[17:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: please approve Na3il: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging
[17:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: and subscribe the packaging team to AbiWord please
[17:33] <tsimonq2> wxl: and respond to the AbiWord email please


[12:39] <tgier> hi
[12:39] <tgier> looking  to create some wallpapers, what resolution should one take?
[12:39] <tgier> for the base wp to create the others from i mean
[12:40] <tgier> or how does this work?


[00:02] <MrAsk> wxl: mine looks like one you linked... so it's seriously lampp's bug. How do I now determine which catalog is dedicated for website client? I tried to check directory of these audio files but when I tried to create file at /opt/lampp/share then communicat about not having access appeared. I know that I can copy files, everywhere via terminal with root, but I guess that it's still not correct directory
[00:03] <MrAsk> nevermind
[00:06] <MrAsk> like always >look for some such simple things that they shouldn't take more than 3 minutes for 20 minutes >no results >ask somewhere >find out answer yourself 3s after
[00:07] <wxl> huh?
[04:55] <K`zan> Hi folks, got pretty much everything going and am ready to replace the current server with the banana pi pro.  Only one problem left:
[04:56] <K`zan> I need to set up a static IP for it, not working as I have it.
[04:57] <K`zan> Got /etc/network/interfaces set up the same way I have it on this box (x86_64 ubu 14.04) but it isn't taking and google is no help.
[04:57] <K`zan> What I have is this (hopefully not too long):
[04:57] <Unit193> I'd say that networking file, or /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/eth0
[04:57] <Unit193> But if it's headless or a server and not wifi, I'd nuke NetworkManager.
[04:58] <K`zan> Sigh, please bear with me here :-).
[04:59] <K`zan> Nothing in that directory...
[05:00] <K`zan> Never seen that configuration method before, always have used /etc/network/interfaces
[05:00] <K`zan> Will be headless once I get this set up and swap out the old rpi server with it.
[05:01] <K`zan> Anyway:
[05:01] <K`zan> /etc/network/interfaces:
[05:01] <K`zan> auto eth0
[05:01] <K`zan> iface eth0 inet static
[05:01] <K`zan>         address myip.88
[05:01] <K`zan>         netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:02] <K`zan>         network myip.0
[05:02] <K`zan>         broadcast myip.255
[05:02] <K`zan>         gateway myip.73
[05:02] <K`zan>         dns-nameservers myip.73
[05:02] <K`zan> myip is the interal ip here (not myip but xxx.xxx.xxx)
[05:03] <K`zan> With the change of the address it works over here on x86 ubu 14.04
[05:03] <K`zan> Thoughts, ideas, pointers appreciated.
[05:03] <K`zan> MUCH :-).
[05:04] <Unit193> And what error do you get with  sudo ifup eth0  ?
[05:05] <K`zan> No error, etho comes up but with no ip and no gateway (netstat -nr).
[05:05] <K`zan> eth0
[05:05] <K`zan> ah, comes up with inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:06] <K`zan> Other monitor is slightly behind me, missed that.
[05:06] <K`zan> Also bringing up wlan2 which is commented out...
[05:06] <Unit193> Did you ifdown first?  Or, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:07] <K`zan> Shouldn't be up.
[05:07] <Unit193> It is if NM is managing the connections.
[05:07] <K`zan> Comes up this way on boot...
[05:08] <K`zan> Directory in /etc/NetworkManager/system.connections is empty.
[05:09] <K`zan> ifdown wlan2 returns "ifdown: interface wlan2 is not configured"
[05:09] <K`zan> It is up, but no, it isn't configured.
[05:10] <K`zan> ifconfig wlan2 down  - does take it down.
[05:12] <K`zan> /etc/init.d/networking restart does nothing.
[05:12] <K`zan> ditto status
[05:12] <K`zan> ditto start
[05:13] <K`zan> No error messages on eth0 in dmesg.
[05:14] <K`zan> Out of ideas...
[05:15] <K`zan> System starts it, but where it is getting it (wrong) is a mystery :-/.
[05:15] <K`zan> Taking care of my hubby who has MS, brb
[05:27] <K`zan> Back
[05:27] <Unit193> Front.
[05:33] <K`zan> :-), everything I can find says that the /etc/networking/interfaces should work for any linux system.  On the 6th page of google stuff and that is IT :-(.
[05:34] <K`zan> Nothing returned searching on "lubuntu" ip static (so far, other than the stuff for x86 ubu).
[05:35] <K`zan> Dealing with partnet again,  bbs
[05:39] <Unit193> Eh, I won't be of much help at this point, after I finish compiling everything taking the trash out then likly taking a walk.  Perhaps someone else will be able to help though.
[05:47] <K`zan> Thanks Unit193, after messing with this for two weeks plus, I am about ready to scrap it and get a minimal x86 box of some ilk.
[05:47] <K`zan> IF this wasn't the last issue :-), everything else is working.
[06:13] <K`zan> I got it :-).  Just did all the manual setup stuff in /etc/rc.local.  Doing final testing now before going live :-) :-) :-)!
[06:14] <K`zan> Thanks for the help and encouragement!
[15:01] <absk007> i've two ISOs "lubuntu-14.10-alternate-i386.iso" and "lubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso". What's the difference between them?
[15:07] <absk007> Unit193, ^^
[15:09] <krytarik> absk007: See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO#Types_of_installation
[16:21] <yeehi> how do you add user to groups, e.g. username: john group: netdev
[16:23] <yeehi> how do you solve the network add failed: insufficient privileges problem? (Failed to import openvpn config file)
[17:05] <jadesoturi> hi all. im trying to connect to my server with x2go and i need to know what commands lubuntu runs to get the gyi up..
[17:18] <holstein> jadesoturi: to start lubuntu? or the lxde session?
[17:18] <jadesoturi> lubuntu..
[17:19] <jadesoturi> cause when i choose lxde in x2go client, i get a different desktop then when i log in loclay, colors, menues, etc..
[17:19] <holstein> jadesoturi: sure, friend, you mean, you are trying to start lubuntu, the lxde session? remotly somehow?
[17:19] <jadesoturi> yes..
[17:19] <holstein> jadesoturi: you likely get just the lxde session.. i would look at what the client is set to strat..
[17:19] <holstein> start*
[17:20] <jadesoturi> x2go guys told me to figure out what lxsession is running and use that command, since the client is set to run startlxde
[17:20] <holstein> jadesoturi: sure, and you *are* starting lxde.. what you want to start is the lubuntu specific session
[17:21] <jadesoturi> yes..
[17:21] <holstein> and, you want to execute that at x2go.. not, where its already set to happen.. and im looking
[17:22] <holstein> AFAIK, the login manager is doing that.. have you tried starting lightdm?
[17:22] <jadesoturi> yeah i guess that would be the correct way of putting it.. i dont think i can start lightdm over ssh...:P
[17:22] <holstein> jadesoturi: whe i faced this, with freenx, i just tried a bunch of options, til i got what i needed
[17:23] <jadesoturi> also. suddenly i cant login in localy. after login to lightdm it just blinks a balck screen and goes back to the login page..
[17:23] <holstein> jadesoturi: sure, i dont know if you can start lightdm there, either, but, does that mean, yo uhave *not* tried? or, dont want to?
[17:23] <jadesoturi> hang on, ill try..  just specify lightdm as the command to run then? isnt lightdm a service?
[17:23] <holstein> jadesoturi: i would address the machine locally, and make sure its working and all the users can login. and you address why they cannot
[17:24] <jadesoturi> i was able to login localy, but after playing around with x2go and .xinitrc lightdm just logs back out again.
[17:24] <holstein> kill all running x2go server sessions on the server and restart 5) reconnect with x2go client and use 'custom' session type with /usr/bin/startlxde (or try /usr/bin/lxsession). If this doesn't work, then something is still wrong with your setup 6) If you want to use startlubuntu
[17:24] <holstein> jadesoturi: using "startlubuntu" is suggested there.. have you tried that?
[17:25] <jadesoturi> hang on..
[17:25] <holstein> a work around is referenced.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/360358/13-10-startlubuntu-command-for-x2go
[17:25] <holstein> that is an older version of both, so, i wouldnt use the software there. just apply the ideas to your current 14.04 or 14.10 and current x2go
[17:25] <jadesoturi> but why am i suddenly unable to login localy ?
[17:25] <holstein> jadesoturi: i have no idea, friend.. i would go to tty..
[17:25] <holstein> !tty
[17:26] <holstein> and see if you *are* able to login, or, if its just that you are not able to pull up the GUI at login
[17:26] <holstein> if the gui is not starting, the issue is usually in the users .config
[17:27] <holstein> i would personally just move or rename (temporarily, so i can undo this step easily) the ~/.config directory in my users home, and test the GUI, *if* i can login in tty, testing my users login and credentials
[17:27] <holstein> this helps you isolate out "i am suddenly unable to login" from, a config error created from configuring x2go, or this session
[17:29] <jadesoturi> i am able to login in tty1 and run startx(with xinit set to startlxde)
[17:29] <jadesoturi> in tty7 i have lightdm running with gui. loggin in there just throws me back out..
[17:30] <holstein> jadesoturi: ?
[17:30] <holstein> jadesoturi: i never said "try running startx"
[17:30] <holstein> jadesoturi: i said, go to tty, and try to login
[17:30] <jadesoturi> i can login in tty1 no problem
[17:31] <holstein> i think you are mistaking loading the GUI and logging in.. if you *can* input your username and password in tty, the you *can* login
[17:31] <holstein> if you cant start the gui, thats different than "i cant login".. thats, "the GUI doesnt start"
[17:31] <jadesoturi> running startlxde gives me the default lxde desktop on on tt8 then.. running lxsession does nothing..
[17:32] <jadesoturi> or lxsession give me "cannot open display:"
[17:32] <holstein> jadesoturi: sure.. you cant run multiple ones
[17:32] <jadesoturi> but at the same time on tty7 lightdm login is running..
[17:32] <holstein> jadesoturi: at least, not as you are trying
[17:32] <jadesoturi> ok. so how do i fix the lightdm login then?
[17:32] <holstein> jadesoturi: so, please dont expect to.. isolate out if you can login or not, and the sessions that are starting
[17:32] <holstein> jadesoturi: i dont think anything is broken
[17:33] <jadesoturi> ok. so why cant i login through lightdm then?
[17:33] <holstein> jadesoturi: you should be able to, just hit the powerbutton, and be presented with the login screen.. input your password, and login to the lubuntu session..
[17:33] <jadesoturi> i enter the password and just tossed back out to the login screen again
[17:33] <holstein> jadesoturi: as i said, the session config can be broken, *if* you are not able to start the GUI.. you *can* login.. that is not the issue..
[17:34] <holstein> jadesoturi: sure. *thats* what i would expect, if, as i suggested, i have a broken config in ~/.config
[17:34] <ianorlin> or this might be an x2go issue
[17:34] <holstein> yup ^
[17:34] <holstein> its not a repo package..
[17:34] <holstein> ideally, they would just support lubuntu.. its all open for them to do so..
[17:35] <jadesoturi> x2go is not running
[17:35] <jadesoturi> how to fix the .config then?
[17:36] <holstein> jadesoturi: suggested above, i say, i would just rename or move my ~/.config directory, so i can test and revert
[17:36] <holstein> jadesoturi: i would isolate these issues out.. i would get my user and desktop loading as expected.. *then* try working again with "startlubuntu" in x2go
[17:37] <jadesoturi> ok. listen: x2go is NOT running i have moved my .config dir to .config.old
[17:38] <holstein> jadesoturi: sure. so, you should get stock, working configs for your gui.. you can boot the machine up, and login as normal, and test
[17:38] <jadesoturi> justD1r3kt4Srebooted..
[17:39] <jadesoturi> still cant login on tty7 whre lightdm is running.. just gets thrown back out agian.
[17:39] <holstein> jadesoturi: you mean, you cant start the GUI
[17:39] <holstein> jadesoturi: that is not the same, again, as logging in
[17:39] <holstein> jadesoturi: if you can login in tty1, then that *is* a login.. the user can login..
[17:39] <holstein> jadesoturi: is that the case?
[17:39] <jadesoturi> well. i have a login GUI running on TTY7, with lightdm. so i guess gui is running..
[17:39] <holstein> when i am experiencing what you are, i immediately test my user and password in tty1
[17:40] <jadesoturi> i can login on tty1 perfectly. but cant login through the lightdm gui on tty7, the one with the purple background and session selection etc..
[17:40] <holstein> jadesoturi: what do i do? i want to know what is broken.. i want to isolate out my user from the rest of the system.. i go to tty1, and try logging in
[17:41] <holstein> if i can there, then, i go back to the main login screen,a nd try the guest session, or another user.. ill make one if there is none
[17:41] <jadesoturi> ok. iv gone to tty1. logged in just fine..
[17:41] <holstein> in that scenario, i can answer the following important questions.. is my user logging in? is *any* user able to start *any* session?
[17:42] <holstein> then, i can go from there, knowing if its a local user issue, or a system issue
[17:42] <jadesoturi> logged in just fine on lightdm gui iwht another user..
[17:42] <holstein> jadesoturi: cool.. so, now you know where the issue likely is
[17:42] <jadesoturi> that users .config?
[17:42] <holstein> jadesoturi: there are "session" settings even in that GUI.. when you choose your user, you can choose the session.. "default" , "lxde".. etc
[17:43] <jadesoturi> yeah iknow.they are set to lubuntu
[17:45] <holstein> i dont know what who has done what to try and make x2go work.. and, there are the x2go system files that can break or not work
[17:45] <jadesoturi> x2go is NOT RUNNING .. i uninstalled it..
[17:46] <holstein> jadesoturi: sure.. i hear you, friend.. but, you "sudo" installed not system packages.. that can cause issues.. im not saying they have, just trying to help you isolate.. no need for caps.. i understand its not runing, and that you have removed that package. but, ther are dependencies. and likely a PPA
[17:47] <holstein> what i would do is whatever it takes to make my user work again.. i would just temporarily move *all* of my .hidden files that i feel are relevant.. and test til it boots and loads the default session for that user
[17:48] <jadesoturi> ok. i can login with another user. no problem. so i copied his home dir to my home dir- does nothing..
[17:49] <holstein> jadesoturi: i wouldnt, personally, copy a working one over.. i would just let new default ones spawn..
[17:49] <jadesoturi> how. just delete everything in /home/username?
[17:49] <jadesoturi> would that respawn the needed files?
[17:49] <holstein> i would look, also, at my saved sessions, as per http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[17:50] <holstein> i would carefully note what i do
[17:50] <holstein> jadesoturi: the .hidden config directories that are relevant
[17:50] <holstein> anything i feel would keep the GUI session im trying to load from loading
[17:51] <jadesoturi> and what would that be? this is a clean install.
[17:51] <holstein> jadesoturi: ?
[17:51] <jadesoturi> what .hidden files are relevant?
[17:51] <holstein> jadesoturi: i dont know what you mean by "clean install", but, you have installed, at least, x2go.. that makes it *not* clean
[17:51] <holstein> jadesoturi: if you dont know, as i said, i would just move or rename them, so i can easily revert..
[17:52] <jadesoturi> ok. x2go is removed along with it dependencies..
[17:52] <jadesoturi> all config files of it are removed..
[17:52] <holstein> !ppapurge
[17:52] <holstein> but, im not saying x2go is the cause of the issue..
[17:52] <jadesoturi> i dont think it is. cause it works for other users..
[17:52] <jadesoturi> and the other users also had x2go working.
[17:53] <jadesoturi> so its something else.
[17:53] <holstein> jadesoturi: *you* had x3go working.. just not loading the lubuntu session
[17:53] <jadesoturi> yes
[17:53] <holstein> and, i realize it must be challenging.. x2go saying "go get support from lubuntu"
[17:53] <holstein> but, lubuntu is a *very* lean team..
[17:53] <jadesoturi> i dont htink you understand..
[17:54] <wxl> what's the problem?
[17:54] <jadesoturi> x2go just asked me to figure out what lxsession was starting..
[17:54] <jadesoturi> thats all
[17:54] <jadesoturi> the problem is that i cant login thourgh lightdm with my main user anymore
[17:54] <jadesoturi> just get thrown back out again
[17:54] <holstein> 12:05 < jadesoturi> hi all. im trying to connect to my server with x2go and i need to know what commands lubuntu runs to get the gyi up..
[17:54] <jadesoturi> it works for the other users on the machine..
[17:55] <wxl> sounds like a problem with your user
[17:55] <jadesoturi> yeah but what?
[17:55] <wxl> probably something in ~/.config
[17:55] <jadesoturi> i rename the .config dir to .config.old
[17:55] <wxl> and same problem?
[17:55] <jadesoturi> yes
[17:56] <wxl> have you checked ummm what is it ~/.run ? where the lx logs are?
[17:56] <jadesoturi> nope hang on
[17:56] <jadesoturi> there is no .run dir in my home folder
[17:59] <wxl> gimme a sec
[17:59] <wxl> not in front of lubuntu, have to get a vm going
[17:59] <jadesoturi> no worries. and thank you..!
[18:10] <jadesoturi> iv tried copying the .config/folder from the user it works for the user it does not work for - but no go  still :/
[18:11] <wxl> sorry
[18:11] <wxl> little system hang there for some reason
[18:16] <wxl> jadesoturi: ~/.cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log
[18:17] <jadesoturi> all sort off errors therE:P
[18:18] <wxl> pastebin it
[18:18] <jadesoturi> how can i do it from terminal ?
[18:18] <wxl> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && cat ~/.cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log | pastebinit
[18:19] <wxl> jadesoturi: doesn't hexchat have an /exec command
[18:19] <wxl> ?
[18:19] <jadesoturi> im on hexchat on windows and logged in to the server on putty..
[18:19] <wxl> oh yeah
[18:19] <jadesoturi> its a vm running on an esxi
[18:19] <wxl> nevermind :)
[18:20] <jadesoturi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10541851
[18:20] <wxl> direktadmin is the user that's problematic i'm assuming?
[18:21] <jadesoturi> yes
[18:22] <wxl> could you also give me the same file from the user that works?
[18:23] <jadesoturi> hang on..
[18:24] <jadesoturi>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10541903/
[18:26] <wxl> interesting
[18:26] <wxl> seems to be little difference at the end there
[18:26] <wxl> if you use a differnt session, does it work?
[18:26] <jadesoturi> hang on.
[18:27] <jadesoturi> works for both lxde and lubuntu
[18:27] <jadesoturi> the ones that i have installed..
[18:27] <jadesoturi> and lubuntu-netbook
[18:27] <wxl> so the only one is doesn't work for is…?
[18:28] <jadesoturi> direktadmin user does not work on any session
[18:28] <jadesoturi> but i can login with that user in ssh and tty1 no problem
[18:28] <wxl> interesting
[18:29] <wxl> i wonder if there's some sort of permissions issue
[18:30] <jadesoturi> maybe..
[18:30] <jadesoturi> is there a way to just "recreate" the whole direktadmin user?
[18:31] <wxl> well you could make a new user and then move all your stuff over and change all the permissions and ownership and blah blah blah
[18:31] <jadesoturi> i havent really setup anything on this machine yet. so no customization made to any users
[18:31] <jadesoturi> so if i root to the machine, remove direktadmin and then recreate him ?
[18:32] <wxl> you certainly could do that
[18:33] <jadesoturi> ahh shit. have to add another user to sudo group first.
[18:33] <wxl> !language | jadesoturi
[18:33] <wxl> ↑ just saying.
[18:33] <jadesoturi> sorry... just a bit frustrated here
[18:33] <wxl> understand, but we do get some underagers here
[18:34] <wxl> not to mention people that would be offended by it…
[18:34] <jadesoturi> i understand. im sorry. wont happen again..
[18:44] <jadesoturi> ok. so recreating the user worked.. logs in no problem now..
[18:44] <wxl> yay
[18:44] <jadesoturi> now just to figure out how to start lubuntu from x2go .. hehe
[18:44] <wxl> assumedly it should be easy now
[18:44] <wxl> you might want to just start lightdm
[18:45] <jadesoturi> ill try that. just need to reintsall x2go agian since i purged it..
[18:48] <jadesoturi> but would that be the right way to go? since lightdm is already running on the machine?
[18:49] <jadesoturi> and to start lightdm i just run lightdm ?
[18:50] <wxl> well hm
[18:50] <jadesoturi> lightdm did not work :/
[18:50] <wxl> i'm not sure how x2go works
[18:50] <wxl> !info x2go
[18:50] <ianorlin> it might be x2go is trying to start an lxde-session
[18:50] <wxl> hm
[18:50] <wxl> why are you trying to use x2go?
[18:50] <ianorlin> I think you maybe should ask in #x2go
[18:50] <jadesoturi> need gui access from wan to the server.
[18:51] <wxl> we use no machine at work
[18:51] <wxl> it also uses nx
[18:51] <jadesoturi> x2go guys told me to figure out what lxsession is running to get the lubuntu desktop up. if i just select LXDE it starts the LXDE session. i want it to start the lubuntu session.
[18:51] <wxl> it just connects to the existant session
[18:52] <wxl> have you tried startlubuntu?
[18:52] <jadesoturi> yeah its not an exisiting command on the servere.
[18:52] <jadesoturi> -e
[18:52] <ianorlin> jadesoturi, one hack could be copying the lubuntu configs to the lxde session
[18:52] <ianorlin> or try starting a custom session called lubuntu
[18:52] <ianorlin> as that is the solution for openbox
[18:53] <jadesoturi> ok.. but what does lightdm call when you select the Lubuntu in sessions?
[18:53] <jadesoturi> for lxde it runs startlxde , right?
[18:55] <jadesoturi> if i use lxsession i just get the same as startlxde ..
[18:57] <ianorlin> jadesoturi copying the lubuntu configs to lxde might work if you get lxde to work it just won't say lubuntu session
[19:00] <jadesoturi> ill see what i figure out. gots to go no.thanks for all the help...!
[19:01] <wxl> good luck man
[19:03] <yeehi> how do you add a user to a group? For example, user: john group: devnet ?
[19:05] <wxl> the "easy" way is to use the users & groups thing in preferences (or was that system?) yeehi
[19:05] <yeehi> hi,wxl
[19:06] <wxl> system tools
[19:06] <yeehi> i dont see that option in that menu, wxl. This is an older system
[19:07] <wxl> how old?
[19:09] <wxl> !useradd | yeehi
[22:07] <yeehi> what is lxde equivalent of gnome-control-center and the one for allocating users to groups?
[22:09] <Unit193> users-admin
[22:18] <yeehi> thank you Unit193, let me try that
[22:19] <yeehi> command not found, unable to locate package, Unit 193
[22:19] <yeehi> Unit193
[22:19] <Unit193> gnome-system-tools is the package it comes from, thought that was shipped by default..
[22:20] <yeehi> just a moment, please
[22:20] <Unit193> Hrm, it is, at least in vivid.
[22:24] <ianorlin> I think it was in trusty and utopic as well