[00:39]  * ahoneybun runs wily now
[06:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:03] <strayPuppy> Woof
[06:14] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: On the community page the Kubuntu Team page links to www-new.k.o
[06:15] <soee> good morning
[06:58] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: thanks, fixed
[07:27] <lordievader> :)
[08:19] <sitter> doko: can test regressions on ppc64el stop a version from being considered for migration? if so both kate4 and umbrello failed because of resource limits and perhaps should be overridden
[08:20] <sitter> from what I understand currently kde4libs is not considered so kde4pimlibs is not considered so kdepimlibs can not be resolved
[08:23] <sitter> Riddell: baseapps transitioned \o/
[08:29] <sitter> Riddell: unfortunately you did not actually commit the patch file
[08:33] <sitter> Riddell: also you didn't tag the commit
[08:34] <sitter> Riddell: also when you pushed the patch please upload ubuntu4 to resolve a file conflict
[08:46] <sitter> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kalarmcal
[08:46] <sitter> this is not 15.08
[08:50] <yofel> sitter: there was a mail about ppc64el now having regression tests
[08:50]  * sitter demands override
[08:52] <kfunk> hmmmm. are there any known issues with CPU frequency scaling under 15.10? using intel_pstate here; CPU freq is not scaled down
[08:52] <kfunk> thermald is installed
[08:53] <yofel> [09:06:35] <svuorela> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debhelper/debhelper.git/commit/?id=4e3fd5d6e9d5aa94a23a12739bee41a26a17797b
[08:53] <yofel> :O
[08:53] <yofel> \o/
[08:53] <Riddell> sitter: kde-baseapps up!
[08:55] <Riddell> sitter: kalarmcal up!
[08:55] <sitter> argh
[08:55] <sitter> just when I wanted to tell you to wait :P
[08:56] <sitter> kalaramcal now has a symbols dump
[08:57] <Riddell> sitter: shall I upload again?
[08:58] <Riddell> kfunk: I guess we've no idea
[08:58] <sitter> Riddell: nah, will go through CI anyway
[08:58] <sitter> on that note seeing as all our symbol dumps should be gcc5ified I'll renable symbol updates in KCI next week probably
[09:00] <sitter> which will make kdepim fail because upstream didn't sobump when I said they need to sobump \o/
[09:08] <prth> hi Riddell :)
[09:09] <prth> Riddell, could we port Ubiquity to Qt 5 as a Season of KDE 2015 project?
[09:10] <Riddell> prth: certainly :)
[09:10] <Riddell> is that starting?
[09:11] <prth> Riddell, no it isn't announced yet
[09:11] <Riddell> prth: how did your summer of code project go?
[09:12] <prth> gr8, I completed the project & passed :)
[09:13] <bshah> oh SoK... I totally missed that..
[09:14] <bshah> if there are no storms and zombies.. this week it might be announced..
[09:15] <prth> cool bshah
[09:19] <doko> sitter, I think ppc64el fails are now considered. but maybe ask pitti. however resource limits on ppc64el sound strange
[09:23] <soee> Riddell: any news about fixes for this: libstreamanalyzer0 : Depends: libclucene-core1 (>= <IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not installable ?
[09:24] <sitter> soee: sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade
[09:25] <soee> sitter: it shows the same message :)
[09:25] <soee> *error
[09:25] <sitter> it should show more
[09:26] <soee> sitter: but when trying to install libstreamanalyzer0v5 -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12244195/
[09:27] <sitter> sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install
[09:29] <soee> sitter: same one message
[09:29] <sitter> what the
[09:29] <sitter> sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install -f
[09:29] <soee> i think Riddell mentioned it was something with something with kde4libs not updating
[09:29] <sitter> possibly
[09:29] <sitter> that one is also being held hostage
[09:29] <sitter> for like 2 weeks
[09:31] <soee> sitter: there we go http://paste.ubuntu.com/12244210/
[09:34] <doko> sitter, Riddell : yesterday I binNMUd smokekde and it picked up a new dependency on kde4libs. so something maybe needs rebuilds?
[09:38] <sitter> soee: yeah it appears that your entire kde4 stack has a dep problem because parts of kde4 packages are being held in proposed and part of your system had ppa packages that were ahead of what was in wily
[09:39] <Riddell> new networkmanager-qt going up to pick up network-manager 1.0.4 on arm64, then we can rebuild plasma-workspace
[09:40] <sitter> doko: I don't know what that means I am afraid
[09:41] <soee> sitter: is it fixable somehow ?
[09:42] <yofel> I think the only thing that uses smoke are the perl and ruby bindings, so maybe those..
[09:42] <sitter> soee: yes by waiting
[09:42] <sitter> ubuntu3  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkio5, libkparts4 (>= 4:4.14.2), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libsmokebase3v5 (>= 4:4.14.3), libsmokekio3 (= 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu4), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)
[09:42] <soee> sitter: sounds reasonable, thank you for your help.
[09:42] <sitter> eh
[09:42] <sitter> ubuntu3 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkio5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkparts4 (>= 4:4.14.2), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libsmokebase3v5 (>= 4:4.11.1), libsmokekio3 (= 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu3), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)
[09:42] <sitter> ubuntu4  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.14.2), libkio5, libkparts4 (>= 4:4.14.2), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libsmokebase3v5 (>= 4:4.14.3), libsmokekio3 (= 4:4.14.2-0ubuntu4), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)
[09:43] <sitter> note the libkio5
[09:44] <sitter> that's a bit odd I guess
[09:44] <sitter> doko: generally I would expect smokekde to tighlty link with the kde4libs though seeing as smoke is wrapping them for perl and ruby bindings
[10:05] <Riddell> soee: kde4libs just got accepted into wily
[10:10] <soee> Riddell: how long will it take to have it in archive ?
[10:13] <Riddell> soee: depends when the index gets regenerated, once an hour maybe, then if you use a mirror you'll need to wait for that to sync
[10:17] <clivejo> Riddell: any progress on the PIM transition?
[10:27] <Riddell> clivejo: some test failure in kdepim, I guess I'll just force that in
[10:27] <sitter> Riddell: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kde-baseapps
[10:27] <sitter> baseapps not happy to install
[10:28] <Riddell> "ERROR: erroneous package: Test dependencies are unsatisfiable." uh huh
[10:28] <Riddell> you know I can't think of a single issue this testing stuff has even caught
[10:30] <sitter> not being able to install the test deps seems like an issue alright :P
[10:49] <Riddell> yay gwenview got accepted
[10:50]  * Riddell uploads kdepim with testsuite running kdeinit5 not 4
[10:54] <Riddell> oh got goodness sakes, acc succenly failing on networkmanager-qt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:54] <Riddell> even though it was a no change rebuild
[11:01] <ScottK> Riddell: I got your SRU in yesterday.
[11:02] <Riddell> ScottK: lovely thanks
[11:03] <Riddell> anyone tried the kubuntu mobile image lately? I'm just getting EOFs :(
[11:06] <sitter> Riddell: did you get to the bottom of baseapps?
[11:08] <sitter> oh actually my breaks was crap
[12:11] <Riddell> sitter: maybe, I fixed the debian/tests/testsuit file
[12:11] <Riddell> oh no that was kdepim
[12:13] <Riddell> baseapps is moaning about test dependencies which I've no idea what the issue is
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:13] <sitter> Riddell: dolphin4 was not installable because I screwed up the version in the breaks
[12:14] <sitter> Riddell: gwenview tests should now pass in autopkgtest
[12:14] <sitter>   Uploading gwenview_15.08.0-0ubuntu2.dsc: g1done.
[12:28] <Riddell> sitter: I'll retry kde-baseapps on armhf, it failed but looks like a chroot error
[12:29] <sitter> k
[12:39] <Riddell> oh there's a new network-manager compile, I wonder if that's what is causing the regression in acc in networkmanager-qt
[12:39] <Riddell> cyphermox: got any opinion on that? ^^
[12:40] <cyphermox> regression in acc?
[12:44] <Riddell> cyphermox: abi-compliance-checker not happy suddenly after a no change rebuild<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:44] <soee> Riddell: are those kde4libs already in Wily ?
[12:45] <cyphermox> well, maybe
[12:45] <Riddell> soee: yep https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs 4:4.14.11-0ubuntu2
[12:45] <cyphermox> Riddell: was there ever another build of network-manager-qt against NM 1.0.0?
[12:46] <Riddell> cyphermox: yes 5.13.0-0ubuntu2 was
[12:46] <Riddell> and that passed tests fine
[12:46] <cyphermox> hmm
[12:46] <cyphermox> that sounds unlikely then, but I don't know
[12:47] <sitter> Riddell: ubuntu2 did not pass either
[12:47] <cyphermox> the change in NM was just trying to fix up tests
[12:47] <Riddell> sitter: oh ok
[12:47] <sitter> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/networkmanager-qt/wily/amd64/
[12:47] <Riddell> maybe the acc file needs refaffed
[12:48] <sitter> that would still constitute a upstream SIC though TBH
[12:48] <sitter> SC shouldn't change by switching out the underlying libnm me thinks
[12:48] <soee> Riddell: apt-get -f install wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and others http://paste.ubuntu.com/12245161/
[12:50] <sitter> soee: always run with the debug option
[12:51] <Riddell> soee: kdepim issues I guess
[12:51] <sitter> most of them are fine really
[12:51] <sitter> all the libs are dead
[12:52] <sitter> pretty much everything that isn't a lib should not be uninstalled though
[12:52] <sitter> and for skanlite for example I don't see how it might have kdepim in the dep tree
[12:53]  * Riddell fixes rocs for broken tests
[12:55] <soee> Riddell, sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12245211/
[13:01] <Riddell> lordievader: bug 1488843 needs testing if you want to be useful (and have working upgrades :)
[13:02] <lordievader> I'm not at home, so I cannot test, sorry.
[13:41] <sitter> Riddell: are we planning any more kdepim uploads this week?
[13:42] <sitter> because I now have symbols dumps for all libs
[13:42] <sitter> but I am bit scared that for reasons beyond me this will break building :P
[13:42]  * sitter lost all trust in kdepim libs pretty much
[13:44] <sitter> ah well
[13:44] <sitter> if they cause trouble simply revert I guess
[13:45] <sitter> soee: ah looks like qca transition is the culprit of all removals and that in turn is blocked by kdepim
[13:45] <sitter> so yeah, more waiting
[13:46] <Riddell> sitter: not that I know of
[13:48] <sitter> Riddell: assuming your kdepim test fix works I think all our packages should now be valid canidates for transition
[13:48] <sitter> I just hope the kdepim-runtime stuff isn't gonna block :/
[13:51]  * Riddell cheers as plasma-desktop khotkeys and powerdevil goes in wily
[13:54] <sitter> Riddell: unless I screwed up somehow all new pimlibs now have symbols staged in git but not uploaded (landing with .1)
[13:55] <sitter> on the plus side mid-term I actually already have QA tech to detect missing symbols btw. just not active right now :P
[13:56] <Riddell> nice
[13:58] <soee> sitter: ok, thanks for investigation
[14:07] <Riddell> anyone know about abi-compliance-checker errors? cos networkmanager-qt logs show lots http://embra.edinburghlinux.co.uk/~jr/tmp/log.txt
[14:12] <Riddell> hmm, cyphermox, doko know anything about  abi-compliance-checker errors? ^
[14:15] <cyphermox> Riddell: sounds to me like there probably is an issue is how it's trying to do checks. some of these redefinitions might be because of changes in libnm-util/libnm-glib and libnm itself, and confusing for acc
[14:15] <Riddell> clivejo: new calligra out if you're up for a challenge :)
[14:15] <cyphermox> Riddell: but I wouldn't know more than that, I never really used it
[14:16] <clivejo> Riddell: where do you find out about new releases?
[14:17] <Riddell> clivejo: subscribe yourself to kde release-team mailing list
[14:22] <sitter> Riddell, cyphermox: picks up wrong nm-client.h
[14:22] <sitter> probably same for nm-access-point.h
[14:23] <sitter> In file included from /usr/include/libnm-glib/nm-client.h:31:0,
[14:23] <sitter>                  from /usr/include/libnm/NetworkManager.h:28,
[14:23] <sitter> I think that should be including libnm/nm-client.h
[14:23] <sitter> libnm-glib-dev:amd64: /usr/include/libnm-glib/nm-client.h
[14:23] <sitter> libnm-dev:amd64: /usr/include/libnm/nm-client.h
[14:24] <sitter> cyphermox: do we even still need libnm-glib-dev or is that fully replaced by libnm-dev?
[14:24] <cyphermox> sitter: not sure. I think you'll still need it
[14:25] <cyphermox> for this tbh I would ask upstream :/
[14:25] <sitter> Riddell: ^ you'll want to socialize a bit :P
[14:25] <sitter> #include <nm-client.h>
[14:26] <sitter> why the NetworkManager.h doesn't use "" is beyond me
[14:27] <sitter>                libnm-dev | hello,
[14:27] <sitter>                libnm-glib-dev (>= <IP_ADDRESS>),
[14:27] <sitter>                libnm-util-dev (>= <IP_ADDRESS>),
[14:27] <sitter> right
[14:27] <sitter> so
[14:27] <sitter> I am reasonable certain that shadeslayer is wasting Riddell's time by having applied a non-fix I said to avoid
[14:28] <sitter> debian only bdeps libnm and libnm-util, glib so I am lead to assume that libnm-glib-dev is no longer necessary
[14:28] <sitter> Riddell: ditch glib and it should work
[14:28] <sitter> and don't forget to update the -dev Depends to libnm-dev
[14:29] <Riddell> mm thanks
[14:29] <sitter> Riddell: in fact you can simply merge master
[14:29] <sitter> seems to me it will conflict there anyway
[14:30] <sitter> by simply I of course mean you need to do a merge :P
[14:37] <shadeslayer> what what
[14:40] <clivejo> I cant find a new version of calligra, just 2.9.6 - http://download.kde.org/stable/calligra-2.9.6/
[14:40] <Riddell> clivejo: oh you might need special powers
[14:42] <clivejo> Invisibility would a cool power
[14:42] <Riddell> clivejo: I can't help there, but I can give you  scp ftpubuntu@depot.kde.org:stable/calligra-2.9.7/* .
[14:47] <clivejo> anyone know why I have two volume controls now?
[14:50] <Riddell> clivejo: plasma-pa got added, kmix is still around I guess
[14:50] <Riddell> although plasma-pa ought to have some upgrade magic to remove kmix autostart
[14:51] <Riddell> speaking of kmix, it won't compile, some problem in automoc I can't work out :(  kmix itself hasn't changed
[14:51] <kfunk> Riddell: +1 for killing kmix
[14:51] <clivejo> Im getting lots of emails about kmix failing to build
[14:51] <kfunk> had to purge it as well /o\
[14:51] <Riddell> kfunk: why don't you like it?
[14:51] <kfunk> Riddell: b/c there's plasma-pa!
[14:51] <Riddell> ah :)
[14:54] <doko> Riddell, no, didn'T use acc yet
[14:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what broke?
[14:54] <shadeslayer> why am I being blamed
[14:59] <yofel> shadeslayer: you are being accused of applying wrong workarounds to networkmanagerQt
[14:59] <shadeslayer> why
[14:59] <shadeslayer> elaborate
[14:59] <shadeslayer> elaborateeee!
[14:59] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:59]  * yofel just imagines that in a dalek voice
[15:00] <shadeslayer> ^^
[15:04] <Riddell> clivejo: did you get calligra?
[15:07] <clivejo> think so
[15:10] <Riddell> networkmanager-qt uploaded, maybe that'll fix the acc regression
[15:10] <Riddell> I have no idea what that acc test does, there's nothing for it to test against
[15:14] <clivejo> Riddell: Im not going to look at this today, Im too angry
[15:15] <Riddell> clivejo: don't worry no rush, what's causing the anger?
[15:16] <clivejo> Three
[15:16] <clivejo> they wont let me use the Three in Touch application because Im connecting from a "foreign" network
[15:17] <Riddell> oh mobile phone companies will make one angry
[15:18] <Riddell> I just switched to thepeoplesoperator.com because they have jimmy wales running it (and 4GB of data for £10 a month is better than anyone else), but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I fall out of love with them
[15:18] <clivejo> aye, yet their tag line is When stuff siucks #makeitright
[15:19] <clivejo> I was paying for 10Gb of data on O2, but their network is so pathetic in this area I could only connect at 2G speeds
[15:24] <doko> Riddell, do you think kde will migrate today?
[15:29] <Riddell> doko: seems like regressions in kdepim being installable on arm and ppc64 are the blockers, I've no idea how to investigate those
[15:29] <doko> Riddell, armhf or arm64?
[15:30] <Riddell> doko: armhf
[15:30] <Riddell> something uninstallable<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:55] <doko> Riddell, hmm, can't see any obvious
[15:55] <doko> all b-d's install
[15:59] <To24> Hi!
[16:00] <To24> kubuntu.com is not working
[16:03] <Riddell> To24: website is at kubuntu.org
[16:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how do I install ruby foo? "cannot load such file -- jenkins_api_client"
[16:04] <shadeslayer> bundle install
[16:04] <shadeslayer> if you're using pangea-tooling
[16:06] <To24> Thanks, Riddell, this is a "fast bug report" :-), previously, kubuntu.com redirected to kubuntu.org
[16:06] <To24> But nowadays, an ugly Apache page is shown.
[16:06] <To24> Kubuntu is a great project! THANKS!!!!
[16:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: otherwise, it's gem install foo
[16:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nifty
[16:12] <Riddell> thanks To24 :)
[16:12] <To24> I have a lot to thank you :-)
[18:41] <doko> Riddell, kdebase-apps still b-d's on libbaloowidgets-dev, however that one isn't built anymore. and libkf5baloowidgets-dev isn't recognized
[18:42] <Riddell> doko: ok I'll remove b-d then
[18:43] <doko> Riddell, builds without it
[19:51] <clivejo> soee: o/
[19:56] <Darkwing> Huh...
[19:56] <Darkwing> Anyway, installing Beta1 this morning
[19:56] <Darkwing> ubu-timezone failed out.
[19:57] <Riddell> move to a better timezone?
[19:57] <Darkwing> LOL
[19:57] <Darkwing> so, no option to set TZ in ubiquity
[19:57] <soee> hey ...
[19:58] <soee> i have this second time:
[20:01] <soee> by some reason (maybe running some command with kdesudo - kdesudo software-properties-kde) in my home folder file .Xauthority was owned by root .. this leads to unable start sddm/login etc. I have changed owner/group to my user but still was the same problem with login until i removed this file and it was regenerated and now system works again.
[20:01] <soee> any idea what can trigger this .Xauthority owner change to root ?
[20:02] <soee> Riddell: ^
[20:02] <Riddell> nope
[20:07] <valorie> I see people all the time talking about running systemsettings as root
[20:07] <valorie> crazy talk
[20:08] <soee> i never run then as root, just software-properties-kde last day i think
[20:08] <soee> *them
[20:09] <keithzg> I've had to run systemsettings as root before, but that's in very strange circumstances and not for quite some time now.
[20:10] <soee> well the good news is that after fixing this UFO, Wily works perfect again :-)
[20:11] <keithzg> soee: you sure you haven't run some other GUI app with plain 'ol sudo at some point recently? That's traditionally been the primary way folks end up with a root-owned .Xauthority in their home directory.
[20:11] <soee> just this bug when plasma-pa icon is not rendered in systray
[20:11] <soee> keithzg: could be but i don't remember it :/
[20:11] <keithzg> soee: fair enough
[20:12] <ahoneybun> I see we have a sound bar that is Breeze themed
[20:12] <ahoneybun> but I still have the oxygen one
[20:12] <soee> ahoneybun: in systray ?
[20:12] <ahoneybun> that too
[20:12] <ahoneybun> I have double
[20:13] <clivejo> I have double too!
[20:13] <ahoneybun> but I was talking about when you press the volume keys
[20:13] <soee> well you can remove kmix, but with plasma-pa you can't control separate channels
[20:13] <soee> to do it you have to go System Settings :)
[20:13] <ahoneybun> kmix handles chrome and firefox from the system
[20:13] <ahoneybun> which is cool
[20:14] <soee> ahoneybun: new section in Multimedia does the same
[20:14] <ahoneybun> mm
[20:15] <ahoneybun> tbh the onlything I've looked at in 5.4 is the new launcher :)
[20:15] <ahoneybun> I liked the homerun one so I was happy to see a new fullscreen one
[20:15] <clivejo> full screen one?
[20:15] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:15] <soee> :) There is new section in Multimedia, Gamma section in Screen and Display
[20:15] <ahoneybun> sweet
[20:15] <clivejo> I like it
[20:16] <clivejo> dont like my systray icons getting tiny
[20:16] <soee> there was widget in KDE4 - quicklauncher or something
[20:16] <ahoneybun> I see a sddm theme update soee
[20:16] <soee> where you had option to configure rows etc = icon sizes
[20:17]  * ahoneybun needs a SSD for his gaming machine now lol
[20:17] <soee> ahoneybun: PS or laptop ?
[20:17] <ahoneybun> mmm
[20:17] <ahoneybun> ?
[20:17] <soee> PC
[20:17] <ahoneybun> Desktop
[20:17] <valorie> it never stops, ahoneybun -- as soon as you get some new equipment, you need more new gear
[20:17] <ahoneybun> running wily on my laptop and gaming desktop
[20:17] <ahoneybun> valorie: well this desktop is 4 years old
[20:17] <ahoneybun> the laptop is 2
[20:17] <soee> have sdd here in laptop since 2 months
[20:18] <soee> much faster but fan much louder :/
[20:18] <ahoneybun> my first and only custom build runs kubuntu wily
[20:18] <ahoneybun> to keep up with the new drive soee lol
[20:18] <soee> ahoneybun: hows the game you mentioned yesterday ?
[20:18] <ahoneybun> this machine is a AMD build valorie
[20:18] <ahoneybun> soee: it is fun
[20:19] <ahoneybun> weird ending though
[20:19] <ahoneybun> Lord of the Rings themed
[20:19] <soee> finished already ? :O
[20:19] <ahoneybun> I had played a lot on windows
[20:19] <ahoneybun> then I moved to Kubuntu fulltime
[20:19] <ahoneybun> just never finished it till a linux port was out
[20:20] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.2.2 on Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) powered by Linux 3.19.0-26-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz at 3099-3136/3300 MHz, RAM: 7546/7883 MB, Storage: 621/797 GB, 289 procs, 38.89h up
[20:20] <valorie> this is my son's "old" gaming laptop
[20:20] <ahoneybun> funny to see streaming being an option in linux
[20:21] <ahoneybun> mmm
[20:21] <valorie> dunno how long I'll be able to hold off upgrading to wily
[20:21] <valorie> so tempted
[20:21] <ahoneybun> cpu is from Q2 2012
[20:21] <valorie> but while it's damp, I should go to the nursery and get some more plants
[20:22] <ahoneybun> still holds well of course
[20:22] <clivejo> ahoneybun: you should package calligra2.9.7 for vivid
[20:22] <clivejo> but your new SSD and CPU to work
[20:22] <ahoneybun> valorie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit#K10_architecture_.282011.29:_Llano
[20:22] <ahoneybun> the first APU from AMD
[20:22] <ahoneybun> gaming in a CPU
[20:22] <ahoneybun> lol
[20:23]  * ahoneybun laughs at clivejo
[20:23] <ahoneybun> that is a mess I might do
[20:23] <ahoneybun> who knows
[20:23] <clivejo> 3 hours later and Im only at 63%
[20:24] <ahoneybun> calligra?
[20:24] <clivejo> yup
[20:24] <ahoneybun> these codenames from AMD for the APU are so cool
[20:24] <ahoneybun> clivejo: send me the source files and I'll try thursday maybe
[20:25] <clivejo> these personalised adverts really freak me out!
[20:25] <ahoneybun> ?
[20:25] <clivejo> my name was on a suitecase for virgin holidays :/
[20:26] <ahoneybun> I might change my build from Intel to AMD
[20:26] <ahoneybun> oh it is lol
[20:26] <ahoneybun> the FX
[20:30] <valorie> off to the nursery
[20:34] <Darkwing> Does harold lurk here anymore?
[21:16] <ahoneybun> Darkwing: he comes from time to time
[21:16] <ahoneybun> he was at akademy
[21:29]  * clivejo falls asleep
[22:39] <valorie> Darkwing: sitter logs out, rather than lurking
[22:39] <valorie> he's here during his work day
[22:44]  * ahoneybun thinks valorie should join in #wikitolearn
[22:45] <valorie> done
[23:06] <ahoneybun> valorie: I have it here: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[23:06] <ahoneybun> as well
[23:06] <ahoneybun> with sphinx so really we could just throw it on docs.kubuntu.org or something and throw a link on the site (done)
[23:06] <valorie> moar backups are always good!
[23:07] <valorie> cool
[23:07] <ahoneybun> funny story
[23:07] <ahoneybun> my that server is hosted by my friend who LOVES GNOME 3
[23:07] <ahoneybun> XD
[23:07] <ahoneybun> not so much love for KDE
[23:08] <ahoneybun> valorie: if I remember right i have access to docs.kubuntu.org so I could move it as soon as today really
[23:08] <ahoneybun> I just got lazy tbh with the theming it
[23:11] <ahoneybun> valorie: let me reboot and see if SDDM is going to beat me like soee lol
[23:12] <valorie> my rebooting was entirely unexciting
[23:15] <ahoneybun> and I'm back
[23:15] <ahoneybun> but me and soee have NVIDIA hardware
[23:15] <ahoneybun> so very exciting
[23:40] <thelionroars> !testers
[23:40] <thelionroars> sorry about the highlight
[23:40] <thelionroars> but if you see this, feel free to add me to testers
[23:40] <thelionroars> thansk
[23:40] <thelionroars> *thanks
[23:44]  * ahoneybun has no idea why he is not on there
[23:46] <valorie> thelionroars: what are you interested in testing?
[23:46] <thelionroars> upcoming releases of kubuntu
[23:46] <valorie> right now it is possible to test the upgrade to Wily beta
[23:47] <valorie> or a guess a fresh install as well
[23:48] <valorie> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
[23:48] <valorie> get to kubuntu, check out an ISO, and do the tests
[23:49] <valorie> report on the qa site, and file bugs if necessary
[23:49] <thelionroars> I'm downloading the beta1 iso now
[23:49] <thelionroars> I'd need a bit of prep work to be able to test the upgrade to the beta
[23:50] <valorie> I've tested the upgrade from alpha to beta, but not 15.04 to beta
[23:50] <valorie> no backup done on this box yet
[23:50] <valorie> and I'll never do an upgrade without a fresh backup
[23:51] <thelionroars> yes I really need to clean out all the cruft and make sure everything is fully backed up, I do it completely ad-hoc atm
[23:53] <ahoneybun> I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10
[23:53] <ahoneybun> worked fine but that networkmanger issue
[23:54] <valorie> well, I'm in better shape than I was before my last bad upgrade
[23:54] <valorie> but it's too painful to contemplate even the possibility
[23:58]  * ahoneybun wanted Plasma 5.4 badly enough