[15:03] <jens_> I have an issue with 3D-Hardware acceleration since my update to Hardy, can someone help me? (xorg.conf is at http://jensg.bplaced.net/xorg.conf, xorg.0.log at http://jensg.bplaced.net/Xorg.0.log)
[15:03] <drivetrax> chilly - use Alsa
[15:04] <chi11y> kron, why not?
[15:04] <Laser88> jrib: I'm still on testing - bug report if it's not my fault^^
[15:04] <Nasra> hello crowd: need to find out where to buy a box to install CentOs in Toronto not too expesive?
[15:04] <Chapai> like i said add the cd in software sources, if it cant use repository then it will use the cd rom wamty
[15:04] <magicrobotmonkey> anyone using hulu.com with hardy?
[15:04] <Movaria1> will it suffice to log out and log in again in order to test this or do I have to restart?
[15:04] <chi11y> drivetrax, okey, just bye me a soundcard that doesnt require oss4 first? ;)
[15:04] <jrib> !offtopic | Nasra
[15:04] <hwilde> codemon_, which mono version
[15:04] <kron> It freezing all the time, ff 3 is not near ready
[15:04] <wamty> Chapai: how to add the cd in softwarre sources
[15:04] <Dr_willis> magicrobotmonkey,  the flash videos there work for me.
[15:04] <kron> it's like a beta
[15:04] <Nasra> wrong channel: excuse at
[15:04] <drivetrax> chilly -- find a different sound manager, not xmms
[15:04] <tunafish> i cant even get ubuntu 8 to install whereas ubuntu 7 installed fine
[15:04] <Laser88> Dr_willis: you can get xmms anyway
[15:04] <jrib> kron: did you file a bug or check if one exists and comment on it?
[15:05] <kron> flash is screwed up.
[15:05] <codemon_> hwilde well I just downloaded ubunto yesterday and install mono from the package manager
[15:05] <atlef> kron: I felt the same, but it's working for me now
[15:05] <bazhang> chi11y: this is for xmms? try its successor audacious xmms is deprecated now
[15:05] <david_-_-> compwiz18: then i got this weird ip under the HOP RTT ADDRESS , i did a who is and it looks kinda freaky to me like a gov ip here is the who is on that ip http://pastebin.ca/1003916
[15:05] <Chapai> there is a big add cd button wamty under third party
[15:05] <chi11y> drivetrax, lol, I have a x-fi soundcard, and the ppl at alsa doesnt bother to work on getting it working because they suck
[15:05] <Dr_willis> Laser88,  i never said ya couldent. :)
[15:05] <bebe> i'm back
[15:05] <chi11y> bazhang, its ALL apps
[15:05] <ArtJoe> Hi
[15:05] <ArtJoe> I am new here and have a slight issue with conky that I cannot solve. Can some one help or point me to right direction
[15:05] <drivetrax> chilly - do what bazhang  says
[15:05] <kron> yeah, i got flash to work. But i had to press on a start button all the time.
[15:05] <chi11y> lol
[15:06] <zephyr_blore> my usb devices are not functioning, they get powered on for a second when i insert the usb, then they go dead. lsusb shows nothing
[15:06] <Laser88> Dr_willis: thought you would search for a solution
[15:06] <bmw> ЕЕЕЕЕЕЕ!!!! я инет на линухах настроил!!!!!
[15:06] <zephyr_blore> help please!
[15:06] <Dr_willis> chi11y,  actually the people at CREATIVE have totally dropped the ball on  their Linux Support for the X-Fi card. they said it was due to the extra work they had to do for the VISTA drivers for the card. it took all their manpower to get that working.
[15:06] <bazhang> kron that is default for all OSes when embedded
[15:06] <hwilde> codemon_, the mono from apt is very old - you should try the new version 1.9.1    http://swik.net/Mono
[15:06] <bazhang> !ru | bmw
[15:06] <compwiz18> david_-_-: looks like its just a reserved IP for something
[15:06] <foldart> ArtJoe: just ask away, if someone has an answer for you, they'll respond
[15:06] <Dr_willis> Laser88,  i dont want or use xmms any more. :) its got 'issues'
[15:06] <kron> http://radioblogclub.com was extremely  fucked up...
[15:06] <ligemeget> QUESTION: I've just connected my iPod to my PC, but Ubuntu doesn't find it - what do I do..?
[15:06] <Dr_willis> Laser88,  that other guy was wanting it.
[15:06] <tunafish> so why aint my hard drive being detected by setup on a clean install of ubuntu 8 but was detected on ubuntu 7.10
[15:06] <wamty> Chapai: PLEASE remember im in CONSOle
[15:06] <chi11y> bazhang, drivetrax, I know what I'm talking about. The problem is that alsa doesnt support X-fi. oss4 do
[15:06] <jrib> !language > kron (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:06] <codemon_> is there a deb or just src?
[15:06] <bazhang> ligemeget: this is gutsy or hardy
[15:07] <david_-_-> compwiz18: should i be worried? i didnt have it on the other ip i have.
[15:07] <ligemeget> bazhang, hardy
[15:07] <Chapai> ohhhh wamty
[15:07] <rerzerty>     Don’t throw that old PC away just yet, it still has some life in it yet. No matter how bad your old PC is it can always be used as a router, and your old router as a switch. All you need is two nic cards for it. Originally I did this on a Pentium 3 with 256 MBs of memory. I had that setup for around 6 months before the computer finally died. Never quite figured it out but it was either...
[15:07] <rerzerty> ...the processor or the mother board. But anyways on with the show. I will be setting this up on an AMD 3200 XP processor with one gigabyte of memory, an nForce 2 chipset and 450 gigs of hard drive space. The linux distribution I’m using is going to be Gentoo linux.
[15:07] <Laser88> Dr_willis: what guy? all too fast for me here - I'm German - and I'm in other channels too^^
[15:07] <drivetrax> chilly - PulseAudio ?
[15:07] <rerzerty> hi 2 all
[15:07] <bazhang> ligemeget: try gtkpod, rhythmbox amarok
[15:07] <mysterycool> how can i get another language to work in ubuntu?
[15:07] <rerzerty> is it possible to do the same thing wiht ubntu ?
[15:07] <Dr_willis> Laser88,  some other guy was asking about xmms  -  :) i forget who.
[15:07] <kron> what do u mean?
[15:07] <ligemeget> bazhang, neither Amarok nor Rhythmbox find anything - I haven't got gtkpod installed
[15:08] <mysterycool> i mean to be able to type another language than only english
[15:08] <tunafish> i think the developes really screwed up ubuntu 8
[15:08] <compwiz18> david_-_-: sorry, whre did you see that IP?
[15:08] <Chapai> i am not sure how to add cd via console wamty all this time i thought you were talking about what command to install
[15:08] <hwilde> rerzerty, yes of course
[15:08] <compwiz18> !offtopic | tunafish
[15:08] <mysterycool> tunafish: i think u are kinda correct actually
[15:08] <Laser88> Dr_willis: ok, perhaps I will catch him later^^
[15:08] <kron> i can write swedish and english
[15:08] <bazhang> rerzerty: sure but likely fluxbuntu or just a minimal install of ubuntu
[15:08] <codemon_> hwilde do you do any dev with mono? Can VS 2005 solutions be loaded and built?
[15:08] <tunafish> how the hell am i offtopic you idiot
[15:08] <hwilde> mysterycool, go up in the menu   System- >  Admin -> Language Support
[15:08] <rerzerty> is it a particular distro to do this ?
[15:08] <david_-_-> compwiz18: when i did a sudo nmap -A -PN on my ip address.
[15:08] <|Dreams|> why does firefox keep going a grey colour and not letting me use it
[15:08] <kron> search in synaptic
[15:08] <tunafish> im trying to ask for help
[15:08] <hwilde> codemon_, we just cross compile then run the binaries throuhg mono.
[15:09] <Dr_willis> |Dreams|,  with compiz - ive seen that dimming effect on some apps also when they are busy.
[15:09] <compwiz18> david_-_-: I dunno where that came from, but I probably wouldn't worry about it
[15:09] <zephyr_blore> my usb drives are not detected, they power up on insertion and then they die. lsusb shows nothing
[15:09] <bazhang> tunafish please stop
[15:09] <rerzerty> how to do
[15:09] <rerzerty> ????
[15:09] <tunafish> stop what
[15:09] <|Dreams|> after trying both ubuntu and kubuntu am not sure which one i prefer now
[15:09] <melter> how do i set the clock in the gnome panel to UTC?
[15:09] <bazhang> !minimal | rerzerty
[15:09] <Fritzel> if I wanted to completely remove compiz (I'm going to install it from compiz-fusion directly) what packages would I remove?
[15:09] <bazhang> tunafish you have been asked to stay ontopic; also no name-calling thanks
[15:10] <Fossilet> rerzerty, trois années.
[15:10] <tunafish> AND I AM
[15:10] <tunafish> except no one listens
[15:10] <david_-_-> compwiz18: ah ok. im kinda havign fun with nmap i might rly try to get the hang of all other codes i can find for it.
[15:10] <codemon_> hwilde it's really the only thing that has stopped me moving back to linux, but since I'm not keen to go to vista I'm looking for alternatives.
[15:10] <ArtJoe> thanks
[15:10] <drivetrax> there is a chat room .. named #compiz-fusion
[15:10] <ArtJoe> The issue I have is I am not able to get correct disk space using conky. When I use variables and try to get space for / or /home or any other directory all come back with same value.
[15:10] <ArtJoe> The syntac is some thing like this ${fs_used /}/${fs_size /}
[15:10] <ArtJoe> My drive is mounted on /dev/sdb1 so I thought that may be I need to put that in there but that does not work.
[15:11] <ArtJoe> Any ides!!
[15:11] <david_-_-> compwiz18:  i found this not sure if its a nmap gtk tool nmapfe
[15:11] <mysterycool> melter: right click the clock and go to Adjust Time
[15:11] <tunafish> so someone comes here asking for help and gets abused
[15:11] <tunafish> not a good way to runa  support channel
[15:11] <chu> anybody here?
[15:11] <compwiz18> david_-_-: that's probably what I was thinking of
[15:11] <tunafish> i have been for the last 10 mins trying to get some helpo
[15:11] <bazhang> hello chu
[15:11] <melter> mysterycool, i have to unlock it, and it asks for my password
[15:11] <melter> mysterycool, does that set the system time?
[15:11] <hwilde> codemon_, well then why don't you just port it to c++ ?
[15:11] <mysterycool> melter: then put ur password =]
[15:12] <atlef> tunafish: what is your question?
[15:12] <compwiz18> tunafish: if you want help, more question and less other stuff would be beneficial
[15:12] <codemon_> hwilde lol yeah
[15:12] <Laser88> tunafish: if nobody knows...
[15:12] <hwilde> codemon_, if you are really the codemon then that could be easier to adjust to than vista :)
[15:12] <mysterycool> melter: well, set the time to London, Greenwhich. that's the UTC time =]
[15:12] <Laser88> tunafish: 10" ain't a long time
[15:12] <david_-_-> compwiz18: wow nmap is pretty fun lol
[15:12] <melter> mysterycool, why do i need to authenticate simply to change the time zone displayed?
[15:12] <compwiz18> david_-_-: it is :)
[15:12] <Odd-rationale> Is it OK to use one's computer during the update from 7.10 --> 8.04? (word processing, web browsing, etc)
[15:12] <codemon_> hwilde well I make a living writing C# on windows so I'm kind of stuck
[15:13] <tunafish> the fact my hard drive aint being detected in ubuntu 8 install when it was in ubuntu 7 install and thus i cant install 8
[15:13] <hwilde> melter, you have to auth to change ANY system setting
[15:13] <bazhang> Odd-rationale: sure but be sure to save before rebooting
[15:13] <chu> qiu jimao?
[15:13] <melter> hwilde, i'm not changing a system setting
[15:13] <mysterycool> melter: yeap, u need to be root to do most stuff on linux =]
[15:13] <rerzerty> bazhang i just have to download that one and install it on my gusty system N
[15:13] <kron> How old r u guys?
[15:13] <hwilde> codemon_, that industry is doomed
[15:13] <rerzerty> ???
[15:13] <codemon_> hwilde not much demand for linux /c++ dev here
[15:13] <kron> i'm 14
[15:13] <bazhang> !cn | chu
[15:13] <Mimi> melter:  it's setup this way for security reasons. that way your 2 year old wont go clicking random stuff and change a bunch of settings
[15:13] <hwilde> melter, changing the clock, time, date, or timezone are all system settings.
[15:13] <compwiz18> !offtopic | kron
[15:13] <melter> hwilde, i'm not changing the time and date and time zone
[15:13] <mysterycool> how can I translate a program?
[15:14] <hwilde> codemon_, c#.net sux man
[15:14] <drivetrax> melter,  7.10 has a login-set-up feature where you can set - if local-no login
[15:14] <Laser88> kron: 40
[15:14] <`ph8> hey guys! i've just upgraded to hardy and my network card no longer seems to be able to connect, if i boot to the old kernel it works
[15:14] <Odd-rationale> bazhang: ok. because my friend got a message to during upgrade to cloase all open windows, what does that mean...
[15:14] <melter> hwilde, i have 2 clock widgets, one for my local time, and one i want to display utc time
[15:14] <`ph8> any ideas on how i can fix that? It's the ethernet ports built in to my nvidia board
[15:14] <bazhang> rerzerty: you have gutsy already? though you wanted to setup a system like the gentoo one
[15:14] <kron> mysterycool, use a dictionary
[15:14] <Mimi> Odd-rationale:  was it during the gutsy > hardy update?
[15:14] <`ph8> sorry abit/nvidia chipset board
[15:14] <rwycuff> hwilde,anythihnng in .net sux
[15:14] <Odd-rationale> Mimi: Yes.
[15:14] <melter> hwilde, to repeat, i DO NOT want to change the system time, just how it's displayed on 1 single clock widget
[15:14] <codemon_> hwilde yeah I prefer c++ but gotta pay the bills somehow
[15:14] <bazhang> Odd-rationale: that would be the add/remove etc
[15:14] <david_-_-> compwiz18: i installed it and am using it but it is little dif then nmap
[15:14] <Odd-rationale> bazhang: all apt releated?
[15:14] <hwilde> melter, just authenticate already geez.
[15:14] <drivetrax> melter,  0therwise, 7.10 asks for auth everytime
[15:15] <bazhang> Odd-rationale: aye
[15:15] <jrib> kron: please try to be helpful when helping
[15:15] <atlef> `ph8: have you tried to set it manually?
[15:15] <rerzerty> yes i have gusty
[15:15] <kron> i am
[15:15] <mysterycool> kron: -_-
[15:15] <Mimi> Odd-rationale:  that's why. that update is HUGE! it changes the sources and  it *remove* programs you may be using
[15:15] <rerzerty> how to setup ?
[15:15] <|Dreams|> is gnome slower than kde or is it just me
[15:15] <rerzerty> i never done that one before ?
[15:15] <mysterycool> kron: i mean how can i translate an application to make it available to others? -_-
[15:15] <kron> he wanted to translate. The is a dictionary perfect.
[15:15] <zephyr_blore> my usb devices are not detected. using hardy. please help !
[15:15] <kron> i see :O
[15:15] <Mimi> |Dreams|:  definately just you ;)
[15:15] <mysterycool> XD
[15:15] <Yodude> hey, i'm buying a printer for use on my linux system (hardy). I found a canon pixma mp160 and an HP deskjet F4185 all-in-one, and both seem to work well with ubuntu. Which one should i get ? both of them have practically the same specs
[15:15] <mysterycool> :p
[15:15] <bazhang> rerzerty: you want to install a net install? that is the minimal cd
[15:15] <kron> i was ironic...
[15:15] <hwilde> codemon_, the problem is that entire industry is under the thumb of microsoft, and this entire open source universe is eating away its market share as fast as possible.  so you should just convert now and be ahead of the curve
[15:15] <rerzerty> this is my first trial on using pc as router
[15:15] <compwiz18> mysterycool: depends on the app, might try their homepage for instructions
[15:15] <bazhang> kron please stay on topic
[15:15] <`ph8> atlef: The IP address? Yes, no joy - dhcp goes on forever without picking up a lease
[15:15] <hwilde> Yodude, do you like canon or hp better
[15:16] <Odd-rationale> bazhang, Mimi: OK. Thanks! I never did the update, I like fresh installs so I didn't know... Also I don't remember it during my update to gutsy... Thanks again!
[15:16] <mysterycool> compwiz18, i need a launchpad account right?
[15:16] <hwilde> !launchpad | mysterycool
[15:16] <Yodude> hwilde: well i dk, in my whole life i have only had 1. i just need to make sure that i get high quality pics
[15:16] <compwiz18> mysterycool: depends on the project - some projects might have a web interface, some might use launchpad, some might use email
[15:16] <Mimi> Me too, fresh install, making sure I keep my /home are the best ^_^ no prob
[15:16] <tech0007> !oops | tunafish
[15:16] <jrib> mysterycool: rosetta on launchpad is what you want
[15:16] <Yodude> hwilde: but i've heard HP is practically the BEST printing provider on linux
[15:17] <rerzerty> i don't knwo how
[15:17] <codemon_> hwilde you really see the MS machine ever being taken down, it is the epitome of capitalism
[15:17] <atlef> `ph8: tried stopping it and bringing it up again?
[15:17] <jens_> I have an issue with 3D-Hardware-acceleration (doesn't work at all) since my update to Hardy, can someone help me please? (xorg.conf is at http://jensg.bplaced.net/xorg.conf, xorg.0.log at http://jensg.bplaced.net/Xorg.0.log)
[15:17] <BenB> hey... are there installer images for USB sticks? I don't have a CD-ROM anymore. I found an help.u.c. article recommending some isotolinux.sh script, but the resulting stick does not work.
[15:18] <BenB> at least not with 8.04
[15:18] <Mimi> Odd-rationale:  It's amazing, right now I'm doing a update, and the update-manager is installing a new version of itself... but wait!, the update-manager is still running O.o It's so crazy ^_^
[15:18] <hwilde> codemon_, competition and change are the epitome of capitalism.  ms is a stagmant monopoly, which will inevitably die.
[15:18] <hwilde> !offtopic | hwilde
[15:18] <Yodude> hwilde: (you got that right!)
[15:18] <bazhang> rerzerty: you wish to do an ad-hoc network right? that is not something to explain from the basics in a channel this busy-->best to do a bit of reading then come back with informed questions and we can help you out in places you get stuck
[15:18] <Odd-rationale> Mimi: Yeah, it is cool.
[15:18] <hwilde> rerzerty, man iwpriv
[15:19] <Ghotler> good day to you
[15:19] <rerzerty> no i just want to make network router
[15:19] <tunafish> Ubuntu 8 is not auto detecting my hd's and i dont have a floppy, and i cant even install ubuntu 8. Now i had NONE of these issues in ubuntu 7
[15:19] <Yodude> hwilde: anyway so which printer do u suggest ?
[15:19] <bebe> anyone know were to find driver for Sapphire ATI Radeon X1650 AGP 8x 512MB on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[15:19] <rerzerty> like router NAT
[15:19] <hwilde> Yodude, I suggest you do some research on Canon and HP and see which company you wnat to invest in
[15:19] <liesen> in hardy, when i change workspace the image that displays the "switch" stays on top. if i change workspace up/down it goes away. any thoughts on this?
[15:20] <atlef> tunafish: have you changed your hw setup at all since 7.10
[15:20] <codemon_> hwilde one of the big hooks for MS is office. So many businesses are bound to it. Integrating with it is a nightmare, this one of the areas I work in most of the time word and Interop is hell
[15:20] <tunafish> nope
[15:20] <tunafish> the hd checks out fine in the bios
[15:20] <Ghotler> whitch plugin have to me, if i want to write a dvd dual layer disk?
[15:20] <Laser88> tunafish: how do you know, that ubuntu 8.04 is not detecting your hds, if you haven't it installed? (as you're not able to install it)
[15:20] <atlef> tunafish: so how far do you get in the installer, and have you tried the alternate cd
[15:21] <tunafish> i get upto auto detecting disk drives. it cant find my hard drive
[15:21] <tunafish> and yes i have tried both 32 and 64bit versions
[15:21] <BenB> codemon_: as business shifts to the Internet, Word gets less significant. Documents are edited collaboratively on wikis, instead of monolithic Word docs.
[15:21] <Laser88> tunafish: but as u said u cannot install ubuntu 8.04...
[15:21] <david_-_-> my usb ports will not work how can i fix this im in hardy gnome.
[15:21] <BenB> codemon_: depends on how progressive the company is. I have seen both forms in the same project in two different teams.
[15:22] <tunafish> yes i cant install it as it cant find my hd
[15:22] <Sake> hey, I installed rdiff-backup and it's version is 1.1.14, all my backup machines use version 1.1.15. Is there a way to upgrade it via apt-get?
[15:22] <david_-_-> compwiz18:  have you found anything else cool to do in the terminal?
[15:22] <sohmestra> I'm attempting to compile epic5 on ubuntu. I've got libncurses5-dev installed, yet ./configure keeps complaining that it cannot find tgetent(), and grepping the ncurses.h header file, it seems that that function is indeed not defined.
[15:22] <rerzerty> ok tell me
[15:22] <rerzerty> what is cell distoro ?
[15:22] <sohmestra> is tgetent() old?
[15:22] <BenB> codemon_: and paper letters are obsolete due to email anyways
[15:22] <tunafish> but ubuntu 7.10 installed fine for me, and i figured i would do a clean install
[15:22] <bebe> anyone know were to find driver for Sapphire ATI Radeon X1650 AGP 8x 512MB on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[15:22] <jrib> tunafish: you tried the alternate cd as someone suggested?
[15:23] <Ghotler> whitch plugin or package have to me, if i want to write a dvd dual layer disk?
[15:23] <rerzerty> bazhang:
[15:23] <rerzerty> ???
[15:23] <m0rk> what if i don't have a "45-libgphoto2.rules" in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ?
[15:23] <tunafish> im downloading the alternate one already
[15:23] <codemon_> BenB there is a long MS Word legacy in the company that I develop for. And they still produce tonnes of hardcopy docs for client etc
[15:23] <rerzerty> what is cell distro ?
[15:23] <m0rk> and i use gthumb.
[15:23] <Chapai> gnome-baker supports DL Ghotler
[15:23] <bazhang> rerzerty: not sure what you are asking is this related to ubuntu?
[15:24] <melter> i have 2 clocks in my gnome panel, does anyone know how to get 1 of them to show the time in another time zone?
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[15:24] <Ghotler> Chapai, Brasero isn't support?
[15:24] <wamty> * hume<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
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[15:24] <wamty> * Arwahabibi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Quit ("Ex-Chat")
[15:24] <FloodBot2> wamty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:24] <Chapai> Ghotler, i tried it, i got the error you are probably getting, gnomebaker works fine
[15:25] <Ghotler> Chapai, ok thanks
[15:25] <bazhang> wamty: please pastebin
[15:25] <codemon_> This ubuntu is a nice distro though from what I've seen so far. I used to use gentoo befroe, but ubuntu is really friendly
[15:25] <tech0007> !paste
[15:26] <m0rk> what if i don't have a "45-libgphoto2.rules" in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ?
[15:27] <mohshami> hey guys, I can ssh to a remote host with putty when I use an http proxy setting, can anybody tell me what the command line option for that is?
[15:27] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu is a warm cuddly teddy bear.. Gentoo is a Rabid Porcupine. :)
[15:27] <mohshami> hey guys, I can ssh to a remote host with putty when I use an http proxy setting, can anybody tell me what the command line option for that is?
[15:27] <rerzerty> this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:27] <david_-_-> compwiz18: hey take a look at this post ehit gives all the commands on what to do in nmap http://paste.ubuntu.com/9213/
[15:27] <novato_br> why doesn't my videocard running Enemy Territoy on ubuntu ==> nvidia Tnt2 ?
[15:27] <rerzerty> under the cell section
[15:27] <bazhang> rerzerty: that is the one
[15:28] <rerzerty> what is for ?
[15:28] <novato_br> !tnt2
[15:28] <bazhang> rerzerty: oh the cell? that is for ps3
[15:28] <visik7> any hope to see a dvd ? nor mplayer nor vlc neither totem-xine are able to reproduce my dvd libdvdcss2 is install as well as libdvdread3
[15:28] <rerzerty> is it possible to replace the windows mobile 5
[15:28] <rerzerty> using this distro ?*
[15:28] <rerzerty> on smart phone ,
[15:28] <Sake> I installed rdiff-backup v1.1.14 using apt-get, but all my backup machines use version 1.1.15 and it gives me compatability errors. How do I upgrade it? Do I have to manually install v 1.1.15 from the webpage?
[15:28] <bazhang> rerzerty: unless you use a ps3 for a cell phone no :)
[15:29] <Ahmed> If I use ubuntu-desktop on my VPS, and multiple users are connected to it via NX client or something. Will they all see different desktops or the same one?
[15:29] <rerzerty> ok
[15:29] <rerzerty> thx bazhang
[15:29] <rerzerty> for my router pc what i have to do ?
[15:29] <zephyr_blore> hi. I have issues with my usb drives. I've pasted the logs at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9214/. Could anyone help please?
[15:29] <reduz> Duude, what happened to gaim? :( where's the scrollbar? why this gay growing of the input area? :(
[15:29] <bazhang> novato_br: have you asked in wine channel?
[15:30] <Ahmed> If I use ubuntu-desktop on my VPS, and multiple users are connected to it via NX client or something. Will they all see different desktops or the same one?
[15:30] <novato_br> Noya, bazhang
[15:30] <novato_br> i'll see
[15:30] <novato_br> but i've another question, bazhang
[15:30] <bazhang> reduz please do not use that as a derogatory term thanks
[15:30] <novato_br> my video card doesn't running ET game
[15:30] <tech0007> zephyr_blore: its not detecting your usb drives, it could be your usb ports or the drives themselves
[15:30] <reduz> bazhang, oh ok sorry about it
[15:30] <lobo235> Ahmed, if they are using different users they should see different desktops
[15:31] <amaafui> hey guys, I am using ubuntu 6.06. does skype work for 6.06 ?
[15:31] <Ahmed> Ok
[15:31] <[nix]> you guys know what file manager is shown in this shot? http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/113/b/f/Sehenn_SShot_by_VisionsofArt.png
[15:31] <bazhang> rerzerty: as I explained you need to do a bit of reading first-->this is pretty complex and not suited to a walkthrough on such a busy channel
[15:31] <ange-dem> slt ya qqun qui parle french??????????
[15:31] <zephyr_blore> tech0007: its the ports, the drives are fine i've tested them on a windows machine
[15:31] <ubutom> hardy is now on my laptop, wooheee;-)
[15:31] <bazhang> !fr | ange-dem
[15:32] <zephyr_blore> tech0007: how do i find out whats wrong with the ports?
[15:32] <reduz> Question: Does anyone know how to turn pidgin (gaim) back to a regular text area for entering messages instead of this strange auto-grow one?
[15:32] <BenB> zephyr_blore: zcat /proc/config.gz|grep USB
[15:32] <tech0007> zephyr_blore: try known good usb devices like printers or flash drives
[15:32] <who_> how do i get to the video configuration window in 8.04
[15:32] <who_> ???
[15:32] <Sake> does it break the file system if I install programs manually? I'm worried about installing software that's not in apt-get
[15:32] <ubutom> who_, xfailsafedialog
[15:32] <novato_br> bazhang, what can I do "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." error message ?
[15:32] <popey> reduz: known bug, you have to go back to version 2.3 for that
[15:33] <who_> thx
[15:33] <jrib> Sake: install to /opt or /usr/local if you have to install manually
[15:33] <monkeyBox> Has anyone been able to get firebug working in FF3?
[15:33] <reduz> popey, ah, will it be fixed in some update?
[15:33] <popey> reduz: sorry, not a bug - a _feature_ introduced by the pidgin devs
[15:33] <danilo_> hi, I'm italian, can you help me for configure one modem hsdpa??
[15:33] <reduz> popey, ahh, no way to disable it?
[15:33] <sarmisak> interesting... i can't change channels by 'cd #ubuntu'
[15:33] <zephyr_blore> BenB: I've pasted the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9215/
[15:34] <Sake> jrib: what if i Have to manually upgrade a program that's already installed by apt-get?
[15:34] <popey> reduz: http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/04/30/1822237.shtml
[15:34] <jrib> sarmisak: /join #ubuntu
[15:34] <melter> i have two clocks in my gnome panel, how can i change one of them to show utc time?
[15:34] <zephyr_blore> tech0007: I'm using a flash drive that worked in windows
[15:34] <jrib> Sake: be sure you have to and install to /usr/local or /opt
[15:34] <sarmisak> jrib: yes yes i know :D just a habit
[15:34] <reduz> popey, whoa, didn't know this change was that important
[15:34] <atlef> monkeyBox: it's not supported yet
[15:34] <popey> reduz: yeah :S
[15:34] <tech0007> zephyr_blore: any other usb devices that works, eg mouse/kboard?
[15:34] <david_-_-> compwiz18:  hey i found this you know what it is?  type in terminal " telnet the-funk.net 7000 "
[15:34] <sarmisak> anyone having problems with ubuntu amd64 flash player?
[15:35] <reduz> popey, how sad, i hope they change this feature back
[15:35] <danilo_> the model of the modem is MT512HS but dosn't work with Hardy...damn...
[15:35] <sarmisak> mine hangs at 00:03 seconds or around
[15:35] <BenB> zephyr_blore: ah, duh, your kernel doesn't want to tell its config. if the flash drive (USB stick) does not work, then you most likely don't have either the USB port drivers or the USB mass storage driver compiled into the kernel
[15:35] <Stereoshaker> Hi @ all, does someone know how to fix the bc43xx freeze problem?
[15:35] <zephyr_blore> tech0007: No usb devices work, they power up and then power down immediately
[15:35] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone know why GFTP wont interact correctly with PROFTPD but the command line FTP client will act correctly?
[15:35] <compwiz18> david_-_-: that's a telnet command; what the server does, I don't know. telnet will probably give you a command prompt on another computer or something
[15:35] <ubutom> david_-_-, your loggin in to a remote host, probably windows server with that
[15:35] <zephyr_blore> BenB: err, newbie here :) what does that mean in english ?
[15:35] <david_-_-> i do uptime in terminal and it sayes 2 users but i am the only user.
[15:35] <sarmisak> tcpdumpgod: gftp might be using passive mode?
[15:35] <BonezAU> rofl
[15:35] <BenB> zephyr_blore: did you compile the kernel yourself?
[15:36] <tcpdumpgod> sarmisak, was checking that now ;) Thanks :D
[15:36] <BenB> zephyr_blore: or where does your Linux kernel come from?
[15:36] <compwiz18> david_-_-: you probably have a terminal open, and x open, yes? that's two users :P
[15:36] <david_-_-> compwiz18:  and ubutom ah ok
[15:36] <zephyr_blore> BenB: nope, used the distribution upgrade feature from fiesty to hardy
[15:36] <BenB> zephyr_blore: try uname -a
[15:36] <david_-_-> compwiz18: yes i have a term open and ah ok
[15:36] <tcpdumpgod> That was it sarmisak, ty.
[15:37] <sarmisak> tcpdumpgod: n.p.
[15:37] <melter> monkeyBox, did you try the beta?
[15:37] <monkeyBox> melter, yeah, I tried 1.1 beta
[15:37] <jean> join #neuros
[15:37] <zephyr_blore> BenB: output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9216/
[15:37] <BenB> zephyr_blore: I guess I know what happened.... you upgraded your root filesystem, but not your kernel. I guess the kernel cannot load the modules.
[15:38] <monkeyBox> melter, I just read a blog saying that a recent update to FF3 beta broke firebug 1.1.. apparently you have to use 1.2 alpha :-p
[15:38] <BenB> everybody: is 2.6.24-16-generic feisty or hardy?
[15:38] <drivetrax> 2,6 - 16 .. gutsy?
[15:38] <reduz> popey, Any recommended gtk-based alternative?
[15:38] <Pici> BenB: Hardy
[15:38] <popey> reduz: i still use pidgin
[15:39] <bazhang> http://awebfactory.com.ar/node/319 monkeyBox read the comments
[15:39] <melter> monkeyBox, http://www.getfirebug.com/releases/
[15:39] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[15:39] <`ph8> does anyone have any idea how I can fix this problem with Hardy not recognising my on board network card properly? I assume this is what it is - the card appears but it can't connect to anything, i have a laptop using the same router (wired) and as i say, it still works if i boot to the old kernel - what info do i need to provide/look for?
[15:39] <tech0007> zephyr_blore: you should have usbcore as minimum
[15:39] <BenB> drivetrax. Pici : can you help zephyr_blore ? it seems his kernel cannot load its corresponding modules after an feisty->hardy upgrade. I am a newbie to ubuntu myslef.
[15:39] <Otacon22> with wich program can i use my modem as a telephone?
[15:39] <zephyr_blore>  BenB: Thanks for helping out !
[15:39] <Pici> zephyr_blore: Did you upgrade to Gutsy before upgrading to Hardy?
[15:40] <ubutom> Otacon22, you mean VoIP?
[15:40] <zephyr_blore> Pici: Yes i did
[15:40] <Otacon22> no
[15:40] <Otacon22> use a modem as telephone
[15:40] <Otacon22> use telephone line
[15:40] <bazhang> what is firebug btw
[15:40] <sarmisak> Otacon22: that's not logical, try connecting a phone maybe?
[15:40] <eth01> wtf
[15:40] <mysterycool> ive installed Greek on my ubuntu to type but how can I type in Greek instead of English?
[15:40] <Otacon22> ghghgh
[15:40] <BenB> bazhang: a JS7website debugging tool for firefox.
[15:40] <eth01> !ops
[15:40] <sarmisak> bazhang: go to addons.mozilla.com, install it from there
[15:40] <Mimi> Sorry to ask again... I've been looking for days now... I'm looking for a program that records sound that is playing on my computer. Say, I'm playing a video game and chatting on Ventrilo and I want to record both (no video, just sound). How do I do that? Thanks
[15:41] <Otacon22> on windows it is possibile
[15:41] <bazhang> eth01: what is up
[15:41] <gnomefreak> eth01: ?
[15:41] <eth01> ...
[15:41] <stdin> eth01: staff are already dealing with it
[15:41] <eth01> thanks Pici :)
[15:41] <jtbandes_> I'm installing 8.04 on a Mac. Everything works for the most part, but my wireless card doesn't. It's an Airport Extreme card with the firmware "Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (<IP_ADDRESS>)". I saw something that looked promising on the alternate CD (I think it was b43-fwcutter), but it needs internet access to download something... so how can I get this working without internet access?
[15:41] <BenB> zephyr_blore: try the following for confirming my theory: lsmod
[15:41] <ubutom> Mimi, have you tried Audio-Recorder?
[15:41] <sarmisak> jtbandes_: broadcom drivers have a problem
[15:41] <eth01> stdin: not to my recollection.
[15:41] <Otacon22> there are some software that make you able to use the modem by audio card, as telephon and compose numbers on phone line and call them
[15:41] <sarmisak> jtbandes_: you might not be able to install them properly
[15:42] <jtbandes_> sarmisak: ok, so what should I do?
[15:42] <stdin> eth01: well we were already +rR and there's a k-line train ;)
[15:42] <Otacon22> on linux there is for example vgetty that make you able to create an auto-response system
[15:42] <BenB> zephyr_blore: if it shows no modules, that's your problem. you don't have stuff in /lib/modules/ that you need
[15:42] <Otacon22> but i don't understand how it works
[15:42] <sarmisak> i would recommend installing a usb or use an access point as a bridge if possible
[15:42] <Otacon22> i'm a programmer, so i can do something
[15:42] <Pici> stdin: the bots set -Rr, I reapplied it
[15:42] <Otacon22> but if i don't know how...
[15:42] <eth01> stdin: +Rr has only just been set.
[15:42] <eth01> nod.
[15:42] <stdin> eth01, Pici: hmm, so they did
[15:43] <sarmisak> Otacon22: reading the vgetty manual and googling might help
[15:43] <sarmisak> Otacon22: or your solution might be the mighty asterisk
[15:43] <Otacon22> sarmisak, already done
[15:43] <bazhang> thanks sarmisak not for just curious :)
[15:44] <Otacon22> sarmisak, http://alpha.greenie.net/vgetty/
[15:44] <jtbandes_> So what drivers can I use if not Broadcom?
[15:44] <zephyr_blore> BenB: how do I know if the usb modules were loaded? what are the names?
[15:44] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[15:44] <navetz> can someone help me, my network manager is not detecting any devices
[15:44] <napsy_> Is there a graphical tool for creating DEB packages?
[15:45] <navetz> but but it does detect them at home
[15:45] <Sake> I'm running ubuntu 7.10 server and the rdiff-backup package in apt-get is 1.1.14, Ubuntu 8.04 has rdiff-backup 1.1.15 in apt-get, is there a way to upgrade my version of the package to the hardy one or should I just reinstall the package from the source?
[15:45] <drivetrax> Linus Torvalds has released version 2.6.25 of the Linux kernel.
[15:45] <`box`> any success with installing 8.04 inside of windows vista ?
[15:46] <david_-_-> i did alt-f2 thn typed free the fish and now he wont go away
[15:46] <teddy> hello
[15:46] <sarmisak> jtbandes_: i don't have any clear idea about it, if you are experienced you might try to install some experimental drivers
[15:47] <sarmisak> jtbandes_: in my sisters notebook i just added a usb wireless unit
[15:47] <sarmisak> jtbandes_: it worked fine
[15:47] <Pici> david_-_-: killall gnome-panel
[15:47] <denis_kv> тест
[15:47] <reduz> QUESTION: My numpad stops working in ubuntu out of nothing
[15:48] <babolat> whew... that was one tough screen, NickServ
[15:48] <reduz> QUESTION (updated): My numpad stops working in ubuntu out of nothing, and starts controlling the mouse.. why?
[15:48] <zephyr_blore> Pici: how can i get my usb devices to work?
[15:48] <david_-_-> Pici:  what all will that close?
[15:48] <zephyr_blore> Pici: Sorry if im bothering you, just wanted to know if there is an issue with the feisty>gutsy>hardy upgrade path
[15:49] <Pici> david_-_-: That will kill wanda the fish, remove the panel which should automagically restart
[15:49] <GuyFromHell> How can i grep from a time output?
[15:49] <Pici> zephyr_blore: No, that is the recommended upgrade path, I just wanted to make sure that you did that.
[15:49] <david_-_-> Pici: ah ok thank you
[15:49] <bebe> can help me to install video card pleaseeee
[15:49] <micky> hi, any ideas of an application which can undo a mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1 ? the partition was and still is ext3
[15:50] <babolat> What does it mean when one gets "Failed to fetch http://foo.foo1.com/ubuntu...ubuntu/Release Unable to find expected entry"
[15:50] <sarmisak> reduz: try shift + num lock
[15:50] <zephyr_blore> Pici: Hmmn .. thanks. how would i know if the usb drivers are loaded in the kernel? what do i grep the lsmod output for?
[15:50] <atlef> bebe: have you tried hardware drivers from the menu?
[15:50] <sarmisak> reduz: i had the same problem, that gets rid of it.
[15:50] <Pici> zephyr_blore: probably just for usb (or usbcore)
[15:50] <reduz> sarmisak, ah thanks a lot
[15:50] <bebe> yes but after i give restart my screen stay block with black screen
[15:51] <zephyr_blore> Pici: Did that, it shows usbcore 146028  3 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[15:51] <mysterycool> how can i type in another language?
[15:51] <snowblink> what version of ruby ships with 8.04?
[15:51] <babolat> !language | mysterycool
[15:51] <KeithWeisshar> is the 64-bit version faster than the 32-bit version
[15:51] <mysterycool> o_O
[15:51] <mysterycool> erm,
[15:52] <fatal_> Hi. Does anyone know how to make Firefox 3.beta *not* jump to current workspace when you open an url?
[15:52] <mysterycool> thats not exactly what i need XD
[15:52] <atlef> !video card | bebe:
[15:52] <bazhang> mysterycool: scim
[15:52] <atlef> !nvidia | bebe:
[15:52] <mysterycool> baxhang: excuse me?
[15:52] <ikonia> fatal_: it always opens in the current workspace
[15:52] <zephyr_blore> Pici: Anything else that i can check for to fix the problem ?
[15:53] <bazhang> mysterycool: that is the package you need
[15:53] <KeithWeisshar> is ubuntu amd64 faster than i386
[15:53] <babolat> mysterycool: smart common input method... www.scim-im.org
[15:53] <atlef> KeithWeisshar: i found it to be faster
[15:53] <fatal_> ikonia: I'd prefer the browser to stay on the workspace it's already running on... no way to do that?
[15:53] <bazhang> KeithWeisshar: this is a support channel--> for chat please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <Schypher_> hello
[15:53] <ikonia> fatal_: I think you can do that with x args on launch but you'd have to tie that into the launch icon
[15:53] <tech0007> fyi...ubuntu openweek's next episode will be "ask Mark"
[15:54] <Mimi> Hi, for reccording sound that goes to my speakers, do I use PCM  or Capture Mux ?
[15:54] <ikonia> tech0007: we know
[15:54] <CapnRedbeard> Bebe: Have you tried running displayconfig-gtk as sudo ?
[15:54] <Pici> zephyr_blore: Check dmesg after you plug in your device(s)
[15:54] <bazhang> tech0007: starting soon? thanks
[15:54] <navetz> can someone help me, I can't get my network manager to detect a connection
[15:54] <zephyr_blore> Pici: dmesg shows zilch. No reaction at all ..
[15:54] <tech0007> bazhang: yup seems there was some change in sched
[15:54] <Pici> zephyr_blore: :?
[15:54] <Pici> er, :?
[15:54] <sarmisak> KeithWeisshar: in most applications it is
[15:55] <Pici> bah, I can't type today
[15:55] <navetz> my network manager however does detect a connection from eth when I am at home.
[15:55] <bazhang> tech0007: is that ubuntu-classroom or just the podcast/broadcast
[15:55] <ikonia> navetz: is this a wirless connection ?
[15:55] <babolat> is there a way around the "loading files needed to boot" part? the one you get when booting into Ubuntu after booting into windows?
[15:55] <zephyr_blore> Pici: there is nothing new in dmesg related to the usb. Just the old lines from boot-up
[15:55] <navetz> ikonia: no ethernet
[15:55] <tech0007> bazhang: in the #ubuntu-classroom
[15:55] <ikonia> navetz: so it can't detect anything when your plugged in at home
[15:55] <bazhang> tech0007: thanks very much :)
[15:56] <Pici> zephyr_blore: Thats rather odd
[15:56] <spattz> KeithWeisshar: Atheros ar5007 wireless is better supported with 32 bit driver from madwifi. Maybe true of other hardware?
[15:56] <ikonia> navetz: if you tail -f /var/log/messages do you see "eth1 up/down" messages when you plug the cable in and out
[15:56] <navetz> ikonia: when I am at home it detects, but right now it wont work
[15:56] <bmw> sd
[15:56] <zephyr_blore> Pici: let me do it again and i shall place the output in the paste-bin
[15:57] <navetz> ikonia: yea it says link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex
[15:57] <bmw> народ посоветуйте плиз хороший плеер типа винапма =)
[15:57] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, disconnect and reconnect it then run dmesg again
[15:57] <fatal_> ikonia: I can't find any arguments that seems related, could you please give me some more details?
[15:58] <ethan96I> !ru | bmw
[15:58] <mysterycool> babolat: i have scim from synaptic. now what?
[15:58] <zephyr_blore> Pici: output of dmesg at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9221/
[15:58] <atlef> !ru | bmw:
[15:58] <ikonia> fatal_: its the x and y co-ordinates argument, I'm not sure if they are available on firefox, but should be
[15:58] <navetz> ikonia: then it says link down when its I unplug
[15:58] <ikonia> navetz: thats a good sign
[15:58] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: Thats what i did, i've placed the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9221/
[15:58] <PrivateVoid> Russian... damn...
[15:58] <ikonia> navetz: is your network dhcp or static ?
[15:58] <mikefoo1> So my remote mailserver cant seem to resolve a specific .com.cn domain, but I used my home isp to resolve it fine. Anyone know off hand why this could be?  I can dig using opendns server and it resolves.. but mine doesn't
[15:58] <PrivateVoid> ubottu - sorry I am not read that... that is russian right?
[15:58] <navetz> ikonia: I am trying to set a static ip address
[15:59] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, please disconnect and reconnect the usb, then type in just "dmesg"  and pastebin the entire output. thank you
[15:59] <mysterycool> how can i type other languages?
[15:59] <ikonia> mikefoo1: contact the admin of your mail server domain
[15:59] <ikonia> navetz: is the network static or dhcp though
[15:59] <mikefoo1> ikonia: I am the admin
[15:59] <hwilde> mysterycool, go up in the menu   System- >  Admin -> Language Support
[15:59] <x1250> :D
[15:59] <x1250> lol
[15:59] <ethan96I> PrivateVoid: ubotu is a bot :P
[15:59] <navetz> ikonia: I am not sure, is there a way I can find out.
[15:59] <ikonia> mikefoo1: what dns servers is the mailhost using ?
[15:59] <atlef> !scim | mysterycool:
[15:59] <ikonia> navetz: contact you network admin
[15:59] <mikefoo1> ikonia: its own.
[15:59] <ikonia> navetz: it's probably dhcp, most environments are
[15:59] <dwhsi1> so how do I get gnome terminal to start with a different window size?
[15:59] <ikonia> mikefoo1: ok, so manually can you nslookup or dig the domain ?
[15:59] <navetz> ikonia: I am pretty sure it is static, this is a business environment.
[16:00] <ikonia> navetz: most businesses are dhcp - you'll need to check. If it is static ask for a valid ip/subnet thats free from your IP hostmaster
[16:01] <navetz> ikonia: Is a subnet the same as a gateway?
[16:01] <bebe> i set active my graphic card from restricted drivers and after reboot screen stay black :(
[16:01] <babolat> sorry, forgot to leave an away msg..  check this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[16:01] <ikonia> navetz: no
[16:01] <sarmisak> navetz: no it's a group of ips which distincts networks from each other
[16:01] <babolat> mysterycool: sorry, forgot to leave an away msg..  check this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[16:01] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: dmesg output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9223/
[16:02] <Sake> I'm running ubuntu 7.10 server and the rdiff-backup package in apt-get is 1.1.14, Ubuntu 8.04 has rdiff-backup 1.1.15 in apt-get, is there a way to upgrade my version of the package to the hardy one or should I just reinstall the package from the source?
[16:02] <duude> Ubuntu is grreat, at least compared to the preinstalled Windows vista which is in different language
[16:02] <sarmisak> is anyone having problems with sarg on amd64?
[16:02] <CapnRedbeard> bebe: i had same prob. yesterday with on-board vid. driver here, re-started in recover mode and ok.
[16:03] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, it did not register a usb disconnect and reconnect at the bottom of dmesg.
[16:03] <ikonia> Sake: don't mix and match packages / ditros
[16:03] <sarmisak> it's always reports 'stack smashing' and abors
[16:03] <drivetrax> wow, ATI has a driver for Hardy!  mebe it will work for me
[16:03] <ikonia> Sake: as in sarge debian, or sarge the application
[16:03] <adriaan> this is slightly off-topic, but is anyone else having trouble with pidgin atm?
[16:03] <hwilde> !ati | drivetrax
[16:03] <navetz> ikonia: sarmisak: I am looking at my network manager and I don't see a subnet option: my options are ip, netmask, broadcast, gateway
[16:03] <Bodsda_coding> what was the kernel used in hardy beta 5? is it still available?
[16:03] <ikonia> sarmisak: ahh what version of ubuntu are you using on
[16:03] <navetz> ikonia: sarmisak: are one of those the subnet, or am I way off?
[16:03] <hwilde> !downgrade | Bodsda_coding
[16:03] <ikonia> navetz: no, I mean from the physical human who manages your network
[16:03] <sarmisak> ikonia: gutsy
[16:03] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: I know, it's not detecting the device at all. is there anything more that i can check for?
[16:03] <In-Sane> hi, am using Ubuntu 8.04, I am using HUAWEI FWT modem but not able to set it up, any suggestions please?
[16:03] <sarmisak> navetz: netmask
[16:03] <ikonia> sarmisak: desktop/server ?
[16:03] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, what kind of device is it
[16:03] <sarmisak> ikonia: server
[16:03] <Bodsda_coding> hwilde, not downgrading just downgrading the kernel and that wont break my system
[16:04] <x1250> Sake: $ apt-cache policy rdiff-backup, read the repository, and an equal hardy repository in /etc/apt/sources.list. Then $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -t hardy install rdiff-backup
[16:04] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: its a sandisk cruzer flash drive
[16:04] <navetz> ikonia: sarmisak: ah ok, i have the netmask.
[16:04] <x1250> that should install hardy version
[16:04] <sarmisak> ikonia: i can upgrade to hardy at no cost and minimum time
[16:04] <ikonia> sarmisak: ok, the ubuntu server kernel has SSP built into the kernel, I've seen that complaint before
[16:04] <x1250> fix: and add an equal hardy repository...
[16:04] <sarmisak> hmms then sarg people should solve it
[16:04] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, does it light up?  can you plug it into a different usb port?  do other usb devices light up in that port?   does it work on different computer?
[16:04] <ikonia> navetz: do you have a valid ip address on the right network with the right netmask, ask your network IP manager
[16:05] <sarmisak> navetz: you should ask your network administrator
[16:05] <navetz> ikonia: sarmisak: I have the netmask, a static ip address, and a gateway from the network namager here
[16:05] <sarmisak> navetz: as an admin I lock the mac addresses against ip's
[16:05] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: it lights up for a moment then the lights go off. I have two usb ports, both work (do not work :) )exactly the same. It works on a windows computer
[16:05] <ikonia> navetz: I suggest you get your network administrator to look over your shoulder when entering it, as if the card is seen the only thing stopping it would be an address from the wrong subnet
[16:05] <sarmisak> navetz: ok try this
[16:06] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, do you have any other usb devices to plug in to verify the usb ports work
[16:06] <reduz> Question: I'm having TCP connections stall after upgrading to hardy, windows works fine behind the router, ubuntu doesn't
[16:06] <sarmisak> navetz: type your static ip to your ip, set netmask <IP_ADDRESS>, and gateway to your gateway
[16:06] <navetz> sarmisak: i have done that
[16:06] <sarmisak> if you can ping your gateway everything should work smoothly
[16:06] <babolat> another member of the forum asked me this --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9226/ I'd like to help him, but don't know what to tell him.. Does someone know how to fix it?
[16:06] <hwilde> navetz, kill the network manager process, then ifconfig it and /sbin/route the gateway.
[16:07] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: I tried my external hard disk, my creative media player and both work on my work laptop (windows) and do not work at home (hardy)]
[16:07] <navetz> hwilde: how do I do that?
[16:07] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, does the physical usb port on your linux machine work
[16:07] <co_cr_WARIA_baek> hi all
[16:07] <NetTroller> hello ..anyone tell me where I can get forum help? I can't post..and I've searched to see why..but its difficult navigating the forums
[16:07] <co_cr_WARIA_baek> hi semua
[16:07] <hwilde> navetz, killall NetworkManager  NetworkManagerDispather
[16:07] <hwilde> navetz, ifconfig eth0 [ip here] netmask [netmaskhere]
[16:07] <ikonia> NetTroller: can't post where ?
[16:07] <hwilde> navetz, /sbin/route add default gw [gatewayhere] eth0
[16:07] <NetTroller> ikonia forums
[16:08] <hwilde> navetz, replace eth0 with your interface name of course, and use sudo
[16:08] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: How do i check that out? and could it be a problem with permissions of the usb devices at /dev/bus/usb/00*/* ?
[16:08] <kenci> hi all
[16:08] <ikonia> NetTroller: join #ubuntuforums or send a pm to one of the forum admins
[16:08] <jwilson> Hello everyone. Im having an USB audio problem. Can someone assist me?
[16:08] <kenci> can someone help me a bit
[16:08] <NetTroller> ubuntoforums.org
[16:08] <kenci> i have a problem
[16:08] <kenci>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:08] <melter> i have two clock applets in my gnome panel, how can i change one of them to show utc time?
[16:08] <kenci> how do i fix that
[16:08] <hwilde> NetTroller, you have to register first
[16:08] <ikonia> kenci: run dpkg --configure -a
[16:08] <sarmisak> kenci: just do what it says?
[16:08] <ikonia> kenci: it gives you the fix in english
[16:08] <babolat> !sound | jwilson
[16:08] <Pici> kenci: run sudo dpkg --configure -a in a terminal
[16:08] <kenci> tnx
[16:08] <NetTroller> thanks kindly ikonia
[16:08] <BenB> is it possible that the installer kernel of the 8.04 install has no vfat filesystem compiled in?
[16:08] <ikonia> BenB: its modular
[16:08] <ikonia> BenB: it's not compiled in
[16:08] <kuma> hi, i'm trying to config an ad-hoc connection
[16:09] <sarmisak> bye all
[16:09] <navetz> ikonia: sarmisak: it is pinging my gateway correctly
[16:09] <kuma> can someone help me?
[16:09] <BenB> it sees my USB stick on dmesg, but mount fails with "invalid argument"§
[16:09] <NetTroller> hwilde yep..am registered..wanted to post in absolute beginners..but didn't allow me to
[16:09] <hwilde> kuma, man iwpriv
[16:09] <navetz> hwilde: let me give that a shot
[16:09] <hwilde> NetTroller, what did it say, error message?
[16:09] <BenB> ikonia: does it have auto-loading of modules?
[16:09] <ikonia> BenB: yes
[16:09] <BenB> ikonia: why would mount then say "invalid argument"?
[16:09] <ce_luvy>  my self
[16:09] <kuma> hwilde: iwpriv? i tried the command $sudo iwconfig wlan essid XXX with no success
[16:09] <BenB> ikonia: sda1 is shown on dmesg
[16:10] <ikonia> BenB: maybe it's passing an invalid argument, the most common cause would be a "tricky" label on the disk
[16:10] <ikonia> BenB: what is the volume label on the usb drive ?
[16:10] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: is there anything that i can check for the physical usb drive to work?
[16:10] <hwilde> BenB, can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"  "sudo df -ha"  and then the mount command you are trying to run
[16:10] <tanath> i keep getting a triangular alert in the status area saying my package information is out of date, even though it isn't
[16:10] <NetTroller> hwilde said I could be trying to edit somebodies post..or "# If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation." ... but I am logged in
[16:10] <ikonia> hwilde: it's hal automounting
[16:10] <BenB> ikonia: no label (shown by cfdisk)
[16:10] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, plug the usb drive into another computer ;;  plus another usb device in the port
[16:10] <atlef> !minimal
[16:11] <ikonia> NetTroller: join #ubuntuforums or pm and administrator, this is the OS support channel
[16:11] <hwilde> NetTroller, clear your cache, close your browser, and then try again
[16:11] <quarph> hoho
[16:11] <tanath> even after updating several times it still comes back
[16:11] <NetTroller> okay ikonia ..thanks again..will do
[16:11] <ikonia> BenB: for arguments sake try this "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[16:11] <NetTroller> thanks hwilde ..will try that as well
[16:11] <BenB> ikonia: did that, same result
[16:11] <babolat> tanath: is your time set correctly?
[16:11] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: I'm sorry, i did not understand that. I need to remove the usb port and attach it to another computer?
[16:11] <ikonia> BenB: can you paste you putting in the command and the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com please.
[16:11] <tanath> babolat, yep. using ntp servers, so...
[16:12] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, divide and conquer man!  does the usb drive work in another computer?  does another usb device work on your computer?
[16:12] <babolat> tanath: what server are u using for the repos?
[16:12] <hwilde> kuma,  sudo /sbin/iwconfig ath0 mode ad-hoc
[16:12] <KeithWeisshar> why is wubi not included on the ubuntu dvd?
[16:12] <ikonia> KeithWeisshar: because it's not a livecd
[16:12] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: well, no usb device seems to work on my ubuntu machine, and they all work on my windows machine. :(
[16:12] <mysterycool> i am trying to type greek but i cant get it to work. i have scim and selected greek from the language settings thingy but it still wont work :( help plz =[
[16:12] <tanath> babolat, well, i had a fast mirror selected, but i tried switching back to the default official mirror, and it still does it
[16:12] <ikonia> KeithWeisshar: but maybe thats a question you should post to the packages
[16:12] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, I think the usb port are dead on your machine.
[16:13] <hwilde> BenB, can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"  "sudo df -ha"  and then the mount command you are trying to run
[16:13] <babolat> tanath: try the Best Server function
[16:13] <KeithWeisshar> only the cd version has wubi
[16:13] <BenB> ikonia: no, that's on another machine where I have no net access - it's in the installer, remember? but it's really just mkdir source/; mount /dev/sda1 /source/ "Invalid argument"
[16:13] <hydrogen> hwilde: no need to use sudo with df
[16:13] <navetz> hwilde: when I try those things I keep getting unknown host
[16:13] <tanath> babolat, that's what i used
[16:13] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: Which means that i cannot get them to work again ?
[16:13] <ikonia> BenB: this is in the installed ?
[16:13] <ikonia> BenB: installer sorry ?
[16:13] <hwilde> zephyr_blore, do you have all the updates?
[16:13] <ikonia> BenB: I thought this was on an installed machine
[16:13] <kenci> when i run dpkg --configure -a.. some mysql installation starts
[16:13] <kenci> why is that
[16:14] <BenB> ikonia: yes, said so in the beginning
[16:14] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: just updated 3 hours ago.
[16:14] <ikonia> kenci: your installing mysql-server
[16:14] <ikonia> BenB: I misesd that
[16:14] <ikonia> BenB: why do you want to mount your usb stick in the installer ?
[16:14] <BenB> ikonia: 8.04 installer.... I am trying to install from a USB stick
[16:14] <kenci> do i need to
[16:14] <hwilde> kenci, I broke one of my machines like that... :(   I never fixed it.  anytime I did apt-get it also got stuck into mysql-server
[16:14] <BenB> ikonia: no CD-ROM anymore
[16:14] <ikonia> BenB: install from a usb stick, what have you done, just dumped the iso on the usb ?
[16:14] <BenB> hwilde: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/1003967
[16:14] <bobbo> kenci: have you tried running sudo apt-get remove mysql-server ?
[16:14] <BenB> (hey pastebin-ca is over 1 million! :) )
[16:14] <kenci> weird
[16:15] <kenci> no
[16:15] <kenci> will try that now
[16:15] <navetz> hwilde: should I restart my computer to see if these settings worked?
[16:15] <ikonia> BenB: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[16:15] <ikonia> BenB: sorry, I thought you said it was /dev/sda
[16:15] <hwilde> navetz, run ifconfig and see if your IP and Netmask are correct
[16:15] <tanath> babolat, using rafal.ca mirror at the moment
[16:15] <Fritzel> is there an easy way to install all -dev packages for everythign I have on the system?
[16:15] <BenB> ikonia: again, different machines. sdb here, sda on machine where installer runs
[16:15] <hwilde> BenB, ikonia,   try sudo mkdir /test      sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /test
[16:15] <ikonia> Fritzel: not really
[16:16] <navetz> hwilde: is my destination suppose to be my ip?
[16:16] <BenB> hwilde: I did that, same result
[16:16] <Fritzel> ikonia, -nod- figured as much thanks though
[16:16] <johnny_> hello everyone
[16:16] <ikonia> BenB: "sudo modprobe vfat"
[16:16] <ikonia> Fritzel: sorry
[16:16] <hwilde> BenB, if you can get through the install we can tell you how to mount it afterwards :)
[16:16] <kenci> bobbo.. cant do that
[16:16] <hwilde> navetz, it should say inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>   or whatever your ip is
[16:16] <kenci> keeps telling me that i need to sonfigure
[16:16] <BenB> hwilde: funny :)
[16:16] <ikonia> kenci: configure mysql then
[16:16] <bobbo> kenci: pastebin the error message?
[16:16] <johnny_> can someone help me?
[16:16] <kenci> i've tried to install steamm
[16:16] <hwilde> navetz, then it should say Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>  or your netmask
[16:16] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: would it help if i booted of the live cd and check if the drive works?
[16:17] <kenci> kenci@kenci-x:~$ sudo apt-get remove mysql-server
[16:17] <kenci> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:17] <hwilde> ikonia, I had that same bug.  I never fixed it.  it's stuck in a mysql-server install no matter what
[16:17] <BenB> ikonia: what's the best way to install via USB stick? tried 2 ways already:
[16:17] <babolat> tanath: that's an odd problem... have u tried any other server that's near the one you have right now?
[16:17] <ikonia> hwilde: just get him to configure it then
[16:17] <hwilde> !usb | BenB
[16:17] <Pici> kenci: How did you try to install Steam?
[16:17] <kenci> ikonia.. i dont need a mysql server :)
[16:17] <spattz> Hi all. No joy for me with ar5007 wifi, Hardy 64 bit, and included atheros drivers, or madwifi. I want to try ndiswrapper, but - which windows driver? XP, vista? or has anyone had success with that hardware?
[16:17] <hwilde> ikonia,  no matter what I could never get past it.  I haven't been able to apt or dpkg anything on that machine since.
[16:17] <BenB> isotostick.sh script mentioned on some help.u.c page, and boot.img.gz plus the .iso plus syslinux
[16:17] <kenci> sudo apt-get install steam
[16:17] <ikonia> kenci: so configure it as you've done a mass update, then remove it later
[16:17] <cosminb> is there a way to downgrade a package using Synaptic?
[16:17] <tanath> babolat, yeah, tried that too. that didn't work either, which is why i tried the official ones. also thought maybe the mirrors fell behind due to the official servers being overloaded
[16:18] <hwilde> !ndiswrapper | spattz
[16:18] <hwilde> !downgrade | cosminb
[16:18] <Pici> kenci: Are you trying to install Valve Software's Steam?
[16:18] <kenci> yes pici
[16:18] <ikonia> !away > chmac_away
[16:18] <navetz> hwilde: ah ok, well I see my ip under inet and my mask under Mask, but it also says Bcast which I am guessing is suppose to be my gateway, and that has the first 3 parts of the IP correct but the last part is .255
[16:18] <babolat> tanath: that's unlikely.. its been what, more than a week since the release..
[16:18] <chmac_away> ikonia: Quoi?
[16:18] <BenB> hwilde: that's what I've been using at first. it fails miserably.
[16:18] <ikonia> chmac_away: see the message from ubottu
[16:18] <cosminb> hwilde: just one package... it seems it broke bluetooth support for my phone, bluez-utils 3.26
[16:18] <Pici> kenci: the Steam package is not that, its for "an Environment for cooperative knowledge management"
[16:18] <Flynsarmy> Hi. I'm trying to recode a windows .reg file but when i do it returns: "failed: Untranslatable input in step `ISO-10646-UCS-2..ANSI_X3.4-1968'"
[16:18] <navetz> hwilde: I meant to say the first 3 parts of my gateway correct***
[16:18] <cosminb> hwilde: I want to switch to a previous version of bluez-utils
[16:18] <kenci> pici
[16:18] <BenB> now I use https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[16:19] <tanath> babolat, a week. but they're still slow
[16:19] <kenci> i have a problem now.. i cant install my soundcard driver cuz of this
[16:19] <Pici> kenci: apt-cache show steam
[16:19] <BenB> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick does *not* work at all
[16:19] <ikonia> !away > Bodsda_afk
[16:19] <babolat> tanath: are u *sure* that ur time is set correctly? coz right now I still can't think of any other cause.. still looking into it though
[16:19] <hwilde> navetz, ignore bcast.  type sudo /sbin/route   does it say default and have your gateway ?
[16:19] <kane77> navetz, no Bcast is broadcast which is the last ip address in subnet so if your netmask is <IP_ADDRESS> your bcast should end in 255
[16:20] <Pici> kenci: Then remove the steam package, also follow any directions that apt tells you to repair the install
[16:20] <babolat> tanath: what other debs have u added to the repo list?
[16:20] <chmac_away> Any idea who maintains ubottu?
[16:20] <tanath> babolat, my computer time is the same as my kinetic watch and my cell phone
[16:20] <ikonia> chmac_away: the ubuntu irc operators
[16:20] <bazhang> Ubuntu founder now in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:20] <zephyr_blore> hwilde: thanks for your help, i think i need to do some more research :|
[16:20] <BenB> ikonia: can I just copy dump the iso file on the USB drive, ala cat ubunntu.iso > /dev/sba1 ?
[16:20] <zephyr_blore> BenB: thanks !
[16:20] <chmac_away> ikonia: Do you know how to pass on feedback?
[16:20] <zephyr_blore> Pici: Thanks !
[16:20] <BenB> zephyr_blore: good luck
[16:20] <ikonia> BenB: that won't "boot it" but you can mount it loop back as a mobile reop
[16:21] <cosminb> so... is there a way to downgrade a package, using synaptic or apt-get?
[16:21] <babolat> tanath: what other debs have u added to the repo list?
[16:21] <ikonia> chmac_away: contact the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[16:21] <hwilde> !downgrade | cosminb
[16:21] <jwilson> regarding to the alasamixer. I'm using usb headphone for audio. I can hear instant message sounds but nothing flashbased
[16:21] <harveyd> every time I play music in firefox, rythmbox stops working
[16:21] <BenB> ikonia: ok, that doesn't help, then. I guess syslinux won't work on it either, given that it's no FAT?
[16:21] <navetz> hwilde: kane77:  yes it says default and it has my gateway. (not sure if thes means anything but genmask is <IP_ADDRESS>, Flags is UG, Metric is 100, Ref is 0, Use is 0 and Iface is eth0
[16:21] <harveyd> until I reboot
[16:21] <ikonia> BenB: spot on
[16:21] <hwilde> navetz, that's fine
[16:21] <hwilde> navetz, can you ping the gateway now
[16:21] <MatBoy> does someone know a good way to do a chkdsk using linux on a NTFS partition ?
[16:21] <navetz> hwilde: yea
[16:21] <harveyd> is there an easy way to just 'restart' sound
[16:21] <Qnuffy> hiho
[16:21] <harveyd> without a full reboot
[16:22] <navetz> hwilde: its pinging
[16:22] <hwilde> navetz, ok then you are online!
[16:22] <x1250> harveyd: $ kill -9 sound_server_here
[16:22] <babolat> tanath: could u pastebin your $sudo apt-get update results?
[16:22] <navetz> hwilde: haha awesome!
[16:22] <hwilde> navetz, can you please pastebin the output of "ifconfig"   "/sbin/route"  and "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[16:22] <x1250> with sudo
[16:22] <thefish> hwilde, navetz - may need to update resolv.conf as well for dns ;)
[16:22] <hwilde> thefish, i'm going to have him hook up is interfaces file now that he has the right settings :)
[16:23] <tanath> babolat, working on it
[16:23] <tanath> babolat, http://pastebin.ca/1003974
[16:23] <babolat> tanath: ok :)
[16:23] <harveyd> how can I find the current sound server?
[16:23] <tanath> babolat, that's from my sources list
[16:23] <thefish> hwilde, is it possible with networkmanager to have "failover" configs for when dhcpclient times out?
[16:23] <kuma> hwilde i tried mounting the ad-hoc like you told me, can you look the nopaste please http://rafb.net/p/OVNIT581.html
[16:23] <x1250> harveyd: $ ps -A, or something like that
[16:24] <thefish> i usually just add an alias when i need a static address
[16:24] <Qnuffy> how i can change the resolution within the login manager?
[16:24] <tanath> babolat, http://pastebin.ca/1003975
[16:24] <x1250> harveyd: you can use the system monitor...
[16:24] <harveyd> ps -A lists quite a lot though :P
[16:24] <hwilde> thefish, on one of my machines I hacked the dhclient to not clear out the old settings on failure.  that works pretty nice
[16:24] <x1250> harveyd: yep
[16:24] <harveyd> none of them are obviously related to sound
[16:24] <hwilde> harveyd, lsmod | grep snd
[16:25] <babolat> tanath: looking
[16:25] <thefish> hwilde, nice plan, is that in options or actual source hacking?
[16:25] <x1250> harveyd: pulseaudio, esd, alsa, etc
[16:25] <hwilde> kuma, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:25] <hwilde> thefish, src hack :/
[16:25] <Qnuffy> Is there anyone who can help me?
[16:25] <hwilde> !help | Qnuffy
[16:26] <hwilde> umm that is not the rigth help
[16:26] <navetz> hwilde: here is the pastebin : http://pastebin.com/m726ffed
[16:26] <atlef> !ask | Qnuffy:
[16:26] <harveyd> ok, cheers
[16:26] <navetz> hwilde: do you think my network manager will work when I restart?
[16:26] <thefish> hwilde, ill stick to eth0:1 then ;)
[16:26] <Qnuffy> I want to know how i can change the resolution of the login screen o:
[16:26] <babolat> tanath: when did u start getting this problem?
[16:26] <kuma> hwilde: i got "no scan results"
[16:27] <tanath> babolat, a few days after upgrading to hardy
[16:27] <hwilde> !fixres | Qnuffy
[16:27] <atlef> Qnuffy: is it not the same as your desktop?
[16:27] <tanath> babolat, the day after release i believe
[16:27] <hwilde> kuma, ifconfig wlan0 down;  ifconfig wlan0 up;  iwpriv wlan0 mode adhoc;  iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:27] <Qnuffy> No it isnt
[16:27] <novato_br> tnt2 is 3Dvideo card ?
[16:27] <Qnuffy> its higher than my desktop
[16:27] <babolat> tanath: and did u have exactly these *before* the release, and they worked?
[16:27] <gordon_> anybody know how to add additional screen resolutions in hardy?  I used to do this in xorg.conf but that file has changed significantly-- my max resolution isn't big enough for my external monitor
[16:28] <tanath> babolat, well, change hardy to gutsy, and yes
[16:28] <babolat> tanath: and did u have exactly these sources *before* the release, and they worked?
[16:28] <hwilde> !fixres | gordon_
[16:28] <BenB> ikonia, hwilde: ok, modprobe vfat did the trick. auto module loading is *not* enabled in the installer kernel
[16:28] <babolat> tanath: finally, did u have to add a PGP/GPG Public Key back then?
[16:28] <fde> gordon_: It will still honor what you used to do in that file... it simply isn't required anymore, so they don't fill that in by default.
[16:28] <novato_br> !ttn2
[16:28] <novato_br> !tnt2
[16:28] <tanath> babolat, i had added some pgp keys several releases ago... none since
[16:28] <ikonia> BenB: it is, it probably just didn't work in this senario
[16:28] <YouKnowMe> I started playing a song by moving my cursor over it, then a deleted it while it was playing. Now it won't stop, and its 30Mins long.. Help?
[16:29] <BenB> ikonia, hwilde: make mental note: mount saying "Invalid argument" may be that the filesystem is not in the kernel
[16:29] <Wulfie> hey folks - I just upgraded to hardy heron the other day.  Earlier it seems my WM died - I couldn't move out of the window I was in, mouse clicks weren't being registered etc,  I restarted X (and the computer) now I start, my auto-launch apps work, I have a desktop with icons.  But I have no top or bottom bars (menus, taskbar, etc)
[16:29] <babolat> tanath: well, line 88 says that you need to this time..
[16:29] <ikonia> BenB: I know this, thats why I told you to modprobe it
[16:29] <fde> YouKnowMe: ps -e show it?
[16:29] <BenB> (I thought it was a bad dev path)
[16:29] <act1v8> Does someone, possibly, knows how to use the dead-keys in Cyrillic (Macedonian) keyboard support to enter difficult characters like ѐ ? Or the system Ctrl+Shift+u0450 when the Cyrillic keyboard settings are present?
[16:29] <tanath> babolat, been thinking of looking for a google one, but never needed it, and never got around to it
[16:29] <atlef> !nvidia | novato_br:
[16:29] <hwilde> BenB, /join #ubuntu-devel
[16:29] <gordon_> hwilde, fde thanks!  i'll check that link first and if no answer there-- i'll just go the xorg.conf route
[16:29] <navetz> hwilde: also, I am not sure if I mentioned this before, but I am running KDE on ubuntu server edition.
[16:29] <BenB> ikonia: ok, next problem.... I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[16:30] <tanath> babolat, no, i always had that google one. never affected anything. just alerted me is all
[16:30] <BenB> ikonia: now do I make it use the iso file copied on the USB stick?
[16:30] <BenB> ikonia: it keeps asking me for a mirror server.
[16:30] <tanath> babolat, the key is just to say you trust the repo after all, otherwise it prompts you when installing stuff from it
[16:30] <act1v8> anyone?
[16:30] <hwilde> navetz, your /etc/network/interfaces file seems to be ok.  it should work on reboot.  you can also try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[16:30] <ikonia> BenB: the iso image on the usb stick is squashfs, you'd need to decompress it
[16:31] <fde> tanath: Yes, well, you really ought to trust the repos you're adding... else you shouldn't add them  :P
[16:31] <BenB> there is nothing in the install menu either, just "configure network", "select mirror server" and "download components"
[16:31] <babolat> tanath: well, there was this one other guy who was having a problem with security.ubuntu.com as well.... dunno if that's relevant
[16:31] <navetz> hwilde: thanks man, I really appreciate the help
[16:31] <ikonia> BenB: what are you actually booting from ?
[16:31] <BenB> ikonia: that's not what the tutorial says, it says the iso would be used
[16:31] <BenB> ikonia: USB stick
[16:31] <Carlos>  /join #ubuntu-br
[16:31] <tanath> fde, oh, i trust the google repo, i just hadn't bothered to get the pgp key :P
[16:31] <kuma> hwilde i typed "sudo iwpriv wlan0 mode adhoc" and got "Invalid command: mode"
[16:31] <tanath> babolat, haven't had a prob with that..
[16:31] <ikonia> BenB: it should be able to "boot" the iso, not use the iso as a repo
[16:31] <ikonia> BenB:  is it booting the iso or something else ?
[16:31] <hwilde> BenB, ikonia,  need to hack the apt sources.list to look at hte usb not cdrom
[16:32] <ironfoot_495> I'm trying to set up Screem is there some procedures or howto?
[16:32] <fx_> hi
[16:32] <fde> act1v8: You can get access to the special character codes via Applications > Accessories > Character Map ... sorry, I'm not aware of how to use escape keys though...
[16:32] <ironfoot_495> To get the links set right?
[16:32] <Batch> What can i download to be able to watch videos in firefox on sites such as: Youtube or Stickam?
[16:32] <BenB> ikonia: it's booting from boot.img, see tutorial
[16:32] <fde> tanath: Always say yes, or simply only activate them when you know you'll need them...
[16:32] <Sake> x1250: thanks!
[16:32] <act1v8> fde: I know about the Character Map. But it's too big of a procedure to do when you are writing an essay, novel or whatever.
[16:33] <tanath> fde, say yes to what?
[16:33] <atlef> Batch: ubuntu restricted extras
[16:33] <Batch> oops
[16:33] <ikonia> BenB: I can't see that working but you could try hwilde's suggestion of changing the source.list
[16:33] <babolat> tanath: well, i'm stumped... :-/
[16:33] <Sake> ikonia: so you think x1250's suggestion is bad? why?
[16:33] <atlef> Batch: in add remove programs̈́
[16:33] <act1v8> fde: And do not forget about when using any other non-american keyboard layout. The Unicode keypresses aren't present.
[16:33] <Batch> I have that repo enabled i think
[16:33] <fde> Batch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:33] <ikonia> Sake: which suggestion, I didn't see it ?
[16:33] <kenci> to install wine.. can i just use sudo apt-get install wine
[16:34] <ikonia> kenci: just pull it out of the repos with your package manager of choice
[16:34] <atlef> kenci: get wine-doors. more gets installed
[16:34] <hwilde> BenB, ikonia   in the apt sources.list it's looking for the cdrom, which you need to change to the usb drive
[16:34] <visik7> any hope to see a dvd ? nor mplayer nor vlc neither totem-xine are able to reproduce my dvd libdvdcss2 is install as well as libdvdread3
[16:34] <fde> tanath: The command line says "Do you want to import this key? [y/N]" in such cases.
[16:34] <Batch> ty fde and atl
[16:34] <ikonia> hwilde: but his "repo" is in squashfs iso, that why I don't think it will work
[16:34] <hwilde> ohhh
[16:34] <ikonia> hwilde: I agree with what your saying
[16:34] <d90> why serbian language was never listed on ubuntu install cd? Not even in 8.04?
[16:34] <ikonia> hwilde: but it's not in that state, his repo is an ubuntu desktop iso
[16:35] <tanath> fde, uh, if you try to import the key, which i haven't yet. working on it though
[16:35] <fde> d90: Maybe it's not fully translated, would be a great place for you to start getting involved  :D
[16:35] <EvilAIM> mark!
[16:35] <atlef> EvilAIM: what?
[16:35] <_`XeOn_> how do i upgrade to Gutsy from Festy without doing all the first update in feisty if fresh install?
[16:36] <tanath> fde, i can't find the key
[16:36] <EvilAIM> Who is Mark here?
[16:36] <ikonia> _`XeOn_: you need to brin fesity up to date first
[16:36] <d90> fde:, but there are bosnian (difference les than 5% in words in compare with serbian), but serbian is far more better localized.
[16:36] <kenci> atlef.. the system could not find wine-doors
[16:36] <_`XeOn_> ikonia: ok thanks
[16:36] <tanath> fde, nvm
[16:36] <jrib> _`XeOn_: if it's a fresh install just do a fresh gutsy install (or hardy if that is your end goal)
[16:36] <sparr__> ikonia: it bothers me that ubuntu's package maintainers only support certain upgrade paths
[16:36] <navetz> hwilde: is there a network manager with a gui you recommend? I am using KNetworkManager but I cant get it to detect devices
[16:36] <atlef> kenci: http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[16:37] <amerio> any good guide for 3945ABG wireless card?
[16:37] <ikonia> sparr__: the upgrade paths are VERY open, it's common in all os's to bring the old OS up to date before upgrading to a new.
[16:37] <sparr__> navetz: try nm-applet (gnome)
[16:37] <fde> sparr__: Microsoft and Apple only support one: Buy the new product.
[16:37] <sparr__> ikonia: no, it's not.  particularly in debian.
[16:37] <hwilde> navetz, I don't trust any of the guis... because of problems like yours and many others.
[16:37] <_`XeOn_> is Hardy having issues?
[16:37] <d90> fde:, how can I help localizing ubuntu more?
[16:37] <atlef> kenci: there is a deb package
[16:37] <mysterycool> how can i type in another language except than English?
[16:37] <_`XeOn_> wich one is more stable? Gutsy or Hardy?
[16:37] <hwilde> mysterycool, i'm tired of answering your question over and over!
[16:37] <jrib> _`XeOn_: they're both stable releases
[16:37] <sparr__> ikonia: if [random package] 1.0 -> 1.1 -> 2.0 works, but 1.0 -> 2.0 doesn't, i consider that a bug.
[16:37] <mysterycool> hwilde: u didnt answer
[16:37] <sparr__> _`XeOn_: gutsy
[16:37] <ikonia> sparr__: I'd disagree, look behind the sence at what the debian update does. But thats not really for this topic (plus also be aware of the differences between certain upgrade paths eg: the old LTS to new)
[16:37] <tanath> fde, babolat ok, got the google key thing out of the way. alert still came back
[16:38] <mysterycool> hwilde: and the people who did didnt get it right =[
[16:38] <hwilde> mysterycool, go up in the menu   System- >  Admin -> Language Support
[16:38] <fde> d90: https://translations.launchpad.net/
[16:38] <jrib> sparr__: they're always looking for help
[16:38] <hwilde> mysterycool, go up in the menu   System- >  Admin -> Language Support
[16:38] <atlef> kenci: and it may seem to freeze, but be patient
[16:38] <mysterycool> hwidle: i went
[16:38] <navetz> hwilde: well I neet to set up a DNS and some other stuff, I don't know how to do it without a GUI :( I need learn all that you know
[16:38] <_`XeOn_> thanks quick help here as always :)
[16:38] <kuma> hwilde: by the way, all this changes i'm making the ad-hoc will affect me the next time i try to connect to a wireless conection?
[16:38] <mysterycool> hwidle: it still wont work =[
[16:38] <hwilde> navetz, put the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:38] <pord> hi there ive got a problem.... when i use the "update-menus" command i get "sh: illegal option -r". Can any1 help
[16:38] <fde> tanath: hit "Refresh" or 'sudo apt-get update'
[16:38] <gordon_> in xorg.conf, where it says, "Configured Monitor"... where are those settings configured?
[16:38] <hwilde> kuma, no you will have to hack some config files to do that...  i'm not sure how to make it adhoc on boot except by running those commands in /etc/rc.local
[16:38] <tanath> fde, yeah, i did. that's how i know it's "out of the way" :P
[16:38] <sparr__> gordon: in that section
[16:38] <babolat> tanath: try another server still? dunno
[16:39] <tanath> hm
[16:39] <mysterycool> hwidle: ive chosen my language then I hit apply. then what??! :S
[16:39] <gordon_> sparr__: but there is nothing there except for Identifier "Configured Monitor"
[16:39] <fde> tanath: You said it still came back though... it shouldn't...
[16:39] <kuma> hwilde: oh, ok, that's a relif... btw i typed "sudo iwpriv wlan0 mode adhoc" and got "Invalid command: mode"
[16:39] <sparr__> gordon: an empty section is a valid configuration
[16:39] <gordon_> sparr__: ah, i see. thanks
[16:39] <tanath> fde, i mean the alert in the status bar about package info being outdated
[16:40] <sparr__> gordon: generally speaking though, you would do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to change those settings.
[16:40] <tanath> fde, if you missed it, that's the problem i'm working on
[16:40] <sparr__> gordon: assuming you don't want to go through the docs and do things by hand
[16:40] <tanath> fde, the google thing was just an aside in case it was causing it
[16:40] <pord> when i use the "update-menus" command i get "sh: illegal option -r". Can any1 help
[16:41] <navetz> hwilde: is the nameserver suppose to be the ip?
[16:41] <hwilde> kuma, hold on i'll find the right command...
[16:41] <fde> pord: Does it say file and line?
[16:41] <hwilde> navetz, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:41] <pord> no
[16:41] <hwilde> navetz, and you can put in multiple ones
[16:41] <svl> I'm suffering from this libpam-encfs bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-encfs/+bug/205783/ - now someone has made available a ppa - https://launchpad.net/~rrenomeron/+archive - which I'd like to install. I've added the two entries to the third-party software sources list, but I don't know how to now actually get synaptic to _get_ that fix for me?
[16:41] <kuma> hwilde: thanks :)
[16:42] <pord> fde no it doesnt
[16:42] <fde> pord: Eh... then I'd recommend not using that and right clicking on Applications and selecting "Edit Menus" and do whatever there...
[16:42] <navetz> hwilde: what do you mean by multiple ones?
[16:42] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy.
[16:42] <fde> pord: If you're running kde, use kmenuedit
[16:42] <sparr> pord: bug in /etc/menu-methods/fvwm-crystal (you have that file?)
[16:42] <hwilde> navetz, you can put in the primary and secondary nameserver on two lines
[16:42] <pord> i might have that sparr
[16:42] <tanath> huh, the wine repo gave me a 404
[16:43] <pord> sparr yes i do... how can i fix bug?
[16:43] <sparr> edit that file and replace "sh -r" with "bash -r"
[16:43] <pord> rgr
[16:43] <sparr> ill file a bug report with a patch
[16:43] <tanath> didn't 5 mins ago
[16:43] <Jpeg9001> hey guys i have a weird problem... i just installer 8.04 on my comp and when i try to start gnome, X just fails. And if i try to go in some console, the screen turns black then i see the login screen but frozend with some weird colors on the top
[16:43] <navetz> hwilde: ah ok, thanks
[16:43] <Jpeg9001> installed*
[16:45] <navetz> hwilde: bad news, on a restart, my internet doesn't work by default:(
[16:45] <pord> sparr thanks thats done the trick :D
[16:45] <m0rk> is there any one that may be able to help with a digital camera issue?
[16:45] <tanath> Jpeg9001, when you try to log in?
[16:45] <hwilde> kuma, does  "iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc"  work?
[16:45] <Jpeg9001> yeah
[16:45] <tanath> Jpeg9001, did you try the failsafe gnome session?
[16:46] <kuma> hwilde: yup
[16:46] <Jpeg9001> i tried the failsafe thing, with only a console and it works
[16:46] <hwilde> kuma, ok then there you go :)
[16:46] <tanath> Jpeg9001, there's a failsafe gnome session. try that
[16:46] <hwilde> kuma,  to do that on boot add to /etc/network/interfaces under wlan0   "wireless-mode ad-hoc"
[16:46] <fde> sparr: Thanks, I usually assume Gnome in here... that would make you a particularly old timer huh - being an fvwm user  :P
[16:47] <fde> sparr: Person that got me going in Linux back in 01 was a contributor to that project... 'awol'
[16:47] <komputes> any idea how I could strip a whole bunch of files with a .txt extention of that .txt extention
[16:47] <Jpeg9001> it works too tanath
[16:47] <sparr> fde: i don't use fvwm much at all, i just happen to have it installed (along with a dozen other WMs)
[16:47] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy.
[16:47] <jtbandes_> Yes, I got Broadcom stuff working! http://penkin.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-804-broadcom-wireless/
[16:47] <kuma> hwilde: bu ti tried "sudo iwpriv wlan0 mode adhoc" and got "no scan results"
[16:47] <Cointoss> !script
[16:47] <Cointoss> !shell
[16:47] <fde> Cointoss: please /msg the bots
[16:48] <tanath> Jpeg9001, then i believe you can save your session, then log in again normally and it should be good...
[16:48] <hwilde> kuma, sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc        sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:48] <komputes> Cointoss: talking to me?
[16:48] <fde> Cointoss: Also, you probably want #bash
[16:48] <Jpeg9001> what could be the problem? i find it just weird that i can't go in my consoles
[16:48] <Cointoss> fde sry fot htat
[16:48] <hwilde> Cointoss, you can /msg ubottu to test in private
[16:48] <tanath> Jpeg9001, Sys > Prefs > Sessions
[16:48] <kuma> hwilde: yup, just did that
[16:48] <x1250> komputes: $ echo file.txt | sed s/\.txt//g
[16:48] <Cointoss> hwilde: ive jsut been told so ba fde thanx
[16:49] <sparr> rofl
[16:49] <roxandSLEEP> Goooooooooooodnight, internets! I'm off!
[16:49] <komputes> x1250: thx, i'm still suckage at regex
[16:49] <Cointoss> komputes: if you can help me with shellscript basics then yes:)
[16:49] <sparr> the bug that pord found was reported in debian 1 year 312 days ago
[16:49] <mnuaimat> dears, upgrading process from 7.10 to 8.04 is not working for me, it always freezes  after "Preparing to upgrdade" phaze. this has been repeated like 10 times till now, please help
[16:50] <mnuaimat> anyone help please ?
[16:50] <hwilde> !fixmber
[16:50] <hwilde> !fixmbr
[16:50] <fde> mnuaimat: How are you going about attempting to upgrade?
[16:50] <mnuaimat> fde: i open update manager then clicked "Upgrade to 8.04" button
[16:51] <Hasone> hi
[16:51] <kuma> hwilde: call me stupid... but the other PC should make an wireless connection with mine?
[16:51] <Hasone> I've got a question for the ubuntu masters
[16:51] <fde> mnuaimat: 'sudo update-manager -d' I've never had issues with as far as I recall.
[16:51] <compwiz18> !ask | Hasone
[16:51] <fde> Hasone: Then ask it.
[16:51] <mnuaimat> fde: ok wait a minute, i will try it
[16:51] <x1250> kuma: with the router
[16:52] <hwilde> kuma,  you have to put them both in adhoc mode and then set the ssid's the same
[16:52] <FastZ> mnuaimat: how long do you let it sit there before you give up on it and restart it?  Upgrading over the internet is a time-consuming process.  Give it some more time and see if it gets past the Preparing for Upgrade step
[16:52] <thefish> on hardy server, there is a warning that resolv.conf will be overwritten, anyone know by what, and where is the new good place to put nameservers?
[16:52] <kuma> hwilde: the other pc is windows, is that a problem?
[16:52] <hwilde> kuma, can you put it into adhoc mode
[16:52] <Hasone> alright. when I was updating to heron, my power went out and my computer shut off mid-update. now my internet doesn't work and I can't use the gui to browse my folders.
[16:52] <kuma> x1250: i dont have a router,
[16:52] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x3)
[16:52] <mnuaimat> FastZ: yeah i know that, i have tried to let it alone for a whole night, but the other morning i found its still stuck at the same point
[16:53] <thefish> Hasone, run sudo apt-get install -f
[16:53] <fde> FastZ: Good thing about doing it via CLI... it'll show her what it's doing... giving feed back is a good thing generally.
[16:53] <kuma> hwilde: ok, iĺl try
[16:53] <mnuaimat> now each time i open the update manager , a "partial update" pop up appears asking to do a partial update on some of the apps
[16:53] <Hasone> sudo can't resolve host laptop-name
[16:54] <svl> Can someone tell me how I install/apply the fix listed here: https://launchpad.net/~rrenomeron/+archive ? (Just a link to a tutorial about applying source PPA would do; all the information I can find is targetted toward people wanting to set up a PPA, not those wanting to apply it.)
[16:54] <FastZ> fde: i agree.  mnuaimat: alright, what happens when you perform a partial upgrade?
[16:54] <sparr> what is the proper way to handle bugs already reported upstream?
[16:54] <mnuaimat> FastZ: i didn't because i want a dist-upgrade
[16:54] <tanath> komputes, for i in $( ls | grep txt ); do sed s/\.txt//g; done
[16:54] <tanath> komputes, run that in a terminal
[16:54] <fde> FastZ: I don't think she's knowledgeable enough to get her to change files manually...
[16:55] <jrib> sparr: link them to your report in ubuntu's tracker
[16:55] <fde> mnuaimat: actually, how comfortable are you with command line tools?
[16:55] <tanath> komputes, er, woops, hold on
[16:55] <mysterycool> o_O
[16:55] <Hasone> what do I do if sudo can't resolve host computer-name?
[16:55] <x1250> tanath: that will not work :P
[16:55] <mysterycool> how can I make my ubuntu look like Mac OS X? :S
[16:55] <mnuaimat> fde: its all ok, i was beginner , now i am better a little
[16:55] <thefish> Hasone, cat /etc/hostname
[16:55] <mnuaimat> fde: anything i can do on shell ?
[16:55] <thefish> Hasone, you should also have a line for it in /etc/hosts
[16:56] <tanath> x1250, yeah, saw that :P
[16:56] <zengen> I have two computers with Hardy, and both are missing /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release-lts.  Is there anywhere I can get this file?
[16:56] <komputes> x1250: yours didn't work either
[16:56] <FastZ> mnuaimat: fde: if she already started the dist-upgrade, then wouldnt that be why she is getting the "partial upgrade" notifications?  proceeding with the partial-upgrade should start up where the dist-upgrade left off.  it's worth trying in my opinion.
[16:56] <Hasone> cat /etc/hostname - permission denied
[16:56] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x4)
[16:56] <x1250> komputes: I didn't attempt to script a solution for you, but just show you how YOU could script a solution for yourself.
[16:57] <fde> mnuaimat: ok... you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change instances of "gutsy" (I think you said) to "hardy" in that file... then do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get upgrade' all one command, copy and paste... looks complicated, but it's really not  :)
[16:57] <L3D>  um i have a ? when I uninstall a app from wine it still shows in the programs list how do i remove it? and yes i have asked aready in the winehq channel with no response  so im going to try my luck here.
[16:57] <mnuaimat> fde: ok , how can i do find replace with vi ??
[16:58] <Hasone> if I download the alternate install cd, should I be able to use that to fix my computer?
[16:58] <Jpeg9001> WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler
[16:58] <Jpeg9001> wtf
[16:58] <komputes> x1250: I understand, I don't need a script, just to clean up some files, I have tried   "find /home/me/txtdir/ | grep .txt | xargs sed s/\.html//g"
[16:58] <thefish> Hasone, you could also try logging in with "linux single" at the grub prompt (you may need to press ECS to get this whilst booting)
[16:58] <fde> mnuaimat: No idea... 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old && sed -e s/gutsy/hardy/' will work though
[16:58] <kollo16> Hello is it possible to run the ubuntu (.iso) file when i reeboot my windows  without bruning it on a CD?
[16:59] <achref> hi
[16:59] <Pici> !upgrade | mnuaimat
[16:59] <sparr> kollo16: possible, technically yes.  feasible, no.
[16:59] <thefish> Hasone, what do you get with "cat /etc/hosts" there should be a line in there for your computer name
[16:59] <achref> quelqun parle francais ?
[16:59] <Jpeg9001> oui, vien en privé
[16:59] <Crazyguy> kollo16, you could install it from usb-stick
[16:59] <Hasone> i get "permission denied"
[16:59] <achref> ok
[16:59] <sparr> fde: ok, reported bug #225297
[17:00] <fde> mnuaimat: I made a backup as part of that command also... but after that, run the previous command I said...
[17:00] <thefish> Hasone, youll need to boot to single user mode, like i said
[17:00] <x1250> komputes: this will probably work: for file in $(ls);do mv "$file" `echo "$file" | sed s/\.txt//g`;done
[17:00] <kollo16> Crazyguy: i got it on USB. but HOWTO now?
[17:00] <Hasone> thefish: alright.
[17:00] <Hasone> doing that now.
[17:00] <thefish> Hasone, its on a separate computer i guess?
[17:00] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x5)
[17:00] <sparr> fixing this bug would require minimal shell-scripting-fu, i think
[17:01] <Hasone> thefish: yeah. i'm chatting from my windows box. *shudder*
[17:01] <_`XeOn_> i dun like diz gnome xchat version
[17:01] <thefish> Hasone, nothing to be ashamed of :)
[17:01] <fde> mnuaimat: No idea... 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old && sed -e /etc/apt/sources.list s/gutsy/hardy/ ' sorry.
[17:01] <mnuaimat> fde: i understand that, thanks but , how can i now get rid of "Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" error ?? all update managers are killed , and theres nothing on the shell running apt-get or anything related
[17:01] <mnuaimat> fde: is there anyway to get rid of this error without restarting ?
[17:01] <fde> mnuaimat: lol... I didn't tell it what file to function on...
[17:01] <Hasone> thefish: the first time I signed on after the restart, I was able to download 500 MB worth of upgrades and install them. When I reset after that is when the system broke.
[17:01] <tanath> x1250, gah, i such at scripting, lol... my attempt keeps hanging :P
[17:01] <fde> mnuaimat: sudo
[17:01] <Crazyguy> kollo16, most of the tutorials I found require you to have a working linux installation to make the usb-stick
[17:02] <svl> Can someone tell me how I install/apply the fix listed here: https://launchpad.net/~rrenomeron/+archive ? (Just a link to a tutorial about applying source PPA would do; all the information I can find is targetted toward people wanting to set up a PPA, not those wanting to apply it. I must be overlooking something really obvious, as it shouldn't be this hard...) :/
[17:02] <mnuaimat> fde: ??
[17:02] <Crazyguy> kollo16, try searching http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=install+ubuntu+from+usb+stick&btnG=Google+Search
[17:02] <Hasone> thefish: it's just that I love my linux so much. And I've been coding up a storm on it recently. I just want to get back to that.
[17:02] <thefish> Hasone, not sure what has happened, but it looks like your computer has an identity crisis - it needs to know its name to be able to authenticate you. after we sort this, we can look at doing the rest of the upgrade
[17:02] <fde> mnuaimat: actually, I told you to use sudo already... ps -e and look for anything containing update or apt
[17:02] <thefish> Hasone, what you coding?
[17:03] <_`XeOn_> question: wich is better Compiz, Compiz Fusion, Beryl, GTK2 ?
[17:03] <mnuaimat> fde: thanks
[17:03] <TuxOtaku> hey, can anyone help me? I'm looking for a program that will monitor my bandwidth and email me a notification when I get to a certain amount every month
[17:03] <atlef> !compiz | _`XeOn_:
[17:03] <Hasone> thefish: okay, I'm in grub's esc menu. I get options for 2.6.22-14 and 2.6.20-16-generic with and without recovery mode. and for ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
[17:03] <Wulfie> hey folks - I just upgraded to hardy heron the other day.  Earlier it seems my WM died - I couldn't move out of the window I was in, mouse clicks weren't being registered etc,  I restarted X (and the computer) now I start, my auto-launch apps work, I have a desktop with icons.  But I have no top or bottom bars (menus, taskbar, etc)
[17:04] <Hasone> thefish: I'm exploring the dylan language (a lisp spinoff that's much less confusing and much more coherent). I'm writing a neural network to explore the language.
[17:04] <mnuaimat> fde: theres nothing related on ps -e
[17:04] <tanath> babolat, fde my alert has gone away... not sure if it'll come back again though
[17:04] <fde> tanath: When there are more updates, it will
[17:04] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x6)
[17:04] <Intangir> why is xmms not in hardy..
[17:04] <Intangir> i want my xmms
[17:04] <Otman> yea why there is no xmms
[17:04] <Otman> XD
[17:04] <tanath> fde, it has come back when there were none
[17:04] <Hasone> thefish: I'm also downloading hardy's altermate install cd. should I not bother?
[17:05] <atlef> Intangir: xmms2
[17:05] <tanath> fde, that was part of the prob
[17:05] <fde> mnuaimat: No idea... 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old && sudo sed -e s/gutsy/hardy/ /etc/apt/sources.list' btw... boy am I tired.
[17:05] <atlef> i think
[17:05] <thefish> Hasone, maybe wait a while
[17:05] <thefish> Hasone, but it may come in handy
[17:05] <feverkim> ls
[17:05] <Otman> sudo apt-get install xmm2    ... like that ?
[17:05] <jensp> hi there, does the ubuntu 8.04 LiveCD contain ntfs-3g?
[17:05] <Intangir> xmms2 is not xmms, its a command line crap with no front end, no video plugin support obviuosly.. it has very little to do with the xmms im talking about
[17:05] <Otman> xmms *
[17:05] <thefish> Hasone, ok, iirc there is a "c" option, to edit the command?
[17:05] <atlef> Intangir: ok
[17:06] <Intangir> Otman: its no good
[17:06] <atlef> Intangir: what about bpm
[17:06] <Hasone> thefish: yep. trying it now.
[17:06] <sparr> Intangir: sucks, doesnt it?  have to compile it yourself, or try audacious
[17:06] <mnuaimat> Using packages from repositories not controlled by Ubuntu is not recommended as it can be a security risk and may break or complicate your upgrade. If you have used EasyUbuntu or Automatix (neither of which is recommended nor supported), you may have problems upgrading to a newer version that requires a fresh install.  oops ,  i have installed automatix shit !!!
[17:06] <Hasone> thefish: in it now.
[17:06] <sparr> Intangir: audacious is a fork of a fork of xmms
[17:06] <navetz> hwilde: hey are you stiill here?
[17:06] <dgts123> regarding xorg.conf: does the syntax allow comment lines (with leading "#") within sections? (or only outside of sections)
[17:06] <sparr> mnuaimat: meh @ automatix...  ive got *DEBIAN* in my sources  :)
[17:06] <thefish> Hasone, ok you should have a # prompt, meaning you are the daddy-o
[17:06] <fde> mnuaimat: stick a # in front of those entries for now please.
[17:06] <Scunizi> my "audio capture settings are invalid" displayed after trying to activate gnome recorder. Testing on all plugins in Multimedia sys selector results in failed tests. How do I fix this?
[17:06] <Intangir> atlef: theres really no good replacement for xmms with xmms-mplayer plugin, audacious with a manually built mplayer plugin is almost usable, but doesnt realize it can play as many movie formats as it actually can, so sucks
[17:06] <hwilde> navetz, more or less
[17:07] <Hasone> thefish: I have a grub> promp
[17:07] <mnuaimat> ok i will try
[17:07] <Intangir> who do we gripe to to get xmms back into the hardy repos ;)
[17:07] <Intangir> how could they remove it..
[17:07] <thefish> Hasone, no wrong place
[17:07] <fde> sparr: That can seriously break things badly... be careful
[17:07] <atlef> Intangir: so why not use any of the other players?
[17:07] <sparr> Intangir: its removed from hardy because its removed from debian unstable, because the package maintainer retired
[17:07] <x1250> dgts123: you place comments anywhereç
[17:07] <fde> sparr: medibuntu rules though
[17:07] <navetz> hwilde: when I restarted, my internet no longer worked. My ip address and my mask arn't showing up when I do ifconfig.
[17:07] <x1250> dgts123: you can place comments anywhere
[17:07] <jrib> Intangir: http://bugs.debian.org/461309
[17:07] <thefish> Hasone, you need to edit the boot options
[17:07] <dgts123> ok thx x1250
[17:07] <TuxOtaku> hey, can anyone help me? I'm looking for a program that will monitor my bandwidth and email me a notification when I get to a certain amount every month
[17:07] <navetz> hwilde: I disabled my GUI network manager and restarted again, but no luck
[17:07] <Otman> any one know a good online game ?
[17:07] <sparr> Intangir: i had this same discussion a week ago  :)
[17:07] <hwilde> navetz,  I dunno... something is broken.  youre interfaces file is correct
[17:08] <thefish> Hasone, did you have a "recovery" kernel option, thats easier
[17:08] <mnuaimat> fde: theres only two active lines in my sources.list , deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main and a cdrom
[17:08] <sparr> Otman: what kind of game?
[17:08] <thefish> Hasone, just reboot again and choose that
[17:08] <Hasone> thefish: yeah, I do.
[17:08] <Intangir> sparr: well certain functionality with it isnt handled by any other program
[17:08] <Otman> sparr Online game
[17:08] <mnuaimat> fde: others are already commented !
[17:08] <Hasone> thefish: done
[17:08] <fde> mnuaimat: the cdrom line has a # in front of it right?
[17:08] <Intangir> with people always whining about linux having poor multimedia support, it seems a shame that one of its most convenient features is now gone..
[17:08] <thefish> Hasone, # prompt?
[17:08] <Hasone> thefish: yep
[17:08] <mnuaimat> fde: no , but i will comment it now
[17:08] <sparr> Intangir: i agree wholeheartedly.  compile your own xmms, like i had to  :-p
[17:08] <thefish> Hasone, ok cat /etc/hostname
[17:09] <sparr> Intangir: and if you feel really strongly, adopt the package and bring it back to debian/ubuntu!
[17:09] <RandomCake> okay, I was having trouble booting, I tried using using Super Grub Disk to fix, and it broke it even more... Now the only way I can get into a usable OS is using a Live CD! Meh, what on earth do I do?
[17:09] <neil_d> do USB external modems just work with Linux ?
[17:09] <Hasone> thefish: is it possible I could private message you? or do you want this discussion in the logs?
[17:09] <Intangir> xmms with xmms-mplayer plugin allows you to have 1 playlist, for all audio formats, all stream audio, and all movies. and is hotkeyable
[17:09] <Scunizi> If xmms is gone shouldn't the upgrade have replaced the default app in streamtuner with something?
[17:09] <sparr> Otman: role playing, strategy, shooter, tactics, board games, what?
[17:09] <mnuaimat> fde: what should i do with E: Unable to lock the list directory error ?? is there any way but not to restart ?
[17:09] <Intangir> totally awesome..
[17:09] <Intangir> sparr: maybe i will ;)
[17:09] <sparr> Scunizi: did it not?
[17:09] <thefish> Hasone, if you want, easier to keep track :)
[17:09] <Scunizi> sparr no
[17:09] <fde> mnuaimat: please paste the current /etc/apt/sources.list to ubuntu.paste.com or another pastebin at this point also
[17:09] <Otman> Roleplay and strategy
[17:09] <BoltCloc1> what did i just do to my system by hitting ctrl+alt+f5...? (i didnt read anything that told me to do that)
[17:09] <sparr> Scunizi: bug
[17:09] <mnuaimat> fde: ok
[17:09] <fde> UGH... paste.ubuntu.com
[17:09] <Otman> sparr Roleplay and strategy
[17:09] <peeps[work]> my laptop has a fingerprint scanner, are there any apps in linux that make use of this?
[17:10] <Scunizi> sparr: ok.. I'll report it.. but in the mean time what do I install to get it working?
[17:10] <Hasone> thefish: nm. i'm not registered.
[17:10] <sparr> Otman: real web-based, or flash?
[17:10] <sparr> Scunizi: not a clue, i dont use streamtuner
[17:10] <navetz> hwilde: when I try to ping my gateway it now says that network is unreachable? I tried restarting the network interfaces again, but it didn't seem to do the trick. Is there something else I need to restart possibly?
[17:10] <sparr> peeps[work]: yes
[17:10] <fde> mnuaimat: it's paste.ubuntu.com ... I need more coffee
[17:10] <Otman> Sparr Not flash just a good game 3d ...
[17:10] <fde> Otman: what sorts of games you like?
[17:10] <mnuaimat> fde: lol
[17:10] <sparr> Otman: web based non-flash 3d?  i dont think that exists
[17:10] <peeps[work]> sparr, such as?
[17:10] <Otman> fde i like Online games
[17:10] <hwilde> navetz, kill the ntwork manager again and then set it with ifconfig /sbin/route and see
[17:10] <sparr> peeps[work]: dont remember.  give me a sec
[17:10] <thefish> Hasone, ok no worries - when you "cat /etc/hostname" you should see your computer name
[17:11] <x1250> peeps[work]: I know I read once, somewhere, that yes, but I don't have any more info :(
[17:11] <Otman> Sparr i just want a game to download and install ...
[17:11] <Hasone> okay. i forgot my default keyborad layout is kinda iffy: I don't normally use it. I have to look it up ><
[17:11] <sparr> Otman: "download and install" is not a web game...
[17:11] <hwilde> when I boot up it gets to grub, then it says "mount: only root can do that"  over and over.  then it says  "mkdir cannot create directory /var/run/network: Read only filesystem"  any suggestions?
[17:11] <Intangir> wheres the debian development channel?
[17:11] <TuxOtaku> Otman, try Battle For Wesnoth
[17:11] <Otman> sparr yes Online means : Multiplayer get it ?
[17:11] <navetz> hwilde: it says error fetching interface information: device not found
[17:11] <sparr> Intangir: best of luck, they hate ubuntu primaries
[17:11] <fde> Otman: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree sun-java6-plugin gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg <-- restart firefox, and know yourself out  :)
[17:11] <mnuaimat> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9235/
[17:11] <thefish> Hasone, now this needs to be in /etc/hosts also, so cat /etc/hosts, and check there is a line like "<IP_ADDRESS> computername"
[17:11] <sparr> Otman: yes, but you still contradicted yourself
[17:12] <Intangir> screw it, maybe i can instead get audacious to handle it correctly
[17:12] <jtbandes_> I'm on Hardy on a Core Duo iMac. Trying to enable Desktop Effects doesn't work. I think my computer can handle it... how can I enable it?
[17:12] <Otman> Sparr THanks any way hehe
[17:12] <Intangir> thats probably a better solution
[17:12] <hwilde> navetz, ifconfig eth0 up
[17:12] <k20a> how do i list my installed plugins in firefox?
[17:12] <Jpeg9001> hey tanath, i just had to go in failsafe and install the ATI drivers :D
[17:12] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x7)
[17:12] <eventualbuddha> is there some way to tell whether I'm running on Ubuntu from the command line? uname -a doesn't seem to have the string 'ubuntu' in it
[17:12] <Intangir> k20a: goto tools, addons ;)
[17:12] <akk> k20a: about:plugins
[17:12] <tanath> Jpeg9001, yeah, drivers were my next guess
[17:13] <thefish> Hasone, any joy?
[17:13] <tanath> Jpeg9001, so all is well?
[17:13] <fde> mnuaimat: you probably want to add 'restricted multiverse universe' but now try 'sudo apt-get upgrade' (for now we're not doing dist-upgrade, well do that after, should make it go more smooth)
[17:13] <Hasone>  could someone do me a huge favor? look up the 'dvorak spanish' layout and tell me where / is?
[17:13] <Jpeg9001> well i can access my consoles and gnome starts whithout problem
[17:13] <thefish> hahaha
[17:13] <Intangir> laters
[17:13] <fde> mnuaimat: you can take them out again later, but if you've gotten anything from any of those previously, you'll need to update them along with everything else.
[17:13] <mnuaimat> fde: ok gimme a minutes plz
[17:13] <sparr> peeps[work]: thinkfinger is one
[17:13] <Hasone> or tell me how to switch keyboard layouts on the command line?
[17:13] <Jpeg9001> thanks :)
[17:14] <m1r> hello
[17:14] <yoymi> this chanel in spaniush pls
[17:14] <fde> !sp
[17:14] <fde> !es
[17:14] <navetz> hwilde: same error, could it be my ethernet is no longer being detected because I disabled my GUI?
[17:14] <sputnick> hi guys
[17:14] <pits> holaaaa
[17:14] <SW0RDF15H> hello
[17:15] <gnuskool> sputnick: hi
[17:15] <hwilde> why does it say "Read-only file system" ?? :/
[17:15] <vagner_rodrigues> #ubuntu-es
[17:15] <angasule> !es | pits
[17:15] <tanath> Hasone, U key
[17:15] <mnuaimat> fde: thanks its starting to upgrade now
[17:15] <DeeJayTwo> how can I see the hardware on my system?
[17:15] <pits> Somebody from spain??
[17:15] <thefish> Hasone, try top-right?
[17:15] <DeeJayTwo> (hardware list)
[17:15] <fde> mnuaimat: aww... you didn't run my sed command... heh... last iteration would have worked  ;D
[17:15] <Hasone> alright
[17:15] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x8)
[17:15] <soundray> !es | pits
[17:15] <DeeJayTwo> like windows's device manager
[17:15] <Hasone> aha! I used the number pad
[17:15] <mnuaimat> fde: oops !! lol :D .. thank you my friend, its working now, i will be back here if i face any problems :)
[17:16] <ramribeiro> hello.
[17:16] <soundray> DeeJayTwo: System-Preferences-Hardware Manager
[17:16] <soundray> pits: try #ubuntu-es
[17:16] <meagain> hey
[17:16] <ramribeiro> i have install ubuntu on toshiba Qosmio, but the extra keyboard didn't works
[17:16] <meagain> just a scannin' right now.
[17:16] <Hasone> when I cat /etc/hostname, it tells me "jason-laptop"
[17:16] <gnuskool> any tips on making pidgin bahave like xchat?
[17:16] <fde> mnuaimat: once that's finished and there are no errors, go ahead and type 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to bring along everything else...
[17:16] <mnuaimat> fde: ok i will .. thanks
[17:16] <sputnick> I try to modify the sources of bash-3.2 to enable "net redirections". I'have modified the file "rules" to change "--disable-net-redirections" by "--enable-net-redirections" but when I run fakeroot, I get al the time the following error : " install: cannot stat `clear_console': No such file or directory; make: *** [stamps/stamp-install-bash] Erreur 1"
[17:17] <fde> mnuaimat: Right now you're upgrading the stuff that there will be no issues with at all :)
[17:17] <Hasone> thefish: I'll try cat-ing /etc/host
[17:17] <unstable> I have a dapper box, I wanted to upgrade just the kernel, so it's a newer kernel on dapper. Is there an easy repository for me to do this? I don't want to upgrade to hardy
[17:17] <mnuaimat> fde: yeah, its working smoothly i think
[17:17] <thefish> Hasone, ok, now you need a line in /etc/hosts like "<IP_ADDRESS>   jason-laptop"
[17:17] <tanath> Hasone, woops, make that F
[17:17] <maarten_> On the desktop and in Nautilus I cannot open text files anymore in 8.04
[17:17] <DeeJayTwo> soundray : it's not listed ..
[17:17] <fde> mnuaimat: That's why we're doing only 'upgrade' first  :)
[17:17] <tanath> Hasone, heh, the image says U, but it's the F key
[17:17] <soundray> DeeJayTwo: what's not listed?
[17:17] <DeeJayTwo> hardware manager
[17:17] <DeeJayTwo> in preferences
[17:17] <mnuaimat> fde: hmm .. i think i am starting to understand :D
[17:18] <fde> mnuaimat: dist-upgrade will be more fun though... you can go drink or jog or whatever you usually do in the morning during this part  :D
[17:18] <meagain> So, Fellow Herons, how do you like beta testing; that new Firefox 3 is slick.
[17:18] <Hasone> thefish: I'm so sorry, but I gotta go do an emergency chore. I'll brb in 15 minutes.
[17:18] <mnuaimat> fde: oops, its afternoon here
[17:18] <soundray> DeeJayTwo: try starting it from a command line with 'hal-device-manager'
[17:18] <mnuaimat> fde: i live in jordan / middle east :)
[17:18] <mrjn> hey guys, new to this list, got a question regarding sound issues, am using Creative X-Fi (unfortunately), and just installed the latest driver from Creative
[17:18] <fde> mnuaimat: haha... well... I can't think of standard things for during the afternoon... I guess just lunch  :D
[17:18] <thefish> Hasone, i need to go in a bit, if im not here when you get back, just add that line to /etc/hosts - nano is a nice easy text editor
[17:18] <Hasone> mnuaimat: is there a jordan/south america?
[17:19] <DeeJayTwo> ok..it wasn't installed
[17:19] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x9)
[17:19] <DeeJayTwo> thanks
[17:19] <mnuaimat> Hasone: theres a district called jordan in usa
[17:19] <united> why's my dns keeps changing
[17:19] <fde> Hasone: Nope...
[17:19] <meagain> yes, in the heart of the claimed territory of Congo
[17:19] <Hasone> mnuaimat: you learn something new every day.
[17:19] <united> why's my dns keeps changing,i kept reenter the dns time and time again,i even save the dns setting in location
[17:19] <mnuaimat> Hasone: you have to live with it :)
[17:19] <soundray> !bot
[17:19] <mrjn> but even after I installed the XFiDrv, I still have no good luck trying to get the sound working, any ideas?
[17:20] <BuddhaSmoke> anyone? command to to add channels?
[17:20] <meagain> Ya'll hight?
[17:20] <pits> alguien habla español??
[17:20] <gnuskool> if i install amarok wil that slow down my system noticeably
[17:20] <Hasone> mnuaimat: I live in miami, florida. We have to deal with complaining from the poor shmucks in miami, ohio.
[17:20] <meagain> acting crazy.  Do somethin useful
[17:20] <soundray> pits: try #ubuntu-es
[17:20] <angasule> BuddhaSmoke: add channels to what?
[17:20] <pits> oks
[17:20] <mysterycool> What is Beryl exactly?
[17:20] <pits> merci
[17:20] <angasule> !es | pits
[17:20] <mnuaimat> Hasone: lol :)
[17:20] <atlef> gnuskool: no i don't think so
[17:20] <ChaosTheory^> How do you edit the preferred applications from terminal?
[17:20] <mysterycool> !beryl | mysterycool
[17:20] <angasule> mysterycool: old name for compiz fusion
[17:20] <BuddhaSmoke> angasule: to my list
[17:20] <Myrtti> Anyone from finland awake?
[17:20] <mnuaimat> Hasone: i think we should proceed each area name with a unique id :D
[17:20] <fde> mnuaimat: heh... so you like people like Hakim?
[17:20] <BuddhaSmoke> only got ubuntu now
[17:20] <united> why's my dns keeps changing by iteself,i kept reenter the dns time and time again,i even save the dns setting in location
[17:20] <monkeybritches> Shh!  I'm on Hardy. (x10)
[17:21] <Hasone> thefish: do I need that?
[17:21] <cleaton> how can i make xubuntu automount cd's and dvd's?
[17:21] <united> yes
[17:21] <dryrot> anyone know what is the default X font that pterm uses ?
[17:21] <Jpeg9001> oh wow, that last release is pretty impressive
[17:21] <mnuaimat> fde: then try to delete this portion of your life ;)
[17:21] <kuma> hwilde: now how do i conenct, the other PC detected the conection but is telling me to connect to it
[17:21] <united> i set it to enable roaming
[17:21] <meagain> terminating mode initiated
[17:21] <soundray> united: then you need to change your DHCP server to give out the nameserver addresses you want
[17:22] <fde> mnuaimat: hahahahha
[17:22] <atlef> gnuskool: never noticed, but my system is up to date, so....
[17:22] <thefish> Hasone, cp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.bak, then remove them
[17:22] <fde> mnuaimat: Who is a better artist from that area?
[17:22] <BuddhaSmoke> didnt see if you wrote in the channel. so much text
[17:22] <united> tell me how please
[17:22] <thefish> Hasone, you can always copy it back if needed
[17:22] <sriramoman> Everybody, please listen! I would like to tell everyone that f-spot is not slow because mono is unstable or anything. Reason: Banshee is stable and fast, even though it is made based on mono.
[17:22] <mnuaimat> fde: i think you should listen to amr diab or elissa
[17:22] <BuddhaSmoke> you know how to add more channels to my list
[17:22] <meagain> Smoke fills the air, upon steamy shores.
[17:22] <soundray> united: I can't, because I don't know  what kind of DHCP server you have in your network
[17:22] <thefish> Hasone, aah no
[17:22] <HermanChess> whats the command to open the system monitor?
[17:22] <thefish> Hasone, thats your ip6 stuff, leave that
[17:22] <united> humm
[17:22] <x1250> gnome-system-monitor
[17:23] <Hasone> okay.
[17:23] <Lirk[]> why in ubuntu 8.04 package gnome-keyring-manager doesn't exit?
[17:23] <thefish> Hasone, there should be a line at the top, saying <IP_ADDRESS> localhost - you have this?
[17:23] <mrjn> ideas guys? sort of sucks to be on your computer but not be able to run music
[17:23] <sriramoman> mnuaimat: i am listening to Adeeny Rege3telek , akhtar wahed
[17:23] <meagain> I made something for someone.
[17:23] <BuddhaSmoke> ehh gotta change irc-client...
[17:23] <mnuaimat> sriramoman: WOW NICE
[17:24] <sriramoman> mrjn: y dont u install the necessary media plugins straight away?
[17:24] <sriramoman> mnuaimat: are u from egyot?
[17:24] <sriramoman> egypt
[17:24] <fde> mnuaimat: YouTube really doesn't appear to like searching for those people... heh
[17:24] <mnuaimat> sriramoman: jordan
[17:24] <mnuaimat> fde: wait a minute
[17:24] <mrjn> sriramoman: I installed gstreamer etc. if that's what you mean
[17:25] <sriramoman> then what format do u mean does not play?
[17:25] <mohi> hi :)
[17:25] <mrjn> sriramoman: am using Creative X-Fi series, and just installed their latest driver
[17:25] <mohi> I upgraded to hardy and now when I type sudo in the begining of the command, it says: sudo: unable to resolve host ...
[17:25] <fde> mrjn: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree sun-java6-plugin gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg <-- restart firefox, and know yourself out  :)
[17:25] <Hasone> thefish: the first line reads ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[17:25] <xomp> I'm having trouble getting this to work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/CompaqW200 can someone help? I'm on Hardy. (x11)
[17:25] <fde> knock*
[17:25] <Hasone> thefish: nm
[17:26] <soundray> mohi: make sure you have a correct hostname entry in /etc/hosts. You'll have to boot in recovery mode to make that setting
[17:26] <jftsang> Hello, I have just installed Ubuntu Gutsy and am on an ethernet connection. How do I set the connection to my router to use a static IP, not DHCP? I tried disabling roaming mode, and it lost the connectivity.
[17:26] <soundray> !hostname | mohi
[17:26] <mrjn> sriramoman: doing a asoundconf list shows me X-Fi now, but still somehow sound controller says there's no audio device
[17:26] <salamandra> hi! sorry but my englis es very bad.. muy problem is.. ubuntu 8.04 + cedega + lineage ii kamel.. this is the problem.. http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7999/errorcedegawq9.jpg   any person help me????
[17:26] <navetz> hwilde: I got it set up where I can ping my gateway again, but my internet isn't working, is there something I maybe need to restart?
[17:26] <sriramoman> but there is one thing that has never worked without wine: http://www.raaga.com , musicindiaonline.com
[17:26] <Hasone> thefish: the first two lines are <IP_ADDRESS> localhost and <IP_ADDRESS> jason-laptop.linksys
[17:26] <HermanChess> whats the command to bring up the system monitor ?
[17:26] <DeeJayTwo> I have an ATI Radeon X1600 graphic card...
[17:26] <DeeJayTwo> with ubunt 8.04..
[17:26] <soundray> HermanChess: try gnome-system-monitor
[17:26] <DeeJayTwo> and it's a lot unstable with 3d acceleration
[17:26] <gsevil> somebody help me run ModelSim?
[17:27] <DeeJayTwo> desktop acceleration ..
[17:27] <thefish> Hasone, ok add jason-laptop to the end of the second line
[17:27] <fde> !enter | DeeJayTwo
[17:27] <sriramoman> mrjn: oh! i thought u were initially meaning plugin prob. i dont know about ur driver, sorry to have disturbed u
[17:27] <DeeJayTwo> sorry ;)
[17:27] <HermanChess> soundray: that worked, thank you.
[17:27] <Hasone> thefish: done.
[17:27] <mrjn> sriramoman: ah.. okay
[17:27] <Hasone> how do I check that it's correct?
[17:27] <maarten_> Nautilus doesn't open text files anymore... ?
[17:27] <fde> DeeJayTwo: There are many issues with Compiz in 0.7.2 ... apologies... people like such things though...
[17:27] <fde> maarten_: haha... it should.
[17:28] <jftsang> I tried to set the following:
[17:28] <jftsang> Configuration Static IP
[17:28] <jftsang> IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:28] <jftsang> Subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:28] <jftsang> Gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:28] <FloodBot2> jftsang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <mohi> ty soundray, I'll chekc
[17:28] <navetz> can somebody help me
[17:28] <sparr> it bothers me when a top-1000 popcon package is removed from debian/ubuntu
[17:28] <mrjn> fde: have all the plugins you said installed, except sun java6, but I guess I don't have a plugin problem
[17:28] <Hasone> thefish: I don't want to have to reboot and then come back to this screen :)
[17:28] <navetz> i am using a static ip
[17:28] <Milenia> Nyu!
[17:28] <thefish> Hasone, ok so now you have: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost and <IP_ADDRESS> jason-laptop.linksys jason-laptop at the top of /etc/hosts?
[17:28] <fde> navetz: Please explain your issue in detail
[17:28] <Hasone> thefish: yes
[17:28] <salamandra> hi! sorry but my englis es very bad.. muy problem is.. ubuntu 8.04 + cedega + lineage ii kamel.. this is the problem.. http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7999/errorcedegawq9.jpg   any person help me????
[17:28] <navetz> i can ping my gateway, and get good results, but my internet wont work
[17:28] <DeeJayTwo> fde: where's the problem? ATI driver? Compiz itself? ... When running any 3d application, it's all weird inside the application..
[17:28] <sriramoman> navetz: did you first CHECK UBUNTU HELP in ur desktop?
[17:28] <fde> mrjn: Yeah... X-Fi is a bad card for Linux support.
[17:28] <mrjn> fde: it has to do with getting to set the right driver
[17:28] <fde> DeeJayTwo: Compiz itself
[17:28] <DeeJayTwo> fde: I must disable desktop acceleration to run flightgear.
[17:28] <mrjn> fde: tell me about it :P
[17:28] <DeeJayTwo> same thing for google earth
[17:28] <hwilde> sriramoman, fde,  his /etc/network/interfaces file is correct but on reboot he has no networking.
[17:29] <thefish> Hasone, ok save that, then ping jason-laptop, you should get a reply (ctrl C to stop)
[17:29] <DeeJayTwo> fde: ok
[17:29] <wetaluv> hello everyone
[17:29] <maarten_> under properties Nautilus seems to know the correct file associations for txt files, but it doesn't open the file in a text editor
[17:29] <gnuskool> hello
[17:29] <mnuaimat> fde: elissa here http://panet.co.il/online/music/2/index.html
[17:29] <fde> mrjn: I spent about 2 hours the other day helping someone to troubleshoot... turns out your need "Open Sound Server" as there is no ALSA driver.
[17:29] <Hasone> thefish: done.
[17:29] <thefish> navetz, add "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" to your /etc/resolv.conf
[17:29] <thefish> Hasone, ok you got a response?
[17:29] <kuma> hi, i just mounted an adhoc connection, i want the other PC share the internet connection, how can i do that?
[17:29] <navetz> fde:  hwilde helped me get my internet running, when I restarted, it no longer worked. However I can ping my gateway
[17:29] <Hasone> thefish: yep, I did.
[17:29] <navetz> thefish: ok
[17:30] <thefish> Hasone, ok cool, reboot, that should at least allow you to use sudo now!
[17:30] <Hasone> thefish: Have I thanked you yet for being amazing? And is it me, or is linux easier to troubleshoot than windows, with everything in the command line?
[17:30] <chi11y> argh
[17:30] <mrjn> fde: you mean OSS, open sound system? If that's the one, I just activated it from System->Pref->Sound
[17:30] <fde> mnuaimat: She looks pretty, but I have NO idea what I'm looking at...
[17:30] <navetz> thefish: should I have 2 name servers in there?
[17:30] <dusti1> hi does anyone know a terminal command i can use to see whether or not i have a pci express slot available? <---- complete and utter comp nub
[17:30] <Hasone> thefish: I can only hope that sudo apt-get install -f works things out.
[17:30] <thefish> Hasone, its a lot harder at first because there is so much more info, but after that, yes a lot easier!
[17:31] <chi11y> ctalsa + nvidia is a nogo the nvidia drivers doesnt work...
[17:31] <chi11y> anyone who has had similar trouble?
[17:31] <thefish> navetz, you can, if you like you can add the opendns nameservers
[17:31] <mnuaimat> fde: just download any of her songs , the first one on the list is nice
[17:31] <chi11y> I think the problem is that the kernel is modified
[17:31] <mnuaimat> fde: user right click save target as
[17:31] <Hasone> maybe even this will fix everything else if I pray real hard
[17:31] <chi11y> and nvidia doesnt seem to like that
[17:31] <fde> mrjn: following this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239981 worked for that person.
[17:31] <maarten_> fde_: under properties Nautilus seems to know the correct file associations for txt files, but it doesn't open the file in a text editor
[17:31] <navetz> thefish: hey that fixed my internet :)
[17:31] <dusti1> chilly, im having a similar probelm with an xfi driver and i think it has something to do with the compiler that you use
[17:32] <thefish> navetz, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> are opendns :)
[17:32] <dusti1> it was my next question
[17:32] <dusti1> :P
[17:32] <Hasone> alright, I ran apt-get install -f.
[17:32] <coggz> can someone help with rsync
[17:32] <thefish> navetz, if you are using dhcp, it will break soon - for static you'll be ok
[17:32] <Hasone> still, when I click on my home folder, it opens up and then closes before I can do anything.
[17:32] <fde> mnuaimat: I am now... I didn't even know that was a list of songs, heh... didn't wanna just start clicking around
[17:32] <sparr> i really hope someone adopts xmms and packages it for debian/ubuntu again soon
[17:32] <fde> mnuaimat: I don't speak a word of Arabic, I just like the music, it's fun to dance to  :)
[17:32] <matthias_> hi anyone working with blocklists ???
[17:33] <fde> matthias_: Block lists via what?
[17:33] <mnuaimat> fde:  yeah i understand that , i am giving you the best of arabic music
[17:33] <Hasone> thefish: do you have any other brilliant ideas? (*is not being sarcastic*)
[17:33] <dusti1> anyone know a command or a way i can see if i have a pci express slot available? im a nub
[17:33] <mnuaimat> fde: amr diab is here http://panet.co.il/online/music/66/index.html
[17:33] <matthias_> fde:  deluge
[17:33] <atlef> sparr: haven't they ceased developing xmms
[17:33] <fde> mnuaimat: Thank you!
[17:33] <coggz> ?? rsync?
[17:33] <thefish> Hasone, sudo still not working?
[17:33] <mrjn> fde: yeah, I saw that thread. But that thread doesn't use the latest drivers from Creative. I installed them, but just fail to get it working somehow
[17:34] <navetz> thefish: I have a lamp server installed and a static ip. However I cannot connect to the server by typing the ipaddress in the url. Is this something I have to edit with the nameserver?
[17:34] <fde> matthias_: Ahh, I don't use Deluge, sorry....
[17:34] <poopuser> hey ppl i got a big time noob question-i presed somethin while in bash and now alt + 2 wont give me this essential sign of whatever-it-is-caled.how do i make it back 2 normal?
[17:34] <Hasone> thefish: sudo works. sudo apt-get install -f didn't help my problem.
[17:34] <mnuaimat> fde: you are welcome .. ;)
[17:34] <matthias_> fde what do you use
[17:34] <thefish> Hasone, ok we are getting somewhere, yay!
[17:34] <detcj> hi, does anyone know what process monitors /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf for changes?  If I change it via emacs hal does not see the changes, whereas if I change it with vi it does.  I'm wondering if this is a hal issue or if some other process is notifying hal.
[17:34] <thefish> Hasone, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:34] <matthias_> fde:  what do you use ?
[17:34] <fde> matthias_: Transmission - I don't need much from a torrent client.
[17:34] <Hasone> thefish: I also have no internet.
[17:35] <matthias_> fde:  i think you do, what protects you from preying eyes ???
[17:35] <mnuaimat> fde: FastZ: thank you all , i gtg now
[17:35] <thefish> navetz, sorry i dont understand, you want to connect to your server by ip address?
[17:35] <mnuaimat> bbye
[17:35] <EvilAIM> Hey, I have a Zune... I guess it's a windows mp3 player ( I didn't know! don't kill me!) but now I can't seem to mount the lil bugger... anyone have any ideas? I've already installed gnomad2 and didn't seem to help, unless I missed something...