:P
[00:00] <lee17> hey guys i have a 64 bit laptop but why does it say in the downloads section that 32 bit is "recommended"
[00:00] <metaspike> aeon-ltd, you sure? maybe he should restart or terminate the process. running simulatneous apt- processes isnt' really a good idea.
[00:01] <the-master> metaspike: how do I terminate the process?
[00:01] <metaspike> the-master, you could find it with htop
[00:01] <aeon-ltd> metaspike: if there are no processes running there is no other option
[00:01] <sskalnik> lee17:  32bit is a safe bet if you don't know what you have, and historically it has been somewhat more stable. 64 is totally fine these days though
[00:01] <timaaarrreee> does anyone know how to read the temporay kernel log file  during initramfs? can't mount to get /sbin/init (its' either the filesystem or hard drive)
[00:01] <metaspike> the-master, the prudent option would be to reboot and see if it works then
[00:02] <the-master> Aeon-ltd: I killed a apt-dpkg earlier halfway through, that's why it's doing it...
[00:02] <the-master> I'll try that, metaspike, tyvm... bbs
[00:02] <lee17> sskalnik: what's the difference?
[00:02] <cordoval> meta
[00:02] <metaspike> u might have to delete it afterall but just incase >_<
[00:02] <cordoval> it works
[00:02] <cordoval> man you rock
[00:02] <ionsbrew> aeon-ltd,  Dell inspiron, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz 512 of ram inbuilt graphix card desk top,  i am running Ubuntu 11.10 fine but feel as I am a newb this may be a little untested and i need a stable version to learn on
[00:02] <metaspike> cordoval, *highfive*
[00:02] <overclucker> the-master: I would try rebooting the computer before deleting the lock file, just to be safe
[00:03] <cordoval> highfive man
[00:03] <cordoval> now back to work
[00:03] <cordoval> thanks a lot
[00:03] <aeon-ltd> ionsbrew: yeah lubuntu or xubuntu would be fine, i just wouldn't run compiz or unity wayy too heavy
[00:03] <mcc> Also, couple more Ubuntu 11 config questions...
[00:04] <ionsbrew> ok thank man
[00:04] <sskalnik> lee17:  32bit works on x86 and x86-64; 64bit won't work on a 32biut machine
[00:04] <mcc> (1) SInce I moved to ubuntu 11, there's this weird thing where the menu bar is blank until I mouse over it (or press a modifier key for some reason. How do I make it not do that and just show the menu bar?
[00:05] <lee17> thank you sskalnik happy holidays
[00:05] <sskalnik> lee17:  64bit may be faster, depending on what you do
[00:05] <sskalnik> lee17:  No prob, have fun!
[00:05] <escott> timaaarrreee, is dmesg in the initramfs?
[00:05] <metaspike> mcc graphical glitch? i suggest compiz tweaking, different video drivers or just a total upgrade / sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:06] <mcc> i don't *think* it's a glitch, it looks super intentional
[00:06] <mcc> like the app title fades out to let the menus appear and stuff
[00:06] <greylurk> mcc: that's just the default in Unity these days.. Not a glitch.  I don't know if there's a way to change it.
[00:06] <brophat> where can I set up that email wigget on the right side of the top bar?
[00:07] <brophat> so that it pings my yahoo account
[00:07] <mcc> hm. it seems like basically all of the defaults in 11 are pretty obnoxious, if there were a way to just get the 10.x desktop environment i'd probably go for it :|
[00:07] <zacarias> Hi. When I download a java application from the internet and I try to open it, it tells me it is not marked as executable. What shall I do?
[00:07] <theadmin> zacarias: Try to guess. Mark it as executable.
[00:07] <overclucker> zacarias: chmod +x file.jar
[00:08] <dr_willis> or do a java -jar foo.jar
[00:08] <mcc> i'm currently trying to get rid of the strange Lion-style scrollbars, I think I figured that out?but it requires restarting (!) so I can't test it yet
[00:08] <theadmin> zacarias: To do so, open the file's properties and choose "Allow executing this file as program" in the Permissions tab
[00:08] <dr_willis> mcc:  the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites have guides on tweaking unity.
[00:09] <metaspike> get the source code and hack the stuffing out of it... or as dr_wills says. :0
[00:09] <mcc> will write that down, thanks
[00:09] <rhin0> some reason clicking on bash prompt doesn't work --- anyone know how I get a command shell or what is the command for a command shell (bash)  -- I#ve messed it up
[00:09] <dr_willis> mcc:  and the askubuntu.com site has a lot of lists of addons for unity to check out. new indicator applets, quicklists and other neat tricks.
[00:09] <zacarias> theadmin: that's what I tried to do first, but this command doesn't appear. I'm running Xubuntu, I don't know if it has something to do
[00:09] <the-master> restart did the trick, thanks fellas
[00:09] <mcc> Is there a simple way to just remove the GUI altogether and go to vterms / headless, if I've already installed a GUI install?
[00:09] <dr_willis> rhin0:  alt-f2 run gnome-terminal
[00:09] <lee17> sskalnik: hey uh.. i was looking at the guide but i only have a flip cam that is sort of a usb storage, do you know if that is fine? do i have to empty it to work
[00:09] <dr_willis> !text | mcc
[00:10] <theadmin> zacarias: Okay, just chmod +x something.jar then
[00:10] <rhin0> ok thanks dr willis - what I was looking for
[00:10] <mcc> coool
[00:10] <rhin0> alt-f2
[00:10] <mcc> thanks dr_willis/all
[00:10] <lee17> sskalnik: for saving the iso i mean in a usb stick
[00:10] <dr_willis> mcc:  my main ubuntu box is just that.. a desktop isntall i had to steal the monitor from. :)
[00:10] <sskalnik> lee17:  Are you trying to use the flip cam as a USB installer? Sounds like a hack. Might work, but I would not bet on it.
[00:10] <gnomes> is anyone free for a quick question
[00:10] <sskalnik> !ask > gnomes
[00:10] <lee17> sskalnik: yeah
[00:10] <dr_willis> gnomes:  jusyt ask it and see.
[00:12] <greylurk> Is there a way to install the proprietary nvidia drivers from the command line?
[00:12] <theadmin> greylurk: jockey-text --enable "your drivers name"
[00:13] <theadmin> greylurk: To find out the availalbe drivers, use "jockey-text -l"
[00:13] <theadmin> Both commands need sudo
[00:13] <theadmin> I think
[00:13] <zacarias> overclucker: thanks, it worked!
[00:13] <greylurk> @theadmin - thanks.
[00:15] <gnomes> I was deleting old ppa's under system sources in ubuntu 11.10. I think i might have deleted the standard or "main " canonical update source on accident. is there anyway to restore update managers software sources with out a full reinstall of the os?
[00:15] <sskalnik> I'm trying to test two serial connectors in minicom, but both terminals show the interface as 'offline'. I'm probably forgetting something basic here...
[00:15] <sskalnik> gnomes:  Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:15] <dr_willis> sskalnik:  real serial port? or usb-serial things?
[00:16] <gnomes> what would default be for oneiric?
[00:16] <sskalnik> dr_willis:  It's a networked serial port, if that makes any sense. It's serial over Ethernet. I can connect to the device, but the ports are 'offline'
[00:16]  * the-master shrugs "I guess it never hurts to have an install disk lying around anyway"
[00:16] <dr_willis> sskalnik:  hmm.. beyond my experience.
[00:16] <longcat> is there a way to tell my dvdram drive to operate in CAV mode?  the spinning up and down is really slowing things down
[00:16] <sskalnik> dr_willis:  no prob, thanks for trying
[00:17] <dr_willis> sskalnik: i got some old-skool serial termianls :)
[00:17] <nodestool> how do i know if i can upgrade my server if i am on LTS?
[00:18] <gnomes> sskalnik - what would i be looking for under /etc/apt/sources ?
[00:19] <greylurk> @nodestool - what are you upgrading to?
[00:19] <dr_willis> gnomes:  normally pps'a re added one per file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   while the main sources are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:19] <Guest0589> Why is Ubuntu always asking me to authenticate everything I do. Password prompts everywhere. Is this normal? Is there a way to get around this? I'm okay with authenticating some very important things sometimes
[00:19] <dr_willis> gnomes:  so what did you change exactly?
[00:19] <dr_willis> Guest0589:  'eveyrthing i do' is a bit vague....
[00:20] <folek> hello again
[00:20] <greylurk> @guest0589 - yes, that's normal.  It only asks you to auth if you're doing something that could damage the system or harm other users of the system.
[00:20] <theadmin> gnomes: Here's a sources.list with all the official Ubuntu repositories, enable/disable as needed: https://pzt.me/8vqs
[00:20] <dr_willis> You use the sudo users password for admin type tasks..
[00:20] <Guest0589> dr_willis: Not "everything I do". Just things like installing and running some applications
[00:20] <dr_willis> Guest0589:  installing or other admin tasks would need the admin password..
[00:20] <dr_willis> 'running some applications' - depeneds on the app
[00:21] <Guest0589> dr_willis: Is there a way to disable sudo prompts all the time when I'm installing stuff?
[00:21] <gnomes> i was deleting ppa's under other software that i no longer used. my freaking cat jumped up and sat on my keyboard, which deleted all of the ppa's under "other" this would be okay, but now i dont know if i need any under this tab
[00:21] <dr_willis> you normally just have to enter it the first time to get the package manager started. and its either cached for a few min in bash, or just needed once from the gui tools
[00:22] <eutheria> my touchpad is very 'slow' even if i increase it in the control panel it is still very slow
[00:22] <folek> who have macbuntu?
[00:22] <dr_willis> gksudo synaptic, install whats needed...  shouldent ask except the firs time
[00:22] <dr_willis> folek:  macbuntu is somthing you should most likely run away from.....
[00:22] <dr_willis> folek:  unless they have done some serious work on that project it was rather.. well.. flakey last i looked into it.
[00:23] <folek> who is in a LUG?
[00:23] <dr_willis> Linux User Group
[00:23] <dr_willis> !lug
[00:24] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: +1 macbuntu - looks a lot like a mac gui, works nothing like it
[00:24] <aeon-ltd> * +1 on not using macbuntu
[00:24] <dr_willis> and it can break things badly
[00:24] <the-master> grrr, now its hanging up on configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer, its not doing anything...but displaying these terms and conditions...
[00:24] <folek> i am in HLUG in OWL germany www.lug-owl.de
[00:25] <Guest0589> dr_willis: What about things like password pop-ups everytime I want to install something in software center?
[00:25] <escott> the-master, have you agreed to them?
[00:25] <xangua> the-master: hit tab to get the accept button
[00:25] <BlaDe^> is ubuntu closest to debian 5 or 6 ?
[00:25] <folek> 6
[00:25] <the-master> xangua: you rock... I feel like a moron now
[00:25] <BlaDe^> folek: can I install debian 6 stuff on ubuntu?
[00:25] <BlaDe^> (mysql)
[00:26] <BlaDe^> or do i need to compile it myself
[00:26] <folek> yes about the deb.paket
[00:26] <projekt26> is there a reason why firefox 9 has not been released for ubuntu yet?
[00:26] <the-master> tab was probably the only key I HADN'T touched...
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> projekt26: branding and documentation
[00:26] <projekt26> ok thanks
[00:26] <folek> the software centre can deb-file installed now
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> projekt26: on canonical/ubuntu's half
[00:27] <aBound> projekt26, You can install Firefox 9 through the PPA.
[00:27] <gnomes> eureka!!! who ever directed me to that ppa page rocks!! you saved me from a fun reinstall
[00:27] <the-master> aBound, what's up broham?
[00:27] <projekt26> aBound: I know. I just dont feel confortable using a browser that does not come from the official source though :)
[00:28] <aBound> projekt26, Understood.
[00:28] <aBound> the-master, Howdy.
[00:28] <aBound> Gave 12.04 a run and just wasn't working out for me given the alpha. :P
[00:30] <the-master> aBound: finally getting that python-glade2 install going...lol
[00:31] <aBound> the-master, How'd you figure it out?
[00:31] <gnomes> quick question as long as i am here, i recently  dual booted my friends hp laptop by using wubi. we soon uninstalled wubi because we relised that it limited your partition to 30gb.  i then partitioned using windows, then installed 11.10 ubuntu on that partition. after the install ubuntu works fine, but it says windows was corrupted!!! is this a known issue?
[00:33] <aBound> gnomes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[00:33] <aBound> gnomes, Seems like a known problem with Wubi.
[00:34] <the-master> and of course, even though the cd is in the cd drive, its still asking me to insert it
[00:34] <aBound> the-master, It'll be a while before Linux just works. :P lol
[00:35] <setekh> let's hope I do this right.  I haven't used IRC in years.  hi :)  I've got a problem with installing Ubuntu 10.04LTS and all of the documentation I have read does not address the issue I am having.  is there anyone available to assist?
[00:35] <the-master> oh snap... its asking me to run it in my OTHER CD rom drive, the one the motor is broken in...
[00:35] <aBound> setekh, What issues are you currently citing for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[00:36] <aBound> the-master, Oh boy sounds like you're in for a long day.
[00:37] <gastronomixical> 'lo
[00:37]  * the-master gets out hammer and screwdriver "You're preaching to the choir, mein freund
[00:37] <Flannel> the-master: Is this an Ubuntu CD that it's trying to use as a repository?
[00:37] <share> w
[00:37] <Flannel> (backscroll isn't clear)
[00:37] <share> Why lsusb lists most hubs as 1.1 and only 2 as 2.0?
[00:37] <wiredvamp> i am trying to get my webcam to work on skype
[00:37] <share> I only have 2 usb 1.1 ports
[00:37] <setekh> aBound: we cannot get the wireless controller to work, wlan0 does populate info but isn't configured.  eth0 is broken (the actual physical plug connection malfunctions) so we cannot get updates via the network that way
[00:37] <the-master> Flannel: Yes, I've been trying to install python-glade2 for two days, and it keeps asking me for the CD no matter what I do...
[00:38] <Flannel> the-master: and you're connected to the internet (and don't really care about actually using the CD, just want it to stop asking you)?
[00:38] <the-master> flannel: Well, I'd really like to install python-glade2 so I can use samba
[00:39] <Flannel> the-master: This computer is connected to the internet? or are you actually trying to use the CD?
[00:39] <the-master> Flannel: The computer is connected to the internet, but its still asking me for the CD
[00:40] <Flannel> the-master: right, I understand.  You need to simply disable the CD as a software source.  We can do that by editing files, or using a GUI, which would you prefer?
[00:40] <the-master> flannel: I'm kind of a newb, so whichever teaches me more
[00:41] <Flannel> the-master: Alright.  We'll go ahead and edit files, because that's easier for me to show you what to do (because they keep moving/renaming the GUI).
[00:41] <the-master> flannel: go for it... but I've gotta run out soon, so if you could just point me to a web page that I could look at later, that would be most helpful
[00:41] <xangua> the-master: Flannel open Software Center - Edit - Sources, has never change
[00:43] <KarmaTEST> khm
[00:43] <Flannel> xangua: Except for when that option didn't exist.
[00:43] <xangua> Flannel: it does
[00:43] <Flannel> the-master: If we run out of time, you can ask anyone in here to help you disable the CD repository from your sources.list.  Someone will know what that means.
[00:44] <Flannel> xangua: In past releases, it hasn't.  Like I said, it seems to move every few releases.
[00:45] <xangua> Flannel: it does exist here in lucid and in oneric
[00:45] <the-master> I think I actually may have figured it out with my bad self, flannel...
[00:45] <Flannel> xangua: There are more releases than just those two.  In the past it's been "software sources", "software properties", only accessible via Synaptic, etc, etc.
[00:46] <Chief_G> can we do netflix on latest ubuntu?
[00:46] <the-master> uncheck that little box that says "cdrom with ubuntu 11.10 oneric ocelot" under the ubuntu software
[00:46] <Flannel> the-master: Good.  If you opened up said GUI, and unchecked the CD repositories, that'll accomplish it.  (But that's harder to explain via text)
[00:46] <Flannel> the-master: Yep, sounds about right.
[00:47] <escott> Chief_G, no
[00:47] <Chief_G> :( any hope?
[00:47] <Flannel> the-master: Now you should be able to update your software cache, and then install, and it won't ask for the CD anymore.
[00:47] <overclucker> Chief_G: it's up to netflix to start supporting linux
[00:48] <escott> Chief_G, not likely. you can write to netflix, but the studios would make netflix pay so much for that right that netflix would balk
[00:48] <xcyclist> I am having a hard time configuring basic eruby on ubuntu with apache.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I got told by the apache guys that nobody does this anymore, but there are obviously eruby/erubis packages that install successfully on Ubuntu, so what gives?
[00:49] <eggnogg> how do I unzip a .gz file?
[00:49] <the-master> alright kids, I'm out!
[00:49] <the-master> peace and love
[00:49] <overclucker> eggnogg: is it just .gz, or is it .tar.gz?
[00:49] <eggnogg> just .gz
[00:49] <xix4rrito> how can i see the server error log?
[00:50] <eggnogg> i think i just did it with gunzip filename
[00:50] <mcc> hm
[00:50] <Guest0589>  I removed my password from my user account because I found it really annoying to type it in for everything I wanted to install and do to my computer.
[00:50] <Guest0589> Now I can't authenticate anything. I go into my user account and it says "password none" and "automatic login on".
[00:50] <somsip> xix4rrito: what server? Apache?
[00:50] <mcc> in ubuntu 11 just now, i pressed a key combination (not sure what) and a tiny text entry box witha n orange border appeared in the bottom right of the screen
[00:50] <mcc> i'm not even sure that was ubuntu
[00:50] <overclucker> eggnogg: gunzip file.gz
[00:50] <mcc> it could have been virtualbox
[00:50] <mcc> any idea what that was
[00:50] <FloodBot1> mcc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <Guest0589> I'm able to log-in, just not install anything
[00:51] <escott> Guest0589, boot to single user rescue mode and reset your users password
[00:51] <Guest0589> escott: how do I do that?
[00:51] <timaaarrreee> escott: no there is noting in /var on the ramdisk
[00:53] <escott> Guest0589, when you are booting hit "esc" to get the grub menu, and then pick the rescue or single option. then you will have a root prompt and you can type passwd username (replacing username with your username) when that is done "reboot"
[00:53] <escott> timaaarrreee, don't think that was meant for me
[00:54] <Guest0589> escott: Thank you!
[00:54] <timaaarrreee> escott: you asked me if dmesg was in the initramdisk
[00:54] <escott> timaaarrreee, not the file. the binary, /bin/dmesg
[00:55] <gastronomixical> Can't anyone help me with rdp?
[00:56] <timaaarrreee> escott: ive never used the before. i thought you meant the 'messages' file
[00:56] <reisio> gastronomixical: done!
[00:57] <gastronomixical> hm?
[00:58] <wireladen> hello
[00:58] <reisio> gastronomixical: I grant you help
[00:58] <reisio> wireladen: hi
[00:58] <wireladen> reisio, hello
[00:58] <wireladen> reisio, and thanks in advance
[00:59] <wireladen> pm?
[00:59] <gastronomixical> reisio: okay... I'm trying to get ubuntu's rdp client to read Windows .rdp files, and it boots me out
[00:59] <reisio> wireladen: um, if you want
[00:59] <reisio> gastronomixical: which client?
[01:01] <phiil_> errrr.... can i use ghost a laptop that runs ubuntu?
[01:01] <arial_> I have a question about syncing an iPod touch with ubuntu 10.04.  What packages are necessary for this?  My situation is that after install of 10.04, my iPod was recognized by the system but not acknowledged by Rhythmbox.
[01:01] <Fudge> how can i tell oneiric to remember my rear mic setting instead of front
[01:02] <reisio> phiil_: hrmm?
[01:03] <reisio> arial_: what model iPod?
[01:04] <arial_> I have an 8GB iPod touch
[01:05] <phiil_> reisio: well when someone ghosts a computer i think that they competely copy the hard drive exactly to the other computer using a sata cable, is it possible to do that with a laptop when running ubuntu?
[01:05] <reisio> phiil_: yes
[01:05] <reisio> phiil_: you want to do it _to_ Ubuntu or _with_ Ubuntu?
[01:05] <hihaatje> is this the proper place to look for some help with ubuntu?
[01:05] <phiil_> umm
[01:06] <zulax> hihaatje, i believe so
[01:06] <phiil_> with ubuntu and to ubuntu between two computers
[01:06] <hihaatje> okay
[01:06] <phiil_> two laptops to be exact
[01:06] <reisio> phiil_: yes, however
[01:06] <reisio> phiil_: the Ubuntu OS itself is mirrored in thousands of places, so there's little reason to back it up, or make an image of it
[01:06] <Ra_> anyone know how to take a .pl file and make a desktop icon work?
[01:06] <Ra_> i am new to ubuntu
[01:07] <reisio> phiil_: it's more sensible to use to rsync to backup /home/
[01:07] <phiil_> oh yeah yeah that makes sense
[01:07] <reisio> full image backups are more useful with operating systems like Windows, which are booby trapped to only work on their originally installed-to hardware
[01:07] <phiil_> didnt think of that, never used rsync before
[01:07] <reisio> lovely app, rsync
[01:07] <reisio> though cp -a is frequently just as good
[01:07] <phiil_> heehe
[01:07] <wireladen> hotkey for opening terminal?
[01:08] <reisio> or tar -cvf home01.tar /home/ && cp home01.tar foo/
[01:08] <reisio> wireladen: CTRL+ALT+t
[01:08] <Skummel> ctrl + alt + t wiredvamp
[01:08] <wireladen> thanks my gui is screwed
[01:08] <wireladen> mouse wont work
[01:08] <phiil_> ok so just use cp to backup /home and im good to go!!!
[01:08] <reisio> phiil_: basically
[01:08] <reisio> though rsync is a little more elegant :)
[01:08] <phiil_> need a thumbdrive tho heeheehe
[01:08] <phiil_> yeah ill learn to use rsync
[01:08] <Ra_> desktop icon?
[01:08] <darren> Hello everyone
[01:09] <wiredvamp> ok? Skummel
[01:09] <Skummel> wrong tab
[01:09] <reisio> phiil_: it's basically just: rsync -av /home/ /mnt/some/other/place/home/
[01:09] <darren> I'm using Ubuntu in Rackspace CloudServers. And, I'm wanting to see how well they are performing
[01:09] <reisio> phiil_: if it's interrupted, just re-run it, it'll skip things it's already copied
[01:09] <milo_> Hi there everybody.
[01:09] <darren> Any tips?
[01:09] <wireladen> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[01:09] <wireladen> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:09] <hihaatje> I have just installed ubuntu 11.10 using the wubi installer, and all of the installation went just fine, but once i boot into ubuntu my mouse will work incorrectly (clicks wont register) but it will move. i am unable to click anything on the programs menu, almost as if it has the wrong program in the foreground. when i mash some buttons, it works, but once i open another program the same thing applies. is this a common error?
[01:09] <phiil_> ok sounds goood and cool
[01:09] <milo_> Can anybody recommend a good tutorial video for how to open Tar.gz files?
[01:09] <Skummel> wireladen what are you doing?
[01:09] <reisio> hihaatje: how many buttons on your mouse?
[01:10] <Ra_> is there anyway to get arround password?
[01:10] <reisio> hihaatje: scrollwheels typically count as three (forward/back/down)
[01:10] <hihaatje> 9
[01:10] <hihaatje> oh
[01:10] <Skummel> Ra_ password where?
[01:10] <hihaatje> then
[01:10] <wireladen> Skummel, trying to apt-get in non root user
[01:10] <hihaatje> 15
[01:10] <hihaatje> lol
[01:10] <reisio> hihaatje: heh
[01:10] <phiil_> reisio: rsync cant make an iso image out  of an OS can it?
[01:10] <reisio> hihaatje: X may be confused as to which of your 15 buttons is left-click
[01:10] <wireladen> Skummel, something happened and my persistent is all krazy.
[01:10] <reisio> phiil_: that isn't its purpose, no
[01:10] <Skummel> wireladen sudo apt-get
[01:11] <reisio> phiil_: you still want an image?
[01:11] <phiil_> yeah
[01:11] <reisio> phiil_: why?
[01:11] <hihaatje> reisio: okay, but it will be hard to install proper drivers without the mouse working
[01:11] <phiil_> cos i want ubuntu to feel like windows
[01:11] <reisio> hihaatje: give this a go: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Mouse#using_xinput
[01:12] <reisio> hihaatje: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:12] <arial_> How do you install programs without using the ubuntu software center?
[01:12] <reisio> phiil_: ...terrible? :p
[01:12] <wireladen> <my username> not in the sudoers folder
[01:12] <reisio> arial_: tediously
[01:12] <reisio> arial_: why do you ask
[01:12] <supuers> sudo apt-get install
[01:12] <phiil_> oh i now remember there being something that you boot from like a dvd with iso that makes an image or somehting for windows
[01:12] <wireladen> Skummel,  <my username> not in the sudoers file.
[01:13] <phiil_> maybe it will work for linux
[01:13] <hihaatje> Okay, i will now. thank you for the help, is there any way i can open terminal using the keyboard?
[01:13] <phiil_> ghosting i mean
[01:13] <neil__> hi
[01:13] <reisio> phiil_: an image of a device is an image of a device, the software shouldn't care what data is on it
[01:13] <phiil_> lol ghosting linux
[01:13] <phiil_> hhh
[01:13] <reisio> phiil_: but you'll be wasting your time I promise you
[01:13] <arial_> Let me rephrase my question; What does the software center actually do with the packages it receives?
[01:13] <reisio> you need only backup (via ordinary cp/rsync) your personal data, not the OS files
[01:13] <reisio> arial_: rephrase?
[01:13] <xangua> arial_: installs them¿
[01:14] <phiil_> yeah ok
[01:14] <arial_> Sorry- does that simply mean placing the files in the appropriate repository in the file system?
[01:14] <neil__> i  have a webserver behind firewall, i have set a virtual host , i try to view the site from another comuter behind the firewall on my lan, and it can not find  it,  does anyone can direct me to a place to read about this to debug it ? tx
[01:14] <xangua> hihaatje: control+alt+t
[01:14] <reisio> the reason it's useful to have image backups of Windows is because you have to pay for each copy of the OS files
[01:14] <Skummel> wireladen boot in recovery mode and add your user to the sudoer file
[01:14] <reisio> and the system is not portable to other hardware after installation
[01:15] <reisio> neither is the case with free Unixes
[01:15] <phiil_> ohhh i understand now
[01:15] <reisio> arial_: places precompiled binaries and other files where they belong in the filesystem, yes
[01:16] <greylurk> It is sometimes useful to have a ghost image that you can use to install a pile of apps with the same configuration on a bunch of different machines (say, in enterprise workstation builds)
[01:16] <reisio> yes, sometimes :)
[01:16] <wireladen> Skummel, brb
[01:16] <greylurk> I don't know what the linux answer to that is, though I'd say build yourself a repo, and learn dpkg.
[01:17] <greylurk> Or puppet.
[01:17] <arial_> reisio_: thanks.  Can you tell me what packages (or where to find them) are necessary to sync an ipod touch with lucid?  I removed "libimobiledevice0" by mistake.
[01:17] <xangua> arial_: to sync apple decives you need libimoviledevice
[01:17] <reisio> arial_: there's this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ipod%20touch
[01:18] <arial_> reisio_: thanks
[01:18] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have installed ubnutu 11.10 on a dell xps m1530 wit a nvidia 8M family graphic card , first everything was running normally but after i installed the proprietary drivers , unity fails back to 2D mode and gnome-shell do not start
[01:18] <ant0neo> can anyone assist? I need to get and install an application/x-gzip decoder plugin
[01:18] <troulouliou_dev> glxinfo report no problem
[01:19] <milo_> Hey there, could somebody walk me through a tar.gz installation?
[01:19] <darren> How do I monitor performance remotely?
[01:19] <reisio> milo_: of what
[01:19] <xangua> !compile | milo_
[01:19] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: revert to non-proprietary drivers
[01:19] <debugnet> milo_: from the command line do gunzip -cd [tar.gz file]|tar -x
[01:19] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: or try a different version of proprietary drivers
[01:19] <milo_> have a wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz file in my download folder. Havn't been able to get stuff done.
[01:20] <xangua> milo_: wicd is already on the repository
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, yeah i tried with th proposed 173 and the recomended 280 , still fail
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, if i remove thel then i will use mesa or nouveau ?
[01:20] <debugnet> milo_: then do a cd to the newly created directory and then ./configure or ./config depending on which is in the directory then finally a make and make install assuming no errors
[01:20] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: try running sudo nvidia-xconfig and restarting X
[01:20] <reisio> troulouliou_dev: nouveau probably
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> reisio, did that too
[01:20] <troulouliou_dev> ok
[01:21] <reisio> milo_: you want an older wicd?
[01:21] <milo_> gunzip-cd[tar.gzfile]:command not found
[01:21] <milo_> THere is a "bad password" message. I've read that installing the older version fixes the problem sometime.
[01:22] <debugnet> milo_: you have to use the file name that you saved
[01:22] <milo_> I don't know enough to get the original working. I'm new to Linux and nothing makes anysense.
[01:22] <supuers> have no issue using irc chat on laptop on my tower however it asks me if this is an ssl connection any ideas?
[01:22] <reisio> supuers: answer it?
[01:22] <milo_> People talk to me like I should know what they're talking about, but I'm not on here because I know what I'm doing.
[01:22] <milo_> So it can be confusing.
[01:23] <reisio> milo_: wicd-1.7.0 is in the repos, I'm not sure why you want to manually install it, let alone an old version
[01:23] <ant0neo> at least they talk 2 U milo:
[01:23] <debugnet> milo_: sorry about that, let me start from the beginning, do you have a terminal window open?
[01:23] <milo_> That's true.
[01:23] <milo_> At least they talk to me.
[01:23] <reisio> ant0neo: plugin?
[01:23] <justice> hey, building a computer and having problems starting it up anyone able to help me figure how to troubleshoot? I can't do anything useful with it but watch it post.
[01:23] <reisio> milo_: otis_
[01:23] <milo_> debugnet:Yes
[01:24] <reisio> justice: run the specs by #hardware, make sure you have the right power, etc.
[01:24] <milo_> I was just typing in the terminal window.
[01:24] <debugnet> milo_: where did you save the tar.gz file?
[01:24] <supuers> can you boot into the os at all
[01:24] <debugnet> milo_: if you don't know, no biggy i there is a way to find it.
[01:24] <milo_> home/milo/Downloads
[01:24] <ant0neo> application/x-gzip decoder plugin for the sound recorder
[01:24] <debugnet> milo_: k. from the terminal type: cd /home/milo/Downloads make sure you are case sensitive
[01:24] <milo_> file is: wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz
[01:25] <ant0neo> O cannot play a recording I just made on mumble platform as I dont have this plugin
[01:25] <milo_> Ok, I changed the directory
[01:25] <debugnet> milo_: from there type gunzip -cd wicd-1.6.2.tar.gz|tar -x
[01:25] <ant0neo> I appologise for my ineptitute in not knowing where and how to get such a simple thing as a plugin
[01:26] <milo_> Sorry if I come across as grumpy.
[01:26] <milo_> tar-x: command not found
[01:26] <greylurk> ant0neo application/x-gzip is a .gz file.  gzip is the app to read those.
[01:26] <milo_> gunzip-cd:command not found
[01:27] <debugnet> milo_: make sure you include the spaces in between where they go.
[01:27] <greylurk> milo_: forgot a space.
[01:27] <ant0neo> and that is available at Ubntu software centre? greylurk?
[01:28] <milo_> I copied and pasted what you typed and didn't get any "command not found" messages. Not sure where I messed up.
[01:28] <debugnet> milo_: good
[01:28] <greylurk> ant0neo - it's part of the standard base install.  just type gzip -d <filename>
[01:28] <debugnet> milo_: from there type ls -al to see if there is any new folders in there
[01:28] <ant0neo> thanks greylurk appreciated
[01:28] <milo_> Thanks again for helping by the way. Don't mean to take my frustrations out on you guys who are helping me out.
[01:29] <debugnet> milo_: no biggy i enjoi this stuff
[01:29] <milo_> No command 'ls-al' found, did you mean: Command 'lshal' from package 'hal' (universe)
[01:30] <DrPenguin> ls -al
[01:30] <DrPenguin> need a space in there
[01:30] <escott> milo_, "ls -al" with the space
[01:30] <greylurk> milo_ : You have to put a space between the command and the dash.
[01:30] <milo_> OH! There is a space there. My bad. Let's try that again.
[01:30] <supuers> debugnet any ideas on why xchat will not connect to server and asks if this is an ssl connection
[01:30] <milo_> Ha, ok, it gave me some stuff back. Sweet! Finally getting somewhere!
[01:31] <debugnet> milo_: what directorys (probably in blue) do you see in there?
[01:31] <debugnet> supuers: i am not to familiar with xchat cuz i use irssi but i would assume that you should be able to just connect anyway cuz this is not ssl
[01:31] <milo_> debugnet: Uhm, not sure. It says Bootdisk in blue and wicd-1.6.2 in blue
[01:32] <debugnet> milo_: k now type cd widc-1.6.2
[01:32] <milo_> should I try to do a pastebin thing?
[01:32] <supuers> okay thanks
[01:32] <debugnet> milo_: nah, i got what i need so far
[01:32] <milo_> bash: cd: widc-1.6.2: No such file or directory
[01:33] <debugnet> milo_: oops that was my typo wicd not widc
[01:34] <ubuntuser1> hello Ive been having problems trying to install the hp deskjet 3050 j610 because the driver is not found. Anyone has any experience working out this issue_
[01:34] <milo_> Oh, I should have caught that. My bad.
[01:34] <milo_> Ok, it's changed.
[01:34] <debugnet> milo_: you can use the up key to go back in commands you've typed and then use the left key to go back to the characters that you miss typed and then delete them as necessary
[01:34] <Tommy34> when I install Ubuntu, what exactly does Grub do, and where exactly does Grub write data?  to MBR and FAT? Or somewhere else?
[01:35] <milo_> Oh yeah. I forgot about that. That makes things easier.
[01:35] <debugnet> Tommy34: to mbr if you tell it to.
[01:35] <reisio> ubuntuser1: install hplip and hplip-gui
[01:35] <reisio> ubuntuser1: might be what you need
[01:35] <milo_> Oh, all these files are in my download folder.
[01:35] <ant0neo> greylurk: I typed type gzip -d and the file name that is in the sound recorder (mumble-1.2.3.tar.gz) into terminal and got gzip is /bin/gzip
[01:35] <ant0neo> bash: type: -d: not found
[01:35] <ant0neo> bash: type: mumble-1.2.3.tar.gz: not found
[01:35] <ant0neo>
[01:36] <forlas1> Hello, is there a policy anywhere that says how updates to packages work (ie if the package is broken in stable and needs an update, does it get pushed to stable or to the next release?)
[01:36] <reisio> Tommy34: GRUB tells the computer where the kernel/OSes are
[01:36] <ubuntuser1> reisio, thans
[01:36] <debugnet> milo_: from there type: ./config and then press the tab key and it should finish typing the rest or put a space after letting you know that it is correct (so that you know which one to use)
[01:36] <reisio> Tommy34: it's install to the MBR typically, which is just the very beginning of the disk that the OS doesn't use
[01:37] <reisio> Tommy34: though userspace utils and configurations are also required
[01:38] <milo_> Nothing happened when I pressed tab...
[01:38] <hihaatje> Hey, i tried what you said
[01:39] <dr_willis> Tab key is our friend. :) play with it and learn what it does..
[01:39] <milo_> debugnet: wait, if I put your name up it highlights what I type in red so you can see it better?
[01:39] <dr_willis> milo_:  thats a feature of the irc client. It highlits anyone that says dr_willis  (in my case)
[01:40] <debugnet> milo_: yep
[01:40] <milo_> debugnet: Whao, it says "Display all 2307 possibilities? (y or n)
[01:40] <dr_willis> milo_:  so hopefully your irc client highlights anyoen that says milo_
[01:40] <dr_willis> becuse you hit tab After a space...
[01:40] <debugnet> milo_: no
[01:40] <dr_willis> its completing 'everything' that matches..
[01:40] <milo_> dr_willis: That's pretty cool
[01:41] <dr_willis> tab key works in dozens+ other areas in bash also..
[01:41] <debugnet> milo_: could you do me a favor and paste the link to where you download the file so i can see the contents as well?
[01:41] <dr_willis> apt-get install foo<tab>    completes names for example.
[01:41] <Tommy34> so if I install Ubuntu,  Grub only writes itself to the MBR, and nowhere else?
[01:41] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  the grub boot record goes to the MBR. it then reads files from the /boot/ location to do the actual booting.
[01:42] <greylurk> Tommy34: Depends on your definition of grub, but mostly.
[01:42] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  grub normally goes to the MBR of the disk you are booting..
[01:42] <milo_> debugnet: https://launchpad.net/wicd/1.6
[01:42] <hihaatje> hey guys i was here just now, had a problem with ubuntu 11.10, when i run it the mouse would frequently stop working (as in not being able to click on anything). someone here thought it might have to do with my mouse having too much buttons and that i should try changing the button map with xinput. i tried that, but it didnt work.
[01:42] <Tommy34> dr_willis: so if you want to completely remove grub and have W7 boot as normal again, what do you do?
[01:42] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  have windows reinstall its bootloader to the mbr.
[01:43] <Tommy34> dr_willis: i dont have the W7 DVDs.  its only on my rescue partition and does a complete factory default.  Other suggestions?
[01:43] <supuers> or use the windows startup disk
[01:43] <Tommy34> i dont have a windows startup disk
[01:43] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  ms has download sites/iso images you can get to do recovery/repair options.. #windows would know more.
[01:43] <Tommy34> dr_willis: no they dont have any free isos
[01:43] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  yes they do...
[01:44] <dr_willis> they have small 'recovery/repair' iso images you can get.
[01:44] <Tommy34> dr_willis: they dont, and theres no link to one
[01:44] <dr_willis> legally and free last i checked. saw them mentioned on  Lifehacker a few months back.
[01:44] <Tommy34> dr_willis: Link?  cause I couldnt find any
[01:44] <ubuntuser1> reisio, I just installed the hplip-gui and hplip but cannot get the printer to work. It says that the driver is missing
[01:44] <extor> Is there a database of sha1 and md5 checksums for windows iso? I'm a bit leery of some of the ones shared on p2p
[01:44] <ubuntuser1> reisio, do you have any suggestions?
[01:45] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  no idea off hand. go to lifehacker site and check. or ask in #windows
[01:45] <greylurk> extor: Microsoft keeps the MD5's under wraps for just that reason.
[01:45] <Tommy34> dr_willis: thats exactly right, yoiu wont know cause it dont exist
[01:45] <greylurk> extor: but you could probably find someone in #windows that will help you out.
[01:45] <extor> greylurk, good grief are you serious!
[01:45] <aBound> Gotta love the workspace switcher in Unity.
[01:46] <reisio> ubuntuser1: is it an all-in-one?
[01:46] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  they definatly do. i downloaded and burnt them and have them in my toolbox.
[01:46] <extor> greylurk, I only want to test this Dell iso I downloaded for my precision...so actually MS wouldn't have the checksums most likely
[01:46] <ubuntuser1> reisio, yes
[01:46] <greylurk> extor: That's the impression I got.  If you have an MSDN license, they'll show you the md5s on the download page, but otherwise, you're expected to use the CD's you got.
[01:46] <reisio> ubuntuser1: well that's supported by hplip
[01:46] <Tommy34> dr_willis: if they did, you would provide a link, but you cant cause none exist.
[01:47] <ubuntuser1> reisio,
[01:47] <reisio> ubuntuser1: what Ubuntu version are you on?
[01:47] <greylurk> Tommy34: he's right, I just found them.
[01:47] <debugnet> milo_: this is a new one for me but here it goes, type: python setup.py configure
[01:47] <Tommy34> greylurk: really?link?
[01:47] <ubuntuser1> reisio, 10.04 LTS
[01:47] <greylurk> Tommy34: Try on #windows… They'll be able to point you to them.
[01:47] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  you havent even bothered to look.. i was about to paste the url from lifehacker..but im not going to bother now.
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: ah, okay
[01:48] <Tommy34> dr_willis: hatred and revenge is never the answer.
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: you need a slightly newer version of hplip
[01:48] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  neitehr is your attitude
[01:48] <supuers> upgrade your system
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: 3.10.9 or higher to be specific
[01:48] <extor> greylurk, I downloaded two dell isos and one of them had "custom" work that some smartass had thrown in
[01:48] <Tommy34> dr_willis: so do whats good, and pls give me the link.  Revenge is never healthy or good and achieves nothing. Thank you.
[01:48] <ubuntuser1> reisio, how can I get it?
[01:48] <justice> alas, #hardware is too engrossed in a conversation to help.
[01:48] <HaltingState> i need ubuntu server help; is there a channel
[01:48] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  go to lifehacker web site search for 'windows 7 recovery' like i just did.
[01:48] <Tommy34> dr_willis: im sorry for my attitude, pls forgive me :-)
[01:48] <reisio> ubuntuser1: upgrading to 11.04 or higher would manage it, otherwise you'd have to attempt to use a more recent hplip alone
[01:49] <Tommy34> dr_willis: ok
[01:49] <milo_> debugnet: ok...I see something in the text saying WHEREAREMYFILES
[01:49] <reisio> HaltingState: help with what
[01:49] <greylurk> extor: It's best never to trust commerical software ISOs from a torrent.
[01:49] <milo_> Don't know what that means
[01:49] <Tommy34> dr_willis: you mean ww.lifehacker.com.au?
[01:49] <dr_willis> its just lifehacker.com here
[01:50] <extor> greylurk, well he'd slipstreamed it but this is why I want those md5 or sha sigs
[01:50] <HaltingState>  help; during installation, it hit enter at the screen "install common servers" and did not select lamp/ssh; is there a tool i can run to have those installed or do i have to redo installation or
[01:50] <ubuntuser1> reisio, I tried to upgrade but after updating from the update manager I cannot see the option to do an upgrade. I also tried doing apt-get dist-upgrade but got nothing :(
[01:50] <Tommy34> when I type lifehacker.com it redirects to .ay
[01:50] <Tommy34> .au
[01:50] <debugnet> milo_: btw, i must have come in the middle of this but why are you trying to install wicd?
[01:50] <reisio> greylurk: or trust any ISO, even free ones
[01:50] <ant0neo> got there greylurk: via the responses others got thanks
[01:50] <reisio> why trust when you can check sums
[01:50] <HaltingState> *I hit enter and skipped the screen (i thought enter selected option) *face palm*
[01:50] <hihaatje> reisio: hey, thank you for helping me before with the mouse problem. i tried what you said (remapping the buttons) but this did not seem to fix it.
[01:50] <reisio> ubuntuser1: well that's a problem someone else in the channel will have to help you with
[01:50] <Tommy34> dr_willis: and when I type windows 7 recovery in search box, it finds nothing
[01:51] <reisio> hihaatje: got any other mice?
[01:51] <supuers> it should give you the option or just donwload 11.10 and upgrade from there
[01:51] <ubuntuser1> reisio, thanks
[01:51] <greylurk> HaltingState: You can install each of the requisite packages using "apt-get".  I.e. ssh is "sudo apt-get install openssh-server".  Or look in Ubuntu SoftwareCenter.
[01:51] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  ask about it in  #windows
[01:52] <Tommy34> dr_willis: nobody knows in there
[01:52] <dr_willis> lifehackers right side panel shows the serach hits.. and its acting weirdly in this browser.
[01:52] <hihaatje> reisio: yes, i tried another aswell, but when it was not doing anything but moving, it did not give any response when i used xev
[01:52] <benn1> dr_willis thats rude xD
[01:52] <hihaatje> reisio: so no buttons were registered at all
[01:52] <reisio> hihaatje: interesting
[01:52] <ubuntuser1> can anyone help me upgrading from 10.04 to 11.10? I know I need to go to other versions before 11.10 but after trying to upgrade from terminal I got nothing. I mean that when I do apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade there is nothing to upgrade
[01:52] <Tommy34> dr_willis: it didnt find anything for me in IE when I typed windows 7 recovery
[01:52] <reisio> hihaatje: different model/no. of buttons?
[01:52] <benn1> hey do you know where i can find my temp videos files of ubuntu
[01:52] <benn1> using flash player 11?
[01:52] <benn1> and firefox?
[01:52] <greylurk> reisio: I generally trust the torrents if I grab them from the main site (i.e. ubuntu.com) since the torrent protocol includes better error correction than paltry checksums, but checksums never hurt.
[01:52] <reisio> benn1: why
[01:53] <dr_willis> google first hit for 'lifehacker windows 7 recovery' also finds them it seems
[01:53] <ubuntuser1> I also tried updating everything using the update manager but the option to upgrade does not appear. Any suggestions?
[01:53] <xangua> benn1: you can use one of the various addons to download flash videos
[01:53] <supuers> you may have to go to 11.04 first
[01:53] <Tommy34> dr_willis: whats the direct link please?
[01:53] <reisio> greylurk: well, they work because you get the media from one place and the checksum from another
[01:53] <hihaatje> reisio: my mouse now is the Cyborg R.A.T.5, the other one i tried some crappy trust mouse with 10 buttons
[01:53] <benn1> xangua:not for all players or sites
[01:53] <reisio> hihaatje: okay, have you tried another USB or PS/2 port?
[01:53] <milo_> debugnet: Trying to get my wifi to work. Somebody on here told me they used Wicd. If you know any easier ways, I'm all ears.
[01:53] <benn1> i mean like watchcartoononline
[01:54] <benn1> i want to rip the video
[01:54] <benn1> i can do it in windows
[01:54] <reisio> benn1: do what
[01:54] <benn1> but not in ubuntu....i heard ubuntu can do it using flash 10
[01:54] <hihaatje> yup, i moved my mouse from back to front, and back again, still the same issue
[01:54] <greylurk> Tommy34: is your google broken?
[01:54] <reisio> benn1: http://www.downloadhelper.net/
[01:54] <Tommy34> dr_willis: I think this is the one? http://lifehacker.com/5384714/windows-7-recovery-discs-gets-your-system-out-of-tight-spots
[01:55] <reisio> hihaatje: do you have a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:55] <supuers> are u using a wired mouse
[01:55] <milo_> debugnet: I was actually gonna try to reformat my hard drive and put windows back on, but my muon software won't download, I can't figure out the torball files, can't burn an xp disk to reformat, can't get wifi working... you know
[01:55] <debugnet> milo_: could you type: iwconfig
[01:55] <hihaatje> reisio: im going to have to go back into ubuntu to check that. (since i cant do anything on there i have to go to windows to get here)
[01:56] <milo_> debugnet: ok, what info do you want?
[01:56] <kcj> How do I get my system to do nothing when my battery is apparently critical?
[01:56] <hihaatje> reisio: ill be right back
[01:56] <ubuntuser1> reisio, would you recommend upgrading to 12.04?
[01:56] <kcj> I'm on 11.10.
[01:57] <supuers> not out yet
[01:57] <reisio> ubuntuser1: insofar as it would make available to you the hplip version you require
[01:57] <Tommy34> dr_willis: are these files legal? http://cybernetnews.com/windows-7-recovery-disc/
[01:57] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  no idea. ask in #windows
[01:57]  * dr_willis imagines MS would shut them down rather quickly if they were not.
[01:57] <benn1> reisio just tell me you dont know where the temp files go
[01:58] <reisio> benn1: that would be a lie
[01:59] <benn1> then tell me where it goas
[01:59] <reisio> would be a waste of both our time
[02:00] <benn1> no i am learning from you
[02:00] <benn1> i can give you a information about sidefx houdini
[02:00] <ubuntuser1> reisio, thanks
[02:00] <benn1> or anything you dont know
[02:00] <reisio> if I wanted such information I would already have it :p
[02:00] <reisio> it's simplest to use a browser addon
[02:00] <reisio> and failing that, something like rtmpdump
[02:01] <waterDrop> which better Ext3 or Ext4 ?
[02:01] <benn1> your browser addon was awesome
[02:01] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  ext4 is the default these days..
[02:01] <benn1> but
[02:01] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  which works fine for most people.
[02:02] <justice> Am I hosed for having plugged in a gfx card before making sure the thing boots up since I now can't get the damn thing out?
[02:02] <waterDrop> ok thanks dr_willis, i wont hesitated no more
[02:02] <Anamika_> anybody some ideas on live cd
[02:02] <debugnet> milo_: does it list any wlan0 info?
[02:03] <milo_> debugnet: nah, don't see anything that says wlan just eth0, eth1
[02:03] <reisio> Anamika_: shaped like a cow!
[02:04] <waterDrop> could someone recommending me software for formatting Ext4 ?
[02:04] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdXX
[02:04] <bfri> how can switch back to original desktop gnome shell for ubuntu 10.04
[02:04] <dr_willis> waterDrop:  or use gparted..
[02:04] <escott> waterDrop, gparted gui very nice
[02:04] <xangua> bfri: 10.04 lucid uses gnome2, so there is no gnome shell
[02:04] <debugnet> milo_: k. for those two eth0 and eth1 does it list any extra info next to it like IEEE 802.11 etc or no wireless extensions?
[02:04] <escott> !classic | bfri
[02:04] <waterDrop> i'll try it
[02:04] <waterDrop> :)
[02:05] <justice> bfri: that's kind've going away, for annoying stupid political reasons.
[02:05] <Tommy34> dr_willis: how long you been a doctor?
[02:05] <Ryllez89> how i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?
[02:05] <waterDrop> thanks by the way
[02:05] <bfri> justice: what is going away?
[02:05] <debugnet> milo_: btw, is the actual wireless device usb or internal?
[02:06] <escott> bfri, gnome2 is no longer supported upstream
[02:06] <milo_> debugnet: eth0 no wireless extensions, eth1 IEEE 802.11 access point:not-associates
[02:06] <bfri> escott what will the effect of that be
[02:06] <debugnet> milo_: good. eth1 is your wireless interface name. that means we can work with this. now comes the hard part...
[02:06] <milo_> debugnet: internal
[02:06] <dr_willis> i wonder if the fallback modes will get removed in the next release.
[02:06] <debugnet> milo_: k
[02:07] <dr_willis> bfri:  basically gnome2 is dead.
[02:07] <justice> bfri: the gnome you're used to. my admittedly hazy understanding is that gnome got an ego and wants to push 3 on everyone, so Cannonical decided to build their own. The old Gnome forked into MATE, but i don't know that it's available in Ubuntu standard right now.
[02:07] <debugnet> milo_: do you know your wireless ssid name that you have setup for your wireless router?
[02:07] <milo_> debugnet: "Now here comes the hard part..." sounds ominous
[02:07] <debugnet> milo_: ;)
[02:07] <milo_> hmmm....
[02:07] <escott> bfri, 11.04 is the last version to have gnome2. you should check the gnome.org and extensions.gnome.org to get a feel for the replacement gnome3 aka gnome-shell
[02:07] <reisio> justice: not exactly
[02:07] <reisio> GNOME got a craving for cardigans
[02:07] <hihaatje> Reiso: I managed to log in from my phone, what file should I be looking for again?
[02:07] <milo_> debugnet: Damn, I took an internet security class a while back. That sounds familiar.
[02:07] <cappicard> hey folks. for some reason, many youtube videos are playing with this annoying blue tint... i'm running ubuntu 11.11
[02:07] <reisio> Canonical, not actually so much in the game of supporting software, embraced it, though with a specific reconfiguration (Unity)
[02:08] <reisio> as for MATE, forking is the easy part
[02:08] <reisio> the test is maintenance
[02:08] <debugnet> milo_: is your wireless router 802.11 a, b, g, and/or n ?
[02:08] <Ryllez89> how i remove the shortcuts in the side of "aplications" and "local" menu on gnome-classic?
[02:08] <reisio> hihaatje: for what?
[02:08] <justice> I did say that it was hazy. Something about GNOME flipping out and Canonical ditching them.
[02:08] <dr_willis> if gnome-shell was a bit more advanced at the time of release... we might of had gnome-shell as the default. :)
[02:08] <bfri> escott justice whats really stopping anyone from just reverting back to gnome 2 and below after the upgrade?
[02:08] <reisio> cappicard: what flash version?
[02:08] <reisio> Unity is "a" gnome shell
[02:08] <reisio> just not upstream's default one
[02:09] <escott> bfri, incompatible abi versions between gtk2 and gtk3. you cannot have both installed
[02:09] <hihaatje> Reiso: for the mouse not registering problem
[02:09] <cappicard> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:09] <reisio> hihaatje: ah
[02:09] <escott> bfri, at least not enough to be able to have the entire desktop stack working
[02:09] <reisio> hihaatje: oh, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:09] <dr_willis> Them Gnomes are Complex little beasties!
[02:09] <bfri> escott justice thing is i put the mac os gnome shell on but i want it out is there a simple way to revert back?
[02:10] <escott> bfri, i dont know what the "mac os gnome shell" is. but no there is no downgrade path
[02:10] <reisio> cappicard: you might want to revert to version <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:10] <justice> bfri: personally I just tried out, and fell in love with, sudu apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <cappicard> but i'm on 64-bit...
[02:10] <debugnet> milo_: if you don't know the answers to those off hand no biggy i can go from here.
[02:10] <reisio> cappicard: <IP_ADDRESS> is a beta (of software that tends to be buggy already)
[02:10] <reisio> cappicard: so?
[02:10] <cappicard> hrmm...
[02:10] <hihaatje> Reiso: there appears to be no such file
[02:11] <reisio> hihaatje: okay, probably not worth following up anymore, then
[02:11] <dr_willis> bfri:  theres the fallback/failsafe modes.. thats as far  as reverting goes basically.
[02:11] <bfri> escott justice really i dont know if im reffering to this appropriately but basically i made ubuntu look like mac
[02:11] <dr_willis> !fallback
[02:11] <Tommy34> dr_willis: how many hours per week, in general, do you spend in this channel?
[02:11] <dr_willis> Tommy34:  given my znc connection is up whenever my main ubuntu box is on... :) and i can irc from my cellphone at work...  quite a few.
[02:12] <escott> bfri, the new gnome-shell is done completely in javascript. if there is someone with the motivation to make it look like os x then its probably not going to be long until someone does. check extensions.gnome.org
[02:12] <dr_willis> it most likey seems like im here 90% of the time. dependng on the status of my znc server.
[02:12] <dr_willis> even if im not. :)
[02:12] <bfri> escott justice dr_willis thanks guys
[02:13] <Tommy34> dr_willis: :)  you sure have a lot of free time on your hands
[02:14] <dr_willis> The joys of a 'wait for somthing to break and hurry and fix it as fast as you can, and go back to waiting' job...
[02:14] <dr_willis> 7 hrs of boredom, 1 hr of 'is it done yet.....'
[02:16] <debugnet> milo_: type: route -n and send me the ip address for the gateway where the destination is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:16] <milo_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:16] <justice> augh this desktop is driving me insane.. I don't want to have to buy a whole new computer when I have all the parts for one in front of me
[02:16] <hihaatje> What is alt + tab for ubuntu?
[02:16] <escott> justice, what happens after post?
[02:17] <reisio> hihaatje: alt+tab
[02:17] <justice> The screen shows "no signal" and turns off.
[02:17] <debugnet> milo_: k. from firefox (or whatever web browser you are using) enter that into the url and hopefully it connects. if it does, then you are connected to your router.
[02:17] <hihaatje> Snap that isn't working
[02:17] <milo_> Debugnet: the server <IP_ADDRESS>:80 requires a username and password. The server says: E1000
[02:17] <escott> justice, what video card are you running off of?
[02:17] <reisio> justice: always, or after a certain part of booting?
[02:17] <debugnet> milo_: k. have you setup this router before?
[02:18] <dr_willis> justice:  at the grub menu you dont see anything?
[02:18] <justice> right after it posts and gives option to go to bios, etc. no matter what I chose to do or not do
[02:18] <justice> It doesn't even get to the grub menu.
[02:18] <milo_> debugnet: no, a person in the house who's taken a networking class has. But they also tried to setup an unsecured wireless just for me to use. Which you know what that means, they were trying to watch my traffic. So I don't want to ask them any questions.
[02:18] <reisio> justice: how'd you install the OS?
[02:18] <dr_willis> justice:  grub has a option to use a 'text' mode or lower res settings. that ive had to use on some machines.
[02:18] <dr_willis> justice:  but grub would still work.. you just couldent see it.
[02:18] <reisio> milo_: maybe they're just dumb :p
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> ello
[02:19] <milo_> debugnet: just dumb enough to get caught
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> hello
[02:19] <reisio> ControllerSYR: 'lo
[02:19] <justice> it's my old ubuntu box that got dismantled, shipped, then had to get some arts changed out
[02:19] <dr_willis> justice:  i got grub to play a little tune from its config file so im sure grub loaded. :)
[02:19] <reisio> justice: which parts?
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> eny body here
[02:19] <reisio> ControllerSYR: just us chickens
[02:19] <justice> new card is a diamond radeon hd 5450 ati.
[02:19] <reisio> justice: is the monitor plugged into it?
[02:19] <ControllerSYR> ok
[02:19] <milo_> debugnet: they went out of their way to set it up, they know two other people who work IT and I heard them talking about the stuff I was looking at.
[02:20] <ControllerSYR> can eny one here help me
[02:20] <justice> new case, new graphics card, had to get a wireless internet card
[02:20] <reisio> ControllerSYR: not until we know what your problem is
[02:20] <reisio> justice: that does not answer my question
[02:20] <debugnet> milo_: o k... well you can always invest in a vpn to fix that but i digress. how about we do a scan, type: ifconfig eth1 up then type: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[02:20] <ControllerSYR> wht is it ?
[02:20] <justice> yes. (well not atm because I have it unplugged to examine things)
[02:20] <reisio> ControllerSYR: exactly
[02:20] <milo_> I should make a note of that...vpn
[02:20] <debugnet> milo_: not cool.
[02:20] <reisio> justice: you're sure you plugged it into the new graphics card and not a port from the mobo?
[02:21] <dr_willis> reisio:  :) been there.. done that...
[02:21] <ControllerSYR> my problem is my ubuntu  9.10 dont accept update ?
[02:21] <xangua> !eol | ControllerSYR
[02:21] <milo_> ifconfig eth1 up, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[02:21] <justice> yes, i'm sure. I tried plugging it into the mobo but it didn't show me anything
[02:21] <reisio> dr_willis: :)
[02:21] <ControllerSYR> he tell me there is a problem in network
[02:21] <milo_> degubnet: ifconfig eth1 up, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[02:21] <reisio> justice: okay, what card was it again?
[02:21] <debugnet> milo_: soz, sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[02:21] <justice> new card is a diamond radeon hd 5450 ati.
[02:22] <debugnet> milo_: must be root
[02:22] <justice> the old card was, I forget but it was nvidia
[02:22] <reisio> justice: do you get a signal if you boot from an Ubuntu live image?
[02:23] <justice> Don't think so. I'll have to see what image I actually have on that stick though.
[02:23] <reisio> you really should
[02:23] <reisio> otherwise maybe the PCI slot is damaged
[02:24] <hihaatje> What can I do about ubuntu telling me i do not have enough rights to overwrite something?
[02:24] <reisio> or it's an incredibly obscure (and therefore incredibly poorly supported) device
[02:24] <reisio> hihaatje: sudo
[02:24] <justice> doing that now. I hope the slot isnt damaged, I can't get the card out of it. =(
[02:24] <Resistance> hihaatje:  nothing, because it means that whatever you're trying to overwrite isnt owned by you :P
[02:24] <benn> another and last question..i installed my ubuntu using wubi in windows..And how can i access my windows files using ubuntu
[02:24] <reisio> justice: you can't?
[02:24] <ControllerSYR> ok i understud but is there eny way for update to a new ubuntu
[02:24] <reisio> justice: that's not the best sign that it was put into the slot properly in the first place
[02:25] <reisio> (or alternatively: that it is actually meant for that slot type)
[02:25] <justice> It won't remove with reasonable force. it LOOKS like it fits right, but it acts like it's wedged against the case and won't tilt back to come loose.
[02:26] <milo_> degubnet: ok, I typed sudo before it and it went through it looks like
[02:26] <ControllerSYR> thank you !
[02:26] <dr_willis> benn:  check 'mount' command output.. i belive the windows drives are mounted to some dir /host or somthing like that.
[02:26] <reisio> hard to say without feeling it, kind of a tactile thing
[02:26] <reisio> but generally it shouldn't be that hard to get cards in and out, if they are meant to fit with one another, and were properly connected
[02:26] <justice> It snapped into place without too much trouble, but I tried pulling it to test integrated and no luck.
[02:26] <milo_> debugnet: soz?
[02:26] <reisio> aside from really poorly designed or compact cases that just make it hard, of course
[02:26] <dr_willis> pcie cards have some locking tab ive seen...
[02:27] <reisio> hmmm
[02:27] <dr_willis> at least some do :)
[02:27] <escott> justice, is there a latch at the base of the card? have you released that
[02:27] <dr_willis> or was that agp? i cant rember...
[02:27] <milo_> debugnet: Oh, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soz
[02:27] <debugnet> milo_: means sorry
[02:27] <rcmaehl> Compiz randomly restarts on my pc. What could be causing that and is there any info I can provide to you all to help diagnose the problem. Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit
[02:27] <reisio> if it were me, I'd be more confident that the card was inserted properly if I could take it out and put it back in and have it feel the same
[02:27] <escott> dr_willis, i dont think agp had it. i think it started with pci-e
[02:27] <justice> there is a latch, but it doesn't seem to do anything. the card hooks in behind it and does not come straight out.
[02:28] <dr_willis> i just rember that locking tab.. becuase i had a mb with one that was broken.. you couldent unlock it without a screwdriver. :)
[02:28] <dr_willis> I had to push on a tabon the mb slot. to remove the card.
[02:28] <debugnet> milo_: i like how it says 'illiterate' but do it cuz it short, maybe lazy though
[02:28] <reisio> you push it away from the slot
[02:28] <reisio> in the direction of the side the tab is on
[02:28] <reisio> or down, depending
[02:29] <debugnet> milo_: any luck with the scan?
[02:29] <justice> it's on the side of the port on the board.
[02:29] <dr_willis> I havent even opened the case on the new desktop box i bought like 3 mo ago...
[02:29] <blackbox> does anybody know of a site that you can type in a word and it will speak it to you / give you the definition and synonyms? My spelling a pronouncation is terrible. I think being a good speller is linked to being able to pronounce correctly.
[02:29] <dr_willis> :)
[02:29] <reisio> pfft
[02:29] <reisio> honestly
[02:29] <reisio> never even heard of a PCI card falling out
[02:29] <reisio> not sure why they need tabs
[02:29] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:29] <reisio> I suppose they could help with bumpy transportation, though
[02:29] <reisio> unfortunately you're beyond that, heh
[02:30] <justice> yeah me either. :p
[02:30] <reisio> FloodBot1: poll speed too slow
[02:30] <sokak> Hi everyone :)
[02:30] <dr_willis> Ive seen some cases that use annoying 'quick locks' for cards instead of actual screws. so ive seen them get loose in the back.. but never fall out where they failed.
[02:30] <milo_> debugnet: nothing came up
[02:30] <reisio> sokak: hiyo
[02:30] <milo_> debugnet: but I didn't get any error messages back
[02:30] <debugnet> milo_: try one or two more times, sometimes they don't come up right away
[02:31] <justice> this has a screw, but I can't pull the side that screws up high enough to release the hook shaped bit on the card.
[02:31] <sokak> question: im on an ancient eeepc 901 (the one with 20gb ssd) and i picked the wrong drive to put on grub. Now the grub rescue is garing at me, what should i do?
[02:31] <milo_> debugnet: meh, nothing doing
[02:31] <dr_willis> Night all...
[02:31] <reisio> sokak: boot up the live media, run grub-install /dev/properdevice
[02:31] <sokak> Nite :D
[02:32] <milo_> debugnet: can my conversation on here be tracked since I'm on a wired connection?!
[02:32] <Pickleface> on 11.10 how do I take something I put on the top bar out?
[02:32] <sokak> thanks reisio, looking to that
[02:32] <reisio> sokak: or possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair if the aforementioned fails
[02:32] <salty> how do i mount a usb hardrive that has been removed from a windows box without unmounting it?
[02:32] <reisio> salty: hrmm?
[02:33] <debugnet> milo_: yep, since it isn't ssl or through vpn or ssh, if they have the tools, they can do it.
[02:33] <Pickleface> reisio: how do I remove something I put on the top bar ? like those clicky button things if you know what I mean
[02:33] <psusi> salty, what?
[02:33] <debugnet> milo_: ask them if they've heard of backtrack...again i digress
[02:33] <reisio> Pickleface: would assume you right-click them
[02:34] <salty> reisio, i copied some files to a windows computer and didn't unmount the drive before removing it... now it doesn't show up in ubuntu
[02:34] <Pickleface> reisio: only launch and property options come up when right clicked.
[02:34] <justice> I dunno, I get the feeling i'll need to unscrew the mobo to get the gfx card out.
[02:34] <milo_> debugnet: fuuuuuu... that sucks. Oh well. Explains why they're in their room so much. Going through my info. Damn it.
[02:34] <sokak> justice, while doing so clean the dissipator with compressed air :) Just prevent the fan spinning :)
[02:35] <psusi> salty, plug it back into windows and chkdsk it
[02:35] <escott> salty, if it is ntfs boot windows and run chkdsk on that drive
[02:35] <psusi> salty, or scandisk
[02:35] <justice> dissipator?
[02:35] <psusi> whatever microsoft is calling it these days
[02:35] <Fizzy> hi..i just installed ubuntu the first time
[02:35] <sokak> salty, it doesnt come up neither in disk management?
[02:35] <salty> i don't have a windows box... it was my little brothers
[02:35] <Fizzy> really loving it was wondering if someone could help me out with some things
[02:35] <salty> let me check
[02:35] <sokak> shoot Fizzy
[02:35] <justice> Fizzy: Like what?
[02:36] <Fizzy> thank you
[02:36] <debugnet> milo_: sucks i know.
[02:36] <Fizzy> so i installed it on my laptop
[02:36] <psusi> salty, then plug it back into your little brother's windows box and chkdsk it
[02:36] <Fizzy> its an asus UL30A
[02:36] <justice> sokak: I cleaned it pretty thoroughly before I started
[02:36] <Fizzy> the fn keys used to control volume and brightness barely seem to work they are super slow!!.. for example i sent the command 5 minutes ago and im still recieving osd of it recieving it
[02:36] <reapingwo> hey can anyone give me a hand in trouble shooting my wireless card?
[02:36] <salty> psusi, that's not possible... i'm sailing in the chesapeake bay
[02:37] <reisio> salty: to be clear, as soon as you plug it in you should get a prompt to check it
[02:37] <debugnet> milo_: no luck with the wifi scan?
[02:37] <Fizzy> i installed ubuntu before and removed it for this reason
[02:37] <milo_> debugnet: nope, hasn't done anything. WPA2 security would be nice...
[02:37] <Fizzy> so thought i would give it a second shot
[02:38] <brophat> is there an email notifier app that comes with 11.10
[02:38] <milo_> debugnet: back in 3, smoke break
[02:38] <debugnet> milo_: k
[02:39] <brophat> can that envelope icon at the top be configured for email notification?
[02:40] <justice> odd.
[02:41] <Fizzy> it does seem weird because i experience no slow down in the system itself
[02:41] <justice> ok, my screwdriver is too short, this is going to need to wait a bit, grmbl.
[02:42] <Fizzy> still getting the OSD of brightness..
[02:42] <fokkle> brophat, here's something someone wrote in python.  Haven't used it myself:  http://arnab.org/blog/evolution-email-notification
[02:42] <justice> fizzy: i'm not sure what would cause that, personally.
[02:43] <Fizzy> any other way i can control brightness?
[02:44] <sokak> wooot reisio, that link was cool!
[02:44] <brophat> fokkle so that envelope app on the top right does do email notification?
[02:44] <reisio> sokak: do the trick?
[02:45] <Pickleface> can anyone help me? I cant remove a button from the top and its really annoying.....
[02:45] <fokkle> brophat, no, sorry, not as far as i know.  I just thought you might want to try the python workaround.
[02:45] <sokak> its working, lets cross fingers :D Using the supergrub disk wasnt an option, im too lazy to plug in the usb cdrom xD
[02:45] <justice> I know there is one, I have to get rid of it a lot since dimming the monitor never seems to work for me.
[02:45] <brophat> fokkle thanks
[02:45] <fokkle> Pickleface, you can't right-click, remove?
[02:45] <justice> not because of anything technical, just because I can't see very well. :?
[02:45] <fokkle> brophat, no prob.
[02:46] <Fizzy> i hate it when the screen is too bright
[02:46] <Fizzy> hurts my eyes.. so whats the way to control it?
[02:46] <reisio> Fizzy: install xcalib, run xcalib -i -a
[02:46] <reisio> or xgamma
[02:46] <justice> yeah, well, I get irritated if turning on my living room light doesn't leave afterimages of people burned into the paint.
[02:46] <reisio> or fix your power management/graphics driver issues
[02:47] <reisio> I use xcalib with a perfectly working display and power system, though
[02:47] <HaltingState> how do i install gui on ubuntu server so i can remote desktop in
[02:47] <reisio> HaltingState: you could just use ssh
[02:47] <HaltingState> reisio, I could
[02:48] <Fizzy> thanks.. im updating software as we speak
[02:48] <Fizzy> hopefully it will do something
[02:48] <HaltingState> reisio, i want to see what remote desktop is like
[02:48] <reisio> HaltingState: it's like adding an enormous ton of software each with its own potential for having a security vulnerability
[02:49] <reisio> HaltingState: that said, the default Ubuntu desktop metapackage is called 'ubuntu-desktop'
[02:49] <sokak> reisio, i owe you a beer!
[02:49] <reisio> sokak: yes you do
[02:49] <reisio> a keg of beer
[02:49] <benn> its not working i tried loging in su then pass..And i dont know how to mount the ntfs to get files in windows
[02:49] <sokak> ill bring a truck of beer reisio, if you live in italy ;P
[02:49] <reisio> benn: do what?
[02:50] <reisio> sokak: if I lived in Italy I would be busy being fawned over by all the hot exploited women there
[02:50] <benn> get files in windows 7 using ubuntu
[02:50] <sokak> reisio, then ill bring you my cousine ;P
[02:50] <TooR4u> Hi .. i want to export my chat history from one gmail account to another email account is that possible?
[02:50] <HaltingState> reisio, security risk?  the password for my user and root account over ssh is "password", but its ok because I have not set port forwarding for SSH on the server yet
[02:50] <reisio> benn: the drive isn't auto-mounted? (check Nautilus, or ls /media/)
[02:50] <reisio> sokak: good man
[02:51] <reisio> TooR4u: ask #web
[02:51] <reisio> HaltingState: :p
[02:51] <debugnet> milo_: unfortunately you will need to talk to your IT friend and have him help with getting the ssid so you can continue from here. i have a feeling he may have turned ssid broadcast off so you can't find it and the password is preventing you from getting it yourself.
[02:51] <milo_> debugnet: ok, thanks for the help
[02:52] <sokak> reisio, ill add another cousine if you can suggest a lightweight replacement for unity :P
[02:52] <reisio> sokak: unity 2d? lubuntu-desktop? (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde)
[02:52] <sokak> reisio, you made my day u.u
[02:53] <reisio> that's what reisio's are for
[02:53] <benn> reisio tried ls /media. and it says :System Reserved
[02:53] <debugnet> milo_: i can give you this, once you have the ssid type the following: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid {ssid they gave you} and then give it about 5-10 seconds and then type iwconfig eth1 and see if has an access point, if so type sudo dhclient3 eth1 and you are good. if not, you might be out of range.
[02:54] <debugnet> Milos_: oh, your welcome
[02:54] <Milos_> huh?
[02:55] <reapingwo> what does it mean if my connection appears to drop occasionally (firefox stops connection, downloads pause) but ubuntu still says I am connected and I can still ping websites by name?
[02:55] <reapingwo> and to fix my connection, all I need to do is disconnect and reconnect
[02:56] <reapingwo> any ideas on how to start troubleshooting this?
[02:57] <FlavioTrashPunk> tem punk aqui hoje??
[02:57] <reisio> FlavioTrashPunk: #ubuntu-br
[02:58] <kj4> hello i am amazed by ubuntix
[02:58] <kj4> now i hate windows
[02:58] <reisio> kj4: wee
[02:58] <FlavioTrashPunk> reisio, vlw.. tenks
[02:58] <fokkle> reapingwo, what/how is it that you disconnect/reconnect?  Cable, ifdown & up, or what?
[02:58] <kj4> it is so much better, but how is it free?
[02:58] <fokkle> I mean are you plugging it in again?
[02:59] <reapingwo_> sorry I fixed it
[02:59] <reisio> kj4: by its devs not requiring money for it
[02:59] <reapingwo_> I click on the wireless icon and click on the network
[02:59] <benn> reisio you ignored me for the first time
[02:59] <reisio> benn: ?
[02:59] <reapingwo_> it disconnects me and reconnects
[02:59] <kj4> reisio: thank you its devs
[02:59] <fokkle> reapingwo_, that'll do it ;)
[02:59] <benn> reisio:tried ls /media. and it says :System Reserved
[02:59] <reapingwo_> its a wireless connection
[03:00] <reisio> benn: ah
[03:00] <reisio> benn: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[03:00] <kj4> what is an ubuntard?
[03:00] <compitz> hi guys
[03:00] <reisio> kj4: my guess would be it's a pejorative for an ubuntu user/who is not smart
[03:00] <reisio> compitz: hiyo
[03:00] <reapingwo_> fokkle, I was wondering if there was an error log that kept track of network trafic that could point me to the problem
[03:00] <kj4> reisio: oh
[03:00] <bono> hi hi
[03:01] <reapingwo_> Irc stays connected as well
[03:01] <compitz> i need some help cause im most desperate with my blank screen on startuo in 10.4 lucid
[03:01] <reapingwo_> my downloads and webpages just stop loading
[03:01] <reapingwo_> ping also works
[03:01] <reisio> reapingwo_: IRC takes precious little connection
[03:01] <Pickleface> fokkle: no
[03:01] <vekin> should 11.10 live be able to see sata ahci ssd?
[03:01] <fokkle> reapingwo_, i'm not sure the best place to look but you can start with "dmesg tail"
[03:01] <Pickleface> fokkle: the only options I have are launch and properties
[03:01] <sokak> reisio, im having random weird lines once in a while on login screen. What i should pick for updated intel drivers, the xswat ppa or what else?
[03:02] <vekin> nevermind
[03:02] <fokkle> or look at /var/log/syslog....
[03:02] <reisio> sokak: dunno, haven't used intel in some time
[03:02] <compitz> i need some help cause im most desperate with my BLACK screen on startup on 10.4 lucid
[03:02] <sokak> reisio, ty anyway :)
[03:02] <reapingwo_> would a search for the connection name (i.e. wlan0) in syslog yield useful results?
[03:03] <fokkle> Pickleface: strange, i can't reproduce that, even when i lock the launcher...
[03:03] <Pickleface> fokkle: erm well I'm using 11.10 with the gnome theme ?
[03:04] <Pickleface> fokkle: I'm talking about the top bar where you can make little buttons if that makes sense ?
[03:04] <fokkle> reapingwo_, you can try it, maybe "cat syslog | grep wlan"
[03:04] <Pickleface> fokkle: shall I screenshot ?
[03:04] <fokkle> Pickleface: i know what you mean but i'm not sure the screen shot would help.  remove doesn't appear, right?  not just grayed out?
[03:05] <Pickleface> fokkle: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/859/screenshotat20111229220.png/ if it does help, erm yeah I dont see remove...
[03:05] <reapingwo_> fokkle, thanks for that command, one of the linux commands I knew about but not how to use :D
[03:05] <kj4> was ubuntu made from zeros and ones also?
[03:06] <reapingwo_> should I put that in pastebin for people to read?
[03:06] <Pickleface> fokkle: the bar where filezilla and firefox is , erm..I only see launch and properties :S
[03:07] <compitz> can somesone help? i need to get a terminal on startup but my display is shut down
[03:07] <fokkle> Pickleface: beats me.  try a reboot?
[03:08] <Pickleface> fokkle: okay
[03:08] <c_smith> compitz, have you tried ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[03:08] <fokkle> kj4: there were a few 3s and 4s thrown in to make it interesting.
[03:08] <kj4> fokkle: oh man, thats probably why it's so much better
[03:08] <fokkle> reapingwo_, sure lets have a look.
[03:08] <kj4> fokkle: i think thats how my 4G phone works too
[03:09] <fokkle> kj4:  that's right.  enjoy the goodness.
[03:09] <reapingwo_> fokkle, I think some of it got cut short how do I grab all of it?
[03:09] <compitz> c_smith, yes i did, i aslo tried f6, other f-keys, e and held shift, no matter what i type screen stay black
[03:09] <reapingwo_> too long to print all in the terminal
[03:09] <c_smith> hmmmmm, then it could be either your monitor is shot, or you GPU is shot.
[03:10] <c_smith> compitz, that was at you.
[03:10] <fokkle> reapingwo_, try this:  "cat syslog | grep wlan0 > ~/Desktop/syslog.txt
[03:10] <fokkle> reapingwo_, that should get you a file you can copy/paste from.
[03:10] <Ra_> is there a fix for a tied up cpu?
[03:11] <reapingwo_> thanks again for the new commands fokkle, I am taking notes :D
[03:11] <c_smith> Ra_, short of doing a hard reboot, I don't believe so.
[03:11] <c_smith> Ra_, but I could be wrong.
[03:11] <compitz> c_smith, its a graphics driver problem, i deleted nvdia to try the open source one, then it turned out 10.4 lucid had a bug with the grub, a solution described in http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/securitymonkey/black-screen-on-boot-with-ubuntu-104-lucid-lynx-solution-38426
[03:11] <Ra_> thx
[03:12] <reapingwo_> http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw
[03:12] <c_smith> compitz, then you may need to do a fresh install, as it looks ike something went very wrong.
[03:13] <compitz> c_smith, now i edited grub manually to "nomedeset" in the mounted hd, but i couldnt run update-grub , because on my encrypted hd, because  it was the live-cd-terminal
[03:14] <compitz> c_smith grub to "nomodeset"
[03:14] <Youngfun> hi all
[03:15] <c_smith> compitz, I don't know what to say, if you're having problems doing update-grub, I don't know what to suggest short of reinstalling Ubuntu, as update-grub is my only other option for fixing that.
[03:15] <hamed> hi can any know how can i switch from xfce to unity
[03:15] <compitz> now the big question, c_smith, is how i can run update-grub without a terminal on startup
[03:15] <c_smith> hamed, you can run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and keep the xfce as an alternative.
[03:16] <compitz> c_smith, can i mount the hd and pretend im root so i can run it?
[03:16] <reapingwo_> not to be impatient but just wanted to make sure fokkle saw this
[03:16] <reapingwo_> http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw
[03:17] <c_smith> compitz, impossible to run a terminal on startup without know whether it actually started. and can't run it from grub, but GRUB2 DOES have a built-in command editor.
[03:17] <c_smith> compitz, do you see GRUB at the start?
[03:17] <fokkle> reapingwo_:  i'm looking at it and i see the ip-config unavailable, just not sure what to make of it yet.
[03:17] <hamed> thank you very much
[03:17] <fokkle> reapingwo_, there are other references online...
[03:17] <c_smith> hamed, no prob
[03:18] <fokkle> reapingwo_,  but not sure the culprit.  could be network manager but i hate to say reinstall when i don't know for sure yet.  let me look a little more..
[03:18] <compitz> c_smith, all i see is my screen going black, like when i shut down my pc
[03:18] <compitz> c_smith, what do you mean by GRUB?
[03:18] <c_smith> compitz, GRUB is the bootloader.
[03:18] <kj4> i thought it was lunch
[03:18] <diegoviola> OMG, GRUB2 loopback feature is so COOL
[03:18] <compitz> c_smith, yes i do
[03:19] <diegoviola> anyone tried it?
[03:19] <reisio> diegoviola: heh
[03:19] <c_smith> compitz, gimme a second, gonna see if I can get the button you press to halt the bootup.
[03:19] <diegoviola> relurk: xD
[03:19] <diegoviola> err
[03:19] <compitz> c_smith, ok, thx. i also see lucid loading, but when it should come to the welcome screen, or just before, it shuts down
[03:20] <c_smith> compitz, Lucid is 10.10, correct?
[03:20] <compitz> c_smith , 10.4
[03:20] <reapingwo_> fokkle, To warn you I was also having similar trouble with windows 7.  But they said it was windows update sending malformed ARP packets that was causing errors on my router.  Turning off windows update and factory resetting the router fixed it however.
[03:20] <c_smith> compitz, ah, ok, LTS ftw, eh?
[03:21] <reapingwo_> perhaps its a hardware problem with the network adapter?
[03:21] <compitz> c_smith, yeah i like it
[03:21] <Youngfun> hi everyone
[03:21] <Youngfun> I'm new on Ubuntu
[03:21] <compitz> hi Youngfun
[03:21] <fokkle> reapingwo_, could be.  but do you have this issue at other wireless aps?
[03:21] <fokkle> reapingwo_, also are you by any chance running kde?
[03:22] <compitz> welcome, Youngfun^^
[03:22] <reapingwo_> I only have the one router, but everything else connects to it fine including a couple mac books and my android phone
[03:22] <c_smith> compitz, ok, try pressing esc as soon as you see GRUB, you should be able to edit the bootup command from there with the "e" key.
[03:22] <reapingwo_> I have just vanilla ubuntu 11.10
[03:22] <Youngfun> I have Ubuntu 11.10 installed on VM Parallels Desktop (Mac host), but cannot install parallels tools... somebody knows about Parallels Desktop?
[03:23] <kj4> xubuntu is awesome
[03:23] <c_smith> compitz, this would only be temporary I believe, so run the commands you intend to after you get in.
[03:23] <compitz> c_smith, im a newb. what does screen say when i see GRUB?
[03:23] <sokak> Anyone happened to plug in an usb thumbdrive, just to see that its seen in the disk management, but says "No medium inserted" (as it was just a flash card reader?)
[03:23] <compitz> c_smith, circa?
[03:23] <fokkle> reapingwo_, ok, do you want to try reinstalling network manager?  it is known to be problematic....
[03:23] <c_smith> compitz, it's the short purple screen just after the BIOS screen.
[03:24] <Youngfun> maybe it's better if I ask Parallels support....
[03:24] <compitz> esc, damn havent tried this
[03:24] <fokkle> reapingwo_, i'm just more inclined to blame netman than the nic.
[03:24] <compitz> c_smith, esc, damn havent tried this
[03:24] <c_smith> compitz, and the BIOS usually has the manufacturer logo of the mainboard/PC.
[03:24] <c_smith> compitz, not surprising, it's easily overlooked.
[03:24] <kj4> xubuntu users differ from ubuntu users
[03:25] <c_smith> compitz, and it's not too well known with new linux users.
[03:25] <paulsomebody> Hello, sentient life forms. Can anyone tell me from experience if CompizConfig manager still ruins desktops when ran as of version 11.10?
[03:25] <compitz> ah k, so grub says ubuntu and i see some glistening dots? c_smith?
[03:25] <Pickleface> erm rebooting dident work
[03:25] <Youngfun> what's xubuntu? ubuntu with xfce?
[03:25] <c_smith> is there a timer?
[03:25] <Pickleface> how do I remove a icon from the top bar ? I dont see a delete button only launch and properties
[03:25] <paulsomebody> compitz: Maybe you would know, judging from the nickname?
[03:25] <compitz> c_smith, when loading the os?
[03:25] <almoxarife> reapingwo_: it may be one of two things, weak signal from the place you want to connect to, or you receiving is crap
[03:25] <ironfoot495> Hi I'm having a problem with screen resolution  it will display a dell 19" but not my 37"akia?
[03:25] <LucidGuy> email/postfix people around? simple question..  In regards to security, the main conf options to have correct would be mynetworks= ?  This is where you can allow networks to relay off of you..?
[03:25] <c_smith> compitz, a timer anywhere
[03:25] <c_smith> if not, just press e
[03:26] <compitz> c_smith, timer?
[03:26] <OerHeks> paulsomebody, yes offcourse it ruin your desktop, mine not however
[03:26] <reapingwo_> fokkle, I do have another wireless adapter which got better reception on win7 but I need to ndiswrapper the drivers, looking it up now
[03:26] <compitz> paulsomebody, did you mean me?
[03:26] <fokkle> almoxarife: maybe you can make something of this.  it's from his syslog:  http://pastebin.com/A2iuZNxw
[03:26] <c_smith> compitz, from you not knowing tells me there isn't, it's a timer ticking down to loading the selected OS.
[03:26] <ironfoot495> can someone help me with this???
[03:26] <paulsomebody> OerHeks: I do not think I understood you quite well. You do not use Unity?
[03:26] <paulsomebody> compitz: Yes, that was a joke.
[03:27] <c_smith> compitz, just press "e"
[03:27] <xangua> paulsomebody: if yoy move things you should not, yes; you can always reset unity
[03:27] <OerHeks> unity runs fine
[03:27] <Youngfun> i hate the GUI of ubuntu 11.10
[03:27] <ironfoot495> I've changed the grub file to 1024x768 but when it boots it comes back with not support?
[03:27] <OerHeks> unity runs better with a SSD
[03:27] <compitz> c_smith, when I see the loading screen? (=GRUB) do i get this right?
[03:27] <Youngfun> maybe kubuntu has a better GUI?
[03:27] <michalchik> What is unity?
[03:28] <c_smith> compitz, yes.
[03:28] <compitz> paulsomebody, didnt get it
[03:28] <ironfoot495> but it see the 19" great!
[03:28] <c_smith> compitz, that's the GRUB I am talking about.
[03:28] <compitz> c_smith, thx a lot, ill try
[03:28] <almoxarife> fokkle: you want to give me a line number of the paste that you are most concerned about?
[03:28] <fokkle> michalchik:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[03:28] <paulsomebody> OerHeks: xangua: No, I did not mean that. I have read reports that merely running CompizConfig as of 11.10 may corrupt some config files and make X impossible to start. Is this true in your, or anyone else's experience?
[03:28] <urlin2u> michalchik, a desktop
[03:28] <c_smith> compitz, no prob, let me know if you need more help with editing the command.
[03:29] <compitz> c_smith sry for asking twice
[03:29] <paulsomebody> compitz: I have a question about Compiz, you nickname is 'compitz'; I though it was a nice pun.
[03:29] <ironfoot495> I've also install the proprietary driver and still no sucess.
[03:29] <michalchik> I have a weird problem that I thinkis Ubuntu realted.
[03:29] <urlin2u> paulsomebody, you can mess with compiz but find a web link it will look like its broke when you start clicking stuff.
[03:29] <compitz> c_smith, i hope sudo update-grub is enough to gimme som light
[03:29] <[[webrat]]> any updates?
[03:29] <[[webrat]]> yes i have the same issues
[03:29] <michalchik> I just added the text to voice addon to firefox
[03:29] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: Okay.
[03:29] <fokkle> almoxarife, take a look at 63--ipconfig unavailable...
[03:30] <[[webrat]]> i got this machine not working with the latest compiz
[03:30] <[[webrat]]> x64 arch
[03:30] <compitz> paulsomebody, like mingling what two words^^?
[03:30] <michalchik> It is activated by pushingthe button in the bootom bar of the firefox window
[03:30] <c_smith> compitz, I wouldn't run that in GRUB, just edit it with the lines you need to get it running.
[03:30] <rcmaehl> Compiz randomly dies on my pc. Is there any info I can give to help diagnose the problem? Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit
[03:30] <paulsomebody> compiz: Yes, like that. Never mind.
[03:30] <c_smith> compitz, and then run update grub when you login in a terminal.
[03:30] <michalchik> but the version of firefox that came with ubunto does not sem to have a bottom bar
[03:31] <fokkle> almoxarife: take a look at line 63--"ip-config-unavailble"
[03:31] <fokkle> almoxarife, sorry, double post...
[03:31] <almoxarife> fokkle:  herpanet-g <-- tell me about it? yours? hotspot? you control it?
[03:31] <compitz> c_smith, the intended line is already edited: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash” Replaced with: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”nomodeset>”, like http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[03:32] <compitz> c_smith, like http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ told me
[03:32] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[03:32] <c_smith> compitz, then it should run properly after you start it up.
[03:32] <fokkle> almoxarife:  no, it would be reapingwo_'s.  his ap, i guess.
[03:32] <fokkle> reapingwo_:  you still with us?
[03:32] <compitz> c_smith , it doesnt. i suppose because i could run update-grub
[03:33] <Pickleface> how do I remove a icon from the top bar ? I dont see a delete button only launch and properties
[03:33] <c_smith> compitz, you edited it from GRUB directly. try booting up, and let me know what happens.
[03:33] <compitz> c_smith , it doesnt. i suppose because i could NOT run update-grub
[03:33] <Pickleface> fokkle: reboot did not help
[03:34] <michalchik> Does anyone know why this version of firefox doesn't have a bottom bar?
[03:34] <fokkle> Pickleface: not sure what to suggest, then.  you could try booting to console, then remove, reinstall the desktop maybe.
[03:34] <compitz> c_smith, didnt edit anything from GRUB directly, what would that be?
[03:34] <Pickleface> fokkle: would reinstalling the theme do it ?
[03:34] <urlin2u> michalchik, right cloick the top bar then addon bar
[03:35] <urlin2u> click
[03:35] <fokkle> Pickleface: i wouldn't think so.  i don't think the theme has any influence on whether you can remove a launcher from the panel.
[03:35] <fokkle> Pickleface: but give me a minute.  let me see if there's another way to edit the launchers there.
[03:36] <[[webrat]]> any news with the latest compiz? i still haven't got the issue resolved aftering installing it on my latest machine
[03:36] <michalchik> right clicking the top bar does not seem to do anything.
[03:36] <[[webrat]]> i got this asus and the compiz effects is having some issues loading
[03:36] <c_smith> compitz, that would be editing the command while in GRUB using the "e" key
[03:36] <compitz> c_smith, do you get it, or dont i ?
[03:36] <c_smith> compitz, get what?
[03:36] <compitz> c_smith, sry
[03:37] <Pickleface> fokkle: okay
[03:37] <compitz> c_smith, i guess editing the commandline is not necessary anymore, cause i did that on the hd?
[03:37] <michalchik> OK found it
[03:37] <c_smith> possibly.
[03:37] <michalchik> Second from the top bar, selct addon bar
[03:37] <c_smith> did booting up work?
[03:37] <michalchik> Thanks
[03:38] <compitz> c_smith, i havent tried, you confused me a little, dont wanna do anything wrong here
[03:38] <reapingwo_> fokkle, sorry about that I am writing a letter at the same time as I do this lol, has to be in the post tomorrow hence my distraction
[03:39] <c_smith> compitz, ok, try continuing to boot up into Ubuntu and see if it works.
[03:39] <c_smith> compitz, let me know the result.
[03:40] <compitz> c_smith, when i get a terminal you said you wouldnt run update-grub; say there will be a terminal, what am i suppossed to do?
[03:40] <Duker> Anyone know how to solve the overscan issue when using intel hd graphics 3000 with an hdmi out?
[03:41] <c_smith> compitz, no, I said I wouldn't recommend using that as a boot param, it was a misunderstanding on my part.
[03:41] <c_smith> compitz, go ahead and run it when you get in.
[03:41] <reapingwo_> herpanet-g is my e3200 cisco-linksys router
[03:42] <compitz> c_smith, and by "boot param", you mean an entry in the grub file?
[03:42] <reapingwo_> its dual band the -g denotes 2.4 ghz band
[03:42] <c_smith> compitz, yes.
[03:42] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: OerHeks: Okay, I have found the report of the issue I was talking about. http://askubuntu.com/questions/66079/compiz-crash-means-launcher-and-almost-everything-else-has-disappeared-from-desk
[03:42] <fokkle> Pickleface: you're on ubuntu 11.10?  this is unity?
[03:42] <c_smith> compitz, but run the update-grub command in a terminal when you boot up just to be safe.
[03:42] <reapingwo_> I started a RMA with cisco because of the original problem on win7 but since turning off windows update it seems to have been fixed
[03:43] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: OerHeks: Now, let's see if it affects me. :)
[03:43] <c_smith> compitz, did it boot up?
[03:43] <compitz> c_smith, ahhhhh ok. Finally clear to relaunch now. thx for yor patience withme
[03:43] <reapingwo_> windows 7 was sending malformed arp packets causing the router to keep on handing me escalating ip addresses
[03:43] <c_smith> compitz, no prob,
[03:43] <Pickleface> fokkle: yeah I switched it to gnome.
[03:43] <reapingwo_> which then used up all available addresses
[03:44] <reapingwo_> atleast thats what some guy on the internet told me ;)
[03:44] <compitz> c_smith , ill see, this will take some minutes, if it wont work, itll take like 15 mins, till im back
[03:44] <c_smith> compitz, ok
[03:44] <compitz> c_smith, anyway thanks, ill try now^^
[03:44] <c_smith> compitz, like I said, no prob
[03:44] <urlin2u> paulsomebody, to be honest it works fine for the cube and other plugins you just have to know what to do, how to restart it when it goes south while tweaking, find a web page that tells you how to do it.
[03:45] <fokkle> Pickleface: well hell, I want to find an easier fix here, but I'm coming up empty.  don't know what to suggest but remove, reinstall.
[03:46] <Pickleface> fokkle: reinstall the whole OS ?
[03:46] <fokkle> reapingwo_: that's crazy.  i understand it, but that's crazy.
[03:46] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: Common sense and sanity is implied and necessary, but is not at all what I was talking about. Read the link I sent you — CompizConfig sometimes automatically disables the Unity plugin when you first run it. :) No user action necessary.
[03:46] <fokkle> reapingwo_: i once had a dsl modem/router that would only hand out one ip address on dhcp, which is worse but only a little.
[03:47] <fokkle> Pickleface: oh hell no.  just the desktop.
[03:47] <cjs> Why do we have a package that installs /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 instead of ruby1.9?
[03:47] <fokkle> Pickleface: let me check the command but I think it should be "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" but let me check...
[03:47] <cjs> Is that a standard Debian thing? What about compatability with, say, CentOS systems?
[03:47] <urlin2u> paulsomebody, never experienced that and I have been using it for a couple of years. Just from a quick look it seemed like users who just are a bit noobish .
[03:47] <reapingwo_> fokkle, part of installing ubuntu was to make sure the problem is software and not the router itself
[03:47] <Pickleface> fokkle: okay, thanks
[03:48] <reapingwo_> because it is out of warranty but they said its a hardware defect so they will honor the rma
[03:49] <fokkle> reapingwo_:  ah, i see.  i assume you've already been through the routers dhcp settings--range to assign, etc.
[03:49] <fokkle> reapingwo_: especially the lease time....
[03:49] <reapingwo_> fokkle, yeah, although I just did a factory reset, but everything looked right
[03:50] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: This is generally true, but not I don't think this is the case right now. I have read it happen to not-so-noobish users as well.
[03:50] <fokkle> reapingwo_: hmm.
[03:50] <paulsomebody> urlin2u: Anyway, I have ran CCSM and it did not kill anything just yet. :)
[03:51] <reapingwo_> lease time is at 24 hours
[03:51] <fokkle> reapingwo_: someone brought up signal strength.  any chance you could be competing on the same channel with near neighbors, maybe switch the router to another?
[03:51] <fokkle> reapingwo_, or are you pretty sure that this is dhcp?
[03:52] <xubuntu> help, how do i make all new windows open at the center?
[03:52] <Pickleface> fokkle: find out the cammond ?
[03:52] <reapingwo_> well it was dhcp with win 7, whats the ubuntu version of inSSIDer?
[03:52] <reapingwo_> or whatever lets me see which networks are on which channels
[03:54] <lalagirl> hi
[03:55] <lalagirl> is anyone alive?
[03:55] <DrPenguin> im kinda alive
[03:55] <paulsomebody> !ask | lalagirl
[03:55] <vmangudi`> looks like abt 6 billion are alive
[03:56] <fokkle> Pickleface:  i think you'll remove gnome with "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" but I'd like to be sure.  I'm on an earlier version so gnome is default and that would be right.  but I'm not sure how it is after unity is default.
[03:56] <fokkle> Pickleface: i just don't want to steer you wrong....
[03:56] <lalagirl> Okay, so I have a question. Now I have an Ubuntu computer, but I can't seem to connect to it from outside my local network.
[03:56] <paulsomebody> lalagirl: vmangudi`: And that number is steadily growing at the rate that have spawned concerns about overpopulation.
[03:56] <lalagirl> paulsomebody that's really nice
[03:57] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: so your trying to remote into it?
[03:57] <paulsomebody> lalagirl: What are you using to connect to it?
[03:57] <Siph0n> When I visit a webpage that isn't up, it just keeps clocking, trying to connect to it... This happens in firefox and chrome in ubuntu.... So i dont think it is browser related. It does not happen in windows 7 firefox (gives connection reset error). Does anyone know how to get ubuntu (or firefox) to stop trying after a time?
[03:57] <lalagirl> DrPenguin paulsomebody: I'm trying to connect to it as in… like...
[03:57] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: we need to know the protocol
[03:57] <lalagirl> DrPenguin paulsomebody: go to a website and connect to it
[03:58] <DrPenguin> like telnet.. ssh... etc
[03:58] <paulsomebody> DrPenguin: lalagirl: Are you trying to open a folder share?
[03:58] <lalagirl> DrPenguin ssh … anything
[03:58] <Corey> lalagirl: Did you forward ports to it?
[03:58] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: tried pinging it from another computer?
[03:58] <lalagirl> i opened the whole DMZ
[03:58] <Corey> lalagirl: Can you access it from the LAN?
[03:59] <DrPenguin> Corey: port forwarding shouldnt be needed if shes accessing it locally
[03:59] <fokkle> Pickleface:  do this.  login to unity desktop> go to software center> search gnome-shell > select remove.  that should remove it safely.
[03:59] <lalagirl> DrPenguin I want to access it outside my local network
[03:59] <Pickleface> fokkle: how do I login to unity desktop ?
[03:59] <lalagirl> DrPenguin I want it to work outside my local network
[04:00] <lalagirl> DrPenguin but it doesn't conenct
[04:00] <DrPenguin> ah, I misread
[04:00] <lalagirl> connect*
[04:00] <DrPenguin> yeah you gotta port forward
[04:00] <fokkle> Pickleface: log out of your desktop session, then when you log in again, select unity from a dropdown box that should appear along the bottom of the screen.
[04:00] <lalagirl> But I already opened all of the ports already! I opened the whole DMZ
[04:00] <Pickleface> ah ok
[04:00] <DrPenguin> opening ports and forwarding ports arent the same
[04:01] <DrPenguin> when you forward a port, the request goes from your external ip to the local ip that the port is being forwarded to
[04:01] <lalagirl> DrPenguin okay, let me clarify… i've opened and forwarded all the ports
[04:01] <DrPenguin> are you forwarding to the right local ip?
[04:01] <lalagirl> i can ssh inside my local network but i can't outside it for some reason
[04:01] <lalagirl> i can't even visit my own website
[04:02] <lalagirl> outside the network
[04:02] <Corey> lalagirl: Residential IP?
[04:02] <lalagirl> and yes, it is to the right ip
[04:02] <Corey> lalagirl: Sure they're not filtering 22 inbound/
[04:02] <Corey> ?
[04:02] <lalagirl> Corey what do you mean by "residential IP"?
[04:02] <Corey> lalagirl: That question means "yes, you're on a residential IP."
[04:02] <Corey> Check with your provider, they may be filtering port 22.
[04:03] <lalagirl> Corey my ISP?
[04:03] <Corey> As a part of their "no servers" policy.
[04:03] <Corey> Imagine that.
[04:03] <lalagirl> Corey omg its the ISP all along?!?!?
[04:03] <Corey> lalagirl: Possibly. Try binding to an alternate (high) port and see if the problem goes away.
[04:03] <Chr|s> I am having issues with waking my my computer after I am away for 20 minutes. Clean install  ubuntu 11.10
[04:04] <thechris> Anyone know how to get a usb wifi adapter to work in linux
[04:04] <lalagirl> Corey how would i be able to do that?
[04:04] <thechris> it is dual band, and doesn't show any AP's
[04:04] <thechris> Both my roku and laptop (also dual-band) have no issue finding the AP, which is about 2m away
[04:05] <fokkle> Pickleface:  take a look at this: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xTketT17548/Tc3r18TqTDI/AAAAAAAAAIk/pqVSSnyEDcI/s1600/regular-ubuntu11.04-desktop.png   You should have some kind of choice there between the 2 desktop environments you have installed and should be able to choose unity vs gnome.
[04:05] <Corey> thechris: Is the driver being detected? Check dmesg.
[04:05] <Pickleface_> fokkle: yep, im on unity now
[04:05] <thechris> Corey: the driver is detected, and iwconfig shows a wlan0
[04:05] <Pickleface_> fokkle: how do I uninstall the gnome ?
[04:05] <Corey> thechris: What chipset?
[04:05] <Pickleface_> I forgot the intructions you gave me earliar XD
[04:05] <fokkle> Pickleface: go to Applications>software center.
[04:06] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: change the ssh port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:06] <thechris> It appears to be a ralink based chipset
[04:06] <superuser> I haven't gotten support yet so I'm reasking as it has be a reasonable amount of time since I last asked.
[04:06] <superuser> Compiz randomly dies on my pc. Is there any info I can give to help diagnose the problem? Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit. My GPU is a Nvidia Geforce 440 (fermi).
[04:06] <fokkle> Pickleface: then type "gnome desktop"
[04:06] <Corey> !wifi
[04:06] <Corey> Whee.
[04:06] <ok_wait> msg nickserv identify manager23
[04:06] <ok_wait> nice
[04:07] <share> nice lol.
[04:07] <ok_wait> lol
[04:07] <lalagirl> are you sure changine the ssh port will allow me to connect to it?
[04:07] <share> ok_wait: go to #freenode
[04:07] <share> ;)
[04:07] <thechris> Corey: be more specific
[04:07] <fokkle> Pickleface:  you should see it somewhere on the list of results, marked as installed.
[04:07] <Hakase> oh wow
[04:07] <Hakase> I knew someone was going to do that
[04:07] <lalagirl> because its not only about ssh… it's about connecting to the server and having it load the webpage
[04:07] <urlin2u> superuser, have you tweaked compiz, and if there any other specificities post them.
[04:07] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: if your ISP is blocking port 22, they might allow the higher port. am not sure, but can try
[04:08] <Hakase> that's why it's not a good idea to accidentally type in your nickserv password into an IRC channel with like
[04:08] <Hakase> almost 1400 people in it
[04:08] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: well, they could be blocking port 80 as well
[04:08] <lalagirl> why are they doing this to me??!?!?!
[04:08] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: pbly nothing personal
[04:10] <lalagirl> hey it seems like my ISP is blocking the ports.....
[04:10] <lalagirl> OMG I'm so angry now...
[04:10] <lalagirl> it says it in http://www.optimum.net/Terms
[04:10] <lalagirl> if you scroll down to 22. Aditional Restrictions
[04:10] <Corey> lalagirl: Okay then.
[04:10] <thechris> Anyone know how to get a wifi connection set up using the command line
[04:10] <DrPenguin> glad comcast doesnt block me..
[04:10] <Pickleface_> fokkle: I dont see the gnome theme
[04:10] <alejandro> how do you view all hidden files in kubuntu?
[04:11] <lalagirl> it says that "Users may not run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;" and "Users may not register or point a domain, sub-domain, or hostname to any Optimum Online IP address. Moreover, Users may not have traffic redirected to the Optimum Online Service;"
[04:11] <DrPenguin> ls -a will list hidden files
[04:11] <Corey> lalagirl: This is no longer a Ubuntu issue. :-)
[04:11] <lalagirl> hey i have a question…..................
[04:12] <Corey> !ask | lalagirl
[04:12] <lalagirl> if I get Optimum Online Boost or whatever it says "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums." does that mean that i can't access FTP?
[04:12] <A|i3N> What do I need to install to get an older gravis PC GamePad to work under Ubuntu? It's using the radio shack USP adapter.
[04:13] <DrPenguin> lalagirl: you can access one that your not hosting
[04:13] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: you can access FTP *from* optimum online. But you cannot run a FTP server.
[04:13] <fokkle> Pickleface_: try searching "ubuntu desktop system"  but if/when you find it, click on more info to try to see whether that's gnome.
[04:13] <lalagirl> OMG this is even more frustrating.
[04:13] <lalagirl> all i ever wanted was to run my own server......
[04:13] <edbian> lalagirl, if you want to run an ftp server just set it up on a non-standard port
[04:13] <ok_wait> why would gnome-tweak-tool only change the window title font but not any of the others? i'm using oneiric with gnome-shell
[04:14] <lalagirl> like?
[04:14] <alejandro> how do i list all hidden files on Dolphin file manager?
[04:14] <edbian> lalagirl, 3000
[04:14] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: looks like you can run a http server
[04:14] <Pickleface_> fokkle: dont see it..
[04:14] <edbian> lalagirl, yeah, or set it up on port 80
[04:14] <share> Should I worry? http://i.imgur.com/B9rGZ.png http://i.imgur.com/Whspz.png Can I fix it?
[04:14] <edbian> lalagirl, that's guaranteed to work
[04:14] <ok_wait> Defualt font, Document font and Monospace font
[04:16] <alejandro> how do i list all hidden files on Dolphin file manager?
[04:17] <fokkle> Pickleface_: then try at the command line "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"  that should remove the desktop, though you might find yourself at console afterward.  if so, just issue this command "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  then at least you can get back to where you were.  and you can try changing the panel again.
[04:17] <ubuntufreak> Hi i am having issue with my Ubuntu 11.10 installation, my unity does not work and on issuing the 'unity --reset' command i get the following message  http://paste.ubuntu.com/787497/
[04:18] <urlin2u> ubuntufreak, you don't use sudo
[04:18] <ubuntufreak> urlin2u, the same message is shown without sudo too
[04:20] <urlin2u> ubuntufreak, have you run unity -reset the rebooted?
[04:20] <urlin2u> then
[04:21] <ubuntufreak> urlin2u, no should i reboot after running the command ?
[04:21] <A|i3N> ok let me rephrase my question. I just figured out my gamepad works just fine. IS there a way to use it in a browser such as on a retro gaming site. lol
[04:21] <lalagirl> hi I'm back.
[04:22] <KinGDaViD63> what up what up peeps
[04:22] <edbian> A|i3N, yeah, if it works use evdev to map it to asdw and such for the game
[04:22] <urlin2u> ubuntufreak, I would... compiz is funky does not refresh well at times. Sometimes just logging out works, IO have the fusion-icon on the resktop as a launcher it restarts conpiz
[04:23] <fokkle> Pickleface_: any joy?
[04:23] <thechris> anyone familiar with ralink firmware?
[04:23] <thechris> specifically, how-to
[04:23] <A|i3N> ahhHh ok Thank you Edbian. :)
[04:24] <urlin2u> !wifi | thechris
[04:24] <edbian> A|i3N, sure
[04:24] <ubuntufreak> urlin2u, ok would try to reboot now
[04:24] <thechris> urlin2u: |grep firmware
[04:24] <thechris> oh, nothing
[04:24] <lalagirl> Okay. So it seems as though I am using Optimum Online Residential… What I should have been running is Optimum Online Business.
[04:24] <lalagirl> That is why the ports are blocked from my ISP and therefore do not work outside my local network.
[04:24] <edbian> lalagirl, why pay for ports to be opened?  Just use non-standard ports
[04:25] <iToast> ello
[04:25] <iToast> Hello*
[04:25] <iToast> Can Ubuntu watch all traffic on my network.
[04:25] <edbian> lalagirl, They don't block things about like 1024  (those below 1024 are standard)
[04:25] <iToast> Just log specific things
[04:25] <monstaRtruck> hey guyz
[04:25] <lalagirl> edbian I want people to access my website. In order for that to happen, I need port 80 to be opened, right?
[04:25] <monstaRtruck> im in buntu 1110 on my mac air 2011
[04:25] <edbian> lalagirl, port 80 is one that is open on optimum (at least that's what you said)
[04:25] <edbian> lalagirl, but yes
[04:25] <monstaRtruck> full rez will lit keys
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> woohoo
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> this is bad ass
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> how do i place unity bar at the bottom
[04:26] <monstaRtruck> can i get macbuntu for 11.10
[04:26] <edbian> monstaRtruck, if you're trying to get a mac look get something besides unity running (awn for the dock)
[04:26] <urlin2u> monstaRtruck, ask that question in google and you will see the sites telling how.
[04:26] <lalagirl> edbian that's only for optimum online "Users may not run any type of server on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums;" for optimum online boost "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums"
[04:26] <lalagirl>  and for optimum online boost, "Users may not run any servers except for a webserver (HTTP) and mail (SMTP) on the system. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, POP, SOCKS, SQUID, DNS or any multi-user forums."
[04:27] <edbian> monstaRtruck, you cannot move the unity bar
[04:27] <edbian> lalagirl, i read that wrong
[04:27] <lalagirl> wooops… the message was cut off.
[04:27] <iToast> lalagirl: !pastebin
[04:27] <fokkle> iToast, no, you can only capture from your own computer's nic, unless you connect to a hub (not a switch) connected to your router or have an enterprise-type switch with port mirroring.
[04:27] <iToast> fokkle: What if I sit in the middle.
[04:27] <lalagirl> i don't need pastebin for that
[04:27] <edbian> lalagirl, that's ok.  so you do not have 'online boost' ?
[04:27] <urlin2u> edbian, there is a hack to move it to the bottom.
[04:27] <edbian> urlin2u, oh, didn't know that!
[04:28] <lalagirl> edbian no, i just have the regular optimum online… not optimum online boost
[04:28] <monstaRtruck> no i use mint
[04:28] <lalagirl> edbian sucks for me...
[04:28] <monstaRtruck> and macbuntu with cairto
[04:28] <urlin2u> edbian, not very pretty at least iIthought so.
[04:28] <edbian> lalagirl, They may have put that in their policy but it is possible they are not blocking this ports
[04:28] <edbian> urlin2u, mhmmm
[04:28] <fokkle> iToast: well, you could set up an ubuntu box to route, with 2 nics, and have the 2nd one go back to a switch.  but it'd be a fair amount of trouble to set up...
[04:28] <vyadhaka1> I am having trouble installing LVM over LUKS on a GPT drive. Has anyone had any success
[04:28] <lalagirl> edbian does your ISP block port 80?
[04:28] <monstaRtruck> can i get macbuntu for 11.10?
[04:28] <edbian> lalagirl, nope: ednovak.net
[04:29] <edbian> lalagirl, they are blocking port 53
[04:29] <thechris> Anyone familiar with wireless in ubuntu and specifically "firmware" for usb devices?
[04:29] <lalagirl> edbian you lucky ....
[04:29] <thechris> and if you're going to !wifi, at least point out where I should look, as "firmware" doens't appear
[04:29] <edbian> lalagirl, yes, well.  optimum apparently sucks
[04:29] <vmangudi`> lalagirl: you can get webserver hosted for a low price... 3-4 bucks a month
[04:29] <edbian> thechris, what card do you have?
[04:29] <edbian> thechris, it's a usb dongle?
[04:30] <lalagirl> edbian i feel like punching myseld
[04:30] <lalagirl> myseld
[04:30] <lalagirl> myself
[04:30] <urlin2u> thechris, have you looked here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:30] <edbian> lalagirl, I think it will be ok
[04:30] <edbian> :P
[04:30] <lalagirl> edbian to punch myself?
[04:31] <edbian> lalagirl, I think punching yourself is unnecessary as it will not result in optimum opening ports for you for free.
[04:31] <edbian> lalagirl, Did you want to run httpd or ftpd ?
[04:31] <lalagirl> i'll be back
[04:31] <monstaRtruck> anyone here using macbuntu
[04:31] <edbian> oh ok  goodbye
[04:31]  * edbian uses linux, not mac
[04:33] <LOVenkrands> buenas noches
[04:33] <edbian> thechris, you there?
[04:33] <thechris> yes
[04:33] <LOVenkrands> im 24 from spain
[04:34] <Corey> lalagirl: If you want to run servers, either get a VPS or a business class connection.  You're on a residential connection, with a residential level of service.
[04:34] <edbian> thechris, what card is this?  Do you know how to figure this out?
[04:34] <thechris> this is a rt2800usb device, asus usb-n53
[04:34] <thechris> I'm apparently supposed to firmware
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, what exactly does  lsusb call it?
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, yeah, we need firmware / drivers.  The trick is figuring out which packages it is.  That's where I can help.
[04:35] <thechris> there really isn't much more information, like what I should do with the firmware
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, does the usb device show up in the output of lsusb ?
[04:35] <edbian> thechris, do you know how to run lsusb?
[04:36] <edbian> thechris, I don't know what firmware/driver/package we need to install without more info
[04:36] <thechris> lsusb calls it "asustek computer, inc", on dev 2,7
[04:36] <edbian> thechris, can you pastebin the line?  paste.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <vyadhaka1> goleff
[04:36] <edbian> thechris, where did yo uget rt2800 from?
[04:36] <thechris> form lsmod
[04:37] <edbian> thechris, rt2800 must be a driver...
[04:37] <edbian> thechris, please pastebin the output of lsusb -v   paste.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <thechris> edbian: that computer isn't connected to the internet
[04:38] <edbian> thechris, oh :(  how about can you just give me the one line about this device from lsusb ? the entire line without altercations
[04:39] <thechris> bus005, device 002: ID 0b05:179d ASUSTek Computer, Inc.
[04:39] <edbian> thanks
[04:39] <martian> Aloha! I have the following command in my rc.local script, but it doesn't seem to be working. It works find if I manually run it as root though. How can I sort out why it's not working? /bin/su - martian -c "ssh -f -L 1139:localhost:139 my.remote.host -N"
[04:40] <edbian> thechris, it was the 0b05:179d I needed
[04:40] <thechris> and same for bus 002, device 007, except  it is 179c
[04:40] <jmscomtech> is it possible to change the audi out put to 64 ohms rather than standard 32 at all?
[04:41] <jmscomtech> i have a soundcard with a builtin amp that does 64 ohms wich boosts the sound volume but in ubuntu i find i cant get there
[04:41] <jmscomtech> in windows the software boosts the sound
[04:42] <edbian> thechris, I'm not sure that's the wifi card?
[04:43] <edbian> thechris, if you run sudo iwlist scan   do you get any wifi networks in the output?
[04:43] <thechris> edbian: the verbose outptu lists it as an 802.11 WLAN
[04:43] <edbian> thechris, what verbose output?
[04:43] <matthewofencinit> Hi, I'm trying to extend my desktop across two monitors. Anybody help? I'm ignorant, so if you need more info say so. Thanks
[04:44] <thechris> edbian: from lsusb -v
[04:44] <edbian> thechris, ahh, ok good sign
[04:44] <thechris> edbian: iwlist scan -- wlan0 has no scane results
[04:44] <edbian> thechris, what about sudo iwlist scan ?
[04:44] <edbian> thechris, what exactly does it say?   does it say 'network is down?'
[04:44] <thechris> no, just "no scan results"
[04:45] <edbian> thechris, Then, I think the card is working, and there are no wifi networks near you.
[04:45] <thechris> edbian: no, there are 2 dozen networks by me
[04:45] <edbian> thechris, mmm, ok
[04:45] <thechris> edbian: my laptop is on one of them
[04:45] <edbian> thechris, ok
[04:48] <edbian> thechris, sudo modprobe rt2500usb
[04:48] <paulsomebody> monstaRtruck: I do not know what about MacUbuntu, but you can get Unity at the bottom.
[04:49] <edbian> thechris, I'm piecing this together from this page: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers
[04:49] <edbian> thechris, Except I can't figure out what chipset this thing is
[04:50] <phenom> question: What is the best way to sync desktop environments? I'd like to have the same spitting image across multiple pc's. rsync/csync home dir?
[04:50] <edbian> thechris, e.g. RT2571  or RT2770
[04:50] <thechris> i think it is rt2870
[04:50] <monstaRtruck> macbuntu 1010 will work on 1110
[04:50] <edbian> thechris, based on what?  what about sudo modprobe rt2500usb  ?
[04:50] <monstaRtruck> nothing new
[04:51] <paulsomebody> monstaRtruck: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html Pretty please, express your though coherently and use punctuation next time. :)
[04:51] <thechris> edbian: based on wikidev, which lists it as "probably rt2800 or 2870sta"
[04:51] <thechris> http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_USB-N53
[04:51] <monstaRtruck> acshuly
[04:51] <monstaRtruck> i dont like that unity bar
[04:51] <jmscomtech> how do i get the ubuntu sound settings to stick to the oxygen hd audio?
[04:51] <edbian> thechris, it said that was the chipset of the 0b05:179d ?
[04:51] <monstaRtruck> and no i will not use punctuashun
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, ahhh
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, I see your link now
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, what about the modprobe ?
[04:52] <edbian> thechris, I'm on the edge of my seat here!
[04:52] <monstaRtruck> sick got cairo dock
[04:52] <paulsomebody> monstaRtruck: Suit  yourself.
[04:52] <xcyclist> http://pastie.org/3094097
[04:53] <monstaRtruck> thx
[04:53] <thechris> modprobe 2500usb -- wlan0 no longer appears
[04:53] <thechris> i did rmmod 2800usb/lib first
[04:54] <edbian> thechris, ok, let's try that 2870  sudo modprobe rt2870sta
[04:54] <edbian> thechris, After reading your wiki page I'm not surprised that 2500usb didn't work
[04:55] <edbian> thechris, the rmmod  isn't necessary
[04:55] <edbian> thechris, have you tried modprobing this stuff before?
[04:55] <thechris> edbian: rt2870sta doesn't exist
[04:55] <edbian> thechris, I was afraid of that.  I'll try to figure that out online
[04:55] <lalagirl> hi i'm back
[04:56] <rcmaehl> My PC just kernel paniced. How do I figure out what caused it?
[04:56] <lalagirl> Thanks Corey.
[04:56] <DrPenguin> rcmaehl: did you look at the kernel panic? it usually tells you THERE what happened
[04:57] <rcmaehl> nope
[04:57] <lalagirl> And thank you edbian.
[04:57] <rcmaehl> it didn't display it
[04:57] <edbian> lalagirl, sure
[04:57] <DrPenguin> then how do you know it panicked
[04:57] <|aaron> can i ask for help installing a php pecl extension (ibm_db2) here?
[04:57] <rcmaehl> the pc hard froze still showing the GUI with scroll and ccaps lock blinking
[04:57] <lalagirl> edbian I'll talk to you guys later.
[04:57] <Blue1> I am having an issue with abiword.  when I go to re-open a document I saved it says it appears to be an invalid document -- how do I fix?
[04:57] <edbian> lalagirl, bye
[04:57] <lalagirl> edbian See you around.
[04:57] <DrPenguin> rcmaehl: during boot?
[04:58] <rcmaehl> DrPenguin: During normal pc usage
[04:58] <DrPenguin> rcmaehl: ok.. did you try VT switching?
[04:58] <rcmaehl> ?
[04:58] <DrPenguin> ill take that as a no.. look in /var/log, maybe it got captured in there
[04:58] <rcmaehl> which file?
[04:59] <DrPenguin> i dont know.. maybe kern.log? you gotta look
[05:00] <rcmaehl> doesn't look like it was logged in kern.log
[05:00] <DrPenguin> try looking in other files there then
[05:00] <DrPenguin> but it may not of been logged at all
[05:01] <edbian> thechris, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[05:01] <edbian> thechris, I'm reading this
[05:03] <rcmaehl> I see something that kinda looks like what teh kernel panic outputs in syslog
[05:03] <DrPenguin> pastebin it
[05:04] <edbian> thechris, sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[05:05] <Blue1>  I am having an issue with abiword.  when I go to re-open a document I saved it says it appears to be an invalid document -- how do I fix?
[05:05] <thechris> edbian: hmm, something messed up.  rebooting
[05:05] <edbian> thechris, ok?
[05:06] <edbian> thechris, what chipset do you think this is?
[05:06] <thechris> edbian: can't sudo
[05:06] <edbian> thechris, strange...
[05:07] <thechris> edbian: I'm assuming it was rt2870.
[05:07] <blackbox> whenever I create a desktop short cut of a website using chrome or firefox on ubuntu it always detaches it self from the many browser.... (how can I put it back into the tabs )
[05:07] <edbian> thechris, mhmm
[05:07] <NimeshNeema> where can i learn more about apt ? any good pointers ?
[05:07] <edbian> How can I get the rt2870sta driver in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[05:07] <edbian> Or where can I find out?
[05:07] <thechris> well that was a mistake
[05:07] <edbian> thechris, mistake?
[05:07] <thechris> now i don't have usb
[05:07] <edbian> thechris, any usb?
[05:07] <rcmaehl> http://pastebin.com/MzQBXj2X
[05:08] <thechris> edbian: i put the rt2870 firmware in /lib/firmware
[05:08] <thechris> now the wifi prevents the mouse or keyboard from working
[05:08] <DrPenguin> compiz caused it
[05:08] <thechris> at least at boot
[05:09] <edbian> thechris, but wifi is working?
[05:09] <edbian> thechris, where did you get the firmware?
[05:09] <thechris> edbian: from ralink
[05:09] <thechris> edbian: and I can't set the wpa password without a keyboard/mouse
[05:09] <edbian> thechris, i see, reboot
[05:10] <edbian> thechris, maybe the keyboard / mouse will come back (they obviously should not interfere)
[05:10] <blackbox> does anybody have that problem when creating a desktop shortcut in chrome or firefox the tab you are creating the desktop shortcut detaches from the main browser window... how to put it back? Or is this just a bug? Seems also that when you open a short cut it doesn't have the windows decorations
[05:10] <dante123> hi all, have an older computer with AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+    Want to know if I should go 32 bit or 64 with this cpu?
[05:10] <edbian> dante123, is it a 64 bit cpu?
[05:11] <DrPenguin> thats probably a 32bit..
[05:11] <NimeshNeema> dante123: how much memory u have ?
[05:11] <Arcademan> dante123, what kind of Ram you have I assume x32 :)
[05:11] <paulsomebody> blackbox: This is supposed to work that way, it is not a bug.
[05:11] <dante123> it is a 64 bit cpu and I have 2gb ram
[05:11] <Arcademan> I would still stick with x32 :)
[05:11] <edbian> dante123, DrPenguin the amd site says it can be 64 bit: http://products.amd.com/%28S%28cdylad45vuougtu24fqzoi2z%29%29/pages/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=143&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
[05:11] <blackbox> why would one want that ? it is annoying I would like it not to detach
[05:12] <thechris> edbian: when i plug the usb adapater back in, i have access to the mouse.  still no AP's
[05:12] <edbian> thechris, when did you unplug the usb dongle?  Did you reboot?
[05:12] <DrPenguin> if it supports a 64bit operating mode then its a 64bit cpu
[05:12] <paulsomebody> blackbox: Because this is how web apps work. Google more information if you want to know more.
[05:12] <blackbox> is their anyway in the preferences to specify this... cann't see why people would want this
[05:12] <dante123> edbian would you recommend 64 bit or 32?
[05:12] <edbian> dante123, the biggest reason to use 64 bit is to use more than 3.2 Gb of ram
[05:13] <edbian> dante123, which you don't have sooo...
[05:13] <dante123> so then 32 bit is probably safest
[05:13] <monstaRtruck> wats up w gconf editor in 1110
[05:13] <paulsomebody> blackbox: If you want a web app to run unlike this, it is feasible.
[05:13] <dante123> okay
[05:13] <edbian> dante123, It makes little difference
[05:13] <edbian> dante123, I guess flash is easier on 32 bit
[05:13] <Arcademan> lol ^
[05:13] <dante123> this computer is for someone else....so I think I will go 32 so they dont get issues
[05:13] <paulsomebody> blackbox: In Chrome, simply right click it and select the necessary option. I don't know about Firefox, though.
[05:14] <dante123> thanks for help edbian and others
[05:14] <thechris> edbian: after rebooting, still no AP's
[05:14] <edbian> dante123, sure
[05:14] <edbian> thechris, but mouse and keyboard are back?
[05:14] <thechris> edbian: this time they did come back
[05:15] <edbian> thechris, what module is currently active?  Did you remove the firmware from /lib/firmware ?
[05:15] <paulsomebody> blackbox: It my experience, it works the same way in both systems.
[05:15] <thechris> edbian: no, linux-firmware was previously at the latest version
[05:15] <edbian> thechris, Yeah, I know that.  (saw that on my system)
[05:15] <monstaRtruck> where is gconf editor it 11.10
[05:15] <paulsomebody> blackbox: You want to create a shortcut to the regular webpage, or an web app?
[05:15] <thechris> edbian: rt2800usb/lib is what is currently in use
[05:16] <MxxC> hey folks. when i try to install firmware-b43legacy-installer i get
[05:16] <edbian> thechris, strange name,  is that what was active when you saw AP's listed?
[05:16] <MxxC> ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure firmware-b43legacy-installer
[05:16] <MxxC> [: 17: missing ]
[05:16] <MxxC> [: 17: missing ]
[05:16] <FloodBot1> MxxC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <edbian> MxxC, That package doesn't exist anymore.  What card do you have?
[05:16] <thechris> edbian: I've never seen AP's listed from the desktop, only from the laptop
[05:16] <blackbox> so is their away to open a short cut with all the windows tool bars in firefox and chrome.... On windows I don't have this problem because it always opens with all the tool bars
[05:17] <paulsomebody> blackbox: Yes.
[05:17] <edbian> thechris, desktop, laptop... ?
[05:17] <blackbox> how
[05:17] <edbian> thechris, which machine have we been talking about this whole time
[05:17] <edbian> I can't read your mind
[05:17] <paulsomebody> blackbox: What you are doing is creating a web app, what you need is simply to create a shortcut.
[05:17] <MxxC> edbian, it exist in 11.04...? i have bmc4306 it's dell D600 laptop
[05:17] <thechris> edbian: oh, the desktop is what doens't work.  the laptop also has wifi and is what I've used to determine that the wireless world still exists
[05:17] <edbian> MxxC, I have that card!
[05:17] <edbian> MxxC, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[05:18] <edbian> thechris, ok, you've never seen wifi networks using the usb dongle in question right?
[05:18] <thechris> edbian: no, its new
[05:18] <MxxC> edbian: it says unsupported device was found and i should use b43legacy