[04:44] <Ollonk> crap
[04:44] <mebigfatguy> MadSeaDog: but who knows
[04:44] <snuffy47> w/ MikeChelen:  I am using SWAT this round and it turned out worst then my last attempt
[04:44] <Ollonk> Now my video card is acting up like it did when I first installed Jaunty :D :D :D
[04:44] <weegi> Madseadog: use a proxy
[04:44] <snuffy47> w/ MikeChelen:  Really need someone to chat with
[04:44] <weegi> Madseadog: that supports logon
[04:44] <yacyac> IndyGunFreak, what is my best option if i have to install ubuntu on a machine which has 256mb ram..
[04:44] <IndyGunFreak> preetam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308273
[04:44] <theadmin> Has anybody managed to fix that notification problem? As in they popping up around 5 centimeters lower then normal
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> yacyac: ugh.. thats pretty low for any version of ubungtu
[04:45] <yacyac> hmmm
[04:45] <MikeChelen> snuffy47: probably better off asking in #samba
[04:45] <poyntz> I can't get internet working in recovery mode in karmic koala. XServer is borked, and the only way I know of to fix it is to do an apt-get upgrade, but I can't with no internet connection. Help!
[04:45] <yacyac> IndyGunFreak, 512mb ram is atleast needed ?
[04:45] <Ollonk> yacyac, best bet is xubuntu
[04:45] <BoredKender> poyntz, got a flash drive?
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> yacyac: if i was gonna run w/ that little ram, id' use xubuntu
[04:45] <snuffy47> thans
[04:45] <justin__> Hey guys, my ubuntu server doesn't have a /ect directory  why?
[04:45] <MadSeaDog> weegi,  you know a good one? can i use it for undernet?
[04:46] <Ollonk> i'm using 308mb right now with 4 tabs in firefox, 3 channels in xchat and pidgin
[04:46] <poyntz> BoredKender: yeah, why
[04:46] <jwopf> is it safe to delete all schemes in  /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/* ?
[04:46] <yacyac> IndyGunFreak, Ollonk, alright
[04:46] <MK13> how do you disable the "60 seconds until shutdown" message in karmic?
[04:46] <BoredKender> can put a boot partition on it and copy the files over to your main drive after booting maybe?
[04:46] <r00to3> My screen goes black after 10 mins, how do i change this?
[04:47] <MikeChelen> yacyac: xubuntu will run on 256mb but is slow, try crunchbang instead
[04:47] <poyntz> BoredKender: not sure if booting is the problem. I can get to the console screens.
[04:47] <wip> wgrant: what about cpufreqselector, how to avoid the password pop-up?
[04:47] <Newbie> i installed axel on jaunty but cant find it. can someone please tell me how to start it?
[04:47] <weegi> Madseadog:    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proxies+that+work+with+the+undernet
[04:47] <Ollonk> well
[04:47] <yacyac> MikeChelen, what is crunchbang ?
[04:47] <Ollonk> I"m going to bed
[04:47] <Ollonk> maybe the news will be better in the morning
[04:47] <Ollonk> later all
[04:47] <mcw> hey what's going on
[04:47] <Ollonk> thanks again wgrant
[04:47] <wgrant> wip: Not sure about that one. That uses PolicyKit
[04:47] <poyntz> BoredKender: the only reason you see me here now is because I have DreamLinux, which lets me use internet through a console (my xserver is borked on that as well)
[04:47] <wip> wgrant: i tried to chmod +s it, no success
[04:48] <mebigfatguy> r00t03: system menu->Preferences/Screensaver ?
[04:48] <MikeChelen> yacyac: another ubuntu derivative, with lightweight Openbox window manager
[04:48] <wgrant> wip: !!!!!! making things setuid on a hunch is *not* a good idea.
[04:48] <BoredKender> poyntz, my point is to give yourself an environment to copy your xserver files from. dont know if it will work or not...
[04:48] <chowder> yacyac: crunchbang is an ubuntu-based linux distro designed to run on systems with limited resources
[04:48] <snuffy47> tough crowd at #samba
[04:48] <yacyac> MikeChelen, i just want to use internet and office application on it
[04:48] <wip> wgrant: as you can see, i don't really care about the risk
[04:48] <BoredKender> poyntz, how did you break them?
[04:48] <r00to3> mebigfatguy, haha thx, did a fresh install and didnt check that feature again
[04:49] <wip> wgrant: i used to be root for X11 for about 5 years without beign hacked...
[04:49] <Newbie> does anyone know any download accelerators i can use?
[04:49] <MikeChelen> yacyac: here is the list of applications: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/applications
[04:49] <wip> wgrant: nobody cares about me :)
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> yacyac: crunchbang might be a very good idea for you on that machine.
[04:49] <wgrant> wip: You are extremely unwise.
[04:49] <poyntz> BoredKender: for Ubuntu - I upgraded to Karmic (which killed xserver); for DreamLinux - I loaded some module in the xorg.conf file which corrupted everything
[04:49] <MikeChelen> Newbie: downthemall firefox addon is nice
[04:49] <yacyac> has anyone of you tried installing the 3g usb modem and got it working ?
[04:49] <MadSeaDog> weegi,  not that easy...
[04:49] <BoredKender> can anyone tell me: if i download a widget out of the repository in karmic, how do i actually add it?
[04:50] <weegi> madseadog: do you have a windows in your house
[04:50] <poyntz> BoredKender: do you have screenlets?
[04:50] <niadh_> Has anyone had issue freshly installing Karmic, there's a file-system bug I didn't like the look of (bug #453579) can anyone confirm or deny isues with it?
[04:50] <wip> wgrant: don't you agree that asking a password to change the cpu frequency is unwise, i mean... i am logged in!
[04:50] <BoredKender> poyntz, yes
[04:50] <wgrant> wip: Certainly, that is suboptimal.
[04:50] <BoredKender> poyntz, but cant see how to add something i got from the repository
[04:50] <poyntz> BoredKender: you can launch the screenlet manager and tick the box next to start in the manager
[04:50] <ShapeShifter499> is it illegal to copy music from my friends ipod? if so, or, if not, is there some legal document saying this so I can show my friend?
[04:51] <rww> !ot
[04:51] <poyntz> BoredKender: open up a terminal and type screenlets
[04:51] <BoredKender> yes it is ShapeShifter499
[04:51] <poyntz> BoredKender: that should fire up the manager
[04:51] <mikeru> !ot | ShapeShifter499
[04:51] <BoredKender> ShapeShifter499, go to the riaa.gov website
[04:51] <wip> wgrant: keyring / policykit is not needed at all. if someone is logged in... well i don't see why bothering with password...
[04:51] <wgrant> niadh_: All that anybody knows (which is little) is on that bug.
[04:52] <poyntz> does anyone have any idea how I can connect to the internet via karmic in recovery mode (it will not work in any other mode)
[04:52] <yacyac> IndyGunFreak, MikeChelen crunchbag looks perfect to me
[04:52] <Shikaku> karmic has fusecompress in the repositories... it works quite well
[04:52] <BoredKender> poyntz, i have the manager running, but the widget i downloaded is a gtk2 perl widget and not listed in the manager
[04:52]  * IndyGunFreak ShapeShifter499 technically, yes it is... but the same people that arrest you for using a VCR to record TV programs, will be the ones who come after you
[04:52] <weegi> madseadog:  if you do use this program; http://soft.softoogle.com/ap/sockscap-download-5157.shtml , to point your irc program at this;  http://www.torproject.org/
[04:52] <wip> wgrant: just choose a big password for your login
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> yacyac: its not as easy to use as gnome, or kde.. .but its very functional and once you get the hang of the GUI, its not hard
[04:52] <mikeru> IndyGunFreak: was that /me necessary ?
[04:52] <mikeru> :S
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> oops..lol
[04:53] <wgrant> wip: The keyring is there to prevent physical attackers from getting at your passwords.
[04:53] <poyntz> BoredKender: there's a directory you have to put your widgets in to get them read by the screenlet manager
[04:53] <mikeru> :P
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> don't know why i typed me..
[04:53] <MikeChelen> yacyac: great, seems people like the fit for anything under 512mb. for less than 128mb or less there are some other options such as Damn Small Linux
[04:53] <jrt05> wip, you are rationalizing your stupidity of logging in as root for 5 years straight.  Anyway you look at it, it wasn't smart.
[04:53] <poyntz> BoredKender: you should be able to find a tutorial on Google search that tells you how to add widgets to the manager
[04:53] <yacyac> IndyGunFreak, i prefer using xfce myself.. but its for my staff who can barely use windows ehehe
[04:53] <weegi> weegi: i wonder...
[04:53] <weegi> awww
[04:53] <poyntz> BoredKender: I've done it myself (so I know it can be done). Just can't remember how to do it now, sorry :/
[04:54] <wip> jrt05: like i said i just do music with my computer, i don't care if someone hack me
[04:54] <wip> jrt05: i mean as long as they don't use my machine to send spam ;)
[04:54] <r00to3> wip, you would care if somebody got access to your pc
[04:54] <wip> jrt05: but you are right, i am now using limits.conf to raise up my privileges
[04:54] <yacyac> MikeChelen, then the problem will be to get office application to work. like opening and editin .doc , .xls file format.
[04:54] <exodus_ms> !ext4 > exodus_ms
[04:55] <BoredKender> poyntz, the one i have is a .deb seen here http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libgtk2-ex-volumebutton-perl
[04:55] <poyntz> Can anyone tell me how to get the internet working in karmic in recovery mode?? is it possible?
[04:55] <judibeefl> wip:  you should care about security
[04:55] <exodus_ms> !fs > exodus_ms
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> poyntz: can you not boot your desktop and try to get it going?
[04:55] <MikeChelen> yacyac: yup that is true, at least with ubuntu-based distros you can always install gnumeric or open office
[04:55] <snuffy47> nobody at # samba samba problems need help with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/306405/ my samba cfg is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/306408/  please just some direction to go in
[04:56] <poyntz> BoredKender: I don't have xserver to can't guide myself through it to be of any help even if I did download the .deb :/
[04:56] <MikeChelen> yacyac: there are other options too like google spreadsheet, which works okay in firefox 2 and newer
[04:56] <MK13> !filesystem > exodus_ms
[04:56] <poyntz> IndyGunFreak: what do you mean
[04:56] <exodus_ms> MK13, ty
[04:56] <yacyac> MikeChelen, yeah.. you know its crazy.. the machin which has 256mb ram has a intel p4 3ghz processor.. these people do not care to upgrade it to atleast 512mb ram. just trying to save money
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> you said you're havign a problem w/ your wireless, and can you get it working in rescue mode... can you not boot your desktop in regular mode?
[04:56] <wip> i read somewhere that you can modify gdm (in pam.d) and have the login password and keyring, and then it will stop asking for password for changing stuff or just to open empathy...
[04:56] <MK13> exodus_ms, next time try "/msg ubottu !<query>"
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> or your machine, not necessarily desktop
[04:57] <poyntz> BoredKender: so it's all just guess work. Otherwise I'd be doing the same as you and going to Google to find a tutorial
[04:57] <wip> sadly, i don't work in karmix
[04:57] <exodus_ms> MK13, will do, thanks for the tip
[04:57] <poyntz> BoredKender: try the main site even
[04:57] <poyntz> BoredKender: I'd be surprised if it isn't in the documentation
[04:57] <BoredKender> poyntz, thanks for trying  :)
[04:57] <MK13> exodus_ms, no prob
[04:57] <poyntz> BoredKender: np
[04:58] <boomernang> poyntz, does copying /usr/local/share/screenlets to ~/.config sound familiar?
[04:58] <poyntz> boomernang: no
[04:59] <yacyac> have you guys ever used Huawei EC 168c/1260 devices ?
[04:59] <preetam> the command "sudo lshw -C network" shows output "*-network DISABLED" please let me know how to enable it
[04:59] <MikeChelen> yacyac: well crunchbang sounds good then, if they got some more memory to add to that cpu it would definitely run xubuntu or regular ubuntu well
[04:59] <Guest19412> hello  i wann to  install xbmc on my ubuntu but synaptic manager not flagging xbmc
[04:59] <millertimek1a2m3> hey does anyone know of an alternative to the sound recorder that comes packaged with the system?
[04:59] <millertimek1a2m3> it consumes a lot of processing power any time I use it
[04:59] <rww> millertimek1a2m3: audacity works pretty well
[04:59] <MK13> !investigate
[04:59] <yacyac> MikeChelen,  yeah.. i hope so.. thanks alot man
[05:00]  * poyntz wishes that the Ubuntu team would make Ubuntu connect to the intenet once the consoles are loaded like it does in DreamLinux
[05:00] <millertimek1a2m3> rww: and it doesn't consume tons of processing power?
[05:00] <rww> millertimek1a2m3: I imagine that depends on what you're doing with it and what you mean by "tons". Best way to see would be to try it.
[05:00] <Scunizi_> poyntz: are you in server or desktop?
[05:00] <wip> is this supposed to work with karmic: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[05:00] <yacyac> MikeChelen, IndyGunFreak can you look at this device.. it is used to connect to the internet. can i configure it in ubuntu ? http://www.rcom.co.in/Communications/rcom/RNetconnect/images/Huawei-EC168c-Bb+.jpg
[05:01] <poyntz> Scunizi_: i'm on DreamLinux in a console (because I can't access the internet from the Ubuntu console) - and both my xservers are borked
[05:01] <BobbyShaftoe> I'm using 8.04 LTS. I want to use the latest version of Glade3 (3.6) but it is not available in Synaptic. What's the best way to install updated packages in an LTS Ubuntu?
[05:01] <kiaas> I'm having issues with the GeForce 8600 and the 185 driver. Is there an older driver that will work with that card? (it shows the 173 driver, will that work?)
[05:01] <poyntz> Scunizi_: so I have no GUI atm on either OS
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> yacyac: i have no idea on that.
[05:01] <Scunizi_> poyntz: ati graphics?
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> i've read about those devices before though
[05:01] <poyntz> Scunizi_: NVIDIA
[05:02] <yacyac> IndyGunFreak, MikeChelen http://www.rcom.co.in/Communications/rcom/RNetconnect/netconnect_broadband_device.html#HuaEC1260
[05:02] <MikeChelen> !xbmc
[05:02] <yacyac> i have got this device.. i use it while travelling for accessing internet
[05:02] <Scunizi_> poyntz: did you do all the upgrades with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?  and did X ever come up?
[05:03] <Scorch2> hi
[05:03] <poyntz> Scunizi_: when I'm saying the xservers are borked I could be wrong as well. my ubuntu rig is on gnome and the DL rig is on xfce - could be a completely different problem entirely
[05:03] <Scunizi_> poyntz: did they ever come up?
[05:03] <Scorch2> Anybody here can help with a huge 9.10 prob?
[05:03] <Farloc> weird question. For some reason in E17 i keep loosing my icons. They load up and are there but are quickly gone. Makes my bars annoyingly invisible.
[05:03] <Omen20> What is up with Ubuntu 9.10 install errors?
[05:03] <MikeChelen> Guest19412: add the xbmc ppa https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc
[05:04] <poyntz> Scunizi_: on DreamLinux, that command is just giving me the message - "blah packages have been kept back". on Ubuntu I can't use that command because I can't connect to the internet :/
[05:04] <Omen20> Scorch2,  ME!
[05:04] <MikeChelen> !ask | Scorch2
[05:04] <poyntz> Scunizi_: but to get to Karmic, I did it via gnome update-manager
[05:04] <Scunizi_> poyntz: are you wired or wireless?
[05:04] <Omen20> Oh I meant to say I have a huge problem
[05:04] <poyntz> Scunizi_: both, but atm wireless
[05:05] <Scunizi_> poyntz: have you tried it wired on ubuntu..?
[05:05] <wip> It works great except when combined with automatic login. When automatic login is enabled the keyring manager asks for the damn password. Does anyone know why and how to get it working?
[05:05] <Scorch2> Omen, please. I've been stuck on a supposed 9.10 install for nearly 8 hours. I appears that nothing is being installed but my sys is using huge resources
[05:05] <poyntz> Scunizi_: thanks for the tip. I'll try that, then use your command
[05:06] <poyntz> Scunizi_: brb
[05:06] <Scorch2> I want to get out of whatever is happening
[05:06] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: 8hrs?... i'd say the installer probably froze.. were you upgrading?
[05:06] <Omen20> I have installed 4 times now. 1st time was 64bit RC, second time was 64bit again off the torrent, 3rd off the download server, just now I switched to 32bit from the torrent. All have a problem at the very end of install with removing a package which causes some huge problem when I reboot.
[05:06] <Scorch2> Not intentionally
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: well, either you were, or you werent
[05:07] <nitin> Hi all
[05:07] <MikeChelen> Omen20: what package, why is it being removed?
[05:07] <Scorch2> Nothing shows in my D.L file, but the sys monitor show crazy use
[05:07] <MK13> how do i disable the 60 second wait/message when shutting down?
[05:07] <iuri> hi there
[05:08] <Omen20> here is the error I get around 97 or 98%
[05:08] <iuri> i have no mail command at shell prompt
[05:08] <nitin> whenever i try to mount my ext3 partition it asks me the root password, how to remove the security option
[05:08] <iuri> how do i install it
[05:08] <Scorch2> Ok, Indy. I WAS d/L. Now can I quit
[05:08] <IndyGunFreak> nitin: i was wondering that as well.
[05:08] <Omen20> E:sub-process usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[05:08] <Newbie> i want to enable extra visual effects but i keep getting "desktop effects could not be enabled" i need help please
[05:08] <nitin> using /etc/fstab we can do it
[05:09] <nitin> but that will mean it will mount during boot time
[05:09] <nitin> I dont want that :) want the fast startup :)
[05:09] <MikeChelen> nitin: there is a "noauto" fstab option
[05:09] <nitin> ok lemme check
[05:09] <MikeChelen> Newbie: do you have hardware drivers enabled?
[05:09] <Guest4874> k
[05:10] <Newbie> yes...nvidia
[05:10] <Omen20> Some of the times it has explicitly told me there was a problem with the language packages. One time I rebooted and everything worked but I had no keyboard support and I had gotten the error during install. Since then I have not even gotten it to restart.
[05:10] <Scorch2> no help?
[05:10] <MikeChelen> !nvidia | Newbie
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: you're not making sense
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> wsere you just downloading, or were you UPGRADING your OS.
[05:10] <MikeChelen> Newbie: usually that error means there is a 3d accel problem
[05:11] <MK13> how do i disable the 60 second wait/message when shutting down? the right click menu doesn't show preferences/edit anymore.
[05:11] <Newbie> so what do i do please?
[05:11] <Scorch2> I want to kill all processes and quit whatever is happening with the 9.10 install
[05:11] <nomopofomo> if i want to wipe my drive completely i can use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda is that correct? do i need to add anythingabout block size? or can i omit that
[05:11] <devon> hey people
[05:12] <devon> quick question about update manager
[05:12] <Omen20> What is super frustrating is that Intrepid and Jaunty worked like a dream. So easy.
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: well, you can try.. but depending on how far along it is, it might have already bricked your OS.
[05:12] <Scorch2> If I do kill, will it create other problems?
[05:12] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: I can't get it work
[05:12] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: I get the same error :(
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> Flare183: hmm, that sucks... gotta be a way around that.. broadcoms are awful common
[05:13] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: Yeah I know
[05:13] <MikeChelen> Newbie: is there more than one driver version listed in hardware drivers? you can try switching among those
[05:13] <ubuntuuser002> Upgraded to Karmic and can not login, any suggestions? Already ran apt-get clean.
[05:13] <IndyGunFreak> Flare183: i'd be willing to bet it will get worked out within a week or so.
[05:13] <Scorch2> So Indy, you think I am screwed, or do I have to kill the process to find out?
[05:13] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: Yup, eventually the open source guys will get it working
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: you can kill it, just saying don' be surprised at all if your machine won't start when you restart...
[05:14] <Omen20> From what I can tell, Karmic is a dud and I'll probably stick with Jaunty at this point.
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: how far along was the ugprade?
[05:14] <Scorch2> Fabulous!
[05:14] <EntityReborn> Hm.
[05:14] <devon> my update manager is not allowing me to update the following packages: qemu, gsteramer1.10-1plugins-bad, and xserver-xorg-input-all.  should i be worried?  it has been suggesting the updates for a few months, but it doesn't let me update them.  i'm running karmic
[05:15] <devon> srry for butting in like that
[05:15] <Flare183> Question: Would my Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) work?
[05:15] <ubuntuuser002> Anyone?
[05:15] <domo> hey i noticed with karmic theres that new app application.. and on the ubuntu website there was a lot mentioned about karmic including new tools for developers to create new ubuntu apps easily
[05:15] <domo> what are these tools?
[05:15] <IndyGunFreak> Flare183: i would think so.
[05:15] <EntityReborn> I'm trying to watch a DVD, ave installed the restricted extras, and still no joy (players insist they canft read the resource) altho Ubuntu asks if I want to watch the movi
[05:15] <FoolsRun> Hi, I was stupid and ran the Karmic update over an NX session. Periodically I got "xlib extension generic event extension missing on display" errors during the upgrade but nothing seemed to fail. However several things are broken, such as Avahi --it fails to start properly on boot, but restarting it manually makes it work. Are problems with the upgrade likely my issue?
[05:15] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: Ok, because that's what my laptop has, and I'm using my laptop right now to be in here
[05:16] <IndyGunFreak> Flare183: i would think you should be able tog et your laptop online via wireless w/ a intel device.
[05:16] <devon> EntityRebor: u need to add some line to your sources list, and install libdvdcss2.  google libdvdcss2, u should be able to find a tutorial
[05:16] <Scorch2> I can not tell. I don't know where to find a progress ap
[05:16] <EntityReborn> k
[05:16] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: If I upgrade to Karmic it will?
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Flare183: it should work in jaunty
[05:17] <ab_> EntitiyReborn: libdvdcss2
[05:17] <ShapeShifter499>  Is it illegal to download music videos from youtube or veoh and then convert it to ipod/mp3/psp player format?
[05:17] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: It does. lol That's what I'm using right now XD
[05:17] <Flare183> ShapeShifter499: no
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> EntityReborn: easiest way to install libdvdcss2, is to add the medibuntu repo and install it.. http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> Flare183: oh i see.. you're saying would it work under Karmic
[05:17] <shankhs> hi
[05:17] <Flare183> IndyGunFreak: Exactly.
[05:17] <devon> entityreborn:  here's a tutorial if you want at http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[05:17] <IndyGunFreak> it *should* i would think.. Intel usually has pretty solid support
[05:18] <EntityReborn> thx
[05:18] <EntityReborn> I have the libdvdcss4 one installed
[05:18] <EntityReborn> woops
[05:18] <EntityReborn> nope
[05:18] <EntityReborn> thats read, not css
[05:18] <IndyGunFreak> EntityReborn: dont' follow those instructions, they are for ubuntu 6.10
[05:18] <FoolsRun> anone have an opinion on whether I screwed up my system?
[05:18] <shankhs> I have manually installed firefox 3.5.3 and now the update manager shows to upgrade firefox to 3...How I stop the update manager to stop notifying about the updates I dont want to install?
[05:19] <EntityReborn> IndyGunFreak, I see that :)
[05:19] <edbian> shankhs: Remove the firefox 3 package.
[05:19] <IndyGunFreak> devon: that site is horribly outdated
[05:19] <shankhs> edbian: how to do that?
[05:19] <IndyGunFreak> EntityReborn: use medibuntu, it will set you up.. http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:19] <edbian> shankhs: the package manager will only notify about packages that are installed on the system.
[05:19] <Scorch2> It looks like it has ended. How do I tell for sure?
[05:19] <shankhs> i have already installed 3.5.3
[05:19] <wgrant> shankhs: It's important that you perform that upgrade anyway; Firefox is used as a library by many applications, so leaving a vulnerable old version around is a very bad idea.
[05:19] <EntityReborn> gotcha
[05:19] <edbian> shankhs: Do you want CLI instructions or GUI ?
[05:20] <ShapeShifter499> thanks for info, got to go, bye
[05:20] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: restart and get really upset when you have a grub error.
[05:20] <wgrant> shankhs: Alternatively, upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10 which has Firefox 3.5.4 built in.
[05:20] <shankhs> wgrant: I have ff3.5.3 and the ff 3 version I have just kept as a backup
[05:20] <edbian> shankhs: What wgrant said is probably true.  I'm not sure want depends on firefox if anything but in any event apt-get will tell you :)
[05:20] <edbian> shankhs: I am willing to bet it is safe to remove firefox 3
[05:20] <wgrant> shankhs: If you are using an Ubuntu version othe rthan 9.10, Firefox 3.0 will be used by other applications.
[05:20] <Scorch2> Gee Indy that's really helpful
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> Scorch2: well.. you asked
[05:21] <wgrant> shankhs: If you do not upgrade Firefox 3.0 when asked to, those other applications will remain vulnerable.
[05:21] <Roasted> Question - what's the command in terminal to see what unix users are currently existent on the system?
[05:21] <edbian> wgrant: What other apps depend on firefox?
[05:21] <edbian> Roasted you have to look at /etc/passwd file
[05:21] <edbian> Roasted: That's usually the best way to see ALL users
[05:21] <shankhs> edbian: wgrant : does that mean that I have no way to stop update manager from notifying until I remove the package from the system?
[05:21] <edbian> shankhs: That's my understanding yes.
[05:21] <Roasted> edbian - so if I ran nano /etc/passwd I can see what users are there?
[05:22] <Scorch2> It's been a real pleasure. Chau
[05:22] <revant> We cannot install kubuntu/xubuntu from a CD (ONLY)! I'm tired of trying now. 3 days of my life gone for this
[05:22] <wgrant> edbian: They don't any more depend on firefox itself, as such. They depend on xulrunner, but that has the same effect.
[05:22] <edbian> Roasted: /etc/passwd is a file.  It lists all the users on the system and info about each user
[05:22] <wgrant> shankhs: That's correct. it is a rather important security update.
[05:22] <edbian> wgrant: IC :)
[05:22] <merma> how can I make ubuntu to ask for a password everytime I want to mount an ntfs partition?
[05:22] <porter1> revaant, why would you try for that long without doing something significantly different?
[05:22] <merma> is it an option in fstab?
[05:23] <chowder> merma: I think its somewhere in the sudoers file but you shouldn't edit it unless you know what you're doing
[05:23] <EntityReborn> Ok, that worked, for VLC (Media player is still complaining can't read from resource) but the video is extremely choppy. Any waY I can reduce this?
[05:23] <revant> because i thought I can download Alternates of all ubuntu Distros and have all the packages to install!
[05:23] <shankhs> wgrant: pretty strange what if I remove firefox completely that is I chose not to keep any version of ff then some apps will not work? Which apps , can you be more specific please?
[05:23] <revant> It
[05:24] <ray_> question: I have compiz installed and I checked the desktop cube option and went to its properties and set the key bindings to ctrl f11. Nothing happens when i hit ctrl f 11
[05:24] <porter1> EntityReborn, you can change the video preferences to a different video output
[05:24] <ray_> I used to run linux mint
[05:24] <ray_> kde version
[05:24] <ray_> and that plamsa version ran the desktopo cube fine
[05:24] <ray_> now im on ubunto 9 gnome desktop, and no go
[05:24] <gutsy> how do i update my grub to recognize new kernels and operating systems? currently, i have 3 OS installed on my system: ubuntu, debian and windows and my MBR configured to boot ubuntu
[05:24] <wgrant> shankhs: The help application is one important thing in the default installation. There are numerous others.
[05:24] <edbian> gutsy: "sudo update-grub" I believe ;)
[05:25] <sohrab> hi all
[05:25] <shankhs> wgrant: so there is no way to remove ff completely?
[05:25] <gutsy> edbian: thanks
[05:25] <sohrab> is anybody know about vmware server on centos 5.4
[05:25] <porter1> shankhs, why so adamant to remove it?
[05:25] <Blue1> sohrab: try #centos?
[05:26] <shankhs> porter1: just for the sake of knowledge and some curiousity
[05:26] <wgrant> shankhs: No. Its libraries are a core part of many desktop applications at this point.
[05:26] <shankhs> porter1: i think i should know whats in my desktop
[05:26] <ray_> any ideas on my cpmpiz problem?
[05:26] <edbian> shankhs: If you "sudo apt-get remove firefox" you won't be able to run it.  The binary for firefox will not be on your system.  Some of the config files will be left over and many of the other packages firefox needs to run will be left over because other applications use them as well.  (xulrunner is an example)
[05:26] <ray_> compiz
[05:26] <porter1> shankhs, I'm not arguing that. I was simply wondering so that I could provide a better response for your question.
[05:26] <sohrab> helloooooooo
[05:27] <edbian> sohrab: He
[05:27] <demonspork> !hello | sohrab
[05:27] <edbian> sohrab: Hi*
[05:27] <devon> indygunfreak:  the ubuntu tutorial site?  oops, thanks for noticing.  my bad
[05:27] <ziggy_> is there any way to run duel screen with compiz fushion ?????????
[05:27] <dcider> any idea how to change the shutdown timer??
[05:28] <ziggy_> is there any way to run duel screen with compiz fushion ?????????
[05:28] <shankhs> porter1: I am not taking it as an argument either, i was just curious because it has been 3 yrs , i have installed and removed many apps but I never touched ff.
[05:28] <h4r1> Ubuntu 9.10 seems to have some problems with mobile internet?
[05:28] <devon> ziggy_: do u have nvidia?  my proprietary nvidia driver has a little config app that lets me do that
[05:28] <shankhs> wgrant: edbian : porter1 : thank you everybody have a good day
[05:28] <h4r1> I am unable to connect through it
[05:28] <wgrant> h4r1: What type of modem? Some Huawei?
[05:28] <h4r1> Yes
[05:28] <edbian> shankhs: NP
[05:28] <h4r1> Huawei CDMA based internet access
[05:29] <Blue1> devon: I've problems with the 185 driver  so flopped back to 173 -- much more stable.
[05:29] <ziggy_> i have a ATI CARD WITH ONLY 128 MEG raddion 4250
[05:29] <ray_> can anyone tell me why desktop cube from compiz runs great on linux mint, but in ubuntu i cant get it to initiate with the key bindings i set?
[05:29] <wgrant> ziggy_: As long as you're not using the proprietary NVIDIA driver, System->Preferences->Display should allow you to set up multiple monitors.
[05:29] <Dasda> Hi guys
[05:29] <renkastle> hi guys! :D
[05:30] <wgrant> h4r1: You are possibly hitting bug #446146, which should have a fix pushed out very soon.
[05:30] <Dasda> I have a problem. Im trying to upgrade using alternate cd. However, it stalls when "fetching files"
[05:30] <Dasda> lol
[05:30] <quickvfr1> I can boot to the splash with the moving white line then the screen blinks black, goes back to the splash and loops.  Any ideas?
[05:30] <redsix> how do i get sudo priveliges in the GUI
[05:30] <AssociateX> I just did a major upgrade which did 1500+ packages. Now my sound does not work.
[05:30] <wgrant> redsix: For doing what?
[05:30] <porter1> redsix, gksu
[05:30] <noidea_`> I need some help =\
[05:30] <AssociateX> how do I fix my sound?
[05:30] <MenZa> redsix: gksu <application name>
[05:30] <renkastle> i have a problem with my monitor resolution, i have a crt 17" and i cant put 1240x1024 only 800x600 :s
[05:30] <ziggy_> ok i 'm using a ATI card a older one with out the drivers installed when i use drivers my monitors goes  blank and it doesn't boot up after boot screen
[05:30] <wgrant> !ask | noidea_`
[05:30] <lstarnes> !gksudo | renkastle
[05:30] <redsix> for copying files
[05:30] <lstarnes> renkastle: sorry, wrong person
[05:31] <ziggy_> but i haven't been able to figure it out and ive been at it for days
[05:31] <lstarnes> redsix: use gksudo nautilus in the alt+f2 dialog.  be very careful when doing this though
[05:31] <ziggy_> so please help
[05:31] <renkastle> ok
[05:31] <ziggy_> anyone
[05:31] <porter1> renkastle, what driver are you using?
[05:31] <ray_> can anyone see my text in here? my text sems to be a lighter grey while everyone else is dark?
[05:31] <Blue1> ray_: just fine
[05:31] <ray_> thnx
[05:32] <renkastle> thanks, my graphics are a Intel GMAX3000
[05:32] <brocgiddens> ray_, you're fine
[05:32] <ziggy_> i can see your text
[05:32] <lstarnes> !fixres | renkastle
[05:32] <Roasted> Question - I added 4 users to my system earlier. I added one just now. T he one just now does not have a home directory, while the 4 from earlier do - yet all 5 never logged in. Do users get a home directory after rebooting??
[05:32] <ziggy_> perfect
[05:32] <noidea_`> Ok, I've been trying to file share between my two ubuntu computer for a while. I can access all the shared files on my windows computer, but not on the Ubuntu one =\
[05:32] <renkastle> my drivers are the normal ones
[05:32] <Blue1> noidea_`: how did you "add" the user?
[05:32] <Poyntz> Scunizi_: us.archive.ubuntu.com hangs for apt-get :/
[05:33] <Poyntz> Scunizi_: i've tried rebooting and everything
[05:33] <EntityReborn> :/ how possible is it that my drive's speed is the issue?
[05:33] <noidea_`> Blue1, I don't quite know what that is.
[05:33] <Poyntz> Scunizi_: so no luck trying to apt-get update, etc.
[05:33] <ray_> is compiz only for kde or does gnome use it as well?
[05:33] <Dasda> would anyone know what cause the upgrade to stall at "getting new packages" using alternate cd?
[05:33] <EntityReborn> I noticed that if I disable sound, it seems to have no problem
[05:33] <noidea_`> I just right clicked the file and said share.
[05:33] <wgrant> Poyntz: That mirror is horribly overloaded.
[05:33] <Blue1> noidea_`: sorry then I can't help if you don't know what you did.
[05:33] <wgrant> Poyntz: It's a problem at the server end, not yours. Perhaps try a different mirror.
[05:33] <renkastle> i usually edit the xorg.conf file
[05:33] <wgrant> Ubuntu 9.10's release is too much for many mirrors, again :(
[05:33] <Wolfcastle> hello
[05:33] <renkastle> but i cant find it.. :(
[05:33] <Poyntz> wgrant: can you help me out there?
[05:33] <noidea_`> Blue1, I don't know what you mean.
[05:34] <ziggy_> is there any way to run duel screen with compiz fushion ?????????
[05:34] <Wolfcastle> I have a couple of updates available
[05:34] <noidea_`> I right clicked the file and clicked sharing etc..
[05:34] <wgrant> Poyntz: System->Administration->Software Sources, and select another server in 'Download from'.
[05:34] <ziggy_> is there any way to run duel screen with compiz fushion ?????????
[05:34] <Wolfcastle> but I get an error when applying
[05:34] <ziggy_> is there any way to run duel screen with compiz fushion ?????????
[05:34] <wgrant> !repeat | ziggy_
[05:34] <Poyntz> wgrant: my xserver is borked. can you give me a console command?
[05:34] <Wolfcastle> says it error 404
[05:34] <noidea_`> And it works for the WIndows computer, but not the other Ubuntu computer =\
[05:34] <shankhs> \quit
[05:34] <Dasda> !upgrade
[05:34] <wgrant> Poyntz: sudo sed -i -e 's/us.archive.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com' /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <wgrant> Poyntz: Then apt-get update, and try again.
[05:35] <Poyntz> wgrant: thanks
[05:35] <Wolfcastle> is there some problem with the repos?
[05:35] <Wolfcastle> well the cl repos to be exact
[05:35] <ray_> does anyone use the program Second Life on Linux here?
[05:35] <wgrant> Wolfcastle: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:35] <redsix> i'm having a big problem making flash work in firefox, i've copied the 64-bit .so file into the plugins director but it still doesn't work
[05:35] <renkastle> brb
[05:35] <Wolfcastle> karmic
[05:35] <merma> how can I make ubuntu to ask for a password everytime I want to mount an ntfs partition?
[05:35] <wgrant> Wolfcastle: And you said you're using cl.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:35] <Blue1> redsix: did you install the flash plugin?
[05:35] <ziggy_> is there any way to run duel screen with compiz fushion ?????????
[05:35] <lstarnes> merma: that might not be possible
[05:36] <redsix> Blue1 yes
[05:36] <ziggy_> please help
[05:36] <orlafc> merma, the first time you mount a partition
[05:36] <Wolfcastle> wgrant, indeed
[05:36] <orlafc> it asks you for your root password
[05:36] <ziggy_> please help
[05:36] <orlafc> and once you type it in, even if you unmount the partition
[05:36] <ziggy_> please help
[05:36] <wgrant> Wolfcastle: Try using the main server for now (System->Administration->Software Sources, 'Download from')
[05:36] <lstarnes> ziggy_: you'll have to be patient.  It is possible that nobody here knows, or someone is looking for an answer
[05:36] <merma> orlafc, i selected it to mount automatically, is there a way to restore the defaults?
[05:36] <wgrant> orlafc: It doesn't. It asks you for *your own* password.
[05:36] <Poyntz> wgrant: i'll brb
[05:36] <Blue1> i can't get flash to work in opera, but it works in firefox and konqueror
[05:36] <orlafc> ah
[05:36] <ziggy_> sorry
[05:36] <MenZa> ziggy/w 126
[05:36] <MenZa> woops.
[05:36] <merma> so it's not possible?
[05:36] <orlafc> I am sorry, I run Fedora, not Ubuntu
[05:37] <ray_> ziggy, check this link   http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS269&=&q=dual+monitors+in+compiz+fusion&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
[05:37] <orlafc> fedora asks for the root password
[05:37] <Blue1> redsix: I can't get flash to work in opera, but it works in firefox and konqueror
[05:37] <lstarnes> merma: if I'm not mistaken, only users in the fuse group can mount ntfs volumes using ntfs-g3
[05:37] <Wolfcastle> wgrant, thanx I'll try that
[05:37] <MenZa> orlafc: We can only support Ubuntu here.
[05:37] <EntityReborn> Hm.
[05:37] <Wolfcastle> btw I have a problem with the flash plugin in firefox, sometimes it doesn't react to mouse input
[05:37] <orlafc> yeah, I was only trying to help
[05:37] <EntityReborn> does this channel provide cloadks?
[05:37] <redsix> Blue1 i've got it working on 3 other machines it just wont work on this one
[05:38] <EntityReborn> cloaks
[05:38] <Wolfcastle> i.e. I can't clic to start a video
[05:38] <h4r1> wgrant: Do you know where I can see the log messages while connecting from the gui?
[05:38] <merma> lstarnes, yeah, is there a way that my password is needed everytime the partition tries to be mounted?
[05:38] <lstarnes> EntityReborn: no
[05:38] <h4r1> wgrant: mobile broadband access, that is
[05:38] <wgrant> h4r1: Not sure, sorry.
[05:38] <poyntz> wgrant: the command didn't work :/
[05:38] <lstarnes> EntityReborn: ubuntu menbers can get ubuntu/member cloaks though
[05:38] <wgrant> poyntz: What did it do?
[05:38] <EntityReborn> ah
[05:38] <lstarnes> merma: I don't think so
[05:38] <EntityReborn> well, I don't quite qualify :P
[05:38] <Blue1> redsix: hmm dunno --
[05:38] <poyntz> wgrant: sudo sed -i -e 's/us.archive.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com' /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:39] <wgrant> poyntz: Oops. Add a / just before the last quote.
[05:39] <m4t> hey, so i'm running x.org...but i have no xorg.conf. where can i find this?
[05:39] <poyntz> wgrant: i'll try it. thanks
[05:39] <redsix> Blue1 i just noticed there are some updates for firefox in the apt-get upgrade thing
[05:39] <poyntz> brb
[05:39] <wgrant> m4t: Recent versions of X.org do not require an xorg.conf.
[05:39] <Dasda> why is my upgrade using internet to get packages when im using alternate cd? It starts getting packages from internet at like 1142 of 1430
[05:40] <Wolfcastle> m4t,  it's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:40] <lstarnes> poyntz: and that final / might need to be /g (e.g. sudo sed -i -e 's/us.archive.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list)
[05:40] <m4t> wgrant: how can i dump the running config? Wolfcastle , nope
[05:40] <wgrant> m4t: But it will be respected if you have on at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:40] <Dasda> i chose do not use internet also
[05:40] <redsix> Blue1 firefox-3.5-gnome-support and a few others
[05:40] <wgrant> lstarnes: There will never be multiple instances of that on one line.
[05:40] <m4t> aticonfig needs one
[05:40] <Blue1> redsix: yeah forgot about those -
[05:40] <m4t> eg. aticonfig --initial looks for a 'template'
[05:40] <lstarnes> wgrant: ah, right
[05:40] <FoolsRun> Anyone else have Avahi not working after reboots since upgrading to Karmic?
[05:40] <wgrant> m4t: What are you doing with aticonfig?
[05:40] <redsandro> hey people, can anyone help me fix my ethernet that failed after I upgraded xubuntu 9.04 to 9.10?
[05:40] <m4t> wgrant well i have an older ibm laptop, so i patched the catalyst 9.3 driver in several places
[05:41] <lstarnes> Dasda: it might be downloading newer versions of the packages that are on the alternate cd, but I'm not sure
[05:41] <m4t> and enabled pci msi in the kernel
[05:41] <wgrant> m4t: The free drivers don't do 3D on your old card?
[05:41] <m4t> wgrant it's not a question of that.
[05:41] <m4t> the free drivers suck :/
[05:41] <Dasda> lstarnes, oh.  I have an broadcom wlan card and im using ubuntu 9.10 I can connect to my wlan but I really often get diconnected.. what could be wrong? I know that im in a good range of the router!
[05:42] <redsandro> I have a VIA Technics VT6102 or VT6201 that works normally with every previous version and every liveCD but after the upgrade to Karmic it stopped working
[05:42] <C-S-B> so whats the difference between chromium and google chrome on linux? I'm running chromium and wondering if i should migrate to chrome
[05:42] <Blue1> devon: kewl
[05:42] <Dasda> lstarnes, i got the alt cd thinking it may be fast :(. I think im probably doing something wrong though. Not sure what it is
[05:42] <wgrant> C-S-B: Chromium is open source and less likely to spy on you, IMO.
[05:42] <Dasda> Im following upgrade instructions however
[05:42] <Scunizi_> Dasda: just let it run..
[05:43] <C-S-B> wgrant, cheers. Is chrome more developed yet?
[05:43] <Blue1> Dasda: I've had problems with the upgrade - so I backed everything up, and did a clean install
[05:43] <devon> Blue1: im running 185
[05:43] <poyntz> wgrant: now it hangs on au.archive.ubuntu.com :/
[05:43] <h4r1> Do anyone of you know where the log gets generated if I try to connect mobile internet using ubuntu karmic koala?
[05:43] <wgrant> C-S-B: They are based on the same codebase.  If it was desktop I wouldn't care at all cause i could just leave it on and come back in the morning
[05:43] <Blue1> devon: I've had problems with the 185 driver - so I went to the 173 driver - I'm now lockup free
[05:43] <wgrant> poyntz: There's no proxy in between you and there?
[05:43] <walzz> Hello ! I have an broadcom wlan card and im using ubuntu 9.10 I can connect to my wlan but I really often get diconnected.. what could be wrong? I know that im in a good range of the router!
[05:43] <wgrant> C-S-B: Not sure. You'd have to look it up.
[05:43] <Valentina> I'm absolutely sure that the script will run by the cron job.
[05:44] <wgrant> !repeat | walzz
[05:44] <devon> blue1: i get the occasional lockup... when was the 185 released?
[05:44] <Scunizi_> Dasda: you can't do that with your laptop?
[05:44] <poyntz> wgrant: i don't think. i haven't set one up. and apt-get's always worked in the past
[05:44] <C-S-B> wgrant, yeah, i did google and ended up a little fruitless. thanks none the less.
[05:44] <Dasda> Bluel: I think im gonna do a clean install too anyways but i just wanted to mess arounda bit with 9.10 and then do a clean install :)
[05:44] <wgrant> poyntz: Possibly wait a while and try again.
[05:44] <Blue1> devon: don't rightly know....I got it when 9.10 came out hand had problems
[05:44] <poyntz> wgrant: maybe au.archive is overloaded aswell?
[05:44] <ziggy_> ANY ONE KNOW HOW TO USE COMPIZ FUSHION WITH DUEL MONTIORS PLEASE HELP
[05:44] <Dasda> Scunizi: lol, i can but i really dont want it to heat up
[05:45] <wgrant> ziggy_: No shouting, thankyou.
[05:45] <Blue1> Dasda: backup /etc/ and /home/ at a minimum - always have a path back to the way it was, before you messed it up!
[05:45] <brandon___> in my ubuntu9.10 live cd it told me to enable proprietary driver for wifi, howeve when i installed ubuntu it says non sre in use and gives non for me to enable
[05:45] <devon> Blue1: just checking cuz i've had a few lockups now and then since i started at 9.04
[05:45] <poyntz> wgrant: is there another mirror that could be used for au.archive
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> ziggy_: the same way you do it w/ a single monitor
[05:45] <wgrant> ziggy_: It's also more to do with your graphics card driver, and nothing to do with Compiz Fusion.
[05:45] <redsandro> Someone please give me instructions to manually reinstate my ethernetcard, I dont care if it bypasses my network manager, I just need internet!
[05:45] <xTCx> night
[05:45] <wgrant> poyntz: archive.ubuntu.com itself, perhaps.
[05:46] <poyntz> wgrant: using the command you gave me before with the sed -i -e ?
[05:46] <devon> blue1: i'm switching right now... i've heard bad things about 185 already, may as well
[05:46] <demetris_> hello
[05:46] <Guest13780> hoe to install xbmc through terminal i mean  command
[05:46] <demetris_> i need 3d support for my 9600 pro on ubuntu 9.10
[05:46] <devon> ziggy_: what kind of video card do you have?
[05:46] <Dasda> Bluel: ye thats a good idea. I backed up my school work which is most important to me. If the rest goes wrong then thats good :). Lol thats when the learning begins
[05:46] <Scunizi_> Dasda: get two of the larger cookie sheets you have in the house with sides on them.. put one down and fill with a layer of ice. put the other on top and the laptop on top of that.. should chill it enough for hours.
[05:46] <Blue1> devon: let us know if that works for you - it did for me...
[05:46] <redsandro> '%%,`%%,`%%,`%%, Help! `%%,`%%,`%%,'%%,
[05:46] <wgrant> poyntz: Right.
[05:46] <redsandro> That was annoying..:P
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> demetris_: is that one of the old ATI devices?
[05:46] <demetris_> is there a way for this to happen?
[05:46] <demetris_> yes
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[05:47] <psinetic> what's one good programming application i can install from the applications menu that supports a wide range of languages and also allows for compiling of the code? also, is there one for making applications in ubuntu?
[05:47] <alabd> Good day everyone , while connecting to cellphone Gprs Internet via bluetooth , this error happened > Failed to open /dev/rfcomm0: Host is down of course pc connects to cellphone via bluethooth but cellphone can not connect to pc and gives this error >   Can't add bnep0 to the bridge pan1: No such device(19) this issue happened to 2 healthy cellphones , may it be cause of permission ?
[05:47] <demetris_> i need cairo dock to run in ogl
[05:47] <demetris_> now is buggy as hell
[05:47] <Dasda> hehe nice Scunizi. Im just gonna open the window and leave it on
[05:47] <demetris_> black orders and stuff
[05:47] <brandon___> anyone?
[05:47] <demetris_> borders\
[05:47] <poyntz> wgrant: I wouldn't know how to modify that command to get it to identify another mirror for the au.archive :/ could you help me there? (or just tell me what I need to add from the last command)
[05:47] <yacyac> IndyGunFreak, what kind of partition should i keep while installing ubuntu... like / /home /swap on different partition ?
[05:47] <Dasda> its at package 1182 of 1430
[05:47] <redsandro> ifdown not working, sais eth0 is not defined
[05:47] <wgrant> poyntz: s/foo/bar/ will replace foo with bar throughout the file.
[05:48] <poyntz> wgrant: gotcha. thanks
[05:48] <devon> blue1: sure.  i won't notice anything rite away, i havent had the screen lockup in a few weeks.  one thing that kept happening was my display freezing when opening one specific menu in Empathy, but only when using msn.  it was really weird.
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> yacyac: you can keep /home i guess.. but if you're going from Debian to Crunchbang, i'd just stat over
[05:48] <Guest13780> hello wat is the command to install xbmc
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> but thats just me
[05:48] <demetris_> not usable in current state of osd
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> idon't keep home ona  separate partition anyways
[05:48] <brandon___> in my ubuntu9.10 live cd it told me to enable proprietary driver for wifi, howeve when i installed ubuntu it says non sre in use and gives non for me to enable
[05:48] <poyntz> wgrant: just a thing tho. how would I get it to replace both us.archive and au.archive?
[05:48] <psinetic> anyone?
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> brandon___: what wifi device?
[05:49] <Blue1> devon: with 185 I was getting about 10,000 fps -- and with 173 about 8200 fps - I think the 185 driver overdrives the card...
[05:49] <wgrant> poyntz: Best to run two commands. But if you've already run the one I gave you, there should be no us.archive.ubuntu.com left.
[05:49] <poyntz> wgrant: something like 's/us.archive.ubuntu.com&&au.archive...' ?
[05:49] <poyntz> wgrant: ah k
[05:49] <brandon___> its a broadcom 'wifi  driver
[05:49] <walzz> brandon___: laptop?
[05:49] <poyntz> wgrant: i'll see how i go. thanks. brb
[05:49] <Guest13780> hello anyone can help me wats the command for installing xbmc
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> brandon___: /sigh.. there's a lot of broadcomm devices.. which one
[05:49] <devon> blue1: wait actually 10,000?  and yes right now im doing like nothing and my gpu temp is at 70 deg
[05:49] <Blue1> devon: glxgears
[05:50] <Dasda> xbmc available for ubuntu? can it be synced with xbox1?
[05:50] <walzz> brandon___: is the wifi button on?
[05:50] <Dasda> i love xbmc on my xbox1
[05:50] <Scunizi_> Dasda: should be available.. as for syncing I don't know
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> walzz: lol, you ever hear that show on the "Bob and Tom radio show" called Mr. Obvious..lol (If you haven't, put Mr. Obvious in youtube)
[05:50] <devon> blue1: btw what card are u using?
[05:50] <nomopofomo> about how long is it going to take dd to fill my 300gb hd with 0s?
[05:50] <brandon___> live cd gives option for B43 or STA / yes wfi button is on / hp pavilion dv57
[05:50] <Blue1> devon: just a sec...
[05:50] <brandon___> dv5t
[05:50] <Dasda> right now im using cifs share to xbmc from my windows desktop
[05:51] <merma> 0 crashes so far .... i love nvidia legacy drivers
[05:51] <Blue1> devon: 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[05:51] <brandon___> drivers available on live cd but not installed ubuntu
[05:51] <[V]ortex`> hello i can play flash on youtube, but i can't use the controls... can anyone help?
[05:52] <brandon___> worked fine in 9.04
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> brandon___: just curious if you're gonna answer my question, when you feel like it, let me know
[05:52] <pshr_> is there a away to set the volume level to maximum by default, i have to increase the volume every time i reboot ?
[05:52] <merma> [V]ortex`, im having the same problem, i have no solution yet
[05:52] <psinetic> what's one good programming application i can install from the applications menu that supports a wide range of languages and also allows for compiling of the code? also, is there one for making applications in ubuntu?
[05:52] <sobersabre> hi guys. how well does the Intel ┬« Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 4500MHD card perform ?
[05:52] <merma> [V]ortex`, it just works sometimes
[05:52] <[V]ortex`> merma: did the problem carry over from 9.04?
[05:52] <Blue1> pshr_: wondering that one myself.
[05:52] <sobersabre> is it comparable to any nvidia cards ?
[05:52] <merma> [V]ortex`, no, its new for 9.10
[05:52] <wgrant> sobersabre: Old ones, yes.
[05:52] <[V]ortex`> merma: this is bad...  :(
[05:52] <wgrant> sobersabre: But nothing really new.
[05:53] <meway> how do i delte a folder with things blocked inside?
[05:53] <brandon___> live cd gives option for B43 or STA / yes wfi button is on / hp pavilion dv5t
[05:53] <merma> [V]ortex`, indeed
[05:53] <wgrant> sobersabre: 'old ones' being a few years old.
[05:53] <pshr_> and also there are unwanted links to applications in the places menu in the panel at the top, is there a way to remove them ?
[05:53] <Scunizi_> psinetic: sudo apt-get build-essential.. that's the compiler files.  use gedit, nano, vim, vi etc for writing code.
[05:53] <sobersabre> wgrant: how "old" ? I'm no gamer, for me geforce 7xxxx is more than enough.
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> brandon___: that has nothing to do w/ anything.. with what broadcom device you have
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> which broadcom do you have?
[05:53] <brandon___> IndyGunFreak: broadcom BCM4312
[05:53] <psinetic> Scunizi_, i'm not a pro at code writing, i'm wanting something that can help me along. Thanks for the compiler files.
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> thank you.. hold on a second
[05:54] <poyntz> wgrant: now i get some error message 'Duplicate sources.list entry... (archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_karmic_universe_binary-i386_Packages). what should I do here?
[05:54] <meway> how do i delete a folder that is not empty
[05:54] <wgrant> sobersabre: I don't know. The latest 3D games I've run on mine are from 2004, but they run perfectly.
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> brandon___: do you have internet access thats not wireless?
[05:54] <devon> blue1:  running glxgears, mines lookin terrible.  my whole display is lagging, and the gears are going at 8580 / 5 seconds
[05:54] <sobersabre> wgrant: are you using laptop ?
[05:54] <wgrant> poyntz: Hm. Open up and pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <wgrant> sobersabre: Yes.
[05:54] <psinetic> Scunizi_, E: Invalid operation build-essential
[05:54] <Blue1> meway: rm -rf <foldername> -- do NOT do this at root!
[05:54] <poyntz> wgrant: brb
[05:54] <sobersabre> wgrant: does it support VT-x technology ? (virtualization) ?
[05:54] <meway> ah at root
[05:54] <meway> lol
[05:54] <sobersabre> I'm considering a laptop...
[05:55] <meway> kk thx later
[05:55] <sobersabre> I mean to buy one.
[05:55] <Blue1> meway: I've come close a few times...
[05:55] <wgrant> sobersabre: Mine does, yes. You have to enable it in the BIOS, but that's trivial.
[05:55] <wgrant> sobersabre: (Lenovo ThinkPad T400, here)
[05:55] <simo_> hi can someone please tell me how I can connect Ubuntu 9.10 to Win7 for file sharing? I tried but it asks for pass
[05:55] <sobersabre> T400... OK.
[05:55] <Scunizi_> psinetic: when you sudo  apt-get install? or after?  if your typing build-essential after install you won't get anything.. it's a collection of different cli programs.. ./config, make, make install etc..
[05:55] <fornix> i've installed ubuntu karmic 64 bit. when trying to install flashplugin-nonfree, it seems to pull in 32 bit libraries and nspluginwrapper. This seems to suggest that it is installing the 32bit flash plugin. Why isn't 64bit plugin installable from synaptic?
[05:55] <devon> blue1: anyways brb gotta restart to finish changing my driver
[05:55] <Guest13780> can anyone help  me wats the command to install xbmc
[05:56] <Blue1> devonL okay
[05:56] <psinetic> Scunizi_, i'm new at ubuntu, i really have no idea what you're saying.
[05:56] <redsix> fornix what hardware you have? Core 2?
[05:56] <twinsen> hello everyone.  I have a usb sound card that seems to work (`cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp1` gives me the hiss), but the alsa mixer doesn't list USB Audio as a choice under Sound Cards
[05:56] <wgrant> psinetic: What language do you want to program in?
[05:56] <oorah> how do i change my bootup screen to xubuntu from ubuntu? by that i mean the load up bar screen
[05:56] <poyntz> wgrant: http://pastebin.com/F3a580b2a
[05:56] <fornix> redsix, amd athlon 64x2
[05:56] <brandon___> IndyGunFreak: no
[05:56] <psinetic> wgrant, as many as possible really.
[05:56] <twinsen> any way to fix that?
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> brandon___: do you have a 9.10 live CD?
[05:57] <psinetic> wgrant, i'm wanting to learn programming
[05:57] <brandon___> yes
[05:57] <Scunizi_> psinetic: build-essential is a short cut install name when using the terminal to install a bunch of packages that comprise a working setup for compiling code..
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> brandon___: i'm pretty sure this will work for your card...  http://es-la.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=167701472697&comments&ref=mf
[05:57] <brocgiddens> what is the package for latest flash in 64-bit ubuntu?
[05:57] <psinetic> Scunizi_, so it's not a program, it's a command to compile with?
[05:58] <oorah> how do i change my bootup screen to xubuntu from ubuntu? by that i mean the load up bar screen
[05:58] <brocgiddens> adobe-flashplugin?
[05:58] <wgrant> psinetic: Aha. Python is probably a good one to get started with -- it's easy to learn, all the stuff you need is already installed. Try some of the links on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PythonRecipes
[05:58] <merma> python is always good
[05:58] <natschil> Hello. How can I install only grub from the ubuntu livecd?
[05:59] <poyntz> wgrant: did the pastebin link work?
[05:59] <wgrant> poyntz: Oops, got distracted. Yes, it did (after correcting capitalisation). Looking now.
[05:59] <poyntz> wgrant: sorry about that lol
[05:59] <simo_> can anyone please help me with the networking thing?
[05:59] <pshr_> are apt-get dist-upgrade and upgrading from update manager same ?
[05:59] <wgrant> poyntz: I think line 63 is the problem; try commenting that out.
[05:59] <merma> natschil, what do you want to do exactly?
[06:00] <poyntz> wgrant: k brb
[06:00] <wgrant> pshr_: No! The former is unsupported, and will more than likely break your system.
[06:00] <wgrant> pshr_: If you want to do an upgrade from the command line, use 'do-release-upgrade'
[06:00] <devon> blue1: ok i'm back
[06:00] <brandon___> ill try it out
[06:00] <psinetic> wgrant, well i'm looking for one piece of software that could be used to write the code in, compare it, compile it, test it, everything. but not just one code, multiple types of code. I'm thinking along the lines of windows' "DreamWeaver" program (or is it "DreamViewer").
[06:00] <Blue1> devon: hope that stabilises for you
[06:00] <wgrant> psinetic: Adobe DreamWeaver is for designing web pages. I'm not sure it's what you mean.
[06:00] <devon> um, wow
[06:01] <natschil> merma: my grub is completely screwed up, so I need to somehow install it again.
[06:01] <merma> psinetic, so you want an IDE
[06:01] <devon> blue1: wow
[06:01] <devon> blue1:very different
[06:01] <pshr_> wgrant, any other options along with do-release-upgrade ?
[06:01] <Blue1> devon: hookahed on fonix, werked 4 me!
[06:01] <Blue1> devon: different - how?
[06:01] <devon> blue1:glxgears is a lot faster
[06:01] <wgrant> pshr_: Nothing you need unless you know that you want to do something special.
[06:01] <merma> natschil, yeah, this is quite common, there are tons and tons of posts on google about this
[06:01] <pshr_> wgrant, it shows no new releases found
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> natschil: on 9.04, or 9.10
[06:01] <natschil> merma: I can't find a good one ough.
[06:02] <natschil> IndyGunFreak: 9.10
[06:02] <wgrant> pshr_: Which version of Ubuntu are you using? 8.04?
[06:02] <devon> blue1: but now im using xchat irc and text appearing at the bottom of the screen is all messed up
[06:02] <pshr_> and i am in 9.04 and 9.10 is release
[06:02] <Blue1> devon: slower for me - for me I think the 185 driver just taxes the the hell out of the gpu -- can you see what your temp is?
[06:02] <pshr_> 9.04 wgrant
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> !grub2 | natschil the tutorial to reinstall is near the bottom
[06:02] <pshr_> i want to upgrade to 9.10
[06:02] <devon> blue1:holy crap its at 95 deg
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> pshr_: i wouldn't
[06:02] <wgrant> pshr_: Hmmm. That should just work.
[06:02] <wgrant> IndyGunFreak: Uh, why not?
[06:02] <Blue1> devon: thats F correct?
[06:02] <devon> blue1: but keep in mind i hav glxgears runnin gin the background
[06:02] <natschil> IndyGunFreak: thank you very much!
[06:02] <merma> natschil, what seems to be the problem?
[06:02] <psinetic> merma, what's an IDE?
[06:02] <devon> blue1: no thats c
[06:02] <devon> blue1: !!!
[06:03] <Blue1> devon: you should kill glxgears
[06:03] <renkastle> hi, i try to make my own xorg.conf file and i failed...
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> wgrant: because of the train wreck the upgrade process has been for many.. i clean installed, and everything was fine
[06:03] <oorah> how do i change my bootup screen to xubuntu from ubuntu? by that i mean the load up bar screen
[06:03] <merma> psinetic, integrated development environment
[06:03] <renkastle> i want 1240x1028 Resolution
[06:03] <devon> blue1: good idea :p
[06:03] <wgrant> IndyGunFreak: Most upgrades went fine.
[06:03] <simo_> can anyone please help me?
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol, wgrant which means little if you're not one fo the most
[06:03] <wgrant> IndyGunFreak: Better to probably have a successful upgrade than to definitely reinstall.
[06:03] <devon> blue1: temps going back down, 85
[06:03] <eeepc> hi.. im now trying to make video call on skype, but my friend can't hear my voice. is there any problem with alsa?
[06:03] <devon> blue1: 84
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> earlier this channel hit 1900 people, many of them w/ upgrade problems
[06:03] <psinetic> merma, uh....i guess?
[06:03] <Blue1> devon: whew!
[06:03] <pshr_> it won't.. i just thought i would and when i use update-manager -d and hit upgrade it just halts for no good reason huh!?
[06:03] <oorah> how do i change my bootup screen to xubuntu from ubuntu? by that i mean the load up bar screen
[06:03] <merma> psinetic, what language do you want to code in?
[06:04] <Blue1> devon: glxgears is a btfw programme for the gpu
[06:04] <devon> blue1: yeah
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> wgrant: i guess thats a matter of opinion, i'd rather jsut reinstall, rather than brick my system, then reinstall
[06:04] <durt> simo_, we need details...
[06:04] <renkastle> how can i add more graphics modes??
[06:04] <psinetic> merma, as many as possible.
[06:04] <devon> blue1: i use a lot of compiz
[06:04] <renkastle> i try with xrandr
[06:04] <merma> psinetic, you need to start with one though
[06:04] <devon> i used to have transparent cube enabled
[06:04] <merma> psinetic, look, install geany , its in the repos
[06:04] <Blue1> devon: I never got compiz to work right - when I tried to use it - it crammed all 4 work spaces into 1, and then refused to let me move anything.
[06:04] <Fager> Hi folks, I need some help. I want to get the default gdm background back but I can't find it. Any one who could tel me the path or run the command sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename and give me the output please
[06:05] <psinetic> merma, well i know that. i just want to have the option to get more in the same app if i want
[06:05] <merma> psinetic, and start learning python, thats a good start
[06:05] <pshr_> !upgrade
[06:05] <wip> how to give permission to all users to access raw1394 module?
[06:05] <merma> psinetic, geany supports a lot of languages
[06:05] <simo_> durt, sorry i already posted above...well basically I am trying to transfer a file from Win 7 to KK9.10, I tried browsing from KK but it asks for a network pass
[06:05] <wip> i tried all thoses solutions: http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/UdevConfiguration#Allow_access_to_all_users - but not working for karmic
[06:05] <devon> blue1: i used to have transparent cube enabled, where even when not rotating, the cube was transparent.  >100 deg c on my gpu.  (btw im on a laptop)
[06:05] <psinetic> merma, ok i installed it
[06:05] <devon> blue1: i learned to disable it
[06:05] <Fager> anyone, please
[06:05] <wip> where is permission.d in karmic???
[06:06] <merma> psinetic, now find a good python tutorial
[06:06] <devon> blue1: really my compiz works beautifully.  i installed ccsm and it worked "out of the box"
[06:06] <lowlycoder> is htere anyway to load songs to/from my ipod shuffle on ubuntu?
[06:06] <psinetic> merma, ok thanks
[06:06] <oorah> how do i change my bootup screen to xubuntu from ubuntu? by that i mean the load up bar screen
[06:06] <Blue1> Fager: /usr/share/images/xsplash/bg_2560x1600.jpg
[06:06] <jtz]blue> yer same compiz works and fixing fine now
[06:06] <glug> we are a new group from new horizon
[06:06] <devon> lopsinetic: banshee media player will do the job, it;s in the ubuntu software centre
[06:06] <boknoy> hi guys, every boot, there's a 1 in 10 chance that my wifi card isn't detected. I mean lshw -c network doesn't bring it up...
[06:06] <Fager> blue1: Thanks
[06:06] <merma> psinetic, in Document -> Set File Type   you can see all the languages syntax supported
[06:07] <wgrant> boknoy: Does it work fine in other Ubuntu releases or Windows?
[06:07] <devon> lopsinetic: or the add/remove software thing, if u are using < 9.10
[06:07] <simo_> durt, any idea whats going on or any suggestions?
[06:07] <Blue1> welcome
[06:07] <psinetic> devon, was that to me?
[06:07] <glug> we are starting our own glug .
[06:07] <glug> We are learning IRC
[06:08] <durt> simo_, no sorry, I don't use samba, try googling 'samba trouble shooting'
[06:08] <rodgarcia80> Hi. Could anyone use Sugar interface in Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:08] <oorah> maybe i should figure it out myself
[06:08] <boknoy> wgrant, iunno bout ubuntu but I think it works fine on Debian (haven't used it very much yet though)
[06:08] <redsix> man this flash problem is driving me crazy, firefox + no flash = sux
[06:08] <oorah> what is the boot up screen called? i'll just google it after i find the name of it
[06:08] <simo_> durt, what do you use?
[06:08] <psinetic> thanks merma
[06:08] <boknoy> wgrant, also I don't have win here
[06:08] <wgrant> boknoy: 'ubuntu-bug linux', and describe the problem in the bug report that it will file.
[06:08] <devon> psinetic: weird someone named lopsinetic was asking about syncing with ipods, and now everything he said disappeared.
[06:08] <Blue1> redsix: I presume you removed the plugin - and tried to re-install?
[06:09] <merma> psinetic, np
[06:09] <boknoy> wgrant, k thanks, will do.
[06:09] <oorah> how do i change my bootup screen to xubuntu from ubuntu? by that i mean the load up bar screen
[06:09] <natschil> IndyGunFreak: My problem is that /etc/default/grub isn't populated
[06:09] <durt> simo_, since both my lappy and desktop are both ubuntu either scp for the occasional file transfer or NFS for a perm mount.
[06:09] <psinetic> 0/ IndyGunFreak sup?
[06:09] <atmaslo27> my system is still using GRUB 1.5 to boot into Ubuntu 9.10. Is there any problems with that?
[06:09] <devon> psinetic: just realized my display was mixing your name and lowlycoder's names together.  gotta change my nvidia driver :p
[06:10] <psinetic> devon, lol, i was confused there for a sec when i saw that
[06:11] <oorah> this channel ain't as helpful as it use to be
[06:11] <redsix> Blue1 yeah, i'm about to trash this 64 bit install and try a 32 bit one
[06:11] <DasEi> atmaslo27: as long as it boots ;-), grub-install -v shows correct version
[06:11] <simo_> durt, I see... well thanks for your suggestion, this place looks busy now I'll try googling 1st...cya
[06:11] <devon> lowlycoder: i use banshee media player.  it syncs with shffles nicely, reminds me of itunes.  overall, a nice program.  you can find it in the ubuntu software centre (or add/remove applications if you are using < 9.10)
[06:11] <Blue1> redsix: I've got 64 bit running -- I have the iso's rehosted on my machine if that would help any...
[06:11] <devon> psinetic: srry about that, that was messed up.
[06:11] <atmaslo27> than DasEi. I've been using Ubuntu for over a yr, but I am just a user (not a noob per se), but still learning
[06:11] <atmaslo27> thanks*
[06:11] <psinetic> :P it's ok devon, glad i said something about it or you'd never be able to talk to the guy who really needed help
[06:11] <redsix> Blue1 i'm just burning the 32 bit now
[06:12] <devon> psineic: thanks...
[06:12] <DasEi> atmaslo27: i banned grub2 to my vm-experiments and downgraded to legacy on my karmic
[06:12] <Blue1> redsix: just for the halibut - have you tried removing firefox and re-installing it?  there have been updates to firefox in the last couple of days, have you run the update manager at all?
[06:12] <oorah> how do i change my bootup screen to xubuntu from ubuntu? by that i mean the load up bar screen
[06:13] <Blue1> oorah: no idea what you mean by "load up bar"
[06:13] <redsix> Blue1 i've removed, reinstalled, updated, rebooted, reinstalled the flash .so multiple times and it's a frehly installed OS
[06:13] <atmaslo27> oorah where are u stationed?
[06:13] <oorah> Blue1, you know when you turn on the computer and you see the status bar of the boot up?
[06:13] <devon> blue1: well thanks for the suggestion, i dunno this nvidia driver is not treating me well... i am going back to the 185... good luck with your 173
[06:13] <brandon___> IndyGunFreak: thanks drver works perfectly
[06:13] <Blue1> redsix: what type of system ?  amd/intel?
[06:13] <markatto> what package will get me the compiz config settings manager?
[06:14] <oorah> like the more the orange bar fills up the closer it is to booting to the desktop? i wanna change it to xubuntu bar
[06:14] <flame> hello, how do i change shiretoko to firefox?
[06:14] <Blue1> devon: okay --
[06:14] <redsix> Blue1 I have a Core 2 Q6600 Quad Core
[06:14] <lstarnes> flame: it is firefox
[06:14] <oorah> camp pendleton
[06:14] <flame> lstarnes: i know, but i want it to be called firefox and not shiretoko
[06:14] <b0w> markatto: compiz-settings-manager
[06:14] <aquachica> Hello everyone.
[06:14] <Blue1> redsix: I have an amd here...
[06:14] <lstarnes> flame: that can't be done
[06:14] <lstarnes> flame: but you can have its launchers use the default firefox logo
[06:15] <flame> lstarnes: even though i have installed firefox-branding?
[06:15] <lstarnes> flame: you can also have it report as firefox in the useragent string
[06:15] <aquachica> I still cannot get Ubuntu to see my hardware.  I have tried everything I can think of.
[06:15] <redsix> Blue1 i have 9.10 running perfectly on my AMD laptop
[06:15] <lstarnes> flame: there's a setting in about:config for the useragent
[06:15] <wgrant> flame: Mozilla restricts distributors from calling browsers Firefox unless they review all of the patches and authorize the binaries.
[06:15] <atmaslo27> fun... I'm at Miramar... just wanna give a oohrah to u as well... gnite all
[06:15] <markatto> b0w: no such package
[06:15] <Blue1> redsix: my amd works well --
[06:15] <devon> redsix: you are using the Adobe one right?  i'm running 64 bit and i don't have any trouble
[06:15] <oorah> the screen that is up before the user/password login, thats the screen i wanna change, how do i do that?
[06:15] <wgrant> flame: Note that Ubuntu 9.10 has Firefox 3.5.4 built in, so you should consider upgrading.
[06:15] <b0w> markatto: compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:15] <oorah> i need to change it from ubuntu to xubuntu
[06:16] <aquachica> I really need some suggestions because I hate not having audio on here.
[06:16] <flame> wgrant: how do i upgrade then?
[06:16] <wgrant> !upgrade | flame
[06:16] <redsix> devon yeah, getting it from the tar.gz although on the adobe site they don't say if it's 64 bit or 32
[06:16] <wip> again how to give access to all users to /dev/raw1394
[06:16] <redsix> devon it just says linux
[06:16] <wip> without chmod 777 /dev/raw1394 each time
[06:16] <flame> wgrant: i am using 9.10
[06:16] <devon> redsix: i remember i got a .deb package somehow from Adobe, lets see if i can hunt it down
[06:16] <aquachica> I did a recovery of 9.10, but that did not seem to work.
[06:17] <Blue1> redsix: you've done this yes?  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:17] <wgrant> flame: What is calling itself Shiretoko?
[06:17] <flame> in previous ubuntu-releases firefox was called firefox
[06:17] <oorah> the screen that is up before the user/password login, thats the screen i wanna change, how do i change it from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[06:17] <DasEi> markatto: simple-ccsm maybe
[06:17] <lstarnes> flame: which version are you using now?
[06:17] <wgrant> flame: And Firefox 3.5 in Ubuntu 9.10 does call itself Firefox.
[06:17] <flame> wgrant: firefox, i have installed firefox-3.5 as well as firefox-3.5-branding
[06:18] <wgrant> flame: Which version does 'apt-cache policy firefox-3.5' say that you have installed?
[06:18] <devon> redsix: its somewhere, just wait i'll find it :p
[06:18] <flame> Installed: 3.5.5~hg20091028r26506+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[06:18] <redsix> Blue1 says unable to lock the directory when i try that
[06:18] <wgrant> flame: Ah. That's a nightly build from ubuntu-mozilla-daily's PPA?
[06:19] <aquachica> I use "aplay -l" in the terminal, and it shows that OS sees my card. However, in the Sound Perferences, it does not show any hardware at all.
[06:19] <Blue1> redsix: sounds like you've got another update running somewhere...
[06:19] <flame> oh!
[06:19] <flame> now i understand :)
[06:19] <lstarnes> flame: you should use the official version in the repos
[06:19] <Blue1> okay taking a break -- need 5 back in a few
[06:19] <devon> redsix:  right here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ there is a menu, one of the choices is .deb for ubuntu
[06:19] <devon> redsix: at least for me
[06:19] <flame> so i just have to remove some software sources and reinstall?
[06:20] <aquachica> The only way that I am able to get the sound to work is to use this command "sudo alsa force-reload". However, when I reboot, I do not have sound.
[06:20] <oorah> like the more the orange bar fills up the closer it is to booting to the desktop? i wanna change it to xubuntu bar
[06:21] <devon> redsix: adobe says you can just sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[06:21] <devon> redsix: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/
[06:21] <wgrant> flame: Grab http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Exorg-edgers/ppa-purge/ubuntu/download/debian.tormod%40gmail.com-20091011191725-u3ci0hcg70ai5oed/ppapurge-20090729132438-jayqxaeub1gf2z3t-3/ppa-purge. That will remove the PPA and downgrade its packages for you.
[06:21] <poyntz> wgrant: my main issue was getting xserver up and running. i was told that apt-get update && ... upgrade && ...dist-upgrade might fix it. unfortunately now, whilst you solution to get apt-get update working without universe worked (thanks), nothing apparently needs to be updated, and xserver is still broken
[06:21] <wgrant> poyntz: did you install one of the proprietary graphics drivers just before it broke?
[06:22] <redsix> Blue1, devon i just ran sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and it's installing a load of stuff so that might fix it, DL is slow..
[06:22] <poyntz> wgrant: nope. just let update-manager handle everything
[06:22] <wgrant> poyntz: Huh. What exactly did you do before it broke?
[06:22] <flame> wgrant: thanks, removing the software sources and reinstalling worked :)
[06:22] <wgrant> flame: Excellent.
[06:22] <poyntz> all I did was upgrade to karmic
[06:22] <poyntz> wgrant: then on reboot everything stuffed up
[06:22] <devon> redsix:  ok good luck, if that doesn't work try adobe-flashplugin
[06:22] <assoguerozen_sx> what is the differente between vbox-ose and vbox-bin? u guys know that?
[06:22] <wgrant> poyntz: Well, that's a pretty big upgrade. Are you using proprietary graphics drivers at all?
[06:23] <devon> blue1: redsix: brb restarting again...
[06:23] <Roasted> Whats the command to add a new gruop to linux in the terminal?
[06:23] <poyntz> wgrant: nope. the ones that ubuntu supplies
[06:23] <flame> maybe that's why empathy is behaving weird too
[06:23] <poyntz> wgrant: i've got an nvidia geforce go 7400 if that helps
[06:23] <om26er> have anybody found a solution or kind of workaround for google chrome/chromium browser not registering clicks in falsh player
[06:24] <wgrant> poyntz: So you never installed a restricted driver for it using the Hardware Drivers application?
[06:24] <merma> om26er, i think that problem applies to firefox as well
[06:24] <robacarp> what package is gnome in? used to be called ubuntu-desktop
[06:24] <om26er> merma: firefox works fine
[06:24] <wgrant> robacarp: It's not 'in' any one package in particular, but ubuntu-desktop pulls in most of the GNOME packages.
[06:24] <Blue1> back
[06:25] <poyntz> wgrant: may have been restricted. not sure. it was version 177 i think... not sure of what. I needed it to get visual effects working
[06:25] <wgrant> poyntz: Ah. That is the restricted driver, which I've heard breaks upgrades sometimes.
[06:25] <wgrant> I'll have to hand you off to somebody else here; I don't know the proprietary nvidia driver well.
[06:25] <redsix> the us mirror is slow can someone give it a kick please
[06:25] <poyntz> wgrant: oh. thanks anyhow
[06:25] <robacarp> what package is gnome in? used to be called ubuntu-desktop wgrant thats it, thanks
[06:26] <Roasted> Question - how do I add a user to a group in terminal?
[06:26] <poyntz> wgrant: unless. you can tell me how to disable it so I can use gnome-desktop
[06:26] <wgrant> redsix: Try using an alternate mirror. The US mirror is taking incredibly heavy load at the moment.
[06:26] <wgrant> Roasted: sudo adduser USER GROUP
[06:26] <poyntz> wgrant: actually. there's a bigger issue here that i forgot to address
[06:26] <poyntz> wgrant: i can only use karmic on recovery mode
[06:26] <Blue1> redsix: don't forget to restart your browser after it instals (btdt)
[06:26] <devon> blue1: redsix: ok i'm back how's the install going redsix?
[06:26] <Tesssa> wgrant upgrade to 180 driver
[06:27] <redsix> slow............... 52kb/s
[06:27] <Tesssa> for nvidia
[06:27] <wgrant> poyntz: What breaks if you don't use recovery mode?
[06:27] <poyntz> wgrant: if i try to use the normal mode, the screen flashes and enters an infinite loop of junk
[06:27] <wgrant> poyntz: That'd be a broken nvidia driver...
[06:27] <devon> redsix: sounds like fun :p
[06:27] <Blue1> redsix: I was getting 10 k/b dl ubuntu the other day - took 28 hours to dl the iso
[06:27] <Roasted> thanks wgrant!
[06:27] <poyntz> wgrant: even if it only starts after that AppArmour thing loads?
[06:27] <wgrant> poyntz: What if you 'sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-177' and reboot?
[06:27] <wgrant> poyntz: That's around when X, and thus the broken driver, starts.
[06:27] <poyntz> i'll try. thanks
[06:28] <devon> blue1: redsix: do u have dial up or something?
[06:28] <redsix> Blue1 that fixed it - sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:28] <redsix> woohoooooooooooooo i got video
[06:28] <flame> wgrant: holy shit, you helped me with two problems at once :D
[06:28] <Blue1> redsix: you owe me a cup of coffee or I'll settle on a friend add on fb if you re there
[06:29] <flame> i had installed a ppa version of empathy as well
[06:29] <wgrant> flame: Empathy was that same problem?
[06:29] <devon> redsix: awesome.  quick question, does it allow you to interact with it?  like clicking on stuff?
[06:29] <flame> yea
[06:29] <poyntz> wgrant: apparently it isn't installed
[06:29] <wgrant> flame: Odd. that's working fine for me.
[06:29] <Blue1> redsix: way to go!
[06:29] <redsix> thanks for help guys
[06:29] <devon> redsix: cuz my flash only intermittently responds to mouseclicks
[06:29] <flame> it didn't integrate with the panels as it should
[06:29] <om26er> redsix: using medibuntu?
[06:29] <styol> ive setup a kiosk type setup where 1 account is locked down including removing all the panels.. is there a way to setup a wireless connection on this kiosked accounts without panels? only thing i can think of is a shortcut to the wifi configuration app.. does that make sense?
[06:29] <shkiper> where is xorg.conf in the karmic koala?
[06:30] <lstarnes> shkiper: it's not present by default
[06:30] <wgrant> shkiper: Same place as usual (/etc/X11/xorg.conf), but you shouldn't need one.
[06:30] <wgrant> devon: amd64?
[06:30] <lstarnes> shkiper: but you can make one manually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:30] <wgrant> flame: Ah, right, the libindicate patch is not in the PPA.
[06:30] <poyntz> wgrant: is there anything I could pastebin to you that might lead you in the right direction in terms of knowing exactly what the problem is? like a log or something?
[06:30] <wgrant> poyntz: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[06:30] <devon> wgrant: yep.  :(
[06:30] <poyntz> wgrant:
[06:30] <poyntz> wgrant: k
[06:31] <wgrant> devon: I found that same thing sometimes. It's very strange.
[06:31] <shkiper> Isgren: thanks
[06:31] <wgrant> devon: On i386 it works fine :/
[06:31] <merma> shkiper, actually xorg.conf is present by default
[06:31] <wgrant> merma: It's not.
[06:32] <merma> wgrant, it is on my installation
[06:32] <Anonymous> Do you guys think Windows is better than Ubuntu in terms of overall functionality? (using a Non-biased point of view aka not by your own preferences)
[06:32] <devon> wgrant: grr it's annoying
[06:32] <wgrant> merma: With some kind of proprietary driver, or an upgrade from 3ish releases ago?
[06:32] <vox> Anonymous: i think it depends on the intended function
[06:32] <wgrant> merma: It's certainly not present in default 9.04 or 9.10 installations.
[06:32] <merma> wgrant, ah you're right, probably the nvidia driver
[06:32] <silvr> hey
[06:32] <Anonymous> That's why I mentioned overall.
[06:32] <pleasuredom> in karmic scroll through workspace with mousewheel is disabled. any fix avail?
[06:32] <Fager> Blue1: Could you also tell me the default gdm gtk_theme? If you have not modifyed it you could run sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --get  /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme
[06:33] <Anonymous> Just common usage, nothing advanced.
[06:33] <silvr> lots of support in here
[06:33] <silvr> I like this :P
[06:33] <devon> Anonomys: for the average user, windoze is currently better.  but ubuntu is better if you are at least a little geeky
[06:33] <silvr> i want to install a .bin file
[06:33] <[uNF]> how's it going, has anyone had a problem with a fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10 where the SSH don't work, even after re-installing openssh-server??
[06:33] <silvr> and I dont know how
[06:33] <vox> Anonymous: i dont think it can be generalised like that.
[06:33] <Blue1> Fager: i think I posted that earlier
[06:33] <wgrant> silvr: You probably don't actually want to. what are you trying to do?
[06:33] <silvr> Install Adobe AIR
[06:34] <Poyntz> wgrant: http://pastebin.com/f27e0af62
[06:34] <silvr> anonymous: Ubuntu has so far served me very well keeping spyware off of my laptop and providing a speedy internet portal for my wife
[06:34] <Fager> Blue1: I must have logged out before that
[06:34] <wgrant> silvr: Try http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/04/06/how-to-install-adobe-air-on-ubuntu/
[06:34] <Blue1> fager: HumanLogin
[06:34] <silvr> i love website URL's like that
[06:34] <Fager> Thanks man!
[06:35] <silvr> it further emphasizes the "lmgtfy" thing
[06:35] <silvr> :P
[06:35] <wgrant> Poyntz: OK, that's useful. But I forget how to safely disable the proprietary driver; I recommend asking the channel in general.
[06:35] <Blue1> Fager: you are welcome
[06:35] <Viking667> quick question. Where the heck do I now define my domainname?
[06:35] <lstarnes> !hostname | Viking667
[06:36] <Viking667> *nod*
[06:36] <Poyntz> how do you safely disable a proprietry driver?
[06:36] <Viking667> but that gives me just the hostname, not the full name fatty.flying-brick.vpn
[06:37] <devon> anonomys: i was raised on mac and later switched to ubuntu, so i have never really had to deal with windoze, except for at school.  so i guess i got a prettyt privileged childhood.  so ubuntu blows windows out of the watter, but then again anything will.  windoze is a joke, and its only momentum that is keeping them where they are.
[06:37] <hipitihop> I have a jaunty to karmic upgrade that has stalled after getting to "file 1605 of 1605" in step "Getting New packages" any suggestions ?
[06:37] <Merlin_> I just changed hostname at /etc/hostname and now it says sudo: unable to resolve hostname: Ubuntu
[06:37] <mikeru> totem crashes on avis....
[06:37] <Viking667> Merlin_: heh.
[06:37] <silvr> does ./ denote my home folder
[06:38] <wgrant> silvr: . is the current directory.
[06:38] <lstarnes> Merlin_: you will need to boot into recovery mode and make sure that the name in /etc/hostname is also in /etc/hosts with an ip of <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:38] <wgrant> silvr: ~ is your home directory.
[06:38] <Viking667> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:38] <Shwack> Hello
[06:38] <wgrant> Viking667: Both work.
[06:38] <devon> wgrant: well, i like being able to click on flash applets.  i guess i could switch to 32 bit and hope that they fix flash sometime before the year 2036... :p but that would be too much work.
[06:38] <skysong> Anonymous: i like eye candy and what i did to my xfce can't be done in windows.. so..
[06:39] <silvr> its been a long time since ive used a terminal of any flavor
[06:39] <Viking667> lots of stuff "can't be done" in Windows... at least, not without third-party programs.
[06:39] <devon> skysong: anonomys: cuz eyecandy totally defines an os :) (sadly, it actually does.)
[06:39] <b0w> anyone here has an intel card and using it on 9.10????
[06:39] <Viking667> silvr: hah. And I've used nothing BUT terminals (and GUI) for over 15 years.
[06:39] <Tesssa> wgrant if you can upgrade to nvidia 180
[06:39] <wgrant> b0w: Me.
[06:39] <Viking667> ... actually, longer than that.
[06:39] <skysong> devon: true.. still trying to have my pc look like a mac though:P
[06:39] <wgrant> Tesssa: I have no nvidia cards.
[06:39] <b0w> wgrant: great, what can you say? working better
[06:39] <skysong> b0w: what intel card? hda intel?
[06:39] <b0w> ??
[06:39] <Tesssa> oh sorry thought you had
[06:39] <wgrant> b0w: Much much better than 9.04.
[06:40] <devon> viking 667: same with ubuntu really, its mostly 3rd party apps assembled together into an os
[06:40] <Shwack> devon: it's not so sad. the same trend carries into every market and every product
[06:40] <wgrant> b0w: Unless you have something older than an i915 (i8xx)
[06:40] <devon> skysong: lol
[06:40] <Amit> which desklet would you prefer for ubuntu ?
[06:40] <Amit> ubuntu 9.10 ?
[06:40] <b0w> wgrant: yeah mine too, but theres something weird, i dont know if u have compiz but when i try to enable the blur
[06:40] <Merlin_> Now it doesn't say it anymore.  (I didn't use recovery.  I just edited /etc/hosts)
[06:40] <b0w> wgrant: the system goes veeeeeeeery slow
[06:40] <skysong> Amit: you meant what *desktop*? then yes, it works fine for me
[06:41] <Poyntz> wgrant: ill have a hunt on google. thanks for the help. btw what's worth remembering from the pastebin I sent you?
[06:41] <adonai2009> Hello , there is some way to save definitions on a ubs live pen . because after shoutdown i got a config keybord layout , wirelss driver and everything again
[06:41] <silvr> Unable to execute, saying that my AdobeAIRInstaller.bin isnt there
[06:41] <Guest15495> no I meant desklet like gdesklet, adesklet ?
[06:41] <wgrant> b0w: Older Intel cards don't do pixel shaders well, so blurs are very slow.
[06:41] <Guest15495> something to spice up my desktop
[06:41] <silvr> I chmod'd it +x and I see it when i DIR
[06:41] <Shwack> I have an issue with Linux and youtube videos in fullscreen.  In WinXP using Firefox, my comp handles it perfectly.  In Ubuntu and firefox, my comp can't handle mouse movements while fullsize in yotuube. Other video formats workfine.
[06:41] <wgrant> silvr: You have the capitalisation right?
[06:41] <silvr> ye[p
[06:41] <maonx> Is anybody using gmail notify
[06:42] <skysong> Guest15495: choose whichever suit you, the one you're more at ease using?
[06:42] <devon> shwak: i geuss so.  but eyecandy can't define ubuntu becasue its so customizable.  it shouldn't define, because people can download themes.  for example, i have full blown compiz-ness and this super badass theme called "slickness-black", but ubuntu doesn't look like that out of the box.  it looks like a kids os out of the box.
[06:42] <Blue1> I saved $180 on a win 7 upgrade...
[06:42] <maonx> Is anybody using gmail notify
[06:42] <hipitihop> my upgrade has stalled, which log do I see to work out why?
[06:42] <Poyntz> !offtopic | maonx
[06:42] <b0w> wgrant: how can i see what card i got exactly?
[06:42] <adonai2009> some way to save definitions on a ubs live pen . because after shoutdown i got a config keybord layout , wirelss driver and everything again .?is was a question sorry
[06:42] <skysong> devon: funny thing is ubuntu, to gentoo users, is a kids os:p
[06:42] <Merlin_> #offensive security
[06:42] <wgrant> b0w: lspci | grep VGA
[06:43] <silvr> I like ubuntu
[06:43] <wgrant> skysong: OTOH Gentoo, to Ubuntu users is an OS for irrational kids :P
[06:43] <devon> skysong: ouch.  then again, they wouldn't base backtrack 4 on a kids os now would they
[06:43] <silvr> I have installed Slackware/Mint/Debian/Ubuntu6~/Kubuntu9.10/Ubuntu 8.10
[06:43] <skysong> lol wgrant :p
[06:43] <silvr> and so far i love Ubuntu 9.10
[06:43] <maonx> I can't not set gmail notify
[06:43] <Shwack> devon: I guess I had the wrong idea - you are right in that it shouldn't define it.  I was speaking more towards the fact that it sells(in this case, gets downloaded and used )
[06:43] <b0w> wgrant:  thanks! 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[06:44] <b0w> wgrant: is that old? hehe
[06:44] <aquachica> I hate Ubuntu 9.10!
[06:44] <lizzzy> So, this is odd. I installed 9.10 and there is no a /boot/grub/menu.lst file!?
[06:44] <silvr> i <3 ubuntu 9.10
[06:44] <lstarnes> lizzzy: try grub.conf
[06:44] <lizzzy> aquachica: Why all the hate
[06:44] <silvr> i hate kubuntu
[06:44] <flame> ubuntu 9.10 is probably the best linux experience so far
[06:44] <skysong> silvr: ive been on linux for 4-5 months now.. shifting from ubuntu 9.04 to sabayon and back to ubuntu now. I like it better and first thing is the people using it are just nice compared to the others.
[06:44] <wgrant> b0w: That's an i945. It's not terribly old, but it's not new enough to have reasonable blur performance.
[06:44] <lstarnes> lizzzy: its name changed
[06:44] <silvr> well, I just hate KDE
[06:44] <lizzzy> will do that lstarnes /
[06:44] <wgrant> b0w: Even brand new GM45s aren't great.
[06:45] <silvr> I have noticed a nicer atmosphere in the Ubuntu-environment :P
[06:45] <Shwack> Ubuntu 9.10 has been good to me except for slightly unstable sound (I get a hissing sound when i turn my subwoofer down past 10%)  my neighbors love the extra bass
[06:45] <b0w> wgrant: i see anyway i dont need the blur thing hehehe but would be nice to have it
[06:45] <devon> shwak: yeah that does make sense.  and everyone puts videos of their own ubuntu looks on youtube, so i guess in a way the sheer variation in itself defines it.
[06:45] <silvr> I had some serious driver issues
[06:45] <aquachica> lizzzy: My audio was take away from me. 9.10 destroyed SCIM. My Network Manager/Connections changed into some horrible piece of .... that I cannot change broadcasters.
[06:45] <silvr> but once I remedied that with proprietary stuff
[06:45] <silvr> it got super
[06:45] <daniel32708> Hello Guys, I am running Ubuntu 9.10 32bit. I have installed and enabled nvidia driver 173 (Recommended). However, when I try to turn on desktop effects it wont let me...  my pc has an integrated intel gpu, but i am using an nvidia geforce fx 5200  PCI card......  in other past versions of UBuntu it worked perfectly.   Any hints???    thx!!!
[06:45] <Shwack> What can Gentoo do that Ubuntu can't (I'm new to linux and asking genuinely, not trying to say that ubuntu is as good)
[06:45] <daniel32708> btw, it was a fresh install
[06:45] <lizzzy> aquachica: :(
[06:46] <wgrant> aquachica: Ubuntu 9.10 starts the migration away from SCIM to iBus.
[06:46] <silvr> Daniel32708: did you reboot
[06:46] <daniel32708> yes
[06:46] <aquachica> lizzzy: I was so much happier with 9.04.
[06:46] <Shwack> devon: Recent WinXP convert (never going back)  I admit, I tried linux after seeing the compiz cube......
[06:46] <silvr> maybe you should do 185
[06:46] <silvr> or 177
[06:46] <adonai2009> please someone can give me an ansewar ?
[06:46] <skysong> Shwack: dunno.. tried gentoo only once.. i had a preference for slackware at that time
[06:46] <daniel32708> silvr: i only get in the list 173 and 96
[06:46] <hipitihop> does update manager log upgrade steps ?
[06:46] <aquachica> wgrant: I was able to get SCIM back.
[06:46] <Merlin_> What does sudo sshd-generate do?
[06:46] <Shwack> My cube is backed by a fully connected 3d skydome image of greenlands glaciers
[06:47] <adonai2009> n I sent you?
 Hello , there is some way to save definitions on a ubs live pen . because after shoutdown i got a config keybord layout , wirelss driver and everything again ?
[06:47] <lizzzy> aquachica: It's actually the opposite for me. 9.04 screwed up my audio, there was this unknown mouse delay and kde kept crashing. 9.10 fixed it all.
[06:47] <aquachica> But I really hate the way the Network Manager/Connections works.  I may switch to wicd.
[06:47] <devon> shwak: must admit, thats what converted me... thats actually why i bought a duo core laptop with nvidia at all instead of just staying with our old 1.6 ghz mac with 750 something mb of ram
[06:47] <devon> shwak: lol
[06:47] <lstarnes> adonai2009: we have seen your message, but it is possible that either nobody here knows an answer or someone is looking for one for you
[06:47] <aquachica> lizzzy: I started on 8.10.  I really didn't have issues with that OS.
[06:48] <Shwack> So does anybody have any idea why my Ubuntu can't handle youtube videos in fullscreen as good as windows can?  I've tried new/old firefox packages and nonfree plugin and all
[06:48] <silvr> daniel: I dont know brother, if it doesnt list other options, I know there is a ridiculously complicated nvidia walkthrough if you google it
[06:48] <Shwack> I'm hoping there's quick fix
[06:48] <hipitihop> aquachica: I have switched to wicd back in 9.04 and never looked back
[06:48] <merma> since i installed 9.10 nothing has crashed so far
[06:48] <daniel32708> silvr: thx man
[06:48] <aquachica> lizzzy: I really feel like Ubuntu is being Microsoft-ish at the moment.
[06:49] <merma> aquachica, why?
[06:49] <skysong> me too, only nexuiz won't work else everything runs just fine.
[06:49] <aquachica> hipitihop: I am probably going to do that as soon as I get my audio back :: crosses fingers ::
[06:49] <flame> i feel that too
[06:49] <flame> ubuntu is waaay overprised
[06:49] <merma> skysong, nexuiz works perfectly here
[06:49] <Shwack> why is Ubuntu microsoftish?
[06:49] <flame> prized*
[06:49] <skysong> not here:'(
[06:49] <Shwack> flame loll
[06:49] <_Dasda> ubuntu is awesome. i converted from xp last month (used windows all my life). I dont plan on going back. I have 9.04 and upgrading to 9.10 in process now. I dont even have issues with 9.04 at all
[06:49] <aquachica> merma: Having all these issues feels like I am getting the "Blue Screen of Death".
[06:49] <lizzzy> aquachica: I started on feisty, loved it ever since :)
[06:50] <Shwack> _Dasda, same - converted last week
[06:50] <flame> is there an easy way to change the ubuntu logo in the menu bar?
[06:50] <silvr> it refuses to see my adobeairinstaller
[06:50] <ElectRo`> i just installed 9.04
[06:50] <aquachica> merma: It's mostly the emotion that is starting to come out of me.
[06:50] <merma> _Dasda, i hope you won't find problems in 9.10 neither
[06:50] <Tesssa> decided to wait untill 10.4 comes out in april 2010 looking at all the bugss in 9.10
[06:50] <ElectRo`> id much rather be in slackware now
[06:50] <gaara_> flame:yes
[06:50] <_Dasda> the only thing about windows which makes me consider is sometimes for school we get these asssignment cds which are only compatible with internetexplorer
[06:50] <b0w> flame: ubuntu tweaks
[06:50] <wgrant> Tesssa: 'all the bugs'?
[06:50] <merma> aquachica, yeah I understand
[06:51] <aquachica> merma: I have Ubuntu 9.04 Remix on my netbook, and I love it.  Just want to add Firefox 3.5.
[06:51] <merma> _Dasda, how come they are only compatible with IE?
[06:51] <lizzzy> aquachica: microsoft-ish?? Lol. No way. Have you ever used vista? 9.10 is way more fun.
[06:51] <_Dasda> merma: dunno why
[06:51] <ElectRo`> _Dasda, you could try and use wine
[06:51] <lizzzy> Atleast kubuntu 9.10 is :)
[06:51] <aquachica> merma: But I will not be adding 9.10 Remix to it any time soon.
[06:51] <wgrant> aquachica: Ubuntu 9.10 has Firefox 3.5. You should consider upgrading.
[06:51] <_Dasda> Ye i use WIne
[06:51] <wgrant> aquachica: Why not?
[06:51] <Tesssa> yep looking at the people having problems with 9.10 asking help in here
[06:51] <_Dasda> i lvoe the fact that there are no viruses on ubuntu
[06:52] <KitsuneDr> yet
[06:52] <merma> _Dasda, it won't run in firefox?
[06:52] <wgrant> Tesssa: No more than any other release.
[06:52] <_Dasda> merma no
[06:52] <aquachica> lizzzy: I used Vista a few times and was ready to use a baseball bat on it. Unfortunately, the laptop belonged to a friend.
[06:52] <Tesssa> will stick with 9.04 for the time being
[06:52] <lizzzy> aquachica: :p
[06:52] <aquachica> wgrant: I was hoping to upgrade Firefox within 9.04.
[06:52] <Whiper> Dear Friends Can Any body Tell me is there any Keylogger for ubuntu
[06:53] <KitsuneDr> Vista sucked windows 7 is much better but Ubuntu is still the best
[06:53] <merma> aquachica, you can install firefox 3.5 in 9.04, its in the repos I think
[06:53] <aquachica> lizzzy: And I don't want Windows 7 (Vista 2.0).
[06:53] <_Dasda> im doing upgrade for now to 9.10 but plan to do a clean install when i have some time off school to take a few days to reconfigure things if needed
[06:53] <Shwack> is doing a clean install better?
[06:53] <Whiper> Dear Friends Can Any body Tell me is there any Keylogger for ubuntu
[06:53] <devon> shwak: this is why fullscreen flash videos don't work... http://xkcd.com/619/
[06:53] <KitsuneDr> yeah is there a keylogger for Linux?
[06:53] <_Dasda> shwack, u get grub 2 and ext4
[06:53] <aquachica> merma: I will do that once I have calmed down. lol  I have been on this audio-network-SCIM issue all day.
[06:54] <Whiper> Dear Friends Can Any body Tell me is there any Keylogger for ubuntu
[06:54] <Tesssa> well im the kind of person ubuntu wants to attract millions like me all with home computers who use windows who just want to point and click
[06:54] <merma> Whiper, there are, indeed
[06:54] <KitsuneDr> Devon: ha xkcd is the best
[06:54] <Tesssa> oh and i never had any problems with 9.04
[06:54] <lizzzy> haha, that is true aquachica. But, I've been getting rave reviews about win7
[06:54] <devon> _dasda: Shwak: thats sorta bleeding edge stuff... there are still a lot of issues with ext4,
[06:54] <Whiper> merma: Please tell me the name of application
[06:54] <devon> kitsuneDr: i know i love it
[06:54] <aquachica> Tesssa: Neither did I.
[06:55] <KitsuneDr> whisper she won't tell you
[06:55] <Shwack> devon: lol good to know others are in the same boat - thank you
[06:55] <lizzzy> lstarnes: This is really odd, but I have no grub.conf in my boot/grub :(
[06:55] <Tesssa>  up to know i cant get 9.10 to install
[06:55] <Whiper> HEY PLEASE IT IS WHIPER FRNDS
[06:55] <Shwack> Dasda, I installed ext 4 when I switched to linux in 9.04
[06:55] <aquachica> lizzzy: I am sure 7 is a lot stabler than Vista, but having to reload (and recheck for pirated software) is a real pain.
[06:55] <KitsuneDr> Devon: did you go to their site when geocities went under?
[06:55] <lizzzy> aquachica: It is.
[06:56] <devon> kitsunedr: no, what happen?
[06:56] <_Dasda> to truly tell you guys i dont see the need to upgrade to 9.10 but becasue there are no problems with 9.04 at all. However, I want to continue to experiment with linux and learn and best way to learn is keep messing up
[06:56] <Shwack> Will there be no upgrade to Grub 2 unless you do a clean install?
[06:56] <KitsuneDr> still a reboot come on windows ;)
[06:56] <Whiper> merma: Please tell me the name of application
[06:56] <aquachica> lizzzy: My last Microsoft OS is XP.  I am done with them.
[06:56] <merma> Whiper,  http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/files/
[06:56] <gaara_> anyone got any clue how come rhythmbox does not have themes?
[06:56] <Tesssa> eh win7 is good
[06:56] <merma> Whiper, you'll need to compile it
[06:56] <aquachica> lizzzy: Hence my frustration with 9.10.
[06:56] <strabon> oo
[06:56] <CubeCat> theme it your self
[06:57] <skysong> Tesssa: its good until you need to transfer >100GB from one hdd to another..
[06:57] <ElectRo`> new stacks, new sploits in win7
[06:57] <KitsuneDr> Devon: the creator changed the site to look really messy and noobish like code showing it was hilarious because that's what some geocity sites looked like XD
[06:57] <Shwack> Dasda, will there be an upgrade to grub anytime soon as I am already using ext4?
[06:57] <Tesssa> ah well i do have terragig HD big enough for me
[06:57] <CubeCat> not trying to be a fan boy but i like snow leopard more than win7
[06:57] <Whiper> merma
[06:57] <_Dasda> Shwack, im not the best source. I have asked same question and people have told me that the only way is to do a clean install
[06:58] <devon> kitsunedr: nice.  did u notice the "the algorighm" text at the bottom of the page?
[06:58] <Tesssa> i do have a mac as well
[06:58] <_Dasda> Shwack: what do you plan to do if u get Grub2?
[06:58] <skysong> Tesssa: yes but you tried transferring huge amount of stuffs from one hdd to another?
[06:58] <Shwack> Dasda, thx.  not really looking forward to doing clean installs of linux every time
[06:58] <CubeCat> hackintosh lol
[06:58] <devon> tessa: high five!  i am also split btwn mac and ubuntu!
[06:58] <Whiper> merma: hey can you help to compile it since i am a beginner or provide me a .deb file
[06:58] <_Dasda> Shwack: as far as im concerned Grub2 is not necessary for me
[06:58] <lizzzy> aquachica: My last MS 0S was MS ME (the millenium edition)!!!  I use XP at my university. Better than ME, fo sho
[06:58] <Tesssa> not i dont have 2 hard drives so the problem didnt arise
[06:58] <devon> _dasda: whats the advantage of grub2 again?
[06:58] <merma> Whiper, did you download the tar file?
[06:58] <lizzzy> So, I don't have a menu.lst or a grub.conf file :(
[06:58] <_Dasda> Devon: no clue bro
[06:59] <Whiper> merma: yes
[06:59] <KitsuneDr> wow thanks merma I thought you weren't going to tell him but is this passable through the Internet
[06:59] <Merlin_> haha
[06:59] <Whiper> merma: can we do a private chat
[06:59] <Hald> Back to Pidgin again!
[06:59] <KitsuneDr> Devon: no I didn't....
[06:59] <lizzzy> Hey, does 9.10 use grub or grub-pc?
[06:59] <aquachica> lizzzy: That's another thing I dislike about this newer version: the fact that they are no longer including Pidgin.
[06:59] <wd4lko> Whiper: synaptic has keylogger
[07:00] <devon> _dasda: wow epic it has like image backgrounds and like almost a gui!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (i just googled it)
[07:00] <Hald> empathy was just a pain in the but. Not ready for use
[07:00] <lizzzy> aquachica: Quassel is not too bad.
[07:00] <Whiper> please name it i will search
[07:00] <Shwack> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT_cQvWd9Sk
[07:00] <_Dasda> devon: if grub has time to show images then that means its taking long. I dont want that then
[07:00] <_Dasda> lol
[07:00] <Tesssa> but have been advised  to wait untill april 2010 for 10.4 to come out
[07:00] <Shwack> That video suggests and Upgrade to Grub2 is possible
[07:00] <wd4lko> Whiper: lkl
[07:00] <_Dasda> right now my grub screen is like 2 secs
[07:00] <_Dasda> saying grub loading. press esc to enter menu and 2 sec clock countdown
[07:01] <devon> kitsunedr: the text says "We did not invent the algorithm. The algorithm consistently finds Jesus. The algorithm killed Jeeves.  The algorithm is banned in China. The algorithm is from Jersey. The algorithm constantly finds Jesus.  This is not the algorithm. This is close."  its hijacking yahoo's ad campaign.
[07:01] <devon> _dasda: but it looks so cooooooooool :)
[07:01] <vegombrei> what is the best hard drive partitioning tool
[07:01] <KitsuneDr> I hope 10.04 is much stabeler although I do like fedora slot too bad it doesn't have a wubi
[07:01] <skysong> vegombrei: gparted
[07:01] <Merlin_> #_Dasda go to menu.lst and change it
[07:01] <KitsuneDr> gparted
[07:01] <merma> fedora 11 was very good
[07:01] <merma> fedora 11 and ubuntu 9.10 tied up in my opinion
[07:01] <_Dasda> Merlin: change what?
[07:02] <Tesssa> well it seems it will be the 18month release
[07:02] <lizzzy> merma: F11 is awesome.
[07:02] <KitsuneDr> Devon: lol
[07:02] <_Dasda> what does f11 do?
[07:02] <Hald> who knows!
[07:02] <frankbro> If anyone has some free time, id appreciate it if you could help me in pm. I just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and i'm experiencing some trouble. Not a ubuntu noob but not an expert either. Thx a lot in advance.
[07:02] <_Dasda> i learned alt +f2 today. kinda cool. its kinda like "run" for windows
[07:03] <KitsuneDr> Fedora 12 looks pretty impressive too very quick but the live cd had a lot of issues for me at least
[07:03] <merma> _Dasda, press alt+ctrk F2
[07:03] <Tesssa> no doubt the problems with 9.10 will be sorted by then
[07:03] <devon> frankbro: what seem to be your problems?
[07:03] <C-S-B> _Dasda, you might like gnome-do
[07:03] <_Dasda> merma yea i learned that today
[07:03] <merma> gnome-do is a must
[07:03] <_Dasda> C-S-B whats gnome-do?
[07:03] <aquachica> frankbro: What kind of trouble?
[07:03] <lizzzy> sudo grub: command not found :(
[07:03] <KitsuneDr> gnome do?
[07:04] <devon> speaking of booting (ok i was), my boot sequence is all messed up.  anyone wanna help me?
[07:04] <adonai2009> thnak you any way
[07:04] <tking> How do I create a multipart archive volume? I have a 1gb file that is just too large to fit on my USB drive, how do I split it up? It also needs to be able to merge back into a single file on windows :\
[07:04] <KitsuneDr> the reason 9.10 has problems though is because it changed so many things
[07:04] <C-S-B> _Dasda, google it then install. it's great. run programs, open files and play music by typing what you want to do.
[07:04] <danopia> where's hte web interface to brwose packages? i can't find it
[07:04] <trench-> can someone help me sort out a kopete issue? having probs recieving incoming cam...i found out that i need libjasperl my question is how do I add this to PATH variable?
[07:04] <_Dasda> let me google gnome-do
[07:04] <quimkaos> guys i removed the main panel by accident, is there anyway to recover it
[07:04] <devon> _dasda: f11 they meant fedora 11
[07:05] <_Dasda> devon: oh ok
[07:05] <_Dasda> C-S-B ye that sounds cool
[07:05] <C-S-B> _Dasda, install it :) you'll never use the menu again
[07:05] <KitsuneDr> _Dasda: sorry /ashamed/ ishall google first
[07:05] <lizzzy> Ok, so I'm having some grub issues. Should I install grub, grub-pc or grub2?
[07:06] <Shwack> I found a better Grub2 Upgrade tutorial
[07:06] <lizzzy> So that "sudo grub" will work?
[07:06] <Shwack> devon Dasda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hlsK7q8uns&feature=related
[07:06] <C-S-B> lizzzy, grub2 working pretty well!
[07:06] <lizzzy> C-S-B: I installed it, but "sudo grub" won't work anymore :(
[07:06] <KitsuneDr> quimkaos: yes and no you can bring it back but it will be missing things and I don't know of any way to recover it besides adding a new panel
[07:07] <frankbro> sorry for the disconnect, crappy internet. So like i said, if anyone can help me with a bug from upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, would be appreciated. Thx in advance.
[07:07] <_Dasda> what does grub 2 really do that grub1 cant?
[07:07] <C-S-B> lizzzy, sudo grub doesnt work in grub2
[07:07] <Trezker> frankbro, what bug?
[07:07] <Shwack> Dasda http://techie-buzz.com/daily-linux/upgrade-to-grub2.html
[07:08] <frankbro> Or if anyone knows anything about not being able to activate propritary driver in jockey-gtk
[07:08] <C-S-B> _Dasda, its a rewrite, it's better imo. booting iso's is a nice feature
[07:08] <Lavagolemking1> I need some advice on removing a KDE installation from Ubuntu.
[07:08] <C-S-B> and ext4 boot partitions
[07:08] <_Dasda> thanks shwack
[07:08] <ziroday> Lavagolemking1: what do you want to leave behind?
[07:08] <Shwack> Dasda: np
[07:08] <quimkaos> seams sudo debconf gnome-panel can work
[07:08] <devon> lavagolemking1: omg so do i.  i also installed xfce
[07:08] <Lavagolemking1> Nothing, if possible. I want it back to running Gnome as it was when first installed.
[07:09] <lizzzy_> ciclo: Did you get my last message? That I did install grub2, but sudo grub won't work. Also, I don't have a grub.conf or menu.lst file :(
[07:09] <devon> lavagolemking: my startup screen says kubuntu, and my login screen says xubuntu.  how about you?
[07:09] <Lavagolemking1> My mother has sudo access, and my brother social engineered his way into her account (I'm away at school).
[07:09] <C-S-B> lizzy_ you dont have 'sudo grub' anymore or a menu.lst
[07:09] <Lavagolemking1> My brother knows only enough to be dangerous, and she is computer illiterate.
[07:09] <Shwack> lizzzy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hlsK7q8uns&feature=related
[07:09] <C-S-B> lizzzy_, with grub2 its different.
[07:09] <KitsuneDr> oh gnome-do is what sabayon has on start
[07:10] <wd4lko> quimkaos: right click on the other panel and add new
[07:10] <mdgeorge1> hello
[07:10] <lizzzy_> C-S-B: sudo grub: command not found. Also, I got no menu.lst or grub.conf file :(
[07:10] <Lavagolemking1> Problem is, my brother tried to install KDE as a pre-requisite for making Ubuntu "look like a Mac" and now no windows managers will load (at all).
[07:10] <KitsuneDr> hi
[07:10] <lizzzy_> !hi | KitsuneDr
[07:10] <C-S-B> lizzzy_, thats correct, you have no menu.lst
[07:10] <mdgeorge1> I upgraded to karmic recently, and some of my games have become unusable
[07:10] <lizzzy_> C-S-B: I don't have a grub.conf either
[07:11] <mdgeorge1> I think what's happening is that whenever the spacebar is down, mouse events are not generated
[07:11] <mdgeorge1> makes it impossible to play things like fps's
[07:11] <mdgeorge1> anyone have any thoughts?
[07:11] <KitsuneDr> mdgeorge1: you too?
[07:11] <C-S-B> lizzzy_, thats ok. try grub.cfg
[07:11] <mdgeorge1> KitsuneDr: ?
[07:11] <lizzzy_> kewl C-S-B :)
[07:11] <Lavagolemking1> I need to reverse the changes, removing anything related to KDE, so I can have GDM running again, then reset the login window (and splash screen) to something that's not broken.
[07:11] <C-S-B> lizzzy_, grub2 is different.
[07:12] <lizzzy_> oh ok
[07:12] <C-S-B> lizzzy_, and don't go manually editing grub.cfg, theres stuff in /etc/default/grub ( iirc)
[07:12] <KitsuneDr> mdgeorge1: I couldn't play OA after the upgrade because of sound and lag
[07:12] <C-S-B> lizzzy_, you need to read up and learn up grub2
[07:12] <Merlin_> What does sudo sshd-generate do?
[07:12] <lizzzy_> C-S-B: Will do that now. :)
[07:12] <mdgeorge1> KitsuneDr: in fact, I just noticed that in general, holding down a key freezes the mouse
[07:12] <bthomson> anybody get problems with ubuntu crash in resume in 9.10
[07:12] <mdgeorge1> that's definitely the problem
[07:14] <bthomson> not good
[07:14] <KitsuneDr> mdgeoege1: that doesn't matter for me any more anyway because after enabling some special compiz effects I login and my desktop freezes right away and I don't know why so I did a new install of mint this time (wubi)
[07:14] <Lavagolemking1> Can someone please point me to a good reference on removing KDE and restoring gnome/nautilus?
[07:14] <mdgeorge1> KitsuneDr: :(
[07:15] <devon> i would also like help in this too
[07:15] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone use eclipse visual editor?
[07:15] <KitsuneDr> mdgeorge1: everyone says Linux is stable but not for me because I like to expirement and this is like the tenth reinstall XD
[07:16] <merma> KitsuneDr, just 10?
[07:16] <mdgeorge1> Lavagolemking1: I must be tired, I read your nick as "lovemaking1"
[07:16] <KitsuneDr> no wait it was more I lost count a while ago
[07:17] <KitsuneDr> mdgeorgw1: lol
[07:17] <courpse> How do i use locate to find files > 5MB?
[07:17] <Hadi> I got a question
[07:17] <Hadi> not about UBunutu
[07:17] <Lavagolemking1> It's not lovemaking, but the 1 is because Pidgin (again) didn't tell me I need to ghost myself.
[07:17] <KitsuneDr> courpse: I think there is an option under search there's a (plus) button I think
[07:18] <millertimek1a2m3> anyone use eclipse VE?
[07:18] <Hadi> Will the creation of the ip end someday ?
[07:18] <courpse> KitsuneDr, im in terminal.
[07:18] <millertimek1a2m3> i just want to know how to open up the pane that you use to add things to whatever you're editing visually
[07:18] <KitsuneDr> courpse: sorry I can't help I'm just a begginer my self ^^
[07:18] <millertimek1a2m3> in eclipse visual editor
[07:19] <courpse> kk.
[07:19] <millertimek1a2m3> courpse: got any bash chm files? if you read those they will help
[07:19] <lizzzy_> k, so, here's the thing. I'm trying to change the appearance of grub. Did it earlier by tweaking the menu.lst appearance settings, not sure what do I do now :(
[07:19] <Lavagolemking> ziroday: I'd like nothing related to KDE left behind, just a default Gnome installation.
[07:19] <Hadi> Will the creation of the ip end someday ?
[07:19] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, why not use netbeans?
[07:19] <millertimek1a2m3> courpse: there's more than one search function in bash. like... grep. find locate. they all do similar things
[07:19] <ziroday> !puregnome | Lavagolemking
[07:19] <KitsuneDr> Gnome is the best kde is too messy
[07:19] <courpse> yeah, can do it find.
[07:19] <courpse> Was just wondering if locate didi t.
[07:19] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: because I was using eclipse at work, and I'm a freshman in college. I'm still learning java
[07:19] <mdgeorge1> Hadi: what's "the ip"?
[07:19] <lizzzy_> KitsuneDr: No, KDE is awesome.
[07:20] <Hadi> mdgeorge1 IP address
[07:20] <durt> millertimek1a2m3, you might want to ask in #eclipse
[07:20] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: how do i use the pane thing that lets me drag and drop features onto the window i'm editing
[07:20] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, creating GUI's in netbeans is 100X easier, editing code on eclipse is nicer thoug
[07:20] <mdgeorge1> what do you mean about the creation of the ip?
[07:20] <joeb3__> courpse, find / -size 5M
[07:20] <KitsuneDr> lizzy: says you :D
[07:20] <ElectRo`> Hadi, ipv4 will run out someday
[07:20] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, i don't know
[07:20] <lizzzy_> KitsuneDr: Says all.
[07:21] <courpse> joeb3__, i said i can do it in find, was wondering if locate did it,.
[07:21] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: really? so they have advantages? like one is more oriented for one thing than the other?
[07:21] <KitsuneDr> lizzy: except for me lol
[07:21] <madsj> courpse: the manual does not mention any way to do this (any options)
[07:21] <courpse> yeah, :/
[07:21] <Lavagolemking> No opinions on window managers, so no hard feelings to all you KDE people. :)
[07:21] <Lavagolemking> I just have a defiant brother who social engineered sudo from his mother, tried to install KDE (and some other garbage to make it look like a Mac) and now nothing will load.
[07:21] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, oh yeah, each has their strength
[07:21] <Lavagolemking> I'm just trying to reverse the changes.
[07:22] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: well i have netbeans on my ubuntu as well...
[07:22] <lizzzy_> Anyway, how do I modify the grub appearance? Anyone who's already done it?
[07:22] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, you can try making a GUI with it, it's very nice
[07:22] <millertimek1a2m3> i could use it. but if I was to start using it, how would I be able to use 2 different IDE's to make one program
[07:22] <millertimek1a2m3> ?
[07:22] <KitsuneDr> lavagolemking1: lol social engineering fail
[07:22] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: prev mess
[07:23] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, you could do everything in netbeans, or copy code created in eclipse into netbeans
[07:23] <ravenger> can any body help me with the installation of win xp iside linux and want the dual boot
[07:23] <millertimek1a2m3> ah
[07:23] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, you could just learn how to use the VE in eclipse too, it's probably worth it
[07:23] <Lavagolemking> KitsuneDr: No, he succeeded in social engineering, then put himself in like every single root-related group and made a second user.
[07:23] <ravenger> is there a  way
[07:23] <ravenger> ?
[07:23] <Dayofswords> ravenger, why inside linux?
[07:23] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: is it worth it to keep them segregated? are their specialty abilities that great of a difference?
[07:23] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, coding in eclipse is a pleasure
[07:24] <Dayofswords> virtualize?
[07:24] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: I was planning on learning VE
[07:24] <durt> !dualboot | ravenger
[07:24] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: ok well back to the orig Question-how do I draw up the pane that lets me drag and drop features onto the window i'm editing
[07:24] <Lavagolemking> KitsuneDr: It's the "make it look like a Mac" part that failed, which spread throughout the system.
[07:24] <lizzzy_> eclipse is better in ubuntu.
[07:24] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, people tend to pick one, they don't separate them, still each is better at specific tasks, more advanced things
[07:25] <KitsuneDr> lavalgolemking1: I know but what i meant was that he used social engineering and then created a fail with it
[07:25] <millertimek1a2m3> merma: prev question please!
[07:25] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, i don't know
[07:25] <KitsuneDr> lavagolemking: what was wrong with gnome-look.org dl a mac theme and then awn?
[07:26] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, i've never used VE
[07:26] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone know how to draw up the pane (in eclipse using VE) that lets me drag and drop features onto the window i'm editing
[07:26] <Lavagolemking> KitsuneDr: Yep. Also an epic fail on my mom's part. We all know that's how he operates, but she still fell for it and now the system is hosed without me there to help for the next few weeks.
[07:26] <ravenger> Dayofswords: becauz i had already installed ubuntu and now i had requirement of xp and i tried for virtualization but my system is very slow even with 1gb ram . so ........ i got go for the dual boot
[07:26] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, you could try Jigloo, I think it's the most popular gui editor for Eclipse
[07:26] <titanicheart> how to copy files as "root" to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:26] <millertimek1a2m3> really? so there's more than one GUI editor?
[07:26] <merma> titanicheart, using sudo?
[07:26] <millertimek1a2m3> for a single IDE?
[07:26] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, yes
[07:27] <merma> millertimek1a2m3, at least for eclipse
[07:27] <titanicheart> merma:  guide me
[07:27] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone know how to draw up the pane (in eclipse using VE) that lets me drag and drop features onto the window i'm editing
[07:27] <shankhs> Why is add-apt-repository giving command not found? Please
[07:27] <millertimek1a2m3> thanks merma
[07:27] <wgrant> shankhs: It's only available on Ubuntu 9.10 and later, IIRC.
[07:27] <merma> titanicheart, sudo cp file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/file
[07:27] <shankhs> wgrant: thanx
[07:27] <Lavagolemking> KitsuneDr: I've never dabbled in what he's trying to do. However, he wants EVERYTHING to look like a Mac (splash screen, login window, and he'd screw with the BIOS if he knew how).
[07:28] <G226> Question: I'm using Ubuntu 9.10, trying to install Rosetta Stone 3.3.5 using WineHQ 1.0.1. I get a "Rosetta Stone version 3 Setup Wizard ended prematurely" error and it doesn't install, I left the default install location of "C:\Program Files\Rosetta Stone\Rosetta Stone Version 3\" should I change that and maybe that's the problem?
[07:29] <G226> (I tried #winehq but they're all asleep, their appdb for wine says "everything" works with 3.3.5)
[07:29] <KitsuneDr> lavagolemking: hope you fix it allthough shouldn't it be possible to completly remove kde and then gnome -- replace?
[07:29] <devon> kitsunedr, what about running kde apps?
[07:30] <titanicheart> merma: File not found
[07:30] <mdgeorge1> KitsuneDr: I found a solution to the mouse problem if you're interested
[07:30] <Lavagolemking> KitsuneDr: His punishment is that every single thing he tried to install will be sacked and never replaced (he might have got it if by honesty).
[07:30] <devon> kitsunedr: as in like kde apps under gnome
[07:30] <merma> titanicheart, what did you type?
[07:30] <Banjooie> so let's say I followed some very bad advice
[07:30] <titanicheart> merma: 'No Such File or Directory' is displayed
[07:30] <titanicheart> cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:30] <Banjooie> and rm'd /var/lib/dpkg/lock under feisty
[07:30] <Banjooie> is there anything I can do to fix this
[07:31] <KitsuneDr> lavagolemking: if he wants mac that bad just build a hackintosh
[07:31] <Shu> Before I switched to Ubuntu, I was on Windows XP, and had windows media player, which has the ability for file sharing, and was able to connect my video library to my xbox, and watch any movie on my computer on my xbox. Now I don't have WMP and can't get it because this isn't windows. So, in need of help.
[07:31] <merma> titanicheart, you need to be where you downloaded libglashplayer.so
[07:31] <durt> Banjooie, it sould automatically be created the next time something uses apt.
[07:31] <merma> probably in downloads
[07:31] <titanicheart> ok
[07:31] <merma> titanicheart, so you have to cd Downloads
[07:31] <Lavagolemking> KitsuneDr: Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Right now either gnome is broken/missing, and I want Gnome loading again.
[07:31] <Banjooie> well
[07:31] <Banjooie> that's the thing
[07:31] <Banjooie> ever /since/ I did that
[07:31] <shankhs> Lavagolemking: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23 can be helpful!
[07:31] <Banjooie> every time I try to apt-get anything
[07:31] <FloodBot2> Banjooie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <merma> titanicheart, or maybe in Desktop, wherever you downloaded it
[07:32] <titanicheart> merma: what is the command for listing directories??
[07:32] <merma> titanicheart, ls
[07:32] <shankhs> titanicheart: ls
[07:32] <trench-> hi everyone...how do I add to PATH variable? need to add libjasper...I'm using kubuntu 9.10
[07:32] <Banjooie> okay: ever since I did that, /var/lib/dpkg/lock always says it's open (11 resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:32] <Shu> Before I switched to Ubuntu, I was on Windows XP, and had windows media player, which has the ability for file sharing, and was able to connect my video library to my xbox, and watch any movie on my computer on my xbox. Now I don't have WMP and can't get it because this isn't windows. So, in need of help.
[07:32] <titanicheart> nothing happens with ls
[07:32] <lstarnes> trench-: export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[07:32] <Lavagolemking> KitsuneDr: Thing is, it's not his computer, but my mom's laptop that she is letting him use. She doesn't like the Mac interface (and neither do I).
[07:32] <merma> titanicheart, well because the folder is empty
[07:32] <adonai2009> please some one help , make save configs on a live usb pen ubuntu 8.04 and see all there after showtdown
[07:32] <titanicheart> merma:  when i type ls the cursor goes to next line of terminal
[07:33] <merma> titanicheart, check were you downloaded the file
[07:33] <titanicheart> i am right now at root@prashant-laptop
[07:33] <shankhs> titanicheart: nothing is in the dir
[07:33] <merma> with the graphical interface
[07:33] <trench-> thanks lstarnes
[07:33] <merma> titanicheart,
[07:33] <Shu> Someone please help me. Before I switched to Ubuntu, I was on Windows XP, and had windows media player, which has the ability for file sharing, and was able to connect my video library to my xbox, and watch any movie on my computer on my xbox. Now I don't have WMP and can't get it because this isn't windows. So, in need of help.
[07:33] <durt> Banjooie, do you have something running like update manager, synaptic, or apt-get?
[07:33] <merma> titanicheart, type exit
[07:33] <DasEi> adonai2009: what do you want to save ?
[07:33] <merma> titanicheart, you must use your account
[07:33] <_Dasda> shu, use any program with cifs sharing
[07:34] <gonzoism> shu you want either samba for file sharing, or upnp (i think)
[07:34] <_Dasda> i dont know which is god for ubuntu though since i have never used it
[07:34] <titanicheart> i am using my account only
[07:34] <Shu> _Dasda, I don't know what that is
[07:34] <wers> what's the package of the ubuntu slideshow? :)
[07:34] <Banjooie> Durt: shouldn't be, lemme reboot it again and see if that helps
[07:34] <Shu> gonzoism, whats samba?
[07:34] <_Dasda> shit, anyone know a good cifs share mounter that Shu can use?
[07:34] <Lavagolemking> My brother is just being a spoiled brat and going behind mom's back to install things she doesn't want without her permission.
[07:34] <merma> titanicheart, close the terminal, open a new one
[07:34] <titanicheart> ok
[07:35] <adonai2009> DasEi , the config of keybord layout m wirless driver , because aafter showdown i got to config all again , and install programs too
[07:35] <lstarnes> Shu: it's a file sharing system similar to windows's sharing
[07:35] <titanicheart> opened
[07:35] <_Dasda> Shu, i could help you more if i didnt have update runnng on my computer
[07:35] <titanicheart> merma: opened
[07:35] <hipitihop> is there a way to preserve the majority of packages downloaded during an upgrade andcopy those to another machine so that an upgrade on each machine does not have to re-download again ?
[07:35] <titanicheart> merma:prashant@prashant-laptop:~$
[07:35] <merma> titanicheart, go to the folder were you downloaded the file
[07:35] <durt> Banjooie, what is this windows? no need to reboot every time you change something.
[07:35] <Sirisian> why is it that ubuntu when building a kernel randomly tells you the directory isn't clean and says to run make mrproper which deletes debian/rules making it impossible to build the kernel.  arg bugs
[07:35] <Shu> lstarnes, just get it in package manager?
[07:35] <titanicheart> how shud i go to folder where i downloaded ..im in terminal
[07:36] <gonzoism> i'm having a problem with compiz i think.  sometimes when i use alt-tab the screen gets all garbly.  I've tried adjusting refresh rates.  I've been searching google for a while and haven't had luck.  I've been trying to fix this for 3 days.  I have a screenshot of what is happening.
[07:36] <lstarnes> Shu: I think it might be installed by default, but check the package manager
[07:36] <Banjooie> Durt: my installation has a variety of issues I am trying to tackle one at a time. One of these includes the seeming inability to close all the stuff trying to apt-get
[07:36] <shankhs> titanicheart: name the folder
[07:36] <shankhs> titanicheart: where it is
[07:36] <DasEi> adonai2009: programms don't get lost by shutdown, also isn't keyboard, are you running live cd ??
[07:36] <Roasted> Does anybody know of a way I can convert a flash video to an mp3? I tried sound converter but it doesnt allow me to pick flash videos.
[07:36] <Banjooie> Once this works, I still have to make libc6 or whatever stop throwing up its error message
[07:36] <merma> titanicheart, cd nameOfTheFolder
[07:36] <gonzoism> shu google will give you a better answer than me, but samba is file and printer sharing
[07:36] <shankhs> titanicheart: merma +1