[12:36] <sala> how can i set a better resolution for my screen? i'm using my tv as monitor
[12:36] <vp> not used to irc..... :(
[12:37] <ubuntu__> hello can you hear me
[12:37] <circuitman> how can i do voice and video chat using pigdin instant messenger
[12:37] <ubuntu__> can you help me
[12:38] <ubuntu__> can you help me
[12:38] <om26er> !help | ubuntu__
[12:38] <om26er> circuitman, which protocol?
[12:39] <ubuntu__> how can i play videos in kubuntu
[12:39] <duffydack> circuitman, xmpp works like a champ
[12:39] <circuitman> am gmail.yahoo,msn
[12:39] <ubuntu__> please tell
[12:39] <ubuntu__> circuit man
[12:40] <vp> after having exported DISPLAY to my local machine from a network machine I'm able to open rhythmbox but it doesn't play any sound telling me that I need audiosink plugin
[12:40] <circuitman> 0m26er:gtalk,yahoo and msn
[12:40] <vp> how can i fix this since no audiosink seems to exist ?
[12:40] <om26er> circuitman, only works for gtalk at the moment
[12:41] <leagris> ubuntu__, vlc aka (Videolan)
[12:41] <ubuntu__> playing videos
[12:41] <circuitman> 0m26er:ok tell me how to configure it for gtalk
[12:41] <zdendo> Hello, anyone knows how I can play wma-pro mediafiles in Linux? I have Kubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Medibuntu repozitory, I have w64codecs but it not works. Only wma. No wma-pro
[12:41] <vp> same thing for vlc , totem, etc.... no sound :(
[12:41] <ubuntu__> oh oh
[12:41] <om26er> zdendo, for 10.04 join #ubuntu+1
[12:41] <om26er> circuitman, start pidgin
[12:42] <circuitman> 0m26er:ok started
[12:42]  * om26er click on accounts
[12:42] <circuitman> 0m26er:ok
[12:42] <om26er> circuitman, now in the new window click on add
[12:42] <ubuntu__> hearing radio
[12:43] <zdendo> om26er Thx, I try. But I thing, it is "egal" which distro I use, that is every for debian ;)
[12:43] <om26er> ubuntu__, do you have any support questions?
[12:43] <ubuntu__> yes
[12:43] <ubuntu__> how are you
[12:43] <circuitman> 0m26er:ok
[12:43] <ubuntu__> wat are you doing there
[12:44] <om26er> ubuntu__, this is not a social channel
[12:44] <vp> no answer for my question ?
[12:44] <ubuntu__> playing radio in ubuntu
[12:44] <circuitman> 0m26er:i added the gmail account
[12:44] <om26er> circuitman, now you are logged in?
[12:44] <ubuntu__> yes circuitman
[12:45] <om26er> ubuntu__, if you dont have any support questions please leave
[12:45] <circuitman> 0m26er:ya
[12:45] <soc2> hi
[12:45] <ubuntu__> iam dhanesh
[12:45] <soc2> does someone have experience installing ubuntu on an imac?
[12:45] <ubuntu__> yes soc
[12:45] <ikonia> soc2 PPC port is pretty dead now
[12:45] <costre> ubuntu__,  Or join #ubunto-offtopic
[12:45] <costre> ubuntu__,  Or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:45] <soc2> ikonia: it's no powerpc
[12:46] <mkanyicy> soc2, ikonia isnt imac an intel
[12:46] <ikonia> soc2: then it's not an imac
[12:46] <Craig_Dem> I'm typing on a mac right now. Core 2 Duo.
[12:46] <soc2> i'm pretty sure that's an imac: http://www.apple.com/imac/features.html
[12:47] <Craig_Dem> All new iMacs for like 2 years have been intel.
[12:47] <mkanyicy> ikonia, soc2 i dont think imac is using ppc but rather intel
[12:47] <Craig_Dem> Might be longer.
[12:47] <llutz> ikonia: imac has intel-cpu
[12:47] <circuitman> 0m26er:i added the gtalk account to my pigdin,now how to configure it for a voice and video chat
[12:47] <Craig_Dem> Mac Pros have the option of AMD processors.
[12:47] <ikonia> for some reason I was thinking of the old lego style mac books
[12:47] <ikonia> the multi-colours
[12:47] <ikonia> Craig_Dem: do they ??? since when ?
[12:47] <mkanyicy> soc2, anyway what problems are you encountering during installation process?
[12:47] <soc2> no i'm just asking before buying one
[12:48] <ikonia> soc2: on the intel macs they work pretty much out of the box
[12:48] <Craig_Dem> AMD graphics cards, my bad.
[12:49] <ubuntu__> playing radio in kubuntu
[12:49] <om26er> circuitman, right click on a contact and click audio call
[12:49] <brontosaurusrex> soc2: there was talk about that on #mac, someone said that it is not recommended, something about cpu burnouts, dunno, maybe ask there?
[12:49] <mkanyicy> Craig_Dem, lol
[12:49] <soc2> ah ok
[12:49] <soc2> other option would be a sony vaio l series: http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644671994&N=4294954311
[12:50] <soc2> but it has lower specs overall
[12:50] <circuitman> 0m26er:sorry the audio call option is not there
[12:50] <mkanyicy> soc2, take an imac
[12:50] <ubuntu__> ubuntu has warranty
[12:50] <ubuntu__> sexy
[12:50] <mkanyicy> ubuntu__, warranty?
[12:50] <Craig_Dem> You can run ubuntu on a mac no problem.
[12:50] <nperry> !of | ubuntu__
[12:50] <om26er> circuitman, on all contacts? and use smaller case for om26er so that I get notified
[12:50] <nperry> !or | ubuntu__
[12:50] <nperry> !ot | ubuntu__
[12:51] <soc2> and a nvidia gpu, and i won't buy that
[12:51] <om26er> circuitman, click on help>about and see which version of pidgin are you using
[12:52] <circuitman> 0m26er:2.5.5
[12:52] <ubuntu__> iam using 1.0.1
[12:53] <circuitman> 0m26er: I'm using pidgin 2.5.5
[12:53] <meco> I need help restoring my screen settings. A person has been changing something so that everything is enlarged at least four or five times. When I now move the mouse both the mouse pointer AND the screen moves, in opposite directions.
[12:53] <ubuntu__> its easy
[12:53] <beernarrd> hi there
[12:53] <Idlehead> anyone got any idea how to completely get rid of globalmenu? i uninstalled every package from globalmenu, disabled globalmenu in gconf and yet everytime i try to run gtk apps from terminal i get this error: "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "globalmenu-gnome": libglobalmenu-gnome.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:54] <ubuntu__> playing videos in ubuntu which player
[12:55] <soc2> meco: maybe it is just zoomed in?
[12:55] <costre> ubuntu__, mplayer with a proper gui, I love smplayer
[12:55] <ubuntu__> arvind  get rid
[12:56] <Templer> hi there i want to record a .asx video stream of a friend finishing a marathon is there a program i cant find anything???????????
[12:56] <paul3333> hi, I uninstalled wine and deleted .wine directory,,,now when I try to reinstall it, it doesn't generate the program files and windows dirs, any clue?
[12:56] <ikonia> Templer: what encoding is asx ?
[12:57] <om26er_> circuitman, that version dont support calls
[12:57] <Idlehead> anybody? can't get rid of globalmenu :/
[12:57] <Templer> no idea
[12:57] <JEEBcz> paul3333, it should create those at the first run :P .wine (dot-wine) folder in your own home folder
[12:57] <brontosaurusrex> Templer: possibly mplayer from cli with a proper command line to dump the stream to hd, but see if you can play it first
[12:57] <circuitman> 0m26er: how to update it then?
[12:57] <Templer> http://wwitv.com/tv_streams/b2780.asx
[12:57] <meco> soc2: It is not the zoom on the display
[12:58] <om26er> circuitman, which version of ubntu are you using?
[12:58] <costre> paul3333, You did a complete removal?
[12:58] <ikonia> Templer: so why do you want it if you have no idea about it ?
[12:58] <paul3333> cosire: yup
[12:58] <Templer> i want to record it
[12:58] <ced_> SOUND NOT WORK WHAT DO. i mean.. my sound's failing, no audio driver installed, how do i install it? It's just a standard realtek hd audio thing
[12:59] <mkanyicy> Templer, do you mean to convert it to another format?
[12:59] <ikonia> Templer: why do you want that format though if you don't know anything about it ?
[12:59] <circuitman> 0m26er: 9.04
[12:59] <ikonia> Templer: why not another format, mpeg container for example ?
[12:59] <Templer> its streams that way
[12:59] <Templer> i just wanna record it somehow
[12:59] <mkanyicy> ikonia, I think Templer is trying to transcode it to another format
[13:00] <mkanyicy> Templer, what do you mean about 'record'
[13:00] <om26er> circuitman, follow the instructions here http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[13:00] <ced_> Can anyone guide me through the installation of my realtek sound card?
[13:00] <circuitman> 0m26er: ok
[13:00] <ced_> Fresh ubuntu 9.10 install
[13:00] <Templer> make a copy to save
[13:01] <Templer> any format i can replay will do
[13:01] <om26er> ced_, it should be installed automcatically I think
[13:01] <mkanyicy> Templer, I get you now
[13:01] <ced_> Well it isn't o.o
[13:01] <mkanyicy> Templer, what are you using to play the stream?
[13:02] <Templer> was using windows m player but on ubuntu now
[13:02] <ced_> Then again, so should my videocard, which wasn't, but works now, but, yea sound card, how do i shot web'n'stuff?
[13:02] <Templer> so cannot seem to open it
[13:02] <mkanyicy> Templer, try this on terminal "wget http://wwitv.com/tv_streams/b2780.asx"
[13:04] <Templer> its says its saving but file seems to have have stopped
[13:04] <Templer> just says saved now
[13:04] <Templer> doesnt seem to keep saving it
[13:05] <om26er> !who | Templer
[13:05] <stoiss> Hi. Is there a way to have Kpackagekit or synaptic automaticly accept and install any dependencies needed ?
[13:06] <Anarhist> hi, what tool is there to help me convert an ac3 audio file into a vorbis? oggenc doesn't take ac3
[13:06] <ced_> anarhist, try ffmpeg
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> mencoder, ffmpeg,
[13:06] <Anarhist> ffmpeg doesn't do vbr, i've been trying to get around using it
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Its possible that the ffmpeg you have - dosent have the support for it compiled in. same could go for mencoder also
[13:08] <brontosaurusrex> Anarhist: pipe from mplayer to oggenc then
[13:08] <mkanyicy> Anarhist, then use ffmpeg to decode ac3 to wav and then oggenc to encode the wav to ogg
[13:09] <Anarhist> yeah, that's an option i suppose
[13:09] <om26er> circuitman, did it work?
[13:10] <mkanyicy> Anarhist, 'ffmpeg -y -i song.ac3 -f wav - | oggenc -o song.ogg -'
[13:11] <brontosaurusrex> or : ffmpeg -i foo.ac3 -vn -f wav - | oggenc -o bar.ogg -
[13:11] <Thor^^> hi, I'm having a bit of an issue, I need to manually edit my grub.cfg, but whenever I try to save it say it's ro(read only), I tried manually mounting /boot but it won't let me override the ro flag... any ideas?
[13:11] <circuitman> 0m26er: un@arun-desktop:~$ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com \     67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8
[13:11] <circuitman> [sudo] password for arun:
[13:11] <circuitman> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com   67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8
[13:11] <circuitman> gpg: requesting key A1F196A8 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[13:11] <circuitman> gpg: key A1F196A8: public key "Launchpad PPA for Pidgin Developers" imported
[13:11] <circuitman> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[13:11] <circuitman> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[13:11] <circuitman> gpg:               imported: 1  (RSA: 1)
[13:12] <circuitman> arun@arun-desktop:~$ echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu \
[13:12] <circuitman> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu
[13:12] <circuitman> arun@arun-desktop:~$ `lsb_release --short --codename` main | \
[13:12] <brontosaurusrex> and floodbot is on vacation?
[13:12] <llutz> should be replaced by kickbot
[13:12] <Pici> brontosaurusrex: checking
[13:12] <paul3333> hi, I have a problem, after deleting wine, it won't install correctly again, the terminal doesn't give out any errors. but the .wine folder (or any other folders) are not created :(
[13:13] <costre> paul3333, Have you installed any wine programs?
[13:13] <mkanyicy> brontosaurusrex, I guess
[13:13] <llutz> Thor^^: "sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[13:13] <costre> until then the dirs may remain empty
[13:13] <ced_> Gais how do i install my sound card, it's just a realtek shitty thing and wasn't installed for some reason at the installation, any ideas?
[13:13] <om26er> circuitman, you should come in private chat
[13:13] <paul3333> costre: have installed dreamweaver and photoshop and winetricks
[13:13] <Sinister> i want to remove amarok how do i remove it and all the settings?
[13:13] <circuitman> om26er:ok
[13:13] <llutz> Sinister: aptitude purge '~namarok'
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Sinister:  if you mean user settings. You need to delete them from the users home dir.
[13:13] <costre> paul3333, different owner of the installation?
[13:14] <paul3333> costre: no, my super user
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> paul3333:  You have been installing apps with wine as root?
[13:14] <Sinister> amarok keeps them in 20 differnt spots
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> Sinister:  so?
[13:15] <mkanyicy> Sinister, at least you know it's 20
[13:15] <mkanyicy> Sinister, but for real? 20?
[13:16] <radioman-lt> ;}
[13:16] <paul3333> Dr_Willis: not sure about your question, i have a "root" user and "paul" user by default in linux, i've been using paul to install
[13:16] <lajosward> whats 20?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> paul3333:  just making sure you havent been doing 'sudo wine windowinstaller.exe'
[13:16] <mkanyicy> lajosward, follow the conversation up by Sinister
[13:17] <paul3333> Dr_Willis: nop...only used sudo to install wine...have any ideea why it's not installing correctly anymore?
[13:17] <lajosward> what do i need to get to run my ati  graphics
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> paul3333:  ive deleted my wine dir  on many occasions and its allready been recreated.  you may want to run winecfg perhaps.
[13:17] <lajosward> sorry mk i have a sinister name also had moment i thought you was speakign to me
[13:18] <MikeyPooh> Good Morning
[13:18] <MikeyPooh> !lvm
[13:19] <ced_> !howdoifixmysoundcard
[13:19] <Sinister> no for real its like 90 places if you figure icons and shared stuff
[13:19] <hceylan> Hi I am trying to convert from Fedora to ubuntu and having a problem with mysql
[13:19] <paul3333> Dr_Willis: also, I have a problem (as you indeed must when running linux)..when I create another user, after i log in using normal login, it logs me out, only working with safe login but I haven't installed anything on that user's account
[13:19] <researcher1> which is the tool to provide audio/video chat service on LAN. I work in  computer lab. with 30 students on client and one Server for  monitor using  audio/video chat. Your guidance please?
[13:19] <hceylan> Mysql was working fine on my development laptop then I messed up with the /var/lib/mysql firectory
[13:20] <hceylan> I nuked the directory and reinstalled mysql-server-5.1
[13:20] <artur__> hello world
[13:21] <hceylan> then I run mysql-install script
[13:21] <babaroga> Is there any Team Viewer equivalent for Ubuntu
[13:21] <hceylan> Now mysqld_safe can run from the command prompt
[13:21] <hceylan> but fails to start as service
[13:21] <ced_> you can run teamviewer in wine if i'm correct
[13:21] <erUSUL> babaroga: what does Team Viewer do ?
[13:21] <babaroga> ced_ i know but I need Ubuntu to Ubuntu one
[13:22] <ced_> oh. well maybe use vnc then?
[13:22] <ced_> i dunno then ;P
[13:22] <babaroga> ced_ VNC requires a static IP
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> paul3333:  if you have problems adding a second user.. then theres deeper issues going on.  Im not sure where to even start
[13:22] <Azelphur>  babaroga no it doesn't, DYDNS
[13:22] <ced_> yea
[13:22] <hceylan> Where should I expect to see some log if a service fails to start?
[13:22] <babaroga> erUSUL its remote desktop but with registred accounts not static IP
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> vnc over the internet should be ssh tunnled.. (just to be safe)
[13:22] <ced_> as long as you can create a socket you should be fine
[13:23] <erUSUL> !vnc
[13:23] <Pici> hceylan: Probably in /var/log/ , most 'services' have their own logfile.
[13:23] <Azelphur> babaroga: VNC doesn't require a static IP
[13:23] <Azelphur> babaroga: just setup DYDNS and your good to go
[13:23] <researcher1> babaroga: im using team viewer in wine 1.1.41 n it works well
[13:23] <paul3333> when I create another user, after i log in using normal login, it logs me out, only working with safe login but I haven't installed anything on that user's account..any clues?
[13:24] <babaroga> Azelphur: how to do that ? can you help me
[13:24] <ced_> Has anyone ideas on how to install my realtek sound card?
[13:24] <researcher1> erUSUL : Team-viewer provides support to remote PC
[13:24] <hceylan> All I can see in standard log files is "mysql pre-start process (6003) terminated with status 1"
[13:24] <uhal_9001> take a chance
[13:24] <Azelphur> babaroga: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[13:24] <paul3333> ced_ don't default ubuntu drivers work?
[13:24] <ced_> it didn't detect it somehow
[13:25] <stoiss> Lol.. when a dependency is broken in ubuntu.. the kpackagekit actually recommends synaptic instead since it cant handle a broken dependency.. isnt that sorta epic fail on its part ?
[13:25] <brontosaurusrex> Azelphur: which provider do you use?
[13:25] <hceylan> is there someting like dpkg --configure mysql-server
[13:25] <Azelphur> brontosaurusrex: I don't use DYDNS I have a static IP
[13:26] <llutz> hceylan: dpkg-reconfigure
[13:26] <Azelphur> brontosaurusrex: but I see alot of people using no-ip
[13:26] <paul3333> ced_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 don't worry if you get to the last step where you have to recompile the driver yourself, got there myself and it worked, just follow the instructions
[13:26] <brontosaurusrex> Azelphur: ok, just courious, iam still with afraid.org
[13:27] <Azelphur> :)
[13:27] <hceylan> llutz: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 worked
[13:27] <hceylan> llutz: it prompted for the root password
[13:27] <hceylan> llutz: password was set
[13:27] <paul3333> can anyone help me out?
[13:27] <hceylan> llutz: I saw some logs mysqld ran
[13:27] <ced_> paul3333,
[13:27] <brontosaurusrex> Azelphur: they seem to be nice ppl, have my own domain hosted there and i even somehow managed to make email with my domain work (with google mail)
[13:27] <ced_> root@leigh:/home/ced# lspci -v | grep sound
[13:27] <ced_> root@leigh:/home/ced#
[13:28] <ced_> am i f*cked now? o.o
[13:28] <hceylan> llutz: then again as service it fails to start
[13:28] <FloodBot1> ced_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <Azelphur> brontosaurusrex: I have a payed domain with namecheap which is nice :)
[13:28] <Azelphur> brontosaurusrex: google apps, XMPP, various records, all the trimmings, been good
[13:28] <brontosaurusrex> namecheap?
[13:28] <Azelphur> yup, they are a company
[13:29] <brontosaurusrex> registrants?
[13:29] <Azelphur> yup.
[13:30] <brontosaurusrex> well i made a sort of a funny domain name, so i had to register .mu (which is mauritius i belive), it was quite a task really to make it work
[13:31] <brontosaurusrex> have to run ~
[13:31] <hceylan> Can any1 be kind enough to tar up and send me their /var/lib/mysql and /etc/mysql bare directory
[13:33] <mkanyicy> hceylan, I have a similar problem with my mysql not starting up as a service
[13:33] <mkanyicy> hceylan, what is the error message that you are getting?
[13:33] <paul3333> help anyone?
[13:34] <mkanyicy> paul3333, what is your problem?
[13:34] <paul3333> when I create another user, after i log in using normal login, it logs me out, only working with safe login but I haven't installed anything on that user's account..
[13:34] <paul3333> mkanyicy
[13:35] <Slart> paul3333: nothing in the logs? /var/log/syslog?
[13:35] <paul3333> Slart let me see
[13:36] <jackwu> hi
[13:36] <jack_> what do apps you use for websites like twitter and facebook?
[13:37] <mkanyicy> paul3333, how are you creating a new user?
[13:37] <Pici> jack_: gwibber will connect to both of those.
[13:37] <lydia> Hello a programm runnning through wine has some sound problems. Can I run wine in a mode that all sound events from wine a preferred above others?
[13:37] <costre> jack_ What app you use for websites? Firefox?
[13:37] <soumya> use tweetdeck
[13:37] <soumya> it has a nice interface for both facebook and twitter
[13:37] <jackwu> firefox
[13:38] <Slart> lydia: wine uses pulseaudio by default? or alsa?
[13:39] <Genscher> is there way to get one monitor per desktop with an ati + flgrx? "big desktop" is working fine but i would love to have one monitor per desktop assigned
[13:39] <lydia> Slart, I configured it to use ALSA, I can't choose Pulse. Only EsounD also works. Afaik my system runs pulseaudio.
[13:39] <vvv3> hi, how can I find out what package to install in order to provide the file glxint.h ?
[13:40] <Slart> vvv3: apt-file will do that.. or ask the bot
[13:40] <llutz> !find glxint.h
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> Genscher:  Clarify what you mean to the channel.
[13:40] <fran> OLa
[13:40] <Pici> vvv3: x11proto-gl-dev, use apt-file or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:40] <llutz> ^^ vvv3
[13:41] <Genscher> Dr_Willis, i have 2 monitors. I would like to display one workspace on each of them
[13:41] <LoveJoyDK> Hi all. Anyone here who has a PDC and fileserver running that I could ask a few quistions?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Genscher:  Work spaces dont work that way. so not really.
[13:42] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK: done it a good few times
[13:42] <moetunes> I just installed 9.10 alongside a dapper server based install - vlc in 9.10 uses 40% cpu to play an avi and vlc on dapper uses 0-1% to play the same file?
[13:42] <LoveJoyDK> Genscher<- I have two monitors too. But mouse disaper sometimes when I move from one screen to another. Do yours do the same?
[13:42] <david_brent> moetunes: drivers?
[13:43] <Guest84581> Anyone had any problems with wifi and bluetooth on netbooks?
[13:43] <ced_> If i shut down or reboot ubuntu it flashes something in the console like "You have some hardware problems likely on the PCI bus". . .. how much longer does my pc have to live :P
[13:43] <blue112> Hello there.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> LoveJoyDK:  with my nvidia systems using twinview - ive rarely had issues
[13:43] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia<- would you mind a few noob quistions then?
[13:43] <moetunes> david_brent: both Xorg logs read about the same
[13:43] <blue112> Do you know where I can correct the translation of a linux command ? I can't find the command on launchpad...
[13:43] <soumya> @ced_ it is showing me since last year. that dowsn't indicate the life of your pc
[13:43] <ccnz> I think I'm too baked
[13:44] <mkanyicy> moetunes, maybe vlc versions?
[13:44] <Genscher> LoveJoyDK, works fine but itt's in "big desktop " mode in the moment, not what i would like
[13:44] <david_brent> moetuns: maybe video output selection?
[13:44] <LoveJoyDK> hejsa TLE
[13:45] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK no such thing, so please ask
[13:45] <moetunes> mkanyicy: yep the versions are diff - but would the really have made vlc 40% heavier on resources?
[13:45] <TLE> LoveJoyDK: hallo
[13:45] <mkanyicy> moetunes, thats possible
[13:46] <moetunes> mkanyicy: I'll ask in #videolan
[13:46] <mkanyicy> moetunes, for example windows media player 9 is lighter than 11
[13:46] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia <- first can I have you look at this. Will save me alot of explaining before I get to the quistions? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446195
[13:46] <blue112> Any help ?
[13:46] <mkanyicy> moetunes, i think that is better, if they say the newer version is lighter then its an ubuntu problem then
[13:47] <researcher11> how to install a chat server?
[13:47] <jack_> Pici: does it also support myspace?
[13:48] <rocket16> To you all, which is the best Mindmap? VYM, FreeMind or KDisSert?
[13:48] <Pici> jack_: I'm not sure.
[13:48] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK: ok , so %L is %loginserver% in a microsoft world and %U is $username
[13:48] <LoveJoyDK> Ikonia<- but one quistion is, how do I add a ubuntu desktop computer to the ubuntu PDC? win XP is easy using it's buildin manager. But have had no luck finding a way in ubuntu to add a machine to the domain. Maybe it is not needed in linux, i do not know
[13:48] <moetunes> mkanyicy: it could very well be the options chosen when vlc was compiled
[13:48] <jack_> tweetdeck is a bit too much i think
[13:48] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK: ok, what backend are you using for your domain controller ?
[13:49] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia< yes I found out alot using man smb.conf :D
[13:49] <blue112> You really don't know where I can help with the translation of a packet ?
[13:49] <lacostej> Hei all, can someone test the following small python program (depends on python-wxgtk2.8 ) to verify if only my platform is affected ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43140332/crashapp.py . Thanks for your help
[13:49] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia, what is backend? :S
[13:49] <mkanyicy> moetunes, i think those options should be optimal and the analysis of that is lower level
[13:49] <researcher11> is it possible to have a GUI on Linux Server?
[13:49] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK: ok what backend are you using for your domain controllers data, eg: tdbs, ldap, etc
[13:49] <ikonia> researcher11: sure is, install the package ubuntu-desktop and it's all there
[13:50] <petermaple> HI everyone , I want to ask a question,I want to install the 10.04 beta 1 though wubi, but I can't find a suitable version. every version download metalink from a wrong place ,so the ISO I download from release.ubuntu.com/release/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-beta1-desktop-amd64.iso can't be distinguished. how can I do now ?
[13:50] <Pici> petermaple : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[13:50] <mkanyicy> lacostej, go to a python channel
[13:50] <LoveJoyDK> I installed samba, and edited smb.conf. So I think it uses ldap by default.
[13:50] <moetunes> mkanyicy: it just means I'll have to do the build right...
[13:50] <researcher11> ikonia:Thanks. but I have a CD  image of ubuntu-desktop? How can it be used to have a GUI for server?
[13:50] <kwtm> lacostej: Do you just want me to run the program and see if it crashes?
[13:50]  * blue112 is invisible
[13:51] <lacostej> kwtm: yes. Press the button a few times.
[13:51] <mkanyicy> moetunes, I think that care was taken by experts during compilation of vlc package for ubuntu
[13:51] <ikonia> researcher11: no, you don't need a cd image - just install the package "ubuntu-desktop" from your ubuntu server install
[13:51] <lacostej> kwtm: for me it crashes 80% of the time, when trying to update the status bar
[13:51] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia< I have a test server running now. and have manage to get a winxp mashine running fine with shares and smbuser user
[13:51] <sine_> i want to make a shell script in which it will log onto a ssh session and when the server requests a password it will provide it, is this possible
[13:51] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK: that's not what I asked
[13:51] <moetunes> mkanyicy: they didn't set it with swscalar
[13:51] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK: I asked what backend you are using in your samba/pdc configuration
[13:51] <mkanyicy> moetunes, anyway you can tweak and tinker a bit
[13:51] <lacostej> mkanyicy: I will go there as well. But nice to see if the problem is ubuntu related or not.
[13:52] <lacostej> kwtm: and let me know what ubuntu version you are running., I am still on 09.10
[13:52] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia< is there a command I can run on my server to get it to ytell what you ask for?
[13:52] <ikonia> LoveJoyDK: no, but if you've setup a PDC on ubuntu - you've set up a backend, re-read the guides you used and find out what it suggested
[13:52] <mkanyicy> lacostej, you are using python and you did not specify a problem you are having, we dont know how secure it is to run you mysterious code
[13:53] <moetunes> where's the terminal beep in 9.10? - I get no beep in xchat either
[13:53] <nich_> ll,l,l
[13:53] <aMuleAduGuest41> prova
[13:53] <lacostej> mkanyicy: come on, you can read the code, no ?the file is attached to launchpad, meaning that there's an issue. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/470598 Here it goes
[13:53] <sine_> moetunes: me niether
[13:53] <lacostej> no not that one
[13:53] <lacostej> mkanyicy: that one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wxwidgets2.8/+bug/555592
[13:54] <mkanyicy> lacostej, ok
[13:54] <mkanyicy> lacostej, sorry, im more paranoid
[13:54] <blue112> Ok...
[13:55] <blue112> So, on which channel can I go to have help about fixing a translation of a ubuntu packet ?
[13:55] <lacostej> mkanyicy: no pb.
[13:56] <blue112> ...
[13:56] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia< my guide does only mention apt-get install samba samba-common samba-doc libcupsys2-gnutls10 libkrb53 winbind smbclient wich I had to modify slitely because of out of date issues. The server is just the default server installation with the samba install line and openssh added
[13:57] <Vigo> blue112: translation: Like language or kernel/source ?
[13:57] <kwtm> lacostej: It fails due to not finding the wx module.  Which wx python version do you want me to install?  2.8?
[13:58] <blue112> Vigo, language. The french translation has a mistake.
[13:58] <VALDIVIA> eeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:58] <VALDIVIA> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:58] <Pici> VALDIVIA: please stop
[13:59] <Vigo> blue112: What package?
[13:59] <tgnb> what do i have to do for X to start on my external monitor when my laptop is in the dock?
[13:59] <blue112> Vigo, mount.
[13:59] <VALDIVIA> tttttttttttttttttttttt
[13:59] <VALDIVIA> tttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[13:59] <VALDIVIA> t
[13:59] <VALDIVIA> t
[13:59] <FloodBot1> VALDIVIA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <vvv3> hi, I need some help with configuring the VIA driver. I compiled the last version from openchrome successfully, and installed it. But nothing seems to bring the 1024x800 or any resolution above 800x600. Any hint ?  I've also tried to add things via xrandr , but all that I get is "crtc 0" error
[13:59] <lacostej> kwtm: yes 2.8. As I said in my first message, the packet is python-wxgtk2.8. Thanks !
[14:00] <fernando> eeeeeeeeeeee
[14:00] <sine_> hi guys my wifi card is not detected in ubuntu and i wonder if there is a way i can get it to work. someone mentioned that i could use an ndiswrapper or somthing
[14:00] <fernando> eeeeeeeeeeeee
[14:00] <moetunes> vvv3: does it say why the limited resolution in the Xorg log?
[14:00] <Vigo> blue112: Have a look here:>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations
[14:01] <blue112> Vigo, I already searched on launchpad, but I can't find out the mount project :/
[14:02] <vvv3> moetunes: please , see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/197825/
[14:03] <lacostej> blue112 you can use apt-file to search for which packet contains a system file
[14:03] <Vigo> blue112: I am still looking, https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+imports
[14:03] <blue112> lacostej, I find out that "mount" is contained into the "mount" packet...
[14:03] <vvv3> moetunes: (I uninstalled vesa on purpose )
[14:04] <pingvinqq> t
[14:04] <abdullah> hi every body
[14:04] <abdullah> i have aproblem
[14:04] <LoveJoyDK> u
[14:04] <abdullah> i cant open my yahoo id
[14:04] <kwtm> lacostej: It crashed on the 5th time I clicked the button.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/409493/  I am using Hardy Heron 8.04.
[14:04] <abdullah> in ubutu
[14:04] <abdullah> can any one help me
[14:04] <sine_> how do i stop in the netbook remix the windows hiding hte minimise buttons its really really annoying
[14:05] <ced_> I can't get my sound card to work for some reason, i recompiled alsa and that kinda stuff, it does show up in lspci -v but doesn't in also, WHAT DO D:
[14:05] <ced_> Any help appreciated~
[14:05] <jiohdi> sine you can change to regular gnome or kde or icewm
[14:05] <paul3333> hi, can anyone help me? wine temp folder is not working
[14:06] <lacostej> blue112 Yes. Then  apt-cache show mount shows that Filename: pool/main/u/util-linux/mount_2.16-1ubuntu5_i386.deb, try the util-linux  project. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux
[14:06] <sine_> ok
[14:06] <lacostej> kwtm: thanks a lot !
[14:06] <pingvinqq> hi .. anybody knows a repo with kvirc and mirc in?:)
[14:06] <sine_> install IceWM-desktop
[14:06] <sine_> ?
[14:06] <blue112> lacostej, ok, I'm on the page, where can I fix a translation there ?
[14:06] <jiohdi> sine, apt-get install icewm icewm-themes
[14:06] <paul3333> can anyone help?
[14:06] <pingvinqq> hi .. anybody knows a repo with kvirc and mirc in?:)
[14:07] <jiohdi> sine, sudo apt-get install icewm icewm-themes
[14:07] <jiohdi> if you are not root
[14:07] <moetunes> vvv3: it says 800x600 is the largest available - didn't see anything to indicate it probed the monitor tho - might just be a via thing...
[14:07] <e3hcl> tell paul3333
[14:07] <alicia> hola
[14:07] <e3hcl> what happin
[14:07] <pingvinqq> hi .. anybody knows a repo with kvirc and mirc!?!?!
[14:07] <jiohdi> sine_: then you log out and change sessions and log back in
[14:07] <Azelphur> pingvinqq: mIRC is windows only
[14:08] <sine_> brb
[14:08] <Guest79569> holaaa
[14:08] <Vigo> blue112: gfxboot?
[14:08] <pingvinqq> yeah i know, fail .. just kvirc?,
[14:08] <vvv3> moetunes: do you think there is something extra to do , or just stick to what via achieves ?
[14:08] <Pici> !es | Guest79569
[14:08] <pingvinqq> anybody know a repo with kvirc?
[14:08] <LoveJoyDK> ikonia< Do you know od a different guide to set up PDC I could read and maybe find out what backend I use. Both my guides never mention backends at all
[14:08] <Azelphur> pingvinqq: no clue, I'd say xchat is nicer though
[14:08] <blue112> Vigo, huh ?
[14:08] <bastid_raZor> !find kvirc
[14:08] <bastid_raZor> !info kvirc
[14:08] <lacostej> blue112 not sure.
[14:08] <pingvinqq> Azelphur, yeah sure, but i need kvirc ..:)
[14:08] <Guest79569> ruben tu eres el de la clase de al ladoô¢?
[14:09] <bastid_raZor> pingvinqq: there you go. apt-get install kvirc
[14:09] <Guest79569> sii i so iconcocido por guest3294
[14:09] <Vigo> blue112: Is it the gfxboot ?
[14:09] <pingvinqq> bastid_raZor, dont work ..:(
[14:09] <bastid_raZor> pingvinqq: it is in the universe repo
[14:09] <Guest79569> haol holaaaaa
[14:09] <Guest79569> aûÝlsjfûÝaldjfûÝjasflja
[14:09] <Guest79569> aûÝsklfjaûÝlk
[14:09] <LoveJoyDK> pingvinqq< why kvirc?
[14:09] <blue112> Vigo, what do you mean by gfxboot ? The problem is when I use mount, it has a translation problem.
[14:09] <bastid_raZor> pingvinqq: neither does my sister-in-law but that description of don't work is lacking detail
[14:10] <PratikAnand> hi...I want to edit the start up pages of 9.10, how do i go about it?
[14:10] <kwtm> pingvinqq: I trust you know about Konversation, and you are deliberately using KVirc instead of Konversation?
[14:10] <pingvinqq> LoveJoyDK, cause i need that ..
[14:10] <llutz> pingvinqq: then install it from universe and use it
[14:11] <bastid_raZor> pingvinqq: what error message do you get when trying to install it?
[14:11] <pingvinqq> but .. the fact is i cant find kvirc, and i just need a repo with kvirc..
[14:11] <LoveJoyDK> pingvinqq< yes yes. Am am just new to irc on linux, and xchat is the first client I try. Just wanted to hear if you found something better.
[14:11] <llutz> another poor troll
[14:11] <bastid_raZor> llutz: was just going to ask pingvinqq if s/he was really using Ubuntu.
[14:12] <cbx> Blah! Canonical is Just copying Microsoft Strategies and giving Away Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 1 Free for months! Just like Windows 7 RC! :P
[14:12] <pingvinqq> bastid_raZor, what did you mean?
[14:12] <iceage> ÐÐÐ¨ÐÀÐ
[14:13] <kwtm> LoveJoyDK: xchat is nice.  I got used to it, but then Konversation is nice, too.  Kopete was more cluttered (to my memory).  Haven't tried Pidgin yet.
[14:13] <Vigo> blue112: Mount covers many things, ISO, Boot, USB, etc.etc.etc, I am looking for the solution....
[14:13] <erUSUL> !jp
[14:13] <bastid_raZor> pingvinqq: how are you trying to install kvirc ?
[14:13] <pingvinqq> bastid_raZor, Sudo aptitude install kvirc..?
[14:13] <PratikAnand> hi...I want to edit the start up pages of 9.10, how do i go about it?
[14:13] <blue112> Vigo, maybe I should submit a bug report on util-linux
[14:14] <pingvinqq> i need the repo with wine in .. ?
[14:14] <bastid_raZor> pingvinqq: lower case s  : also what error message are you getting?
[14:14] <Oer> !lubuntu
[14:14] <haavaros> Hi! I can't shutdown via the panel menu anymore, just set my status. I can shutdown via terminal, I know, but how do I fix the menu?
[14:14] <bastid_raZor> !panels | haavaros
[14:14] <haavaros> thx
[14:14] <lacostej> blue112 maybe this ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/util-linux-locales
[14:14] <LoveJoyDK> anyone else here know something about ubuntu PDC
[14:15] <kwtm> bastid_raZor: Does ubottu dispense this sort of advice for KDE?
[14:15] <pingvinqq> bastid_raZor, its just say its dont are there ..
[14:15] <Vigo> blue112: That sounds like the correct action, if is solved, it will be shown as, if it is in need of attention, it will be assigned, or maybe you can do it, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=mount
[14:15] <llutz> pingvinqq: grep -re universe /etc/apt/*.list
[14:16] <kazakh> hello
[14:16] <pingvinqq> llutz, i try .. thx :)
[14:16] <bastid_raZor> kwtm: possibly in #kubuntu .. i am not sure.
[14:16] <haavaros> bastid_raZor: That didn't work ... weird
[14:17] <Vigo> blue112: Yes, I just saw that , https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux
[14:17] <kwtm> bastid_raZor: Aaargh, ubottu dispenses GNOME advice in Kubuntu! :P  Oh, well.
[14:17] <bastid_raZor> kwtm: for a list of facts the bot knows type /msg ubottu factoids
[14:18] <bastid_raZor> haavaros: there is a Shut Down applet if you want to add one in the Add to Panels options of the panel
[14:18] <pingvinqq> Its just say could not find the package kvirc  ...
[14:18] <pingvinqq> :<
[14:19] <kaddy> hey does anybody know what plugins you need to view .pdf files within firefox?
[14:19] <blue112> Vigo, lacostej, ok, I've submited a bug report for util-linux.
[14:19] <tachiro> anyone know if there is a process that is responsible for the mouse and/or keyboard?
[14:19] <erUSUL> tachiro: the Xserver ?
[14:19] <tachiro> xserver eh?
[14:19] <Vigo> blue112: Thank you.
[14:19] <tachiro> ok i'm looking at my system monitor for it right now
[14:20] <llutz> pingvinqq: grep -r universe /etc/apt/*.list             what output does this command give?
[14:20] <pingvinqq> llutz, 2 sec.
[14:20] <pingvinqq> llutz, ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
[14:20] <pingvinqq> # deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[14:20] <pingvinqq> # deb-src http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[14:21] <Kartagis> !paste | pingvinqq
[14:21] <llutz> pingvinqq: you  need to enable universe in your sources
[14:21] <MikeyPooh> !lvm
[14:21] <pingvinqq> llutz, thx.. i try :P
[14:22] <pingvinqq> !paste | pingvinqq?
[14:22] <pingvinqq> !paste | pingvinqq?
[14:22] <llutz> pingvinqq: you have been told 5 that times now ...
[14:22] <pingvinqq> !paste | pingvinqq
[14:22] <FloodBot1> pingvinqq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <tachiro> erUSUL: nope don't see that running currently, but i'll tell you my issue. mouse has these weird 4-5 second lag periods and seizures where it'll double triple click things, then after a secodn or two it's back to normal, this just keeps happening all the time. just hoping it could be as simple as changing the priority on a particular process.
[14:23] <MikeyPooh> i installed ubuntu server following guide here for LVM, But where it says to select "Software Raid" from the menu , There is not an option to do that
[14:23] <pingvinqq> llutz, what should i do?
[14:23] <fale> I have a ntfs hard drive, I can read everything out of Documents and Settings/Marco/Documenti/File ricevuti/jcaru922585960553/Cronologia/* where I get 'Permission denied' how can I read thos files?
[14:23] <llutz> pingvinqq: you  need to enable universe in your sources
[14:23] <erUSUL> tachiro: do not think so... maybe there is some clue in the logs ... /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog ?
[14:23] <pingvinqq> llutz, how do i do that?:)
[14:23] <pingvinqq> llutz, pm?
[14:24] <tachiro> er: hmm.. ok, will look
[14:24] <llutz> pingvinqq: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, add "universe" to the active repos
[14:24] <llutz> !pm | pingvinqq
[14:24] <llutz> pingvinqq: and no, no pm please
[14:25] <pingvinqq> llutz,  okay ?:)
[14:25] <Vigo> pingvinqq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[14:25] <pingvinqq> llutz, what should i type en sources.list?
[14:26] <erUSUL> pingvinqq: System>Administration>Software Sources
[14:26] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, yes?
[14:26] <erUSUL> to enable universe graphically if you prefer
[14:27] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, but what should i do in the software sources?
[14:28] <tachiro> heey this is kinda cool, so if something is strange, it'll show up in these log things ah? well i looked at the time during the seizure and them opened the logs. didn't see any activity at exactly 9:25am
[14:28] <erUSUL> in the first tab tick the checkbox that read univers
[14:28] <tachiro> then*
[14:28] <erUSUL> in the first tab tick the checkbox that read universe and multiverse
[14:28] <Vigo> pingvinqq: This link explains it both ways: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu ,,,,enable Universe or whatever the package requires.
[14:28]  * bastid_raZor adds the underverse repo
[14:29] <MikeyPooh> lol
[14:29] <tuxsbro> If I get a much newer ati gfx card is the fglrx driver in restricted drivers manager the same one for all ati cards?
[14:29] <llutz> underwear?
[14:29] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, yes i already has ..?
[14:29] <erUSUL> pingvinqq: ok
[14:30] <MikeyPooh> ãÂtuxsbroãÂ the restricted driver works for my HD 4350 Card
[14:30] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, but .. anyways..
[14:30] <paul3333> hi, can someone assist me with the wine temporary folder problem?
[14:30] <erUSUL> tuxsbro: it supports recent cards; older ones may have to use the free radeon driver
[14:31] <tuxsbro> MikeyPooh: ok, I have a 4200 which is on the mobo and I am getting a 5770 today (yippy!) so i think it is the same driver
[14:31] <MikeyPooh> ãÂtuxsbroãÂ should work ok yes
[14:31] <tuxsbro> thanks
[14:31] <MikeyPooh> np
[14:31] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, but how do i enable univers?:)
[14:31] <MikeyPooh> i installed ubuntu server following guide here for LVM, But where it says to select "Software Raid" from the menu , There is not an option to do that
[14:32] <erUSUL> pingvinqq: if you did what i said it is enabled ...
[14:32] <LoveJoyDK> tuxbro< I am running ubutu with 5770 and two monitors now. Mouse dissapers sometime when I move from one screeen to another. but seems to work fine else
[14:32] <pingvinqq> yeah ..:) i try 2 sec.:)
[14:32] <szczepan> hosp
[14:33] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, why did i still cant find the program wine
[14:33] <pingvinqq> ?:)
[14:33] <LoveJoyDK> is wine a free program?
[14:33] <pingvinqq> LoveJoyDK, yes=
[14:33] <pingvinqq> *?
[14:33] <Vigo> !wine
[14:33] <MikeyPooh> its in the repos i believe
[14:34] <fale> I have a ntfs hard drive, I can read everything out of c:/Documents and Settings/Marco/Documenti/File ricevuti/jcaru922585960553/Cronologia/* where I get 'Permission denied' how can I read those files?
[14:34] <pingvinqq> !wine
[14:34] <pingvinqq> ?
[14:34] <erUSUL> pingvinqq: dunno; what version of ubuntu ?
[14:34] <pingvinqq> 9.10?
[14:34] <paul3333> help?
[14:35] <MikeyPooh> ãÂFaleãÂ did you set permissions on that drive?
[14:35] <erUSUL> pingvinqq: what does ô¨ apt-cache policy wine ô£ says ?
[14:35] <pingvinqq> 2 sec.?:)
[14:35] <costre> paul3333, Try adding WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine2" or something, to create a new .wine-directory. use "wine winecfg" to reach options
[14:35] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, could not find wine?
[14:35] <fale> MikeyPooh: I can read and write everywhere, even in that folder, but I can not read the files that Live MEssanger created, even if they are 777
[14:35] <Vigo> paul3333: Did you see the ubottu message?
[14:35] <pingvinqq> but i think i have find the problem .. :P
[14:36] <pingvinqq> maybe ..
[14:36] <llutz> pingvinqq: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kvirc wine
[14:36] <paul3333> Vigo no
[14:36] <pingvinqq> llutz, i think its works .. maybe :P
[14:36] <Vigo> !Wine | paul3333
[14:37] <costre> paul3333, sorry, I meant run " WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine2" wine winecfg  "
[14:37] <MikeyPooh> ãÂfaleãÂ i had that problem once but i can't remember how i got around it...sorry
[14:37] <fale> MikeyPooh: I see :( thank you
[14:38] <erUSUL> !ntfs | fale
[14:38] <fale> erUSUL: I'm using ntfs-3g and I'm correctly reading all but those ~10 files
[14:39] <MikeyPooh> when u setup Raid during install do you have to do anything else after install to see the drives?
[14:39] <erUSUL> fale: copy them with sudo ?
[14:39] <fale> erUSUL: even sudo returns the "Permission denied"
[14:39] <Baram> I had a HD fail in one of my boxes, I have an old IDE drive I can use temporarily, what is the best way to move everything over (it doesn't boot, so will use a liveCD) 100%
[14:39] <erUSUL> :S
[14:39] <WhiteDawn> fale: log into super user with "sudo -i" then run whatever erUSUL told you
[14:40] <llutz> Baram: rsync / tar / cp -ax, whatever you want
[14:40] <fale> WhiteDawn: same :(
[14:40] <erUSUL> Baram: is only data or you want to restore the whole system ?
[14:40] <Baram> erUSUL the whole system
[14:40] <LoveJoyDK> anyone here who uses a samba domain controller ?
[14:40] <pingvinqq> erUSUL, THX !!!:)
[14:40] <Baram> erUSUL it's a server I need to work, so I need it up asap and I can buy a replacement drive tomorrow
[14:40] <erUSUL> Baram: partimage or clonezilla ? or what llutz said
[14:41] <paul3333> !slate
[14:41] <Baram> erUSUL either of those should just move data over and then I can boot up like before... hopefully?
[14:41] <llutz> Baram: you have to reinstall grub and change /etc/fstab to get it running
[14:42] <paul3333> !Slate
[14:42] <metatagg> k up stuff
[14:42] <erUSUL> Baram: partimage or clonezilla are a bit like norton ghost they do an image of the disk or partitions
[14:42] <llutz> rewrite grub *
[14:42] <erUSUL> Baram: the options lluzt gave make copy at file level ...
[14:43] <Baram> llutz how would I reinstall grub if it doesn't boot, I would assume would need to use a liveCD somehow
[14:43] <iceage> good evening
[14:43] <llutz> Baram: use the live-cd to rewrite grub
[14:43] <Baram> I've moved stuff over before, but never tried to clone a disk under these conditions
[14:43] <Vigo> !grub
[14:44] <Baram> and my wife wonders why I keep old parts around... thank god I've got a working HD I can use
[14:45] <LoveJoyDK> Baram, LOL next time she asks about the old parts just say -I keep you, don't I. :D
[14:45] <Baram> lovejoydk heh, I should try that :P
[14:45] <erUSUL> Baram: yes hopefull with clonezilla would be able to do it http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-clone-hard-drives-clonezilla
[14:45] <erUSUL> http://goinglinux.com/articles/ClonezillaLive.html
[14:47] <erUSUL> Baram: the method llutz describes should work too i've moved installations from one disk to other disks with tar a couple of times (restoring grub and tweaking fstab as needed after the copies are done)
[14:48] <Baram> erUSUL I assume I would still need to reinstall grub and fstab with clonezilla?
[14:49] <erUSUL> Baram: clonezilla as i understand it; whould backup grub too but i guess you will have to tweak fstab (uuid's will change)
[14:50] <fale> got why it does not work :)
[14:50] <Baram> erUSUL thanks... I'll try that first... *sigh* now it doesn't want to fully post again
[14:50] <fale> linux sees those files as they are folders
[14:50] <fran> .hglho
[14:50] <fran> hello
[14:50] <fale> but I have no clue about how to fix it :(
[14:51] <zen_cat> does anyone else here have a sharp netwalker?
[14:51] <RiotingPacifist> is flgrx Version: 2:8.660-0ubuntu4 , new enough to support evergreen cards
[14:52] <erUSUL> RiotingPacifist: consult ati website ?
[14:52] <RiotingPacifist> erUSUL: ati website won't say anything about ubuntu versioning
[14:55] <tatukapata> tengo inconveniente con empathy para realizar la conexion, me indica ingresar la contraseûÝa para desbloquear el anillo pero no ingresa ya que en forma continua solicita la contraseûÝa, parece un bucle sin fin
[14:55] <costre> !es tatukapata
[14:56] <costre> !es | tatukapata
[14:56] <haavaros> Hi! I can't shutdown via the panel menu anymore, just set my status. I can shutdown via terminal, I know, but how do I fix the menu? I mean the menu that drops down from your username
[14:56] <Baram> !grub2
[14:57] <tatukapata> I have problem with empathy for the connection, tells me to enter the password to unlock the ring but does not enter as continually requesting the password, it seems an endless loop
[14:57] <jigap> is there a way to specify the kernel version on the ubuntu apt-get update?
[14:57] <costre> haavaros, Isn't that the instant messenger-menu?
[14:58] <haavaros> costre: Yes, but it also had the shutdown option before this happened
[14:58] <Alan> Does anybody know of an audio player that has decent support for the albumartist tag in its library?
[14:58] <cisox> Does anyone have a package for ejabberd 2.1.3 floating around somewhere?
[14:58] <Alan> I'm getting fed up of my compilations being spread all over the place...
[14:59] <minimec> jigap: Choose the linux-image(s) you want to install with synaptic, install them and remove the linux-image generic package.
[14:59] <jigap> minimec: thanks
[14:59] <costre> haavaros, Try to remove it from panel and the re'add Indicator session applet
[14:59] <arvind_khadri> Alan, rythmbox, audcious
[14:59] <jigap> one more question, is there a way to encrypt the entire filesystem on an already installed non-encrypted ubuntu system?
[14:59] <artanis^> gah. Have to pay more for crossoffice then I did for my office 2007 enterprice.
[15:00] <jigap> i mean without doing it manually using cryptsetup and stuff
[15:00] <Alan> arvind_khadri: rhythmbox certainly doesn't...
[15:00] <haavaros> costre: Nope, didn't work
[15:00] <costre> jigap, Try truecrypt, I know it can handle a windows partition
[15:00] <Alan> and audacious doesn't have a library
[15:01] <Baram> erUSUL I'm reading through the stuff on clonezilla, my disks are different sizes, (dead one has a ton of unused space), can clonezilla manage that?
[15:01] <jigap> costre: it's a linux partition
[15:01] <costre> jigap, I understood that :)
[15:01] <jigap> I mean I want everything except /boot
[15:01] <geekphreak> evening folks
[15:01] <jigap> oh ok
[15:01] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri: :)
[15:02] <elisa87> is anyone here familiar with Trouble Ticketing?
[15:02] <elisa87> what is the best framework for trouble ticketing to be chosen for a company?
[15:02] <gregg> if I upgrade to lucid and everything breaks - is there an "easy" way to revert? I don't feel like re-installing my whole system ;)
[15:02] <maco> elisa87: rt is very common
[15:02] <maco> elisa87: it's what canonical's sysadmins use, and its what we use where i work
[15:03] <geekphreak> gregg: no undo option :p
[15:03] <elisa87> RT is a framework? better tham flySpy?
[15:03] <elisa87> are they FOSS>?
[15:03] <gregg> geekphreak: now, that's not the answer I wanted... :p
[15:03] <geekphreak> gregg: format ;)
[15:03] <gregg> geekphreak: backup first, then format ;)
[15:04] <dbruns> i need to install php5-dev however I'm getting this error:  php5-dev: Conflicts: libtool (>= 2.2) but 2.2.6a-4 is to be installed       how can this be resolved?
[15:04] <geekphreak> gregg: always :)
[15:04] <maco> elisa87: rt is foss,yes. code's on github. http://bestpractical.com/rt/
[15:04] <gregg> geekphreak: how's the beta looking? still a lot of broken stuff?
[15:04] <maco> elisa87: ive never used flyspy, and when i google it i get airplane ticketing
[15:04] <moetunes> g++ doesn't support shared libraries - what am I missing?
[15:04] <geekphreak> working great
[15:07] <elisa87> FlySpray is a 'bug tracking system' intended for software development
[15:07] <Baram> crap me
[15:07] <devian> hey
[15:08] <devian> anyone here use pidgin? i can't change the font...
[15:08] <elisa87> maco take  look at this: http://www.software-pointers.com/en-defecttracking-tools.html
[15:08] <geekphreak> devian: whats the error?
[15:08] <marcuy> my user automatic logs out while being in ubuntu 9.10, anyone knows about this bug?
[15:08] <devian> geekphreak, there's no error, not that i see
[15:09] <maco> elisa87: you said "spy" not "spray" before :P
[15:09] <devian> geekphreak, i check the checkbox to enablel Pidgint GTK+ Theme Control
[15:09] <elisa87> maco what about trac?
[15:09] <geekphreak> ok
[15:09] <elisa87> sorry
[15:09] <elisa87> ;D
[15:09] <devian> geekphreak, then i enter the plugin configuration, and i choose a monospace font for "interface" and also for "conversation entry"
[15:09] <zbenjamin> hi @ all
[15:09] <zbenjamin> i have some problems with the iwlagn driver, i cannot connect to a AP. this is what dmesg tells me: http://pastebin.com/kMzmBBiG
[15:09] <devian> i click both the save button and the "re-read gtkrc"
[15:09] <elisa87> which one should i select for my company?
[15:10] <devian> and try restarting pidgin
[15:10] <devian> but no change
[15:11] <maco> elisa87: if you want to check out existing uses of them (check out the interfaces and all), here's a project that uses trac: http://status.net/trac/report
[15:11] <maco> elisa87: trac does more than just bug tracking, iirc. it has a wiki and things built in
[15:11] <elisa87> maco all of them are trouble ticketing system?
[15:12] <elisa87> in which case do you use these systems maco?
[15:13] <Baram> erUSUL you still here?
[15:13] <elisa87> which one of these TT are mostly used by sysAdmins in companies?
[15:13] <geekphreak> devian:  ok
[15:13] <maco> elisa87: bugzilla and trac seem more commonly used for software bug reporting, whereas i see rt used for that and for things like "please setup a server so i can do my work" -- for example, bugzilla asks lots of questions useful for software issues, like "what version?" "steps to reproduce?" etc
[15:13] <schweegi> Hello. i've the problem since this morning that when i start a multiplayer game in sauerbraten that ubuntu crashes. a singleplayer game would run perfectly. who can i solve this problem ?
[15:13] <devian> geekphreak, i know this feature "works" because i've used it on both windows an linux before
[15:13] <elisa87> aha ... it solves a problem steps by steps
[15:13] <devian> geekphreak, i do know that on windows you must select something other than the "windows" GTK+ theme
[15:13] <elisa87> which one is more userfriendly?
[15:14] <devian> but on linux it should just work
[15:14] <dnivra> hello. is there any documentation for header files like stdio.h which can be installed in ubuntu?
[15:14] <geekphreak> devian:  do this man
[15:14] <geekphreak> just choose ur font, hit ok
[15:14] <geekphreak> dont hit re read
[15:14] <devian> there is no OK button there's only write/read/close
[15:15] <schweegi> can anybody help me ?
[15:15] <arvind_khadri> dnivra, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[15:15] <geekphreak> devian:  just choose ur font for all 5/6 option , under font tag
[15:15] <geekphreak> hit close
[15:15] <arvind_khadri> !details | schweegi
[15:15] <maco> elisa87: i think you might want to try logging into them and see how they work. you can see the canonical sysadmin's rt here: http://rt.ubuntu.com user: ubuntu password: ubuntu
[15:16] <dnivra> arvind_khadri, package already installed. so how do I access the documentation then?
[15:16] <maco> elisa87: i know you can report issues to rt through email. dont know if you can do that with the others
[15:16] <crofalcon> can someone tell me whats this i'm gettin every time I log onto my pidgin with my msn acc:
[15:16] <crofalcon> "(04:15:19 PM) frigg: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to crofalcon) from frigg" ??
[15:16] <devian> geekphreak, did that, still no change
[15:16] <devian> geekphreak, and there's only 4 options for me under the font tab
[15:16] <acicula> crofalcon: freenode bot
[15:16] <geekphreak> devian:  did u enable both theme plugins?
[15:17] <crofalcon> what does that mean :/
[15:17] <anivair> this is becoming a pain for me:  I can't permanantly change /et/resolv.conf.  Every time I reboot, it reverts back to the old one.  Anyone know how to get around this?
[15:17] <schweegi> i've tell you that before... i used ubuntu karmic koala 9.10, and since this morning i can't start a multiplayer game in sauerbraten because ubuntu crashes. when i try to start a singleplayer game it works, but even not a multiplayer game
[15:17] <geekphreak> devian:  theme editor and theme controller gtk?
[15:17] <devian> geekphreak, you mean Pidgin GTK+ Theme Control and Pidgin Theme Editor?
[15:17] <devian> nope, not yet
[15:17] <devian> just did that
[15:17] <geekphreak> now re assign fonts
[15:17] <geekphreak> then click close
[15:18] <crofalcon> can anyone help me with TS3 installation ? I downloaded the "TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta18.run" file from teamspeak site
[15:18] <crofalcon> not quite sure what to do with it :S
[15:18] <arvind_khadri> dnivra, documentation regarding?
[15:18] <acicula> anivair: /etc/resolv.conf is autoenerated, it says soin the file, try configuring via nm-applet or directly in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:19] <JesusFreak> I need immediate help!
[15:19] <crofalcon> any help for TS3 please? :/
[15:19] <acicula> JesusFreak: try asking
[15:19] <arvind_khadri> !help | JesusFreak
[15:19] <geekphreak> dnivra: coding in c/c++ ?
[15:19] <Pici> anivair: Or you can modify and uncomment the prepend domain-name-servers line in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf  if you have a dynamic ip.
[15:19] <dnivra> arvind_khadri, documentation for C header files. like this one I found http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/unistd.h.html. was wondering if Ubuntu had something that I could install.
[15:19] <devian> JesusFreak, so ask jesus
[15:19] <Pici> devian: Please be nice.
[15:19] <Pici> !ask | JesusFreak
[15:19] <acicula> dnivra: manpages-dev
[15:19] <devian> JesusFreak, the urgency of your problem does not impress anyone, everyone's time is valuable, you'll only annoy us if you say stuff like that
[15:20] <geekphreak> dnivra:  header files are already on ur system, if u have the packages installed
[15:20] <arvind_khadri> !compile ? dnivra
[15:20] <arvind_khadri> !compile > dnivra
[15:20] <dnivra> acicula, that package is also installed.
[15:20] <crofalcon> i'll try again - can anyone tell me what to do with the "TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta18.run" file that I downloaded from TS3
[15:20] <devian> geekphreak, nope, still no change whatsoever
[15:20] <JesusFreak> I installed ubuntu on windows as a program and then uninstalled and now when I start my computer is asks me of I want to run windows or ubuntu, when I click on ubuntu it fails because I removed the files. So how do I get ubuntu off of startup?
[15:20] <arvind_khadri> geekphreak, he wants to read the documentations
[15:20] <acicula> dnivra: then you should hav the basic c library man pages i think
[15:20] <netech> JesusFreak: edit boot.ini
[15:21] <JesusFreak> where can I find that file?
[15:21] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri:  lol, just open teh header files, see the code lol
[15:21] <dnivra> geekphreak, I'm trying to write my own basic shell using system calls. so would be nice if could have a documentation like this http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/unistd.h.html.
[15:21] <schweegi> hm, i see that i'm alone with that problem here.
[15:21] <crofalcon> anyone? TS3 question? :(
[15:21] <geekphreak> JesusFreak:  hi
[15:21] <dnivra> acicula, that package manpages-dev is already installed.
[15:21] <netech> JesusFreak: it's a "hidden" file on your C:\
[15:21] <bogdan> i need some IM client for command line
[15:21] <geekphreak> JesusFreak:  xp?
[15:21] <bogdan> any sugestions?
[15:21] <JesusFreak> netech : thank you
[15:21] <acicula> dnivra: type man unistd ?
[15:21] <netech> or, run msconfig and edit it from there
[15:22] <acicula> dnivra: ah i see nvm thats not in manpages-dev
[15:22] <acicula> dnivra: syscall=!c calls
[15:22] <trexyz> hey i need some IM client for command line
[15:22] <crofalcon> can anyone please tell me what to do with the "TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta18.run" file that I downloaded from TS3? how to run/install it?
[15:22] <geekphreak> trexyz:  for what, yahoo ? irc?
[15:22] <trexyz> yahoo
[15:23] <joaopinto> crofalcon, chmod 755  file; ./file
[15:23] <geekphreak> trexyz: zinc was there first, not sure if it still around
[15:23] <trexyz> okay
[15:23] <robert__> hey
[15:23] <trexyz> other client
[15:23] <netech> I'd like to see how JesusFreak reacts to an actual emergency.
[15:23] <trexyz> s
[15:23] <JesusFreak> geekphreak : yes
[15:23] <trexyz> ?
[15:23] <dnivra> acicula well I need to know more about system header files like that documentation in that link. I have a system calls list with me(though not so detailed; is that also available in man pages?)
[15:24] <acicula> dnivra: its in manpages-posix-dev
[15:24] <geekphreak> JesusFreak: so u just wana get rid of ubuntu entry right?
[15:24] <JesusFreak> yes
[15:24] <schweegi> i try to find a solution myself.. goodbye.
[15:24] <odinsbane> I'm setting an environment variable via export in my .bashrc, the variable doesn't appear to be set for 'application' launchers that use /bin/bash /path/to/cmd
[15:24] <JesusFreak> geekphreak: yes
[15:24] <acicula> dnivra: you mean the systemcall numbering?
[15:24] <geekphreak> JesusFreak:  can i pm as this question can come under windows
[15:25] <Ridders24> how do I partition 512bytes in gparted?
[15:25] <JesusFreak> geekphreak: yes
[15:25] <dnivra> acicula, system call numbering? what is that?
[15:25] <DarkSector> wow not one finished voice recog system exists for linux
[15:26] <DarkSector> now that's insulting
[15:26] <Vince> hi guys
[15:26] <geekphreak> DarkSector: make one
[15:26] <acicula> dnivra: the way you interact with systemcalls
[15:26] <Ridders24> how do I partition 512bytes in gparted?
[15:26] <odinsbane> is it possible to use my .bashrc when I launch programs from the menu, or is there a different rc?
[15:26] <DarkSector> geekphreak: trying one on matlab...but its too much of an hassle, thinking one on ocatave
[15:26] <acicula> is by setting registers and calling int80, on linux kernels anyway, syscalls are identified by their numbers
[15:27] <arvind_khadri> odinsbane, which variable ?
[15:27] <devian> geekphreak, ok well apparently the GTK+ Theme Control plugin is broken on ubuntu, but i can use the preferences -> conversation panel to change my conversation area font
[15:27] <odinsbane> $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[15:27] <moetunes> I'm getting   checking whether the g++ linker (ld) supports shared libraries... no   error rebuilding vlc - what am I missing?
[15:27] <Vince> I've got a serious problem... i've updated my ubuntu netbook remix installation with his updates and now my interface doesn't load. only the top bar is loaded...
[15:27] <devian> geekphreak, which is actually what i really wanted, i don't actually wanna change the GTK+ theme font, i like it the way it is, just the conversation fonts, so that works fine
[15:27] <devian> someone should file a bug for that though
[15:27] <dnivra> acicula, well I'm basically trying to implement a shell. i search and find the syntax and all the constants and things like that about system calls. is there some documentation on the various system calls with the syntax and things like that. I have a few like stat(2). but is there more?
[15:28] <devian> cuz the GTK+ theme control def doesn't work/is broken
[15:28] <dnivra> acicula, what does manpages-posix-dev install?
[15:28] <acicula> dnivra: can you explain the difference between a library call and a syscall?
[15:29] <Vince> I've got a serious problem... i've updated my ubuntu netbook remix installation with his updates and now my interface doesn't load. only the top bar is loaded...
[15:29] <acicula> dnivra: man syscalls for a list man 2 <syscallname> for specifics
[15:29] <dnivra> acicula, not a library call, library files: the header files such as stdio.h, unistd.h etc that is.
[15:29] <devian> Vince, we heard you the first time
[15:29] <arvind_khadri> moetunes, have you installed build-essential ?
[15:29] <Cyber_Akuma> If I want to chainload ubuntu's grub from another bootloader, how should I install ubuntu in order to do that? Or would I need to manually install grub on the partition instead of the MBR after ubuntu is installed?
[15:30] <moetunes> arvind_khadri: that's how I got g++
[15:31] <DrHalan> hey
[15:31] <DrHalan> im looking for a ppa that contains evolution 2.30
[15:31] <acicula> dnivra: yeah those headers are part of the c library
[15:32] <acicula> dnivra: if you want to know what those do type man stdio for a list
[15:32] <Vince> somebody who can help me ?
[15:32] <dnivra> acicula, why don't I have one for unistd? any idea?
[15:33] <acicula> dnivra: as i said its in a different man package, dunno why, manpages-posix-dev is what its called
[15:33] <arvind_khadri> moetunes, run ldconfig once
[15:33] <dnivra> acicula, I also want to see documentation for header files like unistd.h, sys/types.h etc. if those are a part of manpages-posix-dev, no luck I can't view them.(is sys/types.h also a part of that package?)
[15:33] <geekphreak> dnivra:  ever though about actually getting a book?
[15:34] <seyfarth> ubuntu forgot my one account has sudo priviledges? I'm getting "no sudoer access" errrors. How do I fix this?
[15:34] <geekphreak> seyfarth: chk the group settings
[15:34] <aless33> buona giornata a tutti
[15:35] <acicula> dnivra: man packages just install man pages
[15:35] <Pici> !it | aless33
[15:35] <Doug__> ok guys.  i am about to reinsatll my entire rig, but i am going from 1 TB wd caviar black to an ssd.  I know that windows 7 plays nice with ssd but how am i going to set my dual boot back up.  also i dont avhe a place to backup my WD are i going to lose my home partion.
[15:35] <moetunes> arvind_khadri: did that - no fix that way :(
[15:35] <aless33> grazie
[15:35] <dnivra> geekphreak, I just want to read documentation and do it. thing is all books contain the solution mostly and I don't want to copy straight the programs: no much documentation on those headers like that link. think I'll settle for man syscalls. @acicula thanks for that. thanks to geekphreak and arvind_khadri too!
[15:35] <seyfarth> geekphreak: what group am I looking to be in? looks like this might be the issue
[15:36] <Cyber_Akuma> anyone?
[15:36] <Pici> seyfarth: Unless you modified /etc/sudoers, you need to be in the 'admin' group to use sudo
[15:36] <acicula> dnivra: if you look in types you see it says it defines the types according to the posix2.6 standard, the header itself is part of libc(/any standard c library?)
[15:36] <crofalcon> where did my TS3 just go ? did "chmod -x /home/facon/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta18.run" and then just "sudo /home/facon/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta18.run" .. seems to have finished installing it, but isn't showing anywhere
[15:37] <dnivra> acicula, yes it is a part of glibc. hmm so glibc documentation eh?
[15:37] <acicula> dnivra: what are you trying to program exactly, you dont write a shell aka like bash in syscalls
[15:37] <seyfarth> Pici: so if I have only one account that isn't, there isn't much I can do?
[15:37] <cami> hola
[15:37] <acicula> dnivra: yes and no
[15:37] <geekphreak> seyfarth: admin
[15:37] <cami> como como como
[15:37] <cami> puta
[15:37] <acicula> dnivra: its a posix standard, which the library uses
[15:37] <geekphreak> seyfarth:  sudo visudo  :)
[15:37] <Pici> seyfarth: You can boot into recovery mode and then run: adduser youruser admin
[15:38] <cami> quiero pollaaaaaaaaaaas
[15:38] <thewho> hi all
[15:38] <geekphreak> seyfarth:  you can change setting there, good luck
[15:38] <Doug__> does anyone have experience in this stting up my dual boot before was a bit of a pain.
[15:38] <dnivra> acicula, well we've to implement shell programs such as ls, cp etc using system calls and finally integrate them into a single program that provides basic shell functionality.
[15:38] <seyfarth> geekphreak: Its a VM. No grub. I'll figure it out though, thanks guys :)
[15:38] <geekphreak> i am on dual boot
[15:38] <crofalcon> i know its a long line, but can anyone please try to read it and tell me what went wrong
[15:38] <dnivra> acicula, oh right sorry. posix standard documentation. got it.
[15:39] <acicula> dnivra: so basically homework
[15:39] <conb123> So is beta 1 of 10.04 worth a try then? Is it relatively bug free?
[15:39] <Pici> conb123 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[15:39] <haavaros> shutdown and logoff options has disappeared from the indicator applet. What do I do now?
[15:39] <haavaros> I have tried reboot
[15:39] <geekphreak> haavaros:  add it again
[15:39] <haavaros> geekphreak: I've tried that too
[15:39] <geekphreak> and?
[15:40] <haavaros> and reverting to default
[15:40] <Trek> conb123: a thought: NO Beta version of any software is 100% bug free
[15:40] <dnivra> acicula, thanks for pointing me in the direction. not exactly homework: it's a project yes but I'm really interested in learning these well and making a good application or something to enhance understanding. not just for my course requirements but to really learn it.
[15:40] <Pici> haavaros: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:40] <haavaros> Pici: 9.10
[15:40] <conb123> Trek: Yes I understand that, hence the use of 'relatively'
[15:40] <Ich> hi
[15:40] <crofalcon> I did "chmod -x ts3install.run" and then "sudo ts3install.run".. installation finished but I cant find it anywhere :/
[15:40] <Baram> my disk got a s.m.a.r.t error, grub starts but fails and a liveCD fails to mount it... any chance of recovery? (currently trying clonezilla, watching the errors scroll by)
[15:40] <Trek> conb123: hence why I stated the fact that nothing's bug free.  just wait for them to release the stable distro
[15:41] <acicula> dnivra: well working with syscalls on ubuntu/linux is pretty well documented,linux\unistd.h has numbers for syscalls and syscall manpages are in section 2, library ones in 3
[15:41] <costre> Baram, Damn ... a bonafide hard drive failure looks like
[15:41] <geekphreak> Baram: hard drive going kapooot
[15:41] <acicula> dnivra: oh and dont bother with __SYSCALL macros, think those are deprecated , at least they didnt work the last time i tried but some texts will still point you towards those
[15:42] <dnivra> acicula, will remember that! time to save this log file:). thanks a lot acicula was a load of help.
[15:42] <dnivra> acicula, oh that is important news: fresh out of reading one of those macro definitions.
[15:42] <geekphreak> Baram: you can use data recovery tools, cross fingers ;)
[15:42] <Baram> geekphreak I think going has come and gone
[15:42] <geekphreak> Baram:  ext4 partition or ext3?
[15:42] <Baram> geekphreak any suggestions, my (no longer fool proof) method in the past has always been a liveCD
[15:43] <Baram> geekphreak ext4
[15:43] <crofalcon> please, need some help with TS3 installation.... got the file and ran it... installed, but not showing up anywhere
[15:43] <acicula> dnivra: you can get it to work i think, but i remember jumping throuhg a lot of hoops to do it
[15:43] <Ahlee> if mounting a remote file server via nautilus (i think that's it, like the finder in osx or iexplore in windows for browsing the filesysetm), where does that get mounted so i can get to the same directory via the terminal?  I'm unable to see it mounted in /proc/mounts
[15:43] <dnivra> acicula, it's deprecated right? so better to find the alternative to it.
[15:43] <geekphreak> Baram: risky thing ;)
[15:43] <acicula> dnivra: if all else fails you can just inline a bit of asm, heh, just not very pretty
[15:43] <deightm> hi need help with ubuntu
[15:44] <deightm> anybody?
[15:44] <geekphreak> Baram: got any other partition there to test/play?
[15:44] <moetunes> Ahlee: mounting it via? - smb?
[15:44] <haavaros> shutdown and logoff options has disappeared from the indicator applet. I have Ubuntu 9.10, I have tried reverting to gnome panel defaults, readding indicator and googling. Still have to use terminal or ctrl-alt-del to shutdown. Any suggestions?
[15:44] <Roasted> Hey guys. I would like to install Ubuntu + all updates + a certain program, then zip everything back up into an ISO that people can easily download and install with stuff pre-packaged. A - How do I do that? Is there a tool to handle this task? B - Where could I host a 1gb-1.5gb file for people to easily download?
[15:44] <Baram> geekphreak: thinking I might go back to ext3 next time
[15:44] <acicula> dnivra: not really sure, it just didnt work for me last i tried and had to jump through a fair bit of hoops to get it to compile, try it i suppose?
[15:44] <Ahlee> moetunes: yes sorry, it's a cifs share so Samaba would have mounted it
[15:44] <DarkSector> deightm: ask
[15:44] <geekphreak> Baram: when u try to mont via live cd , device busy error?
[15:45] <Baram> geekphreak: IO error in dmesg
[15:45] <dnivra> acicula, he he. we have to use syscalls to do stuff. else the shell would have been filled with execlp("/bin/ls"..) and so on; making it a complete bash clone:). yeah I will give it a shot.
[15:45] <Ahlee> moetunes: I don't 100% recall how I originally mounted it, it's a short cut on my desktop now that I double click, but I haven't rebooted in a few weeks
[15:45] <moetunes> Ahlee: checked in /mnt or /media?
[15:45] <geekphreak> Baram: thats not good, , so u cant even chroot , dang
[15:45] <DarkSector> deightm: yeah...ask
[15:45] <Baram> geekphreak: yeah, that's why I'm trying clonezilla now... it's doing something, and yelling at me with a ton of errors
[15:46] <rashd7_> hi
[15:46] <Ahlee> moetunes: yes, it's not there either.  Maybe gnome is wrapping fuse to mount it?
[15:46] <rashd7_> is there a getch() like function when using g++
[15:46] <jpam> Hi ! Why Jdownloader uses more than 230 mb on my Ubuntu 9.1 but on Windows 7 max 100 mb ? :( Both of OS are 64 bit ?
[15:46] <Ahlee> I'm about ready to just remount it from the terminal
[15:46] <deightm> I have laptop running win7, with share on it. Ive managed to mount that share on my netbook running unr. But share autounmounts in about half an hour
[15:47] <moetunes> Ahlee: afaik that's more than probable - try   ./.gvfs
[15:47] <DarkSector> deightm: did you mount it using the adding it to fstab method ?
[15:47] <moetunes> Ahlee: afaik that's more than probable - try   ~/.gvfs - I meant
[15:47] <deightm> so i left my netbook to copy files, and when i returned file manager hanged
[15:47]  * Baram is wishing he took that computer foreinsics class now
[15:48] <Ahlee> jpam: different JVMs between Win7 and Ubuntu 9.10 - are you using Sun's JVM under Windows, and whatever implementation ubuntu drops in their repos now-a-days
[15:48] <SignalDancer> Hi folks, ah, got a strange problem. maybe. So, i've been having issues installing ubuntu and wanted to try the text only install, given the ATI/AMD setup I have. Trouble is, I downloaded the x64 alt install cd, but it doesnt...give me any options for that mode? I'm kind of confused.
[15:48] <Ahlee> moetunes: winner!  it's right there in ~/.gvfs/<mount>
[15:48] <jpam> Yes áÝ'm using Sun Java both of OS. (both are updated)
[15:48] <SignalDancer> as my plan was text only install then load the ATI driver port to ubuntu and see if i could well..run.
[15:48] <moetunes> Ahlee: :)
[15:48] <deightm> DarkSector: Ive monted it using "Connect to server..." under main menu
[15:49] <DarkSector> deightm: wait a minute, you said the share existing on the local machine right ?
[15:49] <geekphreak> Baram: 1 sec
[15:49] <Ahlee> jpam: then I'm going to say that it's likely not using more memory, it's reporting different memory usage due to the difference Linux displays managed memory and how Windwos displays managed memory
[15:49] <deightm> DarkSector: yes share is on my laptop running win 7
[15:49] <rashd7_> is there a getch() like function when using gcc
[15:49] <geekphreak> Baram:  you there?
[15:49] <jpam> hmmm ...
[15:49] <deightm> DarkSector: and ive mounted it on my netbook running ubuntu netbook remix
[15:49] <DarkSector> deightm: ah ok
[15:49] <jpam> you say windows is bad boy :)
[15:49] <acicula> rashd7_: getch is provided by ncurses, has little to do with gcc?
[15:50] <deightm> DarkSector: and everything works fine, except it autou unmounts after little time
[15:50] <DarkSector> deightm: hang on
[15:50] <deightm> DarkSector: power is connected so its not power saving problem
[15:50] <SignalDancer> hrm, anybody?
[15:50] <Ahlee> jpam: No, I said it's reporting different values, not that the differences is necessarily better or worse.  Linux memory management and how it's displayed is a muddy, murky thing, especially when you start diving into linked libraries
[15:51] <jpam> hmm. OK! Thank you!...
[15:51] <deightm> DarkSector: laptop and netbook are connected via wifi through access point
[15:51] <deightm> DarkSector: and im pretty sure connection is 100% stable
[15:52] <deightm> DarkSector: so i believe there is an option for auto unmount
[15:52] <deightm> DarkSector: but because of little ubuntu expirience i have no idea where to search for that option
[15:53] <crofalcon> anyone please, how do I install teamspeak 3
[15:53] <McL0VIN_> hi
[15:53] <Dr4g> How can i have this automount upon bootup - smb://mcs01/development/
[15:54] <Dr4g> so when i do file -> open for stuff i'd like to see my share appear there.
[15:54] <McL0VIN_> i have setup xstart and now i am at work and i would like to open firefox from home how can i do this please
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> Dr4g:  add a proper entry in /etc/fstab for that.  using 'cifs' for the fileysstem
[15:54] <deightm> DarkSector: any ideas?
[15:54] <Dr4g> Dr_Willis, i will google for fstab and cifs
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> Dr4g:  check the smbmount  docs also theres should be examples
[15:55] <crofalcon> can someone please tell me how to install TeamSpeak 3 ?
[15:55] <deightm> Who can tell me why file copy speed win7 -> win7 was 950 kbytes/s via wifi, but win7 -> ubuntu on same machines makes only 500 kbytes/s ?
[15:55] <ZTG|Homework> I don't know how.
[15:56] <deightm> Is this wifi driver related issue?
[15:56] <agasdfgasdfsd> Someone who is native english speaker tell me if statement "PASCAL's beginners language" is correct and means the same that "Pascal is beginners language" ?
[15:56] <Roasted> Hey guys. I would like to install Ubuntu + all updates + a certain program, then zip everything back up into an ISO that people can easily download and install with stuff pre-packaged. A - How do I do that? Is there a tool to handle this task? B - Where could I host a 1gb-1.5gb file for people to easily download?
[15:56] <Ahlee> deightm: crappy wifi drivers, poor implementation of SMB2 protocol, interference in the wireless spectrum, the possibilities are numerous
[15:56] <geekphreak> though teampseak was in synaptic
[15:56] <Dr4g> Dr_Willis, i'm unsure of what to add in my /etc/fstab file.
[15:56] <marcuy> anyone knows how to fix the bug at ubuntu 9.10 where the xserver crashes and logs out the user to gdm?
[15:57] <Trek> deightm: slight networking lag?  might not even be an issue
[15:57] <McL0VIN_> i have setup xstart and now i am at work and i would like to open firefox from home how can i do this please
[15:57] <Dr4g> Dr_Willis, the examples i see on the  web are all linux examples.
[15:57] <deightm> Its not slight its stable lag
[15:57] <acicula> Roasted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization, and torrent/filesharing services ?
[15:57] <geekphreak> Roasted:  hello
[15:58] <deightm> win7 -> win7 on the same network and same machines and even same files always gave me ~950 kbyte/s for las half year
[15:58] <geekphreak> win 7 add more, its bloated, heh
[15:58] <Trek> deightm: so?  same difference, it sometimes does that, but its still good speeds
[15:58] <Dr4g> Dr_Willis, i forgot to mention this is a share on the network, not on this PC - i can access it fine with smb://mcs01/development/ but i want to mount it upon boot.
[15:58] <dan457> Roasted: remastersys works well
[15:58] <Dr4g> Dr_Willis, you following me ?
[15:58] <yehia> hello, i cant find this  ( System ã Administration ã Software Properties )   in my menu of administration - any help ?
[15:58] <deightm> but win7 -> ubuntu looks like if its limiting connection someway
[15:59] <vadim_> hi! How do I get a script run at startup before anybody is allowed to login? I tried to put it in /etc/rcS.d/, and that does delay the console login until it finishes, but kdm starts up before it's done anyway for some reason
[15:59] <deightm> yeah but why then people always say that ms sux, and linux rules
[15:59] <deightm> if it cannot even give comparable speed?
[15:59] <geekphreak> yehia: whatcha trying to do?
[15:59] <jpam> i have to backup my Ubuntu. áÝt is good to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox and after i will install my special softwares, can i backup with remastersys and when install this backup to other computers at school ? is it good or it is better to install directly on computers on school ?
[15:59] <acicula> vadim_: startup is not sequential anymore, check upstart
[15:59] <Trek> deightm: could be firewall restrictions or distance from computer, could be one of a million things
[15:59] <socram> hola
[16:00] <socram> HOLA, soy NUEVO en Ubuntu, necesitarûÙa alguna ayudita
[16:00] <deightm> really how to increase wifi connection speed
[16:00] <socram> pero no se si este es el mejor canal
[16:00] <yehia> geekphreak, iam trying  to enable the Universe repository.
[16:00] <acicula> !es
[16:00] <tonsofpcs> socram: #ubuntu-es
[16:00] <deightm> when it comes to 10gb file its huge difference between 950 and 500 kbytes/s
[16:00] <geekphreak> yehia:  ok do this
[16:00] <socram> oh shit, this is an english chat....
[16:00] <socram> jeje
[16:00] <ZTG|Homework> This channel has too many people.
[16:00] <deightm> what can i do to?
[16:00] <socram> Im spanish
[16:00] <FloodBot1> socram: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <socram> yes, too many people
[16:00] <tonsofpcs> socram: #ubuntu-es is a spanish chat
[16:00] <geekphreak> yehia: system>> administration>> software sources
[16:01] <socram> Thanks tonsofpcs
[16:01] <deightm> will the thing called madwifi help me?
[16:01] <yehia> geekphreak, ok - i did
[16:01] <socram> how can I enter ubuntu es
[16:01] <socram> ?
[16:01] <deightm> cmon answer please
[16:01] <yehia> geekphreak, and ?
[16:01] <geekphreak> you can add repos there
[16:01] <deightm> anyone
[16:01] <acicula> deightm: that question does not make sense
[16:02] <vadim_> acicula: figured it was something of the sort, hmm
[16:02] <acicula> deightm: madwifi are drivers for a certain type of card
[16:02] <deightm> how to increase wifi connection speed, if i know for sure that win7 gave me two times better speed
[16:02] <yehia> ok i will show you what iam doing geekphreak.
[16:02] <deightm> on the same line
[16:02] <ZTG|Homework> So......
[16:02] <acicula> deightm: as someone said it can be any number of things
[16:02] <ZTG|Homework> WHat is ubuntu.
[16:03] <yehia> geekphreak: over there -  i need to install this program which is campcaster .http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/648/
[16:03] <deightm> well iam sure its not connection problem, so the only reason for this is poor wifi driver implementation
[16:03] <yehia> geekphreak: i already downloaded it  and installed it
[16:03] <ZTG|Homework> What is Ubuntu?
[16:03] <acicula> deightm: poor wireless driver implementation(try a newer one), different tcp/ip defaults, different tx/rx settings by the driver or card even
[16:03] <deightm> so whats the best wifi driver for linux
[16:03] <geekphreak> yehia:  then?
[16:03] <yehia> geekphreak: but when i searched in my menu i didnt find it
[16:03] <geekphreak> yehia: ok try this man
[16:03] <geekphreak> yehia: press alt=f2
[16:03] <bastid_raZor> !ubuntu | ZTG|Homework
[16:03] <eeR> Hello
[16:03] <yehia> geekphreak: when i clicked Alt+F2
[16:03] <geekphreak> alt+f2
[16:04] <geekphreak> run comes ok
[16:04] <yehia> geekphreak i also couldnt find it
[16:04] <jpam> i have to backup my Ubuntu. áÝt is good to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox and after i will install my special softwares, can i backup with remastersys and when install this backup to other computers at school ? áÝ mean is is good to install to other computers from virtualbox backup (with remastersy) or it is better to install directly on computers on school ?
[16:04] <geekphreak> type gksu gedit
[16:04] <acicula> deightm: you cant swap out wireless drivers, each one is specific to your card
[16:04] <ZTG|Homework> Thanks!
[16:04] <geekphreak> press enter, when gedit open, open file /etc/apt/sources.lst
[16:04] <McL0VIN_> guys i need help with startx &
[16:04] <acicula> deightm: all you can do is try a newer revision
[16:04] <eeR> olaa qe sois ingleses
[16:04] <geekphreak> yehia: unchkthe unviveral repos
[16:04] <eeR> ?
[16:04] <erUSUL> !clone | jpam
[16:04] <deightm> also does anyone gave any idea why smb share auto unmounts itself after period of time
[16:04] <deightm> *have
[16:05] <vadim_> acicula: does upstart have any way to stop everything from progressing until a particular script is done?
[16:05] <zongo_> would it best practice to do a clean install with 10.04 or is an upgrade feasible from 9.10?
[16:05] <deightm> well isnt there any universal wifi driver
[16:05] <acicula> deightm: timeout values i suppose, how are you mounting a share?
[16:05] <jpam> ubottu: this takes time. áÝ have hundred pc to install it :(
[16:05] <nabzxz> how do I kill that fish from "free the fish" program?
[16:05] <acicula> vadim_: i dont know, it would make sense that it would, best look at the documentation
[16:05] <geekphreak> vadim_: would go for clean
[16:05] <deightm> i am mounting via "Connect to server..." under main menu
[16:05] <vadim_> geekphreak: clean?
[16:06] <jpam> i don't undertand it is not good to install form virtualbox backup ? :(
[16:06] <deightm> and i have no idea what terminal commands it executes
[16:06] <acicula> jpam: can you rephrase the question?
[16:06] <geekphreak> vadim_: just a personal opinion :)
[16:06] <erUSUL> nabzxz: you have to restart the panel or the session iirc
[16:06] <bastid_raZor> zongo_: that would be an opinion.. my choice is to fresh install. i'm sure others would suggest upgrading
[16:06] <yehia> geekphreak: i did all what you said here - but when i opend the gedit - i didnt find any thing - it was all empty
[16:06] <vadim_> geekphreak: what do you mean by that, I mean?
[16:06] <yehia> so what you want me to do while its empty geekphreak?
[16:07] <moetunes> I'm getting   checking whether the g++ linker (ld) supports shared libraries... no   error rebuilding vlc - what am I missing?
[16:07] <geekphreak> yehia: right, at first it is empty, you have to click file >> open on gedit, then browse to open /etc/apt/sources.lst
[16:07] <zongo_> I would tend to agree with you as 10.04 seems to be quite different from 9.10
[16:07] <Praveen> where do i go for the metacity IRC?
[16:07] <geekphreak> yehia: well thing is, it still not stable, why take a chance :p
[16:08] <acicula> deightm: i think it uses gvsd daemons to mount the share, alternatively you can try a traditional approach using mount
[16:08] <Trek> !away > zbenjamin
[16:08] <acicula> mount from the console
[16:08] <yehia> geekphreak: ok let me follow what you said
[16:08] <Guest24481> hdhjfgf
[16:08] <Guest24481> ,vhvghhmnvc
[16:08] <Guest24481> .m
[16:08] <Guest24481> ûÝkb
[16:08] <acicula> Guest24481:
[16:08] <Guest24481> nbbjm
[16:08] <FloodBot1> Guest24481: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <Guest24481> nv cc mmb ,
[16:08] <Pirate_Hunter> !ops
[16:08] <Trek> !op | Guest24481
[16:09] <Guest24481> nbjhgjûÏ
[16:09] <Guest24481> hola
[16:09] <Pirate_Hunter> im getting tired of this people on freenode, they must have something better to do
[16:09] <jpam> We have to choise : 1) áÝ can install ubuntu at home to virtualbox and i will do what i want to do on this ubuntu (like installing new softwares bla bla ...) . After all of them i can make a backup with remastersy and then with this backup i can install Ubuntu on the computers at schools. and the other option 2) i have to install the Ubuntu which downloaded from ubuntu.com all the pc at schools. Which is better to do ?
[16:09] <elky> Guest24481, please stop. this is an english channel.
[16:10] <tastyfish> Hey guys, I installed vloopback and webcamstudio to get my laptops cam to work with tinychat.com. I set tinychat to be allowed and tried to configure it. But webcamstudio didn't even work. Now I notice my pictures have lower quality on the cam also. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[16:10] <zbenjamin> Trek: i have a noisy away message?=
[16:10] <zbenjamin> oops
[16:10] <yehia> geekphreak - i cant find it when i did what you guided me to
[16:10] <yehia> geekphreak : i downloaded it on my desktop
[16:11] <yehia> geekphreak: but i cant see when i open it by gedit
[16:11] <joschi> jpam:  you most probably want some kind of automatic install. either with a remastered installation cd or over network
[16:11] <geekphreak1> got d/c
[16:11] <joschi> jpam: if you want to use a cd read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[16:11] <Trek> zbenjamin: it includes using away nick changes, discouraged on freenode in general
[16:11] <geekphreak1> yehia:  can u open terminal/
[16:11] <Houge> Hi, guies, I am new here, come from RPC
[16:11] <yehia> yes
[16:11] <yehia> i do
[16:12] <acicula> jpam: why not make an automated installer that needs no configuration and installs the system with all preselected settings and programs?
[16:12] <geekphreak1> open it plz
[16:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Houge, question, if any?
[16:12] <yehia> geekphreak1: i did
[16:12] <tastyfish> Noone knows?
[16:12] <geekphreak1> yehia:  type cd /etc/apt
[16:12] <acicula> jpam: should work better then cloning stuff like that
[16:12] <jpam> acicula:  NO! thank you but we don't need all of this configurations...
[16:12] <jpam> so i know how to make backyp and isnatll it.
[16:12] <jpam> my question is
[16:12] <yehia> geekphreak1 , i did
[16:12] <geekphreak1> then typee ls
[16:12] <Houge> No, just learning ang seeing
[16:12] <jpam> if it is good or not ?
[16:13] <yehia> geekphreak1: i did
[16:13] <joschi> jpam: you simply want preseed if I understand you correctly
[16:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Houge, welcome stick around, read, learn than help others when you can
[16:13] <joschi> jpam: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[16:13] <Houge> Pirate_Hunter: thank U
[16:14] <yehia> geekphreak1: i did what you said
[16:14] <geekphreak1> yehia: , when u type ls, see sources.lst?
[16:15] <yehia> geekphreak1: yes
[16:15] <geekphreak1> yehia: now type
[16:15] <geekphreak1> yehia:  sudo gedit sources.lst
[16:16] <yehia> geekphreak1: done ... and it opened another empty page
[16:16] <jpam> joschi: Please i don't know english well. áÝ am not asking how to do a ubuntu backup or how to install on other computers. Just im asking : if it is good to install the backup on other computers or not ? because if you use windows and if you install the backup (of yor computers) to other computer, the other computer will not work (or work bad) . understand ?
[16:16] <bradpitt> hi. where can i find preferences folder for a software? in home folder or usr/share ?
[16:16] <jpam> i don't need "how to..." links...
[16:16] <yehia> geekphreak1: empty gedit again i have got it
[16:16] <Pirate_Hunter> geekphreak1, are they remaking the souce.list otherwise that command needs the full path or to be open from the the correct directory
[16:16] <Baram> does anyone know of opensource forensic tools (like sluethkit) that supports ext4?
[16:17] <acicula> bradpitt: in /etc/ for system wide or .<programname> in a users home directory
[16:17] <acicula> at least thats roughly the convention
[16:17] <acicula> Baram: sleuthkit and a few others are carvers which are filesystem agnostic
[16:17] <erUSUL> !undelete | Baram
[16:17] <bradpitt> acicula, merci
[16:18] <Baram> erUSUL not looking to recover deleted data, trying to recover data from a failed disk
[16:18] <moetunes> jpam: ubuntu doesn't have activation so it would work - you can even put your hard drive in another comp and it will work - if it isn't totally diff
[16:19] <erUSUL> Baram: much of the same tools apply. you make a image of the dying disk with dd_rescue or gddrescue and work on that iamge with the tools on the wiki.
[16:19] <yehia> geekphreak1: hello ?
[16:19] <acicula> jpam: just dumping a backup of an ubuntu install on various computers is not really practical, it may work, but it will never work well
[16:19] <geekphreak> hmm
[16:19] <acicula> jpam: a backup as in a ghost etc
[16:19] <geekphreak> he is trying to add repos
[16:19] <jpam> acicula: why "it will never work well" ??? :(
[16:20] <geekphreak> yehia: you just installed system?
[16:20] <acicula> jpam: well ally our installs will expect the same hardware, so you can run into issue there if you have lots of different types of pcs, all the pcs will end up with the same names, etcetc
[16:21] <yehia> geekphreak1: no i installed it a month ago - and its updated also
[16:21] <acicula> jpam: there is no advantage of using a fixed backup over what was suggested here, the automated installer
[16:21] <geekphreak> hmm
[16:21] <jpam> acicula:  that is a big problem for us :( we don't have times to do that.. :( but i didn t know that the linux can not run on other computers if the copy all the hdd to other computers :(
[16:22] <ZTG|Homework> So...
[16:22] <acicula> jpam: thats not what i said, i said it will work, ie boot, you will run into all sorts of small problems
[16:22] <jpam> acicula:  fixed backup is very good but if it not working on other we are not going to do it :(
[16:22] <erUSUL> !automate | jpam
[16:22] <acicula> jpam: and dumping on a fixed backup or automated installer are not very different in time needed to set it up
[16:24] <fabioalmeida> help register
[16:24] <acicula> !nickserv > fabioalmeida
[16:24] <acicula> !register > fabioalmeida
[16:24] <jpam> hmm ok thank you.. i will search about automate ...
[16:25] <wuliang> hello
[16:25] <yehia> geekphreak1: are you there ?
[16:25] <wuliang> ye
[16:25] <databoy2k> Hey all - is anybody good with fixing a system with borked nvidia drivers?
[16:25] <geekphreak> yehia: yup
[16:25] <wuliang> i'm new here
[16:25] <acicula> databoy2k: how are they borked, how did you install them?
[16:26] <wuliang> where ara you from?
[16:26] <yehia> geekphreak: so any way to be done ?
[16:26] <andrey> ÅîÅ¡ÅýÅçî ÅýîÅçÅ¥...
[16:26] <wuliang> me,China
[16:26] <acicula> !ru
[16:26] <himik> Å¢îÅ¡ÅýÅçî Å¢îÅ¡ÅýÅçî
[16:26] <erUSUL> !cn
[16:26] <wuliang> what
[16:26] <geekphreak> yehia: not i know off sorry :)
[16:26] <databoy2k> acicula: I downloaded the script from Nvidia's site, stopped GDM, and ran the install. I suspect it isn't writing my xorg.conf file correctly, and it overwrote the backup, so I have no idea what my old settings were
[16:26] <wuliang> ?
[16:26] <andrey> ÅÂîî Åçîî îîîîÅ¤Å¡Åç Åçîîî)))
[16:27] <Templer> hi there i have a dual boot of ubuntu 9.10 and vista and i want to stop grup listing all the kernel versions each time it updates and make vista default for my mother when she dual boots is there a handy way to do this??
[16:27] <KarmaJones> what is the location of the trash folder
[16:27] <erUSUL> !trash
[16:27] <databoy2k> Biggest issue: I'm stuck at 640x480, meaning I can't see jack all on my screen
[16:27] <KarmaJones> thanks!
[16:27] <yehia> any body can help me  how to install this program please     http://www.campware.org/en/camp/campcaster_news/648/
[16:27] <geekphreak> databoy2k:  nvidia-uninstaller
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> databoy2k:  when i use the nvidia drivers.. i dont even need an xorg.conf  try renaming it (or see if theres backups in /etc) so you dont have one. and restart the X server
[16:28] <wuliang> where are you all
[16:28] <wuliang> ?
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> wuliang:  this is a world wide channel.
[16:28] <wuliang> and where am I
[16:28] <geekphreak> databoy2k: manf. site script, comes with  uninstall command >> nvidia-uninstaller
[16:28] <costre> yehia, It's really straight forward .. choose the newbie method
[16:28] <wuliang> oh thanks
[16:28] <databoy2k> GeekPhreak: If I burn the nvidia drivers like that, what am I left with?
[16:28] <nabzxz> how do I kill that fish from "free the fish" program?
[16:29] <yehia> coster: i dont know what is it
[16:29] <acicula> nabzxz: kill the gnome-panel
[16:29]  * Dr_Willis wonders what 'free the fish' program
[16:29] <geekphreak> databoy2k: so nothing there atm?
[16:29] <acicula> Dr_Willis: alt f2
[16:29] <acicula> Dr_Willis: type free the fish
[16:29] <acicula> observe.
[16:29] <costre> yehia, It clearly says: "If you have an Ubuntu or Debian system, and you are a newbie to Linux, just download and install the Debian packages"
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> err.. 'free' is a command to show memory..
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> so 'free the fish' shows my ram used.
[16:30] <acicula> Dr_Willis: ow yee of little faith
[16:30] <erUSUL> yehia: http://code.campware.org/manuals/campcaster/1.4/index.php?id=126
[16:30] <acicula> Dr_Willis: try it ;)
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> acicula:  it shows my ram usssage.. as i just said.
[16:30] <yehia> this is what i have done coster ,   but they also mentioned if  its not working then i need to enable the the Universe repository.
[16:30] <commander_> just got 10.4...does anyone know if it could sync w/Blackberry
[16:30] <acicula> Dr_Willis: in gnome , via alt F2 ?
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> Im in kde.
[16:31] <acicula> yeah then it doesnt work
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> nabzxz, i had to log out to stop this "easter egg"
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> acicula:  so you mean to sayits an 'easter egg' in gnome?
[16:31] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, it's an easter egg in gnome only
[16:31] <erUSUL> yehia: or just dwonload the deb freom here and installthem http://sourceforge.net/projects/campcaster/files/
[16:31] <Pici> nabzxz: killall gnome-panel should get rid of it.
[16:31]  * Dr_Willis eats all his easter eggs
[16:31] <acicula> yeh
[16:31] <costre> yehia, System -> administration -> software sources
[16:32] <acicula> there's a bunch of them
[16:32] <acicula> apt-get moo
[16:32] <acicula> and erm sl
[16:33] <moetunes> I'm getting   checking whether the g++ linker (ld) supports shared libraries... no   error rebuilding vlc - what am I missing?
[16:34] <acicula> moetunes: is g++ and such installed?
[16:34] <Noble> Are there any performance gain in the netbook remix kernel on Atom system?
[16:34] <moetunes> acicula: yep - with build-essential
[16:34] <databoy2k> GeekPhreak: I'm back... and still no good resolution
[16:34] <geekphreak> still  640 hmm?
[16:34] <yehia> erUSUL : i did what you guided me for and i think i dont know how to type the command of installation
[16:35] <yehia> erUSUL :  can you give me the command to install it
[16:35] <geekphreak> databoy2k: when u went to install nvidia driver, u did change run level right?
[16:35] <databoy2k> yup
[16:35] <databoy2k> to an executable, right?
[16:35] <acicula> moetunes: probably need some more libs then just build-essential
[16:35] <erUSUL> yehia: you added the repositorie? if so you have to change dapper to karmic in the line given ...
[16:35] <geekphreak> nno
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> Noble:  theres proberly a few tweaks.. but ive not really noticed anything major.
[16:35] <moetunes> databoy2k: checking the log might be good -   cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[16:35] <yehia> erUSUL : then tell me
[16:36] <Noble> Dr_Willis: I see, so there is no use to install that if I dislike the netbook UI?
[16:36] <yehia> erUSUL : i dont know what to do with all this - iam very new and i want only to finish this program
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> Noble:  proberly not.
[16:37] <moetunes> acicula: can't find which tho - it normally spits out which are missing - I get nothing like that - I'm guessing the compiler was built without something maybe
[16:37] <erUSUL> yehia: the easest way is to go here http://sourceforge.net/projects/campcaster/files
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> Noble:  i normally use the UNR disk anyway on my netbook. :)
[16:37] <costre> erUSUL, If it's a .deb, you should only have to double click it, pretty much
[16:37] <costre> yehia, *
[16:38] <erUSUL> yehia: dwonload the three deb files listed campcaster-libs_1.4.0-3beta3_i386.deb campcaster-studio_1.4.0-3beta3_i386.deb and campcaster-station_1.4.0-3beta3_i386.deb and install them by double clickin in them
[16:38] <acicula> moetunes: well it says the linker does not support dynamic libs, which seems unlikely
[16:38] <erUSUL> yehia: install firs the one that says libs. (double clickng in it once downloaded)
[16:39] <moetunes> acicula: but it can't get past that - no mention of anything missing
[16:39] <acicula> moetunes: have a look in the readme for versions/required software, or check what the configure script is actually checkking?
[16:39] <moetunes> acicula: the next line is   checking dynamic linker characteristics... no
[16:40] <epaphus> Hello all. I installed amd64 with minimal cd.. and now i cannot manage the eth0 in the network-manager-gnome. It says under wired network "device not managed" how can i fix that???
[16:40] <rsquare> Anybody know how to take an inverse logarithm in gcalctool?
[16:40] <gregg> I would like to run a command by clicking an icon on the desktop - it needs to prompt me for a password (it's sudo mount blabla... to make life easier for my girlfriend) - any ideas?
[16:40] <satellite> good morning
[16:40] <ARishi> Whats the difference in installing chromium-browser package instead of downloading the google chrome dev branch ?
[16:41] <acicula> moetunes: what if you give it the exact path to ld?
[16:41] <ARishi> gregg, I think gksudo
[16:41] <gregg> yeah that's what i was thinking - can it be so easy? lol
[16:42] <_4crickj_> Hi - does anyone know how to fix the UbuntuOne "Capabilities Mismatch" error?  My packages are all fully up to date.
[16:42] <ARishi> gregg, It actually is, just tried using that to mount a partition
[16:42] <researcher1> I have an application installed on one PC .How can I carry the installation for ready use on a different PC?
[16:42] <gregg> ARishi: thanks :)
[16:42] <Wavesonics> my notification doesn't clear when it's pressed, is that normal?
[16:42] <llutz> gregg: if you want her to mount a filesystem, why don't you just add "users" to mount-options in /etc/fstab?
[16:42] <ARishi> gregg, Welcome :)
[16:43] <moetunes> acicula: how do I feed that to ./configure?
[16:43] <acicula> researcher1: package it you mean?
[16:43] <acicula> moetunes: ./configure --help ;)
[16:43] <moetunes> k
[16:43] <gregg> llutz: it's a remote partition that isn't always there, and the connection is over wireless - had a MILLION problems doing ths with fstab
[16:43] <jacob_> waz up room
[16:43] <acicula> moetunes: can you pastebin the configure script, also any reason for compiling from source as opposed to debs?
[16:44] <acicula> err i mean the output from the configure script
[16:44] <geekphreak> gregg: use noauto option, so it dont auto mount
[16:44] <Guest87722> cool
[16:44] <researcher1> acicula: I have installed it using Internet. the other PC where I want this installation to work don't have Internet connection.
[16:44] <nikolaj_basher> I can't install ubuntu server with my USB STICK, because it will seek for a cdrom device and then the installation stops, someone who can help?
[16:44] <gregg> geekphreak: how would i mount it then when i need it?
[16:44] <vvv3> moetunes: I tried a lot of posibilities, but haven't has any luck
[16:44] <llutz> gregg: i don't see how remote/wifi etc.pp are related to that?
[16:44] <geekphreak> gregg:  mount command :)
[16:44] <costre> nikolaj_basher, Have you checke dthe boot order in bios?
[16:45] <Am1ne> researcher1, it gonna be difficult.. because you will encounter dependencies problems
[16:45] <gregg> llutz: they kind of are - using fstab prevented me from ever shutting my laptop down - problem turned out to be cifs over wifi, someting about my connection
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj_basher:   yow did you  make the usb stick? i seem to recall the server edition did not properly work with the usb-disk-creator tool or unetbootin
[16:46] <vvv3> is there any magic recipe to configure a decent resolution , having a VIA video driver ?
[16:46] <erUSUL> !fixres
[16:46] <vvv3> I only get 800x600
[16:46] <pingvinqq> hi .. anybody knows a repo with many programs in?:)
[16:47] <nikolaj_basher> Dr_Willis, yes can I do something to avoid that?
[16:47] <pingvinqq> just give me a link:D
[16:47] <llutz> gregg: there is no difference in cifs over wifi or wired
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj_basher:  you could try making a grub2 usb stick that boots  the iso file.. but im not sure that would work either.
[16:47] <nikolaj_basher> Dr_Willis, my problem is that I don't have a cdrom in my notebook
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj_basher:  why  do you want  the server install in a notebook anyway?
[16:48] <pingvinqq> hi .. anybody know a irc channel for linux?:)
[16:48] <pingvinqq> not ubuntu but linux
[16:48] <Am1ne> pingvinqq, ##linux ?
[16:48] <Am1ne> :P
[16:48] <DaZ> pingvinqq: ##linux
[16:48] <nikolaj_basher> Dr_Willis, because I have a little experiment to try :D
[16:48] <llutz> ##linux pingvinqq
[16:48] <pingvinqq> yeah i know, but a server for linux?:)
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> nikolaj_basher:  good luck then.  perhaps the forums may have an answer
[16:49] <costre> notebooks are underrated as servers. Built in monitor, mouse and keyboard, takes up little room, built in UPS ....
[16:49] <Am1ne> pingvinqq, google it "Linux irc channels"
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> the server install uses a kernel by default that  i though often has issues with non-server-type machines.
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> I could be wrong :)
[16:49] <acicula> costre: laptops are not built for running 24/7 at full burn
[16:49] <pingvinqq> Am1ne: yeah but i maybe think anybody here knows it :P
[16:49] <vvv3> erUSUL: I recompiled the openchrome driver , I have running the latest one. But it refuses to accept a 1024x768
[16:49] <acicula> costre: wear/tear/heat will quickly degrade it
[16:49] <nikolaj_basher> Dr_Willis, thanks made! I'll try
[16:50] <costre> acicula, Well, I have had a netbook in my closet running for 18 months with zero downtime. They're also cheap, so IF it breaks down, I can get a new one for like 200$
[16:51] <databoy2k> hey all i was working with someone trying to get my nvidia drivers working... sadly i'm still having no luck...
[16:51] <acicula> costre: thats nice
[16:52] <databoy2k> anybody here decent with the nvidia drivers?
[16:52] <geekphreak> hmm
[16:53] <alfon> ehh
[16:53] <jyraia> i need some help in Openoffice i had some files in Word 2007 Format, this files had forms, but when i open this files in openoffice, everythings gets disordered and bigger
[16:53] <pingvinqq> i cant find any irc linux servers !!!
[16:53] <jrib> !nvidia > databoy2k
[16:53] <meanburrito920> I'm trying to get a list of all the .go files in my directory. I tried to use 'find . | grep .go', but this finds directories also, such as ./godata
[16:53] <jrib> pingvinqq: you're on one now
[16:53] <alfon> si
[16:53] <alfon> jcijjiûÏ
[16:53] <alfon> soko
[16:53] <alfon> sok
[16:53] <alfon> sko
[16:53] <FloodBot1> alfon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <alfon> ko
[16:53] <llutz> pingvinqq: /msg alis list *linux*
[16:53] <pingvinqq> jrib: yeah but not ubuntu but LINUX !:)
[16:53] <jrib> meanburrito920: find -name '*.go' -type f
[16:53] <erUSUL> meanburrito920: find . -type f -name '*.go'
[16:53] <og01> im getting "Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming." when trying to install packages using apt-get
[16:53] <meanburrito920> thanks :)
[16:54] <jrib> pingvinqq: /join ##linux  .  You're on freenode now
[16:54] <pingvinqq> thx :)
[16:55] <pingvinqq> its works i think :D
[16:56] <pingvinqq> jrib: whats the difference between freenode and just ubuntu :P
[16:56] <Trek> !ot | pingvinqq
[16:56] <og01> whats the graphical update manager command called?
[16:56] <jrib> pingvinqq: freenode is an irc network, ubuntu is a linux distribution.  But irc.ubuntu.com is just an alias for freenode
[16:57] <patholio> og01 : synaptic
[16:57] <Roasted> Is there any quick way to "refresh" my network list for wireless networks in the area? I find that network manager is VERY slow at presenting new wireless networks. I have to disable wireless then re-enable it for it to pick up any new networks unless I don't mind waiting for 10 minutes. What's up with this?
[16:57] <kazakh> hi
[16:57] <jbwiv> guys, I screwed up and forgot to format /home on a Jaunty install. I want to set up ecrypt on the home directory for a user. Is there a  way to do this after the fact?
[16:58] <erUSUL> Roasted: try with ô¨ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan ô£
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  thats odd.. i find it much faster here at rescanning then windows.
[16:58] <calum> Roasted: Are you using the normal network manager?
[16:58] <kazakh> anybody here?
[16:58] <kazakh> i need help
[16:58] <Trek> !ask | kazakh
[16:58] <Roasted> calum, yes. Dr_Willis I have two E5500 laptops here. Ubuntu 9.10 on one, XP Pro SP3 on the other. The XP laptop picks up new networks fine on the fly. For me on Ubuntu, I have to disable wireless then re-enable for Ubuntu to pick it up.
[16:59] <bruso-ko> can Ubuntu 9.10 be booted off of a legacy grub? any tips?
[16:59] <Trek> Roasted: is it a Dell?
[16:59] <patholio> og01 sorry its update-manager :)
[16:59] <enjo451> I just want to make sure I'm doing this right... what's the correct command line for upgrading from 9.04 -> 9.10 ?
[16:59] <calum> Roasted: Try installing wcid network manager from the repos, its quick to refresh and simple
[16:59] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, now, I do find Ubuntu is quicker to find SAVED SSID's and connect to them. But there's 3 wifi networks we have here at work and I could only pick up 2, despite all 3 being in range. Once I disabled/re-enabled NM it was fine.
[16:59] <og01> hmm synaptic isnt showing any upgrades i think, though i havnt really used it before. i've used apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and its not really upgraded anything
[16:59] <researcher1> how do I know if a computer  is  a Ubuntu server or a desktop ?
[16:59] <Roasted> calum, already tried it. wasn't overly impressed. and the semi dead development of it right now isnt that appealing.
[16:59] <Roasted> Trek, yes, latitude E5500s. both of them
[16:59] <Trek> researcher1: do you have a graphical interface, or text-only interface?
[16:59] <jbwiv> is there a way to setup up ecryptfs on home directories after jaunty is already installed?
[17:00] <Trek> Roasted: you cnecked if its the wifi card(s)?
[17:00] <baba_b00ie> Researcher, if it's server you'll be booted to the command line, desktop starts either gnome or kde by default
[17:00] <Roasted> Trek, checked what about the wifi cards?
[17:00] <og01> maybe i should update to 9.10? is it recomended?
[17:00] <researcher1> Trek: It was text only then I installed ubuntu-desktop on it
[17:00] <calum> Roasted: hmm, strange. I had problems with the standard manager but wcid worked for me :(
[17:00] <Trek> Roasted: the wifi card in my dell latitude E6500 decided to die shortly after Ubu was installed, and I narrowed it down to the wifi card failing
[17:01] <pingvinqq> anybody know a big repo ?:)
[17:01] <Roasted> calum, I didnt have any problems with WICD. I just think it needs some more work to really be fully utilized as a network manager alternative.
[17:01] <dan457> i've given up on network manager.  wicd more stable here
[17:01] <Trek> Roasted: so check that out and try swapping the cards, seeing if it works
[17:01] <geekphreak> databoy2k: any luck?
[17:01] <Roasted> Trek, not sure... I mean, its a new laptop. both of them. *shrug*
[17:01] <pingvinqq> .. with many programs ??
[17:01] <Roasted> Trek, I dual boot with XP on this, and I haven't noticed the same issues here.
[17:01] <Roasted> Trek, and besides, I have Ubuntu on a toshiba laptop at home that does the same thing.
[17:01] <bruso-ko> Roasted, you right click on the NM icon and edit connections and see if the 3rd wifi on the list have is disabled
[17:01] <Trek> *shrugs* then it could be the card that's in that thing and the network manager.  Betcha its an Intel card or a Broadcom.
[17:02] <Trek> Roasted: ^^
[17:02] <Roasted> bruso-ko, it's not disabled. once I disable wifi and re-enable, it comes up fine. if it were disabled, it wouldnt show up at all.
[17:02] <Roasted> Trek, realteak card in the toshiba, broadocm in both dells.
[17:02] <Roasted> realtek*
[17:02] <Trek> Roasted: and Broadcom drivers are loaded correctly in the Dell one?
[17:02] <ZTG|Homework> GO UBUNTU!
[17:02] <Trek> ugh, realtek... *nukes it*
[17:02] <Trek> !ot | ZTG|Homework
[17:03] <ZTG|Homework> Okay.
[17:03] <Roasted> Trek, *shrug* I just installed them through the network manager.
[17:03] <calum> Realtek caused me some major issues, uggh
[17:03] <Roasted> my realtek works fine on the toshiba. but it displays the same behavior with NM as my broadcom does. Very unlikely its just a conicidence.
[17:03] <Roasted> I guess most people wouldnt see the same thing I do, since I bounce from wifi network to wifi network frequently here at work.
[17:03] <Trek> Roasted: might be the drivers it uses...
[17:03] <Trek> Roasted: that would be the case
[17:04] <calum> I'm switching wifi networks all the time
[17:04] <Trek> Roasted: i bounce between wireless access points but thats it
[17:04] <alwaizlern> Hey guys, i'm trying to install a new lock screen in Ubuntu but I don't know how to copy the downloaded lock screen (which I have on my desktop) to the usr/share/gnome-screensaver directory
[17:04] <Roasted> Trek, we're talking about two cards here. on tiop of that, I dual boot XP on this same laptop and XP doenst exhibit these same issues. Its definitely not a failing card, and unless the linux drivers for realtek and broadcom both suck, only then could that be a possibility.
[17:04] <_OskaR_> hi, i lost my eth0 device how do i get it back ....
[17:04] <Roasted> Trek, I have no issues going from access point to access point unless I go running down the hall quickly enough for the controller not to pass me off to the next AP properly.
[17:05] <Trek> Roasted: The broadcom and realtek drivers are compiled by reverse-engineering the closed source drivers that are for those cards
[17:05] <Roasted> It's just when I'm dealing with different SSID's.
[17:05] <Trek> Roasted, its possible they're just bad
[17:05] <Trek> i'll be back
[17:05] <erUSUL> Roasted: to install a b43 card just ô¨ sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter ô£ while connected by other means (wired) to internet. then reboot
[17:05] <Roasted> erUSUL, I have it installed...
[17:05] <alwaizlern> Can anybody help me?
[17:05] <og01> when upgrading to 9.10 should i expect anything to break? i've got an excrpyted system, and things like mythtv and i dont use gnome, i use xmonad...
[17:06] <_OskaR_> hi, i lost my eth0 device how do i get it back .... it was gone after a abrupt loss of power....
[17:06] <calum> Either this laptop or my router keeps disconnecting from the internet :( I have to be on wired connection
[17:06] <Roasted> og01, any PPA or added repos will be wiped, medibuntu included. that happens any time you upgrade Ubuntu, though.
[17:06] <Roasted> og01, so expect to install medibuntu and any 3rd party repos again.
[17:06] <harry-houdini1> anyone able to tell me if there is a windows RDC client (RDP version 7) compatible remote desktop software available I am unable to get sound in redesktop because it supports version 5 of the protocol
[17:06] <erUSUL> Roasted: still no wlan0 device listed in ô¨ iwconfig ô£ ?
[17:06] <erUSUL> harry-houdini1: tsclient ?
[17:06] <Roasted> erUSUL, my wifi works fine. Im just curious why I have trouble picking up SSID's at times.
[17:06] <erUSUL> Roasted: ok
[17:06] <Roasted> erUSUL, its like theres a 10 minute lag time before Network Manager shows new networks in the area.
[17:07] <og01> Roasted: ok thanks, it wont bork the encrypted filesystem though?
[17:07] <calum> Roasted: I have the same problem
[17:07] <_OskaR_> hi, i lost my eth0 device how do i get it back .... it was gone after a abrupt loss of power.... i get erorr no sutch device
[17:07] <erUSUL> _OskaR_: what NIC?
[17:07] <Roasted> og01, I wont lie to you, I have no experience with encrypted file ysstems. But I figured I'd relay to you what little I DO know about things not working after upgrades, which as far as I know is just the added repos.
[17:07] <_OskaR_> atheros
[17:07] <wiffit> I have a 64 bit amd why does the desktop installer want to install the i386 version of kubuntu?
[17:07] <Baram> erUSUL: clonezilla appears to have failed :(
[17:07] <starspot> hiya - I want to delete my windows and hp recovery partitions from this dual-boot system. Is it possible to extend my Ubuntu partion into the space I free up?
[17:07] <og01> Roasted: ok thanks, guess i'll have to find out
[17:07] <_OskaR_> it has been working long time ..
[17:07] <Roasted> og01, you could always use clonezilla to make a backup image of that install and throw it on an external hard drive, then do the upgrade. that way if it tanks after the upgrade, you can blast the image back.
[17:07] <erUSUL> _OskaR_: so is a wifi NIC ?
[17:07] <Roasted> calum, you do? with network manager?
[17:07] <harry-houdini1> erUSUL it seems as thought it only supports version 5 not version 7 unless there is a newer version somewhere
[17:08] <_OskaR_> lan
[17:08] <erUSUL> Baram: :(; then try anothe method ?
[17:08] <mad_baz_> anyone use wireless mouse ?
[17:08] <alwaizlern> How do I copy files into usr/share directory?
[17:08] <_OskaR_> wired eth0
[17:08] <bruso-ko> Roasted, iwlist wlan0 scan to see the list of detected wifi  if nm too slow to update its list
[17:08] <Roasted> mad_baz_, Im using a wireless mouse at the moment.
[17:08] <calum> Roasted: Yes, sometimes the ESSID of my network doesn't show up until reboot
[17:08] <researcher1> I had a Ubuntu server installed then I  ran 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ". Now Im getting GUI as expected.But will my server features be still working or will it be replaced by desktop features?
[17:08] <karl> Hope i in the right place, i am told this is where the brainy people hang out! I need to get my webcam to work its a genius 322 in using ubuntu 9.1. Can antone help?
[17:08] <og01> Roasted: good idea i think i'll just take the risk - if it goes sour then its a good excuse to do the whole system again
[17:08] <geekphreak> alwaizlern: sudo cp from to
[17:08] <Roasted> calum, I have problems if Im connected to 1 network and I hit suspend, then travel away from the network, and bring the laptop back to life. But I have that same issue in Windows too if I do that same exact thing.
[17:09] <mad_baz_> are they well supported Roasted ?
[17:09] <alwaizlern> but it won't copy a folder
[17:09] <llutz> alwaizlern: cp -r
[17:09] <Roasted> calum, but like I said, if I disable wireless in network manager and then re-enable it, it tends to update faster and work fine.
[17:09] <geekphreak> alwaizlern: if its folder then sudo cp -fr from to
[17:09] <_OskaR_> hi, i lost my eth0 device how do i get it back .... it was gone after a abrupt loss of power.... i get erorr no sutch device , eth0  , hw is atheros , it has worked for a long time...
[17:09] <alwaizlern> geekphreak, what does fr mean?
[17:09] <Roasted> mad_baz_, I've only used wireless logitech mice with Ubuntu, however every logitech I used HAS worked out of box.
[17:09] <geekphreak> recursive alwaizlern  do man cp
[17:09] <Roasted> og01, yeah, I love clonezilla. simple live CD and a relatively easyt o use menu. I use it a lot for backing up entire disks or just partitions.
[17:09] <bruso-ko> can Ubuntu 9.10 be booted off of a legacy grub? any tips?
[17:09] <calum> Roasted: I might give that a try. I'e reset my router countless times, but I have 70% signal here
[17:09] <llutz> alwaizlern: man cp
[17:10] <mad_baz_> ok was looking for a product name  ..thanks
[17:10] <remoteCTRL1> !iso
[17:10] <alwaizlern> geekphreak, so basically like: sudo cp -fr \home\usrname\stuff  \usr\share\gnome-screensaver  ?
[17:10] <geekphreak> right
[17:10] <jason201> can anyone tell me how to list the last 100 or so commands in terminal?
[17:10] <Baram> erUSUL: looking for one, problem is the disk is 2TB (only less than 40GB actually used) and I have nothing 2TB to try and move the whole thing over to
[17:10] <alwaizlern> thanks will try it:)
[17:10] <llutz> alwaizlern: /   not \
[17:10] <devian> so i actually went and purchased a license for this thing called polystyle back in the day when i used windows, it's a source code formatter, i'm wondering if there's a decent free equivalent on *nix? e.g. something that'll format (specifically PHP) code to say the allman bsd style or to the k&r style or to stroustrup
[17:10] <alwaizlern> thanks geekphreak & llutz
[17:10] <bruso-ko> jason201,   history command
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[17:10] <og01> Roasted: i guess though that clonezilla will likely struggle a little with an encrypted volume, and not be able to reduce it in size, instead creating a full size backup
[17:10] <Roasted> calum, yeah, try that... it works for me. I try to make it a habit to disconnect from wifi on ANY OS (not just ubuntu) before suspending, since it tends to screw things up when I bring it back to life. However, Ubuntu seems to handle it better as long as I manually disconnect/reconnect to new wifi network when I bring it back to life.
[17:10] <remoteCTRL1> !cue
[17:10] <jason201> excellent thanks
[17:10] <jrib> !away > I^llGetOverIt
[17:10] <dpic> how can i send audio through my mic from my computer?
[17:10] <geekphreak> np :)
[17:10] <og01> Roasted: as it will be unaware of freespace etc...
[17:11] <alwaizlern> geekphreak,  is it possible to delete fromt his directory?
[17:11] <calum> *Disconnects wired network*...
[17:11] <devian> dpic, that doesn't make sense
[17:11] <alwaizlern> geekphreak,  the usr/share directory
[17:11] <Roasted> og01, Its possible. I have no experience with encrypted file systems, though. Might want to google that with clonezilla prior ti giving it a shot...
[17:11] <geekphreak> alwaizlern: yes
[17:11] <devian> dpic, you don't send audio FROM your computer TO your mic
[17:11] <og01> Roasted: thanks for the help
[17:11] <alwaizlern> geekphreak, sudo rm ?
[17:11] <Roasted> og01, no problem. good luck!
[17:11] <devian> dpic, you can, but it won't do much. technically you can use headphones as a mic, but they don't work so well
[17:11] <geekphreak> alwaizlern: yes :)
[17:11] <erUSUL> Baram: yopu only have to move the 40 GiB ... make tar backups ? rsync it ?
[17:12] <alwaizlern> I tried sudo rm but it still says permission denied
[17:12] <dpic> devian: i want to listen to music, and make it go through a mic so that i  can broadcast it on tinychat, etc
[17:12] <Roasted> bruso-ko, I tried that command, but it says my card doesnt support scanning????
[17:12] <Baram> ok... this is odd, tried to boot into liveCD, it just sits there saying GRUB
[17:12] <geekphreak> alwaizlern: becarefull deleteing stuff outside $HOME
[17:12] <researcher1> is it possible to disable GUI then again make available through command line?
[17:12] <_OskaR_> hi, i lost my eth0 device how do i get it back .... it was gone after a abrupt loss of power.... no sutch device , eth0 ... it has worked for a long time.../etc/network/interfaces has auto eth0 and auto lo
[17:12] <lojack> Hello.  New to Ubuntu.  Anyone know if there is a repo with Gnome 3 packages for 9.04?  Apparently, my Google foo isn't working well.
[17:12] <bruso-ko> Roasted, use the correct wifi interface name, i used wlan0 as a sample
[17:13] <alwaizlern> geekphreak, I understand it can be risky but there are some files I copied that I need to remove but when I try the
[17:13] <geekphreak> researcher1: change run level?
[17:13] <Roasted> bruso-ko, it seems as if my wireless is listed as eth1 instead of wlan0 when I run ifconfig. when I run ifconfig I just have eth0 and eth1
[17:13] <alwaizlern> sudo rm command it still doesnt let me
[17:13] <Roasted> but even with eth1, same error.
[17:13] <fabio333> lojack>: there is no gnome 3 still
[17:13] <Roasted> bruso-ko, nevermind. gotta use sudo. :P
[17:13] <Baram> researcher1 drop to terminal and do "sudo service gdm stop"
[17:13] <researcher1> geekphreak:How to change runlevel?
[17:13] <geekphreak> alwaizlern: sudo rm -fr /folder/path
[17:13] <Baram> researcher1 sudo service gdm start turns it back on
[17:13] <alwaizlern> thank you
[17:13] <Roasted> alwaizlern, be careful with rm -rf!!!!!!
[17:14] <bruso-ko> once more..  can Ubuntu 9.10 be booted off of a legacy grub? any tips?  i failed so far
[17:14] <geekphreak> researcher1: telinit run_level_number
[17:14] <researcher1> Baram:thanks.that works
[17:14] <llutz> geekphreak: runlevels 2-5 are equal in ubuntu
[17:14] <erUSUL> !runlevels
[17:14] <geekphreak> llutz: true :(, i dont like it  :(
[17:14] <Baram> bruso-ko one of my machines (upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10) runs off grub1 just fine
[17:14] <lojack> fabio333: Thanks.  Gnome 2.8 perhaps?  Just looking for an update beyond 2.6
[17:15] <llutz> geekphreak: why do you recommend it then? it makes no sense at all
[17:15] <bruso-ko> Baram, whats your entry like on the legacy?  mine says it cannot find the stage15 when it faults at boot
 the lastest is 2.30 from lucid
[17:15] <onto> No sound (Analog headphones), karmic, 2.6.31-9-rt
[17:15] <tuntis> I have a Windows 7 install on my first hard disk and an Ubuntu 9.10 install on my second hard disk (this disk also has one NTFS partition). For one reason or another, I need to keep Windows's bootloader - how can I boot into Ubuntu from that?
[17:15] <Baram> bruso-ko what entry?
[17:15] <onto> I can hear the sound on the built-in speakers (Analog output) but none on the headphones
[17:15] <bruso-ko> Baram, new 9.10 dont have that stage15 in the /boot/grub  anymore
[17:16] <_OskaR_> hi, i lost my eth0 device how do i get it back .... is there a way to get ubuntu redetect it ?
[17:16] <xangua> tuntis: you can't
[17:16] <xangua> you need grub
[17:16] <lojack> fabio333: I said Gnome 3.  I meant Gnome 2.3.  My mistake.
[17:16] <bruso-ko> Baram, entries for 9.10 on your legacy grub?
[17:16] <Vigo> onto: That sounds like a hardware issue.
[17:16] <onto> Vigo: was working fine with debian
[17:16] <tuntis> xangua: Is it possible to install grub on the Ubuntu partition or something and chain that from Windows's bootloader?
[17:16] <bruso-ko> _OskaR_, what do you meant lost? not showing up when you do ifconfig?
[17:17] <Vigo> onto: Are you using the same repos?
[17:17] <Baram> bruso-ko you mean in menu.lst?
[17:17] <_OskaR_> device eth0 not found ..
[17:17] <bruso-ko> Baram, yes
[17:17] <onto> Vigo, what do you mean (sorry, new to ubuntu, linux in general)
[17:17] <onto> ?