 @polygonaldog, Be calm
 What's the last thing that you remember?
 Scrapping Windows off your PC?
[02:41] <tomreyn> the polygonal dog had lasted for exactly one minute
[06:15] <mezan> Hi, Does anybody know how can I increase the font size in Okular commens (aka notes, annotations)? I've a 4K monitor and the notes are pretty small and seems to be unchangeable.
[06:18] <mezan> *comments
[07:00] <lordievader> Good morning
 Hey
[07:32] <lordievader> Morning swift110, how are you doing?
[07:35] <swift110> good lordievader
[07:48] <lordievader> 👍
 How to merge 19.10 kernel with 18.04 iso and build a new iso?
 @Rutvikm, Because this is due to outdated kernel on the 18.04 LTS
 @Rutvikm, Something like this can do that I think. https://launchpad.net/cubic
 @RikMills, 👍👍
 There are wiki pages to describe how to do that manually, but they are moslty out of date and confusing.
[09:50] <Caterpillar> does kubuntu have selinux or apparmor?
[09:52] <lordievader> Assuming Ubuntu still does AppArmor. Kubuntu does too.
[10:13] <Karol_su> Hi all
[10:13] <salsa4life> Hi Su
[10:14] <Karol_su> I have regression bug in Kubuntu 18.04 kernel related to my camera.
[10:14] <Karol_su> uvcvideo: Failed to query (GET_DEF) UVC control 2 on unit 2: -110 (exp. 2).
[10:14] <Karol_su> where should I search for similar or report it
[10:15] <salsa4life> launchpad
[10:15] <Karol_su> Ubuntu launchpad you mean ?
[11:01] <sflyer> Hi, can anyone help? How i can set hot key for layout in login screen? Kubuntu 19.04
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[19:19] <sultan_> hello
[19:23] <Salman> hi world


[00:29] <studio-user557> how can i install my tascam us122
[02:40] <kizmut> Anyone here try OpenBroadcaster?
[02:40] <Unit193> Vas ist das?
[02:40] <kizmut> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBroadcaster
[02:41] <Unit193> Bah, was, not vas.  Danke.
[02:42] <Unit193> https://bugs.debian.org/774744
[02:43] <kizmut> Different application.
[02:44] <kizmut> Open Broadcast Software != Open Broadcaster
[02:47] <Unit193> Bah, I can read.  Yeah, sorry.  I did look, it looks not too bad but don't have a personal need for it.
[02:48] <kizmut> :(
[07:48] <studio-user705> ciao ragazzi!!
[11:55] <yorwos> hi all , ubuntu normal 15.04 is scheduled for tomorrow if it doesnt delay , do u know when ubuntu studio is going 15.04 ? is it tomorrow or a later date ?
[12:43] <^MiK^> hi
[12:45] <^MiK^> I'm confused guys. ubuntuStudio's Kernel its ready on realtime? or i may to config..
[12:58] <zgorbyo> hi all my daw can't seem to find calf dssi plugins any more, only dssi instruments detected
[12:59] <zgorbyo> can anybody help please?
[14:25] <holstein> zgorbyo: seems like, you are likely in a midi channel
[14:25] <holstein> and at the point where you are looking for instruments, instead of audio plugins
[14:25] <holstein> i would relax, and ask in #ardour.. i bet its just a matter of adding in a buss, or in the "proper" place for audio plugins
[14:26] <holstein> i would just create a "normal" audio channel, and see that i can still add the plugins, and go from there
[14:26] <zgorbyo> no they just disappeared
[14:26] <zgorbyo> i used to use them
[14:27] <holstein> if you literally think they disapeared, then, thats it
[14:27] <holstein> if you "used to use them", then elaborate about what you have done, and when that was.. more details about the conditions
[14:27] <holstein> you can try as another user, and remove your user config from the equation.. you can use the package manager of your choice to make sure that you have the packages you expect installed
[14:28] <zgorbyo> maybe they disappeared after a system update
[14:28] <holstein> zgorbyo: only you know
[14:28] <zgorbyo> yes they are installed
[14:28] <holstein> i personally very rarely update my audio production machine
[14:28] <zgorbyo> i also tried to uninstall and reinstall
[14:29] <holstein> anyways, again, if you are talking about ardour, and you are not seeing the plugins in ardour, try the #ardour channel
[14:29] <zgorbyo> i can access the standalone version
[14:29] <zgorbyo> of calf plugins
[14:29] <holstein> though, they will suggest you use the version from their site
[14:29] <holstein> which is fine
[14:29] <holstein> but, you can also try as another user.. im not clear on if you have tried that suggestion, or not
[14:29] <holstein> anyways, lots of volunteers about, if you want to work with someone.. let us know
[14:30] <zgorbyo> maybe the plugins files missing in the location^
[14:30] <holstein> zgorbyo: sure.. anytime you say "maybe", just look and confirm that
[14:30] <zgorbyo> i can't do it
[14:31] <zgorbyo> where can i find the dssi plugins folder in the file system?
[14:31] <holstein> zgorbyo: i *really* dont think so.. i really think you are using ardour, and you are either dealing with a configuration error, which, can be tested as another user.. or, you have a midi track that you are tring to add audio plugins into
[14:32] <holstein> zgorbyo: you really shouldnt need to do that, and, i suggest *not* doing a bunch of reinstalling, and sudo mv'ing files about
[14:32] <holstein> you can actually cause more issues than repairs
[14:32] <holstein> since, you are not sure why, what is going on
[14:32] <holstein> zgorbyo: *is* this ardour we are talking about? yes or no?
[14:32] <zgorbyo> no its renoise
[14:33] <holstein> zgorbyo: again, i suggest, opening ardour, and add a *normal* audio track.. and try adding your plugins
[14:33] <zgorbyo> right
[14:33] <zgorbyo> i proceed
[14:34] <zgorbyo> ok done
[14:35] <zgorbyo> where can i find plugins in ardour^
[14:35] <zgorbyo> ardour crashed
[14:36] <holstein> zgorbyo: sure.. im not sure what system instability has been introduced to try and "fix" the percieved issue
[14:36] <holstein> regardless, you are, as i see it, assuming the system has "lost" the plugins you seek
[14:36] <zgorbyo> ok i just need to locate plugins in ardour to add to a track
[14:36] <holstein> dont assume that.. you say they are there stand alone, so they are there
[14:37] <holstein> try adding them literally in anything that ships with ubuntu.. and make certain that this is not a renoise issue, with config, or an update
[14:37] <holstein> then, you'll know what the issue is
[14:38] <holstein> zgorbyo: i suggested, adding a normal audio track in ardour.. then, you can go to the mixer in the menu, and right click on the black spaced on the channel, and add plugins
[14:38] <zgorbyo> ok it cant seem to locate calf plugins
[14:38] <holstein> you are just wanting to see the plugin in the list
[14:38] <zgorbyo> but the other are present
[14:38] <holstein> zgorbyo: sure, but, now, we have an additional variable.. you have been trying to "fix" them..
[14:38] <zgorbyo> yes done
[14:39] <zgorbyo> dont understand
[14:39] <holstein> zgorbyo: you stated you have reinstalled the plugins..
[14:39] <holstein> anyways.. what i would do is, ask in #ardour, or #opensourcemusicians
[14:40] <holstein> i would work with ardour, and getting the "system" to see the plugins you want
[14:40] <holstein> then, renoise should "just work"
[14:40] <holstein> you may want to try as another user, as well, since, that removes your current users config from the equation
[14:42] <zgorbyo> maybe a fresh installation of 1404
[14:43] <holstein> you can try a live iso, and that will remove your current install from the equation
[14:45] <zgorbyo> thanks i will come back
[18:37] <freireandrade> oi


[00:46] <mhall119> cjohnston: I think I know what's causing that
[00:47] <cjohnston> okie..
[00:51] <mhall119> lpupdate calls create_profile for new admins
[00:52] <mhall119> lpupdate now calls set_user_openid, so that admins who haven't logged in yet don't get ${username}2
[00:52] <mhall119> but if an admin has changed their username, then they are trying to set the same openid for the new username, which throws the unique constraint violation
[00:53] <mhall119> I'm testing my fix now
[00:57] <cjohnston> sweet
[00:57] <cjohnston> I've got an install ready to test it
[01:03] <mhall119> http://pastebin.com/dENi652v is the patch
[01:42] <cjohnston> Ronnie: ping
[02:00] <cjohnston> mhall119: Your patch works
[02:00] <cjohnston> (or atleast fixes the errors)
[02:01] <cjohnston> I can't test to see if it fixes the bug that the fr team has tho cause for some reason update-profiles threw an error on my name
[02:01] <cjohnston> Do you want to push your patch?
[02:14] <mhall119> what was the error it threw on your name?
[02:15]  * mhall119 doesn't want to replace one error with another
[02:15] <mhall119> my first attempt at a NattyWallpaper: http://www.flickr.com/photos/38053898@N02/5495416125/
[02:15] <cjohnston> rror updating openiduser183
[02:15] <cjohnston> u'openiduser183'
[02:15] <cjohnston> but chrisjohnston2
[02:16] <mhall119> :(
[02:16] <mhall119> did you run update-openids first?
[02:16] <cjohnston> der
[03:28] <nigelb> morning
[07:40] <YoBoY> good morning
[08:12] <dholbach> good morning
[11:00] <cjohnston> YoBoY: I think I have your bug figured out
[11:00] <YoBoY> great :)
[11:01] <YoBoY> but i know more or less why too, it doesn't ask my other teams when I log in and LD don't make the link i think
[11:06] <cjohnston> no
[11:06] <cjohnston> theres a bug in the lpupdate
[11:06] <cjohnston> it tries to create an admin profile for every admin
[11:06] <cjohnston> and if the profile is already create
[11:06] <cjohnston> d
[11:06] <cjohnston> it errors
[11:07] <YoBoY> ok
[11:50] <Ronnie> cjohnston: i think i have the fix for the team admin issue
[11:51] <Ronnie> mhall119: ping ^ (ill upload soon, doing one last test)
[11:54] <Ronnie> but it takes very long to do one lpupdate :(
[12:22] <mhall119> Ronnie: which issue?
[12:23] <Ronnie> the "edit team details" from YoBoY, which was caused by the lpupdate.py change
[12:24] <Ronnie> in lpupdate we should not blindly create a new profile, but first try to get a profile with that name, if not exists, than create the new one
[12:26] <mhall119> Ronnie: create_profile does a check if a profile for that name exists
[12:27] <mhall119> the problem was that it was now calling launchpad.set_user_openid, which was trying to create a duplicate openid entry
[12:27] <mhall119> I have a fix to that, which will remove old openid entries before adding the new one
[12:46] <Ronnie> mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/lpupdate-admin/+merge/52190
[13:44] <mhall119> glory/w 28
[13:44] <mhall119> bah
[13:44] <nigelb> lol
[15:45] <dholbach> Last day of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[18:03] <cjohnston_> mhall119: did you and Ronnie` come up with the same patch?
[18:03] <mhall119> cjohnston_: different approaches I think
[18:03] <mhall119> I haven't looked at his actual patch yet
[18:03] <Ronnie`> cjohnston_: indeed different approach
[18:04]  * mhall119 has been doing production deployments in between watching UDW sessions
[18:04] <Ronnie`> mine does not create new profiles if the profile already exists, but adds the profile to the admin list
[18:04] <cjohnston> production deployments?
[18:04] <mhall119> for moffitt, not LD
[18:05] <cjohnston> ahh
[18:05] <cjohnston> switch then
[18:05] <cjohnston> lol
[18:18] <cjohnston> aakshay: ping
[18:19] <aakshay> cjohnston, hi.. :)
[18:19] <cjohnston> hey..
[18:19] <cjohnston> We are going to try to push a release of LD today...
[18:19] <cjohnston> If you look at the merge about the order of columns and fix it, I can get it in the release
[18:20] <aakshay> cjohnston, i have done it.. :)
[18:20] <aakshay> and mereged it..
[18:21] <cjohnston> ok..
[18:22] <aakshay> is it fine now? :p
[18:22] <cjohnston> Ronnie`: what do you do to make sure that we get email notifications
[18:22] <cjohnston> looks like it
[18:22] <cjohnston> im merging it in
[18:22] <cjohnston> Ronnie`: when you submit an update to a merge
[18:22] <aakshay> thanks.. :)...yooo...
[18:23] <Ronnie`> cjohnston: what do you mean by the mail thing ^^
[18:24] <cjohnston> Ronnie`: you do a merge proposal.. it gets reviewed as needs work.. you fix and push your new code.. I normally get an email when you do that.. is that because you do the resubmit thing?
[18:25] <Ronnie`> i dont know how that works...
[18:25] <cjohnston> hmm
[18:25] <cjohnston> I guess when you submit an update we should maybe make a comment so that we get emails
[18:26] <Ronnie`> good idea, this is usually the case, but im not aware of the differences. We'll try that, see if that works
[18:27] <Ronnie`> mhall119: do you have some time to compare our fixes for the admin problem and merge this one?
[18:28] <mhall119> Ronnie`: I think cjohnston is already doing that
[18:29]  * Ronnie` looks at cjohnston
[18:29] <cjohnston> yup
[18:31] <cjohnston> I asked nigelb to email the translations team to try to get some translations done since there are some big changes to translations.. hopefully some of them will get done
[18:31] <mhall119> we never did decide on a policy for getting translations, did we?
[18:32] <cjohnston> as far as?
[18:34] <Ronnie`> the dutch translations are already up-to-date :D, but we need indeed some sort of a policy for this
[18:34] <mhall119> whether to regularly update the translation template during development, or institute a translation freeze before releases, or both
[18:35] <cjohnston> I don't know... here's my thing... Today.. we can push a critical bug that was discovered yesterday, so IMO obviously push what translations we have
[18:35] <cjohnston> even though most got pushed to trunk this morning
[18:36] <cjohnston> I don't see any reason to hold a critical patch for translations
[18:36] <mhall119> critical bugs we can always push, either from trunk or directly to the production branch
[18:36] <mhall119> I'm thinking more of a "normal process"
[18:37] <cjohnston> but for a normal release, I guess we could make a one week freeze or something... but to go with that, we should email translations team IMO when we freeze
[18:38] <mhall119> I was leaning more towards uploading new templates after we do reviews & merges, since we don't have strings change that often after they make it into trunk
[18:38] <mhall119> then we don't have to allow as much time for a freeze
[18:39] <mhall119> since most of the strings will have been available for translations prior to us packaging a release
[18:39] <cjohnston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/575633/
[18:39] <cjohnston> I normally try to push an update translations every few days
[18:40] <cjohnston> I also think that when we push a critical fix, we need to version bump for better tracking.
[18:44] <mhall119> don't we always get a new version when we release from trunk?
[18:44] <mhall119> or do you mean when we push a fix directly to the production branch?
[18:47] <cjohnston> when   a patch is pushed directly to production
[18:47] <cjohnston> Just to be a little more organized
[18:47] <cjohnston> It doesn't make sense to have a fix released on a release that isn't pushed
[18:50] <mhall119> cjohnston: so you want to add another .version number for bug fixes between releases?
[18:50] <mhall119> <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:50] <mhall119> or 0.3.1-1
[18:57] <cjohnston> no.. currently 0.3.1 is live.. if we were just pushing out the fix to the admin profile thing, push out version 0.3.2 and then 0.3.3 would be the development version
[18:58] <mhall119> but then we wouldn't have 0.3.2 in trunk?
[18:58] <cjohnston> hmm
[18:58] <cjohnston> I guess it would have to be committed to trunk as 0.3.2 as well
[18:58] <cjohnston> I dunno
[18:59] <mhall119> so my thoughts are that we commit it to trunk for 0.3.2, along with anything else in trunk
[18:59] <cjohnston> cause there was a bug yesterday that I asked you if its already been released
[18:59] <cjohnston> thats fine
[18:59] <mhall119> then we also commit it to 0.3.1-1 as a "backported" fix, in production branch
[18:59] <mhall119> so it's officially fixed and released in 0.3.2
[18:59] <cjohnston> well.. but that doesn't provide a way to track in lp
[19:00] <cjohnston> without being fix released without a released release
[19:00] <mhall119> true, but only because we only track trunk
[19:01] <mhall119> so the question is, what do we mean by "Fix Released"?
[19:01] <cjohnston> i dunno
[19:01] <cjohnston> id like a better way to track
[19:01] <mhall119> usually that means we've made a package of our code that has that fix
[19:01] <cjohnston> so that the "changelog" reflects better
[19:01] <mhall119> but we've been taking it to mean "pushed to loco.ubuntu.com"
[19:12] <cjohnston> i dunno what is best mhall119, but i think that somehow the change log should reflect a push of code directly to production
[19:14] <mhall119> you mean the bzr changelog?
[19:15] <mhall119> or on launchpad?
[19:51] <cjohnston> mhall119: launchpad since thats what we use for our changelog
[19:54] <mhall119> cjohnston: doing a lighting talk in about 10 minutes, then I'm leaving for home, can we chat more about that tonight?
[19:54] <cjohnston> yup
[19:54] <mhall119> thanks
[19:54] <cjohnston> whats your lightning talk
[19:55] <mhall119> xdg-launcher
[19:55] <cjohnston> cool