[00:01] <eregis> tekteen hello :)
[00:21] <starfruit> is there a page like this for amd processors?  http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ParentRadio=All&ProcFam=483&SearchKey=
[00:35] <JustGeekyMe> Hello everyone
[00:36] <JustGeekyMe> new to ubuntu
[00:36] <JustGeekyMe> and need a little help with audio
[00:41] <JustGeekyMe> can anyone help with audio problem?
[01:00] <darren_> #conky
[01:01] <unsure> other than envyng qt and resticted driver man is there a way to get nvidia drivers working?
[01:11] <Anarch> My upgrade to Gutsy hangs on boot with no video.  I wanted to remove X using /etc/inittab but just discovered Ubuntu has none; googling pointed to upstart's /etc/init/jobs.d, but that dir doesn't exist either.  How can I stop X from starting?
[01:13] <genii> Anarch:   use update-rc.d to prevent gdm/kdm from starting at runlevels 2-5
[01:13] <Anarch> genii: Thanks, investigating that.
[01:15] <valmont> Bonsoir
[01:15] <bazhang> !fr
[01:15] <valmont> sorry thx for the link
[01:23] <__mikem> Hey, I have the volume maxed out, and I can just barely hear the sound. The sound is unmistakably there but its too low to understand spoken words
[01:25] <micro> hola...
[01:27] <unsure> other than envyng qt and resticted driver man is there a way to get nvidia drivers working?
[01:27] <unsure> I have no sound and no graphics drivers both nvidia
[01:32] <`Onyx> Hi guys, my firefox crapped itself for some reason and I was wondering how to un-install it?
[01:33] <unsure> onyx open ur package man search for firefox right click on it select the un install option u want click aply
[01:34] <unsure> thats the easest way
[01:34] <`Onyx> How sure are you about that?
[01:34] <`Onyx> Terrible joke
[01:34] <`Onyx> Thanks unsure :P
[01:34] <unsure> np
[01:36] <genii> `Onyx: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox           might be what you want. You'll need also to remove ~/.mozilla/firefox manually as well
[01:37] <`Onyx> Then I can simply re-install?
[01:37] <`Onyx> How come I can't do it unsure's way?
[01:38] <unsure> the way i said only gets rid of it so u dont see it, un installed but not gone... it is true you will need to remove the file genii said to totally remove it
[01:39] <`Onyx> Ah right
[01:39] <`Onyx> Will there be any problems during re-install after that?
[01:39] <unsure> yes you can re install it
[01:39] <`Onyx> Alrighty
[01:40] <`Onyx> Thanks
[01:40] <`Onyx> Also if I wanted to backup my bookmarks, which folder would I have to save?
[01:41] <unsure> depends on how you have it set up....
[01:41] <`Onyx> Purely the bookmarkbackup folder?
[01:41] <`Onyx> I don't think I did anything out of the ordinary
[01:44] <genii> `Onyx: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html         is all your firefox bookmarks
[01:45] <genii> It's a file, not a folder
[01:45] <`Onyx> Ah right
[01:45] <Slartibartfast> `Onyx: mv ~/.mozilla ~/oldmozilla-dir ... and try to startfirefox again ... see if it  works ok
[01:45] <`Onyx> Those bookmarkbackup's must have been previos exports
[01:45] <`Onyx> Previous*
[01:46] <Slartibartfast> `Onyx: If it works ok you can import from oldmozilla-dir
[01:48] <`Onyx> This is so confusing D:
[01:48] <Slartibartfast> `Onyx: you really have to do a lot of not-so-smart things to get the system files of firefox messed up
[01:49] <Slartibartfast> if you just move the old .mozilla dir to a backup ... like oldmozilla-dir
[01:49] <`Onyx> I havn't done anything not-so-smart yet, but I fear I will
[01:49] <Slartibartfast> in you home folder
[01:50] <Slartibartfast> /home/Onyx/.mozilla/ ..... or whatever your username is
[01:50] <`Onyx> Yeah I'll back it up now before I go on
[01:51] <Slartibartfast> `Onyx: just use mv .mozilla oldmozilla-dir... it will rename .mozilla to oldmozilla-dir
[01:52] <`Onyx> I already did it, thanks
[01:52] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, hey, could you help me, my volume is maxed out, but I can't hear it well enough to understand people talking on youtube clips
[01:52] <Slartibartfast> `Onyx: and see how firefox works now
[01:53] <Slartibartfast> __mikem: have you tried open kmix ?
[01:53] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, I can't find it in kde4.2
[01:54] <Slartibartfast> __mikem: as i understand there are different volume settings ...
[01:54] <Slartibartfast> __mikem: mmm you don't have a speaker icon in your systemtray?
[01:54] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, thanks, that made it a bit better
[01:54] <leonardocezar> alguem do brasil?
[01:54] <Slartibartfast> !br
[01:55] <unsure> other than envyng qt and resticted driver man is there a way to get nvidia drivers working?
[01:56] <Slartibartfast> unsure: maybe you can just install the nvidia package you want ...
[01:56] <`Onyx> Awesome Slartibartfast, it worked a charm ;)
[01:56] <Slartibartfast> `Onyx: OK ... now you can import the old bookmarks from oldmozilla-dir .....
[01:57] <`Onyx> Thanks a bunch :D
[01:57] <Slartibartfast> :-) np
[01:57] <unsure> from niviad.com right?
[01:58] <unsure> if that is the case I can not get any of them to work either..... the 8200 chipset is not listed. I had this all working beofer
[01:59] <unsure> nividia.com*
[01:59] <Slartibartfast> unsure: i more thought about see what is available with "dpkg -l nvidia*"
[01:59] <unsure> ah...
[02:00] <Slartibartfast> unsure: apt-cache search nvidia also will show a lot of packages ...
[02:00] <unsure> no packages found matching nvidia
[02:00] <Slartibartfast> unsure: and apt-get search ??
[02:01] <unsure> reading the list now
[02:01] <Slartibartfast> unsure: if you do "apt-cache show package_name" you will see more info about it
[02:02] <unsure> it looks as if I have the drivers downloaded but not installed....
[02:02] <unsure> nvidia 173 177 180 and 96.... very strange
[02:03] <Slartibartfast> unsure: search will not show what is installed
[02:03] <demi> im trying to compile soemthing but i get this error when configuring it.
[02:03] <Slartibartfast> apt-cache search will show what can be installed
[02:03] <demi> configure: failed program was:
[02:03] <demi> | /* confdefs.h.  */
[02:03] <demi> What does that mean?
[02:04] <`Onyx> Alrighty. Bookmarks are back and all is good once more. Thanks again Slartibartfast and others
[02:04] <Slartibartfast> `Onyx: :-) glad it worked for you
[02:05] <unsure> I know I need the nvidia 177 modaliases driver but I can not get the restricted driver manager to work same with envyng qt
[02:05] <unsure> i used envyng qt last time and it worked like a charm
[02:05] <basti> unsure, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic-$(uname -r)
[02:06] <basti> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:06] <unsure> in the unmae do I nmae it nvidia?
[02:07] <unsure> kinda new to doing comand line
[02:07] <basti> no, this tells apt-get which kernel you use
[02:07] <basti> type in: uname -r and you will see the output
[02:07] <Slartibartfast> uname -r gives as output here 2.6.27-12-generic
[02:08] <unsure> generic-2.6.27-11-generic
[02:09] <basti> unsure, when you installed the modules you have to reboot
[02:09] <unsure> nothing installed
[02:10] <unsure> it said couldn not find package
[02:10] <basti> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic-$(uname -r)
[02:10] <unsure> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-generic-2.6.27-11-generic
[02:11] <Slartibartfast> basti: because he probably need  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-11-generic
[02:12] <Slartibartfast> unsure: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:13] <basti> you are right ^^
[02:13] <unsure> same thing couldnt find it
[02:13] <Slartibartfast> unsure: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-11-generic
[02:13] <unsure> this chipset is a pain in the ass
[02:14] <unsure> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-11-generic
[02:14] <basti> sudo apt-get update
[02:15] <unsure> went thu the list and didnt do anything I am to the best of my knowlage up to dater
[02:15] <basti> now type in that command again
[02:15] <basti> bzw use the arrow
[02:16] <basti> bzw = resp ;)
[02:16] <unsure> still the same thing
[02:16] <basti> nopaste your sources.list
[02:24] <Slartibartfast> :-( and that while the GeForce 8200 is just mentioned as supported by the 177 driver
[03:12] <slerder> Hey guys. Is there anyway a usb flash drive, when inserted into a ubuntu 8.10 machine autorun malicious code and infect my ubuntu box? Thanks
[03:13] <trappist> slerder: nope, ubuntu won't autorun anything
[03:16] <Adola> Hi!  What's some good software to use to manage an ipod on Linux?
[03:16] <Adola> Kubuntu more specifically :P
[03:19] <goofey> Adola: supposedly Amarok can work with an ipod, but only the older ipod's work with linux (i think)
[03:19] <goofey> ubottu: !ipod | Adola
[03:21] <Adola> goofey: Yeah, I'm installing gtkpod or something like that :)
[03:23] <goofey> Adola: I think gtkpod will pull in a bunch of gnome apps unless gnome is already installed
[03:32] <jaem> I'm trying out the ARM version of Kubuntu Jaunty, and plasma is failing to load on login.  Unfortunately, my N810 doesn't have the hardware keys to be able to do anything about that once it happens
[03:35] <jaem> however, plasma doesn't display a "crashed" notification
[03:36] <jaem> it just doesn't seem to load
[03:36] <jaem> any ideas?  I'm rebooting into the other install to check the logs
[03:37] <Slartibartfast> jaem: #ubuntu+1 is for jaunty discussions
[03:38] <jaem> Slartibartfast: sorry - I forgot
[03:38] <jaem> my mistake
[03:40] <Arky44_> What exactly does the "zoom out" function do (under the top-right cashew) and is there a way to get rid of the multiple desktops that appear?
[03:40] <jaem> Arky44_: it's called "Activities"
[03:41] <jaem> essentially like virtual desktops, but for widgets instead of windows
[03:41] <jaem> check the userbase wiki page
[03:41] <Arky44_> Aha.
[03:41] <jaem> as for getting rid of them, there should be a button for that - let me check
[03:41] <Arky44_> And thus the activity bar :)
[03:42] <jaem> indeed
[03:42]  * jaem gives Arky44_ a gold star
[03:42] <jaem> :P
[03:42] <Arky44_> Hehe
[03:43] <Arky44_> It's all that public schooling paying off :P
[03:43] <edelweiss> )
[03:45] <Arky44_> Where is this fabled button?
[03:45] <Arky44_> Nvm got it :)
[03:46] <Arky44_> How unintuitive is a red "X", right? :P
[03:47] <davidjheinrich> hi all
[03:48] <davidjheinrich> does anyone here know how to tile/cascade windows in KDE 4.1 or 4.2?
[03:52] <jaem> davidjheinrich: do you mean like a TWM, or just as a one-time action?
[03:52] <Anarch> How can I tell what runlevel I'm currently in?
[03:53] <Anarch> Duh, there's a `runlevel`; disregard.
[03:55] <hix> ;)
[04:14] <mario_> hola
[04:15] <mario_> ????
[04:40] <gen4> aiii
[05:14] <thumper> can someone please tell if it is possible to srt the results when searching in adept-manager?
[05:14] <thumper> s/srt/sort/
[05:14] <thumper> I'd really like alphabetical order
[05:14] <thumper> is that too much to ask?
[05:15]  * thumper wanders off, but will check the plethora of responses later
[05:56] <Anarch> `man xorg.conf` doesn't clarify what to change to alter the default screen resolution.  I'm using the Gutsy livecd 1280x1024 xorg.conf.
[06:37] <gartral> how do i tell k3b to ignor the fact that a single layer DVD is 4.4 gig? (i have expanded Philips disks of 4.7 gb)
[06:44] <Guest82247> hi
[06:53] <gartral> how do i tell k3b to ignor the fact that a single layer DVD is 4.4 gig? (i have expanded Philips disks of 4.7 gb)
[06:55] <test> hi
[06:55] <gartral> hi test
[07:01] <xp-killer> how to get firefox as my default browser?
[07:05] <doleyb> xp-killer: Settings, personal, default applications
[07:17] <gartral> how do i tell k3b to ignor the fact that a single layer DVD is 4.4 gig? (i have expanded Philips disks of 4.7 gb)
[07:18] <noren> gartral: go to k3b setting advanced
[07:21] <gartral> noren: i don't have and disk size related options under "Advanced" in settings
[07:22] <noren> just allow overburning
[07:24] <gartral> it still want duoble layer media
[07:24] <gartral> wants*
[07:24] <gartral> double *
[07:29] <shaka> ls
[07:30] <shaka> exit
[07:37] <jePPeG_> How do i find out what kde version i have installed?
[07:38] <xt> jePPeG_: help=>about
[07:38] <jePPeG_> Thanks. Is 4.1.4 the latest version?
[07:40] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: there are newer versions ... but they just need a different way of installing
[07:41] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: just depends on what you want and/or need
[07:41] <jePPeG_> Ohh. Dosent seeem to get installed when i try apt-get upgrade =/
[07:41] <Slartibartfast> thats what i said ... a different way of the default way to install things
[07:43] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: If you have now intrepid running you can enable the "unsupported updates" in the sources section of Adept
[07:43] <jePPeG_> So how do i install the latest kde? And is there any reason not to use the latest version?
[07:43] <jePPeG_> Ok
[07:44] <Slartibartfast> The unsupported option will install kde 4.2 ...
[07:44] <Slartibartfast> But there is already a kde 4.2.1
[07:44] <jePPeG_> Thats the version i want hehe :) The latest one.
[07:44] <Slartibartfast> which is not even in unsupported but still in an experimental ppa
[07:45] <jePPeG_> Ok. But ut states it's released alreade?
[07:45] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: But you will most likely get errors and crashes
[07:46] <jePPeG_> Damn. I gues the best thing is to w8 until ubuntu releases is on the supported packages.
[07:47] <Slartibartfast> KDE released kde 4.2.1 yes ... but it does not mean Kubuntu can offer packages without bugs
[07:48] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: or wait for Jaunty to go live ... or install Jaunty and don't care about the crashes :-)
[07:48] <Slartibartfast> and help report bugs
[07:48] <jePPeG_> Whats Jaunty :)
[07:49] <Slartibartfast> the next
[07:49] <Slartibartfast> !jaunty
[07:53] <jePPeG_> Well that sounds nice. But i think my linux skills need to be improved before i go for a beta dist =/
[07:55] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: But then it is maybe also not a good thing to install KDE 4.2.1 on your desktop now ... because there is a good chance things will break ...
[07:56] <Slartibartfast> if you really want kde 4.2 ... i would advice you to just install kde 4.2.0 from the backports
[07:56] <jePPeG_> Thats true. I yust need to w8 i guess :)
[07:57] <Slartibartfast> Kde 4.2.0 is already a big improvement from kde 4.1.4 ... but there is not that much difference between 4.2.1 and 4.2.0
[07:58] <jePPeG_> So it's "safe" to go for 4.2.0?
[08:00] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: Yes ... i think it is ... :-) ... but things can go wrong, the option in adpet is called "unsupported updates"  ... but if you want to learn more maybe you can just try ...
[08:00] <Slartibartfast> adept*
[08:00] <beardbar> JePPeG_: ive been running it for about a week with little problems. its pretty fantastic imho.
[08:01] <jePPeG_> I guess the best way to learn is to take some risks :) Thanks for all the help!
[08:01] <jePPeG_> beardbar, then im gona give it a shot!
[08:01] <roved2101> JePPeG_ personally for laptop use I found it a bit lacking. But for desktop was ok
[08:02] <beardbar> guys: xserver crashed while kpackagkitt was 70% done, i relaunched kpackagekit and it says no updates available. should i be worried?
[08:02] <jePPeG_> Im using a desktop. :)
[08:02] <Slartibartfast> jePPeG_: Adept -> Edit Sources -> Updates tab -> Unsupported Updates .......
[08:02] <beardbar> jePPeG_: me too http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~draydus/beardbar/springcleaning-commandcenter.jpg
[08:03] <roved2101> but overall was well implemented for kubuntu 8.10. very stable
[08:05] <Slartibartfast> beardbar: maybe just run sudo "apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in terminal ...
[08:05] <Slartibartfast> 1st sudo also before apt-get
[08:05] <beardbar> right, i'll have go Slartibartfast
[08:06] <noren___> beardbar: run the update again
[08:06] <beardbar> yep says all good there too, just freaks me out it wasnt completed downloading and installing when i crashed
[08:07] <noren___> beardbar: i lost kdm wen that happened to me
[08:08] <Slartibartfast> beardbar: maybe the gui crashed but the processes just finished the taskes
[08:08] <beardbar> Slartibartfast: agreed
[08:46] <rehman> hi every one
[08:47] <rehman> please any expert here.
[08:47] <rehman> konqueror is not browsing. please help.
[08:47] <Mamarok> !help
[08:48] <Mamarok> rehman: you should be a bit more precise
[08:49] <rehman> Mamarok  i mean all other programs which use internet connection are running but konqueror is not opening any page.
[08:49] <Mamarok> rehman: if I say precision, I ment what version of Kubuntu/KDE are you using? and what is the website you try to browse?
[08:50] <rehman> Mamarok: i am using kubuntu 7.10. and there is no page is being opened.
[08:51] <Mamarok> and what error message does it show?
[08:53] <beardbar> when i get a blocked udpate, is there a way to tell why its been blocked?
[08:54] <rehman> Mamarok: there is a two line error.
[08:55] <rehman> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[08:55] <rehman> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[08:55] <rehman> but firefox is running successfully
[08:57] <Mamarok> rehman: try copy-paste a web address from Firefox to Konqueror
[09:00] <rehman> Mamarok: i tried but to no avail.
[09:01] <Mamarok> rehman: did you change something in the Konqueror settings, or did you add/remove a package ?
[09:01] <lutiusveratius> !network
[09:01] <lutiusveratius> !eth
[09:02] <Yves__> Hi, are "google gadgets in plasma" not available in jaunty?
[09:02] <dennda> Does anybody happen to know where in KDE4 I can set Firefox as default browser and not Konqueror?
[09:03] <Yves__> I got them on debian experimental since a while. The gadget browser can be launched from the "add widgets"-dialog
[09:03] <Mamarok> dennda: go to System Settings -> Default applications
[09:04] <Yves__> And another topic for the devs: webkitkde got a lot of commits recently! upgrade to recent svn! :)
[09:04] <lutiusveratius> Does anyone know is settings for PPPoE lost in 8.10 version,so it can be done only through terminal??
[09:05] <dennda> Mamarok: I'm sorry, I'm just plain blind... Thanks
[09:05] <lutiusveratius> Mamarok : Do you know is settings for PPPoE lost in 8.10 version,so it can be done only through terminal??
[09:06] <Mamarok> dennda: you are welcome :)
[09:07] <Mamarok> lutiusveratius: sorry, I never used PPoE so far, did you search for the package to be installed?
[09:08] <lutiusveratius> Mamarok : There is no option for PPPoE in KDE Network manager. In 8.04 there was option,and now nothing... I have done setup through pppoeconfig in terminal, but I would like to know is there some tool for it too
[09:09] <Mamarok> lutiusveratius: as I said, never used it before, and I'm already on Jaunty, so my cache search is not necessarily helpful
[09:09] <Mamarok> !ppoe
[09:09] <Mamarok> !pppoe
[09:09] <lutiusveratius> Mamarok : Ok...I'll try with that page from bot
[09:11] <lutiusveratius> Mamarok : I saw that before,and done that... but not tool in networm manager... thanks for help anyway ;)
[09:21] <maik_> has someone experiences with TrueCrypt, i have corrpted the TrueCrypt bootloader in the MBR
[09:21] <maik_> there is a rescue Disk
[09:21] <maik_> but it doesn't works on my system
[09:22] <maik_> there is only one message
[09:22] <maik_> TrueCrypt Disk error
[09:22] <maik_> Loader Damaged
[09:22] <maik_> Use Rescue Disk: Repair Options > Restore TrueCrypt Boot Loader
[09:23] <maik_> after that message nothing happen
[09:23] <maik_> i can enter my password or do something else
[09:24] <maik_> I have 8GB RAM - could it be to much to handle by true crypt Rescue disk
[09:24] <Mamarok> maik_: I don't remember TrueCrypt to be in any Ubuntu repo AFAIR
[09:25] <Mamarok> you might try to get help at TrueCrypt
[09:26] <maik_> i would but you can post a message in the truecrypt forum only with a commercial email
[09:26] <maik_> and there is no other support
[09:27] <Mamarok> maik_: well, that's the downside of proprietary software...
[09:27] <Mamarok> one of them
[09:27] <Mamarok> no user forums neither I guess?
[09:28] <maik_> i doesn't find anyone
[09:28] <maik_> kubuntu is my operation system but i need to use truecrypt to be compatible to windwos too
[09:29] <maik_> i doesn't find an alternative
[09:29] <nighteagle> hi
[09:30] <Mamarok> maik_: did you really search? I found that: http://forums.truecrypt.org/
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:31] <nighteagle> i tried the alpha6 yesterday, on a live cd, i have a black screen at startup, and nothing the first jaunty alpha versions was working!
[09:31] <maik_> right, thats the forum, you can regisiter there but only post a message if you have an comercial email
[09:32] <maik_> they do that to avoid spam
[09:32] <Mamarok> maik_: are you sure? I just registred with my @gmail.com address
[09:33] <Mamarok> of course if it doesn't contain a real name, it might be cinsidered to be spam, but mine works
[09:33] <Mamarok> *considered
[09:33] <maik_> registration works but in the response email there is an advice
[09:34] <maik_> Your TrueCrypt Forums account cannot be activated until the issue described in this message is resolved.
[09:34] <maik_> Unfortunately, due to excessive forum spam and other kinds of abuse, a member registered on or after January 1, 2006 cannot post if his or her forum account is associated with an email address provided by a disallowed or free-email provider (such as Hotmail or Yahoo). We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
[09:35] <Mamarok> well, then use a school address or one from your ISP, you surely have one, don't you?
[09:35] <maik_> i have one of my ISP but im from germany and it doesn't work, maybe they don't know my ISP
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> nighteagle: did you md5 check the iso?
[09:37] <Mamarok> maik_: I'm from Switzerland, my own domain, and it works
[09:37] <maik_> i have a @googlemail.com adress my it works when your adress works
[09:38] <Mamarok> you just have to send back the confirmation mail, I have two accounts by now, one with @gmail.com, one with a .ch address
[09:38] <Mamarok> you must do something wrong
[09:39] <Mamarok> maik_: also, you can search the forum without being registred, try that
[09:39] <maik_> i have already searched the forum
[09:39] <maik_> but nothing found
[09:40] <maik_> Note that you currently have a valid forum account and you can log in, but you cannot post (other activities are not restricted).
[09:40] <maik_> If you wish to post, you will need to associate your forum account with a non-free email address; for example, with an email address provided by your ISP (internet service provider), school, or employer. You can do so by changing your email address at: http://forums.truecrypt.org/profile.php?mode=editprofile
[09:40] <maik_> i will try my google account
[09:41] <magnus_> Hello everyone, I got a question.
[09:42] <magnus_> on xubuntu and kubuntu, they are OS capable of setting up as a server right? just a home server for instance?
[09:42] <bazhang> !lamp | magnus_
[09:42] <magnus_> I dont really know alot about the linux systems.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> magnus_: they are the same ubuntu but using a different default DE
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> magnus_: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde, xubntu uses xfce
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> magnus_: you can install kde or xfce and switch to the environment and you will have the other system as they are identical under the hood
[09:54] <maik_> Mamarok: did you realy get an email with activation link? i used my @googlemail.com adress and only get the same mail as before, without activation link
[09:56] <maik_> Mamarok: so i can search in the forum but not post anything, if i click "add reply" oder "new topic" i will only get a information to register an other mail
[09:57] <AndrewMohawk> can anyoen tell me of a gui wireless network app for kvwm ?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> knetworkmanager
[09:58] <Mamarok> maik_: hm, I got through with both addresses, strange
[09:58] <Mamarok> maik_: is there no other user forum elsewhere? Or maybe an IRC channel?
[09:59] <maik_> Mamarok: i try to find an other channel thx for you help
[10:37] <pugelarouge> hello - does someone have 2 minutes for what i hope is a well known issue with kde [i think]
[10:38] <pugelarouge> when i alt tab i seem to trigger something that means left click has become left click + alt
[10:38] <pugelarouge> and the keyboard is locked
[11:37] <JasonCO> Morning Folks:  im running kubuntu intrepid with kde4.2 packages installed also compiz.  for some reason i cannot get more than 2 desktops.... any one suggest what may be the problem? i set 4 and only 2 show up
[11:38] <bazhang> JasonCO, set 4 where
[11:38] <bazhang> JasonCO, you need to set 4 via ccsm
[11:39] <JasonCO> ive tried in the settings app and also on the task bar
[11:39] <JasonCO> OOOHHHHH
[11:39] <JasonCO> lemme check thanks
[11:39] <bazhang> look in ccsm general-virtual horizontal desktops <--set to 4
[11:39] <bazhang> you were likely setting desktop pager to 4 :)
[11:40] <ForgeAus> heheh I have mine set to 6 but I don't use compiz
[11:40] <JasonCO> oh much better - -THANK YOU!!!
[11:40] <bazhang> not much of a square anymore :)
[11:41] <JasonCO> that was beginning to frustrate me
[11:41] <bazhang> no probs :)
[11:45] <puddle> Hey Hey k0pp you there?
[12:14] <vbgunz> I am curious. why does KDE4 do a better job at integrating Gnome themes Vs KDE 3.5+ themes?
[12:17] <userone> hello
[12:53] <dr_willis> hmmm
[13:01] <ibrar> Any Gui Tool available in KDE for sloccount (count source code lines) command line
[13:17] <simba_> hmmm....after the last updates of kubuntu jaunty usplash craches when i am typing pass to unlock root partition.
[13:18] <bazhang> simba_, #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[13:18] <simba_> tnx
[13:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[13:58] <bazhang> hi
[14:01] <BluesKaj_> Konversation is balking at my username .I installed wubi/kubuntu on out laptop yesterday but my 'realname' is different on it than the desktop
[14:01] <BluesKaj_> out=our
[14:03] <BluesKaj_> gonna try konversation again
[14:17] <Ratchet_the_fox> hey folks i made a rather stupid mistake and need to know how to fix it.  what i did was i acidently deleted the shortcut to the trash bin from the side bar of the dolphin browser and i need to know how to replace that shortcut.  any help will be greatly aprecieated
[14:18] <Ratchet_the_fox> !trash
[14:19] <Ratchet_the_fox> :D
[14:21] <canen> greetings
[14:21] <canen> have a strange issue here. thought it was just kwin but seem to be happening in openbox too
[14:22] <canen> i can olny focus a window by clicking on the titelbar
[14:22] <canen> i haven't changed my window focusing methods, it just started happening a few days ago
[14:24] <Ratchet_the_fox> is there a way to empty the trash from Termianal
[14:24] <Ratchet_the_fox> ?
[14:25] <canen> this only  happens with Qt apps
[14:25] <Ratchet_the_fox> !emptytrash
[14:26] <Ratchet_the_fox> !helptrash
[14:26] <Ratchet_the_fox> !trashbin
[14:26] <Ratchet_the_fox> !delete
[14:26] <Ratchet_the_fox> !help
[14:26] <robin0800_> !wastebin
[14:27] <Ratchet_the_fox> !trash
[14:27] <canen> Ratchet_the_fox: use trash:/ as the location
[14:27] <Ratchet_the_fox> -_-
[14:27] <robin0800_> !waste bin
[14:27] <Ratchet_the_fox> i need to know how to empty it because i cant acess it from dolphin anymore
[14:27] <canen> add it back
[14:27] <Ratchet_the_fox> i cant
[14:28] <Ratchet_the_fox> ive tryed
[14:28] <canen> you should be able to
[14:28] <Ratchet_the_fox> and noone will helop me either
[14:28] <martijn_> am i the only dude with a non-booting system currently
[14:28] <canen> right click on the sidebar and choose "Add Entry"
[14:28] <robin0800_> Ratchet_the_fox: try dolphin
[14:29] <Ratchet_the_fox> dolphinis the problem
[14:29] <canen> Ratchet_the_fox: then in the pop up box choose trash:/ as the location
[14:29] <Ratchet_the_fox> hey folks i made a rather stupid mistake and need to know how to fix it.  what i did was i acidently deleted the shortcut to the trash bin from the side bar of the dolphin browser and i need to know how to replace that shortcut.  any help will be greatly aprecieated
[14:29] <Ratchet_the_fox> tahts my problem
[14:30] <canen> Ratchet_the_fox: or in the location bar type trash:/ it works just the same
[14:30] <canen> Ratchet_the_fox: I am telling you how to fix it
[14:30] <Ratchet_the_fox> THANK YOU :D
[14:31] <jpedroza> Ratchet_the_fox: You can also add a trash plasmoid to your task bar or to the desktop.
[14:31] <Ratchet_the_fox> jusrt did thanks again
[14:31] <Ratchet_the_fox> :)
[14:33] <robin0800_> Ratchet_the_fox: if you now open it dolphin should fire up
[14:36] <gianfree> cioa
[14:37] <bazhang> !it
[14:48] <BluesKaj> wow, what was the prob with freenode , or was it just me ?
[14:49] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: to me it seems like local issue, not freenode itself
[14:50] <BluesKaj> were you having a prob Tm_T ?
[14:50] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: not at all
[14:51] <BluesKaj> I logged on last night with the laptop, but I'm sure I logged out of freenode before I shut down
[14:53] <BluesKaj> we have 5 computers running at times now that my daughter and her 2 children are staying here for a while ...it slows things down but we've been doing this for 2weeks without any probs til today
[15:06] <sofiane> heuuu
[15:07] <Guest79130> I have the follor error: System.DllNotFoundException: gdk-x11-2.0
[15:07] <Guest79130> how can I install that dll?
[15:10] <shahram> hello
[15:10] <shahram_soft> i need help please some one help me
[15:11] <bazhang> ask a question then
[15:12] <shahram_soft> i have problem to install nvidia driver
[15:12] <shahram_soft> i recently downloaded the latest nvdia driver 180
[15:12] <shahram_soft> and try to install it but it doesnt work
[15:13] <shahram_soft> do you think it;s becuse of driver file?
[15:13] <Guest79130> I want to run a program call "youtranslate" but when I run the program I got the follow error : System.DllNotFoundException: gdk-x11-2.0, how can I solve this issue?
[15:13] <bazhang> Guest79130, a dll in ubuntu?
[15:13] <Guest79130> bazhang: is the message from the konsole
[15:13] <Guest79130> bazhang: copy/paste
[15:14] <shahram_soft> bazhang i thiks guest is robot
[15:14] <bazhang> shahram_soft, what was the command you gave, and why did you not do via hardware drivers?
[15:15] <shahram_soft> i did but i want newest vertion
[15:15] <shahram_soft> i have 177 but it's doesnt work proprly
[15:16] <shahram_soft> sh (name of file)
[15:16] <slerder> Hey guys. Just wanted to know if it was possible for a malicious file on a usb flash drive to have been autoexecuted on my ubuntu 8.10 machine upon insertion. Thanks
[15:16] <bazhang> shahram_soft, okay, and how did the install go? what command did you give
[15:16] <shahram_soft> i write sh(name of file.run)
[15:16] <bazhang> slerder, without your permission?
[15:16] <Icebuntu> slerder:  you can try claim win antivirus
[15:16] <Guest79130> bazhang: please, take a look here http://paste.ubuntu.com/133691/, there is the all description of the problem
[15:17] <bazhang> Icebuntu, what is that?
[15:17] <shahram_soft> then error is you coudnet install
[15:17] <Icebuntu> http://www.clamwin.com/
[15:17] <shahram_soft> you need to install in root
[15:17] <bazhang> Icebuntu, that is not good advice; please recommend from the repos
[15:18] <Icebuntu> ya let me see
[15:18] <bazhang> Icebuntu, dont recommend anything if you dont know what you are talking about
[15:18] <kanon-mat> slerder: why ask the same question in multiple channels?
[15:19] <magnus_> excuse me, I was just wondering, what was the command for installing and downloading something? for instance firefox. Something like sudo apt-get and then?
[15:19] <slerder> kanon-mat, to reach more people perhaps
[15:19] <Icebuntu> ya it was this one http://www.clamav.net/
[15:19] <bazhang> shahram_soft, check the /msg ubottu nvidia link; there is a link on how to do manually
[15:19] <Guest79130> magnus_: sudo aptitude install firefox
[15:19] <bazhang> slerder, crossposting?
[15:19] <slerder> icebuntu, thanks ill try it out.. i already installed it but failed to run it.. it says clamav is not a known command
[15:20] <shahram_soft> yaa TNX ;) i have forgoten to check there
[15:20] <magnus_> Guest79130 : thank you
[15:20] <Guest79130> magnus_: np ;)
[15:20] <slerder> bazhang i guess. well im wondering whether it could be done with or without me getting a message asking for some sort of privelege
[15:21] <Icebuntu> okey slerder all the best
[15:21] <bazhang> slerder, only you could trash your system
[15:21] <magnus_> Guest79130 : does this work with any kind of software i want to download and install from the internet, or how does it work really? :)
[15:21] <bazhang> slerder, it could not do a thing without your explicit help
[15:22] <Guest79130> magnus_: sudo adept
[15:22] <slerder> bazhang, thanks. so there is a way to have a script in a flash drive or some other malicious code that when inserted, would ask me for somehing and if i allowed it the system could be compromised?
[15:22] <bazhang> magnus_, sudo apt-get install packagename is the way to go (ie not from 3rd party sites)
[15:22] <magnus_> Aha okey, thank you :)
[15:22] <Guest79130> magnus_: shoud be in you kde-menu "Adept Manager"
[15:22] <magnus_> Guest79130 : yeah, but i just wondered how to do it in terminal :)
[15:22] <bazhang> slerder, what kind of script exactly? or is this purely hypothetical?
[15:23] <slerder> its hypothetical but i was thinking rootkit/trojan would be installed in the end
[15:23] <bazhang> slerder, that is the minority risk; the major risk is the (give everything out of the box!) scripts that users willingly run.
[15:24] <Guest79130> magnus_: aptitude is the command.. you can also search package, install, unistall.. after you write "sudo aptitude" press tab two times and you can see all the command
[15:24] <bazhang> slerder, what you are describing is not a credible risk
[15:24] <Guest79130> any expert know how to deal with this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/133691/ ???
[15:24] <slerder> bazhang, ok
[15:24] <slerder> thanks
[15:25] <magnus_> Guest79130 : yeah i got it to work now, was just wondering if it was so easy to download and install files. That i could only type the command and the program i wanted and kubuntu found it and downloaded it from the net itself.
[15:37] <Tehlak> hi
[15:39] <Tehlak> anyone here with experience with the ati-drivers?
[15:40] <gimox> !hello
[15:40] <bazhang> !ati
[15:41] <Tehlak> driver works, but the monitor is delivering a wrong max resolution
[15:48] <tmeixner> !xorg.conf
[15:50] <tmeixner> hm, my problem is more mouse related. My "nipple" touchpad crashes from time to time and falls back to a simple ps/2 mouse
[15:51] <tmeixner> is there a way to just restart the mouse/touchpad definition of the X Server?
[15:54] <n1c0> Hi room
[15:56] <n1c0> I've need help. Anybody know if exist any program for restore files from damaged partition in gui version?
[15:56] <bazhang> undelete?
[15:57] <n1c0> undelete? is a program?
[15:57] <bazhang> !undelete
[15:57] <ScorpKing> n1c0: i only know of cli programs
[15:57] <bazhang> n1c0, may work, though iffy at best
[15:58] <bazhang> n1c0, having backups is the only sure way
[15:58] <kanon-mat> you can try systemrescuecd
[15:58] <n1c0> thanks bazhang, now i try it
[15:58] <ScorpKing> n1c0: if the information is very important make a copy of the drive first with gnu dd-rescue (not normal dd-rescue). you might have to compile it though
[15:59] <kanon-mat> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[16:00] <Guest5729> dfsdf
[16:00] <n1c0> kanon-mat: i have it but i want any program that work into k/ubuntu desktop
[16:02] <Tehlak> hmmm
[16:02] <Tehlak> no fun with ati-drivers
[16:03] <Tehlak> ignoring everything
[16:03] <Tehlak> xrandr, mode lines
[16:03] <kanon-mat> have u tried different modelines, Tehlak?
[16:04] <Tehlak> ofcourse
[16:04] <Tehlak> with fglrx active xorg takes also 90% cpu
[16:04] <Tehlak> with no action
[16:04] <kanon-mat> xorg.conf is a bit ignored these days :)
[16:05] <Tehlak> even xrandr is ignored
[16:06] <Tehlak> and resoulutionchange with the catalyst controlcenter
[16:09] <kanon-mat> maybe wrong edid, i thought there was a way to ignore it
[16:09] <kanon-mat> cant find it atm
[16:10] <Tehlak> the problem seems to be the switch to 1080i
[16:13] <kanon-mat> seems i lack in knowledge :)
[16:16] <JasonCO> is there a way to get plasmoids to only appear on one desktop?
[16:17] <stdin> the "desktops" concept is provided by the window manager, not plasma
[16:18] <stdin> but they do only appear on one workspace
[16:18] <JasonCO> oh -- ok -- is plasma not part of the kde4 window manager?
[16:19] <stdin> no, plasma is separate. you can use any window manager you want and plasma should work regardless
[16:19] <stdin> or else you'd loose the panel and desktop with, eg, compiz
[16:23] <JasonCO> oh
[16:23] <JasonCO> bummer
[16:23] <JasonCO> ok - -thanks
[16:31] <JasonCO> thats a real shame -- it would make it so much nicer
[16:36] <mado> hello there guys and gals ...
[16:36] <rmrfslash> What makes Kubuntu's laptop power settings so different from Ubuntu?
[16:36] <rmrfslash> I notice that Kubuntu has many more settings.
[16:36] <rmrfslash> Ubuntu just lets you dim the display
[16:36] <rmrfslash> when on battery power
[16:37] <romullo> rmrslash: i think that's KDE stuff :)
[16:37] <mado> i don't have access to to two partitions on this computer ... can you help me? ... ... http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/693
[16:38] <rmrfslash> So KDE definitely does more for you than just Ubuntu
[16:38] <rmrfslash> is that correct?
[16:38] <bazhang> rmrfslash, which apps?
[16:39] <mado> /dev/sdb5 --- and --- /dev/sda5 --- are the problem ... but i don't know what i can do about it ... what do you say?
[16:39] <rmrfslash> Basically, I bought a new laptop and went back to Ubuntu from Kubuntu (cuz I noticed lots of glitchiness when running gtk apps). But I noticed on Ubuntu my battery life was terrible and remembered all the settings in Kubuntu. So I'm not going back to Kubuntu and I want to see if I get significanlty better battery life.
[16:40] <bazhang> rmrfslash, how much were you expecting, and how much are you getting?
[16:40] <rmrfslash> terrible battery life = around 1.5 hourson a 6-cell battery
[16:40] <rmrfslash> on a Dell XPS 16
[16:41] <bazhang> rmrfslash, and how much did you get, or hope to get (presumably using a different OS)
[16:42] <rmrfslash> I'm hoping for 2 hours maybe?
[16:42] <mado> any ideas?
[16:42] <rmrfslash> I mean, on my older definitely crappier laptop, I was getting at least 2 hours
[16:42] <rmrfslash> I had a Latitude 1820 or something
[16:42] <bazhang> rmrfslash, but this is a new one?
[16:43] <kanon-mat> crappier means slower, thus using less power :)
[16:43] <rmrfslash> Yes, this is an XPS 16
[16:43] <rmrfslash> I might not have the model right on the latitude
[16:43] <rmrfslash> I am fine w/ slower
[16:43] <bazhang> rmrfslash, so you were kidding about the 19hrs earlier I am guessing :)
[16:43] <rmrfslash> Yeah
[16:44] <rmrfslash> That was a misunderstanding, I thought you said "What makes a model laptop"
[16:44] <kanon-mat> there is an app called powertop that lets you know what apps that are draining power
[16:44] <bazhang> I would guess that ubuntu uses fewer resources (provided you dont use compiz)
[16:44] <bazhang> !info powertop
[16:44] <rmrfslash> pbbbtbtbt... compiz? might as well throw my battery out the window.
[16:45] <rmrfslash> I got even worse battery life
[16:45] <rmrfslash> I DONT EVEN HAVE THE ACCELERATED DRIVER ON!!! :D
[16:45] <bazhang> as kde4 has all the eye candy built in
[16:45] <bazhang> might wish to try some different combos then : lxde, openbox, fluxbox, etc, and see which suits your needs best
[16:46] <bazhang> provided that disk space is not an issue :)
[16:46] <Pollywog> I am having crashes in Kmail (KDE 3.5.10), is it still worthwhile to report bugs with this version of KDE?
[16:46] <bazhang> Pollywog, yes most certainly
[16:46] <bazhang> Pollywog, that will continue to be supported
[16:46] <rmrfslash> bazhang: Like I said, all I remember is that KDE had better options when running on battery
[16:46] <Pollywog> bazhang: using Launchpad?
[16:47] <rmrfslash> Something like "insane battery life" "good battery life" etc.
[16:47] <bazhang> Pollywog, yes; /msg ubottu bugs for more info
[16:47] <Pollywog> bazhang: ty
[16:49] <Pollywog> good to know, because I asked in kde-devel and was told that the KDE developers will not be fixing any more KDE 3.5.x bugs
[16:50] <bazhang> really?
[16:50] <Pollywog> yes I think they are now working on kde 4.x and the same kmail bug is in the newer Kmail
[16:50] <bazhang> that is hard to believe, unless it is a recent decision
[16:51] <Pollywog> I checked the KDE BTS and it is still there
[16:51] <Pollywog> but I am reading the Launchpad stuff
[16:51] <bazhang> the mailing lists?
[16:52] <rmrfslash> hmmm..... I installed Kubuntu 8.10 and got KDE 4.1?
[16:52] <Pollywog> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/190290
[16:52] <Pollywog> I think this bug is probably the same as I am experiencing:
[16:52] <Pollywog> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/190290
[16:52] <Pollywog> it happens to me when I delete IMAP mail
[16:53] <bazhang> rmrfslash, you need to enable backports to get 4.2
[16:53] <Pollywog> bazhang: I did not know I could get KDE 4.2 from backports
[16:54] <Pollywog> but if I do that in Hardy I make it unsupported, correct?
[16:54] <bazhang> or wait a short while and get the next release :)
[16:54] <Pollywog> k
[16:54] <Pollywog> thanks
[16:54] <rmrfslash> I thought 4.2 was default on 8.10
[16:54] <bazhang> err hardy? rmrfslash was referring to 8.10
[16:55] <rmrfslash> maybe I grabbed the wrong one
[16:55] <rmrfslash> :-\
[16:55] <bazhang> 4.1 on intrepid
[16:55] <JontheEchidna> KDE 4.2 will be default for 9.04
[16:55] <rmrfslash> oh....
[16:55] <rmrfslash> maybe not then
[16:55] <bazhang> enable backports for intrepid and get 4.2
[16:55] <bazhang> if you really have to have it now :)
[16:57] <Pollywog> if I report this as a separate bug (it might not be exactly like the one already reported), will I need to recompile kmail with debugging enabled?
[16:58] <Pollywog> in order to get output that is useful for the debuggers I mean
[16:59] <Pollywog> My bug involves deleting mail, the reported one involves mail moved between folders, so I think it might be a different problem
[17:00] <bazhang> Pollywog, it seems to be different; and from that report they have closed it
[17:00] <Pollywog> I will go ahead and recompile kmail with debugging enabled, thanks for your help
[17:01] <bazhang> Pollywog, sorry not to be more assistance
[17:02] <draik_> I have lost X
[17:02] <draik_> I have a black screen when I try to launch KDM
[17:03] <rmrfslash> bazhang: 4.2 is a huge improvement over 4.1.... it's worth the upgrade IMO
[17:03] <draik_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg doesn't fix it either
[17:03] <bazhang> rmrfslash, thanks for the info :)
[17:03] <rmrfslash> bazhang: Though, I never applied all the updates to 4.1
[17:04] <rmrfslash> bazhang: I'm sure you didn't need my info... but hey.
[17:04] <bazhang> rmrfslash, actually I did; still on old 4.1 here :)
[17:06] <carlos> Hola a todos!!
[17:07] <bazhang> !es
[17:07] <rmrfslash> bazhang: oh. Well yeah, I think 4.2 is a big improvement. But I don't know how much they work on 4.1. If they fix a lot of the weird glitches in 4.1 I'd prefer to stay w/ what's supported
[17:08] <lovre> does anyone have IEEExplore account? I need some pdf file: bugmenot.com
[17:08] <lovre> grrrrrrr
[17:08] <rmrfslash> bazhang: but one day I just got fed up completely and put 4.2 on kubuntu hardy and I was like "ok.... they DEFINITELY fixed some stuff"
[17:08] <lovre> this is the correct URL: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel2%2F540%2F3969%2F00150593.pdf%3Farnumber%3D150593&authDecision=-203
[17:09] <bazhang> lovre, how does bugmenot relate to kubuntu support?
[17:09] <usuario> holas
[17:09] <lovre> bazhang: that was the wrong link... i gave the correct one a few lines later
[17:10] <fran> wenas alguien de españa
[17:10] <bazhang> !es
[17:10] <lovre> bazhang: and you are right, maybe it is offtopic...
[17:10] <rmrfslash> bazhang: I just updated 4.1 actually
[17:10] <rmrfslash> let's see
[17:11] <rmrfslash> KDE definitely has more options for powersave "Frequency CPU scaling" you can apply settings when the battery power drops below say 5 mins, etc.
[17:13] <bostoncino> nnn
[17:16] <vonkleist> is there any channel for kubuntu+1 ?
[17:16] <bazhang> vonkleist, yes, #ubuntu+1
[17:17] <bazhang> both are there
[17:17] <vonkleist> oh
[17:17] <vonkleist> ok
[17:17] <vonkleist> i'm there already
[17:17] <vonkleist> thanks
[17:17] <lovre> what is +1?
[17:18] <bazhang> the next release jaunty
[17:18] <genii> +1 indicates the version which is in development
[17:18] <bazhang> always the irc channel will have next release as plus one
[17:18]  * genii slides bazhang a coffee
[17:18] <bazhang> thanks genii
[17:19] <genii> Anytime :)
[17:23] <lovre> i see. thank you
[17:23] <jcprather> so presumably it's acceptable to bring up all the kde components in kubuntu jaunty in #ubuntu+1 then?
[17:23] <jcprather> without having gnome-lovers kicking our shins
[17:24] <genii> jcprather: Yes, they have gnome,xfce and kde ppl there
[17:24]  * jcprather also thanks you for the good info
[17:32] <Pollywog> I could not find the proper line in which to enable debugging in debian/rules
[17:33] <misticwarrior> hey
[17:33] <misticwarrior> I got a little question about graphical interfaces...
[17:33] <misticwarrior> is an interface more appropriate than the others for a laptop ?
[17:33] <misticwarrior> I mean... does gnome manage power economy better than kde, etc ? or is it totally equal ?
[17:34] <Pollywog> for an older laptop that is slow, I would try xfce4
[17:34] <misticwarrior> ok but it is a new laptop... my only wish is to have a great autonomy :P
[17:34] <Pollywog> misticwarrior: then KDE or Gnome should work for you
[17:35] <misticwarrior> Pollywog: ok :P... I'll try this then :P
[17:35] <Pollywog> misticwarrior: if you are unable to install it with the LIVE CD use the alternate install
[17:36] <Pollywog> I usually need to use alternate install CD's for laptops
[17:36] <misticwarrior> ho ok
[17:36] <misticwarrior> I'll try then
[17:37] <misticwarrior> thank you a bunch !
[17:38] <b0nn> hrm, some update on my kubuntu has just bricked my laptop
[17:39] <b0nn> The laptop gets to "Starting MTA" then locks
[17:39] <b0nn> I cant get into the laptop via ssh
[17:39] <b0nn> any ideas?
[17:39] <Pollywog> b0nn: did you remove any packages?
[17:39] <inteliwasp> since the installer won't auto maticly use a free partition, what sizes of partitions do i need? i have a 1TB drive and 4GB ram
[17:39] <b0nn> no
[17:40] <b0nn> I didnt even think there was an MTA on that machine
[17:40] <Pollywog> b0nn: when you reboot, do you see an older kernel image you can boot?
[17:40] <b0nn> no, same problem occurs
[17:41] <Pollywog> try another reboot and let the MTA script time out, have you tried that?
[17:41] <Pollywog> I think I know what it is, I have had the same MTA experience
[17:42] <ct529> hi!
[17:42] <b0nn> ok
[17:42] <ct529> does anyone know what is the process pdflush?
[17:42] <Pollywog> I let it time out and continue booting then I disabled the MTA
[17:42] <TKorvus> who's on for help?
[17:42] <Pollywog> IIRC the problem was caused by the MTA trying to do a DNS lookup
[17:43] <b0nn> ok, this time it booted, finally
[17:43] <Pollywog> TK just ask your question, maybe someone will be able to help
[17:43] <b0nn> I didnt know I had an mTA installed
[17:43] <b0nn> is it sendmail?
[17:43] <Pollywog> b0nn I think Exim is installed by default
[17:43] <Pollywog> you can disable it
[17:44] <Pollywog> or fix the problem that makes it take long to finish starting
[17:44] <b0nn> ok\
[17:44] <b0nn> how do I fix it
[17:44] <Pollywog> check the logs, it might be a DNS lookyp that fails
[17:44] <Pollywog> check the logs firs to find the problem
[17:44] <Pollywog> dmesg
[17:45] <Pollywog> then check /var/log/maillog
[17:45] <TKorvus> I've got an Optiplex GX260 i'm attempting to install kubuntu on. The system will not proceed to the actual install. It will load all the files and then hang at a black screen. I've tried all options available under F6 with no avail. Does anyone have experience with this type of issue?
[17:45] <Pollywog> or mail.log I forget the name of the file
[17:46] <Pollywog> TKorvus: you could google that model
[17:46] <Pollywog> is it a laptop?
[17:46] <TKorvus> all google forums have absolutely no answers
[17:46] <TKorvus> people suggest installing other distributions or the forum dies off with no answer.
[17:46] <TKorvus> its been an ignored problem from what I can tell
[17:46] <Pollywog> TKorvus: did you use the LIVE CD to install?
[17:46] <TKorvus> Its a desktop
[17:47] <TKorvus> live cd will not load either.
[17:47] <TKorvus> hangs at same screen
[17:47] <b0nn> nothing in the mail logs
[17:47] <Pollywog> so you used the alternate install CD?
[17:47] <TKorvus> yeah
[17:47] <TKorvus> whats odd is
[17:47] <Pollywog> because the alternate install is the best way to do it
[17:47] <bazhang> sounds like either a corrupt iso, a bad burn, or the wrong boot parameters (or none)
[17:47] <TKorvus> the manufactures install will work. however it freezes when it tries to load the login screen.
[17:48] <bazhang> md5 the iso, burn at low speed, then do the disk integrity check
[17:48] <Pollywog> b0nn: you could check the bootlog, I do not recall whether the bootlog is enabled by default
[17:48] <TKorvus> the disk i have has passed the integrity check.
[17:48] <Pollywog> b0nn: Hardy or Intrepid?
[17:49] <bazhang> and the md5?
[17:49] <b0nn> Intrepid I think\current at any rate
[17:49] <TKorvus> probably doesnt help tha i'm unfarmiliar with the linux command structure
[17:49] <bazhang> !md5
[17:49] <TKorvus> what is md5
[17:49] <bazhang> see above ^^
[17:50] <Pollywog> b0nn: see the directory /etc/default/  and look for a bootlogd file
[17:50] <Pollywog> is it there?
[17:50] <makdaknife> any raid gurus around who can help me with a degraded raid-1 array
[17:50] <b0nn> yes
[17:51] <b0nn> and exim4
[17:51] <Pollywog> b0nn set it to BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes
[17:51] <Pollywog> then when you reboot, you will find a bootlog in /var/log
[17:51] <TKorvus> this is just to check iso integrity?
[17:51] <Pollywog> it will be /var/log/bootlog or similar and it should tell you where the problem is
[17:52] <makdaknife> i powered off my fileserver last night and now i get "State : clean, degraded" on my raid sets
[17:52] <Pollywog> b0nn: but I suspect it is exim trying to do a DNS lookup
[17:52] <Pollywog> you can disable exim
[17:53] <Pollywog> in /etc/init.d/exim or similar file, put
[17:53] <Pollywog> exit 0
[17:53] <Pollywog> near the top of the file after the #!/bin/sh line
[17:53] <Pollywog> on the following line
[17:53] <Pollywog> not on the same line as #!/bin/sh
[17:54] <b0nn> :)
[17:54] <Pollywog> but it is preferable to find the reason exim is taking long
[17:54] <Pollywog> it is possibly a DNS lookup that fails
[17:55] <Pollywog> so fix the /etc/resolv.conf and that should fix it if that is the problem
[17:55] <joe-chat> Does anyone know how to install Kubuntu with software raid? The Kubuntu download CD has no option for this & I cannot find an alternate install. Do you have any suggestions?
[17:56] <makdaknife> joe-chat: gah... and I'm here looking for help to recover my software raid array
[17:56] <makdaknife> joe-chat: hold on, I saw something a minute ago
[17:57] <Pollywog> makdaknife: you could post your question on ubuntuforums
[17:57] <Pollywog> or look there to see if the question has already been asked
[17:57] <Pollywog> I think it would be a common problem
[17:58] <Pollywog> so the solution might be there too
[17:58] <makdaknife> joe-chat: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[17:58] <rmrfslash> How can I perform a "full upgrade" on kubuntu?
[17:58] <makdaknife> Pollywog: I have been searching the forums and can't find a solution
[18:00] <Pollywog> Google this: ubuntu recover software raid
[18:01] <Pollywog> I see info with those terms
[18:01] <Pollywog> rmrfslash: I have upgraded using apt-get but perhaps that is no longer the preferred method
[18:02] <Pollywog> I still use apt-get for that
[18:02] <ScorpKing> makdaknife: and there is #linux
[18:02] <Pollywog> I do an update first :  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:02] <makdaknife> Pollywog: ubuntuforums... very helpful: Raids are a waste of time and a bad idea, especially in Linux. Raid 0: minimal performance improvement. Raid 1: Double the danger of lost data.
[18:03] <makdaknife> ha ha
[18:03] <Pollywog> when that is done, I edit my apt sources
[18:03] <Pollywog> then I run apt-get update again
[18:03] <Pollywog> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:03] <ScorpKing> makdaknife: if it was that bad it would not be available in ubuntu ;)
[18:04] <Pollywog> but like I said, many ppl use aptitude or synaptic to do their upgrades
[18:04] <makdaknife> ScorpKing: I'm not saying that it is bad... I'm just asking for a little help with dmraid... I was told to go to ubuntuforums... but I'm not finding the help there very useful
[18:04] <Pollywog> but don't forget to make sure you upgrade your current ubuntu release before upgrading to the next release
[18:05] <userone> anyone knows about font anti aliasing settings? I'm not sure which settings are the same as the ones in Windows
[18:06] <Pollywog> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[18:06] <makdaknife> rmrfslash: I prefer aptitude to do an upgrade, as it helps avoid dependency woe...
[18:06] <Pollywog> makdaknife: have you looked at this?
[18:06] <joe-chat> makdaknife: Thanks. That link gives me a new approach. I tried >U<buuntu altenrate disk install. It installed, but failed on reboot.
[18:06] <userone> in the appearance preference pane it says its using system settings, the question is what are systems settings and where do I change them?
[18:06] <ScorpKing> makdaknife: i use raid1 on all my servers but i've never had any problems so my knoledge on recovering raid is limitted. you can join the #linux channel and i'm sure someone there would be able to help. if not come back here. i'll be around for the next 3 hours or so
[18:06] <b0nn> oh
[18:06] <b0nn> another issue
[18:07] <b0nn> it locks up at "Basic Networking"
[18:07] <Pollywog> b0nn: what would that be?
[18:07] <makdaknife> rmrfslash: adept apparently also has a dist upgrade tool
[18:07] <Pollywog> oh
[18:07] <Pollywog> yes I thought it might be a networking problem
[18:07] <b0nn> this is an older issue, that I was working around by booting to recovery , then just normal booting
[18:07] <makdaknife> joe-chat: hmmm I built mine manually some months back, so never did it with a fresh install
[18:08] <makdaknife> ScorpKing: yeah... metoo... never ran into a problem until today... been on #linux and they've suggested removing the disk
[18:08] <joe-chat> makdaknife: What do you mean you built it manually?
[18:08] <ScorpKing> makdaknife: try #ubuntu-za ;)
[18:09] <Pollywog> b0nn: did you set up dhcp?
[18:09] <Pollywog> or are you using static IP addresses?
[18:10] <Pollywog> b0nn: do you know your way around the network config files?
[18:10] <makdaknife> joe-chat: I set up dmraid for a bunch of new disks that I added to my system... so never used an installer to do it
[18:11] <Pollywog> you should check them to make sure the addresses and default gateway and interfaces are correct
[18:11] <makdaknife> ScorpKing: heh... will have a look a bit later... thanks
[18:11] <Pollywog> and also check /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf
[18:12] <ScorpKing> makdaknife: np. let me know if you can't solve it.
[18:12]  * ScorpKing goes back to work..
[18:12] <noren> hi all
[18:13] <Pollywog> b0nn: are you able to connect to hosts on the Internet from the machine?
[18:16] <joe-chat> makdaknife:  So your system is not on your Raid array?  Have you looked at the mdadm tools to manage / recover your Raid array?  I don't know if they are compatible with dmraid, so you might have to do some googling.
[18:16] <userone> can anyone recommend a program for managing a music player?
[18:21] <lutiusveratius> !warcraft
[18:25] <lutiusveratius> Has anyone installed Warcraft 3 ?
[18:25] <lutiusveratius> I have a problem with starting it
[18:34] <jcprather> is this eating half a gig of my ram to mount these fs's?  tmpfs                 497M   12K  497M   1% /dev/shm
[18:35] <jcprather> last time i used a linux desktop, procfs, devfs, and ext*fs were the only fs's i had to be familiar with
[18:35] <n1c0> Hy guys. How i can do to put my favourite applications in a plasma folder?
[18:36] <fosco__> n1c0, drag and drop menu icons over folderview plasmoid
[18:36] <jcprather> hrmz i suppose i'd prolly have even more ram consumed than i do if it was disappearing into that
[18:37] <chronos> Has anyone been having stability issues lately? I updated my Intrepid and when I did, programs have started randomly crashing, disappearing, etc.  What gives?
[18:38] <rmrfslash> ok.... kubuntu is already "outperforming" Ubuntu in that I can at least resume after hibernation even with the ATI driver enabled
[18:39] <robin0800> chronos: Yes since todays updates but no crash reports!
[18:39] <rmrfslash> After installing Ubuntu, I just got a black screen and the machine was hung
[18:44] <chronos> robin0800: same here. Nothing. Just disappears.
[18:46] <talonstriker> hi, i'm having a hard time to get the live CD to load
[18:46] <BenoitStandre> hello all
[18:46] <talonstriker> I put in the CD before booting the computer, and the default OS (Win2k) is booting up
[18:46] <talonstriker> i don't see an option on the bios screen to boot from CD
[18:46] <BenoitStandre> has anybody played a bit with Phonon ? Amarok won't play anything saying that it falls back on "".
[18:47] <BenoitStandre> a bit like if the audio card was blocked by something (kubuntu intrepid, KDE4.2 from backports)
[18:49] <robin0800> Any one got networkmanager mobile broardband tab to work?
[18:50] <jcprather> where can i go check if a bug has already been reported for kpackagekit on jaunty?
[18:51] <hix> jcprather: ask in #ubuntu+1 , thats for jaunty.
[18:51] <robin0800> jcprather: History dosn't seem to give any usefull info and not realy history
[18:52] <pingus> hi2all
[19:19] <giammaria> ciao a tutti
[19:23] <giammaria> ciao a tutti
[19:23] <fosco__> !it
[19:24] <Lugia010719d1> Hello
[19:25] <ctx144k> hello all...
[19:25] <fosco__> !hi
[19:26] <ctx144k> i founded a problem in kubuntu9.04 alpha5 ...  kaffeine is crashing while playings mp3/oggs after pausing and playing again..
[19:27] <Lugia010719d1> I seem to have a weird problem in Kubuntu, sometimes,when i hibernate my laptop (Dell Studio 15), and then wake it and logon, for a few minutes as i move the mouse, it behaves like i am right-clicking randomly...
[19:27] <Lugia010719d1> so i just move the mouse up through the screen and it brings the context-menu 4 times and closes it again, with another "right-click"
[19:29] <pm2> I'm running Kubuntu Dapper on Sparc machines.  Is there a way to get the .config file that was used to compile the kernel?
[19:30] <fosco__> pm2, it uses to be in /boot/config-`uname -r`
[19:31] <fosco__> dapper is too old for me to be sure
[19:31] <sas> hi wie bekomm ich youtube zum laufen hab scon falshplayer und falshplugin installiert zeigt mir aber nur schwarzes fenster
[19:32] <fosco__> !de
[19:32] <rosiepossie> first time kubuntu user long time slackware user. How do I get my screen resolution higher using the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[19:33] <fosco__> rosiepossie, run nvidia-settings
[19:33] <rosiepossie> fosco__, it gives me a max option of 640x480.
[19:33] <josh-l> hey folks
[19:34] <fosco__> ummm so mostly sure you are not using nvidia drivers
[19:34] <fosco__> run glxinfo | grep -i render in a konsole
[19:34] <josh-l> is there anyway to get rid of the garbage when opening windows and occasionally menus? I know in jaunty its gone, but in intrepid is there someway to patch it or something?
[19:34] <wizardslovak> hello people
[19:35] <wizardslovak> my system is slooow as shit, what can i do to speed it up?? i have compiz tho
[19:35] <pm2> fosco__: thanks
[19:36] <rosiepossie> direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE and lsmod shows nvidia
[19:36] <wizardslovak> ??
[19:37] <rosiepossie> sorry wizardslovak that was to fosco__
[19:37] <wizardslovak> ooo cause i got same card lol
[19:38] <fosco__> wizardslovak, type top in a consola and take a look, maybe an application is using too many system resources
[19:38] <fosco__> rosiepossie, don't know then
[19:39] <fosco__> you can try sudo nvidia-xconfig to regenerate X config
[19:39] <fosco__> make a backup of xorg.conf first
[19:40] <rosiepossie> fosco__, I don't know if I am using a pnp monitor is there a way to specify the monitor in kubuntu?
[19:41] <fosco__> it is autodetected (usually)
[19:42] <rosiepossie> that is what I thought but nvidia x server settings are just calling it crt 0.
[19:43] <wizardslovak> ok i got another problem
[19:43] <wizardslovak> i cannot access my windows hdas
[19:43] <wizardslovak> when i click on it , its kinda fade out and then come back but not open any window
[19:43] <fosco__> wizardslovak, make sure vista was shutted down correctly
[19:44] <wizardslovak> well problem is i had power loss and since then i couldnt start windows
[19:44] <wizardslovak> only kubuntu
[19:45] <wizardslovak> is there any way i can get file??
[19:45] <wizardslovak> i got there my windows key
[19:45] <fosco__> yes
[19:45] <fosco__> use mount command in console
[19:46] <wizardslovak> ok here you gotta give me little help
[19:46] <wizardslovak> what is the command  for it?
[19:46] <fosco__> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/"vista_partition" /media && sudo umount /media
[19:46] <wizardslovak> i see that  i got 3 partitions but all of them have same name ,
[19:46] <wizardslovak> i dont have vista only xp
[19:46] <fosco__> after that it should work ok
[19:47] <fosco__> the same for XP
[19:47] <wizardslovak> also with "vista_partition"??
[19:47] <fosco__> no man
[19:47] <josh-l> hey, anyone know of a good firefox oxygen theme that fixes the broken tab look?
[19:47] <fosco__> just the partition name
[19:48] <fosco__> such as /dev/sda1 or whatever it is
[19:50] <aza> will kubuntu  9.04 comes with kde4
[19:50] <aza> ?
[19:50] <fosco__> aza, yes, kde 4.2
[19:50] <wizardslovak> ok so i used --->sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sda1 /media && sudo umount /media and i got some kind of input/output error
[19:50] <fosco__> read it
[19:51] <aza> kde4 is pushing me to use another GUI
[19:51] <wizardslovak> fosco__: http://pastebin.com/m8c5db50
[19:51] <aza> maybe i will stick to xfce or fluxbox
[19:51] <aza> :D
[19:52] <aza> what are you using fosco ?
[19:53] <fosco__> wizardslovak, it is self explaining, system is corrupted, run chkdsk /f on Windows
[19:53] <wizardslovak> i cannot start windows
[19:53] <wizardslovak> not even in safe mode
[19:53] <fosco__> use windws rescue console
[19:53] <fosco__> but this is a win issue
[19:54] <hix> aza: i thought same until 4.2.1 on jaunty alpha. But now first time it 'feels' really great.
[19:54] <fosco__> sorry, time to go home
[19:54] <aza> when it will be launched ?
[19:55] <hix>  april 23rd, i think
[19:58] <rosiepossie> bbs restarting x.
[20:02] <Pconfig> heya, anybody tried jaunty alpha in virtualbox?
[20:04] <antoranz> I don't know if I should ask this here or on the ubunto room
[20:04] <antoranz> guys,.... how can I get the boot usplash?
[20:04] <antoranz> I can see the splash when it's in "knight rider" state
[20:04] <antoranz> but then it disappears and I get terminal output till kdm starts
[20:05] <antoranz> I have been like that since at least intrepid.... but it could have started to happen in hardy
[20:07] <Hard_Wired> Maybe a stupid question but does anyone know how to set the IP address on Intrepid?
[20:07] <aza> anyone familiar with gentoo ?
[20:08] <Hard_Wired> Ermm, I think you want #gentoo, this is #kubuntu
[20:08] <aza> i will check it thx
[20:09] <cerecitas> Hard_Wired: you mean like setting up a static ip adress on the dhcp?
[20:10] <Hard_Wired> yes, how do I specify that?
[20:10] <cerecitas> hmmm i do that in the router not in the OS
[20:11] <Hard_Wired> what about the DNS search order?
[20:11] <cerecitas> you need to access the router and specify an IP adress to a MAC adress (at least that's how i do it)
[20:11] <cerecitas> all my network settings come forced from my router Hard_Wired
[20:12] <Hard_Wired> is it not possible to do it in the OS at all? I was expecting to be able to do it in the Network Settings
[20:12] <cerecitas> hmmm Hard_Wired i am afraid i cannot tell if it's possible or not, never tried
[20:13] <cerecitas> i prefer to do it in the router because so i don't need to set it up after every installation
[20:13] <Hard_Wired> interesting, thanks anyway
[20:13] <cerecitas> no problem... be patient someone may know if it's possible or not
[20:14] <hix> it should be possible ;) i had troubles in intrepid also, when dhcp was active. Now in Jaunty this works fine throw setup in knetworkmanager.
[20:15] <cerecitas> i guess so... i just could not tell how to do it ... anyway he / she left
[20:15] <hix> had to disable knetworkmanager in intrepid and setup it manually oldschool to get it work with static ip
[20:15] <sepelester> hi all. i'm running gnome with some kde4 apps and i want to play around with styles to get a more uniform desktop, but my systemsettings is missing the style switcher. is there a module i should add and what package is it in?
[20:15] <cerecitas> uffff as i said, isn't faster to do it thru the router?
[20:15] <hix> yes, thats the best way
[20:16] <hix> But its all better in jaunty soon. Works fine here without troubles
[20:17] <cerecitas> when is jaunty due hix?
[20:17] <hix> april 23rd
[20:18] <cerecitas> nice
[20:18] <cerecitas> i just installed intrepid tho
[20:24] <sepelester> I just googled my fingers bloody. anyone know in what packages extra modules for kcontrol (systemsettings) there are? specifically style switching.
[20:24] <cerecitas> didn't you mention before you were using gnome?
[20:25] <hix>  sepelester: since most users here use kde, you may have more chance in #ubuntu to get an answer
[20:25] <Avoided> Heya, how can I change my hostname?
[20:26] <sepelester> cerecitas: yes, but i want to switch kde4 theme. i figured #kubuntu was the proper place to ask
[20:26] <hix> Avoided: hostname newname
[20:26] <cerecitas> hmmmm i don'tknow if i get the thing... you use gnome with some kde apps right?
[20:26] <sepelester> cerecitas: right
[20:27] <cerecitas> hmm then the theme manager, if i am not wrong, should be the one you use for gnome
[20:27] <cerecitas> even tho the apps are kde ones,.. they are still in gnome, to change window appearance and so on i guess it should be the gnome theme manager
[20:28] <cerecitas> not sure tho and i might very well be wrong, just a guess
[20:28] <sepelester> cerecitas: gnome's theme manager switches gtk themes, i want to switch qt4 theme
[20:28] <cerecitas> right, then maybe you can try in #kde
[20:28] <Avoided> it says :"you must be root to change the host name"..er..how i can enter the root?
[20:29] <sepelester> cerecitas: i did, they said it was distro specific, what packages different kcontrol modules are in
[20:29] <cerecitas> sudo hostname newname
[20:29] <cerecitas> sepelester:  then i don't know, sorry
[20:29] <michele> ciao
[20:30] <sepelester> cerecitas: :/ thanks anyway
[20:30] <michele> !list
[20:30] <cerecitas> no problem... sorry anyway
[20:33] <quassel195> quassel is pretty cool, too bad i cant put the core on my dd-wrt router
[20:39] <Neremor> hello!
[20:39] <Neremor> i've a problem with emerald
[20:39] <Neremor> or compiz, i dont know which causes all the trouble ;)
[20:40] <Neremor> i have downloaded a theme for emerald, which is set up as the window decorator in my compiz configuration
[20:40] <Neremor> so far so good, everything is working with the theme. it looks great :)
[20:40] <Neremor> but some windows, for example the system settings, arend decorated at some times...
[20:43] <Neremor> ??
[20:46] <Cripps> I was playing around in kcontrol's "Regional and Accessibility" so that i could switch between qwerty and dvorak keyboard layouts, and now my keyboard is mapped to the greek alphabet .... I tried running: "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us" to no avail. Also, the "alt" keys no longer do anything. Can I get some help getting my keyboard back to "normal?"
[20:47] <cerecitas> have you checked in regional and language?
[20:47] <cerecitas> there you have the keyboard layout
[20:48] <lutiusveratius> !restricted
[20:48] <Cripps> cerecitas, yes, it says "US English"
[20:48] <cerecitas> do you have marked "enable keyboard layouts"?
[20:48] <cerecitas> mine changes to polish when i enable it
[20:48] <cerecitas> and says us english when i disable it
[20:49] <technix> hello all, quick question - i just got a lenovo ideapad s10 netbook. i have a 8gb usb flash drive, and a Kubunto 8.10 iso saved to my computer's hard drive, how do i write the ISO to the flash drive so it's bootable?
[20:51] <Cripps> cerecitas, yes, I do have keyboard layouts enabled. disabling it does not change the keyboard :/
[20:51] <cajun> i need quick help with a script.  i'd like to create on that reads from a file and then runs a command. i want it to take the characters that show up in place of the # (RUN ######) and insert them into a command. how do i create this loop?
[20:52] <cerecitas> where were you trying exactly? in "accesibility"?
[20:54] <technix> hello all, quick question - i just got a lenovo ideapad s10 netbook. i have a 8gb usb flash drive, and a Kubunto 8.10 iso saved to my computer's hard drive, how do i write the ISO to the flash drive so it's bootable?
[20:55] <Cripps> cerecitas, sorry, it was "keyboard layout" in tge accessibility stuff.
[20:55] <cerecitas> hmm why sorry?
[20:55] <asraniel> is there a kde application that i could use to test my microphone?
[20:56] <Cripps> cerecitas, because I was slow getting back.
[20:56] <cerecitas> no problem Cripps... let me try something and i will get back to you
[20:57] <Cripps> cerecitas, and, beause I'm canadian. I apologize for everything ;)
[20:57] <stdin> technix: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:57] <Cripps> kk. I'll be here.
[20:57] <cerecitas> ehehehh Cripps i am spanish, we're rude ;) when someone apologizes we worry ;) be right back
[20:58] <hix> technix: try installing package 'usb-creator'
[20:59] <cerecitas> Cripps:  below the layouts flags it says "layout variant" could you please check it is set to "default"?
[21:00] <Cripps> cerecitas, it is (and was) I re-set it to default, and hit "apply," no change :(
[21:01] <cerecitas> hmmm if you have not touched much there, you can always try hitting "defaults" in the bottom left corner
[21:01] <cerecitas> if you had.. maybe you wanna wait someone more with more knowledge than i
[21:02] <cerecitas> or maybe
[21:02] <Cripps> cerecitas, nah, I just tried it, still nothing :/
[21:02] <cerecitas> you can try to "disable keyboard layouts'
[21:02] <cerecitas> and see what happens
[21:02] <cerecitas> won't harm
[21:02] <Cripps> oddly enough, that's one of the default settings ;)
[21:02] <cerecitas> i know, mines are disabled
[21:03] <Cripps> cerecitas, still nothing :/
[21:03] <lutiusveratius> hello
[21:03] <cerecitas> and last, try to restart X just in case is something acting weird... do not have any more suggestions here sorry
[21:03] <cerecitas> hi lutiusveratius
[21:04] <josh-l> any kubuntu jaunty users in here?
[21:04] <josh-l> how do you find it? stable yet?
[21:05] <cerecitas> hmm there is a channel for jaunty users...
[21:05] <cerecitas> i think its #kubuntu+1 or something similar, not totally sure
[21:05] <josh-l> ubutnu+1
[21:05] <cerecitas> yup
[21:05] <Cripps> cerecitas, it's working.
[21:05] <cerecitas> what's working/
[21:05] <cerecitas> ?
[21:05] <Cripps> me wonders *what* caused th problem to go away
[21:06] <lutiusveratius> has anyone had problems with games in linux?I have one with Warcraft 3
[21:06] <cerecitas> restarted X Cripps?
[21:06] <Cripps> cerecitas, my keyboard is back to normal.
[21:06] <Cripps> yep.
[21:06] <cerecitas> Cripps:  then that caused the problem to go away
[21:06] <Cripps> yep, but I don't know why.
[21:06] <cerecitas> whenever anything acts weird i just restart X
[21:06] <cerecitas> and see
[21:07] <cerecitas> anyway i am glad it worked :)
[21:08] <asraniel> random question. could it be the fault of pulseaudio if my microphone is not working? i mean, it always worked, and now with the upgrade it does not anymore. and i hear that pulseaudio is always the evil one ;)
[21:08] <cerecitas> did you check the mixer settings asraniel/
[21:08] <cerecitas> ?/
[21:09] <lutiusveratius> !cameras
[21:09] <asraniel> cerecitas: yes. tried every possible setting. i can hear myself on the loopback, but skype and audacity can't hear any sound from my mic. and i could not yet find another application that uses the mic
[21:10] <cerecitas> hmmm i have not managed to configure skype yet... no time to dig on it. Anyway try also messing with the capture in skype settings
[21:10] <cerecitas> i think if you can hear yourself in the loopback then the mic is working
[21:12] <asraniel> cerecitas: but why does skype not use it? when i'm doing the testcall, i can't hear myself
[21:13] <cerecitas> asraniel:  as i said... i haven't put myself with skype yet... it is always a pain and lately i have not much energies... what i can tell you is that i have always had problems with skype from gnome, from kde i have not been able to make it work yet...
[21:13] <cerecitas> works fine with alsamixer, hard to get, but ends up working...
[21:13] <cerecitas> in kde i cannot tell you how on earth... but i know people gets it to work so there must be a way
[21:14] <cerecitas> in the skype preferences there is a setting to select the device... maybe try to change default by the ones in the dropdown until you manage
[21:14] <asraniel> cerecitas: yeah, tried that, no luck. you know by any chance any sound capturing app for linux?
[21:15] <cerecitas> hmmm only in gnome unfortunately,.. but you can check in adept
[21:15] <cerecitas> just sound recorder or sound capture... something like that
[21:15] <cerecitas> i know there's an app called sound recorder but it's a gnome one
[21:17] <cerecitas> ok cerecitas needs some sleep
[21:17] <cerecitas> cya
[21:19] <lutiusveratius> cerectias : I need to install mp3 support...what do I need?
[21:19] <amaury> oi
[21:19] <amaury> alguem de fortaleza ?
[21:25] <josh-l> no chrome browser in the repos?
[21:25] <lutiusveratius> I need to install mp3 support...what do I need?
[21:26] <josh-l> lutiusveratius: apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:26] <draik_> I'm on KDE. Would using compiz-gnome cause an issue?
[21:26] <lutiusveratius> josh-I done that already
[21:27] <maco> there's a compiz-kde too...
[21:27] <josh-l> lutiusveratius: should be enough
[21:27] <maco> lutiusveratius: if you mean to be able to encode mp3s, you might need liblame
[21:27] <lutiusveratius> josh-I : no...it's not...how do I install liblame?
[21:28] <asraniel>  the computer of my gf uses 100% cpu after loging in, then the computer dies (unresponsive) what can she do?
[21:29] <draik_> maco: Right. I just realized that it wasn't installed and I've been using compiz-gnome.
[21:29] <maco> oh. well no, that doesnt hurt anything. ive done it too
[21:30] <draik_> I'm just trying to find out why it freezes and wanted to see if that would be the cause.
[21:30] <lutiusveratius> maco : how do I install liblame?
[21:30] <draik_> lutiusveratius: sudo apt-get install liblame
[21:30] <josh-l> liblame isnt in the repos
[21:31] <josh-l> lame is
[21:31] <lutiusveratius> draik_ : no,that is not helping me
[21:33] <asraniel> what application could use 100% cpu just after login? my gf has that problem, and i have to debug it over the phone
[21:33] <josh-l> lutiusveratius: install lame
[21:33] <maco> ok then lame
[21:34] <lutiusveratius> josh-I : sudo apt-get install lame?
[21:34] <josh-l> lutiusveratius: yeah
[21:34] <lutiusveratius> josh-I : ok...will try in few min...just to install wine
[21:34] <dennda> Is there any up-to-date KDE4 Repo for ubuntu?
[21:34] <dennda> (preferably with more than just a few core packages)
[21:34] <josh-l> lutiusveratius: mind if i ask why install wine?
[21:35] <lutiusveratius> josh-I : I wanna install some games for my little brother from win
[21:35] <hix> .oO( harhar, ot: http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ didnt know that, love it ;) )
[21:35] <josh-l> dennda: yeah, go to adept > sources> updates> select unsupported updates
[21:38] <sebsebseb> I know that KDE3 can be installed into 8.10,  but it seems can't have both KDE3 and 4 together in 8.10?????
[21:38] <stdin> you can't install KDE3 in 8.10
[21:38] <sebsebseb> yes you can
[21:38] <stdin> not officially
[21:38] <sebsebseb> yep
[21:38] <sebsebseb> not officalley
[21:38] <lutiusveratius> josh-I : that with lame is not working...Problem is that I have checked not to remind for mp3 support on amarok...and I need it now:)
[21:38] <sebsebseb> what  I am wondering about is if KDE3 and 4 can be in 8.10 together
[21:38] <stdin> then you need to complain to whoever made the KDE3 package
[21:39] <stdin> it's not supported for a reason
[21:39] <sebsebseb> stdin: what is the reason?
[21:39] <stdin> because it breaks too much
[21:39] <sebsebseb> I  just virtual machine  8.04 for  KDE3,  but  a few weeks back,   a guy put KDE3 on in  a Ubuntu install.  and then well KDE4 would have just upgraded the KDE3 that was put on
[21:40] <sebsebseb> well KDE3 is nice
[21:40] <sebsebseb> I prefer it to KDE4
[21:40] <sebsebseb> just some of the apps in KDE4 got much better for example Ktorrent
[21:40] <stdin> if you want to use KDE3, then use 8.04
[21:40] <sebsebseb> ok  I would run Gnome with some KDE apps :D,  but  KDE3 is also nice, and so it's ashame it's on the verge of no longer being suppourted
[21:40] <stdin> you can install KDE4 apps in there
[21:40] <sebsebseb> yes I know 8.04
[21:40] <stdin> "on the verge"?
[21:40] <sebsebseb> can have both KDE3 and 4
[21:41] <stdin> it's already not supported, KDE have stoped working on it
[21:41] <sebsebseb> some distros still do KDE3, but KDE3 is going bye bye :(
[21:41] <stdin> no dev's working on it == dead
[21:43] <sebsebseb> stdin: well it's a shame, KDE3   as a GUI I find to be much nicer than KDE4
[21:45] <stdin> I personally prefer KDE4 much more, makes 3 look like Win95 in comparison
[21:45] <hix> agreed.
[21:46] <dennda> josh-l: you mean backports?
[21:59] <josh-l> dennda: hey no there should be "unsupported updates" are you running on intrepid?
[22:04] <runpain2> hey i tried #madwifi and they said that my wifi is broke but it works with windozxp
[22:05] <runpain2> I have Kubuntu 8.04Lts installed i upgraded from 7.10
[22:06] <runpain2> my wifi like wont work
[22:06] <runpain2> i did all the instuctions to install the anthros driver
[22:08] <runpain2> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[22:08] <runpain2> sudo ifconfig ath0 down
[22:08] <runpain2> sudo ifconfig wifi0 down
[22:08] <runpain2> #Repeat these 2 ifconfig lines for every MadWifi device you have (ath1, etc)
[22:08] <runpain2> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:08] <runpain2> cd madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r3861-20080903
[22:08] <runpain2> make sudo make install sudo depmod -ae sudo modprobe ath_pci echo ath_hal | sudo tee -a /etc/modules echo ath_pci | sudo tee -a /etc/module system->administration->hardware drivers and enable the drivers # reboot to reset the ethernet hardware.
[22:08] <runpain2> sorry for flood
[22:08] <runpain2> was trying to sort it when i hit the enter key
[22:09] <Guest17448> how canI open rar file
[22:11] <tmeixner> Guest17448:  sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:11] <runpain2> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) sudo ifconfig ath0 down sudo ifconfig wifi0 down#Repeat these 2 ifconfig lines for every MadWifi device you have (ath1, etc)sudo apt-get install build-essential cd madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-r3861-20080903 make sudo make install sudo depmod -ae sudo modprobe ath_pci echo ath_hal | sudo tee -a /etc/modules echo ath_pci | sudo tee -a /etc/module system->administration->hardwar
[22:11] <runpain2> e drivers and enable the drivers # reboot to reset the ethernet hardware.
[22:11] <tmeixner> Guest17448: there is also the package unrar-nonfree
[22:12] <runpain2> darn did it again
[22:13] <tmeixner> runpain2: actually that woudl be a nice feature request for a irc client. An automated pastebin window which just spits out the url for long lines.
[22:14] <heinkel_111> if i want to make an audio cd using k3b, but I only have flac files, does k3b convert to standard cd audio on burn?
[22:19] <reagleBRKLN> i'm trying to install texlive on intrepid but kpsewhich just chews up the processor forever... any hints/tips? how long should it take?
[22:20] <hix> heinkel_111:  yes
[22:21] <heinkel_111> hix: thank you... i just started a simulation run to see if i would get any wiser.. ..
[22:31] <josh-l> i wish someone would make this theme for kde 4:
[22:31] <josh-l> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=603348
[22:33] <josh-l> okay i know how to get kde 4.2 for intrepid, but how do i get all the kde 4.2 apps with it, for example even after updating to kde 4.2, i still have kde 3.5 Konversation
[22:39] <mangospork> :O
[22:40] <tmeixner> josh-l: that's a pretty awsome theme.
[22:40] <Dragnslcr> josh-l- I don't think the KDE4 version of Konversation is ready yet
[22:41] <josh-l> ah
[22:41] <josh-l> right tmeixner! i wish i knew how to make kde styles
[22:41] <halfsane> hey !    Where do i find MCS... appearantly i need to install it .. cant find it in synaptic .. thanks
[22:41] <halfsane> here is the terminal prompt
[22:41] <halfsane> sharp
[22:42] <halfsane> configure: error: You need mcs
[22:42] <tmeixner> josh-l: I don't know either (yet) I just did the switch with jaunty now. does the theme work alright on ubuntu though?
[22:43] <tmeixner> josh-l: maybe you can ask for pointers how to create a theme in #kubuntu-devel
[22:44] <josh-l> yeah i'll try there
[22:45] <josh-l> there is a theme based on those mockups for gnome and it looks GREAT
[22:46] <tmeixner> do you have the name, is it on gnomelooks ? josh-l
[22:46] <josh-l> yeah tmeixner hang on
[22:47] <josh-l> tmeixner: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Schwermetall?content=55578
[22:47] <josh-l> port it dude!
[22:48] <tmeixner> uh, heavy german influence in the name :-) thanks for the link
[22:48] <josh-l> hehe yeah
[22:52] <tokeefe> Has anyone experienced problems w/ audio on kubuntu. I have a Dell XPS 16
[22:53] <tokeefe> "High Definition Audio 2.0"
[22:53] <tokeefe> This is what the sound spec says
[22:53] <tokeefe> I assume some Intel onbard thing
[22:56] <mile> could somebody tell me how do I know if I have the medibuntu repositories installed?? I'm trying to install skype, but Adept finds nothing...
[23:00] <hix> mile: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[23:00] <mile> tx hix
[23:05] <vrm_> test
[23:05] <vrm_> тест
[23:06] <josh-l> so anyone got the tallent to make that style?? :)
[23:09] <rmrfslash> Wow... I'm on the train and I'm testing my audio.
[23:10] <rmrfslash> Was coming out of both my headphones and my speakers
[23:10] <rmrfslash> full blast
[23:10] <rmrfslash> so happened to be testing w/ the first video on youtube which was some teenage chick tryouts for american idol
[23:11] <gmiernicki_> anyone kno how to set the system soundcard to a bluetooth stereo headset? my system has no soundcard
[23:27] <vincentpsp2> lut
[23:28] <vincentpsp2> fr
[23:42]  * jcprather suspects that irc clients defaulting to autojoin #kubuntu result in excessive mostly-unnecessary join/part spam in this channel that he doesn't get plagued with elsewhere
[23:46] <davidjheinrich> hi all
[23:47] <davidjheinrich> I am working on my xorg.conf file for a 2048x1536 CRT...how do I get 2048x1536 resolution at 75Hz refresh? (also, what about timings, blanking, dot-clock freq, etc)?
[23:50]  * jcprather never became very familiar with ModeLines and timings, but i've found that in the Display sections nwithin the Screen section, i can set rez with: Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" for example, to get it to load  up at 1280x1024 when on lcd and able to, or 1024 when on the builtin laptop flatpanel.   that's where a rez can be set if default isn't being nice
[23:51] <jcprather> those modes were defined by my intel driver i believe
[23:52] <davidjheinrich> how can I find out what values for dot-clock, blanking, etc xorg (or xrandr, whatever) chooses if I tell it to do 2048x1536 at 75Hz?
[23:53] <jcprather> don't know, sorry :(  xorg.conf should be a refrtesher for where you can put horiz or vert sync info iirc, but i have never understood it
[23:55] <davidjheinrich> thanks...does anyone else here have any ideas onthat?


[11:09] <makx> jbailey: mentors has something for you. :)
[11:09] <jbailey> Lovely.
[11:09] <jbailey> klibc or initramfs?
[11:28] <makx> initramfs
[11:28] <makx> klibc is atm hindered by waldi
[11:29] <jbailey> Oh?
[11:40] <makx> well he removed the asm symlink in linux-headers-2.6.14
[11:40] <makx> svenl and trave11er jumped onto the floar and said that i should use linux-kernel-headers
[11:40] <makx> i said that i know that and asked for a patch.
[11:41] <makx> none of which happened.
[11:41] <jbailey> Oh, is that why svenl has been talking about that on debian-glibc
[11:41] <jbailey> I think a patch is almost on its way.
[11:43] <makx> ooh cool


[00:00] <Omnifrog> I dunno how committed to minimalism I am though. I still want to get things done that arnt just "screwing with the computer"
[00:00] <wrst> ha ha debian maybe?
[00:00] <cyberanger> gentoo or arch....
[00:01] <wrst> howdy cyberanger
[00:01] <wrst> gentoo, ain't nobody got time for that
[00:02]  * wrst tries to badly rip off a famous youtube video
[00:04] <wrst> this is interesting also: http://www.muktware.com/5370/html5-brings-netflix-samsungs-arm-chromebook
[00:10] <bill_gill> qq..... is samba required in order to share files between windows and linux? I have a small home lan. I have movies i want to share. is samba required or can i just have and nfts partition on the linux box?
[00:14] <wrst> bill_gill: samba is the easiest by far
[00:14] <wrst> but you can read and write to ntfs just fine, but if you are networked samba is the best way to go actaully i guess the only way with windows
[00:15] <bill_gill> ok
[00:16] <wrst> and bill_gill if you are using unity all you have to do is right click, share, then set it up ubuntu takes care of all the set up and installation of packages
[00:18] <wrst> bill_gill: actually just tried that out to make sure, works perfect
[00:18] <bill_gill> that didn't work
[00:18] <bill_gill> well... they all see the share but cannot access the files
[00:18] <wrst> bill_gill: that should do it i just clicked sharing options then clicked share this folder, allow others, guest access i opened it wide open
[00:19] <wrst> did you slect guest access? and also to allow others to create and delete files, that isn't secure by any means but it will get you what you want quick and easy
[00:19] <bill_gill> sounds good... didn't work here
[00:19] <bill_gill> yes
[00:19] <bill_gill> obvious fix right
[00:19] <wrst> did you restart your windows box?
[00:19] <bill_gill> no
[00:19] <bill_gill> is that needed
[00:20] <wrst> it is likely not recognizing the changes i checked it out on my phone
[00:20] <wrst> bill_gill: with windows its always needed
[00:20] <wrst> i'm sure there is some silly way to restart something but easier to restart
[00:20] <bill_gill> just to be sure we are on the same page.... the files are on the ubuntu box
[00:20]  * wrst forgets more about windows every day and is happy about it
[00:20] <wrst> yes bill_gill files on linux machine and doing that made them available as samba shares that was on my phone i have no windows machine to check them with but it should work
[00:21] <wrst> however android is running samba also
[00:21] <wrst> actually windows would be better running samba
[00:21]  * wrst heads out for a bit
[00:21] <Omnifrog> http://markplusplus.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/winreboot.png?w=500
[00:25] <bill_gill> very funny!
[00:25] <bill_gill> so true
[00:33] <wrst> that get you going bill_gill ?
[00:57] <twayneprice> hey wrst when I run virtualbox I get this error:  Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and the appropriate
[00:57] <twayneprice> 	 headers, most likely linux-headers-3.4.0.
[00:57] <twayneprice> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.4.0 doesn't un
[00:57] <twayneprice> Any ideas?
[00:58] <wrst> hmm
[00:58] <Omnifrog> hii twayneprice
[00:58] <twayneprice> hey Omnifrog
[01:00] <Omnifrog> I think you have to specify which package you want
[01:00] <wrst> twayneprice: not at my laptop is that on your chrome book
[01:00] <twayneprice> wrst: yup
[01:00] <Omnifrog> ie.   http://blog.hostonnet.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-4-0-on-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[01:01] <wrst> is that in the chroot or native boot up?
[01:02] <twayneprice> chroot
[01:04] <wrst> so you are working off the kernel of the chrome book? that could get complicated
[01:07] <twayneprice> When I do a apt-cache it jumps from linux-headers-3.2 to 3.5
[01:08] <twayneprice> Omnifrog: that didn't seem to work either
[01:09] <wrst> yeah twayneprice the Ubuntu repos probably want have headers to match the kernel on the chrome book I suspect you would have to find and compile from source
[01:09] <wrst> Unit193: you around?
[01:24] <twayneprice> there is a newer version of crouton.  I may try to update.
[01:29] <wrst> that might help maybe but have a feeling it may be painful to get it going
[01:29] <wrst> but I'm sure its not impossible
[01:31] <twayneprice> most everything else I've installed runs fine.  I can always just run stuff remotely.
[01:37] <wrst> I suspect that expecting a kernel to match what Ubuntu should be running is the issue not this is all beyond my pea sized brain
[01:41] <Omnifrog> crud
[01:41] <Omnifrog> my optical drive is not being detected
[01:42] <Omnifrog> I suspect the last time I put a new drive in the dc/dvd got bumped to a different port
[01:43] <Juzzy> hey it's my farmer man
[01:43] <Juzzy> :}
[02:28] <Omnifrog> FARMERS ROCK!
[02:48] <Juzzy> I have a red neck
[02:48] <Juzzy> after spending 24 hours in 2 days planting grapes and berries
[03:10] <Omnifrog> fine, I take 2 shows tomorrow
[03:28] <Omnifrog> tomorrow will be fun
[04:50] <Juzzy> heh frog -> pond nice
[08:59] <Unit193> wrst: Am now. :P
[09:46] <Omnifrog> :D
[10:20] <wrst> Unit193: too late we are all asleep
[10:20] <wrst> :)
[10:31] <wrst> oh twayneprice is that an ARM processor in your chrome book?
[12:09] <twayneprice> wrst: No, the samsung has the ARM.  Mine is the Acer C7.
[12:11] <wrst> ahh well that should be a problem, Unit193 you have any ideas I know you are all into kernl stuff?
[12:11] <wrst> and kernel stuff even
[12:13] <wrst> and I meant that shouldn't be a problem... I need to wake up before typing
[12:13] <DJOmnifrog> blerg
[12:15] <twayneprice> wrst: Except I found instructions for the ARM :)   https://launchpad.net/~chromebook-arm/+archive/ppa
[12:16] <wrst> well crud
[12:18] <Unit193> Heh. :P
[12:23] <twayneprice> BTW, I created a xfce chroot and an unity chroot.  I find myself using the xfce one much more.  :)
[12:24] <Unit193> Mainly because Xfce is awesome.
[12:27] <wrst> Unit193: any ideas on twayneprice's virtual box stuff?
[12:27] <Unit193> I haven't seen it. :P
[12:30] <twayneprice> I'm wondering if it is a problem to run virtualbox in a chroot.
[12:31] <wrst> Unit193: scroll up just a bit will keep us from having to re type it all ;)
[12:31] <Unit193> wrst: I wanted a re-type!  ;)
[12:31] <wrst> forget it :P
[12:32] <Unit193> twayneprice: From what source?  This is "virtualbox"?  And quantal?
[12:33] <Unit193> StarTrek "All Our Yesterdays" is rather sad, actually.
[12:33] <twayneprice> I just saw this here:  https://plus.google.com/112449749826562830126/posts/ZS9WaegrZYH
[12:33] <twayneprice> "I was able to run my chromebox from Google IO with ubuntu 12. Then I updated the kernel and was able to get VirtualBox running...Then I was able to install Windows Vista 32bit on a USB sdd....The rest was downhill from there....Lol.... (Virtualized Windows on Chromebox.....heresy..... I know)..."
[12:37] <twayneprice> So at least it seems possible.  What does it mean to "update the kernel"?
[12:38] <Unit193> I'd assume sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, unless he means another source or recompile.  linux-headers-generic may be what you're looking for?
[12:38] <Unit193> This is virtualbox as found in the main repos?
[12:39] <wrst> Unit193: since it is a chroot and he is using the chrome books kernel will stuff out of the repos actually work?
[12:40] <twayneprice> yes, I just did the main repo.  That may be the problem.  :)
[12:40] <Unit193> wrst: Virtualbox?  I do not know.  Could try installing the vbox kernel driver outside of the chroot, buuut.
[12:41] <wrst> twayneprice: i would think the virtualbox package is fine but the kernel driver stuff is going to be the real issue i think
[12:41]  * wrst should let Unit193 talk
[12:41]  * wrst should be quiet
[12:42] <twayneprice> The nice thing is that if I completely hose it, it just takes about 30 minutes to get back to factory.  I didn't bring it to work today, though, so I can try anything until tonight.  :(
[12:42] <Unit193> wrst: I don't actually know, never tried it like this, and never had a chrome book.
[12:43] <wrst> me either :)
[12:44] <twayneprice> I wonder if updating the kernel was the missing step.
[12:47] <Unit193> Well, I'd think you'd need headers for the kernel that virtualbox will be interacting with, that'd be the chrome kernel.  But you don't have the chrome headers in the Ubuntu repos.  I'm guessing with the vbox driver in ChromeOS as long as it can access them outside of the chroot.
[12:49] <wrst> is a vbox driver available in chrome os?
[12:56] <twayneprice> I'll play with it more tonight but I wonder if doing the dist-upgrade will get the kernel to a version that I can find the linux headers for.
[13:02] <wrst> twayneprice: from within ubuntu i don't think so because that doesn't effect the actual kernel you are using
[13:08] <twayneprice> I wonder exactly what the guy did on the google plus comments to get it working.  He may have had the Samsung too.
[13:13] <twayneprice> wrst: My son is going to Peru for a month and is wanting to take a cheap laptop.  He's getting a chromebook.  :)
[13:18] <wrst> ahh
[13:18] <wrst> peru? business? pleasuer? mission trip? none of our business?
[13:22] <twayneprice> He is visiting a friend from high school that was originally from Peru and moved back there after college.
[13:23] <DJOmnifrog> peruvian obelisks!
[13:27] <wrst> ahh cool twayneprice sounds like an interesting trip
[13:28] <twayneprice> wrst: Yea, he's looking forward to it.  DJOmnifrog Are there famous obelisks in Peru?
[13:29] <DJOmnifrog> there are!
[13:30] <DJOmnifrog> well, I don't know how famous they are
[13:33] <wrst> morning DJOmnifrog
[13:33] <DJOmnifrog> morning wrst `
[14:01] <DJOmnifrog> how nice. the DJ who is supposed to come after me is MIA
[14:44] <cyberanger> DJOmnifrog: so, does that mean your stealing his hour?
[14:44] <DJOmnifrog>  he just showed up a few minutes ago
[14:44] <DJOmnifrog> heh
[14:45] <DJOmnifrog> I wasn't even supposed to be on this morning.