[00:26] <vthompson> I watching one of the UOS sessions (http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22592/core-1511-snappy-developer-community-resources/) and was wondering if it'd be useful to have a snappy/core specific G+ community. The Ubuntu App Developers community has been very active at certain points in the past. Maybe that could be used to talk about snappy/core since they'll be one in the same in the future.
[00:40] <vthompson> Nm the above question, dholbach brought up making a G+ community in the video.
[03:03] <The_Letter_M> Hello.
[03:04] <The_Letter_M> I have snappy installed on a RasPi2 and I'm trying to get an ssh to it. I run "sudo snappy se ssh" and I get no results. How can I get an ssh session to it
[03:05] <The_Letter_M> NM
[03:05] <The_Letter_M> just found it in the docs
[03:08] <The_Letter_M> Is there a good reference for what commands are replaced with what in Snappy? Like I need to wget a file from the web and wget does not exist in snappy
[03:26] <The_Letter_M> Anyone?
[03:51] <The_Letter_M> Just curious, does anyone here use snappy outside of just what WebDM provides?
[11:38] <liuxg> woodrowshen, ping
[11:40] <liuxg> woodrowshen, would you please let me which armfh for ubuntu you are using for cross-building your snappy app. I just found that the image I was using golang installation got problem. thanks
[19:47] <meebo> hello
[19:47] <meebo> how can i help?


[01:55] <mup> Bug #1883333 opened: Allow for_hardware scripts to use any system information collected during commissioning. <MAAS:In Progress> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883333>
[02:01] <mup> Bug #1883333 changed: Allow for_hardware scripts to use any system information collected during commissioning. <MAAS:In Progress> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883333>
[02:04] <mup> Bug #1883333 opened: Allow for_hardware scripts to use any system information collected during commissioning. <MAAS:In Progress> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883333>
[02:25] <mup> Bug #1883337 opened: UI should show all system information fields <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883337>
[08:59] <mup> Bug #1883349 opened: [2.7.1] Pod VMs lose static IP after powering down <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1883349>


[13:00] <mdeslaur> Is Intel Clarkdale blacklisted for compiz in maverick?
[16:25] <marjo> apw, Sarvatt: happy new year
[16:26] <marjo> apw, Sarvatt: please see cjwatson's comment on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/693093
[16:26] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 693093 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[i945gme] 2.6.37-10.24: Black Screen on Boot (affects: 8) (heat: 50)" [High,Confirmed]
[16:30] <apw> marjo, yep so things work with old grub and not new ... what graphics h/w is this?
[16:31] <apw> marjo, this probabally means newer grub is leaving the display initiailised differnetly and the kernel is not coping
[16:31] <marjo> apw: Intel 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[16:31] <apw> marjo, as this is intel graphics we need to get an intel_reg_dumper output from both working and not working cases for comparison
[16:32] <apw> preferably at the same spot, say at gdm just after the drums, remotely logging in to get it
[16:32] <marjo> apw: please provide specific instructions
[16:34] <apw> marjo, and as we have just released a new -12 kernel i recon you should test with that
[16:34] <apw> as for instructions:
[16:35] <apw> install intel-gpu-tools
[16:35] <marjo> got it
[16:35] <apw> run sudo intel_reg_dumper on the old grub and on the new grub
[16:35] <apw> preferably at the same place
[16:36] <marjo> apw: how do i do that with the old grub when i can't even get to any ttys?
[16:37] <apw> marjo, i thought you could hear the drums
[16:37] <apw> which means the machine is up, so you can login over the network
[16:37] <marjo> apw: yes, so run it using ssh login, after the drum is heard, right?
[16:37] <marjo> apw: will do
[16:38] <apw> marjo, yes in both cases, working and not
[16:38] <marjo> apw: ack
[16:39] <apw> then the setup is the same in both cases, so any register differences are likely the problem
[16:39] <apw> marjo, but do upgrade to -12 beforehand
[16:39] <marjo> apw: ah yes
[17:03] <marjo> apw: bad news
[17:03]  * apw listens
[17:04] <marjo> apw: with latest grub-1.99~20110104 and kernel-12, kernel-11, i don't even hear drums any more!
[17:05] <marjo> apw: but i have intel_reg_dumper output for old grub & kernel-12 (which works)
[17:06] <apw> marjo, ok so boot -11 on both
[17:06] <marjo> apw: will do
[17:07] <apw> or whatever kernel works on both
[17:07] <apw> boots ok on both, not with working graphics obviously
[17:21] <marjo> apw: ok, i've got two dump files, how do you want them?
[17:21] <apw> marjo, on the bug please, label them appropriatly with kernel and grub versions in both
[17:22] <marjo> apw: oh wait; i need to get you -11 and old grub, sorry
[17:47] <marjo> apw ok attached two intel_reg_dumper outputs
[17:54] <apw> marjo, will this machine be in dallas next week?
[17:54] <marjo> apw: yes, it's my "travel netbook"
[18:00] <apw> marjo, cool then we can look at it some more then
[18:01] <apw> i think we need to get an intel_reg_dumper before X starts which is somewhat complex to descrive
[18:04] <apw> marjo, is 1126 the first one which works going back, ie. have you tried the ones in between
[18:06] <marjo> apw: 1126 was suggested by Sarvatt based on his analysis of when the breakage occurred
[18:07] <marjo> apw, i.e. before Alpha-1 release, since I confirmed that the Alpha-1 worked, remember?
[18:07] <apw> maxb, be handy to confirm exactly which version triggers this, the changes between the two grubs may help us understand
[18:07]  * maxb *blinks*, pays attention
[18:11] <apw> maxb, soz stupid xchat (or stupid apw)
[18:11] <apw> marjo, ^^
[18:12] <maxb> Heh. I have a i945 too :-)
[18:12] <marjo> apw: what do you want me to look at?!
[18:13] <apw> marjo, never mind we'll look next week
[18:13] <marjo> apw: ok thx; i'll bring an extra netbook, for backup
[18:13] <apw> cool
[20:48] <qoelqast> hi
[20:48] <qoelqast> I got: error setting MTRR when trying to load X, there's only X installed. What does this mean/how to fix?
[20:50] <bryceh> qoelqast, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Glossary#What%20are%20%22MTRR%22s?
[20:52] <qoelqast> bryceh:I read something on gentoo wiki, but is there a way to fix that?
[20:55] <qoelqast> bryceh: cat /proc/mtrr gives outpu: base=0x000000000 (     0MB),size=     128MB, count=1:write-back etc
[20:59] <qoelqast> Well, I guess the problem isn't X based? I'll try in default channel, thanks


[13:24] <Ubuntubruger3> i just installed ubunto on my other desktop and after the loading screen the screen just goes black and nothing happends


[18:45] <an0n432O> hi
[18:46] <jose> an0n432O: how can we help?
[18:46] <an0n432O> i was hoping i could offer some help
[18:47] <Myrtti> oh?


[03:39] <RoyK> telldrak: sendmail?
[03:40] <RoyK> telldrak: I haven't used sendmail for 10+ years
[03:40] <RoyK> telldrak: try postfix
[03:40]  * sarnold shivers
[03:42] <RoyK> Savemech: is that sendmail abstience, sir?
[03:43] <sarnold> RoyK: I've been clean and free from sendmail for 17 years sir, and I'd like to keep it that way. I'm really looking forward to my 20 year chip.
[03:43] <RoyK> hehe
[03:44] <RoyK> :)
[04:05] <patdk-lap> heh, I don't get the whole m4 stuff in sendmail
[04:05] <patdk-lap> sendmail is great at what it does, but being simple is not one of it's things
[04:05] <patdk-lap> but I do use sendmail, for things postfix cannot do, but that is pretty rare
[04:06] <JanC> what would that be?
[04:06] <patdk-lap> identd uucp mainly
[04:07] <patdk-lap> but sendmail.cf is just a scripting language, so it is infinitely adjustable, to completely non-smtp standards
[04:07] <sarnold> funny enough, I think the last time I used sendmail it was to bridge between uucp and mmdf.
[04:08] <patdk-lap> use it on customer webservers, for ident support :) makes tracing abuse much easier
[04:09] <patdk-lap> most of the time that is overkill, as the from is left to the default
[04:10] <sarnold> hah :)
[04:36] <telldrak> thanks for the feedback, guys
[04:36] <telldrak> looking into postfix instead
[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:38] <balintx> hi, I'm using ubuntu server 14.04 and Apache 2.4.16 from the repository. the problem is I get an email every 5 minutes from cron daemon stating * Starting web server apache2
[11:38] <balintx> anyone met this?
[11:39] <bekks> Check your cron configuration.
[18:13] <grendal_prime> ok who has time to look at an email server config with me?
[18:13] <grendal_prime> better yet..who is familar with zimbra?
[18:14] <grendal_prime> I got the install done and the server is working...just werid things....
[18:21] <Sling> yeah I used zimbra for about a year, but got fed up with the heavyweight stack
[18:21] <Sling> and now just run postfix+dovecot
[19:12] <grendal_prime> sling, ya i need something with calendaring built in
[19:13] <grendal_prime> so you got some time to help me wrap my head around a few things..im getting close but the whole email server thing and how i get it worked in with dns is starting to make me a little crazy.
[19:15] <grendal_prime> here is the layout.  I have a domain and a software router that handles the front door on that.   software router is doing its thing via iptables.  I also have a dhcp server on there and two seperate networks. One is a virtual host with about 20 servers running on it.
[19:16] <grendal_prime> its on say...<IP_ADDRESS> and the second network is for staff its on <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:16] <grendal_prime> my zimbra server .."zimbra" is running on the 108 subnet.
[19:18] <grendal_prime> now.  I set up a bind9 dns server and it seems to be working right now.  I have a zone for each of the subnets and one for the domain "booksnmore.com"
[19:19] <grendal_prime> zimbra server is accesible on local network as zimbra.booksnmore.com
[19:34] <RoyK> grendal_prime: and then?
[19:35] <grendal_prime> so i set up a mx record that was zimbra.booksnmore.com with nesol.
[19:35] <RoyK> nosol?
[19:35] <grendal_prime> and i was able to send email to my gmail account and back to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:36] <grendal_prime> network solutions ..sorry
[19:36] <grendal_prime> thing is ..i need the email address to be just booksnmore.com
[19:36] <grendal_prime><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:37] <RoyK> that's a zimbra config
[19:37] <RoyK> quite easy in the admin web
[20:16] <grendal_prime> ok...i guess i just dont get this..
[20:17] <grendal_prime> i have an a record
[20:17] <grendal_prime> then i create the mx record ...it points to the a record.
[20:18] <grendal_prime> do i need to create an A record that matches the mx record?
[20:19] <grendal_prime> so i have an A record of booksnmore.com   and an mx record of zimbra.booksnmore.com   thats it thats all i need at network solutions correct?
[23:33] <vacho> hey guys, I am installing a web server and I just deployed an ubuntu 14.04 image... I remember there are two recommended commands to run that will update everything to latest secury and stable, anyone care to help?
[23:38] <patdk-lap> autoupdates :)


[00:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Currently building (xenial/mir, zesty/mir). Failed to build (xenial/trust-store, zesty/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/pay-service, zesty/pay-service)
[00:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 Successfully built
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[02:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/mir). Failed to build (xenial/trust-store, zesty/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/pay-service, zesty/pay-service)
[02:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2693 Successfully built
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[03:35] <tedg> I'm not sure what's up with these autopkgtests, they seem unrelated (and passed on zesty). Could someone click refresh on them please? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/2675/xenial.html
[03:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Currently building (xenial/mir, zesty/mir). Failed to build (xenial/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/pay-service, zesty/pay-service, zesty/trust-store)
[04:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Currently building (xenial/mir). Failed to build (xenial/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/pay-service, zesty/pay-service, zesty/trust-store). Uploading build (zesty/mir)
[04:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/mir). Failed to build (xenial/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/pay-service, zesty/pay-service, zesty/trust-store)
[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Preparing packages
[06:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2697 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
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[07:04] <Saviq> Mirv, hey, can you please recycle the qtcreator fail in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/2668/xenial.html for us - I'm looking into the unity8 fails
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- andyrock Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2425 Abandoning ticket
[07:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Failed to build (zesty/unity). Successfully built (zesty/compiz, zesty/unity-control-center)
[07:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Preparing packages
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2624 Publish failed: paelzer not authorized to upload logrotate
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/mir). Pending binary packages (xenial/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/pay-service, zesty/pay-service, zesty/trust-store)
[07:52] <Saviq> sil2100, could you please rerun the qtcreator fail in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/2668/xenial.html please?
[07:52] <Saviq> please?
[07:52] <Saviq> ;)
[07:52] <Saviq> the i386 ones are UITK's segfaults, filing a bug now
[07:54] <sil2100> Saviq: on it
[07:54] <sil2100> Saviq: done!
[07:56] <Saviq> thanks
[07:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2697 Pending binary packages
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2698 Pending binary packages
[08:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Preparing packages
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2624 Successfully built
[08:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/mir). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/pay-service, xenial/trust-store, zesty/pay-service, zesty/trust-store)
[08:14] <Mirv> Saviq: sil2100: I think the QA allowed UITK to pass even though it hadn't been rebuilt after the qtdeclarative landing, so the new UITK landing reverted overlay version to something causing the crash tsdgeos found
[08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2699 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Successfully built
[08:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2697 Diff missing
[08:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[08:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2698 Diff missing
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2699 Generating diffs
[08:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2697 Generating diffs
[08:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2698 Generating diffs
[08:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2697 Successfully built
[08:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2698 Successfully built
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2623 Publishing packages
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[08:43] <Saviq> Mirv, so you think a rebuild of UITK would be enough?
[08:44] <Saviq> Mirv, could you upload no-change rebuilds to overlay then?
[08:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2650 QA Signoff: Approved
[08:48] <Mirv> Saviq: yes, that's why we did the rebuilds during qt landing. it's building.
[08:48] <Saviq> Mirv, ack, great, thanks
[08:57] <pete-woods> Saviq: is this the reason I'm seeing u8/uitk autopkgtest failures in my silos, too?
[08:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Preparing packages
[08:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8). Pending binary packages (xenial/miral). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[08:58] <pete-woods> any core-devs out there with privileges to land https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2640 ?
[08:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Failed to build (zesty/unity). Successfully built (zesty/compiz, zesty/unity-control-center)
[08:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Preparing packages
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2623 UNAPPROVED queue
[09:09] <Saviq> pete-woods, if they're limited to xenial/i386, very likely
[09:10] <pete-woods> Saviq: yeah, they are, good to know
[09:10] <pete-woods> struggling to figure out what I'd broken after repeated failures
[09:13] <pete-woods> sil2100: any chance of a packaging ACK on https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2640 ? (it's a dead simple added build-dep that doesn't make it into runtime deps)
[09:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[09:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2624 Publishing packages
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Failed to build (zesty/accounts-qml-module). Successfully built (zesty/unity-action-api)
[09:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2699 Release pocket
[09:23] <Saviq> Mirv, confirmed fixing
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Failed to build (zesty/unity). Successfully built (zesty/compiz, zesty/unity-control-center)
[09:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2624 UNAPPROVED queue
[09:52] <sil2100> pete-woods: looking!
[09:52] <pete-woods> sil2100: thanks!
[09:54] <sil2100> pete-woods: so libqtdbustest1-dev is just a built-time dep, right?
[09:54] <sil2100> For tests?
[09:54] <pete-woods> sil2100: correct
[09:54] <pete-woods> yeah
[09:54] <pete-woods> (and also in main)
[09:55] <sil2100> I see it in universe for zesty ;p But anyway, it's all good
[09:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2640 Publishing packages
[09:56] <pete-woods> \o/
[09:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Currently building (xenial/unity8). Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8). Pending binary packages (xenial/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-api, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/unity-api). Uploading build (zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[10:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2700 Failed to build
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2663 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (zesty/unity-api)
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Preparing packages
[10:10] <Mirv> Saviq: yep, all should be possible to retry now
[10:10] <Saviq> Mirv, could you, please https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/2668/xenial.html
[10:11] <Saviq> I'm not sure about the qtcreator one, it got restarted once already, I very much doubt unity8 is at fault
[10:11] <Saviq> so might actually be the same problem, or something else entirely
[10:13] <Mirv> Saviq: restarted. my silo also showed qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu armhf, no idea what's up but it's not your silo's fault.
[10:13] <Mirv> restarted also those anyway
[10:14] <Saviq> thank you
[10:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Successfully built
[10:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity-api). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[10:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2640 Release pocket (xenial/unity-api). UNAPPROVED queue (zesty/unity-api)
[10:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2623 Proposed pocket (zesty/logrotate). UNAPPROVED queue (xenial/logrotate, yakkety/logrotate)
[10:28] <pete-woods> Mirv: any chance you could do the same for this silo? (https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/2675/xenial.html)
[10:28] <pete-woods> this break seems to have had far-reaching impact
[10:30] <Saviq> jibel, can we please get https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 into your queue - the failures are due to bug #1679966 - Mirv rebuilt and re-ran our tests, but zesty (the real target for this) was fine anyway
[10:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2616 Failed to build (zesty/unity). Successfully built (zesty/compiz, zesty/unity-control-center)
[10:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2700 Failed to build
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- abeato, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2678 QA Signoff: Ready
[10:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[10:45] <Mirv> pete-woods: sure
[10:46] <Mirv> pete-woods: yes, our system is not really designed for stuff like "when X lands, remember to force rebuilds in all silos that have same packages as X had"
[10:47] <Mirv> that'd be useful feature though
[11:00] <Saviq> rvr, can we please get https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 into your queue - the failures are due to bug #1679966 - Mirv rebuilt and re-ran our tests, but zesty (the real target for this) was fine anyway
[11:00] <rvr> Saviq: Let me check
[11:01] <rvr> I see
[11:01] <rvr> Saviq: Marked as ready
[11:02] <rvr> And this is a priority silo
[11:02] <Saviq> rvr, thank you
[11:02] <Saviq> rvr, yes
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl Saviq, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 QA Signoff: Ready
[11:08] <ltinkl> Saviq, thanks!
[11:08] <ltinkl> rvr, too ofc :)
[11:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity-api). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[11:20] <Mirv> sil2100: yay, it's always nice to find someone working on an old bug :) (1626469)
[11:20] <Mirv> I'm still waiting for some teams on bug #1342031 though..
[11:27] <vigo> ahayzen, ping
[11:27] <ahayzen> vigo, pong
[11:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[11:30] <vigo> ahayzen, I'm on silo 2642, I can see a notification after printing something
[11:30] <vigo> but not a queue
[11:31] <vigo> ahayzen, ok the print icon in uss I guess is that
[11:31] <ahayzen> vigo, the queue should appear in the dashboard thing in unity8, as an application you can launch
[11:31] <ahayzen> but it should *not* appear under unity7
[11:32] <ahayzen> vigo, if you have installed the applications while running unity8 you maybe need to restart the session for that dashboard thing to update i've found
[11:34] <vigo> ahayzen, ack thanks
[11:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2642 QA Signoff: Approved
[11:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2663 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8)
[11:49] <Mirv> ubuntu-qa: can you insert https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1949 to the QA queue? as usual, landings involving qtbase do not get all green automatic testing because of KDE failures, but all of our stack has Passed and the silo is ready for testing
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1949 QA Signoff: Ready
[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Currently building (xenial/qtmir, zesty/qtmir). Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/qtmir, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[12:32] <vigo> Mirv, ping
[12:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2648 QA Signoff: Approved
[12:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Currently building (xenial/unity8). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/qtmir, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2623 Release pocket (zesty/logrotate). UNAPPROVED queue (xenial/logrotate, yakkety/logrotate)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 Preparing packages
[12:45] <Mirv> vigo: pong
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 zesty/unity-api: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity-api/launcheritem-description
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 Preparing packages
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2639 Preparing packages
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2648 Publishing packages
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2610 Preparing packages
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2688 Preparing packages
[12:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Currently building (xenial/unity8). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/qtmir, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[12:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2637 Needs rebuild due to new commits
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2661 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session). Successfully built (zesty/indicator-session)
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity-api). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity-api). Ready to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity8)
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2680 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/indicator-session). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-bluetooth, xenial/indicator-datetime, xenial/indicator-power, xenial/indicator-sound, xenial/libindicator, xenial/policykit-unity8, xenial/unity8, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, zesty/indicator-bluetooth, zesty/indicator-datetime, zesty/indicator-power, zesty/indicator-session, zest
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2642 Publishing packages
[13:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2648 Release pocket (xenial/indicator-session). UNAPPROVED queue (zesty/indicator-session)
[13:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2688 Successfully built
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2693 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub)
[13:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/qtmir, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenial/unity8, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2639 Successfully built
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 Preparing packages
[13:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2642 Proposed pocket (zesty/qtubuntu-print, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app). Release pocket (xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/unity8-desktop-session). UNAPPROVED queue (zesty/unity8-desktop-session)
[13:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity-api). Pending binary packages (zesty/qtmir). Ready to build (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir-gles). Uploading build (xenial/qtmir)
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2610 Pending binary packages (xenial/indicator-network). Successfully built (zesty/indicator-network)
[13:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 Preparing packages
[14:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2702 Preparing packages
[14:05] <jgdx> trainguards: hey, would the command in [1] not "work" in silos anymore? We seem to get the host arch, not the target arch as output. [1] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24320448/
[14:05] <jgdx> dobey, related to the thing yesterday^
[14:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2499 QA Signoff: Failed
[14:09] <dobey> jgdx: what is "exec_program" exactly? i've never used gcc to get that value when needed though
[14:09] <jgdx> dobey, you used dpkg?
[14:10] <dobey> jgdx: yeah, dpkg-query i think, and in debian/rules instead of the cmake itself, for setting LIBDIR (though i don't think that is even needed any more)
[14:10] <jgdx> dobey, okay, cheers. Will try dropping it entirely and then dpkg if that fails.
[14:12] <dobey> err
[14:12] <dobey> dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH
[14:13] <jgdx> yes, makes sense
[14:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2610 Successfully built
[14:13] <dobey> yeah, doesn't look like we even use it still in the click scope build anyway
[14:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh renato bfiller, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2629 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/dialer-app, zesty/telephony-service). Ready to build (xenial/online-accounts-api). Release pocket (zesty/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/address-book-service, xenial/dialer-app, xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, xenial/indicator-transfer-buteo, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-app, x
[14:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh renato bfiller, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2629 Preparing packages
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2703 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[14:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2701 Ready to build (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 Preparing packages
[14:35] <vigo> tedg, ping
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[14:41] <vigo> tedg,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24320611/
[14:42] <tedg> vigo: Looks good, let me finally update those tests.
[14:42] <vigo> tedg, cool! thanks
[14:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2642 Release pocket (xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, zesty/qtubuntu-print, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app). UNAPPROVED queue (zesty/unity8-desktop-session)
[14:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2692 Preparing packages
[14:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2675 QA Signoff: Approved
[14:54] <tedg> Thanks vigo !
[14:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh renato bfiller, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2629 Pending binary packages (xenial/telephony-service). Ready to build (xenial/online-accounts-api). Release pocket (zesty/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/address-book-service, xenial/dialer-app, xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, xenial/indicator-transfer-buteo, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-framework,
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2703 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2675 Publishing packages
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2703 Generating diffs
[15:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2703 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Publishing packages
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Publish failed: Bad merges
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Preparing packages
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh renato bfiller, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2629 Ready to build (xenial/online-accounts-api). Release pocket (zesty/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/address-book-service, xenial/dialer-app, xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, xenial/indicator-transfer-buteo, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, xenial/telepathy-mission-con
[15:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2692 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (xenial/unity8). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/unity-api, zesty/unity-api)
[15:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 Successfully built
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2692 Preparing packages
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/qtmir, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenial/unity8, zesty/mir, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[15:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2695 QA Signoff: Approved
[15:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2702 Successfully built
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 Failed to build (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/libertine, zesty/libertine)
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2704 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2695 Publishing packages
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Successfully built
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2675 Release pocket (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). UNAPPROVED queue (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch)
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2562 QA Signoff:
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2562 NEW queue (zesty/ubuntu-filemanager-app). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-filemanager-app)
[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Currently building (xenial/mir, zesty/mir). Failed to build (xenial/trust-store). Pending binary packages (zesty/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/pay-service, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/pay-service, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 QA Signoff: Approved
[15:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2695 NEW queue (zesty/ubuntu-filemanager-app). Release pocket (xenial/ubuntu-filemanager-app)
[16:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 Publishing packages
[16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2704 Diff missing (zesty/numactl). Ready to build (yakkety/numactl)
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Currently building (xenial/mir, zesty/mir). Failed to build (xenial/trust-store). Successfully built (xenial/pay-service, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/pay-service, zesty/trust-store, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2704 Generating diffs
[16:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2704 Ready to build (yakkety/numactl). Successfully built (zesty/numactl)
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 QA Signoff:
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 Preparing packages
[16:12] <Saviq> rvr, thanks!
[16:12] <Saviq> mterry, publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 please?
[16:12] <rvr> Saviq: You're welcome. And faster than me, I was about to ping you :D
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl Saviq, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 QA Signoff: Approved
[16:13] <Saviq> rvr, with Trello notifications, there's nothing that hides from me ;)
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Preparing packages
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2692 Successfully built
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2679 Preparing packages
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2696 UNAPPROVED queue
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Currently building (xenial/qtmir). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtmir). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/mir, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/miral, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenial/unity8, zesty/miral, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
[16:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2704 Successfully built
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2692 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/unity-api)
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[16:46] <Saviq> mterry, publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 please?
[16:51] <mterry> Saviq: looking
[16:51] <mterry> tests failed?
[16:52] <mterry> Ah I see commens
[16:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl Saviq, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 Publishing packages
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[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl Saviq, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2668 Release pocket (xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity8). UNAPPROVED queue (zesty/qmenumodel, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity8)
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[17:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2694 Bad merges (zesty/unity8). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/unity8)
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bschaefer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2683 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/mir). Successfully built (xenial/mir, xenial/pay-service, xenial/trust-store, xenial/unity-system-compositor, zesty/pay-service, zesty/trust-store, zesty/unity-system-compositor)
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[19:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 QA Signoff: Approved
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[20:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 QA Signoff:
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[07:31] <ackeronuk> does git push webhooks backend need a poke to get it working again, or just being slow?
[07:40] <ackeronuk> 14 minutes since git push and counting.
[07:52] <ackeronuk> 26 mins. I guess that has fallen over....
[08:09] <cipri_tom> hi all. how can I remove a bug report that I submitted? (and later realised I was doing a mistake, so it is not a bug)
[08:10] <blahdeblah_> cipri_tom: just mark it as invalid and explain why
[08:15] <cipri_tom> blahdeblah_: thanks for the quick reply! I cannot find a link to mark as invalid. This is a bug report in a project that does not belong to me
[08:15] <blahdeblah_> cipri_tom: what's the bug number?
[08:15] <cipri_tom> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lxml/+bug/1799980
[08:16] <cipri_tom> ah, I had to expand the little arrow in the `Affects` table
[08:16] <blahdeblah_> You don't see status of new right there in the yellow line?
[08:17] <blahdeblah_> If you make a comment about why it's not a bug, I can mark it Invalid for you.
[08:17] <cipri_tom> ok, changed to invalid. Wished I could erase it, though >.< ... traces of me not paying attention
[08:17] <blahdeblah_> Be shameless! :-)
[08:18] <cipri_tom> :)) alright. Thanks a lot !
[08:18] <cipri_tom> have a nice day! ^^
[08:18] <blahdeblah_> you too! :-)
[08:21] <ackeronuk> 55 mins
[08:24] <ackeronuk> and 3 hanging webhooks delivered :)
[11:35] <kbroulik> Hi, again hit a timeout when submitting a bugreport: 84fc5cd6531b0364505fc12f085f21ee
[11:40] <cjwatson> Wait ten minutes and try again.  Can't do better for you right now
[11:41] <cjwatson> Looks like it was quite close to the timeout though so a simple retry may well work
[11:44] <cjwatson> Ah, just a sec ...
[11:47] <cjwatson> kbroulik: Sorry, not quite what I first thought it was.  What happened here is that you entered "libssh-dev" into the package name box, apparently not using the search button which would have offered you the source package name "libssh".  This then caused a form error which triggered a rather slow search.
[11:48] <cjwatson> kbroulik: It looks like you got it filed in the end, but for future reference either using the search button to find the right package or entering the source package (libssh in this case) directly would have avoided the timeout.
[11:51] <kbroulik> cjwatson: thanks, yeah when I went back and submitted again it then told me that the package didnt exist. it could have obviously told me when I submitted it the first time..
[11:52] <kbroulik> I actually was on the page of the package but the "file a bug" button there only lead to some awfully long wiki article
[11:53] <kbroulik> I'll keep it in mind for next time anyway :D thanks :)
[14:11] <ackeronuk> launchpad git is still not updating properly
[14:11] <ackeronuk> e.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kfind/+ref/kubuntu_unstable
[14:12] <ackeronuk> not registering actual latest commit in https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kfind/log/?h=kubuntu_unstable
[14:12] <ackeronuk> so no webhook triggered
[14:18] <ackeronuk> hmmm. push to another repo updated immediately. a bit hit and miss


[02:01] <rick_h__> http://www.betanews.com/article/Apples-server-biz-relegated-to-prosumer-status-with-Xserves-end/1296513722
[12:30] <_stink_> fun!  water in the basement.
[12:49] <rick_h__> _stink_: ugh :(
[12:49] <rick_h__> _stink_: sump not playing nice?
[12:51] <brousch> another flooded basement?
[12:55] <rick_h__> seems to be par for the rainy couse
[12:55] <rick_h__> we better get some good may flowers out of this
[12:56] <brousch> my wife was pissed. she came home last night and the hostas had been eaten been rabbits
[13:00] <_stink_> rick_h__: we actually don't have a sump.  afaik most of the houses around here don't, or have had them filled in.  not sure why
[13:00] <rick_h__> _stink_: ah, ok.
[13:01] <_stink_> but it looks like the pipe out to the city sewer is partially blocked.
[13:01] <_stink_> so the rain water couldn't join up and drain out.
[13:01] <_stink_> so through the walls it came.
[13:08] <brousch> lovely
[13:09] <_stink_> and of course, we can't use the water till the line is snaked or whatever.
[13:09] <brousch> stick ur arm down in there
[13:10] <rick_h__> ah the joys of home ownership
[13:10] <rick_h__> you know growing up my uncle told me to never buy a house
[13:10] <rick_h__> and I just laughed
[13:10] <rick_h__> but after owning one...hmmm...not sure if I agree more
[13:11] <brousch> yeah, pita
[13:16] <_stink_> yeah, we were just commisserating about that here.
[13:19] <brousch> if i weren't married i would live in a tiny apartment
[13:19] <brousch> no lawn to mow, no appliances to fix myself, just me and my computer
[13:20] <brousch> and would get bored out of my mind after a week
[13:20] <rick_h__> only thing is I'd miss the dog
[13:20] <rick_h__> but yea, I remember my days of my two bedroom appt with my bedroom/office
[13:28] <brousch> i'm so tired of our dogs
[13:28] <snap-l> Yay, four inches of water under the house.
[13:28] <brousch> snap-l: yikes!
[13:29] <rick_h__> well, under the house is ok right?
[13:29] <rick_h__> as long as it's not in the house
[13:29] <snap-l> rick_h__: Yeah, I think this is par for this house
[13:29] <snap-l> BUt this morning I heard running water under the house
[13:29] <snap-l> so I went outside to dig it a little away from the grate where it was coming in like gangbusters.
[13:30] <snap-l> Apparently Royal Oak has a problem with this. :)
[13:31] <snap-l> Maybe because we don't have drainage ditches
[13:49] <brousch> how do you have water under a house?
[13:49] <brousch> is it on stilts?
[13:50] <jrwren> brousch: wtf would I write an IE extension?   shame on you!
[13:50] <rick_h__> jrwren: hah! come on, we're relying on you
[13:50] <rick_h__> doesn't IE have extensions now?
[13:52] <jrwren> yes
[13:52] <jrwren> but i ain't writing one.
[13:53] <rick_h__> boooo, non-team player
[13:54] <jrwren> does this work pay?
[13:55] <rick_h__> no, it's OSS
[13:55] <rick_h__> it's "for fun"
[13:55] <snap-l> brousch: There's a crawl space under the house
[13:55] <jrwren> i can't think of anything fun about writing an IE extension
[13:55] <snap-l> so it's not a proper basement
[13:56] <rick_h__> jrwren: and that's why I told my wife there will never be a bookie extension for IE
[13:57] <jrwren> what would an extension do that a bookmarklet wouldn't do?
[13:57] <jrwren> I always hated delicious extension and much prefered the bookmarklet
[13:58] <rick_h__> let's you edit, add tags, provides auto completion of tags as you type, tag hints, etc
[13:58] <rick_h__> retrieves existing data if you've already bookmarked the current page
[13:58] <jrwren> bookmarklet does all that for me.
[13:59] <brousch> a bookie browser toolbar!
[14:00] <rick_h__> ah crap
[14:02] <snap-l> The Natty is released
[14:02] <brousch> ie users can keep it right between their google toolbar and yahoo toolbar
[14:03] <ColonelPanic001> rick_h__: I'd like to learn more Android dev stuff. Interested in a Bookie app?
[14:04] <brousch> snap-l: i guess that explains why my dist-upgrade fell to modem speed
[14:04] <snap-l> a-yep
[14:05] <snap-l> The intertubes are plugged in Canonicalville
[14:05] <rick_h__> ColonelPanic001: completely if you'd like
[14:06] <rick_h__> I'd be more than happy to help with any API stuff you might need/etc
[14:06] <ColonelPanic001> it's more interesting than "hello world" style book examples
[14:06] <rick_h__> Yea, I always like learning with something more interesting
[14:06] <rick_h__> and since bookie pulls/parses pages you can actually display the bookmark content as well
[14:06] <brousch> ColonelPanic001: you thinking native android or something less java?
[14:06] <rick_h__> we can add some api access for that and searches
[14:06] <ColonelPanic001> native
[14:06] <snap-l> You mean there's more to programming than Hello World?
[14:06] <snap-l> Shit, I have a lot of catching up to do
[14:07] <rick_h__> snap-l: only for those that are insane
[14:07] <ColonelPanic001> for work, I do mobile dev with RhoMobile.
[14:08] <brousch> "Rhodes is an open source Ruby-based framework to rapidly build native apps for all major smartphone operating systems"
[14:08] <brousch> ewwwwwwwwwww
[14:09] <ColonelPanic001> it's like stripped-down Rails (as far as this non-rails guy can see) that runs on a phone.
[14:09] <snap-l> brousch: Would you rather write Java?
[14:09] <brousch> appcelerator uses javascript
[14:09] <rick_h__> Blazeix: doh, there was that X crash again
[14:10] <brousch> phonegap too
[14:10] <ColonelPanic001> yeah, phonegap was another one they considered
[14:10] <ColonelPanic001> they did this and decided before I was hired in, though, so don't know what they were weighing as pros and cons
[14:13] <jjesse> did 11.04 release yet?  i kinda lost track of the actual release date
[14:13] <snap-l> Just in time for !penguicon, it's !openmetalcast Club Metal Episode 2. http://ur1.ca/41fl5 Jack into the mainframe and get this episode!
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> yeah
[14:13] <snap-l> jjesse: It's released.
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> I just got the notification in my update thinger
[14:13] <jjesse> nice
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> I'll probably backup adn do it on Monday.
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> same on the desktop at home. It's a couple releases behind now, I think.
[14:13] <jjesse> seemed to not have the same excitement at home
[14:14] <jjesse> sorry
[14:14] <jjesse> seemed not to have the same excitment as last release (saw more announcements)
[14:14] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm still on LTS at home
[14:14] <snap-l> jjesse: I think it was more heads-down this release
[14:14] <snap-l> lot of moving parts
[14:14] <snap-l> And frankly, not as much excitement over Unity
[14:15] <snap-l> (or I should say positive excitement)
[14:15] <snap-l> I'm seeing a lot of loud defections to other OSes this release
[14:15] <jjesse> interseting
[14:15] <snap-l> s/OSes/distros/
[14:16] <jjesse> so whats the hot distro right now?
[14:16] <snap-l> nfc
[14:16] <snap-l> Think once Unity gets more mature Ubuntu will get the faithful back
[14:16] <snap-l> Haven't used Gnome shell in a while
[14:17] <snap-l> Problem is, no matter which distro you go to, you'll have to think
[14:18] <snap-l> and that's one thing we've grown stale about. The environment just works
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> I'm on Kubuntu anyway. Don't care what the main distro does with Unity.
[14:24] <brousch> yeah, you're used to an annoying ui and breakages every few months
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> never really broke for me. Maybe the gnome users aren't used to being able to change a setting.
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> I guess it can be annoying, having choices.
[14:25] <brousch> distracting
[14:25] <ColonelPanic001> I bet if you call up apple, you could get a one-button mouse, too
[14:26] <brousch> no button mouse
[14:26] <brousch> trackpad and taps
[14:26] <ColonelPanic001> but then there's both the x and y axis. That's too much choice.
[14:37] <greg-g> g'morning all
[14:37] <ColonelPanic001> 'morning
[14:38] <snap-l> Good morning, greg-g
[14:49] <ColonelPanic001> none of my usual group is going to Penguicon but me.
[14:49] <ColonelPanic001> Aw well. Free beer and cosplaying girls is all I need.
[14:50] <brousch> just make sure they're really girls
[14:51] <ColonelPanic001> If I check, might find out otherwise. Ignorance is bliss.
[14:51] <greg-g> and as long as they're attractive, they're attractive, right?
[14:52] <ColonelPanic001> ^
[15:16] <greg-g> oo, updates for 10.10 today as well
[15:16] <greg-g> don't worry, I'm not hitting that "Upgrade to 11.04" button quite yet ;)
[15:17] <brousch> doit
[15:20] <ColonelPanic001> Be brave
[15:21] <ColonelPanic001> throw caution into the wind, and upgrade without backups
[15:31] <Blazeix> rick_h__: that sucks. fyi https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117668
[15:34] <krondor> rich_h__:  how was chc, didn't get the approval from Em, something about penguicon time suck etc...
[15:40] <snap-l> is flickr down?
[15:41] <brousch> snap-l: broken for me
[15:42] <snap-l> bah
[15:45] <ColonelPanic001> I haven't used flickr in ages. I stopped taking pictures, I guess.
[15:45] <ColonelPanic001> and yeah, spinning its wheels for me, too
[15:51] <greg-g> it is working for me, I'm logged in, if that matters
[15:51] <greg-g> I take that back, it worked to pull up my photostream, but not an individual photo page
[15:52] <greg-g> http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/ vs http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/5587639244/in/photostream
[15:56] <brousch> i'm kind of excited about the demo tonight. it's nice to have brand new features to show
[15:56] <brousch> instead of a list of new versions of the same old programs
[16:10] <brousch> http://clusterbleep.net/files/Ubuntu_11.04_Unity_Cheat_Sheet.odt
[16:10] <brousch> i added in screen shots and labels of UI elements from another askubuntu thread
[16:10] <brousch> very useful now
[16:12] <rick_h__> Blazeix: cool, thanks for the link
[16:12] <rick_h__> krondor: went went, had a good crowd and got some bookie hacking done
[16:12] <rick_h__> http://rick.bmark.us/ updated the ui on my demo install with some better colors/icons
[16:12] <rick_h__> greg-g: ^
[16:13] <ColonelPanic001> looks nice
[16:15] <brousch> purdy
[16:23] <krondor> got my psn account compromise notice from sony today.    Easy to reset passwords on other sites/open lines of credit/find out SS numbers when you know security questions + email address and such.
[16:32] <rick_h__> yea, the security questions are a huge deal
[16:32] <greg-g> yeah, that crap sucks :(
[16:32] <rick_h__> almost wish the db came out so people would reset accounts based on the leaked emails like the gawker case
[16:32] <rick_h__> obviously that's bad so not all the way hoping, but ugh
[16:33] <ColonelPanic001> suddenly I'm glad I've never used PSN
[16:33] <krondor> I'd say it's preferable full disclosure and leak of what is out then never seeing it... block out the passwords on the leak (but they'd never do that).  I do like seeing the stats on most used password and such
[16:34] <brousch> passwords were stolen? not just hashes?
[16:34] <ColonelPanic001> I *heard* they weren't even hashed.
[16:34] <ColonelPanic001> heard, though.
[16:35] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Worse, it was also sent to the terminal unhashed
[16:35] <snap-l> (from what I've heard)
[16:35] <brousch> geez
[16:36] <krondor> the email reads like unhashed; http://pastebin.com/Xx4hCGD3
[16:37] <snap-l> Yeah, this is a major clusterfuck
[16:37] <ColonelPanic001> I'd say something about stupid programmers, but they probably are as pissed as everyone else. Probably some retarded middle manager dictated it.
[16:37] <snap-l> Also heard that developers had access to production systems, and vice versa
[16:37] <ColonelPanic001> frak knows why
[16:37] <snap-l> Major cock-up
[16:38] <brousch> Qriocity? is that read as curio city or curiosity?
[16:38] <ColonelPanic001> "major cock-up" should mean a good thing. When my cock is majorly up, it's not a bad thing.
[16:38] <ColonelPanic001> well, not for me anyway
[16:39] <brousch> depends on where you are when it happens
[16:39] <ColonelPanic001> touche
[16:40] <greg-g> eg: Penguicon?
[16:40] <snap-l> depends on what area of Penguicon. ;)
[16:40] <ColonelPanic001> depends on where you are when it happens
[16:40] <greg-g> lol
[16:41] <ColonelPanic001> see my earlier post about penguicon, for example ;)
[16:41] <_stink_> or if you're dressed like Tronguy
[16:41] <ColonelPanic001> or if that.
[16:41] <ColonelPanic001> "Think about Cmdr. Adama... Think about Cmdr. Adama... OH GOD IT'S WORSE NOW"
[16:42] <snap-l> Just set up my e-mail so it'll work with Mutt
[16:42] <snap-l> couldn't sent e-mail from Mutt
[16:42] <snap-l> OK, now that meeting is done, time to retrieve my trash bags.
[16:44] <greg-g> snap-l: weee! mutt!
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> ...
[17:06] <snap-l> Yay, got some games in the mail in trade for Civilization
[17:06] <snap-l> Knightmare Chess 1/2, and The Stars Are Right
[17:06]  * snap-l is feeling the love
[17:46] <PainBank1> yo, when does reg desk at Penguicon open up at this weekend?
[17:52] <snap-l> NFC
[17:53] <PainBank1> WTF, GaFC
[17:53] <PainBank1> :D
[17:54] <snap-l> nfw
[17:55] <PainBank1> haha
[18:10] <greg-g> ruh roh, I think my full harddisk caused some problems with my maildir
[18:12] <rick_h__> oops
[18:12] <snap-l> oh, that sucks
[18:12] <rick_h__> if I could figure out attachments I'd love to just run mutt on the server like I do irssi
[18:12]  * greg-g nods
[18:12] <greg-g> same
[18:12] <rick_h__> but that extra layer of getting attachments down to view is a pita
[18:13] <greg-g> weird, offlineimap runs fine, no errors, but mutt isn't starting up
[18:13] <greg-g> and ctrl-c isn't stopping it
[18:13] <greg-g> harumph!
[18:14] <greg-g> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/301/
[18:15] <greg-g> I think I messed up when I restarted my laptop, started up my usual 4/5 mutt instances, and the disk was already full at that time
[18:16] <greg-g> ruh roh! my ls in .mutt/ is hanging
[18:17] <greg-g> and I was planning on being uber productive this afternoon! :(
[18:18] <snap-l> Means something likely has it locked
[18:18] <snap-l> reboot?
[18:18] <rick_h__> hmmm, but it's an offlineimap sync right?
[18:19] <rick_h__> I mean you can blow that away and not really lose anything right?
[18:19] <greg-g> rick_h__: well, now I'm thinking offlineimap wasn't the issue, but instead mutt
[18:19] <rick_h__> hmmm, interesting
[18:21] <greg-g> snap-l: that is my next attempt....
[18:21] <snap-l> Yeah, sounds like something isn't releasing a lock or something
[18:22] <snap-l> or the filesystem got mounted read-only, possibly?
[18:22] <rick_h__> if you've got several mutt running maybe some command went haywire?
[18:22] <rick_h__> notmuch search or something?
[18:27] <greg-g> reboot worked
[18:27] <greg-g> sad I had to
[18:28] <rick_h__> interesting
[18:28] <rick_h__> rsync email /dev/sdb1
[18:30] <snap-l> Working out the playlist for Open Metalcast 20 that I'm going to be putting together at Penguicon
[18:30] <snap-l> Should be brutal
[18:30] <snap-l> Funny thing is I'm listening to the playlist before putting it into the show
[18:31] <snap-l> usually I do that after the show is put together. ;)
[18:32] <greg-g> heh
[18:36] <brousch> rick_h__: what about a dropbox-like program for syncing attachments from mutt? save attachment to dir, that dir syncs to your local machine
[18:37] <greg-g> brousch: still a couple more steps then just pressing <enter> to open the file :/
[18:38] <brousch> i suppose
[18:39] <brousch> but then you're running a console-based mail client, so you must enjoy pushing keys
[18:39] <greg-g> :P
[18:40] <rick_h__> brousch: what I have thought of is to write a script with a config to a public http accessible dir
[18:40] <rick_h__> and then generating a link to it that you could paste into a browser/click on
[18:41] <rick_h__> but the big thing then is dealing with the fact that it's open and needs periodic cleanup
[18:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: cronjob that deletes files every 20 minutes?
[18:41] <rick_h__> and I don't know how to write scripts for mutt
[18:41] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea
[18:41] <brousch> i think dropbox would work better
[18:41] <rick_h__> meh, how so?
[18:41] <brousch> then it's private and easy to clean out
[18:41] <rick_h__> you'd have to copy it off site, and then download it
[18:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: they're just your run of the mill bash/whatever script that takes piped input and parses it, does something, returns
[18:41] <rick_h__> double transfer
[18:42] <rick_h__> brousch: and then you've got the reverse problem still, how do I add an attachment
[18:42] <brousch> you want to run mutt on a server through screen right?
[18:42] <rick_h__> brousch: right
[18:42] <brousch> add attchment, just stick it in the synced folder
[18:43] <brousch> then attach on the server
[18:43] <rick_h__> ic
[18:43] <rick_h__> maybe
[18:43] <brousch> use a free 2GB acct and share it with your paid acct
[18:43] <greg-g> actually, the dropbox method might not be a bad idea.... I have dropbox running my server... and that's where all my working documents live anyways..... at least for attaching, it isn't any different. For opening, it is an extra couple steps
[18:44] <brousch> save it, twiddle thumbs, double-click it
[18:44] <rick_h__> yea, I guess I've not setup on my server (actually not reset up on my laptop yet either)
[18:44] <brousch> heck, that's how i view half of my attachments now
[18:44] <rick_h__> yea, gotcha
[18:51] <brousch> my god. autodesk inventor 2010 is 6 DVDs to install, and then there are 7 service packs totaling about 250MB for x86 and 500MB for amd64
[18:56] <greg-g> rick_h__: though, a combo Dropbox/U1 and your script would be awesome. script takes the attachement, saves it to your attachment_tmp dir, asks Dropbox/U1 for the priate URL of that file, displays it in that buffer area for you (before you "hit any key to continue")
[18:57] <greg-g> that way, you can either go to the URL or just navigate to the folder in your laptop's Dropbox/U1 folder
[18:58] <binbrain> Pandora broke Pithos yesterday, fixed today, FTW
[19:02] <greg-g> binbrain: nice!
[19:02] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea
[19:02] <rick_h__> that would be cool
[19:02] <rick_h__> hah, bring your kids to work day has turned into a type-off
[19:02]  * greg-g adds it to his someday list
[19:03] <greg-g> lol
[19:03] <rick_h__> 12 words a second for one kid, 22 for another, and I had to bust out the 91
[19:03] <greg-g> I saw some facilties guys downstairs this morning with their daughters in tow, it was awesome
[19:03] <rick_h__> wooo! I can crush 12yr olds!
[19:03] <greg-g> rick_h__: you jerk
[19:03] <rick_h__> now that my self estime is lifted for the day, maybe I'll try to get some work done
[19:03] <greg-g> :)
[19:03] <rick_h__> now they need a vim mode for that lol
[19:04] <jrwren> heh, Jennifer Marsman just texted me asking if I was going to penguicon.
[19:04] <rick_h__> man, I should be doing that "kids...this is vim..."
[19:04] <rick_h__> get the pollution going
[19:04] <jrwren> who are these kids?
[19:04] <brousch> more python tiling wm candy for rick_h__ http://pytyle.com/wiki/Main_Page
[19:05] <brousch> rick_h__: now try to best them at sms
[19:05] <rick_h__> jrwren: co-workers kids
[19:06] <rick_h__> hah, everyone wants some tiling
[19:12] <binbrain> YATM taken yet? (yet another tiling manager)
[19:34] <krondor> rick_h__:  did you end up getting CM7 on it...
[19:34] <rick_h__> krondor: yea, I've had CM7, but GPS issues still
[19:35] <rick_h__> some known problems with people that have been through some upgrades
[19:35] <rick_h__> did some dd hacks that didn't work, next up is flashing the radio, but have to get the android dev tools to do that
[19:36] <krondor> yeah I was going to say I'd go to a radio flash, radio is closely tied to GPS as they're the same chip
[19:37] <brousch> i had issues when i was overclocking. i went back to stock speed and a few issues stopped
[19:37] <rick_h__> yea, just getting nervous that everything I'm told to try has "this can brick your phone" tied to it
[19:37] <rick_h__> yea, no overclocking, jst stock CM7
[19:38] <krondor> rick_h__:  hmm see this; http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20259-no-gps-lock-using-cm70-stable-rom-on-htc-incredible/ looks like people have a range of success from new radios to uninstalling weatherbug (wtf?) to formatting their sd card (double wtf?)
[19:38] <brousch> my big problem was camera flash and shutter out of sync
[19:38] <rick_h__> krondor: yea, so no weatherbug
[19:38] <rick_h__> and the sd card thing is that there's some metadata on the card that needs to be reset that this dd command is supposed to clear
[19:38] <brousch> i run weatherbug, but it is a slow hog if you run it in the background instead of on demand
[19:38] <rick_h__> and new radio is last on the list for me
[19:39] <krondor> you'll have to let me know what it turns out being
[19:39] <rick_h__> well if it's not the radio not sure what to do next
[19:39] <rick_h__> getting time for a new phone... :)
[19:40] <brousch> bah, i'm stilling using original android
[19:40] <krondor> brousch
[19:40] <krondor> g1?
[19:41] <brousch> sorry, original droid
[19:42] <krondor> sorry finger slipped hit enter by mistake.  Oh yeah my droid 1 died (digitizer fail), 3 dollars for the chip with some serious solder skills for surface mount or 80 dollars to replace at a cell repair shop on 9 mile.  I gave it to my bro in law and bought a captivate on craigslist.
[19:42] <krondor> droid 1 was great though.   I did run Gentoo until recently, for what it's worth.
[19:50] <snap-l> I sit in quiet adminration
[19:51] <snap-l> admiration, even
[20:13] <rick_h__> man, I love pyramid, so much nicer than pylons
[20:15] <binbrain> I think its arguably the cleanest best designed web framework in Python space
[20:15] <rick_h__> getting to do the first stab at a pyramid app at work
[20:16] <binbrain> are you bumping heads with ZTK much?
[20:16] <rick_h__> things just fall into place nicely,
[20:16] <rick_h__> nope, not at all
[20:16] <rick_h__> still sticking with routes/alchemy
[20:16] <binbrain> I think that's the way to go
[20:16] <rick_h__> but working on trying to build some modular apps, so going to be having some fun with things
[20:16] <rick_h__> want to be able to start with a base and add apps onto it with little code/config
[20:16] <binbrain> unless you want ZODB, I'd say stick with routes
[20:17] <rick_h__> yea, we're used to that
[20:18] <binbrain> I really like the way Pyramid uses events
[20:18] <binbrain> its taken from Zope, but cleaner to understand
[20:35] <krondor> wow do I hate the font on the new status.net site (not sure how new or when it was changed, looks totally different though...)
[20:36] <krondor> as far as I can tell c e a o are the same letter
[20:43] <krondor> hmm, nevermind it seems like it's an issue with my font rendering in FF4 in windows.  looks fine in linux on ff4 and in windows in chrome
[20:56] <snap-l> Neat.
[21:08] <jcastro> anyone know whot he tech lead for penguicon is again?
[21:10] <snap-l> Krunal
[21:10] <jcastro> krondor: they scheduled an XBMC talk the same time as the ubuntu one
[21:10] <TeamXlink> My Xbox still runs XBMC
[21:11] <jcastro> ok
[21:11] <jcastro> and I certainly won't be attending "Unity: Dividing Us All"
[21:12] <jcastro> on Sunday too, wth.
[21:12] <snap-l> Yeah, I didn't understand the point of that talk
[21:15] <jcastro> ok so I have a record of me accepting XBMC and 11.04 panels
[21:15] <jcastro> and he asked about lightning talks and I said "sure", but that's on saturday so that works out
[21:17] <jcastro> I think I would have remembered "Do you want to get railed on by UNIX people?"
 Counterparts
[21:21] <jcastro> well, the only mails I see are from you asking me
[21:21] <jcastro> and I was like "ok, deal"
[21:21] <jcastro> and krondor asked me to sit in for XBMC
[21:21] <jcastro> the other one no one lmk about so I am in the clear
[21:21] <snap-l> I guess we need to flip for jcastro
[21:21] <jcastro> other than now I _have_ to show up because people will be making stuff up
[21:21] <jcastro> snap-l: I'll go to the panel one
[21:22] <jcastro> XBMC is neat but doesn't feed me
[21:22] <snap-l> I was still willing to flip for it. ;)
[21:23] <jcastro> nah it's cool, you arranged the party and the bug day and stuff, I'd have to be a real jerk to bail on you
[21:23] <snap-l> ?
[21:23] <snap-l> bug day?
[21:24] <jcastro> the thing in AA
[21:24] <snap-l> That was greg-g
[21:24] <snap-l> And the party is only us trying to meet at the bar. :)
[21:25] <snap-l> The real planning comes tomorrow if they kick us out. ;)
[21:44] <krondor> jcastro: lol I saw you on that schedule for unity dividing us all and was thinking hmmmm


[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[17:42] <snap-l> Hello, what's the best way to change the contact on the loco directory for the Michigan Team?
[17:43] <daker> mhall119, ^
[17:45] <mhall119> snap-l: get a team admin to log into ld, they can change it
[17:45] <snap-l> It is changed in LD
[17:45] <snap-l> er, launchpad
[17:46] <mhall119> launchpad doesn't have a field for contact person
[17:47] <snap-l> OK, thanks. :)
[18:44] <head_victim> Does anyone have a contact in the Myanmar team? They've just destroyed our front page on the wiki because I think they were going to copy it to make their own but never actually copied it. Their irc channel is empty
[18:56] <head_victim> Ah well, changes reverted emails sent. No real harm done :)
[19:17] <mhall119> hurray for wiki versioning