, I was in the tab session in ubuntu and deselected compiz, so now when Im log in I just have a brown screen no panels or something how do I get it back please
[02:05] <darkdeeper> its to check ur partition.its list all the partition
[02:05] <keyhack> how can I tell which version of the ATI Catalyst proprietary driver I have installed?
[02:05] <dj_ee3> Hi KaK e ?
[02:05] <darkdeeper> Owl, i mean in wine....
[02:06] <djhash> Anonymous762: copy that.. then go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.us   paste it in there.. submit it. then copy the URL you get in address bar then paste it here..
[02:06] <gusto5> linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.27-7-generic cant be found, anyone know why?
[02:06] <RITN> I am trying to get the busid of my vga cards.  i do lspci -x | grep VGA and it gives my things like 01:07.0
[02:06] <dj_ee3> hi.. I have trouble instaling ubuntu
[02:06] <skyfury> i wanna set up some raid10 with ubuntu 8.10 server - its not detecting my raid devices - controller is onboard Thunder K8SR (S2881) <- i think this is a fake controller (software)... any suggestions?
[02:06] <RITN> thats not PCI:x:x:x
[02:06] <jrib> RITN: change the . to a :
[02:07] <koops> how do i start skype using v4l drivers? its using x11 by default......... any ideas?
[02:07] <RITN> okay
[02:07] <RITN> thats what i thought
[02:07] <RITN> just had to check
[02:07] <dj_ee3> It can't go after "starting bluetooth" I have the same problem before which I solved by disabling acpi but, now it does not work
[02:07] <darkdeeper> !ubuntto
[02:07] <dj_ee3> any thoughts? what can I do?
[02:08] <strN00B> Jordan_U: no luck after removing compiz
[02:08] <darkdeeper> i nvr hear v4l
[02:08] <Rave1_> Anonymous762  you may want to try using a live independent disc  GParted it would be more graphical and maybe easier to follow to get you started on understanding partioning.. But be VERY aware that anytime you mess with partions you could loose files or corrupt the  existing OS badly
[02:08] <darkdeeper> wats tat
[02:09] <strN00B> Jordan_U, i wasnt able to get the desktop to load in 'Ubuntu Trial Option' before installing neither
[02:09] <djhash> Rave1_ we're going through the install process of ubuntu.. that would not be necessary..
[02:10] <djhash> !pm | dj_ee3
[02:10] <Leon_Nardella> MOTU sponsors ack for sync. <-- What does this mean in a bug report?
[02:10] <jrib> Leon_Nardella: ask #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-bugs
[02:11] <dj_ee3> anyone willing to help me?
[02:11] <ssmy> anyone have suggestions on getting my meta/alt key working right?
[02:11] <luigi> i've done a symlink of /var/www/public to my home... how can i assign permession to write in this dir with my account?
[02:11] <djhash> dj_ee3: we are all willing.. but if no one knows the answer to your question.. then no one will answer...
[02:12] <Elmnas> hi guys can someone help me I have maked a mistake, I was in the tab session in ubuntu and deselected compiz, so now when Im log in I just have a brown screen no panels or something how do I get it back please
[02:12] <yaser> Hi, I have tried to share my wired Internet in my laptop using my wireless card without sucess, who can help me to trouble shoot a little?
[02:12] <djhash> dj_ee3: however.. I suggest you type ctrl+c when it reaches that point..
[02:12] <ssmy> why would ssh be interfering with my meta key? works locally, but not remotely through ssh.
[02:12] <SmoothWall> heloo
[02:12] <dj_ee3> djhash what point?
[02:12] <ironrose> how do i disable my video driver in ubuntu?
[02:12] <wos> can anyone tell me how to add mythbuntu without changing distributions from ubuntu?
[02:12] <Jordan_U> yaser: What have you tried?
[02:12] <djhash> dj_ee3: the bluetooth part
[02:13] <Rave1_> djhash it is very obvious he does not under stand a thing about partioning is drive make it simple..
[02:13] <yaser> Jordan_U, first firestarter, then iptables
[02:13] <Jordan_U> yaser: Are you using 8.10 ?
[02:13] <yaser> Jordan_U, yes
[02:13] <Werenerd> powertool08: can you think of why "vncviewer localhost:1" would return a connection refused? I am physically at the computer and I am telling to run the vnc viewer on the same machine as the server
[02:14] <Jordan_U> yaser: Have you tried network-manager's sharing feature?
[02:14] <djhash> Rave1_: there is no need to get a seperate CD to go through partitioning process.. when the guided portion of the install will guide him through it..
[02:14] <dj_ee3> I don't know what to do honestly.. before  I solved it by turning off acpi and now I did but no effect..
[02:14] <wos> can anyone tell me how to add mythbuntu without changing distributions from ubuntu?
[02:14] <SmoothWall> how is a 8.10 ?
[02:14] <SmoothWall> how is a 8.10 ?
[02:14] <SmoothWall> how is a 8.10 ?
[02:14] <yaser> Jordan_U, such a thing exists?
[02:14] <FloodBot1> SmoothWall: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <bazhang> wos, install mythbuntu-desktop
[02:14] <wos> bazhang the ubuntu genius
[02:14] <bazhang> SmoothWall, read the notes
[02:14] <bazhang> !notes
[02:15] <SmoothWall> !notes
[02:15] <yaser> Jordan_U, cant believe you
[02:15] <Jordan_U> yaser: Yes, System > Preferences > Network Configuration, set the interface you want to share on to "sharing mode"
[02:15] <Rave1_> true but a grapical interface may TEACH him somthing about doing it
[02:15] <Owl^> blaarbbb
[02:15] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 <---read that link SmoothWall
[02:15] <djhash> dj_ee3: you are booting ubuntu.. it gets stuck at starting bluetooth... at that point.. use your keyboard and press.. ctrl+c.. it'll abort the bluetooth loading process and continue.. then maybe you can uninstall it if you dont use it.. or find a work around.
[02:15] <powertool08> Werenerd: in a terminal run 'ps aux | grep vnc' and see what it returns
[02:15] <anthis> microsoft = ubuntu
[02:15] <anthis> ./join #slackware to learn linux
[02:16] <djhash> Anonymous762: still there?!!
[02:16] <SmoothWall> bazhang, ok
[02:16] <bazhang> anthis, wrong channel for you
[02:16] <SmoothWall> :D
[02:16] <anthis> i guess so
[02:16] <anthis> *shrug*
[02:16] <anthis> crazy 8
[02:16] <anthis> thats what i thought
[02:16] <flashprolinux> is any thing left to develop in linux :D
[02:16] <FloodBot1> anthis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:16] <bazhang> take chat elsewhere
[02:16] <anthis> to uranis?
[02:16] <anthis> isnt that a planet?
[02:16] <flashprolinux> finally i got solution as good as dreamweaver zend :)
[02:16] <PookAir> anthis, Do not compare anything to MS, please.
[02:16] <dj_ee3> djhash thanks
[02:16] <Anonymous762> djhash-> i am still here
[02:17] <djhash> Anonymous762: have you gone through the steps I outline for you?!
[02:17] <Anonymous762> uhhh
[02:17] <Anonymous762> kind of
[02:17] <yaser> Jordan_U, Idont see that sharing mode, where is it
[02:17] <yaser> Jordan_U, ?
[02:17] <Anonymous762> i just finished the sudo fdisk -l
[02:17] <PookAir> anthis, I mean, it's really hurtful, ubuntu just can't be it, MS are evil and has no soul, ubuntu - does.
[02:17] <Anonymous762> :S
[02:17] <Werenerd> powertool08: http://pastebin.com/d4ee87bec
[02:18] <Werenerd> it's greek to me
[02:18] <flashprolinux> infact i am just want another 1 gig of ram for ubuntu that's it :( 1 gig is nothing now a days
[02:18] <djhash> Anonymous762: that should've given you a simple list.. to copy and paste it into pastebin.. it takes one second to run..
[02:18] <powertool08> Werenerd: the :2 means its running on display 2, try connecting to localhost:2
[02:18] <flashprolinux> i can't even think to run around 15 to 20 big applications and my system works awesome ubuntu rocks
[02:18] <ziroday> flashprolinux: you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:18] <Anonymous762> listen dude I am on two different computers a few feet away
[02:19] <Anonymous762> and i dont have much time
[02:19] <Jordan_U> yaser: Select the connection, Edit, ipv4 settings
[02:19] <djhash> Anonymous762: aah.. just was double checking cause we dont want you typing something you dont want to be typing.. :-P
[02:19] <Anonymous762> ugh
[02:20] <Werenerd> powertool08: duh. now I feel stupid
[02:20] <Werenerd> powertool08: thanks again
[02:20] <gusto5> if anyone can lend me some help with sound, that would be fantastico
[02:20] <powertool08> Werenerd: meh, it happens to us all
[02:20] <powertool08> Werenerd: np
[02:20] <wos> is mythbuntu a separate distribution or can i get the same support for it that  the ubuntu channel provides?
[02:20] <ghang> how do I install a C man library manual for checking the c standard function with apt-get install  XXXX?
[02:20] <Hikefu> !mythbuntu
[02:20] <bazhang> wos, there is a channel but it is sparsely populated
[02:20] <Werenerd> powertool08: now all I saw was a white terminal. is that because I am logged in locally?
[02:21] <jrib> ghang: manpages-dev
[02:21] <bazhang> #ubuntu-mythtv
[02:21] <ghang> how do I install a C man library manual for checking the c standard function with apt-get install  XXXX?
[02:21] <luigi> i've done a symlink of /var/www/public to my home... how can i assign permession to write in this dir with my account?
[02:21] <yxl> hallo~!
[02:21] <jrib> ghang: I just told you
[02:21] <yaser> Jordan_U, my Internet comes in trough my wired connection,should I put that in sharing mode?
[02:21] <ghang> hi
[02:21] <jgoguen> ghang: sudo aptitude install manpages-dev
[02:21] <powertool08> Werenerd: hmm, I always get my normal desktop with the addition of the white terminal
[02:21] <bazhang> wos, you will need to a bit of reading to learn what it all means
[02:21] <jrib> !permissions > luigi
[02:21] <wos> bazhang its basically the same thing as ubuntu though right, just with some added features
[02:21] <gusto5> anyone can lend me a hand with a lack of sound?
[02:21] <ghang> thanks jgoguen
[02:22] <Werenerd> powertool08: hmm, I'll tinker.
[02:22] <bazhang> wos, not really no
[02:22] <dj_ee3> djhash ctrl +c didn't work
[02:22] <Jordan_U> yaser: No, you should set the connection to the other computer to "shared to other computers"
[02:22] <yxl> I'm a chinese,my english is poor , so I come here just for fun .
[02:22] <luigi> jrib, LOL!
[02:22] <wos> bazhang, so i cant get ubuntu support for a mythbuntu distribution?
[02:22] <dj_ee3> I am never going to have ubuntu back ;(
[02:22] <yxl> thank u
[02:22] <bazhang> wos, mythtv is not so simple to set up; mythbuntu makes it a bit easier
[02:22] <djhash> dj_ee3: are you using bluetooth? do you have bluetooth
[02:23] <bazhang> wos, as I said you will need to do a bit of reading
[02:23] <dj_ee3> the computer has bluetooth but I don't actually need it
[02:23] <ghang> thanks jrib:
[02:23] <ghang> thanks jrib:    &  jgoguen
[02:23] <dj_ee3> I don't want it ..
[02:23] <wos> bazhang all i want to know is: can i get support for non-tv related stuff for mythbuntu in the ubuntu channel?
[02:23] <tarelerulz> I have mtp media player and I installed mtpfs and mounted it ,but  I can't open nautilus to use the device .  when I  sudo -i and try to go into the mount point It says in point  not connected .
[02:23] <yaser> Jordan_U, umm, so that would be, create a new wireless conection, and set it in sharing mode, then my wireless devices will just "see" the connection like a HotSpot and thats all?
[02:24] <djhash> dj_ee3: if you can't deactivate it using bios.. then maybe you can boot into recovery mode and disable the bluetooth module.. i dont really know the steps for that.. so you're going to need someone other than me to help you on that..
[02:24] <bazhang> wos, have you set it up? what is/are your question(s)?
[02:24] <wos> bazhang i dont have any yet, i just want to know if it is supported in the ubuntu channel for non-mythtv related problems
[02:25] <bayonet> set it up ? what mean?
[02:25] <bazhang> wos, if someone knows the answer they will help
[02:25] <Jordan_U> yaser: As far as I can tell yes ( but unlike a hotspot I think that a computer's wireless card can only share to one computer at a time )
[02:25] <gusto5> anyone land me a hand with sound? it worked up until today
[02:26] <yaser> Jordan_U, i want the connection for my Iphone, ill try that thanks
[02:26] <bazhang> gusto5, type alsamixer in terminal and make sure nothing is muted
[02:26] <wos> bazhang, i mean, mythbuntu and ubuntu aren't as dissimilar as say, ubuntu and kubuntu are they?
[02:26] <Jordan_U> yaser: np
[02:26] <bayonet> 这儿能用中文吗？
[02:26] <gusto5> bazhang, how do i 'turn it up' so to speak?
[02:27] <bazhang> !cn | bayonet
[02:27] <gusto5> oh, bazhang i see how this works, its not muted
[02:27] <bayonet> 我这儿可以显示，不知道其它人那儿怎么样？
[02:27] <bazhang> bayonet, /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:27] <bayonet> 谢谢
[02:27] <bazhang> bayonet, english only here
[02:27] <wos> bazhang, i mean, mythbuntu and ubuntu aren't as dissimilar as say, ubuntu and kubuntu are they?
[02:27] <darkdeeper> bazhang, dont thin heunderstand.
[02:28] <bazhang> !sound | gusto5
[02:28] <yaser> Jordan_U, well, I can see the newly created wifi network with my Iphone, I can connect to it
[02:28] <bazhang> wos, do you have an actual support question?
[02:28] <yaser> Jordan_U, but i dont have Internet, any thing to try
[02:28] <gusto5> bazhang, ive gone through the sound/soundtroubleshoot and even tried compiling alsa again
[02:28] <wos> JESUS CHRIST
[02:28] <gusto5> bazhang, as well as reinstalling a "clean" alsa+co
[02:28] <bayonet> #ubuntu-cn
[02:29] <gusto5> as well as any manual attempts to launch the necessities
[02:29] <bazhang> bayonet, /join
[02:29] <Sambaloko> hello
[02:29] <Sambaloko> helllp
[02:29] <bazhang> gusto5, did you set to alsa from autodetect in sound prefs
[02:29] <gusto5> bazhang, yes
[02:29] <jeancalvin> how do i use the bootchart program? What commands must I run?
[02:29] <Sambaloko> Brasileiro?
[02:29] <bayonet> thank u bazhang
[02:30] <gusto5> bazhang, also tried setting alsa, to no avail
[02:30] <wos> could anyone tell me if ubuntu and mythbuntu are the same thing basically if you take out the TV features?
[02:30] <bazhang> !br | Sambaloko
[02:30] <ziroday> jeancalvin: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/07/howto-use-bootchart-to-time-and-track.html
[02:31] <guitar47> uitar47
[02:31] <flashprolinux> well what's abiword is it base on open office
[02:31] <jeancalvin> ziroday: thakns
[02:31] <bazhang> flashprolinux, its a lighter word processor
[02:31] <ziroday> flashprolinux: no, its a lightweight word processor
[02:31] <jeancalvin> how can i control my debian netbook from my ubuntu desktop?
[02:31] <dj_ee3> Another error
[02:32] <flashprolinux> ok
[02:32] <ziroday> jeancalvin: using vnc?
[02:32] <dj_ee3> Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 53603
[02:32] <jeancalvin> how do can i know if i've already installed a program (i.e. bootchart)?
[02:32] <wos> could anyone tell me if ubuntu and mythbuntu are the same thing basically if you take out the TV features?
[02:32] <irpapabear> hello all
[02:32] <jeancalvin> ziroday: is vnc the best?
[02:33] <ziroday> jeancalvin: for graphically controlling the netbook? Yes
[02:33] <yaser> Hi, I have set up a shared wireless connection betwen my laptop(wired Internet access) and my Iphone, the Iphone sees my laptop connection, but I dont have Internet in the Iphone, how can I trace whats happening?
[02:33] <gusto5> and other things you can pitch at me bazhang?
[02:33] <jeancalvin> is vnc better than tightvnc or realvnc or ultranvnc
[02:33] <WOW> Question, hey if I want the non-free version of virtualbox, what is the name of the package?
[02:33] <WOW> not virtualbox-ose
[02:33] <ziroday> jeancalvin: and you can try install the program again and it will tell you if its installed or not
[02:33] <flaco> hey... someone can help me... I got a new computer... everything works out the box (ubuntu intrepid) except the audio, but the volume control is showed in the main bar ... this is the lspci output http://dpaste.com/92828/  any ideas?
[02:33] <jeancalvin> ziroday: what about for non-graphical remote-control of netbook?
[02:33] <bazhang> gusto5, I recall seeing a sound troubleshooting thread at ubuntuforums, you may wish to check in the sound section there
[02:33] <ziroday> jeancalvin: those are all programs that use the vnc protocol
[02:33] <Rave1_> woshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythbuntu     I would say yes
[02:33] <irpapabear> ose
[02:33] <ziroday> jeancalvin: then you would want ssh
[02:33] <gusto5> alright, your help is much appreciated bazhang
[02:33] <n8tuser> yaser-> what os is running off of your laptop?
[02:34] <gusto5> bazhang, hopefully not the one i started =P
[02:34] <djhash> !alsa | flaco
[02:34] <yaser> WOW, I think its the same, virtualbox-2.0, but you must use special repositories
[02:34] <yaser> n8tuser, Intrepid
[02:34] <WOW> fiasco can you double click the volume icon  and make sure PCM is all the way up?
[02:34] <n8tuser> yaser-> what have you done to troubleshoot?
[02:34] <WOW> yaser,  oh it's the same name? thanks! :) I put the repo, key, updated, but was sad when i didnt see a new virualbox. thanks :) will install now
[02:34] <Guest79321> How do I Disconnect a wireless connection? in windows you rightclick and disconnect, what about in Ubuntu ?
[02:35] <irpapabear> what do you folks use to rip dvd's?
[02:35] <yaser> n8tuser, nothing, dont know where to start
[02:35] <ziroday> irpapabear: dvd::rip, acidrip or ogmrip
[02:35] <WOW> Guest79321, right click computer icon on your panel
[02:35] <n8tuser> Guest79321-> you can unplug your usb wifi? or sudo ifdown wlan0
[02:35] <phirestalker> ok there are development forums on ubuntuforums.com, but are there any development channels here on irc? by development I mean simply compiling software. I am not using a beta version of ubuntu
[02:35] <yaser> WOW, well I think the ose version has ose in its name
[02:35] <irpapabear> ty ziroday
[02:35] <WOW> yaser.... true :blush:
[02:36] <sambagirl> nhow do you change the host name in intrepid?
[02:36] <sambagirl> i didnt mean to use ubuntu as the hostname
[02:36] <n8tuser> yaser-> does your iphone have an ip address assigned?
[02:36] <n8tuser> !hostname | sambagirl
[02:36] <sambagirl> olk
[02:36] <yaser> n8tuser, ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[02:36] <Guest79321> WOW: oh, and enable disable wireless lol thanks, I thought it disabled the driver
[02:36] <jason_> ok, finally got RealVnc 4.4 to start as a user and show a gnome desktop. So now I just need to make sure that it starts up at bootup, or when a user logs in (which occurs automatically). How do I do this to ensure that it's run as a user rather than root?
[02:37] <sambagirl> it sitll shows ubuntu tho
[02:37] <WOW> sambagirl,  i advice using system->administration->networking as said above. its the easiest way
[02:37] <n8tuser> yaser-> i did not give you that command,
[02:37] <sambagirl> sorry i didnot see you WOW
[02:37] <sambagirl> sthanks
[02:38] <sambagirl> shanks
[02:38] <djhash> jason_: remote desktop is preinstalled in ubuntu, and it is VNC... just not RealVNC.. its better than that.. just go to System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[02:38] <yaser> n8tuser, sudo ifdown wlan0?
[02:38] <sambagirl> i figured that is where it should be done wow
[02:39] <darkdeeper> !vnc
[02:39] <zsquareplusc> djhash: better? slower? ;-) and not helpful if you dont want to share the current desktop :-)
[02:39] <flashprolinux> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/11/gplv3-ooo-punish-sellout/ have look on this document
[02:39] <yaser> n8tuser, so can you help me trace whats happening?
[02:39] <bazhang> flashprolinux, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[02:39] <djhash> zsquareplusc: what do you mean not share current desktop?!
[02:39] <jason_> djhash, vino is horridly slow. RealVNC 4.4 Enterprise is orders of magnitude faster (10-100x?) and supports AES encryption, passwords longer than 8 chars, authentication of the server etc.
[02:40] <Elmnas> hi guys I have made a new user in linux but I will remove the old user , but  it says,    is not in the sudoers file.     this incident will be reported
[02:40] <sambagirl> i hae 2 cpus xeon 2.8ghz but it says 4 prpocessors and resources shows activity for  4but i thought i had only 2?
[02:40] <jason_> djhash, when I run vino @ 800x600, I get 50% CPU usage. With VNC, usage is nominal.
[02:40] <AaronX> anyone  have any experience loading ubuntu 8.04 on an appletv?
[02:40] <Elmnas> when Im loggin in as root
[02:40] <sambagirl> but it clearly shows 4 cpus
[02:40] <sambagirl> apple?
[02:40] <yaser>  Hi, I have set up a shared wireless connection betwen my laptop(wired Internet access) and my Iphone, the Iphone sees my laptop connection, but I dont have Internet in the Iphone, how can I trace whats happening?
[02:40] <sambagirl> sure on my macbook
[02:40] <sambagirl> works great
[02:40] <zsquareplusc> djhash: with vncserver you can run many (virtual) vnc servers for many users. these displays wont be visible on the physical screen
[02:40] <darkdeeper> elmnas, you have to add you new user in sudoers list 1st
[02:40] <djhash> jason_: i dont use vino.. i use xtightvnc or xvncviewer.. and I dont get that kind of cpu usage.. for encryption i use tunneling..
[02:40] <sambagirl> i admit i use fusion tho
[02:41] <WastePotato> IIRC, the Xeon have some sort of virtual processors.
[02:41] <Bigwavdave> Howzit! Just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and love it so far; but auto updates don't work. I get error msg.: "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg--configure-a' to fix the problem" Ran that command on terminal to no avail. Does dpkg have to be configured? If so how? I'm running 8.10 on a IBM A31, P4M, 1G ram. Mahalo for any help. BWD
[02:41] <Owl^> uuh, samba
[02:41] <Elmnas> how do I do it?
[02:41] <AaronX> sambagirl: yeah trying to throw it onto the appletv though which is a set top box
[02:41] <djhash> zsquareplusc: in that case thats why I use.. XDMCP..:-)
[02:41] <flaco> anyone with this sound card Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller ??
[02:41] <jason_> djhash, I actually use an OpenVPN tunnel for encryption, but it's nice to have anyhow.
[02:41] <sambagirl> well that is fine but it works on my macbook anyway so there.
[02:41] <mneptok> Bigwavdave: the command you entered is missing a space
[02:41] <sambagirl> and yes i do have a macbook and a thinkpad and a server :p
[02:42] <mneptok> Bigwavdave: sudo dkpg --configure -a
[02:42] <Alexx> ola gostaria de uma ajuda
[02:42] <zsquareplusc> djhash: that's fine too. but i think vnc is a little better if the network has delays. and vnc can keep sessions alive, while you disconnect and reconnect
[02:42] <mneptok> !es > Alexx
[02:42] <Bigwavdave> Thanks, I'll try it.
[02:42] <bazhang> !br | Alexx
[02:42] <yaser> Al2O3, in English
[02:42] <darkdeeper> elmnas, use ur old account or use root then typevisudo
[02:42] <Alexx> ok
[02:42] <sambagirl> jaja
[02:43] <Elmnas> ok
[02:43] <Emry> How would I configure mod suexec for Apache2 _
[02:43] <Emry> ?
[02:43] <sambagirl> welp off to work
[02:43] <w3rd_> im trying to mount an nfs share and i continue to get rpc errors? any clues?
[02:43] <sambagirl> chao
[02:43] <X|> o/
[02:43] <Al2O3> lol
[02:43] <n8tuser> yaser-> does your iphone have an ip address assigned?
[02:43] <Al2O3> hut psanish?
[02:43] <djhash> zsquareplusc: jason_: cool.. I guess i can take a look at realvnc enterprise.. maybe it'll offer something i've been looking for..  can realvnc operate even when no one is logged into the computer?! or is it similiar to the one in ubuntu?!
[02:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-es Al2O3
[02:43] <Al2O3> :)
[02:43] <strN00B> Jordan_U, You around? I fixed the problem!
[02:43] <yaser> n8tuser, I think it does, but cant be sure
[02:44] <Al2O3> will ubuntu 8.10 run pretty well on a 1 gig ram, 1 ghz mobile centrino?
[02:44] <yaser> n8tuser, there is a special application used to share things
[02:44] <Al2O3> portable computer
[02:44] <zsquareplusc> djhash: yes. well at some point someone must log in. but for example you can ssh to the box and run the vncserver for you
[02:44] <bazhang> Al2O3, try the live cd
[02:44] <Al2O3> I have a GF that has windows, and is tired of it, so we are going ot try Linux, or hackintosh OSX
[02:44] <yaser> n8tuser, using dav protocoll and it tells me an IP
[02:44] <Al2O3> Ok, will try th elive CD first.
[02:44] <darkdeeper> Al203, yeah.just put ur swap around 1gb too
[02:44] <Al2O3> thanks.
[02:44] <Elmnas> darkdeeper im  in the terminal file now
[02:44] <X|> So, this must be nerd territory I presume?
[02:44] <Elmnas> umm
[02:44] <Al2O3> ok
[02:44] <Al2O3> that is great to know
[02:44] <FloodBot1> Al2O3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <Stargazer> Anybody know why i'm not getting a pass window when i try and connect to my linsys router ?
[02:44] <thiebaude> :)
[02:45] <Al2O3> floodbot1 is funny
[02:45] <darkdeeper> elmnas, add you new account name below the root and other just like the root one
[02:45] <Al2O3> total POS :)
[02:45] <WOW> Uuuuuummmm guys? About virtualbox... ;p    Is it installed or not? Grr!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/75502/
[02:45] <darkdeeper> elmnas, i mean login id
[02:45] <n8tuser> yaser-> i dont know what tools your ipod has, you can test ping from your ubuntu towards the ipod, and do same from ipod
[02:45] <zsquareplusc> djhash: you can also use the Xvnc server to XDMCP to your GDM. so a remote vieer doesnt need to use X but a vncviewer instead ( handy for windoze users)
[02:45] <phirestalker> ok there are development forums on ubuntuforums.com, but are there any development channels here on irc? by development I mean simply compiling software. I am not using a beta version of ubuntu
[02:45] <Elmnas> what will I ok
[02:45] <Elmnas> ok
[02:45] <Owl^> :)
[02:46] <djhash> zsquareplusc: thanks.. but its not free.. enterprise is for purchase... and the free edition doesnt give me the features..  :-(
[02:46] <n8tuser> phirestalker-> visit #c  for coding
[02:46] <jeancalvin> where's my grub file?
[02:46] <darkdeeper> elmnas, what will i ok????
[02:46] <yaser> n8tuser, yep, I tried to ping my Iphone from the laptop but I get no response
[02:46] <zsquareplusc> djhash: which features? all that i mentioned so far is possible with the free version
[02:47] <yaser> n8tuser, thats very strange as im almost sure, they are connected
[02:47] <WOW> What's that command to reconfigure a package? dpkg --reconfigure PackageName ?
[02:47] <Elmnas> sorry .. nothing lol
[02:47] <yaser> n8tuser, I mean, I can see theconection in my Iphone, if I get away the strength diminishes and all that stuff
[02:48] <djhash> zsquareplusc: encryption.. is not supported in the free..
[02:48] <cowbellemoo> phirestalker, #ubuntu-devel
[02:48] <jeancalvin> how can i edit my grub file?
[02:48] <Elmnas> what will I write to see alll user which excist?
[02:49] <hmw> Elmnas: "cat /etc/passwd"
[02:50] <WOW> jeancalvin,  you can go you system>admin>system>start up manager
[02:50] <zsquareplusc> djhash: there are some free versions with. in any case you can tunnel the connection through ssh. its just one TCP port per connection
[02:50] <darkdeeper> elmnas, less /etc/passwd
[02:50] <jeancalvin> Wow, i don't have >system>
[02:51] <WOW> jeancalvin,  are you on x/k/ubuntu, which one?
[02:51] <Owl^> I have a system
[02:51] <n8tuser> yaser thats why i asked you first if the ipod has an ip address..otherwise it will not be able to share an internet access
[02:51] <vahnx> Hey I have an issue here. If I log off and back in, or reboot, "Allow Xfce to manage the desktop" becomes unchecked and it goes back to the Gnome manager.
[02:51] <jeancalvin> u
[02:51] <jeancalvin> WOW: i'm on ubuntu 8.10 ibex
[02:52] <Bigwavdave> mneptok: sudo dkpg--configure-a returns sudo: dkpg: command not found (I assume - is a space not a hyphen?) Thanks
[02:52] <jeancalvin> Wow, I have system>admin>. but not system>admin>system
[02:52] <Werenerd> powertool08: dude... it's beautiful. Just fricken beautiful.
[02:52] <powertool08> Werenerd: awesome :)
[02:52] <WOW> jeancalvin,  system->Admin -> Start Up Manger
[02:52] <WOW> jeancalvin,  sorry, aparently I'm tired :PO
[02:53] <Werenerd> powertool08: I am on my laptop... ssh'ed via dyn-dns back to my desktop, and have vnc going. this is so totally nerd porn
[02:53] <ms_exodus> NICK exodus_ms
[02:53] <yaser> n8tuser, well it has an IP address, assigned trough DHCP, I could, if I want, put on the wireless connection in the Iphone a static IP, but I dont know exactly what meaning it would have
[02:53] <LF|Irssi> lmao Werenerd :)   sounds fun
[02:54] <Werenerd> powertool08: I really appreciate all your help tonight. Even in Ohio I owe you a beer
[02:54] <n8tuser> yaser-> how is the iphone connected to your laptop? or is it going through a wireless access point?
[02:54] <powertool08> Werenerd: no problem
[02:54] <Werenerd> later all. wife is waiting
[02:55] <yaser> n8tuser, I create in my Ubuntu laptop a new wireless connection, then in the Iphone I see that connection and press the buton, connect to it
[02:55] <ms_exodus> NICK <exodus_ms>
[02:55] <n8tuser> yaser-> adhoc connection from your ubuntu or you are using an AP with the iphone?
[02:55] <yaser> n8tuser, the wireless connection in the ubuntu laptop is set to "sharing mode"
[02:56] <yaser> n8tuser, ad-hoc connection, dont know what is AP
[02:56] <n8tuser> yaser where is the iphone getting its ip address from?
[02:56] <Byan> does anyone know if you can rotate a table in open office calc?
[02:57] <yaser> n8tuser, I dont know exactly, I think I have a dhcp erver installed, may be from that
[02:57] <n8tuser> yaser-> well i dont know either.
[02:57] <jeeves_Moss> what is the best software for making a time line?  I need to enter a bunch of events (that arn't in order), and have the software do a time line.
[02:57] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> vim
[02:58] <unop> !info planner
[02:58] <unop> jeeves_Moss, ^^ planner might help
[02:59] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> gah
[02:59] <mneptok> Bigwavdave: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:59] <mneptok> Bigwavdave: sorry, typo. and look at the spaces in that command.
[02:59] <tarelerulz> I can get on here ,but I can't get net  on firefox .
[02:59] <jeancalvin> how can i modify the GRUB? (Not menu.lst).
[02:59] <jeeves_Moss> unop, I'm looking for something that will produce a graphical time line that I can print out.  I need it for a court case
[03:00] <tarelerulz> I moblock installed ,but I killalled it I think. Ipblck too ,but I unstalled it .  The icon on the menu seem to be there
[03:00] <Segadude> Sup?
[03:00] <WOW> ... Why is Virtualbox (not OSE) **still** not installed?  Look, I've done everything right:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/75508/
[03:00] <hmw> jeancalvin: use sudo grub
[03:00] <hmw> jeancalvin: better google it before trying to use it
[03:00] <WOW> how about  type              man grub         on a terminal
[03:01] <dharanpdeepak> hi
[03:01] <vahnx> virtualbox is a pain in linux
[03:01] <Windsurfer619> (Q) I keep getting nautilus memory leaks. How can I kill nautilus automatically when it gets above 500MB?
[03:01] <Segadude> Is it safe for me to upgrade wubi 8.04 to 8.10?
[03:01] <vahnx> make sure you have the ose modules installed
[03:01] <dutch> hey all. just installed intrepid, and it worked fine first couple of boots. then i activated nvidia drivers, i think version 177 (whatever latest). now gdm wont start. any way to revert?
[03:01] <vahnx> and possibly download it from their site, dont use synaptics
[03:01] <dharanpdeepak> how to start bitesize bugfixing for ubuntu
[03:01] <WOW> vahnx,  Ive been using it for soooooo long and it's been great. but i did fresh isntall of ibex so im reinstalling it
[03:01] <unop> jeeves_Moss, something like this?  http://www.linuxsoft.cz/screenshot_img/91-a.jpg
[03:02] <zsquareplusc> WOW: simply because the binary isnt named like that... try VirtualBox   you can list files of a package with  dpkg -L virtualbox-2.0
[03:02] <yaser> WOW, the name of the executable is VirtualBox
[03:02] <zachb> WOW tons of WOWs
[03:02] <WOW> yaser zsquareplusc  OK hold on I will show you
[03:02] <jeeves_Moss> unop, yes, but the events arn't related like that on a gnat chart.  I need a single time line view
[03:02] <WOW> yaser zsquareplusc  OK hold on I will show you, I have tried that
[03:02] <yaser> WOW, you have a direct access on System Tools
[03:03] <WOW> yaser zsquareplusc  Here you go:
[03:03] <hmw> yaser: not here... root@ociteron:~ # which virtualbox   --->   /usr/bin/virtualbox
[03:03] <WOW> yaser zsquareplusc  Here you go:  (ooops!!!) http://paste.ubuntu.com/75509/
[03:03] <jeeves_Moss> unop, the problem with what I need is that they're just a span of time, but more specifically a single date/time point
[03:03] <wedgeoflemon> can someone help me out with compiz
[03:03] <Segadude> How do you log in as the root user?
[03:04] <dutch> can anyone help me revert to default, free drivers at the CLI?
[03:04] <WOW> Segadude,  we are not allowed to tell you xP
[03:04] <WOW> !root
[03:04] <Segadude> y?
[03:04] <hmw> Segadude: sudi -i
[03:04] <unop> jeeves_Moss, you could have planner draw a very simplistic time line (in fact that's the default) - you could try it out to see if it fits your needs
[03:04] <hmw> sudo
[03:04] <jeeves_Moss> unop, I tried that.  it's not what I'm looking for.
[03:04] <zsquareplusc> WOW: i dont know what you want. you already installed the package as needed. now just run the binary. you're making assumptions about its name that are not true
[03:04] <yaser> WOW, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.0
[03:05] <darkdeeper> Segadude, we dont u to make a mistake.people tat alwiz hang around in rood do make alot of mistake
[03:05] <Windsurfer619> Any way to automatically kill a program when it starts using too much memory?
[03:05] <jeeves_Moss> unop, is there any legal planing packages for Ubuntu?
[03:05] <wedgeoflemon> one of the keys is called "super" but i dont have a super key
[03:05] <yaser> WOW, then run VirtualBox
[03:05] <Segadude> So how do I run stuff that require you to log in as the root user?
[03:05] <hmw> wedgeoflemon: windows key or apple key
[03:05] <WOW> zsquareplusc,  yaser    ...
[03:05] <yaser> WOW, thats all you need
[03:05] <unop> jeeves_Moss, i'm not sure - there might be, have a look in the repos.
[03:05] <WOW> zsquareplusc,  yaser    ...
[03:05] <jeancalvin> how do i modify my bootloader?
[03:05] <wedgeoflemon> ok thanks
[03:05] <unop> Windsurfer619,  ulimit
[03:05] <usser> Segadude, theres no program in the world that requires you to LOGIN as root
[03:05] <WOW> zsquareplusc,  yaser    ...   No way.      I show the output of which command, and it is not installed anywhere. Did you read it?
[03:06] <usser> Segadude, use sudo or for graphical programs gksudo or kdesudo
[03:06] <WOW> zsquareplusc,  yaser    ...   No way.      virtualbox   and virtualbox-2.0  command not found
[03:06] <zsquareplusc> WOW: yes, and did you read what we said?
[03:06] <hmw> jeancalvin: enter "sudo grub" in a terminal window
[03:06] <Windsurfer619> !info ulimit
[03:06] <zsquareplusc> wow: commands are CaseSensitive!
[03:06] <Windsurfer619> !man ulimit
[03:06] <yaser> WOW, you should read again
[03:06] <jeancalvin> hmw: thakns
[03:06] <WOW> zsquareplusc,  Yes I know, I didn't graduate comp sci degree for nothing
[03:06] <Windsurfer619> unop: What do you mean?
[03:06] <yaser> WOW,which VirtualBox
[03:06] <yaser> /usr/bin/VirtualBox
[03:06] <dicipulus> uh oh
[03:07] <Bigwavdave> mneptok: That did it! Thanks for the tutorial!:) (guess I should get out my Mavis Beacon again!)
[03:07] <Segadude> so why don't I have permission to run avgupdate?
[03:07] <hmw> Segadude: usually you start stuff "as root" by issuing "sudo <COMMAND>" ... if you know what you are doing, you can switch to root with sudo -i
[03:07] <unop> Windsurfer619, http://www.ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html
[03:07] <mneptok> Bigwavdave: mVsia Eabcon si teh BSET!
[03:07] <mneptok> ;)
[03:07] <WOW> yaser, zsquareplusc  HA! Thank you.  All the commands in linux that I've run so far  have been lowercase, and I learned that it's supposed to be like that. I figured since I installed virtualbox, the command would be virtualbox, as usual. Odd. Thank you both
[03:08] <Windsurfer619> unop: "E: Couldn't find package ulimit"
[03:08] <hmw> WOW: strange... i have "virtualbox" (installed half an hour ago)
[03:08] <unop> Windsurfer619, that's because it is not available as a package - it's a shell builtin
[03:08] <Windsurfer619> unop: Oh! I see!
[03:08] <unop> Windsurfer619,  at a terminal.   help ulimit
[03:08] <zsquareplusc> WOW: next time to find out what binary to run, try "dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin" :-)
[03:08] <dutch> does anyone know the official way to change video settings from a command line in intrepid? gdm is having trouble starting...
[03:09] <WOW> hmw, I've never used virtualbox-ose before, always the official one. And I too have always had virtualbox as a command (lowercase)
[03:09] <D3RGPS31> Is there a package I can use to view images, and play movies? (like something that interacts with mplayer, macromedia flash player, 'image viewer')
[03:09] <n8tuser> dutch-> man xrandr
[03:09] <GodfatherofEire1> zsquareplusc, you get your nickname from one of the formulas for fractals or what?
[03:09] <usser> n8tuser, xrandr wont work if u dont have xserver running
[03:09] <zsquareplusc> GodfatherofEire1: :-)
[03:10] <unop> dutch, i believe the GDM resolution is set by xorg - and that means editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:10] <hmw> I couldnt download the guest additions iso from within virtualbox, so i downloaded it with firefox. Where do i have to put that file now, or what to do with it?
[03:10] <GodfatherofEire1> Just wonderin, zsquaredplusc, I knew the formula sounded familiar
[03:10] <dutch> unop: true. i need to change my video driver back to basic "nv", since it stopped working when i used proprietary drivers
[03:11] <zsquareplusc> GodfatherofEire1: yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set
[03:11] <n8tuser> usser i didnt know he aint got xserver running
[03:11] <unop> dutch, again, that's something to be done in xorg.conf
[03:11] <GeminiK> hello all, I broke the login somehow by creating a new user, now when I boot all I get is background color and mouse. I think I messed up my session, how can I reset it to default?
[03:12] <hmw> dutch: you could add:    SubSe
[03:13] <Windsurfer619> unop: So how would I go about limiting the nautilus process in Ubuntu?
[03:13] <dicipulus> Can someone point me to a good tutorial to troubleshoot a test network in virtual box? I can ping the tap0 gateway from tap1 and vice versa (and get to the wild and wooly internet) but can't get a ping to go beyond the tap gateways to ping my hosts.
[03:14] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: ctrl+alt+f1 should give you a text console to log in. then check with ls -la if all the files in your home folder belong to you and not to root.
[03:14] <RITN> how do i kill a borked x session messing up my display
[03:14] <RITN> i have command line access
[03:14] <RITN> usually i rename the xorg.conf and restart.
[03:14] <RITN> but i just need to kill the session in process.
[03:14] <zsquareplusc> RITN: ctrl+alt+backspace kills the X server (LOOSING ALL CHANGES/open programms)
[03:15] <RITN> its not working
[03:15] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: ill check, brb
[03:15] <RITN> i tried startx
[03:15] <Juhaz> RITN, the process is Xorg
[03:15] <RITN> kill -?
[03:15] <unop> Windsurfer619,  you set the appropriate limits in one of your startup files ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc  (but be careful, you need to allow sufficient resources or some apps will refuse to load or behave mysteriously)
[03:15] <RITN> whats the syntax?
[03:15] <Armageddon00> Hi, how do I stop apt-get from automatically pulling the suggested packages when I install something.   That's almost what I want. But that would limit my total system resources, right? I just want to limit the "nautilus" process. My other apps are fine.
[03:16] <darkdeeper> RITN, what are u trying to do?
[03:16] <zsquareplusc> darkdeeper: yes it kills it. all programs using that display will terminate. tht it gets restarted is not the property of X but of gdb that launched it
[03:17] <zsquareplusc> s/gdb/gdm/
[03:17] <darkdeeper> oh okey
[03:18] <Juhaz> YMMV on how well that works anyway, sometimes when you've got X went crazy enough with messed up drivers or hardware, killing it will just lock up the whole machine.
[03:18] <unop> Windsurfer619, it would affect all apps that _you_ start (not those of the system) - if you want to set limits for nautilus, you might have to start nautilus using a sub-shell or a wrapper script i.e. a script in your ~/bin/  called nautilus that sets the limit and then calls /usr/bin/nautilus
[03:19] <Windsurfer619> unop: Ah! That's a good idea. Thanks!
[03:19] <unop> Windsurfer619, you'll have to ensure that ~/bin is in your PATH too tho
[03:19] <vul_jonmo> hello
[03:19] <Windsurfer619> unop: Can I not just move the normal /bin/nautilus to /bin/nautilus2, and put a script in it's old place?
[03:19] <n8tuser> Windsurfer619-> why do you even want to limit nautilus resources?  and which resource do you want limited?
[03:20] <Windsurfer619> n8tuser: Nautilus is great, but it keeps having a 100MB/s memory leak when it encounters a picture that it can't thumbnail. It's a known bug.
[03:20] <Armageddon00> Ok here's an easier question, where is there extensive documentation on the apt configuration files?  The man page `apt_preferences(5)` is useless in that respect.
[03:20] <unop> Windsurfer619, you could, but I wouldn't if I were you - I prefer keeping things in standard locations
[03:21] <Windsurfer619> unop: Okay :)
[03:21] <n8tuser> Windsurfer619-> 100MB/s  ? a transferring of file?
[03:21] <unop> Windsurfer619, also, it defeats the point of keeping linux multi-user - other users wouldn't appreciate it
[03:21] <Windsurfer619> unop: Okay. Though, this is my laptop...
[03:22] <unop> Windsurfer619, extrapolate - if something should fail with your strategy, you can always log in as another user to rectify things, but if you make global changes - every user is affected and so you propgate the problem on.
[03:23] <Windsurfer619> unop: Okay, I see. Nifty!
[03:23] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: yeah some are root, by the way how do us scrol up in terminal?
[03:23] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: shift+pageup
[03:23] <Windsurfer619> GeminiK: Shift+pageUp
[03:23] <GeminiK> ah thx
[03:23] <senor_rudy> WiFi question > AG WAP, will turning A off improve performance like turning off B on a BG router?
[03:24] <darkdeeper> eveything i try to play my cd.. its give me acess denied.any idea?
[03:24] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: maybe one of these files are the problem. you should probably chown them back to your user
[03:25] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: yea, don't see why any of them should be root either, so how would I do that?
[03:25] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: chown $USER.$USER file(s)
[03:26] <hmw> GeminiK: chown <username> <filename>
[03:26] <GeminiK> alright brb
[03:26] <hmw> GeminiK: and chgrp <user> <file> (done as root)
[03:26] <hmw> GeminiK: chgrp <group> <file> *g*
[03:26] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: you probably used sudo for a gui application that wrote these. that is what gksudo would solve
[03:27] <blendroid> I'm trying to customize my Ubuntu "start menu" icon, and I've gone to the .icons folder (starting Naultilus from the command line as administrator), but there isn't anything visible.  Might anyone know how to solve this?
[03:27] <darkdeeper> what the difrent between using sudo and gksudo?
[03:27] <zsquareplusc> hmw: with the "." or ":" you can save the chgrp command call :-)
[03:28] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: ah ok gksudo prevents root files in home?
[03:28] <zsquareplusc> !gksudo
[03:28] <hmw> zsquareplusc: then i had to remind, which comes first, user or group. i always mix that up *g*
[03:28] <zsquareplusc> hmw: user.group the same order you see in ls -l :-)
[03:29] <hmw> zsquareplusc: that helped. now i will probably keep it im my lousy brain *G*
[03:29] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: well ill use chown on files brb
[03:31] <Guest82883> Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:31] <Guest82883> hi >.<
[03:31]  * Vandalism_dstryr slaps Guest82883 around a bit with a large trout
[03:31] <Guest82883> eeeek
[03:31] <blendroid> Would anyone know why I'm not able to view the contents of the .icons folder?
[03:31] <hmw> blendroid: do you see the folder, but empty, or dont you see the folder itself?
[03:32] <Geoff_> Hey, I've got some problems with Ubuntu. It keeps freezing anytime it seems to have run a few too many processes or something like that.
[03:32] <blendroid> it just appears empty
[03:32] <Geoff_> Like it freezes completely, the mouse doesn't move or anything.
[03:32] <hmw> Geoff_: check your temperatures
[03:32] <Guest82883> hit the mouse with a hammer
[03:32] <Guest82883> it should do it
[03:32] <Guest82883> like BAM BAM BAM! ya know
[03:32] <Guest82883> just like in flingstones
[03:33] <hmw> Guest82883: for fun talk, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic. this is a support channel. thanks
[03:33] <Guest82883> bam bam
[03:33] <Guest82883> fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine hmw
[03:33] <Geoff_> How do I check my temperatures?
[03:33] <Guest82883> but i came here cuz i got a question
[03:33] <Armageddon00> Geoff_: I'd bit there's a file in /proc that may have that data.
[03:34]  * DEdwards suggests kicking Guest82883
[03:34] <Armageddon00> s/bit/bet/
[03:34] <hmw> Geoff_: reboot, go to BIOS and check temp there. Be quick, hardware cools down quite fast
[03:34] <blendroid> hmw: it's visible, but appears empty (in case you didn't see my earlier reply)
[03:34] <zsquareplusc> sensors-applet
[03:34] <Geoff_> Alright. Does it make a difference that I run the computer on Windows without any problems like overheating as well?
[03:34] <hmw> blendroid: sorry, i saw your respones, but I dont know whats up. Try to look into that folder via the terminal to check, if its really empty
[03:34] <blendroid> hmw: oh, ok
[03:35] <hmw> Geoff_: that makes a temp. problem much less likely
[03:35] <DEdwards> Geoff_, what are the general specs of your machine?
[03:35] <Guest82883> im experiencing some problems with youtube videos. I can view videos when I open up youtube but after a while the video goes blank but sound's good. Now.. I've asked this question before here and was told to download non-free flash version which I did but didn't help at all. And I searched the web and found that Im not alooooone >.<
[03:35] <zsquareplusc> Geoff_: does i have a software controlled fan that doesnt run /run a s fast in linux than in windoze?
[03:35] <hmw> Geoff_: is there a pattern behind your crahses? certain apps running? 3D apps maybe?
[03:35] <Elliotw2> Hey, where are the modelines stored?
[03:36] <Elliotw2> Anyone?
[03:36] <russ5811> im new to ubuntu. do i need a firewall? antivirus?
[03:36] <Elliotw2> russ5811, no
[03:36] <Guest82883> nah man
[03:36] <zsquareplusc> Elliotw2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:36] <DEdwards> russ5811, no
[03:36] <Elliotw2> Well, a firewall
[03:36] <hmw> Elliotw2: i think they belong to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <Elliotw2> zsquareplusc, not in 8.10 from what I've heard
[03:37] <Guest82883> ubuntu has all the vaccines it needs
[03:37] <russ5811> thanks. i've heard conflicting info about the firewall
[03:37] <Armageddon00> ... WHY is emacs22 a dependency for the GNU Lisp Compiler, for the love of God, why?
[03:37] <LF|Irssi> youtube works fine for me, only thing i can never get working are CNN videos :/
[03:37] <cooldude> no firewall needed for 8.10?
[03:37] <Elliotw2> Why do you care? Emacs ios like 10kb
[03:37] <Guest82883> that's weird.
[03:37] <hmw> Elliotw2: you CAN use them still
[03:37] <zsquareplusc> Elliotw2: if you wan to add lines i think you still do them there. but nowdays X calcualtes these internally, so normally you dont have to write them manually somewhere
[03:37] <hmw> Elliotw2: in one case, my FGLRX ignored them though
[03:37] <LF|Irssi> !virus
[03:38] <Elliotw2> Ok, thank you for helping me help someone
[03:38] <Elliotw2> Now have fun with your mess of a Distro
[03:38] <russ5811> danke ubottu
[03:38] <usser> cooldude, ubuntu has firewall, iptables.
[03:38] <hmw> russ5811: ubottu is a bot *ggg*
[03:38] <Armageddon00> Elliotw2: Because I don't need/want Emacs.  I don't see why I need any more reasoning than that, unless there is some vital component of Emacs that allows gcl to compile my lisp source.
[03:38] <cooldude13233> o.O
[03:38] <Guest82883> so i guess no one here knows how to fix my youtube problem?
[03:39] <cooldude> Oh is it enabled by default?
[03:39] <cooldude13233> someone higlighted me?
[03:39] <Armageddon00> Guest82883: You need to describe your problem better.
 cooldude, ubuntu has firewall, iptables.
[03:39] <anarchman1> hi, my friend is trying to install ubuntu 8.10, but the install is ending up at a command prompt at the end, any suggestions on how to boot into the gui?
[03:39] <hmw> Guest82883: i tried to figure something out, but no result so far. I just hate that flash plugin thing, too.
[03:39] <Kanzar> ouch, grud
[03:39] <usser> cooldude, yep
[03:39] <cooldude13233> ya i seen from my Growl notifier
[03:39] <Armageddon00> anarchman1: `startx`? (no quotes of course)
[03:39] <anarchman1> or anyone know why an install of 8.10 would leave you at the GUI and the end?
[03:39] <cooldude13233> i am on a Mac
[03:39] <cooldude13233> and my Client is Linkinus
[03:39] <hmw> Guest82883: is it always the same amount of time? (yes --> sounds like buffer overflow or something)
[03:39] <anarchman1> Armageddon00 he tried startx and got some errors
[03:40] <cooldude13233> and i get notifications that people highlighted me
[03:40] <cooldude13233> so ya
[03:40] <Guest82883> ubuntu works on Mac's too?
[03:40] <Guest82883> awesome!
[03:40] <ziroday> Guest35047: yes
[03:40] <Armageddon00> anarchman1: post them to a paste-bin or something and send the link our way.
[03:40] <cooldude13233> yep Guest82883
[03:40] <Odd-rationale> anarchman1: have him login to the console and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[03:40] <cooldude13233> it works on either Paralells, or VM Ware
[03:40] <anarchman1> Armag... ok might try that in a minute
[03:40] <ssmy> Guest82883: ever since the intel switch Macs are just standard computers.
[03:40] <CapaH> How can I see whether or not AppArmor or SELinux is installed/active ?
[03:40] <cooldude13233> idk on BootCamp
[03:40] <anarchman1> Odd-rationale: ok ill have him give that a try
[03:41] <Guest82883> ah i see
[03:41] <cooldude13233> this room is freaking busy holy crap
[03:41] <RITN> hrm
[03:41] <cooldude13233> 1,000 people in here everyday, sheesh
[03:41] <Geoff_> I don't know if I have a software controlled fan. I don't know how to check that, but it seems to crash anytime I get to doing anything like downloading updates from online, or simply using Firefox a little bit. Like, I'm still back on 8.04.
[03:41] <Guest82883> ya cooldude
[03:41] <zsquareplusc> nah it wasnt so low for a long time ;-)
[03:41] <Kanzar> ah, all the torrent clients which report open ports don't have the features I want :(
[03:41] <Armageddon00> CapaH: Have you tried `ps` and searching for the application there?
[03:41]  * Kanzar goes back to trying azureus
[03:41] <cooldude> includeing you...lol
[03:41] <hmw> cooldude13233: thats why they dont like smalltalk in here
[03:41] <RITN> im getting "screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section" on my custom xorg.conf
[03:41] <RITN> dual head.
[03:41] <CapaH> Armageddon00, Yes I do not see it - or selinux
[03:42] <cooldude13233> lol hmw
[03:42] <CapaH> but one is active :)
[03:42] <Pici> !offtopic
[03:42] <Armageddon00> CapaH: Odd..
[03:42] <Odd-rationale> we need 7 more people to make it 1337
[03:42] <RITN> anyone help?
[03:42] <fdasse> hi
[03:42] <fdasse> anyone with elive ?
[03:42] <phig> Hi...sound stops to work suddenly in 8.10...
[03:42] <LF|Irssi> ut oh the ops are waking up all the "!OT" "!offtopic" commands are flying left and right now lol
[03:42] <Armageddon00> CapaH: Perhaps the name is not what you'd expect
[03:42] <hmw> RITN: depends. what adapter do you have?
[03:42]  * LF|Irssi hides
[03:43] <RITN> hmw: i have 2.  agp, and pci
[03:43] <RITN> the agp one works atm.
[03:43] <CapaH> Armageddon00, I found it in dmesg
[03:43] <CapaH> AppArmor
[03:43] <RITN> pci is screen 1
[03:43] <RITN> if i start it only the agp works
[03:43] <hmw> RITN: then youre ... . Uh, I mean, what exactly? (i have a similar setup and it was hard to get it up)
[03:43] <phig> I have already search in foruns but I cant fix it
[03:43] <blendroid> how do I display the contents of a folder in the terminal? (sorry, I'm googling all I can, but it's not turning up answers...)
[03:43] <russ5811> as an inexperienced user, using the box primarily for media (dvds and such), web, and P2P, am I likely to inadvertently open ports thus creating an in for an attack?
[03:44] <RITN> hmw: let me post the file somewhere.  do you have a preference?
[03:44] <Odd-rationale> blendroid: ls
[03:44] <blendroid> thanks
[03:44] <DiiPhantom> when i open a program from the terminal, i want it to stay open Even if i close the terminal
[03:44] <hmw> pastebin.com
[03:44] <RITN> 1 sec
[03:44] <Odd-rationale> blendroid: i suggest reading through http://linuxcommand.org
[03:44] <Armageddon00> CapaH: Did it crash?  Try doing something app armor wouldn't approve of.  (within reason...)
[03:44] <usser> DiiPhantom, nohup programname &
[03:44] <Guest82883> join #ubuntu-off-topic
[03:44] <blendroid> thanks again :)
[03:44] <Jason_> I may have found the cause of the vino performance issue with vino. It seems like a Xorg bug.  After removing my monitor, the resolution on :0 was set to 1280x800, the same as VNC, and CPU usage while using VNC was near 0%. After restaring, Xorg reverted to 800x600 because there was no display and the performance issues returned (50%+ CPU usage at 800x600). I tried changing the resolution through the screen res tool in gnome but as I ha
[03:44] <Jason_> ve no monitor it won't let me. Anyone run into this before? Can I just force a resolution in xorg.conf?
[03:44] <DiiPhantom> huh?
[03:44] <DiiPhantom> ohh i get it
[03:44] <Guest82883> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:45] <Guest82883> its not working
[03:45] <hmw> Guest82883: it is "/join ..."
[03:45] <Buntai> hello all...any converter convert rmvb file into other format?
[03:45] <Odd-rationale> DiiPhantom: append the command with &. e.g. firefox &
[03:45] <Buntai> !converter
[03:45] <phig> My soudn does not work...just a weird noise
[03:45] <Guest82883> oopsie daisy.. thanks
[03:45] <Guest82883> cheers!
[03:46] <Buntai> i want to format rmvb file to other file format..like mpeg wmv etc..any solution?idea?
[03:46] <DiiPhantom> Odd-rationale: it doesnt work, it opens the program but then if i close the terminal it shuts
[03:46] <Buntai> i want to convert format rmvb file to other file format..like mpeg wmv etc..any solution?idea?
[03:46] <RITN> http://pastebin.com/d26063393
[03:46] <Odd-rationale> Buntai: maybe try http://media-convert.net/
[03:46] <zsquareplusc> Buntai: maybe ffmpeg or mencoder
[03:46] <RITN> check it out please hmw
[03:46] <Buntai> ok
[03:46] <Geoff_> Alright, to restate my problem, I have a dualboot system with Microsoft Windows Professional and Ubuntu 8.04 installed on a HP Pavilion 7935 with an upgraded 1GB of memory. For some reason, it keeps freezing after about 5-20 minutes depending if I do anything somewhat demanding like getting online, where I can surf for a little while, and then the computer freezes. When it freezes, I have no response whatsoever, like the mouse
[03:46] <russ5811> mencoder will do it
[03:46] <hmw> i am on it. but that was 30 seconds.
[03:47] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: well it didn't work, I might have done something with the sessions
[03:47] <Buntai> thanks zsquareplusc
[03:47] <Buntai> thanks Odd-rationale
[03:47] <Buntai> :)
[03:47] <RITN> ?
[03:47] <Odd-rationale> DiiPhantom: it should work... anther thing you can do is run the program normally, then press ctrl+z, the enter "bg"
[03:47] <Odd-rationale> DiiPhantom: from the terminal
[03:47] <Armageddon00> If anyone was wondering, I determined that emacs22 being a dependency of gcl is a bug.  Bah.
[03:48] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: next step would eb moving the .gnome and such folder away. this would make the applications start up with the defaults again (w/o the need to create a new user)
[03:48] <LF|Irssi> xemacs ftw
[03:49] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: ok, cp .gnome .gnome-bkup then rm .gnome right?
[03:49] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: or use mv for move
[03:49] <likano> .cl
[03:49] <LF|Irssi> Armageddon00: you can try installing xemacs , unless ubuntu is like FreeBSD in that you cannot install emacs and xemacs on the same time, or at least i cant get it to do that :)
[03:49] <hmw> RITN: looks very ok to me, but i dont know nvidia drivers. In my case, the "correct" setup just didnt work out.
[03:50] <Kanzar> ok, I'm trying to set up azureus udp/tcp port to 16292, test at http://www.utorrent.com/testport.php?port=16292 says it's clear, but i get an NAT error in azureus tester - does anyone have any idea?
[03:50] <CapaH> Does anyone here know if you reload apparmor -- does it cause any running apps which have an apparmor to stop functioning in any way? Can someone describe to me what happens exactly if you reload apparmor's profiles to the applications running?
[03:50] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: k hope it works
[03:50] <RITN> can you pastebin yours?
[03:50] <RITN> can someone help me??
[03:50] <RITN> xorg dual monitor agp pci
[03:51] <mxweas> Does anyone know if broadcom's wl driver that now comes with intrepid ibex can be patched to allow monitor mode?
[03:51] <xxuriahxx> greetings, what is the best software to use for streaming vids via the xbox 360
[03:51] <RITN> media center
[03:51] <RITN> or tversity
[03:51] <RITN> dont know about linux
[03:51] <RITN> or if tversity works on linux.
[03:52] <hmw> RITN: uhm. I just deleted it accidently (resetup my workstation). The only things, that were strange here (FGLRX) was the frequenca for screen 1 had to be an Option "Horiz2" and "Vsync2" in Secion for Device 0. My conf didnt look much different than yours. Its possible, that your driver is just crap. :( google or ask someone else in here.
[03:52] <RITN> look and let me know.
[03:53] <Geoff_> I have a problem. I have a dualboot system with Microsoft Windows Professional and Ubuntu 8.04 installed on an HP Pavilion 7935 with an upgraded 1GB of memory. For some reason, it keeps freezing after about 5-20 minutes depending if I do anything somewhat demanding like getting online, where I can surf for a little while, and then the computer freezes. When it freezes, I have no response whatsoever, like the mouse doesn't even
[03:53] <Jason_> so, how can I change the resolution of my primary screen when I have no monitor?
[03:53] <Jason_> it's a headless server
[03:53] <hmw> RITN: do you try to use compiz?
[03:53] <mxweas> Jason_ set up vnc maybe
[03:53] <Jason_> but i want Xorg for vnc
[03:53] <mxweas> or maybe you can ssh in and change kde/gdm settings
[03:53] <RITN> whats that hmw ?
[03:53] <zsquareplusc> Jason_: vncserver -geom 1280x1024 -depth 32
[03:53] <ziroday> Geoff_: that is a kernel panic. What network card do you have?
[03:53] <xxuriahxx> greetings, what is the best software to use for streaming vids via the xbox 360
[03:53] <sinuc> canz you use xforwards with ssh?
[03:54] <mee> i just installed mythbuntu, can anyone tell me how to watch tv now
[03:54] <ziroday> xxuriahxx: ask in ##windows
[03:54] <Jason_> mxweas, yeah, I did that and VNC allows me to set the resolution. Vino doesn't - and that seems to be the cause of the Xorg CPU issue I'm having (50-100% CPU at 800x600 versus 5-10% with realvnc at 1280x800)
[03:54] <mee> i have a hauppage wintv hvr 950q
[03:54] <xxuriahxx> im using ubuntu
[03:54] <hmw> RITN: nevermind. composition window manager, cool 3D desktop cube. Makes triple (and also dual-)head impossible on my machine. :(
[03:54] <RITN> i dont think thats going to help
[03:54] <mee> when i press "watch tv" nothing happens
[03:54] <ziroday> mee: ask in #mythbuntu. Have you configured the tv card?
[03:54] <xxuriahxx> y would i be asking in windows
[03:54] <zsquareplusc> Jason_: if you want to change it for display 0, export DISPLAY=:0 and use ssh -X from an other box that has an X server
[03:54] <sinuc> mee: did you told the application which chipset it is you have there?
[03:54] <Jason_> zsquareplusc, i have realvnc set up, thanks. I was asking about vino. I'm curious as to whether I can use vino.
[03:54] <ziroday> xxuriahxx: what would you ask here, its a xbox?
[03:54] <hmw> RITN: post the log from your x server to pastebin
[03:54] <mee> ziroday how do you configure the tv card
[03:54] <mxweas> Does anyone know if broadcom's wl driver that now comes with intrepid ibex can be patched to allow monitor mode?
[03:54] <myk_robinson> having an odd issue with Rhythmbox adding false duplicates of each new track introduced.. Any fix for this?
[03:55] <diecastmessiah> Hailz all
[03:55] <hyde> what's the name for console irc client in ubuntu?
[03:55] <mee> sinuc how do you do that
[03:55] <ziroday> mee: did you go into the mythbuntu control center?
[03:55] <ziroday> hyde: irssi
[03:55] <Pici> hyde: irssi is one
[03:55] <hyde> thanks
[03:55] <xxuriahxx> well my box runs linux
[03:55] <Jason_> zsquareplusc, thanks