[04:33] <elisboa> user_: if you are not in Kubuntu now, then I suggest you log in as root (sudo su) and type lspci -v and look for any ethernet device detected
[04:33] <x_link> I will install it now then.
[04:34] <chijin> x_link: it's probably installed. just run it
[04:34] <user_> elisboa: the laptop is the (LG F1-2245A9) and the hardware is the: The onboard ethernet is the: Realtek RTL8168/8111, and The onboard wifi is the: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[04:34] <RealisticDragon> x_link: the 6.10 control panel is better than the 6.06 one, but yeah i prefer plain old kde too :)
[04:34] <elisboa> so, you type lsmod and see if the module for the device wasn't really loaded
[04:34] <chijin> x_link: or do you mean kubuntu :-P
[04:34] <user_> ok i will do that, one moment
[04:34] <cntb> atronany sound at all in system ?
[04:34] <cntb> atron any sound at all in system ?
[04:34] <elisboa> user_: I had an issue with my wireless broadcom. And I know this realtek of yours, which is a gigabit one, is a pretty new hardware
[04:35] <elisboa> Maybe you should try it with edgy, instead of Dapper
[04:35] <atron> alsa and i m listening to xmms very well but i want that amarok will play sound too
[04:35] <elisboa> atron: you have to configure the amarok engine properly
[04:36] <elisboa> if it uses artsd, then set arts properly on kcontrol, to use alsa instead of oss :-)
[04:36] <atron> when i selecting xine engine in amarok i have message xine cant initialized any audio drivers
[04:36] <cruel_dog> hi all, i cant listen to mp3 with kubuntu. how can i enable that?
[04:37] <x_link> chijin: Yes I mean in Kubuntu.
[04:37] <cruel_dog> how to enable mp3 playing in kubuntu?
[04:37] <x_link> I have changed my damn keyboardf 5 times today.
[04:37] <x_link> I got 2 new ones and I really don't know which one to use
[04:37] <x_link> hehe
[04:37] <elisboa> cruel_dog: when you try to play a mp3 file from amarok, it asks if you want to install mp3 support. But if want to get it working by "hands-on", then open up a console, log in as root and type: apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libmad0
[04:37] <x_link> Damn annoying.
[04:37] <x_link> I like them all in different ways.
[04:38] <elisboa> x_link: all have different mappings?
[04:38] <x_link> elisboa: ?
[04:38] <x_link> Mappings? What is that?
[04:38] <cruel_dog> ty man
[04:38] <x_link> But I heard that Debian is faster than Kubuntu, is that true?
[04:38] <elisboa> x_link: you said you have changed your keyb
[04:38] <x_link> Yeah
[04:38] <user_> elisboa: ok so i did that, and sure enough both hardware devices are listed in there.  also the installation is 6.10
[04:38] <cruel_dog> and no, i tryes with amarok, it aint ask me the question.
[04:38] <cntb> can you aplay atron from command line ?
[04:38] <x_link> I got tired of the first one.
[04:38] <elisboa> x_link: depends on what you are comparing it.
[04:38] <cruel_dog> it just says playlist finished.
[04:38] <x_link> elisboa: Kubuntu and Debian Etch.
[04:38] <elisboa> I know of people that have a Pentium IV and use the vanilla kernel, which is a i386 one
[04:39] <atron> cntb, yep
[04:39] <x_link> I heard KDE on Debian Etch is faster than Kubuntu.
[04:39] <elisboa> Didn't install Etch yet, but wanna give a try soon
[04:39] <cntb> can you aplay  wav files (sounds) atron from command line ?
[04:39] <x_link> OKej.
[04:39] <x_link> elisboa: I use Debian Etch right now.
[04:39] <cntb> good
[04:39] <cntb> !mp3
[04:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <elisboa> cntb: yes. You should have some app that would play it. GDM, alsa, sox and other packages have such players
[04:39] <x_link> I have been using GNU/Linux for 7 months, and I have only used Debian Etch. So it's pretty hard to just change distro like that now.
[04:39] <cntb> !mp3 > atron
[04:40] <x_link> That's why I don't know if I really want to change or not.
[04:40] <atron> cntb i can play mp3 fies
[04:40] <elisboa> There is a "play" command that does it, but I can't figure it out now, on which package it is belonged to
[04:40] <cruel_dog> elisboa: there is an error, it tells packet not found
[04:40] <user_> elisboa: ok so i did that, and sure enough both hardware devices are listed in there.  also the installation is 6.10
[04:40] <elisboa> cruel_dog: Really? Oh, but which one of them I told you about?
[04:40] <cruel_dog> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libmad0
[04:40] <cruel_dog> that
[04:40] <cntb> btw elisboa know where wav samples are on kde ?
[04:41] <x_link> I will be back again when I have installed Kubuntu.
[04:41] <x_link> THanks for the info. guys!
[04:41] <elisboa> cruel_dog: See, I have given you two packages to install, which are: libxine-extracodecs and libmad0. Which one of those your apt didn't find?
[04:41] <elisboa> cruel_dog: Hey, sorry, I forgot to mention: you will have to enable universe and multiverse repositories, if you want these packages installed. Do you know how to do it?
[04:42] <atron> cntb , can we go privite
[04:42] <elisboa> cntb: try searching over /usr/share/sounds ;-)
[04:42] <atron> i,'m newbee too
[04:42] <diana> Can someone explain to me how I can get on undernet using Konversation?  Can I download and assimilate a list of servers from somewhere???
[04:42] <atron> and dont know
[04:42] <elisboa> damn, how do I execute an external shell app from inside konversation?
[04:42] <elisboa> Seems like /exec only calls preset scripts
[04:42] <cruel_dog> elisboa: nope
[04:42] <user_> elisboa: ok so i did that, and sure enough both hardware devices are listed in there.  also the installation is 6.10
[04:42] <elisboa> diana: What is undernet?
[04:43] <diana> It's one of the IRC networks, like EFnet
[04:43] <cruel_dog> elisboa: i tryed the first one, didnt work
[04:43] <elisboa> user_: Well, on the live cdyour hardware is ok, but it doesn't work when you are installing, is it right?
[04:43] <RealisticDragon> they should move the kubuntu channel over to IIP ;)
[04:43] <elisboa> cruel_dog: what did you exactly do and what did you get?
[04:44] <krillin> just love this os my pc is flying along
[04:44] <user_> elisboa: i havent tried out a live cd with it, it is a fresh install from the 6.10 cd.  and the pc i am on now is my desktop, the other is laptop
[04:44] <atron> i didnt find ansewrs in forums
[04:44] <cntb> << aplay /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav >> plays OK atron ?
[04:44] <RealisticDragon> krillin: i like sitting on flights and getting 8 hours battery life out of my laptop by running in command line mode ;)
[04:44] <cruel_dog> elisboa: now i am reading the link sent..... doesnt really help :(
[04:44] <krillin> kool
[04:45] <elisboa> user_: As far as I know, 6.10 is a live-cd and the installer, isn't it?
[04:45] <RealisticDragon> 2 batteries is all i need to get yo japan :o
[04:45] <elisboa> cruel_dog: well, you are the one trying to install mp3 support, right?
[04:45] <elisboa> sorry, I got a bit dizzy ;-P
[04:45] <cruel_dog> elisboa: yes
[04:45] <elisboa> cruel_dog: do you know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:45] <user_> elisboa: ummmmmmmm possibly.  lol, not sure, but i think you are right.  one of the later options, i installed it in text mode in order to create a dualboot
[04:45] <lloyd> crap, my cpu is sticking to my heatsink
[04:46] <cruel_dog> elisboa: nope
[04:46] <lloyd> anyone here ever had that happening?
[04:46] <user_> elisboa: which by the way in windows the hardware works fine, so its not the hardware
[04:46] <krillin> i had a hard time trying to connect thru wifi but sorted it in the end:)
[04:46] <elisboa> user_: try to use your hardware with the live before installing it, then ;-)
[04:46] <elisboa> just to see if it works :-)
[04:46] <RealisticDragon> i hear that wifi works better in feisty
[04:46] <elisboa> cruel_dog: ok. Let me explain you about repositories
[04:46] <RealisticDragon> im getting a new laptop for feisty so ill get to find out ;)
[04:46] <elisboa> RealisticDragon: even ndiswrapper?
[04:47] <elisboa> cruel_dog: can we go private?
[04:47] <RealisticDragon> elisboa: not so much, but the roaming and so in is supposed to bet better (which will work with ndiswrapper too, yes)
[04:47] <lupul> i need some help. how can i resize my partitions without loosing data? because root partition isn/t enaugh anymore
[04:47] <cruel_dog> ekisboa: you can cometo my channel, i have a registered channel
[04:47] <lloyd> the internet suggests to heat it with a hairdryer then remove it or to put it in the freezer
[04:47] <user_> elisboa: what does that solve?  it doesnt allow me to get these modules, and also, it wont have them as the cds are one in the same
[04:47] <lloyd> ;)
[04:47] <atron> cntb no
[04:47] <RealisticDragon> lupul: Take a backup!
[04:47] <cruel_dog> elisboa: you can come to my channel, i have one
[04:47] <elisboa> cruel_dog: so, where is it at?
[04:47] <cruel_dog> elisboa: freenode
[04:47] <Godet> i cant hear any sound
[04:48] <atron> cntb, Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/pop.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Mono
[04:48] <atron> but i didnt hear sound
 but i didnt hear sound
[04:48] <Godet> me too =)
[04:48] <lloyd> i assume it is dead anyway since it wouldnt boot
[04:48] <lupul> no. i mean i want to  resize the data into a smaller one and raise the space in the root partition
[04:48] <elisboa> user_: well, if the live cd works, why would't the installed version do as well? Can't figure out what is really getting wrong
[04:48] <lloyd> cpu came out with no pins bowed or anthing though the lever was still closed
[04:49] <lloyd> what a laod of crap....last intel cpu for me
[04:49] <harmental> Hobbsee: me again...shall i enable kwallet subsystem?
[04:49] <Hobbsee> harmental: yeah.  blank password works
[04:49] <user_> elisboa: no no, i have never tried tohe live cd, but im almost positive it wont work either as it is built with the same stuff as the installer
[04:49] <lupul> my kwallet has alzheimer i believe
[04:49] <Godet> i cant hear sound, somebody help me pls
[04:50] <harmental> Hobbsee: blank pass?
[04:50] <lloyd> the fun part isnt actual that the cpu sticks to the heatsink but that you cant remove it anymore without openening the ziff lever
[04:50] <nicoc> hi
[04:50] <Hobbsee> harmental: for the kwallet password
[04:50] <user_> elisboa: but anyways, when i typed in that command to list the hardwarer, they ARE i dentified, so, how do i get them to work?
[04:50] <nicoc> can anyone help me to install kubuntu edgy on a mac intel??
[04:50] <RealisticDragon> Godet: have you checked the speakers are on and work etc?
[04:50] <lloyd> ihm, nobody here ever experienced something like that?
[04:50] <Godet> yes
[04:50] <RealisticDragon> nicoc: getting my powerbook next month, good luck :) there are some threads on the forum that describe all the wierd oddities
[04:50] <elisboa> user_: when you lsmod, are the modules loaded?
[04:50] <hugeta> im totaly new kubuntu user....how to install gz file
[04:51] <lupul> please someone. how can i make the second partition on the hard drive smaller so that i can make the first bigger? without loosing any data. i'm on edgy
[04:51] <atron> but im hearing sounds from xmms
[04:51] <hugeta> i confuse to run gz file
[04:51] <atron> and playing mp3 files
[04:51] <Godet> RealisticDragon: i hve no problem about speaker and etc.
[04:51] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: hehe thanks, i think that i have to install refit instead of lilo or grub, but i dont know how :(
[04:52] <RealisticDragon> hugeta: unless you cant get it another way dont try to install from .gz files, try using aadept instead if the software is in it (K>add and remove programs)
[04:52] <Godet> RealisticDragon: i can listen to music on the windows, but i cant on the kubuntu
[04:52] <RealisticDragon> nicoc: you need to use boot camp
[04:52] <RealisticDragon> nicoc: there is a howto on the ubuntu wiki I believe
[04:52] <hugeta> thank mr dragoon
[04:52] <user_> elisboa: i typed in that command, but i dont know what im looking for, what should i find?
[04:52] <RealisticDragon> Godet: ok, if you open a terminal can you get any beeps by pressing tab?
[04:52] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: i already have bootcamp and refit, i'll try to search in there.
[04:53] <elisboa> user_: lsmod?
[04:53] <Godet> RealisticDragon: no, icant hear anything
[04:53] <user_> elisboa: yah  tyed that into terminal, what am i looking for in the list that shows up?>
[04:53] <david_> Can anyone help me to activate compiz in kubuntu feisty?
[04:53] <coty> anyone know how to make virtual drive
[04:53] <RealisticDragon> sounds like it hasnt found your sound card at all godet :/ might be more than i can help you with easily from here :(
[04:54] <elisboa> user_: if the modules of your hardware were loaded. In the case, the modules of your ethernet card
[04:54] <RealisticDragon> !compiz
[04:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:54] <coty> !virtualdrive
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <elisboa> !wireless
[04:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <user_> elisboa: ok, but what am i looking for in the list?  in other words, how do i identify the modules are loaded?
[04:55] <elisboa> !laptop
[04:55] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:55] <elisboa> user_: Oh, well, you should read the linux kernel documentation, then.
[04:55] <david_> ubotu: thanks for that but I need info for using feisty. compiz is in the repository.
[04:55] <krillin> can someone recomend a good mp3 player
[04:55] <user_> elisboa: honestly....
[04:55] <cntb> anyone using local apt source. I mean complete mirror ?
[04:55] <RealisticDragon> user_: cat /proc/modules
[04:55] <elisboa> krillin: amarok!
[04:56] <RealisticDragon> user_: or cat /proc/modules | less
[04:56] <krillin> amrock just crashed will try again
[04:56] <RealisticDragon> eek :/ amarock is the best mp3 player i have ever used
[04:56] <elisboa> krillin: you can try audacious, xmms, beep-media-player, mplayer, xine... ?-)
[04:57] <Iced_Tea> amarok is king
[04:57] <elisboa> I love Amarok, but hate when it hangs :-)
[04:57] <RealisticDragon> there is also a rewrite of xmms that makes it play nice with multiple sound sources
[04:57] <RealisticDragon> but i cant remember what its called :( a something
[04:57] <user_> RealisticDragon: hey thanks man, so of this list what am i looking for?
[04:57] <RealisticDragon> audacioucs maybe
[04:58] <RealisticDragon> user_: sorry i wasnt following the rest of the discussion dont know the problem :/
[04:58] <krillin> i will re boot and try again bbiab
[04:58] <RealisticDragon> whats your issue?
[04:58] <atron> cntb, what can it be? xine cant initialize audio drivers?
[04:59] <raffytaffy> i finally got Moblock to work
[04:59] <user_> RealisticDragon: lol.  well the issues is when installing off the 6.10 cd the ethernet hardware could not be detected.  now, i have run the command to list hardware, and sure enough both are there.  so, how do i get them both working? the laptop is the (LG F1-2245A9) and the hardware is the: The onboard ethernet is the: Realtek RTL8168/8111, and The onboard wifi is the: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[05:00] <RealisticDragon> user_: ok, both those bits of hardware are well supported so there will be an answer, just need to find it ;) give me a sec and ill see what i can turn up
[05:01] <RealisticDragon> user_: i assume you tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart already?
[05:01] <user_> RealisticDragon: really?  thanks a MILLION!  i havent been able to find anything because the machine is relatively new
[05:01] <david_> is there a feisty channel for kubuntu?
[05:01] <user_> no i havent but i can do that right now
[05:01] <user_> RealisticDragon: no i havent but i can do that right now
[05:02] <RealisticDragon> user_: i was actually looking at wireless cards with that chipset because i know it has drivers :) they are in hp pro laptops
[05:03] <RealisticDragon> once you have tried that can you do "iwconfig" and tell me if your wireless card shows up?
[05:04] <hugeta> where link for download kylix can anybody help me
[05:04] <user_> RealisticDragon: hey, tried that, it says reconfigured devices [ok]    but then tried to get on the net and nope, still not up and running
[05:05] <user_> RealisticDragon: ok ill try that other command
[05:05] <smile> hi everybody
[05:05] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: 'r u there?
[05:05] <user_> RealisticDragon: hey, it says "no wireless extensions"
[05:06] <user_> RealisticDragon: for all: lo, eth0, sit0
[05:06] <smile> how to make my task bar looks like MacOS
[05:06] <RealisticDragon> dunno david_, lets find out :)
[05:06] <RealisticDragon> !feisty
[05:06] <RealisticDragon> does iwconfig show anything?
[05:06] <RealisticDragon> thanks :)
[05:06] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:06] <RealisticDragon> im up to 88s lag at the moment so not sure how long this will stay connected for :/
[05:06] <RealisticDragon> only just nicoc :)
[05:06] <RealisticDragon> user_: ok, so its not seeing your card at all :o it should be there as eth1
[05:06] <Jucato> smile: please explain
[05:07] <david_> thanks
[05:07] <raffytaffy> the next one will be renegade rooster lol
[05:07] <smile> i want have my task bar looks like the task bar of Mac Os
[05:07] <user_> RealisticDragon: yah, thats the problem.  no networking devices work at the moment, but they are detectable as hardware
[05:07] <RealisticDragon> user_: have you got a hardware on/off switch? apparetly linux sees it as off by default when you boot
[05:07] <RealisticDragon> for the wireless card i mean :)
[05:07] <Jucato> smile: which one? the menu bar at the top?
[05:08] <user_> RealisticDragon: yup i do have that actually
[05:08] <Jucato> smile: or you mean the dock? with zooming icons?
[05:08] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: im taking a look at this guide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook -
[05:08] <RealisticDragon> nicoc: sounds like the best place to look :)
[05:08] <smile> the menubar
[05:08] <user_> RealisticDragon: and its on, typed same command, same thing
[05:08] <smile> in the bottom
[05:08] <RealisticDragon> rats, was hoping for an easy answer ;)
[05:08] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: but i have mac os x in the partition number 2, i want to keep it.
[05:08] <Jucato> !kxdocker | smile
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kxdocker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <Jucato> bah..
[05:09] <RealisticDragon> nicoc: sorry i havent got mine yet :( no experience with it until next week :)
[05:09] <user_> RealisticDragon: however my main concern is just getting the realtek up and running so i can just update everything and deal with the wifi afterwards
[05:09] <RealisticDragon> ok
[05:09] <smile> Jucato: kxdocker ?
[05:09] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: and there's says that i have to put this - sudo gptsync /dev/sda && sudo sfdisk -c /dev/sda 3 83 - when the install progress is at 50%
[05:09] <Jucato> smile: yeah look for that app... not sure it's in the repositories though, but there's another one like it
[05:09] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: do you know if that will affect mi mac os x partition?
[05:10] <Jucato> !info kooldock | smile
[05:10] <ubotu> smile: kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[05:10] <RealisticDragon> nicoc: way over my head without doing more reading :/ launchpad is the best place to ask (launchpad.net)
[05:10] <Jucato> ah found it!
[05:10] <Jucato> !info kxdocker | smile
[05:10] <ubotu> smile: kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[05:10] <nicoc> RealisticDragon: okok, thanks :)
[05:10] <smile> ubotu: i have Dapper not Edgy
[05:10] <coty> does linux requre being defragmented
[05:10] <RealisticDragon> coty: no
[05:10] <coty> why not
[05:10] <jakkass> when you have large harddrives theres no need even in Windows
[05:10] <Jucato> smile: ubotu is a bot
[05:11] <david_> compiz!
[05:11] <RealisticDragon> user_: checking up on the realtek now... ifconfig shows up eth1 right?
[05:11] <Jucato> !info kxdocker dapper | smile
[05:11] <jack> hi is there a downloadable german dictionary i can use offline in the reps or somewhere else??
[05:11] <ubotu> smile: kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[05:11] <coty> But i had to have defragment removale on windows
[05:11] <coty> why would i not need it with linxu
[05:11] <coty> linux
[05:12] <RealisticDragon> coty:  the way linux handles file systems is not the same
[05:12] <RealisticDragon> it runs fsck by itself when it needs to
[05:12] <user_> RealisticDragon: if config pulls up lo
[05:12] <RealisticDragon> no eth1 at all?
[05:12] <coty> oh ok
[05:12] <user_> RealisticDragon: and shows what appears to be networking information
[05:12] <coty> thats alsome
[05:13] <coty> so does anyone know how to make a drive a virtual drive
[05:13] <RealisticDragon> user_: this is not the best answer i know but i cant find much because no one else seems to have had any problems with that chipset :( can i be a real pest and ask you to check off your live cd/install CD? i think you might have a borked install somehow
[05:13] <RealisticDragon> if you cant start it up from the control panel
[05:14] <RealisticDragon> start>system settings>network settings
[05:15] <ksnipa> anyone know where the kde startup file is, (the file that loads all apps when kde boots)
[05:15] <coty> that would be grub
[05:15] <coty> am i right
[05:15] <RealisticDragon> ksnipa: ~/.kde/autostart
[05:15] <Jucato> ksnipa: by default, KDE will save the session at logout and restore that session when you login
[05:15] <RealisticDragon> but any apps you leave open on your desktop automatically restart
[05:15] <user_> RealisticDragon: lol, well actually i just found a similar topic in the forum and says i can enable it from administrator mode somehow????
[05:16] <Jucato> ksnipa: meaning, apps that you leave open when you logout will be reopened.
[05:16] <user_> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12928.0
[05:16] <RealisticDragon> user_: sounds like its from that start>system settings>network panel :)
[05:16] <Jucato> ksnipa: you can change the behavior in System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager (Edgy) or System Settings -> KDE Components -> Session Manager (Dapper)
[05:16] <PL> cze
[05:16] <Jucato> !autostart | ksnipa
[05:16] <ubotu> ksnipa: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:16] <hugeta> help how to install a program in ubuntu....not from aadept
[05:16] <ksnipa> RealisticDragon & Jucato, ya thanks, no I ran into problem where since I  logged back in opengl got all mucked up (glxinfo throws errors) and I got beryl in my startup so anytime kde boots it just dies at a white screen
[05:17] <RealisticDragon> hugeta: you can use sudo apt-get
[05:17] <PL> jes ktos z polski
[05:17] <RealisticDragon> ksnipa: then you can log into the command line and change the links in the autostart directory
[05:17] <Jucato> !pl | PL
[05:17] <ubotu> PL: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:17] <PL> thx
[05:17] <ksnipa> yea, thats what I'm looking to do right now
[05:18] <user_> RealisticDragon: hey i think we are on to something here, where is the administrator mode button at!?
[05:18] <hugeta> what's that....i confuse. ussualy im in windows just a click install button......ehm
[05:18] <RealisticDragon> user_: when you open up the network settings option in the system control panel it has an adminstirator mode button
[05:18] <RealisticDragon> hugeta: may i ask which package you are trying to install?
[05:18] <skittles> has any1 had this problem? turned on pc, everything FROZE like state, had to force quit
[05:18] <RealisticDragon> hugeta: you might need to use a different thing depending on what you want to install
[05:19] <hugeta> firefox setup.exe instead ubuntu disk..
[05:19] <RealisticDragon> ok, theres an easier way to install firefox :)
[05:20] <RealisticDragon> you dont need to use the .exe
[05:20] <vain> hello
[05:20] <RealisticDragon> open up adept (K>add remove programs) then type in firefox
[05:20] <skittles> is there a java paltform, for edgy?
[05:20] <RealisticDragon> once you have done that you can see it says "firefox" and then you just click on it and select install
[05:20] <ksnipa> all right one problem Autostart directory is empty :S
[05:20] <RealisticDragon> that way the application manager will do all the work for you :) and keep it up to date
[05:20] <cruel_dog> hi vain
[05:20] <RealisticDragon> skittles: there are several ways to get java, need anything specific?
[05:21] <Jucato> ksnipa: it might be a saved Session thing then
[05:21] <skittles> platform** sry for the misspell
[05:21] <user_> RealisticDragon: lol, i had to scroll down thats why i didnt see it.  anyways, so i did that, tried to enable the netowrk and it briefly ries to do so, but it is still not available.....
[05:21] <ksnipa> Jucato where would I find the saved session file ?
[05:21] <vain> cruel_dog: hello
[05:21] <RealisticDragon> user_: apologies user_, i think im going to run out of power before i fix it
[05:21] <RealisticDragon> going to change batteries and i will be right back :)
[05:21] <Jucato> ksnipa: ~/.kde/share/config/session/ directory. clear that out
[05:21] <balint> hi, how can i edit the xorg.conf with kate?
[05:21] <balint> i mean that i also can save it too
[05:21] <nicoc> RealisticDragon hey, can you give me the link of that guide again please?
[05:21] <user_> RealisticDragon: lol, sounds good man, going to grab some cereal here as well
[05:21] <RealisticDragon> balint: sudo kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <vain> hm
[05:22] <RealisticDragon> brb battery change
[05:22] <ksnipa> Jacato, all right got it
[05:22] <hugeta> oh my god its work....thank's bro
[05:22] <Jucato> balint: kdesu kate /etc/apt/xorg.conf
[05:22] <ksnipa> lets give it a whilr
[05:22] <ksnipa> *whirl
[05:22] <balint> not etc???
[05:22] <vain> does anyone know how i can gain acces to my other disk-the one with Windows?
[05:22] <nicoc> !intel
[05:22] <Jucato> balint: er sorry
[05:22] <Jucato> balint: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <nicoc> iintel
[05:22] <nicoc> dasdsa
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <apikoros> vain, you need to mount it.
[05:22] <cruel_dog> try mounting it
[05:22] <hugeta> how is make my laptop connect to win server 2000
[05:22] <cruel_dog> vain: mount if
[05:23] <cruel_dog> it*
[05:23] <nicoc> can anyone give me a link to the ubuntu guide to install ubuntu on a mac intel please??
[05:23] <balint> ok thx . i just forget it cos i wasnt on linux for a while and now the driver is set back to nv instead of nvidia :D
[05:23] <apikoros> can anyone recommend a lightweight, qt-based text editor for kde? mostly i use vi in a terminal window, but sometime in need a GUI and kate is too heavy. simple and fast does it.
[05:23] <Jucato> apikoros: kwrite. it uses the same editor as kate (katepart) but with less features
[05:23] <cruel_dog> apikoros: kate is a good text editor in my opinion
[05:24] <hugeta> how to update all my laptop driver automaticly
[05:24] <apikoros> Jucato: thanks, i'll try it
[05:24] <apikoros> cruel_dog: it's heavy on my system (P4 1.8)
[05:24] <cruel_dog> apikoros ah ok
[05:24] <Jucato> apikoros: I have a 1.5Ghz system... and even when I had just 512MB, Kate was never heavy :)
[05:24] <hugeta> i think i love ubuntu
[05:24] <Jucato> 512MB RAM I mean
[05:24] <vain> apikoros: i get an error when i click 'mount'        cant find  /dev/hdb1 in /etc /fstab
[05:25] <hugeta> anybody can send link site of borland kylix
[05:25] <cruel_dog> vain: try mounting it manually with the command. (if the filesystem is compatible)
[05:26] <vain> cruel_dog: could you please give me that code.I'm a newb!
[05:26] <apikoros> vain, open a command window. first type sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[05:26] <cruel_dog> vain: sorry, i dont remember it
[05:26] <apikoros> then sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows
[05:26] <kristjan_> what are the risks of using "sudo" instead of kdesu for graphical text editors, like kate, etc.?
[05:26] <nicoc> can anyone give me a guide on how to install kubuntu on a macbook intel?
[05:27] <apikoros> kristjan_: no risk, just different interface. kdesu is just graphical, sudo is tty based
[05:27] <apikoros> nicoc: google is your friend
[05:28] <nicoc> apikoros im searching it but i canot find that guide :.
[05:28] <nicoc> :(
[05:28] <apikoros> vain, after that, assuming /dev/hdb1 is in fact your windows partition, you should be able to see it on your disk at /mnt/windows
[05:28] <apikoros> nicoc: i typed "macbook intel ubuntu" into google and got plenty of results
[05:29] <RealisticDragon> gah @ ppc wireless
[05:29] <vain> apikoros: i did it.now i get this error when i try to get in the disc: could not enter folder /mnt/windows
[05:29] <ksnipa> Jucato, still running into the problem with beryl loading up during that session, i deleted all files in my kde/share/config/session folder also
[05:29] <RealisticDragon> 5 seconds to change the battery, 35 to get the network working again ;)
[05:29] <nicoc> yap me too, but there is a ubuntu guide that i canot find
[05:29] <ksnipa> any other ideas as to where it maybe loading?
[05:30] <Jucato> ksnipa: sorry, nope. try asking in #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[05:30] <apikoros> vain, you have to set permissions for your normal user to access it. try chown yourusername.yourusername /mnt/windows
[05:30] <user_> RealisticDragon: hey just to give you an update, so i changed the  network to dhcp, and it finally accepted, but then tried internet, no luck, then restarted, and everything is the same is before....
[05:30] <ksnipa> join #beryl
[05:30] <kai> wasup people
[05:30] <ksnipa> yea thanks, maybe I should muck around and try to get gl working instead, I think that would also fix things up
[05:30] <apikoros> vain, or chmod a+r /mnt/windows
[05:31] <apikoros> i forget which is the right way to do it
[05:31] <apikoros> errrr sudo chmod a+r /mnt/windows i mean
[05:31] <kai> I have a geforece 5600go on this laptop, is there any way I can get a higher resolution than 1024x768?
[05:31] <user_> RealisticDragon: AGVASKGHWJGIHASDDDDKANV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:31] <apikoros> user_: you think?
[05:31] <user_> RealisticDragon: erm..... it now works..... HAHAHAHAHA
[05:32] <user_> RealisticDragon: TIME TO UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:32] <vain> apikoros: chmod a+r /mnt/windows
[05:32] <apikoros> vain, sudo chmod a+r /mnt/windows
[05:32] <vain> vain@vain-desktop:~$ chmod a+r /mnt/windows
[05:32] <vain> chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/windows': Read-only file system
[05:32] <kristjan_> kai: open konsole and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:33] <apikoros> but maybe you shouldn't listen to me and have someone tell you how to do it using the graphical interface
[05:33] <lupul> are there any viruses for linux? some say yes some no... and i don't know what to say anymore
[05:34] <kai> then what would I do?
[05:34] <apikoros> lupul, there have been some proof-of-concepts and exploits, but mostly as intellectual exercises rather than any that have actually spread
[05:34] <kristjan_> lupul: viruses on linux are something you shouldn't be worried about
[05:34] <apikoros> yeah, what kristjan_ said
[05:34] <lupul> i'm not
[05:34] <PL> he
[05:35] <kristjan_> lupul: maybe then linux gets more widespread where will be viruses written for it...
[05:35] <lupul> but i'm having argues with some of my firends who say that linux viruses exist.
[05:35] <kristjan_> kai: well, did you run it?
[05:35] <chijin> some do exist, but they don't circulate
[05:35] <Jucato> !virus | lupul
[05:35] <ubotu> lupul: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:35] <ceros> i tried the kubuntu feisty desktop cd for ppc on a ps3 and it doesn't work
[05:35] <lupul> ok
[05:35] <kai> Im doin it now
[05:35] <lupul> thanks
[05:35] <lupul> i know there is av soft. i have avg :D
[05:35] <PL> jak jest czat polski
[05:36] <kristjan_> kai: choose "nv"
[05:36] <Jucato> lupul: linux viruses exist only in labs and theoretically can't do harm in the wild. more of "proof of concept" types
[05:36] <Jucato> !pl | PL
[05:36] <ubotu> PL: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:36] <kristjan_> kai: what monitor do you got?
[05:36] <kai> kristjan_: I did
[05:36] <kai> Idk, its an alienware
[05:36] <lupul> k thanks
[05:36] <Jucato> lupul: you can rest assured of one thing: Windows viruses will not work on Linux
[05:37] <lupul> i know because here aren't any exe's
[05:37] <chijin> heh one could try running a virus with wine :D
[05:37] <hugeta> how to get mysql,php,phpmyadmin on ubuntu ehm sorry my aadept not work rarely
[05:37] <kai> kristjan_: Its askin me what resolutions i can use, oh thank god.
[05:37] <kai> I think Im close to done
[05:37] <BluesKaj> why wine ...if ya want windows , dual boot
[05:38] <Jucato> lupul: well, there are executable files. but that's not the real reason. there reason is that those Windows viruses were meant to run on Windows systems, which is very, very different from Linux systems. (just take a look at the directory structure). anyway try reading that link given above
[05:38] <apikoros> ok vain try this: sudo umount /mnt/windows
[05:38] <apikoros> then sudo echo "/dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows auto rw,user,auto 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[05:38] <apikoros> then mount /mnt/windows
[05:38] <vain> permision denied at this 2. cde
[05:38] <vain> *code
[05:39] <apikoros> did you forget the sudo?
[05:39] <kai> kristjan_: now, I can just go in and use the resolutions set
[05:39] <vain> nope
[05:40] <kai> brb
[05:42] <lupul> i read it
[05:42] <kai> kristjan_: are there any other options if I still can't change my resolution?
[05:42] <lupul> more knowledge acumulated thanks
[05:43] <kristjan_> kai: yeah. what's your monitor model?
[05:43] <kai> kri'
[05:43] <kai> kristjan_: Im not sure its an alienware
[05:44] <vain> apikoros: i didn't forget 'sudo'
[05:44] <cntb> vain your windows is on ntfs I guess
[05:44] <vain> aha
[05:45] <kristjan_> kai: I wan't your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf (use pastebin please)
[05:45] <kai> ok
[05:45] <kristjan_> kai: did you restart X btw?
[05:46] <kai> I logged out and logged back in
[05:46] <kristjan_> kai: ahaa! logging out and back in won't restart X
[05:46] <chijin> :-)
[05:46] <kai> go in to console and do it
[05:47] <chijin> ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X
[05:47] <kristjan_> kai: (at least not in k/ubuntu) - log out and choose "restart X in menu somewhere"
[05:47] <kai> ok
[05:47] <kai> kristjan_: brb, will try again
[05:48] <kai> kristjan_: Your tigt, my eyes are bleedin now :)
[05:52] <kristjan_> kai: if you want faster 2d acceleration and if you plan on using 3d acceleration requiring applications - then why not install nvidia-glx package?
[05:54] <kai> kristjan_: becasue I did it 3x time and everytime I had to re-install. it made my montor turn weird colors
[05:55] <kai> kristjan_: if I was to do that, how would I recover if there was a problem?
[05:55] <chijin> you reinstalled kubuntu every time+
[05:55] <chijin> ?
[05:55] <Tobias_> how do I play "teg" adept didnt make me a menu option under "games" :)
[05:56] <kristjan_> kai: use livecd and edit xorg.conf to use nv :) ?
[05:56] <Tobias_> and simply writing "teg" in the console was sadly not what was needed
[05:57] <Tobias_> the full name is "Tenes Empanadas Graciela" and I dont get it
[05:57] <chijin> kristjan_: or even better, he should press ctrl+alt+f1 and do that in the console
[05:57] <kai> kristjan_: So edit the xorg back to defaults is what your saying? how would I install the new package, whats the name of it?
[05:57] <kristjan_> chijin: well, kai has colorful garbage on the screen. I doubt ttys are visible
[05:58] <kristjan_> kai: you got geforce 5200?
[05:58] <kai> no its a gefore 5600go
[05:59] <kai> Its what Alienware puts in their laptops
[05:59] <kai> the go series
[05:59] <kristjan_> kai: you should simply install nvidia-glx package then and then  sudo nvidia-xconfig  in konsole
[06:00] <mlc> hello! xubuntu-rookie says good day
[06:00] <mlc> ;)
[06:00] <kai> iT was weird when I did ir it go this odd color that started from the lower and spread thru my whole screen, I freeked and turned off my computer
[06:00] <kai> Imma try it again, Im kinda scared about it tho
[06:00] <kristjan_> kai: you got your kubuntu cd?
[06:01] <kai> I got the ubuntu one, yes
[06:02] <kai> and I run that command you gave me again
[06:02] <kai> after installing the package?
[06:02] <chijin> yes
[06:02] <kristjan_> kai: yeah
[06:02] <kai> I just installed it
[06:02] <kai> Im doin it right now
[06:03] <chijin> i've had my laptop's screen look like it's burning when x tried to autodetect my screen :D
[06:03] <kristjan_> kai: if you still get garbage, reboot and try booting without "splash" and add vga=normal
[06:05] <kai> kristjan_: how do I boot w/o splash
[06:05] <kai> how do I turn that off?
[06:06] <kristjan_> kai: then grub loads hit escape and choose first boot option. press e; navigate to line that begins with "kernel" and hit e again. now find splash and remove it, also add vga=normal to the line
[06:07] <Contrast> Is it possible to make digiKam NOT make copies of all my pictures, and instead just assign tags and whatnot to the originals?
[06:08] <kristjan_> chijin: oops. looks like garbage screen strike kai again :/
[06:08] <chijin> :-P
[06:10] <hugeta> how to mysql ok bro help
[06:10] <hugeta> i mean  how to get mysql
[06:10] <atidem> hello
[06:10] <hugeta> in adept
[06:11] <coty> should i try ubuntu
[06:11] <coty> just delete kubuntu
[06:12] <c1|freaky> why would u want to?
[06:12] <coty> because i want beryl
[06:12] <c1|freaky> if it isnt working with ubuntu
[06:12] <c1|freaky> it wont work with gnome
[06:12] <c1|freaky> because its not kde related imo
[06:12] <c1|freaky> though, if u want to upgrade to kubuntu
[06:12] <c1|freaky> i mean if u want to switch to ubuntu
[06:13] <c1|freaky> u can still just install ubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <c1|freaky> in addition to kubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <coty> i have
[06:13] <c1|freaky> and u will have both
[06:13] <c1|freaky> installing ubuntu-desktop is the same as running ubuntu only
[06:13] <coty> i've done that
[06:13] <coty> yeah
[06:13] <coty> well
[06:13] <coty> is there anyway i could have it on a diffrent hd
[06:13] <c1|freaky> if it isnt working i dont see any reason why it should be working without having kubuntu-desktop installed
[06:13] <^demon^> jeez nothing works on here... if konversation connected to quakenet-servers i could ask someone there
[06:14] <^demon^> why won't it... can't i be in two networks at the same time?
[06:14] <coty> c1|freaky: is there a way i could boot from slave
[06:14] <coty> c1|freaky: I would like to have it on a diffrent drive
[06:14] <c1|freaky> use grub ...
[06:14] <coty> c1|freaky: how
[06:14] <c1|freaky> i didnt do that since now
[06:15] <c1|freaky> just install ubuntu on the other drive it *should* recognize the kubuntu installation and also add it to the grub it will install
[06:15] <sstchur> what would be a descent player for handling mov files?
[06:15] <coty> c1|freaky: I have done it and it never does anything
[06:15] <c1|freaky> hm, cant help u then
[06:15] <coty> c1|freaky: it just boots into kde
[06:15] <RavenTux> What is the default kernel for the beta version??
[06:16] <c1|freaky> RavenTux: Linux loopy2 2.6.20-13-generic #2 SMP Sun Mar 25 00:21:25 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:16] <RavenTux> c1|freaky: thanks :)
[06:16] <c1|freaky> np
[06:23] <sstchur> why would I get "Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate" when doing apt-get ?
[06:26] <LegolasV> sstchur: feisty or edgy?
[06:27] <sstchur> LegolasV: edgy
[06:27] <dryang> hello
[06:27] <dryang> hmm, if i want to play dixm movies in ubnutu what to do ?
[06:27] <sstchur> LegolasV: looks like I had to change universe to universe multiverse ?
[06:28] <sstchur> that seems to be doing the trick
[06:28] <LegolasV> sstchur: yes it's in multiverse
[06:28] <LegolasV> it's "non-free" ;)
[06:29] <jaysays> Hi, anyone here got a ATI Radeon card working with feisty ?
[06:30] <dryang> hmm, my next question was, how to install ati drivers
[06:30] <dryang> first day on linux.. excuse me ..
[06:31] <kristjan_> kai are you here?
[06:32] <jaysays> heh good luck, I have been following this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[06:33] <jaysays> but I have ran into a few problems
[06:35] <sstchur> LegolasV: ok... so what would it mean if I try playing a .mov file, and I hear audio, but see no video?
[06:38] <LegolasV> sstchur: still bad codecs I guess
[06:38] <sstchur> LegolasV: any idea how I troubleshoot that?
[06:41] <LegolasV> sstchur: you could try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[06:42] <LegolasV> sstchur: I have to go away now, so I'll just wish you succes, I'll may be back later this day but there are always people  here who can help :)
[06:42] <cntb> how to restore trash icon on desktop 6.10
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know what could cause this gray colouring? http://i11.tinypic.com/30l11qp.png
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> cntb: right-click the panel and click Add Applet
[06:44] <sstchur> thanks
[06:44] <slestak> im putting a kubuntu machine together for a family i know.  their first computer in a long time.  any must have apps i should throw on there.  i was thinking googleearth, frozen bubble,
[06:45] <_kai_> kristjan_: It killed my computer
[06:45] <voorhees86> i install kubuntu and my notebook freeze on a black screen after status bar!!!
[06:45] <_kai_> kristjan_: My happy to be back, I didn't think I was goin to be able to save it
[06:47] <slestak> voorhees86: do you know how to edit grub command line, remove quiet and splash dont save it then boot
[06:48] <voorhees86> i do that, and the same thing
[06:48] <voorhees86> happend
[06:49] <slestak> voorhees86: were you able to see boot dmesg output as it booted?
[06:50] <voorhees86> yes, but the black screen happends after it
[06:51] <kai> kristjan_: I will never install that package again
[06:51] <slestak> voorhees86: do you see a console with login, then it disappears to go black?  trying to determine if X is attempting to start
[06:51] <voorhees86> i dont see the login screen
[06:51] <kristjan_> kai: too bad. what happened?
[06:51] <kristjan_> kai: and how did you recover?
[06:52] <voorhees86> i think the problem happends , when x is starting
[06:52] <slestak> voorhees86: has this install ever worked, or is it a new install?
[06:53] <voorhees86> a new, but a have reinstalled too , and no solve the problem
[06:53] <cntb> can I nice an App thru kmenueditor?
[06:53] <kai> I re ran that x-server
[06:54] <slestak> voorhees86:  im not sure man.  after grub starts booting, now long till the black screen starts?  have any other distros eun ok on this machine?
[06:54] <kai> kristjan_: I lucked out, Im tryin to do a school project, I coulnd't afford to re-install
[06:54] <voorhees86> windows works perfect on that machine
[06:55] <cntb> try supergrub
[06:55] <kristjan_> kai: how could you run it if lcd displayed garbage?
[06:55] <slestak> voorhees86: how long after grub starts booting does it take for black screen to come.  does the blue kubuntu splash ever show?
[06:55] <Hrontore> okay, I'm trying to get a binary driver to work for an ati vid card, can any one here help?
[06:56] <voorhees86> no, the balck screen aperar when x is about to start
[06:56] <slestak> voorhees86: ati or nvidia card?
[06:56] <kai> kristjan_: It kept bring me to the console
[06:56] <voorhees86> nvidia
[06:56] <kai> It didn't do what it did last time
[06:57] <kristjan_> kai: so it didn't start x at all?
[06:57] <voorhees86> we can talk on a private message?
[06:57] <bruja8> voorhees86 did you install beryl ?
[06:57] <kai> kristjan_: nope
[06:57] <slestak> voorhees86: sure.  pm me
[06:57] <kristjan_> kai: ok then. at least you got nv driver working...
[06:57] <kai> kristjan_: At first I was getting this error that it couldn't find some frame buffering device
[06:58] <kai> I got a higher res so I co do my development work in netbeans
[06:59] <voorhees86> slestak:im talking to you on pc, and you than awmser me
[07:00] <slestak> voorhees86: im in pm window :)
[07:00] <voorhees86> you see me talking?
[07:01] <slestak> voorhees86: not in pm, i posted last on my window
[07:02] <slestak> voorhees86: im going to part from the pm window, start a fresh one
[07:05] <slestak> i have a desktop machine that will no tcompletely shut off when shutdown is selected.  isnt that an acpi thing?
[07:09] <voorhees86> slestak you have msn?
[07:09] <Ryiel> hey
[07:09] <voorhees86> the pm dosent work
[07:10] <slestak> voorhees86: i see the pm, it works, i was distracted by work
[07:10] <voorhees86> but you dont talk to me
[07:11] <slestak> i only have one room up at a time, i did not see you there, go over to pm
[07:11] <smile> hi everybody .. how can i chat with microfone ?
[07:11] <smile> via kopete or Gaim ?
[07:12] <smile> anyhelp plz ?
[07:13] <voorhees86> lets go to channel abcde
[07:13] <slestak> k
[07:15] <jarn> How do I make scripts use aliases I have set up? I just made a one-line script to run something in wine using an alias (wineda) that opens it on a specific desktop but it gives me command not found... it works fine from the terminal.
[07:16] <user_> hey can someone help me out with setting up a network here very quickly?
[07:17] <user_> well setting up folders i can share on the netowrk anyways.  seems to have changed since 5.10
[07:18] <tux> w00t upgrading to feisty
[07:19] <tux> jarn: just put your script in /usr/bin/
[07:19] <jarn> tux: Okay. But why does it have to be there?
[07:19] <tux> that's where the system starts looking for commands
[07:19] <user_> anyone?
[07:20] <jarn> tux: I already have it in a place that is in the path.
[07:20] <tux> if you're script is called test and you put it in usr/bin you can call on the script by just typing the name instead of the entire path to the scri[t
[07:20] <tux> script
[07:20] <jarn> tux: And putting it in /usr/bin doesn't help, it still produces that error.
[07:20] <myTB|Tanuva> does kde save the actual wallpaper somewhere for itself?
[07:20] <jarn> tux: I know very well what the path is. You don't get what I mean.
[07:20] <myTB|Tanuva> jarn: set it executable?
[07:21] <jarn> tux: My script looks like this "wineda /home/jarn/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Guild\ Wars/Gw.exe". It is called gw. When I run gw, it tells me wineda is not found. wineda is an alias I set up that does "kstart --activate --desktop 5 wine".
[07:21] <smile> how can i have a voice chat in kubuntu ?
[07:22] <tux> hm strange
[07:22] <jarn> myTB|Tanuva: Yes. It's not the script that it can't find, it's the alias in it.
[07:22] <Chousuke> jarn: shell scripts don't necessarily know about aliases
[07:22] <jarn> Chousuke: Is there a way to make it know about aliases?
[07:22] <myTB|Tanuva> but if its a script, why dont you just put the bare command in it without using the alias?
[07:22] <binks> how do i turn off adept_notifier
[07:22] <Chousuke> jarn: you need to define them in the non-interactive shell rc file :/
[07:23] <Chousuke> IIRC for bash that is .bashrc
[07:23] <jarn> Chousuke: I put it in ~/.bashrc - is that what you mean?
[07:23] <tux> jarn: off course you started the script with #!/bin/sh
[07:23] <sstchur> Any multivideo I try to play is coming up just totally blank, but clearly it's trying to play -- any idea why that'd happen?
[07:23] <Chousuke> and /bin/sh is dash, right?
[07:23] <tux> well it runns shellscripts
[07:23] <tux> so it works for me :p
[07:24] <tux> sometimes i forget to put that in and it produces errors
[07:25] <Chousuke> yeah, but using /bin/sh when you want /bin/bash may be the problem here. :)
[07:25] <enrico_> hello :)
[07:25] <jarn> I didn't think I needed either one since it was just running a program, not any fancy scripts.
[07:25] <tux> you can give it a try Chousuke
[07:25] <tux> or jarn
[07:25] <tux> :p
[07:26] <tux> the one asking the question
[07:26] <Chousuke> jarn: well, it matters since dash obviously reads dash configuration, and you've only configured bash :)
[07:26] <Chousuke> anyway
[07:26] <tux> jep so it needs /bin/sh or /bin/bash or something
[07:27] <jarn> Ah... well, neither work. I'll just replace the alias with what it actually does, I suppose.
[07:27] <Chousuke> you could also just replace the alias with the full command
[07:27] <jarn> Yeah.
[07:27] <tux> if it's a script, the script has to go to the entire path, you dont so why bother making a alias
[07:28] <jarn> I use the alias when I run commands myself. I wanted to put it in the script merely for the sake of consistency.
[07:29] <cypher1> is there any plan to backport KDevelop 3.4.0 to edgy-backport ?
[07:29] <Chousuke> jarn: it seems there's no specific configuration file read when bash is started non-interactively
[07:29] <jarn> Chousuke: Ah... Okay, thanks.
[07:30] <Chousuke> unless one is specified in $BASH_ENV
[07:31] <jarn> My swap partition stopped being mounted on boot. I have to manually mount it now with "sudo swapon /dev/hda5". I don't recall when it happened.
[07:33] <cypher1> bug 66637
[07:33] <cypher1> jarn, this may help you Malone bug 66637 in util-linux "After running mkswap, swap space is discarded, system fails to hibernate (invalid swap signature)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66637
[07:34] <AdamKili> I know this is probably a super-noob question, but how do i install and use a KDM theme?
[07:34] <jarn> cypher1: I don't think I ever ran mkswap.
[07:34] <cypher1> jarn, did you upgrade recently ?
[07:34] <cypher1> jarn, i meant a disto upgrade
[07:34] <jarn> cypher1: No.
[07:36] <cypher1> jarn, may be /etc/fstab problem ?
[07:36] <jarn> cypher1: What in it?
[07:36] <cypher1> jarn, maybe a wrong UUID
[07:36] <Gizmo48> QUESTION:  I was in the process of updating some files with adept and it stalled.  I terminated the program, now when I run adept it  comes up read-only (how dod I fix that?)
[07:36] <cypher1> jarn, which version are you on ?
[07:36] <jarn> cypher1: 6.10
[07:37] <jarn> cypher1: Can I replace the UUID with /dev/hda5 like it used to be? Or would that cause problems?
[07:37] <cypher1> jarn, please read bug 66637.. there are lot of info in that
[07:37] <jarn> cypher1: Okay.
[07:37] <cypher1> jarn, yes i think in 6.10 we can replace UUID with /dev/*
[07:39] <jarn> cypher1: Okay.
[07:40] <Plastefuchs> hi, today i installed kubuntu 7.04 beta on a laptop and amarok 1.4.5 locks itself if i try to play an mp3 file.
[07:41] <Deepo> Hi
[07:41] <Deepo> how can I upgrade to feisty in kubuntu
[07:41] <AdamKili> Plastefuchs: do you have the proper packages to play mp3 files in amarok? xine-plugins i think
[07:41] <Deepo> something similar to the update-manager of gnome
[07:41] <elbing> have you installed an mp3 codec for amarok?
[07:42] <Plastefuchs> elbing: not yet, i hear the popup sound for the dialog that let me install it
[07:42] <AdamKili> Plastefuchs: it's xine-extracodecs
[07:42] <Plastefuchs> ah
[07:42] <AdamKili> Plastefuchs: libxine-extracodecs*
[07:43] <AdamKili> sorry
[07:44] <AdamKili> HELP: I know this is super-noob-like, but I can't figure out how to install and use a KDM theme.
[07:44] <Hrontore> okay, I'm trying to get a binary driver to work for an ati vid card, can any one here help?
[07:45] <user_> hey can someone help me with intializing my wireless netowrk card in my laptop?
[07:47] <Deepo> how can I upgrade to feisty in kubuntu ?
[07:50] <AdamKili> user_: the way i got mine working was i checked the system logs for when it detected the wifi card, and it said that a certain firmware file wasn't provided, so i googled the file name and downloaded the firmware, put it in <something>/firmware/ and my wifi worked. I hope it helps
[07:51] <Plastefuchs> AdamKili: Thank You :)
[07:55] <AdamKili> now, can anyone help me install and use a KDM theme? I'm no noob, but i can't figure it out!
[07:57] <balint> hi, can someone tell me a channel, where there are pepople who really know the internet and the network technology?
[07:57] <willie> try #scotlug
[07:59] <willie> balint: sensible  well-structured questions are always welcome in #scotlug
[08:01] <balint> thx
[08:02] <soulrider> hi everyone
[08:02] <tux> still upgrading to feisty
[08:02] <soulrider> everyone seems to be upgrding =./
[08:03] <tux> well it takes long enough
[08:03] <chijin> not if you have a 10mb connection
[08:03] <soulrider> at what speed are you downloading fromt he repos? i cant seem to be able to get past the 20 kb/s
[08:03] <chijin> 1300kB/s
[08:03] <tux> im using a update manage
[08:03] <tux> r
[08:03] <tux> 300kb/s here :(
[08:04] <tux> hm and 231 ms lag in
[08:04] <tux> IRC
[08:04] <Blissex> soulrider: depends on your connection and what mirrors you put in the repo files. I get 5-10MB/s.
[08:04] <waylandbill> I generally get 200-300 at work from them.
[08:08] <soulrider> Blissex: i guess ill change the mirrors then
[08:09] <Blissex> soulrider: you can also get a 1gb/s or a 10gb/s Internet connection.
[08:09] <Blissex> soulrider: more seriously...
[08:10] <tux> 307 k/s
[08:10] <tux> less then a minute left
[08:10] <Blissex> soulrider: there are a couple little utilities that scan a list of mirrors and test ping time and download rates.
[08:10] <Edulix> hi
[08:10] <Edulix> anyone knows how to download a song from goear? =)
[08:11] <Hrontore> YEA,
[08:11] <Hrontore> !!
[08:11] <Hrontore> okay how do i check if direct 3d hardware acceleration is enabled?, and how do i get glxgears to printfps?
[08:12] <tux> glxgear --printfps
[08:12] <Hrontore> :))
[08:12] <chijin> --printfps or -printfps doesn't work in feisty
[08:13] <Hrontore> i get unknown paramiter E when i do glxgears -printfps/glxgears --printfops
[08:13] <Hrontore> fps*
[08:14] <tux> hm
[08:15] <Hrontore> D3D how do i know its working, run a game?
[08:16] <tux> you can just try glxgers
[08:16] <tux> glxgears
[08:16] <tux> cant type
[08:16] <Hrontore> well i see the gears just fine but i want to know the fps
[08:17] <chijin> well then glxgears -printfps does that
[08:17] <Hrontore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13198/
[08:18] <Hrontore> brb
[08:19] <BoOoM> Hi/Bonjour
[08:20] <BoOoM> i need some help :s
[08:20] <BoOoM> nobody can help me?
[08:20] <rcmayor> help is on vacation. :-)
[08:20] <BoOoM> :(
[08:20] <BoOoM> I jut want to install Gnu make
[08:21] <BoOoM> but i just install linux
[08:21] <BoOoM> and i don't know how to install it
[08:21] <BoOoM> it's not on apt
[08:22] <firecrotch> BoOoM: apt-get build-essential   will install everything you need to compile programs
[08:23] <BoOoM> i don't really understand, i'm french, but i understand the 'pincipe'
[08:23] <ksnipa> So  I upgraded my video card, and I was wondering how would I go abouts updating my settings in the XORG automatically
[08:23] <soulrider> yeah, BoOoM, you might also wanna install checkinstall so you cna buiuld .deb packages. You can install/unintsall those packages really easily
[08:23] <BoOoM> but how to install gnu make?
[08:23] <soulrider> !fr | BoOoM
[08:23] <ubotu> BoOoM: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:23] <BoOoM> thxXx ^^
[08:23] <soulrider> BoOoM: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:28] <BruceLeeds> hey guys, somebody an idea in which format OO.org for the "Mail Merge Wizard" the e-mail-adress-list saves?
[08:29] <assassin> maybe xml?
[08:31] <BruceLeeds> assassin: I have an table in OO-Spreadshead and would like to get this list in the Mail Merge Wizard (more than 80 adresses)
[08:31] <BruceLeeds> assassin: so i would like to get it imported wouldn't like to copy and paste everything in the mail merge wizard
[08:32] <assassin> my oo is not too bright. anything on google?
[08:32] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm trying to set up vnc to my box via ssh.  Can anyone help me out?  All the howto's etc I could find didn't work.
[08:32] <Ch1ppy> er, sorry, I'm using only a ssh connection, but I'm not trying to tunnel
[08:39] <Ch1ppy> can anyone help me set up a VNC server?
[08:39] <jacquesdupontd> ah me voila
[08:39] <jacquesdupontd> faut que je m'en vais
[08:42] <baktaah> Anyone here
[08:42] <baktaah> ?
[08:42] <Ch1ppy> I am, but not one else seems to be
[08:42] <Ch1ppy> which sucks when you need help
[08:42] <baktaah> I was thinking of going KDE, since  KDE (ur choice) and Gnome (computers choice)
[08:42] <assassin> yep, i'm here
[08:42] <FringeJacket> baktaah I'm here
[08:43] <Ch1ppy> so does anyone know how to set up a VNC server at all?
[08:43] <baktaah> FringeJacket so how is KDE compared to gnome?
[08:43] <FringeJacket> Ch1ppy if we don't respond to a question, usually we don't know... but thats just observation
[08:43] <assassin> i have some offline vnc docs but not with me, sorry
[08:43] <Ash-Fox> It's kind of annoying that a newer OOo isn't provided in backports.
[08:43] <assassin> kde rules. try it!
[08:44] <FringeJacket> baktaah there are alot K's all over, but I like it
[08:44] <baktaah> assassin yeah thats some real heavy argument :)
[08:44] <FringeJacket> I suggest you try it
[08:44] <Ch1ppy> FringeJacket: I know, but I've found man, many times that on these chat rooms, people ignore you, and then when you actually get talking to them, they can help...
[08:44] <baktaah> FringeJacket  I can't try it without removing my fully customed gnome dist atm
[08:44] <baktaah> FringeJacket  can I have a screenshot of urs?
[08:44] <assassin> www.kde.org
[08:44] <Ash-Fox> Ch1ppy, install xvnc, then run 'xvnc -listen'
[08:45] <Ash-Fox> People can connect to your desktop then.
[08:45] <FringeJacket> yeah, mine has my setup and isn't a typical KDE feel (that and I run beryl too)
[08:45] <tux> hello all
[08:45] <Ash-Fox> Hello tux
[08:45] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: xvnc isn't a valid package/program, got a full name?
[08:46] <FringeJacket> Ch1ppy that is true, but some people get annoyed by duplicate questions and get grumpy... just a warning
[08:46] <FringeJacket> hi tux
[08:46] <tux> i got a question, does anyone here have experience with building a linux system from scratch, by command line?
[08:46] <Ch1ppy> FringeJacket: well, yeah, but I have never once gotten help the first time I asked.  ever.  and I've come asking a LOT of questions, so IMO, it's worth getting people annoyed just because I don't get help otherwise
[08:47] <baktaah> IS KDE more or less craving then GNOME?
[08:47] <Ash-Fox> Ch1ppy, I think the package is called 'rfb'
[08:47] <heinkel_112> craving with resepct to user or computer?
[08:47] <assassin> there's a great site on builing linus from scratch - www.linuxfromscratch.org
[08:47] <tux> :p
[08:47] <heinkel_112> baktaah: ^
[08:47] <baktaah> heinkel_112
[08:47] <baktaah> ?
[08:47] <baktaah> computer
[08:47] <Ash-Fox> Why would I want to build a kernel coder from scratch?
[08:48] <baktaah> is it true that KDE is more customable then Gnome?
[08:48] <tux> heinkel_112: i think gnome is more craving IMO for the user
[08:48] <Ash-Fox> I mean, he'd go psycho over one of my desktops running Gnome.
[08:48] <tux> hm i think so baktaah
[08:48] <FringeJacket> baktaah I got it looking exactly how I wanted it
[08:48] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: kay, but that doesn't install "xvnc"...?
[08:48] <baktaah> Because I want to make a fully Max OSX looking Linux dist...... so I was thinking wich one would make it best, Gnome or KDE (Ubuntu or Kubuntu)
[08:48] <FringeJacket> and my friend has a completely different look
[08:48] <evfreshman2025> Is anyone good at ripping CD's to my system to i can put it on my iPod?
[08:48] <Ash-Fox> Ch1ppy, it doesn't?
[08:48] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: nope
[08:49] <evfreshman2025> I cant seem to figure out how to rip them. On Kaffene i encode them, but it wont rip
[08:49] <baktaah> FringeJacket can I see ur desktop a screenshot or so?
[08:49] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: only command I have that starts with xvnc is xvncviewer
[08:49] <heinkel_112> ibaktaah:;  think GNOME is leaner (less craving for computer) , but  I like KDE because it is very like windows and I have to use windows at work....if you need something not very resource demanding, try XFCE as in xubuntu
[08:49] <FringeJacket> baktaah I'll try, but it doesn't always like to load onto imageshack
[08:49] <baktaah> heinkel_112  I tried xfce.. didn't like it
[08:49] <evfreshman2025> Is anyone good at ripping CD's to my system to i can put it on my iPod?
[08:49] <Ash-Fox> Ch1ppy, doh, it's called 'x11vnc'
[08:49] <baktaah> heinkel_112  Actually whats more important
[08:49] <baktaah> is that
[08:49] <Ash-Fox> Ch1ppy, package is called that too.
[08:49] <tux> does anyone have any experience in installing kubuntu command line?
[08:49] <evfreshman2025> Is anyone good at ripping CD's to my system to i can put it on my iPod?
[08:49] <baktaah> I want it to look like Max OSX 10
[08:49] <baktaah> So
[08:50] <heinkel_112> baktaah: go for GNOME
[08:50] <baktaah> Will KDE or Gnome look best and closest to Max OSX 10?
[08:50] <jakkass> KDE
[08:50] <tux> baktaah: use KDE
[08:50] <assassin> evfreshman2025 "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso" copy cd.iso to ur ipod
[08:50] <heinkel_112> it is GNOME
[08:50] <jakkass> KDE defintely
[08:50] <kai> does any one here efficient java programmers?
[08:50] <FringeJacket> KDE
[08:50] <baktaah> lol everyone says everything,
[08:50] <Ash-Fox> baktaah, kde-look.org has OS X style and things.
[08:50] <heinkel_112> jakkass: oiut of the box GNOME is much more like MAcOS
[08:50] <tux> baktaah: make a panel at the bottom, make it less wide, add some transpirancy and you're done
[08:50] <baktaah> tux well I got that as GNOME.
[08:50] <baktaah> however
[08:51] <tux> :p
[08:51] <Ash-Fox> Seriously, stop it with Gnome, this is #Kubuntu, for Kubuntu, which is for KDE
[08:51] <jakkass> heinkel_112:  KDE looks way more like OSX
[08:51] <kai> Any one have any idea how to run a .jar from with in an application
[08:51] <baktaah> Ash-Fox read what I write instead.
[08:52] <Ash-Fox> baktaah, you can get KDE to look exactly like OS X, including the menubar above. No idea about Gnome's capabilities.
[08:52] <assassin> aktaah - do a google search on OSXbar. closest i could got to a mac look
[08:52] <baktaah> Guys could I have some screenshots from ur desktops :) ?
[08:52] <tux> where can i put them
[08:52] <tux> the screenshots
[08:52] <Ash-Fox> No.
[08:53] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: 31/03/2007 11:52:16 failed to create rfb screen.
[08:53] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: :S
[08:53] <Ash-Fox> http://www.kde-look.org/ go hear for snapshots.
[08:53] <Ash-Fox> *here
[08:53] <Ash-Fox> Ch1ppy, uh, let me see
[08:53] <mlc> Is this channel only for updaters?
[08:54] <Ash-Fox> Ch1ppy, try without the paramter, just 'x11vnc'
[08:54] <mlc> hello. anyone?
[08:54] <Ash-Fox> mlc, hello.
[08:55] <mlc> hi ;)
[08:55] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: oh, that worked
[08:55] <mlc> is this only fot people who upgrade to feisty?
[08:55] <FringeJacket> mlc  the channel I know of foe feisty updaters is #ubuntu+1 I believe
[08:55] <mlc> ok, I'm not one of them
[08:55] <Ch1ppy> Ash-Fox: works great now, thanks :P
[08:56] <mlc> but on top of my page stands:Test edgy->feisty upgrade
[08:56] <FringeJacket> mlc I'm on edgy
[08:56] <mlc> ok, right!
[08:56] <giaso> hi all
[08:56] <tux> im on feisty to
[08:56] <tux> just upgraded
[08:56] <mlc> wow! can I ask questions here?
[08:56] <tux> as easy as... well... dell
[08:56] <mlc> cool!!!!
[08:56] <nicoc> hello
[08:56] <tux> hm no its easier
[08:56] <giaso> jut upgraded to feisty too
[08:57] <Ash-Fox> mlc, feisty isn't out yet.
[08:57] <tux> it doesnt break down
[08:57] <mlc> ok
[08:57] <nicoc> can anyone help me?
[08:57] <FringeJacket> mlc just ask away we are the help channel
[08:57] <tux> well the beta
[08:57] <giaso> my Xorg broke
[08:57] <mlc> allright, I think of how to put it
[08:57] <tux> sure nicoc
[08:57] <FringeJacket> nicoc depends on the problem
[08:57] <tux> and mlc
[08:57] <Matt101> hello
[08:57] <mlc> I am unable to download and install .tar.gz-programs
[08:57] <nicoc> i already install kubuntu and when its booting it it says: ""target filesystem does'n have /sbin/init "
[08:57] <tux> FringeJacket: isnt it suposed to be a support channel?
[08:58] <nicoc> and then - '/bin/sh  can't access tty' 'job control turned off' -
[08:58] <mlc> I put them in a directory under <user>
[08:58] <Ash-Fox> mlc, .tar.gz files are the equilivant of a .zip file under windows.
[08:58] <mlc> yes
[08:58] <Ash-Fox> Quite simply, you can't install them, they're not installers.
[08:58] <mlc> ok
[08:58] <nicoc> help? :(
[08:59] <FringeJacket> tux yeah... but not everyone gets an answer, so I add in the disclaimer (sorry... its my work training)
[08:59] <mlc> the instruction says "./configure"
[08:59] <mlc> that works
[08:59] <tux> does one of you have experience in installing from the command line and building a system that way
[08:59] <tmbg> mlc, what are you trying to install?
[08:59] <mlc> ehm
[08:59] <mlc> anything I try to install doesn't work
[09:00] <Ash-Fox> mlc, you should be installing everything through adept.
[09:00] <mlc> lets see\
[09:00] <tmbg> I second Ash-Fox's comment
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> "should be installing everything through adept"
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> what if what you need isn't therE?
[09:00] <tux> ...
[09:00] <mlc> yes, but when I want to install something that's not in adept?
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i rest my case
[09:00] <tux> i've been asking a question for 5 times no
[09:00] <tux> w
[09:00] <Ash-Fox> Daisuke_Ido, doubleclick the .sh file and wait for the loki insaller to finish installing? :)
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> and now i have to go get groceries, take care
[09:00] <tmbg> mlc, then you go through the pain in the butt of trying to get code to compile
[09:01] <mlc> yes
[09:01] <cs178> tux: try http://www.linuxfromscratch.org they have some good step by step guides how to do it.
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Ash-Fox: that's normally not an option, as i don't play games
[09:01] <mlc> tmbg, I try it because the site says 'it's easy'
[09:01] <Ash-Fox> Daisuke_Ido, neither do I
[09:01] <soulrider> tux: you wanna install kubuntu formt he alternate CD ?
[09:01] <tux> off course i want to use a ubuntu CD
[09:01] <tux> yes
[09:01] <soulrider> ok, hold on a sec
[09:01] <tmbg> which site?
[09:01] <nicoc> nobody know how to fix that??
[09:01] <soulrider> theres probably a guide around here
[09:01] <tux> alternate, could find the correct word for that
[09:01] <Ash-Fox> mlc, what program?
[09:01] <tux> true soulrider
[09:01] <mlc> I try to installl anything from i.e. linux-softpedia
[09:02] <Ash-Fox> !softpedia
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softpedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <soulrider> !installing
[09:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:02] <soulrider> tux: what was easy!  Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:03] <briancron> hello
[09:03] <Ash-Fox> mlc, softpedia looks like a review site?
[09:03] <mlc> ok tmbg
[09:03] <soulrider> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues there are guides for all installations i think
[09:03] <Ash-Fox> mlc, I don't see a program called 'softpedia'.
[09:03] <Azmodan> I got a crash problem with Kopete, it crashes anytime someone accepts to send me a cam, it crashes. Any clue?
[09:03] <soulrider> hi briancron
[09:03] <mlc> yes Ash, and a downloadsiite
[09:03] <tmbg> Ash-Fox, it's kind of like sourceforge I think
[09:03] <Ash-Fox> Okay, again. What program are you trying to install.
[09:03] <tux> soulrider: is it hard to compile a system with the alternate CD/
[09:03] <mlc> I have xubuntu with Thunar
[09:04] <tux> well compile
[09:04] <soulrider> Azmodan: you got the latests version of kopete? also, you might want to check for bug reports
[09:04] <Ash-Fox> mlc, shouldn't you be in #xubuntu then/
[09:04] <soulrider> tux: you dont need to compile anything :P
[09:04] <mlc> yes, thats ok
[09:04] <Azmodan> soulrider: I got the version that comes with 7.04 beta but I had the same problem under 6.10.
[09:04] <mlc> ash, this is my first time in IRC
[09:04] <soulrider> tux: alternate CD is not like the gentoo alternate CD, where you need to compile everything
[09:04] <mlc> a bit overwhelming this all ;)
[09:04] <briancron> I had my wireless working on my wife's laptop using ubuntu and then I installed kubuntu-desktop and the wireless doesn't work in kubuntu... is this a known issue?
[09:04] <FringeJacket> baktaah you convinced to switch by those shots online?
[09:04] <Azmodan> soulrider: Any diagnostic tools I should use to produce the bug report?
[09:04] <tux> soulrider: how about the drivers and stuff, do you need to select them yourself?
[09:05] <mlc> ash, how do I get to #xubuntu
[09:05] <mlc> ?
[09:05] <Ash-Fox> mlc, doubleclick it
[09:05] <soulrider> Azmodan: i would look for bug reports, or people that asked that already. Try http://ubuntuforums.org someone might have had the same issue as you
[09:05] <mlc> wow
[09:05] <soulrider> tux: dont think so
[09:05] <soulrider> lol mlc
[09:05] <mlc> thanks a lot guys, I'll try my luck in #xubuntu
[09:05] <briancron> mlc - /j #xubuntu
[09:05] <soulrider> bye! good luck!
[09:05] <mlc> bye!!!!
[09:07] <soulrider> tux: i dont think youll have to select the drivers manually, as far as i know the alternate installation is the same as the live CD one, except the interface is text based
[09:07] <baktaah> FringeJacket no :(
[09:07] <soulrider> tux: you can slo just use a LiveCD
[09:07] <tux> some say you have more options with the alternate CD
[09:08] <soulrider> dont know, i havnt tried it
[09:08] <soulrider> but if youre not too experienced with linux
[09:08] <soulrider> i suggets you try the live CD
[09:08] <assassin> i agree
[09:09] <FringeJacket> I suggest live cd too, it is the best for new users
[09:10] <waylandbill> yes. use the live cd to see if the distro meets your needs (initially anyway)
[09:11] <FringeJacket> baktaah did you get my pm?
[09:11] <FringeJacket> waylandbill that is how I came to choosing Kubuntu
[09:12] <waylandbill> all operating systems should offer live cds IMHO
[09:12] <FringeJacket> yeah, I totally agree
[09:12] <FringeJacket> but then, windows would never sell
[09:13] <assassin> ya, not possible with ms
[09:13] <waylandbill> yes. I came to choose kubuntu by using ubuntu, kubuntu and simply mepis live cd's.
[09:13] <chemicalvamp> is there any way to make wireless assistant wirless LAN manager connect to network on startup?
[09:13] <firecrotch> I need some help with ifconfig
[09:14] <assassin> what's wrong?
[09:14] <waylandbill> chemicalvamp: knetworkmanager will do that. and now is default as of feisty.
[09:15] <chemicalvamp> waylandbill where should i look for it
[09:15] <chemicalvamp> bot knowsnothin about it
[09:15] <firecrotch> assassin: I'm have a block of IP addresses but only 1 NIC
[09:15] <firecrotch> *I
[09:15] <waylandbill> chemicalvamp: you have to get it from adept
[09:15] <waylandbill> !info knetworkmanager
[09:15] <assassin> ifconfig eth0 on my system shows it
[09:15] <chemicalvamp> cool ty
[09:15] <calamari> hi
[09:16] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[09:16] <firecrotch> I know that I have to set up virtual interfaces, like eth0:0, but I can't get those set up
[09:16] <chemicalvamp> heh i tried !knetworkmanager and it had nothing
[09:17] <firecrotch> Odd, now it's working
[09:17] <calamari> I'm having trouble with my PS/2 keyboard during install (alternatives cd).  I can choose off the boot menu fine, but after that my keyboard input is ignored.  Any ideas?
[09:17] <assassin> firecrotch "sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces" u'll have to add any virtual interfaces there
[09:18] <soulrider> calamari: no idea, do you have any other boot options? searching the forums would be a good idea too
[09:19] <calamari> soulrider: Install in text mode, Install in OEM mode, Install a command-line system
[09:19] <calamari> is that what you mean?
[09:19] <firecrotch> thanks, assassin
[09:19] <soulrider> well no, i meant options regarding input, let me search in the forums
[09:20] <calamari> it's weird because this is a ps/2 keyboard.. not usb :/
[09:20] <assassin> firecrotch don't forget to add the virtual intrfaces next to "auto lo" eg. "auto lo eth0:1". this will bring it up at bootup
[09:20] <genii> Someone wanted to know about booting iso images that are stored on hd directly from grub. Are they here? I found the answer to this
[09:21] <soulrider> yeah
[09:21] <chemicalvamp> i get a wierd probem once and awhile where it puts the contents of my clipboard when i type
[09:21] <soulrider> calamari: what version are you trying to install and what arch ?
[09:21] <firecrotch> assassin: Do you mind looking at my /etc/network/interfaces to see that I have it right?
[09:22] <calamari> soulrider: I've tried kubuntu x64 edgy regular and alternatives
[09:22] <chemicalvamp> e.g. hello eve#PASTED#ryone any ideas?
[09:22] <calamari> maybe I should try regular ubuntu edgy,
[09:22] <assassin> firecrotch - sure, but i have no idea how this irc works. my first time online!
[09:22] <soulrider> calamari: look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:22] <soulrider> how weird
[09:23] <firecrotch> assassin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13222/
[09:24] <calamari> soulrider: sorry, what on that page are you referring to.. see nothing about keybaords
[09:24] <soulrider> calamari: sorry, wrong link :P
[09:24] <soulrider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=375697&highlight=alternate+keyboard
[09:24] <soulrider> there, look at first and last post
[09:24] <soulrider> they might be helpful
[09:25] <assassin> firecrotch - looks good. should work. run "sudo /etc/init.d/networks restart" and then "ifconfig". u should see if it's up
[09:25] <firecrotch> alright
[09:25] <calamari> soulrider: thanks!
[09:25] <soulrider> calamari: i hope that is useful
[09:26] <phil_W> hi
[09:26] <firecrotch> assassin: No such file or directory
[09:27] <firecrotch> assassin: I got it, thanks :)
[09:27] <phil_W> i've a problem: my 5.1 headset doesn't work properly.  i can't really use 5.1. if i duplicate front there is only sound at front and rear, but the sub and the center speaker give no sound. could you help me?
[09:28] <assassin> firecrotch - ok
[09:29] <assassin> phil_W - got the same problem!
[09:29] <phil_W> :(
[09:29] <assassin> yea
[09:31] <jarn> Does KDE have a program for editing movies?
[09:31] <phil_W> kino i think
[09:32] <kristjan_> short command to restart all network interfaces/or dhcp renew?
[09:33] <N6REJ> kristjan_:  sudo /etc/init.d/network restart if I remember right
[09:33] <jarn> phil_W: It does that, but I don't think it's a KDE program... it uses GTK.
[09:33] <LjL> networking, iirc
[09:33] <phil_W> ok
[09:33] <LjL> or you could do sudo ifdown -a; sudo ifup -a i suppose
[09:34] <jarn> phil_W: But it's better than nothing :P. Thanks!
[09:34] <assassin> kristjan_ - what do u use for dhcp?
[09:34] <N6REJ> anyone here a blogging expert?  I need some education.
[09:34] <kristjan_> assassin: eth0?
[09:34] <phil_W> ^
[09:35] <assassin> <kristjan_ - it should be dhcpd or dnsmasq or bind
[09:36] <assassin> <kristjan_ - not running a server. then sudo /etc/init.d/network restart will work
[09:36] <jarn> Anyone know which is better, avidemux or kino?
[09:36] <N6REJ> assassin: sorry, I'm used to servers
[09:36] <kristjan_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart - but what if I only want to renew eth0? and not touch eth1?
[09:37] <N6REJ> kristjan_: sudo ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[09:37] <chijin> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[09:37] <N6REJ> chijin: LOL GMTA
[09:37] <chijin> :-)
[09:37] <kristjan_> and how do I renew dhcp?
[09:38] <chijin> just try that command :D
[09:38] <N6REJ> !dhcp | kristjan_
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <chijin> it'll do everything
[09:38] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrr
[09:38] <N6REJ> kristjan_:  do a man dhcp to learn more about that.
[09:38] <N6REJ> kristjan_: man is your friend, even if he does speak farsi! :{
[09:39] <chemicalvamp> *gasp* the bot doesnt know
[09:39] <N6REJ> no offense to anyone
[09:39] <assassin> N6REJ - "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" if it's not a server or on a server "sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart" (on my machine)
[09:39] <N6REJ> lol
[09:39] <N6REJ> assassin: ah ok.
[09:39] <assassin> yea. lol
[09:39] <N6REJ> ty
[09:40] <calamari> soulrider: it was my bios... had to disable usb mouse and keyboard support
[09:40] <N6REJ> man knows alot but he sure don't speak my lingo LOL
[09:40] <soulrider> cool thing you could figure that out calamari
[09:40] <soulrider> good luck witht he installation
[09:40] <soulrider> hey N6REJ
[09:41] <N6REJ> hey soul!
[09:41] <N6REJ> soulrider: how much you know about blogging?
[09:42] <soulrider> uhm nothing, i dont blog :P why ?
[09:45] <assassin> N6REJ - try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog or http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=set+up+a+blog&btnG=Search
[09:45] <chemicalvamp> is there a way i can ignore nicks joining / leaving the channel?
[09:45] <raffytaffy> can anyone tell me how truecrypt works ?
[09:45] <assassin> genii - i'm havin beer. :-)
[09:45] <soulrider> i like coffee :P
[09:46] <soulrider> had one earlier
[09:46] <skioski> hi can any1 help me install nvidia drivers
[09:46] <soulrider> but i need a bigger cup
[09:46] <soulrider> skioski: sure
[09:46] <assassin> i need a kettle
[09:46] <genii> assassin: I usually do on Saturday :) But at work
[09:46] <soulrider> first you need to install the driver, and then tell xorg to use it
[09:46] <skioski> is the a webpge or somethin
[09:46] <assassin> genii - me too but i'm the boss
[09:46] <skioski> a guide
[09:46] <soulrider> skioski: as a first step: download the drivers from the repositories, you can do that by typing "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" on a console
[09:47] <skioski> ok
[09:47] <soulrider> !nvidia | skioski
[09:47] <ubotu> skioski: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <soulrider> you can also read from there ?
[09:47] <h0ax> is kubuntu debian based ?
[09:47] <genii> assassin:  Executive privelege :)
[09:47] <genii> h0ax: Yes
[09:47] <assassin> yep!
[09:47] <skioski> ok
[09:47] <h0ax> ummmm so i can download the .deb files like ubuntu
[09:48] <baktaah> Where can I find the KDE controlpanel?
[09:48] <soulrider> h0ax: yeah
[09:49] <soulrider> we have repos like debian does
[09:49] <N6REJ> k, I need to learn what it is and why/if I want it.
[09:49] <genii> h0ax: deb packaging is used on both Debian and Ubuntu. But deb files for one may or may not always work on the other
[09:49] <assassin> baktaah: start "system settings"
[09:49] <h0ax> i cant use debian files on here some reason ....
[09:49] <soulrider> N6REJ: a blog si sort of like an online diary
[09:50] <genii> Hey is there some export filter on OO to export to a wiki format, like Kwiki etc?
[09:50] <soulrider> have you guys seen those avatars with different tuxs? like this one http://ubuntuforums.org/customavatars/avatar1_2.gif do you know where i can get some ?
[09:51] <baktaah> thanks assassin
[09:51] <baktaah> KDe is so inefficent >&
[09:51] <baktaah> not like GNOme... thats effecient
[09:51] <soulrider> nevermind, i found the answer
[09:51] <soulrider> baktaah: we like KDE :P
[09:52] <assassin> thats a sighn. i have to go. cheers! KDE still rocks!!!!
[09:56] <chemicalvamp> i got an error in adept getting a package, it think it was an important one.. what should i do
[10:01] <chemicalvamp> http:/security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.1.1 is there another location i can find this?
[10:04] <soulrider> chemicalvamp: i that isnt a valid repo
[10:04] <chemicalvamp> shoulda been http:// but thats just what my adept says
[10:05] <chemicalvamp> the download bar was empty and it said error in it
[10:05] <skioski> ok so know i need to know how to install beryl
[10:05] <skioski> any1
[10:06] <easytiger> skioski: have you tried?
[10:06] <skioski> nope i need a guide
[10:06] <easytiger> have you searched skioski?
[10:07] <skioski> yeah but i just somethin about abuntu
[10:07] <skioski> come some1 has the link to it
[10:07] <easytiger> not to be rude.. but have you tried looking with google, or on the ubuntu wiki?
[10:07] <skioski> ok
[10:07] <easytiger> it would literally take 5 seconds to find
[10:08] <soulrider> !beryl
[10:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:08] <soulrider> just pm the bot with a keyword and it will answer
[10:08] <easytiger> soulrider: do you use reddit?
[10:09] <soulrider> no easytiger whats it for ?
[10:09] <skioski> how do i know if im edgy or feisty
[10:09] <easytiger> its an aggregated news site soulrider. someone with your nick uses it
[10:10] <skioski> any1
[10:10] <bbell> who's familiar with getting an NVIDIA GeForce4 MXX 440 driver loaded in edgy?
[10:10] <easytiger> skioski: google?
[10:10] <pontiac_> Can anyone recommend a decent GUI based partition manager for a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[10:10] <bbell> tried that.
[10:10] <easytiger> !envy
[10:10] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[10:10] <skioski> can i not just type it in the consol
[10:11] <bbell> thanks.
[10:11] <soulrider> !version
[10:11] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[10:11] <soulrider> pontiac_: qtparted or gparted
[10:11] <pontiac_> Available through apt-get?
[10:11] <soulrider> easytiger: someone with this nick in this server ?
[10:11] <skioski> edgy
[10:11] <easytiger> soulrider: its not irc no
[10:11] <soulrider> yes pontiac_
[10:12] <soulrider> easytiger: where? :P
[10:12] <easytiger> http://reddit.com
[10:12] <blue|palm> does anyone know how to renable automount of usb devices... mine stopped working
[10:15] <ramiro82> hola
[10:17] <chemicalvamp> i found the repository.. but please help me figure out wich to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13232/ i dont know the difernce
[10:19] <genii> Just sudo apt-get install  kdelibs-bin and you'll be fine. It will sort out the versions
[10:20] <blue|palm> can anyone tell me how to fix my usb device automount issue... it no longer automatically mounts a usb device (flash drive, external hdd)
[10:20] <chemicalvamp> okcool thanks, and i should wait till after adept is done correct?
[10:20] <genii> yes
[10:21] <genii> Otherwise you'll get the msg about the file being locked etc
[10:21] <pontiac_> soulrider: Thanks.  gparted made more sense to me than qtparted.  Appreciated.
[10:22] <TeReL50> does anyone know how to disable the FN key on a laptop keyboard ?
[10:22] <soulrider> no prob pontiac_
[10:22] <soulrider> !es
[10:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:22] <baktaah> Did someone mention cooldock?
[10:22] <genii> TeReL50: I dunno about your laptop but on mine it's hardwired somehow
[10:23] <skioski> wget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-O- <nowiki>|</nowiki> sudo apt-key add -
[10:23] <TeReL50> genii it's annoying sometimes, i need a way to disable it whenever i want to :S
[10:23] <skioski> wots this mean
[10:24] <genii> TeReL50: I eventually resorted to prying off the key LOL
[10:24] <TeReL50> lololo
[10:24] <TeReL50> :0
[10:25] <chemicalvamp> lol why? conflicts? now im afriad to use mne
[10:25] <skioski> can1 help
[10:25] <genii> TeReL50: If yours is fairly recent it may have some bios settings for that key. My old Thinkpad doesn't tho
[10:26] <TeReL50> genii, that a cool idea, i'm gonna check out  tnx  man...
[10:26] <genii> TeReL50: Good luck
[10:26] <chemicalvamp> seriously why is the function key on notebooks bad?
[10:27] <genii> because it's on the very bottom left corner where you want to rest the palm of your left hand occasionally and trigger it by mistake
[10:27] <genii> At least thats my issue with it
[10:29] <jorge_> ois pl
[10:29] <easytiger> ive lost the menu bar in kopete.. how do i get it back?
[10:32] <jorge_> algm por aki pa teclar?
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: ctrl + M
[10:32] <easytiger> ahhh.. how did i not try that
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[10:33] <skioski> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:33] <skioski> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[10:33] <skioski> wotf
[10:36] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[10:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:36] <soulrider> there skioski
[10:37] <genii> skioski: Likely either the update manager is running, some other thing using the dpkg system is running, or it got mucked up. If the first 2 things aren't true then follow soulrider's suggestion. If one of the first 2 things are happening , wait til they finish
[10:37] <jorge_> algm tuga por aki?
[10:38] <soulrider> !pt
[10:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:42] <jorge_> kem + aki e tuga?
[10:42] <pollyo> Hello
[10:45] <jarn> What is the load average display in ksysguard?
[10:46] <pollyo> Hello
[10:47] <pollyo> Anyone use text to speech in chat?
[10:48] <JohnFlux> jam basically the number of apps that want to use the cpu at the same time
[10:49] <pollyo> Does anyone know of an official website for irkick ?
[10:50] <pollyo> !compiz
[10:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:51] <genii> You know you may need a UPS when...
[10:51] <N6REJ> genii: what really embarassing is I have a 1400w inverter, and 6 batterys one of which is 4000amp hour!
[10:51] <JohnFlux> genii: when the post office lose your parcel?
[10:52] <genii> JohnFlux: Yes, that too :)
[10:52] <N6REJ> genii: do you think its connected?  Why no of course not, its sitting out in the bus & garage where it can't be used LOL
[10:52] <genii> N6REJ: For that you deserve a flogging with a wet noodle
[10:52] <N6REJ> genii: yep!
[10:53] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with the text to speech module for gaim?  Does the window need to be active for the voice to work?
[10:53] <N6REJ> genii: transformer blew up just a half a block away, good thing everything I have is heavily protected.  Still would've been better to have it on the inverter.
[10:53] <JohnFlux> pollyo: kopete is beter :-D
[10:54] <nixternal> Bitlbee is even better!
[10:54] <pollyo> JohnFlux: Have they added Yahoo chat room support?
[10:54] <genii> N6REJ: I've had my as saved a few times by a decent UPS
[10:54] <JohnFlux> pollyo: no idea :-)
[10:54] <pollyo> JohnFlux: I'll take another look at it when they do.
[10:54] <N6REJ> genii: yeah, when I was an ISP, I had a really nice 1400W UPS and ran everything through it 24/7.  It acted as a line conditioner on top of being a ups :D
[10:55] <mati> hello
[10:55] <JohnFlux> N6REJ: do you know if they use up much power themselves?
[10:56] <JohnFlux> I have one, but I don't use it just because I suspect it will increase my electric bill ;-)
[10:56] <genii> They basically have car batteries inside. It takes about the same juice as charging your car from the garage plug
[10:56] <pollyo> Hmmm..... It looks like the thing only says the text when the gaim window is active.
[10:57] <N6REJ> JohnFlux: no, they really don't use much.  Newer ones made by reputable companies like APC are about 98% effiecent.  You have other appliances that are far more wasteful if you want to query I'll explain.
[10:58] <pollyo> JohnFlux: Do you know if kopete works with text to speech?
[10:58] <genii> N6REJ:  BTW If you need replacements, I recommend marine gel batteries
[10:59] <JohnFlux> pollyo: I thought it did, but now that I check it can't see how
[10:59] <N6REJ> genii: they are good, but there is 2 better ways.  There is a company here in Iowa that makes the largest deepcycle battery there is but its very expensive $200, thats what I bought, the BETTER solution is an aircraft battery.  They are 5kw!  But HORRRIBLY expensive.
[10:59] <genii> N6REJ: Yes, I can imagine the costs
[11:00] <pollyo> JohnFlux: I wonder if it works with KTTS
[11:01] <genii> N6REJ: I'm running 4 SmartUPS 1400 with all marine gel batteries and I basically had to sign my life away to pay for them all
[11:01] <JohnFlux> pollyo: yeah I was thinking that, but I don't see a plugin for it
[11:01] <pollyo> JohnFlux: What do I click to get into IRC with Kopete?
[11:02] <N6REJ> genii: yep!  they are crazy expensive, are you solar?
[11:02] <JohnFlux> pollyo: i think you add a new account
[11:02] <pollyo> JohnFlux; I saw something in the KTTS.
[11:02] <genii> N6REJ: Not sure what you mean by solar
[11:02] <N6REJ> are you solar dependant?
[11:03] <genii> N6REJ: No. It runs off the wall. It's for my servers and such
[11:04] <N6REJ> ah ok.
[11:04] <genii> Tho I could likely run a small house off it all for an hour or three :)
[11:06] <Tm_T> !feisty
[11:06] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu) - Feisty will be released at 0:00 UTC on April, 1
[11:06] <genii> N6REJ: If I was going to have a solar house I'd convert everything to use 12VDC anyhow
[11:06] <N6REJ> 48vdc is more efficient
[11:07] <soulrider_> genii: why do you need such a battery ?
[11:07] <easytiger> will distupgrade work this thime do you think?
[11:08] <genii> N6REJ: I figure with 12 VDC  I could just plug in cigarettle lighter adapters on occasion and 12 is a standard type voltage for automotive etc
[11:08] <Tm_T> easytiger: hm?
[11:08] <genii> soulrider What for the servers?
[11:08] <soulrider_> ah, i didnt know you had servers
[11:08] <soulrider_> my dad has an UPS on his computer
[11:08] <easytiger> Tm_T: it screwed up last time and tanked a lot of installs
[11:09] <soulrider_> its kinda cool, when we have a blackout he can still surf the net >.<
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[11:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:09] <N6REJ> genii: true, BUT, the upconversion and transfer down, for some reason is more efficient with 24v and 48v systems.
[11:09] <pollyo> What irc server are we on?
[11:10] <genii> soulrider_ I'm running at the moment about 3 email boxes, an asterisk box, 3 radius servers, 4 superstack switches, some cisco AS5200 routers and assorted other things
[11:10] <soulrider_> genii: thats in your house? =/
[11:10] <genii> Partly ,yes
[11:10] <soulrider_> uhm
[11:10] <soulrider_> what kind of connection do you have ?
[11:11] <elitehacker> hey does anyone know where i can get a p2p filesharing program to work on my intel x86 kubuntu 6.06 ?
[11:11] <genii> soulrider At home I have twin SDSL, at work an OC3
[11:11] <elitehacker> i have tried lime wire but it wont work
[11:11] <killown> linux have system of authentication iris  ?
[11:11] <soulrider_> elitehacker: frostwire
[11:11] <AZNSLD> Hey could some one help me with my apache....
[11:11] <AZNSLD> I think I mess it up badlt
[11:12] <AZNSLD> I think I mess it up badly...
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> elitehacker: frostwire
[11:12] <soulrider_> genii: thats so awesome
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> !frostwire
[11:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:12] <elitehacker> thanks
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> that is the one you want
[11:12] <soulrider_> i bet dist-upgrades are quite fast :P
[11:12] <elitehacker> verymuch*
[11:13] <elitehacker> yeah i was looking for limewire but no support for my os
[11:13] <soulrider_> genii: how much do you have to pay for your home sdsl ?
[11:13] <genii> soulrider_ When I use the local university repo it's prettyu good :)
[11:13] <elitehacker> like there was files .rpm but cannot open them in adept
[11:13] <soulrider_> elitehacker: we use DEB, not RPM
[11:13] <genii> soulrider_ Since my home connection is for work, I get it paid
[11:13] <soulrider_> cool!
[11:14] <elitehacker> k
[11:14] <soulrider_> i want a job like that
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> elitehacker: look at the page, it will link you to .deb
[11:14] <genii> soulrider_ I have to admit it's a pretty good gig
[11:14] <elitehacker> k
[11:14] <soulrider_> what is it that you do ?
[11:14] <elitehacker> yeah its downloading now
[11:14] <pollyo> JohnFlux: kopete does look different.
[11:15] <pollyo> JohnFlux: I generally use gaim.
[11:15] <genii> soulrider_ Mostly I'm the first admin that gets called at 4AM when customers are screaming :)
[11:15] <soulrider_> lol genii
[11:15] <soulrider_> i dont know if i could deal with customers
[11:15] <soulrider_> i think i would be happy enough programming
[11:16] <genii> Admiral_Chicago: :) OK I'll desist here. I am in that channel already btw
[11:16] <elitehacker> now is frost wire just like limewire rite all the same controlls so i can still edit the files under GNU?
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean edit files under GNU
[11:17] <elitehacker> liek its under the liscense
[11:17] <elitehacker> so i can do w.e to it
[11:17] <jbaloul> hi all
[11:17] <jbaloul> can anyone tell me...if i bring up kicker by itself in a different window manager...how can i bring up the keyboard language switching tool as well?
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> elitehacker: depends on what files you get...
[11:18] <elitehacker> k
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> if the files you get aren't open, you may need to follow the patents on them etc.
[11:19] <elitehacker> now i have a friend how wants to get kubuntu but his d-link DWL-G132 usb wi-fi adapter is not comming up when he boots up kubuntu
[11:19] <N6REJ> when I have the audo cd on my desktop shouldn't I be able to just say "eject" and have it auto umount and eject?
[11:19] <elitehacker> is there any linux drivers for a dwl-g132
[11:20] <soulrider_> N6REJ: when i use an audio cd that works fine
[11:20] <genii> You have to unmount then eject
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> elitehacker: have you seen this page
[11:20] <soulrider_> i just press the button and it comes out
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless
[11:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:20] <N6REJ> elitehacker: wireless is always a bit of tweaking in nix.  Its just the nature of the technology at this point.  you may need ndiswrapper.
[11:20] <N6REJ> ty Admiral_Chicago
[11:20] <N6REJ> soulrider_: hmmmmmmm
[11:20] <elitehacker> where do i get that?
[11:20] <N6REJ> soulrider_: r click eject right?
[11:21] <elitehacker> ndiswrapper?
[11:21] <N6REJ> elitehacker: click on the blue link
[11:21] <N6REJ> !ndiswrapper
[11:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:21] <elitehacker> yeah
[11:21] <soulrider_> N6REJ: i just press the button on my CD drive :P
[11:21] <N6REJ> soulrider_: :P
[11:21] <N6REJ> too far away
[11:21] <waylandbill> elitehacker: ndiswrapper uses windows drivers to run a wireless card
[11:21] <elitehacker> so do i have to make a windows driver compat. to a linux os?
[11:21] <waylandbill> !info ndiswrapper
[11:21] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:21] <soulrider_> lol, youre lazy :P
[11:22] <soulrider_> N6REJ: i soemtimes hate linux because it wont plays oem audio CDs
[11:22] <soulrider_> and it also feels like it has trouble with audio CDs in general
[11:22] <genii> the ubotu lies :) The package exists
[11:22] <soulrider_> lol
[11:22] <soulrider_> no botsnack for it
[11:22] <elitehacker> they dont have the rite device its only 122 not dwl-g132
[11:22] <waylandbill> not linux's fault. the CD's manufacturer's fault.
[11:23] <elitehacker> what happens if linux doesnt support it? :s
[11:23] <soulrider_> waylandbill: they work better in windows for me, and some CDs i have burnt myself :P
[11:23] <waylandbill> soulrider_: that's the point.. drm and the like
[11:24] <N6REJ> ok, I've got a new problem... I just stuck a windows dvd in the drive.  and kde says "a new medium has been detected type "UNMOUNTED DVD" What do you want me to do "open in new window" or "do nothing"  I know neither of those are right.
[11:24] <genii> open in a new window will usually show the contents
[11:24] <soulrider_> yeah
[11:24] <soulrider_> if you just wanna play it
[11:24] <soulrider_> open up VLC and load it
[11:24] <soulrider_> thats what i do
[11:24] <soulrider_> or kaffeine, whatever you like best
[11:25] <N6REJ> genii: I want to dupe it with k3b?  so I don't hurt the master.
[11:25] <soulrider_> N6REJ: is ti a DVD 9 or  a DVD 4?
[11:25] <N6REJ> the thing is if its not mounted its not going to do anything is it?
[11:25] <soulrider_> or dVD 5whatever
[11:25] <N6REJ> soulrider_: I have no idea?
[11:26] <soulrider_> =/
[11:26] <N6REJ> software, is all I know.
[11:26] <N6REJ> its adobe!
[11:26] <soulrider_> whats the size of the data? if its over 4.3 gb youll have to use a dual layered DVD
[11:26] <waylandbill> N6REJ: dvd playback software will usually mount it
[11:26] <elitehacker> hey where does frost wire install too?
[11:26] <N6REJ> oic
[11:26] <N6REJ> ok
[11:26] <genii> N6REJ: I'm not burning dvds enough in k3b to be helpful here. I'm a cdrecord command-line guy
[11:26] <soulrider_> oh, it hought it was video, not data
[11:26] <elitehacker> its downloading frostwire but i never sayed where and it opens Kate?
[11:26] <RavenTux> I know the uname command for the kernel version What would the command be for the distro version?
[11:27] <soulrider_> elitehacker: right clickt he linka nd hit : save link as....
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> ls_release or something like that...
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know
[11:27] <soulrider_> or save target as
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i always forget it
[11:27] <mathojojo> hello
[11:27] <soulrider_> Admiral_Chicago: for what ?
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> release version
[11:28] <elitehacker> no i clicked download on frostwire.com i clicked the idont care then it started downloading and then kate came up
[11:28] <mathojojo> sorry, i have a problem with multimedia keys, can someone help me ?
[11:28] <soulrider_> !version
[11:28] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:28] <N6REJ> apparently k3b doesn't know how to rip a dvd
[11:28] <soulrider_> elitehacker: hold on a sec
[11:28] <soulrider_> N6REJ: it doesnt:P
[11:28] <elitehacker> in kate all it shows is writting like this U6*VO=crmrHCY)9luWAZ>
[11:28] <RavenTux> thanks soulrider_ Admiral_Chicago
[11:28] <N6REJ> elitehacker: thats binary
[11:29] <elitehacker> yeah
[11:29] <N6REJ> why are you reading binary in kate?
[11:29] <elitehacker> i know but why is it comming up in kate
[11:29] <elitehacker> it comes up automatically
[11:29] <N6REJ> elitehacker: are you trying to dl a file?
[11:29] <soulrider_> yeah
[11:29] <soulrider_> it does the same for me
[11:29] <soulrider_> it attempts to open a deb file in kate
[11:29] <N6REJ> konq is hosed!  you have to tell it to save it not click on it.
[11:30] <elitehacker> no i clicked DOWNLOAD on frostwire.com then i clickd IDONTCARE then this small window comes up a download box all of a sudden kate pops up reading binary ?
[11:30] <N6REJ> r click and say save!
[11:30] <N6REJ> yeah, I don't know why konq is doing that.
[11:30] <soulrider_> elitehacker: open a console and type
[11:30] <N6REJ> its a problem with konq
[11:30] <soulrider_> wget http://www.peercommons.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[11:30] <soulrider_> thatw ill download it
[11:31] <soulrider_> the file will end upo in your home folder, then right click and install
[11:31] <N6REJ> I'm using fiesty now and don't know if it has the same problem... ALOT of stuff was fixed in fiesty.
[11:31] <elitehacker> im lost
[11:31] <elitehacker> i cant see anything
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> elitehacker: konsole says what?
[11:31] <adydas> ok i ask again what is the best way to setup a new external usb based harddrive for primary use on my machine ( linux ) but able to plug and play into windows to share media over the future..
[11:31] <soulrider_> elitehacker: type this in a console: "wget http://www.peercommons.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb" dont add the " though
[11:32] <elitehacker> k
[11:32] <N6REJ> soulrider_: wait
[11:32] <N6REJ> elitehacker: wait
[11:32] <N6REJ> soulrider_: add -nd -c to that command
[11:32] <elitehacker> yeah now its downloading?
[11:32] <soulrider_> elitehacker: linux can feel a bit weird at first, but dont get discouraged
[11:32] <elitehacker> now what
[11:32] <N6REJ> wiat
[11:32] <soulrider_> N6REJ: dont complicate things :P
[11:32] <N6REJ> wait it out
[11:33] <elitehacker> i wanna get Xubuntu
[11:33] <elitehacker> or linux on my xbox would be sick
[11:33] <N6REJ> soulrider_: I was trying not to., now its going to make a dir that is a mirror of the dir its in.
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> elitehacker: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:33] <elitehacker> no not rite now
[11:33] <soulrider_> N6REJ: i dont think so =/
[11:33] <pollyo> Have they developed ubuntu for the wii yet?
[11:33] <soulrider_> N6REJ: -c is to continue a download
[11:33] <elitehacker> lol i am running kbuntu on a 3giger
[11:33] <N6REJ> soulrider_: read man wget :D
[11:33] <adydas> anyone...
[11:34] <N6REJ> soulrider_: yeah, and -nd is "NO DIRECTORY" ;)
[11:34] <elitehacker> i have Edubuntu Kubuntu Ubuntu (all 6.06) then i have ubuntu 6.10 all for x86 intel
[11:34] <N6REJ> meaning, don't use the dir structure that is at the host.
[11:34] <soulrider_> N6REJ: im running what i pasted and its not creating a dir or anything
[11:34] <N6REJ> then wget has changed :(
[11:34] <soulrider_> lol
[11:34] <soulrider_> N6REJ: for how long have you been using ubuntu ?
[11:35] <soulrider_> well, linux
[11:35] <elitehacker> can i change linux so its not one click to open anything wow that gets anyoinh when u use windows all ur life
[11:35] <N6REJ> soulrider_: traditionally wget has always made a dir structure that is a copy of the structure from which you dl.
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> N6REJ: but without -nd you can do sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:35] <vvv> could anyone help me with my problem?
[11:35] <N6REJ> over 15 years
[11:35] <soulrider_> vvv: just ask
[11:36] <elitehacker> UTILITY NOT IN MY PATH says my ark as i am trying to install Frostwire
[11:36] <N6REJ> Admiral_Chicago: so just pipe it over to dpkg?
[11:36] <soulrider_> elitehacker: rick click, kubutnu package menu > install
[11:36] <N6REJ> Admiral_Chicago: I never thought to use -nd with dpkg
[11:36] <vvv> i am getting a error whenever i try start install a kubuntu feisty cd or dvd.. of any kind i have even tried ubuntu cd/dvd i have gotten the same error
[11:36] <elitehacker> soul whats that?
[11:36] <soulrider_> that will install it
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> i wouldn't use it, i like to wget, have the deb and chain link the command
[11:37] <N6REJ> vvv: what error?
[11:37] <elitehacker> yeah but what is kbuntu package menu?
[11:37] <soulrider_> vv what error ?
[11:37] <vvv> kind of long let me type it out... some of the spelling might be wrong since i wrote it down
[11:37] <elitehacker> whats Kbuntu package menu?
[11:37] <soulrider_> i cant believe it has been 10 months since i started using linux, and i still feel like such a newbie
[11:37] <N6REJ> Admiral_Chicago: yeah, that makes sense, but doesn't just "wget file" still make dir structure by default?
[11:37] <soulrider_> its one of the options int he meny elitehacker
[11:37] <N6REJ> !pastebin | vvv
[11:37] <ubotu> vvv: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:37] <elitehacker> int. he ment?
[11:38] <vvv>  /bin /sh : can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:38] <elitehacker> ohh in the menu
[11:38] <vvv> then on the next line
[11:38] <soulrider_> right clickt he file you downloaded and then on the option "kubuntu package meny" hit install
[11:38] <N6REJ> Admiral_Chicago: I mean I know you can make a wget.rc file to change that, but I'm speaking natively.
[11:38] <soulrider_> elitehacker: yes, im a horrible typer :P
[11:38] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[11:38] <soulrider_> elitehacker: you sure you dont wanna read the wiki? theres a small manual in how packages work in ubuntu, it would clear things up a lot for you
[11:39] <elitehacker> yeah i dont have that in my menu
[11:39] <vvv>  (initramfs) [88.722804]  ata1.01 : failed to set xfermode (err_mask)=04
[11:39] <N6REJ> Admiral_Chicago: perhaps canocial has already altered the native .rc file or wget has?
[11:39] <elitehacker> the kbuntu package thing
[11:39] <N6REJ> vvv: stop!
[11:39] <soulrider_> elitehacker: open a console and type
[11:39] <vvv> ok
[11:39] <elitehacker> ...
[11:39] <N6REJ> vvv: have you put the live cd in your system and tried that?
[11:39] <elitehacker> ?
[11:39] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure N6REJ...bbiab
[11:39] <soulrider_> sudo dpkg -i frost[tab]    ([tab]  means press the tab button)
[11:39] <N6REJ> Admiral_Chicago: k
[11:40] <elitehacker> ....
[11:40] <elitehacker> Type....
[11:40] <soulrider_> elitehacker: open a console and type: sudo dpkg -i frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[11:40] <soulrider_> thatw ill install frostwire
[11:41] <vvv> N6Rej i'm not sure what you mean. .do i have to copy and paste content from the feisty cd onto my computer before i attempt to install it?
[11:41] <elitehacker> i dont see the point in going threw all this trobble into installing a simple program for linux when windows or mac is just one click?
[11:41] <N6REJ> vvv: no!
[11:41] <N6REJ> vvv: what happens when you put fiesty cd in your computer and start your computer?
[11:42] <fox__> buenas tardes
[11:42] <fox__> de venezuela
[11:42] <vvv> i put the cd into my computer, and i boot from cd through my bios.. then the cd boots up and i press enter  to start or install kubuntu
[11:42] <vvv> the cd begins to load on the kubuntu loading screen then it just stops and that error comes up
[11:42] <elitehacker> no my Konsole is asking for a passowrd and i cant seem to type anything?
[11:42] <fox__> no tengo sonido en mi portatil con kubuntu 6.10
[11:42] <N6REJ> !es | fox__
[11:42] <ubotu> fox__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:43] <N6REJ> vvv: are you using a laptop?
[11:43] <fox__> thank
[11:43] <N6REJ> fox__: np
[11:43] <soulrider_> elitehacker: youre actually typing
[11:43] <soulrider_> but it just doesnt show ou
[11:43] <soulrider_> you*
[11:43] <elitehacker> yeah
[11:43] <elitehacker> nvm my font is changed
[11:44] <elitehacker> i changed the whole look of my kubuntu but forgot about my txt being black
[11:44] <vvv> no i'm using a desktop. i have burned off a bunch of ubuntu and kubuntu cds.. i only seem to be able to install 6.10 of kubuntu and ubuntu.. feisty just won't load for me.. i keep getting that error
[11:44] <N6REJ> vvv: ok, then the best place for you to go now is #ubuntu+1  They are handling the fiesty special stuff
[11:44] <elitehacker> hey can i run linux of a pendrive?
[11:44] <elitehacker> lmao
[11:44] <N6REJ> elitehacker: yep!
[11:44] <elitehacker> lol
[11:45] <elitehacker> how much space of a pendrive do i need
[11:45] <N6REJ> elitehacker: you can run *nix on a floppy!
[11:45] <elitehacker> whats that?
[11:45] <vvv> thank you very much N6Rej
[11:45] <elitehacker> how much space of a pendrive do u need?
[11:45] <elitehacker> 2.1gb?
[11:45] <N6REJ> vvv: np
[11:46] <steve_> how can I make kmail's composer wrap when it hit the right border of the composer window instead of scrolling hortizontally (don't want to use the wrap feature, it's not the same thing )
[11:46] <elitehacker> now it says frostwire is installed but yet its noware to be found??
[11:47] <soulrider_> elitehacker: type forstwire in a console
[11:48] <steve_> anyone knows how can I make kmail's composer wrap when it hit the right border of the composer window instead of scrolling hortizontally (don't want to use the wrap feature, it's not the same thing )
[11:48] <soulrider_> elitehacker: i suggest you read this guide, it will help ypu understand things better
[11:48] <soulrider_> !installing | elitehacker
[11:48] <ubotu> elitehacker: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:48] <soulrider_> read the first link
[11:51] <elitehacker> how would i beable to boot up a pendrive when my bios only supports IDE?
[11:52] <elitehacker> I dont have JRE
[11:52] <elitehacker> when i typed in frostwire
[11:53] <N6REJ> elitehacker:  you need to read up on *nix.  read those links soulrider_ gave you.
[11:53] <elitehacker> i have to install java
[11:53] <N6REJ> yep
[11:53] <N6REJ> its not hard
[11:53] <elitehacker> how come the linux i know doesnt have the penguin in this one?
[11:54] <elitehacker> i dont know wich on to download?
[11:54] <elitehacker> linux x64?
[11:54] <N6REJ> !info begginer
[11:54] <ubotu> Package begginer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:54] <elitehacker> self etracting linux?
[11:54] <elitehacker> lol
[11:54] <N6REJ> elitehacker: your asking questions without reading.  Your going to make people upset
[11:54] <elitehacker> i am only using linux untill nxt week until i get my windows back
[11:54] <N6REJ> soulrider_: ever used k9copy?
[11:55] <elitehacker> well i know but i am almost done
[11:56] <soulrider> elitehacker: listen upo man
[11:57] <soulrider> its important to read the link i gave you
[11:57] <elitehacker> what link?
[11:57] <soulrider> it will teach you about installing programs, and its rather different than in windows
[11:57] <soulrider> this one
[11:57] <soulrider> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[11:57] <elitehacker> yeah thats the prob?
[11:57] <elitehacker> they copy windows but make installing stuff a whole nother story
[11:57] <soulrider> hol don, not that one
[11:58] <soulrider> copy windows? wtf?!
[11:58] <Sanne> elitehacker: you might also want to look at this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[11:58] <elitehacker> yeah
[11:58] <elitehacker> they even copy photo sho[
[11:58] <dwidmann> Copy windows? No, not really. And if you've payed attention lately, Windows isn't really all the original. Windows Copies Mac.
[11:58] <elitehacker> shop and mozilla and call it there own Konqureor
[11:58] <elitehacker> photoshop*
[11:59] <soulrider> oh god
[11:59] <soulrider> please
[11:59] <soulrider> elitehacker: ever used a MAC ?
[11:59] <elitehacker> yeah
[11:59] <soulrider> apparently not
[12:00] <elitehacker> lol they all copy each other
[12:00] <soulrider> im just gonna stop talking for a while
[12:00] <elitehacker> Open office icon for loading looks very similar to OHHHHH yeah Adobe!!!
[12:00] <usamahashimi> hello everyone
[12:00] <usamahashimi> can i install upstart in dapper?
[12:01] <soulrider> !info upstart
[12:01] <ubotu> upstart: event-based init daemon. In component main, is required. Version 0.2.7-7 (edgy), package size 91 kB, installed size 300 kB
[12:01] <soulrider> usamahashimi: you know how to apt-get ?
[12:01] <genii> !info upstart dapper
[12:01] <ubotu> Package upstart does not exist in dapper
[12:01] <elitehacker> wow my .bin files are now getting opend up in kate?
[12:01] <soulrider> oh ym
[12:02] <usamahashimi> soulrider: yes
[12:02] <soulrider> usamahashimi: let me see if somoene posted int he forums about it
[12:02] <usamahashimi> soulrider: but apt-cache search upstart is not finding it
[12:02] <elitehacker> ughh i cant seem to get java installed rite?
[12:02] <usamahashimi> soulrider: ok, i also checked but can not find anything
[12:03] <elitehacker> there's no program to open up .bin
[12:03] <soulrider> oh
[12:03] <soulrider> usamahashimi: are there any alternatives you can use?
[12:03] <genii> usamahashimi: Yes, that's because it only started being packaged with edgy. there may be a backport later. but there is not one yet
[12:03] <soulrider> either that or compile it yourself
[12:03] <Sanne> elitehacker: install java from the ubuntu repositories
[12:03] <elitehacker> whats that?
[12:04] <soulrider> Sanne: he doesnt seem to want to read the docs, also, hes just using ubuntu for a week. Oh, and we copy M$
[12:04] <usamahashimi> soulrider: i tried init-ng but no improvement in boot time
[12:04] <usamahashimi> genii: ok thanks
[12:04] <Sanne> elitehacker: explained int he link I gave you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[12:05] <elitehacker> give me nothing about .bin files?
[12:05] <Sanne> soulrider: yeah, I noticed. I'm having some frustration allowance left, so I'm still trying to help. ;)
[12:05] <dwidmann> usamahashimi: You're not going to see a truely significant improvement by installing upstart in dapper. The great pains it would likely take to get it installed in dapper would probably outweigh any benefits.
[12:05] <elitehacker> That link gives me nothing about .BIN FILES
[12:05] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: ok, it means i have to forget it for the time being
[12:05] <Sanne> elitehacker: that link explained some fundamentals about using Kubuntu. You can install java from the ubuntu repositories.
[12:05] <dwidmann> elitehacker, pull up a terminal, type in "./filename.bin" (substituting filename with the name (and if necessary path) of the file
[12:05] <adydas> is the following mounted with use of ntfs-3g
[12:06] <adydas> this /dev/sdc1 on /media/usbdisk type ntfs
[12:06] <elitehacker> see? why cant i just download it instead of going threw programs?
[12:06] <dwidmann> elitehacker: .bin files are usually archives with built in shell scripts.
[12:06] <Sanne> elitehacker: if you execute a bin file that's not from the official repositories, you might run into trouble if you don't know about the fundamentals.
[12:07] <elitehacker> yeah but its from JAVA them selves i dont even know if my os even suports Linux self extracting thats all it sayed
[12:07] <genii> elitehacker: editing 1 line in the apt mirror file then installing it is not exactly difficult
[12:07] <Sanne> elitehacker: linux is different. Don't try to use it assuming it is just another kind of windows. It isn't. You need to be willing to learn a bit, just like you did when you started with windows.
[12:07] <adydas> what controls automount if its not in fstab ( i belive its somthign to do with pmount )
[12:08] <elitehacker> yeah but why cant they have it done for u?
[12:08] <soulrider> genii: hes too lazy to read the small docs on installing
[12:08] <genii> less difficult for example than finding the exact version you need, downloading, chmoddding running etc etc etc
[12:08] <soulrider> and seems to be ignoring most of our comments
[12:08] <jarn> In  xorg.conf, Option "GLX" "enable" is for compiz, yes?
[12:08] <Sanne> elitehacker: kubuntu has a lot done for you, just not in the same way that you are used from windows. Read the link I gave you, it is expalined in there. I stop now, have fun.
[12:08] <soulrider> !wireless
[12:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:09] <adydas> does pmount have a config, or how can i make it mount using fuse / ntfs-3g
[12:09] <elitehacker> wow i just typed in ./jre-1_5_0_011-linux,,,,,blah blah.bin and says no directory found?
[12:09] <pollyo> elitehacker: Did you check for typos?
[12:09] <dwidmann> elitehacker, weird, try doing this on it first
[12:09] <elitehacker> yeah i did i copy'd and paste'd
[12:09] <dwidmann> chmod +x filename.bin
[12:09] <pollyo> elitehacker: You might have to make it executable.
[12:10] <genii> dwidmann: He's likely not doing ./ in the dir he d/l to
[12:10] <usamahashimi> how can i block any website?
[12:10] <dwidmann> genii, I reckon so
[12:10] <dwidmann> usamahashimi: in what browser?
[12:10] <pollyo> elitehacker: Like on windows you have to click allow this program to run on this computer for some applications or dll's.
[12:10] <elitehacker> its not a app. or a .dll?
[12:10] <genii> usamahashimi: Unplug your computer from the internet
[12:10] <genii> (that usually works for me)
[12:10] <jarn> In  xorg.conf, Option "GLX" "enable" is for compiz, yes?
[12:11] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: in konqueror and firefox,
[12:11] <pollyo> elitehacker: "like"
[12:11] <dwidmann> genii: hahahahaha
[12:11] <elitehacker> yeah like on windows?
[12:11] <genii> dwidmann:  :)
[12:11] <elitehacker> nothing about like itsa .dll
[12:11] <dwidmann> usamahashimi: well, they both have adblock plugins, just add the websites address to the list
[12:11] <elitehacker> nvm i need to figure this out
[12:11] <usamahashimi> dwidmann: can I put the name of website in some file so no browser can access it?