[09:36] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: then you need some form of bootable system to resize the partitions
[09:36] <jpic> can't i allocate more space for the squashfs? either on the fly either by booting ro single?
[09:37] <GobiTheGoblin> hi there, how I can kill gdm? I run /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and i just keeps coming back?
[09:37] <prince_jammys> GobiTheGoblin: are you using sudo?
[09:37] <GobiTheGoblin> i <- it
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: not sure, ive not played with those
[09:37] <GobiTheGoblin> prince_jammys: yep
[09:37] <prince_jammys> that's annoying.
[09:38] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, try init 3
[09:38] <GobiTheGoblin> hatake_kakashi: will try, ty
[09:38] <jpic> ActionParsnip1: thanks for answering, i need to find a safe guide because that's the only os i have (dead hdd)
[09:38] <jpic> (and no cdrom reader)
[09:38] <PLN> Hello every one
[09:38] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, can't guarantee it'll work but its worth the shot
[09:38] <manuscle> Hey everyone
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: just make sure your data is archived and you can play away
[09:39] <PLN> I am new user on liunx os
[09:39] <jpic> ActionParsnip1: data is safe, but the OS itself is not
[09:39] <GobiTheGoblin> hatake_kakashi: it is :D
[09:39] <jpic> all i have is that usb key which i didn't set up with enough space for installs
[09:39] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, it worked? ok
[09:39] <PLN> how i can oracle database on ubuntu
[09:40] <manuscle> have a problem with mounting folder
[09:40] <K7522> manuscle you'll need to be a bit more descriptive. ;)
[09:41] <manuscle> lol, i am currently writing my problem, but english is not my native language! ;-)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: then you could borrow a friends PC to duplicate the USB device so you have a backup of that too :)
[09:41] <hughworm> Morning all. I could use help with getting video driver for a new installation.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> PLN: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[09:42] <PLN> any oracle developer here
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> PLN: oracle have an ubuntu repo
[09:42] <K7522> hughworm, did you check System > Preferences > Hardware Drivers first?
[09:42] <prince_jammys> !oracle | PLN
[09:42] <zamba> i'm using debootstrap to install a system.. is it possible to get that to use an apt cacher?
[09:43] <manuscle> so, i'va written in my fstab this line :  /var/www    /mnt/sdc/www none bind, /mnt/sdc/www is on a partition with 200Go fre space, but when i mount this, /mnt/sdc/www is limited to only 6Go!
[09:43] <kales> ciao
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: if you are simply mapping one folder to another you dont need fstab
[09:43] <GobiTheGoblin> hatake_kakashi: Havent tried yet, need to solve one more thing before I can try
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, ahh ok
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: sudo ln -s /mnt/sdc/www /var/www
[09:44] <hughworm> K7522 I guess you mean System > Admin > Hardware Drivers? List is empty. I have a S3  VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[09:44] <manuscle> ActionParsnip1: But with symbolic link, i can't acces by FTP
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: ah, weird
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: system should just see it as a folder
[09:45] <K7522> manuscle, that is odd
[09:45] <hatake_kakashi> manuscle, try mounting it using bind option
[09:45] <manuscle> i did :  /var/www    /mnt/sdc/www none bind
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> hatake_kakashi: see above ;)
[09:46] <tnoy> reverse it, /mnt/sdc/www /var/www
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> ActionParsnip1, yeah kinda double-checked it again lol
[09:46] <RaaG> Want Virtual box on ubuntu
[09:46] <RaaG> ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> RaaG: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[09:47] <RaaG> Sun ?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> RaaG: yes
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> !virtualbox | RaaG
[09:47] <RaaG> ok brother
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> (waits for thanks....)
[09:48] <K7522> ActionParsnip1, thank you <3
[09:48] <manuscle> tnoy: lol, that's so symply!
[09:48] <manuscle> tnoy: thanks it's work!
[09:48] <K7522> hughworm, I'm tryin to figure that one out.
[09:49] <tnoy> haha
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> K7522: some dont. its really frustrating
[09:49] <tnoy> glad I could help :)
[09:49] <K7522> ActionParsnip1,  I'm thanking you for him :)
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> K7522: cool, thanks
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> K7522: despite price, manners always seem to be forgotten
[09:50] <hughworm> K7522: I think I need a driver called prosavage_smbus but I don't know where or how to get it. Googling didn't help much!
[09:50] <manuscle> tnoy: sometime i can help too but it's so rare ...
[09:51] <tnoy> manuscle, we help where we can
[09:51] <K7522> hughworm, you're going to need to edit your xorg.conf to your video card.
[09:51] <miranda82> is there anyway i can sort my processes by bandwith usage?
[09:52] <manuscle> tnoy: I agree ^-^
[09:53] <jpic> hi, where does apt download packages please?
[09:53] <hughworm> K7522: ok...?
[09:53] <miranda82> jpds, /var/cache/apt/
[09:53] <miranda82> jpic, sorry,. that was for you
[09:54] <jpic> thanks miranda82!
[09:54] <prince_jammys> /var/cache/apt/archives, probably. ''man apt'', FILES section.
[09:54] <Ytxx> I have created a new user on my ubuntu server ... but I am unable to login to it
[09:54] <prince_jammys> s/apt/apt-get/
[09:54] <Ytxx> I typed three times the password and I get this
[09:54] <Ytxx> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: log back in as your first user and run: sudo passwd <new users name here>
[09:54] <hughworm> K7522: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is in front of me
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: if you dont set a password, the account is there but disabled
[09:55] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: I have changed it ... and I tryed to login still doesnt work
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: same error?
[09:56] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: sudo adduser testuser
[09:56] <Ytxx> and typed the password twice
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> ok cool
[09:56] <Ytxx> and I get that error
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: are you trying to connect via ssh as the new user?
[09:57] <Ytxx> yes
[09:57] <prince_jammys> hah
[09:57] <prince_jammys> ESP required here.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: ok read /var/log/syslog
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: do you use key pairs for ssh security or just passwords?
[09:58] <allan8904> how can i clear my fontcache?
[09:59] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: I use key pair for my root user
[09:59] <kales> ciao
[09:59] <steveny> hello all~
[09:59] <Ytxx> where do I locate the /var/log/syslog
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: o the ssh server
[09:59] <Ytxx> yes
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: /var/log/syslog is the absolute location of the file
[10:00] <kales> ma come funziona.......
[10:00] <kales> c6?
[10:00] <prince_jammys> !it | kales
[10:01] <orc> tv
[10:01] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: less /var/log/syslog
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: its a log file, not a command
[10:01] <Ytxx> what do you mean less ?
[10:02] <allan8904> less is so you can view whats in the file
[10:02] <pythagoras> hey wsup all
[10:02] <konza> Hi, I am unable to telnet using port 80.......... pls help
[10:02] <Ytxx> do i run it on the server ?
[10:02] <achilles> hello, I added a new SATA disk 1TB to my ubuntu, I'm trying to create a format using parted and fdisk, I create the start cyl 1 but what is the last cyl to occupy 1TB ?
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, +ITB ?
[10:03] <man_whore> .
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> or better yet, hit enter
[10:03] <tnoy> konza, how are you trying to telnet using port 80?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: yes to read the log
[10:04] <konza> telnet www.google.com 80
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> achilles: fdisk default is the whole disk so you can just press enter for the end
[10:04] <konza> tnoy, telnet www.google.com 80
[10:04] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1:Sep 15 03:45:26 Cby kernel: [908379.776121] iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT$
[10:05] <tnoy> konza, That is working for me, so your syntax is correct. What is the error you're getting?
[10:05] <Ytxx> does it mean anything to yo ..  I suspect is the iptable.
[10:05] <konza> tnoy, <TITLE>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</TITLE>
[10:05] <achilles> ActionParsnip1, hatake_kakashi http://pastebin.org/18025
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: thats your firewall dropping conenction
[10:06] <mar> any ideas: http://ikelk.lt/pastes/ew5-_W!nuk
[10:06] <tnoy> konza, If you get something like that, the telnet command is working, you need to pass a valid command to the server once you connect
[10:06] <konza> tnoy, Its connection but I am not getting the http headers
[10:06] <prince_jammys> GET / HTTP/1.1 <enter><enter>
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, you've made it incorrectly, its supposed to be /dev/sda not /dev/sda3
[10:06] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: is it related to the iptable ?
[10:07] <konza> tnoy, telnet is working, but ^
[10:07] <ficoos> Hi, I get this error on evert dpkg operation "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/<pkgNameHere> (--unpack)"
[10:07] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, why ? the new disk is sda3
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: doubt it, sounds like you are hitting the server, just getting denied access
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, are there any other scsi/sata/usb storage devices plugged in on the same computer?
[10:07] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, I'm afraid to format the currently installed one
[10:08] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, yes there is
[10:08] <konza> tnoy, i can get the headers if i use localhost....
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, the reason is this:　Disk /dev/sda3: 5033 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[10:08] <Maleko> hey guys..how do we remove all non hidden files?
[10:08] <konza> tnoy, I am using a proxy server, will that affect it?
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> note the size of it
[10:08] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, http://pastebin.org/18026
[10:09] <tnoy> The proxy server might have something to do with it if it expects different commands
[10:09] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, oh maybe its the swap!
[10:09] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: http://gist.github.com/187195
[10:09] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, yes it's the swap sorry!
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, would've been better if you did fdisk -l instead
[10:10] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, http://pastebin.org/18028
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: you can use the cursor to read up and down with less
[10:10] <ficoos> and I get "unable to open files list file for package `libtext-wrapi18n-perl': Input/output error"
[10:11] <bchan> .
[10:11] <ficoos> can't find anything on google
[10:11] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: well I just need to fix this ... do you think its possible to diagnose the iptable ?
[10:11] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, that's the wrong disk, note the size of the disk, 160GB not 1TB and so you've created a virtual partition or whatever it is inside /dev/sda3 which is swap
[10:12] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, how can I know what dev name the new disk took ?
[10:12] <konza> anyone knows what is osql?
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, like I said before `fdisk -l'
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: if you ssh over as your user that works. Try: ssh testuser@localhost
[10:12] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, yes I got it /dev/sdb
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: see if that is good
[10:12] <achilles> thank you!
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, nw
[10:12] <ScreaminIke> does anyone here know of a supported AM radio tuner?
[10:13] <ScreaminIke> (pci or usb)
[10:13] <allan8904> is there a portage-type package manager that can be used on ubuntu?
[10:13] <ScreaminIke> apt-get
[10:14] <tnoy> ScreaminIke, I dont know if its supported or not, but Hauppauge devices have been rather linux-friendly in the past
[10:14] <ScreaminIke> apt-get can build from source, too, if you like
[10:14] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1:
[10:15] <Ytxx> its asking http://gist.github.com/187195 should I say yes ?
[10:15] <ScreaminIke> apt-get is the package manager. it's like portage, but, by default, it grabs debian binaries
[10:15] <slobad23> is there a free linux equivelant to macromedia captivate?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: yes
[10:16] <allan8904> yeah but the dependiecies are all downloaded as binary, i'm talking about full source compilation
[10:16] <jrib> allan8904: /why/?
[10:16] <vigo> ScreaminIke: AM radio support? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012&highlight=radio
[10:16] <ScreaminIke> allan8904, you can put in params to build from source
[10:17] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: after the third attmt i get this
[10:17] <Ytxx> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
[10:17] <allan8904> jrib: just so its optimised. I know 5% doesnt sound like much, however when you're running it on a 1.73ghz lapy with an intel915gma card it makes a small difference
[10:17] <vigo> ScreaminIke: There is a point there about checking and or unchecking Analog/Digital.
[10:17] <pythagoras> is ubuntu the best??
[10:18] <vigo> !best
[10:18] <pythagoras> is it?
[10:18] <jrib> allan8904: just your machine...  Anyway there's apt-build but imo it's a complete waste of time
[10:18] <vigo> I like it.
[10:18] <prince_jammys> it's the best distro of the ones that's named after south african words.
[10:18] <kitallis> okay
[10:18] <pythagoras> what bout ubuntu ultimate is that ok?
[10:18] <allan8904> pythagoras: nah gentoos the best distro
[10:18] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: should I add "AllowUsers testuser" to ssh_config ?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: then the account is most likely bad, I'd check group membership
[10:18] <pythagoras> gentoos?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: makes sense
[10:19] <allan8904> *gentoo
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> !ultimate | pythagoras
[10:19] <jrib> pythagoras: try both and use what is best for you
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: there is no best
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: best is an opinion so is not concrete
[10:19] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: what do you make sense ?
[10:19] <tnoy> gentoo is great until and emerge world f's up your system
[10:19] <vigo> Thank you ActionParsnip1.
[10:19] <kitallis> I've got these three separate blocks of unallocated space, can't i somehow merge them in to 'free' space?
[10:19] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[10:20] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1:True but gentoo is bleeding edge, optimised too the teeth however it just takes alot of hand configuring and time to install things...something i dont have time for at the moment
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: to add the new user to the allowed users in sshd_config or whatever you said
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: doesnt make it better
[10:20] <pythagoras> so what are u using allan?
[10:20] <ubuntu> any one know of a good ip blocker?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: i personally think puppy is the best, but thats my opinion
[10:20] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: what makes puppy better then ubuntu?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: there is no universal best anything
[10:21] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: i only installed puppy on a powerpc machine because i really had no other option
[10:21] <pythagoras> hmm everyone wreckon ubantu the distro around..
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: its light and suits my personal needs perfectly, it also runs on ,y ancient systems
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> s/y/my
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: so to me it is the best, millions would agree, millions would disagree
[10:21] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: what GUI do you use?
[10:21] <zebaztian> what app can i use to check hash sums of an ubuntu iso?
[10:21] <kitallis> can anyone help me with that ^^
[10:21] <pythagoras> word on the street has it ubantu the go...
[10:21] <erUSUL> !md5sum | zebaztian
[10:22] <kitallis> I've got these three separate blocks of unallocated space, can't i somehow merge them in to 'free' space?
[10:22] <kitallis> ^^
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: openbox
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: my more powerful systems run lxde
[10:22] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: can i ask why?
[10:22] <kaddy> hi
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: lightness
[10:22] <zebaztian> can i download with apt whilst ¡'m downloaading something through wget -c?
[10:22] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: whats wrong with something like KDE
[10:22] <erUSUL> kitallis: partitions ? use gparted...
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: sure you can
[10:22] <pythagoras> anyone here run windows
[10:22] <erUSUL> zebaztian: yes
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: fat slow, and kde is really flaky
[10:23] <vigo> kitallis: Back it up and run a disk utility, gparted is good.
[10:23] <slobad23> is camstudio the best piece of software for desktop videos?
[10:23] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, are you on gui?
[10:23] <erUSUL> pythagoras: in ##windows
[10:23] <kaddy> kde is flaky?
[10:23] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: see i think KDE is nice, shiney and full of features
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: indeed
[10:23] <kaddy> pffft
[10:23] <prince_jammys> optimize + kde == funny combination.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: i dont like shiny. i want the job done
[10:23] <pythagoras> i like the sphere in ubantu
[10:23] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1,  which DE?
[10:23] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: whats teh point of doing it on an eyesore though?
[10:23] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: I have managed to login .
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> kaddy: is in my experience
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: its not, looks fine here
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: lxde
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: wtg :D
[10:24] <pythagoras> the sphere desktop is cool
[10:24] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1,  is that ubuntu?
[10:24] <kitallis> erUSUL, can't those are 3 seperate blocks, if i make a primary partition outta any one of them, then the other too would be left unallocated cause of the <4 limit
[10:24] <Ytxx> But there's something different from the root user . .
[10:24] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: The thing is that the second you run any kde app all teh libs are loaded in teh background
[10:24] <kaddy> Ubuntu is good, but its for Noobs
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: no, lxde is a de. you can run it on ubuntu if you wish: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/images/4/4c/LXDE_desktop_full.png
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> !lxde | zebaztian
[10:24] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: so you may as well use the GUI too
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> !info lxde
[10:24] <kaddy> lxde is da bomb!
[10:24] <ScreaminIke> kaddy, try to stay on topic
[10:24] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, can i run lxde on hardy?
[10:24] <erUSUL> kitallis: can you move/copy some paritions to make room ?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: sure can
[10:25] <zaggynl> LXDE is quite nice
[10:25] <kaddy> i am staying on topic
[10:25] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, is it getable from the repos?
[10:25] <zaggynl> full desktop in ~60MB
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: sudo apt-get install lxde
[10:25] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: is there a way of listing the users ?
[10:25] <zaggynl> as opposed to the default 200+MB gnome ubuntu desktop
[10:25] <kaddy> Don't you ubuntu guys get sick of the same old dead inovation Gnome desktop though? seriously?
[10:25] <kitallis> erUSUL, i did, i had 2 before, now I have 3 :/
[10:25] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: But you dont get like 95% of the features
[10:25] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1,  is it lighter than xfce?
[10:25] <kaddy> and gnome 3/shell is utter crap
[10:25] <jrib> !ot | kaddy
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: type: users    at command line
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: what features?
[10:26] <kaddy> only noob niggas use ubuntu or gnome
[10:26] <kitallis> lol
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: i can install any app from any DE and use it in a light environment
[10:26] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: can you have desktop compozing on it?
[10:26] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, can i compiz eyecandy on lxde?
[10:26] <zebaztian> haha
[10:26] <ScreaminIke> ActionParsnip1, can ubotu fix kaddy?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: sure, you can use lxde + compiz if you really want
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: like I said. i dont like ll that stuff
[10:27] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: the new user 'tesuser' doesnt apear on the list only root and admin
[10:27] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: what specs are your comp?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: which one?
[10:27] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: the "good one"
[10:27] <kaddy> what would you know parsnip! afterall... your just a White Fake carrot!
[10:28] <allan8904> oooohhhh burn lols
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: fileserver = gentoo + 64mb edo ram + p100 mmx
[10:28] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, is lxde lighter than xfce and as manipulable as kde?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: router = bsd + 500Mhz P3 + 256Mb SDRAM
[10:28] <kitallis> erUSUL, the problem is that the unallocated space is on different sectors of the disk, so there isn't just one block i can partition into
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: desktop = AM2 Semp 3000 1.6Ghz + 2Gb DDR2 + 250Gb SATA2
[10:29] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: ah no wonder you use that then
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: i like it. i can run full kde + compz rubbish on my desktop. i choose not to
[10:29] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: do you know why the new user is not listed ?
[10:29] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: yeah but it would be slow on it
[10:29] <erUSUL> kitallis: so you are stuck. you ca not make new paritions nor move existing ones ?
[10:29] <ScreaminIke> i'm currently using 400MHz and 128MB ram. lololol
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: lxde has similar min requirements but actually uses less than xfce in reality
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: it performs well
[10:30] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: on my lappy is slightly sluggish, however on my desktop its sweet as
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: i can play penumbra and urban terror very well
[10:30] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, will my ATI radeon graphics 3200 work well with it?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: as wel as doom3 via wine
[10:30] <Kroline> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:30] <Kroline> hellooooo
[10:30] <pythagoras> later all
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: sure will :)
[10:30] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: why not just use windows for gaming...
[10:30] <ScreaminIke> kitallis, you have to unmount a partition to edit it
[10:30] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: i'm all for linux however i'd like the best tool for teh job
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: you seem to be mixing "features" with "eye candy"
[10:31] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, what's lxde based on?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: windows costs and linux is free, linux plays the games I like toplay so why should i waste my money
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: gtk
[10:31] <kitallis> ScreaminIke, obviously :/
[10:31] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: i got windows for "free" from uni, we all were supplied with a copy and serial for windows xP, vista business and windows 7
[10:32] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, i had a horrible time with the ati driver, then i installed the newest one specific to this chipset and it has slowed down my laptop
[10:32] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: so price wasnt a factor for me
[10:32] <kitallis> erUSUL, well I can make only ONE partition from any one of those unallocated space
[10:32] <ScreaminIke> i have a wintendows install on my 'good' box. it's a hassle to take down my ssh/apache/gnump3d and have to reboot every time i want services i've come to depend upon
[10:32] <kitallis> but i want to merge them and create a single one
[10:32] <kitallis> guess i cant
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: well i'm a bit older than uni, so i dont get given much. I do get free PC systems that folks dont want though
[10:32] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, so no matter what libraries, gnome and kde apps should run faster considering its low resource consumption?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: yes as the DE itself uses less to run
[10:33] <MrSchmo> anyone have this program qt4 setting in menu: system>Preference  and what does it do?
[10:33] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: probs why you dont like the eyecandy :p
[10:33] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: anyway nice discussing it with you
[10:33] <erUSUL> kitallis: if you can not copy/move other partitions so the space is continous in the disk you can not.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: no, even if a had a blade system with 200 CPUs and 2Tb RAM, I'd still use LXDE
[10:34] <erUSUL> MrSchmo: change the appearance settings of qt4 apps
[10:35] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, is it buggy?
[10:35] <zebaztian> does it have releasesees parallel to ubuntu?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: not at all
[10:35] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: users dosnt list 'testuser' is this the expected behaviour ?
[10:35] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, is it as versatile? as in can i set things the way i want them like on kde ?
[10:36] <zebaztian> i remember that was one feature i never liked about xfce much
[10:36] <zebaztian> i felt i couldnt bend it and shape it my way
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: not so much, the gui is quite constrained but you can set window decorators and background images and icons nice
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: not sure man
[10:38] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, what's its navigator?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: navigator?
[10:38] <zebaztian> the...nto window manager
[10:38] <zebaztian> hmmm
[10:38] <zebaztian> like dolphin or nautilus
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: oh, file manager
[10:38] <alus> nginx released a security fix yesterday, at version 0.6.39. ubuntu base 9.04 still lists 0.6.35 in apt
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: you can run either of those in LXDE
[10:38] <alus> when will ubuntu get the security update?
[10:39] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip,  what's the default though?
[10:39] <zebaztian> it looks very Windows-like on those screenshots
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: Thunar is default I think
[10:40] <MenZa> alus: You may be better off asking in #ubuntu-motu
[10:40] <MenZa> alus: Alternatively, create a ticket in !Launchpad
[10:40] <alus> what is "motu"?
[10:40] <rvb> hello, i bought a new PC and installed Kubuntu Jaunty 9.04 i can hear sound but my mic isnt working
[10:40] <rvb> who can i make my mic work>
[10:40] <rvb> ?
[10:41] <prince_jammys> !motu |alus
[10:41] <MenZa> !sound | rvb
[10:41] <MenZa> rvb: Check those links out for your mic problems.
[10:41] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, can i run ubuntu with lxde alone? as in no gnome, no kde
[10:41] <MenZa> zebaztian: Sure.
[10:41] <rvb> thanks.. i'll do that and post back
[10:42] <zebaztian> MenZa, with all the same repos and apps though?
[10:42] <MenZa> zebaztian: Certainly. The repositories are independent of whatever DE/WM you use.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: sure if you want but you will not be able to use the apps that use those libs
[10:42] <MenZa> zebaztian: So are the apps. Some will require gtk libraries to load, but they'll run.
[10:43] <lylith> i need alot of help from anyone who knows, my problem is this, i have a pc that had vista pre-installed from the store, i hated vista, so i installed ubuntu 9.4 to the machine, and completely removed the vista partition.. well, that was a while ago, but now i got a new machine for ubuntu wich im on now, and i want xp on my old vista machine, well, when i try to use my xp disk it loads all the setup files and when it gets to the part "st
[10:43] <lylith> arting windows" (on the very first blue screen where it loads drivers for setup) it goes to a blue screen and says a problem has been detected and my computer needs to be shut down.. aka its the blue screen of doom, i cant even get to setup... ok so, i completely removed my ubuntu partition using the live cd, then went back out and tried again, got the bsod again... i really need xp on the machine, and google didnt help at all, anyone h
[10:43] <lylith> ere know anything that could help?
[10:43] <FloodBot2> lylith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <MenZa> lylith: Sounds like a problem with the XP cd, not Ubuntu.
[10:43] <jrib> lylith: ##windows for help with that
[10:43] <MenZa> lylith: Alternatively your hardware setup. Try ##windows instead.
[10:43] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, how do you mean i won't be able to use apps that use those libs? explain please
[10:44] <lylith> i thought so... but it cant be, the xp cd is the same i've always used x.x
[10:44] <zebaztian> ha i just saw this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[10:44] <MenZa> zebaztian: Most applications use either Qt (KDE libraries) or GTK+ (GNOME libraries). If you simply launch your desktop with lxde, those libraries will still be available for the applications to use. If you remove the libraries, however, you may run into some issues.
[10:45] <brijith1> is there any one to Help me in translating labels in galde  ......?????
[10:45] <zebaztian> so it would be better to have both kde and gnome as a log option? won't that slow down the system in the long run though?
[10:45] <zebaztian> MenZa, ActionParsnip
[10:45] <qianjigui> can you see more about it detail?
[10:46] <qianjigui> brijith1:can you see more about it detail?
[10:46] <MenZa> zebaztian: I suggest just leaving GNOME on it. If you need Qt libs for anything, they'll download.
[10:46] <brijith1> is there any one to help me in translating labels in glade
[10:46] <konza> anyone knows anything about mysql injection? pls reply
[10:46] <zebaztian> MenZa, so I can run any kde app, both on the gui and the shell, from lxde?
[10:47] <bazhang> konza, cracking?
[10:47] <prince_jammys> konza: /j #mysql
[10:47] <brijith1> qianjigui: I have a python application which uses glade interface
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: if an app needs libs then it will need it installing so you may have to have them installed so you may need to have gnome installed
[10:47] <konza> bazhang, nope........ i wanna learn hacking.. and not cracking..
[10:48] <prince_jammys> wrong channel for either.
[10:48] <bazhang> konza, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[10:48] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, what about kde?
[10:48] <brijith1> qianjigui: what I want to do is to translate all the messages in the window
[10:48] <konza> bazhang, is there any other channel for that?
[10:48] <qianjigui> to which language?
[10:49] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, MenZa regardless though it will still perform better/faster than gnome or kde right?
[10:49] <bazhang> konza, no idea  /msg alis list *term_you_want*
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: if you want to run kde apps ten they will need some kde libs, so they will need to be installed. apt-get will manage this
[10:50] <arquebus> konza- you may find people who will discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <qianjigui> the better irc tool for ubuntu is?
[10:51] <allan8904> pidgin lol
[10:51] <ScreaminIke> irssi
[10:51] <prince_jammys> !irc
[10:51] <prince_jammys> err, no.
[10:51] <konza> bazhang, can u pls explain that command what u told?
[10:51] <qianjigui> thx
[10:51] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, so what you're saying is that if i say want to use konqueror, sudo apt-get konqueror in a lxde only paradigm wiill take care of installing the qt libs on its own?
[10:51] <bazhang> konza, let's discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:51] <brijith1> Help mmeeee
[10:52] <prince_jammys> zebaztian: yes, apt will take care of installing/informing you of required dependencies.
[10:53] <zebaztian> great, so pretty much install gnome and then lxde
[10:53] <zebaztian> great
[10:53] <brijith1> using Gettext  translation of labels in glade is not working please help me.
[10:53] <prince_jammys> the package 'ubuntu-desktop' contains nothing other than a list of dependencies, which is why installing causes all the apps/dependencies to be installed.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: konqueror will install qt libs as it needs
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: there is nothing stopping you running konqueror in lxde
[10:54] <zebaztian> so, leave gnome alone install lxde and get the kde apps you need pretty much?
[10:54] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: lol looks like i gave you a bit of work explaining desktop managers and stuff
[10:55] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, i cant believe you lied to me
[10:55] <zebaztian> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCMan_File_Manager
[10:56] <Dougal> my computer is accepting ssh connections over the local (home) network, but not ftp
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: ?
[10:56] <Dougal> I'm pretty new to setting up SSH or FTP, And i thought i'd installed enough stuff to be a backend for both of them, but apparantly not
[10:57] <Dougal> what do I need on the desktop upstairs before it'll operate as an ftp server?
[10:57] <indus> hi
[10:58] <hateball> Dougal: Is there any reason why you need FTP? sftp is a whole lot more secure and easy to use (imo)
[10:59] <Dougal> hateball: sftp would be fine too
[10:59] <hateball> !info ssh | Dougal
[10:59] <hateball> Dougal: that should be all you need to get going
[11:00] <Dougal> hateball: so if i can ssh into my computer, i should be able to sftp in as well? even if i can't ftp in?
[11:00] <hateball> Dougal: Yes
[11:00] <Dougal> hah, it worked.
[11:00] <Dougal> I feel kind of silly now...
[11:00] <hateball> Dougal: sftp and ftp/s are not the same :)
[11:01] <Myrtti> konza: this is, btw, the support channel
[11:01] <Myrtti> konza: not #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <Myrtti> konza: you can either try from the command line, in a terminal, with passwd
[11:02] <Myrtti> konza: or in system - administration - users and groups
[11:02] <Dougal> yes, i think i knew that. I just thought of sftp as the more advanced option and assumed it'd be *harder* to get working as a result. Anyways, thanks!
[11:02] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, have you used ede?
[11:02] <zebaztian> *EDE
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: not used it
[11:03] <konza> Myrtti,  i want to change the password which i gave during nickname registration
[11:03] <Myrtti> konza: where, in freenode or in Ubuntu?
[11:04] <Myrtti> konza: /msg nickserv help
[11:04] <gharz> guys, i'm using mac mini powerpc... and using radeon 9200... in the Display dialog... i can't find 1440x900 resolution... how do i add this?
[11:06] <gharz>  guys, how do i add 1440x900 resolution for my monitor? i'm using radeon 9200 rev 01... the maximum resolution is only 1024 x 768
[11:06] <indus> gharz: can u type glxinfo | grep render in a terminal and paste output
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> gharz: run: sudo lshw -C display
[11:06] <indus> or that
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> gharz: you can now use the product line to websearch for a driver
[11:07] <error404notfound> i am trying to upgrade intrepid to jaunty and i get: http://pastebin.com/m706008aa i also tried remove the sndfile package, no use
[11:09] <gharz> indus: direct rendering: Yes OpenGl renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[11:09] <indus> error404notfound: can u do a sudo apt-get update first
[11:09] <indus> gharz: hmm
[11:09] <error404notfound> indus, fixed it :P, i did a dpkg -r sndfile-packagename and its fixed
[11:10] <indus> k
[11:10] <m1r> gharz: i am searching for same but ati hd 4350
[11:10] <gharz> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271395/  this is the result
[11:10] <indus> gharz: do u have an ati tool to configure display?
[11:10] <indus> !ati
[11:11] <gharz> indus: ati tool? i am not sure... this is a fresh install of the ubuntu
[11:11] <konza> can not join a channel.......... requires keyword... why is it telling like that
[11:11] <indus> gharz: in system>administration do u see anything ATI?
[11:12] <gharz> indus: no... i don't see any ATI
[11:13] <m1r> gharz: check under Programs > others > ati catalyst ?
[11:14] <Dougal> um... back again. Sftp is working great for me for single files, but i can't seem to transfer a directory of them.
[11:14] <Dougal> I tried " put DirectoryName "
[11:14] <gharz> m1r: i don't see any ati catalyst
[11:14] <Dougal> and i got a response "skipping non-regular file "DirectoryName"
[11:15] <indus> gharz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[11:15] <jesus1> When editing startup applications in the GUI, which file changes? Or even, which are the files determining, for any wm/de what applications should start? Furthermore, are they run as root?
[11:15] <indus> gharz: are you using the open source driver?
[11:15] <gharz> under System->Preference->Display... i tried "Detect Monitors" but it doesn't show 1440x900
[11:15] <gharz> indus: i'm using the default driver from jaunty... by the way... i'm using mac mini powerpc
[11:15] <indus> gharz: go to system>administration > hardware drivers and check?
[11:16] <Dougal> Can anyone advise on getting sftp to transfer whole directories instead of individual files?
[11:16] <gharz> indus: only Broadcom Wireless 4312 driver is showing
[11:16] <indus> gharz: ati drivers probably provide better performance and resolutions * citation needed*
[11:16] <jesus1> Anyone
[11:16] <jesus1> ?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> gharz: you need to install ati drivers
[11:16] <emile> dougal: mount the sftp in nautilus and just drag and drop
[11:16] <gharz> indus: how about reconfiguring my xserver-xorg
[11:16] <gharz> ?
[11:17] <m1r> i have installed  ATI drivers manualy over Envyng and cant even load synaptic now to remove them :)
[11:17] <indus> gharz: hmm that doesnt seem to work with ubuntu these days ,all automatic
[11:17] <indus> gharz: u can edit your xorg file
[11:17] <indus> gharz: see that link i gave you
[11:17] <dunplayplay> how to edit xorg.conf
[11:17] <emile> dougal: if i remember well (s)ftp on cli doesnt support put for dir (you should mkdir them and use mput for multiple files)
[11:18] <gharz> indus: ok... let me check on that
[11:18] <dunplayplay> indus can indicate the link again
[11:18] <indus> gharz: also i suggest check the forums under hardwre and laptops
[11:18] <indus> gharz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[11:18] <indus> gharz: wait dont see that link it sucks
[11:18] <gharz> indus: ok
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !envy | m1r
[11:18] <indus> gharz: not updated good, i search for another
[11:18] <jesus1> When editing startup applications in the GUI, which file changes? Or even, which are the files determining, for any wm/de what applications should start? Furthermore, are they run as root?
[11:18] <dunplayplay> indus: can indicate the link for xorg edit?
[11:19] <indus> dunplayplay: searching
[11:19] <Wistful> I just downloaded the linux-source with sudo apt-get linux-source and in the ReadMe page it says : "Linux is a clone of the operating system Unix, written from scratch by Linus Torvalds with assistance from a loosely-knit team of hackers across the Net." ??
[11:19] <Wistful> What is that?
[11:19] <StupidWeasel> A description of what linux is =P
[11:19] <Wistful> written from scratch by Linus Torvalds ? they refer to the kernel or the whole OS ?
[11:19] <m1r> ActionParsnip: Package envyng-gtk is not installed, so not removed
[11:19] <indus> Wistful: ya its true as far as fundamental stuff
[11:20] <StupidWeasel> The OS is GNU
[11:20] <indus> Wistful: or the way the kernel is written
[11:20] <Wistful> they wrote it wrong!
[11:20] <StupidWeasel> Or rather, started out as gnu. The kernel is linux == linus trovalds et al.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> m1r: try: dpkg -l | grep envy
[11:20] <indus> Wistful: processes, hardware handling etc, cant explain in words its  a tech topic
[11:20] <m1r> ActionParsnip: it seems it installed envyng-qt version (i am using gnome)
[11:21] <Dougal> emile: thanks. I wouldn't know how to mount in Nautilus, but i'll take a look at nput
[11:21] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> m1r: i'd uninstall it. it sucks and isnt supported
[11:21] <m1r> ActionParsnip: u mean not to use envyng at all ?
[11:21] <indus> gharz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968048&highlight=ati+resolutions
[11:21] <indus> gharz: maybe good for you
[11:21] <gharz> indus: how about doing a dpgk-reconfigure xserve-xorg? will this help?
[11:22] <gharz> indus: ok let me check that link
[11:22] <Nicd-> Wistful: what do you mean by that?
[11:22] <indus> gharz: well, those commands dont do anything these days, worked in dapper drake time
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> m1r: no its not supported
[11:22] <Vinceman> the command get * should work in FTP, why doesn't it? ftp can't open
[11:22] <gharz> indus: ic
[11:22] <m1r> ActionParsnip: ok thanks, but what would you recomend then ?
[11:23] <indus> gharz: they changed a lot of things since hardy so not as easy as before now
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> m1r: what video card do you have?
[11:23] <Wistful> Nicd-: "Linux is a clone of the operating system Unix, written from scratch by Linus Torvalds , with assistance bla bla" How can this be true? I don't understand? Linus just wrote the kernel and how it interacts with the other parts of the OS..
[11:23] <indus> gharz: i used to fix my issues with taht command before :)
[11:23] <m1r> ActionParsnip: had nvidia 7300 and changed to ATI  HD 4350
[11:23] <gharz> indus: thanks... so let me just follow that instruction from your latest link which you have provided
[11:23] <indus> gharz: that ati card in link is old , so only follow some basic xorg editing tips, or try for similar threads
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !ati | m1r
[11:24] <indus> m1r: choose your stuff http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=64202772
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> m1r: i'd have stuck with the nvidia personally
[11:25] <m1r> ActionParsnip: problem is my card dont get detected under hardware drivers which would allow me install of driver (using ubuntu 8.04.3 64bit
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> m1r: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> m1r: reboot, job done
[11:26] <m1r> ActionParsnip: i have ATI inside now :/ 4350
[11:26] <indus> m1r: you have ati or nvidia?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> m1r: then you need the ati driver from www.ati.com
[11:26] <Nicd-> Wistful: maybe it just refers to the kernel
[11:27] <m1r> ActionParsnip: thanks, will check it out
[11:27] <Wistful> Nicd- : It doens't ! It's written in the sense of an entire OS.. and it's plain wrong
[11:28] <indus> Wistful: its not wrong
[11:28] <indus> Wistful: probably a minnix clone but whatever
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Wistful: doesnt change the price of bread does it?
[11:29] <juarez> can anyone pls help me
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !ask | juarez
[11:30] <Slart> Wistful: check the kernel.org main page.. under the heading "What is Linux?".. they have the same sentence there.. I don't think the ubuntu developers wrote that text themselves
[11:30] <indus> !offtopic | Wistful
[11:31] <Wistful> Ok.. Next time I'll just skip the area where it says : What is Linux? because is plain wrong and it doesn't make any sense..
[11:31] <juarez> ok sorry,  well im trying to transfer some files from my laptop running BackTrack to  my ps running XP.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> is backtrack suppoted here?
[11:32] <pvh_sa|wrk> hey all... how do i fix my file associations on ubuntu (9.04) - i've got .odt files associated with an old (no longer installed) version of openoffice, would like to fix that.
[11:32] <sena--> Wistful: i think you are right, i think referrign to OS should be fairer to say GNU/Linux, because Stallman did equally good job and deservers credit
[11:32] <loloid-sensei> bonjour
[11:32] <jrib> !defaultapp | pvh_sa|wrk
[11:32] <juarez> its based on Ubuntu 8.10
[11:33] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> pvh_sa|wrk: right click file -> open with, then browse to the app you want to use in /usr/bin
[11:33] <pvh_sa|wrk> thanks ActionParsnip and jrib
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> juarez: doesnt matter, if its not an official release its not supported in the official channel
[11:33] <eni23> hello at all. exists a script for cleaning folders from windows-stuff ? (eg. desktop.ini & thumbs.db & albumart, upper-case-file-extensions..)
[11:33] <Slart> !derivatives | juarez
[11:33] <Slart> juarez: I think backtrack falls into that category
[11:34] <juarez> ok, tks anyway
[11:34] <ZzIppo_> Acer Aspire One 531 / Eee 900 /AO D250 / manually partition the disk. partitioning menu, but any changes I make aren't actually applied.!??
[11:34] <ZzIppo_> "No root file system is defined" message ,, back 2 previos screen,, can"t install,, ,, Alpha 5 September 3rd is ok,!? daily live is fubar,,cant install!?  ,, why what!?
[11:35] <Slart> ZzIppo_: talking about karmic koala aka 9.10? go ask in #ubuntu+1 in that case
[11:35] <gharz> indus: i can't still find the solution :(
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> juarez: install an official release and we can help
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> juarez: derivitives amy have weirdsettings and apps which we dont know about
[11:37] <indus> gharz: did u try edit xorg file?
[11:37] <indus> gharz: this is a common problem so iam sure you will find a thread on forums, iam nvidia user so not sure how to help
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | ZzIppo
[11:38] <gharz> indus: i'll edit xorg manually by adding "1440 x 900" on the Screen section?
[11:38] <indus> gharz: also have crt monitor
[11:38] <juarez> ok, but the whole aim is to rescue  some files from a damaged HDD and if i run 9.04 on live cd, it wont let me acces my HD
[11:38] <indus> gharz: yes i have read ppl do that
[11:38] <sena--> juarez: you may setup ftp server and client and exchange files this way for backtrack support go to #remote-exploit channel
[11:38] <indus> gharz: type xrandr on terminal
[11:38] <gharz> indus: ok... let me try it.
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> juarez: you can use foremost and testdisk in live 9.04
[11:38] <juarez> tks mate
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> juarez: you should have a data backup too if the data is important
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> juarez: no backup == data is disposable
[11:39] <jumbers> What would cause mail to root to get backed up in the mail queue and never sent properly? (Running postfix)
[11:39] <gharz> indus: this is the result of xrandr   http://paste.ubuntu.com/271406/
[11:40] <indus> gharz: maybe thats the problem
[11:40] <gharz> indus: what's the problem?
[11:43] <indus> gharz: NICE linke https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[11:43] <indus> gharz: be patient when reading,
[11:44] <indus> gharz: this should be of help .good luck :)
[11:44] <gharz> thanks
[11:44] <gharz> brb
[11:46] <WishingMaster> i want to get latest updates(nightly builds) from GNOME,can anyone give me the apt line of the repository, for example  'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main'. for GNOME
[11:48] <Slart> WishingMaster: they have a deb repository? not just git or svn?
[11:48] <gharz> indus: perfect!!!! i just changed the virtual value to 1440 900 and it worked!!!!!
[11:48] <gharz> thanks!
[11:49] <WishingMaster> Slart, so you mean like kde sends nightly updates GNOME doesnt ?
[11:49] <Stoy> I am looking for a program that will allow me to rotate a video 90 degrees, I have looked at PiTiVi and OpenShot, but no luck yet, anyone got any ideas?
[11:50] <Slart> WishingMaster: I have no idea what KDE does
[11:50] <WishingMaster> Slart, okay can you give me the apt line for GNOME?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: just because they are both DEs doesnt mean they both do nighly builds
[11:51] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, got that dude...
[11:52] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[11:54] <FrEaKmAn_> hi, how could I check which ports are used in ubuntu server?
[11:54] <Slart> FrEaKmAn_: netstat might be useful.. try looking for listening ports
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: netstat -a
[11:57] <FrEaKmAn_> and I-Node is what? port?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: the number after the colon is the port
[11:58] <gharz> guys, how do i install flash in powerpc? i have already executed apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras but flash wasn't installed. please help.
[11:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, has anyone encountered probs after the last updates of today?
[11:58] <gharz> !flash
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> gharz: you need gnash or swfdec
[11:59] <Slart> FrEaKmAn_: I think an i-node is something in a file system.. netstat displays a *lot* of information.. the trick is to trim it down to something you can use
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: netstat -b looks good
[11:59] <smn_> hi people. I got a folder /opt and i wnat to be able to create fodler and files under that directory. The /opt directory has root as owner at the moment. How can i give myslef accses?
[11:59] <smn_> hi people. I got a folder /opt and i wnat to be able to create fodler and files under that directory. The /opt directory has root as owner at the moment. How can i give myslef accses?
[11:59] <smn_> hi people. I got a folder /opt and i wnat to be able to create fodler and files under that directory. The /opt directory has root as owner at the moment. How can i give myslef accses?
[12:00] <Slart> FrEaKmAn_: the man page describes a lot of switches to filter the content.. you can use grep as well
[12:00] <gharz> ActionParsnip: which is better amongst the two? gnash of swfdec?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> smn_: use sudo mkdir to create the folder, then run: sudo chown :$USER <the folder you created>
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> gharz: ive no experience of either. i dont use ppc
[12:01] <gharz> ok thanks
[12:01] <FrEaKmAn_> Slart, ActionParsnip - thanks. The problem was that apache didnt want to start and I needed to know if its running. Checking the logs solved my problem
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you will then give your users group ownership, you can then chmos the group permissions but the owner will be root ;)
[12:01] <gharz> ActionParsnip: when i ran apt-get install gnash... my system says gnash is already the newest version
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: you can use: ps -ef | grep <something>     to find out too
[12:02] <presidente> hi
[12:02] <xurxo> When I tell terminal: sudo apt-get install subversion, I get : E couldn`t find package suversion. Any Ideas? Thanks!
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> gharz: i think you need gnash-mozillaplugin or someting. Try:   apt-cache search gnash | grep moz
[12:02] <obiwan__> hi please, i need to know how to look built modules in my kernel. I have to do this:   Validate you don't have loaded (or built into the kernel) the Linux community provided  driver for Broadcom hardware
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> !info subversion
[12:02] <Nicd-> xurxo: did you type suversion? :P
[12:02] <presidente> i have a problem with file avi, i use ubuntu 9.04 in an Asus a4000
[12:02] <Slart> xurxo: subversion.. not suversion
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> obiwan__: sudo apt-get install subversion
[12:03] <xurxo> no. suBversion
[12:03] <obiwan__> why ActionParsnip ?
[12:03] <smn_> actionparsnip: any way i can do that in gui?
[12:03] <obiwan__> i'm happy with sudo apt-get xd
[12:03] <presidente> can you help me?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> obiwan__: sorry crossed lines
[12:03] <obiwan__> hah ok ok ;:)
[12:03] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, has anyone encountered probs after the last updates of today?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> presidente: can you expand a little
[12:03] <xurxo> I did it right in the terminal. Also, I did the mirror test in the Software sources
[12:03] <obiwan__> alo presidente hah yeah explain
[12:04] <presidente> the file avi don't work with vlc
[12:04] <smn_> ActionParsnip owner: root, group: root
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> obiwan__: if you run: lsmod you can see all loaded modules
[12:04] <obiwan__> mmm strange avi should work :S
[12:04] <presidente> the screen is black
[12:04] <obiwan__> yeah action, but the message says: loaded + builtin
[12:04] <obiwan__> hi please, i need to know how to look built modules in my kernel. I have to do this:   Validate you don't have loaded (or built into the kernel) the Linux community provided  driver for Broadcom hardware
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> presidente: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras as well as w32codecs or w64codecs
[12:05] <presidente> yes
[12:05] <Nicd-> I have a VNC problem (low resolution) when no monitor is connected, as describe here: http://www.nytsoi.net/files/vncproblem.html -- Can anyone look into it?
[12:05] <obiwan__> i don't know how to look the builtin modules
[12:05] <ubuntu> hey .. where can I find a tutorial to make a 5.1 home cinema to work all 6 channels ? because there are just 2 channels working right now :|
[12:05] <presidente> i did it
[12:05] <gharz> ActionParsnip: thanks!!! now flash is playing
[12:05] <presidente> i installed all codec (i think)
[12:06] <xurxo> My Computer Janitor wont work. I says: Essential package dash is missing. There may be problems with apt sources.list or Packages files may be missing? Suggestions? Thanks!
[12:06] <obiwan__> i think there's one option in aptget to seek for missing dependancies, but don't know which
[12:06] <obiwan__> presidente
[12:06] <presidente> yes
[12:07] <gharz> thanks guys for all the help!!! ubuntu rocks!!! thanks people.
[12:07] <ubuntu> hey .. where can I find a tutorial to make a 5.1 home cinema to work all 6 channels ? because there are just 2 channels working right now :|
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> gharz: awesome...oh, oh well
[12:08] <presidente> obiwan__ the dipendancies are ok
[12:09] <Slart> ubuntu: are you playing 5.1 sound to test it? I'm not sure if there is anything in the default install to "enhance" 2.0 sound to 5.1 but afaik it should play 5.1 sound through all the speakers if they are there
[12:10] <obiwan__> hm then i don't know :(
[12:10] <ubuntu> Slart, I can't make 5.1 work by default.. I set on 6 channels, but nothing.
[12:10] <ubuntu> in alsamixer
[12:10] <smn_> ActionParsnip im confused. how do i in gui give myself acess to this foler /opt ?
[12:10] <obiwan__> the only thing i can say is sudo apt-get purge package && sudo apt-get install package
[12:10] <Giddion> hi, ive booted from the live cd,  how do i find info like CPU type / speed, memory info and HDD info?
[12:11] <obiwan__> proc/cpuinfo
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you can run your file browser using gksdo
[12:11] <obiwan__> /proc/cpuinfo
[12:11] <Giddion> just type that into terminal?
[12:11] <Slart> ubuntu: I don't have a surround sound setup for my desktop so I can't really test it myself.. you've searched the forums?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> smn_: i wouldnt give yourself ownership of /opot, use a subfolder instead
[12:12] <ubuntu> Slart, yes but I couldn't find anything for this kind of sound system.. it's on AC3 :|
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> smn_: /opt   sorry
[12:12] <smn_> ActionParsnip yeah thats fine. subfolderwise i mean.
[12:12] <Giddion> i get Permission Denied
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> smn_: sudo mkdir /opt/folder; sudo chown :$USER /opt/folder; sudo chmod g+rw /opt/folder
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> smn_: the folder will be owned by root but you will give your user full access with the chown/chmod commands
[12:14] <ubuntu> I found something but I need to reboot. brb. :)
[12:15] <presidente> nothing i don't found a solution
[12:15] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i just installed hardy, i need help, i can't get wicd and several others through sudo apt-get
[12:16] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: do i have to enable the jaunty repos?
[12:16] <Slart> !hardy
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ask te channel dude
[12:16] <presidente> but it's possible that is a problem with video driver?
[12:17] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i tried sudo aptitude install lxde and it didn't work either
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde hardy
[12:18] <tyfj> find -regex  '.+'       #why this find nothing?    thank you
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde intrepid
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: looks like its intrepid onwards, there may be a hardy ppa for it someplace
[12:18] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  i asked you if i could install it in hardy
[12:18] <zebastian> you said yes
[12:19] <Slart> tyfj: it does on my system
[12:19] <smn_> actionparsnip: http://pastebin.org/18045
[12:19] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  can i enable the jaunty repo on hardy to get wicd?
[12:19] <Slart> tyfj: you're not running it in an empty folder?
[12:19] <smn_> and i cant make folders
[12:19] <tyfj> no, I get lots file in the folder
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: there may be one, i dont use it
[12:20] <Slart> tyfj: can you pastebin the command line where you run it?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> smn_: ok thats great
[12:20] <tyfj> Slart: should I open a switch to use -regex  option?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> smn_: if you now run: ls -la /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT    you'll see the ownerships
[12:21] <Slart> tyfj: I don't understand.. "open a switch"?
[12:21] <FeasibilityStudy> anyone know how to overcome the apparmor bug that follows:
[12:21] <FeasibilityStudy> Use of uninitialized value $profile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Immunix/SubDomain.pm line 4401.
[12:21] <zebastian> i just edited the sources.list how do i upgrade it?
[12:22] <smn_> actionparsnip http://pastebin.org/18047
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> smn_: well you are root so you have access anyway, you shouldnt use root at all
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> sudo > smn_
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> !sudo > smn_
[12:24] <smn_> http://pastebin.org/18048
[12:24] <tosmo> hi, after upgrading to 9.04/jaunty /etc/network/interfaces seems not to work anymore. there's a pre-up rule for my ppp connection, which isn't executed anymore. is /etc/network/interfaces deprecated for some reason?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> tosmo: interfaces supercedes all:)
[12:24] <tyfj> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271414/                any hints on how to use:  find -regex
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you ran the command as root, so $USER will turn into root and not your normal user
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you shouldnt be using root and the account should not be enabled for secuity
[12:26] <smn_> argh. doing it again
[12:26] <Slart> tyfj: can you explain what you're trying to do?    running   "find -regex '.+'"   gives me lots and lots of files when I run it in my home folder
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> smn_: stay off root, youwill get less issues
[12:27] <smn_> i can make folders and files now
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> smn_: as user?
[12:27] <manoue> tosmo I apologize for ActionParsnip's ridiculous and useless answer. No /etc/network/interfaces is not deprecated
[12:27] <smn_> as user
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> smn_: cool :)
[12:27] <tyfj> Slart: it should do what you got,  but   "find -regex '.+' " give me nothing always, in any folders
[12:28] <manoue> tosmo are you sure your updated file is the same as the original?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> smn_: its not hugely secure, the owner is nobody, which is why you can access it
[12:29] <s12en7s120> whats up, i need a little help
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> smn_: as user run: sudo chown root:$USER /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT; sudo chmod g+rw /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> smn_: the folder will then have the owner of root but your normal user will have full access too
[12:30] <smn_> doing it
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !ask | s12en7s120
[12:31] <smn_> done and i can use the folder
[12:31] <smn_> thanks!
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> smn_: cool
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> smn_: if you run the ls -la again you can check the permissions
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> smn_: should be   root smn
[12:33] <smn_> ive did the command but /opt/lampp/htdocs checking permissions
[12:34] <smn_> http://pastebin.org/18049
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> smn_: sudo chown -R root:$USER /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT; sudo chmod -R g+rw /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT
[12:35] <ismailbhutta1> how to install php 6.0
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> smn_: then the permissions will be set recursively on all the files
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !php
[12:36] <ismailbhutta1> php 6.0 installation
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> ismailbhutta1: http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/08/howto-install-php6-in-ubuntu-debian.html
[12:37] <manoue> ismailbhutta1 you must forgive ActionParsnip, he is neither very bright, nor does he read questions properly
[12:37] <floris|celeron> yay, installed ubuntu 9 on a celeron 400 machine
[12:37] <afrikaX> why does my firewall block traffic thru my vpn connection? (1723 + pptp ports are wide open) but the firewall seems to care about the traffic inside the vpn?
[12:37] <manoue> ActionParsnip please actually read the questions. Thank you
[12:37] <bazhang> manoue, please stop that
[12:37] <floris|celeron> 256mb ram teehee
[12:37] <ismailbhutta1> manoue: hmmm seems he give right link
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> manoue: the link i gave tells how to install php6 on ubuntu does it not?
[12:37] <Abueleitor> hi, someone here know what frameworks its the best one for meddium- scale projects, thx (i tested zend)
[12:37] <Halitech> floris|celeron, what desktop did you install on that machine?
[12:37] <manoue> ActionParsnip do not address me until I ask you to. Thank you.
[12:37] <smn_> actiopnparsnip its done
[12:38] <ukev> hi, my gnome does start firefox on every login, how can I disable this?
[12:38] <bazhang> manoue, please stop
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> manoue: as long as you give me the same coutesy. thank you too
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !sessions
[12:38] <smn_> http://pastebin.org/18050
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[12:38] <floris|celeron> ubuntu desktop 9, 699mb.iso 32bit. on a 6,4 gb quantum fireball ata drive., 400 mhz celeron system, 256mb ram, wifi card, wpa2 connection, on a 30mbit internet docsis3 accuont , lol
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  it may of some how got saved to your default session. (thats a feature, where it rembers what you had open when you logged off)
[12:39] <SharpRain> Hmm
[12:39] <Halitech> floris|celeron, you actually installed gnome on it? wow, bet it just flies ~L~
[12:39] <ukev> Dr_Willis, yes I know about startup settings in gnome, but the point is: firefox is not inside the startup list and it is not inside the bashrc file..
[12:39] <floris|celeron> yep, gnome.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> floris|celeron: not a bad system
[12:39] <floris|celeron> flies, well ... hehe, it works.
[12:39] <manoue> !ot | ActionParsnip
[12:39] <jakes> tar: option requires an argument -- C whats that mean?
[12:39] <floris|celeron> man, i cn't blieve i did web design on this back in 98. :0
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> manoue: you should fire that at floris|celerontoo to mainain integrity
[12:40] <jakes> Anyone know what this means
[12:40] <jakes> tar: option requires an argument -- C
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> jakes: what command did you run to get it?
[12:40] <jakes> sudo tar xvzf z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C /
[12:40] <smn_> can you check the output actionparsnip? http://pastebin.org/18050
[12:41] <Dr_Willis>  ukev  check the startup applicatons perferences. OPTIONS tab.   perhaps. you could close all apps.. and tell it to 'save/rember' that way it rembers  that nothing was running I guess.
[12:41] <ukev> Dr_Willis, but you are right, I used the "remember session programes" feature and so firefox started every login but now i disabled this feature but firefox is still starting every time
[12:41] <Moz_> Hi. Im new to linux but would like to have a server running linux and asterisk. Im going to install ubuntu but would people recommend the server or desktop edition? Im thinking server as I can then use the server as my office server as well as asterisk box.
[12:42] <simplexio> Moz_: server if you can handle cmdline
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> smn_: looks great, you can now write their as your user
[12:42] <Halitech> Moz_, are you familiar with using the command line?
[12:42] <ukev> Dr_Willis, I tried that already, also I could't find a place in gconf where firerfox is mentioned to be started
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> smn_: can you also use http://pastebin.com  it doesnt have all that adware crap
[12:42] <simplexio> Moz_: dekstop eats RAM
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  theres also system settings --> Session manager - It has a check box to 'start with a empty session'
[12:42] <Moz_> Simplxio / Halitech - Im not confident using the command line yet. I plan on learning a lot more but at the moment dont have the experience.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jakes: tar does use -C, maybe it needs to go before the file
[12:43] <Moz_> Simplxio / Halitech - al;though Im very confident with a windows command line.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  oh wait.. thats a kde app. :) i got both on this box.
[12:43] <floris> not sure what happened, lol, tried to copy/paste the image http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/693961/Sep%2015%2C%202009_2/DSCF0443.JPG and then xchat lcosed, hehe. anuway, that is the system
[12:43] <KoolD> hey how to install a wireless usb in ubuntu???can some one point me to a document?
[12:43] <Halitech> Moz_, you could still install the server version and then install ebox to do the configuration
[12:43] <Skarpz> I downloaded Mythbuntu on my system and now want it off, how do I do that?
[12:43] <Moz_> Halitech - ok thanks for the info.
[12:43] <Halitech> !ebox | Moz_
[12:43] <simplexio> Moz_: yeah. well basicly you do all conf into files. so you learn cli command and howto use nano quite fast, besides all howtos for server side are pretty much for cli
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> KoolD: if you have it attatched and run: sudo lshw -C network     you can see what chip it uses and wesearch from that
[12:44] <Moz_> simplexio / Halitech: Thanks for the quick advice. I'll give server editiona try and see how I get on.
[12:44] <simplexio> Moz_: and like i said, if you run X + gnome (default ubuntu desktop) you use alot RAM for it
[12:45] <KoolD> ActionParsnip:thanks, i'll check it out
[12:45] <floris> well, i am glad this worked, lol, ubuntu for the win. now to find uot how to let the ubuntu 9 server edition to find the wireless connection and set a pass for it, etc, .. and auto connect, .. on ethernet it is not a problem, but doing wifi is a bit more tricky for me.
[12:45] <simplexio> Moz_: just learn to love bash, <TAB> extend commnds or give option out on cli, helps alot
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> KoolD: if nothing comes up, use     lsusb   you can then search for the 8 character hex code
[12:45] <ukev> Dr_Willis, hm... any other idea? is there no documentation about where startup-hooks can be?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  never noticed - really never had the problem.  Not got somthing in the Autostart directory?
[12:46] <KoolD> ActionParsnip:thanks, i got a interface,just had to enable it
[12:46] <uni4dfx> bluetooth isn't supposed to work in jaunty right? it can't receive files; when copying a file from obex it will freeze and then you can't unmount the device, etc
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> KoolD: nice :)
[12:48] <ukev> Dr_Willis, no, the autostart dir is empty... I also tried to search with the gconf-editor the term "firefox" but there was no entry which had to do something with startup or autostart
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ukev: you can symlink the .desktop entried from /usr/share/applications in ~/.config/autostart
[12:48] <Skarpz> Anyone know how to get Mythbuntu completely off?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> s/entried/entries
[12:50] <xeer> I am trying to use the 'net' table in iptables, it says "iptables v1.4.0 can't initialize iptables table 'net': table does not exist (do you need insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded"
[12:50] <xeer> I'm using intrepid 8.10
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Skarpz:  fire up the package manager and remove it.. but it installed a lot of dependencies. such as mysql and so forth. Getting all tose off ,may be a little hareder
[12:51] <Blizzerand> xeer : Have you updated your Ubuntu system
[12:51] <zxd_> Yes!
[12:51] <s12en7s120> hey, whats up
[12:51] <xeer> Blizzerand:  apt-get update?
[12:51] <zxd_> 9.04
[12:51] <s12en7s120> s
[12:51] <ukev> ActionParsnip, in .config/autostart are a few .desktop files, but now firefox related one
[12:51] <s12en7s120> does anyone know of any operating systems specificly made for window repair
[12:51] <s12en7s120> windows XP
[12:51] <s12en7s120> repair
[12:51] <s12en7s120> that are linux based
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> s12en7s120:  check out the 'system rescue livecd' and the gparted livecd
[12:52] <afrikaX> why does my firewall block traffic thru my vpn connection? (1723 + pptp ports are wide open) but the firewall seems to drop the traffic inside the vpn? when the firewall is off the vpn works. but as it connects the opened ports work but the firewall shaps the traffic inside, is it supposed to do that?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> s12en7s120:  and others at 'distrowatch' web site
[12:52] <s12en7s120> ohh shoot, lol
[12:52] <Skarpz> Dr_Willis: What I want it to do is to stop stopping at startup to need to go into recovery mode to download packages. How can I do what you've said? I've tried just removing the desktop but it wasn't enough. Most everything is still there.
[12:53] <Blizzerand> xeer : Yup or just use up System --> Administration --> Software Update or something of that sort . Beware , there may be about 300 MB updates if you are updating for the first time
[12:53] <s12en7s120> would qtParted work as well from Knoppix or BT3?
[12:53] <alfredo> re
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Skarpz:  could be gdm is auto logging in, and starting it up as the default session. Ive not used muthbuntu in ages.
[12:53] <smn_> thanks actionparsnip ill use pastebin.com from now on.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Skarpz:  the 'mythbuntu-desktop' package you mean? thats just a meta-package that pulled in everything else it needed. It does nothing to remove that.
[12:54] <Skarpz> ah
[12:54] <xeer> Blizzerand:  I have a server install so the upgrade is only 62mb
[12:55] <shos> Helli, does anybody know of a solution to the slow usb transfer rate problem on ubuntu jaunty 9.04 amd64 ?
[12:55] <Skarpz> Dr_Willis: yeah instead of Ubuntu or Kubuntu it says Mythbuntu when loading
[12:55] <Nicd-> how would I tell my system to start vncserver (Xvnc) instead of X?
[12:55] <Nicd-> when booting
[12:55] <Blizzerand> xeer : k , go ahead . that should solve the prob
[12:56] <s12en7s120> upgrade your USB
[12:56] <shos> what do you mean
[12:57] <zxd_> Where are you?
[12:57] <Slart> shos: you mean "slowing down until it's just a trickle where I could copy the bytes by hand and still be faster"-problem?
[12:58] <shos> Slart: yes that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150108&page=24
[12:58] <ukev> are there no other possibilities for programs to autostart?
[12:58] <s12en7s120> do you have the kernal update?
[12:58] <zxd_> 好厉害
[12:58] <Slart> shos: not really sure why but I have no problems using my usb hard drive.. but transferring a 4GB file to a usb stick just dies after 500MB or so
[12:58] <jrib> ukev: possibilities other than ...?
[12:58] <Pici> !zh | zxd_
[12:59] <s12en7s120> did you get the kernel update?
[12:59] <Nicd-> how would I tell my Ubuntu to start vncserver (Xvnc) instead of X when booting up?
[12:59] <Pici> !who
[12:59] <s12en7s120> the Ubuntu
[12:59] <Ulises> !who
[12:59] <s12en7s120> shoes--
[12:59] <bazhang> s12en7s120, which one do you mean
[12:59] <zxd_> 谢谢！Thank you! 3Q!
[12:59] <s12en7s120> kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:59] <shos> Slart: sometimes its ok but sometmimes its really slow like 1.5 mb sec
[13:00] <ukev> jrib, the .config/autostart/ directory, .bashrc, gnome settings -> session/startup settings.... My firefox is starting every login but in none of these lists
[13:00] <Slart> shos: I don't have any good solutions for it... I just avoid using usb sticks and large files =/ I'm guessing one of these days someone will look up while reading the kernel source code and say "Hey, what's that comma doing there" or something similar
[13:00] <s12en7s120> or if thats not the one then usually kernel <IP_ADDRESS> will fix the problem
[13:00] <s12en7s120> im talking to you shoes
[13:00] <jrib> ukev: does it happen to a new user?
[13:00] <ukev> jrib, no it does not
[13:00] <Slart> shos: oh.. 1.5 MB/s.. mine just goes down to well..1 byte/s or so
[13:00] <Blizzerand> xeer : How did it go . Sorry but I had to reboot the PC.
[13:01] <jrib> ukev: grep -R firefox ~/.*
[13:01] <xeer> Blizzerand:  almost done downloading packages
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  if you want a 'hidden' vnc session  thats not the current desktop. You can install/run some of the 'vncserver' servers such as tightvnc.
[13:01] <ukev> jrib, it happens only after I set gnome to save the session on logout but now I deactivated the feature but firefox and rhythmbox are still starting automatically
[13:02] <tawan> is Opera 10 working well on Ubuntu? I have it on Debian Sid and the menus don't work well.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> tawan:  it worked here - last i tried it.
[13:02] <pythagoras> hwy wasup all
[13:02] <indus> hi
[13:02] <jrib> ukev: tried turning the feature on, turning off those programs, logging out, logging in, disabling the feature?
[13:02] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: I want it to start the vncserver in place of the normal desktop. The computer is to be used via VNC only.
[13:03] <ukev> jrib, yes, I tried that
[13:03] <jrib> ukev: try the grep then
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  theres 2 ways to do vnc.. Share/show the current desktop OR have a hidden vnc session thats NOT visiable from the local machine.
[13:03] <amnesia> hi, a quick question how come my user is able to remove this folder?
[13:03] <amnesia> amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ ls -lA | grep bla drwx------ 2 root    root          4096 2009-09-15 13:55 bla amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ rm -r bla rm: descend into write-protected directory `bla'? yes
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  if you want you could set up gnome to auto-login and start  the gnome vnc feature.
[13:03] <Skarpz> rebooting
[13:04] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: I tried vino but it has problems when running headless
[13:04] <Slart> amnesia: it really deletes it if you answer yes?
[13:04] <amnesia> yup
[13:04] <amnesia> that's what I dont get..
[13:04] <Blizzerand> tawan : to make opera 10 work you have to do some tweak arounds . Try #opra
[13:04] <ukev> jrib, the grep need to much time because there are to much data in my home-dirt
[13:04] <Halitech> Nicd-, vnc isn't a desktop environment so you can't use it as replacement for gnome/kde/etc
[13:04] <jrib> amnesia: and ls -ld    ?
[13:04] <Blizzerand> tawan : I meant #opera
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  sound  like you want to use a 'normal' vncserver then. There are guides on making vnc auto spawn as needed when you connect via a vnc client also.
[13:04] <AndyA> Hi! How do I direct an exe to an existing .so file.... I've tried with ldconfig with no success...
[13:04] <Newbie> Hello i'm in the process of enabling wireless to work with my NX6125 laptop, All i've found so far is information about the broadcom 4318 driver, but from there i really havn't had much luck, could anyone possibly assist me?
[13:04] <jrib> ukev: really?  In .*?  I doubt it but start with ~/.g* then...
[13:04] <amnesia> jrib: drwxr-xr-x 2 amnesia amnesia 4096 2009-09-15 14:02 .
[13:04] <tawan> Blizzerand, specific to Debian Sid? Ok will look ;)
[13:04] <WB2Colorado>  /query chanserv info #opra
[13:04] <jrib> amnesia: there you go...
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  they can spawn via inetd I recall. With the right setup
[13:05] <ukev> jrib, yes really, because of .virtualbox .wine and a lot more.. :)... I will try it
[13:05] <jrib> ukev: good point
[13:05] <pythagoras> is ubantu really good??
[13:05] <duffydack> Nicd-, I`d probably use NX if I wanted to connect and run a desktop session as needed.
[13:05] <jrib> pythagoras: try it for yourself and see if it is really good for *you*
[13:05] <amnesia> jrib: others can only execute aka view the contents right?
[13:05] <Nicd-> Halitech, Dr_Willis, isn't Xvnc supposed to work as an X server for the applications? shouldn't it be possible for it to replace X then?
[13:05] <jrib> amnesia: -ENOCONTEXT
[13:06] <pythagoras> what do you use jrib
[13:06] <Blizzerand> pythagoras : Yep or you could try any other linux distributions too
[13:06] <duffydack> Nicd-, is ssh -X forwarding not an option ?
[13:06] <Slart> pythagoras: nope.. but ubuntu is ok
[13:06] <Halitech> Nicd-, no, it acts as a forwarder for a currently running x server
[13:06] <amnesia> -enocontext?
[13:06] <jrib> pythagoras: I use ubuntu and arch...
[13:06] <pythagoras> what is similar to windows...
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  you are not understanding how vnc works. Since you are 'headless' you dont want to use Xvnc or X11vnc. You want a normal 'vncserver'
[13:06] <jrib> amnesia: content of what?
[13:06] <amnesia> jrib: the folder (drwxr-xr-x 2 amnesia amnesia 4096 2009-09-15 14:02 .)
[13:07] <KULA_> hi :)
[13:07] <jrib> amnesia: yeah, others can 'cd' into and list contents
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  you could  ssh in, start 'vncserver' then connect via any vnc client..   its that easy. Once ya get vnc going.
[13:07] <Ulises> Hello
[13:07] <Nicd-> duffydack: can I connect to an existing session with that?
[13:07] <chris|> pythagoras, it runs on x86 hardware
[13:07] <Newbie> /tmp/bcm4318.tar-3.gz could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. - I receive this error when trying to download the "bcm4318.tar.gz" file to open with Archive Manager from the ubuntuforums, why is that?
[13:07] <Blizzerand> pythagoras : If you are so inclined to vista try vixta linux
[13:07] <Ulises> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/271354/
[13:07] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: can I connect to an existing, running session with that?
[13:07] <amnesia> jrib: yup but how come a folder owned by root and has drwx------ can be removed by every single other user?
[13:07] <jrib> pythagoras: don't come to linux looking for windows, you will not be happy.  Think of linux as something new, different and possibly better
[13:08] <ukev> jrib, ok .p* finished and prints a few entrys but nothing with autostart, only: (gconf:) apps/browser, url-handlers: http https about unknown; avant window navigator entrys; gnome-settings: gedit; apps/lifearea; end the rest are settings of epiphany (count: 5)
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  depends on how you launch.  an existing running VNC SESSIOn.. yes...
[13:08] <jrib> amnesia: it can't
[13:08] <pythagoras> sure
[13:08] <Blizzerand> Ulises : Hello there
[13:08] <Nicd-> Halitech: this says otherwise: http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/man/Xvnc.html
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  headless means you wont have an X session going. Just vnc sessions.
[13:08] <SharpRain> How do I know if I have GTK on my system?
[13:08] <pythagoras> i download ubantu ultimate is that good
[13:08] <jrib> amnesia: pastebin commands that show what you just said
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Newbie: cd /tmp; sudo tar zxvf bcm4318.tar-3.gz
[13:08] <jrib> SharpRain: you do
[13:08] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: ok, that's an error in my part then, I thought headless just meant running without a monitor
[13:08] <SharpRain> Okay, thanks
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> SharpRain: dpkg -l | grep -i gtk
[13:08] <jrib> pythagoras: no, get regular ubuntu from ubuntu.com
[13:08] <Ulises> I can start up my ubuntu Hardy Heron
[13:08] <Ulises> can't!!!
[13:08] <Ulises> Hello Blizzerand
[13:09] <jrib> SharpRain: why do you need it?
[13:09] <Blizzerand> !ask| Ulises
[13:09] <bazhang> pythagoras, no need for it; and its not supported here-->get the original www.ubuntu.com
[13:09] <pythagoras> ohh i though ultimate was better ..more features
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  and with no monitor you cant see a local X session...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Ulises: can you expand what is happening please
[13:09] <amnesia> jrib: that's the point...
[13:09] <amnesia> jrib: amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ rm -r bla rm: descend into write-protected directory `bla'? yes amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ ls -lA | grep bla amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$
[13:09] <SharpRain> Emacs 22 says I will get a better experience if I use emacs-22-gtk one only if I have gtk on my system
[13:09] <Ulises> Blizzerand, did you watch the ling i've sent at pastebin?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  so theres no need to start up X or gdm. Peronally i found 'headless' caused to many problems.
[13:09] <SharpRain> I chose emacs-22 gtk
[13:09] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: basically I just want something like Microsoft's Remote Desktop: computer boots, logs in automatically, starts programs. I connect later and see that desktop with the programs running and can control them
[13:10] <Slart> amnesia: do you get the same result if you create the folder somewhere else? say in /opt or something
[13:10] <jrib> amnesia: that's not "any other user".  That's amnesia.  amnesia has write privileges to the parent directory, so amnesia can delete contents
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  you can set up vncserver to do that.
[13:10] <Blizzerand> Ulises : What were uyou trying to do to begin with
[13:10] <pythagoras> jrib thx
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  and you couls start the proper vncserver from rc.local
[13:10] <Slart> amnesia: I'm starting to think it's something along the lines of "you own everything in your home folder, no matter what"
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Nicd-: why not just use web interfaces to what you need. a full blown desktop is often unnecessary
[13:10] <jrib> Slart: it's not
[13:11] <SharpRain> This is a popular channel
[13:11] <Slart> jrib: oh? ahh.. nevermind. I just saw your last message.. I get it now
[13:11] <KendrickSF> Wow...I haven't used irc since the early 1990's...This is a trip down memory lane! Greetings Ubuntu gurus!
[13:12] <jakes> how do you install a .run file?
[13:12] <grawity> KendrickSF: Be prepared to meet a huge amount of spammers, trolls, newbies, and other creatures, then.
[13:12] <SharpRain> Hi I just installed Emacs and I can't find it on my system..
[13:12] <zaggynl> SharpRain: whereis emacs
[13:12] <SharpRain> I don't know
[13:12] <grawity> SharpRain: Have you tried typing "emacs" on the Terminal?
[13:13] <zaggynl> it's a command "whereis"
[13:13] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : K , I got disconnected <sorry> but can you answer the question I posted
[13:13] <grawity> SharpRain: Or "whereis emacs", as zaggynl suggested.
[13:13] <SharpRain> Hmm, thanks, that works
[13:13] <b0red> how to print system timezone?
[13:13] <shos> emacs isntalls by default in /usr/share/ i think
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> jakes: chmod +x the file then you can run it
[13:14] <KendrickSF> grawity: Thanks...This channel is running way faster than the irc channels I visited at CalPoly15 years ago.
[13:14] <Pici> b0red: Try: echo $TZ
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> SharpRain:  emacs also has a gui (x) and Non X versions.
[13:15] <Newbie> Can anyone help me with setting up my Wireless connection on a "nx6125" (Broadcom  4318) laptop? I've tried following the steps on ubuntu forums but have ran into neumerous errors
[13:15] <b0red> [root@s15305831 ~]# cat /etc/localtime
[13:15] <b0red> TZif2UTCTZif2UTC
[13:15] <b0red> UTC0
[13:15] <grawity> b0red: Try 'readlink /etc/localtime' or something.
[13:15] <Newbie> using 8.10 ^
[13:16] <neptune_> for some reason youtube .com doesn't load on my firefox
[13:16] <neptune_> anybody know why/?
[13:16] <Slart> neptune_: try ping www.youtube.com in a terminal
[13:16] <richardcavell> because your flash player sucks?
[13:16] <Boohbah> neptune_: do you have flash player version 10?
[13:16] <tawan> neptune_, the site or the movies?
[13:17] <aaron11> helo im having some problem with pigin it crashes when ever i want to type somthing to a person i read through some bugs at launchpad but didnt unserstand anything im using ubuntu jaunty and here is some extra information last night i was having some problems with my Xserver and rebooted in recovery and everything was fine but my firefox google search area on top does not work or respond to my enter key or the search button.
[13:17] <neptune_> i have flash player, itts the whole website that doesnt load, (i get a white screen)
[13:17] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[13:17] <indus> neptune_: u using 64 bit?
[13:17] <Boohbah> neptune_: are you behind a content filter that is blocking the site?
[13:17] <neptune_> ping works...
[13:17] <neptune_> Boonhbah i am not aware of it if i have it
[13:18] <aaron11> im reading through this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/248679
[13:18] <Slart> neptune_: try this then "wget -O- www.youtube.com" It should print out the source from the main page
[13:18] <jakes> Actionparsnip, that worked thanks now at the installation screen its saying "No write permission" for installation path
[13:18] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: apparently this tells me how to start the vncserver on boot: http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot -- but how do I stop the regular display from starting?
[13:18] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : You need flash player to view vids in firefox
[13:19] <neptune_> yes wget gives me the source
[13:19] <neptune_> its a firefox issue
[13:19] <amnesia> Slart: it does work in opt
[13:19] <neptune_> it just doesn't like youtub
[13:19] <neptune_> how can i reinstall firefo?X
[13:19] <amnesia> Slart: but the permissions were exactly the same..
[13:19] <abys_> amnesia
[13:19] <Slart> neptune_: yup.. then it's something with firefox.. perhaps try running firefox from a terminal and see if you get any error messages
[13:19] <amnesia> yeah?
[13:20] <abys_> be? ;)
[13:20] <amnesia> nope
[13:20] <KendrickSF> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on the unallocated space of my hard drive that has a primary partition with Windows 7 on it and some unallocated space...I've tried it twice with the default "choose between Ubuntu and your other OS," however the Windows 7 boot manager still runs and grub doesn't seem to superscede it. Suggestions?
[13:21] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: apparently this tells me how to start the vncserver on boot: http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot -- but how do I stop the regular display from starting?
[13:21] <neptune_> i am reinstalling it from synaptic
[13:21] <Slart> amnesia: jrib explained it.. if I understand it correctly the permissions on a folder doesn't mean the same as for a file (have a look here http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml#zzee_link_9_1077830297 )
[13:21] <aaron11> does anyone have an idea
[13:21] <aaron11> helo im having some problem with pigin it crashes when ever i want to type somthing to a person i read through some bugs at launchpad but didnt unserstand anything im using ubuntu jaunty and here is some extra information last night i was having some problems with my Xserver and rebooted in recovery and everything was fine but my firefox google search area on top does not work or respond to my enter key or the search button.
[13:21] <Blizzerand_> KendrickSF : Are you sure you installed it , if yes do you have the live CD
[13:21] <aaron11> im reading through this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/248679
[13:22] <Slart> amnesia: basically.. the parent folder permissions decide if the folder can be deleted, renamed and so on.. the permissions you set on the folder itself mostly restricts what you can do with the files *inside* that folder
[13:22] <neptune_> still nothing
[13:22] <neptune_> !
[13:22] <neptune_> :( what should i do?
[13:22] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ :reinstalling won't help
[13:22] <amnesia> ahh okay
[13:23] <aaron11> hi [o_O]
[13:23] <neptune_> so what's gonna help?
[13:23] <chris|> Nicd-, if you don't have a Screen, there is no point in having a VNC server
[13:23] <Nicd-> chris|: and why is that?
[13:24] <KendrickSF> @Blizzerand: I do have the live cd. it created a partition in the free space, but the grub boot manager didn't run when I rebooted. The Windows 7 boot manager ran.
[13:24] <ToXBoT> !usb
[13:24] <aaron11> >_< please read my question
[13:24] <ToXBoT> !patient | aaron11
[13:24] <chris|> Nicd-, because the reason for having a VNC server is to have that X Screen remotely available
[13:24] <ToXBoT> :p
[13:25] <aaron11> ToXBoT lol
[13:25] <ToXBoT> aaron11, I don't rem the keyword!
[13:25] <Slart> aaron11: I've read it.. I have no idea what is going on.. never had problems like that
[13:25] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : Try deleting .mozilla folder in you home folder and reinstalling firefox . Also please install adobe flash ( http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ ) select the .deb
[13:25] <neptune_> Blizzerand I have flash
[13:26] <oiahhefh> anyone removed notify-osd and replaced it? can i just replace it w the older package?
[13:26] <chris|> Nicd-, if you don't what the screen, then VNC is probably not the right service for you. Maybe you should look into SSH instead
[13:26] <KendrickSF> Oh well, I knew I was gonna have some trouble dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu.
[13:27] <Blizzerand_> KendrickSF : k boot into the live CD and try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:27] <aaron11> oh «:_(
[13:27] <Blizzerand_> !grub
[13:28] <Josh_> wow, updating ubuntu over network proxy SUCKS.
[13:28] <aaron11> cant anyone helo
[13:28] <aaron11> helo
[13:28] <aaron11> sorry hel-p
[13:29] <neptune_> [13:28] <neptune_> i deleted .mozilla and it works
[13:29] <neptune_> [13:28] <neptune_> thx
[13:29] <neptune_> [13:28] <neptune_> i lost my bookmarks tho :(
[13:29] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : k try the first part  . .mozilla is a hidden file , to unhide it use ctrl+h
[13:29] <Nicd-> chris|: no, I want a screen, that was a misunderstanding. but when I run vncserver, it tells me that something is already occupying display 0. I need to do /etc/init.d/gdm stop (which is GNOME apparently) to start vncserver
[13:29] <KendrickSF> @Blizzerand: Oy vey...That looks very helpful! Thanks so much!
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> jakes: run it with sudo
[13:30] <Nicd-> chris|: so how could I stop gdm from running (not X, my misunderstanding) so I wouldn't have to do that on every boot?
[13:30] <Ulises> Blizzerand the connection got off
[13:30] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : Sorry for the last post . That by mistake and bookmarks you can bookmark them again <sorry though>
[13:30] <Slart> aaron11: just be patient.. repeat your question every 15 minutes or so.. while you wait you can search the forums. Try to include all the details in your question.. such as what version of ubuntu you're running, 32bit/64bit and so on. screenshots are nice if something "looks weird", check /var/log/syslog for error messages.. check if the problems are the same if you're using a live cd and so on
[13:30] <Ulises> Did you wathc the error I pasted at pastebin?
[13:31] <Blizzerand_> Ulises > Do you have the live CD with you ,
[13:31] <Ulises> Yes
[13:31] <Ulises> I'm running ubuntu through it
[13:31] <Ulises> right now
[13:32] <Skarpz> Dr_Willis: I put it up in the forum and I may ask in here again at a different time
[13:32] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : K , just hang on
[13:33] <yankubasanneh> hello
[13:34] <Ulises> ok
[13:34] <yankubasanneh> hello
[13:34] <chris|> Nicd-, try sudo update-rc.d gdm remove default
[13:34] <Newbee> hello
[13:34] <Newbee> I tried to install clamav-daemon on jaunty. But when I try to scan something with clamdscan I always get: "lstat() failed: Permission denied. ERROR
[13:35] <Newbee> even if I use sudo. So I don't know what to do about it.
[13:35] <Nicd-> chris|: thanks, I'll try that
[13:35] <jeeva> need high resolution in my laptop
[13:35] <jeeva> it shows only 1024
[13:35] <jeeva> how to increase it?
[13:36] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : Which partition do you run ubuntu on
[13:36] <oreon> giorno a tutti
[13:36] <Ulises> sda1
[13:36] <indus> oreon: giorno
[13:36] <exarkun> On Hardy, when I run update-manager, it immediately opens a dialog box titled "Not all updates can be installed" and then prompts me to run a partial upgrade.  How can I tell what updates couldn't be installed, and why?  What is this a partial upgrade to?
[13:36] <oreon> •indus• ciao
[13:36] <oreon> az
[13:36] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : from a terminal run ,sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sda1
[13:37] <indus> oreon: so you have an ubuntu question ?
[13:37] <jeevaguru> need help on screen resolution
[13:37] <oreon> •indus• sei italiano
[13:37] <oreon> ??
[13:37] <Ulises> ok i did
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : What was the result
[13:38] <Myrtti> !it | oreon
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> !e2fsck
[13:38] <Myrtti> indus: pro tip: use English
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> !fsck
[13:38] <aaron11> helo im having some problem with pigin it crashes when ever i want to type somthing to a person i read through some bugs at launchpad but didnt unserstand anything im using ubuntu jaunty and here is some extra information last night i was having some problems with my Xserver and rebooted in recovery and everything was fine but my firefox google search area on top does not work or respond to my enter key or the search button.
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : Did you get any errors
[13:39] <Ulises> no
[13:39] <Ulises> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/271431/
[13:40] <RadarG> I just installed VLC and when I go to start the app it acts like it tries to open it but it fails
[13:40] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : That should have done something good , or fixed something . If not follow this article , it may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4695892
[13:40] <KendrickSF> @Blizzerand: Thanks for the "Overwriting the Windows Bootloader" link! I think that's exactly what I need. Cheers!
[13:41] <Blizzerand_> KendrickSF : Glad I could help
[13:41] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i'm on lxde now, is there a way for me to add a panel with the battery monitor beside the clock on this?
[13:41] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : Gotta go , if you have more doubts use the ubuntuforums.com
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: right click -> add to panel
[13:41] <Ulises> Ok
[13:42] <Ulises> ¡Good bye!
[13:42] <KULA_> who speak polish?? ;]
[13:42] <Newbee> can this permission problem with clamd be caused by the rights of the folders?
[13:42] <aaron111> no no forget my question
[13:42] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i did that and selected battery monitor, but when i checked it on the check list a big area of the panel simply became black
[13:42] <aaron111> i did it
[13:42] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : I'd advise you to check whether it did solve the prob though
[13:43] <Myrtti> !pl | KULA_
[13:43] <Ulises> aha
[13:43] <indus> !it > oreon
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ive not used it on laptops so maybe thats normal, run it a while, see how it changes
[13:44] <CIHAN> howdy ppl:)
[13:45] <vigo> Hello CIHAN
[13:46] <CIHAN> sup?
[13:46] <vigo> oops, I am not ppl, I am hooman.
[13:47] <vigo> Another wonderful day.
[13:47] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: how can i set compiz to work on lxde?
[13:48] <talin> hello. i downloaded a file to /usr/local/steam/bleh.bin... when i try to chmod +x bleh.bin; ./bleh.bin in that dir, it says file not found...
[13:48] <talin> any idea why?
[13:48] <talin> i tried running it with sudo
[13:49] <vigo> talin: did you mkdir or am I not awake yet?
[13:49] <cybErpunk> ..talin, do a ls /usr/local/steam and check that the file is there
[13:50] <talin> file /usr/local/steam/bleh.bin, ELF blahblah
[13:50] <talin> it is there
[13:50] <aaron111> does anyone know why i cannot log on to my youtube account
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: same as any DE
[13:50] <CIHAN> vigo if u aint ppl u shouldnt be talking u filthy hooman!
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: get drivers installed then run: compiz --replace
[13:53] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i did that but there are like no effects enabled
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you edit them in ccsm
[13:54] <Guest69970> Hi, how do I deactivate NetworkManager? If I try to add a link in rc3.d to start /etc/init.d/networking instead of NetworkManager my internet just dies (yes I have configured /etc/network/interfaces right). So how do I deactivate NetworkManager?
[13:55] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  how do i make compiz the default? i noticed it switched back after i closed the terminal
[13:55] <IdleOne> !ccsm > zebastian
[13:55] <CIHAN> so i try to conenct to youtube from turkey as u guys might know it is been blocked by the goverment
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: alt+f2   compiz --replace    press enter
[13:55] <CIHAN> there are a couple of apps to bypass this block
[13:55] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: that will last after reboot?
[13:55] <CIHAN> but there are non for linux based os
[13:56] <vigo> CIHAN: TOR and Vidalia running?
[13:56] <arand> zebastian: or use compiz --replace &diswon in terminal
[13:56] <Ytxx> anyone know how to scp a folder with its content I am getting the
[13:56] <arand> * &disown
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you may need to make a script to start it, then create a .desktop file for it in ~/.config/autostart
[13:56] <Ytxx> this error /Users/yaredtseghu/rails/test: not a regular file
[13:56] <CIHAN> just for the record i just started using backtrack
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: i dont know any other way personally
[13:56] <grawity> Ytxx: Try scp -r
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> CIHAN: you can use stuff like http://www.hidemyass.com
[13:57] <CIHAN> i know about proxys
[13:57] <CIHAN> but that slows down
[13:57] <CIHAN> the connection speeds in turkey are shit already
[13:58] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: is there an lxde channel? how do you make a script?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> CIHAN: keep it PG with the language
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: gksudo leafpad
[13:58] <ManDay> Guys I can't redirect output of a certain program to file. I do    &> logfile programname  and actually everything goes into logfile BUT the only thing that I really care about is still printed to screen - how can this be?!?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: #!/bin/bash
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: compiz --replace
[13:58] <LjL> ManDay: it's being output to stderr
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: have those 2 lines in the file
[13:59] <grawity> LjL: But &> redirects both.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: save the file in /usr/bin as startcompiz
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: then run: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startcompiz
[13:59] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Why not exec compiz --replace?
[13:59] <prince_jammys> ManDay: perhaps your prog outputs directly to the terminal.
[13:59] <zamba> how do i set the timezone?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> grawity: same thing....
[14:00] <LjL> grawity: oh. i didn't know, always did both separately.
[14:00] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Without 'exec', you have a useless /bin/bash running in a corner.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you may want to add a & on the end
[14:00] <ManDay> prince_jammys, what is the technical difference?
[14:00] <ManDay> (what does the program do differently) ?
[14:00] <prince_jammys> ManDay: ie. (in a shell script): echo foo > /dev/tty
[14:01] <ManDay> ah
[14:01] <grawity> ManDay: It might write to /dev/tty instead of stdout.
[14:01] <prince_jammys> &> will not redirect that
[14:01] <talin> how is this possible? sudo mkdir /usr/local/steam; sudo wget http://.../hldsupdatetool.bin; sudo chmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin; sudo ./hldsupdatetool.bin ... "no such file or dir"?
[14:01] <ManDay> ok, but how do i log this stuff then?
[14:01] <grawity> ActionParsnip: And with 'exec', compiz replaces bash.
[14:01] <prince_jammys> ManDay: well, first make certain that that is really the case.
[14:02] <ManDay> prince_jammys, it most likely is the case - as you said
[14:02] <ManDay> So how do I log what it sends to the tty directly?
[14:02] <prince_jammys> painfully.
[14:02] <jrib> talin: you're missing a file or directory, not necessarily that one.  See if you have those ia32* packages installed....
[14:02] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: add an a on the end of what?
[14:02] <prince_jammys> i don't even know. perhaps with a tool like screen
[14:02] <ManDay> prince_jammys, thats a good idea
[14:02] <ManDay> ill try
[14:03] <prince_jammys> or maybe 'script', which i've never used.
[14:03] <talin> jrib: the problem is thati  don't know that the ia32-equivalent packages are called on freebsd
[14:03] <ManDay> prince_jammys, huh?
[14:03]  * jrib looks at channel name
[14:03] <prince_jammys> ManDay: man script also to see if it's of use.
[14:03] <talin> jrib: i've been reading troubleshooting stuff for linux
[14:03] <jrib> talin: freebsd has a channel on freenode iirc
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: the line: compiz --replace &      is correct. I missed the &
[14:04] <talin> jrib: ? this is freebsd... but there is 0 documentation for freebsd and steam
[14:04] <Pici> talin: This channel is #ubuntu
[14:04] <jrib> talin: this is #ubuntu, try the freebsd channel
[14:04] <talin> oops, wrong window
[14:04] <Idhan> I have problem with the java plugin with firefox ... java is installed but firefox doesnt use it..how can I do it?
[14:04] <ManDay> prince_jammys, if you could tell me how to make a terminal scrollable i could also go with that. my problem is that the program crashes and gives an error message which is too long to fit into the terminal - so i cant see its beginning
[14:04] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i opened leafpad with the gksudo, i pasted on one line #!/bin/bash and under in another line compiz --replace then i saved it as startcompiz in usr/bin and then i ran that command you gave me, will from now compiz load everytime i log into lxde?
[14:04] <talin> jrib: heh, i'm trying to the same install on ubuntu ;)
[14:05] <prince_jammys> ManDay: run it in screen is one way
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: no,
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: run: gksudo leafpad /usr/bin/startcompiz      and change    compiz --replace    to     compiz --replace &
[14:05] <zebastian> what does it do then ActionParsnip
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: its a script we need to call at startup
[14:06] <grawity> ManDay: What terminal are you using? gnome-terminal, xterm, Linux console, PuTTY?
[14:06] <ManDay> gnomer terminal Granis
[14:06] <ManDay> sorry, grawity
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you then need to run: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startcompiz
[14:06] <grawity> ManDay: And doesn't it have scrollbars?
[14:06] <ManDay> ermm no, maybe i disabled them
[14:06] <ManDay> ill take a look in the prefs
[14:07] <Guest80129> I have installed crunch bang Linux in virtualbox but can not get full screen to work guest addtions do nothing! im using ubuntu 9.04 as host os
[14:07] <jrib> Guest80129: try #vbox
[14:07] <talin> what is the ia32-libs package called now?
[14:07] <ManDay> grawity, yep, there it is
[14:07] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: done, how do i get compiz to load automatically every time i log onto lxde now?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you can then run: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/leafpad.desktop /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop && gksudo leafpad /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop
[14:07] <jrib> talin: same...
[14:08] <_ikke_> How come i can ping google.com, but cant connect with it with my browser (ubuntu 8.04 in a vm)
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: we are in the middle of doing it now
[14:08] <Guest8721> How do I add an initscript to boot or default. I have tried "update-rc.d net.eth0 defaults", but the script doesn't start. Any ideas?
[14:08] <talin> jrib: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs says "couldn't find package"
[14:08] <jrib> talin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ia32&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[14:09] <jrib> talin: do you know how to troubleshoot from here?
[14:09] <danpandrea> could somebody explain step by step how to make an intel 3945ABG wireless card to work with ubuntu?
[14:09] <ManDay> Does anyone know what   /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x48)  means and what'S a common cause of the resulting BOF ?
[14:09] <talin> jrib: not really
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: in the file that opens, change the line that starts Exec=   to read Exec=startcompiz
[14:09] <jrib> talin: what version of ubuntu?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: save the file and close gedit
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> not gedit, leafpad
[14:09] <talin> jrib: 9.04
[14:10] <jrib> talin: what is the output of: uname -m
[14:10] <talin> jrib: x86_64
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you now have a launcher, you can now run: cd ~/.config/autostart; ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop .
[14:11] <jrib> talin: run « sudo apt-get update » and try to install the package again.   If it still fails, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i got one line that reads Exec=leafpad %f do i change it to Exec=startcompiz
[14:11] <zebastian> ?
[14:11] <talin> jrib: that worked! thank you
[14:12] <zebastian> Exec=leafpad %f to Exec=startcompiz is that correct ActionParsnip?
[14:12] <_ikke_> How come i can ping google.com, but cant connect with it with my browser (ubuntu 8.04 in a vm)
[14:12] <Guest80129> does anyone know how to set hompage in dillo?
[14:12] <LjL> _ikke_: a proxy set on your browser maybe?
[14:13] <_ikke_> LjL: Nope, checked that
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: yes
[14:13] <prince_jammys> ManDay: script -c YourCommand  YourFile.log  seems promising.
[14:13] <ManDay> Thanks prince_jammys :)
[14:14] <prince_jammys> ManDay: assuming you have script, which i believe comes with default ubuntu.
[14:14] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: bash: cd: /home/sebastian/.config/autostart: No such file or directory
[14:14] <jco> hi, is there an alternative gnome terminal, with advanced features like silence/activity notifications, send input to multi tabs, etc...?
[14:15] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  that's the output to the command you gave me
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: cd ~/.config/autostart
[14:16] <danpandrea> could somebody explain step by step how to make an intel 3945ABG wireless card to work with ubuntu?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop .
[14:16] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: No such file or directory
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: cd ~/.config
[14:17] <vigo> zebastian: Remember the ~'s?
[14:17] <Guest80129> can anyone tell me how to set homepage in dillo browser thx
[14:17] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: ok it changed the working directory
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: lets check what we have: cd /home/sebastian/.config/
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: what is the output of pwd?
[14:18] <zamba> how do i tell ubuntu what locales to generate?
[14:18] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: /home/sebastian/.config
[14:18] <prince_jammys> ManDay: that seems to work nicely, and you can redirect script's output to /dev/null and still have the stuff captured in the log file.
[14:18] <bigcx2> hey guys, is there anyway to reload/refresh gconf settings without restart gdm?
[14:18] <MeGa> good morning
[14:19] <bigcx2> hey guys, is there anyway to reload/refresh gconf settings without restarting gdm?
[14:19] <ikonia> http://tinyurl.com/test
[14:19] <jrib> bigcx2: you shouldn't have to refresh anything.  That's the whole point of gconf
[14:19] <bigcx2> hm
[14:19] <bigcx2> well
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ok, if you run    ls     do you see a folder named autostart
[14:20] <bigcx2> jrib: i wanted to make a gconf change directly in the xml
[14:20] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  nope
[14:20] <Garp_> Question: How can I change runlevel in recent ubuntu systems? I would like to restart most stuff (doing the equivalent of a telinit 1 telinit 5). Any suggestion ? THanks.
[14:20] <bigcx2> jrib: and it didn't pick it up
[14:20] <jrib> bigcx2: why... use gconftool
[14:20] <bigcx2> jrib: for a personal package
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ok then run: mkdir ./autostart; cd autostart
[14:20] <zebastian> done
[14:20] <jrib> bigcx2: ask the gnome guys how to properly do that
[14:21] <ales> hallo
[14:21] <bigcx2> jrib: just curious, do you work for canonical?
[14:21] <jrib> bigcx2: no
[14:22] <harisund> Is there an acrobat reader plugin for Mozilla? I have that medibuntu thing but I am unable to find anything.. there used to be acroread-mozilla-plugin or something like that right?
[14:22] <bigcx2> jrib: i think i just found my answer, dh_gconf
[14:22] <jrib> bigcx2: sounds right
[14:22] <Boris> hello. I hvae a brief question, can I start Ubuntu Live CD on HP Proliant server with RAID5 to test RAID5 functionality and is it safe for data on this RAID volume? Which Live CD I should use - Ubuntu Server or Desktop?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: now yo have the folder you cxan symlink in the apps you want to autostart
[14:23] <dayo> installing moodle on hardy with this guide: http://is.gd/3iBWy it says i need to install libapache2-mod-security, but it's neither in the debian nor the ubuntu repo. what do i do?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: so you can run: ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop .
[14:23] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: can you explain what you just said
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: which?
[14:24] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: zebastian: now yo have the folder you cxan symlink in the apps you want to autostart
[14:24] <amnesia> jrib:
[14:24] <amnesia> ahh crap
[14:24] <jrib> amnesia: ?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: if you want any apps to run at startup, then that folder is used
[14:24] <amnesia> ahh cwl you're still here
[14:25] <amnesia> well apparantly it has something to do with the desktop folder
[14:25] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: so now lxde WILL run on start up with compiz
[14:25] <jrib> amnesia: cleaning apt so yeah :)
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you can create syblic links to the desktop files in /usr/share/applications. symlinks use no space and will make whatever is linked, run at statup
[14:25] <amnesia> I guess it is inheriting the permissions of its parent folder
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: did you make the link?
[14:25] <amnesia> but how that works, I havent got a clue
[14:25] <amnesia> lol is your cache that full?
[14:25] <jrib> amnesia: no, didn't you see what I told you before?  You can only delete foo/bar if you have write permissions on foo, which amnesia does
[14:25] <zebastian> ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop . ActionParsnip?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: yes
[14:26] <amnesia> what's foo?
[14:26] <amnesia> and what's bar:p
[14:26] <zebastian> ok brb let me go check that it works
[14:26] <amnesia> foobar sounds real familiar
[14:26] <jrib> amnesia: an arbitrary directory, and bar is arbitrary file inside foo
[14:26] <prince_jammys> names used for examples.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: once that link (or you can use raw .desktop files) exists, it will run at startup
[14:26] <amnesia> jrib: I've also made a new user and tried to remove it with that account, which worked
[14:26] <{g}> Hey People! How can I move+resize the partition I am using as / ? gparted wont let me when started while the partition is used. When I start Ubuntu from CD gparted is not installed. Should I use parted?
[14:26] <jrib> amnesia: pastebin please...
[14:27] <psql> Hi guy+
[14:27] <amnesia> okay, hang on
[14:28] <Cpudan80> {g}: use a gparted live cd, or download gparted from the ubuntu live cd (sudo apt-get install gparted)
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> {g}:  boot a live cd that has gparted on it and use it from there.. or install gparted  (it will install to the ram) from that live cd
[14:28] <MeGa> omg guys am trying to make IRC server since 3 days but it JUST FAIL :(
[14:28] <prince_jammys> {g}: if you have the ubuntu live CD, it has gparted in the menus as 'Partition Editor'. There is also a gparted live CD which you can download.
[14:28] <psql> can someone help me?.... I have this error in synaptic:"E: openoffice.org-wiki-publisher: il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1"
[14:28] <w0ls0n> hello all.
[14:28] <MeGa> hi
[14:28] <{g}> drunken_sorteal: ah! didnt know i can install stuff on a livecd
[14:28] <MeGa> can someone help me with this damn irc server?
[14:28] <{g}> prince_jammys: ok, rebooting now
[14:28] <{g}> Cpudan80: thanks!
[14:29] <Cpudan80> np
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: better?
[14:29] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i just logged in and i got this dialogue come up http://pastebin.com/m6d5b91e3
[14:29] <Boris> hi, does anyone know, support of RAID5 volumes are identical in Desktop and Server Ubuntu 9.04 LiveCD?
[14:29] <psql> can someone help me?.... I have this error in synaptic:"E: openoffice.org-wiki-publisher: the subprocess post-installation script gives an error code 1"
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ok,do what it says
[14:30] <w0ls0n> is there an easy way to release and renew an ip?
[14:30] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: I don't get what it says
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: leafpad ~/.gtkrc-2.0     and add the line it tells you
[14:30] <harisund> Anyone? Can ubuntu read PDFs within the Mozilla browser like I can do on Windows?
[14:30] <indus> psql: go to packages >fix broken packages
[14:30] <w0ls0n> I changed DNS on my winblows box and rebooted but it's not picking up the new DNS server
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> harisund: if you istall the acroread mozilla plugin
[14:30] <ManDay> Please have a look at my problem with slow resume from hibernation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266263
[14:30] <indus> psql: then in a terminal type sudo apt-get update
[14:30] <vigo> harisund: Yes it does.
[14:30] <genii> w0ls0n: sudo dhclient -r ethX && sudo dhclient ethX       (substitute for ethX as required)
[14:30] <harisund> ActionParsnip, what package is that? And which repository is it in?
[14:31] <w0ls0n> ah
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !find acroread
[14:31] <vigo> !PDF | harisund
[14:31] <amnesia> ahh jrib I was wrong
[14:31] <amnesia> and you were right
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> harisund: try: apt-cache search acro | grep moz
[14:31] <klo> sudo: unable to resolve host localhost.localdomain
[14:31] <harisund> ActionParsnip, That was the first thing I did. It only shows me flashblock and swfdec-mozilla
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> klo: make sure what is in /etc/hostname  matches what is in /etc/hosts    for <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> harisund: no it shouldnt as neither of those contain acro
[14:32] <harisund> ActionParsnip, I recall there being a mozilla plugin on earlier versions of Ubuntu. I have all the universe/multiverse repos enabled and even added the Medibuntu one
[14:32] <harisund> ActionParsnip, The acro is from Macromedia
[14:32] <w0ls0n> is there a way to find out if it's getting the backup dns info now?
[14:32] <{g}> hmm.. gparted shows me the extended partition with a keyring next to it and wont let me change its position. why that?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> harisund: acroread is from Adobe, not macromedia
[14:33] <w0ls0n> oh duh
[14:33] <harisund> ActionParsnip, That I know. You said "no it shouldn't as neither of those contain acro" so I said they do contrain acro from Macromedia
[14:33] <w0ls0n> resolv.conf
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> harisund: oic, my bad
[14:34] <harisund> apt-cache search acroread shows acroread-Adobe Reader and acroread-fonts - Fonts for Acrobat Reader (medibuntu package)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> harisund: do you havemedibuntu repos enabled
[14:34] <harisund> Yes I do
[14:34] <harisund> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 <-- I used this page
[14:34] <ManDay> Does anyone here have ROOT installedß
[14:34] <ManDay> ?
[14:34] <Boris> does anyone here tried ubuntu on HP Proliant server?
[14:34] <amnesia> jrib: how am I exactly able to manage this foobar app/lib(?)
[14:35] <grawity> ManDay: What do you mean by "ROOT"? The superuser account?
[14:35] <indus> ManDay: root user?
[14:35] <ManDay> no, the program
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: root isnt a program, its an account
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: got a link?
[14:35] <indus> !info root
[14:35] <ManDay> root.cern.ch
[14:35] <harisund> ActionParsnip, That page I linked shows installation of acroread-plugins and the mozilla plugin for pre-8.04 families of Ubuntu, not Jaunty
[14:35] <ManDay> !info root-system
[14:35] <jrib> amnesia: I'm not sure what you want to do.  The behavior you described is normal.  What do you want to change?
[14:35] <amnesia> jrib: I'm only working on this so I know how it works
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: wow suprised they called it that
[14:36] <[A]KangB> hi everyone
[14:36] <jrib> amnesia: k, what aren't you sure about?
[14:36] <BuFF> hi, what is the path to place vim's color schemes ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> harisund: then you'll need a paa for jaunty for the mozilla plugin for acroread
[14:36] <jrib> BuFF: ~/.vim/colors/ works
[14:36] <harisund> ActionParsnip, sorry but what's a paa?
[14:36] <BuFF> jrib, thanks
[14:36] <indus> !ppa
[14:37] <rich_dnb> each time i boot ubuntu i have to readd my samba printer on my windows pc to print to it, why is that?
[14:37] <amnesia> jrib: well what is this foo/bar thing, wikipedia tells me stuff about the us army fubar
[14:37] <amnesia> :p
[14:37] <harisund> hmm ok I will try to find more information thanks . I just don't want Firefox telling me "Do you want to download this PDF or open it with Evince" every single time I click on a PDF link
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> harisund: typo, sorry
[14:37] <andrewz__> whats a good dictionary program, offline with definitions and a gui
[14:37] <[A]KangB> how can i get a vHost on Freenode!?
[14:37] <indus> harisund: adobe reader mozilla plugin
[14:37] <IdleOne> !cloak > [A]KangB
[14:38] <indus> ActionParsnip: what is harisund looking for?
[14:38] <[A]KangB> thanks IdleOne
[14:38] <harisund> indus is there a package of that name?
[14:38] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  it just occured to me, sometimes when i am watching a movie or an avi video, i turn compiz off, how would i go about doing that?
[14:38] <jrib> amnesia: foo and bar are just used as generic names for variables, like "x" and "y" in math
[14:38] <indus> harisund: well, its now called adobe reader
[14:38] <amnesia> ahh okay
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: could make a script to turn off compiz and run the program then start compiz up when its done
[14:39] <amnesia> so basically you're sayin I am not in "some file"?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: that sort of messing around is 1 reason why i detest compiz
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: its just not worth it
[14:39] <indus> harisund: cant you find it from synaptic?
[14:40] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: but to do it manually
[14:40] <zebastian> how would i go about it
[14:40] <jrib> amnesia: when I said foo/bar I could have said Desktop/ateam-movie or jrib/Desktop or any other directory with something inside of it.  I was just trying to be generic
[14:40] <harisund> indus there is "adobe reader" yes but no mozilla plugin
[14:40] <amnesia> ahh okay sorry
[14:40] <indus> harisund: hmm mozilla plugin for what
[14:40] <harisund> For the adobe reader
[14:41] <amnesia> so the permissions for removing are arranged differently?
[14:41] <indus> harisund: to do what
[14:41] <mgv1> hello, i want to ask. why don't they do some installations in ubuntu more simple? like the tor installation which i havn't succeed with
[14:41] <indus> harisund: i know what but i still want to ask
[14:41] <harisund> indus to see PDFs within my browser
[14:41] <shomon> hi, I've got a 54m wireless card, I plugged it in and nothing is showing up on ubuntu hardy. Is there anything I need to do to make it work?
[14:41] <Dunge> Anyone can explain me the difference between /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you can use the compiz control app to switch between
[14:41] <indus> harisund: yes thats a  firefox plugin
[14:41] <andrewz__> can i download a offline copy of gnome-dictionary somehow?
[14:41] <Total_Oblivion> hello! How can I uninstall ubuntu from my PC?  have dual boot
[14:41] <indus> harisund: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7
[14:42] <indus> is this what you want
[14:42] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: the what?
[14:42] <Nophiq> Hi all, How can I avoid backup files like "myfile.txt~"?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: theres an app you can run to switch between window managers. Iforget its name
[14:42] <harisund> indus yes that takes me to Adobes' website directly ..
[14:42] <Halitech> Total_Oblivion, use your windows install cd to repair the MBR then format the ubuntu partitions using windows
[14:42] <jrib> amnesia: the permissions on a directory have a different meaning than those on a file
[14:42] <Boris> will I have access to RAID5 volume right after start of Ubuntu livecd? is it safe for raid5 volume data?
[14:43] <SharpRain> is gedit good?
[14:43] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: otherwise how would you do it on the terminal? to turn compiz off and on
[14:43] <amnesia> jrib: I know
[14:43] <indus> harisund: strange
[14:43] <cursive> after a fresh install of ubuntu, how do I get computer, documents, trash etc. icons on my desktop?
[14:43] <harisund> indus I guess i will have to try that. It's just that I am afraid to download anything from the web and install it myself (like I do in Windows) since then if I ask for any support on the forums or IRC I am simply yelled at for not using the repositoies
[14:43] <indus> harisund: wait 2 sec
[14:43] <jrib> amnesia: and as you notice, write permissions for a directory determine whether a file can be removed and/or renamed
[14:43] <indus> harisund: ya that reader is what you looking for i believe
[14:43] <cursive> just moved from ubuntu from vista :3
[14:43] <amnesia> jrib: but remove doesnt fall under read,write,execure right?
[14:43] <thiebaude> SharpRain, i use it
[14:43] <jrib> amnesia: it falls under "write for parent directory"
[14:43] <harisund> indus It's as though if I don't use the repositories for something I am voiding my Ubuntu warranty haha ..ok I will try it the manual way
[14:43] <indus> harisund: it then integrates with browser too so u can view pdf
[14:43] <amnesia> hm okay
[14:44] <harisund> indus All right will give it a try
[14:44] <indus> harisund: wait
[14:44] <indus> harisund: download from ubuntu repo enable the partner repository
[14:44] <harisund> indus,  I have enabled the partner repo
[14:44] <cursive> please answer me
[14:44] <harisund> indus: What's the name of the package there?
[14:44] <gb__> hiya all
[14:44] <indus> harisund: checking wait 1 wsec
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: not sure, never ran compiz in lxde
[14:45] <thiebaude> cursive, what is your question?
[14:45] <jrib> amnesia: if you're interested in this sort of stuff, you may be interested in learning more about how the filesystem works.  Look up what inodes work.  I think that will also give you a better understanding for your current question
[14:45] <cursive> after a fresh install of ubuntu, how do I get computer, documents, trash etc. icons on my desktop?
[14:45] <cursive> just moved from ubuntu from vista :3
[14:45] <jrib> s/what/how
[14:45] <cursive> to ubuntu from vista*
[14:45] <gb__> does anyone here have pcchip p29g model?
[14:45] <thiebaude> cursive, i drag and drop them to the desktop
[14:45] <shomon> is there a how to for setting up dual monitors in ubuntu?
[14:45] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: well it should be replace for....what's lxde's file manager?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: openbox --replace
[14:45] <mpedraza> hellooooooooooooooooooooooo
[14:45] <cursive> ah!
[14:46] <_ikke_> cursive: right click on desktop and then create launcher
[14:46] <thiebaude> cursive, i cant drag and drop the places icon
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: lxde's file manager default is thunar but you can use nautilus if you like, or rox, konqueror, dolphin
[14:46] <cursive> how do you get trash on desktop?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: your choice
[14:46] <indus> harisund: aah ok seems not availabele for repos
[14:46] <thiebaude> !launcher
[14:46] <indus> harisund: medibuntu i tried?
[14:46] <jrib> !icons | cursive
[14:46] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: what's the thingy you add to a command so you can close the terminal without it closing the program you opened through the terminal?
[14:46] <cursive> ok
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: &
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: if you use alt+f2 you dont need that
[14:47] <zebastian> crap, i closed the terminal
[14:47] <noelferreira> how can i see the encoding of a file?
[14:47] <_ikke_> zebastian: its and &
[14:47] <_ikke_> an*
[14:47] <harisund> indus: I have both medibuntu and partner repos enabled, and universe/multiverse and everything. acroread is available, but I want to read those documents iwthin my browser and not have to download them seperately into the desktop and then open with evince
[14:47] <zebastian> and now i have no top bars
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ye, use alt+f2 and you dont have that
[14:47] <jrib> zebastian: & disown, or use nohup, or use screen
[14:47] <_ikke_> argh, too late
[14:47] <genii> noelferreira: file <filename>    gives some info
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: alt+f2, openbox --replace
[14:47] <indus> harisund: no that install does it
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: use alt+f2 for stuff like that, less problems
[14:47] <indus> harisund: it will ask for enable browser plugin
[14:47] <harisund> Interesting, I will give it a try again hang on
[14:48] <indus> harisund: i downloaded from website so i know that works
[14:48] <indus> harisund: now i dont know
[14:48] <indus> harisund: try
[14:48] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: how do you get out of alt f2
[14:48] <noelferreira>  Non-ISO extended-ASCII text
[14:48] <noelferreira>  genni is the endoing extended-ASCII in this case?
[14:48] <indus> harisund: or just install from adobe to save the hassles
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: when you run the command it will vanish, or you can press alt+f4 to close it
[14:49] <harisund> indus: Will do man :) Thank you
[14:49] <cursive> also
[14:49] <noelferreira> genni extended-ACCII is a encoding type. that's because iconv doesn't recognise it.
[14:49] <cursive> how do I set VLC to the default media player?
[14:50] <noelferreira> gennii extended-ACCII is a encoding type. that's because iconv doesn't recognise it.
[14:50] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i keep doing alt f2 and nothng happens
[14:50] <noelferreira> genii extended-ACCII is a encoding type. that's because iconv doesn't recognise it.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: if you have compiz enabled it doesnt like lxdes launcher thingy
[14:51] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i can see why you would hate compiz
[14:51] <bro> zebastian, hi.
[14:51] <mgv1> i want to ask. why don't they do some installations in ubuntu more simple? like the tor installation which i havn't succeed with
[14:51] <genii> noelferreira: It's probably then iso 8859
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: it just stops a whole load of good stuff run. and for what, some crappy animations. per-lease
[14:51] <zebastian> bro: hi, you won't guess what i did in the end
[14:51] <bro> zebastian, reinstalled ubuntu?
[14:51] <cursive> how do I set VLC to the default media player in ubuntu? so when I open up my songs, it opens it in that, instead of that movie player
[14:52] <zebastian> bro: installed hardy, it works perfectly
[14:52] <Halitech> cursive, right click the media file you want to open with vlc, select properties and then change the default app
[14:52] <ericka> ola
[14:52] <cursive> oke
[14:52] <harisund> indus Thank you again :)
[14:52] <LiCeT> hi all
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> cursive: right click an mp3 or whatever -> open with then select openwith other app, then tell the OS to remember the option
[14:53] <noelferreira> genii and how can i check that. because there's diffetent types of iso and i need to convert it to utf-8 and o need the correct actual code tu use with iconv
[14:53] <arand> cursive: What I know you can do is go into properties-openwith for specific files (>>filetypes)
[14:53] <bro> zebastian, tell me, you do have tearing [no-vsync] in movies and on desktop [while moving windows around], in hardy?
[14:53] <LiCeT> got a new webcam "communicate stx"
[14:53] <LiCeT> and just get a black screen
[14:54] <arvind_khadri> LiCeT, cheese?
[14:54] <zebastian> bro: what does that mean? tearing?
[14:54] <LiCeT> stops directly after starting cam
[14:54] <loneone> can someone help me to install huawei 3g usb stick?
[14:54] <chingus> Er I need help, is this the right place?
[14:55] <IdleOne> chingus: depends
[14:55] <chingus> er k thanks
[14:55] <IdleOne> ask your next question