[05:14] <mate|78371> Hello.  Is there a good way to upgrade mint-mate to ubuntu-mate?  Or can I  add the ubuntu-mate repository and see what happens (Deep breath)?


[00:10] <DanaG> random: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=94279&file1=94279-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=CleanUSplash
[00:37] <_MMA_> I know I've seen a icon for "bugs" or "bug reports" before. Am I nuts? If not, anyone know the name?
[00:39] <DanaG> bug-buddy?
[00:39] <DanaG> or something?
[00:43] <_MMA_> Yeah. Something like that
[00:43] <knome> sounds familiar
[08:49] <xanax`> hello
[13:31] <lucazade> kwwii http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2285/schermata1.png
[13:48] <kwwii> lucazade: wow, taht is pretty close to human
[13:49] <lucazade> do you like it?
[13:49] <kwwii> yes, some things seem nice
[13:50] <kwwii> the thing is, as long as we stick with human we need to stay as close as possible to it
[13:50] <kwwii> karmic will probably have a new theme
[13:50] <kwwii> and it will be completely new
[13:50] <lucazade> yes i know, i tried to polish some elements
[13:50] <kwwii> I'm in london next week to start the process
[13:51] <kwwii> _MMA_: they started putting info together and I showed them the presentation I made before intrepid
[13:53] <lucazade> is the palette for karmic different from human?!
[13:53] <lucazade> :)
[13:55] <kwwii> it most likely will be, I am guessing
[13:55] <kwwii> nothing is solid yet, we haven't even started to make the briefs for the work
[13:55] <lucazade> good to know
[13:56] <_MMA_> kwwii: Nice.
[13:58] <lucazade> brb
[13:58] <_MMA_> kwwii: Let's hope someone with half a brain gets it.
[14:10]  * _MMA_ sits back and updates Studio's gtkrc so as to get rid of the deprecation warnings.
[14:29] <_MMA_> kwwii: So what's the name of the icon that's /supposed/ to be used for the power option "suspend"?
[14:42] <kwwii> _MMA_: erm, not sure which one you are talking about
[14:44] <_MMA_> kwwii: Right now, if you pick "Shut Down" on a laptop you get 4 options. One of them is "Suspend". That icon.
[14:47] <kwwii> isn't it the monitor with the mooon and the clouds?
[14:47] <kwwii> something*-sleep was the name
[17:12] <_MMA_> kwwii: "actions/sleep.*" was it. Odd this isn't a FreeDesktop standard.
[17:43] <BHSPitLappy> noamicko, talk *here*
[17:44] <BHSPitLappy> don't pm people at random
[17:44] <BHSPitLappy> that's just bad IRC etiquette.
[17:45] <noamicko> sorry
[17:45] <noamicko> i'm new in this stuff
[17:45] <noamicko> just had a q and didn't know where to ask it
[17:46] <noamicko> i'm a php developer and i was wondering if there's any way that i can contribute in the ubuntu site
[17:47] <noamicko> i really don't wanna bother any one.just asking.
[17:49] <_MMA_> noamicko: The Ubuntu site is run by Canonical. I doubt just anyone can jump in. Asking in #ubuntu-devel or maybe #canonical-sysadmin might be best.
[17:49] <_MMA_> (the latter might be the best place)
[17:50] <noamicko> Thank you so much!
[18:29] <kwwii> _MMA_: yeah, that was the name because of the code having it that way, not my decision


[06:59] <LocutusOfBorg> uim is fixed, rebuilds issued
[06:59] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks doko for accepting them :)
[07:01] <LocutusOfBorg> can we please have freecad ignored on ppc64el and s390x? it is regressed in release since long time autopkgtest for freecad/0.16.6712+dfsg1-1build1: amd64: Pass, armhf: Always failed, i386: Pass, ppc64el: Regression ♻ , s390x: Regression ♻
[08:33] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, good morning, I syncd python-pathspec (from Debian). The ubuntu package was providing python-pathspec and python3-pathspec, the Debian one just provides the python3 binding. Do we need some NBS cleanup?
[08:43] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, perhaps indeed
[08:49] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks for having a look :)
[08:52] <LocutusOfBorg> hurray! yamllint finally fixed :)
[08:52]  * LocutusOfBorg looks hard at the transition :)
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: foolscap [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.13.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted foolscap [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [0.13.0-0ubuntu1]
[10:10] <Laney> apw: slangasek: infinity: FYI autopkgtest-cloud-worker/3 is the new controller
[10:11] <apw> Laney, ack
[10:11] <Laney> if you want to rescue something off /0, do it today please because I'm going to delete it tomorrow
[10:11] <apw> Laney, have nothing on it that i know of
[10:12] <Laney> apw-banking-passwords.txt
[10:12] <xnox> lol
[10:12]  * Laney should extract some things from bash history
[10:17] <ginggs> apw would you bump the freecad hints for ppc64el and s390x to 0.16.6712+dfsg1-1build1 please?
[10:23] <ginggs> also, would you please consider ' force-badtest python-scipy/0.19.1-1ubuntu1/i386' it looks like precisions errors, but the tests pass for me in an i386 VM running bionic-proposed so i cannot test a patch
[10:29] <xnox> infinity, was https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/diaspora-installer/+publishinghistory demoted to proposed incorrectly, managed to migrate this morning, blocking up postgresql/icu transition now. Could it be RM from the archive again?
[10:32] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/8503388/+listing-archive-extra if you want to take it (I'm interested in maven and qt5 fixes)
[10:33] <LocutusOfBorg> sigh libxml2...
[10:33] <LocutusOfBorg> CVE fixes out there but a lot of tests
[10:39] <apw> ginggs, hints kicked down the road some more, not had a achnage to look ath python-scipy
[10:39] <ginggs> apw: thanks
[10:41] <doko> apw: can pglogical be made expected to fail on armhf too? it's currently the only architecture where tests are not ignored
[10:44] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, as said, i386 is not a thing, and tests are just too flaky there, we never caught a regression on i386, but always patched tests to make it pass (by relaxing the bounds)
[10:45] <LocutusOfBorg> so, ignoring here is really something nice to do, and probably the new release is fine again, even if we don't want it right now (because it triggers a ton of stuff)
[10:45] <LocutusOfBorg> having them candidate will make more readable the britney output
[10:50] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: If you're not going to use the results, why bother running the tests?
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, because we don't want to diverge more from Debian
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg> and yes, we use them, and we decide if they are a bug in testsuite or a bug in code
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm asking to ignore this specific version, not it forever
[10:53] <doko> xnox: diaspora-installer removed again
[10:53] <xnox> doko, thanks.
[10:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice-l10n [source] (artful-proposed) [1:5.4.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libreoffice [source] (artful-proposed) [1:5.4.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:54] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: That last statement doesn't sound the same as "i386 is not a thing"
[10:57] <LocutusOfBorg> I mean, what is the purpose of fixing a testsuite that fails from time to time, only on i386 by relaxing test bounds
[10:57] <Laney> I know what you mean, so why run it on i386 at all?
[10:58] <LocutusOfBorg> ask Debian, I hate deltas :)
[10:58] <Laney> please do
[10:58] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't even remember how to ignore it in one specific architecture lol
[10:59] <Laney> I hate multiple people having to spend their scarce time unproductively
[11:01] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758022
[11:01] <LocutusOfBorg> seems the bug is there since only 3 years
[11:01] <xnox> LocutusOfBorg, still fresh =)
[11:02] <LocutusOfBorg> for debian ages, it is like "yesterday" :)
[11:02]  * LocutusOfBorg tries to disable testsuite on i386
[11:06] <doko> sil2100: "Grouped with PPA ~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3033" does this have any effect on migrations?
[11:21] <apw> doko, yes, it means that all of the things from that place need to get ready together before they migrate
[11:22] <doko> apw: does this include exact versions?
[11:23] <apw> doko, now i don't think i know the answer to that ... it could easily be floppy
[11:26] <doko> Laney: ^^^
[11:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected calamares-settings-ubuntu [source] (bionic-proposed) [1]
[11:26] <doko> just asking because some of these packages were updated again
[11:27] <doko> tsimonq2: ^^^ rejected, missing copyright holder
[11:27] <doko> tsimonq2: also some of the files are at least GPLv3, not v2
[11:41] <Laney> doko: I'm not sure, that was a robru thing
[11:42] <Laney> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/+git/britney2-ubuntu/tree/britney2/policies/sourceppa.py
[11:43] <Laney> I think that probably you can search for the grouped PPA and any packages listed need to be candidates at the same time
[11:43] <Laney> in excuses
[11:43] <doko> output?
[11:44] <Laney> what?
[11:44] <doko> update_output?
[11:44] <Laney> what about it?
[11:45] <doko> libreoffice/1:5.4.1-0ubuntu3
[11:45] <doko> bahh, pasting not working
[11:45] <doko> what you said above: "in excused"  ?
[11:46] <Laney> that's where you see those Grouped by xxxxxxx things
[11:46] <sil2100> doko: I don't have much knowledge about this, never used it or worked on it
[12:09] <slashd> o/ sil2100 good Monday, could you please release cups in artful-updates for (LP: #1729910) ?
[12:09] <slashd> dgadomski, ^
[12:11] <sil2100> slashd: hey! Sure, let me take a look at it once I'm done with kernels
[12:11] <slashd> sil2100, ok thanks ;)
[12:13] <LocutusOfBorg> how to disable testsuite on a specific architecture? Laney ^
[12:15] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: I don't know of a better way than looking at the architecture using dpkg-architecture or something
[12:16] <cjwatson> I'd use dpkg --print-architecture to avoid the dpkg-dev dependency, but yes
[12:16] <acheronuk> dpkg-architecture -e i386 && exit 0
[12:17] <acheronuk> I think?
[12:18] <cjwatson> again, that depends on dpkg-dev which isn't necessarily sensible in a testsuite
[12:18] <Laney> Sure
[12:18] <cjwatson> [ "$(dpkg --print-architecture)" = i386 ]
[12:18] <acheronuk> point taken
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected hibagent [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1]
 doko: hint just needs updating? https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/revision/2652
[12:57] <doko> Laney: any reason about the limited set of versions?
[13:12] <LocutusOfBorg> so, you mean inside the test, not in the test/control file
[13:18] <LocutusOfBorg> ginggs, maybe you want to try the patch? I'm not quite confortable in blindly uploading it and triggering a a lot of autopkgtests
[13:22] <ginggs> LocutusOfBorg: i thought blindly uploading was your thing :p  what patch do you want me to try?
[13:26] <acheronuk> can someone please ignore test fails for libkf5eventviews on ppc64el and s390x? binaries to test have not been buildable on those architectures since May (QtWebEngine), so it makes no sense to suddenly have the tests try to run now!
[13:28] <acheronuk> ^^^ same for akonadi-calendar
[13:28] <acheronuk> those 2 are spuriously blocking abi-compliance-checker
[13:31] <Laney> doko: Probably because we expected that kernel regression to not be around for many months
[13:31] <Laney> Feel free to change it
[13:31] <Laney> acheronuk: Someone manually requested those tests
[13:31] <Laney> and then people have been blindly retrying them for some reason
[13:31] <doko> Laney: I can't
[13:32] <Laney> ok
[13:39] <acheronuk> Laney: I think I may have retried one or two in error before I realised, but didn't make the initial wrong request as far as I can see. I recall a week ago meaning to mention they should not be rune, but with one thing and another I forgot to bring it up
[13:43] <LocutusOfBorg> [11:23:58] <ginggs> also, would you please consider ' force-badtest python-scipy/0.19.1-1ubuntu1/i386' it looks like precisions errors, but the tests pass for me in an i386 VM running bionic-proposed so i cannot test a patch
[13:43] <LocutusOfBorg> the one mentioned here :)
[13:43] <LocutusOfBorg> btw you can also run testsuite from ppa if you have one with the package published
[13:47] <Laney> acheronuk: It doesn't matter about the delay - that someone requested it in the first place, and then people kept on retrying afterwards without reading the log ... yeah, to me that's a bit of a problem
[13:47] <Laney> laney@snakefruit:/home/ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/bionic$ zgrep -e "Requesting.*akonadi-calendar.*(s390x|ppc64el)" 2017-11-*/*.gz
[13:47] <Laney> laney@snakefruit:/home/ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/log/bionic$
[13:52] <Laney> anyways, added the hint for the current versions
[13:54] <doko> Laney: please could you ignore the python-scipy/i386 fail triggered by python-numpy? I'd like to avoid a new upload and triggering autopkg tests again
[13:54] <Laney> I'm doing something else now, sorry, maybe someone else can help you (ap_w mentioned that one earlier I think)
[13:56] <doko> apw: ^^^
[14:02] <bdrung> doko, as you probably saw, i fixed the build failure of rdma-core on armhf
[14:03] <doko> bdrung: you probably saw that it needs promotion
[14:03] <bdrung> yes
[14:04] <bdrung> anything that should be added from by side?
[14:12] <ginggs> doko: dropping freecad ppc64el and s390x binaries stills requires hinting :(
[14:12] <ginggs> same happens when debian stops running autopkgtests
[14:13] <ginggs> if they've passed once, they have to pass forever (or get hinted)
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: hibagent (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:11] <slashd> thanks for cups sil2100
[15:16] <apw> doko, looking at python-scipy/i386
 doko: i *think* this patch to scipy will do it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25998603/ - i can't test it because i can't reproduce the failure in my VM
[15:18] <doko> $ fgrep pglogical *
[15:18] <doko> adconrad:force-badtest pglogical/2.0.0-1
[15:19] <doko> add that one should be updated to 2.1.0-1
[15:20] <apw> python-scipy looks reasonable, applid
[15:20] <xnox> doko, yes please about pglogical.
[15:22] <apw> doko, pglogical done ...
[15:23] <doko> apw: and please remove the freecad ppc64el and s390x test results. the package is not built anymore on these archs
[15:25] <apw> trying to work out if i know how to do that :)
[15:25] <doko> well, or add an ignore for now
[15:30] <xnox> testing a fix for pgagent/ppc64el
[15:30] <xnox> and after that we need to kick out postgresql-mysql-fdw/2.3.0-1 and all should be well.
[15:30] <doko> xnox: is there a bug report for that?
[15:31] <xnox> doko, https://github.com/EnterpriseDB/mysql_fdw/issues/150
[15:31] <xnox> they added opportunistic support for 10.0, but it's not working with 10.1
[15:32]  * xnox opens a bug
[15:34] <xnox> apw, could you please remove postgresql-mysql-fdw, but keep the one in bionic-proposed around?
[15:34] <xnox> or like remove all of it all together? or hint a badtest?
[15:34] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-mysql-fdw/+bug/1733341
[15:34] <doko> I'll remove it
[15:39] <apw> doko, it seems they are only being tested because we had packages on those arches in -release at the time of the test
[15:39] <apw> doko, we can ignore those two now, and it should be fine next time round
[15:40] <doko> that should be sufficient for the current transitions, yes
[15:41] <apw> and hinted ... lets see if that does the do
[15:42] <doko> and now waiting for the just uploaded lo build :-/
[15:42] <Laney> is this the big migration?
[15:43] <doko> yes
[15:43] <doko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1732742
[15:43] <Laney> nice work
[15:44] <doko> well, then at least we'll see what we are missing ...
[15:45] <doko> I fear there is more qt stuff
[15:45] <apw> doko, that is a beast, feels like half the archive
[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted util-linux [source] (artful-proposed) [2.30.1-0ubuntu4.1]
[15:49] <Laney> The following packages have unmet dependencies. libsaml9 : Depends: libxerces-c3.1 but it is not installable libxmltooling7 : Depends: libxerces-c3.1 but it is not installable
[15:49] <Laney> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[15:49]  * Laney tries rebuilding those
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hibagent [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1]
[15:50] <apw> is that "all" of the remaining brokeness ?
[15:50] <Laney> I'm not sure
[15:50] <Laney> I just looked at some random stuff on update_output_notest
[15:50] <Laney> most of it is liberoffice
[15:51]  * xnox has one more package to publish for postgresql-common - the pgagent fix, refreshing silo ppa to publish to then copy those into the archive
[15:51] <xnox> and publishing
[15:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: hibagent [amd64] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hibagent [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1]
[16:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: hibagent (trusty-proposed/primary) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~14.04.1]
[16:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: hibagent (xenial-proposed/primary) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[17:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hibagent [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: hibagent [amd64] (xenial-proposed/none) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[17:18] <xnox> Laney, apw - even thought postgresql-mysql-fdw got kicked out of bionic-release, it appears to still be londing up postgresql-common, can you badtest postgresql-mysql-fdw? it will need source fixes to get it working with postgresql-10 again.
[17:18] <xnox> autopkgtest for postgresql-mysql-fdw/2.3.0-1: amd64: Regression ♻ , armhf: Regression ♻ , i386: Regression ♻ , ppc64el: Regression ♻ , s390x: Regression ♻
[17:18] <xnox> or maybe remove it from bionic-proposed too.
[17:18] <xnox> ..
[17:19] <xnox> retried pgagent with postgresql-common as trigger, should pass with the new pgagent.
[17:20] <apw> so we just want to ignore its tests for the moment, and block it in proposed so it doesn't migrate; then once teh rest does retun its tests and unblock it ?
[17:20] <xnox> apw, correct.
[17:20] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-mysql-fdw/+bug/1733341
[17:32] <apw> xnox, except nothing is depending on it ..
[17:38] <xnox> apw, i see postgresql-common triggering tests of postgresql-mysql-fdw, still, even after it was removed from -release. not sure if update_excuses is out of date, or buggy.
[17:39] <xnox> oh it's gone
[17:39] <apw> its not there now, i suspect since it has been removed in -release finally caught up
[17:39] <xnox> all is good =) i must have been looking at stale update_excuses.
[17:40] <xnox> pgagent is now green with postgresql-common; so maybe the next run will show us what's left for migration of doom.
[17:54] <xnox> boo, my retries did not make into this run either. hopefully next one then.
[17:59] <apw> xnox, there still seems to be pyqt junk on there
[18:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: django-tastypie (xenial-proposed/universe) [0.12.0-1build1 => 0.13.3-1~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[18:21] <doko> Laney: is update-output-helper currently working for you?
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ipxe (xenial-proposed/main) [1.0.0+git-20150424.a25a16d-1ubuntu1 => 1.0.0+git-20150424.a25a16d-1ubuntu1.2] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[18:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nova (xenial-proposed/main) [2:13.1.4-0ubuntu4.1 => 2:13.1.4-0ubuntu4.2] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[18:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ipxe (zesty-proposed/main) [1.0.0+git-20150424.a25a16d-1ubuntu2 => 1.0.0+git-20150424.a25a16d-1ubuntu2.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[19:18] <tsimonq2> infinity: Any chance you're around?
[19:25] <infinity> tsimonq2: There's a chance.
[19:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hibagent [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[19:27] <tsimonq2> infinity: Have you seen my MP to lp:ubuntu-cdimage?
[19:28] <tsimonq2> infinity: Lubuntu made a QA mistake and I'm wondering if it's at all possible to get new images for 17.10
[19:28] <doko> looks like I hadn't finished the xerces-c transition ...
[19:30] <tsimonq2> infinity: We missed LVM packages and UEFI packages because the share seed wasn't included.
[19:31] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, what is missing?
[19:31] <tsimonq2> infinity: (I'd like to know how to fix it)
[19:31] <infinity> tsimonq2: Yeah, I see that.  I'm not really a big fan of respinning a release a month after a release.
[19:34] <tsimonq2> infinity: Right, and neither am I. But I'm also getting annoyed at people poking me about it. Ofc they had to wait until after the release, but that's besides the point.
[19:34] <tsimonq2> The fix is simple but tedious.
[19:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hibagent [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~14.04.1]
[19:36] <infinity> tsimonq2: Well, one thing at a time, I'll merge this and you can see if bionic looks how you think it should.
[19:37] <tsimonq2> infinity: Sure. Is there a delay between ubuntu-cdimage revisions being merged and actually being deployed?
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: hibagent [i386] (trusty-proposed/none) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~14.04.1] (no packageset)
[19:38] <slangasek> only if the person merging doesn't follow up with deploying
[19:38] <Laney> doko: yes, but I might have some local modifications
[19:38] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: uploads done.
[19:38] <Laney> what's wrong with it for you?
[19:38] <doko> that seems to be open: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/r/ruby-em-http-request/bionic/amd64
[19:38] <doko> Laney: let me check
[19:39] <doko> is this a proxy problem?
[19:39] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ack
[19:39] <infinity> tsimonq2: What Steve says.  The delay is anywhere between seconds and "until the end of time", as it relies on a manual pull on nusakan.  But most of us remember that step. :P
[19:40] <doko> Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26007342/
[19:41] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks doko, do you need some more work? I fail to see what is missing for the big one
[19:41] <infinity> tsimonq2: Done and done.
[19:47] <tsimonq2> infinity: And rebuilt. Thanks.
[19:49] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: see above, the ruby autopkg test failure
[19:52] <Laney> doko: here's my version http://paste.debian.net/996753/
[19:53] <Laney> poor connection atm, sorry
[19:54] <doko> Laney: yes that one works :)
[19:57] <doko> oSoMoN: LO build failure on amd64 :-/
[19:58] <doko> segfault in a unit test
[20:05] <doko> oSoMoN: I pasted the tail of the log, and gave it back. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26007473/
[20:22] <Schyken> Heyo
[20:26] <slangasek> xnox: yes, please stop using nested KVM with the next systemd upload, given its not-support status.
[20:56] <oSoMoN> doko, mmm, that's weird, thanks for retrying, let's see how it goes this time
[22:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted hibagent [i386] (trusty-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu1~14.04.1]
[23:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupdate-signed (artful-proposed/main) [1.14ubuntu0.2 => 1.14.1] (core)
[23:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupdate-signed (zesty-proposed/main) [1.13ubuntu0.1 => 1.13.1] (core)
[23:42] <tsimonq2> infinity: Testers have confirmed that the tooling change fixed the problem.
[23:42] <tsimonq2> (in Bionic)
[23:43] <tsimonq2> infinity: Would you be able to spin up some 17.10 ISOs for us to test the changes?
[23:43] <xnox> slangasek, ok, i will force not using nested kvm, but the defaults should be changed too, nonetheless. Currently it checks of the presence of /dev/kvm but makes use of it, if found, but it doesn't itself load kvm modules and/or specifies kvm.nesting=1 at all.
[23:44] <slangasek> xnox: ah, of course; makes sense, and yes I agree the default should be changed, I think cpaelzer is planning to follow up on that
[23:44] <xnox> slangasek, i will add an etra check to systemd-virt-detect --vm and thus ignore /dev/kvm presense (* unless z/vm, cause althought that's nested virtualisation, it's not linux-kvm-nesting)
[23:44] <xnox> cpaelzer, ^^^
[23:45] <tsimonq2> infinity: Also, irt naming, would they be called 17.10.1 or would they overwrite the existing ISO?


[14:31] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:31] <cmaloney> ish
[14:47] <rick_h__> just a bit longer
[15:56] <cmaloney> Only four more minutes. :)
[16:08] <jcastro> rick_h__: yeah, we got punked
[16:08] <jcastro> it was sad
[16:08] <jcastro> we didn't lead the entire game
[16:08] <jcastro> middle tennessee, lol
[16:10] <cmaloney> Well, there's always next year
[16:10] <cmaloney> yadda yadda
[18:13] <cmaloney> Afternoon. :)
[23:02] <Dan9er111> hi


[12:25] <ssarah> Hi everyone. I installed the newest xubuntu and couldn't find the option to encrypt my /home
[12:25] <ssarah> they removed it?
[12:30] <Javabean> use the full disk encryption option
[12:38] <ssarah> don't wnat to
[12:38] <ssarah> that's slow, Javabean
[12:38] <ssarah> i just wanted my home encrypted
[12:40] <Javabean> i can't remember if it was ubuntu's release notes or xubuntu's but the option was removed in favor of full disk encryption.
[12:40] <Javabean> i mean, you could still setup an encrypted home. but it would be the "old-skool" manual setup
[12:41] <ssarah> :/
[12:41] <ssarah> it's not really nice to have an ssd and a fully encrypted linux
[12:41] <Javabean> don't shoot the messenger, i am just some random that knew the answer
[12:41] <ssarah> Javabean, tyvm Javabean :)
[12:43] <Javabean> your welcome, and honestly... i should probably be leaving for work soon
[12:45] <ssarah> go go, im already at work. But my machine feels a bit messed up, I think because I have an encrypted home and did a do-release-upgrade.
[12:45] <ssarah> at least i get a bunch of related errors on boot
[12:45] <ssarah> i'll just backup and format
[13:56] <ssarah> And how come you ubuntu went back to x? Wayland seemed pretty cool
[13:56] <ssarah> this i didnt "feel" i just read about
[14:02] <ssarah> ah.. because it's a LTS ?
[14:04] <Spass> I think Wayland is not ready to be default in the LTS release, it has some issues with NVIDIA drivers iirc
[17:53] <Korbak> Hi there :) !
[17:53] <Korbak> Hope you'll save my digital life, I am definitely stuck here
[17:53] <Korbak> I upgraded my laptop from Xubuntu 17.10 to Xubuntu 18.04
[17:54] <Korbak> Everything went fine, but now, whenever I boot, I see the splashscreen and then get a frozen prompt black screen. I have an access to the tty, but I can't get the thing back to work. Can someone help me :) ?
[17:55] <bluepain_> did you install any third party GPU driver?
[17:56] <Korbak> bluepain_: I don't think so, but I am not sure to understand, can you explain this point to me ?
[17:57] <Korbak> Or, of course, tell me where to seek ^^
[17:57] <bluepain_> Did you install any propriety drivers in "Settings->Additional Drivers" s
[17:57] <bluepain_> ?
[17:58] <Korbak> I think I did, when I was on 17.10
[17:58] <bluepain_> is your gpu amd or nvidia?
[17:58] <Korbak> nvidia
[17:58] <Korbak> (A GT 630M to be exact)
[17:58] <bluepain_> maybe you can try this
[17:59] <bluepain_> go to tty1 by pressing CTRL + ALT + F1
[17:59] <Korbak> Already in :)
[17:59] <bluepain_> then run this command: "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove nvidia*"
[17:59] <bluepain_> don't forget * symbol at the end
[17:59] <bluepain_> and then reboot the device
[17:59] <Korbak> « zsh: no matches found: nvidia* »
[18:00] <bluepain_> hmm
[18:00] <Korbak> Guess my previous « autoremove » actually got the work done :(
[18:02] <bluepain_> maybe you can try removing Xorg configuration by running " sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf "
[18:03] <Korbak> isn't that risky ?
[18:04] <bluepain_> xorg is pretty good at finding proper configuration according to your hardware without a need of xorg.conf file
[18:04] <bluepain_> or
[18:04] <bluepain_> you can move it
[18:04] <Korbak> Gotta move it, seems fair :)
[18:04] <bluepain_> like mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/<username>/
[18:05] <bluepain_> then reboot your device
[18:05] <Korbak> Done, I reboot and let you know
[18:05] <Korbak> :)
[18:05] <bluepain_> yep yep
[18:06] <Korbak> Okay, for now the splash screen is always here
[18:06] <Korbak> Here comes the bad part... #suspense :)
[18:07] <Korbak> It worked \o/
[18:07] <Korbak> Thanks sooooo much \o/
[18:22] <bluepain_> Korbak, sorry I didn't see, I was away. You're welcome.
[18:23] <krytarik> Now you've missed the one minute suspense. :(
[18:31] <CrazyTux> hello, can I install Xubuntu Desktop on Ubuntu Mate 18.04? will it create any conflicts and inconsistencies?
[18:33] <bluepain_> Korbak, yea :D


[14:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:23] <dscassel> Morning, BluesKaj
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hi dscassel
[15:52] <genii-around> "<akgraner> Up Next  at 1600 UTC in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom chat for Ubuntu Open Week is Getting the most out of LoCo Teams Portal - mhall119"
[16:17] <dscassel> Thanks, genii-around. Forgot it was Open Week.
[16:17] <genii-around> :)
[16:21] <genii-around> Mostly it looks like someone here already knows how to use the LoCo portal, all the stuff they've mentioned about adding pictures or events, etc are already pretty up-to-date for us.
[16:49] <genii-around> I didn't know about #ubuntu-locoteams
[17:07] <dscassel> Yeah. :)
[17:08] <dscassel> Mind you, the more people updating it the better, really...


[05:51] <pitti> Good morning
[06:49] <DanChapman> good morning
[07:24] <dkessel> Good morning
[07:25] <elfy> morning dkessel
[07:32] <dkessel> morning elfy
[07:46] <jibel> Good morning
[07:47] <elfy> morning jibel
[07:52] <jibel> morning elfy
[12:56] <davmor2> jibel: uefi+sb first issue discovered I'm hitting ENTER and RETURN on the keyboard after ejecting the cd and nothing is happening :(
[12:57] <davmor2> jibel: looks like the keyboard is completely disabled ctrl+alt+Fx isn't working either
[13:02] <davmor2> jibel: and now the second clicking on the cross on the keyboard shortcuts doesn't actually close the keyboard shortcuts other than that perfect install
[13:43] <davmor2> jibel: if you open say launchpad and a webapp you get 2 firefox windows and 2 markers to the left of the FF icon in the Launcher correct?  If you then close the webapp but keep the launchpad window open do you still see the 2 markers to the left of the FF icon?
[13:47] <jibel> davmor2, I do.
[13:47] <jibel> davmor2, this is a bug in bamf
[13:48] <jibel> davmor2, actually it happens only on first try, if you try again is works properly
[14:16] <davmor2> jibel: confirmed
[14:16] <jibel> davmor2, file a bug but I think it's minor
[14:17] <davmor2> oh indeed just something I noticed :)
[14:28] <pitti> jibel: darn; so after hours of debugging I finally found the cause of bug 1283966 (testing fix now), and it's not the same as bug 1267116 :(
[14:28] <pitti> so back to the drawing board
[14:29]  * davmor2 hugs pitti it sounds like he needs it
[14:29] <pitti> davmor2: thanks
[14:30]  * davmor2 also passes pitti a new marker for the drawing board, also sounds like he'll need it :)
[14:30] <pitti> davmor2: I also need a drawing board in the first place :)
[14:30] <jibel> pitti, great! do you think 1267116 and 1284671 are really duplicates? traces are slightly different and the bucket in errors.u.c corresponds to 1284671
[14:31] <davmor2> pitti: sorry I don't keep spare drawing boards request one from msm I'm sure the office have extra ones :)
[14:31]  * jibel hands pitti white paint to repaint his office
[14:32] <davmor2> hahaha
[14:32] <davmor2> yeah use the walls and repaint once a month :D
[14:32] <pitti> jibel: they look similar enough to me; as long as we don't have a practical reproducer (i. e. environment where one can debug this, and where turnaround time is only a minute or less),  I think we can treat them the same
[14:32] <pitti> jibel: I doubt that for a memory corruption like that the traces will always be identical
[14:32] <pitti> jibel: haha
[14:39] <pitti> jibel: ah, but indeed http://paste.ubuntu.com/6725605/ also has a critical
[14:40] <pitti> jibel, DanChapman: how reliably can bug 1284671 be triggered?
[14:40] <pitti> any chance this could be run with G_DEBUG=fatal-criticals and "ulimit -c unlimited" to get a proper core file for this atk_object_set_parent: assertion 'ATK_IS_OBJECT (accessible)' failed
[14:40] <jibel> pitti, easy, I can remove the workaround (uninstall ubiquity slideshow) and run the tests
[14:41] <pitti> jibel: how much effort is it to set up this testing rig locally?
[14:42] <DanChapman> pitti there is the test runner in ubiquity trunk, (just so you know i have only managed to reproduce locally 3 or 4 times out of 100's of attempts)
[14:42] <pitti> jibel: but yeah, if it's not too much effort for you to run the test under that environment, a core file would be great
[14:43] <jibel> pitti, I forwarded you what I sent to veebers with the instructions to run locally
[14:43] <jibel> pitti, but locally I can reproduce it like 10% or less of the time
[14:43] <pitti> jibel: well, I can of course just poke around on albali or wherever that's running
[14:45] <pitti> jibel: ah, thanks for the mail
[14:49] <jibel> pitti, where will the core file be generated?
[14:51] <jibel> pitti, also do I need to reset core_pattern to disable apport?
[14:52] <jibel> or I just leave everything as it is and let apport do its work
[14:53] <pitti> jibel: apport checks the crashing processes' ulimit and create core files just like the kernel would, so no need to touch
[14:53] <jibel> ok
[14:53] <pitti> jibel: core file will be in the cwd of the crashed processs (ubiquity), so probably /root or /home/ubuntu
[15:01] <davmor2> jibel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/1297886 can you do the honours please
[15:06] <jibel> pitti, tests running, without the workaround + G_DEBUG + ulimit -c unlimited
[15:19] <jibel> pitti, not sure what it means but with G_DEBUG ubiquity crashed almost immediately https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubiquity_ap-ubuntu_devel_daily-test_english_default/ARCH=amd64,label=rabisu/128/
[15:20] <jibel> well, stopped with SIGTRAP
[15:21] <jibel> /var/local/autopilot//logs//autopilot.log: [Gtk] UNKNOWN: gtk_radio_button_set_group: assertion '!g_slist_find (group, radio_button)' failed
[15:21] <jibel> /var/log/syslog: Mar 26 15:07:46 ubuntu kernel: [   77.614241] traps: ubiquity[4827] trap int3 ip:7fd8aac19c13 sp:7fff30156970 error:0
[15:36] <pitti> jibel: ah, crap; yeah, I guess if there's tons of "expected" criticals that G_DEBUG approach won't get us very far :(
[18:11] <jibel> jamespage, hi, some server tests are not covered for this milestone, particularly MaaS and iSCSI. Could the server team test those?
[18:17] <jamespage> jibel, sure
[18:25] <davmor2> jibel: right back from tea images downloading I'll hit uefi and mac first
[18:33] <jibel> davmor2, did you download them from pending/ ?
[18:33] <jibel> davmor2, because only latest mac is available from current/
[18:33] <davmor2> meh
[18:34] <jibel> stgraber, the script updates the tracker when images are not yet in current/
[18:34] <jibel> for example in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ there are both latest and previous builds depending on the arch
[18:39] <stgraber> jibel: nusakan updates the tracker once it has asked all mirrors to sync from it
[18:39] <stgraber> jibel: we have no way to know when the rsync is actually done so that's as good as it gets...
[18:57] <davmor2> jibel: oh so hang on queuebot said Builds for ubuntu had been updated does that not mean released then
[20:42] <davmor2> jibel: does it take ages to get from the requirements check to the partitioning step
[20:45] <jibel> davmor2, no, it should be almost immediate
[20:46] <davmor2> jibel: it's taking like a minute or so here.  I wonder if the TB drive has anything to do with it :)
[20:47] <jibel> davmor2, you can open a terminal and check what it is doing. also /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/debug might give you an indication if something went wrong
[20:47] <davmor2> jibel: I'll have a look next time
[20:48] <jibel> so ubiquity-dm and encrpyted home are working now.
[20:48] <jibel> I'm now verifying oem installationds
[20:48] <jibel> -d
[21:17] <davmor2> jibel: yeah setup of the tools and then scan of the drive by the look of it
[21:17] <davmor2> jibel: that would slow it down a on 1TB drive I guess :)
[21:18] <jibel> davmor2, who needs a 1TB drive now that everything's on the cloud :)
[21:19] <davmor2> jibel: well when you need a machine that can install the entire myapps for 6 versions of ubuntu you need a bit of space
[21:20] <davmor2> jibel: the mac with it's smaller drive is much quicker there, but I'm assuming you in vm have like 23 GB driver or something
[21:20] <jibel> davmor2, exactly
[21:21] <davmor2> once that is loaded the installer is rapid it's just that one step that is slow
[21:43] <davmor2> jibel: is it me or is there no option for encrypted home on 64bit?  I see encrypted lvm disc but not just home unless I'm reading them wrong
[21:44] <jibel> davmor2, it is in the user setup step. I tried it earlier tonight
[21:44] <jibel> let me verify again
[21:45] <davmor2> jibel: no I mean a test listed for it
[21:48] <davmor2> jibel: I can confirm that there is a encrypted home option I just don't see a test to mark it against
[21:48] <jibel> davmor2, ah on the tracker, there is a gap in the test plan. It would be worth adding a mandatory test for this
[21:48] <jibel> I added an automated test this afternoon, just not deployed yet.
[21:49] <davmor2> jibel: I think so being as it is available as a default option.
[21:49] <davmor2> jibel: I'll add it to other features I think
[21:52] <jibel> sounds good


[00:59] <robotdevil> Is anyone else with me about wanting the older KDE menu (application laucher) that had a back button to make you be able to reverse out of menu entries. I nstead of having to use the written word on the right side
[01:23] <toph> yea I kinda miss the back button. I wonder if the men can be modified to have a back button??
[01:23] <toph> menu* sorry my 'u' key is half busted
[01:24] <simplew> toph: i remember it could
[01:29] <robotdevil> simplew: you sure
[01:30] <simplew> robotdevil: im not sure if i understand well your question, can you rephrase it?
[01:32] <robotdevil> simplew: is it possible to use an older version of application launcher (kickoff) in newer versions of kde eg. kickoff from kde 4.6 on kde 4.8
[01:32] <robotdevil> or enabled the back button
[01:33] <simplew> robotdevil: get the source and rebuild it against kde 4.8
[01:33] <simplew> robotdevil: thats the only way to get it working
[01:33] <robotdevil> ok
[01:34] <robotdevil> um that seems a little daunting, thought maybe since widgets are removable they could just upsteam some the older kickoffs
[01:37] <toph> right click > switch to classic style
[01:44] <simplew> robotdevil: yes you can have the classic and default layouts
[01:46] <robotdevil> classic is painful, so windows 98
[01:47] <simplew> well i love classic
[01:47] <simplew> and it has nothing to do with windows crap
[02:04] <toph> I just wish windows key would open the kickoff and windows space wold open that drop down search thing no matter what program I'm in
[02:04] <robotdevil> toph: I thought you could set that
[02:05] <toph> I can't get it to take just meta to open the kickoff menu and meta+space to open the drop down thing didn't work if certain programs were the active window
[02:05] <robotdevil> you mean krunner altf2
[02:42] <NoiseCounsellor> I currently have /usr/, /var/, /srv/ and /opt/ on their own partitions, or rather on their own drive even, but I'd like to move them to the / partition. Could I simply boot from a live-CD, move the data to the / partition and delete the entries from /etc/fstab, or is there something more to it?
[03:39] <genii-around> NoiseCounsellor: mv would work, yes
[03:59] <cancer> Hi
[04:00] <cancer> anyone knows about supybot here?
[04:00] <cancer> just need a little help.
[04:00] <cancer> !error
[04:01] <Unit193> Best bet would be to go to #supybot.
[04:02] <cancer> Unit193: i went there often, but never got reply.
[04:03] <Unit193> You need to ask clearly what you want, and give them time to answer.
[04:03] <cancer> i'm just facing an error. 'Error: "" is not a valid command.
[04:03] <Unit193> !details
[04:03] <Unit193> Use that, but in #supybot.
[04:03] <cancer> i am already there asking the same question
[04:06] <anda> hay all
[06:15] <Wizard> Hi.
[06:15] <Wizard> How can I display dependencies of a package?
[06:15] <Wizard> (Using apt)
[06:16] <Wizard> I cannot find it in man.
[06:16] <lordievader> Wizard: Something like apt-cache depends <pkg>?
[06:17] <bazhang> Wizard, man apt-cache
[06:22] <Wizard> Thanks, guys.
[07:25] <ignerious> hello
[07:25] <ignerious> :)
[07:26] <ignerious> can any one help me regarding my eclipse issue
[07:26] <ignerious> ?
[07:26] <Tm_T> ignerious: cannot know until you have given enough information to know the problem (:
[07:27] <ignerious> my eclipse is not starting up after I have installed new software
[07:27] <ignerious> what should i do??
[07:28] <Tm_T> ignerious: what new software did you install? have you tried launching eclipse from command line? if yes, does it give any information what does it do when it fails?
[07:28] <ignerious> yes
[07:28] <ignerious> it shows this "home@home-G31M-ES2L:~$ eclipse
[07:29] <ignerious> Accessing non-adaptable element org.eclipse.ecf.examples.remoteservices.hello.ds.host
[07:29] <ignerious> Accessing non-adaptable element org.eclipse.ecf.examples.remoteservices.hello"
[07:29] <ignerious> and then it goes off
[07:31] <ignerious> ???????
[07:31] <ignerious> pleaseeeee help me
[07:32] <Tm_T> patience, please
[07:39] <robotdevil> how do I make quassel use firefox
[07:39] <Tm_T> ignerious: I have to admit that I'm unsure how to get more debug information out of eclipse, but I wonder if this kind of thing is related: http://livinginjava.blogspot.fi/2010/08/eclipse-fails-to-start.html
[07:40] <ignerious> Tim_T: ok checking it out
[07:40] <Wizard> robotdevil: set it as default browser.
[07:42] <robotdevil> Wizard: wonder how that got changed
[07:42] <robotdevil> update maybe
[07:42] <robotdevil> anyway thanks
[07:43] <Wizard> You're welcome :)
[09:23] <pozop> Hi! when I try to open my konqueror bookmarks with the launcher, my Kubuntu 12.04 tries to do it with rekonq. How can I change it back to konqueror?
[09:24] <pozop> uninstalled rekoq already, just do not need it
[09:25] <Tm_T> pozop: have you changed your default browser to konqueror in system settings?
[09:26] <pozop> my default browser is opera. It worked before
[09:27] <abouossama> hiii all , i have a question about how to do my media keyboard controls work with kubuntu it work good with my ubuntu but with kubuntu no, so i dont know the problem what is it can you help me ??
[09:46] <ignerious> any body please help my eclipse is not starting up after new software installation
[09:47] <skramer_> I have forked-daapd set up on my PC, but Amarok2 on my Kubuntu 12.04 laptop can not see the share. Unfortunately, I could not find any help on the net. Dolphin shows the DAAP share under "network:", but I can´t see it under "zeroconf:". Anybody could tell me please what went  wrong?
[09:49] <ignerious> help me pleaseeeeeee
[09:51] <ignerious> any body please help my eclipse is not starting up after new software installation
[10:01] <isemenov> Riddell: ping
[10:01] <Riddell> hi isemenov
[10:02] <isemenov> Riddell: hello! remember, a couple months ago we were planning to do some packaging, for me to learn the process?
[10:02] <Riddell> isemenov: oh aye
[10:05] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[10:05] <Riddell> isemenov: join us in #kubuntu-devel if you want help
[10:21] <SamuraiJack> hello
[10:22] <SamuraiJack> I have a really weird problem with my Kubuntu setup, perhaps someone can help me
[10:23] <SamuraiJack> right now I'm on very internet connection - its not stable periodically dissapears at all, low speed, etc
[10:23] <SamuraiJack> and when the inet connection comes crazy, my desktop freezes
[10:23] <SamuraiJack> literally the task bar does not react on any mouse movements
[10:24] <SamuraiJack> kikoff launcher doesn't work, etc
[10:24] <SamuraiJack> yet I can press "Alt+F2" and launch some application from some other launch menu
[10:24] <SamuraiJack> this only happens when connection goes crazy - all is well, when I'm completely offline
[10:25] <SamuraiJack> so it seems like KDE is doing DNS requests or some other stuff
[10:25] <VIZIO> need help with external drive in kubuntu 11.10  folders disappear and it fails to unmount correctly
[10:25] <SamuraiJack> I tried to google for a bug in KDE, w/o results
[10:25] <SamuraiJack> any ideas?
[10:28] <WotWhere> Hi, cant figure why.. i see Garbled image parts  in firefox.. when i MouseOver on a Grid of images.. other parts of teh page are redrawn and show Garbled images.. it feels like a repaint is happening (Allthough it should).. but why are other parts of the page repainting weird pixels...
[10:28] <VIZIO> is it possible certain drive enclosures are wonky in kubuntu or ntfs support for large folders is bad?
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:33] <WotWhere> its not happening in Konqueror only firefox.. it keeps repainting the page when i move the cursor over the image grid.. but why is it showing junk? Although it does repaint correctly when the mouse movement stops
[10:34] <VIZIO> what video card you got? open source or proprietary drivers?
[10:35] <VIZIO> bc i experienced something similar with open source drivers.
[10:36] <VIZIO> the newer versions of firefox can use hardware acceleration. try turning that off. there is a check box somewhere.
[10:36] <WotWhere> :Vizio i have fglrx drivers installed and have ATI radeon 7770OC
[10:39] <VIZIO> somewhere in advanced settings in firefox is a checkbox for hardware accell.. uncheck it.. does it still happen?
[10:41] <WotWhere> :Vizio Also the whole screen shows garbled image for a millisecond and then repaint ok.. it does this when new programs are started or closed..
[10:49] <WotWhere> :Vizio I think i solved it.. under system setings->Display and monitor-> Size & Orientation.. theres DFP1-to-DFP10 + CRT1.. I checked the 'Unify Outputs' checkbox at the top.. and chose DFP10 as the primary output.. then Save as default and Apply.. its not doing it in Firefox now and hasnt happend to the whole screen either,
[10:50] <VIZIO> now.. does anybody have any idea why folders would suddenly get botched and unable to unmount an external ntfs?
[10:50] <VIZIO> WotWhere: you have dual monitors?
[10:50] <VIZIO> or just more than one output but only one screen
[10:51] <WotWhere> vizio: no i have just the 1 monitor.. normal desktop setup
[10:52] <VIZIO> hmm.
[10:52] <WotWhere> oh.. i spoke too soon the problem remains
[10:52] <VIZIO> is there something wonky with the ntfs support in 11.10?
[10:56] <WotWhere> so y do i have DFP1-9 and CRT1 as blank and DFP10 as connected?
[10:56] <VIZIO> let me look and see what mine says...
[10:57] <WotWhere> on clicking identify Outputs.. it does say DFP10
[10:58] <VIZIO> i have nothing under dfp1 or crt1 they are greyed out. i do have a lvds tho
[10:58] <WotWhere> i was having the same problem with Unity as well
[10:58] <VIZIO> guess it doesnt matter what it calls it.. only matters is it works..
[11:00] <WotWhere> ya i suppose ur right.. but y list DFP 1-9
[11:01] <VIZIO> is the one connected listed at the top?
[11:02] <WotWhere> DFP1 to DFP9 =blank..  then DFP10(Connected) then CRT1 Blank
[11:02] <VIZIO> you also have the catalyst control center to change the same settings? whats it say there?
[11:03] <WotWhere> checking
[11:04] <ignerious> any body please help my eclipse is not starting up after new software installation
[11:05] <ignerious> help me pleaseeeeeee
[11:06] <VIZIO> usually installing fglrx installs catalyst. looks just like the windows display settings.
[11:06] <WotWhere> yes i can start catalyst.. but dont know how to start as Admin
[11:07] <VIZIO> there should be a catalyst as admin in the menu along with the regular one
[11:07] <WotWhere> yes and it doesnt start.. i am using the other one(user)
[11:08] <VIZIO> hmm
[11:09] <WotWhere> i guess the quest is howto start catalyst (admin) or as super user..
[11:09] <VIZIO> try kdesu catalyst from run box
[11:09] <VIZIO> alt=f2 kdesu catalyst
[11:10] <VIZIO> hmm doesnt launch for me like that either
[11:10] <nyuszika7h> Hi, I made a second profile in Konsole but it can't be selected in Yakuake. I tried relaunching it.
[11:11] <VIZIO> amdxdg-su -c amdcccle  in terminal
[11:12] <VIZIO> nope i stand corrected that doesnt work for me either
[11:13] <WotWhere> well i cant do su.. i think its locked by defualt
[11:14] <VIZIO> kdesu amdcccle   in the alt+f2 run box did it!
[11:14] <WotWhere> i have the admin account passwd correct but the su accnt is locked.. i think
[11:14] <nyuszika7h> Also, how do I resize Yakuake?
[11:20] <ignerious> help me pleaseeeeeee
[11:20] <ignerious> eclipse is verry important to me
[11:31] <eakky> hello
[11:31] <mydogsnameisrudy> howdee
[11:35] <WotWhere> Visio: got disconnected
[11:45] <WotWhere> Hi, cant figure why.. i see Garbled image parts  in firefox.. when i MouseOver on a Grid of images.. other parts of teh page are redrawn and show Garbled images.. it feels like a repaint is happening (Allthough it should).. but why are other parts of the page repainting weird pixels...
[12:21] <amundsen> hi
[12:21] <amundsen>  i'm having some trouble with lcd weather plasmoid
[12:21] <amundsen> it's been working the last week
[12:21] <amundsen> but it doesn't display the weather correctly
[12:21] <amundsen>  at least in bbcukmet
[12:29] <Chakotay> Can someone help me to get sound working on my laptop? It's a Toshiba Satellite C655-S5123, and I have Kubuntu 12.04 32 bit installed
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, first of all , is there any sound at all , like system sounds ?
[12:39] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: No sound at all.
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, open a terminal and do , aplay -l , pastebin the output
[12:41] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017839/
[12:41] <JuJuBee> Anybody having issues with Google Chrome freezing up? Im runnning 11.10 with 3.0.0-20 kernel and chrome is freezing up on me several times a day. Seems to happen more when I ctrl-T to get a new tab and start typing an address
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, have you turned up the controls and unmuted any MM in the ctrls in alsamixer?
[12:44] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: No, I don't even have the volume adjustment by the clock
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, open a terminal and type alsamixer
[12:48] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: OK, it's up, and the master volume was all the way down. I just turned it up
[12:49] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: still no sound
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Chakotay,  make sure the Master, PCM,  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[12:51] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: That worked! Thank you. How can I get the volume icon down by the clock?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> make sure there are no MM in the ctrl boxes , they should have 00 at the bottom
[12:51] <BluesKaj> install dmix
[12:52] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: Thank you. I really appreciate your help
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, np :)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, sorry , it's called kmix,  for the little vol ctrl in the panel
[12:55] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: Thank you, I was just going to ask you that
[12:56] <BluesKaj> odd that it didn't install by default
[12:57] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: This is odd http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017857/
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, ok ,try installing alsa-base alsa-utils
[12:59] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: It gave me that same message about no longer being needed
[12:59] <susundberg> Hey all, i had at 11.04 nice app at the launch bar that allowed me to click through directories and then open that in dolphin
[13:00] <susundberg> no i do not have that in 12.04 and i would love to get it back. I guess it was widget, any idea what?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> susundberg,  folderview ? in the add widgets
[13:00] <susundberg> BluesKaj: yeah, but that opens the folder directly if i click the folder
[13:01] <susundberg> something similar yes
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Chakotay, that message is about left over gnome stuff not alsa
[13:02] <susundberg> i mean say i have $home/foo/bar that i want to open, now when navigating with folder view widget to foo, and click that it will open that folder in dolphin. What i would like to clikc 'foo' then 'bar' then 'open'
[13:03] <susundberg> and there was such in 11.04 :)
[13:03] <BluesKaj> right click on folderview and choose settings
[13:03] <BluesKaj> susundberg,^
[13:03] <susundberg> yes ?
[13:03] <susundberg> (what there=)
[13:04] <BluesKaj> look around , personally I don't use it
[13:04] <susundberg> i did that before bothering you here, i couldnt find option that would correspond that
[13:04] <Chakotay> BluesKaj: Ok, I found it in the package manager and reinstalled it. I will restart and hope it works. Thank you again
[13:06] <susundberg> rechecking shows option "click to view folder" but that seems to do nothing as far as i can deduct ..
[13:11] <susundberg> BluesKaj: oh nevermind, i found the thing with apt-cache, magic name is 'quickaccess'
[13:16] <BluesKaj> susundberg, quickaccess doesn't seem to be in widgets
[13:17] <susundberg> yeah, install was required at least for me
[13:17] <mydogsnameisrudy> plasma-widget-quickaccess
[13:18] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[13:21] <BluesKaj> mornin' mydogsnameisrudy
[13:35] <Maximum_> hi
[14:14] <bigbrovar> Bonjour people
[14:20] <BluesKaj> hmm, Firefox , and java seem to use a lot of gpu resources , depends on the website though...anyone else notice this ?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> err flash and java that is
[15:29] <FreeZZZ> здраствуйте
[15:29] <Riddell> !ru
[16:32] <bimmel> Hi, how can I enable 3d support on my Ati HD5870 with the open source driver?
[16:35] <BluesKaj> bimmel, have you tried enabling in system settings ..I have to ask
[16:36] <ewerton> ola
[16:36] <ewerton> algum brasileiro?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> !pt | ewerton
[16:39] <bimmel> BluesKaj, uhm really? wait
[16:40] <bimmel> BluesKaj, where exactly? I dont mean the KDE WM stuff. I mean in non kde applications
[16:41] <bimmel> BluesKaj, for example vmware constantly complains there is no 3d acceleration available
[16:42] <BluesKaj> bimmel, kmenu>computer>system settings>desktop effects>enable desktop effects at startup
[16:44] <bimmel> BluesKaj, the desktop effects work fine. But lots of non kde things are quite jittery, vmware, firefox 3d page inspector
[16:44] <ewerton> hey, it's my problem, desktop effects dont start...
[16:45] <ewerton> to desktop effects on kubuntu it's necessary to install compiz???
[16:46] <bimmel> ewerton, no
[16:46] <bimmel> they should work by defult
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ewerton, if desktop effects don't work with them enabled then compiz won't work either ...you may need a graphics driver upgrade
[16:48] <ewerton> my graphics drivers upgrade is done
[16:48] <BluesKaj> bimmel, which kubuntu/kde version?
[16:48] <bimmel> 12.4 with all upgrades and backports enabled
[16:49] <ewerton> whait, i'll write here the problem...
[16:49] <ewerton> *wait
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ewerton, yes but I mean maybe you need a better driver
[16:51] <ewerton> the desktop effects don't be actived...
[16:51] <ewerton> I did upgrade my graphics driver at this moment, but dont worked...
[16:51] <bimmel> BluesKaj, so everything kde related just works with kms. But what do things like vmware mean, when they say "no hardware 3d acceleration available"?
[16:52] <ewerton> sry my english...
[16:55] <BluesKaj> bimmel, sorry I'm not familiar with VMware , so i can't say
[16:55] <bimmel> BluesKaj, i'll ask in the vmware chan
[16:55] <nyuszika7h> I installed kubuntu-full on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. How can I get pure Kubuntu (KDE) without losing any important things?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> I have used VB a few times but decided to dual boot insteqad , less problematic
[16:56] <DarthFrog> !purekde | nyuszika7h
[16:57] <nyuszika7h> Thanks
[17:02] <BluesKaj> ewerton, which graphics driver ?
[17:04] <ewerton> I updated my video driver but still does not work
[17:05] <bimmel> BluesKaj, or can you generally tell me whats the advantage (or not) of fglrx for Cypress cards?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> ewerton,  I can't help if you don't tell mw what graphics cards you have
[17:06] <ewerton> ok, sry, i dont know
[17:07] <BluesKaj> dunno for sure, bimmel , but I heard the fglrx driver is buggy
[17:09] <BluesKaj> ewerton, open a terminal do, sudo lshw -C video , the card will be listed as product
[17:11] <ewerton> ok, it's done!
[17:12] <ewerton> after actived, it's necessary logout... --'
[17:12] <BluesKaj> ewerton, so what does it say beside product ?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> ok , yes if activated , then reboot
[17:13] <ewerton> yes, is it.
[17:14] <ewerton> i forgot this
[17:14] <ewerton> thanks for help me
[17:14] <BluesKaj> ewerton, just curious , what does,  sudo lshw -C video , say ?
[17:16] <ewerton> want you that i type in konsole this?
[17:16] <ewerton> for u?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> sudo lshw -C video
[17:17] <ewerton> *-display
[17:17] <ewerton>        description: VGA compatible controller
[17:17] <ewerton>        product: GF104 [GeForce GTX 460]
[17:17] <ewerton>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[17:17] <ewerton>        physical id: 0
[17:17] <FloodBotK1> ewerton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <ewerton>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[17:19] <ewerton> is it ok?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> ewerton, I just needed the "product" line as I said above , but anyway....
[17:20] <ewerton> haha, sry, i'm 24 hour without sleep, i'm tired... and my english isn't good too
[17:20] <ewerton> ok, bye
[17:21] <bimmel> This week is totally full of confusing people in IRCs
[17:24] <BluesKaj> bimmel, yeah we've had a few probs here lately with language interpretation/meanings and it can be frustrating at times
[17:40] <sysdoc> OK, where did they hide the Jockey icon?
[17:41] <sysdoc> I do not see in system settings
[17:41] <bimmel> its not there, use the search in startmenu
[17:42] <sysdoc> I did the search, lol
[17:43] <bimmel> on mine when I type jockey, it shows it as "additional drivers"
[17:44] <sysdoc> Search on Jockey or Additional drivers doen not work for me, wth?
[17:44] <sysdoc> And I was just in it before reboot adding nvidia driver
[17:45] <sysdoc> weird
[17:47] <santiago009> hola
[17:48] <santiago009> hi
[17:49] <santiago009> some help with my cisco Scientific atlanta 2100r2 i cant get into de administration mode. My ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:52] <santiago009> #argentina
[17:55] <BluesKaj> santiago009, is the modem pw protected , run 'route' in the terminal to find the modem IP
[19:31] <somdeb> Client Quit
[19:31] <Unit193> /quit
[19:32] <genii-around> /me sips
[19:32] <somdeb> what is /quit ?
[19:32] <Unit193> It quits the client, thought you were going for that.
[19:32] <genii-around> somdeb: How you exit this place
[19:33] <somdeb> genii-around: I didnt get you
[19:34] <BluesKaj> it's how one exits the chat
[19:34] <somdeb> BTW how is pinguy linux compared to mint and ubuntu?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> we don't do polls or comparisons of OSs here , somdeb
[20:45] <mellhen> does anyone know how to make dolphin show syning status of dropbox? using 12.04
[22:57] <edge> How do i disable the trash can in dolphin?
[23:37] <benonsoftware> hi