[00:00] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: console
[00:00] <zsquareplusc> persona_khanu: then #  sudo ls /media/disk/
[00:00] <elgreco> bjmuggs,  need to find a ppc kernel, not sure if ubuntu has any, should be a quick search on google though
[00:00] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: right now on the livecd however i'm using nautlius
[00:00] <oxiii> phix thank you for trying, anyway
[00:00] <phix> oxiii: my plesure
[00:01] <zsquareplusc> persona_khanu: to get a "root" nautilus you can use alt+f2 -> "gksu nautlius"  but don't make that a regular habit :-)
[00:01] <bjmuggs> elgrco: i found one but when i boot it it can;t seem to install it
[00:01] <phix> oxiii: and thank LjL for unbanning me so I could attempt to assist you, let me know how you go with it and if you have any other ubuntu questions let me know also :P
[00:01] <raylu> _chris___: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[00:01] <_chris___> raylu i mount /dev/hdh1 and it does nothing
[00:02] <elgreco> bjmuggs, sorry, not too familiar with booting cd's on a ppc machine
[00:02] <outboard> what is the easy way of finding out what my local ip address is on the lan  ?
[00:02] <raylu> _chris___: and also, the output of just "mount"
[00:02] <oxiii> ok thanks
[00:02] <raylu> outboard: ifconfig
[00:02] <outboard> thanks
[00:03] <zsquareplusc> bjmuggs: check ports.ubuntu.com pcc repos are there. there should also be an intstaller hidden somewhere
[00:03] <_chris___> raylu mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdh1 is already mounted on /mnt/hdh1
[00:03] <_chris___> mount failed
[00:03] <uber_noober> hey guys, guick question: how can I install Ubuntu GRUB on root partition?
[00:03] <Guest18045> hmm all my hotkeys are messed up now :(
[00:03] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: still not able to get there, 'gksu nautlius' didn't seem to have any effect
[00:03] <raylu> _chris___: ...
[00:03] <ikonia> !grub > uber_noober
[00:03] <jasminpc> im lookin for vmware users
[00:03] <outboard> is there an easy way of binding to a particular address ?
[00:03] <jasminpc> !!!!!!!
[00:03] <zsquareplusc> persona_khanu: ok, if you try that in a terminal, do you get an error? maybe its gksudo
[00:03] <bjmuggs> thanks
[00:04] <_chris___> raylu it is not there in the gui
[00:04] <nat2610> how can I know what file will be install and where with apt-get  ?
[00:04] <jasminpc> im looking for vmware users
[00:04] <jasminpc> anybody there
[00:04] <elgreco> nope
[00:04] <_chris___> raylu it identifies itself as volume 98.0
[00:04] <jasminpc> help mee
[00:04] <elgreco> we are all on lunch
[00:05] <rww> jasminpc: /join #vmware
[00:05] <ikonia> jasminpc: lots in #vmware
[00:05] <jasminpc> thanks
[00:05] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: nice, the command line worked, i ended up just typing 'sudo su' heh
[00:05] <raylu> _chris___: are you going to give me that output or not?
[00:05] <outboard>  raylu is there an easy way of binding to a particular address ?
[00:05] <zsquareplusc> persona_khanu: that's "sudo -i" ;-)
[00:05] <uber_noober> sorry, i should've explained: i'm trying to multiboot and i have installed grub on its own partition. trying to chainload. should i install ubuntu via the alternate install cd?
[00:05] <rww> persona_khanu: in the future, consider "sudo -i" instead of "sudo su" ;)
[00:05] <raylu> outboard: not familiar with that, sorry
[00:06] <outboard> cool
[00:06] <outboard> i'll do some research
[00:06] <nicklas_> hello, what is the difference between eeebuntu and ubuntu eee ?
[00:06] <_chris___> raylu here is the output again A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had
[00:06] <linuxman410> i had to use alternate install cd to install ony my compaq only way it would work
[00:06] <eseven73> nat2610: if you start synaptic package manager, click on "Status" button on the lower left, youll see "Installed" click that
[00:06] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: heh, i'll fix that, also 'gksudo nautilus' works, only one i ;)
[00:06] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: thanks
[00:06] <persona_khanu> rww: thanks
[00:07] <uber_noober> linuxman410: was that for me?
[00:07] <eseven73> nat also a package called 'Aptoncd' shows you all the packages you have installed, and you can then make an image file from it too
[00:07] <linuxman410> has anyone else tried to make a lean install of ubuntu the article on how to do it is on distrowatch
[00:07] <rww> nicklas_: they're two different non-Ubuntu distributions based on Ubuntu, neither of which we can provide support for here. Try asking on the forums for each distro.
[00:07] <Saga_> nicklas_: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=32606
[00:08] <elgreco> linuxman410, if you want a lean ubuntu, just go with gentoo or something like that
[00:08] <Saga_> nicklas_: You should download both.
[00:08] <Saga_> Test them both out.
[00:08] <raylu> _chris___: ...
[00:08] <Saga_> And see which you like the most.
[00:08] <raylu> _chris___: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[00:08] <raylu> _chris___: and also, the output of just "mount"
[00:09] <linuxman410> i did a lean install with alternative cd it boots in seconds flat
[00:09] <hypnus9> linuxman40: what is a lean install?
[00:09] <raylu> _chris___: i think this is the third time now
[00:09] <hypnus9> Pardon my noobness
[00:09] <linuxman410> just installing the main stuff u use
[00:09] <eseven73> !minimal
[00:09] <_chris___> raylu, Disk /dev/hde: 13.6 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes
[00:09] <_chris___> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1655 cylinders
[00:09] <_chris___> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[00:09] <_chris___> Disk identifier: 0x0003f3de
[00:09] <_chris___>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:09] <FloodBot2> _chris___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <_chris___> Disk /dev/hdh: 203.9 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>56 bytes
[00:09] <hypnus9> Oh ok. THNX
[00:09] <eseven73> paste much?
[00:10] <persona_khanu> thanks all, night!
[00:10] <_chris___> raylu /dev/hde1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[00:10] <_chris___> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[00:10] <_chris___> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[00:10] <_chris___> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[00:10] <_chris___> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[00:10] <_chris___> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[00:10] <FloodBot2> _chris___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <uber_noober> is there an option to install grub on root partition for chainloading purposes? I didn't see one when I tried installing ubuntu
[00:10] <kitche> uber_noober: using the alternate cd yes and by hand yes
[00:10] <coolyum> what happened to the port for bsd-airtools
[00:10] <temppy> Samba isnt working for me, on Intrepid.  It used to work on Hardy.  Any suggestions?
[00:11] <vaxius> uber_noober: yes, manual install, though
[00:11] <coolyum> i want dstumbler but i guess freebsd removed it from the ports tree
[00:11] <vaxius> !grub | uber_noober
[00:11] <nicklas_> Saga_: i have read it now, think im gonna stick with my installed eeebuntu 2.0, based on ubuntu 8.10 ... it has a better look, and the awm by default
[00:11] <uber_noober> vaxius:  i'm trying to multiboot and i have installed grub on its own partition. trying to chainload. should i install ubuntu via the alternate install cd?
[00:12] <uber_noober> will that give me an option to select where grub is placed?
[00:12] <_chris___> raylu, did u get all of the info u needed?
[00:12] <vaxius> uber_noober: you could just use the regular desktop cd, and then reinstall grub manually afterwards; i'm not aware of an option during install
[00:13] <coolyum> ne one have problems with wireless ex wlan0:avahi taking place of wlan0
[00:13] <uber_noober> coolyum: i did
[00:13] <uber_noober> it was a pain to get ridd off
[00:14] <raylu> _chris___: ...you got kicked. like the bot and i said, use pastebin
[00:14] <hypnus9> Uber_noober: doesn't grub just install to the root partition by default on install?
[00:14] <CarlFK> would runing apt-proxy cause "untrusted versions of the following packages... xserver-xorg" (and 100 or so more.. proably all of them)
[00:14] <JCDG> hello, has someone fully implemented SElinux on Intrepid??
[00:14] <vaxius> hypnus9: no, it installs to mbr by default
[00:14] <coolyum> i got ubuntu 8.04 on one of my old laptops and it does it everytime i restart
[00:14] <Dom> Hi guys, just a quick question hw long does ubuntu take to load on average and on its first ever start up?
[00:15] <hypnus9> Oh ok. I have my /boot file on a separate partition right now.
[00:15] <uber_noober> hypnus9: yes, but I already have grubs on its own partition sda1, so I'm trying to chainload the multi os-es, and i don't want ubuntu installing a new grub on the mbr
[00:15] <l7> Dom: about 2-3 minutes, depending your system
[00:15] <vaxius> Dom: depends on your system, but mine is about 30 seconds i think
[00:15] <hypnus9> uber_noober:ok
[00:15] <CarlFK> Dom does that include the "indexting" thing?
[00:15] <_chris___> raylu, how do i use pastebin? i dont see that on  y screen
[00:16] <vaxius> l7: 2-3 MINUTES?  wow, that's a long time
[00:16] <hypnus9> uber_noober: have you just tried editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[00:16] <Dom> Thanks, that means i have a problem then, mine is hanging when it begins loading scsi devices
[00:16] <l7> vaxius: well maybe 1-2.  i've got a rather slow drive
[00:16] <coolyum> did u run a script to fix prevent wlan0:avahi from starting at boot or did u blacklist the driver
[00:16] <uber_noober> see that's not the problem
[00:17] <uber_noober> hypnus9: that's not my problem, i already have dbian and slackware running, but i tried isntalling ubuntu and it's not giving me an option to install grub on its own root partition
[00:17] <uber_noober> coolyum: do u use ndiswrapper?
[00:18] <raylu> !pastebin | _chris___
[00:18] <zsquareplusc> uber_noober: let it do it and then reinstall your own grub with your own menu.lst. it's probably the fastest way
[00:18] <_chris___> raylu, ubottu thanks ill post the stuff there
[00:18] <coolyum> no my driver is native (ralink chip) rum4 driver
[00:19] <uber_noober> yeah, but do u connect via the network manager?
[00:19] <hypnus9> uber_noober: are you trying to make more than 4 primary partitions on /dev/sda?
[00:20] <uber_noober> hypnus9: ???
[00:20] <uber_noober> i have 4 logical and the rest extended
[00:20] <hypnus9> Oh ok.
[00:21] <Sephii1> what's the channel for mint
[00:21] <zsquareplusc> l7: you might want to look at the profile option http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263
[00:21] <_chris___> raylu, ok i pasted. what happens next?
[00:21] <kristian_> raylu : you should "/set hilight_nick_matches off" if your going to use "/hilight word". where word = nick! fyi! or there can be a conflict apparently!
[00:21] <eseven73> !mintlinux
[00:21] <raylu> _chris___: give me the url
[00:22] <_chris___> raylu http://paste.ubuntu.com/85855/
[00:22] <raylu> kristian_: conflict?
[00:22] <Sephii1> mint linux tends to freeze in normal mode, and in compatibility mode I'm stuck in some low resolution and can't see whole windows
[00:22] <Sephii1> trying to install from CD
[00:22] <raylu> kristian_: hilight_nick_matches tries to make my act bar yellow, hilight tries to make it red. hilight wins :D
[00:22] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to partition a 160GB HDD correctly to install maximum no. of packages
[00:22] <Sephii1> using USB right now
[00:22] <zsquareplusc> !mint > Sephii1
[00:22] <linuxman410> how long does it usually take ubuntu to boot to desktop
[00:23] <robm06> Anyone have any experience with VirtualBox?
[00:23] <raylu> _chris___: if it's already mounted, can't you access the files in /mnt/hd*?
[00:23] <uber_noober> i guess i'll check back later - hypnos9 thanks
[00:23] <eseven73> ah zsquareplusc thanks i was trying to recall what command was for Mint, ty
[00:23] <hypnus9> No prob, uber_noober
[00:23] <kitche> linuxman410: depends on the hardware
[00:23] <_chris___> raylu, it does not appear to be mounted
[00:23] <Sephii1> !mintsupport
[00:23] <kristian_> raylu : hilight ftw! ;-) anyways i was told to turn hilight_nick_matches off, if i was going to use hilight for my nick. according to #irssi people! just thought i'd let you know. :-)
[00:24] <raylu> _chris___: what does that mean?
[00:25] <linuxman410> i have a p4 2.53 and built in video intel and 40n gig drive and 768 megs of ddr 400 ram and it takes 1 minute and 2 seconds is that about right
[00:25] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to partition a 160GB HDD correctly to install maximum no. of packages
[00:26] <SlimeyPete> DarkKnight: "maximum no."?
[00:26] <zsquareplusc> linuxman410: that's not bad. you could fine tune with "profile",  but it won't save worlds http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263
[00:26] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, the casper-rw partition and file are only for the home dir or also for installed applications?
[00:27] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: not sure. one is -rw and the other -cow i think one of them is for the entire disk
[00:27] <DarkKnight> SlimeyPete; i just wanted to partition such that when I keep installing packages...i should not run of disk space and also i should have maximum capacity to store my personal files
[00:27] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, ah then i must have missed a part i only read about -rw
[00:28] <zsquareplusc> DarkKnight: then dont make separate /home partition. (though i prefer to have one)
[00:28] <eseven73> DarkKnight: you got a 160 gig hdd, stop worrying lol
[00:28] <eseven73> plenty of room
[00:28] <Dj_Luck_E> wowo i never left here lol
[00:28] <SlimeyPete> Oh. Give 40GB to /, the rest to /home. 40GB should be more than enough for every package you could ever want, and then some.
[00:29] <Dj_Luck_E> so i want both xp and ubuntu
[00:29] <DarkKnight> zsquareplusc; eseven73; so while instllation if i opt for "entire disk" option i.e let it select its own way of partitioning.....so wouldn't be there any problem
[00:29] <Dj_Luck_E> i love partitioning drives
[00:30] <l7> zsquareplusc: hey thanks for that tip.  are there any downsides to the profile message besides slowing down the next boot though?
[00:30] <Dj_Luck_E> i have 20 gis for windows and 40 gigs for ubuntu
[00:31] <zsquareplusc> l7: i don't hope so, i did that once on the other pc. and it still runs :-)
[00:31] <linuxman410> i left windows about 5 years ago completely and have been using linux for 10 years best move ever
[00:31] <Dj_Luck_E> i thought about switching over completely
[00:31] <Dj_Luck_E> if i can get wine to run right
[00:32] <eseven73> i got off the fence last year, and totally wiped out Windows, smartest thing i ever did :)
[00:32] <Dj_Luck_E> lol windows a resource hog
[00:32] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, i think they are the same, but -cow is just old
[00:32] <tvaughn> im loving linux
[00:32] <CheesyWeasel> what is the default hotkey for displaying power information and how to i change it?
[00:32] <linuxman410> i have 3 linux boxes total on my network
[00:33] <tvaughn> what do you guys have your win key do
[00:33] <CheesyWeasel> tvaughn: i use it to map special characters
[00:33] <tvaughn> how do you do that?
[00:34] <eseven73> im keeping my win key reserved for Emacs :)
[00:34] <jonrafkind> hi, is there some fundamental limit in linux that prevents me from setting 'max locked memory' (ulimit -l) past 78k ?
[00:34] <CheesyWeasel> i dont remember
[00:34] <tvaughn> whats the shortcut for opening terminal?
[00:34] <thiebaude> my win key does nothing
[00:35] <linuxman410> my winkey does nothing either
[00:35] <CheesyWeasel> tvaughn: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts make it be whatever you want it to be
[00:35] <CheesyWeasel> what is the default hotkey for displaying power information and how to i change it?
[00:35] <tvaughn> yeah but i dont understand the options
[00:35] <psycardis> There isn't a default cheesy
[00:36] <CheesyWeasel> ubottu: keyboard preferences
[00:36] <CheesyWeasel> psycardis: i know.
[00:36] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, aaah finally got out of it now: "IT WORKS!!! I formatted my flash drive with 2 ext3 partitions, then I typed "sudo e2label /dev/sdb1 casper-rw" did the same for sdb2 except "home-rw" " from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6005093
[00:36] <tvaughn> ubottu, keyboard shortuts
[00:36] <CheesyWeasel> tvaughn: what dont you understand?
[00:36] <Ward1983> home-rw is for home :)
[00:36] <psycardis> cheesy: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/
[00:36] <vaxius> [System Info] Kernel-[Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686] Uptime-[4 days, 22:16] Load-[1.18] CPUCount-[2 Model-Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T8300  @ 2.40GHz Clock-800.000MHz Cache-3072 KB Bogomips-4792.69] Memory-[925/2075M [||||||||||] Total Space-[156.2G] Processes-[156] [modified]
[00:36] <tvaughn> what each option i can set it to means
[00:37] <vaxius> oops, my bad, pressed SysInfo button
[00:37] <psycardis> what do you mean tvaughn?
[00:37] <tvaughn> oh i mean the mapping of win key
[00:37] <vaxius> I use [modified] v1 Script for X-Chat. Highly configurable, Fserve, System Information, Away Script, Auto NickServ Ident, XmmS Show, and more. Get it at-[http://www.geocities.com/modifiedloser/modifiedv1.tar.gz]
[00:38] <vaxius> ignore that too, pressed another button
[00:38] <CheesyWeasel> psycardis: do you know where the power information one is held?
[00:38] <GodfatherofEire2> Need a little help with OpenOffice, it keeps crashing on me when it tries to recover a file, and I cant seem to do anything about it
[00:38] <Pici> vaxius: Please don't do that here.
[00:38] <psycardis> tvaughn: you can use ccsm to make shortcuts...
[00:38] <psycardis> cheesy: what type of power information?
[00:38] <tvaughn> what is super and hyper?
[00:38] <vaxius> Pici: read previous, i was seeing what buttons in xchat do
[00:38] <CheesyWeasel> psycardis: the little bubble that pops up and tells me how much battery life i have left
[00:39] <GodfatherofEire2> Could somebody give me a hand here with openoffice?
[00:39] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to get the desktops in cube shaped....and other such features
[00:39] <zsquareplusc> CheesyWeasel: system->prefs->power and enable the symbol
[00:40] <CheesyWeasel> zsquareplusc: what symbol?
[00:40] <Pici> vaxius: And like I said, don't do that here. Try #test
[00:40] <zsquareplusc> CheesyWeasel: that sould give you a symbol with battery state. and you can click it for more detailed info
[00:40] <vaxius> Pici: didn't know about that channel, thanks
[00:40] <psycardis> Godgatherofeire2: just ask your question
[00:40] <GodfatherofEire2> Psycardis: I did
[00:40] <CheesyWeasel> zsquareplusc: yes i have that, but when i try to mute my sound, a bubble comes out of that battery
[00:41] <CheesyWeasel> zsquareplusc: i want to turn THAT off
[00:41] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to get the desktops in cube shaped....and other such features
[00:41] <psycardis> !compiz | DarkKnight
[00:42] <zsquareplusc> CheesyWeasel: and its about power? didn't knew taht you could have a key for that. when you reassign the mute key in the keyboard shortcuts, doesn't that fix it?
[00:42] <DarkKnight> psycardis; i have installed compiz.......now how do i do it...
[00:42] <snappo> I need help with laptop :P
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight Install ccsm  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager Next go to system...pref..advanced desktop effects....  On the first page  put check next to rotate cube and desktop cube.. dbl click general options... up closer to the top...  click on desktop size  and set them to 4, 1 and 1  top to bottom... ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
[00:42] <GodfatherofEire2> I really, really need to fix this openoffice.org problem, cause I need to take another look at a list of scanners, like, asap
[00:42] <marcioapf> please, can anybody help me UNinstalling ubuntu from my pc. I'll change mine and leave this to someone who surely won't use it.
[00:42] <CheesyWeasel> zsquareplusc: i like my mute key where it is. when i had gutsy, i didnt have this problem
[00:43] <scott_> hey guys i have a shell scripting question.  Can somone help me
[00:43] <sweetgum> how can i install the man pages for development such as man getenv and man export
[00:43] <CheesyWeasel> scott_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:43] <scott_> k-thanks
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> marcioapf Install anything you want over the top of ubuntu..
[00:43] <zsquareplusc> CheesyWeasel: yes. but check in the shortcuts if the mute key is still assigned.  and do you have an Xmodmap?
[00:43] <jtaji> sweetgum: aptitude install manpages-dev
[00:43] <CheesyWeasel> zsquareplusc: idk.
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> marcioapf: how did you install it? what method? from cdrom?
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> marcioapf Please request support from the OS you are going to install. thanks
[00:43] <marcioapf> Jack_Sparrow didn't get it
[00:44] <CheesyWeasel> zsquareplusc: the mute key is assigned because i assigned it to function f2 but apparently function f2 is also "display power information"
[00:44] <GodfatherofEire2> For the love of god will somebody tell me how I can get OO.o to stop trying to recover a damned file, cause it keeps crashing in its attempt to
[00:44] <onetinsoldier> marcioapf: hello?
[00:45] <marcioapf> onetinsoldier i installed it from cdrom
[00:45] <CheesyWeasel> !language
[00:45] <linuxman410> when i did lean install i did not get update manager how do i install it
[00:45] <snappo> can someone help me find out why my usb wifi doesn't work with the new kernel
[00:45] <zsquareplusc> CheesyWeasel: hm. maybe some acpi thing. power/suspend buttons come from there.
[00:45] <CheesyWeasel> thanks
[00:46] <marcioapf> onetinsoldier: from cd-rom.
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> marcioapf: ok, i only know about the 8.10 cdrom. it comes with gparted on it.. load up gparted, and use it to wipe all the linux partitions. that will uninstall it.
[00:47] <snappo> erm I've created many threads on the forum but have had no replies can anyone help me here?
[00:47] <psycardis> GodfatherofEire2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=597253
[00:47] <Anusien> I know you can export displays to different screens.  But is there a way to export it to two screens at once (theoretically one would be read-only) without VNC?
[00:47] <psycardis> I love google
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> marcioapf: you might not even need to do that.. you might be able to do that from within ubuntu right, bit am not totally certain how that'd work out
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> marcioapf: right now*
[00:47] <GodfatherofEire2> Thanks psycardis, hope that works
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> snappo Is your usb in the list of supported hardware/chipsets, (Sorry very short on time here)
[00:48] <gadu33> tuchat.org
[00:48] <snappo> yeah it worked fine with hardy and up till a few days ago
[00:48] <snappo> gnome won't start if it's plugged in
[00:48] <marcioapf> onetinsoldier ok i'll search for something here, and... may i contact you later? thanks for help!
[00:49] <GodfatherofEire2> psycardis, not quite the same problem
[00:49] <zsquareplusc> !info xtv | Anusien
[00:49] <jesper_> Hi, recently installer conky but i dont know how to modify it, want it too look like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=95060&file1=95060-1.jpg&file2=95060-2.jpg&file3=&name=Hunny+Classic . help anyone?
[00:50] <nicklas_> Zazas Zazas Nasatanada Zazas!
[00:50] <psycardis> Are you sure? Did you try resetting to the default themes for ubuntu?
[00:50] <raylu> marcioapf, onetinsoldier: wiping ubuntu won't cut i
[00:50] <raylu> marcioapf, onetinsoldier: you'll have to install a new mbr
[00:50] <raylu> *cut it
[00:50] <GodfatherofEire2> psycardis: Its a slightly diff problem, because it actually did crash
[00:50] <Anusien> zsquareplusc: neat thanks
[00:50] <raylu> marcioapf: unless you have /boot on its own partition
[00:51] <psycardis> GodfatherofEire2: Are you running the default theme?
[00:51] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; i have done what u said...but now i am not able to move to the next wrokspace...
[00:52] <GodfatherofEire2> psycardis: pretty much, yeah, and also, using OO.o 3.0 not 2, so that fix might not work
[00:52] <marcioapf> raylu what should i do? i have ubuntu in one partition, and windows in another.
[00:52] <jesper_> anyhelp?
[00:52] <snappo> ah well thx anyway guys
[00:53] <Vantrax> !ask | jesper_
[00:53] <psycardis> I'm running 3 too, and I had a different issue that was caused by my theme.
[00:53] <scott_> anyone running ubuntu on their ps3?
[00:53] <sweetgum> does anyone have a page on how to use export?
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight Did you follow those instructions exactly?  anything you did not understand or did not work
[00:53] <nicklas_> Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!
[00:53] <sweetgum> to define environment variables
[00:53] <zsquareplusc> !man > sweetgum ;-)
[00:53] <zaapiel> bonjour
[00:54] <sweetgum> zsquareplusc: theres no man entry for export
[00:54] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; i did as u said....one i selected desktop cube...it asked me to disable desktop wall...
[00:54] <Vantrax> sweetgum, what are you trying to export, and from waht
[00:54] <jesper_> but if no one answers :P?
[00:54] <zsquareplusc> sweetgum: sure there is http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/en/man5/exports.html
[00:55] <sweetgum> vantrax: im trying to add an item to the list presented by env for study purposes
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight does ctrl-alt left arrow do anthing
[00:55] <XUb-Webmaster-Ro> running XUbuntu and loving it, but cant seem to work out problems with password locking certain directories on my webserver so that you have to login to see certain pages
[00:55] <zaapiel> <----has issue, clamav was compiled without rar support. Is their a guide I can follow to make my own version of an ubuntu .deb package?
[00:55] <sweetgum> zsquareplusc: i mustn ot have installed the man
[00:55] <zaapiel> id really liek to use the package manager for everything
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight did you disable the wall
[00:55] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; i tried that...not working..
[00:55] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; ya i did
[00:56] <koshar1> DarkKnight: did you anable rotate cube?
[00:56] <Anusien> zsquareplusc: Is there a doc somewhere for there?  The manpage is singularly frownieface
[00:56] <DarkKnight> koshar1; ya enabled
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight I am really busy but right click desktop then wallpaper and far right tab should show effect, how are the set
[00:57] <zaapiel> anyone have a guide for making your own .debs?
[00:57] <zaapiel> clamav doesnt have rar support which i need
[00:57] <linuxman410> when i did lean install i did not get update manager how do i install it
[00:57] <zsquareplusc> Anusien: i dont know. personally i'd use vnc with shared connection option
[00:57] <Winball> !aptitude | Winball
[00:57] <vaxius> !info checkinstall | zaapiel
[00:57] <yacc> I wonder how to make Xorg not use the HAL autodetection (completely or of all devices?)
[00:57] <koshar1> zaapiel do you want to quick and dirty checkinstall for your own ones or the proper debial way
[00:57] <zaapiel> my own is fine
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> koshar1 good point, I wrongly assume people will get that part right
[00:58] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, yep just a partition labeled home-rw and a partition called casper-rw will do for full persistence :) jsut tested with the regular 8.10 install cd
[00:58] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; thanxx its solved by what u said.....now what keys do i press to get i shaped like a cube
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight  ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
[00:58] <keven> Need support with Cobalt Raq4 anyone used to these dedicated servers?
[00:59] <yabuk> popup a menu when I make a left click on any file, there is "encrypt" as a option of this menu, but there is no key or nay way to make the "OK" button enabled. how to encrypt by this way?
[00:59] <KingOfDos> DarkKnight: ctrl+alt+mousecl.... what Jack_Sparrow says ;)
[00:59] <koshar1> cont alt left mouse on vacant desktop
[00:59] <zaapiel> checkinstall looks neat
[00:59] <zaapiel> danke
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> raylu: hi, iwas gone for a bit. yeah, perhaps the mbr would still have a bootloader. hoever, if all the linux partitions were wiped, imo, that's it... nothing to boot to even if there is a boot loader
[00:59] <koshar1> DarkKnight or use the scroller on the vacant desktop
[01:00] <Smokey> need to lock my files away from root as well, other users on my computer are accessing my files with the sudo command, how can I prevent this?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight or /j #Compiz
[01:01] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow, KingOfDos; thanx....its working
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Smokey do they have their own accounts?
[01:01] <Smokey> yes
[01:01] <zsquareplusc> Smokey: you can't. you can have a personal ecryptfs, but while it is mounted others can access the mount point as root
[01:02] <Smokey> so i need to encrypt?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> You added them to sudoes file?
[01:02] <Smokey> no
[01:02] <yesitisjustme> Is there a software that will detect processor model number or will i have to open tower and remove heatsink to see the model number?
[01:02] <Smokey> they goto terminal and type sudo thunar, and it lets them access anything on the computer
[01:02] <yacc> yesitisjustme, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:03] <zsquareplusc> yesitisjustme: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:03] <vaxius> Smokey: remove them from sudoers
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yesitisjustme everesthome will run under wine or dos box or one of the bootablecd's for detection like cpu-z
[01:03] <kitche> Smokey: well you can't hide any file from root really
[01:03] <yesitisjustme> cool thanks all
[01:03] <Smokey> hmmm, well what if I take adminstrator privilages away?
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta get back to work..
[01:03] <Smokey> will that work?
[01:03] <vaxius> Smokey: that's kind of what i just said
[01:04] <Smokey> ohhh ok sry didnt catch that, but you gave me the idea, thankz
[01:05] <adammichaelroach> i added a user on the command line with adduser, how can i allow that user to do commands such as wget and tar
[01:05] <DraculaX> I know this is out of nowhere, but anyone know why after installing the creative x-fi drivers or the ALSA drivers I still dont get any sound. I have the x-fi  titanium
[01:06] <DraculaX> does it matter that it is a PCI-E card make a diff?
[01:06] <zsquareplusc> adammichaelroach: that should already be possible
[01:06] <RukusX> hey everyone
[01:06] <DraculaX> Hello ruk
[01:06] <DarkKnight> hey how can see all the 4 desktops at once
[01:07] <RukusX> IF i wanted to add two lines to my GRUB and keep them static so they affect newer kernel updates, where do u put them in my grub loader?
[01:07] <vaxius> DarkKnight: try expo
[01:07] <phix> RukusX: where it tells you to
[01:07] <adammichaelroach> zsquareplusc: I get a permission denied when i try to wget
[01:07] <gaintsura> hey all, I just noticed that my wifi is no longer working (I'm assuming its from the kernel upgrade and my system REALLY does not like to hold onto my wifi drivers after upgrade), I've tried doing make clean; sudo make uninstall; make; sudo make install; on the madwifi drivers (0.9.4, same as my previous ones) but now I don't see my wireless connection (wifi0 or ath0) in ifconfig or iwconfig, anyone have any ideas?
[01:07] <phix> RukusX: before or after the line that says put tuff before or after this line :)
[01:07] <DarkKnight> vaxius; ya i enabled it....what keys do i use now
[01:07] <koshar1> DarkKnight you need to use the wall plugin for that
[01:07] <phix> tuff = stuff
[01:07] <killer--tux> hello i need a program to make custom cd menus
[01:07] <killer--tux> any idea anyone
[01:07] <vaxius> DarkKnight: super(win) + e
[01:08] <jon_> penguin love
[01:08] <zsquareplusc> adammichaelroach: how did you run it? in a bash shel? and wht's "whoami" saying
[01:08] <phix> killer--tux: open up gedit and start hacking away :)
[01:08] <koshar1> vaxius is that expose?
[01:08] <DarkKnight> vaxius1; koshar1; vaxius solution works....thanxx
[01:08] <koshar1> sorry my bad
[01:08] <gaintsura> well, not now, but even before I tried doing the make uninstall and such, I still did not see it, usually a re-install of them fixes it
[01:09] <vaxius> koshar1: it's a clone of it, a plugin called "Expo" for compiz
[01:09] <koshar1> DarkKnight and if you want to see all open windows use the scale plugin
[01:09] <NotADJ> What package can I find Java for Firefox in?
[01:09] <RukusX> phix ya i'm not following
[01:09] <adammichaelroach> zsquareplusc: someone ran it for me, i'm not sure, i am able to sudo though and run wget, whoami just returns my username
[01:09] <adammichaelroach> zsquareplusc: i assume he ran it in bash
[01:10] <DarkKnight> koshar1; were do i get that
[01:10] <koshar1> DarkKnight its in the advanced settings you been using,
[01:11] <darkangel> salut a tous
[01:11] <DraculaX> Anyone Else even have an X-Fi with ubuntu? hehe
[01:11] <DarkKnight> koshar1; i didnt find it there
[01:11] <koshar1> DarkKnight under window management
[01:11] <gaintsura> yarrr
[01:11] <gaintsura> did what I say get posted about 4 minutes ago?
[01:12] <phix> RukusX: have you read the file yeT?
[01:12] <vaxius> !java | NotADJ
[01:12] <koshar1> DarkKnight binding initiate window picker for ALL windows
[01:12] <DarkKnight> koshar1; checked it...its enabled....so which key i have to use
[01:12] <RukusX> phix\  do i want to put options after this line? # kopt=root=UUID=d319e25e-49e4-4aae-9ccb-e8d6c7e9507c ro
[01:12] <jon_> Yes
[01:12] <koshar1> DarkKnight i use the mouse beyond top right binding,
[01:12] <RukusX> phix rather
[01:13] <DarkKnight> koshar1; top binding in the sense??
[01:13] <koshar1> 4th binding down for screen top right but you can allocate it to any binding not being used.
[01:13] <phix> RukusX: look for the line --> # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
[01:13] <CheesyWeasel> i remapped my mute key to function + f2, which apparently is being used to display battery information... how do i change what sequence displays battery info?
[01:14] <CheesyWeasel> its not under system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[01:14] <phix> RukusX: and further down you see --> ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[01:14] <DarkKnight> koshar1; <koshar1> DarkKnight binding initiate window picker for ALL windows   ....... what does this mean
[01:14] <phix> RukusX: and right at the end of the file you see --> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[01:14] <phix> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[01:14] <phix> RukusX: I am glad I could be of help :)
[01:14] <koshar1> DarkKnight it will show all the open windows on all windows rather than just the current one
[01:14] <chgentso> Hello, I have a question: Anyone knows possible reasons for the kernel not finding the modules.dep file when it is clearly where is should be?
[01:15] <chgentso> Thanksin advance
[01:15] <DarkKnight> koshar1; i enabled scale.....but now how do i use my mouse to get that
[01:16] <RukusX> phix so if i wanted to added pci=routeirq  i can put that anywhere just like that after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ????
[01:16] <koshar1> DarkKnight if you selected top right move the mouse curser beyond the top right corner of the screen
[01:16] <lenswipe> hokey!
[01:16] <CarlFK> i just re-installed ibex (x64 this time)  what is the package that fixed broken ath5k wifi?
[01:18] <jon_> : would enjoy dousing his computer in gasoline, lighting it and burying the charred remains in a shallow grave.
[01:18] <zsquareplusc> CarlFK: linux-modules-backports or something like that name?
[01:18] <phix> RukusX: ja
[01:18] <CarlFK> zsquareplusc: yeah
[01:18] <Rew> youtube videos use to play for me but now they don't anymore any suggestions?
[01:18] <phix> Rew: update flash
[01:18] <Rew> phix: how?
[01:18] <phix> Rew: flash non-free version
[01:19] <zsquareplusc> jon_: IRC intro: that would be one of these lines to be typed with /me ;-)
[01:19] <phix> Rew: using apt-get or aptitude or synaptic
[01:19] <CarlFK> Rew:  fight the system and use miro!
[01:19] <alixei> hi everyone
[01:19] <Rew> i'll try
[01:19] <phix> gg
[01:20] <RukusX> phix you realize that these are kernel options. Is this going to work with out them in.. say the line including the kernel?
[01:20] <gaintsura> hey all, I just noticed that my wifi is no longer working (I'm assuming its from the kernel upgrade and my system REALLY does not like to hold onto my wifi drivers after upgrade), I've tried doing make clean; sudo make uninstall; make; sudo make install; on the madwifi drivers (0.9.4, same as my previous ones) even now (after trying) I don't see my wireless connection (wifi0 or ath0) in ifconfig or iwconfig, anyone have any ideas?
[01:20] <phix> RukusX: add it to kopts then
[01:21] <killer--tux> phix what are u talking about
[01:21] <CarlFK> gaintsura:  linux-modules-backports or something like that name? :)
[01:21] <phix> killer--tux: if you want such a program you can always write it yourself :)
[01:21] <phix> BRB lunch
[01:21] <RukusX> phix so i need to copy and paste that kopts line uncommented to an area out of debian automagic kernel lists?
[01:22] <gaintsura> ??
[01:22] <killer--tux> phix so ur trying to say that there is no such thing
[01:22] <phix> RukusX: give it a go, or better yet install the grub-doc package and have a read
[01:22] <RukusX> or just leave it where it is, commented and all and the grub loader will handle it?
[01:22] <WDC> buntu
[01:22] <alixei> new to this xchat.  is this online community for ubuntu questions....?
[01:22] <Rew> phix: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?  that what I should use?
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> alixei: yes. welcome!
[01:23] <harveyd> I accidently deleted the wireless manager from my taskbar, and cant seem to find it in applets, how do I reenable it?
[01:23] <WDC> alixei: Yes sir
[01:23] <phix> killer--tux: no, I am not saying that, I am just pointing out that writing one your self is an option too.  You can try looking at synpatic and see if you can find a package that does that if you like
[01:23] <CarlFK> gaintsura: i too was just asking about ath wifi - that was the answer zsquareplusc gave me
[01:23] <phix> Rew: sounds about right
[01:23] <killer--tux> thanks
[01:23] <gaintsura> CarlFK: madwifi was working perfectly until the newest kernel update
[01:24] <killer--tux> phix  i dont have any programing skills yet bro
[01:24] <robm06> what's the name of 9.04 going to be?
[01:24] <gaintsura> so I'm not sure why it would stop now if it was fine
[01:24] <Rew> phix: says I have the newest version... I think it has something to do with the theme I'm using because it worked fine till i switched it
[01:24] <phix> killer--tux: oh, well take a look on synpatic then
[01:24] <phix> Rew: hmmm, perhaps
[01:24] <genii> robm06: "Jaunty Jackelope"
[01:24] <robm06> genii: I like the sound of that!
[01:24] <genii> Hmm
[01:24] <CarlFK> gaintsura: I have AR242x
[01:25] <bacon> 1360!so many people!
[01:25] <gaintsura> 10.XX could be Krusty Krakheads =D
[01:25] <gaintsura> CarlFK: same
[01:25] <bacon> 有中国的朋友吗
[01:25] <CheesyWeasel> bacon: i agrewe
[01:25] <eseven73> !Cn
[01:25] <CheesyWeasel> agree, even
[01:25] <CarlFK> gaintsura: i think you just need that package... i installed it a while ago.  just reinstal;led os, couldn't remember the .deb name
[01:26] <RukusX> ok i just add it to the kopts line without uncommenting it
[01:27] <gaintsura> CarlFK: hm, ok, well I will check and see if that helps, will inform
[01:27] <platius> harveyd; try System>Administration>Network, rightclick
[01:28] <vishyc88> where can i download gnome themes
[01:28] <vishyc88> ?
[01:29] <pro1ove> gnome-look.org
[01:29] <harveyd> nah I can access that fine, I mean the wireless manager that shows me networks and stuff on the taskbar
[01:29] <yourandom> does anyone know of a way to run windows screensavers on ubuntu?
[01:29] <vishyc88> but im not able to install it
[01:29] <pro1ove> what kind of themes?
[01:30] <harveyd> actually found it
[01:30] <vishyc88> desktop themes'
[01:30] <harveyd> it should seriously have a better name than "Notification area"
[01:30] <bobbyd> hi
[01:30] <yourandom> pro1ove: was that question directed at me?
[01:30] <yourandom> bobbyd: hi
[01:30] <uni4dfx> hello, how do i stop wpa_supplicant? i can't kill it, it immediately comes back
[01:31] <paz_> can someone advise me hwat to do with an installation problem? I'm trying to install 8.04LTS, but when i get to step 4 of 7, the partition manager window is blank?
[01:31] <pro1ove> what distro you use?
[01:31] <bobbyd> what's the best way to connect my netbook to the internet using bluetooth and my mobile phone? Can't see any options for the in the Intrepid network manager.
[01:31] <eseven73> !who
[01:31] <yourandom> I agree
[01:32] <yourandom> on !who
[01:32] <bobbyd> uni4dfx: use pstree to find out what owns it and kill that?
[01:32] <bobbyd> uni4dfx: maybe it's networkmanager
[01:35] <onetinsoldier> bobbyd: looks like init to me
[01:35] <MrCollins> is there a setting in ubuntu intrepid that disables my ability to switch desktops?
[01:35] <yourandom> paz_: stupid question but do you have a hd
[01:35] <Formode> mrcollins, What do you mean? The desktop switcher in the GNOME Panel? Or the Compiz Switcher?
[01:35] <MrCollins> Formode, gnome
[01:36] <uni4dfx> bobbyd: thanks, it was networkmanager :)
[01:36] <Formode> mrcollins, Right click on the switcher in the GNOME panel, and click "Remove from Panel" :)
[01:36] <paz_> andymd: yes, what ahappened is I tried to updrage from 7.10, and now I get a BusyBox shell prompt, so I used GRUB to boot from the 2nd kernel choice
[01:36] <MrCollins> Formode, but my problem is I cannot switch desktops
[01:36] <bobbyd> MrCollins: what is your problem exactly? are you doing it accidentally?
[01:37] <bobbyd> aha \;0
[01:37] <Formode> Mrcollins, Oh. I thought you wanted to disable it. *Fails at reading*
[01:37] <MrCollins> Formode, I changed some setting and have disbaled my ability to switch...
[01:37] <bobbyd> uni4dfx: np
[01:37] <bobbyd> MrCollins: did you just reduce the number of desktops to 1 in the desktop switcher in the bottom right?
[01:37] <MrCollins> no there is 4 of them Formode
[01:37] <bobbyd> MrCollins: try right-clicking it and setting it to >1
[01:38] <bobbyd> hmm
[01:38] <bobbyd> and you click on them but nothing happens?
[01:38] <Formode> mrcollins, try clicking on your desktop (So no windows are selected) and try scrolling up and down?
[01:38] <MrCollins> Formode, doesnt work and yes bobbyd when I click nothing happens
[01:39] <Formode>  mrcollins, Do you have Compiz Effects Enabled?
[01:39] <MrCollins> Formode, I may. How do I check?
[01:39] <Formode> System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects
[01:39] <Formode> Tell me what selection you have, if any.
[01:39] <Ward1983> i just made a persistent live boot external HD, can i somehow also create a real username instead of the livecd one?
[01:39] <weasel8> Hey guys, I'm having trouble playing DVD's with Ubuntu
[01:39] <alejandro> saint
[01:39] <MrCollins> Formode, none of them are selected
[01:40] <alejandro> hi!!:...
[01:40] <weasel8> I've got ubuntu-restricted-extras, libdvdread3, and gxine installed
[01:40] <usser> weasel8, you have to install libdvdcss2 to play encrypted dvds
[01:40] <Formode> mrcollings, Try System -> Preferences -> Compizconfigsettingsmanager
[01:40] <usser> !medibuntu | weasel8
[01:41] <weasel8> usser: I've got libdvdcss2 installed already.
[01:41] <MrCollins> Formode, ok I am pulling up Compiz config what do I select
[01:41] <killer--tux> app for cd menus anyone
[01:41] <Formode> mrcollins, ARe you on someone elses computer, or has someone been playing with your computer?
[01:42] <MrCollins> Formode, I may have made the settings change. and yes this is my PC :)
[01:42] <weasel8> usser: I followed the PlayingDVDs page in the wiki, but I still get errors with mplayer, gxine, ogle, and vlc
[01:43] <Formode> mrcollins, Ok, well, there's two ways we can do this. :) We can go try to enable the right plugin for you to do it, or we can just revert back to default compiz settings, up to you. :)
[01:43] <usser> weasel8, and the dvd plays on windows or other players?
[01:43] <MrCollins> Formode, lets go default, how do we do it?
[01:43] <MrCollins> Formode, where do I select defaults?
[01:43] <weasel8> usser: plays fine on my other laptop, which runs arch linux (this one is for my sister)
[01:44] <Formode> mrcollins, System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects, then pick "Normal" or "Extra" based on how much graphics you like. :)
[01:44] <killer--tux> app for cd menus anyone
[01:44] <unavailable> Anyone here a regular of the Linux Users Group??
[01:44] <weasel8> killer--tux, what do you mean?
[01:44] <usser> weasel8, what does dpkg -l | grep dvdcss say?
[01:44] <unavailable> !offtopic >unavailable
[01:44] <MrCollins> ok FormFOok..
[01:45] <killer--tux> weasel8 custom cd menus
[01:45] <Formode> mrcollins, Any luck there bud?
[01:45] <MrCollins> Formode, got it
[01:45] <weasel8> usser: ii  libdvdcss2 1.2.10-0.2medibuntu1 Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime
[01:45] <weasel8> killer--tux: do you mean dvd menus?
[01:45] <gaintsura> no.. really... WTF why doesnt madwifi work anymore? installed linux-backports-generic for my kernel and still no go, or do I have to install the one for the kernel back from my current?
[01:45] <usser> weasel8, hm looks fine... i don't know what to tell you
[01:45] <MrCollins> Formode, THANK YOU :)
[01:45] <weasel8> usser: weird
[01:45] <Formode> mrcollins, Yay! :D I hope that fixes it for you. :) If you continue to have problems don't hesitate to get in contact with me or shoot me an email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:46] <Formode> !Love | Mrcollins
[01:46] <jean> cs4 master collection keys anyone ?
[01:46] <usser> weasel8, any other encrypted dvds play?
[01:46] <killer--tux> weasel8  i want to make a cd data cd with menus
[01:46] <gaintsura> jean: not here
[01:46] <usser> weasel8, how about unencrypted?
[01:46] <weasel8> usser: i've tried 3, none work
[01:46] <jean> tx
[01:46] <weasel8> usser: hold on, let me try
[01:47] <MrCollins> Formode, thanks man. I do have a question. The game 'Jammer-TheGardener' crashes on start when I give the command 'jammer-thegardener' in terminal.... any ideaS?
[01:47] <Formode> mrcollins, have you tried launching it (If it's there) from the GNOME menu? Applications -> Games
[01:47] <weasel8> usser: unencrypted ones play fine
[01:47] <koshar1> weasel8 run an app from terminal and look for errors
[01:48] <weasel8> koshar1: ok, let's see
[01:48] <usser> weasel8, try reinstalling libdvdcss2. sudo dpkg --purge libdvdcss2
[01:48] <evilGUI> I just installed a murrine them and it's not skinning gedit any idea why?
[01:48] <usser> weasel8, and sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[01:48] <MrCollins> Formode, nothing there
[01:48] <MrCollins> Formode, I have to issue terminal commands
[01:49] <Formode> mrcollins, Did you install it from a .deb file?
[01:49] <evilGUI> ah nm its because I used sudo
[01:49] <MrCollins> Formode,
[01:49] <MrCollins> Formode, yeh.
[01:49] <Formode> mrcollins, can you pastebin the output from your terminal when you try to launch it for me?
[01:49] <Formode> !Pastebin | Mrcollins
[01:49] <weasel8> koshar1: running gxine from the terminal, I get this error: for a bunch of different files: warning: configuration item media.dvd.raw_device points to a non-existent location /dev/rdvd
[01:49] <killer--tux> weasel8  i want to make a cd data cd with menus ?!?
[01:50] <MrCollins> Formode, thanks I know about pastebin and Ill post the output there
[01:50] <weasel8> killer--tux: i don't know what you mean. you mean when somebody puts it in their computer, a menu automatically pops up?
[01:50] <ubuntu008>
[01:50] <Formode> mrcollins, Please don't. I got the bot to send you a link.
[01:50] <killer--tux> weasel8  yes exactly
[01:51] <aeolien> Hi! I just made a new user who I want to have admin privileges, but under the Apps menu there's no Add/Remove. Have I done something wrong?
[01:51] <MrCollins> Formode, what are you talking about? please dont post my output there?
[01:51] <weasel8> killer--tux: pretty sure that requires software on the dvd to automatically launch when it's inserted. you'd have to write the software yourself and even then linux won't let it launch itself (but windows will)
[01:51] <Fatou> does VUZE has a chat room? anyone ?
[01:52] <weasel8> fatou: I dunno, why don't you google it or something?
[01:52] <vaxius> aeolien: just add the new user to the proper group
[01:52] <gleesond> where in the file system does ubuntu mount stuff it finds on a windows network?
[01:52] <Formode> mrcollins, You'll get in troubles if you do. ^^ paste.ubuntu.com, go there and paste the output in there, then click save and send me the link it gives you. :)
[01:52] <aeolien> vaxius, which group is that?
[01:52] <JebusTheMexican> Anyone use FakeRaid to share a raid 0 setup with windows?
[01:52] <killer--tux> yes that what i want to do when they put it on windows to automatically come up
[01:52] <vaxius> aeolien: admin
[01:52] <Formode> mrcollins, Keeps the channel spam down. :) There's 1342 people in here ya'know.
[01:52] <MrCollins> Formode, how will I get in trouble if I post the output to the pastebin?
[01:53] <RawIsWar> leave Asta Luego
[01:53] <Formode> mrcollins, You won't get in trouble if it's on pastebin. If you paste it directly to IRC people won't be hapy though.
[01:53] <Formode> !Pastebin | Mrcollins
[01:53] <weasel8> killer--tux: ok, so you have to find out how to write some menu software and have it launch when the dvd is inserted.
[01:53] <MrCollins> Formode, I never said I would post it in here. read above what I wrote Formode
[01:54] <weasel8> Formode: MrCollins never said he was going to paste it here
[01:54] <killer--tux> i have no programing skills bro
[01:54] <Formode> mrcollins, Oh. My. God. I fail at reading today. I'm so sorry. :(
[01:54] <MrCollins> Formode, it is ok. I just was confrused as to what you were wanting me to do! :)
[01:54] <MrCollins> Formode, here is your link thanks again http://paste.ubuntu.com/85891/
[01:54] <Formode> mrcollins. I feel so bad now. :(
[01:54] <weasel8> killer--tux: well, then...don't know what to tell you. I don't know of any software that will do it for you.
[01:54] <MrCollins> Formode, do not feel bad it is ok.
[01:55] <killer--tux> o ok thanks
[01:55] <weasel8> killer--tux: yep. sorry i couldn't help more
[01:55] <MrCollins> Formode, could it be my video drivers?
[01:55] <RawIsWar> leave bye
[01:55] <Formode> mrcollins, can you tell me what you see when you enter "glxgears" please?
[01:56] <MrCollins> Formode,  I see the gears spin
[01:56] <Formode> mrcollins, Then it's not your video. :)
[01:56] <robm06> What's the easiest way to have Ubuntu devour an annoying copy of Windows Vista?
[01:56] <gaintsura> gparted
[01:56] <MrCollins> robm06, probably gparted
[01:56] <Formode> robm06, I love you. :)
[01:56] <weasel8> weird...my dvd just randomly decided to work
[01:57] <weasel8> robm06: just use the install cd to take up the whole disk
[01:57] <Formode> mrcollins, Hm, I'm not entirely sure. Do you have pygame installed?
[01:57] <MrCollins> Formode, I do not know
[01:57] <weasel8> robm06: or, if you want to have fun, install a virus or something
[01:57] <evilGUI> weasel8: dvd drive going bad?
[01:57] <rustybin> how does one install firefox 3 in hardy?
[01:57] <gaintsura> weasel8: its not random, I can't remember the law/theory but its along the lines of it does (or does not) do what you want it to until you try to show someone
[01:57] <weasel8> evilGUI: shouldn't be
[01:57] <gaintsura> rustybin: sudo apt-get install firefox-3
[01:57] <Formode> mrcollins, sudo apt-get install python-pygame :)
[01:57] <robm06> Thanks all
[01:58] <rustybin> gaintsura, i'll try that, thanks
[01:58] <Fatou> When I boot up with ubuntu to read my windows drive sometime it refuses to mount saying that the disk was not properly shut down. Any reason why ?
[01:58] <gaintsura> rustybin: np, if its not firefox-3 its firefox-3.0
[01:58] <vaxius> rustybin: shouldn't that just be "firefox"?
[01:58] <amy__> hola alguien me podria decir como puedo instalar amsn desde la terminal plissss
[01:58]  * Panarchy says Hi
[01:58] <zsquareplusc> Fatou: do you hibernate windows?
[01:59] <Fatou> no I do a normal restart from windows
[01:59] <gaintsura> Fatou: my system does that a lot, its the way NTFS is, just mount -t <fat type> <device> -o force
[01:59] <rww> !es | amy__
[01:59] <Fatou> I have dual boot with Ubuntu/Vista
[01:59] <Panarchy> If I were to squashfs my ubuntu installation, how many MB would the ISO be?
[01:59] <MrCollins> python-pygame set to manually installed.
[01:59] <MrCollins> oops sorry.
[01:59] <rustybin> vaxius, oh, i'm running gutsy
[01:59] <zsquareplusc> Fatou: isnt vista doing hibernate by default?
[01:59] <koshar1> Panarchy depends how big it is to begin with
[01:59] <vaxius> rustybin: oic
[02:00] <MrCollins> @ Formode see /msg please
[02:00] <Formode> mrcollins, Alrighty. :)
[02:00] <Fatou> zsquareplusc: No I make sure I shut it off, and turn it back on
[02:00] <Panarchy> If I were to squashfs my ubuntu installation, how many MB would the ISO be? After right-clicking properties of my 'Filesystem', it told me that I have 3.7GB used
[02:01] <CaneToad> I'm having trouble with updating ubuntu 8.10.... W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gedit/gedit-common_2.24.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:01] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get update
[02:01] <Panarchy> If I were to squashfs my ubuntu installation, how many MB would the ISO be? After right-clicking properties of my 'Filesystem', it told me that I have 2.8GB used
[02:01] <vaxius> CaneToad: you can try another mirror
[02:01] <Formode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85891/ Anyone know what might be causing him a problem?
[02:01] <raylu> CaneToad: 404 here too; report it as a bug?
[02:01] <eseven73> very doubtful but does ubuntu have anything close to OneNote?
[02:02] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: depends the the compression ratio. you could check what a live cd achieves. it may get 60% smaller
[02:02] <raylu> eseven73: what feature of onenote?
[02:02] <CaneToad> vaxius/raylu I presume the Australian ubuntu mirror isn't up to date?
[02:02] <eseven73> raylu: like books i guess
[02:02] <raylu> CaneToad: more likely someone just screwed something up
[02:02] <raylu> eseven73: er, explain?
[02:02] <vaxius> CaneToad: don't know why it wouldn't be, maybe it's just down right now
[02:02] <CaneToad> ok how do I configure another mirror?
[02:02] <raylu> no, it's not down: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gedit/
[02:03] <pyrak> timevault of flyback?
[02:03] <gaintsura> could anyone help me get madwifi working again? I upgraded to 2.6.24-22-generic a few days ago, and now I have no wifi0/ath0, I MUST stick with madwifi, no ndiswrapper. I tried installing linux-backports-generic for my kernel, but still nothing. Any ideas?
[02:03] <vaxius> CaneToad: you can use synaptic
[02:03] <raylu> CaneToad: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> raylu I can bring it up too.. not down
[02:03] <robm06> ubuntu alternative for OneNote, anything?
[02:03] <eseven73> raylu: like in onenote you can create "books" and tabs and stuff, the closest thing that i know for that would be Kjots
[02:03] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: So do you think it would fit on a CD?
[02:03] <gaintsura> robm06: try osalt.com
[02:04] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: i guess, not
[02:04] <Panarchy> If I were to squashfs my ubuntu installation, how many MB would the ISO be? After right-clicking properties of my 'Filesystem', it told me that I have 2.9GB used
[02:04] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: Damn!
[02:04] <vaxius> CaneToad: go to settings > repositories in synaptic
[02:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> !remaster > Panarchy
[02:04] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: now its just 2.9? before you said 3.9...
[02:04] <eseven73> raylu: im kinda looking for a PIM too, which would be 'kontact' im guessing?
[02:04] <robm06> gaintsura: Cool! I'll bookmark this :)
[02:04] <raylu> eseven73: i don't use either, actually :P
[02:04] <harushimo> question for the ubuntu people, Is there restrictions on ubuntu for certain mobo
[02:04] <gaintsura> zsquareplusc: actually, he said 2.8 =P
[02:04] <Fatou> I did a USB boot up key. Will that boot any other system or just my laptop ?
[02:04] <raylu> eseven73: but i think that's it
[02:05] <Jack_Smirnoff> !hardware > harushimo
[02:05] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: Is there any way I can start all over again from scratch, with only a terminal, apt & network functionality (for apt)
[02:05] <gaintsura> Fatou: not that I'm aware of, it should boot any system
[02:05] <zsquareplusc> gaintsura: and a few lines above it were 3.7..
[02:05] <gaintsura> note the *SHOULD*
[02:05] <gaintsura> zsquareplusc: hah lol
[02:05] <Fatou> gaintsura: cool to know, tx
[02:05] <Panarchy> Is there any way I can start all over again from scratch, with only a terminal, apt & network functionality (for apt)
[02:05] <raylu> Fatou: not all bios's support booting from a usb device
[02:05] <harushimo> I can't install the current version of ubuntu at all
[02:05] <raylu> Panarchy: reinstall?
[02:06] <Fatou> raylu: that I know of course
[02:06] <evilGUI> harushimo: there isn't unless your motherboard manufacture tries to stop you from installing ubuntu a few foxcon boards have this problem
[02:06] <raylu> Fatou: then there's nothing else stopping it from running
[02:06] <Panarchy> raylu: No, I want less space used up then what I reinstall would give
[02:06] <harushimo> I'm running Gutsy Gibbon without a problem
[02:06] <Panarchy> For instanced, I don't want to start off with GNOME
[02:06] <evilGUI> it's rare though and there are solutions most of the time
[02:06] <harushimo> I can't install Hardy Heron or Intrepid Ibex
[02:06] <pyrak> timevault of flyback?
[02:06] <Panarchy> or any windower
[02:06] <Fatou> raylu: good to know. I thought that it was linked to installation on my laptop !!!
[02:06] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: apt-get clean, uninstall some packages you don't need and most important, try to make a squashfs and check its size, uninstall, iterate
[02:06] <gatewaydrug> anybody here runs vlc??
[02:06] <harushimo> I don't know what solution I use
[02:06] <raylu> Panarchy: ubuntu server edition :D. also, gentoo
[02:07] <dietwater> Where is the gtk gnoem theme repo at?
[02:07] <vaxius> Panarchy: i would suggest trying xubuntu
[02:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo # To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[02:07] <rww> !theme | dietwater
[02:07] <stupok1> hey, I'm searching on the forums right now, but I'd appreciate some help getting nvidia drivers going, the enable button doesn't actually enable the drivers, reboot doesn't work :/
[02:07] <eseven73> zsquareplusc: what is sqashfs?
[02:07] <dietwater> I can download all the themes I want.  Wheres the location of all of them?
[02:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> eseven73 file system
[02:08] <harushimo> this should work for Intrepid Ibex or Hardy Heron
[02:08] <zsquareplusc> eseven73: squashfs is a compressed file system. it used on the live cd to squezze more data on it for the live system
[02:08] <osxdude> I have a Fujitsu Lifebook A series sitting in front of me...Right now it has no internet in the Ubuntu Live CD. I do not plan on installing Ubuntu cause I just want to move a file. I cannot use USB, Ethernet, or wireless. How can I get these drivers?
[02:08] <harushimo> I still get the fd0 error with Hardy Heron
[02:08] <dietwater> You...want to move a file?
[02:08] <raylu> osxdude: floppy/cd?
[02:08] <eseven73> oh zsquareplusc can i use it to put stuff on my external hdd? Its ext3 though prolly not hah?
[02:08] <zsquareplusc> osxdude, no internet? with an ethernet cable?
[02:08] <tvaughn> i know right
[02:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo I sometimes do but I see the error twice and after aminute it finishes the install
[02:09] <tvaughn> i had wifi issues but never ethernet
[02:09] <osxdude> raylu, first of all i'm running off of the ubuntu Live CD. and there is no floppy drive
[02:09] <harushimo> I can't get into the cd at all
[02:09] <osxdude> zsquareplusc, no.
[02:09] <harushimo> even the one that canonical sent me doesn't work
[02:09] <gatewaydrug> anybody here running vlc? i need some help
[02:09] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo do you get the first menu
[02:09] <zsquareplusc> eseven73: compressed filesystems are often not good at writing. that's no problem on a cd as that is only written once, but more difficult for a R/W system
[02:09] <jrib> gatewaydrug: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[02:09] <rww> !ask | gatewaydrug
[02:09] <harushimo> its get to the menu after that, it doesn't work
[02:10] <eseven73> zsquareplusc: ok ty
[02:10] <zsquareplusc> osxdude no cable? or...   you have an ethernet cable but it doesnt work?
[02:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo and at that menu what do you see when you remove quiet and splash like I asked
[02:10] <dietwater> Where are my gtk+ themes located?
[02:10] <harushimo> the options for the cd
[02:10] <jrib> dietwater: why?
[02:10] <redrebel> how come I can't view my windows shares in my ubuntu 8.10 through nautilus?
[02:10] <harushimo> like install ubuntu, check cd for defects...
[02:10] <rww> dietwater: the .themes directory in your home directory
[02:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo # To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[02:11] <exodus_ms> !samba | redrebel
[02:11] <tvaughn> i tried to remove splash and it wouldnt boot
[02:11] <Panarchy> Okay, well currently install remastersys
[02:11] <Panarchy> Okay, well currently installing remastersys
[02:11] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo If you do that .. you should see more about waht is going on.. Have you tried that
[02:11] <harushimo> okay I'll try that
[02:11] <dietwater> Thanks.
[02:11] <vaxius> harushimo: if nothing works in you cd drive, i would think you need a new one, they're cheap
[02:11] <harushimo> I think thats only thing I haven't tried
[02:12] <gatewaydrug> im running vlc and trying to setup my iphone to run vlc remote... there is a file thats called .hosts and its supposed to be in /usr/share/vlc/http/   but its not...
[02:12] <Fatou> osxdude, you may need to remove the hard drive
[02:12] <harushimo> I have no problem reading the cds, dvds even work
[02:12] <Fatou> and install a usb reader on it
[02:12] <eseven73> !who | a lot of people
[02:12] <vaxius> harushimo: oh, nvm then
[02:12] <Jack_Smirnoff> gatewaydrug .file means hidden, have you enabled viewing hidden files
[02:12] <Fatou> and copy your files from another computer
[02:12] <gatewaydrug> bingo... i havent... thanks jack
[02:13] <osxdude> Fatou, I can barely access the HDD in Windows, so, eh, I could try to put the file in some random directory...thanks for the idea :P
[02:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo Try both of the suggestions I made and tell people what happens.. I will NOT be here for long, so someone else will need to help ou
[02:13] <xiangfu> join #ubuntu-cn
[02:13] <harushimo> thank you
[02:13] <CITguy-Hermes> does anybody know how to open a GUI app ON a remote computer (not FROM, ON)
[02:13] <harushimo> I'll try your thing and come back on later
[02:13] <zachb> Maybe I'm being too hopeful, but is there a way I can do FIXBOOT for my windows partition from within linux?
[02:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> harushimo
[02:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> np
[02:13] <sweetgum> can someone tell me how i can add to the list displayed when i type env
[02:13] <zachb> ...or should I ask in a windows help place?
[02:14] <raylu> CITguy-Hermes: what's the difference?
[02:14] <zachb> ...or boot windows without a boot sector?
[02:14] <tvaughn> fail, i almost fell off my chair :(
[02:14] <n8tuser> CITguy-Hermes-> you want it displayed in the remote computer after you ssh'ed in to it?
[02:14] <raylu> CITguy-Hermes: or, rather, where do you want the gui to be displayed?
[02:14] <CITguy-Hermes> n8tuser: yes
[02:14] <jcmoffitt> I installed Ubuntu on my Dell Latitude E6500 but I can not get the wireless portion to work
[02:14] <raylu> any particular reason?
[02:14] <xiangfu> zachb: you can boot windows without a Windows MBR,
[02:15] <rww> CITguy-Hermes: try this: DISPLAY=":0" commandname
[02:15] <Jack_Smirnoff> zachb you can try the livecd option to boot the first hd
[02:15] <n8tuser> CITguy-Hermes-> umm i dont think thats easily done, and who do you expect on the other end to interact to it?
[02:15] <rww> CITguy-Hermes: not sure if it'll work, though
[02:15] <raylu> CITguy-Hermes: any particular reason?
[02:15] <koshar1> jcmoffitt care to be more specific
[02:16] <usser> n8tuser, its actually easy if the Xserver is running what rww said will work
[02:16] <raylu> !work | jcmoffitt
[02:16] <eseven73> CITguy-Hermes: you could try VNC
[02:16] <jcmoffitt> I guess the OS does not recognize the wireless card on the laptop
[02:16] <n8tuser> usser-> you sure? whose DISPLAY will own it at remote end?
[02:17] <koshar1> jcmoffitt you wanna rectify it or just summorise
[02:17] <jcmoffitt> eth0 works because I am using it to chat, the wireless network connection does not work, because the wifi light is not on.
[02:17] <usser> n8tuser, as i said if xserver is running there it gets display :0 so setting DISPLAY before running a command will cause to run on the local xserver display
[02:17] <Panarchy> better go now
[02:18] <Panarchy> don't want to slow down
[02:18] <Panarchy> remastersys
[02:18] <vaxius> jcmoffitt: look up your laptop on linux-lapatop.org or is it com?  anyway, you may find good info there on your laptop
[02:18] <raylu> jcmoffitt: iwconfig
[02:18] <n8tuser> usser-> setting the display before you can log on?  am not following
[02:18] <nibsa1242b> I have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/132106 .  Only solution seems to be compiling a custom kernel. Is this the most up to date guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile  ?
[02:19] <usser> n8tuser, ehm well i thought he meant he ssh'ed into the machine so he did login and if there's somebody logged in to the machine(past gdm, kdm) it will work :)
[02:20] <gatewaydrug> im trying to edit a .hosts file and it says that i dont have permision to do it... how is that so and how do i get it
[02:20] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: you've never compiled a custom kernel before?
[02:20] <eseven73> !sudo | gatewaydrug
[02:21] <mon^rch> how do I check if someone's been trying to ssh into my machine?
[02:21] <n8tuser> mon^rch-> look in the logs
[02:21] <vaxius> mon^rch: sshd log
[02:21] <jrib> mon^rch: /var/log/auth.log will log it
[02:21] <mon^rch> which ones? where?
[02:21] <gatewaydrug> i understand that, but im just clicking the save button, im not doing it in terminal, so where do i tell it sudo?
[02:21] <gatewaydrug> im using gedit
[02:21] <mon^rch> ty jrib
[02:22] <vaxius> gatewaydrug: sudo gedit .hosts
[02:22] <eseven73> gksudo gedit
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: have you ever compiled a custom kernel before?
[02:22] <aluink> what's going on with flash 64-bit?
[02:22] <zsquareplusc> !gksu > vaxius
[02:22] <Jack_Smirnoff> vaxius Please suggest gksudo gedit.. it is much safer
[02:22] <aluink> i can't find anything that's working
[02:22] <gatewaydrug> how do i go about that jack
[02:22] <Jack_Smirnoff> !flash64
[02:23] <raylu> gedit's configuration files don't really matter that much...sudo is fine :P
[02:23] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: not on Ubuntu... the last message says the bug might be fixed, I have to check
[02:23] <gatewaydrug> the hosts file isnt gedits, its VLCś
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: ok, roger
[02:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> gatewaydrug I really need to go.. but gksudo gedit path/file
[02:23] <raylu> gatewaydrug: we know. run the command anyway
[02:23] <vaxius> Jack_Smirnoff: it's a frontend to sudo and does the same thing
[02:23] <raylu> vaxius: not quite
[02:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> vaxius NO it is NOT
[02:24] <Viper550> Okay, how do I force VESA mode on the live CD?
[02:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> vaxius Please read the link provided
[02:24] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: last time I compiled a kernel I was using Red Hat/ Fedora years ago... and I remember it being not entertaining
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: oh. well, i like doing it! hehe
[02:24] <eseven73> Jack_Smirnoff=Jack_Sparrow?
[02:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> Viper550  xdrvr=vesa    is the command / boot modifier I use
[02:25] <Jack_Smirnoff> eseven73 YEa.. I must have a second xchat open..
[02:25] <SuNDeC> hi guys, i'm trying to install liveusb-creator on Ubuntu (to make a usb version of Fedora), but don't know where to start. anyone could give some help?
[02:25] <eseven73> ah
[02:25] <raylu> nibsa1242b: (onetinsoldier is a masochist)
[02:26] <koshar1> SuNDeC afaik the live creater amkes a build of the cussent version/
[02:26]  * onetinsoldier pats his nice 2.6.28-rc8-git2 kernel on the head
[02:26] <dietwater> Are there any programs to more easily modify gtk2 themes?
[02:26] <dietwater> GUI etc.
[02:26] <aluink> jack: it was running fine, and then it just stopped working, i think an update messed something up
[02:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> Take care..  need to get dinner started..
[02:26] <aluink> jack: this is FF2.0
[02:26] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: raylu I generally have more pressing things to do with my time. If I wanted to watch things compile, I'd run gentoo
[02:26] <delfick> hello, I just attempted to use dd to copy one parititon to another (did that right, and it was working) however, it's a massive drive and it was taking a very long time and dd has no verbosity at all. I ended up getting impatient and cancelling it. However by the looks of it, it was very close to finishing (trying to do anything with the resulting files comes up with errors to do with stale nfs or something). Is there a way to make dd only
[02:26] <aluink> i'm running 3.0
[02:27] <raylu> nibsa1242b: that's why, when running gentoo and/or compiling kernels, you let it run and do something else
[02:27] <SuNDeC> koshar1, i want to create a vesion of Fedora 10 on my flash drive, not Ubuntu. and the only OS i have is Ubuntu
[02:27] <eseven73> i'd never have the patience for Gentoo
[02:27] <lukedoomer> hi guys, I forgot a package/protocol, which allows hardware access thorugh network. could anybody remind me its name?
[02:27] <raylu> eseven73: i thought i did, twice. i was wrong, twice
[02:28] <eseven73> lol
[02:28] <nibsa1242b> delfick: you'd have to know EXACTLY where it stopped to resume from that point... you might be able to start further back from where you think it stopped and continue
[02:28] <raylu> lukedoomer: what kind of hardware?
[02:28] <onetinsoldier> lukedoomer:  iptables?
[02:28] <raylu> and here i was thinking sftp :P
[02:28] <lukedoomer> may be ide / sata device
[02:28] <onetinsoldier> lukedoomer:  perhaps i didn;t understand the question
[02:29] <raylu> perhaps the question was very poorly worded
[02:29] <lukedoomer> not iptables. I know vista has the functionality also
[02:29] <delfick> nibsa1242b: hmm, ok then. all I know how to use dd is "dd if=/dev/sda6 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1k", what do I do to start say three quarters into sda6?
[02:29] <nibsa1242b> raylu: onetinsoldier Alright onetin, if you are a masochist... maybe you can help me. I'm connecting a printer over a serial port by way of a usb-->serial port adapter.
[02:29] <koshar1> SuNDeC you may be able to do it using a vm
[02:29] <raylu> !zh | lukedoomer
[02:29] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: i know nothing about setting up printing. just an fyi
[02:29] <raylu> lukedoomer: sounds like samba
[02:29] <nibsa1242b> delfick: read the man page or a guide online; I forget exactly what it is and wouldn't want to steer you wrong
[02:29] <lukedoomer> sorry, thats all I can remember after a half year
[02:30] <delfick> nibsa1242b: ok then, thnx anyways :p
[02:30] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: thats fine.... just sounds masochistic doesn't it?
[02:30] <lukedoomer> not samba / nfs. it allows accessing hardware device directly
[02:30] <raylu> lukedoomer: the hard drive directly? sftp?
[02:31] <delfick> nibsa1242b: hmm, seek and skip options look about right
[02:31] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: yeah. years ago, with Red Hat, like you, i set up printing. i didn't enjoy it
[02:32] <lukedoomer> thanks guys, maybe I should look for more tips about it by myself
[02:32] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: yeah... well its an old printer... only has parallel & serial ports; no computers in my house have either type of port and I don't think ubuntu auto detects serial port printers.
[02:33] <dr_willis> serial port printer? EGADS....
[02:33] <dr_willis> Ubuntu did auto-detect my larallep port Laserjet6l and set it up
[02:33] <n8tuser> USB is serial
[02:33] <harushimo> it didn't work
[02:33] <eseven73> is symlinking folder A to backup folder B a decent or ok way to back things up? I know it doesn't compress or anything, but i figured its a "set-and-forget' way of backing things up...
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: roger that. yeah parallel port is dead. can't even buy a computer with one anymore it seems like.
[02:33] <SuNDeC> koshar1, ok, i will give it a try. installing virtualbox
[02:34] <dr_willis> callins usb 'serial' is like calling... a ModelT a 'race car' :)
[02:34] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: no, and serial ports have been long gone... but motherboards often have headers for them
[02:34] <raylu> eseven73: ..........
[02:34] <n8tuser> but it is serial .. usb is serial
[02:34] <raylu> eseven73: symlinking doesn't copy the data at all
[02:35] <eseven73> raylu: when i look in folder B it shows all the files
[02:35] <vaxius> dr_willis: usb: universal Serial bus
[02:35] <raylu> eseven73: right...it's a symlink. the files are still stored in one place
[02:35] <dr_willis> vaxius,  but ie said a serial port.. not usb.. so now everyone is confuse as to what he really has...
[02:35] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: yeah, i think the computer i'm using right which i just built about 6 weeks ago has header for a serial port.. but no port
[02:35] <aluink> where's a good place to put details on how to install flash-10 in 64-bit?
[02:35] <eseven73> ah gotcha raylu ok thanks :)
[02:35] <raylu> eseven73: that's why you can instantly symlink 1TB of data
[02:35] <vaxius> dr_willis: mkay
[02:35] <aluink> this was a pain in the ass and i'd like to let others know
[02:35] <jrib> aluink: just install teh flashplugin-nonfree package....
[02:36] <jrib> aluink: there are no pain in the ass details
[02:36] <raylu> aluink: let adobe know
[02:36] <aluink> jrib: doesn't work, the link in hte package gets a 404
[02:36] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: sounds right to me... its only because lots of hardware still uses serial ports on an enterprise level
[02:36] <dr_willis> I cant say that ive ever had miuch problems with se4tting up  printers under linux.. i mossed the original problem with the usb/serial  digression....
[02:36] <jrib> aluink: what version of ubuntu?
[02:36] <eseven73> raylu: ok i was wondering why it like instantly "transfered" my entire /home folder :)
[02:36] <eseven73> I guess ill stick with Unison and Rsync
[02:37] <aluink> jrib: i think what happened was when i ran dist-upgrade, it screwed it up
[02:37] <raylu> eseven73: scp isn't good enough for you?
[02:37] <Panarchy> Okay
[02:37] <Panarchy> Back now
[02:37] <aluink> the problem is that it gets a 404 on the tar.gz download, but marks the package as successfully installed, so you never know until you try to watch that fav youtube vid of yours ;)
[02:37] <evilGUI> doing a upgrade is never a good idea it's faster to backup your home directory and do a fresh install
[02:37] <Panarchy> &#$@!
[02:37] <jrib> aluink: yeah that happens when adobe moves around the tar.gz.  However, I don't think that's the case atm
[02:37] <aluink> jrib: how can i know what version of ubuntu i'm working?
[02:37] <Panarchy> It's 784.3MB
[02:37] <eseven73> raylu: never tried it, I just usually use Rsync and Unison to back everything up
[02:38] <tritium> aluink: lsb_release -a
[02:38] <jrib> !version | aluink
[02:38] <Panarchy> Arghhhhhhh!!!!
[02:38] <Panarchy> Does anyone know how I can clear space?
[02:38] <tritium> evilGUI: upgrades can be done successfully
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: ahhh, i see. this damn new thing has 6 usb ports on the rear and 4 on the front tho! sickening if you ask me.
[02:38] <raylu> Panarchy: delete everything.
[02:38] <aluink> 8.04.1 (Hardy)
[02:38] <evilGUI> tritium: I know
[02:39] <jrib> aluink: what version of the flashplugin-nonfree package?  (apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree)
[02:39] <aluink> jrib: well, atm, when i do apt-get install nonfree, i get a 404
[02:39] <rascal999> I've got a big problem, vista crashed so I powered down computer in partial rage. When I go to reboot it says, missing operating system followed by some jargon characters
[02:39] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: apt-get autoremove and apt-get clean. remove logs in /var/log (some files must be there, but they can be empty)
[02:39] <rascal999>  I install ubuntu and same message pops up, so boot sector is knackered, wat can I do?
[02:39] <aluink>  <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2
[02:39] <tritium> evilGUI: then don't say it's never a good idea
[02:39] <jrib> aluink: use the hardy-backports
[02:39] <evilGUI> rascal999: restore grub?
[02:39] <woden> What is the ftp client for Ubuntu?
[02:39] <rascal999> evilGUI: yes, how do I do this?
[02:40] <onetinsoldier> raylu: delete everything.   lol
[02:40] <jrib> !ftp | woden
[02:40] <evilGUI> tritium: it isn't unless you are willing to take the time to do it
[02:40] <eseven73> Filezilla is nice woden
[02:40] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: I have two on the front and 4 in the rear... and the sad thing is I've almost manged to fill them all up. [Keyboard, Mouse, thumbdrive, hardware key for a piece of software, external drive, camera, printer, scanner]
[02:40] <aluink> backports? how?
[02:40] <jrib> aluink: system -> administration -> software sources, check hardy-backports
[02:40] <evilGUI> rascal999: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/
[02:41] <aluink> jrib: i don't run gnome, terminal solution?
[02:41] <woden> jrib, eseven73, What is the default ftp client?  The official one for GNOME?
[02:41] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: omg.. you're sick! haha, j/k. well, if you have use for them i guess it's good they put that many on there
[02:41] <n8tuser> a good tip to know, if one is resizing a windows partition like ntfs, DO NOT remove or mess around with networking, it can possibly lock up or freeze and will corrupt windows partition
[02:41] <evilGUI> rascal999: while you are at it check to see if the partitions are still intact
[02:41] <jrib> aluink: copy a "hardy" line in your /etc/apt/sources.list and change "hardy" to "hardy-backports".  Then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:42] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: you don't send me the complete output... do you?
[02:42] <aluink> got it
[02:42] <aluink> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:42] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: I don't?
[02:42] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: yeah, well I built this and I knew I'd need a good number of them. I think I still have a free header on my mobo if I wanted two more. I also have a few firewire 400 ports I use too (DV camera).
[02:42] <FluxD> Hi, Is there a way to see when ubuntu system was installed?
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: i three of mine full time. but i do hook up a usb mem stick, usb hard drive, and then a camera at times
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> i use*
[02:42] <rascal999> evilGUI: I had iPod nano 1st in usb port...
[02:42] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: i was hoping you don't :-)
[02:43] <Panarchy> lol
[02:43] <aluink> put that above or below my regular hardy lines?
[02:43] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i was considering giving him the command to do it, but i felt i'd be shouted at for that
[02:43] <Panarchy> I want to remove Everything but my hacking tools, GNOME, terminal, xchat, firefox, wine & network capabilities
[02:43] <evilGUI> rascal999: ah
[02:43] <rascal999> I partitioned my entire hadd (including only legit version of vista)
[02:43] <rascal999> so I lost all my shit becuase of some fu
[02:43] <rascal999> I won't finish that
[02:43] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: cool, does sound like you're putting your system to good use then, cool
[02:43] <rascal999> I think I'm going to snap that ipod
[02:43] <tritium> !language | rascal999
[02:43] <aluink> jrib: above or below normal hardy lines in sources?
[02:43] <Panarchy> Rascal99: To recover, try testdisk
[02:44] <Panarchy> It's on the gparted liveCD
[02:44] <lukedoomer> :raylu thanks. I'll tell you what I look for once I find my memory
[02:44] <Panarchy> or you can apt-get it to your ubuntu livecd
[02:44] <nibsa1242b> onetinsoldier: yeah, it gets used a good bit... and right now its about to get rebooted into Win XP if I can't figure out how to add the serial printer
[02:44] <jrib> aluink: doesn't matter
[02:44] <evilGUI> rascal999: how could a iPod do that?
[02:44] <tritium> FluxD: yes -- look at the date of the log files in /var/log/installer/
[02:44] <aluink> jrib: k
[02:44] <rascal999> evilGUI: laptop tried to boot from it
[02:44] <rascal999> I assumed it was the harddisk on laptop
[02:44] <rascal999> AAAAHHH
[02:44] <onetinsoldier> nibsa1242b: roger that. winxp is allright by me
[02:45] <evilGUI> rascal999: mine does that every time I leave it plugged in and no problems odd
[02:45] <aluink> jrib: still fails
[02:45] <aluink> jrib: same problem
[02:45] <jrib> aluink: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree shows a new version?
[02:45] <FluxD> tritium, command to see date thru ssh?
[02:45] <Panarchy> BTW: My logfiles are only 5.9MB
[02:45] <Panarchy> all up
[02:45] <Panarchy> /var/log
[02:45] <raylu> FluxD: date
[02:45] <Panarchy> :\
[02:45] <aluink> jrib: yes
[02:45] <tritium> !enter | Panarchy
[02:46] <FluxD> raylu, date of a file
[02:46] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: Help me free up space please
[02:46] <tritium> FluxD: just ls -l /var/log/installer/
[02:46] <raylu> FluxD: ll or ls -l
[02:46] <jrib> aluink: check bugs.ubuntu.com, file a bug if one doesn't exist.  A new package will hit eventually
[02:46] <Panarchy> raylu: Help me free up space please
[02:46] <raylu> Panarchy: sudo rm -rf /
[02:46] <FluxD> thanks tritium raylu
[02:46] <aluink> jrib: k
[02:46] <Panarchy> raylu: lol
[02:46] <woden> How do I change Epiphany so that it does not try to login automatically to an ftp site as anonymous?
[02:46] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: i can't. but it boils down to removing packages. if you dont use OO.. that's a big one
[02:47] <tritium> raylu: stop that
[02:47] <hellhound> does anyone know of some plugin or setting for Evolution that will let me know when I have new email without having to keep Evolution running?
[02:47] <raylu> tritium: ?
[02:47] <evilGUI> Panarchy: use disk usage analyzer
[02:47] <n8tuser> im wanting to test two gateways, ie two separate routers accessing the internet, anyone got the working configs of two nics and two route tables they can share
[02:47] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: Which one is 00?
[02:47] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: open office
[02:47] <Panarchy> What's the command to order packages by size?
[02:47] <tritium> Panarchy: do *not* run what raylu just told you to do.
[02:47] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: Already had removed that one
[02:47] <raylu> tritium: he knows, and it was getting annoying
[02:47] <evilGUI> remove the games?
[02:47] <Panarchy> tritium: Thanks for the advice, but I already knew
[02:48] <Ash-Fox> What is a good movie editor? Preferibly something similar to windows movie maker?
[02:48] <FluxD> tritium, any other way?
[02:48] <Panarchy> Ash-Fox
[02:48] <dowN70> does anyone know how to disable the screen saver in ubuntu 8.10
[02:48] <raylu> Ash-Fox: do you...enjoy pain?
[02:48] <Panarchy> MediaBuntu
[02:48] <tritium> FluxD: that method will work
[02:48] <aluink> jrib: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/304969
[02:48] <Panarchy> or whatever the ubuntu media package is called
[02:48] <evilGUI> raylu: lol
[02:48] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: there are a number of them... biff is the original. are you looking for one for the gnome environment?
[02:48] <Ash-Fox> Panarchy, I don't want another ubuntu distro, just tell me the name of the software.
[02:48] <bazhang> !ot > raylu
[02:48] <FluxD> tritium, I have two boxes on ubuntu server 8.04, one was isntalled after the other and it has older files
[02:48] <Panarchy> sorry, can't think of it at the moment
[02:49] <Panarchy> anyone remember the name?
[02:49] <Panarchy> something like
[02:49] <dowN70> oes anyone know how to disable the screen saver in ubuntu 8.10
[02:49] <raylu> bazhang: i'm not offtopic...
[02:49] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install mediabuntu
[02:49] <tritium> !enter | Panarchy (for the second time)
[02:49] <Ash-Fox> raylu, no, but i don't really have anything other than Linux right now.
[02:49] <bazhang> Panarchy, dont use enter key as punctuation
[02:49] <tritium> FluxD: strange
[02:49] <Panarchy> Ash-Fox: That's fine, but you want the movie maker like program... right?
[02:49] <FluxD> tritium, so any other way :)
[02:50] <Ash-Fox> Panarchy, something that works with common formats, yes.
[02:50] <lukedoomer> well, just fyi, what I talked about is iSCSI
[02:50] <dowN70> does anyone know how to disable the screen saver in ubuntu 8.10
[02:50] <tritium> FluxD: do determine the date of install?  Inspect the log files in that same directory.
[02:50] <Panarchy> Ash-Fox: Can't think of the name now... sorry! Someone else help him!
[02:50] <lukedoomer> finally I got my memory
[02:50] <tvaughn> dowN70, system>preferences>screensaver
[02:50] <vaxius> dowN70: it's in your settings
[02:50] <Ash-Fox> Panarchy, I used to use kino, but God, that thing is horrible with the amount of conversions I had to do.
[02:50] <Panarchy> How do I sort packages by size?
[02:51] <hellhound> onetinsoldier:  yes i would like something for gnome
[02:51] <hu> ?
[02:51] <FluxD> tritium, same thing
[02:51] <hu> ...
[02:51] <dowN70> tvaughn: i cant find it
[02:52] <tvaughn> top of your screen
[02:52] <raylu> Panarchy: you'd have to sort the dependencies too
[02:52] <Panarchy> Ash-Fox: found this: http://www.osalt.com/premiere
[02:52] <tvaughn> it says System
[02:52] <tvaughn> click that preferences
[02:52] <n8tuser> im wanting to test two gateways, ie two separate routers accessing the internet, anyone got the working configs of two nics and two route tables they can share
[02:52] <tvaughn> screensaver
[02:52] <Panarchy> raylu: How do I sort packages by size
[02:52] <evilGUI> Kdenlive is sort of like windows movie maker
[02:52] <tvaughn> its in alphabetic order
[02:52] <dowN70> ok
[02:52] <hu> ...
[02:52] <raylu> Panarchy: it's really pointless
[02:52] <ampwyo> i'm getting a laptop from dell with ubuntu... is it worth going for 4gb ram instead of 3 or even 2, and worth 2.16ghz core 2 duo as opposed to 2.0...
[02:52] <Ash-Fox> Panarchy, that's software I used to use under windows, and it's windows only
[02:52] <raylu> ampwyo: depends on what you want to do with it, of course
[02:53] <Panarchy> Ash-Fox: Have a look under 'Open-Source Alternatives'
[02:53] <evilGUI> ampwyo depends on what you are doing for most people 3 is plenty
[02:53] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: i can't find the gnome one yet, but i have found... asmail, coolmail  ...still looking
[02:53] <tritium> FluxD: the dates in /var/log/installer/syslog should be accurate
[02:53] <Ash-Fox> Panarchy, oh, thought those were ads :P
[02:53] <Panarchy> also, if you really wanted to, run Premiere under WINE
[02:53] <Panarchy> lol
[02:53] <Ash-Fox> Windows codecs are really unstable under wine :<
[02:53] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: you might like  gbuffy
[02:53] <tvaughn> open source alternatives?
[02:53] <Panarchy> How do I sort packages by size?
[02:54] <FluxD> tritium, I think this is a modified kernel could be coz of that, so any other way you can think of?
[02:54] <tritium> FluxD: both methods I've given you are correct
[02:54] <dr_willis> ampwyo,  given how hard it is to upgrade the cpu.. if its ONE or the other.. id up the cpu.. ram is easier to upgrade later..    as for ram..    2 will proberly do ya.. but more is always better
[02:54] <tritium> FluxD: also, "coz" is not a word
[02:54] <Yoyoto> Hey Uhmm I cannot partition my harddrive using the linux CD
[02:55] <Ash-Fox> avidemux, haven't heard of that one. By the way, I recommend stayin away from Cinelerra - it's one of those "WTF" interfaces.
[02:55] <Yoyoto> my hard drive seems to be ntfs
[02:55] <hellhound> onetinsoldier:  do any of these work with evolution?  I am looking for something will will display an icon in the tray and change icon when there are messages and if I click the icon it brings up evolution.... i don't know why this is not a built in feature of Evolution like it is with kmail
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: geximon is another... and you might check out gdesklets, although i don't know if gdesklets has one or not
[02:55] <ampwyo> so none of the mythical performance decrease with more ram then
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: ahh, i see. now that i don'tknow
[02:55] <vaxius> Yoyoto: can't partition: errors?
[02:55] <raylu> ampwyo: what? i've never heard of that
[02:56] <Panarchy> How do I sort packages by size?
[02:56] <Yoyoto> Vaxius nope it just shows the entire drive as Full
[02:56] <Yoyoto> Vaxius: 50gb ARE free
[02:56] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: i do think many of them have a config file, an 'rc' file, whichyou can configure to start your mail program with when you double click on them
[02:56] <echinos> Ok, I have a sound issue - everything trying to use sound hung, so I ctrl-alt-bksp to restart X, opened rhythmbox, and it turned grey and hung
[02:56] <Panarchy> ampwyo: you speaking of the CPU>RAM thing?
[02:56] <bazhang> Panarchy, what is the point of that exercise
[02:56] <echinos> How do I tell what is going on?
[02:56] <Panarchy> bazhang: To free up space
[02:56] <Panarchy> How do I sort packages by size?
[02:57] <vaxius> Yoyoto: you need to resize the partition if it's filling the drive before you can create a new one
[02:57] <ampwyo> i think so
[02:57] <echinos> Panarchy: are they downloaded files, or do you mean with apt-cache search or something?
[02:57] <tritium> Panarchy: please stop repeating!
[02:57] <FluxD> tritium, I trust you but I know for sure 1 box is like 3 months older than the other and its files are older. Example 2008-05-14 10:46 <--- newer box  2008-07-22 12:26 <--- older box
[02:57] <ampwyo> i've read that unless i run 64 bit nothings going to recognize more than 3 gb anyways
[02:57] <fluffywarthog> beginner user: tried to add a TV monitor on Hardy, ATI MobRadeon x1400, now unable to get a higher max res than 800x600.
[02:58] <tvaughn> woohoo installed java only took a week
[02:58] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: ok, you need to look at this --> mail-notification-evolution
[02:58] <Yoyoto> Vaxius how do I do that?
[02:58] <echinos> Panarchy: Please reply to people when they respond to you after you repeat yourself!
[02:58] <echinos> ;)
[02:58] <Yoyoto> there is no partition currently
[02:58] <hellhound> onetinsoldier:  that is what I have already and it only seems to work while evolution is running
[02:58] <evilGUI> Panarchy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=602270
[02:58] <tritium> tvaughn: and it could have only taken a single command
[02:58] <tritium> !java | tvaughn
[02:59] <vaxius> Yoyoto: didn't you just say that you have one ntfs partition on it?
[02:59] <Yoyoto> no
[02:59] <kindofabuzz> how do i watch a log live?
[02:59] <tritium> kindofabuzz: tail -f /path/to/logfile
[02:59] <vaxius> Yoyoto: well, gparted is what i use
[02:59] <eseven73> tail -f /path/to/log
[02:59] <raylu> Panarchy: if you haven't run aptitude clean, ls -lS /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:59] <kindofabuzz> eseven73, thanks buddie
[02:59] <eseven73> np kindofabuzz but tritium beat me to it :D
[02:59] <tritium> raylu: that lists the size of the .deb files, not the unpacked size
[03:00] <gaelfx> I just ran apt-get -f install to fix some broken dependencies, but instead of offering to install the missing packages, it wants to remove things such as ubuntu-desktop, do I have to use synaptic to get the packages myself?
[03:00] <pagoda> -bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory
[03:00] <Yoyoto> Vaxius will that work for windows?
[03:00] <vaxius> Yoyoto: does fdisk -l list anything?
[03:00] <pagoda> i tried rebooting
[03:00] <raylu> tritium: i know \=
[03:00] <pagoda> google's suggestions didn't help,
[03:00] <raylu> tritium: it also doesn't list dependencies
[03:00] <pagoda> this is someone else's box so i don't know what he did
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> tritium, thanks buddie =)
[03:00] <tritium> raylu: which is not what he needs
[03:00] <n8tuser> im wanting to test two gateways, ie two separate routers accessing the internet, anyone got the working configs of two nics and two route tables they can share?
[03:00] <Yoyoto> Vaxius I'm trying to install ubuntu
[03:00] <pagoda> any ideas?
[03:00] <vaxius> Yoyoto: for windows partitions? yes, but you just said you don't have any ntfs partitions
[03:00] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: ok, i see. try one of the others then. like i said, they should let you know when you have new mail, and you should be able to configure it to fire up evolution when you click on it. sorry i can't be of much more help
[03:00] <Panarchy> echinos: Thanks evilGUI: Okay, I'll have a look there. raylu: I'll give that a go
[03:00] <tritium> kindofabuzz: no sweat
[03:00] <raylu> tritium: package size is irrelevant without dependencies also
[03:00] <Yoyoto> Vaxius: I currently only have windows
[03:00] <hadees> anyone know where I can get the install cd for ppc desktop?
[03:00] <echinos> Panarchy: np
[03:00] <tritium> Panarchy: that won't do what you want
[03:01] <vaxius> windows xp/vista?
[03:01] <hellhound> onetinsoldier:  np thank you for your help... i am readding into those now
[03:01] <vaxius> Yoyoto: windows xp/vista?
[03:01] <onetinsoldier> hellhound: ok, cool
[03:01] <Panarchy> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2605106 2008-10-30 06:46 ubiquity_1.10.10_i386.deb
[03:01] <tritium> !ppc | hadees
[03:01] <Yoyoto> Vaxius windows XP, know of a good way to partition?
[03:01] <Panarchy> Is that bytes or megabytes?
[03:01] <eseven73> bytes
[03:01] <tritium> Panarchy: use ls -lh for "human readable" ls output
[03:01] <Cool_Nick> Help,  I interupted ubuntu startup.  Now get "Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure".  Ran a forced fsck with clean results.  Problem remains
[03:01] <evilGUI> hadees: I have found fedora more reliable for PPC machines
[03:02] <echinos> Panarchy: use ls -alhSF for sorted biggest to smallest by size, with human readable output
[03:02] <vaxius> Yoyoto: k, then you have an ntfs partition; just resize it with gparted on the ubuntu livecd
[03:02] <|GaiJin|> is there a way to reset the pulse audio thingy... sometimes it seem to not work properly....
[03:02] <hadees> evilGUI, really? well this is for my little brother and he is pretty new to linux, i'm trying to find him a distro that will be easy
[03:02] <Yoyoto> Vaxius is that already on the CD?
[03:02] <tritium> Panarchy: but again, that will give you the size of the .deb packages, and *not* the total size of all the unpacked files
[03:02] <Panarchy> echinos and tritium, what'd you mean by human readable
[03:03] <tritium> Panarchy: just try it
[03:03] <Panarchy> I understood this
[03:03] <echinos> Panarchy: It will put 2.6MB instead of 26000000 bytes
[03:03] <Panarchy> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2605106 2008-10-30 06:46 ubiquity_1.10.10_i386.deb
[03:03] <Panarchy> ah
[03:03] <Panarchy> wow
[03:03] <Panarchy> thanks
[03:03] <FloodBot2> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:03] <Panarchy> I'll do that
[03:03] <evilGUI> hadees: yeah fedora isn't good for a first distro
[03:03] <tritium> Panarchy: you have been told about !enter *multiple* times
[03:03] <vaxius> Yoyoto: yes
[03:03] <vaxius> !dual-boot | Yoyoto
[03:03] <tvaughn> im gonna format my c drive soon remove bill gates influence from my computers
[03:03] <Yoyoto> Vaxius kk, Be back Later
[03:04] <Panarchy> Oh
[03:04] <kindofabuzz> tvaughn, that's the holiday spirit!
[03:04] <genii> tvaughn: You mean your /dev/sda drive ;)
[03:04] <tvaughn> someone told me good luck and i said you need luck to run windows
[03:04] <eseven73> Enter key is evil, Panarchy
[03:04] <evilGUI> everyone hates bill =(
[03:04] <Panarchy> 2.5MB is the biggest.... lol
[03:04] <tvaughn> its like please boot uppppp?
[03:04] <Panarchy> Well that's enough for me then
[03:04] <tritium> Panarchy: the size of the .debs is irrelevant, as I've told you several times
[03:04] <Panarchy> a few months ago on this channel
[03:04] <tvaughn> im cheap im getting my parents linux for the holidays :)
[03:04] <kindofabuzz> lol
[03:04] <echinos> Panarchy: if they are taking up too much space, run apt-get clean
[03:04] <Panarchy> someone told me a command (think it began with dpkg) that ordered all packages by size
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[03:05] <hadees> is the live cd what you install from?
[03:05] <kindofabuzz> best gift they could ever recieve!
[03:05] <fluffywarthog> anyone able to help reset screen res?
[03:05] <tvaughn> easier for me, then i dont have to fix windows every five seconds...
[03:05] <evilGUI> tvaughn: nice a lot less work for you =)
[03:05] <echinos> fluffywarthog: reset how, exactly?
[03:05] <Panarchy> echinos: Already ran autoclean, clean & autoremove
[03:05] <vaxius> Panarchy: man dpkg
[03:05] <tvaughn> exactly
[03:05] <tvaughn> my girlfriend is switching too
[03:05] <cuonglb> https://launchpad.net/gconf-tweak
[03:05] <Panarchy> vaxius: Removed manpages to save space...
[03:05] <Panarchy> lol
[03:05] <evilGUI> o.O
[03:05] <cuonglb> :D
[03:05] <cuonglb> join and dev with me
[03:05] <echinos> Panarchy: hard drives are pretty cheap these days, maybe get another?
[03:05] <FluxD> tritium, I trust you but I know for sure 1 box is like 3 months older than the other and its files are older. 2008-05-14 10:46 <--- newer box  2008-07-22 12:26 <--- older box any idea why ?
[03:05] <ewe2003> trying to access terminal server client for first time.  Where I find the domain/client hostname?
[03:05] <vaxius> Panarchy: good god why? o.O
[03:06] <tvaughn> you deleted the manual to save hd space?
[03:06] <tritium> FluxD: nope
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> echinos: are you sure that command shouldn't be   apt-cache clean?
[03:06] <Panarchy> echnios: It's not about that
[03:06] <fluffywarthog> echinos: I switched screens to add a TV, but lost maximum res, and am now stuck at 800x600
[03:06] <Panarchy> Making my own distribution
[03:06] <cuonglb> anybody dev with me
[03:06] <Panarchy> And need it to fit within 702MB
[03:06] <echinos> onetinsoldier: yes, you're right, my bad
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> echinos: np
[03:06] <tvaughn> buy dvds they hold more
[03:06] <echinos> fluffywarthog: try ctrl-alt-+
[03:06] <echinos> fluffywarthog: IE ctrl alt plus
[03:07] <Yoyoto> Vaxius: Could it be because my disk wasn't defragmented?
[03:07] <raylu> cuonglb: is this a gtk app?
[03:07] <robm06> Anyone here think Windows 7 is going to receive the same welcoming party Vista received when it showed up?
[03:07] <gaelfx> http://pastebin.com/d46aa75bd this is what I get when I run apt-get -f install, does this mean that I will have to use Synaptic to find the packages myself? or is there a better way to fix this?
[03:07] <pieps> fluffywarthog: if you've got an NVIDIA card and the NVIDIA proprietary driver installed, try nvidia-settings
[03:07] <tvaughn> a nice go away?
[03:07] <echinos> fluffywarthog: did you restart X and you got a lower res, or did it change while X was running?
[03:07] <tritium> robm06: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please
[03:07] <evilGUI> robm06: I think it's going to be like 2000 after me
[03:07] <vaxius> Yoyoto: could what be because your partition wasn't defragmented?
[03:08] <Yoyoto> Vaxius Because my entire drive but yeah
[03:08] <Yoyoto> OH
[03:08] <Yoyoto> could it have considered it all full because of that
[03:08] <benzap> I have a problem with apache server not resolving, the resulting virtualhost becomes localhost and the name-based virtual hosted sites will not work
[03:08] <ritowqi> how to just upgrade a single software?
[03:08] <vaxius> Yoyoto: you don't defrag entire drive, you defrag partitions
[03:08] <echinos> ritowqi: a single package, you mean?
[03:08] <ritowqi> i mean use apt-get
[03:08] <pieps> benzap: have you tried setting your hostname in /etc/hosts ?
[03:08] <vaxius> Yoyoto: anyway, what's the problem?
[03:08] <echinos> ritowqi: just apt-get <packagename>
[03:08] <fluffywarthog> echinos: any better shortcut? using a laptop keyboard, and there's no + key
[03:09] <echinos> ritowqi: If there is a newer version, it will be installed
[03:09] <echinos> ritowqi: but run apt-get update first
[03:09] <raylu> echinos: *install
[03:09] <echinos> fluffywarthog: you can do the minus key and it will go to the largest size after it goes past the smallest one
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> ritowqi: apt-get install <package>  ..if newer version is available.. it will install it
[03:10] <echinos> raylu: gah! what is up with my apt-fu? :/
[03:10] <echinos> little mush-headed, seems, I should shush up ;)
[03:10] <fluffywarthog> echinos: yeah...not working- using Hardy, ATI restricted drivers
[03:10] <Panarchy> So any more thought on how to save an extra 87MB of extra (squashfs) space so that my ISO will be the size of a CD?
[03:12] <Panarchy> So any more thought on how to save an extra 84MB of extra (squashfs) space so that my ISO will be the size of a CD?
[03:12] <bazhang> Panarchy, dont repeat
[03:12] <tritium> !repeat | Panarchy (again)
[03:12] <tritium> Panarchy: you rarely pay attention...
[03:13] <ritowqi> thank you all
[03:13] <patrick_farrelly> help, i am experiencing a problem with X... i am using kubuntu on a laptop and shutdown "save the system to ram"
[03:13] <patrick_farrelly> now, when i restart, no matter recovery or which kernel, X can not start
[03:13] <patrick_farrelly> "read-only filesystem"
[03:14] <patrick_farrelly> */usr/bin/startx: line 158: cannot create temp file for here document: read only file sy*stem
[03:15] <maddash> hi, how do I get my firefox to display chinese characters? for instance, right now I can only see boxes with numbers inside of them when I visit http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en#en|zh-CN|me
[03:16] <scientes> how do i fix it when mdadm fs up my drives http://pastie.org/private/iuz75bzvrdifh9xzhighbg
[03:16] <raylu> !info language-support-fonts-zh
[03:17] <Cool_Nick> I interupted my ubuntu startup.  Now get "Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure".  Ran a forced fsck on my partitions with clean results.  Problem remains
[03:18] <ewe2003> can anyone help me with setting up the terminal server client?
[03:19] <vaxius> !info tsclient | ewe2003
[03:20] <ty> hello
[03:20] <ty> people
[03:20] <ewe2003> its asking for domain and clienthost name.  where would i find those?
[03:20] <ty> does any1 know how to make custom error messages in apache2
[03:20] <pieps> ewe2003: what exactly are you looking for?
[03:21] <pieps> ewe2003: the client hostname is the hostname or ip address of the computer you want to connect to
[03:21] <Satisfied> is there a 64bit release of firefox for ubuntu ?
[03:21] <raylu> Cool_Nick: when does the error appear and can you mount the partition from a livecd?
[03:21] <pieps> domain is the domain on which the computer resides (if one exists)
[03:22] <ty> can someone see if this irc server works tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 channel #test just type tyspage.doesntexist.com/6667 in the server for xchat
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: do you know the IP address of the terminal server machine?
[03:22] <rosebuntu> hi~!!
[03:22] <rosebuntu> there is no talk in ubuntu-motu
[03:23] <rosebuntu> i want to be MOTU
[03:23] <Xavier> hey all
[03:23] <tritium> rosebuntu: you'll have to wait for a response in #ubuntu-motu
[03:23] <rosebuntu> okay
[03:25] <ewe2003> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:25] <Xavier> i'm trying to setup dual monitors with an ATI card - just need separate X screens
[03:25] <Xavier> running ubuntu 8.10
[03:25] <ty> Xavier: do you know how to setup compiz on ati?
[03:26] <Xavier> yeap
[03:26] <ty> ok
[03:26] <pieps> ewe2003: that would be the hostname that it's asking for
[03:26] <Xavier> why you ask?
[03:26] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: try dig -x IP address  ...lloks like the hostname is --> c-76-27-100-234.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
[03:26] <ty> im gonna buy a new hp laptop with an ati
[03:26] <vaxius> !dual-head | Xavier
[03:26] <onetinsoldier> looks*
[03:26] <ty> and i just wanted to know how
[03:26] <Xavier> xinerama doesn't work with aTI ;)
[03:26] <ty> what is that?
[03:27] <ewe2003> and my domain name is just my wireless name?... total nube
[03:27] <Xavier> it's a term used for dual monitor setups with an nvidia card
[03:27] <vaxius> Xavier: so don't use it
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: nslookup <IP_ADDRESS>  domain --> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:27] <Zzeiss> Anybody here have a Hauppauge HVR-950q USB tuner stick working under 8.10?
[03:27] <ty> i just want wobbly windows, desktop cube, draw fire, and water effect
[03:27] <Anacranom> ty, couldnt pay me enough to...
[03:27] <ty> do what?
[03:27] <tritium> !xrandr | Xavier
[03:27] <Xavier> ty: that'll all work fine =)
[03:27] <ty> ok
[03:28] <ty> does the cube look crisp?
[03:28] <Anacranom> ty, get a hp with ati? nope i couldnt do it
[03:28] <tritium> Zzeiss: are you certain it's supported on linux?
[03:28] <pieps> eegh HP?
[03:28] <ty> is setting up compiz easy on ati's?
[03:28] <Xavier> ty: haven't tested the cube yet, more interested in gaming atm - Prey works great, but i'm trying to get it in only one screen
[03:28] <pieps> my experiences with HP laptops have been less than stellar (and good luck getting a decent warranty)
[03:29] <Zzeiss> tritium: there are two web pages claiming it does, and giving howtos.  Neither works, and several other pages say that it used to work, but no longer.
[03:29] <Xavier> ty: compiz works right out of the box with 8.10
[03:29] <ty> but is compiz setting up easy on an ati?
[03:29] <ty> oh
[03:29] <ewe2003> error channel_register error getaddrinfo name or service not known....
[03:29] <ty> what about 8.04, ill never go 8.10 again
[03:29] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: if you don't have the 'nslookup' and 'dig' commands, you'll need to install the dnsutils package
[03:29] <tritium> Zzeiss: linuxtv.org would be where I'd check to be certain
[03:29] <Zzeiss> ty: If your mobo has intel graphics, it _will_ run compiz just fine.
[03:30] <Zzeiss> tritium: OK, lemme check there.  Thanks!
[03:30] <pieps> ewe2003 - you might not need the domain...
[03:30] <ty> ok
[03:30] <ewe2003> dnsutils package.  okay.  i'm running from a bootup disk.  would that make any difference?
[03:31] <ty> i need to know if ati and compiz work out of the box in ubuntu 8.04 though
[03:31] <CaneToad> on ubuntu 8.10, what do you do when the CUPS web on http://localhost:631/ asks you for a username/password?
[03:31] <vaxius> ty: yes
[03:31] <ty> do you need xserver-xgl for compiz to work, i did on my older laptop to get compiz working
[03:31] <ty> but my old laptop had a bad graphics chip, lol
[03:32] <raylu> CaneToad: provide your account's combination
[03:32] <Leewings> I set a new proxy for apt, must I run "apt-get update" again?
[03:32] <cuonglb> ty: hehe
[03:32] <axisys> i have a ubuntu client and a ubuntu server.. according to setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0123] my client has ttyS0 and ttyS2 as active serial devices, and ubuntu server has ttyS0 and ttyS1 as serial device
[03:32] <vaxius> ty: no, ati has supported aiglx for a while now
[03:32] <axisys> but i cannot serial connect from client to server
[03:32] <ty> i could play movies great but compiz sucked
[03:32] <Panarchy> So any more thought on how to save an extra 84MB of extra (squashfs) space so that my ISO will be the size of a CD?
[03:32] <ty> ok
[03:32] <axisys> i am using minicom and picked /dev/ttyS0 on client side and all defaults
[03:32] <tritium> Leewings: no
[03:32] <hellhound> does anyone know how to have the "mail-notification" icon always display... i looked in the "status icon" tab in the properties but all i see are "Click Action"
[03:32] <cuonglb> ty: i'm using IBM T42 with ATI RADEON 32MB and compiz very well
[03:32] <ty> ok
[03:32] <Panarchy> What's the shortcut keys for compiz?
[03:33] <ty> did you have to do anything other than install compiz?
[03:33] <Leewings> Tritium: THX
[03:33] <axisys> i can connect to other servers at work.. but w/ same laptop i am trying to connect to my ubuntu server
[03:33] <ty> and restart graphics server?
[03:33] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: so you're running from a livecd? does it have dnsutils installed? if not, i doubt that you can install any packages on a livecd
[03:33] <axisys> how do I debug?
[03:33] <cuonglb> ty : lolz :D
[03:33] <ty> you can install packages on live cd
[03:33] <vaxius> Panarchy: just look through the compiz settings
[03:33] <ty> ive done it
[03:33] <onetinsoldier> ty: oh! thanks.. good to know
[03:33] <Panarchy> yes
[03:33] <Panarchy> but what's the default
[03:34] <droopsta915> what is a .wmc file?
[03:34] <tritium> !enter | Panarchy (for the tenth or so time)
[03:34] <harushimo> hey I'm trying to do ATI Big desktop
[03:34] <ty> thanks
[03:34] <Panarchy> So... what do I need this package for
[03:34] <Panarchy> python-uno
[03:34] <harushimo> where they give the options, do that goes under the generic video card or monitors
[03:35] <ewe2003> onetinsoldier.  yeah its a livecd.  just been using the gui for a few days. long term ms user.  from a gui where would i find if the livecd has dnsutils?
[03:35] <ty> bye Linux friends, you better never go windows again
[03:35] <vaxius> !info python-uno | Panarchy
[03:35] <cuonglb> sexy-python :D
[03:35] <Xavier> anyone familiar with the null command for X?  i know it works with nvidia cards to get games playing in 1 monitor if you have dual monitors
[03:35] <harushimo> !ATI
[03:36] <ty> bye
[03:36] <Xavier> i'm curious if there is such a command for ATI users
[03:36] <axisys> ok let me break down the problem.. how do I know my laptop's side com port is /dev/ttyS0 or S2?
[03:36] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: 'ty' says that you can install packages on a livecd... so to see if it's installed you check with dpkg with the following command...   dpkg -l dnsutils
[03:36] <veltsu> ok so I'm back. Acer 5100 trying to resist my interest in ubuntu 8.10. How to get my sound card working?
[03:36] <vaxius> axisys: plug something into it while watching syslog
[03:36] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: if it's not installed, then try to install with the following command..  apt-get install dnsutils
[03:37] <Xavier> ubuntu 8.10 is officially 50X better then vista or XP
[03:37] <Xavier> i suppose everyone here knows that already though hahaha
[03:37] <eseven73> lets hope so
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: for a gui... use the 'synaptic package manager'
[03:38] <Panarchy> vaxius: Thanks for that
[03:38] <ewe2003> ok.  going there now.
[03:38] <tritium> Panarchy: please mind !enter from now on, and pay more attention, in general
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: whic is found here... System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:38] <Panarchy> I've rebuilt ubuntu from scratch a great many times. This time I forgot to remove OpenOffice, LOL! Going to easily save the space I need now!
[03:39] <dowN70> can anyone help me schedule a reboot?
[03:39] <hellhound> does anyone know how to have the "mail-notification" icon always display... i looked in the "status icon" tab in the properties but all i see are "Click Action"
[03:39] <luv_cute> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:39] <dowN70> can anyone help me schedule a daily reboot?
[03:39] <ewe2003> k. i'm there. looking for dnsutils
[03:40] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: ok, cool
[03:40] <raylu> dowN70: have you looked into the crontab?
[03:40] <vaxius> dowN70: is there a reason you need to restart every day?
[03:40] <Panarchy> Well thanks for all the help
[03:40] <droopsta915> any good ubuntu books for beginners out?
[03:40] <dowN70> its a digital signage workstation
[03:40] <Panarchy> Gonna do another Remastersys ISO creation, then I'll tell you how many MB I have
[03:41] <eseven73> yeah restarting is pretty much a windows concept, not really needed in Linux
[03:41] <jrib> droopsta915: help.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <dowN70> whats a crontab?
[03:41] <parthbakshi> hardy machine to 8.10 ,i had amarok 1.4 installed ,when i upgrded the amarok did not get updated ,so i checked in synaptic it sats 2.x.x version has been installed however when i run amarok i get the old version only
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: so, are you in Utah? i'm in Colorado here... very very cold here right now!
[03:41] <raylu> !cron | dowN70
[03:41] <cidesign> dowN7o: scheduler
[03:41] <vaxius> !cron | dowN70
[03:41] <parthbakshi> any idea how to make new version amarok work
[03:41] <Xavier> anyone here running a newer ATI card with dual monitors?
[03:41] <Insane_> I am having a problem with installation of ubuntu 8.04, when ever i start installation or do the demo run the scrolling load bar gets to about 2 and a half to 3 bars then stops
[03:41] <tritium> Xavier: see the !xrandr info, please
[03:41] <Xavier> yeah i did
[03:41] <droopsta915> jrib: I want something for on the go. That's why I want a book, thanks for the advice though.
[03:41] <cidesign> dowN70: runs regular scripts/ task
[03:42] <Xavier> there a problem with me seeking help here?
[03:42] <ewe2003> found it.  says its installed already
[03:42] <earthmeLon> Anybody have a suggestion as how to automatically filter mail that has stupid time-stamps.  Like, stuff from 2045 or 1987?
[03:42] <vaxius> Xavier: just use the ati catalyst control center
[03:42] <dowN70> im a big newbie, i just need some instructions
[03:42] <ewe2003> 1.9.50
[03:42] <cidesign> dowN70: man crontab
[03:42] <axisys> vaxius: hmm.. i am plugging /unplugging.. nothing shows up in /var/log/messages
[03:42] <tritium> vaxius: or, if you use the open-source ati driver, use the Screen Resolution applet
[03:43] <cidesign> dowN70: google also has plenty of examples;
[03:43] <dowN70> ill try google
[03:43] <Xavier> vaxius: CCC works great, but for some reason "dual monitor" is not showing up in the list only "big monitor" or "clone" shows up
[03:43] <Insane_> anyone have a solution to my problem
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: ok. roger that.. so open up an Xterm(command line) if you don't have one open already
[03:44] <vaxius> Xavier: i wold say big monitor
[03:44] <sweetgum> how can i add something my PATH?
[03:44] <parthbakshi>  i had ubuntu 8.04 and had amarok 1.4 installed on it ...then i upgrded my machine to 8.10
[03:44] <parthbakshi>  in synaptic it says amarok version 2.x.x is installed however i still get the old version when i start amarok
[03:44] <parthbakshi>  any idea whats going on?
[03:45] <Xavier> vaxius: big monitor is the equivelant to xinerama which is fine for browsing on the net etc - but if i want to game i need separate X screens
[03:45] <onetinsoldier> parthbakshi: what does dpkg say is installed?   dpkg -l amarok
[03:46] <onetinsoldier> parthbakshi: it should say the same things as synaptic... but just checking
[03:46] <vaxius> axisys: i guess just try whatever you're doing with each device until one works, i don't work with serial that often
[03:46] <vaxius> Xavier: should stay on one monitor (it does on mine)
[03:46] <ewe2003> well, haven't figuered out how to pull up the command line......  ha.
[03:47] <Xavier> vaxius: i read in an article that ATI used to have an option for "dual monitor" along with "big monitor" - just trying to figure out why mine done
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> ewe2003: ok, try   Application --> Accessories --> Terminal
[03:47] <Xavier> err *don't
[03:47] <DiscoPymp> Hi all
[03:47] <axisys> vaxius: thnx
[03:47] <ewe2003> ya.  terminal server is what's getting me.
[03:47] <parthbakshi> ontinsoldier: 2:1.4.10-0ubun
[03:48] <parthbakshi> onetinsoldier: 2:1.4.10-0ubun
[03:48] <aeos> how do i change the gnome-panel's 'always on top' behavior? i'm using both gnome-panel and the AWN dock, and would like awn to be on top
[03:48] <raylu> sweetgum: export PATH="$PATH:/foo/bar"
[03:48] <raylu> sweetgum: see ~/.bashrc
[03:48] <Xavier> vaxius: i just installed Prey with that new installer that was created, when i start it though it's as if i have "clone monitors"  but what's worse is in the second monitor the graphics look all garbled
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> parthbakshi: that's what you have installed then.. is that not what version of amarok that runs?
[03:48] <Flare183> aeos: You could just autohide the gnome-panel
[03:48] <parthbakshi> onetinsoldier:nope
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> parthbakshi: are you in kde?
[03:49] <parthbakshi> onetinsoldier:it runs amarok 1.4
[03:49] <vaxius> Xavier: idk, i know there's an aticonfig option for it
[03:49] <parthbakshi> onetinsoldier:nope
[03:49] <aeos> Flarel183: I'd like both of them visible
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> parthbakshi: i am not sure that the 2: is... but the version of amarok is...  1.4.10-0ubun
[03:49] <parthbakshi> im in gnome
[03:49] <Insane_> I am having a problem with installation of ubuntu 8.04, when ever i start installation or do the demo run the scrolling load bar gets to about 2 and a half to 3 bars then stops
[03:49] <Xavier> vaxius: yeh i was trying to play around with that earlier - i guess i'm just gonna have to wait till a better driver comes out or something
[03:50] <FAJ> Insane_:  sounds like a bad disk.
[03:50] <raylu> parthbakshi: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[03:50] <Xavier> that or i'll switch back to my 8800gts OC
[03:50] <FAJ> Insane_:  run 'check disc for errors' at the start screen.
[03:50] <Insane_> FAJ: Well i also have a second disk with 8.10 and tried that and did same thing
[03:50] <cidesign> dowN70: Sorry stepped away. Why is it you need to restart your computer daily?
[03:50] <FAJ> Insane_:  try checking the discs
[03:51] <onetinsoldier> raylu: wth is that 2: ??  amarok  2:1.4.10-0ubun
[03:51] <Insane_> It said it didnt find any errors
[03:51] <br3nden> What technology would allow Windows accounts to have a shared drive on a Linux server?
[03:51] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i've been wondering that for long time
[03:51] <FAJ> Insane_:  computer?
[03:51] <Insane_> I can run it without the splash and find out the error and come back
[03:51] <aeos> Can I set the gnome-panel to be 'always below'?
[03:51] <FAJ> convenient ;)
[03:51] <Xavier> that's how most servers are run right now br3nden ;)
[03:51] <Insane_> be back soon
[03:51] <cuonglb> raylu : amarok 2.0 very well for me, listerning andy williams :D
[03:52] <vaxius> !samba | br3nden
[03:52] <FAJ> aeos:  you can delete it?
[03:52] <br3nden> Vaxius:  Thank you.
[03:52] <vaxius> br3nden: np
[03:53] <Xavier> sorry for the bother, thanks for responding politely vaxius
[03:53] <aeos> FAJ: I want to keep it
[03:53] <FAJ> aeos:  you can have it scroll off to the side.
[03:54] <aeosynth> FAJ: I want it always visible. I only have a problem when it conflicts with my AWN dock, otherwise it's great
[03:54] <spanther> i can't read out my dvd :( it says error while reading from file: input/output error  :(
[03:54]  * aeosynth just switched clients
[03:54] <sunny> Moving 70gigs from ext3 --> NTFS, both 3gbps 7200rpm HD's moving @ 4mb's per second. :-(
[03:54] <raylu> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+publishinghistory
[03:55] <FAJ> aeosynth: then why do you want to hide it permenently???
[03:55] <raylu> onetinsoldier: ^
[03:55] <\Kira> whats a graphical FTP client for ubuntu?
[03:55] <vaxius> spanther: if it's a movie, you might want to check out libdvdcss
[03:55] <FAJ> !ftp
[03:55] <spanther> vaxius: installed libdvdcss allready
[03:55] <cidesign> Kira: gftp
[03:55] <\Kira> Thanks
[03:55] <aeosynth> FAJ: I don't want to hide it, I just want it underneath my AWN dock
[03:55] <raylu> \Kira: also, filezilla :D
[03:55] <cidesign> Kira: np
[03:55] <\Kira> Yep, I got a list now :)
[03:55] <FAJ> aeosynth:  so you want it smaller?
[03:55] <Anacranom> \Kira, filezilla is in the repos
[03:56] <vaxius> spanther: is there anything more to the error?
[03:56] <willyyxx> Hi, anyone in this channel know about the dedicated Cobalt Raq4 servers? I just got one but need help for configuration. Thank you.
[03:56] <FAJ> you can either raise your awn dock up... or have the other bar autohide, and not come out for a longer time,,, if that makes snes?
[03:56] <\Kira> Anacranom: yeah, I think ill go with konquorer, since I already have it :) didnt know it did ftp
[03:56] <spanther> vaxius: its an input/output error
[03:56] <cidesign> \Kira: gftp is in the repository
[03:56] <aeosynth> FAJ: no >.<
[03:56] <srbaker> heya folks
[03:56] <aeosynth> I have the gnome-panel and awn both at the bottom of my screen. when i mouse over the gnome-panel, it hides the bottom half of my awn dock. i don't want it to hide that.
[03:56] <srbaker> i have 2 500G drives
[03:57] <vaxius> spanther: is that all you get?
[03:57] <spanther> vaxius: maybe because of a hard copy protection
[03:57] <spanther> vaxius: yes
[03:57] <srbaker> i want to just put them together in one big chunk.  do i have to install with -alternate and manually set up LVM for that?
[03:57] <FAJ> aeosynth:  ok well then set your AWN to be at the front always.....
[03:57] <Anacranom> \Kira, any browser will.. thought you wanted graphical ... realtime
[03:57] <onetinsoldier> raylu: than you for the link! going to read it now
[03:57] <telaviv> fun question from a hardware noob: if 32 bit architectures have 4 gigs of address space, how can a processor have greater than 4 gigs of ram?
[03:57] <earthmeLon> My screen flashes for half a second every once in a while.  Any ideas why?
[03:57] <vaxius> spanther: do most other dvds work?
[03:57] <spanther> vaxius: depending on dvd
[03:58] <aeosynth> FAJ: Do you know how to that? AWN is less popular than gnome, so I was asking for the equivalent, making gnome-panel stay always on bottom
[03:58] <dowN70> can anyone help me schedule a daily reboot?
[03:58] <willyyxx> Anyone in this channel knows about the dedicated Cobalt Raq4 servers? I just got one but need help for configuration. Thank you.
[03:58] <\Kira> Anacranom: I just needed to upload a file, without the CLI. Its only once, so I think konquorer will suffice. Thanks, though
[03:58] <FAJ> aeosynth:  o AWN has an option to keep always on top in preferences.
[03:58] <hosstell> anyone know of a way to print batch jobs of pictures and if so how to change how many pictures per photo paper? (i.e. 4 pictures at 4x6 or 3 at 5x8 on a single sheet).
[03:58] <srbaker> dowN70: don't know how to do that on windows;  dunno why you'd want to on anything else :P
[03:58] <FAJ> !anyone
[03:58] <eseven73> telaviv: ram and harddrive memory are two very different things
[03:58] <vaxius> spanther: maybe you don't have your dvd region set?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[03:59] <dowN70> can anyone help me schedule a daily reboot?
[03:59] <djet13> Hello all. Quick question here regarding installing. I am attempting to install on a Macbook using a CD. However, once I boot from the CD I am confronted with this image.
[03:59] <djet13> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=14628&d=1156128825
[03:59] <B_L> quelqu'un peut m'aider avec XCFA   je ne suis pas capable de l'installer
[03:59] <spanther> vaxius: how to set this?
[03:59] <dowN70> can anyone help me schedule a daily reboot?
[03:59] <telaviv> eseven73 hmmmm, i'll look into it
[03:59] <vaxius> spanther: follow link in previous post
[04:00] <raylu> onetinsoldier: heh, i didn't get anything out of it
[04:00] <FAJ> !patience dowN70
[04:00] <FAJ> !patience | dowN70
[04:00] <FAJ> dowN70: use the command gnome-power-cmd.sh shutdown   and set it to run at x hour during the day
[04:00] <aeosynth> faj: I'm looking at the preferences right now and don't see it. There is an option 'maximized windows don't cover the bar', but that doesn't help with gnome-panel because I guess it's not a window.
[04:00] <cidesign> djet13: Are you booting off the cd?
[04:00] <onetinsoldier> raylu: haha... me neither!
[04:00] <eseven73> telaviv: in short the 4 gigs of ram are just temporary storage, where as the harddrive memory is long term
[04:00] <Hackerlife> kk g2g
[04:00] <cidesign> djet13:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[04:01] <FAJ> aeosynth: hmmm,, i could have swore there is one in there somewhere! sorry i don't personally use it...
[04:01] <hosstell> FAJ: Either answer the question that dowN70 is asking or dont say anything at all.  Spamming !commands are about as useless as this sentence.
[04:01] <spanther> vaxius: copying with sudo mc (midnight commander) showed "Input/output error (5)" too well lets check your page
[04:01] <FAJ> hosstell:  i would debate you on that,,, but not the right place to do so.
[04:01] <djet13> cidesign: Yeah i've seen that before and was intending to use that. But I have not even been able to reach step 6, as I cannot get past that error.
[04:01] <hosstell> FAJ: OMG, I am just stoked you actually wrote me a sentence.
[04:01] <aeosynth> faj: well, do you know anything about how to change the gnome-panel options?
[04:02] <FAJ> !why? | hosstell
[04:02] <FAJ> ;)
[04:02] <hosstell> >.<
[04:02] <hosstell> :P
[04:02] <eseven73> lol
[04:02] <raylu> -.-
[04:02] <onetinsoldier> -_-
[04:02] <telaviv> eseven73 but still how can a program have acess to 7 gigs of information when the numbers representing their pointers can only describe 4 gigs worth of addresses
[04:02] <cidesign> djet13: have you installed rEfit
[04:02] <FAJ> aeosynth: you could set your gnome-bar to auto-hide longer so that it doesn't unhide when you accidentally unclick it
[04:02] <djet13> cidesign: yes
[04:02] <raylu> telaviv: what is a memory leak?
[04:02] <spanther> vaxius: i didnt install libdvdread3 so far :-) maybe thats it?
[04:02] <Anacranom> um,,, i've been booted for less, lol
[04:03] <cidesign> djet13: if so then put the cd in and boot up normally. You should them be presented with 2 options one for osx and one for cd
[04:03] <telaviv> raylu: when memory is taken from the heap without ever being returned
[04:03] <Gruelius> Hi all, how do i check/change the power status of ->SATA<- harddisks? Thanks
[04:03] <cidesign> djet13: Using arrow keys click on cd and go for it.,
[04:04] <hosstell> I am looking for a way to print multiple pictures on a single photo sheet of paper.  Anyone know how to do this?
[04:04] <aeosynth> faj: I don't want it to autohide; i want the gnome-panel and awn dock visible simultaneously
[04:04] <Gruelius> Ive tried hdparm and it wont work properly for the sata disks, and sdparm doesnt work full stop
[04:04] <djet13> cidesign: lol I know that. what i'm saying is once i do that, i get this error message in ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=14628&d=1156128825
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> Gruelius: install hdparm   ...then hdparm -C /dev/xxx