[02:38] <sarnold> gizmoguy: thanks, https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/22.04/release/ should work now
[02:41] <gizmoguy> sarnold: it does now load for me - thanks!
[02:41] <sarnold> \o/


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[00:00] <wild_oscar> ehasenle: do you also have postfix
[00:00] <wild_oscar> ?
[00:00] <ehasenle> yes, postfix runs
[00:00] <hggdh> VXxed: see http://www.acpi.info
[00:01] <VXxed> Danke
[00:01] <hggdh> bitte
[00:01] <VXxed> I will be off, and hopefully will return with functional fans, and the skin on my thighs intact.
[00:01] <hggdh> heh
[00:02] <wild_oscar> meh...
[00:02] <wild_oscar> ffs
[00:02] <VXxed> That was...comforting....
[00:02] <wild_oscar> then I'm hopeless
[00:02] <VXxed> I click the "ACPI support in PhoenixBIOS" link and it simply doesn't exist...404 tells the tale...
[00:02] <ehasenle> wild_oscar: can you provide a complete process list (before nfsd runs)?
[00:03] <wild_oscar> ehasenle: with "ps aux" ?
[00:03] <ehasenle> it would be very interesting _where_ S20nfs-kernel-server start hangs
[00:03] <ehasenle> yep, ps aux
[00:03] <ehasenle> maybe also pstree
[00:08] <wild_oscar> ehasenle: will try that. just on a sanity check, I've removed nfs-kernel-server
[00:08] <wild_oscar> only thing that you did was "apt-get install nfs-kernel-server", correct?
[00:09] <ehasenle> well, after the uninstall and the reboot
[00:09] <wild_oscar> yes. after that, was that the only command?
[00:10] <ehasenle> yes, only command
[00:10] <jessture1> can anyone tell me where to look to fix the volume on-screen-display when im watching youtube or other flash video on fullscreen?
[00:13] <VXxed> Holy sweet jesus
[00:15] <maco> a build error ain't a fix
[00:15] <maco> wrong chan
[00:21] <VXxed> hggdh?  The 727 page documentation of ACPI has one thing about apci, and it's not descriptive of what apci actually is lol
[00:22] <wild_oscar> well, it's late, I'll see that in the morning ehasenle
[00:22] <wild_oscar> having some other issues
[00:22] <ehasenle> ok, bye, need some sleep too
[01:17] <VXxed> Hey, is anyone here?
[01:34] <micahg> yes VXxed
[01:39] <VXxed> So, hggdh tried to help me already, but I want to make sure of something
[01:39] <VXxed> My fans aren't working too well, and I mean my laptop fans aren't turning on.
[01:40] <VXxed> I was going to go edit the grub loader to fiddle with ACPI loading
[01:40] <VXxed> But I noticed that, on top of not knowing how to edit it, the fan was on
[01:40] <VXxed> And the fan stayed on right until Ubuntu actually loaded.
[01:41] <VXxed> So, what do I do?  Do I need to edit grub?
[01:42] <micahg> hope hggdh comes back ;)
[01:42] <micahg> idk, you said it still didn't work
[02:08] <VXxed> Question again!
[02:08] <VXxed> Because I refuse to stop before midnight tonight.
[02:09] <VXxed> So, looking at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ACPI_fan_control_script I realized that they're forcing the existence of one of those laptop company specific drivers with modprobe
[02:09] <VXxed> But try as I might, it says the fujitsu_laptop.c one doesn't exist
[02:09] <VXxed> Even though I tabbed the entire way there
[02:09] <micahg> VXxed: could be one is missing, idk
[02:10] <VXxed> But I..tabbed the name in
[02:10] <VXxed> I'm looking at the file, too
[02:10] <VXxed> module not found...
[02:11] <VXxed> Wait.  The code here just goes modprobe ibm_acpi
[02:11] <VXxed> They don't go to the .c file.
[03:00] <VXxed> Is anyone here?
[03:00]  * micahg is still here
[03:02] <VXxed> Hey there.
[03:02] <VXxed> So...here's my thought on this now
[03:03] <VXxed> I'm thinking that since the fujitsu-laptop.c file has nothing about any sort of fan control in it (are the .c files the ones that control acpi functions?  Just wanna make sure), I may need to fix the DSDT?
[03:05] <VXxed> Am I correct in my thinking or...horribly wrong?
[03:12] <micahg> i have no idea :)
[03:19] <rasiq> Good Night
[03:19] <micahg> hi
[03:20] <rasiq> Serious bug on Karmic Netbook Remix 9.10..
[03:20] <VXxed> You too?
[03:20] <micahg> now, the reporter of bug 460121 said that it was caused by having an SDHC card in a regular SD slot
[03:20] <VXxed> High five.
[03:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 460121 in ubiquity "ubiquity hangs on step 2 (Karmic RC)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460121
[03:20] <micahg> is that the case for you as well rasiq?
[03:20] <rasiq> Yes.. same problem here..
[03:20] <micahg> that's not a problem with UBuntu if your netbook doesn't support SDHC
[03:22] <rasiq> Since past installation with 9.04 works well.. and my netbook support SDHC.. appear to be a Ubuntu problem..
[03:22] <micahg> or does your netbook support the high capacity cards?
[03:22] <micahg> ok
[03:22] <micahg> that's a different story :)
[03:22] <rasiq> I can read/write the card on my nb.. no problem with that on jaunty..
[03:23] <rasiq> the main problem is..since installation crashes.. i can´t build a home partition onto the SD card..
[03:23] <rasiq> the installation only runs with the internal memory.. what is very bad..
[03:24] <rasiq> well.. very bad for netbook users like me.. Desktop version are going well :)
[03:25] <rasiq> And intel support is wonderful now :)
[03:25] <micahg> ok, you might want to check in #ubuntu-installer, or come back tomorrow morning when someone else is here :)
[03:25] <micahg> unfortunately, I don't know much about the installer
[03:26] <micahg> or rather in the morning
[03:27] <rasiq> np.. will post on ubuntu-installer.. and come back tomorrow..
[03:27] <rasiq> thank you anyway..
[03:27] <micahg> good luck
[03:27] <rasiq> just worried about problems on final version..
[03:27] <micahg> yes, well, then please come back in the morning :)
[03:27] <rasiq> by this trying to advice soon I can..
[03:32] <micahg> thank you rasiq
[04:51] <VXxed> Does anyone in here at this very moment know about ACPI type things?
[09:13] <wild_oscar> 7j #struts
[09:14] <wild_oscar> oops :p
[10:58] <cbx33> anyone aware of an existing bug about bluetooth networking not working, despite it being touted as a feature in the release notes?
[11:10] <matti> ;]
[11:58] <tc111> i need to know who to contact about a missing deb package for linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-16-lpia
[12:07] <indus> hi
[12:07] <indus> asac: hi
[12:07] <asac> hi
[12:08] <indus> asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/396460
[12:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 396460 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox 3.5 'final' version is in repos but on installation, tooltip in menu still says 'beta'" [Low,Fix committed]
[12:08] <indus> asac: is this released? i can mark it so then
[12:09] <indus> asac: i remember filing this bug, but i moved on to karmic sincethen
[12:12] <indus> asac: seems fixed, but iam ,  not sure cos i edited it in alacarte
[12:14] <asac> i hope its fixed
[12:15] <asac> bbi 15 minutes
[13:42] <Armageddon> I filed two bug reports yesterday under already created topics, how can I find if anyone answered to those !
[13:43] <Armageddon> found them
[14:36] <bddebian> Boo
[14:40] <VXxed> Is anyone available that can help me with my laptop fan issue?  I have it fully documented here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1300733
[18:18] <ikt> for kernelloops / crashes list them under package linux or .. another?
[18:18] <bdmurray> linux
[18:18] <ikt> kk
[18:18] <ikt> cheers :)
[19:43] <hggdh> hey charlie-tca, welcome back!
[19:44] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[19:44] <charlie-tca> Good to be back
[19:44] <hggdh> good to see you here. I hope life is better
[19:48] <charlie-tca> It is improving daily
[20:47] <hggdh> micahg: do you know how https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/Places_Vacuum is going?
[20:48] <micahg> I think they added some compile flags to sqlite that we don't have yet
[20:48] <micahg> resulting in bug 229003 and bug 457791
[20:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 229003 in sqlite3 "Build sqlite3 with fts3 fulltext search " [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/229003
[20:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 457791 in sqlite3 "Build sqlite3 with SQLITE_SECURE_DELETE" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/457791
[20:51] <crashsystems> I've noticed what looks like a boot experience bug that involves the encrypted swap set up with encrypted home directories. I could not find a bug on LP, though I did find a post on UbuntuForums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8166845). Is this a known issue, or should I report a bug in launchpad? If I should report it, what package should I assign it to?
[20:57] <rasiq> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/460121
[20:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 460121 in ubiquity "ubiquity hangs on step 2 (Karmic RC)" [Undecided,New]
[20:58] <rasiq> just reporting a bug on karmic netbook remix... installation hangs when a sdhc card is inserted..
[21:03] <hggdh> hum
[21:05] <rasiq> this affects who wants to make a home partition onto a sd card.. those that have a internal flash disk and an external big one..
[21:08] <rasiq> brb
[21:14] <crashsystems> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/461442
[21:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 461442 in cryptsetup "Seeing "swap: waiting for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1" for several seconds while booting" [Undecided,New]
[21:49] <bdmurray> micahg: can you peak at bug 461006?
[21:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 461006 in prism "unable to run two prism instances same time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/461006
[21:56] <Tiibiidii> there's someone who upgraded from jaunty to karmic here (and now uses the default karmic theme)?
[21:56] <Tiibiidii> i've noticed a strange thing with my power applet and bluetooth applet (the second one fixed itself after some time)
[21:58] <Tiibiidii> the icon doesn't use the new karmic icons theme... i tried logging with another user and it works fine, tried reinstalling the packages that contains the icons but it still get stuck with this icon (it's not the jaunty human icon, either... it's another one... maybe clearlooks)
[22:19] <micahg> bdmurray: looking
[22:19] <micahg> bdmurray: I get 2 screen fine
[22:20] <bdmurray> micahg: could you untag it regression-potential and look into it then?
[22:20] <micahg> let me try the reader app
[22:24] <micahg> bdmurray: I should remove the tag because it works for me?
[22:25] <bdmurray> well because it is doesn't have any verification if you will
[22:27] <micahg> ah, ok
[22:29] <bdmurray> dtchen: what is the regression with bug 409819?
[22:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 409819 in pulseaudio "[regression] Built-in mic not working after pulse updates on Karmic.  Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) sound card." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409819
[22:34] <bdmurray> micahg: actually I can recreate it
[22:35] <micahg> ok
[22:35] <micahg> how?
[22:38] <bdmurray> micahg: I was only able to recreate it the first time I was running them
[22:49] <micahg> bdmurray: so what does that mean?
[22:49] <bdmurray> I'm uncertain
[22:57] <slacker_nl> can someone help me for a sec, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/215666 reopening that bug would be new or in progress (it is not really new)
[22:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 215666 in usplash "fsck messages are not cleared from usplash when check is finished" [Undecided,Fix released]
[23:01] <bdmurray> slacker_nl: what do you need help with?
[23:04] <slacker_nl> bdmurray: if i reopen that bug (because I think the bug is not solved, would that be, in progress/new/confirmed?
[23:05] <bdmurray> slacker_nl: Well, somebody seems to have already confirmed it so Confirmed sounds good.  However, please include information regarding the version of usplash and the messages seen etc....
[23:06] <slacker_nl> i confirmed it, since it came from comfirmed
[23:09] <bdmurray> and what messages did you see?
[23:13] <slacker_nl> bdmurray: the same as before, could not mount some entries from fstab, hit escape for some kind of shell, the mounts, and then again the same message, with less mounts and then it boots
[23:14] <slacker_nl> it shows the mounts which it cannot mount atm
[23:14] <bdmurray> and you have quiet enabled correct?
[23:15] <slacker_nl> yes, but lemme double check
[23:15] <slacker_nl> yes
[23:17] <slacker_nl> bdmurray: i'm talking to ion right now, spoke to him a couple of days ago about this
[23:27] <bdmurray> wow bug 461434 is something else
[23:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 461434 in ubuntu "Targus PA905 Ext Floppy Drive works!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/461434
[23:27] <ZachK_> bdmurray, hello
[23:28] <bdmurray> ZachK_: hi
[23:29] <ZachK_> bdmurray, i sent you an email..did you get it?
[23:30] <bdmurray> ZachK_: yes I did receive it
[23:30] <ZachK_> bdmurray, ok and?
[23:33] <bdmurray> ZachK_: How did you try to join the team?  I never received an e-mail notification about it.
[23:33] <ZachK_> bdmurray, hmmm...one sec
[23:34] <ZachK_> bdmurray, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/
[23:35] <bdmurray> Okay, well regardless you should look at and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[23:36] <bdmurray> Actually, I did mail you the application
[23:38] <ZachK_> bdmurray, i haven't received email
[23:40] <bdmurray> ZachK_: it was to a different gmail address than your latest message to me
[23:40] <ZachK_> bdmurray, ok
[23:40] <bdmurray> the one with the 17 in it
[23:41] <ZachK_> hmmm....weird..not that it went to that one..just that i didn't get it yet
[23:42] <bdmurray> If you send an application to the bugcontrol mailing list following the instructions at the wiki page we'll be happy to review it
[23:43] <ZachK_> ok
[23:43] <ZachK_> i'll read the wiki list
[23:43] <ZachK_> or page i mean


[00:00] <Unit193> make test
[00:00] <knome> oh right, abstract doesn't allow a section child.
[00:01] <knome> (i saw your message from earlier)
[00:01] <knome> now that is... unfortunate.
[00:02] <knome> while it doesn't validate, it builds, so it's not a high priority item
[00:03] <knome> i'll think of something at some point.
[00:03] <Unit193> Sure, but you won't be able to upload 'xubuntu-docs', soo. :D
[00:04] <knome> nope.
[00:04] <knome> we'll need an upload for the translations anyway
[00:04] <knome> and that can't happen now
[00:04] <knome> so i'll have time
[00:04] <knome> if it rolls over w+1, then it does
[00:05] <knome> at the core, we might even want to change more things around
[00:05] <knome> eg. i'm not sure if the abstract is the right place for this information
[00:05] <knome> instead, it might be better inside another tag
[00:07] <knome> also because the abstract looks a bit weird for the pdf
[00:07] <knome> or at least it's not perfect
[00:10] <jjfrv8> knome, correctness is part of it, certainly.  But also more subjective stuff, like did I include all of the new features and give them the right amount of emphasis?
[00:11] <jjfrv8> I also covered the menus in more detail than the old version.  Too much?
[00:11] <jjfrv8> I'm also unsure of how to handle the plugins. Keep the same ones and as separate sections? Or fold them into Working with Files and Folders?
[00:12] <knome> jjfrv8, right. i'm sure other people will be able to help with that too :)
[00:13] <knome> i'll investigate... and of course, we can always get the final sign-off by simon
[00:13] <jjfrv8> okay by me
[00:14] <knome> but i'm relatively sure - without seeing the new docs - that your judgement is good and it's all ok :)
[00:14] <jjfrv8> bad assumption :)
[00:14] <knome> heh
[00:14] <knome> we'll see!
[00:40] <knome> ok, time to go to bed
[00:40] <knome> nighty!
[19:55] <flocculant> just in case anyone tries the daily - don't bother ... bug 1495017
[19:56] <flocculant> jjfrv8: you can ignore that :D
[21:13] <ochosi> meh, remote went offline. please re-ping in case i missed something
[21:14] <knome> 05:35  bluesabre: flocculant, jjfrv8, ochosi: uploaded a new release of  xfpanel-switch to xubuntu-staging. For some reason it displays  preinstalled templates twice there, but seems to work otherwise.  Please give it a shot when you have a chance so I can upload to wily  tomorrow :)
[21:14] <knome> 05:36  bluesabre: flocculant, jjfrv8, ochosi: release notes:  https://launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch/1.0/1.0.1
[21:14] <knome> 09:24  flocculant: bluesabre ochosi - just so you're aware, updates is bring LO  1.5 in - also installing the galaxy style
[21:14] <knome> that's my lastlog after you said something
[21:15] <ochosi> k thanks
[21:15] <knome> np
[23:33] <knome> off for now, ttyl


[14:58] <rfleming> Morning!
[15:07] <rfleming> Do any of you smart GNOME people know how to change the mount options for gvfsd-fuse?  I want to allow the option allow_root
[19:34] <melodie> hi
[19:34] <melodie> what is the latest LTS? Is it Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04.2 ?
[19:34] <melodie> or is there a more recent one?
[19:34] <melodie> I have installed that one version
[19:35] <melodie> and strangely, the file "lock" is in the system and needs to be removed manually in /var/lib/dpkg else, apt won't work.
[19:35] <melodie> what do you think?
[21:23] <melodie> ok good night


[07:13] <czajkowski> popey: thank you for bringing up that topic! *hugs*
[07:16] <popey> heh np
[14:59]  * slangasek waves
[14:59] <ev> hiya
[14:59] <mvo> hello
[14:59]  * stgraber waves
[14:59] <bdmurray> hi
[15:00] <barry> hi
[15:00] <slangasek> #startmeeting
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[15:00] <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
[15:00] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jhunt mvo ev bdmurray slangasek)
[15:01] <slangasek> doko jhunt cjwatson slangasek mvo bdmurray stgraber barry ev
[15:01] <ev> woohoo! I win
[15:01] <slangasek> :-)
[15:01] <stgraber> ;)
[15:01] <slangasek> doko: care to start us off? :)
[15:01]  * ev frantically types
[15:01] <doko> oops, jhunt, please go ahead ...
[15:01] <jhunt> Lots of work on bug 829980, bug 849414 and bug 818177.
[15:01] <jhunt> ♫
[15:02] <cjwatson> d-i: avoid grub-installer crash with legacy non-os-prober menu generation (#851704)
[15:02] <cjwatson> xdeb: upload 0.6.5, sync to oneiric
[15:02] <cjwatson> grub2: recovery mode gfxpayload tweak (#854967)
[15:02] <cjwatson> ubiquity: SSID Unicode fix (#839143), async geoname fetching (#837217), oem-config Qt encoding fix (#837042), reliable disk ordering (#770711), fix oem-config-prepare KDE logout inhibition (#856418), kill update-apt-cache reliably (#743359), working on Chinese language handling (#590108)
[15:02] <cjwatson> --
[15:02] <cjwatson> patch pilot on Tuesday morning
[15:04] <slangasek> jhunt: any closer to the bottom on bug #818177? :)
[15:05] <jhunt> jhunt: no :(
[15:05] <slangasek> :(
[15:05] <jhunt> problem is partly being able to reproduce the issue.
[15:06] <jhunt> adam has a high hit rate, but I set up a system to reboot constantly and didn't get a hit in 25 reboots.
[15:06] <slangasek> right
[15:06] <doko> ok, ready
[15:06] <slangasek> can he give you console access to his system?
[15:06] <jhunt> I've tried lots of lvms, lots of plain disks.
[15:06] <cjwatson> might help to widen the race by deliberately slowing down some relevant udev rules?
[15:07] <cjwatson> usually a helpful tactic with race conditions
[15:07] <jhunt> I'll try that. I've tried slowing down some *disks* but that didn't help :)
[15:08] <cjwatson> incidentally somebody posted to ubuntu-users with a problem opening /root/dev/console; they say that they fixed it by fscking
[15:08] <cjwatson> dunno if that's relevant ...
[15:09] <jhunt> hmmm
[15:09] <cjwatson> admittedly that was with 10.04, and it's not quite your same bug
[15:09] <cjwatson> so ignore if it's a distraction :)
[15:10] <slangasek> fscking!
[15:10] <jhunt> I'll keep it in mind.
[15:10] <jhunt> :)
[15:10] <slangasek> doko: go ahead
[15:10] <doko> - some last ftbfs fixes (xdotool, ruby-rails, ghdl, mmpong, xzgv, qcontrol)
[15:10] <doko> - OpenJDK6 fixes for armel, IcedTea-Web update
[15:10] <doko> - start working on toolchain updates for the p-series
[15:10] <doko> - propose to better handle library syncs from experimental (ubuntu-devel)
[15:10] <doko> - document new compiler flags: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilerFlags
[15:10] <doko> - write up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P-SeriesOpening
[15:10] <doko> done
[15:11] <cjwatson> heh, I'd actually like perl 5.14 but only if Debian does it first ...
[15:12] <cjwatson> (Debian #637809)
[15:12] <doko> right, was just looking for an example for each section ;)
[15:13] <doko> would like to get some feedback on this list, but maybe after the lightning round
[15:13] <cjwatson> the list looked OK although we should do debhelper early as well
[15:14] <doko> right, my intention is to write to u-d, to have people add things
[15:15] <cjwatson> should probably only list things that block general opening though
[15:15] <slangasek> thanks for the mail about experimental libraries too, I hope we'll see some improvement in how those are handled this cycle
[15:16] <slangasek> me next:
[15:16] <slangasek> - lots of flicker-free boot testing over the weekend
[15:16] <slangasek> - fixed initramfs to include vesafb fallback on FRAMEBUFFER=y, fixing bug 864149, bug 563878, bug 771905
[15:16] <slangasek> - revert various nvidia blacklists that are counterproductive needed (bug #854967, bug #864149)
[15:16] <slangasek> - write up some documentation of how the boot-time graphics fit together
[15:16] <slangasek> - teased the intel guys about nvidia working better
[15:16] <slangasek> - work with Clint to pin an issue with failsafe network handling (bug #863864)
[15:16] <slangasek> - work with stgraber to fix text messages showing on the console in ubiquity (bug #813065)
[15:16] <slangasek> - taught debhelper to always pass dpkg-buildflags to perl MakeMaker build system.  Harden the world!
[15:16] <slangasek> ..
[15:17] <slangasek> questions?
[15:17] <bdmurray> slangasek: where is the boot time graphics documentation?
[15:17] <slangasek> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootGraphicsArchitecture
[15:17] <slangasek> bdmurray: good point :)
[15:18] <mvo> my turn?
[15:18] <slangasek> mvo: yep!
[15:18] <mvo> software-center: fix HOME base license keys debug/fix xapian DocumentNotFound hang, fix crash in software-center a-x-i plugin (#819907), code review/branch merges, merge lp:~gary-lasker/software-center/license-fix-lp864706 and add test, debug/fix #865985 and add test-case, update html/qml versions to trunk
[15:18] <mvo> update-manager: fix leaking auth info into upgrade log (#839094), test/upload u-m crashfix on amd64/multiarch, reproduce/fix gcc-4.4 upgrade issue (#853688)
[15:18] <mvo> update-notifier: finish appindicator port, test, upload to oneiric (in the queue)
[15:18] <mvo> python-apt: fix crash with latest vte (#865388), add __cmp__ for apt.Package to make sorting by name the default on apt.Package sorts
[15:18] <mvo> unattended-upgrades: merge fix from Iain Nicol
[15:19] <mvo> apt: work on lp:~mvo/apt/apt-key-net-update-master-fix2
[15:19] <mvo> misc: bug triage, send initial patch and test libgnome-desktop3/gnome-settings-daemon dpms fix (#862139), test/upload libglib2.0-data fix for bug #854622, ran into libappindicator bug #833945 and propose fix,  libcanberra: create fix for crash in gtk-module #834403 that affects s-c
[15:19] <mvo> piston-mini-client: work on better proxy support (LP: #863717)
[15:19] <mvo> aptdaemon: fix crash in progress #858684
[15:19] <mvo> EOF
[15:20] <bdmurray> bug triage and testing of iso-testing bug reports
[15:20] <bdmurray> ubuntu bug control application review for Fathi, Ahmed Shams
[15:20] <bdmurray> adding in date generated information to ubuntu-reports reports
[15:20] <bdmurray> team recent package bugs improvements (display median numbers and not just top 5 packages)
[15:20] <bdmurray> changing colors of fixing and triaging graphs to match colors Launchpad uses for bug statuses (LP: #855517)
[15:20] <bdmurray> set up apport on cranberry and implemented a consolidate-bugs bugpatterns script there
[15:20] <bdmurray> fixed lp_buttontags to reload the web page with the tag consistently
[15:20] <bdmurray> writing an lpltk script to open series tasks and copy status / importance
[15:20] <bdmurray> set up postgres and udd on the canonistack server
[15:20] <bdmurray> review bugs found with similar titles using udd
[15:20] <bdmurray> emailed debian title matches to Ursula for server team packages
[15:20] <bdmurray> patch piloting
[15:20] <bdmurray> \ done /
[15:21] <stgraber> - Did a few last minute uploads for Edubuntu (translation update and bugfix)
[15:21] <stgraber> - Mostly poked at Ubiquity this bug, trying to fix as many bugs as possible, will continue for the rest of the week
[15:21] <stgraber>  - Support gsettings (bug 800760), copy Network Manager networks to the target, hopefully fix bug 657086 for good, http proxy support, ...
[15:21] <stgraber> - Trying to get WebLive to work on Oneiric, an appserv is online since yesterday but I now have to port some of the arkose hacks and freenx/x2go to work on Oneiric
[15:21] <stgraber> - Played a bit more with Drupal over the weekend, should have all the QA modules EXCEPT the ISO tracker ported to Drupal 7 quite soon. Then to start poking at the ISO tracker :)
[15:21] <stgraber> - TODO
[15:21] <stgraber>  - Edubuntu smoke testing (images currently building) and upgrade testing
[15:21] <stgraber>  - Booked some time with highvoltage and mgariepy to go talk about Edubuntu and go through the final checklist on Friday
[15:21] <stgraber>  - Next week I'll be in London for the release sprint
[15:21] <stgraber> (done)
[15:22] <barry> short week due to holiday; bug 795096 (turbojson ftbfs, python-peak.util); bug 850744 (quickly crash after upgrade); storm 0.19 release work, built out (natty for now) arm server & buildbot.  todo: merge python3-defaults from sid; update storm, gtimelog, flufl.* in debian; more ftbfs; investigate python test_socket failures on arm; done.
[15:25] <ev> - Helped John update the screenshots for the 11.10 download tour and showed
[15:25] <ev>   him how the release announcement is done in update-manager.
[15:25] <ev> - Released a new slideshow with updated translations at the request of the
[15:25] <ev>   Lithuanian team.
[15:25] <ev> - Created a patch to ubiquity and partman-auto to account for swap size and
[15:25] <ev>   the installation size when calculating the bounds of the partition resizing.
[15:25] <ev>   Previously we were going with whatever partman-auto threw at us, which was
[15:25] <ev>   often too small to hold Ubuntu (bug 769350).  Merges awaiting review.
[15:25] <ev> - Call with mvo and Rick on improving the development cycle. Lots of really
[15:25] <ev>   good plans from Rick and Jason on this front. I'm quite excited to see the
[15:25] <ev>   final work discussed at UDS. I've signed myself up to help cheer and
[15:25] <ev>   develop.
[15:25] <ev> - Follow up chat with John Lea about how this could apply to the approval
[15:25] <ev>   process for Unity design and engineering.
[15:25] <ev> - Reviewed the download page design with John Oxton.
[15:25] <ev> - Set up a netbook with a mocked up Windows for John to do further screenshots
[15:25] <ev>   of the 11.10 installer.
[15:25] <ev> - Created a Testing in Ubuntu event for the Wednesday night at UDS with the
[15:25] <ev>   assistance of Marianna and Jorge, following the call with Rick and mvo.  You
[15:25] <ev>   should all come and give five minute talks:
[15:25] <ev>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-P/TestingInUbuntu
[15:25] <slangasek> barry: that quickly issue was an interesting one... glad to see it was package-specific :)
[15:25] <ev>   There will be free beer and pizza.  What more could you want?
[15:25] <ev> - After helping Sian direct our PR agency on how to get the 11.10 Beta when
[15:25] <ev>   they were woefully lost in the depths of the Ubuntu Forums, I had a
[15:25] <ev>   discussion with John about getting the milestones displayed in the same
[15:25] <barry> slangasek: me too! :)
[15:25] <ev>   download page structure as the regular releases, for 12.04.  With a big
[15:25] <ev>   warning that this is a pre-release and the final version will come in April,
[15:25] <ev>   of course. We can do better than a link that's buried in the Google results
[15:25] <ev>   that points to a complex wiki page that in turn points to a complex cdimage
[15:25] <ev>   page with no instruction on burning a CD or USB disk until you're deep in
[15:25] <ev>   paragraphs and paragraphs of text.  This should be a job for the web team,
[15:25] <ev>   anyway.
[15:25] <mvo> meh, I forgot to add this call to my report, thanks ev for mentioning it!
[15:25] <ev> - In VirtualBox and Windows 7 hell.  The former lost sight of the Windows 7
[15:25] <ev>   disk, despite it being just fine, and the latter refused to boot when I
[15:25] <ev>   tried any of the snapshots I've made over the past few months.  The Windows
[15:25] <ev>   install CD is crashing at boot.  Will hopefully have something sorted
[15:25] <ev>   sharpish so I can fix Wubi bugs.
[15:25] <ev> - Fixed the focusing of labels when we're in a screen reader profile (bug
[15:25] <ev>   856782, bug 856773).
[15:25] <ev> - Fixed a crasher around the ubiquity keyboard query (bug 865493) and a UI
[15:25] <ev>   issue with the keyboard test entry (bug 862309).
[15:25] <ev> - Tried time and time again to fix the killing of update-apt-cache (bug
[15:25] <ev>   743359). Colin got it in the end - thanks!
[15:25] <ev> (done)
[15:25] <ev> apols for the ranting :)
[15:26] <mvo> ev: is john interessted in better release announcements for u-m ?
[15:26] <slangasek> ev: did the Lithuanian team miss the translation deadline?
[15:26] <cjwatson> should be a job for the web team> er, only if they're prepared to be involved in cdimage maintenance :)
[15:26] <slangasek> if so... that's not the first time
[15:26] <ev> mvo: very much so
[15:26] <cjwatson> it is indeed not
[15:26] <mvo> ev: cooool!
[15:27] <ev> he has a task for improving the download experience
[15:27] <cjwatson> oh, wait, download page != releases.ubuntu.com index
[15:27] <ev> which includes upgrades
[15:27] <ev> you should get in touch :)
[15:27] <cjwatson> yeah, download page => web team, sorry for my confusion
[15:27] <ev> cjwatson: we should leave releases.ubuntu.com alone
[15:27] <ev> indeed
[15:27] <ev> and just have the ubuntu website point at the right ISO
[15:27] <mvo> ev: absolutely, thanks for this! code-wise, it should be all ready I think, good content is missing
[15:27] <ev> slangasek: they did not
[15:28] <ev> I failed to do an 11th hour upload
[15:28] <ev> I had done one the day before the deadline
[15:28] <cjwatson> speaking of 11th hour translation uploads, I need to do gfxboot-theme-ubuntu nowish because there was a late string change from server ...
[15:28] <slangasek> ev: ah, ok then :)
[15:28] <cjwatson> (I did the string change last week or so, but would like to catch up on translations now)
[15:28] <slangasek> Windows install CD is crashing at boot - haha
[15:29] <ev> I love that step 1 of the "to fix the problem" steps is "insert your windows installation disc and restart your computer"
[15:29] <slangasek> for all the bugs we've ever seen, I don't think we've ever had *that* problem ;)
[15:29] <cjwatson> ev: what's the brief state of the wubi at the moment?  it's the only thing where I'm not entirely sure whether we're showstopper-free at the moment
[15:29] <ev> cjwatson: I *think* we're largely okay
[15:30] <ev> jibel has been testing it a bit
[15:30] <ev> and I've been running through it as often as possible
[15:30] <cjwatson> I noticed a few bugs recently, but they didn't seem horribly serious
[15:30] <ev> pretty quiet on the bugs front
[15:30] <ev> i
[15:30] <ev> ndeed
[15:30] <skaet> ev, does it make sense to get a signed copy ready now then?
[15:30] <ev> I'm trying to get a quick fix in for the plymouth splash one
[15:30] <ev> skaet: that's an excellent idea - but I'm going to wait until early next week
[15:31] <ev> just so I can get these sorts of tiny fixes in
[15:31] <ev> and then I'll ask James to take care of that
[15:31] <skaet> ev, ok. thanks.
[15:31] <ev> so we have it ready way ahead of release
[15:31] <slangasek> ev: what's the plymouth splash issue, OOI?
[15:31] <cjwatson> early next week> when are we planning to build candidate images though?
[15:31] <slangasek> is that 862007?
[15:32] <ev> incidentally, fairly quiet on the wubi bugs front.  Once we have the metrics server running early doors in 12.04, I think that will dramatically change our confidence in it
[15:32] <ev> and the crash server, obviously
[15:32] <ev> yes, bug 862007
[15:32] <ev> tiny
[15:32] <ev> and could probably do it in trunk and just build
[15:32] <ev> but it's always good to test these things :)
[15:32] <slangasek> dramatically change our confidence> I hope you mean "For the better" :)
[15:32] <ev> yes
[15:33] <mvo> *xough*
[15:33] <mvo> cough even
[15:33] <ev> even in the absence of bug reports, we'll know how many wubi installs are succeeding or failing
[15:33] <ev> and where
[15:33] <slangasek> skaet: when are you planning to start build candidate images?
[15:33] <skaet> cjwatson, first set of candidate issues on thursday/friday after langpacks land,  then turn on official, on next monday and rebuild full set.
[15:33] <ev> it will be a brave new world
[15:33] <slangasek> ok
[15:33] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseProcess
[15:33] <slangasek> skaet: since wubi goes on the CDs, that means we need a signed copy by then...
[15:34] <ev> ah okay
[15:34] <skaet> slangasek,  so it seems.   Right now calling for rleease minus 3 days,  but better if earlier.
[15:34] <cjwatson> so how about we just sign as we go along
[15:34] <ev> yes, I'll talk to james
[15:35] <cjwatson> I think the process is faster now
[15:35] <skaet> thanks.
[15:35] <slangasek> ev: great, thanks :)
[15:35] <ev> err, IS seems to have fled
[15:35] <ev> must have realized we have a release coming up and all decided to take holiday
[15:35] <cjwatson> wise decision
[15:35] <ev> lol
[15:35] <slangasek> [ACTION] ev to talk to james about getting wubi builds signed as we go so we don't hold up CD candidates
[15:35] <meetingology`> ACTION: ev to talk to james about getting wubi builds signed as we go so we don't hold up CD candidates
[15:36] <slangasek> btw, speaking of holidays and releases, next Monday is a bank holiday here in the US
[15:37] <barry> slangasek: yep.  i swapped the day, so i will be working
[15:37] <ev> Arbor Day?
[15:37] <barry> columbus day
[15:37] <ev> oh, that dude
[15:37] <barry> yeah, go figure :)
[15:37] <ev> :)
[15:37] <slangasek> I'm off... which I guess means I'll only be working on the release in my free time? :)
[15:38] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
[15:38] <slangasek> bdmurray: find any interesting specimens for us this week?
[15:38] <bdmurray> So I had a few in mind but it seems we move too fast and they are already be looked at
[15:38] <bdmurray> Luckily there are still a couple
[15:39] <bdmurray> bug 856055 - which I'm not quite certain that should be High
[15:39] <ev> ...it never did?
[15:39] <cjwatson> mm, I think that should probably be downgraded, it's hardware-specific
[15:39] <doko> strange definition of luck ...
[15:40] <cjwatson> no obvious fix upstream and I don't think any of us have a clue how to fix it ::)
[15:40] <cjwatson> :)
[15:40] <cjwatson> I'll downgrade it
[15:40] <bdmurray> okay sounds good
[15:40] <bdmurray> slangasek: we'd talked about bug 859188 once before but I don't think I commented on it well enough
[15:41] <bdmurray> so if you could have at it that'd be great
[15:42] <slangasek> mvo: shall I add this to your pile? :)  apt-get install --reinstall doesn't work in the obvious manner when there's more than one arch for the lib
[15:43] <slangasek> commented
[15:43] <mvo> slangasek: thanks, I can have a look
[15:43] <bdmurray> that's all then
[15:44] <slangasek> mvo: "low" is the right priority though IMHO, it's a seldom-used option and there's a workaround
[15:44] <mvo> ok
[15:44] <cjwatson> does anyone have any absolute showstoppers they want to mention?
[15:45] <cjwatson> right now I think bug 857472 is the only one I think qualifies
[15:45] <mvo> I would appreciate some review of #857472
[15:45] <mvo> heh :)
[15:45] <slangasek> or anyone still working on *non* showstoppers that they're anxious to get in?
[15:45] <cjwatson> but I'd like to be able to stand up in the release meeting on Friday and be confident of that
[15:45] <mvo> I implemented the approach that slangasek suggested now but given the nature of this I would appreciate critical review
[15:45] <cjwatson> I'm still working on bug 590108 as I mentioned
[15:46] <cjwatson> but I'm restricting the scope of that to Portuguese and Chinese (i.e. the usual special-case languages)
[15:46] <cjwatson> which I think is all the reporters care about)
[15:46] <barry> slangasek: scottk requested a merge of debian's python3-defaults which is blocking a pyqt fix.  i'm going to get that in after lunch
[15:46] <stgraber> I'm looking at a few ubiquity bugs but nothing that we absolutely need for release
[15:47] <cjwatson> I also want to land the fix for the libdevel-bt-perl build failure that kees and I put together to complete the perl 5.12 transition, but that's universe and non-urgent
[15:47] <ev> I'm going to land the resize fix now and do a new ubiquity upload
[15:47] <stgraber> ev: I may have one more gsettings fix I'd like to have in that ubiquity upload, what's your ETA?
[15:48] <ev> stgraber: planning to leave at 6pm local (just over an hour)
[15:48] <cjwatson> bug 745960 and bug 854837 are my other nice-to-have fixes, but if I run out of time, they aren't showstoppers
[15:48] <jhunt> bug 818177 is pretty nasty as we don't really know what's triggering the problem and it does cause boot failures.
[15:48] <stgraber> ev: ok, I'll see if I can get it fixed by then, otherwise it'll have to be in the next ubiquity upload (assuming we'll have one more ;))
[15:48] <slangasek> mvo: has anyone from the security team reviewed for 857472?  I'd be more confident in their review than my own
[15:48] <cjwatson> jhunt: I agree it's nasty, it's on the edge of my mental showstopper criteria
[15:49] <ev> stgraber: sure - do feel free to upload another one after me
[15:49] <mvo> slangasek: I will ask them
[15:49] <cjwatson> the thing that puts it on the non-showstopper side for me right now is lack of developer ability to reproduce; if you can get a reliable reproduction case I'd be more comfortable calling it a showstopper
[15:49] <skaet> am a little worried about 848915,  since from duplicate patterns it was happening as recently as yesterday.
[15:49] <slangasek> mvo: ok.  If they aren't going to get to it, come back to me and I'll have another look so we at least have some eyeballs on it
[15:49] <cjwatson> bug 848915
[15:50] <cjwatson> mvo: ^?
[15:50] <mvo> cjwatson: this sounds like DISPLAY is not set
[15:50] <cjwatson> hm, you've commented I see
[15:51] <mvo> cjwatson: this was the only way I managed to reproduce
[15:51] <cjwatson> distinctly odd since the reporters seem to be using the GTK frontend though
[15:51] <bdmurray> duplicate bug 867629 has a test case
[15:51] <cjwatson> surely they couldn't have got that far ...
[15:51] <mvo> bdmurray: oh, nice!
[15:52] <mvo> bdmurray: gksu then most likely
[15:53] <cjwatson> yeah, gksu will be sanitising the environment
[15:53] <slangasek> yeah, why would gksu need DISPLAY...
[15:53] <slangasek> :)
[15:55] <slangasek> someone's triaging that one to gksu then?  someone want to work on it?
[15:55] <jhunt> bdmurray, cjwatson, mvo: maybe apport could be changed to include DISPLAY in 'ProcEnviron'?
[15:55] <mvo> I can have a look in a little bit
[15:56] <slangasek> mvo: thanks
[15:56] <slangasek> jhunt++
[15:56] <jhunt> in fact, can't we just include all envar *names*?
[15:57] <slangasek> bdmurray, jhunt: can you follow up on that question on #ubuntu-devel?
[15:57] <cjwatson> slangasek: at this point I'd be more comfortable with a workaround than with changing gksu
[15:57] <slangasek> cjwatson: ok
[15:57] <slangasek> mvo: ^^
[15:58] <mvo> ok
[15:58] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:58] <slangasek> anything else?  You have 1 minute :)
[15:58] <cjwatson> (e.g. env DISPLAY="$DISPLAY" or whatever's appropriate)
[15:58] <ev> I can't believe I have to repeat the words "free beer and pizza", but free beer and pizza: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-P/TestingInUbuntu
[15:58] <ev> In all seriousness, I'm trying to build off the excitement and planning around refining our development process, as we centre it around test systems.  We'll need plenty of knowledge sharing to do this right.
[15:59] <mvo> ev++
[15:59] <cjwatson> I'll see what my energy levels are like by Wednesday ...
[16:00]  * cjwatson <- old man
[16:00] <ev> I joined a few folks in Millbank representing Ubuntu at the PC World Awards.  We didn't win, but rest assured we made more noise at the mispronunciation of our name than any other table.
[16:00] <cjwatson> haha
[16:00] <slangasek> so go sign up to exchange pizza for the contents of your brains at UDS :)
[16:00] <ev> basically, yes
[16:00] <cjwatson> fun black tie dinner?
[16:00] <slangasek> ev: heh :)
[16:00] <ev> it was!
[16:00] <barry> ev: gluten free soy cheese pizza? :)
[16:01] <ev> barry: ask Marianna :)
[16:01] <ev> I'm sure we can find something for you to eat
[16:01] <barry> ev: well, it's orlando, i'm not so sure :)
[16:01] <mvo> remember the veggies
[16:02] <ev> mmm vegetarians
[16:02] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:02] <meetingology`> Meeting ended Wed Oct  5 16:02:30 2011 UTC.
[16:02] <meetingology`> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-05-15.00.moin.txt
[16:02] <slangasek> thanks, everyone!
[16:02] <barry> slangasek: thanks!
[16:02] <jhunt> cheers
[16:02] <mvo> thanks
[16:02] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:02] <doko> thanks
[16:02] <ev> thanks!
[16:03] <bdmurray> thanks
[17:00] <nuclearbob> howdy everybody
[17:00] <nuclearbob> who's here for the qa meeting?
[17:03] <nuclearbob> I see charlie-tca, hggdh, jibel, and pedro_
[17:04]  * pedro_ waves
[17:04] <nuclearbob> and Ursinha, but greyed out
[17:04] <nuclearbob> bdmurray's also greyed out
[17:04] <nuclearbob> I guess we can go ahead and get started
[17:05] <nuclearbob> #startmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology`> Meeting started Wed Oct  5 17:05:01 2011 UTC.  The chair is nuclearbob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[17:05] <meetingology`> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
[17:05] <nuclearbob> [TOPIC] Previous Actions
[17:05] <nuclearbob> only previous action I have is nuclearbob chairing the next meeting, so I think we can check that off
[17:05] <nuclearbob> if there's nothing else, we'll proceed to the next topic
[17:07] <nuclearbob> [TOPIC] Community Efforts/Testing
[17:08] <nuclearbob> jibel, anything on this?
[17:08] <Ursinha> nuclearbob, I'm here!
[17:08] <nuclearbob> groovy
[17:09] <nuclearbob> got anything on community efforts/testing?
[17:09] <Ursinha> not me
[17:09] <nuclearbob> all right
[17:10] <nuclearbob> I guess we're counting down to the Oneiric release at this point
[17:10] <nuclearbob> the last report on that seems to be the same one we had last week:
[17:10] <nuclearbob> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricBeta2TestReport
[17:11] <nuclearbob> If nobody else has anything on that, we can move to the next topic
[17:12] <nuclearbob> [TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing
[17:12] <nuclearbob> still doing qrt over here, I'll try to get that blueprint registered this week
[17:13] <nuclearbob> I'll bring some proposals for dependency specification on different releases to UDS so we can determine the best way to move forward
[17:14] <nuclearbob> jibel had a pretty boot speed chart for us last week, anything new this week on the automation front?
[17:16] <nuclearbob> sounds like not, so we'll move on
[17:16] <nuclearbob> [TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status
[17:17]  * Ursinha has nothing to report, was on holidays
[17:17] <nuclearbob> hggdh, Ursinha, pedro_, or bdummary, do any of you have anything here?
[17:17] <Ursinha> ..
[17:18] <pedro_> nope nothing from here
[17:18] <pedro_> ..
[17:18] <Ursinha> bdmurray, ^
[17:19] <nuclearbob> derp
[17:19] <Ursinha> :P
[17:21] <nuclearbob> sounds like nothing earthshaking to report
[17:21] <nuclearbob> so let's move on
[17:21] <nuclearbob> [TOPIC] Other Topics
[17:23] <nuclearbob> doesn't seem like we have any other topics
[17:23] <Ursinha> the quietest meeting ever
[17:24] <nuclearbob> I guess we can move to the next topic
[17:24] <nuclearbob> [TOPIC] Chair Selection
[17:24] <pedro_> I can do that
[17:24] <nuclearbob> select the chair, or chair?
[17:24] <pedro_> chair the next meeting
[17:25] <Ursinha> :P
[17:25] <nuclearbob> all right
[17:25] <pedro_> is about time i guess :-)
[17:25] <nuclearbob> #action pedto_ to chair next meeting
[17:25] <meetingology`> ACTION: pedto_ to chair next meeting
[17:25] <nuclearbob> er
[17:25] <nuclearbob> #action pedr\o_ to chair next meeting
[17:25] <meetingology`> ACTION: pedr\o_ to chair next meeting
[17:25] <nuclearbob> dangit
[17:25] <pedro_> cool so not me :-)
[17:25] <nuclearbob> #action pedro_ to chair next meeting
[17:25] <meetingology`> ACTION: pedro_ to chair next meeting
[17:25] <pedro_> darn
[17:25] <nuclearbob> I need a smaller enter key
[17:25] <pedro_> lol
[17:25] <nuclearbob> anyway, I think that wraps it up for this week
[17:26] <nuclearbob> thanks everybody
[17:26] <Ursinha> thanks nuclearbob for chairing :)
[17:26] <nuclearbob> #endmeeting
[17:26] <meetingology`> Meeting ended Wed Oct  5 17:26:12 2011 UTC.
[17:26] <meetingology`> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-05-17.05.moin.txt
[17:26] <pedro_> nuclearbob, thanks for chairing !
[17:26] <nuclearbob> no problem
[17:26] <nuclearbob> not a lot of people seem to show up when I do, so it's been easy so far


[03:17] <sbbrtn> I would like to clone a repo from a launchpad project and modify some of the code.  Eventually I want to upload the changed code to a new branch my launchpad account.  Can someone please help me with this?
[10:03] <jam> mgz: poke
[10:14] <mgz> jam: hey
[10:14] <jam> mgz: 1:1 ?
[10:15] <mgz> jam: mumble?
[10:15] <jam> mgz: sure, though we have the standup right after :)
[19:53] <DarkLinkXXXX> FATAL ERROR: Disconnected: No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey)
[19:54] <DarkLinkXXXX> Why is it doing this, and how can I fix it? I googled it and found nothing.


[02:34] <DaSkreech> Yup it crashes when I mouse over the taskbar with surprising frequency
[02:36] <DaSkreech> anyone in gutsy?
[02:42] <DaSkreech> Beta 3 got pushed back
[02:48] <bddebian> Heya
[02:48] <DaSkreech> hey
[02:49] <bddebian> Heya DaSkreech
[02:49] <DaSkreech> Running Gutsy?
[02:49] <bddebian> One one machine, yes
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Fairly up to date?
[02:50] <bddebian> dist-upgrading as we speak :-)
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Ok when you are done can you go to System Settings -> Monitor -> Adminstrator mode  and confirm that it can't change the resolution ?
[02:52] <bddebian> Well that machine is ubuntu not kubuntu
[02:53] <bddebian> Or do you thin it's an xorg issue?
[02:54] <DaSkreech> I do
[02:54] <DaSkreech> Alt+ctrl++ && alt+ctrl+- don't work
[03:10] <jjesse> morning Jucato
[03:11] <Jucato> evening jjesse! :)
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Hi Jucato
[03:11] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[03:11] <Jucato> reloading?
[03:11] <jjesse> new laptop from work and trying to set it back up
[03:12] <Jucato> aw...
[03:12] <Jucato> (yay for new laptop, boo for setting up again and again)
[03:12] <jjesse> i leave for a confrence tomorrow and have to have it all up and running
[03:13] <Jucato> yikes! double boo
[03:13] <jjesse> yeah totally
[03:13] <jjesse> you might be able to replace !nixternal with !jjesse as it is dual booting vista
[03:14] <Jucato> but you don't love it as much as he does
[03:14] <Jucato> so it stays :)
[03:17] <jjesse> grin
[03:17] <Jucato> double double grin
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> whats so exciting?
[03:18] <jjesse> laughing at me reloading my laptop
[03:18] <DaSkreech> triple grins
[03:18] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Gutsy?
[03:19] <Jucato> DaSkreech: what do you mean?
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Running gutsy?
[03:19] <Jucato> yeah
[03:19] <DaSkreech> relatively up to date?
[03:19] <Jucato> yes
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Freezes?
[03:19] <Jucato> yep
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Yeah me too
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Ok when you are done can you go to System Settings -> Monitor -> Adminstrator mode  and confirm that it can't change the resolution ?
[03:20] <Jucato> the error is: run command: /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit
[03:20] <Jucato> I've never been able to change resolutions using displayconfig :)
[03:20] <Jucato> besides, theoretically you shouldn't have to go to Admin mode to change res
[03:21] <Jucato> by never, I mean, ever since there was displayconfig iirc
[03:21] <DaSkreech> I know I saw that as well But Decided to do admin just to make sure that I was able to
[03:21] <Jucato> maybe once or twice I was able to... but extremely rare
[03:21] <DaSkreech> I changed the resolution to waht it is with it
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> display config always worked for me...
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> when i'm not running XGL
[03:22] <Jucato> lucky lucky :)
[03:22] <jjesse> just updated my gutsy and noticed in system settings things don't size correctly
[03:22] <Jucato> maybe on my laptop I will better luck :)
[03:22] <jjesse> example is user management takes qabout 5 lines
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> not really, if I was luck and LUCKY, I wouldn't need XGL
[03:22] <DaSkreech> jjesse: I got a new res
[03:30] <jjesse> ok quick question: whats the best way to get all of my emails out of kmail w/o losing anything?
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: there is a DIR in .kde/share/apps/kmail
[03:32] <jjesse> copy the whole directory?
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> yeah... why not ;)
[03:32] <Jucato> yep
[03:32] <Jucato> might as well copy kmail config files too
[03:33] <jjesse> onq
[03:33] <Jucato> so that you could keep your filters and other settings
[03:33] <jjesse> doh
[03:33] <Jucato> onq?
[03:33] <DaSkreech> can I pass two commands to a ssh session?
[03:33] <jjesse> was typing konq in katapult but messed up
[03:33] <DaSkreech> konq :)
[03:33] <jjesse> ok so i need the .kde/share/apps/kmail folder?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: yeah... that has your mail in it
[03:34] <Jucato> and probably ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc and related *mail* files in there
[03:34] <jjesse> should i just copy my whole ./kde/share directory?
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: cpy your whole .kde ;)
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> that way you won't lose your contacts either
[03:35] <Jucato> why not copy all of ~ :D
[03:36] <DaSkreech> and /etc :)
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> and /
[03:36] <Jucato> and.. and.. aw.. just dd!
[03:36] <DaSkreech> and /..
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> and run a wget http://www.*.*/* in the process
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Beta 3 got pushed back
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> to tomorrow?
[03:39] <Jucato> to be tagged today
[03:39] <Jucato> it *was* pushed back last week. but tagging is Oct 8
[03:39] <Jucato> (which is today here)
[03:40] <DaSkreech> Will be soon here
[03:54] <jjesse> ok copying entire /.kde/share folder
[03:54] <jjesse> lets see if that works
[03:54] <jjesse> i have 30+ gig of vms to copy over :(
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: thats why you have a /home...
[03:55] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: what?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> separate /home that is
[03:56] <jjesse> nosrednaekim: switching laptops so a separate /home wouldn't help would it?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> jjesse:  oh :)
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> .me has been PWN3d
[03:56] <jjesse> grin :) :)
[04:03] <jjesse> ok i copied over my folder and now some of my messages show up as no subject, unkown sender, unknown date and no information in the body
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> oh...fun..
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> jjesse: I think there is a way to back up your data in kmail
[04:04] <jjesse> ok?
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> hmmm maybe there isn't
[04:06] <jjesse> wow that sucks
[04:07] <Jucato> very...
[04:07] <Jucato> I found it extremely hard to migrate most kdepim stuff... but mail most specially
[04:07] <jjesse> so its just a hit or miss if you get your email when you migrate from one computer to another
[04:07] <jjesse> seems very poor
[04:10] <jjesse> so its basically a crap shoot if you get 6 months + of email out of a system
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> .kde always made everything migrate fine..
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> if I cpoied the whole DIR
[04:12] <jjesse> i've always had problems with some emails missing
[04:13] <Jucato> but imho, the fact that it's inconsistent is itself enough to worry about
[04:25] <jjesse> ok more then halfway done copying files
[04:26] <jjesse> just have to make sure everything gets installed correctly
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Hooray powercuts
[05:01] <DaSkreech> And a freeze
[05:04] <coreymon77> is this full freeze?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Yes
[05:06] <DaSkreech> hold on let me see if I get the same modprobe error as Jucato
[05:06] <coreymon77> whens stable comming?
[05:06] <Jucato> 18 Oct
[05:06] <coreymon77> nice
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Jucato: hey
[05:33] <Jucato> yo?
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Do you have kernel logs in Ksystemlog ?
[05:35] <Jucato> no. I believe that's a bug
[05:35] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:35] <DaSkreech> just checking
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: No modprobe errors in Kernel log for me
[05:43] <Jucato> I removed quiet and splash from the GRUB entry to see that
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It freezes on startup?
[05:45] <Jucato> as early as booting the kernel
[05:54] <DaSkreech> Oh
[05:54] <DaSkreech> no
[05:54] <DaSkreech>  My boots are randomly hours after boot
[05:55] <DaSkreech>  and mostly when there is a tooltip on the screen
[05:55] <DaSkreech>  well the Info ballons from the taskbar
[05:55] <DaSkreech>  whatever they are clled
[05:55] <DaSkreech> called
[07:56] <Tm_T> Jucato: poke me
[07:57] <Jucato> s/can/should/
[07:57] <Tm_T> hmh
[07:57] <Jucato> I can poke you... but dunno if I should...
[07:57] <Tm_T> good thinking ;)
[10:41] <DaSkreech> Jucato: When do you expect 4.1 to ship?
[10:41] <Jucato> that depends on when 4.0 ships... :)
[10:41] <Jucato> but I don't want to even think about 4.1 for now
[10:41] <_StefanS_> hey Jucato!
[10:41] <_StefanS_> and all others
[10:41] <Jucato> hi _StefanS_!
[10:42] <_StefanS_> Jucato: dont mind my messy code in kdmtheme btw,.. you will probably do it alot better :)
[10:42] <Jucato> _StefanS_: that's a big PROBABLY
[10:42] <Jucato> maybe in 2010
[10:43] <_StefanS_> Jucato: well if i've had some more time, i would probably have been more satisfied with it
[10:43] <_StefanS_> Jucato: but hey, it works,
[10:43] <Jucato> we'll have more time for Heron :)
[10:44] <_StefanS_> yep
[10:45] <Jucato> if I only had all the skills i need, I want to focus on making Heron the most stable Kubuntu release ever...
[10:46] <Jucato> hm... I'm going on a triaging spree next week maybe...
[10:46] <_StefanS_> yes and if I got paid I would ditch my dayjob and do kubuntu 100% :)
[10:46] <Jucato> I don't mind not being paid at this point in time yet :)
[10:46] <Jucato> but maybe next month...
[10:49] <Jucato> hm.. wonder where Hobbsee is... it's not like her not to be here for a whole day..
[10:52] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Were you looking for a MB?
[10:52] <Jucato> MB?
[10:52] <DaSkreech> Motherboard
[10:53] <Jucato> nope
[10:53] <DaSkreech> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=869
[10:53] <Jucato> I'm looking for money... anyone has some to spare?
[11:04] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nope. I heard rumors about sabdfl making some comments about OO.o though
[11:04] <Jucato> (sorry, thought it might be OT for #k)
[11:04] <DaSkreech> Right sorry
[11:04] <DaSkreech>  sleepy
[11:05] <Jucato> hehe better sleep, for a few minutes
[11:05] <DaSkreech> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/10/03/openoffice-org-community-conflict-leads-to-fragmentation
[11:05] <Jucato> power naps
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Maybe koffice will get a sugar daddy :)
[11:05] <DaSkreech> Naw I'll probably jsut skip work tomorrow
[11:05] <Jucato> boo :P
[11:05] <Jucato> nah I dont' think sabdfl's going to use a KDE solution
[11:06] <DaSkreech> I don't care about sabdfl
[11:06] <DaSkreech> And he probably uses it already
[11:06] <DaSkreech>  his Main comp is a Kubuntu one i think
[11:06] <DaSkreech> though his laptop is ubuntu and he does travel a lot
[11:06] <Jucato> sabdfl's the only viable sugar daddy for Kubuntu :)
[11:06] <Jucato> he rarely uses his desktop afaik
[11:06] <Jucato> so saying that he has Kubuntu there isn't really... much :)
[11:06] <Jucato> sorry
[11:06] <DaSkreech> In anycase Koffice is good solution but it a) doesn't run on Windows and b) gets no corporate support
[11:07] <DaSkreech> KDE4 takes care of a)
[11:07] <DaSkreech> Hopefully a fragmented OO.o will raise the Koffice visibilty
[11:07] <Jucato> there's a c)
[11:08] <Jucato> but no, I don't glory in the failure of OO.o... it's failure is going to scar FOSS, whether you like OO.o or not
[11:08] <Jucato> (the c) is MS Office format support)
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Which can be helped by b
[11:08] <DaSkreech> And would be a main focus of b I think
[11:08] <Jucato> depends though...
[11:08] <Jucato> he who codes decides.. and they who code decided not :)
[11:09] <DaSkreech> I don't glory in the failure of something that visible either but I've been saying that Oo.o needs to stop having money put in it's lap a long time ago
[11:09] <DaSkreech> It's waht saved Mozilla
[11:09] <DaSkreech>  It's what will save Oo.o
[11:09] <DaSkreech> It's not a community project by any stretch
[11:10] <Jucato> I think there's a similar danger w/ ODF and IBM iirc
[11:10] <DaSkreech> Then again I said Java would be better by being open source but probably didn'y need it so what do I know
[11:10] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Hmm? what danger?
[11:11] <Jucato> iirc, IBM has a sort of promise not to enforce its patents on ODF as long as it is part of the group that works on it
[11:11] <Jucato> my memory's a bit sketchy on that one
[11:11] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah
[11:11] <DaSkreech> It sold those to ODSL so that should be ok
[11:12] <Jucato> dangnabit!! :(
[11:12] <Jucato> sorry different issue
[11:13] <DaSkreech> naw don't worry about it
[11:14] <DaSkreech>  every few months i have to go over all the tech news and resort things out in my head
[11:14] <Jucato> Windows seems to have nuked my 2nd usb card reader
[11:14] <DaSkreech>  like Smolt
[11:14] <Jucato> no really... different issue :)
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Ah
[11:16] <DaSkreech> In any case Koffice does at least three thigns better than OO.o does now so hopefully someone will start pointing at it as something to look into
[11:17] <DaSkreech> rather than the Gnome office
[11:17] <Jucato> GO only beats it in the cross-platform department
[11:17] <Jucato> tbh, KOffice is one of the very *very* and I mean very few KDE apps I really want ported to other platforms
[11:17] <DaSkreech> No GO is pretty neat but it's not unified by any means
[11:17] <DaSkreech> OO.o killed it dead
[11:18] <Jucato> last time I tried Abiword (last year?), it couldn't open ODT
[11:18] <DaSkreech> Abiword is pretty agile they'll get it in
[11:18] <Jucato> and pretty small.... that's an advantage.
[11:18] <DaSkreech> but Abiword getting ODT doesn't mean that Gnumeric will have ODC
[11:18] <Jucato> but there are only really 3 apps in GO...
[11:18] <DaSkreech> They are neat apps but a mess as a suite
[11:19] <DaSkreech> Yeah there were more but as I said OO.o came about
[11:19] <Jucato> it's not even a suite afaik... it's just 3 apps combined because of the "office" tag
[11:19] <Jucato> http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/ only three :)
[11:19] <Jucato> no presentation software either :)
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Yeah As I said
[11:20] <DaSkreech> OO.o is a GO killer
[11:20] <Jucato> just wanted to make you repeat it :)
[11:20] <Jucato> for the 3rd time
[11:20] <Tm_T> KOffice <3
[11:20] <Jucato> KOffice <3 <3 <3 >3 :P
[11:21] <DaSkreech> they were getting things together to build a suite and climbed over the top of the hill to crescendo music and a giant Code base with a club and one eye standing in the Shadow of the Sun
[11:21] <DaSkreech> (fine fine pun intended)
[11:23] <DaSkreech> But having tried to make headway into OO.o I have to say they are very stubborn about letting people get into it
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Run By FSF
[11:24] <Jucato> not necessarily.. just !Sun
[11:25] <Jucato> I just really wish KOffice would get better support for MS Office formats (no, RTF doesn't count)...
[11:25] <DaSkreech> I've given up use of them mostly so I'm ok
[11:26] <DaSkreech> Well
[11:26] <DaSkreech> bedtime
[11:26] <Jucato> you have... I have too... but the other people around me haven't
[01:14] <_StefanS_> seems like that Gdebi frontend doesn't really handle multiple selected *deb files.....
[01:14] <_StefanS_> Riddell:  would be nice if it did?+
[01:14] <_StefanS_> but I guess thats a feature ;)
[01:14] <_StefanS_> so ....
[01:14] <Riddell> sounds like it
[01:14] <Riddell> mhb is the man to ask
[01:15] <_StefanS_> mhb: you there?
[01:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: to push it?
[01:17] <Riddell> he wrote gdebi-kde
[01:40] <Jucato> bug 133810 seems to be still in effect...
[01:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133810 in kde-guidance "package guidance-backends 0.8.0svn20070727-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/guidance/vesamodes', which is also in package kde-guidance" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133810
[01:42] <Riddell> if that's the only overlapping file problem on a dist-upgrade from feisty I'll be surprised :)
[01:42] <Jucato> hehe
[01:43] <Jucato> that's so far the only one stopping me. completely fresh feisty install upgrading to gutsy
[01:43] <Jucato> krazy aren't I? :)
[01:44] <Riddell> well, easily fixed
[01:44] <Riddell> Jucato: you're testing using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:45] <Jucato> I first ran adept_manager --version-upgrade. but sometime during my peaceful slumber it seems to have crashed without leaving a clue whatsoever
[01:45] <Jucato> tried to continue through adept_updater, which fails because of that bug
[01:45] <Jucato> so had to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends
[01:46] <Riddell> Jucato: can you look at the end of the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade for a backtrace?
[01:46] <Jucato> ok gonna check
[01:46] <Jucato> which file? apt.log, main.log or man_pre_req.log?
[01:47] <Riddell> all of them
[01:49] <Jucato> hm ok... going to try to put them up somewhere
[01:50] <Jucato> grr!! i hate it when I boot the laptop and forget to push the wireless button :(
[01:56] <Jucato> Riddell: http://jucato.org/stuff/apt.log and http://jucato.org/stuff/main.log and http://jucato.org/stuff/main_pre_req.log
[02:07] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.8... why does KDE always catch us offguard? :(
[02:07] <ScottK> Jucato: IIRC Riddell new it was coming and decided not to bother so late in the cycle.
[02:08] <Jucato> ScottK: yeah. it was kinda rhetorical in a way :)
[02:08] <ScottK> OK.
[02:09] <ScottK> Jucato: A more whimsical answer is so that Riddell won't be bored after the Gutsy release (he can do Gutsy 3.5.8 packages).
[02:09] <Riddell> it's only happened once before
[02:09] <Riddell> and it's still unclear if it can get in or no
[02:09] <ScottK> Riddell: If you need testing, please let me know.
[02:09] <Riddell> aby kontact users?
[02:09] <Riddell> Lure!
[02:10] <Lure> hi Riddell
[02:10] <Lure> just back from week of sailing
[02:10] <Jucato> hi Lure! :)
[02:10] <Jucato> oooh sailing :)
[02:10] <Lure> hi Jucato
[02:10] <Riddell> Lure: I uploaded what was in your PPA, dunno if that was a good idea or no
[02:11] <Riddell> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/150536 just arrived
[02:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 150536 in kdepim "status setting isn't saved" [Undecided,New]
[02:11] <Lure> Riddell: it looked good for me, but I tested it only for half a dat before I left
[02:12] <Jucato> Lure: you're our kdepim guy right? :)
[02:12] <Lure> Riddell: can confirm that bug, but I am not sure this is just last version
[02:12] <Lure> Jucato: just by accident ;-)
[02:12] <Jucato> I have another one for you :)
[02:12] <Jucato> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/149321
[02:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 149321 in kdepim "[Gutsy]  Basket notes is no longer embedded in kontact!" [Low,Triaged]
[02:13] <Riddell> Jucato: that was removed because it caused a crash
[02:13] <Lure> Jucato: I just jumped on it when enterprise was completelly useless for my day job ;-)
[02:13] <Jucato> Riddell: ah I see. so it's going to be permanent?
[02:13] <Riddell> until the crash gets fixed
[02:13] <Jucato> ah ok. thanks :)
[02:13] <Lure> Riddell: it may just need rebuild, which Hobbsee already requested
[02:14] <Lure> Riddell: they have changed some API/structures, but did not bump ABI
[02:14] <ScottK> Yummy.
[02:15] <Lure> nop, rebuild is not enouh
[02:15] <Lure> enough even
[02:25] <Riddell> 13:21 < ThomasZ> Riddell: my main problem seems to still be present;  using kmail filters to move a mail from the inbox to another folder (using courier or scalix dimap) will incorrectly keep that email there.  Which has the effect that on each sync I get each and every mail again.
[02:26] <Riddell> sigh
[02:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 144490 in python-kde3 "autopkgtest gutsy python-kde3: erroneous package!" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144490
[02:33] <Riddell> curious indeed
[02:35] <ScottK> Riddell: If you (or anyone else) have a hint about what's wrong, I might take a shot at fixing whatever it is....
[02:35] <Riddell> I've no idea at all
[02:35] <Riddell> and since it's not an actual problem, I wouldn't worry
[02:36] <Riddell> bug 146216 is more of an issue
[02:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 146216 in knetworkconf "kde network administration doesn't disable interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/146216
[02:49] <jpatrick> hi Hobbsee
[02:49] <Hobbsee> jpatrick!
[02:50] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: got me MOTU back :)
[02:50] <Hobbsee> yay!
[02:52] <jpatrick> now - back to school
[02:56] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!!!
[02:56] <Jucato> dang missed jpatrick...
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Jucato!
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Riddell: how's 3.5.8 going?
[02:57] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you weren't on for  24 hours! kinda worried :)
[02:57] <Hobbsee> Jucato: hm, yeah, guess i wasnt.   28, in fact.
[02:57] <Jucato> hehe :)
[02:57] <Hobbsee> oh, and smashed my car in the process.
[02:58] <Jucato> wth!?! :(
[02:58] <Hobbsee> so yeah, kinda eventful!
[02:58] <Hobbsee> his car has more damage :P
[02:59] <Jucato> who's paying? :)
[03:00] <Hobbsee> um, dunno yet
[03:00] <Riddell> Hobbsee: coolo is still tagging it
[03:00] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ah
[03:01] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i smashed into him, but he really shouldnt have been going that way.  so...unsure.
[03:01] <Jucato> oh... :/
[03:17] <Lure> Riddell: is ThomasZ message recent? I though it is scalix specific and that it was worked on in #kontact
[03:21] <Riddell> Lure: yes, today
[03:21] <Riddell> Lure: he is using scalix
[03:21] <Jucato> Riddell: thanks for the very quick fix to that guidance bug :)
[03:21] <Lure> Riddell: I do not have that problem (dimap on MS exchange) and we have other testers on imap
[03:50] <bddebian> Heya
[03:51] <manchicken> Howdy.
[03:51] <bddebian> Hi manchicken
[03:51] <manchicken> My system76 is sick :(
[03:51] <manchicken> It's out for warranty repair.  Backlight stopped coming on.
[03:51] <Jucato> hi bddebian, manchicken!
[03:51] <Riddell> Lure: so stick with the 20070926 version for gutsy you think?
[03:53] <Lure> Riddell: yes, there are some fixes beyond that in svn though
[03:53] <Lure> Riddell: 4 commits, all fixes for kolab issues
[03:54] <Riddell> Lure: got any time to add those as patches today?
[03:54] <Lure> Riddell: later tonight I could look into it
[03:55] <Lure> Riddell: so it would be 26 + svn patches (instead of new snapshot tarball), right?
[03:55] <Riddell> yeah, no new .orig, just put them in debian/patches
[03:55] <Lure> ScottK: which feisty fixes?
[03:56] <ScottK> The ones Riddell decided not to upload after things went kind of sideways.  I don't recall the details.  It's just a vague blur of pain.
[03:57] <bddebian> Hi Jucato
[03:58] <ScottK> Yeah.  Sounds about right.
[04:33] <StFS> Riddell: thanks for your "super fast" response to my email (the qt4 bug on xinerama)... so do I understand this correctly... can we expect a fix before gutsy is out (or somehow as a part of a bugfix update on gutsy)?
[04:34] <Riddell> StFS: yes, it should be compiling now, let me know when 4.3.2-0ubuntu3 appears for you to test
[04:34] <StFS> Riddell: actually I'm still on feisty :-/
[04:36] <StFS> but plan to upgrade when gutsy is released... but some of the guys that commented are using gutsy and I can contact them and ask them to test this for you... would you want them to report back to the bug report (as a comment) or here?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> bug comment tends to be easier
[04:38] <StFS> yup... I'll request that they keep an eye out for this and test it ASAP
[04:38] <StFS> thanks again for the quick response
[04:44] <StFS> Riddell: just one last question... what is the policy with bugs like these for older releases like feisty? Would this not warrant an update (at least in some repository)? It's not a big deal for me at all since I plan to upgrade to gutsy very soon... I'm just curious.
[04:48] <Riddell> StFS: it could be updated in feisty, but it's hassle and takes time
[04:49] <StFS> yeah... probably not worth it... very few apps that use it
[06:01] <fdoving> yay, opensuse have a nice kdm theme.
[06:02] <fdoving> even with the userlist.
[06:02] <DaSkreech> They are generally pretty good about polish
[06:02] <fdoving> too bad they are .rpm
[06:03] <Hobbsee> nick their polish, add it to ours.
[06:05] <fdoving> too opensuse-ish.
[06:05] <fdoving> it's green with branding.
[06:06] <Hobbsee> and then change it
[06:07] <ScottK> green/blue and opensuse/Kubuntu and off to the races ...
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee
[06:33] <Hobbsee> hiya
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Would it make sense to have a user suggestion wiki page for kubuntu?
[06:34] <ScottK> DaSkreech: Only if someone is going to look at it and care.
[06:35] <DaSkreech> once a release cycle :)
[06:35] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: where i go deleting them every few release cycles?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> something like that :)
[06:36] <ScottK> cycles/days, sure.
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Guess it would make more sense once we start shipping KDE4
[06:37] <Hobbsee> guess it would make sense when we actually care about user feedback.
[06:38] <ScottK> Hobbsee: +1
[06:38] <Hobbsee> seeing as we dont particularly now - especially feature requests, because we dont have the resources to do them.
[06:40] <Jucato> Hobbsee: we don't (yet)?
[06:40] <Jucato> ah didn't read the last sentence
[06:40] <Jucato> I think DaSkreech is volunteering for the job
[06:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: we do somewhat - but the poeple wanting to implement features tend to want to do whatever they like
[06:41] <Hobbsee> yes, DaSkreech can fix it all
[06:41] <Jucato> hm.. brb...
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Shazam!
[06:45] <DaSkreech> I wonder if elicitation would help
[06:45] <DaSkreech> What happened to the bounties program?
[06:45] <ScottK> Help what?  Help us care about what the users want?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> wb Jucato
[06:57] <Jucato> thanks
[07:00] <Jucato> hm.. anyway.. good night :)
[07:43] <DaSkreech> does KDPF have a presenatation mode?
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Never mind :) Ctrl+Shift+P
[08:49] <nixternal> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3016
[08:49] <nixternal> pretty nice results there
[08:52] <jpatrick> tied with suse..
[08:52] <mhb> nixternal: 39 votes ... not a reliable amount of people, but it's nice :o)
[08:52] <jpatrick> mhb: 41 here :)
[08:54] <DaSkreech> When was the last time that Knoppix released?
[08:54] <manchicken> It's only a matter of time before someone starts cheating :)
[08:55] <nixternal> ScottK: sorry, that was me :p
[08:56] <ScottK> Actually I started with Xandros, so I shouldn't knock it so much, but it's not what it used to be (even for newbies).
[08:57] <nixternal> I need to start working on updating my blog..I am going to make a change from the general community junk to more Kubuntu and KDE stuff only...so that means, I need to revamp my theme and start pimping KDE and Kubuntu much harder than I have
[08:57] <nixternal> so, for a start, in order to rid myself of anything brown, I have started using<EMAIL_ADDRESS>full-time, so change that in your address books
[08:58] <nixternal> ouch, their current KDE is foogly
[08:59] <nixternal> dude, I had to use it at UIC this weekend, and their KPDF doesn't do presentation mode
[08:59] <ScottK> For a second I thought "rid myself of anything brown" was a euphamism (or however you spell that word) for something I didn't want to know anything about.
[08:59] <nixternal> hahahaha
[08:59] <nixternal> well, people see my @ubuntu.com email address, they start asking why gnome does this or that, and it is hard being polite 99% of the time
[08:59] <manchicken> Heh
[09:01] <nixternal> its funny, these same people who complain about it, always rip on KDE....and what I have been noticing, especially this weekend, all KDE rips weren't even researched before they started
[09:02] <nixternal> and I will be damned, everyone at UIC was freakin' usin' Gentoo
[09:03] <nixternal> so I started out my talk with "how many of you hear have ripped out the back seat of your honda for 5 extra horsepower? how many have more than 15 stickers that are related to top quality racing parts, which aren't in use with your car?" :D
[09:03] <nixternal> Samir didn't say anything...pwnd
[09:06] <DaSkreech> nixternal: are you saying that Gnome rips are researched?
[09:06] <nixternal> heh, at least valid :)
[09:06] <nixternal> like the whole "kde is to cartoony for me"
[09:07] <DaSkreech> http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/NOT_KARTOONY.jpg
[09:07] <nixternal> then I showed them my desktop, and nobody said it was cartoony, but the same people who call it cartoon are the same ones with wobbly windows
[09:07] <DaSkreech> sorry what were you saying?
[09:07] <nixternal> :)
[09:09] <ScottK> Note to outside observers: nixternal lives in Chicago and in Chicago punching only in the stomach counts as being nice and polite.
[09:09] <manchicken> No, he's from the suburbs.
[09:09] <ScottK> Close enough.
[09:09] <manchicken> No, because in the suburbs they're used to coming in, taking what they want, and then leaving :)
[09:10] <DaSkreech> Knock the Windy outta ya City?
[09:10] <manchicken> Taking the benefits without dealing with the problems :)
[09:10] <manchicken> So he'll be nice and polite while punching you in the stomach.
[09:11] <manchicken> But then he'll bugger off and refuse to help when you start coughing up blood :)
[09:13] <nixternal> ya, I moved out of the city into the burbs to get away from traffic...to bad it didn't work
[09:13] <manchicken> Nope.
[09:13] <nixternal> actually, I moved out of DC to the Chicago burbs :)
[09:14] <manchicken> You didn't get away from the traffic, you just got away from where they try to do something about the traffic :)
[09:14] <nixternal> I will have to say though, it was a quick 30 minute drive to UIC on Saturday leaving at 9:30am...that I have never done before unless it was at 2am
[09:20] <Lure_> Riddell: kdepim with fixes from svn: http://muse.19inch.net/~lure/gutsy/kdepim.debdiff
[09:21] <Riddell> rocking
[09:21] <Lure_> Riddell: test packages also in my ppa (source there has one :wq file too many ;-))
[09:21] <Lure_> Riddell: works ok for me, the drag crash is must have
[09:23] <Riddell> great, thanks
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Riddell: I've started booting an old kernel to get around freezes
[09:32] <jpatrick> Riddell: sent you a kubuntu.org patch
[10:28] <DaSkreech> Hi hunger
[10:28] <hunger> Ho there.
[10:28] <ScottK> Hey there?
[10:29] <DaSkreech> No no ho here


[21:03] <ikey> o/ me4oslav
[21:04] <me4oslav> Ikey told me to reply to him ... reason: TBD :D
[21:04] <me4oslav> ikey *
[21:05] <ikey> =P


[01:45] <dgroos> I thought it was just some quirk of search I did but I check it again (download edubuntu) and get to this page: http://www.edubuntu.com/Download
[01:47] <dgroos> Under the heading for "Installation" it talks about Edubuntu 9.04 and mentions the educational addon .iso file--that's why kanhiya was asking for it.
[01:48] <dgroos> highvoltage: are you conscious?  It must be about 3:30 AM for you?
[01:48] <dgroos> Anyone else that can fix that page?
[04:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> i imagine it can wait until he wakes up again :)
[05:09] <dgroos> I guess... ;)
[06:09] <Fudge> is ri-li a train game?
[06:16] <Fudge> anyone got ri-li installed, cant find instructions for keyboard commands
[06:25] <Fudge> no on ewilling to help then?
[07:54] <rmcgougan> I am considering setting up a 64bit version of Edubuntu LTSP 10.04 how have people found setting up this server?
[19:42] <Ahmuck-Sr> morning everybody
[20:19] <alkisg> Hi
[20:29] <Ahmuck-Jr> i've noticed mails on the list about ltsp setup, etc.
[21:53] <dgroos> Hi Ahmuck-Sr and alkisg--good day, Father's Day here in the US.
[21:53] <dgroos> *-Jr


[15:59] <kickinz1> o/
[16:00] <smoser> o/
[16:00] <smoser> hello and welcome
[16:00] <arges> o/
[16:00] <thedac> o/
[16:00] <smoser> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 28 16:00:40 2015 UTC.  The chair is smoser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:00] <smoser> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:01] <smoser> i was to check with odd_bloke on bug 1461242
[16:01] <smoser> and did. wily is fix-released.
[16:01] <smoser> no other action items
[16:01] <matsubara> o/
[16:01] <smoser> #topic Wily Development
[16:02] <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseSchedule
[16:02] <smoser> we're moving into alpha2 time frame. then follows feature freeze in ~ 3 weeks
[16:02] <smoser> so be ready for that.
[16:02] <smoser> anything else here?
[16:02] <smoser> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:03] <smoser> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:04] <smoser> all of thecloud-init ones are fixed in wily. same with curtin
[16:04] <smoser> hm.. heat too
[16:04] <smoser> that list looks almost out of date
[16:04] <smoser> oh joy. it is
[16:05] <smoser>  " Thursday, 09. July 2015 03:47 UTC"
[16:05] <smoser> am i re-treading known things here?
[16:05] <smoser> i've raised that just now in #ubuntu-devel
[16:06] <smoser> i'll follow up a bit on it.
[16:06] <smoser> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:07] <smoser> caribou previously sent regrets on attendence
[16:07] <smoser> does anyone have anything here they're intersted in talkin about ?
[16:07] <smoser> other wise, we move on to our good friend matsubara
[16:07] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)
[16:07] <smoser> matsubara, you have anything ?
[16:07] <matsubara> smoser, hi, nothing new to report.
[16:07] <smoser> or anyone have anything for mr matsubara
[16:07] <smoser> seeing none..
[16:07] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:07] <smb> Nothing to report here.
[16:07] <smoser> a whole team of kernel engineers have nothing to report
[16:08] <arges> Everything is awesome.
[16:08] <smoser> 4.0  is *that* fabulous
[16:08] <smoser> $ uname -r
[16:08] <smoser> 4.1.0-2-generic
[16:08] <smoser> you're all jealous
[16:08] <smoser> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:09] <smoser> well, not call for papers... but a shameless call for vote
[16:09] <smoser> votes.
[16:09] <smoser>  http://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/07/27/voting-begins-for-openstack-tokyo-talks/
[16:09] <smoser> those are the Ubuntu / Canonical submitted talks for openstack summit.
[16:09] <smoser> take a gander, if something seems interesting, give it a vote.
[16:09] <smoser> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:10] <smoser> the Canonical members of the Ubuntu Server team will be sprinting next week
[16:10] <smoser> so i think we should probably suspend the meeting for next week
[16:10] <rbasak> +1 to postpone meeting
[16:10] <rbasak> Good thinking, thanks.
[16:10] <smoser> and if you have anything you think should be looked at, please feel free to bother rbasak or smoser.
[16:10] <smoser> smoser will just make sure that rbasak does it :)
[16:11] <rbasak> :-/
[16:11] <smoser> #topic Open Discussion
[16:11] <smoser> anything here ?
[16:11] <smoser> ok. then
[16:11] <smoser> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:12] <smoser> next meeting will be 2 weeks from today at 16:00 UTC
[16:13] <smoser> Tue Aug 11 16:00:00 UTC 2015
[16:13] <smoser> thanks all
[16:13] <smoser> #endmeeting
[16:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 28 16:13:14 2015 UTC.
[16:13] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-07-28-16.00.moin.txt
[16:13] <kickinz1> thanks smoser
[16:13] <rbasak> Thanks smoser!
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 28 17:00:11 2015 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Wily
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <chiluk> o/
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <arges> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <smb> o/
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Wily Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Status for the main kernels, until today:
[17:01] <jsalisbury>   *     Precise - Kernel Prep
[17:01] <jsalisbury>   *      Trusty - Kernel Prep
[17:01] <jsalisbury>   *  lts-Utopic - Kernel Prep
[17:01] <jsalisbury>   *      Vivid  - Kernel Prep
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:01] <jsalisbury>   * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:01] <jsalisbury> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:01] <jsalisbury>   * http://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/sru-report.html
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Schedule:
[17:01] <jsalisbury>
[17:01] <jsalisbury> cycle: 26-Jul through 15-Aug
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [17:01] <jsalisbury>          24-Jul   Last day for kernel commits for this cycle
[17:01] <jsalisbury> 26-Jul - 01-Aug   Kernel prep week.
[17:01] <jsalisbury> 02-Aug - 08-Aug   Bug verification & Regression testing.
[17:01] <jsalisbury> 09-Aug - 15-Aug   Regression testing & Release to -updates.
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's
[17:02] <jsalisbury> The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-cves.html
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Trusty/Utopic/Vivid (bjf)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:04] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury   :-)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:04] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 28 17:04:06 2015 UTC.
[17:04] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-07-28-17.00.moin.txt
[17:04] <smb> thanks jsalisbury