[00:00] <ikonia> rideh: twinview is fine for simple dual head, anything else, it's weak.
[00:00] <coz_> jeeves_Moss,  I guess you already tried reinstalling from synaptic...... look for all instances of icedtea on the system and remove them perhaps?
[00:00] <coz_> octavio,  ok it is compiling here ...where did you get the source package from?
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> jeeves_Moss, just so you don't feel alone - i have the same issue with a different package in my Maverick install, I can't do anything with package manager right now :(  Hope get some assistance (I also hope it might apply to my case)
[00:00] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: have you removed that script and then removed icedtea?
[00:00] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, I did a "locate icedtea6-plugin" and manually killed them all.
[00:00] <elvipolar> geting problems with ubuntu on lucid server, I can start the service, does anybody here can help me ? when I try to do "service smbd stop or restart or start" nothing happen it shows me a strange message !
[00:01] <coz_> octavio,  go  here   http://www.lxdream.org/download.php  downlod the  Source  lscream-0.9.1.tar.gz
[00:01] <octavio> coz i got it from ubuntu page
[00:01] <jeeves_Moss> ZykoticK9, lol, kinda sucks when something stupid messes up everything.  it's like a jellous ex g/f!
[00:01] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, not yet
[00:01] <octavio> coz i think thats where i got it from let me check
[00:02] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/icedtea6-plugin.prerm
[00:02] <DasEi> elvipolar: try with samba4
[00:02] <DasEi> elvipolar: and look for it in /etc/init.d/
[00:02] <rideh> ikonia: are there alternatives to xinerama and twinview?
[00:02] <elvipolar> DasEi: what do you mean ? apt-get ins..... samba4 ?
[00:03] <c3l> what is the tool called that manages users in gnome?
[00:03] <ikonia> rideh: xinerama is what you want (you may be able to manually set it up with xrandr)
[00:03] <coz_> rideh,  nvidia card?
[00:03] <DasEi> elvipolar: smdb is for samba , nor ?
[00:03] <ChogyDan> ZykoticK9: if you give me the error message, I can tell you what to delete
[00:03] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, same error
[00:03] <octavio> coz wich one should i install
[00:03] <ikonia> rideh: just keep in mind you'll get no 3d acceleration with xinerama
[00:03] <coz_> rideh,  you want twinview for sure....what is the issue with twinview for you?
[00:03] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: pastebin?
[00:03] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, one sec.  slow connection. LOL
[00:03] <neverblue> trying to remove mysql-server [aptitude remove mysql-server], but when i do so I receive: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. When I do this, it just hangs.  Is there any way I can remove mysql-server, so I can reinstall/reconfigure it correctly ?
[00:03] <rideh> ikonia: i get 3d accell with xinerama it supposedly has a performance hit but i'm running a nvidia 460gtx so i dont see it
[00:04] <octavio> coz i got ubuntu 10.04 32bit
[00:04] <elvipolar> DasEi: yes it is, I just would like to make it works haha
[00:04] <coz_> neverblue,  run that command then
[00:04] <rideh> coz_: landscape + portrait
[00:04] <coz_> rideh,  oh
[00:04] <coz_> rideh,  nvidia-settings  has adjustments for that I believe
[00:04] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, <cocks an eyebrow>  one sec.  something seems to be moving here.  stand by please
[00:04] <kermit> how do i submit patches?
[00:04] <ikonia> rideh: xinerama doesn't support 3d on the nvidia card
[00:04] <neverblue> coz_, please read the -entire- question
[00:04] <Aemaeth> neverblue, synaptic couldn't remove it completely? i hate mysql and reinstall it constantly
[00:04] <ikonia> rideh: not sure how you're getting that
[00:04] <rideh> coz_: yeah twinview doesnt support it. i have it running with xinerama, just annoyed with the alignment.  I'm running version 256 of the nvidia driver. nvidia-settings is kinda borked
[00:04] <ikonia> kermit: patches to what
[00:05] <DasEi> elvipolar: second, installing on vm now
[00:05] <kermit> ikonia: just generally.. is the method different for every package?
[00:05]  * dddw trusten http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRfluaMKoOY
[00:05] <rideh> ikonia: not sure either but it works? i can't get it across both panels, just screen 0
[00:05] <octavio> coz save the file
[00:05] <coz_> neverblue,  sorry about that.... try running the command in text console  first    ctrl+alt+F1
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> ChogyDan, very different package - you can see the bug i submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/connman/+bug/614035 any insights would be great.  there was no input in +1, although someone else had the same issue.
[00:05] <ikonia> kermit: pretty much, depends if it's to ubuntu or to the upstream package
[00:05] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, ugh, coffee shop connections
[00:05] <coz_> octavio,  ok extract the package....open terminal ...cd to the folder....     ./autogen.sh  && make && sudo make install
[00:05] <makson> Hi guys - is there a good doc on how to setup a jail to install IRSSI + Screen in ?
[00:06] <coz_> octavio,  no  sorry
[00:06] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: no worries
[00:06] <Gustavo_Massa> Hi people. First time  here.
[00:06] <neverblue> coz_ I am unable to, as my Ubuntu install is within VMware
[00:06] <coz_> octavio,    ./autogen.sh  then   ./configure && make && sudo make install
[00:06] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, I think killing that .prm file may have fixed it
[00:06] <DasEi> !hi | Gustavo_Massa
[00:06] <coz_> neverblue,  ooo darn... then I cant help   I never foll with vm at all here
[00:07] <erUSUL> makson: no jails in linux ... closest thing is lxc http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/lxc-configure-ubuntu-lucid-containers/
[00:07] <jeeves_Moss> !play | jeeves
[00:07] <neverblue> anyone else
[00:07] <makson> erUSUL: really? I'm looking at a ubuntu doc right now is chrooting not jail?
[00:07] <Gustavo_Massa> Thanks. I'm having some problems with my delta 1010lt soundboard and envy24control. Don't know if here's the right place to ask questions about audio.
[00:07] <makson> erUSUL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[00:07] <octavio> coz so u want me to drag that sheet to terminal
[00:07] <tensorpudding> chroot doesn't provide everything that jails provide
[00:07] <c3l> what is the tool called that manages users in gnome? (not how I start it, I need to download it)
[00:07] <coz_> octavio,  what sheet?
[00:08] <makson> tensorpudding: example?
[00:08] <tensorpudding> some people use the term "chroot jail" to describe what chroot can do.
[00:08] <DasEi> elvipolar: sudo /etc/init.d/samba4 start or stop,  and smb.conf done o' course
[00:08] <erUSUL> makson: no. chrrot != jail ( freebsd/solaris )
[00:08] <coz_> octavio, take a screenshot of what you mean and upload to picpaste.com
[00:08] <neverblue> trying to remove mysql-server [aptitude remove mysql-server], but when i do so I receive: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. When I do this, it just hangs.  Is there any way I can remove mysql-server, so I can reinstall/reconfigure it correctly ?
[00:08] <rsouthard> if i have all_squash and anonuid=502 in my /etc/exports and 502=oracle will any file i create as user applqat be owned by oracle if i am in the nfs mounted directory?
[00:08] <_HORNET_> test
[00:08] <makson> tensorpudding: I'm just looking to allow a few people to log into my VPS to run IRSSI and Screne, i wanted to isolate them from the rest of the system... can this be done with ubuntu?
[00:08] <ilovefairuz> makson: chroot it only concerned with file system, not memory or process allocation
[00:08] <makson> Hmm..
[00:08] <tensorpudding> makson: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-intro.html describes the difference between FreeBSD's jails and chroot
[00:09] <DasEi> c3l: users-admin
[00:09] <octavio> coz ok i extract it  i get a folder what next open the terminal
[00:09] <makson> tensorpudding: for what i'm trying to do would that be alright, i just don't want them to blow the box up, or hack into root.
[00:09] <coz_> octavio,  yes open a terminal and cd to that folder
[00:10] <octavio> and cd the drive cd
[00:10] <coz_> octavio,  ??
[00:10] <tensorpudding> I'm not entirely sure what all you want that to entail.
[00:10] <c3l> DasEi: there is not pakage with that name in the repository
[00:10] <Aemaeth> nautilus needs a "open terminal from this folder" option
[00:10] <coz_> Aemaeth,  there are scripts for that
[00:10] <makson> ilovefairuz: I see, if the user connecting just has regular rights, and all they have in there chroot environment is irssi + screen, that's deciently secure correct?
[00:11] <tensorpudding> You can give them accounts without any sudo privileges
[00:11] <coz_> octavio,  where is the folder?
[00:11] <octavio> coz i open terminal what do i type
[00:11] <tensorpudding> and I believe you can chroot jail users using ssh
[00:11] <makson> tensorpudding: yes, no sudo, locked down to the two apps, and perl libs that it needs.
[00:11] <ilovefairuz> makson: you probably want sandboxing using apparmor or selinux
[00:11] <neverblue> help! :D
[00:11] <erUSUL> Aemaeth: nautilus-open-terminal package
[00:11] <octavio> coz its in the download folders
[00:11] <coz_> octavio,  ok  in terminal type   cd downloads
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, you beat me
[00:11] <makson> ilovefairuz: sheesh, i come from a windows world, and sandboxing & jails sound the same..,,
[00:11] <coz_> octavio,  rather   cd Downloads
[00:12] <coz_> octavio,  it has to be an upper case D
[00:12] <Koshie> Hi
[00:12] <rsouthard> anyone know the the name of the pam module that identifies if a services will work with tcp wrappers?
[00:12] <ilovefairuz> !apparmor | makson
[00:12] <makson> ubottu: looking at that now.
[00:12] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, "apt-cache search open terminal nautilus" finds only the right one ;)
[00:12] <makson> ubottu: Hi
[00:12] <Aemaeth> coz_, if you're teaching him terminal, tell him about TAB?
[00:12] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: :)
[00:13] <coz_> Aemaeth,  for sure
[00:13] <tensorpudding> ubottu is so self-deprecating
[00:13] <makson> ubottu: what are you written in?
[00:13] <ilovefairuz> !brain > makson
[00:13] <coz_> octavio,  did you get to that Downloads folder in the terminal?
[00:13] <erUSUL> makson: python
[00:13] <Koshie> I've a big trouble with Ejabberd, I can't connect myself with the admin account at the website Ejabberd of my server. I've create a new password for it with ejabberdctl, I've remove and create a new admin account but I CAN'T connect myself !
[00:13] <Aemaeth> thanks erUSUL
[00:13] <erUSUL> makson: is a supybot
[00:13] <Koshie> I'm sure the first password was good !
[00:13] <makson> Cool.
[00:13] <coz_> octavio,  its ok if you are confused  just answer the questions so I know where you are with this
[00:13] <Koshie> I've 5 passwords for the important account. I've not lose it.
[00:14] <makson> sheesh, it's a bit tuff to follow since there are so many people in here
[00:14] <octavio> coz ok i get this my octavio@octavio-desktop downloads after pressing enter
[00:14] <coz_> makson,  that is why you should type the first 2 or 3 letters of someones name ...hit tab to complete it ...then type the message so they can be alerted :)
[00:14] <DasEi> c3l:I guess it's in gnome-panel
[00:14] <Koshie> So if anyone have a good way for me...
[00:14] <surrender> hey guys, i had fun getting the nvidia drivers installed for my card and things are going better than they started, the biggest problem  i have now is i'm using s-video and every start it says the nvidia module could load or sometihing and there was no screen found and i'm required to boot into safe graphics mode, any quick fix, i
[00:14] <surrender> ?
[00:15] <octavio> coz press enter again
[00:15] <coz_> octavio,  no no   close that terminal
[00:15] <makson> So what are the recommendentations.... again... 3-5 users accessing my VPS for ssh + irssi + screen access that's IT! I want to lock them down so thye can't blow up the system....
[00:15] <coz_> octavio,  open a fresh terminal
[00:15] <octavio> ok
[00:15] <oli_> oli@oli-desktop:~$ xdriinfo
[00:15] <oli_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:15] <oli_> Screen 0: not direct rendering capable.
[00:15] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Ok, i have the disk booted, now what?
[00:15] <makson> we have AppArmor... anything else?
[00:15] <octavio> i did
[00:15] <neverblue> trying to remove mysql-server [aptitude remove mysql-server], but when i do so I receive: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. When I do this, it just hangs.  Is there any way I can remove mysql-server, so I can reinstall/reconfigure it correctly ?
[00:15] <coz_> octavio,  ok now you said it is in the Downloads  folder in your home directory ...yes?
[00:15] <SH-Chris> DasEi: And will an OEM install make any difference?
[00:15] <DasEi> SH-Chris: booted alternate cd ?
[00:16] <octavio> yup
[00:16] <oli_> [    0.098026] system 00:07: iomem range 0x0-0x9ffff could not be reserved
[00:16] <oli_> [    0.098047] system 00:07: iomem range 0xfffe0000-0xffffffff could not be reserved
[00:16] <oli_> [    0.098066] system 00:07: iomem range 0x100000-0x17ffffff could not be reserved
[00:16] <oli_> [    0.098100] system 00:08: iomem range 0xf0000-0xf3fff could not be reserved
[00:16] <oli_> [    0.098117] system 00:08: iomem range 0xf4000-0xfffff could not be reserved
[00:16] <oli_> [    0.098134] system 00:08: iomem range 0xcd000-0xcffff has been reserved
[00:16] <FloodBot3> oli_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <c3l> DasEi: I dont have the full gnome suit, but I want that package. or some other gui frontend to manage users etc
[00:16] <octavio> coz yup
[00:16] <ChogyDan> neverblue: what happens when you try to remove it?
[00:16] <coz_> octavio,  ok in that fresh terminl ONLY type       cd  Downloads    make sure the uppder case D is used
[00:16] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Yeah
[00:16] <coz_> octavio, then hit enter once
[00:17] <octavio> ok
[00:17] <slimjimflim> i installed the kernel patch this morning and now my usb keyboard randomly borks
[00:17] <DasEi> SH-Chris: repair broken system
[00:17] <makson> ilovefairuz: so chroot just locks down the file system, isn't that pretty good teamed with taking away sudo privliages?
[00:17] <coz_> octavio,  ok now type     ls    that is a lower case L
[00:17] <slimjimflim> first time i unplugged and plugged back in
[00:17] <slimjimflim> fixed it
[00:17] <slimjimflim> this last time i couldn't get it, had to reboot
[00:17] <slimjimflim> anybody else having this issue?
[00:17] <coz_> octavio,  that should show the names of the packages and diretories in the Download folder  ...yes?
[00:17] <slimjimflim> fixed it?
[00:18] <octavio> it say downloads
[00:18] <ecrane> where's a good site to get themes for ubuntu 8.04?
[00:18] <octavio> press enter again
[00:18] <zcat[1]> two identical RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ cards installed, only the first one shows up. I know there's something I add in /etc/modprobe.d/ to make the same driver find the second card because I did it once before, but memory and google are failing me. Any hints?
[00:18] <coz_> octavio,  do you have another folder in Downloads  named   downloads???
[00:18] <surrender> anyone use tv-out with an older nvidia card?
[00:18] <octavio> no
[00:18] <Sasquatch7> How would I open a web browser in the background and remain in the terminal once the browser is opened? I have tried & but the browser still opens over whatever window i'm currently in.
[00:18] <DasEi> c3l:gnome-system-tools it is
[00:18] <coz_> octavio,  ok lets make this easier ... go to that file you extracted and cut and paste it onto the Desktop
[00:19] <Aemaeth> coz_, yeah, i have one of those download folders too
[00:19] <coz_> o0
[00:19] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Ok, hope that works
[00:19] <c3l> DasEi: thanks
[00:19] <octavio> coz i did it
[00:19] <no--name> lets say i had a bunch of files named file 01 - file 20 .... how would i rename them to file.01 - file.20 with one command?
[00:19] <coz_> octavio,  ok so it on the Desktop now ...yes??
[00:19] <zcat[1]> perhaps I'll just wait for the upgrade to 10.04 to finish and see if it figures it out for itself :)
[00:20] <octavio> coz yup
[00:20] <ilovefairuz> makson: it depends on what you have on stake, if there are sensitive data on that box, then tighten it as much as you can
[00:20] <DasEi> SH-Chris: should, though I'm getting tired now up since 6 am, being 20 past 1 night here
[00:20] <coz_> octavio,  ok now open a fresh terminal
[00:20] <almoxarife> the desktop has a click-able  option to 'clean up by name' , I would like to know what the command line is for it so that I can have it auto done on each login to my account
[00:20] <makson> ilovefairuz: nothing sensative at all, just irc logs
[00:20] <octavio> coz ok
[00:20] <coz_> octavio,  type    cd  Desktop   with an upper case D
[00:20] <makson> ilovefairuz: really just wanting to give a few users access to the box to allow them to always be connected thats all buddies of mine.
[00:20] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Allright :) Wonder what i should do if it doesnt though
[00:20] <coz_> octavio,  hit enter only once
[00:20] <ChogyDan> neverblue: oh, nm, that's what you doin.  One thing to try would be to remove all the scripts for that package (all scripts with that package name in /var/lib/dpkg/info), run the dpkg configure again, then run the remove command.  This is a very hacky method
[00:20] <Aemaeth> no--name, isn't there actually a rename program? you could throw it a wildcard
[00:20] <chroniK> hey :)
[00:21] <no--name> Aemaeth: yeah there is i just don't know how to do it
[00:21] <zcat[1]> makson, beware, lets they upload sounds of the telephone ringing and play them at random times to bewilder and confuse you... ;)
[00:21] <coz_> octavio,  there?
[00:21] <DasEi> SH-Chris: just ask how to get a gf61.. running by live or alternate-cd
[00:21] <no--name> i tried $ rename 's/\ /.' *
[00:21] <no--name> did not work
[00:21] <Aemaeth> no--name, do a man rename, it seems to explain it
[00:21] <Aemaeth> ah, k
[00:21] <hippiemalo> hello
[00:21] <octavio> it says desktop now
[00:22] <coz_> octavio, ok
[00:22] <DasEi> SH-Chris: it's not so geekish noone knows ..;-)
[00:22] <makson> ilovefairuz: i can spend days locking the thing down, but the question is does it require siuch a lock down. I'm thinking no... I have snapshots on the box, I want to block people from installing shit, and from snooping around other users home folders thats pretty much it.
[00:22] <coz_> octavio,  ok now what is the name of the folder you just put onto the Desktop???
[00:22] <surrender> what package do i have to install to enable file sharing? i installed samba and it still says i need a package
[00:22] <makson> zcat[1]: good thing I don't have speakers then :)
[00:22] <chroniK> hey hippiemalo  :)
[00:23] <octavio> lxdream 0.9.1
[00:23] <hippiemalo> hey chroniK ;)
[00:23] <zcat[1]> makson, I gave a friend access like that years back and that's what he did. Spent several days running to answer the phone before I figured out what was going on ;)
[00:23] <ilovefairuz> makson: you could lock communications with iptables to a few specific IRC hosts and you'll be one step ahead
[00:23] <coz_> octavio,   ok in that same terminal that says  :Desktop   type     cd  lxd   then hit the tab keyboard button to complete it's name and hit enter once
[00:23] <Koshie> Anyone know for my Ejabberd's problem ?
[00:23] <hippiemalo> Hello Everybody, I have some troubles with VMD installation. can some body help me?
[00:23] <almoxarife> surrender: nautilus share I believe is also needed
[00:23] <Koshie> hippiemalo: ask.
[00:23] <Koshie> :)
[00:23] <surrender> ty almoxarife
[00:23] <Koshie> "Don't ask to ask, just ask."
[00:24] <octavio> ok now hit enter
[00:24] <oli_> oli@oli-desktop:~$ xdriinfo
[00:24] <coz_> octavio,  the terminal should now say you are in  lxdream ....yes?
[00:24] <oli_> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:24] <oli_> Screen 0: not direct rendering capable.
[00:24] <hippiemalo> I would like to run the 'make file install' but it didn't work.
[00:24] <octavio> yup
[00:24] <oli_> oli@oli-desktop:~$ glxinfo
[00:24] <oli_> name of display: :0.0
[00:24] <oli_> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[00:24] <Oer> oli_,  do not flood
[00:24] <oli_>   Major opcode of failed request:  137 (GLX)
[00:24] <oli_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[00:24] <oli_>   Serial number of failed request:  16
[00:24] <oli_>   Current serial number in output stream:  16
[00:24] <ilovefairuz> makson: you could also mount the home partition with noexec
[00:24] <hippiemalo> I would like to run the 'make file install' but it didn't work. Koshie
[00:25] <octavio> coz hit enter now
[00:25] <oli_> wher i can download xorg.conf for ati 9200
[00:25] <coz_> octavio,  ok now in that terminal  type    ./autog  and hit the tab button and make sure it  ends up saying  ./autogen.sh
[00:25] <oli_> ??
[00:25] <oli_> wher i can download xorg.conf for ati 9200
[00:25] <oli_> ??
[00:25] <oli_> wher i can download xorg.conf for ati 9200
[00:25] <coz_> octanium,  then hit the enter key once
[00:25] <oli_> ??
[00:25] <oli_> wher i can download xorg.conf for ati 9200
[00:25] <oli_> ??
[00:25] <ilovefairuz> oli_: stop
[00:25] <|inoh> hi, I have ubuntu karmic installed on a external hdd.  If I boot it on my laptop it boots fine, with the exception of running disk check 70% of the time.  If I boot it on my fiancees laptop it gets the the ubuntu symbol, goes to the blank screen to indicate loading, then freezes.  Why might this be???
[00:25] <makson> ilovefairuz: noexec, prevent's them from executing stuff ? whitelist?
[00:25] <oli_> where i can download xorg.conf for ati 9200
[00:25] <oli_> ??
[00:25] <oli_> sorry
[00:25] <oli_> okey
[00:25] <oli_> ??
[00:25] <coz_> octavio,  tell me when that finishes
[00:25] <DasEi> oli_: calm down a little, or won't get help here
[00:25] <makson> ^ yaaaaa
[00:25] <Daekdroom> !patience | oli_
[00:25] <ilovefairuz> !enter | oli_
[00:25] <oli_> now my internet connect it's 2 kb/s
[00:26] <Aemaeth> no--name, i don't know that perplexer stuff they're talking about, so i can't really help, i'm thinking cp might be useful as well
[00:26] <Daekdroom> oli_, by the way, ubuntu doesn't need xorg.conf in most of situations
[00:26] <almoxarife> the desktop has a click-able  option to 'clean up by name' , I would like to know what the command line is for it so that I can have it auto done on each login to my account????????????????
[00:26] <oli_> that way flood
[00:26] <oli_> flood
[00:26] <oli_> flood
[00:26] <ilovefairuz> makson: from executing things in their home directory, but they can still execute system binaries
[00:26] <makson> oli_: quit bein a clown
[00:26] <hippiemalo> Koshie, All in all, I've unpackaged the vmd tar then I configured the ./configure file. then I cd to src and maked 'sudo make install'.
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> oli_: u be trollin'?
[00:26] <oli_> yes and sorry
[00:26] <almoxarife> hippiemalo: you get an error?
[00:26] <Daekdroom> !troll > oli_
[00:27] <coz_> octavio,  is it still working?
[00:27] <aeon-ltd> oli_: you don't need a xorg.conf if you do generate one with X --generate
[00:27] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, ok, next idea?
[00:27] <makson> ilovefairuz: i'll look into that, i wan't to prevent them from scping stuff up to the box.
[00:27] <tyler_d|werkin> wireless will not work on 10.04... tried modifying and resetting the /etc/network/interfaces file, the nm-applet just tries and tries to connect to the network but ultimately fails?
[00:27] <aeon-ltd> * --configure my bad
[00:27] <makson> ilovefairuz: scp runs over same port as ssh, so not sure how i can do that...
[00:27] <MChaver> Hi there, are you giving support for Maverick?
[00:27] <istvan> Hey, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 on my custom build, and it works fine... up until i'm asked to log in. then it removes the login window, i just get the desktop backgorund and cursor. no menus or anything. this is usubntu studio btw, but i had trouble with plain ubuntu too.
[00:27] <ilovefairuz> makson: even if they did, with noexec they won't be able to execute it
[00:28] <octavio> ok now it dont do anything when i press tap,did you wanna me to put ./autog next to lxdream-0.91
[00:28] <rww> MChaver: not until it's released. #ubuntu+1 is for development versions
[00:28] <MChaver> alright thanks
[00:28] <coz_> octavio,   yes type   ./autog  then hit the tab button once to complete it so it says  ./autogen.sh
[00:28] <jeeves_Moss> anyone able to take a stab @ this?  http://pastebin.com/rsPsg49i
[00:28] <oli_> free my hardware 9200
[00:28] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, I did a "locate icedtea6-plugin" and manually killed them all.
[00:28] <hippiemalo> almoxarife, yeah. the ./configure install couldn't cp to some directories.
[00:28] <coz_> octavio,  or simply type   ./autogen.sh
[00:28] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, http://pastebin.com/rsPsg49i
[00:29] <zcat[1]> damn fingerprint on CD... it gets 90% of the way through fetching packages and then breaks!
[00:29] <makson> ilovefairuz: i guess im confused when were talking about mounting the FS? I guess that's what happens with chroot, i mount to a folder which then becomes the chroot env? i can do that with noexec? it will still run things like grep rgiht?
[00:29] <octavio> cok
[00:29] <zcat[1]> hopefully this time it'll work
[00:29] <hippiemalo> Make: Error 1 or some one else. almoxarife
[00:29] <coz_> jeeves_Moss,   yikes !   this is a pain!   not sure I can help at this point... if  no one else can here try the ##linux channel
[00:29] <coz_> octavio,  ok is that working?
[00:30] <jeeves_Moss> coz_, thanks.  this is generally making me mad
[00:30] <octavio> coz i did and press enter after that sayed didnt find directory
[00:30] <tyler_d|werkin> and after doing iwconfig I determined that the device is eth1... on doing sudo ifup eth1 I get ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1?
[00:30] <coz_> jeeves_Moss,  I can completely understand why
[00:30] <hippiemalo> join #ubuntu-es
[00:30] <coz_> octavio,  ok close the terminal
[00:30] <ilovefairuz> makson: if you put their home directories (/home) on a separate partition and add 'noexec' to the mount options in /etc/fstab, they won't be able to execute any binaries located inside their home directory, but they can use system binaries (/bin, /usr/bin, etc)
[00:30] <octavio> coz k
[00:30] <coz_> octavio,  open a fresh terminal and type    cd  Desktop
[00:31] <rideh> Tip to others, make sure when you are using 2 monitors you get the same pixel pitch.  If your ocd the offset will anoy you to no end
[00:31] <rwhe> experiencing pulseaudio issues under lucid (no sound at all).
[00:31] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: did you try the command I gave earlier?
[00:31] <rideh> I have gotten my xinerama to respect my window positioning but now my cursor dissapears when its above screen1
[00:31] <octavio> coz ok same Desktop now
[00:31] <coz_> octavio,  then tyep    cd  lxdream  and hit the key board Tab button once and then hit enter
[00:31] <makson> ilovefairuz: ok a partition, so is there a way to resize my active boxes partition, its one big one now, and then create a new partition for the chroot env with noexec? something like gpart?
[00:31] <oli_> my graphic card it's slow and not free, how free a power of ati radeon 9200 on ubuntu 9.10
[00:31] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, yes, it allowed the update to happen, then errored out @ that line @ the end of the update
[00:32] <rideh> and if i try to drag a window above screen0 it resets to the bottom of screen 1. very odd
[00:32] <ilovefairuz> makson: yes, gparted
[00:32] <_pr0t0type_> Hello everyone.  Does anyone know how to configure your shell to show all hidden files/folders by default?  I've seen that when it's enabled, the command-line prompt has a:  [~]:  combo.  Anyone know about this?
[00:32] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: hmmm, did I have you remove the icedtea6-plugin.postinst script?
[00:32] <Jinxzs> is it possible to make a partition after the installation.
[00:32] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, no?
[00:32] <octavio> coz now its saying the samething with out the cd
[00:33] <ilovefairuz> _pr0t0type_: alias ls='ls -a'
[00:33] <coz_> octavio,  ??  does it not say you are in lxdream  ?
[00:33] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: rm that then, repost any further errors
[00:33] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, one sec
[00:33] <coz_> octavio,  i am going to PM you so look for it
[00:33] <ilovefairuz> Jinxzs: yes it's possible, use the gparted livecd
[00:33] <_pr0t0type_> ilovefairuz: sweet! So I'll add that to my bashrc.  Thanks
[00:33] <oli_> e, i gow install windows xp, and ati drivers for nt 5
[00:33] <oli_> bey
[00:33] <octavio> coz nope it saying wat i typed but with out the cd word
[00:33] <rwhe> hi everyone, can anyone help with my lucid pulseaudio problems? no sound.
[00:33] <slimjimflim> anybody else having any problems w/ usb keyboards since the kernel patch?
[00:34] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, hummm, looks to be working.  one more sec please
[00:34] <oli_> yes
[00:34] <ilovefairuz> !sound | rwhe
[00:34] <slimjimflim> rwhe: don't ask to ask, just ask
[00:34] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, YES!!!  ok, that seems to have fixed it.  now, may I ask what that file does so I know for next time?
[00:34] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: ok, make sure to remove the package, apt-get clean, and then try again
[00:35] <petriborg1> hi does anyone have any suggestion as to how I can get my atheros AR5001X+ card working in ubuntu 10.04? I've got it working *sometimes* by installing compat-wireless kernel modules... But I keep running into problems where NetworkManager is unable to acquire the WPA2 connection
[00:35] <rideh> coz_: Got a quick sec for a xinerama question?
[00:35] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: it is just a "packaging" file.  postinst = post-installation script
[00:36] <hippiemalo> almoxarife, yeah. the ./configure install couldn't cp to some directories.
[00:36] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, ahhh, ok.  thanks.
[00:36] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: pastebin: lshw -C network, and how did you install compat-wireless? manually compiled it or from a package/
[00:36] <oli_> sometime on spec. hardware linux kernel, work fine some of time day or less, and then after come a nigtmer...
[00:36] <hippiemalo> Koshie, All in all, I've unpackaged the vmd tar then I configured the ./configure file. then I cd to src and maked 'sudo make install'.
[00:36] <coz_> rideh,  I am not too up on xinerama  guy sorry   I have not dealt with it for a few years now
[00:36] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, do you have another minute to track down what keeps causing an auth popup every time I open FF?
[00:36] <petriborg1> @ilovefairuz by the package
[00:36] <petriborg1> i'll get the pastebin
[00:36] <rideh> coz_: all console?
[00:36] <ChogyDan> jeeves_Moss: sorry, I dunno
[00:36] <ilovefairuz> !compile | hippiemalo, use checkinstall ---
[00:37] <SH-Chris> How i DISPISE this PC :|
[00:37] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: pastebin lshw -C network
[00:37] <petriborg1> http://pastebin.com/UJBHUkFN
[00:37] <petriborg1> there you go
[00:37] <jeeves_Moss> ChogyDan, is there a way to track what program is connected to a port #?  the popup keeps asking for a username/pass on localhost:<random port>
[00:37] <dude1> aloha
[00:37] <dude1> i got a question
[00:37] <SH-Chris> My phone has more ram than this POS...
[00:37] <SH-Chris> anyways
[00:38] <jeeves_Moss> SH-Chris, LOL, I know that feeling
[00:38] <SH-Chris> Anyways
[00:38] <SH-Chris> Lol..
[00:38] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: what's the name of the package?
[00:38] <SH-Chris> I have the rescue options loaded
[00:38] <SH-Chris> I need to know which to select
[00:39] <petriborg1> linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-24-generic   linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[00:39] <zcat[1]> Applying changes...
[00:39] <petriborg1> those are the 2 that install compat-wireless
[00:39] <psycho789> how much space do you guys suggest I allocate for ubuntu?
[00:39] <SH-Chris> DasEi: I have rescue options, dont kno wwhich to choose tho
[00:39] <Guest63232> Hello guys i am chatting from backtrak 4
[00:39] <Guest63232> its cooooooooooooooooool
[00:39] <ilovefairuz> !who | petriborg1
[00:39] <chroniK> really Guest63232 ?
[00:39] <DasEi> SH-Chris: xsserver-related ?!
[00:39] <dude1> right now i am transferring a lot of files via FTP and Nautilus tells me it takes about four more hours. I'd like to go to sleep now, but I don't want my computer to be running all night. is here any way to tell my computer to "shutdown -h" right after the "file operations"-dialog is finished?
[00:40] <Guest63232> yeah!
[00:40] <chroniK> what are u using it for? ;p
[00:40] <petriborg1> ok ilovefairuz i will do that - the 2 modules are linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.32-24-generic  linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[00:40] <oli_> ubuntu to much more change, som that work change
[00:40] <zcat[1]> psycho789, all of it ;)
[00:40] <zcat[1]> I like to keep my installs simple.. everything is / and a little at the end for swap
[00:40] <chroniK> I'v messed with the wifi section a bit..
[00:40] <SH-Chris> DasEi: It doesnt show that..
[00:40] <Guest63232> for hacking wep password from my neighbours wifi
[00:40] <Guest63232> LOL
[00:40] <SH-Chris> DasEi: It give me shell execution options as well as reinstalling GRUB
[00:40] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: you should use only the latter, it will automatically depend on the latest version
[00:40] <chroniK> ;DD
[00:40] <oli_> why change the confgi of grub
[00:40] <jeeves_Moss> Guest63232, is it wep or wpa?
[00:40] <oli_> old menu.lst simple and cool
[00:41] <oli_> new crap
[00:41] <SH-Chris> Guest63232: AWE, lucky. Youre wifi card supports injection :(
[00:41] <jeeves_Moss> SH-Chris, cards are cheap!  e-bay man
[00:41] <chroniK> my old netgear supports injection ;)
[00:41] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - sure understood
[00:41] <DasEi> SH-Chris: it was your graphics, so you'd chroot into the hd first
[00:41] <Kenny_Duehit> when using fdisk to mount a usb hard drive, what is the device name? fdisk /dev/????
[00:41] <dude1> is there no way to shutdown automatically after a FTP file transfer finishes?
[00:42] <SH-Chris> DasEi: ihave a dev option and one that says "Execute a shell in teh installer environment"
[00:42] <Kenny_Duehit> *fdisk to read a usb hard drive
[00:42] <chroniK> i was reading about using Graphics card power to speeding the cracking/scanning process up
[00:42] <zcat[1]> Kenny_Duehit, usually /dev/sdb, dmesg will tell you
[00:42] <chroniK> any know out about that?
[00:42] <chroniK> any1*
[00:42] <Oer> !mount
[00:42] <Kenny_Duehit> zcat[1]: thanks
[00:42] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - the error I think i'm getting is NetworkManager: <info>  (wlan0): deactivating device (reason: 38). -- not sure what that means tho
[00:42] <oli_> sometime hellp I want  put to /dev/null...
[00:42] <makson> ilovefairuz: thanks dude, I appricate it. I think that will work for now.
[00:42] <zcat[1]> also fdisk isn't used to mount.. mount is used to mount ;)
[00:43] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9537066
[00:43] <Kenny_Duehit> zcat[1]: ahahahaha I forgot to turn on the external HD.   DERP!!!
[00:43] <zcat[1]> Kenny_Duehit, you fail! ;)
[00:43] <Kenny_Duehit> zcat[1]: indeed
[00:43] <ilovefairuz> makson: you're welcome
[00:44] <Kenny_Duehit> http://i.imgur.com/1zlPd.jpg
[00:44] <oli_> on next week I instal freespire and use cnr.com
[00:44] <oli_> bey
[00:44] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - yeah i've seen this forum post, but madwifi doesn't seem to work for me at all, possibly because HAL is dead in 10.04?
[00:44] <zcat[1]> cam in the other day to sort out a printer problem here, turned out the USB plug was unplugged. I didn't spot it as fast as I should have either, spent way too long trying to figure out the problem.
[00:45] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - the strange thing is that I've *almost* got the ath5k drivers working in 10.04 for me, I can get it to connect if I initiate the wifi by CLI *before* i login to gnome ( I do this by ssh and using cnetworkmanager)
[00:45] <zcat[1]> Hmm, Frank's out for about an hour and a half. Should I install Ubuntu on the other desktop here? ;)
[00:45] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: madwifi's HAL is different from the now dead HAL
[00:45] <SH-Chris> DasEi: Any help as to which option i choose?
[00:46] <froschi> um, why is there /usr/share/doc/mono on my system while apt-get says it's not installed? i hate that stuff and need the 20MB
[00:46] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: how you tried wicd?
[00:46] <petriborg1> but yet madwifi isn't supported by anything including wpa_suplicant / NetworkManager
[00:46] <froschi> oops.... /usr/lib/mono i mean... deleted it :)
[00:46] <zcat[1]> I should probably boot up a live CD and evaluate hardware support, then I can bring up ubuntu as an option in future
[00:46] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - yes i tried wicd i thad the same problem as the NM
[00:46] <dude2> right now i am transferring a lot of files via FTP and Nautilus tells me it takes about four more hours. I'd like to go to sleep now, but I don't want my computer to be running all night. is here any way to tell my computer to "shutdown -h" right after the "file operations"-dialog is finished?
[00:46] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz both wicd and NM would die trying to init WPA
[00:47] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: post the snippet from /var/log/messages relevant to the connection, all of it
[00:47] <beardy> petriborg1: Not at all..
[00:47] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - i'll post the daemon.log into a pastbin
[00:48] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: no, the 'messages' log
[00:48] <c3l> if I make changes to a user, does that user have to log out and in for the new changes to get applied?
[00:48] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - ok
[00:48] <ilovefairuz> c3l: what kind of changes?
[00:49] <beardy> c3l: If you mean to their shell's profile, yes. Or 'source' the altered file.
[00:49] <dude1> is there any way to tell my computer to "shutdown -h" right after the "file operations"-dialog is finished?
[00:49] <zcat[1]> c3l, generally yes
[00:49] <c3l> ilovefairuz: permissions to use sudo, what groups the user belongs to etc
[00:50] <zcat[1]> c3l in my experience, things like than the user has to log out for them to take effect
[00:50] <beardy> c3l: Group memberships yes, re-login is necessary.
[00:50] <c3l> beardy: I was thinking more about the permission to use sudo or not, and what groups the user belongs to
[00:50] <ilovefairuz> dude1: you can specify a time
[00:50] <c3l> beardy: oh thanks
[00:50] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - er how do  i tell which part is the relevant part of the message log?
[00:50] <ilovefairuz> c3l: no and no
[00:51] <beardy> c3l: sudo changes will work as soon as they're addded.
[00:51] <dude1> ilovefairuz: you mean like "sudo shutdown -h +240"?
[00:51] <rideh> Anyone any good with Xinerama in here?
[00:51] <c3l> ilovefairuz: no and no? so if I remove some groups and add some groups to a user, those changes will be in use directly?
[00:51] <zcat[1]> beardy, you sure? sudu permissions as in being added to the sys group.. I'm pretty sure you're wrong about this
[00:51] <ilovefairuz> dude1: or use xx:yy ( a specifc time in 24 hr format), type man shutdown in a terminal
[00:52] <froschi> ....mmm... i tried 'apt-cache search --installed mono' ... from the man i know this doesn't work (works only for depends).... what is the correct way? (in the ssh/term/shell.... i don't have no easy remote gui connection to the machine)...?
[00:52] <beardy> c3l: But if the new sudo policies involves membership of new groups, re-login.
[00:52] <c3l> rideh: I dont know if im good at it, but I use xinerama and can set it up, what do you need?
[00:52] <ilovefairuz> c3l: as far as i know, yes
[00:52] <beardy> zcat[1]: I'm not wrong.
[00:53] <c3l> beardy: ilovefairuz: you two are basically telling me the oposite
[00:53] <dude1> but I'd like it to shutdown after the transfer is finished and not like, perhaps, an hour later or so … is there no way to do this? the window "file operations" closes itself, can't it trigger a shutdown by this or anything?
[00:53] <ilovefairuz> c3l: not really, it depends on the specific scenario
[00:53] <zcat[1]> beardy, adding permissions to sudoers, sure.. adding user to a group that has sudo access, you have to log out and back in again so your shell is in the group
[00:53] <SH-Chris> Sad face, seems dasEi cant help meh :(
[00:53] <rideh> c3l: Works fine 1 landscape 1 portrait. Once i horizontally aligned the monitors (bottom edge) the top half of the portrait monitor became unusable.. any ideas?
[00:53] <c3l> ilovefairuz: oh, I see
[00:53] <ilovefairuz> c3l: what kind of changes are you making? exactly what they are?
[00:53] <makson> how can i blcok users form using the sudo command?
[00:54] <beardy> zcat[1]: Did you read anything of what I said?
[00:54] <makson> or the su - command?
[00:54] <mikeliss> I'm having issues connecting to cups on my localhost. I don't think I've done anything remotely related to printer settings in a LONG time. Anybody know why I would have this problem?
[00:54] <maco> makson: well if there's no root password "su -" without a user name after it will always fail
[00:54] <maco> makson: with a username after it, theyd have to know that user's password
[00:54] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - http://pastebin.com/U3BxjKH6
[00:54] <ilovefairuz> makson: 'su -' requires knowing the root password, and use: EDITOR=nano visudo
[00:54] <SH-Chris> Can anybody else help me with my problem?
[00:54] <c3l> ilovefairuz: I want to remove sudo permission, I guess thats removing the user from the admin group, and add a new user which has sudo permissions, but the adding wont be any problem
[00:54] <maco> makson:  if you remove them from tha "admin" group they wont have automatic access to sudo either
[00:54] <rwhe> how do i open sound preferences? i don't see it under System > Prefs
[00:54] <mikeliss> I've tried restarting cups, but to no avail, and I'm just frustrated cause all I want to do is print a recipe to make dinner.
[00:55] <maco> makson: /etc/sudoers by default only allows members of the admin group to use sudo
[00:55] <frankS2> Hi i just downloaded firefox beta , when i try to run it i get firefox-bin no such file or directory, when i run ./firefox-bin
[00:55] <frankS2> but it is there
[00:55] <c3l> rideh: what tool are you doing it with, try some gui frontend such as arandr
[00:55] <zcat[1]> beardy, yes.. is depends on 'how' you're giving the user access to sudo. Un ubuntu the usual way is ad them to whatever group has admin rights, adm I think
[00:55] <zcat[1]> bah, never mind
[00:55] <rideh> c3l: i hardcoded the xorg.conf. I'm using nvidia drivers
[00:56] <ilovefairuz> c3l: i think you won't need to logout for this
[00:56] <SH-Chris> I need help with getting ubuntu to work with my display cause whenever i load ubuntu the display cuts out on me
[00:56] <beardy> zcat[1]: I told him that group adds requires a re-login.
[00:56] <zcat[1]> beardy, yeah, ok.
[00:56] <c3l> rideh: xrander should read it, arandr is just a graphical frontend to xrandr. I suggest trying it. but make a backup of your xorg.conf
[00:56] <rwhe> how do I reinstall Sound Preferences?
[00:56] <mikeliss> frankS2: look in the directory you downloaded again. It has an sh script that I believe works. Try it from the terminal.
[00:57] <dude1> well, hell then
[00:57] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: that's not the connection attempt, try to connect and use 'tail' on the file
[00:57] <makson> maco: ilovefairuz  thanks guys... I guess i'll just create a new group and just give them regular user access
[00:57] <maco> makson: you dont need a new group
[00:57] <petriborg1> ok ilovefairuz
[00:57] <c3l> ilovefairuz: thanks, I guess Ill notice ;)
[00:57] <rideh> c3l: ok will do
[00:57] <maco> makson: users can be in multiple groups. by default they are in a group with the same name as their user, but you can add them to admin *in addition* if you like. so simply dont
[00:57] <frankS2> mikeliss, yes thanks ive done so, both -run and firefox
[00:57]  * SH-Chris is paitiently waiting for someone to figure out his problem...
[00:57] <hiexpo> what app should i use to keep track of  internet usage ?
[00:58] <maco> makson: when you add a user through system -> administration -> users and groups you can pick between adding an administrative user or a desktop user. you want desktop
[00:58] <maco> makson: theyll still be able to type sudo, but they'll always get a permission denied when they try
[00:58] <zcat[1]> now why would the perl package from my 10.04 CD be 'corrupt' if the MD5 of the ISO is correct disk passed a self-test?
[00:59] <makson> maco:  using terminal
[00:59] <ilovefairuz> zcat[1]: hardware issue? perhaps just dust
[00:59] <mikeliss> frankS2: and neither works? Do you get any errors in the terminal?
[00:59] <makson> maco: I want to make a new group
[00:59] <maco> makson: in that case, sudo nano /etc/group
[00:59] <maco> makson: oh? why?
[00:59] <mikeliss> Does anybody know why localhost wouldn't be able to connect to cups?
[00:59] <mikeliss> I really, really want to print something.
[00:59] <maco> makson: you dont need a new group to make people not be in the admin group....
[00:59] <zcat[1]> ilovefairuz, yeah, just got anotehr one too. Probably didn't clean the disk properly
[01:00] <beardy> hiexpo: There's many. I like vnstat.
[01:00] <maco> makson: a new group would be "sudo groupadd" though
[01:00] <zcat[1]> liboobs .. lol
[01:00] <makson> maco: no i wan't to for management purposes.
[01:00] <hiexpo> beardy,  yah was jusy looking at that
[01:00] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - http://pastebin.com/kKhNaCuc
[01:00] <ilovefairuz> zcat[1]: use usb if you can, must faster
[01:00] <hiexpo> beardy,  thanks
[01:00] <zcat[1]> Don't know if it's safe t ostop the isntall this far though
[01:00]  * SH-Chris is PATIENTLY waiting :|
[01:00] <zcat[1]> err, upgrade I mean
[01:01] <makson> maco: gotcha, and is there a quick way to see what groups a user is apart of?
[01:01] <maco> makson: you can see what groups the running user is part of by running "groups"
[01:01] <zcat[1]> will just reinstall the packages later
[01:01] <maco> makson: i think "groups foo" to find out foo's groups works too
[01:01] <hiexpo> beardy,  does run upon boot ?
[01:02] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: are you sure the password and authenticated type selected is correct?
[01:02] <makson> maco: thanks
[01:02] <beardy> SH-Chris: Generally in help channels you need to provide enough details of your problem for anyone to be able to help you. Rewrite your question, use a pastebin if there is much output. Provide facts, what do you want to do, what goes wrong, and when.
[01:02] <rooks> routing problem, i have [desktop]---[server]---[isp-router]---{funny cat images}  scenario, i enabled on server /proc///ip_forward  and set up routes so default is on interface facing the router, but still i cant access the net and funny cat images from desktop, any help please
[01:02] <makson> maco: my user i created isn't apart of the admin groups yet it can still su - and sudo
[01:03] <beardy> hiexpo: Yes.
[01:03] <maco> makson: mmm is it called adm maybe?
[01:03] <babele> hi there
[01:03] <maco> makson: oh look at that... on lucid its called sudo
[01:03] <babele> the italian channel does not esist????
[01:03] <maco> makson: *grumble about things changing*
[01:03] <maco> babele: #ubuntu-it
[01:03] <tammem> hi
[01:03] <zcat[1]> all users can run the su and sudo commands, they just can't get any extra rights through them...
[01:03] <Jordan_U> !helpme | SH-Chris
[01:04] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - here is some more that just came out of tail - http://pastebin.com/qHxtQKKC - I see that it did key_mgmt WPA-PSK and pairwise TKIP CCMP which is both correct
[01:04] <babele> ok tnk u maco
[01:04] <sri> does ubuntu probe for new monitors when waking up from sleep?
[01:04] <SH-Chris> Lol, k
[01:04]  * sri switches between dual monitors and a laptop screen depending on where he is.
[01:04] <sri> and the nvidia driver makes it a pain to manually setup twinview.
[01:05]  * sri wants to either setup an xorg.conf that will let me switch to a dual monitor mode automatically, or load a config when it detects I'm on a port replicator.
[01:05] <sri> is that possible or is this a problem with nvidia's proprietary madness?
[01:05] <frankS2> mikeliss, no, just the "does not exists"
[01:05] <sri> searching hasn't shown me much..  it doesn't seem like acpi does a probe
[01:05] <bonedragon> I messed up my language by adding and removing spanish...is there a smaller more specific channel that can address language questions?
[01:06] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: well it looks random, have you tried modprobe -r athk5 and then modprobe it again ?(after you login to gnome)
[01:06] <zcat[1]> sri, I think the nvidia thingy has some way of switching between different profiles...
[01:06] <mikeliss> frankS2: Hmmm...you got me.
[01:06] <zcat[1]> not at home though, so can't check
[01:06] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - yeah that didn't work, but if I did that after just sshing in that would allow it to work
[01:07] <mikeliss> frankS2: I've had issues with this myself, but I can usually resolve them by trying a couple different things. You might try the mozilla/firefox irc channel.
[01:07] <sri> zcat[1]: you'd think so but it doesn't quite work the way I want it to.  teh way it sets up the metamodes is a bit wierd.
[01:07] <mao12345> alguien me puede redirigir al foro de ubuntu en español?
[01:07] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: you should file a bug
[01:07] <zcat[1]> GAH, anotehr corrupted package
[01:07] <sri> zcat[1]: right now it works if I just boot straight, and not wake up from sleep.
[01:07] <mao12345>  alguien me puede redirigir al foro de ubuntu en español porfavor?
[01:08] <Oer> !es | mao12345,
[01:08] <beardy> Isn't the bot searchable?
[01:08] <sri> zcat[1]: but really should it detect automatically..  maybe I should just post on nvidia's forum .
[01:09] <Total_Havic> jr
[01:09] <beardy> bonedragon: You might want what ubottu just said too.
[01:09] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: have you using using nmcli from inside gnome in a  terminal ?
[01:09] <zcat[1]> really starting to wonder if lucid is even going to boot after this upgrade.. how important are perl, liboobs and iagno?
[01:09] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - i've been talking to the compat-wireless people and one guy seems to have the same set working in 2.6.35 - do you have any suggestions about how to use that kernel?
[01:09] <mao12345> how can i install the adobe creative suite cs4 in wine 1.2
[01:09] <mao12345> ??
[01:09] <sri> zcat[1]: I think perl is pretty important.
[01:10] <wechat> !maverick
[01:10] <mao12345> how can i install the adobe creative suite cs4 in wine 1.2
[01:10] <wechat> ty > ubottu
[01:10] <sri> zcat[1]: liboobs is I believe something related to the desktop.
[01:10] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - I've been using cnetworkmanager from the terminal when I've managed to get it to work - I've never heard of nmcli
[01:10] <Total_Havic> kill
[01:10] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - what package is nmcli from?
[01:10] <bonedragon> beardy: sorry i am new to xchat and don't know how to wisper
[01:11] <Oer> mao12345, wineHQ http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14514
[01:11] <beardy> bonedragon: Good, we prefer talking outloud in general.
[01:11] <mao12345> thanks Oer
[01:11] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: not packaged, but i doubt it would work if cnetworkmanager didn't
[01:12] <Chevy787> Hey, I was thinking of switching over to ubuntu on my laptop and used the windows installtion version just to test out if it was gonna work for me. I got all my drivers and such working, but as I attempted to play a x264 encoded mkv with vorbis audio with the mplayer I got from the software center I began to exerpeince some problems. I tried to open the mkv, but I got some error that I've now forgotten. It seems it was with the video rend
[01:12] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - cnetworkmanager did work when logged in via ssh, but not when logged in via gnome which is just wierd ::shrug::
[01:12] <nunojpg> apt-get source linux-image-2.6.32-22 ends up downloading the most recent kernel
[01:12] <realubot> I have problem getting sound to work on Ubuntu 10.04 using HDMI. What may be the problem?
[01:13] <nunojpg> apt-get recplaces the package with "linux", and then it is the most recent one
[01:13] <nunojpg> can I force to be exactaly that?
[01:13] <realubot> The sound doesn't work, independent of movies, music, system sound etc.
[01:13] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: try killing nm-applet before using cnetworkmanager
[01:13] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - yeah i had to disable nm-applet for it to work at all, I've already done that :-)
[01:14] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: not disable, kill
[01:14] <ilovefairuz> !sound | realubot
[01:15] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - I also was able to get it to work by completely killing out NM and wpa_supplicant and manually constructing a wpa_supplicant.conf etc
[01:15] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - I removed nm-applet from the startup programs, the process is never launched period
[01:16] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - actually nm-applet has been bugged for me in 10.04 anyway, it never shows up in the panel at all so its completely broken
[01:16] <llvllonk> anyone know how to edit to locate a file?  I used dmesg and it gave me this error for my Broadcom wireless: "b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode15.fw
[01:16] <llvllonk> b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43-open/ucode15.fw
[01:16] <llvllonk> b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode15.fw" not found
[01:16] <llvllonk> b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43-open/ucode15.fw" not found
[01:16] <llvllonk> "
[01:16] <FloodBot3> llvllonk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: if you log out after you were logged in, does it work?
[01:16] <ilovefairuz> !flood > llvllonk
[01:16] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - hm let me try it i'll get back to you
[01:17] <c3l> how do I show more info about a group, what it allows etc, for example the admin group. I cant find more info about it that its gid and what users in it
[01:18] <DGM> hey! After setting up a network bridge (br0) to my eth1 for my virtual server, connecting to ssh (and i probably everything else) to the ip on eth0 is reaaaally slow. When i disable the bridge on eth1 its fine again. Any ideas?
[01:19] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - after being logged in it seems to be forever broken
[01:19] <soreau> DGM: Why are you bridging the connections?
[01:19] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - rebooting the box fixes it tho
[01:20] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: even with just wpa supplicant ?
[01:20] <DGM> soreau: i'm having a windows server running on KVM
[01:20] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - you mean what happens if i kill NM and everything related to it and just manage it via wpa_suplicant?
[01:20] <realubot> ilovefairuz: I have done that already.
[01:21] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: yes , inside gnome
[01:21] <JabDesign> after the last firefox update was pushed out for 3.6, it appears that Firefox spikes to 90%+ CPU quite frequently... Saw there was an IPv6 thread on it, but that didn't appear to fix it, looks like Javascript sends the updated firefox for a spin
[01:21] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - i'll try it and let you know
[01:21] <JabDesign> pretty much, the ubuntu firefox isn't usable
[01:21] <DGM> i usually instal chrome pretty much. :>
[01:21] <ilovefairuz> realubot: did it ever work since you installed ubuntu ?
[01:22] <DGM> 3.6.8 running fine here on 64 bit
[01:24] <Jinxzs> mine also 3.6.8 is fine
[01:24] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - wpa_supplicant -D wext -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf stdout: Authentication with 00:40:10:20:00:03 timed out.
[01:24] <mao12345> Fucking wine...i cant install and run photoshop CS4, in design CS4, and illustrator CS4. i have the adobe master collection cs4 but not works!!!!! if i dont find the way of use this programs in wine (no virtualbox) i go back to windows obligate, Please HELP MEEE (and sorry by my bad english)
[01:25] <maco> !language | mao12345
[01:25] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - so no, it appears that wpa_sup fails itself
[01:25] <mao12345> ok
[01:25] <petriborg1> if i reboot this and do it again though, it does work
[01:25] <Jinxzs> !language | Jinxzs
[01:25] <maco> mao12345: did you follow the workaround directions on the wine appdb?
[01:25] <odiopastebin> Does anybody here can help me with samba ? it doesn't works, if i try to do service smbd start or stop I just got rare messages like this "smbd start/running, process 7383" . what can I do ?
[01:25] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - if i reboot this and do it again though, it does work
[01:25] <maco> mao12345: it clearly says on there that the installer DOES NOT WORK in the normal way and a workaround is available
[01:26] <Jinxzs> !sound | Jinxzs
[01:26] <mao12345> yes i install winetricks and make all the tutorals that i found in google
[01:26] <maco> Jinxzs: please experiment with the bot in PM
[01:26] <webroasters> can i get some help about my hostname?? on my Ubuntu server??
[01:26] <mao12345> maco: yes i install winetricks and make all the tutorals that i found in google
[01:26] <Jinxzs> im so sorry..okay i will
[01:26] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: try modprobing off and on, and then wpa_supplicant it?
[01:27] <c3l> how do I show more info about a group, what it allows etc, for example the admin group. I cant find more info about it that its gid and what users in it
[01:27] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - yeah i modprobe -r ath5k and on and tried wpa_sup
[01:27] <rooks> how to disable update-grub ? i have pxebooted machine and i dont need grub, i uninstalled grub-common, but its still there and it gives errors when updating kernel
[01:27] <mao12345> the installer runs great...but when is installing crash and throught a error, only in design and illustrator open, but close inmmediatly
[01:27] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: pastebin lsmod
[01:28] <mao12345> maco:  the installer runs great...but when is installing crash and throught a error, only in design and illustrator open, but close inmmediatly
[01:28] <odiopastebin> Does anybody here can help me with samba ? it doesn't works, if i try to do service smbd start or stop I just got rare messages like this "smbd start/running, process 7383" . what can I do ?
[01:28] <maco> mao12345: you read http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8646 ?
[01:28] <maco> mao12345: specifically the CS4 link? http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14514
[01:29] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - http://pastebin.com/zJthVuDG
[01:29] <aguitel> rooks, if you purge update-grub ?
[01:29] <maco> mao12345: it says to install an older version of winetricks then try the cs4 install then upgrade wine and install more bits
[01:30] <scvrory> hi, i installed mt-daapd, and get the login request when i access the web interface but it doesn't accept my specified admin_pw
[01:30] <maco> !pm | mao12345
[01:30] <mao12345> maco:  yes i make this tuto and illustrator dont works
[01:31] <maco> mao12345: it says on that page that illustrator doesnt run
[01:31] <maco> mao12345:  so why are you surprised?
[01:31] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: modprobe these:   ath5k ath cfg80211 mac80211
[01:31] <mao12345> because i need it urgently
[01:31] <DGM> mao12345: run it in a virtual machine with windows on it, for example virtualbox
[01:31] <kish> how do i set bash completion to work
[01:31] <kish> to work for stuff like `ifconfig eth..
[01:31] <mao12345> i make this and its very very slow
[01:31] <kish> hit tab and it pops eth0
[01:31] <maco> mao12345: nothing short of writing the code necessary to make it supported will help you
[01:32] <maco> mao12345: is there a reason you need illustrator that inkscape will not work?
[01:32] <DGM> mao12345: if virtualbox is slow aswell and you MUST have illustator, you could always dual boot
[01:32] <mao12345> maco: inkscape yes but dont have all the functions that i need
[01:33] <kish> !bash-completion
[01:33] <maco> mao12345: then you need a windows partition or a windows vm. nothing we can do about adobe not supporting linux. feel free to write to them and complain about their lack of support
[01:33] <maco> mao12345: wine is a maybe-if-you're-lucky thing, not a sure-thing
[01:34] <DGM> though its getting a lot better lately. I can run a lot more that i couldnt last year its amazing
[01:34] <ilovefairuz> kish: write new one, use 'complete' command
[01:34] <mao12345> that is the problem, i hate windows and i love linux, last year i format windows 2 times per month
[01:35] <Chevy787> mao12345, you were doing something wrong
[01:35] <Chevy787> clearly
[01:35] <devunt> heldo
[01:35] <ilovefairuz> !hi | devunt
[01:36] <ilovefairuz> mao12345: use alternatives
[01:36] <mao12345> i format windows 2 times per month because windows began slow and make impossible to work in it, on the other hand, linux is fast and secure
[01:36] <maco> mao12345: put windows in a vm then
[01:36] <WolfDogDesigns> ilovefairuz: unfortunately thats not always viable :(
[01:36] <DGM> and windows isnt that bad that you need to format twice per month.. then you really are doing something incredibly weird with it
[01:37] <maco> mao12345: you can take a snapshot of the vm and revert it to before-it-got-crappy when stuff goes wrong
[01:37] <savid> Why is it when I install wine1.2, it only gives me wine-1.1.42?
[01:37] <DGM> if virtualbox is too slow aswell you might even consider a new pc :P
[01:37] <mao12345> DGM: yes, i use ares for download music
[01:37] <ilovefairuz> WolfDogDesigns: then use a VM
[01:37] <mao12345> this is the cause of virus
[01:37] <DGM> so the problem is between the chair and the keyboard
[01:38] <DGM> not windows :)
[01:38] <maco> ilovefairuz: i get the impression mao12345 is a professional artist and needs some of the more advanced features that inkscape doesnt yet support. though i do recommend trying the latest version of inkscape, which adds more features
[01:38] <WolfDogDesigns> even with a VM or Wine... using something like MSWord still makes u feel dirty :( but sometimes theres no choice
[01:38] <ilovefairuz> mao12345: why didn't you use virtualbox? you can snapshot the clean version and return to it if you get viruses
[01:38] <DGM> ilovefairuz:  he said it was too slow
[01:38] <maco> mao12345:  new release of inkscape is due out in the next couple weeks i think
[01:38] <mao12345> now i have vmware player with xp for emergency, if you know a page that show who install the adobe cs4 suite please mail me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:39] <hiexpo> use windows > it tells you has windows  :)
[01:39] <maco> mao12345: it's version 0.48 and you can try it out by getting it from launchpad http://www.inkscape.org/bzr.php?lang=en
[01:39] <DGM> you could try virtualbox instead of vmware player
[01:39] <T-20> weekekeke
[01:40] <maco> mao12345: its not a matter of how-to-install
[01:40] <T-20> Hi?
[01:40] <Jinxzs> WolfDogDesigns, how to install ares ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/473783/
[01:40] <T-20> hooy!...
[01:40] <odiopastebin> Does anybody here can help me with samba ? it doesn't works, if i try to do service smbd start or stop I just got rare messages like this "smbd start/running, process 7383" . what can I do ?
[01:40] <T-20> good morning...
[01:40] <ilovefairuz> DGM: mao12345: shut down extra services, turn off visual styles, disable paging, there are stuff to do to optimize windows in a VM, ask in ##windows
[01:40] <hiexpo> !hi > T-20
[01:40] <maco> mao12345: its a matter of writing the code to make it go.  you need a software developer who can reimplement the missing pieces of the win32 api in wine
[01:41] <DGM> Jinxzs: what is ares? There is a libares package but nothing with ares?
[01:41] <ilovefairuz> odiopastebin: that's not an error message
[01:41] <mao12345> maco: how can i make wine non-free but fully compatible copying the dll and native archives??
[01:41] <Jinxzs> wolf says it used to download mp3s
[01:41] <maco> mao12345: yes, copying dll's from windows sometimes makes thinks work
[01:41] <maco> *thing
[01:41] <maco> *things
[01:42] <happyface> I dual boot and want to sync my iPhone (podcasts) with Ubuntu and Windows concurrently, how can I do this?
[01:42] <DGM> its a windows program, not an ubuntu package
[01:42] <hiexpo> !windows
[01:42] <mao12345> how do you think of React OS
[01:42] <mao12345> ??
[01:43] <ilovefairuz> mao12345: it's far from complete, and please only ask ubuntu questios
[01:43] <KE1HA> happyface, yo can only interact with an OS if it's operational, if you dual booting, only one is operational at a time, so you'd have to sync one, then sync the other.
[01:43] <hiexpo> !ot > mao12345
[01:43] <SH-Chris> How do i disable KMS?
[01:46] <soreau> SH-Chris: Usually, booting with nomodeset as a kernel arg will do it
[01:46] <headkase314> SH-Chris, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[01:46] <SH-Chris> kk
[01:47] <kish> !complete
[01:47] <soreau> SH-Chris: You can also use i915.modeset=0, substituting i915 for the name of your kernel module (radeon or nouveau)
[01:47] <basix-> is there a good manual similar to the "...For Dummies" series for linux/ubuntu
[01:47] <welinux> basix: there is for Debian
[01:47] <DGM> online there is ubuntuguide.org
[01:48] <basix-> ubuntu = debian correct?
[01:48] <headkase314> basix-, Ubuntu = Based on Debian
[01:48] <DGM> theres also ubuntu-manual.org
[01:48] <c3l> I have a bunch of directories where I want a set of users to be able to read, and another set of users that are able to read and write. so I basically need two groups for one directory, is that possible?
[01:48] <headkase314> basix-, Ubuntu = Based on Debian, or more exactly, Debian Unstable
[01:48] <odiopastebin> ilovefairuz, so what is it ? what can I do ?
[01:48] <gryllida> hey! how do I change user account password and name?
[01:49] <welinux> basix-: Michael Bellomo. Debian GNU/Linux For Dummies. Wiley Publishing, Inc.
[01:49] <basix-> what else is there other than Debian?
[01:49] <c3l> gryllida: easiest would be the user management tool, if running gnome, run users-admin
[01:49] <DGM> basix-: google for linux distributions for that answer
[01:49] <basix-> okay
[01:49] <gryllida> c3l, I'm in cli
[01:49] <tesuji> how do you disable the gnome keyring?
[01:49] <gryllida> I dont have gui
[01:49] <KE1HA> basix-, well Google Ubuntu for Dummies, and there's loads of links, but I'm not gonna advertise the.  Also try, google Ubuntu [subject] wiki, tons of good info that's "free'
[01:49] <DGM> too much to list :)
[01:50] <basix-> thanks much everyone
[01:50] <rallias_> is there a program that I can use to input a web page, download it, and extract all the links for the page, then download those links and start over with them, all within a linux machine?
[01:50] <c3l> gryllida: cli? command line install?
[01:50] <nowb> How to deploy ubuntu in a windows environment?
[01:50] <DGM> but ubuntu is a good distribution, especially if you're new to linux
[01:50] <tesuji> how do you disable the gnome keyring?  i deleted the directory and now it wants a new passowrd.  i want it to go away
[01:50] <DGM> nowb: deploy?
[01:50] <welinux> basix-: Ubuntu Pocket Guide is free and in internet can be easily finded
[01:50] <basix-> i like ubuntu
[01:50] <basix-> it's somewhat friendly for a windows user
[01:51] <prodigaldax>  /server irc.di.fm
[01:51] <gryllida> c3l, ubuntu server I'm ssh'ing to
[01:51] <welinux> basix-: Ubuntu Kung-Fu by the same author
[01:51] <gryllida> c3l, I want to change password, and the username
[01:51] <KE1HA> tesuji, http://www.noob2geek.com/how-to/how-to-disable-gnome-keyring-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[01:51] <welinux> basix-: and of cource Official Ubuntu Book
[01:51] <tesuji> basix-, ubuntu is grand if you have vanilla hardware and you don't want to do anything strange, different, or unusual :)
[01:52] <nowb> Meaning within a mixed environment(Linux and windows)
[01:53] <c3l> gryllida: im actually not sure, user and group management is one of few things I likt to do with a GUI. but look at adduser and passwd, those commands might do what you wan. passwd at least changes password
[01:53] <basix-> hmm also is there a good graphical ftp server client for ubuntu in the software center?
[01:53] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - you still there ?  - I've been experimenting with getting the wpa_sup working / not working and found that if I reboot, but leave the monitor "disconnected" (I use a KVM), while it boots, and then login it results in a low-resolution screen and some differences in the lsmod output, BUT if I then stop NM and such and launch my own wpa_sup that this weird "disconnected" launch is able to properly connect while the other isn
[01:53] <welinux> nautilus-open-terminal - i wanna change the words in right-click-menu in that package
[01:53] <KE1HA> tesuji, I have a complete Home built ustom box, EVGA MB, NV Dual GLX, xFI Sound, Raptors drives, and the install went perfect, install went without a hitch, so it doesn't need to be plain-jane fer sure.
[01:53] <DGM> basix-: fireftp maybe. but there seem to be a couple
[01:54] <MaRk-I> gryllida: changing a passowrd is easy, renaming a user is like deleting it and would have folder permission problems, but you can try:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64021
[01:54] <Maliron> Hey all!
[01:54] <tesuji> KE1HA, and if your hardware isn't properly autodetected you'll spend hours and hours and hours and more hours....  has happened to me 3 times on 3 different installs.
[01:54] <c3l> DGM: fireftp is not a ftp server
[01:54] <basix-> i don't get any search results for fireftp..
[01:55] <zcat[1]> bugger. got to the bottom of the problem, cd drive reads unreliably, so now I have a really badly corrupted 10.04 with lots of missing packages, and even more than can't be configured
[01:55] <c3l> basix-: its a firefox addon, a ftp client in the browser. you where looking for a ftp server or client?
[01:55] <basix-> server*
[01:55] <KE1HA> tesuji, we'll that all depends, but I've got some 15+ box's of different flavors, and none were too bad. WiFI can be tricky, but other than that, I've not hit any roda blocks.
[01:55] <pogothedog> i need help puting teamspeak3 on my computer plz help if u no how ?
[01:56] <KE1HA> .. whops, road blocks.
[01:56] <tesuji> KE1HA, good for you, you're a lucky one
[01:56] <c3l> basix-: gadmin-proftpd
[01:56] <zcat[1]> time to back up home and a few things from /etc/ and do a fresh install I think.. perhaps this time off a usb drive
[01:56] <c3l> basix-: its a graphical frontend to the ftp server proftpd
[01:56] <basix-> thanks c3l
[01:56] <KE1HA> Do the the research "before" buying, saves allot fo trouble.
[01:56] <tesuji> KE1HA, does someone keep a list of supported systems?
[01:57] <petriborg1> KE1HA - what wifi do you use, i could *really* use an easier to use pci-wifi card right now - my current one is completely fucked in 10.04
[01:57] <pogothedog> any one here use teamspeak3 for ubuntu 8.04?
[01:57] <chalcedony> if i wanted someone to be able to help with my computer, is there some program like realvnc for ubuntu?
[01:57] <petriborg1> pogothedog - sorry i haven't used TS in a long time :-/
[01:57] <KE1HA> It's the same for WinDoze, if you buy something that's not WinDoze supported, can't complain abt it not working.
[01:57] <tesuji> KE1HA, haha pretriborg knows whereof i speak
[01:57] <basix-> c3l, i will need to install proftpd as well to work with it?
[01:57] <tesuji> KE1HA, everything is supported in windows :)
[01:58] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: aah you lost me
[01:58] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: thought you were running on bare metal
[01:58] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - running what on bare metal? I am running on baremetal no vm involved here
[01:58] <c3l> basix-: I checked that, proftpd is a dependency for the frontend, so it will get installed automatically,everything needed for it to work will get installed when you install gadmin-proftpd =)
[01:58] <Maliron> I'm a long time linus user, and I've been on Ubuntu for about 2 years now. I'm on 10.04 and I just started an update. It got to a point where it was installing a new kernel, and froze in the middle of it. System was completely unresponsive. I had no choice but to power down. When it booted back up, and I launched the update manager again, it said something about a partial upgrade (this was not a dist-upgrade obviously) and I let it do it's
[01:58] <Maliron>  thing. It eventually finished and said no upgrade was needed. Now when I run the update manager it goes out an checks, but says there are no updates. How can I make sure everything is sane now, what about the rest of the new kernel and other updates? Sorry for the long question.
[01:59] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - i have several boxes  which i use a video-switch on to use a single monitor/mouse w/
[01:59] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: KVM ?
[01:59] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1: aha, THAT kvm
[01:59] <tesuji> KE1HA, i spent 18 hours doing an install on old hardware over the weekend because ubuntu does not autodetect intel video
[01:59] <MarkSS> How do I install iTunesSetup.exe in wine?  It keeps getting the busy thing and not working
[01:59] <DGM> kvm <3
[02:00] <basix-> c3l, ok..but now when i install it if it doesn't show up in my 'Applications' where else would I look for it?
[02:00] <tesuji> KE1HA, and no one here had any idea
[02:00] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - anyway i have *no* idea wtf causes this its scary! :(
[02:01] <c3l> basix-: hm thats strange. can  you run gadmin-proftpd or similar cfrom the terminal?
[02:01] <tesuji> KE1HA, prolly the bulk of that time was spent praying for help here, finally find something with google, then another bunch of hours to make it work on an installed system as the setup is different from livecd
[02:01] <bigdant> join #linuxmint
[02:01] <basix-> i'm sorry
[02:01] <sweetpi> tesuji: try booting with "video=vesa i915.modeset=0". its a kms problem in the latest version
[02:01] <ilovefairuz> petriborg1:  you're using experimental drivers... kind of
[02:01] <chalcedony> is there some program like realvnc for ubuntu?
[02:01] <basix-> c3l, i found it in the menu
[02:01] <basix-> under System Tools
[02:01] <c3l> basix-: good =)
[02:01] <tesuji> sweetpi, i know that now :) :) :) what is "kms"?
[02:01] <basix-> c3l, thank you for your help :)
[02:01] <petriborg1> ilovefairuz - yeah i saw from infomod that ath5k is marked experimental :(
[02:02] <sweetpi> !kms | tesuji
[02:02] <headkase314> tesuji, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[02:02] <tesuji> sweetpi, actually i915.modeset=1 was the fix
[02:02] <DGM> what does that do exactly? force it into some vesa mode?
[02:02] <KE1HA> tesuji, It's like I said, research. Read first, many times, then Install once.
[02:02] <Jordan_U> tesuji: I explained to you in #grub that the problem was not that "ubuntu does not autodetect intel video". Please stop spreading misinformation.
[02:02] <c3l> basix-: im just glad to help, and remember ftp is never safe. if you want to share files securely use sftp (ssh)
[02:03] <odiopastebin> why samba show this smbd start/running, process #number ?
[02:03] <tesuji> Jordan_U, i don
[02:03] <petriborg1> KE1HA - sorry maybe i missed it in the spue of chat, but did you say what wifi card you're using?
[02:03] <sweetpi> tesuji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting anyway gtg
[02:03] <KE1HA> tesuji, ias it the i8xx series chipset?
[02:03] <tesuji> Jordan_U, dunno what it does, i only know what it doesn't
[02:03] <KE1HA> oop is it ,,,
[02:03] <basix-> c3l, ok, it's just to learn how to set up a server on linux i don't plan on doing much sharing just experimenting
[02:04] <tesuji> KE1HA, ancient dell laptop, dunno exactly what it has, all i know is i915.modeset=1 is the fix
[02:04] <Maliron> Any ideas?
[02:05] <KE1HA> tesuji, I use a bucnh of odd-ball wifi's, Linksys, iwp2200, and a few I can't even pronounce :-)
[02:05] <KE1HA> tesuji, yes, I've got an old D400, had the same issue, but what most dont understand, it's acually a kernel issue causeing the whole mess.
[02:05] <ecrane> http://socuteurl.com/bizzypoo
[02:06] <tesuji> KE1HA, i'm just lucky i guess.  another one we never figgered out.  it's a relatively new hp laptop, just crashes randomy with ubuntu, works just fine with windows, finally gave up on it
[02:06] <Simeon_H> anyone else here bought powerdvd linux?
[02:06] <c3l> basix-: ah thats nice, but look in to ssh too, its the standar for connecting to other linux (and unix) machines and also sending files
[02:07] <Jordan_U> tesuji: The problem is *not* that Ubuntu fails to detect intel hardware, your hardware is being detected as intel and is also being detected as being part of a series of chipsets most of which have problems with the intel mode setting drivers (which is what i915.modeset=1 enables).
[02:07] <c3l> basix-: that is, if you already dont know about it, I dont know how new you are =)
[02:07] <KE1HA> tesuji, well, I hate to advocate WinDoze, but if it works better for you, then by all means, please use.
[02:08] <Jordan_U> tezuka0: A full explanation of the problem can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[02:08] <Maliron> Simeon_H, Why use powerdvd, there are so many gpl players out there that are good.
[02:08] <Simeon_H> well I wanted to see if it was any good
[02:08] <Simeon_H> but I purchased it from the canonical store yesterday and still no download link :(
[02:09] <headkase314> Simeon_H, I use VLC for DVDs, you may have to enable the Medibuntu repository and install libdvdcss2
[02:09] <c3l> I have a bunch of directories where I want a set of users to be able to read, and another set of users that are able to read and write. so I basically need two groups for one directory, is that possible?
[02:10] <headkase314> Simeon_H, I think I used VLC anyway - been so long since I watched a real DVD that I don't recall totally! ;)
[02:10] <Simeon_H> well I'm using VLC now
[02:10] <Simeon_H> but I'm kind of cheesed off that I can't download a program I paid like $60 for
[02:11] <Maliron>  I'm on 10.04 and I just started an update. It got to a point where it was installing a new kernel, and froze in the middle of it. System was completely unresponsive. I had no choice but to power down. When it booted back up, and I launched the update manager again, it said something about a partial upgrade. How do I make my checks now and get the rest of the updates?
[02:11] <headkase314> Simeon_H, Medibuntu information and you need libdvdcss2 for encrypted DVDs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[02:11] <basix-> c3l, i know ssh but never heard of sftp ;)
[02:11] <earthling_> How do I put the "show desktop" shortcut icon on the gnome panel?
[02:11] <c3l> basix-: basically the same thing, sftp is ssh file transfer protocol. the cli tool is called scp =)
[02:12] <Simeon_H> dude I can already play encrypted DVD's
[02:12] <Simeon_H> that's not my problem
[02:12] <^peanut^> Simeon_H: have you called the support or billing line?
[02:13] <Simeon_H> I sent an email
[02:13] <^peanut^> Simeon_H: ok, but you didn't call them?
[02:13] <Simeon_H> but I was wondering if anyone else had the same problem
[02:13] <Simeon_H> no, I live in Australia
[02:13] <^peanut^> Simeon_H: oh
[02:13] <whompapotamus> c3l: From what I understand - one group per folder
[02:13] <c3l> whompapotamus: then how would you solve a case similar to mine?
[02:13] <^peanut^> c3l: yea, for permissions you use groups as teams of people but only 1 group can own a directory/file
[02:14] <SimonSayez> Simeon_H, Are you using mplayer to play encrypted DVD's
[02:14] <gryllida> hey
[02:14] <Simeon_H> vlc
[02:14] <gryllida> how do I change account username without adding new account?
[02:15] <gryllida> on the system, user acnt I mean
[02:15] <c3l> ^peanut^: its quite a limitation to not allow configurations to more than one group per file/folder
[02:15] <Simeon_H> and I have libdvdcss installed
[02:15] <Simeon_H> and I can play encrypted DVD's without any problems
[02:15] <^peanut^> c3l: I believe its more of a security issue than anything. where windows doesn't mind, linux does.
[02:15] <SimonSayez> Simeon_H, Can you rip the vob files from the DVD ?
[02:16] <nedflander> jeezoflip - this is not an alternative to windows
[02:16] <Simeon_H> why would I do that?
[02:16] <Simeon_H> I just bought an external DVD player
[02:16] <c3l> ^peanut^: ah I see
[02:16] <Simeon_H> so I wouldn't have to
[02:16] <Simeon_H> and it works fine
[02:16] <whompapotamus> c3l: Thinking it through (on my iPhone right now so I don't have a shell to work with)
[02:16] <SimonSayez> Simeon_H, so you can convert the vob files to flv or mpg so everyone can see them
[02:16] <^peanut^> c3l: along with file permissions there is also the hooks for selinux. you should read up on that, it may do what you are trying to do, but in a much more secure way.
[02:16] <c3l> whompapotamus: youre not jailbroken? =)
[02:17] <nedflander> and god bless mr troup for putting so much effort in
[02:17] <c3l> ^peanut^: thanks for the tip
[02:17] <whompapotamus> Work phone
[02:17] <^peanut^> c3l: np
[02:17] <PeterFA> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to connect to my Sierra 250u CDMA modem. I've search the Internet but found no definitive information. I did find however that there is a sierra module and I loaded it. However, I did not notice any device addition to my list of devices.
[02:18] <PeterFA> How do I get my Sierra 250u CDMA modem to work?
[02:20] <whompapotamus> c3l: Chown ReadWriteGrown FolderName
[02:20] <headkase314> PeterFA, maybe these instructions will help -> http://sierrawireless.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/500/~/can-i-use-my-sierra-wireless-modem-on-a-linux-operating-system-%3F-(-v.1.7.32)
[02:20] <gryllida> hello?
[02:20] <Aemaeth> hello gryllida
[02:20] <devunt> !hi gryllida
[02:21] <^peanut^> gryllida: well, the easiest way is to create a new user, logon with that username and then copy your stuff over from the old account, then remove the old account.
[02:21] <whompapotamus> c3l: Chmod g=rw o=r
[02:21] <gryllida> how do I change user accnt name without adding new user using Terminal?
[02:22] <gryllida> ^peanut^ I asume new user creation needs sudo which I don't have
[02:22] <whompapotamus> c3l: Add all of the read only to the others group
[02:22] <Jinxzs> how to share my files in ubuntu to my windows desktop
[02:22] <rooks> how to update linux server kernel, apt-get update doesnt cut it, since its marked somehow
[02:22] <^peanut^> gryllida: you don't, unless you plan on editing a few files and changing user/group permissions on your home directory.
[02:22] <gryllida> Jinxzs, right click a folder, share
[02:22] <Aemaeth> ^peanut^,  last time i made a new account i had to give the account elevated privilages the first boot, otherwise when i tried to load into it it just had a bunch of errors about how it couldn't make folders
[02:22] <gryllida> !samba | Jinxzs
[02:22] <^peanut^> gryllida: yes, need to use sudo for the adduser command
[02:22] <hiexpo> purewhy no sudo
[02:22] <hiexpo> oops
[02:23] <whompapotamus> c3l: Best I can think of without a computer I front of me
[02:23] <gryllida>  ^peanut^, I need to change my own account name, I don't have sudo access. Not possible?
[02:23] <^peanut^> whompapotamus: your correct. o=r will work
[02:23] <^peanut^> c3l: o = other users...
[02:23] <Aemaeth> why can't you get admin? who holds the pass? charm them or thieve it from them
[02:24] <hiexpo> to change must have root access
[02:24] <Hoober> hey guys i want to apologize. i am sorry. so um.. i will try to use ubuntu to the fullest
[02:24] <gryllida> sure
[02:24] <hiexpo> :P
[02:24] <c3l> whompapotamus: I want other users to be able to do nothing, while one group can rw and another only r =) but thanks anyway
[02:25] <^peanut^> gryllida: hmm ,yea without sudo access or the root password your kinda stuck with the userid you have.
[02:25] <welinux> gryllida: livecd and change your name
[02:25] <^peanut^> welinux: unless it's a work computer... I wouldn't recommend that.
[02:26] <welinux> ^peanut^: i know this You're right
[02:26] <^peanut^> welinux: *it's not I mean =)
[02:27] <c3l> what practical implications does execut permission have, it wont work without read, so what is the practical difference between read and execute. cant you just copy the file, you become owner, and able to execute?
[02:27] <^peanut^> c3l: man chmod
[02:28] <^peanut^> c3l: man chown, chgrp
[02:28] <c3l> ^peanut^: I was hopeing not to :)
[02:28] <subsume> Currently in postfix myhostname = UNKNOWN. Should it be the same as in /etc/hostname ?
[02:28] <PeterFA> headkase314, it's working. I got some dev stuff now.
[02:28] <PeterFA> Thanks
[02:28] <hiexpo> !chmod > c31
[02:28] <^peanut^> c3l: ? why, man pages rock.
[02:28] <^peanut^> ty hiexpo
[02:28] <welinux> c3l: execute can change OThER files
[02:29] <whompapotamus> c3l: This is clever http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/96041-two-groups-permission-one-directory.html
[02:29] <welinux> c3l : Read That Fine manual
[02:29] <c3l> welinux: =) how do you mean change other fiels?
[02:29] <hiexpo> i didn't come up   > failed   lol
[02:30] <hiexpo> ^it
[02:30] <welinux> c3l: Iinstall, make new files, or WRITE INTO other files
[02:30] <^peanut^> hiexpo: oh...hehe
[02:30] <Jordan_U> c3l: You can execute programs that you do not haver permission to read.
[02:31] <hiexpo> let me check ubbotu
[02:31] <slidinghorn> !permissions
[02:31] <hiexpo> ubottu
[02:31] <Jordan_U> c3l: cp /bin/echo /tmp/echo; chmod 111 /tmp/echo; /tmp/echo hello, world
[02:31] <welinux> !ubottu
[02:31] <CodeWar> cant seem to get my window to span both monitors in twin view .. this is ubuntu 10.04
[02:32] <c3l> welinux:  write into other files with only execute permission? ;e
[02:32] <c3l> whompapotamus: awesom, thanks
[02:32] <hiexpo> !chmod | hiexpo
[02:32] <welinux> c3l: i think so
[02:32] <realubot> ikepanhc: Well, I think the audio worked after the installation, but I'm not really sure. I have to look into this problem some more time before trying to get help.
[02:32] <laura>  i'm trying to install gnome-games-2.30.2. i'm new to linux and feeling pretty stupid still. it says i need gtk+2, so i tried to install that and it says i need atk but i looked in the ubuntu software center and it says i already have it. i'm so confused. plz help?
[02:33] <realubot> ikepanhc: Sorry, wrong person.
[02:33] <realubot> ilovefairuz: Well, I think the audio worked after the installation, but I'm not really sure. I have to look  into this problem some more time before trying to get help.
[02:33] <hiexpo> !chmod
[02:33] <c3l> Jordan_U: ah nice
[02:34] <c3l> Jordan_U: but I was mostly thinking about rx vs r. whats the difference there?
[02:35] <PeterFA> There.
[02:35] <PeterFA> Fixed it.
[02:35] <PeterFA> My modem works!
[02:35] <edbian> c3l, rx = read and execute, r = read only.
[02:35] <edbian> PeterFA, Congradulations! :)
[02:35] <hiexpo> PeterFA,  kool
[02:35] <welinux> c3l: when the program is executed it could write into logfiles which it created on its own Doesn't it?
[02:35] <PeterFA> Too bad it'll only do 3G and not 4G.
[02:36] <PeterFA> Oh well.
[02:36] <PeterFA> Nice to know I got Internet when I need it, wherever I am.
[02:36] <hiexpo> PeterFA,  what 3g network?
[02:36] <c3l> welinux: ah, im starting to get it
[02:36] <welinux> congratulations > PeterFA
[02:36] <sky7> hello, I was hoping someone could help me out. I'm trying to get my grub2 config working properly. I have a triple boot with ubuntu/7/osx on a pc. OSX is on its own drive and boots when it is the only HDD pluged in, but I can't get it to boot from grub.
[02:36] <PeterFA> hiexpo: Sprint 3G.
[02:36] <PeterFA> hiexpo: CDMA wireless modem.
[02:37] <welinux> c3l: that's why with strict permissions you are safe in Linux
[02:37] <hiexpo> did u use flipflop sh ?
[02:37] <welinux> PeterFA: what's the speed?
[02:38] <PeterFA> welinux: 3G is 500 kbps but 4G is 5 or 6Mbps.
[02:38] <welinux> PeterFA: i understand you Hope I'll get 4g
[02:39] <welinux> PeterFA: hope you'll get 4G :)
[02:39] <PeterFA> welinux: check your area. It's also $60 a month but you have to get locked in.
[02:39] <hiexpo> PeterFA,  PeterFA  did you use fliphlop.sh?
[02:39] <welinux> PeterFA: another country Thanx anyway :)
[02:40] <PeterFA> hiexpo: no.
[02:40] <hiexpo> PeterFA,  what app?
[02:40] <PeterFA> hiexpo: once I got the module installed, the devices appeared and I used the Ubuntu wifi manager to connect.
[02:40] <PeterFA> Network Manager Applet. .8
[02:40] <hiexpo> PeterFA,  kool on ppp0
[02:41] <PeterFA> Well, ttyUSB0
[02:41] <hiexpo> ok
[02:42] <makson> thanks guys
[02:45] <marky707> hello
[02:46] <edbian> marky707, Hi
[02:46] <marky707> i am new to ubuntu and would like to know more about it
[02:46] <marky707> considering putting it on my laptop
[02:46] <marky707> an older model
[02:46] <marky707> but don't know if i should use the netbook version or desktop version
[02:46] <marky707> any suggestions
[02:47] <zkriesse> MaRk-I: laptop specs
[02:47] <c3l> marky707: try the netbook version, either you like it or hate it
[02:47] <c3l> marky707: I suggest the desktop verison as it gives you a normal interface
[02:47] <marky707> it has 512megs of ram
[02:48] <marky707> 50 gig hard drive
[02:48] <c3l> marky707: run a ubuntu minimal or whats it called
[02:48] <welinux> marky707: it's normal
[02:48] <c3l> !mini | marky707
[02:48] <rkvirani> Hi All, how do I make a persistant ubuntu USB key?
[02:48] <c3l> !install | rkvirani
[02:48] <zkriesse> marky707: I'd recommend Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[02:48] <hiexpo> !persitant
[02:49] <welinux> marky707: Ubuntu Desktop is suit for your laptop
[02:49] <hiexpo> persistant
[02:49] <c3l> !persistant
[02:49] <marky707> thank you... i will try the minimal cd
[02:49] <zkriesse> welinux: not for the RAM he has it's not
[02:49] <hiexpo> !persistent
[02:49] <zkriesse> marky707: I'd recommend Lubuntu as it's EXTREMELY light
[02:50] <zkriesse> marky707: for more info /join #lubuntu
[02:50] <welinux> zkriesse: believe me
[02:50] <marky707> lubuntu... i didn't see that on the ubuntu site
[02:50] <whompapotamus> marky707: Use XFCE instead of Gnome (lighter on resources)
[02:50] <crucialhoax> I have an acer 532h netbook and every now and then it says my battery is crucially low when its full?
[02:50] <marky707> i'll check that out now
[02:51] <marky707> xfce... is that an option in the installation
[02:51] <ilovefairuz> marky707: xubuntu
[02:52] <rkvirani> perhaps I will just install in VB
[02:52] <rkvirani> VMW was conflicting with Powershell remoting :P
[02:52] <welinux> marky707: 512 MB?
[02:52] <marky707> yes... its an old sony veo i have
[02:53] <welinux> marky707: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473803/ Ubuntu work ok
[02:53] <Ddorda> hwy, how do i check total length of many vids?
[02:54] <rkvirani> c31 alright smartypants the documentation nly covers until 8.10
[02:54] <rkvirani> what do I do for 10.04
[02:54] <welinux> marky707: http://lubuntu.net/ is nice choice anyway
[02:55] <devunt> lubuntu?
[02:55] <c3l> rkvirani: I ugess there is not much new to document for 10.04 but the mini 10.04 exists right?
[02:55] <marky707> i am looking at the site now lubuntu.net
[02:55] <whompapotamus> marky707: Seems a bit low for good X performance - hate to say it in the ubuntu channel - but you may want to "build from ground up" using arch and selecting a lighter window manager and run fluxbox or something to that effect
[02:56] <arun__> My colge has hosted a site called http://foobar.colgname which is only accessible from our colge lan network. Is there anyway I can access it from my home? like using any proxies or ??
[02:56] <Hoober> Which IDE should i get from Ubuntu Software Center if i plan to develop a Game for Ubuntu? game engine i guess
[02:56] <rkvirani> c31 mini 10.04?
[02:57] <rkvirani> what is that?
[02:57] <marky707> i would love to be able to do that... but i don't know how to build from the ground up... i am trying to migrate into ubuntu coming from being a windows user
[02:57] <wx9j> how can I copy a video off the web ? the spike site does not put a flash file in the /temp dir but does store several .xml files
[02:57] <rkvirani> I think the liveusb-creator will do the trick
[02:57] <rkvirani> we shall see.
[02:57] <c3l> !minimal | rkvirani
[02:57] <dodecanesand> hello
[02:57] <dodecanesand> i god a questiohm
[02:58] <c3l> rkvirani: oh, I got you mixed up with someone else I think
[02:58] <dodecanesand> does vlc use mpeg4 compression on linuggs?
[02:58] <ilovefairuz> Ddorda: ffmpeg -i file.avi -metadata | grep Duration
[02:58] <rkvirani> c31 perhaps...
[02:58] <c3l> sorry
[02:58] <Ddorda> ilovefairuz: of many files
[02:58] <rkvirani> c31 no problems :D
[02:58] <edbian> marky707, What kind of specs are you running Ubuntu on?  I suggest you try regular Ubuntu first, on a live CD.  For no other reason than that your new to linux.
[02:59] <c3l> wx9j: look at the various firefox addons out ther, that allow you to save flash movies
[02:59]  * rkvirani was very happy to be able to re-purpose his dads old laptop that had a bad gfx card
[02:59] <rkvirani> just put ubuntu on the drive and fired it in and up it went!!
[02:59] <welinux> dodecanesand: vlc plays practically any media file
[03:00] <dodecanesand> welinux: yes, but does it encode to h264?
[03:00] <wx9j> c31 Normally I can just copy the tmp file before the video finishes but the spike site uses xml sheets .
[03:00] <crucialhoax> I have an acer 532h netbook and every now and then it says my battery is crucially low when its full?
[03:00] <welinux> dodecanesand: u need encoder?
[03:00] <dodecanesand> nah streaming
[03:00] <dodecanesand> from mpeg4 to mpeg4
[03:01] <c3l> rkvirani: aaah, I think unetbootin has the option to configure this when putting ubuntu on the usb. allowing 'livecd' on the usb to store files. as youre doing it will erase the files after reboot, or when unplugging the usb
[03:01] <welinux> !ping
[03:01] <ilovefairuz> Ddorda: loop in a shell script?
[03:01] <dodecanesand> a tv stream 12mbit from HD to SD 720p 1100kb/s x264
[03:01] <c3l> wx9j: to simplyfy the task I guess some of these addons will fix it for you
[03:05] <Livin4Jesus> Hello?
[03:06] <crucialhoax> I have an acer 532h netbook and every now and then it says my battery is crucially low when its full?
[03:06] <welinux> !hi | Livin4Jesus
[03:06] <wx9j> c31 thanks, I am doing that now.
[03:06] <Livin4Jesus> My Ubuntu won't start. It just shows the "Try (0, 0)" sign. Then I have to restart my computer. I installed it using Wubi. Can someone help me?
[03:07] <Livin4Jesus> ubottu: Help?
[03:07] <mikeplus64> Livin4Jesus: I don't know what the problem is, but you're probably better off talking to the Wubi people. ( or trying an 'official' livecd installation )
[03:08] <Livin4Jesus> Where can I find them?
[03:08] <welinux> Livin4Jesus: can you see Grub on your monitor?
[03:08] <Livin4Jesus> Nope.
[03:08] <ilovefairuz> crucialhoax: does it actually last after these warnings?
[03:08] <hiexpo> !help
[03:09] <c3l> !install | Livin4Jesus
[03:09] <crucialhoax> ilovefairuz: Yes it does, about 5 seconds after the warning the battery applet shows the correct status
[03:09] <crucialhoax> ilovefairuz,  I also added a cronjob into the hourly folder to check the status and that didnt work either :?
[03:10] <ilovefairuz> crucialhoax:  cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
[03:11] <crucialhoax> ilovefairuz, I added that as a start up program and as a cron job and it didnt work :(
[03:11] <Castbound> hello guys, how can I manually mount usb device which won't automount for some reason?
[03:12] <hiexpo> !help
[03:12] <ilovefairuz> crucialhoax: what didn't work?
[03:12] <hiexpo> oops
[03:12] <Livin4Jesus> Castbound: What OS are you using?
[03:12] <hiexpo> lsusb seeif it's there
[03:12] <Castbound> ubuntu 10 4
[03:12] <welinux> !automate
[03:12] <crucialhoax> ilovefairuz, The script didnt stop th fake warnings.
[03:12] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: insert it and sudo fdisk -l
[03:12] <Castbound> it's not lisxted here
[03:12] <Castbound> there*
[03:12] <Livin4Jesus> Castbound: Is it the only OS on your system?
[03:13] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: pastebin sudo tail /var/log/messages
[03:13] <Castbound> nope, usb works, pendrive works
[03:13] <ilovefairuz> (as you plug it in and out)
[03:13] <ilovefairuz> crucialhoax: does this command show the correct battery level?
[03:14] <Livin4Jesus> OK, about a few seconds after your computer starts up, it should show the computer brand's logo. Try pressing F10 at that screen.
[03:14] <crucialhoax> ilovefairuz, It shows mAh information, Idk how to interpret that lol
[03:14] <Livin4Jesus> I have Windows XP installed on my system (Along side Ubuntu) and it works for me.
[03:14] <Castbound> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/zExQwYsL
[03:15] <Castbound> ilovefairuz ^^
[03:15] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: that's all revelant messages? pastebin lsusb
[03:15] <Castbound> want more?
[03:15] <ilovefairuz> /s/revelant/relevant
[03:16] <hiexpo> no just blood
[03:16] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: yes, pastebin all the file
[03:16] <dodecanesand> so vlc is able to create h264 streams?
[03:16] <Castbound>  lol, yes that's the only relevant
[03:16] <Livin4Jesus> Is there a way I can boot (Not install) Ubuntu from a USB?
[03:16] <ilovefairuz> !unetbootin | Livin4Jesus
[03:17] <hiexpo> Livin4Jesus,  yes ubuntu bots live usb
[03:17] <Castbound> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Ehc90x0J
[03:17] <Livin4Jesus> ?
[03:17] <hiexpo> ^boots
[03:17] <Castbound> ilovefairuz ^
[03:17] <Livin4Jesus> Ah.
[03:17] <ilovefairuz> Castbound:  pastebin lsusb
[03:18] <Castbound> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tFdWKnn2
[03:19] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: do you have any other USB devices attached?
[03:19] <scribe> I'm having a very odd problem with setcap and core dumps.  It seems any file I set any capabilities to will no longer dump core.  Does this ring a bell for anyone?
[03:19] <hiexpo> it is to hard to type lsusb like strangling  a duck      ^ :P
[03:19] <Castbound> sec
[03:20] <Castbound> ilovefairuz just the digital piano, and it's off at the moment
[03:20] <Castbound> should I disconnect it?
[03:20] <hiexpo> hmmm
[03:20] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: yes and check lsusb to see if it's any different
[03:20] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: is the non-working device an MP3 player?
[03:21] <Castbound> yes,
[03:21] <Castbound> lsusb didn't change at all ilovefairuz
[03:21] <crucialhoax> ilovefairuz, Any other ideas? it didnt do this when it ran 9.10
[03:21] <c3l> is there any lightweight user & group manager that doesent depend the entire gnome or kde package?
[03:22] <ilovefairuz> crucialhoax: you should file a bug, check #ubuntu-bugs
[03:22] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: is it a music player?
[03:22] <crucialhoax> thanks :)
[03:22] <Castbound> ilovefairuz yes, it is
[03:22] <hiexpo> !bug
[03:24] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: http://dbaspot.com/forums/linux-misc/155018-fdisk-l-doesnt-detect-mp3-player.html#post709255
[03:24] <Castbound> ilovefairuz, checking
[03:24] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: ls /dev/sd* (after you modprobe)
[03:26] <sidney> I removed win 7 to install Debian. Will Debian usually see the other which is Ubuntu and add it to grub?
[03:27] <ilovefairuz> sidney: most likely, yes
[03:27] <hiexpo> !debian
[03:27] <sidney> ilovefairuz: ok thanks
[03:27] <Castbound> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Letx5c02 ilovefairuz
[03:27] <psycho789> when I try to activate the ATI driver I get "SystemError: installArchives() failed"
[03:27] <jastiv>  Remember, Why, what happens if I use the wrong repositories? !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[03:28] <nedflander> hey how about making youtube work as a priority
[03:28] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: did you modprobe all ? plug it out and in
[03:28] <hiexpo> ati what ?
[03:28] <xangua> nedflander: flash sucks in linux
[03:28] <Castbound> ilovefairuz plug it out and in -- no trying
[03:28] <c3l> is there any lightweight user & group manager that doesent depend the entire gnome or kde package?
[03:28] <nedflander> yeah kick me, i like it, i have proxies coming out of my ears
[03:28] <hiexpo> oops  i mean youtube what
[03:28] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: "no trying" ?
[03:29] <Castbound> ilovefairuz just tried, still didn't work
[03:29] <psycho789> when I try to activate the ATI graphics driver I get "SystemError: installArchives() failed" anyone know whats wrong
 Castbound: "no trying" ?-- I meant "no, trying now"
[03:29] <epinky> c3l: /etc/passwd /etc/group ?
[03:30] <nedflander> i know i can't get rid of it coz i'm a blackhat hacker
[03:30] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: dmesg | tail (while you plug out and in)
[03:30] <nedflander> bummerz
[03:30] <ilovefairuz> !ot | nedflander
[03:30] <c3l> epinky: sorry, I forgot to say with graphical interface :) but maybe I should just get comfortable with the cli tools
[03:31] <Castbound> usb 2-5: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 11 ilovefairuz that's new
[03:31] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: pastebin all, please?
[03:31] <hiexpo> nedflander,  why would you saysomething lie that    >  i know i can't get rid of it coz i'm a blackhat hacker
[03:32] <hiexpo> ^ say something like that
[03:32] <Castbound> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/uXkNkQ9Q ilovefairuz
[03:33] <whompapotamus> c3l:  cli is the way to go for user management (worth the extra study)
[03:34] <c3l> whompapotamus: hm yea, will do =)
[03:34] <c3l> epinky: whompapotamus: on a related topic, do you know where I can see what permissions a group gives, for example what adding a user to admin does?
[03:34] <Castbound> ilovefairuz actually no, it's nothing new, sorry
[03:34] <hiexpo> nedflander,  are u an idiot or it just comes natural that way ?
[03:36] <whompapotamus> c3l:  users are assigned to groups, groups are given their id - there is no special meaning to "groups" - except for root (0)
[03:36] <Guest33166> newb here. trying to use a motorola tundra as as dialup modem.  can anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:36] <whompapotamus> c3l:  if that makes any sense
[03:36] <lubuser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/614180
[03:36] <Alazare> Looking for anyone who has MLDONKEY installed and working need some help please
[03:37] <whompapotamus> c3l:  go to a command prompt and type: id
[03:37] <hiexpo> command prompt
[03:37] <c3l> whompapotamus: ah yeah, it does =) but some tools give users who are members of certaing groups special properties, such as being a member of the admin, right? but ther is probably no way to centrally see what tools use what groups?
[03:38] <lubuser> anyone know of this bug?  or any bugs effecting ehci?
[03:38] <epinky> c3l: ls -l , getfacl ,there are not such a global privileges, maybe in RBAC but I doubt you meant that? every object(regular file, directory, link, device,etc) has specific permissions for user, group and all the others.
[03:38] <FFForever> How can I rename my usb drive?
[03:38] <lubuser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/614180
[03:39] <c3l> epinky: I mean, how do I see what it involves being a member of gropu foo. the admin group is a good example
[03:39] <whompapotamus> for instance - does /bin/bash care if you are in the "wheel" group...? what is the "wheel" group anyway - who uses it?
[03:39] <Castbound> ilovefairuz any further ideas?
[03:39] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: looking into some docs
[03:40] <whompapotamus> c3l:  there are certain groups with special meaning specific to the distro that you are using... like root
[03:40] <whompapotamus> c3l:  or "users"
[03:40] <c3l> whompapotamus: yeah, so how do I find out more about those groups?
[03:41] <lubuser> ubuntu devs don't look at bugs much, do they?
[03:41] <c3l> what does it mean, being a member of users, or admin?
[03:41] <whompapotamus> c3l:  applications will usually give notes as to what groups are relevant to them (the os documentation will as well)
[03:41] <lubuser> ubuntu has a rep for ignoring bugs
[03:42] <scribe> I'm having a very odd problem with setcap and core dumps.  It seems any file I set any capabilities to will no longer dump core.  Does this ring a bell for anyone?
[03:42] <scribe> you can easily experiment with this: ulimit -c unlimited; /bin/sleep 2000&; pkill -11 sleep  (should dump core)
[03:42] <maco> lubuser: there are many thousand times more bugs than devs
[03:42] <maco> lubuser: fewer than 200 developers
[03:42] <scribe> sudo setcap "-CAP_SYS_NICE+ep" /bin/sleep (then try the above again and no core is dumped)
[03:42] <lubuser> maco:  well, some don't look too complicated but they're still there
[03:42] <scribe> It's baffling.  Been googling all afternoon and nothing.
[03:42] <craigbass1976> I don't want IE running, but the grand State of Maine has created a web portal that only seems to work in IE.  Anyone know which browser might open this thing?  FF, Chrome, and Epiphany have not worked.  The problem seems to be at a java onclick button
[03:43] <alsem> Hello all!  are there any Samba folks out there??  Any one willing to help a newbie?
[03:43] <craigbass1976> alsem, I can set you up a wide open server, but that's about it
[03:43] <c3l> whompapotamus: lets take users as a specific example, where do I find out what this groups properties are?
[03:44] <rossasbill> whas up
[03:44] <maco> lubuser: #ubuntu-bugs is the place to go if you want to discuss triaging/fixing bugs.  particularly if you've found trivial ones, its great to tag them bitesize or if there's a patch attached its in a good position to be fixed relatively quickly
[03:44] <lubuser> maco: oh, ok, thanks
[03:44] <th0r> c3l: it doesn't quite work like that. If you write a script and give it permissions 750, then only the user and group of that script can execute it.
[03:44] <whompapotamus> c3l:  the users group (if your using ubuntu) is recognized as a non-admin group
[03:45] <emma> did they replace the ubuntu-restricted-extras package with something?
[03:45] <c3l> th0r: yeah, but there are certain groups that involve more than that. for example admin
[03:45] <xangua> craigbass1976: hava onclick button¿¿ then install the java plugin for the browser
[03:45] <c3l> whompapotamus: okay, what about the admin group
[03:45] <maco> lubuser: there is a very large backlog of patches on launchpad, but Operation Cleansweep and the patch review team in #ubuntu-reviews are working their way through them.  a few hundred have been reviewed and forwarded to appropriate upstreams so far
[03:46] <xangua> emma: they who¿¿ replace with what¿¿
[03:46] <alsem> Craigbass1976:  Since it is my home I have no need to protect it.  Here is the problem.  When I go to Network I get the file browser screen with Windows Network icon.  Double click it and I get an error message that says  Unable to mount location  Failed to retrieve share list from server.  I have no idea what this means.
[03:46] <emma> i don't see the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[03:46] <th0r> c3l: and if you look through the executables in the system, you will find some that belong to the group admin, and only members of that group can get to those functions
[03:46] <CallaLilyful|unb> server -m irc.neowin.net 6667 james317
[03:47] <CallaLilyful|unb> crap
[03:47] <maco> emma: is the restricted repository enabled on your system?
[03:47] <Alazare> Looking for anyone who has MLDONKEY installed and working need some help please
[03:47] <whompapotamus> c3l:  the admins group (on ubuntu) acts like a root group
[03:47] <lubuser> maco:  that's good
[03:47] <ilovefairuz> Castbound: pastebin /proc/bus/usb/devices
[03:47] <craigbass1976> alsem, which computer are you on when you get this message?
[03:47] <lubuser> I read of a lot of usb bugs... ehci so I thought it may be a priority
[03:48] <c3l> whompapotamus: okay its quite simple them, and that is sudo access I guess. one last question and then Im all happy, whats the adm group?
[03:48] <alsem> Craigbass1976:  I am on the U10.04 Machine.  Name  al-toshiba.  Running Ubuntu 10.04
[03:49] <craigbass1976> xangua, if I've already got java installed, how do I make ff use it?  JRE is installed in /usr/java
[03:49] <xangua> craigbass1976: did you install the java PLUGIN¿¿
[03:49] <craigbass1976> alsem, ok.  I just wasn't sure if it was the windows box yelling about the linux box not serving out files.
[03:49] <whompapotamus> c3l:  again, i can chown any folder, file or application to be in any group i want - if i am a member of that group i inherit those rights
[03:50] <xangua> craigbass1976: sun-java6-plugin
[03:50] <whompapotamus> c3l:  sudo = act like an admin
[03:50] <craigbass1976> xangua, is that an apt-get install ?
[03:50] <lubuser> I can't use my usb 2.0 drives in ubuntu because of the bug!
[03:50] <emma> maco - main restricted is in the sources.list
[03:51] <maco> emma: mmmm.... multiverse too?
[03:51] <lubuser> anyway, if no one wants to fix it, I'm going back to Debian Sqeeze where they at least dealt with the bug to some extent... my usb drives drop to 1.1 speed but at least I can use them
[03:51] <xangua> craigbass1976: indeed
[03:51] <c3l> whompapotamus: hm, so being a member of admin is not to have sudo access?
[03:51] <whompapotamus> c3l:  again, its what adm means to the distro - nothing more
[03:51] <craigbass1976> alsem, are you sharing out from the windows box correctly?
[03:51] <craigbass1976> xangua, thanks, in process
[03:51] <whompapotamus> c3l:  sudo is an application
[03:51] <maco> lubuser: what bug number in launchpad do you know?
[03:51] <craigbass1976> xangua, this will make my wife very happy if it works
[03:51] <c3l> now how do I see what groups is members of a group?
[03:52] <maco> lubuser: and whats the fix in debian?
[03:52] <emma> maco multiverse is in there
[03:52] <maco> lubuser: if you can point me to an ubuntu bug and matching fix in debian, i can make sure the people who need to see it do so
[03:52] <whompapotamus> c3l:  which can keep track of admin commands, limit commands, and the like
[03:52] <craigbass1976> alsem, do you have more than one windows box on the network?
[03:52] <mrstiggy> Hello, I have googled this, but not come up with much.  How can I disable DHCP on interfaces?  More specifically, I am using VMware, and do not want ubuntu to assign any IPs to eth1 and eth2
[03:52] <BeeBuu> hello,all. is there a chat log of this?
[03:52] <nopz>  Need help getting graphics working in Ubuntu with Nvidia AND Intel graphics card(Laptop with dual graphics for both high performance and low power use).
[03:52] <whompapotamus> c3l:  its a way to assign strict admin rights to users
[03:53] <whompapotamus> c3l:  without adding them to an admin group
[03:53] <alsem> Craigbass1976:  What does that mean????  I selected a file on the windows machine and set it up for sharing.  The file is Roswell UFO.  I have only one windows.  I also have another Linux machine -- al-gateway.
[03:53] <lubuser> maco: the bug I reported?
[03:53] <whompapotamus> c3l:  admins are above sudo so to speak
[03:53] <BeeBuu> what's the log URL of this channel?
[03:54] <epinky> c3l: rights are granted to users and groups on inodes
[03:54] <nopz> Every time I enable Nvidia graphics driver and reboot It won't start X. When i boot into recovery and try startx I get Cannot activate Nvidia device. Screens found but no usable configuration blah blah blah.
[03:54] <lubuser> maco:  I don't know if debian has a bug report on it... I tried a sequence of commands in CLI and it allowed me to connect at 1.1 speeds...so ohci is working?
[03:54] <maco> lubuser: yes, point me to the bug you're talking about
[03:54] <lubuser> ehci doesn't drop to ohci in ubuntu ...just debian
[03:54] <whompapotamus> c3l:  cat /etc/group
[03:54] <craigbass1976> alsem, go to My Computer.  There should be a folder called Shared Documents.  right click on it, and share it out.  Allow others to change files, etc, etc
[03:54] <c3l> whompapotamus: but I cant see admin being a groupowner for any file or directory.. what practical implications does the group have?
[03:54] <maco> lubuser: are they using the same kernel versions?
[03:54] <mrstiggy> does anyone know how to disable DHCP on eth1 and eth2?
[03:54] <hermanlf> After reinstalling ubuntu 10.04 my movie playback is choppy.  What could the problem be?  I have the latest kernel and latest nvidia drivers installed.  I didn't have this problem before.  The movies are choppy only during intense action scenes.
[03:54] <lubuser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/614180
[03:54] <craigbass1976> alsem, and is there a firewall on the windows box?
[03:54] <nopz> Any help much appreciated. =)
[03:55] <lubuser> some variance of the kernel ver., I think..?
[03:55] <whompapotamus> c3l:  make a folder in your home directory: mkdir Test
[03:55] <craigbass1976> alsem, you might want to stop in to #windows and ask how to set up a share.  I'm used to XP; if you're on Vista or 7, I've no clue.
[03:55] <lubuser> ubuntu is 2.6.32-21-generic
[03:55] <lubuser> debian squeeze is 2.6.32-5 or ?
[03:55] <rsyring> We are looking at installing more ubuntu servers.  What should I use to manage user accounts accross multiple servers?
[03:55] <craigbass1976> alsem, and I'm not really used to xp...  3.1 was the last one I was real familiar with
[03:55] <whompapotamus> c3l:  now assign that folder to a group: chown admin Test
[03:56]  * BeeBuu get the URL
[03:56] <whompapotamus> c3l:  then type: ls -al
[03:56] <maco> lubuser: ah... bug report without a package listed. those get a lot less attention... i set it to the linux kernel now
[03:56] <lubuser> maco:  oh, what package do I list?
[03:57] <whompapotamus> c3l:  you can see that the group admin owns the folder
[03:57] <nopz> If anyone can help, I have a problem where X won't start after enabling Nvidia drivers. Failed to initiate device error when using startx in recovery.
[03:57] <maco> lubuser: dont worry about it, i already did it :)
[03:57] <lubuser> maco:  ok, thanks... I'll read about that part next time I file ;)
[03:57] <Castbound> ilovefairuz can't stay any longer, have to go to bed or I won't be able to wake up tomorrow
[03:57] <whompapotamus> c3l:  there is absolutely nothing more to groups than that
[03:57] <c3l> whompapotamus: thats it basically? being a member of admin isnt that fancy if its not used on any folders or files?
[03:57] <whompapotamus> c3l:  correct
[03:57] <maco> rsyring: ever used ldap?
[03:58] <epinky> !permissions | c3l
[03:58] <rsyring> maco: not extensively, but I am familiar with the concept
[03:58] <c3l> whompapotamus: I see, thanks alot :)
[03:58] <maco> rsyring: thatd probably be what you want
[03:58] <whompapotamus> c3l:  anytime
[03:58] <c3l> epinky: and thanks for that
[03:58] <lubuser> maco:?
[03:58] <rsyring> maco: so a server's auth mechanism can be based on ldap instead of the local accounts?
[03:59] <maco> rsyring: i believe so
[03:59] <lubuser> maco: well, bug might be in Squeeze but I have to mount manually
[03:59] <rsyring> maco: k, I will check that out...thanks
[03:59] <lubuser> maco:  sorry, if I said things incorrectly... do you understand?
[03:59] <maco> lubuser: have to mount manually?  put a comment on the bug report telling exactly how the behaviour varies between ubuntu and squeeze
[03:59] <lubuser> maco:  not sure if the drives should mount automatically but they don't
[03:59] <lubuser> maco:  okay
[04:00] <whompapotamus> nopz:  press alt+f1 and drop to a command prompt
[04:00] <maco> lubuser: also, "apport-collect 614180" can automatically add lots of useful info to the bug report
[04:00] <nopz> whompapotamus, okay then what?
[04:01] <whompapotamus> nopz: type sudo Xorg -configure
[04:01] <nopz> whompapotamus, I already did that to create a new config file. So i'm back to original config.
[04:02] <whompapotamus> nopz: do you know what version of X you are using
[04:02] <nopz> But the nvidia driver isn't activated then.
[04:02] <craigbass1976> xangua, how do I know ff is running right with the java plugin?  I restarted it, but was there something else I had to do?
[04:02] <nopz> whompapotamus, not exactly, know a way i can check?
[04:03] <whompapotamus> nopz: see if this directory exists: cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[04:03] <xangua> craigbass1976: just restart your browser, still doesn't work¿
[04:04] <alsem> craigbass1976:  Thanks.  I was on the windows machine and couldn't locate any thing like that.  But the Roswell UFO folder I did set up to be shared.  What this unable to mount location means I'm not sure.  Do I need to have something in media for it to attach to?
[04:04] <craigbass1976> xangua, no
[04:04] <nopz> whompapotamus, No etc/X11 does,lol just not xorg.conf.d
[04:04] <whompapotamus> nopz:  ok then
[04:04] <hermanlf> fixed my laggy movie playback issue.  Had to enable sync to v-blank in compiz general settings
[04:05] <whompapotamus> nopz:  sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[04:05] <whompapotamus> nopz:  sudo rm xorg.conf
[04:05] <nopz> whompapotamus, any idea's of how I can enable my Nvidia driver? Actually now when I go to hardware drivers it says an alternative version of this driver is in use.
[04:05] <soreau> I installed ubuntu for a friend, now they're saying that when they click on nm-applet, it's saying network is down and shows no networks. I tried to figure out how they managed to break it by trying to reproduce it here but I can't figure out what they did. It was working fine when I let them loose on it a couple days ago. Any ideas?
[04:05] <nopz> whompapotamus, Okay will do.
[04:06] <craigbass1976> alsem, right click on the roswell folder and do properties.  Fins out what the share name is.  Find otu what the ip address of the windows box is.  then try (in a terminal on the linux box) sudo mount -t smbfs //192.blahbalh/sharename /mnt    But wait, smbfs might not be the protocol anymore, I think it changed.  Anyone?
[04:06] <russ> is there an apt command to list all the installed packages?
[04:06] <nopz> whompapotamus, done.
[04:06] <whompapotamus> nopz: sudo nvidia-x  (you will need to press tab here - forgot the is its nvidia-xconfig)
[04:07] <epinky> craigbass1976: cifs ?
[04:07] <craigbass1976> xangua, no, not working
[04:07] <nopz> Yeah it is. I've tried that. When i restart I get the same thing. Where X fails to start.
[04:07] <craigbass1976> epinky, right; couldn't remember.  alsem, cifs, not smbfs
[04:07] <whompapotamus> nopz:  that will create a new xorg.conf with just nvidia settings
[04:07] <nopz> Give's me fails to intitiate Nvidia device. Screens found but no usable configuration.
[04:07] <lubuser> maco: okay, I updated info... I hope it's sufficient
[04:08] <lubuser> hard to show unless I include very long output from console...
[04:08] <scribe> In case anyone cares, this will enable your cap apps to dump core, but is dangerous: echo 1 > /proc/sys/fs/suid_dumpable
[04:08] <maco> lubuser: knowing how the kernel triager works, id expect an info request friday or monday
[04:08] <lubuser> maco:  kernel triager?
[04:08] <whompapotamus> nopz: are you running the nevou open source driver for linux
[04:08] <nopz> whompapotamus, I'll give it another shot though and report back, i've never completely rmed xorg.conf b4 nvidia-xconfig so will give it a go. Lol. Thanks.
[04:08] <sheepdog> can anyone else currently access the Ubuntu One music store under Lucid?
[04:08] <lubuser> maco:  maybe a chance in the kernel caused discrepancy?
[04:08] <whompapotamus> nopz: that should work
[04:08] <maco> lubuser: the person on the kernel team who automatically gets emails about all bugs marked for the kernel
[04:09] <sacarlson> russ: apt-cache pkgnames
[04:09] <nopz> whompapotamus, Not that i know, again, a way to check?
[04:09] <lubuser> maco:  i see..
[04:09] <whompapotamus> nopz: after nvidia-xconfig creates the new file - reboot - x should load
[04:09] <lubuser> maco:  probably minor issue because my hardware is causing problem but still, the point is ...ehci fails but doesn't drop down to ohci
[04:10] <whompapotamus> nopz: if not, then download the binary and run the installer at the shell prompt
[04:10] <lubuser> maco:  that's what I figure... dunno if that's an accurate explanation :)
[04:10] <nopz> whompapotamus, Okay will try. I was having problems b4 this with x not starting and giving me a blinking screen, after fresh install and update now I don't get blinking screen just this.
[04:10] <laughter> what 's wrong with my top panel? there are white lines and dots. any help is appreciated? http://imgur.com/9qD0u
[04:10] <nopz> whompapotamus, Okay. I'll let you know how it goes.
[04:11] <whompapotamus> nopz: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:11] <whompapotamus> nopz: this will tell you why X is crashing
[04:11] <sheepdog> laughter: can you move the lines and dots?
[04:12] <sheepdog> what happens when you click on them?
[04:12] <laughter> sheepdog, i cannot
[04:12] <laughter> nothing
[04:12] <lubuser> maco:  if the usb 2.0 port is working, there'd be no problem... I think the issue is when usb 2.0 port doesn't work, there's no code/program to drop down to ohci
[04:12] <sheepdog> howabout the blank spaces inbetween the lines and dots?
[04:13] <sheepdog> it looks like the background image of the bar has a line through it
[04:13] <laughter> nothing, i cant move cardapio(my menu applet)
[04:13] <laughter> i usually can
[04:13] <sheepdog> what happens when you change gtk themes?
[04:13] <skorea2131> hey yall
[04:14] <sacarlson> lubuser: maco I have changed from usb 2.0 to 1.0 before you can disable 2.0 I don't recall how I did it.  it made my wifi work all the time in 1.0 and crashed intermitent in 2.0 usb .  this was a via driver problem
[04:14] <laughter> umm, well i switched from elementary to ambiance and that is when the dots and lines appeared
[04:14] <whompapotamus> laughter:  create another panel by right-clicking on the top panel and see if lines appear - if not - kill the top panel and re-add all of your applets to the new one
[04:15] <laughter> whompapotamus, no lines on the new panel
[04:15] <alsem> craigbass1976: The path is  \\Pat-Toshiba\Roswell UFO    IPv4 is <IP_ADDRESS>  How do I find the IP for PAT-???  Also checked Synaptic and there is no cifs loaded but most everything with Samba is loaded.
[04:15] <lubuser> sacarlson: oh?  I'm not sure how, though
[04:15] <laughter> whompapotamus, thanks
[04:15] <whompapotamus> laughter: create all of you applets on the new one and delete the old one
[04:16] <sheepdog> meanwhile, can anyone access the ubuntu one music store?
[04:16] <sheepdog> I'm seeing an internal server error
[04:16] <lubuser> sacarlson:  the usb 2 port no longer works but not sure how to disable ehci_hcd driver from trying to use it?
[04:16] <laughter> whompapotamus, will do good sir
[04:16] <craigbass1976> alsem, they just changed the protocol name, not the protocol (as far as I know)  It happened a couple years ago.  Who is PAT? The linux box or the windows box?  1.1 is a computer, not a router?
[04:16] <sacarlson> lubuser: maco: usb 1.0 works ok it's just slower.  if you use it hooked to a hard disk I guess you will need 2.0
[04:16] <lubuser> the module is now in the kernel?  so, when I try to remove the module, there's a fatal error?
[04:17] <emma> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[04:17] <emma> why can't aptitude find that package?
[04:17] <lubuser> sacarlson:  yes, usb 1.0 and 1.1 works but the prob is the drive is usb 2 but the usb driver is not switching to the lower speed in order to mount the drive
[04:18] <rww> emma: do you have the multiverse repository enabled? have you done sudo aptitude update recently?
[04:18] <Hoober> Question: I installed NASM, but how do I launch it?
[04:18] <xangua> emma: tried reload repository¿¿ sudo apt-get update
[04:18] <alsem> craigbass1976:PAT-Toshiba is the Windows Vista box.  How do I tell the difference?  When I had the D-Link router the 1.1 was it.  But with this NEtgear I'm not sure what its number is and I don't know how to find out in windows.
[04:18] <Athar> Hoober: you launch it with "nasm"
[04:19] <craigbass1976> alsem, open a dos window and type ipconfig
[04:19] <lubuser> sacarlson:  that's how I understand it, anyway... not sure if it's right...but, my point is, in Debian, it will drop down to usb 1.1 (or 1.0?) and mount if I do it manually
[04:19] <lubuser> the drive becomes detected and I often have to mount manually
[04:20] <JonathanYC> Hello! As apt seems to have been overrun by some ubuntu-haters, could anyone tell me how apt identifies newer versions of packages for things like firefox nightly builds?
[04:20] <Hoober> nasm: error: no input file specified
[04:20] <Hoober> type `nasm -h' for help
[04:20] <lubuser> but, some instances if I turn it on during boot up, it mounts automatically ... but, i tested this and it's not consistent... not sure what conditions I need... frustrating
[04:20] <sacarlson> lubuser: oh ok then no use trying to keep usb 1.0 working.  lspci and see if he uses via chips in his usb stuf.  I'm not sure they ever fixed.  oh then maybe I should give you the comand I used to manualy change to usb 1.0
[04:20] <emma> is partner medibuntu?
[04:21] <emma> or rather, is medibuntu in 'partner' ?
[04:21] <nisstyre65> alsem: route -n
[04:21] <JonathanYC> No one knows? lol
[04:21] <nisstyre65> the router IP address is the Default Gateway
[04:21] <rww> emma: nope. partner is a Canonical repository containing closed-source software. medibuntu is a third-party repository containing various packages that can't be distributed with Ubuntu for legal reasons.
[04:21] <xangua> emma: no and no
[04:21] <nisstyre65> oh sorry you're on windows
[04:21] <JonathanYC> You don't know how apt, one of the most important pieces of software on ubuntu
[04:21] <nisstyre65> nevermind
[04:21] <JonathanYC> works?
[04:21] <lubuser> $ lspci -> pastebin
[04:21] <JonathanYC> That's just horrible :
[04:21] <JonathanYC> :/*
[04:22] <psycho_oreos> JonathanYC, whenever there's apt-get update it retrieves new packages list that are marked by different mtime or something.. if its different new package list is retrieved and then is scanned for any new versions comparing to installed ones imo
[04:22] <lubuser> http://pastebin.com/rmy1dyLb
[04:23] <JonathanYC> psycho_oreos: Ah, that makes sense. So even if something was numbered 1.0 but had a more recent mtime than 3.0, it would still install?
[04:23] <JonathanYC> I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely curious
[04:23] <sacarlson> lubuser: this comand forces to use usb 1.0 or did back when I used ubuntu 7.X modprobe -r ehci_hcd
[04:23] <tesuji> does anyone know the options to lsof to see specifically what files are being written to on disk and by what process
[04:23] <psycho_oreos> JonathanYC, well at that time it would then depend on the user, if the user wants updates to be automatically installed, it will be
[04:23] <emma> rww, xangua ahh.. okay.
[04:23] <tesuji> lsof has hundreds of options
[04:24] <lubuser> http://pastebin.com/zxVXigUs
[04:24] <JonathanYC> psycho_oreos: Cool, thanks a bunch. :)
[04:24] <psycho_oreos> JonathanYC, I think most night builds, like chromium for example has dates on filenames as well
[04:24] <emma> rww, xangua, im betting the reason that it wasn't finding ubuntu-restricted-extras is because i had not yet done an update.
[04:24] <lubuser> sacarlson:  that doesn't work in ubuntu anymore...at least, not 10.04
[04:24] <psycho_oreos> err chromium from ppa
[04:24] <JonathanYC> psycho_oreos: Cool. Thanks. :)
[04:24] <sacarlson> lubuser: ok sorry that's all I got
[04:25] <lubuser> FATAL: Module ehci_hcd not found.
[04:25] <lubuser> sacarlson:  that's what I get when I try that command.