[01:26] <user|31695> hi, is there an easy way to upgrade lts 14.04 to 16.04?
[01:27] <user|31695> i find only descriptions for ubuntu, but not for kubuntu
[01:28] <user|31695> or I have to go over each update like 14.10 15.04 15.10 and then 16.04? :/
 the upgrade is the same for ubuntu, kubuntu ect:
[01:30] <pasjrwoctx_> use this via command line do-release-upgrade
[01:30] <user|31695> ah, thank you :)
[01:31] <user|31695> :/ then I get there are no new releases (in german on a german installation)
[01:33] <pasjrwoctx_> not sure about that. I did an upgrade when 16.04 came out on my laptop that way.
[01:33] <user|31695> only if I use -d -c I get 16.04 showed
[01:34] <user|31695> so it should work if I do do-release-upgrade -d, but is that the right way?
[01:35] <user|31695> 16.04 is a final release for kubuntu, or?
[01:36] <user|31695> I did it finally in this way and it look like it will work :) thank you and a nice night
[01:37] <pasjrwoctx_> you to. and no kubuntu as with all ubuntu distros will keep going on providing there are people willing to both use and devlope.
[01:39] <ilhami> KDE's discover tool is all messed up though
[01:39] <ilhami> Discover = software store
[01:52] <abhishek> how can I update my kde version in kubuntu 16.04?
[02:04] <abhishek> is it okay to do so? Should one wait for the kubuntu next version only?
[03:33] <abhishek> how can I disable my touchpad while typing, it is not as it on hp laptop running kubuntu 16.04
[03:36] <abhishek> k this works : syndaemon -i 1 -K -d
[05:21] <Azure_Chaos> If any of the developers are on i just want to say thank you for the backports with 5.6 i asked about yesturday it solved all my issues with kde crashing all the time
[06:13] <YuxKukMo> hi guys! short question: where is located the file that allows me to modify search settings ? i just disabled from settings>search>plasma search all search plugins> hit apply  and then returned to search and all search plugins were enabled again
[06:21] <Roeytaur> hello
[06:21] <Roeytaur> anyone here?
[06:21] <Roeytaur> I'm having issues w/bluetoof
[06:25] <Roeytaur> hiiiii
[06:25] <Roeytaur> hey do any of you guys know bluetooth?
[06:35] <vedu> Hello. How can I find out how much space the /lost+found dir is using?
[06:37] <YuxKukMo> vedu: du -h lost+found
[06:48] <vedu> Thanks!!
[06:52] <Quetzalcoatl> vedu: you are welcome:)
[10:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:14] <Guest5725> Am I doing something wrong here http://i.imgur.com/SvekYa1.jpg
[12:15] <abhishek> hey!
[12:15] <abhishek> I takes 2min 16sec to boot in my kubuntu 16.04
[12:16] <abhishek> any way speed this up?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> ABIX_Adamj, got any other partitions or drives attached?  make sure you have them entered in fstab
[12:21] <BluesKaj> abhishek,^
[12:22] <abhishek> hi
[12:22] <Guest5725> wb
[12:22] <BluesKaj> abhishek,, got any other partitions or drives attached?  make sure you have them entered in fstab
[12:23] <abhishek> BluesKaj, yeah I have windows partition as well I am running kubuntu on dual with windows
[12:25] <abhishek> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16555922/
[12:25] <abhishek> ^ cat /etc/fstab
[12:27] <abhishek> BluesKaj, sudo fdisk -l gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/16555976/
[12:27] <abhishek> what to add?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> abhishek, nothing, unless you have an outboard drive connected
[12:30] <abhishek> BluesKaj, any other speedup?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> it won't show in fstab unlessadd an entry for it
[12:31] <BluesKaj> abhishek, only, have you updated and upgraded lately?
[12:31] <abhishek> BluesKaj, I did a clean install of kubuntu 16.04
[12:32] <BluesKaj> no matter, you need to update and upgrade
[12:35] <abhishek> I did  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:36] <abhishek> sudo apt-get full upgrade also
[12:39] <abhishek> hmm
[12:40] <BluesKaj> abhishek, also sudo update-grub
[12:41] <abhishek> BluesKaj, I did that a while ago, no effect
[12:41] <rajiv1> I did a fresh install of kubuntu 16.04. Why sometimes when installing a package by using "apt-get install <<package name>>, the package has been broken.? How to successfully complete the installation of that same package?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> abhishek, check your syslog in /var/log to see what might be causing your system to spend so much time booting
[12:44] <BluesKaj> rajiv1, what is the package name ?
[12:45] <rajiv1> Blueskaj: wine
[12:45] <abhishek> BluesKaj, it too big to make sense :p
[12:45] <BluesKaj> look for an error, abhishek
[12:46] <BluesKaj> rajiv1, install kubuntu-restricted-extras, that might help
[12:48] <Guest5725> Why is http://i.imgur.com/SvekYa1.jpg not booting up D>
[12:48] <abhishek> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16556672/
[12:49] <rajiv1> BluesKaj: but kubuntu-restricted-extras are mainly for media codecs and fonts for kubuntu.
[12:49] <abhishek> this is what I had tried before when I got a boot error before http://askubuntu.com/a/775529/417607
[12:51] <Guest5725> I wish I got so far that I got an error
[12:52] <Guest5725> the thing wont even boot
[12:55] <BluesKaj> rajiv1, i thought wine used java etc and maybe some of those libs were missing and would come in by installing the extras
[12:56] <abhishek> hmmm..
[12:57] <BluesKaj> abhishek, what about winetricks or playonlinux?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> oops rajiv1^
[12:58] <BluesKaj> soryy abhishek
[12:58] <abhishek> np
[12:59] <rajiv1> BluesKaj: i am installing it.
[13:01] <Rockyfelle> . -.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> abhishek, looks like a hardware problem, do toiu have a pci card installed like a graphics or soundcard?
[13:03] <abhishek> BluesKaj, not sure , this is my pc specs: http://www.hpshopping.in/HP_Pavilion_Notebook_-_15-ab549tx
[13:04] <BluesKaj> abhishek, but you haven't installed a pci card of any kind yourself then?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> oh , notebook
[13:04] <abhishek> no
[13:04] <abhishek> I haven't
[13:06] <BluesKaj> abhishek, still have windows installed ?
[13:09] <abhishek> BluesKaj, yeah
[13:13] <BluesKaj> abhishek, that window uefiboot and kubuntu installation mix is something i don't know much about
[14:06] <Roey> hi
[14:07] <Roey> I do 'hcitool dev' and it says 'no devices found' when there's a bluetooth dongle connected via usb...
[14:13] <M-DarthShader> Hey guys. I'd like some help please - my login screen is broken. I boot -> black screen -> ctrl alt f2 gets me a console that works.
[14:14] <mlc> Dear Kubuntu Users, i need help to resolve my problem that Google doesn't... On my laptop kubuntu 16.04 LTS + kodi where's connected a TV trough HDMI, Turning on/off TV makes suspend laptop.  The graphic card is intel HD 4000
[15:40] <user|67493> Hey guys, I have a problem with my driver management. Every time I open it it collects data about my system and nothing happens. How can I fix this or is this a known bug that'll be fixed in the future?
[15:47] <acheron88> user|67493  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Known_Problems
[15:47] <acheron88> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1530523
[15:49] <acheron88> running 'ubuntu-drivers' in a terminal is supposed to be a functional workaround according to that report
[16:01] <Simplar> Hello. How to enable USB WiFi in Kubuntu 16.04? Thanks!
[16:08] <ilhami> hey.
[16:10] <yotux> ilhami: hello need help with something?
[16:11] <nicols> hello everybody!
[16:11] <BluesKaj> hi ilhami, yotux, nicols
[16:11] <yotux> hello
[16:12] <nicols> can someone help me with this: i have problem with tooltips ingtk apps in kubuntu
[16:12] <nicols> in gtk apps like gimp
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Simplar, click on the network manager icon in the panel and see if your wifi appears to be active
[16:12] <nicols> tooltips are white text on light grey ... unreadable
[16:13] <yotux> nicols: change your KDE theme maybe?
[16:13] <yotux> I'm installing gimp to see what mine looks like....
[16:14] <nicols> yotux: i am on breeze, and i really like it
[16:15] <BluesKaj> nicols, systemsettings>workspace theme>desktop theme , choose a theme that is dark in colour,  breeze dark perhaps
[16:16] <nicols> thunderbird and firefox are ok... inkscape and gimp have problem with tooltips
[16:16] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: BTW - new plasma is in the PPA
[16:16] <Smurphy> and works nice :)
[16:16] <BluesKaj> those are gtk settings
[16:16] <BluesKaj> nicols,^
[16:16] <nicols> BluesKaj: but i like standard breeze (light one)
[16:17] <Smurphy> Other quesiton  though. I will install KUBuntu 16.04 on my work laptop (Dell Latitude E7440). What's the best way to encrypt the home-directory ?
[16:17] <Smurphy> Any hjints ?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> yotux, sorry those are gtk settings separate from plasma
[16:17] <yotux> that is what I was about to say after reading what you posted
[16:17] <yotux> kde theme will not edit your GTK software titles
[16:18] <yotux> thanks for allowing me to learn BluesKaj
[16:18] <BluesKaj> yotux, system settings.\>application style>gnome
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, I've never encrypted /home , don't think it's all that difficult , it's usually done during the install phase iirc
[16:20] <Smurphy> yes - so I see ...
[16:21] <Smurphy> I'll have to check some of the existing options.
[16:21] <Smurphy> I tend to encrypt my data myself... But for work, it would be nice if it was encrypted.
[16:21]  * BluesKaj nods
[16:30] <lluis> hola
[16:35] <mjassim> hi
[17:01] <Smurphy> yo
[17:10] <ilhami> hi.
[19:50] <darin> clivejo: https://paste.kde.org/pket1gryh
[20:19] <user|51921> Hi. Where can I get the system requirements of  kubuntu?
[20:20] <soee> user|51921: probably https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:20] <soee> !requirements
[20:21] <user|51921> tnx
[20:53] <pasjrwoctx> anyone in here?
[21:00] <DarinMiller> I'm here. o/
[21:01] <pasjrwoctx> Do you know how to lock and shut off screen with hotkeys in Kubuntu 16.04?
[21:02] <valorie> !usb
[21:40] <DarinMiller> pasjrwoctx: Sorry, got distracted with another project. Still here?
[22:39] <kn0wledge_> how do i stop the lockscreen from comming up in kubuntu 16.04? i changed it in system settings and it doesnt seem to do anything. it still comes up every 10 min
[22:41] <DarinMiller> kn0wledge_: System Settings -> Power Management -> Energy Savings
[22:41] <DarinMiller> you changed the Suspend session option?
[22:44] <kn0wledge_> yes
[22:44] <kn0wledge_> i have everything diabled
[22:45] <DarinMiller> Laptop or deskotp?
[22:46] <kn0wledge_> desktop
[22:47] <DarinMiller> Laptop have On AC power tab and On battery tab...
[22:47] <DarinMiller> What version of KDE?
[22:52] <kn0wledge_> how do i find out it doesnt tell me in help->about.. whatever comes with 16.04 lts i didnt upgrade anything but the kernel so far
[22:55] <DarinMiller> Let try something in System Settings -> Power Management -> Energy Savings -> Suspend session set it to lock screen after one minute and see if the time changes...
[22:55] <DarinMiller> time=interval
[22:57] <DarinMiller> wait, theres another screen locking under  System Settings -> Desktop behavior -> Screen Locking.  Ensure to uncheck those boxes also...
[22:59] <kn0wledge_> lol it wont even suspend session when i set it to 1 min
[23:01] <kn0wledge_> DarinMiller: thanks a lot.. i thought it was going crazy for a minute im sure that should do the trick ill let you know if it doesnt ;]
[23:02] <DarinMiller> np :)
[23:03] <kn0wledge_> now i just need to find out how to get the acs and i915 patches to compile on 4.6.0 to get my vga passthrough working again.. im stuck :P
[23:04] <EagleScreen> Kubuntu 16.04 is good
[23:05] <EagleScreen> I feel strange that there aren't apps in favourites
[23:09] <DarinMiller> kn0wledge_: wish I knew more about patching and compiling.  I am a complete noob in those areas.
[23:09] <DarinMiller> EagleScreen: the empty favorites is a know issue, but you should be able to add your own, yes?
[23:31] <EagleScreen> DarinMiller: yes, ofcourse


[00:03]  * nedko is badly surprised that vcs-imports is not supporting mirroring of svn:// urls
[00:04] <mwhudson> nedko: what
[00:05] <nedko> mwhudson: i get "The URI scheme "svn" is not allowed. Only URIs with the following schemes may be used: bzr+ssh, ftp, http, https, sftp"
[00:05] <nedko> when trying to register svn branch for mirroring
[00:05] <wgrant> That doesn't sound like you're registering a vcs-import.
[00:06] <mwhudson> right, that sounds like +addbranch
[00:07] <nedko> hmm
[00:07] <mwhudson> nedko: you want https://code.edge.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new
[00:08] <nedko> yes it is addbranch
[00:08] <nedko> sorry
[00:08] <nedko> :S
[00:11] <nedko> mwhudson: should i ask here for vcs-import branches review or this should happen somehow automatically?
[00:39] <nedko> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/lash/trunk is the branch pending for review
[01:08] <evsthomas> hey
[01:08] <evsthomas> Can anyone help with the CoC signature process?
[01:09] <evsthomas> I'm getting an error msg when I try to submit the signed code
[01:09] <evsthomas> "The signed text does not match the Code of Conduct. Make sure that you signed the correct text..."
[01:32] <evsthomas> anybody here?
[01:38] <cody-somerville> Yes
[01:39] <cody-somerville> Can you pastebin what you're trying to input?
[01:39] <evsthomas> yeah. how do I pastebin?
[01:40] <evsthomas> sry. my first time
[01:42] <cody-somerville> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <evsthomas> k i did it
[01:43] <evsthomas> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/44061/
[01:43] <evsthomas> it's not showing everything that I copied though
[01:47] <cody-somerville> evsthomas, try starting from scratch
[01:47] <evsthomas> I'm not sure what you mean exactly?
[01:49] <cody-somerville> evsthomas, Get rid of what you have
[01:49] <evsthomas> yeah
[01:49] <evsthomas> and start from step 1?
[01:49] <cody-somerville> Take a brand new copy of the text you're trying to sign
[01:49] <cody-somerville> sign it
[01:49] <cody-somerville> and try getting launchpad to accept it again
[01:50] <evsthomas> do I copy the text straight out of the txt file?
[01:50] <evsthomas> or do i need to do the --clearsign thing?
[01:50] <cody-somerville> Download the file
[01:50] <cody-somerville> and use gpg to sign it
[01:50] <evsthomas> k, just did
[01:50] <cody-somerville> then copy and paste that output into the text box in launchpad
[01:51] <evsthomas> how do you use gpg to sign it? incase I'm doing that wrong
[01:51] <evsthomas> I used gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt
[01:52] <evsthomas> on the terminal
[01:52] <cody-somerville> no
[01:52] <cody-somerville> gpg --clearsign < UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt
[01:53] <evsthomas> ok. I copied and pasted the output and no luck
[01:54] <evsthomas> i;ll try version 1.0 real quick too
[01:55] <evsthomas> same error "The signed text does not match the Code of Conduct. Make sure that you signed the correct text (white space differences are acceptable)."
[01:55] <evsthomas> heres the pastbin of what i did
[01:56] <evsthomas> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/44070/
[02:04] <evsthomas> anybody else have any ideas?
[05:17] <vinu76jsr> wher to start
[05:20] <wgrant> It likely depends on what you want to do.
[05:24] <vinu76jsr> I just want to develop plugin for learning purposes, adn two options currently, Geertjan's book and this link
[05:24] <vinu76jsr> http://www.antonioshome.net/kitchen/netbeans
[05:25] <vinu76jsr> which is also suggested by him
[05:26] <vinu76jsr> got to go for breakfast :last five minute, 'll be returning plz reply!!!!
[05:39] <vinu76jsr> wgrant :  tell me, i am starting off
[05:59] <vinu76jsr> sorry wrong place, must be confusing intrepid interface
[05:59] <vinu76jsr> did not sleep whole nice sorry again
[05:59] <wgrant> Riiight.
[07:02] <adam> Hi. I'm in the process of hosting my code (bzr branch) at Launchpad, and encoundering some difficuties
[07:03] <adam> following the instructions at https://help.launchpad.net/CreatingAHostedBranch
[07:03] <adam> I get "[user] doesn't have a registered SSH key"
[07:03] <adam> how do I register an SSH key?
[07:05] <stdin> adam: this page should explain it https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[07:05] <adam> stdin: thanks.
[10:22] <nedko> vcs-imports branch https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/lash/trunk is still in pending review state, can someone please review it?
[10:54] <mwhudson> nedko: it's sunday
[10:56] <mwhudson> nedko: but, done
[10:56] <nedko> mwhudson: thank you
[10:56] <nedko> mwhudson: to my original question, should i ask here for review here or i should wait... until next work day for example?
[10:57] <mwhudson> nedko: waiting one working day usually works pretty well
[11:00] <nedko> why is manual review needed at all?
[11:06] <mwhudson> to stop someone typing 'http://svn.debian.org/' or 'http://svn.apache.org/'
[11:16] <nedko> mwhudson: you mean submiting things more than once? or you mean importing large repos?
[11:17] <mwhudson> nedko: the latter
[11:17] <mwhudson> nedko: it has a history of upsetting the admins of servers hosted said repos...
[11:18] <nedko> so it is not about launchapd resources but about resources of pulled repo server?
[11:20] <mwhudson> right
[11:21] <mwhudson> well, a bit of both
[11:21] <spiv> Yeah.  Checking out the root of a SVN repo that hosts many large projects with many branches and tags wastes a lot of time and bandwidth on both ends.
[11:23] <nedko> checking how much revisions has svn url, *once*, and making decision on this is trivial, there can be limit of max revisions to import without manual review, say 1000
[11:26] <spiv> Well, many correct URLs will have more than 1000 revisions.
[11:26] <spiv> It's hard to find a good automatic heuristic because there are some very large projects out there.
[11:27] <spiv> I'm sure we could do better.
[11:27] <nedko> so only large projects will need review, isnt this better than current situation?
[11:28] <mwhudson> at least we stay on top of imports much better now, with the new system
[11:28] <spiv> I think there was a suggestion at some point that URLs that end in "/trunk" should be assumed to be sane.
[11:29] <mwhudson> unfortunately it was a bit sillier than that
[11:29] <mwhudson> urls that *didn't* contain 'trunk' were assumed to be insane
[11:29] <spiv> Oh, right, as in rejected outright?
[11:30] <mwhudson> yeah
[11:30] <spiv> Yeah, that was a bit silly.
[11:30] <nedko> cant only "strange" urls require human review?
[11:30] <spiv> I shouldn't really be making you think about work on a Sunday night, but I think it's probably worth considering if we can auto-approve URLs that end in "/trunk".
[11:31] <spiv> i.e strictly more relaxed than the status quo.
[11:31] <mwhudson> oh look, a bug tracker!
[11:31] <spiv> mwhudson: this is a feature ;)
[11:31] <mwhudson> also, no, because the svn.apache.org admins hate us enough already
[11:32] <mwhudson> (really)
[11:32] <spiv> Oh?
[11:32] <nedko> you can "blacklist" some svn servers too
[11:32] <spiv> So many things I'm happily ignorant of :)
[11:32] <mwhudson> nedko: many things are possible, yes
[11:37] <wgrant> We could always just make everybody use bzr. That works
[11:43] <nedko> it is not possible though
[12:54] <gour> hi, we would like that all the generated bug-reports from the application go to the project's bug tracker at lP: if i understand correctly, all what is required is to send email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>address and include 'affects projectname' line in the body. is it true?
[13:03] <kiko-afk> gour, filing new bugs requires gpg-signed email, but I suggest you instead use the API to file a bug: https://help.launchpad.net/API
[13:14] <gour> kiko-afk: huh, that's very inconvenient forcing end-user to have gpg-signed email for automatic bug-report :-/
[13:15] <Hobbsee> gour: because you'd like me to forge your email address, and send a whole lot of stuff as you, that stays there forever?
[13:15] <Hobbsee> i see your point, though.
[13:16] <wgrant> There's always the apport method, of course.
[13:16] <kiko-afk> the apport method requires you complete using the web browser, though
[13:16] <kiko-afk> if it's to be totally automated the API is the way to go
[13:17] <kiko-afk> Hobbsee, it's annoying to require him to gpg-sign, yeah. maybe SPF would minimize the risk
[13:17] <wgrant> Doesn't the API require a web browser to authorize the oauth token?
[13:17] <kiko-afk> wgrant, only once
[13:17] <gour> web is not convenient for automatic bug-report, it should be made as simple as possible for end (non-savvy) suers
[13:17] <wgrant> Right.
[13:18]  * Hobbsee won't comment on non-savvy users, and bug reporting, as a general concept.
[13:18] <gour> do you know if savannah's tracker has email interface?
[13:19] <gour> Hobbsee: those 'bug reports' are unhandled exceptions, so end-user is just clicking 'send' to send traces to the tracker
[13:19] <Hobbsee> gour: ah, right.
[13:19] <Hobbsee> gour: that's probably OK then, as you probably won't require any more information form them.
[13:20] <gour> i already prepared my 1st python patch by changing email address  to LP and including 'affects projectname' in the body :-(
[13:21] <gour> Hobbsee: still, i'm not sure how to use API to use LP tracker instead of sending to devel-list
[13:21]  * gour is trying to push the project more to LP and eventually to bzr (from CVS)
[13:21] <Hobbsee> gour: i've not used the api, so i don't know :)
[13:21]  * Hobbsee tends to sign everything by default, so doesn't really have experience in what you're doing
[13:21] <gour> i see
[13:23] <gour> here http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnumed-devel/2008-09/msg00109.html is example of automatic bug report
[13:23] <gour> and here is the code which handles it http://rafb.net/p/rfMtLy78.html
[13:24] <wgrant> How is the Launchpad web UI sufficiently difficult to be a hindrance?
[13:24] <Hobbsee> wgrant: it keeps changing?
[13:25] <wgrant> Not that part of the UI,
[13:25] <wgrant> And I'm not sure of the relevance of that statement.
[13:26] <Hobbsee> I guess "ease of learning the launchpad way" would be a better statement.
[13:27] <spiv> Possibly a bug tracker doesn't necessarily make for a great automatic backtrace collector.  I guess it depends a bit on how the backtraces will be processed.
[13:28] <wgrant> apport makes a right mess of Ubuntu bugs.
[13:28] <wgrant> Dozens of duplicates.
[13:28] <wgrant> A separate crash tracker would likely be better.
[13:35] <gour> i'm thinking to add a new member to the team, e.g. crash-tracker and then forward all the bug-reports collected automatically to send to LP gpg-signed.
[13:40] <gour> is it possible to tag new bug report via email by using 'tag' ?
[13:40] <Hobbsee> gour: see https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface
[13:41] <gour> i'm looking at it, but wonder if i can use 'tag' while reporting new bug?
[13:41] <wgrant> You can.
[13:41] <wgrant> I don't think there are any that you can't.
[13:41]  * wgrant checks.
[13:42] <Hobbsee> i'd think so
[13:42] <gour> thanks
[13:42] <wgrant> Looks like it.
[13:43] <gour> cool, cool
[13:46] <gour> anyone familiar with mailman's features...i didn't admin ml for a long time. howto filter all the incoming email with certain subject and move it gpg-signed to LP?
[13:47] <LarstiQ> gour: I prefer using with_list
[13:47] <LarstiQ> gour: does require python foo
[13:47] <LarstiQ> withlist even
[13:49] <delfick> hello everyone. I just noticed that the page that shows all the changes for my project, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~delfick/vigedit/vigedit-additions/changes/37?start_revid=37 shows all the revisions (37), whereas the main page for the project only shows up to rev 35, https://code.launchpad.net/~delfick/vigedit/vigedit-additions. And was wondering why that is? or is it just a matter of waiting a particular amount of time after bzr push
[13:49] <gour> LarstiQ: that's mailman's API?
[13:50] <LarstiQ> gour: basically, see withlist --help on the machine running mailman
[13:50] <gour> LarstiQ: thanks
[13:50] <LarstiQ> gour: I'm the position of being the owner of the machine that I run my lists on, if that is not the case I guess you don't have that option available to you
[13:51] <gour> LarstiQ: hmm, the devel list is on savannah
[13:51] <LarstiQ> delfick: I believe so.
[13:51] <delfick> LarstiQ: k then...
[13:52] <LarstiQ> gour: then it requires more thought :)
[13:52] <gour> huh, so many complications due to the fact that LP wants gpg-signed email for bug-reports :-/
[13:52]  * LarstiQ goes outside
[13:53] <delfick> also, while I'm here, everytime I do a bzr push it tells me "Format <RepositoryFormatKnit1> for lp-140211244:///~delfick/vigedit/vigedit-additions/.bzr is deprecated - please use 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance" but when I do bzr upgrade it says "bzr: ERROR: The branch format Bazaar-NG meta directory, format 1 is already at the most recent format."
[13:54] <delfick> was wondering why ? :)
[14:20] <LarstiQ> delfick: which branch are you upgrading, the local or the remote one?
[15:38] <delfick> LarstiQ: given that question, I assume I'm doing the command in the wrong place, I'm not completely sure, but I believe the answer is local
[15:41] <kiko-afk> delfick, ignore that error message, it's an annoyance
[15:41] <kiko-afk> mwhudson, jml ^^
[15:41] <LarstiQ> delfick: try `bzr upgrade<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:41] <LarstiQ> or do what kiko says
[15:41] <LarstiQ> delfick: you don't _need_ to upgrade it per se
[15:41] <delfick> k then
[15:42] <delfick> though as kiko-afk says, it's an annoyance :p
[15:42] <LarstiQ> and in fact, if you want to collaborate with older clients, maybe you shouldn't
[15:42] <LarstiQ> delfick: yeah
[15:42] <delfick> what you mean by older clients?
[15:43] <LarstiQ> delfick: older bazaar clients aren't able to use the newest formats. Everything since 0.92 can use 0.92-packs, but 0.90 and older can't
[15:43] <delfick> ok then
[15:44] <delfick> will it effect the ability to merge with other branches that may not have upgraded yet?
[15:44] <LarstiQ> no
[15:44] <delfick> good :)
[15:54] <delfick> hmm, is it meant to take this long?
[15:56] <delfick> ahh, yay, it moved past "making backup of tree history" :)
[16:08] <delfick> yay, no more error message :)
[16:08] <delfick> thnx for the help
[16:08] <delfick> I'm off to bed now, cya
[19:28] <loow> hi
[19:28] <loow> how can I add another affected package to a bug ?
[19:29] <mdke> loow: "Also affects distribution"
[19:29] <loow> ookay
[19:29] <loow> ookay
[19:29] <loow> thanks
[19:30] <mdke> no problem
[19:33] <loow> may I confirm a bug myself ?
[19:34] <loow> (in ubuntu) ?
[19:35] <mdke> loow: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Confirming
[19:35] <mdke> loow: generally, you shouldn't confirm a bug that you yourself have reported
[19:36] <loow> okay, that's what I suspected.
[19:44] <patpiiii> hello
[19:45] <patpiiii> is anyone here able to reassign this project? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/44018
[19:45] <patpiiii> we really need this :)
[19:47] <beuno> patpiiii, no one around now, but tomorrow we'll have admins around
[19:47] <beuno> kiko-afk may pass by and look at his computer, if he does, he may be able to do so
[19:49] <patpiiii> thanks beuno, so i need to came here tomarrow?
[19:49] <patpiiii> kiko-afk: if you can do this then it would be great. Thanks in advance :)
[19:49] <beuno> patpiiii, tomorrow you'll have admins looking ar their computers  :)
[19:52] <patpiiii> ah, i get it
[19:52] <patpiiii> ;]
[19:52] <patpiiii> thanks, i will be going now. Thanks for help


 Anybody hear from that guy anymore?
[16:55] <wolfger> and of course, it errors out. I never had any problems with it before. :-p
[16:57] <jrwren> not since he moved away. and I can't remember to where he moved.
[16:57] <jrwren> What is his upgrade method?
[16:58] <wolfger> basically s/old-adjective/new-adjective in the lists file and then update and dist-upgrade
[16:59] <wolfger> I used to do it that way all the time, but then I also never skipped a version before
[16:59] <rick_h_> heh, do-release-upgrade ftw
[16:59] <jrwren> oh, the debian way.
[16:59] <jrwren> yeah... ubuntu made do-release-upgrade to protect you from these kinds of failures.
[16:59] <wolfger> :-p
[16:59] <wolfger> protection is for the weak!
[17:00] <jrwren> ha!
[17:00] <jrwren> or those seeking convenience.
[17:00] <wolfger> but I haven't buntued in years, so I guess I'm weak now
[17:00] <wolfger> I'm honestly surprised my laptop was on 15.10
[17:07] <cmaloney> I see nixternal on Twitter from time to time
[17:20] <wolfger> *sigh* dependency hell is hell. I think it's time to burn an install disk and start from scratch
[17:21] <jrwren> if you don't want to start from scratch, then don't start from scratch.
[17:21] <jrwren> digging yourself out of these kinds of distro holes are a great way to improve your mastery of the distro.
[17:21] <jrwren> you can always recover from anything.
[17:23] <wolfger> Meh. There's no reason not to start from scratch in this case, as I literally haven't used this install in years (other than to update the OS every once in a while)
[17:23] <wolfger> and I do want to get back into the Ubuntu world, but I don't want to jump into a hole and have to dig myself out of it right off the bat
[17:25] <jrwren> sweet! welcome back! ;]
[17:26] <wolfger> Thanks!
[19:07] <brousch__> Hm, looks like I might get to do Android dev at work now
[19:45] <rick_h_> brousch__: coolio
[19:46] <jrwren> brousch__: native, or do you get to use a toolkit?
[19:49] <brousch__> It will be native
[20:34] <cmaloney> brousch__: Awesome!


[01:51] <roy_muzz> hi, I have a 64 bit Ubuntu LTS 10.04 headless server that i just upgraded to 12.04. The upgrade did not seem super clean and there was a "failed to read on buffer copy for md5hash: Input/output error" when installing bash-completion. The server is running fine now but I am worried that it wont come back up after a reboot. Any commands that I can run to check whether the machine will come back up? How can I find out whether the install was clean?
[01:53] <sarnold> roy_muzz: perhaps checking debsums would be a good starting point?
[01:54] <roy_muzz> thanks sarnold, will do
[01:55] <roy_muzz> Everything looks ok after a "debsums -a". Is bash-completion an essential package?
[01:57] <lifeless> nope
[01:57] <sarnold> roy_muzz: no, you can live quite well without it, though I'm stunned how quickly I got accustomed to having it to complete program arguments...
[01:58] <roy_muzz> Well, my commands are still being completed. Perhaps they wont be after a reboot.
[01:58] <roy_muzz> I can gracefully apt-get update and upgrade.. so that is positive
[01:59] <sarnold> mmm, I've got a vague memory of a good dpkg command to run when you're not entirely certain that things ran to completion before; I _think_ that was dpkg --configure -a -- but _please_ verify that it does something sane before running it. :)
[02:00] <sarnold> .. a quick skim of dpkg(1) makes me think that dpkg --configure -a should be safe
[02:01] <roy_muzz> thanks, I ran it and there is no output.... looks fine
[03:51] <gabrieluk> hi,  how should i install libphp-phpmailer on ubuntu 10.04? ppa?
[04:08] <ScottK> gabrtv: It's in the official archive, no PPA needed.
[06:33] <koolhead17> jamespage: ping
[06:44] <jamespage> koolhead17, pong
[06:45] <koolhead17> jamespage: how is hacklathon coming along sir? :)
[06:45] <koolhead17> jamespage: CRITICAL nova [-] No module named quantum.manager i found soln for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1063689
[06:45] <koolhead17> it was my stupid configration
[06:46] <koolhead17> but i wanted to know is there a way to get floating IP working with quantum any doc/source u can point or have u tested it works with our cloud repo?
[06:46] <jamespage> koolhead17, OK thanks
[06:47] <jamespage> koolhead17, which quantum topology are you working with?
[06:48] <koolhead17> jamespage: let me get the guy in channel
[06:50] <koolhead17> vivek: can you answer jamespage question please
[06:50] <koolhead17> vivek: [12:17] <jamespage> koolhead17, which quantum topology are you working with?
[06:51] <vivek_> Hi
[06:51]  * koolhead17 is still learning/reading quantum and has not reached so far
[06:52] <koolhead17> vivek_: can you answer the question jamespage asked
[06:52] <koolhead17> vivek_: [12:17] <jamespage> koolhead17, which quantum topology are you working with?
[06:53] <vivek_> per tenant seperate network with floating ips but not using multi tire
[06:55] <vivek_> http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/use_cases_single_router.html
[07:13] <radish> good morning
[07:14] <radish> would http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current/precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img be a valid image for the use with openstack/kvm?
[07:15] <lifeless> should be yes
[07:24] <jamespage> smb: around?
[07:26] <smb> jamespage, just about... <warning>first coffee not yet finished</warning>
[07:26] <jamespage> vivek_, koolhead17: sorry - distracted by something else
[07:26] <jamespage> http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/demo_logical_network_config.html shows how todo this
[07:26] <jamespage> you can't allocate floating IP's using the nova cli ATM as far as I am aware
[07:26] <jamespage> and you must create the external network under a different tenant to the private ones
[07:28] <jamespage> vivek_, koolhead17: also look at this https://github.com/EmilienM/openstack-folsom-guide/blob/master/scripts/quantum-networking.sh
[07:28] <vivek_> yes i tried  external network for via service , admin and xyz tenant but it is not working
[07:29] <jamespage> vivek_, OK - so what is not working?
[07:29] <vivek_> here you can find some information https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/211395
[07:30] <jamespage> vivek_, OK - so you just exceeded my working knowledge of quantum :-)
[07:30] <jamespage> (pretty new for me as well)
[07:32] <jamespage> vivek_, 12.04 or 12.10?
[07:32] <vivek_> i am not able to ping instances after assigning them floating ips
[07:33] <vivek_> while quantum show the ip is attached to the instance
[07:33] <vivek_> 12.04
[07:35] <jamespage> vivek_, this is a all in one install?
[07:35] <vivek_> we have tried two senirio
[07:36] <vivek_> one all in one the server is having 4 lancards and next one server act as a controller and compute,  second network controller third compute
[07:38] <vivek_> out one lan card is connected with public switch and rest three is connected with private switch , one port of controller or network node is connected to public switch to create br-ex
[07:39] <vivek_> and i am creating br-int on eth1
[07:39] <vivek_> and eth0 is public facing for all servers
[07:41] <jamespage> smb, so bug 1068365
[07:41] <smb> jamespage, yes, tough luck
[07:41] <jamespage> smb, is it fixable in the kernel or do we have to hit the dkms package until it works?
[07:42] <jamespage> (its not currently kernel 3.5 compatible...)
[07:42] <smb> jamespage, It would require to add functionality. How SRUable do you think that is? ;)
[07:43] <jamespage> smb, I discussed with SpamapS - the consensus was that this is a must
[07:43] <smb> And it is something that even upstream openvswitch cannot be bothered with, so I really think making the dkms package is a better way to go
[07:45] <radish> I'm trying to upload an image to glance, however, regarding to the logs I'm not authorized, should I set the admin_token parameter in glance-api-paste.ini and glance-registry-paste.ini as suggested by https://answers.launchpad.net/glance/+question/203405 ?
[07:47] <jamespage> smb: the dkms package would be isolated so may be a better route
[07:47] <jamespage> agreed
[07:47] <jamespage> smb, I'm up to patch 8 from upstream trunk and I think I nearly have it working...
[07:48] <smb> jamespage, Exactly, and it is in a sense opt-in, so even if it breaks something or has issues it would not affect the normal instlal.
[07:49] <vivek_> jamespage _, i am using gre and vlan type tunnel
[07:49] <smb> jamespage, Yeah I guess the network layer around changed sufficiently to make it a pita
[08:49] <Anvar> Hi all, I have a quick question. Does postfix need SASL? (this in use for a local SMTP system to send out emails because I have no SMTP relay available)
[09:16] <cabbage> Anvar: No. :)
[09:41] <radish> hi, I have some problems regarding the setup of openstack folsom on ubuntu 12.04.. glance can't authenticate with keystone, see the following pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299554/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1299600/
[09:46] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want to start samba as service when start on ubuntu sever ... help me please
[09:46] <kuuhmuhmu> hey i want to start samba as service when start on ubuntu sever ... help me please
[09:46] <SpamapS> kuuhmuhmu: sudo apt-get install samba
[09:49] <kuuhmuhmu> yes i doned
[09:49] <kuuhmuhmu> but it not start when start : i install ubuntu gui on it
[09:49] <kuuhmuhmu> it must to start : sudo start samba everytime
[09:52] <kuuhmuhmu> pleases
[10:14] <lamont> ScottK: ^^
[10:15] <ScottK> lamont: Yeah.  Fix just landed in precise/quantal-proposed for testing.
[10:15] <lamont> cool
[10:15] <ScottK> The bot never explains why it's mentioning a bug.
[10:23] <Anvar> kuuhmuhmu, do you get an error when starting samba manual?
[10:48] <Aison> hello
[10:48] <Aison> is it possible to run a  HP 1/8 G2 Tape Autoloader under ubuntu server?
[11:00] <fij0_> hello
[11:00] <fij0_> anyone know any tool to get parallel ssh in ubuntu ?
[11:02] <koolhead17> fij0_: ?
[11:02] <fij0_> i have multiples serves, i want to execute the same command in parallel in those multiples servers
[11:03] <koolhead17> fij0_: i read something called func and salt
[11:04] <koolhead17> i have no idea there being any command i might b wrong
[11:11] <Anvar> Aison, yes is possible, see HP website for more info & drivers
[11:12] <Aison> Anvar, I just found some drivers before, but no idea how to install them. Well, I will try it again :)
[11:12] <Anvar> fij0_, try webmin, you can cluster your servers and run ssh scripts to your cluster then
[11:12] <Anvar> Aison, normally you have to build & install them. The readme included normaly provides the installation inscrutions
[11:13] <Aison> so you think I should download the sources instead of the debian+ubuntu packages?
[11:13] <Aison> hmm, maybe that's better
[11:13] <Anvar> webmin provides a handy webbased GUI
[11:14] <Anvar> #marashino
[12:44] <koolhead17> zul: around
[12:46] <zul> koolhead17: kind of
[12:47] <koolhead17> zul: ok. will poke you later when your completely here :)
[12:55] <koolhead17> zul: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/install_ubuntu.html  the doc uses testing repo you think it should be moved to cloud repo now?
[12:56] <zul> koolhead17: yes
[12:57] <koolhead17> ok. so shall i assign the bug and change the repo path?
[12:57] <zul> koolhead17: yep
[12:57] <koolhead17> k
[13:02] <Aison> damn, a package would like to install sun-java6-jre, but of course this package is not available in precise
[13:03] <Aison> java is installed
[13:03] <Aison> but openjdk-6-jre
[13:03] <Aison> what to do now?
[13:09] <koolhead17> Aison: i have a secret soln  for that but i need beer in return :P
[13:09] <Aison> lol :P
[13:10] <Aison> bad guy ^^
[13:11] <koolhead17> Aison: :D that i am :D
[13:11] <koolhead17> Aison: http://www.printandweb.ca/2012/04/manually-install-oracle-jdk-6-for.html
[13:11] <koolhead17> see if it helps man :)
[13:16] <Aison> koolhead17, but this does not generate a package so that in my ubuntu server there is a package sun-java6-jre
[13:16] <Aison> some stupid adaptec driver requires this
[13:17] <koolhead17> Aison: your stupid driver needs java-6 env
[13:17] <koolhead17> notthing else i suppose
[13:17] <koolhead17> to run
[13:18] <Aison> adaptec-storage-manager-common : Depends: sun-java6-jre but it is not installable
[13:19] <koolhead17> Aison: i have no idea about the sf but u cannot install java from ubuntu repo anymore
[13:20] <TLoT> !java | koolhead17
[13:20] <TLoT> Aison: if you've got packages dependent on those older packages, you'll run into a few issues there.
[13:21] <TLoT> Aison: koolhead is right, Java is not installable from the repos anymore.
[13:21] <TLoT> (sorry koolhead17, misping)
[13:22] <koolhead17> TLoT: y0
[13:22] <TLoT> what're they trying to install, koolhead17?
[13:23] <TLoT> looks/sounds like some GUI utility for a drive or somethihng
[13:24] <koolhead17> TLoT: i use simple bash script
[13:24] <TLoT> urgh, they're installing drivers
[13:24] <Aison> it is some adaptec stuff
[13:25] <TLoT> Aison: did Adaptec provide a tarball rather than a debian package for it?
[13:25] <TLoT> you may end up building and installing from source
[13:25] <Aison> I cannot install the debian package either
[13:25] <Aison> so I tried this: http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/DebianPackages
[13:25] <TLoT> and nobody listens.  i'll go back to stabbing php5 for a while
[13:27] <TLoT> Aison: won't help you, those "repos" are old.
[13:27] <TLoT> Aison: you will need to install java manually, and then likely build from source, i'll bet
[13:27] <TLoT> rather than just finding a "package" that'll fix it
[13:28] <TLoT> Aison: what hardware are you installing drivers for?
[13:28] <Aison> well, the drivers itself from the kernel are working, but I also need to newest manager software
[13:29] <Aison> it is for this card: http://www.adaptec.com/de-de/products/controllers/hardware/sas/performance/sas-51245/
[13:29] <Aison> Adaptec RAID 51245
[13:29] <TLoT> if you need the manager, build it from source.
[13:29] <TLoT> as i said, thsoe packages rely on nonexistent packages
[13:29] <TLoT> so you're pretty much left with just building from source
[13:29] <Aison> and in a next step I would like to setup the LTO5 drive
[13:31] <TLoT> Aison: 32bit or 64bit?
[13:33] <Aison> 64bit
[13:36] <Aison> just found a howto http://samiux.blogspot.ch/2010/07/howto-adaptec-storage-manager-on-ubuntu.html
[13:36] <Aison> maybe that works
[13:36] <TLoT> i dont trust random how-tos :p
[13:37] <TLoT> http://download.adaptec.com/raid/storage_manager/asm_linux_x64_v7_31_18856.tgz  <-- the tarball
[13:38] <Aison> thx
[13:44] <zul> hallyn: ping
[13:44] <hallyn> yo
[13:45] <zul> hallyn: so im the middle of testing an lxc patch and moving the packaging to 0.10.2 is that kosher with you?
[13:45] <zul> for libvirt
[13:45] <hallyn> zul: +1
[13:45] <hallyn> for r, or would you sru to q?
[13:45] <zul> for r
[13:46] <zul> its a bit biggish for q and not accepted by upstream yet
[13:46] <hallyn> cool.  do you have any interest in looking at my proposed qemu replacement pkgs for r? :)
[13:47] <hallyn> yeah go nuts.  i've been very happy with how stable libvirt has been in q, so i fear regressions, but hey maybe it'll stay that way for good now
[13:47] <zul> hallyn: i do have interest
[13:47] <hallyn> actually now that the bzr trees seem to be fixed for libvirt, maybe daily builds can be done automatically and we can do daily upstream testing to sniff out bugs
[13:48] <hallyn> zul:
[13:48] <hallyn> feh
[13:48] <hallyn> my sandbox for qemu is ppa:serge-hallyn/crossc
[13:48] <zul> hallyn: my only concern with daily upstream testing is the amount of patches we are carrying in q
[13:48] <hallyn> taht reminds me i need to go subscribe slangasek to the qemu blueprint, as i'm hoping to merge the trees (not likely, but i have hope)
[13:49] <hallyn> yeah, that was painful before too
[13:55] <hallyn> stgraber: woudl you want to attend the servercloud-r-libvirt blueprint to talk about implementing a lxc2 driver based on your api?  or is it too early for that?  or should we just do it (when ready) without chatting?
[14:00] <Aison> TLoT, finally it is working now
[14:00] <Aison> well, next step I need some tape drive software :P
[14:01] <TLoT> Aison: i assume you did go and build from source :P
[14:01] <vizzoid> is it possible to use apparmor within a chrooted enviroment such as an ulteo subsystem?
[14:02] <Aison> TLoT, well, it is just some piece of java software
[14:04] <TLoT> Aison: true, but the "packages" are broken :P  so there.
[14:04] <TLoT> Aison: and since those packages arent released *by* adaptec, i would not trust them ever in a million years
[14:05] <TLoT> put them in the same category of PPA, and then put a higher security threat on there.
[14:05] <TLoT> !ppa | Aison, just for the record since I mentioned PPAs
[14:06] <Aison> thx
[14:10] <jgcampbell300> so i am thinking of hiring some help on a project I have in mind and im not sure who i can consult with... i am thinking it will involve web data and some form of out put after the data has been anelized
[14:10] <jgcampbell300> any ideas
[14:31] <stgraber> hallyn: hmm, I think it's best to play with it on the side for this cycle and start talking with the libvirt-lxc author rather than discuss it at UDS and give the impression that we want to take over that driver entirely
[14:35] <hallyn> stgraber: well they love their own driver, i don't think we have to worry about that :)  but yeah, basically agreed :)
[15:09] <hallyn> zul: Daviey: so, should we have canceled this weeks meeting?
[15:09] <hallyn> or will the copenhagen crew be there?
[15:09] <zul> hallyn:  no idea
[15:11] <hallyn> wasting 30 mins of time with the two of us going over an agenda for no reason doesn't seem productive
[15:15] <hallyn> zul: bug 1069534 , do you know how the 'socket=' ends up in a graphics tag in libvirt xml?
[15:16] <hallyn> if i'm being a moron and it's a well known way to do it, pls feel free to make fun of me in the bug
[15:17] <zul> hallyn: not off by hand...probably when they use vnc in their xml
[15:17] <hallyn> zul: i reproduced her exact virt-install command, got the usual tag.
[15:18] <hallyn> oh, maybe there's some libvirtd.conf option
[15:18] <hallyn> no obvious one, oh well.
[15:25] <jamespage> hallyn, around?
[15:26] <hallyn> jamespage: yup, what's up?
[15:26] <jamespage> hallyn, so - good spot on the ovs bridging issue
[15:27] <hallyn> btw, virt-install on ssd with apt-cacher from same ssd, is freaking fast :)
[15:27] <jamespage> hallyn, sure is!
[15:27] <hallyn> jamespage: i feel bad that you went and built the pkg :)  thanks for doing that.  do you have it in a ppa?  i coud pull it into my charm as a test if you like
[15:27] <jamespage> hallyn, I've cherry picked what I think is enough patches from upstream trunk to re-enable the dkms package
[15:28] <jamespage> it will appear in ppa:james-page/junk ~ 5 hours unless I can find someone to rescore
[15:28] <jamespage> hallyn: I've tested it using your charms - although I did have issues when the bridge ports where setup using hostnames rather than IP's
[15:28]  * hallyn makes puppy eyes toward stgraber
[15:28] <hallyn> jamespage: yeah hostnames never worked for me
[15:29] <jamespage> it appears functional - however I've not really been able to validate performance that well
[15:29] <jamespage> it looks the same-ish as precise
[15:29] <jamespage> but not as good as the head of upstream trunk
[15:29] <hallyn> jamespage: i never much worried about perf, didn't think gre could be al lthat fast :)
[15:29] <jamespage> but that could be where my instances where running
[15:29] <hallyn> jamespage: should we be engaging lkml about getting gre tunnels working there?
[15:29] <jamespage> hallyn, I get ~700MBps with 1.4 and ~1GBps on 1.8
[15:29] <jamespage> over the bridge
[15:29] <jamespage> tunnel sorry
[15:30] <hallyn> impressive
[15:30] <jamespage> we should definately push and upstream snapshot into raring IMHO
[15:30] <stgraber> jamespage, hallyn: both are building now
[15:30] <jamespage> stgraber, thanks!
[15:30] <hallyn> stgraber: thanks! :)
[15:31] <jamespage> hallyn, I spoke with SpamapS about the SRU as well - its pretty isolated into the dkms package
[15:31] <jamespage> so we are not likely to regress other bits of openvswitch
[15:31] <jamespage> so should be OK
[15:32] <hallyn> do we have a testsuite? :)
[15:33] <hallyn> koolhead17: say...  why 17?
[15:33] <koolhead17> hallyn, i need to change that nick sir, i got to www when i was 17 ::P
[15:34] <hallyn> koolhead17: ah, when i was 17 there was no www yet :)
[15:34] <hallyn> we gophered, and we LIKED IT
[15:34] <hallyn> koolhead17: seeing you at uds next week?
[15:34] <koolhead17> hallyn, yes sir. looking forward for another volleyball match :)
[15:35] <hallyn> \o/
[15:35] <hallyn> that's me at the net :)
[15:35] <hallyn> you know, even though i can barely reach the top
[15:35] <koolhead17> hallyn, would like to sit and understand LXC as well
[15:35] <koolhead17> hallyn, :P
[15:35] <jcastro_> SpamapS: is the mysql session for UDS sorted?
[15:35] <jcastro_> SpamapS: I see it on thursday morning
[15:36] <koolhead17> hola jcastro_ :)
[15:37] <jamespage> hallyn, I'd forgotten about gopher
[15:37]  * jamespage remembers fondly
[15:37] <hallyn> koolhead17: i didn't realize you had questions!  by all means we can sit and chat about it :)
[15:38] <koolhead17> hallyn, cool. Btw jamespage hallyn i started computer with playing LOGO :P
[15:38] <jamespage> hallyn, we don't have a test suite that exercises the tunnelling
[15:38]  * jamespage adds that to the list
[15:38] <koolhead17> and we were not allowed to wear shoes inside computer lab
[15:39] <koolhead17> Linus was working on kernel somewhere that time :P
[15:40] <jamespage> koolhead17, I was installing linux from a 6 iso set that I got once every 3 months and building my own kernel...
[15:40]  * jamespage remembers slackware
[15:41] <koolhead17> jamespage, i came very late to Linux i think with redhat9
[15:41] <koolhead17> i guess i installed lots of distro in one week to get audio working
[15:42] <koolhead17> got introduced to Debian and then Ubuntu :)
[15:43] <koolhead17> arosales, hey there
[15:43] <zul> james: iso?! you young'un
[15:44] <arosales> koolhead17: hello
[15:44] <koolhead17> zul, you used floppy? :)
[15:47] <jamespage> zul: I only had to use minix off floppys
[15:47] <zul> jamespage: hah
[15:49] <hallyn> i did try to boot my sun 3/160 server off of 3 huge mag tapes, didn't work
[15:50] <jamespage> zul, hallyn: you guys want todo the irc meeting today? consensus here is to skip this week as not huge amounts to discuss
[15:50] <zul> jamespage:  skip it
[15:51] <hallyn> jamespage: agreed
[15:51] <koolhead17> SpamapS, jcastro_  i need my juju t-shirt this time
[15:52] <jamespage> hallyn, zul: okay!
[15:52] <koolhead17> :P
[15:52] <SpamapS> jcastro_: uh, Thursday morning aint gonna work ;)
[15:52] <SpamapS> jcastro_: I'll subscribe as essential, that should zap it back to M or Tu
[15:53] <SpamapS> jcastro_: actually I'm already marked as essential.. so.. hrm
[15:54] <jcastro_> ok, want me to move it?
[15:54] <jcastro_> SpamapS: this is why I check. :)
[15:54] <SpamapS> jcastro_: yeah, if I have too many essential ones, let me know and I'll go through them and remove a few
[15:55] <jcastro_> I am making it so the cloud and juju community ones don't conflict
[15:55] <jcastro_> SpamapS: tuesday 1500
[15:56] <SpamapS> jcastro_: cool that should be good
[15:59] <zul> SpamapS: galera support?
[16:01] <SpamapS> zul: YES :)
[16:01] <zul> SpamapS:  ques que ce?
[16:02] <SpamapS> zul: http://www.codership.com/wiki/doku.php?id=faq
[16:03] <zul> SpamapS: bien sur
[16:04] <SpamapS> zul: de nada
[16:04] <zul> SpamapS: are people actually using that?
[16:25] <nishttal2> hi all.. i am running ubuntu server 12.04.. how can i tell it to use the onboard VGA for output and not the external nvidia gtx also installed
[16:26] <RoyK> nishttal2: usually a BIOS setting - use onboard first or something
[16:26] <RoyK> nishttal2: also, if you don't need that nvidia card, well, unplug it ;)
[16:27] <nishttal2> RoyK: bios is fine and uses the onboard vga.. its after the grub menu when ubuntu loads up that i get the blank screen
[16:27] <nishttal2> RoyK: i need the nvidia card just not for display (for computation)
[16:27] <RoyK> oh, opencl/cuda?
[16:27] <nishttal2> RoyK: yeah
[16:27] <nishttal2> :)
[16:28] <RoyK> I guess the easiest would be to use it for the console as well as computing - it shouldn't make much difference if the card is used to display ASCII
[16:28] <RoyK> but then - using the onboard card for the console would probably be best
[16:29] <nishttal2> RoyK: problem with that is that the KVM in the server room on supports VGA and the GTXs do not have VGA out.. the convertors dont work either
[16:29] <RoyK> ubuntu uses the framebuffer drivers for the console, so I guess that's where you'll have to dig
[16:30] <RoyK> nishttal2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#How_to_disable_the_framebuffer
[16:30] <RoyK> disabling the framebuffer should work
[16:30] <RoyK> you'll end up with a good old terminal, though, but hopefully you won't need it too often
[16:31] <koolhead17> Daviey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive can i modify it with adding command 4 adding cloud keyring?
[16:31] <nishttal2> RoyK: yeah i dont anticipate frequent visits to the server room
[16:32] <RoyK> nishttal2: try to disable the framebuffer first
[16:32] <RoyK> if it doesn't help, well, perhaps we'll find another way...
[16:32] <nishttal2> ok trying now
[16:35] <nishttal2> RoyK: Highlight, again with the use of the arrow keys, the line that say "kernel" and press "e" to edit that line ...
[16:35] <nishttal2> RoyK: I dont see a line that says kernel
[16:36] <RoyK> you should be at the end of the line after pressing e
[16:36] <RoyK> so just type away
[16:36] <RoyK> perhaps add a space first
[16:37] <nishttal2> same issue
[16:38] <nishttal2> let me try the CMOS/BIOS way to disable framebuffer
[16:39] <RoyK> I somewhat doubt it'll help if the linux kernel detects a new graphics card and uses that instead of the one onboar
[16:39] <RoyK> I somewhat doubt it'll help if the linux kernel detects a new graphics card and uses that instead of the one onboard
[16:39] <nishttal2> hmm
[16:39] <nishttal2> worth a try?
[16:39] <RoyK> dutr
[16:40] <RoyK> erm
[16:40] <RoyK> sure
[16:40] <RoyK> can't hurt to try
[16:40] <sarnold> oof. one hopes the kernel would use whichever video card was selected in the bios as the one to power up..
[16:40] <patdk-wk> hmm, I haven't had any issues
[16:40] <RoyK> linux doesn't always care much about BIOS settings
[16:40] <patdk-wk> I boot my laptop randomly with 1 or 2 video cards, it always gets it right
[16:41] <RoyK> ok
[16:41] <RoyK> perhaps a driver issue?
[16:41] <nishttal2> RoyK, i cant even find anything close to frame buffer in the bios.. so much for that try!
[16:42] <patdk-wk> first off, what motherboard is this?
[16:42] <sarnold> nishttal2: does the bios give you the option of which card to use? at least mine does...
[16:43] <RoyK> sarnold: looks like it, since it works until grub is finished...
[16:43] <nishttal2> sarnold: yeah it does and its set to use Onboard-VGA.. and it uses that to boot up till grub.. after grub i guess ubuntu takes over and uses the nvidia gtx
[16:44] <RoyK> nishttal2: that's the linux kernel, not "ubuntu", but still I agree
[16:44] <nishttal2> sarnold: RoyK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Wqf31DFMA
[16:45] <hallyn> SpamapS: is 'static-network-up' in lucid?
[16:45] <hallyn> wondering about bug 850309
[16:46] <sarnold> nishttal2: woo :) video. what an age to be alive.
[16:46] <sarnold> nishttal2: good luck; I've gotta run. :/
[16:46] <RoyK> hallyn: I have a few VMs on Lucid with bridged networking...
[16:47] <nishttal2> sarnold: yeah :)
[16:47] <RoyK> nishttal2: I'd say file a bug
[16:48] <hallyn> RoyK: i'm just wondernig whether the 'static-network-up' event was sru'd to lucid.  it came in around oneiric time.
[16:49] <nishttal2> RoyK: damn!
[16:49] <RoyK> nishttal2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[16:50] <RoyK> might be relevant
[16:50] <RoyK> but hardly so
[16:50] <SpamapS> hallyn: no
[16:50] <SpamapS> hallyn: and you shouldn't be using that event
[16:50] <SpamapS> hallyn: runlevel [2345] for almost everything
[16:51] <hallyn> SpamapS: i'm in the middle of typing exactly taht into the bug
[16:51] <nishttal2> RoyK: wait.. changing the grub setting worked..
[16:52] <hallyn> SpamapS: but the point remains that we'd need that event for it to work
[16:52] <nishttal2> RoyK: i added it to the last line.. and it didnt work.. i moved it to the last but one line and it worked
[16:52] <nishttal2> RoyK: thanks a lot man!!
[16:52] <hallyn> SpamapS: but ok, if it wont' be fixed in upstart, then i guess it's wontfix in libvirt, and i'll simply offer a script they can add to libvirt-bin.upstart to work around it
[16:52] <RoyK> nishttal2: ;)
[16:53] <RoyK> nishttal2: you'll need to make that permanent
[16:53] <RoyK> nishttal2: what you set on boot only works for that session (until reboot)
[16:53] <nishttal2> RoyK: yeah.. do you know what file it is in 12.04
[16:53] <SpamapS> hallyn: for lucid, people have to edit /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf to delay runlevel 2 until after the appropriate network is up
[16:53] <nishttal2> i dont see a menu.lst
[16:53] <RoyK> that's grub1
[16:53] <RoyK> grub2 works differently
[16:54] <RoyK> /etc/default/grub
[16:54] <RoyK> probably
[16:54] <hallyn> SpamapS: (or libvirt-bin.conf)
[16:54] <RoyK> then update-grub (iirc)
[16:54] <patdk-wk> grub2 initializes video, and passes it to linux
[16:55] <patdk-wk> grub1 uses text console from bios
[16:55] <RoyK> patdk-wk: thanks
[16:55] <hallyn> SpamapS: but ok, so it's wontfix for upstart for lucid, thanks
[16:56] <patdk-wk> GRUB_TERMINAL=console, disables grub video, then also add nomodeset if needed to the kernel
[16:56] <patdk-wk> what I have to do on my very old system, I use for a firewall at home
[16:56] <nishttal2> patdk-wk: is this for my issue?
[16:57]  * RoyK guesses so
[16:57] <patdk-wk> it's an attempt :)
[16:57] <SpamapS> hallyn: yes indeed... it wouldn't be kosher to change the default boot sequence for lucid :-/
[16:57] <RoyK> nishttal2: or just add that option to the grub config
[16:58] <nishttal2> RoyK: i am confused.. where in grub config
[16:58] <hallyn> SpamapS: wuss!  :)
[16:58] <RoyK> 18:52 < nishttal2> RoyK: i added it to the last line.. and it didnt work.. i moved it to the last but one line and it worked
[16:58] <RoyK> use that in /etc/default/grub
[16:58]  * SpamapS disappears
[16:58] <RoyK> and run update-grub
[16:58] <RoyK> patdk-wk's version will probably do just as well
[16:59] <RoyK> perhaps less hassle
[16:59] <nishttal2> RoyK: this is what my /etc/default/grub looks like http://fpaste.org/2icX/
[17:00] <RoyK> comment out GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[17:00] <RoyK> for a start
[17:00] <nishttal2> its already commented.. so uncomment it
[17:01] <RoyK> yes
[17:01] <nishttal2> ok and then update_grub
[17:01] <RoyK> update-grub, yes
[17:01] <nishttal2> ok rebooting now.... fingers crossed
[17:02] <nishttal2> IT WORKED!!!!! :)
[17:02] <RoyK> :)
[17:03] <nishttal2> RoyK: patdk-wk thank you both.
[17:03] <RoyK> btw, what are you doing with those GPUs?
[17:03] <RoyK> AFAICS four of them?
[17:04]  * RoyK likes SuperMicro btw
[17:04] <nishttal2> I have 2 GTX 570s, 2 GTX 680s and a bunch of 560s (different machines ofcourse)..
[17:04] <nishttal2> run realtime analytics on stock market data
[17:05] <nishttal2> damn.. it seems its stuck at UHCI Host Controller...
[17:05] <nishttal2> SSH is up
[17:06] <nishttal2> RoyK: this is SuperMicro
[17:07] <RoyK> had a rather bad issue at my last job, power were to be shut down for a day or so, so a diesel-based generator was connected to allow us to have the servers running, so poweroff, wait, connect new generators, open fuse, and some 2kV was sent to the UPSes, which paniced and went into pass-through, frying a large number of PSUs and some disks - except all the supermicros, which were happily running
[17:07] <RoyK> nishttal2: yeah, I saw that from the video ;)
[17:08] <nishttal2> RoyK: thats comforting to here :)
[17:08] <nishttal2> hear*
[17:09] <nishttal2> RoyK: any ideas on why its stuck .. i dont have the login prompt
[17:09] <RoyK> no idea
[17:09] <RoyK> try to switch console
[17:09] <RoyK> alt+f2 or alt+(left|right(
[17:10] <RoyK> alt+f2 or alt+(left|right)
[17:10] <nishttal2> tried ctrl alt f1 thru 11
[17:10] <RoyK> sorry, no idea
[17:10] <RoyK> does caps lock work?
[17:10] <RoyK> if it doesn't, perhaps something is fubar with the usb connection
[17:11] <nishttal2> i tried num lock and that worked
[17:11] <nishttal2> rebooted so cant check if caps lock was fine
[17:11] <RoyK> alt+left or right should work
[17:11] <hallyn> jamespage: all right, deploying my test with your ppa.  <crossing fingers>
[17:11] <nishttal2> RoyK: i didnt
[17:11] <nishttal2> it*
[17:11] <RoyK> no idea, sorry
[17:12] <RoyK> how did you reboot? ctrl+alt+del?
[17:12] <nishttal2> RoyK: there must be a way to directly modify the grub entry to say "nomodeset" somwhere.. bcoz that worked
[17:12] <nishttal2> yes
[17:12] <RoyK> then keyboard works
[17:12] <RoyK> but console is fscked up somehow
[17:12] <patdk-wk> just add nomodeset on the end of the kernel line
[17:13] <RoyK> mhm
[17:13] <patdk-wk> add it to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX option in /etc/default/grub
[17:13] <patdk-wk> and grub will always add it
[17:14] <nishttal2> patdk-wk: ok cool.. so change line # 12 in http://fpaste.org/2icX/ to look like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=normal nomodeset" ?
[17:14] <patdk-wk> I guess
[17:14] <patdk-wk> but line 12 is the one to edit
[17:15] <patdk-wk> oh? 20 is still commented out?
[17:15] <nishttal2> patdk-wk: no
[17:15] <nishttal2> patdk-wk: that was the old post
[17:15] <patdk-wk> 12 goes on all kernels
[17:15] <patdk-wk> 11 only goes to non-recovery ones
[17:15] <nishttal2> patdk-wk: ok.. and update-grub after that?
[17:15] <patdk-wk> yep
[17:16] <nishttal2> patdk-wk: rebooting
[17:17] <nishttal2> patdk-wk: yup that did it.. thanks again
[17:21] <RoyK> nishttal2: would GPUs really give realtime analysis of stock market that gain compared to CPUs?
[17:22] <nishttal2> RoyK: oh man.. dont even get me starting
[17:22] <nishttal2> started*
[17:23] <RoyK> just curious ;)
[17:23] <nishttal2> 1 GPU is performing 50 times better than a quad core xeons that i've used in the past
[17:23] <RoyK> GPUs are fast for very parallel computation
[17:23] <nishttal2> yeah.. and each stock ticker is independent (well depends on your analytic) so you can do them all in parallel
[17:24] <RoyK> given the amount of data is low, which I think is the case for your type of data
[17:24] <RoyK> ic
[17:24] <nishttal2> its the frequency of data
[17:24] <nishttal2> 25K ticks/sec
[17:24] <RoyK> so all you need is a dispatcher that's parallelized to the amount of CPU cores and then dispatch the lot to the GPU?
[17:25] <nishttal2> brb
[17:25] <RoyK> perhaps the dispatcher won't need much parallelising, though, since its work is minor...
[17:41] <nishttal2> RoyK: back
[17:42] <nishttal2> RoyK: so the architecture would depend on your application ofcourse.. but yeah thats the general idea
[17:42] <hallyn> jamespage: drat, by default openvswitch.ko (not openvswitch_mod.ko) gets loaded
[17:44] <hallyn> hm, maybe that's the problem, maybe not.  trying again
[17:57] <nishttal2> is it safe to install libglut on ubuntu server 12.04
[18:57] <hallyn> jamespage: \o/ new pkg works for m.e  HOWEVER, (we should ask this on #ubuntu-kernel) can we have that pkg disable the openvswitch.ko from linux-image?
[19:16] <hallyn> jamespage: d'oh, hold on, nm, i see the problem.   <thwap>  i'm an idiot
[19:19] <zul> hallyn: doh http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1300923/
[19:21] <Phibs> my config for a custom apt repo is thus: http://pastie.org/private/60bjfrzhrodww3ej3oekq, it finds the package metadata but 404s trying to install it. Any hints?
[19:22] <hallyn> zul: why don't you have /var/run/dbus/system-bus-socket?  i have it here...
[19:22] <zul> hallyn: im nto sure
[19:23] <zul> hallyn: restarted dbus anyways and it works
[19:25] <hallyn> zul: hm.
[19:26] <zul> hallyn: im running raring here so *shrug*
[19:45] <Case_> I am hoping someone can help me.  I have an Ubuntu Server with Apache.  I have multiple sites on this server and one of them the GET time for just the domain is like 30 seconds.  The others are perfectly fine.  They have the same naming server and the same domain registerar.  Does anyone have any clue what might cause this?
[19:46] <sarnold> Case_: is that virtual host configured to log hostnames in its logfiles?
[19:46] <sarnold> (I don't know if that is possible, but DNS lookups are often the cause of 30-second-ish delays in software...)
[19:47] <Case_> I am not sure, not putty is being well slow to log into it.  Maybe the server is just going :/
[19:47] <sarnold> heh, perhaps your sshd is configured to log hostnames too? :)
[19:48] <Case_> I half wonder if someone is just pinging it to death
[21:05] <Horv> Heya! Need som help with troublshooting. Me and a friend (bark) are trying to set up a MAAS and got so far as to the pxe-boot-part. During the pxe-boot we get "connection 1:0 conn error detected (1020)" and googling have led us nowhere.
[21:05] <Horv> We've tried pxe-boot with 4 different computer setups with the same result.
[21:07] <Horv> Any idea where to troubleshoot? Or what could be causing the error?
[21:50] <crono_logical> hi guys, anyone around able to help in this channel? just hosed a ubuntu VM doing apt-get upgrade, it no longer boots with error boot disk not found
[21:50] <crono_logical> filesystem looks ok and intact, it mounts cleanly when I mount the virtual disk in a different VM
[21:53] <jamespage> hallyn, the dkms module should override the kernel module
[22:00] <subman> I have a storage machine at <IP_ADDRESS> and a machine that I want to backup on <IP_ADDRESS>.  Just looking for clarification on how to use rsync.  On the machine to be backed up, <IP_ADDRESS>, do I use the command:  rsync -azvv -e ssh user@<IP_ADDRESS>:/destination_folder /source_folder?
[22:08] <hallyn> jamespage: it didn't.  but i shouldn't have installed the linux-image-extras or wahtever package
[22:10] <crono_logical> subman: it should be source then destination, so other way round. if you're not sure, there's the -n switch to see what it would do without changing any data
[22:10] <subman> crono_logical, thanks.
[22:11] <crono_logical> subman: I'd also drop the '-e ssh' since I think it defaults to ssh for remote stuff anyway, and also drop -z if you're on local LAN
[22:11] <crono_logical> the compression would probably make the CPU the bottleneck rather than your network
[22:11] <subman> crono_logical, yes, I've noticed that.
[22:17] <Aison> I simply don't know how to use a LTO-5 Tape drive with ubuntu server :(
[22:17] <Aison> it's a HP Drive connected to an adaptec raid controller
[22:18] <xnox> Aison: I find bacula documentation and community a good source of help with all things tape
[22:19] <Aison> xnox, my problem is, that I don't even have got some /dev/st devices
[22:20] <Aison> the harddisk drives attached to the same raid controller are working
[22:21] <genii-around> Aison: If the tape drive is last device make sure it doesn't have a conflicting SCSI id number, and that it is terminated
[22:22] <Aison> genii-around, it is SAS
[22:22] <genii-around> Aison: Ah, OK
[22:22] <Aison> with the adaptec special tool "StoreMan" I can see the device
[22:23] <Aison> but lsscsi no
[22:25] <genii-around> It must be getting some odd devicename if not /dev/st0
[22:27] <genii-around> Aison: Is there a /dev/nst#
[22:29] <Aison> no :(
[22:35] <Aison> genii-around, hmm, now after reboot I get st0 and st1
[22:35] <Aison> why two?
[22:36] <Aison> [6:3:0:0]    tape    HP       Ultrium 5-SCSI   Z58W  /dev/st0  /dev/sg10
[22:36] <Aison> [6:3:0:1]    tape    HP       Ultrium 5-SCSI   Z58W  /dev/st1  /dev/sg11
[22:36] <genii-around> Probably has autochanger
[22:37] <Aison> yes, it is, so one is to control the autochanger?
[22:38] <genii-around> Believe so, yes. I've not had one like that so can't say for certain however
[22:38] <genii-around> Mostly I have to use ancient DAT tapes
[22:42] <crono_logical> oh well, guess it was just faster to rebuild/reinstall the VM from scratch than to fix it :{
[22:50] <subman> ls
[23:00] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone here specifically know how Ubuntu's version of mountall actually works in detail? Because it's almost completely undocumented for what it actually does, save for the minimal information in it's --help, but the manpage for mountall isn't even relevant at all to mountall that's actually provided by Ubuntu.
[23:18] <Aison> genii-around, funny, now I've got st0, st1 and nst0, nst0a, nst0l, nst0m nst1, nst1a, nst1l, nst1m
[23:18] <Aison> quite many devices
[23:20] <hijakk> howdy, I'm working on setting up a MaaS server VM, and am trying to find the instructions for what to do when you don't have control of the DHCP server, can anyone point me that way?
[23:50] <three18ti> hijakk, install from USB/cd and choose to manually enlist.
[23:51] <three18ti> but you're gone. so never mind.


[16:18] <pleia2> mhall119: the fellow who accentally took our group has stepped down, hopefully ubuntu loco teams main account got a "You've been asked to Organize Ubuntu California LoCo" email, can you see about accepting? /cc nhaines
[16:19] <mhall119> pleia2: if it got that email, I don't think I'd see it, only dpm. I will check with our meetup rep though
[16:20] <pleia2> ok, thanks :)
[16:21]  * Kilos waves to pleia2 and mhall119
[16:22] <pleia2> g'day Kilos


[11:19] <bhushana> hi, can anybody tell me how do I edit the status of a given release target through launchpad's email


[09:08] <Burgundavia> hmm, no beuno
[09:11] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: hmm?
[09:13] <juliux> morning jono
[09:14] <jono> hey
[09:19] <juliux> jono, is it ok if we use the name ubucon also in germany or should we add a -de ?
[09:19] <Burgundavia> hey jono
[09:20] <jono> juliux: yeah, the plan is that everyone uses the term ubucon
[09:20] <juliux> jono, good
[09:21] <juliux> jono, it was not clear for us if it is ok or not
[09:21] <jono> juliux: no worries, in fact I might register a spec for ubucon at the UDS
[09:21] <jono> juliux: will let you know
[09:21] <juliux> jono, cool
[09:22] <jono> juliux: keep me posted, looking forward to you folks running an ubucon
[09:22] <juliux> jono, we have setup a first desing idea for the website http://ubucon.linwiki.de
[09:22] <jono> juliux: cool - I might see if I can get a loco sorted for everyone, or a selection of logos :)
[09:23] <juliux> jono, with a chance of 75% we have a location
[09:23] <jono> juliux: awesome
[09:23] <juliux> jono, if we have a location bevor the linuxtag in berlin, we will make some extra flyer to announce the ubucon on the linuxtag
[09:27] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: geez, bloody jono :)
[09:27] <elkbuntu> ;)
[09:28] <jono> Burgundavia: har har
[09:29] <Burgundavia> softly, softly
[09:29] <juliux> hi sladen
[09:29] <juliux> elkbuntu, morning, did you have a new locoteam map?
[09:31] <elkbuntu> juliux, no, sorry :(
[09:31] <juliux> elkbuntu, don't worry i will take the old one tomorrow
[09:35] <elkbuntu> juliux, just point out that it's like 4 months old
[09:35] <Madpilot> The Nelson laugh? Did Burg get drunk and make a fool of himself again?
[09:36] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, elmo wanted to kill poor jono yesterday because corey put jono down as a contributor ;)
[09:36] <elkbuntu> on....
[09:36] <elkbuntu> the planet editorial policy thingie majiggie
[09:37] <elkbuntu> brb, cofffffffeeeeeee
[09:38] <elkbuntu> (or there'd wanna be some somewhere anyway)
[09:39] <Madpilot> At least he wasn't chasing spanish ducks.
[02:18] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, ping
[02:18] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: pong
[02:18] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, anything I can do on the UWN?
[02:18] <Burgundavia> if you want to do some proofreading, that would rock
[02:19] <Burgundavia> I was about to do some, but it is yours
[02:19] <boredandblogging> will do
[02:43] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: ping me if you need help
[02:44] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, ok
[03:33] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, are we going to drop the community spotlight section?
[03:33] <Burgundavia> if we have nothing, then yes
[03:34] <boredandblogging> ok, looks like then just the intro and the In This issue is all thats left
[03:34] <boredandblogging> i can fill them out
[03:34] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[03:59] <boredandblogging> Burgundavia, we are done
[04:09] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: excellent
[07:59] <jenda> juliux: ping
[08:05] <juliux> jenda, pong
[08:06] <jenda> got a maybe buyer for some shirts...
[08:06] <juliux> cool
[08:06] <jenda> will you send him info to his email?
[08:07] <jenda> or... erm. I just remembered you only have blue polos on stock, correct?
[08:07] <juliux> yes
[08:07] <juliux> only blue polos and t-shirts on stock
[08:07] <jenda> ok, I guess no more info is necessary
[08:07] <jenda> :)
[08:07] <jenda> thx
[08:07] <juliux> okj
[09:35] <beuno> anyone here going to debconf?