[08:06] <scguy318_2> heman: I really dunno, that may be a possibility :(
[08:06] <Zergiu> ok
[08:06] <Bassxman1> im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16   please help me
[08:06] <Absolute0> any cool game providided with apt-get?
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: yes, theres stuff like Tremulous, Freeciv, etc.
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: and apt-get is just an APT frontend ;)
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: the real meat is dpkg and the repos that it manages
[08:07] <notebook> anyone could help with removing a duplicate icon from gnome panel?  is there some edit command i can run?  thanks for help
[08:07] <heman> scguy: ok thanks well I have windows on here aswell so maybe I just install on windows if it doesn't work on linux
[08:07] <JeSTeR7> are there performance issues in using KDE programs on Gnome, or is it simply about aesthetics?
[08:07] <darkchr0n0s> how do i schedule a shutdown ? "sudo shutdown -h 100" din't work last time i used
[08:07] <mooper> since I upgraded my kernel the sound stopped working on my laptop!! suggestions?
[08:08] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: i just got used to apt-get
[08:08] <scguy318_2> heman: kk, theres nothing wrong with dual-booting if you have to
[08:08] <Absolute0> theres a million of frontends by now
[08:08] <petru> hello guys! got one tiny problem; after i installed xgl drivers and enebled ubuntu desktop effects, i cant anymore turnoff or restart the computer from the usual icon. what to do for get back the missing shortcuts?
[08:08] <Absolute0> but apt-get seems to be the most friendly
[08:08] <Zergiu> well in the end I'm gona install amarok with the synaptic package manager
[08:08] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: some people here recommend aptitude, but all the same for me :P
[08:08] <Absolute0> why would one be better than the other?
[08:09] <imscifi> ok so I wasn't paying very good attention, did anyone answer if there is a package for intel 950 gma drivers?
[08:09] <PKdoR> how can i remove a directory through the terminal?
[08:09] <JeSTeR7> are there performance issues in using KDE programs on Gnome, or is it simply about aesthetics?
[08:09] <Bassxman1> im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16   please help me
[08:09] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: does tremulous require opengl?
[08:09] <scguy318_2> i imagine usability
[08:09] <Poundo> I have a usb drive plugged in but fdisk -l only shows sda1 sda2 sda5 nothing about the usb as far as I can tell so I don't know howto mount it.
[08:10] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR: rm -rf /directory/name
[08:10] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: of course, its a 3D game, there are tons of other games tbh
[08:10] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: i got an ati card and its not supported on linux :(
[08:10] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: that do not require 3D
[08:10] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: well, i hear the latest ATI driver due sometime this month may rectify that
[08:10] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : you can get ATi prop drivers
[08:11] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: and they work good?
[08:11] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318_2 the link is out.. you can download from ati.amd.com
[08:11] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo: and the terminal should be default on my home folder no?
[08:11] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 i have ATi mobility radeon.. working pretty decent for me
[08:11] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: should i download from the link instead of ubuntu repos?
[08:11] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR yes
[08:11] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: i meant the one that should have AIGLX support
[08:11] <darkchr0n0s> what i AIGLX again ?
[08:12] <darkchr0n0s> what si*
[08:12] <darkchr0n0s> is*
[08:12] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: what driver are you using for you ati card?
[08:12] <dardan> hi
[08:12] <sky1> scguy318, its working thanks :)
[08:12] <Absolute0> xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[08:12] <dardan> anyone how can i convert mov file to mp3
[08:12] <dardan> ?
[08:13] <scguy318_2> sky1: np
[08:13] <scguy318_2> dardan: prob a bit of ffmpeg play or VLC transcode
[08:13] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : no... i got it from ati.amd.com, i think they call it fglrx or somthing
[08:13] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: AIGLX = Accelerated Indiret something
[08:13] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: do they have a deb pkg?
[08:13] <dardan> scguy318 thx probing :)
[08:13] <fredikk> hello i am trying to find the repos for ubuntu 5 breezy, that seem not to exist in the mirror: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu anyone could help?
[08:13] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo:  so if i want to delete a directory named f1 in my home folder i would type "rm -rf /f1" correct?
[08:13] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: its what Beryl/Compiz uses for their magic
[08:13] <siloko> dardan: isn't one an AV format and the other just an Audio format?
[08:13] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : they have bin files
[08:14] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: no slash, but yeah
[08:14] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318_2 : i have compiz working on my laptop with ATi
[08:14] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: what about xorg-driver-fglrx in the repositories?
[08:14] <dardan> siloko: file.mov it is audio
[08:14] <fredikk> i mean there are several other versions there but no beeze
[08:14] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR: not exactly, just type rm -rf f1
[08:14] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: yeah, cuz XGL
[08:14] <fredikk> r
[08:14] <fredikk> y
[08:14] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : i haven't used that.. i started off with prop drivers
[08:14] <Absolute0> isnt fglrx the proprietary one?
[08:15] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: they are
[08:15] <darkchr0n0s> i think it is
[08:15] <Absolute0> xorg-video-ati is the open sourc one
[08:15] <Absolute0> so does it matter if i get flgrx or the ones on the ati site?
[08:15] <darkchr0n0s> fglrx = the one on the ati site
[08:16] <Absolute0> fglrx the one in apt-cache search fglrx :)
[08:16] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: the driver packages in the repos are obviously not the latest
[08:16] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: but a better bet of working a-ok
[08:16] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: i dont need latest i need working
[08:16] <profanephobia> how can i unmount a binded dir?
[08:16] <Absolute0> with full 3d acceleration
[08:16] <Absolute0> ok i guess theres only one way to find out
[08:16] <ZeroA4> Absolute0, anyone should work
[08:16] <Absolute0> oh
[08:16] <Absolute0> :)
[08:16] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : just goto ati.amd.com and get the drivers..
[08:17] <darkchr0n0s> what is the hold ?
[08:17] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo: I tryed it but it sayas canot delete F1 permission denied
[08:17] <Absolute0> dark which card do you have?
[08:17] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: who owns the directory? if its owned by root you'll have to prefix sudo
[08:17] <kazim59> What is the command to install all packages in all repositories? (sudo apt-get install everything!)
[08:17] <siloko> profanephobia: What do you mean by bound directory?
[08:17] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : ATi Mobility Radeon x2300
[08:18] <darkchr0n0s> kazim59 : i don't think you want to install everything !
[08:18] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR: try sudo rm -rf /home/username/directoryname
[08:18] <Absolute0> i got x200 m which is not on the ati site
[08:18] <kazim59> darkchr0n0s: somebody wants to do so.. he has asked me the question...
[08:18] <ZeroA4> Absolute0, i have a note with a Radeon x700... i just used Restrited Drivers Manager and it installed it for me
[08:18] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo: TY sir that worked I had to sudo
[08:18] <profanephobia> siloko, i did a "mount -o bind dir_from/blah dir_to/blah" and now i need to undo it
[08:18] <josh43> Can anyone help me with a multi-threaded ftp upload script?
[08:18] <kazim59> darkchr0n0s: I know this is awkward... but is this possible with one command
[08:18] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR no problem :)
[08:19] <darkchr0n0s> kazim59 : never tried.. i don't have much hard drive on my laptop
[08:19] <Absolute0> gotchya
[08:19] <Pici> josh43: You'll probably get a better response in #bash
[08:19] <josh43> Pici: Thanks; was just looking through the channel names for something like that :)
[08:20] <PKdoR> is there any p2p apps for linux?
[08:20] <Pici> !p2p | PKdoR
[08:20] <ubotu> PKdoR: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:20] <scguy318_2> !p2p | PKdoR
[08:21] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR yes there is, there are a few you can install using apt-get install like nicotine, amarok and bittorrent
[08:21] <Grundoko> how can i add system fonts
[08:21] <scguy318_2> !fonts
[08:21] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:22] <profanephobia> siloko, any ideas?
[08:22] <Grundoko> thanks ill check it out
[08:22] <PKdoR> is vuze (azureus 3.x) running on linux?
[08:22] <ljsmithx> Hello guys, Im not shore wether to stay with os x or go with ubuntu.
[08:22] <ljsmithx> What should i do?
[08:22] <amadeux> Using hdparm -Tt, I can see (and feel) that my hard disks are suddenly much slower than they used to be. I fiddled around with hdparm the other day, but I just tried rebooting to see if it helped. It didn't. How can I "reset" the hdparm settings back to normal? Would booting in Windows and then back into linux help?
[08:22] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: not sure, think not
[08:22] <siloko> profanephobia: sudo umount <target dir>
[08:23] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: you could try directly obtaining packages/sources/w/e from their site
[08:23] <ZeroA4> ljsmithx, you should evaluate it for youself
[08:23] <profanephobia> siloko, k thanks
[08:23] <PKdoR> can I run a p2p through wine?
[08:23] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: I have tried mount /dev/sda1 /"usb 1-1"  mount /dev/sda1 /usb 1-1 even mount /dev/sda1 /uhci_hcd those are all the values i got from dmesg showing the drive was connected but no luck
[08:23] <ljsmithx> I know, but. For some reason I have an odd urge to go with linux,
[08:23] <Webbmaster> PKdoR: depends which one, but yeah
[08:23] <Webbmaster> PKdoR: why tho?
[08:23] <Absolute0> whats the difference between apptitude and apt-get?
[08:23] <ljsmithx> ...A weired fealing inside
[08:24] <ljsmithx> weird*
[08:24] <Grundoko> i think i did it
[08:24] <scguy318_2> ljsmithx: try the LiveCD, decide which one you want to go with, and ask any questions here
[08:24] <SpiderPig> how do i get java applet installed? i installed java
[08:24] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: aptitude has a CLI interface
[08:24] <ljsmithx> Sorry if im annoying.
[08:24] <PKdoR> cause I use vuse as my main and prettymuch only torrent client and It might not work on linux
[08:24] <scguy318_2> SpiderPig: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[08:24] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: isnt apt-get cli as well?
[08:24] <SpiderPig> scguy dont i also need to install the fonts and such?
[08:24] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: it could be the partition format on the drive is not supported
[08:25] <Poundo> on the usb you mean
[08:25] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: yeah, but aptitude has more of an interface, so to speak, so if you typed aptitude, you would get a window that looks similar to dpkg-reconfigure
[08:25] <ljsmithx> What are the advantages of using Feisty over OS X
[08:25] <ljsmithx> ??
[08:25] <scguy318_2> SpiderPig: perhaps
[08:25] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: yes
[08:25] <scguy318_2> ljsmithx: its free, not proprietary, um
[08:25] <PKdoR> Webbmaster: cause I use vuse as my main and prettymuch only torrent client and It might not work on linux
[08:25] <Nalleman> What packages should I install to get a java virtual machine? medibuntu is added. thanks.
[08:26] <ljsmithx> ...
[08:26] <Webbmaster> PKdoR: try it in wine, it might or might not work
[08:26] <Webbmaster> check the appDB one winehq.org
[08:26] <ljsmithx> Ok... My cd drive is too slow to take on the live cd
[08:26] <ljsmithx> G3 iMac 2001
[08:26] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: try installing the NTFS configuration tool and enable the read/write option for external drives, then retry to connect the drive
[08:26] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: can I set the format when I create the mount like ntfs or something to force the filesystem to be correct this was a windows drive
[08:27] <ljsmithx> And the text install has never worked for me.
[08:27] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: yes you can
[08:27] <fredikk> anyone knows where i could find ubuntu breezy's archive?
[08:27] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: sorry a little quick on the draw. Is that something I can get with apt-get
[08:27] <fredikk> all mirrors have dapper, feistyand gutsy but not breezy
[08:28] <ompaul> fredikk, discontinued unsupported
[08:28] <siloko> Nalleman: type java -version at the commandline - I think GNU Java is installed by default
[08:28] <Pici> fredikk: one moment.
[08:28] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: yes
[08:28] <siloko> Nalleman: if you want a different version (SUN or IBM) then go to the appropriate site and follow the instaructions
[08:28] <notebook> would anyone advise about removing duplicate icons from the gnome panel?
[08:28] <fredikk> ompaul:at last! someone helps me on this. i'm serching for hours now!
[08:28] <Pici> !java | Nalleman
[08:28] <ubotu> Nalleman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:28] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[08:28] <Pici> ompaul: There is a repo still open though.
[08:29] <Pici> fredikk: I did mention at least once that it was at end of life.
[08:29] <ljsmithx> Whats away of making OS X feel more like Linux?
[08:29] <ljsmithx> Or is that stupid?
[08:29] <fredikk> PIci:you mentioned it?what do you mean when?
[08:29] <Nalleman> siloko, I tried to install jalbum but it wouldnt work because of some java issue. Really, I dont know what it means or what java actually is... :)
so do you know the url of the still working one:
[08:30] <fredikk> ?
[08:30] <Pici> fredikk: er, looks like the url doesnt work. oops.
[08:30] <fredikk> which was it?
[08:31] <Nalleman> perhaps its the sun-java5-jre I need... *trying*
[08:31] <chamunks> scguy318, so would it be tracker proxy?
[08:31] <siloko> Nalleman: well that's what it says on the jalbum website ;)
[08:31] <peter_> can anyone tell me how to install this driver... gspcav1-20070508.ebuild...or any webcam driver for that matter?
[08:31] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: one more question I do ultimately  want to use this USB on the linux box so this wont disable that feature right
[08:31] <Pici> fredikk: It doesnt matter.  Breezy isnt supported anymore anyway.
[08:31] <Poundo> and I found something called ntfsprogs?
[08:31] <bam_> Hi I was wondering if anyone could answer a quick question. In java, if I throw a an exception in the middle of a function, will the rest of the function the executed?
[08:32] <Nalleman> siloko, oh... well. then it ouht to work :]
[08:32] <ompaul> fredikk, grab yourself feisty or some such
[08:32] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: no it wont
[08:32] <ISeeYou> hello
[08:32] <fredikk> Pici:ok man thanks
[08:32] <siloko> Nalleman: unless you have specifically installed SUN java then you will only have GNU Java which is often buggy with software developed for SUN
[08:33] <siloko>  !java | Nalleman
[08:33] <ubotu> Nalleman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:33] <LinuxJuggalo> !ntfs | Poundo
[08:33] <ubotu> Poundo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:33] <notebook> hello all--i have two identical icons in my system tray of the gnome panel.  i think i installed a program twice.  how do i remove with duplicate with out removing the whole panel?  sorry for such a simple question and thanks for any help.
[08:33] <notebook> without removing the whole program, i mean
[08:34] <siloko> notebook: right click on the second icon and choose remove
[08:34] <notebook> siloko--thanks, but when i do that i remove both icons.
[08:34] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: is it ntfstools or ntfsprogs?
[08:34] <siloko> notebook: so when you remove them both how do you get them back again?
[08:35] <notebook> i believe i just added the program to the system tray, but i forget how to get back to that.
[08:35] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: just sudo apt-get install ntsf-config
[08:35] <notebook> sorry, i'm really asking basic things.  cheers for your help siloko
[08:35] <Flats> Ok Flats the rookie is back, And todays clueless question has to do with sound. Alsa or OSS? It seems my system supports both. Does it matter which I use?
[08:36] <siloko> notebook: are you talking about icons in the notification area or the panel in general?
[08:36] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: after it is install it should appear in applications>system tools>NTFS Configuration Tool
[08:36] <siloko> notebook: because some software is a bit buggy with putting icons inthe notification area (Network Manager being a prime example)
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !external drives | Poundo
[08:37] <notebook> i guess that's what it is, the notification area.  it's upper right hand corner.
[08:37] <notebook> shows the programs currently running.
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !externaldrives | Poundo
[08:37] <siloko> notebook: whats the application?
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about external drives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about externaldrives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <notebook> it's a pretty obscure program for running multiple language keyboards
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !usb drives | Poundo
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb drives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <ZmaX> Hi all. I have to _uninstall_ Compiz Fusion and not Compiz. How can I do? :)
[08:38] <LinuxJuggalo> ubotu you suck lol
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck lol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <siloko> notebook: it's probably a bug . . although I don't know for sure - I had a problem with this in Network Manager - found a work around on ubuntuforums - can't remeber what it was - sorry
[08:38] <notebook> works with SCIM but i set it up the first week i had ubuntu and am really not sure how i did it.  but it works great.  thanks again for helping, siloko
[08:39] <FreshPrince> moin
[08:39] <notebook> is there anything you can pull up to see which programs are set up in the notifications area?
[08:39] <FreshPrince> whasts the default Filesystem for boot? ext2?
[08:39] <genii> Yup or ext3
[08:40] <FreshPrince> [genii]  ok thx.. i think i'm gonna use ext2 .) thx
[08:40] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: apt-get can't find it i tried apt-cache search and it's not pulled up
[08:40] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[08:41] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[08:42] <Flats> All the sound tests sound like a constant horn going off. Isthat normal?
[08:43] <whiskeytang1> So..
[08:43] <riotkittie> so...
[08:43] <whiskeytang1> Looks like they solved everyones problems.
[08:43] <siloko> problems? what problems . . .
[08:44] <riotkittie> or everyone with problems has gone to fall into the fetal position and weep
[08:44] <SpiderPig> Flats i still have some spare love left over for you
[08:44] <whiskeytang1> hey i left the room
[08:44] <Flats> woo hoo
[08:44] <whiskeytang1> man im loving the opera client...
[08:45] <SpiderPig> whiskeytang yeah it aint got tha memory leak problem
[08:45] <chris__> whats the desktop effects chat?
[08:45] <anthony> chris__: #ubuntu-effects
[08:45] <way2cool> hey
[08:45] <chris__> thanks
[08:45] <whiskeytang1> "#screenwentblankandcomputercaughtfire"
[08:47] <whiskeytang1> Whats best software for dvd burning with ubuntu?  like i want to burn my recently downloaded movie to a dvd..
[08:47] <anthony> !burners | whiskeytang1
[08:47] <ubotu> whiskeytang1: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:48] <whiskeytang1> thank you anthony
[08:50] <Desert_Storm> Hello
[08:50] <Desert_Storm> Could anyone help me?
[08:50] <dgjones> !anyone | Desert_Storm
[08:50] <ubotu> Desert_Storm: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:52] <recon> did I just miss a netsplit or something?
[08:53] <genpfault> Is there a program that can 'wrap' another and simulate adverse network conditions for testing purposes?
[08:53] <Hestv4> SATA is sweet.... new disk plugged in and formatted without power cycling!
[08:53] <Creeture> Hey all. I have a 6.10 server install. Want to upgrade it to 7.10 server. I have 7.04 alternate desktop and 7.10 alternate desktop CDs. Will the updater behave properly using those?
[08:53] <ayman> hi
[08:53] <riotkittie> Creeture: do you really want to upgrade your server to a beta?
[08:53] <IndyGunFreak> Creeture: depends...
[08:53] <Creeture> riotkittie: Yeah, this one I do.
[08:53] <recon> LjL: if you're there, i reported the xchat TCL thing as a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/148222 , you can confirm it if you like.
[08:53] <ayman> any body here
[08:54] <X3N> hi there i just failed the installation for the ati driver but i looked into the x.org log file and found an error in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/  so how do i update or downgrade to the correct x.org?
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> Creeture: i'd make sure you back everying up,
[08:54] <recon> ayman: hi there.
[08:54] <ayman> iam wann get some help
[08:54] <Creeture> I don't wanna know if I should do it, I want to know if it's going to try to install the desktop stuff. That's all.
[08:54] <ayman> :$
[08:54] <dgjones> Creeture, you'd at least be better waiting until Gutsy is fully released and not just test software
[08:54] <recon> ayman: do you speak a language other than english more fluently than english?
[08:54] <ayman> :( maby iam  alone here
[08:54] <recon> ayman: /join #ubuntu
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> i've never gotten ati drivers to work, ever.. thats why i stick w/ nvidial.
[08:54] <X3N> it keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:54] <Desert_Storm> Wow
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> recon: lol, thats where he is.
[08:55] <Desert_Storm> My first day of Ubuntu
[08:55] <dgjones> ayman, you need to say what you're problem is before you'll know whether anyone is around to help
[08:55] <Desert_Storm> And, im doing great, for a newcomer =P
[08:55] <Bk> good day
[08:55] <way2cool> hey peeps
[08:55] <recon> IndyGunFreak: wait, what? crap. i thought i was in offtopic.
[08:55] <Bk> hi everybody
[08:55] <ZmaX> Hi all. I have to _uninstall_ Compiz Fusion and not Compiz. How can I do? :)
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> recon: lol
[08:55] <puma> hi
[08:55] <disasm> i have an ldap auth /w kerberos and nfs mounted home directories on workstations. Everything works fine... Unless it loses connectivity with LDAP server on boot, then it takes forever to boot, it eventually boots, but trying to login as root hangs because it's trying to find the root account on the ldap server, any ideas? I was thinking about on a test machine switching nsswitch.conf to files before ldap, but I think we have ldap first s
[08:55] <neopsyche> what is the best antivirus package for ubuntu?
[08:55] <smacfarl> Are there any 7.10 docs yet. Would like to read more about what I have just installed.
[08:55] <jurp5> hi
[08:55] <recon> IndyGunFreak: i forgot i reinstalled, meaning my default IRC channel isn't offtopic. crap.
[08:55] <way2cool> if i want to upgrade from 7.04 to gutsy, what should i do.. use "Manager updateR" or download the iso???
[08:55] <riotkittie> neopsyche: you dont really need an AV
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> recon: there's worse things.
[08:55] <ompaul> !offtopic | recon
[08:55] <ubotu> recon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:55] <Creeture> So, since I don't care about stability or the bigger picture, will it work?
[08:55] <Instabin|Work> smarcfarl: apt-get remove
[08:56] <neopsyche> Its a nice to have... makes people feel safe :-)
[08:56] <smacfarl> gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[08:56] <Instabin|Work> or uncheck the packages in synaptic
[08:56] <riotkittie> if you want to update to the gutsy beta, please, please, pleaaaaaaase, know what youre doing and be prepared for breakage
[08:56] <neopsyche> are there NO viruses for ubuntu?
[08:56] <recon> ompaul: i know that. you don't really have to rub it in my face, you know. :-(
[08:56] <IndyGunFreak> hey, does anyone know how i would change the mount point for my Ipod?.. when it mounds, it says, "Kens IPOD" on the desktop, I'd rather it just said, 'IPOD"
[08:56] <X3N> it keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:56] <Desert_Storm> neop
[08:56] <riotkittie> and back your stuff up :|
[08:56] <way2cool> so its not recommended to get gutsy????
[08:56] <smacfarl> isn't 7.10 leaving beta 10/19?
[08:56] <Desert_Storm> Every system has viruses
[08:56] <dgjones> !virus | neopsyche
[08:56] <ubotu> neopsyche: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:56] <way2cool> do i stick with my awesome feisty?
[08:56] <Creeture> Jebus man...I don't care if it breaks. I just finished installing 6.10 server on it. That CD isn't even cool yet.
[08:56] <smacfarl> How much is really going to change in 2 weeks?
[08:56] <recon> neopsyche: there probably are, buy you aren't really in danger as long as you follow standard security procedures.
[08:57] <puma> when comes final 7.10?
[08:57] <Pici> smacfarl: #ubuntu+1, you know this.
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> smacfarl: well, if you were seeing the updates every morning, i'd say enought o matter.
[08:57] <way2cool> talk to me
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> puma: 18th i think
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> *think*
[08:57] <Desert_Storm> Realy, it would be a big search, if you would want to find a virus, for linux/ubuntu :D
[08:57] <smacfarl> Pici i was just there and no one answered any questions
[08:57] <X3N> my ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:57] <edugonch> Hello, is there a log file that I can see for remote desktop connection?
[08:57] <recon> neopsyche: by that, i mean "don't give out your password", "keep a good password", etc.
[08:57] <disasm> Creeture: yes and no, they're the same package tree as the server, so that won't do any damage, but if it is trying to upgrade say apache, Apache isn't on the install disks iirc.
[08:57] <Pici> smacfarl: be patient.
[08:57] <Instabin|Work> Smacfarl: i have been running gutsy since tribe 3 and I get about 40 updates a day
[08:57] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak whats the proper way to upgrade distro version from 4.07 to 4.10 ?? Is it from manager updater in X server, or downloading its ISO file???
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> 4.07?..
[08:58] <way2cool> feisty i mean
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> OR 7.04, to 7.10
[08:58] <way2cool> yea
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> you can run dist-upgrade i do believe.
[08:58] <way2cool> 7.04 to 7.10
[08:58] <bottiger> is there something like CTRL+z which doesn't suspend the app but just put it in the background
[08:58] <someone> my ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:58] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak really???
[08:58] <Creeture> disasm: Thanks. I'll have full apt-internet connectivity, so that shouldn't be a problem. I was just curious whether the desktop install will force, e.g. ubuntu-desktop onto my ubuntu-minimal system.
[08:58] <someone> it says that x.org is wrong or something, i dont really understand it
[08:58] <Instabin|Work> update-manager -d
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> way2cool: pretty sure, bt i'm not sure on the exact process... as i always do clean installs
[08:58] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak but i saw manager updater program running in my X it has somewhere to click and it says "Upgrade to 7.10 gutsy" Is that fine to click it???
[08:58] <Instabin|Work> sudo update-manager -d
[08:59] <Roge> anyone know the apt-get command to completly remove a package including config files and any other files it created etc
[08:59] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, whats that command for?
[08:59] <puma> trouble with p2p stream
[08:59] <IndyGunFreak> way2cool: i guess..  i don't see why not.
[08:59] <Creeture> Roge: aptitude purge package
[08:59] <Instabin|Work> update to 7.10
[08:59] <Roge> thx
[08:59] <disasm> Creeture: not if you do a dist-upgrade
[08:59] <Creeture> Roge: But that only removes what is controlled by the package. Any files created outside of that will be left.
[08:59] <Instabin|Work> way2cool update to 7.10 from 7.04
[08:59] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak clean installs? define that... do u mean downloading the ISo and installing new linux from scratch??? thats not clean for me, hence you gonna re-configure VGA and whole drivers, then get all the Packages, etc. isnt clean for e
[08:59] <way2cool> me
[09:00] <disasm> Creeture: it will ask anyways before it does it, do a sanity check before saying yes
[09:00] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, did u do it before?
[09:00] <neopsyche> linux immune system better than windows
[09:00] <Roge> ok thx
[09:00] <Pici> Roge: apt-get remove --purge package
[09:00] <Instabin|Work> Yes
[09:00] <Creeture> disasm: What about using do-release-upgrade? Any idea? FYI, I'll report my findings on this in about 10 minutes.
[09:00] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: ^
[09:00] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, what if i did that same exact command in the 18th this month, will it get the Beta or the final??
[09:00] <hendrixski> hello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?
[09:00] <someone> my ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[09:00] <mjb09> anyone ever use lvm with ubuntu?
[09:01] <someone> it says that x.org is wrong or something, i dont really understand it
[09:01] <riotkittie> if the final's been released, it will get the final
[09:01] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: depends on whats in the repo
[09:01] <disasm> Creeture: what's do-release-upgrade?
[09:01] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, so does that means each time i need to update something i need to edit the repo file and write something manualy in it? or is there a command to update my repo so it downloads final & latest versions of packages and everything???
[09:01] <Creeture> disasm: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-e471fe0c514bab31d4fac24a8a8fde382e8c7aaf
[09:02] <silviu> hey guys, i'm trying to give full read-write access to the filesystem to the current user, what's the command?
[09:02] <puma> my K-menu does't work after install 7.10 beta(AMD64 )
[09:02] <edugonch> A log file for the remote desktop, please....
[09:02] <Creeture> silviu: Whole filesystem? From / up you mean?
[09:02] <riotkittie> someone: is there an xorg upgrade available in the repos?
[09:02] <Pici> puma: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[09:02] <silviu> yes, to be able to write/delete files on the drive
[09:02] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: no  you have no need to edit the repo file to up date to gutsy
[09:03] <Creeture> silviu: Don't do that. Don't even consider it. Just add the users to sudoers using visudo
[09:03] <riotkittie> why would you want to write/delete outside of ~
[09:03] <someone> well i just reloaded synaptic, and nothing about an update
[09:03] <way2cool> Instabin|Work you didnt understand my question
[09:03] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: update-manager -d will take care of everything
[09:03] <mjb09> I have an lvm2 volume group on an external hdd that I need to mount one of the lv's under ubuntu [feisty]
[09:03] <someone> ive looked for xorg too, appears im using the only xorg entry in synaptic anyway
[09:03] <mjb09> havin' problems
[09:03] <Creeture> silviu: And that's not one of those "we don't recommend this" things. You'll break the system completely if you go messing with permissions.
[09:03] <samad93> saut
[09:03] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: gutsy wiil not have diff repos for beta and final they are the same repos the packages are just updated
[09:03] <Rictoo> Will the ICH9R southbridge work with PATA support on Ubuntu?
[09:03] <Rictoo> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186124
[09:04] <Creeture> silviu: If you want something read/write by a user, create another filesystem, say /export/users/username and chown user:group that directory.
[09:04] <hendrixski> hello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?
[09:04] <riotkittie> someone: i have no clue, sorry
[09:04] <bensode> Have CUPS working on 7.04 server and accepting print jobs from remote clients but how do I print locally from the server command line?
[09:04] <someone> i installed the ati driver with envy btw
[09:04] <someone> bloody thing this is driving me stupid
[09:04] <jhockin> Anyone know why when installing a fresh copy of the Fiesty DVD, xserver wont even start at the very beginning of the install?
[09:04] <silviu> no, i'm the only user to the system/pc, and i want to be able to play games (like ET)
[09:04] <neopsyche> how do i uninstall on ubuntu?
[09:04] <someone> every bloody timei manage to get 3d acc working it bloody reverts back to mesa!!! godamit!
[09:04] <neopsyche> from command line
[09:04] <neopsyche> for example
[09:04] <Creeture> siliviu: You can play games as a normal user.
[09:04] <neopsyche> i want to uninstall gftp
[09:05] <Creeture> silviu: You just do the install as root using sudo.
[09:05] <Pici> neopsyche: sudo apt-get remove gftp
[09:05] <mjb09> jhockin:  I've sometimes had to install with the alternate install cd, and then troubleshoot the video driver afterward
[09:05] <Instabin|Work> neopsyche: apt-get remove packagename
[09:05] <bensode> neopsyche : use sudo apt-get remote (package name to uninstall)
[09:05] <sulo> Hi, how do you change keymap in console in ubuntu 7.10?
[09:05] <bensode> neopsyche that's apt-get remove now remote
[09:05] <jhockin> does anyone have a handy link to the alternate?  I can only seem to find the normal dvd?
[09:05] <silviu> yes Creeture, i realised that's the way, but i hoped for a easy solution ;)
[09:05] <bensode> Can't type well today ... think my fingers are broken ...
[09:05] <Creeture> silviu: That *IS* the easy solution.
[09:05] <dgjones> !gutsy | sulo
[09:05] <ubotu> sulo: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:05] <mjb09> jhockin:  worse come to worse, you can ue the vesa driver until you get it sorted out
[09:05] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: you still here
[09:06] <hendrixski> hello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?
[09:06] <silviu> thanks for your answers
[09:06] <riotkittie> sulo:  temporary fix is ... sude loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/<tab tab tab to complete and select>
[09:06] <hendrixski> I can't seem to do it with Kino
[09:06] <mjb09> jhockin: http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[09:07] <hendrixski> is there something else that will edit videos and their audio tracks, or will Kino do it as well just in some hidden option?
[09:07] <TLF> hi all
[09:07] <RUUN|Stalker> hi
[09:07] <jhockin> thanks so much mjb09
[09:07] <TLF> does ubuntu have a net install CD?
[09:07] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[09:07] <dgjones> !install | TLF
[09:07] <ubotu> TLF: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:07] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[09:09] <Creeture> TLF: The one you're looking for in particular is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[09:09] <Textbook> anybody in here have a Toshiba Satellite they're running Ubuntu on?  got a problem with sound (headphones don't work)
[09:09] <Beefheart> join #ubuntu
[09:09] <Textbook> heh
[09:09] <TLF> thanks dgjones and Creeture :)
[09:10] <Beefheart> Anyone able to tell me how i find out where wine installed my Anarchy online please?
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Beef
[09:10] <Beefheart> or how to access it
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Ah
[09:10] <mjb09> Beef:  Not in ~/.wine  ??
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Yeah
[09:10] <Beefheart> im a neeb: )
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Should be something in wine directory
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Beef
[09:10] <Beefheart> noob*
[09:10] <jhockin> mjb09: one more question, if i have the 7.04 dvd can i just use the text install option on that indstead of the alternate cd?
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> We were all noobs, at some point ;)
[09:10] <Beefheart> what is the wine dir ?
[09:11] <anthony> jhockin: yes
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> Where you installed it, lol
[09:11] <mjb09> jhockin:  I never did, but you can try
[09:11] <Beefheart> i just got my ubuntu running smooth on my laptop. i feel really good hehe
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> Well
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> This is my first day with Ubuntu aswell
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> But i've had suse, and Xubuntu before
[09:11] <idefix> why is the sources.list file read-only?
[09:11] <Beefheart> I need to know where to look for my ao installation
[09:11] <mjb09> jhockin:  alot of times my machines at work only have CDRom drive anyway, so I burn the CD
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> idefix: you need to be root to edit it. Use sudo/gksu/kdesu
[09:11] <Beefheart> because i ant to wine the exe file
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> !sudo
[09:11] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:12] <jhockin> great, thanks again
[09:12] <mjb09> <--- need to get old ssh host keys off an LVM and can't mouont the damn VG .  Anyone handy with LVM ?
[09:13] <Beefheart> I dont know where i installed wine. (default i guess) i know my AO was installed to C:\programfiles\Ao but how do i access the place called C: in linux?
[09:13] <mjb09> Beef: cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:13] <Creeture> mbj09: I have a hammer.   This HD is from an old FC4 box I was running xen on
[09:13] <Desert_Storm> Yay
[09:13] <Desert_Storm> I got Beryl working
[09:14] <remi____> hi all
[09:14] <mjb09> Instead of LVM, they should have called it PITA
[09:14] <remi____> pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear.   Open a terminal. and type the command
[09:16] <mjb09> cd .wine
[09:16] <mjb09> then type
[09:16] <mjb09> ls
[09:16] <Beefheart> I cant find my install of AO, which i know is installed somwhere. and i dont know where to look
[09:17] <Beefheart> no file or directory
[09:17] <mjb09> then run updatedb, and then locate ".wine"
[09:17] <Desert_Storm> Hey
[09:17] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get install beryl-mawget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:17] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get install beryl-mawget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:18] <mjb09> or
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get install beryl-mawget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:18] <Creeture> Beefheart: Should be in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/AO
[09:18] <mjb09> find / -name ".wine" -type d
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> ups
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> sorry
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> I putted that to my terminal
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> Now, i dont know, where it installed
[09:19] <Beefheart> find / -name ".wine" -type d
[09:19] <Beefheart> mt
[09:19] <Desert_Storm> Any tips, on finding, where i installed Beryl?
[09:19] <Beefheart> ok now i found it
[09:20] <Beefheart> what next?
[09:20] <mjb09> then cd into that dir, and do another find
[09:20] <mjb09> like
[09:20] <mjb09> find . -iname "*part of filename*"
[09:20] <Beefheart> Thanks allot mate. you've been more than helpfull. thanks
[09:21] <mjb09> Beef: no prob
[09:21] <mjb09> good luck
[09:21] <sulo> Hi, how do I change keymap in gdm?
[09:21] <karoshi> stop saying beef! >_<
[09:21] <Beefheart> beefcake
[09:21] <mjb09> eccy eccy ptang zootbang... Ni!
[09:21] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[09:21] <mjb09> how is that
[09:21] <karoshi> sulo, system>pre>keyboard
[09:21] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[09:21] <dgm> This should be a dumb question, but I can't find anything with google.   Where do I find a list of errata and updates to 7.04 ?
[09:22] <sulo> karoshi thanks
[09:22] <ramon> hi, what package do I install to get info documentation for system programs like mkfifo?
[09:22] <sky1> what is newstr doing in this code ?  vector<std::string> k; string newstr=""; newstr.push_back((char)c); k.push_back(newstr);
[09:22] <Beefheart> are there a way to make a normal shortcut on my desktop to run an wine app ?
[09:22] <sulo> karoshi does that affect gdm as well?
[09:23] <karoshi> i think so sulo
[09:23] <karoshi> id imagine it affects everything
[09:23] <sulo> karoshi: no, it doesn't affect gdm :(
[09:23] <sulo> karoshi: I have dvorak in gdm :s
[09:23] <ramon> Beefheart: i think putting 'wine /path/to/exe' in the Command field should work
[09:23] <karoshi> but your doing it *in* gdm, how can it not/?
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi well.. I'm doing it in gnome
[09:24] <Beefheart> thanka ramon
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi gdm and the windowmanager are separate
[09:24] <mjb09> what, is nobody masochistic enough to know lvm?  I used to know it under Fedora, but I'm having odd problems under *buntu.
[09:24] <mjb09> ramon is right
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi in many ways
[09:24] <karoshi> then i dunno how
[09:24] <Woet> Hello, my chess 3D is bugged. It works (After a lot of messing around), but i have lines threw my screen
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi: ok. thanks anyways
[09:25] <karoshi> no prob
[09:25] <lloyd> any solutions to play text bassed rpg games in ubuntu
[09:25] <Woet> err
[09:25] <Woet> er
[09:25] <sulo> lloyd install and play?
[09:25] <Woet> firefox lloyd?
[09:25] <ddonky> how do i install Real codecs so totem can play .rm files?
[09:25] <lloyd> i ment something to join all sorts of text bassed rpg's
[09:26] <sulo> lloyd like a mud-client?
[09:26] <lloyd> yes thats it
[09:26] <lloyd> sorry that im so unclear its late :p
[09:26] <disasm> lloyd: telnet?
[09:26] <sulo> lloyd try mush, I've heard it's popular
[09:26] <disasm> that's what I always used at least ;-)
[09:27] <sulo> lloyd If you google something like "mud clients linux" I think there's someone maintaining a list
[09:27] <lloyd> ty :p
[09:27] <sulo> np
[09:27] <sulo> lloyd no, no irony, I mean there's some site with some guy/gal maintaining a list of rated clients
[09:28] <Beefheart> Anyone know how I get a list over programs to kill ?
[09:28] <jport> ps -ae
[09:28] <disasm> Beefheart: ps aux
[09:29] <lloyd> sulo i know :p this :p isn't irony
[09:29] <ramon> Beefheart: System->Administration->System Monitor for a GUI
[09:29] <Beefheart> ty
[09:29] <Desert_Storm> Whoa
[09:29] <lloyd> KildClient :p
[09:29] <Desert_Storm> Beryl looks cool :D
[09:29] <gregzx> beryl is for kids! :x
[09:30] <lloyd> ye :s
[09:30] <disasm> gregzx: my comment exactly ;-)
[09:30] <disasm> gregzx: fluxbox is where it's at for productivity or some other light weight wm
[09:31] <gregzx> yep ;]
[09:32] <Textbook> does anybody have a Toshiba Satellite laptop? I'm having audio problems, headphones don't work
[09:32] <gcj> hi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any idea?
[09:33] <ramon> does no one know how to install the info pages for the gnu tools?
[09:33] <gregzx> Textbook: i got a satellite pro u200 and my headphones work fine!
[09:33] <cosmodad> Textbook: did you enable the jack in thr mixer?
[09:33] <SeeBee> Right.
[09:33] <Textbook> how do you do that?
[09:33] <SeeBee> I need some help. =P
[09:33] <zxcv_> is possible to use the nvidia and fglrx driver at the same time?
[09:33] <nilton> how can i add custom rules to be applied after an interface gets up?
[09:33] <SeeBee> Just got Ubuntu 7.04, burned the ISO on a CD, installed it, perfect. Everything's done fine.
[09:33] <SeeBee> And now when I start up my system, uhhh... how do I boot into Linux? It just gives me two options, boot into Windows XP or into a non-existant Windows Vista.
[09:34] <cosmodad> Textbook: check the speaker symbol in the corner of your desktop
[09:34] <nilton> routing rules, i mean
[09:34] <SeeBee> Non-existant in the sense that it was installed, and then I just formatted the drive it was installed on. So the boot manager when it opens up, shows the Vista like menu in which there's XP.
[09:34] <mjb09> <--- found the problem with my lvm.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/106696
[09:34] <gcj> nilton, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:34] <mjb09> Bascially a module did not autoload
[09:34] <nilton> gcj: is there a syntax, it's a shell script?
[09:34] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: i do a Toshiba Satellite A205-S4797, i had the same audio problem, look here for help about audio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:34] <SlimeyPete> SeeBee: sounds like grb needs configuring. If you boot the alternate CD you can tell it to boot from the linux partition on the disk, so that you can fix gru
[09:34] <SlimeyPete> !grub
[09:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:34] <Textbook> thanks guys
[09:35] <gcj> nilton, man interfaces
[09:35] <SeeBee> I tried doing that, I edited the GRUB parameters and made it hd(1,1)
[09:35] <SeeBee> Second partition on the second disk.
[09:35] <brianski> what's a good pcmcia wifi card that will work solidly in ubuntu?
[09:35] <neopsyche> how do i get root?
[09:35] <Textbook> see, I already installed the latest alsa drivers , libs, and utils, but I don't see any option in the mixer to enable the jack
[09:35] <Cyber_Stalker> how would i run "index.jad.jnlp" on ubuntu... its a java file
[09:35] <neopsyche> su?
[09:35] <neopsyche> su doesnt work.
[09:35] <SeeBee> Still doesn't work, throw's up Vista and XP as options.
[09:35] <SeeBee> No Ubuntu in the boot list. =/
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> SeeBee: I'd go back and check your syntax then
[09:35] <SeeBee> hd(1,1)
[09:35] <neopsyche> what do i type to get root access.?
[09:35] <SeeBee> or hd (1,1)
[09:35] <SeeBee> Should there be a spacE?
[09:36] <preaction> !root | neopsyche
[09:36] <ubotu> neopsyche: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:36] <SlimeyPete> (hd1,1) I think
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> lol, no way im regreting, switching to Ubuntu :D
[09:36] <SlimeyPete> but I don't have a config file to hand
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> But, can anyone help me? I downloaded, a .bin, package
[09:36] <gcj> hi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any ideas?
[09:36] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: i fixed my audio problem installing the latest alsa driver, lib and utils, not the latest stable version but the dev versions then adding in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base this line: options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> How can i install it?
[09:36] <SeeBee> That's the only way to do it then?
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> If anyone knows, can he PM me
[09:36] <Textbook> thanks LinuxJuggalo, and you can use headphones?
[09:36] <gcj> Desert_Storm, .bin is not a package format that i know of
[09:36] <amadeux> what's with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/110636
[09:37] <amadeux> Is it still around?
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Well
[09:37] <amadeux> isn't it pretty severe?
[09:37] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: .bin as a CD-ROM container format?
[09:37] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook when you do all steps in that link i gave you, reboot the laptop and everything should work fine
[09:37] <BLOBO> anyone can help me ? :P http://pastebin.com/m3e6c2a1b installed latest nvida drivers works fine but enemy territory dont wanna work i am using 64bit kubuntu :&
[09:37] <Textbook> because audio works fine, except my headphone jack
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Well, think so
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Wait
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> I have a .RPM, file too
[09:37] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook, yes, i also use external speakers connected thru the headphone jack
[09:37] <gcj> Desert_Storm, you can try that one with alien, but be prepared it might break things
[09:37] <SeeBee> (hd 1,1) you think is the way to do it huh?
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Alien?
[09:37] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: what does `file <bin file>' say?
[09:37] <sagar> i have a hard disk which used to be fat32, but then later i formatted it as ext3, and now i've repartitioned it and want to install ubuntu on it as reiserfs...but in the ubuntu installer, it shows up as still having a single fat32 partition!! how can i fix this and get the partition editor to see its partitions?
[09:38] <freak124> does anyone now how it's possible that on the live cd my partitions are visible in nautilus and they are not in the partition manager that's included in the installation? The previous times I installed ubuntu this all worked perfectly
[09:38] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: what software is this?
[09:38] <iyntx> pomogite
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> Java
[09:38] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: why don't you use the official rep?
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> jdk-6u2-linux-i586.java
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> Where can i get it?
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> Synaptic
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> ?
[09:38] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[09:38] <mzuverink> I am using gnome and would like to use Kontact because of its superior traits over evolution.  However contact is ugly in gnome.  is there something that helps smooth out that uglyness?
[09:38] <cosmodad> !java | Desert_Storm
[09:38] <ubotu> Desert_Storm: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:38] <gcj> Desert_Storm, chmod a+x on it, then run it
[09:39] <peter_> anyone know of a program that i use to forward my hotmail to my gmail....or thunderbird?
[09:39] <neopsyche> is it important to have a firewall on local machine?
[09:39] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: use the Ubuntu packages unless you have a good reason to use the .bin package
[09:39] <Desert_Storm> Ah
[09:39] <Desert_Storm> Okay
[09:39] <Desert_Storm> Thank you
[09:39] <cosmodad> neopsyche: depends on your network environment
[09:40] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: thanks, will reboot in a little bit, try it out
[09:40] <cosmodad> neopsyche: if you're protected by another firewall anyway, I wouldn't consider it necessary
[09:40] <cosmodad> neopsyche: on the other hand, if this is a laptop and you frequently swtich networks, it might be a good idea
[09:40] <peter_> does anyone use gotmail?
[09:40] <gcj> hi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any ideas?
[09:40] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook no problem, if that does not solve your problem feel free to come back :)
[09:41] <Desert_Storm> Thank you all, for helping
[09:41] <Mr_Awesome> hi, im having trouble setting up my printer. im following these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=lexmark+howto. when i get to the part where it says to mount the usb filesystem and edit the /etc/fstab file, i have no idea what to actually do. could someone please help me out?
[09:41] <neopsyche> im behind a router... but not sure ... router not configured amazingly... the router is behind another network.. i just want to be able to know if there is some whacky program trying to access the internet without me knowing.. i only recently installed ubuntu.. so still windows paranoid
[09:41] <Desert_Storm> Im gonna go now, bye
[09:41] <cosmodad> neopsyche: are you behind a NAT
[09:41] <cosmodad> neopsyche: ?
[09:41] <SeeBee> And oh, just one more question.
[09:42] <SeeBee> (hd1,0) is the correct syntax?
[09:42] <SeeBee> Or is it (hd 1,0)
[09:42] <zxcv_> is possible to use the nvidia and fglrx driver at the same time?
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Mr_Awesome:  from terminal gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:42] <iyntx> i use update ubuntu from 7.04 to 7.10 and my X not started after reboot. Help me:'(. X system report error "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! " but my nvidia drivers has bin installed (gf6500 | i use nvidia-glx(not legacy and nvidia-new))
[09:42] <BLOBO> anyone can help me ? :P http://pastebin.com/m3e6c2a1b installed latest nvida drivers works fine but enemy territory dont wanna work i am using 64bit kubuntu :&
[09:42] <SeeBee> And (hd1,1) is the first partition in the second disk drive right?
[09:43] <FastPutty> is there a way i see all data hex and snifff packets info that go trough eth0 with tcpdump?
[09:43] <Mr_Awesome> Jack_Sparrow: ah, i see. thanks a lot
[09:43] <cliang> run sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> SeeBee: second partition..
[09:43] <gcj> FastPutty, tcpdump -s 0 -X
[09:43] <[Ramy] > i have a prb with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz , i got this wrror message : Could not download all repository indexes
[09:43] <[Ramy] > The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[09:43] <[Ramy] > error*
[09:43] <iyntx> in version 7.04 i'm use envy for install driver nvidia
[09:43] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[09:44] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:44] <dgjones> !gutsy | iyntx
[09:44] <ubotu> iyntx: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:44] <LinuxJuggalo> FastPutty: you can install a network sniffer like etherape
[09:44] <LinuxJuggalo> !hardy heron
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy heron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> iyntx: your entire problem is that you used the envy script...
[09:44] <LinuxJuggalo> !hardy
[09:44] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[09:45] <`Matir> What is the best way to mount drives from another linux computer?  I've looked at NFS, CIFS, and SSHFS... NFS seems complex and seems to have security issues... CIFS seems windows-oriented, and SSHFS seems like a bit of a hack... what do you all think?
[09:45] <bill__> yes.
[09:45] <iyntx> :(
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[09:45] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:45] <dgjones> Matir, I use NFS, it seemed the simplest method & has worked brilliantly
[09:45] <LinuxJuggalo> i wont install 7.10, ill wait for hardy i like LTS releases
[09:46] <`Matir> dgjones, do you run it on the standard ports?
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> LinuxJuggalo: YOu can do what I do.. I have two different ubuntu's on same machine..
[09:46] <iyntx>  < ubotu> iyntx: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of
[09:46] <linux4me> how do i add kernel support for ipvs? i'm running ubuntu fiesty. i ran "sudo apt-get install ipvsadm and it says the kernel does not support IPVS
[09:46] <bill__> run openvz
[09:46] <dgjones> Matir, yes, just straight installation, connecting by ip address (my router gives a fixed ip to each machine)
[09:47] <phatfish> The current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?
[09:47] <iyntx> thnx for info :(
[09:47] <LinuxJuggalo> Jack_Sparrow im fine just with 7.04 for now :)
[09:47] <puma> how to join gtsuy?
[09:47] <peter_>  anyone uses gotmail?
[09:47] <Enselic> puma: "join gutsy"?
[09:47] <puma> yes
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> slashj #Ubuntu+1
[09:48] <IdahoEv_> help, I cannot get apache2 to run.  I installed with "apt-get install apache2", and apt claims that it is installed and up-to-date.   conf files look good.   But /etc/init.d/apache2 start  (or restart) does not produce any output and apache does not show up under ps waux | grep apache
[09:48] <Enselic> puma: maybe the answer is: type /j #ubuntu+1  in your irc client
[09:48] <peter_> puma do u use gotmail?
[09:48] <Enselic> Jack_Sparrow: // gives /
[09:48] <neopsyche> Is there no ftp client that has gui that can cut / paste
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[09:48] <Enselic> / <- like that
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> /
[09:48] <Enselic> neopsyche: Nautilus
[09:49] <LinuxJuggalo> neopsyche: gftp and filezilla
[09:49] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: no go :(
[09:49] <remi____> Desert_Storm, do you have virtual desktops working correctly with beryl ?
[09:49] <remi____> pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?
[09:49] <Enselic> neopsyche: just use the normal file namanger
[09:49] <Textbook> < = sound guy
[09:49] <Enselic> neopsyche: Places -> Connect to server    and choose FTP
[09:50] <izm99> in launchpad, how should I suggest a bug be closed?  I reported it, but I don't see the option anywhere...
[09:50] <overclucker>  // = escape char
[09:50] <remi____> beryl on ubuntu sux.
[09:50] <Absolute0> for some reason everything i try to install is unathenticated, is there a way to fix this?
[09:50] <PKdoR> is there a wine IRC?
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> winehq
[09:50] <overclucker> oks
[09:50] <overclucker> oops
[09:50] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: what does it say when you type: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[09:51] <overclucker> \
[09:52] <amadeux> isn't this bug pretty severe? bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/110636
[09:52] <Discerer> when doing sudo apt-get install proftd on a fresh install of feisty, I get this:
[09:52] <Discerer> ProFTPd warning: cannot start in neither standalone nor inetd/xinetd.
[09:52] <Discerer> ideas?
[09:52] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: Codec: Realtek ALC861-VD
[09:52] <Textbook> Codec: Generic 11c1 Si3054
[09:52] <Enselic> Discerer: read the README and INSTALL files in /usr/share/docs/proftp or similar
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Discerer: which repo is that comming from?
[09:53] <Enselic> Discerer: look for instalation notes
[09:53] <PKdoR> im wondering if its better to use wine with the original windows libaries or not?
[09:53] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, it's obvious it is a post install script that is running the daemon, and that is an error coming from the daemon not apt
[09:53] <Discerer> Jack_Sparrow ? it's all default
[09:53] <proog> GRUB is very slow at starting if I have a USB flash disk plugged in while booting. Why is this?
[09:53] <Discerer> yes bruenig
[09:53] <Enselic> PKdoR: how do you mean?
[09:53] <IdahoEv_> please help: apache2 does not start when I run "/etc/init.d/apache2 start".   What should I look for?
[09:53] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: play around with it, there are a few things you can do like in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base set options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Afternoon bruenig...
[09:54] <Enselic> IdahoEv_: the logs in /var/logs/apache2
[09:54] <gnuskool> do you guys reckon ubuntu will ever catch mac n vista in looks?
[09:54] <LinuxJuggalo> or options snd-hda-intel model=genric or generic
[09:54] <bruenig> !ot | gnuskool
[09:54] <ubotu> gnuskool: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <Discerer> that was what happened when I tried to launch proftpd (or rather, it tried to launch itself) after the apt-get thing was done
[09:54] <Enselic> gnuskool: of course, it's only a matter of time, not competence
[09:54] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: thanks a lot
[09:54] <bruenig> Discerer, so troubleshoot the program, saying it happens when you use apt is misleading
[09:54] <IdahoEv_> Enselic: all files in  in /var/logs/apache2 are empty, no messages
[09:54] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: no problem :)
[09:54] <PKdoR> Enselic: i was reading the wine facts and it says something about using the original ms DLL intead of the winehq probided API
[09:55] <gnuskool> Enselic: i duuno, ey, the basic stuff like fonts, themes n that are a major challenge for linux
[09:55] <Enselic> IdahoEv_: look where apache puts it log files then
[09:55] <Textbook> see, I did do a little homework myself, because I had already upgraded to the latest dev releases of alsa drivers/lib/utils , and the internal speakers are actually working a lot better than they were before
[09:55] <Enselic> PKdoR: I see, well that's better to ask at #winehq then
[09:55] <Discerer> it just confuses me that ubuntuguide.org says that sudo apt-get install proftpd is all you need to do... it doesn't hint that anything else needs to be done to make it actually work
[09:56] <Enselic> gnuskool: in what way is it a major challenge
[09:56] <IdahoEv_> Enselic: that is where it puts the logs.    At first when I resized a window it was "animated". Now after an update its just a blue rectangle and no animation.
[09:57] <PKdoR> Enselic: ty i already did and am just waiting to get someones attention at that channel
[09:57] <gnuskool> is it lack of 'artsy' types in open-source?
[09:57] <proog> gnuskool: you do know that GNOME is skinnable, right?
[09:57] <bruenig> proog, Enselic, seriously don't bite
[09:57] <__mikem> gnuskool, they are out there
[09:57] <svisor> Tried to reset the visual effect to "Extra" and did not get it back. How do I get it back?
[09:58] <Enselic> gnuskool: download any distro 5 years old and everything looks far worse the currently. in another 5 years, things will look even better. have patience
[09:58] <bruenig> !troll | gnuskool
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <bruenig> guy comes in and says when will linux catch up with mac or windows in his first statement and the idiots answer
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys ... please take it to off topic... Enselic   gnuskool
[09:59] <Enselic> it's ok, I'm done ayway :) cheers
[09:59] <IdahoEv_> no output from "dpkg-reconfigure apache2", no change and still no output from "/ect/init.d/apache2 start"
[09:59] <gnuskool> proog: yeah,i skin my xfce desktop to the max, but i see forums filled with noobies who cant manually install icons, themes, etc,
[09:59] <IdahoEv_> this is very odd
[09:59] <gnuskool> bruenig: i aint trolling, those a re honest concerns
[09:59] <svisor> MOT: OpenOffice weblinks does no longer work as you click on em. Now you have to right click and choose to open em.    It says it only removed and then reinstalled 86Kb of files, which seems very small for apache2...
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gnuskool: If they cant drop a tar file from gmome-look.org onto the theme manager I worry for all society
[10:01] <NMajik> Is there a file that contains a list of installed packages?
[10:01] <bruenig> NMajik, dpkg --get-selections
[10:01] <LjL> NMajik: you can create one by typing " dpkg --get-selections > filename "
[10:01] <puma> ?join ubuntu 1?
[10:01] <defrysk>  /j #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <NMajik> bruenig & LjL : Thanks
[10:02] <puma>  /j #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <puma> no action
[10:02] <LjL> puma: ... without the leading spaces
[10:03] <IdahoEv_> "apache2ctl start" gives an error:  "(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80"
[10:03] <defrysk> :s
[10:03] <IdahoEv_> and also "unable to open logs"
[10:05] <gnuskool> ! off topic
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Scunizi> IdahoEv_, you might ask some of this in #ubuntu-server
[10:05] <gnuskool> !off-topic
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <gnuskool> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <overclucker> nospace
[10:06] <justin420> hi there everybody, can anyone tell me what package i have to sudo apt-get remove--purge to get rid of mysqld_safe?
[10:06] <overclucker> > !offtopic
[10:07] <genii> mysql-server
[10:07] <justin420> genii: looking at synaptic its not installed?
[10:07] <Nalleman> Does anyone have any tips for any good program for editing .mov files?
[10:08] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on systemcontrol too what is happening here???
[10:08] <e\ectro_> is there a way to apt-mirror both i386 / x86_64 to the same box?
[10:08] <genii> justin420: Well, thats the package
[10:09] <ubuntu_> Everytime I launch windows(xp) it automatically sets that partition to 'boot'-flag, and i have to manually boot with live-cd and set the ubuntu one to boot. How can I come around this_
[10:09] <timstokman> hi, is there any way to make that, when i am using wifi wpa enterprise, the inner authentication protocol for TTLS is PAP? I can't see anything in the dialog that pops up when connecting to my network. And how can I set per-network preferences for my wifi card?
[10:09] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on systemcontrol too what is happening here???
[10:10] <justin420> genii: any other ideas then? should i just kill the process and hope it doesnt restart next time or what? i have tried installing mythtv  recently if that helps at all. i have sudo apt-get remove --purge EVERYTHING that was installed when I did install mythtv
[10:10] <wolferine> Morgane, 'ps -A  | grep kopete'
[10:10] <overclucker> Morgane: is there n icon for it on top gnome pannel?
[10:10] <line72> is there a way to get evolution to pop-up reminders like it used to instead of using the notification area?
[10:11] <genii> justin420: mythtv likely installed something as backend for storage which pulled in the mysql daemon
[10:11] <Morgane> no overlucker that is what is so strange
[10:12] <Morgane> overlucker well an icon to execute the program yes
[10:12] <wolferine> Morgane, your aware of shell/terminal commands, coredct ?
[10:12] <wolferine> correct*
[10:12] <Morgane> wolferine not really am a beginner
[10:13] <bieb> justin420, did you like ubuntu as a mythtv os?
[10:13] <genii> justin420: perhaps try the --purge on packages mythtv-backend and mythtv-database
[10:13] <justin420> genii: here is a list of everything i did, to get rid of mythtv and all other dependencies.
[10:13] <justin420> http://pastebin.ca/723453
[10:14] <tdizzy> !GRUB
[10:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:14] <Morgane> not possible to kill the process :(
[10:14] <justin420> bieb: it looked like it would be really cool; but i couldnt get any of my settings to save; so i couldnt add my tv tuner card that was detected just fine.
[10:14] <ipx> Everytime I launch windows(xp) it automatically sets that partition to 'boot'-flag, and i have to manually boot with live-cd and set the ubuntu one to boot. How can I come around this?
[10:14] <{[rediz] }> SCROFT: r u livin in c-croft westyorks?
[10:15] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:15] <justin420> bieb: if i get a newer pc; i think i just may install knopmyth distro on this pc, to check that out. i heard that is an awesome distro just for myth
[10:15] <exact> hello
[10:16] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on
[10:16] <bieb> I am getting ready to build a PC to use for Myth, so just trying to hear others experiences
[10:16] <exact> how can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time?
[10:16] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and cannot kill the process
[10:16] <KidProQuo>  /join #ubuntu-art
[10:17] <riotkittie> Morgane: kill it with -9 ?
[10:17] <riotkittie>  or killall?
[10:17] <tdizzy> can anyone offer me any help?
[10:17] <Morgane> riotkittie how i do that?
[10:18] <bewst> suspend to ram not working for me; I've exhausted online clues I could find.  Anyone care to assist?
[10:18] <hal14450_> Morgane, kill -9 <pid> or killall <process name>
[10:18] <Morgane> ok thanks hal14450
[10:18] <sharperguy> anyone know of a good app for composing music scores?
[10:18] <genii> tdizzy: You need to change ownership of that file to the user which that directory belongs. Then after to change the permissions on it to 644
[10:18] <tdizzy> i did that...
[10:18] <jimmygoon> This isn't _exactly_ ubuntu based but can anyone recommend a decent Live disc to wipe a hard drive off?
[10:19] <bieb> knoppix or use ubuntu live
[10:19] <genii> tdizzy: Then delete it. It will be recreated next time X runs
[10:19] <garette> !pidgin
[10:19] <riotkittie> slax. deb based live CDs make me want to cry
[10:19] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[10:19] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:20] <Puenktchen> hallo
[10:20] <riotkittie> forced by AOL's legal dept.  oh my gaaaawd.
[10:20] <bieb> jimmygoon.. use knoppix or ubuntu live
[10:20] <overclucker> harro
[10:20] <e\ectro_> is there a way to apt-mirror both i386 / x86_64 to the same box?
[10:20] <MoNsTeR> riotkittie, lol
[10:21] <exact> jimmygoon: use /dev/urandom ro overwrite your data several times, else you can use 'wipe' to delete compromising files, (i'd recommand using dd to copy /dev/urandom several times on the partition you wish to erase, though)
[10:21] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:21] <bieb> Jimmy.. you can also use shred
[10:22] <exact> bieb: arent shred and wipe from the same package?
[10:22] <bieb> ummm.. good question.. I havent used wipe before, but have used shred
[10:22] <tdizzy> !kde
[10:22] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[10:23] <all_over> /server irc.vetorialnet.com.br
[10:23] <exact> bieb: nope, you're right, they're different packages
[10:23] <tdizzy> !xcfe
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcfe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <tdizzy> oops
[10:23] <tdizzy> lol
[10:23] <tdizzy> !xfce
[10:23] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[10:23] <exact> how can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time?
[10:24] <exact> feisty 7.04 btw
[10:24] <bieb> exact, I think shred is still the package the feds claim does the best job of clearing a drive so no trace of forensic data
[10:24] <all_over> /server irc.brasnet.org
[10:24] <riotkittie> i dont think the settings mix up. the apps just overlap in the menu
[10:24] <john_doe> If I install 7.10 now, will I then have to reinstall when it's released as stable?
[10:24] <Amaranth> john_doe: nope
[10:25] <MoNsTeR> tdizzy, how do i get support for kubuntu
[10:25] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR: there's a #kubuntu
[10:25] <john_doe> Amaranth: I'll just apt-get upgrade?
[10:25] <MoNsTeR> riotkittie, ight thanks man
[10:25] <__mikem> Amaranth, why does it say that bantracker has been shut down to anonymous users due to server load?
[10:25] <exact> bieb: i don't know who said what, but i'm quite sure that if you overwrite a file over 300 times with random data, someone who'd like to look at what was there will have a damn good time ;)
[10:25] <Amaranth> john_doe: yeah
[10:25] <Amaranth> __mikem: *shrug*
[10:25] <tdizzy> genii: when i delete the file, it gives the same error when i boot
[10:26] <john_doe> Amaranth: great thanks!
[10:26] <yrlnry__> How do I change the meaning of an entry in the Applications>Programming menu?
[10:26] <Auckla> Hi.
[10:27] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:27] <KDEusr> can someone tell me how i can ignore a broken package with synaptic?
[10:27] <Vlet> So, I'm having a problem on 7.04 where whenever I paste anything, all that gets pasted is a bunch of junk (looks like opening unicode text with a non-unicode app)... any thoughts why?
[10:28] <bieb> By default shred overwrites a file 25 times with random data
[10:28] <justin420> yrlnry__: right click on the applications places system menu: click on edit menus. find your app (i.e applications>programming>program i am looking for) double click on it, then tweak it the way you want it
[10:28] <boubbin> is it possible to install all available and supported *-dev packages ?
[10:28] <riotkittie> it should rewrite it with a bunch of the nigerian scam emails :D
[10:28] <kesha> ..
[10:28] <KDEusr> i've gotta have this package installed but every time i load synaptic it complains that the package is broken
[10:28] <boubbin> with one command ofc :P
[10:28] <yrlnry__> justin420: thanks.
[10:28] <__mikem> sudo apt-get install *dev*
[10:29] <__mikem> ?
[10:29] <justin420> yrlnry__: yeah dude no problem! :)
[10:29] <genii> tdizzy: Are you using sudo with the commands to rm or chmod or chown ?
[10:29] <bieb> exact... here is the final answer for getting rid of data... For the extremely paranoid, however, no command works better than concentrated sulphuric acid. LOL
[10:29] <KDEusr> can i get a hand?
[10:29] <KDEusr> anyone?
[10:29] <exact> heh, funnily enough my random kde wallpaper is now set to guybrush threepwood (MI) holding a two headed squirrel (ZMK) in front of the purple tentacle (MM)... for all the lucas fan here, i can send a copy somewhere....
[10:29] <exact> bieb: lol ;)
[10:29] <bieb> KDE... just use apt-get install and see if that works
[10:30] <KDEusr> see if that works for what?
[10:30] <tdizzy> genii: yeah i used to sudo to remove the file
[10:30] <SpiderPig> i have a router in order so many computers can share the internet connection. is there a way for me to monitor the traffic over the router? app name please
[10:30] <KDEusr> im not sure i understand what you are trying to get me to do
[10:30] <tdizzy> genii: i used sudo**
[10:30] <david003> hello. i have an ".ace" file, how do i extract the contents?
[10:30] <exact> bieb: http://driveslag.eecue.com/
[10:30] <bieb> KDE... see if that will install the package
[10:30] <KDEusr> what i am trying to do, ignore a broken package with synaptic. i did it before, i just cant find how to do it on google
[10:30] <bruenig> !info unace
[10:30] <bill__> SpiderPig, mrtg, ntop ...
[10:31] <SpiderPig> bill thanks
[10:31] <ubotu> unace: extract, test and view .ace archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-4 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:31] <overlord> I have a 4.1 surround sound channel.  My front speakers are working, but my rear speakers aren't. Any idea?
[10:31] <genii> tdizzy: OK. is the /home/<name>   directory the .dmrc is in correspond to the <name> which you are logging in as?
[10:31] <tdizzy> yeah
[10:32] <bieb> exact.. that is cool
[10:32] <Absorto> hello! I have an hp pavillion dv2~ laptop which has an additional video port. I'd like to see my display on a projector. How can I do this?
[10:32] <Absorto> I tried Fn+F4, but that doesn't work. I tried changing the resolution too. No luck.
[10:32] <exact> bieb: i'm not sure if "cool" is the best term to describe it, but i'm quite sure you can say your data "bye bye" ;-)
[10:32] <genii> tdizzy: Did you recently copy this dir back in from someplace else without using -p switch in the cp command?
[10:33] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:33] <tdizzy> no
[10:34] <exact> how can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time? (feisty)
[10:34] <david003> bruenig: can you be more specific? i install unace, then what?
[10:34] <genii> tdizzy: Have you been starting the machine with the Recovery kernel then trying to start the X server?
[10:34] <bjwebb> can anyone expalin this http://pastebin.ca/723482
[10:34] <overlord> I have a 4.1 surround sound channel.  My front speakers are working, but my rear speakers aren't. Any idea?
[10:34] <tdizzy> no i didnt
[10:34] <Absorto> exact: look at scripts that start with S in /etc/rc2.d
[10:34] <bruenig> david003, man unace
[10:34] <Absorto> exact: those are started automatically. They are simbollyc links to scripts in /etc/init.d/
[10:35] <exact> Absorto: ok, that's it... thanks a lot :) i was looking in rc5 and rc3...
[10:35] <CommonClone> I tried to use this script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 to install ndiswrapper on 7.04 and now my computer won't get past the configuring networks stage of reboot...any ideas?
[10:36] <Absorto> exact: i'm not sure how it works now. There used to be a file /etc/inittab
[10:36] <Absorto> exact: that file had a line that configured the default runlevel. It isn't there anymore, I dunno why.
[10:36] <Absorto> exact: but 2 seems to be the default
[10:36] <genii> tdizzy: I would suggest something like:    sudo chown -R <name>:<name> /home/<name>           where <name> is the user name which corresponds to this obviously. then: sudo chmod 644 /home/<name>/.dmrc
[10:36] <jimmygoon> delayed response: @bieb, exact, not to be too picky, but I was hoping for something that would simply zero the hard drive... but I suppose using /dev/urandom would be fine for that
[10:37] <cazze> hi
[10:38] <cazze> anyone xen on gutsy?
[10:38] <CommonClone> I tried to use this script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 to install ndiswrapper on 7.04 and now my computer won't get past the configuring networks stage of reboot...any ideas...I would really like to be able to reboot my computer
[10:38] <heman> Hello
[10:38] <remi____> pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?
[10:38] <heman> I have a question please about ubuntu
[10:38] <exact> Absorto: yes, that what i was looking for too, and the graphical tools werent helping me a bit to find the runlevel or what was running or not, but you seems to be right, thanks a lot for your help :-)
[10:38] <bobgill> anyone here using Thunderbird? I'm trying to upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS> from 1.5.. just downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla's site, but what is the install path of Thunderbird where I would install it to ?
[10:39] <genii> tdizzy: You may also want to do:  sudo chown -R <name>:<name> /home/<name>/.*                     <-- note /.*     after <name> as different from previous command
[10:39] <_Ren> @remi: you must have some "action" configured to that edge of the screen
[10:39] <pthomas> Can I change the font, or at least the font size of command-line?
[10:39] <heman> can I get a dreamscene affect in ubuntu other than VLC
[10:39] <_Ren> bobgill: you should grab thunderbird from the repos
[10:39] <heman> like a compiz plugin or something...?
[10:40] <bobgill> _Ren: I did.. it's 1.5, I want to upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:40] <SpiderPig> bill_ so how does mrtg work?
[10:40] <_Ren> bobgill: that's the most recen version on the feisty repos?
[10:40] <_Ren> weird
[10:40] <SpiderPig> bill_ is it graphical or command?
[10:40] <alcaponage> Someone help me please, my ubuntu won't start~
[10:40] <bobgill> yes
[10:41] <heman> is this the wrong place to ask about that?
[10:41] <_Ren> that sucks
[10:41] <Abd> good evening all
[10:41] <_Ren> well, then
[10:41] <alcaponage> I accidentally unplugged my usb without unmounting
[10:41] <alcaponage> Now it wont' start
[10:41] <mainstream> i got a problem also... my sound aint working :|
[10:41] <bruenig> bobgill, you aren't going to be able to outright upgrade because ubuntu does some weird stuff with thunderbird and firefox
[10:41] <_Ren> if you downloaded a binary tar.gx it should run off the directory where you extracted it
[10:41] <PKdoR> is there a net limiter for linux?
[10:42] <_Ren> just double click the binary, check for execution permission if it doesn't work
[10:42] <PKdoR> a bandwith limiter?
[10:42] <bobgill> I have found this: http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/    <-- recommended or avoid ?
[10:42] <alcaponage> Can someone help me? my ubuntu won't start
[10:42] <strav> he I switched to gutsy beta yesterday and went into a bug I would like to see if it can be reproduced. Mainly, there seems to be a problem with the xorg frame buffer driver. If you install the xserver-xorg-video-fbdev and xvfb packages, you should normally be able to set a vga value (i.e.: vga=792) as an option to the kernel in grub then your virtual terminal should ran into a resolution of 1024x768, on my side, with those settings, virtual terminals w
[10:42] <strav> on't load. The same settings worked for me in feisty so, if anyone is willing to try...
[10:42] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:42] <mainstream> lol so many problems here :P
[10:42] <tdizzy> genii: i got the very same errors again
[10:42] <bruenig> bobgill, even though those two aren't fhs complaint and therefore should be installed in /opt, ubuntu tries to cut them up until they are somewhat fhs complaint and so stuff is all over the place, the best way to do it is just extract into /opt, write .desktop file that points to the binary
[10:42] <alcaponage> I get RAMDISK: ram out of compressed data and
[10:43] <Abd> I did something i should have not done with file flder permissions
[10:43] <_Ren> couldn't tell if it works or not
[10:43] <heman> please may somebody answer my question about dreamscene for UBUNTU
[10:43] <alcaponage> Invalid compressed format (err=1)
[10:43] <bruenig> this guy got a sourceforge project for scripting the install of another program?
[10:43] <bruenig> wow
[10:43] <_Ren> actually, I didn't know a bout
[10:43] <_Ren> it
[10:43] <heman> Is there an application like compiz that I could use...
[10:43] <Abd> so can someone tell me how to reset to the defaut permissions of /usr/bin?
[10:43] <tdizzy> !beryl
[10:43] <mainstream> can anyone help me? i got a problem with my sound
[10:43] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:43] <bruenig> !problem
[10:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <Baumer> Hi I'm an idiot and need help with getting wireless to work
[10:43] <jtkiefer> is there any way to update from 6.06 to 6.10 (and then eventually to 7.04) without doing the migrate your /home trick?
[10:44] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:44] <_Ren> @jtkiefer
[10:44] <_Ren> yes, you can
[10:44] <genii> tdizzy: I'm out of immediate ideas then. Something very odd is going on unless you are running X as root for instance in another users home directory or similar. Or perhaps somehow did already a mistaken chown -R of /home directory to someone else besides <name> where they need to own /home/<name>
[10:44] <heman> Can I get a dream scene effect in UBUNTU 7.04
[10:44] <_Ren> just run update-manager -d from a terminal
[10:44] <jtkiefer> ok, thanks
[10:44] <_Ren> It will tell you that there's a new version of ubuntu
[10:44] <mainstream> _Ren
[10:44] <Baumer> My wireless card is missing
[10:44] <bobgill> bruenig: ok... so I could extract the thunderbird.tar.gz to /opt ? Sorry, I just didn't follow exactly
[10:45] <heman> anyone...?
[10:45] <bruenig> bobgill, extract it, put the directory in /opt and done
[10:45] <strav> oh np... I just found the bug in launchpad.. thanks anyways
[10:45] <_Ren> bobgill: it should work on any directory
[10:45] <PKdoR> is there a bandwith limiter for ubuntu?
[10:45] <_Ren> even your desktop
[10:45] <jtkiefer> Ren, everything else has to be patched up first for it to work though right?
[10:45] <_Ren> jtk: exactly
[10:45] <Abd> how can I reset the /usr/bin permissions to default?
[10:46] <bruenig> Abd, just the directory?
[10:46] <bruenig> like nothing in the directory?
[10:46] <Abd> yes
[10:46] <_Ren> Abd: you shouldn't have changed them in the first place xD
[10:46] <bruenig> Abd, 755 I'm sure
[10:46] <Abd> yes i know :(
[10:46] <tck> Abd, chmod 755 /usr/bin
[10:47] <genii> tdizzy: For the second one, sudo chmod 755 /home/<name>
[10:47] <tdizzy> k
[10:47] <Abd> cool thanks
[10:47] <Baumer> Hello, I'm an idiot... but eth0, which I set as my wireless card cannot be found
[10:47] <Lhademmor> Anyone who knows why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/techboard-2006 is still Pending Approval? Isn't it a little obsolete?
[10:47] <tck> Baumer, try eth1
[10:47] <aoito> t
[10:47] <Baumer> I've been trying to get it to work
[10:47] <tck> or wlan0
[10:47] <bruenig> or ath0
[10:47] <Baumer> So far unsuccesfull... now I'm very unsuccesful
[10:47] <bruenig> or just do things blindly because I don't know what I am talking about
[10:48] <tdizzy> genii: k that took care of the first problem, but ive still got the second
[10:48] <bruenig> oh sorry became tck for a second
[10:48] <tck> Baumer, what does iwconfig say
[10:48] <Baumer> Ok, eth1 is my ethernet
[10:48] <Baumer> it lists eth1 and lo
[10:48] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:48] <tck> BaD_CrC, iwconfig eth1 essid 'name of network' key s:mypassword Mode Managed
[10:48] <Scunizi> MoNsTeR, #ubuntu-effects
[10:48] <genii> tdizzy: I need to leave work in about 5 minutes so cannot help much more at this time
[10:48] <tck> sorry what was for Baumer
[10:48] <Baumer> it lists lo and eth1 and says no wireless extensions
[10:49] <tdizzy> genii: got any idea?
[10:49] <Luke_S> Anyone here use reconstructor before?
[10:49] <bobgill> bruenig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543715    would you recommend using this method ? (extracting to /opt seems fine but just curious)
[10:49] <Abd> earlier I did this chmod a+rwx /usr/bin how to undo that?
[10:49] <Baumer> but I set eth1 as my ethernet card in installation
[10:49] <genii> tdizzy: remove again the .dmrc file
[10:49] <bruenig> bobgill, it isn't curious, that is where ubuntu should put it to begin with
[10:49] <tck> Abd, chmod a-rwx /usr/bin
[10:49] <Baumer> eth0 was set as my wireless... it used to be there until I installed ndiswrapper
[10:49] <Abd> thanks again tck
[10:50] <whonicca> would there be any logical explanation for me to randomly lose all my icon themes besides crux ?
[10:50] <bruenig> Abd, you don't want to do that
[10:50] <tck> Baumer, go to System > Administration > Network
[10:50] <_Ren> whonicca: no
[10:50] <Abd> why?
[10:50] <tck> is your wirless card option available
[10:50] <whonicca> have no idea what happened =\
[10:50] <Baumer> nope
[10:50] <bruenig> Abd, well because then no will have permission to do anything, three people told you to do 755
[10:50] <_Ren> whonicca: it happens usually?
[10:50] <exact> is there a version of ubuntu with nothing setup (no gnome, no X, etc...?)
[10:50] <genii> tdizzy: Good luck with it, I must leave.
[10:50] <_Ren> exact: yes, server
[10:51] <whonicca> _Ren, first time it ever happened
[10:51] <_Ren> server edition, sorry
[10:51] <recon>  Does anybody know how to type an invisible ASCII Character (SOH, hex 0x1, octal 001) in the virtual terminal? Heck, typing it anywhere in X would be useful, too.
[10:51] <Baumer> tck: nope
[10:51] <Luke_S> Can you make a CD that only has X and no desktop manager?
[10:51] <tck> Baumer, is there a wireless LED on your laptop to tell its detected
[10:51] <Abd> yes when i did the chmod a+rwx /path/to/folder i realy could not do a thing
[10:51] <heman> does anyone know how to get a dreamscene effect in UBUNTU?
[10:51] <Abd> i'm trying to undo it
[10:51] <_Ren> whonicca: weird problem, never happened to me. did you mess up with tools like art manager or something?
[10:52] <exact> _Ren: and it just installs a base system? no servers too? (it might sounds like a stupid question, i know)
[10:52] <bruenig> Abd, its not a matter of undoing the permissions were rwxrw-rw-, you by that command changed them to rwxrwxrwx, now you can't do -rwx, because that will make it ---------
[10:52] <Baumer> Yes
[10:52] <Baumer> It's not on
[10:52] <Lhademmor> !wiki
[10:52] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[10:52] <Abd> so what are the optins i have?
[10:52] <whonicca> _Ren, no, i was rebooting my system but it locked up so i shut it off via the power button
[10:52] <_Ren> exact: not really sure, since it's a server oriented distro it should *ask* for package selection
[10:52] <Lhademmor> Anyone knows what IRC the WikiSquad is in?
[10:52] <Abd> *options
[10:52] <bruenig> Abd, its not a matter of undoing the permissions were rwxr-xr-x, you by that command changed them to rwxrwxrwx, now you can't do -rwx, because that will make it ---------
[10:52] <bobgill> bruenig: I extracted the "thunderbird" dir to /opt... just ran thunderbird but it's still saying 1.5
[10:52] <tck> Baumer, does dmesg say anything about your card ; what type of card do you have ?
[10:52] <tdizzy> anyone got an help for my problem? i cant log in because i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:52] <whonicca> come back and icons are missing
[10:52] <heman> ubotu you takling to me?
[10:53] <bruenig> bobgill, what do you mean you "ran" it
[10:53] <heman> talking*
[10:53] <tdizzy> !lol
[10:53] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[10:53] <Baumer> It's a broadcom dell wireless ... I forget the number
[10:53] <bobgill> bruenig: did alt+f2 and "mozilla-thunderbird"
[10:53] <_Ren> whonicca: during bootup, did it complain about filesystem errors or something?
[10:53] <whonicca> is there a way to boot up without the ubuntu splash to see if i get any errors during bootup
[10:53] <tck> Baumer, have you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[10:53] <bruenig> Abd, to get back to rwxr-xr-x, you do 755 like they told you above
[10:53] <Creeture> tdizzy: I'm not sure how that message can be any clearer.
[10:53] <exact> _Ren: ok thanks for the information anyway i'm going to try it :-)
[10:53] <whonicca> _Ren, no, no errors
[10:53] <tck> hey Baumer i have that card, try this, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:53] <registere> I hope some one might be able to help me.....I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu website for windows (iso).....I go to burn it but i get a error message that say's block size is invalid and I cannot get past this to burn the iso - please help ????
[10:53] <bruenig> bobgill, yeah don't do that, run the executable in the extracted directory
[10:53] <Abd> ok thanks again bruenig
[10:53] <tdizzy> Creeture: im a linux newb and dont understand how to fix the error
[10:53] <whonicca> _Ren, any way to boot up without the ubuntu splash?
[10:53] <registere> I hope some one might be able to help me.....I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu website for windows (iso).....I go to burn it but i get a error message that say's block size is invalid and I cannot get past this to burn the iso - please help ????
[10:54] <_Ren> whonicca: booting up in failsafe mode doesn't work?
[10:54] <whonicca> oh let me try that
[10:54] <whonicca> brb
[10:54] <Creeture> tdizzy: Was it ever working? What did you do that caused the breakage? Let's start there.
[10:54] <exact> whonicca: you should change your grub settings file (w8t a sec)
[10:54] <Baumer> tck:  dmesg doesn't say anything about my wireless
[10:54] <whonicca> oh ok
[10:54] <tck>  do the command above
[10:54] <Pallee> registere: try iso recorder by alex *something*
[10:55] <tck> Baumer,  sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:55] <z9999> Is there a way to list all installed codecs in Ubuntu?
[10:55] <bruenig> z9999, no
[10:55] <exact> whonicca: my /boot/grub/menu.lst file looks like this:
[10:55] <Creeture> registere: Feinman, Alex. http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[10:55] <exact> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=b41468c0-2d07-4668-8c3d-1212cbf60959 ro nosplash vga=0x31b
[10:55] <bobgill> bruenig: ok, it works... but it doesn't have my account info or anything... ie., it's perhaps not reading my ~/home/user/.thunderbird profile... how can I make it do that so I don't have to add everything all over again ??
[10:55] <exact> whonicca: the "nosplash" is what you want
[10:55] <whonicca> yeah
[10:55] <bruenig> bobgill, it should be reading it
[10:56] <exact> whonicca: the vga=0x31b means to set the framebuffer into 1280x1024x16 mode
[10:56] <heman> Does anyone know any other fun features that I can get for ubuntu please
[10:56] <bobgill> it's not :(
[10:56] <bruenig> bobgill, is it not .mozilla/thunderbird
[10:56] <Baumer> Hmm the download ran into broken link...
[10:57] <exact> whonicca: you can try a search on google for vga framebuffer grub modes or something like that to find a list
[10:57] <bobgill> bruenig: there's .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird in /home/user.
[10:57] <tck> Baumer, how do you mean?
[10:57] <bruenig> bobgill, ok so it is probably reading one and not the other try swapping them around
[10:57] <Creeture> whonicca: You can also look in the kernel documenation. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/vga.txt is where it is. Might have a gander at the git repository if you don't (you probably don't) have it installed.
[10:57] <tck> Baumer, what version of ubuntu are you using
[10:57] <tB> I was wondering if anyone here knew much about downloading source packages via apt, and then compiling it after modifying it.
[10:57] <heman> what channel should I go to, to ask questions not for support?
[10:58] <exact> whonicca: btw, i'm interrested on how to set RGB values to default colors in console mode, if you find anything, i'd take
[10:58] <Baumer> It got a 404 Not Found error while trying to connect to boredklink.googlepages.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80
[10:58] <whonicca> once u edit menu.lst
[10:58] <whonicca> whats the command to update grub
[10:58] <PKdoR> can any one recomend a bandwith limiter for linux?
[10:58] <heman> how do I change the top and bottom menu's theme please? I think thats relevant...
[10:58] <bobgill> bruenig: wow you doggone genius... switched the folder names and it has loaded it all up... why was it doing that (reading the opposite one) ??
[10:58] <piotr_> /wc/
[10:59] <exact> whonicca: it's not like lilo, you just reboot, grub will take care of going to read the configuration file
[10:59] <rabid42> whonicca there isn't one, grub rereads the menu.lst file on boot
[10:59] <LogicalDash> "There are differences between the boot sector and its backup." Is that important?
[10:59] <bruenig> if only people would use some basic logic, this channel would be half as full
[10:59] <VWJ1bnR1> When I installed the KDE, I lost the GDM, and so I can't get the GUI login.  How do I get it back?
[10:59] <exact> whonicca: want a copy paste of my menu.lst?
[10:59] <tck> Baumer, the laptop you are trying to configure, does it have net access ?
[10:59] <Baumer> Yep I'm using it
[10:59] <whonicca> thanks guys, i think i got it
[10:59] <Baumer> right now
[10:59] <Creeture> bruenig: What type of thinking leads you to that conclusion?
[10:59] <exact> k
[10:59] <exact> ;)
[11:00] <whonicca> im even missing the ubuntu symbol
[11:00] <Baumer> eth1 is ethernet hard wired
[11:00] <whonicca> on my taskbar
[11:00] <tck> Baumer, ok, try this site http://download.berlios.de/bcm43xx/b43-fwcutter-008.tar.bz2
[11:00] <whonicca> for the drop down menu =(
[11:00] <bruenig> Creeture, there are two directories .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird, the thunderbird I just installed from mozilla is not reading my preferences, how do I get it to do that
[11:00] <Baumer> Ok Done
[11:00] <bruenig> hmmm
[11:00] <Megaqwerty> Hi, I was wondering if you delete an account in thunderbird, does the mail get deleted too? The account's mail is stored in the "Local folders" section.
[11:01] <tdizzy> Creeture: yeah it was for a while; i accidently removed my ubuntu partition, then restored it and the GRUB, and i got that error when i tried to log in
[11:01] <tB> Does anyone know how to compile packages?
[11:01] <Creeture> bruenig: The one in /opt reads from ~/.thunderbird. The one in the Ubuntu repositories reads from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[11:01] <tck> Baumer, now extract it with, tar jxvf bcm*
[11:01] <bruenig> Creeture, yes, that is a question that someone just asked
[11:01] <tck> Baumer, then cd bcm* folder, ./configure ; make   (then do) sudo make install
[11:01] <Beefheart> whats the move command in linux please?
[11:02] <bruenig> Creeture, you are telling me that even elementary logic couldn't have solved that
[11:02] <bruenig> Beefheart, mv
[11:02] <Beefheart> ty
[11:02] <DShepherd> !compile | tB
[11:02] <ubotu> tB: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:02] <bobgill> bruenig: Sorry, some of us have many things going on in life that distracts us, I perhaps should've thought of that, but thanks for your help regardless, it's much appreciated :)
[11:02] <tB> Thanks :)
[11:02] <Creeture> bruenig: I'm pretty sure it could've, but I'm not sure that there's even a hint of elementary logic in the minds of most users.
[11:02] <jtkiefer> hmm, ubuntu doesn't come with a c++ compiler to deal with package building
[11:03] <bruenig> Creeture, right which is why I said what I said, I thought you were challenging my claim
[11:03] <Creeture> jtkiefer: It does if you aptitude install build-essential
[11:03] <Creeture> bruenig: Nah, I was being a smartass, that's all.
[11:03] <Lhademmor> Ye Olde https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcademicInvolvement is largely obsolete and should either be updated or deleted
[11:03] <Lhademmor> Can I get a volunteer from the audience? :P
[11:04] <Creeture> Lhademmor: How much do you care what it looks like when I'm done? *evil grin*
[11:04] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[11:04] <jrib> !compile > jtkiefer (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:04] <tck> Baumer, i gotta go, how are you getting on ?
[11:04] <Baumer> what was the second command?
[11:04] <Baumer> ./configure didn't work
[11:04] <tck> first is, ./configure   then you run
[11:04] <jtkiefer> jrib, thanks
[11:04] <tck> make
[11:04] <Lhademmor> Creeture: As long as you change the line "as of now (May 2005)..." I'm good :P
[11:04] <tck> then you run sudo make install
[11:04] <_Ren> maybe it doesn't have a configure file
[11:04] <Baumer> ./configure gave me No such file or directory
[11:05] <whonicca> still missing all my icons =\
[11:05] <_Ren> just try make then
[11:05] <_Ren> whonicca: sorry, I got afk
[11:05] <jtkiefer> is it just me or do a lot of the archive repositories (for dapper) return error 403 (forbidden)
[11:05] <Baumer> should I be running the file Makefile?
[11:05] <Baumer> or fwcutter?
[11:06] <_Ren> whonicca: I'm afraid I don't know exactly wat's going on
[11:06] <whonicca> this is weird since it seems like all my drives are loading fine
[11:06] <tdizzy> Creeture: so any idea how to fix it?
[11:06] <whonicca> i think it might be something with gnome that might have got screwed, maybe a config file
[11:06] <_Ren> whonicca: I first thought of a HD problem
[11:06] <tck> Baumer, join #m00
[11:06] <Megaqwerty> Hi, I was wondering if you delete an account in thunderbird, does the mail get deleted too? The account's mail is stored in the "Local folders" section.
[11:06] <Creeture> tdizzy: How did you restore the brokenness?
[11:06] <whonicca> can u log in as root on ubuntu?
[11:06] <whonicca> see if its just something to do with my home directory
[11:06] <Megaqwerty>  !root | whonicca
[11:06] <ubotu> whonicca: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:07] <_Ren> whonicca:by default, no
[11:07] <whonicca> nevermind ill just add a user
[11:07] <tdizzy> Creeture: TestDisk
[11:07] <_Ren> whonicca: try to add a new user and then check
[11:07] <tdizzy> !testdisk
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <Creeture> wonicca: Copy and paste that exact question in Google. See whatcha get.
[11:07] <tdizzy> lol
[11:07] <Seveas> Megaqwerty, not necessarily, look in your homedir in ,mozilla or .thunderbird
[11:07] <ljlolel> once, in installed Ubuntu and the only login was Root
[11:07] <tdizzy> !gnome
[11:07] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[11:07] <tdizzy> !chicken
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chicken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <ljlolel> there was both a root user and a root password
[11:07] <tdizzy> lol
[11:07] <Seveas> !bot abuse | tdizzy
[11:07] <Creeture> tdizzy: It's probably permissions. Walking you through how to fix it will be painful. Anything in there that you absolutely have to have?
[11:07] <ubotu> tdizzy: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[11:08] <whonicca> great whats the command to add a user? the add users proggy on ubuntu isnt even loading up for me
[11:08] <bruenig> adduser
[11:08] <LjL> whonicca: adduser
[11:08] <tdizzy> Creeture: not really
[11:08] <bruenig> or useradd
[11:08] <bruenig> adduser is a front end
[11:08] <tdizzy> Creeture: know of any web tutorial to guide me through it?
[11:08] <Creeture> tdizzy: A complete install takes me about 15 minutes. We could spend a couple of hours trying to fix it if you like.
[11:08] <ljlolel> whonicca: adduser
[11:08] <whonicca> Password:
[11:08] <whonicca> adduser: Only one or two names allowed.
[11:08] <ljlolel> whonicca: sudo adduser joseph
[11:08] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[11:09] <chris__> where would i go if im having problems with mozilla not responding?
[11:09] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: aptitude purge packagename
[11:09] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: Which package is it?
[11:09] <^Ocean^> is there a /dev/ device for the Micraphone ?
[11:09] <Seveas> Shapeshifter, sudo apt-get install name_of_that_package
[11:09] <^Ocean^> with Alsa ?
[11:09] <Absolute0> !xgl
[11:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:09] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: compiz-core ^^ and it's been there for weeks now. But I'm already on the newest version, that version there just seems to be nothing at all
[11:10] <Absolute0> !compiz
[11:10] <_Ren> Shapeshifter: from unofficial repos?
[11:10] <bottiger> where do I edit the message which is shown when you log in with ssh ?
[11:10] <Absolute0> how do i switch to compiz?
[11:10] <Seveas> bottiger, sudo gedit /etc/motd
[11:10] <Absolute0> it says that its already installed
[11:10] <erUSUL> bottiger: /etc/issue*
[11:10] <b_wolf_007> finally it looks I am connected in a chat
[11:10] <_Ren> System -> preferences -> desktop effects
[11:10] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: yes, amaranths
[11:10] <b_wolf_007> please can anybady help me
[11:10] <b_wolf_007> HELP
[11:11] <bottiger> Seveas: thanks
[11:11] <kaptengu> how can I use "svn checkout"?
[11:11] <Seveas> Absolute0, enable desktop effects in system -> preferences > desktop effects
[11:11] <Seveas> Absolute0, or run this: compiz --replace
[11:11] <Creeture> b_wolf_007: Try asking a question first. Then we'll determine if we can answer it.
[11:11] <preaction> kaptengu, apt-get install subversion
[11:11] <Beefheart> anyone here got any experience with installing Anarchy Online on linux?
[11:11] <Seveas> !helpme | b_wolf_007
[11:11] <ubotu> b_wolf_007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <tdizzy> Creeture: the install of the OS is really fast, but everything else i had on it will take a while to put back on
[11:11] <kaptengu> preaction: ty
[11:11] <b_wolf_007> ok first of all greetengs 4 all of u
[11:11] <Absolute0> Seveas: it says "The composite extension is not available"
[11:11] <Creeture> tdizzy: You said there was nothing that you needed to keep.
[11:11] <b_wolf_007> I have to many questions
[11:11] <Seveas> !u b_wolf_007
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u b_wolf_007 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <_Ren> tdizzy: you should use aptoncd
[11:11] <Seveas> !u | b_wolf_007
[11:11] <Luke_S> Is there no way to create an Ubuntu CD that has X but not a destktop manager (GNOME/KDE, etc...)?????
[11:11] <ubotu> b_wolf_007: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:12] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: I had compiz-core installed from the beginning, after the second update (it may be that it was the point where I changed reps from tuxfamily to amaranths) that compiz-core package went sticky forever. and it says that the pacakge will be updated but the two packes totally match
[11:12] <Seveas> Luke_S, there is, search for live cd customization on the wiki
[11:12] <Absolute0> Luke_S: apt-get remove gnome? :)
[11:12] <tdizzy> _Ren: whats aptoncd?
[11:13] <Megaqwerty>  !aptoncd | tdizzy
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <b_wolf_007> I'm a tech  servicer , I'v worked to much with Windows, now I'm new in Ubuntu, I'v installed Ubuntu 7.04 one week ago
[11:13] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: I dunno. I try not to use anything outside of the normal repositories and despise the way those things you mentioned work. So good luck.
[11:13] <Megaqwerty> huh
[11:13] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: huh, ok thx nway
[11:13] <Megaqwerty> tdizzy: it makes a repository out of all the packages you've downloaded, and puts it on a CD.
[11:13] <_Ren> tdizzy: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs (you choose the type of media) with all of the packages you've downloaded via APT-GET or APTITUDE, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers.
[11:13] <_Ren> APTonCD will also allow you to automatically create media with all of your .deb packages located in one especific repository, so that you can install them into your computers without the need for an internet conection.
[11:13] <Luke_S> Seveas: Is there a way to do it using reconstructor?
[11:13] <b_wolf_007> and I want to try ubuntu 7.10, but i want to clear some steps during installation of ubuntu
[11:14] <tdizzy> thas
[11:14] <tdizzy> thanks*
[11:14] <VWJ1bnR1> When I tried to reload GDM, I got the following error message: invoce-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[11:14] <Seveas> Luke_S, I don't know reconstructor :)
[11:14] <b_wolf_007> i want to know what exactly am doing
[11:14] <Seveas> _Ren, I'm going to steal that description or ubotu :)
[11:14] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: Sorry. It's probably just a matter of making dpkg believe that the package is fully installed.
[11:14] <_Ren> Seveas: it's from the website
[11:14] <whonicca> Any special thing one needs to do to add / give a user gnome access?  I try to log in via gdm with my test account and it just stays locked up
[11:14] <Seveas> !aptoncd is <reply> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[11:14] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[11:15] <Absolute0> Seveas: it says "The composite extension is not available"
[11:15] <_Ren> whonica: you should add it to the desktop group
[11:15] <chris__> can someone tell me which channel i should go to for help with drivers etc ?
[11:15] <_Ren> whonica: but I'm not sure
[11:15] <Seveas> Absolute0, bad luck then
[11:15] <whonicca> addgrp?
[11:15] <Absolute0> Seveas: could that be because i have fglrx?
[11:15] <Seveas> yup yup
[11:15] <chook> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:15] <blue|palm> how do I know what jre my ubuntu is using when I execute a jar file?
[11:16] <Seveas> fglrx needs xgl before you can run compiz
[11:16] <_Ren> Absolute0: yes, fglrx doesn't support compiz, sorry
[11:16] <Absolute0> so no way to get compiz working for me?
[11:16] <Seveas> lot of work
[11:16] <Seveas> Absolute0, yeah, but imho not worth the effort. Docs are on the wiki
[11:16] <Absolute0> ok
[11:16] <Absolute0> :)
[11:16] <Absolute0> will it work with xorg-ati driver?
[11:16] <Seveas> only if you have a rather old ati card
[11:17] <Devourer> What does "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" mean?
[11:17] <staykovmarin_> does ubuntu come with evdev installed?
[11:17] <chris__> can someone tell me which channel i should go to for help with drivers etc ?
[11:17] <Seveas> Absolute0, but ati recently released all their specs so maybe there's a working driver in Ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 :)
[11:17] <blue|palm> how do I know what jre my ubuntu is using when I execute a jar file? and how do I change this?
[11:17] <Seveas> chris__, this one would be good to start :)
[11:17] <Seveas> blue|palm, java -version
[11:17] <jrib> staykovmarin_: no, but it is in the repos
[11:17] <Absolute0> which one is 8.04?
[11:17] <Seveas> blue|palm, and to change: sudo update-java-alternatives
[11:18] <Seveas> Absolute0, the one that will be released in april next year, codename Hardy Heron
[11:18] <chris__> ok theres too much going on here where else could i go ?
[11:18] <Devourer> !sound
[11:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:18] <erUSUL> Devourer: somehow your sound card was not recogniced and the drivers were not loaded... so you do not have the sound dev files
[11:18] <erUSUL> !sound | Devourer
[11:18] <ubotu> Devourer: please see above
[11:18] <Absolute0> oh
[11:18] <Absolute0> so let me search..
[11:18] <whonicca> _Ren, group desktop doesnt seem to exist
[11:18] <b_wolf_007> sorry for my U ok
[11:18] <jrib> !support > chris__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:18] <blue|palm> Seveas, thanks loads
[11:18] <Lhademmor> Is http://www.ubuntu.com/community/developerzone/bounties outdated, or haven't any bounties been completed since 2005?!
[11:19] <jrib> !ask | chris__
[11:19] <ubotu> chris__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:19] <Seveas> Lhademmor, very outdated
[11:19] <Seveas> Lhademmor, the entire bounty program is pretty much dead
[11:19] <staykovmarin_> jrib: thx
[11:19] <Lhademmor> Seveas: So, should you pull the plug and delete the page?
[11:19] <chris__> ok so if someone could recomend me a channel in irc to get help with drivers and resolution changes that would be awesome
[11:19] <Seveas> Lhademmor, yeah, someone should
[11:19] <^Ocean^> Is there a way too pipe sound too the Micraphone input too kinda of "Fake" sound input coming into the computer ?
[11:20] <leladia> pls i am trying to exclude two separate strings from my grep -v command line how do i do it?
[11:20] <Creeture> leladia: egrep -v "string1|string2" maybe?
[11:20] <Seveas> leladia, or run grep twice :)
[11:21] <jrib> chris__: you need to state your actual problem
[11:21] <Seveas> leladia, grep -v blabla /var/log/messages | grep -v bloblo
[11:21] <chris__> there is too much here scrolling for me
[11:21] <leladia>  Seveas: i don't want to run grep twice and i don't also want to use egrep
[11:22] <Seveas> leladia, then read the manpage for grep if you don't want to take suggestions
[11:22] <Russel> hiho
[11:22] <Seveas> btw, egrep is just grep -e
[11:22] <beta> Is it possible to load a windows partition on the physical drive through vmware or similar tool?
[11:22] <leladia> Seveas: isn't there some other way?
[11:22] <Creeture> leladia: try grep -e"string1" -e"string2" to include both then. Otherwise, don't use grep. Quitcherbitchin and take a suggestion.
[11:22] <Russel> can somebody post the "output" of visudo on a normal ubuntu installation?
[11:22] <AutoMatriX> hi folks ... plse hel me ... my RT73 USB wifi key freezes the complete system, at random ..
[11:22] <Seveas> beta, you can simply mount it...
[11:22] <Seveas> !mount | beta
[11:22] <ubotu> beta: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:23] <Seveas> !ntfs | beta
[11:23] <ubotu> beta: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:23] <beta> Steveas, I don't want to mount the partition (i've already done this) i want to actually run a virtual windows
[11:23] <Seveas> beta, ah ok
[11:23] <jrib> chris__: ignore what everyone says and concentrate on what people say to you
[11:23] <Seveas> beta, vmware has a tool to convert a windows install into a vm. Searching on the vmware website should help you find it
[11:23] <leladia> guys pls don't take any offence if i am refusing to do it ur way
[11:23] <beta> Steveas, alright I will try that. Thanks.
[11:24] <Seveas> Russel, do you mean the default sudoers file?
[11:24] <Lhademmor> Seveas, who's responsible /// Who should I poke to?
[11:24] <leladia> i am not insulting ur intelligence
[11:24] <tdizzy> !aptoncd
[11:24] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[11:24] <Creeture> leladia: We're not offended, but we've exhausted the options. Try one of 'em.
[11:24] <Seveas> Lhademmor, matthew nuzum (newz2000 on freenode)
[11:24] <tdizzy> i cant install APTonCD, using the source, the deb package, or Synaptic
[11:24] <chris__> ok  well i guess ill just go to random channels
[11:24] <Seveas> !ur is <alias> u
[11:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[11:25] <Seveas> !4 is <alias> u
[11:25] <Russel> Seveas: have it now, but thx
[11:25] <Creeture> She canna take much more Cappin, there's no more switches!
[11:25] <Seveas> Russel, ok :)
[11:25] <Lhademmor> !ur
[11:25] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:25] <leladia>  Creeture: from man there is the -E option and i tried using it with -v... is that not possible
[11:25] <Lhademmor> !god
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <LjL> !botabuse
[11:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:26] <Absolute0> anyone knows how to turn off all files and enable just one in "rtorrent" instead of doing one at a time for hours?
[11:26] <Absolute0> :)
[11:26] <Creeture> leladia: It's absolutely possible. -E: "egrep is the same as grep -E"
[11:26] <Creeture> leladia: Do you know regular expressions?
[11:27] <b_wolf_007> who can help me please
[11:27] <leladia>  Creeture: not too well
[11:27] <erUSUL> !ask | b_wolf_007
[11:27] <ubotu> b_wolf_007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:27] <leladia> Creeture: i just starting using unix
[11:27] <Creeture> leladia: What *EXACTLY* do you want to do?
[11:27] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, nobody unless you ask an actual question :)
[11:27] <b_wolf_007> no root file is defined
[11:27] <Davy_Jones> what's the name of the program that launches when you connect a digital camera?
[11:27] <chris__> im having visualization troubles and ide like to increase my resolution i cannot follow this channel so if u can help me please pm me
[11:27] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL
[11:27] <La_PaRCa> Is there a page in the wiki that documents how specs should be developed and submitted?
[11:28] <soundray> Davy_Jones: f-spot
[11:28] <b_wolf_007> can i mount ubuntu 7.10 in fat 32
[11:28] <jrib> !fixres >  (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:28] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, no
[11:28] <jrib> !fixres > chris__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:28] <Davy_Jones> soundray: doesn't seem like it..
[11:28] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: do you mean install using fat32 filesystem?
[11:28] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL yes
[11:28] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, you need to create separate partitions for Ubuntu. if you don't know what you're doing: use the 'guided partition, resize partitions and use free space' option in the installer
[11:29] <Lhademmor> !exaile
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Lhademmor> !music
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <soundray> Davy_Jones: configure via System-Preferences-Removable drives and media
[11:29] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: or you are asking if you can access fat32 partitions from ubuntu 7.04?
[11:29] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, and Ubuntu win't install on fat32
[11:29] <Lhademmor> !audioplayers
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audioplayers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <chris__> this is my first couple of hours on here im not familiar with the shell
[11:29] <leladia> Creeture: grep -v 'sleep wake' file1 (i want it to recognize sleep and wake as two separate strings)
[11:30] <Gin> hi, my sound card stopped working. how do I reconfigure my soundcard?
[11:30] <fliegenderfrosch> Davy_Jones: is it gthump that you're looking for?
[11:30] <jrib> Davy_Jones: check system -> prefs -> removable drives and media
[11:30] <Davy_Jones> soundray: that was helpful.. thanks
[11:30] <Creeture> leladia: grep -v -e"sleep" -e"wake" file1
[11:30] <b_wolf_007> i created 3partitions
[11:30] <Lhademmor> sry
[11:30] <dstadulis> anyone know a quick terminal way to check what bitrate mp3's are??
[11:30] <Creeture> leladia: or grep -E -V "sleep|wake" file1
[11:30] <Creeture> make that a little -v
[11:30] <leladia>  Creeture: let me try that and see
[11:30] <soundray> dstadulis: try 'file file.mp3'
[11:30] <erUSUL> dstadulis: file file.mp3
[11:30] <b_wolf_007> I want to mount Ubuntu in fat 32, that can access and from windows
[11:31] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, impossible.
[11:31] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, use ext3 and install the ext2 filesystem driver for windows
[11:31] <soundray> b_wolf_007: stick with ext3. You can install ext2fsd in Windows to access ubuntu partitions.
[11:31] <b_wolf_007> can I let an extra partition to save data from ubuntu that can access from window
[11:31] <b_wolf_007> Seveas, thanks
[11:31] <jrib> !ext3 > b_wolf_007 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:31] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, sure, that's also an option
[11:32] <Gin> hi, my sound card stopped working. how do I reconfigure my soundcard?
[11:32] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: you can access ntfs part from linux (even read/writte with ntfs-3g)
[11:32] <soundray> b_wolf_007: yes, you can have a dedicated shared storage partition. I still suggest you make it ext3, because it is a much better filesystem.
[11:32] <b_wolf_007> ok thanks
[11:32] <b_wolf_007> I will try with ext3
[11:32] <Lhademmor> LjL, Seveas, can someone teach ubotu that exaile is part of !players
[11:32] <b_wolf_007> and install those drivers
[11:32] <soundray> !sound > Gin, please read the private message from ubotu
[11:32] <dstadulis> erUSUL: No luck<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding
[11:33] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: also as Seveas pointed out there is a ext2 driver for windows. So copying files around shouldn't be a problem
[11:33] <Creeture> Hey, somebody smack the core developers for me. apti<tab> used to only complete to aptitude. Who introduced aptitude-create-state-bundle and aptitude-run-state-bundle to screw that up for me?
[11:33] <alena> pls Who know when stopped support for ubuntu 6.10
[11:33] <leladia> Creeture:  grep -E -V "sleep|wake" file1 (i am told illegal use of --E)
[11:33] <Seveas> alena, it will stop in april 2008
[11:33] <soundray> dstadulis: install mp3info
[11:33] <flush> anyone ever got the trick to read magnetic stripe through the mic input of the sound card to work ?
[11:33] <Creeture> leladia: it's -v not -V
[11:33] <LjL> Lhademmor: done
[11:33] <dstadulis> soundray: thanks
[11:33] <leladia> Creeture: i used -v
[11:33] <Lhademmor> LjL, thanks
[11:33] <Lhademmor> !exaile
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <Lhademmor> LjL, ? :P
[11:34] <LjL> Lhademmor: it's in !players.
[11:34] <Lhademmor> d'oh
[11:34] <Lhademmor> !players
[11:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[11:34] <alena> Seveas thx, i must find any distribution
[11:34] <LjL> we don't generally have factoids for *single* packages, unless there are special instructions needed for them.
[11:34] <Creeture> leladia: It'll work, I promise.
[11:34] <LjL> !info exaile | Lhademmor, for information on a single package
[11:34] <ubotu> lhademmor, for information on a single package: exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[11:35] <Lhademmor> LjL, then exaile <alias> players ?
[11:35] <nomin> !alternate
[11:35] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:35] <leladia>  Creeture: am sure u didn't get my last msg, what i mean is that i did not use -V i used -v and it gave me that message