[00:00] <Rayston> just about to install Jaunty because alot of people with similiar problems mention that jaunty did not have these issues
[00:00] <capron> mhaedo, hope you find it , I think compile is the right way too go.  But have only done it for comipz plugins ,  Right now I will try compile the kernel
[00:00] <MeerCat> Blindsite1: did you add a repo for wine and didn't add the key to that repo?
[00:00] <Asmob> can somone give me advice why i need use seperate partition for /home?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Asmob: can be rather usefl if you want to re install Ubuntu or distro hop
[00:00] <braden_> mobi-sheep ok also virtualbox 3.0 won't install i keep getting kernall module compile failed
[00:00] <Arsin> MeerCat: Worked, thanks. ke1ha_: Working thanks, but I tried entering a passkey that I just created and I got invalid pass
[00:00] <MeerCat> Asmob: it gives flexibilty to have partitions on seperate disks
[00:01] <MeerCat> as sebsebseb mentioned is a reaason
[00:01] <Blindsite1> repo?
[00:01] <ke1ha_> You have to go to Standford, and apply for a passkey, it will be emailed to you.
[00:01] <Asmob> sebsebseb, distro hop?
[00:01] <MeerCat> repository
[00:01] <sebsebseb> MeerCat: seperate disks?  you just mean partitions on same hard disk?
[00:01] <Blindsite1> ah yeah
[00:01] <Blindsite1> added that in the other sorces area
[00:01] <Blindsite1> ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[00:02] <Blindsite1> im getting 2 wines show up on the list, the beta and the stable version
[00:02] <Asmob> MeerCat, sebsebseb, so do i need make /home on seperate partition?
[00:02] <cyberjunk502> guys  anyone know is there some sort of tracker in nokia phones that are removed when the phone arrives in shops
[00:02] <Blindsite1> i want the install the stable ver bu it wont le me
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Asmob: distro hop as in,  get rid of Ubuntu and try some thing else,  and  then real proper distro hoppers will go through loads of distros like that,  not spending that long on each.  I think it's better to  run a distro that is good enough Ubuntu for example as the host operating system, and then virtual machine other distros, if people want to use others as well.  Or have another distro on another computer even.
[00:03] <MeerCat> home can be mounted on a seperate disk or everthing can be partitoned on one disk,, if possible its cool to have partitions on seperate disks,, one reason is in cause of a disk failure.. say your root disk failed however home didn't exist there,, then you can simply reinstall the OS on  the root disk and mount /home back
[00:03] <Arsin> ke1ha_: Where would I go about doing that? I've been searching for a place to register or something. The only one I can see is for a team
[00:03] <MeerCat> Asmob: its not a requirement
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Asmob: by default Ubuntu puts /home  in  /
[00:03] <ke1ha_> Arsin: Also, it may have installed and downloaded the apps, but you still need to start it with ./foldingathome/folding start
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Asmob: and gives you swap space as well
[00:04] <benico> hi
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Asmob: creating a seperate home partition  is easier to do before Ubuntu get's installed, but it can be done after woulds
[00:04] <Asmob> sebsebseb, now i instaled / 20gb /home about 290 and /swap 2gb is that good?
[00:04] <ke1ha_> F@H Passkey Info: http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/FAQ-passkey.html
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Asmob: ok you already instaled Ububuntu and set up like that?
[00:05] <Asmob> sebsebseb, yes but i dont now is it good
[00:05] <cyberjunk502> anyone know a irc server or a channel where i can ask questions about nokia mobile phones
[00:05] <peepsalot> i have a motherboard with some sort of integrated graphics, i can't find details on what the chipset is called.  how do i know what graphics drivers to use?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Asmob: SWAP depends on how much RAM you have, and 20GB is more than you need for / when you got big seperate /home
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Asmob: with big seperate /home I would make /  10 to 12GB or a little bit bigger then that
[00:05] <MeerCat> yea i would put all that home if anywhere
[00:05] <ke1ha_> Arsin: once you started the client, do the install service with: sudo ./installservice and the server install script with do the checkconfig for you.
[00:06] <mint_> I need some help. I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on a portable flash drive (8GB) but when I plug in my secondary monitor, and click resolution button, the whole thing freezes on me. And when I am able to get the changes on the resolution area, it does the samething
[00:06] <MeerCat> thats where the files you acquire would end up any way so give it more space..
[00:06] <duffydack> bear in mind, most stuff you install goes in /usr so you for me, I need quite a lot for /  for games and such that install from repo or debs
[00:06] <Asmob> sebsebseb, sory / is 15gb and my ram is 2gb
[00:06] <MeerCat> yea duffydack thats correct as well
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Asmob: SWAP should be double your RAM
[00:07] <duffydack> it would be nice to have the choice
[00:07] <MeerCat> swap should be 1 - 1.5 times ram actually
[00:07] <Asmob> sebsebseb, / is alredy 21% taken..
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Asmob:  also SWAP isn't really needed unless your going to hibernate the computer
[00:07] <rww> ubottu: ot | cyberjunk502
[00:07] <MeerCat> i use LVM i can always add a disk and increase home or usr
[00:07] <peepsalot> i have some kind of integrated intel graphics on my motherboard.  does someone know what graphics drivers i need to install?
[00:08] <cyberjunk502> ubottu: ot| rww
[00:08] <Asmob> sebsebseb, somone sad that on new system i can do that on 2gb swap.. if i have 2gb ram
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Asmob: I think you should still really have 4GB RAM
[00:08] <cyberjunk502> thanks
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Asmob: I mean SWAP
[00:08] <mint_> Anyone in here with dual monitors?
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  i use dual monitors with nvidia cards all the time
[00:09] <Asmob> sebsebseb, but pc dont use it at all.. maybe just in hibernate
[00:09] <ZykoticK9> mint_, what's your question (if you aren't using Nvidia i'm no help)
[00:09] <MeerCat> i use duals at work.. i use nvidia as well
[00:09] <sebsebseb> !swap  | Asmob
[00:09] <kayve> is it a bad idea to install gstreamer when I already have flash installed?
[00:09] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Well I have an intel integrated chipset graphics card, and when I try to change the resolution and disable the mirror settings for whatever reason is set by default, my linux freezes
[00:10] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Is there a manual way to set my computer to use dual monitors, so when I reboot the settings will take effect?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  intel dual monitor works on my netbook.. thats all ive used intel with.  The intel drivers are very much a work in progress in ways. I would say check the intel wiki/forums on the ubuntu sites
[00:11] <Arsin> ke1ha_: installservice is not a command
[00:11] <seanbrystone> Hi whats the terminal command to eject cd/dvd? i cant get it open
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> seanbrystone, "eject"
[00:11] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Well thats the weird thing, I can boot into linux with my secondary monitor already plugged in but it just shows a mirror of my laptop screen, is there a way I can manually go in and set the resolution of both monitors and reboot and that way when I boot up, it works?
[00:11] <ke1ha_> you need to be in the ./foldingathome directory then run sudo ./installservice
[00:12] <seanbrystone> ZykoticK9, thanks :)
[00:12] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Because the GUI simply freezes when I click the apply button
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  I plug mine in.. boot up. use teh resoultion tool. and it works for me. I can set 2 monitors up that way
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  sounds like some intel/xrandr/driver bug to me
[00:12] <MeerCat> me as well
[00:13] <Davedan> how can I use fdserv to use port 80 as non root?
[00:13] <OerHeks> seanbrystone to close, use eject -t :-D
[00:13] <mint_> Dr_Willis: what you mean a bug? Would this happen if I am booted on a flash drive? Does that have anything 2 do with it, cause if so then when I had linux installed before on a dual boot, it often did the same thing I am describing
[00:13] <Ganang> anyone have problem running asf formats on linux?
[00:13] <seanbrystone> ok OerHeks ty
[00:13] <ke1ha_> ArsinL here's the output from HFM.net that http://hpcmon.com/~fahuser/Myfolding/index.html  I wrote a big how too at OcUK forums to use this facility.
[00:13] <Ganang> as video streams?
[00:13] <Raydiation> hi im having problems with port forwarding and my router: it seems that although i forward port 80 to my pc, my router gets accessed; for instance if i type in my ip adress i see the router's login
[00:13] <MeerCat> ports below 1024 need to be started by root,, i believe if the program used setuid its possible Davedan ..
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  the extent of my using intel is on muy netbook . and it works there.  The Intel Drivers for some chipsets are not as good as they should be.
[00:13] <Asmob> sebsebseb, hmm.. ok and than if i want fast change distr i can just reinstall and all my /home will stay... but how about programs..?
[00:14] <kayve> yes
[00:14] <capron> Ganang,  yes i had too look in the afs to find the right stream
[00:14] <Blindsite1> ok... i've double checked the source.  I've even added the authentication key even though its supposed to be supurfluous for 9.10
[00:14] <Davedan> MeerCat: setuid?
[00:15] <Blindsite1> and my system STILL won't let me download wine
[00:15] <jiohdi> I just booted to ubuntu from win7... not the nvidia seems messed up, giving me 860x640 or some such and no options for more... help
[00:15] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Would there be a manual way of setting the resolution through a text edit or something and then save changes and then boot and see if that fixes it? the GUI just freezes when I try applying the settings which is very very weird
[00:15] <Ganang> capron: can you give a hint how u solved your problem?
[00:15] <jiohdi> I just booted to ubuntu from win7... no*w the nvidia seems messed up, giving me 860x640 or some such and no options for more... help
[00:15] <AlanF> anyone got a good online feed of the superbowl? I don't get CBS here and I tried googling but keep landing in spam holes. Thanks for any links
[00:15] <MeerCat> Davedan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[00:15] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Now when I don't have the 2nd monitor plugged in and try changing settings, nothing freezes which is weird 2
[00:15] <MeerCat> Blindsite1: what happends now?
[00:16] <Blindsite1> *sigh* its too busy in here to get anything done
[00:16] <MeerCat> =(
[00:16] <Blindsite1> if anyone is willing to help me let me know
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Asmob: well in the other distro you would have to get it to use home properly etc.   If you re install Ubuntu or put another distro on,  you would remove / and make a new one,  and then re install programs.
[00:16] <MeerCat> MeerCat| Blindsite1: what happends now?
[00:16] <darthanubis> Blindsite1: use the forums
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Asmob: Re installing programs isn't  exactly an issue for Ubuntu and most other popular distros,  because of repos where  they can be easilly installed from.
[00:17] <mint_> Dr_Willis: What about manually configuring the Xorg file?
[00:18] <Asmob> sebsebseb, how i can get it to use home? and if i reinstall programs does settings stay?
[00:18] <capron> Ganang, I am not that sure,  I think I only saved the asf as a link then open it in notpad sae that it then  then it pointed to a mpeg that i cud save using wget
[00:18] <Arsin> ke1ha_:I can't seem to get that installservice to run hm... I'm in ./foldingathome right now
[00:18] <kmel> Hi, how can i get a module to load on boot?
[00:18] <Ganang> capron: i'll give a try !thanks!
[00:18] <Rayston> sorry, got disconnected, can anyone here help me with this resolution problem? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+question/100177
[00:19] <Xcell> man
[00:19] <sebsebseb> Asmob: If you re install  Ubuntu by removing/formatting /  and doing a new  / with Ubuntu,  then it should pick up /home no problem,  as long as your also using the same username as before.   It's if you switch distro you would have to get it using /home properly, probably.
[00:20] <atlas__> ist
[00:20] <Xcell> ubuntu code looks like a dc tourist map.. it dont know wht to do 1/2 the time.
[00:20] <MeerCat> ubuntu code?
[00:20] <darthanubis> lol
[00:20] <darthanubis> code
[00:20] <Xcell> u know wht i mean
[00:20] <darthanubis> what "ubuntu code"?
[00:20] <darthanubis> no we don't
[00:21] <MeerCat> bash command line?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Asmob: Once the old /home is being used,  it should pick up  .mozilla and most other program user data no problem
[00:21] <MeerCat> im lost =)
[00:21] <Xcell> get a job then
[00:21] <darthanubis> lol
[00:21] <MeerCat> source code?
[00:21] <kayve> is gstreamer a flash?
[00:21] <Asmob> sebsebseb, is out there... some page what u suggest i can read to find out more about install another distro?
[00:21] <darthanubis> a job?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Asmob: How long have you used Ubuntu for?
[00:21] <jolaren23> What's wrong with this command?? sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdb1
[00:21] <darthanubis> try again this time complete sentences in English please?
[00:21]  * Xcell rolz a superbowl fatty
[00:21] <darthanubis> ohhhh, your high
[00:21] <Xcell> no
[00:22] <darthanubis> gotcha
[00:22] <Xcell> c
[00:22] <MeerCat> sdb1 is a partition...
[00:22] <Xcell>  u still talk
[00:22] <Asmob> sebsebseb, like about 4days
[00:22] <Davedan> MeerCat: when trying to use setuid it tells me that I need to install it
[00:22] <Xcell> i waz talkin food
[00:22] <ke1ha_> Arsin : make sure you typing it correctly, it's: sudo ./installService   .. note the cap "S"
[00:22] <Asmob> sebsebseb, but i have some expirience also before..
[00:22] <MeerCat> and it it exists it should work
[00:23] <Tm_T> Xcell: please stick in channel topic
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Asmob: ok I thought you are new,  right well in that case, I suggest that you  get used to Ubuntu first,  and then when your a bit more experienced you can virtual machine other distros or pshyically install them, if you would like to
[00:23] <Xcell> lol, i will,
[00:23] <Asmob> virtual bos sebsebseb ?
[00:23] <MeerCat> Davedan: possibly you need to install it?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Asmob: bos???
[00:23] <Asmob> sebsebseb, box..
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Asmob: yes Virtualbox
[00:24] <Xcell> anything concerning the ubuntu sys is on topic right   ?
[00:24] <MeerCat> Davedan: i think the actual program needs to be able to use setuid as well..
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Asmob: and not the one from the repo, but the website/webserver if you want USB support
[00:24] <Xcell> then
[00:24] <Ganang> capron: when i download the link, i receive a wmv file which says i dont have the plugins to play
[00:24] <pw-toxic> hi
[00:24] <Ganang> capron: i have the w32codes installed by the way
[00:24] <pw-toxic> how can i set the language of my system to english?
[00:24] <pw-toxic> its currently all german ;(
[00:24] <Asmob> sebsebseb, i tryed it also.. :) from page.. instaled on it ubuntu windows xp and 7
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Asmob: with what host OS?
[00:24] <Xcell> why do i have to reboot every 30 min or so for my /cdrom to initiate, and when it does, its wrong half the tome.
[00:25] <Xcell> time
[00:25] <darthanubis> pw-toxic: reinstall, this time do it right
[00:25] <Xcell> hmmm?
[00:25] <MeerCat> sounds lke a hardware related issue
[00:25] <Asmob> windows xp and 7 was ubuntu but for ubuntu windows 7
[00:25] <Xcell> its not
[00:25] <MeerCat> what do you mean initiate?
[00:25] <Davedan> MeerCat:  reading again it won't be good for me because I might need to restart the server
[00:25] <pw-toxic> darthanubis, wow this would be crazy because there is a lot of configuration on this server ;)
[00:25] <MeerCat> Davedan: ok
[00:26] <MeerCat> Davedan: why would you want to have that application listen on port 80?
[00:26] <Xcell> it wont mount any disc, and when it does, i have a hard time handeling it
[00:26] <darthanubis> pw-toxic: backup the config. If you run a "server" you should have backups
[00:26] <MeerCat> Xcell: sounds hardware related
[00:26] <Davedan> MeerCat: a web server
[00:26] <Davedan> MeerCat: written in Erlang
[00:26] <MeerCat> Davedan: oh sorry i never heard of it
[00:26] <Ganang> can anyone help with with wmv movies on ubuntu 9.04. I can't get it working
[00:26] <Xcell> its like i have to dedicate a special session to burning and reading cd/dvd's
[00:26] <Davedan> MeerCat: I could use nginx but want to simplify things
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Asmob: Have you used another Linux distro before?  I feel that we are starting to or are on the verge of getting a bit off topic here, so answer that, and it's probably better for us to continue a bit in a pm.
[00:26] <capron> Ganang,  I am sorry I checked it was a asx file that I did like that on.   I googled asf is hard to play
[00:27] <Xcell> MeerCat-  gentoo works, why iz this ?
[00:27] <MeerCat> Xcell: how is the CDROM connected?
[00:27] <Ganang> capron: thanks!!! i lost the video streaming of my best web site....shit!
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Asmob: ok pm it is then
[00:27] <Arsin> Can someone help me with FahMon?
[00:27] <Xcell> i use no usb, its all cable
[00:28] <Asmob> sebsebseb, yes
[00:28] <MeerCat> Xcell: is it a sata or pata?
[00:28] <Xcell> pata
[00:28] <ke1ha_> Arsin: it's best to run FAHmon from Windows, but you can compile it from Sources on UB.
[00:28] <Xcell> and some times /dev/mount  will not work
[00:28] <Xcell> most of the time
[00:28] <MeerCat> /dev/mount?
[00:28] <MeerCat> or mount?
[00:28] <Davedan> MeerCat: what about iptables to redirect traffic from port 80 to 8000? will it scale?
[00:29] <MeerCat> Davedan: thats possible
[00:29] <Xcell> /dev/mountcdrom
[00:29] <MeerCat> i was going to mention it
[00:29] <Arsin> ke1ha_: I want to fold as I use my computer since this is the only computer I have; but if I can only monitor in Win, I'll be stuck in Win7 forever
[00:29] <Davedan> MeerCat: the performance will be as using a reverse proxy?
[00:29] <ke1ha_> Arsin: Here's the Ubuntu FAHmon How-Too. I've used it, it works: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=703180
[00:29] <Xcell> sudo mount /dev/cdrom  does not work
[00:29] <blueghost> 6++0865212046+046;p[k
[00:30] <tomatoes7> i setup my desktop to accept remote desktop logins....and from my laptop i can login and see the screen, and i can control the desktop with both the mouse and keyboard....but i can't see what i'm doing...the image of the remote desktop doesnt update
[00:30] <MeerCat> Davedan: i imagine the performance depends on your system
[00:30] <sarthor> Hi, how can i redirect my LAN clients all browsing requests <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to a web server running on <IP_ADDRESS> on my lan, Using iptbales
[00:30] <MeerCat> Xcell: i see
[00:30] <Davedan> MeerCat: thanks
[00:30] <MeerCat> Xcell: what doesn't work about it? whats in logs when its done?
[00:30] <Xcell> and when i /  echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches   it sometimes works
[00:30] <MeerCat> interesting
[00:30] <Xcell> ya, tell me
[00:30] <jenia_> hello everyone
[00:31] <tomatoes7> i have the same problem with vncviewer and vinagre
[00:31] <welshboykev> not shure if i can ask about torrenting in here and im just lerning linux after only ever useing windows for 10 years but i was woundering is it posabul to use rtorrent and a back end app for torrentflux-b4rt becaus flux has a number of torrent clians inbedded into it but rtorrent gets much better conection and speeds duz any1 know if this is possable ?
[00:31] <MeerCat> Xcell: and what is that variable set to in gentoo?
[00:31] <Xcell> ubuntu 7.10 worked fine in most depatrments, it will be interesting tom see how things work without (hal)
[00:31] <ke1ha_> Arsin: here's a shorter version: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=457296     Google is Your friend :-)
[00:33] <jenia_> i have a lenovo laptop, i want to set the "middle button" of the "mouse" to the following function: when i press the button, the mouse grabs the content on the screen and then i can pull up or down with the mouse and the screen content will scroll up or down
[00:33] <dyek> Hi! parted command: "resize NUMBER START END" gave me this "Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled." I suspect that this is caused by Ubuntu's FS utility cannot deal with ext_attr. Is that the case? Is there anything I can do to use Ubuntu (don't have a Fedora system near me at this time) to resize a Fedora-based thumbdrive larger?
[00:33]  * Xcell rollz another superbowl fatty while inticipating how to get his hal, cdrom working properly
[00:34] <Xcell> mexican tortia
[00:34] <jenia_> anyone knows how to do this?
[00:34] <sebsebseb> !ot | Xcell
[00:34] <d1gital> hey all, just moved a hdd from one machine to another, and everything works fine except the nForce ethernet.  ifconfig does not list eth0.  dmesg | grep eth0 returns nothing and modprobe forcecdeth doesn't help. any ideas?
[00:35] <pw-toxic> when i try to install ebox, i get the following message:  "Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade" -> "ebox: Depends: libapache-authcookie-perl but it is not installable   Depends: libebox (>=1.) but 0.12.2-0ubuntu1 is not to be installed"
[00:35] <pw-toxic> what does this mean and how can i fix this?
[00:35] <ke1ha_> dlgital: is the NIC embedded or a PCI card ?
[00:36] <Xcell> lol, well, it would sem , that with all the collections of hardware data from a vast pool of peoples resources, that they would have simple fixes for this,. you know, after being an electronics engineer 4 over 30+yrs, i see no reason why nothing should work properly..
[00:36] <Xcell> simple logic
[00:38] <adnc> hello, my window buttons are on the left side of the window-title-bar (close, minimize, maximize) does someone know how i can get them again to the right side?
[00:38] <dsnyders> adnc, change your theme?
[00:38] <adnc> i tried
[00:38] <dsnyders> adnc, well, I'm out of ideas
[00:39] <z0d14rk> hello
[00:39] <adnc> dsnyders, thank you, i did that several times, it still stays left
[00:39] <z0d14rk> #ubuntu
[00:39] <z0d14rk> Hey can i get some assistance im having lots of problems
[00:39] <dsnyders> z0d14rk, ask your question
[00:40] <PeterT> !ask > z0d14rk
[00:40] <darthanubis> lots of new ppl today
[00:40] <Xcell> i 1nce recently that there are over 2700 folks alone working on the linux kernel, if this is true, where are the benefits  ?
[00:40] <jsec> adnc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1113999
[00:40] <darthanubis> adnc: what did you do to get them that way
[00:41] <darthanubis> since that is not default
[00:41] <adnc> quite some time ago i used a theme, that changed it to the left
[00:41] <aaron> hey i have a question how come it says Disk has many bad sectors how can i fixed this?
[00:41] <ke1ha_> Xcell:  that's a good question :-) ... I see lots change, but benefit has yet to seen on my end.
[00:41] <d1gital> ke1ha_:  it's embedded.
[00:41] <adnc> jsec thank you, i'll read it
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Xcell:  people tend to focus on one part/aspcet/driver of the kernel. so one guy may just be doing bug fix/optmizations on one little part
[00:41] <Xcell> out of 2700  ?
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> Xcell:  go do some dev work and learn I guess
[00:42] <ke1ha_> Just checking, but have you checked the BIOS to make sure it's not been disabled somehow.
[00:42] <Arsin> ke1ha_: I've installed I just don't know what to do with the monitoring part of it
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> we are not talking FULL TIME Jobs here.
[00:42] <Xcell> nasa dont have that many, and they sent man 2 the moon, lol
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> bye
[00:42] <ke1ha_> Arsin: you add a client to it, and it tells you the status.
[00:42] <aaron> hey i have a question how come it says Disk has many bad sectors how can i fixed this?
[00:42] <Arsin> ke1ha_: I added one, but what is "Location"
[00:43] <AndyGraybeal> i'm running ubuntu 8.10, is there a way to install tmux package ??
[00:43] <pw-toxic> can anyone tell me why the dependencies dont work in the synaptic package manager?
[00:43] <d1gital> ke1ha_:  no, it's enabled.  at one point i disabled it and plugged in another nic, to no avail.
[00:43] <ke1ha_> Dligital: Additionally, what Motherboard is in the box ? I though nForce used Marvell BICS ?
[00:43] <Allyourbaserbelo> exit
[00:43] <pw-toxic> i cant install any ebox module..
[00:43] <ke1ha_> opps used Marvell NICS
[00:44] <z0d14rk> Thank you, i recently installed 9.10 along side windows 7, i had windows 7 installed first and did a iso mount. Everything was running fine until i recieved the normal updates. However grub became became curupted after the update and i get the recover console. I then followed some directions on how to fix it and created a live usb. I reinstalled grub but now i get no boot menu to windows 7 or Ubuntu and i am completely lost for i can only
[00:44] <z0d14rk> use my bootable.
[00:44] <Xcell> are you really a doctor  ?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> !ot | Xcell
[00:44] <nomnex> where is the mplayer doc on Ubuntu Kamric > message mplayer DOCS/HTML/en/video.html
[00:44] <adnc> jsec, thank you very much, that did the job. there is a gconf key for it
[00:44] <ke1ha_> man mplayer
[00:45] <jsec> adnc, np
[00:45] <adnc> it did last for so long i'm not anymore used to have it on the right ;)
[00:45] <Xcell> Dr_Willis-  lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:45] <z0d14rk> In simple terms ubuntu updated grub got **** and now i have no boot screen
[00:46] <cryptk> ok, so I am at a total loss... I have tried multiple distros... multiple versions... all of them have the same issue where my mouse randomly freezes....
[00:46] <jef91> z0d14rk Reinstall grub?...
[00:46] <jsec> cryptk, new mouse?
[00:46] <jef91> cryptk - try a different mouse?
[00:46] <z0d14rk> After reinstalling i lost my boot screen
[00:46] <Xcell> o, he cNT, SRY
[00:46] <jef91> z0d14rk Reinstall grub?...
[00:47] <z0d14rk> Grub was corrupted i reinstalled grub to try to fix it but in resulted in complete loss of my boot screen
[00:47] <cryptk> jef91 that is the thing... it worked great before... then my HD broke, I got a new one... reinstalled ubuntu and now I have the problem... I had it before but it stopped, I don't know what I did to fix it
[00:47] <b0w> hello how can i get into grub screen instead of goign directly to ubuntu's session login?
[00:47] <TCHebb> cryptk: This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3003669&postcount=32
[00:47] <cryptk> jef91, the mouse works absolutely fine in Windows... it is a Logitech G7
[00:47] <jef91> b0w press escape during boot
[00:48] <cryptk> TCHebb I am reading it now
[00:48] <z0d14rk> How do i reinstall grub then so i can use my windows and ubuntu
[00:49] <cryptk> TCHebb I tried that before and Ubuntu booted to a black screen with a flashing cursor... I will try it again though and report back
[00:49] <cryptk> TCHebb I can make that change in grub2 to test it right?
[00:49] <TCHebb> cryptk: I think so
[00:49] <z0d14rk> tcheb i have the same problem
[00:49] <cryptk> TCHebb ok, I will try it again and see if it actually boots this time
[00:50] <cryptk> bbiab
[00:50] <snayth> Hey I have a friends older lappy that's not very fast - Couldn't get Karmic to run very good - Thinking about trying Slax, or Crunchbang - This person is a noob to linux though - Not sure what to try - Anybody  have a suggestion ? ?
[00:50] <Akkernight> how do I download the 32bit development libraries for ubuntu
[00:50] <seanbrystone> snayth, why not try an  older ubuntu version?
[00:50] <jonzbcc> pidgin plugins -- how are third party plugins installed?
[00:51] <TactiCal_S3kt> Lol
[00:51] <ke1ha_> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[00:51] <Ari_Lazarus> hi guys. I'm trying to run a using Wine and have run into a few interesting things. I installed Fallout Online (uses Fallout 2 graphics) in Windows and in Ubuntu I can run the exe using Wine. However, I get some rather odd video artifacts. Is there a more advance configuration file I can access for Wine other than the default ones I see when I 'Configure Wine'?
[00:51] <Ari_Lazarus> run a game*
[00:51] <axisys> how do I install this ppa:aroth/ppa using apt short from adding the repo manually to the apt sources.lst ?
[00:51] <dsnyders> z0d14rk, do you have some sort of linux boot device (usb, livecd) that you can boot from?
[00:52] <PeterT> /join ##superbowl
[00:52] <Utgard> heya all, wondering if anyone knew of a good place for magicrescue recipes? ie for .mov files.
[00:52] <jonzbcc> anyone understand pidgin plugins?
[00:53] <jef91> ari_lazarus - You can sometimes, but it is better to just install it under Wine instead of running it from widnows
[00:53] <TactiCal_S3kt> set configure
[00:53] <jef91> Windows*
[00:53] <Ari_Lazarus> jef91: I considered that the first time, but way too much work involved - I'd have to install the .Net platform in Wine to even do that
[00:54] <lostinspace_46> While installing pygtk-2.16.0 I get this messege...configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GTK_2_16" was never defined.  Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally.  I'm not sure what to do about it  I don't which macro the message refers to.
[00:54] <_CommandeR_> how do you mount mdf file ?
[00:54] <snayth> seanbrystone: Which one might be best or least intensive?
[00:54] <electroman> hello all im noobs on ubunto :D
[00:55] <cryptk> TCHebb: so i tried what was in that link and again it would not boot
[00:55] <cryptk> It showed the white ubuntu logo, then after that it went to a black screen with a blinking _ in the top left corner
[00:56] <cryptk> system wouldn't change tty's, also wouldnt respond to an Alt+SysRq+B
[00:56] <axisys> got it .. its add-apt-repository.. it really should be apt-add-repo or add-repo-add .. start with apt . not add
[00:56] <cryptk> well... Alt+SysRq+R,S,E,I,U,B
[00:56] <jef91> Ari_Lazaurs - just use Wine tricks - its easy
[00:56] <kinja-sheep> axisys: Use alias if it is bothering you that much.
[00:56] <jenia_> hi i need some help and im wondering if anyone here can help me?
[00:57] <Ari_Lazarus> !ask | jenia_
[00:57] <jenia_> i have a lenovo laptop, i want to set the "middle button" of the "mouse" to the following function: when i press the button, the mouse grabs the content on the screen and then i can pull up or down with the mouse and the screen content will scroll up or down
[00:57] <Utgard> anyone recommend a data recovery software to retrieve deleted camera files?
[00:57] <teage> Is it possible to say, have a dewl boot with say Ubuntu and some other Distro, and tunnel the programs to work from one to another .
[00:57] <jenia_> hey lazarus
[00:57] <teage> hope i didnt confuse anyone
[00:57] <ZykoticK9> Utgard, photorec
[00:58] <jrib> teage: yes, but why would you want to?
[00:58] <jenia_> you know how to do this by any change?
[00:58] <blakkheim> teage: only with your misspellings. and no that's not really a feasible thing to do
[00:58] <Ari_Lazarus> newp :3
[00:58] <Utgard> ty, does that do .mov aswell?
[00:58] <teage> blakkeim: maybe for you it isnt
[00:58] <teage> i have my reasons
[00:58] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: It does not do that automatically for you? I just tried middle-click-down and scroll.
[00:58] <jrib> teage: ok...
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> Utgard, you might need to use testdisk < they are both made by the same people
[00:59] <jrib> teage: there's probably a better way which is usually why people ask that question.
[00:59] <teage> jrib: Im sure there is. well
[00:59] <Utgard> ok, tx
[00:59] <_CommandeR_> !mdf
[00:59] <teage> jrib: i know there is its just im lazy.
[00:59] <jrib> teage: ok
[01:00] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: What software are you trying this on?
[01:00] <teage>  and i like to explore a little bit
[01:01] <jenia_> im using ubuntu 9.04 and i tried it with nautilus and firefox and any other application like the irc client im using
[01:01] <cryptk> anyone else have any ideas about my mouse freezing problem... or why my system won't boot with "acpi=force irqpoll" in the kernel line (which is supposed to fix my problem)
[01:02] <Mike_lifeguard> Is it possible to rename system accounts after they're created?
[01:02] <z0d14rk> Does anyone know how to install grub to my ubuntu partition
[01:02] <TCHebb> cryptk: Is you're mouse plugged into a hub or directly into the computer?
[01:03] <Mike_lifeguard> !grub | z0d14rk
[01:03] <cryptk> TCHebb: it happens wether the reciever is plugged into the port on it's base/charger or directly into the computer
[01:03] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: You may have to configure your mouse, I guess.  Most mouses works correctly right out of the box.  Unless you changed something recently.
[01:03] <kinja-sheep> !mouse | jenia_
[01:05] <jenia_> sorry everyone i'm not using a extra mouse, its the buttons on the keyboard that have the function of the mouse; that is what i meant what i said mouse
[01:06] <TCHebb> cryptk: You could try disabling "Legacy USB" in your BOIS. Other than that, I wouldn't know
[01:06] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: Please don't PM me. Thanks.
[01:07] <jenia_> no probs
[01:07] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: I think you want keyboard shortcuts.
[01:07] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: Check System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:08] <jenia_> no i checked
[01:08] <jgcampbell300_> can anyone suggest a free open source version of exchange for ubuntu
[01:08] <jenia_> are the mouse bottons considered like the rest of the button on the keyboard or do they have special name?
[01:09] <ke1ha_> as in MS-Exchange for UB ?
[01:09] <kinja-sheep> jgcampbell300_: Zimbra? Maybe.
[01:09] <jgcampbell300_> yahoo owns Zimbra
[01:09] <cryptk> TCHebb: I will give that a shot...
[01:09] <Uqbar> hello. I'm running 9.10 and geeqie seems to be lacking the "Editors" tab in the prefereces dialog. is this intended?
[01:10] <b0w> hello! how can i check if i got bluetooth device or whats its name to use it, i know i got one because on Windows i use to have it but i think its on the same card as the wifi, anyone can help??
[01:10] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: You could try keytouch.
[01:10] <infid> is there a way to list what the last 5 processes were?
[01:10] <kinja-sheep> !info keytouch | jenia_
[01:11] <kinja-sheep> b0w: Try "lsusb"
[01:11] <Kentrel> When I press Ctrl Alt F1 to get the standard console I just get a blank screen? Wazzup?
[01:11] <jenia_> thanks
[01:11] <jgcampbell300_> !info exchange
[01:12] <b0w> kinja-sheep: yeah already did but nothing appear on that, i know i got it on Windows but on linux its a lil bit harder
[01:12] <ke1ha_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_groupware
[01:12] <jgcampbell300_> thanks Kelha
[01:12] <kinja-sheep> b0w: Not even "lsusb | grep -i blu" or "dmesg | grep -i blu"?  Both appears for me.
[01:12] <kameron> any grub2 gurus around? i want to add my windows partition to the list. in legacy grub i would simply edit menu.list, but i don't know how to do it in grub2.
[01:13] <Kentrel> kameron, there's a command to update grub
[01:13] <bazhang> kameron, tried sudo update-grub ?
[01:13] <Kentrel> I think its either sudo update-grub
[01:13] <Kentrel> ah, yeah
[01:13] <b0w> kinja-sheep: http://pastebin.com/f511551c6
[01:13] <kameron> bazhang, is that it? it auto-detects or what/
[01:14] <ke1ha_> Alternatives to Zimbra: Scalix OpenGroupware Open-Xchange
[01:14] <jenia_> thanks very much kinja-sheep
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> kameron: Yes. There are Operating-System-Prober script.
[01:14] <b0w> kinja-sheep: thats fro dmesg
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: keytouch did the trick?
[01:15] <Kentrel> kameron, it should auto detect
[01:15] <kameron> okay ill check it out. reboot.
[01:15] <Kentrel> As long as your windows partition is bootable
[01:15] <Kentrel> no no, you shouldn't have to reboot
[01:15] <jenia_> well actually, i dont see any
[01:15] <kinja-sheep> b0w: You installed Ubuntu using LiveCD?
[01:16] <jenia_> option for setting this button to scroll
[01:16] <b0w> kinja-sheep: yes clean install
[01:16] <jenia_> yes i did, but i saw some plug-ins ill see what those are
[01:17] <kinja-sheep> b0w: I'll tell you what I have installed -- bluetooth, bluez, gnome-bluetooth. (I installed it from ground up so I had to include those packages).
[01:17] <lostinspace_46> While installing pygtk-2.16.0 I get this messege...configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GTK_2_16" was never defined.  Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally.  I'm not sure what to do about it  I don't which macro the message refers to.
[01:18] <b0w> kinja-sheep: ok let me install those to see if i get it owrking
[01:18] <kinja-sheep> b0w: If you don't see Bluetooth-Applet on notification area, try "bluetooth-applet &" -- I'm not sure why you don't see it though. :o
[01:18] <jrib> lostinspace_46: pygtk is in the repositories, you shouldn't need to complie it
[01:19] <jenia_> can anyone tell me, why cant i talk in channel firefox?
[01:19] <jrib> jenia_: try #freenode
[01:19] <lostinspace_46> jrib,  I will look again.  Thought it was there, but didn't see it. Thanks.
[01:19] <kinja-sheep> jrib: I think they are on different server.
[01:20] <jrib> kinja-sheep: there's a #firefox on freenode too
[01:20] <jrib> !info python-gtk2 | lostinspace_46
[01:22] <jenia_> okay, i want to report this question: how do i set the middle button on my laptop to scroll
[01:22] <jenia_> what i mean by middle button is the button that serves the purpose of the middle button on a regular mouse
[01:23] <jenia_> and what i mean by scroll is that i will press it, the virtual mouse will grab the screen and i will be able to pull the screen up or down
[01:23] <lostinspace_46> jrib, python-gtk2 is the same as pygtk?
[01:23] <jenia_> i want  to repost* my question
[01:23]  * yru12bnvs slaps yru12bnvs around a bit with a large E71-2
[01:24] <titan_ark> hey, can i not make the menu searchable?
[01:24] <jrib> lostinspace_46: yes
[01:25] <titan_ark> anyone?
[01:25] <fabter> hiii
[01:25] <b2bwild> hello
[01:25] <teage> totam_ark: what do you mean ??
[01:27] <Excalibur43> Ïðèâåò âñåì
[01:27] <kaddi> !ru
[01:28] <Excalibur43> Eto mne?
[01:28] <Excalibur43> Ot menya krakozyabry?
[01:28] <teage> looks like hebrew er somthin
[01:29] <kaddi> his ip is from moscow, that made me think russian
[01:29] <jenia_> excalibur privet
[01:29] <teage> ahhh
[01:29] <jenia_> kak mne pisat na ubuntu-ru
[01:30] <jenia_> mne pishut cannot send in channel
[01:30] <bazhang> !ru | jenia_ Excalibur43
[01:31] <teage> shale break out the handy dandy translator ............*notebook*
[01:31] <Excalibur43> thanx parni
[01:31] <titan_ark> anyone with an idea on installing beagle? the search thing in the menu?
[01:31] <b2bwild> Is there any way to play QuickTime 7 files on Linux?
[01:31] <nanomachine> as
[01:31] <kaddi> teage: let me know if you get anything useful from it. :P googletranslate failed miserably :p
[01:31] <marcuy> any virtuemart users out there?
[01:31] <jamesbrink> hey guys im trying to do a simple if in bash, can somone tell me what i need to do to make this work
[01:31] <jamesbrink> if `groups` |  grep -q "adm"  ; then echo "Welcome Admin"; fi
[01:32] <dht123> Hi, is there ANY way to get TurboTax working under Ubuntu?
[01:32] <dht123> I really need to get this working. :(
[01:32] <BrainDance> hey does anyone know if theres a lubuntu channel? The beta pretty much saved an old laptop of mine (runs perfectly, really impressive) but I'm having one minor issue I know how to fix in ubuntu, but not lubuntu
[01:32] <teage> kaddi: yes it is. I think it only translates words and not sentences
[01:32] <Excalibur43> !ru
[01:32] <administrator_> RR
[01:33] <BrainDance> or better yet, would anyone here be able to help me with my insanely basic lubuntu question?
[01:33] <teage> kaddi: the a complete sentence would sound retarded
[01:33] <administrator_> ?
[01:33] <BrainDance> woah, confusing channel :)
[01:33] <darthanubis> dht123: virtualbox
[01:34] <Trek> !ot | BrainDance
[01:34] <BrainDance> is it even alright to ask for help in this channel?
[01:34] <gyles19> The only way to use turbotax on linux that I know of is to use the online forms they started offering a few years ago. They won't make a linux-native Quicken or Turbotax, I've been nagging them for years with no results.
[01:34] <Trek> !ask | BrainDance
[01:34] <darthanubis> !ask | brand0n
[01:34] <administrator_> My name is Liben
[01:34] <darthanubis> !ask | BrainDance
[01:34] <darthanubis> oops
[01:34] <BrainDance> oh ok, fair enough
[01:34] <kaddi> BrainDance: just ask, if someone knows the answer he'll probably reply even though it's a lubuntu question
[01:34] <Trek> @darthanubis: I already got him.  :)
[01:34] <darthanubis> :)
[01:34] <meowbuntu> Hi with unetbootin does that install a live or full os to a hdd. i know to a usb its a live ome..
[01:34] <dht123> Is there ANY native Linux USA Income Tax Software that is NOT open source, and commercially supported?
[01:35] <bazhang> meowbuntu, full
[01:35] <administrator_> Who are you
[01:35] <Trek> dht123: no.  thats why Linux is Open Source
[01:35] <darthanubis> dht123: lol be serious. If it is NATIVE LINUX it would be OPENSOURCE
[01:35] <meowbuntu> are you sure wow. could it also install an full os to a usb hdd
[01:35] <Trek> dht123: you might be able to run TurboTax (commercially supported) using Wine
[01:35] <meowbuntu> bazhang, are you sure wow. could it also install an full os to a usb hdd
[01:35] <ke1ha_> dht123, have you tried it with "wine" .. I know Quicken works under wine.
[01:35] <darthanubis> as if OPENSOURCE would mean your tax data would be insecure
[01:35] <dht123> I don't trust open source software to do my taxes properly -- I don't want to be audited...
[01:35] <Kismet> hey my automount dose not work
[01:36] <darthanubis> dht123: logoff then
[01:36] <d1gital> is it a good idea to mount /var/run when using a chroot?
[01:36] <darthanubis> and trust your data to closed sources
[01:36] <dht123> TurboTax does NOT work under Wine. Error Message: Access Denied
[01:36] <Kismet> i pluged in a harddrive in my laptop in the cd rom slot and it dose not show
[01:36] <darthanubis> dht123: VIRTUALBOX
[01:36] <BrainDance> The issue is, my laptop has a crappy touchpad for a mouse, and when I'm typing the thing sometimes gets hit and I find out later I've messed up what I was typing. I know how to disable it while typing in ubuntu (edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf i beleive? Among other ways) but that doesnt seem to work in Lubuntu. Any other way to do it? Or even just disable to touchpad altogether since its useless and I just use an external mouse anyway
[01:37] <meowbuntu> dht123, ay opensorce applications are just the same as anyother applications. only differance is that you have the ability to freely modify them from the sorce code if you know how.
[01:37] <ke1ha_> Only other option, VM .. and install WinDoze.
[01:37] <darthanubis> BrainDance: the mouse option in the system menu
[01:37] <dht123> VirtualBox is a pain to set up -- I'm not a very technical user... I'm used to windows.
[01:37] <darthanubis> at least in gnome
[01:37] <darthanubis> dht123: then windows 7 it is then
[01:37] <darthanubis> case closed
[01:37] <administrator_> 由中国人吗？有会汉语的吗？
[01:37] <meowbuntu> ke1ha_, sorry y do you need windozzy
[01:38] <teage> why does gnome give me little freeze glitches?
[01:38] <kaddi> BrainDance: i have syndaemon -i 0.5 -d -t -K running as a background task. works like a charm
[01:38] <ke1ha_> Nope, Dont use WinDoze for much of anything.
[01:38] <gyles19> If you have a windows license to run under VirtualBox for accessing Turbotax,etc, then why do you need linux?
[01:38] <dht123> meowbuntu: not really. When it comes to tax software if I get audited, I can blame TurboTax. If it's open source software, I have no waranty. I'm on my own.
[01:38] <BrainDance> I got to the "keyboard and mouse" utility, but couldn't find anything about turning off the touchpad, it gave me very limited options in lubuntu, just "accelleration" "sensitivity" and "left handed" for mouse
[01:38] <teage> kde runs good but gnome always has tiny glitch freezes
[01:38] <kaddi> BrainDance: 0.5 is the number of seconds to wait before reenabling touchpad after last key pressed
[01:38] <bazhang> !cn | administrator_
[01:38] <dht123> darthanubis: your answers are not helping to solve my problem...
[01:38] <dht123> I just want to find SOME kind of commercially supported tax software. How hard can it be?!?
[01:39] <BrainDance> kaddi, I'm not that well versed in linux, skills limited to a community college class back in the day in redhat, so would that just be a terminal command or how would I go about doing that?
[01:39] <darthanubis> dht123: you don't have a problem except maybe in comprehension. Use Windows7 and you won;t have this tax situation
[01:39] <ke1ha_> Install VMware Player, then Windows x-version and install Turbo, problem solved.
[01:39] <dht123> darthanubis: why are you even in an ubuntu channel?
[01:39] <darthanubis> you can't use any of the solutons I gave you because you confess your not too bright to do so
[01:39] <darthanubis> you complain about linux not being trustworhty software
[01:39] <meowbuntu> dht123, who can audit you. its on your computer. adn if you have firewalls its pritty muchscure.
[01:39] <gyles19> dht123, none of the commercial tax software makers believe the linux crowd is an audience worth the development time.  They only want windows users.  We have to use windows if we want their software, end of their story.
[01:39] <BrainDance> Sorry to take up your time being relatively illiterate. Stayed out of a CS major because of my lack in math skills :P
[01:39] <dht123> meowbuntu: The IRS...
[01:40] <darthanubis> you want to use a cloed source windows only tax app
[01:40] <meowbuntu> ke1ha_, sorry y do you need windozzy
[01:40] <kaddi> BrainDance: yes, that would be a terminal command. syndaemon --help will give you all the options you have. unless you set it up as a service (I believe) you will have to run the command on every boot
[01:40] <Excalibur43> Ïðèâåò âñåì
[01:40] <darthanubis> did I miss anything?
[01:40] <Excalibur43> ó ìåíÿ íå êðàêîçÿáðû?
[01:40] <bazhang> Excalibur43, /join #ubuntu-ru
[01:40] <darthanubis> dht123: why are you here?
[01:40] <teage> HAHAHA, How is win7 gonna solve tax problems??
[01:40] <dht123> darthanubis: I want to use A TAX application on linux...
[01:40] <BrainDance> Where would I go to find out how to set it up as a service? I mean if its an involved process I wouldnt want to take up too much of your time
[01:40] <administrator_> thank you ubottu
[01:40] <darthanubis> You don't trust the software, troll somewhere else then
[01:40] <teage> I am interested now
[01:40] <BrainDance> but thank you a lot, for helping out kaddi
[01:40] <meowbuntu> dht123, . they cant hack into your computer without your permission. remember linux is atm virus free. i dont understand ???
[01:41] <darthanubis> dht123: Then is none as google could have well told you
[01:41] <darthanubis> you can use TT in VBOX
[01:41] <Random832> !ru | Excalibur43
[01:41] <dht123> darthanubis: I trust Linux, I don't trust random opensource tax software made by 17 year old kids who think they can develop
[01:41] <darthanubis> what more do tou want?
[01:41] <Random832> can the people in #ubuntu-ru handle cp1251?
[01:41] <darthanubis> Ten use what you trust
[01:41] <darthanubis> use what you trust
[01:41] <darthanubis> in the environment you wish
[01:41] <gyles19> Dht123, you're wanting a linux-based tax application that comes with an IRS Audit warranty.  There are none.  You and I are both stuckk with Windows.  I borrow my Dad's machine once a year for the purpose.  Or I could do it with their Online Turbotax service if I couldn't borrow.
[01:41] <ke1ha_> Win7 is not going to solve Tax problems, only the user can do that. If the worry is gattign audited, hire an accountant, that's what they do for a living.
[01:41] <darthanubis> I gave you an app where you can do that
[01:41] <dht123> meowbuntu: you have to send tax return forms to the IRS by law in the USA. Do you even know what I am talking about?
[01:41] <kaddi> dht123: noone would buy a closed-tource application for linux and no commerce will give warranties when there's no money to be made. so no such a thing doesn't exist
[01:42] <crunchbang> hey guys.... i'm a little unsure of where to go for crunchbang questions..  i'm terrible at navigating IRC
[01:42] <bazhang> dht123, you have been given some solutions. Please consider them and stop repeating.
[01:42] <kinja-sheep> !crunchbang | crunchbang
[01:42] <darthanubis> crunchbang: #crunchbang
[01:42] <dht123> kaddi: I would buy a closed source app for Linux, why do you assume nobody would?
[01:42] <darthanubis> where else?
[01:42] <igie> whenever i try to connect to open ssh with filezilla, using sftp, i get "error: could not connect to server" anyone know how to solve this?
[01:42] <crunchbang> darthanubis, thank you, that was far easier than i expected
[01:42] <gyles19> Kaddi, I would, and have, purchased closed-source apps to run on LInux.  Games, mostly, that I couldn't get otherwise.
[01:42] <teage> kaddi: yes I would buy depending on what the app is
[01:43] <darthanubis> crunchbang: yw, look before you leap ;)
[01:43] <braden_> how can i connect to  vpn network in jolicloud
[01:43] <BrainDance> So, in this channel, everyones just free to give out help? Thats actually surprising. Most times I've had problems with some kind of software or whatever, and go to an irc channel related to it, I get berrated
[01:43] <BrainDance> I think this is going to be a useful channel :)
[01:43] <dht123> so let me get this straight -- there are NO tax applications AT ALL for Linux?
[01:43] <darthanubis> igie: soon as you tell us everything
[01:43] <crunchbang> join #crunchbang
[01:43] <brand0n> !ask | Trek
[01:43] <woodyjlw> in ubuntu when you remove a program like wine and then install it again latter it remembers all the old settings and installed programs. how do you remove all of the stuff so on fresh install of wine it dose not have any of old settings
[01:43] <crunchbang> i think i did that wrong...
[01:44] <Trek> brand0n: huh?
[01:44] <darthanubis> course you did
[01:44] <gyles19> dht123, I've never seen a TAX application.  There are ACCOUNTING apps with tax packages attached, but those aren't what you're looking for.
[01:44] <darthanubis> crunchbang: put a / before join
[01:44] <crunchbang> forgot my slash.. there we go
[01:44] <brand0n> sorry trek
[01:44] <brand0n> meant to say
[01:44] <dht123> gyles19: is there even one that will work under WINE?
[01:44] <chelz> dht123: there totally are
[01:44] <brand0n> !ask | darthanubis
[01:44] <igie> darthanubis: sorry, once i try to ChrootDirectory a group in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, then I get that error, if I do not use ChrootDirectory, no problems
[01:44] <ke1ha_> not is you use the right flags it doesnt' leave anything, like -autoremove --purge it's all gone then.
[01:44] <teage> I tried turbo tax under wine till it wanted .net framework
[01:44] <chelz> dht123: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/130716
[01:44] <dht123> I dont care if it's under wine as long as it works and I don't have to buy a copy of Win7...
[01:45] <kaddi> woodyjlw: specficially for wine you can just go to ~\ and delete the folder .wine. In general you can do a apt-get purge <packagename> to remove the package and the settings
[01:45] <chelz> dht123: http://www.google.com/search?q=doing+taxes+ubuntu+OR+linux
[01:45] <gyles19> dht123: None of last years packages would, I haven't looked at this years'.
[01:45] <braden_> how can i connect to  vpn network in jolicloud
[01:45] <chelz> kaddi: moving is usually better than removing if it doesn't take up a lot of space, just in case it's needed later
[01:45] <woodyjlw> kaddi,  thanks
[01:45] <BrainDance> Is there an expected timeframe for a release of a non-beta Lubuntu? Because seriously I'm impressed
[01:46] <kaddi> teage if it's a .net application wouldn't it run under mono? Or is only part of it using .net?
[01:46] <BrainDance> the laptop I'm on is terrible, Ubuntu barely ran, Windows XP barely ran, but the Lubuntu beta runs perfectly
[01:46] <chelz> braden_: http://www.jolicloud.com/community
[01:46] <gyles19> dht123, Intuit has an ONLINE TAX form service based on TurboTax.  If I were so inclined/had no windows access at all, that's what I'd use.
[01:46] <dht123> Now is there a program that works under wine that lets you import a 2008 TurboTax file created under Windows Vista?
[01:46] <chelz> BrainDance: good to hear :)
[01:46] <Trek> BrainDance: you ever tried xubuntu?
[01:46] <darthanubis> kaddi: it all runs in VBOX
[01:46] <BrainDance> I have not
[01:46] <kaddi> chelz: (s)he specifically asked for remove, so I gave him/jer what (s)he asked for :p
[01:46] <meowbuntu> dht123, yes you are saying that an opensorse applications are not secure i dont get y
[01:46] <kinja-sheep> BrainDance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[01:46] <Trek> BrainDance: or some other lower-resource-sucking distro
[01:46] <BrainDance> The only distros I've tried are Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and I plan on trying Mythbuntu
[01:46] <Excalibur43> À òåïåðü?
[01:46] <chelz> dht123: that is probably something you'd have to research on your own. i'm guessing turbotax wouldn't work to get it easily imported into anything else, but there might be
[01:46] <teage> kaddi: not sure , the app completely blitzed when was time to install .net
[01:46] <kaddi> darthanubis: which would mean having a valid windows version to install on it
[01:47] <chelz> kaddi: ah i didn't see that, just trying to be helpful
[01:47] <darthanubis> kaddi: you assume too much
[01:47] <dht123> meowbuntu: I am NOT talking about security. I am talking about the reliability of Tax calculations that need to be very precise regardless of confusing tax laws and regulations.
[01:47] <xander98989> dht123: I just realized turbotax online uses flash. How cruel.
[01:47] <harjot> watis the difference between an empty session and restore previous session? (startup)
[01:47] <ke1ha_> Im on D400 Laptop right, with two runnign in VM, UB-910 and XB-910 .. only 512MB ram and it's runnign like a champ.
[01:47] <kaddi> teage: i've tried to install .net with no luck in wine, that doesn't seem to work
[01:47] <LiBen> assume'   what is meaning?
[01:47] <kaddi> darthanubis: how do you run windows applications in vbox without a full windows install?
[01:47] <darthanubis> harjot: the difference between the words empty and resume
[01:47] <BrainDance> I had always thought before that a low-resource distro would be super bare-bones, and barely able to do anything useful, but really, lubuntu (while a little buggy, but its a beta) doesn't really sacrifice anything. Yeah it comes with less packages by default but everything runs and it runs with just as many features, just without killingn this old laptop
[01:48] <dht123> How do you people who have been using Linux for a while now file your taxes?
[01:48] <igie> darthanubis: what other info can I provide you that would be of help in assisting me solve this problem?
[01:48] <chelz> dht123: in terms of software to automate the tax process, proprietary software does have the upper-hand atm. used licenses of windows aren't that expensive also. you might keep a small partition around to boot to for proprietary purposes
[01:48] <kinja-sheep> dht123: No. TurboTax file is a proprietary file IMO. Alternately, use form 4506-T and request a computer copy of your tax return. :)
[01:48] <darthanubis> kaddi: again, you assume I imply without
[01:48] <papi> holass
[01:48] <papi> =)
[01:48] <harjot> darthanubis: i was trying to get at what is restored and wat isnt
[01:48] <microlith> dht123: turbotax online, manually, pay someone else to do it
[01:48] <BrainDance> I convinced my fiancee' to put Ubuntu on her laptop, and she says it grew on her, and now that shes comfortable she prefers it over windows
[01:48] <jiohdi> dht123: taxact.com
[01:48] <ke1ha_> Most people use Services for Tax's not Linux.
[01:48] <teage> kaddi: nope, I use vmware for things like that. love my linux but hate when i have to go back to windows for things like that.
[01:48] <chelz> BrainDance: i'd be curious how crunchbang is compared to lubuntu for what you do
[01:48] <darthanubis> harjot: I think a dictionay would suit you better than this channel
[01:48] <jrib> dht123: there are plenty of free ways to e-file
[01:48] <harjot> darthanubis: maybe so
[01:49] <chelz> BrainDance: ubuntu netbook edition just needs a bit more polishing and i'm going to try to get it onto all the laptops i can
[01:49] <harjot> darthanubis: but seriously what type of things are saved
[01:49] <kaddi> darthanubis: since dht123 asked how to run the software without buying a version of windows I'm intrigued to see what you assumed
[01:49] <woodyjlw> kaddi,  that worked. I had to add sudo in front of it but it worked
[01:49] <dht123> jrib: I'm not concerned about e-filing as much as not making mistakes... filing taxes manually is very confusing.
[01:49] <teage> kaddi: I wonder if OSX has a handle on them sort of things
[01:49] <BrainDance> In all honesty, I hated linux for a while, back in 2004 I was a senure in highschool, dual enrolled and took a class in redhat, after that I hated it. I thought everything was just harder to do than in windows and took more time, so what was the point? But early last year I gave it another try, things have changed a lot
[01:49] <darthanubis> kaddi: I stopped paying him attentio a while ago so I missed that part
[01:49] <BrainDance> Whats crushbang? Another distro?
[01:50] <BrainDance> I thought about trying netbook edition, even though this isnt a netbook
[01:50] <harjot> darthanubis: any idea?
[01:50] <darthanubis> harjot: the things you have running? or intentionally save. I mean, really, what else?
[01:50] <microlith> dht123: so you either try and make an existing package work in Wine, or use an online filing tool. or do it yourself with a calculator
[01:50] <kaddi> darthanubis: well next time i suggest you stop replying once you stopped paying attention to what the person asking is actually saying
[01:50] <jiohdi> BrainDance: a window manager bare minimum
[01:50] <BrainDance> I have yet to have to compile anything on any install right now :) Unlike in 2004
[01:50] <darthanubis> kaddi:  I did, I was replying to your nonsense
[01:50] <chelz> dht123: you might be able to import to quicken then from quicken import to one of these: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/49400?theme=print
[01:50] <harjot> darthanubis: what so if i have firfox open, then its gonna stay open?
[01:50] <jrib> dht123: that's what I use, my taxes are simple...
[01:50] <BrainDance> I'll have to look into it, even on decent computers I hate things that just useless resources, I hate itunes :P
[01:50] <darthanubis> harjot: hence, resume
[01:50] <chelz> BrainDance: wait in another 4 years to see how much you have to compile ;)
[01:50] <BrainDance> I think its because, back in the day the only computer I had was a 286 for a while, while P2s were out
[01:50] <ke1ha_>  hated RedHat for a long time too, until Fedora came along, but I've used Slackware, Slack, Debian, UB, I like UB the most for everyday use, then custom builds for HPC apps.
[01:51] <harjot> darthanubis: ok i was just confused
[01:51] <BrainDance> So I had to be lean
[01:51] <darthanubis> harjot: I understand
[01:51] <chelz> !ot | harjot
[01:51] <jiohdi> BrainDance: if you have very very old low power machines crunchbang is good, but not for much else unless you just dont like gui
[01:51] <BrainDance> Its even easier to install software in Ubuntu than Windows, just get a big list of free software, click and choose
[01:51] <harjot> darthanubis: thanks for being an alternative to a dictionary
[01:51] <darthanubis> ;)
[01:51] <dht123> Can moneydance do US Income Taxes?
[01:51] <BrainDance> I pretty much forgot most of what I knew about using the terminal, which is a shame, because in Ubuntu I dont have t use it
[01:52] <jiohdi> dht123: there are at least a half a dozen online services that are free
[01:52] <BrainDance> but I do want to re-learn
[01:52] <kaddi> darthanubis: like what? pointing out that you were assuming the person was having a windows install handy when he actually had stated he hadn't? :p
[01:52] <ke1ha_> dht123: Google + Linux + Taxes Applications
[01:52] <BrainDance> But I cant think of what to do or what I'd even have to do?
[01:52] <ekim1> BrainDance, I have heard good things about Puppy Linux but never used it.  It is made to run with minimim specs.
[01:52] <ke1ha_> we're not tax experts here.
[01:52] <jiohdi> BrainDance: I generally use the terminal as a short cut to get programs I like
[01:52] <LiBen> How can I log chian's channal?
[01:52] <dht123> TurboTax online doesnt seem to support Linux. I checked. It tells me to "upgrade" my operating system
[01:53] <dht123> ... to Windows 7
[01:53] <chelz> dht123: you have to spoof your useragent
[01:53] <ke1ha_> Call them, you know, pick up the phone.
[01:53] <dht123> chelz: I don't even know what that means.
[01:53] <BrainDance> jiohda, sadly every time I've used it I've just been pasting someone elses commands
[01:53] <modulationz> dht123: https://turbotaxweb.turbotaxonline.intuit.com/open/registration/Start.htm
[01:53] <BrainDance> but is it really faster and more efficient to work with a command line?
[01:53] <darthanubis> kaddi: I figured a lover of all things closed source as he moaned about would have multiple copies of windows on hand. but seriously, they have windows vdis online.  So he is up a vreek regardless. Mind you, these are his self references not mine.
[01:53] <chelz> BrainDance: for some things that can be automated
[01:54] <jiohdi> braindance if you learn apt-cache search and then apt-get install whatever you can get programs loads quicker than synaptic
[01:54] <fajar><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:54] <BrainDance> thats the thing, on this laptop its just firefox, xchat, abiword, pidgin
[01:54] <BrainDance> stuff like that
[01:54] <teage> dht123: konquror has a net feature to be recognized as many browsers, I wonder if it can fool the online turbotax.
[01:54] <Jordan_U> BrainDance, It really depends on what you want to do.
[01:54] <ekim1> seeing all this chat about taxes, what is a good linux accounting package?  Any recommendations?
[01:54] <BrainDance> I'd like to tinker around with it more, but unlike in hgihschool I just dont have the time anymore
[01:55] <jiohdi> BrainDance: if you install lots of machines you will find the benefits, but if not... dont worry about
[01:55] <chelz> BrainDance: you might be lucky enough (from some perspective) to not need to leave GUIs
[01:55] <darthanubis> ekim1: search the repos
[01:55] <darthanubis> for "taxes"
[01:55] <darthanubis> learn to use your software
[01:55] <chelz> ekim1: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/130716 and http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/49400?theme=print
[01:55] <dht123> I only used Linux because I hate Windows and tech-savvy people I know say it's better -- is it really that unsupported?
[01:55] <BrainDance> is there a fully featured browser that runs on linux thats more memory efficient than firefox? I love firefox, but to be honest (especially with my tabbed browsing) it really is a memory hog. And I have issues with it not closing right
[01:55] <BrainDance> Is googles browser any good?
[01:55] <LiBen> ^_^
[01:55] <dht123> Maybe I should just get a Mac...
[01:55] <chelz> crossover office apparently works with quicken
[01:56] <darthanubis> !poll | BrainDance
[01:56] <titan_ark> how can i add the universe repository?
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> BrainDance: I'm on chrome right now.
[01:56] <BrainDance> I stil use windows on my media center pc, might switch to mythbuntu though, I just use linux because generally it does what I want to do a lot better and quicker than a PC, with less the hassle
[01:56] <chelz> BrainDance: some use google chrome. i personally use chromium, arora, and epiphany in addition to firefox
[01:56] <darthanubis> !ot | BrainDance
[01:56] <trineox> BrainDance: google chrome is decent i use it as well along with firefox
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> BrainDance: you should also consider xmbc (ubuntu based)
[01:56] <kaddi> BrainDance: learn to use the command line and you can disable your touchpad all together. ;) TZhat's the main reason I use the command line as much as I do... using the touchpad for anything is just a pain :D
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> *xbmc
[01:57] <BrainDance> Well, I guess I do have a support question, how do I go about installing chrome?  TurboTax says I need to install Adobe Reader, but I can already open PDFs. How can I make it stop asking?
[01:58] <BrainDance> alright, sounds good. Thanks for everyones help! This has seriously been the friendliest support channel I've ever been in!
[01:58] <trineox> darthanubis: yes i use ubuntu 99% of the time
[01:58] <Trek> dht123: install adobe reader
[01:58] <titan_ark> could some one please help me with adding the universe repo and i also wanted to increase to 4 workspaces/
[01:58] <kaddi> chelz I'm in to deep by now. Main reason I don't use windows it cause I can't get a working command line
[01:58] <dht123> Is that for Linux?
[01:58] <chelz> dht123: such is life with a proprietary program, gotta do what it wants
[01:58] <darthanubis> trineox: because not being aware of simple options in the menu is astonishing
[01:58] <chelz> dht123: no, you would install it with wine
[01:58] <Trek> dht123: they are multi-platform
[01:58] <sebsebseb> dht123: a lot of Tax stuff, if you want to run Windows apps try Wine, or with enough RAM a Windows virtual machine of real Windows
[01:58] <Trek> dht123: but install it under WINE
[01:58] <chelz> kaddi: happened to me too. i can't leave linux these days.
[01:58] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: right-click the switcher applet --> preferences
[01:59] <ekim1> darthanubis, I use it daily but I am new so I am trying to learn to do more with it.
[01:59] <ke1ha_> sudo apt-get install acroread
[01:59] <dht123> sigh...
[01:59] <jiohdi> dht123: I have absolutely no problem with taxact.com
[01:59] <chelz> dht123: looking into something like crossover would probably be a good idea if you really care about what you're doing, you seemed to consider taxes mission-critical
[01:59] <darthanubis> ekim1: go through the menu and leanr what apps you have and what they do
[01:59] <dht123> Why does every company seem to HATE Linux?
[01:59] <darthanubis> get familiar with synaptic
[01:59] <devrethman> darthanubis: I've used ubuntu forever, and I don't know where most stuff in the menu is. If I wanted to do everything with my mouse, I'd use windows.
[01:59] <darthanubis> !synaptic
[01:59] <trineox> darthanubis: i only use windows for my mmorpg's..thats it.
[01:59] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, i did that and made it 2 rows and 2 columns, but it still gives me 2 only
[01:59] <ke1ha_> if you wnat the FF plugins as well:
[01:59] <Trek> dht123: there's many differemt linux distros thats why :P
[01:59] <ke1ha_> sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins
[02:00] <chelz> dht123: it's just not that widely used. it took Mac OS X quite a while to finally get first class support for stuff like Photoshop
[02:00] <dht123> jiohdi: does taxact allow you to import 2008 TurboTax files?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> dht123: not every company, anyway I know what you mean, and  the simple answer to your question, since Windows has most of the desktop market share
[02:00] <darthanubis> devrethman: utter nonsense
[02:00] <ekim1> darthanubis, I do that and also sit back on this channel and see what people are using and talking about.
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: you don't have a 4x4 grid?
[02:00] <LiBen> sudo apt-get install acroread
[02:00] <pitlimit> can anyone tell me what buttons are EOF on ubuntu?
[02:00] <pitlimit> is it ctrl-d?
[02:00] <devrethman> Darthanubis: You want to get into an argument with me over my own usage preferences?
[02:00] <devrethman> That's cure.
[02:00] <devrethman> *cute
[02:00] <dht123> Can someone check if TaxAct can import TurboTax 2008 files
[02:00] <tyler_d> pitlimit: what do you mean?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> dht123: Even if you were using Mac OS X you would get issues with certain things that can be done in Windows
[02:00] <chelz> pitlimit: yep, in a terminal on pretty much all unices that's the key combination
[02:00] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, no a 2x2, should it be a 4x4?
[02:00] <darthanubis> ekim1: this channel is mostly noise. You'd learn more poking through your system, after backing it up of course
[02:00] <teage> lol
[02:00] <papi> marikaa
[02:01] <papi> tas?
[02:01] <tyler_d> pitlimit: in terminal its ctrl-d to exit, ctrl-c to quit normal
[02:01] <tyler_d> pitlimit: or break, and force is ctrl-x
[02:01] <dht123> I don't hate Linux, it's just that nothing seems to work in it.
[02:01] <meowbuntu> i need help i cant use the command y http://pastebin.com/d4a48e8fa
[02:01] <ke1ha_> then dont use it.
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: yes. try 4 col, 1 row. see if that helps.
[02:01] <mrpink57> dht123: a lot of new people say that...
[02:01] <sebsebseb> dht123: depends on what people are doing, and a lot works, or can get working, e.g. Wine or Windows virtual machine
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> dht123, I doubt (but don't know for sure) that installing the Linux version of Acrobat is going to resolve your issue -- you will probably end up having to install the Windows version in Wine for TurboTax to be "aware" of it -- i'm just guessing here, but something to keep in mind if the linux version fails.  good luck.
[02:01] <microlith> dht123: plenty works with it, but there are lots of proprietary applications that assume windows
[02:01] <dht123> I just recently installed Karmic to try it -- I'm not a Linux guru or anything...
[02:01] <teage> dht123: maybe you are doomed for windows
[02:01] <chelz> !es | papi
[02:02] <ekim1> darthanubis, I really do go poking around each day but my main issue is not know what linux program replaces my windoz program, if there is one!!
[02:02] <devrethman> teage: wait, what? How could someone be doomed to windows? That's a terrible fate.
[02:02] <darthanubis> ekim1: google has a list
[02:02] <teage> lol
[02:02] <tyler_d> meowbuntu: its wget "address"
[02:02] <ke1ha_> IIRC charts are not training courses, maybe that would be of more benefit to you.
[02:02] <chelz> dht123: turbotax will likely only recognize other windows things, since that's what it was setup to deal with. in this case the windows environment is everything within wine
[02:02] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to install postgresql, and for whatever reason it's not creating the /etc/postgresql config dir...  What do I do?  I've tried re-install postgresql, I've also tried running dpkg-reconfigure (nothing happens) .
[02:02] <kaddi> ekim1: osalt.com can be of help as well. IF they know the program
[02:02] <chelz> dht123: so you most likely need to install the windows version of acrobat
[02:02] <tyler_d> meowbuntu: the -O- on wget will not save the output
[02:03] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes i have got 4 now. i was trying to set up the cube effect ;) cant seem to get the up and down keys to function
[02:03] <ke1ha_> savid: you runnign it as sudo or a normal user ?
[02:03] <savid> ke1ha_,  sudo
[02:03] <chelz> savid: you might find into reading the stuff in /usr/share/doc/postgresql/
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: for the cube, you need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:04] <ekim1> darthanubis, kaddi:  I get that but there usually are ten programs that do the same thing so i always look for the recommended one or mostly used one to figure on less issues.
[02:04] <ke1ha_> Hmm .. interesting. sudo / root puts it in /etc .. have you ched the big rports ?
[02:04] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes i did that and selected the cube and reflection etc
[02:04] <ke1ha_> oops checked ...
[02:04] <savid> chelz,  no this is an ubuntu problem, not a postgresql problem
[02:04] <darthanubis> !poll | ekim1
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: ok. does it work now?
[02:04] <ekim1> there are some programs that are NOT done in linux that I can find so far. One is called TeamViewer.
[02:05] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, i am trying to install http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[02:05] <ke1ha_> Yeah, it's a port thing. I'd go to the bugs section, that doesn't seem right. I used to use postg .. ubt moved to mysql. so I've not tried it lately.
[02:05] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, no, it just keeps moving horizontally not like a cube
[02:05] <chelz> ekim1: the chat program empathy has screen sharing capabilities
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: did you enable the cube?
[02:05] <ekim1> yeah, i got all that but it is nice to get recommendations or to at least hear that people are using this program or not.
[02:05] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes
[02:06] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, whats rong with tj=hrer command
[02:06] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, i even enables extras and get the wobble
[02:06] <tyler_d> meowbuntu: huh?
[02:06] <meowbuntu> i need help i cant use the command y http://pastebin.com/d4a48e8fa
[02:06] <chelz> meowbuntu:  sudo wget http://deb.playonlinux.com/playonlinux_karmic.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playonlinux.list
[02:06] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, i am trying to install http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[02:06] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, whats rong with tj=hrer command
[02:07] <chelz> meowbuntu: all on one line, you need stuff after the    -O
[02:07] <tyler_d> lol, just read that
[02:07] <tyler_d> :)
[02:07] <tyler_d> instruction set fail
[02:07] <meowbuntu> oh i see there link is wrong ther
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: did you enable rotate cube as well?
[02:07] <meowbuntu> ^ thanks chelz
[02:07] <chelz> meowbuntu: just something you get from experience
[02:08] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes
[02:08] <chelz> ideally all of that sources.list.d creation can be handled in a similar way to the ppa: stuff is
[02:08] <savid> interesting,   an strace on dpkg-reconfigure shows this:  http://dpaste.com/156005/
[02:08] <meowbuntu> chyes i missed it myself
[02:09] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: still no?
[02:09] <meowbuntu> ^ chelz
[02:09] <srlopez> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <julito^> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <sincero> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <miguel_ayu> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <enzo_29> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <g6035> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <h7673> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <jeff__> i need help  please ... i cant get my sound to work with ubuntu
[02:09] <tyler_d> jeff__: are you using alsa or oss?
[02:09] <sincero> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <camila> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <g6035> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <srlopez> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <julito^> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <enzo_29> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <h7673> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <fabian28> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <verona|> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <joelito> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <miguel_ayu> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <alex^> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <z4021> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <ke1ha_> jeff_ which version and kernel ?
[02:09] <jeff__> thats the odd thing i cant find any sound options anywhere
[02:09] <chelz> !ops
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> !ops
[02:09] <Trek> !calltheops
[02:09] <jeff__> hmm im not really sure ... is there a command i can use to tel lme
[02:10] <savid> What is the purpose of the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info?   How do I restore files that are missing from there?
[02:10] <ke1ha_> uname -a
[02:10] <srlopez> !ops
[02:10] <g6035> !ops
[02:10] <julito^> !ops
[02:10] <enzo_29> !ops
[02:10] <miguel_ayu> !ops
[02:10] <h7673> !ops
[02:10] <sincero> !ops
[02:10] <verona|> !ops
[02:10] <camila> !ops
[02:10] <alex^> !ops
[02:10] <fabian28> !ops
[02:10] <z4021> !ops
[02:10] <joelito> !ops
[02:10] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, no :( i saw online i need to set cube caps but i dont see that option
[02:11] <chelz> savid: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2007-August/000659.html
[02:11] <ke1ha_> well, before we go through the whole thing, I installed 9.10 sound worked, did the dist-upgrade, it broke, had to reinstall alsa completely from scratch, then all was well again.
[02:12] <chelz> savid: http://mm.bbspals.org/linux/lost-var-lib-dpkg-on-debian/
[02:12] <jeff__> hmm guess i could upgrade to 9.10
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: hmm... I just set effects to normal/exta, and enabled "desktop cube" and "rotate cube" in ccsm.
[02:12] <joelito> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <sincero> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <miguel_ayu> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <camila> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <z4021> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <alex^> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <fabian28> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <verona|> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <Trek> !calltheops
[02:12] <tyler_d> why is everyone doing that?
[02:12] <ke1ha_> jeff_ 2.6.31-32 alsa seems to be working properly.
[02:12] <devrethman> What's with all the ubottu harassment?
[02:13] <Trek> its bots, devrethman
[02:13] <Odd-rationale> spammers
[02:13] <IdleOne> tyler_d: it's a botnet attack. the ops will get it under control in a minute
[02:13] <ke1ha_> opps sri. 2.6.31-19...
[02:13] <rww> devrethman, tyler_d: someone spamming the channel with bots. Best to ignoreit.
[02:13] <alex^> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops
[02:13] <z4021> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops
[02:13] <tyler_d> ahh
[02:13] <devrethman> Wait. There's bots harassing bots? What kind of world is this?
[02:13] <CShadowRun> devrethman: just some kiddie with tiny botnet who thinks he's clever.
[02:13] <rww> ubotu: don't worry, we don't :(
[02:13] <jeff__> cyber world lol
[02:13] <chelz> ideally their IPs would get reported to freenode staff and zlined
[02:13] <Trek> if I were an op, I'd go do that
[02:13] <brando753> guys is there a tool on ubuntu which i can use to print raffle/event tickets? Something like glabels which i use when printing labels
[02:14] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, it seems to rotate and i can move to all 4 workspaces but i cant see the cube and stuff as they show in the videos
[02:14] <alex^> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops !ubotu
[02:14] <z4021> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops !ubotu
[02:14] <Trek> WTF THEY'RE BACK!!!
[02:14] <Trek> !calltheops
[02:14] <jeff__> so what do you think ... should i try to upgrade to 9.10 to fix sound
[02:14] <IdleOne> Trek: stop calling the ops. they are here waiting for them
[02:14] <chelz> brando753: http://blog.worldlabel.com/2009/printing-labels-in-ubuntu.html
[02:14] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: try ctrl+alt+right-mouse and hold and move.
[02:14] <ke1ha_> Yes, I'd try 9.10 .. then dist-upgrade .. a new install went without a problem, no sound issues at all.
[02:14] <chelz> brando753: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/56209 and http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/119566
[02:15] <chelz> brando753: all from http://www.google.com/search?q=print+labels+linux+OR+ubuntu
[02:15] <jeff__> kk thanks Kelha
[02:15] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: sorry, left-mouse.
[02:15] <ke1ha_> 9.04 to 9.10 didn't work to well for sound. and initially, 9.10 broke it, but the latest 9.10-ISO-32 workes poretty good.
[02:15] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, oh yes it works in a kind of circular way now =D but i dont see the small cube kinda thing :P
[02:16] <sje46> everytime I watch a youtube video, the sound stops after a few seconds
[02:16] <Trek> i think i'll go hide in off-topic and the Pennsylvania LoCo Team's channels...
[02:17] <chelz> sje46: are you using the firefox and flash plugin from the repos? and does that happen with any other sites using flash besides youtube?
[02:17] <bksst> hi everyone
[02:17] <chelz> !hi | bksst
[02:17] <kaddi> hi :)
[02:17] <bksst> my first time here
[02:17] <sje46> chelz: firefox and chrome.  DOn't know what flash plugin you're talking abot.  And grooveshark doesn't work well either
[02:18] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, i was also seeing how to install the mac-style dock at the bottom, any ideas? i see that the universal repo needs to be activated. how do i do that?
[02:18] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: you can adjjust the zoom in the ccsm settings
[02:18] <chelz> sje46: in a terminal do:  dpkg -l | flash
[02:18] <sje46> although, chelz, with chrome, when I refresh, the music begins again, but that doesn't work with firefox.  I assume that has somethign to do with separate processes
[02:18] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, okay shall check now
[02:18] <`mOOse`>  sje46 right click on the youtube video box and then left click on the little envelope icon - make your cache unlimited
[02:18] <bksst> thanks for the info
[02:18] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: there are many dock applications you can use. My personal favorite is gnome-do with the docky theme.
[02:18] <chelz> `mOOse`: my player is set to no cache and YT works fine
[02:19] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: gnome-do should be in the repos
[02:19] <`mOOse`> has to do with flash sucking
[02:19] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, could you help me set it up? i am not very well versed with linux
[02:19] <sje46> chelz,  No command 'flash' found, did you mean:
[02:19] <sje46>  Command 'flasm' from package 'flasm' (universe)
[02:19] <chelz> sje46: sorry in a terminal do:  dpkg -l | grep flash
[02:19] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: sure. first install gnome-do
[02:20] <sje46> ii  adobe-flashplugin                          <IP_ADDRESS>-2karmic1                        Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[02:20] <brando753> guys is there a tool on ubuntu which i can use to print raffle/event tickets? simmilar to glabels not glabels
[02:20] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, done
[02:20] <`mOOse`> but in the meantime
[02:20] <`mOOse`> make your cache as big as possible to give youtube a chance to read ahead
[02:20] <brando753> glabels dosent print tickets
[02:20] <chelz> brando753: i linked you to a bunch of sites
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: would you like to pm me? (or let me pm you?)
[02:20] <tyler_d> anyone know how to hide the join/part in empathy?
[02:20] <sje46> 'm00se' but it isn't working for firefox or chrome
[02:21] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes please could you PM?
[02:21] <sje46> so it probably isn't the cache
[02:21] <brando753> chelz: those where for printing labels? im trying to print Raffle/Event Tickets
[02:22] <chelz> brando753: probably openoffice using a template: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/openofficeorg-template-collections
[02:22] <alabamahit> I have a question. If I install Ubuntu with WUBI, would it be slower thatn if I installed it myself froma  livecd? Or would it be the same?
[02:22] <bazhang> alabamahit, wubi is slower, more of a demo
[02:23] <sje46> @ chelz "ii  adobe-flashplugin                          <IP_ADDRESS>-2karmic1                        Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10"
[02:23] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, The install itself or the resulting system?
[02:23] <chelz> brando753: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=64135
[02:23] <perlsyntax> How do i see what the cpu speed are in ubuntu?
[02:23] <chelz> sje46: ah i saw that. thanks.
[02:23] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, The resulting system.
[02:23] <perlsyntax> ?
[02:23] <tyler_d> perlsyntax: in terminal type top
[02:23] <ke1ha_> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:24] <bksst> does anyone have issues with youtube video not having sound when you play a couple of them
[02:24] <chelz> sje46: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255422 - follow the instructions in the top post
[02:24] <chelz> bksst: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255422 - follow the instructions in the top post
[02:24] <tyler_d> cat /proc/cpuinfo perlsyntax
[02:24] <sje46> bksst, does it crap out in the first few seconds?
[02:24] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, IO will be somewhat slower because it has to write to an ext image file on an ntfs file system. Everything else should the same speed.
[02:24] <perlsyntax> thanks
[02:24] <bksst> sometimes
[02:24] <semitones> bazhang, are there guides in place to installing a real ubuntu installation after trying it in wubi? Or does the user have to figure it out him/herself?
[02:24] <bksst> thanks for the link chelz
[02:25] <ke1ha_> if you just want the speed only, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHZ
[02:25] <perlsyntax> thnks
[02:25] <IdleOne> semitones: the wubi website has instructions
[02:25] <bazhang> semitones, migrating a wubi install to a hdd? is that what you mean
[02:25] <sje46> but, chelz, the same thing happens with chrome...
[02:25] <ke1ha_> sri, that' MHz with small case "z"
[02:25] <bksst> yeah, the fix is only for firefox
[02:26] <tyler_d> or a -i ke15SAABM2A
[02:26] <chelz> sje46: oss might fix it
[02:26] <bksst> I was told to either delete or install fsound
[02:26] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, I installed with wubi, it took less than 10 minutes. from website. Was just curious if the OS itself will be slower.? Now that I have it installed.
[02:26] <markymark> Question, where is the device manager?
[02:26] <semitones> bazhang, yes, and does it warn the user that wubi isn't as fast?
[02:27] <bazhang> semitones, not sure if it warns, but apparently the developer of wubi himself said it was more of a demo than a real install
[02:27] <semitones> bazhang, IdleOne I want to know if I should recommend wubi to windows refugees
[02:27] <chelz> semitones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely?
[02:27] <bksst> what's oss
[02:27] <sje46> okay, trying it, chelz
[02:27] <Jordan_U> bazhang, Source?
[02:27] <ke1ha_> If you running anythign from within Windows, even Cygwin .. it's not in a true Linux state and the overhead of the host OS will affect it's performance
[02:27] <alabamahit> markymark, do you mean  (  System ->Administor -> System Monitor ) ?
[02:28] <IdleOne> semitones: it is a good way for people to try it out
[02:28] <chelz> ke1ha_: wubi only uses the windows partition, it doesn't actually load anything from windows
[02:28] <ke1ha_> best way to see "real" performance is a Native install.
[02:28] <ke1ha_> anythign other will be affected buy the Host.
[02:28] <alabamahit> wubi, don't run from "Inside" windows lol
[02:28] <markymark> No, not system monitor. I want to see the installed devices.
[02:29] <chelz> ntfs-3g is fuse so it runs in userspace and that isn't good for speed
[02:29] <ke1ha_> If Widows is "running" it has an affect, if it's not running, it wont.
[02:29] <alabamahit> windows is not running
[02:29] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, ke1ha_: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[02:30] <ke1ha_> then it should be close to true native Linux performance, aside from the File system, unless WUBI partitions it to EXT3 /4 or something other than NTFS
[02:30] <alabamahit> Sweet :)
[02:30] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, Thanks :)
[02:30] <markymark> Where is Device Manager in Ubuntu?
[02:30] <chelz> coLinux/andLinux might be more of 'running inside' windows
[02:30] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, np :)
[02:31] <sje46> chelz, etc/firefox/firefoxrc doesn't exist =/
[02:31] <chelz> markymark: linux does things different than windows
[02:31] <sje46> it's an empty file, I mean
[02:31] <chelz> sje46: yeah you have to make it
[02:31] <blackmamba> hello
[02:31] <semitones> markymark, what are you looking to do?
[02:31] <blackmamba> anyone having issues using that elementary GTK theme?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> markymark, "lshw" from the terminal, there is also a GUI application I can't remember the name of, but it doesn't come installed by default.
[02:31] <sje46> but I don't see "FIREFOX_DSP=”none” , chelz
[02:32] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, what is messed up i looked there before coming here lol, didn't find it lol. just looked now and it says clear as day.. "The performance is identical to a standard installation, except for hard-disk access which is slightly slower than an installation to a dedicated partition."
[02:32] <chelz> sje46: are you on intel?
[02:32] <koshari> markymark gnome-system-monitor
[02:32] <markymark> I have a CD Burner installed but system does not recognize it.
[02:32] <sje46> chelz, I have an intel celeron processor
[02:32] <chelz> sje46: see if this applies: http://downlode.org/Creative/Writing/Notebook/2009/11/fixing_sound_issues_with_flash_in_ubuntu_and_kubuntu_karmic_on_an_intel_sound_card.html
[02:33] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:33] <_CommandeR_> anyone know how to install quake3 on ubuntu?
[02:34] <ke1ha_> Looks like WUBI is a boot time app, so it should be close depending on the file-system selected on the partition.
[02:34] <sje46> chelz, I don't know if that applies...it doesn't make random popping noises
[02:34] <sje46> chelz, what do I do abotu that empty file?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> sje46, Are you using Ubuntu 9.10?
[02:35] <chelz> sje46: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:35] <chelz> i gotta brb
[02:35] <dht123> !windows
[02:35] <sje46> I am using ubuntu 9.10
[02:36] <Jordan_U> sje46, If you open System > Preferences > Sound, and go to the "Applications" tab, do you see chrome / firefox / flashplugin listed?
[02:37] <sje46> Jordan_U, no...
[02:38] <bksst> jordan_U I have firefox listed but no chrome
[02:38] <markymark> I am using Ubunty 9.04. Where can I see installed devices?
[02:39] <sje46> I have rhythmbox, totem, and alsa-plugin(chrome), Jordan_U
[02:39] <sje46> so I guess that is chrome
[02:40] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:40] <Jordan_U> sje46, When flash videos start having sound problems does rythmbox continue playing fine?
[02:41] <sje46> rhythmbox plays just fine, Jordan_U .  Also, I tried chelz's last suggestion, removing flash and reinstalling it (I think that's what it was), and I thought it was working, but it stopped playing ausio at the end
[02:41] <koshari> markymark for hardware scan the bus, ie lspci and lsusb, for drivers scam the loaded modules, ie lsmod
[02:42] <koshari> b0w what do you want to do with it?
[02:43] <Jordan_U> markymark, For a GUI you can install Sysinfo from Applications > Add / Remove
[02:44] <carebear> omelien.no
[02:47] <b0w> koshari: i want to connect my phone to my laptop
[02:49] <b0w> hahaha so quiet, everyone watching SB
[02:49] <CrazyBonz> hi
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> b0w:  Nope. :)
[02:51] <b0w> hahah its not regular to see this chan quiet
[02:52] <b0w> but we are not suppose to talk about this in here :P
[02:53] <bksst> how about audio issues while watching videos on youtube?
[02:53] <christopher> hi everybody
[02:54] <bksst> on ff and chrome
[02:54] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> bksst:  it works here in flash on chrome. or try the html5 feature of chrome and youtuibe
[02:54] <christopher> exit
[02:55] <bksst> how do I install html5
[02:55] <lostinspace_46> While installing      I get this message...error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0     gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met:  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable These pkgs are installed, but I can't find the executables.  How do I deal with this?
[02:56] <lostinspace_46> installing farsight
[02:57] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:58] <ubuntuser> how would i go about switching my laptop to my elevision monitor
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuser:  here iuse either the laptop special keys to swotch monitors. or the display settings tool
[02:59] <brando753> is there a way i can take photos from my digital camera hooked up to my laptop via usb
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> brando753:  some cams do work as a webcam.. some dont. so it depends
[03:00] <brando753> if it did how would i
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> read the cam manual..
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> or check its menus.. or try it
[03:00] <_CommandeR_> how do i rename a partition in ubuntu ?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> bye all.
[03:00] <igie> what do I type in terminal to see disk permissions ?
[03:01] <Jordan_U> brando753, Try a program called "cheeze"
[03:02] <gher06> hi
[03:02] <nawk> I realize many screensavers  found in previous versions of Ubuntu are no longer available in Karmic Koala
[03:02] <nawk> e.g. lattice
[03:02] <koshari> b0w ok first see if you can see your phone with hcitool scan
[03:02] <nawk> how can I get them ?
[03:02] <Phillips> #ubuntu, how do I make that leap from hello world to fully fledged program?
[03:03] <BluesKaj> nawk, install xscreensaver
[03:03] <hyperstream> Phillips, depends what language you use ?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> nawk, Don't install xscreensaver
[03:03] <lostinspace_46> While installing  farsight    I get this message...error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0     gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met:  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable These pkgs are installed, but I can't find the executables.  How do I deal with this?
[03:03] <Phillips> hyperstream: python
[03:03] <Jordan_U> nawk, Install xscreensaver-gl-extra and / or xscreensaver-data-extra
[03:04] <nawk> Jordan_U: okay, which package should I apt-get to get "lattice back"
[03:04] <hyperstream> Phillips, try #python or googling python tutorials(best way for online)
[03:04] <nawk> okay
[03:04] <nawk> thanks
[03:04] <userzy> via GParted on an ubuntu install CD I completely removed all ubuntu partitions and extended my winxp partition to cover the whole disk, yet when I try to boot I get the GRUB rescue console.  What is wrong?
[03:04] <Phosis> There is a good book on Python, called Learning Python...I have had some good results with it
[03:04] <koshari> b0w you need to use ppp protocon and you may need to bind the rfcom manually, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/416056
[03:05] <Phillips> Phosis: Alright thanks
[03:05] <Phillips> hyperstream: I'll be frequenting #python from now on
[03:05] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, well , I prefer to use xscreensaver as a vehicle to display my pictures on the , not as a source of images
[03:05] <koshari> b0w alternatively a 3g phone MAy be different
[03:05] <BluesKaj> err display
[03:06] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj, Yes, but there are many differences and consequences when installing xscreensaver, nawk just want's the latice screensaver, not to replace gnome-screensaver ( though he may decide to do that also )
[03:09] <bcurtiswx> anyone know what happened to the lyrics plugin for banshee in 1.5.3 ?
[03:09] <bcurtiswx> is it just me?
[03:09] <jschall> userzy: you have to restore the windows boot loader using a windows disk.
[03:09] <tp43> I have been running ubuntu for about a week now.  I have had two crashes
[03:10] <gibby82> hi
[03:10] <tp43> it may be cairo or compiz
[03:10] <jschall> tp43: there's something wrong with your hardware or there's something wrong with your hardware drivers or your definition of "crash" is just too broad.
[03:10] <gibby82> can anyone help me with a display issue?
[03:11] <nawk> Jordan_U atm, I'm using gnome-screensaver.  Do many people prefer xscreensaver over gnome-screensaver?
[03:11] <tp43> jschall, when you put in the windows install cd, you can skip install and go to repair, and a command prompt.  Type fix mbr, and in will install windows boot loader
[03:12] <jschall> tp43: i didn't ask about that
[03:12] <savid> Uhhh..  why do I get "unknown host" when I do "ping localhost"
[03:12] <tp43> well, my screen freezes, and I can't move my mouse
[03:12] <jschall> tp43: also i think its "fixmbr," one word
[03:12] <tp43> I have to shutdown
[03:12] <jschall> tp43: start by testing memory with memtest
[03:13] <tp43> jschall, ok, lets see
[03:13] <jschall> tp43: then run mprime for a while (8-24 hours) with compiz or other compositing off
[03:13] <savid> my /etc/hosts shows <IP_ADDRESS>     localhost localhost.localdomain
[03:13] <Jordan_U> nawk, xscreensaver allows you to change the settings of individual screensavers, gnome-screensaver doesn't but integrates much better into Gnome.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | tp43
[03:13] <savid> why would localhost be not found??
[03:13] <voss749> Ok the saints have won the superbowl, if the cubs win the world series , then I will take 2012 seriously ;-)
[03:13] <fosser_josh> I have a laptop lenovo y500 and I installed ubuntu 9.10 but now problem is that sound is not proper, there is a sound but its like a noisy sound no clear sound from laptop speakers
[03:14] <lostinspace_46> While installing  farsight    I get this message...error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0     gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met:  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable These pkgs are installed, but I can't find the executables.  How do I deal with this?
[03:15] <_CommandeR_> need help with quake3. When launching from terminal with command quake3 i get sound but when doing a menu launcher the game is silent.
[03:15] <RPG-Master> OK, I'm playing a game, all is good, UNTIL the game randomly slows down and my CPU spikes. It'll stay like that until I close the game and open it again. This happens to just about anything that uses openGL
[03:15] <tp43> fosser_josh, that's crazy, maybe speaker is blown, is it brand new.  Sound usually works no problem.  Maybe it gets muted is the worst thing that could happen
[03:15] <gibby82> Trying to set an external monitor to 1280x1024. Toshiba notebook with Intel 945GMA, Ubuntu 9.10 x86. Currently just gives me an odd 1152x864 resolution
[03:15] <RPG-Master> Also, I'm using an NVIDIA card
[03:16] <fosser_josh> tp43: nah in external speakers sounds work fine but for internal speakers its giving problem
[03:16] <tp43> fosser_josh, oh, so I was right, your speakers are blown.  You bought it used?
[03:17] <mezquitale> RPG-Master, do you have anything else open at the same time?  I've seen the same problem with npviewerviewer.bin-- flash
[03:17] <charles__> anybody know what i may have done when formatting a drive partition to make it unmountable in  liveCD environment? is there some way i may have set a lock on the drive?
[03:17] <fosser_josh> its my friends laptop in xp speakers work fine but bow I Installed ubuntu its giving problem
[03:17] <jschall> fosser_josh: what i'd do is get alsamixer, go through and turn everything to half volume and see if it fixes the problem. sometimes max volume on certain things can cause distortion within the sound card.
[03:18] <fosser_josh> jschall: okh will see
[03:18] <gibby82> Trying to set an external monitor to 1280x1024. Toshiba notebook with Intel 945GMA, Ubuntu 9.10 x86. Currently just gives me an odd 1152x864 resolution
[03:19] <tp43> is there a way to make tpb program, for on-screen volume adjusting graphic, and screen brightness graphic run on startup, Cause I have to do xhost + and then sudo tpb & every boot
[03:19] <naxocore2000> a
[03:20] <charles__> lemme see if i can put this another way: is there some sort of partition ownership that you can set under linux?
[03:21] <mvsn> hello. wondering if someone could help me... im a little confused, i setup vsftp, got everything working, but anything i upload the permissions are set to 600, i cannot seem to find the place to change that setting.. and what should the setting be if im ftping to my web server?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> charles__, partition ownership ? Do you mean boot order /
[03:22] <ramiro> hi, how do I check if all files belonging to a package are properly installed?
[03:23] <Joundill> Hey, I need some help setting up my Pixel ProView bt878 PCI TV tuner card
[03:23] <BluesKaj> ramiro, run it in the cli , to check for errors
[03:23] <Joundill> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$ lspci | grep Bt878
[03:23] <Joundill> 02:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02)
[03:23] <Joundill> 02:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)
[03:23] <_CommandeR_> need help with quake3. When launching from terminal with command quake3 i get sound but when doing a menu launcher the game is silent.
[03:24] <charles__> BluesKaj: no, ubuntu boots up just fine and i have access to all of my drives and partitions. there is one partition, however, that i reformatted to ext4 (i'm coming over from xp). whenever i try to access the drive from any liveCD (as i go through different distros checking them out) the ext4 partition shows up in the file manager, but i cannot mount it to access the contents.
[03:24] <k0rn> Can someone answer a question for me about installing Ubuntu. I have used it before on AMD architecture. The download says AMD64. My question is im on a new box now that runs Intel Core 2 Duo. Will Ubuntu work with this?
[03:24] <slashcheese> hey guys, whats the best ubuntu iso for old laptop with 128mb ram?
[03:24] <mawst> GarbageCanix
[03:24] <ramiro> BluesKaj: run what in the cli?
[03:24] <Joundill> slash, I'd go for slackware with xfce, not Ubuntu :D
[03:24] <slashcheese> im looking at 32bit 9.10 iso , not sure if the netbook version works
[03:24] <BluesKaj> the package name , ramiro
[03:24] <mawst> Gentoo with CLI
[03:24] <mawst> :P
[03:24] <jschall> k0rn: amd64 refers to the 64-bit version of the x86 instruction set. so, yes.
[03:25] <ramiro> BluesKaj: I want to check all packages that are currently installed
[03:25] <k0rn> Ok Duh that makes sense
[03:25] <tp43> charles__, whats so great about ext4?  I still use 3
[03:25] <k0rn> thanks
[03:25] <Jordan_U> charles__, How are you trying to mount it and what happens when you do?
[03:25] <jschall> k0rn: its named that way because amd made the first 64-bit x86 processors.
[03:25] <slashcheese> i ran ubuntu 9.10 on a netbook and it runs fast with only 64mb ram
[03:25] <Joundill> Really, 64 mb?
[03:25] <Joundill> what DE?
[03:25] <tp43> slashcheese, all drivers?
[03:26] <slashcheese> runs beautiful on my dell mini9
[03:26] <k0rn> jschall: Thank you. I run Windows 7 64-bit on this laptop, but i also love ubuntu so its time to dual boot it.
[03:26] <charles__> tp43: i dunno, it just seemed like the thing to do
[03:26] <slashcheese> so i thought ..... install the ubuntu 9.10 netbook version on the old laptop and ???
[03:26] <k0rn> Nice Iso is done
[03:26] <slashcheese> anyone try this
[03:26] <jschall> k0rn: try kubuntu too =P
[03:27] <jschall> k0rn: i guarantee if you use kde 4.3 for long enough you'll fall in love
[03:27] <tp43> charles__, I did it too, well, it came by default and so I didn't change it, and then I was having grub boot issues, and I am not sure if they were related, or I did something else wrong, but I changed everything back to ext3
[03:27] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, he's trying to mount it from a live cd
[03:27] <ke1ha_> ext4 was written from scratch, where ext3 was basically upgraded ext3. with all the options enabled on ext3, ext4 performance is very close, and it's a mature fs, where as ext4 is not proven is all areas yet.
[03:27] <mrpink57_> slashcheese: it may work but the kernel has Im sure a few customizations for a netbook
[03:27] <ardchoille> !ot | jschall
[03:28] <Jordan_U> ke1ha_, ext4 was not written from scratch
[03:28] <charles__> Jordan_U: i go in through the file manager and click the drive like normal. all other drives mount just fine, except this one, which seems to either : A) dissappear from the list without warning or B) give me an error message which, sadly, i failed to write down
[03:28] <k0rn> jschall: I go to school for computer programming so a linux environment is ideal.
[03:28] <jschall> ardchoille: you realise that i just used 1 line to recommend kubuntu, and you just upped it to 3 and now made me respond, upping it to 4 lines.
[03:28] <ke1ha_> if you have ext3 already, it's questionable whether you should upgrade, but new installs, probably the best option.
[03:28] <tp43> I like to use gnome, cause it runs the macosx style docks better
[03:28] <jschall> ardchoille: all because you have a stick up your butt. 5 lines.
[03:28] <slashcheese> mrpink57: thats why Im asking this group. maybe Ill just do a usb live boot and test it out
[03:29] <tp43> But KDE was the reason I switched from debian, cause they still have kde 3.
[03:29] <voss749> I like to use gnome because kde 4 is a freakin mess
[03:29] <Jordan_U> charles__, Do you know how to mount via the terminal?
[03:29] <tp43> The desklets are better in kde though
[03:29] <jschall> voss749: i see gnome as a bit of a mess.
[03:29] <ardchoille> Let's take the KDE$ conversations to another channelplease
[03:30] <voss749> Gnome is now more like KDE 3 than KDE 4 is
[03:30] <slashcheese> wow, lots of discussions on desktops here. hahaha. reminds me of 1995 windows chat groups
[03:30] <ardchoille> *KDE4
[03:30] <charles__> Jordan_U: I.. should... i've been learning a lot of new stuff and sadly mounting was the first and i may have lost it already... one sec
[03:30] <tp43> voss749, I never noticed anything wrong with it, except the thing I mentioned already, macosx style docks run better on gnome
[03:30] <JabberWalkie> hey, so I have a program that needs to be pointed to a sound device like /dev/dsp...but im using pulse audio, what can I point it to?
[03:30] <tp43> slashcheese, I love the eye candy, I have cairo dock
[03:30] <jschall> ardchoille: although i can see how mentioning kde in a gnome channel can kinda snowball.
[03:31] <voss749> I dont mind eye candy but it should not effect performance.
[03:31] <nawk> Jordan_U: lattice is not there. :-(
[03:31] <tp43> I like the compiz interface too.  I have it set so I click mouse on the left edge to zoom out all my windows, and right edge window to alt-tab between windows
[03:31] <nawk> oh well
[03:31] <voss749> Im not fond of compiz either
[03:31] <jschall> voss749: eye candy will always effect performance.
[03:32] <tp43> voss749, It doesn't at all.  I have dual core, gig or ram, if I don't run it, that computing power will never get used
[03:32] <panfist> would a small private network (no internet connection at all) need a dns server?
[03:32] <toastedmilk> Anyone know how to enable direct rendering with the radeon driver in 8.04?
[03:32] <mandi> i have an old desktop that i just converted to ubuntu today, an old laptop that converted earlier in the week, and two other newer laptops that are currently still windows - i'd like to know the best way to share files, mostly with the old desktop as a storage place - any suggestions?
[03:33] <tp43> I could put my system monitors on, and it will max out just the same if I don't have these eye candy on.  But there were two system freezes I experience that I bet are caused by compiz and/or cairo-dock
[03:33] <Joundill> mandi, google samba
[03:33] <klappi> panfist: if you want the hosts to have names...
[03:33] <jschall> mandi: ubuntu will automatically configure samba for you and share your files with your windows computers
[03:33] <mandi> joundill & jschall: thx
[03:33] <lostinspace_46> In karmic which repo is farsight in?  I can't seem to find it.
[03:34] <jschall> mandi: just open nautilus (the gnome file browser) and right click on something you want to share.
[03:34] <mawst> Is cedega really required for gaming anymore or does wine do the trick
[03:34] <voss749> The main reason I use mint not 9.10 vanilla is because I like my task bar on the bottom not the top!
[03:34] <jschall> mandi: go to properties, sharing. just like windows =P
[03:34] <Krepta> Hello, I need help, I posted on ubuntu forum, and no response yet.
[03:34] <jschall> voss749: o.O you can just drag it.
[03:34] <tp43> well you need compiz to run cairo-dock,
[03:34] <Joundill> jschall, mandi wants to share Ubuntu - Windoze
[03:34] <tp43> who is the commercial backing of Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Joundill> voss749, you can move the task bar.
[03:34] <koshari> mandi samba
[03:35] <Krepta> Canonical
[03:35] <voss749> jschall, well mint is more stable in general but its the little things I like
[03:35] <jschall> Joundill: i know
[03:35] <jschall> Joundill: that's how it works in ubuntu iirc, i'm on kubuntu though.
[03:35] <tp43> voss749, lol, what is mint anyway?
[03:35] <Krepta> a plant
[03:35] <jschall> tp43: an ubuntu-based distro
[03:35] <voss749> tp43, a ubuntu variant
[03:35] <tp43> oh,
[03:35] <koshari> voss749 how do you determine mint is more "stable" ?
[03:35] <tp43> let me check it out
[03:35] <voss749> I run ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop and mint 8 on my laptop
[03:35] <Joundill> jschall: ahh :D
[03:35] <mandi> also, can anyone tell me how to resize vista for a dual-boot set up?
[03:36] <jschall> i haven't used mint but i would guess its less stable but has more tweaking into it
[03:36] <mrpink57_> tp43: i think the best way to describe it is what Ubuntu would be when it is full on mainstream
[03:36] <jschall> mandi: the ubuntu disk will do it for you.
[03:36] <k0rn> hmm new problem
[03:36] <koshari> mandi use gparted, remeber as always backup any critical data before attempting partitioning
[03:36] <klappi> jschall: i havent used mint so i dont make guesses about it
[03:36] <Krepta> Even if it is NTFS5?
[03:36] <jschall> mandi: you install windows and then install ubuntu and the ubuntu installer will give you options to resize partitions
[03:36] <k0rn> Windows 7 disk image burner is telling me the image is not valid
[03:37] <Joundill> Does anybody know how to turn off these "X has left the room" messages?
[03:37] <Joundill> I'm in Pidgin
[03:37] <jschall> Krepta: i would assume so. i haven't tried dual booting with windows (which i don't use) in a long time.
[03:37] <Krepta> I'm on the webchat app
[03:37] <tp43> mrpink57_ huh?  what do you mean, or are you talking about 'it'
[03:37] <mrpink57_> tp43: Mint
[03:37] <Krepta> All of the tools I've used to rezise partitions don't allow resizing of NTFS5 partitions, I don't know if the newest gparted can do it.
[03:38] <tp43> mrpink57, oh, how is mint so mainstream?
[03:38] <koshari> Joundill tools > plugins, jin/leave notifier
[03:38] <jschall> Joundill: do you really want to be left hanging wondering why someone has stopped talking to you?
[03:38] <Joundill> thanks
[03:38] <Joundill> jschall: sorry?
[03:38] <Krepta> I like knowing I'm not being ignored
[03:39] <Jordan_U> JabberWalkie, What program?   I thought gparted would, but ...shrugs.
[03:39] <Krepta> I'm having trouble getting windows vista to print to a canon pixma mp510 connected and shared from a desktop running ubuntu 9.10.  It was working fine two days ago.  Now, it sais access denied, cannot connect.
[03:39] <jschall> Joundill: if you can't see people leaving, then i could leave right now and you wouldn't know if i was ignoring you or had left the room
[03:39] <Viper1432> parted magic WILL do what you want with that ntfs partition though.
[03:39] <Krepta> I'm really getting frustrated.
[03:39] <Joundill> jschall: lol, fair 'nuff
[03:39] <Krepta> I've used partition magic, great tool, still can't resize ntfs5
[03:39] <tp43> mrpink57, I did, I checked out there web site, I dunno, so many distros, Ubuntu is going good for me
[03:40] <jschall> bastid_raZor: how am i an ass, or stupid?
[03:40] <Krepta> wait, huh?
[03:40] <Joundill> I've got a rather big question to ask :P
[03:40] <mrpink57_> tp43: im not asking you to change, they just add a lot of additional non-free stuff
[03:40] <Joundill> I want to install my Pixelview Prolink TV tuner PCI card
[03:40] <tp43> But when debian does their next release, I will definitely try it and maybe switch back.  cause they have acpi all messed up these days, and I can't fix it
[03:40] <Krepta> If anyone can help me with the network printing problem I'm having, that would be Really awesome.
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Krepta, Gparted can resize ntfs, you just need ntfsprogs installed.
[03:40] <`mOOse`> wait - let me get the life-rescue-inflatable-matress then Joundill
[03:40] <panfist> is synaptic multithreaded? would turning on hyperthreading on a single core processor increase performance? I ask because I have a 3.0GHz p4 with 1GB of RAM, and it hangs for over 30 seconds every time I mark a package to install
[03:41] <tp43> mrpink57, oh really, I like the sound of that, like what though
[03:41] <Krepta> jordan_u, excellent, that's what I wanted to know. :)
[03:41] <Jordan_U> Krepta, np :)
[03:41] <mrpink57_> tp43: read their site and google about Mint to see the changes maybe a Ubuntu vs Mint
[03:41] <Krepta> Now if only I could make this stupid windblowz vista print.
[03:41] <`mOOse`> panfist, welcome to linux
[03:41] <jschall> Krepta: i would look for logs on the linux machine.
[03:42] <k0rn> Krepta: upgrade to 7 if u can its great
[03:42] <mrpink57_> panfist: hyperthreading is going to improve since it tells the system you have two cores therefore more can be done.
[03:42] <Arsin> Can someone help me out with FahMon
[03:42] <Krepta> Linux reports nothing, as if nothing is even reaching it... where do I find the logs?
[03:42] <JabberWalkie> Jordan_U: running Quake 1
[03:42] <mrpink57_> Krepta: /var
[03:42] <jschall> `mOOse`: it doesn't hang for me. in fact, nothing does. ever.
[03:42] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to fix a deleted kernel image?
[03:42] <Krepta> K0rn, can't, it's mom's laptop
[03:42] <tp43> I like debian cause they are very stable and fast, but I wanna install the best software free, open or proprietary.  I respect their software, and will be installing their bsd version as soon as it out and eventually hurd if ever.
[03:42] <Krepta> brb, looking up logs
[03:42] <jschall> Krepta: http://oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch09_01.html
[03:43] <voss749> tp43, mint is ubuntu with all the codecs pre installed among other things and its green...and the bar is on the bottom :)
[03:43] <tp43> mrpink57, I dunno, I can't imagine what else they could offer, I already have everything
[03:43] <jschall> Krepta: i think sharing printers with windows uses samba, right?
[03:43] <tp43> voss749, lol. what codecs
[03:43] <voss749> tp43 dvd playing
[03:43] <`mOOse`> jschall, synaptic doesn't lag your machine at ALL?
[03:43] <tp43> voss749, I just apt-get installed mplayer, no problem, and I can play dvd's
[03:43] <panfist> mtpink57_ that's only true for program which are multithreaded, and on a single core hyperthreaded pc, io bound
[03:43]  * `mOOse` is skeptical
[03:43] <jschall> `mOOse`: i use kde
[03:43] <BrainDance> hey I have another problem. In LXDE on Lubuntu I started moving some things to my desktop, everything works fine except for firefox, firefox has test there and an area to click on, but no icon. I put it there by dragging it from the lxpanel (where it has an icon) and also tried changing the icon of the shortcut in lxpanel that I drag from, and nothing. No matter what I do no icon, so whats up with that? Any way I can manually force
[03:43] <BrainDance> an icon on it? Or other reason its not showing up?
[03:44] <jschall> `mOOse`: but i'll install synaptic now
[03:44] <ekim1> Krepta, tp43: linux mint is pretty good.  I have it installed and it is alittle more refined with less stuff included with the install but there if you need to install it.  I guess the say it is a "chopped down" version of Ubuntu.
[03:44] <ke1ha_> Jordan_I: I was generalizing, nothing is "from scratch" ... but compared to ext3 and it's cluge, its a fresh solution.
[03:44] <voss749> tp43, im talking about like libdvdcss
[03:44] <`mOOse`> what's kde use - yast?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> JabberWalkie, Try running "padsp quake" ( or whatever the binary is called ).
[03:44] <BrainDance> the properties box for the shortcut gave me no help, and few options at that
[03:44] <`mOOse`> or is that suse?
[03:44] <Joundill> jschall, Krepta yeah, sharing printers linux-windoze uses samba
[03:44] <JabberWalkie> Jordan_U: k, ill try that
[03:44] <tp43> voss749, hmmm, you can just add non-free to your sources and you are same as mint then
[03:44] <BrainDance> tried going into my desktop forlder as root and seeing what I can do, nothing new
[03:44] <BrainDance> so I'm out of ideas
[03:45] <jschall> `mOOse`: yast is for rpm i think
[03:45] <ekim1> Krepta, mrpink57_;  Krepta sorry wrong guy, meant for mrpink
[03:45] <jschall> `mOOse`: kubuntu seems to use kpackagekit
[03:45] <Joundill> `mOOse`: Suse uses yast
[03:45] <BrainDance> Is there a way to build my own shortcut on the lxde desktop that has an icon and points to firefox? Sort of manually recreate it?
[03:45] <jschall> `mOOse`: i tend to use aptitude or apt-get, though.
[03:46] <Joundill> BrainDance: yes there is
[03:46] <manpreet> Hi
[03:46] <voss749> tp43, also wifi works out of the box.
[03:46] <manpreet> I want to uninstall ubuntu and install windows
[03:46] <manpreet> please help
[03:46] <Joundill> BrainDance: first open terminal
[03:46] <voss749> Its just minty :)
[03:46] <BrainDance> Joundill, how do I go about doing that? I assumed it'd be a right click option but for "Create new" all I have are "text document" or "folder"
[03:46] <Paradox> anyone here the maintainer of the ChannelManager plugin?
[03:46] <BrainDance> alright, terminals up
[03:46] <Paradox> (supybot)
[03:47] <jschall> `mOOse`: i'll test removing and reinstalling openoffice in synaptic. it's reasonably large. unless there's a better test you have for me?
[03:47] <Joundill> Braindance: type in firefox
[03:47] <tp43> voss749, yeah, in debian I had to install wifi separately, but in Ubuntu "it installed out of the box"
[03:47] <johnn> I am trying to get my svideo out working with karmic and a radeon x1400
[03:47] <Joundill> BrainDance: see if that opens it
[03:47] <BrainDance> alright it opened it
[03:47] <BrainDance> opened firefox that is
[03:47] <Joundill> Ok, that's all good then
[03:47] <Joundill> close that
[03:47] <Joundill> 1 minute, googling
[03:47] <Paradox> well, if they see this, please msg me
[03:47] <Paradox> thank you
[03:47] <manpreet> Please help in uninstalling Ubuntu
[03:47] <johnn> when i install fglrx i lose my windows manager
[03:47] <BrainDance> Betas of operating systems are fun, but not at 11 at night :P
[03:47] <tp43> well, see guys, nice chatting with yas, have a good night
[03:48] <`mOOse`> jschall,  no - that would be good ;-)
[03:48] <voss749> tp43, I just found it funny how ubuntu 9.10 NBR broke the wifi on my dell mini 9 until I manually downloaded a fix
[03:48] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to fix a deleted kernel image?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> manpreet, Did you install as a dual boot, or did you install over windows?
[03:49] <manpreet> I installed ubuntu over windows 7
[03:49] <jschall> `mOOse`: so far on the removal, i searched for it and selected it for removal completely smoothly. no lag on synaptic's interface or any other part of the system.
[03:49] <tp43> voss749, oh, it was ok for me.  I guess lots of linux people buy ibm laptops so its a bit easier.
[03:49] <manpreet> I wanted to switch over to windows XP
[03:49] <voss749> 9.10 was rushed
[03:49] <mrpink57_> manpreet: a kittie just died because you said that
[03:49] <Krepta> I'm in /var/log have no idea what to look for.  Cups logs, Samba logs, what?
[03:50] <johnn> how do I get a dual-monitor going with an x1400? fglrx isn't working for me
[03:50] <jschall> `mOOse`: finished the removal, reloading the database took about 3-5 seconds
[03:50] <`mOOse`> congratulations jschall  :-)
[03:50] <Krepta> I really hope I won't have to replace ubuntu with a pirated XP, I really want this to work.
[03:50] <voss749> tp43, My compaq laptop had an atheros wifi so it was ok.
[03:50] <jschall> `mOOse`: and now i'm installing it again! seems to be smooth to me. maybe you need to upgrade your hardware.
[03:50] <tp43> voss749, cool
[03:51] <voss749> I just wind up these days sticking atheros chipsets in everything...works for me
[03:51] <songer> kreator,  what's yor problem?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> manpreet, Then since you will have to install windows anyway, just tell it to use the entire drive and it will install over Ubuntu
[03:51] <tp43> voss749, talk to you later if you around, I am gonna watch an indian movie now
[03:51] <Arsin> Can someone help me out with F@H
[03:51] <voss749> tp43, which one???
[03:51] <Jordan_U> manpreet, You may want to back up your documents somewhere of course
[03:51] <tp43> voss749, stiker
[03:51] <manpreet> I rebooted my computer and tried to boot from CD it is not using that option
[03:52] <manpreet> Yeah Jordan, I have backed up all the documents
[03:52] <Krepta> setup BIOS
[03:52] <jschall> tp43: american indian movie or a movie from india?
[03:52] <mushy1> hey i installed ubuntu9 on my computer and i forgot everything linux, everything worked right off the bat even whireless but the sound doesnt work
[03:52] <voss749> you mean striker?
[03:52] <voss749> bollywood
[03:52] <mushy1> what do i do to fix sound
[03:52] <tp43> voss749, you heard of it.  Hey I love that song from de danna dan, and also that song from that bipashu movie about time travel.  I am from Canada born in Pakistan
[03:52] <mushy1> its an onboard soundcard and i know the sound worked on olderversions of ubuntu and freebsd
[03:52] <gunawan> any body,i need help
[03:52] <jschall> mushy1: check that everything is turned up in the sound settings.
[03:53] <jschall> mushy1: to start with.
[03:53] <Krepta> I also have sound issues, but that's on the laptop at home, I realy need to figure out why windows vista won't print anymore to ubuntu 9.10
[03:53] <tp43> karam board movie
[03:53] <ZykoticK9> mushy1, this "might" help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:53] <`mOOse`> join the elite!
[03:53] <`mOOse`> jschall, all donations accepted
[03:53] <voss749> tp43, im like the only american anglo bollywood fan in my town
[03:53] <tp43> voss749, I like lots of foreign movies
[03:53] <Krepta> Yay, ubuntu is here!
[03:53] <johnn> anyone have experience with the mobility x1400? I'm trying to use my svideo out.
[03:54] <Krepta> Ah, hello teffers
[03:54] <voss749> Its me and like 50 indian peeps at the local bollywood films
[03:54] <manpreet> I have around 450 GB space left, can I use dual boot option as WINDOWS XP
[03:54] <tp43> voss749, what city
[03:54] <voss749> boca raton
[03:54] <manpreet> I have install Ubuntu first
[03:54] <ardchoille> !ot | voss749 tp43
[03:54] <tp43> my bad
[03:54] <mushy1> by default what color should the headphones or speakers go into
[03:54] <tp43> c ya laters dudes
[03:54] <Krepta> windows hates sharing with other OSes, unless you trick it with boot magic
[03:55] <mushy1> green or orange
[03:55] <voss749> c ya later
[03:55] <devrethman> mushy1: usually green
[03:55] <jschall> manpreet: in order to do that you have to resize your ubuntu partition first, install windows, then go back with an ubuntu livecd and reinstall grub.
[03:55] <teffers> hey guys i am having some issues with broadcom drivers
[03:55] <panfist> ok for the record disabling hyperthreading increased my performance in synaptic majorly...i would estimate around 90% if not more
[03:55] <devrethman> mushy1: although alsa has been known to mix them up.
[03:55] <johnn> anyone have experience with the mobility x1400? I'm trying to use my svideo out.
[03:56] <teffers> anyone delt with them before i heard ther nutoriously buggy
[03:56] <devrethman> teffers: Yeah, but I did not win the battle.
[03:56] <manpreet> Jshall, that's what I am trying to do, however it is not recognizing the windows CD after reboot.
[03:56] <devrethman> so I cannot help you.
[03:56] <mushy1> hrmm weird it works
[03:56] <jschall> panfist: disabling or enabling?
[03:56] <mushy1> i guess one of the updates fixed it
[03:56] <panfist> disabling
[03:56] <mushy1> <3 how easy linux has gotten
[03:56] <`mOOse`> you mean you DOWNGRADED your CPU performance and it's working BETTER panfist ?
[03:56] <`mOOse`> *remarkable!*
[03:56] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[03:57] <jschall> manpreet: are you certain its set to boot from cd first?
[03:57] <devrethman> Not all programs that can multithread do it gracefully.
[03:57] <teffers> i got whayt apears to think its an eth card but has all wireless attributes which is super anoying
[03:57] <johnn> I am trying to get my svideo out working with karmic and a radeon x1400
[03:57] <panfist> well moose you must admit there are situations where multithreaded is useful even on a single core
[03:57] <manpreet> Jshall : Yeah, I selected from BIOS
[03:57] <panfist> i find that no multithreading is better most of the time even on a shitty pentium 4
[03:57] <`mOOse`> yes, and I'm being sarcastic pan ;-)
[03:57] <panfist> i know and im just saying that you can't universally deride hyperthreading
[03:58] <mushy1> random question probably wrong place but has wine gotten dx9 and older games nearly perfect?
[03:58] <ZykoticK9> ioquake3 giving error that "Point Release files are missing.  Please re-install the 1.32 point release" but Points is installed & working but no sound (expected longstanding issue)
[03:58] <jschall> mushy1: wrong place. go to #winehq
[03:58] <jschall> mushy1: it works ok for a lot of games.
[03:58] <hapik> hello
[03:59] <jschall> mushy1: for example, eve online is dx9 and it works fine. i wouldn't try it, it is unbelievably boring.
[03:59] <isidro1> hi, a program crash in x mode, then i get into console mode to get the logon x mode, is this posible???
[03:59] <meowbuntu> hi how can i check what processes are running on my cumputer from terminal
[03:59] <mushy1> well i bought a lot of cheap games from half priced books
[03:59] <devrethman> mushy1: it has DX9 down pretty well, but there's more to games than DX
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, "ps aux"
[03:59] <seanbrystone> meowbuntu, top
[03:59] <mushy1> i got morrowind which used to look perfect besides the water
[03:59] <hapik> how can I add a starting option for default web-browser?
[04:00] <manpreet> Jschall : I tried to went to the grub tried to use fdisk command, however it is not accepting that
[04:00] <mushy1> im trying to play one now called hammer and sickle
[04:00] <devrethman> hapik: right click on the icon and hit properties
[04:00] <mushy1> which installs i just stopped because sound didnt work
[04:00] <mushy1> but now it seems to
[04:00] <mushy1> QUESTION RELATED: say sound works great, but doesnt work for some reason under wine
[04:00] <devrethman> mushy1: #winehq would know much better than we would.
[04:00] <mushy1> is that a wine problem
[04:00] <jschall> manpreet: the grub recovery console is not linux.
[04:00] <mushy1> is winehq on his server
[04:01] <mushy1> is this the ubuntu server
[04:01] <devrethman> mushy1: it might be a wine problem, but the wine channel would be able to tell you if it is or not
[04:01] <johnn> is there another chat server that might know the answer to my video card question
[04:01] <hapik> devrethman: it will work only with browser started with icon, not with browser being called from different applications
[04:01] <devrethman> mushy1: this is a freenode server, so yeah, wine is here.
[04:01] <devrethman> hapik: Oh... I don't know then.
[04:02] <mushy1> is ub 9.04 or 9.4 or whatever this version a beta or is it full
[04:02] <isidro1> how i can kill processes fron console mode????
[04:02] <acalbaza> how do i change my screen resolution for the command line?
[04:02] <ZykoticK9> isidro1, "kill $PID" or "killall $PROCESSNAME"
[04:03] <devrethman> isidrol: killall <process name> or ps -e followed by kill <PID>
[04:03] <isidro1> thanks
[04:03] <johnn> anyone have experience with the mobility x1400? I'm trying to use my svideo out.
[04:03] <manpreet> jschall : Is there any way to format the hard drive. Like booting to the command line after the system is restarted
[04:04] <nabian> mplayer whit gui is smplayer?
[04:04] <becker_11> I'm setting up #irssi and want to set it to connect automatically at startup but in the text here http://pastebin.com/m23229f9b is the <nick> it wants my nick or to identify the server I'm adding?
[04:04] <nabian> mplayer whit gui is smplayer?
[04:05] <becker_11> nabian: that or someone with interesting hobbies
[04:05] <isidro1> how i can get "logon x" from console mode???
[04:05] <hapik> nabian: it depends, can be gnome mplayer
[04:05] <johnn> whatever
[04:05] <binari0> hello
[04:05] <titan_ark> thegeekyhaxor, hey