[01:05] <deucalion> im irish, irish-american (i hate america sometimes, fuckin George Dub-ya Bush)
[01:05] <jakkass> hmm what generation m8
[01:05] <deucalion> i have no idea, and what is m8?
[01:05] <jakkass> a lot of yanks come and say oh my great great great great grandfather was irish etc
[01:06] <jakkass> :P
[01:06] <stdin> deucalion: m8 = mate :p
[01:06] <deucalion> oh, well im 3rd gen irish, my great grandfater lived in ireland, then moved to NYC
[01:07] <jakkass> ah 3rd gen's alright
[01:07] <jakkass> :)
[01:07] <deucalion> im related to thomas francis meagher, idk how, but im told i am
[01:07] <jakkass> George Dub-ya is a pain in the ass for the whole world tbh
[01:08] <DBO> jakkass, quite true and quite off topic for in here, keep political banter to the dedicated offtopic rooms =)
[01:08] <jakkass> :p
[01:08] <jakkass> sorry i was commenting on him saying [12:05:51]  <deucalion> im irish, irish-american (i hate america sometimes, fuckin George Dub-ya Bush)
[01:08] <deucalion> hey, i was too young to vote, so dont point the finger at me, then again, hes better than kerry, but who knows what 2008 holds for us....Schwartzenegger '08? (oh god, no this dream again)
[01:09] <DBO> ah yes, you too deucalion, also less on the swearing please =)
[01:09] <deucalion> ok, no problem
[01:09] <galorin> so is there a recent howto concerning the ralink R61 driver on kubuntu?
[01:10] <deucalion> im bout to go make breakfast, mmmmm....bagels. then go cruise the neighborhood on the pocketbike, so ill chat with ya later
[01:10] <deucalion> peace
[01:10] <stdin> galorin: wifi?
[01:10] <galorin> stdin, yep
[01:10] <stdin> !wifi
[01:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:11] <stdin> there ya go
[01:11] <jakkass> I use wifi Ralink 2500 chipset ftw
[01:11] <jakkass> :)
[01:11] <galorin> ta, I'll look through that.
[01:12] <jakkass> i'd prefer a wired connection stdin
[01:12] <jakkass> you can get a good bit of lag on wireless sometimes
[01:12] <jakkass> my house isn't cabled for it though
[01:13] <stdin> I only have a small network at home, so wired is fine for me (and I don't have a laptop :( )
[01:13] <stdin> jakkass: that's what a drill is for :p
[01:13] <jakkass> stdin i'm not a DIY junkie
[01:13] <jakkass> :P
[01:14] <jakkass> and i cba getting ripped off  to pay for one
[01:14] <stdin> you can get ethernet over power lines too
[01:14] <jakkass> stdin don't they lag so bad though
[01:14] <jakkass> i had one before at 10Mbit
[01:14] <jakkass> good god
[01:14] <jakkass> lol
[01:15] <stdin> it would, it's got a lot of interference to deal with
[01:15] <stdin> I just took a drill to my walls and all is well now :p
[01:15] <jakkass> do many of you use VOIP?
[01:15] <jakkass> I think it rocks
[01:16] <stdin> I use gizmo project
[01:17] <hanso> one problem: when I start up my kubuntu all the filesystems are beeing checked first and this takes a long time. do this have to be done?
[01:17] <jakkass> gizmo?
[01:17] <stdin> hanso: it should only happen once every 30 mounts (reboots) or days
[01:17] <jakkass> yeah
[01:18] <stdin> jakkass: http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[01:18] <jakkass> oh stdin I use a hardware ATA
[01:18] <jakkass> to link the phones to the internet
[01:19] <jakkass> the analog phones :p
[01:19] <hanso> stdin: it happens every time i start or reboot
[01:19] <jakkass> everytime? it must be failing due to corruption on the disk?
[01:19] <kubuntian> hello, somebody has any clue why lately the performance profile can't be changed anymore using Klaptopdaemon? the droplist and options are there but clicking on anything doesn't change it...
[01:24] <hanso> stdin: can there be a setup problem in linux=
[01:24] <hanso> ?
[01:25] <stdin> it's more likely to be a problem with the disk, how old is it?
[01:25] <hanso> stdin: 1/2 year
[01:25] <stdin> hmm
[01:26] <jpiccolo> arg anyone want to help me with conky
[01:26] <stamen> hi
[01:27] <stamen> how to adjust subtitles in mplayer
[01:27] <stamen> when the movie is running
[01:27] <stamen> did it have shortcuts
[01:27] <stamen> like bsplayer for windows
[01:28] <stdin> hanso: you could try running 'fsck.ext3 -f -c' on the partitions from the live cd to check for bad blocks, it will take a while tho
[01:32] <jpiccolo> anyone using conky?
[01:33] <kubuntian> hello, somebody has any clue why lately the performance profile can't be changed anymore using Klaptopdaemon? the droplist and options are there but clicking on anything doesn't change it...
[01:37] <uphill> hi
[01:37] <uphill> i want to shrink a ext3 partition; and i already shrinked the filesystem, but how do i shrink the partition?
[01:39] <stdin> uphill: huh, what do you mean you shrunk the filesystem, but not the partition?
[01:39] <BlackPhoenixx> install gparted, you can use it to change the size of a partition
[01:40] <jakkass> or kparted isn't it?
[01:40] <stdin> qtparted
[01:40] <jakkass> there we go
[01:41] <stdin> but it's not as good as gparted
[01:41] <BlackPhoenixx> U can run gparted under kde without any problem
[01:42] <stdin> you just have to install the gtk libraries
[01:43] <jakkass> rofl I cant resize the QTParted window
[01:43] <jakkass> xd
[01:43] <vincent> hi
[01:44] <stdin> it's a bit buggy sometimes, which you don't want when you're messing with partitions :p
[01:44] <uphill> stdin: i shrinked the partition with esize2fs -p /dev/hdb1  350G
[01:44] <jakkass> yeah i got both now stdin
[01:44] <jakkass> :)
[01:44] <uphill> but it dont changed the aprtition table
[01:46] <stdin> uphill: hmm, well as BlackPhoenixx said, install qparted and use that to resize the partition
[01:50] <ReFF> !register
[01:50] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:51] <stdin> ReFF: just type /msg NickServ register <password>
[01:51] <stdin> ReFF: replace <password> with a password tho :p
[01:51] <Jucato> isn't an e-mail also required?
[01:51] <ReFF13> yes, that was what i was doing ;-)
[01:51] <stdin> Jucato: it's not required
[01:52] <Jucato> ah, only on freenode it seems :)
[01:52] <ReFF13> yep
[01:52] <stdin> you need an email set for some things, like if you want a host mask, for example
[01:55] <Balsamic_Chicken> lol @ cooltux exit msg =) cute hehe
[01:58] <Balsamic_Chicken> how do people set exiting msgs
[01:59] <uphill> thats strange, qtparted is too suped to resize and with gparted no problem
[02:00] <stdin> yeah, qtperted is buggy
[02:00] <jakkass> the firefox channel is dead :o
[02:03] <stdin> jakkass: try the official one #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[02:03] <stdin> tho that's probably dead too
[02:03] <Balsamic_Chicken> does looking glass work with beryl
[02:04] <stdin> what's looking glass?
[02:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> it lets window be stacked sideways
[02:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> a little like vista
[02:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> but really different
[02:04] <stdin> ahh, I don't know if that works on beryl, but I want it
[02:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> !looking glass
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about looking glass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <Balsamic_Chicken> how do people set exiting msgs
[02:06] <jakkass> using the IRC protocol lol
[02:06] <jakkass> :P
[02:06] <jakkass> QUIT: message here\r\n from the client :P
[02:06] <jakkass> coded a phpbot that quit took ages to work :o
[02:07] <Balsamic_Chicken> was i supposed to understand what u just said =) hehe
[02:07] <jakkass> yep :P
[02:07] <Balsamic_Chicken> what do i type to get the msg
[02:07] <jakkass> what client are you using Chicken
[02:07] <Balsamic_Chicken> o
[02:08] <Balsamic_Chicken> i use konversation
[02:08] <jakkass> hmm
[02:08] <Balsamic_Chicken> what do u use
[02:08] <Balsamic_Chicken> k thx =)
[02:08] <jakkass> Konversation
[02:08] <Balsamic_Chicken> i could jsut convert to what u use
[02:08] <jakkass> it rocks
[02:08] <Balsamic_Chicken> o hehe
[02:08] <Balsamic_Chicken> k =)
[02:08] <jakkass> lol
[02:08] <stdin> don't think konversation lets you do it
[02:09] <jakkass> yeah It doesnt
[02:09] <jakkass> :(
[02:09] <Balsamic_Chicken> darn it
[02:09] <Balsamic_Chicken> o well
[02:09] <Balsamic_Chicken> i g2g sleep
[02:09] <Balsamic_Chicken> 5am here
[02:09] <Balsamic_Chicken> yum sleep
[02:09] <Balsamic_Chicken> bye =)
[02:09] <stdin> it lets you set a default /part message, but not a quit message
[02:10] <Balsamic_Chicken> think i prematurely kicked myself off with /part command
[02:10] <Balsamic_Chicken> did it work?
[02:10] <stdin> [13:09]  <-- Balsamic_Chicken has left this channel ("bye").
[02:10] <Balsamic_Chicken> is there a list of commands somewhere?
[02:10] <Balsamic_Chicken> yay thx =)
[02:10] <Lynoure> Balsamic_Chicken: try /help
[02:10] <Jucato> Balsamic_Chicken: try www.irc.org
[02:10] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: type /list
[02:10] <stdin> hun?
[02:10] <Balsamic_Chicken> cool thx everyone =)
[02:10] <stdin>  /list
[02:10] <Jucato> Balsamic_Chicken: don't use /list!
[02:10] <Balsamic_Chicken> that's for channels right
[02:10] <Jucato> unless you really mean to
[02:11] <Balsamic_Chicken> yeah i was looking for commands
[02:11] <stdin> it opens a new tab in konversation
[02:11] <Balsamic_Chicken> ic
[02:11] <stdin> but you might get disconnected from the server, so be warned :p
[02:11] <Balsamic_Chicken> =)
[02:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> anways, i g2g sleep lol, see you all later =)
[02:12] <stdin> later Balsamic_Chicken
[02:12] <dreamer> wtf, I'm banned from #debian :o
[02:12] <dreamer> anybody here in #debian that can ask for my unbanning? :(
[02:12] <jakkass> i'll go into debian
[02:13] <ravermeister_> hello i have a question, where do i find the .desktop file of storage media, which appears when you type system:/  in your konqueror?
[02:13] <jakkass> :P
[02:13] <dreamer> thnx jakkass
[02:14] <jakkass> [13:13:55]  <jakkass> afternoon all some guy named dreamer is bitchin in kubuntu about being banned from here
[02:14] <jakkass> [13:13:58]  <jakkass> just to let you know
[02:14] <jakkass> :)
[02:14] <stdin> ravermeister_: what .desktop file?
[02:14] <jakkass> [13:14:16]  <CharminTheMoose> jakkass, what a tool
[02:15] <ravermeister_> when you type system:/ in your konqueror, then some .desktop files (like links) appear
[02:15] <ravermeister_> one is called storage media
[02:15] <ravermeister_> normally he points to media:/
[02:15] <dizzz> hello, i'm having a serious problem with upgrading ubuntu from edgy to feisty
[02:15] <ravermeister_> but mine shows /media
[02:15] <ravermeister_> i want to change that,
[02:15] <dreamer> jakkass: hehe, am I unbanned now? :P
[02:15] <ravermeister_> so i need to know the location of the file
[02:15] <Jucato> ravermeister_: that's something new implemented in Kubuntu
[02:16] <Jucato> afaik, it's not controlled by .desktop files
[02:16] <dreamer> [freenode]  -!- Cannot join to channel #debian (You are banned) << :(
[02:16] <ravermeister_> thats something about kde, and it exists for a while
[02:16] <ravermeister_> ;)
[02:16] <dizzz> apt-get dist-upgrade tells me that the following packages have unmet dependencies: bluez-utils cupsys cups
[02:16] <stdin> no idea ravermeister_
[02:16] <dreamer> jakkass: I have _no_ idea why I got banned, maybe for my shitty connection last week
[02:16] <gnomefreak> dizzz: did you expect it to work?
[02:16] <ravermeister_> i had the location, but i forgot it somewhere in /usr/share
[02:16] <Jucato> ravermeister_: because in some ways, the media:/ kioslave is a bit "broken"
[02:17] <dizzz> gnomefreak: lol ... yes
[02:17] <gnomefreak> dizzz: dont forget to install kubuntu-desktop package before trying to upgrade
[02:17] <dizzz> making an apt-get -f install doesn't help
[02:17] <gnomefreak> notice i said before you try to upgrade. (its needed to fix depends)
[02:18] <Jucato> ravermeister_: might want to read this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKDEMedia
[02:18] <dizzz> the problem is that i'm now in some kind of cyclic problem: apt-get install anything asks me to make apt-get -f install but apt-get -f install doesn't work
[02:18] <ravermeister_> but in /media there is only my cdrom
[02:18] <ravermeister_> thx
[02:18] <gnomefreak> dizzz: apt-get -f install is just a suggestion its not always helpful
[02:18] <dizzz> ok
[02:18] <Jucato> oh there's something wrong there, then...
[02:19] <gnomefreak> dizzz: look in /var/log/ do you see a folder named dist-upgrade?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> dizzz: if its there it should have 3 files in it.
[02:19] <dizzz> gnomefreak: no folder dist-upgrade
[02:20] <gnomefreak> didnt think ther ewould be. ok what is output of "sudo apt-get -f install"  without the ""
[02:20] <gnomefreak> paste it to pastebin please
[02:21] <dizzz> ok 2sec
[02:21] <dizzz> thanks a lot for the help btw!!
[02:21] <jakkass> got my firefox problem sorted
[02:21] <jakkass> looks sweet now
[02:21] <jakkass> :)
[02:21] <gnomefreak> yw but its not fixed yet
[02:21] <dreamer> damn you #debian !!
[02:22] <dizzz> :-)
[02:22] <jakkass> dreamer they really don't like you
[02:22] <jakkass> what did you do
[02:22] <dbase13> lol
[02:22] <dreamer> nothing
[02:22] <dbase13> if he got banned, there will probably be a reason for it
[02:22] <dbase13> else they had just kicked him
[02:22] <dreamer> just asked something and left my connection open :$ (with a shitty connection that dropped out every 2 minutes :$)
[02:22] <bowens> Is anybody familiar with KNetworkManager?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> dreamer: spamming will do it ;)
[02:23] <jakkass> yes bowens
[02:23] <dreamer> damnit, I run debian on my server and I really need some help :@
[02:23] <jakkass> its a piece of shat
[02:23] <jakkass> lol
[02:23] <jakkass> took me ages to get working
[02:23] <jakkass> all i can say is don't use DHCP
[02:23] <dreamer> gnomefreak: I wasn't spamming, just my connection :P
[02:23] <jakkass> get it to set a static local IP for you
[02:23] <dbase13> he was just connecting & disconneting all the time?
[02:23] <dreamer> dbase13: yeah the network was F-ed up
[02:23] <bowens> jakkass: i'm able to get other methods of accessing my eth1 to work but in KNM i get the "No devices found" error
[02:24] <dreamer> fixed primo now
[02:24] <bowens> jakkass: i can connect through iwconfig or kwifimanager
[02:24] <bowens> so the device is there
[02:24] <dreamer> I just want to ask something about upgrading phpbb2
[02:24] <jakkass> oh i thought you meant kwifimanager
[02:24] <bowens> but i can't convince KNM that it's there
[02:24] <bowens> no, i mean knetworkmanager
[02:24] <exceswater> !server
[02:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:24] <dreamer> the stable in debian is 2.0.13, and up to 2.0.21 there are alot of bugs
[02:24] <bowens> the kde version of NetworkManager
[02:24] <exceswater> !undernet
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about undernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <jakkass> lemme check it out bowens
[02:25] <jakkass> my adapters called ra0
[02:25] <jakkass> because its the ralink chipset
[02:25] <dreamer> exceswater: undernet?
[02:26] <exceswater> i am trying to conect to undernet server
[02:26] <dreamer> ok
[02:26] <exceswater> but it seems like i am not able to
[02:26] <exceswater> can u adivice me ?
[02:26] <dreamer> sorry, no idea, never used it, what is your client?
[02:27] <exceswater> konversation
[02:27] <exceswater> yours ?
[02:27] <dreamer> irssi
[02:27] <exceswater> !irssi
[02:27] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[02:27] <exceswater> it's nice ?
[02:27] <dreamer> yeah, I run it in screen so i can access it everywhere
[02:28] <dreamer> !screen
[02:28] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[02:28] <dreamer> verry handy :)
[02:28] <dreamer> though it's all command-line, no fancy grafix ;)
[02:29] <dreamer> you can do _alot_ with irssi, run other chat-progs and stuff, have multiple windows embedded etc etc .. I don't know how though :P
[02:29] <dreamer> I jut run it in screen with irc
[02:29] <The_MAtrix_666> Hello
[02:30] <The_MAtrix_666> I nead help
[02:30] <dreamer> exceswater: "This means that you can use screen to keep programs running after you accidentally close the terminal emulator, or even after you log out, and later resume right where you were."
[02:30] <dreamer> The_MAtrix_666: we all need help ;)
[02:30] <exceswater> nice
[02:30] <exceswater> is hard to install screen and irssi ?
[02:30] <dreamer> so I just ssh to this box and resume chating :)
[02:30] <exceswater> man
[02:30] <dreamer> exceswater: just apt-get :)
[02:30] <stdin> so you can login ober ssh from work, and continue when you get back :p
[02:30] <exceswater> u speak strange
[02:30] <The_MAtrix_666> I cant start the Kubuntu from dvd
[02:30] <exceswater> i am new to linux
[02:30] <dreamer> !ssh
[02:30] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:30] <exceswater> ssh doesn't mean much for me
[02:31] <dreamer> ssh, screen and irssi are all very impartant ;)
[02:31] <stdin> ssh secure shell
[02:31] <dbase13> i find it weird dreamer, that you haven't been disconnected on this channel during the last 10 minutes, while you just told us that you did on the debian channel every 2 minutes
[02:31] <dreamer> exceswater: remato terminal access to your linex box :)
[02:31] <dreamer> dbase13: no, htat was last week, up untill wednesday, now my connection is primo again :)
[02:31] <stdin> let's you login to your box from a remote box, and it encrypts all the traffic
[02:31] <dreamer> !surfnet
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surfnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <dbase13> hmmm
[02:32] <emanuele> #ubuntu-it
[02:32] <niko_> hi
[02:32] <exceswater> man
[02:32] <niko_> can you help me
[02:32] <exceswater> it seems like i have screen
[02:32] <exceswater> and irssi
[02:32] <dreamer> niko_: we don't knew
[02:33] <exceswater> how i run it ?
[02:33] <dreamer> exceswater: yes,' it's kind of basic for most distro's
[02:33] <dreamer> exceswater: man screen
[02:33] <niko_> i have a problem with kate
[02:33] <exceswater> yes
[02:33] <exceswater> main screen ?
[02:33] <niko_> when i launch it with konsole to modify a file
[02:33] <dreamer> no, open a terminal, and typ: man screen
[02:33] <The_MAtrix_666> After booting the dvd i select start or install. an then is apear console
[02:33] <dreamer> it gives you the manual
[02:33] <niko_> i have an error
[02:34] <niko_> wait i am going to put a screen on imageshack
[02:34] <stdin> niko_: you can use pastebin to post it
[02:34] <dreamer> exceswater: but basically, for irssi for example, just run # screen irssi
[02:34] <stdin> !pastebin
[02:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:35] <dreamer> then clos the terminal, and enter # screen -d -r (-d for detach, if it is still running, and -r for resuming)
[02:35] <niko_> http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture1lu0.png
[02:36] <exceswater> it runs now
[02:36] <exceswater> !irssi
[02:36] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[02:36] <exceswater> how i conect to a server
[02:36] <exceswater> ?
[02:36] <dreamer> exceswater: it's running irssi ?
[02:36] <dreamer>  just /connect [server]
[02:37] <dbase13> can you guys upload your desktops on imageshack.us
[02:37] <dreamer> switch between windews with ctr+p or ctr+n
[02:37] <dbase13> it's always fun to see other pplz desktopz
[02:37] <dreamer> or just check www.irssi.org
[02:38] <dreamer> I just have an (almost) clean standard kde desktop with a pic of me and my gf :P
[02:38] <dreamer> dbase13: http://pimpbak.zapto.org/~dreamer/dingen/desktop-20061207.png
[02:38] <niko_> so what do you think about my problem ?
[02:39] <dreamer> there some more junk on my desktop atm ;P
[02:39] <dreamer> sorry niko_ I don't use kate
[02:39] <stdin> niko_: can you run kate from the menu entry in the kmenu?
[02:39] <dbase13> nice
[02:39] <dreamer> and yours dbase13 ?
[02:39] <dbase13> dreamer, by any chance are you dutch?
[02:40] <dreamer> yes :)
[02:40] <dbase13> ik ook :-)
[02:40] <dreamer> hehe
[02:40] <dreamer> hmm, ik zit niet meer in #ubuntu-nl
[02:40] <dreamer> ne weer wel :)
[02:40] <dbase13> i cant show it to you right now, cuz i'm at work -> xp
[02:40] <niko_> stdin : yes i can
[02:40] <dreamer> tss, ouch, ik haat windows echt tegenwoordig :@
[02:41] <dbase13> hehe
[02:41] <dbase13> tell me about it
[02:41] <stdin> niko_: then you should be able to run it from konsole too, unless you switched user
[02:42] <dreamer> dbase13: waar werk je?
[02:42] <Lynoure> dreamer: you can get rid of it, you know :)
[02:43] <dreamer> Lynoure: of what? ^_^
[02:43] <Lynoure> dreamer: the windows you have at the moment :)
[02:43] <dbase13> dreamer, check private msg
[02:43] <Lynoure> dreamer: unless I mistranslated.
[02:44] <niko_> stdin : it is very strange, i can run kate normally with the Kmenu, but when i launch it by konsole (sudo kate), it krashes :(
[02:44] <dreamer> Lynoure: do I have windows atm?
[02:44] <dreamer> :P
[02:44] <stdin> Lynoure: dbase13 has XP, not dreamer
[02:44] <dreamer> only at work
[02:44] <dbase13> yep, i'm the one behind the wintel
[02:44] <stdin> niko_: you didn't say you used sudo
[02:44] <dreamer> dbase13: I see no pm ..
[02:44] <Lynoure> dreamer: "ik haat windows echt tegenwoordig" does not mean "I have Windows presently"?
[02:45] <dbase13> lolzor
[02:45] <Lynoure> dreamer: maybe it is easier to stick to English here.
[02:45] <dreamer> Lynoure: no, it means: At this moment I hate windows
[02:45] <dreamer> hehe, I will ;)
[02:45] <dbase13> ziet ge nu geen venster met 'kan je dit niet zien?'
[02:45] <stdin> niko_: try with 'kdesu kate' or type: xhost +LOCAL: (no sudo)
[02:45] <dreamer> nop
[02:45] <dbase13> tiens
[02:45] <dreamer> raar
[02:46] <dbase13> dat is wel heel vreemd
[02:46] <dreamer> juh, wat draai je nu?
[02:46] <dbase13> welke IRC client gebruik je?
[02:46] <dreamer> irssi
[02:46] <dbase13> mIRC
[02:46] <dreamer> waarom?
[02:46] <dreamer> :P
[02:46] <dbase13> hehe
[02:46] <Lynoure> Puhutaanko sitten kaikki omilla kielill, perkele.
[02:46] <dbase13> omdat ik windows moet draaien hier :-p
[02:48] <yelonek> hi
[02:48] <Lynoure> yelonek: hello.
[02:48] <niko_> stdin ; strange, kate works finely
[02:48] <yelonek> how do i change my resolution to 1280x ?
[02:49] <yelonek> i got 15.4" monitor and it's blurry with 1024x
[02:49] <niko_> stdin : there must be a bug with konsole
[02:49] <stdin> niko_: it's because you were using sudo, so it was running as root
[02:49] <dreamer> dbase13: ik pm jou nu
[02:49] <yelonek> i can't get more than 1024
[02:49] <kouran> anyone got problems with nvidia drives and x server not starting?
[02:50] <stdin> niko_: and by default only the user logged in can access X
[02:50] <stdin> !resolution | yelonek
[02:50] <ubotu> yelonek: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:50] <dbase13> zie ik niet hoor dreamer
[02:50] <dreamer> heuh, raaar
[02:50] <dreamer> ik pm altijd met mIRC-gebruikers
[02:50] <dbase13> vreemd hoor
[02:51] <stdin> yelonek: you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[02:51] <Jucato> kouran: still no luck?
[02:52] <yelonek> thx, stdin i'll do it
[02:52] <dreamer> dbase13: heb je thuis geen ubuntu draaien dan?
[02:53] <dbase13> tuurlijk wel
[02:53] <dbase13> ubuntu en kubuntu
[02:53] <dreamer> ook atm aan?
[02:53] <niko_> stdin : but it is very strange when i am "root" in konsole and i want to launch kate, there is always the problem with Xlib
[02:54] <dbase13> atm?
[02:54] <dreamer> op dit moment?
[02:54] <stdin> niko_: the xhost cammand will fix that (until you logout)
[02:55] <niko_> stdin : xhost command ?
[02:55] <dbase13> neen, heb thuis op een laptop kubuntu draaien, maar staat nu nie op
[02:55] <stdin> niko_: root isn't allowed to access your display when you're logged in
[02:55] <dbase13> of wat bedoel je?
[02:55] <stdin> niko_: xhost +LOCAL:
[02:55] <dreamer> mja, ik bedoelde of je pc's aan staan en online zijn, want waarom dan niet irssi of bitchx in een screen over ssh? :P
[02:56] <stdin> you do know this is the english language channel, don't ya? :p
[02:57] <dbase13> yes, we know, but for some reason we cannot talk in private
[02:57] <stdin> is one of you not registered?
[02:57] <dbase13> dreamer= registered?
[02:58] <dreamer> aah, that may be the pm-prob :P
[02:58] <dreamer> no :P
[02:58] <dreamer> at least, not by me ..
[02:58] <dreamer> meh, w/e :P
[02:58] <dbase13> !regier
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <dbase13> !register
[02:58] <dreamer> gotta go do some stuff anyway
[02:58] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:59] <stdin> dbase13: you can let an unregistered user /msg you my typing "/msg nickserv set unfiltered on"
[02:59] <dbase13> cool
[02:59] <dbase13> thanx
[02:59] <stdin> np :)
[03:00] <stdin> it's a bit annoying reading a conversation I can't understand :p
[03:00] <dbase13> msg me to see if it worx nog dreamer
[03:02] <dreamer> I am ..
[03:02] <Lynoure> stdin: even if one of them is unregistered, forming a new channel would be preferable to chatting in foreign language here.
[03:03] <stdin> yeah :p
[03:03] <dreamer> there is an #ubuntu-nl though :P
[03:03] <Lynoure> dreamer: yep, but this is not it.
[03:04] <dreamer> uhuh
[03:04] <dbase13> we kned that Lynoure
[03:04] <dbase13> smartass
[03:04] <dbase13> knew
[03:05] <Lynoure> That's the bit that is annoying, you knowing but not caring.
[03:05] <dbase13> i do care, but in order for me to solve the problem, i have to communicate
[03:06] <martbd> Kubuntu hangs on shutdown or reboot
[03:06] <Lynoure> Feel free to, in English :)
[03:06] <dbase13> the man is keeping us down dreamer
[03:06] <dbase13> (h)
[03:06] <Lynoure> Or I can set you a private chat channel, if you prefer.
[03:06] <dbase13> it's ok dude
[03:06] <dreamer> :(
[03:06] <dbase13> no stress
[03:07] <dbase13> ;-)
[03:07] <dbase13> that's why we prefer Linux, don't we?
[03:07] <martbd> Help
[03:07] <dbase13> yeah, hi yourself martbd
[03:07] <martbd> hello
[03:07] <dbase13> @ dreamer: definitely
[03:08] <dbase13> old boy, requiem for a dream, human traffic
[03:08] <Lynoure> martbd: What do you need help with
[03:08] <dreamer> seen em:P
[03:08] <dbase13> blow
[03:09] <dbase13> saw3
[03:09] <dreamer> hmm
[03:09] <kubuntu> how do fix my reboot crisis
[03:09] <dreamer> don't think I've seen blow
[03:10] <dbase13> pretty good with Depp
[03:10] <dbase13> other good movie with Johnny Depp & Al Pacino = Donnie Brasco
[03:10] <Lynoure> kubuntu: What kind of reboot crisis?
[03:10] <dbase13> great movie
[03:10] <kubuntu> computer hangs
[03:10] <dbase13> martbd's computer hangs on a reboot or shutdown
[03:11] <dbase13> dreamer, have you seen the godfather series?
[03:11] <dreamer> meh, I think I have :P not my kind of flicks though
[03:11] <dbase13> :-o
[03:11] <dreamer> hmm, can't find blow (on dc++)
[03:11] <dbase13> you rape coolness dreamer :-p
[03:12] <dreamer> ah, there it is
[03:12] <dbase13> that's pretty impossible :-)
[03:12] <dreamer> hehe :P
[03:12] <dbase13> hehe
[03:12] <dbase13> there you go
[03:12] <Lynoure> !ohmy
[03:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:12] <Lynoure> and also
[03:12] <dreamer> heeh
[03:12] <Lynoure> !offtopic
[03:12] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:13] <dreamer> ohyeah, lets go there dbase13 ;)
[03:13] <dbase13> ok
[03:13] <dreamer> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:13] <dbase13> i'm in kubuntu-offtopic
[03:13] <Lynoure> martbd: It has worked properly before or always hanged?
[03:13] <martbd> never
[03:14] <Lynoure> martbd: Are you using 6.10 or some other version?
[03:14] <martbd> yes
[03:14] <martbd> 6.10 edgy
[03:15] <Lynoure> So you cannot start Kubuntu at all or does it just hang before shutdown?
[03:15] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all ! :)
[03:15] <martbd> I can't shutdown
[03:15] <martbd> morning
[03:16] <sleepy543> where can I find the screensavers in 6.06?
[03:17] <dbase13> display settings
[03:17] <BluesKaj> it should be in sys/settings/desktop
[03:17] <Lynoure> martbd: What's the last thing you see working at shutdown? ("Shutting down" what?)
[03:18] <Lynoure> martbd: and have you checked if there is anything relevant in the logs?
[03:18] <sleepy543> thanks
[03:19] <martbd> Firefox
[03:21] <Lynoure> martbd: no shutdown messages at all? So you just get firefox and it stops reponding but stays on the screen?
[03:21] <jpiccolo> anyone willing to help me parse something out of a command
[03:22] <martbd> the goes to black and stops
[03:24] <martbd> computer fails to reboot or shutdown
[03:25] <BluesKaj> ahhh, I had that prob , it was xserver xinit ... server error ..reconfig the xserver-xorg might work
[03:25] <Ridayah> ug, how can you downgrade a package to a slightly older version?
[03:26] <dennis_> where are ghostscript config files? i cannot find them...
[03:26] <stdin> Ridayah: do you know the version number you want?
[03:26] <Ridayah> Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> is buggy and causing serious issues, I want to head back to <IP_ADDRESS> since it worked just fine.
[03:26] <Ridayah> stdin: Yep
[03:26] <stdin> Ridayah: it'll be 'apt-get install package=version'
[03:27] <BluesKaj> Ridayah, what vers of kubuntu are you running?
[03:27] <Ridayah> 6.06
[03:27] <BluesKaj> FF2 runs ok on dapper
[03:27] <Ridayah> stdin: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[03:27] <Ridayah> BluesKaj: Question is, will it work with the plugins I like, and will it suffer the same error?
[03:28] <stdin> the version may be something like 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0.6.06
[03:28] <Ridayah> sounds about right on the version.
[03:28] <jpiccolo> can anyone help with grep
[03:28] <faeryNatsuki> hello, i need a little help
[03:28] <BluesKaj> ok , good point Ridayah...spoofstick won't run on FF2 for sure
[03:28] <faeryNatsuki> i need to open the kde control panel from command line, do you know what is the command?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> it's one i used to like having around
[03:29] <stdin> jpiccolo: depends on what you want, and if I know how
[03:29] <sivaji_2009> y dont linux profession optimize the os support .exe file
[03:29] <BluesKaj> startkde?
[03:29] <Jucato> faeryNatsuki: kcontrol
[03:30] <sivaji_2009> y dont linux profession optimize the os to support .exe file
[03:30] <stdin> faeryNatsuki: or 'systemsettings' for the kubuntu version
[03:30] <jpiccolo> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/545/
[03:30] <faeryNatsuki> Jucato: thanks a lot :)
[03:30] <stdin> sivaji_2009: because this isn't windows
[03:30] <jpiccolo> stdin: i only want the first temp
[03:31] <jpiccolo> stdin: i can get it to get the temps but i dont want both
[03:31] <McGruff> Is anybody familiar with KNetworkManager?
[03:31] <stdin> jpiccolo: try 'grep Core0'
[03:31] <jpiccolo> there is a newline between the Core0 and the temp
[03:31] <yelonek> !xubuntu
[03:31] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[03:31] <sivaji_2009> but most of the software available  on web are exe based
[03:31] <Lynoure> McGruff: are you taking a poll? Me! me!
[03:32] <McGruff> LOL
[03:32] <stdin> jpiccolo: ahh, right, give me a sec :p
[03:32] <Deez> what is the default email client for Kubuntu?
[03:32] <McGruff> Lynoure, are you familiar with the error "No network devices found"?
[03:32] <stdin> Deez: kmail
[03:32] <Lynoure> McGruff: But if you have an actual question, it helps to ask it.
[03:32] <Jucato> Deez: kmail
[03:32] <Jucato> ugh... too slow...
[03:32] <Lynoure> McGruff: I think it is the same old same old, wait a bit, I'll give you an url of something to try
[03:32] <sivaji_2009> is there any ide equivalent to ms visual studio
[03:32] <Deez> Jucato, I could not find kmail anywhere in my menus... is there a way to show all applications installed or something? I went nuts looking for it
[03:33] <help> Why doesn't hang shutting  down?
[03:33] <Jucato> Deez: run Kontact from K Menu -> Office
[03:33] <Lynoure> McGruff: Give this a try, if you haven't already: http://www.lynoure.org/blog/index.php?/archives/76-Solving-the-common-NetworkManager-problem.html
[03:33] <cloakable> Is there any way I can turn composite off in xorg?
[03:34] <stdin> jpiccolo: ok, 'grep -A1 Core0' will work, if you only want the temp, then you can use 'grep -A1 Core0|tail -1'
[03:34] <Deez> Jucato, I found kontact, so there is no direct link to kmail? I launched through cli and it is there...
[03:34] <Lynoure> McGruff: I do not know why but often networkmanager is not very happy with devices defined in interfaces.
[03:34] <McGruff> Lynoure: thanks, no i'd googled a bit but never saw that link
[03:34] <Lynoure> McGruff: That's because nobody reads my blog :)
[03:34] <Deez> Jucato, I see
[03:34] <McGruff> Lynoure: nobody reads mine either.... *sigh*
[03:34] <sivaji_2009> is there any ide equivalent to ms visual studio
[03:35] <Lynoure> McGruff: if it helps, feel free to link to it =)
[03:35] <Lynoure> McGruff: If not, let me know and maybe another solution can be found.
[03:35] <McGruff> Lynoure: probably not relavant, mine has more to do with politics and objectivist philosophy
[03:35] <jpiccolo> stdin: sweet thanks alot
[03:35] <McGruff> Lynoure: i'm checking it out now
[03:35] <stdin> jpiccolo: no problem :)
[03:37] <stdin> cloakable: what graphics card do you have?
[03:37] <cloakable> stdin: nVidia 5200
[03:37] <matroblend> If I change graphic cards will it be auto detected?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> what is objectivist philosophy ...being a totally objective dispassionate uninvolved observer i suppose .. ?
[03:38] <stdin> cloakable: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is there a line like "Option          "Composite"     "Enable"" in there?
[03:38] <cloakable> stdin: Not that I can see.
[03:38] <stdin> matroblend: yes, it will be auto detected, but you'll still need to reconfigure xorg
[03:39] <BluesKaj> but that's off topic , I'll be reprimanded for mentioning it.
[03:39] <stdin> cloakable: do you use XGL or AIGLX?
[03:39] <cloakable> stdin: Neither.
[03:39] <stdin> cloakable: them composite is already off
[03:40] <cloakable> stdin: Zinf disagrees with you :P
[03:40] <stdin> and who/what s Zinf ?
[03:40] <cloakable> stdin: (<unknown>:8424): Gdk-WARNING **: Attempt to draw a drawable with depth 24 to a drawable with depth 32
[03:40] <cloakable>  - that's the error Zinf gives when trying to qun in a x server with compositing.
[03:41] <sivaji_2009> if every software become free and open source how eng can survive
[03:41] <cloakable> stdin: Music player. Very light, so good for laptops/older hardware.
[03:41] <Lynoure> sivaji_2009: free and open does not mean not getting paid.
[03:42] <Lynoure> sivaji_2009: But if you want to talk about that, join #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:42] <stdin> cloakable: that looks to be something to do with colour depth, not composit
[03:43] <cloakable> stdin: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1033026&group_id=51494&atid=463479 - the problem is identified, and there's already a workaround for Slackware.
[03:43] <Jucato> Deez: there's no direct way in the K Menu to launch KMail, but you can always add it yourself
[03:44] <dreamer> i, how can I switch between desktops from the koyboard?
[03:45] <doodles> hello
[03:46] <matlec> hi
[03:46] <stdin> cloakable: have you followed the instructions here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=264789
[03:46] <doodles> is there a live cd of new kubuntu or only a dvd?
[03:46] <Jucato> dreamer: Ctrl+F1-F4?
[03:46] <dreamer> Jucato: no
[03:46] <Jucato> what do you mean "no"?
[03:47] <stdin> doodles: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/edgy/  (for edgy) the desktop CD is the live CD and install CD
[03:47] <dreamer> it doesn't work
[03:47] <doodles> stdin: ahh... ok ... thanks
[03:47] <amir__> How do I get the latest flash player ?
[03:47] <Jucato> you're not using Beryl or something?
[03:47] <cloakable> stdin: No extensions section in the xorg.conf, and no mention of one in the man page.
[03:47] <dreamer> Jucato: KDE
[03:47] <Jucato> amir__: flash 7 or flash 9 beta?
[03:48] <amir__> jucato, I dont know a site im trying to enter says latest flash player
[03:48] <Jucato> dreamer: it should be Ctrl+F1 for the first desktop, Ctrl+F2 for the 2nd, etc
[03:48] <stdin> cloakable: try adding the section, but just put 'Option "RENDER" "Enable" '
[03:48] <dreamer> Jucato: it doesn't work
[03:49] <Jucato> dreamer: anyway, you can set your own keyboard shortcut in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:49] <cloakable> stdin: ..okay. I can always remove it, i suppode.
[03:49] <dreamer> Jucato: not very handy either, since ctrl+f4 is window close in firefox
[03:49] <Jucato> dreamer: isn't that Alt+F4?
[03:49] <stdin> cloakable: that's the spirit :p
[03:49] <dreamer> Jucato: er, I meant close tabs
[03:49] <cloakable> stdin: :P
[03:50] <Jucato> dreamer: ah not Ctrl+W? anyway, like I said, you can set your own shortcuts
[03:50] <dreamer> Jucato: also ctr+w
[03:50] <cloakable> stdin: BRB :P
[03:51] <stdin> ok
[03:51] <burepe> BlackPhoenixx: Thanks for your help. I am really sorry I fell asleep when we took that break. I guess I was really tired. Didn't mean to dis you.
[03:51] <pippo_> Ciao a tutti.
[03:51] <dreamer> Jucato: not where you said
[03:51] <Jucato> dreamer: are you on Edgy or Dapper?
[03:51] <dreamer> dapper
[03:51] <stdin> !it | pippo_
[03:51] <ubotu> pippo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:51] <dreamer> kde 3.5
[03:51] <matroblend> stdin: Thanks, I am dropping my ATI 9550 for Nvidia 6200 to improve the driver issues of ATI
[03:52] <dreamer> Jucato: from an ubuntu install
[03:52] <Jucato> dreamer: Kubuntu Edgy or Kubuntu Dapper, not asking for the KDE version
[03:52] <dreamer> Jucato: so not original kubuntu
[03:52] <pippo_> Chiedo scusa,  la prima volta..
[03:52] <Jucato> dreamer: did you install kubuntu-desktop or kde/kde-core?
[03:52] <dreamer> Jucato: afaik
[03:52] <cloakable> stdin: Didn't work :( Still got the error.
[03:52] <Jucato> dreamer: so you don't have "system settings", only kcontrol?
[03:52] <stdin> matroblend: when you 1st boot with it, X probably won't start, so just reconfigure it
[03:53] <dreamer> Jucato: I have K-mune >> Settings >> Peripherals
[03:53] <dreamer> menu*
[03:53] <stdin> cloakable: sorry, I've no clue then
[03:53] <cloakable> stdin: Tis okay.
[03:53] <mfproroc> greets
[03:53] <Jucato> dreamer: K Menu -> Settings -> Regional & Accessiblity -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:54] <dreamer> ok thnx
[03:54] <Lynoure> McGruff: And results, either way?
[03:54] <matroblend> stdin:Ok now I have second thoughts as I am not so good at fixing things form command line it the a walkthrough?
[03:55] <jpiccolo> anyone using a nforce4 board?
[03:56] <stdin> matroblend: all you need to do is type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" after you login at the console
[03:56] <stdin> matroblend: it will detect what card you have and set it up
[03:56] <stdin> matroblend: you mostly just press enter a lot
[03:57] <BluesKaj> and the tabkey :)
[03:58] <stdin> yeah, maybe the up and down keys too
[03:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:58] <Hassan2a_> hello all
[03:59] <matroblend> stdin:Thank you stdin
[04:00] <stdin> you're welcome matroblend
[04:01] <McGruff> Lynoure; nope, though my current interfaces file doesn't look odd so i can't figure out what KNM is choking on
[04:11] <xnp> hi everybody i am looking for software to learn french, is there any for linux
[04:13] <GrahamRA> Frenchie: http://www.frenchtutorial.com/news.php?page=2
[04:13] <BluesKaj> xnp, most cd/dvd programs with video and audio will run on linux as well as windows
[04:13] <GrahamRA> Didn't take more than 5 seconds on Google to find.
[04:14] <BluesKaj> GrahamRA, don't think he meant in french ...i think he means he wants to learn french , but thinks there's something spaecial for linux
[04:16] <GrahamRA> I know that's what he meant, read the page.
[04:16] <BluesKaj> nope, too lazy
[04:16] <GrahamRA> Then don't tell me what I posted is right/wrong if you're not going to check it... ffs...
[04:16] <vge> :)
[04:18] <BluesKaj> looks like it's in french to me
[04:20] <dognews> hi
[04:20] <dognews> did anyone of you already got looking glass working?
[04:20] <dognews> *get
[04:22] <mfproroc> project looking glass?
[04:23] <dognews> yeah - the java based 3d window manager
[04:23] <sleepy543> is there a way to see if my motherboard is pci or agp?
[04:23] <mfproroc> ive run it on solaris, gentoo, and suse - but not in a couple of months
[04:23] <stdin> dognews: I'm gonna try and get that installed now
[04:23] <noiesmo> sleepy543, type "lspci " without quotes in terminal
[04:24] <sleepy543> thanks!
[04:24] <dognews> stdin: cool! I tried it yesterday, but it didn't work :(
[04:24] <mfproroc> xgl is a little better imho
[04:24] <mfproroc> theres a live cd out
[04:24] <cloakable> Got zinf running :)
[04:24] <dognews> mfproroc: but hard to install and not that good with ati cards :(
[04:25] <mfproroc> http://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lg3d-livecd/lg3d-livecd-3.0.0.iso
[04:25] <mfproroc> running a FireGL here
[04:25] <dognews> stdin: do you use the packages?
[04:25] <mfproroc> no problems on lin - some on solaris w/ ati
[04:25] <mfproroc> no probs solaris/nvidia
[04:25] <dognews> mfproroc: I tried that live cd too, but it's so slow with my computer :(
[04:26] <mfproroc> ;p
[04:26] <mfproroc> dognews: what proc/mem/vid
[04:26] <stdin> dognews: I'm going to try adding the apt repository "deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian stable contrib"
[04:27] <dognews> stdin: ok, that's what I did, too - everything worked fine, until he started to install the core package
[04:28] <Lynoure> McGruff: it does not need to look off. it tends to not be able to use interfaces that are there. So odd is what would be good.
[04:28] <gdiebel> what command can I use to identify what httpd a server is running?
[04:28] <dognews> stdin: adept gave me that error message: "Could not commit changes: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[04:28] <stdin> woah "Need to get 139MB of archives"
[04:29] <Lynoure> McGruff: You can comment out everything except loopback and see if it makes a difference. If not, easy to uncomment and go back
[04:29] <dognews> stdin: did you install java 6 for it?
[04:30] <stdin> dognews: no, just gonna try with the packages in the repository
[04:30] <stdin> lg3d-core, lg3d-java3d and lg3d-jdk
[04:32] <dognews> stdin: ok, please tell me, when there happens something
[04:32] <sb9> does anyone know whether stdout is a pipe , i.e. does it have the same restrictions to it as a pipe a define myself ?
[04:32] <sb9> its size
[04:32] <sb9> and so on
[04:32] <Dr_willis> Hmm... a pipe has restrictions?
[04:33] <jontec> my wireless isn't working... in system settings > network I try to enable eth1 (my wireless card) and it enables, but says it's disabled really quickly... why?
[04:33] <stdin> sb9: stdout normally points to the tty you are on
[04:33] <sb9> yes its size is limited to 512bytes (posix)
[04:33] <asraniel> question. why does the live installer of kubuntu in the partition choser show other partition names than qtparted?
[04:33] <sb9> but often it is larger
[04:33] <mfproroc> sb9: you can change that in 2.6.19 with a custom kernel though
[04:34] <sb9> i have a embedded system with 256bytes max
[04:34] <sb9> per pie
[04:34] <sb9> pipe
[04:34] <stamen> hi
[04:34] <stdin> mmm, pie :p
[04:34] <stamen> who can tell me how to change the bucket icon
[04:35] <stamen> trash icon
[04:35] <stamen> and the K button
[04:36] <sb9> join #bash
[04:36] <stdin> sb9: stdout normally points to the tty you are on
[04:37] <stdin> eg /dev/pts/1 or /dev/tty1
[04:37] <niko_> hello, i want to know one thing
[04:37] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[04:39] <niko_> when i enter top in konsole, the memory stats that appear, is it about the memory taken for the cache ?
[04:40] <niko_> in fact, i mean when you enter free in konsole, you have three rows
[04:41] <niko_> one for memory, one for cached and one for swap
[04:41] <seTecHno> hi all! I have a problem with the Kopetex plugin for kopete under Kubuntu, which worked fine for Gentoo
[04:42] <stamen> hi Dr_willis :)
[04:42] <seTecHno> tetex and imagemagick installed, as soon as I type in somehing between the $$, he freezes Kopete! but he creates the output in the home directory; even after killing kopete and deleting the output.png he recreates it endlessly
[04:42] <stamen> Dr_willis: could you help me
[04:42] <stamen> if you can
[04:42] <seTecHno> any ideas to fix this?
[04:46] <seTecHno> please anyone
[04:47] <Jucato> seTecHno: maybe you could ask in #kopete?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[04:47] <Jucato> ??
[04:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:48] <seTecHno> I'll try there, thx
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Oh wait - no coffee... got an ulcer...
[04:49] <Jucato> oh wait, no bottled water.... pollution
[04:49] <Dr_willis> it came from the tap anyway
[04:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:49] <Dr_willis> i just refill the bottle.
[04:51] <Jucato> oh btw, Dr_willis
[04:51] <Jucato> weren't you the one asking about a theming guide for Kubuntu before?
[04:51] <Dr_willis> You mentined it last night. :)
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ya get the KDM part done?
[04:51] <Jucato> yeah
[04:51] <Jucato> haven't decided where to put it yet, though, besides my own page
[04:52] <Jucato> http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html <-- temporary home
[04:52] <Dr_willis> heh.. there was somthing else i noticed... lets see...
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Theres those  'Theme-things' that then use other data files... i forget what  the name of the one i saw was...
[04:52] <Jucato> KDE themes (.kth)
[04:52] <Jucato> also discussed :)
[04:53] <Jucato> only thing I didn't discuss were Fonts
[04:53] <Dr_willis> 'dekator'
[04:53] <Jucato> dekorator
[04:53] <Dr_willis> had to sort of explain that the other day to a guy.. not sure how they would fit in with the other 'theme' thangs. a meta-themeing-add on?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> just installed it today to mess with it a little.
[04:54] <Jucato> dekorator is a window decoration (needs to be compiled or installed like a program) that lets you use (pixmap-based) themes to control its appearance
[04:54] <yelonek> !wine
[04:54] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:55] <Dr_willis> sort of a specilized to be flexiable window decoration. :)
[04:55] <Dr_willis> I think i noticed that Dekorator is in the repos... but i dident see any themes for it in the repos...
[04:55] <Dr_willis> unless it comes with a few. (its installing now)
[04:55] <stdin> dognews: did you use adept to install the packages?
[04:55] <Jucato> yep, no themes for dekorator
[04:56] <dognews> stdin: yes
[04:56] <Jucato> because you don't need to compile themes for dekorator
[04:56] <Dr_willis> which was sort of the guys problem.. he installed it.. and dident find it doing anything. Heh.
[04:56] <Jucato> Dr_willis: you'd be happy to know, dekorator is also covered in that guide :)
[04:56] <stdin> dognews: that may be why it failed, you have to accept some licences, and adept has no way to do that
[04:56] <stdin> dognews: you need to do it from konsole
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Isent there another similer one to Dekorator.. or am i thinking of one that uses icewm themes?
[04:57] <dognews> stdin: but as it didn't work, I also tried it with apt-get, but this didn't work either
[04:57] <Jucato> Dr_willis: IceWM
[04:57] <stdin> dognews: what was the error from apt-get ?
[04:57] <dognews> stdin: I accepted the licences - I just had to "Show Details" and hit "y" and return
[04:57] <Jucato> Dr_willis: there's an IceWM windeco for KDE. available through the kdeartwork-theme-window package
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  ok. that must of been what i saw while exploring.
[04:59] <dognews> stdin: Unpacking lg3d-core (from .../lg3d-core_1.0.0_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lg3d-core_1.0.0_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:00] <stdin> dognews: try 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install lg3d-core'
[05:01] <dognews> stdin: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! lg3d-core Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? y Preconfiguring packages ... lg3d-core failed to preconfigure, with exit status 1
[05:01] <dognews> stdin: and again the same error, I sent you before
[05:02] <stdin> dognews: all that script dose is displat the licence and ask you to accept it
[05:03] <stdin> dognews: try uninstalling it and reinstalling
[05:06] <dognews> $ sudo apt-get remove lg3d-core
[05:06] <dognews> Package lg3d-core is not installed, so not removed
[05:06] <Hassan2a_> re
[05:06] <Hassan2a_> http://www.cnetdirectintl.com/direct/tarsus/Linux/email_Linux2.htm
[05:06] <jamaur> hey all, does anyone have any advice for buying an external hard drive?  Future shop has a 320GB Comstar Platinum ext drive on sale for $150 Cdn, but it says it's uncompatible with Mac, and there's no mention of Linux, so I'm not sure if it'll work (though I'm sure it would)
[05:06] <Dr_willis> !find lg3d
[05:06] <ubotu> Package/file lg3d does not exist in edgy
[05:07] <Hassan2a_> allez visiter ce lien
[05:07] <Dr_willis> jamaur,  usb? firewire? serialata?
[05:07] <jamaur> usb
[05:07] <Hassan2a_> no firewire
[05:07] <Dr_willis> should work.. not sure how good a price that is.
[05:07] <Dr_willis> it pays to look at the drive/case and find one that feels solidly built. :)
[05:08] <HymnToLife> !fr | Hassan2a_
[05:08] <ubotu> Hassan2a_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:08] <dognews> stdin: It obviously can't remove the core package because it isn't installed yet
[05:08] <stdin> dognews: you can always try it the hard way
[05:08] <Dr_willis> i tend to buy the 'usb drive bays' and put in my own drives
[05:08] <Hassan2a_> !fr HymnToLife
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr HymnToLife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <Hassan2a_> !fr | HymnToLife
[05:08] <ubotu> HymnToLife: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:08] <dbase13> i dont like the system with the bays
[05:08] <dbase13> rather have a 'real' external hd
[05:08] <stdin> dognews: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst (as root) and comment it all out
[05:08] <Dr_willis> I mean the external drive 'box's' heh heh  - whatever ya want to call them
[05:09] <Dr_willis> I got some very solid alumimun ones.. where a bit pricy. but they are solid and dont need a fan.
[05:09] <Dr_willis> often the low end ones skimp on the power supplies.
[05:09] <jamaur> dr willis, interesting, how much would 320GB cost by doing it that way, roughly?
[05:09] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, 150bucks cdn is about 135US , not bad for a 320G drive , but I've never heard of that brand
[05:09] <Hassan2a_> !fr
[05:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:09] <dognews> stdin: what for? this doesn't sound as if it would work afterwards ;)
[05:10] <Dr_willis> a good drive case = $50 or so US. but that was a year+ ago.. may be cheaper now.
[05:10] <Hassan2a_> !fr dognews
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr dognews - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <dognews> stdin: does it work on your system?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Ive had some cheap ones not even work.. they dident give enough power to the HD.
[05:10] <stdin> dognews: that's the script that causes your error, so if you comment it all out, no error
[05:10] <Dr_willis> ive moved all my usb drives internal however.. they were just too slow for my needs.
[05:10] <stdin> dognews: I haven't loggin in to it yet, so I don't know if it works, but it's installed
[05:11] <jamaur> would I be able to read/play mp3's from a usb ext drive?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> jamaur,  that would work.
[05:11] <stdin> jamaur: yes, sure
[05:11] <BluesKaj> jamaur, afaik most IDE drives can run linux
[05:11] <Dr_willis> jamaur,  but i was copying over/backing up 4+gb files all the time... that got too slow. :)
[05:11] <dognews> stdin: but maybe it doesn't work without that script
[05:11] <Dr_willis> ya need 320gb for mp3's?
[05:12] <Hassan2a_> !fr all
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr all - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <dognews> stdin: it's strange, that it does work on your system, but not on my computer :(
[05:12] <Hassan2a_> !help
[05:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:12] <jamaur> dr_willis, no, I would like to back up my whole system as well
[05:12] <stdin> dognews: I've looked at the script, all it dose it ask you to accept the licence
[05:12] <dognews> oh
[05:12] <dognews> ok
[05:12] <Hassan2a_> oh
[05:12] <Hassan2a_> ok
[05:12] <stdin> dognews: it's safe to comment it out
[05:12] <jamaur> including mp3's, which I'd want to play
[05:12] <Dr_willis> jamaur,  should work. but you may want to pay attention to the brand of drive in the unit. if you want the most bang for your buck.
[05:13] <BTR> What app can i use as a FTP client?
[05:13] <jamaur> dr_willis, so if I bought a nice case, what type of drives would work with it?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> ive seen those external drive cases. that have network ports now a days - that would be faster.. and i saw one the other day that could play mp3/vidoes stand alone even.
[05:13] <dbase13> KBear
[05:13] <dbase13> KASABLANCA
[05:13] <BluesKaj> jamaur, do you have a URL, so we can check out the drive ?
[05:13] <stdin> BTR: konqueror
[05:13] <Dr_willis> jamaur,  depends on the case. :) id be tempted to go with SATA drives now - if the interface of the case is what you need.
[05:14] <jamaur> http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10079845&catid=23795
[05:14] <BTR> thanks stdin:)
[05:14] <stdin> np
[05:14] <dbase13> KBear, Kasablanca and gFTP are also good FTP Clients
[05:14] <dbase13> => BTR
[05:15] <stdin> but he's already got konqueror :p
[05:15] <stdin> and it's a pretty good client too
[05:15] <jamaur> dr_willis, so just any internal SATA drive?  For example, the same ones that I'd plug into my desktop tower?
[05:15] <stdin> not he best
[05:15] <stdin> but good
[05:16] <Dr_willis> jamaur,  yep. i often use my old drives in usb enclosures
[05:16] <Dr_willis> jamaur,  usb is the bottle neck. so often the older slower drives work just fine. no loss of speed.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> but newer drives may use less power/noise..
[05:17] <Dr_willis> I rember when my $100 external usb drive /100gb was  'amazing' :)
[05:17] <dognews> stdin: I haven't got any lg3d-core file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[05:17] <stdin> dognews: try to apt-get install it again
[05:18] <jl> I have the problem that, apparently, the 64 bit Kubuntu 6.10 version is not able to correctly display images and movies.
[05:18] <jamaur> dr_willis, any particular brands of usb drive bays that you'd recommend?
[05:19] <dognews> stdin: I did that just 2 minutes ago - still no file
[05:19] <stdin> Dr_willis: I remember when 1GB driver were considered massive :p
[05:19] <jl> Does anybode have a clue on how to solve this issue or what is the reason for it?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> stdin,  yep. i saw those new flashmedia drives comming out soon in 32gb sizes
[05:19] <Dr_willis> jl,  what 'images' ?
[05:19] <stdin> dognews: no file called '/var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst' ?
[05:19] <jl> pictures (jpg,png,...)
[05:20] <Dr_willis> and what are you viewing them in?
[05:20] <dognews> stdin: nope
[05:20] <jl> there are strange artefacts in dark areas of pictures and movies
[05:21] <jl> it does not matter, i tested firefox, konqueror, kaffeine, mplayer, vlc, ...
[05:21] <stdin> dognews: do you have '/var/cache/apt/archives/lg3d-core_1.0.0_i386.deb' ?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> sounds like a video driver issue perhaps.
[05:21] <jl> i tested the nv and nvidia driver: both have the same problem on amd64
[05:21] <dognews> stdin: yes with a size of 60,6 MB
[05:22] <Dr_willis> try a live cd. 32bit and they display fine?
[05:22] <jl> i also tested kernel 2.6.17 and 2.6.19 and it doesn't make a difference
[05:22] <jl> yes, the ubuntu 32bit live cd works
[05:22] <jl> the kubuntu 6.10 live cd and installation does not work
[05:22] <stdin> dognews: yeah, try 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/lg3d-core_1.0.0_i386.deb'
[05:23] <jl> it is quite frustrating, because i just recently migrated to kubuntu :-/
[05:23] <Dr_willis> You mean the Ubuntu 6.10 live cd. works/boots/diplays fine? but the Kubuntu Livecd dont boot? dont display right?
[05:23] <dognews> stdin: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:23] <stdin> dognews: is /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst there now?
[05:23] <HymnToLife> !alternate | jl
[05:23] <ubotu> jl: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:24] <dognews> stdin: no
[05:24] <jl> the Kubuntu 6.10 amd64 live cd does not display pictures and movies correctly
[05:24] <jl> the Ubuntu 6.10 i386 live cd works correctly
[05:24] <stdin> dognews: try 'sudo dpkg --unpack /var/cache/apt/archives/lg3d-core_1.0.0_i386.deb'
[05:24] <Dr_willis> and you havent tested the Ubuntu 6.10 amd64 cd yet?
[05:25] <jl> @ubotu: how is this related to my problem?
[05:25] <stdin> jl: ubotu is a bot, it can't answer you
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I dont even bother with the amd64  versions any more.. just too many issues in the past.
[05:26] <HymnToLife> jl, you don't want to use the Live CD on a daily basis, do you ?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> There are some amd64 related forums/wiki pages I think.
[05:26] <GrahamRA> jl: ubotu is just a botm won't reply.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !hug
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <HymnToLife> !botsnack
[05:26] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:26] <jl> no, i haven't tested Ubuntu 6.10 i386, but I think it Kubuntu/Ubuntu are likely to behave the same for this problem
[05:27] <HymnToLife> @lart stdin
[05:27] <dognews> stdin: again: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:27] <GrahamRA> !botkill
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botkill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <GrahamRA> Aww...
[05:27] <HymnToLife> is Ubugtu dead ?
[05:27] <HymnToLife> @time Paris
[05:27] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Paris: January 05 2007, 17:27:39
[05:27] <GrahamRA> !pancakes
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pancakes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <jl> @Hymn: i have a full installation of Kubuntu 6.10 amd64, but additionally I also tested the Live-CD (to make sure that the problem is not my fault)
[05:28] <HymnToLife> jl, it doesn't work in a full install either ?
[05:28] <jl> it is the same like the live CD
[05:29] <stdin> dognews: what dose 'find /var/lib/dpkg/info/ -name "lg3d*" give?
[05:29] <stdin> post in pastebin
[05:29] <sleepy543> !kidding
[05:29] <ubotu> You may think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users or irritate people who actually start answering your question :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=134   is the ubuntu 64bit forums...
[05:31] <dognews> stdin: /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-java3d.templates /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-jdk.config /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-jdk.templates /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-java3d.preinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-java3d.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-java3d.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-jdk.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-java3d.config /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-java3d.prerm /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-java3d.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-jdk.prerm /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-jdk.l
[05:31] <dognews> lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-jdk.postinst
[05:32] <jl> it is not easy to find the right search phrases for the problem
[05:32] <Dr_willis> jl,  yea. not seeing many hits as i search either.
[05:32] <jl> so far, i didn't find anything useful
[05:32] <HymnToLife> !pastebin | dognews
[05:32] <Dr_willis> jl,  it aint somthing basic like you having the color depth set too low? :)
[05:32] <ubotu> dognews: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <GrahamRA> Where in bloody hell is Firefox installed?
[05:32] <HymnToLife> GrahamRA, why do you care ?
[05:33] <GrahamRA> Need to install flash.
[05:33] <fdoving> !flash9
[05:33] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[05:33] <Dr_willis> jl,  its highly possible its a nvidia driver bug with their 64bit versions.
[05:33] <HymnToLife> any reason why you don't just apt-get it ?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> but you said its affecting nv and 'nvidia' drivers... try the 'vesa' drivers perhaps?
[05:33] <jl> willis: i don't think the problem is my fault, because it also happens with live cd
[05:34] <Dr_willis> jl,  it happens with the 64bit live cd also.. thats an interesting clue.
[05:34] <HymnToLife> Dr_willis, I don't think it's even possible to play videos with the vesa :p
[05:34] <Dr_willis> jl,  to be honest.. ive given up on even trying the 64bit disrtos any more.
[05:34] <stdin> dognews: strange, ok, try commanting out all the lg3d*.preinst files
[05:34] <stdin> dognews: they are all the same
[05:34] <GrahamRA> Because I've got no idea what to apt-get.
[05:34] <HymnToLife> GrahamRA, flashplugin-nonfree
[05:34] <Dr_willis> !backport
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <HymnToLife> !flash
[05:34] <Dr_willis> !backports
[05:34] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Please no Flashing , this is a faimly channel. :)
[05:35] <GrahamRA> Doesn't work.
[05:35] <stdin> GrahamRA: have you enabled the backports repository?
[05:35] <jl> 64 bit system exist for quite a while now, so i hoped it would be reasonable to install the 64 bit version ...
[05:35] <Dr_willis> 'Dosent work' = vague and ueeless to tell us.. clarify
[05:35] <GrahamRA> Never heard of it, so I'll guess no.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> jl,  its always the Little things that seem to cause problems on them.
[05:36] <dognews> stdin: can I just move them to another direcotry or do I have to edit every single file?
[05:36] <jl> what else, if not the kernel or the graphics driver, can cause such a problem?
[05:36] <jl> it could be a library for image rendering or something like that
[05:36] <stdin> dognews: there are only 3 of them, and you do need to edit them
[05:37] <Dr_willis> jl,  try some different players liek vlc?
[05:37] <stdin> GrahamRA: are you on dapper or edgy?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> jl,  but that fact it affects both Images, and videos.. seems to tell me its a driver  issue,
[05:37] <GrahamRA> 6.10
[05:37] <jl> willist: i already tried that
[05:37] <GrahamRA> edgy
[05:37] <GrahamRA> I hate those names.
[05:38] <stdin> GrahamRA: just add the line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to the bottom of your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:38] <Dr_willis> heh the version #'s are just the date of release....
[05:39] <jl> is there an easy way to install a more recent nvidia driver to see whether it also has the problem?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> i dont have a 64bit live cd here - or i would test it.
[05:39] <stdin> GrahamRA: then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:39] <HymnToLife> jl, yes, just une the installer from nvidia.com
[05:39] <Dr_willis> jl,  i recall a wiki page onec about how to install the latest.. and what issues to watch for.. but never messed with them
[05:39] <HymnToLife> use*
[05:40] <sdlnxgk> anyone know how to script????
[05:41] <stdin> depends what you want to script
[05:41] <Deez> is there something that can help me migrate my Firefox, Thunderbird settings to Konqueror, Kmail, respectively?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[05:41] <stamen> how to make the taskbar like in MacOS
[05:41] <Dr_willis> echo Hello World.
[05:41] <jl> hymn: can i easily deinstall the driver from nvidia.com without interfering with the kubuntu packages?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> there ya go. :)
[05:41] <stamen> where was the option
[05:41] <stamen> in kcontrol
[05:42] <Deez> Dr_willis, do you really need to uninstall the nvidia driver? you can also comment it out in your xorg?
[05:42] <HymnToLife> jl, dunno, I always use the drivers from nvidia.com, which have always worked flawlessly
[05:42] <Dr_willis> stamen,  you mean the ugly bouncy icon dock thang that osx has?
[05:42] <sdlnxgk> stdin I'm  studying for a linux test and they have tutorial on scripting but I get error messages... they are using red hat linux could that be why?
[05:42] <HymnToLife> so I didn't bother to tes the uninstaller :p
[05:42] <Deez> Dr_willis, with of course renaming it to something compatible like nv :)
[05:42] <stamen> Dr_willis: yes I want to try it
[05:42] <stdin> sdlnxgk: depends what the error is
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Deez,  commenting it out dosent really uninstall it.. :)   but not sure - if installing the ones from the nvidia script.. should overwite them.. may be safest to apt-get remove the old.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> stamen,  kde-look.org has some details on them. then check the package manager see if some exist there to be easy to install.. i find them all ugly and useless.
[05:43] <ninn> What package to install for the Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) headers?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !kxdocker
[05:43] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[05:43] <Deez> Dr_willis, not sure what the problem is *but* I think addressed the wrong person :P
[05:43] <Deez> Dr_willis, sorry :)
[05:43] <sdlnxgk> stdin it's not putting data where it needs to be
[05:43] <ninn> i cant find it it at my own .. tried every qt-dev i could find.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Deez,  heh heh.   :)
[05:43] <stamen> Dr_willis: ok, 10x
[05:43] <Dr_willis> 'innovative' :)
[05:43] <sdlnxgk> stdin where is a good place to post at?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> an innovative clone?
[05:44] <HymnToLife> stamen, http://asktog.com/columns/044top10docksucks.html
[05:44] <stdin> !pastebin | sdlnxgk
[05:44] <ubotu> sdlnxgk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:44] <stdin> there
[05:44] <sdlnxgk> stdin  thanks :)
[05:44] <GrahamRA> Sorted.
[05:44] <Deez> HymnToLife, I used the Nvidia driver to amp up the bling with Beryl. I fell back to nv because nv supports 1400x1050 better than Nvidia does.
[05:45] <dognews> stdin: strange :( subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:45] <stdin> ninn: tried libqt4-dev ?
[05:45] <stamen> HymnToLife: I will see it
[05:45] <stamen> 10x
[05:45] <ninn> Thats already installed, stdin.
[05:45] <ninn> :-/
[05:46] <stdin> dognews: on what pachage, lg3d-core?
[05:47] <dognews> stdin: still /var/cache/apt/archives/lg3d-core_1.0.0_i386.deb
[05:48] <dognews> stdin: maybe it's because I don't have this script?
[05:49] <ninn> i dont get it ... :-?
[05:50] <stdin> dognews: try 'echo \#\!/bin/bash | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst && chmod +x /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst'
[05:50] <jl> i found a way to install latest driver using packages: http://albertomilone.com/newlegacyrepo.html
[05:50] <stdin> dognews: then sudo apt-get install lg3d-core
[05:52] <sticazzi> hello, how do I change desktop resolution?
[05:52] <ninn> via configuration-dialogs or via commandline?
[05:52] <sticazzi> configuration-dialogs if possible
[05:53] <ninn> push the  k-menu-button, and select "system-settings"
[05:53] <dognews> stdin: #!/bin/bash chmod: changing permissions of `/var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst': Operation not permitted
[05:53] <ninn> go to "monitos and screens"
[05:53] <stamen81> ee
[05:53] <ninn> then push the button on the bottom to enter admin-mode.
[05:54] <stdin> dognews: add sudo before chmod
[05:54] <ninn> (ok, thats quite complicated)
 sudo chmod 777 /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst
[05:55] <ninn> found it?
[05:55] <dognews> stdin: done - but still the same error on apt-get install
[05:55] <sticazzi> nope, not sure it's there
[05:55] <The_Machine> someone has to help me figure out why the HECK evolution starts every time i boot into X using KDE.  I don't have it in ~/.kde/Autostart and it isn't running when I shut down.  Anyone have any idea why it's doing this?!
[05:55] <The_Machine> :)
[05:55] <ninn> what dialog do you see now sticazzi
[05:55] <ninn> ?
[05:55] <stdin> dognews: dose /var/lib/dpkg/info/lg3d-core.preinst still exist ?
[05:55] <sticazzi> give me an extra bit
[05:56] <dognews> Sea_Master: why do I need to write to that file?
[05:56] <dognews> stdin: yes
[05:56] <stdin> dognews: what size is it?
[05:57] <dognews> stdin: 12 bytes
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> stdin check this when you get time... added some comments... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/557/
[05:58] <stdin> dognews: then it can't be that file that's causing the error
[05:58] <dognews> stdin: strange... what then?
[05:58] <stdin> dognews: did you comment out all the other lg3d*.preinst files?
[05:58] <dognews> yes
[05:59] <dognews> stdin: tow others
[05:59] <stdin> dognews: I don't know why it's not working then, you can try using the Megabundle package
[06:00] <dognews> stdin: what's the difference?
[06:01] <stdin> dognews: the megabundle one should work, it's just one big script basically
[06:02] <stdin> sdlnxgk: what's the error you get when you run it?
[06:03] <sdlnxgk> stdin sdlnxgk is using du -s | cut -f 1 kilobytes
[06:03] <sdlnxgk> that is what it says
[06:03] <sdlnxgk> where the du -s | cut -f 1 is should be kilobytes
[06:03] <sdlnxgk> very odd
[06:03] <dognews> stdin: ok, I'll try it tomorrow - thanks for your help :)
[06:03] <sdlnxgk> if I change the  code around I get  output but  can't get it where I want it at
[06:04] <sdlnxgk> :q
[06:04] <sdlnxgk> opps  wrong  screen:D
[06:04] <stdin> sdlnxgk: ahh I see, I'll change the post on pastebin to show you
[06:04] <sdlnxgk> k
[06:05] <sdlnxgk> couldn't find SPACE anywhere in scripting commands
[06:05] <dognews> bye
[06:06] <w00t_sauce> I need a program to sync my palm with my computer.  I can't seem to get Palm Desktop to work on wine.  Suggestions?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> kpilot ?
[06:06] <w00t_sauce> thank you
[06:07] <stdin> sdlnxgk: look at http://pastebin.com/851990
[06:07] <stdin> sdlnxgk: i just changed "SPACE='du -s | cut -f 1'" to "SPACE='`du -s | cut -f 1`'" to execute the command
[06:08] <sdlnxgk> stdin  thanks... I wouldn't think that scripting in RHL and Kubutu  would be differnt
[06:09] <stdin> sdlnxgk: it isn't, that script would have failed on RHL too
[06:10] <stdin> the ` charactor mean to execute the command inside the 2 `` , without it you just set the variable SPACE to the name of the command, not the result of it
[06:10] <sdlnxgk> hmmm because I copied it from video on RHL test and  it worked for him... maybe i'm using the wrong kind of '
[06:10] <BTR> Do i need to download any packages to hear .mp3 files? Kaffeine and amorak wont play them:(
[06:10] <Dr_willis> shuldent there be some other construction used these days instead of the ` whatever ` ones?
[06:10] <stdin> sdlnxgk: probably, in bash ' and ` are very different
[06:11] <Dr_willis> BTR,  check the KUBUNTU Faq. it tells exactly what needs to be installed
[06:11] <sdlnxgk> stdin I know where ' is but where is the other?
[06:11] <stdin> Dr_willis: $(command) will work too
[06:11] <sdlnxgk> ahhhh next to the 1
[06:11] <BTR> thanks Dr_willis
[06:11] <sdlnxgk> hehehehhe
[06:11] <Dr_willis> stdin,  yea. :) im try ing to break out of the ` ` habbit also.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  heh heh :)
[06:11] <Dr_willis> backtick = ` ` ` ` `
[06:12] <stdin> sdlnxgk: depends on your keyboard, mine is before the '1' key
[06:12] <sdlnxgk> Dr.Willis never used that key before.... ;)
[06:12] <stdin> I never used the | key before linux :p
[06:12] <sahin_w> BTR: I think you have to install amarok-xine package
[06:13] <marcelo__> Hi all, there is any program that converts video files to DVD, for KDE?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> so its a very clean key. :)
[06:13] <sdlnxgk> stdin I used  the | in dos for reading | more in a directory
[06:13] <BTR> How come the faq is empty?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> it is? hmm..
[06:13] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis a very clean key other then using ~ for some games ;)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php
[06:13] <stdin> sdlnxgk: I started using linux around the win95 days, so I didn't get much time in DOS
[06:13] <sahin_w> BTR: I checked... you have to install libxine-extracodecs for mp3 support in amarok
[06:13] <Dr_willis> its there for me.
[06:13] <BTR> forget about it, i just had a acrazy lag it seems:(
[06:14] <Dr_willis> lol
[06:14] <_necron_> hm. i installed edgy and i am not sure if my 3d works correctly. if i do "glxinfo | grep direct rendering" it says "direct rendering: yes" ... but if i activate an opengl-screensaver its slow like hell ... my xorg.conf uses driver "ati". i have a radeon 9600
[06:14] <BTR> sahin_w: thanks!
[06:14] <stdin> BTR: to get amarok to play mp3s install libxine-extracodecs
[06:14] <Dr_willis> hmm.. they havent updated it for edgy yet.!
[06:15] <BluesKaj> _necron_, have you tried the "fgl_glxgears" test ?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ok they got special sectons for the older.. i miss-read. :)
[06:15] <sdlnxgk> stdin you rock dude !!!!  I just changed ' to ` and it worked great !!!!
[06:15] <_necron_> BluesKaj: no. one moment :)
[06:15] <stdin> sdlnxgk: bash scripting is easy, once you know how :p
[06:15] <_necron_> BluesKaj: i cant start "fgl_glxgears"
[06:16] <_necron_> do i have to install that from ubuntu-repository?
[06:16] <stdin> _necron_: try glxgears
[06:16] <sahin_w> BTR: np
[06:16] <_necron_> ah. there are some things moving :) its not slow
[06:17] <_necron_> the console says:
[06:17] <_necron_> glxgears
[06:17] <_necron_> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[06:17] <BluesKaj> ok necron, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[06:17] <sdlnxgk> stdin just starting so have a long way to go :)
[06:17] <_necron_> BluesKaj: thanks :)
[06:17] <marcelo__> Hi all, there is any program that converts video files to DVD, for KDE?
[06:17] <_necron_> but if i get a new kernel, i will have to do that again, right?
[06:18] <alex__> could anyone give me a hand with converting a .bin to mpeg?
[06:18] <tony_> hello...i am new at kubuntu and linux also...I am trying to install a new icon set i downloaded from kde-look.org...i downloaded the crystal clear set of icons...it opened up with ark...how do I get them all installed?
[06:18] <stdin> sdlnxgk: this is a good resource: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[06:18] <tony_> any help would be appreciated
[06:19] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I think we have a test subject...
[06:20] <Jucato> tony_: http://jucato.org/kde/kubuntuthemes.html#icons
[06:21] <stdin> tony_: Kmenu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons and click on the "Install New Theme..." button, then click the folder icon (above cancel) and locate the file you downloaded, click OK, then OK again and you're done
[06:22] <tony_> thanks guys...i'll try that
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  heh heh.. :)
[06:23] <Jucato> tony_: no need to open the icon them in ark or extract it
[06:25] <dbase13> how can i change the password of the nickname i registered?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> - /msg nickserv help
[06:26] <tony_> thanks guys..it worked
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  guess your work passed. :)
[06:26] <BTR> Hmm how come my laptop-speakers doesnt work?
[06:27] <Jucato> presuming he read my guide and not stdin's instructins ;)
 /msg nickserv set password <password>
[06:27] <jpiccolo> my new mounted hard drive does not have the right permisions
[06:29] <jpiccolo> look right -> /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     ext3    auto,user,exec,sync,rw   0       1
[06:29] <BTR> Someone please help me, my sound card : intel 82801DB-ICH4 doesnt work in linux:(
[06:42] <sebokie_> hello
[06:42] <sebokie_> i have a problem with samba share
[06:43] <sebokie_> i have added //<IP_ADDRESS>/E   /windows/winshare smbfs defaults,auto,users  0       0
[06:43] <sebokie_> to fstab
[06:43] <sebokie_> but when i start my session there is nothing in the winshare disk
[06:45] <rgil> buenas tardes
[06:45] <VSpike> sebokie can you make it work with the mount command from the command line?
[06:45] <sebokie_> yes
[06:45] <rgil> alguien me podria colaborar con la configuracion del sonido
[06:45] <iz4efn> sebokie_: I also had matters with that
[06:45] <amir__> How do I get my surround 5.1 to work?
[06:46] <iz4efn> the only way to have it working was adding that through webmmin
[06:46] <VSpike> sebokie_: it's a long time since I did it, but I seem to remember the syntax is subtly different in some way which is not obvious
[06:46] <iz4efn> sebokie_: I can give you my fstab hold on
[06:46] <rgil> alguien habla spanish
[06:46] <sebokie_> ok thx
[06:46] <VSpike> !es | rgil
[06:46] <ubotu> rgil: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:47] <jpatrick> rgil: a #kubuntu-es
[06:47] <sebokie_> what is webmmin?
[06:47] <rgil> necesito configurar el sonido 82801CA
[06:48] <iz4efn> /<IP_ADDRESS>/maxtor  /media/maxtor  smbfs  password=PASS,uid=1000,username=USER  0  0
[06:48] <sebokie_> thx
[06:48] <jpatrick> rgil: solo se puede hablar ingles por aqui, #kubuntu-es es para hispanohablantes
[06:48] <iz4efn> sorry: //192.....
[06:48] <sebokie_> i don't have any user or pass on my xp pc
[06:49] <sebokie_> i should put the same as you?
[06:50] <iz4efn> whith no password and username
[06:50] <iz4efn> i think it shoud work
[06:50] <iz4efn> but listen: have you tried manually?
[06:50] <iz4efn> I mean...besides fstab, have you tried mounting it from the shell to see if everythink is ok?
[06:50] <sebokie_> yes manually it works
[06:50] <iz4efn> ok, so forget the athentication stuff
[06:51] <iz4efn> and adapt that script :)
[06:51] <sebokie_> smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/E /windows/winshare works
[06:51] <sebokie_> i'm on wifi
[06:51] <sebokie_> i fear the system loads the smb before the wifi
[06:51] <sebokie_> could it be the problem?
[06:52] <shahed> it wont, it'll first uptain IP address then
[06:52] <shahed> in your /etc/rc5.d dir you can see the order it does things
[06:52] <sebokie_> ok
[06:53] <sebokie_> what's the uid?
[06:54] <shahed> where do you read it?
[06:54] <sebokie_> in man mount.smbfs
[06:54] <shahed> user id
[06:55] <sebokie_> but what is it? the name of the user of kubuntu?
[06:55] <shahed> your WINDOWS network user ID
[06:55] <shahed> no no
[06:55] <sebokie_> i don't have any win userid
[06:55] <shahed> the user you connect to the windows with
[06:55] <shahed> you're trying to mount to an XP machine?
[06:55] <sebokie_> yes
[06:55] <shahed> you don't have a user id to log in to your XP machine?
[06:56] <sebokie_> no
[06:56] <shahed> then leave it blank
[06:56] <shahed> or don't give it that option
[06:56] <sebokie_> what shall i pu in option then?
[06:56] <sebokie_> cause defaults does not work
[06:57] <shahed> fmask and dmask both as 777
[06:57] <sebokie_> ok
[06:57] <shahed> but
[06:57] <shahed> do you see the machine with smb?
[06:57] <sebokie_> yes
[06:58] <shahed> when you do a smbclient -L ipaddress do you see anything?
[06:58] <sebokie_> when i type smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/E /windows/winshare it works
[06:59] <sebokie_> yes i see all the info of my xp box
[06:59] <digijosh> hey whats up
[07:00] <shahed> so what doesn't work?
[07:00] <sebokie_> what does not work is, when i startup my computer, the folder /windows/winshare is empty
[07:01] <digijosh> is anyone else's mouse/kb (usb) turning off sporadically? I have to just unplug/replug and it comes back.
[07:01] <digijosh> i'm running on kde dapper drake.
[07:01] <shahed> you have a line for it in your /etc/fstab?
[07:01] <sebokie_> yes
[07:01] <sebokie_> /<IP_ADDRESS>/E   /windows/winshare smbfs defaults  0       0
[07:01] <sebokie_> with 2 //
[07:02] <shahed> and the icons for them don't even apear on your desktop?
[07:03] <sebokie_> yes they appear
[07:03] <sebokie_> but there's nothing in
[07:03] <mitch> hey, i'm truing out kubuntu for the first time and i'm trying to get my wireless to work...i had it working under ubuntu..but i get the following message in terminal...sudo: ./ndiswrapper_setup: command not found, when issuing the command...sudo ./ndiswrapper_setup....any idea why?
[07:03] <HymnToLife> !ndiswrapper | mitch
[07:03] <ubotu> mitch: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:03] <rene_> hm. if i start winecfg and click on audio wine crashes ... any idea?
[07:04] <nixternal> will someone ask a question i can answer :)
[07:04] <sivaji_2009> if all the softwares become free and open source how angineers can earn enough money
[07:04] <Jucato> nixternal: what is your name?
[07:04] <mitch> why did that command work in ubuntu terminal...but won't in kubuntu terminal?
[07:04] <nixternal> Jucato: come on, i have no clue :)
[07:04] <nixternal> mitch: are you in the correct directory?
[07:05] <nixternal> mitch: and if so, is the file executable?
[07:05] <mitch> yeah...it's on my desktop
[07:05] <mitch> it was in ubuntu
[07:05] <nixternal> chmod +x ndiswrapper_setup
[07:05] <Jucato> mitch: then you should be in you ~/Desktop folder
[07:05] <mitch> i am
[07:06] <mitch> nixternal: that worked thanks...what was the problem exactly?
[07:06] <Jucato> the file wasn't executable
[07:07] <mitch> is that something that happens under kubuntu...i don't remember having to do anything uner ubuntu
[07:07] <sebokie_> so what's not correct?
[07:08] <nixternal> mitch: i don't think is should have changed, but the switching of desktops could have mucked up something
[07:08] <digijosh> nixternal: i have a q :)
[07:08] <nixternal> uh oh
[07:08] <nixternal> ;)
[07:09] <digijosh> any idea why mouse/kb (usb) turns off sporadically
[07:09] <digijosh> not wireless.
[07:09] <digijosh> and the fix is just unplug/replug and everything is peachy again.
[07:09] <mitch> nixternal: ok thanks!
[07:09] <nixternal> wow, no idea as to why that would happen digijosh. have you checked dmesg for any errors at all?
[07:10] <digijosh> yeah i've checked and nothing
[07:10] <digijosh> google searches only come up with wireless errors...
[07:10] <chuen> Hi. Can someone give me (point me to) the skinny on 'wiping out' windows xp from my HD and installing Kubuntu from the Live CD?
[07:10] <nixternal> that is an odd one
[07:10] <digijosh> it is, it's my box here at work...it's a dell =\
[07:10] <sivaji_2009>  why linux professional cant modify the os to support .exe file ?
[07:10] <nixternal> chuen: just stick the disc in, reboot, and let kubuntu wipe it for you :)
[07:10] <nixternal> sivaji_2009: wine supports some .exe files
[07:11] <chuen> Ok. What 'option' does it give?
[07:11] <chuen> (IOW, how will I recognize it)
[07:11] <digijosh> chuen: it brings up the live cd which gives you the option to install
[07:11] <Dr_willis>  linux professional ?
[07:11] <sivaji_2009> why some exe why not all exe file
[07:11] <digijosh> chuen: it's all a GUI so it's safe. a monkey can't break it :)
[07:11] <digijosh> chuen: you'll be fine.
[07:11] <chuen> I'm a Monkey :)
[07:11] <digijosh> chuen: then you won't break it
[07:11] <Dr_willis> sivaji_2009,  library calls and other extra features.
[07:12] <chuen> (Chuen actually means monkey in the Mayan language!)
[07:12] <ubuntu_> how do you install flash in kubuntu (konqueror) ?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <digijosh> hehe
[07:12] <chuen> Hope it's not a bad omen :)
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !flash9
[07:12] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[07:12] <digijosh> chuen: nah make sure you log back in here to tell us how it went.
[07:12] <ubuntu_> ok thx
[07:12] <sivaji_2009> do u think linux is more intractive than mswindows?
[07:13] <chuen> OK. I've backed up most of my file to external HD - should be eable to do it over or after the weekend.
[07:13] <digijosh> nah...my kde is set up to look better than windoze
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Interactive?  what do you mean by that.
[07:13] <digijosh> err nvm
[07:13] <sivaji_2009> easy handling
[07:13] <sebokie_> can someone help me with that smbfs problem?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> You interact with the computer.. :)  I guess i interact more with my pc then i do my vcr...
[07:14] <Dr_willis> does that make my vcr better?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> no. its more specilized.
[07:14] <chuen> ok thanks for the tips . be back later.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Linux is a very flexiable os. and has lots of features and things that most people will never ever need to mess with.
[07:14] <sivaji_2009> why it is still under the dark
[07:15] <sivaji_2009> all the web games and software are exe based
[07:15] <digijosh> ?
[07:15] <digijosh> you mean why isn't linux as trendy as a pc or a mac?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> sivaji_2009,  that statement has just proven that you really need to go do some more reading.. and learn some basics
[07:16] <Dr_willis> 'exe based' means nothing
[07:16] <Dr_willis> or you are being a very bad troll.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> and i got to go to work..
[07:16] <digijosh> lol
[07:16] <Dr_willis> web games are often FLASH or Java based....  those do work fine in most cases under linux.
[07:16] <sivaji_2009> yes i need to learn basic of linux give any link
[07:16] <Dr_willis> google.com  = search for linux fundamentals
[07:17] <Dr_willis> come back in 4 days :) download some live cd's to test out after you read...  I got to go to work. byeeeeeeee
[07:17] <digijosh> en.wikipedia.org
[07:17] <digijosh> www.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <sivaji_2009> free and open source means engg will not be given any money for his work is it so ?
[07:19] <digijosh> well there are always sponsors/investors interested in funding a good project for a good cause
[07:19] <digijosh> but the end-user isn't being charged, no.
[07:19] <sivaji_2009> i got kubuntu 6.06 without any loss of data can i shift to kubuntu 6.10
[07:19] <digijosh> plus you can expand upon it or improve upon the coding
[07:19] <digijosh> yeah you can
[07:19] <digijosh> run update mgr
[07:19] <digijosh> or sudo apt-get update
[07:19] <nixternal> sivaji_2009: that is not true. granted a lot of open source people work for free, there are a lot of good paying open source jobs out thre
[07:19] <Jucato> getting a bit -offtopic guys. please continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <sebokie_> i have a problem with my fstab can someone please help me?
[07:21] <Jucato> ask your question. if somebody can help, they will
[07:22] <biff2> konqueror seems to have half-forgotten how to do dns resolution.
[07:22] <sebokie_> my smb share is empty on startup, although everything is fine with konsole
[07:22] <sivaji_2009> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ apt-get update
[07:22] <sivaji_2009> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:23] <biff2> sivaj: put a 'sudo' in front of that
[07:23] <biff2> sivaji_2009: you need to be root to do that, so either do "sudo apt-get update", or "sudo su -", then run your apt-get commands
[07:24] <sivaji_2009> ok
[07:25] <biff2> does anyone else have a konqueror which decided to not be able to do name lookups?  maybe it is a KDE thing?
[07:25] <sivaji_2009> how to install a package that has  .bin  file
[07:25] <Jucato> sivaji_2009: is that package made for Linux?
[07:25] <sivaji_2009> yes
[07:26] <sivaji_2009> actually it is web sphere studio app devloper
[07:26] <digijosh> apt-get usually installs everything for you
[07:26] <digijosh> if it's a .deb file then sudo dpkg -i nameofthefile.deb installs it as well
[07:27] <sivaji_2009> but it is not there in adept pacage list
[07:27] <biff2> did you download the .bin file from someone you trust?  you might be able to simply execute it.
[07:27] <digijosh> have you enabled all repositories?
[07:28] <Jucato> what's the name of the app?
[07:28] <sivaji_2009> yes there are totally 18500 app are there except what i need
[07:29] <chuen> digijosh (or anyoe) I have a question about installing from live cd
[07:29] <sivaji_2009> web sphere app dev
[07:29] <Jucato> maybe there's a Linux equivalent for the app
[07:29] <digijosh> whats up chuen
[07:29] <chuen> If I select the 'start or install' option, I only end up with kubuntu running from the cd.
[07:30] <chuen> How do I select an option t o install on my HD?
[07:30] <digijosh> chuen: thats the 'live' version..there should be an icon on the desktop that says install
[07:30] <chuen> doh!
[07:30] <digijosh> you just dbl click that icon and the wizard runs up and asks you to select options
[07:30] <Jucato> single click
[07:30] <chuen> let me have a look.
[07:30] <digijosh> single click :) yes
[07:31] <chuen> Oh yes, - there it is, larger than life :)
[07:31] <digijosh> if you want to keep windows...when gparted runs, don't erase entire disc
[07:31] <chuen> I've had it with Windows :)
[07:31] <digijosh> kk
[07:31] <chuen> So one option is 'erase entire disk'?
[07:32] <digijosh> yes...that will format your entire drive and install ubuntu on it
[07:32] <chuen> kk, thx.
[07:32] <dbase13> what do you guys think of Beryl? has anyone installed it?
[07:32] <biff2> what is beryl?
[07:33] <chuen> thanks again digijosh.
[07:33] <chuen> ttyl
[07:33] <digijosh> cya
[07:33] <sivaji_2009> is there any ide equivalent to ms visual studio
[07:33] <TheGateKeeper> chuen, the sensible option is to dual boot for a while, & when you are happy & comfortable with linux, then remove windows
[07:33] <dbase13> go to youtube.com and there search for beryl + ubuntu
[07:33] <dbase13> you'll see
[07:34] <chuen> Hi Gatekeeper. How do I go about removing Windows after selecting dualboot option?
[07:35] <digijosh> run gparted. erase that partition, and either set up a new partition or merge it with your existing
[07:35] <chuen> thx.
[07:35] <digijosh> welcome
[07:36] <dbase13> has anyone tried BERYL?
[07:36] <mortici> dbase13, i use it all the time
[07:36] <mortici> :)
[07:36] <chuen> Excuse my ignorance, but what;s the basic difference between 'erase' & 'merge'?
[07:36] <dbase13> erase = delete
[07:37] <dbase13> merge = put together with other partition
[07:37] <chuen> so when you merge you have more space accessible for you linux distro and files ?
[07:39] <digijosh> chuen: yes.
[07:39] <digijosh> you can always just create a new partition with the newly free'd space from windows and just use that partition for media files and stuff
[07:40] <sivaji_2009> how many percentage of people are using linux system ?
[07:40] <chuen> Great. Just a quick last one before <i try this. With dual boot, do I still have CD-Rom in drive and have BIOs set to reda that first?
[07:43] <digijosh> with your ubuntu install you also get GRUB...which allows you to choose what OS you want to boot at startup
[07:44] <dbase13> @ mortici: is beryl heavy?
[07:44] <dbase13> i mean, do you need recent hardware for it?
[07:44] <dbase13> and how did you install it?
[07:45] <dbase13> and is it stable?
[07:45] <tsdgeos> sivaji_2009: does that matter?
[07:46] <sivaji_2009> sivaji_2009: does that matter? i cant understand
[07:46] <chuen> thx (digijosh)
[07:46] <digijosh> welcome
[07:46] <tsdgeos> sivaji_2009: does the percentage of people using linux matter?
[07:47] <mortici> dbase13, not really, i have a laptop with a 1gz proc that runs in 600mhz most of the time, 64mb intel vid card, and luckly for me it came with 1gb of ram but could run it just fine with 512mb if not maybe less
[07:47] <mortici> as long as your vid card supports DRI
[07:47] <mortici> your fine :)
[07:47] <sivaji_2009> tell me how many percentage of people using linux system
[07:47] <sivaji_2009> tsdgeos
[07:47] <mortici> dbase13, i mean better hardware is always helpful, in speeding things up. but its not a monster of a ui :)
[07:47] <velle> is it possible to install Kubuntu without a graphical system? The comp will be used as a server, and accessed only via ssh
[07:48] <dbase13> hmmm
[07:48] <dbase13> can you tell me how you did it?
[07:48] <dbase13> cuz i found a tutorial
[07:48] <hatta> mortici, is beryl lighter than compiz then?
[07:48] <dbase13> but its kinda long
[07:48] <dbase13> :-)
[07:48] <mortici> dbase13, which vid card you using?
[07:48] <hatta> cause I had an athlon1800+ with a geforce4mx440 and compiz ran like ass on it
[07:49] <tsdgeos> sivaji_2009: does it matter? (and if you don't understand the sentence meaning use a dictionary instead of keeping asking the same)
[07:49] <mortici> hatta, never used compiz, as i have to use AIGLX to get the visuals to work
[07:49] <mortici> which is fine with me
[07:49] <sivaji_2009> yes
[07:49] <tsdgeos> sivaji_2009: why?
[07:50] <dbase13> is there something in Kubuntu like in mac osx where i can see my system specs?
[07:50] <mortici> hatta, i would think with the new nvidia drivers and beryl, you might be pleasently supprised
[07:50] <dbase13> got it
[07:50] <slarty> mortici: I second that, just installed beryl here (also using AIGLX) and it runs very nicely
[07:50] <sivaji_2009> all my friends are using ms_windows based system they dont consider linux as a os
[07:51] <hatta> the new nvidia drivers dont' seem to support the geforce4mx440
[07:51] <dbase13> Radeon Mobility 7500 32 Mb
[07:51] <mortici> hatta, ahh i see
[07:52] <mortici> dbase13, first thing first you need to install the open source ati drivers
[07:52] <hatta> it's not a great card for 3d
[07:52] <mortici> then i think you can only run xgl/beryl
[07:52] <hatta> great for zsnes on tv-out though :)
[07:52] <mortici> hatta, :)
[07:52] <esaym> isnt there a way to run e2fsck on a mounted FS?
[07:52] <dbase13> will my ati mobility 7500 32Mb do?
[07:52] <esaym> like e2fsck -n or something?
[07:52] <mortici> dbase13, then config your xorg.conf file, and finally do aptitude install beryl
[07:53] <mortici> dbase13, quite possibly yes, as long as it supports dri your fine :)
[07:53] <dbase13> it does :-)
[07:53] <mortici> good
[07:53] <dbase13> you know a good and simple tutorial
[07:53] <dbase13> ?
[07:53] <mortici> well then install the open source ati drivers
[07:54] <digijosh> brb
[07:54] <dbase13> fuck
[07:54] <mortici> dbase13, not really, the hardest part really is getting the drivers and xorg.conf
[07:54] <mortici> setup
[07:54] <dbase13> ok
[07:54] <dbase13> i'll fix it tonight
[07:54] <mortici> after that all it takes is for you to type: aptitude install beryl
[07:54] <dbase13> now i'm gonna grab a bite, and then party a lil :-)
[07:54] <mortici> in a shell
[07:54] <dbase13> okay
[07:54] <mortici> dbase13, :D
[07:54] <dbase13> thanks
[07:54] <dbase13> bye all
[07:54] <dbase13> have a nice weekend
[07:54] <mortici> bye :)
[07:55] <mortici> you too
[07:55] <mortici> is there anyway to rename devices, such as flash drives when you plug them in so it doesn't just say usbdisk?
[07:56] <nidal> hi all , sorrry to ask this question as its specific to XEN , but please suggest me something if anycan do that.  I have installed and configured xen 3.03 on kubuntu edgy. Now I am trying to install centos as a guest domain. everything is fine except when it prompted for the second CD, I inserted the cd. but it says "unable to access the cdrom"
[07:56] <nidal> i tried to mount and umount the cdrom , but its the same
[07:59] <mortici> nidal, did  you unmount before swapping discs?
[07:59] <nidal> no
[08:00] <blackflag> when somone want to give me support and need access to my machine what ssh- szenario is the best?
[08:00] <mortici> nidal, your installing Xen of a CD?
[08:01] <antonio_> ./flashpayer-installer
[08:01] <blackflag> ssh!
[08:01] <nidal> mortici, I installed and configured xen , there is no issue with that. but then I tried to install centos on top of xen as a guest domain at that time it started the installation with first centos cd. but when it prompted for the second centos cd its not accepting the cd
[08:02] <blackflag> !ssh
[08:02] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:02] <antonio_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:03] <mortici> nidal, ahhh ok so your trying to install centos
[08:03] <nidal> mortici, exactly
[08:05] <mortici> nidal, if you put any other cd, can you still view it even though it says it can't access the cdrom in the install app
[08:05] <nidal> mortici, yes I can see it through konqueror and all
[08:05] <animimotus> hi
[08:05] <nidal> mortici, i know it some issue with the xen config ,but cant figure out exactly
[08:06] <linuxserver> hello, does somebody use trickle, a bandwith shaper? -d rate doesnt work, maybe because of that message "trickle: Could not reach trickled, working independently: No such file or directory"?
[08:06] <animimotus> kalternatives is not in any official deposit ?
[08:06] <mortici> nidal, if it read the first disk through xen then it should have no problem with the second
[08:08] <blackflag> how can I create a second root user- account?
[08:09] <mortici> nidal, here try this in xen to swap cd's
[08:09] <ryantmer> How do you run the Opera web browser once it's installed?
[08:10] <mortici> go into qemu
[08:10] <mortici> by pressing ctrl+alt+2
[08:10] <mortici> then type: eject cdrom
[08:10] <ryantmer> Same question regarding Thunderbird, actually.
[08:11] <ryantmer> I've installed both, but I don't know how to run them...
[08:11] <mortici> change cdrom /dev/cdrom
[08:12] <mortici> after the eject cdrom switch the cd's
[08:13] <mortici> then type change cdrom /dev/cdrom
[08:13] <mortici> then hit ctrl+alt+1
[08:15] <nidal> mortici, what do you mean by swap in xen ?
[08:15] <BluesKaj> ryantmer, are they listed in the k-menu under internet ?
[08:15] <nidal> i didnt understand it correctly
[08:15] <mortici> nidal, your using xen to insall centos
[08:15] <mortici> right?
[08:16] <nidal> yes
[08:16] <mortici> ok well try this
[08:16] <nidal> ok, please tell
[08:16] <mortici> press ctrl+alt+2
[08:16] <mortici> that will get you to qemu
[08:16] <mortici> then type eject cdrom
[08:17] <mortici> if not try: eject /dev/cdrom
[08:17] <mortici> swap the discs
[08:17] <mortici> then type: change cdrom /dev/cdrom
[08:17] <mortici> that "should" work
[08:17] <mortici> if it doesn't i have no idea
[08:17] <ryantmer> BluesKaj: No, but I just made a shortcut to it on the Desktop.
[08:17] <ryantmer> (I think I figured it out...)
[08:17] <mortici> oh after you type the last line hit ctrl+alt+1
[08:17] <mortici> to go back to the install
[08:18] <indusparts> oi
[08:18] <nidal> mortici, its not working , but it says the following
[08:18] <mortici> how about eject hdc
[08:19] <nidal> HVM device model, type q to exit HVMXen device is not removable type 'q' to quit
[08:19] <BluesKaj> ryantmer, if you're still in the term or in pkg manager it prolly won't show upin the k-menu 'til you exit
[08:19] <mortici> nidal, type infoblock
[08:19] <mortici> and give me the output
[08:20] <ryantmer> BluesKaj: All I have open is Kopete and Konversation..
[08:20] <nidal> oh mortici, hda : type=hd removable=0 file=/usr/local/centos44-iso.ext3 ro=0 drv=raw
[08:20] <BluesKaj> hmm...how did you install Opera & T-Bird ?
[08:21] <nidal> hdc: type=cdrom removable=1 locked=0 [not inserted]
[08:21] <nidal> fda: type= floppy removable=1 locked=0 [not inserted]
[08:21] <mortici> so your img file is mounted to the hdd
[08:22] <nidal> mortici , pleaze tell me how to proceed ? :-)
[08:22] <nidal> i have no clue
[08:22] <mortici> nidal, lol thats the thing im learning about this as i go
[08:22] <nidal> lol
[08:22] <mortici> it seems that the centos iso file is mounted on the hda
[08:23] <nidal> you want to see the line in config file ?
[08:23] <ryantmer> BluesKaj: I did Opera through the Adept Package Manager, and I did Thunderbird with this: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Install_script_Thunderbird_1.5
[08:23] <nidal> disk = ['file:/usr/local/centos44-iso.ext3,ioemu:hda,w','file:/usr/local/centos44-iso.iso,hdc:cdrom,r']
[08:23] <nidal> mortici , is there anything wrong with that ?
[08:23] <mortici> nidal, lemme see
[08:24] <nidal> thanx indeed mortici, i will wait
[08:24] <mortici> nidal, ok try this, do you have the 2nd cd iso img?
[08:24] <nidal> no, but I can create it
[08:25] <mortici> nidal but you do have an iso of the first disk right?
[08:26] <nidal> yes I do have
[08:26] <mortici> ok make the iso for the second this, and once you have it
[08:26] <mortici> type
[08:27] <mortici> change cdrom d:/tmp/yourcdrom.iso
[08:27] <nidal> i am making it now
[08:27] <mortici> or whatever the path is to the iso img
[08:27] <nidal> from where ? normal konsole ? or the qemu window ?
[08:27] <mortici> qemu window
[08:28] <ironfroggy> how does OOo decide where my printer is?
[08:28] <ironfroggy> i cant seem to find anything about configuring it to use my cups server.
[08:28] <mortici> then if everything goes ok, hit ctrl+alt+1 and try and continue with the install
[08:28] <nidal> mortici, I am waiting for the image to be created, but please tell me what did I do wrong to happen this ? rather than a  smooth centos install with cds inserted one by one?
[08:29] <ironfroggy> is there a standard place locally that holds configuration for cups clients?
[08:30] <ironfroggy> does OOo even use cups?
[08:30] <mortici> nidal, im not sure, but as far as i know xen requires iso images of the OS's you want to install, it appears that your config pointed to a iso img for installation, which is fine, but when the app looked for the second disk the iso img didn't exist
[08:32] <mortici> oh nidal have you tried, change hdc /dev/cdrom
[08:32] <mortici> then continue with the install directly from the cd
[08:32] <nidal> mortici , from where ? qemu window ?
[08:33] <mortici> qemu yes
[08:33] <nidal> mortici, I have executed the following command in qemu and it gave a succes prompt
[08:33] <nidal> change hdc /dev/cdrom
[08:34] <ggintas> heloo
[08:34] <mortici> ok
[08:34] <mortici> hit ctrl+alt+1
[08:34] <mortici> and try to continue the install
[08:34] <nidal> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mortici, you are incredible !!!!
[08:34] <nidal> itw taken
[08:35] <nidal> how it will prompt for the third cd also , so what shall I do then ?
[08:35] <mortici> same thing
[08:35] <mortici> ctrl+alt+2
[08:35] <mortici> eject cdrom
[08:35] <mortici> change the disk
[08:36] <mortici> change hdc /dev/cdrom
[08:36] <mortici> ctrl+alt+1
[08:36] <mortici> or you might have to do eject hdc
[08:36] <nidal> ok , let me see
[08:36] <mortici> im not sure
[08:37] <cloakable> How much ram would i need for a basic kde install (kde-core)
[08:38] <mortici> 256
[08:38] <mortici> i think
[08:38] <mortici> if not less
[08:38] <cloakable> Ahh
[08:38] <cloakable> With no kdm?
[08:39] <mortici> i think so
[08:39] <cloakable> Damn :P
[08:39] <mortici> i would ask in #kde
[08:40] <mortici> to verify
[08:40] <cloakable> I wanted to try kde on my older laptop :P
[08:40] <mortici> it would work
[08:40] <cloakable> Currently 128MB RAM, max 192 :P
[08:40] <mortici> id run fluxbox on any really old laptop
[08:40] <mortici> cloakable, it will work on it
[08:40] <mortici> as long as you do the basic install
[08:40] <mortici> no fancy shmancy visuals :)
[08:41] <cloakable> mortici: Yeah, but fluxbox doesn't have any smb browsers :(
[08:41] <mortici> :( just use kde's :P
[08:41] <cloakable> Konqueror is great on the network.
[08:41] <mortici> install kde
[08:41] <cloakable> Yeah, but installing Konqueror = installing kde :P
[08:41] <mortici> buyt use fluxbox
[08:41] <mortici> and use konq on flux
[08:41] <nidal> mortici, i did the same thing and it took the third cd and installation is over successfully.
[08:42] <mortici> nidal, good :) im glad
[08:42] <cloakable> Konq has a dep on kdelibs :P
[08:42] <mortici> cloakable, then install kdelibs
[08:42] <nidal> mortici, many many thanx indeed for your great help . I appreciate it with full heart
[08:42] <mortici> i mean you can install all of kde, but your WM is gonna be fluxbox
[08:42] <mortici> so you just use whatever you need from kde in flux
[08:42] <cloakable> mortici: That has deps on KDE :P
[08:42] <mortici> nidal, not a problem lol, i learned something my self :)
[08:42] <nidal> I have to say that I have good great help from all the time I have been to kubuntu channel and this was even better
[08:43] <cloakable> Won't htat do bad things to my memory?
[08:43] <mortici> cloakable, no, be cause you only run CERTAIN kde things, all of KDE doesn't load then, saving memory
[08:43] <nidal> let me ask you one last doubt(still curious) , what is this ctr+ alt +1 and ctl + alt +2 combs ?
[08:43] <mortici> since fluxbox uses like what a nano bit of ram lol
[08:43] <cloakable> Ahhh.
[08:43] <cloakable> Yeah :)
[08:43] <mortici> nidal, thats to get in and out of qemu
[08:44] <mortici> :)
[08:44] <cloakable> So I'll save ram over using kde?
[08:44] <mortici> cloakable, yes, since thats what your worried about
[08:44] <mortici> hell you can even get kicker to work in flux :P
[08:44] <cloakable> mortici: Hell yeah :P if you were limited to 192MB RAM, wouldn't you worry about it? :P
[08:45] <mortici> indeed i would
[08:45] <nidal> thanx mortici again, I am really happy indeed, bye for now
[08:45] <mortici> nidal, not a prob, enjoy :D
[08:45] <mortici> bye
[08:45] <mortici> cloakable, i would say install kde and make a nice swap  partition, that should help your ram situation :P
[08:45] <nidal> bye, you guys are doing a wonderful job by providing free support for a free OS
[08:46] <mortici> nidal, thats what were here for :P
[08:46] <nidal> :)
[08:46] <cloakable> mortici: yeah, but not the chug-chug-chug situation when I USE that RAM :P
[08:46] <cloakable> *swap
[08:46] <mortici> cloakable, if not then install kde, and fluxbox/openbox/whateverbox, and run that as your WM then use whatever kde apps you need
[08:47] <mortici> cloakable, swap is as fast as your HDD :P
[08:47] <mortici> put a turbo on it lol
[08:47] <cloakable> :P
[08:47] <mortici> i say those are your 2 best options :)
[08:48] <mortici> full kde with a nice swap part, or kde+fluxbox :)
[08:48] <mortici> or openbox
[08:48] <mortici> or whichever box you prefer
[08:48] <cloakable> mortici: I'll probably install ubuntu server, get a working fluxbox install, then install konqueror :P And grit my teeth as my HDD fills with programs :P
[08:53] <mortici> :D
[08:53] <mortici> cloakable, sounds just right :P
[08:53] <cloakable> Heh
[08:53] <ryantmer> For installing Thunderbird, once I have typed "sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird", what do I do?
[08:54] <cloakable> ryantmer: type thunderbird :P
[08:54] <ryantmer> Doesn't run anything though O_o
[08:54] <ryantmer> Just pauses, and goes to a new line
[08:54] <cloakable> Ahh
[08:56] <Bubba_Gump> what seems to be the easiest way to connect msn?
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm?
[08:57] <Bubba_Gump> i have used kmess and kopete
[08:57] <ryantmer> In Kubuntu? Kopete
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> kopete is the best one available
[08:57] <Bubba_Gump> okay
[08:57] <Bubba_Gump> it does not connect
[08:58] <Bubba_Gump> i have connected using the account with windows messenger (on XP)
[08:59] <Bubba_Gump> ahh
[08:59] <Bubba_Gump> my firewall :D
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> there you go :)
[08:59] <mortici> lol
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> sometimes you just need a sounding board to work out the problem :D
[08:59] <Bubba_Gump> oh yeah :D
[08:59] <chuen> Oh well, I did it - got rid of Windows and installed Kubuntu! Scary, but OK so far (3 mins!)
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> chuen: i did that two months ago, and i dread having to use the windows machines at school now
[09:00] <chuen> LOL
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> as long as there are no "absolute must-have" windows-only apps, you'll be just fine
[09:01] <zudokai> hm..
[09:01] <chuen> A bit newbie-ish I know, but I'm used to Firefox. Any info on how to install?
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> in kubuntu?
[09:01] <mortici> Daisuke_Ido, which there aren't, what ms office, phuleeeze, Open Office FTMFW :)
[09:01] <zudokai> when i do dpkg-deb -x filename.deb is there anything more i need for it to extract it to my current folder?r
[09:01] <chuen> Yes.
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> it should install automatically
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> check in the k menu under internet
[09:01] <chuen> ok one sec.
[09:01] <mortici> chuen, open up a shell, type sudo apt-get intsall firefox
[09:01] <Daisuke_Ido> defaults to konqueror
[09:02] <Daisuke_Ido> but hey, it's not bad either
[09:02] <mortici> i gotta get ready for work
[09:02] <mortici> ttyl guys :D
[09:02] <chuen> I'm just used to the addons in FF :)
[09:02] <chuen> thx mortici
[09:02] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, i am too
[09:03] <Daisuke_Ido> DownThemAll, googlecustomize, video downloader, adblock plus, etc. etc.
[09:03] <Daisuke_Ido> take care, mortici
[09:03] <mortici> ttyl Daisuke_Ido, chuen
[09:03] <chuen> thx ttyl
[09:04] <Daisuke_Ido> chuen: for the most part, if it works on FF in windows, it will work on FF here (shockwave being one of the few exceptions)
[09:14] <Rob-West> someone amuse me
[09:14] <rene_> hi. a friend of mine installed kubuntu 64 today and now used an old sources.list (kubuntu i386) and updated over 80 packets today ... i fear that 64bit will have different repositories .. .right?
[09:14] <jota> nas
[09:16] <mitch_> nixternal: what was the command again to make a script executable?
[09:16] <rene_> so what about that idea: you give me a sources.list of 64bit kubuntu, i give it to him and he does apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and hopes that everything will be fine
[09:16] <cloakable> mitch_: chmod +x <file>
[09:17] <mitch_> thanks
[09:17] <cloakable> no problem
[09:18] <reagleBRKLN> is there a list/blog/etc for reading about updates in the repository, e.g., all the libavahi updates in security
[09:18] <reagleBRKLN> for edgy
[09:24] <ValMarko> I just got the cd I requested : Kubuntu 6.06.1 but I'm having problems installing my usb modem (sagem 800 f@st). I used the script ueagle-1.3.sh on Ubuntu 6.10 and it worked well. Could someone help me?
[09:25] <chuen> Hi. I asked this a while back, but lost the info. I've just installed Kubuntu and need to install Firefox. What's the command again, please?
[09:26] <adz21c> sudo apt-get install firefox i presume
[09:26] <chuen> ok. will try that, thx
[09:26] <chuen> had the sytax wrong :)
[09:26] <adz21c> np :-)
[09:26] <chuen> syntax even :)
[09:27] <adz21c> u can use a gui for installing packages unless you prefer cli
[09:27] <chuen> how do I locate that?
[09:27] <chuen> was going to use shell.
[09:28] <adz21c> the gui? well there are 2 i personally know of, synaptic and adept .... i prefer synaptic, but adept is still ok really, both have pros and cons
[09:29] <adz21c> aptitude has a cli ui ... instead of one line commands like apt-get
[09:29] <chuen> ok, i'll experiment a bit. It's early days (minutes, really).
[09:29] <adz21c> oh right cool
[09:32] <chuen> OK, next dumb question. Now that I've installed it, where is it likely to have been installed and how do I create the equivalent of a shortcut for desktop?
[09:32] <tommymann> is anyone running kxdocker, because my radio buttons for alignment other than bottom are greyed out
[09:33] <tommymann> ?
[09:33] <tommymann> anyone?
[09:33] <adz21c> chuen: your menu should get updated and it will be located under internet
[09:33] <nalioth> chuen: in your console, ln --help  or man ln
[09:34] <adz21c> chuen: you can then just drag the icon direct from the menu to your desktop, in a copy like fasion it should appear there
[09:34] <chuen> Oh yes, I'm blind Thx az21c.
[09:34] <adz21c> np :)
[09:35] <tommymann> anyone know anything about kxdocker?
[09:36] <tommymann> somebody?
[09:36] <adz21c> never used it myself but whats your issue?
[09:36] <tommymann> well the radio buttons for anyother alignment than bottom are greyed out
[09:37] <tommymann> so I can't change alignment
[09:37] <tommymann> and right now it's behind the bar
[09:37] <tommymann> and useless
[09:38] <tommymann> I was wondering if it was just a kubuntu thing
[09:38] <adz21c> well beats me, sorry, but maybe someone else may chime in, on the other hand you tried looking for their developer irc channel or something, they may yeild answers
[09:38] <tommymann> their website is astoundingly useless
[09:40] <faeryNatsuki> i need a little help, i need the notifications sound working on gnome but they does not work, how can i launch the sound system in gnome? (i don't mean arts, notifications in KDe are working without arts and i don't need arts)
[09:41] <faeryNatsuki> i know it is a notification system problem because amarok works, and because when i restart the sound system notifications work
[09:42] <faeryNatsuki> or i need something to replace kopete in my system
[09:43] <adz21c> faeryNatsuki: maybe the people in #ubuntu will know, i think they have better gnome knowledge
[09:44] <adz21c> faeryNatsuki: i think
[09:44] <faeryNatsuki> but the problem is related to kde notification system
[09:44] <faeryNatsuki> not gnome
[09:44] <adz21c> ok, explain again cos i obviously don't get you :-)
[09:45] <gnarly_buttons> Need some help - my music player only plays for 30-60 seconds and then stops...any ideas? I once worked properly.
[09:46] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: what player is this?
[09:46] <faeryNatsuki> OK, I use Gnome, in Gnome i use amarok, kopete and k3b, the sound of music in amarok works, but the notifications of KNotify dopes not work, until i launch kcontrol in gnome and manually start the sound system from that control panel, after that works works OK, if i start KDe all sound was ok, but i need it working too in gnome
[09:46] <gnarly_buttons> happens with both xmms and amarok
[09:47] <faeryNatsuki> then if somebody sends me a msessage in kopete or k3b finish to burn a Cd i didn't notice it becasue there's no sound
[09:48] <faeryNatsuki> then, i uninstalled arts, KDE sound system works without arts and use ESD or ALSa instead, and works well, then it's not anything related to arts
[09:48] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: tried changing the backends?
[09:48] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: how do I do that?  (what does that mean?)
[09:49] <Jordan_U> I am actually using konqueror in gnome, but I figure this is the right place to ask: I have flash installed for firefox, I was told that to get knoqueror to use that to: "In the menu, select "Settings -> Configure Konqueror". Click "Plugins" (the last item in the icon menu the the left". Click on the button "Scan for new Plugins"." But I don't see a "Plugins" Icon on the left menu
[09:49] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: amarok can use xine or something else to play the actual music
[09:50] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: ok, well I want to mention that I do get an error with amarok, something about sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting
[09:50] <fdoving> Jordan_U: it's second from the bottom here.. you need to scroll down.
[09:50] <ryantmer> Once I used Adept Manager to install Thunderbird, how do I run it? I tried "thunderbird" from a konsole, but it didn't do anything...
[09:50] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: that sounds like arts to me ... i think lol, try using something else
[09:50] <Jordan_U> fdoving: I have scrolled down, and it's not ?
[09:51] <gnarly_buttons> yeah, it did say artsmessage error
[09:51] <fdoving> Jordan_U: strange, it's there on both my computers.
[09:51] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: when I look at my Sound System, it only gives the option of xine
[09:52] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: output plugin, select alsa or something like that
[09:52] <faeryNatsuki> then what i need to know is what is the app, daemon or anything that i need to start in gnome to use sound system?
[09:53] <Jordan_U> Is it possible that there is another KDE dependency required for Netscape plugin support that is not pulled in by konqueror alone?
[09:53] <faeryNatsuki> i'll be back n a few seconds
[09:53] <adz21c> faeryNatsuki: to be honest I am stumped its not something i ever come across before :-) I only used gnome for a short period and prefered kde
[09:53] <gnarly_buttons> ady21c: I'm testing it with alsa
[09:54] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: brb
[09:54] <faeryNatsuki> but what i'm asking for is the KDE app to start the KDE sound system
[09:55] <Rob-West> nixternal
[09:55] <||arifaX> how can I remove the latest firefox update (<IP_ADDRESS>). I want to go back to old version because I have problems with it (edgy)
[09:55] <faeryNatsuki> ok, then, where can i look for services and apps and things launched at KDE startup?
[09:56] <fdoving> Jordan_U: yes, check if you have 'konqueror-nsplugins'
[09:56] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: bk
[09:56] <nixternal> Rob-West: whats up
[09:56] <noiesmo> ||arifaX, if you have the deb of older version in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you can use sudo aptitude install firefoxoldversion.deb
[09:56] <Rob-West> nm man
[09:57] <Jordan_U> fdoving: Nope :) Installing now, thanks.
[09:58] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: It still has that problem except now it just froze and won't close (before it would close)
[09:58] <||arifaX> noiesmo: ahh I'll try that
[09:58] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: haha oh dear, scratch that idea then
[09:59] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: still gave that error about cpu overload
[09:59] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: what engine do you use for xmms?
[09:59] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: I don't know.  I'm not sure how to even check that. Just tried.
[10:00] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: no problem, i don't know either i only really use amarok
[10:00] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: I thought it was strange since it happens with both players.
[10:01] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: could be xine i guess
[10:01] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: if they both using xine
[10:02] <noiesmo> ||arifaX, :)
[10:02] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: I'm not sure, but it might have happened when I installed amarok with automatix to get the mp3 capability.
[10:02] <||arifaX> noiesmo: that worked wonderful!
[10:02] <||arifaX> noiesmo: thanks again
[10:02] <noiesmo> ||arifaX, np
[10:03] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: yea automatix been evil to me sometimes
[10:03] <lupine_85> gnarly_buttons: why on earth did you do that? Amarok *asks* you if you want to have MP3 support installed
[10:04] <lupine_85> it's libxine-extracodecs , anyway (and make sure kdemultimedia is installed)
[10:04] <gnarly_buttons> lupine_85: Someobody here told me to do that
[10:04] <gnarly_buttons> lupine_85: Can I just remove and reinstall something?
[10:06] <lupine_85> apt-get install --reinstall <something>
[10:06] <gnarly_buttons> lupine_85: is that a joke?
[10:07] <lupine_85> no. that removes then installs <something> for you
[10:07] <lupine_85> but since you installed automatix, you're probably screwed anyway
[10:07] <adz21c> well personally i would say your better off removing the stuff you installed, getting rid of the repos automatix added and try again with just the standard repos
[10:08] <Jordan_U> !automatix
[10:08] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:08] <gnarly_buttons> adz21c: thanks, I will try to remove all that
[10:08] <adz21c> might be worth renaming config files to just so diff version config files don't get in the way
[10:08] <gnarly_buttons> this is getting complicated
[10:09] <adz21c> gnarly_buttons: :) lifes a bitch
[10:09] <gnarly_buttons> wish me luck
[10:10] <gnarly_buttons> I'll probably be back when it all crashes in on me
[10:10] <gnarly_buttons> bye
[10:10] <adz21c> :P
[10:10] <adz21c> later
[10:12] <frojnd> hello
[10:12] <Rizado> anyone know what to do about crazy log messages from pppoe?
[10:13] <frojnd> what's the good live cd with xgl installed or running automaticly?
[10:13] <Rizado> [85008.006347]  ''IN-internet':'IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=64 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=46 ID=25965 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3313 DPT=6881 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[10:13] <Rizado> I get thousands of these
[10:14] <Rizado> and it's driving me crazy not being able to read anything from dmesg because of these
[10:20] <pike_> Rizado: do you have a pppd.pid file in etc?
[10:20] <Rizado> umm I'l check
[10:20] <Rizado> nope
[10:21] <Rizado> there's nothing called that at all
[10:21] <pike_> ah you asked about pppoe anyway.  didnt mean to get your hopes up ;p
[10:21] <Rizado> :/ okey
[10:22] <Rizado> well I think it has something to do with my isp
[10:22] <Rizado> and I'm getting a new one soon so hope it'll fix itself
[10:25] <ryantmer> Once I have installed Thunderbird using this method: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Install_script_Thunderbird_1.5
[10:25] <ryantmer> How do I run it/what else do I have to do to run it?
[10:25] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:27] <frojnd> so everybody... any live cd that support XGL ?
[10:27] <Rizado> no?
[10:28] <Rizado> oh atleast not ubuntu
[10:28] <Rizado> not sure about any else but I doubt it because of what's required
[10:28] <jordo23> Is there a way to take away the exit button in the top right of an application in KDE?
[10:28] <jordo23> I.e. If I want to have Kontact open on a desktop and not be able to exit from the button
[10:28] <JosefK> frojnd, none that I know of, but it's reasonable (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06) to think you could "roll your own"
[10:30] <danielches> hi]
[10:31] <danielches> i need help installing kubuntu
[10:31] <adz21c> jordo23: you can customise the buttons in "Window Decorations" I believe, and there is a section for window specific behaviour (so only certain windows like say the kontact main window) will act in a certain way .... maybe you can find something there
[10:32] <danielches> when i try and install kubuntu i get: "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 177903"
[10:33] <Rizado> sure your drive isn't broken?
[10:33] <adz21c> danielches: i got that on a friends laptop .... i had to sit there for like 10 mins then the live CD just booted .... I was only using live CD though, i wasn't installing so i dunno about that
[10:33] <danielches> so, u just left it
[10:33] <danielches> then it worked
[10:33] <danielches> the cd reads fine when i view it on Suse
[10:33] <danielches> it just wont boot
[10:33] <adz21c> yea, i thought it was broke and walked off pissed off came back and it was just there
[10:34] <danielches> some the errors just covered screen, then it finally worked?
[10:34] <adz21c> yea
[10:34] <sten_> hi, is there a possibility to reinstall x?
[10:34] <danielches> :)
[10:34] <danielches> thx
[10:34] <adz21c> its was like it said screw it lets do it anyway
[10:34] <adz21c> but like i said thats live cd not install and i didn't install after .... data recovery :)
[10:34] <Rizado> STEN try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-org"
[10:34] <Rizado> or something like that
[10:35] <Rizado> it will reconfigure x
[10:35] <sten_> my problem is that i seem to be missen the whole display
[10:35] <sten_> so would it help?
[10:35] <Rizado> yeah
[10:36] <Rizado> run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:36] <jontec> okay, so I need some advice. I just read an article in the forums about my current wireless card: it's not compatible with the generic kubuntu setup. A guy showed a way to setup his card (same card, different laptop manuafacturer). Will the windows device drivers for his card (which he posted) work or will I have to use the one provided by my laptop manufacturer (his was a dell, and mine a gateway). Also, I am under the
[10:36] <jontec> impression that he had a 32-bit machine, I'm on a 64-bit machine, will the steps still work?
[10:37] <Rizado> STEN: it that command will rewrite your configfile and try to autodetect the screens just like when you install
[10:37] <Rizado> I think...
[10:38] <sten_> ok, thanks i will try it
[10:40] <slow-motion> re
[10:40] <BTR> Hi, what app can i use to open .rar's with?
[10:40] <Rizado> unrar
[10:40] <Dannilion> unrar
[10:40] <Rizado> BTR unrar
[10:40] <Rizado> enable multiverse and run "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[10:41] <wilman> when i try playing midi with xmms when the midi ends the xmms chrashes
[10:42] <bobleny> How do I change my screen size, it's stuck on 640 x 480?
[10:42] <frojnd> so everybody... any live cd that support XGL ?
[10:42] <jontec_> if anyone answered to me, please resend.... T_T  I got disconnected
[10:43] <tommymann> hey on google it shows a dictionary applet on kicker, does anyone know where I can get it. I can't find it on adept or kde-apps
[10:43] <pike_> !fixres| bob
[10:43] <ubotu> bob: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:43] <pike_> bobleny: ^
[10:43] <pike_> aww
[10:44] <Rizado> Is there any updates to kde in edgy? I mean any new version, like 3.5.6 or something
[10:44] <tommymann> anyone know where I can get a dictionary applet for the kicker?