[07:52] <chickboiec> so what do u suggest?
[07:52] <omp> i just get wine, then use winesetuptk to configure it
[07:52] <Dr_willis> wine /foo/sol.exe
[07:52] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: No, no, no. That's bottleutils.deb
[07:52] <Dr_willis> what mor tools do ya need/
[07:52] <chickboiec> tnx
[07:52] <chickboiec> winesetuptk
[07:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:53] <omp> winetools is just a way of installing software in wine (probably made for noobs)
[07:53] <solidgroove> i did a ubuntu update and now I have no text in the buttons on installing of half-life2 with cedega
[07:54] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[07:54] <chickboiec> cedega aint free right\?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> not really :P
[07:54] <chickboiec> cvs?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> cedega-cvs is free
[07:54] <solidgroove> not cvs
[07:54] <chickboiec> cdga-cvs
[07:54] <Dr_willis> its worht supporting
[07:54] <Dr_willis> its cheap
[07:54] <K-Bay> Hmm... for some hellish reason after upgrading to Breezy, my sawfish has stopped displaying window titles. Moroever, xterm can't get right fonts running saying: unable to open font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-2", trying "fixed"....
[07:54] <solidgroove> but I dont have a membership to get a new version
[07:54] <solidgroove> and I have no text now I cant read the buttons
[07:54] <sproingie> argh.  has anyone successfully installed IE under wine cvs?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> sproingie,  Blasphmy!
[07:55] <durt> what are you smoking sproingie?
[07:55] <sproingie> believe it or not some people use wine
[07:55] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:56] <Dr_willis> belive it or not. :P not everyone needs IE.
[07:56] <sproingie> i'm entirely too frustrated to listen to the highly novel notions of people that might actually hate windows, unbelievable as that might be
[07:56] <Dr_willis> i use wine to forget.....
[07:56] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:56] <Dr_willis> i dont hate windows.  Also it's ok to install IE in wine as long as you do it because another app won't install without it. If you stall IE because you want to browse with it in wine that's sacrelige.
[07:56] <sproingie> durt: reasonable question.  so i can use all of picasa under wine
[07:56] <derek[] > does the apt-get work in Ubuntu?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> derek[] ,  errr yes.
[07:57] <chickboiec> yes
[07:57] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:57] <sproingie> durt: attempting to install the mozilla control is a complete loss.  i thought IE might be installable
[07:57] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Have you had a look at the ubuntu pages?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> ive had great luck with the mozilla controll feature and cedega
[07:57] <K-Bay> Heck I hate when fonts get messed on X ;-) It gets worse than Windows :P
[07:57] <sproingie> but apparently it only installs with special tools on specific versions released under the sign of mars on odd numbered thursdays
[07:58] <durt> theres probably some linux alternative to picasa
[07:58] <derek[] > BlueEagle, ubuntu's website?
[07:58] <chickboiec> blue, do u use wine to play nt games?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> and the eula has to be written goats blood also sproingie  dont forget
[07:58] <sproingie> durt: digikam, but frankly its editing controls suck
[07:58] <_rb_> is there actually a problem with the nvidia cards and 5.04 ?
[07:58] <derek[] > K-Bay, :/
[07:58] <jtan325> hmmmm
[07:59] <jtan325> i added hoary backports as specified in UbuntuBackports on the wiki
[07:59] <jtan325> (i'm using breezy)
[07:59] <silverton> How do I force eject a CD?
[07:59] <durt> what about gofoto, sproingie?
[07:59] <jtan325> but sun-jre-1.5 and azureus don't seem to be around
[07:59] <silverton> dennis@ghost:~$ eject /dev/hdc
[07:59] <silverton> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[07:59] <sproingie> picasa has the "i'm feeling lucky" normalizing button, and when that's no good, it has backlight and neutral color detector
[07:59] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Yes. Browse stuff like documentation and how-tos and such.
[07:59] <derek[] > k
[07:59] <NiLz> hi
[07:59] <sproingie> absolutely NOTHING like that in any linux prog i've seen
[07:59] <NiLz> where's rc.local?
[08:00] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Very easy way to get answer to what you want to know. :)
[08:00] <florg> wow. everything perfect : ) thanks again
[08:00] <durt> sproingie, or f-spot
[08:00] <sproingie> guess i can try those.  fspot wasnt so good last i looked at it
[08:00] <sproingie> but that was a while ago
[08:01] <derek[] > :)
[08:01] <durt> i havent used any of them, so dont listen to me
[08:01] <derek[] > man.. I'm still not able to decide whether to go for debian or ubuntu
[08:02] <derek[] > I just don't want unnecessary stuff to install on my disk
[08:02] <derek[] > like KDE
[08:02] <derek[] > unnecessary and huge
[08:02] <uboontoo> Hey guys can someone tell me how to change the default ubuntu splash screen into one i just downloaded from gnome-look.org
[08:02] <tritium> derek[] , kde is not installed by default
[08:02] <derek[] > k tritium
[08:03] <jtan325> Kyral, how should i use the hoary backports?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> i just insalle kde :P
[08:03] <Dr_willis> lol
[08:03] <jtan325> i edited /etc/apt/source.list
[08:03] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Are you on dialup or very short for time?
[08:03] <derek[] > but it has gnome though?
[08:03] <jtan325> and did the update
[08:03] <jtan325> but i don't see any jre
[08:03] <derek[] > BlueEagle,  no :)
[08:03] <tritium> yes, derek[]
[08:03] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Then try both and make up your own mind please.
[08:03] <derek[] > BlueEagle, well.. I'm on ADSL.. but my monthly bandwidth is limited to 1 GB
[08:04] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Well ubuntu ships CDs to you for free.
[08:04] <derek[] > BlueEagle, I've ordered them.. but they're taking time
[08:04] <silverton> :O  monthly bandwidth liumit???
[08:04] <silverton> I'd kill myself
[08:04] <sproingie> gofoto looks extremely primitive.  maybe f-stop
[08:04] <finite> BlueEagle, not asof right now they don't ship them
[08:04] <finite> no more til breezy, right?
[08:04] <derek[] > silverton, :/
[08:04] <synd> anyone wanna walk me thru mounting an NFS share?
[08:04] <BlueEagle> finite: That should have been noted on the site tbh.
[08:04] <sproingie> er fspot
[08:05] <silverton> derek[] , :O
[08:05] <derek[away] > brb
[08:05] <BlueEagle> synd: mounting or sharing?
[08:05] <tritium> silverton, that sounds like an addiction ;0
[08:05] <uboontoo> hey Synd, http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[08:05] <synd> BlueEagle: i need to mount a share
[08:05] <durt> my home directory is such a mess...
[08:05] <sproingie> tch.  nope, no decent editing in fspot either
[08:06] <omp> if i install ubuntu, will i be able to stop gdm from starting at boot? ( i want to have a text-based login and startx manually )
[08:06] <silverton> tritium, I'm just a downloading junkie
[08:06] <tritium> :)
[08:06] <sproingie> maybe i'll have better luck with cedega cvs instead of wine cvs
[08:06] <finite> question: is there an easy guide to setting up a network login system, such that my home directory is mounted over nfs? client and server can both be ubuntu
[08:06] <silverton> bittorrent is my friend :)
[08:06] <durt> sproingie: ok, get IE then - but why not edit with the gimp
[08:06] <finite> and ideally the auth would be done over the network too, with ldap unless there is something better
[08:07] <n00blar> nite everyone
[08:07] <tritium> finite, did you search the wiki?
[08:07] <sproingie> durt: it's a matter of doing trivial edits like rotate, redeye, fill light, with a responsive interface
[08:07] <sproingie> durt: i'm addicted to picasa on windows.  the alternative is for me to reboot to windows
[08:07] <finite> i found an ldap-auth guide but it skims over how the home directory is specified
[08:07] <synd> uboontoo: i said NFS, not NTFS
[08:08] <sproingie> durt: gimp is not suited for flipping between edit and browse with hundreds of photos
[08:08] <durt> there must be some good photo app out there
[08:08] <uboontoo> Synd, sorry misread ya
[08:08] <ohphracku> what if any services are enabled by default in the server installation?
[08:09] <sproingie> durt: i'm still waiting for one on linux
[08:09] <Turicas> how i can play more than 1 sound? eg: listening music in xmms while gaim plays a sound (msg received, etc..)
[08:09] <durt> sproingie, so picasa doesnt work with mozilla or opera?
[08:09] <uboontoo> I am browsing the /usr/share/pixmaps/splash folder and i see that ubuntu comes with alot of different splash images to use, how do i switch between them?
[08:10] <sproingie> durt: it embeds IE.  it's supposed to work with the mozilla activex control too, but wine just locks up when it tries to download it, and installing it manually fails
[08:10] <tritium> uboontoo, that's either an FAQ, or on the wiki
[08:10] <NiLz> how come there's no rc.local in ubuntu?
[08:10] <BlueEagle> synd: installed nfs-common?
[08:10] <NiLz> is there any other file used for the same purpouse?
[08:10] <uboontoo> well i looked there and couldnt find it so can someone just help me real fast if anyone knows?
[08:11] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[08:11] <robotgeek> NiLz: take a look at "man update-rc.d"
[08:11] <sproingie> edu---: they probably work under wine
[08:11] <edu---> can anybody help me
[08:12] <haffe> The onlye thing I can think of is cedega.
[08:12] <durt> you must be asian - ragnarok...
[08:12] <NiLz> robotgeek: too complicated :(
[08:13] <robotgeek> NiLz: all you need to do is copy your script to /etc/init.d and do a sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults
[08:13] <tritium> NiLz, if you prefer, edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, then
[08:16] <tritium> But, it's preferable to do as robotgeek suggests, Nakkel
[08:16] <tritium> NiLz,
[08:16] <haffe> Sigh.
[08:17] <haffe> Your a student if you have to read a book on complex analysis on Saturday morning.
[08:17] <tritium> You're even
[08:18] <durt> haffe what the hell is that?
[08:18] <tritium> haffe, Rudin?
[08:19] <chickboiec> hi
[08:19] <chickboiec> need help
[08:19] <derek[] > back
[08:19] <chickboiec> im trying to install freetype2 now
[08:19] <chickboiec> but i dont have a package...
[08:19] <chickboiec> it's just a zip file
[08:19] <haffe> tritium: Saff/Snider
[08:19] <chickboiec> with lots of files
[08:20] <tritium> haffe, ah, okay
[08:20] <haffe> durt: It's calculus with complex numbers.
[08:20] <chickboiec> do i need a make install?
[08:20] <chickboiec> please help
[08:20] <chickboiec> or do u have a better idea
[08:20] <tritium> chickboiec, there are freetype packages.  Which do you need?
[08:20] <chickboiec> the one for cedega
[08:20] <omp> is it really worth spending 4 hours downloading the breezy livecd...? =/
[08:20] <chickboiec> any links?
[08:20] <chickboiec> deb ubuntu
[08:21] <chickboiec> tritium, tnx for ur reply
[08:21] <tritium> !info libfreetype6
[08:21] <ubotu> libfreetype6: (FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.1.7-2.3 (hoary), Packaged size: 354 kB, Installed size: 692 kB
[08:21] <chickboiec> wr can i get that
[08:21] <chickboiec> synaptic doesnt show freetype
[08:21] <durt> haffe: um... nasty
[08:21] <chickboiec> lib is ok?
[08:22] <chickboiec> i want to make sure all dependencies are met
[08:22] <chickboiec> before i install cedega
[08:22] <tritium> chickboiec, it's in the main repo.  just apt-get install it
[08:22] <chickboiec> ok
[08:22] <chickboiec> waht is the site?
[08:22] <nalioth> tritium: ya sneaky fella
[08:23] <chickboiec> deb http//.....
[08:23] <tritium> hey nalioth.  sneaky hobbitses?
[08:23] <chickboiec> or just typ apt-get
[08:23] <tritium> chickboiec, I would assume your sources.list is already setup?
[08:24] <nalioth> tritium: sneaky-hobbitses is my middle name
[08:24] <chickboiec> just a fresh install...
[08:24] <tritium> chickboiec, if that's the case, you can simply "sudo apt-get (or aptitude) install libfreetype6"
[08:24] <chickboiec> i need the rep
[08:24] <chickboiec> tnx
[08:25] <chickboiec> tnx
[08:25] <tritium> chickboiec, even a fresh install should have the main repo listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <tritium> please double check
[08:25] <chickboiec> i dont need freetype2 anymore? i have libfreetype6 installed
[08:25] <tritium> nalioth, :)
[08:25] <chickboiec> tnx
[08:25] <chickboiec> i just wana make sure checklist is met
[08:25] <tritium> chickboiec, I don't know what cedega requires
[08:25] <chickboiec> it's on their site
[08:26] <chickboiec> tot freetype2 is diff from libfre..
[08:26] <tritium> chickboiec, try apt-cache search freetype2, then
[08:27] <tritium> chickboiec, in breezy, it's superseded by libttf2
[08:27] <Echelon-H> hi
[08:27] <Echelon-H> is there a torrent client where i can change the ports?
[08:27] <chickboiec> ok
[08:27] <derek[] > BlueEagle, wassup?
[08:28] <nalioth> Echelon-H: you can change it on all clients
[08:28] <BlueEagle> derek[] : working out mount syntax for nfs
[08:28] <Echelon-H> couldn't figure it out on gnome-bittorent
[08:29] <BlueEagle> synd: sudo mount -t nfs servername:/path/to/share/ /path/to/local/mountpoint
[08:29] <nalioth> Echelon-H: have a party http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[08:29] <tritium> chickboiec, packages.ubuntu.com might be useful to you too
[08:29] <BlueEagle> synd: /path/to/share is defined in /etc/exports of the server.
[08:30] <synd> BlueEagle: alright, thanks
[08:30] <synd> BlueEagle: do i have to create a mount point first?
[08:32] <jakelo> I'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget.  Anyone know how I would resolve this?
[08:33] <Echelon-H> nalioth, i get errors when im trying to use minport maxport
[08:34] <BlueEagle> synd: always
[08:35] <ngranado> hello all
[08:35] <robotgeek> ngranado: hi
[08:36] <ngranado> how do I reconfigure my xserver config again?
[08:36] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:36] <robotgeek> ngranado: do that
[08:36] <derek_> hi
[08:36] <robotgeek> tritium: too fast
[08:36] <tritium> robotgeek, :)
[08:36] <ngranado> tritium: thanks
[08:36] <GullyFoyle> reconfigure - again... redundant
[08:36] <Strife> hey, has anyone used dcgui at all?
[08:36] <tritium> no problem, ngranado
[08:36] <derek_> is there a way to not install gnome during ubuntu installation?
[08:37] <tritium> derek_, server install
[08:37] <derek_> and install some other windowing environment?
[08:37] <Strife> but gnome is awesome!
[08:37] <Strife> heh
[08:37] <tritium> install win. env. of your choice after server install
[08:37] <Strife> I remember gnome from back in the 1.x days
[08:37] <Strife> man was that ugly
[08:37] <finite> derek[] , http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[08:38] <GullyFoyle> i prefer a speedy wm like fluxbox
[08:38] <Strife> it's come a long way since then
[08:38] <Strife> but I digress
[08:38] <derek_> GullyFoyle, me too
[08:38] <ngranado> it says xserver-xorg is broken or not really installed
[08:38] <Strife> I downloaded dc_gui a while ago
[08:38] <Strife> and I have no idea how to actually find/connect to hubs
[08:38] <derek_> brb
[08:38] <Strife> the lack of documentation certainly doesn't help
[08:39] <robotgeek> ngranado: are u on warty?
[08:39] <ngranado> no
[08:39] <ngranado> breezy
[08:39] <ngranado> nm I think i got it
[08:39] <ngranado> i just did a apt-get -f install
[08:40] <haffe> When do you thing X11R7 will be released?
[08:40] <Echelon-H> can anyone recommand on a good BT client?
[08:41] <haffe> btdownloadcurses is quite popular.
[08:41] <oolon> azureus is java based
[08:41] <robotgeek> Echelon-H: same , with screen
[08:41] <ngranado> Echelon-H: Bit Torrent or bluetooth?
[08:42] <ngranado> Echelon-H: i guess since there's not bluetooth clients
[08:42] <ngranado> that bit torrent is what you are asking about
[08:42] <finite> Azureus has cool graphics but the Gnome client that is preinstalled with hoary works just as well
[08:42] <apsync> hi, I have 1 partition on my HD, can I install ubuntu + keep windows on 1 partition ?
[08:42] <Strife> apsync: of course
[08:42] <apsync> ah, Ok
[08:42] <jtan325> ngranado, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:43] <Strife> so no one has used dc_gui?
[08:43] <jtan325> breezy rocks the socks
[08:43] <solidgroove> anyone use cedega and after updating ubuntu cedega doesnt display fonts on buttons on installations in cedega
[08:43] <hondje> someone should add an http:// before the breezy upgrade link in the topic
[08:43] <chavo> solidgroove, cedega works fine here
[08:43] <GullyFoyle> yeah i had probs with X til i realized i had to disable that kernel frmebuffer crap
[08:43] <Strife> jtan325: not when I tried to upgrade to it a couple of months ago :P
[08:44] <jtan325> hehe
[08:44] <Strife> I'm (mostly) satisfied with simply using backports for now
[08:44] <jtan325> i'm fresh off the preview install
[08:44] <Strife> there are a few other annoyances
[08:44] <solidgroove> chavo, I think im missing a library or something, can I send you a screenshot what it looks like
[08:44] <Strife> like not being able to compile NetworkManager
[08:44] <Strife> but I can wait till Breezy officially comes out
[08:44] <tritium> better, hondje ?
[08:44] <hondje> tritium: Much, thanks :)
[08:44] <chavo> solidgroove, sure
[08:44] <tritium> :)
[08:44] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: I would guess that you're missing a font.
[08:44] <user_> bob2, you there?
[08:45] <hondje> any gotchas with breezy, or is it safe for an experienced user?
[08:45] <solidgroove> I have tahoma installed in .transgaming_local/Fonts
[08:45] <chavo> solidgroove, I don't think my firewall will let me dcc
[08:45] <user_> bob2, you there? i need help
[08:45] <khermans> is there anything like ObjectDock in Linux?
[08:45] <user_> anyone?
[08:45] <Strife> anyone used skippy or skippy-xd at all>?
[08:45] <tritium> user_, please ask the channel
[08:45] <jtan325> user_, just ask
[08:45] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: did you try to got trough the fonts section of ubuntuguide.com?
[08:45] <Echelon-H> how can I dir only files starting with the letter b?
[08:45] <chavo> khermans, there are some similar apps
[08:45] <robotgeek> khermans: what's objecy doc?
[08:46] <Strife> because it seems that skippy-xd is ungodly slow
[08:46] <user_> ok...
[08:46] <GullyFoyle> hey any of you geeks prefer onboard sound or a card? i've heard a card works better and if you have one just disable the onboard sound on yer mobo.
[08:46] <khermans> chavo, like?
[08:46] <robotgeek> khermans: what's objectdock?
[08:46] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: Something like sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts or sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11?
[08:46] <Strife> GullyFoyle: I'm all about the SBLive
[08:46] <khermans> robotgeek, mimics the OS X hidden toolbar with icons for starting programs
[08:46] <Strife> years old, but still awesome
[08:46] <Strife> WAY outperforms my laptop's builtin sound
[08:46] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts might help.
[08:46] <robotgeek> khermans: there's the similiar bar in gdesklets, i think
[08:46] <Strife> hondje: my laptop has weird issues... like if I'm playing music, all other sounds play delayed
[08:47] <khermans> robotgeek, yeah but that doesnt actually seem to be dockable
[08:47] <user_> i already change the root password but when i trty to log in with the root account ubuntu says "admin can't login here..."
[08:47] <GullyFoyle> Strife: I have an Sb but i dont use it cuz of the AC97 on my mobo. ya think i should pop it in?
[08:47] <hondje> Strife: hrm...I get something 'like' that, with xine and tvout on my nv card
[08:47] <khermans> it only puts the stuff on the desktop background
[08:47] <robotgeek> khermans: hmm, no idea..don't use it
[08:47] <hondje> the audio gets out of sync, and I have to pause it to resync it
[08:47] <user_> any idea why?
[08:47] <tritium> user_, gdm?
[08:47] <BlueEagle> user_: Do you really _have_to_ log in as root?
[08:47] <khermans> so there is no dockable Linux app launcher like ObjectDock?
[08:47] <chavo> khermans, there's kxdocker, engage and some themes for superkaramba or gDesklets
[08:47] <Madpilot> user_: have you read wikie.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?
[08:47] <robotgeek> hondje: rhythmbox?
[08:47] <Madpilot> *wiki.ubuntu.com/etc, sorry
[08:47] <hondje> robotgeek: xine
[08:48] <Strife> GullyFoyle: if you aren't using the SBLive for anything else... yes
[08:48] <robotgeek> hondje: i meant, do u get that on rhythmbox too?
[08:48] <Strife> GullyFoyle: but only because I <3 SBLive
[08:48] <tritium> user_, if you're referring to gdm login, you have to configure it to allow root logins
[08:48] <chavo> khermans, I never tried them though, the dock is a UI disaster
[08:48] <hondje> robotgeek: I don't know how I'd check that, since there's no pictures for it to sync against
[08:48] <khermans> chavo, kxdocker seems to be only kde
[08:49] <chavo> khermans, are you looking for something with icon zooming, like OSX?
[08:49] <khermans> id rather not grab the kdelibs if i dont have to
[08:49] <khermans> yeah
[08:49] <chavo> yuck
[08:49] <robotgeek> hondje: sorry, kinda misunderstood. thanks
[08:49] <user_> ya, i need to setup a workgroup ("kindalike the MS")
[08:49] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: Did I ask to get a screenie from you?
[08:49] <khermans> why?
[08:49] <hondje> :)
[08:49] <chavo> I don't know of any others
[08:49] <user_> the link seems to be dead...
[08:49] <khermans> chavo, i think that looks pretty good - but kde, eww
[08:49] <solidgroove> BlueEagle, no
[08:49] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: Then why are you sending one to me?
[08:50] <GullyFoyle> i have a cool launcher on my my flux setup on my yoper partition but i forget what it's called. you mouse over it and it extrudes any number of little squares with configurable icons, works great
[08:50] <Madpilot> user_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo - typo in the first one...
[08:50] <robotgeek> this seems like something out of pulp fiction :)
[08:50] <louisjohn> are u kdding me
[08:50] <louisjohn> 22/m/fl
[08:50] <louisjohn> wassup
[08:50] <louisjohn> bb
[08:50] <louisjohn> coffee
[08:50] <robotgeek> louisjohn: we don't do that here in #ubuntu
[08:51] <ohphracku> lol
[08:51] <robertbb> Anyone here tried the banshee music player for gnome?
[08:51] <chavo> hehe
[08:51] <BlueEagle> Someone should tell louisjohn that he's tying in the wrong window.
[08:51] <BlueEagle> ...or maybe not.
[08:51] <Strife> so nobody has used dc_gui?
[08:51] <robotgeek> louisjohn: use #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <Strife> because I'm finding it really ridiculous that I have no idea how to even get it to list hubs, let alone actually connect to anything
[08:51] <Madpilot> !info dc_gui
[08:51] <jtan325> hehe i gave up on dc++ a long time ago
[08:51] <jtan325> i just use bittorrent
[08:52] <user_> another question: i can ping another pc in my LAN but the network server only shows the WIndows Network
[08:52] <Strife> jtan325: pssht, when I'm on campus with the lappy I'm better off using DC
[08:52] <BlueEagle> after 070105 downloading copyrighted music became illegal here.
[08:52] <Strife> user_: with the `ping' command
[08:52] <jakelo> jtan325, where are you getting your torrents from?
[08:52] <BlueEagle> 050701
[08:52] <Strife> BlueEagle: who said anything about downloading music?
[08:52] <jtan325> yea
[08:52] <jtan325> i download azureus updates via torrents
[08:53] <jtan325> or anime
[08:53] <BlueEagle> strife: Well, downloading programs has been illegal here for years. :p
[08:53] <Strife> believe it or not, I actually download things that are legal
[08:53] <nalioth> finding torrents can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:53] <BlueEagle> strife: Movies also became illegal to download with the new law tbh.
[08:53] <Strife> BlueEagle: actually, downloading free, open source programs is perfectly 100% legal
[08:53] <user_> no, from the Places-->Network Servers
[08:53] <GullyFoyle> i just "borrow" a digital version of the song for evaluation purposes
[08:53] <Ice9> is there a way to have gaim auto-accept file transfers?
[08:54] <tritium> GullyFoyle, not here, please
[08:54] <GullyFoyle> what's wrong with that?
[08:54] <Strife> BlueEagle: (A) I'm not downloading movies, (B) It was always illegal to pirate, and (C) There wasn't a `new law,' but rather a Supreme Court case that says that software companies may be held liable for what their users do with the software
[08:54] <nalioth> p2p/torrent talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:54] <jakelo> I'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget.  Anyone know how I would resolve this?
[08:54] <derek_> does anyone know if its possible to install the iso directly off the hdd?
[08:54] <BlueEagle> strife: It was not illegal to d/l copyrighted music before 050701. Then again I'm in Norway.
[08:54] <derek_> my cd writer isn't working
[08:54] <nalioth> derek_: possible but not easy
[08:54] <hondje> derek_: yeah, but it's a PITA
[08:55] <Strife> BlueEagle: Norway. Check.
[08:55] <derek_> :/
[08:55] <BlueEagle> derek_: What is wrong with it?
[08:55] <derek_> it doesn't burn
[08:55] <GullyFoyle> can gun companies be held liable for waht people do with guns?
[08:55] <derek_> it doesn't read
[08:55] <BlueEagle> derek_: Did you check the power supply?
[08:55] <derek_> its borked
[08:55] <Strife> BlueEagle: I apologize for my American everyone's-in-the-US attitude
[08:55] <nalioth> GullyFoyle: -offtopic, please
[08:55] <derek_> lol sure
[08:55] <derek_> the tray opens
[08:55] <robotgeek> GullyFoyle,Strife,BlueEagle : #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <sproingie> grrARGH.  wine is driving me to drink
[08:55] <BlueEagle> strife: No worries. I'm used to it.
[08:55] <Strife> heh
[08:56] <BlueEagle> derek_: Did you check the signal cable?
[08:56] <apsync> I want to install ubuntu on the same partition as windows, do I need more software/utilities for this? some say you have to use shrink and some don't
[08:56] <Strife> what's wrong with making a new partition?
[08:56] <tritium> apsync, they need to be on separate partitions
[08:56] <BlueEagle> apsync: Are you sure you want to do that? You might think you want to do that but I bet you really don't want to do that.
[08:56] <apsync> oh hmm..
[08:57] <apsync> then, can I install ubuntu on my slave hd?
[08:57] <haffe> Yes.
[08:57] <derek_> BlueEagle, ?
[08:57] <BlueEagle> apsync: no problem at all.
[08:57] <_rb_> yep. just make the slave hd the active
[08:57] <apsync> ah great
[08:57] <BlueEagle> derek_: ?
[08:57] <derek_> what signal cable?
[08:57] <Strife> well anyway...
[08:57] <derek_> i got this writer repaired once
[08:57] <Strife> I don't even remember why I turned on my laptop in the first place
[08:57] <Strife> so... later
[08:57] <derek_> it worked for some time.. now not
[08:57] <BlueEagle> derek_: ide cable if it's an atapi burner. scsi cable if it's a scsi burner, sata cable if it's a sata burner.
[08:58] <derek_> ide
[08:58] <BlueEagle> derek_: the cable which makes the signal go from the motherboard to the burner.
[08:58] <haffe> Are there any satacdburners?
[08:58] <_rb_> cept that prick windows will need to be installed before ubuntu coz it'll lie about being able to change back which partition is active once windows is installed.
[08:58] <BlueEagle> (ie signal cable)
[08:58] <Madpilot> haffe: a couple, yes
[08:58] <louisjohn> what are u kidding me
[08:59] <derek_> aw
[08:59] <tritium> no, not kidding, louisjohn
[08:59] <_rb_> went thru that one a lot trying to get ubuntu and windows on the same machine, and then installing nvidia. Which, i must say, is absolutely crap in linux.
[08:59] <user_> anyone?
[09:00] <_rb_> huh ?
[09:00] <tritium> _rb_, nvidia works pretty well in ubuntu, I'd say
[09:00] <derek_> huh?
[09:00] <derek_> nvidia is crap in linux?
[09:00] <s4f3_m0d3> i feel like a missed something....
[09:00] <derek_> doesn't nvidia geforce work to its fullest in linux as it does in windows?
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> derek_, one wold imagine
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> would*
[09:01] <_rb_> i'd have thought so, but i've never been able to get the stupid thing working without constant segmentation faults and then fake happyness ( installs, runs fine, but when you reboot ... )
[09:01] <derek_> :(((((((
[09:01] <ngranado> damn that didn't seem to work
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> _rb_, did you reconfigure X after the driver install?
[09:01] <ngranado> did fglrx get changed or something?
[09:01] <_rb_> xconf ?
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> because i've never had any problems with it
[09:01] <_rb_> yeah
[09:01] <ngranado> nods
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> _rb_, no, i mean the dpkg thing
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> with x
[09:01] <_rb_> nvidia-glx-config enable always roots the damn thing
[09:01] <tritium> _rb_, did you completely follow the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[09:02] <s4f3_m0d3> i don't remember the exact command
[09:02] <Snutt> Script to get other partitions like FAT32 and NTFS?
[09:02] <_rb_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? yeah, then nvidia screws it
[09:02] <_rb_> snutt, search for it on google. its on the unofficial ubuntu guide.
[09:02] <brenner> _rb_, hoary runs xorg
[09:02] <tritium> no, that's not typical behavior
[09:03] <Snutt> Thank _rb_
[09:03] <Snutt> +s
[09:03] <derek_> damn
[09:03] <derek_> I need to talk to a group of graphic designers who work on a linux platform
[09:03] <tritium> good night #ubuntu
[09:03] <_rb_> yeah, something like that. /etc/X11/something
[09:03] <brenner> Snutt, don't use th guide
[09:03] <_rb_> got pissed at it and decided well, i'll just use windows xp for games
[09:04] <_rb_> whats wrong with the guide ?
[09:04] <Snutt> Any suggestions brenner
[09:04] <derek_> _rb_, I have to use it for my work (I'll be using blender3d)
[09:04] <brenner> Snutt, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:04] <_rb_> i use blender3d
[09:04] <derek_> _rb_, cool. you a modeller?
[09:04] <Snutt> Thank, jsut what I looked for!
[09:04] <_rb_> it might not look photorealistic
[09:04] <_rb_> but it works
[09:05] <israel> stekios?
[09:05] <_rb_> yeah. but only just recently discovered blender in linux. touched it once years ago. wasn't impressed back then.
[09:05] <_rb_> lightwave user here
[09:05] <ngranado> _rb_: ?
[09:05] <_rb_> before that 3dstudio, before that simply3d.
[09:06] <_rb_> blender seems like its very capable, but i've gotta learn it, which is what started all my problems.
[09:06] <derek_> I used 3dstudio
[09:06] <derek_> but I'm migrating to open source totally
[09:06] <derek_> (license problems)
[09:06] <_rb_> wish i could. still love my games
[09:06] <derek_> :)
[09:06] <s4f3_m0d3> _rb_, cedega might work
[09:06] <_rb_> so thats all xp is on my machine for. hate the feckin thing
[09:07] <_rb_> cedega ?
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> google
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> :D
[09:07] <derek_> I've heard about cedega
[09:07] <_rb_> is it a 3d thing ?
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> no
[09:07] <derek_> its a game thing
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> it lets you run windows games on linux
[09:07] <_rb_> ah
[09:07] <ngranado> someone said something about nvidia someting a rather
[09:07] <__filip_> i have write this in fstab /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,user,defaults 0 0 but i cant write in hda6, what to do?
[09:07] <_rb_> yeah, well, nvidia dont work on my ubuntu, so games i play would be pointless without it
[09:08] <ohphracku> what card _rb_
[09:08] <ohphracku> ?
[09:08] <brenner> _rb_: in general the wiki or this channel is the best source of information....the major sore point of the guide is it's lack of explanations
[09:08] <_rb_> geforce ti500
[09:08] <_rb_> gf3
[09:08] <ohphracku> that should work
[09:08] <nalioth> Filbert: after 'user' put "umask=000"
[09:09] <nalioth> __filip_:  after 'user' put "umask=000"
[09:09] <_rb_> i know it should work, but i've tried about 8 different nvidia builds, kernel headers etc, and it refuses to run without issues. really annoying
[09:09] <__filip_> nalioth: should i delete defaults?
[09:09] <nalioth> __filip_: yes
[09:09] <ngranado> _rb_: help!!!
[09:09] <__filip_> okej
[09:10] <ngranado> ls -al
[09:10] <ngranado> ls -al
[09:10] <_rb_> sup ?
[09:10] <ohphracku> that sucks
[09:10] <_rb_> about nvidia ?
[09:10] <ohphracku> yea
[09:10] <_rb_> yeah. big time
[09:10] <zorba64> _rb_: yeah i can relate, i have a fx5200, linux wont even boot with it...they hit the hotplugging then segfault
[09:11] <ngranado> ls
[09:11] <ngranado> _rb_: yes
[09:11] <ngranado> _rb_: no
[09:11] <ngranado> _rb_: nm, i'm talking about fglrx
[09:11] <derek_> so nvidia geforce fx is not good for linux?
[09:11] <silverton> I have an fx5200
[09:12] <zorba64> derek_: not all anyway
[09:12] <_rb_> yeah. well, i get past hotplugging, the real issue is there is no money in linux drivers for them so they dont cae enough to make sure they work. very microsoft of them i think.
[09:12] <silverton> derek_, nvidia has better support for *nix then ati is
[09:12] <derek_> zorba64, what doy ou mean?
[09:12] <derek_> silverton, I see
[09:12] <_rb_> i dont know about the fx series.
[09:12] <_rb_> usually, ive found the older cards are better supported.
[09:12] <zorba64> derek_:  well some work and some dont
[09:12] <ohphracku> damn micro$0ft
[09:12] <derek_> :/
[09:12] <silverton> my fx does pretty damn well...
[09:13] <_rb_> this coming from someone who swapped a gf3 for a 9800xt so i could make the move from windows
[09:13] <derek_> wish there was an open source hardware manufacturing unit in the world
[09:13] <_rb_> there is for most stuff. just not high end 3d
[09:13] <hondje> opencore
[09:13] <derek_> silverton, in linux?
[09:13] <ohphracku> no shi* huh
[09:13] <ohphracku> open everything!
[09:13] <ohphracku> weeeee
[09:13] <derek_> open everything!!
[09:13] <ohphracku> jk :P
[09:14] <silverton> derek_, yes
[09:14] <ohphracku> yup yup
[09:14] <silverton> though, not as well in ubuntu as it does in debian
[09:14] <derek_> silverton, okay. I'm going to buy a new card. Which model should I go for? i'll be using it in linux
[09:14] <derek_> ohh
[09:14] <derek_> :/
[09:14] <ohphracku> ati works great for me
[09:14] <silverton> I think it might be the fact that ubuntu uses xorg whereas debian testing uses xfree86
[09:14] <ngranado> derek_: i've had no problems with Nvidia
[09:14] <ohphracku> the firegl models
[09:14] <sedat> lo all
[09:15] <derek_> ngranado, fx series?
[09:15] <sedat> need some help troubleshooting
[09:15] <ngranado> derek_: yes
[09:15] <silverton> derek_, if you're on a budget, I'd go for an FX5500 or 5700
[09:15] <derek_> k
[09:15] <_rb_> went through a pile of distros trying to get the nvidia working actually, knoppix, morphix, mandrake, suse, debian. just like ubuntu best, thats all
[09:15] <silverton> but, if you have money to burn, go for a nice 6800 or 7XXX card
[09:15] <zorba64> derek_: mine is a weird setup...asrock mini atx
[09:15] <derek_> silverton, ok.. and its perfectly linux compatible?
[09:15] <ohphracku>  blender & my firegl9600 was smooth
[09:15] <silverton> derek_, yes...
[09:15] <derek_> silverton, you run both ubuntu and debian?
[09:15] <Scholar_Gypsy> hi, by mistake i have deleted the /var/www/ folder. how do i get my webserver running again?
[09:15] <silverton> derek_, yes
[09:16] <derek_> why? :)
[09:16] <zorba64> derek_: it need drivers so that winxp nows its a agp slot and not a pci slot
[09:16] <silverton> why not? :)
[09:16] <_rb_> ubuntu is pretty much the same thing, with more nice things
[09:16] <silverton> _rb_, ubuntu is bit more user friendly
[09:16] <_rb_> as i said. nice things.
[09:16] <silverton> :P
[09:16] <silverton> But, my home is still on debian
[09:16] <derek_> zorba64, well wht if you're not using win
[09:16] <ohphracku> i like ubuntu but dont like the attitude of others sayin "oh you newb u use ubuntu"
[09:17] <_rb_> prolly almost ready to get a more difficult one, but what the hell. I'll just use it for the stuff i do. programming web stuff and 3d work
[09:17] <silverton> my webserver runs debian, while my desktop uses  ubuntu
[09:17] <derek_> ohphracku, lol
[09:17] <kapil> Scholar_Gypsy: try creating the directory /var/www
[09:17] <p0windah> Scholar_Gypsy: create it again or dpkg-reconfigure apache2
[09:17] <_rb_> pissed me off that there is no linux version of flash
[09:17] <silverton> ohphracku, no wayz!  that's what people say about mandrake...  er mandriva
[09:17] <p0windah> or whatever your webserver is..
[09:17] <zorba64> derek_: the card sits there gathering dust, i use the integrated intel in ubuntu
[09:17] <silverton> _rb_, the flash plugin?
[09:17] <_rb_> mandriva is a huge bunch of donkey
[09:17] <ohphracku> my ubutnu is totally different that the stock distro
 pissed me off that there is no linux version of flash
[09:18] <silverton> _rb_, it's nice for people making the switch from windows to  linux
[09:18] <derek_> _rb_, I found a list of them
[09:18] <zorba64> derek_: mind you freebsd has no probs with the card, jut about a dozen linux distros i have tried
[09:18] <derek_> silverton, yes, but very very hard for graphic designers :(((
[09:18] <_rb_> nah, the flash pluggin worked...in konqueror. mozilla said piss off to auto install, and macromedia said piss off to the directory firefox was in. but no, the actual designer software for it
[09:18] <silverton> derek_, eh?
[09:18] <derek_> _rb_, not the plugin
[09:18] <ohphracku> every distro is lame out the box but thats what its about tuning, tweakin, to your tastes
[09:18] <derek_> silverton, migration from windoze to nix
[09:19] <derek_> _rb_, let me give you the links
[09:19] <silverton> derek_, a graphic designer shouldn't be using windows or linux in the first place
[09:19] <_rb_> and the flash pluggin is poked in my system anyway. gotta use explicit sizing, which sucks. konqueror dont liek the exact fit or percentages
[09:19] <derek_> although all these programs are in a very elementary stages of dev.
[09:19] <silverton> that's where the mac and OSX come in
[09:19] <derek_> https://sourceforge.net/projects/qflash/
[09:19] <ngranado> ls
[09:19] <_rb_> um, no its not, and kill whoever told you that. osx is the biggest pile of crap ever made besides windows 3.1
[09:19] <hondje> a graphic designer should use whatever works for him the best
[09:19] <derek_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/f4l/
[09:19] <ngranado> exit
[09:20] <derek_> http://osflash.org/
[09:20] <Kuolio> :D
[09:20] <Scholar_Gypsy> thx p0windah , kapil
[09:20] <ohphracku> anyone tried opensolaris yet
[09:20] <ohphracku> or whatever they call it
[09:20] <_rb_> a graphic designer should use linux ( if it had all the tools ) but can use xp very niceley. they just cant allow it to talk on the internet
[09:20] <derek_> silverton, if I can't afford windoze.. its out of question to go for mac
[09:20] <derek_> _rb_, my only problem is the licensing
[09:20] <silverton> tssht...  anyone with an internet connection can afford windows >.<
[09:21] <derek_> i gotta keep my work legal
[09:21] <_rb_> they recently tried a port of osx onto a pc. kicked the sheet out of mac speeds
[09:21] <silverton> keep the work legal, the OS doesn't matter
[09:21] <_rb_> got any work on the web derek ?
[09:21] <derek_> silverton, it does
[09:21] <silverton> _rb_, that's an on going project...  especially since apple is moving to intel processors
[09:21] <DansFloyd> i need help installing Realplayer...
[09:21] <sedat> anybody knows something about operamotifwrapper?
[09:21] <derek_> _rb_, yeh. http://derek.vnvsoft.com/
[09:21] <_rb_> does if you get audited silverton
[09:21] <derek_> i had derekz.com ..lost it, coz had no cc to make an online payment
[09:22] <nalioth> !tell DansFloyd about restricted
[09:22] <hondje> If people are to respect the GPL, then we have to respect MS's licenses
[09:22] <zorba64> !restricted
[09:22] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <p0windah> hondje: I think you mean "abide"
[09:22] <DansFloyd> restricted?
[09:22] <nalioth> DansFloyd: read the page
[09:22] <hondje> No, respect
[09:22] <nalioth> DansFloyd: near the bottom it covers realplayer
[09:22] <hondje> They have a right to license their work as they see fit
[09:23] <_rb_> and osx sucks anyway. too tied up
[09:23] <_rb_> bbs. going to freak out my machine
[09:23] <derek_> k
[09:23] <derek_> later
[09:23] <derek_> so I should safely buy a geforce fx 5200?
[09:24] <silverton> derek_, personally, I'd go with a 5500 or a 5700
[09:24] <silverton> I'm going to upgrade mine soon
[09:24] <derek_> ok
[09:24] <silverton> I regret buying mine :(
[09:24] <derek_> my mobo has s3 prosavage
[09:24] <JustSteve> i had a 5200 it was okay, but for the same price you can usually get something better anymore
[09:24] <silverton> don't buy one that is done by rosewill
[09:24] <DansFloyd> says its available in hoary-extras
[09:24] <JustSteve> derek_ what is your price range?
[09:25] <derek_> rosewill?
[09:25] <hondje> I have a 5200, it seems to work fine
[09:25] <silverton> derek_, rosewill is a manufactorer
[09:25] <nalioth> !tell DansFloyd about sources
[09:25] <silverton> since nvidia don't make their own cards, just the chips
[09:25] <Carpe_Libertatem> My videocard has dual-monitor capabilities - how can I enable that in Ubuntu?
[09:25] <silverton> xinerama?
[09:25] <derek_> oh
[09:25] <derek_> they don't make the cards?
[09:25] <derek_> who makes the cards?
[09:26] <silverton> nope, just develop the chips, I believe it lowers the cost of the cards overall
[09:26] <silverton> derek_, anyone... rofl
[09:26] <derek_> :)
[09:26] <hondje> lots of people...mine came from taiwan :)
[09:26] <JustSteve> nvidia is a chip maker, not a manufacturer, there are no nvidia cards made by nvidia
[09:26] <silverton> many companies make the nvidia cards
[09:26] <derek_> prolly china must be making some now too
[09:27] <user_> *** how to setup workgrgoup in linux(ubuntu)?***
[09:27] <derek_> JustSteve, about 136.877 USD
[09:27] <redapocolypse> esd doesnt work how do i fix it?
[09:27] <derek_> about 135 USD
[09:28] <zeeble> hi. just installed ubuntu 5.10 preview... how do i get gkrellm? tried apt-cache search for gkrellm but no results
[09:29] <silverton> that's the one I'd buy
[09:29] <user_> *** how to setup workgrgoup in linux(ubuntu)? anyone? ***
[09:29] <JustSteve> derek_ about 120-150 US should get you a 66oo which is TONS better than a 5200
[09:29] <Toma-> user_: google
[09:29] <derek_> JustSteve, ok.  I've really not done much in 3D.. I'm a Flash guy
[09:31] <_rb_> ah
[09:31] <zeeble> silverton: heh. my bad :)
[09:31] <sedat> what's the command to make a file?
[09:31] <_rb_> what sort of flash do you do ?
[09:31] <derek_> I was working on a car model
[09:31] <zeeble> silverton: just trying this out on the laptop, before i get the final release and use it full time.
[09:31] <derek_> Fiat Palio Weekender
[09:31] <_rb_> and is that qflash going now ? i thought i'd tried that a while back
[09:31] <zeeble> sedat: er, read README and INSTALL
[09:31] <derek_> but the mesh got too complex and I started needing a card
[09:32] <sedat> k
[09:32] <derek_> _rb_, I haven't tried any of those open source flash yet
[09:32] <sedat> tried help and manual but it aked me what page :)
[09:32] <JustSteve> derek_ what country are you from?
[09:32] <derek_> I'm still in windows
[09:32] <_rb_> too complex in what ? blender ?
[09:32] <derek_> JustSteve, India
[09:32] <derek_> _rb_, no, 3dsmax
[09:32] <_rb_> ah. which version ?
[09:32] <JustSteve> ah, i don't know any stores in india >_<
[09:32] <derek_> 5
[09:32] <brenner> sedat: what are you trying to do?
[09:32] <derek_> JustSteve, np.
[09:33] <derek_> _rb_, you got any work for display?
[09:33] <sedat> create a file called libmap.conf
[09:33] <sedat> last step of installing opera
[09:33] <derek_> JustSteve, thanks though :)
[09:33] <sedat> but i'm too lazy to do sudo nautilus
[09:33] <JustSteve> but in all i would avoid the nvidia FX cards if possible
[09:33] <brenner> sedat: just open a n editor
[09:33] <derek_> JustSteve, why?
[09:33] <brenner> sedat: or use 'touch'
[09:33] <nomad111> hey there
[09:33] <nomad111> just wondering
[09:33] <silverton> :O
[09:33] <nomad111> is it worth switching from fedora core 4 to ubuntu
[09:33] <silverton> they hosed the "run application" menu thing in gnome 2.12??
[09:33] <JustSteve> just not the best performance on them, major upgrade on the 6600 and up
[09:34] <zeeble> silverton: cheers. updated and now it is availablee.
[09:34] <sedat> thanks all
[09:34] <silverton> zeeble, no problem dude
[09:34] <_rb_> nothing properly. hmm. I have done a fair bit, but the actual stuff is corperate, so its all locked up and currently running. the 3d stuff.....um, nothing actually set up. I could find some stuff and chuck it in a folder. hangon
[09:34] <sedat> touch it is
[09:34] <hebez_> !ubuntuguide
[09:34] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:34] <derek_> nomad111, yeah.. if you want to upgrade from nomad status :P
[09:34] <brenner> nomad111: you ask in an #ubuntu channel... :)
[09:34] <hebez_> !faq
[09:34] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[09:34] <zeeble> brenner: hehe
[09:34] <apsync> I am about to install ubuntu on my slave HD, which has data i dont want to lose, will ubuntu format the drive before installing
[09:35] <derek_> _rb_, ok
[09:35] <nomad111> actually i wanted to kno how is better than fc4
[09:35] <brenner> "out of data"?
[09:35] <derek_> its debian based
[09:35] <JustSteve> noman111 : FWIW i like Ubuntu better than Slax
[09:35] <zeeble> nomad111: newer packages, easier to maintain.
[09:35] <nomad111> just making sure man
[09:35] <derek_> FWIW?
[09:35] <hebez_> where is more robust sources.list available?
[09:35] <zeeble> for what its worth
[09:35] <JustSteve> for what it's worth = FWIW
[09:35] <brenner> apsync: not if you manually set up the partitions
[09:35] <nomad111> does ubuntu use yum or apt or wat
[09:35] <derek_> ok
[09:36] <apsync> ok, :-)
[09:36] <zeeble> nomad111: apt. fc4 stole apt from debian. and yum was made by yellowdog to mimic the apt behaviour
[09:36] <JustSteve> ubuntu is debian based so it uses apt, there's a bunch of reviews of Hoary online
[09:36] <nomad111> lol im not too good with that stuff
[09:36] <brenner> apsync: the installer can resize partitions btw....just defrag 1st (if it's fat/ntfs)
[09:36] <nomad111> but coz i started off with yum
[09:36] <zeeble> nomad111: check out www.distrowatch.com
[09:36] <hebez_> !sources.list
[09:36] <apsync> ah
[09:36] <ubotu> hebez_: I give up, what is it?
[09:36] <nomad111> wats it for
[09:36] <zeeble> nomad111: lol. it is easy. theres a GUI for apt too.
[09:37] <zeeble> nomad111: distrowatch compares different distros.. etc.
[09:37] <apsync> what about if I make a partition now with partition magic, can I select that partition while installing ubuntu?
[09:37] <sedat> i need to libmap llibXm.so.2 to libXm.so.3, so i created /etc/libmap.conf, but what do i put in there?
[09:37] <JustSteve> nomad111 : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[09:37] <nomad111> wats the official faq site by the way for ubuntu
[09:37] <brenner> apsync: yep
[09:37] <hebez_> tell hebez_ repositories
[09:37] <nomad111> thx i owe ya
[09:37] <apsync> allright, gonna do that then, thank you
[09:37] <JustSteve> there's a review of Breezy out as well
[09:38] <silverton> nomad111, wiki.ubuntu.org
[09:38] <silverton> or .com
[09:38] <silverton> I forget
[09:38] <silverton> !wiki
[09:38] <silverton> ! wiki
[09:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, silverton
[09:38] <zeeble> !faq
[09:38] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[09:38] <sedat> !wiki
[09:38] <jtan325> is there a place to see ubuntu package stats?
[09:38] <jtan325> i.e. popcon for ubuntu?
[09:38] <nomad111> and last question when is breezy coming out
[09:38] <zeeble> nomad111: /topic
[09:38] <spiral> hi
[09:39] <zeeble> spine55: heyas
[09:39] <brenner> jtan325: define stats
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> zeeble, how exactly did fedore steal apt?
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> i mean...
[09:39] <nomad111> ah k
[09:39] <nomad111> oct 13
[09:39] <user_> exit
[09:39] <derek_> _rb_, do you know of any online community of graphic designers that work on the linux platform?
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> linux is opensource...free exchange of ideas...
[09:39] <nomad111> will wait
[09:39] <user_> oop
[09:39] <jtan325> i.e. number of times a package has been installed
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> so....
[09:39] <jtan325> or downloaded
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> how do you steal opensource things?
[09:39] <zeeble> s4f3_m0d3: uh ok.
[09:39] <jtan325> (assuming the package is in the repos)
[09:40] <ngranado> anyone in here know how I can reconfigure my fonts for X, for some reason my paths or something to my fonts ahve been screwed up
[09:40] <s4f3_m0d3> apt has been a package for RH distros for a while actually
[09:40] <brenner> jtan325: eek....don't think there is anything to see stuff like that
[09:40] <brenner> not 100% certain though
[09:40] <zeeble> first it was in conectiva, who ported apt to rpm. then redhat started using it.
[09:40] <dskloet> @ngranado, I seem to have the same problem
[09:40] <zeeble> but yeah, very wrong choice of words when i said "steal"
[09:40] <ngranado> dskloet: really? were you running breezy?
[09:41] <derek_> is it possible to net-install ubuntu? and then not select gnome?
[09:41] <derek_> and install fluxbox
[09:41] <zeeble> was trying to be humorous up there.
[09:41] <dskloet> yes
[09:41] <ngranado> dskloet: you did that update?
[09:41] <s4f3_m0d3> zeeble, humor translates poorly in text :/
[09:41] <ngranado> dskloet: me too, and now I wish I hadn't
[09:41] <zeeble> s4f3_m0d3: yeah.
[09:41] <JustSteve> derek_ i don't think so
[09:41] <derek_> JustSteve, k
[09:41] <ngranado> dskloet: which what kind of card do you have?
[09:41] <dskloet> @ngranado: indeed
[09:42] <dskloet> graphics card you mean? asus riva tnt
[09:42] <ngranado> ahh
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: I was running fglrd
[09:42] <zeeble> Cant you get the whole ubuntu CD, do a expert install, install the base system, and then download whatever packages ytou want?
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: I was running fglrx*
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: which font?
[09:42] <nalioth> derek_: you can install a server only environment from the cd, and then install flux or whatever
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: mine's complaining about 'fixed'
[09:42] <dskloet> ng:would the graphics card be the problem?
[09:42] <dskloet> ng: font fixed
[09:42] <ngranado> damn
[09:42] <ngranado> I don't think the grahpics card is the problem
[09:43] <dskloet> ng: would it be a general breezy problem?
[09:43] <ngranado> dskloet: I think I got a package's config file that I shouldn't have
[09:43] <ngranado> some x program too...
[09:43] <derek_> nalioth ah ok thanks
[09:43] <dskloet> ng: why do you thank that?
[09:44] <ngranado> dskloet: cause now it's having a problems with the fonts and accessing them, I think it's just a path that's jumbbled up
[09:44] <derek_> but I'm somehow trying to minimize my download
[09:44] <derek_> is there a smaller CD for server install?
[09:44] <zeeble> dont think so.
[09:44] <ngranado> dskloet: or a path that is not defined properly in a config file somewhere
[09:44] <derek_> k
[09:44] <dskloet> but is there someone here who can help us?
[09:44] <silverton> wow
[09:44] <ngranado> derek_: if you want a server install, just install Debian
[09:45] <silverton> "glxgears" is running so fuckin slow...
[09:45] <silverton> holy crap
[09:45] <zeeble> heh.
[09:45] <dskloet> ng: the message suggests there's some path wrong, indeed
[09:45] <derek_> ngranado, but i won't be using it as a server later
[09:45] <ngranado> dskloet: it apparently doesn't seem so cause no one has interjected with knowledge
[09:45] <ngranado> derek_: is hd space a problem?
[09:45] <nalioth> derek_: same cd
[09:45] <nomad111> is the new ubuntu gonna be 64 bit capable
[09:45] <derek_> ngranado, no, bandwidth problem
[09:45] <ngranado> ahh
[09:46] <ngranado> derek_: I'm sure there's a way to net install
[09:46] <derek_> ubuntu won't run on athlon 64?
[09:46] <derek_> ngranado, cool
[09:46] <nalioth> nomad111: yes
[09:46] <nomad111> sick
[09:46] <JustSteve> nomad111 there's a 64 bit version already
[09:46] <nomad111> ah k
[09:46] <derek_> nomad111, why sick?
[09:46] <ngranado> derek_: I unfortunately haven't had to do that yet
[09:46] <derek_> nomad111, check out the download section at ubuntu.com
[09:46] <nomad111> ive only tried fedora so far
[09:46] <ngranado> dskloet: how are you running irc?
[09:46] <nalioth> derek_: perhaps you'd see the wiki on "installing from X" where x is windows, mepis, knoppix, etc
[09:47] <derek_> ngranado, ok np
[09:47] <nomad111> but i feel like its messy
[09:47] <nomad111> my frend recomended ubuntu
[09:47] <nomad111> might order a few cd's and give out in university
[09:47] <nomad111> spread the love
[09:47] <dskloet> ng: I just typed irc on my prompt and it worked :)
[09:47] <ngranado> dskloet: cool
[09:47] <ngranado> dskloet: that's what I'm using
[09:47] <JustSteve> derek_ minislack uses flux
[09:47] <ngranado> dskloet: this is comedy
[09:47] <dskloet> :)
[09:48] <derek_> JustSteve, I see. I don't want slack though :)
[09:48] <dskloet> ngranado: I never use irc but ubuntu.com suggested it could help me
[09:48] <derek_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:48] <JustSteve> lol. i know. i almost tried it today
[09:48] <derek_> _rb_, wassup?
[09:48] <ngranado> dskloet: I always use IRC
[09:48] <ngranado> dskloet: and the wikis
[09:48] <dskloet> ngranado: and I thought it might be best readable without X
[09:48] <ngranado> dskloet: except I'm kinda fucked with the wiki thing
[09:49] <Flying-Penguin> ubuntu
[09:49] <Flying-Penguin> w00t
[09:50] <dskloet> Any idea how to reconfigure a package? When I do 'dpck --configure ...' it says ... is already installed and configured.
[09:50] <dskloet> dpck=dpkg
[09:50] <[Chameleon] > anybody want to help me confirm a Breezy bug? you have to have a xine front-end.
[09:50] <bob2> dskloet: dpkg-reconfigure blah
[09:50] <silverton> dskloet, dpkg-reconfigure foo
[09:51] <bob2> tho that only works for things that use debconf
[09:51] <dskloet> thanks
[09:51] <silverton> yeah, what he said
[09:52] <dskloet> I want to reconfigure my X or fonts in order to get it working again...
[09:52] <dskloet> which package could I reconfigure?
[09:52] <_rb_> derek_ http://www.pol.co.nz/dave
[09:52] <derek_> _rb_, ok
[09:52] <_rb_> just what i could find
[09:52] <ngranado> dskloet: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <_rb_> my system is never clean enough for me to find anything
[09:53] <bob2> ngranado: dpkg-reconfigure
[09:53] <ngranado> bob2: thanks
[09:53] <derek_> these are made in blender or max?
[09:53] <JustSteve> finding thins... has anyone else tried Beagle? and gotten it to work?
[09:53] <_rb_> ngrando, is that the command to use after installing nvidia drivers too ?
[09:53] <dskloet> ngranado: it says: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > !beagle
[09:53] <ubotu> it has been said that beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[09:53] <_rb_> neither. lightwave 7
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > bah
[09:54] <derek_> on windoze?
[09:54] <bob2> JustSteve: worked for me in breezy
[09:54] <_rb_> reason i want to learn blender is that i hate windows, and dont have anything even close to legal in the way of software. love lightwave tho
[09:54] <JustSteve> i couldn't get it running in hoary
[09:54] <_rb_> yeah. in xpee
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: Beagle is officially slated for Breezy+1
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: read what ubotu suggested above.
[09:54] <bob2> but is included in breezy, in universe
[09:54] <derek_> _rb_, you'll be using blender on windows?
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: or try Breezy as bob2 suggests.
[09:55] <JustSteve> yeah, i just wanted to try it out and see what it did. i'm not going to breezy until full release
[09:55] <_rb_> screw that. If i use windows, I use lightwave. but it wont work in linux, so i'm gunna learn blender. principles are the same, just the interface is a real heap different.
[09:55] <derek_> okay
[09:55] <JustSteve> i tried Kubuntu Breezy and discovered i hate KDE
[09:55] <derek_> good
[09:56] <Toma-> kubuntu = <3
[09:56] <dskloet> I did apt-get install xserver-xorg and now it's doing a lot. Though I thought I already had it installed...
[09:56] <_rb_> i hate kubuntu
[09:56] <_rb_> kde is nice
[09:56] <derek_> jump into #blender
[09:56] <derek_> kde is a resource hogger
[09:56] <nomad111> i like gnome
[09:56] <Toma-> derek_: you a twm kinda person?
[09:56] <ngranado> oh no, here we go with desktop manager wars
[09:56] <JustSteve> i like fluxbox better than gnome, but i'm putting off making my menus
[09:56] <derek_> Toma-, fluxbox
[09:57] <derek_> ngranado, no we won't :)
[09:57] <_rb_> heh. not into dmws
[09:57] <JustSteve> i run BB4Win on XP :-P
[09:57] <dskloet> I would like to be able to run any wm it this point :(
[09:58] <ngranado> dskloet: dude
[09:58] <Toma-> 9wm
[09:58] <ngranado> dskloet: my sources.list got changed back to hoary
[09:58] <JustSteve> having X not work sucks man
[09:58] <ngranado> dskloet: i bet there was a apt update
[09:58] <dskloet> can you change back? won't that screw up things even more?
[09:59] <hondje> changing back to hoary in sources.list won't downgrade you
[09:59] <derek_> _rb_, you know about any online design community that works on linux platform?
[09:59] <dskloet> what will it do?
[09:59] <hondje> nothing
[09:59] <dskloet> :(
[09:59] <hondje> you'd have to use apt pinning to go back
[09:59] <hondje> it's not very easy
[10:00] <dskloet> I don't really want to go back, I just want the fixed font so I can start X again.
[10:00] <_rb_> havent looked for one.
[10:00] <_rb_> but if you search by blender, you'll find one
[10:01] <derek_> k
[10:01] <brenner> i've got a cpu that should be running at 1.6Ghz, but cat/proc/cpuinfo shows: cpu MHz : 800.277......any ideas?
[10:01] <brenner> *cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:01] <Toma-> brenner: is it an amd?
[10:01] <brenner> Toma-: yep
[10:02] <brenner> sempron 2800+
[10:02] <Toma-> ahh i se
[10:02] <Toma-> e
[10:02] <brenner> um...i've disabled apic....maybe that's it?
[10:02] <Toma-> weird.
[10:02] <brenner> i'd rather not reenable it though...i had that double clock speed prob
[10:02] <Toma-> possibly. my sempron 2800 is running at 2000mhz
[10:03] <Kuolio> put in "no_timer_check" and the clock speed gets back to normal
[10:03] <brenner> Toma-: and is it a 2Ghz machine?
[10:03] <dskloet> Where should the font "fixed" be located and where should it say?
[10:03] <Kuolio> to your menu.lst , in /boot/grub/
[10:03] <brenner> Kuolio: afaik, that's for the 2.6.12 kernel
[10:03] <Toma-> seems so
[10:03] <brenner> i'm just running default
[10:04] <Kuolio> brenner, yep you are right, it's for .12 and newer
[10:04] <Toma-> paste your flags output to me in pm
[10:04] <brenner> flags?
[10:04] <Toma-> from cpu_info
[10:04] <brenner> ah
[10:04] <ngranado> dskloet: did you check your sources
[10:05] <dskloet> ngranado: what do you mean? sources.list?
[10:05] <ngranado> dskloet: check less /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <brenner> Toma-: this is a presario btw...i should've gone for a thinkpad
[10:06] <Toma-> oh... laptop?
[10:06] <dskloet> ngranado: it's just the default for warty with a substitute warty/breezy
[10:06] <Toma-> hmm cant help
[10:06] <dskloet> ngranado: why?
[10:06] <ngranado> oh, mine was set to hoary
[10:06] <Toma-> soz
[10:07] <brenner> heh, np
[10:07] <dskloet> ngranado: was set? by whom?
[10:07] <hondje> Proper use of 'whom' in an IRC chan?
[10:07] <brenner> Toma-: what kernel you running btw?
[10:08] <Toma-> latest one from ubuntu
[10:08] <robotgeek> hondje: :)
[10:08] <robotgeek> Toma-: uname -a
[10:08] <Toma-> 2.6.10-5-386
[10:08] <brenner> default...same as mine
[10:09] <dskloet> hondje: It's my first time in irc. Shouldn't I use proper english?
[10:09] <hondje> hehe
[10:09] <robotgeek> dskloet: we are happy abt it :)
[10:09] <dskloet> of is nederlands beter?
[10:09] <JustSteve> hmm, someone release Umicons for Linux on Deviantart
[10:11] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: URL?
[10:11] <dskloet> ngranado: did you change it to hoary or did it happen automaticaly?
[10:12] <JustSteve> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2550034/ says for KDE but there aren't that many kde centric icons
[10:13] <JustSteve> someone already remixed the gnome2 icons as well
[10:13] <kung> brenner you#re still wondering why your laptop does not run at full speed?
[10:13] <brenner> kung: certainly am. :)
[10:13] <kakalto> hello
[10:13] <kung> thats usual
[10:13] <kung> its called speed stepping
[10:13] <kung> and it saves your cpu from overheating
[10:13] <kung> and it saves power
[10:14] <kung> if more cpu power is needed the frequency goes up automatically
[10:14] <brenner> kung: oh, ok.
[10:14] <kung> if you want to change it on your own you can use programs like cpuspeedy
[10:15] <kakalto> I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on an older computer, and it can't detect the network hardware. It says to go back to "detect network hardware" if I want network, but it just scans, finds nothing, comes up with the same message. What can I do?
[10:15] <brenner> kung: if i did a cat while the CPU was running hard, would i see a change?
[10:15] <kung> guess it is in the package laptop-mode-tools
[10:15] <kung> sure you would
[10:15] <crimsun> kakalto: is it an ISA NIC?
[10:15] <JustSteve> [Chameleon]  - you like those icons?
[10:15] <kung> you canchange it manually aswell
[10:15] <brenner> kung: thanks for the info...i'll try it now
[10:16] <kakalto> crimsun, not sure
[10:16] <kakalto> crimsun, no, dynalink
[10:16] <crimsun> kakalto: nearly all PCI NICs are properly configured via hotplug
[10:16] <brenner> kung: what do you know...it changed. :D
[10:16] <kakalto> *D-link
[10:17] <crimsun> kakalto: model name/#?
[10:17] <kung> brenner I guess you could aswell do a "echo 7 > /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling" to set it to full speed, but I'm not quite sure about that, so you better inform youself some more..;)
[10:17] <brenner> kung: thanks again....at least i know it ain't faulty
[10:17] <kung> :)
[10:17] <kung> its not a bug, its a feature - or so..;)
[10:17] <kakalto> crimsun, can't quite see it inside the case
[10:17] <kakalto> I can only see the logo
[10:18] <crimsun> kakalto: what does ''lspnp'' report for it?
[10:18] <crimsun> (if it's ISA)
[10:18] <kakalto> I dunno, I'm in the middle of an installation
[10:19] <brenner> 'nother question: removing windows completely from this dualboot lappy....what's the best way to go about it?
[10:19] <kakalto> just install without network hardware, configure later?
[10:19] <kung> brenner windows was preinstalled?
[10:20] <kakalto> crimsun, should I just install without network hardware, and try to configure later?
[10:20] <brenner> kung: fraid so
[10:20] <crimsun> kakalto: if you can get at least the model name/#, that's best. Otherwise just continue the installation without the network.
[10:20] <kung> on my notebook there were some partitions from the manufacturer including a recovery system and an installation system
[10:20] <general> Hello
[10:20] <kakalto> crimsun, I'm not sure if this means anything but... "De-220P"
[10:20] <kung> so I first saved these partitons (made a disk image of these) and saved the partition table.
[10:21] <Cube-ness> hey..is there some easy way in ubuntu to open/close ports?
[10:21] <dskloet> general: Hello
[10:21] <kung> then you can just resize the windows and install partitions or delete them
[10:21] <Madpilot> Cube-ness: install Firestarter
[10:21] <ee_lars> Cube-ness : yes desactivate your firewall ;)
[10:21] <kung> I resized them since I still need windows for some scientific stuff :/
[10:22] <Madpilot> speaking of ports: can someone point me toward a legal Torrent that they *know* works? I'm still not sure I've got gTorrent & Firestarter playing nice...
[10:22] <brenner> kung: ok, i'm not quite sur i got you...do i have to reinstall?  isn't there a way of just deleting the partition and installing GRUB somewhere?
[10:22] <kung> sure
[10:22] <Cube-ness> ee_lars, huh?
[10:22] <kung> you can just delete it
[10:22] <kung> but then its gone
[10:22] <brenner> afaik, i only had the one partition with windows on it
[10:23] <brenner> kung: er, that's what i want. :)
[10:23] <Kuolio> brenner: do a fresh install and when asked about partitioning, opt for advanced and format all your drives.. that should be the easiest way.. and, might add, install breezy, it's stable enough nowadays (so you dont need to dist-upgrade in a few weeks)
[10:23] <brenner> ie going ubuntu-only. :)
[10:23] <kung> and I'd always install grup in the master boot record
[10:23] <kung> no matter if windows is on the notebook or not
[10:23] <derek_> _rb_, http://www.pol.co.nz/dave/watch.jpg ...nice!
[10:23] <Kuolio> upzie, *format your windows partition*
[10:24] <kung> just install grub wherever you like, it can access you linux partitions anywhere on the harddisk
[10:24] <brenner> Kuolio: so fresh install is easiest?  i might as well just wait for the official breezy release...
[10:24] <brenner> kung: righto then
[10:24] <Renski2> hey all
[10:25] <Renski2> Im trying to use apt-get to install apache, however its asking me to insert the 5.04 CD, which is currently at the office. How can I get it to not ask for the CD, and download it instead?
[10:26] <brenner> Renski: remove it from your sources.list file
[10:26] <Redactech> remove the cd from sources.list
[10:26] <samu2> Renski, you can disable the CD from the repositories section in synaptic package manager
[10:26] <Renski2> wheres my sources.list file?
[10:26] <brenner> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:26] <Redactech> /etc/apt/
[10:26] <samu2> Easier to do it through synaptic.
[10:27] <haffe> Is it safe to change to breezy repositories now?
[10:27] <brenner> heh...i find the synaptic method a bit confusing to tell the truth
[10:27] <haffe> I tried during the summer and my system borked.
[10:27] <Renski2> comment out this line?
[10:27] <Renski2> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[10:27] <samu2> brenner, are you used to many years of editing your sources.list?
[10:27] <brenner> Renski: that's the one.
[10:27] <Renski2> thanks
[10:28] <silverton> omfg, I love this!
[10:28] <samu2> GUI > Editing config files manually
[10:28] <Renski2> samu2, id rather do it through the conf file
[10:28] <silverton> I'm getting near 10mbit from my cable company :D
[10:28] <brenner> samu2: not really...warty was my first debian-based distro
[10:28] <Cube-ness> i am just wanting to let https traffic come through..
[10:28] <Redactech> anyone experience apt-get stopping at Main Packages.gz
[10:28] <Redactech> in Breezy ?
[10:28] <kung> uh, no
[10:28] <s4f3_m0d3> where do i get ubuntu ppc nvidia drivers?
[10:29] <kung> I installed the original ones from nvidia
[10:29] <kung> at least for my x86
[10:29] <s4f3_m0d3> yeah
[10:29] <s4f3_m0d3> PPC is different
[10:29] <Madpilot> Cube-ness: you should get https thru by default - aren't you?
[10:29] <kung> so it should work with the ppc ones aswell
[10:29] <robotgeek> s4f3_m0d3: i don't think u have binaries for ppc
[10:29] <s4f3_m0d3> robotgeek, and?
[10:30] <Redactech> anyone has a breezy install right now ?
[10:30] <Cube-ness> Madpilot, i just treid form another computer.. yes it is.. hehe.. i guess my issue is my router, but i could swea i opened port 443
[10:30] <Renski2> im getting conneciton refused on <IP_ADDRESS>, what do I to get it running?
[10:31] <Madpilot> Renski: you've got Apache installed? wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP has start/stop/restart info
[10:31] <robotgeek> s4f3_m0d3: i am not sure
[10:31] <kung> oh, no orignal nvida drivers for ppc linux strange
[10:33] <sedat> breezy here
[10:33] <samu2> brenner, I have to admit I found synaptic's way of dealing with repositories a bit confusing at first.s
[10:33] <Redactech> sedat : did you apt-get update recently ?
[10:33] <_rb_> derek_ cheers about the watch.
[10:33] <derek_> _rb_, ;)
[10:33] <sedat> now
[10:33] <brenner> samu2: heh, maybe it's b/c the sample sources.list is so well commented. :)
[10:34] <sedat> y?
[10:34] <derek_> _rb_, check this out: http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[10:34] <Redactech> my stop at  http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages [572kB]
[10:34] <Redactech> 43% [17 Packages 206519/572kB 36%]
[10:34] <_rb_> unfortunately, its not the final. cant find that.
[10:34] <derek_> _rb_, for combustion in windoze
[10:34] <Redactech> sedat : whatever the miror I choose
[10:34] <derek_> ('discreet combustion')
[10:34] <_rb_> the final had the bezier engraving and the wear maps. it was basically a replica of the wath i wore at the time
[10:34] <derek_> _rb_, cool
[10:34] <derek_> is this your latest model?
[10:35] <sedat> synaptic fails too then while refreshing?
[10:35] <fek> moin
[10:35] <Redactech> apt-get update and synaptic give error after the update
[10:35] <starshine> hello
[10:35] <kakalto> what is the minimum/recommended specs for ubuntu?
[10:36] <sedat> 500 athlon running fine here
[10:36] <kakalto> ya think it'll run on a pentium 233?
[10:36] <sedat> gnome?
[10:36] <Redactech> sedat : Impossible de rcuprer http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:36] <Redactech> yes
[10:36] <kakalto> sedat, are you using xfce?
[10:36] <Redactech> nope
[10:37] <sedat> nope
[10:37] <sedat> gnome
[10:37] <kakalto> ohk
[10:37] <nalioth> kakalto: yes, with a lightweight window mangler
[10:37] <sedat> but only my second day with ubuntu
[10:37] <Redactech> I got gnome yes
[10:37] <derek_> "Cinelerra takes what normally is a boring server operating system - studied in computer science classrooms, hidden in back offices - and turns it into a 50,000 watt flamethrower of multimedia editing power."
[10:37] <s4f3_m0d3> um....
[10:37] <robotgeek> kakalto: yeah, you can put fluxbox/openbox on it also and be cool
[10:37] <kakalto> I'm gonna try with gnome, but I expect the need to switch to my beautiful xfce
[10:37] <brenner> nalioth: mangler? :)
[10:37] <Frafra> hi all
[10:37] <indian> hi
[10:37] <kakalto> hi Frafra
[10:37] <brenner> kakalto: how much RAM do you have?
[10:37] <kakalto> 256M
[10:38] <derek_> hi indian
[10:38] <indian> hi
[10:38] <ColonelKernel> should be able to do gnome with 256
[10:38] <derek_> kaise ho?
[10:38] <brenner> kakalto: same here...it's a little sluggish
[10:38] <Frafra> i must configure a canonscan D660U
[10:38] <indian> chennai se
[10:38] <sedat> just remember patience is a virtue
[10:38] <derek_> i asked how you are :)
[10:38] <indian> acche hoom
[10:38] <derek_> k
[10:38] <derek_> you don't speak hindi much?
[10:38] <kakalto> sedat, how can I forget patience is a virtue when running a 233?
[10:38] <Frafra> xsane doesn't work
[10:39] <robotgeek> derek_,indian : join #ubuntu-offtopic we can speak in hindi/tamil
[10:39] <Redactech> sedat : I got this error W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[10:39] <ColonelKernel> UGH!!!! 233
[10:39] <indian> han jee
[10:39] <sedat> redac, c seulement ma deuxieme jour avec linux
[10:39] <indian> aapkidher se
[10:39] <sedat> i can update that one
[10:39] <kakalto> ColonelKernel, I ran that thing for atleast 5 years on WinME, (dunno how I lasted) but now I'm trying to revive it after about a year of no use
[10:39] <_rb_> cinelerra wont compile on my system
[10:40] <derek_> _rb_, why not?
[10:40] <_rb_> cant remember the problem
[10:40] <kakalto> win 95, then ME
[10:40] <Redactech> sedat : ah je veux juste savoir si y a un probleme avec les mirroirs
[10:40] <_rb_> something beginning with x not present
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> you should be able to pull gnome then
[10:40] <_rb_> farkd around for ages to try to make it work
[10:40] <derek_> kakalto, then hell
[10:40] <Redactech> sedat : good luck with linux and drop here anytime with your problems
[10:40] <sedat> jpense pas parce que tous les miroirs update bon
[10:40] <sedat> thx
[10:41] <sedat> ooops
[10:41] <sedat> be.archive.ubuntu.com is working fine
[10:41] <sedat> sorry i missed that
[10:41] <derek_> _rb_, :(
[10:41] <Redactech> sedat thanks I'm trying this one
[10:42] <kakalto> I tried ubuntu on it previously, when it had an 8mb savage trio64, and it didn't work
[10:42] <brenner> kung: still here?
[10:42] <kakalto> but now I have a Riva TNT2 w/ 32m !
[10:42] <sedat> are there any good partition managers to resize ntfs and fat32?
[10:43] <haffe> Partion Magic.
[10:43] <haffe> qtparted
[10:43] <kakalto> Partition Magic ain't free though aye
[10:43] <Redactech> gparted in your live cd
[10:43] <athlon> anyone using amarok in breezy ? whats the latest version available in the repo ?
[10:43] <Kuolio> 1.3
[10:44] <athlon> thanks
[10:44] <sedat> already installed ;)
[10:44] <sedat> thanks
[10:44] <athlon> wait 1.3 instead of 1.3.1 ?
[10:44] <Frafra> who could help me?
[10:44] <Kuolio> athlon: 1.3.1
[10:44] <athlon> ah okay, thanks
[10:44] <crimsun> 1.3.1 was uploaded and built yesterday.
[10:44] <Kuolio> it was added last night, some 12h ago
[10:44] <Madpilot> Frafra: have you searched the Ubuntu forums with your scanner name?
[10:45] <sedat> i think the ubuntu installer still needs some serious work btw
[10:45] <kakalto> yeh
[10:45] <kakalto> but atleast the actual distro is pretty good
[10:45] <sedat> the autopartition thingy doesnt start on my laptop
[10:45] <kakalto> the installer only needs to be used once, the rest can be used daily
[10:46] <_rb_> in windows i used to use after effects tho
[10:46] <Frafra> Madpilot: canonscan D660U not found
[10:46] <_rb_> and cinestream
[10:46] <sedat> i nearly gave up though
[10:46] <brenner> sedat: when you manually edit the partition table?
[10:46] <sedat> manually worked
[10:46] <danst> hi everyone! I wanted to compile imms for bmp and encountered some problems, is there somebody who tried / wants to try the same?
[10:46] <sedat> but only had a 2 gig partition free
[10:46] <heatxsink> oh man that dsk guy left huh?
[10:46] <heatxsink> I got my X server up and running again
[10:46] <sedat> which is too small, so it faild
[10:47] <robotgeek> danst: imms?
[10:47] <kakalto> is xubuntu going to happen?
[10:47] <Frafra> Madpilot: I've found it here: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON
[10:47] <robotgeek> danst: do u have beep-media-player-dev installed, if imms is a plugin for bmp
[10:48] <danst> robotgeek: imms is a plugin which acts as an intelligent playlist
[10:48] <whistler> hello
[10:49] <Redactech> Is there anyone having problem with breezy update today ?
[10:49] <sedat> qtparted question: can i move a partition as the free space is is between two logical partitions, so cant resize my primary one
[10:50] <brenner> danst: maybe post a HOWTO on the forum if you want to share...
[10:50] <robotgeek> danst: try it after getting the dev package, and let us know if that worked
[10:50] <whistler> Redactech everything was fine last time.I updated at 9.30 am
[10:51] <concept10> danst: have you tried to use the imms .deb for xmms?
[10:51] <heatxsink> anyone else notice on their laptop that their eraser head doesn't ALWAYS work?
[10:51] <danst> concept: no i didnt try this one do you think itll work for bmp as well?
[10:51] <robotgeek> my laptop has an eraser head?
[10:51] <s4f3_m0d3> robotgeek, stick for mouse movment
[10:52] <s4f3_m0d3> ya know, old skool
[10:52] <danst> I already downloaded all dev pgs avail, and i would love to write a howto but I cant compile it theres always this error ../immscore/xidle.cc:50: error: `display' undeclared (first use this function) (and some more...)
[10:52] <sedat> anyone noticed their touchpad movement is way too fast?
[10:52] <brenner> danst: sorry...thought you solved it and wanted to tell us. :)
[10:52] <robotgeek> sedat: can change that
[10:52] <concept10> danst: It wouldnt hurt to try, if it doesnt work just remove the deb.  Some/most XMMS plugins work with BMP, some dont.
[10:53] <danst> concept10: ok ill try that
[10:53] <sedat> sliders dont have too much effect, affects my mouse only it seems
[10:53] <heatxsink> Redactech:  I am
[10:53] <heatxsink> Redactech:  I did
[10:54] <umar> hi everyone
[10:54] <sedat> slm
[10:55] <derek_> umar shareef
[10:55] <dskloet> I got my X working by changing the font paths in xorg.conf but gnome doesn't start (breezy). Anyone?
[10:55] <danst> concept10: streamripper rox
[10:55] <pwlogin>  ?
[10:55] <Redactech> If nobody have problem with updating their breezy I must suppose the problem comes with me...
[10:55] <umar> i need help regarding modem drivers
[10:55] <umar> i have conexant HCF modem
[10:55] <umar> i downloaded drivers from linuxant
[10:56] <z|bandito> does ubuntu natively support clustering via open mozix or something similar?
[10:56] <umar> but i dont have linuxant license key and modem is operatin on 14.4 kbps
[10:56] <sedat> mount tool gui recommendations anyone?
[10:56] <umar> anone can help me ?
[10:56] <concept10> danst: yes, it does.. im about to rip about 6 streams at one time until it fills the drive :)
[10:56] <umar> ?
[10:57] <danst> ;-)
[10:58] <umar> anyone can tell me the solution for linuxant license key/
[10:58] <umar> ??
[10:58] <robotgeek> sedat: gnome-applet okay?
[10:58] <brenner> umar: er, buy the key?
[10:59] <brenner> license even
[10:59] <thoreauputic> umar: off topic - pay them or change modems
[10:59] <umar> it is said linux is free
[10:59] <umar> then y is this
[11:00] <thoreauputic> umar: free as in Freedom, not price
[11:00] <umar> i have already payed for modem
[11:00] <ycul> hi everyone
[11:00] <brenner> blame the company that made the winmodem
[11:00] <umar> y do i pay for drivers now
[11:00] <Madpilot> umar: so contact the company...
[11:00] <concept10> danst: do you use audioscrobbler?
[11:01] <umar> there is not any kind of hacking the key
[11:01] <concept10> with BMP
[11:01] <Redactech> umar : comon
[11:01] <heatxsink> is there a way of speeding up ubuntu's bootup?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> umar: complain to the people who won't release specifications, not to the GNU/Linux community
[11:01] <ycul> hi
[11:01] <heatxsink> it always pauses on Configuring Network Interfaces
[11:01] <apsync> hi, I have just installed ubuntu, he asked me to create a user with password i said yes etc etc, but now, what's the password for root?
[11:01] <heatxsink> either that, or eliminating my modem from that step?
[11:01] <Madpilot> apsync: so root by default....
[11:01] <ycul> wat are this stuff alll about?
[11:01] <umar> means u ppl cant help me
[11:01] <Madpilot> !tell apsync about root
[11:01] <apsync> thank you
[11:02] <thoreauputic> umar: you were told: cracking is off-topic here
[11:02] <thenuke> !tell thenuke about root
[11:02] <Madpilot> apsync: sorry, meant to say "no root by default"... read ubotu's msg, anyway!
[11:02] <bmgz> I got a problem with Cinelerra 2.0 : mpeg2enc.plugin is missing..
[11:02] <umar> tell me where should i go to talk abt this topic
[11:02] <sedat> cnn
[11:03] <sedat> people do care ''
[11:03] <apsync> Ok, so root is disabled, then in shell, when I type 'su' it asks me for a password, what is that password then?
[11:03] <thoreauputic> umar: write to your modem manufacturer and politely ask them to release specifications so that the community can write drivers for their product
[11:03] <Redactech> apsync use sudo instead
[11:04] <Madpilot> apsync: the sudo pw is your user pw
[11:04] <apsync> I see, thank you
[11:04] <Redactech> and then your user password
[11:04] <heatxsink> ???
[11:04] <apsync> one more thing, is gcc installed by default?
[11:05] <Redactech> no
[11:05] <Redactech> apt-get update gcc
[11:05] <thoreauputic> apsync: it's on the disk - install build-essential
[11:05] <Redactech> apt-get install gcc
[11:05] <apsync> Ok :-)
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Redactech: no, build-essential
[11:05] <thenuke> apsync: apt-get install build-essential instead of gcc
[11:05] <Redactech> yes master
[11:06] <apsync> ok
[11:06] <sedat> qtparted error committing device, this means trouble right?
[11:06] <galorin> I've just installed kubuntu onto a Sony Vaio, VGN-a115b.  I've tried googling, but no results on this.  When shutting down, the machine does not power off completely.  Holding down the power button is needed to turn it off completely.
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Redactech: the point is, installing gcc by itself is not enough - hence build-essential
[11:06] <Redactech> galorin : www.laptop-linux.net
[11:07] <pc2> hi
[11:07] <pc2> asl pls
[11:07] <Redactech> thoreauputic: why so ?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Redactech: build-essential pulls in stuff like "make" and other bits needed to compile things (metapackage)
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Redactech: it's just a convenient short-cut :)
[11:09] <[LethAL] > Is there a way I can resize the extended partition that Ubuntu is on?
[11:09] <[LethAL] > I.e. I have 3 other primary partitions
[11:09] <brenner> Redactech: does that site you gave exist?
[11:09] <Redactech> thoreauputic: I compile thing from time to time and never had to install anything else than gcc
[11:09] <nightswim> w
[11:10] <rcc> j
[11:10] <pc2> hi
[11:10] <galorin> Redactech, no entyr for the laptop there.  and it's linux-laptop.net
[11:10] <p0windah> any ubuntu users here that are also toontown users ? and have it working under ubuntu ?
[11:10] <thoreauputic> Redactech: well, the better advice is to install buid-essential (ask any debian/ubuntu person) - but whatever worked for you
[11:10] <rcc> sds
[11:10] <rcc> huy
[11:11] <sedat> non-free programs can't end up in repositories?
[11:11] <p0windah> they end up in non-free repositories
[11:12] <Redactech> thanks thoreau I'll do that
[11:12] <pc2> rethh
[11:12] <Redactech> but that doesn't help me with my update problem howhever
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Redactech: just one of those distro specific oddities ;-)
[11:13] <Quadiagen> anyone know how I can change what GRUB boots by default
[11:13] <Quadiagen> I am dual-booting XP and ubuntu
[11:13] <[LethAL] > Quadiagen, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:14] <[LethAL] > Probably number for
[11:14] <[LethAL] > 4
[11:14] <Quadiagen> k, thx
[11:14] <[LethAL] > Since I keep putting it on 3 and "Other operating systems" isn't an OS ;)
[11:15] <Redactech> thoreauputic :  sigh
[11:15] <pc2> punkgirl
[11:15] <sedat> gui mounting tool available in ubuntu? if not, please reccoment one
[11:15] <galorin> sedat, what's giving you difficulty?
[11:15] <pc2> hi
[11:15] <Redactech> sedat : try the instructions in the ubuntuguide.org
[11:16] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[11:16] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:17] <thoreauputic> !faq
[11:17] <ubotu> I heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[11:17] <Redactech> the instruction about mounting are OK
[11:17] <Madpilot> !+mount
[11:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[11:17] <brenner> heh.....isnt that saying: ubguide is bad, but we're gonna use it as a base in breezy!
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Redactech: yes, lots of the ubuntuguide stuff is OK - that factoid is a bit harsh
[11:18] <brenner> it also doesn't recommend any other help avenues...ie the wiki
[11:18] <derek[] > "mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem"
[11:18] <kakalto> LOL
[11:18] <derek[] > lol
[11:18] <kakalto> ubuntu installer is bugged!
[11:18] <[LethAL] > O.o
[11:18] <kakalto> buggy
[11:18] <Redactech> he is asking about a gui thing
[11:18] <kakalto> hah!
[11:19] <bdude1992> hi
[11:19] <kakalto> I entered a password, enters
[11:19] <kakalto> gah
[11:19] <crimsun> kakalto: that's not incorrect, it's just not quite spoon-feeding
[11:19] <thoreauputic> brenner: apparently the author of ubuntuguide wasapproached but doesn't want to co-operate with the doc team , as I understand it
[11:19] <_rb_> okay peeps. whats the deal with "XF86VidModeModeInfo" ? Where do i get it ?
[11:19] <kakalto> I entered a password, entered a different pass for the second time. rinse & repeat another two times, now I can't add users, methinks
[11:19] <sedat> fstabbing/mounting  i manged to do, but i don't like the terminal so would be good to have a configurable gui tool to do it for me
[11:19] <robotgeek> sedat: right click -> add to panel -> drive mount applet
[11:20] <crimsun> kakalto: you _are_ technically _adding_ a partition to your visible filesystems
[11:20] <ycul> hi
[11:20] <kakalto> crimsun, huh?
[11:20] <brenner> sedat: if you've got fstab set up, you can use the gnome applet to mount them
[11:20] <brenner> iirc
[11:20] <sedat> aah
[11:20] <sedat> i see
[11:20] <crimsun> kakalto: regarding "mount"
[11:21] <ycul> hey
[11:21] <kakalto> crimsun, I wasn't LOLing at that
[11:21] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:21] <kakalto> that was a coincidence
[11:21] <_rb_> anyone able to tell me where i get XF86VidModeModeInfo from ?
[11:21] <crimsun> kakalto: ah, sorry
[11:21] <kakalto> :)
[11:21] <sedat> thx everybody
[11:21] <brenner> thoreauputic: who exactl is the doc team anyway?
[11:21] <kakalto> I think the ubuntu installer is a little screwy
[11:21] <brenner> *exactly
[11:21] <sedat> but will continue to bug yall so dont think u got rid of me that easily
[11:22] <sedat> kaka+1
[11:22] <robotgeek> brenner: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects
[11:22] <brenner> ah. :)
[11:22] <thoreauputic> brenner: there an ubuntu-doc mailing list - I think Jerome Gotangco (sp) ? co-ordinates the team
[11:22] <derek[] > bbl
[11:22] <ycul> hi
[11:22] <nalioth> brenner: always causing trouble, it seems, lol
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:23] <apokryphos> ycul: stop
[11:23] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:23] <robotgeek> i don't understand these ppl
[11:23] <apokryphos> robotgeek: just an eager beaver 8)
[11:23] <heatxsink> anyone have any idea what to search for that edits in what order things boot up and how?
[11:23] <sedat> humans are more compicated than robots
[11:23] <heatxsink> search the ubuntu wiki of course
[11:24] <topyli> yeah, humans suck
[11:24] <[LethAL] > Any know how can I resize my extended partition which contains this here Ubuntu installation? I'm single-booting atm.
[11:24] <robotgeek> sedat: u think u've got me all figured out, :)
[11:24] <brenner> nalioth: not fast enough it seems
[11:24] <[LethAL] > sedat, only fttb
[11:24] <p0windah> does ubuntu have an rc.d gui manager ? or is there talk of one ?
[11:24] <p0windah> robotgeek: botsnack
[11:24] <p0windah> :)
[11:24] <sedat> Fiber To The Building?
[11:25] <brenner> p0windah: rcconf iirc
[11:25] <[LethAL] > For the time being
[11:25] <topyli> p0windah: sysv-rc-conf is pretty nice. it's a console gui :)
[11:25] <p0windah> you know what I mean though, something pretty for gnome
[11:25] <p0windah> real men use cat and echo for all config changes
[11:26] <topyli> lazy people prefer awk and sed
[11:26] <robotgeek> or vi
[11:27] <p0windah> too esy
[11:28] <bob2> heatxsink: /usr/share/doc/sysvrc
[11:28] <bob2> heatxsink: it's usually a bad idea to reorder things, tho; things have dependencies that my not be obvious, and the ubuntu and debian developers have set them the way they are for a reason
[11:28] <sedat> real men are independent
[11:29] <heatxsink> bob2:  any idea why that starting network interfaces takes so damned long?
[11:29] <apsync> hi, I have just added a application using "Add Applications", how can I remove an application ?
[11:30] <bob2> heatxsink: because your dhcp server sucks or is not connected
[11:30] <heatxsink> ahh
[11:30] <bob2> apsync: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:30] <heatxsink> I bet my eth0 one is the one that's jacke dup
[11:30] <apsync> thank you
[11:30] <sedat> same place
[11:30] <kakalto> has anyone else had issues with the 5.04 install process, where, when making a user/password, and you enter a different password each time it asks, it just cycles around without making a user?
[11:30] <sedat> untick the boxes
[11:30] <Hoxzer> I have problem with azureus, before it opened a icon on top of the screen but now it only creates second window named by "Unknow window"
[11:30] <bob2> kakalto: you mean it fails to work if you later enter matching passwords?
[11:30] <kakalto> I mean, even when you enter the same password after the first time or two
[11:31] <kakalto> yeah
[11:31] <Hoxzer> how could I get the icon back to top of the screen?
[11:31] <bob2> that'd be a bug, tho I haven't heard of it
[11:31] <kakalto> I'm just wondering whether I should bother reporting it, or has it been fixed in the recent pre-releases
[11:31] <bob2> kakalto: the bts does list fixed bugs, too...
[11:32] <kakalto> what's the 'bts'?
[11:32] <topyli> kakalto: if it is a bug, it's a bug in a supported release. so yes, you should file it
[11:32] <sedat> free space on drive should be checked too btw
[11:32] <bob2> kakalto: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:32] <kakalto> righto
[11:32] <faked> bug tracking system=bts
[11:34] <brownie17> nalioth, you about?
[11:34] <hussam> When I try to login using session type failsafe, I get this error:
[11:34] <hussam>  Xsession: unable to launch failsafe x session ---x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting
[11:34] <hussam> .
[11:34] <hussam> anybody knows how to fix that?
[11:35] <slept> install xterm
[11:35] <nalioth> brownie17: yes i am
[11:35] <enchanter> How to suspend/resume?
[11:35] <nalioth> brownie17: you left last night too quickly for me to tell you about gaim
[11:35] <brownie17> nalioth, oh ok. sorry. what can you tell me/
[11:35] <hussam> slept: that message for me?
[11:36] <enchanter> I hope to press "Fn-F1" to make it suspend. But it does not work on my laptop
[11:36] <slept> hussam, yes, what do you want to do ?
[11:36] <nalioth> brownie17: open a terminal and type "gaim -a"
[11:36] <apsync> is it possible to use mouse4 button (back) and mouse5 button (next) on my mouse in Ubuntu? Since it's a Microsoft I dont think there are drivers for Ubuntu...
[11:36] <wrtpeeps> hi?
[11:37] <derek[] > its a question?
[11:37] <sedat> o yea, any webcam enabled IM compatible wit MSN ?
[11:37] <hussam> slept: ok I'll try installing xterm
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> when i try to run americas army, i get the following error:
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> anyone know which pakcage i have to install
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> (i have installed nvidia-glx)
[11:37] <[LethAL] > Did you enable it?
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> how do i do that?
[11:37] <slept> enchanter, you  have to do apm --suspend ,  if that works you can make a keybinding for that somewhere in the gnome menu
[11:37] <[LethAL] > I dunno, someone will
[11:38] <Juhaz> apsync, you can get those buttonpresses detected, but almost no application will do anything with them
[11:38] <wrtpeeps> anyone know how i enable nvidia-glx package?
[11:38] <enchanter> slept, thanks, I will try it
[11:38] <apsync> ah, Ok :-)
[11:38] <markuman> hey,,, xfce crashed and now i cant clickt right on desktop?! what should i start so that works again?
[11:38] <faked> wrtpeeps: m-a ai nvidia
[11:38] <bob2> wrtpeeps: that's in the FAQ
[11:38] <bob2> wrtpeeps: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <siimo> anyone know why my partitions listed in fstab dont show up in nautilus 2.12 ? only my usb key and cdrw drive shows up
[11:39] <wrtpeeps> thanks  bob2 and faked
[11:39] <aroma> anybody could assit me how to install my webcam does all webcams supported by linux
[11:40] <brownie17> nalioth, still doesn't show up in the panel thinger, like next to the clock.
[11:40] <workstation4> hi!!!!
[11:40] <Majst0r> Hey, ppl! Anyone knows which distribution of Ubuntu will work on a powerbook g4?
[11:40] <nalioth> brownie17: you enabled it in the manu?
[11:40] <lynlyn> hui\
[11:40] <lynlyn> hi
[11:41] <lynlyn> wana chat???????????
[11:41] <robotgeek> lynlyn: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <workstation4> can anybody give me some info on how to install webcams on Linux???
[11:41] <lynlyn> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:41] <robotgeek> Majst0r: ubuntu works on a powerbook g4, but is it a new one
[11:41] <nalioth> Majst0r: any of them
[11:41] <Hoxzer> I need to get my azureus back to bar :E
[11:41] <k0p> I have no sound :| @  Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)   help me please :\
[11:41] <Majst0r> robotgeek: No.. Not a new one.
[11:41] <nalioth> Majst0r: any of them
[11:41] <Majst0r> It won't boot.
[11:42] <crimsun> k0p: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[11:42] <lynlyn> helloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:42] <slept> siimo, they are mounted somewhere (look at mountpoint), they are in your filesystem
[11:42] <nalioth> magnon: even when you hold the "c" key or "alt-option"?
[11:42] <crimsun> lynlyn: we read you.
[11:42] <Majst0r> I tried holding the "c"..
[11:42] <nalioth> Majst0r: even when you hold the "c" key or "alt-option"?
[11:42] <lynlyn> how are you?
[11:42] <brownie17> nalioth: what do i enable? "man gaim" deoes not give me much worth doing
[11:42] <Majst0r> But what's the alt-option?
[11:42] <Hoxzer> what is my problem if azureus creates two windows on start up and doesn't create icon to the bar :E
[11:42] <[LethAL] > lynlyn, This isn't for chatting, this is for helping
[11:42] <nalioth> lynlyn: this is a help channel, not a social one. please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:42] <siimo> slept, yes but i could see these as "drives" in nautilus computer  in the previous version
[11:43] <k0p> crimsun, 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[11:43] <crimsun> k0p: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:43] <sedat> aroma
[11:43] <lynlyn> sorry
[11:43] <slept> siimo, if they are mounted things are perfect,  what are you looking for ?
[11:44] <siimo> slept, i want to see them as drives under computer
[11:44] <k0p> crimsun, well, I haven't machine here :(
[11:45] <sedat> aroma: libmimic maybe?
[11:45] <brownie17> nalioth, i'll just reinstall GAIM, dw
[11:45] <nalioth> brownie17: do an "sudo apt-get --purge remove gaim"
[11:45] <sedat> what does purge do?
[11:45] <slept> siimo, why ? the concept of mounting things is very nice , you can change mountpoints to fit your needs ,eg to your homedir
[11:45] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:46] <slept> sedat, remove the config
[11:46] <nalioth> sedat: removes config files
[11:46] <siimo> slept, because i dont have it mounted all the time
[11:46] <brownie17> nalioth, yep it's all done. have you figured out my quake problem yet?
[11:46] <siimo> so its easy to mount/umountt if i had a drive icons there
[11:46] <nalioth> brownie17: waiting on you, my friend
[11:47] <slept> siimo, and thats the way you want things to be ? If you want them to be mounted remove the noauto in fstab
[11:47] <gerarcone> how can i do to eliminate the sound when i open ubuntu? i tried to eliminate the sound for the login in the audio dialog but it still doesn't work
[11:47] <siimo> ok
[11:47] <BockBilbo> i have 2 continuous ext3 partitions on my HD, the first one with data and the second one with no data. Is it possible to convert then two into just one ext3 partition with the data of the first one?
[11:48] <siimo> another thing thats missing is Menu > Run
[11:48] <sedat> lol
[11:48] <sedat> menu run
[11:48] <BockBilbo> siimo, do alt+f2
[11:48] <brownie17> nalioth, well i'm ready to start quaking. got any hints?
[11:48] <sedat> ull get to enter more commands then ull want
[11:49] <great_lookz> does anybody here knows how to install webcams on ubuntu
[11:49] <slept> BockBilbo, you can install lvm
[11:49] <sedat> great lookz
[11:49] <siimo> BockBilbo, nice :)
[11:49] <gerarcone> nobody can help me?
[11:49] <gerarcone> :(
[11:49] <nalioth> brownie17: watch your screen
[11:49] <BockBilbo> slept, what does it do?
[11:49] <sedat> theres something like libmimic i heard
[11:49] <apsync> I still have winxp on my hd1(master) and ubuntu on hd2(slave), how can I browse my master HD ?
[11:49] <kemik> !tell apsync about ntfs
[11:49] <hussam> I reinstalled xterm but I still can't log in to failsafe session. It still complains about x-terminal
[11:50] <apsync> thank you
[11:50] <gwenks> hey guys, i need some hep
[11:50] <gwenks> help
[11:50] <great_lookz> how will i install webcam on Linux
[11:50] <sedat> http://www.jblinux.net/libmimic/ => msn thingy
[11:50] <p0windah> great_lookz: hang on
[11:50] <gwenks> i just recently installed ubuntu
[11:50] <sedat> i think
[11:50] <[LethAL] > Could someone tell me where should I put a modeline in xorg.conf again?
[11:50] <gwenks> but when I tried to open the browser
[11:50] <p0windah> great_lookz: what kind of webcam and what version of ubuntu ?
[11:50] <slept> BockBilbo, you can put partitions together to   volume and then create  small volumes inside, they can be shrinked ore grown , its great
[11:51] <gwenks> It wont open
[11:51] <gwenks> and disapperas in the taskbar
[11:51] <great_lookz> A4 tech webcam and 5.1 version Ubuntu version
[11:52] <sedat> logitech quickcam over here
[11:52] <BockBilbo> thanks slept
[11:52] <p0windah> great_lookz: search google for "breezy a4 tech webcam" and click on the first match....
[11:52] <p0windah> great_lookz: which you really shouldnt need to be told
[11:53] <gwenks> yap me too
[11:53] <BockBilbo> sedat, does your qc work on ubuntu?
[11:53] <gwenks> logitech webcam
[11:53] <great_lookz> ok ill try
[11:53] <p0windah> great_lookz: then from there, start hunting around the forums
[11:53] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[11:53] <VoX> how do i go about installing 32-bit libs on an amd64?
[11:53] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2246
[11:53] <Hoxzer> I have problem: some time ago azurues opened icon on top of the screen bar now days it creates second window that has that icon
[11:53] <great_lookz> and then?
[11:53] <NiLz> why is my ext3 fs mounted as ext2?
[11:53] <sedat> searching for it now
[11:53] <NiLz> + i have an error on startup
[11:53] <slept> BockBilbo, ask ubotu or dpkg for a howto , and if you decide to make your whole disk lvm , keep round 50MB for boot which mustnt be lvm
[11:53] <VoX> nilz: what error
[11:53] <sedat> looks like somebody took it
[11:53] <sedat> so cant test
[11:53] <dazvid> Are there any programs I can use to record video from a webcam?
[11:53] <thoreauputic> NiLz: it satarts as ext2 - then adds the journal
[11:54] <p0windah> great_lookz: if you arent prepared to read, what makes you think people in here are gonna do it for you ?
[11:54] <ulisse> I have a strange behaviour with Nautilus, I want to know if it happens to others too, before opening a bug
[11:54] <NiLz> that e2fsck is unable to do smth, cause the fs has some unsupported features
[11:54] <thoreauputic> NiLz: ext3 is just ext2 + journalling
[11:54] <NiLz> and I have to press ctrl+d to continue with booting
[11:54] <apsync> seems like I can't play mp3's, where can I find the standard codecs for ubuntu?
[11:54] <ulisse> my Nautilus speaks italian, but after midnight it becomes englis...
[11:54] <NiLz> thoreauputic: the journalling is pretty essential :)
[11:54] <sedat> lol
[11:54] <NiLz> thoreauputic: I mean speedwise
[11:54] <VoX> ulisse: heh that's a bit odd
[11:54] <apsync> "There were no decoders found"
[11:54] <walde> NiLz, what is the errormessage during bootup?
[11:54] <gwenks> how am I going to install yahoo messenger??
[11:54] <great_lookz> ok thanks anyway
[11:54] <BockBilbo> thanks slept gonna google about it
[11:55] <brownie17> ulisse, simple solution: "go to bed earlier :)"
[11:55] <NiLz> walde: lemme check the dmesg, 1 sec
[11:55] <thoreauputic> NiLz: yes, journalling is nice to have, indeed :)
[11:55] <gwenks> yahoo says i have to go to "RooT" and type a certain command
[11:56] <sedat> terminal = sudo before every command
[11:56] <galorin> gwenks, I've found GAIM to be a good program, that speaks Yahoo
[11:56] <ulisse> brownie17, VoX, so I think it happens only to me...
[11:56] <gwenks> how am i going to the root and type a certain command
[11:56] <_rb_> how do i fix cirular dependencies with apt-get ?
[11:56] <sedat> gwenks, put sudo and the the command
[11:56] <NiLz> walde: ah. well can't find it in the dmesg, anyway it says something about my filesystem which has some unsupported features and that I should get a newer version of e2fsck there's a shell
[11:56] <NiLz> and I need to press ctrl+d to continue booting
[11:56] <sedat> sudo apt-get ... for instance
[11:56] <thoreauputic> _rb_: should not happen unless your /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong
[11:57] <apsync> how can I test my sound is working?
[11:57] <walde> NiLz, just an idea. Do you compiled a new kernel without ext3?
[11:57] <p0windah> :)
[11:57] <[LethAL] > apsync, Play a sound?
[11:57] <apsync> yes.
[11:57] <apsync> not working
[11:57] <thoreauputic> apsync: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[11:57] <apsync> maybe codecs?
[11:57] <_rb_> trying to install cinelerra
[11:57] <[LethAL] > You might need to turn it up, Ubuntu is quiet
[11:57] <thoreauputic> apsync: that should make a noise
[11:57] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:58] <sedat> i guess the same questions get asked about 100 times a day not?
[11:58] <thoreauputic> sedat: pretty much, yes :)
[11:58] <BockBilbo> is it possible to umount  a swap partition?
[11:58] <apsync> hmm
[11:58] <p0windah> yup
[11:59] <gwenks> galorin: GAIM? but how can show my list of contcts?
[11:59] <p0windah> BockBilbo: swapoff the partition and then set your swappiness to 0
[12:00] <apsync> seems like my sound is not working or I am missing mp3/avi codecs
[12:00] <gwenks> where am i going to get the SUDO? im no that technical.. thnks
[12:00] <BockBilbo> p0windah, where do i set my swappiness to 0?
[12:00] <thoreauputic> !tell apsync about codecs
[12:00] <galorin> gwenks, it'll show all of the ones currently online, and in toolspreferences you can set it to see all the offline ones too.
[12:00] <p0windah> its in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[12:00] <BockBilbo> thanks
[12:00] <sedat> startmenu - aids - terminal
[12:00] <pluffsy> hello
[12:00] <sedat> or something like that
[12:00] <BockBilbo> i gues just a cat 0>/proc/sys/vm/swappiness right?
[12:01] <sedat> startmenu is lefttop corner of screen
[12:01] <pluffsy> I can't seem to get this character:  on top of another character as I can on other OS:es. how do I solve that?
[12:01] <galorin> gwenks, sorry, under buddies
[12:01] <p0windah> BockBilbo: yeah, do that for testing first. if its all good use vm.swappiness=0 in /etc/sysctlo.conf
[12:01] <BockBilbo> ok
[12:01] <sedat> then you can type the command yahoo thing asks you to
[12:01] <pluffsy> it turns out like this when I try: emile
[12:01] <sedat> you cant go gui-root afaik
[12:01] <p0windah> BockBilbo: I dont need to tell you that you should have enough ram so this wont cause problems
[12:02] <crimsun> pluffsy: add the character pallet utility to your panel
[12:02] <crimsun> pluffsy: and/or set a compose key
[12:02] <BockBilbo> p0windah, i have 1 Gb
[12:02] <BockBilbo> ;)
[12:02] <pluffsy> crimsun, what is a compose key?
[12:02] <p0windah> BockBilbo: and use echo "0" >,... not cat 0
[12:02] <BockBilbo> p0windah, yeah.. it was my bad
[12:03] <BockBilbo> cat is to read, echo its to print in screen
[12:03] <BockBilbo> :S
[12:03] <BockBilbo> brb
[12:03] <dazvid> Are there any programs I can use to record video from a webcam?
[12:03] <NiLz> walde: nope, I'm using a stock kernel
[12:03] <crimsun> pluffsy: it's a key that allows you to use the extended chars (hence the "compose" name)
[12:03] <_rb_> anyone able to help me ? i need xf86vidmode for cinelerra. cant find it anywhere
[12:03] <NiLz> walde: + my / and /boot are mounted as ext3
[12:03] <crimsun> pluffsy: like this->
[12:04] <sedat> anyone got to play cs:source under ubntu???
[12:04] <NiLz> walde: this one partition which has these proublems was not formatted during the setup
[12:04] <dazvid> sedat: I surely need to
[12:04] <p0windah> I tried with ati, no dice
[12:04] <NiLz> walde: and it was created in fedora core
[12:04] <NiLz> walde: so I suspect it might have something to do with SElinux
[12:04] <crimsun> pluffsy: for instance, under System> Preferences> Keyboard> Layout Options> Compose key position, I set the right Ctrl on my UK keyboard to be compose
[12:05] <gwenks> galorin: what is the "SCREEN Name for?" is it my user name?
[12:05] <crimsun> pluffsy: then to make the , I hold Compose and type ', then I type e
[12:05] <p0windah> anyone here involved with asian localisation efforts and know whether alternate input methods are on the books for ubuntu in the future ?
[12:05] <sedat> yep
[12:05] <sedat> gwenkz
[12:06] <sedat> your nickname
[12:06] <galorin> gwenks, yes it is
[12:06] <apsync> I don't have gstreamer0.8-mad (in Synaptic) like it says on the webpage
[12:07] <nalioth> !tell apsync about sources
[12:07] <nooB> sir i need help on installing ubuntu iso installer? why isnt it booting in my cd drive?
[12:07] <gwenks> galorin: thank yu
[12:07] <sedat> bios
[12:07] <sedat> startup order nooB
[12:08] <apsync> nalioth, in which package is it?
[12:08] <robzon> woohoo! amarok 1.3.1 in breezy :)
[12:08] <sedat> or try pressing del, f10, f12 and so on during bios spash screen
[12:08] <ubuntu_> weeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:08] <sedatc> I have downloaded a package named 'lale' by adding an extra repository but it couldnt manage to install it . When I try to delete extra rep I added my SPM says 'I have to reinstall lale but I couldnt find an archive for it'
[12:08] <dazvid> How can I get ubuntu to recognise a USB webcam?
[12:08] <nalioth> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:08] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[12:09] <crimsun> dazvid: plug it in
[12:09] <dazvid> I did ;)
[12:09] <p0windah> heh
[12:09] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me how to install games here
[12:09] <nalioth> sedatc: using unofficial repos is a recipe for a dead box
[12:09] <sedatc> since I couldnt update ubuntu
[12:09] <apsync> hmmm.. universe libs
[12:09] <gwenks> galorin thnks
[12:09] <nalioth> ubuntu_: use synaptic and look in the "games" section
[12:09] <galorin> ubuntu_, which games?
[12:09] <sedatc> nalioth, what can I do now
[12:09] <galorin> gwenks, np
[12:10] <sedatc> nalioth, I think the repo is trustful
[12:10] <nalioth> sedatc: remove that URL from your sources.list, reload your apt and hope things aint screwed
[12:10] <gwenks> galorin, but why is it that at always says " Disconnected"
[12:11] <nalioth> sedatc: paste your sources.list to a pastebin, please
[12:11] <sedatc> nalioth, how to reload apt
[12:11] <nalioth> sedatc: "sudo apt-get update"
[12:11] <sedatc> nalioth, I did this
[12:11] <nalioth> sedatc: and what errors did you get?
[12:11] <sedat> opera is in the multiverse repositories rite?
[12:12] <galorin> gwenks, you offline, or others offline?
[12:12] <yonil> How do i set a remote printer (on a windows machine) - i've tried setting it, but printing doesnt work. specificaly, what should i set in the username and password fields ?
[12:12] <nalioth> sedat: get opera from its homepage
[12:12] <sedatc> nalioth,  I get an error like I said above 'I have to reinstall lale but couldnt find an archive'
[12:12] <lastnode> any reccomendations for dtp apps for ubuntu?
[12:12] <nalioth> sedatc: so remove lale
[12:12] <gwenks> galorin, no im not
[12:12] <ompaul> sedat, put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:13] <sedatc> nalioth, When I try it says the package is in a very inconsistent state
[12:13] <nalioth> lastnode: ubotu loves you
[12:13] <walde> NiLz, thats seems to be a tricky problem. Hope this can help you<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:13] <sedat> i did, but the installer needs a Motif thingy
[12:13] <galorin> gwenks, tools>accounts and check online and auto-login
[12:13] <sedat> got it to install +/-
[12:13] <nalioth> sedatc: it will remove
[12:14] <sedat> it has something to do with the static thing being compiled under freebsd
[12:14] <ompaul> lastnode,  scribus
[12:14] <sedat> still no mozolla plugin support
[12:15] <ompaul> sedat, you have been asked to put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/    <<< this should help a lot in diagnosing your problems
[12:15] <sedat> *sedatc or sedat?
[12:15] <ompaul> sedat, ahhhhh that make sense  :)
[12:16] <nooB> can anyone help me, how can i install the ubuntu iso. into my comp after burning it. it seems not booting into my system
[12:16] <nooB> pls help me.
[12:16] <sedat> nooB u need to get a bios option screen
[12:16] <p0windah> nooB: have you double checked your BIOS allows booting from CD ?
[12:17] <sedat> ull need screwdriver and some solder equipment
[12:17] <nalioth> ompaul: c'mon man, cant you tell your sedat* from your sedat* ?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> nooB: did you check your BIOS boot order as suggested?
[12:17] <nalioth> ompaul: ;)
[12:17] <nooB> yes i did, pardon but what a bios setup screen? thanks for the help.
[12:17] <Kuolio> nooB: you need to make a bootable cd from .iso, not just burn that .iso on a data cd, have you done that?
[12:17] <yonil> I try changing the username/ password field in a printer settings and it wont let me .. it doesnt save the new values
[12:18] <ompaul> nalioth, na - its (A) too early  and (B) not enough coffee installed yet :), good morning to you
[12:18] <sedat> get deepburner if your on windows
[12:18] <nalioth> ompaul: howdy do
[12:18] <rawler> heya! anyone knows about libavcodec, and if there is a package that fixes the problems?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> nooB: if you look at the contents of the CD do you see one file, or a whole bunch of files?
[12:18] <lastnode> when i do get-apt install tor, and run it
[12:18] <lastnode> "i get acting on config options left us in a broken state. dying"
[12:18] <apsync> hi, how can I check that my sound is on mute or not?
[12:18] <ompaul> nalioth, other than that, lots of plans (short ones) for today
[12:18] <nalioth> lastnode: we are not a tor help channel
[12:19] <thoreauputic> apsync: type alsamixer in a terminal
[12:19] <nooB> yes i did, using nero. then what after booting. i cant see any saetup.exe like in windows
[12:19] <sedatc> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2247
[12:19] <nooB> setup.exe
[12:19] <thoreauputic> apsync: m to toggle mute/unmute
[12:19] <sedat> restart
[12:19] <ompaul> nooB, there is no exe in Linux
[12:19] <p0windah> nooB: when it reboots, it will automatically start running
[12:19] <lastnode> nalioth: heh, sorry ill ask in #tor
[12:19] <p0windah> nooB: it is very different from what windows looks like
[12:19] <ompaul> nooB, reboot and leave the disk in there
[12:20] <thoreauputic> nooB: you might have just dumped the .iso on the disk instead of burning it as an image
[12:20] <gwenks> YAHOOOOOO ....................... Thank you so much Galorin
[12:20] <gwenks> one more thing galorin
[12:20] <nooB> how will i burn it as an image thoreauputic????? thanks
[12:20] <ompaul> nooB have you rebooted since you burnt the disk?
[12:20] <walde> nooB, you know, that you cant easily install linux into a running window-filesystem? You need extra partitions for that.
[12:21] <nalioth> sedatc: are you familiar with compiling?
[12:21] <benuk> hey
[12:21] <nooB> yes. then it booted like DOS ompaul
[12:21] <thoreauputic> nooB: I'm not familiar with windows burning apps, but you need to burn it as an image
[12:21] <lastnode> there is no man entry for "talk" or "ktalk"
[12:21] <sedat> try DeepBurner.com
[12:21] <lastnode> can i apt get these
[12:21] <lastnode> ?
[12:21] <sedat> can't go wrong there
[12:21] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, it trys to load etc/hotplug/usb.rc and hangs
[12:21] <benuk> anyone know why?
[12:22] <p0windah> it doesnt like one of your devices ?
[12:22] <gwenks> maybe NERO could be more efficient
[12:22] <ari_> where in the wiki are breezy post-update commands?
[12:22] <nalioth> benuk: have you md5d your iso image/ burnt disc?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> nooB: if when you look at the disk in windows, you see only one file, then you burnt it the wrong way
[12:22] <nalioth> ari_: breezy post update commands are none
[12:22] <sedat> http://www.deepburner.com/pr.php?image=images/screen1.gif burn iso option
[12:22] <VoX> how do i get a specific ubuntu 32-bit lib?
[12:22] <benuk> nalioth: yep
[12:22] <nalioth> ari_: your breezy will let you know when it need updating
[12:23] <ompaul> nooB, then what happened?
[12:23] <ari_> ok, thanks
[12:23] <nalioth> benuk: and they check out?
[12:23] <ompaul> nooB, that is the start of the install
[12:23] <benuk> yeah
[12:23] <pwlogin>   ?
[12:23] <nalioth> benuk: other than burning the cd at a slower speed, the only other thing i can offer is: is the hardwar functional?
[12:24] <VoX> how do i get ubuntu to install a 32-bit lib that i need on an amd64 system?
[12:24] <benuk> windows works
[12:24] <nooB> thats it it just stayed on a:\ like in DOS
[12:24] <benuk> on it atm
[12:24] <ompaul> it stayed on A:\ emm that is not ubuntu
[12:24] <VoX> anyone?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> VoX: you will need a chroot to use 32 bit stuff on amd64, if you are using the amd64 Ubuntu
[12:25] <lastnode> lots of packages want libcap0.7
[12:25] <VoX> thoreauputic: yeah, but how do i get the 32-bit package?
[12:25] <nalioth> VoX: or you use apt to compile the lib for your box (preferred method)
[12:25] <lastnode> but it cant find it on universe
[12:25] <lastnode> suggestions?
[12:25] <nalioth> lastnode: enable all your repos
[12:25] <lastnode> that's in /etc/apt ?
[12:25] <ompaul> !tell lastnode about repos
[12:26] <nooB> its in winrar format 1st then i unzipped it then i burned it. its that the proper way to burn an iso isaw many files.
[12:26] <ompaul> lastnode, you can use synaptic to do some of the work like I just had the bot tell you
[12:26] <nalioth> nooB: no dont unrar it b4 you burn it
[12:26] <nalioth> nooB: just burn the .iso file as is. dont open it up
[12:27] <MarcN> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in breezy dies with "start_configlet: configlet in path /usr/share/configlets/aptconf is bad"
[12:27] <nooB> i will burn the winrar form ????? thanks.
[12:27] <MarcN> anyone see that before?  /me has no X
[12:27] !christel:*! : Best wishes from all of us to JamesOff on his wedding day!
[12:27] <lastnode> ompaul: thanks, im actually just playing around with get-apt :)
[12:27] <IngoNeM> cc
[12:28] <ompaul> nooB, you burn ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[12:28] <VoX> how do i get apt to only download the 32-bit package, not the 64-bit one?
[12:28] <CrTr> How could I install .rpm ?
[12:28] <CrTr> file.rpm
[12:28] <ompaul> CrTr, that is not the way to do stuff - which application do you want to install?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> CrTr: in general, don't
[12:28] <ompaul> CrTr, prolly available already for ubuntu
[12:29] <CrTr> Cedega-20050607-cvs rpm
[12:30] <ompaul> CrTr, hmm u would pick that
[12:30] <CrTr> ?
[12:30] <thorsten> moin
[12:30] <walde> moin moin
[12:31] <nalioth> thorsten: grsstig
[12:31] <thorsten> ich hab ein wlan problem, kennt sich da jemand aus?
[12:31] <walde> thorsten, you are in an englishspeaking channel. switch to #ubuntu.de
[12:31] <ompaul> CrTr, have a look at this - rpm is redhat packet manager and advanced packet manager are different  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9473.html
[12:32] <Trackilizer> art, are you in here dude?
[12:32] <thorsten> sory
[12:32] <Trackilizer> I need you're help.
[12:32] <CrTr> ompaul 10q
[12:32] <Trackilizer> I need you to do something for me please.
[12:32] <nalioth> walde: not very polite
[12:32] <{cYanide}> hey, er how can i remove a dir via the root terminal and all folders/files inside it? rmdir isnt working
[12:32] <Trackilizer> Are you in here art?
[12:33] <Trackilizer> Dude! i do really need your help.
[12:33] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: rm -r
[12:33] <walde> nalioth, I can excuse myself in the german-speaking channel. i am just eating, drinking coffee and telephoning. hmmm, yes, it wasnt very polite. But that wasnt my intention.
[12:33] <lastnode> after i get a gui tool via get-apt, how do i add it to my applications menu?
[12:33] <nooB> yes i burn ubunt-5.04-install-i386.iso so what will i do next? thanks
[12:33] <brenner> {cYanide}: be very careful. :)
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> nooB : insert the cd, reboot the machine
[12:33] <nalioth> lastnode: it should show up immediately, if not, it will after you restart your panel
[12:33] <walde> nalioth, unfortunately he doesnt join the german channel .he quits ....
[12:34] <lsuactiafner> nooB : if the install process doesnt start, then change the bootup order to cdrom fist in the bios
[12:34] <nalioth> walde: unfortunately
[12:34] <robotgeek> {cYanide}: rm -rf <dir> BEWARE!
[12:34] <brenner> lastnode: if it doesn't add itself, you can use smeg
[12:34] <nooB> i change that up, i am still burning the cd. there is no exe in linux is it?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: as robotgeek says, be careful if you use the -f switch
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> nooB : no, no exe file
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> nooB : but the process starts itself up
[12:35] <nalioth> nooB: not like you think, no
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> its easier to install then windows
[12:35] <{cYanide}> its ok now i removed it,  i was trying to setup the wine cvs, but i accidently started setting it up as root and it didnt like that, so im just redoing it as standard
[12:36] <nooB> i made a data bootable image by using nero is that the correct way to burn it?
[12:36] <lastnode> brenner: syntax?
[12:36] <brenner> lsuactiafner: what about the partitioning stuff? :D can be a bit confusing for newbies
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> nooB : no idea, but it sounds correct.
[12:36] <walde> thorsten, sorry, I dont wanted to be unpolite :-) It was just a hint to use the german channel :-)
[12:36] <vrln> I just switched to ubuntu yesturday - I'm trying to compile a new (ck) kernel for it. What I want to do is use the exact same config as ubuntu uses - this is all ok so far. My problem is the initrd. How can I create an identical initrd like the distribution itself uses? What does the initrd actually contain? (in other words, if it just has the filesystem module, perhaps I could just add the filesystem to my kernel and then I wouldn't need
[12:36] <vrln>  an initrd at all?)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> nooB: no - you need to choose the image option
[12:36] <{cYanide}> noob if you just burn the disc image and burn it, it will be fine
[12:36] <{cYanide}> er i mean
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> brenner : you think windows xp install is more difficult?
[12:36] <{cYanide}> lol select the disc image
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> took me 2 tries to get XP running
[12:36] <brenner> lsuactiafner: no.
[12:37] <thoreauputic> nooB: you want an exact clone of the iso image in other words
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> brenner : meant to say XP *is* more difficult to install.
[12:37] <nooB> even if its in winrar form? cyanide?
[12:37] <{cYanide}> winrar opens iso files
[12:37] <brenner> lastnode: ?
[12:37] <Whistler> is it possible to install Dillo using apt-get?
[12:37] <thenuke> Whistler: sure
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> who read dildo?
[12:37] <nalioth> nooB: yes even tho it looks like a rar, as long as it has .iso at the end
[12:37] <{cYanide}> just open nero, and there should be an option to open the iso in the file menu
[12:37] <nalioth> Whistler: yes it is
[12:37] <thoreauputic> nooB: it *isn't* winrar - it's an ISO - the file association with winrar is silly
[12:38] <{cYanide}> then just burn
[12:38] <thoreauputic> nooB: I mean not you - the program association
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> i need to go shower..
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[12:38] <brenner> lsuactiafner: that's interesting...to be honest, i can't see how you can go wrong. :-/
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Whistler: probably in the universe repo (haven't checked)
[12:39] <nalioth> !info dillo
[12:39] <ubotu> dillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 688 kB
[12:39] <Whistler> thoreauputic i found it allready thx
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Whistler: cool :)
[12:39] <walde> nooB, http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm
[12:40] <vrln> anyone?
[12:40] <brenner> wow, that's really small...
[12:40] <lyndon> how can i copy a file in other network computer ?
[12:40] <nalioth> vrln: that is not productive. ask your question again. "anyone" doesnt help anything
[12:40] <brenner> dillo, that is.
[12:40] <vrln> nalioth: I asked the question already - scroll up :) didn't want to repeat
[12:41] <thoreauputic> brenner: it's blindingly quick too - but limited
[12:41] <vrln> in a nutshell, what does the ubuntu initrd contain
[12:41] <nalioth> vrln: repeating is optimal, as long as you dont repeat too often
[12:41] <thoreauputic> brenner: no javascript. frames, https etc
[12:41] <Whistler> emm where is the run button in breezy?
[12:41] <nalioth> Whistler: run button?
[12:41] <sedat> terminal
[12:41] <deFrysk> Whistler, alt-f2
[12:42] <vrln> and if you use the default config, I assume it will require an initrd :) what I'm trying to achieve is a standard ubuntu kernel with the ck patch
[12:42] <brenner> nalioth, thoreauputic: guess there had to be a downside. :)
[12:42] <Whistler> deFrysk thx
[12:42] <deFrysk> Whistler, you can ala add it seperatly to you pannel
[12:42] <onkarshinde> which program can be used to save dvd to hard disk? Can I save it in multiple files?
[12:43] <nalioth> jdef: the man with the plan
[12:43] <{cYanide}> erm is there a way to install the latest gnome?
[12:43] <nalioth> onkarshinde: dvdrip
[12:43] <Whistler> deFrysk how do i add it?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: install Breezy I guess :)
[12:43] <nalioth> {cYanide}: install breezy
[12:43] <deFrysk> Whistler, rightklick panel >add .choose run
[12:43] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Have you used it?
[12:44] <nalioth> onkarshinde: not personally no
[12:44] <nalioth> onkarshinde: i use one of my other macs to rip dvds (for backup purposes)
[12:44] <Whistler> deFrysk Oh thx :)
[12:44] <deFrysk> add to panel that is you can even drag and drop it in
[12:44] <brenner> onkarshinde: i've heard good things
[12:44] <Whistler> how do i mount iso files?
[12:45] <onkarshinde> brenner: I didn't get what you mean.
[12:45] <brenner> onkarshinde: i've heard good things about dvdrip
[12:45] <thoreauputic> Whistler: mount -o loop foo.iso /mount/point
[12:45] <kemik> Whistler:  "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop isofile.iso /mountpoint/
[12:45] <Whistler> thx
[12:45] <Whistler> :)
[12:46] <onkarshinde> brenner: Ok. But it has a lot of dependencies. And I am currently on dial-up. So probably won;t install it.
[12:46] <samu2> Ok, now some process has locked up my soundcard so I can't play stuff in rhythmbox. What process should i kill?
[12:46] <mirak> hi there is a broken package in breezy, is that know problem ?
[12:47] <onkarshinde> mirak: which one?
[12:47] <mirak>  valgrind-callgrind: Conflicts: valgrind (> 1:2.6)
[12:47] <mirak> readahead-list: Conflicts: readahead mais 1:0.20050328.0142-0ubuntu4 doit tre install
[12:48] <onkarshinde> mirak: Is it a package from universe?
[12:49] <mirak> onkarshinde: don't know
[12:49] <brenner> samu2: try esd
[12:49] <mirak> onkarshinde: yes
[12:50] <samu2> no esd processes listed by grep -A
[12:51] <mirak> onkarshinde: I remove them
[12:51] <_anti-net_> Hi, i want to setup a mail server (pop3) on my ubuntu box, any suggestions on what software i should use?
[12:52] <mirak> _anti-net_: you should install an imap server
[12:52] <samu2> How can I found out what process is locking up the sound card?
[12:52] <mirak> _anti-net_: courierimap plus squirelmail
[12:52] <holycow> anyone here run mythtv on ubuntu?
[12:52] <mirak> squirrelmail
[12:52] <mirak> holycow: me
[12:52] <topyli> _anti-net_: dovecot maybe. it's easy to set up and supports pop and imap
[12:52] <_anti-net_> thanks mirak
[12:53] <holycow> mirak, you use hauppage cards?
[12:53] <mirak> holycow: it's a nice programm but not easy to setup
[12:53] <slept> samu2, lsof |grep dsp
[12:53] <mirak> holycow: #mythtv-users
[12:53] <holycow> mirak, i'm getting some really weird issues, was wondering if i can compare notes
[12:53] <holycow> that channel is useless for any serious debugging
[12:53] <holycow> you can't possibly suggest that?
[12:54] <mirak> holycow: what ?
[12:54] <mirak> try #mythtv then
[12:54] <holycow> what do you mean what?
[12:54] <holycow> dude stop giving me useless information
[12:54] <samu2> slept, nothing came up
[12:54] <lastnode> how do I add an application to the gnome app panel?
[12:54] <lastnode> i was told to use smeg
[12:54] <holycow> i just wanted to ask if you are using hoary and hauppage cards, thats it
[12:54] <lastnode> but there is no man entry on it
[12:54] <holycow> and kernel
[12:55] <CrTr> how to install ati drivers 4 ubuntu ?
[12:55] <holycow> oh and ivtv driver version
[12:55] <slept> samu2, how do you know its locked and not muted ?
[12:55] <brenner> !smeg
[12:55] <ubotu> from memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME.     More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:59] <dskloet> Hi, is anyone here using Breezy? Should it currently work?
[12:59] <brenner> lastnode: /msg ubotu <trigger> in future to avoid flooding :)
[12:59] <lastnode> !backports
[12:59] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:59] <lastnode> thanks brenner, sorry
[12:59] <onkarshinde> what is apm exactly? And how to unable it?
[12:59] <{cYanide}> oh one last thing,  er is there a way i can create a swap partition from within ubuntu
[12:59] <brenner> lol
[01:00] <mirak> nalioth: how do you know what it means by the way. You shouldn't ^^
[01:00] <ompaul> holycow, it is with regret that all I can offer you is http://tinyurl.com/7v2vv
[01:00] <lastnode> brenner: ubotu is not telling me anything :)
[01:00] <vrln> how to ubuntus bootup scripts handle kernels that have everything compiled inside?
[01:00] <{cYanide}> or is swap a bad idea? ive been foruming and some say its good and some its bad,
[01:00] <{cYanide}> but it seems wine needs a swap to run some things
[01:00] <brenner> lastnode: what don't you get?
[01:00] <vrln> ie, will I have problems if I use a non-modular kernel
[01:00] <slept>  onkarshinde  man apm
[01:00] <brenner> lastnode: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <lastnode> its not giving me that data
[01:00] <holycow> ompaul, that is okay, you helped a great deal in the other channel :) at this point i'm mostly trying to compare hardware and software specs
[01:01] <holycow> ompaul, and my thanks :)
[01:01] <lastnode> brenner: i cant copy the string the channel scrolls too fast
[01:01] <lastnode> im slow on this trackpad
[01:01] <lastnode> and ubotu wont give me anything when i /msg him :)
[01:01] <mirak> holycow: chances are that your card is not supported yet, the chips have changed
[01:01] <brenner> lastnode: are you identified?
[01:01] <slept> onkarshinde, you dont want to unable it  unless you like pushing the powerbutton after shuting down
[01:01] <nalioth> brenner: he is not
[01:02] <dskloet> nobody using breezy?
[01:02] <mirak> holycow: use windows
[01:02] <mirak> lol
[01:02] <lastnode> brenner: of course