[02:00] <andresmujica> hi, i'm gonna use move-duplicates.py from python-launchpad-scripts but i've got a doubt, i should mark each bug to move or just checking the main bug it would move the dupes as dupes for the newmaster?
[02:11] <andresmujica> it seems that it would work... only if i can make the script authenticate....
[03:14] <Elbrus> I just added bug 306751, can somebody at least mark it wishlist?
[04:33] <DanielEads> Quick question...  Are kernel bugs being filed against the "linux" package still?
[04:50] <mrooney> DanielEads: Yes I do believe!
[04:55] <DanielEads> mrooney:  Thanks  :)
[06:24] <d-b> hi there there is a bug in ebox on ubuntu 8.10 - it is not installable
[06:31] <d-b> also does anyone know about the status of reportbug on ubuntu -> it still report to debian right ? is this ok / by design / does it go to another area now ?
[06:38] <crimsun> d-b: yes, the ebox uninstallable due to non-existent libapache-authcookie-perl is known
[06:39] <d-b> yes. i saw that crimsun but why is this still the case ? is there a problem in including that package / copying it from a previous release into 8.10
[06:39] <crimsun> 8.10 is frozen.  Anything added must be to intrepid-backports.
[06:40] <d-b>  / the newer ebox put in ubuntu-backports
[06:41] <crimsun> so yes, there is a problem due to that technical detail
[06:42] <d-b> ok and re reportbug
[06:42] <crimsun> also, 0.12.3 is not available yet in jaunty, so it can't be backported to intrepid-backports
[06:42] <crimsun> (however, have you seen http://ebox-platform.com/download/ ?)
[06:42] <d-b> crimsun: fair enough. crimsun yeah.
[06:43] <crimsun> by default, report bug sends to the ubuntu-users mailing list
[06:43] <crimsun> reportbug*
[06:44] <d-b> crimsun: the the description of the package shown by apt-cache show reportbug is wrong.
[06:44] <d-b> or not accurate
[06:45] <crimsun> d-b: please file a bug against it in Launchpad, then
[06:45] <d-b> ah sorry i might have missed the bottom part Bugs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:45] <d-b> is that re the package as it is included in ubuntu - i assume.
[06:46] <crimsun> that's the default address for bug reports for Ubuntu packages, yes.
[07:15] <d-b> also how can you report bugs in ubuntu from the command line, is it possible if you are just a user and not a devel / higher up in ubuntu.
[07:25] <crimsun> d-b: yes, you can just use reportbug
[07:27] <d-b> crimsun: not to ubuntu i can't
[07:28] <d-b> * i can't to ubuntu
[07:28] <d-b> the server rejects it -> its a known bug
[07:31] <d-b> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reportbug/+bug/123414
[07:35] <crimsun> d-b: you can work around it.
[07:35] <d-b> oh ?
[07:35] <crimsun> also, do you have a gpg key, and have you signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct on Launchpad?
[07:36] <crimsun> if so, you can use the e-mail interface to LP
[07:36] <d-b> crimsun: mmm i think so. let me check
[07:36] <d-b> yes i believe i have - i had to do that to become an ubuntero no ?
[07:36] <crimsun> yes
[07:36] <d-b> yep. i have signed it.
[07:37] <d-b> ah ... i'm not putting my gpg key on my server to simply report a bug.
[07:39] <d-b> but for my machine- how would i do it -> just set it up to sign mail from me ?
[07:40] <maco> crimsun: um, i cant get the email interface to work
[07:40] <maco> crimsun: and ive certainly done both of those
[07:41] <maco> d-b: yeah, it should work if you sign all your emails
[07:41] <maco> i can use it to send comments to bugs just fine
[07:41] <maco> i cant change status and such through email for some reason though
[07:42] <d-b> wait so there is a filter that is checking if a gpg sig is valid on all mails ?
[07:42] <maco> yes
[07:42] <maco> i believe so
[07:56] <crimsun> maco: where is it breaking?
[07:58] <maco> crimsun: dunno. if i try to set affects...it doesnt get set. it shows up in the body of the comment sent to jp
[07:58] <maco> *lp
[10:36] <wolfger> morning, folks
[10:37] <maco> hi
[10:37] <wolfger> Just saw an update on Bug 113657 that makes me think it should be invalidated (bug reporter fixed problem by changing hardware). What say you all?
[10:38] <maco> is there enough info to work with?
[10:38] <maco> if not...then yeah, id invalidate it
[10:38] <maco> theres also th chance he's got hardware of the same quality as mine ;)
[10:39] <maco> which is to say: broken
[10:39] <wolfger> well, it's filed against 3 packages. One is marked incomplete, so that's an easy invalidate (they clearly don't have enough info). One is confirmed and one new
[10:40] <wolfger> but in a hardware-specific bug, I'm wondering "what are the odds we'll ever know if it's fixed?" if the reporter got new hardware.
[10:41] <wolfger> and maco, do you *ever* sleep?  You seem to be up all night every night
[10:41] <wolfger> and I know you're in my time zone
[10:44] <maco> my classes start at 1420 every day :)
[10:44] <maco> i wake up around 1400
[10:44] <wolfger> dang. Must be nice. I could never get a class schedule that didn't start by 0900
[10:44] <maco> invalidate it, i think. it doesnt sound like its got the info needed
[10:44] <maco> perpetual freshman?
[10:45] <wolfger> OK, thanks.
[10:45] <wolfger> I stalled out somewhere between sophmore and junior.
[10:46] <maco> ah. yeah upperclassmen get afternoon classes here, it seems
[10:49] <LEsinnlos> how i can usw ubuntu-bug to show hin bugs ? i have many errors from wine
[11:15] <danage> jerone: in bug 282207 in your last comment you talk about a different issue with sierra cards where network manager asks the network password. do you mean that it keeps asking for the PIN? because that is the issue i am having with mine - manually entering the pin via terminal works
[16:05] <danage> jerone: ping
[16:41] <MrKanister> Hi. I have a question about the bug #304145 . Would it help If I made a patch and debdiff a debdiff?
[17:02] <crimsun> MrKanister: if you're asking if you need both, the answer is no, you don't need both.  Either will suffice.
[17:04] <MrKanister> crimsun: Thank you. I just wanted to know if it would help the bug. Do you know a good ressource about making patches to source code? Maybe a wiki page?
[17:06] <crimsun> MrKanister: there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff for debdiffs
[17:06] <crimsun> just ping if you have questions; I'm in a session ATM
[17:06] <MrKanister> ok...thanks a lot
[17:21] <Hobbsee> !ping
[17:22] <BUGabundo_work> hi Hobbsee
[17:22] <BUGabundo_work> is UDS runnig well?
[17:24] <Hobbsee> BUGabundo_work: hey there.  Seems to be :)
[19:27] <calc> can anyone close a bug as invalid?
[19:28]  * calc thinks maybe just ubuntu bug users should be able to close bugs
[19:28] <calc> some nut is going through OOo bugs and is closing upstream bugs as 'this is not a ubuntu bug, this is a openoffice problem
[19:28]  * calc wonders if the user is a 5-a-day abuser or something similiarly crack
[19:29] <crimsun> calc: check the activity log
[19:30] <calc> he's closed at least 3 bugs in OOo alone for bad reasons
[19:31] <calc> crimsun: user activity or something else?
[19:31] <calc> user activity would be good to see to revert problems like this user
[19:31] <calc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~sebastiancobaleda
[19:32] <thekorn> he is not doind 5-a-day
[19:32] <calc> thekorn: ok
[19:32] <calc> i think we are lucky then ;-)
[19:32] <calc> otherwise 5 new 'invalid' bugs a day :\
[19:33] <thekorn> I think we should try to contact and ask user why they are doing things the wrong way,
[19:34] <thekorn> is there some bad documentation,
[19:34] <thekorn> or understanding of docs
[19:34] <calc> thekorn: yea, i just told him in a bug report not to do it anymore, but someone more accustomed to dealing with new people should talk to him :)
[19:35] <thekorn> hehe, ok can you give me some bug numbers?
[19:41] <calc> 306925
[19:41] <calc> i'll see if i can get the others quickly
[19:42] <thekorn> 220703
[19:42] <rockstar> calc, I don't see anything out of the ordinary in that one.
[19:42] <thekorn> is the one with your comment ;)
[19:42] <calc> thekorn: yea i just found that one again
[19:42] <calc> thekorn: i wasn't completely calm but refrained from getting myself in trouble ;-)
[19:43] <calc> rockstar: he closed it invalid with his comment, i reopened it already
[19:43] <calc> now if it is actually fixed in 3.0 which is still waiting in jaunty to build then it can be closed at that point
[19:43] <calc> but it shouldn't have been closed already telling the user to just install 3.0
[19:44] <calc> and it should have been closed as fix released instead of invalid if it is indeed fixed
[19:45] <maco> want me to install 3.0 and see if it breaks with normal usage patterns established at least 15 years ago that say if you want to retain ratio, you hold down shift while resizing?
[19:45] <calc> and resizing images that way in 3.0 doesn't keep aspect ratio either, at least afaict
[19:45] <calc> maco: ah shift?
[19:46] <calc> yea shift works :)
[19:46] <maco> yes, shift has always been the way to keep ratio
[19:46] <maco> going back to microsoft paint for win95 at least
[19:47] <calc> maco: ah i don't do much with word processing myself just developer stuff
[19:47] <calc> maco: but yes it works with 3.0 in the ppa
[19:47] <calc> so i updated and documented the shift bit in the bug, thanks!
[19:47] <maco> shift works with 2.4 as wll
[19:47] <calc> oh it does? hmm then no bug at all then i guess
[19:48] <maco> if there's a bug at all, its that the help doesnt say it
[19:48] <maco> so we just need to see if the help says it
[19:48] <calc> marked invalid again explaining why it is invalid (that it already works in 2.4.1 in Intrepid)
[19:49]  * calc probably should go back to paying attention to the UDS session he is in
[19:49] <crimsun> calc: mostly settled
[19:50] <calc> crimsun: ok
[20:16] <sschoonmaker> I think this is a glx bug here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:19] <sschoonmaker> this worked fine in 8.04 before I upgraded to 8.10
[20:19] <sschoonmaker> now it won't open any glx windows whatsoever
[22:12] <Flare183> bug 306974
[22:12] <Flare183> Hass anyone looked at that one yet?
[23:12] <azimout> has anyone ever encountered squashfs errors from the livecd that were not hardware failures?
[23:15] <maco> azimout: does the cd being a bad burn count as a hardware failure?
[23:15] <maco> because bad cd and bad cd drive are the only reasons ive encountered
[23:16] <azimout> yes, everything under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors
[23:40] <_Zeus_> hey, what should I do with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/homebank/+bug/306967
[23:40] <_Zeus_> I was thinking to politely tell him that this is the wrong place to report it, but then i thought maybe we oculd upstream it
[23:40] <_Zeus_> what should i do?
[23:41] <chrisccoulson> Homebank upstream uses launchpad as its bug tracker
[23:41] <maco> _Zeus_: just upstream it
[23:41] <chrisccoulson> and that bug only has an upstream task
[23:41] <_Zeus_> ok, how do i do that?  subscribe someone else?
[23:41] <chrisccoulson> its not registered against ubuntu at all
[23:42] <_Zeus_> right, i noticed that
[23:42] <_Zeus_> he used getbed
[23:42] <_Zeus_> *getdeb
[23:42] <_Zeus_> wait, so how do i upstream it?
[23:42] <chrisccoulson> its already upstream
[23:43] <_Zeus_> oh, so i don't need to touch it
[23:43] <chrisccoulson> the bug is already reported against homebank upstream, which just happens to use launchpad as its bug tracker
[23:43] <azimout> homebank is in intrepid universe
[23:43] <chrisccoulson> you don't need to do anything with it
[23:43] <_Zeus_> ty
[23:44] <_Zeus_> what is this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/307010  he says that 'the link succeded on the second try'
[23:45] <_Zeus_> is that a bug?
[23:45] <maco> _Zeus_: see how it doesnt say "ubuntu" in the link?
[23:45] <maco> you can ignore it
[23:46] <_Zeus_> oops
[23:46] <chrisccoulson> maco is right - that's not an ubuntu bug either
[23:46] <chrisccoulson> you should leave that one, as other projects have different rules and may not appreciate us messing around with their bug reports
[23:46] <_Zeus_> i did, didn't notice that


[18:14] <nacc> Adnol: tel you what?
[18:14] <Adnol> are you a mod
[18:14] <Bashing-om> belgianguy: Per AMD : http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx you do want the amdgpu-PRO driver .
[18:14] <nacc> Adnol: that's not relevant
[18:14] <wish_> Hes name is Mr Torvald
[18:14] <Adnol> ye but i must know
[18:14] <Adnol> yee*
[18:14] <Adnol> its important to me
[18:14] <Adnol> bro
[18:15] <belgianguy> Bashing-om, is there a specific advantage to it?
[18:16] <Adnol> :(
[18:17] <Bashing-om> belgianguy: Sorry, can not advise in that respect as I do not run AMD graphics .
[18:17] <Adnol> bashing-om
[18:17] <Adnol> i got a question
[18:17] <Furai> Fingers crossed, upgrading my machine from 16.04 to 16.10 and then to 17.04. Yeah, I know it's non-LTS.
[18:18] <pressure679> I suspect apparmor is acting up (some privilege issue), maybe Fedora with selinux will make it easier for me.
[18:18] <Adnol> can somebody help me please?
[18:18] <Pici> Adnol: with?
[18:18] <Adnol> what is eveyrone talking about
[18:19] <jushur> just ban him now, dont feed the troll any more.
[18:19] <Pici> Adnol: Presumably helping other Ubuntu users with their issues.
[18:19] <Adnol> ivE SAID IM NOT TROLLING FUCKING 10 TIMES OK?
[18:19] <Adnol> STFU JUSHUR BITCH
[18:20] <Adnol> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[18:20] <Adnol> WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP CALLIMG ME A TROLL?
[18:21] <kunji> wish_: Have you tried rebooting yet, I sometimes have sound issue that I can't seem to fix other ways.
[18:21] <scottjl> thanks pici
[18:21] <kunji> *issues
[18:22] <tripelb> Arnold go to the web and please read the help page on unity (someone, the link)
[18:42] <elichai2> hey I have a problem with .bashrc so I'm trying to debug it with `bash -x 2> out` but out stays empty
[18:43] <geez[m]> tgm4883: I don't know I left school quite some time ago
[18:43] <elichai2> (although running bash -x prints lots of stuff )
[18:43] <CrazySane> elichai2: what are you trying to fix?
[18:43] <tgm4883> geez[m]: um, ok
[18:44] <elichai2> CrazySane: some kind of endless loop
[18:44] <geez[m]> tgm4883: @freenode_tgm4883:matrix.org 18:02
[18:44] <geez[m]> geez, is there no school today?
[18:44] <CrazySane> elichai2: can you describe the problem that you believe it causing / the root of this loop? When does it happen?
[18:44] <geez[m]> Sorry I couldn't resist ;)
[18:45] <tgm4883> geez[m]: ok then
[18:45] <elichai2> CrazySane: when i'm openning a terminal it's stuck until I do ctrl+c, and when I run bash -x I can see stuff running again and again
[18:45] <elichai2> so I want to debug what causes that
[18:45] <elichai2> bash -x  |& more also doesn't work
[18:45] <CrazySane> elichai2: can you do this:   cat .bashrc | pastebinit   and give us the link?
[18:46] <CrazySane> ah
[18:46] <CrazySane> nm
[18:47] <CrazySane> well, maybe - lemme look at that anyway.
[18:49] <elichai2> CrazySane: the problem is it's calling more files so it will be impossible for you to debug i, why the fuck I can't save the stderr to a file
[18:50] <CrazySane> Perhaps someone else can help you with stderr.
[18:50] <CrazySane> get that solved first.
[18:51] <elichai2> found the problem
[18:51] <elichai2> When I moved to KDE .profile file stopped running by itself so I added to bashrc to source .profile
[18:52] <elichai2> So it turns out that one file that .profile runed called .bashrc LOL
[18:52] <elichai2> *ran
[18:53] <elichai2> i'll sort my bash files out
[18:53] <elichai2> in which file I should change the PATH?
[18:53] <nacc> elichai2: what your language, please
[18:54] <elichai2> nacc: sorry, just frustrated
[18:54] <Oderus> hey. I have a file installed thats marked for autoremove, that i want to keep. how can i tell the system that it's a keeper?
[18:54] <nacc> elichai2: PATH is usually set in .bashrc
[18:54] <elichai2> not in .profile?
[18:54] <pressure679> I got to say 1 thing about Ubuntu, you get good at making mistakes when configuring the system, and better at reverting those mistakes.
[18:54] <nacc> elichai2: by defaut on ubuntu, .profile just sources .bashrc
[18:55] <nacc> elichai2: for bash
[18:55] <nacc> elichai2: and expands PATH to use $HOME/bin
[18:55] <elichai2> nacc: sinced I moved to KDE(Konsole) .profile isn't sourced automatically
[18:55] <nacc> elichai2: .profile is for login shells, .bashrc is for every bash session
[18:55] <nacc> elichai2: did you create a .bash_profile or .bash_login ?
[18:56] <nacc> Oderus: use `apt-mark` or specify to manual install it (`apt install <pkgname>`)
[18:56] <elichai2> I have a .bash_profile
[18:56] <elichai2> I didn't create it but I have
[18:56] <Oderus> nacc: thank you
[18:56] <nacc> elichai2: .bash_profile means that .profile isn't read
[18:57] <elichai2> damn it, something called linuxbrew created it
[18:57] <elichai2> i'm sorry
[18:57] <elichai2> i'll try to delete this file and rerun terminal
[18:57] <nacc> elichai2: yeah, unrelated to konsole i'm guessing
[18:58] <elichai2> changed it to .bash_profile_old but still it doesn't run .profile
[18:59] <compdoc> what about permissions and owner?
[18:59] <elichai2> I got these now: .bash_aliases  .bash_history  .bash_logout  .bash_profile_old  .bashrc  .bashrc.save
[18:59] <elichai2> compdoc: 644
[19:00] <reinstall> does 16.04 have clean reinstall feature, or do I need a cd or usb stick to reinstall it? I don't have access to the machine in question right now
[19:00] <rdanter> elichai2: it's been a while since I used KDE, but in general .profile is used when you log in and .bashrc is run every time you open a shell (including a konsole)
[19:01] <msklap> .
[19:01] <elichai2> ok, i'll log out, be back in a sec
[19:02] <Bashing-om> reinstall: A re-install takes an outside medium .
[19:02] <reinstall> ok, thanks
[19:03] <Bashing-om> !install | reinstall  pxe might work for ya ?
[19:04] <ioria> reinstall, alternative: download mini.iso and boot it from grub
[19:04] <t0by> gotta love mini.iso
[19:06] <elichai2> nacc: rdanter, it worked :)
[19:06] <elichai2> thank you
[19:06]  * elichai2 thanks nacc rdanter
[19:06] <nacc> elichai2: np
[19:06] <rdanter> cool :)
[19:07] <rdanter> you may be able to configure konsole to run as a login shell each time, but usually that is not necessary
[19:08] <bodhi> hi!
[19:08] <Komputerfreak> hi
[19:09] <Afdal> Hi, I'm having a problem that isn't exclusive to *ubuntu but seems to be a more general linux problem and I'm not sure where to get some help about it.  I recently got a new motherboard and the PCI wireless card I'm using which used to work fine now has system instability problems.  I keep getting freezes that only happen when the wi-fi service is on with the card connected.  I tested out an installation of Void Linux to see
[19:11] <Afdal> By which I mean this old PCI wireless card worked fine on my old motherboard but is now giving me trouble with this new motherboard.
[19:11] <Afdal> I'm on Windows XP right now and haven't gotten any system freezes so it appears to be a linux issue
[19:12] <nabblet> ducasse: nacc tomreyn follow up on my issue with the conflicting 3rd party packages: After a lot of digging (bitlevel back is not as easy as I thought) I found in a login-walled wiki: Yeah, we broek apt-get, just force-install it. -.-
[19:12] <ioria> windows xp
[19:12] <nacc> nabblet: awesome
[19:13] <nacc> Afdal: is it possible it's just an old card not supported by modern OS?
[19:13] <maillly> hi
[19:13] <nacc> Afdal: isn't XP also dead?
[19:13] <nacc> Afdal: so not sure it's a valid test case
[19:13] <nabblet> nacc: well... not awesome but it is a solution :) Awesome would be a not-broken apt :)
[19:13] <Afdal> nope, it's working fine :)
[19:13] <maillly> What is the easiest and most elegant way to set a systemwide dns server to be used??
[19:13] <maillly> ideally without touching the rest of network settings (shudders in fear)
[19:14] <nacc> nabblet: awesome meant sarcastically, sorry
[19:14] <Afdal> No, it's not that nacc.  This old wireless card worked just fine on the current ubuntu and other linux distros when I was using my old motherboard just last month
[19:14] <nacc> Afdal: sounds like a hardware issue?
[19:14] <nacc> Afdal: anything in dmesg?
[19:15] <Afdal> Yeah but what?  I can't figure out how to deal with this.  What's dmesg?
[19:15] <Afdal> The only options related to networking I've seen in my BIOS are for UEFI support
[19:16] <nacc> !dmesg | Afdal
[19:16] <nabblet> nacc: my sarcastidector died sometime today afternoon X_x Thanks for your help previously though!
[19:16] <nacc> nabblet: np
[19:16] <Afdal> mm
[19:16] <wedgie> i'm trying to do a source build of a package per the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Recommended_alternative_to_pinning Doing this on 16.04 trying to build a package from 17.04 sources. But its failing. Any suggestions? output: https://gist.github.com/wedge-jarrad/a8dd713ba3f0be04192b1c466b921db2
[19:16] <Afdal> Well lemme hop back on ubuntu and try that out
[19:17] <Afshaal> dmesg
[19:17] <Afshaal> right
[19:17] <Komputerfreak> oh a sarcastidetector - a very useful device. *sarcastidetector explodes*
[19:17] <nacc> wedgie: you're trying to build the 17.04 openconnect on 16.04?
[19:17] <wedgie> nacc: correct
[19:18] <pavlos> Afdal: you could boot off a live usb and see if your wifi pci card is working ...
[19:18] <Afshaal> yeah what's interesting is
[19:18] <wedgie> the version in 16.04 doesn't work with recent pulse vpn releases, which became a problem for me as of this morning :)
[19:18] <Afshaal> I have never had any freezes off a liveusb
[19:18] <nacc> wedgie: you can't without backports
[19:18] <Afshaal> What could that mean?
[19:18] <Afshaal> Afdal here, btw
[19:18] <ioria> !info debhelper xenial
[19:18] <ONY> I was doing on frquent item mining
[19:19] <wedgie> so i need to install debhelper from backports first?
[19:19] <Afshaal> Okay, so what am I looking for in this dmesg output
[19:19] <Afshaal> that's a ton of stuff here
[19:22] <nacc> Afshaal: pastebin it
[19:22] <nacc> wedgie: i guess? i don't think this is really a support topic :)
[19:22] <ONY> I want to modify the code
[19:23] <Afshaal> kinda difficult to pastebin it
[19:23] <wedgie> nacc: where would this question be better asked?
[19:23] <Afshaal> I can't access internet without my wifi
[19:23] <Afshaal> and if I enable the wifi service it'll just freeze
[19:24] <wedgie> cause i'd really rather not update from 16.04 to 17.04 just for 1 package.
[19:25] <TikityTik> I'm using 16.04, why am I required to install nodejs-legacy to use the "node" command? I thought I only needed the nodejs package.
[19:28] <ONY> from pprint import pprint def FrequentElements( elements = [], transactions = [], minSup = 0.5, debug = False ):     """ This function get as input the list of the element to be tested, the list of transactions and the values of minimun support.         The function returns a dictionary that has as keys the frequent elements and values a list with the count and the support     """      frequencies = {};     allFrequencies = {};     labe
[19:29] <nacc> ONY: are you in the wrong channel?
[19:29] <nacc> ONY: this is ubuntu support, not python
[19:29] <nacc> TikityTik: because in debian/ubuntu it's /usr/bin/nodejs
[19:29] <nacc> TikityTik: read `apt show nodejs-legacy`
[19:29] <ONY> nacc how do i get python support
[19:30] <nacc> ONY: ask in a python channel?
[19:30] <__Yiota> #python
[19:30] <nacc> !alis | grep ONY
[19:30] <__Yiota> ONY join #python paste your code in bpaste.net paste link
[19:30] <nacc> wedgie: not sure, but i don't think you can trivially build that version without bumping your debhelper version
[19:30] <Afshaal> what's that handy terminal command to dump output straight to pastebin or something else again
[19:31] <ONY> thank you all
[19:31] <nacc> !pastebinit | Afshaal
[19:31] <EriC^^> Afshaal: command | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:31] <Afshaal> ah
[19:31] <Afshaal> thanks
[19:31] <nacc> Afshaal: or nc termbin.com 9999, what EriC^^ said :)
[19:31] <wedgie> nacc: yeah, seems like installing debhelper from backports fixed the build-dep step, but i'm still getting the same error message with sudo apt-get -b source -t zesty openconnect   I suspect i'm missing something basic
[19:31] <nacc> wedgie: uh, that one is exactly what it says
[19:31] <nacc> wedgie: you don't have any zesty sources on your machine
[19:31] <nacc> wedgie: you shouldnt build this on your machine, btw
[19:32] <nacc> wedgie: use a lxd or chroot or something
[19:32] <nacc> wedgie: no sense in mucking with your host, which will eventually break things probably :)
[19:32] <ioria> wedgie, do you have the zesty source entry in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:32] <Afshaal> Okay, here's my dmesg output: http://termbin.com/uiw1
[19:33] <nacc> Afshaal: well that says your wifi is working
[19:33] <wedgie> ioria: yes. Well, i added it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/zesty.list   which i assume is equivilent
[19:33] <Afshaal> :(
[19:33] <Afshaal> it freezes even though it's working
[19:34] <Komputerfreak> which driver?
[19:34] <Afshaal> After much trial and error I managed to isolate the system freezing to wifi
[19:34] <ioria> wedgie, idk,  when i built xchat on zesti i needed to add the trusty source repo in sources.list ....
[19:34] <wedgie> nacc: i think that if i can't get the source package to buid i'll just pull upstream source and just build that manually
[19:35] <Afshaal> When my wireless card is plugged in and the wi-fi service is enabled it'll freeze after a while.  No freezes when it's disabled
[19:35] <maillly> hi
[19:35] <wedgie> ioria: this line, yes? deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty main universe restricted multiverse
[19:35] <wedgie> i guess i can move it into sources.list instead
[19:35] <nacc> wedgie: did you run `apt update` after that?
[19:35] <maillly> Where can I find the lmtp command/LMTP client? Is there an Ubuntu package for it? I found its man page, but not the package/comamnd in Ubuntu xenial yet...
[19:35] <ioria> wedgie,let's try
[19:35] <maillly> http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/lmtp8.html
[19:35] <wedgie> nacc: yes
[19:35] <wedgie> ioria: ok.
[19:36] <ioria> wedgie, run apt update after
[19:36] <ioria> wedgie, you know it's not recommended , right ?
[19:36] <wedgie> ioria: same result
[19:36] <nacc> wedgie: um, you have to have a deb line itself too
[19:36] <nacc> wedgie: i think
[19:37] <nacc> wedgie: did you reaad `man apt-get`?
[19:37] <ioria> wedgie,  apt-get source openconnect
[19:37] <wedgie> ioria: lol, heading in the help link litearlly labels it "recommended", though i see your point
[19:37] <nacc> wedgie: -t tells apt to have a runtime pin to a release, which means you need to have told it about the release
[19:38] <ioria> wedgie,  oh, right it takes the xenial one .... comment the xenial source
[19:39] <wedgie> ioria: i don't think i have any xenial source repos. the zesty one is the only deb-src I have
[19:39] <nacc> ioria: my undrestanding is wedgie wants to build the zesty version on xenial. I believe to use -t with apt, you have to have deb lines for the specified release. and to get the build-deps from zesty, you would use deb-src, but that is wrong in this case
[19:39] <nacc> wedgie: i don't think you want to use deb-src from zesty
[19:39] <nacc> wedgie: as that won't be installable on xenial
[19:39] <ioria> nacc, right
[19:39] <nacc> wedgie: oh you're just trying to get hte source package form zesty?
[19:39] <nacc> wedgie: i think there are better ways to do that :) `pull-lp-source openconnect zesty`
[19:41] <wedgie> nacc: the end goal is to get openconnect version 7.08 (or higher). In the least painful way possible :)
[19:42] <nacc> wedgie: not that i at all recommend it, but have you tried adding zesty and pinning just openconnect?
[19:42] <nacc> wedgie: knowing that you are unsupported here at that point (or with your source method)
[19:42] <nacc> wedgie: that method is recommended as an *alternative* to pinning, not recommended generally
[19:43] <wedgie> nacc: well, pinning is what i was looking at initially, but the instructions for pinning told me that it was a terrible idea and that building the source packages was better. So here I am
[19:43] <wedgie> i'm thinking just grabbing the source directly from openconnect and building it manually might be the path of least resistance at this point
[19:44] <ioria> wedgie,  i just added the zesty repo and i got source of openconnect Version 7.08-1 ....
[19:45] <wedgie> ioria: deb, in addition to deb-src?
[19:46] <ioria> wedgie,  no, just the source .... you need to build it ... (don't think it'll work ... )
[19:46] <nacc> wedgie: i stand by doing all this in a new environment
[19:46] <wedgie> hmm, ok
[19:46] <nacc> wedgie: regardless of which path you choose
[19:46] <wedgie> well, maybe today's the day for the upgrade to 17.04 afterall :P
[19:47] <wedgie> cause i can't vpn to do my actual work until i get this resolved
[19:47] <ioria> wedgie,  yep, a /etc/vpnc/vpnc-script error
[19:47] <wedgie> ok. well, thank you both for all of your suggestions and help. I really do appreciate it
[19:48] <ioria> wedgie,  i'am just wondering why you can't get the source ...
[19:49] <wedgie> ioria: not sure. Never tried anything like this before. I just followed the instructions from the link in my original question *shrug*
[19:52] <OnceMe> after upgrading to 16.04 from 14.04 vlc was missing (not upgraded). I have installed it and vlc works, however when I play videos, video is pixalated. I google a bit and this is a known 16.04 issue with nvidia driver, I have amd (I Believe) so is there any driver to install to fix this issue?
[19:53] <fou> clear
[19:53] <Afshaal> what kind of videos/codecs OnceMe?
[19:53] <ioria> wedgie,  ah, ok i'am not talking about the automatic build, just the source : apt-get source <package>
[19:53] <OnceMe> Afshaal: of video file?
[19:53] <OnceMe> file video is video/x-matroska
[19:55] <Afshaal> Go into VLC and do Tools -> Codec information
[19:55] <wedgie> ioria: oh. THAT does work.
[19:55] <Afshaal> Does this happen on all types of video files that you try to play or just .mkv?
[19:55] <OnceMe> Afshaal: all types
[19:55] <Afshaal> Does this happen on all the kinds of codecs used that you try to play?
[19:55] <OnceMe> I upgraded to 16.04 because I wanted to use lib254
[19:55] <Afshaal> mmhmm
[19:55] <ioria> wedgie,  enter the openconnect-7.08 folder, and try a ./configure
[19:56] <DocMAX> does anyone know the fastes way to stream games? (like nvidia gamesteam streaming). only buildin tools like x11vnc, xpra,... not steam for linux please
[19:56] <Afshaal> but does it happen when you try to play a VP8, H.264, DivX type video?
[19:56] <Afshaal> or only H.265?
[19:56] <wedgie> ioria: think i'm seeing the same vpnc-script error that you mentioned. I'll look into that. Thanks!
[19:56] <OnceMe> H.265 lib*
[19:56] <OnceMe> Afshaal: happens on every video
[19:56] <OnceMe> when I skip to the certain part of video, its just slow
[19:56] <Afshaal> Did you grab VLC from the xenial repository?
[19:56] <OnceMe> and I have video on ssd
[19:56] <ioria> wedgie,  good luck (what ever you do, don't run sudo make install) :þ
[19:57] <OnceMe> yap
[19:57] <Afshaal> hmm
[19:57] <wedgie> hah, ok
[19:57] <OnceMe> I purged the old one, removed .config/vlc/
[19:57] <OnceMe> and installed it again, no luck
[19:57] <Afshaal> not sure what your problem could be
[19:57] <OnceMe> I have amd
[19:57] <Afshaal> I have a problem with 16.04 video of my own but it's not the same
[19:57] <Afshaal> my issue is VLC and most other players I try to use give a garbled picture when I try to play back protected DVDs
[19:58] <Afshaal> but those aren't video files
[19:58] <Afshaal> Have you tried any other players?
[19:58] <Afshaal> to see if it's a systemic problem or just VLC
[19:59] <OnceMe> Afshaal: yeah
[19:59] <OnceMe> works fine in totem movie player
[19:59] <OnceMe> something lags for vlc
[19:59] <OnceMe> not sure what, if  I need some plugin
[19:59] <ducasse> Afshaal: because you need libdvdcss
[20:00] <OnceMe> what do I need?
[20:01] <Afshaal> nah it's not libdvdcss
[20:01] <Afshaal> I tried that
[20:01] <ducasse> OnceMe: no idea, i don't even know what your issue is.
[20:01] <Afshaal> it's not totally garbled, it's basically a checkboard pattern on the picture
[20:01] <Afshaal> but one media player works but I can't remember the name
[20:02] <Afshaal> You know there's a vlc IRC channel
[20:02] <Afshaal> you could try asking there
[20:02] <Afshaal>  #vlc
[20:02] <OnceMe> ok seems I fixed it
[20:03] <Afshaal> What was the fix?
[20:03] <Afshaal> congrats
[20:03] <OnceMe> video output should be X11 (XCB) instead of Automatic
[20:03] <Afshaal> :o
[20:03] <OnceMe> tools -> video -> choose correct option
[20:03] <OnceMe> weird but it works
[20:03] <OnceMe> https://askubuntu.com/a/819588
[20:10] <daniel__> nabend
[20:21] <capum321> hello
[20:22] <capum321> what is the flash most secure package now available? the canonical partner one?
[20:22] <maillly> capum321: Chrome Flash
[20:22] <maillly> chrome browser comes with its own patched flash - but google plans to phase it out, too
[20:22] <maillly> maybe convert to html5? there are some tools for this
[20:22] <maillly> when conversion worked well you can use it from thereon in browser
[20:23] <maillly> maybe even improve/fix it in contrast to a swf binary thingy
[20:23] <capum321> maillly: can't convert, it's is my college virtual study environment
[20:23] <capum321> maillly: so i have firefox, forgot to mention!
[20:23] <maillly> capum321: ah, corporate stuff XD
[20:23] <maillly> flash is phased out heavily now
[20:23] <maillly> maybe adobe flash player from their site?
[20:28] <capum321> do you want to make some rampage search with me?
[20:29] <capum321> i have this ones seen on apt-cache: adobe-flashplugin  flashplugin-installer  browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[20:31] <Connor> Running 14.04 with gnome-flashback.  Dual Head.  When I do Alt-Tab to switch to different windows.. the task-switcher will appear on the same monitor that had a window with focus.  In my 12.04 install.. It was always my primary monitor.  I like the primary monitor behavior better.  Any way to change this ?
[20:32] <Connor> In CCSM I've tried both Application Switcher and Static Application Switcher and they both do the same thing.
[20:44] <jaythelinuxguy> I'm running Ubuntu GNOME 17.04. I've been unable to start ntp via systemctl, I get ntp.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. I tried reinstalling ntp and purging its config, but this process cannot start. I seem to be the only one with this issue as Google searches turn up nothing. Ubuntu 16.04 on this same machine had no issue though
[20:50] <oynox> hello there! is it okay to throw a quick question in here?
[20:50] <wedgie> that's what we're here for :)
[20:51] <Bizzeh> technically, we are here because we are bored and cant think of anything else to do, and sometimes, if questions are asked, and we know the answer, and we can be bothered answering, we answer them
[20:51] <oynox> after lengthy thinking about which distro to use I came to the conclusion to stop thinking and just start with ubuntu since the support resources are so big
[20:52] <oynox> I would like to install ubuntu as dual boot next to my Windows 10 OS since I simply need it and do not want to make a complete switch yet
[20:52] <DarkPsydeLord> jaythelinuxguy, ntp daemon works?
[20:52] <oynox> but during the installation process, I do not get the option to "install ubuntu next to the existing OS"
[20:52] <jaythelinuxguy> DarkPsydeLord the daemon doesn't evne start
[20:52] <oynox> how it is shown in so many screenshots.
[20:53] <Bizzeh> oynox: is your windows drive bitlocker encrypted? or, any other whole disc encryption?
[20:53] <oynox> I don't have a clue how to check it. I freshly reinstalled Win 10 some days ago.
[20:53] <oynox> Secure boot is disabled
[20:54] <oynox> I actually do not understand the whole EFI topic and I am not sure if something around that is the reason for the problem
[20:54] <YankDownUnder> oynox, In MS Windows - one of the best "secrets" is to completely turn off hiberation + "fast boot" & "fast shutdown" => they're actually the same as "hibernation" but merely rebranded - but they cause issues with non-NTFS based systems...ergo, sometimes linux based OS's will have issues in trying to either identify or mount the NTFS partition.
[20:55] <Bizzeh> isnt hybernation just a huge swap-like file on the ntfs partition? how would it cause problems?
[20:56] <oynox> do you mean turn that off in the BIOS?
[20:58] <YankDownUnder> Bizzeh, It causes particular "partition flags" to be flipped - you can read through the information on the ntfs-3g pages...ANY "hibernation" causes the NTFS file system to appear "locked"...there are severe ways around it, and corruption "can and most likely will" happen...it's yet another means by which NTFS likes to be unfriendly...hmm...
[20:58] <ChaiTRex> Bizzeh: It's not safe to touch a hibernated system, since it might have been halfway through a write to a regular file.
[20:58] <YankDownUnder> oynox, If you read what I wrote, I stated IN WINDOWS.
[20:58] <Whiskey> How do i delete every folder in a root folder espect from a folder whit a name of my choise?
[20:58] <Whiskey> whit cronjob
[20:59] <Bizzeh> YankDownUnder: what is the issue with a readonly mount, given that all you are doing is checking for the existance of maybe \windows\system32 and  maybe a few other checks
[20:59] <oynox> oh alright, I will try that
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> Bizzeh, In some instances, "installers" will "freak out" - amongst other things...either which, if anything, research and you'll see what I mean.
[21:01] <Bizzeh> ahh ok
[21:01] <DarkPsydeLord> jaythelinuxguy, ntpd not giving an error or something
[21:01] <Bizzeh> also, while im asking stuff... what happened wubi?
[21:01] <Whiskey> no one?
[21:01] <DarkPsydeLord> jaythelinuxguy, can you check on the log?
[21:02] <YankDownUnder> "wubi" died of "lack of development"...that being said, other utilities can do the same and more...
[21:02] <ducasse> Bizzeh: it died because nobody loved it anymore.
[21:02] <DarkPsydeLord> jaythelinuxguy, i have it working with "systemctl stop ntpd &" on the first run
[21:02] <Bizzeh> ducasse: that sucks.. was the perfect tool for intruducing noobs
[21:04] <ducasse> Bizzeh: never used it, so i have no opinion. iirc it would have needed extensive development to work with uefi and/or windows 8 and later.
[21:04] <Bizzeh> ahh ok
[21:05] <tgm4883> It performed horribly, it was not a good tool
[21:05] <Bizzeh> just thought it was a good idea that you could install ubuntu like any other windows application, like people already know how to do... then reboot, and be able to choose to use ubuntu
[21:05] <ChaiTRex> It would be nice if they updated the minimal CD to work with UEFI systems.
[21:06] <YankDownUnder> "Wubi" - according to "seasoned users" - sucked dry bones...that being said, because it was "the bee's knees" for Windows folks, it gained a particular image...regardless of the reality of it's operation/usage...
[21:07] <Bizzeh> YankDownUnder: it was a zero knowledge entry barrier
[21:07] <Bizzeh> where as to install ubuntu now, you need to know how to install an OS
[21:07] <Bizzeh> which most of the population of the planet, cant/wont do
[21:08] <YankDownUnder> Bizzeh, That's not the fault of the overally linux community - you can thank Microsoft for consistently causing issues with OEM's and versions of UEFI and the NTFS file system...otherwise, the linux community hasn't changed...
[21:09] <Bizzeh> "the linux community hasn't changed", isnt that the problem with the linux community?
[21:09] <Bizzeh> an unwillingness to change?
[21:10] <tgm4883> Bizzeh: pushing forward an option that is bad (see performance issues) just because it's easy is a bad choice.
[21:10] <tgm4883> In any case, this is all offtopic and should be moved to #ubuntu-discuss
[21:11] <YankDownUnder> Bizzeh, Shift the paradigm the other way, mate. View it from the alternate angle. If you're "pro Microsoft", you see linux as the failure. Then there is an inherent subliminal contempt aimed at anything non-Microsoft...hmm...EITHER WHICH, back to normal operations.
[21:12] <Bizzeh> im pro microsoft, doesnt mean i am anti-linux or see linux as a failure
[21:13] <Bizzeh> and, being pro-linux should not be synonymous with anti-ms too, though you do see it being very polarising where it should not be
[21:14] <tgm4883> !ot
[21:16] <sansay> Hey has anyone installed nginx with pagespeed? im having issues and im not exactly sure whats wrong. The install script runs fine but nginx doesnt seem to be installed
[21:19] <DoYouKnow> hi. I have perhaps a dumb question, but I've never figured out how to do this before
[21:19] <DoYouKnow> how do I do something like VB Audio Cable does where you have an audio input device routed to an audio output on ubuntu with alsa/pulse?
[21:19] <DoYouKnow> without jack
[21:20] <DoYouKnow> which I can't figure out, and hate with a passion
[21:21] <DoYouKnow> I want a loopback, I think
[21:22] <DoYouKnow> basically one device on audio in that goes directly to a similarly named device on audio out
[21:23] <DoYouKnow> does JACK even work in the latest ubuntu?
[21:23] <DoYouKnow> last I tried it, it was broke
[21:26] <tony1> when I was using ubuntu 16.04LTS I was not having issues with my openvpn server and the push options from the server using network-manager. ever since upgrading to ubuntu 17.04 I have issues with network-manager not using the dns server of the tunnel. any workarounds? I can do it from the cmd line with openvpn-systemd-resolved and it will work with a few errors but I would rather use "NM" I am using ubuntu
[21:26] <ChaiTRex> DoYouKnow: Have you tried running pavucontrol and messing around with things?
[21:26] <tony1> 17.04 with gnome desktop
[21:27] <tony1> systemd-resolve seems is causing allot of issues?
[21:27] <ChaiTRex> DoYouKnow: It might not help with the loopback, but you might be able to enable the jack.
[21:30] <Afdal> okay I've tested a fairly good chunk of time now.  It seems my wifi does not cause system freezes during LiveUSB ubuntu.  It's only during an installed ubuntu session.
[21:30] <Afdal> What does that indicate?
[21:31] <faisal> Hello!
[21:32] <Whiskey> find /home/whiskey/.znc/users/IRCNetworks-User/networks/freenode/moddata/log ! -name '#channel' -type d -exec rm -rf {} + <- Why does that delete the folder #channel when i try to ignore it from getting deleted?
[21:34] <ChaiTRex> Whiskey: I don't know, but the man page says it might need protection from the shell: ! expr True if expr is false.  This character will also usually need protection from interpretation by the shell.
[21:35] <ppf> Whiskey: escape the bang: '!'
[21:36] <Whiskey> you mean \!
[21:37] <ppf> same difference
[21:37] <Whiskey> well it still deletes the folder
[21:37] <ppf> does it delete other folders as well?
[21:37] <jappish> hey guys, I'm trying to rescue some files from a macbook with the ubuntu live cd.. can't seem to mount the drive, keep getting "wrong fs type"
[21:37] <ChaiTRex> Whiskey: You can replace rm -rf with echo to see what gets canned.
[21:37] <jappish> followed this guide https://jclark.org/weblog/2005/05/24/ubuntumount/
[21:38] <Whiskey> well the log folder gets scanned
[21:38] <jappish> found the drive /dev/sda2
[21:38] <ChaiTRex> Whiskey: See if #channel is being deleted directly or indirectly for one thing.
[21:38] <ppf> Whiskey: also escape the braces: '{}'
[21:38] <ppf> for good measure
[21:38] <Whiskey> -> /home/whiskey/.znc/users/IRCNetworks-User/networks/freenode/moddata/log/ <- think thats the problem
[21:38] <Whiskey> as it will match every folder
[21:39] <Whiskey> oooo
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> jappish, LIve CD or Live USB? Just wondering...
[21:39] <Whiskey> find /home/whiskey/.znc/users/IRCNetworks-User/networks/freenode/moddata/log/* -type d ! -name '#channel' <- think that does it
[21:40] <schahermacher> why in my ubuntu add a vpn connection option is not available in network manager and how can i fix it?
[21:40] <jappish> YankDownUnder: Live USB 17
[21:42] <YankDownUnder> jappish, You should be able to "install" the "hfsplus" and "hfsprogs" - which will allow reading an HPFS volume easily...
[21:44] <math677> i pasted the contents of some html file to libreoffice and the syntax remained perfectly intact in it, but if i copy for example some sentence like "It was good.", it gets pasted elsewhere as "it was good"
[21:44] <math677> there seems to be direct formatting applied
[21:44] <math677> how can i copy the text with the direct formatting also, so that the capitals remain
[21:44] <jappish> YankDownUnder: yeah, I read about that, thing is, no ethernet adapter detected... just remembered I have a USB to ethernet adapter.. will give it a shot
[21:45] <tony1> schahermacher: you need to install the plugin from packages
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> jappish, If the LiveUSB was setup for "persistence" - you can use it on another machine and add/update software on the USB - which obviously can then be used on other machines...just to let ya know...
[21:48] <jappish> YankDownUnder: Ah! Thanks, didn't know that... how do I know if it was setup for persistence?
[21:49] <jappish> not sure what that means
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> jappish, Not sure how you built the USB in the first place, but there's several means by which to setup the LiveUSB to literally be a working/operational "system" - meaning that you can install/update/upgrade the software and OS on the USB as though it were a real system...which is great for doing forensics and recovery...amongst other things
[21:51] <math677> USB was built with pornography in mind, YankDownUnder
[21:51] <YankDownUnder> jappish, Something to read: https://askubuntu.com/questions/772744/how-to-make-a-live-usb-persistent
[21:51] <math677> just as google images was built as nerds needed to see jennifer lopez's hot racy versace dress
[21:53] <jappish> YankDownUnder: thanks, I made it using rufus default options
[21:53] <selsper_> what do you mnean by a persistant usb?
[21:54] <SchrodingersScat> selsper_: persistant usb normally means that there's space on the drive set for files and changes made while booted into the live environment.  So you could install packages, download things, etc.
[21:54] <SchrodingersScat> selsper_: and then it should reappear like that when rebooted
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> ...and create different users with home directories...yadda yadda yadda...
[21:54] <selsper_> ty
[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> very handy if you need to troubleshoot something where the OS got a bit wonky
[21:55] <selsper_> Yeah that would be a good thing if you fix computers then you could build a usb with a bootable troubleshooting stuff for hardware etc
[21:56] <YankDownUnder> Troubleshoot workstations, servers, networks, recover data - heaps to use it for...it's also quite nice to have a persistent USB when you're using other folks machines - so you're not mucking with THEIR machine - you're booting your own OS and everything lives happily on the USB...hmm...
[21:58] <selsper_> ty
[22:01] <tony1> you can also do a full install to a flashdrive. it will last long time.
[22:01] <TTN> so I'm trying to compile a kernel with AMD_PINCTRL disabled since my motherboard won't work with it enabled. I've got stuck on it compiling since it crashes with an error:https://pastebin.com/WcKXwNMG
[22:01] <jappish> YankDownUnder: actually, I just ran out of luck.. the mac is from a friends, friend and he spilled coffee on it.. opened it up just to see that the SSD is som 12+16 pin Apple proprietary connector... tried booting it a little while ago and was surprised it booted so I thought I'd hurry and backup everything (late here, couldn't call and ask for password)
[22:02] <jappish> not thought I'd try installing hfsplus and hfsprogs but it's not booting anymore :(
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> jappish, Can you pop out the battery?
[22:03] <jappish> now*
[22:03] <jappish> YankDownUnder: yeah, it's out
[22:03] <tony1> so no one has an answer for network-manager, systemd-resolved and openvpn?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> jappish, Reset the PRAM - keep the battery out. If you unplug the Mac from power for about 30 seconds, leave the batter out - then power it back out - that should reset the SMC - if it boots, reset the PRAM...then try again...if you wish to reset the system password, well, there's a way to do that, too...hmm...
[22:06] <soulvortex> Hi iam new to unbuntu mate does anyone to how to fix firefox and chrome flickering while scrolling its really annoying me
[22:07] <jappish> YankDownUnder: I'll try that.. no need to reset password, I can just ask him for his password tomorrow
[22:10] <soulvortex> Hi iam new to unbuntu mate does anyone to how to fix firefox and chrome flickering while scrolling its really
[22:11] <imr> that's most likely with your drivers, soulvortex
[22:12] <dennymenny> system --> preferences --> look and feel --> MATE Tweaks --> window --> change window manager to GPU
[22:12] <soulvortex> imr how do i fix it than
[22:12] <imr> or try dennymenny's solution
[22:14] <soulvortex> i dont see gpu
[22:14] <DoYouKnow> ok ubuntu's I figured out how to do it
[22:14] <DoYouKnow> I wanted to play an audio stream in vlc and listen to it with spectrum lab in wine
[22:15] <DoYouKnow> I just started the stream, recorded from pulse in spectrum lab, and opened pavucontrol and enabled the monitor
[22:15] <dennymenny> try the marco gpu option
[22:16] <DoYouKnow> thanks
[22:17] <jappish> YankDownUnder: didn't work.. I'll try again tomorrow, need to get some sleep. Thanks for the help!
[22:17] <soulvortex> thank you that fix my problem imr
[22:20] <Basho> Hey guys i've a problem
[22:27] <hipitihop> I'm on 16.04 and since last week started having odd fs io slow downs i.e. nautilus crawls as it fills list of folders. Drive is an SSD. e2fsck -vf /dev/sda1 is fine. Have checked hdd smart info and run Spinrite on drive. All ok, suggestion ?
[22:28] <hipitihop> I tried to run e2fsck on /dev/sda5 which is swap on same drive, but this complains of bad magic number.
[22:30] <YankDownUnder> hipitihop, You've checked to see what's running in the background?
[22:32] <hipitihop> YankDownUnder, sure, but it is a slow down related to file io, other operations seem to be fine i.e. it's not cpu
[22:32] <YankDownUnder> hipitihop, Just starting from the "top" and working downwards...eliminate all the bits in between to find the answer...
[22:33] <hipitihop> YankDownUnder, also whenever I reboot, it goes back to ubuntu splash panel with progress dots and stays there indefinately, so have to use emergency shutdown
[22:33] <Bashing-om> hipitihop: To relieve a bit of the anxiety - swap has no file system thus can not run a file system check on it .
[22:33] <YankDownUnder> hipitihop, Yuck...
[22:34] <hipitihop> Bashing-om, ok good to know thanks, eliminates that.
[22:34] <texa> la crypto c'est cool
[22:36] <Bashing-om> hipitihop: Anything pop out for system usage from 'top' or 'free' ? anything in the log files ?
[22:37] <hipitihop> Bashing-om, haven't gone to logs yet
[22:41] <Bashing-om> hipitihop: 'other thought . same behaviour when booting an older kernel ?
[22:43] <hipitihop> Bashing-om, it's a thought but it is a little hard to track down the trigger. iow, system boots fine and all seems to work including nautilus etc, then at some yet to be determined time, it goes awol.
[22:43] <YankDownUnder> hipitihop, Just something to read: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[22:44] <YankDownUnder> hipitihop, And also: http://www.pontikis.net/blog/tweak-ssd-ubuntu-16.04
[22:45] <hipitihop> syslog is a pain to read I get this "[ 1187.153283] input input5: event field not found" every couple of seconds. Haven't bee able to track down the source of that either
[22:46] <hipitihop> YankDownUnder, thanks, looks like some good tips there and I'll go through them, but this machine has been setup this way for years, so nothing new at least in reg to hw/setup
[22:47] <YankDownUnder> hipitihop, And aside from what I just gave you to read - I often will clear out my ~/.cache directory - logging out of the session and doing it from tty1...and (for me) I do a "sudo updatedb" to make sure the "locate database" is a happy camper...and also have tweaked out my /etc/sysctl.conf => but that's me...
[22:51] <phlix> So, I accidentally ran chmod -R 777 /var instead of chmod -R 777 var/
[22:51] <phlix> I have another ubuntu machine. There anyway to mimic the permissions from that machine to what i just messed up?
[22:52] <phlix> There anyway to do something like ls -lhR /var > permissions.txt from my good machine and then use that to update them on my bad machine?
[22:53] <nacc> phlix: they are identical machines? /var may not be identical between them
[22:53] <nacc> phlix: and you did it recursively, so not easy to recreate
[22:54] <hipitihop> YankDownUnder & Bashing-om, thanks for the input. I have a team call now sow will have to come back to this. Hope machine behaves
[22:54] <phlix> Not 100% identical. But pretty damn close.
[22:54] <nacc> phlix: also, i feel like you maybe dropped 'sudo' there, or you did a `sudo -s -H` first, and that's another reason not to a) do things as root without a backup plan and b) not to use recursive commands as root
[22:55] <nacc> phlix: i don't believe there is a trivial command to make directories match. You might be able to do something with rsync, but i'm not sure
[22:55] <phlix> ugh
[22:55] <nacc> phlix: maybe someone else does
[23:00] <stamatis> test
[23:01] <Basho> i rebooted my pc and now after grub when  i get to the login screen my keyboard doesn't work anymore
[23:04] <computeruser> in here
[23:09] <wfpkhc> hello
[23:09] <wfpkhc> anyone around?
[23:09] <blkadder> Nope, just us chickens.
[23:09] <wfpkhc> here chook chook chook :P
[23:10] <wfpkhc> i have a question
[23:10] <wfpkhc> im building a new system
[23:10] <wfpkhc> and assembling a new parts list
[23:10] <YankDownUnder> *bok* *bok*
[23:10] <YankDownUnder> New parts are always good. ;)
[23:10] <chientran> i just swith from 16.04 to 17.04 and everything more better
[23:10] <wfpkhc> google for some reason is starting to give me crap results when searching - and i cannot find any information on ubuntu wiht the "Asus ROG Rampage V Edition 10 X99, Socket 2011-v3, 8 x DIMM, 128GB, DDR4, Wifi, ATX" mobo
[23:11] <wfpkhc> does anyone here use that mobo?
[23:11] <wfpkhc> and if so - what is the compatability like?
[23:11] <wfpkhc> and are there issues?
[23:11] <chientran> in 16.04 all of extension disappear when i boot to system
[23:12] <chientran> now in 17.04 this issues does not exist
[23:12] <blkadder> wfpkhc That's pretty specific. :-)
[23:12] <wfpkhc> well its not like i can be unspecific with the hardware :P
[23:12] <chientran> i redesign a gnome shell theme
[23:12] <chientran> can i post this in here?
[23:13] <blkadder> What I mean is that the chances are that someone that happens to be using that motherboard with ubuntu being on this channel at this particular time is probably rather low.
[23:13] <YankDownUnder> chientran, Might be better to post it on gnome-look.org => that's where most folks go to get their "themes"
[23:13] <wfpkhc> ....if you never ask - you will never know :P
[23:14] <blkadder> wfpkhc True.
[23:14] <chientran> thank :)
[23:14] <wfpkhc> perhaps i have asked the wrong question
[23:14] <wfpkhc> would ubuntu have drivers for all the items on this motherboard?
[23:14] <blkadder> wfpkhc Have you seen this: https://www.asus.com/websites/global/aboutASUS/OS/Linux170105.pdf
[23:15] <wfpkhc> no sir
[23:15] <wfpkhc> but im excited to have that link
[23:15] <wfpkhc> now
[23:15] <wfpkhc> :P
[23:15] <Guest11987> exit
[23:15] <Guest11987> quit
[23:15] <wfpkhc> ouch - THERE IS NOT UBUNTU that supports that board :(
[23:15] <wfpkhc> that sucks
[23:15] <wfpkhc> sup Guest11987
[23:16] <blkadder> https://rog.asus.com/forum/tags.php?tag=ubuntu
[23:16] <wfpkhc> for me?
[23:17] <blkadder> wfpkhc Yes.
[23:17] <wfpkhc> thank you sir
[23:18] <wfpkhc> according to the first link you provided - there is no passed version test
[23:18] <wfpkhc> which sucks
[23:18] <blkadder> wfpkhc Well, that document could be old. I have no idea.
[23:18] <blkadder> Since the versions it mentions are.
[23:18] <wfpkhc> its the 5th month of 2017 :P cant be that old :P
[23:19] <wfpkhc> but that link is awesome thank you
[23:19] <blkadder> Is your MB listed?
[23:19] <YankDownUnder> wfpkhc, When I build something for a client - generally I find a board that's about a year old - which means it's got drivers and it's well supported - and ditto with the graphics card (and any other peripherals)...hard drives/SSD's and whatnot are a different story...does that make sense?
[23:19] <wfpkhc> yes sir it is - Rampage V Edition 10
[23:20] <blkadder> Then it sounds like YMMV.
[23:20] <computeruser> wfpkhc if there is kernel support for x99 then there is hope
[23:20] <blkadder> N/A could mean they haven't tested it or something.
[23:20] <computeruser> I would guess that audio might be a problem
[23:21] <computeruser> but it might not be a problem
[23:21] <blkadder> wifi would be the other one.
[23:21] <chientran> if you use newest hardware,you should using the lastest kernel
[23:21] <computeruser> you can use a supported audio card
[23:21] <wfpkhc> yes YankDownUnder - allow the developers to fix the problems - i do exactly the same when windows releases a new OS, i wait at least 12 months (preferrably longer) and wait for the REST OF THE WOLRD to catch up
[23:21] <blkadder> And any sort of fake raid.
[23:21] <computeruser> yeah stuff like that
[23:21] <computeruser> but you have pci for wifi expansions that work
[23:21] <wfpkhc> thank you computeruser - i like hope - it was in an episode 4 movie once
[23:22] <computeruser> as a last resort you can use usb audio and usb wifi
[23:22] <computeruser> pci is more hidden
[23:22] <computeruser> maybe this is a small price to pay for a really cool motherboard
[23:23] <blkadder> Yes the ROG stuff is rather high end
[23:23] <blkadder> Or at least spendy. :-)
[23:24] <computeruser> as an owner of a asus workstation mothoerboard I can say there is a sweet spot for $110 to $170 (USA) motherboards that are almost as good for overclocking as the $500 motherboards
[23:24] <wfpkhc> http://arc.com.au/product/59526
[23:24] <computeruser> I have audio over HDMI and analog audio and digital audio on the 3.5mm
[23:24] <computeruser> ubuntu 17.04
[23:26] <computeruser> a $500 motherboard has better 3 phase power for overclocking but who cares
[23:26] <computeruser> cool windows apps
[23:26]  * wfpkhc hates windows at the moment
[23:26] <wfpkhc> thats why im thinking of migrating
[23:26] <wfpkhc> im on windows 7
[23:26] <wfpkhc> but hate windows 10 privacy
[23:27] <wfpkhc> its not longer MY box - its slowly becoming THEIR box
[23:27] <wfpkhc> which is unacceptable
[23:27] <computeruser> I actually don't like that asus apps crash, I don't like the errors on booting windows that the removable storage I used to install the asus apps a year ago is disconnected
[23:27] <computeruser> it repeats on every boot
[23:27] <computeruser> really shitty apps
[23:28] <blkadder> MB hardware manufacturers are notoriously bad at software
[23:28] <wfpkhc> yes i agree :P
[23:28] <computeruser> they also don't escalate privelidges properly doing install. I have to do all this hand holding to tell windows it is not a virus I downloaded from the internet
[23:28] <blkadder> wfpkhc Have you purchased the MB yet?
[23:28] <wfpkhc> no sir - im just building the parts list - im expecting 3 months lead time
[23:28] <computeruser> AND I have to run as admin.... AND IT STILL FAILS!
[23:29] <blkadder> wfpkhc Do you plan on building a gaming rig? Dual boot or something?
 its not longer MY box - its slowly becoming THEIR box
[23:29] <computeruser> blame mpaa riaa etc..
[23:29] <nacc> computeruser: please try to stay ontopic :)
[23:29] <wfpkhc> gaming rig as the base (high end) but using it as a development platform, i do not believe in dual booting when mobile racks are a billion times better.
[23:29] <computeruser> phones tvs tablets everything
[23:30] <computeruser> nacc heard that
[23:30] <blkadder> wfpkhc That seems a rather odd choice.
[23:30] <blkadder> Do you plan on overclocking the hell out of it?
[23:30] <wfpkhc> computeruser, dont blame mpaa - blame peoples laziness to not learn an operating system that doesnt have your explicit control
[23:31] <wfpkhc> do be honest -  i have never believed in overclocking because it halfs the life of the hardware with very little ROI
[23:31] <blkadder> wfpkhc Well in extreme cases perhaps.
[23:32] <wfpkhc> i was always taught that overclocked ram/cpu halfs the life of the peripheral, and with my "once every blue moon budget" i must make it last as long as possible
[23:32] <blkadder> It is more about temperature.
[23:32] <wfpkhc> k
[23:32] <blkadder> If you run things too hot.
[23:32] <wfpkhc> well that is new to me sir
[23:33] <blkadder> Overclocking generates a lot of heat.
[23:33] <wfpkhc> k
[23:33] <blkadder> And that heat is what tends to kill things.
[23:33] <wfpkhc> k
[23:33] <wfpkhc> i have a bad habit though of not trusting "liquid cooling"
[23:33] <blkadder> I went full liquid cooling with my current main rig. It's all self-contained.
[23:34] <blkadder> Plug and play.
[23:34] <wfpkhc> but have always dreamed of a mineral oil pc :P
[23:34] <nacc> all of this is offtopic :)
[23:34] <nacc> just a gentle reminder, please
[23:34]  * wfpkhc sits quietly
[23:35] <blkadder> nacc Well, he's talking about what to buy to run ubuntu.
[23:35] <blkadder> Personally I am not sure I'd pick a very expensive gaming MB to do so on. :-)
[23:35] <nacc> blkadder: yes, that part is fine, sort of (not really the point of the channel) -- but the disucssion of the merits of liquid cooling is not
[23:35] <blkadder> Unless he was want to OC it.
[23:36] <blkadder> s/want/wanting/
[23:36] <wfpkhc> well if you say it doesnt half the life then its considerable - but i always thought it to be difficult - i mean  having a mobo with 3333 ram would be great for video editing
[23:36] <wfpkhc> (hope that isnt off topic too much)
[23:38] <wfpkhc> thank you guys i must get back to work
[23:39] <wfpkhc> all the best and appreciate the intput
[23:56] <pilatus421> Trying to install PHP 7.0.  When I run the command "a2enmod php7.0"  I get the error "Module php7.0 does not exist".  When I try to reinstall "libapache2-mod-php7.0" i get the error...
[23:56] <pilatus421> dpkg: error processing package libapache2-mod-php7.0 (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  libapache2-mod-php7.0 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


[09:29] <meena> holmanb: shouldn't that just produce distro defaults?
[14:30] <holmanb> meena: if no path_cfgs is provided, the defaults are hard-coded (`/run/cloud-init` for the run_dir attribute)
[14:59] <meena> holmanb: oh… is there a way to ask distro for default Paths?
[15:01] <holmanb> meena: I think that this is a chicken/egg in the case of the Paths call in stages
[15:02] <meena> the egg was there first. but the thing that laid the egg wasn't quite a chicken, but then the thing that hatched from the egg was
[15:03] <holmanb> well yes :)
[15:03] <holmanb> the Init().distro property is populated by reading the system configuration.... which it gets from the Paths obect that is populated without a configuration
[15:04] <holmanb> so maybe it doesn't matter in that case, if /run/cloud-init/ isn't used in getting the config path
[15:06] <holmanb> but I haven't investigated that fully
[15:11] <holmanb> and since the runtime config is stored in the ephemeral directory I'm guessing that this might actually matter
[15:13] <holmanb> maybe it doesn't matter for discovering configured distro, but a re-read after identifying the distro might be required to get the datasource_list that ds-identify writes into /var/run/cloud-init/cloud.cfg, if the config that is read using Paths({}) gets cached anywhere


[05:57] <alex57> I seem to have a problem with Xubuntu 22.04. Fresh (minimal) install, updated apt but nothing else. I have limited themes available and I can't add new ones, not even ones from the /usr/share/themes/ directory. Copied these themes into my ~/.themes directory with chown and chmod with full permissions and still nothing. Not sure what to do, or if
[05:57] <alex57> this is a bug. I used XFCE4 on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed without this issue.
[17:43] <jupp> hello


[04:43] <bouuuuuuwnnd> hello there, i joined because i just installed openmediavault and noticed it uses netplan to configure its network settings, the desired setup i want is have my android phone tether to my raspberry where it is installed via usb and share the connection via a dhcp server on the eth0 on the raspberry. but i have absolutely no clue about this :P
[04:45] <bouuuuuuwnnd> there are 2 yaml files in /etc/netplan, 10-openmediavault-default.yaml and 20-openmediavault-eth0.yaml
[04:46] <bouuuuuuwnnd> but the openmediavault web ui won't let me select the usb0 at all, just doesnt show up even though it shows up in ifconfig


[12:57] <docdrum> Hi!  I'm using a BSD-licensed library in my own project.  Is it allowed to use launchpad to host a fork of the lib and the .deb packages if I'm not the 'owner' of the library?
[13:33] <diwic> docdrum, since the library is BSD licensed the owner has granted you that right, as well as many other rights.
[13:34] <diwic> (with the usual I am not a lawyer disclaimer)
[13:40] <docdrum> diwic: OK, thanks!  I was unsure b/c the launchpad-docs only talks about 'your project'.
[13:42] <docdrum> I'm (quite, ianal2) sure about the licensing terms, just wondering if launchpad allowed this usage
[16:08] <veloutin> is there pricing information for private ppas somewhere?
[16:57] <poolie> veloutin: i _think_ it's included in commercial subscriptions which are a flat price
[16:58] <poolie> suggest you mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:58] <veloutin> yeah, It's what I just read from a few questions
[16:59] <veloutin> thanks, though :)
[16:59] <poolie> you're welcome
[18:29] <tgm4883> What is the process for getting bug comments deleted?
[18:29] <tgm4883> Specifically https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-control-centre/+bug/214074/comments/15
[18:30] <nigelb> ask a question against launchpad
[18:31] <tgm4883> nigelb, will do. Thanks
[18:34] <maxb> tgm4883: I have hidden the spam comment
[18:47] <bdrung> comment 5 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythplugins/+bug/3041 is spam
[22:31] <gustonegro> hi, I'm getting an regject email when I try to upload a source
[22:31] <gustonegro> the email points to here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors
[22:32] <gustonegro> the reason is because:  File <UPLOADED_FILE> already exists in <LOCATION>
[22:32] <gustonegro> however....I deleted that package already.  I don't have any packages in my PPA
[22:33] <gustonegro> are they not really deleted?
[22:58] <maxb> gustonegro: You can never replace a file in a PPA with one with different contents, even after deleting it
[22:59] <gustonegro> maxb: why is that?
[23:02] <lifeless> because its part of a federated database
[23:02] <lifeless> every user of the ppa makes the assumption that per-package files never change contents
[23:03] <gustonegro> hmm...so what can I do?
[23:03] <gustonegro> there are no users of the ppa yet.  I just want to delete the old one and make a new one.
[23:03] <lifeless> the old what?
[23:04] <gustonegro> the old package
[23:06] <gustonegro> here it says I have no published packages: https://launchpad.net/~august-alien/+archive/ppa
[23:06] <lifeless> you need to use a new version number for the upstream
[23:07] <lifeless> e.g. add +test1 to it
[23:07] <gustonegro> add +test1 to the package name?
[23:07] <gustonegro> can I do that with dput ?
[23:18] <gustonegro> could someone explain what this all means or point me to some docs on the matter?
[23:19] <lifeless> debian/control defines your version
[23:19] <lifeless> every upload must be unique.
[23:19] <lifeless> -> you must change it every time
[23:19] <lifeless> the upstream part defines the tarball that is looked for
[23:19] <lifeless> to change that you change the upstream part and the tarball name.
[23:20] <gustonegro> what is an upstream?  I've read all the docs and see it all the time, but never is it defined.
[23:21] <gustonegro> sorry for the naive question.....maybe there is a better forum for that.
[23:22] <gustonegro> so if I make a mistake in a upload, I always have to go back and rebuild the package....even if it was just a packaging mistaeke?
[23:23] <lifeless> yes
[23:23] <lifeless> after you dput you can never reuse the version number
[23:23] <gustonegro> wow
[23:24] <gustonegro> so , I have to set a version number by changing the package name?
[23:25] <lifeless> what you normally do is leave the tarball unchanged
[23:25] <lifeless> and change the packaging only resulting in a new *diff* reusing the same tarball
[23:25] <lifeless> but because you are trying to upload a changed tarball, thats why the problem is happening
[23:25] <lifeless> so in this special case (because you are learning)
[23:26] <lifeless> you need to change the tarball version [and package version] to be able to upload
[23:26] <gustonegro> for that I just rename the tarball and change the "Source" section of the control file?
[23:28] <maxb> Why would you change the package name? You want to change the package version
[23:29] <gustonegro> maxb: where is the package version set? I don't see it any where except in how I named the .orig.tar.gz tarball?
[23:30] <lifeless> maxb: he doesn't have the old tarball anymore... contents conflict
[23:34] <maxb> Sure... but that's still only cause to change the version, not the name
[23:34] <lifeless> right
[23:34] <lifeless> but the 'name' of a tarball includes the version
[23:34] <maxb> gustonegro: the version is set from the top entry in debian/changelog
[23:34] <lifeless> maxb: you're binding the terms differently
[23:35] <maxb> So, yes, the file may need to be renamed, but nothing in debian/control needs to change
[23:35] <lifeless> right
[23:35] <lifeless> gustonegro: ^ whats your current tarball name
[23:35] <lifeless> gustonegro: and whats the first line in your debian/changelog


[03:49] <X-Hunter> Hi
[05:19] <JoeR2> I have no sound through HDMI in xubuntu 11.04 any advice?
[12:18] <Aicasn> ubuntu is based on debian right?  deb 6 was out in feb of this year, so how long might it be until we see a (x)ubuntu based on squeeze?
[12:24] <TheSheep> !release | Aicasn
[12:25] <Aicasn> hmm.. i guess i'm asking not when the next release will come but if the next release will be built from deb 6?
[12:27] <Pici> Aicasn: Ubuntu is synched from debian unstable for each non-lts release.
[12:27] <Daew> Hello everyone. I need help:
[12:27] <Daew> I installed Xubuntu a few weeks and it worked perfectly until one day (and always from then on) workspaces stopped working (I can only see 1 workspace, despite the settings) + I don't see windows in panel (in application menu and workspace switcher) + the top of the windows is missing (the part with title, minimize, close...).    If I start a second session, there are no problems there, but now whenever I turn on computer, I  have to run 2 s
[12:29] <TheSheep> Daew: there was someone with exactly the same problem yesterday, you could check the forums, maybe he described the solution
[12:30] <Daew> Ok
[12:37] <Daew> I found it, thank you.
[13:19] <Kolten> hello
[13:19] <Kolten> есть кто из россии?
[13:42] <liam> Hello
[13:43] <liam> anyone on?
[13:43] <TheSheep> !hi | liam
[13:50] <liam> I just installed Xubuntu on a virtual machine to play with
[13:50] <liam> had a question about getting the python V2.7 to work
[13:50] <liam>  anyone know how?
[13:51] <Aicasn> you would get better help if you would tell us exactly what the problem is.  where are you stuck?  error messages?  pastebin if output is long
[13:52] <Aicasn> or not  :/
[14:48] <technikfreak> hello i have a failed kernel or soemthing related because each time i started to watch a video anway which player the xorg crashed and logged me out
[14:50] <TheSheep> technikfreak: what's in your ~/.xsessionerrors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log after such a crash?
[14:52] <technikfreak> moment i will create a crash and come than back
[14:55] <technikfreak0815> http://paste.ubuntu.com/670133/
[14:55] <technikfreak0815> here is my paste
[14:56] <technikfreak0815> from the log
[14:57] <technikfreak0815> hope there is the related problem really easy to find out
[15:00] <technikfreak0815> isn't it helpfull?
[15:04] <TheSheep> technikfreak0815: can't see anything wrong
[15:05] <TheSheep> technikfreak0815: are you sure it's from the crash?
[15:05] <TheSheep> technikfreak0815: or the next one after you rebooted?
[15:05] <technikfreak0815> it will be not rebooted
[15:05] <technikfreak0815> just logged me oput
[15:05] <technikfreak0815> and than i have to login
[15:06] <technikfreak0815> but the display will crash
[15:06] <TheSheep> is there /var/log/Xorg.1.log?
[15:06] <technikfreak0815> is it possible to overwritw the current graphics settings?
[15:06] <TheSheep> or ~/.xsessionerrors?
[15:07] <technikfreak0815> no
[15:07] <TheSheep> Xorg.0.log.old?
[15:08] <technikfreak0815> mhon var /log?
[15:08] <technikfreak0815> no
[15:08] <TheSheep> you should have .xsessionerrors in your home directory
[15:08] <TheSheep> as a hidden file
[15:12] <technikfreak0815> moment
[15:13] <technikfreak0815> found
[15:13] <technikfreak0815> http://paste.ubuntu.com/670144/
[15:13] <technikfreak0815> here it is
[15:15] <TheSheep> nope, no errors related to the crash
[15:15] <TheSheep> although there is something else wrong with your install
[15:16] <TheSheep> "Home directory /home/martin not ours."
[15:16] <TheSheep> you are not the owner of your home directory
[15:16] <TheSheep> what does 'ls -ald /home/martin' say?
[15:17] <technikfreak0815> drwxr-xr-x 69 1016 1016 4096 2011-07-16 12:49 /home/martin
[15:17] <technikfreak0815> why should i not?
[15:17] <TheSheep> you should be the owner
[15:17] <TheSheep> but instead it's owned by an uknknown user with PID 1016
[15:17] <technikfreak0815> aha so than i am hacked?
[15:18] <TheSheep> you can fix that by running 'sudo chown martin.martin /home/martin'
[15:18] <TheSheep> no, I think you just installed over some other installation
[15:18] <TheSheep> and the home directory was there already, right?
[15:21] <technikfreak0815> yeah i ahve upgraded it
[17:19] <SaaMmY> Setting PCRE_CFLAGS and LIBS variables how to do
[17:19] <SaaMmY> guys
[17:20] <SaaMmY> http://paste.ubuntu.com/670241/
[17:26] <SaaMmY> maybe I have already fixed
[20:07]  * jarnos finds chromium-browser much more responsive than firefox in Natty. Also youtube works more fluently.