[02:54] <em1> how can i monitor the status of linux hardware, best in java
[02:54] <em1> anyway
[06:55] <em1> hi
[06:55] <em1> im em
[06:56] <em1> iforgot myname
[06:56] <em1> no
[06:56] <em1> mypassword forgot
[06:56] <em1> anyone know it pls tellme
[06:56] <em1> ok?
[06:57] <em1> imeans em, but em1
[09:09] <em1> i just want to monitor the system, including soft and hard, must i wathc/proc?
[09:09] <em1> surely i wouldnt write hands of bash scripts, i prefer to do with java, ok?
[22:03] <Dutchy> Should sun-java6-jdk still be available on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[22:04] <Dutchy> I am having a crashing JVM with Eclipse and I am running openjdk, could that cause the problem?
[22:04] <Dutchy> (JVM exit code 1)
[22:05] <Dutchy> but sun-java6-jdk had no installation candidate
[22:05] <bmahe> Dutchy, did you activate the partner repository?
[22:07] <Dutchy> partner repository, as in sources.list entries?
[22:08] <Dutchy> oh, that's something new then
[22:08] <bmahe> it has been there for a while :)
[22:08] <Dutchy> I see a comment in the sources.list file about it
[22:09] <melow01> quick question... I need to install java <IP_ADDRESS> on Ubuntu 10.04, can someone help me with this?
[22:09] <Dutchy> I think when I installed this machine it didnt exist yet :p
[22:09] <melow01> Do I need to add something to my sources.list?
[22:33] <Dutchy> Hmm, I think I've selected the sun jdk now and Eclipse still crashes
[22:33] <Dutchy> quite frustrating
[22:33] <Dutchy> I might have to resort to netbeans instead
[22:34] <bmahe> Dutchy, Make sure you haven't installed extra weird plug ins
[22:34] <bmahe> Dutchy, and worst case scenario, open a bug :)
[22:35] <Dutchy> hmm, I only installed the maven integration
[22:37] <Dutchy> quite too frustrated now to debug it
[22:37] <Dutchy> secretly hope it's all fixed tomorrow :p
[22:43] <bmahe> Dutchy, you could try mv ~/.eclipse ~/.eclipse.bak
[22:44] <bmahe> and rm -rf ~/.m2/repository
[22:44] <bmahe> and see if a bare eclipse still crashes
[22:48] <Dutchy> sounds like a good idea
[22:49] <Dutchy> I will remember that when I try again tomorrow :)


[00:00] <gholms> I'm still trying to figure out why a router would *ever* have a problem forwarding traffic bound to its public interface from either side.  :-\
[00:00] <hamnstar> just to make sure i'm not leading you astray, you should google for your routers manual/etc and see if it makes any mention of loopback NAT
[00:01] <arthur789> hamnstar: i have, but will go over it again
[00:02] <arthur789> gholms: just to be clear,from outside through ddns it forwards fine. at home, using local ip, it forwards fine
[00:02] <hamnstar> arthur789... you could just use a seperate name in your hosts file for a super easy fix
[00:03] <hamnstar> /etc/hosts: 192.168.x.x server_home       for example
[00:03] <jrwren> gholms: a router following IP should drop packets it receives destined to a network it knows of on the wrong interface.
[00:03] <hamnstar> arthur789: then you would access it at home by connecting to 'server_home' instead of 'sever.dyndns.org' or w/e
[00:03] <hamnstar> not perfect, but easy
[00:04] <gholms> jrwren: A host sends traffic to IP A port X on the router, and the router forwards it to IP B port Y off some other interface.  Why would the interface it receives the traffic from matter at all?
[00:04] <gholms> s/it/the router/
[00:04] <jrwren> gholms: good point
[00:04] <arthur789> hamnstar: im following youc thanks for the help
[00:04] <jrwren> i can't remember now
[00:05] <gholms> Unless the router is configured to block traffic from the "LAN" side to its public address I'm not sure why things would be breaking.  :-\
[00:05] <hamnstar> gholms: im certain that would be the case, to prevent whacky cyclic situations maybe
[00:06] <gholms> Could be.  I just can't think of what that might be.
[00:06]  * gholms shrugs
[00:06] <hamnstar> otherwise at IP level your right, it really should not care
[00:06] <hamnstar> s/evel/ayer
[00:10] <hamnstar> used this forum post as a sanity check that i wasnt making shit up http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=37323.0 :P
[00:10] <gholms> That's good to know.
[00:11] <gholms> Maybe it's a limitation of its IP stack or something.
[00:11] <arthur789> must be what i got. went from 4 port wbr2310 to dir632
[00:15] <jrwren> i think the problem is that it is acting as both a host and a router
[00:16] <jrwren> as a multihomed host it sees packet to IP A arive at interface B instead of interface A and says, WTF?!?
[00:17] <gholms> I guess if it doesn't have forwarding on that might cause problems.
[00:19] <arthur789> gholms: port forwarding on the router?
[00:20] <gholms> On the multihomed box
[00:20] <gholms> And IP forwarding, not port forwarding
[00:21] <gholms> Unfortunately my knowledge of networking on linux is rather limited.  :(
[00:44] <jrwren> mine is pretty extensive, I just forget a lot of details
[00:53] <arthur789> im still positive i edited a file or two when i had the old router. and from what i can tell it didnt support the loopback either. dd wrt should be able to handle loopback, correct?
[00:57] <jrwren> yes, it can. I think it does by default
[01:00] <arthur789> super, seems my router may be able to handle ww drt
[01:22] <logic5> anyone know how to regenerate a sources.list I think i screwed my up
[01:40] <Patrickdk> logic5, heh? you should never edit that file, ever
[01:40] <Patrickdk> that is what sources.list.d is for
[01:40] <logic5> patrickdk ya seems to be so
[01:41] <logic5> patrickdk i didn't think i saved :/
[01:41] <logic5> t
[01:41] <logic5> but i must have because its not working
[02:03] <jrwren> logic5: what version?
[02:04] <logic5> Ubuntu precise (12.04.3 LTS)
[02:05] <logic5> dcmorton_ im not 100% sure i even altered the source.list
[02:06] <logic5> ooops i ment jrwren
[02:06] <logic5> addressed to wrong person
[02:16] <pmatulis> on my 12.10 server i have installed virt-host^ . dnsmasq-base gets installed and dnsmasq is running.  i don't see any way to restart it other than using the binary directly.  dnsmasq package brings in /etc/init.d/dnsmasq but not the -base package
[02:18] <ubuntutis> do any of you know what would be a couple of good programming languages used for a chat panel
[02:19] <pmatulis> hm, maybe restarting libvirtd?
[02:29] <logic5> so my repository isn't updating but at the same time i can ping google.com but yet Im remotly connected via SSH so i know i have a internet connection. Any ideas of what this might be
[02:30] <Codex_> hello
[02:30] <logic5> hi
[02:30] <Codex_> I need to set up raid in ubuntu
[02:31] <Codex_> I have two disks in raid 0 and I need to get data off them
[02:31] <logic5> I don't know how I'm new to linux servers
[02:32] <Codex_> ok
[02:43] <jrwren> logic5: does apt-get update run without error?
[02:43] <jrwren> ubuntutis: language matters not. :)
[02:44] <ubuntutis> so if you were in my shoes what would you pick
[02:44] <jrwren> python
[02:44] <ubuntutis> why
[02:45] <jrwren> because i know it, it is fast, i can use cython to make it faster, it has great lib support for nearly anything out there.
[02:47] <jrwren> but I don't know your shoes, maybe if i knew your shoes better, i'd choose differently
[02:56] <ubuntutis> jrwren python doesnt seem that bad for me
[03:23] <ancaster> hey all. What's the best practice around having a localadmin user that's able to login when NIS goes down? just adding a local user to my box doesn't work... logins still hang for a good several minutes.
[04:08] <Geeky_Vin> Hi, thr I need some help setting up a home sever in my old laptop for deploy a java web app, can anyone help me. pls.
[04:11] <Guest63583> Geeky_Vin what do you need help wit ?
[04:13] <Geeky_Vin> I want to know how to deploy me java application developed in my other laptop to be upladed to my server and run it.
[04:15] <arthur789> just an update for anyone who was helping with my issue of connecting to a local ip, through dyndns, inside the network. I am usuing dlink router dir-632 and got what i wanted after flashing ww-drt. all is well, and thanks to everyone who chimmed in,ikonia, hamnstar, gholms, jrwren, and the others. I learned alot and headache over. Thanks.
[04:18] <Geeky_Vin> @Guest63583 : I want to know how to deploy my java application developed in my other laptop to be uploaded and run in my ubuntu-server.
[04:20] <logic5> thanks jrwren but i figured out it was because I didn't assign dns server when making my ip static :/
[04:31] <anonee> hello, instead of wlan0 I used eth0, do I have to inverse or fix that?
[04:31] <anonee> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:29] <Geeky_Vin> Hi there, I would like to know how to deploy my web application my ubuntu-server from my laptop. can anyone help me, pls.
[09:30] <chmurifree> hi there
[12:15] <TTL112> Hi. Anyone followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html ? On "ldapadd -x -D cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com -W -f add_content.ldif" it asks me for a password, I enter the one I did entered during installation, it says ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[12:39] <DNSther> HI
[12:39] <ikonia> hello
[12:39] <DNSther> I have a little question about ubuntu. I'm using a vps and can connect to it with my browser via IP:Port. I need to set a hostname, and I want to connect my real subdomain mail.mydomain.com to it. How to set my subdomain?
[12:39] <ikonia> DNSther: you need to configure the DNS servers that are the SOA for your domain to point a subdomain at your server IP
[12:41] <DNSther> ok in my domain config I'm able to set A-Record, AAAA-Record, cname. etc.
[12:41] <ikonia> that set it
[12:41] <ikonia> then set it
[12:41] <DNSther> How to put the port in there, or must that set server-side?
[12:42] <ikonia> you don't put a port in DNS
[12:42] <patdk-lap> unless your doing srv
[12:42] <ikonia> srv ?
[12:42] <patdk-lap> you have never done srv dns entries?
[12:42] <DNSther> service ressource record
[12:42] <patdk-lap> but not many things use it
[12:42] <ikonia> patdk-lap: never had need to
[12:43] <patdk-lap> but for browsers, they don't use srv
[12:44] <DNSther> ok the a-record is filled out with server ip
[12:44] <DNSther> do I have to do other things server-side?
[12:44] <ikonia> depends what you are connecting to
[12:45] <DNSther> I'd set up a mail-server-package (Kerio Connect Trial)
[12:46] <ikonia> that wasn't what I was askin
[12:46] <ikonia> asking
[12:46] <DNSther> *weird*
[12:46] <ikonia> what's weird
[12:48] <DNSther> when I put subdomain in my browser, it connects to homepage on server, what is wrong... this has own subdomain.
[12:48] <ikonia> what are you trying to connect to
[12:49] <Diegonat> guys? I need to have an esxi-like server with KVM. What do you suggest me? Ovirt, opennebula, eucalyptus, proxmox etcc? ?
[12:49] <ikonia> Diegonat: what's wrong with using libvirt ?
[12:49] <patdk-lap> the lack of statement of the problem :)
[12:50] <DNSther> I'm trying to connect to mailadmin, wich uses port 4040
[12:50] <ikonia> DNSther: is that a standalone application, or a service within apache
[12:51] <DNSther> ikonia: it is standalone
[12:51] <ikonia> DNSther: ok, so how that responds to tcp headers will be down to it'self then
[12:51] <DNSther> seems it has nothing to do with apache
[13:17] <DNSther> thx 4 help with that svr clue
[13:18] <DNSther> found useful hints in kerio forum, now it works perfect!
[13:18] <DNSther> bye
[15:33] <werdna][> hi all, Iv'e several issues with dovecot & postfix
[15:34] <werdna][> anyone able to assist?
[15:34] <patdk-lap> not really, no idea what your *problems* are
[15:59] <werdna][> Hi Patdk, well, simply, i'm not able to send mail from my domain to itself, mail is grey listed, and outgoing mail to other domains is rejected by my server saying that the recipient domain doesn't exist
[16:02] <patdk-lap> that really doesn't help at all
[16:02] <patdk-lap> logs would help
[16:02] <werdna][> PM ok?
[16:02] <patdk-lap> no
[16:05] <werdna][> ok, gathering logs...
[16:05] <patdk-lap> should only be like a few lines
[16:05] <patdk-lap> no *gathering* needed
[16:08] <werdna][> Sep 22 02:04:34 webserver postfix/smtpd[4117]: connect from xxx.xxx.xx.x[xxx.xxx.xx.x]
[16:08] <werdna][> Sep 22 02:05:44 webserver postgrey[1032]: action=pass, reason=triplet found, client_name=xxx.xxx.xx.x, client_address=xxx.xxx.xx.x<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:08] <werdna][> Sep 22 02:05:44 webserver postfix/smtpd[4117]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from xxx.xxx.xx.x[xxx.xxx.xx.x]: 450 4.1.8<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Sender address rejected: Domain not found<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>proto=ESMTP helo=<[yyy.yy.y.y]>
[16:08] <werdna][> Sep 22 02:05:52 webserver postfix/smtpd[4117]: disconnect from xxx.xxx.xx.x[xxx.xxx.xx.x]
[16:08] <patdk-lap> !pastebin
[16:08] <werdna][> yeah, a few lines..
[16:09] <patdk-lap> that log makes no sense
[16:09] <patdk-lap> domain 456.com exists and is working fine
[16:09] <patdk-lap> your dns server is foobar?
[16:10] <werdna][> both domains (on the same server) are pingable from external
[16:10] <patdk-lap> I'll take a wild guess
[16:10] <patdk-lap> 456.com is NOT owned by you
[16:10] <werdna][> thats what i thought.. performoing a 'host 123.com' resolves to the server address
[16:11] <werdna][> they are not the real domains..
[16:11] <patdk-lap> not real?
[16:11] <werdna][> the real domains are owned by me, resolvable, and pingable
[16:11] <patdk-lap> how do you expect it to work if they aren't real
[16:11] <patdk-lap> oh, so you expect me to guess what those logs mean? since you hid all *relevent* infomation
[16:11] <werdna][> i don't really want to paste the real domain name and ip addresses
[16:12] <patdk-lap> well, without it the problem can't be solved
[16:12] <patdk-lap> and you shouldn't STEAL other peoples domains for your *examples*
[16:12] <patdk-lap> it's extreemly rude
[16:12] <werdna][> ok, one moment then..
[16:13] <patdk-lap> Sender address rejected: Domain not found is very clear
[16:13] <patdk-lap> you have a dns problem
[16:13] <patdk-lap> without knowing your domain, I can't help you
[16:13] <patdk-lap> I don't get why people are so paranoid
[16:13] <patdk-lap> it's not like your domain and ip aren't public knowledge
[16:13] <patdk-lap> and posted all over the internet
[16:13] <werdna][> postgrey[1032]: action=pass, reason=triplet found, client_name=182-173-240-7.guam.net, client_address=<IP_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:14] <werdna][> Sep 22 02:05:44 webserver postfix/smtpd[4117]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 182-173-240-7.guam.net[<IP_ADDRESS>]: 450 4.1.8<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Sender address rejected: Domain not found<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>proto=ESMTP helo=<[<IP_ADDRESS>]>
[16:14] <werdna][> I'm still paranoid..
[16:15] <patdk-lap> ok, the domain exists
[16:15] <patdk-lap> but there is no dns for it
[16:15] <patdk-lap> you need a working domain
[16:15] <werdna][> oh?
[16:15] <patdk-lap> you have no A AAAA or MX entries
[16:15] <patdk-lap> therefor, sending email using said domain is invalid
[16:15] <patdk-lap> therefor postfix rejects it
[16:17] <werdna][> the MX record in the zone file reads:
[16:18] <patdk-lap> it doesn't matter what is in a zone file
[16:18] <patdk-lap> if no one can talk to the dns server, the CORRECT dns server, and if it's not running
[16:18] <patdk-lap> you have dns issues
[16:18] <patdk-lap> you need to correct your dns issues
[16:19] <werdna][> All tied up in bind, or have I missed something?
[16:19] <werdna][> is this more a domain registrar issue?
[16:20] <patdk-lap> Name Server: NS1.GRIFFLER.CO.NZ
[16:20] <patdk-lap> Name Server: NS2.GRIFFLER.CO.NZ
[16:20] <patdk-lap> are those the correct servers?
[16:21] <werdna][> they were changed to ns1 & ns2.androidsnetwork.com earlier today
[16:21] <patdk-lap> cause neither of them work
[16:21] <patdk-lap> well, it can take 24-48hours for those to change
[16:26] <werdna][> Ah, I see the error of my ways....
[16:28] <patdk-lap> hmm, odd though
[16:28] <patdk-lap> whois normally updates within 5min though
[16:29] <patdk-lap> but it's not updated there
[16:29] <patdk-lap> maybe you should doublecheck it
[16:37] <werdna][> I will, thanks for your help!!
[17:10] <jkitchen> anyone have issues with 'rename3' network interfaces showing up with 13.04?
[17:23] <jkitchen> ahh. seems like 'nameif' can be used to get rename the interface properly
[20:09] <GarrettKajmowicz> Greetings! Is there somebody here who can help me debug a 12.04 LTS boot failure? I'm being dumped to the busybox shell without any idea of what the problem is.
[20:11] <GarrettKajmowicz> This occurred while immediately after my upgrade from 10.04. I'm using software raid1. The device mounts manually without complaints.
[20:11] <GarrettKajmowicz> The old kernel image still boots correctly. New kernels do not.
[20:14] <GarrettKajmowicz> How do I go about diagnosing this issue?
[21:04] <NeoNiet> tengo un problema con el virtualhost de apache
[21:04] <NeoNiet> lo configuro para un dominio pero sirve a todos
[21:05] <NeoNiet> i configure one virtualhost but serves all domains
[21:35] <nikki452> i cannot use alsamixer or mocp without being root or giving the sudo command. i added my user to the audio group but no luck. what else to do?


[12:06] <daker> kim0, why you don't put the link of the portal on the topic ?
[12:15] <kim0> daker: hey .. yeah I can do that
[12:16] <daker> :D
[12:48] <kim0> Attaching a disk to an ec2 instance as /dev/sdh .. it actually appears as /dev/xvdh .. any idea why ? Is there any consistent renaming scheme?
[14:12] <TeTeT> kim0: I think the hotplug driver is responsible for that, but not 100% certain
[14:14] <flaccid> kim0: thats usually the xen kernel used. ubuntu has that modified iirc from the debian xen kernel
[14:14] <flaccid> something there is
[14:14] <flaccid> its xvda* in debian kernel
[14:25] <Hussain> can i get the ubuntu url for network vm installation?
[14:37] <Error404NotFound> I am using AWS. I have setup 2 webservers and one NFS server. Both of the webservers are under and Elastic Load Balancer and autoscaled. Both mount a directory from the NFS Server. My problem? Due to autoscaling more instances will be fired, while the access list is defined statically inside NFS like <IP_ADDRESS>/32, how can i counter that? I don't want to open access to whole 10.0.0.x or any subnet and due to autoscaling i ha
[14:37] <Error404NotFound> ve no way of know the IPs of newly started servers.
[14:38] <Error404NotFound> Without NFS dir being mounted the webserver started as part of autoscaling will not work
[14:38] <flaccid> um its a limitation of elb i think
[14:38] <flaccid> i.e. no security group group permissions
[14:39] <flaccid> thats more relevent to #aws
[14:39] <Error404NotFound> hmmm, pasting it there.
[21:11] <jmgalloway> does anyone know why a vm will not leave the pending state?
[21:12] <jmgalloway> nothing has changed on my uec cloud since yesterday...and now vm's will not go to the running state
[21:41] <jmgalloway> anyone know why my vm stays in a pending state?
[21:57] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ping
[21:58] <RoAkSoAx> ups
[21:58] <RoAkSoAx> wrong channel
[23:11] <kim0> erichammond: Hi o/
[23:11] <kim0> erichammond: Is the ec2-consistent-snapshot tool only supposed to be used inside the instance ?
[23:40] <erichammond> kim0: ec2-consistent-snapshot was originally written to be used on the instance as that is where you need to freeze the XFS file system.  I believe a community patch was submitted to let you you run it remotely with the freeze being done automatically over ssh, but it doesn't look like I applied it in the public version.
[23:41] <kim0> erichammond: aha .. I'm probably throwing a screencast demo'ing it soonish. Just wanted to check this is how it's supposed to work
[23:45] <erichammond> Yep.
[23:45] <erichammond> It basically adds XFS filesystem flushing and freezing and/or MySQL table flushing and locking on top of the standard EBS snapshot API call.
[23:46] <kim0> erichammond: cool tool :)
[23:46] <erichammond> It doesn't have a lot of use if you aren't using XFS and/or MySQL.
[23:46] <kim0> yeah indeed .. I guess a LAMP setup is quite common .. and putting it on an ebs xfs vol makes a lot of sense
[23:46] <erichammond> It started out very minimal, but ended up with a lot of error handling and retrying to catch various situations that come up in the real world.
[23:47] <kim0> Is that perl library still not packaged for natty ?
[23:47] <kim0> that final one to install from cpan
[23:47] <erichammond> Net::Amazon::EC2 ?
[23:47] <kim0> yeah
[23:47] <erichammond> I don't run natty, so don't know.
[23:48] <kim0> libnet-amazon-ec2-perl actually exists
[23:48] <kim0> for natty
[23:48] <erichammond> nice
[23:48] <erichammond> Let me know if it works.
[23:48] <kim0> the ppa builds for natty right
[23:49] <erichammond> Hm, libnet-amazon-ec2-perl even exists on 10.04 Lucid.
[23:49] <kim0> sweet
[23:49] <kim0> add a dependency then :)
[23:50] <erichammond> I'll do some testing and update the ec2-consistent-snapshot package with a dependency and documentation.
[23:50] <erichammond> That one step has tripped up a lot of people as installing CPAN packages can be tough for the uninitiated.
[23:50] <kim0> erichammond: will you do that today (since I'll play first thing in my morning)
[23:51] <kim0> will you be able to*
[23:51] <kim0> fingers dropping complete phrases ;)
[23:54] <erichammond> If I did it, it would probably be late tonight my time (US/Pacific).
[23:54] <erichammond> kim0: Are you recording something or doing it live?
[23:54] <kim0> erichammond: recording a screencast yeah
[23:55] <kim0> if you do it tonight for you anytime .. I think I will catch it tomorrow morning .. leave me a line if you do
[23:55] <kim0> if it's not possible .. I can always wait
[23:56] <kim0> since as you say .. cpan kinda makes things not silk smooth


[01:58] <bazhang> How Would You Generate C Code Using Common Lisp Macros? chu should like this!
[02:16] <bazhang> is bluefox83 typically good at support
[02:51] <bazhang> jonnyblaze> no
[02:51] <bazhang> his usual helpful mode
[03:54] <bazhang> crunchbang really cannot take a hint
[06:28] <chu> Who would ask such an insightful question, bazhang :o
[08:04] <stevendale> A problem has arisen in #ubuntu
[10:20] <bazhang> front page of slashdot, chu!


[00:08] <leomcabrall> needd some help with file ownership/permissions, can anyone help?
[00:08] <Artakha> just state your problem
[00:09] <leomcabrall> added an user to a group, created an folder and set the folder group owner to that same group
[00:10] <leomcabrall> but the user can not access the folder
[00:10] <leomcabrall> the folder permission is rwxrwx---
[00:10] <Artakha> and the ownership is correct?
[00:10] <leomcabrall> yes
[00:10] <leomcabrall> the user is myself
[00:10] <leomcabrall> and when i type groups[enter]
[00:11] <leomcabrall> the group is not listed
[00:11] <Artakha> that's the problem then
[00:11] <leomcabrall> but when I type id leomcabrall it is shown
[00:11] <Artakha> strange
[00:12] <leomcabrall> I'll paste the output from groups command
[00:12] <leomcabrall> leomcabrall adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare bumblebee
[00:13] <leomcabrall> output from "id leomcabrall"
[00:13] <leomcabrall> uid=1000(leomcabrall) gid=1000(leomcabrall) grupos=1000(leomcabrall),1002(developer)
[00:13] <leomcabrall> the group for that folder is developer
[00:15] <Artakha> tried in a new terminal instance?
[00:15] <Artakha> maybe the changes haven't kicked in properly
[00:15] <leomcabrall> yes
[00:15] <leomcabrall> but I've not restarted the system
[00:15] <Artakha> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32304&forum=55 found this by googling
[00:15] <Artakha> it seems he solved it by restarting
[00:16] <leomcabrall> I'll try. But as I remember from my old times on slackware it was not needed
[00:19] <leomcabrall> cool link Artakha
[00:20] <Artakha> does it work?
[00:20] <leomcabrall> typed "newgrp developer" an it works perfectly now
[00:20] <Artakha> ah, good to know
[00:20] <leomcabrall> tanks a lot
[00:21] <Artakha> yw
[00:22] <leomcabrall> on KDE I think I do need to logoff/logon to work, but on konsole it's ok
[02:54] <dthacker> hello,  My test machine will not startx after login.  How do I break out of the login screen to investigate?
[03:01] <monkeyjuice> dthacker:  ctl alt f1
[03:01] <dthacker> tnx
[03:03] <OpenSorce> Liveusb boot, what options should I give to boot to CLI (no X)?
[04:20] <Daskreech> Anyone knows if there is an issue with creating a 2.7 TB partition with ext4 ?
[05:36] <noaXess> moooorning
[07:43] <finedeltempo> analysis
[07:50] <yossarianuk> is it the 25th that 13.04 is ougt >?
[07:50] <yossarianuk> *out*?
[07:50] <valorie> !raring
[07:51] <valorie> pff
[07:56] <yossarianuk> Daskreech: no thefre is not an issue creating a larger partition size
[07:56] <yossarianuk> Daskreech: It is more likely you are noty using GPT
[07:56] <yossarianuk> *not*
[07:56] <yossarianuk> sudo reboot
[07:56] <yossarianuk> (ignore last commenty- that was for a vm..)
[07:57]  * valorie reboots
[07:58] <yossarianuk> I take it Kubuntu releases are the same day (Only recently started using it again  - been an arch user for years...)
[07:58] <smartboyhw> yossarianuk, if you mean Ubuntu and Kubuntu then yes
[08:01] <yossarianuk> smartboyhw: thanks for confirming it
[08:02] <yossarianuk> I think 9 months support is about right for a desktop - after that thinkgs get stale.
[08:02] <smartboyhw> yossarianuk, :)
[08:03] <yossarianuk> although Ubuntu urgently need to make the nvidia binary driver a rolling release - if I buy a new card in July it may not work with the driver shipped in 13.04 - so that means either creating your own package, install manually (which buggers things up in Ubuntu land), using the free driver (where games are 80% slower) or using a different distro.
[08:04] <yossarianuk> (I know thats sort of off topic.. - although there is nothing preventing kubuntu doing it...)
[08:15] <valorie> yossarianuk: what keeps kubuntu from doing it is people to do the work
[08:16] <valorie> more hands on deck are always welcome
[08:16] <valorie> and rather than 'rolling' we have backports, betas and such
[08:16] <valorie> see #kubuntu-devel if you want to help out
[08:17] <valorie> we're a community with little commercial funding
[08:17] <yossarianuk> valorie: I do generally make my own nvidia-driver package...
[08:18] <valorie> in that case, why not share with the community?
[08:18] <valorie> I'm serious
[08:18] <yossarianuk> (I am also the maintainer of the nvidia-rt driver for Arch (AUR)
[08:18] <valorie> esp. if you already know debian packaging
[08:19] <valorie> which you seem to
[08:19] <yossarianuk> debian packaging I find harder than RPM (and Arch which is beyond easy..)
[08:19] <yossarianuk> I would like to possibly in the future - there is 1 thing making me unable to commit right now - I have a 6 week old Son...
[08:20] <valorie> oh, congratulations
[08:20] <valorie> that will change you forever
[08:20] <yossarianuk> (sort of taking up most of my time..)
[08:20] <valorie> <-- grandmother
[08:20] <yossarianuk> yep - already is
[08:20] <valorie> indeed
[08:20] <yossarianuk> cool !
[08:21] <yossarianuk> my sons granmother was present at the birth - they are going to have a special bond.. (any way this is going off-topic..)
[08:21] <valorie> time holding and playing with the baby can never be replaced
[08:21] <valorie> so do that as much as possible
[08:21] <valorie> oh sorry
[08:21] <valorie> eventually he'll use kubuntu
[08:21] <valorie> there, back on topic
[08:22] <yossarianuk> np - I don't mind - but others might.... already shown him an Arch linux install...
[08:22] <yossarianuk> he didn't really get it.
[08:22] <yossarianuk> (being 6 weeks old and all...)
[08:23] <yossarianuk> if kubuntu would include my package I would be interested in helping out in the near future possibly.
[08:23] <yossarianuk> (at least in backports..)
[08:23] <valorie> #kubuntu-devel
[08:25] <yossarianuk> deb building was confusing - although the whole ppa uploading was more confusing... - ps - my ppa is here - https://launchpad.net/~morgancoxuk (its not the latest now) - also I was only supporting one version at a time.
[08:25] <yossarianuk> i.e just 12.10, etc
[08:25] <yossarianuk> I don;t like x-swat, etc as that also updating core xorg components...
[08:26] <yossarianuk> I just wanted the latest driver.
[08:26] <valorie> ok, not sure exactly what you are saying, as I'm not a packager or devel
[08:27] <yossarianuk> even though its not been updated for months its still newer than the one in 12.04 + 12.10...
[08:28] <valorie> ok
[08:29] <yossarianuk> most people use this repo
[08:29] <yossarianuk> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[08:29] <yossarianuk> but that also updates other xorg components...
[09:12] <fr0gger> someomne know channel about VirtualGL?
[09:13] <hateball> !pl | fr0gger
[09:13] <hateball> !ask | fr0gger
[09:14] <fr0gger> !patience
[09:46] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, in 12.04 kde desktop there was a widget on the taskbar that could be used to browser files in the home folder, cant find it in 12.10 what is it called ?
[10:02] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, in 12.04 kde desktop there was a widget on the taskbar that could be used to browser files in the home folder, cant find it in 12.10 what is it called ?
[10:13] <hateball> silv3r_m00n: quick access iirc
[10:13] <hateball> I may be wrong
[10:14] <silv3r_m00n> quickaccess, right got it
[10:14] <silv3r_m00n> hateball: thanks
[10:30] <Apellizcos> Hola a todos. Por que no se me instala los paquetes cuando escribo en la consola ./configure, make, make install
[10:37] <hateball> !es | Apellizcos
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:47] <dthacker> good localtime all
[13:49] <yossarianuk> hey
[15:50] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[16:06] <aPpYe> hm... Tried asking this in ubuntu, but no real answers.  perhaps here?
[16:06] <aPpYe> I installed a KDE system from  ubuntu mini.  I use Kate to edit some files on a Windows server on a domain.  Often, when I save a file that I have edited, it says that it cannot save until I reconnect to the server in dolphin.  Is there a way to improve this?  I never had this problem when using gedit under gnome, xfce, or cinnamon.
[17:19] <Ben_likes_Schiff> Is there a channel on her for Jupiter Broadcasting?
[17:20] <Ben_likes_Schiff> here
[17:20] <Ben_likes_Schiff> :$
[17:21] <genii-around> Ben_likes_Schiff: They're on geekshed.net
[17:21] <Ben_likes_Schiff> thanks
[17:21] <genii-around> np
[17:23] <lordievader> Good evening.
[17:42] <vitimiti> o/
[17:45] <BluesKaj> vitimiti, o/ ?
[17:45] <vitimiti> it's a hello
[17:46] <BluesKaj> this is irc , not  text talk
[17:46] <lordievader> BluesKaj: o is the head, / is the wave ;)
[17:46] <BluesKaj> say hello , even if it's uncool :)
[17:46] <vitimiti> sorry for trying to be polite, I'll try not to say hello ever again :D
[17:47] <vitimiti> I use that because I cannot say hello in Spanish irc's
[17:47] <BluesKaj> why not ?
[17:48] <vitimiti> because I have to say "hola"
[17:48] <BluesKaj> yes  and ?
[17:48] <vitimiti> and I am in English irc's where I'm supposed to say hello, so I use the symbol, much easier
[17:50] <BluesKaj> symbols aren't a polite way of saying hello here , however using the word Hello is :)
[17:51] <vitimiti> whatever
[17:53] <BluesKaj> it's not whatever , vitimiti , it's just the rules, that's all
[17:53] <vitimiti> I understood it, don't worry
[17:53] <BluesKaj> not worried ...
[18:20] <Ab3L> hi. I would like, when I switch to an activity named "photos", that digikam starts automatically (if it isn't still running in that activity, obviously). How can I do it?
[18:21] <wxl> hey guys is the system settings in a file or files somewhere? i have a user that's got something messed up somewhere and kwin usage is out the roof when switching windows. i was hoping i could just copy from another user.
[18:37] <otromas> willy?
[18:38] <home> pedro
[18:38] <home> ??
[18:38] <otromas> home?
[18:38] <otromas> eres willy?
[18:38] <home> si
[18:38] <home> soy home y wily
[18:38] <home> al mismo tiempo haha
[18:38] <otromas> y aca nos leen todos?
[18:39] <home> si q verga
[18:39] <otromas> hay que arreglarlo
[18:39] <home> si
[18:39] <home> como?
[18:39] <home> heh
[18:39] <otromas> si tu no sabes, yo menos
[18:42] <BluesKaj> !english
[22:19]  * genii-around sips
[22:46] <gorgonzola> hello! I'm getting a weird dependency problem where a bunch of kde packages say that they need 4:4.10.1 versions, but i have all 4:4.10.2 version... should i just force it or is there another way of dealing with this?
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> gorgonzola: Is this on 12.10?
[22:46] <gorgonzola> yup
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Are you using some PPA?
[22:47] <gorgonzola> SonikkuAmerica: let me check.
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> You might [ sudo apt-get -f install ] if all is well after that.
[22:49] <gorgonzola> SonikkuAmerika: thanks for the tip. apparently kubuntu backports is asking for older package versions... I'll look into that. Thanks!
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> "America" is with a "c." You're welcome. :)
[22:54] <monkeyjuice> the tab key is a wonderful thing
[22:56] <SonikkuAmerica> monkeyjuice: Yes. Yes, it is.
[22:59] <gorgonzola> SonikkuAmerica haha, sorry, the k's in the first part threw me off :P I'm doing a -f dist-upgrade now, we'll see how it goes...
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> k
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> I need to do a dist-upgrade myself for Thursday.


[07:58] <Guest56535> morning all
[07:58] <MooDoo> or morning all even
[08:06] <zmoylan-pi> monday, and sodding rain...  that is all...
[08:09] <MooDoo> that's a good day then :)
[08:09] <zmoylan-pi> though there is the new rasp pi 3 for sale... so we got that going for us...
[08:46] <\sv> morning my loveable penguins
[08:47] <zmoylan-pi> *sqwak*
[08:47] <\sv> do penguins squark? :P
[08:48] <\sv> im trying to set up google authenticator to auth into my ubuntu 15.10 laptop - as it's portable i'd like to have added security
[08:48] <zmoylan-pi> get a pink laptop and put my little pony sticks all over it.... no one will ever touch it... :-)
[08:51] <MooDoo> and what's wrong with MLP, Rainbow Dash is my fave :D
[09:02] <popey> morning
[09:07] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:08] <bashrc_> morning
[09:18] <\sv> how toenable text mode so it auto gui's but then i have the OPTION of text in the case i break something?
[09:19] <popey> wat?
[09:19] <foobarry> ctrl-alt-f1
[09:19] <foobarry> will give you text console
[09:19] <foobarry> ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back
[09:19] <\sv> foobarry, used to. no longer does it in 15.10
[09:19] <foobarry> ctrl-alt-f2?
[09:19] <\sv> none of them
[09:20] <foobarry> wow
[09:20]  * foobarry is an LTS guy
[09:20] <\sv> foobarry, familier with pam?
[09:22] <popey> uh
[09:22] <popey> they work here
[09:22] <popey> so not sure why they don't work for you
[09:22] <\sv> popey, noooo pam file
[09:23] <popey> I don't know what you're saying. Use more words.
[09:24] <\sv> lines 29 and 30 of the code i sent you; do they look right?
[09:27] <popey> i have no idea
[09:28] <SuperMatt> sounds to me like someone needs to reinstall
[09:28] <\sv> SuperMatt,  no. im trying to make it more secure
[09:28] <foobarry> have you been fiddling \sv
[09:28] <foobarry> i think you have!
[10:05] <awilkins> Good morning, and happy "Bang F5 on the HTC Website Until Your Finger Gets a Blister Day"  "
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> you can hit f5 with your nose...
[10:10] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:16] <sebsebseb> hi
[10:38] <popey> hi
[10:40] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon
[10:42] <sebsebseb> yay reccurding paypal payments, when don't really want it to happen
[10:43] <sebsebseb> at least I have figured out how to properly cancale those now, but after woulds
[10:53] <brobostigon> hi popey and MooDoo
[10:55] <MooDoo> howdy :D
[11:26] <diddledan> everyone!!! PI3!!!!
[11:26] <MooDoo> just been reading about them :D
[11:27] <diddledan> sneaky being their birthday
[11:27] <diddledan> I thought something might be up with their blog post over the weekend that had a celebration video for their birthday early purportedly to not get swamped with celebration posts today
[11:28] <diddledan> omg. it's got wifi
[11:29] <zmoylan-pi> but still only 1gb of ram
[11:29] <popey> Yeah, there were rumours for the last week or so
[11:29] <diddledan> aye
[11:29] <popey> I ordered mine as soon as I saw a tweet with a url in it
[11:29] <zmoylan-pi> i suppose they have to hold something back for + version
[11:29] <popey> got two arriving tomorrow
[11:29] <diddledan> \o/
[11:30] <MooDoo> bluetooth as well diddledan
[11:31] <diddledan> the pi in general is fast becoming a general-purpose PC rather than as MS would have you believe an IoT thing
[11:32] <Myrtti> bit too little ram still to finally haul my sister's Dell GX620 into the electric waste
[11:32] <Myrtti> I had high hopes
[11:32] <diddledan> though I do think that MS' Win10IoT is a nice little OS for single-purpose devices
[11:34] <diddledan> I'd like for snappy to be an equivalent thing in linuxland - the main thing I like about the Win10 is that it drives the display with a single full-screen app that can't be closed by the end-user without connecting from another device
[11:34] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:35] <diddledan> allo bigcalm
[11:35] <diddledan> bigcalm, he often comes-over with a violent dose of large-tranquil feelings :-p
[11:35] <bigcalm> ?
[11:36] <bigcalm> Oh
[11:36] <diddledan> bigcalm, being silly
[11:36] <bigcalm> Or factual
[11:36] <diddledan> lol
[11:36] <bigcalm> I have tea, I'm happy
[11:36] <diddledan> \o/
[11:36] <diddledan> I have cola
[11:36] <diddledan> I might have to wander across and get some milk so I can tea
[11:37] <diddledan> to the shop*
[11:39] <bigcalm> Is there an app that will kill (and hopefully report) if a process is taking 100% CPU for more than X minutes? I have to power cycle one of my Digital Ocean servers every few days because something gets its knickers in a twist and hogs the CPU forever more
[11:39] <diddledan> HAH! the pi is now the UK's all-time best-selling computer!
[11:39] <diddledan> hmm, not sure
[11:39] <diddledan> you'd think there'd be some kind of watchdog-type thing available _somewhere_
[11:41] <diddledan> I wonder what's meant by custom-hardened in this statement: a custom-hardened 1.2GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53
[11:41] <diddledan> that's from eben upton on the piblog
[11:42] <zmoylan-pi> a flash of light won't make it crash? :-)
[11:43] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.zdnet.com/article/raspberry-pi-2-power-crashes-when-exposed-to-xenon-flash/#!
[11:43] <diddledan> lol. pigate!
[11:43] <diddledan> or was it flashgate?
[11:43] <MooDoo> diddledan: it's about sales, only the cpc amstrad has sold more units, although I don't think that will last long
[11:44] <sebsebseb> the Rassbery Pi can also run RISC OS, which is interesting
[11:44] <zmoylan-pi> nah flashgate is been held for the conservative conference party... :-P
[11:44] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi loves that thar riscos
[11:44] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi is antiquated :-p
[11:44] <diddledan> he still uses a nokia, dun'thcaknow
[11:45] <zmoylan-pi> AND a rasp pi... b
[11:45] <diddledan> not even a b+
[11:45] <zmoylan-pi> nope
[11:45]  * diddledan sighs
[11:45] <zmoylan-pi> mind usng a dumbphone is now fashionable so i'll have to find my semaphore flags...
[11:47] <diddledan> hmm, there's mention that "Phil Elwell developed the wireless LAN and Bluetooth software" <-- does that mean the firmware or have they got a simplified stack for folk to get-to-grips with programming it?
[11:50] <diddledan> it's nice to see the compute module is being updated
[11:51] <diddledan> though I wonder how many of those are actually being sold
[11:53] <zmoylan-pi> i wonder how sales of pi's and their ilk are harming pc sales when they're so cheap
[11:54] <diddledan> aye.
[11:54] <sebsebseb> I think only technical enough people generally buy Rassbery Pi's,  and education a bit here and there
[11:54] <sebsebseb> and maybe some technical busineses to
[11:54] <diddledan> I'm hoping for a large memory upgrade in the next pi release :-)
[11:54] <sebsebseb> general average consumer etc, nope
[11:54] <sebsebseb> joe and jane average public, no
[11:54] <sebsebseb> so Rassbery Pi's in general have probably had little effect on desktop PC's
[11:55] <sebsebseb> and lap tops
[11:55] <popey> they aren't design to
[11:55] <popey> *designed
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> the pi3 if it had 2gb of ram would have been a great little lite desktop
[11:56] <zmoylan-pi> 1gb is too little for web browsing these days
[11:57] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: it's fine for browsing just use dillo or w3m :D
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> i tried midori and qupzilla as well as those but none of them quite did all i wanted browser wise
[11:59] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: just use emacs and be done :D
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> wget all my pages...
[12:00] <zmoylan-pi> i did think about doing that... :-)
[12:00] <zmoylan-pi> but you're starting to get a bit too matrixy at that point... :-D
[12:02] <diddledan> did I see recently someone had created a linux distro that was essentially emacs directly ontop of the kernel?
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> were is emacsos for phones??
[12:03] <MooDoo> you just need terminator, mutt, w3m and moc, then you don't need a gui :D
[12:03] <diddledan> err. I do not want a terminator!
[12:03] <diddledan> unless it is bent to my will and not a nefarious AI
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> i don't think you get a choice in having a terminator... that's not how that franchise worked...
[12:03] <popey> I demonstrated Ubuntu Phone at my local LUG two years ago. One guy said "Can it run emacs?" "I won't buy it if it doesn't run Emacs!"
[12:04] <moreati> A silly thought experiment: If Linux/RPi had a very distinctive crash screen ala BSOD, would it _help_ awareness/adoption or hurt it?
[12:04] <diddledan> popey, did he have an android? was that running emacs?
[12:04] <popey> no
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> there is emacs for android
[12:04] <popey> he had a dumbphone
[12:04] <diddledan> and was that dumbphone running emacs?
[12:04] <moreati> Think brand awareness and multidecade trends
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> proper dumbphone :-)
[12:04] <popey> lunchtime
[12:04] <diddledan> if not, then I fail to see his argument
[12:05] <popey> i predict an omlette!
[12:05] <MooDoo> not a riot?
[12:05] <popey> indeed
[12:05] <popey> sung to that tune
[12:05] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE
[12:05] <zmoylan-pi> at least a dumbphone will crack and egg and not get damaged :-)
[12:05] <diddledan> I have cracked many eggs and not got damaged :-p
[12:06] <diddledan> I did get damaged when I cracked a wall though. my poor noggin.
[12:07] <zmoylan-pi> was the wall ok?
[12:07] <diddledan> I suspect sandisk are having trouble with sales of their SSD lines. they keep being offered at reduced rates.
[12:08] <diddledan> today only at maplin AND dabs they're being sold at approx £100 for the 480GB
[12:09] <diddledan> that's "today-only" and not "today, only at"
[12:09]  * zmoylan-pi spots 10,000 mah power bank been sold this thursday at lidl for €18
[12:09] <diddledan> as to the wall, I think I dented it's feelings a little but it stood firm
[12:09] <zmoylan-pi> i wonder how long it would power a rasp pi for...
[12:10] <diddledan> good question
[12:11] <diddledan> 10Amp-hours @ consumption of ~500miliamp consumption = ~20 hours. at 1amp consumption (more likely than 500ma) it'll be ~10 hours
[12:13] <diddledan> and at 2amp consumption (multiple USB's attached) it'll be ~5 hours. at max rated 2.5amp it'll be ~4 hours
[12:13] <diddledan> (that max rating I used the recommended PSU rating for the PI3)
[12:13] <zmoylan-pi> thanks, i must learn to breakdown power usage rates/capacities
[12:15] <diddledan> 10,000 miliamphours means 1miliamp for 10,000 hours or 10,000amps for 1 hour - then sliding scale between, e.g. 5amps (5000miliamps) for 2 hours
[12:15] <diddledan> 10,000miliamps, NOT 10,000AMPS!!!
[12:15] <zmoylan-pi> that makes sense...
[12:17] <diddledan> 10,000 amps would be... *calculates* 3.6seconds
[12:17] <zmoylan-pi> for 10,000 amps we'd need a delorean and a lightning conductor...
[12:18] <diddledan> plus an exploding battery :-p
[12:18] <diddledan> 3.6seconds AND a mini explosion
[12:18] <zmoylan-pi> as long as it leaves streaks of fire i'll be happy :-)
[12:18] <diddledan> more likely streaks of another kind (in your underwear)
[12:19] <zmoylan-pi> that's why you buy stripy underwear!! pffft... amateur...
[12:19] <diddledan> and burnt eyebrows AND a few expletives
[12:26] <diddledan> wtf? someone sent an email to the polymer (a google project) mailing list which appears to be a direct rip from education materials with no explanation: https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/polymer-dev/n5CRhEwxQ2M/G5GmIUeoEwAJ
[12:27] <diddledan> are they using education material as an advertisement of what they're trying to sell? I just don't get it at all.
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> Looks like spam to sell their courses
[12:29] <TwistedLucidity> Perhaps a couple are loss-leaders? Either way, I never trust companies who spam.
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> not even hornell who make spam?
[12:31] <TwistedLucidity> I don't think I have eaten "specially processed artifical meat" since I was about 6.
[12:31] <TwistedLucidity> (I know it's no an acronym, and why it's actually called 'spam' the above is a mere, pathetic, jest)
[12:32] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: no I bet there is horse in it
[12:33] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Horse is tasty
[12:33] <zmoylan-pi> has more of a kick...
[12:34] <diddledan> my nephew used to pronounce it as though the s and e were transposed
[12:34] <TwistedLucidity> That could be amusing/problematic
[12:34] <diddledan> which led to endless giggles from adults when he said he wanted to go to see the horse
[12:57] <MooDoo> ow am ya davmor2
[12:58] <davmor2> Busy as hell and going for Lunch other than that grand, how am yow MooDoo
[13:02] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah i'm doing ok thanks
[13:06] <awilkins> Pi 3!
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> there goes a lot of geeks pocket money... :-)
[13:21] <popey> RS have sold another 1000 since I last looked at ~12:00
[13:35] <foobarry> i still don't own any Rpi
[13:36] <foobarry> maybe when my son is older and is coding
[13:41] <diddledan> apparently Scott Kelly of the Year in Space drank 193 gallons of sweat and urine
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> dead handy for tiny always on device at home doing your bidding
[13:41] <diddledan> ref: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/25/science/scott-kelly-astronaut-year-in-space-numbers.html
[13:42] <zmoylan-pi> did they start drinking their urine _before_ the water ran out? :-P
[13:43] <foobarry> blackadder2
[13:44] <zmoylan-pi> redberad rum, long on beard, short on legs...
[13:47] <diddledan> if anyone has a spare 2grand handy they can buy a hololens developer kit
[13:47] <zmoylan-pi> i could corner the dumbphone supply with that kind of money!!
[13:47] <diddledan> https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/development-edition
[13:48] <diddledan> oh, you gotta live in us or canadia
[13:48] <zmoylan-pi> if you can call it living... no decent crisps... :-)
[13:49] <diddledan> nor chocolate
[13:49] <diddledan> I wonder how IRC could be reimagined for holocomputing
[13:51] <zmoylan-pi> matrix with channels text super imposed on channels text so that you can focus deeper to the next channel
[13:51] <zmoylan-pi> done with hand gestures of course so that you can slap random passers by :-)
[13:53] <diddledan> lol
[13:53] <diddledan> so the slap action is depicted by an avatar bent-over that you literally slap on the bum
[13:54] <diddledan> you could have a meter of how strongly you slap them, too
[13:55] <zmoylan-pi> also punch and tickle would be gesturs so a reboot is punch, slap and tickle...
[13:55] <diddledan> lol
[13:55] <MooDoo> you bloomin idiots ;)
[13:55] <diddledan> us? nevar
[13:56]  * zmoylan-pi can't wait so next annoying jerk can get their lights punched out and my apology is 'sorry thought i was in vr...'
[13:56] <diddledan> I completely resemble that remark!
[13:56] <diddledan> no, wait, resent!
[14:43] <MooDoo> :)
[14:47] <foobarry> anyone doing linux desktop virtualisation for remote users?
[14:48] <foobarry> like maybe a class of 30 ppl
[17:14] <diddledan> http://arstechnica.co.uk/apple/2016/02/os-x-blacklist-accidentally-disables-ethernet-in-os-x-10-11/
[17:14] <diddledan> and hilarity ensued
[17:16] <popey> golly
[17:30] <awilkins> But surely they can just download the update.....    ;-)
[17:31] <diddledan> that's actually the truth
[17:31] <diddledan> that's how they fix it
[17:32] <diddledan> you need to run `sudo softwareupdate --background`
[17:34] <diddledan> the alternative seems to be to reboot in safe/recovery and run `rm -rf “/Volumes/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Extensions/AppleKextExcludeList.kext”`
[17:36] <diddledan> they do list reinstalling OS X as a viable option, which IMO isn't
[20:37] <diddledan> o_O http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/morgan-freeman-waze-gps-navigator-1.3462432
[21:15] <mapps> hi all
[21:18] <mapps> il start watching 11/22/63 next, meant to be v good:)


[00:05] <solydxk_> hey wrst
[00:05] <solydxk_> its linuxman410
[01:27] <xTEMPLARx> hey it was linuxman
[01:27] <xTEMPLARx> and just like that
[01:27] <xTEMPLARx> he's gone :\
[01:59] <wrst> They just don't hang around for long
[02:19] <bwmaker> HEy wrst
[02:48] <bwmaker> Resolved my VirtualBox issue with the 3.19 kernel. After some digging, found the repo version of VB was older. Grabbed the RPM from Oracle and Bob's your uncle.
[03:53] <Juzzy> cool
[03:53] <Juzzy> Tell Bob we said Hi
[03:56] <bwmaker> Will do. :)
[18:08] <wrst> bob is a god guy
[19:14] <bwmaker> I like Bob.


[01:27] <Unit193> Bug 1796144
[01:29] <bluesabre> I've updated our release notes for 18.10, https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.10/release-notes, feel free to add or tweak from here
[10:13] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-screensaver 0.1.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-screensaver-0-1-0-released-tp52009.html (by Sean Davis-6)
[14:31] <knome> hmph, theoretically we want to migrate to using gutenberg on our WP theme ASAP...
[15:16] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[17:06] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: just so you know - did an upgrade from Bionic - it installed nvidia for me
[17:07] <flocculant> booting the image on kvm and everything looks as expected
[17:07] <flocculant> booting to hardware and the panel etc look like Xfce not Xubuntu ...
[20:30] <flocculant> bluesabre: this is what the live session looks like here on hardware (fine in a vm), installed looks fine though https://i.imgur.com/kWdgsVz.png
[20:31] <flocculant> the try/install screen looks fine too btw
[22:23] <bluesabre> flocculant: that doesn't look too good :/
[22:27] <ochosi> the nicest aspect is that the gtk3 panel shows off which icons (yay, xfce plugins!) are gtk3-ready and use symbolic icons
[22:27] <ochosi> also, obviously we don't have the symbolic setting enabled in sn-plugin, otherwise the nm-applet icon would also be symbolic, hence look ok in the panel
[23:55] <bluesabre> flocculant: feel free to file a bug report. Might be some crazy timing issue


[00:02] <jafa> tested varnish delivering 95.9Gbps on a 100G link doing http and ~94Gbps with htich in front doing https
[00:18] <MTecknology> Is there any chance anyone in here is willing to help me by criticizing ... I mean critiquing an outline for a docs refactor?  https://github.com/recoverysource/recoverysource.net/issues/1
[00:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Issue 1 in recoverysource/recoverysource.net "Refactor Documentation for New Target Audience" [Open]
[22:27] <mybalzitch> so I have my install, currently booting via legacy. I have a pair of new drives, what is the documented way to move my install to them, have redundancy, and enable UEFI


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