[12:03] <rhendrix> i checked the forums, but no luck
[12:15] <jahshua> anyone here ??
[12:15] <jahshua> my firefox keeps crashing
[12:15] <flosoft> hey ... how do I put up a server that I can connect via this Remote Logon in KDM? is it an nx-server?
[12:16] <lwizardl> djk_: yes my system can't boot to cdrom
[12:16] <djk_> !smartboot
[12:16] <ubotu> smartboot is, like, totally, If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:17] <lwizardl> gives "disk error! 0xaa
[12:19] <apokryphos> [23:18:56]  <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: very easily. Just keep ubuntu-artwork-splash (and don't install kubuntu-artwork-splash)
[12:19] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Hey
[12:19] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Ok
[12:19] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: also, make sure you install kde 3.5 -- you have to add the extra repository. See /topic
[12:19] <apokryphos> ok, really gotta go -- back later.
[12:19] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Ok
[12:19] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Thanks for your help
[12:19] <lwizardl> djk_: mind helping me with the sbm
[12:20] <djk_> lwizardl: well, i haven't used it myself
[12:20] <lwizardl> ah
[12:20] <djk_> but i suppose you could try other bootfloppies which let you boot your cddrive
[12:22] <lwizardl> can a dos bootdisk be used ?
[12:22] <psyk> hey how do i get a bittorrent client thing
[12:22] <psyk> so i can download torrents?
[12:23] <lwizardl> psyk: google
[12:23] <metellius> azureus
[12:23] <psyk> or find documentation on apt get
[12:23] <metellius> documentation is always found in the man-pages
[12:23] <metellius> try man apt-get
[12:25] <jahshua> hi i need help with a firefox error
[12:26] <jahshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6132
[12:26] <jahshua> there it is
[12:27] <jahshua> firefox keeps crashing.. it seems to only happen with myspace.com   ..also earlier a 'winfixer' dialog box popped up asking me to click yes.. so i killed firefox in ps x and rebooted
[12:27] <djk_> why did you kill ff and reboot? scared of a popup?
[12:28] <jahshua> winfixer is a virus
[12:28] <jahshua> i wasent sure what to do :(
[12:28] <djk_> and...
[12:28] <jahshua> dont really know what you want me to say
[12:28] <jahshua> im asking for help here
[12:30] <djk_> well, i'd like to know where you got your virus knowledge from and why you're afraid of a popup ;)
[12:31] <jahshua> im afraid of winfixer not a popup
[12:31] <jahshua> heh
[12:31] <flosoft> hey ... how do I put up a server that I can connect via this Remote Logon in KDM? is it an nx-server?
[12:31] <jahshua> i was on windows up until a week ago
[12:31] <Kibou> as long it's not linfixer
[12:31] <jahshua> and i have o idea if i can even GET winfixer virus onto my system on linux
[12:31] <jahshua> o=no
[12:33] <slow-motion> n8
[12:34] <Evil_Whisper> Hi guys
[12:34] <Evil_Whisper> I heard there is a composite manager in KDE where would I find that?
[12:35] <Kibou> kcontrol -> desktop -> window behavior -> translucency
[12:35] <flosoft> hey ... how do I put up a server that I can connect via this Remote Logon in KDM? is it an nx-server?
[12:37] <Evil_Whisper> thanks Kibou it doesn't seem to be working though
[12:38] <Kibou> do you have the composite stuff in your xonrg.conf?
[12:39] <Kibou> xorg*
[12:39] <Evil_Whisper> oh you have to add it to the xorg.conf as well?
[12:39] <Evil_Whisper> I'm used to using xcompmgr in gnome  :S
[12:39] <Evil_Whisper> kate keeps crashing :(
[12:40] <Kibou> well.. you have to add certain things to the xorg.conf.. but if it worked in gnome you might already have it there
[12:40] <Kibou> you might have to re-login into kde to get it work
[12:40] <flosoft> hey ... how do I put up a server that I can connect via this Remote Logon in KDM? is it an nx-server?
[12:41] <flosoft> hey ... how do I put up a server that I can connect via this Remote Logon in KDM? is it an nx-server?  pls ... anyone
[01:07] <Knowerrors> Any people here that have Midi working?  I do but am looking to improve performance for playback, uses way too much cpu
[01:24] <knoppix_> Gello
[01:24] <knoppix_> oops
[01:24] <knoppix_> Hello
[01:24] <rhendrix> hey
[01:24] <knoppix_> Merry CHristmas !!
[01:25] <rhendrix> you too
[01:25] <knoppix_> Hey, guys. How do I setup Printer in KDE ?
[01:25] <rhendrix> where are you is it already x-mas there
[01:25] <rhendrix> well not to sure i've never tried
[01:25] <apokryphos> GMT, yup
[01:25] <knoppix_> I am using knoppix BTY.. but I am asuming that it is the same as Kubuntu....    maube it isn't
[01:25] <rhendrix> cool
[01:25] <knoppix_> I am in the US
[01:25] <rhendrix> mountain time America not there yet
[01:26] <rhendrix> what printer are you using
[01:26] <knoppix_> I am ussing HP officejet 6110 all in one
[01:27] <knoppix_> Sorry fopr my typos. I can't see well. The font in X chat is too small
[01:27] <jahshua> if my screen scrolls off in te bash shell how do i get back to the top ??
[01:27] <rhendrix> did you search the HP sight for linux drivers? I know HP is not to good with linux sometimes
[03:55] (treakath/#kubuntu) jahshua have you got msn
[03:55] (jahshua/#kubuntu) no
[03:55] (jahshua/#kubuntu) i use kopete
[03:55] (jahshua/#kubuntu) for aol
[03:55] <gverig1> Is there a way to add applications to startup other then ~/.kde/Autostart script (some way through System Settings or something)?
[03:56] <treakath> yea its the same
[03:56] <troy> gverig1: you want the app to start before X loads?
[03:56] <troy> or after...
[03:56] <jahshua> treakath was that for me?
[03:56] <treakath> yea
[03:56] <jahshua> both ports yeh? 1025 and 1026
[03:57] <gverig1> troy: No, just same as on W-platform (I won't curse here). Kopette, Akregator, etc
[03:57] <jahshua> k and this is listed as well, dunno what it is tcp        0      0 localhost.localdoma:ipp *:*                     LISTEN
[03:57] <treakath> kk
[03:57] <jahshua> ipp?
[03:57] <troy> jahshua: that's port 631 (cups) which we discussed before
[03:57] <jahshua> ah ok
[03:57] <jahshua> thanks
[03:58] <jahshua> how do you tell
[03:58] <jahshua> heh
[03:58] <troy> jahshua: add "-n" to the command line, and it'll list numbers instead of acronyms
[03:58] <gverig1> troy: It's not hard to do Autostart (btw, it is a directory in Kubuntu, so I guess I just need to put symlinks there). I just though it would be something that can be done through IDE
[03:58] <troy> well, you can change the location of that Autostart folder if you want, to make it easier to get to
[03:58] <jahshua> ahhh excellent
[03:59] <troy> that's pretty simple
[04:00] <gverig1> troy: :) It's not that I can't do this, I just wanted to know if there is IDE-way
[04:00] <troy> not really no - no "Start Up" folder in the start menu, if that's what you want -- or msconfig equivalent
[04:01] <gverig1> troy: BTW, how do I "save" a session (in session manager there are 3 settings- start new, restore previous and restore saved)?
[04:02] <gverig1> troy: Actually, startup folder in start menu might work. How do I move Autostart?
[04:02] <troy> kcontrol->System Admin.->Paths
[04:03] <troy> I'd actually suggest putting it on your desktop however
[04:03] <troy> you'll have trouble putting it into the menu
[04:05] <troy> once there, you can just open the folder, right-click on the background->New->Link to Application -- that should work nicely
[04:06] <gverig1> troy: Thanks.
[04:06] <troy> don't know about the session thing
[04:06] <gverig1> troy: I will try to just put a symlink on my desktop into current Autostart
[04:06] <troy> that'd work too
[04:07] <gverig1> troy: BTW, I can't find paths in System Settings. It is kcontrol, right?
[04:07] <gverig1> troy: ahhh, never mind, found it
[04:08] <troy> system settings is a kubuntu kcontrol replacement, however 'kcontrol' still exists, and I use it regularly
[04:08] <troy> system settings has the most common settings in it
[04:09] <troy> I'm not actually convinced that the interface to System Settings is any better than kcontrol - if anything, it seems like a poorly implemented version of MacOSX's settings
[04:09] <gverig1> troy: I see. Thank you sir. I will try to make it work...
[04:10] <gverig1> troy: I like kcontrol better actually.
[04:10] <troy> the search thing is really effective in kcontrol -- just typing 'autostart' gives you the module you need
[04:17] <gverig1> troy: OK, testing...
[04:18] <gverig1> troy: Thanks! Worked like a charm Just dragged and dropped from application menu
[04:22] <gverig1> Is there a standard option to start applications minimized (or in taskbar only)?
[04:24] <troy> gverig1: there is the "kstart" command, use "kstart --help" for details
[04:25] <troy> that's the only thing I can think of
[04:31] <mrmarcel> gn8
[04:43] <jahshua> when i check my music folder in terminal there is one song that is hidden, it doesnt show up with ls why is that
[04:44] <thoreauputic> does the filename start with  a dot ?  eg .song.ogg  or whatever
[04:44] <thoreauputic> try ls -al for a full listing
[04:47] <jahshua> yes it shows up then
[04:47] <jahshua> there is also two more hidden ones
[04:47] <jahshua> no names tho
[04:47] <jahshua> just one blue .
[04:48] <jahshua> then two blue ..
[04:49] <troy> those ones you can ignore "." means current directory, ".." means parent directory
[04:49] <jahshua> ok
[04:49] <jahshua> i am here joshua@toon:~/music/nerd raps$    but cd music  wont bring me back down to music
[04:50] <troy> you should likely rename that hidden song to something that doesn't start with a '.' anymore.... mv oldname.mp3 newname.mp3
[04:50] <troy> jahshua: cd .. will
[04:50] <troy> like I said, ".." is the parent directory
[04:50] <troy> it's the same in windows
[04:50] <jahshua> ahh right
[04:51] <jahshua> i dont see a . before the name on the file
[05:08] <jdef> hi all
[05:09] <jdef> i have a problem I need some assistance with
[05:09] <troy> fire away - if one of us can help, we will
[05:10] <jdef> tried to upgrade from breezy preview to final after updates I boot and get stuck at checking battery state
[05:11] <jdef> any ideas anyone
[05:12] <troy> I'd see what I can figure out using the live-cd - boot it up and chroot to the hard-disk - maybe rerun apt-get install
[05:12] <troy> etc.
[05:13] <troy> that's probably where I'd start, and that failing, I'd probably just backup /home, etc. and install clean
[05:13] <jdef> only happened after update, after update both the old and new kernel are screwed
[05:13] <troy> there may be a better option though :)
[05:14] <jdef> looked at forums seems to be a common problem but no solution provided
[05:46] <jahshua> whats command for traceroute
[05:46] <jahshua> in bash
[05:47] <thoreauputic> traceroute, funnily enough :)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> aha - traceroute6
[05:47] <thoreauputic> what a stupid change :/
[05:49] <thoreauputic> heh - good idea :)
[05:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[05:49] <thoreauputic> what possessed them to chage a standard command like that one ?
[05:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. you have to wonder sometimes
[05:50] <thoreauputic> :|
[05:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: do you know an os that will run on a Mac SE? i heard netbsd might
[05:52] <crimsun> use tracepath instead.
[05:53] <crimsun> (not traceroute6)
[05:53] <crimsun> note that tracepath has a v6 counterpart
[05:53] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: don't know, sorry
[05:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. thoreauputic.
[05:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> crimsun: is tracepath newer?
[05:53] <crimsun> yes
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, it's working :O cool
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm 4 hops from internodes mirrors :D
[06:43] <belboz> VMware question?  Does VMware have any problems with the KDE-based Kubuntu rather than Gnome-ubuntu??  Thanks!
[06:46] <Hobbsee> i wouldnt expect so, but i've never tried either...
[06:46] <bam_> what is a good web site duplicator?
[07:05] <can-o-worms> can someone tell me what gui will show me how much space is used on a local hard disk?
[07:08] <Hobbsee> can-o-worms: are you on kde 3.5 or still 3.4.2?
[07:09] <can-o-worms> Hobbsee: i dunno, i just installed breezy, what does it come with?
[07:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> 342
[07:09] <Hobbsee> use kinfocentre then
[07:10] <Hobbsee> partitions, i think
[07:11] <can-o-worms> fair enough, it gives you a nice output from df
[07:12] <can-o-worms> i was hoping for something a little more graphical
[07:12] <can-o-worms> i have to give this computer to a moron
[07:12] <bam_> anyone know how I can get cron to run scripts(all) under a specific folder?
[07:14] <Hobbsee> can-o-worms: i think there are others - just not sure what they are...
[07:15] <xenex> I don't know if I should switch to Kubuntu or stay with Ubuntu, anyone want to tell me pros and cons about Kubuntu
[07:15] <can-o-worms> i just use df -h too, but like i said i have to give this computer to an idiot
[07:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> xenex: it's realy a matter of if you prefer KDE or not
[07:16] <can-o-worms> i usually don't even use kde
[07:16] <xenex> hrm
[07:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> xenex: do you prefer simple layout that should 'just work', or do you want to modify it a lot?
[07:17] <xenex> 1st one
[07:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> stick with Gnome
[07:17] <xenex> mmkay
[07:17] <xenex> well wait
[07:17] <xenex> what do you mean by modifying?
[07:18] <bam_> I am looking for a web site duplicator, any ideas?
[07:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol Hobbsee
[07:18] <Hobbsee> 1.4 gig left!
[07:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> xenex: loads of options for everything basicly
[07:18] <xenex> hmm
[07:19] <xenex> whatever ill just stick with the roots, ubuntu
[07:19] <xenex> i only like gnome because of clearlooks
[07:19] <xenex> ;x
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[07:20] <Hobbsee> yeah, with clearlooks
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> i like Gnome because i add a few widgest (like more desktops) and it works for me
[07:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> strait off the bat
[07:20] <can-o-worms> ok... you use kdiskfree
[07:21] <can-o-worms> bam_: wget ?
[07:21] <bam_> it can grab 2 links deeP?
[07:21] <treakath> hi
[07:21] <Hobbsee> hi
[07:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi treakath
[07:22] <can-o-worms> bam_: it was sort of a joke, but it will grab everything if you set it to recursive
[07:22] <can-o-worms> bam_: if you want something more specific then use perl
[07:22] <xenex> Kamping_Kaiser: if gnome works from the beginning, why do they say KDE is more user-friendly and windows users?
[07:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> xenex: please don't ask me that :S
[07:23] <bam_> what I am really looking for is a good linux command reference I can put on my zaurus
[07:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> i hate the thinking behind it
[07:23] <xenex> haha
[07:23] <bam_> text format would be fine
[07:23] <can-o-worms> bam_: learn perl instead
[07:23] <xenex> Kamping_Kaiser: I blame Google. :P
[07:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[07:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> do it :)
[07:23] <treakath> how are u
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's up treakath :)
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> :|
[07:25] <can-o-worms> is there a file or a directory that i can back up that will save all the desktop settings, desktop icons and applets and stuff?
[07:26] <Hobbsee> ~/.kde
[07:26] <can-o-worms> Hobbsee: so that will do it.. cool, thanks
[07:30] <Hobbsee> save your entire home dir, really, if you want to keep all your settings..
[07:36] <troy> tar cvf abackup.tar /home/username
[07:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> use bzip :|
[07:38] <troy> I guess it all depends -- I don't bother since it takes time to bzip and I don't worry about space or bandwidth, etc.
[07:41] <Hobbsee> what's -j do?
[07:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> uses bzip compression
[07:43] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> (logical i know :D)
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> few hundred meg
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> 300 or so i would expect
[07:44] <Hobbsee> 525
[07:44] <Hobbsee> unpacked
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> so it must be 300 download . ta :)
[07:45] <troy> why does that seem like a lot?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> 107mb of archives
[07:45] <Hobbsee> cos it is a lot?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> ISO's only 700mb or so...
[07:45] <troy> the biggest thing in kde is the translations by far -- the rest isn't that large I don't think
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> but there's lots of KDE
[07:46] <troy> true
[07:46] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> 400m without the recomended stuff
[07:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[07:47] <troy> I had to install it on redhat 5, and I had a hell of a time getting my video card to display more than 16 colours :P
[07:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have a RH 5.2 cd somewhere *was going to play with it*
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder what's in Woody
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> *has a Woody box*
[07:49] <troy> 5.0 used a non-standard compiler, which broke compatibility with everything, including earlier and later redhat releases, and my video card only had binary drivers, so I struggled for an age to get it installed
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> i cant get x to start though :(
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> when has Red Hat ever used a standard compiler :|
[07:49] <Hobbsee> drat!  syncing them the wrong way!
[07:49] <troy> it didn't use gcc for that release
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> they still use 2.9blah
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee:  :(
[07:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh
[07:50] <Hobbsee> ok, should i have a ~/mozilla/ folder?
[07:51] <troy> they used egcs, a fork of gcc that left it incompatible -- sigh
[07:51] <Hobbsee> from a default firefox install?
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> troy: :(
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: i think so
[07:51] <Hobbsee> can you check?
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have one
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have firefox and thunderbird
[07:51] <Hobbsee> a /mozilla/ or a /.mozilla/?
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks like it's a firefox thing
[07:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> .mozilla
[07:54] <Hobbsee> right
[07:54] <Hobbsee> yeah, i have a folder called mozilla, which i think i copied over from a breezy install
[07:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> (which means i have to hack the cd so it mounts the usb doover as /home)
[07:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh ok
[07:55] <Hobbsee> i hope!
[07:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> :|
[07:58] <Hobbsee> i think!
[07:58] <Hobbsee> sheesh this is confusing lol!
[07:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> wait untill your using stuff symlinked off nfs mounted directories ;)
[07:59] <Hobbsee> eek!
[08:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> ew. yeh
[08:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> why are you syncing stuff?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> because i've got a whole heap of files on breezy home, and more on dapper home, and trying to figure out what is where is getting confusing!
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> share your docs, but the rest is a bit edgy
[08:09] <Hobbsee> lol
[08:10] <Hobbsee> well, i've copied from one to another without a problem, as long as i remove the dcop and ice authority files...
[08:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm interesting
[08:11] <freeflying_> how to rip dvd in kde
[08:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> dvd::rip, or dvdbackup are good (latter is cli)
[08:15] <can-o-worms> what start up scripts should i add that "echo 1024 .." mplayer line to?
[08:16] <crimsun> can-o-worms: /etc/sysctl.conf . Read the syntax there, and you'll see what to do.
[08:16] <can-o-worms> crimsun: thanks
[08:17] <Snake__> Hey guys, can anyone get DirectIM to work in GAIM??
[08:17] <Arsenal> Is it better to install ubuntu then kubuntu-desktop or can I just install kubuntu?
[08:17] <Snake__> if you Install ubuntu, then make sure you do a server install
[08:18] <Snake__> And then youll end up with the same thing as kubuntu
[08:18] <Snake__> Arsenal: ^^ Thats to you ^^
[08:19] <Arsenal> I don't ever use gnome, just KDE & fluxbox. Should I bother installing ubuntu?
[08:19] <Snake__> Just install kubuntu if you dont want to use gnome
[08:19] <Snake__> Then it will automaticly set you up with KDE, and you dont have to deal with the command line's kuubntu-desktop
[08:21] <Snake__> Can anyone help me? Please??
[08:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, no (havent tried)
[08:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> what is it?
[08:23] <Snake__> ??
[08:23] <koshbot> ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]
[08:23] <kinfo> what?
[08:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol wtf
[08:23] <Snake__> ...
[08:23] <Snake__> huh
[08:23] <Snake__> lol
[08:23] <Hobbsee> er, ok then
[08:24] <Snake__> I just need a program so that I can direct connect on AIM
[08:24] <Snake__> Because the debs on AIM's site wont download
[08:24] <Hobbsee> did AIM have a native linux client?
[08:24] <Snake__> Hobbsee: Yes, but the tgz doesn't work correctly, and the deb just opens up
[08:24] <Snake__> it doesn't save
[08:25] <Snake__> I tried "Right click, save as" but then that just saves me some BS file called "linker.js"
[08:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> what are you trying to save it in?
[08:25] <Snake__> mozilla..
[08:25] <Snake__> if thats what you mean
[08:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> try copy link location, then wget it
[08:25] <Hobbsee> get the link of the deb, then use wget -c link
[08:26] <Hobbsee> nice work Kamping_Kaiser :P
[08:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[08:26] <Snake__> ill try
[08:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> great mines think alike ;P
[08:26] <Hobbsee> definetly
[08:26] <Hobbsee> then maybe i should get you to tell me what to do with the spare space, and lack of it
[08:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. what's wrong?
[08:27] <Snake__> So I should use wget -c linker.jp??
[08:27] <Hobbsee> Snake__: link to the page with the deb on it is what?
[08:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> Snake__: no, wget -c http://blah.deb
[08:27] <Snake__> Also, theres a version for "Debain 2.1" and "Debain 3+"
[08:27] <Snake__> what is kubuntu?
[08:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> 3
[08:27] <Snake__> kk
[08:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> 3.1 infact :)
[08:28] <Snake__> Is this right
[08:28] <Snake__> wget -c http://channels.netscape.com/wrap/linker.jsp?floc=at_oslin_1_l3&ref=http://ftp.newaol.com/aimgen/380469/aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[08:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> wget http://ftp.newaol.com/aimgen/380469/aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[08:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be it
[08:29] <Snake__> ok
[08:30] <Snake__> where did that save to??
[08:30] <Snake__> erm ya
[08:30] <Snake__> nvm
[08:31] <Snake__> argh
[08:32] <Snake__> Kamping_Kaiser: AIM sucks
[08:32] <Snake__> Can I post 4 lines of code into here?
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol yeh
[08:32] <gole> Snake__,  are you really wanting to use AIM?
[08:33] <Snake__> I just want direct connect
[08:33] <Snake__> thats it
[08:33] <gole> try giam?
[08:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> and gaim doesnt do it
[08:33] <Snake__> snake@laptop:~$ sudo dpkg -i aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[08:33] <Snake__> dpkg-deb: file looks like it might be an archive which has been
[08:33] <Snake__> dpkg-deb:    corrupted by being downloaded in ASCII mode
[08:33] <gole> ohh,
[08:33] <Snake__> dpkg-deb: `aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[08:33] <Snake__> dpkg: error processing aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb (--install):
[08:33] <Snake__>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[08:33] <Snake__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:33] <Snake__>  aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[08:33] <Snake__> I tried gaim, it doesnt connect
[08:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[08:33] <Snake__> gole: Does yours?
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> to confirm, what's `file aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb` say?
[08:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> mine doesnt, and it's 1.5
[08:34] <gole> well  haven't used direct connect so i have no idea what it is
[08:34] <Snake__> lol ok
[08:34] <gole> you try kopete
[08:34] <Snake__> Yep
[08:34] <Snake__> Also doesnt support it
[08:34] <gole> bummer
[08:34] <Snake__> snake@laptop:~$ file aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb
[08:34] <Snake__> aim_1.5.286-2_i386.deb: current ar archive
[08:35] <Snake__> trillian just bearly did
[08:35] <Snake__> But thats not on linux, and I don't know of any more IM programs for linux
[08:35] <gole> maybe you should try 2.0.0beta1 of gaim
[08:36] <gole> or check change log for stuff about direct connect..
[08:36] <Snake__> they say it works on 1.5
[08:36] <gole> ohh
[08:36] <Snake__> but i've opened every port on my firewall, and it still wont work
[08:37] <gole> well explain direct connect, that file transfers?
[08:37] <Snake__> its a feature in aim that lets you send files directly in the IM without saving to the hard drive, etc
[08:37] <Snake__> send pictures((
[08:37] <Snake__> sorry
[08:37] <gole> ahh
[08:40] <gole> ya reading more on gaim, it mentions that since Oscar is not an open protocol it doesn't support all functions, maybe that is the problem you are running into
[08:41] <Hobbsee> Snake__: try turning off your firewall, temporarily?
[08:41] <Snake__> Erm router...
[08:41] <Snake__> lol
[08:41] <gole> http://kinkatta.sourceforge.net maybe
[08:41] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> set up an ssh server like the rest of us ;)
[08:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> *cough * me
[08:43] <Snake__> What do you mean?
[08:43] <Snake__> Oh..
[08:43] <Snake__> no..
[08:43] <Snake__> lol
[08:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[08:44] <gole> sorry Snake__  this link might work better http://tinyurl.com/9ege8
[08:44] <gole> might be worth a try
[08:45] <Snake__> Hmm
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn. no ssh server for puppy linux :( *realises why he uses apt- distros
[08:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> *
[08:47] <Snake__> Aw well i'm to lazy to complie kinkatta, I guess ill suffer lol
[09:02] <leafw> anyone has any clue why ssh -X works for opening xlock, mozilla, etc, but not for OpenGL - related applications such as glxgears or blender ?
[09:03] <leafw> at least in kubuntu hoary and breezy, ppc.
[09:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> leafw: perhaps your local box has no 3d?
[09:03] <leafw> Kamping_Kaiser: it does. Both boxes can run blender independently
[09:04] <leafw> but from kubuntu I can't run blender over a ssh -X
[09:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i havent tried, so I'm not sure
[09:05] <leafw> just run glxgears
[09:05] <leafw> it's a test for opengl
[09:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have no box to pull it from
[09:06] <leafw> hum
[09:06] <leafw> I'm stuck here
[09:06] <leafw> I've tried everything
[09:07] <leafw> xhosts +, changing the DISPLAY, nothign ....
[09:07] <leafw> I get:
[09:07] <leafw> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[09:07] <leafw>   Major opcode of failed request:  128 (XFree86-DRI)
[09:07] <leafw>   Minor opcode of failed request:  1 ()
[09:07] <leafw>   Serial number of failed request:  11
[09:07] <leafw>   Current serial number in output stream:  11
[09:39] <kubuntu> how do i have a hibernate suspend choice in kubuntu logout? I only have restart and shutdown
[10:05] <jbueler> is there a place i can paste my debugger results.. so someone can help me out? i would appreciate it greatly
[10:06] <sampan> !pastebin
[10:06] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:06] <sampan> (pastebin is also in the topic)
[10:12] <os2mac> Nollaig Sogail, Mele Kelikimaka!!!!!
[10:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi os2mac
[10:14] <os2mac> Hello Kaiser... why are you awake?
[10:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's 8 pm hrere (bit before)
[10:15] <os2mac> .au?
[10:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. central
[10:16] <os2mac> ahhh. I have a sister in law that lives in Sydney... been there a few times myself...
[10:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool
[10:16] <os2mac> have a bit of a preference for your beer....
[10:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[10:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> coopers > *
[10:17] <os2mac> the commerical grade stuff around here is swill... microbrews are good but hard to come by
[10:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> even [\copers,cascade]  > *
[10:17] <os2mac> I like Coopers...  I have always heard it's possible but never done it.
[10:23] <Hobbsee> mount an iso?
[10:24] <os2mac> yes
[10:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> iso?
[10:24] <JakubS> mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/something -o loop
[10:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to.iso /mnt/isohere
[10:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[10:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> snap JakubS :)
[10:24] <JakubS> i'm faster, bwahahaha :-)
[10:24] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> bah. sif :P
[10:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> our posts had the same time stamp here
[10:25] <jbueler> okay so can anyone help me read through this? im lost.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6141
[10:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. not me :)
[10:26] <Hobbsee> i can try...
[10:27] <Hobbsee> bah, no clue lol
[10:27] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: why so slow?
[10:27] <os2mac> ouch what kind of connection you on... can and string?
[10:27] <jbueler> cool, thanks
[10:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. no, I'm installing Kubuntu into a chroot
[10:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2.5 hours for the system to dl
[10:28] <fredd> Hi there ! Merry xmas
[10:28] <Hobbsee> hehe - can and string, i like that idea!
[10:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> not far off ;)
[10:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi fredd :D
[10:30] <fredd> Anyone is enjying Amarok as music player ? :)
[10:31] <fredd> I have 2 question about amarok ... one about sync with iPod and the other about the automatoc organisation of the musics on the harddrive
[10:31] <os2mac> Fredd:Nollaig Sogail, Mele Kelikimaka!!!!!
[10:31] <fredd> 1/ ipod: Do you also have issues synchronizing your iPod ? I can't sync more than 256 songs on my Nano ...
[10:31] <Hobbsee_away> fredd: if you get no answer here, try in #amarok
[10:32] <fredd> Hobbsee_away, ... wise... I didn't think about it ... how stupid
[10:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know of a compressing filesystem i could use for partitions about 2-> 3 gig in size?
[10:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> i know of cramfs, but that's only for the kernel isnt it?
[10:33] <os2mac> Kaiser: tar -cvf?
[10:33] <fredd> Kamping_Kaiser, It's how of my knowledge... sorry
[10:34] <os2mac> :)
[10:34] <fredd> out
[10:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: no :P
[10:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> i want to be alble to make a file on my hdd, and call it a partition (by mounting it into my fs), then install stuff into the file using a chroot
[10:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i need it compressed, or i wont have space for more then 4 or 5 at one time
[11:22] <thecat12> hey, I want to install kubuntu on my powerbook g3, but im an absolute beginner, can somebody help me?
[11:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure
[11:23] <thecat12> uhm.. ok
[11:23] <thecat12> soo.. i downloaded...
[11:23] <thecat12> Kubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) Daily Build
[11:24] <thecat12> put it on a cd
[11:24] <thecat12> now what?
[11:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> unstable, want to live life on the edge :O
[11:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> stick itin your cd drive
[11:24] <thecat12> done
[11:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> and reboot :)
[11:24] <thecat12> ok
[11:24] <thecat12> just reboot? don't need to press anything?
[11:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> and while it's booting it should say 'press c to boot from cd' or similar
[11:24] <thecat12> ok
[11:25] <thecat12> hold on
[11:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> does it come to a ui for selecting language/country?
[11:26] <thecat12> not yet
[11:26] <thecat12> still rebooting
[11:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[11:27] <thecat12> its kinda slow
[11:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> np.
[11:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have slower computers here :)
[11:28] <Hobbsee> thecat12: have you ever run linux before?
[11:28] <thecat12> nope
[11:28] <thecat12> i've used it
[11:28] <thecat12> but haven't installed it
[11:29] <thecat12> hmm.. i think this 'c' thing isn't working.. its not booting with the cd
[11:30] <thecat12> can't I do this from the terminal or something?
[11:33] <thecat12> yeah.. the 'c' thing isn't working
[11:33] <thecat12> i don't think my keyboard works at the beginning
[11:33] <thecat12> can't I erase the computer and start from scratch?
[11:34] <thecat12> ?
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes you can
[11:39] <thecat12> ok.. i think it's gonna have to done throught the terminal
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> it should have an ncurses interface for the installer (blue background)
[11:41] <vince_> join #php
[11:43] <thecat12> when I boot off the CD?
[11:43] <thecat12> i can't
[11:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> you cant?
[11:44] <Varinia> hello, since yesterday I have a mass storage device, I thought by using kubuntu with kde 3.5 (pmount) and uninstalled ivman I could just plug it in and it works. But nothing happens, if I look in /var/log/messages, I can see the device and mount /dev/sda1 by hand then, but this is impossible for my girlfriend (it is her PC). I saw in the internet, that there others with my problem too, but found no solution. Do you know what to do?
[11:44] <thecat12> no, i can't boot from the cd, I try to press 'c' but nothing happens
[11:44] <thecat12> the regular OS starts
[11:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. well i don't know mac very well I'm afraid
[11:44] <thecat12> hmm..
[11:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have used imacs a few times, and I'm having issues remember ing openfirmware :)
[11:45] <thecat12> let me try rebooting again
[11:45] <Hobbsee> Varinia: i'd try putting a line into fstab about it, i think
[11:46] <Varinia> Hobbsee, but exactly this is should pmount do
[11:47] <Hobbsee> Varinia: and it doesnt appear on the desktop?
[11:48] <Varinia> no it does not
[11:48] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> Varinia: does `lsof` show anything?
[11:49] <Varinia> Hobbsee, you hav e seen, that I have upgraded to kde 3.5?
[11:49] <Hobbsee> yes
[11:49] <Varinia> ok :)
[11:49] <Hobbsee> well, i just tried it, and it mounted mine fine, it seems, but then again, i am on dapper, so it's likely to be different
[11:50] <Varinia> Kamping_Kaiser, it shows so much, what are you looking for?
[11:50] <thecat12> what's the dapper install?
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> any reference to you /dev/sda
[11:52] <Varinia> I did "lsof | grep sda" and there came nothing
[11:52] <thecat12> what's the difference between dapper-install-powerpc and the ubuntu-install-powerpc?
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> dapper is testing
[11:53] <thecat12> sooo.. i need the other ubuntu instead of dapper?
[11:53] <Hobbsee> thecat12: how new are you to linux?
[11:53] <thecat12> absurdly new
[11:54] <thecat12> like.. im laughable
[11:54] <thecat12> im at a retarded level right now..
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> oi. no
[11:54] <thecat12> i figured, getting linux on a computer was a good way to start
[11:54] <Hobbsee> ok, i wouldnt use dapper then lol - go for breezy :P
[11:55] <thecat12> ok
[11:55] <thecat12> well
[11:55] <thecat12> that'll be another 3 hours of downloading then
[11:56] <Hobbsee> how are you trying to download?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> download accelerator?
[11:57] <Varinia> does anyone have another idea than dapper?
[11:57] <thecat12> no.. just regular, I usually download off the university server which is fast enough, so I don't need accelerators, but I'm home for the holidays, so im stuck with 50 kb/s
[11:58] <Hobbsee> Varinia: i expect there are other solutions - but a lot of people are idle due to christmas, where they're not at the computer so much
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, I'm flat out in ubuntu, or i would try and help here
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> Varinia: is the mass storage device in ythe fstab?
[12:01] <Varinia> Kamping_Kaiser, no, it is not, but therefore kde 3.5 uses pmount
[12:02] <Varinia> or is pmount deactivated in the kubuntu version?
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> i don't know, i don't use 3.5
[12:03] <Varinia> at home I use it too (but not kubuntu) and it was that great, that I would give my girlfriend the same comfort
[12:04] <Varinia> from the pmount description "pmount is a wrapper around the standard mount program which permits normal users to mount removable devices without a matching /etc/fstab entry. "
[12:05] <m0ns00n> Hey
[12:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> great
[12:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi m0ns00n
[12:05] <m0ns00n> Anyone experienced GLX problems with the newest version of the NVidia drivers?
[12:05] <m0ns00n> It crashes here, but now renderaccel works at least
[12:05] <m0ns00n> But Xorg crashes miserably on GLX
[12:05] <m0ns00n> Works with glx disabled
[12:11] <Varinia> I tried "pmount /dev/sda1"
[12:11] <Varinia> Dec 25 12:09:51 localhost kernel: [4297528.027000]  UDF-fs: No VRS found
[12:11] <Varinia> Dec 25 12:09:51 localhost kernel: [4297528.178000]  UDF-fs: No VRS found
[12:11] <Varinia> Dec 25 12:09:52 localhost kernel: [4297528.800000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[12:11] <Varinia> Dec 25 12:09:52 localhost kernel: [4297529.197000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[12:11] <Varinia> I think that is a hint on the problem
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> what exactly have you plgged in?
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> *plugged
[12:11] <Varinia> the output comes from /var/log/messages
[12:12] <Varinia> I plugged an USB cardreader with an memory stick plugged in into the USB port
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you tried pluggin in the reader, then the card?
[12:12] <Varinia> no
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> give it a shot
[12:13] <Varinia> now I have tried this to, but nothing happens too
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[12:14] <Varinia> I also tried to connect the cellphone directly with the USB cable and it does not work
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> does `cat /proc/filesystems |grep UDF` or udf give output?
[12:14] <Varinia> at home I have a cellphone from the same vender and everything works fine
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> what are you urunning at home?
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> *you running?
[12:14] <Varinia> gentoo
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, ok
[12:15] <Varinia> but thats not the right disstri for my girlfriend I think
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, i agree :)
[12:15] <Varinia> wit "udf" it gaves "udf" out
[12:18] <Varinia> 7j #gentoo-vdr
[12:18] <Varinia> j #gentoo-vdr
[12:18] <Varinia> :) that was not what I wanted
[12:19] <Varinia> thanks :)
[12:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:21] <Varinia> Oh, sorry
[12:21] <Varinia> pmount /dev/sda1 wokrs
[12:22] <Varinia> I looked in media:/ an not in /media
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:22] <Varinia> so I have really no idea why it does not work automaticly
[12:23] <Hobbsee>  media:/ is a known kde bug
[12:23] <Hobbsee> solution is to look in /media/
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> Varinia: btw. you should give her 3.4.2, it's the stable version
[12:24] <Varinia> no, with kde 2.5 and pmount media:/ should work great
[12:24] <Varinia> and no, 3.5 is the stable version
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> *shrug*
[12:24] <Varinia> h 3.5
[12:26] <Varinia> from kde.org "On November 29th 2005, the KDE Project released KDE 3.5."
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's not considdreed stable in ubuntu afaik
[12:29] <Varinia> but it was offical announced on the kubuntu page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok.
[12:40] <Hobbsee> i think it's the equivalent of a backport, actually
[12:40] <Hobbsee> kde 3.5, thta is
[12:41] <Varinia> Hobbsee, sorry, I do not really understand what you mean
[12:41] <Hobbsee> Varinia: do you know what backports are?
[12:42] <Varinia> I thought that were packages made for 5.04
[12:45] <Varinia> varinia@varinia:~$ pmount /dev/sda1
[12:45] <Varinia> varinia@varinia:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda1
[12:45] <Varinia> ^^ I told her this as a first help
[12:46] <Hobbsee> !backports
[12:46] <ubotu> hmm... backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:46] <Hobbsee> ie, you cant really stick kde3.5 as a security update, cos it's not - but it'll be default in hte next kubuntu
[12:46] <Varinia> yea, I look forward to 6.04
[12:47] <Varinia> but would be fine if pmount works before
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about grub
[12:48] <Hobbsee> indeed
[12:52] <Varinia> I have to go for lunch now
[12:52] <murtun> hi all
[12:53] <Varinia> thanks for your help, may be we will finde a solution one day ;)
[12:53] <murtun> i need a bit of help getting sound to work on Kubuntu
[01:09] <gharwoo1> why doesn't ubuntu include selinux?
[01:09] <BrainDeadKK> it's not needed by most people
[01:10] <treakath> hey all
[01:10] <Hobbsee> hi treakath
[01:10] <BrainDeadKK> hi mate
[01:10] <treakath> how are you hob
[01:11] <BrainDeadKK> sounds like a bad pcikup line ;)
[01:12] <gharwoo1> BrainDeadKK: any idea why?
[01:12] <treakath> any1 one i can be mean to lol
[01:12] <BrainDeadKK> gharwoo1: sorry, I'm not following the channels atm
[01:12] <treakath> that no one likes
[01:12] <Hobbsee> treakath: you might want to use tab completion - otherwise people dont get notified of when they're being spoken to
[01:13] <treakath> k im just bored at the mo
[01:17] <BrainDeadKK> lol. at least you have support Hobbsee ;P
[01:17] <Hobbsee> true
[01:17] <Hobbsee> i know what it's like not to, which is part of the reason i came to help you earlier!
[01:18] <BrainDeadKK> lol. *hugs more*
[01:19] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:20] <BrainDeadKK> :)
[01:25] <dutch> Merry Christmas to all :)
[01:31] <MenZa`> Merry christmas :)
[01:58] <voicu> i got the locales package for debian but i can't install it. dpkg said it cannot find archive so i realised it's just an archive. i unpacked it and overwritten the files in /usr and /etc. still it doesn't work. what's the problem?
[01:59] <voicu> uh, sorry for that sentence, i'm really tired... i meant that dpkg can't find the 'archive' directory in .deb so i realised the .deb is just an archive
[02:00] <voicu> did i make any sense?
[02:01] <thoreauputic> voicu: why are you using debian packages?
[02:01] <thoreauputic> voicu: locales are in ubuntu
[02:02] <voicu> but aren't debian packages supposed to work on (k)ubuntu?
[02:03] <thoreauputic> voicu: no, they are out of sync with ubuntu in general, because of the different release cycles
[02:03] <BrainDeadKK> Debian packages *may* work with ubuntu, not Debian packages *will* work with ubuntu
[02:03] <thoreauputic> voicu: and practically everything is in the ubuntu repos
[02:04] <thoreauputic> BrainDeadKK: right, but unless you know exactly what you are doing, you should use ubuntu packages
[02:04] <BrainDeadKK> thoreauputic: yes, I'm just thinking of stuff such as skype
[02:05] <voicu> well, in the ubuntu repositories there is version 2.3.2-20-13 but i need 2.3.2-22-... so i didn't have a choice
[02:05] <thoreauputic> BrainDeadKK: true - why the nick change , kamping ?
[02:05] <jbueler> does anyone know what repos vamps is in? or where i can get it?
[02:05] <thoreauputic> voicu: why do you need that version?
[02:05] <BrainDeadKK> because my brian has shut down after that help spell i did
[02:05] <thoreauputic> BrainDeadKK: hah
[02:06] <BrainDeadKK> er
[02:06] <BrainDeadKK> *anoyed
[02:06] <srbaker> hey everyone
[02:06] <srbaker> just installed kubuntu
[02:06] <voicu> thoreauputic: i wanted to install some program (can't remember which) and it reqeired libc6-2.3.2-22 and now it messed up the dependencies
[02:06] <BrainDeadKK> hi mate
[02:06] <srbaker> i am *very* impressed with KDE
[02:06] <srbaker> i have one question, though.  where can i remap capslock as ctrl?
[02:06] <voicu> because locales depends on libc6=2.3.2-22 (not >=)
[02:08] <voicu> now, when i select a packege in aptitude or kynaptic, it wants to delete all the other packages that depend on locale because it sees it as a 'broken' one
[02:15] <BrainDeadKK> because I'm not mounting an ubuntu partition to restore from, so grub-install isnt on the computer ;)
[02:17] <srbaker> can someone please tell me where to remap capslock to ctrl?
[02:18] <jbueler> does anyone know anything about the app growisofs ?
[02:19] <voicu> are the repositories on security.ubuntu.com as up2date as possible (for ubuntu)? are there any other similar repositories?
[02:19] <BrainDeadKK> voicu: those re the most up to date
[02:21] <thoreauputic> voicu: they are vvery up to date
[02:21] <voicu> ok. in that case... will linux run (properly) without the locales package? :D
[02:22] <thoreauputic> voicu: locales is installed by default
[02:22] <thoreauputic> voicu: if you have a version mismatch, you must be doing something weird with your sources or randomly installing stuff
[02:23] <thoreauputic> !sources
[02:23] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:23] <BrainDeadKK> voicu: can we see your srouces. list
[02:23] <voicu> well, ok, but i didn't change them yet
[02:24] <voicu> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[02:24] <voicu> deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[02:24] <voicu> deb-src http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[02:24] <voicu> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[02:24] <BrainDeadKK> ak
[02:24] <voicu> ## distribution.
[02:24] <voicu> deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[02:24] <voicu> deb-src http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[02:24] <voicu> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[02:24] <voicu> ## repository.
[02:24] <voicu> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[02:24] <voicu> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[02:24] <voicu> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[02:24] <voicu> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[02:24] <voicu> ## team.
[02:25] <thoreauputic> voicu: don't paste here - use a paste bin
[02:25] <voicu> oups, sorry
[02:25] <thoreauputic> !paste
[02:25] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:28] <voicu> ok, i pasted in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:30] <thoreauputic> voicu: you're using hoary ?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> voicu: I suggest you uncomment the universe lines as well
[02:31] <thoreauputic> and run  sudo apt-get upgrade  afterwards
[02:31] <BrainDeadKK> sudo apt-get update
[02:32] <thoreauputic> aargh - good catch BrainDeadKK
[02:32] <thoreauputic> voicu: update, not upgrade, sorry
[02:32] <BrainDeadKK> sleep time for our little thoreauputic ;)
[02:32] <thoreauputic> BrainDeadKK: indeed :)
[02:32] <tenco> hi all!
[02:33] <tenco> i have a dependency problem
[02:33] <BrainDeadKK> :)
[02:33] <BrainDeadKK> tenco:  :(
[02:33] <voicu> don't worry, i wasn't considering upgrade anyway because that would take like days
[02:34] <tenco> i want to install kde headers but kdelibs4-dev (which is from 3.5.0) throws 80(!) broken dependencys ( i installed kde 3.5.0 on breezy)
[02:34] <tenco> s/dependencys/dependencies
[02:35] <BrainDeadKK> lol
[02:35] <thoreauputic> night all
[02:35] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:35] <BrainDeadKK> later mate?::)
[02:35] <thoreauputic> BrainDeadKK: well, maybe tomorrow -erm - today
[02:36] <BrainDeadKK> night mate
[02:36] <BrainDeadKK> lol
[02:36] <thoreauputic> good night :)
[02:37] <tenco> so i wonder what kde devel package i need to install to compile kde apps on breezy with kde 3.5.0
[02:37] <BrainDeadKK> i cant help, sorry
[02:38] <tenco> :-(
[02:39] <[ITA] MisterX> mi fa imbestialire :/
[02:39] <[ITA] MisterX> sorry ^^'
[02:39] <[ITA] MisterX> I wrote in the wrong channel XD
[02:39] <BrainDeadKK> lol
[02:40] <tenco> urgh, thats a nightmare...
[02:45] <voicu> isn't there a *trick* to fool linux that i installed locales 2.3.2-22 even if i didn't?
[02:45] <voicu> something like a config file
[02:52] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:52] <BrainDeadKK> hi
[02:52] <[ITA] MisterX> How can I define a "route gateway" for a manual/static ip?
[02:53] <BrainDeadKK> in the interfaces file it's just a line `gateway ip.of.gate.way`
[02:54] <[ITA] MisterX> I'll try. Now. =)
[02:54] <BrainDeadKK> :)
[03:05] <[ITA] MisterX> It works! Thank you, Brain :)
[03:06] <voicu> how do i add a directory to PATH?
[03:06] <HeartBT> network manager for kde, I'm not able to find any current developments on it, anyone here know?
[03:06] <HeartBT> I understand it was a project for dapper.
[03:08] <HeartBT> Send me a memo if anyone has any ideas.
[03:28] <slow-motion> bbl
[03:29] <Xmasmoo> voicu: export PATH=/home/mydir:$PATH in terminal
[03:37] <BrainDeadKK> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/478321 anyone got some pointers here ? it's a base install +Kubuntu-desktop
[04:06] <slow-motion> re
[04:23] <psyk> hey how come in kaffiene im not getting any sound?
[04:23] <psyk> please help
[04:26] <psyk> hello
[04:26] <psyk> no sound in kaffiene player please hellp trying to hear avi file
[04:26] <kalenedrael> Umm...
[04:26] <kalenedrael> You asked that same question about four times in five minutes. Please be more patient next time.
[04:27] <psyk> sorry
[04:27] <kalenedrael> It's hardly an emergency that you're not able to hear sound :P
[04:27] <psyk> haha
[04:27] <kalenedrael> Use a different player.
[04:27] <psyk> which is a good player to download
[04:27] <jahshua> use xmms
[04:27] <kalenedrael> I use mplayer.
[04:27] <jahshua> or myplayer
[04:27] <jahshua> or vlc is great too
[04:27] <jahshua> plays eveything
[04:27] <jahshua> myplayer=mplayer
[04:28] <kalenedrael> Yeah.
[04:28] <jahshua> anyone here use Creative usb mp3 players with KDE
[04:28] <kalenedrael> Maybe artsd is interfering with it.
[04:28] <Z0idberg> I tried to install Dapper Flight 2 and it won't find my sata harddrives. Selecting the driver doesn't help.  Any ideas what I could do? I think the chip is a sil3112.
[04:28] <kalenedrael> jahshua, I suspect it appears to the computer as a USB storage device.
[04:29] <kalenedrael> Z0idberg, check to see if the kernel supports it...
[04:29] <jahshua> where would i find it at
[04:29] <jahshua> will it pop up an icon on my taskbar like windows ?
[04:29] <kalenedrael> jahshua, USB drives will show up as /dev/sd*
[04:29] <kalenedrael> Like /dev/sda1
[04:29] <kalenedrael> Also, KDE tends to pop up an icon, yes.
[04:30] <jahshua> im just wondering about how to remove it safely
[04:30] <kalenedrael> Oh, unmount it and just unplug it.
[04:30] <kalenedrael> Or right click and select 'remove safely'
[04:30] <jahshua> yeh
[04:30] <jahshua> thats the easy way hehe i want to learn how to unmount
[04:31] <Z0idberg> kalenedrael: I tried to download the daily yesterday, thinking it might have a newer kernel, but then again the install says it can't find any kernel modules, you know of any solution for that :)?
[04:31] <kalenedrael> O.o
[04:31] <kalenedrael> Ummm....
[04:32] <kalenedrael> Download and compile your own kernel?
[04:33] <Z0idberg> Maybe, but as I can't get it installed it's a bit hard...
[04:33] <kalenedrael> Umm, what? Does your machine boot? Can you get Internet access?
[04:34] <noc> cannot watch movie with
[04:34] <noc> kubuntu
[04:34] <noc> any one can help me
[04:34] <noc> ?
[04:35] <Z0idberg> If I install and older Dapper, dist-upgrading breaks the system for me. If I try flight 2 it doesn't find my harddrives and yesterdays daily didn't find the kernel modules in the beginning of the install. Yes, I could stick to Breezy, but that's not as funny :).
[04:36] <jahshua> ok so no icon popped up .. how do i unmount a usb device ?
[04:36] <noc> how can i install realplayer using terminal
[04:36] <noc> ?
[04:37] <jahshua> ?? restricted formats
[04:37] <koshbot> restricted[x] : No defenition found for word.
[04:37] <kinfo> No match for "restricted"
[04:37] <kalenedrael> Your '?' can be placed on the same line as your question, you know :P
[04:37] <jahshua> ? restricted formats
[04:37] <jahshua> hmnm
[04:37] <jahshua> heh
[04:37] <jahshua> kalendrael how can i unmount, no icon popped up
[04:37] <kalenedrael> I dunno, it's probably not mounted.
[04:38] <kalenedrael> ls /dev/sd*
[04:38] <jahshua> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1
[04:38] <jahshua> thats the return
[04:38] <kalenedrael> Oh, it's there, then.
[04:38] <kalenedrael> Odd.
[04:38] <jahshua> it popped up a konqueror window
[04:38] <jahshua> media:/sda1
[04:39] <kalenedrael> Ok, it's there then...
[04:39] <jahshua> right
[04:39] <jahshua> is that the place i should drag the mp3 to ?
[04:39] <kalenedrael> Yeah.
[04:41] <jahshua> ok so i put a few tunes in there i just want to check it copied ok
[04:41] <jahshua> how can i unmount to remove it
[04:42] <kalenedrael> There should be an icon on the desktop. Right-click and select 'Safely remove'
[04:47] <Z0idberg> Well, I'm gonna try putting the latest daily on a CD-RW... It probably wont help, but...
[04:48] <Z0idberg> Would there be any way to boot the Flight 2 installation cd with a different kernel?
[04:50] <jahshua> kalenedrael: thanks alot thats worked
[04:50] <tenco> anyone knows, when the amarok vs. taglib issue gets solved?
[04:50] <tenco> because thats pretty anoying
[04:54] <jahshua> hello
[04:54] <Z0idberg> When will the next Dapper flight be released?
[04:55] <jahshua> im trying to launch kAudioKreator but its say no encoder found please select one in the configuration..can someone please help me to do this ?
[05:10] <ludo> salut, je viens de mettre kunbuntu mais j'y connais rien, est ce que je peux consulter les fichiers de mon autre DD (celui avec windows) svp
[05:12] <ludo> y a quelqun svp ?
[05:15] <rubem> hi there
[05:15] <rubem> I've just instaled Kubuntu
[05:16] <rubem> Which are the best apt repos for kubuntu?
[05:16] <martin> universe
[05:16] <rubem> martin
[05:16] <rubem> martin, but which url?
[05:16] <martin> open Adept, goto manage repositories
[05:17] <rubem> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:17] <rubem> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:17] <rubem> adept: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[05:17] <rubem> that aperead when i typed "adept"
[05:18] <martin> open it via katapult (alt-space) or go to the k menu
[05:19] <rubem> ok
[05:19] <rubem> opened
[05:20] <rubem> manage repositories... which repo I put? what url?
[05:20] <martin> Go to the Adept menu and select manage repo
[05:20] <rubem> i'm in it
[05:21] <rubem> it apeats the sources.list repos
[05:21] <martin> Read where it says "uncomment the following two lines to add software from the universe repos
[05:22] <rubem> ok
[05:22] <rubem> but this packags are stable?
[05:22] <martin> Yup
[05:22] <rubem> just those repos?
[05:23] <martin> Universe is the best one. There is also one called backport, havn't used that one
[05:25] <rubem> tks :)
[05:25] <rubem> but why cannot i open the kate by konsole?
[05:27] <Till> hello
[05:28] <brk3> hi, im trying to set up ip masquerading, but every howto seems to be different and not very clear.. is there an easy way someone could outline to me?
[05:31] <Till> anyone not sitting under the xmas tree right now?
[05:31] <tenco_> Till: yes
[05:32] <jahshua> hello how can i convert .wav files to .mp3  ??
[05:32] <Till> tenco_: so did you have a nice xmas party? :) What did you get? 8)
[05:34] <brk3> jahshua: lame
[05:34] <jahshua> ?
[05:34] <brk3> its the package that does it
[05:34] <tenco_> Till: a electric toothbrush
[05:34] <jahshua> ok
[05:34] <brk3> cant think what is a good frontend
[05:34] <brk3> im sure there are loads
[05:34] <Till> tenco: cool, I'm still missing such a tool :)
[05:34] <jahshua> k thanks
[05:35] <tenco_> X-D
[05:35] <brk3> anyone know how to set up ip masquerading?
[05:35] <Till> tenco: I got a scarf ;)
[05:35] <Till> cool huh?
[05:36] <Till> sooo... everyone using kubuntu in here?
[05:36] <Till> (change of subject)
[05:37] <brk3> yup
[05:37] <brk3> does the kernel in kubuntu have support for ip masquerading built in>
[05:39] <brk3> whats the name of the kde control centre to start from the command line>?
[05:40] <jahshua> kcontrol
[05:40] <Till> brk3: sorry I don't know much about IP masquerading ;/
[05:40] <jahshua> yay! my first question i answered in here for someone!
[05:41] <jahshua> AND i was right
[05:41] <jahshua> hehe
[05:41] <Till> (that means: zero knowledge)
[05:41] <jahshua> ?
[05:41] <brk3> pity i found out about it before i saw the answer :)
[05:41] <jahshua> hehe
[05:41] <brk3> this sucks i wish i could just get this working
[05:41] <brk3> so many howtos but they're no good
[05:42] <Till> jahshua: maye you could answer your 2nd question just now...
[05:42] <Till> jashuha: it's an easy one, I guesss...
[05:42] <jahshua> ill try :)
[05:42] <Till> with SuSE KDE login manager I had these user icons for each user...
[05:43] <Till> jahshua: now with Kubuntu it seems I have this "enter your user name and password" login manager
[05:43] <brk3> Till: thats all kubuntu gives
[05:43] <brk3> it sucks
[05:44] <Till> jahshua: can I change this behaviour back to the KDE login manager?
[05:44] <brk3> im sure you could get others off kde-look.org
[05:44] <Till> oh that's a pity...
[05:44] <jahshua> ;/
[05:44] <Till> not that _I_ would mind...
[05:44] <brk3> sorry jahshua were you gonna answer that :p
[05:44] <Till> but you see, my mother is very picky about changes in icon layouts ;)
[05:45] <brk3> ya sure check kde-look.org im sure you'l get something
[05:45] <Till> it's just I kicked her SuSE linux and replaced it by Kubuntu
[05:46] <Till> brk3: it seems like it's a "kubuntu login manager", not the KDE login manager being used...
[05:46] <Till> brk3: ... because changing the behaviour of the KDE login manager (in KControl) doesn't seem to have any effect, e.g. changing the bg image
[05:46] <brk3> ya think it is
[05:47] <jahshua> sorry i dont know the answer :(
[05:47] <Till> brk3: so how could checking kde-look.org help here?
[05:47] <brk3> you can change to the kde one in kcontrol
[05:48] <Till> brk3: ok, I haven't seen this option yet, but i'll check thanks...
[05:48] <brk3> Till: you can download different login themes
[05:48] <brk3> i think
[05:48] <brk3> i dunno
[05:49] <jahshua> ok i have a question :p
[05:49] <jahshua> when i out cd's into my drive it automatically pops up konqueror and tries to play it .. how do i make it stop and take no action ?
[05:51] <Till> jahshua: there's a "KDE daemon" responsible for this...
[05:51] <Till> ...I've just seen a config dialog today, I think you can access this config dialog...
[05:51] <Till> ... when you insert a CD or USB stick and the daemon asks which action to take...there also a config button I think
[05:52] <Till> brk3: coming back to the login themes...
[05:52] <jahshua> hrm it doesnt ask me tho
[05:52] <Till> brk3: I've just checked in KControl, but didn't find any option yet as to use the "native KDE login manager" instead of the Kubuntu one
[05:52] <jahshua> it just opens konqueror
[05:53] <jahshua> it must be in the setting somewhere ..
[05:53] <jahshua> ill keep looking :)
[05:53] <Till> jahshua: okay, then yes, "somewhere in the settings" ;)
[05:54] <Till> jahshua: sorry, can't find myself this dialog anymore in KControl ... :(
[05:55] <Till> jashua: but you see, I have this memory stick which I'm just going to insert...
[05:55] <jahshua> oh
[05:55] <jahshua> yes
[05:56] <jahshua> that will pop up an icon
[05:56] <jahshua> on the desktop for you
[05:56] <jahshua> it should anyway..
[05:57] <Till> jahshua: hmmm. yes it does pop up an icon on my desktop and opens another tab in konqueror at the same time...
[05:57] <Till> .. but it doesn't show up this message dialog "What action to take" anymore....as I was hoping.
[05:58] <Till> jahshua: and now I know why: today I checked this "Don't do anything and don't ask me again" checkbox in this config dialog!
[05:58] <Till> (but still it opens a tab in konqueror... strange)
[05:58] <jahshua> hmm
[05:59] <Till> in other words: I don't know anymore how to access this config dialog....
[05:59] <Till> ... but it said something with "KDE Daemon"
[06:01] <Till> okay I got it!
[06:02] <Till> It's in K-Menu/System settings/Hardware ->"Speichermedien" (Media?)
[06:03] <Till> "Speichermedien" probably "Storage media"
[06:03] <Till> And there you have this config dialog I was talking about
[06:03] <bam_> how do I change the default dvd player to xine?
[06:09] <lordpatman> hi
[06:15] <Till> bye
[06:21] <murr> hi, what program should i use to test a webcam?
[06:22] <murr> i have two different webcams, and they seem to be recognized and some driver is loaded or something, but when i try to open settings -> configure in kopete, the computer totally freezes, with both webcams
[06:22] <murr> any other programs that should show the picture of webcams?
[06:25] <cartesian1984> essentially, I have ubuntu, GNOME and a working kxdocker. I would like to be able to use other applications in the dock than the defaults. How do I customize it?
[06:47] <jahshua> anyone know a program for converting .wav to .mp3 in Kubuntu ??
[06:53] <gole> lame
[06:54] <gole> think you can so it in KAudioCreator too when you configure lame
[06:54] <obsrv> hello, I have trouble with Adept. I can connect to internet ONLY trough a proxy, but I can't find where to set in Adept proxy server. With good old synaptic everything was ok. Any Ideas?
[06:59] <jahshua> gole i got lame but i dont know what to do with it now :/
[07:00] <gole> are they already .wav files or are you ripping them?
[07:02] <obsrv> hello, I have trouble with Adept. I can connect to internet ONLY trough a proxy, but I can't find where to set in Adept proxy server. With good old synaptic everything was ok. Any Ideas?
[07:02] <gole> jahshua, well fire up KAudioCreator, and configure it to encode with lame, then File > Encode File then select your .wav
[07:03] <jahshua> gole im ripping them from cd
[07:04] <jahshua> cooooooooooool
[07:04] <jahshua> i got it sorted
[07:04] <jahshua> thanks alot gole!
[07:04] <gole> ok it should be pretty simple
[07:05] <jahshua> hey gole
[07:05] <gole> yep
[07:05] <jahshua> do you know what i need to do to send files over kopete aim messenger
[07:06] <gole> i use gaim, didn't like kopete so can't help you out there sorry
[07:06] <gole> kopete doesn't let me use ICQ on AIM  network
[07:06] <gole> where gaim does
[07:06] <cartesian1984> install reaim
[07:06] <cartesian1984> its a proxy that lets files get through your firewall
[07:06] <cartesian1984> when sent via aim
[07:07] <gole> humm Snake|Sleeping was asking about that last night
[07:07] <gole> or direct connect that is
[07:07] <gole> anyone know how to boot the live CD on a VIA C3?
[07:13] <moshe> hello
[07:13] <moshe> anyone know apache here?
[07:13] <dragon> hi...
[07:13] <moshe> hi
[07:13] <dragon> i have Kubuntu with KDE 3.5
[07:13] <dragon> and don't have metabar..
[07:13] <moshe> metabar?
[07:13] <moshe> what's that?
[07:14] <dragon> metabar.. you know the bar that shows various options in konqueror
[07:14] <dragon> i forcefully installed the .deb package, but don't know how to enable it..
[07:14] <obsrv> hello, I have trouble with Adept. I can connect to internet ONLY trough a proxy, but I can't find where to set in Adept proxy server. With good old synaptic everything was ok. Any Ideas?
[07:15] <rodrigo> hey. merry xmas!
[07:16] <rodrigo> Why a command like 'sudo kate' doesn't work on terminal?
[07:18] <gole> rodrigo,  kdesu kate
[07:18] <rodrigo> thx
[07:19] <jahshua> hmmm
[07:19] <jahshua> gole the mp3 files are skipping when playing now
[07:20] <gole> could of ripped to fast, could be hardware, don't know
[07:20] <dragon> how do i enable the metabar in kde3.5?
[07:20] <gole> check the wav
[07:20] <gole> if that's bad then the mp3 will be
[07:22] <jahshua> hmmm its playing ok now
[07:22] <jahshua> wierd
[07:24] <godzuki> I have an ext3 drive that I can't seem to change permissions for, can anybody help me get the fstab right?
[07:33] <jahshua> cartesian1984 are you here ?
[07:34] <francesco> Hello, how can I obtain a menu bar like this: http://digilander.libero.it/zzzdgl0/scrinsciot2ua.png ?
[07:36] <kalenedrael> francesco, um, go to the Control Center and change it...
[07:37] <francesco> ehr... there is a problem: if I set menu bar "mac-os like" and then add some applet to it, then menu bar items appear RIGHT aligned: they stay no more LEFT aligned...
[07:38] <francesco> would you like a screenshot of the problem?
[07:38] <slow-motion> bbl
[07:38] <kalenedrael> No, I can imagine what it looks like.
[07:39] <kalenedrael> I have no idea what might be causing that, though...
[07:39] <francesco> :(((
[07:45] <jahshua> anyone here know how to send files over kopete aim  ?
[07:48] <_judith> ?
[07:49] <jahshua> what
[07:56] <hunika> hello
[07:56] <hunika> who can help to me
[07:56] <hunika> I have installed skype
[07:56] <hunika> but it is not working
[07:56] <hunika> it asks some libdc++ things
[07:56] <hunika> how can I install those?
[07:57] <Blissex> hunika: with 'apt-get install' or 'synaptic'.
[07:57] <hunika> but i don't know what to install
[07:58] <hunika> just it asks some things
[07:58] <jahshua> anyone here know how to send files over kopete aim  ?
[07:58] <jahshua> the 'send file' option is blanked out
[07:58] <jahshua> i cant select it
[07:58] <senke> How do I get KDE 3.5 develpment packages i.e KDE header files?
[07:58] <Mez|Away> jahshua, that means they dont have file transfer capability
[07:59] <jahshua> why not
[07:59] <jahshua> can i change it
[07:59] <Mez|Away> jahshua, that's their client not anything you can do#
[07:59] <jahshua> no
[07:59] <jahshua> his client does support it
[07:59] <Mez|Away> senke, http://www.kde.org
[07:59] <jahshua> we used to send files when i had windows
[08:00] <Mez|Away> jahshua, dun no then - try gaim and see if it'll work onb there
[08:04] <jahshua> k
[08:10] <rjm101> merry xxmas everyone
[08:11] <rjm101> can anyone help me with spca5ss on a eye cam??
[08:13] <rjm101> also have a prooblem with getting a laserjet 1100 to print
[08:15] <senke> how can I make KMail work in Kontact? I have never been suvvessful! There is always this missing library!
[08:15] <bam_> what programs can read *.chm files
[08:20] <thecat12> i need help. im a linux absolute beginner
[08:20] <thecat12> i can't boot my computer from the cd, is there a way to install breezy through the terminal
[08:20] <godzuki> you can't boot your comp from cd?
[08:21] <godzuki> you can't get terminal without booting something though, unless you mean a floppy
[08:21] <osh_> Where can I find the python2.4-profiler? Is there some special repo that I need to enable?
[08:21] <jahshua> joshua@toon:~$ kcontrol
[08:21] <jahshua> joshua@toon:~$ QFile::getch: File not open
[08:21] <jahshua> kcontrol: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program
[08:21] <jahshua> kcontrol: WARNING: No such property found: panel->background->url
[08:21] <jahshua> can anyone tell me what that means
[08:21] <thecat12>  i can't boot. terminal as in the the Mac terminal in my applications folder
[08:22] <godzuki> ..
[08:22] <godzuki> no
[08:22] <troy> thecat12: it being a mac is important information
[08:22] <godzuki> wait so you're trying to install on a ppc?
[08:22] <troy> thecat12: are you using the ppc version of *ubuntu
[08:23] <thecat12> yes. that's the one i downloaded
[08:24] <ludo> salut, y aurai til des Franais svp ?
[08:24] <rjm101> CAn anyone help this newbie???
[08:25] <ludo> does exist an french chat ? plz
[08:26] <ludo> i find sorry
[08:26] <ludo> good bue and merry christmas
[08:26] <manveru> !fr
[08:27] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:27] <slow-motion> re
[08:28] <ludo> j'y suis merci ubotu
[08:30] <troy> ubotu speaks good french for a bot :P
[08:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, troy
[08:30] <troy> hahaha
[08:30] <ludo> oh it's a bot ? lol ^^
[08:31] <thecat12> so yes. i have a mac. i downlaoded the ppc version of ubuntu breezy
[08:32] <thecat12> i put it on a cd
[08:32] <thecat12> but my old mac won't let me boot from the cd. the pressing the 'c' on restart doesn't work. it should. but it doesn't
[08:33] <ludo> there is nobody at the french server, i ll tru to ask here. I try to read my file on another HD (IDE) in an NTFS partition. But i don't find how. Someone could help me plz i am a noob
[08:35] <jbueler> i'm having trouble getting my second monitor working...is there anyone that can help me out?
[08:37] <tomsy> ludo try: "sudo fdisk -l" to list your partitions
[08:39] <ludo> i need a password
[08:39] <ludo> ok i find
[08:39] <tomsy> thats your log in password
[08:40] <ludo> thx, i see my part, someone tell me in the french chat to create an fstab
[08:41] <ludo> i ll try that, thx a lot
[08:43] <pestilence> merry christmas!
[08:43] <pestilence> what's the secret to getting an mp3 player going in amarok
[08:43] <pestilence> what mount point is it expecting
[08:44] <pestilence> it automounted in /media/TELECHIPS
[08:44] <pestilence> but amarok won't see it.
[08:50] <jbueler> is there anyone htat could help with the installation of ATI drivers?
[08:50] <spstarr_home> do we have a KDE replacement for gvidcap/xvidcap?
[08:51] <markuman> cant kopete read out the away messages from online users (icq...) like gaim ?
[09:02] <gverig1> Hmm... funny. Kvpnc package does not list any actual VPNs as dependencies and it does not seem to actually check if they are installed. nifty
[09:08] <gerst> hi
[09:13] <osh_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/python/python2.4-profiler <-that seems to indicate that python2.4-profiler is a part of breezy but I'll be damned if I can install it from apt... :-(
[09:46] <ztonzy> apokryphos, hey :) any progress so far ?
[09:46] <apokryphos> ztonzy: hey hey :)
[09:46] <apokryphos> Merry Christmas =)
[09:46] <apokryphos> what with?
[09:47] <ztonzy> apokryphos, to you too !
[09:47] <ztonzy> apokryphos, the distro :)
[09:49] <ztonzy> apokryphos, I am lazy these days, running XP and the last update killed my X :-\
[09:50] <apokryphos> what error?
[09:50] <ztonzy> dunno
[09:50] <ztonzy> wont start
[09:50] <ztonzy> but it is Ubuntu, not K*
[09:50] <apokryphos> not very descriptive :D
[09:50] <ztonzy> how would I know?
[09:50] <apokryphos> if it's just X death, reconfiguring your X would probably make things jolly =)
[09:50] <ztonzy> didnt check the X out-error-output
[09:51] <apokryphos> ztonzy: when it took you out of X it would always say/give a reason
[09:51] <ztonzy> just did an update...then it stopped working
[09:51] <apokryphos> likely just had to reconfigure your X =)
[09:51] <apokryphos> (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[09:51] <ztonzy> k
[10:03] <DoctorMO> hello all
[10:03] <daven> hello!
[10:03] <DoctorMO> I need to upgrade this machine but all atempts don't seem to work right. I think perhaps the apt-get is old or it's source websites are incompleat
[10:04] <daven> i think i'm having the same prob :P
[10:04] <daven> what areyou trying to upgrade
[10:04] <DoctorMO> horry to breezy
[10:04] <daven> did you read the section on that from the website?
[10:05] <daven> they don't seem all that detailed though
[10:06] <DoctorMO> I can't seem to find the detils
[10:06] <daven> i'm looking for them now...
[10:07] <daven> crap, saw it earlier today on there now i can't find it!
[10:09] <daven> sorry dude i can't find it now
[10:13] <vikke> Any tips on good music players for linux?
[10:13] <apokryphos> amaroK
[10:13] <apokryphos> !amarok
[10:13] <ubotu> I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[10:13] <djk_> if a dist-upgrade is done, is still everything configured as it was, ie progs, menu etc?
[10:14] <apokryphos> yes
[10:14] <djk_> thanks
[10:29] <osh_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/python/python2.4-profiler <-that seems to indicate that python2.4-profiler is a part of breezy but I'll be damned if I can install it from apt... Anyone know where I can find it?
[10:30] <djk_> osh_: it's in multiverse
[10:30] <osh_> djk_: I've got the multiverse and backports enabled.. I think...
[10:31] <djk_> osh_: check your sources.list then.
[10:33] <osh_> djk_: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse <- that should be enough shouldn't it?
[10:35] <djk_> osh_: you added universe/multiverse to the backports line instead of the proper line..
[10:35] <osh_> djk_: I've just uncommented a line that already was in my sources.list.
[10:38] <djk_> osh_: you should add universe/multiverse to a similar line, which does not mention backports...
[10:39] <osh_> djk_: Adding things to the normal lines worked though. Slightly confusing that the mention of multiverse on one line doesn't mean that multiverse is enabled... ;-)
[10:39] <rubem> hi there
[10:39] <rubem> where can I configure de envoirnements variables such as PATH?
[10:39] <osh_> rubem: .bashrc?
[10:40] <djk_> osh_: well it is, it's just for backports ;)
[10:41] <rubem> osh_ no... i want to configure java
[10:41] <gerst> where can I download a good repository list for kubuntu?
[10:41] <osh_> rubem: yes? why can't you do that in .bashrc?
[10:42] <apokryphos> rubem: to install Java just use the debs
[10:42] <stupendo44> is there a command I can use to manually power-down a drive once it's unmounted?
[10:42] <gerst> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[10:42] <apokryphos> gerst: the main ones have pretty much everything. Only other thing I'd recommend of course is the 3.5 repository
[10:42] <apokryphos> gerst: that'll be blackdown java though
[10:42] <osh_> djk_: Right.
[10:42] <apokryphos> rubem: there are sun-java debs, if you want them
[10:42] <gerst> how can I view wmv files?
[10:42] <apokryphos> !tell rubem about javadebs
[10:43] <rubem> apokryphos where???
[10:43] <gerst> I have installed buch of stuff for it..
[10:43] <apokryphos> gerst: install w32codecs
[10:43] <gerst> i did
[10:43] <gerst> mplayer got fatal error
[10:43] <rubem> apokryphos is that safe??
[10:43] <apokryphos> there's certain wmv that just won't play, I believe. Haven't come across any myself
[10:44] <apokryphos> rubem: yes
[10:44] <rubem> apokryphos thank you :)
[10:44] <apokryphos> they were made with make-jpkg
[10:44] <gerst> damn it is a good porn :DD
[10:44] <rubem> apokryphos too bad it isn't in the repos...
[10:44] <djk_> gerst: porn?
[10:44] <apokryphos> rubem: legal reasons
[10:45] <gerst> that wmv file
[10:45] <gerst> :DD
[10:45] <djk_> ....
[10:45] <rubem> apokryphos Yeah, I know... it's strange since Sun Microsystem is open sourcing his products
[10:45] <gerst> that I couldn play :DD
[10:45] <Evil_Whisper> what?
[10:45] <gerst> bbl
[10:45] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Do you know of any other console based IRC apps?
[10:46] <rubem> apokryphos perheaps soon JDK should back to the repos :)
[10:46] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: I doubt you'd want to use anything other than irssi if you're staying to CLI
[10:46] <apokryphos> rubem: who knows. There's sun jdks on that link too though in the meantime :P
[10:47] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Well I would like a CLI one but I can't seem to be in more then one channel :(
[10:47] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: why, and why?
[10:47] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Most of the GUI ones have way to many features and stuff I'd never use and irssi doesn't have tabs lol :(
[10:47] <ggilbert> Evil_Whisper: If you want a cli irc client, I'd highly recommend irssi
[10:47] <rubem> apokryphos Sun won't let this continue for long...
[10:48] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: irssi probably has far more options than most of them, actually ;-)
[10:48] <Evil_Whisper> ggilbert: How do you switch between channels with irssi without leaving your current channel?
[10:48] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: Konversation is very simplistic though. You find it has too many options?
[10:48] <Evil_Whisper> never tried it apokryphos
[10:48] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: ksirc is probably the most simplistic GUI one though
[10:48] <ggilbert> Evil_Whisper: I haven't been using irssi for a few months now
[10:48] <ggilbert> but I believe /window create is what youw ant
[10:49] <ggilbert> The manual should explain it, I just dont really remember all of the details
[10:49] <Evil_Whisper> ggilbert: /window just outputs what server im on and channels :S
[10:49] <Evil_Whisper> man irssi?
[10:49] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: alt+#windownumber
[10:49] <ggilbert>  try /help
[10:49] <ggilbert> I know it does it, I just dont remember the commands
[10:50] <Evil_Whisper> ahhh thanks apokryphos
[10:50] <Evil_Whisper> woo hoo now if i could get it to allow me to scroll up and check previous msgs I'd be set
[10:50] <apokryphos> Page Up
[10:50] <ggilbert> page up and page down
[10:50] <Evil_Whisper> YAY
[10:50] <Evil_Whisper> thanks :-)
[10:50] <ggilbert> http://irssi.org/documentation/startup
[10:50] <rubem> can I reaload the mounted devices?
[10:51] <Evil_Whisper> is there a wine irc channel?
[10:51] <ggilbert> that looks like it should cover it
[10:51] <apokryphos> rubem: sudo mount -a
[10:51] <rubem> apokryphos you r0x :)
[10:54] <jahshua> hello can someone pleeeeeeeeeeease tell me how to make my gaim im msg with my friend STOP blinking?? i looked all through preferences and i cant find it ... its driving me crazy!
[10:54] <apokryphos> jahshua: in a terminal: killall gaim. Then alt+f2 -> kopete  ;-)
[10:55] <jahshua> yes but i cant file transfer with kopete :(
[10:55] <jahshua> i WAS using it
[10:55] <apokryphos> jahshua: what plugin and what's the error?
[10:55] <jahshua> one sec
[10:55] <stupendo44> did you try /join #gaim
[10:56] <jahshua> ?
[10:56] <stupendo44> Evil_Whisper: yes
[10:56] <Evil_Whisper> stupendo44: Whats wich channel for wine?
[10:56] <apokryphos> jahshua: what protocol? MSN?
[10:56] <stupendo44> Evil_Whisper: #winehq
[10:57] <Evil_Whisper> thanks
[10:57] <Evil_Whisper> on freenode?
[10:57] <stupendo44> si
[10:57] <stupendo44> (yes in spanish, quicker to say)
[10:57] <Evil_Whisper> stupendo44: thanks
[10:57] <apokryphos> stupendo44: definitely not if you have to type that warning after :P
[10:58] <stupendo44> lol
[10:58] <stupendo44> correcto mundo
[10:58] <jahshua> apokryphos : aim
[10:58] <jahshua> i cant use the send file button because its not 'clickable'
[10:58] <apokryphos> ah yeah, I don't think it supports file transfers yet
[10:58] <jahshua> oh ok
[10:59] <apokryphos> but anyway, re: gaim question, you're probably not in the best place. This is #kubuntu  :P
[11:00] <jahshua> well i thought gaim was a kubuntu creation
[11:00] <jahshua> guess not
[11:01] <apokryphos> the "g" is generally a giveaway
[11:01] <apokryphos> the way it looks is probably a bigger giveaway. Clearly GTK :D
[11:01] <jahshua> hmm wow there is a huge gaim channel
[11:01] <jahshua> strange
[11:01] <jahshua> they just chat about gaim ?
[11:01] <jahshua> lol
[11:01] <stupendo44> lol
[11:02] <jahshua> lets chat about a chat program
[11:02] <jahshua> haha
[11:02] <jahshua> :p
[11:02] <apokryphos> 120, yeah, not bad
[11:03] <apokryphos> #amarok gets bigger by the day, it seems, too
[11:13] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: I've located the wine patches I need thanks :-)
[11:14] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: thanks, but I'm pretty sure that's not down to me 8)
[11:15] <thecat12> hey I just installed kubuntu
[11:16] <thecat12> and I wanted to change something in the system settings
[11:16] <thecat12> it asked for my password
[11:16] <thecat12> and when I type it,
[11:16] <thecat12> it says its wrong
[11:16] <apokryphos> thecat12: enable the breezy-updates repository and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:16] <thecat12> and it is clearly mistaken
[11:16] <thecat12> oh
[11:17] <apokryphos> though it still shouldn't tell you the pass is wrong...
[11:17] <thecat12> ok
[11:17] <thecat12> won't it ask for the password for the update?
[11:17] <apokryphos> thecat12: can you sudo things?
[11:17] <obsrv> what software I can use for my WebCam?
[11:17] <apokryphos> If you're sure you're only entering your user pass....
[11:17] <apokryphos> obsrv: Kopete?
[11:18] <thecat12> im sure
[11:18] <obsrv> apokryphos, is there something like WebCamCenter, so I cloud watch whats going on on webcam :)
[11:18] <apokryphos> thecat12: sudo give any errors?
[11:18] <obsrv> capture images, videos...
[11:19] <yan> hello!!!! what is a good irc client for Kubuntu to download movies/appz ?
[11:19] <obsrv> apokryphos, do you know such software?
[11:20] <obsrv> yan, using IRC? Konversation :)
[11:20] <yan> im in konversation now
[11:20] <apokryphos> obsrv: hm, not sure. Konference might have features like that
[11:20] <yan> but i dont know how to download things
[11:20] <obsrv> yan, you might want to try KTorrent or aMule
[11:20] <yan> like from ircspy
[11:20] <yan> nah i dont like torrent / mule
[11:21] <yan> on windows xp i was using Mirc
[11:21] <obsrv> mirc works just like konversation
[11:21] <obsrv> you go to the server, join the channel and ask for files
[11:21] <yan> no cuz if i click an irc link on a website it dont open up konversation
[11:22] <obsrv> what kind of links are they?
[11:22] <obsrv> show them to me
[11:22] <apokryphos> yan: just join the server and the channel and then enter the command it wants to type
[11:22] <yan> priv msg me plz i dont want to do advertising
[11:22] <apokryphos> the ctcp one
[11:22] <yan> nono
[11:22] <apokryphos> yes, it'd work
[11:22] <yan> i know but i dont talk about that
[11:22] <yan> i mean like in ircspy
[11:22] <apokryphos> yes
[11:23] <yan> if i clikc the link on a web site, it tell me that irc protocol isnt linked to any program
[11:23] <yan> i use firefox
[11:24] <apokryphos> yan: yes.... don't click, just use the information it gives you and enter the raw command
[11:24] <apokryphos> pretty easy/quick
[11:24] <yan> i know but i wanted to be able to click then it copy/paste itself
[11:24] <yan> ty anyway
[11:24] <apokryphos> sites like ircspy always set it up specifically for mirc
[11:25] <yan> ok
[11:26] <yan> merry christmass yall
[11:26] <apokryphos> you too =)
[11:29] <yan> damn i love linux
[11:30] <yan> all the trouble i had to install my wmp5gs wifi card + wpa
[11:30] <yan> thats damn nice
[11:34] <yan> yo
[11:34] <yan> XDCC SEND denied, you must be on a known channel to request a pack   tha twas teh rror msg once i try to download osmethign
[11:36] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Yeah without you I would have never found the wine channel :P
[11:37] <apokryphos> yan: you have to join an actual channel before you can request a pack, sure.
[11:37] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: it was someone else who told you 8)
[11:38] <yan> djk, i cant reply u im not registered
[11:38] <apokryphos> !register
[11:38] <ubotu> it has been said that register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[11:38] <yan> apo i did
[11:39] <gerst`na> re
[11:40] <gerst`na> how come that when I lock my session... I cant login after..
[11:40] <gerst`na> like bad password..
[11:40] <yan> huh ill try
[11:40] <gerst`na> wtf?
[11:40] <yan> works perfectly with me
[11:43] <yan> how can i change my keyboard language BEFORE i log in KDE ?? cuz its not same once im logged into KDE..........
[11:43] <yan> like you know, when we choose the keyboard language while installing
[11:48] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: For real? I got confused lol
[11:48] <Evil_Whisper> thanks who ever told me :P
[11:49] <mwe> what's the number beside the new message count showing in kbiff?
[11:56] <thecat12> i just installed kubuntu and I'm continuously being asked to change my password each time I login
[11:57] <gerst`na> than change it
[11:57] <gerst`na> :D
[11:57] <thecat12> I always change it
[11:57] <thecat12> but it keeps asking me to change it
[11:58] <thecat12> "You are required to change your password inmediatly (root enforced)"
[11:58] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: You still here?
[11:58] <gerst`na> maybe your password is weak
[11:58] <gerst`na> or expires
[11:59] <thecat12> why does it expire everytime I login?
[11:59] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: yup
[11:59] <Evil_Whisper> apokryphos: Cool :-) do you know what parts of kopete makes the wine sys tray work?
[11:59] <gerst`na> thecat12,  I dont know
[12:00] <apokryphos> eh?
[12:00] <Evil_Whisper> if I install kopete it makes the wine systray work properly in gnome :O
[12:00] <apokryphos> :|
[12:01] <Evil_Whisper> kschedualer daemon or somthing also works
[12:01] <Evil_Whisper> :S