[18:06] <actionParsnip> foirin: have you checked the file system health in Windows too
[18:06] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, see this  http://pastebin.com/ThDvvQQz
[18:06] <BluesKaj> carmi, try this one sudo aticonfig --tv-overscan=off , the one you posted had 2 n's i scan
[18:07] <actionParsnip> chinneseproduct: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:07] <foirin> the windows opens just fine, i expect the xubuntu recognise this as mass storage
[18:07] <chinneseproduct> okay let me run it actionParsnip
[18:07] <foirin> but not, when i plug it in its just charging!
[18:07] <carmi> BluesKaj: the problem is solved, I solved it with the command "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0 "
[18:07] <actionParsnip> foirin: can you answer my 2 questions please
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: I have asked multiple times...
[18:08] <foirin> ok!
[18:08] <carmi> I guess there are too many command for the same thing ;)
[18:08] <BluesKaj> carmi, cool ,where did you find that >
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: when you unplug it, do you safetly remove it
[18:08] <carmi> Adie found it
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: have you check the file system health in windows
[18:08] <foirin> from windows i dont
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: you MUST
[18:08] <carmi> adie is a user in this chatroom
[18:08] <actionParsnip> foirin: it is there for a REASON
[18:09] <Pici> !who
[18:09] <foirin> yes, is not just mine,  a lot of people ived seen having problem with that
[18:09] <actionParsnip> foirin: if you don't unmount the device properly in Windows it wil be marked as dirty and Linux will have issues with it. You will also not physically damage the device
[18:09] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, its output is precise
[18:10] <actionParsnip> foirin: you as mistreating your device, then are surpricd you are getting issues?
[18:10] <actionParsnip> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[18:10] <foirin> i asked here to see if someone have managed to resolve that problem
[18:10] <carmi> ubottu: !tab is that a command?
[18:10] <actionParsnip> foirin: plug the device into windows and check the device's health
[18:10] <foirin> 10x
[18:10] <cosmicfires> is the Hauppauge 1191 a good choice?
[18:11] <actionParsnip> foirin: then in the system tray, you will see an icon to eject the device safely, use this and I bet it works in Linux without issue
[18:11] <bekks> cosmicfires: Which chipset does that device have?
[18:11] <ThinkT510> !msgthebot | carmi
[18:11] <cosmicfires> WinTV-HVR-950Q is that the chipset?
[18:11] <bekks> cosmicfires: No. Thats the WinTV model number :)
[18:11] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:11] <cosmicfires> which chipset should I look for?
[18:11] <aljosa> which filesystem would you use w/ ubuntu 12.04 installation on ssd disk?
[18:12] <bekks> cosmicfires: The dvb chipset built into that device.
[18:12] <carmi> okok, I see I have to improve my IRC knowledge ;)
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> aljosa, ext4
[18:13] <bekks> cosmicfires: At least that device is about 3 years old.
[18:13] <jshriver> greetings
[18:13] <cosmicfires> I'm looking for the chipset on the hauppauge site
[18:14] <jshriver> Any tips of why a previously working onboard audio device would stop working? I checked pulseaudio and alsamixer and volume is up on everything, and unmuted. However I noticed it only lists HDMI.
[18:14] <sidney_> can i customize the top panel in 12.04
[18:15] <BluesKaj> jshriver, what's your soundcard?
[18:15] <bekks> cosmicfires: I'd buy a current device.
[18:15] <cosmicfires> bekks which chipsets are good with linux?
[18:15] <bekks> !hcl | cosmicfires
[18:15] <jshriver> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[18:15] <jshriver> is what lspci gives me
[18:15] <cosmicfires> thanks
[18:15] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, have  see these http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:16] <BluesKaj> jshriver, try this , aplay -l , it should show the same card
[18:16] <jshriver> hrm it actually gives me 2 (analog, and HDMI)
[18:17] <jshriver> http://pastebin.com/qKcPYdrq
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ok jshriver , what's you preferred connection there?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> your
[18:17] <jshriver> HDA Intel, which is the speaker + audio out jacks.
[18:19] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok the analog device in phonon , is the test audible ?
[18:20] <chinneseproduct> actionParsnip, am waiting for your recommendation on this  http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:20] <jshriver> no, no audio at all
[18:20] <jshriver> and when I go into alsamixer this is what it says:  Chip: Intel IbexPeak HDMI
[18:20] <hilo> Can someone assist or point me in the right direction for a virtualbox issue? I have tried 4.2 and 4.1 both giving the same issue. The vboxweb-service will not start and gives very little output to look for the cause. Any suggestions welcome.
[18:20] <jshriver> which makes me think it's only allowing me to use the HDMI audio out. I tried f6 to select card but that is the only one listed
[18:21] <jshriver> appreciate the help :) never had this happen before.
[18:21] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok , one more command to show us which driver/module is loaded , cat /proc/asound/modules
[18:22] <jshriver>  0 snd_hda_intel
[18:23] <jshriver> if I go the GUI route, Sound Preferencse, and pick Output it only has this listed "Internal Audio Digital Stereo (HDMI)
[18:23] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok it looks like the correct module is loading ,but just to make sure , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[18:24] <jshriver> done
[18:24] <BluesKaj> did the command give any output , if not , then the right module is in use now , jshriver
[18:25] <ThinkT510> carmi: can you see me?
[18:25] <carmi> ThinkT510: Thanks!
[18:26] <jshriver> hrm brb trying diff apps
[18:26] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, can u help me on LAMP installation
[18:26] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: i can't sorry, no experience
[18:26] <BluesKaj> jshriver, one more thing , do you have pavucontrol installed ..it's the pulseaudio GUI and it's setings are quite useful for input and output options and choices
[18:26] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, thenks
[18:27] <jackdup> quick question; when I start typing from the desktop, what is the little box on the bottom right hand corner that pops up like a search bar?
[18:27] <jorvis> good question
[18:27] <BluesKaj> jackdup, what are typing into?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> jackdup: in unity the desktop is like an open instance of nautilus
[18:28] <jackdup> well, I just start typing with no program open and a little search box pops up?
[18:28] <jshriver> odd
[18:28] <jshriver> well now when I turn the volumne up and down I can hear the beep beep sound but still nothing from vlc or mplayer or mplayer -ao alsa
[18:29] <chinneseproduct> anybody with knowledge of LAMP installation
[18:29] <bekks> jackdup: Its a search box for installed programs.
[18:29] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I bet there are.
[18:29] <chinneseproduct> okay beks
[18:29] <jackdup> but if i hit enter, even with the name of an installed program, it just closes, and nothing
[18:29] <chinneseproduct> help me  here
[18:29] <BluesKaj> jshriver, did you see my post about pavucontrol above ?
[18:29] <jshriver> oh let me check
[18:29] <bekks> chinneseproduct: No. First, please just ask what you really want to know :)
[18:30] <jshriver> ty installing now
[18:30] <chinneseproduct> bekks, i want to install LAMP
[18:30] <BluesKaj> !who | jshriver
[18:30] <bekks> chinneseproduct: You've been told several times on how to do it. I've read it.
[18:31] <jshriver> Ubottu: will do, I apologize.
[18:31] <chinneseproduct> bekks, i have tried but wasn't successfully
[18:32] <chinneseproduct> bekks,  thats why am trying to ask other guys
[18:32] <Ririshi> Hey people
[18:32] <bekks> chinneseproduct: So what have you done exactly? what exactly didnt work? Please be much more precise.
[18:32] <Ririshi> I just got ubuntu 12.04.1 installed and I'm TOTALLY new to linux and so, I am new to ubuntu, too.
[18:32] <ThinkT510> !manual | Ririshi
[18:33] <Ririshi> thank you ThinkT510 :D
[18:33] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks  see this http://pastebin.com/KGhhQWDg
[18:33] <MonkeyDu1t> Ririshi  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise
[18:33] <jshriver> BluesKaj: hrm still not working. I'll tinker with it later this evening. Seems like the alsa module can see both output channels, but the pulse audio system only sees HDMI as a viable output device.  Thanks for the help though and have a good day :)
[18:34] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Well, then install apache2, mysql, php without tasksel.
[18:35] <BluesKaj> jshriver, the pavucontrol has dropdowns that should show your analog output device
[18:35] <chinneseproduct> bekks, even that fails
[18:35] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Because...? What exactly have you tried, what exactly happened?
[18:35] <jshriver> BlueSkaj aye, but sadly it doesn't does list Analog Input though, but not output
[18:36] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://pastebin.com/WeTvKUym
[18:37] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: could you please run `sudo apt-get update`?
[18:37] <chinneseproduct> valterguy, already run updates
[18:38] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Why dont you install apache2-mpm-prefork when it is required, as mentioned in the error message?
[18:38] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: I still think these problems stem from having that "proposed" repo enabled
[18:38] <Ririshi> Is there  a way to set the "executable program" as a standard in properties? making every file executable as program standardly? or is that only harmful? (I'm already pist by this >.<)
[18:39] <VonWhistler> i have statically configured 3 network devices in /etc/network/interfaces all on the same network (Vmware NAT) . However, only one of them gets connectivity, and it seems to randomly choose which eth device upon each reboot, whats up? 12.04 server
[18:39] <jrib> Ririshi: that's not a good idea.  Why do you want to do that?
[18:39] <ardchoille> Ririshi: I can't even begin to tell you how unsafe and insecure that would be
[18:39] <BluesKaj> jshriver, ok , edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as root, and add the the line to the bottom , options snd_hda_intel index=0 , save the file and reboot
[18:39] <VonWhistler> Von ps I have created 3 NICS in vmware, and ifconfig ethx shows each having unique MAC addresses
[18:39] <Ririshi> jrib: ardchoille: it would make my life easier imo..
[18:40] <jrib> Ririshi: how so?
[18:40] <yekoms> what would cause a uptime drift? i started two machines, 2 minutes apart, now the uptime is 6 minutes apart
[18:40] <yekoms> ubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 8.04 here.
[18:40] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://pastebin.com/fjH9rs5w
[18:40] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: did you set a default gateway for all 3 interfaces?
[18:40] <VonWhistler> yes
[18:40] <jrib> yekoms: maybe the times were off when you first started (note I don't actually know if this would matter)
[18:40] <ardchoille> Ririshi: Trust me, you don't want to do that. It sounds good now but your system would suffer in the long run
[18:41] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: that's why then, only set one with a gateway
[18:41] <yekoms> you mean the system time? those are set VIA ntpd
[18:41] <carmi> Hello, what are your experiences with watching youtube videos and your cpu performance. Some time the systemmonitor shows my an usage of over 90%. (Intel Core 2 Duo)
[18:41] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, lets see bekks
[18:41] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, yes. when i type "ifup ethX" for the non-working devices it says failed to bring up
[18:41] <root_> hello
[18:41] <yekoms> carmi, that is normal.
[18:41] <jrib> yekoms: well maybe ntpd fixed the times too late.  Again, I'm just making a guess
[18:41] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: please don't highlight me, I can
[18:41] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, meaning i should globally specify the gateway?
[18:41] <ardchoille> t be of any further help
[18:41] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: you will kill routing with 3 interfaces on the same subnet all with a gateway defined
[18:41] <root_> some one can help me ,
[18:41] <yekoms> i didnt think the timesync would cause that.
[18:42] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: no, set one interface with a gateway, the others not
[18:42] <yekoms> the timestamps on both servers are identical.
[18:42] <chinneseproduct> ok ardchoille
[18:42] <jrib> yekoms: now
[18:42] <Ririshi> ardchoille: okay then
[18:42] <bekks> chinneseproduct: disable the proposed repo, and rerun sudo apt-get update please.
[18:42] <carmi> yekoms: but sometime there are too less frames and I want to use this computer as multimedia station
[18:42] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, how will the other interfaces know how to communicate with nodes not on their subnet?
[18:42] <yekoms> carmi, then set it up for HIGH PERF.
[18:42] <chinneseproduct> bekks, how can disable the repo proposed
[18:42] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: didn't you say they were all in the same subnet?
[18:42] <bekks> chinneseproduct: How did you enable it? :)
[18:43] <Ramtron> hiiii how do you mount an iso and install it, in Linux, with wine?
[18:43] <carmi> yekoms: you mean I have an to old computer for my requests?
[18:43] <chinneseproduct> bekks, give the command  to run
[18:43] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Answer my question.
[18:43] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: only one interface needs a gateway, the others will be internal interfaces
[18:43] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, yes that does make sense, i will see if that helps
[18:43] <chinneseproduct> bekks from sudo apt-get install
[18:43] <yekoms> isnt the core duo a 2 core cpu carmi?
[18:43] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Impossible. Using apt-get install, you cannot enable or disable a repo.
[18:44] <carmi> yekoms: it is
[18:44] <bobo37773> root____2: whats up?
[18:44] <Ramtron> Anyone wanna help me mount an ISO and install it in Linux :D?
[18:44] <yekoms> then it is kind of old. but it can be done. increase the ram will help. and raise your swap from 2g to 4g
[18:44] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, perhaps this is a poor idea, but i feel as if two interfaces would need to have a gateway, i want to have a specific device that i only use for incoming ssh connections and another which is used to handle incoming apache connections
[18:44] <actionParsnip> Ramtron:
[18:44] <yekoms> that'll boost some performance, but not alot
[18:44] <Ramtron> Oh?
[18:44] <jshriver> BluesKaj: it works now :) rebooted and for whatever reason it comes up now lol. Haev a good day.
[18:44] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, is this a pointless configuration
[18:44] <actionParsnip> Ramtron: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/filename.iso /media/iso
[18:45] <jshriver> BluesKaj: must have been modules gnomes :)
[18:45] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: how do you mean?
[18:45] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Take a look at this site, and use it to DISABLE the proposed repo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[18:45] <Ramtron> I'll try it!
[18:45] <carmi> yekoms: I have 4GB ram in it, that should not be the reason
[18:45] <jordanm> VonWhistler: its useless unless each interface have their own pool of bandwidth eg don't connect to the same gateway
[18:45] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, I was hoping i could bring down given interfaces (as this is a loadbalanced apache setup) while still keeping my open ssh connection in tact
[18:45] <yekoms> well, what is it doing
[18:45] <actionParsnip> Ramtron: there is an app called mounty too, the mount command is childishly simple
[18:46] <yekoms> ALL flash runs a lil screwed up on linux..and i have a 8 core Intel 3200K with 16GB of ram.
[18:46] <jordanm> VonWhistler: why not just stop apache?
[18:46] <yekoms> i3200K
[18:46] <Ramtron> I'll look it up if this doesn''t work, thanks!
[18:46] <carmi> yekoms: nothing except systemmonitor and firefox and youtube, wait a mom, i will look which process cause the high usage
[18:46] <yekoms> firefox itself uses ram like a whore uses condoms without flash.
[18:46] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: you can use an interface for each service, you will still have the same central point / router so you won't really gain much
[18:47] <yekoms> i got my firefox open to about:firefox, which is a non html page and its used 119MB
[18:47] <IdleOne> yekoms: Please keep your examples family friendly
[18:47] <actionParsnip> yekoms: try chrome :)
[18:47] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: could you run `dpkg --list | grep '^i' | grep -v '^ii'` and see if you get any output
[18:47] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, okay, i am going to remove the default gateway from all but one of the interfaces and report back. thanks.
[18:48] <nvictor> hey guys, how does group ownership settings affects the removal of a file ? can the root user remove a file owned by a group which is not root ?
[18:48] <actionParsnip> nvictor: root can do anything
[18:49] <nvictor> i see thanks actionParsnip
[18:49] <jordanm> nvictor: file removal depends on the permissions on the directory, not the file itself
[18:50] <nvictor> jordanm, yes indeed. the directory's group is not root either
[18:50] <yekoms> actionParsnip,  i hate google chrome...
[18:50] <yekoms> bloated software :/ i like dolphin over chrome lol
[18:50] <jordanm> nvictor: the only way to prevent root from removing a file is to set the immutable attribute on it
[18:51] <quatar> hi all. I'm installing ubuntu alongside win7 on a new laptop. THe advanced partit. utility shows /dev/sda with 3 partitions (sda1,2,3) weighting 17, 0.4 and 622 GB. It's strange that the partitioning tool allows me to choose also "/dev/sdb" for installing the boot loader...
[18:51] <quatar> Anyway, what I want is to cut half the space of windows for putting ubntu
[18:51] <quatar> what should I do..?
[18:51] <actionParsnip> yekoms: uses fewer resources here
[18:52] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://imagebin.org/231306
[18:52] <yekoms> are you AMD or iNTEL actionParsnip ?
[18:52] <carmi> yekoms:  it is the plugin-container which uses the most of the cpu resources
[18:53] <yekoms> carmi, thats the flash plugin....
[18:53] <actionParsnip> yekoms: If I had to buy then AMD but without inbuilt video
[18:53] <actionParsnip> yekoms: or Intek without inbuilt video
[18:53] <jordanm> quatar: if you are installing from a usb drive, then that is your /dev/sdb. install the bootloader to the MBR in /dev/sda
[18:53] <carmi> yekoms: How could I improve the performance?
[18:53] <chinneseproduct> valterguy, it blinking
[18:53] <VonWhistler> actionParsnip, wow that was toally breaking my networking. i wish there had been a clear error somewhere. I was looking in dmesg, but nothing. Thanks a lot
[18:53] <quatar> the really strange thing is that the basic partitioning tool (the one with a simple slider) doesn't show the icons "ubuntu" and "windows"
[18:53] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Then provide the output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade please, in a pastebin.
[18:53] <actionParsnip> VonWhistler: simple networking dude
[18:53] <yekoms> carmi, im not sure how to improve flash performance...
[18:53] <actionParsnip> yekoms: why'd you ask?
[18:53] <quatar> jordanm: why the basic partitioning tool doesn't show me what the two sides are for?
[18:54] <yekoms> actionParsnip, ill never own AMD for daily use, just server, and i like onboard video support for both.
[18:54] <quatar> I'm a little bit afraid of going on...
[18:54] <jordanm> quatar: it should show you ext3/4 vs ntfs
[18:54] <carmi> yekoms: But that behavour is only under linux, or?
[18:54] <actionParsnip> yekoms: I always buy nvidia GPU due to Linux support :)
[18:55] <yekoms> its on windows too carmi
[18:55] <yekoms> ive noticed HIGH cpu/ram with firefox when watching flash carmi
[18:55] <Domincii> Hey Ubuntu, I have an .iso file with a Windows install on it, is there any way I can run it without putting it on to a disk/USB?
[18:55] <quatar> jordanm: mmh probably I should start again explaining. When I first open the installer, I choose "install ubuntu alongside win7", and I found a slider with no labels at all. Then I choose the advanced partitioning tool, which doesn't allow me to "split" an existing partition without formatting it all
[18:55] <actionParsnip> Domincii: virtualbox
[18:55] <yekoms> Domincii, vboxx
[18:55] <carmi> yekoms:  so in the end if have to invest in a new PC?
[18:56] <Domincii> actionparsnip + yekoms, Oracle VM VirtualBox, hows that one?
[18:56] <actionParsnip> quatar: resize the NTFS in WIndows7 and install to the new freed space. Be sure to run a full backup in case of catastrophe
[18:56] <yekoms> i wouldnt say that. what exactly is it doing wrong?
[18:56] <actionParsnip> Domincii: its fine, its in the repos too
[18:57] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267972/
[18:57] <quatar> actionParsnip: no backup needed, since the computer was bought two hours ago, fortunately :)
[18:57] <Domincii> actionparsnip, thanks buddy, do i just mount the .iso to it and run it?
[18:57] <carmi> Have a nice day, bye
[18:58] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Then run: sudo apt-get install apache2 now
[18:58] <actionParsnip> Domincii: no need, vbox can work on ISOs as is, no need to mount
[18:58] <quatar> actionParsnip: jordanm: anyway, this was the situation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150550/installing-ubuntu-with-windows-which-is-left-and-right-when-allocating-space unfortunately a bug that make me a little bit afraid of going on
[18:58] <actionParsnip> quatar: nice, resize and install
[18:58] <actionParsnip> quatar: resize in win7
[18:59] <quatar> actionParsnip: is it possible?
[18:59] <actionParsnip> quatar: I wouldn't say it if it wasn't
[18:59] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267981/
[18:59] <quatar> actionParsnip: is it there a guide? and will it just free the space or also format it someway?
[18:59] <actionParsnip> quatar: plenty online, youtube etc
[19:00] <quatar> actionParsnip: thx
[19:00] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: what do you mean 'blinking'
[19:00] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[19:00] <actionParsnip> quatar: just free the space, windows formatting isn't appropriate for Linux installs
[19:00] <chinneseproduct> valterguy, after run yuor command
[19:00] <valterguy> chinneseproduct: but no output?
[19:00] <quatar> actionParsnip: yes I know :)
[19:00] <devslash> I'm running ubuntu server and have forwarded a few ports to it for different purposes. I have shore wall firewall installed. Are there any other extra precautions that I should take when port forwarding to prevent unauthorized access ?
[19:00] <quatar> I just wanted to make sure not to find a new ntfs partition :P
[19:00] <chinneseproduct> yes no output valterguy
[19:01] <bekks> valterguy: We just ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, he's current now. :)
[19:01] <Domincii> actionparsnip, I assume I need to run it from terminal, could you help me to do so?
[19:01] <bekks> chinneseproduct: We can move on, we ran that commands too...
[19:01] <valterguy> bekks: i was just also checking if he had unconfigured packages. sorry if i missed something.
[19:01] <actionParsnip> Domincii: run what?
[19:01] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267990/
[19:01] <yekoms> vbox has a menu entry Domincii
[19:02] <bekks> valterguy: No problem :) Currently, we're checking wether all needed packages are installed.
[19:02] <valterguy> bekks: there we go. :)
[19:02] <Domincii> actionparsnip, yekoms, thank you, found it now
[19:02] <devslash> anyone ?
[19:04] <hardy> hi
[19:04] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php5
[19:04] <hardy> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[19:04] <bekks> !de | hardy
[19:05] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267995/
[19:05] <hardy> bekks:  dankeschön
[19:06] <bekks> chinneseproduct: What happens here: sudo apt-get install php5
[19:08] <ziggyzero> **FIXED** All thanks for the suggestions with my MP3 issue. It was that the MP3 headers were corrupt. Running them through mp3val restored :-) I think was able to analyse them with mp3gain and apply the gain adjustments. Thanks.
[19:08] <Yourdaddy> Good morning. I am having issues launching qbittorent as it will not launch when clicking the icon. Is their a way to open in termina?
[19:08] <Yourdaddy> terminal
[19:09] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268002/ bekks
[19:09] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268002/
[19:09] <BluesKaj> Yourdaddy, yes type qbittorrent  either in the terminal or the run command , alt+f2
[19:11] <varikonniemi> jockey-gtk does not seem to find drivers for my geforce 2 mx
[19:11] <Ririshi> Could you help me?
[19:11] <Yourdaddy> this message comes up..called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
[19:11] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: i believe that will use the nouveau driver
[19:11] <Yourdaddy>   what():  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
[19:11] <Yourdaddy> Aborted (core dumped)
[19:11] <Ririshi> I got two questions: what's a good free IRC client for ubuntu 12.04? and two: could you help me with my MCPatcher minecraft error?
[19:11] <varikonniemi> actionParsnip, the proprietary owuld be faster
[19:12] <BluesKaj> varikonniemi, is nouveau working ok  ?
[19:12] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: i don't believe its supported by the proprietary driver
[19:12] <varikonniemi> in unity 2d yesw
[19:12] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:12] <varikonniemi> yes the legacy driver supports it?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> varikonniemi, then install nvidia-current and reboot
[19:12] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: i use pidgin and irssi
[19:13] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: are those GUI clients? because I'm a windows user and I'm totally used to n1 GUI stuff
[19:13] <Domincii> actionparsnip, i'm currently installing Windows via the virtual machine, once it's installed will I be able to use windows via the Gnome boot menu or will I only be able to use Windows from within Ubutu via the Virtual Machine?
[19:13] <varikonniemi> i dl'ed the driver from nvidias site
[19:13] <varikonniemi> installed it, and now the computer does not start
[19:14] <Yourdaddy> ideas on how to resolve this issue?called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
[19:14] <BluesKaj> no , don't use that one varikonniemi , try the nvidia-current driver first
[19:14] <Yourdaddy>   what():  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
[19:14] <Yourdaddy> Aborted (core dumped)
[19:14] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268012/
[19:14] <varikonniemi> yes i am now in recovery console and try to get system up
[19:14] <devslash> I'm running ubuntu server and have forwarded a few ports to it for different purposes. I have shore wall firewall installed. Are there any other extra precautions that I should take when port forwarding to prevent unauthorized access ?
[19:14] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268012/
[19:14] <bekks> chinneseproduct: You dont have to paste it twice.
[19:15] <quatar> actionParsnip: i've resized the win partition from win itself. Now I'm letting win7 recognize its new partition table, rebooting. But.. now I'm going to have the freed space ready for Ubuntu. I usually do a swap partition and a "/" partition. But if Windows is already using 3 partitions, I will not be able to have a swap for linux, will I?
[19:15] <chinneseproduct> bekks, thanks for ya following
[19:15] <BluesKaj> varikonniemi, ok in that case install nvidia-current , then do sudo nvidia-xconfig , the reboot
[19:15] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[19:15] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork
[19:15] <actionParsnip> quatar: make the space an extended partition and you can add as many partitions as you need
[19:16] <bekks> quatar: Wrong.
[19:16] <quatar> "extended"? I only know about primary or logic..
[19:16] <jo__> guys any one here know python
[19:16] <jo__> ?
[19:16] <quatar> ok thx, I'll stop foreseeing the future and I'll wait gparted to prompt :P
[19:16] <actionParsnip> jo__: try in #python
[19:16] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268017/
[19:16] <jo__> thanks
[19:17] <BluesKaj> quatar, you can always make a swapfile instead of a swap partition if you need it
[19:17] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: pidgin is GUI
[19:17] <varikonniemi> BluesKaj, thanks for the tips, will try
[19:17] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: okay cool.
[19:17] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: nvidia-96 may drive it.
[19:17] <quatar> BluesKaj: to be honest I have no idea what swaps are for
[19:17] <actionParsnip> !info nvidia-96
[19:17] <BluesKaj> !sawp | quatar
[19:18] <Ririshi> eh how do I install tar.gz packages? Sorry for not knowing :$ I'm totally new to ubuntu :p
[19:18] <quatar> !swap
[19:18] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[19:18] <actionParsnip> quatar: its like swap space in Windows
[19:18] <varikonniemi> Ririshi, extract it
[19:18] <BluesKaj> !swap | quatar
[19:18] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: just exctract?
[19:18] <quatar> ahah thx (ok, it's kinda what i knew...)
[19:18] <varikonniemi> actionParsnip, so is it nvidia-96 or nvidia-current
[19:18] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: sounds rather easy ;p
[19:18] <varikonniemi> Ririshi, then follow instructions
[19:19] <varikonniemi> it can be just to run, or to vuild, or to install
[19:19] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: what instructions? I download it, then how should I open it first?
[19:19] <varikonniemi> see included readme or howto or similar
[19:19] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-cache policy apache2.2-common
[19:19] <actionParsnip> varikonniemi: try either, you'll need to remove one before trying the other
[19:19] <varikonniemi> just right click and extract
[19:20] <B111> tu-de
[19:20] <Ririshi> varikonniemi: okay cool :D
[19:20] <varikonniemi> bp
[19:20] <varikonniemi> np
[19:21] <devslash> I'm running ubuntu server and have forwarded a few ports to it for different purposes. I have shore wall firewall installed. Are there any other extra precautions that I should take when port forwarding to prevent unauthorized access ?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> devslash  there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:22] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268030/
[19:25] <quatar> so, bekks, actionParsnip should I create first a "logic" swap partition, then a "logic" "/" partition?
[19:26] <devslash> MonkeyDust: thanks but no one in there is talking
[19:26] <actionParsnip> quatar: yes, 2 logical partitions on the extended partition
[19:27] <Ririshi1> actionParsnip: got pidgin now :D
[19:27] <Nosophorus> hi
[19:27] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I suspect your mirror tz.archive.ubuntu.com is not in sync with the other mirrors. Go into the repo settings and just use archive.ubuntu.com instead of your localized mirror.
[19:27] <quatar> actionParsnip: no, it's difficult for me... what's an extended partition?
[19:27] <actionParsnip> quatar: its a workaround implemented ages ago to get around the limitation of 4 primary partitions
[19:27] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: on pidgin now :D
[19:27] <quatar> actionParsnip: when I choose "Add partition" on the free space, I just have the choice "Logic"/"Primary"
[19:27] <actionParsnip> quatar: so you have 3 primary partitions and one extended parttion
[19:28] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: some love it, some hate it. For me its a 12 year habit :)
[19:28] <quatar> should the word "extended" be written somewhere?
[19:29] <chinneseproduct> bekks, i select from the main server
[19:29] <quatar> ok, K.I.S.S.: the situation: after /dev/sda3 I have 300GB of free space... I click "Add" then I select what? actionParsnip
[19:29] <Nosophorus> does someone know when will be the next MATE release?
[19:30] <phoenix211> hi, is there a tool to scale some pictures down for faster email sending?
[19:30] <actionParsnip> Nosophorus: mate isn't supported here
[19:30] <actionParsnip> phoenix211: imagemagick can do it
[19:30] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Yes.
[19:30] <bekks> chinneseproduct: After that, rerun sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:30] <quatar> phoenix211: for single pictures, just open them with gimp. For batch processing, "mogrify" (a command line tool) will help you
[19:31] <schultza> on ubuntu 12.04 i've caused a login loop or lightdm loop.. even after a reboot.. it's still happening. i dont want to reimage the machine, how do i get it to stop
[19:31] <Nosophorus> actionParsnip: why not?
[19:31] <actionParsnip> quatar: make a new extended partition on the freed space. Then make your usual Linux partitions as you desire
[19:31] <christop1> heya, I'm trying to set up a sip account in empathy, installed telepathy-rakia (and even -sofiasip) but there's nothing that sounds like SIP when I go to g-o-a, is there any other place to add a sip account or do I have to install something else?
[19:31] <phoenix211> I know mogrify, but looking for a GUI tool for unexperienced linux users
[19:31] <quatar> actionParsnip: "extended" is not among the choices!!
[19:31] <schultza> i did a ssh -X machine and export DISPLAY=:1 and stuff to the otherm achine.. and its locked in loopback on login
[19:31] <actionParsnip> quatar: make a logical partition then. I believe it manages it all
[19:32] <superpie> sony is getting idiotic
[19:32] <chinneseproduct> bekks,  its on progress
[19:32] <quatar> actionParsnip: ok. sorry :)
[19:33] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: I'll get used to it (:
[19:33] <superpie> ps3v1: linux, ps2 compatibility
[19:33] <superpie> ps3v2: no
[19:33] <simmel> I'm trying to generate apparmor profiles using aa-complain and aa-logprof but my profiles are almost completely empty, no rules are generated at all. http://pastie.org/private/uoulvjifwy8dkvpgiwjwsw
[19:33] <superpie> ps3v3: lol we put the insides into a new and improved cardboard box, guys!
[19:33] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268052/
[19:34] <quatar> actionParsnip: last question. After creating a logical swap partition, for the next partition it didn't ask me about the type of partition but just its size. I think it's ok, isn't it? It handled it the only possible way?
[19:35] <actionParsnip> quatar: as long as you can make the partition, you are golden
[19:36] <quatar> ok so i proceed. thanks
[19:36] <christop1> so, nobody tried telepathy-rakia yet? this is on 12.10 beta btw
[19:37] <thomasd> Hello I added a minecraft.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications
[19:37] <bekks> chinneseproduct: and no packages were upgraded?
[19:37] <thomasd> however it's not showing up under games what step am i missing?
[19:37] <Ryukoji> christop1, ill try it sec
[19:37] <chinneseproduct> let me chek bekks
[19:38] <chinneseproduct> bekks, 0 upgraded 0 installed 0 to remove
[19:40] <actionParsnip> christop1: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal support until release day
[19:40] <actionParsnip> thomasd: you need a launcher in /usr/share/applications to run it
[19:41] <bekks> chinneseproduct: And again: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[19:41] <MikeWorth> Hi, I'm trying to solve a problem with truecrypt that is giving me an inode number; I've tried grepping the results of  "ls -liR /", but get no results. Is it possible that there is an inode not referenced to a file? I'm still a bit foggy on inodes so I might have got this wrong...
[19:42] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268073/
[19:43] <christop1> actionParsnip: well, I'm not sure if it's 12.10 related, but will do, ty
[19:43] <thomasd> actionParsnip: that wasn't it the system should also check ./local/share/applications I actualy forgot to add a .desktop to the end of the file name but the file browser just delt with it anyway. thank you for your help though
[19:44] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268073/
[19:44] <actionParsnip> thomasd: without a .desktop file it won't appear in dash etc. They are simple to make
[19:44] <steveydevey> How can you "sudo -i" if you're using a private key instead of a password for authentication?
[19:46] <ziggyzero> **FIXED** All thanks for the suggestions with my MP3 issue. It was that the MP3 headers were corrupt. Running them through mp3val restored :-) I think was able to analyse them with mp3gain and apply the gain adjustments. Thanks.
[19:46] <AdrienG> I am here to lodge an urgent complaint of highest importance.
[19:46] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install -f
[19:46] <Lasivian> is there a way to upgrade the OS (IE, new version) from Apt?
[19:46] <thomasd> actionParsnip I made one butfor got to make it a .desktop
[19:46] <bekks> chinneseproduct: And after that: sudp dpkg --configure -a
[19:46] <Lasivian> not just "apt-get upgrade", but rather 11.04 to 12.04
[19:47] <bekks> chinneseproduct: That dpkg command will run for a few minutes and will not produce much output :)
[19:47] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268086/
[19:47] <AdrienG> I have recently became aware of a gravest sin, ubuntu on phones.
[19:47] <AdrienG> what are you going to do about this gross negligence?
[19:47] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: how do I turn off the entered the room and left the room stuff? it's very annoying. and whenever I type ', it goes on top of the character, instead of before it..
[19:48] <ardchoille> Ririshi: are you using xchat?
[19:48] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: in the main pidgin window, under the plugins dropdown you can enable the hide join/parts plugin
[19:48] <erasmus> chat is terrible
[19:48] <erasmus> xchat
[19:48] <actionParsnip> ardchoille: pidgin
[19:49] <erasmus> I am in 5 channels while connected to 1 networks. I have 0 o:lines, 0 ops, 0 halfops, and 1 voices with power over 0 individual users.
[19:49] <Ririshi> Iḿ using pidgin indeed
[19:49] <erasmus> I am within the channels #reddit-nootropics, #reddit-depression, #/r/ADHD, and #ubuntu on the freenode IRC Network.
[19:49] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: see above ^
[19:49] <chinneseproduct> bekks,  sudo dpkg --configure -a       doesnt gv output
[19:50] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I just told you that :)
[19:50] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: thanks, way better now ;p
[19:50] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks
[19:50] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Let it run, it will take a few minutes and will finish :)
[19:50] <guntbert> steveydevey: you still have a password set, use it
[19:50] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: np
[19:52] <chinneseproduct> bekks, ready
[19:52] <bekks> chinneseproduct: And no output?
[19:52] <guntbert> !upgrade | Lasivian
[19:53] <chinneseproduct> yes no output bekks
[19:55] <cosmicfires> bekks is the em2880 chipsets are good with linux?
[19:55] <fachex> i need help
[19:55] <bekks> cosmicfires: No. Throw them away as far as you can.
[19:55] <fachex> Ubuntu cannot connect to the internet
[19:56] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[19:56] <fachex> ubuntu 12.04
[19:56] <cosmicfires> how about DiB0700 ?
[19:56] <bekks> cosmicfires: Wonderful :)
[19:56] <cosmicfires> thanks :)
[19:56] <bekks> cosmicfires: you're welcome :)
[19:56] <Ririshi> I downloaded the official java from java.com and used tar to unzip it
[19:57] <actionParsnip> cosmicfires: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices
[19:57] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268106/
[19:57] <Ririshi> So now.. what? I try ./configure but it says "bash:no such file or directory"
[19:57] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[19:57] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: no need
[19:57] <elfranne> on a router you can use QOS  ... what can be used for a similar effect on a single machine ?
[19:57] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: I'll try that
[19:57] <fachex> any hint why Ubuntu 12.04 will not connect to the internet? it works fine on the network, and they weird thing is that I have a vmware machine running and the virtual server does connect to the internet.
[19:58] <nvictor> Ririshi, i like your handle :>
[19:58] <schultza> how do i stop a reaccuring login screen?
[19:58] <jiffe98> if I wanted to find out what configure options to build a package with so I can build a newer version the same way how might I do that?
[19:58] <Ririshi> nvictor: huh what?
[19:58] <schultza> s/reaccuring/re-occuring
[19:59] <quatar> Hi all. It's the first time I install an ubuntu-desktop on a laptop with ATI radeon graphics. When installing NVIDIA I always found that the nvidia-current drivers were "raccomended". With ATI, altough it recognizes that I need 3d acceleration, it just tell me that fglrx's are available, but doesn't put "reccomended" next to them. Should I acivate them? The standard or the updated post-release?
[19:59] <nvictor> Ririshi, ririshi is pretty, sounds japanese or something
[19:59] <Ririshi> nvictor: yes it is Japanese (:
[20:00] <Ririshi> So.. I can't choose to start my minecraft.jar with java 7?
[20:00] <Ririshi> I can choose OpenJDK 6, but not normal java 7
[20:00] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork
[20:01] <fachex> any hint why Ubuntu 12.04 will not connect to the internet? it works fine on the network, and they weird thing is that I have a vmware machine running and the virtual server does connect to the internet.
[20:02] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268118/
[20:03] <Ririshi> what should i do now? ):
[20:04] <bekks> chinneseproduct: sudo apt-get install -f apache2-mpm-prefork
[20:04] <Ririshi> I can only choose Java 7 Web Start ): It's not in the app list..
[20:05] <chinneseproduct> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268126/
[20:05] <chinneseproduct> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268126/
[20:06] <varikonniemi> nvidia-96 needs xorg abi 10, why is it even in precise when it has abi11 ??
[20:07] <Ririshi> Why doesn't anyone help me ):
[20:07] <netmk> j c
[20:07] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: haven't I been helping you ?
[20:08] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yes, but...
[20:08] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: but what>
[20:08] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: I can't choose Java 7 to start my .jar files
[20:08] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: the java binary is a symlink to the oracle java
[20:08] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: what does that mean?
[20:08] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: run:  java -version
[20:09] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: already did..
[20:09] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: does it point to the oracle java?
[20:09] <Ririshi> actionParsnip:
[20:09] <Ririshi> java version "1.7.0_07"
[20:09] <Ririshi> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_07-b10)
[20:09] <Ririshi> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.3-b01, mixed mode)
[20:09] <FloodBot1> Ririshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <Ririshi> sorry -.-
[20:10] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: and the ouput of:   file `which java`
[20:10] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: where do i find that?
[20:10] <pdayton> Does anyone know if or where I could get an root signed SSL certificate, so I do not need to install an intermediate bundle on my web server?
[20:10] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Then, I am out of clues. Maybe someone else has another idea, on why apache2-mpm-prefork keeps bailing out when trying to install it.
[20:10] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I'm sorry.
[20:11] <yxkvast> Can you use jabbler to talk with ppl on msn (i dont use msn, but liked to talk with some ppl on msn, but is thinking of using jabbler instead that i have in my mebu)
[20:11] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: its a terminal command....
[20:11] <blazinbass> Is ubuntu 2d the fastest setting I can set my GUI to?
[20:11] <blazinbass> in 12.04?
[20:11] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: /usr/bin/java: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/java'
[20:11] <blazinbass> I've noticed ugrading to 12.04 has really slowed my system down
[20:12] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: ok and the output of:   file /etc/alternatives/java
[20:12] <ardchoille> actionParsnip: bet that is symlinked to the oracle java
[20:12] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: /etc/alternatives/java: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java'
[20:12] <actionParsnip> ardchoille: me too
[20:12] <dr_willis> blazinbass:  lubuntu is lighter
[20:12] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: so there you go, its the oracle java, think about it
[20:13] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: eh...
[20:13] <blazinbass> dr_willis: how do i switch to that?
[20:13] <dr_willis> blazinbass:  install lubuntu-desktop package
[20:13] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: so when you run:  java something.jar    you are really running:  usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java something.jar
[20:13] <blazinbass> dr_willis: will i still have all my files?
[20:14] <developer> my hardon keeps me warm
[20:14] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: what does that mean?
[20:14] <adamsobotka> hi
[20:14] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks thanks for your concern
[20:14] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: its the oracle java. Isnt that glaringly obvious from the folder names?
[20:14] <developer> anyone know a good server for warez?
[20:14] <actionParsnip> developer: that is offtopic here
[20:14] <developer> can someone private message me?
[20:14] <blazinbass> dr_willis: that command doesn't work in my terminal
[20:14]  * STMelon smells a ban coming
[20:14] <adamsobotka> Please how i can make hashtag ?? (keyboard shortcut)
[20:14] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: so what does that do to my problem? >.<
[20:15] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: whenever you run the java command, you will be using the Oracle java
[20:15] <adamsobotka> Please how i can make hashtag ?? (keyboard shortcut)
[20:15] <dr_willis> blazinbass: what command
[20:15] <developer> is it possible to ddos etc.enterthegame.com ?
[20:15] <blazinbass> dr_willis: to install lubuntu
[20:15] <STMelon> blazinbass: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:15] <STMelon> ?
[20:15] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yes, but how do I make a shortcut to use that java for starting my minecraft?
[20:15] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: isn't that what you wanted?
[20:15] <blazinbass> dr_willis: i want to install it without losing my files
[20:15] <developer> sorry wrong room
[20:16] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: your backups will ensure data integrity
[20:16] <dr_willis> blazinbass:  yes.. thats how it works....
[20:16] <netmk> developer: are you retarded?
[20:16] <developer> can someone explain to me or know a good page that explains how i can install subversion on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:16] <blazinbass> thank you very much guys
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> netmk  ignore him
[20:16] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: if you copy one of the .desktop files for ~/.config/autostart    you can edit it to run what you need
[20:16] <dr_willis> blazinbass: yiu can have a dozed different desktops installed
[20:16] <blazinbass> what is the best epub reader i can download for ubuntu also?
[20:16] <jordanm> developer: the same way you install any other application
[20:17] <developer> /echo $server
[20:17] <guntbert> !best | blazinbass
[20:17] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: there is no single best application for anything, in any OS
[20:17] <netmk> blazinbass: Calibre
[20:17] <chinneseproduct> bekks, tomorrow we gonna proceed
[20:17] <blazinbass> netmk: thanks
[20:17] <blazinbass> you guys are very kind here
[20:17] <blazinbass> and helpful
[20:17] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: its as intelligent as asking what the best colour of the rainbow is, none are best, you will only get opinions
[20:17] <blazinbass> so lubuntu is a desktop....I have to HAVE 12.04 installed to use it?
[20:17] <dr_willis> calibre is a must have for ebook ussage. ;-)
[20:18] <developer> @jordanm , i wnat to set the folder /var/www to a repo. but i dont it to store all teh files visible in that directory that belont to the repo
[20:18] <blazinbass> actionParsnip: I agree with your analogy :)
[20:18] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: you can install lubuntu-desktop on all the supported releases
[20:18] <dr_willis> blazinbass: its one of several y
[20:18] <jordanm> developer: that's a completely different question than asking how to install svn. try #subversion
[20:18] <developer> jordanm : thnx
[20:19] <jordanm> developer: or look into mod_svn yourself
[20:19] <developer> k
[20:19] <blazinbass> actionParsnip: I'm not quite sure what a desktop is colloquially, it can't be installed as a standalone OS right?
[20:19] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: i don't understand it ):
[20:20] <dr_willis> blazinbass: its just another application....
[20:20] <actionParsnip> blazinbass: yes, you can switch desktop environment from Gnome to LXDE if you wish. The system is changable like that
[20:20] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: where do you have the minecraft jar file stored?
[20:20] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: in my downloads folder
[20:20] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: well actually that's where the launcher is
[20:21] <steveydevey> gunbert: I actually don't. I removed the passwords, to use public/private keys only.
[20:21] <blazinbass> Now, how do I activate it once it's installed?
[20:21] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: and what is the name of the file?
[20:21] <norwack> Hello. How can i disable critical temperature shutdown? I run Peppermint 3 which is based on Ubuntu, and i cant find thermal_zone in /proc/acpi anymore.
[20:21] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: Mineshafter-proxy.jar
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> norwack  not supported here
[20:21] <dr_willis> blazinbass: at the login screen
[20:21] <norwack> MonkeyDust: why?
[20:22] <blazinbass> dr_willis: thanks brother
[20:22] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: what is your username please?
[20:22] <dr_willis> norwack: its not ubuntu. and has its own support channels
[20:22] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: Andele
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> norwack  because not every distro is supported in this channel
[20:22] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: running:  whoami    will tell you. Is the A capitalized?
[20:23] <norwack> It's based on Ubuntu, so its dumb imo
[20:23] <guntbert> !tab | steveydevey
[20:23] <guntbert> steveydevey: how did you "remove" the password?
[20:23] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: andele
[20:25] <Elesa> Is 10 GB too little for a separate / partition?
[20:25] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: it gives me a java error when running minecraft from the terminal ):
[20:25] <steveydevey> guntbert: sorry about the name typo, and thanks for the tip about tab completion. I removed the password by doing: passwd -d username
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: sudo wget -O /usr/share/applications/minecraft.desktop https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/minecraft.desktop
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Elesa: thats what I use
[20:26] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: what does that do?
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Elesa: I use 3.1Gb for the system here
[20:26] <Elesa> But.. isn't software too much?
[20:26] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: it'll make you a launcher for minecraft
[20:27] <Elesa> Like, too heavy?
[20:27] <actionParsnip> Elesa: this is a full desktop with all the codecs and so forth
[20:27] <Elesa> =o
[20:27] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: it uses the firefox icon but you can change that as you wish
[20:27] <Elesa> Ok, thanks!
[20:27] <guntbert> steveydevey: that sounds dangerous - every account on that same server could su to a passordless account (if I am not mistken)
[20:28] <hilo> Can someone assist or point me in the right direction for a virtualbox issue? I have tried all 4.x versions and all give the same issue. The vboxweb-service will not start and gives very little output to look for the cause. Any suggestions welcome.
[20:28] <guntbert> steveydevey: what was your reason for this?
[20:28] <actionParsnip> hilo: i'd ask in #vbox
[20:28] <steveydevey> guntbert, Hmm, that may be. It was my understanding that you can't su to an account without a password, and that it would just fail.
[20:28] <guntbert> hilo: ask in #vbox :)
[20:28] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: thanks man :D Now solve the java problem -.-
[20:29] <guntbert> steveydevey: let me try
[20:29] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: what java problem, you hava java
[20:29] <steveydevey> guntbert, the reason for this is to have private key authentication on our collection of servers instead of only passwords. and having a password in addition to the keys/passphrase seemed unsafe and redundant
[20:29] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: the minecraft itself gives a thread-8 problem or smth, are you a java pro?
[20:29] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: no, not at all
[20:32] <guntbert> steveydevey: I agree on using key based ssh but deleting the passwords seems counter productive - even if you seem to be right about preventing su
[20:32] <hilo> Thanks
[20:32] <netmk> Ririshi: paste the error you get on pastie.org and give us the link
[20:33] <guntbert> steveydevey: you can/should configure sshd to only accept key based logins
[20:33] <Ririshi> netmk: okay
[20:34] <Ririshi> netmk: http://pastie.org/5020775 here
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> steveydevey  using ubuntu server? if yes, there's a channel for it
[20:35] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: try:   mv /home/andele/.minecraft /home/andele/.minecraft_old
[20:35] <guntbert> MonkeyDust: I am now talking to him, don't chase him away :-)
[20:35] <netmk> Ririshi: try this:  sudo apt-get install liblwjgl-java
[20:36] <netmk> seems you have the wrong library for your arch
[20:36] <steveydevey> guntbert, I do plan on doing that, but I haven't transitioned all of our users to private keys yet. I'm just trying to get things all set up correctly first.
[20:36] <Ririshi> netmk: okay. I'm trying now
[20:36] <steveydevey> guntbert, why do you think it's counter productive though? (other than losing the ability to natively sudo, apparently)
[20:36] <vital101> I'm trying to use a simple provisioning bash script to install some dependencies on Ubuntu 12.04 via Vagrant.  After one dependency (postgres), Ubuntu says "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" and just hangs.  Has anyone run in to this before?  I'm not sure if this is a Vagrant issue or an Ubuntu issue, so I thought I'd ask here first.
[20:37] <steveydevey> MonkeyDust, Oh, good to know! I didn't realize that. Thanks for the info.
[20:37] <Ririshi> trying to get along with ubuntu :p second day using it now XD
[20:37] <Ririshi> netmk: are you a java pro?
[20:38] <Ririshi> netmk: still error: http://pastie.org/5020798
[20:39] <guntbert> steveydevey: because by removing the password you don't gain anything (if ssh accepts only key based logins) - on the other hand: how many users will need to use sudo?
[20:39] <actionParsnip> Ririshi: did you try the folder rename?
[20:39] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yeah and i re-downloaded the whole minecraft stuff
[20:42] <Ririshi> ):
[20:42] <Ririshi> maybe because I only have the 64 bit version of java?
[20:43] <actionParsnip> Ririshi:tried asking in the minecraft channel
[20:43] <steveydevey> guntbert, there definitely won't be many people sudo'ing. I guess I'll leave passwords enabled, but have sshd only accept key based logins. Thanks for the help.
[20:43] <Ririshi> actionParsnip: yeah, but they don't help me since it's pirated ):
[20:43] <bekks> steveydevey: Almost everyone on Ubuntu uses sudo :)
[20:43] <netmk> seems minecraft's included 32bit libraries in their 64bit release, which wouldn't work..
[20:43] <guntbert> steveydevey: no problem :) have fun
[20:44] <netmk> Ririshi: you can change those libraries to 64bit version manually, if you follow this:  http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
[20:44] <steveydevey> bekks, I agree. but not many people will be logging into these boxes :) (dns servers)
[20:44] <Ririshi> netmk: okay
[20:44] <bekks> steveydevey: Thats a very good reason for continuing using sudo :)
[20:45] <xibalba> how do i mount an NFS volume? I thoguht `mount host:/path /local/path` did it ?
[20:45] <xibalba> lethalnetworks:~$ sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/testVol1 /mnt/nfs
[20:45] <xibalba> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/testVol1
[20:45] <steveydevey> bekks, I never wanted to stop using it. I just wanted to be able to authenticate with it using ssh keys instead of a password
[20:46] <bekks> steveydevey: Thats not possible.
[20:46] <actionParsnip> xibalba: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html
[20:46] <schultza> im having a repeating login screen on one user.. how do i fix it.. where is the configuration file for ubuntu/x/whatever for that user?
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: does it happen with other users?
[20:47] <schultza> no
[20:47] <steveydevey> bekks, it looks like it is possible, but maybe not with the default configuration: http://www.drhevans.com/blog/posts/195-using-ssh-agent-for-sudo-authentication/
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: check ~/.xsession-errors for that user
[20:47] <schultza> guest is the only other user on that computer.. adn it works fine
[20:47] <nronksr> Hello.  Where is the log file stored for updated packages via apt-get update?  I'm running LTS 10.04, updated packages and my deluged torrent server has stopped receiving incoming transmissions.  The only thing that was changed was updated packages.
[20:47] <steveydevey> bekks, also: http://superuser.com/questions/164078/how-to-make-shared-keys-ssh-authorized-keys-and-sudo-work-together
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: try with non-guest account
[20:47] <k1l> schultza: take alook into the .xsession-errors from that user.
[20:47] <xibalba> apparently i needed the nfs-common package...how dumb.
[20:47] <xibalba> NFS should be builtin
[20:47] <schultza> sherm and guest are the only two accounts on the computer
[20:47] <jrib> schultza: so create one
[20:48] <bekks> steveydevey: That does NOT make sudo magically authenticate with a ssh key.
[20:48] <andril> my 12.04 setup sees my desktop as laptop - any help?
[20:48] <schultza> EDID errors
[20:48] <bekks> steveydevey: INSTEAD, it even DISABLES the only barrier left: the password authentication.
[20:48] <k1l> schultza: maybe its just a user-setting, or the xauthority errors after fiddling with sudo
[20:48] <schultza> failed to load exter entity /home/sherm/.compiz/session/blah
[20:48] <jrib> schultza: use a pastebin to post full files, instead of just giving excerpts in the channel
[20:49] <schultza> im not on that local computer.. it's going to be more work than a single copy paste
[20:49] <k1l> schultza: take the whole file into a pastebin. so we can decide which line is important
[20:50] <jrib> schultza: is there a reason you can't use pastebinit?
[20:50] <steveydevey> bekks, Hmm. So are you saying anyone who can log in would then be able to sudo without any restriction?
[20:50] <schultza> i have to get to the file through a ssh client... it have to more than 5 pages ot c opying and pasting to pastebin
[20:50] <schultza> its not going to be simple
[20:50] <jrib> schultza: use pastebinit
[20:50] <jrib> !pastebinit | schultza
[20:50] <schultza> ok... see you in t5 mins
[20:51] <gordonjcp> steveydevey: you have to be a bit careful with sudo and ssh keys
[20:51] <schultza> cause it iwll take that long to c opy/paste it
[20:51] <jrib> schultza: you just run one command, it should take you 2 seconds after installing it
[20:51] <bekks> steveydevey: In that example - the user dimas - is the only barrier. After hacking into that user account, there is no password barrier anymore for anyone to just use sudo and gain full root access. You dont want that.
[20:51] <Ririshi> netmk: THANK YOU!
[20:51] <k1l> schultza: stop
[20:51] <Ririshi> netmk: this fixed it :D
[20:51] <schultza> stop what?
[20:52] <schultza>  i thoughty you qwanted a pastebin.. which i have to copy and paste to it
[20:52] <k1l> schultza: use pastebinit like jrib told you. that is command that will do all the work
[20:52] <steveydevey> bekks, Gotcha. I'll definitely be keeping the passwords then. :)
[20:52] <k1l> so you only need to show us the url
[20:52] <bekks> steveydevey: :)
[20:52] <schultza> no such command
[20:52] <jrib> schultza: install it
[20:52] <xibalba> this is just hanging, lethalnetworks:~$ sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/testVol1 /mnt/nfs
[20:52] <steveydevey> bekks, I appreciate the info, for sure
[20:53] <bekks> steveydevey: Of course, you can enable pubkey authentication for user dimas and disable the ssh password login for that user.
[20:53] <bekks> steveydevey: In that case, you still will have to enter the _password_ when using sudo as user dimas.
[20:53] <k1l> schultza: you really need to read the bots msgs :/
[20:53] <shockingbehavur_> !ubottu
[20:53] <k1l> !patebinit > schultza
[20:54] <k1l> !pastebinit > schultza
[20:54] <xibalba> any ideas why this hangs? lethalnetworks:~$ sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/testVol1 /mnt/nfs
[20:54] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268211/
[20:54] <tripelb> Ubuntu torrent failed Twice using hotspots from phone. shouldn't torrent protocol handle flakey
[20:54] <schultza> sorry.. didnt know there was a command line program for that
[20:55] <xibalba> nm got it
[20:55] <steveydevey> bekks: I was really hoping to find an easy way to have it use the private key to authenticate for sudo, but I'll take the extra password for it any day, compared to the insecurity!
[20:55] <jiffe98> if I wanted to find out what configure options to build a package with so I can build a newer version the same way how might I do that?
[20:55] <jrib> schultza: ls -ld /home/sherm
[20:55] <ThinkT510> tripelb: you are torrenting from a phone? isn't that rather expensive?
[20:56] <k1l> jrib: i think he broken the rights from his home with sudo?
[20:56] <schultza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268216
[20:56] <jrib> k1l: "X session started for root at Mon Oct" seems strange... is that normal?
[20:56] <schultza> no.. what i was doing was trying to learn and set up a remote x session through ssh.. apparently it failed
[20:57] <schultza> and screwed up local gui login
[20:57] <jrib> schultza: so how did you try?
[20:57] <schultza> ssh -X [ip] and then a startx -- :1 on the ssh window
[20:58] <schultza> and it kept giving me no protocols error
[20:58] <k1l> schultza: dont use startx on ubuntu
[20:58] <jrib> schultza: why does this file keep mentioning root?
[20:58] <k1l> schultza: use the loginmnager
[20:58] <schultza> lightdm ?
[20:58] <k1l> yep
[20:58] <schultza> ok... how do i fix this without reinstalling?
[20:59] <k1l> jrib: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/root/.compiz/session/10f8e4796164511047134972338984852500000059070039"  etc. there was a starting as root going on
[20:59] <jrib> schultza: did you use sudo or something?
[21:00] <schultza> /root/.compiz no such file or directory
[21:00] <schultza> not with startx
[21:00] <schultza> and i logged in with sherm
[21:00] <jrib> schultza: well something is pretty broken with your setup then if it keeps trying to start everything as root
[21:01] <schultza> with all i did was start ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and startx -- :1 ... how did that force root?
[21:01] <schultza> oh... unless startx wont run as user.. and i did a sudo startx
[21:02]  * schultza slaps self silly.
[21:02] <cb_>  _cb
[21:03] <Ririshi> im off for today
[21:03] <Ririshi> cya later :D
[21:03] <winstonw> Hi, is there a way to use an ubuntu iso and on a linux itself create a bootable jumpdrive that is fat32-filesystem backed -- I mean, by NOT using dd, but using a mountable (writable) filesystem
[21:04] <schultza> youd have to mount the iso file and copy the files over to a already formated fat32 partition
[21:04] <varikonniemi> winstonw, what are you trying to do. i cannot understand what you ask
[21:04] <dummy> hi, i have a problem with netbeans. I installed version 7.0.1 and now i want to add the C/C++ module but i can't cause there is nothing listed under (Tools/plugins/available plugins). Does anyone know how to update netbeans for c/c++ ? Thanks
[21:05] <schultza> #login_loop: do i still need to completely reinstall ubuntu or is there a fix?
[21:05] <jrib> schultza: have you rebooted since this started happening?
[21:07] <varikonniemi> winstonw, i think the easiest way to get what you want is to install ubuntu to the usb drive. I dont think it supports fat as root filesystem though
[21:07] <varikonniemi> you can make one partition ext and the rest fat though
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> winstonw  if i understand correctly, yes, you can create an ntfs space inside your /home
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> or fat32, sorry
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> but not bootable, i was too fast
[21:08] <schultza> jrib, yes rebooted several times.. i even did a complete purge and reinstall of ubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <jrib> schultza: so does it happen with a non-guest user?
[21:09] <k1l> schultza: you could try to take a look at everything still belongs to your user in his home directory
[21:09] <schultza> the only non-guest user i have on that system is stuck in the relogin sequence
[21:09] <jrib> schultza: create one
[21:09] <schultza> .xauthority and some other files are root/root
[21:10] <k1l> schultza: bingo
[21:10] <schultza> rm it and replace the xauthroirty-l as the regular?
[21:10] <k1l> the xauthority needs to belong to your user
[21:10] <winstonw> varikonniemi: no i mean making it boot from ubuntu jumpdrive and get the kernel from /mnt/jumpdrive/boot/kernel-name and then use the usual squashfs in whatever directory on the jumpdrive
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> winstonw  i had never heard of a jumpdrive, but there's this (learned something new myself) http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/create-usb-ubuntu-linux-boot-jump-drive/
[21:13] <jrib> brilliant
[21:14] <Krenair> Just got this from ZNC... <*ctcpflood> Limit reached by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>blocking all CTCP
[21:14] <gr33n7007h> How to detect what device my webcam is in /dev/ ?
[21:14] <Dr_willis> Krenair,  znc is so handy.
[21:14] <jrib> my znc didn't do that :(
[21:14] <knightrage> hi all. i have a cd-rom (a playstation game, to be exact) and im getting "Input/output error" when trying to use dd or cat to create an iso. any other ways to do this? sudo doesnt help. the cd mounts fine.
[21:14] <ziggyzero> Hi. I have a question on mp3gain.
[21:15] <jrib> ziggyzero: just ask
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: it will probably fail at some point where the disk is protected
[21:15] <Dr_willis> knightrage,  playstation cd's have special protection. You may need a special app to copy/clone it. It may depend on the  specific game also.
[21:15] <Krenair> jrib, you might not have got those ctcps, or maybe you need a module enabled?
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: you could try ddrescue
[21:15] <zykotick9> knightrage: fyi you can't create an ISO from a playstation game, but you can create an image (bin/cue or bin/toc type thing)
[21:15] <jrib> Krenair: I got them; I probably didn't enable the module
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: PSX, PS2?
[21:15] <ziggyzero> Is there anyway of keeping a log of any errors so that I can investigate which files failed analysis
[21:15] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: yes
[21:15] <ziggyzero> with mp3gain
[21:15] <gordonjcp> knightrage: what zykotick9 said ;-)
[21:16] <jrib> ziggyzero: is that a console application?
[21:16] <gr33n7007h> How to detect what device my webcam is in /dev/ ?
[21:16] <ziggyzero> Yes
[21:16] <pasche> hello
[21:16] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: i've never run into a copy protection issue with playstation games, and i have quite a few.
[21:16] <gordonjcp> gr33n7007h: *probably* /dev/video0
[21:16] <gordonjcp> gr33n7007h: see what lsusb has to say for itself
[21:16] <gr33n7007h> gordonjcp, one sec let me check
[21:16] <ziggyzero> jrib: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/mp3gain.1.html
[21:16] <knightrage> oh, okay. i'll look into bin/cue things.
[21:17] <Dr_willis> zykotick9,  last i tried tghem was a few years back and recall having to use special apps.  of course I may be thinking of BURNING them. :)
[21:17] <ziggyzero> jrib: looking at the manual there isn't. But I was wondering if there was a cli trick?
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> wow
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> thats a lot of klines
[21:17] <jrib> ziggyzero: you can redirect stdout with "> file" and stderr with "2> file"
[21:17] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: burning them is something i've never done ;)  so i wouldn't know about that.
[21:17] <Krenair> Yeah, CTCP-flooder
[21:17] <knightrage> and it was a ps1 game
[21:17] <knightrage> fyi
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> is it an auto kline?
[21:18] <zykotick9> knightrage: i'm talking about ps1 as well ;)
[21:18] <ox1de> hi.. i have a simple query... how do I install infinity visualizer on audacious? i downloaded the file but cant figure out how to install and make it function
[21:18] <Dr_willis> zykotick9,  picked up a PS1 for $10 the other day. ;)   for the kids..  but i imagine this is all not ubuntu support related. ;P
[21:18] <gordonjcp> GeorgeTorwell: yup
[21:19] <schultza> you guys are good.. thank you... ill have to find what other files are owned by root in that directory now.. i have additional failures with Xorg now
[21:19] <gordonjcp> http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/k-line.jpg
[21:19] <gordonjcp> ^ your shipment of K-line has arrived
[21:19] <ziggyzero> jrib: Thanks I shall give 2> a go. Thank you
[21:19] <jrib> schultza: should be safe to just chown your HOME recursively, unless you've setup some special permissions
[21:20] <schultza> chown sherm:sherm /home/sherm ? or is there a recursive i need to do?
[21:20] <dummy> hi, i have a problem with netbeans. I installed version 7.0.1 and now i want to add the C/C++ module but i can't cause there is nothing listed under (Tools/plugins/available plugins). Does anyone know how to update netbeans for c/c++ ? Thanks.
[21:20] <jrib> schultza: chown -R sherm: ~sherm
[21:20] <schultza> .swt ?
[21:20] <jrib> schultza: :x
[21:21] <schultza> forgot the sudo on that cmd
[21:21] <knightrage> perfect. looks like this should work. cheers all.
[21:21]  * knightrage waves
[21:21] <ox1de> d(o_0)b
[21:21] <schultza> and what is swt?
[21:21] <jost> dummy, you can download current versions of netbeans on their site with a linux installer
[21:22] <jrib> schultza: I don't know, you said it
[21:22] <chris_99> how do i upgrade to the latest beta release of ubuntu
[21:22] <jost> dummy, its one big .sh file, and I think you only need to execute it
[21:23] <pasche> I have a problem installing the latest java plugin in my firefox browser. I already placed a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but the plugin is never loaded. Does somebody have an idea?
[21:24] <zykotick9> chris_99: reask in #ubuntu+1
[21:26] <ox1de> can anybody help me with my query?
[21:26] <jrib> !helpme | ox1de
[21:28] <ox1de> hi.. i have a simple query... how do I install infinity visualizer on audacious? i downloaded the file but cant figure out how to install and make it function
[21:28] <malkauns> in 12.04 is there any way to change the size of the top panel?
[21:30] <zykotick9> !info myunity | malkauns "I" have no idea, but i'd try this.
[21:30] <malkauns> thx but i think that only allows you to change the size of the unity launcher
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  look in file, preferences, plugins, effect
[21:35] <ox1de> monkey: then what?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  select the one you want
[21:36] <Ramtron> Could someone help me install an ISO through wine?
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  it may be in Visualization
[21:37] <ox1de> monkey: itz not listed in visualization yet
[21:37] <zykotick9> Ramtron: see "/msg ubottu iso" for details on mounting an ISO from CLI.   There is no exe inside as far as I can see.
[21:38] <varikonniemi> sayo, it is not possible
[21:38] <zykotick9> Ramtron: ISOs are read only
[21:38] <Ramtron> Unaware, I'll try your command, thanks
[21:38] <varikonniemi> you must run grub-update
[21:38] <zykotick9> Ramtron: no EXE means nothing to run?  what is this?
[21:38] <varikonniemi> maybe grub-install?
[21:39] <sayo> varikonniemi: i am thiking the easiest way is to make the windows-linux dualboot, then make a disk image
[21:39] <Ramtron> I open the ISO and I see nothing inside. but it may be cause it's read only
[21:39] <sayo> i am just saying theoretically if you had a windows linux dualboot
[21:39] <sayo> and needed it reparied due to windows being full of fuck
[21:39] <varikonniemi> just install win as normal, then run those commands in live cd and thats it
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> sayo  mind your language please, it's really disturbing
[21:40] <sayo> :|
[21:40] <sayo> but does anyone have a better suggestion
[21:40] <ethhunt> i know right.
[21:40] <ethhunt> smh.
[21:40] <sayo> than disk images for restoration
[21:40] <sayo> i really wish windows would start using grub
[21:41] <varikonniemi> i have dualboot also, but primary windows
[21:41] <varikonniemi> so i must first select ubuntu, then the kernel, then it boots :|
[21:41] <sayo> im just talking in theory
[21:42] <Seednode> sayo: And I wish Windows would use a package manager; unfortunately, neither will happen for a while.
[21:42] <Seednode> OR ever.
[21:42] <schultza> thank you guys
[21:42] <sayo> Seednode: do you have any better administrative options
[21:42] <sayo> for managing linux-windows dualboot systems
[21:42] <Seednode> Hm...
[21:42] <sayo> besides disk imaging
[21:42] <Seednode> I just use separate HDDs for each OS.
[21:42] <sayo> because every time windows gets corrupted
[21:42] <Seednode> But I realize that doesn't work for everyone.
[21:42] <sayo> Seednode: true, but what about laptops now
[21:43] <Seednode> My laptop has a Windows SSD and a Linux HDD
[21:43] <Seednode> 120GB each.
[21:43] <sayo> looole
[21:43] <sayo> which one gets the sdd?
[21:43] <Seednode> Windows, atm.
[21:43] <varikonniemi> sayo, what is wrong with the method i said
[21:43] <Seednode> Mainly because it came with that, and I refuse to pirate.
[21:43] <sayo> varikonniemi: we are talking about backup solutions
[21:43] <sayo> and recovery stuff
[21:43] <sayo> im not sure i understand your suggestion
[21:43] <Seednode> Just reinstall every time.
[21:43] <kentos> does anyone know where to contact Ubuntu devs?
[21:43] <Seednode> It's what I do./
[21:44] <varikonniemi> if you take the time to install windows 30min then why not rewrite grub in 5 min?
[21:44] <Seednode> If something goes wrong, it's probably time to reinstall anyways
[21:44] <Seednode> Same goes for my Linux installs; I just back up important .conf files in Dropbox.
[21:44] <Seednode> 30 mins tops to completely restore to my previous setup.
[21:44] <sayo> also guys, how do you manually partition for ubuntu
[21:44] <kentos> where are Ubuntu bugs reported?
[21:44] <sayo> the installer always makes the swap partition too small
[21:44] <varikonniemi> i don't :D
[21:44] <Seednode> Well, you'll need /home, /swap, and /boot
[21:45] <sayo> yes
[21:45] <sayo> i want those in seperate partitions
[21:45] <Seednode> Probably 10GB, 2GB, and 100MB, respectively.
[21:45] <sayo> but the installer never lets me
[21:45] <Seednode> Just split into three partitions.
[21:45] <Seednode> Make one bootable.
[21:45] <Seednode> Use cfdisk
[21:45] <Seednode> Not the normal method.
[21:45] <FloodBot1> Seednode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:45] <sayo> : |
[21:45] <sayo> so which one should i make bootable Seednode
[21:45] <sayo> root?
[21:45] <zykotick9> !bug | kentos
[21:45] <Seednode> Well, I'd guess /boot :P
[21:46] <kentos> thanks zykotick9, ubottu
[21:46] <kentos> !bug
[21:46] <Seednode> I manually partition Arch, it should work for Ubuntu as well
[21:47] <zykotick9> kentos: see "/msg ubottu ubottu" for details on what ubottu is
[21:48] <overclucker> Seednode: when would you ever neet the boot flag?
[21:50] <overclucker> *need
[21:51] <Seednode> overclucker: Well, you need it to install Arch. No clue about other OSes.
[21:51] <Seednode> Or, I was told to do so when first installing, and have since.
[21:51] <Seednode> Might not actually be required; Hm...
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  keep it in the channel, please
[21:53] <varikonniemi> it is exciting to run 12.04 on a celeron with 512ram :D
[21:53] <ox1de> Ok...
[21:53] <TJ-> Seednode: the 'active' aka bootable flag on an MSDOS partition was used in the DOS days to indicate to the boot-strap loader which partition contained the secondary boot-loader.
[21:53] <overclucker> Seednode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_flag
[21:54] <varikonniemi> quite surprisingly the hdd is the bottleneck in performance in many places on that setup
[21:55] <SudoKing> i seem to be getting a blank, black screen if i idle for about a minute but i dont see any option to turn screensavers off (GNOME 3)
[21:55] <SudoKing> anyone know a workaround to turn the black screensaver off?
[21:55] <varikonniemi> the setting is somewhere there
[21:56] <tripelb> Ubuntu torrent failed Twice using hotspots from phone. shouldn't torrent protocol handle flakey
[21:56] <wizbit> apt-get leave-channel
[21:56] <yekoms> how do i change two finger scrolling, to one finger? ubuntu 12.04 using openbox as desktop.
[21:56] <Seednode> TJ-, overclucker, I'm referring to the "Make bootable" option in cfdisk. As I said, I don't know that it's necessary, but the Arch install guide told me to do it.
[21:56] <tripelb> lost Answer.. fast channel
[21:56] <SudoKing> in system settings there is no "Screen" as there ought to be
[21:57] <tripelb> Ubuntu torrent failed Twice using hotspots from phone. shouldn't torrent protocol handle flakey
[21:57] <andrey_> hi
[21:58] <TJ-> Seednode: You mean the "Bootable" toggle option on the menu along bottom of the viewport?
[21:58] <Maksim> Hi
[21:58] <Seednode> Yes, TJ-
[21:58] <Seednode> So, it's just an MS-DOS archaic toggle?
[21:59] <TJ-> Seednode: Yes, that's what I was describing earlier
[21:59] <Seednode> Alright, I guess the guide I was using was misinformed.
[21:59] <Seednode> Thanks for letting me know; it'll save me 2 seconds or so in the future.
[22:00] <TJ-> Seednode: Yes... MSDOS/Windows 3.1 would store a secondary boot loader in the boot sector of that partition, which would in turn be able to read the "command.com" executable from the root directory of the file-system
[22:00] <Maksim> I installed Ubuntu from Windows installer a month ago and put 10gb on linux partition.. Now I realized I like Ubuntu and want to add more disk space to Linux partition from Windows.. any easy way to do this?
[22:01] <OmegaHarvest> stupid q. how do you link someones name in a reply?
[22:02] <overclucker> Omeg<tab>
[22:02] <OmegaHarvest> thanks
[22:02] <ziggyzero> the mp3header was damaged. I run it through mp3val to repair
[22:03] <OmegaHarvest> SudoKing: System Settings > Brightness and Lock. It's in there
[22:05] <OmegaHarvest> Maksim: Gparted might be a tool to do what you're after, but I'm not sure how it'll work with your installation. You may be better off uninstalling Ubuntu using the windows uninstaller and then performing a dual boot after.
[22:07] <rpaddock> Any reason alt+drag won't work in 12.04? I have compiz setup to allow it under Move Window and have disabled context menus showing up on alt key
[22:08] <TJ-> Maksim: Windows can usually shrink its own partition from Disk Management. Once that is done, boot from an Ubuntu liveCD, and use gparted to move the start of the Ubuntu partition so that the size of the Ubuntu allocation increases as it takes up the free space.
[22:09] <unixbeard> Hey happy campers!  I'm interested in finding out why my latest ubuntu 12.04 server install won't define a default gateway for eth1 based on the eth1 setting in /etc/network/interfaces?  I'm also trying to not use ufw and instead use my trusted script of ages that I call in /root/system/iptables.sh from /etc/rc.local.  So far I have to reboot, route add default gw <ip> eth1, then /root/system/iptables.sh, for my router to work.
[22:09] <unixbeard> What am I doing wrong?! :D
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> unixbeard  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:09] <vivid> TJ-, hes using wubi, theres no ubuntu partition to modify...
[22:09] <unixbeard> Thanks MonkeyDust!
[22:10] <TJ-> vivid: Oh! OK, thanks. Easier then ever then!
[22:10] <Maksim> TJ- I'm using WUBI, does that make like a 'virtual' partition or something, rather than a real one?
[22:10] <Maksim> I don't know much about computers behind the scenes
[22:10] <vivid> Maksim, it makes a "virtual drive" which is a file on the windows partition
[22:10] <TJ-> Maksim: no, in your case there's simply a file in the Windows NTFS file system
[22:10] <vivid> its slow in comparison to an actual drive
[22:11] <Maksim> TJ- and vivid : then I should probably uninstall this and reinstall, huh?
[22:11] <Maksim> using a livecD?
[22:11] <OmegaHarvest> Maksim: I think your best bet is to dual boot after removing the wubi installation.
[22:11] <vivid> he may know a way to resize it
[22:11] <Maksim> the thing is, i'd rather not having a slower worse version
[22:11] <Maksim> I like ubuntu
[22:12] <vivid> then you would need to make room to really install to the drive
[22:12] <vivid> which can be dangerous if you dont know what youre doing.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> Maksim  wubi is a pseudo-installation inside windows
[22:12] <OmegaHarvest> Maksim: yeah. the lived will detect the windows install and configure GRUB accordingly. its very user friendly
[22:12] <TJ-> Maksim: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[22:12] <overclucker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk
[22:12] <overclucker> TJ-: lol
[22:12]  * TJ- laughs!
[22:12] <TJ-> SNAP!
[22:12] <Maksim> this shit is too complicated
[22:13] <knob> Hello... I would like to have "startx" automatically when I boot up the OS.  Any link to where I could find out how to do this?
[22:13] <TJ-> You think *that* is complicated? Boy!
[22:13] <overclucker> Maksim: only the manual method id complicated
[22:13] <vivid> Maksim, yea well, catering to windows users is going to seem that way.  imagine if you just wanted to use linux, you wouldnt have the issue
[22:13] <TJ-> knob: Install any of the desktop environments and start normally, and X will start
[22:14] <knob> Yes... X starts super at the moment with startx
[22:14] <Maksim> sorry but you guys just gave me several directions (they may have converged to the same thing), can you point me to the ultimate one? Do I just follow the instructions in that link?
[22:14] <static09> Linux always works well until you start to look into it :P
[22:14] <knob> What I'd like is to have it start when I boot-up... without me having to login, then type  startx
[22:15] <overclucker> knob: sounds like you need a display manager
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> knob  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what going wrong
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> what is going wrong*
[22:16] <knob> Ok... if I boot-up the machine, she goes into the   "login:  " prompt.    So I log in, all good.  Then I'm at the prompt
[22:16] <knob> I type   startx   , and x starts without a problem.
[22:16] <knob> I would like to have x start automatically when I boot-up the computer
[22:16] <overclucker> knob: install gdm3 kdm lightdm or something
[22:16] <static09> best question at this point is to know which distro you're using?
[22:16] <knob> backtrack
[22:16] <static09> aha
[22:16] <static09> there's the rub
[22:16] <Maksim> TJ-: The link you put is to resize the wubi installation.. should I just uninstall and do real install with real partition isntead? Vivid said virtual drive is slower
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> knob  not supported here
[22:17] <grandal_prime>  ok i have an ubuntu1204 system with one drive using lvm.  How can i expand that onto a second drive if i cant expand a mounted partition?
[22:17] <static09> exactly why i asked which distro it was
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> knob  type /join #backtrack-linux
[22:17] <static09> if you can't deal with terminal than please do not just backtrack :)
[22:17] <knob> Thanks guys. I'm headed over there.
[22:17] <TJ-> Maksim: If you want to keep on with Ubuntu then that would be best.
[22:17] <Maksim> TJ-: any way to save all my stuff so that it'll have my files and programs?
[22:17] <knob> Terminal is fine with me... yet would like to startx automatically.     Something akin to what I have in my FreeBSD machines
[22:17] <Maksim> when I reinstall..?
[22:17] <knob> Yet I'll ask over there. =)  thanks
[22:18] <Maksim> you know what.. it's cool..i'll just throw them on a usb
[22:19] <overclucker> grandal_prime: boot into recovery mode and do lvm pvcreate on the partition you want to add, the nadd it to the volume group with lvm vgcreate
[22:19] <TJ-> Maksim: It is possible to simply copy the contents of the wubi virtual drive into a hard-drive partition, and set-up the boot-loader from there, but all in all, that would be too complicated for you I think :)
[22:19] <grandal_prime> ok so in recovery mode the required partition is not mounted..got it thanks
[22:21] <ClientAlive> If I download the oracle jdk (so I can code/ develop java) will I have to deal with upbading the system on what java version I'm using?
[22:21] <Maksim> TJ-: haha, ok, thanks :0
[22:21] <Maksim> :) *
[22:21] <jsjgruber-xq> join ##lernid
[22:21] <ClientAlive> I'm running 12.04 server with gnome
[22:23] <TJ-> ClientAlive: You can install the openjdk-7-jdk and/or openjdk-6-jdk
[22:23] <overclucker> ClientAlive: this is probably the cleanest way of installing oracle java if you absolutely need it over open jdk: https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6
[22:23] <Maksim> what's a good place to learn about partitions and stuff
[22:24] <ClientAlive> TJ-: ok. so what does the jdk give me? Simply the ability to compile and run java?
[22:24] <TJ-> Maksim: Inside a virtual machine! Not on a real disk
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> !partition > Maksim
[22:24] <Maksim> okie thanks
[22:25] <TJ-> ClientAlive: the JDK contains all the development tools (as opposed to the JREs)
[22:25] <ClientAlive> TJ-: ok. Thx man.
[22:29] <OFFLINE> botnet here
[22:29] <OFFLINE> o.o
[22:34] <eilyx> how do i secure my system with apparmor
[22:35] <Wug> it wasnt really a botnet
[22:35] <Wug> probably just one or two idiots
[22:36] <Wug> eilyx: I'd kind of like to know as well.
[22:36] <Wug> Also, if anyone can shed some light on how to make chromium work on guest sessions that would be great.
[22:37] <Wug> I'm led to believe that apparmor blocks the methods it uses to control its sandbox on accounts with guest privileves
[22:37] <lduros> hello, how can I drop to a shell from ubuntu 12.04? For some reason after upgrading unity is busted. I can't even start a terminal... so I'd like to see what's going on from the shell
[22:37] <Wug> I did cursory research on how to get apparmor to allow it but was unable to find much on the internet and unable to get it working via experimentation
[22:37] <Wug> lduros: single user mode?
[22:38] <lduros> Wug: guess so. from either lightdm or inside unity
[22:38] <static09> quick guide on apparmor located here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[22:38] <lduros> Wug: Right now I'm in the lightdm loginn screen
[22:38] <lduros> not sure if that's single user
[22:38] <lduros> might not be
[22:38] <Wug> reboot, stop in grub, edit boot command, add "single" to the boot arguments
[22:38] <eilyx>  static09 thanks
[22:38] <lduros> Wug: what is it going to do?
[22:38] <Wug> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[22:39] <lduros> Wug: There's no ctrl + F1 or the like to get back to the shell?
[22:39] <Wug> it doesn't boot any further than a root prompt
[22:39] <Wug> youll be able to install and uninstall software, etc
[22:39] <Wug> very little will be running so there is very little chance for interference
[22:39] <lduros> hmm ok, for some reason I thought there would be a way with a keybinding. Alright, I'll try, thanks Wug
[22:40] <ClientAlive> I'm already using the oracle jre. do I have to completerly remove that to install the jdk without any problems?
[22:41] <TJ-> lduros: The log-file "/var/log/kern.log" contains reports from apparmor when things are DENIED, which may help you confirm things
[22:41] <overclucker> ClientAlive: it might be a good idea to remove it, but openjdk should update alternatives when installed
[22:42] <bekks> ClientAlive: That would be the preferred approach, since the JDK provides the JRE, too.
[22:42] <k1gwb> I can put this in a beta channel if more appropriate if someone directs me to it, but my question is as follows. On Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 2, I can play MP3s located ON my computer, and I can play WAVs, AVIs, MP4s, etc located on a network share on a Windows computer. However, I can NOT play MP3s located on the network share.
[22:42] <roasted> hello!
[22:42] <k1gwb> I don't believe it's a permissions issue, as I can copy the MP3s on the network share onto my local computer and play them fine from there.
[22:43] <roasted> Question - what type of consequences might I be looking at if I stop a RAID "resyncing" process (mdadm)? One of the two HDDs are failing so I want to run in degraded mode, but after a reboot it's trying to sync up. Can I kill it without damaging the data on the remaining good HDD?
[22:43] <ClientAlive> overclucker: ok. I just thought there might be a lot of stuff from the jre that get's clobbered. (Not that that would screw up the installation necessicarliy, just have to keep telling it got ahead and overwrite over and over a thousand times  :)
[22:43] <overclucker> ClientAlive: actually it wont get clobbered at all, they install to thier own directories
[22:44] <xibalba> how do i check nfs exports again?
[22:44] <diamonds> hiya
[22:44] <diamonds> I am having trouble printing
[22:44] <ox1de> hi.. i have a simple query... how do I install infinity visualizer on audacious? i downloaded the file but cant figure out how to install and make it function
[22:44] <k1gwb> Oh also the streaming of MP3s worked perfectly on 12.04 yesterday :)
[22:44] <ox1de> i may have missed the scroll
[22:45] <ClientAlive> right on. What I gather though is I prolly should remove all java first then install the jdk and the iced tea plugin again.
[22:45] <overclucker> ClientAlive: only symlinks to java, javac javaw, and so on get changed
[22:45] <diamonds> I have an HP printer
[22:45] <diamonds> it keeps all jobs at "pending"
[22:46] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/pastes/5021310/text
[22:46] <diamonds> printer state: Stopped - /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed
[22:47] <overclucker> ClientAlive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <-- has info on using update-alternatives to switch between versions
[22:47] <grandal_prime> overclocker that does not work. recover mode boots me into ro
[22:47] <ClientAlive> overclucker: I'm actually on that page  ;)
[22:47] <DR460N_P1G> test
[22:48] <overclucker> ClientAlive: then you're on the right page ;)
[22:48] <ClientAlive> :)
[22:48] <diamonds> what the hell -> hp-check tells me I'm not in the correct group to manage printers
[22:48] <diamonds> (i'm su'd to root)
[22:48] <xibalba> anyone here used opendedup?
[22:48] <bekks> diamonds: Thats correct. Being root does not inherit group memberships.
[22:49] <diamonds> how do I add user to group
[22:49] <diamonds> last time I followed a bad article and removed myself from all other groups :)
[22:49] <bekks> diamonds: Check as the user who's printing.
[22:49] <diamonds> so I'm more caustious this time
[22:49] <overclucker> grandal_prime: then try a live cd. teh ubuntu live cd should work if you install the lvm2 package
[22:49] <diamonds> bekks, ok
[22:49] <xibalba> anyone here used opendedup?
[22:50] <diamonds> ah I'm not in group lp
[22:51] <xibalba> my exportfs shows the following but i keep getting access denied when trying to mount,
[22:51] <xibalba> ~# exportfs
[22:51] <xibalba>                 <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:51] <xibalba> mounting from <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:51] <bekks> xibalba: NFSv3 or NFSv4?
[22:52] <xibalba> good question, i think v3 since there is no auth.
[22:52] <xibalba> how to confirm?
[22:52] <xibalba> i see a nfsd4 service running along with nfsd
[22:52] <bekks> by mounting the share using -o vers=3 or something like that.
[22:53] <diamonds> usermod -a -G lp diamonds
[22:53] <diamonds> ^does this look like a safe way to add diamonds to the lp group?
[22:53] <xibalba> bekks, trying
[22:53] <bekks> diamonds: yes
[22:54] <xibalba> bekks, this is with OpenDeDup
[22:54] <overclucker> diamonds: yup. the '-a' is the important switch you missed before, i think.
[22:54] <bekks> xibalba: Never heard of that.
[22:54] <diamonds> overclucker, yep.  ho boy, that caused me some trouble :)
[22:54] <xibalba> bekks, based on Ubuntu. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1268407/ -- http://opendedup.org/administrators-guide
[22:55] <bekks> xibalba: OK, so it is no Ubuntu. And thus not supported in here
[22:55] <jrib> how can I "reread" ~/.XCompose without restart X?
[22:55] <xibalba> it uses everything ubuntu underlying
[22:56] <newbie|3> Helloooo
[22:56] <bekks> xibalba: It is not an official Ubuntu derivate, and thus not supported in here.
[22:56] <xibalba> ok well i'm sure someone else can help
[22:56] <diamonds> hmmm that's not working
[22:57] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/pastes/5021350/text
[22:57] <bekks> diamonds: Did you log out completely?
[22:57] <xibalba> anyway the exports file is showing the correct data /media/testVol1/nfs
[22:57] <xibalba>                 <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:57] <diamonds> bekks, no :)
[22:57] <bekks> diamonds: You have to, for taking group membership modifications into effect.
[22:57] <xibalba> how do i mount with nfsv4 /.
[22:57] <varikonniemi> i installed the packages kubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <newbie|3> xibalba, diamonds, bekks, are you logged in youtube?
[22:57] <xibalba> from an official Ubuntu system?
[22:58] <bekks> newbie|3: Doesnt matter, this is Ubuntu support :)
[22:58] <varikonniemi> then i removed them, but they stay in the menu entry
[22:58] <xibalba> newbie|3, no why?
[22:58] <varikonniemi> and the kubuntu logo stays at spalsh
[22:58] <varikonniemi> how come?
[22:58] <newbie|3> I just wanted a big help to make a comment favourite in a video
[22:58] <TJ-> diamonds: "sudo adduser <user> <group>"   then you have to log-out all the sessions and log-in if they need to see the new group membership
[22:58] <bekks> newbie|3: Thats not an Ubuntu issue, I guess.
[22:59] <newbie|3> hmm no bekks, but linux issue, the comment that says: Linux does it BETTER and uses? LESS RESOURCES!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gypGxVXgdY
[22:59] <bekks> newbie|3: So it is not an Ubuntu issue.
[22:59] <newbie|3> I'm not that linuxspatry, just a sub of him, and the purpose is to make people know linux, and troll the windows lovers
[22:59] <bekks> newbie|3: You may ask for opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:00] <newbie|3> ah thanks bekks
[23:00] <diamonds> ok so hp-check is complaining about dependencies
[23:00] <xibalba> alight, no support. tony the tiger says grrrrrrrreat
[23:01] <TJ-> xibalba: From my fstab: "<IP_ADDRESS>:/Library /home/all/Library nfs4 _netdev,auto,user 0 0"
[23:01] <xibalba> i'm trying to do it one time from the command line, just testing
[23:02] <xibalba> ah, found out there is a mount.nfs and mount.nfs54
[23:02] <xibalba> 4*
[23:02] <xibalba> F
[23:02] <TJ-> xibalba: On the server: "/srv         			<IP_ADDRESS>/16(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,crossmnt,fsid=0)
[23:02] <TJ->   /srv/Library 			<IP_ADDRESS>/16(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)"
[23:02] <ClientAlive> If I type "javac -version" into my terminal and the response printed to the screen is "javac 1.7.0_07" Does that mean I already have what I need?
[23:02] <diamonds> how do I pipe stdout && stderr to one place
[23:03] <jrib> diamonds: &>
[23:03] <jrib> erm
[23:03] <jrib> diamonds: |&
[23:03] <diamonds> to pipe to xclip?
[23:03] <diamonds> ok
[23:03] <xibalba> TJ-, thanks trying
[23:03] <TJ-> xibalba: the tools are in package nfs-common
[23:04] <ClientAlive> TJ-: bekks: overclucker: ??
[23:04] <overclucker> ?
[23:04] <diamonds> check for runtime deps... http://pastie.org/pastes/5021374/text
[23:04] <ClientAlive> overclucker: If I type "javac -version" into my terminal and the response printed to the screen is "javac 1.7.0_07" Does that mean I already have what I need?
[23:04] <bekks> ClientAlive: Yes.
[23:04] <TJ-> ClientAlive: That says you have java compiler for 1.7, yes
[23:04] <ClientAlive> overclucker: that's great
[23:05] <ClientAlive> thanks man
[23:06] <Respite212> Hey guys, I was wondering if I would be able to move my /home to my second drive?
[23:06] <TJ-> ClientAlive: You can check what alternates are available for javac using "update-alternatives --list javac"
[23:06] <xibalba> TJ-, can you take a gander here :  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1268418/
[23:06] <TJ-> xibalba: looking
[23:06] <xibalba> ty
[23:08] <diamonds> hmm...
[23:08] <diamonds> installing hplip-gui allowed me to go to manager > printer control > "start printer"
[23:08]  * diamonds shrugs
[23:08] <TJ-> xibalba: When exporting directories (on the server_ they have to be under the server's root (which is usually /srv/). Also, when mounting (on the client) the path has to be the exact same one on the server (e.g. if exportfs says "/srv/Library..." then the mount source will be "/srv/Library")
[23:09] <ClientAlive> TJ-: right on. via update-alternatives... " it appears I'm using oracle's on my laptop but the open source on my desktop. Can you (or someone) tell me what you think of this method?  http://youtu.be/RxLATpa8_OE   <at 4:30 on the counter or if there's info in the notes below the vid>
[23:09] <xibalba> TJ-, oh weird i never knew that. i used to use NFS alot on BSd and I dont think that was the case. I will try again
[23:10] <TJ-> xibalba: Well, now you've got me wondering, but I'm pretty sure that is how it gets configured on Debian/Ubuntu. I had to do "mount --rbind /home/Library /srv/Library" in fstab to do "/srv/Library" in exportfs
[23:10] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> botsnack
[23:10] <overclucker> Respite212: copy the contents onto it and set it to mount on /home in /etc/ftab
[23:10] <xibalba> TJ-, seems to hang when i use that.
[23:10] <xibalba> TJ-, gonna fiddle with it i'll let you know
[23:11] <TJ-> xibalba: Good luck! It took me a while to get the flags correct on the exports, too, for bind-mounts
[23:11] <diamonds> how can I configure the notifications in unity?
[23:11] <Smackbook> i'm trying to get my hdmi audio out working, when I go into system settings > sound settings and choose the right settings for my hdmi chip on the hardware tab, I can test the left and right and hear the test voice, but none of the system sounds are being routed through there.  when I go into alsamixer and select the hdmi sound chip it shows spdif [,1,2] they all have 00 (not MM) but no volume bars (nothing happens when i press up and do
[23:12] <diamonds> i don't like the fade on mouseover behavior
[23:14] <Respite212> overclucker: Can I just directly mount the /dev/sdb1 to /home?
[23:14] <Respite212> and change it in /esc/fstab?
[23:14] <TJ-> ClientAlive: PPAs are good *provided* the packagers know what they are doing and don't create dependency conflicts for other packages on the system, over-write configuration files or links without using update-alternatives and so on.
[23:14] <overclucker> Respite212: yes, but first mount it somewhere like /mnt and use sudo cp -aR /home/* /mnt
[23:15] <ClientAlive> TJ-: I see
[23:15] <ClientAlive> I think I'm gonna risk it for that desktop. Hope it doesn't screw me up, but what's shown in the vid looks pretty smooth.
[23:16] <vivid> ClientAlive, they are also good when ubuntu refuses to support or update certain things that people need
[23:16] <TJ-> ClientAlive: generally, the convention is to install non-distro packages to /opt/ or locally-built packages to /usr/local/ so as not to conflict with the distro's system files
[23:17] <Respite212> overclucker: doesn't work
[23:17] <ClientAlive> TJ-: I see. Well that manual installation looked like a serious pain  ;)
[23:17] <Respite212> sudo cp -aR/home/* /mnt
[23:17] <Respite212> cp: invalid option -- '/'
[23:17] <Respite212> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[23:18] <overclucker> Respite212: there's a space after -aR
[23:18] <Respite212> overclucker: cp: cannot stat `/home/geertt2/.gvfs': Permission denied
[23:18] <Respite212> hmm
[23:19] <static09> correct file name?
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> geert?
[23:21] <overclucker> Respite212: that wont break anything, so it's ok, only annoying
[23:22] <Respite212> overclucker: So what do I do now once I finished sudo co -aR /home/* /mnt?
[23:22] <Respite212> kinda new to linux
[23:23] <pushcx> I'm trying to debug a cron job, but I can't get output. I installed mailutils and set MAILTO=pushcx at the top of the cron job, and I added >/tmp/foo.log &>/tmp/foo.log to the end of the command, but no luck. Any suggestions?
[23:23] <jrib> pushcx: paste the relevant crontab line
[23:23] <overclucker> Respite212: set it to mount on /home in /etc/fstab then reboot
[23:24] <jrib> pushcx: also try replacing '&' with '2'
[23:25] <pushcx> jrib: * * * * * /usr/local/bin/tarsnapper -v -c /home/pushcx/.tarsnapper.conf make > /tmp/ts.log &> /tmp/ts.log
[23:25] <overclucker> Respite212: you may also want to remove the old files from /home or they will just be invisible clutter
[23:25] <Respite212> overcluckers: Err, sorry how do I get into /etc/fstab?
[23:25] <pushcx> cron says in the log that it's kicked it off but I never see it in top and it sure takes more than a minute to run, so it must be having some kind of error on load that I can't repro from a full login env
[23:26] <overclucker> Respite212: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[23:26] <jrib> pushcx: see if that change with the & at least gets you some you some output
[23:26] <pushcx> jrib: sure, let you know in 20s :)
[23:27] <pushcx> yeah, some kind of big python exception - thanks, jirb, now that I have debugging I can run it down.
[23:30] <Respite212> overcluckers: Ah... what exactly do I write in /etc/fstab? All I see are some lines.
[23:32] <ClientAlive> TJ-: That ppa seems to have worked ok. But I wonder if something is normal. This is the ouput of "update-alternative --config java"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268442/   Does that look normal to you? See how the same description entry appears twice?
[23:33] <overclucker> Respite212: /dev/sdXN /home ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2   where sdXN is your partition label
[23:34] <actionParsnip> overclucker: I'd suggest using UUIDs
[23:34] <goddard> can 12.10 be downloaded yet?
[23:34] <actionParsnip> goddard: it has for months
[23:34] <overclucker> actionParsnip: good call
[23:34] <TJ-> ClientAlive: The auto versus manual is just how the system chose which to use, so that looks OK
[23:34] <goddard> actionParsnip: i wanna get gnome 3.6
[23:34] <ClientAlive> TJ-: Right on. Thx
[23:35] <Gracenotes> flash video has gotten really messed up on both Firefox and Chrome, staggering and/or speeding up both video and audio. it's really disturbing. Any tips on making the pain go away?
[23:35] <actionParsnip> goddard: quantal has it by default. There may be a PPA for it in precise butI would take chances with something as fundamental as the desktop
[23:35] <bekks> Gracenotes: Blame it on Adobe. They cancelled Flash support for Linux.
[23:36] <Respite212> actionParsnip: How do I get a UUIDs from a disk?
[23:36] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: can you give the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[23:36] <Gracenotes> bekks: I updated something in apt-get and now it doesn't work, and it's not Adobe's thing that I updated
[23:36] <goddard> actionParsnip: yeah thats what i am thinking .. so you think its safe to just do an update to 12.10 now?
[23:36] <bekks> Gracenotes: You could try Chrome with embedded flash support
[23:36] <actionParsnip> Respite212: sudo blkid
[23:36] <actionParsnip> goddard: I always clean install, but you can upgrade now if you desire
[23:36] <pushcx> jrib: tracked down the missing env var and fixed it. My cron job is working perfectly. Thanks for your help. :)
[23:36] <ClientAlive> firfox crashed when I tried to do a java test
[23:37] <jrib> pushcx: no problem, nice work :)
[23:37] <overclucker> Respite212: run blkid in the terminal to determine the UUID for the partition and use UUID=your-UUID-label-here /home ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[23:37] <goddard> actionParsnip: do you do any work on your system?
[23:37] <bennypr0fane> help! my root passwort stopped working!
[23:37] <goddard> actionParsnip: how do you do a fresh install so often?
[23:37] <bennypr0fane> I'm sure I didn't change it
[23:37] <actionParsnip> goddard: work in what sense?
[23:37] <jrib> bennypr0fane: how do you know it stopped working?  There isn't a root password by default
[23:37] <actionParsnip> goddard: I reinstall the OS, upgrade it then get on. All my data is on a file server as well as my backps.....
[23:37] <bennypr0fane> I can't install application
[23:37] <goddard> actionParsnip: i dont know work at all I suppose .. I am a programmer and have a lot of projects and settings saved
[23:38] <jrib> bennypr0fane: how are you trying?
[23:38] <actionParsnip> goddard: fileserver holds everything I ned
[23:38] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: http://cogracenotes.com/tmp/flash
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> Ubuntu software center
[23:38] <actionParsnip> goddard: my $HOME is only 2Gb
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> won't let me install stuff
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> also at user accounts
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> I can't change settings
[23:38] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks, now how do I save the modified /etc/fstab?
[23:39] <goddard> actionParsnip: my Vm Ware images and ISOs eat up a lot of space
[23:39] <jrib> bennypr0fane: please don't use enter to break up your response.  What happens when you try?  Are you prompted for a password?
[23:39] <bennypr0fane> becs I need to enter the pwd first, but it's not accepted
[23:39] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer   then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[23:39] <jrib> bennypr0fane: open a terminal and tell us the output of « groups ».  Also please reply with my nick (jrib) if you want my attention
[23:39] <overclucker> Respite212: ctrl-o, ctrl-x
[23:39] <actionParsnip> goddard: if they are important to you, you should still have a backup
[23:39] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: ah. Okay, I'll try it from the source then...
[23:39] <bennypr0fane> Yes, I'm prompted for a pwd, but it won't be accepted, as if I had changed it - only I haven't
[23:39] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: source? what do you mean?
[23:40] <bennypr0fane> ok jrib
[23:40] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: adobe flash is proprietary, there is no freely available source
[23:40] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: bad phrasing. in this case, the souce is adobe.
[23:40] <Gracenotes> don't mean source code
[23:40] <Respite212> overclucker: Then I just reboot?
[23:40] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: the partner repo has what you need, it will install 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[23:40] <bennypr0fane> jrib: ~$ groups   ben adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[23:41] <actionParsnip> goddard: if your drive IDE dies, where is your data?
[23:41] <jrib> bennypr0fane: and when you type "su - ben" can you login there?
[23:41] <overclucker> Respite212: yup
[23:41] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks
[23:42] <bennypr0fane> jrib no, that doesn't work either
[23:42] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you're sure capslock is off?
[23:42] <goddard> actionParsnip: i have a external drive i back up to nightly
[23:42] <goddard> actionParsnip: ive never had to revert to that data so i have no idea how i would even do it
[23:43] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: yeah, I'm afraid that doesn't make a difference
[23:43] <goddard> actionParsnip: i use deja dup
[23:43] <actionParsnip> goddard: i suggest you look into it, so that you can
[23:43] <Gracenotes> ah well
[23:43] <bennypr0fane> jrib: yes, no capslock
[23:43] <jrib> bennypr0fane: well seems like your password was changed somehow then.  Do you want to reset it?
[23:43] <bennypr0fane> I have a notification led if it's turned on
[23:43] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: have you tried chrome?
[23:44] <Respite212> now can I reformat/repartition my original /home?
[23:44] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: it's even more messed up than FF. hm.
[23:44] <actionParsnip> goddard: just cleared some temp files out from my home folder and it's now this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268456/
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> jrib I did make a change to user account settings: I turned off pasword at login, because I didn't want to be asked to unlock the keyring at startup. maybe that deleted my pwd and replaced it /w something else?
[23:45] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: it has flash built in if you install the deb from the google site :)
[23:45] <Gracenotes> yep. well, it is pretty messed up.
[23:45] <overclucker> Respite212: nope, it's just a folder. if you want to clear the data from it, reboot into recovery, make sure your new home isn't mounted and rm -R /home/*
[23:45] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you're on 12.04?
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> jrib yes, I'd like to reset it
[23:45] <actionParsnip> goddard: mostt of it is my dropbox cace :)
[23:45] <Gracenotes> I did get the deb straight from google, too
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> yes, 12.04
[23:45] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: isn't it worth exploring though?
[23:46] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: I mean, it's mssed up on Chrome too.
[23:46] <jrib> bennypr0fane: if you want to reset your password, see ubottu
[23:46] <jrib> !password | bennypr0fane
[23:46] <Respite212> overclucker: Can't I use gparted to remove the partition?
[23:46] <overclucker> Respite212: make sure you don't delete the files from your new home
[23:47] <Gracenotes> Another thing is that there is clicking every so often when I use headphones. I think a larger issue, potentially, might be something messed up with the sound card.
[23:47] <bennypr0fane> I'm kinda freaked out. Is it possible I might have reset it by turning it off for login?
[23:47] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: I see, you weren't clear. Could download the 64bit flash plugin from the adobe site and put it into the browser's plugins folder
[23:47] <actionParsnip> Gracenotes: I assume you closed all browsers and reopened it after installing the flash plugin
[23:47] <overclucker> Respite212: was it on a partition before? I though you were moving it from root to a separate partition.
[23:47] <jrib> bennypr0fane: that's unlikely
[23:47] <jrib> bennypr0fane: maybe you chose the wrong option?
[23:48] <Respite212> overclucker: No, it was on it's seperate partition but I want my /home on another harddrive.
[23:48] <bennypr0fane> jrib possible
[23:48] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: wouldn't that be the same one as in the partner repository?
[23:48] <overclucker> Respite212: then yes you can use gparted for that
[23:48] <goddard> actionParsnip: haha mine is 90Gigs
[23:48] <bennypr0fane> problem is my UI is in German, so I'm not sure I'm translating to the correct terms of the English UI
[23:48] <Gracenotes> after I installed adobe-flashplugin and uninstalled the other one, I logged out and back in again
[23:49] <actionParsnip> goddard: here is my file server though: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268463/
[23:49] <Respite212> overclucker: now is there a way to add the additional space from the sda4 to /sdb1/home
[23:50] <goddard> actionParsnip: not sure what to think of that
[23:50] <bennypr0fane> In "users", I have just my account, with an "admin" tag. For "login options" I have "none" at "password", and "automatic login" is "on"
[23:50] <overclucker> Respite212: You could have mentioned that before you'll want lvm for that.
[23:51] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you probably removed that password with that "none" option, though I'm not sure
[23:51] <Respite212> overclucker: Uhh, sorry, this is still new to me.
[23:51] <jrib> s/that/your
[23:51] <actionParsnip> goddard: the data on my system is low so I can reinstall at will with near zero effort. The data I use and need is stored on a system which hasn't been reinstalled in years, and probably won't be until it dies. This is how I get my work done, as you say :)
[23:52] <bennypr0fane> jrib if I did remove it, I would now need to leave it blank when prompted, right? Bcs that doesn't work either, I checked
[23:52] <goddard> actionParsnip: dont applications need to save their data in your home directory?
[23:52] <Gracenotes> actionParsnip: ah. loading up videos in totem, I have the same problem
[23:52] <overclucker> Respite212: it's ok, you'll have to redo everything with some additional steps though
[23:52] <jrib> bennypr0fane: nah, you probably need to set one
[23:52] <goddard> Gracenotes: you can try Miro
[23:52] <jrib> bennypr0fane: I don't think blank passwords are allowed by default
[23:53] <actionParsnip> goddard: yes, but its very small as you can see
[23:53] <Gracenotes> oh. restarting alsa did some of the work.
[23:53] <Respite212> overclucker: What happened was I wanted to add more space to /home originally because it was running out of space and I had a second sd harddrive the system wasn't using.
[23:53] <actionParsnip> goddard: I even use transgui so that torrents are shipped to the file server with no effort :)
[23:53] <goddard> actionParsnip: i might have to see if i can implement something like that
[23:53] <bennypr0fane> jrib but I definitely didn't specify another one
[23:53] <Gracenotes> this is just ridiculous though. In the last few days, I've had to restart alsa every hour or so
[23:54] <Gracenotes> it didn't work to fix the problem I was having with flash, but apparently logging out and then restarting did the trick
[23:54] <actionParsnip> goddard: makes sense to me, its what works for me. Its not best but I just find it easier.
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> so to set a new one, I guess I follow the instructions on that wiki pagE?
[23:54] <jrib> bennypr0fane: my advice is for you to reset it
[23:54] <jrib> bennypr0fane: yeah
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> ok
[23:54] <Gracenotes> and there's still this clicking issue I have.
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> will try that, thanks jrib
[23:54] <shwaiil> hi
[23:55] <goddard> actionParsnip: i said when i got my new laptop a year ago i was going to spend some time and do it right but work keeps me to busy
[23:56] <shwaiil> Q: I want to install windows first before installing ubuntu in a new machine. I'm currently running ubuntu in my old machine, I used uNetbootIn to create a win7 boot usb drive, but it's not working. Anyone can sugest me a way for creating a usb boot ? Thanks for looking
[23:57] <IdleOne> shwaiil: For help with Windows ask in ##windows
[23:57] <shwaiil> IdleOne: I'm running ubuntu
[23:57] <shwaiil> tks for looking anyway
[23:57] <IdleOne> shwaiil: but you need help with Windows
[23:57] <shwaiil> IdleOne:  no I need help on creating a boot usb from ubuntu
[23:57] <IdleOne> We do Ubuntu support. ##windows does Windows support.
[23:58] <N9NU> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8112      Free Playboy TV media stream
[23:58] <actionParsnip> shwaiil: you can use unetbootin with a windows ISO using unetbootin. I believe you have to format the device to NTFS
[23:58] <Daekdroom> !guidelines | N9NU
[23:58] <N9NU> how nice to find such a program
[23:58] <IdleOne> shwaiil: The tool you use to create the Windows USB is irrelevant. You need windows help and that is done in ##windows
[23:58] <mr_t3> hi
[23:59] <shwaiil> IdleOne: I'm sorry, but you're missing the point. I want to understand how I can create a usb boot
[23:59] <shwaiil> actionParsnip: tks for looking! I tried with fat, I'll try with ntfs thanks
[23:59] <mr_t3> is there an rsync option to delete a source file after successful (validated) transfer?