[12:32] <Kassah> ikonia: looking at the man file... I don't see a way to get it to recursively do through directories
[12:32] <Ayabara> I run ati dual head (individual monitors). is there something I can do to make a workspace switch happen on both desktops?
[12:32] <ikonia> you use grep to search and sed to replace
[12:32] <Bombjack> Kassah: use find
[12:33] <paradon> I'm looking for a lightweight HTTP server that runs from inetd and supports php (and, ideally, reverse-proxying).  Anyone have any suggestions?
[12:33] <Draco_> thanks sercik
[12:33] <ikonia> paradon: light http or tux potentially
[12:33] <sercik> someone can help me with frquency and voltahe scaling?
[12:34] <Kassah> I guess... I just don
[12:34] <Kassah> I just don't how to combine these properly
[12:34] <Bombjack> Kassah: what exactly do you want to do?
[12:35] <Kassah> %s/\/usr\/local\/psa\/home\/vhosts/\/var\/www\/vhosts/g
[12:35] <Kassah> that recursively across a huge directory
[12:35] <Kassah> and subdirectories
[12:35] <jrib> kassah, you can use s#foo#bar# to keep your sanity
[12:35] <Kassah> I can use that in vim to do one file... but I need to do it on a thousand or so
[12:36] <Kassah> jrib: neat! that's useful
[12:36] <Bombjack> find .  -exec sed -s#foo#bar# {} \;
[12:36] <CapriCorn^80> i need airsnort software on ubuntu
[12:36] <CapriCorn^80> its not working using apt-get
[12:36] <CapriCorn^80> wat should i do ?
[12:36] <Kassah> find .  -exec sed -s#/usr/local/psa/home/vhosts#/var/www/vhosts# {} \;
[12:36] <Kassah> like that?
[12:37] <Bombjack> not -s# but only s#
[12:37] <Bombjack> i thing
[12:37] <jrib> kassah, not -s, just write the sed command as you normally would, but denote the filename with '{}' and add \; to the end
[12:37] <Bombjack> -g+k
[12:37] <hounited1> is it possible to have a desktop like windows?
[12:37] <jrib> hounited1, what do you mean...
[12:37] <hounited1> as in..have a start menu
[12:38] <Zaki> hi
[12:38] <hounited1> unlike the gnome desktop
[12:38] <hounited1> i heard about the KDE
[12:38] <hounited1> but what is it all about?
[12:38] <sercik> someone can help me with cpu fid vid change?
[12:38] <jrib> hounited instead of the 3 seperate menus?  Just right click on the panel -> add to panel  and add the "main menu"
[12:38] <jrib> !kde > hounited1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:38] <Kassah> hmm
[12:38] <Kassah> that was bad
[12:38] <Kassah> I think I just spit a bunch of image files to console
[12:39] <Bombjack> find . -name .txt ?
[12:39] <Kassah> or .php
[12:39] <Bombjack> or that
[12:40] <hounited1> thanks jrib..that solves my prom
[12:40] <Bombjack> find . -name *.php even
[12:40] <hounited1> all i have to do now is wait till ubuntu updates...
[12:40] <jrib> kassah, bombjack: '*.php' to stop the shell from expanding it
[12:41] <Bombjack> jrib: so no quotes..
[12:41] <Kassah> oh
[12:41] <jrib> bombjack: hmm?  if you don't put the quotes and have a file called foo.php in your current directory, the shell will expand it
[12:42] <Phylo> My wireless connection is working, but VEERY, VEERY, slowly
[12:42] <Kassah> I think the problem is sed is outputing the replacement... not putting it to file
[12:42] <jrib> kassah, you need to use  sed -i
[12:42] <kadaz> question
[12:42] <CapriCorn^80> i need amsn software on ubuntu
[12:42] <kadaz> how can I install wallpapoz to ubuntu
[12:42] <CapriCorn^80> its not working using apt-get
[12:43] <jrib> kadaz, visit the wallpapoz site, download the tar.gz, read the README
[12:43] <davf> anyone know how to change the crontab timeout?
[12:43] <Phylo> it can't be my router, or my wireless card because I've used the internet before on XP on the machine
[12:43] <Phylo> at regular speeds
[12:43] <Phylo> any ideas why it might be so slow?
[12:43] <DgrMouse> can someone please pastebin an apache default website host from /etc/apache2/sites-available please?
[12:43] <Defient> phylo
[12:43] <Kassah> the fun part will be to see if this corupts every image file it comes accross
[12:43] <Defient> phylo you might need a new router
[12:44] <jrib> kassah, well only if they end in ".php" now right?
[12:44] <Kassah> I ditched that
[12:44] <CapriCorn^80> i need amsn software on ubuntu n its install it using apt-get
[12:44] <jrib> Kassah: why?
[12:44] <Kassah> for the reason that I know some of the culprits are not phps
[12:44] <kadaz> any of the files it requires is the same ext  BZ2  how can I install bz2's
[12:44] <amigappc> hi
[12:45] <amigappc> im a noob ... and need some advice ^
[12:45] <jrib> !ask | amigappc
[12:45] <ubotu> amigappc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <kadaz> dont worry, Iam the aveg noob
[12:45] <jrib> kadaz: you mean the dependencies?
[12:45] <Kassah> hrrm
[12:45] <amigappc> i own a laptop with a intel graphiks-card and i cant change the resolution ...
[12:45] <jrib> !fixres > amigappc (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:46] <Defient> modify the conf file
[12:46] <|_ocke> kadaz, "tar xvf (bztarname)"
[12:46] <amigappc> sry i can change the ress but not to the right ...
[12:46] <amigappc> i also cant install the intel drivers
[12:46] <amigappc> because i dont have the knowledge to do so
[12:47] <Phylo> Defient:  you say I may need a new router.  Can that still be the case even though it is the same router I am using now, which is running normally?
[12:47] <jrib> kadaz: you don't want to install the dependencies using a .bz2.  All of the dependencies for wallpapoz are packaged in ubuntu's repos.  Search with synaptic or aptitude and install them that way
[12:47] <kadaz> I tried that, and I cant find the a match
[12:47] <Defient> Phylo then its not the router.
[12:47] <jrib> kadaz: which one?
[12:48] <Kassah> okay... neat
[12:48] <immanouel> it took more than an hour to loading kernel now its stuk at 100% do nothin...
[12:48] <Kassah> thanks... got what I wanted done
[12:48] <Phylo> Defient:  any other ideas?
[12:49] <Kassah> however it diddn't solve my underlying problem... =) but that's okay...  Welcome!
[12:58] <sdf_> hehe
[12:58] <amigappc|stupid|> test
[12:58] <Quall> Na uh
[12:58] <Quall> I will take on all of you
[12:58] <Quall> That Vista pwns
[12:58] <jrib> Quall: keep this channel ubuntu support related.
[12:58] <leagris> r00tintheb0x, don't you prefer loving your girlfriend or boyfriend? :)
[12:58] <r00tintheb0x> Yeah it does Quall, like George W. Bush PWNS Al Qaeda...
[12:58] <leagris> roadkill, here is e complete list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:58] <r00tintheb0x> leagris, of course... my girlfriend is a close 2nd to Linux :)
[12:59] <Quall> George W Bush did pwn Al Qaeda though didnt he? He really fucked them up
[12:59] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Quall
[12:59] <ubotu> Quall: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> Quall, that why we're still in this war?
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> =)
[12:59] <jrib> r00tintheb0x: stop please...
[12:59] <amigappc|stupid|> @quall did you come from the us ? so pls, go to school and learn something
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> Does anyone need help with UBUNTU which is on topic?
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> ok jrib
[12:59] <livingdaylight> Hello Guys!
[12:59] <Phylo> Quall:  ##Windows
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> hi livingdaylight
[01:00] <livingdaylight> lol @ r00tintheb0x
[01:00] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[01:00] <r00tintheb0x> need help livingdaylight ?
[01:00] <livingdaylight> I have a huge problem! yes, r00tintheb0x
[01:00] <Chad> is there a help channel?
[01:00] <r00tintheb0x> whats up livingdaylight, hit me with it.
[01:00] <Phylo> how can I switch between workspaces using the keyboard?  (hotkey kinda thing)
[01:00] <CheshireViking> Chad, you're in the support channel
[01:00] <Chad> cool
[01:01] <r00tintheb0x> Phylo, you can use the scroll wheel on your mouse.
[01:01] <jrib> Phylo: ctrl-alt arrows, but you can change it in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[01:01] <r00tintheb0x> not sure about how to go about it using the keyboard.
[01:01] <PriceChild> Phylo, ctrl+alt+keyboard direction
[01:01] <r00tintheb0x> aah, there you go.
[01:01] <livingdaylight> r00tintheb0x, when i play Enigma and now i see even after playing Go on KGS which is on or via a simple applet my music does not work afterwards
[01:01] <leagris> Life unavoidable question: Is Linux male or female? Checked my Tux fluffy deep at the bottom and couldn't tell ;D
[01:01] <Phylo> excellent, excellent, much-obliged
[01:01] <Chad> well, I can get ubuntu to boot on my dell laptop, and on my dell pc, just not on my homebuilt pc with the 19 inch widescreen monitor....
[01:01] <CapriCorn^80> wat is difference between apt-get n aptitude ?
[01:01] <livingdaylight> r00tintheb0x, Enigma is a game with a marble if you don't know
[01:02] <jrib> CapriCorn^80: aptitude installs recommended packages by default and keeps better track of dependencies
[01:02] <leagris> CapriCorn^80, it does not spell the same :o)
[01:02] <Chad> I made a pendrive with ubuntu on it, and all, and also tried the cd, but it won't boot at all on this pc...
[01:03] <Chad> I think it's tripping up on the motherboard myself
[01:03] <Chad> cause I see some errors on the via chipset
[01:03] <Chad> before it halts
[01:03] <Phylo> What is the best (don't kill each other fighting now) C++ IDE?
[01:03] <Chad> some io errors or something
[01:03] <livingdaylight> r00tintheb0x, ? :s
[01:04] <infornography> anybody know how to add extra languages to GDM. I installed all the necessary language packages I think, but its not showing up on the gdm menu
[01:04] <leagris> Chad, some have solved that issue wit bios Upgrade. Google for your bios version and USB disk boot support.
[01:05] <jrib> infornography: system > administration > language support  should take care of it
[01:06] <infornography> brilliant, thanks a lot
[01:06] <Chad> I can boot from usb, it just dies after I select [run from disc or install]
[01:06] <orbin> Phylo: anjuta gets mentioned a bit
[01:06] <Chad> it loads up the gz and then I see console errors
[01:06] <Chad> and kernal panic
[01:07] <Chad> btw, this is ubuntu 6.10 desktop I'm trying this with
[01:07] <livingdaylight> Q: when i play Enigma and now i see even after playing Go on KGS which is on or via a simple applet my music does not work afterward
[01:10] <ubuntu___> hi, I've got a laptop, Toshiba and Im trying to install ubuntu but I don't know how can I boot from cd
[01:10] <livingdaylight> I would really appreciate some help with my sound issues
[01:11] <fb> hi
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu___: there should be a setting in your BIOS
[01:11] <CapriCorn^80> ubuntu__: go to ur bios n change ur boot seqeunce
[01:11] <CapriCorn^80> first must be cdrom
[01:11] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: with 'del' command?
[01:11] <CapriCorn^80> then it will boot from cdrom
[01:11] <Phylo> how do you paste into a terminal?
[01:11] <fb> i'm looking for a tutorial on how to change the kernel config file (running ubuntu edgy eft).
[01:12] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: yea, but I don't know how can I get in bios
[01:12] <fb> please help
[01:12] <CapriCorn^80> f2 , f10 , f8
[01:12] <CapriCorn^80> try these
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu___: usually you rpess del, or f2 or something.
[01:12] <jrib> Phylo: ctrl-shift-v or just hilight what you want to copy and then middle click with your mouse
[01:12] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: ok, hold on please
[01:12] <Phylo> orbin:  gotcha (anjuta) thanks
[01:13] <CapriCorn^80> ok
[01:14] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: ok, i'm in
[01:14] <Phylo> thx jrib
[01:14] <CapriCorn^80> goood
[01:14] <CapriCorn^80> check boot sequence option
[01:15] <Draco_> anyone familiar with ktorrent would like to help me out for a sec ?
[01:15] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: oups, how can I select? with enter doesnt work
[01:15] <livingdaylight> Can anyone help me with Sound issue on Ubuntu?
[01:15] <livingdaylight> when i play Enigma and now i see even after playing Go on KGS which is on or via a simple applet my music does not work afterward
[01:15] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: i have a 'plus' in front off HDD
[01:15] <CapriCorn^80> there should be some instructions
[01:16] <livingdaylight> then i have to restart Ubuntu up all over again just to be able to have sound again
[01:16] <CapriCorn^80> use + , _ , pageup pagedown
[01:16] <CapriCorn^80> they can help to select
[01:16] <sipior> livingdaylight: you running a sound dameon (esd, arts, &cet?)
[01:16] <plagerism> Just trying to get my head around a couple of suspend things in Feisty.  I used to have suspend working on a D600(ati radeon oss supported) and everything was peachy.  I then took that drive out and put it in a D800(nvidia graphics using nvidia driver not nv) and hibernate no longer works.  Now reading through documentation it's telling me that my swap space has to be greater than my ram, however upon further inspection I rea
[01:16] <plagerism> lized that Feisty did not create any swap space.  Could this be the problem?  I doubt it as it hibernated on the D600.  Also found another post on launchpad that said something about a POST_VIDEO option.  One more thing  There is a message of not having enough pages(AMOUNT OF RAM HAS ALSO CHANGED)  could it be a value that was setup which I am unfamiliar with?
[01:16] <livingdaylight> sipior, i assue so
[01:16] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: ok, let me see
[01:16] <livingdaylight> *assume
[01:17] <livingdaylight> sipior, any way to diagnose this?
[01:17] <leagris> livingdaylight, may be it take exclusive DSP/PCM device use. fuser -k /dev/dsp* and fuser -k /dev/snd/pcm* should kill the offending process and releasing sound devices.
[01:17] <sipior> livingdaylight: yes, "ps aux  | grep esd", does it return anything? (other than the grep, of course)
[01:18] <livingdaylight> sipior, yes
[01:18] <leagris> livingdaylight, replacing fuser -k with fuser -v will dispay process name instead of killing it
[01:18] <superkirbyartist> !windows
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[01:18] <superkirbyartist> !photoshop
[01:18] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[01:18] <leagris> !ubotu
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[01:19] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23575/
[01:20] <sipior> livingdaylight: ah yeah, you've got two esd daemons running
[01:20] <livingdaylight> leagris, thx i'm just gonna follow the process with sipior through before approaching your method
[01:20] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: I don't know... I just moved CD on the first position then its HDD
[01:20] <sipior> livingdaylight: ah no, i'm mistaken
[01:20] <sipior> livingdaylight: the shell that started the daemon never terminated...
[01:21] <sipior> livingdaylight: i think leagris' method is not a bad way to approach this, but try killing pid 5500 first
[01:21] <livingdaylight> sipior, how?
[01:21] <sipior> livingdaylight: sudo kill 5500
[01:21] <sahil> is there any way of clearing the RAM that linux uses?
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: no, aside from rebooting
[01:22] <livingdaylight> sipior, and then?
[01:22] <ubuntu-help-need> hi guys anyone here have a chance to help me pls... urgently
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: but it's not an issue, you don't actually want to clean it :)
[01:22] <sipior> livingdaylight: did it work? if not, try sudo kill -9 5500
[01:22] <sahil> sipior suppose i use linux and then switch to windows, that that mean some stuff is already in my ram?
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: no, it
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: it's flushed at reboot
[01:23] <sahil> sipior, thanks :)
[01:23] <livingdaylight> sipior, well i did sudo kill 5500 and the prompt came back. how do you mean did it work?
[01:23] <leagris> sahil, terminating process that allocated the memory. Aside from that. You may see huge amout dedicated to caching but that is the way Linux works. Cache dedicated memory is freed upon allocation request from loaded processes.
[01:23] <sipior> livingdaylight: does "ps aux" show it still?
[01:24] <sahil> leagris, im a noob, flush at reboot is a good explanation for me
[01:24] <Phylo> what's the terminal command to check the available memory of a hard drive?  (my main drive in this case, that is running Ubuntu)
[01:24] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23576/
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> Phylo: df -h
[01:24] <leagris> sahil, flush is not needed and unavailable. Flush occures automaticaly when needed.
[01:24] <Faemir> Can someone recommend a good audio converter, i will be converting FLAC and MP3 to OGG. I know with MP3 I will lose sound quality, but oh well.
[01:25] <Draco_> Is the /tmp folder emtied when Ubuntu is restarted ?
[01:25] <sipior> livingdaylight: yeah, it's gone. sound work?
[01:25] <livingdaylight> sipior, let me check
[01:25] <leagris> Faemir, ffmpeg, mencoder does it right and simple
[01:26] <Faemir> thanks
[01:26] <Phylo> SlimeyPete:  thank you very much
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> Phylo: no problem :)
[01:26] <Ajits> which kernel version we are using currently in unbutu?
[01:26] <sipior> Ajits: uname -a
[01:27] <DjViper> when connecting to a wireless network, how come I have to type in a keyring pw twice to access it?
[01:27] <boghog> hjio
[01:27] <boghog> hi*
[01:27] <livingdaylight> sipior, oops...rhythmbox crashed. next i went straight into music folder and selected something. Totem comes up by default and i got an error dialog pop up saying ; could not establish connextion to sond server
[01:27] <leagris> Ajits, 2.6.20-16. Use uname -a to check the one you are runing.
[01:27] <DjViper> and, secondly how come network manager cant connect to the network I specify each time I boot up? instead of just trying to connect to whatever is available
[01:27] <gangerli> hi all
[01:27] <DjViper> ubuntu 6.10
[01:28] <gangerli> what software do you recommend for video editing and applying hard subs?
[01:28] <leagris> !ldap
[01:28] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[01:28] <sipior> livingdaylight: restart it manually if you need to, or go through System->Preferences->Sound
[01:29] <mehln> I'm trying to $this->Model->find($data,$this->primaryKey,null,0)
[01:29] <livingdaylight> sipior, do you mean restart my pc box? and what do you suggest i do in system>Preference>Sound?
[01:30] <mehln> it's still getting it recursively, even though I told it not to explicitly
[01:30] <Phylo> ...when I run beryl it takes me to a black screen where I can type for about 10 seconds
[01:30] <Chad> does ubuntu play nicely with a radeon mobility?
[01:30] <Phylo> then I have to log back into Ubuntu, but it definitely didn't restart
[01:30] <sipior> livingdaylight: no, i mean restart esd manually, so you have a sound server to connect to
[01:30] <cbx33> Phylo sounds like X is dying
[01:30] <atomic_ue> What's the difference between Free hdd space and Available hdd space?
[01:31] <sipior> atomic_ue: some filesystems provide a mechanism to reserve disk blocks for the superuser
[01:31] <Phylo> it did close all my programs though
[01:31] <livingdaylight> sipior, how? i clicked on something in System>Preference>Sound and it crashed
[01:31] <sipior> livingdaylight: odd. try "esd"
[01:31] <Phylo> cbx33:  what can I do about that?
[01:31] <livingdaylight> sipior, in shell?
[01:31] <sipior> livingdaylight: where else?
[01:32] <gilang> do we need to do something on the config menu before we compile the 2.6.20 kernel?
[01:32] <Phylo> cbx33:  I just installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10
[01:32] <livingdaylight> conrad@Dune:~$ esd
[01:32] <livingdaylight> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[01:32] <atomic_ue> sipior: Ah I've read about that once briefly....I've been using Linux for years and I never knew there was a diff between Free and Available space :P
[01:32] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23577/
[01:33] <sipior> atomic_ue: yeah, it's a bit subtle, not really used much anymore
[01:33] <zeroflag> eh, strange.
[01:33] <zeroflag> I got my gdm finally running, can connect via VNC, but the screen is blank...
[01:33] <zeroflag> black even.
[01:33] <tondar> hey all
[01:33] <atomic_ue> sipior: A difference of 3GB between Free and Available on a /home partition seems a bit much tho
[01:34] <sipior> livingdaylight: hmm...you might try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[01:34] <zeroflag> how would is restart gdm and X?
[01:34] <tondar> how would I have a dynamic menu for ubuntu desktop
[01:34] <tondar> ?
[01:34] <Danzor> Ok, I reinstalled Ubuntu to start fresh, and I've been trying to sort out xserver because my graphics card is an ATI X1400, which the GUI doesn't like
[01:34] <Danzor> So I've been stuck in the terminal
[01:34] <Danzor> I've come across this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:34] <Danzor> And I've executed the 2 commands:
[01:34] <Danzor> sudo apt-get update
[01:34] <Danzor> and
[01:34] <sipior> atomic_ue: you can change that with tune2fs; the default reserve is 5%, so you probably have a 150GB home filesystem?
[01:34] <Danzor> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[01:35] <sipior> atomic_ue: 60GB, rather :)
[01:35] <__mikem> zeroflag hit ctrl alt backspace
[01:35] <livingdaylight> sipior, it sais shutting down Also and settin up Also i think
[01:35] <Danzor> And the next step on there is to: "Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way. If not, follow the instructions for Edgy."
[01:35] <zeroflag> __mikem: where?
[01:35] <sipior> livingdaylight: now see if esd is back
[01:35] <__mikem> zeroflag on your keyboard
[01:35] <Danzor> How do I do the "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" bit?
[01:35] <zeroflag> __mikem: in what interface. -_-
[01:35] <Danzor> I'm assuming that it's meant for a GUI environment, not the terminal
[01:35] <__mikem> any x session
[01:35] <livingdaylight> sipior, i get the same line
[01:36] <zeroflag> __mikem: I don't have the physical machine anywhere near me. I only have VNC or SSH.
[01:36] <tondar> how would I have a dynamic menu for ubuntu desktop
[01:36] <sipior> livingdaylight: which line?
[01:36] <__mikem> if you are in vnc it shouldn't matter
[01:36] <atomic_ue> sipior: yeah about that. I'll have a look at tune2fs and see if I can lower it for a few couple of partitions
[01:36] <atomic_ue> sipior: thanks ;)
[01:36] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23577/
[01:36] <zeroflag> __mikem: that just killed VNC.
[01:37] <__mikem> zeroflag, then restart vnc
[01:37] <zeroflag> how can I trigger a gnome login without direct access?
[01:37] <Phylo> when I type "beryl -manager"  it says "beryl: invalid option -- m"
[01:37] <sipior> livingdaylight: and it doesn't show up with ps?
[01:37] <sahil> hey i got a question about bery, how do i put a change the color of the suff outside the cube
[01:37] <zeroflag> because VNC is only active for one user - once that user is logged in.
[01:37] <livingdaylight> sipior, esd ps?
[01:37] <Vanax> Anyone able to tell me why when i run wow, the gui crashes.
[01:37] <sipior> livingdaylight: "ps aux | grep esd"
[01:37] <mehmetserif> i am trying to install ubuntu Feisty but i am locked at partitioning , i have also xp on my hard drive but there is no other partition for ubuntu but there is a space in c: like 8 gb. so i want to use that empty space. In partition window there is a selection "Guided: resize sda and use freed space" does that mean it will use that free space?
[01:37] <zeroflag> Vanax: the gnomes are taking over your pc!
[01:37] <sipior> Vanax: need a lot more info than that, i'm afraid
[01:38] <__mikem> !wubi | mehmetserif
[01:38] <ubotu> mehmetserif: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[01:38] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23578/
[01:38] <mehmetserif> _mikem, well i just want to know what does that mean?
[01:38] <Vanax> sipior: Well, i got wow installed disk 1-5 and then when i try to run it, it just freez's all the windows, the mouse moves, but nothing else.
[01:38] <sahil> !beryl
[01:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:38] <tondar> desktop menu for ubuntu
[01:38] <IdleOne> Danzor, gksu -D restricted-manager
[01:39] <Chad> mehln, isn't sda a usb disc (or thumb drive?)
[01:39] <Danzor> Ok, thanks
[01:39] <__mikem> mehmetserif, wubi will install your linux filesystem in a file that resides in your windows partition, thereby bypassing the risks associated with partitioning
[01:39] <mehmetserif> _mikem so it works on windows ?
[01:39] <sipior> livingdaylight: hmm...not sure what to tell you. difficult to diagnose at a distance
[01:40] <tondar> anyone
[01:40] <tondar> ?
[01:40] <__mikem> mehmetserif its DESIGNED for windows
[01:40] <tondar> menu for desktop ??
[01:40] <mehmetserif> _mikem, ok thanks
[01:40] <livingdaylight> sipior, how do i put it back to where i was, coz now it is worse than before
[01:40] <sipior> Vanax: how are you running it?
[01:40] <zeroflag> argh.
[01:40] <HOT> hello, i have a weird problem with a .Xauthority file that keeps reverting on a seemingly random basis to root ownership, is there anyway to track not so much who changed a file but why a file was changed?
[01:40] <leagris> sahil, Bery Setting Manager/Desktop icon/Cube desktop/Display dome deck/skky/ground colour options
[01:40] <sipior> livingdaylight: i would say reboot
[01:41] <livingdaylight> sipior, will that reset it to where i was before?
[01:41] <zeroflag> can someone tell me how I can FORCE my ubuntu to use a static IP? every time I reboot it falls back to DHCP - not what I want for my fileserver...
[01:41] <__mikem> HOT, that would mean that X is writing to the file
[01:41] <sipior> livingdaylight: i would assume so
[01:41] <livingdaylight> sipior, coz we did a kill process and now sound server cannot be accessed and things crash
[01:42] <sipior> livingdaylight: right, and it will be restarted at reboot
[01:42] <Phylo> When I run beryl, even the manager, it crashes...
[01:42] <HOT> __mikem: yea i understand that part, i have about 7 users using the system, no one else has this issue, i need to know why root is changing the file, is there some kind of filesystem changing tracker?i know who what is changing the file, but i need to know why, the process that is changing it
[01:42] <leagris> zeroflag, either permanent DHCP lease using MAC address on DHCP server / or editing /etc/network/interfaces iface eth0 inet static and adding lines with address, gateway and netmask
[01:42] <__mikem> Phylo by any chance when you say crash do you mean the screen goes white and you have to restart x to do anything
[01:43] <Vanax> sipior: i'm hitting alt + f2 and then typing the file name for the wow.exe then -opengl
[01:43] <sipior> zeroflag: i believe you want to modify /etc/network/interfaces. check out man interfaces for more data
[01:43] <zeroflag> leagris, sipior: thank you.
[01:43] <Phylo> not white, it goes black, and I can type
[01:43] <Phylo> it doesn't do anything, but I can type
[01:43] <sipior> apologies, leagris, didn't see your response
[01:43] <Phylo> then after about 10 seconds it goes to my login screen
[01:43] <__mikem> HOT do you at any point change any graphical settings?
[01:44] <__mikem> Phylo sounds like beryl is bringing down X
[01:44] <Phylo> all my programs are closed, but Ubuntu doesn't have to restart (it takes a lot less time than booting)
[01:44] <Phylo> someone else said that too, what do I do about it?
[01:44] <sipior> Vanax: not through wine or cedega?
[01:44] <Phylo> maybe I don't have something set right in X
[01:44] <HOT> __mikem: actually i think i have it, its a suid problem, thanks for your thoughts anyway
[01:44] <Vanax> sipior: yeah sorry its going through wine
[01:44] <__mikem> Phylo, I would first recomend you reinstall all of beryl's components
[01:44] <__mikem> HOT sorry I couldn't be more help
[01:44] <HOT> thanks anyway!
[01:45] <__mikem> no problem
[01:45] <Phylo> I JUST installed them, but I can do that
[01:45] <zeroflag> leagris: any way to test that without rebooting?
[01:45] <sipior> Vanax: not sure if wine even supports WoW atm. you might try cedega, though there's a nominal fee, involved
[01:45] <__mikem> Phylo, its just what I would do, you never know, the binarys could have been currupted when you downloaded them
[01:45] <Chad> just get cvs cedega...
[01:45] <sipior> not sure where that last comma came from...
[01:45] <leagris> zeroflag, ifdown eth0 / ifup eth0 will do
[01:45] <Vanax> chad: where do i get that?
[01:45] <__mikem> Chad cvs cedega is known not to work on fiesty
[01:46] <sipior> Chad: aye, and then he has to build it :) does it build cleanly nowadays?
[01:46] <zeroflag> leagris: you know any reason why I wouldn't have an eth0 but only eth1?
[01:46] <rpedro> anyone here with a soundblaster live card, the original model?
[01:46] <livingdaylight> sipior, i got sound back
[01:46] <__mikem> sipior, cvs cedega does not work on fiesty, don't try it
[01:46] <Phylo> it says it's already the newest version and that 0 upgraded, installed, and 169 not upgraded
[01:46] <DeusExMac> hey anyone around that could help me with a Live CD problem?
[01:46] <vermut> anybody want to talk with man from Russia?
[01:46] <Vanax> rofl
[01:46] <leagris> zeroflag, you could see eth0 with ifconfig. May be it was first allocated to some other device like firewire
[01:46] <sipior> __mikem: wasn't planning on it :)
[01:47] <__mikem> Phylo, I would recomend just for the sake of best practices you take care of the 169 not upgraded thing
[01:47] <livingdaylight> sipior, but i suspect that if i play a game of Enigma or Go on KGS it will kill my sound again, and i'm left where i was having to reboot my system everytime between applications
[01:47] <Phylo> how do I remove them?  well I guess I could do that outside the terminal
[01:47] <zeroflag> leagris: I don't see any eth0 with ifconfig. could it be that me setting up the image in VMware have something to do with it?
[01:47] <__mikem> Phylo sudo apt-get remove beryl*
[01:47] <Chad> vermut, this is a linux help channel, not a date line
[01:47] <Chad> lol
[01:47] <tokj> lol
[01:48] <sipior> livingdaylight: most likely. try the fuser method suggested earlier, kill the processes accesing the sound devices, and see if that sorts it out
[01:48] <zeroflag> haha
[01:48] <Phylo> what I meant was when I tried to download it, it said the newest version is already installed
[01:48] <zeroflag> lol.
[01:48] <vermut>
[01:48] <Phylo> and didn't update anything
[01:48] <vermut> aa
[01:48] <vermut> ok
[01:48] <Chad> LOL
[01:48] <zeroflag> I just did sudo ifconfig eth1 down - from my SSH session. >_<
[01:48] <Phylo> with the *?
[01:48] <livingdaylight> sipior, can you remind me or shall i ask leagris again?
[01:48] <__mikem> Phylo alternately you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure beryl beryl-manager
[01:48] <DeusExMac> hey anyone around that could help me with a Live CD problem?
[01:49] <CheshireViking> !anyone | DeusExMac
[01:49] <ubotu> DeusExMac: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:49] <sipior> livingdaylight: yes, fuser -k /dev/dsp* or /dev/sound/*
[01:49] <Phylo> nah, I'm just trying it how you say to
[01:49] <DeusExMac> lmfao
[01:49] <DeusExMac> Nice
[01:49] <zeroflag> leagris: while we're at it, could you tell me what file to add commands I want to be run at/after startup?
[01:49] <sipior> livingdaylight: /dev/audio, rather
[01:49] <DeusExMac> i like that
[01:49] <ca> hey guys can u help me install a skype usb phone please?
[01:49] <__mikem> okay in that case sudo apt-get remove beryl* sudo apt-get install beryl*
[01:50] <Phylo> I uninstalled it, ok, installing
[01:50] <DeusExMac> Problem: put ubuntu live cd in...boot from cd rom...nice logo appears with a progress bar of sorts...all goes well then suddenly it faiils and i see a bunch of text .. and it says "Killed!"
[01:50] <DeusExMac> ?
[01:50] <__mikem> Phylo also before you try to run it, make sure you enable your restricted video drivers
[01:50] <leagris> zeroflag, /etc/rc.local
[01:51] <zeroflag> leagris: thanks.
[01:51] <leagris> zeroflag, /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:51] <Phylo> should I remove the emerald themes?
[01:51] <Phylo> and reinstall those too?
[01:51] <__mikem> No, they should be fine
[01:51] <ca> any1?
[01:52] <Phylo> ca:  no I
[01:52] <Phylo> *not I*
[01:52] <DeusExMac> Problem: put ubuntu live cd in...boot from cd rom...nice logo appears with a progress bar of sorts...all goes well then suddenly it faiils and i see a bunch of text .. and it says "Killed!" -- ???
[01:52] <__mikem> heh
[01:52] <Phylo> (don't know how)
[01:52] <Phylo> ok, it's installed, how do I enable my restricted video drivers?
[01:53] <Chad> DeusExMac, I think what we have here is an error mac
[01:53] <DeusExMac> ?
[01:53] <__mikem> go to system > administration > restricted driver manager
[01:53] <Chad> is this on a mac mac?
[01:54] <Phylo> no such option:  restricted driver manager
[01:54] <Chad> does it tell you any errors at all?
[01:54] <DeusExMac> nope
[01:54] <__mikem> Phylo, what version of ubuntu?
[01:54] <Phylo> (nor driver manager, nor restricted drivers, etc)  the best I see is device manager
[01:54] <Phylo> 6.10 edgy eft
[01:55] <__mikem> Phylo, oh, then you are going to have to enable them on the command line
[01:55] <__mikem> What video card are you using
[01:55] <Phylo> ugh, do you know how?  yeah one sec
[01:55] <Phylo> no, ATI radeon something
[01:55] <__mikem> d***it
[01:55] <Phylo> crap
[01:55] <__mikem> I don't know how to do it with ati, but let me look
[01:55] <Phylo> but what I read about it made it sound like NVidia would give more trouble than ATI
[01:56] <Chad> so is edgy a hella old distro?
[01:56] <Phylo> it's 6.10, last thing before 7
[01:56] <Phylo> I think
[01:56] <DeusExMac> so no one knows why i would for no apparent reason recieve a Killed message and no error?
[01:56] <Chad> alrighty
[01:57] <noob> does anyone use lostirc here?
[01:57] <Chad> hrm, DeusExMac do you have any strange hardware and is this the latest version you are runnin here?
[01:57] <DeusExMac> nah its 6.10 something i think
[01:57] <__mikem> Phylo, no ATI is definitely more trouble.
[01:57] <DeusExMac> no strange hardware as far as i know
[01:57] <__mikem> phylo, apt-get install fglrx
[01:57] <Chad> so you got the same as me DeusExMac and I get about the same error on "this" pc
[01:57] <DeusExMac> :\
[01:57] <Phylo> ATI Radeon Xpress X200M card
[01:58] <Phylo> ok
[01:58] <Chad> I got 3 pc's and it's don't like this one, lets compare hardware shall we?
[01:58] <Vanax> how do i edit my xorg.confg?
[01:58] <Phylo> no sudo?
[01:58] <DeusExMac> amd athlon64
[01:58] <DeusExMac> nvidia geforce6 series (pcie)
[01:58] <__mikem> Phylo, you will need sudo
[01:58] <Chad> I got 1 gig of ram, 160 gig hard drive, athlonxp, geforce fx 5700ultra....
[01:58] <DeusExMac> 1gig ram
[01:58] <DeusExMac> 160gig hd too
[01:58] <Phylo> __mikem:  should I just assume that part from now on?
[01:59] <__mikem> Phylo yep
[01:59] <Phylo> it said it couldn't find package
[01:59] <Chad> hrm
[01:59] <__mikem> heh hold on lets make sure I spelled it right
[01:59] <Chad> I would say DeusExMac try downloading the latest version, 7.0 or whatever
[01:59] <Chad> it might work
[01:59] <DeusExMac> hm
[01:59] <Chad> I know I had ubuntu on this once
[01:59] <Chad> BTW
[01:59] <DeusExMac> its strange, i would of thought it at least give some kinda reason
[01:59] <Phylo> you did, what's that huge number though...
[02:00] <__mikem> oops my bad its sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:00] <Phylo> ah
[02:00] <Chad> does your motherboard officially support that 160 gig hard drive?
[02:00] <Chad> as in your bios
[02:00] <DeusExMac> yeah as far as i know it does
[02:00] <Chad> I know mine don't
[02:00] <DeusExMac> its a pretty new mobo
[02:00] <Vanax> can anybody help me w/ installing wow?
[02:00] <Chad> I have to use a damn special boot sector for it
[02:01] <zeroflag> oh my god.
[02:01] <Phylo> trying it, connecting right now
[02:01] <Chad> I have to use OnTrack on it
[02:01] <zeroflag> is there any way to get VNC to work on ubuntu?
[02:01] <__mikem> Phylo, also do yourself a favor and install the package restricted-manager
[02:01] <zeroflag> I tried vnc4server and I tried the thing integrated in ubuntu - neither works.
[02:01] <Chad> it makes it a pain in the arse to install a new os
[02:02] <DeusExMac> gonna retry again, maybe look at the text more closely :/
[02:02] <CheshireViking> DeusExMac, another option you've got would be to try the alternate install cd - it uses a text based installer rather than the graphical on on the livecd, only problem is you can't make sure it works before installing
[02:02] <Phylo> sudo apt-get install package restricted-manager   ?
[02:02] <DeusExMac> sucky
[02:02] <__mikem> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[02:02] <Chad> live cd's are great
[02:02] <mani_> hello
[02:02] <Chad> at least I found out it wasn't gonna work before I installed
[02:02] <Chad> on this pc
[02:02] <Phylo> I shouldn't only do that if it doesn't work?
[02:02] <PanzerMKZ> but you can't do a dist upgrade from a live cd
[02:02] <PanzerMKZ> you can from the alt cd
[02:02] <CheshireViking> DeusExMac, would be worth you making a note of the exact error so that people will know what part of the startup fails
[02:03] <Chad> why not PanzerMKZ ?
[02:03] <PanzerMKZ> the live cd is I think an image
[02:03] <DeusExMac> i couldnt recognise an error, i just sore "Killed!"
[02:03] <Phylo> I like that black-glass theme
[02:03] <__mikem> Phylo, it should add the Restricted Driver Manager to your system > administration menu
[02:03] <PanzerMKZ> that gets up on the drive
[02:03] <DeusExMac> everything prior to it was "OK"
[02:04] <Phylo> fglrx downloaded (and installed?), getting restricted manager
[02:04] <__mikem> Phylo it worked?
[02:04] <PanzerMKZ> where as the alt cd has the packages broken out or something
[02:04] <Chad> I did a dist-upgrade on breezy
[02:04] <CheshireViking> DeusExMac, try getting hold of the 7.04 install cd, it might be that different hardware or updated hardware causes a problem that the 7.04 solves
[02:04] <Phylo> couldn't find restricted manager
[02:04] <__mikem> Phylo it must only be available in fiesty
[02:04] <DeusExMac> alright
[02:05] <DeusExMac> bbiab
[02:05] <Chad> I'll get 7.04 for this machine
[02:05] <Phylo> could be, it's not xorg-restri... or something?
[02:05] <__mikem> Phylo no thats something else
[02:05] <__mikem> okay, lets see if beryl works
[02:06] <Phylo> ok, well I can't find the manager, but I installed fglrx.   Run beryl?
[02:06] <Chad> anyone looking for a geeky married american man? *picks on that russian guy that came in earlier*
[02:06] <__mikem> rn beryl-manager
[02:06] <__mikem> err run
[02:06] <HOT> anyone know the flags for mtime, im using "-mtime -1" but i need a minute rather than day
[02:06] <Phylo> well...
[02:06] <_Roman> Ever since I updated my computer to Feisty it takes about 20-30 seconds to connect to an ssh server via an ip address.  Using wireshark it was possible to see that the problem was caused by the target machine not having a reverse dns entry.  If I add an entry to /etc/hosts and connect via ip address it almost connects instantly.  Can anyone tell me how I can fix this (without setting up reverse entries for all servers).  This did not happen when the machine was
[02:07] <Phylo> it didn't work exactly, but it improved.  I didn't lose all my apps and have to log back in after the black screen
[02:07] <Phylo> it looked like it tried to put up a splash screen, but it was just background, no image
[02:07] <__mikem> Phylo, now you should have a ruby in your tray
[02:07] <Phylo> then it quit
[02:07] <Phylo> ah, yes
[02:07] <Phylo> TOP-right, heh
[02:07] <__mikem> yup
[02:07] <__mikem> right click it
[02:08] <Phylo> then?
[02:08] <__mikem> well first go to "Select Window Manager"
[02:08] <Tru7h> YAY
[02:08] <Tru7h> My harddrive isn't erased! :D
[02:08] <__mikem> and make sure beryl is selected
[02:08] <Phylo> Beryl and Metacity (Gnome)
[02:09] <Phylo> oh ok
[02:09] <Phylo> when I try to use Beryl, it does the splash screen (attempt), then reverts
[02:09] <amigappc|need|ad> hello again ... i dont know if you know ... but i need a litte advise
[02:09] <__mikem> now, to make sure it works, I just want you to open up your home folder
[02:09] <Chad> oooh amiga
[02:10] <amigappc|need|ad> yeah chad ?
[02:10] <Phylo> open, but Beryl isn't running
[02:10] <Chad> I've never actually used an amiga, they are like one of those hard to get machines :)
[02:10] <__mikem> Phylo, I assume you are using xchat?
[02:10] <thegve> Hello. I have a small problem with a slow NFS server... The mounting goes very slow, when I finally have it mounted it is running fine. Mounting takes about 1 minute.
[02:11] <Phylo> mIRC on a different computer
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> chad yeah but my amiga time is a little time ago ..
[02:11] <Chad> only thing I knew about em was they were awesome for graphics back in the day
[02:11] <thegve> I try to NFS boot, but the kernel times out
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> and music
[02:11] <Chad> yeah
[02:11] <__mikem> oh, just open your home folder on the machine
[02:11] <Tru7h> Okay
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> nobody knows it but he had a bedder soundchip than the comodore...
[02:11] <Tru7h> I have a problem
[02:11] <Phylo> it's open
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> but nobody noticed it ...
[02:11] <Tru7h> A aligntly smaller problem
[02:11] <Tru7h> but a problem nonetheless
[02:11] <Chad> I've had a sun workstation, an apple 2, a texas instruments, an original mac, but never an amiga
[02:11] <__mikem> now, drag it around and tell me if you observe a wobble effect
[02:11] <Phylo> nope
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> and know i killed my xp on my laptop and i need some help to get him run ^
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> ^^
[02:12] <Phylo> (if I go select window manager again, Beryl isn't marked)
[02:12] <__mikem> okay
[02:12] <Chad> what's goin on with your laptop?
[02:12] <Phylo> that's what I meant by reverted
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> my amiga got a ppc card, 64mb fast ram
[02:12] <Chad> I'm installing ubuntu to my laptop right now too
[02:12] <Chad> lol
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> a graphics and a soundcard  ^
[02:12] <__mikem> Phylo, okay, hit ctrl alt backspace
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> but ubuntu dosnt like my intel chipset
[02:12] <Chad> is it x86?
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> actual i got my resolution ...
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> its a celeron
[02:12] <Chad> or ppc?
[02:13] <Chad> ooh
[02:13] <Phylo> woah, that's definitely the same thing that happened when I ran Beryl before
[02:13] <Chad> celeron ehh?
[02:13] <Chad> hrm
[02:13] <Phylo> what does it do?
[02:13] <Chad> try the newest distro?
[02:13] <Phylo> and should I log back in?
[02:13] <__mikem> Phylo yes we are restarting X
[02:13] <amigappc|need|ad> actual i let run a "vesa" mode at 1280x800
[02:13] <Phylo> what is X?
[02:13] <__mikem> X is your gui
[02:13] <Chad> Phylo, x = the gui
[02:13] <Chad> beat me
[02:13] <Chad> lol
[02:14] <doublehp> After update (breezy), X was broken; I fixed broken link /etc/X11/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg and now I am said: Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type => segfault; any idea ?
[02:14] <__mikem> ;)
[02:14] <{DB}HobbitJa> Hello guys i wonder if you can help a linux n00b?
[02:14] <tmbt> i guys .. i need a fast help .. if someone could help. The question is : From where ubuntu 6.06 get device that are listed under Place->Computer ? i would to add some hd that are not show there
[02:14] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, did you google it?
[02:14] <Phylo> I thought it was Metacity
[02:14] <__mikem> Phylo okay now what we are going to do is try launching beryl-manager again
[02:14] <Phylo> ok
[02:14] <amigappc|need|ad> yeah i did ... and i got nothing ^.
[02:14] <ZeroA4> !ask | {DB}HobbitJa
[02:14] <ubotu> {DB}HobbitJa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <{DB}HobbitJa> My question is similar, my hdd isnt showing up and i cant mount it
[02:14] <__mikem> Metacity is a window manager, but it requires x to work
[02:14] <{DB}HobbitJa> lol k
[02:14] <Phylo> um, ok
[02:15] <Chad> I would help but I know nothing about the architecture of the amiga
[02:15] <Phylo> manager running, metacity selected
[02:15] <amigappc|need|ad> i tryed the 915res. and the told me, that he cant detect the chip ...
[02:15] <Phylo> (is already selected)
[02:15] <amigappc|need|ad> @chat noooo, im on an ibm compatible laptop
[02:15] <{DB}HobbitJa> basically my question is this: Ive connected another drive to ubuntu, it is a sata-300 drive but i cannot see it
[02:15] <__mikem> yes, we are going to try to select beryl again
[02:15] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, what video card you got?
[02:15] <{DB}HobbitJa> i try to mount it using this command "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/satadrive"
[02:15] <Phylo> it just flickered, then back to metacity
[02:15] <amigappc|need|ad> its an build-in intel chipset ... i dont know witch exaktly?!
[02:15] <Chad> I know it detects my radeon mobility
[02:16] <__mikem> This is why I hate ati cards
[02:16] <Phylo> (no wobble)
[02:16] <amigappc|need|ad> i know that must be an intel i8xx
[02:16] <__mikem> let me see if there are any othe rpackages for the ati card
[02:16] <Phylo> np
[02:16] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, what version of ubuntu are you trying?
[02:16] <Tru7h> Here's the problem: I was trying to partition my hard drive to install ubuntu, but long story short it gave me an error, said to restart, and now windows won't boot (The error BIOS gives me is "0 active partitions, F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup"). When I went back to the partitioner it showed both of my drives (even the external one I didn't do anything to) as empty unaccolated free space. I opened up both drives in nautilus and they're st
[02:16] <doublehp> {DB}HobbitJa: if it is USB, then it will be detected automatically; other wise, you have to enter manually in sysconf; other people, or Ubuntu forums/FAQs will help
[02:16] <{DB}HobbitJa> It says mount point does not exist
[02:16] <amigappc|need|ad> because its an old laptop ... i also got problems, because ubuntu doesnt knows my w-lan build-in adapter ...
[02:17] <sahil> anyone know how to change the resolution of a picture in gimp, i need to make it work with beryl skydome
[02:17] <{DB}HobbitJa> its a sata interface
[02:17] <amigappc|need|ad> chad i use the feisty fawn
[02:17] <amigappc|need|ad> 7.04
[02:17] <Chad> sahil, image>scale image
[02:17] <doublehp> {DB}HobbitJa: mkdir mntpoint
[02:17] <sahil> thanks chad, will tell you if it worked :)
[02:17] <__mikem> Phylo okay see if xserver-xorg-ati-display is installed
[02:17] <Phylo> am I using AIGLX or XGL?  (fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft)
[02:17] <{DB}HobbitJa> thats all i type?
[02:17] <tmbt> Hobbit create the folder /mnt/satadrive before
[02:17] <{DB}HobbitJa> o i see
[02:17] <Chad> damn amigappc|need|ad you would think that would work :/
[02:17] <Phylo> how do I check without installing?
[02:17] <Phylo> or should I just install?
[02:18] <__mikem> Phylo I use XGL personally
[02:18] <__mikem> Phylo try installing it
[02:18] <{DB}HobbitJa> so mkdir /mnt/satadrive?
[02:18] <pyro540> is it possible to get directx 8.1 for ubuntu?
[02:18] <Phylo> couldn't find package
[02:18] <amigappc|need|ad> @chad -> query ?
[02:18] <doublehp> pyro540: directx is Windows only
[02:18] <pyro540> shit
[02:19] <Chad> I got the query
[02:19] <Tru7h> Here's the problem: I was trying to partition my hard drive to install ubuntu, but long story short it gave me an error, said to restart, and now windows won't boot (The error BIOS gives me is "0 active partitions, F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup"). When I went back to the partitioner it showed both of my drives (even the external one I didn't do anything to) as empty unaccolated free space. I opened up both drives in nautilus and they're st
[02:19] <pyro540> what about wine then?
[02:19] <doublehp> pyro540: not even for MacIntel, or any other OS (BSD, Sun ... )
[02:19] <Phylo> "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-ati-display"
[02:19] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[02:19] <doublehp> Tru7h: dont repeat, you are bothering us
[02:19] <Chad> check to see if your model is there and if you can find a solution
[02:19] <tmbt> hobbit better use "sudo mkdir /mnt/satadrive"
[02:19] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : is it still labeled as active? the first drive ( and dissconnect the usb drive...
[02:19] <__mikem> okay, can you pastebin your sources.list file
[02:19] <amigappc|need|ad> i dont think so but i will search ^^
[02:19] <orbin> sahil: image > scale
[02:19] <doublehp> Phylo: can you help my X probme ?
[02:19] <{DB}HobbitJa> ok cool cheers dude
[02:19] <pyro540> because the game i am running in wine said that I triggered a bug
[02:19] <Phylo> doublehp:  I doubt it
[02:19] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : first disconnect the USB drive
[02:20] <Phylo> __mikem:  I can if Ubuntu comes with an IRC client
[02:20] <Phylo> oh, wait
[02:20] <Phylo> lol, nvm
[02:20] <Phylo> one sec
[02:20] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: OKay, it's disconnected
[02:20] <smuggler8> Trying to get some help with installing my wireless USB network adapter. By running lshw and lsmod i know that my device is recognized but there is some problem with the driver not working
[02:20] <ziroday> doublehp: whats wrong?
[02:20] <__mikem> Phylo, no use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:20] <doublehp> ziroday: After update (breezy), X was broken; I fixed broken link /etc/X11/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg and now I am said: Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type => segfault; any idea ?
[02:20] <unimatrix9> then boot again, and if it fails , see with the partitioner if its has an labe , active... dont do anything else yet..
[02:20] <Phylo> um yeah, where was that file?
[02:21] <ziroday> doublehp: ouch, what graphics card? and how did you install it
[02:21] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : what program do you use to partition?
[02:21] <__mikem> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:21] <smuggler8> Under lsmod i can see the driver that should be used but it is categorized under usb UNCLAIMED
[02:21] <tmbt> anyway .. someone know how to add an hardisk under Places->Computer ?
[02:21] <amigappc|need|ad> @chad holy sh.t ... there are a lot of laptops but not my version ^
[02:21] <doublehp> ziroday: used to work until apt-get update &&dist-upgrade :)
[02:21] <Chad> hrm
[02:21] <Chad> hold on
[02:21] <Chad> lemme look for more sites
[02:21] <doublehp> ziroday: PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AB PCI Bridge
[02:22] <ziroday> doublehp: yeah breezy to dapper upgrade is akin to a wreking ball
[02:22] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html
[02:22] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: Well, I was using GNOME Partition Editor. Both that and the partitioner in the LiveCD Installer show both disks as blank.
[02:22] <doublehp> ziroday: I dont have yet any dapper line in conf :)
[02:22] <ziroday> doublehp: you tried reconfiguring x?
[02:22] <Phylo> __mikem:  one sec, my dns servers are REALLY slow
[02:22] <doublehp> ziroday: no ;)
[02:22] <Phylo> tonight, I'll try to fix that tomorrow
[02:22] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, here's a compatibility list too: http://tuxmobil.org/laptop_manufacturer.html
[02:22] <ziroday> doublehp: u know how?
[02:22] <smuggler8> This is becoming a real headache and i've spent hours in forums and wiki etc trying to fix. The thing is it used to work ok with the edgy live cd but now it won't
[02:22] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : and you did not do anything ?
[02:23] <doublehp> ziroday: cause that is not my aim, so, I did not touch the conf
[02:23] <amigappc|need|ad> @chad the problem is, that i own a medion sim2000 laptop ... its a msi version ...
[02:23] <amigappc|need|ad> but its a discounter laptop ...
[02:23] <Chad> oooh
[02:23] <toe007> Does anyone know how to remove RealPlayer that was manually installed from *.bin under Feisty?
[02:23] <Chad> o_O
[02:23] <Chad> I think that you may have a problemo then
[02:23] <smuggler8> anyone know about wireless under fiesty?
[02:23] <ziroday> doublehp:  well segfault's are fatal and you can try a reconfigure or a reinstall sorry
[02:24] <doublehp> ziroday: i think the key point is that, it seems update migrated Xorg monoloyic to modular; it also did bad things on my debian when I did it last years
[02:24] <ziroday> smuggler8: ill try what card?
[02:24] <Tru7h> Unimatrix: All I tried to do was resize my NTFS partition, put an extension partition in (I had two other partitions already) and put an ext3 and a linux-swap partition in the extension to install Ubuntu on.
[02:24] <doublehp> ziroday: I had notupgrade this machine since >2y
[02:24] <smuggler8> it's a linksys USB one- based on zd1211rw
[02:24] <ziroday> doublehp: this is out of my reach sorry i recommend a reinstall
[02:25] <ziroday> smuggler8: linksys are notoriuos
[02:25] <ziroday> smuggler8: you using 7
[02:25] <ziroday> *7.04
[02:25] <smuggler8> yes just upgraded to 7.04
[02:25] <amigappc|need|ad> yeah i think so
[02:25] <doublehp> ziroday: what the apt option to force re-install of package ?
[02:25] <ziroday> smuggler8: did it work before
[02:25] <smuggler8> it worked under 6.10 live CD about 3months a go which is odd
[02:25] <amigappc|need|ad> but i want to be the master of the laptop and not be mastered by the laptop ^
[02:25] <doublehp> ziroday: I think the key point is the migration to modular
[02:25] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, does their website have any linux support on it?
[02:25] <Chad> I know dell does...
[02:25] <amigappc|need|ad> no
[02:25] <yeniklasor> IS Gnome desktop written with C++ ?
[02:26] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : yes i understand that...
[02:26] <amigappc|need|ad> medion doesnt ... and i dont remember witch msi laptop it was ...
[02:26] <doublehp> yeniklasor: some people even mention C#^^
[02:26] <__mikem> yeniklasor no its writen in C
[02:26] <smuggler8> but will not work under any ubuntu that i have available, live or otherwise
[02:26] <smuggler8> will work under xp
[02:26] <Phylo> __mikem:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23581/
[02:26] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : what would you like to do? repair xp bootloader?
[02:26] <amigappc|need|ad> but i can try to figure out witch and then i can have a look on the msi pagae
[02:27] <ziroday> smuggler8: hmm try unplugging then restarting
[02:27] <tmbt> well .. at least someone please tell me how to list all the running deamons on a server using command line :P
[02:27] <neopsyche> hello.. im here.. since the videolan channel is quite silent...
[02:27] <neopsyche> can anyone help me with a challenge?
[02:27] <neopsyche> greetings, I am in need of some advice on how to stream video over network.
[02:27] <neopsyche> 	<neopsyche>	Let me elaborate.... I have a small home/office network on 10/100/1000 cable running through ethernet broadband router.. computers are linked to the router using DHCP, I have satellite tv signal from decoder going into tv card on pc in office.. I want to stream this signal to my room pc at other desk. Can anyone help me configure this.
[02:27] <iDN> Hi everybody. Anyone has a clue where can i get dictionaries in .dic format?
[02:28] <ziroday> !ping
[02:28] <ubotu> pong
[02:28] <smuggler8> thanks ziroday, i guess i'll have to persevere, that's what sucks about linux- nobody wants to acknowledge it and make drivers
[02:28] <iDN> Try to search google. Couldn't find anything useful for my language.
[02:28] <sciboy> What software do you recommend for ripping and encoding a dvd?
[02:28] <doublehp> iDN: cant you export existing ones ?
[02:28] <ziroday> smuggler8: also theres ndiswrapper if all else fails
[02:28] <Phylo> __mikem:  Did you get that paste?  I know it took a while
[02:28] <arty123> Hello guys, in my kubuntu installation i am not having any file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and /proc/acpi/fan/, i have unloaded and reloaded acpi and fan modules, restarted acpi apm services. What should i do to know my cpu's temperature ?
[02:28] <neopsyche> try sourceforge may iDN
[02:28] <neopsyche> maby
[02:28] <neopsyche> or perhaps linux sites
[02:28] <sciboy> I have a portable video player I'd like to stock up with my collection. =P
[02:28] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: I guess. If it'll help get Windows running.
[02:28] <neopsyche> Kubuntu has given me bad experience
[02:28] <ziroday> !dvd::rip | sciboy
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd::rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <neopsyche> greetings, I am in need of some advice on how to stream video over network.
[02:29] <neopsyche> 	<neopsyche>	Let me elaborate.... I have a small home/office network on 10/100/1000 cable running through ethernet broadband router.. computers are linked to the router using DHCP, I have satellite tv signal from decoder going into tv card on pc in office.. I want to stream this signal to my room pc at other desk. Can anyone help me configure this.
[02:29] <smuggler8> i found the ndiswrapper thing a bit hard to grasp, could u recommend a good guide?
, well I tried to take .BGLs, but couldn't find any package for ubuntu which support them.
[02:29] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : i give you an how too, to read ok?
[02:29] <__mikem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23583/ Phylo, I made some changes and I want you to put those changes in your file
[02:29] <ziroday> smuggler8: theres a gui for ubuntu in the repos
[02:29] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: Okay
[02:29] <unimatrix9> http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/fixmbr-is-your-friend/
[02:29] <ziroday> !ndiswrapper | smuggler8
[02:29] <ubotu> smuggler8: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:29] <rmd_> this is funny
[02:29] <unimatrix9> bookmark or read..good luck
[02:29] <ziroday> !madwifi | smuggler8
[02:29] <doublehp> iDN: this kind of filters usually require manual install; search freshmeat and sourceforge for projects
[02:29] <rmd_> i turned off "show marker line" in gnome-xchat... and low and behold.. its still friggin there
[02:30] <amigappc|need|ad> chad i think i made a failure ... i booted with acpi=off ... only then my laptop works with ubuntu ... does you know a way to reaktivate the acpi funktion ?
[02:30] <ziroday> !wireless > smuggler8
[02:30] <smuggler8> thanks
[02:30] <iDN> Thanks, <doublehp>, I'll and get back here if it wouldn't help. Thanks again.
[02:30] <Chad> it's inyour grub config
[02:30] <ziroday> amigappc|need|ad: acpi is only for comps that support it if you had to use acpi=off then youre comp cant support it
[02:31] <fargiolas> is it possible to write some udev rule to prevent hal to access a partion in any way? even if called with sudo?
[02:31] <Phylo> __mikem:  was it just those two security lines uncommented?  (just curious, I'm doing a copy-paste of the whole file)
[02:31] <Chad> looking at my laptop support I see Disable acpi at boot by adding  'acpi=off apm=on'  to the kernel line in grub config.
[02:31] <__mikem> I definitely uncommented more than 2 lines
[02:31] <Phylo> __mikem:  anyway, done
[02:31] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad,
[02:31] <amigappc|need|ad> @ziroday my comp supports buttons they need acpi ...
[02:32] <ziroday> amigappc|need|ad: then acpi options are in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:32] <__mikem> Phylo okay now see if xserver-xorg-ati-display is installed
[02:32] <ziroday> i think
[02:32] <Phylo> oh, everything except the commens :-)
[02:32] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, I guess you would Disable acpi at boot by adding  'acpi=on apm=off'  to the kernel line in grub config.
[02:32] <Phylo> couldn't find package
[02:32] <Chad> erm enable
[02:32] <Tru7h> Firefox opens for about a second then the window closes.
[02:32] <hector> Hello everybody!!
[02:32] <amigappc|need|ad> i read pci=noacpi
[02:33] <ziroday> Tru7h: running compiz or beryl?
[02:33] <velko> fargiolas: you can restrict the access to a partition on mounting (even root won't be able to write for example if you mount the partition as read only). what are you trying to do?
[02:33] <Phylo> command:  "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-ati-display"
[02:33] <Tru7h> Ziroday: Nope, just the LiveCD
[02:33] <{DB}HobbitJa> me again lol, ok i tried the sudo mkdir and then mount cmd but get this: "unknown system filetype linux_raid_member"
[02:33] <Phylo> __mikem:  but that doesn't have anything to do with the card does it?  that just means it can't find the package
[02:33] <Phylo> I thought
[02:33] <ziroday> Tru7h: hmm you using brightside?
[02:34] <Tru7h> ziroday: I don't know what that is, so I don't think so.
[02:34] <__mikem> Phylo, granted, but if you were using an nvidia card the ONLY thing you would need is nvidia-glx
[02:34] <fargiolas> velko: i'm givin my old pc to my sister. It has two disk, the first disk is shared but has a partition that i want prevent her to access it. I've removed it from fstab but she's still able to mount it with hal
[02:34] <gudi> hi
[02:34] <ziroday> Phylo: u tried envy?
[02:34] <{DB}HobbitJa> hi
[02:34] <anilomkar> I am want update firefox from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> please help me out (Feisty)
[02:34] <Phylo> is beryl the only way I can get that awesome cube?
[02:34] <Phylo> ziroday:  no I haven't
[02:34] <fargiolas> velko: i'd also like to have a user that can access it read and write
[02:35] <dark_> hello
[02:35] <fargiolas> velko: and to prevent access even with sudo
[02:35] <gudi> i have some problems with a script in event.d . If i use "start script" it works. But on boot it get not started .. Any idea ?
[02:35] <__mikem> phylo, yes
[02:35] <ziroday> Phylo: u can get the cube in compiz and #ddesktop but beryl is the best, you can get envy at www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:35] <shiftplusone> does anyone know if there's anything wrong with the Australian ubuntu servers?
[02:35] <amigappc|need|ad> ok guys my last question ... if there is avaible a intel 9xx driver
[02:35] <ziroday> Phylo: envy easily installs the drivers from ati for your card
[02:35] <Phylo> nvidia scripts, sounds like it might have trouble with ati cards
[02:36] <CheshireViking> !envy
[02:36] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:36] <__mikem> zirdoday, I have tried everything I know how to do and I can't get beryl to run on his machine, can you take over for me
[02:36] <elYase> #bash
[02:36] <ziroday> Phylo: it covers both
[02:36] <shiftplusone> synaptic doesn't install anything and apt-get stays on "waiting for headers" for about 5 minutes before installing
[02:36] <velko> fargiolas: if you put in fstab options like "noauto,user,uid=YOURUID" you'll be able to mount this partition, but not your sisters user
[02:36] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : maybe you just got an bad day....:P
[02:36] <Phylo> __mikem:  thank you tons
[02:36] <Phylo> __mikem:  you did at least get it to stop crashing X
[02:36] <__mikem> Sorry I couldn't help
[02:36] <ziroday> mikem" ill try :(
[02:36] <Ajits> what is Edgy?
[02:36] <__mikem> thanks
[02:36] <fargiolas> velko: thanks i'll give it a try
[02:36] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : or , your livecd is actually corrupted , check it.
[02:37] <ziroday> Phylo: what card exactly?
[02:37] <Phylo> Ajits:  Edgy is the name for Ubuntu 6
[02:37] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: I checked it before and it says there was one error
[02:37] <Chad> hey, from the live cd, it asks me if I wanna install 7.04 :)
[02:37] <Tru7h> but it didn't say what
[02:37] <__mikem> I am going to stick around so if ziroday manages to fix it, I will know what to do in the future
[02:37] <{DB}HobbitJa> Any idea how to mount a RAID sata drive?
[02:37] <velko> fargiolas: look at "man mount" for more options (they differ for the different file system types)
[02:37] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : does not sound to well then...
[02:37] <luca____> hello all:)
[02:37] <unimatrix9> :)
[02:37] <fargiolas> velko: ok
[02:37] <Phylo> ziroday:  ATI Radeon Xpress X200M
[02:37] <ziroday> Phylo: what gfx card exactly?
[02:38] <Phylo> sorry, I was looking it up
[02:38] <CapriCorn^80> wat u people if u want to jump from edgy to fiesty fawn ? new installation ?
[02:38] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Okay;. I'll just save that link in a text file on my windows partition and reboot
[02:38] <ziroday> Phylo: that card i think only has 2d graphics for it, lemme go check
[02:38] <Phylo> lol
[02:38] <CapriCorn^80> wat u people if u want to jump from edgy to fiesty fawn ? new installation ?
[02:38] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : better print it if you can, since you cannot boot the Os
[02:38] <velko> __mikem: does "sudo lspci" help?
[02:38] <amigappc|need|ad>  ok girls. thx for the support ...  but i need more exp. thanks and have a nice weekend
[02:38] <Phylo> velko:  what will that do?
[02:39] <amigappc|need|ad> i will reconnect in the afternon after work
[02:39] <velko> Phylo: it lists all devices attached to the PCI bus
[02:39] <ziroday> Phylo: im sorry its all bad  2D Acceleration Only    Xpress 200M Northbridge integrated GPUs
[02:39] <Chad> see, that's why I don't buy noname laptops...
[02:39] <velko> Phylo: you can use the option "-v" for more info
[02:39] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Yeah, but I can still get to the disk from nautilus
[02:39] <Phylo> ziroday:  that's bad for me isn't it
[02:40] <Chad> noname laptops = hardly anyone owns em, and support usally sucks, and linux installs are usally a pain
[02:40] <__mikem> velko funnily enough, the ASLA works witht eh soundcard. I don't need to configure it. But I always thought HP used creative labs cards and obviously this system doesn't use a creative labs card other wise sound wouldn't work right now
[02:40] <ziroday> Phylo: we can try
[02:40] <ziroday> __mikem: no most hp systens use an intergrated intel sound card
[02:40] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Nevermind, read only disk... :/
[02:41] <Phylo> ziroday:  what if say, I give up the cube, and just go with the cool window effects?
[02:41] <__mikem> my mistake, but I am not complaining
[02:41] <velko> __mikem: does "lspci -v" tells you something about the sound card?
[02:41] <ziroday> Phylo: why dont you follwo this howto : http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[02:41] <Chad> you know it was actually easier setting up my wireless nic in linux than it was in windowS?
[02:41] <Phylo> ziroday:  If me being on Edgy Eft won't matter, then I will
[02:41] <ziroday> Phylo: can you upgrade?
[02:41] <Phylo> do I have to burn a CD and reinstall to upgrade?
[02:41] <Chad> I didn't even need the stupid cd, and craptastic linksys software
[02:42] <CheshireViking> !upgrade | Phylo
[02:42] <ubotu> Phylo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:42] <ziroday> Phylo: no you can do it over the net
[02:42] <ziroday> Phylo: or you can try envy but i mite not work with your card
[02:42] <Phylo> ...Linux ******* PWNS windows.
[02:42] <fail> Alright guys, I set up ntfs-3g and ntfs-config, but when I use ntfs-config I can only enable reading and writing for external NTFS drives
[02:42] <Chad> I know Phylo
[02:42] <Chad> lol
[02:42] <Chad> I just wish everyone ported to linux...
[02:43] <fail> I also have myself set to use fuse filesystems
[02:43] <ziroday> fail: you need to install all the ntfs drivers in synaptic
[02:43] <fail> All of them
[02:43] <fail> Oh
[02:43] <fail> Okay
[02:43] <fail> Thanks
[02:43] <ziroday> Chad: i wish ati and creative supported linux
[02:43] <ziroday> fail: np
[02:43] <__mikem> velko, I see a whole bunch of network divices, and my nvidia graphics card,but no soundcard
[02:43] <Phylo> ziroday:  ok.  Working on upgrading
[02:43] <ziroday> Phylo: gd luck
[02:43] <Chad> ziroday, I wish all my favorite games did...
[02:44] <ziroday> Chad: oh yeah that too
[02:44] <ziroday> Chad: what games?
[02:44] <__mikem> ziroday, creative labs products are all $h!t
[02:44] <user_> hi , when i start heroes IV setup from .iso on loopmount, with wine or cedega (any of them) , nothing happens
[02:44] <ziroday> __mikem: encore encore lol
[02:44] <Chad> one is an mmo I play called last chaos, they used to work with wine, but then they added some anti-cheat code that trips up on wine...
[02:45] <Chad> it thinks it's running twice on wine...
[02:45] <Phylo> !!!173 things to update
[02:45] <ziroday> Chad: u tried cedega?
[02:45] <Chad> yeah
[02:45] <ziroday> Phylo: it mite take a while
[02:45] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Can you hold onto that link while I reboot please?
[02:45] <Chad> that don't work at all with that game, never has
[02:45] <ziroday> Chad: crossover?
[02:45] <unimatrix9> yes , 10min
[02:45] <unimatrix9> :P
[02:45] <Chad> same deal
[02:45] <Tru7h> xD
[02:45] <Tru7h> i'll be back
[02:45] <Chad> the developers don't even care either
[02:45] <Chad> lol
[02:46] <ziroday> chano they dont unfortunatly
[02:46] <Chad> but I got 2 windows machines here, so no biggy
[02:46] <Phylo> one's called xserver-xorg-video-all, don't kill me __mikem :-d
[02:46] <__mikem> Phylo, lol
[02:46] <ziroday> Chad: the day CS:S comes to linux will be the day heaven opens up
[02:46] <utopiah> hello
[02:46] <Chad> I couldn't install linux on this machine if I wanted to
[02:46] <Phylo> I think I'll try beryll again after updating, before going to fiesta
[02:46] <Chad> lol ziroday
[02:46] <Chad> that was an april fools joke at linuxgames.com one year
[02:47] <Phylo> !wtf CS:S
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf cs:s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Chad> they were like: Valve releases secretive Linux Port!
[02:47] <ziroday> @42
[02:47] <Chad> CS:S is counter strike: source
[02:47] <Breetai> Hi all, I have a dual boot machine feisty fawn/Xp. I had not run xp in weeks, ran it last night, rebooted, and now my computer is locking after the message "Activating Swapfile  OK". Any ideas?
[02:47] <utopiah> holy shit, so many people here
[02:47] <__mikem> Phylo, whats CS:S
[02:48] <PriceChild> !ohmy | utopiah
[02:48] <ubotu> utopiah: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:48] <Phylo> oooh
[02:48] <utopiah> sorry :)
[02:48] <ziroday> __mikem: counter strike source
[02:48] <__mikem> oh
[02:48] <sipior> he said "holy" shit, which is pretty family-friendly!
[02:48] <PriceChild> sipior, Please don't.
[02:48] <__mikem> !ohmy sipior
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy sipior - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <doublehp> which is more recent: breezy or hoary ?
[02:48] <utopiah> sipior, "she" ;)
[02:49] <ziroday> doublehp: breezy
[02:49] <sipior> utopiah: either way :)
[02:49] <utopiah> sure :)
[02:49] <doublehp> ziroday: whats more recent than breezy ? dapper ?
[02:49] <__mikem> doublehp, none of them are resent
[02:49] <ziroday> doublehp: yeah
[02:49] <CheshireViking> doublehp, the most recent version if 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[02:49] <ziroday> doublehp: then edgy then fiesty
[02:49] <doublehp> ziroday: do you think i can "try" a migration to dapper before formating ?
[02:50] <utopiah> is it worth it to upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[02:50] <ziroday> doublehp: what u mean
[02:50] <sipior> utopiah: usually
[02:50] <ziroday> hi its nick here
[02:50] <kore2> ive installed ubuntu but my internet connection doesn't work on my laptop...
[02:50] <ziroday> whoops sorry wrongggggggg chat lol
[02:50] <doublehp> ziroday: to try to fix my X problem, you said you advertise me to re-install; can I try an upgrade to dapper first ?
[02:50] <Phylo> lol, ubotu pmed me to say "I'm only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent."
[02:50] <utopiah> sipior, thanks ... i never know if there are more bugs in new versions
[02:50] <Chad> kore2, what brand laptop and wireless nic?
[02:51] <kore2> Chad: Toshiba
[02:51] <rmd_> should i install gnome baker or xfburn?
[02:51] <Chad> integrated nic?
[02:51] <Chad> kore2 ^
[02:51] <fail> ziroday: I installed all the ntfs packages in snyaptic
[02:51] <fail> And I still have the same problem
[02:51] <utopiah> gnome baker is pretty cool
[02:52] <ziroday> fail: restart
[02:52] <xzu> anybody here knows if it's possible to attache to a spawned vncviewer?
[02:52] <Chad> kore2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba
[02:52] <xzu> xm create spawns it, but does not create a window
[02:52] <kore2> Chad: yea, I think so, on my icon it says 'Enable Networking' which is enalbed and 'Enable Wireless' it disabled
[02:52] <rmd_> is there a way to turn off the background fading when i get a password prompt?
[02:52] <Chad> check out that page kore2
[02:53] <Chad> see if it says anything about ur nic
[02:53] <ziroday> Phylo: hows the upgrade going?
[02:53] <tarnap_> hi dudes! got a little question :D
[02:53] <doublehp> ziroday: to try to fix my X problem, you said you advertise me to re-install; can I try an upgrade to dapper first ?
[02:53] <kore2> Chad: ok, hold on
[02:54] <ziroday> doublehp: sure
[02:54] <ziroday> doublehp: cant think why not
[02:54] <Phylo> well I have a lot of upgrading to do
[02:54] <Phylo> I've got to get off this comp anyway
[02:54] <Phylo> I'll see you afterward, probably, hopefully, on xchat
[02:54] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : are you back already?
[02:54] <ziroday> Phylo: cya
[02:55] <unimatrix9> got to go in 5min
[02:55] <Phylo> peace, and a million thanks to __mikem, and a bunch to ziroday
[02:55] <ziroday> Phylo: good luck
[02:55] <kore2> Chad: I don't see anything that could help me out
[02:55] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : are you back already?
[02:55] <__mikem> Good luck Phylo
[02:55] <kore2> Chad: do you have any ideas?
[02:55] <Chad> have you properly setup your nic in the networking section?
[02:55] <Chad> or does it even see it?
[02:55] <kore2> Chad: how can I check that?
[02:56] <Chad> system>adminastration>networking
[02:56] <unimatrix9> !fixmbr
[02:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:56] <Chad> I had to setup my network on the nic with no security on the router...
[02:57] <Chad> so most likely I'm gonna have my neighbors leechin me again...
[02:57] <tarnap_> i have dualbooting ubuntu (1 feisty + 1 edgy), everytime there's a kernel update on feisty i have to write the new entry down to the menu.lst in edgy's menu.lst... would a common partition for /boot/ solve this problem?
[02:57] <kore2> Chad: its set to 'Wired connection' address: dhcp
[02:57] <sipior> tarnap_: that would be a bit dangerous, i would guess
[02:57] <Chad> kore2, you don't see any wireless slots on there?
[02:57] <sipior> tarnap_: why dual boot feisty and edgy?
[02:57] <Chad> hell I had 2...
[02:58] <tarnap_> i have my reasons ;)
[02:58] <tarnap_> why should it be dangerous?
[02:58] <kore2> Chad: I have 'Wireless connection, Roaming mode enabled' and 'Modem connection'
[02:58] <Chad> ONLY wired?
[02:58] <iDN> OK, i found the package I needed, downloaded a tar.gz file, followed a guide to install using the terminal.  Where the files i have just compiled?
[02:58] <sipior> tarnap_: actually, if you keep the kernel updates separate, there would be no conflict, but there's no guarantee that a recent kernel wouldn't break edgy
[02:58] <Chad> roaming?!?!
[02:58] <Pelo> tarnap_, not likely,  just copy your edgy entry to a text file and it will save you the trouble of rewriting it,  you can just copy/paste it
[02:58] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : are you back already?
[02:58] <kore2> Chad: but its a minus in front of wireless and modem connection.
[02:58] <kore2> Chad: yea
[02:58] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Yeah
[02:58] <Chad> kore2, is this a cellular wireless we are talkin about here?
[02:58] <unimatrix9> http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/fixmbr-is-your-friend/
[02:59] <Tru7h> Took a bit >>
[02:59] <Tru7h> xD
[02:59] <tarnap_> i hate copy-pasting... that's why i want to unify it
[02:59] <unimatrix9> yes i see..well got to go, hopefully you get it fixed..
[02:59] <unimatrix9> bye bye
[02:59] <Pelo> tarnap_, maybe the ppl in #grub might have an answer for you
[02:59] <Tru7h> Thanks
[02:59] <kore2> Chad: no.. I want to connect with Wired connection
[02:59] <tarnap_> stimmt!
[02:59] <Chad> ooooh
[02:59] <unimatrix9> np
[02:59] <unimatrix9> bye
[02:59] <Chad> well
[02:59] <unimatrix9> all
[02:59] <sipior> tarnap_: actually, it could work, the kernel entries would be separate anyhow.
[02:59] <ferronica> when i play MP3 via VLC produce crackling sound , any one tell me what could be the problem?
[02:59] <tarnap_> thanks... il ask those grub dudes ;)
[03:00] <Chad> ok, we talkin to a router or phone modem or what?
[03:00] <ferronica> or do i need to install extra plug in for it ?
[03:00] <kore2> Chad: I don't have any phone modem or a router
[03:00] <Pelo> ferronica, how do you mp3 sounds in other apps ?
[03:00] <Chad> what kind of connection? Cable? Dsl? T1?
[03:00] <kore2> Chad: cabled
[03:00] <kore2> Chad: cable*
[03:00] <Chad> alright, hold on...
[03:01] <kore2> Chad: sure
[03:01] <Chad> it should just be DHCP
[03:01] <Chad> and autodetect and BLAM done
[03:01] <kore2> Chad: it is but it doesnt work, don't know the reason
[03:02] <Chad> gimme a second to install all these 171 updates... then I'll look at it
[03:02] <Chad> it's 75 percent done...
[03:02] <kore2> Chad: ohh, k
[03:02] <z3r0ph3wl> i have problem with my ubuntu second time its freeze... i can move mouse but its sow slow
[03:02] <ferronica> Pelo: perfect , i use Rhythmbox
[03:02] <tarnap_> songbird 4 life!
[03:03] <ziroday> tarnap_: songbirds awesome cant wait till they get ti out of beta
[03:03] <Chad> kore2, did you get my pm?
[03:03] <tarnap_> yeah... it's great... it doesn't have the look and feel of a usual application but it's great
[03:03] <kore2> Chad: no.. I'm not registered
[03:04] <Chad> oh
[03:04] <Drel3> have problem with wine, anyone
[03:04] <Chad> what's ur problem Drel3?
[03:04] <Drel3> when i start wine i see just black screen and then login menu, anyone know what is cousing this
[03:04] <ferronica> Pelo: any idea?
[03:04] <Chad> Drel3, what program are you trying to run?
[03:04] <Drel3> wine
[03:05] <Drel3> emulator
[03:05] <Chad> I know that
[03:05] <z3r0ph3wl> i have problem with my ubuntu second time its freeze... i can move mouse but its sow slow. then i use restart by button on pc. what it could be?
[03:05] <Pici> Drel3: What program are you trying to run with wine?
[03:05] <Chad> What windows program are you trying to run with wine...
[03:05] <Drel3> ah utorrent
[03:05] <Felarin> utorrent should be fine in wine, in fact, i'm running it now with wine
[03:05] <Chad> there are good torrent apps for linux you know, you don't need wine...
[03:05] <Felarin> what's the issue?
[03:05] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: slow as in choppy? or maybe the mouse speed just needs increasing?
[03:06] <Chad> I use bittornado
[03:06] <Chad> on this pc though I use bitcomet
[03:06] <Drel3> utorrent was working for me ago 5 day but now
[03:06] <ferronica> when i play MP3 via VLC produce crackling sound , any one tell me what could be the problem?
[03:06] <Felarin> did you move the path of utorrent? if so, you must modify the launcher as well
[03:06] <Chad> Drel3, did you do anything to your wine since then?
[03:07] <Chad> thanks Felarin :)
[03:07] <Drel3> i remove him
[03:07] <Drel3> then agin install
[03:07] <Drel3> again
[03:07] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: sorry, that was a dumb thing to say, of course you meant choppy. are you running compiz or beryl? also, which video card?
[03:07] <Felarin> ferronica : does this happen only with VLC? tried other apps?
[03:07] <ferronica> when i use i use Rhythmbox its perfect no problem
[03:07] <Felarin> Drel3 : did you purge it completely before reinstalling?
[03:07] <z3r0ph3wl> sipior,  no i run simple metacity no extra but yeah i have installed beryl just dont use it
[03:08] <ferronica> Felarin: yes with VLC only
[03:08] <Felarin> ferronica : what version of VLC media player are you using? Could be some settings that you might need to tweak.
[03:08] <Drel3> i tryed wit eh rijecnik thats program for word dictionary in my country
[03:08] <Drel3> with
[03:08] <shoot`> fellas, using gnome, is there any way to get the trash (eg. the trash icon itself) to contain trash from all the drives?
[03:08] <Drel3> and is same
[03:08] <ferronica> Felarin: VLC media player 0.8.6 (wxWidgets interface)
[03:08] <Tru7h> This is really stupid but what does it mean to mount or unmount a drive?
[03:09] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: and there's nothing running in the background?
[03:09] <Chad> Tru7h, if a drive is mounted you can look at it and modify files, if it isn't mounted you can't...
[03:09] <Tru7h> Okay
[03:09] <Pelo> ferronica, sorry I was afk,  I'm guessing you just need to pick the right audio thingy in vlc, maybe the ppl in #vlc can tell you which one
[03:09] <Tru7h> Thanks
[03:09] <Drel3> i remove him complete
[03:09] <tarnap_> those guys @ #grub gave me the correct answer :D
[03:09] <Chad> Tru7h, you can mount many types of formats too, like a windows partition
[03:09] <Chad> or a usb thumb drive
[03:09] <moo-foo> Whats a good naming standard for files on a file-server, i.e - /home/shares/music or /data/music or /data/music? I 'd like to work to a general standard while building my first file server, any thoughts?
[03:10] <Felarin> ferronica : audio output
[03:10] <Felarin> ferronica : are you using alsa? if you use alsa, you should be good.
[03:10] <ferronica> Felarin: yes alsa
[03:10] <sipior> moo-foo: no real standard, just pick the most natural structure for you
[03:11] <Felarin> ferronica : do you have any other output engines available? OSS?
[03:11] <ben_underscore> moo-foo: it depends. at my work we have a disk array and we use automounts to point to different directory structures so we might have /data/seismic or /data/petrophysics
[03:11] <ben_underscore> moo-foo: it's up to you
[03:11] <z3r0ph3wl> sipior,  nop
[03:11] <Felarin> ferronica : i googled and someone had a similar problem to yours, he fixed it by switching output plugins.
[03:11] <Chad> ben_underscore, you work for the oil industry?
[03:11] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: and the trouble started at install, or has it changed behaviour recently?
[03:11] <Chad> lol
[03:12] <ben_underscore> Chad: yep
[03:12] <ben_underscore> Chad: what about you?
[03:12] <Chad> I just got out of the army injured....
[03:12] <Chad> broke my pelvis
[03:12] <ser_> server pluton.irc-hispano.org
[03:12] <ben_underscore> Chad: yow! sorry to hear it
[03:12] <moo-foo> ouch, get well soon...
[03:12] <Chad> no worries :)
[03:13] <Pelo> Chad, too much humping ?
[03:13] <ivanneto> I would like to know how many mb/s is flowing through a network interface. How can I do this?
[03:13] <Pelo> sorry I had to make the joke
[03:13] <Chad> lol
[03:13] <ben_underscore> Chad: australian?
[03:13] <Chad> too little
[03:13] <Chad> American
[03:14] <iDN> OK, I made it. Thank you all!
[03:15] <Chad> ben_underscore, how's the oil industry doing?
[03:16] <ben_underscore> Chad: really well ... oil price is right up
[03:16] <sipior> ivanneto: i don't know of a single package that does this, but you can always just do succesive timings of a file transfer. of course, there are a number of assumptions implicit in that. it's can be a rapidly varying quantity at times
[03:16] <Chad> gas here is huge
[03:16] <Chad> over 3usd a gallon
[03:16] <alessandro_> ciao
[03:16] <Tinned_Tuna> heya
[03:16] <ben_underscore> Chad: same here ... we also use linux a lot for databases and file servers, but mainly red hat
[03:17] <ivanneto> sipior: OK, thanks!
[03:17] <sipior> ivanneto: or you can count packets with ethereal or the like and compare timing information
[03:17] <Chad> I used redhat 6 waaay back in the day, using that makes you love ubuntu
[03:17] <sipior> amazing there isn't a package for this; everyone seems to ask about it...
[03:17] <Tinned_Tuna> anyone here really familiar with VMWare Player? I'm trying to make an application launcher on the desktop to launch the VM that I'd like from the desktop (i.e. just double click the icon)
[03:17] <Chad> RPM's sucked hard
[03:17] <alessandro_> ma che  sta roba?
[03:18] <ferronica> Felarin: can you please give me the link
[03:18] <sipior> alessandro_: not really, no
[03:18] <ivanneto> sipior: I don't have ethereal at the machine. But I'll try through ifconfig, which gives me the number of packets. I wish there was a better way, but it seems that thre isn't.
[03:18] <Pelo> Tinned_Tuna, #vmware
[03:18] <Felarin> ferronica : i closed it =.=, lol, it's from the VLC forums.
[03:18] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: just link to the .vmx file
[03:18] <Tinned_Tuna> Pelo: Checked, no one's anwearing :(
[03:18] <Tinned_Tuna> oo wait
[03:18] <Tinned_Tuna> my tab blinked
[03:18] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: is it .vmx? i cannot remember exactly
[03:19] <Pelo> Tinned_Tuna, you need patience,  not everychannel is as well attended as #ubuntu
[03:19] <malaopotk> de ke se parla?
[03:20] <sipior> !it > malaopotk
[03:20] <Pelo> !it | malaopotk
[03:20] <ubotu> malaopotk: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:20] <zaggynl> Anyone knows a tool to show network usage (download/upload in kb) for the command line?
[03:20] <Chad-Laptop> weee
[03:20] <Chad-Laptop> it works
[03:20] <sipior> zaggynl: /sbin/ifconfig
[03:20] <Tinned_Tuna> ben_underscore: yes it is, but if I double click mine, it just launches Gedit to poke the config file :/
[03:21] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: is it the other one? i used to use that, but don't have vmware installed at the moment
[03:21] <Tinned_Tuna> the vmdk? I think they're virtual machine disk files
[03:21] <Tinned_Tuna> and when you launch the player via the menus and navigate to it, it's the VMX you select to open
[03:22] <RabidWeezle> looks like nickserv already had a chad claimed...
[03:22] <RabidWeezle> :/
[03:22] <kore2> hi, can someone help me to setup my wired connection, if I type ifconfig I get eth0 lo and wifi0-00
[03:22] <Tinned_Tuna> ahh
[03:22] <Felarin> kore2 : eth0 is your LAN card.
[03:22] <RabidWeezle> kore2, I'm chad, I'll help you now since my pc is all done...
[03:22] <zaggynl> sipior, isn't that only for configuring NICs?
[03:22] <kore2> Felarin: and how can I use only eth0 and lo?
[03:23] <Tinned_Tuna> on the right click > Properties, I could change it to VMWare Player as the default, rather than gedit
[03:23] <sipior> zaggynl: no, it shows interface information as well
[03:23] <Felarin> kore2 : you've got 1 NIC right?
[03:23] <RabidWeezle> ok, jump back to your network settings kore2, eth0 is your ethernet
[03:23] <sipior> zaggynl: look for "TX packets" and "RX packets"
[03:23] <zaggynl> sipior, okay, cool :D
[03:23] <Pelo>  sudo pkill humidity
[03:23] <Felarin> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[03:23] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: can't you right click on the vmx and select "open with other application" and then select vmware?
[03:23] <Felarin> you can then edit the properties of your eth0
[03:23] <Felarin> or you can use ifconfig directly from the CLI
[03:23] <kore2> Felarin: I've got in network setting: wireless connection, wired connection and modem connection
[03:24] <Felarin> yeah but you need help with your wired connection yea?
[03:24] <Felarin> so modify eth0, that's the one you need.
[03:24] <kore2> Felarin: exactly
[03:24] <kore2> Felarin: how?
[03:24] <Tinned_Tuna> ben_underscore: that was my problem, the default app was wrong, I've changed it now :)
[03:24] <Felarin> RabidWeezle : what for?
[03:24] <Felarin> kore2 : i just told you
[03:24] <hyuma> guys sorry
[03:24] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: great!
[03:24] <hyuma> how can I check my ubuntu version?
[03:24] <RabidWeezle> lol
[03:24] <Felarin> in the first place, when you type ifconfig, do you get an ip address result?
[03:24] <hyuma> there is a command?
[03:24] <RabidWeezle> I donno
[03:24] <Felarin> /etc/lsb-release
[03:25] <Felarin> cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:25] <Felarin> that way, you chech your ubuntu version
[03:25] <Felarin> check*
[03:25] <burepe> I have been trying to fix this "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" problem for about a month after upgrading to fiesty. I tried to boot from the old kernel (2.6.17-10) and I get this error "WARNING: bad format on line 7 of /etc/fstab" Any suggestions on how to fix this and make the old kernel boot?
[03:25] <hyuma> you funny Felarin
[03:25] <hyuma> thank you
[03:25] <hyuma> :)
[03:25] <Felarin> ??
[03:25] <hyuma> very kindly guy
[03:25] <Felarin> why am i funny?
[03:25] <hyuma> sorry my english no good
[03:25] <Felarin> oh.. you're welcome~
[03:25] <kore2> Felarin: ok, wait a sec
[03:26] <hyuma> to update my breezy to edgy
[03:26] <Felarin> kore2 : okay
[03:26] <hyuma> needs only change names on repo right?
[03:26] <mangojambo> hi ... it is bad!!! My USB multicard reader just mount my SD card when it wants to do!!!
[03:26] <mangojambo> sometimes work, sometimes not!!
[03:27] <Felarin> mangojambo : if you have trouble mounting, mount yourself, sudo mount -t vfat /media/usbblahblaHBLAH /mountpoint.
[03:27] <Pelo> hyuma,  you cannot update from breezy to edgy,  you can only update to the next release,   you are better off downloading the version you want and makkiing a clean install
[03:27] <sipior> burepe: what is this job control issue? this doesn't prevent booting into feisty i assume?
[03:27] <burepe> sipior it does
[03:27] <Felarin> mangojambo : if it's a device permanently plugged in, you can let it automount via the fstab file
[03:27] <RabidWeezle> this runs sooo much smoother than that win2k installation
[03:27] <sipior> burepe: and that's the only error? how far does it get in booting?
[03:28] <hyuma> Pelo thank you, I'm with ibook G4, so is better download another powerPC cd?
[03:28] <sipior> actually, my one huge complaint about ubuntu is that it is so awkward to go from splashscreen to useful boot information
[03:28] <mangojambo> Felarin: but that is the problem ... I dont know what is this usb device !!
[03:28] <burepe> sipior I can't boot into the system after upgrade. It doesn't boot at all. It seem that this problem is so common but caused by uncountable reasons
[03:28] <Felarin> it's not
[03:28] <Felarin> just edit boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:28] <Felarin> and remove the splash option from the bootlines
[03:28] <Pelo> hyuma,  that would be best,  go straight ot feisty you'll like it
[03:28] <sipior> Felarin: that's what i mean by "awkward"
[03:29] <sipior> Felarin: when a system is crapping on boot, that's an annoying thing t bother with
[03:29] <Felarin> mangojambo : cat /dev/bus/usb/devices
[03:29] <thirdy> what's the winamp for ubuntu?
[03:29] <Felarin> sipior : i think they didn't wanna scare new users with the boot fo
[03:29] <Felarin> info
[03:30] <Felarin> for experienced users, it's just a one time config thing, for new users, they wouldn't freak out from a splash screen
[03:30] <goban> whats a fast dvd ripping program?
[03:30] <Felarin> thirdy : xmms player
[03:30] <Daverocks> thirdy: amarok, rhythmbox, exaile, banshee, and more. choose one :P
[03:30] <sipior> Felarin: right, and other distros used to have an option of "hit F1 for startup info" or the like
[03:30] <Pelo> thirdy, beep music player is the one most similar looking
[03:30] <ben_underscore> thirdy: totem or xmms
[03:30] <Daverocks> thirdy: actually Felarin is more correct, xmms is like a winamp clone
[03:30] <hyuma> Pelo,  ok thank you I will donwload feisty, unfortunately I've recevied PC versione of feisty :(
[03:30] <Felarin> thirdy : xmms is a total winamp lookalike.
[03:30] <Felarin> thirdy : you'd feel right @ home with it
[03:30] <CyD> goban, k3b :)
[03:31] <kore2> my eth0 is not set correctly, i've got another inet addr
[03:31] <thirdy> I'm a total ubuntu newbie
[03:31] <sipior> burepe: and Dr Google turned up nothing? it's an unusual error. did the problem start immediately after upgrading to Feisty?
[03:31] <ben_underscore> thirdy: we all were once!
[03:31] <kore2> how can I modify my eth0?
[03:31] <CyD> thirdy, amarok is worth a try as well. it can look like winamp if you want
[03:31] <Felarin> goban : dd if=devicesource of=pathoutput
[03:31] <Pelo> hyuma, honestly, if you can download it , don'T order the cd from canonical,  you'Re just costing them money for no good reason
[03:31] <Felarin> BEST DVD ripper EVER
[03:31] <Felarin> command line
[03:31] <Felarin> nothing beats it
[03:31] <hyuma> no no
[03:31] <hyuma> I've received ubuntu 7.04 for free
[03:31] <st3-f> thirdy: xmms
[03:32] <Pelo> hyuma,  you got it for free,  but the ppl who sent it had to pay for it
[03:32] <mangojambo> Felarin: it is not ... it can mount 25 types of cards ... (but I just need one!!) and when I plug this usb reader  (I d tried with SD card plugged and unplugged ...) the power light on.. but not anymore the sd card ...
[03:32] <Daverocks> Felarin: yeah, problem is you need libdvdcss to SEE the block device ;)
[03:32] <hyuma> ah
[03:32] <ben_underscore> Pelo: don't harass the poor guy
[03:32] <Felarin> that isn't an issue Dave, if you know how to use the CLI, it's easy
[03:32] <burepe> sipior there are 20 or more post with hundreds of people who have the same problem on the ubunutu forums and there is no concensus on how to fix it. It is caused by upgrading. The fiesty live cd also has the problem
[03:32] <st3-f> thirdy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XMMS
[03:32] <psycho_> hola people
[03:32] <psycho_> thirdy.....everyone starts out there
[03:33] <Pelo> ben_underscore,  I am not,  I was just explaining
[03:33] <Daverocks> Felarin: easy to install libdvdcss you mean?
[03:33] <ben_underscore> Pelo: cool
[03:33] <Felarin> Daverocks : Yep
[03:33] <mangojambo> Felarin: and lsusb give me that : Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp.
[03:33] <Felarin> Daverocks : but with ubuntu, i didn't even need to
[03:33] <rever75> Hi, how can I force a removal of a package while ignoring any dependency issues.
[03:33] <Felarin> Daverocks : cause i installed some other programs, that depended on it
[03:34] <Daverocks> Felarin: yep sure
[03:34] <Felarin> Daverocks : if you use apt-get for everything, you can even download apt-on-cd for easy deployment once you do it once
[03:34] <CyD> xmms is deprecated
[03:34] <Daverocks> Felarin: i use mplayer from the CLI to rip dvds... mplayer has libdvdcss built in
[03:34] <kore2> my eth0 is not set correctly, i've got another inet addr. can someone tell me how can I modify my eth0 please?
[03:34] <Felarin> yeah i've got mplayer installed and some dvd burning apps also require it
[03:34] <rever75> what I am trying to do is remove gaim but keep everything that may have a dependency to it. Like ubuntu desktop
[03:35] <Felarin> but with brasero, which i feel is the fastest gnome burner i've ever used, the current ubuntu package has a bug
[03:35] <Daverocks> kore2: uh, hang on a sec
[03:35] <Felarin> you cant copy to ISO
[03:35] <kore2> Daverocks: ok
[03:35] <Felarin> so i use DD instead, which works for me, cause i love the speed of brasero
[03:35] <Pelo> rever75, ubuntu desktop is just a meta package you can remove it without fear
[03:35] <Felarin> it even has an icon for gnome which shows progress on the panel
[03:35] <Bitmess> Knoppix channel is dead, Anyone know where I can get a default sources.list for knoppix 5.1.1? please?
[03:35] <mangojambo> Felarin: and now it works!!! I just plugged in another usb  ...  man, that is strange!!
[03:35] <ben_underscore> Felarin: does brasero read dd images?
[03:35] <Felarin> mangojambo : yeah, it's really a mangobonger aint it
[03:36] <Felarin> yes it does ben
[03:36] <sipior> Bitmess: and the knoppix website has nothing?
[03:36] <Felarin> i use DD and then i burn it in brasero
[03:36] <Felarin> works fine
[03:36] <rever75> Pelo, well there are other packages too. is there any way to remove just gaim and nothing else. Ie tell dpkg to ignore package dependencies
[03:36] <sipior> Bitmess: i'd tell if you if i knew, but i'd just end up looking there for it :)
[03:36] <Daverocks> kore2: system -> administration -> networking
[03:36] <Bitmess> sipior,  I don't see anything about it in English.
[03:36] <Felarin> rever75
[03:36] <Felarin> use synaptic
[03:36] <Daverocks> i needed to VNC into my ubuntu box to check the GUI way of doing it :P
[03:36] <Felarin> should be fine there
[03:36] <Pelo> rever75, I don'T know sorry,  but ubuntu desktop you don'T have to worry about
[03:37] <Felarin> daverocks : the GUI way of doing what?
[03:37] <kore2> Daverocks: you mean system - admin - network, right?
[03:37] <Daverocks> Felarin: changing inet addr
[03:37] <Bitmess> sipior,  I'll keep looking. thanks
[03:37] <Daverocks> kore2: yeah
[03:37] <Felarin> i can check for you now
[03:37] <sipior> Bitmess: wiki at www.knoppix.net, have you looked there?
[03:37] <Daverocks> Felarin: i already found it, it's system -> administration -> networking
[03:37] <Felarin> System ---> Administration ---> Network
[03:37] <MiMiC> can any1 please help me install ubuntu on my tablet pc
[03:37] <Felarin> although i won't suggest using the GUI for changing
[03:37] <Felarin> it would help if you learn how to use the interfaces file or ifconfig
[03:38] <Felarin> that way, you can do it even in init1 for Debian systems
[03:38] <kore2> Daverocks: i have wired connection enabled but it doesn't work..
[03:38] <Daverocks> Felarin: but for a beginner, he just needs to get things done
[03:38] <{DB}HobbitJa> Hello, How would i go about remove the root password from /etc/shadow ?
[03:38] <Felarin> kore2 : click on properties
[03:38] <Pelo> MiMiC, if no one volunteeers any help, try the forum there might be something there
[03:38] <Felarin> kore2 : does it say DHCP and is roaming mode enabled?
[03:38] <kore2> Felarin: yes
[03:38] <Felarin> try this
[03:39] <Daverocks> kore2: is it activated...?
[03:39] <Felarin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:39] <MiMiC> i have a particular problem: the ubuntu partitioner does not recognize my partitions
[03:39] <Felarin> and try ifconfig after that
[03:39] <Felarin> see if you get an IP address
[03:39] <Bitmess> sipior,  yeah, but I could have overlooked it
[03:39] <kore2> Felarin: ok, wait a second please
[03:39] <Felarin> yeah and make sure it's activated
[03:39] <MiMiC> i have tried looking in the forums... but i did not get any help
[03:39] <Felarin> before you do that please
[03:39] <kore2> Felarin: should I enable Roaming mode?
[03:39] <Felarin> yeah
[03:39] <MrEgg964> hi all. Under Feisty, how can I install the necessary codecs to play Divx avi, mpg etc. ?
[03:40] <kore2> Felarin: ok, brb
[03:40] <ferronica> my ubuntu clock never show me right time
[03:40] <Felarin> MrEgg964 : Try using mplayer, you can also get w32 codec package for windows formats. Personally, i just install xvid + w32 codecs and i compile xine.
[03:40] <Pelo> MrEgg964, they should get installed as needed but  you can install all the gstreamer 10 from synaptic,  that should take care of most of it
[03:40] <ferronica> if i change it it will directly effect on my system it
[03:41] <st3-f> MrEgg964: try VLC.
[03:41] <Daverocks> !codecs | MrEgg964
[03:41] <Felarin> ferronica : changing it will be fine
[03:41] <ubotu> MrEgg964: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:41] <Pelo> later folks
[03:41] <Felarin> !boo | Felarin
[03:41] <mh_le> what's the package name for zlib and zlib-devel?
[03:41] <Felarin> hey.. no fair!
[03:41] <MiMiC> can any1 please help? the ubuntu partitioner does not recognize my partitions
[03:41] <Felarin> oh, i forgot the name, gimme a sec mh_le
[03:41] <sipior> mh_le: might try libz
[03:42] <Daverocks> MiMiC: any peculiar partitioning layout? using raid?
[03:42] <thirdy> FINALLY!!! I've an mp3 playing now!!!
[03:42] <Daverocks> thirdy: congrats ;)
[03:42] <{DB}HobbitJa> Anyone know how to open /etc/shadow/ ?
[03:42] <thirdy> I'm starting to like that sudo
[03:42] <Daverocks> {DB}HobbitJa: sudo?
[03:42] <thirdy> get apt
[03:42] <thirdy> haha
[03:42] <MiMiC> Daverocks: I'm not certain, but it's definitely not raid
[03:42] <{DB}HobbitJa> hmm it doesnt seem to work
[03:43] <psycho> vlc plays it all for me
[03:43] <MiMiC> Daverocks: I had problems resizing hdd using Acronis, but I was able to use PartitionMagic to create partitions
[03:43] <kore2> Felarin: i get an inet addr but its the wrong one
[03:43] <kore2> Felarin: its not getting my inet addr correctly
[03:43] <sipior> mh_le: actually, looks like zlib1g
[03:43] <Felarin> kore2 : manually specify instead of DHCP
[03:43] <{DB}HobbitJa> says its not a directory
[03:43] <verahsa> I'm having a couple of minor problems that I'm not quite sure how to fix, mostly related to grub, the console
[03:43] <Daverocks> MiMiC: what kind of partitioning layout do you have?
[03:43] <mh_le> sipior: ah thanks
[03:43] <ferronica> Felarin: what i do
[03:43] <MiMiC> Daverocks: sorry, I am not certain. How can i find out
[03:43] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: it isn't, it's the hashed password file
[03:43] <thirdy> I'm starting to like the console command
[03:44] <Daverocks> MiMiC: um, do you remember what it looked like from partitionmagic?
[03:44] <ferronica> Felarin: If i do change here it will effect my system time
[03:44] <verahsa>  console initiation and proper drivers. Anyone able to answer a couple of questions?
[03:44] <thirdy> much easier
[03:44] <Daverocks> MiMiC: like, what partitions do you have?
[03:44] <kore2> Felarin: roaming mode should be always enabled?
[03:44] <Felarin> libxv-dev'
[03:44] <Felarin> libxv-dev
[03:44] <Felarin> that should be the one
[03:44] <MiMiC> Daverocks: I have a hidden partition RECOVERY, FAT32
[03:44] <Felarin> kore2 : well i always enable it
[03:44] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: you sure you want to play with that?
[03:44] <MiMiC> I have a XP tablet edition partition, called XP, NTFS
[03:44] <MiMiC> I have a data partition, NTFS
[03:44] <{DB}HobbitJa> apparently so
[03:44] <MiMiC> I have created a partition for ubuntu, EXT3
[03:45] <Felarin> kore2 : in fact, i'm on wireless now on Ubuntu
[03:45] <{DB}HobbitJa> gimme 2 secs
[03:45] <MiMiC> and I have a SWAP partiiton
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: ok but the weird thing is that I have 3 connections there
[03:45] <Felarin> kore2 : and i use gigabit wired in the office
[03:45] <Daverocks> MiMiC: some of that must be on extended, you can't have 5 primary partitions
[03:45] <Felarin> 3 connections is right
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: wireless, wired and modem
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: oh, ok
[03:45] <Felarin> 1 loopback, 1 LAN and 1 wireless
[03:45] <MiMiC> SHARED is on extended, so is swap
[03:45] <Daverocks> MiMiC: SHARED being the NTFS data partition?
[03:45] <MiMiC> i am 99% sure that RECOVERY (HIDDEN), XP, and UBUNTU are primary partitions
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: let me try to modify the wired connection
[03:46] <MiMiC> Daverocks: yes
[03:46] <Daverocks> MiMiC: so it's not that complicated o_O
[03:46] <Felarin> kore2 : okay, you should also check if the router assigning your DHCP address is functioning properly
[03:46] <Felarin> kore2 : also make sure that your LAN cable is fine
[03:46] <Felarin> kore2 : these things also prevent proper IP address obtaining
[03:46] <Daverocks> MiMiC: the partitioning layout, that is
[03:46] <Daverocks> i wonder why things don't like it
[03:47] <MiMiC> Daverocks: it is, since during ubuntu installation, its partitioner does not recognize ANY partition on my HDD
[03:47] <{DB}HobbitJa> remove the root password from /etc/shadow does that sound like i need to edit shadow?
[03:47] <Felarin> try to ping the DHCP server, if you cant, try changing the LAN cable, restart the DHCP service and try again.
[03:47] <kore2> Felarin: I have one laptop and another pc. on my pc is working fine but on my laptop it doesn't work
[03:47] <Daverocks> {DB}HobbitJa: you shouldn't need to edit /etc/shadow manually
[03:47] <kore2> Felarin: anyway I dont have a router
[03:47] <Felarin> try changing the cable
[03:47] <{DB}HobbitJa> its for my western digital mybook world NAS
[03:47] <Daverocks> MiMiC: maybe one of the partitioning progs messed it up
[03:47] <Felarin> and is this your first time having this problem?
[03:47] <forester> hi! what is a plaindump?
[03:48] <kore2> Felarin: i'm changing it when i want to try if it works and yes this is my first time
[03:48] <{DB}HobbitJa> ive connected it to my pc and need to unlock some stuff to enable services like ssh telnet ftp etc
[03:48] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: and there's no, uh, login?
[03:48] <kore2> Felarin: i just bought this laptop
[03:48] <MiMiC> Daverocks: do u recommend I re-partition it using ubuntu's partiitoner or another 3rd party?
[03:48] <{DB}HobbitJa> yeah its web based but you cant do anything
[03:48] <Felarin> kore2 : network should not be a problem, it works out of the box with Ubuntu by right. What LAN card does the laptop have?
[03:48] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: no default password?
[03:48] <MrEgg965> Thanks for your advices. I installed totem-gstreamer, and now I can play mpeg :) Divx (avi) still not working, though. What am I missing ? tx
[03:48] <Felarin> do you know the make and model?
[03:48] <{DB}HobbitJa> o default password yeah possibly
[03:48] <mtha> is there a way to limit the choices of a cpu frequency scaling daemon?
[03:49] <Daverocks> MiMiC: uh, you said ubuntu's partitioner couldn't read it?
[03:49] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: manual should say something about that :)
[03:49] <Felarin> MiMiC : gparted is good.
[03:49] <kore2> Felarin: i forgot, how can I check?
[03:49] <thirdy> Nice, is that right? Heroes III in linux?
[03:49] <{DB}HobbitJa> http://websupport.wdc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5535&whichpage=1
[03:49] <Felarin> hmm.. the easiest way would be to check your catalogue? the brochure which they gave you when you bought the laptop?
[03:49] <Daverocks> gparted seems to always work for me, but it can't be perfect
[03:49] <MiMiC> Daverocks: that's correct. the ubuntu partitioner cannot see any partitions. Although I was able to mount all my drives using the live CD
[03:49] <{DB}HobbitJa> thats where i was told about it
[03:49] <sipior> thirdy: yup, bit old, but i get a kick out of it at times
[03:49] <mh_le> is there a package for GNU MP 2?
[03:49] <MiMiC> which means that it can detect them all...
[03:49] <kore2> Felarin: hold on a second
[03:50] <Daverocks> MiMiC: hm, try using gparted on the live CD
[03:50] <Daverocks> MiMiC: unmounting all the partitions before you do so of course :P
[03:50] <Felarin> MiMiC : are you on a restricted account?
[03:50] <Felarin> MiMiC : try sudo fdisk -l in the command line
[03:50] <thirdy> What's the most popular game for linux?
[03:50] <Felarin> thirdy : WoW on Cedega
[03:50] <MiMiC> Felarin: what do u mean restricted / fdisk -l showed nothing
[03:50] <MiMiC> Daverocks: gparted showed an unallocated HDD
[03:51] <Felarin> thirdy : Quake4\Enemy Territory if native
[03:51] <aabrahao> how can I configure vhosts in apache?
[03:51] <Felarin> MiMiC : Did you try sudo in front
[03:51] <MiMiC> of courese
[03:51] <Felarin> sudo fdisk -l
[03:51] <Felarin> it shows nothing?
[03:51] <Felarin> that's weird
[03:51] <MiMiC> i see an error
[03:51] <MiMiC> in terminal
[03:51] <Felarin> what error?
[03:51] <Daverocks> best graphics does not equal most fun
[03:51] <Felarin> can you post it here?
[03:51] <MiMiC> Can't have overlapping partitions.
[03:51] <kore2> Felarin: LAN (802.11B/G) but i'm not sure this is what you are looking for
[03:51] <thirdy> I have 1.1duron, 256ram, 64mbVram
[03:51] <Felarin> when you type sudo fdisk -l, you get this error?
[03:51] <sparr> provided a multitouch input device, are there any desktop or pda linux softwares that could utilize the extra input information?
[03:51] <MiMiC> Felarin: no it's when I opened gparted
[03:52] <Daverocks> thirdy: ok, don't try all the 3D games then, lol
[03:52] <klav> Hi - Looking to extract a file to /usr/share but says i don't have permission. I'm usingthe GUI to extract. how can I put it through as root?
[03:52] <Felarin> kore2 : that's the wireless
[03:52] <mangojambo> Felarin: I cant unmounting ... I mean ... I did right click in the SDcard icon on my desktop and it was unmounted.. but the sdcard light in the reader still on!!
[03:52] <Felarin> MiMic : no error or anything when you use fdisk -l?
[03:52] <MiMiC> Felarin: i tried sudo fdisk -l again, and this time it showed me all my partitions
[03:52] <RabidWeezle> there we go, remember kids, xchat gnome isn't half as good as just good ole xchat
[03:52] <AMAG> Hey, folks, I've got a FAT32-formatted firewire disk hooked up to my ubuntu machine, and even though there is ~300G of data on it, `df` shows 32KB used.  The used space value is increasing as I copy data onto it, though.  Is this normal or might it be overwriting my existing data? :)
[03:52] <Felarin> mango : you can remove it.
[03:52] <Felarin> MiMiC : cool, we're somewhere now.
[03:53] <Felarin> kore2 : is your 802.11 B/G Intel?
[03:53] <mangojambo> Felarin: there is no problem to "broke" ( "burn") my card ?
[03:53] <kore2> Felarin: yes
[03:53] <Felarin> MiMiC : try purging gparted and reinstalling it.
[03:53] <sparr> provided a multitouch input device, are there any desktop or pda linux softwares that could utilize the extra input information?
[03:53] <sparr> sorry for the repeat
[03:53] <Felarin> MiMiC : then try relaunching it.
[03:54] <Felarin> if fdisk -l is fine, something is wrong with gparted
[03:54] <Felarin> try sudo df -ah
[03:54] <verahsa> is there a way to get the splash screen to center at a resolution other than 640x480?
[03:54] <Felarin> can you see decent output?
[03:54] <sipior> AMAG: weird, but i doubt it's overwriting. still good idea to test first. any unusual mount options?
[03:54] <Daverocks> thirdy: i like soldat (with wine) and ut2004 on linux for online multiplayer, but that might be too stressful on your hardware... armagetron advanced is a great online mutiplayer game as well
[03:54] <Felarin> soldat is good stuff
[03:54] <Felarin> lol
[03:54] <Daverocks> Felarin: love it :D
[03:54] <Felarin> yeah but i'm really bad @ it
[03:54] <Felarin> i only just play WoW these days
[03:54] <Felarin> lol
[03:54] <kore2> Felarin: well, do you have any ideas?
[03:54] <MiMiC> Felarin: i tried that command, and it gave some output. What should i look for
[03:55] <kore2> Felarin: i really need this internet connection...
[03:55] <Daverocks> that's the problem with WoW, people _only_ play WoW :P
[03:55] <Omnius> how to you delete a directory?
[03:55] <Felarin> MiMic : i'm just trying to ascertain if you really have a problem. It seems that Linux can read all your partitions and only gparted has an issue. You can purge gparted and reinstall it to try.
[03:55] <Daverocks> kore2: ipw2200? ipw2915?
[03:55] <sipior> Omnius: rmdir, if it's empty
[03:55] <verahsa> Daverocks: That's not entirely true. There's a broad range of WoW gamers that play -more- than just WoW. :p
[03:55] <Felarin> kore2 : i think you should manually specify your IP\subnet
[03:55] <Daverocks> verahsa: ok ok
[03:55] <Felarin> once you manually specify
[03:55] <Daverocks> :P
[03:56] <MiMiC> Felarin: i'm using the live cd, so i do not understand what you mean by purge.
[03:56] <Felarin> restart your network /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:56] <Omnius> ah yep its not empty
[03:56] <Felarin> MiMiC : use fdisk /dev/whicheveryoursis - sda or hda and partition it with fdisk via the CLI
[03:56] <Felarin> and then proceed to install
[03:56] <Daverocks> kore2: as root, "lsmod | grep ipw"
[03:56] <verahsa> Daverocks: I play WoW, and it's probably what I play the -most-, but I also hit up Vanguard, EQ2, the godforsaken Planetside, and a few other non-mmorpgs when I get the urge. <grin>
[03:56] <Felarin> when it asks you to partition again, choose manual and choose next, should work
[03:56] <sipior> Omnius: then rm -r <directory>. but be careful with that...
[03:56] <MiMiC> Felarin: ah okay thank you, i shall try that
[03:57] <Omnius> is there a linux version of del *.*?
[03:57] <Daverocks> Omnius: that'd be rm
[03:57] <Felarin> Omnius : sudo rm -rf = ULTIMATE
[03:57] <Omnius> ok
[03:57] <sipior> Omnius: yes, rm -r *
[03:57] <Felarin> nothing beats that
[03:57] <exippy> server irc.recycled-irc.net
[03:57] <Felarin> use the -rf switch
[03:57] <Felarin> removes forcefully
[03:57] <kore2> Daverocks: i dont get nothing
[03:57] <verahsa> Omnius: sipior's suggestion of rm -rf <dir> is appropriate... but it's dangerous if you type the wrong directory or hit enter early.
[03:57] <sipior> with vengeance!
[03:57] <Felarin> and recursive too
[03:57] <p6> que lo que
[03:57] <Daverocks> -rf is more good for scripts... i prefer just using -r when at a shell
[03:58] <Omnius> ok wish me luck
[03:58] <sipior> verahsa: well, glad you think so!
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: there's your problem ;)
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: do you know exactly which intel wireless card you have?
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: oh wait, were you trying to get internet through wired?
[03:58] <Felarin> i think he's trying to use wired Dave
[03:58] <verahsa> sipior: was just thinking "You know... be careful doesn't quite cover the destructive nature of that command." hehehe
[03:58] <Felarin> and he dosen't know what model of wired card he has
[03:58] <kore2> Daverocks: yes, exactly
[03:58] <MiMiC> Omnius: try "rm -r *"
[03:58] <kore2> Daverocks: with wired
[03:58] <Felarin> kore2 : set your connection manually
[03:58] <sipior> verahsa: true enough :)
[03:58] <Felarin> specify IP and netmask
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: lspci, is it there?
[03:59] <Felarin> and then restart networking the way i told you to try
[03:59] <kore2> Daverocks: i get something
[03:59] <Daverocks> kore2: can you see your ethernet card in there?
[03:59] <Felarin> kore2 : you should have a lot there
[03:59] <Felarin> kore2 : try to find your intel wired card
[03:59] <Felarin> or some wired card
[04:00] <Felarin> could be broadcom or some other brand like realtek
[04:00] <babo> is there an app out there to put together animated gifs ?
[04:00] <Felarin> Daverocks : i figure, if he can't set manually, his card might be an unsupported one
[04:00] <Daverocks> babo: gifsicle?
[04:00] <Felarin> Daverocks : i've seen it once before, only once though, some funny brand card
[04:00] <joseph> babo... gimp has basic gif editing
[04:00] <ahmed> guys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?
[04:00] <kore2> Felarin: i have a lot with ATI Technologies but I've got something with Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL...
[04:00] <CheshireViking> !torrent
[04:00] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:00] <Felarin> ahh
[04:01] <babo> joseph: yes, but no animation properties ...
[04:01] <Felarin> kore2 : the only other time i saw the problem, was with a realtek funny make card
[04:01] <Felarin> kore2 : have you tried manually setting your IP and netmask?
[04:01] <joseph> install gap
[04:01] <Felarin> kore2 : once you do, restart your laptop
[04:01] <Felarin> and tell me if it works
[04:01] <Daverocks> babo: http://www.lcdf.org/gifsicle/
[04:01] <Felarin> if not, you might need to try going wireless
[04:01] <ahmed> guys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?
[04:01] <babo> Daverocks: k thnaks
[04:01] <kore2> Felarin: I wrote my ip address and subnet but in gateway address I dont know what to type there
[04:02] <Daverocks> !torrent | ahmed
[04:02] <ubotu> ahmed: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:02] <Felarin> gateway : same as your ISP's gateway
[04:02] <Daverocks> maybe your local LAN gateway would be better?
[04:02] <joseph> babo: gap might help
[04:02] <Felarin> oh btw kore2
[04:02] <joseph> that's all i've used
[04:02] <joseph> sry
[04:02] <Felarin> how do you check if your connection is not working?
[04:02] <Felarin> do you go to like www.google.com?
[04:03] <kore2> Daverocks: and what is that?
[04:03] <joseph> try pinging first
[04:03] <joseph> felarin
[04:03] <kore2> Felarin: yes
[04:03] <Felarin> try going to an IP address only
[04:03] <Felarin> don't go to a hostname
[04:03] <joseph> ping your dns...
[04:03] <joseph> then out
[04:03] <Felarin>  ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:03] <Daverocks> kore2: there should be an IP on your LAN which acts as the gateway... like, do you have a router?
[04:03] <kore2> Felarin: i will try next time but now I need this Gateway address and I really don't know...
[04:03] <joseph> route
[04:03] <kore2> Daverocks: i don't have a router
[04:03] <Felarin> Daverocks : he don't have
[04:03] <joseph> from the terminal
[04:03] <joseph> will show you on the second line
[04:04] <Felarin> he might just have a DNS problem joseph
[04:04] <Daverocks> kore2: ah yeah k, then your ISP's gateway
[04:04] <Felarin> brb all
[04:04] <rmd_> if i want to install a new theme on ubuntu 7.04, where do i look on gnome-look.org?
[04:04] <kore2> Daverocks: i don't know what is it...
[04:04] <Felarin> yeah kore2 : you can actually check with your ISP for their gateway address
[04:04] <rmd_> metacity?
[04:04] <Felarin> kore2 : they should know it by heart
[04:04] <Felarin> rmd : yes metacity, default theme for GNOME
[04:05] <Felarin> rmd : unless you have beryl, then look for emerald themes if you aren't pushing beryl with Metacity
[04:05] <kore2> Felarin: should I call my provider to ask him for my gateway address?
[04:05] <rmd_> Felarin, thanks loads
[04:05] <Felarin> yeah you can do that kore2
[04:05] <Felarin> rmd : you're welcome
[04:05] <kore2> Felarin: ok, i will now, just wait a minute please
[04:05] <Felarin> kore2 : before you do, can you set your wired connection back to DHCP
[04:05] <Felarin> and then ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:05] <Felarin> launch the terminal
[04:05] <Felarin> and type
[04:05] <Felarin> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:06] <Felarin> once you set back to DHCP
[04:06] <lynxz> I have a problem with my DVD-drive. When I trie to copy from it my whole system slows down even if I'm not copying to my system harddrive. Playing DVD's in it produces slow slideshow.
[04:06] <Felarin> do this in the terminal
[04:06] <Felarin> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:06] <Felarin> and then
[04:06] <Felarin> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:06] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: check that DMA is enabled (run "sudo hdparm /dev/dvd"
[04:06] <SlimeyPete> )
[04:07] <MJ_> hi sutharsan
[04:07] <kore2> Felarin: ok
[04:07] <Felarin> oh
[04:07] <Felarin> put a sudo in front of all the commands
[04:07] <Felarin> cept ping
[04:07] <Felarin> haha
[04:07] <Felarin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:07] <Felarin> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:07] <Felarin> after you set your connection back to DHCP
[04:08] <kore2> Felarin: ok, i got it
[04:08] <Felarin> cool
[04:08] <kore2> Felarin: i need to disconnect now..
[04:08] <smo> hi
[04:08] <Felarin> brb kore2 : i will check with you once i get back
[04:08] <Felarin> it's cool
[04:08] <kore2> ok
[04:08] <smo> if i have a special kernel installed but no headers availables can i create it ???
[04:09] <sipior> smo: create what?
[04:09] <alexxxprog> hi is anyone who can help me?
[04:09] <alexxxprog> I have to do a bash script
[04:09] <erUSUL> !anyone
[04:09] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:09] <smo> the headers sipior
[04:09] <alexxxprog> please who want to help me come with me in private
[04:09] <smo> im on my dedicated now and thy build their own kernel but no headers available...;
[04:10] <erUSUL> !pm | alexxxprog
[04:10] <ubotu> alexxxprog: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[04:10] <smo> need it to compile
[04:10] <sipior> smo: generally, you'll want to use the headers that match your C compiler
[04:10] <lynxz> SlimeyPete:  It wasn't but the playback is still jerky.
[04:10] <wols> smo: either ask the place you got the kernel form for the headers, or get a new kernel where headers are available. no othe way
[04:10] <alexxxprog> ok
[04:10] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: DMA isn't enabled? It should be
[04:10] <smo> humm ok
[04:10] <alexxxprog> Create a bash procedure createdata that creates collections (directories) that that will have to contain a random number, comprised between 300 and 600, of binary files of dimension comprised between 10 Kbytes and 30 kbytes.
[04:10] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: without DMA enabled, your drive will be very slow
[04:10] <wols> alexxxprog: nice homework
[04:10] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: to enable it, do a "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd"
[04:10] <alexxxprog> yes
[04:10] <lynxz> SlimeyPete: I just enabled it but it didn't do much.
[04:11] <erUSUL> smo: if you compiled the kernl yourself the headers are in the linux source dir afaik
[04:11] <MiMiC> Daverocks/Felarin: thank you guys for your help. I wiped out my extended partitions and linux partitions using PartitionMagic. Now ubuntu recognizes my other partitions
[04:11] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: oh right
[04:11] <Felarin> RabidWeezle : try some nice packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <Daverocks> MiMiC: cool
[04:11] <RabidWeezle> ?
[04:11] <smo> no not compiled it myself
[04:11] <alexxxprog> who can help me?
[04:11] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: not sure what's wrong, then, sorry :/
[04:11] <Felarin> MiMiC : oh pqmagic... only thing is, i think linux fdisk is way faster
[04:11] <cdavis> Nautilus will not start completely, at least I cannot see all of my desktop icons, and I have no idea where to start to look.
[04:11] <Felarin> MiMiC : but whatever works is good too.
[04:11] <lynxz> SlimeyPete: Looks like it reset it self though
[04:12] <MiMiC> Felarin: I simply wiped the partitions out. I'm using ubuntu installer to create my new partitions
[04:12] <sipior> alexxxprog: help do your homework? i'm guessing no one, to first order.
[04:12] <smo> noting in /usr/src
[04:12] <smo> damn
[04:12] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: oh. That might indicate that the Ubuntu kernel (or just Linux kernels in general) do not support your motherboard properly
[04:12] <Felarin> MiMiC : good, gparted is one of the best partition UI managers ever
[04:12] <sigp239> what's the best p2p music download app?
[04:12] <MiMiC> Felarin: thx. I will be using that for sure. Btw, I have 2 gigs RAM, should I set 2gigs or 4 gigs for SWAP?
[04:12] <Felarin> use limewire for linux
[04:12] <smo> <IP_ADDRESS>dedibox-r7-beta1  in /lib/modules so wtf
[04:13] <rmd_> how do i install these themes?  if i go to theme/install theme and choose the .gz or .bz2 file it doesn't load colors or anything
[04:13] <Felarin> 4 gig
[04:13] <Khrajin|sleep> sigp239: your local music store
[04:13] <MiMiC> k thx
[04:13] <Felarin> anything above 1 GB of RAM, double it instead of 1.5 for SWAP
[04:13] <lynxz> SlimeyPete: It used to work fine while I ran Gentoo
[04:13] <cdavis> if i hover over the desktop I get the little wait clock
[04:13] <Felarin> 2 GB = 4 GB swap
[04:13] <MiMiC> okay
[04:13] <ircleuser> hello
[04:13] <ircleuser> can anyone help me?
[04:13] <Khrajin|sleep> !ask
[04:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:13] <Felarin> rmd_ : very easy to install, no need to unzip or decompress em
[04:14] <rmd_> Felarin, but it isn't installing them correctly
[04:14] <Felarin> rmd : just go to System -- Preferences -- Themes and click on install themes
[04:14] <kore2> Felarin: i can ping when i set to dhcp and after I restart the networking i get: there is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.ping with pid 16683, killed old client process, removed pid file
[04:14] <RabidWeezle> heh, they got pearpc for linux
[04:14] <Felarin> kore2 : you can ping?
[04:14] <Felarin> launch your browser
[04:14] <Felarin> and type <IP_ADDRESS> in the address bar
[04:14] <rmd_> Felarin, it's not working correctly.  it won't change the colors of the windows.  just the decorations.
[04:15] <kore2> Felarin: i tried but it doesnt work
[04:15] <Felarin> rmd : depends on the version of the theme, some of the themes are outdated
[04:15] <CapriCorn^80> wats gdm and kdm ?
[04:15] <Felarin> you can ping
[04:15] <Felarin> but you can't go to the address?
[04:15] <Felarin> hmm..
[04:15] <Felarin> did you try <IP_ADDRESS> in the address bar of your browser?/
[04:15] <Felarin> gdm is the process name for gnome
[04:15] <Khrajin|sleep> CapriCorn^80: Gnome Desktop Manager and KDE Desktop Manager, respectively
[04:15] <Felarin> and kdm is the process name for kde
[04:15] <kore2> Felarin: yes...
[04:15] <cdavis> it seems I have a link or something that the nautilus doesn't like to deal with on my desktop because if I move all items from the /Desktop nautilus works as normal again
[04:15] <wols> CapriCorn^80: display managers
[04:16] <Felarin> can you ping www.google.com now?
[04:16] <Khrajin|sleep> CapriCorn^80: The two most common gui's for linux
[04:16] <Gabrie1> hi ^^
[04:16] <Felarin> if you can ping, nothing is wrong with your hardware
[04:16] <kore2> Felarin: now I have my cable into my pc, I have to do the change to ping..
[04:16] <CapriCorn^80> ok i have get kde using apt-get and after that i configured it with kdm i hope my sytem will not crash
[04:16] <MiMiC> Felarin: I am having trouble allocating Partitions. It seems that I cannot create 4 primary partitions and 1 extended.
[04:16] <kore2> Felarin: then I have to configure myself my eth0, right?
[04:16] <Felarin> you CANT of course
[04:17] <CapriCorn^80> coz after doing that its unpacking the softwares and i can one line Database not available
[04:17] <MiMiC> Felarin: i thought 4 primary was acceptable...
[04:17] <kore2> Felarin: and I need that Gateway address... should I call my provider to get it?
[04:17] <Gabrie1> people... i'm trying to connect using winmodem but gnome cant recognize my modem driver automaticaly... what should i do?
[04:17] <Felarin> mimic : i tried that before, i tried 3 primary and 1 extended and it works
[04:17] <grevier> jajaja
[04:17] <lasking> who know what happened at 1989.6.4 beijing china?
[04:18] <Felarin> kore2 : yeah you should, then set manual with the gateway address and try
[04:18] <kore2> Felarin: ok..
[04:18] <MiMiC> Felarin: okay thx I will do that instead (wipe my RECOVERY partition, no need :P)
[04:18] <kore2> Felarin: so there is no other way to get Gateway address, right?
[04:18] <pawitp> Mimic: An extended partition is "a kind of" primary partition
[04:18] <omnius> man took on tank
[04:18] <CapriCorn^80> is there any site which can scan n detect wireless drivers automatically for ubuntu edgy ?
[04:19] <Felarin> kore2 : yeah, your ISP should be the one to get it from, a router could possibly also get it automatically. By right, DHCP shouild get it automatically too
[04:19] <Felarin> Capricorn : Install network-manager-gnome