[00:50]  * XorA|gone is back somewhere near Shinjuku again :-D
[01:10] <dasilva333> hey guys ive tried much research still no luck, any one willing to help? im getting this error when i try to do df -h 'Stale NFS file handle'
[01:13] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# umount /dev/sdc1
[01:13] <dasilva333> umount: /dev/sdc1: not mounted
[01:13] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# mount /dev/sdc1 /media/SeagateNTFS/
[01:13] <dasilva333> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/SeagateNTFS
[01:13] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# ls /etc/mtab
[01:13] <dasilva333> ls: cannot access /etc/mtab: Stale NFS file handle
[13:00] <ogra> new images building
[14:13]  * ogra wonders about lool's change to qemu-kvm ... i thought all arm is done in qemu-linaro now
[14:15] <lool> ogra: qemu-kvm still provides some shared binaries like qemu-img and needs to be built on ARM platforms
[14:15] <ogra> ah, i thought all was migrated to linaro source
[14:16] <lool> it also provides x86 machine emulation, for all arches, and that was failing to build on arm arches without some workaround in cflags -- I made sure the workaround is applied to all ARM arches, not just arm/armel
[14:16] <ogra> yeah, then its clear
[14:20] <Wizard> yu!
[14:20] <Wizard> yo!
[14:30] <ogra> there we go http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/20110216/
[14:31]  * ogra rsyncs
[14:32] <ogra> s/r/z/
[14:32] <rsalveti> ogra: great, so this one is with unity-2d?
[14:32] <ogra> yes
[14:32] <ogra> manifest looks ok and the default session should be proper too
[14:32] <ogra> but indeed all untested
[14:33] <rsalveti> nice anyway
[14:33] <rsalveti> where is GrueMaster :-)
[14:43] <ogra> sleeping all day, as all these portlanders :P
[15:40] <GrueMaster> I'm up.  What do you slackers want?  (btw:  it is 7:40am here)
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[16:41] <ogra> GrueMaster, pfft, its 5:41pm *here* !
[16:42] <ogra> GrueMaster, unity-2d images are there, keep them and pet them, they might be unique (i will update to the latest unity-2d versions this week and the world might break)
[16:43] <prpplague> ogra: hey you, fill in the survey
[16:43] <prpplague> ogra: or else! we know where you live
[16:43] <GrueMaster> Already running on omap4.  I need to revert one system back to Maverick for comparison, but I believe it is more useful currently on maverick.
[16:43] <ogra> prpplague, uuh, then i'll better hurry !
[16:43] <GrueMaster> prpplague: Done.
[16:44] <prpplague> GrueMaster: thanks
[16:44] <ogra> GrueMaster, yeah, maverick ppa has the newer versions
[16:44] <GrueMaster> (or do I need to do it for each board?)  :P
[16:44] <ogra> i'll üpull them over this week
[16:44] <ogra> first step was to get the images ready
[16:44] <ogra> though we're missing the icon theme apparently
[16:45] <ogra> it works fine but has all the wrong default icons
[16:46] <GrueMaster> What icons?  I have no icon list to launch from.
[16:46] <GrueMaster> I have to revert to classic desktop to launch a terminal.
[16:52] <rsalveti> prpplague: done
[16:52] <prpplague> rsalveti: thanks
[16:54] <ogra> GrueMaster, bug 719861 is about the icons apparently
[16:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 719861 in gdk-pixbuf "After installation icon theme default to gnome-icon-theme and cannot be changed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719861
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[22:05] <BobJonkman> Hi all:  Is there an "apt-remove-repository" like there is an "apt-add-repository"?
[22:22] <BobJonkman> Apparently the answer is ppa-purge
[22:23] <BobJonkman> But I ended up rm'ing the file in /etc/sources.list.d


[16:01] <powersj> o/
[16:01] <ahasenack> o/
[16:03]  * powersj is happy to run the meeting again if need be, but doesn't look like many are here
[16:03] <nacc> o/
[16:03] <nacc> powersj: sorry, was running late
[16:03] <powersj> cpaelzer: around?
[16:04] <teward> *yawns*
[16:04] <powersj> ok cpaelzer can owe me ;)
[16:04] <powersj> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May  2 16:04:59 2017 UTC.  The chair is powersj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:05] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:05] <rharper> o/
[16:05] <powersj> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:05] <powersj> ACTION: rbasak, powersj, cpaelzer to draft mysql triage response page like nginx has (carried over)
[16:05] <powersj> I assume still carry over?
[16:05] <rbasak> Still outstanding :-/
[16:05] <powersj> I saw some new bugs, but nothing I wanted to add
[16:05] <powersj> ok
[16:05] <teward> Unrelated: I'm glad to see that i've set a standard for that heh.
[16:05] <powersj> :)
[16:05] <powersj> #ACTION: rbasak, powersj, cpaelzer to draft mysql triage response page like nginx has (carried over)
[16:05] <meetingology> ACTION: : rbasak, powersj, cpaelzer to draft mysql triage response page like nginx has (carried over)
[16:05] <ahasenack> where is the nginx triage page?
[16:05] <rbasak> I'm afraid it's quite far down my todo list at the moment :-/
[16:06] <powersj> ahasenack: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NGINX
[16:06] <ahasenack> thx
[16:06] <ahasenack> all caps
[16:06] <teward> or more specifically https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NGINX#BugTriage if you want to jump to that section
[16:06] <powersj> ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot
[16:06] <teward> ahasenack: it's also linked on the Bug Squad Triage Guide for some special-case handling things.
[16:06] <powersj> ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot
[16:07] <teward> ahasenack: if you have any NGINX-triage-specific questions you can toss them my way, the nginx triage rules are pretty 'normal' except for a few cases.
[16:08] <nacc> powersj: please carry
[16:08] <powersj> #ACTION: nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: : nacc to write a release notes entry on ipv6 netboot
[16:08] <rharper> #ilnk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NGINX
[16:08] <rharper> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NGINX
[16:08] <powersj> #ACTION: nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: : nacc to write a server guide entry on ipv6 netboot
[16:08] <powersj> rharper: thx
[16:08] <powersj> ACTION: rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init
[16:08] <powersj> ACTION: rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init
[16:08] <rharper> carry
[16:08] <rharper> both
[16:08] <rharper> *sigh*
[16:08] <powersj> #ACTION: rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: : rharper to write a server guide entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init
[16:08] <powersj> #ACTION: rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: : rharper to write a release notes entry on v2 yaml support in cloud-init
[16:09] <powersj> ACTION: powersj to update copy and paste commands for IRC meeting to say artful
[16:09] <powersj> done! (I think) we will find out if they all work today :)
[16:09] <rharper> ooh
[16:09] <rharper>  you can # done it
[16:09] <rharper> I think
[16:09]  * rharper has never used that
[16:09] <powersj> #done: powersj to update copy and paste commands for IRC meeting to say artful
[16:09] <powersj> hmm
[16:10] <powersj> #DONE powersj to update copy and paste commands for IRC meeting to say artful
[16:10] <nacc> heh
[16:10] <powersj> ok guess it doesn't echo it maybe
[16:10] <nacc> ISAIDDONE
[16:10] <nacc> where's dpb1 to yell something
[16:10] <powersj> ACTION: powersj to find out who owns bug tracking site, get artful link
[16:10] <powersj> this is also done :) and it is bdmurray who owns them and got me the artful link
[16:10] <powersj> #done powersj to find out who owns bug tracking site, get artful link
[16:11] <powersj> ACTION: dpb1 to talk to kirkland re: old kernels
[16:11] <powersj> I am going to mark this one done as well as I know this happened, objections?
[16:11] <ahasenack> so there was that thread
[16:11] <ahasenack> yeah
[16:11] <rharper> ack, mark it done
[16:11] <powersj> #done: dpb1 to talk to kirkland re: old kernels
[16:11] <powersj> #topic Artful Development
[16:11] <rharper> nacc: looks like you're filling in nicely with all the caps
[16:11] <powersj> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule
[16:11] <powersj> hahah
[16:11] <nacc> rharper :) trying!
[16:12] <slashd> o/ guys, I'm sprinting this week and next week so I won't attend today and next week meeting. I'll be back to normal schedule on May 16th.
[16:12] <powersj> slashd: thx for heads up
[16:12] <teward> wrt NGINX and Artful: NGINX 1.12.0 uploaded to Artful, and I'm working with Debian to ask them to put a 1.12.0 upload before they switch onto mainline as they normally do so it's a nicer merge.
[16:12] <teward> Otherwise there'll be a big diff :P
[16:12] <teward> (comprised of multiple smaller diffs >.>)
[16:12] <powersj> #info nginx 1.12.0 uploaded to artful
[16:13] <powersj> #subtopic blueprints
[16:13] <powersj> #https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-aa-server-core
[16:13] <powersj> oops...
[16:13] <powersj> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-aa-server-core
[16:14] <powersj> any updates on blueprint?
[16:14] <powersj> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:14] <powersj> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:14] <powersj> Looking good there
[16:15] <powersj> I'm going to keep moving on then
[16:15] <powersj> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (slashd)
[16:15] <powersj> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:15] <powersj> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:15] <powersj> #info slashd sprinting this week, so not present, back May 16
[16:15] <powersj> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
[16:15] <powersj> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/
[16:15] <powersj> Last week got some new jenkins test jobs for cloud-init and curtin up and running for artful and zesty proposed and got the ppc64el server ISO tests going.
[16:16] <powersj> This week need to finish getting my merge for i386 and amd64 server ISO tests in, update UTAH, and kick things off. Working on cloud-init testing of other distro packages and some unit tests.
[16:16] <powersj> #link https://code.launchpad.net/~powersj/utah/remove_cdromupgrade/+merge/323337
[16:16] <powersj> that's the merge to get rid of the exception for cdromupgrade
[16:16] <powersj> questions for me?
[16:17] <powersj> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
[16:17] <smb> Nothing I can think of to bring up (limited cycles, so for anything needing attention ping me or subscribe me to bug reports). Anything right now?
[16:17] <powersj> #info nothing at the moment, please ping smb if something needs attention
[16:17] <powersj> anything else?
[16:18] <powersj> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:18] <powersj> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/
[16:18] <powersj> I don't think I've seen anything
[16:18] <powersj> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:18] <powersj> we did bug squashing last week, so would be again next week?
[16:18] <powersj> nacc: that right?
[16:20] <ahasenack> I think it didn't happen last week
[16:20] <powersj> ah
[16:20] <powersj> I'll follow up with him
[16:20] <powersj> #topic Open Discussion
[16:20] <powersj> Anything for open discussion? otherwise I'll end this rather quiet meeting
[16:20] <teward> powersj: add an action item for me for Artful for an nginx release notes blurb to be added - lots changes between 1.10.x and 1.12.x heh.
[16:20] <nacc> powersj: yeah want to schedule it for this week
[16:20] <teward> and it would be great to have that prepped and ready to go before we reach Release in a few months.
[16:21] <powersj> #action: teward to add release notes blurb for nginx (1.10.x -> 1.12.x)
[16:21] <meetingology> ACTION: : teward to add release notes blurb for nginx (1.10.x -> 1.12.x)
[16:21] <teward> powersj: thank you kindly :)
[16:21] <powersj> #info next bug squashing day this week
[16:21] <powersj> anything else?
[16:21] <powersj> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:22] <powersj> same time, same place, and cpaelzer you owe me ;)
[16:22] <teward> an observation: isn't it nice when these meetings are swift, quick, and quiet?  :P
[16:22] <powersj> sometimes :) I do like the discussions
[16:22] <powersj> o/ thx folks
[16:22] <powersj> #endmeeting
[16:22] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May  2 16:22:36 2017 UTC.
[16:22] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-05-02-16.04.moin.txt
[16:22] <ahasenack> thx powersj
[16:22] <teward> thanks, powersj and everyone
[16:23] <teward> *disappears into the darkness again*
[16:23] <rbasak> Thanks powersj!


[09:00] <darkxst> jbicha covered under the MRE?
[09:02] <jbicha> darkxst: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/05/16/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t09:16 (until 15:16)
[09:03] <jbicha> the important part is that the SRUs were accepted
[09:03] <darkxst> I meant the kde plasma one
[09:03] <jbicha> darkxst: you don't object to us closing gnome-shell/trusty bugs, right?
[09:04] <darkxst> from a quick glance I would have queried the first one on the basis of the test case ;)
[09:04] <darkxst> so long as they are not rejecting them ;)
[09:05] <darkxst> what is the EOL for trusty? April or July?
[09:05] <jbicha> April, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2017-March/004211.html
[09:07] <darkxst> regardless we are not going to be fixing trusty bugs now
[09:07] <darkxst> so yes I am fine with closing trusty bugs
[09:09] <darkxst> technicaly gnome updates should be covered under MRE also and not need proper SRU's?
[09:10] <jbicha> I think KDE or Kubuntu has some kind of CI/automated testing that GNOME doesn't have?
[09:10] <darkxst> or did they can the MRE's in my absence
[09:10] <jbicha> but yes, Laney was arguing that GNOME used to have a micro-release exception until SRU policy was rewritten
[09:11] <darkxst> CI testing is great for build failures not general user testing
[09:11] <darkxst> autopilot never really succeeded totally in the UI testing side
[09:11] <darkxst> and its useless on gnome-shell anyway!
[09:12] <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#New_upstream_microreleases
[09:12] <jbicha> (changed in 2015)
[09:13] <darkxst> GNOME passes most of those except the last one
[09:14] <darkxst> autopkgtest coverage is minimal and only maybe a dozen packages have tests
[09:14] <darkxst> I have to pop out for dinner, will be back in a couple of hours
[09:15] <jbicha> I think most of GNOME does not really have tests?
[09:15] <darkxst> GNOME seem to be back tracking on the "installed tests" that enable autopkgtests
[09:16] <darkxst> yeh its a mixed bag when it comes to build time tests, some have very good coverage
[09:16] <darkxst> a lot have average/questionable coverage
[09:16] <darkxst> and some have minimal
[09:17] <darkxst> but certainly build time test coverage is much higher than what autopkgtests can do.
[09:17] <darkxst> anyway gtg, will be back
[09:17] <jbicha> ok, thanks
[11:34] <darkxst> jbicha, back


[17:58] <hjd> Question about when to use the tag "patch": I guess this is mainly to tag bugs which have an attachment, but I assume diffs in comments would be ok (bug 811849). What about a link to a patch (bug 690625), or a comment on the changes, ie. not a diff (bug 709901)?
[17:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 811849 in ripit "ripit 3.8.0 bug and patch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811849
[17:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 690625 in driconf "driconf: DeprecationWarning with python 2.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690625
[17:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709901 in lirc ""PATCH" to enable lirc over network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709901
[18:02] <penguin42> hjd: I'd normally use it for anything that has a patch that looks like it intends to fix it
[18:02] <penguin42> hjd: Whether it's attached, in a comment or pointed to
[18:02] <penguin42> hjd: just as an indicator that someone has found a way to fix it
[18:04] <penguin42> hjd: Although not if it's a pointer to what caused the problem
[18:08] <hjd> penguin42: Sounds reasonable.
[18:25] <Logan_> Can somebody please make Bug 1024533 public?
[18:31]  * penguin42 looks
[18:34] <penguin42> Logan_: Done, didn't seem to be any strings visible in any of the attachments
[18:34] <Logan_> penguin42: Thanks. :)
[18:44]  * penguin42 wonders if there is someone that should be subscribed to check things like bug 228531
[18:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 228531 in gaim-themes "Includes non-free images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228531
[19:26] <penguin42> bug 235539 is fun
[19:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 235539 in acpi "Laptop boots at Midnight, by itself." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235539
[23:09] <pabelanger> Evening, I filed bug 1057813 in the wrong location, can a bug marshal move it into Ubuntu Backports for lucid?
[23:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1057813 in git-core "Lucid backport request: describe: Refresh the index when run with --dirty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057813
[23:09] <pabelanger> I've already attached the debdiff
[23:14] <micahg> pabelanger: is that a bug or a feature?
[23:15] <micahg> on the surface, looks SRUable
[23:15] <penguin42> can't you do 'also affects' and add it to Ubuntu Backports' ?
[23:16] <micahg> penguin42: that's pointless, it's either SRUable or backportable
[23:16] <micahg> and if backportable, better to backport the whole thing
[23:16] <pabelanger> micahg, Ya, it is a bug and other could benefit from it.  I can start a SRU if you like
[23:16] <penguin42> micahg: Sorry yes, I meant for his original request to move what it was against
[23:16] <micahg> pabelanger: that looks more appropriate
[23:17] <pabelanger> micahg, sure, let me do that instead
[23:18] <penguin42> hmm is the 'ecryptfs_sig' shown in the output of mount the actual key or something harmless?
[23:20] <micahg> pabelanger: thanks
[23:21] <pabelanger> micahg: No problem
[23:35] <pabelanger> micahg, are you able to target bug 1057813 for lucid?
[23:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1057813 in git-core "Lucid backport request: describe: Refresh the index when run with --dirty" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057813
[23:35] <micahg> pabelanger: sure
[23:35] <pabelanger> I'll update the title shortly
[23:35] <pabelanger> micahg, ty
[23:35] <micahg> pabelanger: is it in precise?
[23:36] <micahg> task added
[23:36] <pabelanger> micahg, no, already fixed in precise


[00:35] <ubotu> New bug: #220821 in xorg-server (main) "Mouse wheel with xephyr and ubuntu 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220821
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #220846 in xorg (main) "Gutsy to Hardy upgrade crash  Logs and Config available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220846
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #220869 in xserver-xorg-input-fpit (universe) "X crashes after installing fpit driver in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220869
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #220876 in xorg (main) "[Hardy] Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in miPointerUpdateSprite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220876
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #220887 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "Radeon M6 / fail to detected the screen on PowerBook3,3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220887
[08:23] <tjaalton> bryce_: I'll ask pitti about jockey & wacom, and if it could be possible to get something even for 8.04.1
[08:28] <bryce> tjaalton, ok
[08:28] <bryce> tjaalton: btw I finally packaged up those -ati patches for testers
[08:28] <bryce> tjaalton: looking through the bug tracker, there's a ton of bugs that look like it might fix; I'm requesting people test.
[08:30] <tjaalton> bryce: nice, the number of ati bugs has (almost) gone through the roof :)
[08:30] <bryce> yeah :-/
[08:31] <bryce> I feel kind of bad because I focused most of my hardy triaging time to intel, knowing that drivers like -ati needed attention too.  But only so many hours in the day...
[08:32] <tjaalton> yeah.. and I was being selfish about the damn nvidia blob (which I use nowadays, like all the boxes at work..)
[08:32] <bryce> but I am going to focus exclusively on -ati now for a little while and see if I can bring its bug count down too.  maybe whatever tricks I learned doing -intel will help
[08:32] <bryce> tormod seems to have been giving -ati some attention though
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #220103 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Madwifi randomly disconnects and reconnects; causes networkmanager to flood logs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220103
[08:43] <tjaalton> I'm also thinking that we shouldn't be _too_ paranoid about pushing fixes in -updates.. things tend to sit in -proposed for way too long. I hope the stable release manager would handle some of the bureaucracy there, or cut it down
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #186095 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "hardware destroyed!" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186095
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #189867 in xserver-xorg-driver-nv "enabling fastwrites and SBA" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189867
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #214683 in ubuntu "[Hardy]  Mathematica fonts look bad (dup-of: 197163)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214683
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #190356 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "Aquila L1 tablet malfunctioning" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190356
[09:31] <bryce> tjaalton: that's something I've been worried about myself
[09:32] <bryce> tjaalton: I'll follow your lead in how best to get fixes rolled out to folks, I could definitely use some advice.  In the past when I've tried doing SRU's they seem to end up stuck in limbo
[09:36] <bryce> tjaalton: for today's -ati package I would like to get extensive testing before we push patches in it.
[09:38] <tjaalton> bryce: yeah..
[09:38] <tjaalton> I could test it on the r200 I still have
[09:38] <seb128> bryce: don't try to push 15 patches in one SRU, too complex to give that good testing and figure what can create issue for who
[09:38] <bryce> seb128: I wasn't planning to
[09:39] <seb128> ok, just mentionning it in case
[09:39] <bryce> seb128: the combined package is there mainly for ease of testing.  If we find it fixes specific bugs, I want to ferret out which patch did the actual fix.
[09:39] <seb128> ok
[09:39] <bryce> presently we have a bunch of patches but don't know what bug id's they might solve.
[09:39] <seb128> there is no reason for SRU to be stucked if there is a testcase and some user can confirm the update fixes the issue
[09:45] <bryce> seb128: well there's more minutia to take care of than that... must set subscribers, bug states, etc. just so, else it gets ignored
[09:46]  * bryce wishes for a nice simple "SRU this bad boy" button
[09:46]  * bryce . o O (greasemonkey script?  hmm)
[09:56] <seb128> bryce: right, the wiki instruction were not nice, I discussed that with pitti and he simplified the page now
[09:56] <seb128> that's basically
[09:56] <seb128> - have a test case
[09:56] <seb128> - attach the debdiff, explain how you fixed the bug
[09:57] <seb128> - subscribe ubuntu-sru
[09:57] <seb128> which is not too complicated
[09:57] <bryce> yeah, now that's straightforward
[09:58] <bryce> maybe pitti has too much german in him?  ;-)
[09:58] <seb128> bryce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates, read the procedure please and let me know if you think that's clear enough
[09:59] <bryce> seb128: yeah I read that after it was updated; it's a lot clearer (still more steps than your nice process, but clearer).
[10:00] <seb128> well, those are basically the same steps but using a verbose description ;-)
[11:27] <ubotu> New bug: #220951 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "nvidia-glx-new causes unusable tty's" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220951
[11:43] <ubotu> New bug: #193791 in xserver-xorg-driver-nv "Default video playback settings are bad" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193791
[12:14] <ubotu> New bug: #204579 in xorg (main) "Ubuntu 8.04 BETA won't start X.org in Qemu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204579
[14:01] <jcristau> bryce: i adapted your fix for bug 217647 to master and just pushed it, fwiw
[14:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 217647 in ubuntu-ps3-port "Crash at startup on PS3 (hardy)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217647
[14:07] <ubotu> New bug: #217560 in ubuntu "Blue tinge in DVD playback (dup-of: 184440)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217560
[14:31] <ubotu> New bug: #221014 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Desktop displayed for approx. 30 seconds on restore from hybernate (before password prompt)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221014
[14:44] <ubotu> New bug: #219950 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Font size on login screen is too big with nvidia-glx-new" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219950
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #221022 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (main) "Wireless mouse has no horizontal movement after upgrade to hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221022
[16:48] <ubotu> New bug: #221065 in libx11 (main) "cached compose data is not available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221065
[16:56] <seb128> bryce, james_w: the xrandr capplet asking if the settings should be applied or not is buggy, not sure what it the issue but it often doesn't revert when it should
[16:57] <seb128> it's not consistant though, I can get it not working on then working after restarting the capplet in the same session
[17:33] <bryce_> jcristau: thanks
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #221092 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "switch from multi-head to single-head => Xorg takes 100% cpu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221092
[18:41] <ubotu> New bug: #221108 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "After installing nvidia-glx-new system slows down after login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221108
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #221136 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Change back ~ to just AltrGr+4 and not AltrGr+4+AltrGr+4 in Spanish keyboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221136
[20:16] <ubotu> New bug: #221143 in libxmu (main) "package libxmuu1 2:1.0.4-1 failed to install/upgrade: files list file for package `libxmuu1' is missing final newline" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221143
[21:06] <ubotu> New bug: #221158 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "[Hardy] Intel VGA controller falling back onto VESA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221158
[21:11] <ubotu> New bug: #221161 in xorg (main) "Xorg crashes with signal 11 in dualhead configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221161
[21:20] <ubotu> New bug: #221162 in ubuntu "FGLRX with compiz fusion and KVM XP crashes X11 (dup-of: 172715)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221162
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #221179 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "[Hardy] Intel VGA controller/driver not automatically detected" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221179
[22:04] <ubotu> New bug: #220786 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "video blinkink when its not full screen or the leave full screen menu appears" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220786
[22:25] <ubotu> New bug: #221188 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "[Hardy] Intel VGA controller not detected, Getting black screen instead of GDM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221188
[22:27] <ubotu> New bug: #215756 in xorg-server (main) "nvidia card cannot detect monitor and ubuntu switches to 640x480" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215756
[23:03] <ubotu> New bug: #221121 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Dialog gnome-keyboard-properties > Layout > Layout settings is not localized in German" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221121


[15:25] <kelleyk1> Howdy, everybody — I'm having an issue with unattended (preseeded) installs of vivid and was hoping someone had words of wisdom to share.
[15:26] <kelleyk1> Namely, starting with 15.04, even in a network-booted VM with only a single drive, the grub-installer phase prompts to confirm which device GRUB should be installed to.
[15:27] <kelleyk1> There's an upstream (debian) issue that was resolved by adding support for preseeding with the string "default", but it doesn't seem like that patch is in the version that vivid is using.
[15:27] <kelleyk1> Does anyone have any ideas?  It'd be very nice to be able to just take the default selection, since the installer *is* coming up with the proper value on its own.


[01:09] <AppXprt> anyone familiar with this?  Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)
[01:11] <sarnold> I've never seen that before; there's some answers on this askubuntu post, the one that feels most likely to me is the one discussing proxies https://askubuntu.com/a/918194/33812
[01:20] <Intelo> my xorg has issues, how can I check?
[01:21] <Intelo> or simply reset/reconfigure xorg?
[01:21] <sarnold> check journalctl, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:23] <Intelo> How to output last 300 lines and do | termbin.com 9999
[01:26] <Intelo> sarnold: actually best to just reset/config it
[01:28] <Intelo> its tooo hard for me to see the errors
[01:29] <Intelo> but things crash a lot here
[01:30] <sarnold> Intelo: well, Xorg almost never actually *has* a configuration these days
[01:30] <sarnold> Intelo: for most people, it autodetects everything at startup and doesn't need any config
[01:31] <sarnold> Intelo: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[01:33] <AppXprt> sarnold, yeap, firewall blocking the ubuntu repo because of blacklist on country
[01:34] <AppXprt> so a proxy would help possibly
[01:34] <AppXprt> probably
[01:34] <Intelo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  ? sarnold
[01:34] <sarnold> AppXprt: aha, or perhaps a country-specific mirror
[01:34] <AppXprt> yea possibly, error from firewall says specifically country blocked
[01:35] <AppXprt> when trying wget on repo
[01:35] <sarnold> Intelo: my guess is that won't do anything
[01:50] <eelstrebor> does network manager always have a WPA3 personal option whether or not the card is capable of wpa3 or is it getting this from the cards capabilities?
[02:13] <Betal> how I can add memtest86+ to grub (efi)? I installed memtest package, but update-grub "can't see" it, /etc/grub.d/ have a memtest config file
[02:14] <guiverc> Betal, as I understand it, the memtest86 program can't be run in EFI mode, it required an older 16/32bit mode that was incompatible which is why it doesn't appear.. disable EFI and the menu item will show (unless in uEFI mode)
[02:15] <Bashing-om> Betal: memtest for EFI is proprietary - see: http://www.memtest86.com/ <- free proprietary offering.
[02:15] <sarnold> Betal: iirc, memtest86 offers a proprietary uefi binary; memtest86+ offers a libre traditional BIOS binary
[02:16] <Betal> hmm, but can't grub boot the free (from ubuntu packages) bios binary ?
[02:16] <Betal> efi grub
[02:16] <guiverc> grub will obey license rules.. boot media in a BIOS/legacy system at it shows, boot same media in a uEFI box and it's not there
[02:18] <guiverc> memtest86 exists on lubuntu media... it'll appear if your hardware is deemed to comply  (inc. hirsute or latest daily)
[02:28] <rander2> hello
[02:28] <rander2> gparted don't manages exfat partitions ?
[02:35] <sarnold> it might not, they've been encumbered until very recently
[02:47] <mozzarella> guys I need help
[02:47] <mozzarella> my wireless mouse stops working whenever I plug in my webcam
[02:54] <sarnold> mozzarella: how is the webcam connected? how is the mouse connected?
[02:55] <mozzarella> sarnold: webcam is wired, usb, mouse is wireless, usb receiver
[02:57] <sarnold> mozzarella: do you see them with lsusb after plugging them both in?
[02:57] <sarnold> mozzarella: do they plug directly into the motherboard's ports or do they plug into hubs? powered or unpowered hubs?
[03:00] <mozzarella> sarnold: usb ports on the front of the case, they're connected to usb headers inside, no hub
[03:15] <HoLyDea7h> hello guys i want to ask why ubuntu is so laggy on all apps (browsers ,apps and all video pages even if its an ad )?. I have turned on hardware video decoding on chromium but it cant even play 480p youtube . All of this and using just 50 % of my cpu .....why does it lag and not even using resourses ...
[03:16] <HoLyDea7h> its the same with firefox and stremio and the same for online videos and local videos
[03:16] <HoLyDea7h> every notebook .....from 1990 till today can play youtube ,why linux cant ?
[03:17] <sarnold> hmm, something's funny there... I watch HD rocket launch streams on my laptop often
[03:18] <HoLyDea7h> i used windows 8.1 i got ocasional stuttering when i get in and out of fullscreen but worked perfectly otherwise ...only got on linux because i have 4 Gigs ram and wanted something lighter
[03:18] <HoLyDea7h> if it works on windows .....its not hardware issue ....imo
[03:19] <HoLyDea7h> some experts around here that know some terminal comands that could help ? I already did swapiness 20
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: graphics card driver loaded?
[03:19] <sarnold> hah, even 4k stuff.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH_Jw_TAsJY for example
[03:19] <rander2> gparted don't support exfat partitions ?
[03:20] <HoLyDea7h> How do i check Lotus ?
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: sudo lshw -C video
[03:20] <rander2> I created it from bash
[03:21] <HoLyDea7h> it provides info about the driver but clock: 33MHz seems wrong .... o.o
[03:21] <rander2> I created it from bash using : mkfs.exfat /dev/sdb1
[03:22] <rander2> 33Mhz was clock of 25 years ago
[03:22] <HoLyDea7h> why every app says its amd64 when i install it .....does that cause some compatibility issues because i run on intel
[03:22] <sarnold> intel's 64bit instruction set went nowhere
[03:23] <sarnold> amd's 64 bit instruction set won, intel implemented it when amd started eating their lunch
[03:23] <HoLyDea7h> yeah i know rander but my notebook is few years old thats why i say 33mh cant be right xD im with Asus notebook
[03:24] <HoLyDea7h> assus x550ca
[03:26] <HoLyDea7h> its super annoying when i start  720 p movie and it runs on slow mo
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> whats this magic card chipset?
[03:28] <HoLyDea7h> intel hd4000
[03:28] <HoLyDea7h> i know its weak ...but not that weak ....movies and videos was not a problem before
[03:30] <HoLyDea7h> were *
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: vlc lagging?
[03:32] <HoLyDea7h> mostly stremio i liked it back on windows because  its super customizable like lighter version of kodi
[03:32] <sarnold> hmm, I think my old laptop had an hd4000; I haven't used firefox on it to watch videos lately but it worked okay
[03:32] <HoLyDea7h> stremio firefox and chromium
[03:33] <HoLyDea7h> Clockspeed  1.8 Ghz
[03:33] <HoLyDea7h> Graphic Processor
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: maybe your system would benefit lubuntu?
[03:34] <HoLyDea7h> thats the specifications online .....way above 33 mhz :D
[03:34] <HoLyDea7h> the reason is ? Lotus
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: overall smoothness, lighter, faster
[03:35] <HoLyDea7h> yeah .....but ubuntu is lts .. i woudnt trust some lowgrade distros
[03:36] <HoLyDea7h> theres like thousands some of which even only need 512 mb ram max to run ......but i want normal computer
[03:36] <HoLyDea7h> not tree without branches because they are all cut to make some performance
[03:37] <HoLyDea7h> ykwim ?
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: what are your other specs plz?
[03:40] <HoLyDea7h> terminal command to check ?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: inxi -F
[03:40] <HoLyDea7h> cuz theres alot of different variants of this notebook
[03:40] <HoLyDea7h> thanks
[03:41] <HoLyDea7h> error 22 unsuported option
[03:41] <HoLyDea7h> i think its i3 1.6 Ghz quad core 1000 HDD 15.6 inches
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> pastebin the whole thing
[03:43] <HoLyDea7h> System:
[03:43] <HoLyDea7h>   Host: PC Kernel: 5.8.0-44-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8
[03:43] <HoLyDea7h>   Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS (Focal Fossa)
[03:43] <HoLyDea7h> Machine:
[03:43] <HoLyDea7h>   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X540SAA v: 1.0
[03:43] <HoLyDea7h>   serial: <superuser/root required>
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[03:44] <HoLyDea7h>   ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ABD100 size: 931.51 GiB
[03:44] <HoLyDea7h> Partition:
[03:44] <HoLyDea7h>   ID-1: / size: 915.40 GiB used: 11.64 GiB (1.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
[03:44] <HoLyDea7h> Sensors:
[03:44] <HoLyDea7h>   System Temperatures: cpu: 6280.4 C mobo: 60.0 C
[03:44] <HoLyDea7h>   Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
[03:45] <HoLyDea7h> !paste
[03:46] <HoLyDea7h> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/htgQfKrVzX/
[03:46] <HoLyDea7h> Did you get it ? Or am i still banned :D
[03:47] <sarnold> we got it ;)
[03:47] <HoLyDea7h> Awesome
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> yeah, celeron, intel graphics, spinner HD i would go lubuntu
[03:49] <sarnold> how heavy is cinnamon? I would have guessed it's not terrible
[03:50] <HoLyDea7h> not really ....cinamon works like a charm
[03:50] <HoLyDea7h> im not wwith celeron lotus
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> Intel Celeron N3160
[03:51] <HoLyDea7h> idk why it says that but i purchased laptop with i3 .....
[03:51] <HoLyDea7h> damn those monkeys ..........who puts celeron proccesors on modern laptops
[03:51] <HoLyDea7h> damn parts scavengers
[03:52] <sarnold> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/91831/intel-celeron-processor-n3160-2m-cache-up-to-2-24-ghz.html
[03:52] <sarnold> crazy, ark says that processor should have 2MB L2 but the output of your script says it's got 1MB
[03:54] <HoLyDea7h> i wanna cry ......imm with integrated graphics from a celeron processor ...........
[03:54] <HoLyDea7h> i spend like 600 $ for this crap
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> tweak your system HoLyDea7h
[03:54] <HoLyDea7h> How so ?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: sudo apt install preload stacer bleachbit
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> tweak unwanted startup items and systemd services
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> try lubuntu 20.04
[03:56] <HoLyDea7h> i dont have any startup programs ....i keep it clean ....i only use 1 program and 1 browser.......
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> 4GB is bit low for ubuntu desktop
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> if you have like 8GB ram and and ssd, would be different story
[03:58] <HoLyDea7h> would ssd help the video rendering ?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> every bit of tweak helps overall
[04:00] <HoLyDea7h> ik but im thinking if its worth upgrading notebook :D
[04:01] <HoLyDea7h> how much can you squeeze out of it even if i put second stick ram and ssd for 100 $ its still running on celeron
[04:01] <HoLyDea7h> which i have to disgus with Argus
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> try lubuntu/xubuntu as base HoLyDea7h
[04:03] <HoLyDea7h> Thanks alot guys...as much as i dont want to run trough this again .......i might have to
[04:03] <HoLyDea7h> is cinnamon avaible on them ?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> HoLyDea7h: you can still run other desktops ontop lubuntu base too
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> !flavours
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> or server base + i3 also possible
[04:07] <HoLyDea7h> thanks alot ,i picked xubuntu cuz its in the description "for older crap"
[04:07] <HoLyDea7h> xD
[04:08] <HoLyDea7h> cant believe for all this years i never realized its not i3 ......but celeron :D .....be careful with what u buy guys
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> celeron isnt that bad, but you need to adapt things a bit
[04:11] <HoLyDea7h> the only thing i want to adapt is online streaming tv service and youtube  i will talk to you to ask you how to make it posible if its not out of the box with xubuntu
[04:12] <HoLyDea7h> talk with you .... is what i meant XD
[04:13] <HoLyDea7h> bye guys thanks alot for the help
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> chromium browser or brave browser to boost
[04:14] <HoLyDea7h> deffinetly gona try brave first cuz it seems hardware acceleration or decoding or however they call it doesnt work on chromium
[06:28] <OnceMe> on 16.04 my apps it opens on the left corner instead of center, why? something has changed recently with the recent upgrade, how can I fix?
[06:29] <OnceMe> I cannot even move app window to some other position, as its opened behind left menu and top overlay window..
[06:31] <OnceMe> compiz helped kind of
[07:13] <Lope> "no search or nameservers found in /run/net-eth0.conf"
[07:13] <Lope> Getting this in initramfs
[07:13] <Lope> What is /run/net-eth0.conf supposed to contain?
[07:27] <Lope> What's the thing that makes libvirt klobber the iptables?
[07:28] <Lope> how can I disable libvirt from messing with iptables?
[07:45] <Lope> I did this: `sed -i 's|XKBLAYOUT="gb"|XKBLAYOUT="us"|' /etc/default/keyboard; DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration; exit` then logged in again and I've still got a british keyboard layout. Any ideas?
[07:45] <ducasse> morning folks
[07:46] <Lope> ah, looks like the pc105 doesn't exist for us layout.
[07:51] <Lope> I did a manual `dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration` went through more menus, chose US generic everything and I've still got british keyboard layout :/
[08:01] <Lope> Ah, had to restart keyboard-setup service.
[08:44] <tichun> Hi, fonts are thin and blurry compared to Android/Windows. How to copy android's behavior?
[08:46] <nop_> how do i get rid of mesa on an ubuntu 20.04 system
[08:46] <Maik> tichun: which version and is it Ubuntu or any of the other flavors?
[08:47] <nop_> i want a 100% nvidia opengl implementation. stuff keeps switching back to mesa
[08:47] <nop_> apparently removing mesa removes ubuntu-desktop, though
[08:47] <tichun> Maik: 20.04 but this issue is present in likely every distro that is out there.
[08:48] <Maik> i never experienced any blurry fonts on any version of Ubuntu or another distro to be honest.
[08:49] <tichun> They are acceptable, but if you take a screenshot and send it to someone it looks blurry right away, esp. if you can compare it with a screenshot from android/windows.
[08:49] <Maik> i took a screenhot a while ago, nothing wrong there imo
[08:51] <tichun> If you have a chance of using Flutter to create a sample program, try compiling it for android and running it inside bundled emulator, or running it natively on Ubuntu. The same program will have much much crisper fonts on android counterpart
[08:52] <Maik> tichun: i never compiled anything, i'm just a user not a experienced dev
[08:52] <tichun> they provide a sample program so it would be an easy task, but only if you are interested
[08:53] <Maik> don't have the time for that
[08:54] <Maik> install Gnome tweaks and try to change the fonts settings there
[08:54] <bart-> is there a way to configure a touchdisplay with pen for settings
[08:54] <bart-> cause in the nromal settings i dont can change anything
[08:54] <Maik> maybe that improves something tichun
[08:54] <bart-> hi Maik
[08:54] <bart-> yeah gnome tweaks is a musst install
[08:54] <bart-> too bad its not default installed
[08:56] <Maik> tichun: also, do you ahve a nVidia card or AMD? Maybe that causes issues
[08:56] <Maik> ahve/have
[08:57] <raffaem2> will 21.04 use PipeWire?
[08:57] <Maik> raffaem2: questions and support for 21.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[08:58] <raffaem2> thank you. Who's writing?
[08:58] <raffaem2> I don't see username on the left of your message
[08:59] <raffaem2> ah should be Maik
[09:05] <Lope> where is /etc/resolve.conf supposed to be symlinked to if you're using systemd-resovled?
[09:05] <raffaem2> no it's a messy
[09:06] <raffaem2> networkmanager will be a localhost in /etc/resolv.conf and resolv it like that
[09:06] <raffaem2> I don't think it's symlinked
[09:18] <Lope> dns isn't working on my new ubuntu install, can someone please help me get it working?
[09:21] <Lope> /etc/systemd/resolved.conf contains "DNS=<IP_ADDRESS>"; /etc/resolve.conf is symlinked to /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf; /etc/resolve.conf contains "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"; I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>. `ping ubuntu.com` Name or service not known.
[09:23] <raffaem2> it should be called /etc/resolv.conf
[09:23] <Lope> raffaem2, what do you mean please?
[09:23] <raffaem2> NOT reolved.conf or resolve.conf
[09:23] <raffaem2> The name is /etc/resolv.conf
[09:23] <Lope> oh
[09:23] <raffaem2> Not /etc/resolve.conf
[09:23] <raffaem2> Not /etc/resolved.conf
[09:24] <raffaem2> Then, try use Google DNS servers
[09:24] <Lope> ah, thank god!
[09:24] <Lope> it works
[09:24] <Lope> thank you!
[09:24] <raffaem2> put "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" and new line "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:24] <raffaem2> You're welcome :) glad it was only a filename issue
[09:25] <Lope> raffaem2, can I mask systemd-resolved and delete /etc/resolv.conf and just put a text file there?
[09:25] <Lope> will ubuntu work with that?
[09:25] <raffaem2> what do you mean "mask systemd-resolved"?
[09:26] <raffaem2> do you want to manage /etc/resolv.conf by yourself instead of having systemd-resolved manage it for you?
[09:26] <Lope> yeah
[09:26] <Lope> `systemctl mask systemd-resolved`
[09:26] <raffaem2> I don't know that, I made /etc/resolv.conf immutable
[09:26] <raffaem2> chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[09:27] <raffaem2> and remove write permissions
[09:27] <raffaem2> in this way systemd-resolved will not overwrite it
[09:27] <Lope> cool, it works.
[09:27] <Lope> I think the problem is I wrote /etc/resolve.conf lolz
[09:28] <raffaem2> Glad I was of help 😃
[09:28] <Lope> :)
[09:31] <Lope> where can I find these packages? opencl-amdgpu-pro-icd opencl-orca-amdgpu-pro-icd amdgpu-pin
[11:01] <Lope> http://codepad.org/y8UaFX36 any ideas how to resolve this apt conflict? (I had no amdgpu packages installed before running this. Running Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS. Downloaded the Ubuntu 20.04.1 Driver from here https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-5600-series/amd-radeon-rx-5600-series/amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt
[11:03] <pcatinean> Hello everyone
[11:03] <pcatinean> Is it possible to do a full drive encryption with LUKS on ubuntu after installation or just not in the realm of possibility?
[11:33] <Hamidreza> Hi guys, I'm runnig following command for rsync but it doesnt work:
[11:33] <Hamidreza> sudo rsync --daemon salam.txt test@<IP_ADDRESS>::/tmp/test --config=/etc/rsyncd.conf
[11:34] <Hamidreza> cat /etc/rsyncd.conf:
[11:34] <Hamidreza> [share]
[11:34] <Hamidreza> path = /tmp/test
[11:34] <Hamidreza> #password-file=/root/secret
[11:34] <Hamidreza> secrets file = /root/secret
[11:42] <c4pt00> https://github.com/c4pt000/Docker-dogecoin-images
[11:55] <mlok> Hello, has anybody seen this error with NTP before? https://pastebin.com/raw/HXZgVisV
[11:55] <mlok> Why does SIGTERM kill the systemd service?
[12:18] <xro_> Hi, i dealing with WiFi and PSK. I'm curious about the wpa_passphrase command. As i can see it creates a hash based on the SSID and PSK. So why is it more secure to use it ? if i can steal this HASH, it is equal to stealing the PSK (i can authenticate with it). did i miss something ?
[12:21] <oerheks> "So why is it more secure to use it " who said so?
[12:22] <oerheks> wpa2-psk vs wpa-enterprise, enterprise is likely more secure
[12:24] <de-facto> where can i find logs for nfs shares as client mounted via fstab?
[12:25] <xro_> oerheks, he said so : https://carmalou.com/how-to/2017/08/16/how-to-generate-passcode-for-raspberry-pi.html
[12:26] <clarkk> In Ubuntu 20.04, from the terminal, the command "pactl set-default-source '<my source>' won't recognise the input device until I change it once in the Settings > Sound configuration. Does anyone have any ideas why?
[12:27] <oerheks> xro_,  oke, so ask him?
[12:27] <xro_> you are welcome
[12:29] <oerheks> de-facto, nfs does not have its own log, they end up in /var/log/messages ?
[12:29] <oerheks> unless you use nfswatch
[12:29] <de-facto> there is no /var/log/messages on that system and no string nfs in /var/log/syslog
[12:30] <de-facto> the mount went offline (fixable with "sudo mount -a") and i need to find out why to prevent that from happening again
[12:30] <oerheks> oh, syslog or dmesg?
[12:31] <clarkk> the device I want to change to is a bluetooth headset with a built in mic. If I change to it in Settings, and then back to the internal mic, the command works as expected. I am using the devices listed in "pactl list short sources". What could be wrong?
[12:32] <de-facto> oerheks what would i be looking for?
[12:33] <de-facto> tried grepping for "nfs"
[12:33] <JJH> Hello everybody
[12:33] <zChris_> i need libssl.so.10 (or libssl.1.0.0) and after looking around the net that seems to be openssl 1.0. Now i have openssl 1.1 installed but need to either install openssl 1.0 along side it or downgrade. I have yet found a solution on the net. Anyone here that can give a hinit ?
[12:37] <JJH> I need help with the screen command i'm trying to execute this 'screen -d -m -S screenName myShell.sh;' and it's working fine but when i want to execute the exact same shell from a parent directory it's not working. I tried using this shell current_dir=$PWD;cd /home/myusr/myfolder/;screen -d -m -S screenName myScript.sh;cd $current_dir; but when
[12:37] <JJH> doing screen -list nothing show up and i've got no errors.
[12:39] <JJH> I tried 'screen -d -m -S screenName /home/myusr/myfolder/myShell.sh' and it's not working either from the parent directory
[12:39] <TheBigK> try nondetatched...
[12:40] <TheBigK> and look whats going wrong
[12:40] <TheBigK> i doubt its a problem of the detaching of the screen
[12:40] <zChris_> why not use absolute path when invoking myShell.sh ?
[12:41] <TheBigK> debugging shell scripts always useful with -x
[12:41] <zChris_> ah saw that you tried it already
[12:42] <JJH> ok just tried without detaching and screen instant terminated
[12:42] <TheBigK> then try set -x in ur script
[12:42] <TheBigK> that might give u a hint
[12:44] <JJH> I'm kind of new to linux where do I need to use the -x? is it to try my script?
[12:44] <JJH> start*
[12:44] <TheBigK> set -x in the script
[12:45] <TheBigK> or u say /bin/bash -x
[12:45] <TheBigK> in the first line
[12:45] <JJH> okok
[12:45] <TheBigK> #!/bin/bash -x obviously :D
[12:45] <DarkUranium> Hi. I have a strange problem with netcat. I'm trying `date | netcat -vu $IP $PORT` on one end, and `netcat -ul <IP_ADDRESS> $PORT` on the other. And one of two things happens:
[12:46] <DarkUranium> (first, sender-side)
[12:46] <DarkUranium> 1) No output whatsoever, seems to exit as normal; or
[12:46] <DarkUranium> 2) I get a "Connection to <IP> <PORT> port succeeded!" ... and then the program won't exit, it's just stuck there, despite the EOF.
[12:46] <JJH> When i use -x it's working x)
[12:47] <TheBigK> wait... what?
[12:47] <JJH> yes exactly
[12:47] <JJH> i got everything happening in the newly created screen
[12:47] <TheBigK> and u remove the x and it doesnt work anymore?
[12:47] <JJH> lemme check
[12:47] <DarkUranium> Correction: "Connection to <IP> <PORT> port [udp/*] succeeded!"
[12:48] <DarkUranium> On the receiving end, I'll get 1 message (not necessarily at first try, but that's to be expected with UDP) --- and never another message ever again. Any ideas as to what's going on?
[12:49] <DarkUranium> On a related note, how am I even getting "Connection succeeded" with UDP?
[12:51] <de-facto> is there any way to get some feedback from NFS about why client mounts via /etc/fstab failed or is there simply no way to get logs about that?
[12:51] <TheBigK> mount -v ?
[12:52] <TheBigK> or u wanna debug why its not mounted at boot
[12:52] <JJH> nvm it was working cause i was in the folder where the script is
[12:52] <TheBigK> any closer to the why? or didnt help
[12:53] <JJH> so with the -x i still got screen is terminating
[12:53] <TheBigK> no output?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:53] <JJH> nope nothing at all
[12:53] <zChris_> JJH, what does your script do ?
[12:53] <TheBigK> that sounds like ur script isnt run.. casue every line should be an output... pretty much
[12:55] <JJH> my script is starting a server I'll try to use only absolute path and check if it fix
[12:56] <TheBigK> what type of server... game server?
[12:56] <JJH> yes steam dedicated
[12:57] <TheBigK> i remember those times... in good old CS days :D
[12:57] <clarkk> I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 on a laptop which has a hardware issue with the internal mic, which is the reason I want to use my bluetooth headset that has a mic. I want to select the headset mic from a script using pactl.  However, the command "pactl set-default-source '<my headset source>' won't recognise the headset as an input device until I change to it, just once, in Ubuntu's Settings > Sound configuration app to the headset mic. Then, if I change
[12:57] <clarkk> it back to the internal mic, pactl recognises the headset source device, and works as expected.
[12:57] <clarkk> I've noticed that when I switch the headset on for the first time, I see this device listed in sources:
[12:57] <clarkk> 31      bluez_sink.EB_06_EF_7F_BA_57.a2dp_sink.monitor  module-bluez5-device.c  s16le 2ch 44100Hz       SUSPENDED
[12:57] <clarkk> 33      bluez_source.EB_06_EF_7F_BA_57.headset_head_unit        module-bluez5-device.c  s16le 1ch 8000HzIDLE
[12:57] <clarkk> Once  this second device, bluez_source.EB_06_EF_7F_BA_57.headset_head_unit, is shown by pactl, pactl works as expected
[12:59] <clarkk> (when I switch to the headset mic in the OS settings, I see the second device name in pactl)
[13:02] <JJH> Ok so it seems to work with absolute path in my script but i still don't get  why this is not working with relative path
[13:02] <JJH> current_dir=$PWD;
[13:02] <JJH> cd /home/usr/directory/;
[13:02] <JJH> screen -d -m -S screenName myShell.sh;
[13:02] <JJH> cd $current_dir;
[13:02] <oerheks> !paste
[13:02] <JJH> oops sorry ^^
[13:04] <JJH> i'm trying to make a stop=>Backup=>update=>restart serv with some bash. I was doing it with systemctl and it was working fine but server got huge lag when i start it with systemctl and is way smoother when i start it in a screen
[13:06] <zChris_> JJH, in your script. echo out where it is after the cd. perhaps its not working ?
[13:10] <JJH> yeah i'll need to debug it sadly my lunch break is over thanks alot for the help:)  and maybe see you soon
[13:18] <oerheks> wobbly windows?
[13:20] <TheBigK> oerheks: are great? :)
[14:11] <imrjd> a deb package for spotify not avaialbe for ubuntu????
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> snap
[14:11] <leftyfb> imrjd: correct
[14:12] <imrjd> not deb package
[14:12] <imrjd> No
[14:12] <imrjd> i cannot install from the repo??
[14:12] <imrjd> ppa\
[14:13] <leftyfb> imrjd: sudo snap install spotify
[14:13] <imrjd> i am trying to avoid snap package thats why
[14:13] <imrjd> it take ages for a snap package to initialze
[14:13] <leftyfb> imrjd: ok, good luck
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> cant generalize that statement for every snap imrjd
[14:14] <ogra> the spotify snap take 4sec to start here for me ...
[14:14] <imrjd> the offical instructions don't work any more thats why
[14:14] <ogra> not sure what your acceptable threshold is though ... but that doesnt seem very extensive
[14:14] <imrjd> so snap package is it
[14:14] <imrjd> well then
[14:15] <ogra> ... on the very first start after install the package copies some stuff around, that might be slower ... but once installed it should not be slow to start
[14:15] <leftyfb> imrjd: https://www.spotify.com/us/download/linux/
[14:16] <imrjd> the last part of install apt install spotify client returns a error
[14:16] <imrjd> so i assume we won't be seeing any further packages? in deb format?
[14:17] <leftyfb> imrjd: that is a support question for Spotify. Nothing to do with Ubuntu
[14:17] <imrjd> let me ask them gentleman
[14:19] <imrjd> thank you
[14:19] <imrjd> so what else?
[14:19] <leftyfb> imrjd: mind you, I just followed those instructions on both 18.04 and 20.04 and both worked
[14:19] <imrjd> when was that? as i am on 20.04
[14:20] <imrjd> it just did install the client
[14:20] <EriC^^> imrjd: maybe pastebin the error you're getting in case someone has some insight to the issue
[14:20] <leftyfb> imrjd: just now. It worked fine for me
[14:20] <imrjd> before i was trying to install and it was throwing me a error
[14:23] <oerheks> one could only file a bugreport, if you have removed and reinstalled again
[14:24] <oerheks> * with the maintainer, as it is a closed binairy blob
[14:26] <imrjd> its fine now for some reason the deb package was installed successfuly
[14:33] <kiwi18> Hi, I have a usb hdd that gets mounted in /media/kiwi/4tb, owned by kiwi. If I unplug it, that dir disappears. It’s not in /etc/fstab and I was wondering how is it working now…
[14:35] <oerheks> the /media/ folder does that, temporary folder for a removable device
[14:35] <oerheks> fstab, one uses /mnt/
[14:36] <oerheks> !mount
[14:37] <leftyfb> kiwi18: also, please make sure you are unmounting(ejecting) the drive before unplugging it or you can lose data
[14:37] <kiwi18> yes, of course. I meant after a umount
[14:37] <kiwi18> I have another drive though, it gets mounted in /media/kiwi/5tb, but it’s owned by root by default
[14:37] <kiwi18> can I simply chown it?
[14:38] <oerheks> kiwi18, what is the filesystem on that 4t and 5t ?
[14:39] <kiwi18> ext4 for both
[14:40] <kiwi18> no wait, 5tb is “Microsoft basic data” but I was pretty sure I formatted it. let’s go again
[14:40] <oerheks> carefull with chown, i have no idea who/what owns the data
[14:40] <kiwi18> it’s a newly formatted drive so I have no data to lose
[14:42] <kiwi18>  /dev/sdc1 contains a ext4 file system labelled '5tb' - weird, fdisk says “Microsoft basic data”
[14:43] <pcatinean> Is it possible to do a full drive encryption with LUKS on ubuntu after installation?
[14:43] <oerheks> pcatinean, no.
[14:43] <pcatinean> at least it's settled completely XD
[14:43] <pcatinean> So my only option would be to backup data, format and then set this up from the start (looks to be a manual process)
[14:46] <nunya> I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 with Cinnamon 4.4.8 16GB RAM, 2.5 Ghz processor, Intel© Core™ i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz × 2 I like to open video games like Armagetronad and play music with Qmmp at the same time. How much swap memory should I use? sudo cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness return 60
[14:47] <oerheks> nunya, 'swapon' would show current swap
[14:47] <oerheks> swapfile, or partition, and size.
[14:47] <oerheks> i think you should let it be, 2gb is enough, and does not advance more sound channels
[14:50] <nunya> oerheks: result of swapon /swapfile file   4G   0B   -2
[14:51] <nunya> oerheks: Thanks!
[14:51] <oerheks> have fun!
[15:09] <kiwi18> @oerheks chown worked :) now, this is a 5tb drive, I know I won’t ever get 5TB, but 4.3TB seems a bit too little, is that right?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> kiwi18, http://www.endmemo.com/data/diskcapacity.php
[15:29] <kiwi18> @BluesKaj thanks, but I’m also seeing there’s reserved space for root. Trying to reclaim that now
[15:32] <imi> hi. now my ubuntu does a proper(?) shutdown when the battery level is low. how do I make it go into standby/sleep/hibernation instead?
[16:15] <kevr> imi: and how are you having it shutdown when the battery is low?
[16:15] <kevr> is this a logind related config?
[16:16] <imi> Kevin: I don't know how it is done. somehow it manages to do it. maybe systemd have a rule for this? I don't know
[16:16] <kevr> it just works that way out of the box for you?
[16:18] <kevr> (you didn't have to configure anything?)
[16:24] <ioria> imi, why don't you check the Power settings ?
[16:24] <imi> so there's an "energy policy" in settings it doesn't have anything that might set that
[16:25] <imi> where else should I check?
[16:25] <ioria> imi, gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power critical-battery-action
[16:26] <imi> it says 'suspend'
[16:26] <imi> is there a gui fir this gsettings?
[16:28] <ioria> imi, sure,  'Settings' (gnome-control-center)
[16:29] <imi> ok that gnome control center is the stuff that has the "energy policy" without any setting for what to do if the battery is low
[16:30] <imi> I meant something like regedit though
[16:31] <ioria> imi, in alternative, check the /etc/UPower/UPower.conf file
[16:33] <imi> CriticalPowerAction=HybridSleep
[16:33] <imi> # If HybridSleep isn't available, Hibernate will be used If Hibernate isn't available, PowerOff will be used
[16:34] <imi> so maybe I don't have neither HybridSleep nor Hibernate. is that possible?
[16:47] <ioria> imi, weel, do you have a swap file/partition ?
[16:50] <raffaem2> @pcatinean: it is possible to format a drive using LUKS
[16:50] <raffaem2> but if you format the drive in which the system resides, you will lose the system
[16:51] <pcatinean> Well I guess I have no choice then, I can backup my stuff and do a full whipe. I came off a a fresh install just 2 weeks ago so not that much added
[16:51] <pcatinean> I also have another system that I can do a fresh whipe without issues to test
[16:51] <pcatinean> Do you have a reference on an article on how to do this with ubuntu?
[16:55] <raffaem2> on how to do what? a fresh install? or formatting a drive with LUKS?
[16:56] <raffaem2> https://www.cyberciti.biz/security/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command/
[16:56] <oerheks> full system encryption, he asked for
[16:57] <oerheks> reinstall is the shortest route indeed
[16:58] <rneese> hey guys
[16:58] <rneese>  is there a specific script for each build that can be reviewed
[16:58] <raffaem2> for a full disk encryption on the drive in which Ubuntu will be installed, just select the checkbox in the installation wizard
[16:58] <raffaem2> notice however that the /boot partition will not be encrypted
[16:59] <raffaem2> you can encrypt that too manually but it requires quite an effort
[16:59] <raffaem2> (I don't know exactly why the installation wizard is not encrypting it?)
[17:00] <oerheks> raffaem2, read his question again, a long while ago .. encryption AFTER install.
[17:00] <oerheks> really..
[17:00] <raffaem2> He wrote "Is it possible to do a full drive encryption with LUKS on ubuntu after installation or just not in the realm of possibility?"
[17:00] <raffaem2> encryption of what?
[17:01] <raffaem2> if it's /, no, you have to reinstall
[17:01] <raffaem2> if it's another drive, yes
[17:01] <raffaem2> you can encrypt an external SSD too
[17:01] <oerheks> full drive encryption  .. system and userspace
[17:02] <rneese> https://www.google.com/search?q=ububtu+post+install+encryption&oq=ububtu+post+install+encryption&aqs=chrome..69i57.10902j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[17:02] <rneese> start reading here
[17:04] <oerheks> too many steps, to much uncertainty, reinstall is the fastest and secure way.
[17:04] <oerheks> and 'google read this' is not an answer
[17:05] <oerheks> rneese,  oh, your previous q, all software build have the buildscript on launchpad
[17:05] <rneese> ok
[17:15] <imi> ioria: yes, I have a swap
[17:15] <imi> ioria: however it is smaller than the used memory
[17:16] <imi> can this be a problem?
[17:25] <imi> most probably the installer chose that swap size autonatically
[18:14] <MikeRL> Is there a good channel to ask for kernel building from mainline for hirsute besides #ubuntu+1
[18:14] <MikeRL> I'm wondering if that is the correct place to ask.
[18:14] <MikeRL> Or if there's a kernel specific channel for Ubuntu.
[18:18] <MikeRL> Also, the mainline test builds have been failing for about a week and a half for some reason.
[18:19] <MikeRL> So why not try and build myself? Cannot hurt I figured. I may or may not run into the same error.
[18:21] <nemo> So. My mom's a continent away. Also covid
[18:21] <nemo> her machine was very old and seems very messed up.
[18:21] <nemo> I'm SSH'd into it
[18:22] <nemo> the /etc/apt/sources.list is xenial, but the packages seem to include old ones
[18:22] <nemo> I tried update-manager -d and got some interesting errors.
[18:22] <nemo> "An upgrade from 'xenial' to 'precise' is not supported with this tool."
[18:22] <nemo> and "ERROR:root:Bad upgrade: 'xenial' != 'oneiric'
[18:22] <hggdh> MikeRL: kernel stuff is usually dealt in #ubuntu-kernel
[18:22] <nemo> this was on attempting a partial error
[18:23] <MikeRL> hggdh, Thanks, also tried a generic kernel channel.
[18:23] <nemo> er partial upgrade.   I was wondering where the heck it is getting the idea that it should be upgrading to "precise"
[18:23] <nemo> or "oneiric"
[18:23] <nemo> where is that info kept exactly
[18:23] <nemo> maybe whole thing is too much of a mess, but was hoping I could maybe fix it all remotely
[18:24] <nemo> I should have connected to this machine at least once in past 9 years or so ☹
[18:24] <nemo> I thought she was updating it
[18:27] <ash_worksi> so I am looking at this: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/highlight
[18:27] <ash_worksi> if I wanted to install this package, I would just use `sudo apt install highlight` ?
[18:38] <repulse> What's the correct way to enable debug output for system-config-printer? Just kill the app and run it from command line like "/usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py --debug"?
[18:46] <nemo> hmmm she has a *lot* of packages set to manually installed. that cannot be right
[19:09] <ash_worksi> quit
[23:01] <malice30> Hey, I've been wondering about this scenario -  Ubuntu has a version (e.g. 18.04) and releases packages, one of them golang. Then, vulnverability in golang is discovered. Do they fix the golang package? Do they rebuild packages that were built with go? And if they do, are the old packages replaced, or do they have their release version updated?
[23:13] <monkwitdafunk> hello users of ubuntu desktop
[23:14] <monkwitdafunk> the application: SOFTWARE UPDATER, requires root passwd once shortly after installation. is that correct?
[23:14] <monkwitdafunk> then never again?
[23:14] <tomreyn> !root
[23:15] <monkwitdafunk> thank you tomreyn
[23:15] <tomreyn> maybe you mean sudo (the users' own) password?
[23:16] <tomreyn> normally, your (restricted users') password should be prompted for for all apt updates (unless cached)
[23:22] <monkwitdafunk> tomreyn, i was hoping to only type the passwd, in the terminal emulator
[23:22] <monkwitdafunk> sorry, the sudo
[23:23] <sarnold> malice30: we've not done it very often, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-1.10/+bug/1794395 may have been the first and last time..
[23:25] <monkwitdafunk> !multiboot
[23:34] <malice30> sarnold: so when you release an updated version of golang or gcc, the new version goes to the update repository for the release, and the rebuild will happen for the next one?
[23:35] <sarnold> malice30: ah, a more recent example of updating the golang packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-1.14/+bug/1914372
[23:36] <sarnold> malice30: we're unlikely to rebuild *everything* but try to find the supported subset of packages that may be affected
[23:37] <sarnold> malice30: .. and here's a case where things got ignored https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-go.crypto/+bug/1828905
[23:40] <malice30> sarnold: thanks for your answers. That's very insightful. Looking at those bugs now. I take it that when you rebuild the supported subset of possibly affected packages, you update their release version, even though the package itself hasn't changed?
[23:40] <sarnold> malice30: probably we'll just rebuild whatever is in the archive for that given release -- updates to brand new versions are troublesome
[23:43] <malice30> sarnold: Wouldn't that cause problems for users, since now there are two packages of the same version, but different binary content? Or is it handled by apt automagically?
[23:50] <sarnold> malice30: we'll bump the version numbers of our packages using these rules https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging
[23:58] <clarkk> In the last week, I've done a clean install of Ubuntu 20.04, an installed the latest Chrome from https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/.  When Chrome is running, it creates thousands of these types of messages in the syslog. Does anyone know if there's a way to fix it (apart from not to use Chrome)?
[23:58] <clarkk> chrome gnome-shell ERROR:socket_posix.cc(94)] CreatePlatformSocket() failed: Address family not supported by protocol (97)


[05:07] <Kilos> morning all
[05:09]  * Kilos testing so will be in and out
[05:36] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[05:36] <Kilos> hi mazal
[05:39] <Xethron> Hello Kilos :)
[05:39] <Xethron> Oh, I never told you, I'm back on Linux Mint :D
[05:39] <Xethron> And I'm as happy as ever!
[05:40] <Kilos> good.
[05:40] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Kilos, Xethron
[05:41] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[05:41] <Kilos> hi die_held
[05:41] <Xethron> Morning nuvolari
[05:41] <nuvolari> more die_held
[05:43] <die_held> gooowd cold morning guys!
[05:43] <Kilos> eish come on summer come on
[05:44] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[05:44] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[05:44] <bduk1> How are you Kilos
[05:45] <Kilos> cold ty and you bduk1 ?
[05:45] <Kilos> i dont like tvl winters at all
[05:46] <bduk1> No man lekker.
[05:46] <bduk1> kills all the germs and mozies
[05:47] <nuvolari> kills them or just jaag them weg?
[05:47] <nuvolari> oh hi bduk1
[05:47] <Kilos> haha
[05:48] <bduk1> more nuvolari doesn't matter they don't bother me for a while
[05:48] <Kilos> mozzies and noonoos you can splat, cold you cant
[05:48] <bduk1> dont like splatting when trying to sleep
[05:49] <Kilos> lol
[05:50] <Kilos> morning drussell
[05:51] <Kilos> Maaz, seen drubin
[05:51] <Maaz> Kilos: drubin was last seen 10 months, 29 days, 9 hours and 19 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-07-15 13:50:43 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-06-08 08:16:24 PDT
[05:51] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:52] <drussell> Kilos: heyheyhey!
[05:53] <nuvolari> we don't matter to him any more :'(
[05:53] <nuvolari> it's over oom Kilos
[05:53] <nuvolari> there's no more love in the relationship
[05:53] <Kilos> whats over nuvolari ?
[05:53] <nuvolari> heh, drubin
[05:53] <Kilos> lol
[05:54] <Kilos> drubin, ping
[05:55] <Kilos> another one getting way too scarce is our tumbleweed
[05:56] <Kilos> tumbleweed, how about a Hi guys I'm well and still in za
[06:13] <die_held> Spekko: awe ma se kind
[06:15] <nuvolari> anyone around using chromium?
[06:15] <nuvolari> I have an issue where it freezes up completely when I open up gmail
[06:15] <nuvolari> the google hangouts plugin is not responding
[06:16] <nuvolari> so I have to kill the tab to actually get anything to work
[06:16] <nuvolari> it does not happen in google chrome beta however
[06:19] <Kilos> nuvolari, ami just try opera. i prefer it to all the other browsers
[06:19] <Kilos> Maaz, google opera browser for linux
[06:19] <Maaz> Kilos: "Linux - Opera" http://www.opera.com/computer/linux :: "Opera Web Browser | Faster & safer | Download the new Internet ..." http://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www :: "Opera Web Browser | Faster & safer | Download the new Internet ..." http://www.opera.com/download/linux/ :: "Download Opera browser - Opera Software" http://www.opera.com/download ::
[06:19] <Maaz> "Former Dev Gives Gloomy Outlook On Linux Support For the Opera ..." http://linux.slashdot.…
[06:20] <Kilos> and there no upgrades every ten mins to eat data
[06:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peoples
[06:45] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[07:35] <nuvolari> I'm not the only one \o/
[07:35] <nuvolari> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=382080
[07:36] <Kilos> lol
[07:40] <Kilos> where do we find these logs please. a coupla days ago inetpro gave to lekker ping commands which i have lost fighting this new unity
[07:40] <Kilos> one was mtr something or other
[07:40] <Kilos> inetpro, fix it!
[07:41] <Kilos> pu pu pu pllllease
[07:49] <Kilos> It turns out, there are two bugs related to brightness issue in Ubuntu. One relates to Nvidia graphics card and other relates to Intel graphics card.
[07:49] <Kilos> grrrr
[07:50] <Kilos> there isnt even a setting to see or change brightness or contrast or gamma unless you fiddle in nvidia settings
[07:51] <Kilos> they say in settings-power there is a brightness slider
[07:51] <Kilos> haha
[08:02] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[08:03] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:04] <Vince-0> o/
[08:04] <superfly> hi Vince-0
[08:04] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[08:33] <Kilos> lemme try a reboot
[09:40] <Kilos> hi Spekko
[09:40] <Kilos> die_held, where is jabberwocky
[09:40] <Kilos> you overworked him?
[09:45] <die_held> Kilos: he probably over dosed on some script he was writing to conquer the world!
[10:02] <Squirm> lol
[10:14] <Kilos> haha hi Squirm
[11:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> wow, building a wooden roof is pretty heavy on the wood supply
[13:32] <Kilos> oi!
[14:29] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: is your house looking pretty yet?
[16:44] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:39] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: have you  seen the map recently?
[17:45] <Kilos> hes afk superfly
[17:45] <Kilos> maybe blew himself up
[17:47] <smile|leren> hi :D
[17:47] <Kilos> hi smile
[17:49] <smile> :D
[17:53] <Kilos> inetpro, waar is jy??
[18:10]  * ThatGraemeGuy explodes
[18:10] <Kilos> haha
[18:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> nice map
[18:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> you you find the white arrow i drew when i went exploring far away? ;-)
[18:12] <Kilos> link please im on a new install
[18:12] <Kilos> formatted /home and backup corrupt
[18:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://minetest.snyman.info/
[18:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> stop re-installing your O/S and just use your PC :P
[18:13] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: But that'd be no fun!
[18:13] <theblazehen> If things go according to plan then I'll be reinstalling for the 2nd time this month
[18:14] <theblazehen> so.. Anyone wanna buy a R9 290 GPU? hehe
[18:14] <Kilos> lol nvidia made bad things happen and launcher disappeared and top panel too
[18:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> will it make my TNT chains look more impressive in minetest?
[18:14] <theblazehen> Kilos: you got a nvidia card now? Nice :)
[18:14] <Kilos> kde is still going fine
[18:15] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: maybe? Whats your current graphics :p
[18:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> no idea, i'm not much of a hardware nerd
[18:15] <theblazehen> You CAN get it in quad 4K resolution ;)
[18:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> that i guess
[18:17] <theblazehen> Well you can get the settings in minetest all the way to max, whilst running on a 4K display if you wanted
[18:17] <theblazehen> But will be TOTALLY overkill
[18:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> hard to put a new display in a laptop
[18:18] <theblazehen> http://forum.notebookreview.com/e-gpu-external-graphics-discussion/418851-diy-egpu-experiences.html hehe
[18:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> if anyone wants to donate wood to my roof building efforts, feel free to drop some off
[18:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> and now that's enough talking about minetest
[18:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> time to PLAY some minetest
[18:19] <theblazehen> lol
[18:19] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: You try playing kerbal space program?
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> theblazehen: do you play?
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> minetest i mean
[18:20] <theblazehen> I wish :(
[18:20] <theblazehen> XDMCP is too slow, and I get max 12 FPS on netbook
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> ow
[18:20] <theblazehen> When looking at sky, minimum render distance
[18:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> still trying to figure out who built the little brick house
[18:20] <theblazehen> Currently running it all over xdmcp to a VM
[18:32] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:50] <inetpro> good evening
[18:50] <inetpro> Maaz: tell kilos I'm here as usual
[18:51] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[18:56] <superfly> hi inetpro
[19:01] <smile> see ya :p
[19:02] <smile> good night :)


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[00:59] <Guest53661> hello
 хеллоу
[03:08] <IrcsomeBot1> Local Dugger was added by: Local Dugger
 Hey
 How to upgrade to kde 5.20v?
[05:11] <Maik> @SharGen19 not. Want the latest stuff either compile it yourself, switch to KDE Neon or use a rolling release distro.
[05:16] <Maik> Keep in mind though that latest doesn't always mean it's better. It's better to have software that is a bit older and has been thoroughly tested and approved to use in a distro to asure more stability. Hence the older packages in Debian and Ubuntu releases.
[06:01] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:26]  * AlexeyMurzKorepo uploaded an image: image.png (55KiB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/ru-matrix.org/xLtvTKrcXAfzMHaaIVsRxgbW/image.png >
[07:32] <IrcsomeBot1> <Derek Slegr> did you reply to yourself?
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 lsusb
[07:43] <IrcsomeBot1> <Matt Chambers> New session file?
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[08:23] <IrcsomeBot1> أمير was added by: أمير
 Hi, I cant trun on my WIFI, there is no wifi showing at all, how to fix it ? I'm using kubuntu 18.04 LTS
[09:04] <noNameUSer000> ???
[09:05] <noNameUSer000> Anyone know if Kubuntu collects data like KDE does ?
[09:08] <eugene_> Aren't both examples the same thing?
[09:08] <noNameUSer000> Well I dnt know
[09:09] <noNameUSer000> KDE is like company almost
[09:09] <noNameUSer000> Kubuntu is community
[09:10] <noNameUSer000> I wanna know if one uses KDE desktop if it will collect your data and how
[09:10] <noNameUSer000> As they state on KDE site that they do indeed collect data
[09:10] <noNameUSer000> Who wants that .........
[09:12] <eugene_> Of course, they collect data, no matter what the organization's name is. Technical data such as bugs and crashes.  Just take another distro and the problem, if it is one at alle, is solved. If you watn a reliable distro with quite new Plasma take Manjaro. If you like soething mor stable try Kubuntu :-)
[09:38] <Bodiro> nod0n-M: Sorry, that was for another one.
[09:38] <srz> how to change theme ?
[09:38] <srz> how to change theme ?
[09:39] <Bodiro> nonameuser000: nod0n-M message was meant for you.
[09:40] <Bodiro> srz: Systemsettings/ Global Design etc
[09:41] <srz> thanks Bodiro will try
[09:51] <srz> excuse me everybody :-) !
[09:52] <srz> how can i move files from /home to another partition ?
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/1se6bd1F/file_37779.jpg
 AestheticClock
 srz: https://www.howtogeek.com/442101/how-to-move-your-linux-home-directory-to-another-hard-drive/
 srz: if you already have created the partition you can skip the first half of the guide
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:58] <Maik> @mx_tom srz is long gone. The joys of a telegram/irc bridge....
[12:00] <Maik> @SharGen19 AestheticClock... and what are you trying to say? If you read the error message from the widget in your screenshot, what does that tell you?
[12:23] <Maik> bbiab, server reboot required
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[12:49] <IrcsomeBot1> <John Yi> seems normal
 When I scroll on desktop, it move though activity, it suck, I have a laptop, when I Scroll it switch multiple times
 Can I turn that off
 (Photo, 1280x722) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/tTpf5O37/file_37784.jpg
 Just experimenting at the moment. Not available.
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[15:33] <h1pot> why can't i send several files via bluetooth in a row? i just noticed this sending some files to my phone, even selecting the files, it will just send 1 and stop. i'm on kubuntu 20.04 lts
[16:16] <user|52038> desactivar update-apt-xapi
[16:18] <user|52038> deactivate update-apt-xapi?
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/aGnKZsJr/file_37790.jpg
 how to install it?
 :(
 Click ok
 No no wait
 You are trying to install ocs url itself?
 Buddy you already have it installed I can see from the screenshot
 Just go to any theme or icon page and use the install option from now on
 @SharGen19, And when you encounter this screen click ok
 @therealriganb, yes
 Ocs url will help you install it super easily
 @SharGen19, I guess you have already installed it bro
 no  i dont think so
 i havent installed it
 is it inbuilt?
 @SharGen19, No
 @SharGen19, But if you would have not, it would have not shown up in the screenshot where it does
 Do one thing, go to a theme or icon page
 on the right click on istall
 ah wait
 Sure
 that ss i took was the ss of the website
 i havent installed it
 see my cursor its magnifying glass
 that is an image
 lo
 @SharGen19, i understood brother don't worry, I am talking about the launch application window in front, it contains the ocs url option
 ok damn
 my fault
 gotcha
 😑😑😑
 well i downloaded the zip but im unable to compile or installit
 how to install it on kubuntu?
 telling you
 follow the exact steps
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/sw3N7dHW/file_37792.jpg Here, scroll down and click on files, then download the .deb one, delete the zip you downloaded
 Just download the deb and install
 oh
 my bad there is an deb stuff
 yeah dw
 enjoy your time
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/XsE5qQnv/file_37793.jpg
 idk how to fix this
 wait
 @SharGen19, try clicking the button on top right of aesthetic clock to uninstall it, and install it again from get new widgets and try
 nope not working
 Or will have to do something like this
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/PM9TjDli/file_37794.png
[16:57] <HelplessNoob> Are the minimum hardware requirements/recommended hardware stated anywhere?
[17:00] <oerheks> sure, for 64 bit; 4 gb/ dual core .. must be easy to find @ kubuntu.com
[17:00] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
 @RikMills, Love it!
[17:51] <IrcsomeBot1> <Edwin Coval> seems very obvious
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[20:34] <phasegen> has anyone had trouble with updates today? I just updated and my graphics went to 1024X768 from 1920x1080. After a long fight I just opted to reinstall. After a fresh reinstall, full update and reboot, it says I have one package to update (nvidia driver)but will not install it due to possible unsatisfied dependencies.  linux-modules-nvidia-440-gene
[20:34] <phasegen> ric-hwe-20.04/focal-updates,focal-security 5.4.0-47.51 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.4.0-26.30+2]
[21:42] <reaga> i tried to install nvidia drivers on my fresh kubuntu install, but what happens is when i reboot the screen is just black
[21:45] <reaga> i need nvidia drivers
[21:46] <genii> !nomodeset | reaga
[21:47] <genii> reaga: Should try this first and see if it gets you past the black screen
[21:51] <reaga> ah
[22:11] <reaga> thanks for your help
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