[08:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:18] <dude> AWOSDev: one more problem or maybe the last one
[08:18] <AWOSDev> dude, okay
[08:18] <AWOSDev> akrus, on that note, I'd head to #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:18] <akrus> actually I followed the instructions, but I still cannot get it to work o_O
[08:18] <akrus> hm
[08:18] <akrus> okay :)
[08:18] <ubuntu> ok i'm trying to scan the hard drive and it says 116 cluster mismatches
[08:18] <ubuntu> i'm trying to resize my windows partition
[08:18] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, yuckers, on Windows?
[08:19] <ubuntu> im in the kubuntu live cd right now
[08:19] <AWOSDev> That was that error I ever got on my only failed hard drive
[08:19] <AWOSDev> the last that is
[08:19] <ubuntu> ok should i do a checkdisk and then try it?
[08:19] <AWOSDev> Only one hard drive that has ever died on me, yep that's what it said
[08:19] <AWOSDev> Yes yes yes yes
[08:19] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, using 2000?
[08:19] <ubuntu> no
[08:19] <AWOSDev> NT 4?
[08:19] <dude> AWOSDev: i usually connect to the office via remote desktop(Xp) any suggestion for kubuntu
[08:19] <ubuntu> xp on the other partition
[08:19] <ubuntu> its not even my computer its a friend's
[08:19] <ubuntu> he saw me using XGL and now he wants it lmao
[08:20] <AWOSDev> dude, Remote Desktop, hold on
[08:20] <akrus> hm
[08:20] <akrus> but anyway lol
[08:20] <akrus>  /dev/dri/card0 <-- why is it missing? (as well as card1, card2 etc.)
[08:20] <AWOSDev> dude, try krdc
[08:21] <ubuntu> ok
[08:21] <ubuntu> k i'm really tired
[08:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu, yes run chkdsk
[08:21] <ubuntu> its 2 in the morning
[08:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu okay g'night :)
[08:21] <AWOSDev> Actually 2:20am
[08:21] <ubuntu> i'll do chkdisk tomorrow
[08:21] <ubuntu> lol smartass
[08:21] <ubuntu> ok bye everyone
[08:21] <dude> AWOSDev: download kdrc?
[08:22] <AWOSDev> dude, yes          sudo apt-get install krdc
[08:22] <dude> AWOSDev: tnx
[08:22] <rawrness> whats the term of the screen  you log in at
[08:22] <AWOSDev> k r d c, thats Kilo Robert Delta Charlie.  (you said kDrc, so I'm making sure you spell it right.)
[08:23] <dude> AWOSDev: what the equivalent of terminal window in kubuntu?
[08:23] <AWOSDev> rawrness, the uh login screen?
[08:23] <Jucato> KDM? Login Screen?
[08:23] <rawrness> I forgot what i did to change it.....
[08:23] <AWOSDev> dude, Konsole.
[08:24] <AWOSDev> dude, KDE Menu->System->Konsole if you can't find it
[08:24] <jarn> I had assigned some window specific settings for Konsole and they worked great. However, they got reset. The only change I made to anything was to restart X to get my fonts working.
[08:24] <dude> AWOSDev: ok, tnx
[08:25] <AWOSDev> jarn, had you ever restarted X before?
[08:25] <AWOSDev> *YES*, that was a serious question..
[08:25] <rawrness> of course it is
[08:25] <rawrness> mine crashes half the time i restart mine :P
[08:26] <jarn> AWOSDev:yes
[08:26] <AWOSDev> jarn, then no clue
[08:26] <jarn> AWOSDev: I had not done it since putting in these settings, though.
[08:27] <AWOSDev> Okay then that explains it.
[08:27] <AWOSDev> Don't restart X and you'll be fine.
[08:27] <AWOSDev> sorry, that's my only suggestion.
[08:27] <jarn> But they don't work NOW.
[08:28] <jarn> So I'm not fine. :/
[08:28] <m_tadeu> my volume keys refuse to work
[08:28] <m_tadeu> all media keys are working except for the volume keys
[08:29] <AWOSDev> m_tadeu, as in what, WIN + or what?
[08:30] <m_tadeu> AWOSDev: you know those media keyboards? with keys to volume up/down and mute? play, stop, etc?
[08:30] <jarn> m_tadeu: Mine work... Just set them as global shortcuts.
[08:31] <rawrness> ahh i figured out what i was looking for kdm files :P
[08:31] <AWOSDev> m_tadeu, yeah I have one, none of them work :P
[08:31] <m_tadeu> jarn: I did that...the keys are mapped correctly and the shortcuts configured
[08:32] <m_tadeu> AWOSDev: hehe just find a similar keyboard and map them :)
[08:33] <AWOSDev> m_tadeu, I have the original Linux-implemented Multimedia Keyboard IIRC, the 1998 Compaq Internet/MM Keyboard.
[08:33] <morghanphoenix> !restricted
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[08:33] <morghanphoenix> Thanks little bot buddy
[08:34] <AWOSDev> You've been such a good little bot
[08:34] <AWOSDev> !botsnack
[08:34] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:34] <dude_> AWOSDev: what i mean is that the connect btton is not highlighted when i enter
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> ARGH!
[08:35] <AWOSDev> dude_, hmm?
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> Has no installation candidate again
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> stupid repos
[08:35] <morghanphoenix> same problem as before with repos
[08:36] <fdoving> what's the problem with the repos?
[08:36] <morghanphoenix> telling me packages don't exist
[08:37] <morghanphoenix> updating, again, hopefully it'll work now
[08:37] <fdoving> hmm.
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[08:38] <fdoving> what package?
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> I have all the repos enabled and it still keeps giving me this
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> libxine-extracodecs
[08:38] <AWOSDev> dude_, you mean in krdc?
[08:38] <akrus> multiverse?
[08:38] <fdoving> no errors during 'apt-get update' / adept fetch updates ?
[08:38] <morghanphoenix> and akode and arts and everything
[08:39] <morghanphoenix> done, completly updated, all repos enabled.
[08:39] <jarn> morghanphoenix: Even the multiverse?
[08:39] <morghanphoenix> yup
[08:39] <dude_> AWOSDev: yes
[08:39] <morghanphoenix> universe, multiverse, backports etc.
[08:39] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: what does 'apt-cache madison libxine-extracodecs' return?
[08:40] <morghanphoenix> nothing
[08:40] <jarn> morghanphoenix: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[08:40] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: what about 'apt-cache madison dsniff' ?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> fdoving: I thnk you mean "apt-cache search", or maybe "apt-cache show"
[08:41] <fdoving> thoreauputic: i don't.
[08:41] <morghanphoenix> universe only
[08:42] <morghanphoenix> I enabled multiverse, wtf?
[08:42] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> fdoving: ah, interesting - I learnt something, thanks :)
[08:42] <fdoving> thoreauputic: you're welcome :)
[08:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:42] <morghanphoenix> !pastebin
[08:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:44] <morghanphoenix> there it is, just basic list, might need to source-o-matic it
[08:44] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: if you pastebin it i can tell you whats wrong with it,and why multiverse doesn't work.
[08:44] <morghanphoenix> it's there
[08:44] <fdoving> url?
[08:45] <morghanphoenix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26840/
[08:45] <fdoving> thanks.
[08:45] <dude_> AWOSDev: you there?
[08:45] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: you don't have multiverse enabled.
[08:46] <morghanphoenix> oh, crap, I was looking at backports
[08:46] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: open adept (kmenu -> system -> adept) in the 'Adept menu' select 'Manage repositories'
[08:47] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: find the lines where the 'Component' column says 'universe', doubleclick on universe and add multiverse at the end, it should say 'universe multiverse', do that for both lines.
[08:47] <morghanphoenix> yeah, I know, wasn't paying close enough attention
[08:48] <morghanphoenix> hmm, no multiverse
[08:48] <fdoving> what?
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> not there
[08:49] <dude_> AWOSDev: you there?
[08:49] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: where?
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> no multiverse in the list
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> I'm gonna source-o-matic it.
[08:49] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: look for 'universe' - doubleclick 'universe' and edit it to say 'universe multiverse'
[08:50] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: repeat the process for the second line with 'universe' as component.
[08:50] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: this is easier than source-o-maticing :)
[08:50] <morghanphoenix> done
[08:51] <fdoving> now 'apply' -> 'close' -> 'fetch updates'
[08:52] <morghanphoenix> right back to universe only
[08:52] <fdoving> what?
[08:53] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: you have to press 'enter' when you want to save when editing the repositories in adept.
[08:54] <dude_> AWOSDev: you there?
[08:54] <dude_> who knows how to configure krdc
[08:56] <morghanphoenix> I know, and I did
[08:56] <morghanphoenix> does apt-get do distro upgrades?
[09:02] <Brydenn33> hey
[09:02] <Brydenn33> when you are compiling from source...
[09:03] <morghanphoenix> woah, a live one!
[09:03] <Brydenn33> how do you install so that it creates a .deb so it can more easily be uninstalled later?
[09:03] <Brydenn33> hehe hi morghanphoenix
[09:03] <morghanphoenix> checkinstall
[09:03] <fdoving> morghanphoenix: yes, apt-get can do distro-upgrades.
[09:03] <Brydenn33> when do you type check install?
[09:03] <Brydenn33> after ./configure or make
[09:03] <fdoving> after 'make'
[09:03] <Brydenn33> thanks guys
[09:03] <fdoving> it's a 'make install' replacement.
[09:03] <Brydenn33> hey fdoving
[09:04] <Brydenn33> you helped me a few hours ago haha you rock
[09:04] <fdoving> hi brydenn33 :)
[09:04] <Brydenn33> so when i do "make install" it will show up in Adept-Manager right
[09:04] <Brydenn33> so i can uninstall from there if i so choose
[09:04] <rawrness> you could just sit for hours on kde look just at splash screens
[09:04] <morghanphoenix> lol
[09:04] <Brydenn33> rawrness: i have
[09:04] <Brydenn33> hehe
[09:04] <Brydenn33> but i like the moodin one best
[09:04] <fdoving> Brydenn33: when you don't do 'make install', but instead do 'checkinstall' it will show up in adept
[09:05] <Brydenn33> with the fingerprint thing
[09:05] <morghanphoenix> Fresh install, my computer is pretty boring atm
[09:05] <rawrness> strangly anouth 27  pages and only 1 i like
[09:05] <Brydenn33> fdoving: thanks, thats what i thought
[09:05] <Brydenn33> i got a nice screen dump of my desktop morghanphoenix
[09:05] <AWOSDev> dude_, yes sorry, they did Evanescense's Making the Video on MTV3
[09:05] <Brydenn33> i'll link ya... take a look :)
[09:06] <Brydenn33> http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8407/snapshot1co0.png
[09:06] <morghanphoenix> source-o-matic done and working perfectly, don't know what was wrong before
[09:06] <fdoving> Brydenn33: just as a note, the .debs you make are -not- good for publishing. they are not very good quality.
[09:06] <Brydenn33> http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/997/snapshot2cl7.png
[09:06] <Brydenn33> yah i figured fdoving
[09:06] <Brydenn33> i'm sure they'd be more specific to my setup and not fit for anything else really
[09:07] <morghanphoenix> Search KDE Look for NeoBlue and you'll see what mine looked like before the reinstall
[09:07] <Brydenn33> i love my background and nVidia button hehe
[09:07] <morghanphoenix> That's a nice one
[09:07] <morghanphoenix> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39121
[09:07] <Brydenn33> yah that vector graphic of the hot chick with boxing gloves on is hot
[09:08] <morghanphoenix> check that one out, I know I didn't make it, but it fits my computer perfectly
[09:08] <morghanphoenix> Almost like it was made for me.
[09:08] <Brydenn33> thats pretty cool morghanphoenix
[09:08] <Brydenn33> omfg hobbsee
[09:08] <Brydenn33> havent seen that name in here for awhile
[09:08] <Brydenn33> that person's helped me before too
[09:09] <rawrness> whats exatcly is the diffrence between lilo and grub?
[09:09] <Brydenn33> lilo sucks
[09:09] <Brydenn33> less you can do with it
[09:09] <rawrness> just by  your comment about zsnes
[09:09] <rawrness> il take your work for it
[09:09] <morghanphoenix> I use snes9x
[09:09] <Brydenn33> haha
[09:09] <Brydenn33> yah they're both great programs
[09:10] <Brydenn33> if it works it works
[09:10] <morghanphoenix> I like lilo, better graphics
[09:10] <morghanphoenix> You can get great custom lilo themes
[09:10] <rawrness> so lilo is gui picture ish?
[09:10] <Brydenn33> fdoving:  so i type "sudo check install"
[09:11] <morghanphoenix> one word
[09:11] <rawrness> while grub is just command prompt like dodad
[09:11] <Brydenn33> k
[09:11] <fdoving> Brydenn33: 'sudo checkinstall'
[09:11] <AWOSDev> Ugh the last time I used LILO it did nothing but a graphical list, no options or anything.  Then again I last used it on Red Hat 5 :P
[09:11] <morghanphoenix> 1024x768x256 boot screen
[09:11] <Brydenn33> brydenn@c-67-169-218-218:~/zsnes_1_42/src$ sudo checkinstall
[09:11] <Brydenn33> sudo: checkinstall: command not found
[09:11] <Brydenn33> wtf?
[09:12] <rawrness> what aws everyones first experince with linux
[09:12] <fdoving> !checkinstall > brydenn33
[09:12] <morghanphoenix> debian
[09:12] <rawrness> mine was with fedora 5 having my mouse gone due to my card..
[09:12] <bmo_> you can get themes for grub.  http://debblue.debian.net/faq.php
[09:12] <rawrness> and having to mess with the boot command thingy
[09:13] <Brydenn33> my first experience was RedHat waaaaaaaaaayyyy back in the day
[09:13] <Brydenn33> then i played with SuSe for a day or two
[09:13] <morghanphoenix> slackware has a gui lilo tool in it, I'm sure there's one for debian systems too.
[09:13] <Brydenn33> then Mepis
[09:13] <Brydenn33> then this
[09:13] <Brydenn33> and i'm stayin with this
[09:13] <rawrness> This is good.
[09:13] <bmo_> who cares about boot themes anyway, I never reboot mine
[09:13] <Brydenn33> yah it is
[09:13] <rawrness> i have a hole cd case full of distros
[09:13] <Brydenn33> i'd like to learn some BSD though
[09:13] <Brydenn33> i heard BSD is pretty tight
[09:13] <morghanphoenix> I like slackware, just have some multimedia problems there so I'm sticking with Kubuntu 'till I get those worked out.
[09:14] <flaccid> tighter than ya mum
[09:14] <Brydenn33> yah well linux in general lacks in that area
[09:14] <AWOSDev> My first *real* experience was Red Hat 9, in 2003, bought off of eBay.
[09:14] <Brydenn33> they dont have any really good audio ripping apps
[09:14] <Brydenn33> and that blows
[09:14] <dude_> can u help me configure krdc?
[09:14] <AWOSDev> I Love BSD, FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE works well
[09:14] <Brydenn33> the best thing they have is RubyRipper
[09:14] <AWOSDev> dude_ sry no
[09:14] <Brydenn33> and it's not so good
[09:14] <Brydenn33> brb gotta read
[09:15] <dude_> AWOSDev: i can't connect
[09:15] <AWOSDev> dude_ I know, I can't either, I have no clue.
[09:15] <AWOSDev> :(
[09:15] <morghanphoenix> I hate that bar downstairs
[09:16] <rawrness> gag adding a boot screen for  grub is evil looking....
[09:16] <rawrness> black and white is good for me.......
[09:16] <bmo_> you know, this flew by, but as I looked up, I noticed the unintended irony : <flaccid> tighter than ya mum
[09:16] <morghanphoenix> It's live music night and they've got one of those bands that thinks it can make up for sucking by playing REALLY loud.
[09:16] <bmo_> rofl
[09:16] <dude_> AWOSDev: can i use my webcam in kopete?
[09:16] <rawrness> Fun
[09:16] <AWOSDev> lol
[09:16] <maryen> no you may not
[09:16] <AWOSDev> dude_ No clue
[09:16] <dude_> hi maryen
[09:16] <AWOSDev> that LOL was for morghanphoenix
[09:17] <morghanphoenix> I'm so happy my scroll wheel works again
[09:17] <rawrness> whats realy the point of a webcam
[09:17] <morghanphoenix> Didn't work in slackware, even after I edited all my config files
[09:18] <rawrness> wow i can see a laggy vid some moron  over there
[09:18] <dude_> AWOSDev: remote desktop connection is the last thing i need to complete the transition and it won't work
[09:18] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, you're kidding!  That's very odd, it's all Linux 2.6 right?  I mean there shouldn't be a difference...oh what am I saying Ubuntu is totally different from SuSE which is totally different from Red Hat.
[09:18] <dude_> how sad
[09:18] <morghanphoenix> 2.4
[09:18] <AWOSDev> dude_ hold on another sec
[09:19] <morghanphoenix> what's the kernel report command?
[09:19] <Brydenn33> hmm
[09:20] <Brydenn33> running into a problem again
[09:20] <Brydenn33> /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `zsnes': No such file or directory
[09:20] <Brydenn33> make: *** [install]  Error 1
[09:20] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, uname -a maybe?
[09:20] <dude_> aside from kopete ang gaim, any other suggetions?
[09:20] <maryen> Brydenn33: why not use sudo apt-get install zsnes
[09:20] <bmo> AWOSDev: for years and years, SuSE has always had specially tweaked kernels.  This has gone on at least since the SuSE 6.0 days.  Yes, SuSE is different than all the other linuxes especially at the kernel level
[09:20] <morghanphoenix> 2.6.15-23
[09:21] <Brydenn33> didnt know it was in the repository
[09:21] <maryen> its more fun
[09:21] <Brydenn33> dude_:  what are you trying to do?
[09:21] <morghanphoenix> I like the fact that slackware was i686 though.
[09:21] <maryen> yep it is
[09:21] <Brydenn33> thanks maryen
[09:21] <bmo> <---used to be a SuSE fan until Breezy
[09:21] <AWOSDev> dude_ Konversation
[09:21] <ablaha> How do i unninstall gnome and xfce in ubuntu? i have kde rinning now
[09:21] <dude_> brydenn33: configuring krdc
[09:21] <maryen> i used to be a suse fan until suse 10.1
[09:21] <Brydenn33> is he just trying to transfer a file
[09:21] <bmo> apt-get install xfce-desktop
[09:21] <vursitis> hello
[09:22] <rawrness> greetings
[09:22] <ablaha> bmo: i want to unninstall
[09:22] <AWOSDev> I used SuSE 9.2 until I got my Ubuntu discs, now me likey :)
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Ooh, thanks for reminding me, need to put fluxbox back on my system
[09:22] <bmo> apt-get remove, then
[09:22] <ablaha> bmo: i have try, sudo?
[09:23] <bmo> I would use Synaptic or Adept to track down all the bits of xfce  using the search functions
[09:23] <dude_> konversation can connect to yahoo?
[09:23] <ablaha> root terminal?
[09:23] <AWOSDev> dude_ no sorry IRC onlyu
[09:23] <AWOSDev> *only
[09:23] <vursitis> what exactly are the advantages of fluxbox in your opinion morghanphoenix? i have been using xubuntu on my laptop, and havent had a chance to try out fluxbox nor have i met anyone who used it
[09:23] <maryen> it has a cool name
[09:23] <vursitis> im sorry, *have been using XFCE*
[09:24] <dude_> brydenn33: remote desktop
[09:24] <Brydenn33> i see
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> It's really fast and uncluttered, only does what you tell it to without all the automated crap, I use it when I'm doing things that bogs kde down and it runs them fast.
[09:24] <dude_> AWOSDev: limewire for kubuntu?
[09:24] <Brydenn33> so maryen why do you like snes9x over zsnes?
[09:24] <AWOSDev> dude_ what's Limewire?
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> Aside from that I'm not really sure, I just like the speed
[09:24] <maryen> i don't
[09:24] <Brydenn33> lol Limewire is like emule
[09:24] <bmo> it's a gnutella client, AWO
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> frostwire in linux
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> much better
[09:24] <maryen> frostwire is better
[09:24] <Brydenn33> yah
[09:24] <bmo> java based
[09:25] <vursitis> hm... i would have to get used to a new interface, but i might try it out, this laptop isn't quite outdated, but its getting to the point where, i know in about a year it will be useless
[09:25] <maryen> i use apollon tho
[09:25] <Brydenn33> i like DC++ best :)
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> azureus always gave me problems but frostwire ran great
[09:25] <AWOSDev> !info limewire
[09:25] <ubotu> Package limewire does not exist in any distro I know
[09:25] <Brydenn33> Azureus ownz
[09:25] <AWOSDev> !info gnutella
[09:25] <ubotu> Package gnutella does not exist in any distro I know
[09:25] <AWOSDev> !info emule
[09:25] <maryen> !info giFT
[09:25] <ubotu> Package emule does not exist in any distro I know
[09:25] <morghanphoenix> bittorrent
[09:25] <ubotu> gift: metapackage for the giFT filesharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB
[09:25] <Brydenn33> frostwire is good
[09:25] <bmo> http://www.limewire.com/english/content/home.shtml
[09:25] <Brydenn33> limewire = gay
[09:25] <Brydenn33> lol
[09:25] <Brydenn33> i hate that program now
[09:26] <maryen> gift basically uses the limewire network + the openft network
[09:26] <maryen> plus its not java based
[09:26] <AWOSDev> Sorry I don't do filesharing
[09:26] <maryen> c'mon AWOSDev, everyones doing it
[09:26] <morghanphoenix> I couldn't get bittorrent to work right in slackware, too many dependancies that I couldn't find.
[09:27] <vursitis> ew java...
[09:27] <maryen> don't ya wanna be one of the cool kids
[09:27] <morghanphoenix> I'm installing java right now
[09:27] <bmo> use ktorrent, morghan
[09:27] <Brydenn33> lol yah, everyone's doing it AWOSDev
[09:27] <maryen> ktorrent is good
[09:27] <dude_>  can't find frostwire
[09:27] <bmo> gooooogle
[09:27] <AWOSDev> I did use Ktorrent
[09:27] <Brydenn33> never used ktorrent. i just stick with azureus
[09:27] <maryen> its not in the repos
[09:28] <dude_> oh
[09:28] <dude_> ok
[09:28] <bmo> http://www.frostwire.com/
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> sudo apt-get install libqt-perl
[09:28] <osiris> anyone know of a good subnet calculator
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> lol
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> wrong window
[09:28] <morghanphoenix> konversation is right next to my terminal
[09:28] <AWOSDev> fdoving, who are you blocking?
[09:28] <maryen> fdoving is being nice
[09:29] <AWOSDev> I don't really view blocking cpe.net.cable.rogers.com as being nice
[09:29] <maryen> its like hes being controlled by the spirit of jesus
[09:29] <fdoving> AWOSDev: i'm just cleaning the banlist somewhat.
[09:29] <bmo> http://www.subnet-calculator.com/
[09:29] <AWOSDev> unless they are a spam bot
[09:29] <maryen> or ubunut
[09:29] <maryen> ubuntu*
[09:29] <AWOSDev> Oooooooooooooooooh
[09:29] <AWOSDev> ubunut ROFL
[09:29] <maryen> he lifted the ban
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> what's the deal with all the spam lately
[09:29] <dude_> remote desktop program
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> My spam load has quadrupled in the last week
[09:29] <dude_> any other suggestions?
[09:29] <AWOSDev> Thought you were banning, if you are unbanning then that's fine
[09:30] <fdoving> dude_: i recommend freenx.
[09:30] <AWOSDev> dude_ tsclient?
[09:30] <fdoving> !nx > dude_
[09:30] <bmo> morghan: use graylisting.  kills spambots dead
[09:30] <morghanphoenix> how do I do that?
[09:31] <chimaera_> good morning
[09:31] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install graylisting?  IDK...
[09:31] <chimaera_> since upgrading to 3.5.5 i cannot log out. the logout-entry in kmenu simply does nothing (neither does a DCOP call). if i start a 2nd session, it works. any ideas?
[09:31] <maryen> !ubuntu christ edition > fdoving
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu christ edition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <AWOSDev> Oh the Christian edition, I heard of that
[09:31] <maryen> !ubuntu CE > fdoving
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu CE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <AWOSDev> on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:31] <AWOSDev> !Christian
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Christian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <AWOSDev> !the Lord
[09:31] <fdoving> maryen: go to #kubuntu-offtopic for playing around.
[09:31] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (dapper), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[09:31] <dude_> i do i download frostwire?
[09:31] <maryen> :(
[09:31] <maryen> ill be good
[09:32] <AWOSDev> actually I prefer to just /msg Ubotu in those situations :)
[09:32] <bmo> http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/  my mail host uses it, and it cut the spamload from (on my account alone) from several hundred a day to about 5
[09:33] <maryen> i use bogofilter
[09:33] <bmo> because spambots don't handle error messages
[09:33] <bmo> they just go on to the next address
[09:33] <bmo> real servers, though, DO.
[09:33] <maryen> it just sends everything to the trash ; ;
[09:33] <fdoving> i use mailscanner, and it's really nice.
[09:34] <bmo> graylisting handles the spam right at the smtp port, before it even hits the file system
[09:35] <dude_> i do i download frostwire?
[09:35] <AWOSDev> I like filters, I don't trust any lists
[09:35] <AWOSDev> too risky when you're running a business
[09:35] <maryen> mailscanner is really complex
[09:35] <maryen> much more so than compiling your own kernel
[09:35] <Vursitis-X> lol
[09:35] <AWOSDev> I had a server filter running, and it grabbed a PayPal payment
[09:35] <AWOSDev> because her email was sexy@somewhere
[09:36] <AWOSDev> It saw 'sex' and boom
[09:36] <maryen> and rightly so, sex is bad
[09:36] <bmo> graylisting would have let that through, AWOSDev
[09:36] <fdoving> you get paypal payments from sexy girls. lucky bastard :)O
[09:36] <bmo> it's not a filter
[09:36] <bmo> hah
[09:36] <AWOSDev> She was in the UK somewhere
[09:36] <maryen> i just wish bogofilter would not think emails from my english teacher are evil spam
[09:37] <AWOSDev> I remember I went into PayPal and saw an order I didn't recognize
[09:37] <AWOSDev> Your English teacher is evil?
[09:37] <dude_> is frenx one of the repos?
[09:38] <morghanphoenix> wierd, konversation froze and just went superluminal to catch up
[09:38] <fdoving> dude_: it's in the seveas repositories.
[09:38] <fdoving> !freenx
[09:38] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:38] <bmo> I kid you not.  I got a spam today pumping the stock "arss"
[09:38] <fdoving> dude_: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:38] <AWOSDev> LOL
[09:38] <bmo> "I can't be arsed to buy arss"
[09:39] <AWOSDev> LOLx2
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> I keep getting spams trying to sell me fake rolex watches.
[09:39] <AWOSDev> Yeah me too
[09:39] <AWOSDev> I could just get a knockoff watch on eBay if I wanted one :P
[09:39] <bmo> "we have the real fake rolex watches!"
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> pretty much
[09:39] <fdoving> would be nice to have you guys in #kubuntu-offtopic would give the channel more life :)
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> how do they get my name?
[09:39] <AWOSDev> More life?
[09:39] <AWOSDev> Heck we *are* the life.
[09:39] <morghanphoenix> I don't put in my address anywhere that doesn't mask it.
[09:39] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:40] <maryen> but we can joke and solve peoples problems at the same time
[09:40] <maryen> just like if seinfeld was a superhero
[09:40] <fdoving> AWOSDev: it's just a nice way of saying 'this is not support related, go to #kubuntu-offtopic -now- :)
[09:40] <morghanphoenix> Amarok, update library, maybe sometime tomorrow I can actually listen to my music.
[09:40] <bmo> nono, you got that wrong...it's "joke and _pretend_ to solve peoples' problems"
[09:40] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:41] <AWOSDev> _pretend_?  Hey I fixed dude_'s MP3 problem
[09:41] <maryen> and i fixed ny0n's wireless problems
[09:41] <bmo> it was a joke, AWOSDev
[09:41] <bmo> laugh, it's good for you
[09:41] <bmo> :-P
[09:41] <maryen> all without him having a network connection
[09:41] <AWOSDev> I already did when you got the arss email :P
[09:41] <rawrness> its funny how you can spend hours looking for something your only going to see once every few days for about 10 sec....
[09:41] <maryen> laughing causes face cancer early on ; ;
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> it'd be nice if people used kot for more than flame wars.
[09:42] <fdoving> making progress.. next step is having all the offtopic chatting in #kubuntu-offtopic, while still helping people solve their problems in here.
[09:42] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> last time I saw people talk in off topic was when homer and I think it was blacken went at it
[09:42] <AWOSDev> Well anybody gonna go to offtopic?
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> allready there
[09:43] <morghanphoenix> always there, it's an auto-join
[09:43] <dude_> hehehe: i can't install freenx
[09:43] <dude_> slow
[09:43] <bmo> well, I am, now.  and I am all alone
[09:44] <bmo> oh, and I have op!
[09:45] <morghanphoenix> got awful quiet in here when off-topic picked up.
[09:45] <bmo> * bmo cries
[09:45] <bmo> [03:44]  * bmo is all alone
[09:45] <bmo> [03:44]  *** You set a ban on bmo!*@*.
[09:45] <bmo> [03:44]  *** You remove the ban on bmo!*@*
[09:45] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[09:45] <dude_> AWOSDev: can u help me istall freenx?
[09:45] <fdoving> dude_: what's the problem?
[09:46] <dude_> fdoving: i can't install freenx, im not familiar installing ubuntu application
[09:47] <Brydenn33> any of you guys screw around with xgl + compiz?
[09:47] <fdoving> !xgl
[09:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:47] <Brydenn33> fdoving: i see that
[09:48] <Brydenn33> was curious if anyone has ever played with it
[09:48] <bmo> dude: what is the problem, not being able to install the .deb?
[09:48] <fdoving> dude_: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[09:49] <sks> ciao a tutti...
[09:49] <fdoving> !it
[09:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese.  Ho installato firefox e da shell lo posso lanciare, ma non mi appare nei menu di avvio.. lo devo configurare a mano o c' qualche tool? Grazie anticipate..
[09:50] <fdoving> !it
[09:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:51] <AWOSDev> sks
[09:51] <AWOSDev> sks sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:51] <fdoving> sks: did you install firefox and it doesn't appear in the menu?
[09:52] <sks> yes.. i can configure it manually, but i'd like to know if there is a tool that do this...
[09:52] <fdoving> sks: you can edit the menu with rightclicking on the kmenu icon -> menu editor
[09:53] <AWOSDev> kbuildsycoca
[09:53] <AWOSDev> sk: kbuildsycoca in the menu
[09:53] <AWOSDev> ***not the menu, in the Konsole sorry
[09:54] <sks> ok.. i understand... thanks...:)
[09:54] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:55] <rawrness> i think i just did something bad........
[09:55] <AWOSDev> rawrness uh-oh what
[09:55] <rawrness> used karama put out a app and now my kmenu bar don't show
[09:55] <bmo> it can't be as bad as rm -rf /
[09:56] <bmo> btw, don't do that
[09:56] <fdoving> rawrness: alt+f2 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[09:56] <AWOSDev> bmo LOL
[09:56] <rawrness> oh thanks
[09:57] <rawrness> the applet must not like the kicker hiding......
[10:00] <bmo> you know
[10:00] <bmo> this is odd
[10:00] <AWOSDev> What?
[10:00] <bmo> I killed kicker just for giggles and i can't get it to restart
[10:00] <AWOSDev> oops
[10:01] <bmo> complains about not being able to connect to the X server
[10:01] <AWOSDev> How did you start X?
[10:01] <bmo> from boot
[10:01] <bmo> 19 days ago
[10:01] <bmo> heh
[10:02] <AWOSDev> same UID as you are trying to start it now?
[10:02] <bmo> yeah
[10:02] <AWOSDev> Hmm no clue
[10:02] <bmo> so, I will brb
[10:02] <AWOSDev> sounds like the *RESET* button is in order :P
[10:02] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:02] <bmo> restarting the desktop
[10:02] <AWOSDev> Okay
[10:04] <bmo> rehi
[10:04] <AWOSDev> Hi!
[10:04] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:06] <bmo> it's scanning for proxies
[10:07] <AWOSDev> Ew your getting attacked?
[10:07] <bmo> jeez, it was a bot.  4 ports, scanned multiple times...if it ain't open the first try, don't try again, dumbass.  write a better bot
[10:07] <AWOSDev> !bot
[10:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:08] <AWOSDev> Ooops sorry wrong channel
[10:08] <dude_> AWOSDev: : (
[10:08] <dude_> i can't
[10:08] <AWOSDev> dude_ what
[10:09] <bmo> !bot will darl mcbride go to jail?
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot will darl mcbride go to jail? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <bmo> well, it's not all knowing, is it?
[10:09] <AWOSDev> !bot
[10:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:10] <AWOSDev> Well he claims to be :P
[10:10] <dude_> i can't install frenx
[10:11] <bmo> what is the output of dpkg, dude_?
[10:14] <bmo> freenx depends on nxagent and expect
[10:14] <dude_> port
[10:15] <dude_> issue
[10:16] <octan> any norwegian in here that uses mythtv ?
[10:16] <chimaera_> re.
[10:17] <ilgattotrino> hi there
[10:17] <chimaera_> can someone give me a quick hint how to change the fstab? ince when are UUIDs used and where to get them? besides that, i changed one device from XFS to ext3 but linux still tries to mount it using XFS..
[10:17] <bmo> edit using your fave editor?
[10:17] <bmo> sudo pico /etc/fstab
[10:18] <chimaera_> i know how to edit.. but now how.. got me? ;)
[10:18] <chimaera_> pls read teh question again.
[10:18] <AWOSDev> man fstab
[10:18] <AWOSDev> in the Konsole
[10:18] <dude_> bmo: what is the first step?
[10:19] <bmo> haha
[10:19] <ilgattotrino> chimaera_: if there's no option for the XFS file system you can simply change XFS to ext3 i think..
[10:19] <fdoving> bmo: add the repository and use apt-get.
[10:19] <chimaera_> oh boy. man fstab still doesn't explain the system kubuntu uses now (see UUID). o kinow how to do it the old way, but wondering what has changed..
[10:19] <chimaera_> no, just changing XFS to ext3 within fstab doesn't work
[10:20] <ilgattotrino> wow
[10:20] <dude_> bmo: what is the first step?
[10:20] <bmo> first step of what?
[10:21] <dude_> installing freenx
[10:21] <fdoving> chimaera_: what's the problem?
[10:22] <ilgattotrino> can someone tell me if a radeon mobility x1400 (dell inspiron) can work? i'v tried all the howtos but still nothing...
[10:25] <bmo> dude_ I am trying to install it myself to see how to get it installed correctly on my system, but even adding the repository means that it is choking on the amd64 (my arch) packages.gz file
[10:28] <bmo> I am obviously doing something wrong
[10:28] <livingdaylight> I feel VERY Edgy about the name of the impending latest release of (k)Ubuntu
[10:29] <AWOSDev> why?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> is it an auspicious name?
[10:29] <livingdaylight> i mean Edgy? sounds dangerous
[10:30] <livingdaylight> doesn't give me the feeling - Rock Solid
[10:30] <AWOSDev> Egdy Eft...it sounds almost as weird as Hoary Hedgehog.
[10:30] <livingdaylight> at least a hedgehog is harmless and we know what it is
[10:30] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[10:30] <dude_> bmo: what does it mean?
[10:30] <bmo> ok, I am not doing anything wrong.  it's just not there for my architecture
[10:31] <livingdaylight> Edgy Eft? what the 'iffin is it? or does it mean?!
[10:31] <livingdaylight> whoever is coming up with these names should either start smoking less  of it or more of it... i don't know which
[10:31] <AWOSDev> Hehehehehe
[10:31] <AWOSDev> ROFL
[10:32] <livingdaylight> :)
[10:32] <livingdaylight> how was nascar racing?
[10:32] <livingdaylight> we don't have that here in Europe
[10:33] <AWOSDev> Crazy
[10:33] <AWOSDev> very crazy
[10:33] <AWOSDev> I think only like 20 of 43 cars even made it through the night
[10:33] <livingdaylight> LOL
[10:33] <AWOSDev> But my favourite driver is still leading the Championship points
[10:33] <livingdaylight> UBuntu?
[10:34] <livingdaylight> teh..
[10:34] <livingdaylight> is that where they just drive around in a circle?
[10:34] <AWOSDev> YES...
[10:34] <livingdaylight> ^^
[10:34] <AWOSDev> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR
[10:34] <AWOSDev> also see
[10:35] <AWOSDev> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Burton and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Harvick
[10:35] <AWOSDev> for my two drivers, 1st and 4th in points
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[10:36] <AWOSDev> Hello MilhousePunkRock
[10:36] <bmo> errh, ok, now that I have a working repository, how do I get its public key?
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Though I upgraded to the Edgy beta... :-(
[10:36] <AWOSDev> bmo just screw the PGP key and use it
[10:36] <bmo> oh, ok
[10:37] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[10:37] <AWOSDev> if you *need* the PHP key it's on the Wiki
[10:37] <AWOSDev> *PGP
[10:37] <AWOSDev> !sources
[10:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> The problem was supposed to be fixed at the new kernel stage, somewhat related to my video chip...
[10:37] <AWOSDev> or maybe !source-o-matic
[10:38] <bmo> http://www.urbanpuddle.com/articles/2006/06/21/install-freenx-on-ubuntu-dapper-drake does NOT work!
[10:38] <AWOSDev> On AMD64 no
[10:38] <AWOSDev> try it on a 32bit :)
[10:39] <AWOSDev> * bmo needs to go on eBay and get one :)
[10:40] <bmo> ha ha
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning TheGateKeeper
[10:41] <bmo> help help I'm being repressed!
[10:41] <TheGateKeeper> good morning MilhousePunkRock how are you doing?
[10:42] <rawrness>    XD
[10:42] <bmo> or should I just go back to ubuntu 32 bit on amd64?
[10:42] <bmo> meh
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Fine, actually... That will change though, since I am looking into the powermanagement again...
[10:45] <dna_> Hello, I cant get my prism2.5 card working in latest edgy :( I think it worked in knot1 but when I upgraded the card changed name from eth1 to wlan0 (driver change?) and since that I cant get it working. I can scan for networks using various tools but not authenticate with a ap since iwconfig wlan0 essid something gives "set failed on device wlan0;  operation not supported" :(
[10:46] <dna_> sudo iwconfig ofcourse
[10:46] <dude> question: what is JRE
[10:46] <chimaera_> java runtime environment
[10:46] <dude> frostwire can't run beacuse of the jre
[10:46] <gzevspero> Hi, I'm trying to browse my gmail account using konversation but the page won't load properly - my contact list doesn't appear, and certain buttons also aren't displayed correctly. Any suggestions on how I could fix this?
[10:47] <dude> i downloaded the jre installer
[10:47] <dude> i can't install JRE
[10:47] <gzevspero> no - trying to browse gmail using konqueror, sorry
[10:47] <bmo> oh
[10:47] <bmo> hah
[10:48] <rawrness> @lert dude
[10:48] <rawrness> nope
[10:48] <dude> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[10:48] <dude> how do i install that one
[10:49] <rawrness> @lart rawrness
[10:50] <dna_> Is there a better channel for asking wireless questions in kubuntu?
[10:51] <rawrness> any idea how to make this work http://www.bootsplash.org/index.php/Welcome_to_the_graphical_world_of_Linux
[10:52] <AWOSDev> gzevspero try going
[10:52] <AWOSDev> Setting->Configure Konqueror...
[10:52] <bmo> gzevspero, try changing your browser ID to mozilla
[10:52] <AWOSDev> go under Browser ID
[10:53] <bmo> I did it and it stopped complaining
[10:53] <AWOSDev> change to Mozilla 1.7.1 on Windows XP for domain: mail.google.com
[10:53] <AWOSDev> works every time :)
[10:53] <bmo> AWOSDev: even quicker, it's under TOOLS in the menu bar
[10:53] <AWOSDev> bmo, my Tools menu doesn't work anymore for some reason :(
[10:53] <bmo> TOOLS "change browser ID"
[10:54] <bmo> odd, AWOSDev
[10:54] <bmo> since I use Pop3 on gmail, it took 3 tries to get the right password
[10:54] <bmo> cuz if you use pop3, you never ever have to type it again
[10:54] <bmo> heh
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> dude:  that's what you want to do ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[10:56] <hunger_> Any idea how I can stop kde-guidance-powermanager from offering the hibernate option?
[10:56] <TheGateKeeper> dude: to install rpm's use alien, but be warned they may well NOT work
[10:56] <gzevspero> bmo, awosdev: that works, thanks :)
[10:57] <AWOSDev> gzevspero, np
[10:57] <AWOSDev> :)
[10:57] <bmo> if you use alien on rpms, the packages may go in "surprising" directions
[10:57] <dude> :(
[10:57] <bmo> but it's worth trying
[10:58] <bmo> you can always dpkg -e the aliened package
[10:58] <haffe> Hello.
[10:58] <gzevspero> also, how do I access synaptic to install the gnome environment from kubuntu? I can't find it, is it called something else in kde?
[10:58] <haffe> I am thinking about upgrading a dapper machin to edgy. How stable is edgy now-a-days?
[10:58] <haffe> gzevspero: It's called adept.
[10:59] <bmo> gzevspero: I think that the gnome environment is under the meta-package of gnome-desktop but I am not sure
[10:59] <AWOSDev> ubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <bmo> haffe: adept and synaptic do the same things
[10:59] <haffe> Yes?
[10:59] <AWOSDev> Yeah but /me likes Synaptic better
[10:59] <haffe> Wasn't that the question?
[11:00] <gzevspero> I found add/remove programs, is that the same as adept? From what I remember in ubuntu you had add/remove programs but then if you chose synaptic you had a lot more installation options from there
[11:00] <AWOSDev> Yes
[11:01] <bmo> yes
[11:01] <bmo> kdesu synaptic
[11:01] <dude> waaahhh...i quit
[11:01] <bmo> if it ain't there, kdesu apt-get install synaptic
[11:01] <bmo> heh
[11:02] <bmo> dude: I quit too.  us amd64 people are discriminated against
[11:02] <AWOSDev> AHHHH kdesu
[11:02] <AWOSDev> darn someone in #Ubuntu needed that and I thought it was ksudo
[11:02] <dude> pls help me to install jre
[11:03] <AWOSDev> !jre
[11:03] <dude> and i really ned to use remote desktop but i cant get it working....
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <bmo> http://java.com:80/en/download/manual.jsp
[11:03] <AWOSDev> !java
[11:03] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:03] <xavier> hi
[11:03] <AWOSDev> dude look there
[11:03] <bmo> make sure you get the 32 bit java, even on amd64 to get the right jre
[11:04] <dude> ya there is an instruction but, i cant follow it
[11:04] <dude> :)
[11:04] <bmo> why sun does that, I do not know
[11:04] <xavier> i installed guard dog .. now i cannot access the web... i have added a tick for HTTP and HTTPS anf FTP and IRC .. so far only IRC is working. any help?
[11:04] <dude> waaahhh, pls help me
[11:04] <AWOSDev> xavier, thank goodness that IRC is working :)
[11:04] <xavier> i am using pppoe
[11:04] <gzevspero> So I typed the kdesu apt-get install synaptic but it doesn't show anything... does this type of installation just run in the background? How do I know when it's done? Also, I searched for gnome from adept but all it came up with was gnome translator... how do find and install gnome desktop?
[11:05] <AWOSDev> !tell dude about java
[11:05] <xavier> haha .. i cannot access google nothing
[11:05] <bmo> gzevspero now type kdesu synaptic
[11:05] <xavier> using konqueror web browser
[11:05] <bmo> it should come up
[11:05] <gzevspero> command synaptic could not be found
[11:05] <AWOSDev> gzevspero --------- ubuntu-desktop is what it's called
[11:06] <bmo> the apt-get should have happened in the background
[11:06] <xavier> can someone help me open the HTTP port? am using Guard Dog
[11:07] <bmo> open a console and type sudo apt-get install synaptic, gzefs
[11:07] <bmo> er
[11:07] <bmo> gzevs
[11:07] <bmo> then type sudo (in the same term) synaptic
[11:08] <bmo> then search for ubuntu-desktop like awos said
[11:09] <bmo> xavier, we are not ignoring you, just that I don't have a clue about guarddog
[11:09] <xavier> ok.. do u know which lines to edit in my iptables?
[11:10] <bmo> guarddog should handle it, xavier
[11:10] <dude> i quit i quit i quit i quit
[11:10] <gzevspero> ? I do searches in adept for ubuntu, desktop, and ubuntu-desktop, but it doesn't come up... I type the synaptic installation command and then sudo synaptic, but it doesn't even ask me for a password
[11:10] <xavier> how come i have ticked all http and irc ports .. and only irc works
[11:10] <AWOSDev> dude, don't give up
[11:10] <bmo> http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/using-guarddog.html#id2406177
[11:10] <dude> AWOSDev: first time in linux
[11:10] <dude> :(
[11:11] <AWOSDev> dude, right, don't give up
[11:11] <dude> i don't know what to do
[11:11] <xavier> is it safe to just disable firewall? am not running any servers .. just the default kubuntu install
[11:11] <AWOSDev> dude, if you give up, you will never use Linux again.
[11:11] <bmo> because if you have recently typed in a password for sudo, you don't get asked again, gzevspero
[11:11] <AWOSDev> dude, I personally say screw the Remote Desktop
[11:11] <xavier> AWOSDev: i have such moments a lot .. experiencing one now lol
[11:11] <xavier> no internet for me .. boo hoo
[11:12] <gzevspero> ah... still it doesn't come up with synaptic though, no message given
[11:12] <xavier> this is my 3rd day using linux EVER!
[11:12] <AWOSDev> xavier, by default, Kubuntu comes with zero ports open, so yes, disable all firewalls and blow raspberry at all the Windows lusers.
[11:12] <dude> AWOSDev: 2 last things i need: frostwire or any other peer to peer program and remote desktop program
[11:12] <xavier> i am more concerned about LAN hacking .. i mean i am on a WAN setup by my isp and using pppoe to connect
[11:13] <AWOSDev> dude, again, try Ktorrent
[11:13] <xavier> just did not want any of my folders visible on the LAN
[11:13] <bmo> xavier, I am using firestarter for the firewall.  try that
[11:13] <bmo> oh wait
[11:14] <bmo> uh what zone are you working in, in guarddog, xavier?
[11:14] <xavier> the problem is .. even if i uninstall guarddog it runs some scripts at startup .. so even after removing guard dog i cannot access the WWW
[11:14] <xavier> it shows me two zones local and internet
[11:14] <bmo> configure for the internet
[11:15] <xavier> i have  enabled http on both
[11:15] <bmo> k
[11:15] <xavier> i use PPPOE .. do i have to do anything special?
[11:15] <bmo> no
[11:15] <xavier> its amazing IRC works !! lol
[11:15] <bmo> but I am curious about the scripts that you talk about
[11:15] <bmo> what script?
[11:16] <xavier> when i boot kubuntu ... i get a line saying .. configuring guard dog something
[11:16] <raul12> hi can any 1 siggest good fire wall 4 my kubuntu ???
[11:16] <raul12> suggest
[11:16] <AWOSDev> !firewall
[11:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[11:16] <AWOSDev> !info firestarter
[11:16] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[11:16] <xavier> lol raul .. been there done that .. would not recommend :)
[11:16] <raul12> so whats ur recomendation
[11:17] <raul12> ?
[11:17] <raul12> ^_^]
[11:17] <xavier> ask the experts .. kubuntu is secure by default
[11:17] <raul12> nope not that secure as u think it might be
[11:17] <xavier> but i want to run some services in the future .. so installed guarddog .. am repenting lol
[11:17] <dude> what is Ktorrent?
[11:17] <AWOSDev> !info ktorrent
[11:17] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[11:17] <rosen37> Hello
[11:18] <AWOSDev> Hello rosen37.
[11:18] <rosen37> PLease how to remove the name of the last user logged in the kdm?
[11:18] <xavier> AWOSDev: how do i access my windows network without serving any of my folders?
[11:18] <AWOSDev> xavier, samba.
[11:18] <xavier> i mean client only
[11:18] <AWOSDev> !samba
[11:18] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:18] <raul12> ok
[11:18] <xavier> not file server
[11:18] <AWOSDev> smbclient.
[11:18] <AWOSDev> part of samba.
[11:18] <AWOSDev> Just don't share anything.
[11:19] <xavier> okay .. is it secure? i mean
[11:19] <raul12> well have sometimes finding hard to complie
[11:19] <xavier> can someone hack thru lan into my system?
[11:19] <raul12> software from source
[11:19] <raul12> i386
[11:19] <AWOSDev> xavier, through LAN?
[11:19] <AWOSDev> What seedy people are on your LAN?
[11:19] <raul12> software on x34 machines
[11:19] <bmo> xavier: it's really difficult to "hack through the lan" to your computer if you don't offer any services
[11:19] <AWOSDev> x34?
[11:19] <xavier> yeah .. like in windows i have heard of netbios hacking
[11:19] <AWOSDev> I think you mean x86?
[11:19] <raul12> x64
[11:19] <raul12> lol
[11:19] <AWOSDev> oh
[11:19] <AWOSDev> LOL
[11:19] <bmo> xavier: don't worry about it
[11:20] <bmo> seriously
[11:20] <xavier> so installing samba wont hurt me right?
[11:20] <AWOSDev> xavier, Yes!
[11:20] <AWOSDev> It won't hurt at all!
[11:20] <xavier> now about my google!! help someone
[11:21] <raul12> well physically might not hurt u
[11:21] <xavier> i cannot even ping google from konsole
[11:21] <raul12> ^_^
[11:21] <xavier> hehe
[11:21] <bmo> xavier: the first step to security is to see if you have cooties:  bash$ sudo nmap -vv localhost -P0 -O
[11:21] <dude> what are the functions of Ktorrent?
[11:21] <raul12> but mentally it will
[11:21] <xavier> okay running that
[11:21] <xavier> !cooties
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cooties - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <raul12> well will any out torrent u used on win
[11:21] <raul12> machine
[11:21] <raul12> @dude
[11:22] <dude> what is the main use of Ktorrent
[11:22] <bmo> to share files, dude
[11:22] <xavier> nmap: command not found
[11:22] <bmo> and to get really large files, like linux distros
[11:22] <dude> is it like limewire?
[11:22] <bmo> it's like limewire but higher performance
[11:22] <raul12> no its like bit torrent
[11:22] <bmo> gnutella is slower
[11:23] <raul12> in windows
[11:23] <dude> higher performance than limewire and gnutella?
[11:23] <raul12> but guntella is goood
[11:23] <xavier> bmo: nmap: command not found
[11:23] <bmo> apt-get install nmap
[11:23] <raul12> well torrne r different
[11:23] <raul12> torrent
[11:23] <bmo> the homepage for nmap is www.insecure.org
[11:24] <dude> any other remote desktop program available?
[11:24] <AWOSDev> insecure.org?  really?  what a domain name... :)
[11:24] <raul12> @bmo better install it though adept
[11:24] <raul12> nmap
[11:24] <rawrness> torrent speeds are fickel
[11:24] <xavier> bmo: lol dude .. i cannot access the WWW !! help me
[11:24] <raul12> then kmap
[11:24] <bmo> stop the firewall
[11:24] <raul12> what happen
[11:24] <rawrness> depends on how many people are seeding a file  and how many are leching
[11:24] <xavier> bmo E: Invalid operation nmap
[11:24] <raul12> @xavier
[11:24] <bmo> apt-get install nmap, not apt-get nmap
[11:25] <xavier> oops
[11:25] <bmo> xavier, stop the firewall.  sudo killall -9 guarddog
[11:25] <xavier> yay .. firewall stopped .. google.com here i come lol
[11:25] <dude> any other remote desktop program available?
[11:26] <bmo> SIGKILL, if used, goes last because the grim reaper bears no doubt,
[11:26] <bmo> cares not if you have prepared your way, and leaves crushed Zagnut
[11:26] <bmo> nodules in the carpet...
[11:27] <xavier> hey i ran nmap
[11:27] <bmo> and remove guarddog from /etc/init.d
[11:27] <xavier> port 631/tcp open .. what is that?
[11:27] <dude> one last application
[11:27] <bmo> IPP, I think
[11:27] <bmo> printer
[11:27] <xavier> wht for?
[11:27] <xavier> i dont have a prionter
[11:28] <bmo> then remove cups
[11:28] <bmo> if you want
[11:28] <bmo> but nobody hacks printer ports
[11:28] <xavier> but will pdf still work?
[11:28] <bmo> yes
[11:28] <xavier> i mean .. writing a pdf file .. without printer services
[11:28] <AWOSDev> In oowriter?
[11:28] <xavier> how do i close the printer port?
[11:29] <xavier> AWOSDev:  yea
[11:29] <AWOSDev> xavier, I have no printer.  it works :)
[11:29] <xavier> AWOSDev: installing samba now
[11:29] <bmo> you don't need cups for pdfs
[11:29] <xavier> no i mean with printer port or IPP service disabled
[11:30] <bmo> writing a pdf file to disk does not depend on printer ports
[11:30] <AWOSDev> Well g'night all.
[11:30] <bmo> g'night
[11:30] <bmo> er
[11:30] <bmo> g'mornin'
[11:30] <xavier> ok.. how can i close the printer service .. i need to make this as fast as possible .. still keeping kde
[11:30] <bmo> it's 5am
[11:30] <bmo> apt-get remove cups
[11:30] <rosen37> mmh what is the time UTC currntly?
[11:31] <bmo> it's 5am eastern standard time
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Yes it's 5:29am here.
[11:31] <bmo> er
[11:31] <bmo> 5:30
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Daylight time
[11:31] <AWOSDev> not standard time
[11:31] <bmo> yeah, daylight time
[11:31] <xavier> my ram usage is almost 550 MB out of 768 MB .. how do i make my system more lean ?
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Standard is at the end of the month :P
[11:31] <AWOSDev> xavier...heh
[11:31] <bmo> xavier: do not worry about ram usage
[11:31] <bmo> because "free ram is bad ram"
[11:31] <AWOSDev> xavier I frequently go wayyyyyyy > my RAM it's all good it's fine it'll still run fast
[11:31] <rosen37> I m asking the GMT time
[11:32] <bmo> GMT is 9:30
[11:32] <bmo> ish
[11:32] <xavier> it starts to get realllll suggish when it goes beyond that .. and my swap is always ZERO
[11:32] <rosen37> on my kubuntu it s 10:30 :'(
[11:32] <xavier> sluggish*
[11:32] <xavier> whoa
[11:33] <bmo> http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/
[11:33] <xavier> SAMBA opened some ports of mine
[11:33] <bmo> yes
[11:33] <bmo> they need to be there for samba
[11:33] <rosen37> bmo: on my debian station it s 9:30 and on the ubuntu it s 10:30?
[11:33] <xavier> PORT    STATE SERVICE
[11:33] <xavier> 139/tcp open  netbios-ssn
[11:33] <xavier> 445/tcp open  microsoft-ds
[11:33] <xavier> 631/tcp open  ipp
[11:33] <xavier> netbios?? the windows evil?
[11:33] <AWOSDev> rosen37 yeah Ubuntu is freaky times
[11:33] <Healot> ?
[11:33] <bmo> rosen: sudo ntpdate tick.usno.navy.mil
[11:34] <bmo> or any other timeserver you want
[11:34] <bmo> xavier, that is correct if you want samba
[11:34] <bmo> it is not a security risk, though
[11:34] <xavier> but the port is open
[11:34] <bmo> yes
[11:34] <dude> tnx 4 the help guys...
[11:34] <xavier> and microsoft-ds?
[11:35] <bmo> yes
[11:35] <AWOSDev> Directory Service
[11:35] <xavier> need more info
[11:35] <rawrness> things  your mother wouln't let you do in your youth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdF6M2FBKG4
[11:35] <bmo> those are the msft ports, you need those for samba
[11:35] <AWOSDev> e.g. the others hackers dream
[11:35] <AWOSDev> but
[11:35] <AWOSDev> don't worry
[11:35] <xavier> how do i disable my samba shares .. cannot c any icon to click
[11:35] <AWOSDev> You won't be hacked because you aren't sharing anything.
[11:35] <rosen37> AWOSDev: ah yeah ok
[11:35] <rosen37> It is synchro now thx
[11:35] <AWOSDev> Huh?
[11:35] <AWOSDev> what is?
[11:35] <AWOSDev> huh?
[11:35] <fdoving> xavier: kmenu -> system settings -> sharing
[11:36] <xavier> oh .. was looking for something like Samba :)
[11:36] <AWOSDev> rosen37, bmo gave you the ntpdate command not me :)
[11:36] <bmo> heh
[11:37] <rosen37> oops sorry
[11:37] <bmo> btw, that was the US Naval Obseratory ntp server
[11:37] <bmo> one of them
[11:37] <bmo> the other is named, obviously, tock
[11:37] <rosen37> bmo: yes but I did it on my internal ntp server
[11:37] <rosen37> I forgot to do that I need to isntall a deamon to synchro with the internal ntp server
[11:37] <AWOSDev> tick and tock hehe
[11:38] <zorglu_> q. i have a large file compressed a .bin / .cue, how can i decompress it ?
[11:39] <bmo> dude: nmap is there for good or evil.  use it mostly to see if you are offering services you didn't mean to install.  you can, though, use it to see if other people have their pants around their ankles, like windows users....
[11:39] <xavier> ok . i am in sharing ... folders /tmp/ is being shared
[11:40] <fdoving> !bin
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <fdoving> !bincue
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bincue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <David_Edmundson> zorglu_: they're CD images aren't they?
[11:40] <fdoving> zorglu_: you can use bchunk
[11:40] <zorglu_> fdoving: ok thanks lookin
[11:40] <xavier> hey local network browsing is disabled
[11:40] <fdoving> zorglu_: you can use bchunk to convert it so a iso. then you can mount it if you want to.
[11:40] <bmo> enable it, xavier
[11:40] <AWOSDev> bmo, please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BEANS :)
[11:41] <AWOSDev> bmo, I don't think anybody thought of using nmap for evil until you said something
[11:41] <bmo> HAHAHAAHA
[11:41] <xavier> i mean .. it says kcmlisa could not be found
[11:41] <David_Edmundson> erm..I think everyone thinks of evil when they see nmap
[11:41] <David_Edmundson> or ettercap
[11:41] <David_Edmundson> or metasploit
[11:41] <bmo> AWOSDev: one day I learned about portscanning, and I promptly MAPPED THE ENTIRE LAN OF IDS.NET
[11:41] <bmo> I got a phone call
[11:42] <fdoving> David_Edmundson: network admins use it to keep their networks secure.
[11:42] <bmo> "Dan, wtf were you doing?"
[11:42] <bmo> HAHAHA
[11:42] <David_Edmundson> fantastic.
[11:42] <fdoving> you have to know the evil ways in order to be able to secure yourself.
[11:42] <AWOSDev> bmo hehe
[11:43] <AWOSDev> it's called ethical hacking or something
[11:43] <AWOSDev> doing it on your own computer
[11:43] <David_Edmundson> or white hacking
[11:43] <AWOSDev> hehe
[11:43] <AWOSDev> anyway
[11:43] <David_Edmundson> there's lots of money in it apparently
[11:43] <bmo> I had a shell account on ids.net, which was connected to their lan, so obviously I ran nmap on the entire lan
[11:44] <David_Edmundson> 8-)
[11:44] <AWOSDev> Oh I bet you got kickban'ed from them
[11:44] <AWOSDev> *really fast*!
[11:44] <David_Edmundson> next time run -P0 it's a bit more subtle
[11:44] <fdoving> anyway.. #kubuntu-offtopic *hint*
[11:44] <AWOSDev> 5:43am = wayyyy slepy
[11:44] <AWOSDev> sleepy
[11:44] <AWOSDev> G'night all
[11:44] <fdoving> nite awosdev.
[11:44] <xavier> tx AWOSDev
[11:44] <AWOSDev> I'ma have a surprise for you all
[11:44] <David_Edmundson> night dude
[11:44] <xavier> nite
[11:44] <bmo> night
[11:44] <AWOSDev> xavier np
[11:44] <bmo> and goodmorning
[11:45] <AWOSDev> I'm going to install Kubuntu on my Pentium 100 with 40MB of RAM and see if it'll work
[11:45] <bmo> AHHAHAH
[11:45] <AWOSDev> Good morning to you too bmo.
[11:45] <bmo> server edition
[11:45] <fdoving> you'll need the alternate cd. :)
[11:45] <fdoving> or the server edition :)
[11:45] <AWOSDev> Why do I *always* get heckled from having a Pentium 100?
[11:45] <AWOSDev> I love her.
[11:45] <AWOSDev> Compaq LTE 5150
[11:45] <AWOSDev> passed QA on 11 Oct 1996.
[11:46] <AWOSDev> ha
[11:46] <AWOSDev> oops
[11:46] <AWOSDev> ah
[11:46] <xavier> i screwed up my kde yesterday royally . .after i installed xgl and compiz
[11:46] <bmo> I have some ram sticks for that, awos
[11:46] <bmo> PC100
[11:46] <AWOSDev> bmo, LTE 5150?
[11:46] <AWOSDev> really?/
[11:46] <AWOSDev> TRULY?
[11:46] <bmo> yeah
[11:46] <bmo> heheh
[11:46] <AWOSDev> Send 'em over!
[11:46] <xavier> had to reverse alll my steps taken .. no window titles .. no borders nothing
[11:46] <bmo> I have to get them from a friend, though
[11:46] <AWOSDev> Are you serious?
[11:46] <bmo> probably still wrapped in aluminum foil
[11:47] <AWOSDev> wow
[11:47] <AWOSDev> send 'em to me!
[11:47] <bmo> ok
[11:47] <AWOSDev> Andrew <dot> R <period> Wilcox <at> Gmail <.> com
[11:47] <xavier> one question .. how do i browse the lan computers ?
[11:47] <AWOSDev> xavier, try smbclient
[11:48] <AWOSDev> anyway really g'night
[11:48] <xavier> smbclient usage:
[11:48] <AWOSDev> bmo just pop me an email and I'll send you my address
[11:48] <AWOSDev> Uh, smbclient \\\\computername\\sharename
[11:49] <AWOSDev> xavier
[11:49] <bmo> sented
[11:49] <AWOSDev> xavier also check "man smbclient"
[11:49] <flaccid> smbclient //host/share
[11:49] <AWOSDev> bmo Thank you!!!!!!!!
[11:49] <xavier> AWOSDev: but what if i do not know computername .. i mean just browse like network neighborhood
[11:49] <flaccid> its not windows :)
[11:49] <AWOSDev> xavier, well then you're kinda out of luck
[11:49] <AWOSDev> Goodnight.
[11:49] <mike> is KDE better than gnome?
[11:49] <xavier> ok
[11:49] <AWOSDev> mike, YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:49] <bmo> kde is always better than gnome
[11:49] <mike> oww ^^
[11:50] <AWOSDev> heh
[11:50] <fdoving> !!!!!
[11:50] <bmo> kde ioslaves prove it
[11:50] <fdoving> !!!
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> KDE is _different_ to gnome
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> for some people it is better
[11:50] <xavier> is there another program which let me browse my network .. without knowing hostname?
[11:50] <AWOSDev> GNOME sucks IMHO
[11:50] <mike> ic
[11:50] <AWOSDev> anyway g'night already!
[11:50] <bmo> hahaha
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> browse what on your network?
[11:50] <AWOSDev> stop dragging me back in!
[11:50] <bmo> GO!
[11:50] <xavier> computers with shares
[11:50] <David_Edmundson> samba shares?
[11:50] <xavier> ok bye AWOSDev :)
[11:50] <AWOSDev> David_Edmundson, browse Windows SMB clients
[11:50] <AWOSDev> xavier bye
[11:50] <xavier> yes David_Edmundson
[11:50] <AWOSDev> bmo bye
[11:50] <mike> i use ubuntu but then i uninstall gnome then switch to kde
[11:51] <David_Edmundson> open Konq, goto smb:/
[11:51] <xavier> ok david
[11:51] <xavier> cool
[11:51] <xavier> ty vm David_Edmundson
[11:51] <bmo> you don't have to uninstall gnome to use kde
[11:52] <bmo> you just select kde from the gdm or kdm screen
[11:52] <mike> where can i get repositories for kubuntu?
[11:52] <David_Edmundson> (note you can't have both kdm and gdm..though apt handles that for you)
[11:52] <bmo> they are the same as ubuntu, mike
[11:52] <mike> ohh ic
[11:53] <David_Edmundson> btw, does anyone know how if you can transfer video's to iPod without gtkpod which is terrible to use?
[11:54] <David_Edmundson> the kio-slave doesn't support it yet, so I imagine not.
[11:54] <bmo> put linux on the ipod, dave
[11:54] <bmo> hehehehe
[11:54] <xavier> david .. is there any program which looks for any shared folders in smb:/ computers?
[11:55] <David_Edmundson> smb4k
[11:55] <xavier> David_Edmundson: like lanspider?
[11:55] <David_Edmundson> "apt-cache search samba browse"
[11:55] <xavier> ok
[11:55] <zorglu_> q. it tries to mount a file.iso via the loop device, from the doc i got i need to do a "sudo insmod loop.o" but loop.o is not on my disk. "locate loop.o" provide nothing
[11:55] <zorglu_> any suggestion
[11:55] <David_Edmundson> run "sudo modprobe loop" instead
[11:56] <zorglu_> thanks
[11:56] <David_Edmundson> zorglu_: what they both say is load the "driver"/module which allows me to mount an iso
[11:56] <David_Edmundson> insmod inserts a file as a module, modprobe loads a module from the modules path
[11:59] <aztun> hi Linux_Galore
[11:59] <aztun> u remember I kopete didnt work yesterday???
[11:59] <aztun> or friday...
[12:00] <aztun> I think it was a problem with the package
[12:00] <aztun> because yesterday I updated with a new kopete package
[12:00] <aztun> and now everything works great
[12:00] <bmo> dave_edmunson: have you tried gnupod-tools from the command line?
[12:01] <pexi> aztun: i have problems with msn protocol an kopete, had you the same problems??
[12:01] <zorglu_> pffff it is real hard to get those .bin :)
[12:02] <aztun> no pexi
[12:02] <aztun> when I updated to last kde kopete  crashed
[12:02] <aztun> when I tried to go into kopetes config
[12:03] <aztun> when since I updated yesterday with a new kopetes package everything works great
[12:03] <UDZGuru> hi there
[12:03] <zorglu_> David_Edmundson: ok, my mistake was in the .o instead of .ko
[12:03] <pexi> i have too the last kde, but i use kubuntu edgy
[12:03] <UDZGuru> is there a german kubuntu channel as well?
[12:03] <aztun> I am on dapper
[12:03] <bmo> oh nevermind, it looks like gtkpod is a frontend to gnupod
[12:05] <xavier> hey when i installed samba ... imy computer name on the windows network says "Xavier server Samba, Ubuntu" .. how do i change that?
[12:07] <fdoving> xavier: kmenu -> run command 'kdesu kate /etc/samba/smb.conf' search for 'server string ='
[12:07] <xavier> ty fdoving
[12:09] <xavier> how do i restart samba to c the changes?
[12:09] <fdoving> xavier: save and exit when you have changed it to what you want, you'll need to restart samba (kmenu -> system settings -> Advanced (at the very top) -> System Services)
[12:09] <enbor> Hello
[12:10] <xavier> wow u're fast
[12:10] <xavier> fdoving:  wow u're fast
[12:10] <fdoving> xavier: i know what you have to do, i started typing some time ago :)
[12:10] <sF|Xemanth> xavier: in console /etc/init.d/samba restart or was it smb
[12:10] <xavier> hehe ty
[12:10] <xavier> ty sF|Xemanth
[12:10] <enbor> I have a problem with kubuntu, with my printer and a usb key (both works great in Ubuntu), can anybody help me?
[12:12] <xavier> problem
[12:12] <xavier>  * Starting Samba daemons...                                                    install: cannot change owner and/or group of `/var/run/samba': Operation not permitted
[12:12] <blujay> How can I capture a child process's PID in a Bash script?
[12:13] <Skrot-> xavier: Do it as sudo
[12:14] <Skrot-> as/with
[12:14] <zorglu_> ok i must do something wrong with this mount loop, i got 2 .bin and none is able to mount as iso
[12:15] <xavier> ok
[12:15] <rawrness> night all sleep well  and wake...
[12:17] <enbor> does someone know how to fix the problem with usb keys? it is detected but you can open it
[12:17] <enbor> *yot can't
[12:18] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:18] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:18] <infornography> How can I install the extra codecs? The documentation says its the libxine-extracodecs package in multiverse, but I see no such package
[12:19] <infornography> gp_: In my experiance both run at roughly the same speed. xubunty is somewhat quicker though
[12:19] <fdoving> gp_: not that i'm aware of.
[12:20] <aztun> is there any game similar to starcraft for linux?
[12:22] <fdoving> aztun: you can try boson
[12:23] <fdoving> aztun: http://boson.eu.org/
[12:23] <fdoving> it's in the repos.
[12:25] <fdoving> infornography: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-775cf32093c1bb05fef1e24465c9be753d760275
[12:26] <aztun> thx fdoving
[12:27] <enbor> bye
[12:27] <xavier> hey even after disabling firewall ... i cannot access HTTP .. irc works
[12:27] <xavier> had installed GuardDog
[12:27] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:27] <gp_> is kubuntu slower that ubuntu (gnome) ?
[12:28] <xavier> could not access the internet .. so disabled firewall .. i cannot access the internet
[12:28] <xavier> konq says : Unknown host www.google.com
[12:28] <infornography> I have added the multiverse, it's just not in there
[12:28] <TheGateKeeper> gp_: I would imagine they are much the same
[12:28] <TheGateKeeper> after all they just use different desktops
[12:29] <fdoving> infornography: then you have forgotten to run 'fetch updates' in adept, or 'sudo apt-get update' in konsole.
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> (k)ubuntu has some nice attributes, but speed ain't one of them
[12:30] <infornography> No, I havent forgotten anything, the package is not there
[12:30] <mike> does it mean that kubuntu si slow?
[12:31] <tom__> hi
[12:31] <infornography> Never mind
[12:31] <tom__> can someone help me out please, what i want to do is, everytime my usb stick is mounted, synchronise a certain folder with a folder on my hard drive, does anyone know how to do this?
[12:34] <xavier> i cannot access the ineternet .. i have disabled the firewall from guarddog .. help!
[12:35] <xavier> samba is running in system services ... but when i type smb:// in konqueror .. i get transfered to / (root)
[12:38] <tom__> anyone?
[12:39] <fdoving> xavier: what about smb:/ ?
[12:39] <xavier> when i type smb:// in konqueror .. i get transfered to / (root)
[12:40] <fdoving> xavier: what about smb:/ ?
[12:40] <xavier> i cannot access my lan
[12:41] <xavier> i want to be able to browse the computers on my network .. there are a lot of them .. but i cannot remember most by name
[12:41] <fdoving> xavier: are you in the same workgroup as they are?
[12:41] <xavier> yes WORKGROUP
[12:41] <xavier> i changed MSHOME to WORKGROUP
[12:41] <fdoving> ok.
[12:42] <fdoving> then it should just work.
[12:42] <xavier> there were 48 computers in WKGP
[12:42] <xavier> but now i cannot access any of them
[12:42] <fdoving> when i point konqueror to smb:/ i get a list of the computers in my workgroup.
[12:42] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: smb:/   <--- one / not //
[12:42] <xavier> DOHH!!!
[12:42] <fdoving> or, more like, i get the workgroup first, then i clik it, and get a list of computers.
[12:42] <xavier> i thought it was like http:// lolll .. sorry
[12:43] <xavier> hey
[12:43] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: :-)
[12:43] <xavier> i can c the workgroups
[12:43] <xavier> but when i click on them it says could not connect to host
[12:45] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: when konq starts the default page: should give you 'Network Folders' as an option to click on
[12:45] <fdoving> xavier: did you setup the username/password in kmenu -> system settings -> sharing -> local network browsing ?
[12:45] <xavier> yes .. just the username
[12:46] <TheGateKeeper> I haven't put anything there, & I get a prompt for both
[12:46] <TheGateKeeper> my guess is you need both bits of info or nothing
[12:46] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: i have changed the web profile so that konq takes me to google.com by defualt
[12:47] <ishkur> hmm i got a prob to read mp3 , tried with amarok and kaffein , both just skip them , tho the sound seems to works fine ... any idea pleaz ?
[12:47] <xavier> i cannot even access google.com now
[12:47] <xavier> am connected via pppoe
[12:48] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: that's what I use firefox for :-)
[12:48] <fdoving> ishkur: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[12:48] <ishkur> oh thx
[12:48] <xavier> when i run plog ... it says i have coinnected
[12:48] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: firefox is verry slow with just 5-7 plugins .. konq is very fast compared
[12:48] <TheGateKeeper> ishkur: install libxine-extracodecs & use the xime engine
[12:49] <xavier> i have 768 mb ram still
[12:49] <TheGateKeeper> !libxine-extracodecs
[12:49] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:49] <xavier> i installed swiftfox .. no difference in speed compared to firefox .. i have an AMD Athlon Xp
[12:50] <xavier> y can't i open any website ... but irc is working just fine??? i have disabled the firewall
[12:50] <lupine_85> anyone know why konqueror is being annoying every time I start it, saying:- Cannot find parent item file:///home in the tree. Internal error.
[12:51] <lupine_85> file:///home does exist
[12:51] <TheGateKeeper> xavier:  resolve.conf is ok I presume?
[12:51] <ishkur> maybe some dns issue xavier ? :s
[12:51] <lupine_85> resolv.conf not resolve.conf surely? ;)#
[12:51] <xavier> i cannot even ping to www.google.com
[12:51] <xavier> where is resolv.conf please?
[12:51] <TheGateKeeper> yep lupine_85 :-)
[12:52] <xavier> lupine_85: did u try typing just '/home/'
[12:52] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: in /etc
[12:53] <xavier> TheGateKeeper:  i can see two nameservers there
[12:54] <xavier> i have a dynamic ip .. i have not set these nameservers
[12:54] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: why is there a line that reads "search mshome.net" ?? in resolv.conf
[12:55] <lupine_85> xavier: it happens whenever I open an instance of konqueror
[12:56] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: hmm I only have one line pointing at my router, copy it as a backup, then suitable modify it
[12:56] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: can u please help me find the openDNS servers? trying those just in case
[12:56] <lupine_85> correction, it happens whenever I open an instance of konqueror which starts off in a directory
[12:56] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: not using a router?
[12:56] <xavier> TheGateKeeper:  nope
[12:56] <fdoving> xavier: <IP_ADDRESS> is open.
[12:57] <xavier> fdoving: whts <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:57] <lupine_85> IP address for a DNS server
[12:57] <lupine_85> IIRC
[12:57] <fdoving> xavier: it's a dns server. vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net
[12:58] <xavier> can i trust it? i have tried OpenDNS before
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper>     * <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper>     * <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:58] <lupine_85> konqueror works fine, it's just vaguely annoying to get this box all the time ;)
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: try that ^^^^
[12:58] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: ty
[12:58] <lupine_85> xavier: you're probably better using your ISP DNS servers
[12:58] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: add 2 more lines right?
[12:58] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: not sure if I have got it right
[12:59] <xavier> lupine_85: but i am not able to resolve www.google.com lol
[12:59] <lupine_85> can you resolve other domain names?
[12:59] <xavier> no lol
[12:59] <xavier> cannot access the http
[01:00] <lupine_85> any other protocols work
[01:00] <lupine_85> ?
[01:00] <xavier> i am using IRC right now ??
[01:00] <lupine_85> mm, true I guess :)
[01:00] <loxs> whats on the diffrence between the desktop cd download and the dvd download?
[01:00] <lupine_85> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[01:01] <lupine_85> (google)
[01:01] <xavier> let me c
[01:01] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: I would image you put nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>  in your conf file
[01:01] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: i added those
[01:01] <xavier> but guess what?
[01:01] <xavier> i cannot even ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:01] <lupine_85> thn it's not a DNS issue
[01:01] <xavier> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[01:01] <xavier> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[01:02] <lupine_85> hmm
[01:02] <lupine_85> do you have a default route set?
[01:02] <xavier> how? where? is that?
[01:02] <lupine_85> (probably not thaty, but best to check)
[01:02] <lupine_85> run "ip route show"
[01:02] <lupine_85> you should get a line "like" default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev rausb0
[01:03] <xavier> whoa i have 4 ppp connections !
[01:03] <lupine_85> via should be the IP of your gateway; dev should be whatever is the active connection
[01:03] <xavier> all with 4 different IP addresses
[01:03] <xavier> ppp0 ppp1 ppp2 ppp3 <<<< is this normal?
[01:03] <lupine_85> do you have a default?
[01:04] <xavier> i donno .. here's how i connect to the internet .. need a better PPPOE dialer
[01:04] <xavier> i run pon dsl-provider
[01:04] <xavier> my isp generally asks me to retry connecting like 3 time
[01:04] <xavier> s
[01:04] <xavier> so i run plog to chk
[01:05] <xavier> if not connected i retype pon dsl-provider
[01:05] <xavier> when i c an ip being assigned to me when i plog ... i know i am connected
[01:06] <xavier> i know .. i need a more automatic way to dial via PPPOE .. can some one help me with a pppoe dialer? i cannot install kpppoe ..
[01:06] <lupine_85> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=3cd24c4fe5d8bed22d25cce76593ee17&t=307848
[01:06] <lupine_85> was a firewall issue for that person
[01:06] <xavier> i cannot access the internet :))
[01:06] <xavier> i have disabled the firewall in gurddog
[01:06] <xavier> guarddog
[01:07] <xavier> lupine .. brb .. poffing all ppp connections and retrying .. shall be back
[01:07] <xavier> lupine_85: can u please tell me how i can install kpppoe ? i tried using Alien coz i got a RPM package for kpppoe
[01:08] <xavier> TheGateKeeper: kpppoe rpm installation help please?
[01:10] <lupine_85> you... probably don't want to install that
[01:10] <lupine_85> is the networking applet in System Settings inadequate?
[01:11] <lupine_85> if so, your best bet is to build from source.
[01:11] <lupine_85> erm, if not, rather
[01:11] <TheGateKeeper> xavier: you use alien for rpm install, but it may not work, you need to use the repos or a deb if it not working
[01:11] <TheGateKeeper> or compile from source
[01:12] <lupine_85> erm, if so - I was right the first time!
[01:13] <TheGateKeeper> yep
[01:13] <m4x1mum> http://mirror.pacific.net.au/kde/stable/3.5.5/kubuntu/pool-dapper/ <-- which one i need to download to update my kde?
[01:14] <TheGateKeeper> lupine_85: he has got it in stereo now :-)
[01:14] <lupine_85> given that it's 4 years old, I'd especially recommend not installing it
[01:14] <mj> Hey :) I need to install Apache 2 with some custom configs (--disable-rule=EXPAT) - is there a nice way to do that?
[01:14] <lupine_85> mj: when you say install, do you mean build?
[01:15] <mj> lupine_85: Yup - it's a ./configure option
[01:15] <lupine_85> ok - apt-get source <package>
[01:16] <lupine_85> then modify debian/rules to do what you want
[01:16] <lupine_85> modify debian/control to give it a custom name or version
[01:16] <lupine_85> finally dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to get some .deb files
[01:17] <fdoving> you probably also need to modify debian/changelog (name and version).
[01:17] <mj> Cool, ta - then just dpkg -i foo.deb ?
[01:17] <lupine_85> fdoving: good point :)
[01:17] <fdoving> !away > m0naway
[01:17] <lupine_85> yep
[01:17] <mj> I'll have a fiddle, thanks :)
[01:18] <thul_> I have an eksternal disc, on my sata internal disc i have freebsd installed. Kubuntu will not recognize my sata-disc so i can't install from the cd.. Can i boot into freebsd, mount the eksternal and copy some files from the cd onto the external and install kubuntu that way?
[01:19] <lupine_85> !install
[01:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:19] <lupine_85> summary: yes
[01:19] <lupine_85> all the methods at www.debian.org also work, with small modifications
[01:20] <marchello> saluto tutti, c' qualcuno che pu darmi un aiuto? grazie
[01:20] <lupine_85> !it
[01:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:21] <thul_> ok, I'll try lupine_85! thanks.. :)
[01:21] <lupine_85> np
[01:26] <|lostbyte|> Hi,
[01:26] <|lostbyte|> This is weird, i can hear my mic, i can record it. but it wont go threw skype ?
[01:27] <|lostbyte|> i.e, the Remote person cannot hear me.
[01:40] <gingillo> how do i play mp3?
[01:40] <fdoving> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[01:41] <gingillo> i dont find libxine-extracodecs
[01:41] <fdoving> !repos
[01:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:41] <fdoving> enable multiverse as descibed on that page.
[01:41] <xavier> hi .. whew .. i am back
[01:41] <yuma> hello
[01:41] <Linuh> some one help me i can not install flashplayer for firefox
[01:42] <xavier> seriously people
[01:42] <Linuh> give me link to guid ubuntu
[01:42] <Linuh> plz
[01:42] <fdoving> Linuh: http://help.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <xavier> i need a better pppoe manager ... or else i will go mad .. doing pon dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog :: dsl-provider :: plog ::
[01:42] <alex_> Hi ! Can not find a page where it is explain how to upgrade from breezy to draper. Anyone can help please or give me a link ?
[01:42] <fdoving> !upgrade
[01:42] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:43] <yuma> !svg
[01:43] <ubotu> svg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon14
[01:43] <xavier> pon dsl-provider <<< i have to keep doing that .. my isp makes me redial again and again
[01:43] <xavier> !pppoe
[01:43] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:44] <yuma> which program should I use if I want to make 3D draws to insert into a LaTeX document?
[01:44] <Clown> hi
[01:44] <alex_> Hi ! Can not find a page where it is explain how to upgrade from breezy to draper. Anyone can help please or give me a link ?
[01:44] <alex_> Oops Sorry ..
[01:44] <Clown> there are some command for check if i am running / ussing xgl / beryl now?
[01:46] <raul12>  my adept is opening in read only mode plz help
[01:46] <raul12>  how can i bring back to normal mode
[01:46] <raul12>  ??
[01:47] <thul_> join #freebsd
[01:47] <mike> how can i change kdm theme?
[01:47] <thul_> hmm
[01:47] <thul_> sorry:P
[01:47] <raul12>  plz help ??
[01:47] <fdoving> !adept crash fi
[01:47] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[01:47] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[01:47] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:47] <fdoving> raul12: ^^
[01:47] <raul12> ok
[01:48] <xavier> is there a better way to connect via pppoe??
[01:48] <ishkur> hmm i still cant hear mps even tho all needed packages are installed :|
[01:49] <ishkur> mp3s even
[01:49] <gingillo> how do i mount a partition with windows in another disk? can someone help me?
[01:50] <fdoving> !fat32
[01:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:50] <egonw> how do I mount a SD memory card from my digital camera (dmesg shows it being inserted/removed)?
[01:50] <xavier> fdoving: can u help me install kpppoe?
[01:50] <egonw> (indicated to be inserted into a pcmcia slot)
[01:51] <lupine_85> egonw: usually they're sd* devices
[01:51] <lupine_85> so try mounting all the different sd* device files in /dev
[01:52] <lupine_85> (often it's sda, for instance, rather than sda1, that you need to mount)
[01:52] <xavier> lupine_85: hi.. i am using 9 ppp connections right now .. when i run ip route show
[01:52] <egonw> lupine_85: dir: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[01:53] <xavier> when only the 9th is active .. i am going mad dialing 9 times to connect to the internet! everytime my isp disconnects me
[01:53] <lupine_85> xavier: I've no idea, sorry - I don't use ppp
[01:54] <yuma> egonw: dmesg doesn't show where it's the device that represents the sd card?
[01:54] <xavier> ok
[01:54] <lupine_85> maybe it's a timeout ot something
[01:54] <lupine_85> or*
[01:54] <ishkur> amarok just keep skipping mp3 files as if they are empty or smthg , tested system sound and it works tho
[01:54] <egonw> yuma: no :(
[01:54] <daco> hello I can't install a packege on my kubuntu installation, and I don't know how can i get help here
[01:55] <egonw> pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0 <- is last line
[01:55] <yuma> egonw: theres something called pcmcia in /dev?
[01:55] <egonw> no /dev/pcm*
[01:55] <yuma> hmmm
[01:56] <egonw> ok, so a driver missing?
[01:56] <alex_> Is a auto-updater avalable in kubuntu ? I got it on ubuntu .
[01:56] <daco> hello I can't install a package on my kubuntu installation, and I don't know how can i get help here
[01:56] <yuma> egonw: I think it's possible, I've never plugged anything in pcmcia slot
[01:56] <fdoving> alex_: no. not yet, it's a gole for edgy+1
[01:57] <egonw> daco: what you're trying to install?
[01:57] <fdoving> goal that is.
[01:57] <alex_> fdoving,  so only for ubuntu , right ?
[01:57] <egonw> yuma: yes, I saw some comments on having to install 2.6.17
[01:57] <yuma> egonw: any sg*?
[01:57] <fdoving> alex_: right.
[01:57] <egonw> which I did
[01:57] <egonw> yuma: nope
[01:58] <yuma> egonw: I think sometimes the scsi drives are called that way, maybe the cards too
[01:58] <alex_> fdoving, edgy + 1 ?
[01:58] <fdoving> alex_: the release after edgy.
[01:58] <fdoving> !edgy
[01:58] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:58] <daco> Hello! no kubuntu is alredy installed. i'm tring to install gcc with apt-get but i can't,egonw
[01:59] <fdoving> daco: install the package named 'build-essential'
[01:59] <kudu> try to install build-essential
[01:59] <alex_> fdoving, thought current version was drapper drake :\
[01:59] <egonw> daco: what erorr message do you get?
[01:59] <alex_> !drapper
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <fdoving> alex_: it is, edgy is the 'current development version'
[02:00] <alex_> fdoving, ok thanks !
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> sudo apt-get install ubuntu
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> whats the package
[02:01] <alex_> fdoving, I m upgarding and ubuntu is asking be for debconf configuration ... Don't know what it is ...
[02:01] <alex_> !debconf
[02:01] <ubotu> debconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support debconf are configured when they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using dpkg-reconfigure
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> ubuntu-<something here>
[02:01] <Rapidwolve> i forget what it is
[02:01] <egonw> -desktop?
[02:01] <daco> it saw that the package  hasn't version available
[02:02] <egonw> that normally means wrong package name
[02:02] <Rapidwolve> egonw: thanks it ws right
[02:02] <infornography> Is the libxine-extracodecs package called something else now? Because it doesn't appear to be there
[02:02] <egonw> daco: try build-essential as suggested by others
[02:03] <egonw> daco: that should get you a gcc version
[02:04] <daco> egonw: gcc isn't installed i have tried with cuild-essential. it said that the package  hasn't version available
[02:05] <T3hWiz0rd> kopete freezes everytime i launch it...
[02:05] <egonw> daco: for any name confusion, try packages.ubuntu.com
[02:05] <egonw> and use the search functionality
[02:05] <daco> egonw: ok i'll try
[02:06] <Ropechoborra> How do i create a new file in KDE Desktop ? (Like right click-> new)
[02:10] <ad> !upgrade
[02:10] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:11] <daco> egonw i write: apt-get install gcc-4.0-base the answer is that the package was already installed
[02:11] <daco> but i havent gcc
[02:11] <xavier> hey whts the kb shortcut for task manager in KDE?
[02:13] <ad> They say in the upgrade (but it is a ubuntu doc) to update "update-manager" but this is a gnome package :\ What should I upgrade ? What is the kde package for this ?
[02:14] <ad> The aim is to upgrade from brezzy to drapper
[02:14] <daco> egonw i write: apt-get install gcc-4.0-base the answer is that the package was already installed
[02:14] <lupine_85> you could just edit sources.list yourself?
[02:14] <lupine_85> I'm not sure if there is a GUI options for KDE
[02:15] <lupine_85> of course, update-manager will still work - just pull in a load of gnome deps
[02:17] <Ragol> I have some problems with my network connection in my kubuntu machine (description will follow)
[02:18] <Ropechoborra> How do i create a new file in KDE Desktop ? (Like right click-> new)
[02:18] <egonw> daco: and gcc-4.0 ?
[02:18] <Ragol> whatever I'm trying, the first response is network is not working, but if I try the same address with the same program again, it will work
[02:19] <Ragol> no, it's not dns related, because the same thing will happen with ip numbers
[02:19] <Ragol> oh, and the windows machines work great
[02:19] <fdoving> ls
[02:19] <fdoving> ops.
[02:20] <daco> has not version avaliable
[02:20] <daco> egonw  has not version avaliable
[02:20] <ad> lupine_85: well ... update manager is a gui ?
[02:21] <ad> for gnome ?
[02:21] <lupine_85> gnome programs *can* run in KDE
[02:22] <lupine_85> cleaner to do it using apt-get dist-upgrade, though
[02:22] <lupine_85> !update
[02:22] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:22] <Ropechoborra> lupine_85 is it safe to upgrade now? i mean... is edgy stable ?
[02:22] <lupine_85> define stable
[02:23] <Ropechoborra> I dont know... everything works as it should?
[02:23] <lupine_85> it "works for me" - quite well - but I'm not running a stock system, really
[02:23] <lupine_85> apparently the edgy kernel is a bit b0rken atm
[02:23] <lupine_85> (I'm running my own, so it didn't affect me ;) )
[02:23] <lupine_85> in addition, the actual upgrade process is still a bit bumpy
[02:24] <Ropechoborra> Im kind of new... what do you mean by your own kernel?
[02:25] <arejaytee> u know KFC kernel !
[02:26] <T3hWiz0rd> okay that should be my last join/leave lol
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> How do i create a new file in KDE Desktop ? (Like right click-> new)
[02:26] <daco> egonw "apt-get upgrade" said me that all is update... is that possible if i have install kubuntu from the live older than july
[02:26] <fdoving> Ropechoborra: right click -> create new -> select
[02:26] <arejaytee> right click -> create new?
[02:26] <Ropechoborra> Dont got create new =(
[02:28] <dognews> hi
[02:28] <egonw> daco: dunno... what does your apt sources.list say?
[02:29] <Ropechoborra> fdoving I dont got create new option =|
[02:29] <daco> egonw: the only things not commentet are :
[02:29] <dognews> Why do I get an error ("failed! (12)") of cafix (a data transmitting prog for casio calculators)? Can it be that I didn't configure my serial port correctly? Do I even have to configure anything for using that port?
[02:29] <daco> egonw: deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[02:30] <daco> egonw: deb-src http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[02:30] <egonw> maybe something wrong with the archive? you could try the main archives
[02:31] <daco> where i can find the main archivie?
[02:31] <rubens_> tenho um note com teclado US e no kubuntu basta eu apertar ctrl+alt+K para mudar o teclado de US pata ABNT
[02:31] <rubens_> como fao isso no ubuntu com Gnome
[02:31] <egonw> oh... and just make sure to add "main" at the end of that line, or make sure that another line gives that
[02:32] <moonsky> hi all
[02:32] <daco> egonw: ok ill try
[02:32] <moonsky> got pb regarding USB support after update to kde 3.5.5
[02:32] <moonsky> its eems that usb does not work anymore, it does not mount,
[02:32] <moonsky> and has pbs
[02:37] <daco> egonw: thank you very much, the  build-essential is installing...
[02:46] <Firetech> hmm, CUPS in KDE isn't working for me anymore (upgraded to 3.5.5 a few days ago)
[02:47] <Firetech> It says it canb't connect to the server, but it seems to be running fine
[02:48] <pierresabatier_> Hello everybody, I have a problem whith my screen, there is only 2 choise xhith xrandr, and I want a "resolution" higher
[02:49] <pierresabatier_> who know how to change this?
[02:53] <mike> need help how do i fix this problem, t... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found
[02:53] <cpk2> pierresabatier_: you can probably add the desired resolutions into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:54] <pierresabatier_> how can I do that?
[02:54] <lupine_85> mik: install the -dev packages for Qt
[02:54] <lupine_85> !info libqt3-dev
[02:54] <ubotu> Package libqt3-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[02:55] <mike> how do i fix it?
[02:55] <lupine_85> hmm
[02:55] <lupine_85> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[02:55] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[02:55] <lupine_85> try installing that
[02:55] <mike> ok thanx for the fast rep ^^
[02:56] <cpk2> !resolution
[02:56] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:57] <mike> when i install libqt3-mt-dev the came up WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[02:57] <mike>   liblcms1-dev
[02:57] <mike> just continue?
[02:59] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:01] <vinicri> herlle everyone. i trying to install this theme pack http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42697
[03:01] <vinicri> but i cant find a way in kubuntu
[03:01] <vinicri> where shoul i go
[03:02] <cpk2> can you use gnome themes in kde?
[03:02] <vinicri> oh... thx
[03:02] <vinicri> understood
[03:03] <mike> lupine_85 : after installing libqt3-mt-dev theres a new error KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[03:03] <lupine_85> then install the KDE headers
[03:03] <lupine_85> rinse and repeat until no errors remain
[03:04] <cpk2> vinicri: that was a question, i'm not sure if you can or cant
[03:04] <mike> ohh man......... lots of work all im trying to do is make install for kdm theme manager T_T
[03:04] <cpk2> mike: why are you compiling it yourself?
[03:05] <lupine_85> *shrug*
[03:05] <lupine_85> that's the nature of building from source
[03:05] <mike> i got poor internet connection
[03:05] <lupine_85> hence why people use distributions in the first place
[03:05] <David_Edmundson> if you're installing KD3, look into apt-build
[03:05] <cpk2> how does compiling yourself save bandwidth?
[03:05] <David_Edmundson> it doesn't.
[03:05] <lupine_85> not even close ;)
[03:05] <mike> cpk2 : i know
[03:07] <narasim_7> hello all
[03:08] <mike> thanx for d uhm support..
[03:08] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: you know that might be just the thing that I have been looking for
[03:08] <moonsky> so anybody knows about this usb bug  with kde 3.5.5 ?
[03:09] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: do you know much about apt-build?
[03:10] <David_Edmundson> used it a few times. it's pretty much the same as apt-get souce then debian/rules
[03:10] <moonsky> it looks like im talking to wind
[03:10] <lupine_85> !info kde
[03:10] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:10] <cpk2> tpying to wind?
[03:10] <David_Edmundson> debian/rules is a shell script that builds a .deb of the source. is contained in all debinan source pacakges
[03:10] <Firetech> CUPS printing in KDE 3.5.5 (for dapper) is broken. (kdeprint/kprinter can't connect to cupsd.) After some investigation, it seems like an upstream patch (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115891) "fixed" something that already worked in kubuntu (CUPS 1.2 support). cupsd is up and running, and Gnome can connect to it.
[03:10] <cpk2> now that would be an odd thing to do
[03:11] <moonsky>  does anybody could at least say hello, and answerd when a question is asked
[03:11] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: how does apt-build differ from apt-get source -b?
[03:12] <lupine_85> moonsky: do you really want 318 people to say hello to you?
[03:12] <David_Edmundson> it also builds the dependencies rather than just installing binaries of them
[03:12] <moonsky> well, a minimum of respect, thats pity for me to have to talk like that to provok any reaction here
[03:12] <David_Edmundson> and you can do apt-build dist-upgrade
[03:12] <lupine_85> !patience
[03:12] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:12] <lupine_85> *shrug*
[03:13] <moonsky> especially when something is asked for a problem that plenty of peops have
[03:13] <vinicri> i'm newbe :-/.. i know some definitions in linux,, have read some books but there's plenty of thiung that i dont know yet.. can you give me some sites where i can learn new things..
[03:13] <lupine_85> www.linuxquestions.org ?
[03:13] <moonsky> ubotu, mv bots /dev/null
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv bots /dev/null - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <sisyphe> fr
[03:13] <lupine_85> cool, kicker just dies on me
[03:13] <lupine_85> died*
[03:14] <mike> lupine_85 : is there a kdm theme manager for Kubuntu? ^^
[03:14] <sisyphe> c koi le salon ubuntu pour les frenchies ?
[03:14] <moonsky> sisyphe,  reflechies
[03:14] <sisyphe> salut!
[03:14] <sisyphe> huhu
[03:14] <moonsky>  kubuntu-fr
[03:14] <sisyphe> j ai essay #ubuntu.fr
[03:14] <moonsky> i leave cause as usual there was no answer here
[03:14] <sisyphe> merci le canadien
[03:15] <moonsky> canadien mon cul
[03:15] <sisyphe> aha
[03:15] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: wow, that means apt-build will give my computer something to do at night =P
[03:15] <lguilherme> bom dia alguem poderia me ajudar a instalar minha placa de video no ubuntu? 6.06l
[03:15] <sisyphe> t koi au juste?
[03:15] <moonsky> sisyphe, aprend irc
[03:15] <moonsky> aprend la gestion des hots
[03:15] <moonsky> hosts
[03:15] <sisyphe> BUrrPPP
[03:15] <sisyphe> hum
[03:16] <sisyphe> je sais pas tr bin ce ke tu veux dire
[03:16] <sisyphe> hu
[03:16] <David_Edmundson> cpk2: I'm fairly sure you can do apt-build everything currently installed on my system
[03:17] <David_Edmundson> my friends house did that on one of the machines. with DistCC set up on everyone elses box
[03:17] <David_Edmundson> combined proccessing power of about 12Ghz
[03:17] <cpk2> i've just got my poor p4 at at about 2.4ghz
[03:18] <David_Edmundson> well have a fun time :-D
[03:18] <TheGateKeeper> so does that give you any speed advantage?
[03:18] <cpk2> and I have no clue what the difference between p4 and p4m is but I am assuming that i have a p4 =)
[03:18] <David_Edmundson> I had a gentoo install on my P4 @ 1.6 for a while
[03:18] <David_Edmundson> p4m= mobile edition
[03:20] <vinicri> i can't install this themehttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6234 i dont know what i'm doing wrong
[03:20] <David_Edmundson> TheGateKeeper: a compile makes a small difference, especially on the core layers such as X or the kernel
[03:20] <cpk2> its doesnt seem you can tab complete with apt-build like you can with apt-get
[03:21] <David_Edmundson> generally not worth it. The real reason for doing it is because you can change something called Use Tags
[03:21] <TheGateKeeper> David_Edmundson: have you ever installed arch linux?
[03:22] <David_Edmundson> no, what's special about it?
[03:22] <cpk2> i just want to build stuff from source to give my computers un used cycles something to do =)
[03:22] <TheGateKeeper> David_Edmundson: 'speed' in a word
[03:22] <David_Edmundson> cpk2: erm. you could use it to help cure cancer or hunt for aliens?
[03:23] <cpk2> David_Edmundson: dont believe in aliens and am not so sure i could help cure cancer through my schools firewall
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> you have your own computer in a school at night?
[03:24] <cpk2> I live on campus at my university
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> ah, Uni
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> makes more sense
[03:24] <David_Edmundson> where at?
[03:27] <cpk2> well double checking with the whois SJSU =P
[03:28] <cpk2> haha i like how the man of the apt-build says bugs: many.
[03:30] <dhq> !edgy
[03:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:34] <arukuro> is there an irc for america's army here
[03:53] <snook353> kubuntu decided this morning to only take-up about half of my screen
[03:53] <snook353> what do i do?
[03:53] <cpk2> use the mouse to scroll it over?
[03:53] <snook353> yeah
[03:53] <snook353> that's not a solution
[03:54] <snook353> it decided this morning, as in, its never done that before
[03:55] <cpk2> snook353: can you actually scroll the screen around with the mouse?
[03:55] <snook353> yeah, i can cpk2
[03:55] <cpk2> snook353: does ctrl alt + do anything?
[03:56] <snook353> what is "do"? cpk2
[03:56] <cpk2> snook353: press ctrl alt +
[03:56] <snook353> no.  my computer's just makin a lot of noises.
[03:56] <TheGateKeeper> what's the tar command for a <filename>.tar.bz2 to extract please folks?
[03:57] <cpk2> snook353: are you in x right now?
[03:57] <snook353> yeah cpk2
[03:57] <snook353> i changed some eye candy in the system settings gui
[03:58] <cpk2> TheGateKeeper: tar xvjf
[03:58] <snook353> and i installed openoffice quickstarter cpk2
[03:58] <cpk2> snook353: ctrl alt + (or -) should change the screen res
[03:58] <cpk2> this is + and - on the keyboard
[03:59] <snook353> cntrl alt + or - does nothing cpk2
[03:59] <cpk2> snook353: is it physically only using half the monitor space or the resolution is really big and only displaying half of your desktop?
[04:00] <snook353> physically only using half, cpk2
[04:00] <snook353> except its centered, cpk2, in the middle
[04:00] <cpk2> that is really really odd
[04:01] <snook353> it ususally does not do this.  started when turned on this morning. cpk2
[04:01] <snook353> yeah, i had this prob with knoppix, but that was a software issue, not a glitch, cpk2
[04:01] <cpk2> so why couldnt it be the same software issue?
[04:01] <snook353> i could try turning it on until it decides to stop. cpk2
[04:02] <snook353> notech, cuz it has been normal until this morning, cpk2
[04:03] <snook353> i'm gonna restart somethin, cuz i don't think there's anything else i can do, cpk2
[04:03] <snook353> i apt-get updated, and upgraded cpk2
[04:03] <snook353> and there was nothin wrong cpk2
[04:03] <andrzejsz> snook: are you using notebook-class machine? or desktop?
[04:03] <cpk2> could always try dkpg-rconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:04] <snook353> notebook
[04:04] <cpk2> reconfigure even
[04:04] <andrzejsz> ok. compaq maybe?
[04:04] <snook353> toshiba sat
[04:04] <andrzejsz> hmm...
[04:04] <andrzejsz> i think it may be just the resolution:
[04:04] <andrzejsz> on my compaq/hp when it is set lower than nominal one
[04:04] <andrzejsz> the screen is not stretched...
[04:05] <andrzejsz> check screen res in your X settings.
[04:05] <snook353> ok, andrzejsz
[04:06] <snook353> screen rez is correct
[04:06] <andrzejsz> i guess my guess was incorrect...
[04:07] <snook353> i Did have this prob with (kde) knoppix, but never ubuntu
[04:07] <snook353> even though it was a diff kind of prob
[04:08] <snook353> it takes up small space of screen from log-in
[04:08] <snook353> at log-in, it also does
[04:10] <andrzejsz> try to reconfigure package, as cpk2 suggested...
[04:10] <snook353> ok, thanks
[04:10] <cpk2> which is a shot in the dark
[04:10] <cpk2> but wont hurt
[04:13] <ad> HOw to burn a iso ?
[04:13] <snook353> i'm restarting.
[04:14] <cpk2> ad: k3b will i believe
[04:14] <ad> k3b  ; well i can not find the option ...
[04:14] <ian|> Hi! Is there any simple way to get a "root"-konquerer (or a konquerer asking for a password before writing files in system-directories like /etc/ ?)
[04:15] <cpk2> ian|: sure run command... kdesu konquerer
[04:15] <gingillo> hi, my adpet gives me an error: Could not open cache, can someone help me?
[04:15] <cpk2> ad: burn cd image
[04:17] <ad> cpk2: oh yes .. did not see it ... pfff .. thnaks
[04:18] <cpk2> ian|: hrmm konquerer wasnt a command =X
[04:18] <jende> Hi Folks!
[04:18] <gingillo> hi, my adpet gives me an error: Could not open cache, can someone help me?
[04:19] <jende> has anyone got an idea if the download servers for edgy are in trouble?
[04:19] <jende> why I'm asking?the downloadmanager says that it'll take approx 42hrs to download the iso
[04:20] <andrzejsz> gingillo: please check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169459
[04:20] <jende> so I do have a download speed of ~25KB/sec, which is bad
[04:21] <jende> is there another mirror? maybe one in europe preferrably in germany which I can choose?
[04:22] <cpk2> jende: which mirror are you using right now?
[04:22] <jende> cpk2: hold on ... I'll check
[04:23] <jende> cpk2: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/beta/
[04:23] <dragonkh> hello
[04:23] <andrzejsz> jende: please check http://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/linux/ubuntu/releases/edgy/
[04:24] <dragonkh> anyone know much about configuring sshd ?
[04:24] <andrzejsz> or just go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[04:24] <andrzejsz> select random one
[04:24] <andrzejsz> and click "parent directory"
[04:24] <andrzejsz> :)
[04:24] <jende> andrzejsz: :-) yep, that's going well
[04:24] <puttlick> How do I get Kubuntu to play my MP3's?
[04:25] <_bbeck> dragonkh: ask your question, and if someone can help they'll say something.
[04:25] <jende> andrzejsz: I choose the one in bayreuth
[04:25] <andrzejsz> your choice...
[04:25] <andrzejsz> :)
[04:25] <dragonkh> I want to change my sshd config so that it lets me ssh like this :   ssh user:password@host  rather than prompting me for a password
[04:25] <dragonkh> do you think this is possible with ssh ?
[04:26] <jende> andrzejsz: and goes 6times faster than the one in the US <- the chose before was in the US I guess
[04:26] <puttlick> How do I get Kubuntu to play mp3?
[04:26] <jende> puttlick: so you're mp3's are on hdd and you say, that you can't play them?
[04:27] <cpk2> puttlick: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:27] <puttlick> jende: Exactly ;)
[04:27] <puttlick> cpk2: okay will try that...
[04:27] <jende> puttlick: have you done what cpk2 just said
[04:28] <nuku> dragonkh: you could use public key authentification..
[04:28] <jende> andrzejsz: just one last question the iso on the other mirror had ~3,5GB and the one iin Bayreuth has 683Megs. what's the difference?
[04:29] <andrzejsz> i guess one of this isos is DVD :)
[04:29] <puttlick> It says it's not accessiable....
[04:29] <andrzejsz> puttlick: check http://linux.mty.itesm.mx/wiki/index.php/Mp3_en_kubuntu
[04:29] <morghanphoenix> quick question, what is the terminal options required to get konsole to open in a 25x77 window?
[04:29] <jende> andrzejsz: sure that is
[04:29] <puttlick> Okey^ thanks
[04:30] <morghanphoenix> I'm trying to add something to the kmenu, but it needs a window bigger than konsole wants to launch in.
[04:31] <PiR> hi
[04:31] <andrzejsz> jende: just download CD iso for your architecture
[04:31] <andrzejsz> :)
[04:32] <pieRReSabatier> et bien, non, ce que je pensais n'a pas march
[04:32] <jende> andrzejsz: I'm already doing iit and will get all the other features, i might need with apt
[04:32] <nuku> morghanphoenix: konsole --help reveals --vt_sz CCxLL :)
[04:33] <morghanphoenix> thanks, I can't seem to find anything in man pages.
[04:33] <PiR> pieRReSabatier : just english in this chan, but you can speak french in #kubuntu-fr
[04:33] <nuku> morghanphoenix: --help can also help :)
[04:33] <jende> cpk2: cause a friend of mine need it to compare for somewhatever reasons some features (Deian <-> KUbuntu) and his DSL Router just died
[04:34] <morghanphoenix> nice, and here I've been doing it the hard way
[04:34] <jende> cpk2: so he asked me to do it for him and basically I'm happy with edgy the eway it is already
[04:34] <PiR> I'd like to know, if it is a dictionnary multilanguage (i search german-french) OpenSource in linux
[04:35] <PiR> nobody ?
[04:35] <jende> PiR: not as much as I know
[04:36] <jende> PiR: you may want to use google / googles translator
[04:36] <morghanphoenix> Yeah for rogue-like games!
[04:36] <jende> cpk2: is that okay? ;-)
[04:37] <cpk2> jende: was just making a comment =)
[04:37] <jende> cpk2: ah, okay
[04:37] <cpk2> mostly for those that come in after edgy has broken them =P
[04:38] <PiR> jende : googlestranslator is ... hum ... how to say it ... to bad !
[04:38] <PiR> :)
[04:38] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: that's ok they can find the bugs for all the rest of us lol
[04:38] <cpk2> =D
[04:39] <PiR> I search an Utralingua dictionnary like
[04:39] <PiR> but Ultralingua isn't free
[04:39] <jende> cpk2: I had just one little drama after the upgrade *g*
[04:39] <jende> TheGateKeeper: mine looks quite stable as yet
[04:40] <jende> TheGateKeeper: once I'll discover a bug I'll let you know anyway
[04:40] <TheGateKeeper> jende: good :-) did it break anything in the upgrade process?
[04:41] <nuku> PiR: maybe try dict.org with kdict as frontend.. but i don't know how good the quality of its ger/fr dictionaries is
[04:41] <jende> TheGateKeeper: basically what happened was that after the Kernel and it's modules have been loaded it was freezing, which was not such a drama for me, cause I used the rescue mode and went into
[04:41] <jende> TheGateKeeper: chroot and fixed it this way. I guess it has been my fault anyway
[04:42] <PiR> ok thanks nuku , i'll tray it
[04:42] <TheGateKeeper> jende: how was it your fault?
[04:44] <jende> TheGateKeeper: okay...it was my fault, because I right after I did sudo apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade Adept gave me a warning so I went into Adept and haven't really finished the whole upgrade process in the console mode with apt
[04:44] <jende> TheGateKeeper: the Adept warning might confuse people as it has confused me
[04:44] <morghanphoenix> what is a .jar file? an archive or an executable?
[04:45] <jende> morghanphoenix: an archive
[04:45] <andrzejsz> morghanphoenix: Java archive
[04:45] <andrzejsz> some of them are runnable with java -jar JARFILE
[04:45] <morghanphoenix> They don't need compiling, do they?
[04:45] <ad> !lts
[04:45] <ubotu> lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:46] <nuku> PiR: forget about dict.org it just contains about 6000 words in the fr/de dict :(
[04:46] <andrzejsz> morghanphoenix: no, they don't. just type "java -jar FILE"
[04:46] <jende> TheGateKeeper: and after I've been in the chroot it took me like another 15mins and eversthing was fine
[04:46] <jende> TheGateKeeper: and after I've been in the chroot it took me like another 15mins and everything was fine
[04:47] <morghanphoenix> woah, lots of missing toolkits, what do I need for this? I'm just running the current jre from sun's webpage.
[04:47] <ryanakca> How do I make amarok display similar to iTunes? (genres, artists and albums in three collumns on the top half of amarok, while the bottom half is tracks)
[04:47] <morghanphoenix> AWT
[04:48] <morghanphoenix> Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[04:48] <jende> TheGateKeeper: did that help you?Or dou you want me to explain the process more precise?
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> jende: no that's fine thanx
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> jende: my intention is not to upgrade until the end of november at the earliest
[04:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy All !
[04:50] <Clown> hi gays
[04:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, Oct 26 is gonna be a DL nightmare anyway
[04:50] <cpk2> TheGateKeeper: i wasnt going to do it till around xmas time so I have all the time in the world just in case i break something =)
[04:50] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I guess it'll be the easiest solution to tell users on the Howto upgrade page that Adept could spit aou a warning but it's not worth using adept, instead..it makes it worth.
[04:51] <gzevspero> Hi, I just installed a kvm switch and when using it I can't get my kubuntu resolution to go any higher than 640x480. I go into admin mode but still no other resolution options exist. I can get kubuntu to run in normal resolution when I'm connected directly, not via the kvm. Any ideas?
[04:52] <morghanphoenix> either crappy hardware or need to configure xorg
[04:52] <TheGateKeeper> well I don't really use adept, I use apt-get/synaptic
[04:52] <cpk2> gzevspero: probably need to edit xorg with the monitor plugged into the switch
[04:52] <jende> cpk2: on the other boxes I have a Deb-Sid and a Deb-Etch, so I knew what I'm doing, except with Adept's bloody warnings
[04:52] <morghanphoenix> oh, kvm, maybe it detects that as your monitor, you using plub n play?
[04:52] <morghanphoenix> yes, plub n play
[04:53] <morghanphoenix> good one
[04:53] <gzevspero> cpk2: how do I edit xorg? (my first day on linux)
[04:53] <cpk2> jende: never said you didnt, just I think that some people up to edgy and expect to not have any problems somehow
[04:53] <morghanphoenix> so, no idea what a awt toolkit is?
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> my intention in any event is to put gentoo on this box, then make a decision as to whether I need to replace hardware
[04:54] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: probably this libgcj7-awt - AWT peer runtime libraries for use with gcj
[04:54] <jende> cpk2: I know you didn't
[04:54] <jende> TheGateKeeper: I don't like gentoo, to be honest
[04:54] <TheGateKeeper> I have never been fond of this upgrade process as it seems to break things more often than not
[04:55] <jende> TheGateKeeper: honestly, the edgy upgrade went fine and nothing got broken at all
[04:55] <morghanphoenix> thanks cpk2, that was it.
[04:55] <cpk2> since i have /home all by itself
[04:55] <jende> cpk2: should work
[04:56] <morghanphoenix> resident java apps now running
[04:56] <cpk2> but I am worried that I might somehow cause problems for myself anyways
[04:56] <jende> cpk2: maybe you just want to make an imake first?
[04:56] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: you probable could, but you should not have to, seems to me having to that kills the whole point of installing linux
[04:56] <jende> cpk2: want to know how I did it?
[04:57] <zen> ok i have a unusual question i cant see why exactly but i think i know ... my webpages load noice and fast but a download tends to load slow i loaded the same page on my other system and noice and fast so i tried the download and yep fast too.. so i think it may be the traffic of the network card but how do i set  it to a fster speed or maybe its the setup of the system it is pretty standard atm i can get files from the ubuntu server noice and
[04:57] <zen>  firefox or the whole http system any ideas please let me know
[04:57] <cpk2> jende: sure, never heard of imake
[04:58] <jende> cpk2: imake???
[04:58] <cpk2> TheGateKeeper: how so? all of my user configs will be saved and all of my user information will be saved
[04:58] <cpk2> to me that is one of the biggest points of installing linux, your important data is seperate from the system
[04:59] <jende> cpk2: sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy /g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <jende> cpk2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:59] <umb> chi pu aiutarmi con kubuntu?
[04:59] <jende> cpk2: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:59] <jende> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:00] <morghanphoenix> great, running, but freezes because of gtk errors, I think I'm about to give up on java
[05:00] <andrzejsz> umb: most of us do not speak language, you've just spoken...
[05:00] <jende> cpk2: that's all I did
[05:00] <umb> l need help about kubuntu
[05:00] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: did you apt-get java?
[05:01] <andrzejsz> umb: just ask (in english). if someone knows the answer, will answer you.
[05:01] <justaguy2> is there a 64bit kubuntu channel?
[05:01] <jende> umb: like what?what kind of help?
[05:01] <umb> ati xpress 200 driver configuration/installation
[05:01] <morghanphoenix> no, I dovnloaded and installed the bin
[05:01] <marek> is synaptic in kubuntu also ?
[05:02] <TheGateKeeper> marek: yep
[05:02] <jende> marek: there is
[05:02] <justaguy2> can be in kubuntu if you want, I use it
[05:02] <marek> thnx ;]
[05:02] <TheGateKeeper> apt-get install synaptic
[05:02] <cpk2> morghanphoenix: it might have been wiser to apt-get java =)
[05:02] <justaguy2> I hate adept
[05:02] <andrzejsz> umb: please check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258176
[05:02] <loxs> is tux racer still about?
[05:03] <umb> marco parla italiano?
[05:03] <marek> sorry for stupid questions ;]  i used only gentoo before
[05:03] <Clown> lox yes but now is named panetpenguin-racer
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> wtf? SDL now, argh! I wish people would write dependancies into thier damn source packages!
[05:03] <jende> cpk2: did you get my stuff?
[05:03] <morghanphoenix> whatever happened to readme files?
[05:03] <justaguy2> is there an edgy kubuntu 64bit user here, have a question about duplicate monitor set-up showing in hardware / kde-systemsettings
[05:04] <justaguy2> wondering if it might be a bug
[05:04] <TheGateKeeper> cpk2: I just think have to do a fresh install is a lot of uneccessary pratting around
[05:04] <cpk2> jende: yes i did thanks, but I will not be upgrading to edgy at least until the beginning of november =)
[05:04] <jende> cpk2: fair enough ;-)
[05:06] <justaguy2> wow, lots of people "standing" around, eh?
[05:06] <jende> justaguy2: wouldn't say so. I can't really help you, but just a few weeks ago there was a thread on the debian(ger)mailing list. and all it needed was a bit of modification in the settings
[05:06] <SlimG> anyone got a howto for using logitech quickcam in kopete?
[05:07] <abattoir> !webcam
[05:07] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:07] <justaguy2> This issue is not causing me a problem, but just thought there would have been others running into this "symptom", that's all
[05:07] <BluesKaj> I'm wondering what advantages edgy 6.10 will have over dapper 6.06 in terms of real world uses ?
[05:07] <abattoir> SlimG: ^^^ that might help you set it up
[05:07] <justaguy2> am running an edgy updated config, without latest kernel upgrade
[05:08] <SlimG> abattoir: Just what i need, thanx ;)
[05:08] <abattoir> SlimG: you're welcome :)
[05:08] <jende> justaguy2: I still think that you have the modifications yourself
[05:08] <jende> justaguy2: ...have to make...
[05:09] <justaguy2> are you running edgy jende?
[05:09] <BluesKaj> justaguy2, what do you like about edgy vs dapper ?
[05:09] <jende> justaguy2: yep
[05:09] <justaguy2> I like to "tinker", stable versions leave me "bored" at times
[05:10] <BluesKaj> jende , what do you think of edgy /
[05:10] <jende> BluesKaj: I love it!
[05:10] <jende> justaguy2: FACK
[05:10] <justaguy2> I have kubuntu 6.06.1 / stable on another partition
[05:10] <BluesKaj> ok, what are the advantages ?
[05:10] <justaguy2> I love edgy.............!
[05:11] <jende> BluesKaj: quite a few advantages
[05:11] <BluesKaj> well?
[05:11] <jende> BluesKaj: give it a go and you'll se
[05:11] <justaguy2> Have been unable to go as far as getting beryl installed and working, although I have an nvidia card, which should make things alot easier
[05:11] <andrzejsz> one of the advanages is that justaguy2 loves edgy :D
[05:11] <jende> andrzejsz: and me...*ggg*
[05:11] <justaguy2> thanks andrzejsz
[05:11] <andrzejsz> ok. both of them.
[05:12] <andrzejsz> BTW: is Edgy male or female ? :)
[05:12] <jende> andrzejsz: nice one...*ggg*...edgy is a beauty and female
[05:12] <justaguy2> flip edgy, and find out!  ; )
[05:12] <andrzejsz> will try. i promise.
[05:13] <BluesKaj> took me quite a while to get my windows network setup working properly in dapper ...wifey runs her pc in windows and i'm not about to make her learn a new OS , since she's not real computer savy .
[05:13] <justaguy2> jende, have you gotten beryl installed and working?
[05:13] <jende> justaguy2: not as yet
[05:13] <cpk2> BluesKaj: ubuntu is incredibly easy though
[05:14] <pieRReSabatier> hello
[05:14] <justaguy2> I hope things wil;l come together faster when edgy goes "final" re: beryl issues
[05:14] <BluesKaj> edgy easier than dapper?
[05:14] <cpk2> BluesKaj: i think in alot of aspects its easy than windows
[05:14] <pieRReSabatier> I want to download an iso image but Kubuntu don't accept
[05:14] <cpk2> i mean apt-get has to be the easiest way to get apps
[05:14] <jende> BluesKaj: even my dad who is 67 doesn't wanna go back to redmond
[05:14] <BluesKaj> what's beryl?
[05:14] <pieRReSabatier> Can I force Kubuntu to accept?
[05:14] <justaguy2> beryl: fork of compiz
[05:15] <jende> justaguy2: will be back shortly
[05:15] <justaguy2> sure thing
[05:15] <jende> justaguy2: ran out of coffee and smokes, what a hassle
[05:15] <justaguy2> I know what you mean!
[05:15] <justaguy2> I only smoke outside
[05:16] <BluesKaj> jende, I'm 63 :)
[05:16] <pieRReSabatier> I repeat again : I wan't to force Kubuntu to accept an iso image , is it possible?
[05:16] <jende> justaguy2: well I've got a nice old house with several rooms and one is my smokers room in which my boxes are
[05:16] <jende> BluesKaj: so, keep rockin'...
[05:16] <jende> bye for now, folks
[05:16] <justaguy2> hahaha, 2nd hand smoke is not the greatest thing for boxes though
[05:17] <justaguy2> bye jende
[05:17] <justaguy2> pieRR, what r u trying to force, sorry
[05:17] <pieRReSabatier> Who can answer?
[05:17] <hyper> hiya, what must a entry in the hosts file look like?   Must there be perioads at the end of the domain names as it is necessary for bind?  e.g.     xx.xxx.xx.xx   mydomain.com.   ?
[05:17] <andrzejsz> pieRReSabatier: what do you mean by "accept an iso image"?
[05:17] <pieRReSabatier> I want load an iso image but kubuntu refuse
[05:18] <justaguy2> load or burn an iso?
[05:18] <pieRReSabatier> burn
[05:18] <BluesKaj> yup jende , listening to steve miller band as we speak :)
[05:18] <andrzejsz> ok. got k3b?
[05:18] <pieRReSabatier> yes, with K3b
[05:18] <justaguy2> yep K3B is the ticket, right click on iso file
[05:18] <pieRReSabatier> It doesn't work
[05:18] <justaguy2> choose K3B
[05:19] <andrzejsz> but tough guys use cdrecord :D
[05:19] <cpk2> pieRReSabatier: are you sure its an iso?
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> I don't have any iso image Kubuntu refuse them
[05:19] <justaguy2> do you hace a cd in the drive?
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> yes an empty cd
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> it's a probleme?
[05:19] <justaguy2> is it being recognized
[05:19] <soulrider> hi everyone =)
[05:19] <pieRReSabatier> yes
[05:20] <pieRReSabatier> it's recognized
[05:20] <justaguy2> try right clicking on icon on desktop
[05:20] <pieRReSabatier> yes
[05:20] <pieRReSabatier> then?
[05:20] <justaguy2> choice, to burn image?
[05:21] <pieRReSabatier> no I don't have this choise
[05:21] <justaguy2> hold on
[05:21] <pieRReSabatier> open copy whith
[05:21] <pieRReSabatier> sorry I'm limited in english
[05:22] <pieRReSabatier> yes
[05:22] <jason> guys,  core 2 duo 6400 --- what iso do i install to take advantage of it?
[05:22] <LjL> is there any decent Kopete SVN package around? (i'm looking for audio and webcam support in MSN)
[05:22] <pieRReSabatier> copy whith k3b?
[05:22] <justaguy2> with cd in drive, close out K3B if open, then open K3B again
[05:22] <justaguy2> yes, copy with K3B
[05:23] <BluesKaj> !core 2 duo 6400
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about core 2 duo 6400 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <pieRReSabatier> Url mal format
[05:23] <pieRReSabatier> no
[05:24] <pieRReSabatier> Url mal form
[05:24] <pieRReSabatier> url bad formed
[05:24] <justaguy2> did you md5 your image?
[05:24] <cpk2> pieRReSabatier: does file thisismy.iso say its an iso?
[05:24] <pieRReSabatier> I don't know
[05:24] <justaguy2> check properties of image
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> so I don't have this iso image, and when I want it to download, I can't
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> download or burn
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> :s
[05:25] <justaguy2> you have the image on harddrive or not?
[05:25] <pieRReSabatier> no
[05:25] <justaguy2> <--confused now
[05:26] <fildo> lol
[05:26] <fildo> u need to download first
[05:26] <justaguy2> oh, so try another download, different location
[05:26] <fildo> retain on hdd. n user k3b to burn image
[05:26] <pieRReSabatier> There is an option to open an iso image on the net whith k3b
[05:26] <justaguy2> no, you don't want to do that
[05:26] <pieRReSabatier> ok
[05:26] <justaguy2> download 1st, then burn with k3b
[05:26] <BluesKaj> jason, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/tags/index.php/core/
[05:26] <andrzejsz> jason: please check at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support
[05:27] <jason> thx guys
[05:27] <pieRReSabatier> I save the iso image on /home?
[05:27] <justaguy2> k3b will automatically check md5sum, compare to what you have on image
[05:27] <pieRReSabatier> ^
[05:27] <justaguy2> save to /home, sure
[05:27] <fildo> save it anywhere
[05:27] <fildo> !
[05:27] <Clown> sorry, but i dont speak english very well... guys and gays is the same??
[05:27] <justaguy2> (!)  lol
[05:28] <fildo> no
[05:28] <fildo> haha
[05:28] <justaguy2> ?
[05:28] <justaguy2> pieRR .... downloading?
[05:28] <cpk2> Clown: guys means men;males;boys
[05:28] <BluesKaj> jason if you want to be safe , the 32 bit x86 version should work
[05:29] <Clown> because i only say "hi gays" when i enter in the channel and now i think that i say homosexual to all the people when i want say guys
[05:29] <umb> c' qualcuno che parla ITALIANO?
[05:29] <abattoir> !it
[05:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:29] <justaguy2> mmmmm .. not sure where this id going(?)
[05:29] <abattoir> umb: ^^^^
[05:30] <umb> sei molto gentile.....
[05:30] <cpk2> Clown: you would want to say guys
[05:30] <umb> ciao a tutti
[05:30] <Clown> cpk2: ok thanks
[05:30] <andrzejsz> !en
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <andrzejsz> funny...
[05:31] <zippo> hi hello everybody
[05:33] <dhq> i use ktorrent i am on a 256kbps so i should get a minimum speed of 30 but my speed doesnt cross 10
[05:33] <hazard2> how do you install mount 'suid-root' so normal users can run it?
[05:34] <dhq> hazard2: i guess its chroot
[05:34] <dhq> or chown
[05:34] <dhq> !chown
[05:34] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:35] <dhq> !chroot
[05:35] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:39] <cpk2> you know what i just found in my kmenu?
[05:39] <cpk2> KOdometer!
[05:39] <cpk2> =P
[05:39] <Clown> firefox pascua eggs... tipe g" on the url bar
[05:40] <hazard2> Hrm...
[05:40] <Clown> cpk2: right click on kpanel and "add applet to panel" in the list are kodometer
[05:42] <cpk2> Clown: aww its not in my gui =(
[05:42] <soulrider> cpk2: kodo lol, why would anyone wanna measure how much they move their mouse :P
[05:43] <soulrider> i can undertsand keystrokes but distance...
[05:43] <soulrider> unless its some sort of mass project or something :P
[05:43] <cpk2> ohh you can measure keystrokes too?
[05:43] <soulrider> not with kodo
[05:43] <soulrider> but in win i used whatpulse
[05:43] <soulrider> i think you cna gte it for linux too
[05:43] <soulrider> and it measures numbers of clicks
[05:43] <soulrider> there was one for mouse distance too
[05:43] <soulrider> and like whatpulse you could be in teams
[05:44] <soulrider> and there were competitions, and milestones like going to the moon or the sun lol
[05:44] <cpk2> man i really would love one that measured mouseclicks
[05:44] <soulrider> lol
[05:44] <cpk2> just to see how muchplaying warcraft skyrockets it
[05:44] <soulrider> its fun :P
[05:45] <soulrider> lol
[05:45] <soulrider> i wish lineage 2 ran on linux :(
[05:45] <cpk2> oh, i dont play wow
[05:45] <cpk2> i play warcraft 3 =P
[05:46] <jende> justaguy2: I#m back