[21:04] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, clamav, avast and avg i think both have linux clients.
[21:04] <Scunizi> Reformer81: signatures are signatures.. most are geared toward windows virus's..
[21:04] <rohan> hi if anyone can - which package shud i use to install a tv on ubuntu 8.04
[21:04] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, mcafee i think has one too
[21:05] <TiredWolf> !tv > rohan
[21:05] <Reformer81> Alrighty... thanks.
[21:05] <Scunizi> Reformer81: I think that avast on linux will run via terminal.
[21:05] <Reformer81> Hmm... I see a KDE frontend for clamav, but not a GTK one.
[21:06] <arrrghhh> Reformer81, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Live_Distros and look at rescue & repair
[21:06] <linxeh> Reformer81: try clamtk
[21:06] <mrtin> does ubuntu support fingerprint readers?
[21:06] <arrrghhh> hiren's is actually really good... but it definitely includes warez.
[21:06] <linxeh> mrtin: you think those things actually work ? :o
[21:07] <Chiarina> ciao
[21:07] <mrtin> linxeh, they do pretty well acctually
[21:07] <Chiarina> !list
[21:07] <cxo> What's chkconfig on ubuntu?
[21:07] <myubu> Hello, Im installing ubuntu, and I only have 640 MB of ram, what would be a good amount of swap for this, so i can gain performance?
[21:07] <cxo> 640mb of ram is plenty
[21:07] <Flannel> myubu: 2x or 1.5x
[21:08] <cxo> my machine has been up for 34 days, and i'm only using 10mb of swap
[21:08] <mrtin> myubu, 510 mb maybe
[21:08] <cxo> and i'm running 2 virtual machines
[21:08] <cxo> you wouldnt need more than 100mb
[21:08] <ManualOverDozer8> myubu: i have 512 of RAM and it seems to run fine, although more should be better
[21:09] <rohan> i have 1 gb ram and swap is 2 gb
[21:09] <rohan> ubuntu runs like a charm
[21:09] <ryan_> i have 2gb ram 2.3gb swap
[21:09] <ManualOverDozer8> i forget where to adjust the swaps, info please
[21:09] <Flannel> myubu: Either 960 (1.5xRAM) or 1280 (2xRAM) is standard
[21:09] <arrrghhh> !swap
[21:09] <linxeh> mrtin: no they dont, most can be fooled
[21:10] <ryan_> runs great but also running off portable hard drive
[21:10] <cxo> This is not windows people
[21:10] <arrrghhh> go there :P
[21:10] <arrrghhh> you don't need that much swap
[21:10] <arrrghhh> unless you have little ram
[21:10] <bunz> 2xram is for old days
[21:10] <cxo> linux will never ever use the swap unless it really has too
[21:10] <bunz> i got 4gb i use virtual no swap
[21:10] <linxeh> arrrghhh: how do you know? I've got 128GB swap on a box at work
[21:10] <rohan> thast what the ubuntu page mentions in idela scenario
[21:10] <bunz> would be stupid to make 8gb swap partition
[21:10] <mrtin> linxeh, i have one, it works ok
[21:10] <arrrghhh> linxeh, well you have to monitor your swap usage....
[21:10] <TiredWolf> mrtin, i suspect not out of the box. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/T4220 says "Fingerprint reader (supported by aes2501-wy and libfprint)" among "What does not work out-of-the-box and is solved"
[21:10] <joel__> HOW CAN I UNRAR WITH LINUX ?
[21:10] <alan_m> bunz, agreed..ubuntu generally makes the right choice for you so you dont have to tweak your swap later ;)
[21:10] <alan_m> !caps | joe_
[21:11] <TiredWolf> !rar > joel__
[21:11] <cxo> you dont need more than 100mb for a general purpose workstation
[21:11] <Sydero> I can't even find my swap partition :S
[21:11] <rohan> instal the package unrar
[21:11] <rohan> from synaptic
[21:11] <linxeh> arrrghhh: indeed, we have 128GB of ram on that box and often more than 100GB in a single process (with multiple processes up to that size around)
[21:11] <mrtin> TiredWolf, thanks man ill ckeck that out
[21:11] <cxo> How do you turn on/ off services at boot up with 8.04 ?
[21:11] <arrrghhh> linxeh, i don't think my swap was ever touched even on 1gb of ram
[21:11] <TiredWolf> cxo, Linux will use swap quite often even when it technically really doesn't have to, spare us the misconceptions, and #ubuntu-offtopic if it's not support
[21:11] <linxeh> arrrghhh: :-)
[21:11] <myubu> wow, thanks for the replies, everyone, well since this machine is ancient old, I'm running pc chips Amptron m810lmr and Duron 800 with pc 100 - 133 memory.
[21:11] <Sydero> well there's the /etc/rcx.d directories
[21:11] <rohan> go to system-services
[21:11] <Sydero> and /etc/init.d directories
[21:12] <cxo> TiredWolf, i beg to differ, that information is incorrect
[21:12] <Flannel> !bum | cxo
[21:12] <ryan_> same ive never seen my swap touched
[21:12] <arrrghhh> i've heard half your memory if you have 1gb_
[21:12] <arrrghhh> +
[21:12] <TiredWolf> cxo: then join #ubuntu-offtopic and we can discuss it
[21:12] <cxo> isnt that linux related?
[21:12] <TiredWolf> cxo: this is a SUPPORT channel, it's not an "anything linux related" channel
[21:13] <cxo> ok
[21:13] <rohan> please refer --- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq --- section -- How much swap do I need?
[21:13] <cxo> Nevertheless i'm not going to debate something I know for a fact is incorrect
[21:13] <myubu> will i have a performance issue with these specs?
[21:13] <arrrghhh> i still want to know how to change the monitor timeout settings for gdm login screen!
[21:13] <TiredWolf> rohan: as much as you have RAM. unless you have a tiny amount of RAM (for nowadays standards), i doubt you'd need more.
[21:13] <Flannel> myubu: No
[21:13] <bunz> myubu: it all depends on what you will be doing on it. for web browsing and lurking in irc probably not :P
[21:14] <rohan> hmm ok
[21:14] <rohan> i will try that next time with my installation :)
[21:14] <ManualOverDozer8> gpart used to make/enable swaps
[21:14] <ManualOverDozer8> ?
[21:14] <rohan> Triedwolf -- so ideally what do think if i allot nothing to swap?
[21:15] <TiredWolf> rohan: i think that is very bad.
[21:15] <myubu> and is it best to use the onboard graphics sis 630 graphics or the pci  agp 9600 ati 128mb card?
[21:15] <rohan> hmmm ubuntu deosn't allot anything by default as far as i know am i correct
[21:15] <bunz> as long as that card is supported the ati is your best shot
[21:15] <TiredWolf> rohan: Linux favors swapping out applications to allow for more filecaching space, and it does that for pretty sound reasons, and that's independent of how much RAM you have. also, you need at least as much swap as you have RAM if you want to use hibernation.
[21:16] <rohan> aha thats a valid point
[21:16] <Muntrue> Guys, i want to experiment with Python programming. So i snuffed out the following 2 apps Python-glade2 and Python-gtk2. They are both installed but i cant run them. Whats up ?
[21:16] <Sydero> how do I determine the size of swap?
[21:16] <TiredWolf> what's with swap today?
[21:16] <unop> Sydero, swapon -s
[21:16] <ere4si> arrrghhh: from here - http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/alt.os.linux.suse/2006-07/msg00138.html - turning off xgl will let the login screen blank
[21:16] <sabaoer> Hello.. I wonder what kind of /etc interface there are in Ubuntu for keeping track on whether there are an running internet connection
[21:16] <sabaoer> sorry for my broken english ;-)
[21:17] <unop> Sydero, or cat /proc/swaps
[21:17] <rohan> just a general discussion regarding swap - we can change the topic as well :)
[21:17] <soloturn> hi
[21:17] <sabaoer> the thing is that I use Firefox (3.0, some beta version) and an alternative connection app
[21:17] <obake-san> hey, i just updated my kernel in hardy, and the grub failed to load so i had to point out where to load ubuntu in the grub editor, and now my graphics card is suddenly not working. nvidia no longer shows up in the hardware drivers, and i have no idea how to set it up. any help would be appreciated
[21:17] <Sydero> hmmm my swap is 2000 MB :/
[21:17] <arrrghhh> ere4si, well the monitor turns off eventually.  it goes black and then turns off after 40 mins or so.
[21:17] <myubu> okay, so  640mb of ram i have, what should my swap be?
[21:18] <unop> sabaoer, what kind of information are you after?
[21:18] <Muntrue> Guys, i want to experiment with Python programming. So i snuffed out the following 2 apps Python-glade2 and Python-gtk2. They are both installed but i cant run them. Whats up ?
[21:18] <jester_> Muntrue:  probably a better question for the python channels, but i'll give a quick point in the direction.  The python-gtk2 (and i'd guess glade2) are just packages that let you import the functionality of GTK2 and glade (which are actually rather separate window environments i think) so there's really nothing to "run".  rather you import stuff, and use it appropriately
[21:18] <myubu> about 100mb
[21:18] <rohan> uninstall everything called nvidia and then there is something called envy use that it will auto detect the card
[21:18] <arrrghhh> ere4si, but kde it turns the monitor off right away, after 20 mins or whatever i have it set to.  i'd like gdm login screen to turn the monitor off after 5 mins or so.
[21:18] <rohan> and install the driver
[21:18] <unop> Muntrue, those are python libraries to be used in your python scripts
[21:18] <fen> Muntrue:purge them and then reinstall
[21:18] <unop> fen, err no
[21:19] <sabaoer> unop, the thing is that Firefox works in offline mode even if the connection is online
[21:19] <arrrghhh> myubu, i'd say 512-1024mb depending on your space constraints.
[21:19] <jester_> Muntrue:  Sorry for the very vague question, but my actual experience with that is about nilch, i just have a notion of what you need
[21:19] <ManualOverDozer8> my swapfile 643mb (via guided install, whole drive ubuntu)
[21:19] <jester_> vague answer, im an idiot :)
[21:19] <sabaoer> unop, so I wonder how Firefox determines that in ubuntu :-)
[21:19] <SubZeRo666[NL]> Hi Guys, i have a very strange problem. When i install ubuntu on HD, after reboot i get a complete system hang after POST screen. Complete black screen, no harddisk activity. It is also not possible to select to boot from CD-ROM. When i connect same harddisk via usb, zero the disk and put it back, than i can boot again from the cd. It seems that BIOS hangs on reading the MBR of the disk or something. How can i make grub as verbose as p
[21:19] <myubu> my space is 80gb and my ram is only 640mb
[21:19] <unop> sabaoer, yea, you'll either have to set network manager to use the other connection as the default - how that is done i do not know as i don't use gnome
[21:20] <ere4si> arrrghhh: I found little else about that with google - is it your setup perhaps?
[21:20] <Muntrue> unop, jester_ Makes sense, but i got this webpage im looking at and they run the app GLADE. Maybe i got it completely wrong (no idea whatsoever about python) take a look if you will and tell me im crazy :) http://www.learningpython.com/2006/05/07/creating-a-gui-using-pygtk-and-glade/
[21:20] <arrrghhh> myubu, i'd say make it 1gb swap then.
[21:20] <Flannel> myubu: Go ahead and double up your RAM then.  1280MB swap
[21:20] <fen> unop: sorry ge said he snuffed them
[21:20] <Sydero> Create a swap of 10x your ram ;)
[21:20] <arrrghhh> ere4si, i guess.  i use kde, but other users use gnome.  and gdm works better as a login manager!
[21:20] <Flannel> Sydero: That'll do absolutely no good
[21:20] <unop> Muntrue, you want the glade and glade-gnome packages for the actual glade gui
[21:20] <Sydero> it could be ;)
[21:21] <rohan> what is the best way of learnig the networkin stuff - i mean any manuals guides ?
[21:21] <unop> !info glade
[21:21] <Muntrue> unop, Ill check that out! thanks !
[21:21] <unafilliated> !info zimbra
[21:21] <FAJALOU1> hi my computer just froze up and i had to re boot,,, i am running 2 ndiswrapper drivers, nvidia gpu, and a 1 ghz mobo,  is there any way why i can check  it did this?
[21:21] <myubu> okay, thanks, Flannel,arrrghhh, and everyone else i forgot to mention!!
[21:21] <arrrghhh> rohan, howstuffworks is a great place to start
[21:21] <jester_> Muntrue:  Warned you I was an idiot :)  ok, have you run "glade-2" from the terminal.  I spaced that glade was the dev environment
[21:21] <fen> Question: how to I export a CUPS printer to another Ubunto box on the same subnet
[21:22] <Muntrue> jester_, I think i have to install the glade package for the actual program. Gonna check the python channel to see if i need 1 ,2 or 3 lol
[21:22] <rohan> ok thanks a lot
[21:22] <fen> It is a Canon Printer, to I only want the Canon drivers on the Server, not the client
[21:22] <jester_> Muntrue:  sounds like the right move.  I just pulled an "apt-get install glade" and it pulled 2 down and it runs like a charm, just did it to verify
[21:23] <fen> join #gentoo
[21:23] <Muntrue> jester_, I cant enter the python channel lol, thats stupid
[21:23] <obake-san> hey, i just updated my kernel in hardy, and the grub failed to load so i had to point out where to load ubuntu in the grub editor, and now my graphics card is suddenly not working. nvidia no longer shows up in the hardware drivers, and i have no idea how to set it up. any help would be appreciated
[21:23] <TiredWolf> Muntrue: you sure can enter, just register to freenode
[21:23] <Flannel> obake-san: Load an old kernel
[21:23] <Sydero> obake-san: are you sure you pointed to the correct kernel?
[21:24] <TiredWolf> !register > Muntrue
[21:24] <SubZeRo666[NL]> Hi Guys, i have a very strange problem. When i install ubuntu on HD, after reboot i get a complete system hang after POST screen. Complete black screen, no harddisk activity. It is also not possible to select to boot from CD-ROM. When i connect same harddisk via usb, zero the disk and put it back, than i can boot again from the cd. It seems that BIOS hangs on reading the MBR of the disk or something. How can i make grub as verbose as p
[21:24] <natalisushka> Hello guys, I am having a strange error message whenever I try to go sudo : sudo: unable to resolve host natalisushka-laptop  .. This doesn't prevent me from using root however! What does this mean? What can I do to solve it?
[21:24] <Muntrue> TiredWolf, Gotcha
[21:24] <Flannel> !hostname | natalisushka
[21:24] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: have you checked System/Administration/Hardware ?
[21:24] <Flannel> natalisushka: Also, you shouldn't be using the root account.
[21:24] <obake-san> yes, no restricted drivers show up, despite having nvidia-glx-new installed
[21:25] <natalisushka> Flannel, Why not?
[21:25] <ere4si> I set up one dapper box and used dd to set up 2 others - I've now upgraded one box to hardy and want to use its' /var/cache/apt/archives to upgrade the other two boxes - is this possible?
[21:25] <Flannel> natalisushka: Because sudo does everything you'd ever need to do, and disabling the root account is more secure.
[21:25] <Flannel> !sudo | natalisushka
[21:25] <Faust-C> what do youi guys use to burn movies ?
[21:25] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: how about looking in Synaptic Package Manager to see you have all the files required ?
[21:25] <Flannel> ere4si: Yes, although in the future you might want to look into apt-proxy
[21:26] <rohan> gnomebaker - nero
[21:26] <Gillpy> Faust-C: cdrecord
[21:26] <Flannel> ere4si: Either do it manually, or take the easy route, and use AptOnCD
[21:26] <jbroome> !clone > ere4si
[21:26] <obake-san> i have everything required
[21:26] <Faust-C> rohan, gnomebaker? i looked at it and all it had was audio, and data
[21:26] <natalisushka> Flannel, So you mean I must use sudo without su ?
[21:26] <rohan> data will work
[21:26] <obake-san> it worked just fine before i updated the kernel
[21:26] <ere4si> Flannel: thnx - is it a matter of copying the folder to the other boxes and sudo update & upgrade?
[21:26] <Faust-C> oic
[21:26] <Faust-C> rohan, ty
[21:27] <Flannel> natalisushka: That's the smart way, yeah.  You'll obviously want to fix sudo first (check out your hostnames)
[21:27] <rohan> its a problem only when u wanna watch it on dvd player not the PC
[21:27] <natalisushka> Flannel, Ok, in /etc/hostname I see only natalisushka-laptop
[21:27] <ere4si> jbroome: thnx :)
[21:27] <fen> Q How to I setup a CUPS printer on Ubuntu?
[21:27] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: have you typed lsmod   in terminal to see that is shows up there ?
[21:27] <jisatsu> why does ubuntu sort hangul/hiragana/katakana before roman text?
[21:27] <natalisushka> Flannel, isn't that what it's supposed to display? What does it mean "unable to resolve host" anyway?
[21:28] <Flannel> natalisushka: You need to make sure the two match.
[21:28] <PEPE___> jisatsu: maybe ur asian
[21:28] <obake-san> what am i looking for there?
[21:28] <jisatsu> PEPE___: it doesn't follow unicode sorting rules
[21:28] <obake-san> i dont see anything that mentions nvidia
[21:28] <PEPE___> yeah i got it
[21:29] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: mine using lsmod in terminal > i2c_core               24832  2 nvidia,i2c_sis96x
[21:29] <natalisushka> Flannel, what two? I can see in the hostnames file natalisushka-laptop and it's the same as root@natalisushka-laptop that I get with sudo su
[21:29] <Flannel> !hostname | natalisushka
[21:29] <Flannel> natalisushka: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, like the factoid says
[21:30] <ManualOverDozer8> !nvidia | obake-san
[21:30] <natalisushka> Flannel, Oh! Sorry! I'll check that
[21:30] <obake-san> i2c_core does not have nvidia anywhere after it
[21:30] <SubZeRo666[NL]> Hi Guys, i have a very strange problem. When i install ubuntu on HD, after reboot i get a complete system hang after POST screen. Complete black screen, no harddisk activity. It is also not possible to select to boot from CD-ROM. When i connect same harddisk via usb, zero the disk and put it back, than i can boot again from the cd. It seems that BIOS hangs on reading the MBR of the disk or something. How can i make grub as verbose as p
[21:31] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: ubuntu cannot effect you bios
[21:31] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: does your video seem to be working good ?
[21:31] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: something else is wrong - if you can't select boot from cdrom, something else is wrong that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:31] <Flannel> !repeat | SubZeRo666[NL]
[21:31] <natalisushka> Flannel .. Ok, here in /etc/hosts I see <IP_ADDRESS> localhost .. second line: <IP_ADDRESS> natalisushka-laptop.<IP_ADDRESS> ... I think this IP is the ISP network UP or something .. should it be here?
[21:31] <ikonia> natalisushka: dhcp is most probably adding that
[21:31] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia: i know, but bios is up to date. BIOS seems to hang on reading device when i install ubuntu on it, when i clear harddisk or put other os on it it works fine
[21:32] <obake-san> well, im stuck in 640x480, but it is working i guess, just no nvidia stuff like i had before the kernel update
[21:32] <Flannel> natalisushka: On your second line you should also see 'natalisushka-laptop' on its own, do you?
[21:32] <rohan> u might have to add the resolution manually
[21:32] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: it's most likley set to boot from the wrong default device so taking a while to walk through your disks and time out on each
[21:32] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: how many disks do you have in the system ?
[21:32] <ManualOverDozer8> SubZero: maybe you are looking for the boot menu options. a function key pressed during grub will allow you to see the options. cant tell you which key, but that may be what you are looking for
[21:32] <rohan> to the xorg.conf file -- display - subsection
[21:32] <natalisushka> I see on the second line what I posted. <IP_ADDRESS> natalisushka-laptop.<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:32] <SubZeRo666[NL]> 1, it's laptop
[21:32] <natalisushka> Flannel, <IP_ADDRESS> natalisushka-laptop.<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:32] <Flannel> natalisushka: After that, add a space, and then natalisushka-laptop
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: if you put a cdrom in, and attempt to boot from it, what happens
[21:33] <natalisushka> Flannel, Aha
[21:33] <SubZeRo666[NL]> ok, but i don't see any text at all, also not the "grub loading..." or whatever
[21:33] <natalisushka> OK one moment
[21:33] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when POST screen disappears it hangs
[21:33] <Flannel> natalisushka: then you should be able to sudo properly.  In the future, just use the GUI tool, it'll make sure everything stays coherent
[21:33] <obake-san> well there should be restricted drivers for nvidia
[21:33] <rohan> there
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: what happens if you put a cdrom in, and tell the bios that the default boot device is the cdrom
[21:33] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when i disconnect harddisk from sata and connect it to usb i can see boot menu
[21:33] <obake-san> but they just arent available for some reason
[21:33] <natalisushka> Flannel, Thanks dude! it works like a charm :)
[21:33] <ManualOverDozer8> obakeL i found something wierd before i changed to the nvidia-restricted. i changed refresh rate to 56hz, then changed deskspace to 800X600, and all the other monitor refresh rates appeared
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so this is an external disk
[21:33] <rohan> is -- ok how are you installing it
[21:33] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: this is not an internal disk
[21:33] <eth01> if your POST is hanging consider clearing CMOS
[21:34] <eth01> the *
[21:34] <obake-san> i tried all 3 versions of it in synaptic too
[21:34] <Flannel> natalisushka: When you want to lock your root account, "sudo passwd -l root"
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> no, it is an internal disk
[21:34] <rohan> which card do u have?
[21:34] <eth01> so wheres the bios held?
[21:34] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so your physically taking the disk out of your laptop and connecting it via usb ?
[21:34] <ManualOverDozer8> obake so now i run at 85hz 800x600 and all the refresh rates and screen resolutions are there now
[21:34] <eth01> i.e. the flash chip
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> but because my system became unusable, i bought a external usb casing
[21:34] <obake-san> nope, wont let me change the refresh rate
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> so i could clear disk on other machine
[21:34] <Flannel> eth01: in a chip on the mobo
[21:34] <SubZeRo666[NL]> so i can boot from cd again
[21:35] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia, correct
[21:35] <arrrghhh> ere4si, does gdm login screen take on the same screen settings as a particular user?  i'm the only one that's allowed to "administer the system" which i assume means i belong to sudoers.  i logged in with gnome and set my screen settings accordingly, and the login screen still seemed to have its own set of settings... so to speak.
[21:35] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so if you set the cdrom to be the default boot device, and attempt to boot from cdrom - what happens ?
[21:35] <rohan> is it 8.04 ubuntu?
[21:35] <ManualOverDozer8> obakeL ok, then that may be out of my league on assisting you. someone else can help you, i am sure of it
[21:35] <SubZeRo666[NL]> same problem
[21:35] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: it would appear to have some sort of hardware issue with your bios then, as ubuntu does not touch the bios
[21:35] <rohan> if yes do this uninstall nvidia package from synaptic
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct, but bios checks devices to detect which are bootable
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when it reads hd it crashes
[21:36] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], have you tried a different hdd?
[21:36] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: but if it can't read them, then the bios is having an issue
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when i clear harddisk it doesn't crash
[21:36] <rohan> and then reboot - install ddriver thru restricted driver
[21:36] <ManualOverDozer8> SubZero: set your CMOS to detect the drives auto. if they cant be detected auto, then you may have jumpers set improperly
[21:36] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct, bios does have an issue, but i would like to know a work around for it
[21:36] <rohan> if you still don't get the right resolution do this.
[21:36] <rohan> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:36] <sCOTTo> :)
[21:37] <sCOTTo> 1305 user :)
[21:37] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: well, you've confirmed grub is installed correctly but using it on a USB device - so the problem must be with your bios
[21:37] <jester_> jester
[21:37] <obake-san> it wont let me enable the restricted driver
[21:37] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], there might not be a workaround.... you might need to fix/replace the bios.
[21:37] <obake-san> its not listed
[21:37] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: the only think I can think of is that your device.map in /boot/grub is set to point to your cdrom
[21:37] <obake-san> no matter what i do, its just not there
[21:37] <rohan> search for the section "Screen"
[21:37] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct. bios crashes on hd, so why can't i fix it? if it can boot windows, it should boot linux too right?
[21:37] <rohan> Add these line in the end (afer depth)
[21:37] <rohan> SubSection "Display"
[21:37] <SubZeRo666[NL]> maybe install lilo or other bootmanager on it?
[21:38] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: did you try to boot from the disk when you had it on usb
[21:38] <obake-san> hold on a second, im loading up an older kernel to see if its fucked there too
[21:38] <ikonia> obake-san: watch your language please.
[21:38] <rohan> Depth     24                Modes    "1280x1024" "1024x768"(add resolution u want)        EndSubSection
[21:38] <Guest87410> anyone know how to change the sound out of firefox/flash to go to a different output (usb sound card instead of internal audio), sound sources set in preferences and test ok, just seems to be flash/firefox I cant get through there
[21:38] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], i thought you said it crashed when it got to the hdd... so you loaded windows on it and windows booted?
[21:38] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: rohan on right path, as i do recognize it. on Ubuntu 7.x i had same problem
[21:38] <SubZeRo666[NL]> i had windows vista on machine
[21:38] <sCOTTo> yuk
[21:39] <TiredWolf> is there any ARM disassembler in the repositories? i guess not, but then i might have missed the less-than-obvious
[21:39] <rohan> yeah i had this issue -- the steps i tried and suggested fixed the issue -- i hope it helps people here too
[21:39] <SubZeRo666[NL]> wanted to install ubuntu, so i said in install "use full disk" after reboot, black screen after post
[21:39]  * sCOTTo divorced windows vista for Ubuntu Linux...
[21:39] <obake-san> yea, when i load .17 it lets me enable the nvidia driver
[21:39] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], have you always used the same cd?
[21:39] <ManualOverDozer8> rohan: well, it worked for me on 7.x, i cant say it will on 8.x now, as i dont even have an issue. finally a flawless install of Ubuntu :)
[21:39] <rohan> after logout - dun forget to do this -- at the login screen press - CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[21:39] <obake-san> lemme try .18
[21:39] <SubZeRo666[NL]> yeah, even verified it, tried 64 bit and 32 bit versions
[21:40] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: your bios does not appear to want to read the grub boot sector
[21:40] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], and the livecd boots alright?
[21:40] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct
[21:40] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: did you boot it from usb when you have it on as an external USB
[21:40] <rohan> haha i got the issue with 8.x unlucky but luckily these steps fixed it (not to mention i was using a beta version :))
[21:40] <SubZeRo666[NL]> but windows is able to boot
[21:40] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: did you boot it from usb when you have it on as an external USB
[21:40] <arrrghhh> SubZeRo666[NL], you can choose windows from grub and boot it?  i thought it froze before you made it anywhere near grub.
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when windows was installed. so i want to know if i can install grub on /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda (install grub in partition instead of MBR?)
[21:41] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: you don't install grub on a partition
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> no, windows is completely from the disk
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> ok
[21:41] <FAJALOU1> hi my computer just froze up and i had to re boot,,, i am running 2 ndiswrapper drivers, nvidia gpu, and a 1 ghz mobo.  At the time i had one IRC open with pidgin, and Firefox with three tabs.  My system monitor showed evertything normal... is there any way why i can check  it did this?
[21:41] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: when you had it as an external disk on USB - did you attempt to boot on it
[21:41] <SubZeRo666[NL]> well, i'm now running live, with the disk mounted
[21:42] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: I really need you to answer my question
[21:42] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia: it doesn't show up in bootable devices
[21:42] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when using F11
[21:42] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so how did you "see the grub" menu ?
[21:42] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: you said earlier when you took it out and tried it on another machine you saw the grub menu
[21:43] <SubZeRo666[NL]> i never saw grub menu
[21:43] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: then what where you talking about when you said you did
[21:43] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: it sounds to me like your installing grub to the partition instead of the mbr
[21:43] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: have you tried installing grub to the mbr rather than the partition
[21:44] <rohan> so nvidia driver friend is the issue fixed or we are still stuck with the same situation?
[21:44] <SubZeRo666[NL]> when i installed it, i kept it default, tried (hd0)
[21:44] <SubZeRo666[NL]> and /dev/sda
[21:44] <SubZeRo666[NL]> both didn't work
[21:44] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: so it looks like your bios has a bug in it then
[21:44] <obake-san> .18 i can enable the nvidia driver, but when i load up .19 there is nothing in the hardware drivers section
[21:45] <rohan> system - administration - hardware drivers
[21:45] <obake-san> theres nothing there
[21:45] <rohan> Obake-san --  what comes up whenu navigate like i mentioned above?
[21:45] <rohan> oops
[21:45] <SubZeRo666[NL]> correct. but when i clear disk, put in windows disk, install it, it works. So bios doesn't have a problem booting windows when i install it. so bios must be very bad, but i would like to know what i can change in the boot sector so it doesn't crash on it.
[21:45] <obake-san> all the previous versions of the kernel nvidia is there, just the newest one there is nothing listed in the window
[21:46] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: the bios does have a problem
[21:46] <ere4si> arrrghhh: sorry I was afk - I don't use a login manager so I couldn't say - sorry
[21:46] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: can you right click on deskspace/Background and choose to enable visual effects ?
[21:46] <obake-san> well, i assume .19 is the newest one
[21:46] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: if your bios is unable to read the grub boot sector - or pass beyond it to error to the screen, your bios is having an issue
[21:46] <SubZeRo666[NL]> ok, i think a different boot loader could fix it
[21:46] <rohan> yeah pls try the above suggestion and see where are we landing
[21:46] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: have you tried leaving it to time out for say 25 minutes
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> no, haven't tried that
[21:47] <gfather> hello guys
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> will try that now
[21:47] <obake-san> no, it said could not be enabled when i tried selecting normal visual effects
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia, thanks for support
[21:47] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: if it times out you may get a more useful error message
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> btw, can i put an other boot loader on it?
[21:47] <ikonia> SubZeRo666[NL]: get a time out first
[21:47] <gfather> i installed the jdk , but netbeans cannot detect that
[21:47] <SubZeRo666[NL]> @ikonia, ok, thanx
[21:48] <rohan> by the way -- i guess this should work - for manual stuff ---
[21:48] <rohan> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  -- anyone here can verify it pls
[21:48] <gfather> i tried to remove it and install it again several times , but not working
[21:48] <ikonia> rohan: thats now not as verbose in 8.04
[21:48] <ManualOverDozer8> obake: if you cant choose anthing but no effects, then, i would assume you arent running the accelerated driver (resticted), but, if all works fine, then i wouldnt worry. i am currently ready to dump the driver as it bogs down every now and then
[21:48] <ikonia> rohan: due to xorg being more dynamic
[21:49] <rohan> ok nvidia site also has the drivers latest verison and as i know -- u dun need to install aal available verison of nvidia drivers from synaptic
[21:49] <Benitosimies> Is there a way to reset the /etc/network/interfaces file back to how it was when Ubuntu was first installed? I think I was dumb and broke it after the last kernel update.
[21:49] <rohan> if its a new card glx-new will work
[21:49] <obake-san> nothing works
[21:49] <ManualOverDozer8> rohan: this old series 4 chipset lol
[21:49] <obake-san> i tried glx, glxlegacy, and glx-new
[21:49] <chippy> hello
[21:49] <arrrghhh> Benitosimies, if you comment it all out, the network manager takes over
[21:49] <obake-san> glx-new works in every previous version of the kernel
[21:50] <chippy> on terminal, I'm using gnome-open to open files, but what's another command for me to use ?
[21:50] <ManualOverDozer8> rohan: i will check nvidia site now that you say it, eventhough the glx-new works, i dont like the occassional stutter
[21:50] <Benitosimies> haha Thanks arrrghhh, I'll try that.
[21:50] <tyrone> how can i tell what version of libgpod i have install
[21:50] <rohan> i know sorry was not able to get your work done
[21:51] <dotumaringka> libgpod --version maybe?
[21:51] <cypherdelic> Choppy Video Playback with VLC 0.8.6e playing X264 files on Ubuntu Hardy 64bit. Toten works great. Any suggestions?
[21:51] <rohan> is  youtube sound is working fine?
[21:52] <Benitosimies> Been getting a lot of grief from my Broadcom NIC.
[21:52] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, you can up the priority of vlc. or try 0.9.
[21:52] <rohan> i got to know thavideo is choppy sometime cos of flash too
[21:52] <ManualOverDozer8> cypherdelic: i ran into same issue installing mplayer-mozzila-plugin. it worked fine up until the point i installed the mplayer plugin, in which i will remove
[21:52] <tombar> anyone knows any eee channel i can ask for support?
[21:52] <tombar> !eee
[21:52] <dotumaringka> tyrone : try libgpod --version
[21:52] <FurryNemesis> !eeeubuntu
[21:52] <rohan> sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[21:52] <Flannel> tombar: #eeepc
[21:53] <tombar> thanks FurryNemesis and Flannel
[21:53] <Sydero> !eeep
[21:53] <chippy> would it be bad to alias "o" for "gnome-open" ?
[21:53] <Sydero> !eeepc
[21:53] <FurryNemesis> gah
[21:53] <cypherdelic> ManualOverDozer8: I dont understand what you've said
[21:54] <RxDx> was the problem that reduces the hd life-time fixed?
[21:54] <rohan> cypher - choppy video - did that work
[21:54] <ManualOverDozer8> cyperdelic: let me do something to be sure, i need to remove the nvidia resticted to see if the videos on youtube are choppy
[21:54] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, did you try changing the priority or a newer version?
[21:54] <ManualOverDozer8> brb
[21:54] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: hold on i will try that, i can i apply higher priority permanently?
[21:55] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, yes
[21:55] <arrrghhh> you might have to enable the "advanced options" tho
[21:56] <Flannel> RxDx: You can read all about it here: (and its linked pages): http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/laptop-hardrive-killer-bug/
[21:56] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: -15 didn't help. do you know about vlc 0.9 repo for hardy 64bit? compile?
[21:56] <RxDx> Flannel, thanks
[21:57] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, i don't think there's a repo for it... visit videolan.org.  they have compiled binaries for a shitton of oses
[21:57] <Flannel> RxDx: most notably (after you've read the text): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 that link, which then links here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[21:57] <Flannel> !language | arrrghhh
[21:58] <Rudy> I want download mkisofs
[21:58] <rohan> there are issue with vlc for 64 bit
[21:58] <RxDx> Flannel, just a thing... where can i see if laptop mode is enable or not?
[21:58] <Nixnoob> hello
[21:58] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: ok, i will first uninstall all vlc stuff and then install a binary or if it wont work then ill compile it. thanks for now.
[21:58] <Guest71851> who have some page web for download mkisofs
[21:59] <arrrghhh> np
[21:59] <Slacke1> uh...hello, first time using irc
[21:59] <Flannel> RxDx: I'm not sure.  I don't have a laptop
[21:59] <nickrud> !info mkisofs | Guest71851
[21:59] <rohan> same here Slackel
[21:59] <nickrud> hm,
[21:59] <RxDx> Flannel, thanks
[21:59] <linch7> Q: does someone know how to find out the *port* name for a bluetooth device?
[22:00] <Mr_Bad_News> is there a way to get buttons to show pictures if you set firefox to have a black background
[22:00] <Slacke1> cool, i have my screenname as slacker though, not sure y its seen as slackel?
[22:00] <rohan> hmm its ok
[22:00] <tritium> RxDx: /etc/default/acpi-support
[22:00] <Guest71851> I try install the burn comman, but I can't because I need install cdrecord and mkisofs
[22:00] <Slacke1> cool
[22:00] <ManualOverDozer8> yes youtube still choppy , it had to be an add-on to Firefox that did it, as it didnt do it before
[22:00] <rohan> so i am also as of now talking to random people some helping me , me trying to hellp other
[22:00] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: i cannot find 0.9
[22:01] <furseiseki> anyone run nicotine on ubuntu?
[22:01] <russ> Does anybody have an explanation for why gtkpod keeps setting my podcasts to the "not yet listened to" state?
[22:01] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, i think it's still in nightlies
[22:01] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone know how to get awesome-3 working
[22:01] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: nightlies?
[22:01] <moreau> does anyone havethe linux drivers for an intel 945 express v-card?? the download page on the intel site doesnt have a download link
[22:02] <russ> rohan there's usually a few smart people though
[22:02] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, http://nightlies.videolan.org/
[22:02] <ryan_> has anyone worked or set up a ssh proxy tunnel before
[22:02] <fyrestrtr> russ: perhaps it thinks you haven't given them enough attention.
[22:02] <rohan> i can say - there are people with more knowledge than me and i am ready to learn from them and help others :)
[22:02] <ManualOverDozer8> russ: combined knowledge as a team, lots can be done
[22:02] <Nixnoob> ryan yes I have
[22:02] <InsomniaCity`> ryan_: its easy... take a look at ssh -L
[22:03] <Slacke1> wow, so many conversations at once. Its like being in a crowded room listening to everyone, rather fast-paced
[22:03] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, there is a repo there listed as well
[22:03] <jacob_linux> wheres a channel for the john application?
[22:03] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: cool thats it: deb http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/sid-amd64/arch ./
[22:03] <ikonia> jacob_linux: not here
[22:03] <russ> I agree, still haven't found anybody with a theory about my gtkpod problem yet though
[22:03] <ikonia> cypherdelic: thats not ubuntu based
[22:03] <jacob_linux> ikonia, do you have any idea where?
[22:03] <ikonia> jacob_linux: no here,
[22:03] <ikonia> not
[22:04] <Nixnoob> :)
[22:04] <rohan> its there
[22:04] <furseiseki> does anyone know how to block someone?
[22:04] <ikonia> furseiseki: in what respect ?
[22:04] <ryan_> ok well the thing is i beleive you need two pc so i was thinking of setting it up on my laptop at my house and then if im at a cafe i can run firefox of a usb
[22:04] <rolle> am i in the right channel?
[22:04] <arrrghhh> cypherdelic, i don't see a 64-bit ubuntu repo
[22:04] <furseiseki> this guy ChanServ keeps trolling me
[22:04] <rolle> =)
[22:04] <Slacke1> right click and choose ignore
[22:04] <cypherdelic> ikonia: but ubuntu isnt available at 64bit
[22:04] <furseiseki> he follows me to every channel
[22:04] <ikonia> furseiseki: chanserv
[22:04] <mlLK> is there a common path for importing svns?
[22:04] <mlLK> /usr/src?
[22:04] <ikonia> cypherdelic: chanserv is a service, not a guy
[22:04] <rolle> wow, this place is hopping
[22:05] <rohan> so how to do you add a contact in IRC
[22:05] <furseiseki> oh
[22:05] <cypherdelic> arrrghhh: right maybe sid will work
[22:05] <Flannel> mlLK: it'd be somewhere in your homedir
[22:05] <stmartin> can somebody please explain this text? I can' t understand it. http://pastebin.ca/1084583
[22:05] <rohan> is there an options ?
[22:05] <ryan_> im using ssh tunel manger
[22:05] <ManualOverDozer8> furs: that is normal, there is noone following you around the irc
[22:05] <ikonia> cypherdelic: sorry - ubuntu is available 64bit
[22:05] <arrrghhh> furseiseki, in irc, /ignore <user>
[22:05] <furseiseki> kewl
[22:05] <furseiseki> thanks
[22:05] <ikonia> furseiseki: chanserv is a service not a guy
[22:05] <moreau> 0/10
[22:05] <mlLK> Flannel, k
[22:05] <Slacke1> how do you get the person name to whom your responding to, to appear? or do u type it?
[22:05] <cypherdelic> ikonia: where, please?
[22:05] <ikonia> Slacke1: just type his name
[22:05] <Flannel> Slacke1: Type the first few letters, and hit tab
[22:05] <ikonia> cypherdelic: http://www.ubuntu.com
[22:05] <rohan> copy - paste :)
[22:05] <arrrghhh> Slacke1, autocomplete with tab.  just like in the shell.
[22:06] <Mr_Bad_News> TRICKERY!!!
[22:06] <ManualOverDozer8> furs: its a channel service, i use Pidgin i see it every time. you can juts close it, if need be
[22:06] <russ> arrrghhh, learn something new every day ...
[22:06] <cypherdelic> ikonia: what do you talking about? im searching for a hardy64 bitbinarie of VLC 0.9, i never talked to chanserv
[22:06] <ikonia> cypherdelic: that wasn't meant for you
[22:06] <Slacke1> thanks
[22:06] <arrrghhh> russ, i use it in the terminal almost feverishly
[22:06] <rohan> http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/sid-amd64/arch/vlc_0.9.0-git20080727-2_amd64.deb ???
[22:06] <cypherdelic> ikonia: oh im sorry then, please watch your highlight
[22:07] <ryan_22> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave <-- Has anyone solved this issue yet?
[22:07] <ManualOverDozer8> i use VLC on windows/linux, they both work better than the preinstalled ones that come with the OS's
[22:07] <nonewmsgs> sometimes in movieplayer when i am watching a dvd and i switch audio tracks it gets pissy and i lose all sound even it turn it back to the original track
[22:08] <rolle> anyone know of any known issues with Rhythmbox 0.11.5  and playback of CDs?
[22:08] <Slacke1> Q: what happens when all 1297 persons in the room send a message almost instantly?
[22:08] <Flannel> Slacke1: We all get to read lots
[22:09] <Slacke1> Flannel: lol
[22:09] <rolle> chanserv dies?
[22:09] <will00> is there a program that would organize a bunch of mp3s into a set file system whenever new files would appear in a set folder?
[22:09] <Slacke1> yay! just used tab.
[22:09] <ManualOverDozer8> Slacke1: i would assume there is a buffer for just that thing
[22:09] <mlLK> omfg vbox is owasome
[22:09] <rolle> So no guesses?
[22:10] <nonewmsgs> what is vbox?
[22:10] <nonewmsgs> oh nm
[22:10] <ikonia> m1k3: please watch out for phrases like omfg and wtf - we know what they mean and don't need to see it
[22:10] <arrrghhh> nonewmsgs, i assume virtualbox
[22:10] <nonewmsgs> i had a blonde moment
[22:10] <rolle> my CD's won't play.. but it readsthem.. can tell you all the tracks and shat
[22:10] <InsomniaCity`> ryan_: ooh, thanks, I've been looking for something like tunnel manager :)
[22:10] <mlLK> nonewmsgs, vbox is awsome
[22:10] <alan_m> nonewmsgs, thats ok :D
[22:10] <rolle> could be a driver issue?
[22:10] <mlLK> !virtualbox
[22:10] <ryan_> y but idk if it works
[22:10] <furseiseki> rawr
[22:10] <rohan> https://launchpad.net/~mapopa/+archive/+build/662758 -- FYI
[22:10] <rohan> help :- http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/03/new-face-to-vlc-media-player-090git.html
[22:11] <mlLK> it's clean as can be, very easy to use
[22:11] <rohan> help2 - http://jimicompot.blogspot.com/2008/04/vlc-nighlty-amd64-build-for-hardy.html
[22:11] <ryan_> i set it up but i get a message "Tunnel 'SSH Tunnel' stopped.
[22:11] <ryan_> ssh: connect to host 69.xx.xx.xx port 22: Connection refused
[22:11] <furseiseki> anyone run ubuntu studio?
[22:11] <InsomniaCity`> ryan_: ok - so first off, try it on the command line
[22:11] <InsomniaCity`> ssh 69..blah
[22:12] <arrrghhh> ryan_, is the port on firewall AND router open?
[22:12] <ryan_> ya thats wut im thinkin
[22:12] <ryan_> cuz it was refused so fast
[22:12] <ryan_> so wut port forward it on my wireless router
[22:12] <rohan> vlc 0.9 it will work
[22:13] <rohan> give the links a try
[22:13] <rolle> my turn, help me now =p
[22:13] <arrrghhh> ryan_, i recommend going to portforward.com.  very good site.
[22:13] <rohan> rolle: go ahead
[22:13] <ryan_> ya ive used it b4
[22:13] <mlLK> might someone recommend a good css + html manager for developing sites?
[22:13] <rolle> anyone know of any known issues with Rhythmbox 0.11.5  and playback of CDs?
[22:14] <rolle> my CD's won't play.. but it readsthem.. can tell you all the tracks and shat
[22:14] <rolle> could be a driver issue?
[22:14] <arrrghhh> m1k3, kompozer
[22:14] <mlLK> rolle, you install all the codecs? which distro?
[22:14] <tkach> My folder on my windows computer is shared on my network, but I can't seem to access it. I used to be able just click Places-->Network-->Windows Network and I could see everything. Now I can't see any of the shared folders. Is there something I could be missing?
[22:14] <rolle> hardy
[22:14] <ManualOverDozer8> rolle: just a shot in the dark> do you have the audio cable hooked up from the CDROM to the soundcard ?
[22:14] <JarG0n> hello.  Is there a solution for the upgrade localedef error (Gutsy to Hardy)
[22:15] <ryan_> so if i set that up then what would i use to open the connection from like a cafe
[22:15] <rolle> Not sure if i d/l any codecs
[22:15] <l3x> why is ubuntu 8.04 so slower than 7.10? i installed on the same machine, no tweaks... laptop intel pentium M 1.6ghz 1gb ram
[22:15] <ManualOverDozer8> rolle: also, maybe you can check your volume settings
[22:15] <rolle> i'm new to lynics
[22:15] <rolle> Its not even pretending to play
[22:15] <rohan> install all codecs in one shot
[22:15] <arrrghhh> rolle, it's linux.
[22:15] <russ> rolle can you play cd's with any other application?
[22:15] <mlLK> rolle, its k; http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[22:16] <arrrghhh> and yea have you tried to play the cd with vlc?
[22:16] <rolle> i only see this one player
[22:16] <rolle> perhaps i'll d/l another one
[22:16] <rolle> sudo apt-get vlc ?
[22:16] <mlLK> rolle, its k; http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gusty then
[22:16] <rohan> paste this command  ---  sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs
[22:16] <l3x> rolle: use synaptic to install apps
[22:16] <Slacke1> Hmmm....just had an interesting idea. What if all the people in the room constantly sends messages and overflows the buffer?
[22:16] <joel__> df
[22:16] <Flannel> JarG0n: its a known problem: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340
[22:16] <rohan> after you do this you needs are done -- u can isntall vlc as you typed above
[22:16] <joel__> name kikau
[22:16] <joel__> nickname kikau
[22:16] <l3x> Slacke1: why do that?
[22:17] <Flannel> JarG0n: there appears to be a workaround there
[22:17] <rolle> okay I'll do that now
[22:17] <kikau> hey people
[22:17] <rolle> :)
[22:17] <varitech> hello
[22:17] <rohan> rolle: ok i am waiting
[22:17] <Slacke1> rollle: try gnome-volume-control and under switches tab uncheck digital out. I think thats what your lookin for
[22:17] <arrrghhh> Slacke1, what if everyone pulled all their money out of all banks all at once?  what do you think would happen?
[22:17] <rohan> yeah thats also a possibility
[22:17] <l3x> why is ubuntu 8.04 so slower than 7.10? i installed on the same machine, no tweaks... laptop intel pentium M 1.6ghz 1gb ram
[22:18] <rohan> Crashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh + nobody will understand whats going on
[22:18] <l3x> arrrghhh: that would be great!!!!
[22:18] <Slacke1> dns attack style. lol
[22:18] <russ> Slacke1, or what if everybody flushed the toilet at once? end of civilization as we know it.
[22:18] <JarG0n> !localedef
[22:18] <Flannel> Slacke1, arrrghhh, That's not really a topic for this channel, you mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[22:18] <Slacke1> sorry if i seem ......malicious
[22:18] <l3x> ddos
[22:18] <arrrghhh> Flannel, sorry
[22:18] <l3x> but bank style!
[22:18] <rohan> rolle: hmm wassup
[22:18] <rolle> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[22:18] <rolle>   medibuntu-keyring
[22:19] <rolle> y anyways?
[22:19] <ManualOverDozer8> l3x: on my old box, 8.x dont seem any faster, nor slower, yet smoother
[22:19] <arrrghhh> i was just trying to prove a point about what-ifs
[22:19] <kikau> hey viri_tt
[22:19] <Slacke1> Flannel: sorry, forgot this was dedicated help
[22:19] <Flannel> arrrghhh: no worries.
[22:19] <l3x> ManualOverDozer8: lucky you...
[22:20] <rohan> ???
[22:20] <ManualOverDozer8> l3x: i am very happy with 8.x as i dont need to do the boot mod of irqpoll so my machine dont lock up every ten minutes like 7.x did
[22:20] <l3x> can we do dos attacks with no computers?
[22:20] <ikonia> l3x: no - this is offtopic
[22:20] <mlLK> rolle, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Installing_Codecs doesn't do it?
[22:20] <ikonia> l3x: you know this - you've been in here long enough - stop now please.
[22:20] <l3x> i was just kidding:)
[22:20] <rolle> rohan: computer workign its magic now
[22:20] <ikonia> l3x: don't
[22:20] <rolle> mlLK: i'll check it out
[22:20] <l3x> ikonia: ok, sorry
[22:20] <b0ef> ehlo
[22:20] <b0ef> helping a friend out, I installed ubuntu on a acer inspire one using the usb flash chip, but it only setup a terminal environment. Any apt-get to install the rest?, like gnome and all?;)
[22:21] <Flannel> b0ef: ubuntu-desktop
[22:21] <rohan> rolle: hehe well then its your credit enjoy blast some music
[22:21] <b0ef> Flannel: thanks;)
[22:21] <russ> is it possible to install ubuntu on a flash drive and then run my windows laptop from it?
[22:21] <rolle> rohan: well its getting all that crap==slow wifi =p
[22:22] <Flannel> russ: Yes, you'd just boot to the USB like booting to a CD
[22:22] <alan_m> !usb | russ
[22:22] <rohan> rolle: please explain
[22:22] <alan_m> Russ: hope that helps :)
[22:23] <russ> alan_m, thanks I'll check it out
[22:23] <rolle> rohan: nate@desktop:~$ sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs
[22:23] <elexodus__>  anybody know how to package their own live CD?
[22:23] <rolle> that
[22:23] <l3x> did anyone experienced 8.04 running slower than 7.10, or is it just me??? i did no tweaks at all... same ubuntu and kubuntu...
[22:23] <Flannel> elexodus__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[22:23] <ikonia> l3x: it should run the same - what video card do you have ?
[22:24] <l3x> ikonia: intel i915 integrated gpu
[22:24] <rolle> expodweeb: the website told me pretty easily how ot ake the cd
[22:24] <rolle> took about 3 minutes
[22:24] <ikonia> l3x: do you have hardware acceleration working on that card ?
[22:24] <l3x> ikonia: on my laptop (which is muy only comp)
[22:24] <anakron_> Hi
[22:24] <moreau> could someone give me a hand with installing xf86-video-intel?  i used the command "git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel " to get it, but now I dont know what to do with these files
[22:24] <l3x> ikonia: dunno. how do i check it?
[22:25] <rohan> so is the volume not there or its choppy or something?
[22:25] <anakron_> i got an 768 error when i trying to update 5-a-day, how i can do it?
[22:25] <ikonia> l3x: does glxinfo show it as enabled
[22:26] <ikonia> l3x: or does glxgears run "smooth"
[22:26] <elexodus__> Flannel: looks good. I am trying to package my tweeked version of Ubuntu complete with drivers, modified kernel, and custom appearance onto a cd before I have to ship my comp for RMA (must revert beck to vista)
[22:26] <rolle> rohan: it would have to play in order to find out if there is volume
[22:26] <l3x> ikonia: wait, I will check...
[22:26] <rolle> it will just say:  0:3:32
[22:26] <rolle> or something of that sort
[22:26] <rohan> hmm what are u trying to play?
[22:26] <rolle> coldplay
[22:26] <tkach> I'm having trouble viewing shared folders on my windows machine. It used to be really ease, but since I switched routers I can't see the shared folders anymore. (It sees the network, just not the folders) What could I be missing?
[22:27] <l3x> ikonia: what is glxinfo?? sorry for a dumb question :)
[22:27] <ikonia> l3x: a command
[22:27] <l3x> ikonia: i do not have it. do i have to install it from a repo?
[22:27] <rohan> any error messages?
[22:28] <ikonia> l3x: just try "glxgears -info"
[22:28] <rohan> did u check the volume control
[22:28] <snarkster> is it possible to do a full install on a 8gb usb stick and use it on multiple computers?
[22:28] <rohan> if not double click pls
[22:28] <l3x> ikonia: no gl* commands in my konsole
[22:28] <rohan> check Master volume
[22:28] <Flannel> snarkster: Yes
[22:28] <Gillpy> elexodus__: how did your ftp server come along?
[22:28] <FuneralDancer> hello all
[22:28] <ikonia> l3x: please show me the output of "echo $PATH£
[22:28] <ikonia> l3x: please show me the output of "echo $PATH"
[22:29] <snarkster> flannel that is not useing a live cd image right, but a complete install?
[22:29] <Flannel> snarkster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing%20on%20external%20or%20RAID%20hard%20disks
[22:29] <rolle> master volume is full.. and sounds on IRC work
[22:29] <snarkster> thank you
[22:29] <l3x> ikonia: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[22:30] <rolle> Sorry for asking dumb question--still just getting used to this this :)
[22:30] <rohan> hmm mp3 or wma or ogg
[22:30] <ikonia> l3x: thats odd you should have glxgears as part of the default install
[22:30] <FurryNemesis> ogg!
[22:30] <filthpig> hm.. Does anybody know when or if compiz will be a real alternative as default WM for people wanting to play games and do some 3D work?
[22:30] <armr> where can I find a list of supported hard ware for ubuntu?
[22:30] <rohan> i am also not a geek rolle just trying to help
[22:30] <ikonia> !hcl | armr
[22:30] <rolle> it plays wav file i  know for sure
[22:30] <l3x> ikonia: it appears that i do not. i installed it.
[22:30] <FurryNemesis> filthpig, right now
[22:31] <snarkster> flannel is that pendrive link the one that uses the livecd image?
[22:31] <arrrghhh> rolle, have you tried alsamixer?
[22:31] <filthpig> FurryNemesis, so you're telling me Compiz does not affect 3D performance?
[22:31] <l3x> ikonia: glxinfo direct rendering: yes. is that it?
[22:31] <filthpig> bah
[22:31] <ikonia> l3x: yes, sounds good
[22:31] <rohan> do u have vlc installed
[22:32] <rohan> try on that
[22:32] <isleshocky77> I have this done on one of my ubuntu machines, and now I can't remember how i did it. How do I have my computer check the local bind server for dns first before going out to the internet?
[22:32] <isleshocky77> oh resolve.conf
[22:32] <isleshocky77> but I believe there is a way to have the networkmanager insert the dns in there automatically.
[22:32] <l3x> ikonia: glxgears run "smooth" 651 fps :) do you know what seems to be a problem?
[22:33] <skarface> isleshocky77: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient/dhclient.conf
[22:33] <rolle> i don't.. i'm in synaptic package manager right now
[22:33] <ryan_> ok i have now port forwarded ssh tunnel manager but now i get "Tunnel 'SSH Tunnel' stopped.
[22:33] <ryan_> ssh: connect to host 69.xx.xx.xx port 22: Connection timed out" any suggestions?
[22:33] <skarface> isleshocky77: er /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf I guess
[22:33] <ikonia> l3x: well your running ok, one thing to try is put the line Driver "intel" in your xorg.conf file in the video device section to force xorg to use the more advanced "intel" driver, incase it's falling back to the i810 driver
[22:33] <moreau> could someone give me a hand with installing xf86-video-intel?  i used the command "git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel " to get it, but now I dont know what to do with autogen.sh, configure.ac and Makefile
[22:33] <rohan> hmm ok cool
[22:33] <cypha> anyone familiar with broadcom 43xx?
[22:33] <rohan> sudo apt-get install vlc
[22:33] <rohan> is it working?
[22:34] <l3x> ikonia: thank you very much
[22:34] <skarface> isleshocky77: it's the commented out "prepend domain-name-servers ..." line
[22:34] <glitsj16> hi all
[22:34] <cypha> where's that guy Broadcom that used to hang around here?
[22:34] <rolle> its d/l
[22:34] <rohan> awesome
[22:35] <rohan> lets hope for the best brb after a short break :)
[22:35] <isleshocky77> skarface: In which file?
[22:35] <skarface> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[22:35] <tj1515> i get crappy fullscreen flash video i've tried disabling compiz but it didn't help is anyone else having this problem
[22:35] <isleshocky77> skarface: Thanks.
[22:35] <gordonjcp> tj1515: full screen flash *is* crappy ;-)
[22:36] <tkach> I have an external hard drive that is shared on another windows machine. I used to be able to access it under "Network" in Ubuntu, now I can't. Any ideas as to what I may be missing.
[22:36] <rohan> tj1515: sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[22:36] <sami> Is there any free repository so that I can use RapidSVN?
[22:37] <tj1515> gordonjcp: but in windows it loks much better
[22:37] <rolle> Need to get 12.2MB of archives.
[22:37] <rolle> After this operation, 32.3MB of additional disk space will be used.
[22:37] <rolle> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[22:37] <rolle> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe libwxbase2.6-0 <IP_ADDRESS>.2-2ubuntu4 [556kB]
[22:37] <rolle> 3% [1 libwxbase2.6-0 441953/556kB 79%]                                           21.6kB/s 9min5s
[22:37] <FloodBot3> rolle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <gordonjcp> tj1515: that's because Adobe don't care about you
[22:37] <rolle> got it
[22:37] <rohan> go ahead say yes
[22:37] <`brooks> is there no such thing as manual installation in ubuntu?  everything is handled through package-handlers?
[22:37] <tj1515> i figured it may be something like that
[22:38] <rohan> try tj1515 i think it will fix it
[22:38] <glitsj16> tj1515: running flash 9 ? if so, fullscreen support is somewhat improved in the flash player 10 beta 2, you could try installing that to see if it improves any
[22:39] <l3x> ikonia: sorry for being boring, but: path is /etc/x11/xorg.conf... right? and i cannot find the line "driver" for graphic card...
[22:39] <rolle> says it will take abobut an hour to DL =p   Think I might go grab a coffee and read up on ubuntu hehe
[22:39] <ryan_> what does it mean when  "Connection timed out"
[22:40] <glitsj16> `brooks: it's still a fully able linux, compiling your own stuff is still possible if you want to go that route
[22:40] <ikonia> l3x: thats why I said "add the line"
[22:40] <rohan> sure take your time
[22:40] <`brooks> k, ty glits
[22:41] <Chobo-Mog> Does anyone know if its possible to restart the sound server when one application (Rhythmbox, VLC, Totem etc) locks it up, preventing other applications from playing sound, or stopping all sound at all
[22:41] <rohan> is there aguide for xchat-gnome
[22:41] <esac> how can i make the text on the gnome panel white, for example where it has "Applications  Places  System"
[22:41] <l3x> ikonia: so, i suppose to add "Driver" intel anywhere in the file? at the beggining, or at the end, or... sorry, i never edited configuration files, i do not want to screw up :)
[22:41] <tkach> OK, now I'm trying to use a printer. I go to printer config, and select windows printer via samba. The SMB browser sees the windows network and it sees "Compaq" (the other computer) but when I click "compaq" to view available printers, the printer config freezes.
[22:41] <rolle> rohan: what you need with it?
[22:41] <ikonia> l3x: no - please pay attention
[22:41] <rohan> rolle: didn't get you
[22:42] <RxDx> was the problem that reduces the hd life-time fixed?
[22:42] <Chobo-Mog> Restarting X or the computer itself does this, but loses all the running applications
[22:42] <ikonia> l3x: in the Device section for the video device - add the line Driver "intel"
[22:42] <Squee__> Does anyone know a good expresscard atheros 80211n card that works in linux?
[22:42] <rolle> rohan: You asked about xchat?
[22:42] <tj1515> rohan: thanks but it didn't fix it
[22:42] <l3x> ikonia: ok. sorry:)
[22:42] <nikolam> Hi. Monitor on my desktop machine died this evening. How do I connect to it from my other machine on local network to get some files I am working on? (or to put it this way: How do i start sshd and enable sshd port on firewall, on machine i don1t have monitor on it?
[22:42] <rohan> yeah a guide kind of a thing u know -- i am new to irc
[22:43] <rohan> hmmm uninstall flash and reinstall :) last suggestion
[22:43] <rolle> rohan: if you use /set it will show all your options
[22:43] <rolle> rohan: this might help as well http://t0x.in/xchatsetvars.html
[22:43] <rohan> rolle: awesome dude thanks
[22:44] <rolle> rohan: no problem--i'm new to all of this stuff.  I'm so used to my mIRC =p
[22:44] <eie> hi
[22:44] <eie> how can I disable motherboard beebs?
[22:44] <rohan> i will try that too - can i add u ?
[22:44] <moreau> is xserver-xorg-video-intel a crappy driver?  there seems be Intel-made linux drivers for my 945g express, but I cant find them
[22:45] <HymnToLife> eie: unplug the speaker
[22:45] <ikonia> eie: unplug the speaker, ubuntu doesn't control your bios
[22:45] <rolle> rohan: also, xchat has a channel on here as well.. should be /j #xchat
[22:45] <zack1403> has anyone had good results trying to run WOW on hardy haron?
[22:45] <ikonia> zack1403: tons of people
[22:45] <zack1403> nice
[22:45] <HymnToLife> moreau: o, it is a very good one
[22:45] <zack1403> its installing now but just wanted to check
[22:45] <rohan> rolle: is there a option to add someone so that whenever that person is available i can discuss
[22:45] <l3x> ikonia: i suppose to reboot now to take effect, right?
[22:45] <ikonia> l3x: or restart the x server
[22:46] <netcrash> good evening , any one know alternatives to nautilus ?
[22:46] <HymnToLife> konquerir
[22:46] <eie> ikonia, hmm weird.. windows tweak had something to disable those beeps
[22:46] <rolle> rohan: i think that's called notice or soemthign of the sort.  I'm on here and on icq pretty much 24/7
[22:46] <HymnToLife> s/i/o/
[22:46] <l3x> ikonia: in a few minutes. just to finish my download. thank you very much ikonia
[22:46] <ikonia> eie: ubuntu doesn't control or interact with your bios
[22:46] <rohan> ohhi just figured one ting private chat is also an option :)
[22:47] <Sylphid> im looking for a replacement mini-pci wireless card can anyone recommend a card that gets good range (as that is the issue with my current card) and preferably works out of the box  (intel 2200 is what im currently looking at)
[22:47] <demian> uh... great update people... firefox doesn't work anymore
[22:47] <russ> netcrash, also Dolphin
[22:47] <rolle> eie: you refering to the pc speakers?  Go into volume and disable system pc speakers
[22:47] <demian> anyone know how I can reverse the update?
[22:47] <moreau> HymnToLife: I seem to have problems with FPS in games and I was told to use a non-proprietery driver---is that one considered proprietary? cuz it was automatically istalled when I first installed ubuntu
[22:48] <cypha> someone with a broadcom wireless connection PLEASE HELP
[22:48] <HymnToLife> moreau: it's the one I'm using on my Eee, and it seems to be the best one available, at least it enables direct rendering
[22:48] <dolphin_noel> i'm sorry the question if i just simple change the ... /etc/passwd to root /bin/false after that ... if i make one ... rescue ... the root it still works?! to i can change the ... place ?! ou i need to use it some live cd and mount the system?!
[22:48] <cypha> ubuntu doesn't realize that i have wireless capabilities
[22:48] <eie> rolle, lol thanks Sound - system beeps disabled
[22:48] <dolphin_noel> to change the root file options ...
[22:49] <dolphin_noel> :X
[22:49] <rolle> eie: no problem.. that was the first thing i found out that i wanted to get rid of =p
[22:49] <ryan_> does anyone know off good ssh proxy tutorials or managers?
[22:49] <tkach> I can't access the other computers on the network. I know they are shared, but clicking "Windows Network" just takes a long time and then shows an empty folder. any ideas as to what I may be missing?
[22:49] <eie> rolle, heh same here using wubi for the second time
[22:50] <l3x> tkach: check ip addresses
[22:50] <rolle> eie: what is wubi?  i'm a true noob
[22:50] <eie> !wubi
[22:50] <HymnToLife> rolle: some tool to install Ubuntu from inside Windows
[22:51] <moreau> ok then lets say its a good enough driver to not give me crappy framerates--whatis Mesa3d?  I was told to isntall that as well....but it says its for openGL, and xserer-xorg-video-intel already gives openGL support
[22:51] <Volkodav> what's the alpha 10.4 channel?
[22:51] <HymnToLife> moreau: do    glxinfo | grep -i direct
[22:51] <tkach> l3x if one computers ip ends in 1.2 and the other in 1.3 would that cause a problem
[22:51] <HymnToLife> do you have DR enabled or not ?
[22:51] <unop> demian,  sudo aptitude install firefox=version_you_want
[22:51] <l3x> tkach: i had that problem when my roommate (running windows) rebooted, the switch changed his IP and had the same ip as me on mepis :)
[22:52] <moreau> yea it does have direct rendering
[22:52] <l3x> tkach: is your ip different that the other ones on that network?
[22:52] <eie> guys my pc monitor supports 60Hz and here in ubuntu is set to 50Hz as maximum in System - Screen resolution.. is there a different way to adjust it
[22:52] <demian> unop, thnx I'm installing version 2 via synaptic, weird though
[22:53] <tkach> l3x, my Ubuntu computers network reads <IP_ADDRESS> and the computer I'm trying to connect to reads <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:53] <moreau> but are you sure that the xserver video intel driver isnt just some POS that gives minimal support, just enough to get basic graphics working?
[22:53] <l3x> tkach: if it is a small network, they should be like 192.168.1.*
[22:53] <esac> how can i make the text on the gnome panel white, for example where it has "Applications  Places  System"
[22:54] <l3x> tkach: try the address in file browser smb:/<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:55] <l3x> tkach: if that fails, check firewall settings, and check is samba properly installed on you ubuntu
[22:57] <tkach> l3x, I'm sorry I'm very new to Ubuntu, I just installed it so I could give new life to a struggling machine. where is the file browser? also my windows firewall is turned off
[22:57] <Sylphid> im looking for a replacement mini-pci wireless card can anyone recommend a card that gets good range (as that is the issue with my current card) and preferably works out of the box  (intel 2200 is what im currently looking at)
[22:57] <moreau> tkach click 'places' on the top menu bar
[22:57] <demian> tkach, the filebrowser is top left, Places. You have some pre-defined maps
[22:57] <demian> hehehe
[22:58] <moreau> and theres is no windows firewall in ubuntu
[22:58] <demian> en there is no windows firewall... cause terhe
[22:58] <l3x> hihi
[22:58] <demian> never mind
[22:58] <demian> :)
[22:58] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: I can recommend IPW2200
[22:58] <l3x> demian: there is no windows, right...???
[22:58] <l3x> :)
[22:58] <demian> hehehe
[22:58] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: that's what's in my Thinkpad R50e
[22:58] <demian> damn skippy l3x
[22:58] <l3x> mhm
[22:59] <robini> Hi, i would like to have spell check i my locale lang, in firefox, pidgin and so on... it it aspell i have to install?
[22:59] <moreau> anyone know how to get a USB floppy drive to show up?
[22:59] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, thank you ... out of curiosity what kind of range do you get with it?
[22:59] <gordonjcp> robini: no, you add it as a firefox addon
[22:59] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: don't know, never tried
[22:59] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: "quite a lot"
[22:59] <robini> Ok, then what about pidgin?
[22:59] <moreau> pidgin already has a very annoying spell checker
[22:59] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: far end of a smallish suburban garden, with a crappy router at the wrong side of the house
[23:00] <demian> tkach, if you want a firewall you can install one if you want to. Go to aplications -> Add/Remove select all available aplications and search for firewall
[23:00] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, fair enough ... i lose mine at ~40ft with my current one
[23:00] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, thats exactly what im looking for, thank you much
[23:00] <tkach> smb:/<IP_ADDRESS> turned up nothing, l3x
[23:00] <robini> Ok, i thought there was some kind of system-wide spell checker
[23:00] <demian> robini, you can look it up in synaptic, I think it's myspell
[23:00] <koshari> tkach >places, nautilus is the name of the default file browser
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: even better, it works well with BackTrack
[23:00] <remsoft> demian: i want a firewall to
[23:01] <l3x> tkach: hmmm... dunno
[23:01] <robini> Like if i use x-chat it also uses some kind of spellchecker
[23:01] <tkach> demian, oh I'm just trying to connect to a shared folder
[23:01] <l3x> tkach: what ubuntu version are you using?
[23:01] <gordonjcp> Sylphid: if you find yourself needing to recover lost WEP or WPA-PSK keys, it's the weapon of choice
[23:01] <demian> if you want a firewall you can install one if you want to. Go to aplications -> Add/Remove select all available aplications and search for firewall
[23:01] <robini> Ok, ill try myspell
[23:01] <cypha> can i use the vista driver with ndiswrapper?
[23:01] <tkach> l3x hardy
[23:01] <zelrikriando> Is there a way to avoid ubuntu messing up with my screen luminosity?
[23:01] <koshari> demian linux comes with iptables by DEFAULT
[23:02] <l3x> tkach: in places there should be connect to remote server or something like that
[23:02] <demian> I know.. it's kind of useless... but if he wants one
[23:02] <l3x> tkach: try from there
[23:02] <moreau> anyoneknow why my usb flopy drive isnt showing u
[23:02] <slacking> dmesg
[23:02] <rolle> moreau: is it plugged in?
[23:02] <koshari> demian what do you mean its useless? if you want a fancy gui you can use firestarter to administer iptables
[23:03] <moreau> wtf man
[23:03] <clayg> If I wanted to reinstall ubuntu, would it be fine to just install a new install, then after moving all "my stuff" to the new one, knock out the old partition?
[23:03] <moreau> dont ask me that
[23:03] <clayg> or should I just copy everything in my home dirfectory to a large usb drive and copy it over after installing?
[23:03] <zerogate> how can i move programs from one virtual desktop to another?
[23:03] <clayg> i don't want to leave anything behind
[23:03] <inspyre> whats the channel for the next release?
[23:03] <l3x> mostly, linux users believe that they do not need firewall, because linux is protected as it is... :)))
[23:03] <debian_akroyd> hello all
[23:03] <glitsj16> inspyre: #ubuntu+1
[23:04] <inspyre> ghostbusters akroyd?
[23:04] <Sylphid> gordonjcp, thank you, just the review i needed
[23:04] <demian> koshari, you're right. But you can only get it to work if you're sort of familiar with gnu/linux. He just said he was'nt so then it's kind of useless right?
[23:04] <koshari> clayg first make a aptondvd or personal repo to back up all your updated debs, then copy your home dir, and after install copy things back as required.
[23:04] <inspyre> glitsj16: thanks
[23:05] <koshari> demian true sorta, iptables works out of the box and doesnt need any tweaking unless you want ot.
[23:05] <clayg> koshari, is that as easy as grabbing aptondvd ? or are there other things involved?
[23:05] <zelrikriando> How do I avoid ubuntu to mess around with my screen luminosity?
[23:06] <robini> myspell did the trick, thanks!
[23:06] <koshari> clayg yes it is, however personally i uses dpkg scanpackages to keep a current repo on my ipod as i maintain about 4 machines that dont have broadband access.
[23:06] <linch7> Q: does someone know how search through old shell commands?
[23:06] <cypha> Should i use the Vista driver or the XP driver with NDISWRAPPER for my broadcom wireless?
[23:06] <ubuntu__> hi
[23:07] <clayg> koshari, so it will  just be references to the programs i have installed not the actual program right
[23:07] <remsoft> the XP driver works you can use it
[23:07] <debian_akroyd> ubuntu__, hello
[23:07] <clayg> koshari, tried "dpkg scanpackage" didn't work , what am i doing wrong?
[23:07] <ubuntu__> where i can see what controller sata my computer is usung
[23:07] <l3x> is lenny out??
[23:07] <Chainfire> Hi all. I'm running Ubuntu Server 8 (*nix-semi-nub, set it up yesterday). I'm trying to get internet sharing to work. However, I'm having some trouble with dhcp3-server. It insists on giving my Vista (ugh) laptop two gateways, <IP_ADDRESS> (?) and <IP_ADDRESS> (correct).  Found more people on the net with this problem, but no so
[23:08] <koshari> clayg your home dir will keep all the user config files (as well as your personal data) for all the installed apps.
[23:08] <victor__> Hi, I have a problem with MythTV: I can scan digital channels with my Kworld ATSC 120 TV Tuner, but Myth TV can't play them; there's a black screen when I watch TV
[23:08] <ikonia> Chainfire: it doesnt give <IP_ADDRESS> as a gateway
[23:08] <debian_akroyd> l3x, i dont think so. i think there still in beta..check their website to be sure
[23:08] <inspyre> ubuntu__: lspci -v?
[23:08] <ikonia> Chainfire: thats a destination (default)
[23:08] <koshari> clayg there usually hidden directorys ie, .nautilus, .gedit ect
[23:08] <l3x> M'kay debian_akroyd, thanks
[23:08] <Chainfire> ikonia> it shows up as default gateway under "ipconfig /all" in Vista...
[23:09] <l3x> +
[23:09] <Chainfire> how do I get rid of it?
[23:09] <koshari> victor__ google garry parker mythtv it has a very good guide
[23:09] <ikonia> Chainfire: pastebin ipconfig /all in vista into a pastebin please.
[23:09] <zerogate> how can i move programs from one virtual desktop to another?
[23:09] <clayg> koshari, thanks, last question. Would you insall another install in a new partition, move then delete the old parition? or just copy the home dir then tear the whole thing down and install?
[23:09] <l3x> sorry, i kicked my keyboard :)
[23:09] <Chainfire> yessir *runs to other computer*
[23:09] <Soopa> hi all
[23:09] <debian_akroyd> lol l3x
[23:10] <Soopa> i'm looking for torrents of gtk and emerald themes
[23:10] <l3x> they released 4.0r4 :)
[23:10] <Soopa> any idea if there are any?
[23:10] <ikonia> Soopa: visit gnome-look.org and download direct, they are not big
[23:10] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd hasnt used debian in a while..stuck on ubuntu
[23:11] <Soopa> ikonia: well, I'd like to download a whole bunch at a time
[23:11] <l3x> the future ubuntu will have kde as default??? what about that??? did you read that?
[23:11] <l3x> ubuntu is future of linux
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> kde??
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> that sucks
[23:11] <ikonia> Soopa: they are only a few K - its the same ammount of clicks as clicking "download"
[23:11] <koshari> clayg personally i would use a new install as the last resort, what i do is install ubuntu, with a decent sized second parttiion available. i then use partimage to make a snapshot of the system and save it on hte second partition after running update util. that way i have a methood of recovery back to current state which takes about 14 minutes.
[23:11] <l3x> if any distro does big bada boom, it would be ubuntu!
[23:11] <Soopa> ikonia: I suppose you're right :)  I'm just lazy :)
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd hates kde
[23:11] <l3x> KDE rules!
[23:11] <debian_akroyd> im a gnome fan
[23:11] <koshari> clayg whats your actual problem?
[23:12] <zelrikriando> How do I 'lock' my screen luminosity on ubuntu?
[23:12] <ikonia> Soopa: it's less lazy than downloading and setting up torrents
[23:12] <debian_akroyd> << has been using gnome since ubuntu 5.04
[23:12] <l3x> debian_akroyd: why is debian_akroyd talking from third person??? :) that is funny
[23:12] <debian_akroyd> ll
[23:12] <debian_akroyd> lol**
[23:13] <l3x> i read that new versions of ubuntu will have kde as default desktop
[23:13] <clayg> koshari, I want to install but still have the old programs , email settings and other things stay the same
[23:13] <l3x> which is great! because of better programs for kde:)))))
[23:13] <ikonia> l3x: you read wrong, and this is off topic for a support channel, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter
[23:13] <debian_akroyd> l3x, 8.10 will have kde as default? well...ok
[23:13] <debian_akroyd> :*(
[23:13] <inspyre> they may as well call it gayde
[23:13] <elexodus> Anyone know where to get help for proftp on irc?
[23:13] <arthur> i have a questin pretaining to operamini and how or if you can get flash to work on a smartphone?
[23:13] <l3x> not 8.10, next one i think
[23:13] <clayg> koshari,  but if all is stored in the home directory then i can just copy that over.  The last question was personal preference and from what you saw it makes no difference which order I do them in or in which way
[23:13] <ikonia> debian_akroyd: they are 2 different versions, kubuntu has kde as default, ubuntu has gnome
[23:14] <debian_akroyd> 8.10 is the next one lex
[23:14] <`brooks> poll: best development interface for java, c++ ?
[23:14] <l3x> sorry for offtopic... i just wanted to see if that is true or not...
[23:14] <ikonia> l3x: please stop talking nonsense, ubuntu and kubuntu are two seperate products
[23:14] <debian_akroyd> l3x, they have a version of ubuntu titled kubuntu which has kde installed as default
[23:14] <dustrial> `brooks:  try netbeans?
[23:14] <debian_akroyd> regular ubuntu itself has gnome
[23:14] <koshari> clayg you are aware you can roll back things you installed in synaptic my checking the history file, and you can use remove completely and reinstall to replace apps that may be problemsome?
[23:14] <`brooks> will do, dustrial. ty.
[23:14] <Flapperbol> I tried to install something, and now ubuntu locked a folder of mine. does anyone know how to unlock it?
[23:15] <Flapperbol> It just says I don't have permission to open the folder
[23:15] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is afk
[23:15] <clayg> koshari, wasn't aware of it but it seems like every 6 months or so , so much crap has been changed that i begin having problems.  I have a google earth install that crashes xserver, I don't know how to remove it ,it wasn't installed via synaptic or apt, the computer hangs when starting alot of window-esk problems that I think would be less effort just reinstalling than trying to figure out each and everyone
[23:15] <dustrial> what does ls -l say? Flapperbol?
[23:16] <koshari> clayg your email settings will be derived fron settings contained in your home /.evolution or whatever email proggie your using
[23:16] <clayg> koshari,  then there are the many programs i tried but never use and don't know whihc ones they are since i dont' use them
[23:16] <clayg> koshari,  awesome man, thanks
[23:16] <Flapperbol> dustrial: drwxrwx---  31 root       games       4096 2008-07-27 23:56 Downloads
[23:16] <clayg> koshari, sounds like the home copy is the best method
[23:17] <clayg> koshari, i think i'll install an another parition, then copy over and destroy the old parition then resize the new
[23:17] <dustrial> Flapperbol: and root cant use it?
[23:17] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is back
[23:18] <koshari> clayg then look into creating a partimage  backup when all is well, then you will just need to roll back the old partition, run update with your saved debs and your back in town
[23:18] <Chainfire> ikonia> http://pastebin.com/m48f19638
[23:18] <Flapperbol> dustrial: srry, a bit new to ubuntu. how do i login as root?
[23:18] <Pici> !root | Flapperbol
[23:18] <ikonia> Chainfire: I'd say thats a bug with windows to be hones,t you can't have 2 default gateways
[23:18] <root_> list
[23:19] <Chair> I'm interested in learning ubuntu.  I heard I can install it on my computer while I already have windows.. would I have to make a partition for it?  I've got two partitions now, one with xp and some free space, and the other with programs and free space.  Would I be able to install it on my program filled partition with no problems?
[23:19] <jrolson> nickrud you here?
[23:19] <dustrial> '$ sudo -s'   or '$ sudo su ' that is you type : sudo su --- the $ indecates that you are just a normal user
[23:19] <koshari> Chair hoe big is your free space
[23:19] <debian_akroyd> Chair, theres a little program on the ubuntu cd which will install ubuntu on your computer w/o repartitioning
[23:19] <dustrial> Flapperbol: read man pages to chown to unlock the folder
[23:20] <clayg> koshari, you da man now dog! thanks alot man, it'll be nice sliding into a new install.  Whenever my bro comesover he updates everyting and I get a crap load of kernels in my grub list, of coarse the newest version also seems to usually suck
[23:20] <Chainfire> ikonia> im not the only person having this prob with dhcp3-server ... lemme hook up some other comps... btw it worked fine with our other routers...
[23:20] <koshari> debian_akroyd i wouldnt use wubi
[23:20] <Chair> 25gb on my windows partition, 125gb on my programs partion
[23:20] <xelurg> Chair, if you want even less hassle - use VMWare and install it as a virtual machine.
[23:20] <ikonia> Chainfire: routers ?
[23:20] <ikonia> Chainfire: why are you using dhcp with routers
[23:20] <Flapperbol> dustrial: okay, as root i can enter it
[23:20] <Chainfire> uhm... well routers ;) "adsl-routers" and such
[23:20] <Flapperbol> i think something went wrong when I was installing
[23:20] <Chainfire> i'm replacing one of them with this box
[23:21] <debian_akroyd> Chair, well you could just split your programs partition so that ubuntu has 10 to 20 gig of free space
[23:21] <dustrial> Flapperbol:   yeah you should read about  permissions and changing permissions ... otherwise ubuntu is hard to use from console (terminal or commandline )
[23:21] <jrolson> I have 2 questions today. I got an email today that has a link for a video to watch on a website. When I go to the website it says that I need to update my flash player. Are there other flash players available besides adobe? I'm new to ubuntu so bear with me.
[23:21] <koshari> clayg you can easily remove the older kernel entries in grub by commenting them out in the menu.1st file
[23:21] <debian_akroyd> Chair, that is if you want 20 gig for ubuntu
[23:21] <omar> hi, does anyone know if I can shrink an NTFS partition with gparted, and is it safe to do it without loss of data?
[23:21] <ikonia> Chainfire: ok - so I don't see how thats relevant, a client should allow 2 default gateways on one card, so no matter if dhcp-server has a problem or not, I suspect there is a bug with the windows dhcp client
[23:22] <mad> is there a way to have apt-get check dependinces and remove packages that are no longer needed but got pulled in by another package? ( note if apt-get is debian, sorry and ill hop over there)
[23:22] <omar> actually, I want to resize my partitions, I want to shrink NTFS, and increase ext3 partition
[23:22] <ikonia> mad: autoremove is the option I think
[23:22] <debian_akroyd> omar, what ever you do, you still risk loosing data
[23:23] <mavsman4457> Hi I just downloaded kvpnc but I don't really know how to use it, are there any public PPTP servers that I can use?
[23:23] <mad> ikonia: autoremove is not anoption with apt-get there is autoclean but it just remove distfiles and not the installed packages i believe
[23:24] <Chainfire> ikonia ok... ill reset the ip stack on vista and see what happens... *crosses fingers* don't know why i didnt try that before though, hmm
[23:24] <dustrial> Flapperbol:  http://www.google.de/search?q=linux+permissions&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a     some pages to understand the output of $ls -l  and how to change it
[23:24] <ikonia> mad: autoremove should get rid of obsoulte package
[23:24] <dustrial> btw how do i use the bot?
[23:24] <omar> debian_akroyd, ok, I just found about ntfsresize to shrink my partition "without data loss", if I shrink it, is gparted suitable to increase my ext3 partition?, or should I use another app?
[23:24] <koshari> omar it should work, however ALWAYS backup data before atempting these sort of tasks, actually you should have a backup plan in place already if the drive was to dies immediately
[23:25] <debian_akroyd> omar, gparted can shrink partitions as well as expand them
[23:25] <TheBlasphemer> How can I set up my MythBuntu box to automatically mount USB external drives once I plug them in ?
[23:25] <omar> koshari, I just backed up the important data
[23:25] <koshari> omar gparted would call ntfsresize during its routine, gparted is bacsicly a framework which uses all the disk utikls
[23:25] <l3x> I'll be back
[23:25] <Flapperbol> thanks dustrial
[23:25] <zerogate> omar, you just have to make sure you do it from the live cd, you cannot change paritions where your current running os is placed on
[23:25] <omar> koshari, thats nice :D, didnt know about that, just installed ntfsprogs
[23:26] <omar> zerogate, mmmm, ok, downloading gparted live cd
[23:26] <derrich> I need to install ffmpeg with liba52 enabled - how can I do this through aptitude?
[23:26] <zerogate> omar, you can use the ubuntu live cd
[23:26] <derrich> liba52 support enabled, I mean
[23:26] <debian_akroyd> i believe ffmpeg comes installed by default on ubuntu
[23:26] <zerogate> how can i move programs from one virtual desktop to another?
[23:27] <omar> zerogate, roger, I have to burn it anyways :D, got the alternate CD
[23:27] <dustrial> zerogate:  you mean virtual machine?
[23:27] <rolle> success :)  system, preference, sounds,  changed from autodetect to another option =)
[23:27] <sugi> I just installed Morrowind on p4 1.8 GHz, Gb PC 3200, ATI 9600 SE Directed Rendering Enabled.  The game won't start up.  The Launcher works but no game.  http://pastebin.com/m5fe4156f
[23:27] <orbital_fox> there you are
[23:27] <derrich> debian_akroyd: ffmpeg wasn't installed by default, so i installed it manually. but to do what i'm trying to do, i need ffmpeg to have liba52 support, which isn't the 'default' option within aptitude
[23:27] <zerogate> dustrial, no i mean "workspace".
[23:28] <derrich> I'm new to Ubuntu, so I don't know how to specify extra functionality for programs within aptitude
[23:28] <Chainfire> ikonia> myeah fixed it with ip/stack reset... @$#@# vista! thx anyways.
[23:28] <dustrial> zerogate:  from one users desktop to a nother users desktop ?
[23:28] <zerogate> dustrial, the things you can switch by pressing ctrl+alt+right
[23:28] <debian_akroyd> derrich, i would use synaptic to look for liba52
[23:28] <xiantia_> bye all
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> dustrial, that will install it and enable it
[23:29] <mavsman4457> What program can I use in ubuntu that is similar to time machine on mac?
[23:29] <derrich> debian_akroyd: that package is already installed
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> hmm
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> ok
[23:29] <derrich> liba52 was installed prior to ffmpeg
[23:29] <koshari> derrich the standard ffmpg in the repos is hamstrung to comply with some countrys laws. there is a version in medibuntu thats a bit more thourough
[23:29] <dustrial> debian_akroyd: ?
[23:29] <zerogate> dustrial, don'T know what it'S called in english. there are symbols for them in the lower right corner (at least in gnome)
[23:29] <Fiona> anyone know how i get ubuntu?
[23:29] <debian_akroyd> dustrial, what is it you are trying to do with ffmpeg?
[23:29] <dustrial> zerogate:  i guess that is some compiz thing or something, i dont know?
[23:29] <derrich> koshari: i'm pretty new to ubuntu - are you saying that i need to enable some other software repository to install a non-crippled version of it?
[23:30] <cypherdelic> What about adding 16:10 aspect ratio mode to Totem??
[23:30] <johncoltrane> how are you guys doing? Does anyone know what my problem might be if every time I boot into ubuntu it freezes after a few seconds?
[23:30] <johncoltrane> no mouse response or anything
[23:30] <dustrial> zerogate:  ah now i see ... okay  .. well they are soupposed to be the same ... file structure ...  so just save it in the correct directory
[23:30] <mavsman4457> Whats the best backup solution for ubuntu?
[23:31] <koshari> derrich yes
[23:31] <koshari> !medibuntu
[23:31] <dustrial> debian_akroyd:  was not me =)
[23:31] <zerogate> dustrial, i mean when i'Ve launched a program while viewing virtual dekstop 1 - and i want to drag this launched program to virtual desktop 2
[23:31] <derrich> ok, thanks - i'll start reading now
[23:31] <dustrial> zerogate:  gnome or kde?
[23:31] <derrich> generally speaking, is it 'safe' to add 3rd-party software repos like that?
[23:31] <zerogate> dustrial, gnome
[23:32] <mavsman4457> How do I back up my system?
[23:32] <Gillpy> ee
[23:32] <zerogate> dustrial, just found out that i can rightclick the window decoration and move it - you know of any other way`?
[23:32] <dustrial> zerogate:  i didn't use gnome for a long periode ... but maybe you can right click the program in the "taskbar" and say move to desktop number 2 .... or you
[23:33] <dustrial> zerogate:  drag n drop it into the minimap
[23:34] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, search the repository for backup software
[23:34] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, they have tons of programs that will do just that
[23:34] <Mr_Bad_News> how the f do you install luadoc?
[23:34] <zerogate> dustrial, drag and drop doesnt work but the right click thing works. ive also just found out about this.thx
[23:34] <legend2440> !backup | mavsman4457
[23:34] <mavsman4457> debian_akroyd: I did that but I was wondering if there was a preferred one among the community
[23:35] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, you could use tar to do that
[23:35] <glitsj16> mavsman4457: FlyBack tries to emulate timemachine on ubuntu --> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/introducing-flyback-apples-time-machine.html
[23:35] <debian_akroyd> but i havent used tar for backing up for a long time so i cant provide much help there mavsman4457
[23:35] <debian_akroyd> !tar
[23:36] <debian_akroyd> hmm
[23:36] <debian_akroyd> ubottu didnt provide what i was looking for....
[23:36] <koshari> derrich i use that repo and havnt had any drama,
[23:36] <mavsman4457> Alright I'm sorry if I asked this question way too many times but my internet connection is messed up so I might be on delay, thanks for the answers
[23:36] <derrich> koshari: ok, cool. thanks.
[23:37] <koshari>  derrich however your point is valad, it not good practice to go adding repositorys all and sundry
[23:37] <debian_akroyd> mavsman4457, no problem
[23:37] <johncoltrane> my ubuntu just freezes a few seconds after I boot, can anyone help??
[23:38] <riegersn> how can i allow all my computers on my home network 192.168.1.* in firestarter?
[23:40] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is afk
[23:40] <riegersn> how can i allow all my computers on my home network 192.168.1.* in firestarter?
[23:41] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:41] <Sylphid> i have xchat installed which requires tk8.4 as a dependency however i need tk8.5 for homegrown scripts. how can I get xchat to not report as broken with tk8.5 installed instead of tk8.4?
[23:41] <pgreptom> Hi.  I just cold booted, and for some reason X was messedu p, was only displaying 640x480.  I re-configured x, and now am fully back online.  however, my widescreen monitor no longer takes a 1440x900 resolution, and I don't know why.  I try to change it with nvidia settings program, but it does not work.  any idea?
[23:42] <th0r> Sylphid, you could always compile from source
[23:42] <glitsj16> johncoltrane: anything in your logs to start looking for what might be causing that ?
[23:43] <whta> any way to make volume in flash apps not so soft? I have sound in them, but they're much softer than everything else
[23:44] <td123> whta: maybe turn the other apps down a little
[23:44] <riegersn> how can i allow all my computers on my home network 192.168.1.* in firestarter?
[23:45] <elexodus_> Anyone know where to get help for proftp on irc?
[23:45] <elexodus_> Anyone know where to get help for proftp at all?
[23:45] <ikonia> elexodus_: what sort of help
[23:45] <null> riegnersn: to allow all local network on a 192.168.1.* range you need to add a new rule that looks something like this <IP_ADDRESS>/24 allowing all inbound connections
[23:45] <mlLK> !virtualbox
[23:45] <td123> riegersn: if no one answers you, you could try http://www.fs-security.com/
[23:45] <elexodus_> ikonia: having problems with my proftpd.conf file
[23:46] <ikonia> elexodus_: what sort of problems
[23:46] <td123> riegersn: start with the documentation
[23:46] <riegersn> td123, have
[23:46] <elexodus_> ikonia: " Fatal: error processing configuration file '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'"
[23:46] <ikonia> elexodus_: ok - what does the log file say
[23:46] <koshari> riegersn man iptables
[23:46] <debian_akroyd> debian_akroyd, is back
[23:47] <ikonia> elexodus_: whats in the /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf file
[23:48] <koshari> riegersn specificly -s, --source
[23:48] <Bert_2> hi, how do I change the UUID of a partition ?
[23:48] <ikonia> Bert_2: you don't
[23:48] <ikonia> Bert_2: it changes when you change something physical about the partition
[23:49] <Bert_2> ikonia: what do you do then when you copy a partition ?
[23:49] <elexodus_> ikonia: nothing in the logs, here's the proftpd.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1084665
[23:49] <Mr_Bad_News> http://pastebin.com/m7b11f649
[23:49] <ikonia> Bert_2: what do you mean ?
[23:49] <Mr_Bad_News> anyone?
[23:49] <mlLK> when running a virtual machine are the guest's drivers irrelevant?
[23:50] <koshari> mlLK no they are needed to use things like dynamic display size and pulse-audio interaction work properly
[23:50] <Blaqlight> question : how do I render a space in a filename for a directory containing a space in it.
[23:50] <Bert_2> ikonia: when I backup a partition (I copy it to another disc) it keeps the same UUID, so mount is all fucked up and confused afterwards and some guys told me "just change the UUID of the copy), but I can't find how
[23:50] <ikonia> Bert_2: that language is uncalled for
[23:50] <mlLK> koshari, so the host takes care of everything?
[23:51] <mlLK> koshari, as far as hardware
[23:51] <Bert_2> ikonia: huh ?
[23:51] <ikonia> elexodus_: try commenting out options
[23:51] <debian_akroyd> omfg rofl
[23:51] <ixj> if i upgrade to 8.04 (lts) will i be able to upgrade to 8.10 later? or will i be stuck in only being able to easily upgrade to a new lts version?
[23:51] <koshari> mlLK in most VM software you set up the host, install the guest then in the guest environment setup the drivers
[23:51] <Blaqlight> im trying to call a directory that has a space in it, how do I do this without changing the directory name.
[23:51] <ikonia> Bert_2: bad language is not welcome in this channel, if you can't explain a problem without using it - don't speak
[23:51] <eie> what is the best player to install for firefox in ubuntu Adobe Flash Player, Swfdec player for adobe/macromedia or Gnash SWF PLayer?
[23:52] <linch7> Q: does someone know how to change to vi-mode in bash?
[23:52] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: quoting the dir name doesn't cut it ?
[23:52] <smokewon> Hey there, ive got composite rendering enabled in my xorg.conf, and it works well with compiz fusion, but java applets flicker in firefox when i have the composite option enabled, is there some way to fix this?
[23:52] <Scunizi> eie: I use the adobe one and works fine.
[23:52] <Bert_2> ikonia: ow sorry, did that excidentialy, excuse me
[23:52] <ikonia> elexodus_: I can't see anything obvious wong with that file
[23:52] <ikonia> Bert_2: sure, no problem
[23:52] <ikonia> Bert_2: how are you backing up the partition ?
[23:52] <koshari> Bert_2 are you copying it back to the exext location?
[23:52] <debian_akroyd> eie, definately not swfdec..i would choose gnash
[23:53] <Bert_2> ikonia koshari: I use gparted, to just copy the partition from one disc to another
[23:53] <mlLK> koshari, what about laptops
[23:53] <ikonia> Bert_2: how do you copy the partition
[23:53] <Blaqlight> this program is looking for a background in a folder named "widescreen pics" it can't find it because of the space.
[23:53] <dustrial> mlLK:  the guests driver should be compatible with the hardware the virtual machine program " provides"
[23:53] <ikonia> Bert_2: if your making a partition with gparted it shouldn't have the same uuid
[23:53] <mlLK> koshari, windows is running naked w/o its hp drivers
[23:53] <koshari> Bert_2 you will prolly fint the uuid issue has more to do with the grub/fstab entry
[23:53] <eie> thanks
[23:53] <ugly_one> I have very strange problem: in random period of time (from 5 to 20 seconds) system totally freezes. When I move my mouse or typa something on keyboard everything start to working till the next freez. Any solution?
[23:54] <Bert_2> ikonia koshari: if you copy a partition with gparted it leaves the UUID intact for as far as I know
[23:54] <Mr_Bad_News> make: *** [.build-boxnet-i486-linux-gnu-4.1.3/CMakeCache.txt] Error 255
[23:54] <Greyscale> !webcams
[23:54] <ikonia> Bert_2: how are you copying a partition with gpared ?
[23:54] <ikonia> gparted ?
[23:54] <rolle> I have closed my FF3, yet this is still showing up when trying to open FF3 Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[23:54] <koshari> mlLK you dont need to worry about the HP drivers, you need to install the host drivers, remeber the guest OS boesnt know what hardware its running in, it only sees the host environment and therefore things the host (or virtual machine) is real hardware and therefore needs the host drivers
[23:55] <Bert_2> ikonia: just click on the partition, RM -> copy and then paste onto free space on another disc
[23:55] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: tried "\" before the space yet ?
[23:55] <elexodus__> ikonia: HEre's the backup of the original proftpd.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1084674
[23:55] <elexodus__> ikonia, sorry, my router just needed to be reset real quick.
[23:55] <elexodus__> ikonia, did you get the pastebin?
[23:55] <zerogate> i am trying to build something which needs "gio-2.0" - do you know what i have to install to get this pkg?
[23:56] <koshari> Bert_2 you should use partimage to copy a partition,
[23:56] <ZStar> How do I connect my computer to the wireless router?  I just formatted and installed ubuntu
[23:56] <ikonia> Bert_2: thats an interesting approach
[23:56] <ikonia> elexodus__: I got the paste - I couldn't see anything wrong with it
[23:56] <debian_akroyd> well i gtg, cya all later
[23:56] <ikonia> elexodus__: try making one change at a time from the default
[23:56] <Bert_2> ikonia: it's the easiest approach
[23:56] <mlLK> koshari, i see; it's like a bloated app
[23:56] <elexodus__> ikonia, did it. also mixed the 2 together. nothing
[23:57] <koshari>  mlLK more like an application layer
[23:57] <ikonia> Bert_2: yes, I can see thats quite straight forward, I don't see how the uuid can be the same though, I'd need to do more research, I've never done that approach
[23:57] <Blaqlight> glitsj16: no is that how you call a space in a directory? I mean I can put _ in the directory if I have to but Id rather not.
[23:57] <rolle> ZStar: right click on the network connection.  Make sure it says connect to wireless.  Or you can get wifi-radar--that prog works well for me
[23:57] <ikonia> elexodus__: have you started it with the default file ?
[23:57] <koshari>  mlLK parts of the layer will only be using resources wen called
[23:57] <elexodus__> ikonia, I have the port forwarded, the static IP... I just don't know. Let me try that.\
[23:57] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: yes, widescreen\ pics should work
[23:57] <mlLK> koshari, what as far as my memory?
[23:57] <ikonia> elexodus__: portforwarding and static IP's is nothing to do with a config file not being correct, they are all done outside of proftpd
[23:57] <Mr_Bad_News> what do i do if i upgrade linux generic 2.14.2 whatever to 15 and it doesnt boot?
[23:57] <Bert_2> ikonia: well, it has been some time since I experienced it, so I'm going to check it myself too, I hope it has been fixed, but it was a real issue in the dapper times and some guy claimed it was still an issue
[23:57] <Mr_Bad_News> that happend to me twice now
[23:58] <koshari> mlLK the VM will reserve a portion of memory determined by you for the VM client to use
[23:58] <Bert_2> ikonia: I'm now copying a FAT32 filesystem and it keeps the UUID in place
[23:58] <ikonia> Bert_2: I find that most odd
[23:59] <ZStar> it would be a hassle to connect the computer to the router through a cable
[23:59] <koshari> Bert_2 the uuid is a virtual disc serial number nothing more
[23:59] <Blaqlight> glitsj16: yeah that worked thanks. Ive never had to do that before.. strange eh?
[23:59] <clayg> if i want to copy my home directory to my ipod, can i just drag the folder over to it or do i need to issue some special command to  make sure no hiddens are left behind?