[17:38] <dmj_s76> xnox: Could you review and merge the nvme fix?
[19:50] <cyphermox> davmor2: in that case, situation seems exactly as it was for 16.04. I suppose the enter issue is jsut about VBox though
[19:59] <dmj_s76> cyphermox: So, for multiple device scenarios...
[20:00] <dmj_s76> Do we want to put grub always on the first drive listed by grub-mkdevicemap or favor the drive we're choosing to install to?
[20:02] <dmj_s76> Right now the regex specifically operates on the targetted drive, which is the first item returned by grub-mkdevicemap that isn't the install media.
[20:14] <cyphermox> I think you always want to favor the drive you're installing to; you can't depend on grub-mkdevicemap returning what you want in all cases
[20:17] <cyphermox> now; that's my opinion we can deal with it however xnox wants since he's going to be the person doing the merging
[20:17] <cyphermox> I need to get back offline; I want just logged on to do some extra printing that we'd gotten wrong
[20:17] <cyphermox> I'm getting married this weekend so I have a gazillion small things to finish up
[20:23] <dmj_s76> cyphermox: Congratulations and sorry to take you away from friends, family, and fiancee!
[20:24] <cyphermox> no worries
[20:24] <cyphermox> sending the email was the right thing to do
[20:58] <dmj_s76> I'm testing the behavior with 2 nvme drives now just to make sure that works correctly.
[22:03] <xnox> dmj_s76, cyphermox: my plan was to bring up VM with two nvme machines.
[22:04] <xnox> the regexps look okish, but don't look right, because exacatly as cyphermox points out the whole "drive" is "nvmenX"
[22:05] <xnox> i'm also not sure if qemu can boot of nvme in BIOS mode, I only ever tried it / made it work in UEFI mode
[22:05] <xnox> my laptop has just one nvme drive, and i'm not able to burn this laptop =(
[22:08] <dmj_s76> xnox: I've been trying with 2 nvme drives in the same machine
[22:14] <dmj_s76> xnox: So the modified regex makes grub_default() target the right thing with 2 nvme drives, and the installer thinks it succeeded, but doesn't actually result in a bootable system in bios mode.
[22:15] <dmj_s76> ...that's not a regression, since grub-installer simply fails without the change
[22:16] <dmj_s76> in this test there was both an nvme0n1 and nvme1n1


[02:01] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys I am back, This hasn't bothered me but I am in search of a solution. Yesterday I tried sudo reboot, and sudo shutdown -r, and both just boot my pc with flashing _ and the only solution I have to turn off the pc complete and turn it back on, is there a command that does same thing?
[02:03] <Nixus> flashing?
[02:05] <Demon_Jester> yeah when it boots back up there is black background with flashing cursor "_" in the quotes.
[02:05] <Demon_Jester> I could be wrong I will try again.
[06:30] <uzvermode> win 3
[11:16] <dane111> anyone able to help me install xubuntu and answer a few questions please?
[11:17] <klopsi-u3> i am here to help but dont know much
[11:17] <dane111> more then me hopefully
[11:18] <dane111> i've got an empty drive that i want to install on, if I just choose that drive to install to, will whatever partitions I need be created automatically or do I need to do it myself?
[11:19] <klopsi-u3> google says "you can make a new partition"
[11:19] <klopsi-u3> do you want to dual boot windows and xubuntu?
[11:20] <dane111> ok, and do you know if more is involved if im installing on a uefi system instead of bios?
[11:21] <dane111> well i've windows installed already, but i'm on going through bios setup and then change boot order when I want to use xubuntu, as i won't be using it that often
[11:21] <dane111> but im planning on*
[11:21] <klopsi-u3> ah so xubuntu gets its own drive?
[11:22] <dane111> yes, but i'd also like to make partitions on that drive, to store system independent files. ie music videos etc.
[11:22] <dane111> so i could  access a music library etc no matter what os Im in.
[11:23] <klopsi-u3> yes good plan, unfortunately i have no efi experience (running with compatibility module here)
[11:23] <dane111> ok,
[11:23] <dane111> think i'll just dive in and give it a shot ;)
[11:24] <dane111> disconnect windows drives, so worst case I just wipe the linux hard drive and start again. and again.. ad nauseum
[11:25] <dane111> but yeah I wasn't sure if xubuntu makes its own partitions for boot, /, swap etc or whether ill have to do it manually? but i guess ill find out.
[11:26] <klopsi-u3> i would select in the installer to manually partition the disk so you can set up your data drive
[11:26] <klopsi-u3> possibly also make two identical partitions for xubuntu
[11:26] <klopsi-u3> so you can use dd to make a backup
[11:26] <dane111> dd?
[11:27] <klopsi-u3> dd lets you make a byte-for-byte copy of one partition to another
[11:27] <klopsi-u3> or one partition to a file
[11:27] <dane111> ok.
[11:27] <dane111> is dd a linux command or how do I use that. or what is that?
[11:27] <klopsi-u3> it is a linux shell command
[11:28] <dane111> ok, so three partitions, two for linux, and one for data, and then i can 'dd' from one partition to the other. is that right?
[11:28] <klopsi-u3> yeah i like to do it that way
[11:29] <klopsi-u3> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/drive-and-partition-backups-with-dd/
[11:29] <dane111> instead of re-installing, bit quicker?
[11:29] <klopsi-u3> well it lets me experiment more with less worry about breaking things
[11:29] <klopsi-u3> yes
[11:30] <dane111>  ok. thanks for the link and help :)
[12:23] <natus> When I shutdown my computer and when I restart it, I have always crash messages. Not because there are bugs, because Xubuntu shutdowns to quickly and maybe it doesn't wait that the applications are closed. How can I resolve my problem?
[12:25] <natus> On Windows, we can modify the reg to change the shutdown session time. In Xubuntu, is like "Shutdown" and immediately it's done and it crashes softwares that give me messages after the restart.
[12:26] <klopsi-u3> not familiar with that issue
[12:26] <natus> I thought about doing a script that deletes the crash folder after the restart but I want to understand the problem here and find a better solution.
[12:28] <klopsi-u3> not finding anything in google
[12:28] <Bwithmore19> hello guys how can i install xfce 4.12 on xubuntu 14.04 lts
[12:28] <natus> klopsi-u3: I searched already, I sended the same message on the ubuntu irc to see if there is a solution.
[12:29] <ochosi> just give it some time
[12:29] <ochosi> 4.12 was only released a few hours ago
[12:29] <ochosi> after almost three years, i guess you can wait a few more hours/days ;)
[12:30] <Bwithmore19> it will go to xubuntu main repo or not ?
[12:30] <Bwithmore19> or i will just use ppa ?
[12:34] <natus> Bwithmore19: you can use ppa look here https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12
[12:34] <ochosi> Bwithmore19: this answers your question: https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152
[12:35] <natus> but it is not the stable version xubuntu devs said
[12:35] <elfy> natus: ochosi IS one of them :)
[12:35] <natus> elfy: haha :D
[12:36] <elfy> Bwithmore19: give people a chance to get anything that will turn up in 14.04 there
[12:37] <elfy> and if things need testing with 14.04 - wait a while longer as it is a long haul actually getting anyone to do so
[12:37] <Bwithmore19> ok man i will
[12:37] <Bwithmore19> wait and see if will go to xubuntu 14.04 main repository
[12:41] <jatt> is there a official ppa to upgrade to the latest xfce 4.12?
[12:42] <elfy> https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152
[13:47] <elfy> DalePayman: https://twitter.com/bluesabredavis/status/570387123024433152
[13:47] <DalePayman> Hey All! What's the best way to upgrade to Xfce 4.12 on my Xubuntu 14.04? Thx in advance!
[13:47] <elfy> ^^
[13:50] <DalePayman> so i have to wait :-|
[13:57] <elfy> yep - and it appears patience is foreign
[16:26] <Alftand> hiya
[16:26] <Alftand> anyone need a hand?
[16:26] <Alftand> welcome
[16:27] <Alftand> welcome
[16:28] <Alftand> anyone here?
[16:28] <klopsi-u3> hi Alftand
[16:28] <pleia2> Alftand: hi there, folks will ask questions when they need help, and you're encouraged to do the same :)
[16:29] <Alftand> ok
[16:29] <pleia2> (we try to keep the non-support chatter here to a minimum, so our helpers only look here when someone asks a question)
[16:33] <klopsi-u3> Alftand: join #xubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[16:58] <xubuntu288> I already installed xubuntu, but UEFI woes made me rethink going dual boot. What is the best way to wipe windows and install xubuntu as my sole operating system?
[16:59] <Alftand> i have an idea
[16:59] <Alftand> once i installed xubuntu on a UEFI computer
[16:59] <Alftand> what i did was that i went into bios settings and set it to CSM boot
[16:59] <Alftand> like compatibility mode
[16:59] <Alftand> then i installed it
[17:00] <Alftand> although windows wont boot when u set it to CSM
[17:00] <Alftand> keep it on UEFI
[17:00] <Alftand> when u imaged the xfce install disc
[17:00] <xubuntu288> Gotcha. It does not offer "Wipe Windows" as it did the first round. The previous install involved manual partitioning. It seems grubx64 did not find a place in the ESP partition
[17:00] <Alftand> set the PC to CSM then boot the install disc
[17:01] <Alftand> all i say is change it from UEFI to CSM
[17:01] <Alftand> it will work like a dream and install normally
[17:02] <xubuntu288> Esentially, I can see the xxx.efi's in the firmware control. Yeah, completely avoiding EFI would be nice, especially since am at the point where I could care less about Windows.
[17:03] <xubuntu288> Oh, to complete the first sentence... but they dont show up as an option upon boot... Yup, CSM it is.
[17:04] <xubuntu288> Thanks
[17:05] <Alftand> (wow, im only 13 and im already helping other linux users)
[17:25] <Azelphur> Alftand: age doesn't dictate what you can and cannot do, when I was 13 I was already well into programming and was building my own computers, etc. Another guy I know is 14 and manages a lot of Mozillas UK online presence
[17:45] <drc> Installed 15.04B1...where are we talking about it (not necessarily bug/reports, but) questions to see if it is a local/regional/global problem, observations and things like that?  Here, -devel, +1 ?
[17:45] <holstein> !15.05
[17:45] <holstein> !15.04
[17:45] <drc> thanks
[17:45] <holstein> though, likely also relevant in the #xubuntu-devel channel for xubuntu specific discussion, drc
[17:45] <drc> what if it is a purely XFCE/Xbuntu problem, such a panel oddities?
[17:46] <drc> Read my mind :)
[17:46] <holstein> drc: as far as "observations", that might be more like a wishlist bug.. im not sure where the "complaints department" is, these days ;)
[17:46] <drc> bitbucket? :)
[17:46] <holstein> you can always go upstream to the xfce project its self
[17:47] <drc> thanks
[18:44] <CrossPope16> hello
[18:45] <klopsi-u3> hi CrossPope16
[18:45] <CrossPope16> is Thunderbird always this buggy or is it like that only on xubuntu?
[18:46] <elfy> well - works fine for me and I'm using Xubuntu
[18:46] <CrossPope16> yeah well, I guess it's okay
[18:46] <CrossPope16> but you see, I have like 8000 emails on my yahoo acount
[18:47] <elfy> why not just say what the problem is :)
[18:47] <CrossPope16> I ticked the option to "Synchronize the most recent 30 days" emails
[18:47] <CrossPope16> it still downloads all 8000 of them :/
[18:48] <CrossPope16> oh bloody hell now it's downloading 13 thousand message headers
[18:48] <elfy> mmm no idea about that I'm afraid, but if no-one else can help in here, try  #ubuntu as tbird is the same regardless
[18:51] <CrossPope16> tho I like Xubuntu so far
[18:51] <CrossPope16> but I think there's a bug for the desktop can you guys test it?
[18:52] <elfy> CrossPope16: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2674517
[18:55] <CrossPope16> thanks elfy, I think I found the fix!
[18:58] <CrossPope16> do you know whether I will still receive email if I close Thunderbird?
[18:59] <kashel> plymouth help
[18:59] <bazhang> !info plymouth
[18:59] <kashel> i can help with Plymouth on Xubuntu 14.04.1
[19:00] <kashel> ply-boot-client.c]                       ply_boot_client_connect:could not connect to /org/freedesktop/plymouthd: Connection refused
 [./ply-boot-client.c]                       ply_boot_client_connect:trying old fallback path /ply-boot-protocol
 [./ply-boot-client.c]                       ply_boot_client_connect:could not connect to /ply-boot-protocol: Connection refused
 [./plymouth.c]                                          main:daemon not running
[19:00] <kashel> plymouth --debug
[19:10] <user__> hello,my host is ubuntu but my problem is with macchanger-gtk ,any suggestion on appropriate room to ask about it? once i get the mac changed in macchanger-gtk i can (wlan0) i get disconnected and my network is not showing,thank you
[19:11] <cfhowlett> user__, ask in main #ubuntu ... or ##linux or #networking
[19:11] <user__> question got cut off,meant to say i am having problem with macchanger-gtk and not sure which room to use if someone can suggest or help me solve it here
[19:11] <user__> thank you cf
[19:11] <cfhowlett> user__, happy2help!
[20:51] <bcowan> latest beta looks nice....dri is b0rked and grub is hosed on install but everything works after that
[21:01] <supsup> hi i just installed ubuntu, in sound settings it lists my sound card and it acts like it is playing music, but no sound is coming out
[21:11] <klopsi-u3> supsup what are you using to play sounds?
[21:12] <klopsi-u3> ?what do you mean it is acting like it is playing music?
[21:23] <supsup> klopsi-u3 i figured it out thanks! i use using digital profile vs analog
[21:24] <klopsi-u3> ah good deal
[22:05] <spk_> *testtest*
[22:05] <klopsi-u3> test successful
[22:06] <spk_> Woo!
[22:07] <spk_> I have just installed Xubuntu in an old comp I built and have strange video issues that I haven't seen described anywhere else
[22:07] <klopsi-u3> maybe you have bad video ram
[22:08] <spk_> screenshot: http://postimg.org/image/qxy6778e1/
[22:08] <klopsi-u3> cool, 60s
[22:08] <spk_> right?
[22:08] <spk_> but very hard to read
[22:09] <spk_> has anyone seen something similar?
[22:14] <bcowan> where can i set to not show mounts on the desktop
[22:14] <bcowan> err where in settings
[22:15] <drc> Desktop...Appearence...Default Icons.
[22:15] <drc> Unclick what you don't want.
[22:17] <bcowan> hmm did that and home and trash disapeared too
[22:17] <bcowan> oh well
[22:17] <majorgrub> Hi all
[22:18] <bcowan> thanks
[22:18] <majorgrub> I kind of have an issue with the sleep mode configuration...
[22:18] <drc> bcowan: The re-click the Home and Trash and NOT the removable Devices.
[22:18] <majorgrub> I configured my xubuntu so that it never goes to sleep nor turn off the screen but it doesn't seem to be working
[22:19] <majorgrub> When I'm watching a movie, it goes to sleep after like 15minutes
[22:19] <bcowan> drc, thanks
[22:20] <majorgrub> Maybe it's because I didn't turn off "light locker"
[22:20] <majorgrub> hmm...
[22:20] <majorgrub> I just did, will see if it changes something
[23:11] <supsup> hey guys I just installed this today, quick question:  How do I make my monitor changes done in ARandR persist per session?
[23:11] <supsup> when i log out they revert back
[23:13] <crond> Question: Can I cp -a /usr, /home, and /opt to new partitions on a drive, edit /etc/fstab with the UUID's for those partitions and the mountpoints, and then reboot to effectively migrate without reinstalling?
[23:15] <pleia2> crond: and /boot and /etc and /lib and /var... you'd need to copy almost everything and install grub
[23:17] <crond> pleia2, no, I only want to move those directories actually
[23:18] <crond> I have 16gb SSD, and I've added a 1TB HDD, so I just want to move the big stuff
[23:18] <crond> pleia2, so is that the right way to do it?
[23:18] <pleia2> crond: oh, I see, you aren't reinstalling the whole disk
[23:18] <pleia2> crond: yeah, that should work ok
[23:19] <supsup_> i logged out so unsure if anyone said something about how to make ARandR settings not reset per session
[23:19] <pleia2> you don't really need to reboot though, just mount the new ones over the old
[23:19] <pleia2> I suppose you might want to reboot to test that fstab is working properly, but there's no actual need to do so
[23:20] <crond> pleia2, okay, awesome, thanks
[23:20] <supsup_> pleia2 do you use two screens?
[23:20] <pleia2> supsup_: nope, sorry
[23:33] <Marzatha> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/03/01/0558259/xfce-412-released


[06:41] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:45] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[06:45] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:23] <didrocks> good morning
[07:24] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[07:27] <jpnurmi> good morning. hey oSoMoN duflu didrocks
[07:27] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, hey jpnurmi
[07:27] <duflu> Morning jpnurmi
[07:32] <didrocks> hey duflu, jpnurmi, oSoMoN
[07:54] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:55] <duflu> Hi seb128
[07:55] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va ?
[07:58] <seb128> hey duflu, lut didrocks , how are you?
[07:58] <seb128> didrocks, ça va !
[07:59] <duflu> seb128, alright though a bit rushed. Have to fix a bug and do multiple interview things before dinner
[07:59] <duflu> How are you?
[07:59] <didrocks> seb128: idem :)
[08:04] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright thanks!
[08:05] <seb128> duflu, what bug are you working on today?
[08:05] <duflu> seb128, triple buffering has one bug, specifically nvidia-470 on Wayland
[08:05] <duflu> should be finished soon
[08:05] <seb128> ah ok
[08:06] <seb128> upstream is still not wanting to merge that one in for this cycle I guess?
[08:13] <duflu> seb128, they're silent on it which I expected
[08:38] <jibel> good morning all
[08:39] <duflu> Morning jibel
[08:39] <didrocks> salut jibel
[08:52] <jibel> tillkamppeter, Hey, last week I told you I couldn't print anymore on Jammy. Here is the erroor I get in the logs:
[08:52] <jibel> AVC apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/run/systemd/userdb/io.systemd.Machine" pid=892182 comm="cupsd" requested_mask="w" denied_mask="w" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[08:52] <jibel> tillkamppeter,do you want a bug report or it is a known issue?
[09:02] <amurray> jibel: I wonder if this is an apparmor issue, not a cups specific issue - I see LP: #1894902 looks familiar and it is for ntpsec not cups - so probably /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/nss-systemd and perhaps /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/nameservice both need to be updated to include something like `/run/systemd/userdb/io.systemd.Machine rw,`
[09:05] <amurray> jibel: so would be worth filing a bug against apparmor about this I think
[09:05] <seb128> hey jibel amurray
[09:06] <amurray> hey seb128 :)
[09:06] <seb128> amurray, thanks for the quick snapd-desktop-integration security review!
[09:07] <amurray> seb128: no worries - it wasn't too onerous - thankfully is a nice, small, well-contained application
[09:12] <seb128> :)
[09:14] <jibel> Hey amurray , thanks, I'll do that
[09:15] <amurray> jibel: cheers
[09:35] <jibel> amurray,https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/1964325
[10:48] <seb128> tillkamppeter, hey, I'm trying to print something but the printer doesn't seem to get the job, it's a ricoh network printer
[10:48] <seb128> the cups error_log has
[10:48] <seb128> D [09/Mar/2022:11:47:16 +0100] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Printing jobs and dirty files", busy="Printing jobs and dirty files"
[10:48] <seb128> D [09/Mar/2022:11:47:16 +0100] [Client 9959] HTTP_STATE_WAITING Closing for error 32 (Broken pipe)
[10:48] <seb128> D [09/Mar/2022:11:47:16 +0100] [Client 9959] Closing connection.
[10:48] <seb128> any idea how to debug that?
[10:59] <oSoMoN> seb128, same problem as what jibel was mentioning earlier, maybe?
[11:06] <seb128> oSoMoN, no, I checked the journal and I don't have those apparmor denial and I tried to set cups to complain mode and it's not making a difference
[11:49] <luna> morning desktoppers
[11:51] <seb128> hey luna, how are you?
[11:51] <seb128> jbicha, I enabled libsoup3 on i386 now
[11:52] <luna> other then a bunch of headache i should not whine
[11:57] <jbicha> seb128: good morning. Could you look into demoting eog-dev libhandy-1-dev and the webkit 4.1 packages to universe? (eog-dev was pulling in libhandy which tried to pull in glade)
[11:59] <seb128> jbicha, I already demoted those but the component mismatch report is buggy and they keep being listed anyway, seems like someone promoted them back
[11:59] <seb128> jbicha, I can try to demote again but I'm unsure it will help with what you try to resolve
[12:00] <jbicha> I just updated the seed thing last night so it might stick this time
[12:03] <seb128> jbicha, https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/commit/?id=dcd5e10f
[12:04] <oSoMoN> good morning luna, jbicha
[12:04] <seb128> jbicha, is the use of * not working anymore?
[12:04] <luna> morning oSoMoN
[12:05] <tillkamppeter> seb128, first,there was a bug fix in CUPS on Debian, CUPS 2.4.1op1-2, Closes: #1006849 #1006727 #876207
[12:05] <tillkamppeter> I will merge this fix today.
[12:07] <seb128> tillkamppeter, thx
[12:07] <seb128> sorry I've to drop from IRC, going for lunch and I'm taking the laptop with me
[12:07] <seb128> bbl, we can resume that conversation if needed
[12:07] <tillkamppeter> seb128, but I do not know whether it covers your problem. The effect of the fix is to have the line "SystemGroup lpadmin root" in /etc/cups/cups-files.conf. So you can manually adjust it and try.
[12:07] <seb128> tillkamppeter, k, I will try that and let you know after lunch
[12:07] <tillkamppeter> seb128, OK
[12:07] <seb128> thanks
[12:35] <KGB-0> gnome-tweaks signed tags 46745f3 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42_beta * Upstream version 42~beta * https://deb.li/MvqC
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[12:35] <KGB-2> gnome-tweaks upstream/latest eb0428e Jeremy Bicha * pushed 67 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3evCz
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[13:05] <luna> anyone elses update or installation of todays 22.04 gets stuck on linux-headers packages?
[13:22] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor signed tags 39e4bd6 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42_rc * Upstream version 42~rc * https://deb.li/3nfM0
[13:22] <KGB-2> gnome-system-monitor pristine-tar 9906440 Jeremy Bicha gnome-system-monitor_42~alpha.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-system-monitor_42~alpha.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-system-monitor_42~alpha.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/OBTG
[13:22] <KGB-2> gnome-system-monitor pristine-tar aef4275 Jeremy Bicha gnome-system-monitor_42~rc.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-system-monitor_42~rc.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-system-monitor_42~rc.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3h2PM
[13:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest ee0cbe6 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 42 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/z2zA
[13:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest 8c56a28 sicklylife po/ja.po * Update Japanese translation * https://deb.li/3vbwi
[13:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest b4ae55d Daniel Mustieles po/es.po * Update Spanish translation * https://deb.li/hbRv
[13:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest 3924b4f Sergej A help/ru/ru.po * Update Russian translation * https://deb.li/3CXnn
[13:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest 79a3eda sicklylife po/ja.po * Update Japanese translation * https://deb.li/oBvs
[13:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest c43f7a0 Fran Dieguez help/ LINGUAS gl/gl.po * Add Galician translation * https://deb.li/ig2tU
[13:46] <KGB-2> mutter signed tags 80f7aaa Jeremy Bicha upstream/42_rc * Upstream version 42~rc * https://deb.li/aFMD
[13:46] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 0894965 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 85 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3uBRz
[13:46] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 79319a3 Jonas Ådahl src/backends/ meta-barrier.c native/meta-barrier-native.c * barrier/native: Fix warning about implicit enum conversion * https://deb.li/fByl
[13:46] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 43870a5 Jonas Ådahl src/backends/x11/meta-input-settings-x11.c * input-settins/x11: Fix switch fallthrough warning * https://deb.li/3e2DI
[13:46] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 339c315 Jonas Ådahl src/backends/native/meta-input-settings-native.c * input-settings/native: Fix switch fallthrough warning * https://deb.li/34n4E
[13:46] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 590e32d Jonas Ådahl src/wayland/meta-wayland-tablet-pad.c * wayland/tablet-pad: Fix fallthrough warning * https://deb.li/iWFze
[13:46] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest 46f81af Jonas Ådahl src/backends/native/meta-kms-impl-device-atomic.c * kms/impl-device/atomic: Fix function type signature * https://deb.li/p2v0
[13:47] <jbicha> seb128: I reverted that libhandy * change since it wasn't the right fix
[13:47] <KGB-0> mutter pristine-tar a47c3a6 Jeremy Bicha mutter_42~rc.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_42~rc.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_42~rc.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3Qbt2
[13:48] <seb128> jbicha, thanks
[18:40] <KGB-2> nautilus upstream/latest 67404be Jeremy Bicha * pushed 42 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iKHc
[18:40] <KGB-2> nautilus upstream/latest 196951e Piotr Drąg po/pl.po * Update Polish translation * https://deb.li/32m5y
[18:40] <KGB-2> nautilus upstream/latest 616997b Charles Monzat po/fr.po * Update French translation * https://deb.li/qLbG
[18:40] <KGB-2> nautilus upstream/latest ef94918 Alan Mortensen po/da.po * Updated Danish translation * https://deb.li/38NkM
[18:40] <KGB-2> nautilus upstream/latest 7f2598b Goran Vidović po/hr.po * Update Croatian translation * https://deb.li/HNS1
[18:40] <KGB-2> nautilus upstream/latest 33c0c4c Fabio Tomat po/fur.po * Update Friulian translation * https://deb.li/3RlXN
[18:45] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master b289f1d Jeremy Bicha * pushed 50 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/i3L7g
[18:45] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master adabebd Changwoo Ryu po/ko.po * Update Korean translation * https://deb.li/Q4Nz
[18:45] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 6336970 Jiri Grönroos po/fi.po * Update Finnish translation * https://deb.li/3HLEs
[18:45] <KGB-2> nautilus signed tags d3c333d Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/1%42_beta-1ubuntu1 * nautilus Debian release 1:42~beta-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3q4I0
[18:46] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 9fd9b95 Luna Jernberg po/sv.po * Update Swedish translation * https://deb.li/VKxv
[18:46] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 404996a António Fernandes src/nautilus-list-view.c * list-view: Draw thumbnail shadow in advance * https://deb.li/3Nmen
[18:46] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 77ba1d7 António Fernandes src/ nautilus-canvas-item.c nautilus-list-view.c resources/css/Adwaita.css * css: Don't use -gtk-icon-shadow for thumbnails * https://deb.li/RGge
[19:23] <Wimpy> Hello desktopers o/
[19:23] <Wimpy> I've just noticed the the Firefox .deb and .snap are both installed by default in Ubuntu MATE.
[19:24] <Wimpy> This is because libreoffice-help-en-us Recommends firefox | firefox-esr | epiphany-browser | konqueror | chromium-browser | chromium
[19:25] <sarnold> Wimpy: there's a discussion about the very similar chromium-browser package on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-February/041839.html where the consensus seems to be that it's worth keeping around the deb to manage symlinks to snaps, apport hooks, etc
[19:26] <Wimpy> sarnold: Thanks for the info. I'll have a read.
[19:45] <KGB-2> gnome-shell signed tags ca09532 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42_rc * Upstream version 42~rc * https://deb.li/3UKph
[19:45] <KGB-2> gnome-shell pristine-tar 6265221 Jeremy Bicha gnome-shell_42~rc.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-shell_42~rc.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-shell_42~rc.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/igr3N


[04:56] <SteveA> mdz: hello
[07:03] <mdz> SteveA: hi
[07:23] <SteveA> hi mdz
[07:24] <mdz> hello SteveA
[07:24] <SteveA> you have tasked martin pitt with extracting pofile stuff from hoary source packages
[07:24] <mdz> not exactly
[07:24] <SteveA> oh, okay
[07:24] <mdz> he has built infrastructure to remove the .mo files from binary packages
[07:24] <mdz> during the build
[07:24] <mdz> simply remove them
[07:24] <mdz> they would instead be provided by a language pack package
[07:25] <mdz> which, we assumed, would simply get a dump from Rosetta
[07:25] <mdz> which would already have the .po data through other means
[07:26] <SteveA> mark talked with martin today about putting po files in the langpack source files


[10:31] <javaJake> Pelo, ganu needs to get GRUB installed on the right hard drive / partition, and then configured for Vista, Fedora, which are on one HD, and then Ubuntu, which is on another HD.
[10:31] <javaJake> Ashfire908, no
[10:31] <Catrik> moow gksudo: invalid option -- y
[10:31] <javaJake> Ashfire908, but command-line is easy enough
[10:32] <moow> Hmm
[10:32] <moow> use sudo, not gksudo
[10:32] <javaJake> Pelo, please take over if you can set that up. I've never done multi-disk GRUB before
[10:32] <giany911> umm where can i find the fonts in ubuntu ?
[10:32] <moow> and run it from a gnome-terminal
[10:32] <javaJake> giany911, do you want to isntall a font?
[10:32] <Pelo> javaJake, the easiest way to get that going it to reinstall ubuntu and make sure the hdd with ubuntu on it is the boot drive in the bios
[10:32] <ganu> lelo,i hav 2 disks,in sdb i have vista,in sda i hav fedora and ubuntu..
[10:32] <javaJake> Pelo, true
[10:32] <Pelo> ganu,  do you mind reinstalling ubuntu ?
[10:32] <giany911> javajake no, i want to pick one for mplayer to use but i dont know where they all are
[10:32] <moow> Hmm, is there a webmin for ubuntu?
[10:32] <javaJake> giany911, Ah, /usr/share I believe...
[10:32] <moow> I'd imagine it'd be tricky?
[10:33] <Ashfire908> javaJake: mind helping me to connect to my eggdrop bot then? i've done it before but on windows.
[10:33] <brohken> can someone help me with my 7.04 install?
[10:33] <gl4iv3> moow: not really
[10:33] <javaJake> giany911, /usr/share/fonts/
[10:33] <Catrik> sudo seems to work :) thx
[10:33] <giany911> javajake yup thx :)
[10:33] <moow> gl4iv3, but webmin needs root and stuff?
[10:33] <javaJake> giany911, then you can decide between trutype....
[10:33] <astro76> !webmin | moow
[10:33] <ubotu> moow: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[10:33] <moow> what to use insteda?
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> giany911: type 'fonts:///' into the location bar in nautilus (your file browser)
[10:33] <moow> !webminalternative
[10:33] <AThomsen> brohken: What's the problem?
[10:33] <javaJake> Paddy_EIRE, ah, nice
[10:33] <moow> Hm
[10:33] <astro76> moow, something else is being worked on I can't recall the name
[10:33] <moow> Hm
[10:33] <javaJake> moow, ubotu seems to be allpowerful, until he's not. :P
[10:34] <moow> love that
[10:34] <brohken> AThomsen: i am reinstalling now, but it seems when i install it I get a error with my X config
[10:34] <brohken> and it doesnt want to work
[10:34] <gl4iv3> moow: just read http://howtoforge.com/installing_webmin_ubuntu_feisty
[10:34] <moow> "Let's discontinue something, then create something else that's not gonna be released until 3 years after we discontinue this!"
[10:34] <brohken> so i don't have an actual gui
[10:34] <javaJake> brohken, mmm, ouch, right
[10:34] <ganu> pelo,ya..i can re install..but while installing what care should i take??
[10:34] <Pelo> ganu,  join me in #Pelo please
[10:34] <pbureau> Question, Anyone know how to test the sound for AC97 Intel, Alsamixer is seemingly set right, and looks like drivers are loaded but no sound is coming out
[10:34] <PanicByte> ubotu, you can prolly use alien
[10:34] <AThomsen> brohken: What's your video card and what errors do you get?
[10:35] <ConstyXIV> In some of my openGL apps, all the text is squished to be unreadable.  How can you fix that?
[10:35] <Paddy_EIRE> PanicByte: you do realize your talking to a bot...right :P
[10:35] <PanicByte> i just found that out
[10:35] <moow> Hmm, think I might stick debian on my server :P
[10:35] <javaJake> lol
[10:35] <moow> or some RH derivative :O
[10:36] <moow> but this will be in a few months, I've got ubuntu server on it now :P
[10:36] <brohken> i realize when i run the guided partition it creates a / and /swap but no /boot
[10:36] <brohken> does that matter?
[10:36] <jimmygoon> Does anyone know what Metacity theme is used here: http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/64507-1.png
[10:37] <ConstyXIV> brohken: no
[10:37] <PanicByte> moow, FreeBSD not bad server OS either, i'm more of a linux guy though
[10:37] <ConstyXIV> brohken: that's not how ubuntu does things
[10:37] <OzRiC> astro76,  thx 4 u help =) ...
[10:37] <OzRiC> i have wiffi =)
[10:37] <moow> PanicByte, I much prefer linux to FreeBSD, dont ask why, I know FreeBSD is superior, but still :P
[10:37] <astro76> OzRiC, you're welcome :D
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> jimmygoon: looks like Blended
[10:37] <GIn> how do you use gaim with google talk ?
[10:37] <OzRiC> astro76, im helper of other server =P ..
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> jimmygoon: search for blended on gnome-look
[10:37] <ConstyXIV> OzRiC: make a jabber account
[10:37] <AThomsen> Gln: Use the jabber protocol
[10:37] <keen101> GIn, still need help?
[10:38] <jimmygoon> Paddy_EIRE, thats not it
[10:38] <GIn> keen101, yep
[10:38] <OzRiC> to themes of irc, scripting .. ssh .. etc etc =P .. i new to linux =P
[10:38] <Yono> how do I make conky not flash every time it updates?
[10:38] <GIn> keen101, should I select jabber as protocol?
[10:38] <moow> bbl
[10:38] <keen101> GIn, yes.
[10:38] <javaJake> Ashfire908, hey, sry
[10:38] <javaJake> Ashfire908, sure, I can help
[10:38] <javaJake> Ashfire908, open a terminal
[10:38] <PanicByte> moow, i like debian for servers, ubuntu for desktops
[10:39] <Ashfire908> javejake, k
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> jimmygoon: oh, I see the window was not focused...looks like compiz to me
[10:39] <javaJake> Ashfire908, do you use SSH?
[10:39] <PanicByte> moow, do the minimal install, so you just got a nice command line
[10:39] <javaJake> Ashfire908, in other words, do you know it was SSH you were using?
[10:39] <keen101> GIn, still need help?
[10:39] <jimmygoon> Paddy_EIRE, hm thanks
[10:39] <GIn> keen101, got it working already
[10:39] <GIn> :)
[10:39] <Ashfire908> javejake, yes because i used the ssh command
[10:39] <keen101> cool.
[10:40] <Ashfire908> brb
[10:40] <javaJake> Ashfire908, OK, in that terminal, type in "ssh <username>@<server IP or address>" and hit enter. (Replace <> stuff of course.)
[10:40] <javaJake> Ashfire908, OK
[10:41] <xhrit> -yawn-
[10:41] <pbureau> Question, Anyone know how to test the sound for AC97 Intel, Alsamixer is seemingly set right, and looks like drivers are loaded but no sound is coming out, any help appreciated
[10:41] <Ashfire908> javaJake,  i need to use port 5000
[10:42] <javaJake> Ashfire908, Ah, OK
[10:42] <javaJake> Ashfire908, "ssh <user>@<server>:5000" I think... lemme try....
[10:42] <astro76> ssh -p 5000
[10:42] <javaJake> astro76, thanks
[10:42] <javaJake> Ashfire908, so that makes it...
[10:43] <Lindar> Hello hello.
[10:43] <javaJake> Ashfire908, "ssh <user>@<server> -p 5000"
[10:43] <javaJake> Ashfire908, scratch taht
[10:43] <javaJake> Ashfire908, "ssh -p 5000 <user>@<server>"
[10:43] <javaJake> Order matters I think. :P
[10:43] <astro76> it does :)
[10:43] <javaJake> Lindar, hey
[10:43] <ConstyXIV> does anyone else have unreadable text in opengl stuff?
[10:43] <Lindar> Apparently I need something called a 'compiling tool' and I need something called 'kernel headers' to compile a program that I want.
[10:43] <Lindar> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper. I'm a first time linux user.
[10:43] <Ashfire908> javaJake: nope. i think it's a problem with eggdrop
[10:44] <javaJake> Lindar, "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"
[10:44] <AThomsen> pbureau: If the alsamixer is set right it oughta work. Are you sure it's set right? Do you have more that one soundcard in your system?
[10:44] <Lindar> I don't have any physical connection to my router, so no net connection is possible from that computer.
[10:44] <javaJake> Lindar, or maybe build-essential (without s)... can't remember
[10:44] <javaJake> Lindar, yea, the LiveCD has everything you need.
[10:44] <Lindar> oh
[10:44] <javaJake> Lindar, it'll ask you to put your CD in
[10:44] <ConstyXIV> Lindar: just get the package from packages.ubuntu.com (ndiswrapper, that is)
[10:44] <Lindar> So if I put in the live CD and run those commands, it'll find them from the CD instead of trying to find them online?
[10:44] <javaJake> Ashfire908, OK, firewall issue maybe
[10:45] <javaJake> Lindar, no, it'll specifically ask you, THEN you put the CD in. :)
[10:45] <keen101> Lindar, yes.
[10:45] <javaJake> :)
[10:45] <keen101> but only if it's already in your repos.
[10:45] <javaJake> keen101, Right, I was just thinking of that
[10:45] <keen101> right?
[10:45] <keen101> ok. :)
[10:45] <Lindar> ...wait, is there a package file that'll just install it for me on Ubuntu's website?
[10:45] <javaJake> Lindar, so maybe the best idea *looks at keen101* is to put your CD in first
[10:46] <javaJake> Lindar, no
[10:46] <javaJake> Lindar, well, yea, kind of
[10:46] <pbureau> AThomsen, humm only one soundcard its a lapto
[10:46] <pbureau> laptop
[10:46] <Lindar> I'd still need the headers?
[10:46] <javaJake> Lindar, but if you do it manually, you get into "dependency hell"
[10:46] <javaJake> Lindar, with apt-get, you avoid all that because apt-get does it for you
[10:46] <Lindar> Okay.
[10:46] <Lindar> I'll go try that now.
[10:47] <javaJake> Lindar, so if you can't use apt-get, and you MUST MUST MUST do it manually, then consider the next 30-60 minutes used for getting all the packages you need ready. :)
[10:47] <AThomsen> pbureau: strange. Have you tried googling or searching in ubuntuforums.org on the exact sound card model to see if there are any problems related to that card?
[10:48] <hzw> evening, can anyone help me with a scanner problem?
[10:48] <javaJake> pbureau, the first and best way to find your answer is to search a unique part of your error, device name, or something else unique
[10:48] <timposey> can anyone tell me how to start the Jack audio server
[10:49] <thedash> anybody good with netcat ?
[10:49] <Ashfire908> javaJake, i'm connection to myself
[10:49] <gonzoism> that is a lot of users
[10:49] <javaJake> pbureau, in this case, searching for your card model name would be best
[10:49] <gonzoism> i'm in gutsy
[10:49] <gonzoism> its nice
[10:49] <hzw> My scanner is recognized by sane and scanimage works, but xsane and kooka do nothing
[10:49] <Ashfire908> javaJake, *connecting
[10:49] <keen101> gonzoism, beta?
[10:49] <hzw> even though xsane recognises the correct backend and device
[10:49] <pbureau> AThomsen, nah, nothing, been sarching for days...  just weird.. I may just unload all drivers and try OSS.
[10:50] <Esteth> Could anyone tell me if there is a channel specifically for compositing or graphics problems?
[10:50] <gonzoism> keen101 tribe 4
[10:50] <Lindar> oooooh
[10:50] <javaJake> Esteth, #ubuntu-effects
[10:50] <gonzoism> keen101 alpha4
[10:50] <brohken> ok so i think Xorg fails because i have an nvidia card. does anyone know how i can fix it?
[10:50] <obanneat> beryl problems?
[10:50] <astro76> Esteth, #ubuntu-effects
[10:50] <Esteth> thanks all :)
[10:50] <javaJake> Esteth, #xorg #compiz or #beryl as well, depending on which program you have issues with
[10:50] <Lindar> When I popped in the CD, a 'package manager' came up. I picked build-essential out of the list, and it installed it for me.
[10:50] <Lindar> Is there anything else I need besides that?
[10:50] <javaJake> Lindar, nope
[10:50] <obanneat> fglrx sucks
[10:50] <timposey> how do I start the Jack audio server
[10:50] <javaJake> Lindar, cpp and gpp _maybe_
[10:50] <Lindar> Yay!
[10:50] <pbureau> AThomsen,  whats the command to find out the name of hardware ?
[10:50] <Lindar> cpp and gpp?
[10:51] <javaJake> Lindar, but only install those if ndiswrapper doesn't compile
[10:51] <steph_16th> hwinfo
[10:51] <AThomsen> pbueau: dmesg
[10:51] <Lindar> Gotcha! *excited*
[10:51] <keen101> gonzoism, i'm still part noob. I have no idea what gutsy tribe or whatever is.
[10:51] <WheelDweller> Anyone got time to 'slap the idiot'?  I'm setting up apache(1) with PHP and rendering just doesn't want to work...it must be something simple- fresh install, and all. Been Googling an hour...
[10:51] <gonzoism> keen101 its like a beta.  its before the beta stage.  :)
[10:52] <aldin> i wanna compile new tango icons on feisty, i have done build-deps... but i have one error, can someone look and try to help me? (cd /usr/share/icons/Tango/16x16 && /usr/share/pkgconfig/icon-name-mapping -c actions)
[10:52] <aldin>  /bin/bash: /usr/share/pkgconfig/icon-name-mapping: No such file or directory
[10:52] <keen101> gonzoism, oh! cool.   how's it workin' out so far?
[10:52] <javaJake> keen101, gonzoism, it's still in alpha stage. When it becomes Release Candidate, then you can probably grab it without too many problems.
[10:53] <javaJake> keen101, gonzoism, right now you have a 30-50% chance of crashing something
[10:53] <AThomsen> pbureau: Are you sure you haven't muted something or turned on coax/optical out or something in alsamixer?
[10:53] <steph_16th> WheelDweller: did you try #apache?
[10:53] <javaJake> keen101, gonzoism, AFAIK
[10:53] <javaJake> WheelDweller, did you modify your APache config to accept PHP?
[10:53] <WheelDweller> steph_16th: Not yet; installed fresh, shouldn't this "just work"?  :>
[10:53] <javaJake> no
[10:53] <WheelDweller> steph_16th: Yeah...
[10:54] <pbureau> AThomsen,  how do I switch in alsamixer from playback to other status?
[10:54] <javaJake> You have to tell Apache ".php files get handled by PHP"
[10:54] <keen101> javaJake, I'm sticking with feisty until gutsy is officially released.
[10:54] <javaJake> keen101, same here
[10:54] <AThomsen> pbureau: you mean recording?
[10:54] <Pelo> pbureau, use the tab key to get to the correct line,  then use the arrows
[10:54] <javaJake> WheelDweller, #php (or #apache as a last resort)
[10:54] <rand> how do I setup dual monitors with Fiesty?
[10:54] <javaJake> WheelDweller, they will know for sure
[10:54] <pbureau> AThomsen, yep
[10:54] <gonzoism> keen101   pretty good.  i switched to it trying to get rid of a bug.  its still here.  so it looks like i'll be reporting it and investigating it.   the bug makes my laptop freeze up intermittently.
[10:54] <WheelDweller> steph_16th: Thanks!
[10:54] <Pelo> !dualhead > rand  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[10:54] <steph_16th> WheelDweeller: usually, there's always a part where you got to take a look at the config files, just in case
[10:54] <javaJake> rand, I've got a link... one sec...
[10:54] <keen101> javaJake, I was just asking how gutsy pre-beta or whatever was working (even with bugs)
[10:54] <pbureau> AThomsen, to switch from playback to capture for example
[10:55] <AThomsen> pbureau: tab
[10:55] <rand> thanks Pelo
[10:55] <Pelo> keen101,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:55] <gonzoism> javaJake i'm not afraid of crashing anything...  i'm a long time lfs-er  :)
[10:55] <AThomsen> pbureau: You can see all controls in the manual: "man alsamixer"
[10:55] <gonzoism> keen101 its ok to ask here
[10:55] <keen101> Pelo, be quiet. :)
[10:56] <AThomsen> pbureau: - but capture is for recording
[10:56] <eyl> Anyone have time to answer some theme/desktop/driver questions that have been bothering me? PM me please.
[10:56] <ConstyXIV> is there any way to install kubuntu-desktop, but hold onto the ubuntu bootsplash?
[10:56] <keen101> :P
[10:56] <gonzoism> keen101 it is working good.  i haven't had anything crash.  haven't ran into any bugs except for the one that makes my computer freeze.  had it in feisty too.
[10:56] <Pelo> Seveas,  please kick keen101
[10:56] <javaJake> rand, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[10:56] <martyna> hey ;p
[10:56] <javaJake> rand, that is an EXCELLENT HOWTO
[10:56] <pbureau> AThomsen, hummm all where MM hang on a sec
[10:56] <javaJake> rand, I followed that myself, good stuff
[10:56] <Seveas> Pelo, why?
[10:56] <Pelo> cause
[10:57] <Pelo> he's mean to me
[10:57] <javaJake> gonzoism, Oh, OK
[10:57] <gonzoism> ConstyXIV there is a bootsplash howto.  you can install any bootsplash. :)
[10:57] <javaJake> :)
[10:57] <keen101> gonzoism, that's good to hear. (except for your original bug)
[10:57] <Seveas> Pelo, then use /ignore
[10:57] <keen101> pelo, I'm not being mean.
[10:57] <Pelo> Seveas,  please
[10:57] <gonzoism> how do i unignore chanserv ?
[10:57] <javaJake> Pelo, I vouch for keen101
[10:58] <Seveas> Pelo, this behaviour only gets yourself kicked
[10:58] <Pelo> ...
[10:58] <timposey> Does anyone know how to start the jack audio server?
[10:58] <Pelo> way to kill my little joke ppl
[10:58] <keen101> I signed the Ubuntu code of conduct. so, I am not allowed to be mean.
[10:58] <Seveas> Pelo, not funny. You're wasting my time
[10:58] <pbureau> humm still no go.. weird
[10:58] <javaJake> keen101, heheh
[10:58] <javaJake> keen101, Oooo, I didn't sign.
[10:59] <olskolirc> im using ubuntu fiesty fawn.  what version of qt-designer do i want?
[10:59] <olskolirc> 3 or 4
[10:59] <Lindar> Okay, I've run into another problem.
[10:59] <Lindar> >_<
[10:59] <fellacious> any way to see which processes are using the network/filesystem?
[10:59] <javaJake> Lindar, joys
[10:59] <javaJake> :P
[10:59] <gonzoism> olskolirc newest version....
[10:59] <olskolirc> ok thanks
[10:59] <keen101> javaJake, enjoy your freedom while you can.  *just kidding*
[11:00] <AThomsen> timposey: "jackd -b alsa"
[11:00] <Lindar> The thing says I need the windows drivers, and I have them (wgt111t_blah blah blah.exe), but the readme says I need an .inf file...
[11:00] <Seveas> fellacious, netstat / lsof
[11:00] <javaJake> keen101, well, I will for as long as I can, but those Ubuntu administrators... they can be pretty persuasive. :)
[11:00] <AThomsen> timposey: sorry, that's: jackd -d alsa
[11:00] <fellacious> seveas: omg ty !!
[11:00] <Esteth> hmm. update manager is telling me theres an update availible from compiz-core, but it's an update to the same version i allready have, and as such, updating does not dismiss the "YOU SHOULD UPDATE PLEASE!" indicator. How do i manually dismiss it, or say "I dont want this update" ?
[11:00] <ecaandrew> whats up everyone
[11:00] <keen101> javaJake, heh. yeah.
[11:01] <keen101> :)
[11:01] <Pelo> ecaandrew, our collective stress level
[11:01] <Xplicit> how do i mount a reiser4 partiton
[11:01] <ecaandrew> lol =]
[11:01] <kiosk> Can anyone name a Free VOIP PC to Phone service
[11:01] <Lindar> So... my question is: Where do I get this supposed inf file for my drivers?
[11:01] <Lamego> Esteth, it is not the same version according to the update manager version comparison
[11:01] <javaJake> Lindar, oh, yea, yeap
[11:01] <Seveas> Esteth, please pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy compiz-core'
[11:01] <ecaandrew> question
[11:01] <javaJake> Lindar, #ndiswrapper
[11:01] <sarixe> kiosk : skype used to be free... i haven't been able to find a good one since
[11:01] <javaJake> Lindar, they will know
[11:01] <javaJake> Lindar, I could tell you, but I'm leaving, so. :(
[11:02] <kiosk> i heard voipCheap but its not for Linux :(
[11:02] <Lindar> Thank you. ^_^
[11:02] <dane> if a comp/laptop runs the UBuntu LiveCD well is it safe to assume that it will handle the install just as well with the driver and everything?
[11:02] <Pelo> Xplicit,   sudo mount reiserfs /dev/whaever /mountpoint
[11:02] <sarixe> dane : pretty much
[11:02] <Seveas> Pelo, you forgot the -t :) (mount -t reiserfs)
[11:02] <kiosk> sarixe how d you do that: text in red is that a PM
[11:02] <dane> ok cool, thank you much sarixe
[11:02] <javaJake> dane, yes, 90% chance everything's good then
[11:02] <javaJake> dane, LiveCD is _the_ way to test Ubuntu before installing
[11:02] <sarixe> kiosk : it's just because it has your nick in ot
[11:02] <Pelo> Seveas, I stand corrected
[11:02] <sarixe> it*
[11:03] <javaJake> dane, need I say the only way? :)
[11:03] <Pelo> Xplicit,   sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/whaever /mountpoint
[11:03] <Esteth> seveas: http://pastebin.com/d263580b6
[11:03] <kiosk> oh cool
[11:03] <keen101> dane, sometimes you have small problems. But, they are easy to fix. (usually)
[11:03] <Xplicit> mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiser4'
[11:03] <dane> point well made :p thanks guys :-)
[11:03] <javaJake> keen101, except for kernel crashes. Darn uncatchable kernel crashes.
[11:03] <ecaandrew> question: I am trying to use zend to write files to /var/www/html, but it says permission denied? do I have to be logged in as root or what?
[11:03] <javaJake> Well, I have to fly
[11:03] <javaJake> TTYL everyone
[11:03] <Seveas> Esteth, you're using PPA's -- those are unsupported
[11:03] <sarixe> Xplicit : sudo apt-get install reiser4progs
[11:03] <sarixe> i believe
[11:04] <kiosk> sarixe do you need the : colon there?
[11:04] <AThomsen> Isn't Reiser4 still in the making?
[11:04] <sarixe> kiosk : no, i just put it in
[11:04] <Seveas> AThomsen, it is
[11:04] <Xplicit> sarixe: i already have
[11:04] <sarixe> o
[11:04] <javaJake> ecaandrew, no, run "sudo addgroup <yourusername> www-data"
[11:04] <Pelo> ecaandrew, use sudo before your command
[11:04] <javaJake> ecaandrew, that will give you permissions to edit /var/www
[11:04] <Esteth> Seveas: Oh, ok. Was just following the instructions on the ubuntu forums for installing compiz fusion
[11:04] <Seveas> AThomsen, reiser3 is unmaintained and reiser4 unfinished. Reiserfs is a terrible choice
[11:04] <Esteth> Seveas: Thanks for the help :)
[11:04] <ecaandrew> javaJake: what is www-data?
[11:04] <javaJake> Pelo, ecaandrew no, don't use sudo for www stuff - add yourself to the allowed www users
[11:04] <Seveas> Esteth, if you want to use compiz, use gutsy. It's in there
[11:04] <kiosk> sarixe  coolness thanks
[11:05] <kestaz> how to back from gutsy to feisty ?
[11:05] <javaJake> ecaandrew, it's a group of users who are allowed to edit /var/www. Simple as that
[11:05] <sarixe> Seveas : reiserfs is a bad choice? why?
[11:05] <Seveas> kestaz, you can't
[11:05] <javaJake> Pelo, sry. :P
[11:05] <Esteth> Seveas: I didn't know gutsy was even out yet, or if it was stable, or if the beta was open, or anything :P
[11:05] <sarixe> Seveas : and what's a better alternative?
[11:05] <ecaandrew> thanks jake
[11:05] <Seveas> sarixe, reiser3 is unmaintained and reiser4 unfinished
[11:05] <javaJake> Pelo, your idea was going to work, but it was less secure
[11:05] <AThomsen> Heh. Was Hans ever convicted?
[11:05] <javaJake> ecaandrew, there are all kinds of groups on your system, and this one is for /var/www access
[11:05] <Seveas> sarixe, good old ext3 is good
[11:05] <Seveas> sarixe, or xfs for some purposes
[11:05] <Xplicit> Esteth: http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/ feisty eyecandy  has compliz in the repos
[11:05] <javaJake> ecaandrew, there's groups for log access, sudo administration, etc.
[11:05] <javaJake> So, now i"m really leaving
[11:05] <javaJake> Enjoy everyone
[11:06] <Seveas> Xplicit, that repo is on crack :)
[11:06] <javaJake>  /leave #ubuntu
[11:06] <javaJake> Dang
[11:06] <frimjon_> Awkward.
[11:06] <sarixe> Seveas : is reiserfs a horrible choice though?  i mean, i've used it, and there were no troubles
[11:06] <Seveas> sarixe, I'd rather not used unmaintained and/or unfinished code for important parts of the kernel
[11:06] <sarixe> true
[11:06] <Seveas> sarixe, and the problems with reiser I've had... *shiver*
[11:06] <timposey> Athomsen;  I ran that command and got the following but it still does not work... JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
[11:07] <timposey> loading driver ..
[11:07] <timposey> creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[11:07] <timposey> control device hw:0
[11:07] <timposey> configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
[11:07] <timposey> ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian
[11:07] <Seveas> thank god for backups :)
[11:07] <Xplicit> Seveas: reiserfs is maintained and a supported choice for many distros, linux isnt finished
[11:07] <timposey> ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
[11:07] <timposey> ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 16bit little-endian
[11:07] <sarixe> Seveas : alright then, ext3 it is.  what's xfs good for?
[11:07] <nickrud> lol
[11:07] <AThomsen> But is reiser3 really unmaintained - doesn't Suse use it?
[11:07] <Anlar> AThomsen: suse desided to get rid of it
[11:07] <Esteth> Xplicit: I'm a complete Linux newb, so i don't even know how to download the right stuff from that repo. I'm probably best to stick with fiesty for the time being
[11:07] <Seveas> AThomsen, suse ditched it semi-recently
[11:07] <sarixe> AThomsen : just because it's unmaintained doesn't mean it's unused
[11:07] <mardi> salut
[11:07] <Pelo> isnT, reiser in prison or someting ?
[11:07] <Seveas> sarixe, ext3 doesn't like dirs with many files (thousands) in it
[11:08] <Anlar> Pelo: no, but might be real soon.
[11:08] <Xplicit> Esteth: your not changing from fiesty just adding a source of programs
[11:08] <Seveas> sarixe, performance goes down when that happens, where xfs appears to be ok
[11:08] <Seveas> sarixe, but xfs has its own problems as well :)
[11:08] <ecaandrew> javajake: it said this
[11:08] <Anlar> Seveas: oh, how true. ext3 sucks with large directories. that is why I use XFS always everywhere
[11:08] <ecaandrew> javaJake: Adding user `andrew' to group `www-data' ...
[11:08] <ecaandrew> Done.
[11:08] <ecaandrew> but i stil can't write to /var/www
[11:08] <Anlar> deleting a file from a directory with 100 000 files using ext3 is painful experience
[11:08] <sarixe> Seveas : does that include directories with a few hundred subdirectories, with each sub only having a few files?
[11:08] <Xplicit> Seveas: ext3 is also good for windows compatibility
[11:08] <ehc> following the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413626 but apt-get can't find w32codecs anyone know what is up?
[11:09] <Seveas> sarixe, probably
[11:09] <ecaandrew> wait
[11:09] <ecaandrew> yes i can
[11:09] <ecaandrew> sorry
[11:09] <ecaandrew> javajake: works
[11:09] <Seveas> Xplicit, isn't there an xfs driver for windows yet?
[11:09] <ecaandrew> lol
[11:09] <keen101> ecaandrew,  just so you know. javajake left the room.
[11:09] <Xplicit> ive only ever seen ext2
[11:09] <ecaandrew> oh lol
[11:09] <sarixe> Seveas : like, one directory, 20 sub, and each of the 20 sub has 10 sub under that, and each of the 10 has like 5 files.
[11:09] <ecaandrew> =[ <-- noob
[11:09] <F00BaR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34213/
[11:09] <keen101> Buck_Rogers, I used to love that game.
[11:09] <F00BaR> can anyone help with that please
[11:09] <Seveas> sarixe, neh, that's no problem at all
[11:09] <sarixe> ah
[11:09] <Anlar> sarixe: that's not quite bad. worse are single large directories.
[11:10] <Esteth> Xplicit: Ok, so having a non-working compiz-fusion working, how would i get a working compiz-fusion from that repo?
[11:10] <sarixe> right
[11:10] <muszek> hi... anyone got a dell laptop?  I just ordered inspiron 1720 (wiping windows right away - I just need a big screen than 1420N's) in USA and need to know how AC adaptor's socket looks like before I receive it (in Europe).  is it like this?  http://muszek.mine.nu/temp/power1.jpg .  I'm talking about this socket: [laptop]  --- [socket - AC ADAPTER - this socket]  --- [wall]
[11:10] <AThomsen> timposey: what errors do you get?
[11:10] <sarixe> i'm outta here
[11:10] <timposey> seveas:  so can you tell me why I was disconnected from the channel at your request?
[11:10] <b52doc> I installed Wine and downloaded Day of Defeat but it freezes at the main screen with no buttons or images. Anyone know a fix ?
[11:10] <Xplicit> o im not sure, didnt know what your problem was, thought you just wanted the lastest version, thats in the repos, whats your problem?
[11:10] <Anlar> sarixe: ext2 on those large directories is quite cpu intensive if compared to for instance raiser or xfs (because they have done a lot mroe pre-work anyways)
[11:11] <F00BaR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34213/ - can anyone help with that please
[11:11] <Seveas> timposey, for flooding. Please don't paste large amounts in here
[11:11] <Yono> hey
[11:11] <Xplicit> b52doc: does steam work fine?
[11:11] <keen101> ecaandrew,  heh. we have all been there. (and perhaps will be there again) :)
[11:11] <Yono> how can I have conky access my battery information?
[11:11] <b52doc> Xplicit: works great
[11:11] <Seveas> F00BaR, please paste the complete dpkg output. You didn't include the actual error
[11:11] <rsk> b52doc: read the appdb?
[11:11] <ecaandrew> lol yay :)
[11:11] <Pingviller> any tips for a good IM that actually can transfer files (and can handle webcam) properly to msn without the 100 bytes/sec-crap? :P
[11:11] <b52doc> rsk: whats the appdb ?
[11:11] <Anlar> b52doc: Steam is at gold level I think, it will just work.
[11:12] <Pelo> muszek, voltage in the usa and in europe aren'T the same it's not just a matter of what the adaptor looks like
[11:12] <foreman> hey, need a bit of help. Whenever i try to install xubuntu-desktop on either of my g3 imacs they freeze up
[11:12] <Xplicit> Anlar: he was loosing the argument so hes gone
[11:12] <rsk> b52doc: application database for wine
[11:12] <Anlar> Pingviller: MSN live mssenger, on Windows :)
[11:12] <steph_16th> FOOBaR: look at the mysql doc, there sould be a list of dependencies
[11:12] <b52doc> rsk: I think so, steam works great, just Day of Defeat doesnt work
[11:12] <Anlar> Xplicit: what argument lol :)
[11:12] <driver2> can anyone tell me how can anyone tell me how I can make the single buttons (windows) in the windows list fixed width?
[11:12] <F00BaR> Seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34214/
[11:12] <Xplicit> b52doc: what WM are you using?
[11:12] <Pingviller> Anlar: go home! :P
[11:13] <Xplicit> Anlar: that ext3 is the only possible choice for a file system
[11:13] <b52doc> xplicit: whats WM ?
[11:13] <Anlar> b52doc: yeah well, Steam is just a p2p client with some extra stuff.. and Steam's support is really different from the games distributed via Steam. :)
[11:13] <timposey> Athomson:  it just says that MusE failed to find a Jack audio server... MusE will continue without audio support (-a switch)!
[11:13] <Seveas> F00BaR, looks like you hit a bug
[11:13] <Pelo> driver2,  right click on one,  check in the properties
[11:13] <F00BaR> Seveas :(
[11:13] <muszek> Pelo: I know, but I was told here yesterday that most laptops handle both 110 and 220/230.  take a look at my sister's laptop's AC (also bought in US): http://muszek.mine.nu/temp/power2.jpg notice it says "INPUT 100V-240V"
[11:13] <zipper> I cant use my mouse in quake3, not even in the menu. It seems to register when i click the buttons though. What could be wrong? Default cfg btw
[11:13] <Seveas> F00BaR, try dpkg -P mysql-server
[11:13] <Xplicit> gnome/KDE/XFCE if your on a ubuntu install ill assume that your on gnome
[11:13] <Pelo> driver2,  sorry right click in the free space to the left of one and check in hte properties
[11:13] <Anlar> Xplicit: ah :) I'd wish for the ext4 to become better than the previous ones... because ext3 is bad.
[11:14] <Seveas> F00BaR, try dpkg -P mysql-server-4.1 as well
[11:14] <F00BaR> root@Jup:~# dpkg -P mysql-server
[11:14] <F00BaR> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-server which isn't installed.
[11:14] <F00BaR> root@Jup:~#
[11:14] <timposey> Athomsen:  it just says that MusE failed to find a Jack audio server... MusE will continue without audio support (-a switch)!
[11:14] <Steve^> Is there a package to have individual volume control for each program, like in Vista?
[11:14] <muszek> Pelo: so I guess it will be similar... now all I need to know if Dell's adapters use the same sockets (anyone?  http://muszek.mine.nu/temp/power1.jpg )
[11:14] <F00BaR> root@Jup:~# dpkg -P mysql-server-4.1 as well
[11:14] <F00BaR> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-server-4.1 which isn't installed.
[11:14] <F00BaR> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove as which isn't installed.
[11:14] <F00BaR> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove well which isn't installed.
[11:14] <F00BaR> root@Jup:~#
[11:14] <Seveas> F00BaR, don't paste in here please...
[11:14] <F00BaR> ah
[11:14] <F00BaR> sorry
[11:14] <F00BaR> forgot to pastebin
[11:14] <F00BaR> wont happen again
[11:14] <AThomsen> timposey: Strange. If you ran jackd -d alsa with no errors it should be running. Did you try restarting Muse after starting the jack server?
[11:14] <driver2> Pelo, I dont see an option for it
[11:15] <Seveas> hmm, looks like the error was early enough in the install process
[11:15] <Seveas> F00BaR, dpkg -P mysql-server-5.0
[11:15] <Creed> Need some help regarding an old HP that keeps losing connectivity to the Internet...all local resources work fine when Internet is lost but everything else is fine. I can ping local resources from it, other PC's can ping like Google...just this one machine cant. Ive installed XP, Ubuntu, RedHat etc so its not software...any help would be nice
[11:15] <driver2> on the size tab it only changes the size of the whole bar
[11:15] <Seveas> if that also fails: dpkg -l | grep mysql
[11:15] <Pelo> driver2,  right click just to the left of the letfest most button,  select properties,   second tab
[11:15] <F00BaR> Seveas remove databases
[11:15] <F00BaR> ?
[11:15] <Xplicit> b52doc:  my dod  worked fine on kde/XFCE but that was a while ago and i no longer have it so i cant help sorry
[11:15] <Seveas> F00BaR, no
[11:16] <b52doc> xplicit: cool thanks anyways
[11:16] <driver2> Pelo, on the size tab it only changes the size of the whole bar
[11:16] <timposey> Athomsen; yes that is when it gives me the message..
[11:16] <F00BaR> Seveas ok i pressed no
[11:16] <Pelo> driver2,  hmm , maybe in gconf-editor then , under /apps/pannel
[11:16] <Pelo> somewhere
[11:17] <Xplicit> how do i get mount to know the filesytem type 'reiser4'
[11:17] <F00BaR> Seveas what else do i do
[11:17] <Pelo> Xplicit,   man mount
[11:17] <leagris> Creed, you could investigate dmesg and /var/log/messages for what happend when our HP loos connectivity to the net
[11:17] <Seveas> F00BaR, move /var/lib/mysql to some place safe as backup and do whatever you were originally doing
[11:17] <erUSUL> Xplicit: well raiser4 is still not widely used maybe the mount in feisty can't work with it?
[11:18] <Lindar> Hi hi. I've managed to install ndiswrapper and the correct drivers, but now what do I do? How to I make it actually use the wifi card, and how to I make it connect to my wireless router?
[11:18] <foreman> hey, need a bit of help. Whenever i try to install xubuntu-desktop on either of my g3 imacs they freeze up
[11:18] <leagris> Creed, espetially look if interface goes down, if it is getting new DHCP lease...
[11:18] <Xplicit> are there any alternatives to the mount in fiesty
[11:18] <kiosk> heres a list
[11:18] <kiosk> Voips
[11:18] <kiosk> http://www.voipnow.org/2007/04/want_free_voip_.html
[11:18] <Creed> leagris, its statically assigned an IP so DHCP shouldnt be an issue.
[11:18] <AThomsen> timposey: Try to install "qjackctl". It gives a graphical control of Jack
[11:18] <timposey> Athomson: cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are:     =ep cap_setpcap-ep  probably running under a kernel with capabilities disabled,  a suitable kernel would have printed something like "=eip"
[11:18] <kiosk> but none say if they are linux on this page
[11:19] <AThomsen> timposey: Where does that come from?
[11:19] <asdf> how can you convert MOV to MPG or OGG ?
[11:19] <leagris> Creed, what type of net linke does it uses? Ethernet, wireless?
[11:19] <F00BaR> Seveas done
[11:19] <timposey> Athomsen:  I got the above message when I just run jackstart from the terminal
[11:20] <Steve^> Is there a package to have individual volume control for each program, like in Vista?
[11:20] <MongooseWA> I'm interesting in buying a Logitech G5 7-button mouse, and I'm wondering if it'll work with linux. It has proprietaty "SetPoint" software that I'm worried about.
[11:20] <MongooseWA> http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10006393
[11:20] <Seveas> Steve^, no
[11:20] <Lindar> I've managed to install ndiswrapper and the drivers for my device, but I'm a little lost on what to do after that. Can anybody assist me?
[11:20] <brohken> is there a way for me to install the latest nvidia driver and then edit the xorg.conf file so it will use them?
[11:20] <Steve^> Is there anyway to mute flash?
[11:20] <erUSUL> asdf: check ffmpeg
[11:20] <Creed> leagris, both heh its connected via wired to a Fonera with OpenWRT which a wireless client to a AP
[11:20] <Seveas> Steve^, mute all sound (flash sucks when it comes to sound integration)
[11:20] <F00BaR> Seveas after i moved it do i delete it?
[11:20] <AThomsen> timposey: The default linux kernel in Ubuntu is not compiled with realtime capabilities (I think). I don't think that's nescecaryy though. Did you try qjackctl ?
[11:21] <asdf> erUSUL: do you know the command?
[11:21] <Seveas> F00BaR, only if you're sure you don't need it
[11:21] <brohken> is there a way for me to install the latest nvidia driver and then edit the xorg.conf file so it will use them?
[11:21] <Steve^> Seveas, sadly my problem is the flash thing I'm using it interrupting my music. Thanks anyway
[11:21] <timposey> Athomsen; trying it now
[11:21] <F00BaR> Seveas i dunno
[11:21] <Seveas> F00BaR, then just keep it :)
[11:21] <F00BaR> i get the same error
[11:22] <AThomsen> timposey: If you are going to use your PC primary for sound production, you could try the ubuntu-studio distribution. I thing that comes with a realtime kernel as default.
[11:22] <Seveas> F00BaR, why do you specifically want mysql 4.1 (unsupported) instead of 5.0 (supported)?
[11:22] <jacekowski> !restricted
[11:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <jacekowski> thx
[11:22] <kiosk> Internet calls is also free voip PC to phone but like voipcheap   windows only
[11:22] <Creed> leagris, i tried with another NIC and another Fonera...even a direct wired connection and it still just loses all connectivity outside my subnet.
[11:22] <F00BaR> Seveas i dont
[11:22] <leagris> Creed, when it loos connectivity, can you still join the AP itself?
[11:22] <F00BaR> i just want this to work
[11:22] <AThomsen> brohken: try www.albertomilone.com and look for his "Envy" script
[11:22] <sacamano> Does anyone know the channel for Novell Evolution? I'm having trouble setting up a POP account
[11:22] <Seveas> F00BaR, then why are you installing it? :)
[11:23] <MongooseWA> I'm interesting in buying a Logitech G5 7-button mouse, and I'm wondering if it'll work with linux. It has proprietaty "SetPoint" software that I'm worried about.
[11:23] <Seveas> AThomsen, envy is crap and unsupported
[11:23] <timposey> AThomsen; All I am trying to do is play midi files and for some reason they will not produce sound
[11:23] <F00BaR> im not its the actual installer
[11:23] <Seveas> !envy | AThomsen
[11:23] <ubotu> AThomsen: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:23] <F00BaR> its a sh installer
[11:23] <Creed> leagris, yeah its connected and the Fonera itself still has access (ping google.com has a reply, ping google.com from the HP no reply)
[11:23] <Seveas> F00BaR, then the sh installer is broken
[11:23] <Seveas> what are you installing?
[11:23] <AThomsen> Sorry, it just works fine for me :-)
[11:24] <Seveas> !worksforme | AThomsen
[11:24] <ubotu> AThomsen: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[11:24] <kane77> how can I turn off the desktop effects when I run certain program and turn them on again after it finished?
[11:24] <F00BaR> how do i pre-install mysql 5
[11:24] <Seveas> kane77, in the terminal, run this to disable it: metacity --replace
[11:24] <Seveas> and to enable it: compiz --replace
[11:24] <Delirium> hi, i need a special library-file "libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2" but i cant find it on my system. i tried the debian package search to find the package that provides this file but it did not find anything... is there another way to find the package that provides libc6.1 for ubuntu (Feisty)
[11:24] <Seveas> F00BaR, sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[11:25] <driver2> Pelo, I cant find something :(
[11:25] <Seveas> !find libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[11:25] <AThomsen> Seveas: Well, is it better/safer for him/her to compile it from nvidias homepage?
[11:25] <ubotu> Package/file libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 does not exist in feisty
[11:25] <leagris> Creed, does the link between the HP and the fonera still work when net is lost?
[11:25] <F00BaR> ok thank you
[11:25] <kane77> Seveas, so I should write a script that would do metacity --replace; program; compiz -- replace?
[11:25] <Pelo> driver2, that,s all I have sorry
[11:25] <Seveas> AThomsen, safest is to use the drivers from ubuntu's packages
[11:25] <Seveas> kane77, that's an option
[11:25] <AThomsen> SEveas: He asked about the latest
[11:25] <Creed> leagris, yeah, I can access the fonera fine, I can access my home network fully, its just everything outside my home network that stops working.
[11:25] <Seveas> !commonsense | AThomsen
[11:25] <ubotu> AThomsen: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:25] <timposey> Athomsen:  I installed the control, now where do i access it?
[11:26] <Seveas> see last part of that :)
[11:26] <AThomsen> Seveas: He just asked for the latest - if it's unstable is his problem :-)
[11:26] <AThomsen> timposey: Just hit Alt+F2 and type qjackctl
[11:26] <Delirium> ubotu: so that makes it more difficult to find :-(    i hate programms that are only shipped as rpms
[11:27] <Seveas> AThomsen, that's bad attitude for this channel. We generally don't help people break their system
[11:27] <Nuxien-Boy> hi dimi
[11:27] <AThomsen> Seveas: Sorry bout that
[11:27] <brohken> will the vesa driver work with nvidia?
[11:28] <Seveas> brohken, yes
[11:28] <leagris> Creed, I know nothing about what's specific to the fonera. Is the fonera AP the default route and DNS relay for the HP or does the HP have direct acces to outside DSN services?
[11:28] <bur[n] er> brohken:  it will work, but nv will work better, and nvidia better still
[11:28] <AThomsen> Brohken: Or the "nv" driver
[11:28] <kiosk> think I found one
[11:29] <Creed> leagris, lets try this without the fonera since I still have the issue with a direct wired ethernet connection to my router. I have replaced everything outside the HP itself and even the NIC and OS to no avail...maybe something in the machine itself that's glitchy?
[11:29] <kiosk> Free VOIP PC to Phone  for LINUX !  :)
[11:29] <kiosk> http://www.gizmoproject.com/index.php
[11:29] <Creed> kiosk, :O you didnt know about gizmo?!
[11:30] <jefisme03_> hi
[11:30] <kiosk> crap its nt free
[11:30] <kiosk> the other article said PC t phone was free
[11:30] <kiosk> only sneaky
[11:31] <kiosk> but the site says it isn't free period
[11:31] <leagris> Creed, though the link between your HP and the router still is ok when you loos net connectivity. I guess there are still questions regarding DNS availability. When it loose net, did you try to ping NET IP instead of relying on host names?
[11:32] <xubu_> how can i upgrade my Xorg in feisty to 1.3
[11:32] <Creed> leagris, yeah, the IP's do not resolve either so its not a DNS issue...I have several DNS servers running locally too and they can resolve the addresses for the HP, but the HP cant connect to the addresses.
[11:32] <ehc> should I need w32codecs to play dvds?
[11:32] <rsk> ehc: no
[11:32] <Seveas> !dvd | ehc
[11:32] <ubotu> ehc: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:32] <Escallion> just libdvdcss
[11:33] <Escallion> hey guys.  i got the new fdis from here for my dell laptop http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=hal-info.git;a=blob_plain;f=fdi/information/10freedesktop/30-keymap-dell.fdi . restarted hall . i can see them when i run lshal but i m still  atkdb.c codes  in dmesg. I m running hal <IP_ADDRESS>. Does any one know whats wrong ?
[11:33] <AThomsen> xubu_: What? The latest is 7.2
[11:33] <reverie> Hi guys.
[11:33] <brohken> i did it!!!!!!!
[11:33] <brohken> qahhhhh
[11:34] <pbureau> question : whatpackage do I need for lncurses to be installed ?
[11:34] <reverie> Does anyone have any useful guides on getting ubuntu 7.04 working with the Intel X3100 ?
[11:34] <Seveas> xubu_, you really, really don't want to do that... chances that you break something or your entire system are quite high if you know as little about it as you
[11:34] <xubu_> AThomsen: i mean Xorg Server 1.3
[11:36] <xubu_> Seveas: So your telling me i might as well go with gutsy if i want 1.3?
[11:36] <leagris> Creed, If link doesn't go down for the LAN, I guess there is something on the lan preventing your boox from accessing the net and it is unlikely the HP itself. Another host declaring or trying to declare the same IP would interfere as well
[11:36] <Seveas> xubu_, that's at least a better option than trying 1.3 on feisty
[11:36] <ehc> what is w32codecs? I don't need them to play dvds, so what do I need them for?
[11:36] <leagris> Creed, thow hosts with the same IP on the LAN. Some client connecting the lan, obtaining a DHCP lease with th static ip your HP uses
[11:37] <Seveas> ehc, wmv/wma and some other codecs
[11:37] <Pelo> ehc,  everthing else
[11:37] <xubu_> Seveas: Thanks for the caution
[11:37] <Creed> leagris, Ive checked most everything I could think of...There all PC's are statically assigned IP's and nothing else has the same on as it. DHCP is disabled so no host should be able to grab a random IP.
[11:37] <Creed> leagris, I just cant figure it out :( I've changed everything in the HP aside from the mobo so Im guessing its that...Ah well, new mobos are like $20 nowdays :)
[11:38] <leagris> Creed, does this fonera AP provide DHCP lease for other fonera clients I guess fonera is a free AP providing free NET connectivity to unknown wireless clients
[11:38] <ehc> Seveas, Pelo I cannot apt-get install w32codecs it says it isn't a installation candidate?
[11:38] <Seveas> !w32codecs | ehc
[11:38] <ubotu> ehc: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:38] <brohken> how do i install the nvidia driver and edit the xorg file correctly so it works?
[11:38] <nblracer> What is the command to start Gnome from command prompt/ terminal
[11:39] <xubu_> Seveas: Is there anyways i can upgrade to gutsy without a reinstall? id liket o keep all my config
[11:39] <leagris> Creed, did you try providing another static IP to the HP?
[11:39] <Creed> leagris, I've disabled the AP function on this Fonera since I got a new Fonera+ which I use to share my Internet...And that AP is on a completely different line (its on Qwest ISP, my home network is on Comcast) so it cant be that.
[11:39] <Seveas> !upgrade | xubu_
[11:39] <ubotu> xubu_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:39] <Pelo> nblracer,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:39] <xubu_> Seveas: thanks again
[11:39] <Pelo> I think
[11:39] <nblracer> thanls pelo
[11:40] <Esteth> I'm running dual monitors in xinerama, and want to use compiz, but i get this error when i try to "compiz --replace": http://pastebin.com/d4c91a667
[11:40] <Creed> leagris, yup, tried a few different IP's to no avail
[11:40] <Pelo> Esteth,  you need to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[11:40] <Esteth> Pelo: OK
[11:40] <brohken> does anyone know how i can get my wireless to work?
[11:40] <brohken> i have an atheros card
[11:40] <AThomsen> brohken: You'll need to use the "madwifi" driver
[11:41] <Seveas> brohken, that should work out of the box
[11:41] <leagris> sorry Creed I have no more clue about your problem. Sorry that didn't help.
[11:41] <asdf> how do you make mplayer the default media player?
[11:41] <Creed> leagris, heh its ok :) im just tired of racking my own brain thought Id ask someone else
[11:42] <AThomsen> asdf: rightclick a video-file. Select properties -> Open with -> select the radio button in front of gmplayer
[11:42] <Pelo> asdf,  you select a video file,  right click   protperties,  open with , select,  repeat for each file type
[11:42] <brohken> AThomsen, can you tell me how to install it?
[11:42] <asdf> Pelo, AThomsen: mplayer does not show up in that list
[11:42] <Oliazk> question for some one with rt2500
[11:42] <AThomsen> brohken: It should be installed by default. Do you use WPA?
[11:43] <Pelo> asdf,  there is a button at the bottom for other app
[11:43] <Pelo> asdf,  you need mplayer installed of course
[11:43] <osxdude|laptop> Anyone know of a session recorder besides istanbul?
[11:44] <Ahadiel> osxdude|laptop: recordmydesktop
[11:44] <Ahadiel> and get the GTK frontend for it
[11:46] <osxdude|laptop> Ahadeil, what is the GTK Frontend package name for recordmydesktop?
[11:47] <osxdude|laptop> (wow this is the quietest it has been since I started idleing
[11:47] <Pelo> osxdude|laptop, it should show up in synaptic if you search for recordmydesktop
[11:47] <Ahadiel> osxdude|laptop: do apt-cache search recordmydesktpo
[11:47] <Ahadiel> err desktop** rather
[11:47] <osxdude|laptop> oh
[11:47] <Ahadiel> it'll show up as GTK something
[11:48] <osxdude|laptop> I decided to open Synaptic
[11:48] <Pelo> ATTENTION EVERYONE,  ALL THE ISSUES WITH FEISTY HAVE BEEN RESOLVED , PLEASE REPORT TO #UBUNTU+1 FOR GUTSY TRANING
[11:48] <osxdude|laptop> thanks
[11:48] <osxdude|laptop> Really?
[11:48] <alvanson> I've got a very odd suspend/resume problem.  Once my system comes out of resume, I get a password dialog, but I can't type in my password (the text box will not accept my input).  I'm using feisty and the nvidia drivers
[11:48] <alvanson> and compiz
[11:49] <Pelo> alvanson, several ppl have this problem I think there is a fix in the forum but I am not sure
[11:49] <lindar> Hi hi. Just a quick question. I'm a first-time linux user running Ubuntu. Right now the max resolution it'll give me is 1024x768, but I'm used to having it run at 1600x1200. Is there any way I can force it to go to that resolution?
[11:49] <alvanson> Pelo, any idea of a better search string?  I've been looking under "cannot enter password on resume"
[11:50] <osxdude|laptop> Do you have a wireless device, alvanson?
[11:50] <JDLimbo> any advice on using ubuntu to watch movies on the tv using s-video?
[11:50] <Pelo> lindar,  you need to add the extra reslotion manualy to the xorg.conf file,   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:50] <brohken> anyone can guide me to setup wireless?
[11:50] <alvanson> osxdude|laptop, yes.
[11:50] <Pelo> alvanson, suspend password ,   hibernate password
[11:50] <Pelo> !wifi | brohken
[11:50] <ubotu> brohken: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <osxdude|laptop> alvanson, then that is why. It is a bug an  offical bug in ubuntu
[11:51] <AThomsen> brohken: did you find your driver in the resricted driver manager?
[11:51] <alvanson> osxdude|laptop, if I disable LOCK_SCREEN in acpi-support, coming out of resume work properly
[11:51] <osxdude|laptop> When you suspend, your wireless device is virtually unplugged.
[11:51] <osxdude|laptop> ah
[11:52] <ehc> If I add http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/feisty-seveas/all/ to my sources.list should I be able to do apt-get install ubuntu-multimedia-kde ?
[11:52] <threethirty> hi all
[11:52] <brohken> i cant see my wireless connections
[11:52] <rsk> threethirty: let's hope not everybody replies now lol
[11:53] <brohken> but i do seem to be connecting
[11:53] <rsk> 1100 ppl in here :D
[11:53] <Seveas> ehc, no, you should add it as: deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ feisty-seveas all
[11:53] <paritosh> my root filesystem is being mounted as readonly. i tried to mount a separate partition as /var but i guess it didnt work
[11:53] <paritosh> anybody please help
[11:54] <threethirty> im building a box, just for websurfing, for some one, how do you guys/girls/others think feisty with gnome will run on a amd k6-2 with 184 mb of ram
[11:54] <AThomsen> brohken: So what's the problem :-)
[11:54] <rsk> threethirty: pretty bad
[11:54] <c01100011> how do I install a .cgwdtheme ?
[11:54] <rsk> threethirty: get a light wm and it should run god
[11:54] <Pelo> paritosh,  your root partiton is not read only is it root access , you need to use sudo to do stuff on it
[11:54] <rsk> threethirty: gnome will be laggy
[11:55] <threethirty> rsk: you think xubuntu will be ok
[11:55] <alvanson> osxdude|laptop, I fixed the wireless problem (it's a matter of commenting out everything in /etc/network/interfaces)
[11:55] <Tobysun> Heey Leute!!!
[11:55] <Pelo> c01100011,  where did you get this theme ?
[11:55] <rsk> threethirty: maybe, havent tried it
[11:55] <ehc> Seveas, I did, but apt-get install ubuntu-multimedia-kde but apt says it can't fund the package
[11:55] <alvanson> osxdude|laptop, still can't type my password.  However, I CAN kill X and switch to different consoles
[11:55] <paritosh> Pelo, no its mounted as read only. Its kind of messed up now. I tried to mount /var as a different partition but something went wrong. Now I cant boot into ubntu
[11:55] <c01100011> Pelo, Gnome Look - Scaled Black Mod
[11:55] <c01100011> it says it's a compiz theme
[11:55] <keen> whenever i run update manager i keep gettin an error for wine.lowvoice.nl/atp...and so on.  any idea why?
[11:56] <Seveas> ehc, what architecture?
[11:56] <rsk> keen: what error?
[11:56] <Pelo> paritosh, boot the live cd and edit fstab,  I'll give you my line so you can copy from it
[11:56] <nblracer> IM looking for a way to check my HDD condtion, and check the integrity of the Ubuntu instaltion and sytem files
[11:56] <keen> rsk: Could not download all repository indexes
[11:56] <keen> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[11:56] <francho-d2> anybody knows how tu use skill?
[11:56] <AThomsen> keen: you must have a line /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:56] <ehc> Seveas, 7.04 amd 64 x2
[11:56] <keen> rsk: its only for the wine.lowvoice.nl domain
[11:56] <paritosh> Pelo, ok thanks
[11:57] <rsk> keen: right maybe mirror down then
[11:57] <Pelo> paritosh,  copy wht you need from this line  # Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
[11:57] <Pelo> UUID=5c3aad07-eee6-46b2-98d8-98c232bf5469 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[11:57] <keen> rsk: ok, its been like that for a few days
[11:57] <rsk> keen: try another mirror
[11:57] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know why I can't drag songs to change their position in a playlist in Banshee?
[11:57] <paritosh> Pelo, my UUID would be differnet right?
[11:57] <Seveas> ehc, apparently that part of my repo doesn't support amd64
[11:57] <keen> rsk: will do
[11:58] <Seveas> I should fix that :)
[11:58] <Pelo> paritosh,  yes,  just  compare and edit , don'T copy and paste
[11:58] <paritosh> ok
[11:58] <paritosh> i will try that out
[11:58] <paritosh> thanks
[11:58] <Pelo> np
[11:59] <brohken> ok i got wireless working
[11:59] <softoninox> hola, alguien habla espaol?
[11:59] <francho-d2> si
[11:59] <francho-d2> yo
[11:59] <brohken> can you guys point me in the right direction to install nvidia?
[11:59] <Pelo> !es | softoninox
[11:59] <ubotu> softoninox: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:59] <softoninox> hola
[11:59] <rsk> brohken: yea
[11:59] <francho-d2> hola
[11:59] <Seveas> !es | softoninox francho-d2
[11:59] <ubotu> softoninox francho-d2: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:59] <rsk> brohken: use the hardware manager in ubuntu
[11:59] <Pelo> !nvidia | brohken
[11:59] <softoninox> alguien cacha de vhcs?
[11:59] <ubotu> brohken: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:59] <ehc> Seveas, okay, well I can I take credit that I reported a bug? :)
[12:00] <Seveas> ehc, only if you file it on launchpad.net/seveas-packages :)
[12:00] <radioaktivstorm> anyone know where I can obtain the old ubuntu default theme? I kinda liked it, you know, the clearlooks but brown?
[12:00] <Pelo> softoninox, si necessites ajuda en espanol per favor escribar  /join #ubuntu-es
[12:00] <softoninox> ok
[12:00] <softoninox> me voy para alla
[12:00] <ehc> Seveas, oh I shall do that. Thanks for all your work on your repo.
[12:01] <niuq> hi i've tried to download some packets from aptitud and this message appears
[12:01] <niuq> !pastebin
[12:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:01] <kane77> hi, anybody knows why cube on compiz stopped working?
[12:01] <rsk> kane77: no
[12:01] <Pelo> kane77,  you need to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[12:02] <niuq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34223/
[12:02] <softoninox> no pasa nada en #ubuntu-es
[12:02] <Seveas> softoninox, english only in here please


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