[02:01] <holstein> jirido: you can use an update manager, or the terminal, or most any package manager you choose.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:02] <holstein> there is also a few PPAs that are unsupporte that easily offer newer nvidia packages
[02:02] <holstein> jirido: whats the problem with the open driver?
[02:02] <jirido> Hi again
[02:02] <jirido> How are you
[02:02] <jirido> ?
[02:04] <holstein> im just fine
[02:04] <jirido> well where did you get the Q from i have droped so many at the last times.. Im in inside my DM now and got nvidas drivers up and running after my try to uninstall them ..
[02:04] <holstein> ok.. enjoy!
[02:05] <holstein> i was just responding to a ping about "how do i update the driver modules"
[02:05] <jirido> My problem now is that the screen resolution on my big screen dont update from xorg.conf..
[02:05] <holstein> jirido: how is that problematic?
[02:06] <holstein> jirido: you should keep in mind, the device you purchased came with windows support.. you were promised by a vendor to be able to have full windows support.. a company supplies that.. you have decided to supply your own linux support for the device now
[02:06] <holstein> the driver support may not be all that great, or may have issue to solve
[02:07] <holstein> jirido: whats wrong with the open driver from the live cd? how does knoppix support the hardware? if knoppix does what you like, then you can grab the xorg.conf from there
[02:08] <jirido> i did pay a movie as sudo mplayer -vo blabla 1024 .. so it sat resolution to 1024 and as root so that was why i could not login.. i did sudo chown -R $USER $USER $HOME and then i could log in again: )
[02:08] <holstein> the xorg.conf *willL affect your system, but you would have to answer a few questions.. where did you get the xorg.conf? have you asked the person or place that provided is for support?
[02:08] <holstein> jirido: you dont need root access to play movies
[02:09] <jirido>  Now it seems like that change to 1024 has got stuck someware becauce even if i change resolution in nvidia settings  it does not affect..
[02:09] <holstein> seems?
[02:09] <holstein> jirido: confirm i its stuck
[02:09] <jirido> No but i played in consolle
[02:10] <holstein> jirido: played what?
[02:10] <holstein> jirido: you dont need root for that.. and shouldnt
[02:10] <jirido> it is stuck at 1024 even if 1360 in xorg.conf
[02:11] <holstein> jirido: in what xorg.conf? where did you get it? have you asked the person or place you got it from for support?
[02:11] <holstein> jirido: are you able to read all im typing? are you able to understand what im typing?
[02:12] <holstein> jirido: you are assuming 'the xorg.conf is not changing the resolution".. it could be "i incorrectly made an xorg.conf" or "the xorg.conf is bad/broken".. etc
[02:13] <jirido> sudo mplayer -vo fbdev -xy 1024 -fs -zoom'  here is the comand i ran / yes its ok it is just now only that it is a wrong resolution /i did render that xorg with nvidia-xorgrender or what it is called
[02:13] <holstein> jirido: if it were "ok", we woudnt be communicating about it
[02:14] <holstein> jirido: the very reason you mention it is to state what is not ok about it
[02:14] <jirido> The xorg conf is ok i think
[02:14] <holstein> jirido: think?
[02:14] <holstein> jirido: you stated an issue with it
[02:14] <holstein> jirido: anyways. you dont/shouldnt run that command as root
[02:14] <jirido> i cant type so fast as to answer at this speed but ill do my best
[02:15] <jirido> That command dont work in console without sudo.. i have tried. But it was sweet to be able to play a movie in console
[02:16] <holstein> jirido: you shouldnt be playing videos as root
[02:16] <jirido> i did not know that it would be bad.. i saw it at a forum post and it seemed sweet
[02:18] <jirido> here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882796/
[02:20] <jirido> you see it has 1360 in the first vga display.. the tru resolution in this hardware is 1366.. but now it uses 1024 even if both arandr and nvidia settings show 1360
[02:20] <holstein> jirido: you shouldnt sweat the difference in 1360 an 1366
[02:20] <holstein> jirido: have you tried the xorg.conf from knoppix?
[02:21] <holstein> jirido: have you tried the open driver from the live CD?
[02:24] <jirido> no and i dont have knopix or cdplayer .. I know there is something wrong someware that i want to fix   here is xrandr.. :http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882815/
[02:25] <jirido> still the screen is 1024 and all program windows are to big when maximized..? strange
[02:25] <holstein> jirido: knoppix, is a distro.. a live linux distro that i suggested, and still suggest you try to see if you can get the card to do whatever resolution you are tring to make it do that its not
[02:27] <jirido> it is among the resolutions in xrandr.. and is marked as beeing used there.  There is a viewport option in nvidias advansed settings but i dont se them in xorg.conf or in nidias settings so i wonder where they can have got stucked if they have..
[02:31] <holstein> jirido: will you please consider trying the knoppix live distrobution? i mention it for this very reason.. several days ago when you said "my machine is not posting a video resolution i expect it should", or basically you asked that i said..
[02:32] <jirido> "my machine is not posting a video resolution i expect  it should", or basically you asked that i said..
[02:32] <holstein> "try knoppix".. because, when i had an nvidia device that i experienced the *same* issue with, as i stated before to you, i tried the knoppix live distro, and i found the resolution
[02:33] <holstein> then, also as i stated before, i grabbed the xorg.conf from there and use it, and it worked *great*
[02:33] <jirido> I cant se the last of your sentenses as they are out of viewport and i run irssi in guake :(
[02:33] <holstein> jirido: i dont recall you stating where you had obtained the one you are using?
[02:34] <jirido> the driver?
[02:34] <jirido>  Its ubuntus nvidia 304
[02:34] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882886/
[02:34] <holstein> jirido: no
[02:34] <holstein> jirido: the xorg.conf
[02:34] <holstein> jirido: as i asked above, where did you get the xorg.conf you are using, and have assumed is the issue?
[02:35] <jirido> i/etc/X11xorg.conf made by nvidia-xconfig
[02:36] <holstein> jirido: so, ideally nvidia would support that.. but, as i stated above, and before, and still suggest, i would, and have tried a knoppix live CD and grabbed the xorg.conf from there
[02:37] <jirido> I did remowe the old one that also were made by nvidia-xconfig but that i had tweeked a little .. But the problem with the 1024 wiewport remaind unchanged.. without xconfig i got 640..
[02:37] <holstein> jirido: also, you may *never* get that resolution.. it could be that the card, driver, or monitor, or combonation there doesnt work with linux well
[02:37] <holstein> jirido: you were not promises linux support by the vendor
[02:39] <jirido> ohh no promises noware i just try t6o find where this 1024 comes from.. this screen har been running at 1366 long times with this card
[02:39] <jirido>  It came when i did play that movie in console as sudo
[02:39] <holstein> jirido: a long time in linux?
[02:39] <jirido>  there is the root of the evil..
[02:40] <holstein> jirido: sure.. you are *not* supposed to do that as root...
[02:40] <jirido> yes i have had this lubuntu for more then a year-- maybe 2
[02:41] <jirido> I know that now :) but the big Q remains where can that command have put a 1024 parameter that has got stuck..
[02:41] <holstein> jirido: this is literally the first i have heard of the root command
[02:41] <jirido> so evern xrandr dont se it?
[02:41] <holstein> jirido: you likely just broke it running commands you shouldnd be
[02:42] <holstein> jirido: i would just fresh install, and test commands in live enviroments, or in VM
[02:42] <jirido> yes i know that.. but now i must just understand where it can have put that parameter
[02:42] <jirido> nooo
[02:43] <jirido> its a resolution problem.. coman its a setting in a file someware that should not be there
[02:44] <jirido> i just dont know where it could be.. that is what i really wonder and i dont think a better xorg.conf is gona help as this parameter/settin someware is obviously overriding xorg.conf
[02:47] <holstein> jirido: you are just asking these quesiton about ever 20 hours or so, and it takes about 8 minutes to reinstall.. and im afraid there are more commands like that that you have ran and dont understand the potential issues
[02:48] <jirido> i have alot installed from suorce and a lot of settings and so on
[02:48] <jirido> it will take longer then 8 min i asure you
[02:49] <holstein> jirido: sure.. and all of that *will* get lost *when* that hard drive fails
[02:49] <holstein> jirido: the other suggestions i have are listed above
[02:49] <jirido> well this is not the subjekt at all..
[02:49] <jirido> well knopix and reinstall..
[02:50] <holstein> jirido: how you broke the system when trying to determine the best course of action to address it *is* the subject
[02:50] <jirido> new xorg.conf..
[02:50] <holstein> jirido: thats the file you are referencing above
[02:50] <jirido> but not harddisk faliour
[02:50] <holstein> jirido: i didnt imply it was
[02:51] <jirido> well i reference it as it is not taken in to acount.. that xorg.conf i mean regarding resolution in the end that remains 1024
[02:52] <jirido> so something is overiding that xconf and that is no reason to reinstall
[02:52] <holstein> jirido: that is the tool to address the resolution. its not the tool to address comands you have copy/pasted in and ran as root
[02:53] <holstein> jirido: you can also try logging in as another user to remove your user config from the equation
[02:53] <jirido> I whell that runn as root is done andn now it is to fix
[02:54] <jirido> well i like my user.. thats where i live!
[02:54] <holstein> jirido: well, the place where you got the command would ideally supply support
[02:54] <jirido> lol
[02:54] <holstein> jirido: im not implying you should change users, friend
[02:54] <holstein> jirido: thats also a suggested troubeshooting step that would be *very* helpful if, as a volunteer of my time, you would try
[02:55] <holstein> jirido: if you have no issues as another user, that is very telling about where the issue is, or could be
[02:55] <holstein> jirido: im not, and didnt, and didnt mean to imply that you should not like your user, or switch users, OK?
[02:56] <holstein> jirido: how are things with your users config removed from the euqation?
[02:56] <jirido> whell what would i win from logging in as an other user?
[02:56] <jirido> where is that ?
[02:57] <jirido> do you mean .config?
[02:57] <holstein> jirido: as i said, and referenced above, you would "win" the knowlege of knowing, basically, if the user config is at fault
[02:57] <holstein> jirido: i mean the *entire* user config
[02:58] <jirido> ok now i se.. I must then make an other user.. right.
[02:58] <holstein> jirido: *everything* in the users /home responsible for settings that can be causing the issues you are having
[02:58] <jirido> yes but could you think of some special places..?
[02:59] <holstein> jirido: no. thats why i suggest the new user so you dont have to blow out the user config for this test
[02:59] <jirido> or could i search true the intire .config folder for a 1024 reference by some command?
[02:59] <holstein> jirido: no
[03:00] <holstein> jirido: if you are not interested in working with my suggestions, thats fine.. just let me know
[03:00] <holstein> jirido: i am volunteering my time here, and you are not following simple suggestions
[03:00] <holstein> jirido: and, thats fine.. just let me know, and i'll leave you alone
[03:00] <holstein> jirido: you can also try #ubuntu since this is not a lubuntu or lxde issue
[03:01] <jirido> some seem ok. i uninstalled the nvidia driversby using jokey and then i could not get back up in for a day.. that was a litle hard
[03:01] <holstein> jirido: sure, and the issue is "seem". you dont *know"
[03:01] <holstein> jirido: anything that "seems", you test, so you know
[03:01] <jirido> no i dont need to be left alone..
[03:02] <holstein> jirido: then, try the new user
[03:02] <jirido> ok but gime a comand to create one ..
[03:02] <jirido> or i have to start studdy for an half oure
[03:05] <holstein> "sudo adduser" is the command.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto or anything you find from searching "ubuntu add user".. or, anything in #ubuntu
[03:07] <holstein> typically, this is something that is tested rather quickly.. its not a "fix". its a troubleshooting step.. you would say "things are the same" or "things are better" as the new user, then we would be able to go from there with that information
[03:13] <jirido_> holstein: same same.. I made a user.. inn gui and loged in but it was the same
[03:14] <jirido_> ill look a litle in xorg log
[03:14] <holstein> ok, so the issue is not in the users /home
[03:14] <jirido_> Yes that was good to know
[03:14] <holstein> jirido_: i would specify the vesa driver in xorg.conf and test
[03:14] <jirido_> ok
[03:15] <jirido_> would i need to restart x
[03:15] <jirido_> ?
[03:15] <jirido_> yes ofcourse
[03:15] <holstein> jirido_: there is not "need".. just you troubleshooting
[03:15] <holstein> if you want to, you can always just reboot
[04:24] <SonikkuAmerica> I have a dumb question...
[04:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Does the Lubuntu AC100 image (the tar.gz) work on any system other than an AC100?
[04:24] <SonikkuAmerica> (i.e. has it been tested on a non-AC100 device?)
[04:25] <Unit193> Uhh, you could try it? (Nooo, idea.)
[04:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Probably worth testing... especially with that "Nexus 7 session"
[04:26] <SonikkuAmerica> And this guinea pig happens to have one
[15:18] <jinglescafe> hi, i updated ubuntu.  my firefox quit working.
[20:05] <anto> Anyone here had problems with getting the right resolution? I can only run 640x480.
[20:12] <holstein> anto: yes i have.. i resolved that for someone yesteready by suggesting they remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf that was there and uneeded
[20:12] <holstein> anto: is this something that has just happened? a fresh install? an update "broke" it? what hardware?
[20:12] <holstein> anto: does it affect the resolution to try and set it with arandr ?
[20:14] <Mongo44> I created a xorg.conf file.
[20:14] <holstein> Mongo44: why?
[20:14] <holstein> Mongo44: is that what broke it?
[20:14] <Mongo44> Started out only 1024x768.
[20:14] <Mongo44> Full is 1366x768.
[20:15] <holstein> Mongo44: full is whatever is allowed by the driver and your hardware
[20:15] <holstein> Mongo44: if you are reading somewhere that your device should have 1366/768 in linux, then ask that entity how
[20:15] <Mongo44> After creating the file it is only 640x480.
[20:15] <holstein> Mongo44: otherwise, you may *only* have 1024x768 with linux
[20:16] <holstein> Mongo44: the "best" place to ask for linux support would be the manufacturer of the hardware.. though, they likely wont support linux officaly.. so the next option is troubleshooting
[20:16] <Mongo44> Works in Debian 7.3.
[20:16] <Mongo44> Lubuntu is a VM. Same with Xubuntu.
[20:17] <holstein> Mongo44: then, make a note of the graphics driver and kernel versions.. and grab the xorg.conf from there if you need it
[20:17] <holstein> Mongo44: lubuntu *is xubuntu.. is ubuntu.. etc
[20:17] <holstein> same repositories.. same drivers, and kernels available and used
[20:18] <Mongo44> I created the file hasn't given me any information.
[20:18] <holstein> Mongo44: you created what file?
[20:18] <Mongo44> xorg.conf for Wheezy.
[20:18] <holstein> Mongo44: you will go to the debian install that is working and supporting your hardware.. you will copy that xorg.conf. you will make sure you have whatever driver/module in place that the xorg is referencing
[20:20] <Mongo44> http://paste.debian.net/80537/
[20:20] <Mongo44> That is it there.
[20:21] <Mongo44> Do I have the information I need?
[20:48] <melodie> hi
[21:01] <draco--__--> hi everyone
[21:02] <draco--__--> I don't where to write this but there is wrong link on lubuntu main website
[21:02] <draco--__--> under this link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.10/release/lubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso there is an 64bit version not 32bit
[21:03] <draco--__--> I've just tryied to install it on old dell laptop and it displays an information that kernel is not for that cpu
[21:04] <draco--__--> fortunately 32bit version that is available via torrent is working just fine
[21:04] <draco--__--> can somebody pass information to people who can fix that link or give me info where I can send that info?
[21:21] <Mongo44> I edited the xorg.conf file and now the VM isn't booting.
[21:32] <jarnos> When I started sylpheed today, all my two mail accounts had disappeared. Why so?
[21:55] <holstein> Mongo44: what VM?
[21:55] <holstein> jarnos: did you do anything in the users /home? are other settings "reset" ?
[21:56] <Unit193> Could just remove the xorg.conf file.
[21:56] <Mongo44> It works now I just can't get larger than 640x480.
[21:56] <holstein> Mongo44: in what? a virtual machine?
[21:57] <Unit193> Mongo44: Did you stop x, then  sudo xorg -configure
[21:57] <Mongo44> Yes.
[21:58] <jarnos> holstein, Not that I know. I don't know about the other settings, but I can still see the folders of the mail accounts in the left column.
[21:58] <Mongo44> Yes a VBox VM.
[21:58] <holstein> Mongo44: do you have guest additions installed? whats the host? windows?
[21:59] <Mongo44> My host is Wheezy.
[21:59] <Mongo44> Guest additions? Like other users? That would be no.
[21:59] <holstein> Mongo44: no
[22:00] <holstein> Mongo44: like *guest* *additions* ..nothing to do with any other users
[22:00] <Unit193> Mongo44: If you open Software Sources, then go to the additional drivers tab, there should be a virtualbox option.
[22:00] <holstein> virtualbox-guest-additions-iso - guest additions iso image for VirtualBox
[22:00] <holstein> or, the method that Unit193 is suggesting ^
[22:02] <holstein> Mongo44: the host, debian, has the screen resolution set as you want.. the guest, lubuntu in this case, need to have a driver in place to communicate with virtualbox
[22:02] <Mongo44> I don
[22:03] <holstein> Mongo44: im aware that you dont.. thats why its not working
[22:03] <Mongo44> I don't know where software sources is.
[22:03] <holstein> Mongo44: you can get to it from synaptic, or "software sources" in the menu, or the sources list file
[22:04] <holstein> Mongo44: but, you want the additional drivers menu, not sources necessarily
[22:04] <Mongo44> Earlier I had a Debian VM and it worked just fine.
[22:05] <Mongo44> I need to vi my sources list?
[22:05] <holstein> Mongo44: no
[22:05] <holstein> Mongo44: you need to add whatever lubuntu needs to be able to communicate with virtualbox
[22:06] <holstein> Mongo44: i use the guest additions.. you can also add the driver as Unit193 suggests
[22:07] <Mongo44> How do I do this?
[22:08] <holstein> Mongo44: http://askubuntu.com/questions/311161/how-to-install-guest-additions-in-lubuntu-13-04
[22:08] <holstein> Mongo44: or, just click "install guest additions" in the menu and run it from the iso that downloads.. or use Unit193 's method
[22:18] <Mongo44> All I have to do is install dkms?
[22:19] <holstein> Mongo44: i never said that
[22:19] <holstein> Mongo44: i said, you need to install the driver for the graphics in the guest OS
[22:20] <holstein> its relatively quick as well, so, if you cant do that in say 8 minutes, let a volunteer here know
[22:20] <Mongo44> What is the command?
[22:21] <holstein> Mongo44: in the menu, you click on "install guest additions", thats downloads the iso.. then, you mount and navigate to the install.sh on that downloaded/mounted iso provided
[22:23] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-virtualbox
[22:23] <holstein> i think its actually named "autorun.sh"
[22:23] <holstein> as the link i gave suggested, you will want dkms
[22:23] <holstein> http://virtualboxes.org/doc/installing-guest-additions-on-ubuntu/
[22:26] <Mongo44> I am downloading to Wheezy wouldn't let me in the VM.
[22:26] <holstein> Mongo44: ok.. im not following that
[22:26] <holstein> Mongo44: i suggest, from the guest, installing what is needed for the guest
[22:26] <holstein> Mongo44: downloading and installing in the host is not going to do anything
[22:27] <Mongo44> Alright now it is working. Don't know what I messed up before.
[22:28] <Mongo44> I already have dkms.\
[22:29] <Mongo44> After it is finished I will reboot and hopefully it works.
[22:30] <holstein> Mongo44: if you install what is needed, it will.. so, if you reboot, and it didnt, then you dont have the driver for vitualbox installed.. there really is little to do with hope here
[22:33] <Mongo44> It says it is unable to mount.
[22:33] <holstein> !mount
[22:33] <holstein> Mongo44: i just do whatever it takes.. this shoud be relatively quick, so, if you are having issues there, try something else
[22:34] <holstein> sudo apt-get virtualbox-guest-additions-iso for example
[22:34] <holstein> or, the jockey gtk method that Unit193 suggested eariler
[22:34] <Unit193> software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4
[22:35] <holstein> Mongo44: ^ that lets the system promt you to install the driver we are trying to get you installing
[22:50] <Osmodivs> Hello. How do I open a window in a Terminal so I can explore it?
[22:50] <Osmodivs> So I can explore my system.
[22:51] <holstein> Osmodivs: your filesystem?
[22:52] <Osmodivs> holestein Yes. For some reason, even though I am the administrator, I cant do lots of stuff, like, Open an USB
[22:53] <holstein> Osmodivs: open what USB? how is it formatted? does the USB work on other hardware?
[22:53] <Osmodivs> So, the only way is to open a window like that, in sudo mode, and then open the files, and.if I am.lucky, print them.
[22:54] <holstein> Osmodivs: luck has very little to do with anything here.. this is permission related
[22:54] <Mongo44> Ok I still can only get 640x480.
[22:54] <holstein> Osmodivs: your user has sudo rights.. permission to run things as the administrator.. you likely just need to chown the ext partitions stick
[22:54] <holstein> Mongo44: then, you dont have the driver you need installed in the guest
[22:54] <Osmodivs> I have another disk with Lubuntu 12.10 and works fine, this disk with Lubuntu 13.10 is messed, broken, but is where I have.the photo edition software.
[22:55] <holstein> Mongo44: or, you have an xorg.conf in place that is breaking it
[22:55] <Unit193> Osmodivs: Did you use the "Check disk for defects" option?
[22:55] <holstein> Osmodivs: doesnt sound broken in anyway
[22:55] <Mongo44> What is the command for deleting a file?
[22:55] <holstein> !rm
[22:58] <Osmodivs> My Lubuntu is broken, I have adm and all other options checked, but CANTA connect to a WiFi, open an USB, acces my orher HDD, etc. But I dont want to fix that right now, I need to print something, and I need to open a window in sudo mode so I can acces that stick and photoedit the files to print them
[22:58] <Osmodivs> Hoe can I open a window via Terminal?
[22:58] <Mongo44> Ok done that tried to get 1366x768 with xrandr. Failed.
[22:59] <ianorlin> Mongo44 are you sure it isn't virtualbox?
[22:59] <Osmodivs> I thought it wss sudo nautilus, hut I have Lubuntu ;)
[23:00] <ianorlin> pcmanfm is the filemanager
[23:00] <Osmodivs> I am in a phone right now, cant acces WiFi. Thx ianorlin.
[23:00] <Mongo44> I don't know what to do.
[23:02] <ianorlin> there is an option to open folder as root from within pcmanfm
[23:02] <holstein> gksudo pcmanfm if you need is an option
[23:02] <holstein> !chown
[23:02] <holstein> though, it sounds like there are other issues.. i would just backup my data, test my hard drives, and reinstall
[23:02] <Mongo44> I have guest additions installed.
[23:03] <holstein> Mongo44: when you have the driver that supports what you need installed, it will work
[23:03] <holstein> Mongo44: lspci -vv should help
[23:06] <Mongo44> Run in the VM?
[23:07] <holstein> Mongo44: you said you were running lubuntu in vm, and having issue implementing the resolution in the guest you want.. there are virtualbox modules for graphics that you should install to address that
[23:08] <holstein> Mongo44: do you have that module installed? you also mentioned an xorg.conf, have you removed or renamed that? you dont need an xorg.conf on the guest in VM
[23:09] <Mongo44> I removed the xorg.conf file.
[23:09] <Mongo44> Yes I installed the guest additions.
[23:12] <Mongo44> I have successfully created 1366x768_60.00 with xrandr now it just won't apply.
[23:12] <holstein> Mongo44: you dont need to do that
[23:13] <holstein> Mongo44: you just install the module, and the desktop will fit the host
[23:13] <Mongo44> I have installed guest additions.
[23:14] <holstein> Mongo44: ok.. then, what is happening when you try to make the guest fill the screen?
[23:14] <Mongo44> I know I did I had to boot with root priveleges.
[23:14] <holstein> Mongo44: what did you do as root? and why?
[23:14] <Mongo44> I can only get 640x480.
[23:15] <holstein> Mongo44: ok
[23:15] <Mongo44> That is how I had to install the module.
[23:15] <holstein> https://forums.virtualbox.org/ could help
[23:18] <holstein> Mongo44: http://askubuntu.com/questions/311161/how-to-install-guest-additions-in-lubuntu-13-04 should have demonstrated the issue you are having? where you cant get the guest to fill the screen, correct?
[23:19] <holstein> Mongo44: undo whatever you have done before installing guest additions that could have broken the correct functionality
[23:21] <Mongo44> I downloaded dkms before.
[23:21] <holstein> Mongo44: sure.. you'l need dkms. .*and* other things
[23:21] <holstein> Mongo44: is the link i gave showing the desktop the same?
[23:26] <Mongo44> So I absolutely don't need a xorg.conf file?
[23:28] <holstein> Mongo44: correct.. you should have already gotten rid of it..
[23:29] <holstein> Mongo44: you can just rename it, and test
[23:29] <Mongo44> Of course.
[23:29] <holstein> Mongo44: ?
[23:29] <Mongo44> I just don't know why it ain't working.
[23:29] <holstein> Mongo44: what have you done? why did you have an xorg.conf? what else did you do?
[23:30] <holstein> Mongo44: when you run "lspci -vv" is the virtualbox module listed?
[23:30] <holstein> Mongo44: did you post your query at the virtuabox forums?
[23:34] <Mongo44> Here it is anyway: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6888232/
[23:48] <Mongo44> holstein, you get anything from that?
[23:49] <holstein> Mongo44: sure
[23:50] <holstein> Mongo44: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system


[02:11] <psusi> the user "Redwolfe" has now posted spam to bug #1268412 twice... can we get a cleanup and banhammer please?
[02:15] <wgrant> FailBit: Same sort of case there. Revision emails require a lot more work to calculate the content and recipients, plus they're still run from a cronjob. MP emails just send out pretty boring text, and have been ported to our new RabbitMQ-based low-latency job infrastructure.
[02:24] <FailBit> wgrant: a cronjob!?
[02:24] <FailBit> for that?
[02:24] <FailBit> I lol'd
[02:25] <wgrant> We didn't have a proper message queue when that was written a good many years ago.
[02:25] <FailBit> what is going on Spads
[02:29] <FailBit> wgrant: will branch notification emails ever be ported as well?
[02:30] <wgrant> FailBit: All part of the rework that we're doing next year.
[02:30] <FailBit> cool
[02:30] <FailBit> I'll update my bot to start reading my email :D
[02:30] <wgrant> We should have webhooks at that point, too.
[02:30] <FailBit> oh, nice
[10:57] <RahulAN> hii all i am using tiva C series TMC123gxl processor with stelleris  library
[10:57] <RahulAN> i am not able to print float values
[10:57] <RahulAN> please help
[11:06] <cjwatson> RahulAN: Wrong Launchpad; this channel is about launchpad.net, not the TI Launchpad kits
[11:09] <RahulAN> cjwatson, Ohkk.. sorry :D
[16:43] <gothic1> Hello
[16:44] <gothic1> I need help with reporting a horrible font for a certain language in Ubuntu, which makes it impossible for me to read the language clearly.
[16:52] <teward> gothic1: you might want to start in #ubuntu.  this channel is for Launchpad specific support, and ubuntu bugs are best filed with ubuntu-bug
[16:52] <gothic1> teward: Yes, but the people there can't help me neither.
[16:54] <teward> gothic1: well this channel still won't help much, either, what you need to do is find the package that provides the specific font and file the bug with `ubuntu-bug <package>`
[16:55] <gothic1> teward: Yes, I already tried that, but I can't find the font nowhere at my system. So I also don't know which package to report.
[16:57] <teward> gothic1: mind a PM?
[16:57] <gothic1> teward: no problem.


[14:57] <highvoltage> akgraner: http://jonathancarter.org/2011/05/11/ubuntu-weekly-news-revival/ - I hope you're happy now.


[08:01] <meena> sheesh
[13:31] <Nothing4You> hi, is it possible to provide run-once scripts in userdata?
[13:33] <rbasak> Nothing4You: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/examples.html#run-commands-on-first-boot
[13:34] <rbasak> That's an example of cloud-init-per
[13:34] <rbasak> But you probably want to use it against runcmd instead (the following example)
[13:35] <Nothing4You> rbasak: i was intending to run stuff in the final stage which this would be part of https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#scripts-per-once
[13:36] <Nothing4You> i guess a workaround could be to create the script in bootcmd/runcmd and write it to a file that will be loaded in the final stage
[13:38] <rbasak> Nothing4You: is that not the equivalent of https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#runcmd anyway?
[13:38] <rbasak> In terms of stage.
[13:39] <Nothing4You> runcmd runs in the config stage
[14:11] <falcojr> Nothing4You: runcmd runs during config stage, but all it does there is write the script to /var/lib/cloud/instances/scripts
[14:12] <falcojr> the script gets executed via the scripts-user module in the final phase
[14:12] <Nothing4You> ah, thanks
[14:13] <Nothing4You> if i specify package_reboot_if_required=true, does that reboot happen as part of the package-update-upgrade-install module before processing the other final stage modules?
[20:25] <smoser> yes
[20:25] <smoser> Nothing4You: ^. it happens when installing packages and then reboots before going further.
[20:25] <smoser> and then picks up again.
[20:26] <smoser> but that only works on debian/ubuntu
[20:26] <Nothing4You> thanks
[20:26] <Nothing4You> debian in my case, so that's fine
[20:32] <smoser> it relies on /var/run/reboot-required or some such being written. so ... i spoke without verifying that.
[20:32] <smoser> but it does work on ubuntu
[20:34] <Nothing4You> it's definitely rebooting my debian 10 machines


[17:52] <irgendwer4711> hi
[17:53] <irgendwer4711> what the problem with Thunderbird 78.8. we are still waiting for it


[06:35] <Bacta> Hai
[14:41] <masteredu> hello
[14:41] <masteredu> Could someone tell me, where i can find posters for ubuntu 10.04?
[14:44] <masteredu> oh men


[11:29] <volvoguy> *poke* anybody awake?
[11:29] <ogra_> *yawn*
[11:29] <volvoguy> :)
[11:29] <ogra_> just waking up
[11:30] <volvoguy> any idea how i can "ungzip" a folder of svgz files into plain svg files?
[11:31] <volvoguy> i'm trying to get an overview of some of the more complete themes and nautilus can't seem to do thumbnails of svgz files. :-\
[11:31] <ogra_> hmm, never had such a format, i guess inkscape can open them right away without unzipping
[11:32] <volvoguy> yeah. inkscape can open them directly.... but there's lots of 'em. perhaps inkscape can "open > save as" recursively on the command line?
[11:33] <volvoguy> i'll go pick their brains on #ubuntu also. :)
[11:33] <ogra_> try it...
[11:33] <ogra_> heh
[11:34] <ogra_> try #ubuntu-devel, someone might have a script from the top of his head
[11:36] <volvoguy> okey dokey. thanks ogra_
[12:19] <volvoguy> back to icons and hopefully sleep soon. thanks for the direction ogra_ :)


[02:33] <widox> cmaloney: thanks!
[14:40] <cmaloney> morning
[14:41] <dzho> \o
[14:43] <_stink_> yes
[15:10] <gamerchick02> morning!
[15:10] <gamerchick02> does anyone in here play anything on the 3DS?
[15:11] <gamerchick02> like... pokemon sun/moon or x/y?


[01:04] <mate|8256> http://www.wdc.com/global/products/specs/?driveID=1261&language=1 wtf not compatible with linux?
[01:04] <mate|8256> hhow is that possible
[04:29] <bergentroll> Hey, guys, how can I set default audio output? I try to set headphones as default, but after restart it's reset.
[06:40] <dinesh942659> qt creator not working in ubuntu mate
[06:41] <alkisg> Is it working in other desktop environments?
[06:41] <dinesh942659> what is proble ?
[06:41] <dinesh942659> In raspberry it is not working ??
[06:42] <dinesh942659> In raspberry3 it is  working ??
[06:43] <dinesh942659> In raspberry3 it is working ??
[06:45] <thanth> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate  Qt creator is working ??
[06:47] <thanth> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:47] <thanth> or not ??
[06:47] <thanth> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:49] <sixwheeledbeast> I doubt there's an arm build of qt creator I could be wrong
[06:49] <sixwheeledbeast> oh bye
[06:50] <dhdf9426598263> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:50] <dhdf9426598263> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:50] <dhdf9426598263> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:51] <dhdf9426598263> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:52] <thanthdinesh> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:53] <thanthdinesh> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[06:53] <thanthdinesh> In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ?? In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ?? In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ?? In raspberry pi3 ubuntu mate Qt creator is working ??
[08:29] <mate|45564> hello
[08:30] <mate|45564> anyone having issues with the latest kernel update?
[08:30] <mate|45564> my mouse seems to misbehaving
[08:31] <ouroumov> mate|45564, no problem here
[08:31] <ouroumov> mate|45564, mouse issues usually stem from the mouse themselves
[08:38] <mate|45564> used to be ok with the previous kernel.. dunno
[08:38] <alkisg> mate|45564: if you didn't remove the old kernel manually, you can still select it from the grub menu, and test
[08:39] <mate|45564> yep.. will do
[09:26] <Guest28085> ...
[09:26] <Guest28085> hi
[09:31] <alkisg> Hi
[11:44] <judas> hey
[14:19] <nitrox_> good morning everyone
[14:22] <nitrox_> Hi all
[14:23] <nitrox_> I have a question regarding adding a swap file to my installation of Ubuntu on the rapsberry pi3
[14:23] <nitrox_> is it a requirement to have one?
[15:39] <Tintomatic> On 16.04, apt says there are new ubuntu-mate-core & ubuntu-mate-desktop, but won't install because of unmet dependencies: mate-applets : Breaks: mate-netspeed (< 1.13.0) but 1.12.0-1 is to be installed
[15:39] <ouroumov_> Crap
[15:39] <Tintomatic> Should I just wait another day or two for all mirrors to sync up?
[15:40] <ouroumov_> Tintomatic, you're using 1.14 via the PPA?
[15:40] <Tintomatic> yes, I am
[15:40] <ouroumov_> flexiondotorg, ^
[15:40] <ouroumov_> flexiondotorg, hadn't though about testing that use case
[15:40] <ouroumov_> (Sorry)
[15:41] <flexiondotorg> Tintomatic, You should sudo apt-get dist-upgrade if you're switch to the xenial-mate PPA.
[15:41] <Tintomatic> no biggie. and no hurry
[15:41] <Tintomatic> I always  dist-upgrade
[15:42] <flexiondotorg> Tintomatic, OK, let me check something...
[15:44] <flexiondotorg> OK I see the issue. I need to bump a version of the meta package in the PPA.
[16:02] <flexiondotorg> Tintomatic, New meta packages uploading to PPA now. Should be ready in an hour or so.
[16:17] <miguel> good morning all
[16:18] <Guest39421> good morning all
[16:18] <ouroumov__> hi miguel / Guest39421
[16:18] <Guest39421> hi there....just starting this ubuntu trip...pretty awesome
[16:19] <Guest39421> ...but like all newbies, I have a ton of questions
[16:20] <ouroumov__> Guest39421, you're welcome to ask, you can also ask on the forums
[16:21] <Guest39421> well, this was my first option since it is live and my first question is not that hard to answer (I hope!)
[16:22] <Guest39421> I'm trying to use the startup disk creator in MATE and some errors are showing up...I want to make a CD, not a USB stick...
[16:23] <sixwheeledbeast> Not sure if Ubuntu fits on a disk any more.
[16:23] <Guest39421> hmmm
[16:24] <Darkhero> standard ubuntu and ubuntu-mate don't fit on a cd anymore. Can't speak for any of the other spins
[16:24] <sixwheeledbeast> Ubuntu certainly hasn't for a few updates, ubuntu-mate maybe different but I doubt it. I have used flash sticks for live images for a few years now.
[16:25] <nomic> there are net loaders .. small download then it loads the rest off the internet
[16:25] <Guest39421> ok, got that straight...but check this out...
[16:25] <ouroumov__> UM fits on a DVD, but Guest39421: Startup Disk Creator is specifically for USB drives
[16:26] <ouroumov__> Guest39421, to burn a DVD, use Brasero (I think it's installed by default)
[16:26] <Guest39421> I insert a blank disk and it pops up a window stating that it is unable to mount the blnk CD because it is alredy mounted...???
[16:27] <Guest39421>  got that ouroumov...
[16:27] <Akuli> cancel yourself out of that :) brasero will handle it
[16:27] <Guest39421> thx alkuli
[16:28] <Guest39421> ...but why the error?
[16:29] <Akuli> i don't know :) i guess something's trying to mount it and then something else also tries to mount it
[16:31] <Guest39421> ok...so what I understand is: A DVD and Brasero will take care of burning the startup disk
[16:32] <Guest39421> Disk creator only deals with USB's
[16:34] <Guest39421> Well, thanks all for the help...I'll be back when something else goes on...plz bear with me...I'll get the hang of it sooner or later...
[16:57] <nitrox_> Good afternoon everyone, am new to Ubuntu coming from Win and MAC and loving the experience. I have recently deployed a Raspberry pi 3 with Ubuntu mate 16 and having issues increasing the resolution. t
[16:58] <nitrox_> of the monitor to 1920*1080
[16:58] <nitrox_> its greyed out on the monitor preferences
[16:59] <nitrox_> am connecting to an Harmon Kardon reciever
[16:59] <nitrox_> via the HDMI port
[17:00] <nitrox_> any help will be kindly appreciated
[17:01] <home> hi friends, im totally new to Mate and from windows background, got Ubuntu MATE UP N RUNNING ON iNTEl aTOM WITH 2 GB RAM, i have 2 wifi and 2 bluetooth adapters, can some one guide me from where can I configure them individually
[17:03] <nitrox_> you should be able to configure the bluetooth under the System > hardware > bluetooth adapters
[17:04] <nitrox_> menu options
[17:05] <home> i cant see the 2 different blue tooth adapters seperately there
[17:06] <nitrox_> in the menu system > hardware - bluetooth devices
[17:07] <nitrox_> there also more configuration options
[17:10] <home> only configuration showing, going to mene-sytem-preferences - hardware - 2 options there - bluetooth adapters and bluetooth manager, bluetooth adapters shows options of system name and visibility while bluetooth manager gives options for bluetooth devices to connect to
[17:11] <home> cant fine the 2 adapters separately to connect to two speaker systems for my home music system
[17:13] <Tintomatic> flexiondotorg: I just got back andtried upgrading again....Perfect!  You rock!! thanks
[17:13] <flexiondotorg> Tintomatic, Thanks for confirming the fix.
[17:14] <flexiondotorg> I guess you've got proposed enabled?
[17:16] <Tintomatic> Umm, maybe?? I don't know. I've got "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate-dev/xenial-mate/ubuntu xenial main"
[17:37] <khw> I'm running Ubuntu Mate  15.10.  If I hit the upgrade button on the Software Updater  to get to 16.04.1, will that install plain Ubuntu or will it include Mate as well?
[17:42] <flexiondotorg> khw, If you upgrade Ubuntu MATE 15.10 you will upgrade to Ubuntu MATE 16.04.1
[17:42] <khw> flexiondotorg, thanks
[18:07] <Svarttjern> Hi could anyone help my with a question, please?
[18:09] <wagnergsantos> I'm running Ubuntu Mate 16.04.1 there are a way to update Mate Desktop to new version?
[18:09] <Svarttjern> What do I have to select in YUMI since Ubuntu Mate isn't listed?
[18:11] <ouroumov_> wagnergsantos, if you mean 1.16: not yet
[18:15] <sixwheeledbeast> Svarttjern: download and select your own ISO
[18:16] <sixwheeledbeast> I believe YUMI is pendrivelinux multiboot?
[18:16] <Svarttjern> yes
[18:22] <Svarttjern> since Ubuntu Mate isn't listed I don't know what to choose.  There are update to 1.14?
[18:48] <Akuli> why do you need it?
[18:48] <Akuli> mine is 1.8.2, runs great
[18:48] <Akuli> 1.8.1 on my laptop
[19:02] <wagnergsantos> Akuli, I like new, and in changelog there are a lot of new improvements
[19:02] <Akuli> then you should build it from source
[19:05] <wagnergsantos> like: Touchpad configuration now supports edge and two-finger scrolling independently.
[19:06] <wagnergsantos> OK, I will try this. Thanks!
[19:08] <Akuli> building from source is a somewhat advanced thing though
[19:12] <Akuli> most importantly: test everything before you run "make install"
[19:27] <ouroumov_> wagnergsantos, there's a post on the forums about installing 1.14 through PPA
[19:28] <ouroumov_> wagnergsantos, http://ubuntu-mate.community/t/mate-desktop-1-14-for-ubuntu-mate-16-04-is-available-now/6722/37
[19:28] <ouroumov_> make that /1 not /37
[21:21] <school> Hi everybody, I just installed Ubuntu mate but syste dosen't turns off by its self
[21:23] <ouroumov_> hi school
[21:23] <ouroumov_> school, you mean the system doesn't reach shut down?
[21:24] <school> yes exactly
[21:24] <ouroumov_> Is the thing still on or is it the machine you're talking here with?
[21:26] <school> I'm using a notebook acer aspire 5100
[21:27] <ouroumov_> Have the problem occurred more than one time?
[21:27] <school> always
[21:28] <school> I have to hold power key to turn off
[21:29] <ouroumov_> Okay, try this next time: MagicSysreq + REISUO ( See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key )
[21:30] <ouroumov_> school, I think the problem is most likely in kernel, you might find more help for that in #ubuntu channel
[21:30] <school> Thanks a lot,I'll do it
[21:32] <mate|99626> i followed these insrtructions for installing wine but cant find it? https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[21:33] <ouroumov_> hi mate|99626
[21:34] <ouroumov_> mate|99626, PlayOn linux is available to you through the software boutique
[21:35] <ouroumov_> mate|99626, there's also the Wine dev build at the end of the "Game" section in the boutique
[21:35] <mate|99626> does wine not workon ubuntu?
[21:36] <nomic> z.
[21:37] <mate|99626> wtf
[21:37] <ouroumov_> Split!
[21:37] <ouroumov_> mate|99626, it happens sometimes
[21:37] <ouroumov_> It's a netsplit
[21:37] <mate|99626> oh okay
[21:37] <ouroumov_> Two servers in this IRC network disconnected
[21:38] <ouroumov_> We're on one of the servers
[21:38] <ouroumov_> Actually we're on one side of the link that broke
[21:38] <ouroumov_> The others will have seen us being disconnected :)
[21:38] <ouroumov_> And here they come back
[21:38] <mate|99626> lol
[21:47] <p3t3r> first hello, is someone here who knows if the bug(panel removes of the Desktop) is solved ? I didnt use compiz is solved
[21:48] <ouroumov_> p3t3r, you have a bug report?
[21:49] <p3t3r> ?? just found some Information in Net thats my first time with Mate and the first Time ever here in Hexchat
[21:52] <p3t3r> and any Info say if you use compiz ... i didnt use compiz    i use this : sry searching for take a moment
[21:54] <p3t3r> Sry my technical english ist worse
[21:55] <p3t3r> In Mate-Finetuning the 2. Panel between Desktop and Window (dont know the english word for it
[21:56] <ouroumov_> p3t3r, we have a german section on our forums, maybe you can ask there? https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/multilingual/german
[21:56] <p3t3r> i use Redmond an in the window panel Marco(Compton-GPU-Komposit)
[21:56] <p3t3r> yep maybe a good idea
[21:57] <p3t3r> i will try sry
[21:57] <p3t3r> exit


[10:21] <CIA-19> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2106 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py):
[10:21] <CIA-19> ubiquity: * KDE frontend: Disable the KDE media notifier for the entire duration of
[10:21] <CIA-19> ubiquity:  installation (LP: #122500).
[04:18] <superm1> if you don't have a web connection, when the language support download occurs, do current cds also provide the files on a cd based repository?
[04:19] <evand> wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having them on the web?  iirc, the language support download was done to keep the size of the CD low
[04:19] <evand> as language packs take up a considerable amount of space
[04:21] <superm1> Ah i see
[04:21] <superm1> It appears that it uses apt_pkg for such functionality though right?
[04:22] <superm1> which i'm assuming uses the standard /etc/apt/sources.list to control which repositories to pull from?
[04:24] <evand> /target/etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <superm1> oh.
[04:26] <evand> I believe.  I'm just looking at that code now, but I imagine that's what it would do.  The relevent code is in install.py under install_language_packs, if you're interested.
[04:26] <superm1> Yea, i adapted it to install other options
[04:26] <superm1> such as VNC server or SSH or Samba or NFS
[04:26] <superm1> for us
[04:27] <superm1> but wanted to cache the packages on a CD repository, so it looks like i'll have to override configure_apt(self) then
[04:32] <cjwatson> we provide some of the languages on the CD, but we don't have room for them all
[04:32] <cjwatson> I think there's something wrong with the bit of ubiquity that's meant to add the CD to sources.list during post-copy configuration, though
[04:32] <cjwatson> since apt-install doesn't seem to be working for packages that are on the CD
[04:32] <cjwatson> might be worth checking that out ...
[04:32] <superm1> good to know
[04:33] <superm1> casper will add the cd repository to the live env (not ubiquity) automatically via a hook though right?
[04:34] <cjwatson> I don't believe so
[04:34] <cjwatson> ubiquity does it using apt-setup
[04:35] <superm1> hm i'll have to look closer at what i saw then in casper.log during boot
[04:35] <cjwatson> interesting, my bad, it does call apt-cdrom
[04:35] <cjwatson> but that's probably not relevant to what goes on in /target ...
[04:36] <superm1> right (unfortunately atm)
[04:37] <evand> speaking of apt-cdrom, it adds restricted to sources.list.  I'm assuming a simple sed line after it runs would be appropriate.
[04:38] <evand> assuming apt-setup/restricted it set true, of course
[04:39] <cjwatson> that's desirable, isn't it?
[04:40] <evand> not for ubuntu-without-restricted, right?
[04:41] <cjwatson> oh, sorry, EINSUFFICIENTCOFFEE
[04:41] <evand> haha, no worries
[04:41] <cjwatson> right, sounds fine, I can't think of a neater approach
[04:41] <cjwatson> since it's just reading from the Release file
[05:05] <superm1> how is release_notes_url set to a different color than blue on stepLanguage ?  Grep'ing through the source, I only see how its URL is actually set.
[05:07] <cjwatson> um, not sure, I assume gtk is doing that?
[05:08] <superm1> well I added my own GtkLinkButton to another page, but its staying solid blue.  So i was a bit perplexed
[05:09] <cjwatson> GtkLinkButton records the visited state
[05:09] <cjwatson> when you click the button, visited is set to true
[05:09] <cjwatson> when you call set_uri, it's set to false
[05:09] <superm1> well when i click it, its turning purple actually
[05:10] <cjwatson> indeed, that's the visited link colour
[05:10] <cjwatson> sounds like it's behaving as designed :)
[05:10] <superm1> i want it to be like yours though and grey :)
[05:16] <cjwatson> no idea, I don't know of anything we do that causes that
[05:17] <superm1> it's weird, when ubiquity starts yours is blue, but then turns grey as the page finishes loading.  after yours is clicked its purple as expected.
[05:17] <superm1> on my page its loads blue stays blue and turns purple when clicked
[05:21] <cjwatson> TBH I'd suggest looking at the GTK source
[05:41] <superm1_> Ok.  I'll see what i can find.  Thanks :)


[01:13] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[01:18] <ScottK> yofel and Quintasan: It should be beer laced Unicorn cookies.
[01:18] <yofel> lol
[02:41] <rbelem> Riddell, I just commited the changes to the kdenetwork svn
[04:00] <eMyller> 'lo.
[04:08] <c2tarun> I am grabbing a package by grab.merge.sh script and its automatically applying the patch. I updated the .quiltrc file but still nothing happned. I tried to pop the patch but No patches found. When I am pushing I am getting Hunk** failed. What should I do?
[06:33] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with this error: dpkg-source: error: File ./freevo_1.9.0.orig.tar.gz has size 34309907 instead of expected 27182867
[08:27] <bambee> morning
[09:32] <test> hey, some guy sent me here
[09:33] <test> He told me that you guys know Qt?
[09:33] <valorie> if anyone is awake.....
[09:34] <valorie> test, what do you want to know?
[09:34] <test> oh im sorry, my time zone is different :p
[09:34]  * valorie isn't a coder, but I can find stuff
[09:34] <valorie> well, the Indians might be around
[09:34] <maco> valorie: or harald
[09:34] <valorie> the Americans will be asleep except me
[09:35] <maco> it's breakfast time in austria
[09:35] <valorie> harald on a Friday night?
[09:35] <valorie> maco......
[09:35] <valorie> lol
[09:35] <maco> you mean *after* a friday night haha....fair point
[09:35] <valorie> plus he's been sick
[09:35] <maco> well then he probably didn't spend the night at the biergarten!
[09:35] <valorie> maybe not!
[09:36] <Tm_T> mooh
[09:36] <valorie> Qmoo
[09:36] <maco> valorie: and yes i know mum, i should get to bed
[09:36] <valorie> lol
[09:36] <valorie> do you have work or school in the morning?
[09:36] <maco> test is looking to get into some Qt stuff and i said mentors and pointers to bugs could be found here
[09:37] <maco> i have "wait for ISP to come install the Intarwebs" around lunchtime
[09:37] <valorie> for me that would be "wake up when installers come at noon"
[09:37] <test> well i made a Qt Creator project
[09:38] <maco> and need some debugging help
[09:38] <maco> which, if none of the europeans give before i wake up, then i will
[09:38] <test> it has 3 QLineEdit widgets in it
[09:38] <test> they have all have an event
[09:39] <test> (when the text is changed)
[09:39] <test> it should convert tempratures
[09:39] <test> if it works
[09:39] <test> It runs fine
[09:40] <test> but when  i change the text it gives me an error
[09:40] <valorie> sounds right up harald's alley from a year or so back
[09:40] <valorie> when he was build a widget man
[09:41] <test> wait ill give u the error message
[09:43] <test> but i gtg
[10:28] <shadeslayer> debfx: i'm a bit busy till 25th ... :)
[10:29] <shadeslayer> and i don't have upload rights as well ....
[10:57] <shadeslayer> debfx: tazz is taking care of the rebuilds ;)
[10:57]  * tazz will try...
[10:57] <tazz> <--- n00b
[10:57] <tazz> hence looking into the job :p
[10:57] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ping
[10:59] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ok, when you come around just please tell me what else is wrong changelog except urgency. I gotta go. THANKS for looking :)
[12:04] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ping
[12:05] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[13:24] <apachelogger> meh
[13:24] <apachelogger> building gcc on arm is more of a PITA than Qt
[13:24] <apachelogger> -.-
[13:24] <apachelogger> stupid tests
[13:24] <apachelogger> it would appear that test is gone again and did not leave an error message behind ^^
[13:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart.php
[13:26] <shadeslayer> which one would be best for Neon?
[13:27] <shadeslayer> ( From KDE Software Logo's )
[13:27] <apachelogger> back of my head
[13:27] <shadeslayer> Quintasan:  yofel ^^
[13:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I do not quite compute the question
[13:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i've contacted a friend of mine to do a logo for neon
[13:27] <apachelogger> well
[13:27] <apachelogger> the oxygen one
[13:28] <apachelogger> obviously :P
[13:28] <shadeslayer> so he was asking for artwork neon can relate to, so im sending him the Kubuntu Logo and KDE Logo's
[13:28] <apachelogger> the lineart ones only make sense for low-quality printing and stuff
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the official one?
[13:28] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:28] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:28] <apachelogger> they are all official?  :P
[13:48] <apachelogger> you are jealous of my relationship with java
[13:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: 19
[13:48] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: Happy Birthday!!!
[13:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah right ....
[13:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: so what can be improved to get it in as the official banner
[13:51] <apachelogger> oh, it's ari-tczew's bday?
[13:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did I mention you look like an android?
[13:51] <shadeslayer> Facebook says so
[13:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no...
[13:51] <apachelogger> oh, you must not trust the facebook on such matters
[13:51] <apachelogger> kubotu: order birthday package for ari-tczew
[13:51]  * kubotu is running to the corner shop to get a birthday present.
[13:51]  * kubotu slides a birthday cake and a present down the bar to ari-tczew and gives everyone a nice frosty mug of beer.
[13:51] <kubotu> Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday ari-tczew, happy birthday to you!!!!  - Wooooho!
[13:55] <kubotu> Happy Birthday Blizzz :D
[13:55] <kubotu> To your health!
[13:55] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: send me request then ;)
[13:55] <shadeslayer> aha!
[13:56]  * apachelogger dances with Blizzz and touches his naughty bits
[13:56] <yofel> shadeslayer: need to go, I'll think about it till I get back
[13:56] <shadeslayer> sure
[13:56] <shadeslayer> i have to study too
[13:56] <shadeslayer> cya
[13:56] <eMyller> hey; anyone seen ofirk and sheytan these days?
[13:56] <shadeslayer> kubotu: google cricket
[13:56] <kubotu> Results for cricket: 1. Bangladesh vs. India, 1st Match, Group B, 19th Feb '11: http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/433558.html?CMP=OTC-GCN | 2. Willow: http://onebox.willow.tv/EventMgmt/UserMgmt/FixtureArchive.asp?target=concluded | 3. Cell Phone Plans | Cell Phones | Mobile Broadband | Cricket Wireless: http://www.mycricket.com/
[13:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[13:56] <Blizzz> djeezus christ
[13:56] <Blizzz> apachelogger:  ty ;)
[13:56] <apachelogger> ari-tczew: no, that is not how this works... you must befriend me
[13:56] <shadeslayer> Blizzz: happy birthday!!
[13:56] <eMyller> i'm worried about the ku website, no one has never talked about it again
[13:56] <apachelogger> it is not thursday
[13:57] <Blizzz> thanks shadeslayer!
[13:57] <apachelogger> I only do befriendshipping thursdays
[13:57] <apachelogger> eMyller: the ku?
[13:57] <shadeslayer> like su but more KDE like?
[13:57] <apachelogger> oh
[13:57] <apachelogger> ku = kool user?
[13:57] <eMyller> it's an all blue su
[13:58] <eMyller> dang, i'm just used to the !ku thing on identica
[13:58] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: I guess I'm not worthy to get friendship with you on FB
[13:58] <apachelogger> I command you to befriend me!
[13:58]  * apachelogger cannot wait till thursday
[13:58] <eMyller> apachelogger: actually, ku means ass in portuguese. they just use c instead of k.
[13:58] <apachelogger> what if I get git by a bus tomorrow
[13:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sudo makemeafriend
[13:58] <apachelogger> then you shall never become my friend on fb
[13:58] <apachelogger> imagine the loss
[13:58] <apachelogger> you could not take part int he moaning and stuff
[13:58] <apachelogger> ...
[13:59] <apachelogger> .....
[13:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: polkit enablement is needed there
[13:59] <ari-tczew> aha
[13:59] <shadeslayer> ... I get git by a bus ... was that by mistake ? :P
[13:59] <apachelogger> no
[13:59] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:59] <apachelogger> kubotu: google git by a bus
[13:59] <kubotu> Results for git by a bus: 1. Git by a Bus: http://dev.hubspot.com/bid/57694/Git-by-a-Bus | 2. Git Bus route: http://www.git.org.in/busroute.htm | 3. Git by a Bus | Daniel Bachhuber's weblog: http://danielbachhuber.com/2011/01/05/git-by-a-bus/
[13:59] <shadeslayer> lul then
[13:59] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: show me this guy who has birthday today
[13:59] <apachelogger> there ye go
[13:59] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: Blizzz
[13:59] <shadeslayer> Blizzz: ari-tczew
[13:59] <apachelogger> eMyller: the website is being held back by stuff
[14:00] <shadeslayer> aye
[14:00] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: I don't get it
[14:00] <apachelogger> imaginary stuff I might add
[14:00] <bambee> now that language-selector is waiting for review, can I help on another thing ?
[14:00] <apachelogger> as currently there is nothing to deploy there is nothing to hold back
[14:00] <Blizzz> shadeslayer: pardon?
[14:00] <apachelogger> if it were to be held back one were to do something about it
[14:00] <apachelogger> but since there is nothing...
[14:00] <Blizzz> ah
[14:00] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:00] <apachelogger> bambee: what do you want to do?
[14:00] <apachelogger> you can join me watching gcc compile on arm
[14:00] <eMyller> apachelogger: there is some non imaginary stuff; sheytan have designed lots of pages
[14:00] <apachelogger> that surely will take another 300000 hours
[14:01] <apachelogger> eMyller: yes, but it is not deployment ready I recon
[14:01] <shadeslayer> kbai
[14:01] <eMyller> i was just about to get with him to write markup and stuff
[14:01] <apachelogger> and until there is something to deploy we cannot annoy the canonical sysadmins to execute the review and deployment
[14:01] <apachelogger> thus nothing is being held back right now
[14:01] <eMyller> k
[14:01] <bambee> apachelogger: I prefer programming tasks but I'm open to any suggestions :)
[14:01] <eMyller> not complaining about development
[14:02] <eMyller> just wanted to check if there were news
[14:02] <apachelogger> bambee: we could watch drunken friends try to sing
[14:02] <eMyller> it's quite a longe time i don't see the website guys
[14:02] <apachelogger> eMyller: sheytan will know the status I presume
[14:02] <eMyller> yeah, this is why i asked about him :P
[14:03] <apachelogger> bambee: you could make shadeslayer less useful to me and write a schedule management app for UDS in QML ;)
[14:03] <bambee> however if required I can help for packaging and bugfixes of course
[14:03] <apachelogger> talking about bugfixes
[14:03] <apachelogger> bambee: one thing that always needs doing is bug triage :)
[14:03] <apachelogger> ari-tczew: we are still not friends
[14:04] <apachelogger> ...
[14:04] <apachelogger> bambee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs
[14:04] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: I'll survive ;-)
[14:04] <apachelogger> ari-tczew: you are very selfish
[14:04] <apachelogger> what about me?
[14:05] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: get a girlfriend :d
[14:05] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ari-tczew questions our relationship!
[14:05] <apachelogger> bambee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Responses
[14:05] <Nightrose> oO
[14:06] <apachelogger> bambee: basically everything that is not caused by Kubuntu gets closed as invalid and the report sent to bugs.kde.org to file the bug their
[14:06] <bambee> apachelogger: thanks
[14:06] <apachelogger> of course you may also jump at a high profile bug and fix that ;)
[14:06] <apachelogger> e.g. in the topic there is a list of alpha3 bugs
[14:06] <apachelogger> Nightrose: honey, when is deadline for gsoc ideas btw?
[14:07] <Nightrose> apachelogger: 28th for kde
[14:07] <apachelogger> ah
[14:07] <apachelogger> plenty of time
[14:07]  * apachelogger could actually being to draft up proposals
[14:08] <apachelogger> Nightrose: how many proposals can one single person file before it gets weird?
[14:08] <Nightrose> heh
[14:08] <Nightrose> i'd say 4 or 5
[14:08] <apachelogger> splendid, just enough :D
[14:09] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: I might propose something or kwin :P
[14:09]  * apachelogger finds that stuff jolly intersting
[14:10] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: also I am confident that we can land kwin-gles in natty as soon as someone fixed our gcc, which is currently most broken and makes all of KDE segfault on arm \o/
[14:10] <apachelogger> also linaro is poking into gles enablement which means much more gles love alltogehter
[14:10] <apachelogger> love all around
[14:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: when you are back, please teach ari-tczew about apachelogger fandom
[14:11] <apachelogger> he does not quite grasp the concept I am afraid
[14:11] <apachelogger> also
[14:11] <apachelogger> I feel I had too much coffee
[14:11] <apachelogger> oh my
[14:12] <ari-tczew> ;O
[14:13] <apachelogger> who has time to review apachelogger.h?
[14:13] <apachelogger> could release it soonish I believe
[14:24] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: haha, you have been broken your rules! :D
[14:24] <ari-tczew> you sent me request :P
[14:24] <bambee> apachelogger: I could also code a plasma-widget-sound-indicator :P
[14:24] <bambee> mouarf :P
[14:24] <apachelogger> what is that?
[14:25] <apachelogger> sound menu made more sense
[14:25] <apachelogger> also upstream agreed it is a generally good idea
[14:25] <apachelogger> also it is pretty easy to do
[14:25] <bambee> I meant sound menu yeah
[14:25] <apachelogger> ok, I am all behind you on that idea
[14:25]  * apachelogger thinks soundmenu makes all sorts of sense, just not the name ;)
[14:26] <bambee> I think... it's a good challenge... I love challenges :)
[14:27] <apachelogger> ari-tczew: I have a song for that somewhere
[14:27] <apachelogger> I believe
[14:27] <apachelogger> can't recall the lyrics really
[14:27] <apachelogger> lemme see
[14:27] <ari-tczew> lol
[14:28] <debfx> bambee: something like this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Veromix+-+A+Pulseaudio+volume+control?content=116676
[14:29] <apachelogger> ari-tczew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB0dI0mCzhs&feature=related
[14:30]  * apachelogger needs to dance a bit
[14:30]  * apachelogger grabs Nightrose since she is workign too much anyway
[14:30] <bambee> debfx: something like that yup
[14:31] <apachelogger> debfx, bambee: simpler and more integrated
[14:31] <bambee> with mpris2 spec and all features required by soundmenu
[14:31]  * apachelogger notes that kmix should by now have a dbus interface,
[14:31] <apachelogger> at least it was concluded to have that last year at the kde mm meeting
[14:31] <apachelogger> no idea if they actually implemented it
[14:32] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: do you like punk music?
[14:32]  * apachelogger likes good music
[14:32] <bambee> apachelogger: ok
[14:33] <bambee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu ;)
[14:34] <apachelogger> hm
[14:34] <apachelogger> oh
[14:34] <apachelogger> uh
[14:34]  * apachelogger just found an interseting bug in amarok
[15:19] <mgraesslin> apachelogger: what do you want to propose for kwin?
[16:29] <Riddell> ooh, owncloud accepted
[16:31] <ScottK> Congratulations.
[16:31] <ScottK> Riddell: Kernel for n900 is in New, BTW.
[16:45] <Riddell> rbelem: congrats on getting samba support into KDE!
[17:34] <Daskreech> markey: What's with the fork?
[17:35] <markey> Daskreech: just speculation. there has been some talk about KDE having "its own distro"
[17:35] <markey> but of course that is a problem, politically
[17:35] <markey> the SUSE folks would not be happy with us choosing Kubuntu, and vice versa
[17:36] <markey> so I don't think that will ever happen
[17:36] <Daskreech> Is there a need for KDE to have it's own distro?
[17:36] <markey> good question
[17:36] <Daskreech> E has it's own  Distro
[17:36] <markey> currently, Kubuntu is a great distro for me
[17:36] <Daskreech> I can't think of anything else that has one
[17:37] <markey> but if Canonical continues making bullshit decisions, and paying 2 guys for making Kubuntu, I worry about its future
[17:37] <Daskreech> I suppose you could say that Foresight is the GNOME distro but that's made a huge impact and is really a game changer in the larger scheme of things
[17:37] <markey> poor Riddell has to do the work of 10 guys
[17:37] <markey> basically
[17:37] <markey> is that fair?
[17:37] <Daskreech> Depends on whose perspective you look at
[17:38] <markey> I imagine what he does is fairly complicated and demanding
[17:38] <Daskreech> it is Riddell is a super champ
[17:38] <markey> yep
[17:38] <markey> does he get payed really well? I don't know. rumor has it, Canonical pays poorly
[17:39] <markey> is it OK to treat Kubuntu like an evil step-child?
[17:39] <markey> is it not easy to see why that is?
[17:41] <markey> is Mr. S. really the great philanthropist, or really a cunning business man, fooling people into thinking something else?
[17:42] <Daskreech> markey: Well he is paying for something that is outside of what he set out to do and actually dilutes it
[17:43] <markey> ok
[17:43] <markey> so far so good
[17:43] <markey> why is he doing that?
[17:43] <Daskreech> So is it fair to have a unplanned for side project be treated like a side project? I'd say probably
[17:43] <markey> he could simply not do it, right?
[17:43] <Daskreech> Riddell asked him to
[17:43] <markey> do you really believe that?
[17:43] <markey> would you believe anything some CEO told you?
[17:44] <Daskreech> That if Riddell had not offered to build Kubuntu that it wouldn't exist now? Yeah pretty much
[17:44] <markey> maybe
[17:44] <markey> or maybe the real reason is: appeasing the KDE community
[17:45] <markey> while spending the absolute minimum required to do it
[17:45] <markey> like a cunning business man would do
[17:45] <Daskreech> It most likely is. But if Riddell had not said he would shoulder the responsibilty Kubuntu wuld be in the same category as GnuSense
[17:45] <markey> sure, that could very well be true
[17:46] <Daskreech> markey: We are saying the same things but that doesnt' change that Kubuntu is a side project and treated lke one
[17:46] <markey> but what Riddell did back then, well. that's one thing.
[17:46] <markey> yes
[17:46] <markey> is that OK?
[17:46] <markey> maybe yes, maybe not
[17:46] <markey> IMHO: nope, not OK at all
[17:46] <Daskreech> depends on where you are looking at it from
[17:46] <markey> right
[17:46] <Daskreech> well then fund a KDE distro then
[17:47] <markey> I can't
[17:47] <Daskreech> or offer to pay a second person to
[17:47] <markey> but KDE could
[17:47] <markey> easily
[17:47] <Daskreech> Or start a foundation for it
[17:47] <Daskreech> Yes but that still a side project for the KDE foundation
[17:47] <markey> so anyway, I guess we both understood each other's positions
[17:47] <ScottK> Personally, I'm glad Kubuntu is a side project.
[17:48] <ScottK> The community gets a huge amount of say in what happens in Kubuntu because we do a large share of the work.
[17:48] <Daskreech> Not nearly in the same way as Canonical but Riddell has put up effort for what he thought was a good idea
[17:48] <markey> personally, I am glad that Kubuntu exists, but I still thing that Canonical is screwing over people
[17:48] <markey> think*
[17:49] <Daskreech> markey: I think a solution for your conflict would be to start something explictly to fund polish in Kubuntu
[17:49] <ScottK> Or just convince people it's a worthwhile use of their time.
[17:49] <markey> again, I could not do that. KDE could do it, but it would get KDE into a mess of political issues
[17:49] <markey> because there are more distros
[17:49] <Daskreech> markey: Why could you not do it
[17:49] <Daskreech> I'm not asking you to fund it
[17:49] <ScottK> markey: It didn't stop KDE from making an OpenSuse netbook "reference implementation"
[17:49] <Daskreech> just to start a movement
[17:49] <markey> no time, no money
[17:50] <markey> I contribute to Amarok, which contributes to Kubuntu
[17:50] <Daskreech> apachelogger started the Kubuntu Ninjas movement and it's been progressin
[17:50] <markey> that's the most I can do
[17:50] <Daskreech> markey: Just beat a drum when you can :)
[17:50] <markey> :)
[17:50] <Daskreech> Ideas grow when watered
[17:50] <markey> apachelogger has been beating a lot of drums
[17:50] <markey> he's a smart guy
[17:50] <markey> are his ideas heard?
[17:50] <Daskreech> and it's working
[17:51] <Daskreech> Yes
[17:51] <Daskreech> This channel is a lot fuller and more active since he started doing that
[17:51] <markey> yeah, he can do that very well
[17:51] <Daskreech> slow progress is still progress
[17:51] <markey> but he has many ideas, some of which are more radical
[17:51] <Daskreech> ya hurd? :)
[17:51] <markey> hehe
[17:51] <markey> well ask him yourself
[17:53] <Daskreech> markey: Would you like to do an article for amarok for the feature digest
[17:53] <markey> I'm sorry, what is that?
[17:54]  * bambee arrived and tries to understand something
[18:01] <c2tarun> hi
[18:05] <Daskreech> markey: http://commit-digest.org/
[18:09] <markey> Daskreech: ah, sorry, but we Amarok folks started to do our own "Commit Digest" thingie. we call it "Last Week in Amarok", modeled afer what Boud did for Krita
[18:10] <markey> Commit Digest is great for the core of KDE, but I don't think that it could ever be able to cover the whole range of apps
[18:10] <markey> there are just too many of them now
[18:11] <Daskreech> markey: that's why it's a digest :)
[18:13] <markey> :)
[18:14] <Daskreech> That does give me an idea though
[19:10] <bambee> someone know where I could find kmix icon (air theme) ?
[19:11] <bambee> i.e the systray white icon
[19:18] <Riddell> bambee: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/
[19:19] <bambee> Riddell: great! thanks
[19:27] <ScottK> rgreening: Now wouldn't be a bad time to be thinking about https://launchpad.net/clamav-kde again.  Klamav was just removed from Debian due to it's KDE3ness.
[19:27] <Daskreech> ScottK: I'm shocked. Debian is discriminating against oldness? /s
[19:28] <ScottK> Daskreech: Debian qt/kde team wants to release wheezy Qt3/KDE3 free.  They don't want Qt3 to be the next Gtk-1.2.
[19:29] <ScottK> I think it's a reasonable goal.
[19:29] <ScottK> I think we should be Qt3/KDE3 free for the next LTS.
[19:29] <Daskreech> Wasn't Gtk 1 famous cause some apps simply refused to go to Gtk2?
[19:29] <ScottK> Yep.
[19:29] <ScottK> And in the end they were removed, but it took almost a decade.
[19:34] <Riddell> ScottK: being Qt 3 free requires either updating LSB or having ubuntu no longer support LSB
[19:35] <Riddell> which could well be the reasonable thing to do
[19:35] <ScottK> Riddell: We've never claimed to support LSB.
[19:35] <ScottK> There are parts of LSB we support, but not the whole thing.
[19:36] <Daskreech> jtechidna posted a list of KDE3 bound things in Kubuntu
[19:37] <ScottK> Riddell: I think it's be great to keep Qt3 around if someone was going to maintain it.
[19:37] <Daskreech> might be nice to have that as a wiki page if it's a goal for Odoriferous Otter
[19:37] <Riddell> Qt 3 upstream is dead so I think it's daft to try and maintain it
[19:39] <debfx> Daskreech: I though it's orly owl :(
[19:39] <Daskreech> debfx: Orly? Whooooooo said that?
[19:47] <debfx> Daskreech: I just can't imagine any other codename for the o series
[19:47] <ScottK> Riddell: Agreed.  That's why I think removal for the next LTS is the sane course.
[20:26] <ScottK> Wow.  rekonq in Natty doesn't totally suck.  Who'd have thought ...
[20:27] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^
[20:28] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: also, pinheiro said he really has too much stuff and won
[20:28] <Quintasan> won't be able to make us artwork
[20:28] <Quintasan> We'll use sheytan's work and maybe we'll get something oxygen'ish later
[20:29] <Quintasan> TBH Oxygen'ish artwork for Neon is like, wtf
[20:45] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: wayland foobar or modularization
[20:45] <apachelogger> all to get rid of X :P
[20:46] <apachelogger> markey: did you have a fan club meeting or something? :D
[20:47]  * apachelogger just read that apparently fglrx does opengles
[20:47] <apachelogger> git pull the kwin-gles \o/
[20:51] <markey> apachelogger: yeah I just came back from the weekly apachelogger-fan-club meeting
[20:52] <apachelogger> very nice
[20:52] <markey> we fondled a Harald Action Figure
[20:52] <markey> did you feel the love?
[20:52] <apachelogger> I thought I felt something indeed
[20:52] <markey> dude I should not say this, but we should skype
[20:52] <markey> I'm dying a slow and painful death in this hotel room
[20:53] <markey> not even sure what day of the week it is
[20:53] <markey> it's sat, no?
[20:53] <apachelogger> saturday, hence you did not go to work today :P
[20:53] <markey> aaaah
[20:53] <markey> yes
[20:53] <markey> that explains it
[20:53] <apachelogger> ah, dpkg is having intercourse with me
[20:53] <apachelogger> my oh my
[20:55] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569328/
[20:55] <apachelogger> that does not compute at all
[21:02] <apachelogger> oh
[21:03] <apachelogger> now I see
[21:03] <apachelogger> version problems
[21:09] <apachelogger> cause I'm TNT
[21:09] <apachelogger> ...
[21:09] <apachelogger> markey: so
[21:09] <apachelogger> skype?
[21:10] <mgraesslin> apachelogger: fglrx does opengles but in an unusable way
[21:10] <apachelogger> groovy
[21:10] <apachelogger> <3 drivers
[21:10] <mgraesslin> apachelogger: and don't pull my scratch repo any more - everything is merged into master and I don't update the scratch repo any more
[21:11] <apachelogger> k
[21:11] <apachelogger> needs more fiddly then
[21:11] <mgraesslin> with fglrx you have to resolve each function pointer and the nice thing about gles is that you would not have to resolve the function pointers
[21:12] <mgraesslin> and knowing from the normal glx driver it would be too slow anyway
[21:12] <apachelogger> hm
[21:12] <apachelogger> well
[21:13] <apachelogger> right now dpkg is not very nice anyway
[21:13] <apachelogger> doesnt let me install the package even though it should be very installable :O
[21:19] <apachelogger> gcc on arm is now building for >24h ...
[21:31] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: how would one switch to gles on master then?
[21:31] <apachelogger> runtime?
[21:31] <mgraesslin> build time
[21:31] <apachelogger> ok
[21:31] <mgraesslin> -DKWIN_BUILD_WITH_OPENGLES=ON
[21:31] <apachelogger> thx
[21:31] <mgraesslin> I hope to find a runtime solution but don't have any idea how, yet
[21:37]  * apachelogger is this ---> <---- close to changing the login sound
[21:41] <apachelogger> maco: let's make a time vortex screensaver
[23:31] <apachelogger> great
[23:31] <apachelogger> ubiquity seems the broken
[23:31] <apachelogger> stuck at 64% of system install -.-


[02:54] <madc|SPYnX> May gising ba dito... supported ba ang Smarto Bro na ZTE sa bagong ubuntu
[06:08] <Terminus> madc|SPYnX: no idea but i've gotten those USB dongles to work in the past so there's a high probability they'll work today.
[06:30] <madc|SPYnX> Terminus, pinoy ka?
[07:06] <Terminus> madc|SPYnX: yes
[12:34] <Ghost-In-Net> Hei!
[12:34] <Ghost-In-Net> Mga kapwa filipino ko jan
[12:34] <Ghost-In-Net> salita-salita din


[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[11:37] <freeman__> hi all
[11:38] <freeman__> iam new here , please help
[11:38] <freeman__> i want to participate on ubuntu apps
[12:56] <freeman__> i am here
[12:56] <freeman__> :)
[13:01] <sil2100> Hey!
[13:01] <sil2100> freeman__: hello there, is there anything particular you would like to participate/help in?
[13:04] <freeman__> no , until now i have nothing ,
[13:05] <freeman__> plz how me something where i can participate
[13:44] <freeman__> sop
[13:44] <freeman__> so
[17:47]  * Na3iL is away: AFK


[00:01] <jcuba89> hello, i need help
[00:01] <jcuba89> pleaseeeeeeeeeeee????????????
[00:03] <jcuba89> anybody?
[00:04] <krytarik> Just asking might be a viable option here.
[00:06] <jcuba89> thanks. I am trying to execute kiwix, andit doesnt do anything. What can i do?
[00:06] <jcuba89> iam using lubuntu 1804
[00:07] <jcuba89> kiwix is an offline wikipedia reader and it was working fine in l 1604
[00:17] <JJ_> I need help. I am trying to execte an app and it doesnt do anything
[00:17] <JJ_> i am using lubuntu 1804
[00:20] <JJ_> helo??
[00:20] <JJ_> hello?
[00:20] <tsimonq2> !patience | JJ_
[00:20] <tsimonq2> !patience | JJ_
[00:20] <tsimonq2> :P
[00:20] <tsimonq2> What steps are you using to try?
[00:21] <JJ_> i download kiwix from the official web
[00:21] <JJ_> then i open the folder
[00:21] <tsimonq2> Maybe ask them.
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Kiwix is not supported software by Lubuntu.
[00:22] <JJ_> I heard
[00:22] <JJ_> that sucks
[00:22] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Sorry.
[00:22] <JJ_> and i dont understand
[00:22] <JJ_> kiwix is free software
[00:25] <JJ_> ????????????
[00:25] <JJ_> so??????????????????
[02:53] <sklei4> Oh, they left. It's pretty straight forward. You need to run the binary. :P
[07:15] <holywater> where can i leave suggestions for software?
[07:15] <holywater> to be included in default lubuntu install
[07:23] <holywater> calcoo sounds like a good replacement for galculator, gdmap would be a good inclusion, xarchiver seems to be a good substitute for file-roller, gpaint is pretty good alternative to mtpaint (easier to use too), feh instead of gpicview, mupdf instead of evince
[07:30] <holywater> camorama instead of guvcview, mpvs instead of gnome-mpv
[07:30] <holywater> mpv*
[09:13] <tsimonq2> holywater: The LXDE edition of Lubuntu is in maintenance modenow that we've switched to LXQt.
[09:13] <tsimonq2> Thanks though.
[12:08] <jk^> hi all
[12:09] <jk^> i'm on lubuntu 16.04.4. How to set password at startup? In "Users and groups" it is setted on "Ask password on startup" but it doesn't ask me anything https://drive.google.com/file/d/12p9LrUwzPLdO9ewTFN5SDB4PhUGINM3v/view?usp=sharing
[21:31] <_Aeden_> Hello
[21:32] <_Aeden_> I installed Lubuntu, but there is this ugly uncustomizable taskbar that I want to turn to flat black and beautiful taskbar
[21:32] <_Aeden_> Is there a way to do that, or do I have to install a dock ?


[03:33] <charlie-tca> micahg, want to give me an endorsement? https://wiki.uibuntu.com/CharlieKravetz/XubuntuProjectLeadNomination
[03:35]  * micahg seems to be having an issue w/the wiki ATM
[03:35] <micahg> charlie-tca: do I still need to send a mail to the CC?
[03:35] <charlie-tca> yup
[03:36] <charlie-tca> what? I got ahead of you?
[03:36] <micahg> ok
[03:38]  * micahg is just running a little behind
[03:41] <charlie-tca> heh, alpha1 is out thursday this week
[03:43] <micahg> yep
[03:45] <charlie-tca> which reminds me, I gotta get a message out to vinnl for the news bulletin
[13:06] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[16:14] <charlie-tca> testing is now started for Alpha1. Xubuntu desktop images are ready.
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu images can not be done using VBox now since 3d is not working in it and Unity/compiz requires it.
[16:15] <mhall119> yeah, that's biting me
[16:17] <charlie-tca> qimo?
[16:17] <mhall119> no, just wanted to play with unity
[16:17] <mhall119> and also to get compiz working on my VM at work
[16:17] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah. I bought an ATI card for it
[16:17] <mhall119> I'll be starting work on Qimo soon
[16:17] <mhall119> I need to learn how to build an ISO from seeds
[16:17] <charlie-tca> still can't use VBox, but at least I get a working desktop with Unity
[16:18] <mhall119> I need to try it on my netbook, see if it's fast enough
[16:18] <mhall119> pre-compiz unity wasn't
[16:18] <charlie-tca> It has improved some with compiz
[16:18] <mhall119> I'm going to make a new bottom panel for Qimo, using Python
[16:19] <charlie-tca> Neat!
[16:19] <mhall119> found an existing Python dock I can use for reference, and I've already got the XDG menu stuff figured out
[16:19] <charlie-tca> Of course, now in Ubuntu w/unity, you can't really get most of the things to work. Basically, you can install it and run what's on the dock
[16:19] <mhall119> that'll remove 50% of my desktop customization
[16:20] <charlie-tca> I don't know if they put the panel back, without it you don't have alt+F2
[16:20] <mhall119> yeah, qimo won't be using Unity or Gnome-Shell
[16:20] <mhall119> it'll be Xfce or what they're calling "2d" Gnome
[16:20] <charlie-tca> heh
[16:20] <charlie-tca> what a deal, huh?
[16:21] <mhall119> yeah
[16:21] <mhall119> Edubuntu is sticking with "2d" gnome too
[16:21] <mhall119> but the future of that is in question
[16:21] <charlie-tca> It is supposed to there for Natty, or did they change that again?
[16:22] <mhall119> no, it'll be there for natty
[16:22] <mhall119> but beyond that, I don't know how long Gnome will support it
[16:24] <mhall119> I assume that installing xubuntu-desktop on a natty-gnome install will give me the same packages/setup as installing from the xubuntu iso would, right?
[16:24] <charlie-tca> It should
[16:25] <charlie-tca> But it will have a lot of extra stuff from the gnome/ubuntu install
[16:25] <mhall119> cool, cause I'm installing that in VBox now
[16:25] <mhall119> that's fine
[16:29] <charlie-tca> hm, Xubuntu alternate images failed to build today. Many hash sum mismatch errors in the build log
[16:31] <charlie-tca> rebuilding now
[16:35] <mhall119> charlie-tca: know of any good tutorial for me to learn how to build ISOs from seeds?
[16:35] <charlie-tca> I don't. Maybe cody-somerville does, though?
[16:36] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville, ^ ^ ^
[16:36] <mhall119> for the past two Qimo releases, I've been manually unpacking Xubuntu ISOs, making my changes, then re-mksquashfs/mkisofs-ing
[16:36] <charlie-tca> That seems like the hard way, too
[16:36] <mhall119> yes, but it required the least understanding
[16:37] <mhall119> and at the time, I had more time/energy than understanding
[16:37] <charlie-tca> :-)
[16:37] <mhall119> I also had a good tutorial on doing it that way
[16:37] <mhall119> but I want to move towards doing things the "right" way
[16:38] <mhall119> Qimo 1 I didn't even have .deb packages
[16:38] <mhall119> so every time I re-built an ISO, I had to remember which programs to add and which to remove, then copy my config files to the right places
[16:41] <mhall119> I like the new Xubuntu wallpaper
[16:42] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit, you here today? Our alternate images are failing to build
[16:43] <charlie-tca> I had them rebuild it, but it failed again.
[16:47] <mhall119> oh hey, I like the new GTK/xfwm theme too
[16:50] <ochosi> mhall119: what theme are you talking about, bluebird, greybird or something else?
[16:50] <mhall119> bluebird
[16:50] <charlie-tca> mhall119, you did not see it already?
[16:50] <mhall119> can I change the colors on that in a .gtkrc file?
[16:50] <mhall119> charlie-tca: no, first time
[16:51] <charlie-tca> I think it is really good
[16:52] <ochosi> mhall119: i'm currently reworking it a bit, less blue. that's why the new version is called "greybird". feel free to test it and feed back: http://shimmerproject.org/hg/bluebird-colors
[16:53] <mhall119> how hard would it be to change the blue/gray to pinks?
[16:54] <ochosi> in the newer theme it should be rather easy-ish
[16:54] <ochosi> depending of course on how pink you'd like it ;)
[16:54] <mhall119> cool, I might use it for Qimo
[16:55] <ochosi> what's Quimo? Quimo for kids?
[16:56] <mhall119> Qimo (no 'u'), yes
[16:56] <ochosi> ah, right, sry :)
[16:57] <ochosi> sure, if you need help with the pink feel free to ping me
[16:57] <mhall119> cool, thanks
[16:57] <ochosi> i'm currently a bit busy with work so i won't promise much
[16:58] <mhall119> that's okay, I can find my way around most of a gtkrc file
[16:58] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit, never mind, according to <cjwatson> will require shell access to antimony.
[16:58] <mhall119> well, I seem to have fu-bar'd my gnome setup already...
[16:58] <ochosi> mhall119: the bluest part of the theme is the menubar i guess, and that's a pixmap...
[16:59] <mhall119> okay, I can make a different image for that
[16:59] <ochosi> or just use gimp to change the hue ;)
[18:46] <mhall119> what day were xubuntu meetings scheduled for, Tuesday or Thursday?
[18:46] <charlie-tca> Thursday
[18:46] <charlie-tca> 19:00 UTC
[18:46] <mhall119> dang, I'm gonna miss another one :(