[20:26] <EriC^^> BlackDex: yeah, if you don't have a need for any, run sudo apt-get purge <package> then reinstall it, all the config files will be gone
[20:27] <BlackDex> thats my problem :p
[20:27] <BlackDex> hehe
[20:27] <chrisyyyy> ioria, does not work, same output
[20:27] <BlackDex> i need to backup those first then
[20:27] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  oh
[20:27] <chrisyyyy> ioria, http://termbin.com/0qfp
[20:28] <chrisyyyy> ioria, but the third line is: file or folder not found
[20:28] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  File or directory not found
[20:28] <ioria> yep
[20:28] <EriC^^> BlackDex: try dpkg -L <package> | grep etc to make it a little easier to hunt them down, i think new ones wont be in the list though
[20:28] <chrisyyyy> ioria, yep, but this is 2-3 days ago.. nothing from yesterday where it was frozen too
[20:29] <sallu> i am in trouble
[20:29] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  using GNOME ?
[20:29] <sallu> anyOne here knows how to make uefi based bootable setup of ubuntu
[20:29] <chrisyyyy> ioria, aye, trying to find something useful in the gnome logs
[20:29] <BlackDex> EriC^^: thx ill go and extract the files from the package en overwrite them my self
[20:30] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  yep, i mean ... you're not using UNITY
[20:30] <slima> f[A
[20:30] <EriC^^> BlackDex: no problem
[20:30] <chrisyyyy> ioria, truew
[20:30] <ioria> chrisyyyy,   what desktop are you using ?
[20:31] <chrisyyyy> ioria, gdm3
[20:32] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  grep cdrom  /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:32] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  you can paste here
[20:33] <chrisyyyy> ioria, sure? :D
[20:33] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  yup
[20:33] <chrisyyyy> ioria, saw i'm wrong here :D
[20:33] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  it's ok, paste it, it's just one line
[20:33] <chrisyyyy> ioria, #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.5.0 _Jessie_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 20160604-14:07]/ jessie main
[20:34] <ioria> chrisyyyy,   you're Debian, not ubuntu, mate
[20:34] <chrisyyyy> ioria, said it one sentence before
[20:34] <ioria> chrisyyyy,   yep, sy
[20:35] <ioria> chrisyyyy,   so, the route is first your logs (/var/log/),  ten your video drivers ...
[20:36] <ioria> *then
[20:36] <ice9> when i launch gnome-terminal the first time after login, the desktop crash and the background turns to black color, where can be the issue?
[20:36] <ioria> chrisyyyy,   but i'm not good at Debian, #debian it's the right place
[20:37] <chrisyyyy> ioria, trying to find smth useful in syslog.gz
[20:37] <Bashing-om> ice9: Graphic's driver ?? pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' see the status of the driver .
[20:38] <Buntunewbie> Having used ppa-purge, a folder still remians in usr/share from a PPA I installed.  How do I remove it, and how do I remove ppa-purge?
[20:38] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  ok..... check if you have root owned files in your home folder , or some external sources added to the system (sources.list)
[20:39] <ice9> Bashing-om, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bd042501d498ea816e4573dbfd795668
[20:39] <chrisyyyy> ioria, whats the command for "show me files with their rights"?
[20:39] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  ls -l
[20:39] <xangua> 2:01 PM <xangua> Buntunewbie: the folder? What folder? What repository? Did you install anything from it?
[20:40] <EriC^^> Buntunewbie: type dpkg -S "/usr/share/...path/to/file"
[20:40] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  the freeze sometimes it's also an hardware issue about ram
[20:41] <Bashing-om> OverCoder: Hummmm .. hybrid graphics . Got a consistent config file ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' : To your pastebin site .
[20:42] <chrisyyyy> ioria, mhm.. thats annoying.. because theres a "magicmirror" script running on it, dont want to restart it everyday when im in front of the mirror :D
[20:42] <Buntunewbie> eric^^: Thanks, but the folder is still there.  I tried "dpkg -S /usr/share/indicator-keylock"
[20:43] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  you can try another DE (xfce4, or lxde) and see if the issue persists
[20:43] <EriC^^> Buntunewbie: did it say which package owns the file?
[20:43] <ice9> Bashing-om, any something useful in that output?
[20:43] <pavlos> fero, try sudo modprobe -r ideapad_laptop  (seems this module when loaded prevents wifi from starting
[20:43] <chrisyyyy> ioria, Nov 27 07:11:27 Trauminsel gnome-session[818]: (gnome-settings-daemon:974): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 1198 was not found when attempting to remove it
[20:43] <Buntunewbie> eric^^:  I am sorry, I do not know what you mean.
[20:43] <chrisyyyy> ioria, could that be something? the time should be the same as shown on the desktop
[20:44] <EriC^^> Buntunewbie: what did it output when you typed the command?
[20:44] <Bashing-om> ice9: Sorry , bad on my part ^ "  Hummmm .. hybrid graphics . Got a consistent config file ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' : To your pastebin site ." should have been directed to you .
[20:44] <fero> pavlos, nothing happen
[20:44] <Buntunewbie> eric^^:  "indicator-keylock: /usr/share/indicator-keylock"
[20:45] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  yep, it'a a bug of gnome-control-center
[20:45] <EriC^^> Buntunewbie: ok, if you don't need the package type sudo apt-get purge indicator-keylock
[20:45] <pavlos> fero, if you type lsmod | grep idea, nothing should list (the module was removed)
[20:45] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1264368 chrisyyyy
[20:46] <Buntunewbie> eric^^:  Wow, thank you!  Worked a treat, nice one.  How do I now remove ppa-purge?
[20:47] <fero> pavlos, when i installed the ubuntu i had to do somthing because my internal wifi had a similar problem
[20:47] <chrisyyyy> ioria, ok so i would test lxde since it is used on other machines with this script, maybe that should help. What do i have to do to install it properly and use it on startup?
[20:47] <EriC^^> Buntunewbie: sudo apt-get purge ppa-purge
[20:48] <pavlos> fero, I dont have a similar laptop to test, I just read various pages to see if something would help
[20:48] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  on ubuntu you just install lubuntu-desktop or lxde (on Debian i don't know) , then from gdm you select it as session
[20:48] <pavlos> fero, I think there is a conflict, both wifi drivers (modules) are loaded
[20:49] <chrisyyyy> ioria, mhm.. i think i have to read about lxde, cause i want to autologin and autostart the script
[20:49] <pavlos> fero, It should work with just the internal RTL
[20:49] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  autologin is troublesome
[20:49] <chrisyyyy> ioria, meh
[20:49] <pavlos> fero, If you need to use the external only (RT5370), you should disable the internal wifi on BIOS
[20:50] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  on deb,  apt-get install lxde
[20:50] <Buntunewbie> eric^^: Thank you so much for your time and your help.  You are a credit to open source, keep up the great work.
[20:50] <chrisyyyy> ioria, should i remove gnome?
[20:50] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  nope
[20:51] <chrisyyyy> ioria, but i have to change something so that lxde will boot on startup
[20:51] <Bashing-om> ice9: Did I loose ya ? Does the file exist ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' ?
[20:51] <EriC^^> Buntunewbie: no problem
[20:52] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  autologin you mean ?
[20:52] <fero> pavlos, negative... i use the external only in the dormitory because the Access point is far away of my room but when i travel i use the internal
[20:52] <chrisyyyy> ioria, the graphic environment it boots on startup is gnome
[20:52] <chrisyyyy> ioria, how to change it to lxde?
[20:52] <fero> i will try to  connect with internal and unplug the external
[20:53] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  oh, yes you need to remove the autologin you set for gnome, and enwble it for lxde
[20:53] <ioria> *enable
[20:53] <ice9> Bashing-om, yeah but there is no any error at all
[20:53] <fero> pavlos, when i buy the external wifi adaptor i don't installed any drivers... its possible that cause the problem?
[20:53] <chrisyyyy> ioria, nothing else? just change the autologin and it will boot on lxde with the user?
[20:54] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  removing the autologin, will give you the choice of DE, then you enable it for the new DE (lxde)
[20:54] <pavlos> fero, well, upon boot, if the drivers are in the kernel, it will load the modules. If not, you'd have to install the RT driver
[20:54] <phako> I seem to have trouble with systemd-resolved, networkmanager and dnsmasq
[20:54] <chrisyyyy> ioria, ah get it
[20:55] <phako> when using host/nslookup, i can perfetcly resolve a host name, when using ping, it fails
[20:55] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  so, you'll see again the gdm screen for login
[20:56] <fero> pavlos, also when i install ubuntu the internal wifi adaptor had a problem with power managment
[20:56] <Bashing-om> ice9: Then next is to see what ' /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ' has set for the display .
[20:56] <chrisyyyy> ioria, ok installed lxde now, i will give it a try tomorrow when im home. i can take a better look on it than
[20:56] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  ok, good luck
[20:56] <chrisyyyy> ioria, thanks for ur help mate
[20:56] <Kali_Yuga> hello everybody
[20:56] <ice9> Bashing-om, but the DE is working fine even i can run 3d game
[20:56] <ioria> chrisyyyy,  you're welcome
[20:58] <pavlos> fero, the rtl8723be is loaded from the pastebin you provided
[20:58] <fero> pavlos, this is the internal
[20:58] <Bashing-om> ice9: Sorry, now I am the one lost "  the desktop crash and the background turns to black color " would indicate a loss of graphics to me .
[20:59] <pavlos> fero, correct ... and the RT5370 is the external
[20:59] <ice9> Bashing-om, i'm sorry for the confusing, ONLY the background turn to black losing the background wall paper with a screen flicker; but the DE is still working, X doesn't crash
[21:00] <pavlos> fero, and the RT5370 is handled via the rt2800usb module
[21:01] <fero_> pavlos, maybe that will help you
[21:01] <fero_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23559803/
[21:01] <Bashing-om> ice9: Well , now that is a new one on me ,. I have no idea of what the causation might be . I will bow to others' advise in this matter .
[21:01] <ftamas88>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-45-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 4.01GHz ** RAM: Physical: 4.8GiB, 44.7% free ** Disk: Total: 45.2GiB, 53.6% free ** VGA: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter ** Sound: ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller ** Uptime: 35m 4s **
[21:02] <jose__> lose
[21:02] <jose__> hola
[21:05] <fero_> pavlos, anyway. Thanks for your time dude, i will try tomorow again
[21:05] <pavlos> fero, ok
[21:15] <guzzlefry> How can i restart the wifi network interface?
[21:15] <guzzlefry> The drivers seem to be crashing. :/
[21:16] <Bashing-om> guzzlefry: What release are you in ? makes a difference .
[21:16] <guzzlefry> Xubuntu 16.04
[21:16] <guzzlefry> Just started having issues, so I'm guessing an update broke things.
[21:18] <ice9> which modules to probe if the touchpad stopped working?
[21:25] <Bashing-om> guzzlefry: I do not know much about WIFI on 16.04 .. but might see what ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service ' does .
[21:27] <elGALLO> Hi, I have Ubuntu 16.0.1 Server with ubuntu-desktop installed. I made a RAID 0 of three 4TB drives = 12TB mounted to ~/data. SickRage  can't seem to write to RAID 0 mount/volume
[21:31] <bunjee> what's the steps to take to transfer files from a hdd to the computer with UBUNTU?
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  that's a very general question, be more specific
[21:32] <Bashing-om> bunjee: What is th path ?? from one ubuntu machine to another 'buntu machine on the same router ? or what ?
[21:33] <bunjee> trying to transfer MP3's or pictures from a hdd to my ubuntu os.
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  are you in ubuntu now? you can use cp (copy) or ssh
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> rsync, rather
[21:35] <bunjee> monkeydust - yes.....newby... don't know what cp or ssh is........
[21:36] <thebwt> what kind of hdd?
[21:36] <bunjee> seagate
[21:36] <thebwt> over a sata cable to the motherboard?
[21:37] <thebwt> does that other hdd have windows on it?
[21:39] <bunjee> seagate hdd just has mp3's and want tio transfer them on to Ubuntu hdd
[21:39] <thebwt> how is that hdd formatted
[21:40] <bunjee> have no idea
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  how is that hdd connected to the ubuntu machine?
[21:40] <bunjee> just with the usb
[21:40] <thebwt> that's not an hdd
[21:40] <thebwt> that's a flash drive
[21:41] <thebwt> it doesn't automatically come up when you plug it into the desktop?
[21:41] <elGALLO> or an extrnal bay
[21:41] <thebwt> elGALLO: I feel like.. in context thats unlikely
[21:41] <\9> bunjee: is it an external hard drive?
[21:42] <bunjee> ok........I get it...the hdd has a connection to the ubuntu machine that is usb
[21:42] <bunjee> \9.....yes
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  in ubuntu open a terminal and type this : lsblk -f ... then paste the outcome here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the link in the channel
[21:43] <\9> thebwt: there, quit the assumptions
[21:43] <thebwt> sure...
[21:44] <bunjee> monkeydust - FSTYPE LABEL UUID                                 MOUNTPOINT
[21:44] <bunjee> fd0
[21:44] <bunjee> sda
[21:44] <bunjee> ├─sda1 ext4         cd642ab1-1fcd-4486-88f7-350f9170cec4 /
[21:44] <bunjee> ├─sda2
[21:44] <bunjee> └─sda5 swap         283c7d73-c112-40d4-af0f-01df0b6194b7 [SWAP]
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  next time, use this http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:44] <EriC^^> fd0 ?
[21:44] <thebwt> all about dat floppy
[21:44] <\9> must be quite the old computer if it has a floppy drive...
[21:45] <teward> \9: or the bit is set in BIOS regardless of a floppy drive existing or not (happened to me a few too many times)
[21:45] <thebwt> true nuff
[21:45] <\9> bunjee: you may talk again
[21:45] <bunjee> monkeydust - okay - it's there now.....
[21:46] <bunjee> \9 - thank you...sorry....
[21:46] <\9> bunjee: it's alright, next time please use a pastebin service
[21:46] <\9> such as  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:48] <thebwt> bunjee: It's there meaning you got it to open, or it's there you pasted the output into ubuntu pastebin
[21:50] <bunjee> I'm in Dolphin now - I just want to drag some mp3's to the deaktop - when I disconnect the hdd - the mp3's do not play...
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  Dolphin, so it's KDE ?
[21:51] <bunjee> monkeydust - yes
[21:51] <Jordan_U> bunjee: What happens when you try to play the mp3 files after dragging them to the desktop? Do the mp3 files play if you open them directly from the external drive?
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  by dragging the files, it's possible you just symlink them, so if you disconnect the drive, there's nothing it's linked to
[21:51] <\9> perhaps you created links instead of copies
[21:52] <bunjee> jordan_u - links sounds like what's going on
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  hit ctrl-a to select all files, then right click and copy, then paste them in ubuntu
[21:53] <Jordan_U> bunjee: MonkeyDust: Possible, but I doubt that making symlinks is the default behavior for Dolphin when dragging and dropping files.
[21:54] <Pinkamena_D> Trying to install a latex package for all users, I cannot. I get (running on debian, switching to user mode!) while running tlmgr.
[21:54] <bunjee> monkeydust - I will paste what the error reads........it's there now
[21:54] <Pinkamena_D> how can I get a version of tlmgr or something imilar which does not always run in user mode?
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  use pastebin to paste the outcome here
[21:55] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Is the latex package you're trying to install available as a packge in the repositories? If so, I would recommend just installing it via apt.
[21:55] <bunjee> monkeydust - just clciked on paste
[21:55] <Pinkamena_D> Jordan_U: no, I used apt-file and it is not available
[21:56] <Jordan_U> bunjee: You need to share the URL of the paste in this channel for us to be able to access it.
[21:56] <bunjee> jordan_u  - ok....Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder /media/bunjee/Seagate Backup Plus Drive/Cream/Discography/1966 - Fresh Cream [DCC 24k Gold (GZS 1022)] @320/11 - Spoonful (Willie Dixon).mp3 does not exist.
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  paste the new url here
[21:57] <Pinkamena_D> Jordan_U: it is called 'tracklang', but I would rather fix this generally. Also I already asked over at the latex channel but they directted me here.
[21:57] <bunjee> Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder /media/bunjee/Seagate Backup Plus Drive/Cream/Discography/1966 - Fresh Cream [DCC 24k Gold (GZS 1022)] @320/11 - Spoonful (Willie Dixon).mp3 does not exist.
[21:58] <bunjee> monkeydust - is that correct?
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  you lost me, not sure what you are doing anymore
[22:01] <bunjee> monkeydust -what url?
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  on top, in the address bar http://...
[22:02] <bunjee> monkeydust - don't know how to use pastebin........http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  yes, paste the outcome of your command there, then click 'Paste!' ... then copy/paste the new url here
[22:04] <bunjee> monkeydust - http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  no, like so ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23559991/
[22:06] <piglit> whats the channel to chat about ubuntu phone ?
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> !phone
[22:08] <bunjee> monkeydust - I clicked on paste and the url didn't change
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  fill out your name, too, on that page
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> on top
[22:09] <bunjee> monkeydust - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23560013/
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> *phew*, great
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  what command did you enter and is unable to run?
[22:13] <bunjee> monkeydust - thank you - the ctrl-a and copy command worked....
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> bunjee  ok
[22:15] <thebwt> woot!
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> i need a smoke now
[22:16] <Bashing-om> Per: MonkeyDust ---- Smokers draw one !
[22:17]  * thebwt pats MonkeyDust on the back
[22:21] <kw1234> after upgrade of packages system cannot boot anymore... any ideas on how to troubleshoot?
[22:23] <thebwt> kw1234: tried diffrent kernels?
[22:23] <Rob235> hey
[22:23] <kw1234> thebwt boot device not recognized :(
[22:24] <thebwt> oh boy, I'm not sure on that
[22:24] <Rob235> I'm having some smb issues.  I cant connect to any network shares on my newly installed ubuntu partition
[22:24] <kw1234> and kernel was in the list pf updates...
[22:24] <Rob235> keeps asking for password
[22:24] <Rob235> but I can connect on other systems
[22:25] <Bashing-om> kw1234: Can you boot as far as the login screen ? And at the login screen can you activate a console interface ( ctl+alt+F1) ?
[22:26] <kw1234> Bashing-om no, that is the thing. looks like grub is messed up.
[22:27] <kw1234> so, ssd is not recognized as boot device anymore
[22:31] <Bashing-om> kw1234: Well, next up then as a step back, is if bios hands off to grub . Can you boot to the grub menu ? Maybe from there we can boot the system and fix grub ( if that is the problem) .
[22:33] <kw1234> Bashing-om: nope. just see Insert Boot Media... press any key
[22:34] <taliptako> hey i'm moving to ubuntu
[22:34] <taliptako> does ubuntu have media installer ?
[22:35] <taliptako> netinstall
[22:35] <thebwt> like http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/ ?
[22:35] <lil> what up ladies, lmao
[22:36] <Bashing-om> kw1234: Ouch, now that is unreal for any upgrade to have such a drastic effect . But, we can "look" , Biit up a liveUSB(DVD) and pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' so we know what we are working with and consider re-installing grub .
[22:36] <Bashing-om> biit/boot**
[22:36]  * kw1234 off for making liveUSB...
[22:48] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23560167/
[22:49] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: look'n .
[22:52] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: A EFI system ? What results ' sudo efibootmgr -v ' .
[22:54] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: don't have efibootmgr
[22:54] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: 15.10 LiveUSB...
[22:55] <kw1234_> And, yes EFI, although like 5yrs old
[22:56] <hipitihop> On 16.04 when I initiate a gracefull shutdown e.g. sudo reboot or update manager prompts to, do lxd/docker and vagrant vm's shutdown gracefully too or do I need my own init scripts or some such
[23:00] <yorwos> i just made a video with recordMyDesktop , and after waiting for it to encode the video is not complete the last minutes are missing , its still open i havent closed it , any ideas why this might happen ?
[23:02] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: Well . sorry for the delay ,, is there any return ' /sys/firmware/efi/ ' ? As I want to determine if UEFI is also a factor .
[23:03] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: Make that command ' ls -al /sys/firmware/efi/ ' . .
[23:04] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: np, meanwhile installed efibootmgr http://paste.ubuntu.com/23560232/
[23:04] <crc_> hello
[23:06] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: ls -al /sys/firmware/efi/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23560238/
[23:06] <darkash> Is using a terminal browser a bad idea?
[23:07] <reisio> darkash: not particularly bad, no
[23:07] <reisio> right tool for the job & all that
[23:07] <reisio> crc_: hi
[23:09] <yorwos> any ideas why im missing last minutes of video made in recordMyDesktop ?
[23:10] <bazhang> yorwos, have you tried kazam yet
[23:10] <yorwos> kazam ? no 1st time i hear of it
[23:11] <bazhang> !info kazam
[23:12] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: UEFI system huh .. I got to go tend to dogs .. be back soonest .
[23:13] <guille1> hi! I have a strange problem with nginx on ubuntu. Could someone help me troubleshoot it? I have website hosted on my server. It worked fine until a couple of days ago. Now I get a timeout error on connection from outside LAN, but can load the site perfectly from within my LAN.
[23:14] <guille1> thanks
[23:15] <genii> guille1: Check to see if your ISP changed the IP
[23:17] <guille1> genii: I did, there's no problem there
[23:21] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: yep, thank you for your time... Got hands on apt-logs see some warnings http://paste.ubuntu.com/23560350/
[23:21] <amikrop> Hi, I used this guide http://www.binarytides.com/ubuntu-fix-nvidia-graphics/ and instead of splash image I see nothing (just the purple-ish background) during boot. This method used to work for me in previous Ubuntu versions though.
[23:22] <guille1> I have more information. I have 2 sites on the same server. One loads fine, so it isn't a router issue. This happened out of the blue, no changes were made to the site.
[23:23] <reisio> guille1: perhaps a 'localhost' vs '<IP_ADDRESS>' issue, or the like
[23:23] <reisio> I'd talk to #nginx
[23:27] <guille1> reisio: what do you mean a bjy.0.0.b issue?
[23:28] <reisio> guille1: I mean talk to #nginx
[23:35] <yorwos> is there any command to give through terminal so that recordmydesktop will encode the rest of my video ? i dont think i can record the same thing again , lots of players in a game were involved
[23:35] <reisio> yorwos: what format is it now? (ffmpeg -i file)
[23:35] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: Back for the naunce . I do not know what to make of the apt log .. but sure makes me want to check the file system .
[23:36] <reisio> if you just have a half-encoded output, you probably want to find the original file, probably in /tmp/, but possibly in the working dir
[23:37] <yorwos>  Stream #0:1: Video: theora, yuv420p, 1920x1072 [SAR 1:1 DAR 120:67], 15 fps, 15 tbr, 15 tbn, 15 tbc
[23:38] <reisio> yorwos: so: ffmpeg -i input.file -c:v libx264 -c:a libfdk_aac output.mp4
[23:38] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: the only things I see that are out of ordinary... All packages were updated OK. There were no similar warnings in previous kernel updates. Searching through interwebs resulted in few entries saying that these warnings are not harmful.
[23:38] <reisio> yorwos: you might also want to make it lower res, too
[23:39] <reisio> yorwos: for which, IIRC, you can add in '-vf scale=1280:-1'
[23:39] <WyZeGuY> Root is so unforgiving.
[23:39] <reisio> depends on who your audience is
[23:40] <yorwos> this .ogv file is missing my last minutes of the video, i can re-encode it to whatever but my problem is the rest of the missing video
[23:40] <reisio> some people would rather have a buffered 1080 video than un unbuffered 720 <shrug>
[23:40] <reisio> yorwos: you need to find the original source file, if it exists
[23:40] <reisio> yorwos: check /tmp/ or the dir the ogv was saved in
[23:40] <yorwos> undelete source in /tmp somehow then ?
[23:41] <reisio> it wouldn't have been deleted unless you did a reboot, at least
[23:41] <reisio> and not always in that case
[23:41] <yorwos> no i havent reboot
[23:41] <amikrop> This http://askubuntu.com/questions/362722/how-to-fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases/ used to work for me in previous Ubuntu versions, but not in 16.04 (instead of viewing the splash image I just see the empty purple background). Any help, please?
[23:41] <WyZeGuY> I was setting up a self-hosting note app, and in the folder I was at, I ran "mv /* /var/www/html/serve" ... yea, it started moving the entire drive to that folder. I noticed it when my desktop icons started disappearing, and was like awwwww shit
[23:42] <bazhang> no cursing here please WyZeGuY
[23:42] <WyZeGuY> bazhang, did I curse?
[23:42] <bazhang> yes
[23:43] <WyZeGuY> bazhang, I'm rereading it, and I don't see any cursing
[23:43] <bazhang> 'awwww -->that word<----'
[23:44] <WyZeGuY> bazhang, what, "shit"? that's not a curse word anymore
[23:44] <yorwos> i can't find anything in /tmp or /home/Desktop either pointing to the raw files of recordmydesktop
[23:44] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: Presently I am just not sure bow how best to proceed . Not able to boot to the hrub boot menu bothers me greatly and then there is " checksum areas are greater than image size. Invalid section table? " . Can not see how running a file system check from the liveUSB would not be a good thing to do . Are we looking at sda2 as 'root' and sda4 as /home ?
[23:44] <reisio> yorwos: find /tmp -type f -exec file {} \; | grep -i video
[23:45] <bazhang> WyZeGuY, lets just not repeat it here, thanks
[23:45] <reisio> yorwos: it might also be in ~/ (/home/youruser)
[23:45] <WyZeGuY> let's not repeat it? it it it it it lol i repeated it
[23:46] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: exactly, sda2 is root sda4 is home
[23:46] <WyZeGuY> "fuck" and "cunt" are still considered curse words, so i won't say those. deal?
[23:47] <reisio> yorwos: it's also possible it was all stored in memory, in which case it's gone; that'd be odd, though
[23:47] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: Let's take a gentle poke and see what fsck thinks ' sudo fsck /dev/sda2 ' . Depending on what results we may want to get the more agressive .
[23:48] <reisio> yorwos: http://www.chiptoxic.net/?q=node/18
[23:49] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: clean
[23:52] <guille1> hi! I have a problem with nginx on ubuntu. A website won't load from outside my LAN. This happened 2 days ago with no prior change to the site. I can load it from inside my LAN and I can also access another website hosted on the same server from anywhere. Can someone help me please troubleshoot this problem?
[23:52] <yorwos> yea, the app says it saves the files in /tmp , but there is no directory in the format of rMD-session-*****
[23:52] <yorwos> i still havent closed the app, its still running
[23:53] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: Humm .. I guess that is a good thing ! what results now rebooting and setting in the UEFI firmware to boot " Boot0000 ' >> Hard DriveBBS(HD,,0x0) ??
[23:53] <reisio> guille1: #ubuntu-server
[23:54] <guille1> join #ubuntu-server
[23:56] <yorwos> do you think would work ?   locate rMD-session-* | grep /rMD-session-*$
[23:57] <yorwos> no results
[23:58]  * kw1234_ hopes to be back
[23:58] <kw1234_> Bashing-om: wish me luck ;)
[23:59] <Bashing-om> kw1234_: Well, no luck ..hard work =  just hoping we do not next re-install grub ,, as I have little familiariry with UEFI systems .


[00:51] <jthan> Looks like we might engage in war tomorrow....
[00:59] <andrew> we as in #ubuntu-us-pa ? USA?
[00:59] <jthan> USA
[01:00] <andrew> [citation needed]
[01:00] <jthan> I'm just guessing.
[01:00] <jthan> http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/12/19/north.korea.tensions/index.html?hpt=T1
[01:00] <PennBot> Title: South Korea says exercises to start Monday - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com)
[01:00] <jthan> @cn
[01:00] <PennBot> [Citation Needed]
[01:00] <jthan> oh he still has that
[03:24] <ChinnoDog> hi BeckySanderlin`x
[12:09] <JonathanD> morning PA
[13:53] <andrew> Morning Bridgeport
[13:54] <andrew> & Morning PA
[13:54] <andrew> & Morning CA
[13:54] <andrew> Anyone else?
[13:56] <jedijf> LA
[13:59] <andrew> Morning LA
[17:22] <pleia2> vietnam?
[17:56] <ChinnoDog> It won't be morning in Vietnam for several more hours.
[17:57] <BeckySanderlin`x> IT IS A GLORIOUS MORNING
[17:57] <JonathanD> oh hey
[17:57] <JonathanD> no one told me it was lunch time!
[17:57] <BeckySanderlin`x> NO OTHER MORNING COMES CLOSE TO THIS MORNING
[17:58] <JonathanD> eheh :)
[17:59] <BeckySanderlin`x> NO OTHER AFTERNOON CAME AS CLOSE TO THE JOY I FELT LAST AFTERNOON
[17:59] <BeckySanderlin`x> NO OTHER EVENING [ .. ]
[17:59] <BeckySanderlin`x> im ...
[17:59] <BeckySanderlin`x> i cant express how i feel
[17:59]  * BeckySanderlin`x does a dance
[17:59] <JonathanD> I'm sorry to hear that :(
[18:00] <BeckySanderlin`x> its  a happy non expression tho
[18:09] <ChinnoDog> So is anyone buying their relatives / kids / pets a netbook with Ubuntu they won't know what to do with this year?
[18:09] <JonathanD> nope
[18:09] <JonathanD> well, I got my dog one
[18:09] <JonathanD> but he's been using ubuntu for almost a year.
[18:09] <andrew> We'll see, perhaps I'll be helping get my brother one in January
[18:10] <andrew> But my issue with the current batches of netbooks is the lack of SSD options
[18:14] <pleia2> that's ashame
[18:15] <JonathanD> andrew: thats cause a SSD large enough to happily run windows costs too much.
[18:16] <BeckySanderlin`x> whats diff btwn HDD & SSD
[18:19] <ChinnoDog> latency on SSD is next to nothing
[18:19] <ChinnoDog> throughput on modern SSDs is near that of HDD but even if it is a little less the latency difference will make up for it in most performance tests
[18:19] <ChinnoDog> Plus, it uses less power and is less likely to fail because no moving parts
[18:20] <pleia2> and it can take a beating better - dropping your laptop and ruining your harddrive is far less likely
[18:20] <pleia2> so it's nice for netbooks that you toss in bags and things for travel
[18:20] <pleia2> 40G drives have come down in price, and that's plenty for windows
[18:21] <pleia2> I think people make direct comparisons though, they see 160G SATA drives for a fraction of the price of SSD and want those instead :(
[18:23] <JonathanD> probably
[18:24] <JonathanD> $300 netbook with 32GB SDD, $300 netbook with 160GB HDD.
[18:24] <JonathanD> Most people see the "160 vs 32" and it ends there.
[18:25] <ChinnoDog> What is the least expensive netbook on the market now?
[18:26] <BeckySanderlin`x> These Apps Are Rampantly Stealing Your Info Without Permission  http://gizmodo.com/5715169/
[18:26] <PennBot> Title: These Apps Are Rampantly Stealing Your Info Without Permission (at gizmodo.com)
[18:28] <PennBot> BeckySanderlin`x took my job.
[18:28] <BeckySanderlin`x> nah
[18:28] <BeckySanderlin`x> im just amazed at twiiter
[18:28] <PennBot> But... you read the title before I had a chance to...
[18:29] <BeckySanderlin`x> oh.
[18:29] <PennBot> :(
[18:29] <BeckySanderlin`x> no, i copied the title for the other channels/servers im in
[18:35] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: oh dear, what did they do to the wendy's fries?
[18:36] <pleia2> google tells me they have more calories and more salt, boo
[18:36] <JonathanD> pleia2: they are weird now and have sea salt.
[18:36] <JonathanD> still taste ok dipped in BBQ
[18:41] <andrew> And this is why I pay off my card in full every month (well, every month that I use it) http://www.billshrink.com/blog/10520/minimum-balance-nightmare-why-it-pays-to-overpay/
[18:41] <PennBot> Title: Minimum Balance Nightmare: Why It Pays to Overpay | Shrinkage Is Good (at www.billshrink.com)
[18:53] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: They delicified them
[18:53] <ChinnoDog> The old ones were a little on the bland side
[18:53] <ChinnoDog> not sure why they would have more calories. Maybe because they are skinny?
[18:54] <ChinnoDog> or maybe because they use russets now
[18:54] <pleia2> looks like only 10 more calories in a small, but the sodium spike is significant
[18:54] <pleia2> and I don't love salt :\
[18:54] <ChinnoDog> so ask for them unsalted
[18:55] <ChinnoDog> That is the status quo for getting fries with less salt, right?
[18:55] <pleia2> have you ever tried to ask for fries w/o salt at a fast food restaurant?
[18:55] <pleia2> it doesn't really work :)
[18:56] <pleia2> they either say "no" or they say "sure!" and then they are just as salty anyway
[18:57] <pleia2> I have been tending to skip fries lately, calorie-wise they are the same as that sandwich you're eating, except with very little actual nutritional value, it's almost better to just get two sandwiches
[19:01] <ChinnoDog> I don't usually get fries, but I wanted to try new Wendys fries
[19:24] <ChinnoDog> Anyone running Ubuntu on an ARM based netbook?
[20:10] <BeckySanderlin`x> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/214200/10_lastminute_gift_ideas_for_linux_geeks.html?tk=twt_linuxline
[20:10] <PennBot> Title: 10 Last-Minute Gift Ideas For Linux Geeks - PCWorld Business Center (at www.pcworld.com)
[20:26] <pleia2> yay, compeng barbie makes the list again :)
[20:27] <pleia2> (she's been popping up on some other linux xmas gift lists this year)
[20:27] <BeckySanderlin`x> yah i noticed that around the net
[20:32] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: post arm question to ml -kejava has/had one


[15:21] <zippo^> hello
[15:21] <zippo^> I am worried about the power of AK-parti and Erdogan in Turkey )-:
[15:21] <zippo^> I am stress too
[15:25] <damascene> zippo^, mind your own business, this channel is logged and it's not about politics. If you can help the OS community then welcome.
[17:42] <GencFuhler> slm
[18:07] <hwpplayer1> selam
[18:07] <hwpplayer1> a.s.
[18:45] <zippo^> ok, damascene
[18:47] <damascene> zippo^, I would like to discuss things with you in ##politics when you want
[18:48] <zippo^> they are high nivo


[08:30] <disc0tech> Good morning, I have a question, I setup a VM using TestDrive/Virtual Box using Trusty a couple of weeks ago, and have been using it for developing / testing autopilot tests.  I should probably upgrade to the latest Alpha - should I rebuild the VM from scratch?  Or just run apt-get upgrade?
[08:31] <Noskcaj> In the VM running apt-get dist-upgrade will be enough
[08:31] <disc0tech> thanks, will do that
[10:23] <senan> DanChapman: Good Eve :D
[10:27] <DanChapman> hey senan
[10:31] <senan> DanChapman: what can we do for the scan remote folder dialog..its a separate dialog..is it possible to catch it using autopilot ?
[10:33] <DanChapman> senan, if you can get the pid of the dialog you could use get_proxy_object_for_existing_process but since we will not have an external network connection when running in the lab I wouldn't say it's a priority feature to be testing, I'd say cover all other options and then come back to it :-)
[10:35] <senan> DanChapman: Can you please take a look at the current code and give me some suggestion on the To Do's
[10:42] <senan> DanChampan: I'm not sure what all things I need to do in that now
[11:06] <senan> DanChapman: how do I call the get_proxy_object_for_existing_process
[11:06] <senan> DanChapman: I got the pid by using ps .. do I need to import any library for the function
[11:14] <senan> DanChapman: I got the following error while using the proxy_object call http://paste.ubuntu.com/6813637/
[11:25] <DanChapman> senan you need to import get_proxy_object_for_exisitng_process then do 'proxy_obj = get_proxy_object_for_existing_process(pid) see http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/api/introspection.html
[12:19] <senan> DanChapman : Can you please review my code ?
[12:40] <senan> DanChapman : Is it possible to set focus to an editbox explicitly ?
[12:41] <DanChapman> senan, if you update the MP i'll review it that way :-) Yes use the keyboard focused_type context manager. It will get the entries focus for you
[12:42] <senan> DanChapman : OK. I've managed to get the connect_to_server dlg and not trying to enter the server name :)
[12:43] <DanChapman> senan awesome :-D
[13:12] <senan> DanChapman : Is it possible to wait until some operation to finish instead of using sleep
[13:25] <senan> DanChapman, pused my new changes
[13:25] <senan> DanChapman, Can you please check and let me know what all things needs to be done ?
[13:42] <senan> DanChapman: I think I've completed almost everything...need your valuable suggestions to proceed :D


[00:22] <user|80304> hola!!
[00:22] <keithzg> Hmm does Akonadi not work when MariaDB is installed rather than MySQL?
[01:17] <GnadenAce> GnadenAce
[01:19] <GnadenAce> wisp
[02:26] <coder123> can someone please tell me what the help channel is? I have specific question about connecting to wifi
[02:27] <coder123> i know  what the issue is but idk how to solve it
[02:28] <krytarik> coder123: If it's not Kubuntu-specific, might want to better ask in #ubuntu
[02:32] <coder123> ok not sure whether or not it is but i'll give that a shot
[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:20] <Jackx> hi
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:03] <schmeisser> hi everybody
[13:04] <schmeisser> I'm trying to build a customn live cd and system image based on kubuntu
[13:05] <schmeisser> I found https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Live-Build which talks about an obscure plattform and uses an undated "latest" sample configuration
[13:05] <schmeisser> is there some version control system where I can find the live-build configuration files or whatever else is used for baking kubuntu live cds?
[13:07] <hateball> schmeisser: probably get more replies in #kubuntu-devel
[13:07] <schmeisser> hateball: thanks for the tipp, will try
[13:11] <hateball> schmeisser: that said, people are likely in both channels but the other is more geared toward dev work so :)
[14:20] <markus_d> how would I access windows shares on the network?
[14:31] <oerheks> schmeisser, uck is dead, maybe cubic is what you want https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[14:38] <schmeisser> oerheks: thanks, cubic sounds nice and will propably bring me some of the way but I'm also looking at something more automated (ie a set of text files that I can put in git/svn and that build a defined image)
[14:57] <markus_d> I want to access something like: M:\Folder\Folder from linux. How would I do that?
[14:57] <markus_d> M: is a network share
[14:59] <lordievader> markus_d: M is a mounted network share I suppose? For dolphin the format is `smb://<server-ip>/Folder/Folder`.
[15:03] <markus_d> lordievader: Yes. Its a windows share. I don't know the ip but I checked a few minutes ago in win10 and its named somthething like: \\dc-23.bh.priv
[15:04] <lordievader> `dc-23.bh.priv` is a hostname, so the dolphin format would be `smb://dc-23.bh.priv/Folder/Folder`
[15:08] <markus_d> lordievader: Damn. It asks for username and password. I enter it and it fails. Maybe I neet the domainname somewhere?
[15:09] <lordievader> Perhaps, I don't know how it is setup on the server side.
[15:16] <Guest38489> whats the name of the panel that shows you the currently opened applications in the taskbar?
[15:17] <Guest38489> Also Plasma's stuck at 100% CPU utilisation with any kindof loading icon spinnging out of control
[15:17] <Guest38489> :/
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Guest38489, task manager
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Guest38489, click on the 3 dashes at the far right in the panel and you'll see the panel options
[15:46] <schmeisser> markus_d: just write domain/user.name as username
[16:01] <Guest38489> BluesKaj: thanks. Got it!
[18:45] <titou_> hey
[18:45] <titou_> I'm trying to use kubuntu on a 2-in-1 laptop
[18:45] <titou_> Is there a solution to get a desktop friendly for that kind of thing?
[18:46] <titou_> gnome is well fitted for that but I didn't found a similar thing with KDE..
[18:46] <titou_> and I didn't found "plasma-mobile" packages
[18:51] <BluesKaj> 2in 1 desktop, like kde/plssma and gnome?
[18:53] <titou_> 2-in-1 laptop means a laptop which is also a tablet
[18:53] <BluesKaj> kde apps dol run on gnome and vice-versa
[18:54] <titou_> hu?
[18:54] <titou_> in fact I'm just looking for a solution in order to get KDE usable when my laptop is in "tablet" mode (ie. without keyboard nor trackpad)
[18:55] <titou_> with virtual keyboard, specific look and feel etc.
[18:55] <titou_> GNOME does it "out of the box" when it detects that kind of device
[18:55] <titou_> but not KDE and I wonder if there is a simple solution for that
[18:56] <titou_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMAJ0EJCK2s <- here is an example
[18:58] <BluesKaj> i don't watch yourube tutorials... they're untrustworthy
[18:59] <BluesKaj> youtube
[18:59] <titou_> i don't care about what he's talking about
[18:59] <titou_> i just show you what gnome fitted for tablet means and what I'm looking for under KDE
[19:00] <BluesKaj> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-active-three/
[19:02] <titou_> it has been changed for plasma-mobile but there is no such package under kubuntu..
[19:18] <BluesKaj> where did you look ?
[19:18] <titou_> in the package manager
[19:19] <BluesKaj> well discover isn't the best place to look, I recommend muon , it's a much better reference for packages in my experience
[19:20] <titou_> sorry it's where i was looking for
[19:23] <titou_> in the past it seems that there were a such package: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/kubuntu-active/
[19:23] <titou_> but I can't find it
[19:23] <titou_> since the active project is over it might be the reason
[19:26] <BluesKaj> titou_, 13.10 ? that's no longer suported
[19:26] <BluesKaj> and hasn't been for many yrs
[19:31] <titou_> thus there is no solution we cannot use KDE on a tablet..
[19:31] <titou_> I have to work under gnome..
[19:31] <titou_> very good news :|
[19:35] <BluesKaj> titou_, 13.10 with ubuntu is no longer supported either, it's also eol
[19:35] <BluesKaj> !eol
[19:45] <aw-android> Good evening. Is my irc working?
[19:45] <aw-android> Can someone please reply if this message is broadcast? Thanks.
[19:47] <aw-android> Anyone?
[19:51] <titou_> BluesKaj: I know.. that's why I'm here to find another solution
[19:51] <titou_> I only have the latest kubuntu version
[20:01] <javier_> jola
[20:01] <javier_> hola


[15:19] <tdaitx> could someone please create tasks for Xenial and Zesty for LP: #1696814 with priority "medium"?


[00:04] <RAOF> bryceh: We wanted the original X stack to be available on the CD.  The .3 point release will have Q's X stack on the CD.
[00:05] <bryceh> RAOF, ah so the task isn't worded correctly
[00:05] <RAOF> So, if someone has some hardware that doesn't work with Q's X stack, the .3 LiveCD will be useless for them, but they could install from .1 or .2, not pull in the Q stack, and happily use Precise for the full support period.
[00:09] <bryceh> RAOF, since the P and Q stacks can co-exist in the archive, should they both be included in the .3 LiveCD?
[00:10] <bryceh> hmm, I suppose that may not help if the LiveCD doesn't boot to begin with
[00:10] <RAOF> bryceh: Possibly; there are two obvious problems - (a) cd space, (b) how do you select which X stack?
[00:11] <bryceh> (a) is probably irrelevant; (b) is a good point.  Presumably it'd need some sort of hook in grub or something.
[00:12] <bryceh> RAOF, anyway ok thanks, I'll ping the archive guys
[00:35] <Sarvatt> err, having all stacks coinstallable?
[00:35] <bryceh> Sarvatt, ?
[00:36] <Sarvatt> that sounds a bit scary, i was going under the assumption one would replace the other, namespacing the actual binaries isn't gonna happen, alternatives for the whole stack sonds like a nightmare, not going to be able to do anything from grub if its not all coinstallable
[00:37] <RAOF> Yeah, they're not going to be coinstallable.
[00:38] <RAOF> But you'd be able to have them all on the CD, at the cost of a little bit of boot-time madness.
[00:38] <RAOF> I do not suggest that we implement that madness, but it wouldn't be *too* hard.
[00:39] <RAOF> It would just be utterly untested until we tried to roll out the .3 point release, which doesn't sound like the right time for boot time madness testing :)
[00:41] <bryceh> well by hook in grub I meant more along the lines of a script that would do the X stack reinstall
[00:44] <bryceh> but regarding binary package names, I had assumed we *would* need to rename them all.  Can two versions of a binary package exist in the archive with the same name?
[00:44] <Sarvatt> so just an upstart script querying the dpkg database that adds 1 second to the boot time noone will accept? :P
[00:44] <Sarvatt> package name differences are a pain in the ass but fine, i was saying renaming the actual binaries isn't going to happen
[00:45] <Sarvatt> like /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i915_dri-q.so or whatever
[00:46] <Sarvatt> too much stuff depends on exact names
[00:46] <bryceh> ah right
[00:47] <bryceh> yeah, agree that'd be too much insanity for too little gain; it's hopefully just a corner case where people will want the older point releases
[00:48] <Sarvatt> it's already going to be a nightmare making sure the entire stack upgrades right, the breaks: in xserver really screw up apt and no clue why it happens
[00:49] <Sarvatt> like if one package isn't available or installed outside of the archive (vbox providing an abi virtual package) it tries to remove a ton of X crap and install all the proprietary drivers
[00:52] <Sarvatt> then we get bugs about inverted screens when booting with compiz after that happens because they are using nvidia libglx
[00:52] <bryceh> that was an awesome bug
[00:52] <Sarvatt> i still see that bug on the debian-x mailing lists all the time :(
[00:52] <bryceh> USB boot sticks with persistence, yay!
[11:28] <LetoThe2nd> howdy! today's xorg-edgers updates seem to break some things on my box in funny ways ... :)
[11:29] <LetoThe2nd> first observation: running terminator after the update breaks with: You need to install the python bindings for gobject, gtk and pango to run Terminator.
[11:30] <LetoThe2nd> second observation: running virtualbox fails with: VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: xcb_glx_set_client_info_2arb
[11:30] <LetoThe2nd> what might be of interest here? configuration is triple head on 2x ati hd5450
[11:51] <LetoThe2nd> re-installing the stuff out of the ppa didn't fix things... any ideas how to proceed? what might be the source, or where to poke for additional relevant details?
[12:00]  * LetoThe2nd guesses the channel might be more alive durig US office times :/
[12:01] <tjaalton> well don't run edgers if you don't know how to handle the downfall
[12:02] <tjaalton> it's git snaphots from upstream code, anything can go wrong
[12:02] <LetoThe2nd> tjaalton: i'm not complaining, just trying to report issues. i would do on launchpad if i knew the relevant package.
[12:02] <tjaalton> report upstream
[12:03] <ricotz> what is the issue?
[12:04] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: todays edgers updates broke things in a way that i don't understand yet.
[12:04] <ricotz> mesa is currently quite broken
[12:04] <LetoThe2nd> first observation: running terminator after the update breaks with: You need to install the python bindings for gobject, gtk and pango to run Terminator.
[12:04] <LetoThe2nd> second observation: running virtualbox fails with: VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: xcb_glx_set_client_info_2arb
[12:04] <tjaalton> don't expect virtualbox to work with unstable upstream code
[12:04] <ricotz> yes that is known
[12:04] <LetoThe2nd> tjaalton: until this morning it worked quite well.
[12:05] <ricotz> this the mesa problem which hopefully resolves itself with the next update
[12:05] <ricotz> LetoThe2nd, you can revert to the last snapshot and everything should be fine again
[12:06] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: have a link to relevant documentation, maybe?
[12:06] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: and then just stick with the installed version? or what do you suggest?
[12:07] <ricotz> LetoThe2nd, you can install the old deb package which might be in your apt cache or you can get it from the ppa page
[12:07] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: ah ok, the manual way.
[12:07] <ricotz> yes
[12:08] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: and then just deactivate the updates for now?
[12:10] <ricotz> yeah, just dont update mesa the other things should be fine
[12:10] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: will give it a try, thanks.
[12:11] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: if it's known, i guess nobody cares about reporting somewhere?
[12:12] <ricotz> LetoThe2nd, this is probably reported already
[12:13] <LetoThe2nd> ok
[12:13] <ricotz> like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/911611
[12:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 911611 in mesa (Ubuntu) "ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk crashed with ImportError in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: xcb_glx_set_client_info_2arb (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[12:15] <ricotz> tjaalton, ^ this is using edgers ppa for sure
[12:16] <tjaalton> ricotz: ok
[12:18] <ricotz> Sarvatt, ^ more trouble than i expected ;)
[12:42] <ricotz> tjaalton, http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxwacom/files/xf86-input-wacom/ ;)
[12:49] <tjaalton> ricotz: maybe together with xserver 1.11
[12:51] <ricotz> tjaalton, you might want to put it in ubuntu-x-swat/x-staging
[12:51] <tjaalton> yeah, why not
[12:51] <ricotz> so it is ready for the pocket copy
[12:53] <tjaalton> right
[13:40] <LetoThe2nd> ricotz: manually downgrading seems to have fixed it, thanks.
[16:32] <Sarvatt> LetoThe2nd: yeah I'm trying to get it fixed up but its still broken on mesa master and running into problems with the fix on the lists, will let ya know when its safe to upgrade again
[16:51] <Sarvatt> looks like idr's latest fix is just broken on osmesa and swx11 mesa build targets, dri builds fine
[18:45] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hi
[18:46] <Sarvatt> ricotz: heya
[18:46] <Sarvatt> v2: Move the AM_CONDIATION outside the case-statement so that it is
[18:46] <Sarvatt> invoked even for non-GLX builds.  This prevents build failures with
[18:46] <Sarvatt> osmesa, for example.
[18:46] <Sarvatt> \o/
[18:47] <ricotz> Sarvatt, why did you remove the libxcb-glx0-dev build-dep?
[18:47] <Sarvatt> i did?
[18:47] <ricotz> the last diff says so :\
[18:47] <Sarvatt>  linux-libc-dev (>= 2.6.31) [linux-any],
[18:47] <Sarvatt>  libxcb-glx0-dev,
[18:48] <ricotz> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/89080372/mesa_7.12.0~git20120103.2ae591bd-0ubuntu0sarvatt4_7.12.0~git20120104.892a2542-0ubuntu0sarvatt.diff.gz
[18:48] <Sarvatt> it's there in the local checkout i uploaded..
[18:51] <ricotz> Sarvatt, it isnt in 7.12.0~git20120104.892a2542-0ubuntu0sarvatt
[18:52] <ricotz> Sarvatt, havent built it here, just noticed this change
[18:53] <Sarvatt> ricotz: well its fixed up locally, sorry about that, idr posted a fixed patch to make it build 5 minutes ago so i'll reupload
[18:53] <ricotz> Sarvatt, nice, thanks
[18:53] <ricotz> Sarvatt, remember to push the packaging changes ;)
[18:54] <Sarvatt> yeah yeah
[18:54] <Sarvatt> i dont have any packaging changes thats why i didnt push
[18:54] <ricotz> i had a look at some drivers which failed on 1.12
[18:54] <Sarvatt> doing it by hand
[18:54] <ricotz> Sarvatt, oh, ok
[18:55] <ricotz> and you can add sis and cirrus to your script
[18:55] <Sarvatt> they arent there on purpose, mga too
[18:55] <Sarvatt> but yeah they can be added back in now
[18:55] <ricotz> this mean video-all and input-all working on 1.12 ;)
[18:56] <ricotz> Sarvatt, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable/+packages
[18:56] <Sarvatt> sis cirrus and vmwgfx weren't building against 1.11 at one point
[18:56] <ricotz> they built fine
[18:56] <ricotz> oh, vmwgfx i dont even have there
[18:56] <Sarvatt> cirrus is in there, was just sis missing
[18:56] <ricotz> openchrome got fixed too
[18:57] <ricotz> v4l havent seen any fix
[18:58] <ricotz> ark still used this obsolete/removed symbol
[18:58] <ricotz> xf86MapDomainMemory
[18:59] <tormod> hi guys :)
[18:59] <Sarvatt> heya tormod!!
[19:00] <Sarvatt> ricotz: yay fixed mesa uploaded now, it actually builds
[19:00] <Sarvatt> now to fix those hooks..
[19:00] <ricotz> Sarvatt, good ;), hopefully it works too
[19:01] <ricotz> even gnome-shell wouldnt built :\
[19:02]  * tormod is waiting impatiently for xserver 1.12 :)
[19:03] <ricotz> tormod, you can try it if you want ;)
[19:03] <tormod> ricotz, from your unstable ppa?
[19:03] <ricotz> yes
[19:03] <ricotz> i am running it on intel
[19:03] <Sarvatt> tormod: that'll be in next week for sure, gonna be locked away in a room in budapest doing it :P
[19:04] <tormod> it doesn't need updated evdev?
[19:04] <Sarvatt> if ricotz doesn't want to upload it sooner
[19:04] <ricotz> tormod, only synaptics making some velocity problems
[19:04] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i guess not ;)
[19:05] <Sarvatt> ricotz: we could just copy it out of your ppa..? :P
[19:05] <ricotz> tormod, you might want to wait for a working mesa :P
[19:05] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hmm, no, the driver versions are the same
[19:06] <Sarvatt> copy the server, i'll reupload all drivers
[19:06] <ricotz> i was copying them from edgers everytime
[19:06] <Sarvatt> i meant
[19:06] <ricotz> yeah, these packages would work
[19:06] <ricotz> and the input stuff
[19:08] <ricotz> Sarvatt, could upload a vmwgfx package?
[19:08] <Sarvatt> sorry I meant video-vmware
[19:09] <ricotz> oh, ok
[19:09] <ricotz> i guess this isnt even a driver
[19:10] <ricotz> Sarvatt, so there is no important driver missing then?
[19:10] <Sarvatt> nvidia/fglrx
[19:10] <Sarvatt> nope
[19:11] <Sarvatt> it will suck not having xf86-input-mtrack but might be able to fix that up
[19:11] <ricotz> openchrome should be update in ubuntu since there were 130 commits
[19:11] <Sarvatt> yep that just needs some cut and paste love
[19:12] <Sarvatt> ricotz: talk to the debian maintainer of the driver, i think bryce got crap for sponsoring an update of it for me in ubuntu a few years ago when i was thinking the same thing..
[19:13] <ricotz> hehe ;)
[19:15] <jcristau> eww via.
[19:17] <ricotz> jcristau, i guess you are not the maintainer then :P
[19:17] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: we're doing 1.11, not 1.12 :)
[19:18] <jcristau> ricotz: there isn't really a maintainer
[19:18] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: yeah but edgers wont even take a day and is mostly automated, doubt the 1.11 will take more than 4 :)
[19:19] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: ah you meant both
[19:27] <Sarvatt> bryceh_: did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~smspillaz/unity/unity.fix_864784_868120_872625v2 ?
[19:32] <Sarvatt> http://goo.gl/1e86V indeed
[19:32] <tjaalton> haha
[19:34] <bryceh_> Sarvatt, sweet!
[19:34] <bryceh_> working on http://www.bryceharrington.org/Arsenal/ubuntu-x-swat/Reports/blueprint-desktop-p-multi-monitor.html
[19:34] <bryceh_> so I can keep track of all the mm bugs better
[19:35] <Sarvatt> oh https://code.launchpad.net/~smspillaz/unity/unity.oem-fixes is the real branch and it was approved \o/
[19:35] <Prf_Jakob> Sarvatt: hey
[19:36] <Sarvatt> hiya!
[19:36] <bryceh_> "oem-fixes"? huh
[19:38] <Sarvatt> that was a high priority oem bug, blocking release on all kinds of new machines since display switch hotkeys weren't working properly on any system
[19:38] <ricotz> http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2011-December/028091.html -- will this still make it into 1.12 somehow?
[19:40] <jcristau> maybe
[19:42] <ricotz> ok
[19:42] <tjaalton> more stuff to backport then, if we hope to have full opengl-3.0 support for precise?
[19:43] <ricotz> tjaalton, was this actually targeted?
[19:43] <tjaalton> ricotz: we'll have mesa 8.0
[19:43] <jcristau> you'll have gl3 on nvidia and fglrx *hides*
[19:43] <tjaalton> heh, true
[19:43] <tjaalton> 4.x even
[19:44] <ricotz> 4.2 ;)
[19:44] <jcristau> wonder what's the point of not shipping 1.12 if you backport 80% of it though
[19:44] <jcristau> anyway...
[19:44] <tjaalton> beginning to feel the same way :)
[19:44] <jcristau> maybe input+glx doesn't quite make 80%
[19:44] <ricotz> nvidia/fglrx are the reasons
[19:45] <ricotz> and it will probably be released/finished quite late
[19:55] <bryceh_> 12.04.2 will have the newer X stack
[19:56] <bryceh_> can afford to be conservative with the 12.04.0 stack
[19:57] <ricotz> bryceh_, right ;)
[19:57] <bryceh_> well, more conservative than we'd otherwise need to be
[20:05] <Sarvatt> frankenserver is still going to need to be supported though, thats not gonna be fun
[20:08]  * bryceh_ nods
[20:09] <bryceh_> hey word from archive folks is a preference for making the 12.04.0 images more easily downloadable, so no boot mangling work needed
[20:35] <Sarvatt> LetoThe2nd: mesa's fixed, safe to update to 7.12.0~git20120104.892a2542-0ubuntu0sarvatt2
[21:00] <bryceh_> here's where the old point releases are kept - http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/
[21:11] <tormod> bryce, are the sources (for e.g. Intrepid) available somewhere?
[21:13] <jcristau> i assume http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ has everything
[21:15] <tormod> jcristau, thanks, yes, looks like it
[21:17] <tormod> got a request for xorg-edgers packages for Intrepid today :) Some exotic hw that only runs Intrepid but with a xserver 1.5.2 bug. At least he can find the sources there and patch it.
[21:18] <jcristau> sounds fun.
[21:32] <bryceh_> tormod, also fairly sure you should be able to get the old versions off launchpad too, with sufficient clicking around
[21:32] <tormod> from the ppa?
[21:36] <bryceh_> tormod, no; from e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+publishinghistory
[21:36] <bryceh_> go to the source package page in launchpad, click 'View full publishing history' then pick out whatever version you want
[21:37] <bryceh_> should be able to get pretty much any source and binary .deb's you need
[21:41] <tormod> bryceh_, thanks, yes that works, binaries for those still "published", source even for those "superseded"
[21:58] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[22:57] <broder> is it possible to get 3d acceleration working inside vmware vms with precise right now? do i need edgers or something?
[23:27] <RAOF> broder: I believe you need edgers.  I'm also not sure that precise kernels build the vmware kernel module needed.
[23:35] <broder> hmm, i'll experiment. looks like vmhgfs (host-guest file system) and vmxnet (paravirtualized network driver) don't build on 3.2, but everything else seems good
[23:36] <tjaalton> is the drm driver yet out of staging
[23:36] <RAOF> I *think* it's out of staging?
[23:36] <RAOF> That should mean that it's enabled.
[23:36] <tjaalton> maybe i'm confusing it with another driver..
[23:37] <tjaalton> yeah so it should be.. I'll check
[23:37] <tjaalton> CONFIG_DRM_VMWGFX=m
[23:37] <tjaalton> yep
[23:37] <RAOF> modinfo vmwgfx says hi!
[23:38] <broder> hmm, didn't get loaded, though
[23:39] <broder> and unity-2d doesn't seem to launch
[23:39] <RAOF> On edgers?
[23:39] <broder> yeah. not sure why yet
[23:40] <tjaalton> needs multitouch
[23:40] <broder> :-/
[23:41] <RAOF> At least unity3D should soon work :)
[23:41] <broder> well, i need to convince mesa to not use software rendering before that's useful on my vm
[23:53] <Prf_Jakob> broder: I/We will be interested in hearing about any bugs you run it.
[23:53] <Prf_Jakob> RAOF: what are you currently packaging of mesa/video-vmware?
[23:54] <tjaalton> -vmware <IP_ADDRESS>1, mesa 7.11
[23:54] <broder> Prf_Jakob: what am i supposed to have to do to activate the vmwgfx?
[23:54] <RAOF> Prf_Jakob: In precise, currently nothing; we've got 7.11, and (a) I seem to recall you saying not to bother with that, and (b) the kernel module wasn't available until recently.
[23:54] <Prf_Jakob> Ok, mesa 7.11 wont work with kernel driver.
[23:54] <Prf_Jakob> broder: mesa git
[23:55] <Prf_Jakob> broder: tho glxgears seems to have broken over xmas, so I'm looking into that over right now.
[23:55] <RAOF> That'll be one of the things we'll enable when switching to the 7.12/8.0 branch.
[23:55] <broder> Prf_Jakob: xorg-edgers looks like it has a snapshot of 892a2542 - should that be new enough?
[23:55] <tjaalton> I see the drm driver was enabled already on oneiric
[23:57] <tjaalton> but doesn't matter since it needed newer mesa


[02:52] <lvmc_> Hello.
[02:53] <lvmc_> I'm looking for any documentation explaining how to port Ubuntu ARM for new platforms like MK808b Plus or Measy U4C.
[02:53] <lvmc_> Based on rk3188 or amlogic processors.