[07:12] <Olde> www.easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu       has a great amout of good info
[07:12] <tuxtheslacker> what do the red buttons mean on alsamixergui?
[07:12] <noiesmo> yes
[07:12] <Bung> which gstreamer do i select in synaptec?
[07:12] <k00zk0> biovore: i have nothing in my /usr/src dir
[07:12] <zbyte> biovore how do I install the 686smp kernel
[07:12] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, that means device active on
[07:12] <biovore> zbyte: I think its apt-get install kernel-image-686-smp
[07:12] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, is it usb mic or normal
[07:13] <biovore> k00zk0: patch -p1 < filename.patch ?
[07:13] <Olde> bbl
[07:13] <zbyte> i'm new to all this..but let me try..
[07:13] <zawa> can someone tell me why my xmms is not playing mpg files?
[07:13] <k00zk0> should i just cd to the dir that the patch is in and run that command?
[07:13] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, I didn't have it pushed in the whole way. bahahahah!
[07:13] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, haha
[07:13] <tuxtheslacker> O
[07:13] <tuxtheslacker> I'm an idiot :-)
[07:13] <k00zk0> 0
[07:14] <biovore> k00zk0: you copy the patch file there aswell
[07:14] <k00zk0> to where
[07:14] <zbyte> biovore I use the add application tool?
[07:14] <k00zk0> that folder is empty...
[07:14] <biovore> the top of the kernel tree
[07:14] <noiesmo> !mpg
[07:14] <ubotu> noiesmo: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:14] <zawa> !mpg
[07:14] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, how much is that webcam?
[07:14] <k00zk0> biovore i dont know what you mena by that
[07:14] <biovore> zbyte: yeah.. look for something like linux-image or kernel-image for 686-smp
[07:14] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, in aussie about 40$ -50$
[07:15] <biovore> k00zk0: ok..  let say you extracted your kernel source to /usr/src
[07:15] <mrproper> How do I add a directory to my includes path?
[07:15] <noiesmo> zawa, you will need to add universe and multiverse to your repo's
[07:15] <k00zk0> biovore i dont know i just installed ubuntu 6.06
[07:15] <biovore> k00zk0: you would copy your patch to /usr/src and the cd to the directory and run patch -p1 < patch_file
[07:15] <k00zk0> okay
[07:15] <k00zk0> but /usr/src is empty...is that normal
[07:16] <biovore> k00zk0: you at the level where your have to rebuild the kernel to do a patch on the kernel source
[07:16] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, how about in the states :-P
[07:16] <zbyte> biovore searching..
[07:16] <biovore> k00zk0: you don't have the kernel source..
[07:16] <joshdoe> its finally running
[07:16] <joshdoe> pretty nice
[07:16] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, I live in australia man I dont know sorry dude
[07:16] <_daedalus> hmm... easyubuntu made a lot of errors but am rebooting now... hope this works.
[07:16] <k00zk0> ..fuck..
[07:16] <biovore> k00zk0: you might want to read up on building a kernel.. since you seem kinda new to all this.
[07:16] <k00zk0> see thats hwy i asked.
[07:16] <_daedalus> brb
[07:17] <k00zk0> i thought it would be possible to apply the fekkin patch with it already installed..
[07:17] <biovore> zbyte: linux-image-686-smp  thats the package
[07:17] <tuxtheslacker> noiesmo, it's all good :-)
[07:17] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, np :)
[07:17] <jhenn> You people probably know how ubuntu has the Main repository and the Restricted copyrights repo.  on install.  Say I didn't want ANYTHING from restricted copyright and something from it is installed during the install, if you uncheck the restricted copyrights box, and do apt-get update, will it remove all those nasty non-free programs from your system?
[07:18] <zbyte> biovore ok, searching again...
[07:18] <tuxtheslacker> hrm, I think I have an old cam downstairs, I have to see if it works :-P
[07:18] <Nutterpc> damn net connection
[07:18] <Nutterpc> lol
[07:18] <NickGarvey> jhenn: no, they will stay
[07:18] <jhenn> NickGarvey: How will you get them off?
[07:18] <NickGarvey> jhenn: I believe using synaptic you might be able to show everything installed from the restictred repository
[07:18] <tuxtheslacker> what are some good windows and linux programs that will support video?
[07:18] <NickGarvey> and just select all for deletion
[07:18] <NickGarvey> and then delete the restricted repository and update
[07:19] <noiesmo> tuxtheslacker, if its usb do lsusb once you've plugged it in see if its listed then do lsmod see if V4L is there
[07:19] <tuxtheslacker> I need ot know, because I need to talk to my gf with this webcam, and she's a windows user.
[07:19] <k00zk0> another problem
[07:19] <jhenn> NickGarvey: oh really can you confirm that for me?
[07:19] <k00zk0> why cant i make in ubuntu
[07:19] <k00zk0> ?
[07:19] <Nutterpc> I wonder how badly the global mirrors for ubuntu will get hammered once dapper gets released, lol
[07:19] <k00zk0> i got the make program and gcc
[07:19] <zbyte> question..can ubuntu be infected with viruses/spyware like windows?
[07:19] <noiesmo> zbyte, no
[07:19] <biovore> k00zk0: you don't have the development tools installed
[07:19] <wsjunior> how should i compile libdvdcss?
[07:19] <k00zk0> zbyte of course it can, but its hard to get something unless you let it on
[07:19] <Schalken> there are other things you need, k00kzk0
[07:19] <biovore> k00zk0: apt-get install build-essential
[07:20] <NickGarvey> jhenn: nope, not in ubuntu rigt now
[07:20] <tuxtheslacker> zbyte, in theory yes, in practice, no.
[07:20] <zbyte> biovore i searched for both, says no results found
[07:20] <satlan32> hi guys
[07:20] <NickGarvey> jhenn: sorry about that
[07:20] <wsjunior> i'm installing it without any param but totem and mplayer cant recognize it installed..
[07:20] <biovore> zbyte: pop open a terminal and type the following..  sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp
[07:21] <joshdoe> Ok how does  anoob install a network driver?
[07:21] <biovore> zbyte: also.. have you updated your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:21] <zbyte> biovore How do I update my etc/etc list?
[07:21] <biovore> zbyte: edit the text file at /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <zbyte> does ubuntu have a update feature?
[07:22] <Trashcan> is there a package containing some more manpages for c++ functions?
[07:22] <biovore> !sources.list
[07:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:22] <Trashcan> yes zbyte
[07:22] <Fassa> ok ive got breezy badger to boot from usb drive but all it gives is a ubuntu light? shell how would i copy what i have on the usb HD to the HD on the pc im booted into?
[07:22] <biovore> Trashcan: see glibc on google
[07:22] <Trashcan> hehe, i was hoping you wouldn't say that
[07:22] <Trashcan> lynx is a bitch :p
[07:23] <joshdoe> Ok how does a noob install a network driver?
[07:23] <biovore> yeah.. figuring out what headers there are is kinda differnt.. but all the ansi stuff is there still
[07:23] <mrproper> How can I get nspr.h to be detected by a makefile which is searching for it?
[07:23] <zbyte> Trashcan.. where can find the update feature?
[07:23] <biovore> joshdoe: network "dirver" for what?
[07:23] <joshdoe> my network card was not recognized
[07:24] <Trashcan> just looking for quick glances at socket functions, threading, etc
[07:24] <biovore> mrproper: put it in the correct path your make file is looking for it at
[07:24] <Trashcan> without going through lynx
[07:24] <mrproper> biovore, path variable or dir?
[07:24] <biovore> Trashcan: look at perl or python
[07:24] <mrproper> biovore, Because for whatever reason, Dabber is installing it into /usr/include/firefox/nspr
[07:24] <Trashcan> lol biovore
[07:24] <biovore> mrproper: you have to look the makefile
[07:25] <mrproper> biovore, What should I look for?
[07:25] <biovore> mrproper: you know what .c or .cpp file looks for that header?
[07:25] <biovore> mrproper: look for that file in the makefile
[07:25] <zbyte> biovore i did the terminal command...says couldnt find file package ..u mentioned I should update my etc list? whats the simple way
[07:25] <joshdoe> Ok how does a noob install a network driver?
[07:25] <Trashcan> carefully
[07:26] <biovore> zbyte: did you see the wiki about /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:26] <Fassa> ok ive got breezy badger to boot from usb drive but all it gives is a ubuntu light? shell how would i copy what i have on the usb HD to the HD on the pc im booted into?
[07:26] <[Yatta] > yooo hooooo... evening ppl
[07:26] <jonathan_> hey guys, is there a gui for proftpd?
[07:26] <zbyte> biovore no, link me
[07:26] <biovore> joshdoe: what nic?
[07:26] <Trashcan> !sources.list
[07:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:26] <biovore> zbyte: see ubotu
[07:26] <joshdoe> onboard intel pro 10/1000
[07:26] <zbyte> !obotu
[07:26] <ubotu> zbyte: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:26] <biovore> joshdoe: wasn't reconized at bot?
[07:26] <joshdoe> no
[07:27] <biovore> (boot)
[07:27] <Trashcan> zbyte: i just linked you...
[07:27] <biovore> the modules is called e1000 for the 1GB intel nic
[07:27] <joshdoe> it said it couldn't find the network
[07:27] <biovore> joshdoe: sudo modprobe e1000
[07:27] <zbyte> !obotu update etc
[07:27] <ubotu> zbyte: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:27] <zbyte> oh ok trashcan
[07:28] <joshdoe> what does that mean?
[07:28] <[Yatta] > is there anyway i can see the stuff that is being loaed on bootup.. like in the order they are loaded??
[07:28] <[Yatta] > i hope that made sense
[07:28] <joshdoe> goodnight
[07:28] <biovore> joshdoe: that loads the e1000 module into the kernel
[07:29] <biovore> [Yatta] : yes..  change the splash to verbose in the grub bootloader.. gets rid of the graphics at boot
[07:29] <mrproper> Fixed thanks
[07:29] <noiesmo> [Yatta] , dmesg or check /var/log/syslog & /var/log/messages
[07:30] <elkbuntu> is there a factoid for getting multi-card readers working?
[07:30] <zbyte> !easysource
[07:30] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:30] <biovore> elkbuntu: usb ones?
[07:30] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:30] <Fassa> ok ive got breezy badger to boot from usb drive but all it gives is a ubuntu light? shell how would i copy what i have on the usb HD to the HD on the pc im booted into?
[07:30] <squiggly> don't think you can
[07:30] <biovore> elkbuntu: should just work.. just like a usb memory stick
[07:31] <elkbuntu> i'll try...
[07:31] <bubba> I have a display issue, and im really unsure if it can even be fixed... Im using a lcd tv for a monitor, and i get much higher resolution using the pc (vga) connector than the hdmi/dvi connector.
[07:31] <[Yatta] > biovore, that i know of... what i want to do is setserial to none
[07:31] <squiggly> hm, i have an idea - is it possible to piggyback a webbrowser onto a thumbdrive, and surf with that?
[07:31] <squiggly> not sure if its actually safe or anything, though
[07:31] <elkbuntu> biovore it's not showing any sign of power
[07:31] <[Yatta] > the kernel is using it and i want it to stop
[07:32] <biovore> [Yatta] : ?
[07:32] <[Yatta] > i want to /setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
[07:32] <SH-ubuntu> anyone here who can help a newbie :)? i am trying to increase my hz from 60 to 85 and now i am in the terminal but i dont know how to save my changes in the xorg.conf. in a tutorial they say "press enter" but then i just get a new line
[07:32] <biovore> your kernel spitting out stuff on the serial port?
[07:33] <biovore> [Yatta] : tring to use the serial port for pin twittling?
[07:33] <[Yatta] > lirc_serial: port 03f8 already in use ....
[07:33] <[Yatta] > the kernel is using COM1 ...
[07:34] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, are you using vi or nano
[07:34] <bubba> SH-ubuntu, in your terminal, you are using a text editor right? (pico?  nano?), in pico ctrl-x will exit
[07:34] <[Yatta] >  i want to issue setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none  soo that lirc_serial can ue the port
[07:34] <zbyte> ok..i got automatically generated sources list via the link..what do I do with them
[07:34] <biovore> [Yatta] : intressting.. stock kernel isn't suppose to..
[07:34] <SH-ubuntu> i just did what the tutorial told me one moment i will look it up
[07:34] <biovore> [Yatta] : check lsof | grep /dev/ttyS0 so see what is locking the serial port
[07:35] <bubba> so.... im confused about dvi/hdmi being lower resolution than vga.
[07:35] <SH-ubuntu> sudo vi xorg.conf << this was the command and then i erased one line (load "dri") and changed vert refresh from 60 to 85
[07:35] <SH-ubuntu> i am totally new to ubuntu, or linux in general
[07:35] <biovore> bubba: dvi is higher res then vga
[07:36] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, for vi you press esc then shift : then wq easiler to do nano then its ctrl+x
[07:36] <zbyte> is there a clickable app to update ubuntu?
[07:36] <biovore> theres an update manager
[07:36] <SH-ubuntu> so if i press esc then shift my changes in this file are saved?
[07:36] <bubba> biovore, I have a tv w/hdmi connected to a dvi cable to a dvi connector on my video card, and it sucks compared to the vga.
[07:36] <zbyte> !obotu update manager
[07:36] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zbyte
[07:36] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, you need to push : key and wq to write and quit
[07:36] <bubba> biovore, it says its 1080i (doesnt show resolution)
[07:37] <zbyte> !obotu update.manager
[07:37] <ubotu> zbyte: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:37] <biovore> bubba: timming probably not correct
[07:37] <[Yatta] > lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev  ????
[07:37] <zbyte> !obotu update
[07:37] <ubotu> zbyte: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:37] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, do sudo nano /path/to/file then youy can save with ctrl+x
[07:37] <biovore> 1080i is interlaced 1080 lines
[07:37] <Madpilot> !update
[07:37] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Madpilot
[07:37] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[07:37] <ubotu> hmm... upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[07:37] <[Yatta] > biovore, when i look in dmesg ....
[07:37] <SH-ubuntu> thx thats much to understand but i will try
[07:38] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, nano is a much easier edit to use
[07:38] <[Yatta] > ...... [4294670.575000]  serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[07:38] <[Yatta] >      ----> This is waht i want to stop from happening
[07:38] <SH-ubuntu> i dont know anything :) whats "wq"? the two letters or something special?
[07:38] <biovore> [Yatta] : that just the kernel saying you have a serial port..
[07:38] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, wq stands for write file and quit
[07:39] <SH-ubuntu> ah ok
[07:39] <biovore> it gives you the /dev/ttyS0
[07:39] <zbyte> gksudo "update-manager -d" says my system is uptodate
[07:39] <bubba> biovore, I ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org with it on the hdmi, and it came up with 2 resolutions (640x640, and 720x480)
[07:39] <biovore> [Yatta] : that dosn't lock it.. that creates the /dev device
[07:39] <biovore> bubba: 720x480 is the native resoultion of HDTV
[07:40] <bubba> biovore, but with the vga cable, i can do 1280x1024
[07:40] <SH-ubuntu> hmm if i press esc then shift i get a "beep" sound :(
[07:40] <biovore> its also the resultion of DVD's
[07:40] <biovore> bubba: your not actualy doing 1280x1024.. the TV under samples it.
[07:40] <[Yatta] > some thing locks it though... accoring to soem doc i've read... and look at this
[07:40] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, ok push esc then shift + : key
[07:41] <[Yatta] >  lirc_serial: port 03f8 already in use ---------> lirc_serial: use 'setserial /dev/ttySX uart none' ---->lirc_serial: or compile the serial port driver as module and
[07:41] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu,  check this http://math.la.asu.edu/vi_tutorial/vi7.html
[07:41] <[Yatta] > lirc_serial: make sure this module is loaded first
[07:41] <bubba> biovore, yeah, but it does do 1024x768 perfectly, and says its 1366x768 lcd
[07:41] <zbyte> someone help  me updating list so i can get linux-image-686-smp
[07:41] <hyphenated> SH-ubuntu: you're probably better off searching google for a vi users guide or something. it's not really suitable for newbies
[07:41] <SH-ubuntu> ah thx now it is done
[07:41] <biovore> hmm hdmi might be the limiting factor
[07:41] <bubba> biovore, so... im confused, i thought it would look better on the hdmi/dvi cable...
[07:42] <SH-ubuntu> i just searched for a german tutorial how explains it easy the graphic driver are installed, no big deal
[07:42] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, use nano instead of vi
[07:42] <SH-ubuntu> but hx for the info
[07:42] <noiesmo> np
[07:42] <biovore> [Yatta] : it says you need the serial port kernel modules right?
[07:42] <zbyte> where do i input the items generated by sourceOmatic
[07:42] <biovore> [Yatta] : and it needs to be loaded?
[07:42] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, any tutorial you follow just replace vi with nano then at bottom of screen it tells you how to save exit etc
[07:42] <bubba> biovore, unless theres some setting i can change ?? im guessing vga is better quality that hdmi.
[07:42] <SH-ubuntu> ah great thx
[07:42] <[Yatta] > but it's trying to load....
[07:43] <[Yatta] > i have a small script tha i have to load.. then it;ll work..
[07:43] <biovore> bubba: well the main problem is DVI -> HDMI
[07:43] <SH-ubuntu> the changes took effect in the xorg.conf but i still can't change from 60hz to any other rate
[07:43] <[Yatta] > BUT i want to have it run from bootup
[07:43] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, you need to restart X
[07:43] <bubba> from what ive read, hdmi is exactly the same as dvi but it adds audio.
[07:43] <biovore> [Yatta] : that script do that setserial thing?
[07:43] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, this can be done by pushing ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:43] <SH-ubuntu> ah how can i do this? i see i have to learn much more to start such things with linux
[07:44] <SH-ubuntu> hehe thx
[07:44] <[Yatta] > the scripte basiucally says .... setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none  then > depmod -ae --> modprobe lirc_serial
[07:44] <SH-ubuntu> answer before question
[07:44] <SH-ubuntu> i try
[07:44] <biovore> [Yatta] : ok cool.. we can add that script to the boot sequence
[07:44] <noiesmo> hope his settings were ok or he'll have no X
[07:44] <biovore> [Yatta] : just copy that script to /etc/init.d/
[07:45] <[Yatta] > i;ve tried that the thing is.... it works sometimes then others it don't??
[07:45] <bubba> biovore, so I could get a dvi-vga adapter, but would that be any better than just using the vga cable?
[07:45] <top222> Hello
[07:45] <biovore> and make a symlink to it from /etc/rc2.d/ as S50setserial
[07:45] <[Yatta] > i made a scrpt called homebreww
[07:45] <top222> Is there a canonical (no pun intended) way to install Firefox 1.5 into Ubuntu 5.10 ?
[07:46] <[Yatta] > ohhh S50 .. i had it set to S99homebrew
[07:46] <biovore> bubba: well vga is analog..  dvi is high speed digital
[07:46] <Hobbsee> !tell top222 about firefox1.5
[07:46] <SH-ubuntu> x restartet but the only thing changed was a new option of resolution, no "hz" change...
[07:46] <bubba> biovore, yeah, but they are both going into the same vga port on the tv...
[07:47] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, your hz is dependant on the resolution depending on the driver used for video
[07:47] <family> msg family
[07:47] <zbyte> is there a way i can manually download linux-image-686-smp
[07:47] <SH-ubuntu> i installed the new drivers from nivida
[07:47] <biovore> bubba: yeah.. the dvi to vga adaptors don't actualy convert anything.. they just short 2 pin on the dvi adaptor so the graphic card know to spit out analog not digital
[07:47] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, on my nvidia system I can have 1260xblah at 60hz and then 1152x Blah at 75Hz it also depends on monitor
[07:47] <SH-ubuntu> and my monitor is a crt that can show more then 60hz on 1024*768
[07:48] <[Yatta] > biovore, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/homebrew /etc/rcS.d/S99homebrew
[07:48] <[Yatta] > is what i did
[07:48] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, here;s link to my config I have nvidia 660gt and benq 17: monitor
[07:48] <biovore> [Yatta] : well probably want before 99 like 90 or something
[07:48] <SH-ubuntu> well on windows he can, but i think the hz border should be the same
[07:48] <biovore> 99 you set your self up for a race condition with x server
[07:48] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060513134702855
[07:48] <zbyte> i need to find this package linux-image-686-smp, please help
[07:49] <zbyte> !obotu linux-image-686-smp
[07:49] <[Yatta] > if i want to remove it just rm  /etc/rcS.d/S99homebrew   ???
[07:49] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zbyte
[07:49] <bubba> biovore, so, does this mean the monitor would or would not get a better signal from the dvi?
[07:49] <tritium> zbyte: get it on packages.ubuntu.com, then
[07:49] <noiesmo> SH-ubuntu, check the monito section its what i did to increase hz
[07:49] <zbyte> tritium thanks, I try that
[07:49] <biovore> bubba: can't tell you giving the current infomation on the problem
[07:49] <SH-ubuntu> ok thx
[07:50] <julian> anyone know how to enable 3d acceleration for radeon x300
[07:50] <biovore> !ati
[07:50] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:50] <bubba> biovore, ok... i guess im just frustrated... I just spent about $150 on a new video card and cables, and it looks worse with the new cable...
[07:50] <[Yatta] > biovore, the thing that is gettign me is that it works SOMETIMES... u see if it never worked i could live with that and just keep trying something else
[07:51] <julian> thanks, im gona chek it out
[07:51] <bubba> biovore, and exactly the same on just the vga... I can return $150 worth of stuff, and have just as good setup...
[07:51] <biovore> [Yatta] : see whats taking up the device using lsof
[07:52] <biovore> bubba: yeah its card independed
[07:52] <biovore> (dependent I mean)
[07:52] <bubba> biovore, sadly, i got a tv with hdmi and no dvi connector...
[07:52] <zbyte> tritium ok I found the package..and downloaded, how can I install it
[07:52] <[Yatta] > biovore, i should do that right after i boot
[07:52] <[Yatta] > ?
[07:53] <bubba> biovore, I was under the impression that hdmi was as good/better than dvi.
[07:53] <biovore> yeah.. there all like that.. hdmi is simular to dvi but not quite the same..  the reason is the mpaa licenses HDMI and the video card manufacture association dose DVI because they don't want to pay the royalties to mpaa
[07:53] <zbyte> how can I install this file: linux-image-686-smp_<IP_ADDRESS>.1_i386.deb
[07:53] <SH-ubuntu> whats the command in nano to save? i forgot it sry
[07:53] <biovore> zbyte: dpkg -i <file.deb>
[07:53] <tritium> zbyte: sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[07:54] <k00zk0> biovore
[07:54] <k00zk0> can i pm you?
[07:54] <noiesmo> ctrl+x
[07:54] <SH-ubuntu> ah thx
[07:54] <biovore> sure
[07:54] <bubba> biovore, heh... why should anyone ever pay the mpaa?
[07:55] <biovore> anyway bed time here..
[07:55] <bubba> biovore, now im wishing i could return the tv and get one with dvi :(
[07:56] <Ademan> can you get the music player applet through apt-get ? i can't find it... but i can find the rhythmbox applet...
[07:56] <biovore> bubba: yeah.. Its still kinda not very well defined standard from what I can gather
[07:56] <zbyte> whats a quick way to find out what version of ubuntu i'm running
[07:56] <crimsun> lsb_release -r
[07:56] <Hobbsee> cat /etc/issue
[07:56] <biovore> Ademan: xmms aramok are good ones
[07:56] <k00zk0> biovore pm...
[07:56] <[Yatta] > biovore, I'll give that a try .... thanks for the help.
[07:57] <DeadlyTiga> now i crashed the system :)
[07:57] <Ademan> biovore: no the APPLET's sorry i shoulda been more specific, the GNOME APPLETs, like that go in the panels
[07:58] <bubba> biovore, thanks for the info, i guess i'll stop wasting my time trying to get this stupid thing to work the way i want it to... since it likely wont!
[07:58] <Ademan> and actually, i'm not too big of a fan of xmms personally
[07:58] <Z10N0101> Hello!
[07:58] <biovore> I don't use gnome.. so I don't know
[07:58] <Zambezi> Dammit. FF crasched and I had 10 windows opened. :-(
[07:58] <Z10N0101> I have a Question about the File manager of Gnome
[07:58] <ubuntu> hello
[07:58] <rixxon> nice nickname :P
[07:58] <k00zk0> nice nick
[07:58] <Ademan> ff 1.0.8 or whatever isnt too hot
[07:58] <k00zk0> hehe
[07:58] <k00zk0> biovore pm!!
[07:59] <biovore> k00zk0: I did
[07:59] <Zambezi> I have <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:59] <DeadlyTiga> first time using linux and i crashed it in one hour :(
[07:59] <Z10N0101> why when I click any dir in the file manager, it opens another one ???
[07:59] <zbyte> ubuntu 5.10 is the 'breezy' edition?
[07:59] <Zambezi> And now I pissed cause I can't copy all the messages so I can find the messages I sent earlier.
[08:00] <onkarshinde> what tool I can use to search for available wireless networks?
[08:00] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: That filemanager is bad.
[08:00] <DeadlyTiga> great
[08:00] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Theres anotherone which is better.
[08:00] <Z10N0101> Zambezi, Douppp, It about configuration buddy. I Suck with gnome, But is GREAT!
[08:00] <DeadlyTiga> 85hz thx to the guy(s) who helped me :)
[08:01] <k00zk0> 85hz?
[08:01] <biovore> monitor refersh rate
[08:01] <k00zk0> ah
[08:01] <k00zk0> :P
[08:01] <onkarshinde> what tool I can use to search for available wireless networks?
[08:02] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Of course, I don't remeber the name but I'm trying.
[08:02] <k00zk0> onkarshinde get kismet
[08:02] <biovore> yeah kismit
[08:02] <DeadlyTiga> k00zk0, i had only 60Hz @ 1024
[08:02] <DeadlyTiga> but now 85 better for my eyes
[08:02] <tritium> onkarshinde: network-manager is a nice gui.  iwconfig <interface> scanning, otherwise
[08:02] <onkarshinde> k00zk0: is it command line tool?
[08:03] <k00zk0> its a little advanced but not too hard to use
[08:03] <k00zk0> yeah onkarshinde
[08:03] <k00zk0> but looks okay
[08:03] <k00zk0> it gets you the info.
[08:03] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: I think it's called Thunar.
[08:03] <DeadlyTiga> why is sh-ubuntu still connected?
[08:03] <k00zk0> BioSnorE
[08:03] <k00zk0> biovore
[08:03] <SH-ubuntu2> confusing
[08:03] <Z10N0101> Thunar ???
[08:03] <Z10N0101> Let me check
[08:03] <jhenn> how do you upgrade from dapper beta to dapper release?
[08:04] <k00zk0> it will upgrade itself using synaptic
[08:04] <k00zk0> when it releases
[08:04] <zbyte> i'm getting farther in my goal..that smp package..relied on another 18mb smp package..searched it..downloaded and its installing
[08:05] <k00zk0> just add all of the repositories except the cd into synaptic and refresh
[08:05] <tritium> jhenn: there will be instructions when it is released
[08:05] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Search on Google. You definetly find something there. Add file manager too. I think it's on sourceforge.
[08:05] <zbyte> once i do the sudo dkpkg command, that means it is installed? no second steps after that?
[08:06] <k00zk0> when you have a deb file yes sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[08:06] <k00zk0> and it will install
[08:06] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: http://thunar.xfce.org/images/filewindow-1.png
[08:06] <k00zk0> assuming all of the required dependencies are installed
[08:06] <onkarshinde> zbyte: what are you trying to install?
[08:07] <Z10N0101> ohh, Thanks Zambezi, I'll Download it!! It seems to be nice
[08:07] <zbyte> ok..i think the smp package installed..is there a way to find out if ubuntu is now using both processors
[08:07] <zbyte> onkarshinde i installed ubuntu on a old dual pentium processor setup.. needed to download smp package to enable both, so I'm told
[08:07] <tritium> zbyte: did you reboot into your newly installed kernel?
[08:08] <Zambezi> Z10N0101: Np. I got the advice when I tried Ubuntu the first time for a couple of month ago. Also check out Conky. It shows CPU and memory uses.
[08:08] <zbyte> tritium no, let me do that, brb
[08:08] <tritium> zbyte: ok
[08:09] <sponix> !beep
[08:09] <ubotu> sponix: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:09] <sponix> anyone have a link to turning off the console beeps ?
[08:09] <Zambezi> I'm going to bed now. Have a good day or night. ;-)
[08:10] <SH-ubuntu2> 8 a.m at my place (germany)
[08:10] <Zambezi> SH-ubuntu: At my place too, that's why I'm going to bed. :-P
[08:11] <stasislove> i have now installed nvidia drivers and can rebot xserver without problems, but when i reboot the computer i get same message as before that nvidia module is of wrong veresion then i must reinstall nvidia drivers inorder to boot can anyone help?
[08:11] <SH-ubuntu2> i am thinking about it, if i should go to bed too
[08:11] <tritium> stasislove: which nvidia drivers did you install?  ubuntu packages?
[08:11] <Zambezi> SH-ubuntu: I need to sleep for a couple of hours. Bye bye! Sleep well.
[08:11] <SH-ubuntu2> hehe gn8
[08:12] <stasislove> tritium, ubuntu packeges did not work at all, so i installed 8756 from nvidia and it works untill i reboot
[08:13] <BioSnorE> stasislove: thats because the ubuntu nvidia shit fucks the tls libgl libs stuff
[08:13] <BioSnorE> stasislove: rm /etc/init.d/nvidia-tls thing
[08:13] <BioSnorE> stasislove: and re do the nvidia driver
[08:14] <tritium> BioSnorE: watch your language
[08:14] <stasislove> BioSnorE, ok thanks man ill try that
[08:14] <Caminomaster> tratar de dormir, slo si despierto para caminar hasta la cama
[08:14] <Caminomaster> y si ese caminar no es un sueo
[08:14] <tritium> stasislove: are you booting into a kernel other than what you built nvidia modules from?
[08:14] <tritium> !es
[08:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:15] <zbyte> tritium i rebooted.. is there a way to see if both cpus being utilized?
[08:15] <stasislove> tritium, no kernel veresion is the same its nvidia module that changes to another after reboot
[08:16] <BioSnorE> hes install nvidia's version of the driver not ubuntus
[08:16] <tritium> zbyte: what does "cat /proc/cpuinfo" tell you?
[08:16] <tritium> I'm aware, BioSnorE.
[08:16] <tritium> stasislove: as I mentioned earlier, ubuntu packages are preferred
[08:17] <zbyte> tritium tells me information about processor chip..from both, processor 0 and processor 1
[08:18] <tritium> zbyte: cool :)
[08:18] <stasislove> tritium, yes but the link you gave says: install nvidia-config (or something) and nvidia-glx, and i cant install both it uninstalls one of them so i can only have eather glx or config and when i proceed anyway with glx it installs but refuses to boot becouse module is missing or something i dont remember now
[08:18] <zbyte> so i'm dualing processing now? 300hmz x2=600mhz   man i'm so cool
[08:19] <tritium> stasislove: the wiki page shouldn't suggest nvidia-config
[08:20] <dli> how to open a root terminal in ubuntu livecd ?
[08:20] <Madpilot> dli, Applications->Accessories->Terminal, then just use sudo
[08:21] <dli> Madpilot, I suppose there's no passwd
[08:21] <Madpilot> "sudo -i" for a 'root' session
[08:21] <Madpilot> dli, not on the LiveCD
[08:21] <zbyte> tritium how can i learn all those small cool commands?
[08:21] <stasislove> tritium, well maybee it wasnt config i dont remember now, but it was something that i can not have at the same time as glx but it did install anyway no problem there but when xconfig file is changed it refused to boot
[08:22] <dli> Madpilot, thanks, I'm recommending ubuntu livecd to friends, but never saw one myself
[08:22] <tritium> zbyte: with time/experience, mostly
[08:22] <tritium> stasislove: what was the error/problem?
[08:22] <zbyte> sudo -i /make #cola drink -send tritium
[08:22] <zbyte> thanks for help
[08:23] <tritium> no problem, zbyte :)
[08:23] <Antipodean> hola folks ;)
[08:23] <Antipodean> sheesh, its quiter in here than when I last popped in!
[08:25] <zbyte> there was a few opinions that viruses/spyware Cant and can enter ubuntu..since its a debating issue, is there any protection applications for ubuntu. like freeware viruscanner?
[08:25] <dli> Madpilot, I will download one dapper livecd to my usb-stick, and have a look myself
[08:26] <zbyte> !obotu virus
[08:26] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zbyte
[08:26] <roryy> zbyte: there are some virus scanners in the repos.  clamav and aegis-virus-scanner are two
[08:26] <stasislove> tritium, it was something with /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy missing
[08:26] <Antipodean> anyhoo... anybody here ever networked their Ubuntu pc to their chipped xbox? I'm just thinking that it'd be good to have it all setup like i did under xp, for to stream avi's etc to my tv... I was hoping yez might offer a cpl of pointers ;)
[08:26] <dli> zbyte, not needed, I still don't know any spyware for firefox
[08:26] <maikol> hey
[08:26] <dli> zbyte, even if it can get in, it can not get root, so, can be easily traced and cleaned
[08:26] <roryy> zbyte: however, as i understand, they are most used for scanning for *windows* viruses on data that passes through the linux machine, e.g., windows shares via samba or mail
[08:27] <Trashcan> yeah
[08:27] <Trashcan> who actually writes virii for linux, anyway
[08:27] <Trashcan> (that are widespread)
[08:27] <zbyte> ok..so ubuntu is immune to virus damage
[08:27] <Trashcan> more or less. the bottom line is, you needn't really worry
[08:27] <Trashcan> if files start disappearing it'll be easy to find
[08:28] <maikol> when im installing ubuntu, the partitioner shows ??? ???, and selecting continue is an endless cycle.
[08:28] <Trashcan> and it can't really *damage* your system, not like you can damage a windows box
[08:28] <roryy> zbyte: It is relatively important to keep up-to-date with security patches using synaptic or aptitude.
[08:29] <roryy> Trashcan: perhaps.  All my *really* important data happens to be in $HOME, where a virus could do damage.  I couldn't care less if /usr was wiped out, since I can recover all my personal data.
[08:29] <bodinux> hello
[08:29] <zbyte> so dont keep personal stuff in HOME?
[08:29] <dli> zbyte, it's virus free, and crash free, and most of time, rebooting free. Just don't think it's windows like
[08:29] <Antipodean> sooo... no tips/sugesstions on networking an ubuntu pc to an xbox?
[08:29] <Trashcan> roryy: my point is, i've found windows machines completely unbootable due to a virus
[08:30] <roryy> zbyte: no, not at all. I'm pointing out that one can't be too smug about viruses not being able to access non-user files
[08:30] <bodinux> hello I have a problem with the 'waiting for root filesystem'. Can anyone help ?
[08:30] <tritium> Antipodean: what is your question, specifically?  Setup your ubuntu machine to exist on the network.  Nothing special about there being an xbox also on the network.
[08:31] <zbyte> yes..i have 11+years on windows platforms..windows machines are sypware infected thingies.. infact 85% percent of my business is removing spyware
[08:31] <zbyte> spyware people should die
[08:31] <Trashcan> tritium: he's trying to stream music/video from his linux PC
[08:31] <Trashcan> like you can do with XBMC
[08:31] <cciRRus> hi...
[08:31] <dli> bodinux, what kind of system?
[08:31] <Antipodean> Trashcan: thats it
[08:31] <tritium> Trashcan: so why's his question about networking?
[08:32] <dli> bodinux, you have to provide specific and accurate info to get help
[08:32] <cciRRus> what are the difference between the packages "linux-386" and "linux-image-2.6....." and "linux-image-386"? Do I need all of them?
[08:32] <Trashcan> because he's trying to network his xbox *to* his pc?
[08:32] <dli> zbyte, hopeless for windows people, many spywares are powered by big companies
[08:32] <Antipodean> tritum: i appologise for my ignorance & noobieness
[08:32] <Antipodean> :P
[08:32] <Trashcan> the real question would be, are there any apps for linux to stream to xbmc
[08:32] <bodinux> dli : my system is a simple computer with two disks. I simply get an 'can't find /dev/hda11'
[08:32] <tritium> cciRRus: dependencies are the difference.  for example, linux-$arch depend on linux-restrited-modules, etc.
[08:32] <cciRRus> hmm ok
[08:33] <Antipodean> Trashcan: thanks for clarifying
[08:33] <dli> bodinux, are you sure it's /dev/hda11 ?
[08:33] <bodinux> dli: I tried the evms_activate stuff but it didn't work
[08:33] <bodinux> dli: Yes I am sure.
[08:33] <cciRRus> coz under Software Updates I was prompted to update quite a few kernel related packages. I wish to save time by updating only those required.
[08:33] <roryy> cciRRus: try 'apt-cache depends linux-386' (and for the others) to see the dependency chain
[08:33] <tritium> Antipodean: are you using a router, or do you want to use a crossover cable?
[08:33] <cciRRus> OH
[08:34] <cciRRus> thanks i'll try
[08:34] <Antipodean> crossover
[08:34] <roryy> cciRRus: there's only 1 really big kernel package; the others are tiny metapackages
[08:34] <cciRRus> i see....
[08:34] <dli> bodinux, boot the livecd, and double check the root partition
[08:34] <roryy> well, two: linux-image-somethinglong and linux-restricted-modules-somethinglong
[08:35] <cciRRus> 1 more question, when i install a package, it requires n other packages. however when i remove that package, apt-get doesnt remove the rest of the n packages. how should i remove the unecessary packages?
[08:35] <zbyte> to setup a box running ubuntu as a fileserver (for windows)..basically run samba..and set share properties on folder
[08:35] <zbyte> ?
[08:35] <bodinux> dli : what do you mean by double ckeck the root partition. I was updating from my working 5.10 and I still can boot using the old kernel.
[08:35] <bodinux> dli : thanks for helping
[08:35] <dli> cciRRus, sudo apt-get install deborphan
[08:35] <rixxon> on ubuntu for my first time \o/
[08:35] <roryy> cciRRus: you can try using deborphan to remove unused packages.  Also, use aptitude in the future instead of apt-get
[08:36] <tritium> cciRRus: aptitude would behave that way
[08:36] <cciRRus> oooooh ok.
[08:36] <dli> bodinux, you build your own kernel?
[08:36] <cciRRus> im very new to apt-get and dpkg
[08:36] <bodinux> no such thing for me !
[08:36] <cciRRus> thanks guys
[08:36] <rixxon> im a windows user who always wanted to be a linux user but never *really* liked any of the linuces i tried. ubuntu is the first linux i really can see myself using every-day
[08:37] <cciRRus> cool
[08:37] <cciRRus> i switched my boxes over from Fedora and Gentoo
[08:37] <cciRRus> to Ubuntu :)
[08:37] <Trashcan> i switched two systems from XP and one from ... "no operating system found"
[08:37] <rixxon> can't say i like windows though, but im so darn used to it
[08:38] <rixxon> its not easy to just switch to another os
[08:38] <maikol> so, does anyone know why the installer's partitioner isnt working? shows only question marks and 'continues' endlessly
[08:38] <Trashcan> yeah rixxon, its hard leaving the comfort zone of the apps that you know
[08:39] <Trashcan> nice thing about ubuntu is it takes about a half hour to find free replacements to everything you used before, right from the "add programs"
[08:39] <rixxon> ubuntu seems to actually manage being a user-friendly linux without being a windows-linux hybrid :P
[08:39] <stasislove> i have security policy missing for xserver /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy i cant even logout and thats why i cant install drivers
[08:39] <Antipodean> I've found most of the adjustment pretty easy - its just the terminal that takes getting used to
[08:39] <cciRRus> anyone here uses tightVNC on your ubuntu?
[08:39] <bodinux> dli : Are you still there ?
[08:40] <rixxon> although main reason why i disliked all linuces i tried is they are so ugly, they all used kde
[08:40] <rixxon> ubuntu is really pretty
[08:40] <Trashcan> hehe
[08:40] <cciRRus> kde can be quite nice looking
[08:40] <rixxon> maybe, i haven't seen it though :P
[08:40] <rixxon> but its not just gnome i like about ubuntu
[08:41] <dli> bodinux, sorry, I can not help
[08:41] <cciRRus> KDE>> http://www.lynucs.org/?kde
[08:41] <ryle> does anyone know how to change my display to 96 dpi? i tried this 5.04 howto and it just destroyed x server
[08:41] <Trashcan> my favorite feature about ubuntu is that every question i've asked so far is either a) answered in the faq or b) answered in the wiki
[08:41] <eobanb> Trashcan, heh
[08:42] <bodinux> thanks for trying, I thought that this bug was solved before they went to a release 'that every user' could install....
[08:42] <F0LL0W3R> ryle system > prefrences> fonts > Details
[08:42] <julian> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[08:43] <julian> ???
[08:43] <Trashcan> shouldn't build-essential get the right nix headers
[08:43] <dli> bodinux, no, your own mistake, I can not help, because you are not locating the problem
[08:43] <roryy> Trashcan: not linux headers; std C lib
[08:44] <Trashcan> doh
[08:44] <Schalken> what packages contains the x headers and libraries?
[08:44] <roryy> Schalken: x-window-system-dev
[08:44] <Schalken> roryy, thnx
[08:45] <tritium> Schalken: xlibs-dev
[08:45] <julian> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 how do i fix this. im trying to install ati driver
[08:45] <dli> Schalken, better do " apt-get build-dep "
[08:45] <crimsun> x-dev, probably seeing how we've retired support for warty
[08:46] <tritium> julian: have you tried the ati packages?
[08:46] <crimsun> otherwise libx11-dev + $otherModularDevPackages
[08:46] <mr_hus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14755
[08:46] <mr_hus> anybody knows what this is all about?
[08:46] <rixxon> can someone please tell me how the hell i managed to keep my interest in computers when using windows?!
[08:46] <tritium> julian: (ubuntu packages)
[08:46] <crimsun> rixxon: people survive for years in comas.
[08:46] <rixxon> crimsun: must be something similar yea
[08:47] <julian> ya i uninstall them cuz games were choppy
[08:47] <srhalfwaythere> hey all
[08:47] <crimsun> mr_hus: we need the output from ``dpkg -D3773 -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ntp-server_1%3a4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu5_i386.deb''
[08:47] <dli> mr_hus, can you try, ntp-simple, instead of ntp-server
[08:48] <k00zk0> what command do i type to apply a .patch file to the kernel?
[08:48] <rixxon> will be interesting to see if i can install ubuntu on this laptop though
[08:48] <rixxon> never succeed with any other linux
[08:48] <rixxon> stupid special hardware
[08:48] <rixxon> (probably more like stupid me but still)
[08:48] <Schalken> dli, whats " apt-get build-dep " do?
[08:48] <tritium> rixxon: which laptop?
[08:48] <rixxon> tritium: fujitsu siemens amilo pro
[08:48] <dli> rixxon, why it fails?
[08:48] <tritium> Schalken: install build dependencies of a package
[08:48] <rixxon> they don't find hard drive
[08:49] <rixxon> livecds works fine
[08:49] <tritium> rixxon: hmm, okay
[08:49] <hastesaver> But I still loved that with Windows, every operation could be performed with either mouse or keyboard... very strange that Linux apps don't have as many keyboard shortcuts...
[08:49] <dli> rixxon, japanese laptops seem to be anti-linux, sony or fujitsu
[08:49] <Schalken> but what would that package be for x headers and libraries?
[08:49] <dli> rixxon, then, you can get it :)
[08:50] <dli> Schalken, why are you asking for them?
[08:50] <Ademan> how do i make thunderbird my default mail program? (or should i just use evolution?)
[08:51] <rixxon> ah, there we go *finds how to make console white/black so irssi looks normal again*
[08:51] <dli> hastesaver, that's a comment, not a question
[08:51] <mr_hus> crimsun: here's the output of that command... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14756
[08:51] <Madpilot> Ademan, Systems->Prefs->Preferred Apps
[08:51] <Ademan> thanks Madpilot
[08:51] <uscg_corey> im not a fan of evolution
[08:51] <Ademan> i havent touched it
[08:51] <tritium> !xinclude
[08:51] <ubotu> tritium: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:51] <uscg_corey> itsnot very customizable
[08:51] <tritium> !xincludes
[08:51] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[08:51] <BHSPitLappy> a creationist, eh?
[08:51] <hastesaver> dli, um, people *were* making comments here, and there were very few questions, so I thought it was okay... sorry
[08:52] <Ademan> thunderbird was the first thing i installed
[08:52] <uscg_corey> evo would be nicer if it had better new mail notifications and native panel support
[08:53] <crimsun> mr_hus: pastebin the prerm from the new package.
[08:53] <crimsun> my hunch is that it's bailing because there's no server running, but I haven't looked at the prerm since I don't have it installed.
[08:53] <mr_hus> prerm?
[08:54] <uscg_corey> does thunderbird have calender/tasks/etc ?
[08:54] <rixxon> dli: what do you mean?
[08:55] <dli> rixxon, if the livecd can get it, you can install
[08:55] <crimsun> meh, I'll just grab it myself
[08:56] <mr_hus> sorry dont know what that is ;-)
[08:56] <rixxon> dli: i can run livecd, not install from
[08:56] <tritium> uscg_corey: no, separate apps for that, and no exchange account support either
[08:56] <rixxon> dli: installers don't find hard drive...
[08:57] <rixxon> dli: haven't tried with ubuntu yet though
[08:57] <dli> rixxon, can livecd see hdd?
[08:57] <rixxon> define 'see'
[08:58] <hastesaver> rixxon, btw, dapper's live cd and recommended install cd are the same; there's less for you to download if you want to try dapper :)
[08:58] <rixxon> which version is dapper?
[08:58] <rixxon> im currently on the 6.06 desktop cd
[08:58] <rixxon> rc
[08:58] <hastesaver> rixxon, oh, that's the one I meant... if that doesn't work, sorry
[08:58] <dli> rixxon, then, I can not help
[08:59] <Administrator_> !linux
[08:59] <ubotu> methinks linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:59] <Administrator_> !cedega
[08:59] <ubotu> Administrator_: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:00] <rixxon> dli: what do you mean if livecd sees hdd?
[09:00] <Trashcan> cedega is TERRIBLE :(
[09:00] <crimsun> mr_hus: yep, it's probably because ntpd isn't running when the package upgrade occurs
[09:00] <rixxon> dli: i go to 'computer' in file browser, it lists my hard drive and knows its size; but i can't access it (which might be cause it is ntfs)
[09:00] <Administrator_> !mandriva
[09:00] <ubotu> Administrator_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:00] <rixxon> dli: i get unable to mount
[09:00] <crimsun> mr_hus: you'll need to work around it by editing /etc/init.d/ntp-server
[09:01] <Administrator_> !linux games
[09:01] <ubotu> Administrator_: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <tritium> Administrator_: you can do that in a query with ubotu
[09:02] <Madpilot> Administrator_, /msg ubotu list
[09:02] <crimsun> mr_hus: still with me?
[09:02] <tmroland> does anyone know of a smaller irc network wich could use a new server? i wanna link
[09:02] <tmroland> pls
[09:02] <Administrator_> what do you mean cedega's terrible?
[09:02] <crimsun> that's definitely off-topic, tmroland
[09:02] <mr_hus> crimsun: yeah i just opened the file
[09:02] <tmroland> no.. i run a ircd on ubuntu
[09:02] <crimsun> mr_hus: ok, scroll down to the stop target
[09:02] <Schalken> !ubuntu
[09:02] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[09:03] <Abo> !linux games
[09:03] <ubotu> Abo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:03] <Schalken> hehehe
[09:03] <rixxon> how annoying, irssi uses alt+X combination and so does the ubuntu terminal :p
[09:03] <crimsun> mr_hus: line 24 or thereabouts depending on $COLUMNS
[09:03] <Administrator_> how can cedega be terrible?
[09:03] <Schalken> !gnome
[09:03] <FuNkY14> hi guys
[09:03] <crimsun> mr_hus: change "start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid"  to  "start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid ||true"
[09:03] <FuNkY14> listen does any1 perhaps know Delphi a bit?
[09:04] <Administrator_> is ubuntu better or mandriva?
[09:04] <crimsun> mr_hus: save it, then apt-get -f install
[09:04] <F0LL0W3R> anyone know how to install Dev-c++<IP_ADDRESS> on ubuntu ?
[09:04] <roryy> list ##delphi
[09:04] <dli> Administrator_, mandriva sucks because of rpm
[09:04] <hastesaver> Administrator_, ubuntu. Easily.
[09:04] <roryy> list ##delphi
[09:04] <skon> join #debian
[09:04] <mr_hus> crimsun: so i just add the || true part at the end?
[09:04] <FuNkY14> ok thx
[09:04] <skon> sorry
[09:04] <crimsun> mr_hus: yes
[09:04] <cciRRus> When i run "dpkg -l" most entries are preceded with "ii" while some are preceded with "rc". What do they mean?
[09:04] <crimsun> let's leave the distro wars outside, 'k?
[09:05] <hastesaver> Administrator_, I'm never going back to something that doesn't have apt-get
[09:05] <Administrator_> ok
[09:05] <hastesaver> crimsun, I keep going offtopic today, sorry
[09:05] <Trashcan> agreed hastesaver
[09:05] <Madpilot> hastesaver, #ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet right now :)
[09:06] <Schalken> how can i find out what package provides the "xf86vmode.h" header file?
[09:06] <DBO> which means Im bored and looking for someone to talk to there! =)
[09:06] <Administrator_> is apt-get better or mandriva kiosk
[09:06] <dli> how come? so many big brothers online today
[09:06] <hastesaver> Administrator_, ask on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:06] <cciRRus> When i run "dpkg -l" most entries are preceded with "ii" while some are preceded with "rc". What do they mean?
[09:06] <tritium> cciRRus: installed
[09:06] <dli> Schalken, you can use apt-file or search online at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <cciRRus> thanks, what about "rc"
[09:07] <Schalken> dli, can it be done in synaptic?
[09:07] <mr_hus> crimsun: urm okay seems like this worked now.... but what the hell did we just do? just force it not to bitch??
[09:07] <tritium> cciRRus: removed, with config files still installed
[09:07] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: i don't see any linux versions at http://www.bloodshed.net/download.html ?  There are alternative C/C++ ides for Linux.  I think anjuta is one; I use emacs myself.
[09:07] <cciRRus> ooooooh
[09:07] <cciRRus> thanks again!
[09:07] <tritium> cciRRus: (they were not purged)
[09:07] <crimsun> mr_hus: essentially.
[09:07] <cciRRus> so how should i clean them off
[09:07] <cciRRus> apt-get purge?
[09:07] <tritium> cciRRus: yes
[09:07] <cciRRus> cool :)
[09:08] <tritium> cciRRus: apt-get remove --purge, actually
 aha but in sourceforge there a source code fir linux but i cant even how to compile it
[09:08] <cciRRus> hahah yes, i was about to ask. :S
[09:08] <rixxon> a guy in the uk with 10 mbit is downloading 6.06 in 11kb/s, any faster server he could use?
[09:08] <crimsun> rixxon: tell him to use se.archive
[09:08] <rixxon> i gave him uk.release
[09:09] <cciRRus> i can't purge coz apt-get can't find the file
[09:09] <cciRRus> i mean cant find the package
[09:09] <Surfnkid> back
[09:09] <cciRRus> says not installed
[09:09] <Surfnkid> dam what a race!
[09:09] <Surfnkid> got in that Kart and ripped the track
[09:09] <tritium> cciRRus: I've not seen a package named "coz"
[09:09] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: url ?
[09:10] <cciRRus> i rephrase: i can't purge because apt-get can't find the original package which has config files left over
 u mean the ur for downloading the Source code ?
[09:10] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: well, just the sf.net project page
[09:10] <tritium> cciRRus: which package?
[09:10] <cciRRus> i removed festival
[09:11] <cciRRus> "rc  festival"   "rc  gok"  "rc  libgnome-speech3"
[09:11] <Schalken> dli: thanks for your help! i found the file
[09:11] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: is there a reason to use dev-c++ ? you're used to it from windows?
[09:11] <dli> cciRRus, reinstall again, and purge
[09:11] <cciRRus> yikes! is there a more elegant solution?
[09:11] <dli> Schalken, apt-file is good, learn to use
[09:11] <rixxon> is it possible to get the windows key to do things in ubuntu/linux?
[09:11] <F0LL0W3R> roryy sorry not yet but it seems got Editor :-)
[09:11] <rixxon> im darn used to flag+d flag+r etc
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> moment to give ya the url
[09:12] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: there are *loads* of editors available in the repos.  Have you tried anjuta? It will be much easier to install, and is (i believe) a functional IDE
[09:12] <F0LL0W3R> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dev-cpp <roryy>
 nope didnt try yet but i will if i fail for Dev-C would use emacs or anjuta
[09:14] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: what makes you think this will compile on Linux?  The description says 'Dev-C++ is an full-featured Integrated Development Environment (IDE) for Win32' ?
[09:14] <blank> what's the end of file character for x86 processors
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> but they says all operating sys be supported
[09:14] <blank> intel i386
[09:14] <blank> CTRL+D doesn't seem to be it
[09:14] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: you mean on the download link?
[09:14] <F0LL0W3R> yea
[09:15] <cciRRus> Pls take a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14757     how should i remove the duplicated, unused kernels after I had updated them?
[09:15] <F0LL0W3R> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10639 rorry
[09:15] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: hrm, i'm inclined to disbelieve that.  As I understand, the whole point of dev-cpp is to make gcc easy to use on MS Windows.
[09:15] <Administrator_> is pentium 4 better or intel core?
[09:16] <F0LL0W3R> roryy yea ur right but For Linuxers Seems So hard :-)
[09:16] <k00zk0> okay
[09:16] <k00zk0> guys
[09:16] <k00zk0> im configging a kernel
[09:17] <Administrator_> is pentium 4 better or intel core?
[09:17] <Abo> does anyone know if there is a file indexer for ubuntu (like google desktop on windows)
[09:17] <cciRRus> slocate? :)
[09:17] <Administrator_> beagle
[09:17] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: try anjuta or kdevelop (any other easy-to-use ide recommendations?)
[09:17] <k00zk0> its asking me netfilter xtables support (req. for ip_tables) [n/m/y/?]
[09:17] <k00zk0> i know what n and y are
[09:17] <k00zk0> whats m ?
 seems that what i will do :-)
 anyway thnx alot for helping
[09:18] <tritium> Abo: try beagle
[09:18] <Abo> ok
[09:18] <k00zk0> guys
[09:18] <k00zk0> does anyone know what the m option does
[09:19] <roryy> in kernel config?
[09:19] <k00zk0> if its askign a question in the kernel config, and it says y/n/m
[09:19] <k00zk0> yeah
[09:19] <roryy> means the item is a module
[09:19] <cciRRus> how do i remove a specific version of a package installed? i have 2 kernels installed and I wish to remove the older one.
[09:19] <k00zk0> i typed make oldconfig and its doing most of it for me but it stals on some questions
[09:20] <k00zk0> one has 3 choices
[09:20] <k00zk0> module?
[09:20] <k00zk0> as in, if i choose m, it will make it a module
[09:20] <roryy> yes, a dynamically loadable kernel module
[09:20] <k00zk0> so i can safely choose m if im not sure about wether i need something or not
[09:21] <Administrator_> does runescape work on linux?
[09:21] <roryy> k00zk0: i believe the wiki has a kernel-compile howto -- have you read it?
[09:21] <k00zk0> im reading another guide
[09:21] <k00zk0> i just needed to patch up the hostap driver
[09:21] <k00zk0> seems easy
[09:21] <k00zk0> but if im not sure about needing something i can choose m right
[09:21] <k00zk0> ?
[09:22] <k00zk0> and it will auto load it if needeD?
[09:22] <k00zk0> roryy!!
[09:22] <BHSPitLappy> Administrator_: doesn't it use Shockwave?
[09:22] <roryy> well, i don't know about autoload.  it will be available for loading
[09:22] <k00zk0> Administrator_ yes runescape is just a flash game
[09:23] <k00zk0> it will work with firefox on linux
[09:23] <k00zk0> okay roryy thanks ^_^
[09:23] <Administrator_> it uses java
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> Administrator_: then I don't see why it shouldn't run.
[09:24] <cciRRus> how do i remove a specific version of a package installed? i have 2 kernels installed and I wish to remove the older one.
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> own 11-year-olds to your heart's content...
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> jk
[09:24] <F0LL0W3R> is a kdevelop has a Self-own installation Source ?
[09:24] <hastesaver> F0LL0W3R, do you use KDE?
[09:24] <tritium> cciRRus: just like you'd remove any other package
[09:24] <F0LL0W3R> nope Gnome
[09:25] <cciRRus> so apt-get would automagically remove the older one?
[09:25] <hastesaver> F0LL0W3R, try anjuta then
[09:25] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: sorry, it's kdevelop3
[09:26] <roryy> F0LL0W3R: it's in the repos
[09:26] <F0LL0W3R> hastesaver thats what am doin now
[09:26] <tritium> cciRRus: you'd specify the package name specifically
[09:26] <F0LL0W3R> roryy ah thx
[09:26] <cciRRus> alright, thanks once again! I'm pretty scared when i'm removing KERNEL packages. :)
[09:26] <rixxon> maybe i've missunderstood the rules, but why does the dealer 'give up' on 17? (blackjack)
[09:27] <tritium> cciRRus: dpkg -l | grep linux-image, and remove the _specific_ version you don't want anymore
[09:27] <rixxon> is this a bug or did i missunderstand the rules
[09:27] <Surfnkid> hell i aint touchin this ubuntu
[09:27] <Surfnkid> just glad it works
[09:27] <cciRRus> i did this:   apt-get remove --purge linux-386
[09:27] <cciRRus> did i just screw up?
[09:27] <tritium> cciRRus: yes
[09:27] <k00zk0> uh oh.
[09:27] <tritium> cciRRus: unless you have linux-686, let's say
[09:27] <hastesaver> cciRRus, why do you want to remove the old one, BTW?
[09:28] <cciRRus> hastesaver pls refer here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14757
[09:28] <tritium> cciRRus: I told you to remove the _specific_ kernel version you didn't want anymore
[09:28] <tritium> (see above))
[09:28] <cciRRus> okok
[09:28] <cciRRus> so i should apt-get the linux-386 back?
[09:28] <tritium> cciRRus: what processor do you have?
[09:28] <cciRRus> P3
[09:29] <cciRRus> i586 to be preice
[09:29] <cciRRus> precise
[09:29] <tritium> cciRRus: which kernel would you like to run?
[09:29] <uscg_corey> god why wont xtray show an icon
[09:29] <uscg_corey> in panel
[09:29] <uscg_corey> :(
[09:29] <cciRRus> im already booted into <IP_ADDRESS>  and i do not wish to keep <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:30] <zouyuhan> :-(
[09:30] <tritium> cciRRus: would you prefer linux-686 to linux-386?
[09:30] <cciRRus> nope
[09:30] <cciRRus> i doubt P3 is based on the i686 arch
[09:30] <tritium> cciRRus: what you _should have done was to remove the linux-image with that version, then
[09:30] <Abo> anyone knows how to install klocate, (it's meant to be a GUI for slocate), I tried "sudo apt-get install klocate" it didn't find anything, I have universe in my source.list
[09:30] <Seq> cciRRus: pentium-pro and up are 686
[09:30] <tritium> cciRRus: apt-cache show linux-686.  You'll see that you can use it.
[09:31] <cciRRus> oooops!
[09:31] <Sturek> morning....I got a problem with video playback on MPlayer and Totem, can't change the size of the video, works with GXine, so it's probably the gstreamer thingy, can anyone help me ?
[09:31] <tritium> cciRRus: I'd suggest you give linux-686 a try, and then you can remove all the -386 kernel images you want
[09:31] <cciRRus> yes i'd love to use linux-686. so should i remove linux-386 and then install linux-686, OR is there a shorter way?
[09:31] <hastesaver> cciRRus, what's the problem with having all of them installed? I'm curious...
[09:31] <cciRRus> hastesaver, im hard up on space
[09:31] <freakabcd> hi all
[09:31] <dli> Sturek, can you try with, " mplayer -vo xv " ?
[09:32] <cciRRus> i have a 2.0GB partition for ubuntu ONLY
[09:32] <Surfnkid> what command with ls can i use to pause a list
[09:32] <hastesaver> Sturek, what are you doing to change the size?
[09:32] <cciRRus> Surfnkid: pipe to less?
[09:32] <dli> Surfnkid, ls|less
[09:32] <Surfnkid> thanks
[09:32] <hastesaver> Surfnkid, pipe it through a program that shows text page by page (a "pager"), such as less
[09:32] <Surfnkid> which program
[09:33] <cciRRus> >>>>   ls | less
[09:33] <Sturek> just dragging the window borders...
[09:33] <si9o> ls <filename> | less
[09:33] <Administrator_> can you use windows screensavers with linux?
[09:34] <cciRRus> no
[09:34] <Sturek> the window gets bigger, but the actual video stays the same size, works fine with GXine..
[09:34] <tritium> cciRRus: you're all set on what to do now?
[09:34] <cciRRus> yep
[09:34] <tritium> ok
[09:34] <cciRRus> 1. install linux-686; 2. remove linux-386 and rest
[09:34] <cciRRus> thanks :)
[09:35] <Administrator_> can you do it with wine?
[09:35] <cciRRus> nope
[09:35] <si9o> ROFL
[09:35] <srhalfwaythere> is there a way to get the DCC Manager working on linux?
[09:35] <tritium> srhalfwaythere: not sure what that is
[09:35] <ubuntu_> Please anyone help me to install grub on my multiboot system , i do this 3 times but w/o succes
[09:35] <Abo> anyone knows where ecplise saves the name of the projects to open?
[09:36] <Sturek> dli: worked nicely thank you very much :D
[09:36] <srhalfwaythere> tritium: it is so i can search for a file online and download it fast
[09:36] <cciRRus> how do i make vncserver start on default? no such scripts seem to be inside /etc/init.d
[09:36] <tritium> srhalfwaythere: oh, okay
[09:36] <srhalfwaythere> tritium: irc file transfer manager from the browser
[09:36] <srhalfwaythere> from ircspy
[09:36] <power1> Hey all, I was just wondering is there a difference between using the built in alsa driver for an audio device when I compile the kernel vs installing the alsa drivers and not having it compiled into the kernel?
[09:37] <dli> Sturek, you can configure xv vo as the default
[09:37] <power1> If I am using intel HD Audio and I can hear sound but PCM mixer control has no effect and the only thing that controls volume is the front speaker slider, can I assume its working and it just a mixer problem, this is annoying for me as apps like xmms cant control the volume.....and quake 3 has no sound at all.?
[09:38] <Sturek> dli: I'll do that, I don't really get why xv vo helped, but hey, that's why we noobs need people like you ;)
[09:39] <Sturek> dli: ha now I got it, using X11/Xv as video ouput driver :D
[09:39] <dorel__> in ubuntu's sources, whats the meaning of 'restricted', 'multiverse' and 'universe'?
[09:39] <xanavim> I've just upgraded to dapper and fluxbox (rev. 4400) doesn't sleep.  is there a command or way to make it sleep?
[09:39] <cciRRus> dorel__, check out the wiki
[09:39] <xanavim> gnome sleeps ok though
[09:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell dorel__ about repos
[09:40] <fm> hi
[09:40] <fm> how do I add/remove file associations in nautilus?
[09:41] <Abo> fm
[09:41] <Abo> fm rightclic choose properties, on the open with tab, change to the application u like
[09:42] <Abo> fm rightclick on the file ...;)
[09:42] <dorel__> cciRRus: the wiki explains how to add them, i want to understand the meaning of multiverse, universe and restricted. whats the purpose of each?
[09:42] <fm> lol thx I might have figured it out :)
[09:42] <tritium> !components
[09:42] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[09:43] <tritium> dorel__: ^^
[09:43] <Diiba> !components
[09:43] <Diiba> Hi.
[09:44] <uscg_corey> ugh
[09:44] <tritium> and hello to yo utoo
[09:44] <tritium> you too, even
[09:45] <Mobadass> hi
[09:45] <fm> while I'm here : Everytime I open a .odt by doubleclicking on it while openoffice is already open openoffice complains that my file does NOT exist.. so I must go through the menus to open it.. any idea?
[09:45] <Mobadass> :( i need some help
[09:45] <Mobadass>  internet not working on my ubuntu image i downloaded from the site (vmware)
[09:45] <axion`> how do i auth on this server?
[09:45] <Mobadass> bridged and NAT dont work
[09:46] <Madpilot> axion`, /msg nickserv help
[09:46] <dorel__> great that links was helpful
[09:46] <dorel__> thanks
[09:47] <axion`> i need to know how to edit xorg.conf
[09:47] <axion`> from recovery mode
[09:48] <cilkay> Anyone have recommendations for qmail packages or do you just install it from source?
[09:48] <tritium> axion`: use your editor to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:48] <cilkay> e.g. qmailrocks
[09:49] <Abo> anyone knows where eclipse saves the workspace informations?
[09:49] <Ademan> i'm getting only audio with totem when i have the gstreamer ffmpeg plugin installed... (not even sound before that) I have the x output enabled as well
[09:49] <Ademan> Abo: is ecplipse any good? I was considering using it over Anjuta (for c/c++ dev)
[09:49] <Abo> Ademan, I can recommend it for java, no idea about c/c++
[09:50] <cilkay> Ademan: slow as hell but tons of plug-ins.
[09:50] <duff> hi
[09:50] <Ademan> eh... slow?... maybe not then.... define slow, whats ur system specs?
[09:50] <cilkay> Ademan: KDevelop is pretty sweet for C++ development.
[09:50] <Abo> cilkay, Ademan, agree... eclipse much slower than Anjuta
[09:50] <cilkay> Ademan: P4 2GHz
[09:50] <Ademan> hehe i'm using gnome
[09:51] <cilkay> Then you deserve to use the slowest thing:)
[09:51] <tritium> make the extra effor to spell "your".  It's only 2 extra letters...
[09:51] <Ademan> anjuta it is i guess
[09:51] <duff> what do you using about?
[09:52] <Abo> clikay, how exactly can I install kdevelop? (apt-get install kdevelop says it couldnt' find the package, and I have all universe enabled)
[09:52] <Madpilot> !info kdevelop
[09:52] <Abo> !info kdevelop
[09:52] <joedj> Abo: apt-get install kdevelop3
[09:52] <Abo> ok
[09:52] <B1zz> anybody running the XFCE desktop?
[09:52] <cilkay> You don't need to run KDE to run KDE apps.
[09:53] <Abo> joedj, cheers
[09:53] <cilkay> I run GTK apps in KDE, like what I'm using now, XChat.
[09:53] <Ademan> cilkay: you just need the KDE libs then?
[09:53] <cilkay> One of the few GTK apps that I love.
[09:53] <srhalfwaythere> xchat is the way to go
[09:53] <cilkay> yes
[09:53] <cilkay> Ademan: it will just drag in dependencies.
[09:54] <Ademan> cilkay: any disadvantages to doing it that way (as opposed to KDE in a KDE environment) other than you dont like gnome lol
[09:54] <cilkay> Ademan: no, not really.
[09:54] <srhalfwaythere> Blzz: no, just the gnome desktop here
[09:54] <B1zz> oh
[09:54] <cilkay> Ademan: for you... other than you might get addicted to KDE :)
[09:54] <squiggly> ughhhh
[09:54] <squiggly> i'm so hungry for ubuntu
[09:54] <Ademan> lol
[09:55] <squiggly> its impossible to develop in a windows enviroment with IDLE
[09:55] <Madpilot> B1zz, you could try #xubuntu - Xubuntu is XFCE+Ubuntu
[09:55] <squiggly> >_>
[09:55] <B1zz> ok thanks mad
[09:55] <Ademan> i really dont understand why people would prefer KDE over GNOME (i honestly havent used KDE, so its not like a "i hate KDE" its like "whats so great?")
[09:55] <srhalfwaythere> Blzz: i tired xubuntu, but it didnt seem to have the features i like in ubuntu
[09:55] <axion`> anyone available to be pm'd regarding a noob problem? it's probably an easy fix
[09:55] <cilkay> Ademan: no, seriously. It is a sweet IDE.
[09:55] <srhalfwaythere> tried*
[09:55] <Madpilot> axion`, your best bet is to just ask in-channel, not in PM
[09:55] <B1zz> yeah I like it its just that its killing me it has no "recycle bin" feature
[09:56] <B1zz> just delet forever
[09:56] <cilkay> Ademan: KParts.. for one thing. I develop PyQt apps and being able to embed bits of KDE in my apps just rocks.
[09:56] <srhalfwaythere> Blzz: Hmm, i never noticed that. The xubuntu channel would probably be more help
[09:56] <B1zz> yeah i posted question :)
[09:56] <roryy> kdevelop3
[09:56] <roryy> aargh. super-lagged!
[09:56] <B1zz> lets see if they reply
[09:57] <jonathan_> Hey guys, is there a vpn software that works well with Ubuntu
[09:57] <Ademan> roryy: what do you mean?
[09:57] <cilkay> Ademan: if you were around when OpenDoc, Taligent and all that was being developed, you'll recognize it as Bento.
[09:57] <jonathan_> it must involve RSA support
[09:57] <squiggly> anyone know of a python IDE for ubuntu?
[09:57] <cilkay> jonathaN: OpenS/WAN
[09:57] <squiggly> rsa is broken
[09:57] <jonathan_> just lookig for the client vpn version
[09:57] <squiggly> why would you use it
[09:57] <cilkay> squiggly: eric3
[09:57] <squiggly> is it any good? have you used it?
[09:58] <cilkay> jonathan_: that's an artificial distinction. OpenS/WAN can be either or both.
[09:58] <squiggly> haha
[09:58] <squiggly> it looks sweet from the screenshots
[09:58] <cilkay> squiggly: yes, I use it for PyQt development.
[09:59] <srhalfwaythere> squiggly: it has lots of features, not just a simple one
[09:59] <cilkay> squiggly: svn integration. Integrated with Qt Designer. Bicyle repairman for refactoring. Integrated with pdb.
[09:59] <srhalfwaythere> ^^^ like those
[09:59] <squiggly> it looks bloated
[10:00] <cilkay> that's nonsense
[10:00] <cilkay> but... suit yourself and use vi then
[10:00] <cilkay> I've tried Boa constructor.
[10:00] <cilkay> Really weird UI.
[10:01] <cilkay> Stani's(?) editor as well.
[10:01] <jonathan_> hmm...installed openswan.....
[10:01] <jonathan_> can't seem to find it now
[10:01] <cilkay> locate
[10:01] <captainredbeard> how can I set a certain icon as the default for a certain file type?
[10:01] <cilkay> dpkg -l
[10:01] <jonathan_> openswan: command not found
[10:01] <cilkay> doh
[10:02] <cciRRus> any ideas how do I load modules upon startup?
[10:02] <Antipodean> hey all
[10:02] <Antipodean> :)
[10:03] <tritium> cciRRus: yes, add them to /etc/modules
[10:03] <cciRRus> okok
[10:03] <jonathan_> cciRRus, use the services icon from the System menu
[10:03] <tritium> jonathan_: not for modules, no
[10:03] <cciRRus> yep! :)
[10:03] <Antipodean> I don't suppose anybody here cld take a look at this  http://pastebin.com/742473 (pasted from my terminal) and tell me what I need to do to get that game installed?
[10:04] <Antipodean> *bangs head on wall in frustration*
[10:04] <Abo> joedj, this kdevelop3 looks real cool, I'll have to play around with it for a while
[10:04] <cilkay> repeat
[10:04] <jonathan_> ahhh soz...thought u were just talking about appz...whoops...
[10:04] <liviudm> Antipodean: run sudo apt-get update then try to install it again
[10:04] <cilkay> Abo: wait until you learn about creating your own custom widgets
[10:05] <Antipodean> cheers
[10:06] <cilkay> Anyway... I came here to ask about qmail and it seems there are no ISP/sysadmin types around.
[10:06] <cilkay> I'll check tomorrow.
[10:06] <cilkay> Good night all.
[10:06] <Antipodean> liviudm: i did - it still gives the same error msg dammit
[10:07] <liviudm> Antipodean: maybe your mirror is still not synced
[10:07] <liviudm> Antipodean: use another mirror or wait until yours get synced
[10:07] <Antipodean> liviudm: how do I change mirrors, do u know?
[10:08] <Antipodean> of course u know... but u get what i mean
[10:08] <liviudm> Antipodean: edit /etc/apt/sources list or use http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to generate a new sources.list and paste the result in yours
[10:09] <Antipodean> thanks mate, much appreciated
[10:09] <hastesaver> Antipodean, but which repo is that flobyopuyo package from, anyway? I don't think it's in one of the "standard" Ubuntu repos...
[10:09] <hastesaver> Antipodean, flobopuyo
[10:09] <liviudm> Antipodean: flobopuyo is not in repos
[10:10] <Flannel> yes it is.
[10:10] <Flannel> it's in universe.
[10:10] <F0LL0W3R> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14758   what missing file i have or what i need to complete Compiling
[10:10] <hastesaver> liviudm, it's in univsere
[10:10] <hastesaver> Antipodean, I think your problem is something else -- it has nothing to do with that particular game, just that one of your repos is inaccessible
[10:10] <liviudm> hastesaver: my bad. I misspelled a char when I did an apt-cache search
[10:10] <tritium> F0LL0W3R: without looking, I'd suggest you first install build-essential if you haven't already
[10:11] <dli> any liveusb howto ?
[10:11] <F0LL0W3R> tritium loll So u would better have alook
[10:11] <liviudm> Antipodean: use the source-o-matic to generate a list with the universe and eventually multiverse repo and paste it in your sources.list. After this run sudo apt-get update
[10:12] <Antipodean> will do mate - thanks 4 ur help
[10:12] <liviudm> Antipodean: and BTW, it's flobopuyo NOT flobyopuyo
[10:12] <Antipodean> hah! now i feel stupid!
[10:12] <liviudm> Antipodean: ;)
[10:13] <Antipodean> its still telling me to get update etc... so I'll follow ur earlier advice as well
[10:13] <Antipodean> cheers
[10:15] <almenfors> hum..is it normal that after reboot you loose one mount?
[10:15] <_mason> How can i assign a command to a key ? i didnt see a 'create new shortcut' button anywhere?
[10:15] <liviudm> _mason: in console or in GNOME?
[10:16] <_mason> GNOME
[10:16] <_mason> Or, well both
[10:17] <liviudm> _mason: I don't have any idea how to do that in GNOME, but in console you can use alias
[10:17] <Antipodean> liviudm: ummm, how do I turn off "read only" on my sources list?
[10:17] <_mason> alias will bind a command to a string? correct?
[10:17] <liviudm> Antipodean: use sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <uscg_corey> anyone use network-manager ?
[10:17] <iosif> Hola
[10:17] <liviudm> _mason: yes
[10:18] <uscg_corey> _mason, system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[10:18] <hastesaver> Antipodean, or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list if you haven't used vi before :)
[10:19] <_mason> i just installed 3ddesktop viewer ( 3d desktop changer ) was going to bind the 'zoom out' function to a key.. but i couldnt find a way to add a keyboard shortcut to  system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[10:19] <Ademan> in KDevelop, it allows you to specify a template for your header files, obviously there have to be macros for filename, and toupper and such
[10:21] <Antipodean> hastesaver: ah thats much better
[10:22] <dli> any howto to make a liveUSB from a liveCD?
[10:23] <F0LL0W3R> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14758
[10:25] <granden> Hi, I get this when trying to start mysql it starts but still get the error : http://pastebin.com/742486
[10:25] <granden> Any ideas anyone?
[10:25] <almenfors> guys i need help i lost one hd and cant start disk manager for some reson =(
[10:28] <uscg_corey> anyone else using networkmanagerhave the icon have a lot of freespace to left and right of panel icon?
[10:28] <Abo> is there a tool like filemon on linux?
[10:29] <hastesaver> Abo, what does filemon do?
[10:29] <duff> I 'd like to know
[10:30] <hangfire> anyone know if breezy has sun's java compiler?
[10:30] <Abo> (hastesaver, filemon is a tool that monitors all files activities in windows -open create read write- in real time) very handy when you need to figure out what does a program use as file at a certain command
[10:31] <comingwoo> hello
[10:31] <Abo> hangfire, yes
[10:31] <Abo> hangfire check the restricted formats there is a help on installing sun's java
[10:31] <duff> physical fitness and philip
[10:35] <hastesaver> Abo, there's something called dnotify, but I'm not sure how useful it is
[10:36] <hyphenated> Abo: there'll be heaps of them, all of varying degrees of quality
[10:36] <hyphenated> Abo: apt-cache search monitor | grep file
[10:36] <hastesaver> Abo, there's also FAM -- File Alteration Monitor -- but again, it does something else too
[10:36] <duff> c
[10:38] <Abo> hastesaver, I did sudo apt-get install fam and it's removing everything on my disk
[10:38] <hyphenated> Abo: usually there are more process-specific tools to work out what's going wrong, since trying to monitor the entire system (for multi-user systems) is relatively pointless
[10:38] <hastesaver> Abo, huh? how's that?
[10:43] <Abo> hyphenated, I would like to know what a process is opening, how can this be done, you're right I agree that monitoring the whole system is pointless as everything is file in linux/unix
[10:44] <crimsun> Abo: ptrace it.
[10:44] <M> hi guys i was wondering if anyone could help me setup samba
[10:45] <top222> A flame-prone question... msg me your thoughts... if you have used both Ubuntu and Gentoo, what is your opinion of each?
[10:45] <Abo> crimsun, is ptrace a command?
[10:46] <Abo> crimsun, I didnt' find it, apt-get install ptrace didn't find it neither
[10:46] <duff> how do i become a root user?
[10:47] <timfrost> !root
[10:47] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:48] <crimsun> Abo: read http://linuxgazette.net/issue81/sandeep.html
[10:48] <MadMerC> hi ppl i was wondering if anyone could tell me what to add to the samba config file to share a harddrive ???
[10:48] <Abo> crimsun, thank you
[10:49] <dli> crimsun, do you know a how to make an ubuntu liveUSB?
[10:50] <CharlesE> I just played tuxracer on dapper i tried linux and used it as my desktop for about 6months a year or so ago. I never got xgl working quite right Thanks to dapper I played tuxracer at 145fps average with a min of 130 and max of 200 I am using a 4200 amd 64 dual core with x800pro  My question is just this, Is that a good frame rate the reason i ask is the game is crap and does anyone have any ideas for ways to test out the 3d I am thinking
[10:50] <CharlesE> of getting the doom3 demo does anyone know anything thats good to test it on (something in repositarys)
[10:50] <hyphenated> CharlesE: neverball ;-)
[10:51] <crimsun> dli: not off the top of my head, no
[10:51] <Anusien> Is there a good guide to configuring wifi?
[10:51] <hastesaver> !wifi
[10:51] <uscg_corey> yes
[10:51] <ubotu> I heard wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:51] <uscg_corey> aw you beat me to it
[10:52] <dli> crimsun, okay, I can make mine
[10:52] <CharlesE> hydroksyde, thanks ill get that as soon as im finished this current update But can you tell me the thing about the framerate?? Tux isnt that resource hungry I am just wondering if my fps will go to zero when i try something like say a doom 3 demo
[10:55] <Ademan> in KDevelop, are there macros for the header file template definition?
[10:56] <uscg_corey> !divx
[10:56] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:56] <jesper_> hall
[10:56] <jesper_> mitt msn funkar inte
[10:57] <hastesaver> jesper_, what language?
[10:58] <amee2k> hi all
[10:58] <slaine> does anyone know anything about ubuntucenter?
[10:59] <uscg_corey> what package is needed for divx support?
[11:00] <slaine> im having a problem with the installation :(
[11:00] <penguin-1> uscg_corey,  check out mplayer
[11:00] <amee2k> i'm installing ubuntu on AMD64. While Starting up the partitioner progress meter is stuck at 70% for about two minutes now, and the status line shows "detecting file systems". is that normal?
[11:00] <penguin-1> the website has almost all the codecs you will need
[11:00] <slaine> amee2k you using the 5.10 install CD?
[11:00] <penguin-1> !mplayer
[11:00] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:00] <hastesaver> !tell uscg_corey about restricted
[11:01] <amee2k> slaine: yes. DVD for amd64 downloaded yesterday
[11:01] <rem> what can you do when you rmmod or lsusb and it hangs (and you cant kill the PID ..) ??
[11:01] <rem> is reboot the only way .. ?
[11:01] <Jude> rem: kill -TERM?
[11:02] <rem> what will that do kill the terminal window ?
[11:02] <Abo> anyone tried picassa on linux?
[11:02] <slaine> is the hard drive clean?
[11:02] <slaine> no partitions etc
[11:02] <gsuveg> Abo: me
[11:02] <Abo> gsuveg, is it any good?
[11:02] <Jude> rem: No, -TERM = terminate.
[11:02] <gsuveg> dapper support is here ?
[11:02] <gsuveg> Abo: not bad.
[11:02] <rem> whats the syntax ? kill -TERM pid ?
[11:03] <hyphenated> gsuveg: not till next week. #ubuntu+1
[11:03] <hyphenated> rem: yeah
[11:03] <rem> k ty
[11:03] <gsuveg> Abo: like the f-spot
[11:03] <Abo> gsuveg, I found Gwenview yesterday, I pretty much liked it,
[11:03] <rem> doesnt help :(
[11:03] <slaine> amee2k: is the target drive clean?
[11:03] <rem> same result as kill -9 ..
[11:04] <rem> any other idea ?
[11:04] <amee2k> slaine: the partition layout is: hda1: gentoo on ext3, hda2 empty for ubuntu, hda3 swap, hda4 bootloader minipartition, hdb1 data on ext2, sda1 and sdb2 data on NTFS, sdc1 data on ext2, sdc2 data on vfat
[11:04] <gsuveg> Abo: gwenview is other level as picasa ;)
[11:04] <amee2k> no drives have physical faults i know of
[11:04] <rem> i mean it doesnt kill it ..
[11:04] <Anusien> Hrm, all the docs I can find says that Ubuntu contains the necessary information for Broadcom drivers, and I know for a fact Linux is seeing the driver, but it's not configuring it
[11:05] <slaine> amee2k: hmm, yea i think i was trying to dual boot on my laptop and couldnt, there is alot about this problem on the forums
[11:05] <hyphenated> rem: is it already dead?
[11:06] <dli> slaine, what's the error?
[11:06] <hyphenated> Anusien: the Broadcom BCM4401 works fine on my laptop in ubuntu
[11:06] <Nezen23> hi
[11:06] <amee2k> slaine: did they post any solutions?
[11:06] <Nezen23> can anyone helpe me with skydome problems in compiz?
[11:06] <gsuveg> Abo: picasa search all the image on your disk
[11:06] <timfrost> rem, if 'kill -9 ' fails, then reboot/power off is the only option, because the process is stuck in a kernel system call that can't be interrupted, and is not returning.
[11:07] <hyphenated> timfrost: or it's already dead and the parent process hasn't cleaned it up ye
[11:07] <Anusien> hyphenated: is there somewhere I can figure out how to configure it?  ifconfig/iwconfig only list sit0, lo and eth0
[11:07] <timfrost> hyphenated, that shows as a zombie
[11:07] <hyphenated> Anusien: eth0 is my broadcom ethernet
[11:07] <amee2k> !forum
[11:07] <ubotu> forum is, like, the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[11:08] <hyphenated> timfrost: yes, has he confirmed it's not a zombie yet?
[11:08] <Anusien> hyphenated: yeah eth0 works out of the box, but not wifi
[11:08] <hyphenated> Anusien: and the WifiHowto was no help?
[11:08] <rixxon> i think im perverted, im in love with an os
[11:08] <hyphenated> rixxon: it's only perverted if you act on that love ;-)
[11:09] <Anusien> hyphenated: not so far.  I'm trying to get through it
[11:09] <Abo> gsuveg, yeah I used picasa under windows, but I used to prefer acdsee
[11:09] <rixxon> hyphenated: exactly my point..! :$
[11:09] <gsuveg> Abo: your choose
[11:09] <hyphenated> rixxon: I don't want to know what you get up to with badgers and drakes
[11:10] <Abo> gsuveg, ;-)
[11:10] <Mortal`> Good morning all. In the bootloader, I saw that the "kernel" command was run with a "quiet"-parameter. I removed it because I couldn't help myself. I suppose it's only related to debug-messages?
[11:10] <rixxon> :))
[11:10] <Anusien> hyphenated: because it says "get it set up, and if it isn't one of these three chipsets, use ndiswrapper"
[11:10] <timfrost> hyphenated, rem hasn't said so, but the context indicates that the commands were run in a terminal window, and the bash shell will clean up a child that has exitted, so won't leave zombies
[11:10] <rixxon> im on a school laptop, they let us install linuces if we keep windows aswell - can i do this via the ubuntu installer?
[11:11] <hyphenated> Anusien: yeah, those are pretty much the only options. I'm glad mine is an Intel Pro Wireless card
[11:11] <penguin-1> rixxon,  yes you can dual boot windows and ubuntu
[11:11] <hyphenated> rixxon: yes, but it's a little more work than a 'complete' install.
[11:11] <rixxon> yes but i mean can i do all that from the ubuntu installer
[11:11] <rixxon> or do i have to prepare firest
[11:11] <rixxon> first.
[11:11] <hyphenated> rixxon: yes
[11:11] <penguin-1> rixxon,  yes i did that
[11:12] <rixxon> so it can slice a bit of space from the ntfs partition and use?
[11:12] <PCGenie> How do i connect Ubuntu to windows via Lan?
[11:12] <rixxon> PCGenie: ftp! :)
[11:12] <Mortal`> rixxon, is there an ftp-server in Ubuntu? :o
[11:12] <penguin-1> rixxon,  i setup a separate partition before i ran the ubuntu install
[11:13] <rixxon> Mortal`: duno, im a ubuntu newbie, im sure it's easy to install one though
[11:13] <hyphenated> rixxon: yes, you can do that via the installer or before installation
[11:13] <Mortal`> rixxon, I bet it is :)
[11:13] <rixxon> Mortal`: man apt-get, duh. :)
[11:13] <rixxon> ok thanks penguin-1 and hyphenated
[11:13] <rixxon> i'll just need to free up some space first heh
[11:14] <hastesaver> rixxon, it may be easier/safer to do the freeing up from windows
[11:14] <rixxon> how much space does ubuntu need "minimum"?
[11:14] <penguin-1> rixxon,  yeah i just used a partioning tool in windows to shrink my windows partion so i had some extra free space for ubuntu
[11:14] <rixxon> or wait i could probably read that in some docs, nevermind
[11:14] <rem> export: command not found is it not in the PATH by default ...or what is the prob ... ?
[11:14] <rixxon> penguin-1: well that was my question, do i need to do things like that or can the installer do it for me?
[11:15] <Mortal`> In the bootloader, I saw that the "kernel" command was run with a "quiet"-parameter. I suppose it's only related to debug-messages?
[11:15] <duff> how does anyone tell me how do i login for root user?
[11:15] <hastesaver> rixxon, win 2000 (or xp) came with a "system tool" called disk administration or something, and I used that one. I don't think it's a good idea changing ntfs things from Linux
[11:15] <penguin-1> i believe you need to have free space before you install,, if you only have one big ntfs partion then it wont work
[11:16] <hastesaver> duff, you don't. what exactly do you want to do?
[11:16] <penguin-1> i just used partion magic to shrink down my windows partion real fast rebooted then ran the install, worked just fine
[11:16] <rixxon> yea, was just wondering if i needed to do that ;)
[11:16] <dli> penguin-1, parted can also do that
[11:17] <penguin-1> yes but this was really fast for me
[11:17] <penguin-1> there are always more than 1 way to do things
[11:17] <penguin-1> this just happend to be fast and efficient
[11:17] <zbyte> i shared a folder on ubuntu and installed samba..so i can remotely send/retrieve files via home network..connecting to \\ubuntumachine asks for user/pass....but the one i created for ubuntu is not working..do i have to add another user/pass for network users?
[11:17] <rixxon> dli: is it easy to use?
[11:18] <dli> rixxon, you can install GUI version: gparted , or qtparted
[11:18] <penguin-1> zbyte edit your smb.conf file
[11:18] <zbyte> edit and do what?
[11:18] <penguin-1> look in that file, it has alot of comments to guid you and you should see what you neeed to edit
[11:18] <penguin-1> open up smb.conf
[11:18] <penguin-1> use gedit
[11:18] <penguin-1> or vi, whatever you prefer
[11:18] <duff> hsstesaver:I want to do a lot of things
[11:19] <maddy> rixxon: get the GParted Live CD, that's the easiest way ^^
[11:19] <rem> export: command not found  why could this be ?
[11:20] <rixxon> cool, you can share folders on ubuntu with windows users?
[11:20] <rem> yea rix
[11:20] <penguin-1> yes you can
[11:20] <penguin-1> just install samba
[11:20] <rixxon> without them installing something special? :>
[11:20] <rixxon> coolness
[11:20] <rem> you have to activate the sharing in X ...or start samabe ureself ..
[11:21] <rem> samba
[11:21] <rem> export: command not found  why could this be ?
[11:21] <rem> anyon ?
[11:21] <hastesaver> rem, export is a shell builtin in bash
[11:22] <hastesaver> rem, btw, shell builtins don't work with sudo, for some reason
[11:22] <rem> ahh thats why !
[11:22] <rem> lemme try
[11:22] <Gambaroni^away> Hi
[11:23] <Gambaroni^away> When i login to ubuntu (graphical) the screen is just being black, after i have wrote my username and password..
[11:23] <penguin-1> Gambaroni^away,  are you at a command prompt, or just a plain blank screen
[11:23] <Gambaroni^away> I try to choose another session to login to, but didnt work. It's the first time after installation
[11:23] <penguin-1> if you have a text prompt type startx
[11:24] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 yeah, i know.. But i logged in with gdm..
[11:25] <zbyte> i opened smb.conf  i see no option of setting up a user. anyone experience with using samba to share with windows?
[11:25] <penguin-1> !samba
[11:25] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:25] <penguin-1> check out those links
[11:26] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 do you know then?
[11:27] <penguin-1> click on that link it will be more informative and alot faster for you to read it then for me to type step by step to you
[11:27] <penguin-1> just click th eone that says setting up samba
[11:28] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1?
[11:29] <penguin-1> yes?
[11:29] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 do you know then?
[11:30] <penguin-1> !samba
[11:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:30] <penguin-1> click on thes second link
[11:30] <rixxon> why is gnome-terminal suddenly using 80% cpu :(
[11:30] <penguin-1> it will show you alot faster than i can type to you
[11:30] <penguin-1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[11:30] <Abo> is there a way to log 2 users? like change session without killing the already running session, this is possible in windows, but in linux I can't seem to find a way to do it, ( I can log multiple user on console though)
[11:30] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 ok..
[11:31] <almenfors> i need some help here. i had my second drive mounted..working fine. then 8 days later it suddenly is gone. cant open drive manager. wont start. have no clue what to do.
[11:31] <axion`> is cedega the only way to port windows games to linux?
[11:31] <penguin-1> axion`,  i know wine works for some
[11:32] <penguin-1> ive heard codeca is better though...
[11:32] <penguin-1> codega*
[11:32] <axion`> im looking for a free solution
[11:32] <penguin-1> isnt wine free......
[11:33] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 why do you link to sambo information for me?
[11:33] <penguin-1> Gambaroni^away, because you wanted info on setting up samba correct?
[11:33] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 no
[11:33] <Gambaroni^away> [11:25:14]  <zbyte> i opened smb.conf  i see no option of setting up a user. anyone experience with using samba to share with windows?
[11:34] <Gambaroni^away> penguin-1 zbyte did..
[11:34] <penguin-1> meh, i suppose im going blind
[11:34] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, so more to the point what kind of video card have you got?
[11:34] <penguin-1> its late, leave me alone
[11:34] <penguin-1> lol jk
[11:34] <penguin-1> :)
[11:34] <Jude> Number 14 :)
[11:34] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul hmm, good question.. It is an old laptop anyway.. IBM
[11:34] <Gambaroni^away> thinkpad
[11:35] <Anusien> How do I kill the xserver so I can apply a display patch?
[11:35] <almenfors> im in desperate need for help here =(
[11:35] <almenfors> need of* =P
[11:36] <jacopo_> help
[11:36] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, so do you get a log in screen? if so when you enter your data what happens
[11:37] <ompaul> Gambaroni^away, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:37] <jacopo_> search
[11:37] <ompaul> !ask
[11:37] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:38] <ompaul> !faq
[11:38] <ubotu> hmm... faq is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[11:39] <rixxon> since my left mouse button is broken i use the right button as primary... i set 'left-handed mouse' in mouse preferences but it has no effect
[11:40] <Anusien> I've done an apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade.  I should be completely up-to-date, right?
[11:40] <uscg_corey> crap i just accidentally deleted the top bar
[11:40] <axion`> hmm, having trouble getting wine to install
[11:40] <InevitableGlitch> Hello.
[11:40] <Ademan> anyone here use KDevelop?
[11:41] <Abo> Ademan, just installed it
[11:41] <Ademan> Abo: well i had a question about the header file templates... but i doubt you'd know that if you just installed it haha
[11:42] <igorzolnikov> hi... how i can change password of user?
[11:42] <Anusien> or in other words, I think I installed Breezy and want to get up to date, how do I make sure I did that
[11:42] <Abo> Ademan, it won't hurt to ask it, someone else may pick it ;)
[11:42] <rixxon> igorzolnikov: open terminal, sudo passwd <username>
[11:42] <Ademan> haha i've been virtually spamming this poor channel with it haha
[11:42] <igorzolnikov> kk
[11:42] <Ademan> but sure
[11:43] <Ademan> is anyone familiar with the header file template system? can you create macros and whatnot?
[11:43] <rixxon> igorzolnikov: or if you unlike me prefer clicking with the mouse, you can probably do it on System/Administration/Users and Groups
[11:43] <hastesaver> Ademan, is this related to C/C++, or some other programming language, or gnome, or what?
[11:44] <hastesaver> Ademan, oh kdevelop, sorry :(
[11:44] <uscg_corey> how can i get the default top bar back?
[11:44] <uscg_corey> ;.
[11:44] <rixxon> reinstall :P
[11:44] <ompaul> uscg_corey, don't use even the slightest bit of bad language thanks, we are going for a G rating ;-) you want to run  gnome-panel
[11:44] <hastesaver> Ademan, ask in #kubuntu ; more kde users there
[11:44] <Anusien> Yeah.  Where do I find upgrade notes for breezy->dapper?
[11:44] <uscg_corey> what are you talking about?
[11:45] <Anusien> who?
[11:45] <Ademan> thanks hatesaver
[11:45] <rixxon> uscg_corey: "cr*p"
[11:45] <uscg_corey> ;/
[11:45] <rixxon> (probably)
[11:45] <uscg_corey> didnt know that was bad considering people constantly curse in here
[11:45] <uscg_corey> and gnome-panel doesnt work, says its already running
[11:46] <ompaul> uscg_corey, you want to re create a top panel, do this right click on desktop, choose add launcher put gnome-panel in it and launch from there then add the artifacts you want
[11:46] <uscg_corey> ugh, i have to add each individual item back?
[11:46] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, I know... allowing us to delete the top panel without explaining what exactly it is is a bad feature IMHO.
[11:47] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, you could also just delete all your gnome settings, so that you'll have the default :)
[11:47] <rixxon> there should be a 'reset panels' feature aswell
[11:47] <rixxon> ...imho
[11:47] <InevitableGlitch> I'm sure you guys get this one all the time, but I'm having trouble with Screen Resolution.
[11:47] <ompaul> uscg_corey, hastesaver's method is fastest
[11:47] <Anusien> Is there a guide to upgrading to dapper from breezy?
[11:47] <uscg_corey> hrm
[11:47] <ompaul> !upgrade
[11:48] <uscg_corey> what settings do i delete?
[11:48] <Anusien> !upgrade
[11:48] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[11:48] <Anusien> thank you ompaul
[11:48] <dman> hi.. has anyone had problems with firefox lately? im having problems with ff as it sometimes takes a 100% cpu time, and does not let go..
[11:49] <rixxon> dman: using latest?
[11:49] <ompaul> uscg_corey,  I can;t remember - do you have a terminal running?
[11:49] <tribe> i don't, do u have flash plugin installed?
[11:49] <Abo> dman, mine is fine
[11:49] <uscg_corey> i can..
[11:49] <dman> rixxon, yes, im running up to date
[11:49] <tribe> because flash plugins are CPU-suckers
[11:49] <rixxon> dman: any extensions?
[11:49] <KenSentMe> In some games i can't use 3 keys at the same time (like walk left with a, forward with w and lean to the left with z). Is that a software thing or is it my hardware (keyboard)?
[11:49] <alanhs> Hi, is this a relevent place to ask a simple installation question ?
[11:49] <dman> rixxon, like?
[11:50] <rixxon> dman: like any :p
[11:50] <KenSentMe> alanhs: yes
[11:50] <rixxon> dman: firefox extensions that is
[11:50] <alanhs> Great - Bit of a newbie question - but I am trying to intall Dapper on a box that I know needs 'noapic and nolapic' as a boot option - and I cant see how you specify it?
[11:50] <Anusien> wait, ompaul: it didn't update anything
[11:50] <rixxon> dman: i mean if you have latest firefox with no extensions; its likely to be a firefox bug, right? then maybe you should report it
[11:51] <dman> tribe,rixxon, i do have the flash pluggin installed. but i had that installed always, and im only having probs of late..
[11:51] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, ~/.gnome* , ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome , one of them. Best to copy them all somewhere, and make small changes at a time. (Unless you really have no settings you'd like to save)
[11:51] <ompaul> uscg_corey, ehh its in .gconf   - so rm -rf .gconf should sort you if you log out and log out
[11:51] <rixxon> embeded flash/java makes firefox go nuts on windows for me, haven't tried on ubuntu yet
[11:52] <rixxon> dman: you might want to try the noscript extension
[11:52] <dman> oops, after about 10min ff let go of the cpu
[11:52] <Anusien> I followed the instructions in !upgrade and it didn't change anything.  When I went into the synaptic repositories library, they're still the breezy badger libs
[11:52] <lupz> is it possible to automate the installation of ubuntu ??
[11:52] <rixxon> dman: are you browsing any website with java applets or flash animations?
[11:53] <rixxon> lupz: make a ghost image? :P
[11:53] <ompaul> lupz, with dapper (due 1st June) it has an oem version
[11:53] <uscg_corey> thanks ill try
[11:53] <lupz> ompaul: good, and how does it work ?
[11:53] <redguy> !fai
[11:53] <ubotu> redguy: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:54] <redguy> lupz: also http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Installing_Ubuntu_Linux_with_FAI might be helpful
[11:54] <ompaul> lupz, I just had a quick look at it on the CD nothing more
[11:54] <ompaul> lupz, but only on dapper
[11:54] <lupz> ompaul: k, 1st june is near :)
[11:54] <dman> rixxon, yeah, ff asked me to confirm not continue loading a certain webpage
[11:54] <Surfnkid> what do u use to view or change files?
[11:54] <Surfnkid> man? and what else
[11:55] <igorzolnikov> has ubuntu news rss?
[11:55] <Ademan> what gstreamer plugin do you need to play mpg files?
[11:55] <Ademan> i have ffmpeg
[11:55] <ompaul> lupz, you can get the release candidate version of the cd at cdimage.ubuntu.com to "learn a little in advance"
[11:55] <InevitableGlitch> Ok, I have ubuntu running on a box I'm using as a file/print server, it doesn't have a monitor attached, I am controlling it using VNC, however, because there is no monitor it sets the Resolution at 640 x480 and won't let me change it.
[11:55] <tribe> i got the same the 100% CPU with macromedia's flash plugin dman, i'm now with
[11:55] <tribe> tribe@laptop:~$ dpkg -l | grep flash
[11:55] <tribe> ii  libflash-mozplugin                     0.4.13-5ubuntu1                       GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatibl
[11:55] <tribe> ii  libflash0c2                            0.4.13-5ubuntu1                       GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library
[11:55] <InevitableGlitch> How do I change it?
[11:55] <tribe> try the free ones
[11:55] <timfrost> alanhs, two parts.  Booting the CD, you need to edit the boot command line, and append the options.  In the installed system, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and add a line with "#append noapic nolapic" in the default options section (note the '#' is required).
[11:56] <ompaul> tribe, please do not paste in the channel, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and put your data there and give people the url
[11:56] <tribe> duh sorry
[11:56] <uscg_corey> ok that resoted my panel
[11:56] <uscg_corey> but it deleted all my evolution email accounts :(
[11:56] <DarkED> hey im having a small problem
[11:56] <DarkED> i used wget to download the ati driver installer
[11:56] <ompaul> uscg_corey, hastesaver did say to you to back it up before hand did you?
[11:57] <uscg_corey> i did
[11:57] <Anusien> whee, upgrading
[11:57] <eXistenZ> why the breezy is still in the download page?
[11:57] <Surfnkid> deleting things suck :-/
[11:57] <uscg_corey> trying to figure out which files store it though
[11:57] <uscg_corey> apparently its not apps/evolution
[11:57] <DarkED> it finished, but the file is two times as large as it should be (73meg as opposed to 36meg)
[11:57] <DarkED> I tried running it, md5sum fails, any idea what causes this?
[11:57] <rixxon> anyone know of a mouse that works fine in ubuntu? (back/forward buttons doesn't work in firefox with my microsoft mouse)
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> it chained the two file?
[11:58] <rixxon> its broken and i need to buy a new one anyway :p
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> try delete the big file, and download again.
[11:58] <Surfnkid> my usb wireless mouse works
[11:58] <Surfnkid> logishit
[11:58] <Surfnkid> :)
[11:58] <rixxon> you don't like logitech?
[11:58] <Surfnkid> i do
[11:58] <Surfnkid> i just make fun of names
[11:58] <Surfnkid> :P
[11:58] <Ademan> what video player do you guys reccomend?
[11:58] <Abo> tottem
[11:58] <ompaul> Surfnkid, don't use that language here thanks, we want it G rated
[11:59] <Surfnkid> how do you install the plugins and codecs
[11:59] <Ademan> Abo: i can't get totem to play ANYTHING
[11:59] <Surfnkid> ommpaul sorry
[11:59] <Surfnkid> :)
[11:59] <Surfnkid> Ademan same here
[11:59] <Surfnkid> totem is up but missing mp3 decoder
[11:59] <rixxon> i was considering a logitech v400
[11:59] <scarn> rixxon, you will need to edit the xorg.conf to get the forward/back buttons to work
[11:59] <Anusien> mplayer
[11:59] <Abo> Ademan, Surfnkid, you need to install the restricted format
[11:59] <Ademan> Surfnkid: its SUPPOSED to be through apt-get and the gstreamer-* set of plugins
[11:59] <rixxon> scarn: aha, thanks
[11:59] <Ademan> Abo: even for mpeg?
[11:59] <scarn> search the forums for 5 button mouse
[11:59] <Anusien> scarn: is that for all mice, or just logitech?
[12:00] <scarn> its an easy thing
[12:00] <Abo> Ademan, yes
[12:00] <Surfnkid> are the restrictted formats in the SPM?
[12:00] <scarn> well, alot of peeps have problems
[12:00] <uscg_corey> so noone knows where evo email acounts are stored?
[12:00] <Diiba> Hi!
[12:00] <Ademan> Abo: is that the w32codecs or somethign different?
[12:00] <scarn> diff mice
[12:00] <ompaul> uscg_corey, evolution lives in /home/username/evolution all you need to do is restore the other parts which are in /home/username/.gconf/apps/evolution
[12:00] <dman> thx tribe,rixxon, probably have to live with it then
[12:00] <scarn> i have a razor copperhead..i had to edit xorg.conf
[12:00] <uscg_corey> thats what i copied
[12:00] <uscg_corey> but it still doesnt recognize
[12:01] <ompaul> uscg_corey, log out and back in
[12:01] <rixxon> dman: did you try what tribe said?
[12:01] <Kaiser> Hello guys! I am a real ubuntu newbie (dapper) and I can't get sound in my distro ...
[12:01] <Surfnkid> know how to get the CPU and GPU fans to be monitored/on/off/ etc?
[12:01] <Surfnkid> on a Dell 8600 laptop
[12:01] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, sorry to keep hitting you with the worst imaginable kludgy solutions, but I'd like to mention that you can also try to grep your backed up directories for one of the names of your friends :)
[12:01] <Anusien> scarn: is it a topic specific to 5button mice?
[12:01] <dman> trying  the free players rixxon ?
[12:01] <igorzolnikov> my unbuntu hangs sometime... but i can move mouse...
[12:01] <uscg_corey> ?
[12:01] <ompaul> uscg_corey, do this first, sudo updatedb so you can run locate evolut and find all files on your machine
[12:02] <ompaul> hastesaver, bring him through locate its easier and you can use grep and grep -v to get there fast :-)
[12:03] <scarn> Anusien, well, 5 button mouse setup is the search i used. you will have to scroll a bit. but u will find it. its not only an ubuntu problem
[12:03] <DarkED> sorry, i lagged :D
[12:03] <Kaiser> Any suggestion? I tried calling alsaconf but I get a "bash command not found" even though I installed alsa-base packages and so on
[12:03] <Anusien> scarn: I found the link, but it seems rather specific to logitech
[12:03] <igorzolnikov> my unbuntu hangs sometime... but for all that i can move mouse...
[12:03] <rixxon> dman: yea
[12:04] <Anusien> irony of ironies, i have a microsofot mouse
[12:04] <tribe> remove the macromedia's and install the GPL ones
[12:04] <dman> rixxon, i'll give it a go in dapper, im not updating anything but security updates now
[12:04] <scarn> Anusien, there are several topics on the subject, throughout the forums. not just logitech. ms mice aswell
[12:04] <Anusien> Yeah, I'm finding some help.  Thanks
[12:05] <scarn> like i said, i have a razor copperhead and i had the problem aswell
[12:05] <hastesaver> uscg_corey, but first, try logging out and back in, as ompaul said (try simplest solutions first)
[12:05] <uscg_corey> i just manually added the account
[12:06] <Anusien> On an unrelated note, how do I kill X so I can run Nvidia's update?  I tried followed the instructions in the forums directly, but when I do, the installer complains that X is still running
[12:07] <scarn> Anusien, in terminal type init 3. when done type init 5
[12:07] <Anusien> thank you
[12:07] <scarn> np
[12:08] <Anusien> There's a lot to process though
[12:08] <Anusien> err, process mentally
[12:09] <scarn> yea, thers some work to get linux setup correctly, and how ya want 8)
[12:09] <almenfors> 8 days ago i installed ubuntu. i set it up as i wanted with 2 extra drives mounted.got my ftp up and running. and left it like that.. for 8 days. today i noticed i had slow download from my server so i decided to reboot it. when it started up again 1 hd is missing. and my login is no longer in "sudo list" ????
[12:09] <hastesaver> Gnome should just remove that feature, seriously. I thought I was removing the clock-applet or something (I didn't know what "panel" meant), and it was gone.
[12:09] <Anusien> Yeah, but even if I wanted to go back, it would be as much work, since I think I killed my windows partition
[12:09] <scarn> ouch
[12:10] <scarn> i have a seperate hd for linux
[12:10] <Anusien> laptop
[12:10] <scarn> ahh
[12:10] <hastesaver> Someone is currently trying to hack into my computer? What should I do?
[12:10] <almenfors> DarkED, hey dude i need ur help =)
[12:11] <DarkED> almenfors: what can i do for you?
[12:11] <ompaul> hastesaver, are you running any web servers or some such?
[12:11] <hastesaver> Of course, he/she is being unsuccessful (trying random generic names (ssh)), but I'd still like to do something...
[12:11] <ompaul> hastesaver, ohh do nothing other than add them to a firewall rule that says deny
[12:11] <Anusien> hastesaver: block them from your iptables
[12:11] <DarkED> sorry i am lagging
[12:11] <DarkED> almenfors: what can i do for you?
[12:11] <Anusien> worst case scenario, the moment they get a login, pull the plug
[12:12] <almenfors> DarkED, well last time we spoke i was to install dapper remeber =)  hehe well that didnt work so good. but thats not my problem now.  i rebooted my server and suddenly 1 drive is missing and my login is no longer in "sudo list" ?
[12:12] <hastesaver> how do I do that?
[12:12] <g-nome> hallo, what are the differences between ctrl+alt+F1 and ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[12:12] <rixxon> its interesting how some windows-specific things work better on ubuntu for me
[12:12] <scarn> oKtosiTe, im off to get a couple hours sleep. gl and g'nite peeps! 8)
[12:12] <hastesaver> Not pull the plug; deny them from iptables/firewall
[12:12] <ompaul> hastesaver, reactive puts you in a worse position it is most likely a broken and cracked windows box trying a 2 year old problem
[12:12] <Gondlir> Greets!
[12:12] <Gondlir> Any one able to help with an FTP question?
[12:12] <scarn> ehh how i get okosite in my post? lol must be tired heh
[12:12] <DarkED> almenfors: i know nothing about the servers
[12:13] <DarkED> almenfors: and i have no idea what your hdd problem is, except maybe something wrong in your /etc/fstab
[12:13] <Anusien> gondlir: only one way to find out
[12:13] <almenfors> DarkED, naa ive been running it on a normal install for now. to learn more =)
[12:13] <hastesaver> ompaul, you mean a two-year old ssh flaw that's gone now?
[12:13] <Gondlir> I would like to allow someone to have ftp access to my home system.. can I do that?
[12:13] <Surfnkid> Help
[12:13] <hastesaver> I can just wait for him to go through the alphabet (currently on tony, vanessa,...)
[12:13] <ompaul> that never existed in a release edition of ubuntu :)
[12:13] <Surfnkid> could someone explain to me the next step on this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=dell+8600
[12:14] <McNutella> 3 more days til dapper ;)
[12:14] <Anusien> man, microsoft has it easy.  They throw enough money at the problem, and they can package a bunch of stuff by default with their OS
[12:14] <almenfors> DarkED, the hd isnt listed in fstab and i have a script to run that might help me out. but i cant run it since im no longer in "sudo list" ??
[12:14] <laure> hello
[12:14] <hastesaver> ompaul, so I shouldn't ban him from firewall or iptables? (What did reactive mean?)
[12:14] <McNutella> Anusien: and ubuntu do it for free :P
[12:14] <laure> re-hello
[12:15] <Anusien> Well, it appears like I don't have the proper mp3 codecs
[12:15] <Gondlir> anyone able to help with my question?
[12:15] <ompaul> hastesaver, reactive is attack the box
[12:15] <Surfnkid> well i guess ill work on it tomorrow
[12:15] <Anusien> but then again I had to do apt-get to install gcc, so who knows
[12:15] <ompaul> hastesaver, it is considered as illegal
[12:15] <McNutella> Anusien: im sure someone here will be able to resolve that for you
[12:15] <Anusien> Gondlir: Does said person have an account on your computer?
[12:15] <Anusien> McNutella: Yeah, as soon as it finishes upgrading to Dapper, I'm sure I can find it in Synaptic
[12:15] <Gondlir> Anusien, not yet
[12:16] <hastesaver> ompaul, oh, ok, of course. I wasn't considering that :) (Beyond whois and nslookup, just out of idle curiousity)
[12:16] <Gondlir> I am starting from scratch
[12:16] <rixxon> can anyone recommend an irssi theme which fits into default ubuntu nicely?
[12:16] <hastesaver> ompaul, I think I'll just switch my router off and on
[12:16] <g-nome> what are the differences between ctrl+alt+F1 and ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[12:16] <twobitsprite> are there any secondary ubuntu repositories? It seems like there are some programs that are not available in the default repos?
[12:17] <emile> 5
[12:17] <Anusien> g-nome: they are different connections
[12:17] <DarkED> almenfors: i have no idea what sudo list is
[12:17] <twobitsprite> specifically I'm looking for qGo, which is fully open source, and is available in debian...
[12:17] <Gambaroni^away> ompaul yeah, the screen is just being black.. I let it stand so for 1 hour, nothing happens.. I think it is 5.10
[12:17] <Surfnkid> you get 7 tty's gnome
[12:18] <Anusien> Like, I know that switching to Linux will make me a better person, but I can't help but remember how easy it was to use my mouse in Windows.  Wi-Fi was still a pain though
[12:18] <Gondlir> Anusien// Are you able to help?
[12:18] <DarkED> i have a question
[12:18] <Anusien> g-nome: tty = teletype, which is basically a connection to your computer.  you have 7 of them, so you could be connected as 7 different accounts at the same type
[12:18] <Surfnkid> wifi thru ubuntu rocks
[12:18] <twobitsprite> Anusien, switching to linux only makes you a better person in the eyes of people who have already joined the cult :P
[12:18] <Anusien> in other words, people I care about?
[12:19] <Anusien> Gondlir: Ubuntu has several different ftp daemons available through Synaptic.  If you give the person a shell account and you run an ftpd, they can get in to that account and access those files.  otherwise, things get trickier
[12:19] <twobitsprite> Anusien, sure :)
[12:19] <Anusien> Gondlir: This is intentionally vague because which ever ftp server you choose to run has better documentation available
[12:19] <Gondlir> ok... so then I go to synaptic and type FTP and see what comes up?
[12:20] <Anusien> synaptic is graphical.  You can browse through the directories
[12:20] <timfrost> twobitsprite, you need to add the universe repository to get qGo -  see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:21] <InevitableGlitch> I'm having a problem, can anyone help?
[12:21] <McNutella> maybe :)
[12:21] <rixxon> not without knowing the problem no
[12:21] <Anusien> There's only one way to find out
[12:21] <McNutella> heh
[12:21] <rixxon> ;)
[12:21] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, don't ask to ask, just ask.
[12:21] <InevitableGlitch> Ok, I have ubuntu running on a box I'm using as a file/print server, it doesn't have a monitor attached, I am controlling it using VNC, however, because there is no monitor it sets the Resolution at 640 x480 and won't let me change it.
[12:21] <McNutella> I have an itchy arse..
[12:21] <InevitableGlitch> How do I change it?
[12:21] <jeff_> You need to change your xorg.conf
[12:21] <Anusien> well, here goes the true test of my processor, compiling mplayer
[12:22] <MadMerC> does anyone know if its possible to view an NTFS drive with ubuntu???
[12:22] <InevitableGlitch> xorg.conf, where is that?
[12:22] <newbie2> anyone here using ndiswrapper?
[12:22] <rixxon> MadMerC: probably, duno how though :)
[12:22] <Anusien> MadMerC it is.  Try ntfscat or ntfs{TAB} to see all the options
[12:22] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:22] <Gondlir> Anusien// Any suggestions for a newbie to look for?
[12:23] <Dybber> MadMerC, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:23] <MadMerC> Dybber: thanx
[12:24] <spikeb> yes, you can view it
[12:24] <hastesaver_> Is there a way I can ask sshd to ban an IP address that has been getting too many wrong attempts?
[12:24] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, just accept the default options and when it comes to screen resolution, select only the ones you want to view with via VNC. Then you will have to restart X on that machine: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restaart
[12:24] <Dybber> I have a problem with Totem (is this the wrong place to ask?). The error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14761
[12:25] <jeff_> InevitableGlitch, sorry that's: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:26] <hastesaver_> Dybber, try killing esd and starting it again, or try removing your /home/dybber/.esd_auth (ignore the Gtk-CRITICAL warnings, I see them everywhere and I don't think they mean anything :)
[12:26] <spikeb> yes, gtk critical warnings are anything but
[12:27] <spikeb> first off, how do you reconcile the words critical and warning heh
[12:27] <_mason> I have a issue with wine, is there a way to stop it Full screening an application that, well needs to be fullscreened. Trying to play arcade games it painfull, cause my reso jumps down to 640x480 ( or whatever it is ) and would much rather a small playable window on my desktop .. How can i suppress the full screen call ?
[12:28] <rixxon> Hobbsee: how did you get such a host? :>
[12:28] <spikeb> hiya Hobbsee
[12:28] <newbie2> ok I take it no one is using ndiswrapper then any tips on setting up my wireless network card total newbie to ubuntu
[12:29] <Fikus> i know this has been asked already but im having some problems fixing my x-server issues from upgrading to dapper any takers?
[12:29] <Surfnkid> how can i change the attributes settings on the /etc/modules file?
[12:29] <Surfnkid>  its read only and i need to add a few lines
[12:29] <Gondlir> Where do things go once Synaptic has installed them?
[12:29] <Dybber> hastesaver, the /home/dybber/.esd_auth error disappeared but it still wont start. I also get an error in a lilttle popup window saying that video-outdata is in use by another program.
[12:29] <_mason> chmod 777 /etc/modules
[12:29] <Hobbsee> rixxon: by being a member.  see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[12:30] <almenfors> i need some serious help. got problems, serious problems.
[12:30] <Surfnkid> thx
[12:30] <_mason> @ Surfnkid
[12:30] <Hobbsee> hi spikeb
[12:30] <rixxon> Hobbsee: tanks
[12:30] <rixxon> +h
[12:30] <Surfnkid> and how do i chanage it back to read only?
[12:30] <_mason> Surfnkid : sudo chmod 777 /etc/modules
[12:30] <_mason> Surfnkid : sudo chmod 766 /etc/modules  ?
[12:30] <Surfnkid> ok
[12:30] <Gondlir> ok folks...
[12:30] <Surfnkid> 777 off 766 on
[12:30] <_mason> ^ for read-only
[12:30] <Surfnkid> thx
[12:30] <almenfors> spikeb, and who is that =)
[12:30] <Gondlir> I am officially lost.. but willing to learn
[12:31] <spikeb> almenfors: psychiatrist, maybe?
[12:31] <spikeb> almenfors: heh
[12:31] <alanhs> I am trying to intall dapper on a strange box - just for fun ;-) and it hangs during the initial boot from the install cd - can someone point me to a good start point - I am a newbie to this distro.
[12:31] <almenfors> spikeb, haha well thats not my problem actually.. or atleast for now. if i dont get this problem fixed ill need one for sure.
[12:31] <spikeb> almenfors: what's up?
[12:32] <Anusien> So appearantly trying to use stuff like gcc and vim while upgrading doesn't work
[12:32] <Surfnkid> it wont let me save :(
[12:32] <spikeb> heh Anusien
 did you check the md5 sum after you dl it?
[12:32] <almenfors> spikeb, well i was acessing my ubuntu using ftp. thought it was slow. so i decided to reboot. after reboot im suddenly not in "sudo list" anymore?
[12:33] <spikeb> um
[12:33] <spikeb> hmm
 Yes, it installs on another machine.
[12:33] <_mason> alanha, Try installing with the live disk. ( normally a lot more buggy.. but might not hang ? )
 try disabling some stuff.. like usb acpi etc etc
[12:34] <spikeb> almenfors: ok, do you have a livecd?
[12:34] <octan> linux acpi=off nousb .. brbr i dont rememer all the syntaxes
[12:34] <almenfors> spikeb, nopes its a real install
[12:34] <hastesaver_> Dybber, try 1. killall esd; esd 2. logging out and back in 3. rebooting
[12:34] <almenfors> spikeb, been running without problems for 8 days.
[12:34] <spikeb> almenfors: i meant do you have a livecd around that you can use
[12:34] <Gondlir> I could use some further assistance on the FTP Server question...
[12:34] <almenfors> spikeb, well im running breezy but i have dapper live.. will that work?
[12:35] <spikeb> almenfors: yeah
[12:35] <dark_light> i am on amd64 and have to install a 32bit package. it needs libSDL-1.2.so.0 that is on /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 but this package seems to be looking on /usr/lib32/libSDL-1.2.so.0 .. i have to install the 32bit version too? how? it might broke the package system..
 yes the machine is a real problem one - took me ages to get Gentoo working on it so I tried that already, how can I get a verbose boot ? Some trace would help.
[12:35] <almenfors> spikeb, ok what do u want me to do?
[12:35] <spikeb> almenfors: what you need to do is boot from the live cd, mount your hard drive, and edit your sudoers file
[12:35] <Gondlir> Mostly How can I offer an FTP connection for someone to my system so they can upload.
[12:35] <alexander_> my firefox wont start up after I installed the automatix pack _
[12:35] <hastesaver> Gondlir, install ftpd ?
[12:35] <almenfors> spikeb, ok hold on 1 min
[12:35] <spikeb> !automatix
[12:35] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:36] <_nano_> !easyubuntu
[12:36] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[12:36] <Gondlir> This is the netkit ftp server.  It is recommended for you to use one of its
[12:36] <Gondlir> alternatives, such as wu-ftpd or proftpd.
[12:36] <Gondlir> That is what I got...
[12:37] <spikeb> Gondlir: do NOT use wu-ftpd
[12:37] <spikeb> heh
[12:37] <Hobbsee> F0LL0W3R: please kill off that message.
[12:37] <almenfors> spikeb, ok got the cd. brb from live.
 okitonnn
[12:37] <spikeb> almenfors: ok
[12:37] <Gondlir> I installed something called "libnet-ftpserve-perl"
[12:38] <Gondlir> Is that good?
[12:38] <spikeb> it's not wuftpd. should be fine
[12:38] <Gondlir> spikeb, didn't you just say to NOT use that one?
[12:39] <spikeb> Gondlir: yes. and since what you just asked about is NOT wuftpd, you'll be fine
[12:39] <dark_light> i am going to try link the lib64 libraries to lib32 directory, anyone have a better idea? (it must don't work..)
[12:39] <Gondlir> spikeb, thanks..
[12:39] <Gondlir> So where does it go when synaptic is done?
[12:39] <spikeb> dark_light: install the 32 bit version of your OS instead
[12:40] <dark_light> spikeb, openoffice on amd64 comes on 32bit version
[12:41] <spikeb> dark_light: heh
[12:41] <Gondlir> spikeb, I am still rather new to this.. I apologize if my questions are silly..
[12:42] <Gondlir> Synaptic finished with the package.. but I am not certain where to find it now.
[12:42] <spikeb> Gondlir: they're not silly, but i have no idea where it's installed
[12:42] <twobitsprite> how do I change the look of my QT programs in ubuntu? they all look very plain, but they used to look great in debian with kde
[12:42] <richiefrich> u can search
[12:42] <dark_light> well, there are many duplicated libs that is alredy installed.. so install the x86 version should be fine...
[12:42] <spikeb> twobitsprite: you probably need to install kcontrol
[12:43] <spikeb> dark_light: yeah should be
[12:43] <Gondlir> How would I access it?
[12:43] <spikeb> Gondlir: no clue, the only thing i know about ftp is that wuftpd has a horrible security history
[12:43] <Gondlir> ok
[12:43] <twobitsprite> spikeb, k, thanks
[12:43] <moses> help
[12:43] <moses> how do you check the free disk space?
[12:43] <richiefrich> Gondlir what did u install ?
[12:43] <richiefrich> moses du
[12:43] <captine> Gondlir: i used proftp on Slackware.  Worked well
[12:44] <dark_light> moses, df -h
[12:44] <moses> where is that df?
[12:44] <richiefrich> moses du also
[12:44] <richiefrich> du -ch <dir>
[12:44] <Gondlir> I installed something called "libnet-ftpserve-perl"
[12:45] <moses> is there a way to install ubuntu and use only minimal space for the os?
[12:45] <moses> cause i only have 2.5 gb hdd
[12:45] <dark_light> moses, $ whereis df -> df: /bin/df
[12:45] <spikeb> moses: sort of. a server install is about as small as it gets
[12:45] <dark_light> du is on /bin too
[12:45] <eggzeck> moses: you may be able to install the base system only.
[12:46] <zouyuhan> 2.5 gb is enough
[12:46] <moses> how?
[12:46] <moses> base system? what is the difference?
[12:46] <InevitableGlitch> jeff_ : you still there?
[12:46] <dark_light> (no, du is on /usr/bin ..)
[12:46] <richiefrich> locate   also
[12:46] <moses> you mean custom install?
[12:46] <Gondlir> Captine// can you help with proftpd?
[12:47] <Gondlir> Captine// do I want to run it inetd or standalone ?
[12:47] <captine> Gondlir: am a pretty new user to Linux.  I set it up for internal use on my slackware box.
[12:47] <captine> i ran it in inetd, with no anonymous user access
[12:47] <InevitableGlitch> jeff_ :  Thanks man, it's working fine now. :)
[12:47] <richiefrich> Gondlir i can do u vsftpd
[12:47] <eggzeck> dark_light, du isindeed located in /usr/bin
[12:47] <richiefrich> not profstpd
[12:47] <moses> zouhan
[12:48] <moses> is 2.5gb really enough?
[12:48] <Fikus> hello?
[12:48] <moses> and i have 64 mb of ram is it enough also?
[12:48] <Gondlir> one sec richiefrich I will see if I can find it.. That will be the third package i install
[12:48] <dark_light> eggzeck, yes, i though it was a unix standard tool
[12:48] <moses> is 2.5 gb enough to use linux?
[12:48] <moses> hdd
[12:48] <spikeb> moses: that's not really enough to run a graphical system (64mb ram)
[12:48] <eggzeck> moses, base system = no gdm (and no other things too, hehe)
[12:48] <dark_light> moses, 64mb isn't enough for gnome, but for xfce i think it will run
[12:49] <moses> ok
[12:49] <moses> what is the minimum then
[12:49] <Fikus> can anyone help me i upgraded and even trying an old kernal, reconfiguring it back to NV from nvidia and nothing
[12:49] <moses> how about 96?
[12:49] <spikeb> moses: moses you might want to look into something more specialised for your hardware, like damn small linux
[12:49] <moses> 96 mb rram
[12:49] <richiefrich> Gondlir  try dpkg-query -l libnet-ftpserve-perl
[12:49] <richiefrich> Gondlir  try dpkg-query -L libnet-ftpserve-perl
[12:49] <moses> i see..
[12:49] <Gondlir> I just snagged the one you suggested.. now what?
[12:49] <moses> yeah i heard about it
[12:49] <Fikus> anyone?
[12:49] <Anusien> Am I crazy, or is wineHQ's synaptic server down?
[12:50] <spikeb> moses: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[12:50] <moses> but i wonder if it will have the same drivers,
[12:50] <moses> downloadable?
[12:50] <dark_light> you can try the various lightweight graphical interfaces.. it might be enough for you
[12:50] <Abo> I need to resize an ext3 partition (I'm using qtparted), right clicking shows the resise option grayed
[12:51] <richiefrich> Gondlir what one ?
[12:51] <richiefrich> Gondlir vsftpd ?
[12:51] <moses> is the dsl downloadable?
[12:51] <spikeb> yeah
[12:51] <moses> where?
[12:51] <Gondlir> yes
[12:51] <captine> is there anyway to run 2 operating systems on one machine at the same time?
[12:52] <dark_light> captine, you can emulate one with the other os
[12:52] <eggzeck> never seen that question before
[12:52] <spikeb> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ check it
[12:52] <richiefrich> Gondlir  http://penguinslair.dyndns.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8
[12:52] <moses> will it have the drivers like the usual ubuntu installer?
[12:52] <spikeb> captine: yes. virtualization
[12:52] <richiefrich> Gondlir if u have questinos ask me
[12:52] <zouyuhan> Can I use Airport Extreme in Dapper?
[12:52] <misha> hi all :)
[12:52] <moses> yes it says, the dsl runs at the same time with windows
[12:52] <captine> dark_light: so i can emulate windows from in ubuntu?
[12:53] <aLPHa_LeaK> zouyuhan: yes.
[12:53] <Abo> does anyone know why , in qtparted, the resize option is grayed ?
[12:53] <Anusien> "Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).
[12:53] <Anusien> " <-- what package do I need?
[12:53] <dark_light> cappiz, yes
[12:53] <richiefrich> Gondlir  thats your config for it,  just add what ever section u need then start the deamond
[12:53] <ben_underscore> captine, not emulate but virtualise - you could use vmware for example
[12:53] <spikeb> Abo: are you running it as admin? also, ar eyou trying to resize the disk you booted from?
[12:53] <dark_light> cappiz, vmware (proprietary) and qemu (free software) just do it
[12:53] <Gondlir> uhmm ok...
[12:53] <zouyuhan> Which version should I get? Newest?
[12:53] <Gondlir> I'm a little cautious as I've not done this before..