[04:31] <Jordan_U> How do I access the ban tracker?
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> @btlogin
[04:31] <rww> Jordan_U: type @login in PM with ubottu or in an ubottu channel, then @btlogin. If you're set up properly, it should PM you a URL
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> Of course, if you do @btlogin before @login, it just ignores you :P
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> And it will forget your @login after a while even if you don't /quit (1 day?)
[04:32] <Jordan_U> rww: Thanks.
[04:33] <Jordan_U> I really like how it shows the recent logs from that time.
[04:33] <rww> Jordan_U: probably best to keep the URL in a bookmark or something, assuming you're the only one who uses your account. and keep the URL private, since it's your login credential.
[04:38] <Jordan_U> How long should I keep a ban on a blatant troll?
[04:41] <rww> depends on the op and the person. as I understand it, generally until they find their way to #ubuntu-ops or your PM window and agree to not act up in the future
[04:43] <Jordan_U> No communication from them (at least with me, and I set the ban). But eventually the ban list will fill up, correct?
[04:44] <rww> yup. at which point you look at your bans, judge which can be removed, and remove them
[04:44] <rww> we're looking at a few months before it fills up again, I think. I grabbed the graph of bans in #ubuntu over time and drew lines on it, and it came out to 3 months before we hit maximum
[04:46] <rww> http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/ircbans-year.png , the big drop is when all the uncommented bans got cleared out about a month ago
[04:46] <rww> (and 3 months was a conservative estimate)
[05:52]  * rww sighs at -offtopic
[08:10] <ikonia> who lets these fools into #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:10] <ikonia> we need some sort of topic in that channel or a better set of guidelines
[08:10] <ikonia> I know it's been said before, but it's just rubbish
[08:11] <elky> which?
[08:11] <ikonia> pretty much all of them
[08:11]  * elky is prioritising pizza before reading backscroll
[08:11] <ikonia> wise
[08:12] <rww> I wonder if setting +r would help any. Seems like a lot of the crazies don't bother registering with NickServ.
[08:12] <ikonia> yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
[08:12] <elky> lol
[08:13] <rww> I've suggested it before in jest, but the more I think about it, the less of a bad idea it seems :\
[08:13] <elky> careful rww, you're getting him excited again, and i'm too busy eating pizza to clean up the puddle.
[08:14] <maco> i took pills and ate pizza bagel bites today. it was yummy
[08:14] <IdleOne> the pills or the pizza?
[08:14] <maco> the pizza
[08:14] <elky> the pills let her eat the pizza
[08:14] <maco> the pills tasted like chalk but made the pizza edible
[08:14] <IdleOne> oh, well then that is good
[08:14] <rww> oh, I thought they let her deal with #ubuntu-offtopic. totally took the wrong interpretation there.
[08:17] <elky> rww to be honest though, if we could be assured by the ircc that taking a hard stance in -ot would be actively backed up by them, that'd be more effective than making it +r. a toy bot with decent rate limiting would also help as a distraction
[08:17] <elky> we used to be able to derail about 70% of bickering by pulling out bofh, chuck, t, etc
[08:19] <IdleOne> I miss lart
[08:19] <IdleOne> lart was nice
[08:19] <IdleOne> IRCC bring back the lart in -ot
[08:19] <elky> lart less so...
[08:19] <rww> IRCC please ignore IdleOne, he's had too much to drink
[08:19] <IdleOne> I have not
[08:20] <maco> is there still hammertime?
[08:20] <elky> !hammertime
[08:20] <maco> excellent
[08:20] <elky> limited use, it's not the shiny random ooh-what-will-be-next effect
[08:20] <rww> IdleOne: it was rather hard to get certain people to stop using rather unfriendly /me commands when they could point to ubottu hitting people with a baseball bat.
[08:21] <elky> yeah
[08:21] <elky> you're up against /that/ mental age
[08:22] <maco> i liked it when ubottu divided people by zero
[08:22] <elky> a limited lart list might work
[08:22] <elky> there were some really awful ones in there by the end
[08:23] <IdleOne> I think heavier handed use of +b might be good
[08:23] <rww> I think it'd probably be possible to CoCify @lart, yes.
[08:23] <elky> i think so too
[08:23] <elky> IdleOne, no, +m
[08:23] <elky> there's nothing mission critical about -ot. mute the bejeebus out of it imho
[08:23] <elky> but the ircc may disagree
[08:24] <rww> (previous statement does not imply that CoCifying it and bringing it back is a good idea ;)
[08:25] <elky> what do we have to lose. the off button is easier than the on button
[08:25] <rww> Perhaps we should declare December to be National #ubuntu-offtopic Experiment Month. One week of +r, one week of looser interpretations of various !guidelines... ;D
[08:26] <Myrtti> rww, Jordan_U, tonyyarusso just a reminder if you haven't seen it, bantracker has SSL now, ubottu isn't aware of it yet but replacing the http with https should work
[08:26] <Flannel> rww: One week of -c!
[08:26] <Myrtti> the certificate is selfsigned but still
[08:26] <rww> Myrtti: Yes, I updated my link copypasta accordingly. Thanks for poking people into doing it :)
[08:26] <elky> rww i think january is better, it's the gone-to-hell-please-schools-take-them-back month here.
[08:27] <Jordan_U> Myrtti: How does authentication work?
[08:27] <elky> Myrtti, ohai! you're really really back? :D
[08:27] <Myrtti> Jordan_U: authenticate as usual with ubottu, copypaste the address from it to your browser, replace http to https and rock and rll
[08:28] <Myrtti> elky: for time being
[08:28] <rww> On the first day of Christmas, IRCC gave to me, +r in #ubuntu-offtopic. On the second day of Christmas, IRCC gave to me two hours of +m, and +r in #ubuntu-offtopic. On the third day of Christmas, IRCC gave to me bans for three crazies, two hours of +m, and +r in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[08:29] <elky> lol
[08:29] <rww> By the time we get to the twelfth day of Christmas, I expect tonyyarusso to be the only one able to talk in there.
[08:30] <Jordan_U> I thought that URLs were still sent in plain text with https, but I just checked and it appears they aren't.
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> haha
[08:31] <Jordan_U> rww: And?
[08:39] <rww> or perhaps add "subjecting the channel to nonsense" before "other attention-seeking behavior" :\
[08:39] <rww> in the IRC guidelines, that is
[08:40] <rww> although that sentence needs rewording as it is, even without additions.
[08:41] <Jordan_U> I don't spend much time in #ubuntu-offtopic I think trying to limit "nonsense" is too subjective, and not really apropriate for an "off topic" channel.
[08:43] <rww> There's a qualitative difference between off-topic discussion and the sort of problematic behavior that happens in there, though.
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> I'll subject you to nonsense like there's no tomorrow!
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> See my jabberwocky-esque rambling a few months ago :P
[08:44] <rww> Anyways, I have to go to sleep. Have fun in opland :)
[08:45] <elky> liar, you never sleep.
[08:45] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: gyre and gimbling toves to you too!
[08:45] <rww> I have work at 08:00. It is currently 00:45 :(
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> I'll go to your work work if you do my homework.
[08:45] <elky> well that's silly of you
[08:46] <Flannel> elky: tonyyarusso just wants to get out of the snow
[08:46] <Jordan_U> rww: Hey, we're in the same time zone.
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> nah, I'd like to get out in the snow instead of being stuck inside doing dumbness.
[08:47] <Hobbsee> i'll do the homework if someone else wants to sit on hold to NAB to get them to get them to deliver my card either to my house, or a branch close to me, instead of in anothe state.
[08:48] <elky> lol
[08:48] <Hobbsee> i'm not going to melbourne to pick up a card!
[08:48] <elky> the same NAB that got pretty seriously fubared recently?
[08:48] <Hobbsee> that's the one
[08:49] <elky> you couldn't leave quick enough?
[08:49] <Hobbsee> wasn't particularly affected, actually
[08:49] <Hobbsee> but, card due to name change
[08:49] <elky> of course
[08:50] <Hobbsee> besides, westpac and c/w are out, so not much in the way of other choice
[08:50] <Hobbsee> that might be any better
[08:50] <elky> and why exactly do they think you're in melbourne?
[08:50] <Hobbsee> i've no idea.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> they called me about another card, which had landed in melbourne for some reason, and wanted to know where i'd like to pick it up
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> name change?
[08:50] <Hobbsee> yeah - got married
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Good lord you've been away a while...
[08:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:51] <Hobbsee> if they drop all calls at 8 when their call centre closes, i'm not going to be happy...
[08:53]  * tonyyarusso continues trying to process
[08:53] <elky> process what?
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> That Hobbsee got married!
[08:54] <elky> nah, it's not really that surprising if you've been in the right circles.
[08:54] <jussi> Happy Finnish independence day everyone!!!
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Last time I talked to her I don't even know if she was seeing anyone.  Feeling massively out of loop.
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> jussi: Wooooo!  Finally got the Swedes and Russians occupied with other things at the same time, eh?  :P
[08:55] <jussi> tonyyarusso: 93 years old she is! :D
[08:57] <Myrtti> here's a thought: someone should send an email about the bugtracker being available with SSL
[09:00] <jussi> lol, check out picture 3 - do you not think it looks like Mark? http://is.gd/ihny8
[09:02] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: it was kept pretty quiet
[09:05] <elky> jussi, heh at a glance yeah
[09:07] <elky> jussi, ack... 4th at a glance is a splitting image of my evil brother
[09:07] <jussi> heh
[09:07] <jussi> now I dare anyone to write a blogpost that hits planet with that picture in it... :P
[09:08] <elky> "Jussi dared me to do this <img..."
[09:08] <Jordan_U> jussi: You're a wonderfull catalyst ;)
[09:09] <Hobbsee> right, sorted.  they're now ordering all the cards again
[09:09] <elky> Jordan_U,  if he keeps up, next year he'll qualify for the gold spoon of stirring.
[09:10] <elky> Hobbsee, lolwat? not redirect... reorder?
[09:10] <Hobbsee> elky: apparently it's quicker to reorder them and send them to parramatta
[09:10] <elky> ...
[09:10]  * Hobbsee shrugs
[09:10] <Hobbsee> at least i can use the old ones
[09:11] <jussi> I have to go an order new cards for me also - cancelled mine when I lost my wallet, then found my wallet...
[09:12] <Hobbsee> oh dear
[09:13] <jussi> the short version of the long story is, my car broke down. tow truck came to get me, and delivered me home. wallet fell out in the tow truck, I thought it was gone for ever, then I cancelled the cards. then the tow truck guy called me...
[09:17] <Hobbsee> makes perfect sense
[09:39] <Myrtti> I think grub and grub2 factoids should be separated
[09:42] <elky> why didn't you order new cards when you cancelled the old ones
[09:42] <elky> because whenever i have to cancel a card i'm all like plz to send me new card right away because i need the moneys it dispenses
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Myrtti: I agree. They were untill recently.
[11:07] <jussi> elky: cant do that here, theres is a central card agency, that provides the 24h service for card cancellation and forwards it to the bank. then you need to go back to the bank and order cards.
[11:07] <elky> that's a bit broken then
[11:11] <topyli> jussi: i've done that too
[11:12] <topyli> i canceled cards, found my wallet an hour later
[11:12] <jussi> I dont have a real problem with the system
[11:12] <jpds> 1) Don't lose your cards.
[11:12] <jpds> 2) ...
[11:12] <jussi> given my bqank is open a lot more than normal banks (its part of a shopping chain) (well one of my banks)
[11:12] <topyli> i have also called my provider to shut down my phone, then found the phone a couple of hours later
[11:12] <jpds> 3) Profit.
[11:13] <jussi> topyli: thing is, provider can just pause it, then re-open
[11:13] <jussi> bank wont do that with the cards
[11:13] <topyli> no you have to get a new sim when they close it
[11:14] <topyli> or do you? i don't remember, this is not a recent memory
[11:14] <jussi> topyli: if they close it yes, but they can just block outgoing calls if need be.
[11:16] <tsimpson> usually they block the phone by IMIE, afik
[11:16] <tsimpson> *IMEI
[11:18] <topyli> when you report a stolen phone to the police, they will blacklist the phone by IMEI (so that reselling is more difficult). but if you simply lose your phone, they disable the sim
[11:18] <topyli> and start asking you what sort of phone you would like to upgrade to
[12:05] <Myrtti> oh lord
[12:06] <Myrtti> volunteers for this mess?
[12:06] <Myrtti> I need to go soon and I suspect mopping up may take longer than I've got time
[12:23] <ikonia> what's up
[12:24] <Myrtti> i5noc
[12:24] <Myrtti> he's apparently banned from #debian atm, and Gnea is having trouble with him
[12:24] <ikonia> dvanstone: is a pain too
[12:25] <Myrtti> he's been a nuisance the past few days but I've not been able to nail him from anything
[12:25] <Myrtti> and having said that, I need to go
[12:25] <ikonia> someone else had a problem with him yesterday
[12:25] <ikonia> ta ta
[12:46] <ikonia> why do people ask if something will work, then when you tell them "no" they carry on saying they will make it work, if that's the idea, then why ask
[12:48] <popey> People are idiots. Film at 11.
[12:48] <ikonia> I gues
[12:48] <ikonia> guess
[12:52] <Pici> rww: re: 12 days of #ubuntu-ops christmas, I actually started writing one over the weekend.
[12:53] <Pici> http://pastebin.com/WhjR3B7J
[12:55]  * Pici clearly has too much free time.
[12:57] <knome> lawl
[12:57] <knome> rofl
[12:57]  * LjL pulls the carpet from under Pici
[13:03] <topyli> hahaha
[13:03] <topyli> Pici: make that public
[13:03] <Hobbsee> Pici: rofl
[13:07] <Pici> let me polish it a little more and I'll throw it up on the blag
[15:34] <Myrtti> 9 noobies gnawing
[15:51] <Myrtti> the prize of "Who can type nicknames worst" goes to: [17:50] < dsquared2> mrytii..
[15:52] <Myrtti> !pm > xCasualty
[15:58] <Myrtti> there might be some trolls on the channel atm
[15:58] <Myrtti> my spider senses are tingling
[16:01] <Myrtti> yeah... excess flooded themselves off
[16:46] <Pici> meh
[16:46] <IdleOne> you saw that also huh
[16:47] <IdleOne> :)
[16:48] <Myrtti> hm.
[16:48] <Pici> He sent me a pm before after I told him that he was in the support channel.
[16:49] <Myrtti> Pici: may I pm?
[16:49] <Pici> Myrtti: me? Always.
[16:49] <Pici> Well, not *all* the time.  That would be annoying.
[16:50] <IdleOne> heh
[16:53]  * Myrtti drops the towel at Elgar
[16:56] <IdleOne> can't even paste a url proper so it is easily clickable :/
[16:56] <Myrtti> you're just using a bad terminal app/IRC client
[16:57] <Myrtti> terminator works fine :-)
[16:57] <IdleOne> I am
[16:57] <IdleOne> ?
[19:23] <jussi> Peoples, if you see a serbian factoid requested (from #ubuntu-rs), please check it is requested by an op there (/msg chanserv access #ubuntu-rs list) - if so, fee free to add channel specific factoids for them.
[20:35] <Myrtti> I have a nagging feeling I've forgotten something really, really important
[20:37] <IdleOne> the oven on?
[20:37] <IdleOne> lock the front door?
[20:37] <IdleOne> OMG the baby! where's the baby!?
[20:37] <IdleOne> :P
[20:37] <Myrtti> I have actually forgotten the hob on while traveling 50km away from it
[20:38] <Myrtti> and remembering it 2 hours later
[20:38] <IdleOne> the hob?
[20:38] <Myrtti> electric hob.
[20:38] <Pici> Whats a hob?
[20:38] <IdleOne> what's a hob?
[20:38] <Myrtti> silly Americans
[20:38] <Pici> IdleOne is Canadian.
[20:38] <IdleOne> I am CANADIAN
[20:39] <IdleOne> so what is it?
[20:39] <Pici> I'm curious now.
[20:39] <Myrtti> cooktop
[20:39] <IdleOne> probably a stove/oven
[20:39] <Myrtti> sorry, my laptop froze
[20:39] <IdleOne> hob is short for what?
[20:40] <IdleOne> how do you get hob from cooktop?
[20:40] <Myrtti> "In modern British English usage, the word refers to a cooktop or hotplate, as distinguished from an oven."
 Finnishians :P
[20:42] <Myrtti> I have no idea.  :D
[20:43] <IdleOne> it will certainly get you some looks in your daily life
[20:43] <Myrtti> mmmm hobnobs....
[20:43] <Pici> or is that hobknobs?
[20:43] <IdleOne> turn down the hobknob
[20:44] <Pici> Google has a lot of unrelated definitions for hob.
[20:44]  * charlie-tca has the whole stove here, not just the top
[20:44] <Pici> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define:+hob
[20:48] <Myrtti> hm, I sure hope whatever is happening in #freenode doesn't spread to #ubuntu
[20:53] <LjL> certainly won't while it's +r
[20:54] <Myrtti> I still have a nagging feeling I've forgotten something important, and it's not about IRC
[20:54] <Myrtti> arggghhh
[20:54] <IdleOne> Myrtti: don't worry about it and it will come to you
[20:56] <Myrtti> I suppose I should check my worklaptop about what it might be
[20:58] <Myrtti> !9.10
[20:58] <Pici> not eol yet :(
[20:59] <Myrtti> !grub2
[20:59] <Myrtti> hm
[20:59] <Myrtti> so in karmic it already was grub2?
[21:00]  * Myrtti counts with fingers
[21:49] <tonyyarusso> yes
[22:01]  * tonyyarusso giggles at Planet
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> "Loco with huge member" - oh, you DIDN'T mean .us?  Huh.
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> *members, rather
[22:03] <tonyyarusso> Apparently it's an English fail, and they mean they have a lot of members, not that their members like McDonald's a little too much.
[22:03] <LjL> i was thinking of yet another meaning...
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> Bad LjL!
[22:10] <Myrtti> someone has been watching too much Austin Powers
[22:10] <Myrtti> I'm the first one to confess.
[22:10] <tonyyarusso> Any Austin Powers is too much Austin Powers.
[22:57] <IdleOne> I didn't op myself
[22:58] <IdleOne> why did my client op me
[23:05] <Myrtti> magic!
[23:05] <charlie-tca> one of them "smartclients"?
[23:07] <Myrtti> is it just me or is -ot a total sausage fest right now?
[23:10] <Myrtti> ah, now they've moved on to talking about hardware
[23:22] <elky> Myrtti, pretty much down to comparing, yeah.
[23:23] <Myrtti> I should stop knitting and watching Attenborough and go to bed
[23:25] <rww> Statistically, -ot is a sausagefest :(


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[22:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> Test
[22:55] <Eickmeyer> Test
[22:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> Bridge works fine here. ?


[14:32] <ub68> I installed lubuntu today but my pc can't notice my WiFi adapter and Bluetooth device even when they are connected
[17:39] <cyberex> daeeee
[17:39] <cyberex> alguem brasil
 You have the multi-language channels, at lubuntu.me/links (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <cyberex> alguem brasil)
[17:42] <cyberex> ?
[17:42] <krytarik> !br
 No, but brasil is close to my country
 XD, are you a bot no? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <ubottu> Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.)
 ubottu is still accurate, those are valid channels
 on the IRC side, where cyberex is talking from
 ubottu was triggered by krytarik if you actually read the logs :P
 We have #lubuntu-pt
[17:46] <krytarik> Yeah, I was hoping it was linked in the factoid..
 krytarik: usually it's not, ubottu is the general bot, we don't have Lubuntu specific aliases for those in there
 ... yet...
[17:48] <krytarik> Well, there is the option of channel-specific factoids, and I thought some were linked at least..
 krytarik: hence the "yet" part.  I don't think we've had them adjusted for the international rooms yet
 because those were new-ish
[17:49] <krytarik> !es
 so that one's done, but sure about br (we also don't have a brazil specific room, just -pt)
 but this is a discussion for elsewhere, not the support channel ;)
[17:53] <pierreSoumis39> je donne mon ip teamviewer
 pierreSoumis39: We do not do remote help on others' systems, for security and for legal reasons.  If you have a question you want help with, just ask.  We don't need to TeamViewer to your computer to assist you.  Also, #lubuntu-fr may be a better place if you want to converse in French, there are french speakers in that room, and in #ubuntu-fr.
[17:56] <pierreSoumis39> i'm so sorry
 no worries.
 but remote team viewer is one of those things you hvae to be careful with 'cause you'll get remote badguys trying to do evil to your system.
[18:06] <teward> oh they left nvm


[16:24] <BluesKaj_> sheap, libc6 is from component main
[16:24] <Seveas> sheap: and there's no 6.4 version of libc6
[16:25] <sheap> Seveas: apparently there is: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libc6
[16:26] <Seveas> sheap: that's 2.19
[16:26] <sheap> Seveas: er, 2.19-0ubuntu6.4
[16:26] <Seveas> the -0ubuntu6.4 is the packaging version, not the package version
[16:27] <sheap> Seveas: ok
[16:27] <Seveas> sheap: what's the output of apt-cache policy libc6? And what's broken?
[16:27] <sheap> Seveas:  *** 2.19-0ubuntu6.4 0         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[16:27] <Seveas> that's not the full output.
[16:28] <Seveas> pastebin the full output
[16:28] <Majdi> collizion, I ended doing "cat packages.txt | xargs dpkg -p --force-depends", packages.txt being the list of packages from the ppa-purge output, then apt-get -f installl, then manually apt-get install some packages because for some reason apt-get -f install gave errors for them.  then apt-get install nvidia-331, reboot and HELL YEAH !
[16:28] <Majdi> so thank you all for your help !
[16:28] <collizion> Majdi: Nice! Good work.
[16:29] <Majdi> collizion, thanks again !
[16:29] <Seveas> Majdi: you just leveled up in Ubuntu :)
[16:29] <Majdi> see you ! good evening/afternoon, whatever :)
[16:29] <Majdi> Seveas, thanks ! :D
[16:29] <sheap> Seveas: http://paste.debian.net/138930/
[16:30] <BluesKaj_> Majdi, I still recommend you use a well supported OS like kubuntu for proper kde package support
[16:31] <Seveas> sheap: don't redact output needlessly. You may be using a broken mirror and haven't given me a way to check...
[16:31] <sheap> Seveas: don't think /var/lib/dpkg/status is a mirror but okay..
[16:31] <Seveas> sheap: 'repo.url'...
[16:32] <BluesKaj_> heh
[16:32] <sheap> Seveas: nvm
[16:41] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, do you have audio ?
[16:42] <bttf> hello, I just added to my /etc/motd.tail but the content won't show up on login. I tried setting +rx permissions on the file and also rebooted the machine but still no go ... what could be wrong?
[16:43] <philip> hello problem on asterisk
[16:44] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Nope...
[16:44] <Champagne> Still only two channels after reboot
[16:44] <philip> experiencing an issue on asterisk
[16:44] <Champagne> And the test from System>Sound gives no output
[16:45] <Champagne> When I did speaker-test -D hdmi it produced sounds, but speaker-test (withough specifying output) gives no sound
[16:45] <Champagne> So my conclusion is that the problem lies with Pulse Audio
[16:45] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, what does the F6 show as the soundcard in alsamixer?
[16:47] <Champagne> As running speaker-test (ALSA) with no output uses default device (Pulse Audio), but when specifying output device (hdmi) it gives out sound
[16:48] <sebbie> Hi guys, trying to boot a live disk but it's hanging, is there a way to get a boot log so I can see what it's failing on?
[16:48] <sebbie> it get's as far as grub but I don't get a boot splash. It just hangs
[16:48] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, what is card0 in alsamixer F6 ?
[16:49] <Champagne> -  (default)
[16:49] <Champagne> 0  HDA Intel PCH
[16:50] <Champagne> That's also the only entries shown
[16:51] <BluesKaj_> ok lets solidify card0 driver, add this to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, options snd-hda-intel index=0 , Champagne
[16:53] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Then reboot or mod probe before?
[16:54] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, just reboot
[16:57] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: Sound mixer still shows the same HDA Intel PCH and aplay -L lists Pulse Audio server as default audio
[16:59] <Champagne> When running speaker-test -t wav -c6  gives me: Using max buffer size 349524
[16:59] <Champagne> speaker-test -t wav -c6 -D hdmi gives me: Using max buffer size 5460
[17:00] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, with some intel audio setupd pulse audio isn't necessary, like my laptop ...I should have remembered , you might be able to run without pulse
[17:01] <superteece> Greetings. Is there a specific channel for Duplicity issues?
[17:01] <jazz> anyone here know about yowsup.cli ?
[17:02] <superteece> I have a bad volume in my Duplicity backup and would like to either override the hash check or skip the volume.
[17:03] <superteece> searching makes it appear that this is just a thing that happens and I'm out of luck but then why would Canonical include such an untrustworthy backup solution?
[17:04] <squeegily> This might not be the right channel to ask, but..
[17:04] <squeegily> I want to watch Netflix on my Linux computer, but I don't feel like installing Chrome, and extracting the DRM plugin looks like it's not feasible on Ubuntu just yet. My system does not support virtualization (processor is a Pentium 4), otherwise I would have just used a VM. Now, what would it take to get Google Chrome running in a fully untrusted way? Would a chroot be enough?
[17:04] <squeegily> But the suid sandbox code might let Chrome break out of the chroot.. so I'm not sure what I should do
[17:05] <squeegily> Would AppArmor be used for this?
[17:05] <jazz> just sudo install crome
[17:05] <jazz> chrome
[17:05] <squeegily> jazz: I want to install Google Chrome in a way that it cannot access my system
[17:06] <squeegily> I do not want that unholy closed-source Google code running in anything unsecured
[17:06] <squeegily> I want to run Chrome in an "untrusted" way, but my computer cannot handle a VM
[17:06] <SchrodingersScat> for netflix he probably still needs the chrome beta, at least last I heard.  which wouldn't be in repos.  But since the DRM is probably the part to be worried about, why would you opt to run it at all?
[17:06] <xangua> then don't run it
[17:07] <jazz> and there is no ppa available for it ?
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> !ppa
[17:07] <squeegily> SchrodingersScat: Because 1. The DRM isn't the part I'm afraid of - it's the browser itself. and 2. I'm fine with DRM
[17:07] <kostkon> SchrodingersScat, even the stable works fine now
[17:07] <squeegily> I would have just put it in Chromium if that were supported at the moment
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> kostkon: oh, neat.
[17:08] <jazz> anyone know how to get whatsapp running in sync on laptop/pc and phone ?
[17:08] <squeegily> So I'm looking for a way to "jail" the closed-source Chrome browser so I can watch Netflix while I wait for Chromium or Firefox to get around to adding DRM support
[17:09] <Seveas> squeegily: run it as a different user
[17:09] <squeegily> Seveas: The catch is
[17:09] <squeegily> There are setuid binaries
[17:09] <squeegily> It's used for the sandbox, since setting up privilege dropping needs root privileges
[17:09] <Champagne> BluesKaj_: I think solidifying the driver as well as changing output back to HDMI seems to have done it!
[17:10] <Champagne> MANY thanks! BluesKaj_
[17:10] <squeegily> But it's still a root-setuid closed-source binary
[17:10] <BluesKaj_> Champagne, glad to hear that :)
[17:10] <Seveas> squeegily: anything that's not a vm can break out to the 'real' system.
[17:11] <Seveas> You'll have to choose between trusting chrome and not watching netflix.
[17:11] <teward> Seveas: or he can launch it in a VM
[17:11] <teward> squeegily: ^
[17:11] <kostkon> squeegily, chromium will nevee add support. EME support in firefox is getting close. You can use pipelight instead. It will allow you to watch netflix in firefox http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[17:11] <squeegily> Seveas: Yeah, but it's a lot harder without root
[17:12] <Seveas> teward: read up, he can't :)
[17:12] <teward> Seveas: E: No Scrollback - glitch in hexchat cleared the scrollback
[17:12]  * teward apologizes
[17:12] <Seveas> squeegily: neh, all it takes is a root exploit. Certainly google knows a few that are not public :)
[17:12] <squeegily> Now that is a creepy thought.
[17:13] <kostkon> squeegily, also you could download firfox nightly and enable the eme support. But it is still pretty unstable afaik
[17:13] <Seveas> squeegily: paranoia ftw :)
[17:14] <Darknet> o/
[17:14] <___Axel> Can anyone convince me of why I should switch to Linux (Ubuntu preferably)
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> ___Axel: probably not.
[17:14] <kostkon> squeegily, i think the eme plugin in firefox is made by adobe if that makes you feel any safer
[17:14] <___Axel> I have a medium gaming PC and I don't know if it's worth 250W for just running ubuntu
[17:14] <Darknet> ___Axel, don't
[17:15] <Darknet> if you have no real usage for it, don't.
[17:15] <SchrodingersScat> ___Axel: more of a choice you have to make yourself, you're welcome to try it out.
[17:15] <squeegily> kostkon: It's not WHO made the code; it's the open-source sandbox Mozilla made to contain it
[17:15] <Seveas> ___Axel: depends on your needs. For gaming windows is definitely still better, though steam has quite a few linux games these days.
[17:15] <kostkon> squeegily, fair enough. you could give it a try at least
[17:15] <squeegily> kostkon: Yeah I'm going to try Pipelight
[17:15] <kostkon> squeegily, i mean it's still unstable
[17:15] <kostkon> squeegily, ok
[17:16] <Darknet> ___Axel Ubuntu is a technical operating system, its not for the new user, and if you have to come in here and ask that. it is really not for you. Stick with windows, but feel free to install ubuntu beside your windows, and just reboot when you want to try it, or run VMWare, and have linux in there.
[17:16] <squeegily> WAIT I just read that the Nightly has EME?
[17:16] <squeegily> That's awesome
[17:16] <kostkon> squeegily, y. you need to manually enable it though.
[17:16] <___Axel> In 1.5 years I'd have to work with Linux for school
[17:17] <squeegily> Do you know off the top of your head how to do that? Or do I have to Google it ;)
[17:17] <___Axel> (Not specified what distro)
[17:17] <Skyrider> Linux is pretty easy to work with, once it works.
[17:17] <Seveas> ___Axel: in that case, try Ubuntu now for a headstart. What kind of school?
[17:18] <___Axel> I'm not sure what it's called in English, but I guess college
[17:18] <Seveas> ___Axel: I mean what kind of education? Computer science, physics, maths?
[17:18] <kostkon> squeegily, better google it ;)
[17:19] <detjko> hello
[17:19] <detjko> i have issue
[17:19] <detjko> on ubuntu 14.04
[17:19] <___Axel> Applied information technology, but there are still 3 branches I'd have to pick from
[17:19] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | detjko
[17:20] <Seveas> ___Axel: once you know a few more details about subjects, we may be able to help you pick things to try on Ubuntu :)
[17:20] <detjko> i installed guitar pro on wine em. and i cant hear sound in it, i never used wine can someone help about that?
[17:21] <___Axel> Yea it's still a little vague... All it says is "You will work with Linux, a stable ......."
[17:28] <bubbasaures> ___Axel, This is support for chat #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:30] <Shellshock> is there a way to control the fanspeed of my graphics card (amd 280x / 7970) with the open source drivers?
[17:33] <LordDragon> hey all. how much swap do i need if i have 32gb of ram and only a 100gb ssd?
[17:34] <cfhowlett> LordDragon, if you don't suspend, you don't need /swap
[17:34] <teward> ^
[17:34] <LordDragon> i wont be
[17:34] <LordDragon> ok cool thanks
[17:34] <LordDragon> :)
[17:35] <ursnation> LordDragon you dont need swap if you have that much ram, but disabling it is usually a bad idea so 1-2g would be fine
[17:35] <ararob> what can i do about this? http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/aedb3b7e , i installed libjpeg62 because scorched3d needs it, but....
[17:37] <rberg-> no matter how much ram Linux will find something to swap out, I always have a few GB of swap for that
[17:38] <Seveas> ararob: how did you install scorched3d?
[17:39] <ararob> Seveas, from a .deb package, which i converted from an .rpm because i need the latest build, building it from source proved not easy.
[17:39] <Seveas> ararob: that's a recipe for disaster.
[17:39] <ararob> Seveas, i know, but, no choice.
[17:39] <Seveas> get rid of it, sudo apt-get build-dep scorched3d and build from source
[17:40] <cfhowlett> ararob, pretty sure we advised that "alien" was not reliable.  source if you must.
[17:40] <ararob> yeah, source code keeps complaining about deprecated functions wxgtk package
[17:40] <ararob> *in
[17:41] <collizion> ararob: In no way is converting an rpm to a deb a reliable or supported solution.
[17:41] <ararob> yeah, it was a shot in the dark.
[17:41] <ararob> thanks guys.
[17:42] <Seveas> ararob: deprecation warnings are warnings, not errors. What's the actual error you get when compiling?
[17:42] <ararob> Seveas, 1 min.
[17:43] <theblindghoulie1> hi
[17:48] <paradisebunny> hi, i am on ubuntu 14.04, installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop and tried it for a bit, and decided against it. uninstalled with apt-get remove, and since then unity is buggy... what is the easiest way to fix this?
[17:48] <Seveas> paradisebunny: did you do an apt-get autoremove as well?
[17:48] <cfhowlett> !pureubuntu | paradisebunny,
[17:48] <Xsploit> anyone got a prasing website
[17:49] <squeegily> Okay
[17:49] <Seveas> !pm | paradisebunny
[17:49] <squeegily> I finally got EME enabled and the user agent spoofed
[17:49] <squeegily> Let's see if Ubuntu really can play Netflix
[17:49] <Seveas> *drumroll*
[17:49] <bubbasaures> paradisebunny, I would do a install reinstall of the ubuntu-desktop  we don't really know everything you have done, what you have described so far should not be happening.
[17:50] <cfhowlett> paradisebunny, easily done: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[17:50] <ararob> Seveas, you're right, it was just warning, the build fails at, "Makefile:944: recipe for target '../wxdialogs/DisplayDialog.o' failed" , and i have installed all the -dev packages, as far as i know.
[17:50] <bubbasaures> thanks cfhowlett
[17:50] <Seveas> ararob: did you do the apt-get build-dep thing?
[17:50] <ararob> Seveas, yes
[17:51] <cfhowlett> bubbasaures, happytohelp
[17:51] <ararob> Seveas, also, the warnings are in ../wxdialogs/DisplayDialog.cpp
[17:51] <ararob> Seveas, i guess the failure is somehow related?
[17:51] <Seveas> ararob: can you pastebin the entire build output?
[17:51] <ararob> sure
[17:51] <squeegily> Welp. It's not working. :/ Oh well
[17:52] <MesaKillsGPUs> hello, im an overheating witness, does anyone have time to talk about fan control for a minute?
[17:53] <ararob> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/ET43Uev0
[17:53] <khudher> hello guys :)
[17:53] <Seveas> ararob: looks like the ubuntu package has some wx compatibility patches. apt-get source scorched3d and apply the patches to the source you grabbed.
[17:53] <bubbasaures> MesaKillsGPUs, response here is based on issue descriptions.
[17:54] <che2000> does anyone use dm-crypt to encrypt their hard disks?
[17:55] <Seveas> che2000: the ubuntu standard is luks (if you choose full disk encryption when installing) and/or ecryptfs (when selecting 'encrypt homedir'), so I doubt you'll find dm-crypt users in here
[17:56] <ararob> Seveas, but apt-get gets the 43.3 version of scorched3d, and i'm trying to compiled .44
[17:56] <che2000> Hi Seveas, I think luks is basically the same as dm-crypt (at least one of hte options)
[17:56] <ararob> -d
[17:57] <Seveas> ararob: apt-get source gets you the source, so you can copy and apply the patches to your .44 version
[17:58] <Seveas> che2000: hmm, a quick glance at the wikipedia page suggests that you may be right. Maybe you'll be lucky then :)
[17:58] <haskeer> Does anyone know how to remove defective PPA repositories? They fail to update with apt-get update
[17:58] <Seveas> haskeer: ppa-purge
[17:58] <haskeer> Cheers seveas
[17:59] <haskeer> And is there a way to list all available apt-get applications or do I just need to blindly guess and hope its in the repository?
[17:59] <haskeer> Im not a fan of the ubuntu software centre
[17:59] <che2000> Seveas: I am pretty sure that the installer sets up dm-crypt for the full disk encryption (probably using the default options). I am just trying to do this configuration manually so that only my home directory is encrypted.
[18:00] <che2000> haskeer: apt-cache search --- searches the software database
[18:00] <bubbasaures> haskeer, Be careful just cruising the repos, chances are there is a linux version of what you want, I would just focus there.
[18:00] <che2000> haskeer: 'apt seach' works too in the newer versions of apt
[18:01] <Mathis> keryx isnt in the repository?
[18:01] <Seveas> che2000: dm-crypt/luks are for full volume encryptions. If you want just the homedir, ecryptfs is the way to go.
[18:01] <xchatter> With what command can I show the folder size of /home and all its subfolders and content? Want to see if /home fits on an USB stick
[18:01] <haskeer> Cheers, and I'm not after any external apps yet, just wanting to get my bearings. Last unix OS I used was BTr3
[18:02] <cryptopsy> what's the name of the kernel driver for charging a phone by usb?
[18:02] <Seveas> haskeer: there's synaptic, aptitude, or just less /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages :)
[18:02] <bubbasaures> haskeer, Cool, there is synaptic as a gui apt tool, I just use apt-get myself generally.
[18:02] <che2000> Seveas: that's true, but dm-crypt is much faster than encryptfs. My home directory is in a separate partition, so I think it should be possible to encrypt just that partition
[18:03] <Seveas> che2000: yes it shoud in that case
[18:03] <haskeer> Alright, cheers for the help
[18:04] <squinty> haskeer:  fwiw, in Software and Updates you can add/remove/disable ppa's simply by clicking.  for viewing the repo's (besides using the software center)you may want to install Synaptpic package manager
[18:05] <haskeer> squinty: Is Synaptpic another software centre client?
[18:06] <squinty> haskeer:  copy/paste into a terminal   apt-cache show synaptic  for details
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> !synaptic | haskeer
[18:07] <bubbasaures> haskeer, Synaptic precedes the software center by years.
[18:07] <squinty> or that  :P
[18:07] <haskeer> Sounds good, cheers guys
[18:08] <squeegily> 0o0 434MB of 9001 lib32 deps for Pipelight
[18:09] <squeegily> I'm not sure if this is worth it or if I should hold out for EME
[18:09] <haskeer> I've heard its pretty easy to access someones public IP over IRC. Any truth to it?
[18:09] <squeegily> haskeer: Yeah. poetazus's is <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:09] <squeegily> hehehe
[18:09] <Seveas> haskeer: that's a but OT here, we stick to Ubuntu support.
[18:10] <haskeer> Fair enough, I'l look into it elsewhere. Thanks again
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> !vhost | | haskeer
[18:10] <cryptopsy> bye for now
[18:11] <haskeer> ubottu: Cheers, got a few more questions but Il look into it elsewhere, don't want to flood the chat with OT conversation
[18:11] <haskeer> Well. It had me fooled
[18:12] <Seveas> it has more intelligence than some of our regulars...
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> haskeer: you can ask ip/vhost related issues in #freenode as the trigger shows
[18:12] <haskeer> lotuspsychje: Cheers
[18:13] <haskeer> Seveas: And wouldn’t surprise me hehe
[18:17] <ararob> Seveas, so i applied all the patches, the -wx patch was the last, and it warned me that some parts of the patch were already applied, but i patched the source anyway, and did sh ./autogen ,and make -j2 again, with same result.
[18:19] <mous_> hi
[18:25] <xubuntu-sol-bsas> Hello everyone, I'm new at xubuntu. It seems like there was a problem during the upgrades installation, and it was not completed. Now the system is running in a mode that looks like "safe mode", and I cannot connect to the internet. Also the screen looks like pixeled. What should I do? is there any way of unistalling these last updates?
[18:26] <cfhowlett> xubuntu-sol-bsas, now that I've seen the entire problem, I think reinstallation is the way to go.
[18:26] <jhutchins> xubuntu-sol-bsas: The best way to undo the upgrade is to restore the backup you made before you did it.
[18:27] <xubuntu-sol-bsas> Ok, thank you everyone!
[18:30] <ararob> Seveas, i had version 3.0 of everything with *wx* in it, uninstalled those packages, and installed 2.8, now it compiles. :)
[18:30] <Seveas> ararob: woo!
[18:31] <karthik_> hi guys here is problem while installing package gdb : Depends: libpython3.4 (>= 3.4~b1) but it is not going to be installed
[18:31] <karthik_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:33] <Seveas> karthik_: and what happens if you try to install libpython3.4?
[18:33] <karthik_> same error
[18:33] <Seveas> should at least be more informative. Pastebin the full output of both commands.
[18:36] <karthik_> Seveas: libpython3.4 : Depends: libpython3.4-stdlib (= 3.4.0-2ubuntu1) but 3.4.2-1+precise1 is to be installed
[18:36] <Seveas> karthik_: are you still on precise?
[18:38] <karthik_> Seveas: yes
[18:39] <Seveas> karthik_: looks like you have been mucking about with adding unsupported repos. Maybe backports. Clean that up and apt-get will be happier.
[18:40] <comp10> how to find unallocated partion use bash?
[18:40] <cfhowlett> comp10 sudo fdisk -l
[18:43] <sn4k3> buona sera a tutti
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !it | sn4k3
[18:43] <comp10> cfhowlett, thx. in result after type that command, i can not see indicator allocated/unallocated.how to know(read)?
[18:43] <ararob> Seveas, not so fast. it reached a point where it says http://pastebin.com/rPUb8Mfp , include files not included?
[18:47] <comp10> cfhowlett, but when i'm login for my system use root account , in default gnome app for see partion, i can see it (unallocated partion).when i'm try to format, it was failed. cause that i want to solve it with bash (format unallocated partion)
[18:47] <cfhowlett> comp try sudo cfdisk
[18:47] <comp10> cfhowlett, ok,i will try
[18:48] <comp10> cfhowlett, it is cool.
[18:49] <cfhowlett> comp10, happy2help!
[18:51] <comp10> cfhowlett, yes.thx
[18:51] <comp10> cfhowlett, i see list of partions
[18:51] <comp10> cfhowlett, in 'fs type' column, is it mean 'unallocated'?
[18:52] <comp10> cfhowlett, that i mean i see "free space", it mean 'unallocated"?
[18:52] <blackyboy> btrfs now in production environment ? Can i use in production ?
[18:52] <cfhowlett> comp10, correct
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | blackyboy
[18:53] <blackyboy> oh cool
[18:54] <wxl> ok, i got a fun one for you chaps: logitech t630 bluetooth mouse. has keyboard events that i'd like to disable. how?
[18:54] <comp10> cfhowlett, is 'new' option=format?
[18:55] <wxl> i tried disabling the buttons with xinput, but that didn't really do much.
[18:55] <comp10> cfhowlett, which i choose, 'new' or 'write'?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> wxl: maybe gpointing-device-settings can help you
[18:55] <cfhowlett> comp10, I rarely use cfdisk ... fdisk fits me better :)  read the man cfdisk page.  new makes a new partition.  write actually makes the changes you've set
[18:56] <wxl> lotuspsychje: i'm in kubuntu but i'll give it a go
[18:57] <wxl> lotuspsychje: nope, segault
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> !info gpointing-device-settings | wxl
[18:57] <comp10> cfhowlett, ok, thx .. i will read it .thx
[18:57] <wxl> lotuspsychje: well ahead of you, but no workie.
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> wxl: what command did you type for install?
[18:58] <wxl> lotuspsychje: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install gpointing-device-settings
[18:59] <wxl> lotuspsychje: the issue is not installation, but the fact that it segfauls on run.
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> oh
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> wxl: well i never tested it on kubuntu myself
[19:00]  * wxl shrugs
[19:00] <wxl> of course we don't even know that it will actually work, so we might be chasing a red herring
[19:02] <wxl> i'll go see if they can find anything better i guess
[19:05] <Pukc> hello
[19:06] <MesaKillsGPUs> hello :)
[19:06] <Pukc> :)
[19:06] <Pukc> how are you?
[19:07] <MesaKillsGPUs> im fine but i still dont know how to control my gpus fans
[19:07] <MesaKillsGPUs> :D
[19:07] <squeegily> MesaKillsGPUs: I don't think it does though. My friend had a fried graphics card that could only be used in safe mode
[19:07] <squeegily> With the Mesa driver
[19:07] <MesaKillsGPUs> this name is grossly exaggregated
[19:08] <MesaKillsGPUs> i just searched the whole day for a solution to controling my fanspeed because i have an aftermarket cooler
[19:08] <MesaKillsGPUs> and still havent found it
[19:08] <MesaKillsGPUs> :D
[19:08] <squeegily> Make your own water cooling system
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> !info psensor | MesaKillsGPUs
[19:08] <jhutchins> MesaKillsGPUs: Fan Speed Control is a motherboard/BIOS function.  Some boards have an interface for control, but not all.
[19:09] <MesaKillsGPUs> i have found psensor, but im searching for a way to control the fans of my graphics card (amd 280x / 7970)
[19:10] <MesaKillsGPUs> which only worked with fglrx
[19:12] <Dulcin> Is there a way to see which file is keeping a specific port occupied (instead of the program/id, I want to see exactly what is running)?
[19:12] <Defunkt> netstat -atunp
[19:15] <Pukc> mumble
[19:21] <subterfugium> anyone know what's wrong with gnome-lirc-properties? missing dependency to HAL even if I'm using trusty which has ha lintegrated udev?
[19:21] <subterfugium> I found several bugs bot no workarounds
[19:22] <Dalvlad> Hello wrold :)
[19:27] <cristian_c> Hello
[19:27] <cristian_c> I'm using 14.04 trusty, but I can't make working wifi connection
[19:28] <cristian_c> Wifi chip is rtl8821ae, and I don't see my network in the network manager applet
[19:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:29] <jhutchins> cristian_c: First step is dmesg | less and look for relevant messages as it loads.
[19:29] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Also ifconfig /a to see if the interface shows up.
[19:30] <cristian_c> jhutchins, interface is shown, other networks are detected, but not mine
[19:31] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Interesting.  Are you not broadcasting the SSID perhaps?
[19:31] <nmatrix9> Hey guys just had something weird happen I installed 2 new plasma widgets veromo mix volume control and a load viewer on my top panel.  I logged out of the kdm session and logged back in and then all of a sudden this happened to the panel: http://picpaste.com/snapshot1-L0IGIcbW.png
[19:31] <jhutchins> cristian_c: If it detects other networks then we pretty much know it's working and it's something special about your network.
[19:31] <cristian_c> jhutchins, with stock kernel (3.13.x) dmesg shows some messages (from 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz and from 5 GHz to 2.4 GHz), With 3.18.x kernel these messages disappear but I can't select my network anyway
[19:31] <nmatrix9> I removed those widgets did a reboot, fsck and nothing changed
[19:32] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, run iwconfig
[19:32] <basichash> How do I clear all notifications?
[19:32] <nmatrix9> Iam trying to figure out wtf happened and how can I restore normal color back to my desktop
[19:32] <basichash> the 'battery critically low' notification is stuck on my screen
[19:33] <basichash> there's no 'close' icon
[19:33] <cristian_c> jhutchins, no, I've set up the SSID properly
[19:33] <nmatrix9> There's an application called "active-settings" and all it's showing is a black screen
[19:33] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Do you have any other wireless devices that see it?
[19:33] <jhutchins> cristian_c: Is it on a compatible mode?
[19:33] <quidnunc> I have 2 disks, an SSD and a slower rotational disk. I want to divide my home directory among those disks so that directories with large files are on rotational storage and everything else is on the SSD. Right now I have /home on the SSD and am using symlinks on the directories with large files. But I don't like this solution, symlinks are treated differently than normal files and I have to constantly remember to accomodate them.
[19:33] <quidnunc> there a better solution?
[19:34] <nmatrix9> Is there a command or option to reset my plasma desktop to default?
[19:34] <nmatrix9> in Kubuntu
[19:34] <nmatrix9> The colors are all screwed up
[19:35] <compdoc> quidnunc, you can use fstab to mount directories on the various drives
[19:37] <quidnunc> compdoc: Messy with lots of directories
[19:38] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, try this link http://bit.ly/1Ajo6qX
[19:39] <subterfugium> anyone know what's wrong with gnome-lirc-properties? missing dependency to HAL even if I'm using trusty which has ha lintegrated udev?
[19:39] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak,  Iam worried I may have downloaded some sort of kde widget that somehow is a conflict with the the plasma workspace
[19:41] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, Try this one - http://bit.ly/1vRFKOw
[19:41] <cristian_c> jhutchins, yeah, usb wifi card
[19:41] <cristian_c> jhutchins, I think it's in automatic mode
[19:42] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, the command didn't work
[19:43] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, Try this one - http://bit.ly/1vRFKOw
[19:43] <glitch256> morning all i have a doozi of a question and wonderin if here or another chat is best for it
[19:43] <glitch256> im trying to play a bluray disk
[19:44] <MesaKillsGPUs> how can i mine buttcoins with ubuttu?
[19:44] <cristian_c> !paste
[19:44] <jhutchins> glitch256: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:46] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9661143/
[19:46] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, also something to note my All Applications -> Settings when I click on it just gives me a black screen, just something to note
[19:46] <BluesKaj> cristian_c,  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:47] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, then, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[19:47] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, but it's already up
[19:48] <cristian_c> :O
[19:48] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, the last command should show the essid
[19:48] <glitch256> jhutchins: i have installed makemkv libaacs libbluray  basically followed all the tutorials i have found online try running makemkv and stream to vlc or xbmc  nothing happens try to play with  vlc or xbmc nothing happens  cant even get any error codes  but i can rip the bluray and have the file
[19:49] <glitch256> jhutchins:  sorry for the long post  but i felt it was better than multi lines
[19:50] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, it returns only the prompt
[19:50] <cristian_c> ah, sorry '-i essid', I try
[19:50] <BluesKaj> what about network manager , have you checked it since, cristian_c ?
[19:51] <cristian_c> ok, it returns a list of essids
[19:51] <cristian_c> but my network it's not listed
[19:51] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, it worked!
[19:52] <cristian_c> four essids returned
[19:52] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, awesome!
[19:52] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, and I've narrowed the cause of the issue
[19:52] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, what was it?
 what about network manager , have you checked it since, cristian_c ?
[19:52] <cristian_c> can you explain the question better?
[19:53] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, I have a application in my kubuntu start menu called "settings" when I click on it, it brings up a window with title called "active-settings" I believe it is a kde desktop settings app, but it looks like it's borked
[19:53] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, because the moment I click on it, that's when the issue appears all over again.
[19:54] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, Iam wondering if there is a way to reinstall that kde-desktop settings app again
[19:54] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, Iam gonna try it with synaptic
[19:55] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, does network manager show your essid ?
[19:55] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, no
[19:55] <nmatrix9> techsuperfreak, I think I found it,  It's called plasma-active-settings  Iam gonna purge it.
[19:56] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, with this chip, no
[19:56] <techsuperfreak> nmatrix9, get at it
[19:56] <BluesKaj> if so click on it and enter your passwd and it should connect
 jhutchins, interface is shown, other networks are detected, but not mine
[19:56] <glitch256> nmatrix9:  thinking purge and reinstall  make sure you take config files with it
[19:56] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, no, it's not shown, I've tried to add it manually
[19:57] <cristian_c> typing the essid
[19:58] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, what router/ap brand/model are you trying to connect to?
[19:59] <Skyrider> What is plymouth ?
[19:59] <Skyrider> I get this on my laptop when HDMI is connected.
[19:59] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, it's provided from the ISP
[19:59] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, do you know if it is trying to do any speedboosting, like wireless-n 300 or something?
[19:59] <danishanish> What's a good task manager besides the vanilla one?
[20:00] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, I can access to configuration interface of the router, what have I to check about it?
[20:01] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, I don't know because I can use other wifi cards
[20:01] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, we just want to make sure it is running a vanilla version of any of the wireless specs - b,g,n
[20:01] <bubbasaures> danishanish, You might look at conkies tons of configs out there,
[20:01] <dts|pokeball> can anyone recommend good sandboxes for ubuntu?
[20:01] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, ok
[20:01] <bubbasaures> danishanish, app is conky
[20:02] <glitch256> ok any one have any ideas where i can find help with getting bluray to play on my computer
[20:02] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, what wireless chipset are you using?
[20:02] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, actually this computer is connected with 802.11g
[20:02] <glitch256> ubuntu 14.04
[20:03] <cristian_c> techsuperfreak, the buggy chipset is rtl8821ae
[20:03] <cristian_c> this chipset is atheros, instead
[20:05] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, did you try sudo dhclient wlan0
[20:05] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:06] <danishanish> THANKS BUBBASAURUS
[20:06] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, no
[20:06] <BluesKaj> or are you using 2 different chipsets, cristian_c?
[20:06] <flipsidecreation> is anyone running a 4K setup with Ubuntu?  I don't play games, just looking for a reasonably prices 4k video card that works with Ubuntu
[20:07] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, usb wifi is disconnected
[20:07] <danishanish> can you signature a document through terminal?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> cristian_c, so thew internal chipset is the problem?
[20:08] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, if I type sudo dhclient wlan0, shell waits
[20:09] <dgarstang> I'm having a little trouble with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat8 ... how would I add that PPA?
[20:09] <cristian_c> BluesKaj, I think the internal chip is the problem, in 12.04 drivers don't exist
[20:09] <ikonia> dgarstang: I advise against that
[20:09] <dgarstang> ikonia: y?
[20:10] <ikonia> dgarstang: because it's not made by the team who build/maintain ubuntu
[20:10] <glitch256> flipsidecreation:  im liking my visiontec 900690
[20:10] <ikonia> dgarstang: and I suspect you probably don't 'need' tomcat 8
[20:10] <dgarstang> ikonia: I don't know. That's what the devs asked for. Evaluating
[20:11] <ikonia> dgarstang: if you can't work out how to add the PPA - then you should really consider not using it as it will have dependencies for core things, such as java
[20:11] <ikonia> dgarstang: I assume you're trying to do this on ubuntu 14.01 ?
[20:11] <flipsidecreation> glitch256: How does Ubuntu scale with the 4k resolution?
[20:11] <ikonia> 14.04 sorry
[20:12] <dgarstang> ikonia: The UI has changed and the doc which says to look for the 'add' section, well it doesn't appear to be there
[20:16] <xangua> dgarstang: that is not a PPA to begin with
[20:18] <edu> is there a command in the terminal to show all the commands that can be used in the terminal? also, is there a document that shows each command and what it does?
[20:18] <cristian_c> edu, man command
[20:19] <Troy^> where do i find transmission's config files i used the package manager to install it
[20:20] <jatt> edu: xman
[20:20] <edu> man, just says 'what manual page do you want?'
[20:20] <jatt> edu: xman then select section 1
[20:20] <xangua> ~/.config/transmission I guess Troy^
[20:20] <Troy^> xangua: it's not there
[20:20] <edu> ahh ty
[20:20] <gnubie> edu>   I find this helpful    http://www.tuxarena.com/intro/cheatsheet.html
[20:20] <Seveas> edu: to see all commands: ls ${PATH//:/ } -- to find a manual use the man command, like 'man ls'
[20:21] <EriC^^> !cookie | jatt , very nice
[20:21] <EriC^^> :)
[20:22] <edu> thx for the help guys
[20:23] <Bashing-om> edu: Also :: http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/r10735/unixcomm.html <-summary of useful Linux abbreviations, directories, files, and commands , http://linuxcommand.org/ .
[20:23] <Guest44254> coucou
[20:23] <Guest44254> comment faire pour changer ip sur ubuntu??
[20:23] <EriC^^> edu: the gnu cmdline summary is pretty cool too http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary.pdf
[20:25] <azbesht85_> list
[20:25] <edu> nice, thx all, ive bookmarked all those links for future reference
[20:26] <edu> i want to learn how to use the terminal in all its glory, not just copy and paste other people's commands
[20:29] <Bashing-om> edu: Then ^ :: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0060.php <-learnng the shell , http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz <=advanced command line tutorial .
[20:31] <glitch256> flipsidecreation: very well use the  proprietary drivers you may need to xrandr the overscan  but works very well using 4 monitors
[20:32] <flipsidecreation> glitch256: Thanks.  I am looking at that card and maybe the Samsung 4k monitor to go with it.
[20:35] <glitch256> i use 4 large screen lcd tvs that have been handed down lets just say the extra power behind it is worth it
[20:36] <flipsidecreation> I have dual screens now, perhaps I will just more screens until prices drop
[20:37] <flipsidecreation> 1920x1200 isn't bad, but when I am doing remote support with clients that also have high res its gets to be a pain
[20:38] <RNeville> I just started using dual monitors- I feel like I just rediscovered the power of the personal computer; would like at least three monitors, now!
[20:39] <mucus> hello!  i'm used to using notepad++ on my windows machine for text editing and whatnot, what's similar and available for ubu?
[20:40] <flipsidecreation> mucus: geany is what I use
[20:40] <flipsidecreation> I have not used Notepad++ but Geany has worked great for me for editing code and misc files
[20:41] <mucus> thank ya kindly
[20:41] <glitch256> mucus:  i like gedit for most of my simple work aka outlining term papers
[20:42] <mucus> oh yummy
[20:42] <mucus> geany is perfect!
[20:43] <flipsidecreation> :)
[20:48] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, did you look at this yet? - http://bit.ly/1D0glKd May not be directly associated with your router
[20:52] <knoedl> hi, I just freshly installed 14.10 and am having trouble booting, I get a "invalid magic number" error when grub tries to load the kernel
[20:52] <knoedl> (i did it manually and i got it on the "linux /boot/vmlinuz..." command in the grub prompt)
[20:52] <knoedl> anyone knows how to solve this?
[20:52] <alvarezp> Hi. How do I add a [<-] and [->] button to the scrollbars?
[20:53] <techsuperfreak> cristian_c, Here's another one - http://bit.ly/1ygDaHG
[20:53] <alvarezp> Sorry, incomplete question: How do I add a [<-] and [->] button to the scrollbars *without using overlay scrollbars*?
[20:59] <rimad> hey guys, i want tomcat7 user to be able to read my home directory, i added tomcat7 to my group and have 770 chmod to the directory i want to make available to tomcat7
[20:59] <rimad> however i still get permission denied :/
[20:59] <rimad> any ideas what I could do?
[21:08] <lahwran> how do I temporarily shut off ipv6 on an interface?
[21:08] <lahwran> while keeping ipv4 on
[21:12] <jhutchins> rimad: That's sort of backwards.
[21:13] <jhutchins> rimad: You could make tomcat7 a member of the rimad group, which is probably the group owner of the files, or change group ownership of the files to tomcat7.
[21:13] <squinty> lahwran: network manager has options for that  Edit > ipv6
[21:13] <lahwran> let me rephrase. I'm on a vps, ubuntu server edition
[21:14] <lahwran> I need to do it from the commandline
[21:15] <pipi-> lahwran: http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
[21:16] <jhutchins> lahwran: This looks useful http://www.taylorbyte.com/smf/index.php?topic=2.0
[21:16] <lahwran> kay, thanks
[21:18] <levo> where can i find desktop sharing settings on lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS? also asked in #lubuntu but no answer
[21:19] <jhutchins> levo: You could also try #lxde - i don't know if it has an internal desktop sharing configuration.
[21:19] <jhutchins> levo: you can use VNC or RDP
[21:19] <Kartagis> levo: should be in Preferences
[21:21] <lahwran> anyone have any idea why icmp would work over ipv6, but tcp would get dropped? I flushed iptables, so that's not the problem
[21:22] <magicpat2010> Hello, I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu 14.04 Server where, if I execute a java .jar file, I lose my SSH connection and no logs are recorded. Any thoughts?
[21:22] <ikonia> magicpat2010: what are you launching ?
[21:22] <ikonia> lahwran: sounds interesting how do you verify the TCP connection is not working /
[21:22] <jatt> which jar file?
[21:23] <pipi-> "DisableNetworkConnectivty.jar"
[21:23] <magicpat2010> ikonia: It's Minecraft related, but one is jar to download and build spigot (server software) and the other jar actually runs the minecraft server
[21:23] <lahwran> netcat isn't able to connect to the irc servers I want to connect to, nor to google.com, when told to use ipv6. it works over ipv4. mtr -u6 doesn't work, mtr -6 does, to the irc server and to google. tcptraceroute6 gets no responses.
[21:23] <ikonia> magicpat2010: so what is the one thats causing the connection to drop ?
[21:24] <magicpat2010> ikonia: both
[21:24] <ikonia> magicpat2010: what happens if you do it on the console
[21:24] <ikonia> lahwran: what about if you just say telnet google.com 80 over your ipv6 address,
[21:24] <magicpat2010> ikonia: What do you mean?
[21:25] <lahwran> ikonia: okay, why is that different from netcat?
[21:25] <ikonia> magicpat2010: if you run the jar from the host console,
[21:25] <ikonia> lahwran: it shouldn't be - but it can be hence why I'm asking you to try
[21:25] <ikonia> to find out if netcat is the problem or not
[21:25] <lahwran> kay. it said "Trying 2607:f8b0:400d:c06::65..." and is now sitting.
[21:25] <lahwran> I typed in "GET / HTTP/1.0" for good measure
[21:26] <ikonia> lahwran: I'm going to make a common guess here, it's seen quiet often in this channel
[21:26] <ikonia> lahwran: your ISP does no have IPV6 transit
[21:26] <ikonia> lahwran: do an IPV6 traceroute
[21:26] <magicpat2010> ikonia: you mean from my computer? All of this is ran on a remote server through a terminal
[21:26] <ikonia> magicpat2010: get a remote console plugged in
[21:26] <lahwran> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/7ab80761739da0bef29a
[21:27] <ikonia> lahwran: no a trace route on your IPV6 network
[21:27] <ikonia> not a ping
[21:27] <lahwran> traceroute specifically? why? doing
[21:27] <ikonia> lahwran: do see where the route drops
[21:27] <lahwran> traceroute is coming back with nothing
[21:27] <techsuperfreak> lahwran: you didn't try to telnet to port 80
[21:27] <ikonia> lahwran: what is the exact command you are doing
[21:28] <lahwran> traceroute -6 2607:f8b0:4002:802::1005
[21:28] <ikonia> techsuperfreak: nope, nor is his other commands valid
[21:28] <lahwran> techsuperfreak: I didn't?
[21:28] <ikonia> lahwran: what is that to ?
[21:28] <lahwran> oops, you're right.
[21:28] <lahwran> ikonia: google's ipv6 address
[21:28] <lahwran> okay, telnet -6 google.com 80
[21:30] <magicpat2010> ikonia: When I run either jar file, it begins to start executing like normal but then it closes my SSH connection and I can't reconnect for a bit.
[21:31] <ikonia> lahwran: magicpat2010 right, thats why I told you to run it on the console
[21:31] <kajun> xsxxsssxxssxsxssxxs
[21:31] <magicpat2010> ikonia: sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "the console"
[21:31] <kajun> Changed some options, sorry about that
[21:32] <ikonia> magicpat2010: a console, as in the servers console
[21:32] <techsuperfreak> magicpat2010:  have you tried 2 ssh sessions and monitor one while launching the jar on the other?
[21:32] <David1965> I am trying to get BIGNUM.C to work as part of a random number generator all works except the fact that four digits don't get processed on the sixth block or am I doing something wrong also I am trying to use FOUR1.CPP as the basis for BIGNUM.C
[21:32] <lahwran> yes, that's where I'm running it
[21:32] <ikonia> lahwran: sorry, that wasn't meant for you, sorry
[21:32] <lahwran> oh
[21:33] <bahamat> Anybody know what’s up with this (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/releasesTable) having invalid json? Or better yet, where I can file a bug?
[21:33] <David1965> magicpat2010 I think ikonia means terminal is it not
[21:34] <ikonia> I don't mean the terminal
[21:34] <ikonia> I mean on the servers physical console
[21:34] <magicpat2010> techsuperfreak: I've ran My traceroute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR_%28software%29 while connected via ssh and it shows that it disconnects.
[21:35] <magicpat2010> ikonia: Can I do that when it's at a remote location?
[21:35] <David1965> I am bumbozeled
[21:35] <techsuperfreak> magicpat2010:  It disconnects all ssh connections or just the one that you are launching the jar from?
[21:35] <ikonia> magicpat2010: you ask the hosting provider to put a network/virtual console on it fo ryou
[21:35] <David1965> exit
[21:35] <magicpat2010> techsuperfreak: I'll try it now, it will take a couple seconds.
[21:36] <ikonia> its probably flooding the connection with java output, hence dropping the connection,
[21:36] <ikonia> his ISP is probably some badly setup virtual server
[21:36] <ikonia> hosting provider I mean
[21:37] <techsuperfreak> ikonia, distinct possibility
[21:37] <ikonia> seen it loads of times on badly configured host/guests
[21:37] <lahwran> so ikonia, to recap: `ping6 google.com` works. `telnet -6 google.com 80` does not. `traceroute -6 google.com` does not.
[21:37] <magicpat2010> techsuperfreak: it kills both ssh connections
[21:37] <lahwran> the latter two both fail with timeouts.
[21:38] <ikonia> lahwran can you post the output of the traceroute please in a pastebin
[21:38] <lahwran> magicpat2010: do it in tmux?
[21:38] <ikonia> that won't help the ssh session controlling the tmux session
[21:38] <lahwran> it will when you reconnect
[21:38] <ikonia> no it won't if the controlling session on the PTS dies
[21:38] <ikonia> who knows though
[21:38] <ararob> can i "disable" a package in the respiratory,  so it will never be considered as a dependency ?
[21:39] <ikonia> ararob: no
[21:39] <ikonia> ararob: it will just fail the dependency check
[21:39] <ararob> ugh
[21:39] <lahwran> you can make a package that claims to provide that package
[21:39] <magicpat2010> lahwran: I'll try tmux the session, but I've tried screen and the screen session disappears after it disconnects me
[21:39] <lahwran> why do you want to do this? it's difficult
[21:39] <lahwran> magicpat2010: wat
[21:39] <lahwran> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/9c576ed26fe5236d2744
[21:40] <leeyaa> hello
[21:40] <ararob> lahwran, because i want to install an old package, but, apt keeps trying to install the a newer one with it
[21:40] <leeyaa> does anyone know how to fix this on login : Failed to start user service: Unknown unit<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:40] <ararob> -a
[21:40] <ikonia> lahwran: I bet your ISP doesn't have IPV6 transit
[21:40] <ikonia> lahwran: I would ask them
[21:40] <lahwran> ikonia: what does that mean? as I said, I can ping things over ipv6
[21:40] <magicpat2010> ikonia: This is a server through SoYouStart (OVH) is that something I would have to setup to not flood ssh?
[21:41] <ikonia> lahwran: yeah, that would still work
[21:41] <lahwran> so obviously *something* of ipv6 works
[21:41] <ikonia> magicpat2010: I hve no idea what "soyoustart" is
[21:41] <traekili> obv
[21:41] <lahwran> that doesn't make any sense. if ping works, why wouldn't tcp?
[21:41] <ikonia> lahwran: because ICMP is not TCP transit
[21:42] <magicpat2010> ikonia: It's a hosting service that provides dedicated servers.
[21:42] <ikonia> magicpat2010: ask them to put the virtual / network console on your guest then
[21:42] <bahamat> lahwran: Try traceroute -I to use ICMP
[21:42] <ubunted> Installing ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 fails with "'grub-install /dev/sda' failed" , no specific error given
[21:42] <lahwran> wait, what does traceroute normally use? I thought it used ICMP
[21:42] <bahamat> lahwran: Looks like your provider is blocking TTL Exceeded messages.
[21:42] <bahamat> lahwran: Normally it uses UDP
[21:42] <ikonia> bahamat: thats an interesing idea
[21:43] <magicpat2010> ikonia: Any thoughts as to why it worked before but not now. Also, I'll put in a request.
[21:43] <ararob> for example i want to install libwxgtk2.8-dev, but it keeps wanting to install libwxbase3.0 and wx-common(this one is okay)
[21:43] <ikonia> magicpat2010: no
[21:43] <lahwran> ah. traceroute -I6 works: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/9c576ed26fe5236d2744
[21:43] <ikonia> ararob: let it install the dependencies
[21:43] <ikonia> ararob: why do you not want to install the dependencies ?
[21:44] <lahwran> ararob: apt has version pinning
[21:44] <ikonia> that wo'nt fix broken dependencies
[21:44] <ubunted> any clue ?
[21:44] <bahamat> ikonia: I’ve seen a lot of providers that block TTL Exceeded as a “security” feature.
[21:44] <ikonia> bahamat: it's a good thought
[21:44] <ikonia> I'd not considered that
[21:44] <lman111> hi there, would this be an acceptable place to ask for support with ubuntu server 14.04 running on a HP ProLiant Microserver Gen8 ? having trouble with the Raid Controller in AHCI SATA Mode
[21:44] <ikonia> I normally see VPS providers not enabling transit on the IPV6 routers
[21:44] <ikonia> lman111: just ask
[21:45] <lahwran> ikonia: so what do I tell them to fix?
[21:45] <lahwran> what exactly is ipv6 transit?
[21:45] <ararob> ikonia, because it interferes with a compilation of a program. i want that program to run with the old package.
[21:45] <ikonia> lahwran: nothing, ask them why it's not working
[21:45] <lahwran> ikonia: this is the first time I've heard of "transit" as a separate thing from "tcp"
[21:45] <ikonia> ararob: then you need to manage your dependencies buy building packages built against the right libraries
[21:45] <ikonia> lahwran: it's basically connection
[21:46] <bahamat> lahwran: It’s the same thing as IPv4 transit, but a different protocol.
[21:46] <lahwran> can you link me to an article explaining this
[21:46] <ikonia> lahwran: you can google it
[21:46] <lman111> well I have the server set in AHCI SATA mode, and I have 4 HDDS in the front bays, slot 1 is SSD running ub serv 14.04, the other 3 are just blank 2TBs. When i attempt to mount any drive i get "fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy" i think its to do with the raid controller
[21:46] <lahwran> bahamat: ipv4 "transit"?
[21:46] <ikonia> lahwran: why do I need to google it for you
[21:46] <lahwran> because you aren't giving me enough information to google it, I already tried and got useless results
[21:46] <lahwran> what is "transit", and how does it differ from just using ipv4 and tcp together?
[21:46] <ikonia> lman111: I don't think it is
[21:47] <ikonia> lman111: how are you trying to mount
[21:47] <bahamat> lahwran: think of “public transit system” i.e., the city bus. Transit is something that takes something from one place to another
[21:48] <lman111> i have tried ntfs-3g and mount.ntfs
[21:48] <bahamat> lahwran: it’s the proper way to say “connectivity”. It’s not IPv6 connectivity, it’s IPv6 transit.
[21:48] <lahwran> okay, you're just giving me generic explanations of what the name "transit" means. it sounds like you're just calling ipv4 and ipv6 by the name "transit", which would be perfectly sensible except that it also sounds like you're referring to transit as a separate thing
[21:48] <ikonia> lman111: how exactly are you mounting hem
[21:48] <lman111> with the mount command
[21:48] <lahwran> we've established that *I can communicate with icmp over ipv6*, so why doesn't *tcp over ipv6* work?
[21:48] <ikonia> lahwran: please show me the exact command
[21:48] <lman111> mount.ntfs /dev/sdd1 /mnt/point
[21:48] <ikonia> lman111: what file system is on sdd1 ?
[21:48] <lman111> should i be doing it by uuid ?
[21:48] <lman111> ntfs
[21:48] <lahwran> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/9c576ed26fe5236d2744
[21:49] <ikonia> lman111: is this a desktop ?
[21:49] <lman111> hp proliant microserver gen8 running ubuntu server 14.04
[21:49] <bahamat> lahwran: No. Saying your ISP provides IPv6 transit means that the fully suppor the IPv6 protocol both on their network and to other peer networks.
[21:49] <ikonia> lahwran: you showed that earlier
[21:49] <lahwran> ikonia: yes, and it answers what you're asking for
[21:49] <ikonia> lman111: so you are actually running it as a server
[21:49] <lman111> yeah
[21:49] <ikonia> lahwran: I'm not asking for anything
[21:49] <bahamat> lahwran: “transit” means someone that will provide transit between networks on your behalf.
[21:49] <lahwran> I don't know why you're asking again, the exact ping command that worked is in that gist
[21:50] <ikonia> lahwran: sorry, miss-tabbed
[21:50] <lman111> should it make a difference? Its odd that they cant mount when they are not in use
[21:50] <ikonia> lahwran: meant lman111
[21:50] <lahwran> oh.
[21:50] <ikonia> didn't see my miss-tab
[21:50] <bahamat> lahwran: and yes, it’s exactly as generic a word that you think it is. There’s no magic meaning.
[21:50] <lahwran> well that explains it, then.
[21:50] <ikonia> lman111: it looks like it's already being mounted under the fuse file system, can you pastebin the output of the command mount please
[21:50] <lahwran> bahamat: oh. but again, *I can communicate over ipv6 using icmp*, I just can't communicate over ipv6 using *tcp*. which is really wat.
[21:51] <lman111> ok
[21:51] <ikonia> icmp/tcp 2 different things
[21:51] <ikonia> hence no transit = no connection/traffic
[21:51] <ikonia> would it not be easier to just ask your provider
[21:51] <ikonia> they can confirm their network for you
[21:51] <lahwran> yeah, I've sent them a message
[21:51] <ikonia> rather than us guess
[21:52] <lahwran> look I don't know what you mean by transit here, but without what I thought you meant a minute ago, I would not be able to communicate over icmp
[21:52] <ikonia> yes you would
[21:52] <lahwran> no ipv6 transit? no icmp communication. but I *can* communicate over icmp
[21:52] <bahamat> lahwran: Are you sure about that? You’ll need to run tcpdump alongside something else and evaluate the flow. Ping or traceroute can’t prove that to you.
[21:52] <lman111> ikonia: sent
[21:52] <Hilikus> if i have two users in a server and they each have their user-mode pulseaudio, can they share the sound card? can they both play something at the same time?
[21:52] <lahwran> ah, now there's an idea.
[21:52] <ubunted> Installing ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 fails with "'grub-install /dev/sda' failed" , no specific error given
[21:52] <bahamat> lahwran: Then you might have one of the broken providers that’s really holding up the IPv6 transition.
[21:53] <Hilikus> it doesn't work in my setup but i don't know if it is supposed to be like that or i've misconfigured something
[21:53] <imufeed> Hello guys, I worked on my ubuntu last night and turned it off. Today when I turned it on I found it VERY SLOW. I searched the internet and finally I came to the conclusion that last night I ran the command: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". I have ATI graphics card and it is working probably. Do you know how can I resolve this problem?
[21:53] <ikonia> lman111: interesting
[21:54] <ikonia> lman111: please do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdd1 /mnt/wherever"
[21:54] <ikonia> lman111: that exact command, what is the output
[21:54] <lman111> ikonia: i did it as root before but ok
[21:54] <lahwran> ikonia: icmp operates on top of IP. I'm definitely able to send IP datagrams out of the network, as ping6 demonstrates. please explain further what you mean by "ipv6 transport" that somehow behaves differently from that
[21:55] <ikonia> lahwran: I've just lost interest, as you seem to be arguing with me,
[21:55] <Hanumaan> I have grub2 installed in debian 7 but my remote computer is right now in debian6(first priority) .. I want it to boot in debian 7.. how to do that?
[21:55] <ikonia> lahwran: just ask your ISP to explain their network usage to you
[21:55] <collizion> ikonia: Don't be a dick.
[21:55] <lahwran> ikonia: I want to understand, but what you're saying isn't making sense :<
[21:55] <ikonia> collizion: what ?
[21:55] <collizion> lahwran: What's the trouble? Maybe I can help.
[21:56] <ikonia> collizion: please tone down the attitude and language towards please
[21:56] <ikonia> people
[21:56] <ikonia> Hanumaan: the guys in #debian can help
[21:56] <lahwran> collizion: let me extract our conversation
[21:56] <collizion> ikonia: No.   Based on what you’ve told me so far, I believe that your provider is filtering packets. So unless you can provide more information you’ll have to take the issue up with them.
[21:56] <lahwran> bahamat: ah!
[21:57] <bahamat> lahwran: Though you may want to check your own ip6tables first.
[21:57] <lman111> ikonia: i sent cmd and output to privm
[21:57] <lman111> ikonia: still same
[21:57] <lahwran> bahamat: I flushed those before starting the experimentation
[21:57] <ikonia> lman111: I just saw it, thank you
[21:58] <bahamat> lahwran: Then I don’t think there’s much anyone here can do for you. Ubuntu in and of itself (as well as pretty much any distribution of Linux) has a well functioning IPv6 stack.
[22:00] <imufeed> Hello guys, I worked on my ubuntu last night and turned it off. Today when I turned it on I found it VERY SLOW. I searched the internet and finally I came to the conclusion that last night I ran the command: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". I have ATI graphics card and it is working probably. Do you know how can I resolve this problem?
[22:00] <bubbasaures> imufeed, Install htop run htop in the terminal and see what's running.
[22:01] <bubbasaures> dist-upgrade is a kernel and security call from apt-get
[22:03] <basichash> anyone know how to clear notifications?
[22:03] <basichash> i've got one that's stuck and not disappearing
[22:04] <collizion> basichash: I'll admit that I've only ever taken the cheesy way out, and logged out and back in.
[22:04] <collizion> basichash: I won't be much help.
[22:04] <basichash> collizion: yeah i don't want to lose all my opens windows, pain to set up
[22:05] <collizion> basichash: Understandable.
[22:05] <lahwran> bahamat: kay. I thought maybe I had configured something wrong.
[22:05] <collizion> basichash: Which Ubuntu release?
[22:06] <basichash> 14.04
[22:06] <basichash> using Pantheon as well
[22:06] <basichash> don't know if that's relevent though
[22:07] <bahamat> lahwran: If you’ve got transit, as ICMP proves that you do, then there’s not a lot you can screw up to break UDP/TCP only.
[22:07] <collizion> basichash: I'm not familiar with Pantheon.
[22:07] <lahwran> bahamat: okay, that sounds more like what I expected/asked here to verify
[22:08] <lahwran> I was worried I'd somehow broken my kernel or something
[22:10] <ubunted> Installing ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64 fails with "'grub-install /dev/sda' failed" , no specific error given ...anyone with a clue?
[22:13] <andlabs> Is there a program that lets me compare many identically sized binary files?  I've never encountered... There ya go.
[22:14] <andlabs> I need /many/ - more than two - files
[22:15] <andlabs> basically I'm comparing ext4 journal entry blocks to find the right one to manually replay
[22:15] <squeegily> How can I install the xwinfo command?
[22:15] <XCVB> I'm write a program
[22:15] <XCVB> that read the webcam
[22:16] <XCVB> when it crashes the light is still on
[22:16] <andlabs> "xwinfo"?
[22:16] <XCVB> I try using the webcam with Cheese
[22:17] <XCVB> It says there was an error playing from the webcam
[22:17] <andlabs> squeegily: what program are you looking for anyway
[22:17] <XCVB> How do restart the webcam driver/webcam
[22:17] <squeegily> I was trying to launch the xwininfo program
[22:17] <squeegily> I figured it out
[22:17] <andlabs> squeegily: x11-utils
[22:18] <squeegily> Yeah my problem was I accidentally typed xwinfo
[22:18] <XCVB> If I restart my computer the webcam works just fine
[22:18] <andlabs> also ubuntu comes with a package called command-nt-found which will tell you what package to install
[22:18] <andlabs> yeah
[22:18] <andlabs> the fun part is that x11-utils also comes with a different program called x*v*info
[22:19] <andlabs|2> in which I forget I'm still trying to get my IRC settings out
[22:20] <jhutchins> andlabs|2: Diff will compare binaries.
[22:21] <andlabs|2> it will compare /two/ binaries
[22:21] <andlabs|2> I need to compare /many/ binaries
[22:22] <andlabs|2> specifically 6, 10, and 206
[22:22] <collizion> Wow. Coworker left for lunch four hours ago. He's still at the bar.
[22:22] <Flannel> andlabs|2: What do you mean by "compare"? and to what?
[22:22] <andlabs|2> meh
[22:22] <andlabs|2> to each other
[22:22] <jhutchins> collizion: ex-coworker perhaps?
[22:22] <compdoc> ex-coworker
[22:22] <andlabs|2> these are all blocks in an ext4 journal dump
[22:22] <andlabs|2> I want to pick only the correct one
[22:22] <andlabs|2> meh
[22:22] <collizion> jhutchins: Today was his last day, actually. :P
[22:22] <andlabs|2> might as well go and parse the revocation data
[22:22] <andlabs|2> thanks anyway
[22:23] <Flannel> andlabs|2: So, you're comparing 6 of them to figure out which ones are the same? or what?
[22:23] <andlabs|2> to find out how they differ
[22:24] <collizion> Gonna go unwind, myself. Cheers.
[22:24] <Flannel> andlabs|2: That's not going to be fun, but just script up a diff for all of your combinations, I guess.  6 and 10 will be manageable, 206 won't be, because that's something like 2.7e386 comparisons.
[22:25] <collizion> ikonia: My apologies for earlier, by the way.
[22:25] <ikonia> collizion: already forgoton
[22:25] <andlabs|2> all right, thanks anyway
[22:25] <andlabs|2> I'll just figure out the extents data :/
[22:25] <andlabs|2> bbl
[22:26] <XCVB> how do I find the process that has my webcam open
[22:26] <jhutchins> XCVB: lsof /dev/webcam
[22:26] <jhutchins> XCVB: Er, I'm thinking of fuser /dev/webcam
[22:26] <Loshki> collizion: it's the day after new year. Anyone who *had* to go into work today is probably sulking.
[22:27] <herent> Hi! Does anyone know if it's possible to clone an existing 14.10 install on a single disk drive onto two new disks in a raid array? It's probably a bit more complicated because the existing one will need to be in an external bay while it's being done...
[22:29] <herent> Oh, and I was thinking raid 1, if that makes a difference. I just want extra speed, I don't need extra storage space.
[22:36] <jhutchins> herent: You won't see speed.
[22:37] <jhutchins> herent: We did a survey of our LUG and it's generally agreed that you'll only see speed if you have 5+ drives off a dedicated RAID controller with RAM and a price >~$350US.
[22:38] <jhutchins> herent: Less than that and you might be able to see some speed in a benchmark for a high-end setup, but you won't experience it.
[22:38] <r00tX> root
[22:38] <Guest98546> hello, anybody know the command to know if my system is 64 or 32 bits ? thank you
[22:39] <EriC^^> Guest98546: uname -m
[22:39] <Guest98546> thank you
[22:40] <herent> jhutchins,  I'm upgrading to two SSDs, if that makes a difference. It's an 8 core i7 with 16gb of ram. If it's not going to make a huge difference, I'll just install the OS on one and keep files on the other.
[22:40] <Guest98546> excuse me what mean x86_64?
[22:40] <EriC^^> 64bit
[22:40] <Guest98546> thank you again
[22:40] <herent> I do a lot of development in NetBeans with a ton of other stuff running, so even with what I have now it can be a bit slow sometimes. Like a minute or two to launch NB
[22:42] <Guest98546> other question, I wrote apt-get install flashplayer plugin... etc, but it doesn't work with chromium, anybody knows why ? thank you
[22:42] <EriC^^> Guest98546: you should install pepperflash i think
[22:43] <Guest98546> mmm i will try, thank you
[22:43] <EriC^^> Guest98546: pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[22:49] <jiffe> is there a way to disable the oom-killer?
[22:55] <matschaffer> Looking at “bzr branch lp:ubuntu/trusty-security/nginx” on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/nginx/trusty-security - I presume there’s some source I need to clone (more used to git than bzr). Where can I find the source?
[22:56] <ikonia> where do you mean where can you find the source ?
[22:56] <crops> hi channel
[22:56] <ikonia> it's a bzr repo
[22:56] <crops> join #hackers
[22:56] <ikonia> crops: no
[22:56] <ikonia> please don't spam
[22:56] <crops> how to join different channel
[22:56] <matschaffer> oh nm then. I presumed I neede some sort of code.launchpad.net in there
[22:57] <ikonia> crops: ask in #freenode
[22:57] <ikonia> crops: eg: /join #freenode
[22:57] <ikonia> matschaffer: no you need bzr
[22:57] <crops> ok ı remember :)
[22:57] <matschaffer> apparently. Asked too soon. Sorry for the noise
[22:57] <wafflej0ck> herent, don't know much about RAID but 0 striping is for performance 1 mirroring is for redundancy no? anyhow if you're upgrading from HDD to SSD that itself will be a huge performance gain
[22:57] <ikonia> matschaffer: not a problem
[22:58] <matschaffer> does bzr have “lp” built in? How does it know what to talk to?
[22:58] <ikonia> have what ?
[22:58] <Fauzruk> Hi guys, I'm running into a problem since I changed my graphic card from a GTX 570 to a GTX 970. I just can't reinstall ubuntu
[22:58] <daftykins> wafflej0ck: neither mode is a true RAID mode, only 5 and upwards actually give any true redundancy
[22:58] <crops> ubuntu is a love
[22:58] <daftykins> Fauzruk: what problem?
[22:59] <Fauzruk> When I start the installer I get an "Unknown chipset" error
[22:59] <daftykins> what installer?
[22:59] <matschaffer> ikonia: sorry like I said more familiar with git. But when I run a git clone I specify some sort of source on the internet. How does “bzr branch lp:ubuntu/trusty-security/nginx” know where to pull files from?
[22:59] <Fauzruk> When I choose my installer mode for ubuntu
[22:59] <ikonia> matschaffer: do you have bzr installed ?
[22:59] <matschaffer> yep
[22:59] <ikonia> matschaffer: the command is at the top of the page
[22:59] <daftykins> Fauzruk: 'installer mode' ?
[22:59] <matschaffer> it worked, I’m just curious _how_ it worked :)
[22:59] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: what kind of machine
[23:00] <ikonia> matschaffer: what do you mean how it it worked ?
[23:00] <Fauzruk> Try without install / Install / etc ...
[23:00] <ratsbe> And Fauzruk 32 or 64
[23:00] <Fauzruk> 64
[23:00] <daftykins> Fauzruk: so 'try' doesn't work?
[23:00] <matschaffer> so I ran ‘bzr branch lp:ubuntu/trusty-security/nginx’. Now I have an nginx dir with stuff in it. Where did that stuff come from? launchpad.net?
[23:00] <Fauzruk> Both of them doesn't work
[23:00] <daftykins> Fauzruk: you know you don't have to reinstall to change card, right?
[23:00] <ikonia> matschaffer: the bzr repos hosted on launchpad
[23:01] <ikonia> bzr branch = git clone
[23:01] <Fauzruk> It seems to be when it tries to initialize X or something
[23:01] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Fauzruk Read here, but know you don't need to reinstall to change card model
[23:01] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: are trying to install ubuntu on a Mac or netbook.
[23:01] <Fauzruk> I've read about the nomodeset
[23:02] <Fauzruk> I know I don't have to reinstall ubuntu to change card, I was on a different distribution
[23:02] <daftykins> oh i see.
[23:02] <daftykins> Fauzruk: so does nomodeset work?
[23:03] <Fauzruk> Nop it didn't work but I'm not 100% sure if I did it properly
[23:03] <Fauzruk> I pressed Tab and added nomodeset after the "--" where it was written behind the nospash etc
[23:04] <julian_> hello, anybody know how i can put by default one country to surf on internet in tor browser ?? :) thanks
[23:04] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: what machine are you using
[23:04] <daftykins> Fauzruk: you only have to hit F6 and enable it from the menu. go try again
[23:04] <Fauzruk> On the previous distribution I actually had to install the driver manually because the card is only supported by the nvidia beta drivers
[23:04] <daftykins> ratsbe: neither of the systems you guessed would allow graphics card swaps.
[23:04] <julian_> it is samsung intel core i3
[23:04] <ratsbe> julian_: a vpn is better suited
[23:05] <daftykins> Fauzruk: yes, likely... but you've got to get it installed first ;) so focus on the above.
[23:05] <Fauzruk> Yes I know, but that was just to let you know
[23:05] <daftykins> don't worry, it's not my first rodeo when it comes to graphics drivers.
[23:05] <Fauzruk> brb trying with F6
[23:05] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: remove card then install
[23:05] <julian_> i installed zenmate, but, it only have 5 country options
[23:06] <julian_> how i can install a vpn ?
[23:06] <yasine> heyyyyyyy
[23:06] <yasine> let me taaalk
[23:07] <ratsbe> julian_: zenmate is a vpn
[23:08] <julian_> tatsbe, do you know another option alternate to zenmate, with more options ?
[23:08] <julian_> ratsbe*
[23:09] <ikonia> more options ?
[23:09] <ikonia> what options are missing ?
[23:09] <julian_> option to select a country to surf on internet
[23:09] <yasine> hey zhat are you talking about
[23:10] <ikonia> thats not a vpn
[23:10] <ikonia> thats a proxy
[23:10] <ikonia> you don't set a country
[23:10] <julian_> what can you tell me about media hint ?
[23:11] <matschaffer> ikonia: oooh… I see. apt-get install bzr seems to include http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/plugins/en/launchpad-plugin.html
[23:11] <ikonia> julian_: whats the problem ?
[23:11] <ikonia> what do you need a solution for ?
[23:12] <julian_> ikonia, i need to navigate like if i was in colombia, but i am in argentina
[23:12] <ikonia> julian_: not something we are going to help you with in here
[23:13] <ikonia> you need someone with a colombia host to act as a proxy
[23:14] <julian_> that's becayse but i change the country my email accounts appear blocked and i need recover
[23:14] <Ryvius> Hello, I am getting screen tearing when playing videos (with Mplayer2). Any way to remove it?
[23:14] <ikonia> julian_: that doesn't change what was said
[23:14] <jim87> hello! I'm experiencing a weird freeze (kernel panic?) issue... thing is I tried to debug using netconsole, but the output is null (only few startup messages about conflicting device nodes). How may I debug these freezes? They're are random, but persistant. On Windows I don't experience this, so I'd exclude bad RAM banks. Thank you very much :)
[23:15] <ikonia> jim87: you can still have bad ram, OS's uses ram in different ways
[23:15] <ratsbe> Ryvius: it's a sync issue. If using proprietary driver. Change settings to always sync
[23:15] <jim87> ikonia: I used to compile Android, using all my 8 GB without any issue several time =\
[23:15] <jim87> times*
[23:16] <ikonia> jim87: that doesn't mean anything
[23:16] <Ryvius> ratsbe: I'm not, as it doesn't seem AMD's drivers works with 14.10
[23:16] <jim87> ikonia: so what do you suggest me to do?
[23:17] <Ryvius> jim87: I'm also getting random freezes which seems to be because of bad, old harddrives
[23:17] <julian_> ok, i understand, thank you
[23:17] <Fauzruk> Ok I'm back, so the F6 command doesn't work for me but I think that's because I'm not using unetbootin for the installation
[23:17] <jim87> Ryvius: I've got two WD Caviar Black in RAID (striped)... they're not that bad
[23:17] <jim87> (and old)
[23:18] <Fauzruk> Though I used the nomodeset and I actually don't have the "unknown chipset" error anymore
[23:18] <jim87> also, shouldn't the OS handle bad sectors? And shouldn't SMART detect imperfections in the hard drives?
[23:18] <Fauzruk> But I get error messages right after the BusyBox
[23:18] <ratsbe> Fauzruk: Are able to install
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Fauzruk: ? So waht are you using for the installation ? LiveDVD(USB) one should - as soon as bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shit key -> languahe screen, excape key to accept the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key .
[23:19] <Fauzruk> "Monting /dev/loop0 on on //filesystem.squashfs failed: No such device"
[23:19] <Bashing-om> shift**
[23:21] <Fauzruk> You mean that I have to press shift before I get the installation menu?
[23:21] <daftykins> Fauzruk: you should've read my link
[23:21] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Fauzruk here try again
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Fauzruk: Your last makes me question that you have a bad burn .. And yes to get to the boot options screen, as soon as biuos screen clears deptess the right shift key . ( for UEFI it is the escape key that grub will recognize) .
[23:24] <Fauzruk> Yeah the error message I got this time did look like a bad burn
[23:24] <Fauzruk> I will use my 14.04 iso this time with the nomodeset
[23:25] <Fauzruk> Damn I removed it recently ... I will try to burn the 14.10 again with unetbootin. I already checked the md5 on it so it should work
[23:28] <Ryvius> Is anyone else unable to log into steam?
[23:28] <XCVB> hello
[23:29] <ikonia> Ryvius: I'm logged into steam fine
[23:35] <jaddison> Ubuntu 14.04, I get this apt error (this is from aptitude): http://pastebin.com/1Wh94GyJ What can I do to fix this?
[23:36] <ikonia> jaddison: are you connected to the internet ?
[23:37] <dhci> I'm running 14.04.1 and I find myself running compiz --replace often, to get the mouse to pick up and move, resize windows again. Is there a good fix for this or perhaps by running metacity somehow permanently
[23:37] <jaddison> ikonia: Yes.
[23:37] <ikonia> jaddison: looks like either your dns or proxy is failing
[23:37] <ikonia> jaddison: thats too many repos from different sources to be a problem
[23:37] <ikonia> I noticed the 103 redirect failure, I'm wondering if you have a proxy
[23:38] <jaddison> No, I do not.
[23:38] <ikonia> jaddison: can you browse those URL's in a browser
[23:39] <jaddison> Yes, I just downloaded one of the bz2 files.
[23:39] <TheTopBloke> sudo, pointless?
[23:39] <ikonia> jaddison: so that looks like apt is using some sort of proxy then, as the web servers are clearly working and not redirecting
[23:40] <Marasgeon> youtube fails to start playing videos, I' ve noticed it the last 2 days after I cleared the cache, I have to refresh the video link to make it play, anyone with the same issue?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> TheTopBloke: Could you please rephrase your question?
[23:40] <jaddison> ikonia: Is this related, do you think? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685192
[23:41] <TheTopBloke> more of an argument, not that I'm right, just looking for some thoughts.
[23:41] <ikonia> jaddison: are you using aptitude ?
[23:41] <TheTopBloke> so, sudo, is pointless
[23:41] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: no
[23:41] <jaddison> Yes, ikonia.
[23:41] <jaddison> I get a similar error with apt-get
[23:41] <ikonia> jaddison: ok, whats the apt-get update error then please (pastebin)
[23:41] <jaddison> one sec, thx
[23:41] <TheTopBloke> or is sudo just more of a convenience?
[23:42] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: it's not really worth discussing
[23:42] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: it's the security model ubuntu uses
[23:42] <TheTopBloke> as opposed to say, su
[23:42] <TheTopBloke> maybe its for a security forum outside #ubuntu
[23:42] <ikonia> sounds a better place
[23:43] <jaddison> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/KnENv8fi - the error only appears at the bottom.
[23:43] <ikonia> jaddison: looks odd, as they are all getting hits
[23:44] <jaddison> Yes, curious, isn't it?
[23:44] <ikonia> jaddison: could you pastebin your sources.list
[23:44] <ikonia> lets have a look at it please.
[23:44] <jaddison> one sec
[23:46] <jaddison> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/BU2e6dqG
[23:47] <ikonia> jaddison: as a test comment out the ones that start with mirrors.ubuntu
[23:47] <ikonia> jaddison: then re-run sudo apt-get update
[23:47] <ratsbe> TheTopBloke: sudo May be useless if only you use the machine
[23:48] <TheTopBloke> good point
[23:48] <jaddison> ikonia: it works now.
[23:49] <ikonia> jaddison: looks like the mirrors are having a problem
[23:49] <jaddison> So I can understand, what do those lines do?
[23:49] <ikonia> they redirect you to one of the mirror servers
[23:49] <jaddison> I must have inserted them at some point, I guess.
[23:49] <ratsbe> TheTopBloke: or a download tries to auto install. The sudo command would prevent it from installing
[23:49] <ikonia> jaddison: no, they are standard
[23:49] <ikonia> jaddison: part of every install
[23:49] <jaddison> ikonia: oh, all right.
[23:50] <jaddison> Is this something that needs to be reported?
[23:50] <ikonia> jaddison: probably not.....but you could log a bug against it
[23:50] <TheTopBloke> So let's say, I'm using it, and only I'm using it, if someone gains access to my account, all they have to do is add sudo to they command.
[23:50] <ikonia> jaddison: uncomment those mirrors back
[23:50] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: they would need to know your password
[23:51] <TheTopBloke> right, my password, not root, that's what you mean right?
[23:51] <ikonia> TheTopBloke: correct, your password, there is no root password on ubuntu, the root account is locked
[23:52] <ratsbe> TheTopBloke: Linux don't have many Trojans.  But hopefully the sudo requirement would prevent one from automatically installing.
[23:52] <william1978> Does anyone know an irc channel for gufw, or may I ask my question here?
[23:53] <jaddison> ikonia: You won't believe it - after uncommenting them, everything works fine still.
[23:53] <jaddison> GAH
[23:53] <ikonia> jaddison: I would, you probably just had cache
[23:53] <ikonia> so updating the cache without them and re-fetching the cache made them work
[23:53] <jaddison> Thanks for your help, champ.
[23:53] <ikonia> jaddison: no problem
[23:54] <william1978> Can anyone here help me with Gufw?  I know it's not strictly OS based.  :/  I've looked for channels concerning this topic, and haven't been able to find any.
[23:55] <william1978> I've even used the forums and such, I think I'm just stupid.  All I'm trying to do is block one website.
[23:55] <ikonia> just put an entry in the hostfile
[23:55] <ikonia> easy way to cheat it
[23:56] <fauzruk> The installation worked!
[23:56] <fauzruk> The weird part is that I didn't even had to use the nomodeset this time
[23:57] <fauzruk> I guess I will stick to unetbootin now
[23:57] <TheTopBloke> Well really, on a server, it's for auditing. ie., who screwed up, Joe did. It was his acct that sudo'd the catstrophe we just experienced.
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> How did Joe get compromised.
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> At least we know who it was am I right?
[23:58] <ikonia> not realy
[23:58] <ikonia> really
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> lol
[23:58] <ikonia> sudo won't protect you from that
[23:58] <TheTopBloke> true.


[10:09]  * cody-somerville just upgraded to Maverick. :P
[20:33] <cody-somerville> hmmm
[20:34] <cody-somerville> I think I prefer Bluebird WM theme with Albatross GTK theme to with Bluebird GTK theme.
[20:35] <cody-somerville> I really like the new icon theme.
[22:18] <ochosi> cody-somerville: feel free to try greybird (for natty)