[00:00] <Alpha-DOG> how to install the themes of emerald ?
[00:00] <Prez00> chelz, sudo ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[00:00] <chelz> Prez00: you might try sudo sh ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[00:00] <r0r41m4> are you crazy ?, people can do it anything without it
[00:00] <nishanth> hey i moved a .ogg file from desktop to /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[00:00] <nishanth> but i cant play it
[00:00] <nishanth> it has a cross on top of it
[00:00] <Typos_King> acicula:   may I hear from the advocates of the anti-su, their rationale, hehee, I mean..... I understand is caution.... but many advocates make it sound you'll turn into stone if you do, which is false
[00:01] <chelz> Prez00: have you installed all available ubuntu updates for your system?
[00:01] <zvacet> nishanth : opean that file with some player
[00:01] <Typos_King> no, I don't encourage it, but if needed, I do provide it, so long care is observed
[00:01] <Prez00> chelz, I always do
[00:01] <Prez00> chelz, up to date
[00:01] <nishanth> no it works when i open it on desktop
[00:01] <nishanth> but not when in the other folder
[00:01] <acicula> Typos_King: running via su or programs as root when you do not need to is an easy and quick way to hose a system if you do something wrong and is generally just not needed.
[00:01] <nishanth> it says i dont have permission
[00:01] <chelz> Typos_King: sudo is generally a much better way to do things, especially for everyday users
[00:02] <switch10_> nishanth: thats because it is in your root folder not /home
[00:02] <chelz> nishanth: in a terminal do   chmod 755 path/to/file.ogg
[00:02] <orhan> someone help me?
[00:02] <zvacet> nishanth : that file don´t belong where you put it  put it in music folder and open player and browse for it
[00:02] <chelz> nishanth: change path/to/file.ogg with your .ogg file
[00:02] <lars_bauer> chelz, no
[00:03] <Prez00> oh well, no AIR for me, wanted to try out the Zinio reader
[00:03] <Prez00> now AIR based
[00:03] <switch10_> nishanth: you are trying to use it as a system sound?
[00:03] <chelz> lars_bauer: what happens when you try to run it?
[00:03] <nishanth> yes
[00:03] <chelz> Prez00: you could try on the adobe air forums or w/e
[00:03] <orhan> :(
[00:03] <nishanth> i am trying to change my system login sound
[00:03] <Typos_King> acicula, chelz:   I know and I agree on that, but I also recognize on some cases may help things rather than ruin them
[00:03] <Prez00> chelz, I can't find one page on google that talks about AIR installation problem with FF, :-)
[00:03] <switch10_> nishanth: you need to chmod it than like chelz said
[00:04] <acicula> Typos_King: i cant imagine any case where it be benificial for a novice user to run nautilus as root
[00:04] <norbi905> A bit off topic, but I have read it in a forum somewhere where it went something along the lines of "If you don't know how to get rid of sudo and switch to root, then you should be root in the first place".  I'm sticking to that :)
[00:04] <chelz> Prez00: did you perhaps install your own fx or anything? or are you using the fx that came with ubuntu?
[00:04] <Prez00> chelz, fx from ubuntu
[00:04] <norbi905> *shouldn't
[00:04] <acicula> Typos_King: most programs are designed specifically so that you can do everything as a user without being forced to modify system files
[00:04] <orhan> :/ some one help me
[00:04] <Alpha-DOG> pls tell me someone how to install an emerald theme ?
[00:04] <Prez00> if I could download apps, I could install them with Air isntaller, but on FX it tries to download AIR before the actual app file
[00:04] <Typos_King> nishanth:    the file may be grayed out cuz of permissions
[00:05] <bigtom21485> can anyone help me diagnose my sound card?
[00:05] <r0r41m4> acicula: novice will left to be novice just learning how to use the super power of root
[00:05] <switch10_> nishanth: chmod 777 /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/file.ogg
[00:05] <Prez00> whoa! suddenly it worked!  Installed from tweetdeck page
[00:05] <acicula> r0r41m4: thats an opinion, which you are free to have, but stick to channel policy here
[00:05] <Prez00> I guess I had to reinstall with FF shutdown
[00:05] <chelz> !emerald | Alpha-DOG
[00:05] <orhan> i have a UNR user, how to chance old desktop ...
[00:06] <r0r41m4> where are the policies
[00:06] <Pokeruler> Latest Yahoo article: Google and Nintendo have joined forces to create a new party game for Wii.
[00:06] <nishanth> what is chmod 755?
[00:06] <Morrissey> it would be...
[00:06] <chelz> Prez00: here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/590961
[00:06] <chelz> Prez00: oh, alright then
[00:06] <Alpha-DOG> than how to change the theme of my ubuntu evry1 did that
[00:06] <Morrissey> permission to read write execute for user
[00:06] <r0r41m4> 755 xrw rw rw
[00:07] <orhan> PLS HELP ME!
[00:07] <lars_bauer> it works fine , i select a danish keyboard and exit with ok. Then nothing is changed even after boot
[00:07] <lars_bauer> chelz,
[00:08] <Anarchy7> how to kill a process : kill pid ?
[00:08] <Prez00> chelz, thanks!
[00:08] <acicula> Anarchy7: yup, or use a -9 switch if it refuses to die, but its nicer not too
[00:08] <lars_bauer> Anarchy7, kill -<sig> pid
[00:08] <bigtom21485> anyone wanna help fix a sound card that isnt putting anything out but thinks that it is
[00:08] <acicula> Anarchy7: man kill or man killall for some more help
[00:09] <djbeenie> newb question..which directory is my xorg.conf located at?
[00:09] <acicula> djbeenie: by default it doesnt exist
[00:09] <mouse> whereis xorg.conf
[00:09] <switch10_> djbeenie: /etc/x11
[00:09] <acicula> if it does /etc/X11/
[00:09] <chelz> lars_bauer: is this your own server or with a company?
[00:09] <SeaPhor> the "X" is capital
[00:09] <djbeenie> what do you mean it does not exist
[00:09] <switch10_> sorry
[00:09] <djbeenie> how is my computer getting display
[00:09] <Anarchy7> thanks guys
[00:10] <lars_bauer> ist my own virtualbox
[00:10] <acicula> djbeenie: the xorg.conf file is not required anymore for X, but can be used to set a configuration
[00:10] <bigtom21485> thanks for helping
[00:10] <acicula> it does actually exist on my install, but is empty
[00:10] <djbeenie> oh cool
[00:10] <lars_bauer> it is a turnkeylinux bb
[00:11] <chelz> lars_bauer: you might try installing it in virtualbox with a server cd since it will ask you to setup language stuff
[00:11] <djbeenie> I have a conky that keeps flashing..wanted to make sure dbe was in my xorg.conf
[00:11] <djbeenie> so what controls x them
[00:11] <acicula> autodetect afaik
[00:12] <acicula> djbeenie: you could try checking the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:14] <fwaokda> anyone know how i can convert rgba color value to hex ?
[00:14] <chelz> !kill | Anarchy7
[00:14] <jrib> fwaokda: google "rgb hex"?
[00:14] <djbeenie> fwaokda, there are a ton of tools if you search in google
[00:15] <Typos_King> fwaokda:    are  you needing that for CSS?
[00:15] <EdgEy> Not sure whether to ask this here or #winehq, but
[00:15] <EdgEy> Is it possible to install Wine without getting the fonts with it? I've tried uninstalling the extra packages like "symbol/tahoma free equivalent"
[00:15] <Typos_King> fwaokda:    I don't think the 'a' plays in Hex language, jus the 'rgb'
[00:16] <EdgEy> It changes the fonts on loads of webpages since they originally used something else when they weren't available
[00:16] <chelz> sprung: still there?
[00:16] <rww> Typos_King: It doesn't for most HTML/CSS related uses. There are times when #RRGGBBAA is used, though.
[00:16] <chelz> sprung: "After the base system installed, log in, and type "sudo tasksel" to select the system to install. "
[00:16] <rww> (in general)
[00:16] <chelz> sprung: tasksel allows you to install a range of common applications, as in even stuff like gnome for a desktop system
[00:17] <Typos_King> rww:   yeah, in css3  I think it uses an rgba() function though, no Hex
[00:17] <Typos_King> just like it has an rgb() too
[00:17] <acicula> EdgEy: packages are as a dependency you can get around but is cumbersome and errorprone, why do you need the package gone?
[00:18] <Alpha-DOG> how to open this system>preferences>compizconfig i really can't find in xubuntu 9.10
[00:18] <EdgEy> acicula, it changes the fonts on webpages, for example Ubuntu forums, Facebook, various others
[00:18] <chelz> sprung: one thing you might try to do is get a 9.10 Desktop livecd as a partition on your computer after the netinstall, boot to it, then install from it like a disc, so you can install from a real Desktop CD
[00:18] <fwaokda> Typos_King, here is an example of a rgba hex value: 0x7FFF0000   its a red color with some transparency
[00:18] <chelz> Alpha-DOG: you might need to install it
[00:18] <EdgEy> I'm guessing they couldn't find one before and went to a default of some kind
[00:18] <Alpha-DOG> how chelz :S
[00:18] <acicula> EdgEy: more like wine or the programs run within it dont like the default ones that came with ubuntu
[00:19] <EdgEy> acicula, no I'm talking Firefox run in Ubuntu native
[00:19] <Typos_King> fwaokda:    .... I see, is not for webdev then :)
[00:19] <chelz> Alpha-DOG: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:19] <norbi905> Alpha-DOG I believe it doesn't come by default with Ubuntu 9.10.  I remember having to install it.
[00:19] <EdgEy> I can take a screenshot with wine installed / uninstalled if that helps
[00:19] <acicula> EdgEy: yeah i understand that, i meant why the dependencies are there
[00:19] <EdgEy> Ah
[00:21] <brand0n> anyone know why a folder im samba sharing on my windows drive unshares upon reboot? i set the drive for automount and it doesnt seem to help
[00:23] <lubse> what is the cmd to upload a file via ssh?
[00:23] <acicula> lubse: scp or sftp
[00:23] <sprung> brand0n, --> #samba
[00:24] <delx> Hey
[00:25] <Miqueloti> alguem que fale portugues ai pode me ajudar?
[00:25] <jrib> !pt | Miqueloti
[00:25] <delx> I read and already got to work a postfix + cyris-sasld + courier-imap + mysql tutorial, but I'm asking myself why I need cyrus-sasld for that? Can't I specify the mysql configruation for both postfix and courier-imap?
[00:25] <SeaPhor> lubse, scp username@remote.IP.Address:/path/to/dir/filename local/destination/path/filename  OR reverse the source to destination for local-to-remote
[00:26] <brand0n> anyone know why a folder im samba sharing on my windows drive unshares upon reboot? i set the drive for automount and it doesnt seem to help
[00:27] <lubse> ah
[00:27] <lubse> and fore file names with spaces?
[00:27] <lubse> add "" ?
[00:28] <chelz> brand0n: set it for automount how? in fstab?
[00:28] <Alpha-DOG> chelz how u do answering all those questions and any of them is wrong
[00:28] <chelz> lubse: backslash before the space
[00:28] <chelz> !terminal | lubse
[00:28] <sammy> so I see a note on the community docs that says ca-certificates I want to add globally go into /usr/share/ca-certificates. what is /usr/local/share/ca-certificates for, then?
[00:29] <acicula> sammy: /usr/local/ is typically for custom system wide installations outside the scope of the system package managers
[00:29] <chelz> Alpha-DOG: i'm not sure what you mean but that sounds offtopic. please keep offtopic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:29] <acicula> sammy: or historically /usr could be distributed why /usr/local was always a local fs
[00:29] <millertimek1a2m3> can someone tell me how to connect to "#c++ channel on irc.gnome.org"
[00:29] <chelz> sammy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[00:30] <alexalex> hi, how do I change uin to 1001 as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9057327
[00:30] <Alpha-DOG> thanks for helping me a lot with that compiz thing :P i just installed ubuntu and it's cool for me
[00:30] <chelz> millertimek1a2m3: what irc client are you using?
[00:30] <millertimek1a2m3> xchat
[00:30] <chelz> millertimek1a2m3: gnome xchat or regular xchat?
[00:30] <crogeek> hi to all
[00:30] <alexalex> actually here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/494394 sorry
[00:30] <millertimek1a2m3> regular xchat
[00:31] <chelz> !hi | crogeek
[00:31] <crogeek> I have couple of questions
[00:31] <crogeek> first I have radeon 9600 pro AGP card on my p4 PC and I cannot run 3d effects, I am using regular drivers from kernel of Ubuntu
[00:31] <crogeek> secondly, why software reposierties are not updated to the end?
[00:31] <crogeek> I saw latest Firefox is 3.5.8 in rep.
[00:32] <chelz> millertimek1a2m3: go to XChat in the top left, go to New, click on "Server Tab...". then in that tab type "/server irc.gnome.org" (without the quotes) then "/join #c++" (without the quotes)
[00:32] <millertimek1a2m3> crogeek: because often there are prereleases that aren't ready for the public
[00:32] <millertimek1a2m3> crogeek, a new feature might be added by one person, but it might be buggy.
[00:33] <Alpha-DOG> can u make a botnet in linux ?
[00:33] <crogeek> can someone explain me how to download latest ATI driver for my graph. card and run 3d effects, I know it should work, in 9.04 on my radeon 9600 that worked well
[00:33] <sammy> chelz: thanks, that's an interesting link. I didn't know that historically you could push /usr to a cloned machine and keep local changes in /usr/local .. apparently karmic and lucid support local ca-certificates in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates
[00:33] <chelz> millertimek1a2m3: to make it faster to join places like that, you can use the XChat Network List. found in the same XChat menu in the upper left as before, by clicking on "Network List"
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> crogeek, Ubuntu uses a "Timed based" release scheme vs a "rolling updates" so versions of software are not updated during a release, you have to wait for the next version of Ubuntu to get new software
[00:33] <sprung> Alpha-DOG, No, you cannot make a botnet in linux. It's impossible.
[00:33] <crogeek> ZykoticK9, : I am using latest 9.10
[00:33] <sprung> I'm sure everybody agrees with me
[00:33] <BluesKaj> !ati | crogeek
[00:33] <crogeek> and I saw that Firefox isn't updated, even in software rep. I didn't see any new ver
[00:33] <Alpha-DOG> thought so couse u have no tools :)
[00:33] <chelz> Alpha-DOG: there are computing clusters, if that's what you mean. but botnets are illegal and offtopic.
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> crogeek, yes, but until you update to Lucid - you wan't see Firefox 3.6 in the repo
[00:34] <ZykoticK9> s/wan't/won't
[00:34] <chelz> crogeek: when there are updates the update manager should prompt you if nothing was changed in the notification settings. otherwise all is well.
[00:34] <crogeek> ZykoticK9, : ah I see, this depends of version of Ubuntu? - So basically 3.6.2 isn't supported by 9.10 of ubuntu?
[00:34] <scott34> random question (pun). how would i go about generating a meg of random data using /dev/random. i know i can pipe it to a file, but how to stop it after a certain point?
[00:34] <sprung> Alpha-DOG,  In other words, don't continue talking about it, and not only that but nobody likes botnets, so nobody is going to help you anyway.
[00:34] <ZykoticK9> crogeek, you can add PPAs to get new software
[00:34] <Alpha-DOG> ok one more question  // in internet u have a lot of shell for linux how to use them on linux ??
[00:35] <bigtom21485> anyone know what the bst mp3 player to have winth linux is
[00:35] <r0r41m4> BASH
[00:35] <randomusr> bash
[00:35] <Typos_King> scott32:    I'd think using 'dd' and bs=1024 count=1
[00:35] <crogeek> chelz, : that's okay, but as I see 3.5.8 has major security flaws and I don't wanna to have non-updated version of FF
[00:35] <Alpha-DOG> yeah i know botnets are illegal but i was just asking
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> !best > bigtom21485
[00:35] <sprung> Alpha-DOG,  leave your lamer script kiddie stuff at the door
[00:35] <zzzZoltan> chelz: still here?
[00:36] <Zenker> bigtom21485 i prefer boxee but its more than just a mp3 player
[00:36] <chelz> zzzZoltan: yep
[00:36] <scott34> Typos_King: thanks! thats what i was looking for
[00:36] <zzzZoltan> chelz: nice, I solved it! :D
[00:36] <bigtom21485> zenkerL how is it with syncing with ipods?
[00:36] <Typos_King> scott32:    though 1024 is in bytes, that'd be a Kbs, and you want a Mbs :)
[00:36] <chelz> crogeek: ubuntu patches security flows and releases updates just for ubuntupackages
[00:36] <sprung> Alpha-DOG, Why would we possibly want to help you ruin the internet a little bit more?
[00:36] <Solar_Flare> I need some help with a library i compiled. g++ cant find it, but i compiled and installed it with "sudo make install"
[00:36] <bigtom21485> zenker: how is it with syncing with ipods
[00:36] <Zenker> bigtom21485 idk but im sure its pretty good at it
[00:36] <Alpha-DOG> i was just asking i am not a pro sorry if that was bad i have 1 days using linux and i like it
[00:36] <chelz> crogeek: also flaws
[00:36] <crogeek> chelz, : even in Firefox ?
[00:36] <chelz> crogeek: yes
[00:37] <zzzZoltan> chelz: a bit tricky. but the links you gave helped. I zeroed all superblocks. recreated the array with --assume-clean and resync'd it. and all data's there :D :D
[00:37] <randomusr> hahaha, is that dude for real?
[00:37] <Zenker> bigtom21485 although it is for linux it is also for windows and is a mainstream program
[00:37] <chelz> crogeek: all packages that come installed with ubuntu get all necessary security patches
[00:37] <sprung> Alpha-DOG, You started using linux so you could set up botnets and abuse people.
[00:37] <ZykoticK9> crogeek, if there is a security issue, packages get updated
[00:37] <chelz> zzzZoltan: good to hear. did the new drive get added okay?
[00:37] <crogeek> chelz, : so this means (from my personal point of view) that Ubuntu dev. team can patch Firefox flaws even on outdated version on FF?
[00:37] <bigtom21485> Zenker: that's great, ill give it a shot...did u isntall from a ppa, or the repo?
[00:37] <crogeek> hm - well I was very long time on WinNT platform, so I don't know these rules
[00:37] <Alpha-DOG> no man i just like linux haven't use botnets never just read about what they can do and saw videos on youtube that's all
[00:37] <zzzZoltan> chelz: everything seems to be up to date and sync'ed i'm going to do a --update=resync tomorrow just to verify but looks OK for now
[00:37] <crogeek> but I found on google how to install 3.6.2 on 9.10-U
[00:37] <Zenker> bigtom21485 i dl'd the deb from boxee.com or whatever the site was.
[00:37] <chelz> crogeek: yep. that's how 'fixed release' linux distributions work. they pick a version of some software and stick with it for the lifetime of the version.
[00:38] <bigtom21485> zenker: thanks :-)
[00:38] <chelz> zzzZoltan: ah alright, good to hear
[00:38] <randomusr> Alpha-Dog, you could set up a botnet in linux with the right tools and understanding, but you kind of gave yourself away to the world
[00:38] <zzzZoltan> chelz: thanks again!
[00:38] <Bleach> hi
[00:38] <zzzZoltan> bye everybody
[00:38] <bigtom21485> zenker: ive tried several programs to no avail, i pretty much ahd given up and was actually thinking about buying a refurb powerbook
[00:38] <randomusr> why would anyone want to do that anyway
[00:38] <chelz> crogeek: for your ati, did you follow this yet?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:38] <sprung> Alpha-DOG, Just find the button on your keyboard that says l33t h4x0r and go hack the gibson, zerocool
[00:38] <jorge_> i cant change my resolution from 800x600 to anything higher using panasonic 50 inch hd tv
[00:39] <randomusr> sprung, LMFAO
[00:39] <Zenker> bigtom21485 personally i dont sync, i just plug it in and dragn drop but i dont have an "ipod" its a colby orsmthin
[00:39] <chelz> ok ok, enough offtopic. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:39] <randomusr> Angelina was hott-uh in that movie
[00:39] <LawG> Hack the planet!!
[00:39] <bigtom21485> zenker: is it sync capable?
[00:39] <crogeek> chelz, : I will try to fix that, because I cannot get to run 3d effects on my Ubuntu with radeon 9600 also Adobe's Flash is running very slow on Streaming flash based web sites, I disabled hardware acceleration and that is now working well, but some lags are there still :(
[00:39] <Alpha-DOG> no better nasa i can't make like those stuff they are simple :D ( JOKE ) :P
[00:40] <kmm> how do u make mdadm startup automatically every time u boot ubuntu?
[00:40] <Zenker> bigtom21485 yes but the prog it comes with only works in windows, and i havent tried to sync in ubuntu
[00:40] <randomusr> Alpha-Dog, please make like a fly and shoe
[00:40] <r0r41m4> after install firefox 3.6 do a simbolic link to firefox to /usr/bin
[00:40] <chelz> kmm: you might find your answer here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:41] <Zenker> bigtom21485 there is another prog that is in the repos called moovidea, but idk if it supports sync or not
[00:41] <Typos_King> kmm:    what's mdadm?
[00:41] <chelz> randomusr: after you type the first few letters of an irc nickname, you can hit the tab key to autocomplete the nick. similar to tab autocompletion in the terminal.
[00:41] <chelz> Typos_King: it's a RAID thing
[00:41] <randomusr> chelz, thanx
[00:41] <Typos_King> ohh
[00:41] <chelz> Typos_King: to learn more about it you can read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[00:42] <Alpha-DOG> ok sorry i was typing bored questions but everyone or some of you knows dota-allstars game i searched a bit is a version for linux ?
[00:42] <Typos_King> kmm:    I'd assume you can 'add' it to your 'boot services' if  isn't already there, then you can just enable it
[00:42] <netech> so, I installed the vim-runtime package so that I could try 'vimtutor'; however, when I run the newly installed vimtutor, it opens a blank file in the /tmp directory instead of the tutorial.
[00:42] <chelz> Alpha-DOG: some games and programs for Microsoft Windows can be run on Ubuntu with the help of a program called Wine
[00:42] <chelz> !wine | Alpha-DOG
[00:42] <Zenker> ohhh bigtom21485 you might beable 2 use whine with the software that came with the ipod
[00:43] <kmm> Typos_King how do u do that
[00:43] <t3chkommie> hi everyone, i have another question. when pointing my browser to a lan server, id wont conect, i have to put in the ip address, is there a setting to change this?
[00:43] <Alpha-DOG> yeah i installed wine thanks guys apriciate all of your help and cu tomorow couse i need some sleep
[00:44] <Alpha-DOG> good bye and have a nice day/night to all
[00:44] <unop> t3chkommie, how are you pointing at this LAN server?
[00:44] <t3chkommie> http://<name of server>
[00:44] <t3chkommie> works in chrome great.
[00:44] <Typos_King> kmm:  in gnome.... I think it has an applet in the control panel....  the way I've done it is usually checking with 'sysv-rc-conf' package, or in KDE through the control panel too
[00:44] <chelz> netech: are you using a US locale?
[00:44] <chelz> netech: also what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:45] <netech> chelz: yes and 9.10
[00:45] <unop> t3chkommie, are you able to resolve the server name properly at the terminal?  i.e.  host name_of_server
[00:45] <netech> I found the tutor file, but I'm curious why vimtutor didn't
[00:45] <r0r41m4> t3chkommie sound liak a DNS problem
[00:45] <t3chkommie> unop, im not sure.
[00:45] <chelz> netech: try sudo apt-get install vim-full
[00:46] <tiredbones> I'm able to install xlrd, for read excel spread sheet, but xlwt is not to be found in synaptic. can someone tell me why?
[00:46] <t3chkommie> r0r41m4, its a ubuntu server with just samba going, my windows machines can point to i just fine with the name, but for some reason, ubuntu wont :(
[00:47] <chelz> netech: make sure you "Make a copy of this     file to practise on"
[00:47] <GSF1200S> how do I find out what audio device my usb webcam microphone is?
[00:47] <chelz> GSF1200S: what are you trying to do?
[00:47] <unop> t3chkommie,  nmblookup name_of_server
[00:47] <r0r41m4> t3ch : is the machine name in the /etc/hosts file ?
[00:47] <chelz> tiredbones: it's under python-xlwt
[00:48] <t3chkommie> i can check.
[00:48] <tiredbones> chelz, thanks
[00:48] <GSF1200S> chelz: I have a USB webcam, which is supported. I have a speech class and I need to record myself doing a speech so I can make corrections- I have figured out that /dev/video0 is my video
[00:48] <r0r41m4> open a terminal session and type : more /etc/hosts
[00:49] <GSF1200S> chelz: I need the audio device so I can record audio with the avi that vlc makes
[00:49] <GSF1200S> unless you know of another app that can do both audio and video recording
[00:49] <tooydokke1enz> hi all!   It has happened to me before :(
[00:50] <t3chkommie> ya its in the right ip range.
[00:50] <t3chkommie> i checked my host file.
[00:50] <tiredbones> chelz, I'm on version 9.04, what release are you on. python-xlwt is not on my system.
[00:50] <crogeek> chelz, : I will try to do now
[00:50] <crogeek> if I fail this
[00:50] <t3chkommie> its got a strange .edu on it. should i take that off?
[00:50] <crogeek> I hope that I will get to manage 3d without any problems
[00:51] <chelz> GSF1200S: i'm not sure there is one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449179
[00:51] <Typos_King> tiredbones:  just use 'calc' :P
[00:51] <crogeek> chelz, : look this
[00:51] <chelz> GSF1200S: you might try another webcam recording program
[00:51] <t3chkommie> nmb lookup gives me the right ip
[00:51] <Typos_King> or gnumeric
[00:52] <GSF1200S> chelz: I havent been able to find any that do both audio and video in the same avi.. thanks for the link- ill check it out :)
[00:52] <tiredbones> Typos_King, I'm trying to write reports from excel spread sheet.
[00:52] <chelz> GSF1200S: cheese, cinelerra might work
[00:52] <chelz> crogeek: alright
[00:53] <GSF1200S> ill try cinelerra.. cheese wont use my webcam.. i dont know why
[00:53] <crogeek> chelz, : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]
[00:53] <KWhat_Work> anyone have porttime installed?
[00:53] <chelz> tiredbones: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361335
[00:53] <GSF1200S> tried to sort that yesterday
[00:53] <crogeek> chelz, : so what I do next?
[00:53] <KWhat_Work> anyone have portmidi or portmedia installed
[00:53] <tiredbones> chelz, thanks for the pointer.
[00:53] <Typos_King> tiredbones:  ... and 'calc' can't help on that? just wondering
[00:54] <chelz> crogeek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361335
[00:54] <chelz> erm
[00:54] <chelz> crogeek: not that
[00:54] <chelz> crogeek: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[00:54] <FloodBot2> chelz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:54] <crogeek> chelz, : there's nothing :(
[00:54] <t3chkommie> r0r41m4- i checked my host name, it comes out with some strange ending. what should it look like?
[00:54] <sybariten2> OK so i have a headless ubuntu machine , which lately have been able to drop network connection completely - or almost completely
[00:54] <sybariten2> the thing is, i still see it in the router
[00:54] <chelz> crogeek: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:54] <Jon-> My CD-drive is stuck. I did an unmount /media/cdrom0 and it is no longer mounted, but it will not respond to an eject command. Help?
[00:54] <crogeek> chelz, : 9.10
[00:55] <crogeek> newest
[00:55] <sybariten2> i unplugged the network cable, it disappeared from the router list of attached devices... i replugged it... it got the same IP as always.
[00:55] <sybariten2> But its not answering to ping!
[00:55] <t3chkommie> jon, can you use a paper click and push the manual override in the rom dor?
[00:55] <sybariten2> And i cant SSH into it....       this time it started when i tormented it with a lot of torrents tonight
[00:55] <Jon-> t3chkommie: I am sure I might be able to.. or, you know, I could always boot into Windows. I highly doubt the problem is physical.
[00:56] <sybariten2> so the question is, is there anything i can do from the remote end... at all?  i think its odd that the router sees it. When i cant ping it even.
[00:56] <alam> Hola hay alguien que hable en español?
[00:56] <tiredbones> Typos_King,  no, not for reading a excel spread sheet or calc sheet. I need to read the data in the spread sheet to make a report.
[00:56] <t3chkommie> jon are you on a headless server?
[00:56] <dakar> !!
[00:56] <Jon-> My CD-drive is stuck. I did an unmount /media/cdrom0 and it is no longer mounted, but it will not respond to an eject command. Help?
[00:56] <dakar> hey everyone
[00:56] <Jon-> t3chkommie: I am running Ubuntu desktop 9.10
[00:56] <chelz> crogeek:  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[00:57] <crogeek> chelz, : thanks I will do that
[00:57] <chelz> Jon-: is it a desktop?
[00:57] <t3chkommie> jon, i have had that happen to me a few times. i had to reboot, and check my updates, that fixed my problem.
[00:57] <chelz> sybariten2: try hooking up a monitor and keyboard to it
[00:57] <Jon-> eject /media/cdrom0 fixed the issue.
[00:57] <Jon-> chalk one up for I-hate-linux-sometimes
[00:57] <crogeek> chelz, : I did that and see this
[00:58] <sybariten2> chelz: i have the keyboard already... went there and typed the command to restart ssh, blindly
[00:58] <chelz> tiredbones: you can open excel stuff with openoffice calc and export to a more sane format like csv
[00:58] <eremite> Jon-: open a terminal and type   eject
[00:58] <Jon-> eremite: got it already thanks
[00:58] <crogeek> chelz,
[00:58] <crogeek> lok
[00:58] <crogeek> look
[00:58] <crogeek> Reading package lists... Done
[00:58] <crogeek> Building dependency tree
[00:58] <crogeek> Reading state information... Done
[00:58] <crogeek> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[00:58] <FloodBot2> crogeek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:58] <chelz> sybariten2: probably a good idea to find a monitor
[00:58] <Jon-> Wow
[00:58] <chelz> !pastebin | crogeek
[00:58] <Jon-> Now it still won't open
[00:58] <Jon-> I can only open it manually via terminal
[00:58] <chelz> crogeek: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:58] <Jon-> Gotta reboot. SIgh.
[00:58] <crogeek> chelz,  ok
[00:59] <Typos_King> tiredbones:   are you doing Perl stuff?
[00:59] <sybariten2> chelz: and, uhm, i did a login before that, blindly... hmmm so its not as funked up as the last time, obviously. The last time i had a login prompt, that didnt take any input. Cursor was blinking and caps lock worked, but no characters appeared on screen
[00:59] <banisterfiend> is youtube down for anyone else?
[00:59] <Typos_King> tiredbones:   perl has an excel reader module, soooo
[00:59] <crogeek> chelz, : I did that
[00:59] <crogeek> chelz, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/407321/
[00:59] <Typos_King> banisterfiend:   yes
[00:59] <t3chkommie> banisterfiend.... looks like it lol
[01:00] <Typos_King> they might be ... who knows, maintenance downtime or something
[01:00] <chelz> crogeek:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:01] <norbi905> You can still browse videos on youtube, just not through www.youtube.com
[01:01] <truk> hey everyone, have a nice night or day
[01:01] <wasutton3_1> does anyone know how to make a program execute when a specific usb device is connected?
[01:01] <srv> I have a 512KB directory, how do I make a floppy .img containing the files in that directory?
[01:01] <banisterfiend> norbi905: how do i browse the vids? any other website i can use?
[01:02] <Stormx2> norbi905: what's happened? just spike from traffic after redesign?
[01:02] <crogeek> chelz, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/407323/ - look
[01:02] <norbi905> banisterfiend:  google the youtube video, instead of going to youtube.com, go directly to the video link and it should work
[01:02] <tiredbones> chelz, I thought about doing it that way, but it would add another step to the process and I don't want to add more procedure to the process.
[01:03] <chelz> crogeek: run in a terminal and pastebin:  compiz-check
[01:03] <banisterfiend> norbi905: thanks
[01:03] <Typos_King> wasutton3_1:    512bytes?  512kbs?    you mean half a mb?    don't have a floppy? :)
[01:03] <unop> wasutton3_1, one way is to write a udev rule  see - http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[01:03] <tiredbones> Typos_King,  No, I use Python.
[01:03] <alexalex> any idea how to repair ntfs partition? testdisk sees the files but bootsector repair doesnt seem to help
[01:03] <crogeek> chelz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/407326/
[01:03] <norbi905> Stormx2:  Not sure, but had the same issue a couple of days ago.
[01:03] <wasutton3_1> Typos_King: What are you talking about?
[01:04] <chelz> crogeek:  sudo apt-get install compiz-check && compiz-check
[01:04] <Typos_King> wasutton3_1:    wrong nick hehee, my bad
[01:04] <truk> bybybybyby and oao
[01:04] <Typos_King> srv:    512bytes?  512kbs?    you mean half a mb?    don't have a floppy? :)
[01:04] <wasutton3_1> Typos_King: lol, its all good
[01:05] <crogeek> chelz, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/407327/
[01:05] <Typos_King> tiredbones:   I see
[01:05] <chelz> tiredbones: does that forum thread let you do what you want to?
[01:05] <srv> Typos_King, I'm trying to run some good ol' Atari games here on an emulator, it needs a floppy image :)
[01:06] <unop> srv, in short.  create a blank file (with dd) - use mkfs.vfat to format the file - mount the file on the loopback device and then copy files across
[01:06] <srv> unop: I love you man, thank you
[01:06] <chelz> crogeek:  wget http://blogage.de/files/9124/download -O compiz-check && chmod u+x compiz-check && ./compiz-check
[01:07] <crogeek> chelz, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/407328/
[01:08] <tiredbones> chelz, no, I like to know why xlrd is in synaptic, but xlwt is not.
[01:09] <chelz> tiredbones: it was in older versions of ubuntu. you could try grabbing that debsrc and building it, or if you really want to know you could open a bug requesting packaging of it or try contacting the previous maintainer
[01:09] <chelz> tiredbones: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python-xlwt
[01:10] <chelz> tiredbones: looks like it's in karmic and lucid to me
[01:10] <crogeek> chelz, : what to do now ? - what do you think what's problem?
[01:10] <tiredbones> chelz,  do you thing I could use the one in karmic or licid?
[01:11] <chelz> crogeek: reboot then go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers and install the driver
[01:11] <crogeek> chelz, : okay I will do that, brb
[01:11] <crogeek> chelz, : thanks
[01:11] <sybariten2> chelz: doing a restart of networking, blindly, with an attached keyboard , helped it!
[01:12] <chelz> tiredbones: i would actually recommend installing from the tar.gz on its homepage: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xlwt
[01:12] <chelz> sybariten2: you really should find a monitor :P
[01:12] <Pelo> anyone else getting issues with usb dirves not auto-mounting recently or just me ?
[01:13] <tiredbones> chelz,  ok, thanks
[01:13] <chelz> tiredbones: will what you're making only be used on your system?
[01:13] <aliciapg> is there a program that can convert an image to text?
[01:13] <tiredbones> chelz,  No
[01:14] <chelz> aliciapg: http://www.google.com/search?q=jpg+OR+image+to+ascii
[01:14] <crogeek> chelz, : hi and still the same message I have, there's no new drivers
[01:14] <chelz> crogeek: is there anything in the driver list?
[01:14] <crogeek> nope
[01:14] <aliciapg> chelz: not exactly what i mean...
[01:14] <crogeek> just nothing
[01:14] <aliciapg> i meant an image of text to text
[01:15] <chelz> aliciapg: oh OCR
[01:15] <tiredbones> chelz,  I plan on make web page from the data in the spread sheet.
[01:15] <chelz> aliciapg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[01:15] <crogeek> chelz, : I didn't try to install AMD drivers I am using currently Ubuntu drivers, but when I enable 3d effects, everything is slow and sometimes even I cannot enable this - I updated my Ubuntu to the end
[01:15] <chelz> tiredbones: will the python script you are making now only be run on your 9.04 jaunty ubuntu system?
[01:15] <sybariten2> chelz: yeah, well, i have one. the one i use for my main computer. :)   one intereseting thing to note: a server can adress itself in a router - even after NIC cable is yanked and replugged - even though you cant SSH/ping
[01:16] <chelz> crogeek: you need to have AMD drivers for 3d stuff
[01:16] <crogeek> chelz, : can you give me link how to install this? - I am amateur for terminal :(
[01:16] <chelz> crogeek: are you on 32bit or 64bit?
[01:17] <crogeek> crogeek, :32bit Ubuntu 9.10
[01:17] <tiredbones> chelz,  I plan on testing it on my system, but the page will be on a Microsoft machine.
[01:18] <Typos_King> banisterfiend:   youtube.com is back up :P~
[01:18] <chelz> crogeek: have you installed all updates for your system?
[01:19] <chelz> tiredbones: i just mean the actual python, not the stuff/pages it generates. but alright
[01:19] <crogeek> crogeek, : yes
[01:19] <mantis> anyone help me with following message from apache error log (Ubuntu 9.10)?
[01:19] <crogeek> chelz, : yes*
[01:19] <srv> I'm on Karmic Koala, the login prompt shows my userid, I don't want that; how do I set it up so that Ubuntu requires me to enter my username in order to login?
[01:19] <mantis> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/perl.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/perl.so: undefined symbol: boot_DynaLoader in Unknown on line 0
[01:19] <srv> s/prompt/screen/
[01:19] <chelz> crogeek: ok just for fun, please run this in a terminal and pastebin the output:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:20] <Talon_> My ubuntu 9.10 upgraded some stuff and now its asking me for passwords for everything again! even mounting a darn drive! wheres those xml files or whatever so i can set stuff to always allow?
[01:20] <aliciapg> thanks chelz it doesn't support the language i need though >-<
[01:20] <chelz> crogeek: please also include the output of this in a terminal:   uname -a
[01:21] <System32> Hello Eberyone
[01:21] <chelz> aliciapg: what language?
[01:21] <chelz> !hi | System32
[01:21] <bebe> ufuf
[01:21] <aliciapg> chelz: korean
[01:21] <System32> Ho whats going ?
[01:21] <System32> How*
[01:22] <tiredbones> chelz,  thanks for your help.  NOT SURE IF IT WILL WORK ON KARMIC, so don't blame me if it breaks something - http://paste.ubuntu.com/407335/
[01:23] <crogeek> chelz, : look http://paste.ubuntu.com/407336/
[01:23] <chelz> aliciapg: i'm not really finding any good popular tools for korean OCRing in ubuntu, at least not in english results
[01:23] <crogeek> chelz, : I have updated Ubuntu to the end
[01:23] <srv> ZykoticK9, outstanding! thank you
[01:24] <System32> I'm connected on BackTrack 4 Final
[01:24] <System32> with of you use it ?
[01:24] <chelz> crogeek: please also include the output of this in a terminal:   uname -a
[01:24] <System32> ?*
[01:24] <chelz> !bt4 | System32
[01:24] <chelz> !backtrack | System32
[01:25] <System32> I know all unix system
[01:25] <System32> :l
[01:25] <crogeek> chelz, : on this command?
[01:25] <natetheis> Hello. I need to make dpkg think that the package "xulrunner" is installed in order for a dependency. Xulrunner is installed on my system with a different package name.
[01:25] <System32> Use :
[01:25] <crogeek> chelz, : jura@Jura-linuxUbuntu:~$ uname -a
[01:25] <crogeek> Linux Jura-linuxUbuntu 2.6.31-21-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 24 07:28:56 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:25] <System32> dpkg "name software"
[01:25] <System32> without postrophe
[01:25] <chelz> mantis: what are you trying to do?
[01:25] <System32> apostrophe*
[01:25] <srv> As English is not my mother tongue and I'm not that familiar with programming terminology, please give me Google search terms for: "having 2 passwords for logging in to Ubuntu, one for normal access, one for shredding the whole /home/username folder"
[01:26] <Talon_> can I just remove policykit-1 ?
[01:26] <srv> please give me good Google search terms for: "having 2 passwords for logging in to Ubuntu, one for normal access, one for shredding the whole /home/username folder"
[01:26] <System32> You can't having 2 password
[01:26] <System32> on you OS.
[01:26] <System32> your*
[01:26] <mantis> chelz: i'm trying to use the PECL Perl extension
[01:27] <crogeek> chelz, : what do you think?
[01:27] <srv> So, I'm gonna be the first person on earth to implement this on my distro :D
[01:27] <aliciapg> chelz: yeah me either >-< that's okay i might just train tesseract
[01:27] <srv> living in Iran, it's an absolutely necessary feature
[01:27] <natetheis> srv: Try to use a PAM module.
[01:27] <mantis> chelz: when i start apache, i get that error...been searching the internet since yesterday for a solution
[01:28] <mantis> chelz: worked fine on my home system, also Ubuntu 9.10
[01:28] <srv> natetheis, hmm, good idea
[01:28] <natetheis> Repeating my question due to lack of response:  I need to make dpkg think that the package "xulrunner" is installed in order for a dependency. Xulrunner is installed on my system with a different package name. How do I go about this?
[01:28] <chelz> mantis: sudo aptitude install php5-dev php-pear
[01:28] <chelz> mantis: from http://perlucida.com/blog/software/howto-install-pecl-uploadprogress-indicator-for-drupal-on-ubuntu-904-jaunty
[01:29] <chelz> crogeek: please pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:29] <crogeek> crogeek, : how to do it? in terminal?
[01:30] <crogeek> chelz, : how to do it? in terminal?
[01:30] <natetheis> crogeek: Press Alt+F2, type in "gksudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf; suspend", check the "run in terminal" box
[01:31] <mantis> chelz: "dpkg -l" shows that i have both php5-dev and php-pear already
[01:32] <crogeek> natetheis, : I did that and I don't see any results
[01:32] <crogeek> wtf
[01:32] <Typos_King> natetheis:  the advice will be, you don't :)
[01:32] <natetheis> crogeek: Did you check the "run in terminal" box?
[01:32] <Syco54645> i am having an issue using my usb flash drives. it is taking a very very long time to copy files to them now. why would this be?
[01:32] <natetheis> Typos_King: Why?
[01:32] <crogeek> natetheis, : yes I will try again
[01:32] <Talon_> yay, found it, /usr/share/polkit-1/actions had to make all "auth_admin_keep" to "yes" in every .policy file and no more authentication nags!, I wish these package managers would QUIT changing this stuff
[01:33] <Typos_King> natetheis:  after all that's done, the package needing xulrunner may still not work or not properly
[01:33] <crogeek> natetheis, : yes and I saw only blank screen of terminal which quited
[01:33] <natetheis> Typos_King: It's in python
[01:33] <natetheis> Typos_King: And I won't even use the package
[01:34] <natetheis> Typos_King: It itself is an unnessecary part of a metapackage
[01:34] <chelz> crogeek: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[01:34] <natetheis> crogeek: Okay, try this. Alt-F2, type "gksudo gnome-terminal"
[01:34] <natetheis> In the window that appears, type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:35] <mantis> chelz: i also tried "sudo pecl install perl" with no luck (Package "perl" Version "1.0.0" does not have REST xml available)
[01:35] <Talon_> if I chmod a-w *.policy so it was read-only, could package updates still modify those policy files?
[01:35] <crogeek> chelz, : look this
[01:35] <crogeek> chelz, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/407340/
[01:35] <Typos_King> natetheis:   install the package manually with dpkg -i --ignore-depends=xulrunner or so, mayb e
[01:36] <crogeek> chelz, : it gives me errror that this conf doesn't exist
[01:36] <chelz> crogeek: yeah that's ok
[01:37] <crogeek> chelz, : hm - so what do you think, this means that I don't have drivers ?
[01:37] <jack> hey
[01:37] <jack> is it just me or is launchpad down for you as well?
[01:37] <chelz> crogeek: sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[01:37] <chelz> crogeek: then reboot
[01:38] <Alcor> test
[01:39] <chelz> mantis: what's the difference between the two machines you've tried it on? are they both ubuntu 9.10?
[01:39] <crogeek> chelz, : ok, brb
[01:39] <chelz> !hi | Alcor
[01:39] <mantis> one is my home system (works fine)...other is a Linode
[01:39] <jack> could someone please test http://launchpad.net or so?
[01:39] <mantis> chelz: one is my home system (works fine)...other is a Linode
[01:40] <chelz> mantis: might try opening a linode support ticket since hosts do wacky things to distros
[01:40] <natetheis> Okay, how do I get apt-get to download a package, ignoring dependencies?
[01:40] <mantis> chelz: thank you i will do that now...
[01:41] <chelz> natetheis: what are you trying to do?
[01:41] <natetheis> see 5:35:36 PST, Typos_King's comment
[01:41] <crogeek> chelz, : yes I have done that and what now?
[01:42] <mantis> chelz: also, when i run "make test" to install the Perl extension, it "skips" all 70 tests with the reason for each being "perl extension not available", which seems weird since of course i'm trying to install it...but then "make install" throws no errors
[01:42] <chelz> crogeek:   ./compiz-check | pastebinit
[01:43] <chelz> mantis: sorry guy, since it's not a default ubuntu install that's all linode-specific.
[01:43] <natetheis> chelz: Notably: install the package manually with dpkg -i --ignore-depends=xulrunner
[01:43] <crogeek> chelz, : yes I have done that
[01:43] <natetheis> chelz: so I need the package
[01:43] <mantis> chelz: and there is in fact a perl.so in /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs...k, thanks, i'll take it up with Linode
[01:43] <chelz> crogeek: it should give you a url to give to me
[01:43] <Typos_King> natetheis:   I think is the --ignore-missing argument
[01:43] <crogeek> chelz, : okay
[01:43] <crogeek> chelz, : I will copy paste what ./compiz-check
[01:43] <crogeek> tell to me
[01:43] <crogeek> ok?
[01:44] <crogeek> on pastebin
[01:44] <FloodBot2> crogeek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:44] <jub369> any one here know anything about Byond or Putty
[01:44] <natetheis> Typos_King: Nope, no worky worky
[01:44] <crogeek> chelz, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/407342/
[01:44] <Typos_King> ahemm
[01:46] <chelz> crogeek: do you have compiz-settings installed?
[01:46] <crogeek> chelz, : I think yes
[01:46] <crogeek> chelz, : I am not sure, how to check for that?
[01:46] <chelz> crogeek: go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance and try to enable desktop effects
[01:47] <crogeek> ok brb
[01:47] <jub369> any one here know anything about Byond or Putty
[01:47] <Typos_King> natetheis:   what if you just do the installation manually?  have -> apt-get -d install PACKAGE; get all .deb files then manually install each with  sudo dpkg -i --ignore-depends ...,  the files downloaded by apt-get install are at /var/cache/apt/archive
[01:47] <IdleOne> jub369: why not ask your next question, the real one that you want answered :)
[01:47] <Typos_King> natetheis:   -d only downloads it, no install
[01:47] <crogeek> chelz, : "searching for avaiable drivers" and
[01:47] <crogeek> WORKS
[01:47] <natetheis> Typos_King: That's what I'm trying to do, but -d fails with a dependency error.
[01:48] <crogeek> chelz, : O MY GOD! it's working
[01:48] <crogeek> now
[01:48] <chelz> natetheis:   dpkg --force-conflicts -i vsftpd_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
[01:48] <crogeek> 3d fully working without any lags
[01:48] <jub369> ok how do i make it so when i type ./DreamDaemon folder/file.dmb port -safe -trusted& that it will keep the game running instead of saying segminated fail and then shuting the command off and game
[01:48] <chelz> crogeek: yeah, good. sorry that took so long.
[01:48] <crogeek> chelz, : can you say me what has been faulty?
[01:48] <chelz> crogeek: i do not know. somehow the driver wasn't setup properly. just removing and reinstalling some stuff was the fix.
[01:48] <natetheis> chelz: That's not what I am trying to do. I am trying to get the package in the first place.
[01:49] <luca_> Xchat?
[01:49] <Typos_King> natetheis: you know you can grab the files also from their repository at http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[01:49] <luca_> ma cosè?!
[01:49] <chelz> natetheis: does it matter how?
[01:49] <IdleOne> !it | luca_
[01:49] <chelz> natetheis: yeah you can get packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:49] <luca_> ciasu
[01:49] <luca_> ciau
[01:49] <natetheis> Great, but it's unfortunately not in the Ubuntu repos. :-(
[01:50] <chelz> natetheis: http://packages.debian.org
[01:50] <natetheis> It's a PPA
[01:50] <luca_> hi
[01:50] <IdleOne> hello luca_
[01:50] <luca_> hello =)
[01:50] <aliciapg> is there a way to add languages to wine?
[01:50] <chelz> natetheis: on the main page click on "View package details
[01:50] <chelz> "
[01:51] <chelz> natetheis: might have to search the page for it
[01:51] <crogeek> chelz, : only what lags is now Flash video, but I think that's because I have not good graph. card
[01:51] <chelz> crogeek: flash lags everywhere unfortunately
[01:51] <crogeek> chelz, : that's problem of Adobe?
[01:52] <natetheis> Okay. I got it. I browsed to the entry in sources.list with Firefox.
[01:52] <chelz> crogeek: mostly yeah
[01:52] <natetheis> Thanks
[01:53] <chelz> natetheis: "View package details" on a PPA main page, then clicking on Packages to open them up shows what files are part of the PPA. but yeah your way works
[01:53] <dnivra> When I try to use update manager, it says "proxy not found". But i changed the global settings and also the settings in synaptic. why is it that update manager still is trying to access internet through the proxy?
[01:53] <chelz> dnivra: open up Synaptic
[01:53] <dnivra> chelz, yes done.
[01:54] <chelz> dnivra: go to Settings -> Preferences -> Network (tab)
[01:54] <dnivra> chelz, it says "direct connection to internet".
[01:54] <chelz> dnivra: click on Manual and fill out the proxy info there. sorry about that. that really should be easier.
[01:54] <chelz> oh wait
[01:55] <chelz> dnivra: sorry i thought you wanted to connect through a proxy
[01:55] <dnivra> chelz, no problem. happens:). any suggestions on how to not use the proxy?
[01:56] <chelz> dnivra: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/112090-removing-network-proxy.html#post658342
[01:56] <dnivra> chelz, thanks! I'll take a look
[01:56] <chelz> dnivra: to edit it you can use this in a terminal:   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[01:56] <dnivra> chelz, thanks!
[01:57] <dnivra> chelz, my apt.conf is empty. is it supposed to be like that?
[01:57] <chelz> jub369: you need a space before the & at the end of the line
[01:58] <jub369> ok ty
[01:58] <chelz> jub369: i think that might work, but it might not. tell me if it doesn't work
[01:58] <bigtom21485> how do i get moovida to sync with my ipod?
[01:58] <chelz> dnivra: yeah that's fine. try to put in: Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[01:58] <jub369> i got it working
[01:58] <dnivra> chelz, ok. thanks!
[01:58] <jub369> i kept forgetting to add the .
[01:59] <dnivra> chelz, no luck it keeps saying the same thing: proxy not found
[02:00] <chelz> dnivra: one thing to try is a reboot, or a logout then login but ideally reboot
[02:00] <dnivra> chelz, ok
[02:01] <Burzmali> Does anyone know if you can get the workspaces on the Gnome desktop to have different resolutions?
[02:01] <chelz> Burzmali: do you want to have different monitors view different workspaces?
[02:02] <dnivra> chelz, got it! log out worked! thanks!
[02:02] <Burzmali> chelz: Nope, I have a program open in Wine on one desktop that is running at 640 x 480 and I would like my other desktop to stay at it's default resolution
[02:03] <chelz> dnivra: if you want you could try taking that line out of apt.conf and seeing if it's still fixed
[02:04] <chelz> Burzmali: that would require running two x servers and having one workspace be for the 2nd xserver
[02:04] <dnivra> chelz, the file's empty. cleaned it just before logging out just to check if it works.
[02:04] <DVA5912> What would be the easiest way to develop GUI applications? Im used to Visual Studio in windows but i cant seem to find anything like that here
[02:04] <matmat> hello
[02:04] <chelz> dnivra: ah good job :)
[02:05] <DVA5912> matmat: hello
[02:05] <chelz> dnivra: yeah changing it in the gui should do it
[02:05] <Burzmali> chelz : Ah, thanks for the help.
[02:05] <dnivra> chelz, thank you! you helped me out!
[02:05] <matmat> how can i get hdmi sound output to work? i'm on mythbuntu (xfce)
[02:06] <chelz> Burzmali: is the program fullscreen or windowed?
[02:06] <kbrosnan> DVA5912: eclipse, if you want an IDE similar to msvs.
[02:06] <chelz> DVA5912: what programming languages are you familiar with?
[02:06] <blakkheim> DVA5912: vi
[02:07] <clevefan> Hi channel
[02:07] <DVA5912> kbrosnan: kk. Well i was using Code::Blocks.
[02:07] <chelz> !hi | clevefan
[02:07] <DVA5912> chelz: im used to VB.net, paritial of C++, C# i can learn easily python as from what ive seen its easy
[02:07] <DVA5912> blakkheim: no way in heck im using vi
[02:08] <clevefan> Does the xubuntu install require internet connection to install GUI?
[02:08] <blakkheim> DVA5912: your loss
[02:08] <chelz> DVA5912: you might like http://monodevelop.com/
[02:08] <dacs> hey folks, anyone used firebug
[02:08] <chelz> DVA5912: there are a *ton* of linux editors, even gui ones. first get used to using one then just download others and try them out.
[02:08] <DVA5912> chelz: mono? Ive looked at that before. Kinda got sick of it after an hour setting up project
[02:09] <chelz> DVA5912: what did you use on windows?
[02:09] <DVA5912> chelz: Mainly vb.net... I know, ive heard every comment in the books
[02:09] <kbrosnan> Microsoft Visual Studio (MSVS)
[02:09] <clevefan> Having issues installing xubuntu any help appreciated
[02:09] <DVA5912> oh.. yeah msvs
[02:09] <chelz> DVA5912: i mean editor/ide
[02:09] <chelz> ah
[02:10] <matmat> can no one help me about hdmi sound?
[02:10] <DVA5912> I think i would like to get into C++ on this. My teacher who i was getting vb.net from showed me C++ and i took to it easily
[02:10] <chelz> DVA5912: yeah MonoDevelop and Eclipse are both the most similar to that since they're IDEs. there are editors like Kate and Gedit and although they have plugins to do a lot of nifty things, they'll not do as much as an IDE
[02:11] <chelz> DVA5912: from your C# experience i'd recommend you stick with MonoDevelop
[02:11] <chelz> matmat: one moment
[02:11] <kbrosnan> if you need a ui builder, there is glade.gnome.org on the gtk side
[02:11] <kbrosnan> not sure about the quality of what it puts out though
[02:12] <chelz> matmat: what videocard do you have?
[02:12] <DVA5912> chelz: well. on my position now, im in the spot where i can switch my development tools
[02:12] <DVA5912> chelz: MonoDevelop is its own IDE though right?
[02:12] <chelz> DVA5912: it is. here: http://alternativeto.net/desktop/eclipse/
[02:13] <DVA5912> thanx
[02:15] <NetScr1be> what's the right channel to ask questions about make errors when compiling?
[02:16] <matmat> chelz: nvidia 9300
[02:18] <Untitled_only> does anyone know how to get skype for ubuntu 9.10?
[02:19] <NetScr1be> sorry
[02:20] <Untitled_only> thanks anyway
[02:20] <NetScr1be> What's the right channel for asking about make errors when compiling?
[02:20] <maco> NetScr1be: possibly a programming channel?
[02:21] <maco> NetScr1be: or if its a specific project youre building from source... that project's channel?
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> Untitled_only, get skype from http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/
[02:21] <NetScr1be> logo
[02:22] <freazor> can anyone tell me why i get this error "ssl_error_ssl_disabled" when i try to go to google mail or other sites using ssl ?? SSL and TLS is activated in the firefox options
[02:23] <chelz> matmat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1332261
[02:24] <chelz> matmat: make sure nothing is muted in alsamixer
[02:24] <aliciapg> noone in #winehq is helping so does anyone know if you can add languages to wine?
[02:24] <chelz> freazor: you might need to close and reopen firefox
[02:25] <wade> I can't change my desktop resolution it only gives me 2 choices, 640x480 and 320x240. Also when I click display it says; It appears your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool. Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead? I installed my graphics drivers through Ubuntu's Hardware Drivers option but that didn't make it any different. Help?
[02:25] <Alcor> Does Ubuntu have video support? (Usb camera)
[02:25] <chelz> aliciapg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383628
[02:25] <blakkheim> wade: what gpu do you have
[02:25] <freazor> chelz: no i already tryed it :(
[02:25] <matmat> those iec9.. something are muted, but i cant change that
[02:25] <blakkheim> aliciapg: be patient
[02:25] <matmat> i just get analogue sound output
[02:25] <wade> nvidia fx 5200
[02:25] <etzerd> hello all
[02:26] <chelz> freazor: logging out and back in do anything?
[02:26] <codygman> do you have to have a domain name for mailing to work?
[02:26] <codygman> i mean like sendmail
[02:26] <freazor> chelz: i already did .. the problem comes everytime
[02:27] <chelz> codygman: you have to have an outgoing mailserver of somekind. ISPs provide them and also places like gmail allow it
[02:27] <chelz> freazor: did you ever disable ssl?
[02:27] <wade> blakkheim: nvidia fx 5200
[02:27] <freazor> chelz: no i didnt. i get this message when i start firefox http://suchismitamajumder.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/firefox-security-component-alert.png?w=468&h=144
[02:27] <codygman> chelz.. can't i set that up on my server?
[02:27] <aliciapg> chelz: hmm... thanks i'll try this and hope i don't break mabinogi
[02:27] <IceDeep> I am wondering if someone can help me... something happened I got some error's on bootup, I/O errors, and now it seems empathy/telepathy-butterfly is broke because I can't login to MSN, and it's eathing up 70%-100% Cpu usage.
[02:28] <IceDeep> I tried re-installing, it just dropped the CPU usage to the 60% now.. which it never was before
[02:28] <chelz> freazor: http://suchismitamajumder.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/how-to-fix-error-code-ssl_error_ssl_disabled/
[02:29] <freazor> chelz: i read this already but its the help for windows firefox not for ubuntu.. and i dont know where to find the firefox dir or the file
[02:29] <chelz> codygman: yes but some ISPs don't like their customers sending out traffic on the outgoing mail port since it's used for spam a lot
[02:29] <chelz> freazor: it's in your home directory in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[02:30] <EDDUARDDO> aaee galera
[02:30] <EDDUARDDO> buenas
[02:30] <chelz> freazor: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox#Linux_and_Unix
[02:30] <EDDUARDDO> óh eu aki com mais um problema insoluvel
[02:30] <chelz> !pt | EDDUARDDO
[02:30] <EDDUARDDO> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[02:30] <wade> I can't change my desktop resolution it only gives me 2 choices, 640x480 and 320x240. Also when I click display it says; It appears your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool. Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead? I installed my graphics drivers through Ubuntu's Hardware Drivers option but that didn't make it any different. Help?
[02:31] <dragonboss> Does palimpsest read the smart data from external drives?
[02:32] <chelz> IceDeep: are you on ubuntu karmic 9.10?
[02:33] <freazor> chelz: thx .. but i only can find profiles.ini there
[02:33] <IceDeep> Yes
[02:33] <patrick_> awn or cairo for docks? Im coming from osx
[02:33] <freazor> chelz: it has this rights .. -rw-r--r--
[02:33] <wade> helpppppppppppppp.
[02:33] <freazor> could this be the problem?
[02:33] <Gelfling> patrick_, i prefer cairo
[02:34] <chelz> freazor: how much free space do you have on your drive?
[02:34] <freazor> chelz: 3,5gb
[02:34] <chelz> IceDeep: in a terminal run: top
[02:34] <NixNoob> hello all, I'm new to this channel
[02:34] <wade> I can't change my desktop resolution it only gives me 2 choices, 640x480 and 320x240. Also when I click display it says; It appears your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool. Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead? I installed my graphics drivers through Ubuntu's Hardware Drivers option but that didn't make it any different. Help?  .
[02:34] <patrick_> Gelfling, why
[02:34] <chelz> !hi | NixNoob
[02:34] <NixNoob> Looking for some apache guidance
[02:35] <Gelfling> it just feels better to me
[02:35] <chelz> wade: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[02:35] <IceDeep> Ok, it is running
[02:35] <wade> nvidia fx 5200
[02:35] <Gelfling> easy to customize, and looks bloody awesome
[02:35] <chelz> IceDeep: now programs more toward the top are using more cpu, what are their names?
[02:35] <NixNoob> can anyone help with an Apache question?
[02:35] <chelz> wade: open up a terminal and do   sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[02:35] <Gelfling> NixNoob, ask away
[02:35] <chelz> !ask | NixNoob
[02:35] <IceDeep> Xorg, Xchat, Pything, gnome-do, python, top,
[02:36] <IceDeep> python x 2, misspelled
[02:36] <chelz> IceDeep: what kind of cpu usage percentage is next to each of those?
[02:37] <nishanth> does anyone know how to install IDL for linux?
[02:37] <chelz> nishanth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1694742
[02:37] <wade> nvidia-settings is already the newest version.
[02:37] <wade> nvidia-settings set to manually installed.
[02:37] <wade> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[02:37] <wade>   binutils-static
[02:37] <wade> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[02:37] <wade> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:37] <FloodBot2> wade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:37] <IceDeep> 30% Xorg, 6% Xchat, 2% gnome-do, 4% touchfreeze, 1 %compiz
[02:38] <wade> sorry
[02:38] <chelz> !pastebin | wade
[02:38] <wade> that's what it says
[02:38] <IceDeep> It's changing, but it doesn't show telepathy-butterfly which is showing up in sys-monitor.
[02:38] <wade> haha yeah
[02:38] <chelz> wade: ok in a terminal run: nvidia-settings
[02:38] <wade> ok.
[02:39] <nishanth> is there a parallel program in linux for IDL?
[02:39] <wade> it brought up the settings, i tried messing around with these it didn't do anything.
[02:39] <chelz> wade: go to "X Server Display Configuration"
[02:39] <wade> ok, i'm there.
[02:39] <nishanth> say like octave for matlab
[02:39] <nishanth> is there an alternative for IDL in linux
[02:39] <NixNoob> Apache - I am installing SugarCRM, according to the instructions before I install SugarCRM I am supposed to set AllowOverride  to All for the Sugar installation directory in the httpd.conf file. This surprises me because the httpd.conf file is empty in appache2. The instructions are found here under the section "seccuring your Sugar": http://www.sugarcrm.com/crm/support/documentation/SugarCommunityEdition/5.5.1/-docs-Application_G
[02:40] <chelz> wade: click on "Detect Displays"
[02:40] <chelz> wade: also set Resolution to Auto
[02:41] <wade> ok,
[02:41] <wade> still the same.
[02:41] <poyntz> is it normal that when i've opened PDF files on a kubuntu partition, if I try to open them on a Windows partition they won't open?
[02:41] <chelz> IceDeep: are you running any gfx intensive programs?
[02:41] <DVA5912> Guys. Im looking for a material that will conduct heat VERRY Effectivly. I want to connect it to the heat sync on my laptop when docked and run it through watter cooling stuff. Ideas?
[02:41] <IceDeep> chelz.. I don't know it went down, it's down to 16.7% in my sys-monitor...  But empathy is still broke
[02:41] <chelz> wade: Click on save to X configuration file
[02:42] <IceDeep> I have forced re-install through syn
[02:42] <chelz> IceDeep: how did empathy break?
[02:42] <Semitones> DVA5912: try ##hardware
[02:42] <DVA5912> kk. Transfering.
[02:42] <Semitones> :) you'll probably have better lukc there
[02:42] <IceDeep> I re-started, I got some I/O errors for about 5 min and then it let me login
[02:42] <chelz> nishanth: yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_data_language
[02:43] <IceDeep> Upon login empathy won't connect it trys but doesn't connect
[02:43] <chelz> nishanth: http://gnudatalanguage.sourceforge.net/
[02:43] <wade> http://pastebin.com/FF8VnWH8
[02:43] <nishanth> i tried using synaptic to find GDL but couldn't find it
[02:44] <chelz> wade: in the Hardware Drivers dialog, does it have a green circle next to one of the things in the list?
[02:44] <wade> yes
[02:44] <chelz> NixNoob: /join #sugarcrm
[02:45] <NixNoob> thanks chelz
[02:45] <nishanth> does anyone know what this means
[02:45] <nishanth> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libhdf5-serial-1.8.3|libhdf5-1.8.3
[02:45] <wade> there's only 2 of them and i tried both.
[02:46] <IceDeep> Ok now empathy is working again... *shrugs* this is odd. Thanks for the help.
[02:46] <kaiser10123> can anyone help me use tv turner from dell xps one
[02:46] <chelz> wade: ok do "sudo nvidia-setings" (without the quotes)
[02:47] <chelz> kaiser10123: what brand and model number of tuner?
[02:47] <chelz> nishanth: how did you get that dependency issue?
[02:47] <kaiser10123> chelz: how do i check
[02:47] <wade> ok
[02:48] <nishanth> well i went to http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/gnudatalanguage/download
[02:48] <nishanth> and clicked one of the link to download the GDL
[02:48] <chelz> wade: set the resolution to something you want and tell it to save to xorg.conf
[02:48] <chelz> nishanth: are you on amd64 lucid?
[02:48] <nishanth> yes
[02:48] <wade> but it doesn't have the resolution i want
[02:49] <usr1561> my videos flickering when i watch movies in mplayer and xine? Can someone help me to solve this?
[02:49] <chelz> nishanth: do         sudo apt-get install gnudatalanguage
[02:49] <wade> i want 1024x800 and it only has 2 options which are way to small for my screen
[02:49] <chelz> wade: are all the resolutions small? or what do you mean?
[02:49] <chelz> ah
[02:50] <jonbcc> emergency: I deleted the partition table (I hope that's all) from my external backup drive (and it was my only backup) using gparted (by cimply clicking partition > create prtition table..) clicking "apply" and watching it fail immediately (i suppose because it needed to be unmounted?) --- anyway, if you're wondering: I did it because its the same size as the drive I _meant_ to partition, and I realized last second. now I need to know if its
[02:50] <nishanth> still didnot work
[02:50] <nishanth> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:50] <nishanth> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:50] <nishanth> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:50] <nishanth> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:50] <nishanth> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[02:50] <FloodBot2> nishanth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <chelz> wade: do         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:50] <chelz> nishanth: that's for #ubuntu+1
[02:51] <kaiser10123> chelz: whats command in terminal to display devices
[02:51] <chelz> jonbcc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpart
[02:51] <chelz> kaiser10123: does it not say the model number on it somewhere?
[02:51] <chelz> kaiser10123: to display devices in the terminal you do:   lspci | less
[02:51] <wade> ok..
[02:51] <jonbcc> chelz: ? why did you send me that link?
[02:51] <DouglasK> Question, my wubi installation has stopped booting.. it just drops to a grub command line.  I don't see a copy of menu.lst anywhere in the \ubuntu tree on the windows FS.  Is there a way to refresh the wubi boot system?
[02:51] <kaiser10123> chelz: xps one is all built in one pc
[02:52] <chelz> kaiser10123: and lsub | less
[02:52] <chelz> jonbcc: it recovers a partition table
[02:52] <chelz> jonbcc: btw you got cutoff at "now I need to know if its "
[02:52] <zonyl> HI All.  I cant after upgrade from 9.04-9.10 mysqld wont start.  I tried what was given in bug #444479 however this does not work.  It also implies that a fix is released but mine still wont start.  Dont have any info in the logs about what is going on with it, however, I can start it manually as root.  Just not as mysql user
[02:52] <jonbcc> chelz: thank you - -- now I need to know  if its possible for me to get the data off (it was an ext3 fs)-- anyone?
[02:53] <jonbcc> chelz: I'll look for how to recover
[02:53] <chelz> DouglasK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20can%20I%20access%20my%20Wubi%20install%20and%20repair%20my%20install%20if%20it%20won%27t%20boot?
[02:53] <wade> chelz: what now
[02:53] <chelz> !undelete | jonbcc
[02:54] <DouglasK> chelz: thanks for the FM so that I may RTFM!  :-)
[02:54] <chelz> jonbcc: just editing the partition table shouldn't mess with the data on it at all. gpart should work
[02:54] <user94> would anyone know the command to map to a key in order to start a new terminal?
[02:54] <kaiser10123> chelz: what command?
[02:54] <Gnea> jonbcc: foremost is antoher good utility
[02:54] <chelz> wade: what did it do?
[02:54] <wade> nothing.
[02:54] <Gnea> *another
[02:55] <lino> test
[02:56] <chelz> wade: ok i've got something, just a sec
[02:56] <wade> :)
[02:57] <blackrock> Hello all. It might be off topic, but still, how do you uninstall Postgresql from Ubuntu?
[02:57] <chelz> kaiser10123: pastebin the output of lspci
[02:57] <jonbcc> chelz: Gnea thanks, I'll try foremost if gparted doesn't work. do either of you know how to use gparted to recover? (i'd try figuring it out/looking it up, but this is obviously not fun for me)
[02:58] <NixNoob> Question: I am installing a web app, the instructions say to set AllowOverride to All for the installation directory in the httpd.conf file, I'm not sure what to do because the httpd.conf file is empty, can anyone help?
[02:58] <chelz> jonbcc: the wiki page has some examples
[02:59] <kaiser10123> chelz: http://pastebin.com/qx0t0HfG
[02:59] <chelz> NixNoob: you can try in #apache also
[02:59] <jonbcc> chelz: thanks.
[03:00] <dnivra> which player in Ubuntu can play .wmv files? I tried vlc, mplayer, movieplayer. no luck.
[03:00] <chelz> dnivra: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:01] <dnivra> chelz, it's already installed.
[03:01] <chelz> wade:  wget http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=NjPHbeBR -O ~/xorg.conf && sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20100531 && sudo mv ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <kaiser10123> chelz: did u see my pastebin
[03:01] <etzerd> ehllo guys what's new?
[03:01] <chelz> kaiser10123: i did, just a moment
[03:01] <kaiser10123> its cool
[03:01] <chelz> dnivra: in a terminal try:     mplayer file.wmv   and pastebin the output
[03:02] <wade> ok now that i have that what do i do?
[03:02] <dnivra> chelz, now it plays!! funny!
[03:02] <chelz> kaiser10123: what is the output of:        lsmod | grep tv
[03:02] <chelz> dnivra: ah, well that's good
[03:02] <chelz> wade: reboot
[03:03] <wade> ok brb
[03:03] <dnivra> chelz, thanks.
[03:03] <kaiser10123> chelz: tveeprom               13882  1 cx23885
[03:03] <nvme> is it possible to dual boot ubuntu on a windows disk thats "Dynamic"
[03:05] <chelz> kaiser10123: your tuner card is   CX23885
[03:05] <jonbcc> chelz: do you know if this section's mention of "start end" is done with bytes? blocks? if I want to just say from the beginning to the end of the disk (since I have no idea, and it was only one partition) how do I specify the end?(by specifying the last possible byte? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#GNU%20Parted
[03:05] <UbuntuBoy> Question: The "search for files" app does not often give me the results I want if I make 1 minor error. Windows always would. Is there a better search app that I can use on ubuntu?
[03:06] <chelz> kaiser10123: so what program do you want to use? mythtv?
[03:06] <kaiser10123> chelz: tvtime or mythtv
[03:06] <chelz> jonbcc: i think there's a way to run parted just so it scans the entire dsk
[03:07] <chelz> kaiser10123: have you installed mythtv?
[03:07] <chelz> freazor: is firefox working?
[03:07] <jonbcc> chelz: oh, I didn't see that -- but I found my answer (you can specify %'s)
[03:07] <kaiser10123> chelz: yes
[03:07] <kaiser10123> chelz: that and tvtime only see my webcam as video in
[03:08] <chelz> kaiser10123: follow this: http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[03:08] <Crog> hello guys.. can someone give me a hand... having a hard time getting back into ubuntu
[03:08] <chelz> Crog: what happened?
[03:09] <EricTheHax> Ubuntu has the stuff so one can install grub manually, right? I had to reinstall Windows and it overwrote the mbr to use the Windows boot loader
[03:09] <Gnea> EricTheHax: yeah
[03:09] <Crog> system crashed.. so reset computer, now it goes to login screen and won't go any further.. just cycles login everytime i click on my user name
[03:09] <Gnea> !grub | EricTheHax
[03:09] <EricTheHax> wow common occurance? O_O
[03:10] <Gnea> heh yup
[03:10] <IdleOne> EricTheHax: common enough
[03:11] <nvme> is it possible to install ubuntu on a windows dynamic disk ?'
[03:12] <Crog> i go into recovery mode. type password, works ok there.. just won't accept it at log in screen.. tried changing password at prompt.. won't let me, gives me an error. But yet i can use su command and password works there? Anyone?
[03:12]  * Airris grumbles
[03:12] <Airris> The graphics card thing still isn't working out
[03:12] <wade> chelz: i can finally see but when i open display it still says;  It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?
[03:12] <sudobash> crog how about sudo passwd
[03:12] <jonbcc> gddrescue - I'm using it to copy everything off a 150GB drive before trying to recover anything... its like dd in that it requires an in file and an out file -- the file that gets spit out by the program doesn't care where it goes right? it can land in directory on a FAT32 drive?
[03:12] <Airris> As far as I can tell : X does a momentary black flash when the Nvidia prop drivers are switching what power setting the graphics card is at. Adaptive Clock throttling and all that
[03:13] <Airris> also, is 60-70 degrees C on a GPU hot for light activity?
[03:14] <wade> also Ubuntu seems to not be running as smooth anymore, a lot more choppy.
[03:14] <EricTheHax> people told me if i could successfully install gentoo (real or virtual machine), i wouldnt get this worried over something like this... weird how that didnt work out...
[03:14] <EricTheHax> (i did virtual)
[03:17] <Gnea> wade: what are your system stats?
[03:17] <Crog> anyone?
[03:18] <unique> to what chmod/chown should I setup a dir that its outside my ~ (homedir) but only to allow my user to access it
[03:18] <Gnea> Crog: if you make a new account on the commandline, can you login with it on the gui?
[03:18] <wade> gnea: how do i find out
[03:18] <wade> what's the command
[03:18] <Gnea> wade: well, basically what cpu and mem you have
[03:18] <unique> how my homedir can only be access by my user i want to do the same but for another dir, how do i do that?
[03:19] <Gnea> wade: but:  cat /proc/cpuinfo  and  free
[03:19] <Gnea> unique: sudo chmod 711 /home/userdir
[03:19] <Crog> i can create new user.. but can't seem to set passwd
[03:19] <wade> gnea: http://pastebin.com/WsFmTRfZ
[03:19] <Gnea> Crog: does it not give the option to?
[03:20] <hotxboy1S> what`s the newest Grub on Ubuntu?
[03:20] <hotxboy1S> >l
[03:20] <Gnea> !info grub
[03:20] <Crog> gives me an error when i try to set passwd.. either for new user or existing one
[03:20] <unique> Gnea: do i have to be root to do that? couze i am not
[03:20] <Gnea> !info grub2
[03:21] <hotxboy1S> how to config grub?
[03:21] <Gnea> Crog: you have to type the password correctly twice in a row
[03:21] <Gnea> !grub | hotxboy1S
[03:21] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: see the howto, it will tell you how
[03:21] <Crog> yeah, won't give me that option.. gives me an error
[03:21] <hotxboy1S> there is a interface I recalled when I have updated it.
[03:21] <Gnea> Crog: what's the error, exactly?
[03:21] <wade> gnea: http://pastebin.com/WsFmTRfZ
[03:22] <Crog> says passwd:system error
[03:22] <hotxboy1S> how to get into that interface, Gnea?
[03:22] <Crog> passwd: password not changed
[03:22] <Gnea> wade: saw that. what about the output of the 'free' command?
[03:22] <wade> also: http://pastebin.com/QWva9Z27
[03:22] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: I'm not sure what you mean by that...
[03:22] <hotxboy1S> Gnea: I mean Grub 2.
[03:23] <Gnea> wade: okay, looks like a p4 2ghz single-core with 2gigs of ram
[03:23] <wade> yup
[03:23] <Gnea> !grub2 | hotxboy1S
[03:23] <hotxboy1S> Thanks.
[03:23] <nvme> is it possible to install ubuntu on a windows dynamic disk ?'
[03:24] <kaiser10123> chelz: still stuck on getting linux to read my tv turner
[03:24] <Gnea> wade: one thing you can do is to right-click on the top panel-bar and add to the panel the system resource monitor
[03:24] <Gnea> wade: once it's there, right-click on it to open the main monitor and select the process list, then re-sort it by CPU usage. that will tell you what is slowing your system down.
[03:25] <wade> all the programs are at 0%
[03:26] <Gnea> nvme: ubuntu cannot be installed on NTFS, unless it's wubi
[03:26] <wade> it has to be something with my vid card did you see what me and chelz were talking about
[03:26] <hotxboy1S> what`s the version number of 9.10 Grub2 now?
[03:26] <hotxboy1S> 1.97 beta?
[03:26] <Gnea> wade: make sure you're viewing "programs by all users"
[03:26] <BitEncrypt> testing
[03:26] <Gnea> wade: if not by CPU, try by amount of memory
[03:27] <wade> dbus-launch taking up 248.0 KiB
[03:27] <hotxboy1S> Gnea: Can help me debug a system bug?
[03:28] <Gnea> wade: hm, what about the cpu history in the resources tab? is it pegged at the top or is it fluctuating?
[03:28]  * hitmonleezy is ?
[03:28] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: you can run this command to see what version of grub2 is installed: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep grub2
[03:28] <wade> its at the top
[03:29] <Gnea> wade: okay, so switch back to processes and resort the CPU % - what process shows up at the top and what number does it have?
[03:29] <Crog> whats proper way to add user from command prompt? won't let me put in password for new user? tells me right away that theres a system error and password is unchanged?
[03:29] <hotxboy1S> Gnea: hit dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep grub2 but nothing uotput.
[03:29] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: you're supposed to type that in a terminal.
[03:29] <wade> sytem monitor @ 10%
[03:30] <hotxboy1S> yes I did.
[03:30] <hotxboy1S> Gnea: I did in a terminal.
[03:30] <HHX> ?
[03:31] <hotxboy1S> laptop:~# dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep grub2root@austin-laptop:~#
[03:31] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: ok, yes, there should be some output.  try it like this then:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep grub2 | awk '{print $3}'
[03:31] <Crog> hum.. strange, if i type in passwd and hit enter without anything else.. it gives me passwd: System error passwd: password unchanged
[03:31] <Gnea> wade: and you clicked on View -> 'All Processes'?
[03:32] <HHX> newbie here. HOW  do i get a list of commands (aka, Help menu)?
[03:32] <hotxboy1S> Gnea: R U KIDDING? STILL NO OUTPUT.
[03:32] <Gnea> Crog: not strange, that's normal.
[03:32] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: gonna have to ask you calm down if you want anymore help.
[03:32] <hotxboy1S> # dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep grub2 | awk '{print $3}'
[03:32] <hotxboy1S> root@austin-laptop:~#
[03:32] <Crog> ok.. so its same message when i try to change password for a user?
[03:33] <wade> YUP
[03:33] <wade> *yup
[03:33] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: sorry, you typed that the same time I typed the new command.
[03:33] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: so, no, I'm not kidding, but try changing it from 'grub2' to 'grub'
[03:33] <hotxboy1S> grub-install -v
[03:33] <hotxboy1S> grub-install (GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4)
[03:34] <hotxboy1S> What`s that?
[03:34] <Gnea> like this:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep grub | awk '{print $3}'
[03:34] <hotxboy1S> what kind of grub I have installed?
[03:34] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: please run that command.
[03:34] <hotxboy1S> GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4
[03:35] <Gnea> that doesn't answer my question.
[03:35] <hotxboy1S> what`s this suppose to mean? I`m using Grub2?
[03:35] <Gnea> sorry, can't continue.
[03:35] <hotxboy1S> GNU GRUB 1.97~beta4
[03:35] <wade> idk why but ubuntu is just soo slow now.
[03:35] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: no no, I want the version number from dpkg, not from grub-install
[03:36] <sage_> http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1270089010489.jpg
[03:36] <Gnea> !ops | sage_ is posting kiddie porn
[03:37] <gnihT_ehT> O_O Who was that?
[03:37] <hotxboy1S> 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu5
[03:37] <hotxboy1S> 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu5
[03:37] <hotxboy1S>  Gnea this is it.
[03:37] <FloodBot2> hotxboy1S: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <wade> *sigh* brb
[03:38] <Amaranth> Don't click on that link folks
[03:38] <Amaranth> Who knows what it could be but considering where it's from it must be bad
[03:38] <hotxboy1S>  what`s this suppose to mean? I`m using Grub2?
[03:38] <gnihT_ehT> Amaranth: We can't click the pastebin link?
[03:38] <Gnea> hotxboy1S: yes.
[03:38] <Airris> hmm. I know it's hard to compare system loads between different operating systems, but should i be concerned if my GPU is running 58 C on windows and 60-70 C on ubuntu?
[03:38] <Amaranth> gnihT_ehT: No, the other one
[03:38] <gnihT_ehT> what other one?
[03:38] <Airris> in neither case is anything particularly intensive going on
[03:39] <Gnea> Amaranth: no need to mention it again.
[03:39] <Amaranth> gnihT_ehT: Nevermind
[03:39] <gnihT_ehT> PM it to me ;)
[03:39] <rww> gnihT_ehT: Drop it, please.
[03:40] <randomusr> hello
[03:41] <iflema> anyone able to search for a word (a letter even) in yelp? allways phrase not found? (press F1 when focus on the desktop and ctrl + f for find......)
[03:42] <babuy> Ex-Chat
[03:43] <Airris> to be more clear on where i'm going with this, the nvidia prop drivers are already acting a little funny on ubuntu, and i'm trying to find out if they're also not cooling it adequately
[03:44] <Crog> anyway to check if a password is set at root shell for a user? i created a user and want to make sure password is set
[03:44] <babuy> quit
[03:44] <babuy> QUIT
[03:45] <unkmar> Hmm, what file contains the magic cookie for X in Karmic Koala for the user?
[03:46] <smerz> hello everyone. Anybody here using Skype by anychance? I need to test 2 things. Shouldn't take long. (Need to test my Skype <-> SIP gateway)
[03:46] <coz_> anyone here try using tasksel  ?
[03:46] <hotxboy1S> DU
[03:47] <iflema> Crog passwd -S username displays the date set
[03:47] <Crog> thanks
[03:48] <Zenker> i know this is a little off topic but i was wondering if i can get a device that i can connect to using my wireless adapter (the one that i use 2 connect to the internet) to have video/sound on a tv, the tv only has coaxial cable connections, and if ubuntu 9.10 will support such device?
[03:49] <davebs1> Zenker: you mean you want to have a media pc connected to your tv and control it from another computer?
[03:49] <Zenker> davebs1 not exactly, to sum it up, i want 2 play movies from my puter on my tv :)
[03:50] <Zenker> but wirelessly
[03:50] <davebs1> yes and no?  You need something that can plug into your tv's video and audio inputs
[03:51] <sille777> I have a general question thats been bugging me for the past few days...
[03:51] <Zenker> yep, and i want the computer to connect to it wirelessly
[03:51] <davebs1> yeah, you can do that
[03:51] <davebs1> get an acer revo
[03:51] <davebs1> put xbmc live on it
[03:51] <Nucleus> I did buy a mini netbook " Toshiba NB 200-134, it camed with windows7, i've deleted the windows7 and i did install Ubuntu 9.10. The problem is that when i restart it tooks more then 20 min to start the system. The only thing i can do to the system start is pressing " Enter " a few times. I've tried to see videos on youtube but there is no sound coming out from the computer. The only sound i listen is when i connect the headphones.
[03:51] <davebs1> and setup shares for your movies on your file server
[03:51] <davebs1> and add them to xbmc, then stream them
[03:52] <davebs1> streaming is iffy on wireless, but for the most part it works
[03:52] <Nucleus> Can anyone help me with this problem because the mini netbook has 2 days
[03:52] <sille777> what will be done for the release names once they reach "Z"??
[03:52] <smerz> anybody using skype who can call me once to test something. No need to talk :) "Hello" will suffice :|
[03:52] <maginot> smerz, why don't you just use echo
[03:53] <Flannel> sille777: They'll probably wrap around to A, but we've got a few more years before we have to worry about that
[03:53] <Berzerker> smerz: Echo123
[03:53] <smerz> yeah well
[03:53] <smerz> echo can't call be back :(
[03:53] <smerz> there is no callback service for skype
[03:53] <greezmunkey> Arobic Aracnid?
[03:53] <Zenker> ahh thank you davebs1 guess i should just use a wired device,,that way its reliable, i just didnt want to be rooted by all those wires:)
[03:53] <smerz> echo works fine
[03:53] <smerz> i need someone to call me real quick :(
[03:53] <Zenker> smerz real quick rofl
[03:53] <smerz> yeah. enter a nick. dial
[03:53] <smerz> if it arrives i know it works
[03:54] <smerz> doesn't take long :(
[03:54] <maginot> smerz, just make a second acount and test...
[03:54] <smerz> cannot login from same ip
[03:54] <smerz> dont have access to another one
[03:54] <smerz> but forget about it
[03:54] <calmire> hi, guys. I'm trying to add an update repository for firefox, but the server says it doesn't have the requested key, like this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/5DcuFuS4 .   Could you give me a hand to find out how to solve this ?
[03:54] <maginot> sure you can login from the same ip, if you don't how corporative networks uses skype?
[03:54] <Zenker> smerz i will but ull have 2 explain what u need me 2 do
[03:55] <l3lackwood> Hello! If i update to Lucid Alpha 3 with update-manager -d and then keep applying updates with update manager, will I have the same thing on release day as installing Lucid, or will I update-manager -d again at that time, and get a whole bunch more updates?
[03:55] <smerz> look for "smerz1" and dial
[03:55] <smerz> thats all
[03:55] <smerz> maginot, i did try that indeed from a vmware running windows
[03:55] <davebs1> I've turned off sleep on my computers through power options, but when I come home, one of them is always asleep.  It's important that they not go to sleep because they are connected through synergy+ (control 2 computers & 2 monitors with 1 keyboard/mouse through software).  Any idea how I can tell my computers to not go to sleep or power down or hibernate or anything along those lines?
[03:55] <Airris> Ok i finished my testing, and yea. I can't use Ubuntu until I resolve this. During light activity the GPU core temp on linux goes between 60-70 just for light activity. On windows it will stay around 58 typically even during heavy 3D rendering, it sometimes goes to 61 but that's only if the fans haven't kicked in
[03:55] <rww> l3lackwood: you'll have the same thing.
[03:56] <rww> l3lackwood: Lucid discussion and support goes in #ubuntu+1, btw.
[03:56] <ARCHAN> Hello
[03:56] <maginot> hi
[03:56] <Airris> Something isn't doing the cooling right here. And this particular graphics card model has a history of melting, so the combination of these two is quite bad
[03:56] <ARCHAN> where is the Xfix in recovery mode ?
[03:57] <maginot> smerz, pvt me with your screen name and I give you a quick call if that is the problem
[03:57] <Zenker> i see smerz but not smerz1
[03:57] <maginot> oh, already got a volunteer.. =)
[03:57] <smerz> hmm my login is smerz1 . As name I entered "Heinz Otto" :-|
[03:57] <smerz> i dont know what skype goes by
[03:58] <ARCHAN> my screen resolution got changed auto.. now how i cant reset it.. i want to  XFIX in recovery mode like in previous versions of ubuntu.. anyone got a idea ?
[03:58] <ARCHAN> *an idea ?
[03:58] <l3lackwood> rww so on release day will update-manager-d show a version update available? there would be nothing much there besides changing signage for the help menu and such...  Do I essentially keep synched with the daily build by doing this?
[03:58] <l3lackwood> rww thanks BTW
[03:58] <smerz> maginot, Zenker didn't realise i was talking about skype :|
[03:59] <rww> l3lackwood: Once you upgrade to Lucid, you'll be on Lucid. If you continue doing regular updates through the development cycle, you'll be on Lucid final when it comes out.
[03:59] <stevecam> im getting a problem where i have to kill the main focused window in X cas the windowing system basicly hangs, is this a common problem?
[03:59] <rww> l3lackwood: you might want to check in #ubuntu+1 before starting this, btw, they were having some issues with upgrades the other day and I don't know if they've been resolved.
[03:59] <smerz> maginot, thanks. It didn't work
[03:59] <smerz> many thanks
[03:59] <l3lackwood> rww thanks, now I'll find out where and  ubuntu+1 is.  first time here
[03:59] <davebs1> stevecam: could you explain more?
[04:00] <maginot> smerz, I didn't call.. just requested to be added
[04:00] <smerz> ah
[04:00] <smerz> hehe
[04:00] <rww> l3lackwood: type this in the same place you're typing messages: /join #ubuntu+1
[04:00] <stevecam> davebs1, what sort of things would you like me to explain?
[04:00] <Airris> anyone know anything helpful about this? I was holding off on the nouveau drivers since I have to get a newer version of X to run em
[04:00] <l3lackwood> rww many thanks, will I still be here?
[04:00] <maginot> smerz, I have no microphone here, but I could hear your
[04:00] <maginot> *you
[04:00] <rww> l3lackwood: yes
[04:00] <stevecam> its happened in opera, and rhythmbox, i dont think it is the apps
[04:00] <ARCHAN>  my screen resolution got changed auto.. now how i cant reset it.. i want to  XFIX in recovery mode like in previous versions of ubuntu.. anyone got a idea ?
[04:00] <Zenker> smerz if u wait a few mins while i switch 2 windows n install skype ill still do it ive always wanted 2 play around w skype anyhow :)
[04:01] <smerz> Maginot thanks very much. My skype to sip gateway works superb :)
[04:01] <davebs1> stevecam: I don't think it's a common problem, but could you give a specific example?
[04:01] <smerz> Zenker, thanks very much. Maginot was so kind to quickly to call me :)
[04:01] <maginot> smerz, Hmm are you working with TLS too ?
[04:01] <smerz> TLS?
[04:01] <Zenker> smerz ahh ok kewl, is there skype for ubuntu?
[04:01] <smerz> Zenker yes. Skype for ubuntu works outstanding
[04:01] <maginot> smerz, never mind, just thought you were working with something similar them some of my fellows
[04:02] <Zenker> where do i get it?
[04:02] <stevecam> davebs1, i was in opera, and then i try and do something the majority of the graphical interface starts hanging, you might get little interaction like moving your mouse over a text box might change it
[04:02] <smerz> you can download an ubuntu package @ skype.com BUT there is no need to call me. Maginot called me to test my setup here. So no need to help me out :) But many thanks
[04:02] <l3lackwood> rww thanks got it now!
[04:02] <stevecam> and then it happened again in rhythmbox
[04:02] <Zenker> ahh nvm i just found it
[04:02] <tien> i want help about joomla. who can help me
[04:02] <davebs1> stevecam:  Do you have conky by any chance?  What's the rest of the system doing at this point?  CPU, RAM, disk read/write, etc?
[04:03] <davebs1> stevecam: and what about processes as far as cpu and mem usage
[04:03] <ARCHAN> how do i fix my GUI without xfix in REcovery mode ?? is there any way ? is it possible or total reinstall of koala ?
[04:03] <tien> i wan mod video hwdvideo for ubuntu
[04:03] <smerz> So if anybody want's to setup an Skype to SIP gateway now using ubuntu ask me now :-----)
[04:04] <maginot> smerz, I was working on something different, using zrtp.. but not directly with skype
[04:04] <stevecam> davebs1, not much, i dont have conky, everything else i have running in console seems to be running with no slowdown so i didnt think that it was stuck in some sort of loop
[04:04] <Zenker> smerz its says for ubuntu 8.10 will this work just as good for 9.10?
[04:04] <maginot> smerz, was a project to implement on asterisk
[04:04] <smerz> yes
[04:04] <ScottG489> Hey, I am on an ubuntu live CD and I need to get the name for the broadcom's proprietary STA driver so I can modprobe it. Doing it through the GUI requires a restart and on a live CD that won't work (this also seems like a bug to me)
[04:04] <greezmunkey> smerz: did you build the sip gw?
[04:04] <DarkVoid82> I dual boot my laptop, and recently when the dual boot screen pops up i have three different selections for ubuntu (i think maybe 3 versions of the kernel?) how do i get rid of the 2 oldest ones
[04:04] <smerz> maginot, skype-ubuntu-intrepid_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_amd64.deb worked for me. So the intrepid packages are good for jaunty too
[04:05] <smerz> greezmunkey, yes Skype to SIP and SIP to Skype
[04:05] <iflema> ScottG489 modprobe -r ssb b43 wl && modeprobe wl
[04:05] <greezmunkey> smerz: nice.
[04:05] <smerz> greezmunkey, but I haven't configured it as a background service yet
[04:05] <ScottG489> iflema: alright
[04:05] <ARCHAN> HOW DO I FIX MY GUI WITHOUT XFIX OPTION IN RECOVERY MODE ??..  i always got this problem in my previous ubuntu jaunty but xfix fixed it.... now it.s not there.. now how do i fix it ?
[04:05] <davebs1> stevecam: I'd suggest setting up conky to monitor cpu usage, ram, disk i/o and top 5 processes in terms of memory and cpu intensity.  When things take a dump, you will be able to see what processes are screwing up and will be able to work from there
[04:05] <smerz> need to put it onto the local server. So I all skype calls just come through on my hardware SIP phone :-D
[04:06] <ScottG489> iflema: It's required to remove those other ones for wl to work?
[04:06] <davebs1> I've turned off sleep on my computers through power options, but when I come home, one of them is always asleep.  It's important that they not go to sleep because they are connected through synergy+ (control 2 computers & 2 monitors with 1 keyboard/mouse through software).  Any idea how I can tell my computers to not go to sleep or power down or hibernate or anything along those lines?
[04:06] <smerz> ARCHAN, I dunno sorry. Graphical modes and me are not compatible yet. Alas I have not much understanding of it
[04:06] <greezmunkey> smerz: I have a laptop I'll be building a gate out of, for demos.
[04:07] <iflema> ScottG489 yep.... sudo before ofcourse
[04:07] <smerz> greezmunkey, well "siptosis" is what you want :) You can integrate it into PBX etc :)
[04:07] <ARCHAN> DarkVoid82, install start up manager ... and choose the options to be displayed...
[04:07] <stevecam> davebs1, i really don't think my resouces are getting used
[04:07] <ARCHAN> smerz, !
[04:07] <stevecam> its just not doing anything
[04:07] <DarkVoid82> archan: thank you i'll give that a try
[04:07] <Zenker> ohh this is cool !!
[04:08] <ARCHAN> DarkVoid82, sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[04:08] <Crog> k, this is going from bad to worse.. tried del user, and re-adding user.. won't take passwords.. looks like a re-install is due.. sucks
[04:08] <smerz> Zenker, you just called me? -_-
[04:08] <Zenker> smerz oh thats cool
[04:08] <Zenker> 2bad i dont have a mic rofl
[04:08] <smerz> hehe
[04:08] <smerz> thanks for the calls folks :P
[04:09] <DarkVoid82> archan: ok thanks, i'll do that
[04:09] <iflema> ScottG489  sorry.... the ssb and b43 are the kernel drivers minus the firmware..... remove them first then load wl
[04:09] <davebs1> stevecam: How long ago did you install ubuntu?  Did you make any changes to x?  When did this start happening?  What kind of hardware?  How old?  Compiz?  Graphics Drivers?...
[04:10] <ScottG489> iflema: Alright works. I am very impressed with this as a Live DVD. Even firefox has java set up and ready to go which my schools network unfortunately requires
[04:10] <l3lackwood> rmm is that the same as doing updates in synaptic?
[04:10] <stevecam> i installed it ages (over 1 year ago) im gonna reinstall soon but i was just wondering if it sounded like a familiar problem
[04:10] <ARCHAN>  HOW DO I FIX MY GUI WITHOUT XFIX OPTION IN RECOVERY MODE ??..  i always got this problem in my previous ubuntu jaunty but xfix fixed it.... now it.s not there.. now how do i fix it ?
[04:11] <smerz> ARCHAN silly question but what happens when you dont boot in recovery mode?
[04:11] <maginot> ARCHAN, dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg may help you
[04:12] <ScottG489> iflema: That is a bug though, correct? On a live CD it shouldn't require a restart. It should modprobe the required drivers.
[04:12] <ARCHAN> smerz, i usually have (had?) 1440*900 reso./. now i get 640* and everything is BLUEWHALE sized and my eyes pain
[04:13] <paddy1> hi..
[04:13] <smerz> ARCHAN and i suppose you can't configure it to a normal resolution when not in recovery mode. Though the color issue you desrcibe does sound strange.
[04:14] <ARCHAN> smerz, COLOR ISSUE ???!! when did i say that ?
[04:14] <paddy1> please tell me how to start video chat... in ubuntu 9.04
[04:14] <Airris> do I have to yell too? I'm used to things being busy but I've asked three times and haven't gotten even an acknowledgment that I said something : Ubuntu using proprietary nvidia drivers causes X to periodically flash black for a brief second. And according to the tempature setting the GPU's running 5-10 degrees (Cel) hotter than I can get it to run in windows even under the most strenuous...
[04:14] <Airris> ...situations
[04:14] <ARCHAN> smerz, Resolutions
[04:14] <ARCHAN> maginot, i missed your reply// now to try it.
[04:14] <smerz> ARCHAN ah ok i misunderstood the "bluewhale" comment there :)
[04:15] <austin> how do i change the GDM login screen in ubuntu 9.10
[04:15] <ARCHAN> smerz, i tried to make you understand the SIZE of every in my monitor
[04:15] <maginot> austin, gdm theme ? gdm-setup I think
[04:15] <ARCHAN> smerz, :P sorry
[04:15] <smerz> ARCHAN i understood you now ;-)
[04:16] <smerz> ARCHAN could you post /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:16] <ARCHAN> smerz, i am going to try maginot
[04:16] <ARCHAN> smerz, brb
[04:17] <austin> i need the one where i can change the themes when i login
[04:18] <warkomp_> ???
[04:19] <DarkVoid82> ok i have the startup manager, but how can i get rid of the extra ubuntu choices that pop up when i start up my laptop
[04:21] <sadrolla> i have a smartlink modem , i installed driver in repo but this modoom what /dev/?
[04:22] <smerz> i didn't use linux when modems were around sry :|
[04:22] <root____1> Hi maginot . i am archan. i am using Irssi from NETROOT option in recovery.. your command didnt seem to work ?
[04:22] <DarkVoid82> archan?
[04:22] <Orin> 'Evening.
[04:22] <root____1> DarkVoid82: yes. i am Archan. what ?
[04:23] <zhouyu> i compiled a program... already installed the build-essential... but got the error Checking for header sys/event.h          : not found , anyone know how to fix this ?
[04:23] <smerz> root____1, does it work on a live cd? Maybe the easiest thing would be a reinstall? :(
[04:23] <root____1> DarkVoid82: if you use karmic , then startupmanager won't show the options .. you have to do it manually.
[04:23] <DarkVoid82> ok i got startup manager but i don't see where i can get rid of the two extra ubuntu choices.
[04:23] <sadrolla> i have a smartlink modem , i installed driver in repo but this modoom what /dev/?
[04:23] <DarkVoid82> archan: ok how do i do it manually?
[04:24] <maginot> root____1, so just ran X -configure and copy the newly generated xorg.conf.new on your directory to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <iflema> ScottG489 it would save a restart ;)
[04:24] <smerz> sadrolla, /dev/ is sort of the address to a device. Could be /dev/modem
[04:25] <root____1> DarkVoid82: sorry. i don't know. ask other members here. but in legacy grub it is just inserting a hash before the unwanted entries.. but no idea with grub 2..... ask here or on the ubuntuforums
[04:25] <DarkVoid82> archan: ok thanks tho
[04:26] <root____1> DarkVoid82: but how do the extra options bother you ? :P leave it, download some movies isntead of splitting your brain with manual methods :P :P :P
[04:26] <Airris> anyone? : Ubuntu using prop nvidia drivers causes X to periodically flash black for a brief second. And the GPU's running 5-10 degrees (Cel) hotter than I can get it to run in windows under any condition. There a way to fix this, or perhaps are the nouveau drivers worth trying out? I was kinda hoping for getting the prop drivers to work since I need to do 3D openGL stuff.  I need kinda some...
[04:26] <Airris> ...kind of solution since I don't have time to try every possible option : in the sense that this risks messing up my graphics card if I leave the computer on too long
[04:26] <root____1> DarkVoid82: :P sorry , though
[04:26] <root____1> maginot: i am no expert.. i don't understand
[04:27] <Orin> Would anyone mind assisting with a bit of an issue? I just installed 9.10 and when it goes into the logon screen, while loading, with the little white scrolling bit, my monitor will turn on for 2 seconds, then turn off and tell me there's no signal.
[04:27] <root____1> maginot: the command you gave (previously) didnt work
[04:27] <Orin> This it will do forever and not load at all.. :(
[04:27] <DarkVoid82> archan: it doesn't bother me per se, but i'd like to get rid of the extra choices :P:P:P and still have to figure out how to mount my dvdrom drive so i can watch movies
[04:27] <Orin> Just keeps flashing.
[04:27] <Airris> Orin, to clarify : is this before or after you see the option to log in
[04:27] <Orin> Before.
[04:27] <Airris> or do you just see the loading screen right before that
[04:28] <Orin> Loading screen just before it.
[04:28] <Airris> I'm having this problem on one of my other linux computers
[04:28] <Gelfling> okay here's a dumb question, how do you change your computers name? lol
[04:28] <Airris> try this out : hold shift during boot to get to grub
[04:28] <Airris> boot into recovery mode
[04:28] <Airris> then tell it to do normal boot, you'll be able to log in to a commandline version
[04:28] <Airris> from there, type 'startx'
[04:28] <root____1> DarkVoid82: are you new to ubuntu ?? configure mouting dvd rom ??  i just insert and it works for me. ! !!
[04:28] <maginot> root____1, which command, X -configure ? sure it does...
[04:29] <Airris> It's a bit of a circular solution, but i haven't been able to figure out what causes that problem
[04:29] <Airris> so at the very least you might have a way to log in
[04:29] <Airris> this is assuming you're having the same issue
[04:29] <root____1> maginot: sorry, but you can you give me it again.. plz
[04:29] <DarkVoid82> archan: yes i'm new :S, and it doesn't run when i put a disk in
[04:29] <root____1> Gelfling: ubuntu tweak !
[04:29] <Gelfling> hmm?
[04:29] <Airris> Orin : oh : is your graphics card an onboard chip or something else that's a sufficiently non-common piece of hardware?
[04:29] <sadrolla> smerz: tnx , but pppconfig says  ... unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[04:30] <Orin> On-board.
[04:30] <root____1> Gelfling: ! ?
[04:30] <Gelfling> nm i figured it out
[04:30] <Gelfling> editing hostname
[04:30] <iflema> Gelfling in a termainal you could use sudo hostname followed by the name.....
[04:30] <Gelfling> it was so simple i got lost =P
[04:30] <Airris> Ah yea. I think you have the same issue
[04:30] <Airris> whatever it is
[04:31] <maginot> root____1, X -configure, X not x ... and after that you will find in the directory a file called xorg.conf.new just copy it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:31] <Airris> Orin : do that sequence i said. It should work. For me it also will allow the computer to boot normally the next couple times before reverting to being screwy
[04:32] <Airris> Btw : can anyone read up and solve Orin's problem? I have no clue what's going on with that, but it was bothering me too a while back (I have a couple linux computers, and that's the current problem on *that* one. The question I keep asking tonight is for my laptop)
[04:32] <Orin> Airris, thanks. That worked...
[04:32] <Airris> Strange, huh?
[04:32] <Orin> Indeed...
[04:32] <root____1> maginot: brb
[04:33] <Airris> I think the bootup sequence doesn't like reading some of the onboard graphics chipsets
[04:33] <root____1> maginot: btw, how do i exist irrsi ? first time using irssi !!
[04:33] <Airris> and starting X manually gives it a better shot of working
[04:33] <root____1> exit
[04:33] <maginot> root____1, /quit ?
[04:34] <Orin> That's definitely a bit of a pain, but on the bright side - it's an added level of security. :D
[04:34] <Airris> lol
[04:34] <Orin> Thanks a lot, mate.
[04:34] <Ghost|BTFH> Undocumented feature?
[04:34] <Daskreech> hello
[04:34] <Airris> Orin : I keep a post-it note on that particular tower with instructions on how to boot it :P
[04:35] <Airris> It'd be nice to find out what the hell is going on with that. For me it actually flashes an error message before refusing to boot normally, but it's up there for like 0.5 seconds so I can't really see what's going on
[04:35] <Daskreech> Can I use wireless from the live CD?
[04:35] <Orin> Pfah! Most my roomies have an allergy to computers, aside from WoW, so they'll never need to know.
[04:35] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Can you use Pause/Break button to freeze it for a bit so you could read the error?
[04:36] <Airris> Ghost|BTFH: unless my reflexes become super-human, probably not
[04:36] <Airris> It's literally up there for an instant
[04:36] <Airris> before the screen goes blank
[04:36] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: I've done it before with really speedy errors like that...takes a little timing but you can get 'em after awhile.
[04:37] <Ghost|BTFH> Ugh, I have *got* to do something about this chat format...this is the ugliest damned thing in the world.
[04:37] <Ghost|BTFH> brb.
[04:37] <Airris> Ghost|BTFH: the other problem is it doesn't happen consistently. Like it happens enough to be a problem but not on every boot. So usually when I try to do any kind of thing to probe for this error, the computer plays nice
[04:37] <Airris> :P
[04:37] <Daskreech> I got a note that I had restrcted drivers
[04:37] <Ghost|BTFH> Yes, they have a habit of trying to hide when you're ready for 'em.
[04:37] <Airris> but Orin! Thanks a lot. At first i thought it was the particular computer's fault
[04:38] <Airris> since that tower was a conglomeration of salavaged parts
[04:38] <Airris> but unless your computer is also of that nature, I don't think that's the reason
[04:38] <Daskreech>  I got the broadcom drivers but I still can't see the wireless
[04:38] <Ghost|BTFH> omg, that's better.
[04:38] <Led-Hed> anyone here good with atftpd?  I cant get it to start.
[04:39] <Ghost|BTFH> Don't switch Empathy to "blue" for it's theme.
[04:39]  * Ghost|BTFH shudders
[04:39] <Airris> but yea Ghost, i was wondering if there's some logfile for the boot messages i could enable
[04:39] <Airris> that way i could just turn that on and wait.
[04:39] <danx> I'm trying to keep X from running at boot; I have run "update-rc.d -f gdm remove"; gdm has been deleted from all rcn.d/ but gdm still starts at boot; what symlinks from rcn.d's do I have to remove to keep X from booting?
[04:39] <Airris> the error would have to come up eventually :P
[04:39] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Is it BIOS based error or Ubuntu based?
[04:39] <iflema> !broadcom | Daskreech
[04:40] <Airris> Ghost|BTFH: I think it'd be Ubuntu, since it gets past BIOS and fails during Ubuntu trying to load
[04:40] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: So you hear the system beep, then the error?
[04:41] <Airris> no, i don't think there's a beep : oh hey what the hell lets try and boot this computer now and see what happens
[04:41] <Airris> it sits right next to my desk as a secondary
[04:41] <Airris> watch it boot up without issue : but it's worth a try
[04:41] <babuy> \list
[04:41] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: If there's an error, THEN the beep later, that's BIOS.  If it gives you it's happy beep and then the error, that's OS.
[04:41] <usr32432> join #linux
[04:41] <babuy> \LIST
[04:42]  * Ghost|BTFH hands babuy a /
[04:42] <iflema> !list | babuy
[04:42] <Airris> Ghost|BTFH: lets assume it's Ubuntu-based, what kind of logging would i have to turn on to catch it? The last time i asked about this someone told me to turn a logging option on, but that thing has to be enabled each boot : which is a problem when the problem occurs before the system's booted up :P
[04:43] <Daskreech> iflema, http://paste.ubuntu.com/407396/
[04:43] <winXPuser> what is the line I should write in Terminal to install latest stable Firefox?
[04:43] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles should have all the information you need about logs (And were afraid to ask)
[04:44] <Ghost|BTFH> Although it *might* be a grub issue (although I doubt it, grub is usually very loud and proud about it's issues)
[04:45] <Shazzypants> i totally broke GIMP
[04:45] <Shazzypants> it won't work
[04:45] <Shazzypants> at all
[04:45] <Ghost|BTFH> Shazzypants: 'grats, that is not easy to do at all.
[04:45] <Airris> I'm thinking it's not a grub issue either
[04:45] <Airris> since if it was grub, why would the alternate work-around through recovery mode work?
[04:45] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: I'm guessing it's probably kernel then.
[04:45] <Shazzypants> Ghost|BTFH, is that sarcasm I see?
[04:45] <Shazzypants> well, I started compiling one of the new ones
[04:46] <Ghost|BTFH> Shazzypants: No, quite honestly - It's pretty damned hard to break gimp.
[04:46] <Ghost|BTFH> I use it daily.
[04:46] <Shazzypants> well I broke it
[04:46] <Ghost|BTFH> Shazzypants: So, how did you unlock this achievement?
[04:46] <Shazzypants> nvm I play video games
[04:46] <Shazzypants> compile fail
[04:46] <Shazzypants> and then I tried to apt-get it instead
[04:46] <Shazzypants> and now just broken
[04:46] <iflema> Daskreech im assuming you have looked at the hardware drivers under the desktop menu System / Administration / Hardware Driver.....
[04:46] <Shazzypants> everything
[04:46] <usr32432> wrooooooooooooooooom
[04:46] <Shazzypants> but I'm going to play video games
[04:46] <Shazzypants> -->
[04:46] <FloodBot2> Shazzypants: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <Shazzypants> I don't like you FloodBot2
[04:47] <danx> Shazzypants: reinstall it; sudo apt-get remove gimp then sudo apt-get install gimp
[04:47] <Daskreech> iflema, Says that it's running
[04:47] <Shazzypants> danx, that does not work
[04:47] <Ghost|BTFH> Shazzypants: Ooooo...yeah, yeah...sounds like you have stuff crossed over.
[04:47] <Shazzypants> also you can just do 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gimp'
[04:47] <danx> Shazzypants: try sudo apt-get purge gimp, then install gimp
[04:47] <Shazzypants> I did that too
[04:47] <Shazzypants> it did not work
[04:47] <Ghost|BTFH> Shazzypants: Here's a wild idea, also make sure you delete .gimp
[04:48] <Ghost|BTFH> From your home directory
[04:48] <Shazzypants> I should do that
[04:48] <danx> Shazzypants: run gimp from terminal and pastebin the errors
[04:48] <Ghost|BTFH> You should do that.
[04:48] <usr32432> i dont have home directory
[04:48] <NathanBdot> Hey how do I check to see if I'm running Compiz?
[04:48] <Shazzypants> danx, I already did that I believe
[04:48] <Daskreech> iflema, It says activated and currently in use
[04:48] <Shazzypants> oh no I didn't
[04:48] <danx> Shazzypants: pastebin the errors.
[04:48] <Shazzypants> gimp: error while loading shared libraries: libgegl-0.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:48] <Shazzypants> that's it
[04:48] <Shazzypants> but that's installed
[04:48] <Shazzypants> I know this
[04:48] <msdos> wrooooooooooooooooooooooom
[04:48] <FloodBot2> Shazzypants: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <Shazzypants> because I installed it
[04:48] <danx> Shazzypants: reinstall libgegl
[04:49] <Ghost|BTFH> NathanBdot: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects tab.
[04:49] <Myrtti> msdos: do you have an Ubuntu Support question?
[04:49] <msdos> sure
[04:49] <Guest47186> should i use msdos or linux?
[04:49] <NathanBdot> Ghost|BTFH, Ok so if my windows are wobbly, then it's on right?
[04:49] <danx> Guest47186: do you have a Ubuntu Support question?
[04:50] <Guest47186> ubuntu? no i have zubuntu
[04:50] <Guest47186> mudubuntu too
[04:50] <Shazzypants> danx, yeah done
[04:50] <Shazzypants> it didn't do anything
[04:50] <Shazzypants> I'm going to purge
[04:50] <Ghost|BTFH> Guest47186: Well, linux is generally for smart people, or at least people who've developed opposable thumbs and know how to use them on a mouse...msdos...hmmm...not really supported anymore...but good for stupid people...tough call...
[04:50] <Shazzypants> and remove .gimp
[04:50] <FloodBot2> Shazzypants: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <Myrtti> Guest47186: if you want to chat, please pick some other channel. This is for Ubuntu support only, not random chatting
[04:50] <Ghost|BTFH> NathanBdot: Exactly. :)
[04:50] <Shazzypants> that's the only thing I haven't tried yet so far that anyone has said here
[04:51] <NathanBdot> Ghost|BTFH, thanks :)
[04:51] <Airris> hmm, ok I'm going to remember that page with the logs
[04:51] <Ghost|BTFH> Shazzypants: And deleting .gimp.
[04:51] <Airris> i think the logs don't go far back enough to catch the last error
[04:51] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Hope it helps.
[04:51] <Airris> but thanks Ghost, this will probably bring light to the problem eventually :)
[04:51] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: You could always keep turning it on and off until the PSU fries...then you'll KNOW there's an error that needs to be fixed.
[04:51] <sadrolla> i use this coomand sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon it says try to install the package sl-modem-modules-2.6.28-11-generic , but pack not is in repo
[04:52] <danx> Shazzypants: pruge is supposed to delete .gimp directory I believe; gimp complains about libgegl not being able to load, you should fix the libgegl problem; find where the .so file fro libgegl is
[04:52] <Shazzypants> yeah it did
[04:52] <Shazzypants> okay
[04:52] <Airris> lol I could. hey lets go for it!
[04:52] <Shazzypants> I'm going to go play video games
[04:52] <Shazzypants> sorry I didn't mean to start people trying to help then leave
[04:52] <Shazzypants> but that's what I'm going to do....
[04:52] <theadmin> Hello... where did that counter go anyway?
[04:53] <danx> I'm trying to keep X from running at boot; I have run "update-rc.d -f gdm remove"; gdm has been deleted from all rcn.d/ but gdm still starts at boot; what symlinks from rcn.d's do I have to remove to keep X from booting?
[04:53] <Ghost|BTFH> Shazzypants: Eh, it's all about priorities.
[04:53] <Airris> ok : back to the question i originally came in here for, now that Orin's thing is taken care of
[04:53] <Airris> anyone? : Ubuntu using prop nvidia drivers causes X to periodically flash black for a brief second. And the GPU's running 5-10 degrees (Cel) hotter than I can get it to run in windows under any condition. There a way to fix this, or perhaps are the nouveau drivers worth trying out? I was kinda hoping for getting the prop drivers to work since I need to do 3D openGL stuff. I need kinda some...
[04:53] <Airris> ...kind of solution since I don't have time to try every possible option : in the sense that this risks messing up my graphics card if I leave the computer on too long
[04:54] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: So by prop drivers, you mean you're using the drivers directly from nvidia or the ones in ubuntu?
[04:54] <Airris> the ones from Nvidia
[04:54] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Good show.  I'd check your settings then.
[04:54] <danx> Airris: nouveau drivers will come in 10.04; if you are using 10.04 beta, go to #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <Airris> danx nope this is 9.10
[04:55] <mudududubuntu> no its 5:55 here
[04:55] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Check your powermizer settings.
[04:56] <Ghost|BTFH> Oh wait...
[04:56] <Ghost|BTFH> Do you have Compiz running?
[04:56] <Airris> It doesn't let me edit anything, but i find it disconcerning that it says
[04:56] <Airris> Compiz?
[04:56] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Did you install Ubuntu and not alter anything?
[04:56] <danx> Airris: 9.10 kernel doesn't have nouveau drivers; have you tried the drivers in 'restricted' repo? (the ones you install with jockey)
[04:56] <Airris> danx : yea, although on recommendation from this channel i installed the drivers using synaptic
[04:57] <zealiod> how do i stop udev renaming my ethernet ports?
[04:57] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Go into System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects tab.
[04:57] <Airris> Ghost : define not altering, I've installed some packages, but nothing that should seriously effect the kernal
[04:57] <theadmin> zealiod: Why would it do that? o_O mine has always been eth0
[04:57] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Is it set for "Normal"?
[04:57] <Airris> yep
[04:57] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Turn it to "None"
[04:58] <Airris> oh, right : that sentence i was going to finish
[04:58] <MatthewH12> Quick question (yes ive googled), anyone gotten GMA500 to work with 10.04?
[04:58] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Your GPU temp will drop.
[04:58] <Ghost|BTFH> MatthewH12: Try #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <Airris> Is it bad that in powermizer, the temp it's supposed to throttle things at is set to 0?
[04:58] <Airris> what's it called, Shutdown Threshold or something
[04:58] <MatthewH12> ty Ghost|BTFH
[04:58] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Meh, mine shows the same thing.  I have zero issues.
[04:58] <winXPuser> how do I install stable firefox? what terminal command should I run? (sorry for my internet connection)
[04:59] <NathanBdot> winXPuser, Firefox should already be installed if you're running Ubuntu
[04:59] <Airris> Ghost|BTFH : that might help the issue, but I think this is something more serious. light activity should NOT get the GPU hotter than it gets on windows when I'm doing 3D graphics rendering
[04:59] <danx> winXPuser: firefox stable version comes installed in Ubuntu by default.
[04:59] <winXPuser> NathanBdot: suppose I uninstalled it, what should I run then?
[05:00] <NathanBdot> just open the "Ubuntu Software Center" and search "Firefox"
[05:00] <winXPuser> no, in Terminal
[05:00] <Airris> it hits 65-70 running midori and viewing a PDF
[05:00] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Well, give it a bit and check it.
[05:00] <theadmin> winXPuser: do "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[05:00] <NathanBdot> if you want to use terminal probably: sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:00] <winXPuser> theadmin: ok thanks
[05:00] <wastrel> ubuntu
[05:00] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Because it *might* just be the issue.  I know on some older cards, Compiz shoves it into a corner and makes it cry.
[05:00] <NathanBdot> theadmin, aw! you beat me to it
[05:01] <theadmin> NathanBdot: Well, happends sometimes :P
[05:01] <Airris> I'll try, but hmm
[05:01] <NathanBdot> ;)
[05:01] <Airris> would Compiz be interfering with the fan turning on? :P
[05:01] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: I had to turn it off on my wife's laptop because it was cookin' the vid card.
[05:01] <theadmin> Grah, i just mounted my external drive and now everything is slow as a turtle, what the heck?!
[05:01] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: No, but a bad wire could do that... :P
[05:01] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Or a wire in an inappropriate location...
[05:02] <Airris> well luckily the merits of a dual-boot : the hardware is probably ok since it functions all nice in windows
[05:02] <Airris> I can have the GPU running at full load and it'll stay at a cool 58 degrees :D
[05:02] <Airris> ok that's actually 125 or something in F, so maybe "cool" is relative
[05:02] <NathanBdot> Hey how do I enable dragging windows between workspaces?
[05:02] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: Well, if it works in Windoze and doesn't in 'nix, then the drivers would be the primary suspect on that...there's a setting being changed in 'doze that's not being done in 'nix.
[05:02] <Airris> yea.
[05:03] <albech> i am looking for a free sawmill alternative, can anyone recommend a good general purpose log parser?
[05:03] <blakkheim> albech: grep
[05:03] <theadmin> NathanBdot: You can do that defaultly methinks. Just drag them in that applet (there are "windows" there, drag those.
[05:03] <albech> blakkheim: i am not going to write my own
[05:03] <danx> Airris: No, Compiz don't affect to that level; it only eats some VRAM and few process power; if you installed the driver from nvidia site adjust the settings with its GUI (I think is under system-admin) use the same settings you use on windows, lowering the frequency may help the flickering
[05:04] <theadmin> danx: "some"? It eats a ton of memory.
[05:04] <Airris> danx : it doesn't let me adjust anything, i did some research and apparently this is an acknowledge flaw of the drivers for linux
[05:04] <NathanBdot> theadmin, I should be able to drag them to the edge of the screen by default, but it's not working...
[05:04] <Airris> you have do it manually or some such
[05:04] <Airris> well i mean it doesn't let you adjust important things like the powermizer settings
[05:04] <danx> theadmin: it's not THAT bad, firefox eats like 5x more :P
[05:04] <theadmin> danx: Uh, really?... somehow MINE firefox eats nearly nothing :/
[05:05] <Airris> I've fallen in love with the midori browser but that's another story
[05:05] <papul> hi i want a good video encoder
[05:05] <NathanBdot> theadmin, I can't drag anything to my space-switcher either...
[05:05] <papul> Avidemux doesnt use both my cores efficiently :/
[05:05] <Airris> hey : do the default display drivers for ubuntu do basic things like telling the graphics card to turn on it's fan and stuff?
[05:06] <saihtam> Airris: hot gpu?
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> papul, for mp4/mkv (doesn't do avi anymore) check out Handbrake
[05:06] <danx> theadmin: firefox is always number 1 in my top list (when I use it), anyways seems like Airris' problem is beyond our hands and just needs a better driver I guess.
[05:06] <Airris> and would there perhaps be a tempature reading program that runs on linux
[05:06] <Airris> saihtam : yep, light activity brings it 10 C higher than it should be at
[05:06] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: There's mention about using nvclock to adjust the card's fan speed...hmmm...
[05:06] <theadmin> danx: in my top list there is update-manager and Synaptic when they work
[05:06] <saihtam> Airris: and you have external temp meter?
[05:07] <danx> I'm trying to keep X from running at boot; I have run "update-rc.d -f gdm remove"; gdm has been deleted from all rcn.d/ but gdm still starts at boot; what symlinks from rcn.d's do I have to remove to keep X from booting?
[05:07] <Airris> saihtam : nope, this is what the graphics card's sensor is saying it's at, but since the hardware works fine in windows i'm thinking it's not a hardware problem
[05:08] <saihtam> Airris: nothing to worry about either windows or linux shows +/-20
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> danx, to disable GDM on karmic you can use "sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf /etc/init/gdm.conf-disabled"
[05:08] <Airris> saihtam : wha?
[05:08] <danx> ZykoticK9: thanks I'll try that
[05:08] <wastrel> danx: it's because of upstart
[05:08] <Ghost|BTFH> saihtam: You know, I forgot about that...that's true, they do fluctuate a bit.
[05:09] <Airris> saihtam: also, getting an external sensor is kinda out of the question here, this is a laptop and the internals are rather tightly packed :P
[05:09] <saihtam> Airris: yes look at Ghost|BTFH
[05:09] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: He's saying (And accurately) that Windows/Linux don't always agree on the temp settings...one is usually a bit liberal and one's usually a bit conservative.
[05:09] <saihtam> they are not always correct
[05:09] <danx> wastrel: yes upstart complciates things, I miss /etc/inittab :p
[05:09] <theadmin> sigh, ntfs-3g is so SLOW. It's copying a 6GB folder for 5 minutes already.
[05:10] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: I forgot about that, freaked out the first time I ever saw my CPU temps in Linux.
[05:10] <Ghost|BTFH> Thought the whole system was going to blow up.
[05:10] <Airris> Ghost|BTFH: hmm. Ok new experiment, going back to what I said earlier : the default ubuntu drivers won't be as shiny but they should do basic things like making the GPU run its fans and stuff right?
[05:10] <NathanBdot> Ok... "Appearance Preferences" just froze on me... how do i force it to quit?
[05:10] <saihtam> Airris: yes
[05:10] <saihtam> Airris: just not show the same temp like in win
[05:10] <theadmin> NathanBdot: try hitting alt+f2 and typing "metacity --replace". This will temporarily disable compiz
[05:10] <Airris> so I think the real test would be to take the Nvidia drivers off, and see what the temp is then
[05:11] <danx> ZykoticK9: thanks, it worked!
[05:11] <ZykoticK9> danx, glad to help
[05:11] <saihtam> Airris: think it would be the same you have the same temp sensor :)
[05:11] <kraut> hi
[05:11] <Ghost|BTFH> Airris: That would be possible...you could also check which version of the drivers is currently recommended for 'nix too.
[05:11] <NathanBdot> so just $metacity --replace ?
[05:11] <kraut> won't 10.04 be released today?
[05:11] <billub> i want to move a system dir from one drive to another, can i simply move it, create a symbolic link for it in the original place and expect it to work ?
[05:11] <Airris> i got the recommended pair
[05:11] <NathanBdot> theadmin,
[05:11] <Myrtti> kraut: no
[05:11] <Ghost|BTFH> I've seen massive changes from rolling back 1 version or going forward one version.
[05:11] <Myrtti> !lucid | kraut
[05:11] <theadmin> kraut: 29th April, 2010
[05:12] <kraut> meh!
[05:12] <kraut> thanks
[05:12] <Airris> but you guys are saying the logic on this experiment is sound : to compare temp with and without the nvidia drivers?
[05:12] <theadmin> kraut: Get the beta if you want :D
[05:12] <NathanBdot> theadmin, didn't work...
[05:12] <Ghost|BTFH> kraut: That means you don't want to get it until around May 5th.
[05:12] <theadmin> NathanBdot: How can you know? :D
[05:12] <kraut> theadmin: no no, i want to wait until it will be released
[05:12] <Myrtti> kraut: Ubuntu releases are in general on the last thursday of November and April
[05:12] <saihtam> Airris: sounds intresting
[05:12] <RPG-Master> OK, should I install the 64-bit or 32-bit flash?
[05:12] <Airris> I'm just *really* paranoid since this model of graphics card has already cooked itself once under normal conditions, the tech that replaced it says they melt really easily
[05:12] <NathanBdot> theadmin, it's definately disabled, but it appearance preferences is still there and won't go away...
[05:12] <Airris> so I want to be REALLY sure that the cooling system is working properly :P
[05:13] <RPG-Master> Are the improvements noticeable?
[05:13] <Ghost|BTFH> kraut: That way your repositories you love will be set up properly, all your extra stuff will work correctly, and the updates will have the major bug patches. ;)
[05:13] <kraut> i thought 10._04_ is for april and since today is the first april... ;)
[05:13] <papul> when i do
[05:13] <Airris> kraut : are you really going to download an operating system on April Fools Day?
[05:13] <danx> kraut: It comes out on April 29th
[05:13] <papul> when i do "sudo apt-get install handbrake" i get error coulnd fine package
[05:13]  * Airris snickers
[05:13] <saihtam> Airris: hehe
[05:13] <kraut> danx: yeah, i also got that info :)