[00:02] <Beldar> to*
[00:02] <TJ-> PublicStaticVoid: There are different ways of triggering the same functionality
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> sudo apt-get install mate-core or update-manager -d  ?
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> Which one?
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> Oh okay
[00:03] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:03] <PublicStaticVoid> One person aid it wasnt even possible to do an upgrade.. so i was confused
[00:03] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, Some answers here are opinions, so you do have to separate the wheat from the chaff at times
[00:03] <michael__> What is happening?
[00:04] <psusi> michael__, netsplit... some irc servers got disconnected from the rest of the network
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: freenodes been under a lot of ddos attacks in the last few days, so lots of netsplits
[00:04] <michael__> I've never seen that
[00:04] <andresmh> I have Ubuntu running on an ARM device, a BeagleBone. I'm having trouble using a USB Wi-FI adapter. The adapter does show up as a usb device in lsusbm but it doesn't show as a network device by ifconfig. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[00:04] <spearhead> it happened 4 times in a row yesterday
[00:05] <Mcdonalds> Bonsoir tout le monde !!
[00:05] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: why would someone attack freenode?
[00:05] <psusi> andresmh, the device needs a driver, that either linux doens't have, or you don't have built and installed on your system
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: because they have too much time on their hands and nothing productive to do with it
[00:06] <jirido> lol Ok!
[00:06] <andresmh> psusi: thanks. how do I get started trying to figure out which driver i need?
[00:07] <psusi> andresmh, google for the name of the device and linux...
[00:08] <andresmh> I actually followed this instructions: http://dotnetdavid.wordpress.com/2013/09/14/beaglebone-black-set-up-wireless-on-ubuntu/ which involved getting new firmware kernel files from https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/rtlwifi
[00:08] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, you still here?
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: just about
[00:09] <andresmh> but it failed to get the wlan0 up when doing ' sudo ifconfig wlan0 up', psusi
[00:09] <michael__> andresmh: Is ethernet working on the device in question?
[00:09] <TJ-> andresmh: Does "iwconfig" report any wireless interfaces?
[00:09] <andresmh> michael__: yes
[00:10] <andresmh> TJ: no
[00:10] <Cheryl_c> how do I install java for my chrome web browser
[00:10] <dougl> 3.11.0-14-generic !!! hitsujiTMO is what I am grub defaulting to and I am editing 3.11.0-15-generic... can you help me correct my grub?
[00:10] <andresmh> TJ: this is what I get http://pastebin.com/swwhcZEZ
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: whats output of: uname -a
[00:11] <nevyn> andresmh: what does ifconfig -a report2/win /win 12
[00:11] <dougl> so when I edit my grub entry to 15 my plymou...Linux kubuntu 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux hitsujiTMO
[00:12] <dougl> my plymouth config works coerrectly... hitsujiTMO
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: pastebin: ls -l /boot
[00:13] <TJ-> andresmh: That output confirms you're missing the drivers... either they're available but not loaded, or not available at all and need acquiring or building
[00:14] <LordDeath> German site heise.de warns people from using Ubuntu as a server: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Distributionen-patchen-Drupal-ausser-Ubuntu-2075618.html
[00:14] <dougl> never do anything b... hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/sdvp5tqQ
[00:14] <TJ-> andresmh: Can you pastebin the output of "lsusb -v" ?
[00:14] <Cheryl_c> I just downloaded the java plugin for my chrome browser but don't know how to install it
[00:15] <k1l> LordDeath: file a bug :/
[00:15] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, always standard cli update then dist-upgrade
[00:15] <andresmh> TJ: here's the lsusb -v http://pastebin.com/rcq7VkUr
[00:15] <alexvr> http://sites.google.com/site/Javinstall might work
[00:15] <gordonjcp> LordDeath: actually, it's saying not to use unpatched versions of Drupal
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: have you modified any grub related files directly?
[00:16] <anew> in resolv.conf how do i add a dns server ?
[00:16] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, never always standard cli update then dist-upgrade
[00:16] <dougl> for those kernels
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg              then please run: sudo update-grub             and then pastebin again /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:17] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, will do...
[00:18] <possum_> hello i am trying to reach my machine which is behind a router from the open internet. i have the correct ip and i set port forwarding on the router. i run 'nc -l 55555' on my local pc and when i connect to it via 'nc <IP_ADDRESS> 55555' it works from the lan. but when i try from a public ip to the ip of the router i get a timeout. could this be a firewall issue or something that comes by default
[00:18] <possum_> in ubuntu?
[00:18] <dougl> what is cli syntax for pastebin?
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: sudo apt-get install pastebinit      then     pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:19] <_CHOW> O
[00:19] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, thanks...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706373/
[00:20] <_CHOW> [08:19] <_CHOW> HI????
[00:20] <possum_> i forwarded public port 55555 to port 55555 on my machine's local ip
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: do you have another copy of linux installed?
[00:20] <dougl> 13.04
[00:21] <dougl> that works nice too
[00:21] <dougl> and I have 12.10 on my server
[00:21] <TJ-> possum_: Does your router also require a firewall allow rule for that port?
[00:21] <possum_> TJ-: no it is just a simple home router
[00:21] <possum_> TJ-: it has a web interface for port forwarding
[00:22] <jhutchins> possum_: Problem most likely with your forwarding.
[00:22] <dougl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706394/ hitsujiTMO
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: what do you get for: lsb_release -a
[00:22] <jhutchins> possum_: How are you testing the external connection?
[00:22] <possum_> jhutchins: i set the correct ports and ips, i triple, well quadruple checked
[00:22] <possum_> jhutchins: also with netcat
[00:22] <possum_> nc <public ip of the router> 55555
[00:23] <jhutchins> possum_: If you do that from within the lan you're not testing it.
[00:23] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu 13.10 details
[00:23] <TJ-> possum_: And you're 100% that the "nc" process is still running on the local PC? nc will usually exit after a connection has been dropped and needs to be re-started
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin the full lot please
[00:23] <possum_> jhutchins: i was just testing whether the nc syntax is correct, so we can rule that out because it works in the local lan. of course i am not testing the nat by that
[00:23] <dougl> No LSB modules are available.
[00:23] <possum_> TJ-: yes 100%, it works if i connect to it locally later
[00:24] <TJ-> possum_: You can't do loopback on the router; you'll need to connect from an outside IP
[00:24] <possum_> TJ-: thats why i said "from a public ip"
[00:24] <possum_> TJ-: to be more precise, it is not the same public ip as the router
[00:25] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/cZHGv5DZ
[00:25] <TJ-> possum_: OK ... so run "sudo tcpdump -vni eth0 tcp port 5555" on the local PC and see if it sees any connection attempts. If not, your router needs more configuration
[00:26]  * dougl is making too many mistakes appreciates the help
[00:26] <possum_> ok TJ-
[00:26] <TJ-> possum_: of course, correct my typo there "... tcp port 55555"
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub
[00:26] <possum_> sure
[00:26] <possum_> also wlan0
[00:27] <TJ-> possum_: You've got the drift :)
[00:27] <possum_> :)
[00:27] <michael__> My internet is slow, just saying
[00:27] <TJ-> andresmh: I've got the latest kernel source code here; I don't see any driver claiming the 148f:7601 device
[00:28] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706421/
[00:28] <andresmh> TJ-: hmm that's sad :(
[00:28] <R3K4CE> I have xubuntu installed on a laptop and I can't connect to the internet. When I hover over the internet icon i get no network devices available. Is there a fix for this?
[00:28] <michael__> Is there a way I can make a hard disk image using mkisofs?
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: ahh so you have changed /etc/default/grub :P
[00:29] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, LOL consider my hand slapped... what should I do :)
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: in /etc/default/grub set GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: then rerun: sudo update grub             and then reboot to test
[00:31]  * dougl recalls messing with grub now that hitsujiTMO catches him lol
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[00:32] <michael__> Is there a way I can make a hard disk image using mkisofs?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: you dont have GRUB_DISTRIBUTION set so in your grub.cfg it has GNU/Linux so thats how i spotted that you modified that file
[00:33] <Beldar> michael__, You might try ##linux as well.
[00:33] <michael__> Ok
[00:34] <Beldar> pretty geeky there
[00:34] <dougl> that is why I love this channel hitsujiTMO ... you guys are great!
[00:34] <michael__> dougl: I find the graphical tool grub-customizer useful for not messing up my system
[00:35] <TJ-> andresmh: I've found an out-of-tree source-code package that includes a driver that claims that device; I'm not sure if you'll be able to build and install it though
[00:37] <dougl> michael__, point and click is not my favorite... prolly cuz I cant find anything
[00:37] <TJ-> andresmh: Here you go: https://github.com/hitmoon/mt7601u
[00:38] <michael__> Beldar: That channel won't let me speak, and the link to register nicks gives a 404
[00:38] <Beldar> !register | michael__
[00:38] <andresmh> TJ-: that's awesome! thanks. once i build the binaries, where do they go?
[00:39] <michael__> Beldar: My nick is registered
[00:39] <andresmh> do i copy them in some special driver directory?
[00:39] <andresmh> or does the makefile do that automatically?
[00:39] <michael__> The ##linux channel wants an additional registration at http://linuxassist.net/irc, which gives a 404 (Not found)
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: then log in
[00:39] <Beldar> michael__, Hmm, not sure I just got on ##linux I'm registered as well.
[00:39] <k1l> michael__: login into your freenode account. for questions ask in #freenode
[00:39] <TJ-> andresmh: You'll need to install git "sudo apt-get install git" and then do "git clone https://github.com/hitmoon/mt7601u.git" and then "cd mt7601u" and then read the instructions carefully in "README_STA_usb"
[00:40] <michael__> I am logged int freenode
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: you ar not logged in as a registered user right now
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: then log in
[00:40] <michael__> I am
[00:40] <k1l> michael__: you are not
[00:40] <michael__> Um, yes I am
[00:40] <michael__> I did /msg NickServ identify ******* to use the nick michael__
[00:40] <k1l> michael__: no you are not. please ask in #freenode for more support on that freenode issue
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: you're not. we can /whois you. it states if you're loggin in and you're not
[00:41] <TJ-> andresmh: You'll need to ensure you have also done "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[00:41] <michael__> I've registered in the past
[00:41] <michael__> And have to enter my password in order to use my nick
[00:41] <Beldar> michael__, YOu have to login each tim you come on the irc, I have my irc client do it automatically.
[00:41] <michael__> How am I not logged in?
[00:41] <michael__> Beldar: I do
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> michael__: maybe you registration has expired. it expires if you don't log in for 6 weeks
[00:42] <michael__> hitsujiTMO: I log in almost every day, as with a few minutes ago
[00:42] <k1l> michael__: please ask in #freenode they can explain that to you
[00:42] <xangua> hitsujiTMO: it does¿
[00:43] <xangua> ooh 6 weeks, read 6 days
[00:43] <TJ-> andresmh: I warn you now, those instructions are messy, complicated, and totally *not* the Linux way of doing things!
[00:43] <rww> hitsujiTMO: erm, no it doesn't
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> xangua: oooh 10 weeks now sorry, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userexpirations
[00:44] <rww> 1) it's never been less than 10 weeks, 2) that's on request manually, not automatically
[00:44] <andresmh> TJ-: grr :(
[00:44] <rww> anyways
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> rww might be confising with another network on those specifics
[00:45] <michael__> From freenode.net: "We consider IRC nicks expired after they have not been used for 10 weeks plus (at staffer discretion) one additional week per full year of registration, up to a maximum of five additional weeks. Nicks which are at least two weeks old and which were last used less than two hours after their creation are also considered to be expired."
[00:45] <k1l> michael__: please put that issue into #freenode channel.
[00:45] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, was that supposed to boot the latest kernel version?
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: is it still 14?
[00:46] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Heh, nothing like a pile on as if your mention made you jack the ripper eh.
[00:46] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, yes
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: :)
[00:46] <dougl> uname -r
[00:46] <dougl> 3.11.0-14-generic
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg again
[00:48] <dougl> hitsujiTMO,
[00:48] <dougl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6706494/
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> dous:
[00:53] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, 3.11.0-14-generic is what is booting even after I changed it in settings
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: when you boot, is it the grub for kubuntu 13.04 that gets loaded?
[00:54] <denysonique>  I want to make a deb package of ready binaries of na open source project. Should I fetch the bins manually before running debuild or should I do the fetching in debian/rules?
[00:55] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, err - probably, right ?
[00:55] <TJ-> denysonique: If the binaries are open-source then the package (or one of its dependencies) should build them
[00:56] <denysonique> TJ-: I don't have makefiles for it
[00:56] <denysonique> actually, for hosting it on a PPA it must be built from source on the server, since no binaries are allowed, is this correct?
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: that may beed to be updated independently. boot kubuntu 13.04. from there run: sudo update-grub             then restart
[00:56] <TJ-> denysonique: Then the way to handle it is to include a script in the source package that gets installed and run (postinst script probably) to fetch the files when the user installs your package
[00:57] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, gotcha thanks brb
[00:57] <TJ-> denysonique: See for example the flashplugin-installer
[00:58] <denysonique> TJ-: why cannot the fetching be done in the source package and the bins as the result distributed in the binary package?
[00:59] <michael__> How do I install libguestfs in Ubuntu 13.04?  The website only has instructions for 12.04, and even those are unclear
[01:00] <james__> Hello I have a quick question. In the terminal when i type su I put in my password and it says authentication failure, but I am the owner and only user of this computer. How can I fix this?
[01:00] <rww> !sudo
[01:02] <james__> ubottu, I know it's for root, I want to run as root.
[01:03] <k1l> james__: please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo and see that there is no root account enabled
[01:03] <TJ-> denysonique: It's a policy issue; Binaries are opaque. What happens if the user requests the source-code as they are entitled to but the original source doesn't provide it, or the original source disappears?
[01:04] <TJ-> denysonique: Check the copyright license; if it is (L)GPL then you have an obligation to provide the source-code
[01:04] <denysonique> TJ-: anyway, I am going to try to write debian/rules for it to build from source
[01:08] <TJ-> denysonique: If you plan in including binaries you can't use PPA; see the licensing at https://help.launchpad.net/Legal/ProjectLicensing
[01:08] <yusuf> .,l
[01:09] <james__> i am trying to make a new folder in / and when i right click new folder is grayed out. how can i make a new one? do I have to do it in the terminal
[01:10] <gordonjcp> james__: you probably don't have permission to write to /
[01:10] <gordonjcp> james__: why do you want to make a new directory there?
[01:10] <civpro2> hello, i just installed ubuntu and i need to get my video cards working
[01:11] <civpro2> i have 2 r9 290x's
[01:11] <civpro2> could someone let me know the command to do this please?
[01:13] <civpro2> hawaii is what gets picked up
[01:14] <civpro2> anyone here?
[01:20] <hipitihop> I'm on 12.04.3 and would like to manually upgrade to latest alsa, i.e. > 1.0.25 or equivalent to what is in 13.10, anyone have  a link or prepared to step me through ?
[01:20] <Beldar> hipitihop, I would wait for 14.04 in april or just go up one by ine to 13.10 or fresh install.
[01:22] <hipitihop> Beldar, "up by ine ..." ?
[01:22] <Beldar> hipitihop, If that alsa is imperative check ppa's and be aware not that support here for ppa's in general. read carefully the word syntax we do make errors one by one.
[01:25] <Beldar> I try to make correct sentences and spell everything right, however this is not my grad work so uh you know.
[01:25] <darshan> Oh
[01:25] <darshan> hi
[01:26] <asd> hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor
[01:26] <hipitihop> Beldar, this is a continuation from a marathon yesterday with glint* here who helped me discount my issue being a kernel one, i.e. I'm now on "3.11.0-15-generic #23~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 10 16:39:48 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" and problem with usb attached headset persists. which PPA are you proposing
[01:27] <asd> btw im in recovery mod and it works fine (exept resolution is lower and i cant set it up higher)
[01:27] <Beldar> hipitihop, No idea, that is your job to research, technically ppa's are not supported here.
[01:28] <asd> hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor
[01:29] <asd> what should i do???
[01:30] <hipitihop> Beldar, do you suggest I just upgrade to 13.10 from 12.04.3 ?
[01:30] <unamed> hi, hipitihop why haven you wait for 14.04
[01:31] <Beldar> hipitihop, I don't know your issues, so without I would suggest a dual boot to see if 13.10 fixes the issues.
[01:31] <asd>  hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor, so what should i do??????
[01:32] <hipitihop> unamed, That would mean waiting till April to use a new Sennheiser USB heaset :-(
[01:32] <Beldar> hipitihop, I'm biased here however I never upgrade the releases I can install and have the same in about 1/4 the time even with a fairly fast internet speed.
[01:33] <Blackshear> Im tryin to setup a linksys usb wireless adapter, the cd will not autorun, the manual suggests using windows run, what in ubuntu is similar to "run"?
[01:34] <hipitihop> Beldar, sure, I understand, but this is a dev machine for day to day work, which is normally why I err on the side of caution and use the LTS versions, but I also do not want to start from scratch on a dual boot or a vm
[01:34] <Beldar> Blackshear, YOu sure you need to run the cd, does it not work?
[01:34] <Blackshear> well the instructions say to install the  cd first
[01:35] <Blackshear> then plug the usb adapter in when prompted
[01:35] <kerneld> whats the infobot called?
[01:35] <unamed> blackshear with the new version of ubuntu the usb mode-switch is included by default if your driver is recognized no need to install your cd
[01:35] <Beldar> hipitihop, Sure, however you do not know if 13.10 is the answer, and a upgarde to it will take awhile and could beak, so you have to think you way through this IE what is most prudent and easiest to consider.
[01:35] <unamed> got to your network configuration applet to see if your system detect your mobile brand provider network
[01:36] <Blackshear> ok
[01:36] <hipitihop> Beldar, btw, yesterdays machinations indeed confirmed with a live cd of 13.10 that it resolved my issues, we thought since alsa does a majority in kernel, we tried thatt route, with insuing nvidia issues, but alas did not solve the headset issue.
[01:36] <mrrcp> Blackshear you should not need CD
[01:36] <mrrcp> it wont work either way
[01:36] <Blackshear> t wont?
[01:36] <Blackshear> why
[01:36] <mrrcp> Well.. It will not auto run
[01:36] <unamed> no need it should work
[01:36] <Blackshear> ok
[01:36] <unamed> insert your usb  and wait
[01:37] <kerneld> !win2-7
[01:37] <asd>  hi, so i have a problem with booting up on ubuntu(latest version), i log in it and then display only output is a picture that looks like broken monitor
[01:38] <Beldar> hipitihop, Live cd's are kinda a anomaly there are drivers there that get things working when some find not there on install that one has to look for. If you are using a working live 13,10 as your base see if a working live 12.04.3 does the same. In other words a somewhat scientific inquiry approach.
[01:39] <Beldar> asd, Fresh install and has it ever worked?
[01:40] <unamed> Beldar ?? you may ask if he checked the integrity of the iso???
[01:40] <knightshade> hi
[01:40] <Beldar> unamed, Dude I have over 12,000 post on the ubuntu forums and 1000's here and about 8 years of linux use thanks
[01:41] <hipitihop> Beldar,  well pity one can't rely on livecd being definitive, I thought that was somewhat the point, anyway worth a shot finding a 12.04 livecd I guess
[01:41] <Beldar> unamed, In other words talk to the user not me.
[01:42] <unamed> @beldar,  we are for open knowledge don't forget, i am just helping
[01:44] <Beldar> unamed, Right but addressing me like that is offensive to me, if we were into a investigation further and I had missed that I would say thnks for the help. We all do this in different ways, so don;t be so quick to direct another helper is all.
[01:45] <Beldar> unamed, As well we don't use @ here we can tab complete nicks, nevertheless thanks for being here to help.
[01:45] <hipitihop> is there a way to tell what version a livecd is by inspecting the usb drive it is on other then booting from it ?
[01:46] <Beldar> hipitihop, I have a multiloader it has the iso and files there open it and look
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys is there any special method for installing Ubuntu Server on a raid 5 system with 3 hard drives?
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> slash is there a specific guide dfor getting ubuntu on a raid system
[01:48] <knightshade> hipitihop: mount it and open the file /etc/issue on the drive
[01:48] <rww> Psil0Cybin: hardware raid or software raid
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> Hardware
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> 3 hard drives
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> i want to set up ubuntu server
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> to use all hard drives
[01:49] <rww> Psil0Cybin: raid card supported by Linux?
[01:49] <rww> if it's hardware raid, Ubuntu just sees one hard drive...
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> oh sdoes it
[01:49] <rww> and you do the configuration in your raid controller
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect the guys at the store made it seem complicated
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> they said with windows it would recognize it but with linux
[01:49] <Psil0Cybin> id have to configure it lol
[01:49] <knightshade> !raid | Psil0Cybin
[01:49] <Beldar> hipitihop, I think most here try to as definitive as possible, however these processes generally have so many variables it can be difficult to do that.
[01:50] <Ca11um> I have just added a user to a group that has ownership/permission to a specific directory, but after adding the user, they do not. How can I give the new user the same access?
[01:50] <rww> Ca11um: did the user log out and back in?
[01:50] <rww> oh
[01:50] <Psil0Cybin> Alright thank you
[01:50] <Ca11um> rww, no, is that required?
[01:50] <Psil0Cybin> but if it shows up as just one hard drive, I should bei nthe clear?
[01:50] <rww> Ca11um: yes, group changes take effect in new login sessions only
[01:50] <Ca11um> rww: Thank you
[01:51] <Blackshear> how would i do the system ubdate that they reccommend during installation
[01:51] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: It depends on whether it is true hardware RAID, or what is called 'Fake' RAID. With fakeraid - dmraid is the driver - the underlying physical disks will show up as /dev/sdX nodes and the RAID array(s) will show up as device mapper entries under /dev/mapper/
[01:52] <Beldar> Blackshear, There is a box to tick in the install gui's
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> I will check in a few minutes
[01:52] <Beldar> 3rd party and upgrades
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> if its a hard ware raid, It should work? If i pop in the ubuntu disk?
[01:52] <knightshade> the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid should be added to the bot info
[01:53] <Y2KVet> What are the alternatives to rsync for backup?  Easy, simple, elegant count.
[01:53] <chaotix> heyy
[01:54] <Beldar> !backup
[01:54] <Beldar> Y2KVet, ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:54] <BlueProtoman> How can I use my Bluetooth gamepad as a controller on Ubuntu?
[01:54] <hipitihop> knightshade, thanks, but struggling to find /etc/issue maybe its because I tend to use unetbootin to produce the bootable usb stick
[01:54] <Y2KVet> Thanks!
[01:55] <Blackshear> bledar, i alreadt installed, but i didnt update during the installation
[01:55] <amy_> Hello, how can I get a Radeon HD 7520G card working in 13.10?
[01:55] <amy_> Its on a laptop.
[01:56] <Beldar> Blackshear, You can tab complete nicks, so that they are spelled correctly and they show up as red like this one does to you and notifies the user you answered them.
[01:56] <knightshade> hipitihop: just plug the usb drive in, open nautilus, click the usb drive, direct to the etc folder, click the issue file
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> knightshade: thank you guysa
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> I am going to tread the raid guides, and check it out and see hot it works.
[01:56] <Psil0Cybin> how it works*
[01:56] <knightshade> Psil0Cybin: you're welcome
[01:57] <Blackshear> Beldar, it doesnt show up red, so how would i do the system update
[01:58] <civpro2> i see a white x and a black screen after installing drivers for a r9 290x
[01:58] <civpro2> any advice?
[01:58] <mrrcp> Blackshear launch terminal
[01:58] <hipitihop> knightshade, thanks I know how to browse the drive, lets be clear, this is a bootable livecd on a usb stick we are talking about, I have dirs like boot, casper
[01:58] <mrrcp> sudo apt-get update
[01:58] <Beldar> Blackshear, Ah I Guess green at least here, but you get it. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal is a apt update
[01:58] <mrrcp> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:58] <Blackshear> nope everything is gray lol Beldar
[01:58] <civpro2> i am having a heck of a time with his video card
[01:59] <Beldar> Blackshear, Ah, if you use a cli irc that is the case, the point is for ease of travel you want the other to know you are answering the. Sometimes the posts fly in here is all.
[01:59] <civpro2> any help would be greatly appreciated
[01:59] <Beldar> them*
[01:59] <Blackshear> Beldar, yea no problem, thanks for the tip.
[02:00] <varunendra> Blackshear, what is the problem by the way that you expect to fix by updating?
[02:00] <knightshade> hipitihop: yeah, then it doesn't work
[02:00] <Beldar> civpro2, To the channel the exact details of what you have done and any relevant errors really help.
[02:00] <BlueProtoman> Is there any software for Linux that will let me map joystick buttons to keyboard keys?
[02:00] <Blackshear> no problem, i just want this thing installed correctly
[02:00] <Blackshear> varunendra,
[02:01] <TJ-> hipitihop: The file(s) you're looking for are inside the squashfs image, not in the ISO file-system
[02:01] <knightshade> hipitihop: do you have a dists folder on the drive?
[02:01] <hipitihop> knightshade, yes, just found that, that seems to give a hint :-)
[02:01] <civpro2> went to amd and picked out my video card
[02:01] <civpro2> downloaded the run file
[02:01] <civpro2> extracted it, and ran it
[02:01] <civpro2> i also tried flxgr-update
[02:01] <civpro2> or something like that
[02:01] <varunendra> Blackshear, once Ubuntu is installed and connected to internet, it will automatically detect recommended updates and will prompt you to install them. You just have to accept the installation (and the download of course).
[02:02] <knightshade> hipitihop: there should be a file dists/<release_name>/Release
[02:02] <Beldar> civpro2, Proprietary drivers are the last resort here and technically not supported is all.
[02:02] <civpro2> and i got an error saying monitors not supported
[02:02] <Blackshear> varunendra, ok then thats all i needed to know, thanks.
[02:02] <civpro2> beldar, if i get it reinstall i will
[02:02] <varunendra> Welcome :)
[02:02] <civpro2> whatever is the best way
[02:02] <civpro2> i would rather not though
[02:02] <hipitihop> knightshade, indeed, got it now, many thanks
[02:02] <civpro2> if possible
[02:02] <civpro2> which drivers are proprietary?
[02:03] <civpro2> the amd r9 290x?
[02:03] <knightshade> hipitihop: you're welcome
[02:03] <civpro2> beldar, how can i get this running without proprietary drivers please
[02:03] <Beldar> civpro2, Be careful not to use the enter key as punctuation and give relevant details is all, it is easy to get lost in the channel, especially if you have unusual or not real common hardware.
[02:04] <hipitihop> TJ-, thanks, no sign of squashfs but have found the version in /dists see discuss with knightshade
[02:04] <Beldar> civpro2, If I knew I would have suggested drivers. ;)
[02:04] <civpro2> Beldar, ok, what are the next steps
[02:05] <varunendra> civpro2, for AMD graphics, the "radeon" driver is open source, the rest (fglrx and others if there are any) are proprietary. There is no definitive list of 'proprietary drivers'.
[02:05] <Blackshear> do you guys reccommend getting clam-av, or is ubuntu fine without it
[02:05] <Beldar> civpro2, No idea, recognize that all I have said to you is info on getting help, and the norms of using proprietary drivers here, I have not indicated I can actually help with your issue.
[02:05] <unamed> i say no need Blackshear
[02:06] <Blackshear> i will probably be accessing some sketchy websites, that may try to install spyware and malware
[02:06]  * hipitihop reboots to 12.04 livecd to see if headset issue resolved as in 13.10 livecd
[02:06] <varunendra> Blackshear, Ubuntu itself is fine without it. It is meant to protect the Windows users from the viruses that may carry with files copied from Ubuntu.
[02:06] <unamed> Blackshear, haviing it may not kill you
[02:06] <civpro2> varunendra, i did try the run file first from amd, then i used other methods afterwards.  since on reboot it stated that the monitor was no supported in that resolution i read an article to delete the .config/monitors.xml file
[02:06] <Beldar> Blackshear, Not much of a danger in linux, but always use caution.
[02:06] <civpro2> i tried this but it did not work either, i believe it might be with the tv i am using.  i am using hdmi
[02:07] <varunendra> civpro2, I have no experience with graphics drivers, just provided the basic info I knew. But hang on, maybe someone more knowledgeable would be able to help..
[02:07] <civpro2> i am hearing alot of i shouldnt do this or that but not 1 suggestion yet on what i should do
[02:08] <civpro2> ok i will hang on, thanks
[02:08] <Beldar> Blackshear, Never run in root and strong passwords are a good start.
[02:08] <unamed> you know the name of your graphic cards civpro2
[02:08] <civpro2> unamed, yes r9 290x also known as hawaii
[02:09] <civpro2> unamed, also i have 2 video cards of the same type, i didnt want to leave that out
[02:10] <varunendra> civpro2, you can list your graphics card and driver by these commands : "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga" (for short info) and "sudo lshw -numeric -C display" (for detailed info)
[02:10] <Beldar> civpro2, THe only reason I said anything to you was I noticed a lack of any real pertinent details needed to get help here. This is to get you orientated to actually get help.
[02:10] <varunendra> ..and always use pastebin for posting multiline outputs :) civpro2
[02:12] <civpro2> Beldar, i understand, i did not take any offense to what you said
[02:12] <Beldar> ;)
[02:12] <civpro2> varunendra, that command is not working
[02:12] <varunendra> please show us the exact command you used civpro2
[02:13] <civpro2> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga
[02:13] <civpro2> varunendra, in response i get no such file or directory.... i did have to do alt-shit-f1 in order to get to command prompt
[02:14] <unamed> i send your a link civpro2
[02:14] <civpro2> thanks
[02:15] <varunendra> civpro2, the command looks fine to me. It is just the "lspci" command with some options, then grep is filtering the output, that's all. Can you just use "lspci" command ?
[02:18] <civpro2> unamed - varunendra, when i type in fglrxinfo i get unable to open display (null)
[02:19] <js111444> hello, I am using ubuntu 13.10, and want to disable a notification. A popup window appears when the pc is set to suspend automatically after X minutes  unused.  before it goed into suspended mode a window appears and remains there, even if the system starts back up...
[02:19] <js111444> it is listed as a minor bug, but no solution so far, anyone got an idea?
[02:20] <civpro2> it looks like i might of hosed this one
[02:20] <civpro2> going to reinstall
[02:21] <varunendra> js111444, no idea here, but maybe give us the link to the bug report to help us understand ?
[02:22] <varunendra> civpro2, not a bad idea if the installation is fresh and time is priority :)
[02:27] <js111444> i gues this is the link to the correct bug rapport...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1232454
[02:42] <BAMbanda> what does "i686" mean?
[02:42] <BAMbanda> I want to understand if I'm on 32-bit or 64-bit
[02:42] <dougl> how do I install grub in 13.10? I installed 13.10 along side 13.04 and 13.10 grub install fails so I used 13.04 grub to boot 13.10 now I need to update grub and I cannot get into 13.04?
[02:44] <somsip> BAMbanda: maybe this will help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I686 but this is a 64bit CPU
[02:45] <MyComputerIsGone> Um Hello, if anyone is out there
[02:45] <somsip> !anyone } MyComputerIsGone
[02:45] <somsip> !anyone | MyComputerIsGone
[02:45] <MyComputerIsGone> uh sure
[02:45] <munz> BAMbanda: uname -a
[02:46] <BAMbanda> munz, the output of that is: Linux x 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:36:13 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[02:46] <munz> x86_64 would be 64biy
[02:46] <munz> ahh ur 32
[02:46] <BAMbanda> so does that mean that I should download Linux x*6 version of Java
[02:47] <munz> yes
[02:47] <BAMbanda> ok thanks
[02:47] <munz> np
[02:47] <MyComputerIsGone> Does anyone know how to back up and fresh reinstall a 13.10 Ubuntu that I just dun goofed on with something like sudo apt-get purge wine*? The main problem (which otherwise this might be easy with) is that all resemblence of a gui has disappeared and all I can do is control alt f1 for the terminal...
[02:47] <munz> BAMbanda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:48] <Bashing-om> dougl: Whichever install is to be primary, from that primary "install grub" to the MBR and make sure os-prober is executable, ->update-grub should pick up the other install(s).
[02:48] <munz> or http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html
[02:48] <x_> MyComputerIsGone, so reinstall ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <x_> or something
[02:48] <MyComputerIsGone> yeah, I have tried.
[02:48] <MyComputerIsGone> It gives an error related to libreoffice-common
[02:49] <dougl> Bashing-om, sudo grub-install /dev/sda?
[02:49] <BAMbanda> munz, thank you
[02:49] <dougl> Bashing-om, source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory
[02:49] <munz> no prob
[02:49] <MyComputerIsGone> or rather something like "the following packages have unmet dependencies": libreoffice things
[02:50] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sudo apt-get install -f
[02:51] <DF3D2> err
[02:51] <DF3D2> hold on it's been a long time
[02:51] <MyComputerIsGone> no, that is what they suggested
[02:51] <MyComputerIsGone> and I did do that
[02:51] <DF3D2> hm
[02:51] <Beautiful^Girl> yeah its quite annoying, a wildcard purge will remove all the dependencies as well, maybe the ubuntu team could fix this
[02:51] <MyComputerIsGone> but it's like: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:52] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, might be easiest to just reinstall
[02:52] <DF3D2> gotta watch those wildcards
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> yes, that is what I'm trying to do =D
[02:52] <DF3D2> trying?
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> but
[02:52] <Bashing-om> dougl: sudo grub-install /dev/sda, yes; IF that primary install is on the sda drive. ... sounds like you are working from the liveDVD environment, yes ?
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> All I need to do is figure out how I can back up my files
[02:52] <MyComputerIsGone> if possible
[02:52] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, is /home on a seperate partition ?
[02:52] <somsip> MyComputerIsGone: you could go back through /var/log/apt/history.log and reinstall the packages removed in error, but it might be a tedious and fruitless attempt
[02:53] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I don't believe so
[02:53] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, well do you have some srt of usb flash drive?
[02:54] <dougl> Bashing-om, no I am in 13.10 on sda2 my first install is 13.04 on sdb1 that will not boot and I can loginto but dont know root pw
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, I do.
[02:54] <DF3D2> well copy stuff to that
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> I have no idea how to do that with only a terminal, sorry
[02:54] <DF3D2> okay go plug it in
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> yup
[02:54] <DF3D2> ill talk you through it
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> cool
[02:54] <MyComputerIsGone> thanks
[02:55] <dougl> Bashing-om, so it does actually boot but no desktop env or suid and I dont know root's pass
[02:55] <Beldar> dougl, Which release is at the top of the grub menu when you see it?
[02:55] <q0> why can't linux read UFS pendrives ?
[02:55] <Guest5041> How do I import settings from a .img file back up on an old Ubuntu install to a new install on a different machine?
[02:55] <dougl> 13.04
[02:55] <dougl> bel3atar,
[02:55] <dougl> Beldar,  13.04
[02:56] <Bashing-om> dougl: OK.. no sweat, what do you want for your primary operating system ? only one has control of what is to boot .
[02:56] <Daemoen> lo all.
[02:56] <Beldar> dougl, So 13.04 has the grub control running a grub-update in 13.10 will not do any good, what os the actual issue I logged in after you stated it?
[02:56] <dougl> 13.10
[02:56] <dougl> Beldar,
[02:56] <Beldar> is*
[02:56] <Daemoen> what is the best way of automating the partitioning part of debian installer
[02:56] <Daemoen> i really dont like having to do 18 partitions manually :|
[02:56] <MyComputerIsGone> Er DF3D2 whenever you're ready, I guess..
[02:56] <Daemoen>  especially on 25 machines
[02:56] <Beldar> Daemoen, Debian has a channel.
[02:57] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay type "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:57] <Daemoen> Beldar: wow?!  really?!  omfg thats amazing...
[02:57] <Beldar> !attitude | Daekdroom
[02:57] <q0> why can't linux read UFS pendrive with an image written in a unix system ? What is this compatibility problem "on purpose" ???
[02:57] <Bashing-om> dougl: By default root is locked in 'buntu, rarely is it ever ever required to enable that access. This is not one of those times and the means to do so is not discussed in open channels.
[02:57] <Beldar> !attitude | Daemoen do not swear here.
[02:57] <Daemoen> Beldar: last i checked, ubuntu is based on debian, it also has a server version, i would expect (even the volunteers) to be aware of the tools
[02:57] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, I see some information...reporting data and stuff
[02:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so how big is the flash drive?
[02:58] <Beldar> Daekdroom: Sorry wrong nick.
[02:58] <Daemoen> Beldar: i understand that, but telling someone to go to the debian channel when the question is related to ubuntu automation every bit as much as debian, sending me to debian seems like a pretty lazy response, unless there simply isnt the familiarity with the automation aspect of the ubuntu installer in here
[02:58] <MyComputerIsGone> I think it's 2 GB
[02:58] <MyComputerIsGone> but I believe it can hold the things I need it to...
[02:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, find the info that pretains to that device, like 2000gb drive /dev/sdb or some such
[02:58] <KI7MT> Daemoen, using preseed is an option you may be interested in.
[02:59] <dougl> nice
[02:59] <Daemoen> KI7MT: been working on that, the partitioning aspect of preseed seems.... convoluted and sloppy at best
[02:59] <Daemoen> was hoping that there *might* be something better for it somewhere
[02:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, such as this:
 dougl: OK.. no sweat, what do you want for your primary operating system ? only one has control of what i
[02:59] <possum_> hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan <IP_ADDRESS>/24. x is also connected to wlan1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z
[02:59] <DF3D2> err wtf?
[02:59] <possum_> effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x
[02:59] <Bashing-om> dougl: What are you wanting to boot up as the primary controlling system ?
[02:59] <possum_> to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. wtf is going on!!????
[02:59] <DF3D2> Bashing-om, desregard rogue paste
[02:59] <KI7MT> Daemoen, I think, if I recall, the one stipulation is that the sctipt has to use the whole disk.
[02:59] <DF3D2> disregard*
[03:00] <somsip> !wtf | possum_ DF3D2
[03:00] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, I believe it says /dev/sdb1 * "start":32 end: "4081663" Blocks "2040816" ID: 6 System FAT16.
[03:00] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, such as Disk /dev/sda: 180.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>56 bytes
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys trying to install ubuntu server from USBusing the startup disk creator but it keeps sayinhg its trying to moiunt a cd rom instead of booting frmo USB?
[03:00] <possum_> ok
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> is there an ISO made for USB Installs?
[03:00] <Beldar> DF3D2, The channle rules are no swearing or acronyms of please
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> that would not ask to mount a CD ROM
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> I am confused
[03:00] <possum_> PLEASE HELP
[03:00] <MyComputerIsGone> oh ok
[03:00] <MyComputerIsGone> Uh
[03:00] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay type "mkdir /media/usb1"
[03:01] <possum_> this is a LINUX MYSTERY
[03:01] <Daemoen> KI7MT: coming at this from a RH/C background, the ubuntu installer is downright infuriating; ubuntu has done a lot to bring linux awareness, but im amazed that the installer is still so lacking in usability
[03:01] <SchrodingersScat> possum_: linux moosetery
[03:01] <MyComputerIsGone> had to sudo that one, if that's ok, but done.
[03:01] <dougl> Beldar, the actual issue is sudo grub-install /dev/sda does not work<- is that what you were asking?
[03:01] <Daemoen> dont get me wrong, it is what it is, i can understand that, im just trying to find a way of making it work better =D
[03:01] <possum_> SchrodingersScat: DAMN U MYSTERY CAT
[03:01] <KI7MT> Daemoen, Landscape is really the enterprise solution, but not everyone wants to shell out for it.
[03:01] <Bashing-om> DF3D2: sorry bout that.. recon I failed to "look" at what I was adressing; haste makes waste !
[03:02] <somsip> possum_: you have a in-depth network query. All you're doing by adding worthless comments is scrolling it off the screen. Maybe prepare a pastebin with full details and post a link to that every 15 mins or so
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys trying to install ubuntu server from USBusing the startup disk creator but it keeps sayinhg its trying to moiunt a cd rom instead of booting frmo USB?
[03:02] <Beldar> dougl, You have to chroot to the install from a live cd to do that, no sudo there you are rooted.
[03:02] <Daemoen> KI7MT: yeah,  were a startup, half the time i cant even get clearance on switches, no way im going to get the go ahead on landscape... but i did just come up with an idea =D
[03:02] <somsip> !patience | Psil0Cybin
[03:02] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone,  "sudo chown yourusername:group /media/usb1" such as if your user is "joe" and group is "joe" then type sudo chown joe:joe /media/usb1
[03:02] <Daemoen> i can make at least 14 of the partitions using ansible and automation, i really only need to worry about the first disk in each system
[03:02] <possum_> thanks somsip
[03:02] <possum_> somsip: yeah its a mystery, but people dont like to click pastebins so i gave a precise summary
[03:03] <possum_> i even put some effort in to be concise
[03:03] <MyComputerIsGone> Complete, DF3D2
[03:03] <possum_> here it is again and then i will shut up
[03:03] <somsip> possum_: I do see people helping with those sorts of queries, but maybe easier if you have some concise text somewhere you can link to as it's a big post
[03:03] <possum_> hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan <IP_ADDRESS>/24. x is also connected to wlan1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z
[03:03] <possum_> effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x
[03:03] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay now where are the files you would like to copy located ?
[03:03] <possum_> to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. WHAT is going on!!????
[03:03] <MyComputerIsGone> they're all in home, I think
[03:04] <MyComputerIsGone> or at least in my user file
[03:04] <DF3D2> okay so then "cd /home/username"
[03:04] <DF3D2> or cd "~/"
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I have no CD DRIVE! I am trying to install ubuntu through USB the Server keeps asking for aCD
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> What do I Do?
[03:04] <MyComputerIsGone> Yup.
[03:04] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, now type "ls -al"
[03:05] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok
[03:05] <DF3D2> are the files you want in there ?
[03:05] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: stop spamming for a start. Have some patience. You can see it's busy here
[03:05] <varunendra> possum_, time to grasp things and respond back is short on IRC, especially when the channel is busy. Maybe try Ubuntu Forums (ubuntuforums.org)
[03:05] <possum_> :((((
[03:05] <dougl> Beldar, so boot live cd and "chroot /dev/sda2" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" I know the sudo pass for 13.10?
[03:05] <possum_> please help here
[03:05] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, I believe so
[03:05] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, well, you can see the files with "ls -al"
[03:05] <possum_> its not hard, just read it
[03:05] <possum_> you probably know the answer
[03:05] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, I can
[03:06] <MyComputerIsGone> they're there
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> PddOdd looks like theres no solution
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> ill try debian >< stinky ubuntu
[03:06] <dougl> possum_, read what?
[03:06] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: I find relevant results by searching for 'ubuntu server install usb asks for cd' on google. Maybe can can follow through some of these and see if they are helpful
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> i just did
[03:06] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, now you have several options but since the drive is only 2gb I don't want you to fill it up with non essential stuff.
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> lol you wanna know what the answer is
[03:06] <possum_> dougl: my question
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> try another program
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> every program gives me same result :P
[03:06] <Beldar> dougl, Yeah chroot to 13.10 no sudo just grub-install /dev/sda then update-grub
[03:06] <Psil0Cybin> I say try another ISO lol like debian...silly ubuntu
[03:06] <possum_> dougl: hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan <IP_ADDRESS>/24. x is also connected to wlan1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection sharing (z
[03:06] <possum_> effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also connect from x
[03:06] <MyComputerIsGone> Er...
[03:06] <possum_> to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. WHAT is going on!!????
[03:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, type "du -m ~/"
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> Wow, ok
[03:07] <knightshade> possum_: use pastebin!
[03:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, how many MB is it ?
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> yep, done!
[03:07] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: so you tried this too? http://www.mattkowalczyk.com/blog/?p=169
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> somsip:
[03:07] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1369628
[03:07] <possum_> ok :(
[03:07] <MyComputerIsGone> total? it seems to be 5067
[03:08] <MyComputerIsGone> well, they didn't give any units
[03:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay so it is too large to just rsync the entire directory you will need to copy the stuff you want manually
[03:08] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: I don't need links. You have the problem
[03:08] <MyComputerIsGone> but that's what I'm assuming
[03:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, -m specified megabytes :-)
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> where do you enter
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> that stuf somsip
[03:08] <dougl> possum_, nice alphabet... beyond me good luck
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> it says hit no and enter
[03:08] <Psil0Cybin> but i hit no and it takes me back to menu?
[03:08] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:08] <Beldar> !enter | MyComputerIsGone
[03:08] <MyComputerIsGone> yeah right....
[03:08] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: no it doesn't. Read the instructions
[03:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so you can do this cp -v "filename" /media/usb1
[03:08] <possum_> thanks still dougl
[03:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so you can do this cp -vR "directory" /media/usb1
[03:09] <MyComputerIsGone> ok DF3D2, I'll try and do this now
[03:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, tab will autocomplete file names also
[03:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so if you had /home/username/long file name you can type ~/lo<tab>
[03:10] <grahamsavage_> hello
[03:10] <grahamsavage_> every time i play videos in ubuntu i get these horizontal lines
[03:10] <somsip> grahamsavage_: what video card, what video player?
[03:11] <DF3D2> grahamsavage_, is it any video, or the same video file ?
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> somp
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> somsip: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/usb
[03:11] <grahamsavage_> any  video player (both vlc and youtube)
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> i get failed argument
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> at this step
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> step 2
[03:11] <Psil0Cybin> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/usb
[03:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <grahamsavage_> higher quality videos get more lines
[03:11] <grahamsavage_> video card is on-board intel something
[03:11] <DF3D2> Psil0Cybin, you need to specify a number such as /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2 "/dev/sdb" is an entire device
[03:11] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: where is your USB mounted? is it /dev/sdb?
[03:11] <DF3D2> use sudo fdisk -l
[03:12] <varunendra> Psil0Cybin, if you can compromise with a dirty workaround, install from the iso on a virtual-machine > clone the installation > restore on the physical disk. Sorry but if trying 'other' programs didn't help, and you've already verified the ISO integrity, this is all I can offer as a quick workaround
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> well ls /dev/sd*
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> gives me
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sda
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> and
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sdc
[03:12] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <DF3D2> Psil0Cybin, and sudo fdisk -l returns ?
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sdb and
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> bash
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> sudo not found
[03:13] <Psil0Cybin> im trying to install the server from usb...siugh
[03:14] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: and i've given you a page of instructions that you couldn't find yourself and that you can't follow the instructions correctly. Not sure how to help you now...
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> yea it wont help me with step two
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> step two just says ivalid argument if you follow commands
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> rls /dev/sd*
[03:14] <varunendra> Psil0Cybin, maybe start your own thread at ubuntu forums. The one you linked to is light years old :P
[03:14] <DF3D2> light years
[03:14] <DF3D2> :-)
[03:14] <Psil0Cybin> just says dev/sda sdb sdc
[03:14] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: replace /dev/sdb with the correct /dev/sd* that relates to your USB drive.
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> so just keep trying
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> till one works
[03:15] <DF3D2> Psil0Cybin, can you do fdisk -l ?
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> becasue it gievs me three.
[03:15] <DF3D2> without sudo ?
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> fdisk saysb ash no fdisk
[03:15] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:15] <Psil0Cybin> bin/sh fdisk not found
[03:15] <somsip> varunendra: if he's using 12.04 it will still apply (Psil0Cybin - is it 12.04?)
[03:16] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: try a more recent version, that has possibly more verbose instructions http://is.gd/AxBJ1I
[03:17] <DaemeonZane> hola folks. I have a quick question regarding the dist-upgrade flag for apt-get in 12.04
[03:18] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, working out for you?
[03:18] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, asking gets the answer
[03:18] <DaemeonZane> I just set up a fresh 12.04 install, and then ran the usual apt-get update, then went for the apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:18] <DaemeonZane> It went thru the usual install without failure, but when I reboot, it still shows me on 12.04
[03:18] <DaemeonZane> Any ideas on what I may have missed?
[03:18] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, dis-upgrade is a in release upgrade
[03:18] <Beldar> dist*
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> somsip:
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> i ran the commands
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> hit ALT + command
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> nothing happends
[03:19] <somsip> DaemeonZane: did you want to do-release-upgrade?
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> im still stuck on termianl before installing
[03:19] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:19] <Guest5041> How do I import settings from a .img file back up on an old Ubuntu install to a new install on a different machine?
[03:20] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I'm in progress and things seem to be going fine, thanks.
[03:20] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sweet
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> ugh forget it
[03:20] <DaemeonZane> aaaah... I think I may have misunderstood what I was running
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> uybutnu doesnt work on usub
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> lmao
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> i ran all commands, it just borks eiother the alt+f4 does nothing
[03:21] <Beldar> Guest5041, settings? through waht app did you set them?
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> or the commands do not work :I(
[03:21] <DaemeonZane> I thought the dist-upgrade was a complete distro overhaul, especially since a lot of the packages mentioned raring instead of precise
[03:21] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: given you cant even follow the bots instructions on not using Enter as punctuation, I'm not surprised you're struggling. Maybe you should take a break and try again later. I can't help you
[03:21] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, If you saw raring check the sources.list
[03:22] <fire> only presentation software for presenting powerpoint presentation ?
[03:22] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: what exactly would I be looking for, except Raring references?
[03:23] <somsip> !info loimpress | fire
[03:23] <somsip> !find loimpress | fire
[03:24] <somsip> fire: less helpful than I hoped. But use Libre Office Impress
[03:24] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, If you have just ran a dist-upgrade and not modified the sources list or mistakenly added raring repos there or in sources.list.d, you should not see raring, are you sure?
[03:24] <possum_> hi i have 3 machines x,y,z on the same lan <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via a switch. x is also connected to wlan1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r1 and public ip1. y,z are also connected to wlan2 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 with router r2 and public ip2. x,y are ubuntu machines with default installs and empty iptables (i didnt touch any network related stuff). z is a windows machine also running internet connection
[03:24] <possum_> sharing (z effectively being a nat between the lan and wlan2). routes are set so that x goes through r1 and y,z go through r2. i set port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to y while running 'nc -l 4444' on y. now im having trouble connecting from x to y running 'nc ip2 4444' on x, getting a timeout. i can smoothly connect from x to y targeting y's lan ip though, AND MOST BIZARRELY i can also
[03:24] <possum_> connect from x to z after setting port forwarding in r2 to forward 4444 to z and running 'nc -l 4444' on z and 'nc ip2 4444' on x. so it is not an isp filtering my stuff issue.. what is going on??
[03:24] <somsip> possum_: Use. Pastebin. Please.
[03:24] <chris429> hello, I am trying to share files between two linux computers on the same network, I can ping, but i dont see them in filebrowser
[03:25] <possum_> ok somsip :>
[03:25] <possum_> somsip: but please also help me :(
[03:25] <somsip> chris429: explain how you set it up
[03:25] <somsip> possum_: you need an network expert. I am not one
[03:25] <possum_> ok
[03:25] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: There  aren't any references to Raring in my sources.list (I hadn't modded it before the dist-upgrade command was run) but I saw quite a few packages getting installed that mentioned raring in detail
[03:26] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, Detail, in a apt-get upgrade?
[03:26] <chris429> somsip: both computers have the same version of linux, and the same username, password, everything, both have internet, and both can ping eachother
[03:26] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin it.
[03:26] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: Let's put it this way, in the almost 250 packages that got installed, I saw Raring on about half of them
[03:27] <somsip> chris429: and what are you using to connect to each other? NFS, Samba, SSH?
[03:27] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I believe i'm ready for the next part, if you are
[03:27] <chris429> Nemo
[03:27] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, you got everything copied over?
[03:28] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: Also, it just ran with 0 installed, removed, or upgraded when I ran it a second ago
[03:28] <chris429> somsip: samba
[03:28] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, make double sure
[03:28] <MyComputerIsGone> I'm good, I think.
[03:29] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, so now you need to reinstall ubuntu right? do you have an install cd or another usb drive to make a bootable install ?
[03:29] <varunendra> possum_, you may try the networking channel ##networking
[03:29] <somsip> chris429: I don't know what Nemo is. Try using the full path to the machine in the address bar of the file browser, eg: smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[03:29] <fire> which presenation software to use to present powerpoint presenation ?
[03:29] <somsip> fire: Libre Office Impress
[03:29] <possum_> varunendra: i already tried there :(
[03:29] <possum_> they dont know either
[03:29] <possum_> we suspect it is an ubuntu issue
[03:30] <MyComputerIsGone> unfortunately, I don't have a disk of any sort.
[03:30] <chris429> somsip: okay, i think i got it now, thank you somsip for pointing me on the right track, i made a silly mistake
[03:30] <somsip> chris429: np
[03:30] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay so do you have another machine in the house ?
[03:30] <MyComputerIsGone> yes, a couple.
[03:30] <DF3D2> okay go copy the files off that usb stick to one of those
[03:30] <DF3D2> and come back when you are ready
[03:31] <varunendra> possum_, like I mentioned earlier, maybe try ubuntuforums. We do have some good users there who may have first hand experience of this kind of setup
[03:31] <possum_> ok
[03:33] <MyComputerIsGone> Uh, sorry, DF3D2. After copying the necessary files to the /media/usb1 folder, I don't believe that they have actually been transferred to the usb itself.
[03:33] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, If you run the update as I suggested ands pastebin it I can see if there is any anomaly
[03:33] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: Like I said, I just did, it didn't return anything except that there wasn't anything to return
[03:34] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, yeah because I don't think I told you to mount it... :-( fail my bad
[03:34] <MyComputerIsGone> oh, don't worry about it
[03:34] <MyComputerIsGone> so uh
[03:34] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay so do this, cp /media/usb1 ~/
[03:35] <DF3D2> confirm the files are in ~/usb1 with "ls -al ~/usb1"
[03:35] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: I'm running sudo do-release-upgrade -d now.... and it's putting me up to trusty. I think I may have just misunderstood the difference between it and apt-get dist-upgrade.
[03:36] <hipitihop_> Beldar, this is on livecd 12.04.3 and indeed the usb headset works out of the box, aalsa baseso it seems you were right re livecd not being conclusive
[03:36] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, done.
[03:36] <DaemeonZane> After I upgrade to trusty I'll just run the usual clean out of broken and old dependencies, see what's up
[03:36] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, confirmed files are in ~/usb1 ?
[03:37] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, You claimed to see raring, this makes no sense, so what I asked for was some evidence so we could find out whats up. May I suggest to to some extent follow simple requests and ask if you don;t understand rather than assume your answer makes any sense in the least.
[03:37] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, that's correct, they are
[03:37] <somsip> DaemeonZane: I'm just wondering why you didn't install the daily build for trusty insteasd of going down the path you have
[03:38] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb1 && cp -vR ~/usb1 /media/usb1
[03:38] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, that should copy them sorry I forgot to have you actually mount it before ~_~
[03:38] <DaemeonZane> Somsip: Like I said, I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, thinking I'd wind up with the newest LTS distro, but apparently I just updated 12.04 like Beldar thought.
[03:39] <DaemeonZane> Beldar: I ran the commands you suggested, Sir, and I told you, I returned that there were simply no updates available at that point
[03:39] <somsip> DaemeonZane: yes. That's what dist-upgrade does. Maybe a clean install of the trusty daily build will be the easiest path for you, though unsuported here so I'll shut up now
[03:39] <DaemeonZane> I can't exactly force downgrade and re-run to show you what I mean
[03:39] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, I was not looking for updates I wanted to see the repos called.
[03:40] <varunendra> DaemeonZane, "do-release-upgrade" is the command for what you wanted. Not that I'm recommending it though ;)
[03:41] <DaemeonZane> lol varunendra I just ran it, though I told it NOT to do the upgrade
[03:41] <DaemeonZane> And it appears, Beldar, that when running said command, I return nothing but precise sources
[03:42] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, Cool, thats all I was trying to confirm.
[03:42] <DaemeonZane> Why, by the way, would do-release-upgrade to trusty not be supported or recommended?
[03:42] <DaemeonZane> Just curious
[03:42] <hipitihop_> Beldar, so at this point as per your inference, there is no guarantee that updating from my installed 12.04.3 to 13.10 will solve my usb headset being correctly detected. Is there anything straight forward I can run from this 12.04.3 live to compare against my installed one ?
[03:43] <DaemeonZane> Just that it's pretty new, or what?
[03:43] <Beldar> DaemeonZane, Trusty is in development, not released yet
[03:43] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I'm getting a mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/usb1 busy
[03:43] <somsip> DaemeonZane: some people have no problems with upgrading. Others have problems. It's probably cleaner to reinstall. It's not unsupported, just personal preference
[03:43] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, what does the command "mount" show ?
[03:43] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, make sure you aren't in /media/usb1 when you ran that command either
[03:44] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, cd ~/ and re run it
[03:44] <DaemeonZane> Ah... right on. Yeah, I was planning on setting up an Android build environment, and found out some of the packages were having issues installing in 12.04, but saw that a lot of those issues were ironed out in 13.04 and 13.10, so I thought I'd be getting one of those when I ran the apt-get dist-upgrade command. That's what I get for thinking lol
[03:45] <MyComputerIsGone> there are two notices after reruning it (the same as before): the one i just mentioned and another, according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/usb1
[03:45] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Not sure really, you may have done this already but I would look on the web for this sennheiser and 12.04 or ubuntu in general, askubuntu has a a lot of threads, and you may not be the only person in this delimma.
[03:45] <Beldar> dilemma*
[03:46] <MyComputerIsGone> also the very first time I ran it, it said cp: cannot create director '/media/usb1/usb1': Permisson denied
[03:46] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, ls -al /media/usb1
[03:46] <DF3D2> you sure the files aren't on it ?
[03:46] <Beldar> hipitihop_, I would make a threa at the ubuntu forums as well probably.
[03:46] <MyComputerIsGone> yes, interestingly enough there is nothing there
[03:46] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, this is odd
[03:46] <DaemeonZane> I'll probably just hose the 12.04 and do a fresh install of the 13 LTS
[03:47] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, try "sudo cp -Rv ~/usb1 /media/usb1
[03:47] <DF3D2> and then do ls -al /media/usb1
[03:47] <DF3D2> It seems to be mounted correctly
[03:48] <hipitihop_> Beldar, yes done already, followed and tried those threads and the ubuntu sound troubleshooting steps, only thing not tried is to do a manual build of latest alsa, but since this livecd shows same versions of alsa-base & -tools i.e. 1.0.25 then issue must be elsewhere
[03:48] <xangua> DaemeonZane: neither ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10 are LTS
[03:48] <MyComputerIsGone> and again with the "." and ".." but nothing else, unfortunately
[03:48] <MyComputerIsGone> oh wait
[03:48] <DaemeonZane> ????
[03:49] <DaemeonZane> No lie... hmmm
[03:49] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, try just ls -l
[03:49] <MyComputerIsGone> Sorry, this time there is a usb1 folder in there as well, is that what we were going for
[03:49] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Ah, well there may be users who know but did not make a thread to get it working, but may answer a thread you make, so this seems like an option
[03:49] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, some odd reason doing ls -al doesn't seem to work the way it should on my system either
[03:50] <DF3D2> it makes it not show everything when it should
[03:50] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes, now I see all the files DF3D2
[03:50] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, sorry about that but I swear it is a bug
[03:50] <DaemeonZane> It's been a long time since I've messed with Ubuntu at all. I've been on Mint because of work
[03:50] <hipitihop_> Beldar, yup, done that too and filed as bug
[03:50] <DF3D2> isnt ls -al supposed to show everything?
[03:50] <DF3D2> very odd
[03:51] <MyComputerIsGone> That's what I had heard...it's ok, don't worry about it. So, does everything else seem to be in order now?
[03:51] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay well now you can unmount the drive then "sudo umount /media/usb1" or sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[03:51] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Cool, hope you get it resolved, seems possible if the phones work on the live environments.
[03:51] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, yea unmount it and then go copy the files
[03:52] <Beldar> hipitihop_ you can bump threads every 24 hors at the forums, so be sure to do that to get it on the list.
[03:53] <MyComputerIsGone> Ok, the files seem to all be there on the other machine!
[03:53] <hipitihop_> Beldar, thanks, I'll poke about a little more while I have this livecd botted to try and compare diffs with installed, then will boot back to installed and add more comments re this experiment
[03:53] <xangua> How can I create a PDF out of images? or add Images as pages to one existing PDF?
[03:53] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, cool so we need to make a bootable iso again, plug that drive back in to this machine
[03:54] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, dont mount it though it isn't necessary
[03:55] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, I'm ready.
[03:56] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, okay sudo apt-get install wget
[03:56] <Beldar> xangua, Maybe libreoffice to a pdf, probably not the most elegant way.
[03:56] <MyComputerIsGone> oh no
[03:57] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, not sure if I mentioned this to you at the beginning, but there was this whole thing with the unmet dependencies and such with libreoffice that prevents me from downloading anything even after an -f thingy
[03:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, do you have wget installed already?
[03:58] <nitk> can anyone help me out in blocking traceroute utility using iptables?
[03:58] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, type wget
[03:58] <anonymous__> Hello
[03:59] <MyComputerIsGone> DF3D2, wget: missing URL  + type wget --help seems to suggest that I have it.
[03:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, good!
[03:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, is this a 64bit machine ?
[03:59] <MyComputerIsGone> Yes it is.
[03:59] <DF3D2> perfect
[03:59] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, desktop?
[04:00] <MyComputerIsGone> laptop, System 76
[04:00] <DF3D2> Idk what system 76 means
[04:00] <DF3D2> do you want Ubuntu Xubuntu Or Lubuntu ?
[04:00] <MyComputerIsGone> oh uh sorry that's the brand name. Ubuntu please.
[04:00] <SneakyTheBeaver> Hello guys, I'm trying to find my network adapter drivers on ubuntu, can someone help me find them ?
[04:00] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, cd ~/ && wget http://mirror.lstn.net/ubuntu-releases/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:01] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: for what adapter?
[04:01] <SneakyTheBeaver> I don't know =\
[04:01] <hipitihop_> it seems I don't have rights from livecd to drill down into home folders on my installed drive, what is the correct way from livecd
[04:01] <dougl> g'night ladies and gents thanks again for the help :)
[04:01] <SneakyTheBeaver> I have windows on my hdd and ubuntu on my ssd and windows can't find the drivers so I thought I'd take the drivers I have on ubuntu which allow me to connect to the internet and put them on windows
[04:02] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: poste the output of 'sudo lshw -c network' to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:02] <MyComputerIsGone> Hm, DF3D2, it seems to be going at a pace that will end in 5 hours. is this the last step in the process?
[04:02] <SneakyTheBeaver> PCI (sysfs)
[04:02] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, is your internet slow or is that mirror slow ?
[04:02] <somsip> !pastebin | SneakyTheBeaver
[04:03] <MyComputerIsGone> Hm, well my computer is rather new so I don't see how it could be the computer.
[04:03] <SneakyTheBeaver> pastebin.com/djqemQbd
[04:03] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, I mean your internet bandwidth
[04:03] <DF3D2> is it a fast connection or not?
[04:04] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: I have that and it works out of the box for me. What is the problem?
[04:04] <SneakyTheBeaver> I am trying to get it to work on windows
[04:04] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, if you think the problem is that mirror you can hit ctrl+c to cancel it and try with this... wget http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/13.10/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:04] <somsip> SneakyTheBeaver: go to ##windows then. Bye
[04:04] <SneakyTheBeaver> and it says no drivers fond
[04:04] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Have you looked at lsusb with the phines plugged to see hardware info for your searches?
[04:04] <Beldar> phones*
[04:04] <SneakyTheBeaver> somsip don't be like that, I said I am trying to find the ubuntu drivers
[04:04] <MyComputerIsGone> According to family sources the internet is "fine"...
[04:05] <SneakyTheBeaver> because windows doesn't have them
[04:05] <SneakyTheBeaver> Can you help me find the drivers so I can put them on the windows harddrive?
[04:05] <hipitihop_> Beldar, yes, its the same as my installed
[04:05] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, well try the other mirror I gave you, it is listed as 10gbps connection so if it takes 5 hrs also then it would be based on your internet speed
[04:05] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Cool, at tomes it takes a closer look is all.
[04:05] <Beldar> times*
[04:06] <SneakyTheBeaver> anyone know where drivers for network adapters are stored on ubuntu 13.1?
[04:06] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, anyway write this down ... when you get the iso file, you want to do "sudo dd if=/home/username/filename.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M"
[04:06] <MyComputerIsGone> I'd say 33 minutes is a pretty good improvement, DF3D2 =)
[04:07] <Ira_L> Does anyone know of a new laptop on which it is easily possible to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8.1?
[04:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, make sure with sudo fdisk -l ur drive is still /dev/sdb
[04:07] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, DO NOT mix up the "if" and "of" sections
[04:07] <DF3D2> total failure if so.
[04:07] <SneakyTheBeaver> anyone?
[04:08] <DF3D2> noone
[04:08] <nitk> can anyone help me out in blocking traceroute utility using iptables?
[04:08] <Beldar> Ira_L, Not really a channel issue and really a poll which is not allowed.
[04:08] <SneakyTheBeaver> nobody knows where network adapter drivers are stored?
[04:08] <DF3D2> SneakyTheBeaver, in the krnel
[04:08] <DF3D2> SneakyTheBeaver, they are kernel modules
[04:08] <MyComputerIsGone> Hm, I see.
[04:08] <pvl1> !modules | SneakyTheBeaver
[04:08] <Bashing-om> SneakyTheBeaver: cross platforms does not work ! Drivers used in 'buntu will not be installable/usable in Windows.
[04:08] <SneakyTheBeaver> oh :(
[04:08] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, after that you can simply reboot the computer and in the bios select the USB drive as the first boot option
[04:09] <DF3D2> and install ubuntu
[04:09] <aaaaa> I have a question about installing ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[04:09] <somsip> !ask | aaaaa
[04:09] <MyComputerIsGone> Thank you very much, DF3D2.
[04:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, it will take a little while to run the DD command so just let it go until it is done it will say something about it copied X Mb in X time or something
[04:09] <Beldar> Ira_L, Here is a certified link, but many work that are not listed, I have both on my toshiba, but it is a msdos no uefi. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[04:09] <MyComputerIsGone> Might I ask, did you know all that from memory?
[04:09] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, yes :-)
[04:10] <MyComputerIsGone> Cool!
[04:10] <MyComputerIsGone> Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
[04:10] <DF3D2> I've been on linux on and off for 10-15 years
[04:10] <DF3D2> yep ill be on for a bit feel free to ask if you need any help
[04:10] <pvl1> !ask | aaaaa
[04:10] <aaaaa> I'm installing ubuntu on a laptop, and the laptop already had an operating system installed. I partitioned the hard drive so that there was only one partition: that of the original operating system, and then some free space. I installed ubuntu and checked the box that read "install along my current operating system", and was wondering if that means that ubuntu will install in the free space on my hard drive?
[04:11] <pvl1> aaaaa: yes
[04:11] <DF3D2> MyComputerIsGone, for the record none of that is high level stuff -- im no linux expert by any means but I get around OK.
[04:11] <aaaaa> alright, thanks pvll
[04:11] <aaaaa> or, pvl1
[04:11] <pvl1> no problem aaaaa just be sure you have enough room for ubunut
[04:12] <hipitihop_> Beldar, understand. The puzzling thing is lsusb and dmesg seem to produce same output from both the live and my installed 12.04.3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707166/
[04:12] <ronisha> what software package can I use to fill out a pdf form?
[04:13] <nitk> How to block traceroute utility using iptables? (ICMP)
[04:13] <ronisha> nitk: iptables -A INPUT -t ICMP -j REJECT or something like that
[04:14] <DF3D2> does anyone else have an issue where no kernel after .12 works with usb mice/kbs ?
[04:14] <DF3D2> I cant use anything but .12 or I have a total lack of mouse/kb functionality
[04:14] <pvl1> nitk: please ask in #networking
[04:14] <DF3D2> nitk, im sure you can google that pretty easily
[04:14] <ronisha> nitk: or google it :)
[04:14] <DF3D2> ^
[04:15] <erghadz> hello again,,,  Is anyone here familiar with synchronizing to a public time server with openelec?
[04:15] <nitk> ronisha: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type 8 -j DROP. I used this, but didn't work
[04:15] <erghadz> I don't know how to do it.
[04:16] <ronisha> nitk: try leaving out the --icmp-type part
[04:16] <ronisha> nitk: and don't drop, try rejecting
[04:16] <somsip> !ntp | erghadz
[04:16] <xentity1x> hi, i just upgraded to 13.10 now when i try to to load a bin file with pcsx the program crashes, anyone know why?
[04:16] <somsip> erghadz: hang on...openelec? You need the openelec support channel
[04:17] <erghadz> somsip: they're all dead
[04:17] <erghadz> somsip: I tried that first, then I tried #linux
[04:17] <somsip> erghadz: it's not something we suport here. The openelec forums are very active. Maybe try searching there
[04:17] <erghadz> maybe I typo'd
[04:18] <ronisha> what ubuntu package can I use to edit pdf for? (I need to fill a form out and email it back)
[04:18] <erghadz> somsip: I have... I dunno if I am just searching wrong
[04:18] <xentity1x> hi, i just upgraded to 13.10 now when i try to to load a bin file with pcsx the program crashes, anyone know why?
[04:18] <nitk> ronisha: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j REJECT. Doesn't work..!!
[04:19] <DF3D2> ronisha, rejecting lets someone know you exist though
[04:19] <somsip> xentity1x: with what error?
[04:19] <DF3D2> better to just drop I think?
[04:19] <ronisha> nitk: google my friend, I'm not sure im just going off quick memory
[04:19] <pvl1> xentity1x: run with     -psxout
[04:19] <ronisha> DF3D2: I thought it was the other way around :)
[04:19] <DF3D2> ronisha, maybe not sure entirely
[04:19] <DF3D2> :-P
[04:20] <xentity1x> somsip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707202/
[04:21] <nitk> From last 24hrs..I'm struggling for it. I did all the possible ways. Hope you will help me in this..
[04:21] <Beldar> hipitihop_, The lsusb should be basically the same, as a guess the dmesg might have differentials depending on some variables, command, kernels and drivers...etc.
[04:21] <somsip> xentity1x: so there is a bug in the program according to that. You should report it as an issue to the author. However, it might be worth updating pcsx first. This might help on 13.10 (assuming you use the same PPA) http://is.gd/PTp9ly
[04:22] <Beldar> dmesg is not something I ever really use have npt really needed it myself, hipitihop_ I learn what I need basically.
[04:22] <Beldar> not*
[04:25] <Cheryl_c_> I have ubuntu 14.o4
[04:25] <somsip> !14.04 | Cheryl_c_
[04:26] <Cheryl_c_> When I try to use the Ubuntu 14.4 software center it hangs up the computer. I have to reboot to get out of it.  Any suggestions would be helpful
[04:26] <ses1984> i tried to get nvidia proprietary drivers running on my system, now i just get a black screen
[04:27] <ses1984> if i move the mouse around, I see a cursor that looks like gnome hasn't loaded
[04:27] <ses1984> if i ctrl-alt-f1 or another, i just see no output to the monitor or just a cursor
[04:28] <ses1984> i can't log in at all. actually i am able to log in over SSH but i'm troubleshooting and failing
[04:28] <somsip> Cheryl_c_: as the bot said, support for 14.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <Cheryl_c_> Sorry that was Ubunto 13.10
[04:28] <ses1984> every time i sudo service lightdm restart, i just get the same weird X cursor
[04:28] <somsip> ses1984: how did you install the new drivers?
[04:29] <ses1984> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[04:29] <ses1984> then lightdm restart
[04:29] <somsip> ses1984: looks normal. Did that process complete okay? No errors? All kernel modules built and everything?
[04:29] <ses1984> i have tried to sudo X -configure, and move the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[04:30] <ses1984> i think the command completed successfully
[04:30] <ses1984> i have actually tried to remove and purge that
[04:30] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, run in the terminal software-center and look for errors
[04:30] <pvl1> session problem
[04:30] <somsip> ses1984: so you have now purged them, or are they installed?
[04:30] <pvl1> ses1984: what do you use, unity?
[04:30] <ses1984> i tried to sudo X -configure and copy that config file in, according to Xorg.0.log it was pulling that in
[04:30] <smacktalk1> is there a way to stream one line of text into a file using sed?  I can't figure out the command stucture from the man page...
[04:31] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: How do I do that? I am a newbie
[04:31] <ses1984> somsip i tried to re-install them i dont remember if i purged it just now. secoind please
[04:31] <somsip> smacktalk1: sed 's/this/that' file > outputfile
[04:31] <ses1984> pvl1: yes
[04:31] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, OPen a terminal ctrl-alt-t then type in software-center and hit enter, then look for errors
[04:32] <somsip> smacktalk1: though as I type that, I wonder if I know what I'm on about...
[04:32] <Guest4742>
[04:32] <pvl1> ses1984: in a tty, can you try startx & unity&
[04:32] <pvl1> or idk what the command to run a unity session is
[04:32] <pvl1> Beldar: ^^
[04:32] <pvl1> do u?
[04:32] <somsip> smacktalk1: apparently I did http://is.gd/tG1ug4
[04:33] <ses1984> i cant get a direct tty, only ssh, do i have to pass it some parameters about which display to use
[04:33] <somsip> ses1984: you can check the X error log if you can ssh...
[04:33] <pvl1> ses1984: yes
[04:33] <pvl1> probably
[04:33] <ses1984> the error log doesn't show me anything obvious that would explain why i see an X cursor but nothing else is loading and i cant even get a tty
[04:33] <ses1984> let me paste it
[04:34] <somsip> ses1984: so are we assuming that the drivers are installed and you didn't purge them?
[04:34] <pvl1> ses1984: i just said, its because your session isnt loading. probably nothing to do with xserver itself. just a session script
[04:35] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, Basically this is just an attempt to open the software center to see if any errors show that may indicate the problem.
[04:36] <hipitihop_> Beldar, understand, I do same re only learn what I need, but other unrelated experiments some time back to do with lirc usb device, tought me that while lsusb may see the device, it is the dmesg details that can give hints as to what kernel module/driver may be grabbing it or failing
[04:37] <Beldar> hipitihop_, Heh, true, I'm just an armchair user in the end, my studies are in many other areas is all.
[04:37] <ses1984> somsip: i purged them
[04:37] <somsip> ses1984: k
[04:38]  * hipitihop_ boots back to installed 12.04.3
[04:38] <ses1984> pvl1: if i try to startx i get a message about user not authorized.
[04:38] <ses1984> if i sudo i get this: xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
[04:39] <ses1984> i'm trying to look up about passing a display parameter
[04:39] <pvl1> ses1984: killall x first
[04:39] <ses1984> Xorg.log if i use the xorg.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707244/
[04:39] <smacktalk1> this is what I'm trying to do...add this line of text to the psmouse.conf file something like sed -e '/options psmouse proto=imps/'  > /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf
[04:39] <ses1984> without http://paste.ubuntu.com/6707257/
[04:39] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: here is the output -2014-01-06 23:33:21,970 - softwarecenter.ui.gtk3.views.lobbyview - WARNING - skipping exhibit for: 'u'amnesia-amfp'' not available 2014-01-06 23:33:25,937 - softwarecenter.region - WARNING - failed to use geoclue: 'org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Geoclue.Master was not provided by any .service files' 2014-01-06 23:33:28,511 - softwarecenter.db.utils - INFO - software-
[04:40] <ses1984> killall x: no process found
[04:40] <somsip> smacktalk1: the destination file will need sudo access. Use 'sudo tee' to write to it. I'll look for an example
[04:40] <smacktalk1> thanks  :)
[04:40] <smacktalk1> i'm root
[04:41] <somsip> smacktalk1: Urgghh.
[04:41] <somsip> smacktalk1: A safer approach http://is.gd/P7G6wK
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys sorry I was having a problem attempting to install Ubuntu Server without a CD Drive on the server computer. I downloaded the ISO, Burned it with Startup Disk Creator, It would not work. I attempted to follow a few guides somsip and a few others listed, but it did not seem to work...someone suggested that guide was out of date?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> Sorry I am just home now, I was stressing at work because I never had that problem with an ISO install of Ubuntu server...odd.
[04:42] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: what version are you using?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 LTS.
[04:42] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: so the guide is appropriate.
[04:42] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, Try running in the terminal this command to see if you have any broken packages, I do see a bug with the software center, so run this. sudo apt-get -f install
[04:42] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: did you get the second link with more verbose instructions on it?
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> I attempted to use the guide, the problem is that when following the guide it suggested that it would allow me to add commands after I select Do not boot from CD. I found the menu to add commands in, and followed the commands...even figuring out that it was sda ! but when I did Alt+F4. It did not work, and nothing happened.
[04:43] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, I forgot to ask if you have run any updates as well.
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> I did not get a chance to get to the second link which someone suggested was newer.
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> could someone perhaps please relink it?
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> Most of the googling I did sugggested to try other burning methods...
[04:44] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: [03:16] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: try a more recent version, that has possibly more verbose instructions http://is.gd/AxBJ1I
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> ty looking at it now
[04:44] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: k. Glad you've calmed down a bit now...
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> the guide is for windows.
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 to burn the Iso :)
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> yea, sorry I was really freaking out at work, never had these issues...sigh
[04:45] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: scroll down... Maybe I spoke too soon about you calming down :/
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> but yes I am much more calm now.. ahah!
[04:45] <Beldar> lol
[04:45] <Cheryl_c_> Output = Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:   sbsigntool Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Yes I have done updates to all my software
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> somsip
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> i am printing that guide now, to bring to work for tomorrow.
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> I will give it a try, anything else I can print as well?
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> if incase this does not work?
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> or this "should" be the solution.
[04:46] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: the issue seems to be that you need to mount the USB in a way to fool the installer into thinking it's the CD. That's all. I've only looked for these two guides (other as previous)
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> ooohhh
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> but why  must I fool the installer? is there no installer for just a plain usb install?
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> or was it the way it was burned?
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> I am just confused why this happened :P
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> just as a FYI type thing, so I know
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> and learn
[04:47] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: There are plenty of instances of this happening which suggests it's a real problem. If you want a solution, try these and read more around it. If you want to bug report once you know what you want to say, great
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> yea thanks
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> very helpful somsip :)
[04:48] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: np
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> next I have to learn if my system is a hardware raid or software raid
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> I have alot to do :( tomorrow.
[04:48] <Ben64> you should know if its hardware raid
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> I think it was a hard ware raid, becasue they put it together
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> with the drives, in the store
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> and said I just need to configure ubuntu :S for it
[04:48] <Ben64> who are "they"
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> Tiger Direct
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> in Canada.
[04:48] <TheAndrewK> I'm having a lot of trouble booting into my machine - many times, it just shows a black screen with a blinking cursor. Wasn't having issues this morning, but moved hardware into a new case and now getting this :(
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> TheAndrewK: sounds like perhaps a driver issue??
[04:49] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, Hmm two not upgraded, have you been using the update manager gui and have you seen any partial upgrade warnings?
[04:49] <Ben64> !nomodeset | TheAndrewK try this
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> I get the black screen alot TheAndrewK.
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> nomodeset is good to try
[04:49] <sdn3rd> how long after you issue dput will it take to see packages in your PPA?
[04:49] <TheAndrewK> @ubottu, @Ben64: I'll try that.
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> Ben64: so if they set up the raid while they built the computer
[04:49] <TheAndrewK> @Psil0Cybin: it was working this morning, so I doubt drivers
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> I am assuming its a hardware raid :P
[04:49] <ses1984> so any ideas...
[04:50] <somsip> sdn3rd: PPAs are not suported here. You need to ask the package maintainer
[04:50] <sdn3rd> I made the package
[04:50] <sdn3rd> I am uploading it to my PPA
[04:50] <somsip> sdn3rd: then *your* PPA packages are not suported here. Try Launchpad support page
[04:51] <sdn3rd> I did, doesnt tell me how long it takes to see it :P
[04:51] <sdn3rd> anyhow thanks for not being helpful ;)
[04:51] <rww> such rules very harsh
[04:51] <rww> sdn3rd: #launchpad might help :)
[04:51] <linuxlite1969> any one knows for the VLC update here??
[04:51] <Cheryl_c_> After I use the upgrade manager and reboot I see several failure warnings upon reboot before the gui kicks in
[04:52] <sdn3rd> rww: thanks much :)
[04:52] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: After I use the upgrade manager and reboot I see several failure warnings upon reboot before the gui kicks in
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin>  I just got a server, for work...I asked them to raid the system and they said they did it while they built the computer does that mean its a hardware raid or a software raid? how can I find out?
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> woops >.<
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> didnt mean to repost it
[04:55] <TheAndrewK> trying the 'nomodeset' parameter and it still falls to a black screen w/ blinking icon :(
[04:56] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, So I'm trying to put together the reboot associated with the update manager, generally you would only with a few installs there, kernel upgrades/updates is one. The errors you see may or may not be related to the software center, best to save them if possible and pastebin them for posting.
[04:57] <TheAndrewK> one issue I found is if I try to scroll over while editing the GRUB options (hitting left/right arrow keys), after a bit, my system will freeze.
[04:57] <TheAndrewK> any idea why that is?
[04:57] <Beldar> Cheryl_c_, I think you will need more experienced help than mine here as well.
[04:58] <TheAndrewK> system temp (as reported in bios) seems pretty high...
[04:58] <TheAndrewK> but all case fans and processor fans are spinning fine
[04:59] <Beldar> TheAndrewK, Just so you know we don't use @ you would use the nick and a comma or : or just tab complete nicks.
[04:59] <TheAndrewK> Beldar:ah yeah, sorry :)
[04:59] <Beldar> hehe no biggie
[04:59] <Cheryl_c_> Beldar: Thanks for your help so far.  I am still working on it. Anyone else out there knows how to get Ubuntu to not hang at the software center?
[04:59] <smacktalk1> this worked better    echo "this is a text to append" >> filename
[05:00] <TheAndrewK> Ben64:nomodeset seems to have no effect sadly.
[05:02] <jakis> my internet keeps disconnecting, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and im on a wireless connection
[05:02] <jakis> what could be the problem
[05:02] <TheAndrewK> Ben64: seems I get a freeze when I am editing GRUB entries and using the arrow keys
[05:04] <jKlaus> doe anyone know of an ubuntu variant that is geared towards development?
[05:04] <jKlaus> Does*
[05:04] <jakis> my internet keeps disconnecting im on a wireless connection, and on ubuntu 12.04lts, what could be the problem?
[05:05] <jKlaus> jakis.. I had the same issue with one wireless adapter.  It was the driver it was using
[05:05] <jKlaus> Had to install the latest driver, problem solved.
[05:05] <jakis> jKlaus, how do i do that?
[05:06] <jKlaus> Google it.. figure out what chipset your device has then start googling  most likely many others have already solved the problem for you.. and give you a step by step on how to fix it
[05:06] <TheAndrewK> i was able to select the recovery boot option in GRUB, but it halts/freezes on "msgmni has been set to 15964"
[05:06] <jakis> jKlaus, ok thank you buklau
[05:06] <TheAndrewK> I don't see anything error-like or suspicious
[05:06] <TheAndrewK> a blinking cursor is below
[05:07] <TheAndrewK> I can't hit CTRL+ALT+F1 or anything of that sort.
[05:07] <TheAndrewK> CTRL+ALT+DEL also does not trigger a reboot
[05:07] <jKlaus> np jakis.. figuring out the chipset will tell you what driver you need.  From there you'll easily be able to figure out if thats the problem
[05:07] <TheAndrewK> rebooting...
[05:11] <F^3> Any recommendations for WMs to check out besides Gnome, Unity, KDE, XFCE, and dwm?
[05:12] <smacktalk1> what's the best rdp client?
[05:12] <F^3> smacktalk1, rdesktop
[05:12] <SchrodingersScat> F^3: I've heard good things about 'awesome' and 'wmii'
[05:13] <F^3> (for the lazy http://awesome.naquadah.org/)
[05:13] <packetscaper> hi guys
[05:14] <TheAndrewK> still unsure why this isn't booting :(
[05:14] <somsip> F^3: it depends what you are looking for. What functionality do you want?
[05:14] <F^3> TheAndrewK, What's the problem?
[05:15] <TheAndrewK> F^3:have had multiple issues so far: booting normally kicks me to a black screen with a blinking cursor; recovery booting freezes after a bit
[05:15] <TheAndrewK> will attempt again
[05:15] <F^3> somsip, Clean, minimalistic, and just a WM and not a full DE. A background image/menu launcher would be a huge bonus.
[05:15] <F^3> I was thinking about looking into xmonade (sp?) or i3
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> booting 3.11.0-14
[05:16] <somsip> F^3: tiling or non-tiling?
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> freezes this time after handling cdrom and detecting usb device (my card reader)
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> froze in a different place last time.
[05:16] <TheAndrewK> i've tried booting live CDs with no success either.
[05:16] <F^3> somsip, If it can only tile text (terminal) based apps and float gui windows that would be a huge bonus.
[05:16] <F^3> TheAndrewK, Sounds like an xorg driver issue. What video card?
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> GeForce GTX 260
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> it was working this morning before I migrated the hardware into a new case, though
[05:17] <F^3> Oh.. missed your last message. Did you already install it?
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> so I'm a bit stumped if there are driver issues
[05:17] <packetscaper> guys I have recently installed Ubuntu in my Dell inspiron. eveything is working fine but I am getting a lot cpu utilization even when a tab is opened
[05:17] <F^3> Hmm. What about unplugging the USB and cdrom device?
[05:17] <packetscaper> I think there is some issue with graphics card driver
[05:17] <TheAndrewK> F^3:worth a shot :)
[05:18] <F^3> packetscaper, It wouldn't stall so early on from what I understand.
[05:18] <packetscaper> pzl suggest something
[05:18] <F^3> TheAndrewK, if it was working on the other case it might be an issue with a shorting as well (unlikely)
[05:18] <somsip> F^3: possible the family of awesome/xmonad/dwm as they should allow per-screen layouts. EG: I use awesome and tile everything, but screen 1 has mail and skype, screen 2 has irc and browser, etc... Any of the screens could be floating rather than tiling. Throw in feh and dmenu and you might have what you need
[05:18] <TheAndrewK> yeah, this case is brand new so
[05:18] <packetscaper> I have installed it before
[05:18] <packetscaper> and have worked on it
[05:19] <F^3> somsip, Would it be possible to make it auto float though? I know I can manually float windows.
[05:19] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I have Apple's Mac fonts in Ubuntu?
[05:19] <TheAndrewK> F^3:attempting a boot now.
[05:19] <mojtaba> Or simply use nicer fonts?
[05:20] <somsip> F^3: I can only advise on awesome. Yes. You setup rules based on window names, so Chrome will always float no matter which window it is on (example)
[05:20] <F^3> somsip, Hmm. Would it be possible to add a rule to float everything and manually set x windows to tile?
[05:21] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> why
[05:21] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ?
[05:21] <rww> Atlantic777: why what
[05:21] <rww> erm
[05:22] <rww> Angel_Of_Sorrow: why what
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> im not sure
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> i got banned for no reason
[05:22] <TheAndrewK> F^3: this time, recovery boot - froze again at sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
[05:22] <somsip> F^3: I'm not sure it would. Better to have terminals fixed to a specific screen and tile them there. If you don't get the idea of screens that have different layouts, maybe awesome is not what you need. Dunno about dwm and xmonad though
[05:22] <rww> Angel_Of_Sorrow: go talk to #ubuntu-ops, then
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> i tried loging in yesterday
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> and i was banned
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ive been good though
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> good
[05:22] <rww> Angel_Of_Sorrow: go talk to #ubuntu-ops, then
[05:22] <somsip> Angel_Of_Sorrow: if you continue asking about that here, you will be banned again
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> ah
[05:22] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> apologies
[05:22] <F^3> somsip, 90% of the time I use my PC as a HTPC
[05:23] <F^3> TheAndrewK, Sounds like SDC is busted and the kernel can't register the device halting the boot.
[05:23] <TheAndrewK> hmm, ok
[05:23] <F^3> so only one screen is used. I kind of like the idea of having terminal apps as part of my background I suppose.
[05:23] <TheAndrewK> I'll see if I can boot a live CD I suppose.
[05:23] <somsip> F^3: all the above still applies. But this is not really ubuntu support so I'm going to stop the OT chat at that. Hope you find something useful for you
[05:23] <Angel_Of_Sorrow> no
[05:23] <jakis> Angel_Of_Sorrow, no
[05:24] <F^3> Thanks. I'll look into them in the morning.
[05:24] <somsip> F^3: np
[05:25] <TheAndrewK> attempting a live CD...
[05:25] <TheAndrewK> :( gah
[05:26] <TheAndrewK> thrown to a black screen with blinking white cursor for the live CD, even.
[05:26] <TheAndrewK> is there any way to figure out why the live CD is also throwing me to a black sceen/blinking cursor?
[05:28] <pvl1> are .desktop files unity specific
[05:29] <Angel_Of_Sorrow1> what improvements has ubuntu made since 2007 (When i last used it)? You see I've been a windows again man until recently??
[05:30] <pvl1> Angel_Of_Sorrow1: usability, eye candy, theyve developed platforms for all kinds of mobile devices tvs
[05:30] <pvl1> Angel_Of_Sorrow1: go as in #ubuntu-offoptic
[05:31] <somsip> Angel_Of_Sorrow1: grab a live CD and see for yourself
[05:31] <mintyz> who can help me with my ubuntu installation issue...... <---- rookie
[05:31] <pvl1> mintyz: whats up
[05:32] <mintyz> after installation, seems i've lost my windows os
[05:32] <pvl1> mintyz: can you describe your installation process please
[05:33] <packetscaper> even i am having an installation issue
[05:34] <packetscaper> my cpu temperature is high, battery is killing fast but cpu utilization is normal
[05:34] <mintyz> installed ubuntu, fixed the grub loader issue and still no windows 7 showing
[05:34] <pvl1> packetscaper: what laptop
[05:34] <F^3> packetscaper, Heat sink issue?
[05:34] <mintyz> and when i tried to fix the windows boot loader, nothing for windows is finding my OS....
[05:34] <packetscaper> Dell inspiron
[05:34] <F^3> Oh.. I didn't see the battery part, sorry.
[05:34] <pvl1> packetscaper: drivers/modules
[05:34] <sleepie^> What do most people use in place of VMware on Ubuntu for virtualizing ISO's?
[05:35] <pvl1> !modules | packetscaper
[05:35] <F^3> sladen, Do you mean for reading ISOs or actually executing the code?
[05:35] <pvl1> mintyz: how did you try to fix windows bootloader
[05:35] <rww> F^3: (mistab)
[05:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:39] <pvl1> !virtualization | sleepie^
[05:41] <mintyz> pvl1: is there any way to check if my windows os is still intact through ubuntu?
[05:42] <kseifried> so I log into ubuntu 13.04 it tells e to run do-release-upgrade, which then tells me no new version available. hints?
[05:42] <sleepie^> !virtualization
[05:42] <pvl1> kseifried: apt-get update
[05:42] <kseifried> did that
[05:42] <kseifried> ah dns nevermind
[05:42] <pvl1> lol
[05:42] <pvl1> !virtualization | sleepie^
[05:43] <kseifried> man do-release-upgrade needs better errors :P
[05:44] <pvl1> !lxde | packetscaper
[05:44] <sleepie^> test
[05:44] <Wug> sucks when the person you're helping splits off of the network
[05:44] <acts__> hello
[05:44] <pvl1> mintyz: yes
[05:45] <mintyz> ??? :)
[05:45] <linuxlite1969> vlc update? command???
[05:47] <pvl1> mintyz: can you please pastbin the output of ssudo blkidudo blkid
[05:47] <pvl1> sudo blkid
[05:47] <pvl1> sorry
[05:49] <linuxlite1969> vlc update command anyone know???
[05:50] <somsip> linuxlite1969: how did you install vlc?
[05:50] <somsip> linuxlite1969: are you using ubuntu or linuxlite?
[05:51] <linuxlite1969> linuxlite/ubuntu 12.04
[05:51] <mintyz> one sec
 loinuxlite/12.04
[05:52] <somsip> linuxlite1969: linuxlite is not supported here. join #linuxlite
[05:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:00] <tr0n> any way to ubdate the touchpad drivers from command line?
[06:01] <_jam> anyone know of a good PPA for virtualbox 4.3 for saucy? The oracle one might as well just have a script that downloads the 'universal' installer and screws everything up
[06:02] <somsip> tr0n: the way to do all updates is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' but whether it picks up the touchpad drivers as changed depends on the release of a new package
[06:02] <somsip> !ppa | _jam
[06:03] <tr0n> well im running 1204 lte on a chromebook, but i'll try it, thnx
[06:03] <mintyz> plv1: sorry, took a #2   but here it is : http://pastebin.com/c3dyDU0r#
[06:03] <_jam> somsip: yea, that page is giving me a timeout error. thus the reason I'm here  :)
[06:03] <_jam> also hadn't found anything with google
[06:03] <Beldar> _jam, Never had trouble with vbox from oracle what happens when you use it?
[06:04] <_jam> unfortunately, the virtualbox that ships in 13.10 is pretty seriously broken
[06:04] <somsip> _jam: looks like launchpad may be done. So even if you find an unsupported PPA you wont be able to use it until launchpad is up. See recursion.
[06:04] <_jam> Beldar: well, for one thing, it doesn't conform to the package layout of debian/ubuntu. it is just one big monolithic package
[06:04] <somsip> *down
[06:04] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone I have a problem with my display, none of the application have a window, i.e no close button , no window resizing etc.
[06:05] <ripthejacker> Not sure if problem with unity or compiz. Please help
[06:05] <ripthejacker> I cannot switch applications, so I can't even use my browser to search
[06:05] <_jam> and then it doesn't have the ubuntu/debian-specific guest installation stuff, it just installs all of their stuff in various folders and you have to go through and use installation scripts
[06:06] <_jam> which is crap, since if I 'uninstall' the package, the stuff that the installation scripts isntalled will stick around
[06:06] <ripthejacker> please help
[06:06] <somsip> _jam: Just wait until launchpad is up, and you should be able to find what you need.
[06:06] <Beldar> _jam, vbox has it's own setup, are you sure what you actually want is any different than theirs rather than a ppa's...etc
[06:07] <Jordan_U> mintyz: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[06:07] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | mintyz
[06:07] <mintyz> copy that
[06:08] <_jam> Beldar: everything has its own setup. the point is that a PPA should follow the package layout of ubuntu/debian, that way apt/aptitude/etc can just choose the latest version of the package and go on
[06:09] <Beldar> _jam, Heh, not sure that is more than a opinion, not a real actuality.
[06:09] <_jam> well, I've been on debian and ubuntu for over 10 years, and every 3rd party repository/PPA I've used has used that convention
[06:10] <Beldar> _jam, Most ppa's are modified ubuntu packages not a whole app from a 3rd party however.
[06:10] <Beldar> anyway good luck
[06:11] <_jam> Beldar: false. almost all software that ships with ubuntu (and therefore almost all PPAs that add to or replace existing versions of that software) is 3rd party
[06:11] <_jam> it is packaged in a way to be compatible and upgrade nicely. oracle shat on that without warning and now I'm stuck cleaning it up
[06:11] <Beldar> lol what ever you say, maybe a tranquilizer would be some help here.
[06:19] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, Window decorations are missing when I login using unity.
[06:20] <xangua> ripthejacker: did you install compiz settings manager?
[06:20] <ripthejacker> xangua: no
[06:21] <ripthejacker> And I get error dialogs for compiz and apport-gtk
[06:21] <ripthejacker> but no such error in gnome-classic(no effects)
[06:21] <mintyz> ubottu: I am getting a "command not found" after installation and using term
[06:21] <xangua> ripthejacker: how about reset compiz settings?
[06:22] <mintyz> ubottu: well i am only a human, dont think I am intelligent either......
[06:23] <ripthejacker> xangua: I deleted the .compiz dir but the problem still exists
[06:24] <mintyz> jordan_u: no luck with the bootinfo script process....
[06:24] <xangua> ripthejacker: well then you could start with the error dialogs of compiz and apport-gtk you mentioned earlier
[06:25] <ripthejacker> xangua: low level function calls and all. I have no idea where to start.
[06:26] <Beldar> mintyz, You following the bootscript pages commands exactly, can you detail the process you did exactly?
[06:27] <Beldar> mintyz, YOu have to unpack the download as well.
[06:27] <mintyz> beldar: downloaded the bootinfo script, unpacked at downloads folder, "  sudo ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript"
[06:29] <Beldar> mintyz, Check you made any mistakes I have done this many times and just now with no problem.
[06:30] <ripthejacker> xangua: JFYI , I'm using ubuntu 12.10
[06:30] <mintyz> beldar: I can just extract to the downloads section correct?
[06:30] <Beldar> mintyz, Download folder
[06:30] <ripthejacker> xangua: I'll try loggin in gnome with effects
[06:30] <mintyz> beldar: correct
[06:31] <mintyz> beldar: the folder after unpacking is bootinfoscript-061
[06:31] <mintyz> beldar: in the downloads folder
[06:32] <Beldar> mintyz, That is the tars name you want to see the bootinfoscript textextracted out
[06:32] <Beldar> text extracted*
[06:34] <mintyz> beldar: one sec beldar i think i got it :)
[06:35] <mintyz> beldar:  http://pastebin.com/hh0QbwGn
[06:36] <Beldar> Jordan_U, ^^^^
[06:36] <mintyz> or jordan....
[06:36] <Fudge> quick question, in unity launcher, the menu for an application like thunderbird/contacts compose mail etc, is that called a quick list?
[06:37] <Beldar> mintyz, I'm not real up on uefi, and all around the other user is more knowledgeable, and I have to take off shortly.
[06:38] <mintyz> beldar: no prob, thanks for the help :)
[06:38] <Beldar> no prob
[06:44] <sgo11> for lxde, after running lxpanelctl restart, I lost my desktop icons. I think they are managed by pcmanfm, right? how to get them back? thanks.
[06:45] <mintyz> jordan_u still there???
[06:46] <Beldar> sgo11, even after a logout or reboot?
[06:47] <sgo11> Beldar, logout will solve the problem. I am wondering how to bring it back without logout. :)
[06:47] <Beldar> sgo11, I figured as such, not sure of an answer is all.
[06:49] <utkarsh_> hello
[06:50] <utkarsh_> anyone tried running wvdial in ubuntu ?
[06:50] <kate`> hello hello
[06:50] <somsip> utkarsh_: what is your real question?
[06:50] <kate`> can rpc.nfsd be convinced to bind() to a particular IP, rather than to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:52] <utkarsh_> wvdial is able to detect the modem and dial, but it is just resending the requests
[06:52] <utkarsh_> and then exiting
[06:54] <somsip> utkarsh_: this is a modem thing is it? Does it get a dial tone?
[06:54] <utkarsh_> ya it is a tata docom photon +
[06:54] <utkarsh_> I m trying to set up a PPP
[06:54] <somsip> utkarsh_: to where?
[06:55] <utkarsh_> it is dialer modem
[06:55] <utkarsh_> for internet 3 broadband
[06:55] <utkarsh_> connection
[06:55] <utkarsh_> i am able to connect to internet through network manager
[06:55] <somsip> utkarsh_: is this a company you pay for internet access?
[06:55] <utkarsh_> ya
[06:55] <somsip> utkarsh_: you may need to speak to their technical support
[06:56] <utkarsh_> ohk
[07:04] <cheryl_c> When I start my PC I get a "grub rescue" prompt.  I have no idea how to work with this or get back to Ubuntu. I just triedinstalling WIndows 7 before I got the error
[07:07] <somsip> cheryl_c: it is possible w7 has overwritten some of the grub files.
[07:07] <Cojak> ubuntu desktop , can be work as a server ?
[07:07] <somsip> !grub | cheryl_c
[07:07] <somsip> Cojak: what do you want it to server?
[07:07] <somsip> *serve
[07:09] <Cojak> somsip: have 5 pcs using ms software (windows) would like to install ubuntu on a separate machine and work as a server
[07:09] <somsip> Cojak: serving what?
[07:10] <Cojak> main derver (network) distribute to the 5 stations
[07:10] <somsip> !server | Cojak
[07:11] <somsip> Cojak: but it sounds like you just want it to work as a router with what you say. Which it will do
[07:12] <somsip> !server-network | Cojak
[07:13] <Cojak> somsip: assumed ubottu has right , actually that what am looking for , thanx
[07:18] <bhavesh> Sometimes when I get out of fullscreen YouTube videos, in Ubuntu 13.10, Google Chrome, the Unity panel and top bar are missing. I need to unmaximize Google Chrome to bring them back. Is this a reported bug? Are there any ways to fix it?
[07:22] <Guest30613> quiet today
[07:23] <Guest30613> My Hard Drive is experiencing some excessive Thrashing - any suggestions?
[07:25] <somsip> Guest30613: what does iotop tell you?
[07:25] <Guest30613> I should take a snapshot of that the next time the Thrashing happens?
[07:25] <somsip> Guest30613: it's not continuous then? Yes, try to find out what is causing it when it's happening
[07:27] <dshbusiness> Hi,all. I just download ubuntu 13.04 iso file. But I can't use dd to burn it into a usb disk.
[07:27] <dshbusiness> It always shows that I have 2 partitions.
[07:27] <Guest30613> Yes yesterday it was really bad,I did change the disk speed settings for power saving features.  But even after increasing the speed to max there was still a Thrashing issue
[07:28] <somsip> Guest30613: I would suggest trying to find out what is doing it while it's happening
[07:28] <SierraAR> What does 'thrashing' mean in this case?
[07:28] <dshbusiness> It always dd a gpt table on my usb disk.
[07:28] <Guest30613> yes good suggestion, thinking along the same lines
[07:28] <dshbusiness> Could anyone help?
[07:28] <Guest30613> Thrashing  is excessive disk accessing
[07:28] <somsip> dshbusiness: explain what process you are following
[07:29] <Guest30613> which can slow your computer down horribly
[07:29] <dshbusiness> Like this: dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/deb/sdb
[07:29] <dshbusiness> somsip: dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/deb/sdb
[07:29] <somsip> dshbusiness: and one more time with the correct destination...
[07:29] <nerdtron> dshbusiness: why would you dd ubuntu iso on flash drive?
[07:30] <Guest30613> Dont want my Hard Disk to blow up because of it lol
[07:30] <dshbusiness> somsip: What do you mean correct destination? sdb1?
[07:30] <dshbusiness> nerdtron: For installation.
[07:30] <somsip> dshbusiness: /dev... not /deb... but see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#dd_image_of_iso_file_to_USB_device_safely
[07:31] <dshbusiness> somsip: Sorry, my type mistake. It's dd if=./ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[07:31] <nerdtron> dshbusiness: you don't have to dd the iso to create a bootable disk... you can use the startup disk creator for that..or unetbootin
[07:31] <demondevil> or lili if ur using windows
[07:32] <somsip> dshbusiness: that link I sent covers all eventualities. You need to be sudo if you do use dd though
[07:32] <somsip> s/be sudo/use/sudo
[07:32] <ripthejacker> nerdtron: I all had problems using startup disk creator, dd is hassle free
[07:32] <ripthejacker> *always
[07:33] <dshbusiness> somsip: In fact I have use dd for a long time. It always works fine. But recently, it does not work.
[07:33] <dshbusiness> somsip: I mean use dd to install ubuntu
[07:34] <dshbusiness> nerdtron: unetbootin cannot find right partition. It always let me use /dev/sdb2
[07:34] <somsip> dshbusiness: size of usb stick?
[07:34] <dshbusiness> 8.1GB
[07:34] <dshbusiness> And the iso is less than 1GB
[07:35] <somsip> dshbusiness: and can you paste the command you use and the error output (use paste.ubuntu.com)
[07:35] <ripthejacker> dshbusiness: delete all the partitions in the card, format as fat, and then try dd
[07:36] <dshbusiness> somsip: It does not report any error. dd returns on sucess. But when I reboot my computer, my BIOS cannot recognize the usb disk.
[07:37] <somsip> dshbusiness: I'm guessing that would be a bootable flag then
[07:37] <dshbusiness> When I use gnome's disk utility to check the usb disk. It has two patitions now.
[07:38] <somsip> dshbusiness: you say this used to work, like with old versions of ubuntu? Which version are you dding now?
[07:39] <somsip> dshbusiness: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25476/how-to-make-a-usb-drive-bootable-after-live-image-is-copied-into-it-using-dd-c?lq=1
[07:39] <dshbusiness> somsip: 13.04
[07:39] <somsip> dshbusiness: also, checksum the iso...
[07:39] <dshbusiness> somsip: md5sum has been checked.
[07:39] <dshbusiness> And it's right.
[07:39] <somsip> dshbusiness: http://askubuntu.com/questions/70303/cant-boot-after-a-dd-bios-reports-no-bootable-drives?rq=1
[07:40] <snufft> I'm trying to devise a way to check if a site has been injected with malware. the atacker always puts a div after </html> but the id of the div changes every time. Can i just pipe wget to grep and somehow only check if there's anything after </html>?
[07:40] <somsip> I'm just searching and throw stuff out here. I have no immediate answer but there seem to be a lot of others with similar issues so maybe you can find something in there
[07:40] <somsip> snufft: yes
[07:41] <demondevil> if u have windows installed or wine use this program
[07:41] <demondevil> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[07:41] <dshbusiness> somsip: I'll try. Thanks.
[07:41] <demondevil> best program i have used for making linux bootable usbs
[07:42] <dshbusiness> somsip: When I dd the iso to the usb disk, it will have an extra partition with partition type like this: "EFI (FAT-12/16/32)"
[07:43] <Jordan_U> demondevil: That's intentional and expected.
[07:43] <Jordan_U> demondevil: Is your boot firmware BIOS or UEFI?
[07:43] <somsip> Jordan_U: (dshbusiness I think)
[07:44] <demondevil> my bios isnt UEFI
[07:44] <dshbusiness> Jordan_U: It is a UEFI, but I turned UEFI down.
[07:44] <snufft> somsip, great! should i use grep/awk/sed or something else? my overall goal is just to find out if *anything* (except spaces and new lines) exists after </html> and then send an email to myself to tell me
[07:45] <dshbusiness> It was used windows 8 at first.
[07:45] <dshbusiness> It was using win8 at first.
[07:45] <dshbusiness> with uefi
[07:45] <somsip> snufft: You probably want to wrap something like this in a script with your email commands in a condition http://is.gd/jG1h1H Of course, you'll need the grep pattern too
[07:46] <snufft> somsip, no worries. thanks :)
[07:47] <Jordan_U> dshbusiness: Have you successfully booted from other USB drives on this machine?
[07:48] <dshbusiness> Once, but that bootable usb disk is made on another computer.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> dshbusiness: For most machines at this point you'll have better luck booting Ubuntu via UEFI than CSM (the firmware's BIOS implementation).
[07:49] <dshbusiness> Jordan_U: You mean I should open my uefi?
[07:49] <rww> Jordan_U: what does CSM stand for?
[07:49] <dshbusiness> I'll try. Thanks:)
[07:50] <Jordan_U> rww: Compatability Support Module
[07:50] <rww> thanks
[07:50] <Jordan_U> rww: You're welcome.
[07:58] <glenford> hey guys how to join fedora channel
[07:58] <glenford> for ambassadors
[07:58] <somsip> !alis | glenford
[07:58] <Raven> I frequently use Skype and I sometimes want to use it from two different rooms, but using the same machine. If I connect two webcams to the same machine, running Ubuntu, what will happen? Is there a way I can switch from one webcam to the next?
[07:59] <glenford> thanks
[07:59] <ahren> i installed ubuntu over the network and i installed also the xubuntu packages  how am i able to get a choice as to which window manager to use at startup?
[07:59] <somsip> ahren: doesn't it show you a choice on the login screen? Id the login screen enabled
[07:59] <somsip> ?
[07:59] <ahren> no
[07:59] <somsip> ahren: enable it, logout, try again
[08:00] <ahren> i checked ubuntu and xubuntu packages and it won't give me a login screen only the login screen for xubuntu
[08:00] <ahren> how do i do that
[08:00] <ezra-s> Raven, it will depend on the client, probably client can only be configured to use one cam at a time, use different clients, that is not an ubuntu question btw
[08:00] <somsip> ahren: not sure - long time since I've done this. Somewhere in settings there will be a 'log in without password' or something similar. That bypasses lightdm login IIRC, if it's ticked.
[08:01] <Raven> ezra-s should I post in #linux?
[08:01] <ezra-s> Raven, I told you the answer
[08:02] <ezra-s> Raven, if you want to use skype you probably can't run it twice in the same session with the same user, so run it with two different users, configure the skype for each user to a different cam, problem solved
[08:02] <ezra-s> linux/ubuntu won't have problems detecting your usb devices plugged into it
[08:03] <ezra-s> another matter are the drivers, but I bet most cams are handled well
[08:03]  * hipitihop waves @ glitsj16 notes the hiding from hipitihop in fear, after yesterday's marathon
[08:03] <Raven> ezra-s so you're suggesting I make a separate user, so that I can do a second session, wherein I will run a second instance of skype
[08:04] <ezra-s> Raven, if Skype can't use two cams that is, I don't know skype sorry
[08:04] <Raven> ezra-s That is a good suggestion and I don't see why it wouldn't work... only I wish there were an easier way. Like a toggle switch utility, almost.
[08:04] <ezra-s> Raven, I'm guessing skype can't use two devices, in either case the problem won't be the OS, but the client
[08:04] <dw-> In gedit when I'm modifying a file over an FTP connection that I don't have write permission for if I try to save it says "Operation Failed" then crashes.  I then must do a killall gedit at terminal before it works again.  xkill alone doesn't do the trick.  Is this a known bug?  Where should I report it?
[08:05] <somsip> dw-: gedit requires X doesn't it? Use a text-only editor. Fix your permissions first. Maybe you mean SSH and not FTP...?
[08:05] <ezra-s> Raven, maybe there are alternatives to Skype which can do what you want, do some research, aka "internet search"
[08:06] <dw-> somsip: it's a nautilus ftp connection.  works fine when i fix permissions but if I don't check them manually first then I risk crashing and losing my whole workspace/tabs
[08:07] <ahren> somsip, it has been a while since i used ubuntu what would i have to search for in google
[08:07] <somsip> dw-: ah - fair enough. That does sound buggy.
[08:07]  * hipitihop reboots to try 12.04.3 live cd brb
[08:07] <glitsj16> hipitihop: hi again :) .. not hiding ... worse: gf windows machine trouble
[08:07] <ahren> somsip, what is the name of the theme manager
[08:07] <somsip> ahren: no idea. I don't use it
[08:07] <Raven> ezra-s I understand and agree, and believe me I'm certain there are clients that can do it, there are far more capable alternatives to skype but ultimately I find most don't work as well, and none are as user friendly for the other party
[08:07] <DF3D2> does anyone else have an issue where any kernel after .12 has no usb mouse/kb functionality?
[08:08] <DF3D2> .13 .14 .15 all have this issue
[08:08] <hipitihop> glitsj16, :-) eek, brb
[08:08] <Raven> ezra-s but I'll keep digging
[08:11] <ahren> somsip, this seems to be a good answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/111400/can-i-install-unity-aside-with-xfce-and-switch-them-as-i-want
[08:11] <somsip> ahren: I don't need links. I don't have the problem
[08:29] <glitsj16> hipitihop: did you do anymore work/research on the headset issue?
[08:30] <ahren> what do most people use here xubuntu or regular ubuntu with unity or kde
[08:30] <iceroot> ahren: regular ubuntu
[08:30] <rww> this is #ubuntu not #xubuntu or #kubuntu, so... probably Debian
[08:30] <hipitihop> glitsj16, sigh yes, most of the day again, I feel I have so much time invested in the issue I hate to let it go at this point without understanding why
[08:31] <ahren> my system is a little older should i still run the newest ubuntu?
[08:31] <Bender> Hey all. So, I have recently beeng getting this weird problem. And it seems to be happening more frequently now. My computer will randomly freeze up and my wifi fails. Then the screen may unfreeze for a moment or to and then freeze again. Then it remains unresponsive until I force the computer off. Can anyone help with this?
[08:31] <ahren> also i only have 2gb ram so i can still use the 32bit version right
[08:31] <rww> ahren: yes, and yes
[08:31] <glitsj16> hipitihop: understandable, but not much progress i take it?
[08:31] <Bender> ahren: I think you need 32 gb of ram
[08:31] <iceroot> ahren: if your cpu supports 64bit you should use the amd64 version
[08:31] <Bender> hence it being 32 bit
[08:31] <Bender> DUHHH
[08:32] <Bender> ....jk
[08:32] <hipitihop> glitsj16, no solution yet, but more interesting information, I did image my machine overnight to prepare to upgrade to 13.10...
[08:33] <hipitihop> glitsj16, then somene here, I think Bender, suggested, running the 13.10 live cd is not 100% proof that upgrade would solve the problem...
[08:34] <lucious77> hello, anyone can tell current mir/u8 state for 14.04 ? installation the same as for 13.10 ?
[08:34] <iceroot> lucious77: #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <hipitihop> glitsj16, the suggestion was, try the same with 12.04.3 live , so after fluffing about, more downloads etc, I did, and suprise, it also works on 12.04.3
[08:35] <hipitihop> glitsj16, so interesting info, but that leaves the $64k question, why
[08:35] <glitsj16> hipitihop: so that points to a configuration issue then it seems hmm
[08:36] <glitsj16> hipitihop: is the hid-generic (iirc) module getting properly loaded ?
[08:36] <hipitihop> glitsj16, indeed, so I just booted back again to the 12.04.3 live, and took some more detailed traces into pastebin so we can compare to installed 12.04.3
[08:36] <mindbender1> I'm having problems similar to http://askubuntu.com/questions/316778/ubuntu-13-04-cant-login-to-unity-keep-going-back-to-login-screen-with-all-us
[08:36] <glitsj16> hipitihop: detective at work heh, good idea
[08:37] <mindbender1> the solutions there don't work for me. This is happening soon after upgrading to 13.04
[08:38] <mindbender1> I initially had only gnome panel showing but after enabling unity with ccsm unity started appearing alongside gnome-panel
[08:39] <hipitihop> glitsj16, give me a sec as I did a question and bug entry yesterday so I will update with latest pastbin links and then will point you
[08:39] <glitsj16> hipitihop: sure, slept like a log so i think i've a fresher look than yesterday halfway thru the marathon
[08:40] <uczen> ;)
[08:40] <mindbender1> I later did a dconf reset -f /org/compiz that's when my problem started
[08:41] <hipitihop> glitsj16, sounds good, although I'm on a promise to step away from the keyboard a bit today so won't getaway with much tinkering. You might have to just post comment on bug/answers
[08:42] <glitsj16> hipitihop: no problem, that windows machine needs some attention here too so forum posts suits me fine
[08:43] <hipitihop> glitsj16, simple suggestion for that windows machine, install ubuntu :-)
[08:44] <glitsj16> hipitihop: haha, i did make it dual-boot .. promises/compromises .. she games on it quite
[08:45] <glitsj16> hipitihop: she likes and feels at home in ubuntu, but for games it became a real mess
[08:45] <hipitihop> glitsj16, roll on steamOS
[08:46] <glitsj16> hipitihop: that's on the to-do list yes, also one of these hybrid GPU machines, so i've been putting it off to be honest
[08:46] <Codex_> hello
[08:51] <hardboot_> so i have the sidebar on auto hide, is it possible to make reval more sensitive?
[08:52] <hardboot_> i have the slider maxed but it's still pretty pokey
[08:52] <hipitihop> glitsj16, see my comments at bottom of question with latest pastebin links from live 12.04.3 is https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/241760
[08:53] <hipitihop> glitsj16, correspnding bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1266343