[06:39] <e4gl3> :P
[06:39] <farous> no
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> mikebot, i see on the mfg page... "18. Will the modem work with any computer operating system?
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> Yes. This modem will work with any operating system. "
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> so that is good news
[06:39] <e4gl3> ok i might brb it could crash ma gnome again
[06:39] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: ok cool
[06:40] <farous> in your home dir rm -rf .foldername
[06:40] <Eclipse_GSX> ...
[06:40] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: and i know my card works, because up at school ubuntu worked on the lan
[06:40] <e4gl3> stil dont work
[06:40] <e4gl3> farous i was being stupid sorry :P i wouldnt use * :P
[06:40] <e4gl3> but i delled the dir
[06:40] <e4gl3> and its still not working in this account
[06:40] <farous> e4gl3: ok :)
[06:40] <linuxuser> anyone in here install vmware player on ubuntu?
[06:41] <snooplsm> can someone point me to a good sources.list file?
[06:41] <e4gl3> so i guess i have to log onto the other account to record
[06:41] <e4gl3> :S
[06:41] <e4gl3> that kinda sux
[06:41] <farous> e4gl3: told you tracking the prob might tke a long time that is why i recommended just using another account
[06:41] <farous> e4gl3: why not use the other account perm. just move your stuff there
[06:42] <e4gl3> i dont want to.. i want this account :P
[06:42] <e4gl3> lol
[06:42] <e4gl3> i just dont know where to look hehe
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> mikebot, what state?
[06:42] <bobbyw> snooplsm: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> er, area code
[06:42] <linuxuser> anyone have experience with vmware player on ubuntu?
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:42] <mikebot> 818
[06:42] <e4gl3> wth is gtsk.lock
[06:43] <zcat[1] > a lockfile?
[06:44] <e4gl3> do i delete all gnusound stuff from my home dir?
[06:44] <thanatos> how do i change+adjust the audio device for flash
[06:45] <Cntryboy> what yahoo client is flood protection proof ect.. Gaim and gyach both gets booted easyyy.
[06:45] <farous> e4gl3: only config files might help
[06:45] <e4gl3> its in my gnome2
[06:45] <e4gl3> as well
[06:45] <m3talc0re> thanatos...
[06:45] <farous> e4gl3: am afraid also i do not think i can add more
[06:45] <farous> e4gl3: no do not do that
[06:45] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[06:45] <Alpha232> Mornin..  if i follow the upgrade instructions to go from Breezy to Dapper, will it replace my config files?  and also is there a dist that is ment for servers with all the debug and console stuff directed to com1?
[06:45] <e4gl3> didnt think so :P
[06:45] <e4gl3> oh well
[06:45] <e4gl3> thanks for ure help :P
[06:45] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: you still there?
[06:45] <linuxuser> vmware player on ubuntu, anyone get it installed?
[06:46] <e4gl3> time to change accounts i gues
[06:46] <thanatos> n3talc0re
[06:46] <nomasteryoda> mikebot, ya
[06:46] <thanatos> m3talc0re
[06:46] <nomasteryoda> looking
[06:46] <m3talc0re> smf thantos?
[06:46] <farous> e4gl3: gconf-editor
[06:46] <thanatos> ?
[06:46] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: ok, sorry
[06:46] <farous> e4gl3: then scroll to applications
[06:46] <m3talc0re> nevermind then
[06:46] <Cntryboy> what yahoo client is flood protection proof ect.. Gaim and gyach both gets booted easyyy.
[06:46] <farous> e4gl3: scroll to your program and see the config for it might find your prob there
[06:47] <thanatos> how do i change+adjust the audio device for flash
[06:47] <nomasteryoda> mikebot, try <IP_ADDRESS> ... in firefox
[06:47] <thanatos> any1
[06:47] <farous> thanatos: what do you mean by change adjust
[06:48] <nomasteryoda> this modem saves your password and username stuff so it should be "plug-n-play"
[06:48] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: same, unable to connect
[06:48] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: it isn';t auto connect though--or at least in windows, i have to open SBCIS and click connect
[06:48] <thanatos> i have 2 sound cards, how do i change which 1 flash uses, and how do i adjust the volume for it
[06:48] <robbrown> can i have someone's opinion?: is this file corrupt/broken?: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/harvest/harvest-1.9.9.tar.bz2
[06:49] <nomasteryoda> mikebot, ok. so you need a pppoE client in the middle
[06:49] <nomasteryoda> http://www.hellspark.com/dm/linux/pbdslhowto.html
[06:49] <karl> there is an x app like synergy for sharing keyboards, anyone know what it is called?
[06:49] <nomasteryoda> x2vnc
[06:50] <Alpha232> harvest and festival rock
[06:50] <nomasteryoda> karl, i used to use that one
[06:50] <ubuntu_> fhgfhfhyutrydjjvcnfghfhcnc
[06:50] <e4gl3> bah forget it :P
[06:50] <Alpha232> dog bless you ubuntu_
[06:50] <snooplsm> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:50] <snooplsm>   java-package: Depends: debhelper but it is not going to be installed
[06:50] <e4gl3> its obviously not meant to work on this account
[06:50] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: is that link for me?
[06:50] <WiseOdd> hi all :) anybody knows how to do a windows style "quick format". tired of waiting all night for the disc to format :)
[06:50] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:50] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: ah, let me try it
[06:51] <snooplsm> how can I get debhelper?
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> the dsl info ... pppoe
[06:51] <e4gl3> lol wise odd.. format c: /q
[06:51] <WiseOdd> in linux...
[06:51] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: so i need another program for ubuntu?
[06:51] <karl> can anyone tell me how to change my mouse sensativity?
[06:51] <robbrown> karl, what to?
[06:51] <ubuntu_> fghh
[06:51] <robbrown> :)
[06:51] <karl> something lower :_
[06:51] <karl> :)
[06:51] <ubuntu_> who is chat whith me
[06:51] <nomasteryoda> it would seem so... but should be simple enough
[06:51] <BoukenBelle> Mkay... So, I just installed Ubuntu from a Breezy CD seeing as I couldn't get any Dapper CDs to work... and then I updated it to Dapper, and now it won't connect to the internet, and I don't really know what to do about it... plog says this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18908 ... any ideas, anyone? :D
[06:52] <snoops> karl system>preferences>mouse>movement
[06:52] <robbrown> is anyone trying to help me? just wondering....
[06:52] <e4gl3> err good questeion in linux
[06:52] <WiseOdd> e4gl3: in linux... the old dos & win ways are no secret to me :)
[06:52] <e4gl3> sorry :P
[06:52] <farous> thanatos: i am afraid i never played with two sound cards here. for changing the volume that is dependednt on the streaming site but normally you will see the controls
[06:52] <karl> using kubuntu snoops
[06:52] <WiseOdd> e4gl3: np :)
[06:52] <karl> i guess i should ask there, then
[06:52] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: yikes, ok, i'll try this
[06:52] <karl> i thought it would be an xorg thing
[06:52] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: thanks for the help
[06:52] <nomasteryoda> mikebot, look here too... and good luck.. time to sleep
[06:52] <snoops> karl ah right... well err.. settings menu?
[06:52] <farous> thanatos: for virtual sound mixing though i use alsa-oss and run firefox as aoss firefox
[06:52] <nomasteryoda> http://tinyurl.com/fkzvy
[06:52] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: ok, thanks a bunch
[06:52] <nomasteryoda> mikebot, that url is for you too
[06:52] <Alpha232> ahhh the sounds of /dev/urandom
[06:53] <nomasteryoda> k
[06:53] <nomasteryoda> l.ol
[06:53] <karl> i looked there snoops...they have accelleration, but no actual sensativity/speed
[06:53] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: i appreciate your help
[06:53] <mikebot> nomasteryoda: have a good one
[06:53] <nomasteryoda> np
[06:53] <e4gl3> well thanks for ure help guys
[06:53] <thanatos> the sound is 2 quiet, adjusting the volume control does not work, does any1 know where i can change the settings for flashplugin-nonfree
[06:53] <e4gl3> at least i have it working somewhere now
[06:53] <e4gl3> lol
[06:54] <WiseOdd> lets try it again...: does any1 know how to do a win style "quickformat" in ubuntu linux?
[06:54] <snoops> ah right there's a sensativity bar next to accelleration in the ubuntu one karl
[06:54] <mborohovski> anyone ever set up a subversion server / repository? if so, could you help me?
[06:54] <WiseOdd> !format > WiseOdd
[06:56] <Alpha232> Mornin..  if i follow the upgrade instructions to go from Breezy to Dapper, will it replace my config files?  and also is there a dist that is ment for servers with all the debug and console stuff directed to com1?
[06:56] <WiseOdd> somebody plz help the n00b...
[06:57] <Alpha232> WiseOdd: which noob?
[06:57] <WiseOdd> alpha: me....
[06:57] <Alpha232> oh
[06:57] <WiseOdd> alpha: do you know how to do a win style "quickformat" on ubuntu linux?
[06:57] <Alpha232> WiseOdd: what format is the disk in?
[06:58] <WiseOdd> alpha: ext2
[06:58] <Alpha232> mount it, rm -rf it and you're done
[06:58] <Alpha232> if you want to change blocking, inode size, you'll have to do a full format
[06:58] <Alpha232> all that a quick format under windows does is wipe clean the fat
[06:59] <ajax4> Make sure you switch to the mounted partition before issuing the rm -rf :)
[06:59] <WiseOdd> alpha: nice. ill try it, and if i cant make it work, ill be back :) thx alot!
[06:59] <snoops> Wiseguy why not ext3? and it should be a 'quickformat' by default
[06:59] <Alpha232> and even that it doesn't totally wipe it
[06:59] <karl> !x2
[06:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about x2 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:59] <karl> !x2x
[06:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about x2x - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:59] <karl> !x2vnc
[06:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about x2vnc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:59] <Alpha232> snoops: but if its ext2, and formats as ext3, it will still take a while, longer than an rm-rf
[06:59] <myk> Hey, has anyone here setup a dual monitor display on an nvidia card before? I finally gave up on my radeon 9100 and ordered a cheap geforce 6200
[07:00] <epidemik> how do you update firefox?
[07:00] <snoops> myk you can use twinview.. which is basically as hard as adding option "TwinView" "true" in xorg.conf and setting up res of other monitor
[07:00] <snooplsm> can I private msg someone?
[07:00] <farous> myk: i have dual head display on my ati card so i guess will not be help for you ;)
[07:00] <ajax4> epidemik: Use the update manager and it will update all your packages
[07:00] <snoops> or xinerama
[07:00] <myk> haha thanks
[07:00] <pequatre> hi everyone. I have a strange issue: i'm trying to install xubuntu-alternate, so i've downloaded the .iso using bittorrent. The md5sum of the downloaded iso is correct. Next, i burn it, and the md5sum is good on the cd too. But when i start on the cd and "check for defects" xubuntu tells me my cd is wrong (some .deb packages fail the test). What gives ??
[07:01] <DShepherd> epidemik: you can wait until ubuntu has the lastest packages and download it.
[07:01] <karl> can anyone hit the ubuntu wiki page? for some reason I cannot access it
[07:01] <epidemik> hmmm...
[07:01] <Alpha232> snoops: lol setting up the resolution of a monitor isn't as simple as it could be sometimes though
[07:01] <epidemik> its not showing anything
[07:01] <quixentric> hey, I'm running Dapper Drake (just upgraded), and having an issue with screen savers. When previewing, only half of them will actually show up in the preview window. This is a new machine as well, but I didn't have this problem in Breezy. Is this just a video card issue or is it something else?
[07:01] <myk> i could never get it to work right, i could get both monitors to work at the login screen, however after logging on the desktop would be locked to one monitor
[07:01] <ajax4> epidemik: What version of firefox? What version of Ubuntu?
[07:01] <DShepherd> epidemik: what version of firefox do you have?
[07:01] <epidemik> i have version 1.0.8
[07:01] <epidemik> and version 5.10 of ubuntu
[07:02] <snoops> Alpha232 agreed :/
[07:02] <epidemik> i want firefox 1.5 so i can use fireftp
[07:02] <farous> myk: i have ati 9600 here but never had this prob
[07:02] <epidemik> should i upgrade to ubuntu 6.06
[07:02] <epidemik> ?
[07:02] <ajax4> epidemik: Definitely
[07:02] <epidemik> okay
[07:02] <farous> myk: you might need to enable xinerama in gdm. i used the internal setting for my radeon card
[07:02] <epidemik> do i need to burn it to a cd or will update manager do it?
[07:03] <ajax4> epidemik: If you upgrade the newest version should be in the repositories
[07:03] <epidemik> okay
[07:03] <epidemik>  thanks
[07:03] <myk> farous: i've looked it up on the forums, others have had the problem but i havent been able to fix it
[07:03] <epidemik> anything i should know before updating
[07:03] <epidemik> im a noob still )
[07:03] <epidemik> ;)
[07:03] <snooplsm> i'm a noob
[07:03] <snooplsm> it sucks
[07:03] <epidemik> yeah
[07:03] <epidemik> lol
[07:03] <Alpha232> so anyone know of a config for ubuntu that supports lights out operation?  ie headless, all the boot is directed to the serial port?
[07:03] <snooplsm> it really sucks when apt-get doesn't work too
[07:03] <farous> myk: i had it set on both the property and free drivers. is that specific to your card?
[07:03] <myk> farous: im a bit of a noob il have to play around with xinerama
[07:03] <epidemik> anything i should know before updating to 6.06?
[07:03] <ajax4> epidemik: I forgot the commands to upgrade, I'm sure someone else on here knows.
[07:04] <epidemik> How do you upgrade to 6.06?
[07:04] <farous> myk: give me a min i might still have the command line to insert in gdm
[07:04] <epidemik> hmm
[07:04] <epidemik> i just started it through update manager
[07:04] <myk> farous: what do you mean specific to my card? i've tried both the ati bins and the open source ones, the ati ones gave me the best results
[07:04] <epidemik> it says itll be done in 28 minutes :(
[07:04] <farous> myk: and for nividia there might be a built in option like ati so you might check that too
[07:05] <epidemik> okay
[07:05] <epidemik> im gonna go make dinner and hope its done by the time i get back
[07:05] <farous> myk: what type of setting you needed extended ddesktop, clone mode or dual head
[07:05] <epidemik> how did you guys get so smart?
[07:05] <WiseOdd> hmm. next problem... somehow i have lost about 19 GB on a brand new disk... theres never been anything on the disk, but instead of 279GB theres only 261GB free... hows that?
[07:06] <myk> farous: extended desktop
[07:06] <Flav> WiseOdd: what's df -h say?
[07:06] <epidemik> I have an AMD Athlon XP 2000+, should i over clock it to 1.6 ghz?
[07:06] <Alpha232> Wiseguy: 1024 or 1000 :)
[07:07] <epidemik> is that safe
[07:07] <Flav> WiseOdd: it may just be the reserved blocks - you can tune2fs to drop/eliminate those if you wanted
[07:07] <WiseOdd> flaw: /dev/sda1             276G  105M  261G   1% /media/usbdisk
[07:07] <blah> what is the name of the package that installs a bunch of compiler tools to say build packages? i thought it was something like build tools?
[07:07] <Alpha232> Harddrives are based on 1000 per K vs computers which look at it as 1024 per K
[07:07] <Flav> WiseOdd: yeah, that's just reserved blocks
[07:07] <ajax4> epidemik: I don't know but that's an offtopic issue for this channel
[07:07] <Alpha232> WiseOdd: also some usb devices have "management" areas
[07:07] <snooplsm> "sudo apt-get install fakeroot" does not work (fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin), any suggestions
[07:07] <epidemik> sorry
[07:07] <farous> myk: ah with gnome it caused some prob with my but was faultless in fluxbox
[07:07] <snooplsm> no
[07:07] <Flav> WiseOdd: if it bothers you, tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1
[07:07] <farous> myk: ok here we go open the gdm.conf file
[07:07] <quixentric> .. anyone with screensaver help for me?
[07:08] <Alpha232> WiseOdd: though its not recommended...
[07:08] <WiseOdd> alpha: so for some reason the disc use 20 GB for management?
[07:08] <Alpha232> Wiseguy: 10% is reserved, only root can write to it
[07:08] <WiseOdd> flaw: thx
[07:08] <myk> farous: im not on my ubuntu install right now, can you tell me what to add and ill fix it tomorrow?
[07:08] <Alpha232> WiseOdd: its ment for system management, help maintain an unfragmented disk, and also allow root to do things when the disk is full to fix it
[07:08] <WiseOdd> alpha: why?
[07:08] <WiseOdd> ooh
[07:08] <farous> ok in your gdm.conf file go to the [server-standard]  section
[07:09] <odat> anyone willing to give some feedback?
[07:09] <Alpha232> WiseOdd: say you have 2000 users, the disk gets full, no one can do anything, except root who has the ability to use that extra 10%
[07:09] <bruenig> feedback on what
[07:09] <farous> myk: replace this line command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -br -audit 0
[07:09] <odat> open source project i'm working on    www.fossystems.com
[07:09] <farous> myk:  with this line  command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -br +xinerama -audit 0
[07:09] <myk> k
[07:10] <WiseOdd> alpha: is there a way to use instead of 10%, just use fx 1%?
[07:10] <farous> myk: that was with the old xserver-xorg though som might need editing for the new xorg-server
[07:10] <farous> myk: let me check if the bins are in the same place
[07:10] <myk> ok
[07:10] <Flav> WiseOdd: it's actually currently 5 - and if you want 1 instead, make the param 1 instead of 0 in that line I gave you
[07:11] <Alpha232> WiseOdd :   man tune2fs
[07:11] <WiseOdd> flaw: great. Thx alot!
[07:11] <Hexidigital> test
[07:11] <Hexidigital> whoops... sorry
[07:11] <Flav> WiseOdd: it's actually "Flav", thanks
[07:11] <Flav> fwiw, man mke2fs will point out that the default is 5%
[07:11] <WiseOdd> flav: hehe, didnt see that :)
[07:11] <farous> myk: yah it was changed
[07:12] <Flav> which is why you're "losing" 15GB of a ~300GB disk
[07:12] <WiseOdd> flav: whoops
[07:12] <jimwenn> hello
[07:12] <jimwenn> who can help me
[07:12] <ajax4> Flav: Does it do it automatically for all partitions or just root?
[07:12] <farous> instead of /usr/X11R6/bin/X it is now /usr/bin/X
[07:12] <Alpha232> Flav: sorry i'm used to 10% on solaris ;)
[07:12] <ajax4> jimwenn: What is your question?
[07:12] <myk> farous: great thanks
[07:12] <bruenig> odat, it seems kind of unnecessary. Buying used computers that have linux or other free operating systems. If they are free, then I would just get any computer that I wanted and then install them. I guess it is kind of a nice assurance to know they run these systems well.
[07:13] <farous> myk then you know how to configure the server in your xorg.conf file
[07:13] <jimwenn> i  want to install gcc but after installed it,it can not work
[07:13] <farous> myk: take care
[07:13] <myk> farous: you too
[07:13] <Flav> ajax4: all filesystems - at filesystem creation time, you don't really "know" if it's going to be / or something else, you're just making a filesystem on a partition
[07:14] <Flav> ajax4: but that's just a default, you can pass -m to override the default
[07:14] <ajax4> Flav: Thanks for the useful info :)
[07:14] <jimwenn> i run the command gcc -o -g hello hello.c
[07:14] <jimwenn>    but there are some errors
[07:14] <snooplsm> how do I configure libc6
[07:14] <WiseOdd> flav: is says: couldnt find valid filesystem superblock....
[07:15] <WiseOdd> flav: can you translate?
[07:15] <ajax4> jimwenn: Use the pastebin website and post the output
[07:15] <Flav> WiseOdd: you need to run it as root
[07:15] <jimwenn> the   error information is gcc: hello
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:1: syntax error before < token
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:9: my_print
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:6: my_print
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:  my_print
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:10:  printf
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:10:  "
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:11:  "
[07:15] <ajax4> jimwenn: no
[07:15] <jimwenn> hello.c:12: syntax error before } token
[07:15] <Flav> WiseOdd: the line above that likely said "Permission denie"
[07:15] <WiseOdd> flav: i am running as root...
[07:15] <karl> !synergy
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about synergy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:16] <Flav> WiseOdd: can you paste the exact command and output?
[07:16] <ajax4> jimwenn: Post it on the pastebin website and give us the address
[07:16] <Hexidigital> jimwenn:: stop it
[07:16] <Flav> WiseOdd: (pastebin or pm or whatever)
[07:16] <farous> WiseOdd: if you are trying to reformat a partition you have to unmount it
[07:16] <WiseOdd> pm Flav
[07:16] <orbin> jimwenn: and you're in the wrong channel
[07:16] <Flav> farous: he's just running tune2fs - no need to umount
[07:16] <WiseOdd> ... not that way.. how do i pm?
[07:16] <farous> Flav: ok
[07:17] <farous> cheers :)
[07:17] <odat> bruenig, its not all my stuff it just gives open source systems its very own place to sell.   The key is that all revenue is used to advertising everyones listing  therefore promoting open source systems.  This is about everyone not just guys like us who can install whatever we want  this is about guys like us creating systems from open source software for guys who can't   to save them money, so them what they are missing and promote
[07:17] <odat> open source
[07:17] <Hexidigital> WiseOdd:: /msg {nick} message
[07:17] <WiseOdd> thx
[07:17] <Flav> WiseOdd: or use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:18] <WiseOdd> Flav: did u get the pm?
[07:18] <Flav> WiseOdd: no
[07:19] <WiseOdd> Flav: hmm... 2 sec
[07:19] <WiseOdd> tune2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[07:19] <WiseOdd> tune2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1
[07:19] <WiseOdd> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[07:19] <Nuked> I tried to make my own live cd, and ended up with a  directory full of what I suspect are immutable files
[07:20] <Nuked> I used a script
[07:20] <Nuked> but now I cant remove these files
[07:20] <Flav> WiseOdd: what's the output of "mount"?
[07:20] <WiseOdd> flav: u getting it now?
[07:20] <WiseOdd> flav: 2 sec
[07:20] <Nuked> chattr -i does not seem to be working
[07:20] <snooplsm> ubuntuforums++
[07:21] <Nuked> any help ?
[07:21] <WiseOdd> root@JunkYard:/media/usbdisk# mount
[07:21] <WiseOdd> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (rw,umask=0222)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:21] <ajax4> WiseOdd: Use pastebin dude!
[07:21] <WiseOdd> root@JunkYard:/media/usbdisk#
[07:21] <Hexidigital> !paste
[07:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:21] <WiseOdd> ajax4: sry man, but dunno how.. 2tal n00b :(
[07:22] <Nuked> can someone help me remove the immutable files?
[07:22] <ajax4> Wiseguy: Go to that website and paste your output on there...then give us the link to the output
[07:22] <WiseOdd> ajax: thx
[07:23] <Nuked> anyone?
[07:23] <WiseOdd> flav: its here....: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18912
[07:23] <Flav> hmmm - it's ext2 and mounted fine but tune2fs can't open /dev/sda1
[07:25] <Flav> WiseOdd: try tune2fs -m 0 /dev/hda1 to see if that works
[07:25] <WiseOdd> falv: ok
[07:25] <WiseOdd> flav:ok
[07:25] <WiseOdd> flav: it worked  :)
[07:26] <WiseOdd> flav: do i have to reformat the disc?
[07:26] <TiG4> *-- I have an old Pentium IIIand when I installed Dapper, it goes through the boot process but when it comes time for the login screen, it never shows up it just goes to a black screen, any ideas? --*
[07:26] <Flav> WiseOdd: you shouldn't need to - i'm not sure why it's not working.
[07:27] <Flav> WiseOdd: FWIW, though, as Alpha232 said, root is allowed to write to the full capacity, so it's not like that 15GB is really lost
[07:27] <TiG4> *-- And whenever I ran the graphical installer, the x server would not start, it did the same thing and went to a black screen. What could the problem be? --*
[07:28] <WiseOdd> flav: yeah i know, but its still 15 GB i really cant use. Its not like i have 1000s of users...
[07:28] <teimu> is there a built in port scanner for ubuntu? i know this sounds suspicious, but all im trying to do is find an open port for netcat on another one of my machines
[07:28] <WiseOdd> flav: im just trying linux, bcause Windows is a big stinker!
[07:28] <WiseOdd> flav: 15 GB i cant use, just isnt my cup of tea...
[07:28] <Flav> WiseOdd: well, if there's nothing of value stored there, you can umount /media/usbdisk then mke2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1
[07:29] <Flav> WiseOdd: well, you're running as root right now, so you could use those 15GB fine
[07:30] <WiseOdd> flav: will do that.. the only reason im running as root, is to backup my files. then im back to standard user :)
[07:30] <Flav> WiseOdd: good
[07:30] <WiseOdd> Flav: but thnax alot for the help! Real nice!
[07:30] <teimu> WiseOdd, just sudo cp. no need to login as root
[07:30] <TiG4> *-- Whenever I ran the Dapper graphical installer, the x server would not start, it did the same thing and went to a black screen. What could the problem be? --*
[07:31] <WiseOdd> flav: yeah i know, but there was alot of things to be done... this way was easier...
[07:31] <e4gl3> k, how do i change the owner of folders and the files in them?
[07:31] <e4gl3> i want to delete my original account, and then reamake it
[07:32] <Flav> WiseOdd: you can also "sudo -s" to get a shell if you need to do a few different things in sudo and don't want to prefix "sudo" a bunch
[07:32] <Flav> e4gl3: chown -R user folder
[07:32] <teimu> TiG4, how are you installing? install CD during boot?
[07:32] <e4gl3> ok thanks
[07:32] <WiseOdd> flav: ah, nice1. didnt know that :)
[07:32] <e4gl3> and thats sudo yeh?
[07:32] <Flav> e4gl3: if you're not the current owner, yes
[07:33] <teimu> is there a built in port scanner for ubuntu? i know this sounds suspicious, but all im trying to do is find an open port for netcat on another one of my machines
[07:34] <TiG4> teimu, Im just using the install cd, and booting from the cd
[07:34] <teimu> every port i try is refused
[07:34] <nicholaspaul> has anyone here tried installing ubuntu on a G3?
[07:35] <zcat[1] > nicholaspaul: beige g3 ?
[07:35] <teimu> nicholaspaul, are G3's intel?
[07:35] <nicholaspaul> zcat[1] : yea
[07:35] <nicholaspaul> teimu er..no
[07:35] <teimu> nicholaspaul, well, im pretty darn sure it wont work then
[07:36] <nicholaspaul> teimu: actually i know for a fact that lots of people have got it installed, but I wondered if there was a person here who has done it since i'm having trouble.
[07:36] <nicholaspaul> teimu: besides, you dont need intell to install ubuntu
[07:37] <zcat[1] > http://wlug.org.nz/UbuntuOnOldWorldPPC   -- I've done breezy but couldn't get dapper going. It doesn't seem to like running the newer kernels.. dapper with an old kernel might work
[07:37] <teimu> nicholaspaul, hmm. i think i was thinking of installing windows on a mac. you're right
[07:37] <teimu> TiG4, is there any option not to use the graphical installer?
[07:38] <TiG4> teimu, I got it installed with the not graphical installer, but now xserver wont start on bootup
[07:38] <ajax4> teimu: There is version of Ubuntu that you can download that uses an alternate installer
[07:38] <teimu> TiG4, this seems like a video problem.
[07:38] <TiG4> teimu, I think thats what it isalso
[07:39] <teimu> TiG4, what card are you using?
[07:39] <TiG4> Intel Pro somethin...
[07:39] <TiG4> Not for sure
[07:39] <teimu> and TiG4, can you get a console?
[07:39] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. have to go in 15 mins abd I think I should eat something first!
[07:40] <TiG4> teimu, yep
[07:40] <TiG4> teimu, I've reconfigured xorg
[07:40] <TiG4> teimu, but I didn't really know which vid driver to select, I used the default i810
[07:41] <teimu> TiG4, hmm. i was going to mention changing that. have you googled for what other people have done with that card?
[07:41] <TiG4> no not yet, i will after this, imgoing to try to reconfig gdm
[07:41] <fishy> I'm trying to use Skype on Ubuntu. Skype is giving me bugs. Are there any alternatives that let me talk to my friends with my Skype name?
[07:42] <teimu> TiG4, btw, have you installed any linux on that machine and got x11 to work?
[07:43] <pilgrim> I've got an nvidia gforce4 card, I can only get 640x480 resolution. HOw do I increase it?
[07:43] <teimu> pilgrim, get the nvidia driver from apt
[07:43] <pilgrim> teimu, can you give me the exact name?
[07:44] <TiG4> teimu, yeah
[07:44] <TiG4> teimu, debian
[07:45] <teimu> pilgrim, i wish. i dont remember it, and i cant get root on this machine im using to look it up in apt. open synaptic and search nvidia, you'll see a whole bunch, pick the ones you think you need, and make sure they have the ubuntu logo next to them
[07:45] <pilgrim> teimu, cool. thanks.
[07:45] <teimu> TiG4, why not just use the video card data from that install?
[07:45] <ajax4> !nvidia > pilgrim
[07:46] <pilgrim> ajax4, thanks :)
[07:46] <teimu> TiG4, in xorg i mean
[07:47] <ajax4> pilgrim: You're welcome. You should be good to go :)
[07:47] <ZeZu> !easyubuntu
[07:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:47] <ZeZu> pilgrim, might think about looking at that script
[07:47] <pilgrim> ZeZu, actually I installed easyubuntu.
[07:47] <ZeZu> its not for everyone, but its always worked nicely for me and solved quite a few problems, and its piss easy
[07:48] <pilgrim> ZeZu, and chose nvidia in it and still same problem with rez.
[07:48] <ZeZu> perhaps its your monitor settings
[07:48] <Eclipse_GSX> ok how do i install drivers for a device? i have the drivers....but i dont know how to install them....linux is confusing me...
[07:48] <ZeZu> what type of monitor do you have connected ?
[07:48] <fishy> What's the command to suspend the computer?
[07:48] <ZeZu> sleep maybe
[07:48] <pilgrim> ZeZu, hmm..no idea...this isn't my own machine and I don't have access to it right now.
[07:49] <ZeZu> well you might look at the settings in xorg.conf for the monitor as well
[07:49] <pilgrim> ZeZu, k. I'll figure it out. If not, I'll be back.
[07:49] <ZeZu> if the vid driver is installed properly and its working (esp w/ 3d accell. working) then its likely not a vid driver prob
[07:50] <pilgrim> ZeZu, that's some good information. Thanks.
[07:50] <Alpha232> is there no one who uses ubuntu as a headless server?
[07:50] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: Most devices will work out of the box with no need for additional drivers. What type of device?
[07:50] <teimu> hey pilgrim, i just looked at that easyubuntu thing. it looks like it might be exactly what youre looking for. theres an option to install the nvidia drivers at a click of the mouse
[07:50] <ZeZu> no prob
[07:50] <Madpilot> Alpha232, lots of people do - what's your specific question?
[07:50] <Eclipse_GSX> ajax4: USB wireless adapter
[07:50] <Eclipse_GSX> d-link...
[07:50] <teimu> is there a built in port scanner for ubuntu? i know this sounds suspicious, but all im trying to do is find an open port for netcat on another one of my machines
[07:51] <pilgrim> teimu, I've tried it already. Didn't change anything though.
[07:51] <ZeZu> teimu, probably not just download one?
[07:51] <pilgrim> teimu, apt-get install nmap
[07:51] <teimu> pilgrim, meh...do the synaptic thing then =)
[07:51] <ZeZu> pilgrim, have ya tried the resolution switcher even ? is 640x480 the only option ?
[07:51] <pilgrim> ZeZu, yeah.
[07:51] <ZeZu> yea .. monitor settings
[07:51] <Eclipse_GSX> i dont get how to "complie"
[07:51] <fishy> I'm not in GNOME. What's the command to "Suspend" the computer
[07:52] <TiG4> teimu, what do you mean
[07:52] <fishy> Eclipse: ./configure, make, sudo make install
[07:52] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: Does it say you need to compile your device driver?
[07:52] <ZeZu> its not the driver
[07:52] <pilgrim> fishy, suspend
[07:52] <Eclipse_GSX> ajax4: yea
[07:52] <ZeZu> doesn't seem likely anyways
[07:52] <fishy> thanks, pilgrim
[07:52] <teimu> pilgrim, thanks. it turns out i already have nmap. now im in business
[07:52] <pilgrim> fishy, you're welcome.
[07:52] <Eclipse_GSX> ajax4: or at least thats what the README says...
[07:52] <pilgrim> teimu, you're welcome.
[07:52] <pilgrim> Eclipse_GSX, what are you compiling?
[07:53] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: You have to install a compiler and all the required libaries.
[07:53] <fishy> pilgrim: Nothing is happening. I'm not in GNOME, do I need to run gnome-screensaver first?
[07:53] <Eclipse_GSX> im so confused...
[07:53] <minerale> Hi could someone help me with this? -- I have a currently running gnome session, I have tightvnc, and I'd like to reconnect to the running session, using tightvncserver all I get is a 'new' x server / vnc session
[07:53] <Eclipse_GSX> why cant things just come in an installer package....
[07:53] <pilgrim> Eclipse_GSX, what do you want to do?
[07:53] <pilgrim> Eclipse_GSX, let's start t here
[07:53] <Alpha232> Madpilot: i'm trying to find out if there is a prebuilt config for running headless, ie when booting, what would be displayed on the console (monitor) is sent to a serial port.
[07:53] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: They are. Just type this in a terminal: apt-get install build-essential
[07:53] <teimu> TiG4, copy the xorg.conf (or whatever its called) to some place you can get to it again, and then apply those values to the new xorg.
[07:53] <pilgrim> fishy, interesting...
[07:53] <Madpilot> Alpha232, hmm, no idea.
[07:54] <pilgrim> fishy, don't want to try it on my machine since...I don't want to suspend. so I don't know what the prob. is
[07:54] <teimu> TiG4, unless you've already overwritten the Debian install...
[07:54] <azcazandco> I think I just totally hosed the windows partition on my pc whilst trying to re-install dapper drake
[07:54] <Alpha232> Madpilot: every time i upgrade i have to uninstall X, uninstall openoffice and all the other cruft and re-edit my inittab to enable my console, and never get to see my kernel messages until the system is up and i read the logs
[07:54] <TiG4> teimu, yeah i did
[07:54] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: I can't get private messages so just talk in the main channel.
[07:54] <TiG4> teimu, Unfortunately
[07:55] <teimu> TiG4, ahh. crap. im outta ideas. sorry
[07:55] <Madpilot> Alpha232, you shouldn't have to mess with X & such, at least - do a server install
[07:55] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: Type this in a terminal: apt-get install build-essential
[07:55] <fishy> Hmm. Anyone know how to suspend?
[07:55] <azcazandco> in gparted it says it cannot detect a filesystem where windows used to be and it says it is unmounted
[07:55] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: Actually its: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:55] <azcazandco> anyone got advice on how to recover as I have valuable data there
[07:56] <pilgrim> azcazandco, showing as unallocated?
[07:56] <azcazandco> shown as unknown
[07:57] <pilgrim> azcazandco, tried mounting ?
[07:57] <azcazandco> doesnt give the option
[07:57] <dazvid> Does anyone in here use a G15 keyboard?
[07:57] <azcazandco> is /dev/sda1
[07:57] <nathan_> hello
[07:57] <pilgrim> azcazandco, "mount -t <type> /dev/hda<num> /mnt/"
[07:57] <drt> hello i need help, ive searched google for the last 5+ hours and tried many methods to get my broadcom 4318 wifi card working in dapper 64bit and nothing has worked
[07:57] <Eclipse_GSX> ok so i typed that in...
[07:57] <nathan_> i have a question. i want to completely uninstall xorg and all the stuff that runs in it
[07:57] <drt> i have lost eth1 in network alltoghter
[07:58] <nathan_> how would i do that?
[07:58] <snooplsm> how do you guys have azureus on your pc?
[07:58] <Alpha232> drt: well call broadcom and tell them to release open source drivers
[07:58] <snooplsm> do you just run the jar?
[07:58] <uniscript> completely remove x11-common
[07:58] <pilgrim> Alpha232, what an answer.
[07:58] <uniscript> nathan_: completely uninstall x11-common
[07:58] <snoops> snooplsm sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:58] <drt> Alpha232: i can and will, in the mean time is there any work around?
[07:58] <nathan_> ok, do i need to kill xorg and everything?
[07:58] <nathan_> i'm running on an ssh session now
[07:58] <pilgrim> drt, tried ndiswrappers?
[07:58] <snooplsm> snoops: thats too ez haha, love this os
[07:58] <drt> pilgrim: yes
[07:58] <Alpha232> drt: yup...ndiswraper
[07:59] <azcazandco> pilgrim: so that would be mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt ?
[07:59] <drt> i lost eth1 in network
[07:59] <pilgrim> azcazandco, sure.
[07:59] <azcazandco> k
[07:59] <drt> it's gone
[07:59] <uniscript> nathan_: uninstalling x11-common and all dependencies will kill X for you
[07:59] <drt> after using ndis
[07:59] <nathan_> ok, thanks uniscript
[07:59] <m3talc0re> hey
[07:59] <m3talc0re> i got a question for ya
[07:59] <pilgrim> drt, hm...strange.
[07:59] <ajax4> azcazandco: Be careful, ntfs does not work fully under Linux
[07:59] <m3talc0re> why does ubuntu's Firefox icon the Deer Park icon?
[07:59] <pilgrim> drt, did you try something else prior to ndis?
[08:00] <fishy> Ubuntu is really slow...
[08:00] <m3talc0re> why is*
[08:00] <nathan_> ok, i have another question
[08:00] <fishy> (wiki)
[08:00] <pilgrim> m3talc0re, just the theme.
[08:00] <snooplsm> is mplayer the best video player?
[08:00] <drt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=ndiswrapper+howto < this is the method i tried last
[08:00] <m3talc0re> is there a way i can change it's icon?
[08:00] <KuriKai> m3talc0re:  I think because the icon is trademarked / copyrited
[08:00] <nathan_> is there a way to make linux run a certain application without somebody being logged in?
[08:00] <ajax4> fishy: I've found it to be one of the speediest Linux distros I've ever used
[08:00] <Eclipse_GSX> ajax4: ok so i went through it al....now what?
[08:00] <Vhata> nathan_: learn about crontab
[08:00] <m3talc0re> n/m
[08:00] <azcazandco> pilgrim: getting errors with that :9
[08:00] <m3talc0re> dumb question :P
[08:00] <pilgrim> nathan_, sure.
[08:00] <prophet> where can i find PNG icons?
[08:00] <nathan_> i'm trying to make a turnkey multiplayer game server
[08:01] <snooplsm> prophet try google with Creative Commons PNG ICONS
[08:01] <KuriKai> prophet: http://google.com
[08:01] <pilgrim> azcazandco, so did it mount? tried cd-ing into /mnt?
[08:01] <uniscript> nathan_ you can add a script into /etc/init.d
[08:01] <ajax4> Eclipse_GSX: You should follow the readme instructions and could be different depending on the program you are compiling. But generally it involves doing a 'configure', 'make' then 'make install'
[08:02] <uniscript> nathan_ it'll run as root if you link to it from the right place in /etc/rc.3
[08:02] <azcazandco> no it didnt mount
[08:02] <pilgrim> ajax4, what is Eclipse_GSX trying to install?
[08:02] <Eclipse_GSX> ajax4 ok
[08:02] <ajax4> pilgrim: Device driver
[08:02] <nathan_> i want it to run with limited permissions, to be honest
[08:02] <uniscript> nathan_ s/rc.3/rc3.d
[08:02] <pilgrim> ajax4, :(
[08:02] <uniscript> then make it auto start when you log into the reduced permissions account
[08:02] <Eclipse_GSX> pilgrim: USB D-Link wireless adapter....
[08:02] <ajax4> pilgrim: Problem?
[08:03] <pilgrim> Eclipse_GSX, did it work out for you?
[08:03] <snoops> snooplsm most people would say it's the best.. also for azureus you'll need to enable universe and may as well add multiverse repositories while you're at it.. open synaptic and go settings>repositories..scroll down the dialog box, pick the repositories, hit close then reload :) you can open synaptic from system>administration
[08:03] <Eclipse_GSX> not yet...
[08:03] <pilgrim> ajax4, no, just sad about Eclipse_GSX's prob.
[08:03] <ajax4> pilgrim: Yeah, I know.
[08:04] <azcazandco> pilgrim: any suggestions as to what to try next?
[08:04] <pilgrim> ajax4, we shouldn't need to compile in this day and age.
[08:04] <pilgrim> azcazandco, hmm.....
[08:04] <minerale> Hi, I'm a novice when it comes to this -- I have a currently running gnome session, I have tightvnc, and I'd like to reconnect to the running session, using tightvncserver all I get is a 'new' x server / vnc session. How can I use the vnc server to connect to my current window, as if I were sitting in front of the computer
[08:04] <pilgrim> azcazandco, I've seen a similar problem.
[08:04] <Myrtti> hello
[08:04] <ajax4> pilgrim: I agree. At least they're supporting it somewhat. But you're right, newbies shouldn't have to compile to get their hardware working.
[08:04] <pilgrim> azcazandco, can't think of the solution though.
[08:04] <kouwe> moge
[08:05] <pilgrim> ajax4, I love that autopackage thingy. I don't know why devs don't use it more.
[08:05] <azcazandco> pilgrim: I am panicing slightly
[08:05] <Myrtti> I'm wondering how I could get my ubuntu to install all the packages listed in a output file of dpkg --get-selections?
[08:05] <pilgrim> azcazandco, yeah, I'd be panicing too.
[08:05] <DonePedro> Please. help me!
[08:05] <DonePedro> I can't type "w" on the keyboard!
[08:05] <snoops> minerale umm can you choose which desktop to connect to in tightvncviewer? like ipaddress:session.. the one in front of your pc should be session 0 or 1
[08:06] <pilgrim> DonePedro, you just did.
[08:06] <azcazandco> pilgrim: that sounds like a very very grim outlook
[08:06] <ajax4> pilgrim: hahahah
[08:06] <thedude> I have a problem with my ubunto install on g3 imac
[08:06] <pilgrim> :)
[08:06] <prophet> where can i find a png icon for opera
[08:06] <Vhata> Myrtti: dpkg --set-selections, funnily enough
[08:06] <ajax4> prophet: try /usr/share/pixmaps
[08:06] <Myrtti> Vhata: nothing happens, funnily enough
[08:07] <Vhata> Myrtti: no, now you need to tell it to go ahead and commit those selections
[08:07] <thedude> it installs fine but I get "there was a problem registering the panel with the bonobo activation server the error code is 3 the panel will now exit"
[08:07] <Vhata> Myrtti: apt-get upgrade?
[08:07] <lurker> ..
[08:07] <Ademan> hey is it possible to use my pci voodoo 3 card?
[08:07] <nemsb> Help
[08:07] <Myrtti> Vhata: should that do the trick?
[08:07] <nemsb> somebody
[08:07] <Vhata> Myrtti: it "should"  :-/
[08:07] <pilgrim> azcazandco, hey, try windows repair option. might work.
[08:07] <DonePedro> i copy this "vv"!
[08:07] <Vhata> nemsb: you have to actually specify what you need help with.
[08:07] <ajax4> Ademan: Yes, I've installed Linux on computers with Voodoo 3 cards
[08:07] <DonePedro> please, help!
[08:08] <minerale> snooplsm: but I need to setup a vnc server first....
[08:08] <ajax4> DonePedro: What key are you having trouble with?
[08:08] <pilgrim> DonePedro, is your keyboard broken?
[08:08] <Vhata> Myrtti: does it?
[08:08] <nemsb> hello
[08:08] <DonePedro> no
[08:08] <Ademan> ajax4: yeah, but can i take advantage of the voodoo 3?
[08:08] <Myrtti> doesn't look like it so far
[08:08] <DonePedro> My keyboard is ne
[08:08] <DonePedro> vv
[08:08] <pilgrim> DonePedro, why isn't the W key working then?
[08:08] <DonePedro> in vvindovvs is ok
[08:09] <pilgrim> DonePedro, hmm...
[08:09] <Myrtti> DonePedro: have you been playing with keyboard shortcuts?
[08:09] <DonePedro> on ubuntu bad
[08:09] <ajax4> Ademan: Whta do you mean "take advantage"?
[08:09] <DonePedro> no?
[08:09] <pilgrim> DonePedro, what layout you got?
[08:09] <pilgrim> DonePedro, keyboard layout?
[08:09] <Ademan> like are there voodoo 3 drivers?
[08:09] <nemsb> i forget to fill my root password
[08:09] <stefg> !root
[08:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:10] <ajax4> Ademan: Yes, there are.
[08:10] <Vhata> Myrtti: man dpkg, go right to the bottom, see what it says, I was wrong ;-)
[08:10] <fivre> Ademan: my voodoo3 works
[08:10] <kouwe> what command should i use to activate eth0 and set it to use DHCP.... ?
[08:10] <Myrtti> Vhata: ookkey
[08:10] <fivre> however, I don't think you're going to be playing any XTREME games on it :|
[08:10] <Vhata> Myrtti: 'dselect install' should do it, it seems
[08:11] <thedude> I keep getting nautilus errors at start up
[08:11] <sentinel> hmm
[08:11] <nemsb> when i want to edit /etc/passwd, i cannot save it.
[08:11] <thedude> and nothing loads
[08:11] <pilgrim> nemsb, why you editing /etc/passwd?
[08:11] <nemsb> how to change it?
[08:11] <pilgrim> nemsb, shouldn't need to do that
[08:11] <Vhata> thedude: for anybody to be able to help you, you need to say *what* the errors are - we can't just guess what is wrong, and the error messages are actually there to tell you the problem, you know
[08:11] <pilgrim> nemsb, change what?
[08:11] <thedude> it installs fine but I get "there was a problem registering the panel with the bonobo activation server the error code is 3 the panel will now exit"
[08:11] <Vhata> nemsb: why are you editing /etc/passwd?  you shouldn't be doing that
[08:12] <thedude> vhata: that's the error
[08:12] <stefg> !doesn't work > thedude
[08:12] <pilgrim> kouwe, got GUI?
[08:12] <kouwe> pilgrim: no
[08:12] <sentinel> I have no monitor plugged into my ubuntu GUI machine (it's being accessed remotely), except after rebooting without the monitor plugged in, it's stuck at 640x480 resolution, is there any way I could force a higher resolution?
[08:13] <nemsb> make root password, forgot to make it
[08:13] <nemsb> ok..
[08:13] <kouwe> pilgrim: i activated it with up but now it doesnt get an ip with DHCP
[08:13] <pilgrim> kouwe, ifconfig eth0 up should bring eth0...up
[08:13] <pilgrim> kouwe, I see.
[08:13] <stefg> !ixres > sentinel
[08:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ixres  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:13] <stefg> !fixres > sentinel
[08:13] <nemsb> Vhata: Ok
[08:13] <pilgrim> kouwe, do /etc/ini.d/networking restart
[08:13] <Alpha232> bah
[08:13] <kouwe> ok
[08:13] <pilgrim> kouwe, with sudo of course
[08:13] <Madpilot> nemsb, Ubuntu uses sudo + your user password
[08:13] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell nemsb about sudo
[08:13] <nemsb> pilgrim: how to make root password
[08:13] <ajax4> !sudo
[08:13] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:14] <fishy> ajax4: I was talking about the wiki loading speed. ;)
[08:14] <pilgrim> nemsb, there is no root in ubuntu
[08:14] <Vhata> Feature request for Ubuntu: use some special force-feedback mechanism to electrically shock people who try to admin an Ubuntu box without learning about sudo first
[08:14] <ajax4> fishy: Usually if webpages load slow its not due to your computer but your internet connection or the server that is sending you the page.
[08:14] <pilgrim> nemsb, if you want to run a command as root, for example "ls" you type "sudo ls" instead and then put you USER password
[08:14] <kouwe> pilgrim: still no ip... after restarting
[08:14] <stefg> !root
[08:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:14] <Myrtti> Vhata: thank you!
[08:14] <Madpilot> Vhata, +1 - bugs.ubuntu.com, file as Wishlist :)
[08:15] <pilgrim> kouwe, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:15] <Vhata> Myrtti: sorted?
[08:15] <kouwe> pilgrim: yeahyeah
[08:15] <kouwe> lo is up
[08:15] <nathan_> ok, so if i put this program in cron, i wouldn't have to login to run it?
[08:15] <pilgrim> kouwe, hm..
[08:15] <nathan_> i'm still very new to this, sorry
[08:15] <Vhata> nathan_: cron will run a program regularly at the specified time, as the specified user
[08:16] <Myrtti> Vhata: yes
[08:16] <stefg> nathan_: that's the reason why (ana)cron exists
[08:16] <Myrtti> Vhata: <3
[08:16] <Vhata> nathan_: do you want it to be run regularly at a certain interval, or do you want it to run once when the machine starts up, as a service?
[08:16] <nathan_> i want it to run as a service
[08:16] <nemsb> pilgrim: thank..
[08:16] <stefg> !boot
[08:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:16] <Vhata> then you need to look into writing an init.d script for it
[08:16] <Hexidigital> if i enter my college LAN essid in my /etc/network/interface file, should that detect DHCP at boot, with another essid entry?
[08:16] <nathan_> ok
[08:16] <Vhata> that there is a useful bot.
[08:16] <pilgrim> nemsb, you're welcome :)
[08:16] <nemsb> pilgrim: no multiuser in ubuntu?
[08:16] <thedude> vhata: "there was a problem registering the panel with the bonobo activation server the error code is 3 the panel will now exit"
[08:17] <pilgrim> nemsb, sure... just add one.
[08:17] <Vhata> thedude: yeah, I saw, I have no idea what the problem is
[08:17] <pilgrim> nemsb, got GUI?
[08:17] <Vhata> thedude: but now that I have that error message, I can tell you that there's something wrong with your gnome
[08:18] <thedude> vhata: how can I possibly fix it when it's a fresh install and I can't access anything because nothing loads
[08:18] <Vhata> thedude: run 'ps ax | grep bonobo' in a shell and tell me if it gives you any output that looks like 'bonobo-activation-server' ?
[08:18] <Vhata> thedude: a fresh install gives you that error!?
[08:18] <Vhata> that's not good
[08:18] <thedude> vhata: yes
[08:18] <Vhata> can I call you His Dudeness, btw?
[08:19] <thedude> vhata: well I have yet to get any version of linux to run on this machine, so I guess it's just another coaster I made
[08:19] <Vhata> or, uh, Duder.  Or El Duderino, if I'm not feeling into that whole brevity thing.
[08:19] <thedude> vhata: sure can
[08:19] <Vhata> thedude: were there any errors during installation?
[08:19] <akonkwa> Does anyone know how I can chenge the frequency of my display other than through the GUI? I'm using breezy
[08:19] <thedude> vhata: no
[08:19] <Vhata> thedude: let me google for you
[08:20] <Vhata> thedude: what machine is it?
[08:20] <nemsb> pilgrim: i have GUI, easy to use..not command line
[08:20] <thedude> vhata: I've tried yellowdog, mandrake, and just about every other linux that makes a ppc verion and nothing loads, this is actually the most successful as far as installing it
[08:21] <Vhata> thedude: iBook?
[08:21] <thedude> vhata: imac G3 233mhz
[08:21] <Vhata> right
[08:21] <Vhata> thedude: try reinstalling gnome-panel?
[08:21] <nemsb> pilgrim: is that ubuntu has vlc player using apt-get?
[08:21] <pilgrim> nemsb, go to system>administration>users and groups...there you can add users.
[08:21] <garryF> thedude: Can you get to a command line at all or edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:21] <pilgrim> nemsb, should.
[08:21] <Vhata> thedude: aptitude reinstall gnome-panel, from a root shell
[08:21] <pilgrim> kouwe, man interfaces
[08:22] <Vhata> thedude: have you also looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:22] <kouwe> aaah :)
[08:22] <thedude> vhata: how can I get to a root shell on it?
[08:22] <akonkwa> Does anyone know how I can chenge the frequency of my display other than through the GUI? I'm using breezy
[08:22] <garryF> from any command line do sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-panel
[08:22] <Vhata> thedude: sudo -s
[08:23] <Vhata> or, do what garryF said
[08:23] <thedude> vhata: yeah but getting to the actuall command line is the problem
[08:23] <nemsb> pilgrim: what command? like this -- sudo apt-get vlc?
[08:23] <azcazandco> pilgrim: do you have any suggestions as to where to start googling for solutions or do you think I am pretty much f***ed
[08:23] <garryF> it will ask for a password, it will be your normal user password.
[08:23] <Vhata> thedude: ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console
[08:23] <Vhata> thedude: then log in as a normal user
[08:23] <thedude> vhata: ok
[08:24] <pilgrim> nemsb, yeah.
[08:24] <nemsb> got to go now..
[08:24] <pilgrim> azcazandco, don't give up hope.
[08:24] <garryF> Yeah, I always forget that ctrl-alt-f1 thing. /slaps self.
[08:24] <pilgrim> azcazandco, got a windows cd?
[08:24] <nemsb> lunch
[08:24] <azcazandco> pilgrim: thanks for the words of confidence
[08:24] <azcazandco> yes
[08:24] <pilgrim> azcazandco, tried repairing with it?
[08:25] <azcazandco> nope
[08:25] <azcazandco> will do that now
[08:25] <pilgrim> azcazandco, good luck.
[08:25] <azcazandco> haha... thanks...  looks like I will need it
[08:25] <garryF> Need to get Luck Linux
[08:26] <pilgrim> azcazandco, hey, one sec.
[08:26] <pilgrim> azcazandco, try "repairing ntfs partition" in google
[08:26] <pilgrim> could be promising.
[08:26] <thedude> will choosing "failsafe terminal" get me to the same place?
[08:26] <pilgrim> azcazandco, can you boot into windows at all?
[08:27] <Vhata> thedude: never seen that, not sure
[08:27] <garryF> It might thedude.
[08:27] <Vhata> thedude: you realise that if all these distributions fail to install, then it's not unlikely that your hardware is poked?
[08:27] <garryF> I've seen it. It looks like a minimum gui style command line.
[08:27] <thedude> vhata: the all fail at different points
[08:28] <blarp> thedude: I've successfully used the following Linux Distros on my iMac:  Debian, Ubuntu, FC5, and FC6 -- however I have yet to get Dapper Drake to work (video wise) out of the box  =(
[08:28] <Vhata> thedude: that doesn't mean it's not hardware
[08:28] <pilgrim> ok, good night y'all.
[08:28] <thedude> vhata: mandranke installed fine except for the screeching noise that came out of the speakers loud-as-hell
[08:28] <spades> thedude i know someone who cant get any linux on his pc but can get freebsd if you want *nix
[08:28] <pilgrim> don't lose hope.
[08:28] <Vhata> thedude: I'm not going to not stop using double negatives at you now
[08:28] <Ackeubu_> hey guys, things like extra buttons on my laptop, volume buttons and so on are no longer working. Can I start that service manually somhow?
[08:29] <bobbyw> does anyone know why when I open azureus it takes about ten minutes before it shows on hte screen?
[08:29] <Vhata> Ackeubu_: that's not a service, those are keymapping settings - just go fiddle around the preferences menu
[08:29] <thedude> yeah I can get linux to install fine on my pc and g4, and os8 that came with the g3 imac insalls fine too
[08:29] <garryF> Dunno what azureus  is
[08:30] <garryF> !azureus > garryF
[08:30] <Vhata> thedude: any luck with reinstalling gnome-panel?
[08:30] <miguelsr> some one know how to delet a program that was install by automatix?
[08:30] <thedude> vhata: I have the command line now
[08:30] <Vhata> !azureus > Vhata
[08:30] <thedude> vhata: and did sude -s
[08:30] <thedude> sudo*
[08:30] <Vhata> thedude: and?
[08:30] <garryF> Package manager should help you delete stuff you don't want.
[08:30] <Ackeubu_> Vhata, they worked when i installed ubuntu, not doing any extra settings. now they dont work anymore.. so. something must have been broken in the process..
[08:30] <bobbyw> azureus blows.
[08:31] <nathan_> agreed
[08:31] <blarp> duh
[08:31] <bobbyw> I figured no one would have that answer
[08:31] <thedude> vhata: that's as far as I know how to go, I'm not very familiar with the *nix terminal
[08:31] <bobbyw> what should I use?
[08:31] <z0rz> bobby, nathan what do you use?
[08:31] <Vhata> does dpkg have a 'verify installed package' thing somewhere?
[08:31] <z0rz> "Bit comment"
[08:31] <bobbyw> I've used uTorrent up until now
[08:31] <Vhata> thedude: are you in a root shell now?
[08:31] <thedude> vhata: yeah
[08:31] <nathan_> i use a windows client, i won't be any help
[08:31] <z0rz> uTorrent for linux/
[08:31] <Vhata> thedude: run 'aptitude reinstall gnome-panel'
[08:31] <nathan_> utorrent is windows only
[08:31] <z0rz> yeah uTorrent is da shiznit
[08:31] <z0rz> too bad this is #ubuntu
[08:31] <bobbyw> bitcommet is banned at my torrent site
[08:31] <Ackeubu_> Vhata there are alot of things broken,nowadays, things that I took for granted before. like automount. should I just reinstall ubuntu? there is so many small things that I dont really now how to fix, and might even not know are broken...
[08:31] <blarp> to get X working on Debian (and maybe Ubuntu?) see http://dw.ccsh.us/doku.php?id=debian
[08:31] <bobbyw> utorrent + wine = awesomeness.
[08:32] <Vhata> Ackeubu_: what happened that broke them?
[08:32] <bobbyw> utorrent + wine > azureus.
[08:32] <z0rz> so what's the best IDE for Ubuntu ?
[08:32] <linus004> miguelsr: go to www.getautomatix.com    they have an uninstall page that tells how to remove each program.
[08:32] <blarp> z0rz: Im partial to vim
[08:32] <z0rz> I want to be able to do C++, Java, and maybe some PHP
[08:32] <thedude> vhata: ok, it's intsalled, should I restart?
[08:32] <nathan_> ok, do init.d scripts use the same syntax as normal shell scripts?
[08:33] <Vhata> thedude: try logging back into Gnome again
[08:33] <thedude> ok
[08:33] <garryF> I've seen things like this before, where an installed driver or app works fine, until I reboot because the config didn't put the drivers in the start up scripts.
[08:33] <DeadlyTiga> jo
[08:33] <nathan_> so if i just want it to run this program as a service with no options, it'd just be a text file with the path to the program?
[08:33] <Ackeubu_> vhata as I said, they are little things. I have just started to find them missing thing by thing. and I dont really know what broke them. I have installed windowmanagers and other apps. continously and i dotn know when things started to get messed up... >P
[08:33] <DeadlyTiga> hi
[08:33] <blarp> nathan_: init.d scripts do whatever language you want -- mine do perl, for example
[08:34] <DeadlyTiga> is there anyone who has knowledge with 5.1 surroudn sound and nforce2 chipset?
[08:34] <z0rz> What's the best PDF reader for ubuntu?
[08:34] <Vhata> evince
[08:34] <blarp> KPDF
[08:34] <nathan_> do i have to tell the init script the path that the app should look in?
[08:34] <blarp> nathan_: yes
[08:34] <z0rz> Why do I always hate KDE/Gnome Specfic applications
[08:34] <nathan_> how do i do that? export PATH = $PATH:"/path" ?
[08:34] <thedude> vhata: if this doesn't work, should I look into getting the KDE version?
[08:35] <garryF> DeadlyTiga: I would go to a command line and run alsamixer to set those things like surround sound. There is probably an easier way via the gui but I forgot where.
[08:35] <Ackeubu_> Vhata: I thought they where missing because i didnt use gnome, but fluxobx or enlightenment. and when i got back to gnome, they didnt work there neither.. >P
[08:35] <z0rz> I feel as if they are just hastly put together and probably suck.. just because KDE primary focus is a windows manager .. not a PDF reader
[08:35] <Vhata> thedude: have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there were any error messages there that might tell us what's wrong?
[08:35] <blarp> nathan_: poe around and look at the apache2 start-up script
[08:35] <Vhata> Ackeubu_: I'm not really sure, then?
[08:35] <blarp> s/poe/poke/
[08:35] <thedude> vhata: when the splash screen is loading it says ppbuttonload failed
[08:35] <Ackeubu_> can i reinstall ubuntu without formating the drive?\
[08:36] <DeadlyTiga> garryF: i looked everywhere and tried everything with alsamixer, and when i run in a terminal "speaker -test" for 6ch it is perfect. but no programm uses 5.1 although i acticated it in the software
[08:36] <thedude> I think it said something like ppbuttonload, too fast for me to read
[08:47] <MZM> how to set environmental variables for Apache??
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> ask in #apache
[08:47] <thedude> vhata: I'm getting sound noqw
[08:47] <Vhata> thedude: so, a different error message?
[08:47] <Vhata> thedude: i.e. something was fixed?
[08:47] <DeadlyTiga> "speaker-test -c6 -D plug:surround51" is the command i use, there every single speaker makes the sound when he is called, but no where else i have 5.1 ./
[08:47] <thedude> vhata: same error 3 message, also "there was an eror starting Gnome Settings Daemon"
[08:47] <garryF> thedude: The other idea is if you can run a command line editor you might be able do do something like sudo editorname /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to say "vesa" to at least get it started with a generic driver. Editors like Joe, vi, pico, etc.
[08:47] <MZM> fyrestrtr: from Apache manual: "... you must use the standard environment manipulation mechanisms provided by your operating system shell."
[08:47] <garryF> DeadlyTiga Hmm, that is very odd.
[08:47] <Vhata> garryF: you think it's a graphics problem?
[08:47] <thedude> garryF: that's a lot of stuff that I don't know how to do
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> MZM: that would be export VARNAME=value
[08:47] <Vhata> thedude: I have to get to work, bbiab
[08:47] <garryF> Vhata Might be, hasn't been ruled out.
[08:47] <blarp> MZM: that means you set them in the shell ... not apache
[08:47] <DeadlyTiga> for example i take amarok and use xine with alsa and surround 5.1 but i only have stereo 2.0 :)
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> lol @ stereo 2.0
[08:47] <garryF> thedude sec ...
[08:47] <gabber38209> does anyone here have any experience w/ connecting p2k motorola phones to linux?
[08:47] <Ackeubu_> Vhata: i just say someone speaking about gnome-settings-deamon, I ran it. and now my things work.. loool
[08:47] <MZM> fyrestrtr: yeah, on Gentoo it is /etc/env.d/apache, but uon Ubuntu???
[08:47] <blarp> =)
[08:47] <thedude> IDL:img.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[08:47] <DeadlyTiga> so i think there must be something missing that tells the software to use the 5.1
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> DeadlyTiga: maybe the software doesn't support it?
[08:47] <gabber38209> does anyone here have any experience w/ connecting p2k motorola phones to linux?
[08:47] <DeadlyTiga> but i am new to linux so no idea :) the closed source driver are worst
[08:47] <DeadlyTiga> well i have this in vlc, amarok, xmms, player, quod libet, unreal tournament 2004 :)
[08:47] <DeadlyTiga> and totem, too
[08:47] <miguelsr> some one know how do i do to erase o delete mozilla web broser?
[08:47] <Ackeubu_> where does gnome-settings-deamon store its values?
[08:47] <damnation> !wifi
[08:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:47] <stefg> !install
[08:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:47] <garryF> thedude at failsafe line do sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the line that say driver name in double quotes. Change it to say vga. Then Ctrl-s to save, then Ctrl-x to exit. Then try restarting gnome.
[08:47] <snooplsm> azureus notification tab never goes away, any fixes?
[08:47] <thedude> garryF: ok
[08:47] <DeadlyTiga> and when the preferences of a software have something like "surround 5.1" as a possibity to choose i think they supportit
[08:47] <garryF> thedude What video card do you have?
[08:47] <danf_1979> Who can find this package with aptitude? |aptitude search libcrypto++-dev|
[08:47] <danf_1979> I can install it, but not find it
[08:47] <danf_1979> is there any problem with the search sintax?
[08:47] <danf_1979> must I escape something in there?
[08:47] <thedude> garryF: if I remember it's ati rage or somethign like that
[08:47] <blarp> danf_1979: try apt-cache policy  libcrypto++-dev
[08:47] <blarp> ATI Rage128 -- just like mine thedude
[08:47] <thedude> yep, thanks
[08:47] <blarp> np
[08:47] <bll3r87> hello everyone
[08:47] <thedude> it's been so long since I've even touched this thing
[08:47] <bll3r87> I have a quick question, i tried both Movie Player and Xine, but i cant seem to get eathier one to play a DVD im trying to run
[08:47] <dazvid> Does anyone in here use a G15 keyboard?
[08:47] <blarp> 233MHz, I can imagine
[08:47] <bll3r87> id really hate to have to switch to my windows side to watch this DVD
[08:47] <stefg> !restricted > bll3r87
[08:47] <mercykiller> bll3r87: Try mplayer
[08:47] <danf_1979> is there any problem with the aptitude (or apt-get) search function? I ask this because I am coding a script that relies on aptitude findings...
[08:47] <danf_1979> :(
[08:47] <thedude> "dev/pmi doesn't exist" when I force it to load textbased
[08:47] <bll3r87> hm mplayer
[08:47] <bll3r87> ill try that
[08:47] <bll3r87> i tried VLC player too, that one works good with divx files
[08:47] <dazvid> danf_1979, its apt-cache search not apt-get
[08:47] <stefg> bll3r87: you need libdvdcss... w/o it NO player will play DVDs
[08:47] <danf_1979> yes, sorry
[08:47] <bll3r87> hm i got them
[08:47] <danf_1979> daniel@www:~$ apt-cache search libcrypto++-dev
[08:47] <danf_1979> daniel@www:~$
[08:47] <bll3r87> i checked the system packages
[08:47] <yoko-lap> ok, please help me.  I had 5.10 installed on my laptop and everything worked fine. I upgraded to dapper and it kept freezing up.  I downloaded the install CD and it kept freezing up at selecting the time zone
[08:47] <bll3r87> let me check out the mplayer
[08:47] <bll3r87> see what i can do with that
[08:47] <bll3r87> one second
[08:47] <stefg> !libdvdcss
[08:47] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:47] <yoko-lap> I installed ubuntu with protected video mode or whatever the option is and now I am using a small square of my monitor
[08:47] <yoko-lap> it has an ati vid card that was supporter (or worked) in previous version
[08:47] <stefg> !fixres yoko-lap
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about fixres yoko-lap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <yoko-lap> any suggestions
[08:47] <stefg> !fixres > yoko-lap
[08:47] <yoko-lap> not res
[08:47] <yoko-lap> more like fix ati driver
[08:47] <yoko-lap> as I think the system was crashing on the driver
[08:47] <mercykiller> bll3r87: You might also want to install win32codecs while you're at it.
[08:47] <blarp> to get X working on Debian (and maybe Ubuntu?) see http://dw.ccsh.us/doku.php?id=debian
[08:47] <yoko-lap> it's working kind of...
[08:47] <thedude> garryF: I loaded that conf file into pico, and it's blank
[08:47] <blarp> ouchies
[08:47] <stefg> yoko-lap: you have to tell the kernel to use a frambuffer resolution. Add something like vga=791 to your boot arguments
[08:47] <thedude> garryF: should I do it from root? or will that make a difference
[08:47] <yoko-lap> huh?
[08:48] <m3talc0re> hey
[08:48] <m3talc0re> i download and installed the Xubuntu and Kubuntu crap
[08:48] <garryF> thedude: No, it won't help. If your xorg.conf is blank it means it's missing. that is serious. I suggest you do what Vhata said and install breezy and then try upgrading to dapper.
[08:48] <m3talc0re> now, when i start up Ubuntu, the login screen stays as Kubuntu's
[08:48] <m3talc0re> how do i make it go back to Ubuntu's?
[08:49] <stefg> m3talc0re: sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[08:50] <bll3r87> damn
[08:50] <bll3r87> it still wont work
[08:50] <bll3r87> i installed the libdvdread
[08:50] <bll3r87> and it still says it cant handle DVD's
[08:50] <mercykiller> hmmm
[08:50] <thedude> I got it, I must have typed somethign wrong
[08:51] <yoko-lap> stefg: so, all I have to do is insert the frambuffer in xorg.conf? or where?
[08:51] <garryF> Oh cool. thedude. Now find that ati driver and change to vesa. If I said vga I might have been wrong. It's been a long time.
[08:51] <yoko-lap> and that should take care of the problem?
[08:51] <ozubu> hi all
[08:51] <yoko-lap> because it was hanging/crashing on the part where I set up my time zone in the installer
[08:51] <ozubu> I have a question about hardware compatibility
[08:52] <ozubu> should I buy a SATA HD ? or IDE ?
[08:52] <geniusvicks> how many of u have used Dapper Drake??
[08:52] <Leafw> is there any way to tell the CD/DVD creator to create the CDs as multisession? I'd like to add files later
[08:52] <Leafw> !ubotu CD
[08:52] <garryF> Sata are faster.
[08:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about CD - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:52] <thedude> garryF: like where it says "atI", change it to "vesa"?
[08:52] <m3talc0re> i miss my 74gb raptor :(
[08:52] <ozubu> I heard there are problems with SATA's - is this correct with ubuntu ?
[08:52] <stefg> yoko-lap: no... sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst... find the lines starting with 'kernel'... add vga=791 to the end of those lines. Save and reboot
[08:52] <m3talc0re> i never had a problem with it ozubu
[08:52] <geniusvicks> What is better in Dapper Drake, I have Breezy Badger running should I bother installing DD over it?
[08:52] <garryF> thedude Yes, and if that don't work try vga instead.
[08:53] <snoops> never had a problem with my sata2's on nforce4 ozubu
[08:53] <yoko-lap> do I have to turn on monitor support?
[08:53] <thedude> garryF: ok
[08:53] <yoko-lap> or anything like that?
[08:53] <ozubu> m3talc0re, u think I won't have a problem installing on a sata ?
[08:53] <stefg> bll3r87: use easyubuntu to set everything up for you. i guess you made a mistake
[08:53] <snoops> oh I had a problem installing on sata because grub decided to install on the wrong hdd (an ide instead of sata)..
[08:53] <stefg> !easyubuntu > bll3r87
[08:53] <VanDaMe> i got problem setting primary n slave bind on ubuntu
[08:53] <snoops> anyway that's easy enough to fix..
[08:53] <snoops> !grub
[08:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:54] <VanDaMe> dumping master file permission denied
[08:54] <thedude> garryF: save is ^s?
[08:54] <VanDaMe> can someone help me ?
[08:54] <snoops> that recoveringubuntuafterinstallingwindows will fix that up
[08:54] <garryF> thedude Yes if you are using pico
[08:54] <nemsb> I back here..
[08:54] <garryF> then ^x to exit and restart
[08:54] <ozubu> snoops, so what should I buy ? I am buying a new pc and I quite embarced with all the hardware issues
[08:54] <nemsb> pilgrim: full time support for ubuntu?
[08:54] <snoops> oh definitely go with sata ozubu
[08:55] <thedude> garryF: it says "XDFF ignored, mumble mumble"
[08:55] <thedude> garryF: when I went to save
[08:55] <stefg> !hardware
[08:55] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:55] <Vhata> I hate it when they mumble
[08:55] <yoko-lap> stefg: so I add it to this line?  kernel	/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[08:55] <ozubu> well, 10x, snoops
[08:55] <gabber38209> can someone help me w/ moto4lin?
[08:55] <azcazandco> pilgrim: repair disk only sees my firewire drive :(
[08:55] <nemsb> !squid
[08:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about squid - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:55] <snoops> 10 hdd's ozubu?
[08:55] <stefg> yoko-lap: yes... the display is 1024x768, right?
[08:55] <yoko-lap> yes
[08:55] <garryF> thedude Strange. Do the ctrl x then.
[08:56] <yoko-lap> but I have no refresh rate
[08:56] <stefg> ok, then vga=791
[08:56] <yoko-lap> and in 5.10 it supported up to 1400xwhatever
[08:56] <bobbyw> !women
[08:56] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[08:56] <garryF> thedude Then go in and see if the edit you did stayed.
[08:57] <thedude> garryF: ok, it did offer to save, let me recheck it to see if it appended
[08:57] <m3talc0re> wtf
[08:57] <yoko-lap> like I said, I used the safe graphics mode to install
[08:57] <m3talc0re> System>Administration>Login Window
[08:57] <thedude> garryF: yes it did
[08:57] <yoko-lap> so I don't think ubuntu loaded any drivers for my vidcard
[08:57] <garryF> It probably saved. You might be able to start gnome by doing ctrl-alt-backspace.
[08:57] <m3talc0re> it wont load!
[08:58] <garryF> thedude Oh and do exit to get out of the command line, or it might be logout.
[08:58] <stefg> yoko-lap: this means the vesa driver is used. to change that to a card-specific driver see !ati
[08:58] <dravas> I'm pretty new to Linux and I have lost my sound in Ubuntu after messing with Gnome Alsa Mixer what settings should I do to get my sound back
[08:58] <dravas> >_>
[08:58] <stefg> !sound
[08:58] <thedude> garryF: ok
[08:58] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:59] <nemsb> how to add app
[08:59] <m3talc0re> anyone?
[08:59] <yoko-lap> !ati
[08:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:59] <nemsb> how to add app?
[08:59] <bobbyw> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ why are you all not reading this/
[08:59] <nemsb> it must fill root password
[09:00] <nemsb> !samba
[09:00] <stefg> bobbyw: any particular reason you're in crusade mode right now?
[09:00] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:00] <bobbyw> crusade mode?
[09:00] <bobbyw> it's just funny
[09:00] <thedude> garryF: wow, that made it worse, let me switch it to "vga"
[09:00] <bobbyw> read 3.3
[09:00] <bobbyw> "Don't call people bitches"
[09:00] <garryF> thedude Ok
[09:00] <m3talc0re> nobody has a clue huh?
[09:01] <Vhata> we have clues.
[09:01] <m3talc0re> appearently not
[09:01] <Vhata> I can't even find the question you're asking
[09:01] <m3talc0re> System>Administration>Login Window, it wont load
[09:01] <m3talc0re> it just shows the status change for the mouse icon, it goes away and nothing happens
[09:02] <bobbyw> hmm?
[09:02] <Vhata> what is "Login Window" supposed to do?  is that like a terminal?
[09:02] <m3talc0re> no?
[09:02] <m3talc0re> trying to install a theme/login screen
[09:02] <Vhata> I don't know the new Ubuntu terminology
[09:02] <Bergcube> bobbyw~  I did read it a few years ago.  I was very not impressed.  The writer talked down to the reader in a very condescending way.  And worse it was very much focused on the small part of the world known as USA.  Perhaps it has some useful function to fill in that small part, but I am not sure.  In scandinavia there's no need to advocate like that; equal rights and opportunities are taken for granted and women come to Linux on their own accord.
[09:02] <xjl> hi, i install ubuntu in default language(english) and now i want to let it support another language how can i do?
[09:02] <m3talc0re> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=43141
[09:03] <stefg> Vhata: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[09:03] <uniscript> !language
[09:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:03] <m3talc0re> Vhata, you get the link?
[09:04] <uniscript> xjl: look for the corresponding language-<lang> package in synaptec or wherever
[09:04] <bobbyw> Bergcube: and in many other countries people would stone you for talking about equal rights.
[09:04] <stefg> !offtopic
[09:04] <Bergcube> xjl~  System / Administartion / Language Support
[09:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:04] <rob> is the ubuntu mail forwarder having issues at the moment?
[09:04] <dravas> hooray
[09:05] <dravas> my sound is back
[09:05] <dravas> :D
[09:05] <garryF> Grats!
[09:05] <xjl> bergcube i want to use apt install
[09:05] <VanDaMe> heyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:05] <bobbyw> what I don't get is why we need to ENCOURAGE women into linux.. it's there. if they want it, go for it. it's not like drugs where you try it and get hooked, and white males make big cash
[09:05] <xjl> how can i do it?
[09:05] <VanDaMe> help me plz
[09:05] <m3talc0re> small part of the world called USA?
[09:05] <uniscript> xjl: which language (2 letter code)
[09:05] <xjl> uniscript chinese
[09:05] <thedude> garryF: still just as bad
[09:05] <bobbyw> and even then, when was the last time you saw a drug addict/dealer going "come on dude, do it. smoke my stash. smoke it. now."
[09:06] <uniscript> xjl: mainland?
[09:06] <Vhata> m3talc0re: run 'gdmsetup' from a shell
[09:06] <m3talc0re> whah?
[09:06] <Bergcube> bobbyw~  Shouldn't you be ranting in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[09:06] <uniscript> xjl: sudo apt-get install language-pack-zh
[09:06] <nemsb> im looking for vlc player in ubuntu
[09:07] <xjl> thanks
[09:07] <Vhata> m3talc0re: run a terminal?  then run 'sudo gdmsetup'
[09:07] <garryF> thedude Hmmm, it might be case sensitive. I would do what Vhata said, to get breezy and upgrade to dapper with that, or just stay with breezy. I liked it better than dapper.
[09:07] <snoops> sudo apt-get install vlc nemsb
[09:07] <bobbyw> Bergcube: I thought the topic here was linux. and stuff about linux. like women useing it
[09:07] <stefg> nemsb: http://nightlies.videolan.org
[09:07] <bobbyw> apt-get makes the whole process much easier.
[09:07] <caturOK> hello
[09:07] <stefg> !patience > VanDaMe
[09:07] <m3talc0re> Failed to connect to socket
[09:08] <caturOK> anybody here know about nocat configuration
[09:08] <m3talc0re> that's what it says
[09:08] <Vhata> garryF: stop accusing me of telling him to install breezy, that was somebody else ;-)
[09:08] <caturOK> help me plz
[09:08] <thedude> garryF: I think I'm going to just let this thing collect dust for a few more years,  it's not worth the agrivation
[09:08] <caturOK>  nocat plz
[09:08] <caturOK> ;)
[09:08] <m3talc0re> Could not access GDM configuration file.
[09:08] <garryF> thedude I might get whacked for saying so but I read that mephis linux has far better hardware detection than lots of distros.
[09:08] <uniscript> xjl: you'll also want: sudo apt-get install language-support-zh
[09:08] <thedude> garryF: thanks for your help
[09:08] <VanDaMe> wek caturOK ada disini juga :p
[09:08] <Vhata> thedude
[09:08] <garryF> Sorry Vhata I forgot how to spell the other person's name.
[09:08] <caturOK> wehehee
[09:08] <Vhata> thedude: hang on one sec
[09:08] <medfly> what do i need to install to be able to compile things?..
[09:08] <stefg> !build
[09:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:09] <caturOK> how about nocat
[09:09] <caturOK> anybody here ever configure that auth
[09:09] <medfly> thanks
[09:09] <garryF> thedude welcome. I hope you get ubuntu working.    Done
[09:11] <nemsb> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:11] <nemsb> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[09:11] <caturOK> hey
[09:11] <garryF> apt-get install debsubs
[09:11] <vortexvein> How do I add program shortcuts in the Applications Menu? Thank you to whoever in advance.
[09:11] <m3talc0re> Vhata, i tried "sudo gdmsetup" in Terminal and it told me it failed to connect to socket and Could not access GDM configuration file.
[09:11] <nemsb> i hate that error
[09:11] <caturOK> why u don't see www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:11] <thedude> vhata: ok
[09:11] <garryF> Oopse, he might need sudo before that.
[09:11] <Johnny> can someone help me with the installation process?
[09:12] <Johnny> everytime i get to 87% of installing the base system it quits on me
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> vortexvein: use the alacarte menu editor
[09:12] <caturOK> what u want apt-get
[09:12] <linuxboy> Johnny: dapper ?
[09:12] <caturOK> see www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:12] <Johnny> breezy
[09:12] <linuxboy> Johnny: oh. does it give any error messages ?
[09:12] <caturOK> why u not try to google
[09:12] <Johnny> i installed it last week and it worked fine
[09:12] <garryF> Hmmm, with so many having issues with installing, I wonder if the repositories are borked somehow.
[09:12] <Vhata> thedude: tell me when it's done
[09:12] <Johnny> but i didnt put enough swap so im reinstalling
[09:12] <Johnny> yea
[09:13] <ttyfscker> somebody tell me how to fix this dang locale crap..
[09:13] <caturOK> "sources.list"breezy
[09:13] <vortexvein> johnny - I had this same problem, I used a different linux disc to erase the partition and then used ubuntu installation again and it worked
[09:13] <Johnny> it says coulding install initr.d and to check the /var/log/syslog
[09:13] <Johnny> but i dont know what to look for
[09:13] <Johnny> or what to do
[09:13] <garryF> The servers were down for a day on weekend, there might still be issues.
[09:13] <vortexvein> try what I did Johnny
[09:13] <Johnny> yea vortexvein
[09:13] <ttyfscker> Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[09:13] <ttyfscker>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[09:13] <Johnny> i have 5 cd's
[09:13] <Johnny> i keep switching to see if one will work
[09:13] <Johnny> none do
[09:14] <Johnny> i even used windows xp to erase all the partitions
[09:14] <thedude> garryF: that conf file will not come back up now, for me to even change back
[09:14] <FSK405C> anyone got a power pc supported hardware link?
[09:14] <vortexvein> oh, another thing I tried to do, Johnny, was that instead of using the entire disc for a new partition
[09:14] <Johnny> what am i supposed to look for in the /var/log/syslog?
[09:14] <vortexvein> I left alot of free space behind
[09:14] <vortexvein> and then thats what finally worked
[09:15] <garryF> thedude sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <Johnny> i've gone to every option
[09:15] <Johnny> like how much?
[09:15] <Johnny> a gig?
[09:15] <vortexvein> i gave ubuntu only 20 gigs
[09:15] <vortexvein> the rest i left free
[09:15] <Johnny> how much swap?
[09:15] <vortexvein> 1.2
[09:15] <Johnny> is that all?
[09:15] <trjones_> anyone know about a "configure: WARNING: FreeType is missing." erroe when installing wine?
[09:15] <Johnny> no lvm?
[09:15] <m3talc0re> don't look like i'm gettin' help
[09:15] <vortexvein> no lvm
[09:16] <nemsb> vortexvein: bigger than me
[09:16] <trjones_> i've looked everywhere
[09:16] <garryF> sounds like a missing font.
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> trjones_: read http://wiki.winehq.org/Recommended_Packages
[09:16] <Johnny> where did you put the free space vortexvein
[09:16] <Johnny> in the ubuntu partition
[09:16] <Johnny> or the swap area
[09:17] <vortexvein> I had 160 gigs on this disc, gave 20 gigs to an Ubuntu partition, 1.2 gigs for Swap (don't think this was necessary), and then the rest I left free space unpartitioned.
[09:17] <Johnny> or does it matter
[09:17] <thedude> vhata: what's the command to sintall the debsums?
[09:17] <Johnny> well im on a laptop
[09:17] <Vhata> thedude: aptitude install debsums
[09:17] <trjones_> fyrestrtr, ahah! thanks I think this is the fix
[09:17] <vortexvein> nemsb, I've been meaning too loose wieght if thats what you ment, haha
[09:17] <Johnny> and the hard drive is only 30gigs
[09:17] <trjones_> lemme give it a shot
[09:17] <Vhata> thedude: if you're not in a root shell, put 'sudo' before that
[09:17] <FSK405C> hey - can anyone refer me to a list of ppc supported hardware?
[09:17] <caturOK> don't forget sudo
[09:17] <nemsb> hehe
[09:17] <caturOK> how about my ques
[09:17] <thedude> vhata: did that
[09:18] <Vhata> thedude: installed now?
[09:18] <stipe> ugh when is ubuntu gonna have broadcom support?
[09:18] <nemsb> vortexvein: i mean swap file.. not my body..
[09:18] <caturOK> nobody here know about my ques
[09:18] <m3talc0re> hello, hello, hello
[09:18] <m3talc0re> this thing on?
[09:18] <vortexvein> haha
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> trjones_: I'm doing the exact same thing you are :)
[09:18] <vortexvein> I know nemsb.
[09:18] <Johnny> does it matter if its primary or logical vortexvein ?
[09:18] <thedude> vhata: forgot the aptitude
[09:18] <vortexvein> I used Primary
[09:18] <caturOK> jis
[09:18] <Johnny> or ext3 ?
[09:18] <nemsb> vortexvein: i have 2 G RAM
[09:18] <vortexvein> 512 , nemsb
[09:18] <thedude> vhata: ok, it's installed
[09:18] <nemsb> very with Xeon Dual Core
[09:18] <vortexvein> ext3 is important.
[09:19] <stipe> my ubuntu box in X ran like shit with 512mb
[09:19] <nemsb> very fast with Xeon Dual Core
[09:19] <vortexvein> I had ext3, primary partition, and logical for the swap
[09:19] <Vhata> thedude: what debsums does is, it checks all the files installed by a package to see if they've changed since it was installed
[09:19] <nemsb> stipe: use DDR2
[09:19] <thedude> ah
[09:19] <nemsb> stipe: much better
[09:19] <damnation> what program can be used to say... install ubuntu from windows? (just a random Q) like.. does virtual pc let you do that then reboot soley into a linux partition or can you not like vmware? i have nfi
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> stipe: it works very fast here with 512, and please, watch the language.
[09:19] <damnation> :P
[09:20] <Vhata> thedude: but you can only give it one package name at a time, so you have to list all packages on your machine first, and pass those to debsums
[09:20] <nemsb> vortexvein: better upgrade to 1G DDR2
[09:20] <garryF> I seem to rember some sort of command to reconfigure the video for gnome. Something that started with dpkg
[09:20] <stipe> nemsb: i was having serious lag problems. i had a 1.7 + 512mb. upgraded to a 2.8 1gb
[09:20] <stipe> HUGE difference
[09:20] <Vhata> thedude: the way to list all packages on your machine is 'dpkg -l', but that gives all sorts of extra info, too, which we don't want/need
[09:20] <medfly> stipe, same in here, i rarely use even half of that.
[09:20] <stipe> i could barley use X before. With 2 firefoxes open, xmms, and a couple of other apps
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> damnation: no, its not possible to do it from within Windows. Although you could choose to run it in a virtual machine (like vmware).
[09:20] <uniscript> damnation: I don't follow what you want to end up with? You want to run linux from within windows and direct boot?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> garryF: dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <Vhata> thedude: so, we use:  dpkg-query -W -f '${Package}\n'
[09:21] <Vhata> thedude: that will just list the package names
[09:21] <vortexvein> nemsb: won't need it for this machine, I'm going to turn it into a machine only ment for n64, snes, MAME, and other old gaming.
[09:21] <stipe> medfly: you use gnome?
[09:21] <Vhata> thedude: then you send that list to debsums, like so:   dpkg-query -W -f '${Package}\n' | xargs debsums -c
[09:21] <nemsb> stipe: i don't know what to say
[09:21] <garryF> Yep, that's the one. dkpg-reconfigure xzerver-xorg
[09:21] <medfly> stipe, yes.
[09:21] <medfly> stipe, but i rarely open firefox more than twice, and i get upset when i have more than 5 tabs open
[09:21] <thedude> vhata: do you want me to type that in?
[09:21] <stipe> medfly: heh
[09:21] <damnation> yes uniq exactly that
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> are repo servers still having problems?
[09:21] <trjones_> fyrestrtr, did you have luck with those instructions?
[09:22] <damnation> ooops/...
[09:22] <damnation> uniscript :P
[09:22] <trjones_> fyrestrtr, it did not work for me
[09:22] <nemsb> vortexvein: i love open source cause easy to manage..no virus..
[09:22] <Vhata> thedude: I'm afraid so.  it'll give you a lot of output, but you're going to need to go through it bit by bit and see if it lists any files that look like they're something to do with bonobo
[09:22] <garryF> I would try it. Its already poked, can't be more poked than it is already.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> trjones_: well, I am installing the packages right now. I have successfully compiled wine from scratch to run WoW before -- it can be done :)
[09:22] <nemsb> very stable
[09:22] <thedude> ok
[09:22] <trjones_> fyrestrtr, i assume your on amd64 also?
[09:23] <Vhata> thedude: I'm not sure if you're interested in debugging this and trying to work it out, or you just want to get something working
[09:23] <uniscript> damnation: ubuntu will happily co-exist with windows. Just defragment your windows drives and install, ubuntu will hold your hand
[09:23] <Vhata> thedude: by the way, we haven't checked your Xorg.0.log for errors yet, should probably do that first
[09:23] <damnation> i know it can, i just wondered if i can install while still logged into windows
[09:23] <nemsb> Vhata: can i install windows software in Breezy?
[09:23] <damnation> thanks though :)
[09:23] <thedude> vhata: ok
[09:23] <Vhata> nemsb: if you install wine
[09:23] <uniscript> nemsb: use wine, but get the latest version you can
[09:24] <Maroder> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/07/25/ubuntu_goes_mainstream/
[09:24] <vortexvein> nemsb: yeah, this is only my 4th day on Ubuntu. I have very high hopes so far for this Arcade-Machine project
[09:24] <Vhata> thedude: are you still in that root shell?
[09:24] <thedude> yeah
[09:24] <garryF> thedude: Another idea from the xorg.conf file is try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:24] <Johnny> it didnt work vortexvein
[09:24] <FSK405C> any supported hardware lists available for ubunt?
[09:24] <Vhata> where's that noisy guy who demands help with his gdmsetup?
[09:24] <vortexvein> sorry Johnny
[09:24] <Vhata> m3talc0re
[09:24] <vortexvein> it took me awhile and a bunch of times too
[09:24] <Johnny> it says Unable to install initrd-tools   check /target/var/log/bootstrap.og
[09:24] <vortexvein> =(
[09:24] <Johnny> log
[09:24] <Vhata> thedude: type 'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[09:24] <garryF> hehe
[09:25] <Johnny> do you know what that means?
[09:25] <Vhata> thedude: then go down to the bottom and see if there are any nasty errors
[09:25] <vortexvein> I don't know what it means for sure Johnny, you'd have to ask someone else,
[09:25] <ttyfscker> i fixed that freakin locales problem
[09:25] <Vhata> m3talc0re: are you just going to sit and whine about not getting help, or are you going to do what I suggested?
[09:25] <thedude> ok
[09:25] <snooplsm> how can I give my pc a network name
[09:25] <ttyfscker> wasnt good practice but it worked
[09:25] <garryF> Grats ttyfscker how did you do it?
[09:25] <snooplsm> it shows up blank on my router
[09:26] <ttyfscker> garryF:: id rather not say.. the chan ops will get aggrovated at the method i took to doing it
[09:26] <ttyfscker> ya know what i mean
[09:26] <Johnny> does  anyone know what to do on the installation when it cant install initrd-tools
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> no, 32
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> trjones_: how far did you get?
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> is anyone else having problems with the au archive servers?
[09:26] <Johnny> and it says to check /target/var/sys/bootstrap.log
[09:26] <garryF> ttyfscker Yeah, like ban ye for suggesting using the cli. ")
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> FSK405C: there is a list at the wiki
[09:26] <ttyfscker> haha
[09:26] <FSK405C> hrm
[09:26] <ttyfscker> yea garryF something like that..
[09:26] <FSK405C> okies, looking - thanks for pointer
[09:27] <garryF> ttyfscker Oh no, I used the three letter C word.
[09:27] <[FP2] ReDuX> morning. had a quick simple question if I may.
[09:27] <thedude> vhata: one warning, no errors
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> three letter C word? C++ ?
[09:27] <Vhata> fyrestrtr: CLI
[09:27] <garryF> cli
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> what is so bad about cli?
[09:27] <Vhata> thedude: what was the warning?  (just a summary, don't worry typing the whole thing out)
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> I lurve cli.
[09:28] <garryF> its an old story.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> ah
[09:28] <thedude> vhtata: missing a font
[09:28] <FSK405C> also if anyone has a q3/ubuntu/audio/punkbuster/teamspeak tutorial that'd be great too. on default it was borked for a friend of mine and any tips on getting that sort of thing working would be appreciated as we've exhausted web resources and tried just about everything with no success :D
[09:28] <garryF> Oh if that font is cyrillic, ignore that.
[09:28] <thedude> that be it
[09:29] <Vhata> thedude: I really doubt that's the problem, yeah
[09:29] <FSK405C> more specifically - the audio driver was claiming to be in use by one app and wouldn't allow another to access it - which means it wasn't running duplexed - how to enable such functionality? again a url or any sort of advice is welcome :D
[09:29] <trjones_> fyrestrtr, I don't think i had quite everything from the debian list so I'm trying again
[09:29] <Vhata> thedude: this vexes me.
[09:29] <trjones_> fyrestrtr, you have any luck?
[09:29] <Vhata> thedude: I am, in fact, vexed
[09:29] <garryF> thedude: Another idea from the xorg.conf file is try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:29] <thedude> haha
[09:29] <thedude> tried that
[09:29] <garryF> Or hexed
[09:29] <thedude> didn't get to test it thogh
[09:29] <thedude> though*
[09:30] <garryF> A restart might be in order to see if it fixed it.
[09:30] <thedude> ok
[09:30] <garryF> Even purplexed
[09:30] <thedude> oh shit, I didn't relize that this error log could be scrolled
[09:30] <nemsb> my line so slow
[09:31] <nemsb> have a lot of IPS
[09:31] <thedude> 2 errors
[09:31] <garryF> np, its not obvious that it can be scrolled
[09:31] <thedude> "end of block range"
[09:31] <thedude> and some vga stuff
[09:31] <garryF> restart time.
[09:31] <Vhata> thedude: 'G' I think will take you right to the end
[09:31] <garryF> get fresh slate.
[09:32] <thedude> ok
[09:32] <Vhata> thedude: how's it looking?
[09:33] <trjones_> fyrestrtr, still no luck... i give up for tonight...
[09:33] <thedude> restarting/loading splash screen right now
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> is anyone else having problems reaching au archive servers?
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> FSK405C: see !dmix
[09:35] <thedude> vhata: no change
[09:35] <thedude> should I bring that error log back up?
[09:35] <FSK405C> copy that fyre - thanks again. you are quite the helpful one =]
[09:36] <Vhata> thedude: did you go right back down to the bottom of the error log and see if there were any real errors?
[09:36] <thedude> yeah, 2 vga errors and the last one said "screen(s) not found"
[09:36] <Vhata> erm.  ah.
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> thedude: what are you trying to fix?
[09:36] <Vhata> thedude: I like garryF's idea of:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:37] <thedude> ubunto on a g3 imac from a fresh install
[09:37] <garryF> Yeah, yet he tried that, and it didn't help.
[09:38] <xjl> i want to let the system support chinese language i don't know which package should i install
[09:38] <garryF> thedude: IF you know how to pastebin, might try pasting your xorg.conf and let folks have a look.
[09:39] <thedude> unfortuneatly that computer is not on the internet
[09:39] <uniscript> xjl: you'll also need sudo apt-get install language-support-zh
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> xjl: sudo apt-get install language-pack-zh language-pack-gnome-zh (or language-pack-kde-zh)
[09:39] <uniscript> sorry I mentioned it after you had gone
[09:39] <thedude> I'm too far from the router, I'm wireless on this one
[09:39] <uniscript> the language pack is merely translations, the language-support is the fonts, keyboards etc.
[09:40] <uniscript> fyrestrtr: I think language-pack depends on language-pack-gnome
[09:40] <xjl>  uniscript sorry i not use ubuntu now i use slackware
[09:40] <uniscript> then go to a slackware forum
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> uniscript: hrmm, would make sense.
[09:40] <dravas> how do I find my pass for su su: Authentication failure
[09:40] <xjl> yes i find it but no result
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> dravas: its your own user password
[09:40] <damnation> how much hdd space should i partition for ubuntu, im using the single CD install
[09:40] <dravas> ok
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> dravas: and use sudo
[09:40] <uniscript> xjl: or install ubuntu ;)
[09:41] <garryF> I wonder what the apt command for reinstalling xorg and gnome would be.
[09:41] <xjl> yes i install ubuntu in my notebook
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> damnation: 20 GB should be enough, 4 GB is minimum required (not including swap).
[09:41] <damnation> or in other words how much should i give to ubuntu at least, space-wise
[09:41] <uniscript> damnation: for a comfortable life min 5GB
[09:41] <damnation> i see...
[09:41] <thedude> another warning: cannot shadow an accelerated frame buffer
[09:41] <xjl> ubuntu need more resources so in my old PC i install slackware
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> garryF: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ubuntu-desktop
[09:41] <damnation> thanks :)
[09:41] <axyjo> hey, i reinstalled ubuntu on my pc so what should i install, automatix or easyubuntu?
[09:41] <Vhata> xjl: install language-pack-zh
[09:42] <uniscript> xjl: and you want chinese in X on an old slow low RAM machine. I think not
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: why do you need either of them?
[09:42] <thedude> a bunch of wacom errors
[09:42] <xjl> i only want to let firefox display chinese website.
[09:42] <garryF> thedude:  Might try what fyrestrtr says. ....    sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> thedude: those you can ignore.
[09:42] <axyjo> fyrestrtr: my question is what do they each do?
[09:42] <uniscript> xjl: try puppylinux and find a chinese plugin there
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> thedude: for some reason, ubuntu writes the config in X for wacom tablets.
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> axyjo: they automate installation of common things (like audio and video codecs, java, flash, etc)
[09:43] <garryF> People have been having issues with both scripts unfortunately.
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> !automatix
[09:43] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:43] <xjl> where ? can you give URL?
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> !easyubuntu
[09:43] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:43] <axyjo> !easyubuntu
[09:43] <axyjo> so they are the same thing?
[09:44] <kakalto> if I had ubuntu previously installed, and I just installed a new network card, what could I do to get it running?
[09:44] <Vhata> if they were the same thing, they would have the same name
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> no, but they do the same type of function.
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> its best to follow the wiki and do things "manually"
[09:44] <thedude> the only other error says "end of block range" with some hexidecimal after it
[09:44] <garryF> easyubuntu is simpler, automatix is more complicated but more options. I agree with fyrestrtr. Use the wikis
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: well, first you would need to find out if it was detected properly.
[09:44] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: ok, which is done with lspci?
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: easy way to find that out, is to open the gnome-network-manager and see if your new card is there :)
[09:45] <axyjo> sorry.. didnt catch whatever was last said
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: lspci will just detect what is in the system, not necessarily what will work. For example, it will show you an unsupported winmodem.
[09:45] <kakalto> ah, true
[09:45] <kakalto> argh
[09:45] <kakalto> uhm
[09:45] <DrBashir> Hi
[09:46] <kakalto> it's kubuntu, btw. suppose I should /really/ just go over to #kubuntu ._.
[09:46] <kakalto> hi, DrBashir
[09:46] <thedude> i tried the apt-get and it says it's already the newest version
[09:46] <garryF> axyjo: both scripts do automation, but there have been bugs in both. Automatix is more complicated, more options and more fun ways to mess stuff up.
[09:47] <DrBashir> I'm having trouble starting from CD, I've tried graphical safe mode, but it keeps ending up with a black screen :
[09:47] <DrBashir> :|
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: well, some stuff is common. kde, gnome, xfce are all just gui interfaces. They are really independent of the base linux system. Sure each has their own specific tools that are great (like k3b for burning cds) but the cli is the great equalizer :)
[09:47] <garryF> try reinstall instead of install
[09:47] <garryF> thedude:  Might try what fyrestrtr says. ....    sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg ubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <kakalto> DrBashir: yeah, but I doubt I'll get CLI instructions for what I'm wanting
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: if you are nice, you just might ;)
[09:48] <DrBashir> kakalto... huh?
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> thedude: how is it coming along?
[09:48] <garryF> might see what ifconfig says.
[09:48] <thedude> reinstall is not a valid command
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> thedude: what are the EE lines that you get in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:49] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: yeah? pretty please, CLI =P
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> errm, sorr /var/log/xorg.0.log
[09:49] <DrBashir> Maybe this helps (or not) I have an Ati X800
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> or is it Xorg.0.log, I forgot.
[09:49] <kakalto> DrBashir: I'm wanting to get a network card working.
[09:50] <dravas> How do I install VMWare
[09:50] <garryF> I think you are right, its xorg.0.log
[09:50] <DrBashir> oh...
[09:50] <medfly> can i do anything about that my graphics card manufacturer doesnt like xorg? like link the xfree86 dirs to the xorg ones? will that work? :o)
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: first thing, what kind of network card is it?
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> medfly: what card do you have?
[09:50] <thedude> fyrestrtr: none in the conf
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> !vmware
[09:50] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[09:51] <medfly> fyrestrtr, a via unichrome S3 pro
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> thedude: yeah, that was a mistake, they will be in the log file
[09:51] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: 3com 10/100 card..
[09:51] <medfly> medfly, i downloaded the source for the driver from their website.
[09:51] <fyrestrtr> medfly: that should work.
[09:51] <m3talc0re> good lord
[09:51] <medfly> medfly, thank you
[09:51] <m3talc0re> kopete took forever and a day to list all the names and crap
[09:51] <medfly> why am i writing my own nick?
[09:51] <thedude> just the wacom errors, and that "end of block range" error
[09:51] <DrBashir> Ok, so how do I get to run Ubuntu?
[09:51] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: 3c905, it seems
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: okay, next thing type dmesg | grep eth -- see if your new card is detected there.
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> medfly: why?
[09:52] <medfly> medfly, because when i look at something i see something else :-)
[09:52] <kevinz> Hello, bittorrent and edonkey is blocked by my isp, what is some possible alternatives for p2p file sharing?
[09:52] <garryF> lack of sleep?
[09:53] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: want the whole line? it's detected eth1.
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> thedude: okay, can you be a bit more specific?
[09:53] <medfly> probably. thats what happens when i dont get my good 12 hours sleep on time ;)
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: no, that's enough for me.
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: now type ifconfig -a -- do you see a eth1 there?
[09:54] <thedude> fyrestrtr: with the end of block range error?
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> kevinz: direct connect?
[09:54] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: eth1 is there, yup
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> thedude: yeah
[09:54] <garryF> I'm not sure thedude.
[09:54] <kevinz> fyrestrtr: hmm, i don't care
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: okay, does your network have dhcp?
[09:54] <DrBashir> Can I try the 32bit version on my AMD64?
[09:54] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: yes.
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !p2p > kevinz
[09:54] <axyjo> is xfdc faster than gnome and do all gnome applications run on it?
[09:55] <garryF> Oh thedude Do you have shadow ram option in your cmos? If its there, turn it off.
[09:55] <kevinz> fyrestrtr: thanks
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: type sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[09:55] <garryF> I remember, you mentioned an error about shadow ram.
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> DrBashir: yes, it should work.
[09:55] <DrBashir> thanks fyrestrtr
[09:55] <DrBashir> i'll give that a go
[09:55] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: I get no output.... and it's not working.
[09:55] <garryF> sometimes it's called copy video bios to ram. It was in use when ram was faster than rom.
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: hold on a sec, now type ifconfig
[09:56] <DrBashir> bless my 20mbit connection, less then 5 minutes to download a new image
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: how many interfaces do you see there?
[09:56] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: eth1 and lo.
[09:56] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: eth1 has a 169.something address
[09:57] <kevinz> Hello. Is it possible to use input method (like scim) in kde programs (under Ubuntu)?
[09:57] <axyjo> !xdfc
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about xdfc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:57] <uniscript> kevinz: yes
[09:57] <axyjo> !xfdc
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfdc - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:57] <kakalto> kevinz: yup
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: then it seems to be working fine.
[09:57] <garryF> thedude If you have shadow ram turned on, in cmost, it should probably be turned off for linux. I seem to remember you said something about an error about shadow ram.
[09:57] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: it shouldn't have a 169.254 address.
[09:57] <kevinz> oh but how to enable it
[09:57] <DrBashir> 169.254 adresses == bad
[09:57] <garryF> thedude er cmos
[09:57] <thedude> how do I turn that off?
[09:57] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: it should have a 192.168, assigned by my router.
[09:57] <axyjo> !XFCE
[09:57] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> kakalto: 169.254.blah.blah is an automated address assigned when dhcp fails.
[09:58] <axyjo> is XFCE faster than gnome and do gnome applications run on it?
[09:58] <kevinz> uniscript: so could you teach me how to activate the input method for kde programs.. it currently doesn't work for amarok
[09:58] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: that's what I thought
[09:58] <medfly> axyjo, its faster than gnome, yes
[09:58] <garryF> thedude Reboot, get into the setup, the bios stuff, it should tell you how to enter your bios setup menus. Sometimes its F2 pressing while the memory is counting up.
[09:58] <uniscript> kevinz: Try installing skim
[09:58] <thedude> it won't let me back into that error log even in root
[09:58] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: am I meant to install some dhcp package?
[09:59] <thedude> ok
[09:59] <InvisiblePinkUni> when i'm trying to install dapper on IBM Raid machine it shows 2 disks and asks me to partition them?
[09:59] <axyjo> do gnome applications run on it?
[09:59] <InvisiblePinkUni> they are already mirrored.
[09:59] <uniscript> kevinz: scim and kde are only marginally friendly. I'm no kde expert. But try right clicking to get a context menu and choose scim input
[09:59] <uniscript> kevinz: but many apps don't support scim at all well
[10:00] <InvisiblePinkUni> !raid
[10:00] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> yeah dhcp-client
[10:00] <axyjo> thedude: sometimes its also the delete key
[10:00] <garryF> !ati > thedude
[10:00] <thedude> the imac dosen't have a del key
[10:01] <DrBashir> its going to take longer to burn the CD then to download ^^
[10:01] <garryF> backspace?
[10:01] <thedude> and f2 doesn't worl
[10:01] <thedude> yeah I'll try that
[10:01] <garryF> Hmmm, sec ....
[10:01] <yacek19> hi
[10:01] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: is the 3com driver not working or something?
[10:01] <yacek19> are there any packages for dapper with e17??
[10:01] <kakalto> fyrestrtr: is it possible that it's trying to use the wrong driver?
[10:01] <thedude> nothing
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> brb
[10:02] <InvisiblePinkUni> why does Dapper not recognize my IBM Raid? Any work arounds for RAID?
[10:02] <kakalto> yacek19: heard of the easy e17 cvs script?
[10:02] <nemsb> kakalto: maybe wrong version, i think
[10:02] <yacek19> no, I am looking for unofficial packages
[10:03] <kakalto> yacek19: not sure about that. but there's quite possibly a repo around somewhere
[10:03] <axyjo> do gnome applications run on xfce?
[10:03] <kakalto> nemsb: any ideas how to fix it?
[10:03] <caturOK> how to look user want to register
[10:03] <caturOK> nocat plz
[10:03] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[10:03] <uniscript> axyjo: with the right libraries installed, yes
[10:03] <garryF> thedude here is a possible fix ...
[10:03] <garryF> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/24810
[10:03] <garryF> go into the responses/comments and download the r128_cceidle.diff file and follow his instructions.
[10:03] <garryF> Using "glxgears -printfps" I went from 30 FPS to 300 FPS, and now am quite happy with my rendering capabilities. Still too slow for awesome penguin racing, but it does work now.
[10:04] <thedude> I give up, I'm going to try the kubuntu tomorow, and if that doesn't work this thing is getting scrapped
[10:04] <prwlr> how can i access my ext3 partition using cygwin?
[10:04] <nemsb> kakalto: u use pci card or built in?
[10:04] <garryF> Kubuntu uses the same xorg, you'd have hte same issue.
[10:04] <kakalto> nemsb: pci
[10:04] <ubuntu_> Thedude what issue ur having?
[10:04] <garryF> google for imac ati dapper and I found all kinds of info.
[10:04] <ubuntu_> if u dont mind plz?
[10:05] <nemsb> kakalto: i suggest u find the number above the chip set
[10:05] <axyjo> uniscript: what libraries would that be?
[10:05] <nemsb> then search in google
[10:05] <axyjo> !fluxbox
[10:05] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[10:05] <thedude> ubuntu: I get errors from a fresh install on a g3 imac, "error 3" and then nothing loads
[10:05] <nemsb> every chip set has different number
[10:05] <uniscript> axyjo: the app package will have the necessary dependencies on the library packages it needs. Generally libgnome type stuff
[10:05] <Sokatoah> Do Ubuntu or Kubuntu support intel graphics chipsets out of the box? I've been having issues getting X to run on mandrake
[10:05] <garryF> The standard thing about display not found when something is wrong and gdm can't start.
[10:05] <ubuntu_> Sokatoah, yep they do
[10:06] <kakalto> hmm.
[10:06] <kakalto> nemsb: yeah, will look
[10:06] <Sokatoah> cool, thanks
[10:06] <axyjo> uniscript: so i dont have to worry about it when installing the applications through apt-get or synaptic?
[10:06] <_jacky_> how to add my packages to ubuntu cd and install to hardware by default?
[10:06] <uniscript> axyjo: nope
[10:06] <thedude> ubuntu_: I get errors from a fresh install on a g3 imac, "error 3" and then nothing loads, along with nautilus errors
[10:06] <kakalto> nemsb: perhaps I should try on the forums?
[10:07] <ubuntu_> tried xorconf?
[10:07] <nemsb> kakalto: maybe they can help u
[10:07] <garryF> xorgconf
[10:07] <axyjo> uniscript: how do i completely remove gnome then without uninstallling the libraries for the software i want?
[10:07] <_jacky_> how to add my packages to ubuntu cd and install to harddisk by default?
[10:08] <uniscript> axyjo: I *think* you just uninstall gnome-desktop. I'll look...
[10:08] <garryF> Unless you have dialup, its cheaper to just use the online repositories because your cd copy will be obsolete as soon as updates come out.
[10:08] <ubuntu_> _jacky_, i dont get it :(
[10:08] <_jacky_> :(
[10:09] <alva> how can I mount a floppy drive in Dapper?
[10:09] <alva> !mount
[10:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:10] <nemsb> kakalto: try to search in 3com web site..
[10:10] <nemsb> maybe u can find ur answer
[10:10] <thedude> well thanks for everyone's help, but I'm giving up on this
[10:10] <Alpha232> eww who parted
[10:11] <ubuntu_> alva,  mount /media/floppy
[10:11] <axyjo> Alpha232: XD
[10:11] <Alpha232> damn open a window or somthing, it smells like someone fscked in here
[10:11] <ubuntu_> the dude, sorry no idea man
[10:11] <ubuntu_> :(
[10:11] <axyjo> Alpha232: XDXDXD
[10:11] <thedude> it's ok
[10:12] <uniscript> axyjo: try getting rid of gnome-desktop-data and all its dependents since it's not dependent on anything gnomish
[10:13] <garryF> Sorry we could not solve it so far.
[10:13] <uniscript> axyjo: but you may need to do that while not running gnome
[10:13] <uniscript> axyjo: and you'll probably lose lots of gnome apps
[10:13] <axyjo> so first i install xubuntu-desktop then uninstall gnome-desktop-data?
[10:13] <garryF> that was for thedude
[10:13] <thedude> it's alright, I might pop on tomorow night and see if anyone came up with anything
[10:13] <uniscript> axyjo: but you can reinstall the ones you want afterwards?
[10:13] <axyjo> uniscript: yes i can
[10:13] <garryF> I saw some stuff on goggle, did you see it?
[10:13] <axyjo> uniscript: how do i remove dependants from apt-get?
[10:14] <kakalto> nemsb: I just googled it, am trying some ideas other ubuntu users managed to fix it with
[10:14] <axyjo> cause it usually only removes it package itself
[10:14] <garryF> thedude https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/24810
[10:15] <uniscript> axyjo: you could try using synaptec
[10:15] <garryF> !mesa
[10:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about mesa - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:15] <axyjo> uniscript: but i thought synaptic is only for gnome
[10:15] <thedude> thanks, I'll have a look at it
[10:15] <axyjo> or is it for Xfce too?
[10:15] <ubuntu_> axyjo, nope
[10:15] <garryF> good luck. I think I look too.
[10:16] <ubuntu_> axyjo,  anything/everything
[10:16] <axyjo> ubuntu_: thanks
[10:16] <uniscript> axyjo: try aptitude then
[10:16] <ubuntu_> yw
[10:16] <axyjo> uniscript: thanks a lot
[10:16] <axyjo> uniscript: i'll brb in my new xubuntu desktop
[10:17] <ubuntu_> xubuntu is xfce4 right?
[10:17] <garryF> thedude its about five messages down. Has a url in it.
[10:18] <ubuntu_> This irc is new for me :(
[10:19] <kakalto> ubuntu_: yeah, xubuntu is xfce4
[10:19] <ubuntu_> kakalto, ty
[10:20] <ubuntu_> 1 ? i have
[10:20] <garryF> thedude You can also do sudo pico /etc/inittab and change the default runlevel from 5 to 3 and then it will boot into a command line by default. then startx should start the gui, but at least you'll start out with a command line you can work with.
[10:21] <ubuntu_> when i try to login sometime, most of the time i get error, nickname already in use
[10:21] <thedude> true
[10:21] <alva> how can I mount a floppy drive in Dapper?  it says: mount: can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:21] <thedude> thanks
[10:21] <thedude> I'm going to get to sleep for now, thanks for your help
[10:21] <garryF> welcome gnight.
[10:21] <alva> garryF, when I type mount: mount /media/floppy in dapper, it says: mount: can't find /media/floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab!  whats the fix please?
[10:22] <garryF> It should auto-mount
[10:23] <ubuntu_> alva,  try this type >> cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy
[10:23] <ubuntu_> as root
[10:23] <ubuntu_> see anything?
[10:23] <bilss_> hi
[10:23] <garryF> thanks ubuntu_ I have two linuxes, and the fstab is slighty different. It makes for much confusion when I try to remember.
[10:24] <alva> bash: cat: Permission denied
[10:24] <alva> garryF, how can I access my floppy drive?
[10:24] <garryF> put sudo before it and retry.
[10:24] <alva> garryF, I did, same message
[10:24] <bilss_> gregg_  hi yesterday you gave me a ./foward command that was incorrect i have the correct line now thanks
[10:24] <ubuntu_> np
[10:24] <alva> sudo type >> cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy says bash: cat: Permission denied
[10:25] <alva> does any1 know how I can I access my floppy drive in Dapper?
[10:25] <ubuntu_> alva,  u have to type that command as root
[10:25] <bilss_> ompal: hi take it easy
[10:25] <garryF> Ye mean he has to try su instead of su?
[10:25] <ubuntu_> become a su
[10:25] <wthww6> hello hello
[10:25] <garryF> er sudo
[10:25] <ubuntu_> sudo should work
[10:25] <Brokenstein> can anybody recommend an faq for installing packages not found in synaptic?
[10:25] <ubuntu_> garry is right
[10:25] <garryF> It didn't
[10:26] <garryF> Oh, maybe his user has no permissions to use floppy?
[10:26] <ubuntu_> root should have atleast
[10:26] <ubuntu_> if users dont
[10:26] <garryF> nm, sudo should have gotten that.
[10:27] <alva> does any1 know how I can I access my floppy drive in Dapper?  I type: sudo type >> cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy and it says no permission
[10:27] <ubuntu_> i hope alava did not type as  sudo type cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy
[10:27] <ubuntu_> dang it
[10:27] <ubuntu_> u dont have to type type
[10:27] <alva> ubuntu_, any advice?
[10:28] <ubuntu_> command is sudo cat /etc/fstab | grep floppy
[10:28] <wthww6> i got my Ubuntu Cds in the mail today. w00t
[10:28] <amarokker> wthww6: Do'h - i have to wait for about 6 weeks :(
[10:29] <wthww6> heh, the sticker you get are a nice touch
[10:29] <wthww6> *stickers
[10:29] <alva> ubuntu_, thatg works, thanks
[10:29] <alva> my floppy works now
[10:29] <alva> ty :)
[10:29] <ubuntu_> alva yw
[10:29] <garryF> Yay Ubuntu_
[10:29] <amarokker> wthww6: bumper stickers? :P
[10:29] <wthww6> lol
[10:29] <alva> i just installed Dapper, how do I get it to make sure its updated?
[10:30] <amarokker> wthww6: o
[10:30] <mog_home> hi
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> alva: it does that by itself, it will notify you of updates.
[10:30] <wthww> ahh, better
[10:30] <amarokker> wthww6: i'd downloaded a cd - it took me about 24 hours...and it wont boot.
[10:30] <mog_home> im trying to load a usb device
[10:30] <garryF> If you have net access it will check in about 3 minutes from booting automatically.
[10:30] <mog_home> that requests firmware
[10:30] <chemaja> is it in the spirit of ubuntu to !rtfm?
[10:30] <amarokker> thats why i am waiting on canonical to deliver
[10:30] <user-land> Hello, i reinstalled Ubuntu about 10 times now, and always get the 'Error activating XKB configuration.' What should i do ?
[10:30] <wthww> lol. im on dial-up and download 5. something and it worked
[10:30] <garryF> no its rtfw
[10:30] <alva> fyrestrtr, i just installed Dapper, how come its telling me I need 130 updates?
[10:30] <Schalken> is there a frontend for grub configuration?
[10:30] <mog_home> tv402u, but it keeps spitting out this error  go7007: error transferring firmware
[10:31] <mog_home> the firmware is there
[10:31] <mog_home> i dont know why it keeps doing this
[10:31] <garryF> or rtow read the outdated wikis.
[10:31] <mog_home> it works on my ppc ubuntu box
[10:31] <mog_home> just not my x86 one
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> alva: because you do need them.
[10:31] <garryF> and guess which one is up0-to-date. j/k
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> Schalken: no
[10:31] <wthww> question:ubuntu on mac, is the cd bootable on mac
[10:31] <wthww> ?
[10:32] <ubuntu_> back
[10:32] <ubuntu__> I booted kubuntu from live cd how do i install it pls????????????
[10:32] <ubuntu_> ny1 coffe?
[10:32] <garryF> I've noted sometimes my memstick is mistaken for a camera.
[10:32] <alva> fyrestrtr, takes 5 days on modem :P
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> yeap :)
[10:32] <ubuntu__> I booted kubuntu from live cd how do i install it pls????????????
[10:32] <garryF> Should be an install option under one of hte menus.
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__: #kubuntu
[10:32] <user-land> fyrestrtr: is it possible this would go away if i restarted with a fresh home directory ?
[10:32] <ubuntu__> where is hte menu??
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> user-land: what would?
[10:33] <wthww> lol
[10:33] <garryF> he gets an error activating xkb configuration.
[10:33] <user-land> fyrestrtr: i reinstalled Ubuntu about 10 times now, and always get the 'Error activating XKB configuration.' What should i do ?
[10:33] <ubuntu__> garrF: where is HTE menu install option?
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> user-land: if you've resintalled it, you don't need to worry about home directory.
[10:34] <ubuntu_> what is xfb config
[10:34] <ubuntu__> garrF: k found it
[10:34] <wthww> One very big credit to ubuntu: it made all of the local schools computers a lot less maintence prone
[10:34] <user-land> fyrestrtr: i used an existing home dir always now.
[10:34] <WhiteNinja> how about 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' manually? that would get rid off the xkd-errors, too *i guess
[10:34] <garryF> :)
[10:34] <Maroder> hello i have a question
[10:34] <user-land> what is your question, maroder ?
[10:34] <Maroder> on kubuntu 6.06
[10:35] <mog_home> anybody
[10:35] <garryF> !xkd
[10:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about xkd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:35] <garryF> !xkb
[10:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about xkb - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:35] <Maroder> my X server nolisten on any port
[10:35] <Maroder> ps output :
[10:35] <Maroder>  6355 tty7     Ss+    0:12 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-YghoYc
[10:35] <user-land> whiteninja, i get the same error after that.
[10:35] <wthww> on cd shipping date: mine took liked, 3 weeks
[10:35] <Maroder> i edit /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[10:36] <Maroder> and remove option -nolisten tcp
[10:36] <Maroder> after that i restart kdm X ...
[10:36] <Maroder> but X again running with option -nolisten
[10:36] <Maroder> any idea ?
[10:37] <Maroder> user-land ?
[10:37] <user-land> yes, maroder ?
[10:37] <garryF> My guess is maybe its an x keyboard configuration. if you got the gui up try System/preferences/keyboard and set something there. Maybe that will make it go away user-land.
[10:37] <user-land> no, unfortunately i only know little.
[10:37] <Maroder> user-land see up
[10:39] <ubuntu_> nothing like a hot cup of coffee :)
[10:39] <garryF> A huge mug of hot coffee
[10:39] <ubuntu_> garryF, haha
[10:39] <garryF> gallon sized
[10:39] <user-land> thank you, garryf. i will try a reboot after that and the ongoing upgrade.
[10:39] <ubuntu_> bigger the better eh?
[10:39] <garryF> user-land welcome
[10:40] <garryF> Well, I could put myself in the washer in hot cycle and shrink then the cup would be plenty.
[10:41] <echylo> haha
[10:41] <echylo> sounds like a plan
[10:41] <uniscript> isn't that a catch 22 because you woudl be too big for your washer
[10:41] <garryF> Probably why they named the kde music player kaffiene cause he played music to wake up.
[10:41] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:41] <garryF> I'd have to use a sauna tent then.
[10:41] <ubuntu_> i like amarok
[10:42] <echylo> I still prefer the old fashion sleep-in-bed method
[10:42] <echylo> which I'm going to apply right...
[10:42] <echylo> now
[10:42] <garryF> sleep? hmmmm
[10:42] <garryF> !sleep
[10:42] <onami> hello, i installed postfix, started it, and dovecot with it's pop3 module, but when i send mails to local users, they do not appear in dovecot pop, but mailx shoes them. what do i do wrong please ?
[10:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about sleep - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:43] <echylo> ubotu, tsk tsk tsk
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about tsk tsk tsk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:43] <garryF> !computers
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:43] <echylo> hm, not that smart eh
[10:43] <echylo> !women
[10:43] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[10:43] <echylo> ooh
[10:43] <echylo> there you go
[10:43] <garryF> I"m not brave enough to do more than one fish a week. I got kicked once, just on my first try.
[10:44] <ubuntu_> aah geeky women?
[10:44] <echylo> I'd duck now
[10:44] <garryF> !but the fact that garryF needs to sleep.
[10:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about but the fact that garryF needs to sleep. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:44] <garryF> end of my fishing
[10:45] <ubuntu_> garryF, u leaving?
[10:45] <garryF> eventually.
[10:45] <ubuntu_> :(
[10:45] <wthww> brb
[10:45] <garryF> just sticking around to see if that hint worked after the updating is done.
[10:46] <ubuntu_> kool
[10:46] <ubuntu_> garryF,  how long u been using linux?
[10:46] <garryF> off and on since slackware came about.
[10:46] <ubuntu_> ok
[10:47] <echylo> hm, is there a list somewhere of people that tried installing dapper on notebooks?
[10:47] <echylo> well, specific notebook names I mean
[10:47] <garryF> !hardware
[10:47] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:47] <echylo> thanks :)
[10:47] <garryF> there ey go echylo
[10:47] <garryF> welcome
[10:48] <echylo> oh me god
[10:48] <ubuntu_> man ubotu  got a link for everything
[10:48] <echylo> mine's in it!
[10:48] <garryF> !life
[10:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about life - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:48] <garryF> !life, I'm just a geekbot.
[10:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about life, I'm just a geekbot. - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:49] <garryF> I better go away before I get in trouble
[10:49] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:49] <ironfroggy> is it safe to mount something on top of /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[10:49] <bilss_> hi
[10:49] <bilss_> what is the build-dep comand for a source package
[10:49] <ubuntu_> mount?
[10:49] <ironfroggy> in particular, i want all my desktops and laptops to use the same network share for their archives.
[10:50] <ironfroggy> ubuntu_: how is that a question?
[10:50] <col-panic> anyone know if the desktop "bleeding" on xubuntu dapper is fixed yet?
[10:50] <Alpha232> ironfroggy: sure... but make sure you keep the bare essentials there before you mount it
[10:50] <ironfroggy> what bare essentials?
[10:50] <garryF> its never safe to mount on a point that has already been mounted. For example, what chaos would happen if you mounted two cdroms on /media/cdrom and they both had matching file names like readme.txt?
[10:50] <echylo> !nvidia
[10:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:50] <ironfroggy> i mean, isnt it just the debs that were downloaded to be installed?
[10:50] <garryF> build-essential
[10:50] <Alpha232> garryF: it wouldn't...
[10:51] <ubuntu_> ironfroggy,  yep
[10:51] <Alpha232> garryF: but you can use an existing directory with files as a mountpoint.
[10:51] <ironfroggy> garryF: well im not mounting more than one share there
[10:51] <Alpha232> garryF: and the mountpoint will be masked with the mounted file system
[10:51] <ironfroggy> yeah im doing as Alpha232 says
[10:51] <bilss_> garryf: is that an answer to my post?
[10:51] <col-panic> so no one else has noticed windows 'bleeding' onto the desktop in xubuntu yet?
[10:52] <garryF> garryF: <--- Brain just imploded. Data overload.
[10:52] <Alpha232> col-panic: how do you mean bleading, that the windows when moved don't redraw the empty space?
[10:52] <ironfroggy> Alpha232: so that works? because im planning to use the same kind of method to store cached files from remote stores for access when im away from the network.
[10:52] <col-panic> Alpha232, precisely.
[10:52] <col-panic> if I let 'xfce manage the desktop'
[10:52] <col-panic> i usually dont.
[10:53] <BubbaJo> howdy