[04:19] <legomaster181> Mikel: As far as an official dualboot, there is none.  However, there is something called MultiRom that supports it
[04:19] <legomaster181> want a link?
[04:19] <jbooth> sgtkwol: Camera uses rotation. I went into its qml to examine how it was getting useful sensor data.
[04:19] <Mikel> Please
[04:19] <Namidairo> somewhere in the 6gb range?
[04:19] <jbooth> Sorry: orientationsensor
[04:20] <legomaster181> Mikel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[04:20] <legomaster181> it works with regular roms as well as Ubuntu
[04:20] <androidmart> adb devices keeps showing offline. have adb 1.0.31. Nexus Galaxy never prompts me to allow USB debugging.
[04:20] <Mikel> Cheers
[04:20] <Mikel> Will I have to reflash touch?
[04:21] <legomaster181> You've already flashed the dev release?
[04:21] <wayland> does ddoes anyone know if ubuntu touch is using X or Wayland or something else?
[04:21] <wastrel> so i fixed qtcreator but qmlscene is still broken
[04:21] <Mikel> Yes
[04:21] <legomaster181> Mikel: if you've already flashed Ubuntu Touch, you'll have to reflash android first, I don't know if it will work with ubuntu touch
[04:22] <Mikel> Ok Thanks!
[04:22] <Xiao-Long> wayland: It's using libhybris
[04:22] <napster> multirom look useful, ty legomaster181
[04:22] <legomaster181> no problem.
[04:22] <androidmart> Galaxy Nexus 4.2.2 never prompts me to allow USB debugging.
[04:22] <legomaster181> As for dualbooting Ubuntu Touch there's instruction on the 125th page I think
[04:23] <Xiao-Long> wayland: https://github.com/stskeeps/libhybris It allows Android's bionic drivers to be used on glibc systems
[04:23] <napster> 4.2.2 is supposed to show host key accept dialog on flashing androidmart
[04:24] <androidmart> napster, it new show me the prompt to accept the host key. I have adb 1.0.31
[04:25] <androidmart> napster, I meant to say it never prompts me to accept the host key.
[04:26] <napster> ok :)
[04:26] <vanhoof> androidmart: unplug/replug after enabling usb debugging
[04:26] <wayland> Xiao-Long: so does libhybris allow it to use Android's display server? or is X.org still used through libhybris?
[04:27] <androidmart> vanhoof: I have done that a few times already, but nothing.
[04:27] <legomaster181> Any idea why my device isn't recognized in adb with the Ubuntu Touch installed?
[04:27] <ErikZ> heh. "If nobody is here..."
[04:27] <ErikZ> I'm amazed that IRC is still popular...
[04:27] <legomaster181> It is pretty useful
[04:27] <wastrel> qmlscene gives me the error  module "Ubuntu.Components" is not installed
[04:27] <napster> lol, it always was
[04:28] <Xiao-Long> wayland: It uses neither X.org nor Android's display server. They wrote a platform plugin for Qt5, so Qt interfaces directly with the graphics drivers
[04:28] <ErikZ> It's old school, like me. So I think it's cool that people still use it. Anyway, does anyone know if they are planning on porting to the Tab II?
[04:29] <Hashcode> I'm running some test builds of the Touch Preview from source.. any idea how big this .zip is supposed to be?
[04:29] <msarchet> Hi I'm trying to flash my galaxy nexus and it appears to be freezing on pushing to autodeply
[04:29] <msarchet> any thoughts?
[04:29] <vanhoof> androidmart: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_3_-_Initial_Device_Setup
[04:29] <legomaster181> ErikZ: as far as I know, the only devices it's available for is the nexus line.  However, I did see somewhere in Ubuntu's wiki there is to be a port-a-thon soon.
[04:29] <vanhoof> """
[04:29] <vanhoof> On the workstation-> adb kill-server; adb start-server
[04:29] <vanhoof> """
[04:29] <juicyjones> porting documentation comes tomorrow
[04:29] <Namidairo> port-a-thon. like port-a-potty.
[04:30] <Hashcode> Why wait for docs?  I picked the tab II because it seemed to be oriented towards desktop replacement. But now I'm realizing that linux has a huge head start on software.
[04:30] <vanhoof> androidmart: works like a charm here on 1.0.31 and Ubuntu Raring
[04:31] <vanhoof> adb devices ... shows offline?
[04:31] <legomaster181> do you have to have adb on ubuntu for it to recognize a Ubuntu touch device?
[04:31] <fourfthawaiian> installing via twrp
[04:31] <vanhoof> msarchet: give it a few more
[04:31] <fourfthawaiian> slightly freaked out
[04:31] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[04:31] <msarchet> vanhoof: thanks
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> I'm on the second zip file
[04:32] <androidmart> vanhoof: yes, adb devices shows offline. And my g nexus never shows me the key popup.
[04:32] <ErikZ> legomaster: Aparently, it's literally starting tomorrow.
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> I think I better smoke while this runs
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> brb
[04:32] <legomaster181> so I did read it right! :D
[04:32] <peter____> rebooting! :D
[04:32] <Hashcode> fourfthawaiian how big are your .zips?
[04:32] <vanhoof> msarchet: takes ~10m or so, and when you begin the flash, you will have a delay ~70-80% as well while things are unpacked
[04:32] <ErikZ> legomaster181: Tomorrow is, like, 2.5 hours from now. ;-)
[04:32] <vanhoof> that can take a few as well but its progressing :)
[04:32] <fourfthawaiian> Hashcode: 56.5 and 504.2 MB
[04:33] <Hashcode> Ah.. ok I'm not used to seeing a system .zip which is so small.
[04:33] <fourfthawaiian> flashing in twrp is so much better. Progress indicators, ftw! \m/
[04:33] <msarchet> okay so intial flassh takes a while
[04:33] <lira> anybody know how to add files onto a phone running ubuntu?
[04:33] <wastrel> qmlscene is failing to find the ubuntu components, and when i give it the include path it coredumps
[04:33] <ErikZ> How much space have you found Unbuntu needs on your phone?
[04:33] <vanhoof> androidmart: i had the same issue, perhaps reboot the phone then plug it in
[04:33] <vanhoof> but a replug has always worked on 4.2.2
[04:33] <Tito0096> yeah
[04:34] <lira> anybody?
[04:34] <omac777> of the 4 samsung models which one is the highest-end?
[04:34] <peter____> flashed using a vm, seems to work
[04:34] <jaitaiwan> Hi Guys, I'm behind a corporate proxy and I'm getting a connection refused error (111) from phablet-flash. The OS is setup with the correct proxy settings and other terminal commands work. Can anyone help?
[04:34] <wastrel> is it possible to preview apps without qmlscene?
[04:34] <wastrel> using some other app
[04:35] <Hashcode> fourfthawaiian: where did you get the 2nd 500mb .zip?
[04:35] <juicyjones> jaitaiwan: can you just download the images form the web site and flash using fastboot and adb sideload?
[04:35] <jaitaiwan> Sure I can do that. Is there a wiki site with instructions using that method?
[04:35] <juicyjones> jaitaiwan: http://autonome.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/installing-ubuntu-phone-demo-on-galaxy-nexus-from-mac-os-x/
[04:35] <jaitaiwan> Cheers
[04:35] <juicyjones> it works the same on any platform using adb and fastboot
[04:36] <m7stic> What was the release timeline for this OS?
[04:36] <m7stic> in terms of getting an RC
[04:36] <legomaster181> Can any one help?  For some reason my nexus 7 running Ubuntu Touch won't be recognized by adb
[04:36] <androidmart> vanhoof: I just rebooted, plugged in again, but the G Nexus newer prompts me to accept the host key.
[04:36] <sgtkwol> interesting, flashed franco kernel for fun, getting CM boot logo
[04:36] <air13b> so how long does it take on the step for pushing to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip?
[04:37] <wastrel> is there a channel where app development discussion isn't swamped by people trying to flash their phones
[04:37] <Hashcode> So it's the same phablet.zip for all devices?
[04:37] <ErikZ> I'm an idiot. I don't own a tab 2. I own a note 2.
[04:38] <ali1234> wastrel: what are you trying to do?
[04:38] <wastrel> ali1234: run qmlscene
[04:38] <ali1234> on what?
[04:38] <wastrel> ubuntu 12.10,
[04:38] <wastrel> i'm getting an error module "Ubuntu.Components" is not installed
[04:39] <ali1234> on what hardware?
[04:39] <air13b> mine seems to hang during the push and it never boots into the shell
[04:39] <xanders2615> anyone knows if there's a problem with the images? i get a warning with md5sum and i have downloaded like 4 times.
[04:39] <wastrel> air13b: on a dell latitude laptop
[04:39] <air13b> no
[04:39] <wastrel> air13b: sorry, meant ali1234
[04:39] <ali1234> wastrel: did you install the correct version of touch preview sdk?
[04:39] <wastrel> ali1234: i followed the tutorial but then did a system update
[04:39] <air13b> nevermind, it just rebooted
[04:39] <ali1234> wastrel: when did you follow it?
[04:39] <wastrel> since then it's been broken
[04:40] <wastrel> couple weeks ago iirc
[04:40] <wastrel> but i uninstalled and reinstalled this evening
[04:40] <ali1234> wastrel: the procedure for running qmlscene is now different
[04:40] <ali1234> you do not run /opt/qt5/bin/qmlscene any more
[04:40] <wastrel> ah good that's the one i'm using currently
[04:40] <ali1234> you run /usr/bin/qmlscene instead
[04:41] <wastrel> will do
[04:41] <ali1234> in fact i don't think /opt/qt5 is even used any more
[04:41] <wastrel> well i have a heap of stuff in there :]
[04:42] <Namidairo> zzz repo sync
[04:42] <mhall119> wastrel: you should use the new qt5-proper PPA
[04:42] <mhall119> it sounds like you still have qt5-beta1
[04:42] <ali1234> nope, what he is describing is what happens when yu switch to the new ppa
[04:42] <ali1234> /opt/qt5 does not go away, it just stops working
[04:43] <wastrel> yeah i think i broke myself
[04:43] <wastrel> ok happy happy
[04:43] <ali1234> wastrel: i did this exact thing earlier today
[04:43] <androidmart> Can the image be downloaded and installed with Universal Nexus Linux Toolkit?
[04:43] <h3lgas1> where the guide to install ubuntu for nexus 7?
[04:43] <h3lgas1> wiki not help me
[04:44] <ali1234> wastrel: note that two ppas changed, the qt5 ppa and also the ui-toolkit ppa changed to some new name too
[04:44] <ali1234> if you followed the instructions again, you should have both
[04:44] <wastrel> jolly
[04:44] <h3lgas1> wiki not help me, but my os windows 7
[04:45] <wastrel> ali1234: you're my new favorite
[04:45] <h3lgas1> sorry me english
[04:45] <wastrel> is fixed
[04:45] <androidmart> My Galaxy Nexus 4.2.2 never prompts me to accept the host key when I plug it into my Ubuntu 12.10, adb 1.0.31. Therefoere adb devices shows offline.
[04:48] <nagu> after flashing, video and camera are not working.. any workaround? am using nexus 7
[04:48] <legomaster181> nagu: those are known bugs, and as far as I know there is no fix
[04:48] <legomaster181> It's happening for me too
[04:49] <ProGEEK> camera works for me, takes ages to init
[04:49] <ProGEEK> then again, im on a nexus 4
[04:50] <legomaster181> yeah, the problem is Nexus 7 specific
[04:50] <legomaster181> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Nexus_7
[04:50] <androidmart> quit
[04:50] <legomaster181> unfortunantly, I think the N7 has the most bugs :P
[04:52] <Hashcode> Is there somewhere describing how big /data needs to be for this?
[04:53] <Tito0096> Hooray! It boots and tells me i have 14 tweets lol
[04:53] <wastrel> do you have 14 tweets?
[04:53] <sgtkwol> I have 14 tweets, too
[04:54] <sgtkwol> :D
[04:54] <wastrel> 14 free tweets
[04:54] <Tito0096> lol
[04:55] <Tito0096> Why does the Maguro not have Cell connectivity and calls and texts?
[04:55] <sgtkwol> you should be able to call and text
[04:55] <wastrel> maguro is cdma oui non?
[04:55] <legomaster181> Unfortunantly I believe those tweets are hard coded in.  As well as the facebook posts from people you don't know :3
[04:55] <Tito0096> gsm
[04:55] <vanhoof> Tito0096: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[04:55] <fourfthawaiian> omg, it's wonderful :)
[04:55] <sgtkwol> I have maguro, test calls worked and SMS
[04:55] <wastrel> oh i thought takju was gsm
[04:55] <fourfthawaiian> twrp + otg cable + usb stick = very easy install
[04:56] <vanhoof> Tito0096: calls and texts working here on maguro as well
[04:56] <sgtkwol> maguro and takju are pretty much just different software
[04:56] <fourfthawaiian> it's laggy, and I really want to try out split-screen, if I can figure it out
[04:56] <Tito0096> Ah so remove sample content and we can be good to go?
[04:56] <sgtkwol> main difference is google wallet, which won't affect ubuntu
[04:56] <fourfthawaiian> but, I'm stoked.
[04:56] <mike253> when will the porting documentation be available? id like to know so i could try porting the current cm10.1 kernel over to the UP-OS for the Droid 4? or is it not really recommened to port anything yet since it is a beta?
[04:57] <legomaster181> mike253: tomorrow
[04:57] <mike253> is it recommended to port it over?
[04:57] <fourfthawaiian> these instructions worked well for me for twrp -> http://liliputing.com/2013/02/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-on-a-nexus-7-with-windows-mac-or-linux.html
[04:57] <sgtkwol> since they copy/pasted/edited CM code, you could probably do the same and start porting now http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[04:57] <legomaster181> they're encouraging anyone to port to other devices.
[04:57] <fourfthawaiian> In case anyone else wants to try it that way
[04:57] <Hashcode> mike253: I'm testing a port now
[04:58] <Tito0096> this is cool lol
[04:58] <mike253> dang hashcode i wasnt expecting you in here lol
[04:58] <robertjw> mike253, http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[04:58] <sgtkwol> Hashcode, what device?
[04:58] <mike253> Droid 4
[04:58] <mike253> well m-devices
[04:58] <Hashcode> sgtkwol: Kindle Fire.  I need to extract the .zip manually. The /data partition is about 200mb shy on space.
[04:58] <legomaster181> What do you do with that gitweb link?  I want to browse the source code and see if I can get the N7 to rotate.
[04:58] <Hashcode> I'll test the Droids here in a bit.
[04:58] <mike253> i stand corrected.
[04:59] <Hashcode> I have full source for everything on the KFire's.. I don't on the Droids :/
[04:59] <mike253> you need any help hashcode?
[04:59] <Hashcode> mike253: nah the mini-android compile is blazing.. takes maybe 10mins
[04:59] <mike253> i know and its kind of hard with the stock kernel and all
[04:59] <Hashcode> ^^
[04:59] <fourfthawaiian> wow. dual-boot looks painful.
[05:00] <Tito0096> Hmm...
[05:00] <fourfthawaiian> I really want my apps back, but I REALLY don't want to go through with that. Heh.
[05:00] <Hashcode> I could do it easy w/ Safestrap
[05:00] <Tito0096> all we need is a custom recovery and unlocked bootloader
[05:00] <Tito0096> This is much simpler than what I just performed
[05:00] <mike253> lol safestrap is pretty much the lifesaver
[05:00] <fourfthawaiian> does anyone have less-scary instructions than this? -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[05:00] <Tito0096> This - https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg00211.html
[05:00] <Hashcode> I should take a break for a bit :/
[05:00] <Tito0096> Basically
[05:00] <Tito0096> Get both those Images
[05:01] <Tito0096> Flash the 40 something mb file
[05:01] <Hashcode> mike253: I'll put a tweet out if I have something :P
[05:01] <Tito0096> then the 400 something
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> that's not dual-boot, dude.
[05:01] <Tito0096> reboot and enjoy
[05:01] <mike253> go ahead man, youve done alot of work for the m-devices lol
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> but, thanks
[05:01] <Hashcode> I'm sick as a dog :/
[05:01] <DavidJFulde> where on launchpad would I report the bugs I find?
[05:01] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: What's so scary about that?  I'm using it right now :P
[05:01] <Hashcode> bbl
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> multiboot?
[05:01] <mike253> Hashcode: ill be sure to beta
[05:01] <Tito0096> And you can use either Twrp or CWm
[05:01] <legomaster181> MultiRom
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> ok
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> looks scary
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[05:01] <fourfthawaiian> I'll give it a go :)
[05:02] <legomaster181> Yeah, I recommend you do
[05:02] <sgtkwol> ubuntu looks like it'll spread quickly to other devices...
[05:02] <fourfthawaiian> I really don't want to give up linux yet. Can't wait to show it off in the office :D
[05:02] <legomaster181> it works on android roms too
[05:02] <legomaster181> ikr
[05:02] <fourfthawaiian> nice
[05:02] <DavidJFulde> anyone know where I can report bugs? I don't want top put it in the wrong place
[05:02] <fourfthawaiian> I tend to use stock android, but it might come in handy I suppose :)
[05:02] <nahawand> hello
[05:03] <legomaster181> sup
[05:03] <nahawand> is there any chance to have it on motorola razr?
[05:03] <nahawand> good thx
[05:03] <legomaster181> right now it's only on the nexus line of devices.  But there are people working on ports already, so stay tuned
[05:04] <nahawand> brilirant
[05:04] <nahawand> I\m very optimistic about this os
[05:04] <legomaster181> Yes, me too.
[05:04] <fourfthawaiian> it's wonderful to use. I find the "swipe" interface to be very intuitive
[05:05] <legomaster181> Yeah, now if they could just optimize the memory usage...
[05:05] <wastrel> sigh i'm on call til monday and can't be messing with my phone
[05:05] <wastrel> will have to wait til then to flash anything
[05:05] <fourfthawaiian> Yeah, that lag is fracking nasty.
[05:05] <legomaster181> I'ts fine for me, just don't open too many apps
[05:05] <legomaster181> on first boot before launching any apps is crazy smooth
[05:06] <legomaster181> then open an app, and the lag begins :P
[05:06] <fourfthawaiian> LMAO
[05:06] <ProGEEK> what are you running it on legomaster181 ?
[05:06] <mailer> anyone porting it to samsung phones?
[05:06] <legomaster181> I'm running it on an N7 using MultiRom
[05:06] <nahawand> one more question.. will skype be available out of the box as the app is already available for ubuntu DT?
[05:06] <ProGEEK> is that where it runs off the sd, or "sd"
[05:07] <PhantomGamers> anyone know what needs to be done to make target ubuntu/assets/ubuntu_stamp?
[05:07] <neodxb> legomaster181: would it be possible to run on N97 Mini? were you successful with N7 ?
[05:08] <legomaster181> I was successful with the N7.  I used MultiRom, since I had it already installed for ROM testing
[05:09] <therealGent> Anyone here have any writeups on dual boot solutions?
[05:09] <ProGEEK> i love how the OS is apt based
[05:09] <Tito0096> Hmmm TWRP is unable to see my SD
[05:09] <legomaster181> Like I just said, I'm using MultiRom therealGent
[05:09] <Tito0096> yet when i go to restore from backup I should be able to...
[05:09] <legomaster181> On my Nexus 7 though
[05:10] <therealGent> legomaster181, do you have reason to believe it wouldnt work on galaxy nexus?
[05:10] <nahawand> so the dt apps doesn't work out of the box?
[05:10] <legomaster181> Unfortuantly MultiRom, is only for Nexus 7.  Sorry about that.
[05:10] <therealGent> x(
[05:10] <therealGent> lol
[05:10] <fourfthawaiian> anyone ever used fastboot on OSX?
[05:11] <legomaster181> A little, why?
[05:11] <fourfthawaiian> If I can avoid using my linux VM I will
[05:11] <ProGEEK> console based apps do nahawand, installed htop to see what it was doing :p
[05:11] <fourfthawaiian> just wondering if it works usually
[05:11] <ProGEEK> and was idling around 460mb ram
[05:11] <neodxb> are there any VMs available to test it out on a desktop?
[05:11] <legomaster181> It don't see why it wouldn't work fourfthawaiian
[05:11] <fourfthawaiian> rgr that
[05:12] <dk> my new nexus4 is having a hot flash moment.
[05:13] <dk> go ubuntu phone
[05:13] <dk> :)
[05:13] <Tito0096> lame...
[05:13]  * Namidairo watches his nexus 4 burst into a million glass pieces
[05:13] <Tito0096> my backups arent avaliable to my phone
[05:13] <fourfthawaiian> Ok, I guess all I need now is a stock rom for n7
[05:13] <wastrel> neodxb: if you find one let me know
[05:14] <sgtkwol> I wonder how long it will take for people to go CM style on the Ubuntu code and get everything working
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> QUICK. TO THE GOOGLES.
[05:14] <Namidairo> sgtkwol: you do realise this is based off cm right
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasijdq39
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> woot
[05:14] <ProGEEK> fourfthawaiian, they have a link on the ubuntu page for the stock roms
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> oh, duh
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[05:14] <fourfthawaiian> oh well
[05:14] <Namidairo> so technically people already have gone cm style on it
[05:14] <ProGEEK> nevermind then :p
[05:15] <sgtkwol> Namidairo yep, that's why I don't think it'll take long for non-Canonical people to go crazy on it
[05:15] <ProGEEK> i love how after i flashed it, i was able to go to recover and take a backup of it
[05:15] <Namidairo> porting guide is up tomorrow, other devices should be ported pretty damn quickly
[05:16] <wastrel> found a typo in the tutorial
[05:16] <ProGEEK> well yeah its core is CM10.1
[05:16] <fourfthawaiian> should twrp look any different after I've installed multirom?
[05:16] <sgtkwol> I for one, can't wait to see where this is in just a bit of time, I wouldn't be surprised to see some big community and/or Canonical changes within 30 days
[05:16] <ProGEEK> the swiping interface is too sensitive IMHO
[05:16] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian, in the advanced tab, there should be a multirom button
[05:16] <sphyyr> Hello all.
[05:16] <fourfthawaiian> oh, so there is :)
[05:17] <fourfthawaiian> You guys are damned helpful. Can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
[05:17] <fourfthawaiian> ok, downloading stock rom now
[05:17] <legomaster181> When you finish installing MultiRom, when you boot up it should bring you to a page where you can choose what rom to load
[05:17] <legomaster181> that's when you know you're done :P
[05:17] <fourfthawaiian> groovy
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> ty
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> downloading factory rom, then I'll throw it on the USB stick
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> REALLY glad I invested in a OTG cable.
[05:18] <legomaster181> man, I wish I had one :P
[05:18] <legomaster181> so many uses
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> Yeah, it's fucking amazing
[05:18] <wastrel> what's an OTG cable, and also do the tablets have a USB port ?
[05:18] <fourfthawaiian> I bought it ages ago for my old thrive 10
[05:19] <fourfthawaiian> and it comes in handy all the time on my optimus g and on my nexus 7 :)
[05:19] <legomaster181> wastrel: it's a cord that allows you to plug usb devices like keyboards or usb drives into your miniusb plug on your phone/tablet
[05:19] <wastrel> oic
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> kb's, mice, etc
[05:20] <sphyyr> hey fourfthawaiin do you recommend any particular model of otg cable?
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> I'm hoping I can track down a driver for my usb->vga dongle
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> that'd be fun
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> sphyyr: I only have the one, but it rocks
[05:20] <fourfthawaiian> trying to find a receipt from when I bought it
[05:21] <sphyyr> yeah I'm considering purchasing one off amazon just not sure if any are of better quality.
[05:21] <Namidairo> fourfthawaiian: if you are lucky there should be a generic driver from the oem
[05:21] <fourfthawaiian> Namidairo: Yeah, here's hoping
[05:21] <Namidairo> if not, there's masterca- reverse engineering.
[05:21] <sphyyr> Ubuntu Touch OS is pretty interesting so far, not sure how i feel about how it flows from one thing to another.
[05:21] <ProGEEK> lol my mate just messaged me, "I just flashed Ubuntu Phone, and apparently i already have 14 tweets"
[05:22] <ProGEEK> "We all have 14 tweets you moron"
[05:22] <Namidairo> lol
[05:22] <sphyyr> heh.
[05:22] <ghostnik11> i got on here to find out about the experience of the ubuntu OS on android phone like nexus
[05:22] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK you should tell your mate to call one of those #'s that came with it haha.
[05:22] <therealGent> any of you guys try boot manager lite?
[05:22] <ghostnik11> so what is it like?
[05:23] <Namidairo> like hardcoded strings
[05:23] <juicyjones> ghostnik11: raw
[05:23] <ProGEEK> ok, i'm cruel and horrible, but im not THAT cruel and horrible
[05:23] <ProGEEK> thats a toll call from here lol
[05:23] <sphyyr> oo ouch yeah that wouldn't be nice.
[05:23] <ghostnik11> juicyjones: so i guess the disclaimers of it not being an every day use is correct to say so far?
[05:23] <sphyyr> very much so not a daily driver.
[05:24] <juicyjones> ghostnik11: totally. it's just an interactive slideshow right now
[05:24] <ProGEEK> so apparently the video player doesnt have sound?
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> I dunno
[05:24] <sphyyr> I would confidently call it a proof of concept and nothing more at this point.
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> I posted a status on FB :)
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> and checked my gmail
[05:24] <ProGEEK> cause if thats the case, then my phone must be awesome cause i have sound lol
[05:24] <omac777> is there an easy way to get all the sources in one shot using svn or git  from http://bazaar.launchpad.net ?  As it stands from the web gui they seem to be all separate projects.
[05:24] <fourfthawaiian> LOL
[05:24] <ProGEEK> agreed sphyyr
[05:25] <ghostnik11> sphyyr: damn, i figure they got everything as close to perfect as possible but is it useable in terms of primary functions of a phone like phone calling, texting, writing emails?
[05:25] <fourfthawaiian> I was bummed that ski safari didn't work properly. love that game :P
[05:25] <ProGEEK> omac777, phablet-dev-bootstrap
[05:25] <jbooth> Eh, it calls, texts, and has a working browser. Other than supporting a corp exchange account which will probably take a long long time, that's about as good as I need.
[05:25] <sphyyr> as far as I have determined it works well as a phone, I don't think that texting works though?
[05:25] <ProGEEK> texting works
[05:25] <ProGEEK> although slow
[05:25] <jbooth> The phone keyboard isn't so hot
[05:25] <ProGEEK> well, it varied
[05:26] <ProGEEK> agreed, keyboard isnt that good
[05:26] <fourfthawaiian> yeah, no predictive text
[05:26] <ProGEEK> haha
[05:26] <sphyyr> yeah the lack of haptic feedback and predictive text.
[05:26] <fourfthawaiian> took me fracking forever to type that status update :P
[05:26] <ProGEEK> or swype
[05:26] <ghostnik11> ProGEEK: wow, ouch thats bad, then i guess community and devs of OS will have a lot of work to do b/4 it becomes beta
[05:26] <omac777> ProGEEK, so is it an apt-get install source phablet-dev-bootstrap?
[05:26] <doomlord> the gesture typing in android is interesting, should copy that
[05:26] <jbooth> Though I have to say, I flashed it on my gnex -- no accelerometer when I need one in my app, so restored mine and flashed the wife's nex4. No accel there either. DOH.
[05:26] <wastrel> jbooth: someone's actively working on an exchange client
[05:26] <wastrel> jbooth: i think he;s working with the core apps team now but may still be independent
[05:26] <fourfthawaiian> using evolution sources?
[05:26] <jbooth> But the nex4 experience is a world and above better than gnex.
[05:26] <ProGEEK> omac777, nah it should have been installed when you installed the phablet tools
[05:26] <wastrel> fourfthawaiian: unlikely
[05:27] <jbooth> nex4 is smooth like butter. gnex you can see it struggling to keep up.
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> fair enough
[05:27] <ProGEEK> omac777, just run phablet-dev-bootstrap DESTINATIONFOLDER
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> just as well. evolution sucks. LOL
[05:27] <sphyyr> I didn't even bother trying with my gnex, the nex4 is butter smooth though.
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> so, multirom can load this .tgz?
[05:27] <fourfthawaiian> I thought it liked .zip files?
[05:27] <doomlord> i remember android on gnex was sucky until project butter came along
[05:27] <ProGEEK> yup, nex4 was slicker than snot on a doorknob
[05:27] <wastrel> android on gnex is sucky?
[05:27] <jbooth> wastrel: well that's exciting. Could be my DD if it does exchange calendar -- that's really what I need.
[05:27] <doomlord> was
[05:27] <ProGEEK> and even though barely anything works, its still epic
[05:28] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: there's instructions on the 125th page of the forum on how to install ubuntu touch :P
[05:28] <fourfthawaiian> LMAO
[05:28] <fourfthawaiian> rgr that
[05:28] <jbooth> Wonder if I can con the wife into a nex4 for me for "development"
[05:28] <sphyyr> do it jbooth!
[05:28] <omac777> ProGEEK:  Right on!  Thank you.  I don't have any of these Samsung Devices.  I'm SOL for now, but I have an ADVENT VEGA I'm itching to get it to run on.
[05:28] <doomlord> when i got my gnex, it was a little jerky. turned smooth at some particular update
[05:28] <fourfthawaiian> I have touch, I want to boot 4.2.2 again
[05:28] <omac777> Of the 4 SAMSUNG Devices, which is the highest end for these for ubuntu images?
[05:29] <sphyyr> omac777 you may want to consider investing in a nexus device of some generation, they really are very nice for dev stuff.
[05:29] <ProGEEK> omac777, nex4 would have been my guess
[05:29] <sphyyr> ^
[05:29] <ProGEEK> mine's a quad core 1.5, 2GB ram, 16G storage
[05:29] <doomlord> What c++ libraries are supported for native development
[05:29] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: you're going to have to get help from someone else for that :P  I barely got my N7 to update to 4.2.2, and I'm not sure how I even did it :3
[05:30] <ProGEEK> if just going on those specs, is more powerful than my laptop
[05:30] <legomaster181> How do you download the source code for Ubuntu Touch?
[05:30] <fourfthawaiian> that's fair enough :) ty anyway
[05:30] <ProGEEK> legomaster181, phablet-dev-bootstrap FOLDER
[05:30] <fourfthawaiian> I just really want to dual boot instead of blowing Ubuntu touch away.
[05:31] <sphyyr> is dualboot android 4.2.2/Ubuntu Touch OS viable at this point?
[05:31] <legomaster181> I'm assuming that's on the package you get when installing Ubuntu Touch ProGEEK?
[05:31] <doomlord> i think what i  want is dualboot android/ubuntu-arm on n7
[05:31] <ProGEEK> yup yup
[05:31] <ghostnik11> omac777: i am in same boat don't have nexus or samsung line anything and will have to wait for my upgrade in april to get hands on one of these on my carriers network, but the problem with nexus 4 is lack of micro sd card which i don't understand why google left it out
[05:31] <ProGEEK> fourfthawaiian, my phone doesnt support multiboot, so i installed Ubuntu Touch, rebooted to recovery, then took a backup
[05:31] <legomaster181> fourfthawaiian: I'd reinstall 4.2.2, then reinstall multirom if you have to.  Finally, add Ubuntu Touch as a rom
[05:31] <fourfthawaiian> Interesting
[05:31] <fourfthawaiian> ahhhhh
[05:31] <ProGEEK> so now i just "Restore" the rom I want
[05:31] <fourfthawaiian> that sounds easier
[05:32] <fourfthawaiian> lol
[05:32] <fourfthawaiian> groovy
[05:32] <fourfthawaiian> ty
[05:32] <legomaster181> I still like MultiRom :3
[05:32] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK when you pushed Touch to your phone did it wipe your custom recovery?
[05:32] <ProGEEK> i want multirom :'(
[05:32] <dk> what's the best way to kill a running app?
[05:32] <ProGEEK> i had CWM anyway so wasnt a biggie
[05:32] <ProGEEK> dk, on the app, swipe up from the bottom, then click the X
[05:32] <jbooth> dk: swipe up from the bottom, hit the "settings" circle in the middle
[05:33] <dk> X is grayed out
[05:33] <air13b> so i have it installed, it seems hung up after the boot though
[05:33] <jbooth> hooza. The nex4 is way faster than gnex even restoring andoird. :-/
[05:33] <dk> okay, now the X is active
[05:33] <dk> i thought that was it, but it didn't work the first 20 or so times.  works now :-)
[05:34] <air13b> nm, got it
[05:34] <ProGEEK> How long does it take you other users for it to boot up?
[05:34] <ProGEEK> mine is about 7-10 seconds
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> ok
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> flashing back to 4.2.2
[05:34] <okay> Where do you extract the system image files when restoring back to Android?
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> might leave the re-linux-ing 'til tomorrow if this works OK
[05:34] <fourfthawaiian> heh
[05:34] <sphyyr> anybody try booting into fastboot and get a red led at the bottom of their screen for like 3 seconds?
[05:35] <ProGEEK> sphyyr, only when i hold the buttons down
[05:35] <ProGEEK> when i release, it goes out
[05:35] <ProGEEK> then i hold again
[05:35] <sphyyr> yeah, AIEEE red dot of death haha. also my cwmr is all kinds of weird resolutions now.
[05:35] <em_> Hey!
[05:35] <ProGEEK> i took it as an "OI im powered off, get yer filthy meathooks off me"
[05:36] <sphyyr> yeah pretty much lol
[05:36] <legomaster181> Hah!
[05:36] <ProGEEK> xD
[05:36] <sphyyr> how did you go about doing a dual restore setup though, take a backup of the touch os and then install android and the touch os is still backed up in cwm?
[05:36] <ProGEEK> me ?
[05:36] <sphyyr> yeah sorry.
[05:37] <ProGEEK> i had CM10.1 yesterday, before i reflashed, i backed it up
[05:37] <ProGEEK> installed touch
[05:37] <ProGEEK> played with it, then rebooted to recovery, took another backup, then restored the first backup to CM10.1
[05:37] <sphyyr> ah so your CM10.1 backup was still safe on your sdcard?
[05:37] <ProGEEK> yeah it doesnt seem to wipe your SD
[05:38] <sphyyr> and just to verify, your on a N4?
[05:38] <ProGEEK> indeed
[05:38] <ProGEEK> <3 N4
[05:38] <legomaster181> ProGEEK: phablet-dev-bootstrap is asking for a vendor, know what I need to type?
[05:38] <sphyyr> awesome hope my PA3.00 backup is still good haha. and yes N4 is amazing.
[05:38] <ProGEEK> hold up, lemme ps ax
[05:38] <em_> Installation stuck at Pushing .../quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip
[05:38] <em_> nothing happens then
[05:38] <ProGEEK> ok, legomaster181 its the code of your device
[05:38] <ProGEEK> i.e. the N4 is mako
[05:38] <em_> what could it be  caused by?
[05:39] <dk> em_: wait 10 minutes?
[05:39] <ProGEEK> so i ran: phablet-dev-bootstrap -v mako UbuntuTouch
[05:39] <legomaster181> e.g. grouper for n7?
[05:39] <ProGEEK> i have no clue, i know mine and the GNex lol
[05:39] <em_> ok, I'll wait some more time
[05:40] <ProGEEK> em_, that file is >400MB, it'll take some time
[05:40] <em_> How long an installation should take in average?
[05:40] <ProGEEK> id assume it would vary between devices
[05:40] <ProGEEK> what is your device ?
[05:41] <em_> Nexus 10
[05:41] <sphyyr> em_ my install took around 1 hour on a 10Mbps connection.
[05:41] <ProGEEK> should be anywhere up to 5-10 minutes
[05:41] <ProGEEK> sphyyr, to transfer the files, or the download ?
[05:41] <legomaster181> How long does it take to download the source?
[05:41] <em_> ok
[05:42] <ProGEEK> legomaster181, i've been running for several hours, and its currently > 2G in size
[05:42] <legomaster181> well, better leave it over night
[05:42] <legomaster181> and on that note, good night!
[05:42] <ProGEEK> night!
[05:42] <legomaster181> hoped I could help :P
[05:43] <sphyyr> ProGEEK total, sorry was talking to the wife. total time from start to finish was probably about 1hr 10min
[05:43] <ProGEEK> yeah he's asking about transfer from pc to phone lol
[05:44] <sphyyr> oh snap probably like 1-4 minutes for transfer and then phone takes its sweet ass time installing it haha
[05:44] <fourfthawaiian> I wish I'd seen twrp instructions first
[05:44] <fourfthawaiian> so much easier.
[05:44] <ProGEEK> lol
[05:44] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK you on linux?
[05:44] <fourfthawaiian> especially with an otg cable and a nice big flash drive
[05:45] <fourfthawaiian> ESPECIALLY since I'm not on linux
[05:45] <ProGEEK> what an insulting question
[05:45] <fourfthawaiian> trying to do it through a vm was BALLS
[05:45] <sphyyr> =P what irc client do you recommend?
[05:45] <ProGEEK> like id run anything else
[05:45] <ProGEEK> i've always stuck to XChat
[05:45] <wastrel> hexchat seems to be the new hotness
[05:45] <wastrel> if you like gui
[05:45] <wastrel> i use irssi
[05:45] <ProGEEK> and if i was on a server, it was irssi
[05:45] <sphyyr> I just got a ssd that I put ubuntu on. hm idc about gui just the ability to chat and have come modular ability for add ons.
[05:46] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK is there a way to rename backups within cwm?
[05:46] <ProGEEK> yeah, in ROM Manager
[05:46] <ProGEEK> it in CWM
[05:46] <ProGEEK> *not in
[05:47] <sphyyr> ah ok, um could you possibly do it via ES FIle Explorer?
[05:47] <fourfthawaiian> kk, flashing back to 4.2.2
[05:47] <ProGEEK> you cant browse that directory from the phone
[05:47] <ProGEEK> you'd have to adb shell
[05:47] <ProGEEK> go to the backups folder, and rename the folder
[05:47] <sphyyr> ah ok, ill probably do that then. im restoring to my PA backup.
[05:48] <sphyyr> even with up to / permission in file explorer with root you can't view cwm backups huh?
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> oh, ffs
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> TWICE now I've downloaded the wrong image.
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> Sigh.
[05:48] <ProGEEK> nah it wouldnt appear ...
[05:48] <ProGEEK> actually lemme check
[05:48] <fourfthawaiian> Device product is 'grouper'. Update requires 'tilapia'.
[05:48]  * fourfthawaiian facepalms
[05:49] <ProGEEK> ES wont let me out of the /sdcard/ dir
[05:50] <kerpal> anyone else still stuck in the nexus 10 boot loop?
[05:50] <kerpal> i found one way around it that was pretty easy
[05:50] <ProGEEK> Same with CM10.1 File Manager
[05:51] <fourfthawaiian> the good part about doing this over and over and over.. is that it's much less scary
[05:51] <ProGEEK> nevermind, had CM10.1 File Manager in safe mode
[05:52] <ProGEEK> lol so i was talking to myself sphyyr lol
[05:52] <sphyyr> well I'm glad to know that the fn f12 is immediate power off on my computer -_-
[05:52] <ProGEEK> HAH
[05:52] <sphyyr> stupid new wireless keyboard
[05:52] <ProGEEK> i mean :(
[05:52] <sphyyr> haha no it was pretty funny, im all like yay more volume... wait what in the hell? boom computer off :(
[05:52] <PhantomGamers> is anyone working on porting this to the us sgs3?
[05:52] <PhantomGamers> i ask as a developer not a leecher :P
[05:52] <nagu> i cant update my ubuntu sdk through terminal :(
[05:53] <sphyyr> hey ProGEEK what is your preferred flavor of linux?
[05:53] <ProGEEK> Unsure at this time
[05:53] <ProGEEK> i run Ubuntu 13.04
[05:53] <ProGEEK> my servers are all CentOS6
[05:53] <johncrist1988> Greetings everyone
[05:53] <omac777> ProGeek, I'm getting the mako sources.
[05:54] <sphyyr> oh hm is it stable enough for daily?
[05:54] <ProGEEK> i am preferring centos
[05:54] <johncrist1988> sphyyr, Not really, no.
[05:54] <ProGEEK> johncrist1988, i dunno what you are talking about, mine is stable lol
[05:54] <ProGEEK> except at the moment i cant suspend
[05:54] <johncrist1988> sphyyr, Some things just aren't implemented yet. External sounds for one. No speakerphone for notifications. Nothing.
[05:54] <ProGEEK> but thats no biggie
[05:54] <sphyyr> ah ok. so far im happy with 12.10 but i was enjoying linux mint 13 with cinnamon.
[05:54] <em_> it's still stuck, after already more then 15m
[05:55] <johncrist1988> Oh lol, I thought we were talking about the touch preview
[05:55] <dk> accessed my webserver.
[05:55] <ProGEEK> haha
[05:55] <dk> USER_AGENT string is:   "Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A334 Safari/7534.48.3"
[05:55] <sphyyr> whoo ParanoidAndroid 3.00 back up on my N4 :D
[05:55] <dk> WHY?  user_agent saying iPhone ?
[05:55] <ProGEEK> dk, probably compatibility at the mo
[05:56] <Namidairo> because iphone site
[05:56] <ProGEEK> to ensure you get mobile versions of the site id assume
[05:56] <dk> I know all that
[05:56] <dk> user agents should allow a device to set capabilities, not brands :)
[05:56] <sphyyr> what is the easiest way in xchat to reply to a person? such as having their username input in chat?
[05:56] <jbooth> johncrist1988: External sound works -- I can play mp3s through QML Audio calls on the external speaker.
[05:56] <ProGEEK> sphyyr, start typing their nickname, then hit tab to complete it
[05:56] <johncrist1988> jbooth, Really? None of my notifications are playing through the speakerphone.
[05:56] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, awesome ty
[05:56] <ProGEEK> tab complete ftw
[05:56] <panard> is N4 expensive?
[05:57] <ProGEEK> i got mine rather cheap
[05:57] <sphyyr> yeah I've been burned by win8 and can't remember my precious linux commands haha
[05:57] <jbooth> Well I can't comment on that, all I can tell you is the toy app I was working on makes LOTS OF NOISE.
[05:57] <panard> ProGEEK: how much?
[05:57] <jbooth> (way louder than android on the same phone, oddly enough)
[05:57] <ProGEEK> brand new sealed, $650NZD
[05:57] <ProGEEK> so in US thats...
[05:58] <ProGEEK> $542.95, well its cheap for over here anyway
[05:58] <johncrist1988> jbooth, Interesting, I've been trying to figure out sound on my N4 all night. Through the earpiece it's fine. External speaker? Nope.
[05:58] <ProGEEK> dont have it muted johncrist1988 ? :p
[05:58] <panard> ProGEEK: that's really expensive!!
[05:58] <sphyyr> anybody else think that $60USD is a bit steep for the wireless charger from el Goog?
[05:58] <jbooth> johncrist1988: Could be a n4 thing, I didn't try sound on it before returning it to android for the wife and reflashing my gnex to touch.
[05:58] <ProGEEK> panard, over iPhones are $1000+
[05:58] <johncrist1988> ProGEEK, It isn't, notifications can be heard with the earpiece.
[05:59] <ProGEEK> the N4 is currently RRP $799+
[05:59] <johncrist1988> johncrist1988, On your gnex it's fine?
[05:59] <fourfthawaiian> everything is stupidly exey in oz/nz
[05:59] <dk> what app can actually play audio on the current build?
[05:59] <ProGEEK> fourfthawaiian, IKR!
[05:59] <ghostnik11> sphyyr: yes thats very expensive for a wireless charger
[05:59] <panard> ProGEEK: i sow N4 sells about 400USD
[05:59] <fourfthawaiian> Srsly. One of the few things I don't miss about living down under.
[05:59] <fourfthawaiian> been in the states for 3 years..  LOL
[06:00] <sphyyr> I live at the top of the world o_o
[06:00] <ProGEEK> yeah i looked at getting one imported, but after paying for it, currency conversion and shipping, it was going to be about 700
[06:00] <kerpal> nexus 4 should be $350 before taxes for the 16gb in the states
[06:00] <sphyyr> ^ how much i paid
[06:00] <panard> ProGEEK: where do you live with?
[06:01] <ProGEEK> New Zealand
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> n7 was $200 for my mrs 16G and $250 for my 32G
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> obscenely cheap.
[06:01] <ProGEEK> where everything costs an arm, a leg, your first born son, and possibly a testicle or two
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> LMAO
[06:01] <kerpal> yeah google's prices are great
[06:01] <kerpal> you can't complain about them
[06:01] <ProGEEK> its insanely expensive for electronics here
[06:01] <kerpal> their customer service is terrible though from what i hear from people who had problems
[06:01] <fourfthawaiian> I was even able to find the 16G in a shop, which I didn't think you could do.
[06:01] <johncrist1988> I got a N4 on craigslist for $200
[06:02] <kerpal> no way
[06:02] <sphyyr> I have had great customer service from google every time i've had to contact them.
[06:02] <kerpal> lies
[06:02] <panard> johncrist1988: howto?
[06:02] <kerpal> well that's good to hear sphyyr
[06:02] <ProGEEK> there is no such thing sphyyr
[06:02] <SpeeDeh> is there an easy way to clear out the "recently in touch" section
[06:02] <fourfthawaiian> ok, 4.2.2 booted
[06:02] <ProGEEK> lol
[06:02] <johncrist1988> lol panard Just look on craigslist if you're in the states
[06:02] <ProGEEK> yay fourfthawaiian
[06:02] <fourfthawaiian> you guys ROCK. Thanks for all the assistance tonight.
[06:02] <SpeeDeh> i installed one of the preloaded images
[06:02] <ProGEEK> about time you got some success
[06:03] <sphyyr> no such thing as customer service?
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> hopefully I'll be able to get ubuntu running in dual-boot tomorrow
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> ProGEEK: Srsly. :P
[06:03] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> have a good night/day/whichever, all
[06:03] <fourfthawaiian> cheers
[06:03] <SpeeDeh> im clicking, thx
[06:03] <sphyyr> ProGEEK,  there is no such thing as what?
[06:04] <ProGEEK> good customer service from google lol
[06:04] <SpeeDeh> is there an easy way to shell in from Windows?
[06:04] <SpeeDeh> laptop is charging atm =(
[06:04] <sphyyr> haha probably not, I just have easy questions ^_^
[06:04] <johncrist1988> Evidently I just lost wlan0
[06:04] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, same page, closer to the top :p
[06:04] <sphyyr> johncrist1988,  it ran away?
[06:04] <ProGEEK> oh wow
[06:05] <ProGEEK> phablet-network-setup copies your current wifi setup to the device
[06:05] <ProGEEK> NICE
[06:05] <sphyyr> from your pc?
[06:05] <johncrist1988> sphyyr, No, from my phone
[06:05] <SpeeDeh> adb cant see the device since i installed ubuntu
[06:05] <sphyyr> johncrist1988, ah :(
[06:06] <ProGEEK> yup
[06:06] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, does that copy your current wifi setup from your pc or from your phone?
[06:06] <ProGEEK> From the PC to the phone
[06:06] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, time for an install script!
[06:06] <ProGEEK> my laptop is on wifi, when i run that command, i see it copy my config in the terminal, and then i see my phone connect to the wifi
[06:06] <SpeeDeh> well i cant run that ssh stuff if adb wont work =(
[06:07] <ProGEEK> cant you adb shell ?
[06:07] <sphyyr> ProGEEK, awesome. well all its time for bed, I shall be back on tomorrow to continue chatting about Touch OS.
[06:07] <ProGEEK> Night!
[06:07] <SpeeDeh> tablet currently doesnt show up as an ADB device
[06:07] <SpeeDeh> maybe need new drivers
[06:07] <ProGEEK> have you restarted the adb server ?
[06:07] <SpeeDeh> yeah
[06:08] <ProGEEK> or yeah possibly drivers, i dont know, im on Linux
[06:08] <SpeeDeh> i see it shows as an exclamation mark in windows
[06:08] <SpeeDeh> damn
[06:08] <SpeeDeh> and theres no way canonical is gonna provide windows drivers hahaha
[06:09] <faninx> hi everyone     can I ask a question? How can I push a font to ubuntu phone?
[06:09] <ProGEEK> i dont think its the canonical driver you need
[06:09] <ProGEEK> more like the one for your nexus
[06:09] <SpeeDeh> well i installed the nexus drivers to get windows to see it in adb
[06:09] <SpeeDeh> but since loading ubuntu, it shows an ! in device manager, hmmm
[06:09] <SpeeDeh> does ubuntu support various modes like MTP etc
[06:10] <ProGEEK> try another usb port
[06:10] <SpeeDeh> whoa somehow i entered a settings page on the device
[06:10] <omac777> SpeeDeh: yes.
[06:10] <SpeeDeh> i was looking for that
[06:10] <faninx> I want to use adb, but I don't know the folder
[06:10] <omac777> Last I heard, it was a simple mount.
[06:11] <omac777> It's supported through FUSE.
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> new usb port, no more exclamation mark
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> but no adb devices
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> restarted server
[06:11] <SpeeDeh> sad day
[06:11] <ProGEEK> reboot both lol
[06:12] <em_> I've started installation again, but with shorter cord and it completed a lot faster, so I assume the cause of very long transferring was a cord.
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> i really should have done it through ubuntu lol
[06:12] <ProGEEK> yes, yes you should
[06:12] <ProGEEK> :p
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> but... it said the camera works
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> but it doesnt
[06:12] <ProGEEK> it does on mine
[06:12] <ProGEEK> after some time
[06:12] <ProGEEK> lol
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> oh
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> lol
[06:12] <johncrist1988> My camera works fine
[06:12] <SpeeDeh> and ski safari was preinstalled! which was boss
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> but it doesnt fit the screen correctly
[06:13] <ProGEEK> it is!
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> and it doesnt do anything
[06:13] <ProGEEK> just as a preinstalled image :p
[06:13] <johncrist1988> ProGEEK, Have you done any kernel work with the preview or anything? Tried anything?
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> lol its just a picture?
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> diabolical
[06:13] <ProGEEK> nah, im just a poor underpaid web and app developer
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> and i cant change the time
[06:13] <SpeeDeh> or the timezone
[06:14] <ProGEEK> hey dont knock it, its a rather snazzy looking picture :p
[06:14] <dk> read the release notes
[06:14] <dk> timezone is changeable
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> lol maybe if it fit the screen :p
[06:14] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, you change that from the terminal at the mo
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> ah
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> im still goin through that page
[06:14] <ProGEEK> remembering its a Developer Preview
[06:14] <johncrist1988> Ahh. Did they ever release any kernel notes or anything I wonder? I'm compiling one now I wanna push but don't know if they did anything special.
[06:14] <nagu> Unable to locate package ubuntu-sdk... any workaround???
[06:14] <SpeeDeh> i see the timezone part now
[06:14] <ProGEEK> johncrist1988, its base is CM10.1
[06:14] <napster> Where is the bug tracker?
[06:15] <ProGEEK> nagu, did you install the ppa
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> can i access a terminal from the device
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> i dont see one
[06:15] <johncrist1988> Good to know
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> im scrolling
[06:15] <ProGEEK> no SpeeDeh, computer only
[06:15] <SpeeDeh> blast!
[06:16] <nagu> yes proGeek
[06:16] <omac777> still retrieving get the mako sources....30 minutes later...
[06:16] <ProGEEK> did you apt-get update ?
[06:16] <ProGEEK> omac777, you'll be there for hours
[06:16] <ProGEEK> i have had it going since 1pm this afternoon
[06:16] <omac777> yup :)
[06:16] <ProGEEK> it is now 7:16pm
[06:16] <omac777> Ok...thanks for the warning :)
[06:16] <ProGEEK> and its still going, and just over 2.2GB
[06:17] <ProGEEK> its going really slowly, like 60kbs
[06:17] <johncrist1988> wtf why did I suddenly completely loose wlan0
[06:17] <ProGEEK> did you misplace it ?
[06:17] <SpeeDeh> i downloaded them here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/
[06:17] <johncrist1988> lol No :P
[06:17] <ProGEEK> SpeeDeh, we are referring to the source code
[06:18] <ProGEEK> are you sure? when i lose my glasses, they are usually on my face
[06:18] <SpeeDeh> scrollin too fast for me to keep pace with chat and the docs
[06:18] <SpeeDeh> ima disappear for a bit
[06:18] <SpeeDeh> thx for the links
[06:18] <ProGEEK> enjoy
[06:18] <Namidairo> repo init -u git://phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b phablet-10.1
[06:19] <Namidairo> repo sync
[06:20] <nagu> yes i didnt that. i did followed this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Qml-Phone-Alternitive to install ubuntu components
[06:20] <Namidairo> i was talking about the source
[06:22] <ali1234> ProGEEK: i pulled source when everyone was fighting for the images :)
[06:22] <ali1234> got them at 1mbit
[06:22] <ProGEEK> grrr
[06:22] <ProGEEK> not what i wanted to hear lol
[06:23] <madrahimov> Can I install on nexus s
[06:23] <ali1234> al@al-desktop:~/phablet-dev$ du . -sh
[06:23] <ali1234> 16G	.
[06:23] <Namidairo> ali1234: images were released at 2am in the morning for me sooooo...
[06:23] <ali1234> ProGEEK:  ^
[06:23] <ProGEEK> oh hell no
[06:23] <Namidairo> 16gbs?
[06:23] <ProGEEK> i quit lol
[06:23] <madrahimov> yes
[06:23] <Namidairo> /wrist
[06:24] <sk789> hi can any one tell me is it possible to install ubuntu on iphone 3gs
[06:24] <johncrist1988> ProGEEK, has there been any word on whether we are looking at nightly builds or anything?
[06:24] <sk789> by any means
[06:24] <Namidairo> LOL
[06:24] <ProGEEK> johncrist1988, no idea, havent read or seen anything
[06:24] <ProGEEK> other than whats on the wiki
[06:25] <Namidairo> the flasher references nightly builds
[06:25] <ProGEEK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute#Building_and_publishing_Touch_Preview_images
[06:25] <johncrist1988> sk789, No, you cannot put anything on an iPhone. Except iOS. That is by design by Apple and nobody can do anything about it.
[06:25] <omac> obfuscation by providing drowning amounts of source code :)  16GB of sources? ouch.  I guess it will my largest emacs TAGS file ever :)
[06:25] <Yugge> sk789: No, not unless it starts running android first.
[06:25] <Hashcode> So I'm playing around w/ my Kindle Fire port of the Touch Preview and it looks to have booted, I have adb access.. but no screen..
[06:25] <johncrist1988> Oh sweet
[06:26] <Namidairo> mmm, a jenkins instance
[06:26] <Hashcode> Anything I should be looking for in adb?
[06:26] <ali1234> i'm no actually sure why it says 16GB...
[06:26] <Namidairo> ...logcat?
[06:26] <ali1234> du * -sh doesn't seem to add up to 16GB
[06:26] <Hashcode> logcat just stops at some point
[06:26] <Hashcode> does ubuntu part still write to it?
[06:26] <dk> hrm
[06:27] <Namidairo> dunno
[06:27] <dk> held down power button, it powered off
[06:27] <Hashcode> I can see that the mini-android booted
[06:27] <dk> no, nothing will wake it bqack up
[06:27] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704569/
[06:27] <Namidairo> logcat and last kmesg to pastebin anyway
[06:27] <PhantomGamers> i dont have any screen on my sgs3 port of it either
[06:27] <PhantomGamers> logcat: http://pastebin.com/wqwEqRsR
[06:27] <omac> if logcat is not logging, it's a sign that your phone is off(power save mode).
[06:27] <Hashcode> And I have ubuntu/system and ubuntu/vendor mounted
[06:27] <Namidairo> ali1234: IIRC repo downloads the other branches too and stores them in .repo
[06:27] <omac> wake it up by pressing the power button, or touching it every so often.
[06:27] <ali1234> Namidairo: bingo
[06:28] <ali1234> .repo is ~9GB
[06:28] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, if you figure anything out let me know, I'll do the same, maybe we have the same problem
[06:28] <Namidairo> and when I say iirc i mean, when I looked at how big my cm-10.1 .repo was a couple hours ago
[06:28] <Hashcode> This is my logcat http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8Xinvq0V
[06:28] <ali1234> are people porting this already? if so, is there a central list of who is working on what yet?
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> anything before that?
[06:29] <ProGEEK> lol@cyanogenmod
[06:29] <omac> please consider using the eclipse ide with the android plugin.  It helps for debugging.  If you're just shoving files over to the device, then yeah just do adb push.
[06:29] <Namidairo> hiding it would be a crime
[06:29] <ali1234> ProGEEK: the build has cyanogenmod boot animation
[06:29] <Namidairo> :P
[06:29] <ali1234> but it does not play
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> E/qdoverlay(  269): cannot open framebuffer(1)
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> E/qdoverlay(  269): initOverlay failed
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> E/qdcopybit(  269): open_copybit: dlsym ERROR
[06:29] <ali1234> it's in there though
[06:29] <ProGEEK> oh really? nice
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> im noticing that
[06:29] <PhantomGamers> in mine
[06:29] <Hashcode> Lemme see my kmsg
[06:30] <Namidairo> ali1234: im gonna start porting as soon as the last 2 frakking repos finish syncing
[06:30] <Namidairo> lol
[06:30] <ali1234> Namidairo: what device?
[06:30] <Namidairo> tf201
[06:30] <ali1234> nice
[06:30] <bzoltan> omac:  QtCreator is the best tool for QML application development.
[06:30] <Namidairo> i already have a working cm-10.1 repo for that device lying around so it shouldn't be too much work
[06:31] <ali1234> is anyone trying to port it to non-android/libhybris?
[06:31] <ali1234> just bring up the UI on regular ubuntu...
[06:31] <ProGEEK> tf201... transformer ?
[06:31] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I can see this in my kmsg
[06:32] <Hashcode> starting 'ubuntu_chroot'
[06:32] <Namidairo> ProGEEK: robots in disguise.
[06:32] <Hashcode> starting 'compcache'
[06:32] <ProGEEK> <3
[06:32] <Hashcode> But obviously I have several services fail from missing bins
[06:32] <Hashcode> cannot find '/system/bin/ubuntuappmanager', disabling 'ubuntuappmanager'
[06:32] <Namidairo> although I think im gonna want to expand this ext4 partition
[06:32] <Namidairo> not enough room here atm
[06:32] <Hashcode> Yeah I'm tight
[06:32] <PhantomGamers> last_kmsg is only generated when the kernel fails?
[06:32] <Hashcode> crash usually
[06:32] <omac> bzoltan:  QML applications is dedicated to QT stuff, but somebody above was talking about adb stuff and logcat.  How far does QT go with supporting connecting/transferring/debugging on real devices?
[06:33] <Hashcode> I'm fully booted up
[06:33] <Hashcode> I just have no screen
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> i dont have adb myself someone else pulled that logcat, i think it's something with my system though not my phone
[06:33] <Hashcode> starting 'drm'
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> so i cant pull kmsg on boot
[06:33] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xvrmqiij
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> so the kindle is omap4? not qcom?
[06:33] <Hashcode> yeah it's omap4
[06:33] <PhantomGamers> hm, that makes me less hopeful that our problems are the same lol
[06:34] <Hashcode> This is the 1st gen.. only 512MB RAM which may be an issue
[06:34] <Hashcode> I can try booting it on the KFireHD tho
[06:34] <Namidairo> thats pretty tight on ram, but workable
[06:34] <bzoltan> omac:  It is getting there. But nobody stops developers to fix and use other development tools. For QML application development the QtCreator 2.7 release is the best what can be used.
[06:34] <Namidairo> you'd still have 150-200mb left after boot
[06:34] <akanurlan> does anybody know how to make visible nexus 7 as /sdcard/ in ubuntu?
[06:35] <Hashcode> Well w/o the UI loaded.. I have 359MB free atm
[06:35] <PhantomGamers> well has anyone SUCCESSFULLY got ubuntu working on another device?
[06:35] <Hashcode> Oh
[06:35] <PhantomGamers> maybe there's a key step we're missing
[06:35] <johncrist1988> PhantomGamers, I have it running on my laptop :\
[06:35] <Hashcode> nit: process 'ubuntu_chroot', pid 109 exited (status = 00000100)
[06:35] <PhantomGamers> lol
[06:35] <Namidairo> are you just straight using the device repos from cm-10.1?
[06:36] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[06:36] <ProGEEK> Hashcode, what if you run that from adb as root ?
[06:36] <Hashcode> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[06:36] <Hashcode> I just sync'd it down and added my device/vendor
[06:36] <Hashcode> and kernel
[06:36] <Namidairo> and you managed to get it to build without changing anything?
[06:37] <Hashcode> Well I had to do a few patches
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> i had to change some stuff to get it to build
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> PhantomGamers: I ported to galaxy tab 2 7.0, and will demonstrate tomorrow at http://ubuntuonair.com
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> with bionic
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> and display-caf
[06:37] <Hashcode> But I always do
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> with the proper guide and such :-)
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> things will be on-line in a few hours
[06:37] <Hashcode> They forked cm10.1 about a week before my patches
[06:37]  * Namidairo slaps him
[06:37] <Hashcode> If they'd forked it later, I could have built w/o any changes
[06:37] <akanurlan> does anybody know how to make visible nexus 7 as /sdcard/ in ubuntu?
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> rsalveti|afk, you work for canoncial then?
[06:37] <rsalveti|afk> yup
[06:37] <PhantomGamers> awesome
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> Hashcode: just tell me later what do you need to be updated
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> we can sync and rebase
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> now I need to be real afk, get some sleep :-)
[06:38] <rsalveti|afk> talk to you guys tomorrow
[06:38] <Namidairo> i think there was some stuff in bionic with optimisations
[06:38] <PhantomGamers> night man
[06:38] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> hi
[06:38] <Hashcode> I'll get you a date :)
[06:38] <Hashcode> night
[06:38] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> есть кто из россии ? )
[06:39] <Namidairo> ...nyet?
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> lol
[06:39] <Adel> HHey guyz, I have a small question, and couldn't seem to get the answer over the internet... I know that for now ubuntu phone OS has been released for the Galaxy Nexus phones, however any idea if the Galaxy S3 might be able to run the OS anytime soon?
[06:39] <Namidairo> soon.
[06:39] <llstarks> rsalveti|afk, we're working on d2vzw, the north american gs3
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> Adel, what s3?
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> ^
[06:39] <faninx> anyone know where are the font files?
[06:39] <llstarks> we may beat you to it
[06:39] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> hey
[06:39] <PhantomGamers> i hope so
[06:39] <Adel> international
[06:39] <Hashcode> I wonder if there's like a logfile I can look at for this boot
[06:39] <ky4eryavii_pon4o> can i install ubuntu os on nexus s ?
[06:39] <Adel> i9300
[06:40] <Namidairo> why can't you all just get along...
[06:40] <Namidairo> ky4eryavii_pon4o: not yet. It's up to someone to port it over.
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> international s3 is different hardware
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> lol
[06:40] <akanurlan> does anybody know how to make visible nexus 7 as /sdcard/ in ubuntu?
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> exynos
[06:40] <faninx> I want to replace the fonts  to support chinese
[06:40] <llstarks> anyone want a logcat of ubuntu touch on a d2vzw?
[06:40] <Hashcode> rsalveti|afk my patches were in CM10.1 after 1/26: frameworks/base, frameworks/av and hardware/ti/omap4xxx
[06:40] <llstarks> i booted it, but no screen
[06:40] <PhantomGamers> i posted the logcat above llstarks
[06:41] <omac> akanurlan:  to push files to the device, use adb push.  But there is setup involved.  http://desire.giesecke.tk/tutorial-adb-on-xubuntu/
[06:41] <llstarks> my precious logcat!
[06:41] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode has the same problem with his omap device
[06:41] <Adel> So will it be supported in the future?
[06:41] <PhantomGamers> Adel, most likely yes
[06:41] <Namidairo> im probably gonna have to merge in stuff from frameworks/base as well
[06:41] <PhantomGamers> not officially but yeah
[06:41] <omac> akanurlan:  when you do adb devices, do you see your tablet/phone?
[06:42] <Hashcode> Was still pre- 4.2.2 which is nice if canonical didn't want to tackle that yet.
[06:42] <faninx> i use ddms, can't find any folder like font folder
[06:42] <Adel> PhantomGamers, what about this? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[06:42] <akanurlan> omac: i see id of device and "device" text
[06:42] <PhantomGamers> i have no idea about that
[06:43] <Adel> Thanks alot
[06:43] <wgrant> Adel: The porting guide will be released on Friday, after which I'm sure a port to the GS3 will spring up
[06:44] <wgrant> Since it's a fairly popular phone :)
[06:44] <Namidairo> in about...
[06:44] <zeke> anyone know of an image for galaxy s3
[06:44] <Namidairo> 8 hours or so
[06:44] <PhantomGamers> zeke, there are 100 million galaxy s3s
[06:44] <llstarks> wgrant, the zips being produced so far can only be described as cmbuntu
[06:44] <Adel> I would like to know what exactly is Ubuntu for Android. Anyone got a clue?
[06:44] <faninx> The apps in desktop "available for download" can be downloaded? or just icon?
[06:44] <Namidairo> inb4 someone links him a google images jpg of a galaxy s3
[06:45] <PhantomGamers> LOL
[06:45] <Namidairo> it's what he asked for is it not
[06:45] <ali1234> so the phablet repo just builds the android base system?
[06:45] <ali1234> not the ubuntu root file system, correct?
[06:45] <Hashcode> yeah it's the mini-android which is used to chroot
[06:45] <Hashcode> The 500mb .zip file is the ubuntu file system
[06:45] <faninx> I clicked , no  response
[06:45] <ali1234> so how is that part built?
[06:46] <zeke> what channel are we in i figured the question was implied
[06:46] <Namidairo> have you tried flashing that over
[06:46] <Namidairo> lol
[06:46] <omac> akanurlan:   http://pastebin.com/vM5aZ5HF
[06:47] <akanurlan> omac: thanks a lot!
[06:47] <Namidairo> lol udev rules
[06:47] <Namidairo> that brings me back
[06:47] <Namidairo> the alternative is to just sudo, but that's just a pita for some
[06:47] <SpeeDeh> is the camera slow to initialise?
[06:47] <Namidairo> that and you may be required to adb kill-server as well
[06:48] <jaitaiwan> Hi guys, I had to install the images manually (sideload said error closed) and I get a blank screen after the google logo disappeared on nexus 4. What have i done?
[06:48] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I'm failing on some of the ubuntu_chroot commands
[06:48] <PhantomGamers> i wish i could get a ksmg
[06:48] <PhantomGamers> kmsg*
[06:48] <PhantomGamers> llstarks, :P
[06:48] <Hashcode> For instance I don't have a dev mount in /data/ubuntu
[06:48] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: What does 'adb logcat' say?
[06:48] <Namidairo> lolwut
[06:48] <Hashcode> or sys
[06:49] <Hashcode> or run
[06:49] <Hashcode> And I'm fairly certain that's where it's failing
[06:49] <wgrant> Hashcode: That suggests that you didn't flash the big zip
[06:49] <Namidairo> ima be in meld, figuring out what changed.
[06:49] <jaitaiwan> a fair amount of error messages
[06:50] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: If you run adb shell, does /data/ubuntu exist?
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> Hashcode: make sure the config changes are done correctly
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> just a sec
[06:50] <Hashcode> Oh
[06:50] <Hashcode> I bet I need to make these dir's in the init.*.rc
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704686/
[06:50] <Hashcode> thank you sir
[06:50] <rsalveti|afk> otherwise the container will not work
[06:51]  * rsalveti|afk really really of now :-)
[06:51] <rsalveti|afk> enjoy guys
[06:51] <Hashcode> BoardConfig.mk ok for these?
[06:51] <rsalveti|afk> *off
[06:51] <SpeeDeh> argh, my device has intermittent connection issues since installing ubuntu
[06:51] <Hashcode> Thanks again
[06:51] <Namidairo> GO TO SLEEP DAMN YOU
[06:51] <jaitaiwan> wgrant I can't see the directory because of permission denied. Should I be in recovery mode to do this?
[06:51] <Namidairo> i think these go in the defconfig
[06:51] <Hashcode> NM you're right
[06:51] <Namidairo> judging by their naming and is not set
[06:51] <Hashcode> turning these on and I'll toss a new kernel in
[06:51] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: try adb root
[06:51] <Namidairo> sigh, time to create a new branch
[06:52] <Namidairo> TO THE GITHUB!
[06:52] <faninx> the ubuntu os no root permission?
[06:52] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I bet that's your issue too
[06:53] <PhantomGamers> ooo
[06:53] <PhantomGamers> thanks
[06:53] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: no /data/ubuntu doesn't exist
[06:53] <PhantomGamers> kernel config?
[06:53] <Hashcode> yeah
[06:53] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: Which device, and how did you try to flash it?
[06:53] <Hashcode> I'm just adding an ubuntu_defconfig
[06:53] <SpeeDeh> [sudo] password for phablet:
[06:53] <Namidairo> arch/arm/configs/bleh
[06:53] <SpeeDeh> i dont see the password listed in the documentation
[06:53] <llstarks> PhantomGamers, yo
[06:54] <llstarks> need a kmsg?
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> anyone know?
[06:54] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: And what does 'df -h /data' say?
[06:54] <wgrant> SpeeDeh: 'phablet'
[06:54] <Namidairo> it is listed
[06:54] <PhantomGamers> no we were missing kernel configs lol
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> lawl, ty
[06:54] <Namidairo> the password is phablet
[06:54] <llstarks> eh?
[06:54] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: Nexus 4. Sideload wouldn't work so I pushed the zips and installed in order according to http://autonome.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/installing-ubuntu-phone-demo-on-galaxy-nexus-from-mac-os-x/
[06:54] <Namidairo> that probably does not solve the whole problem
[06:54] <llstarks> do you need my phone as a guinea pig?
[06:54] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: The big 500MB zip contains /data/ubuntu
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> To run as user phablet (required to run apps in an initialized session): su - phablet
[06:54] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: Make sure you have enough space for that and flash it again
[06:54] <SpeeDeh> thats all i see in the doc
[06:54] <Namidairo> its somewhere else
[06:55] <SpeeDeh> ah k
[06:55] <wgrant> SpeeDeh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#User_Accounts
[06:55] <PhantomGamers> llstarks, im using my phone ;P
[06:55] <SpeeDeh> i also noticed the timezone file says "phone-services" but it says theres an option for tablet-services, which id ont have
[06:55] <SpeeDeh> clearly i installed the wrong one
[06:56] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: should be right, it is a new 16gb phone
[06:56] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, let me know if that works for you
[06:56] <Hashcode> yeah making changes now
[06:56] <Hashcode> I don't think these options are going to hurt anything, I might just add them on as default for my android kernel
[06:57] <Namidairo> i presume that the build system still works with ccache
[06:57] <Namidairo> ja?
[06:57] <SpeeDeh> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/phone-services/"
[06:57] <Hashcode> yeah it's the CM10.1 build
[06:57] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: Once I've reflashed that large zip, am I cool to reboot the device normally?
[06:57] <SpeeDeh> i typed sudo!
[06:57] <Namidairo> that's nice dear
[06:58] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: Yeah, hopefully it'll boot then
[06:58] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: But it might be worth confirming that /data/ubuntu exists after that
[06:58] <Namidairo> go repo sync, sync those repos at atrociously slow speeds!
[06:59] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: it exists now... restarting.
[06:59] <wgrant> jaitaiwan: That's a better sign
[06:59] <SpeeDeh> is there a reason that sudo edit /etc/phone-services says i dont have write permission?
[07:00] <jaitaiwan> wgrant: all good. thanks muchly for your help!
[07:00] <dr_gogeta86> hi
[07:00] <Namidairo> perhaps it resides on /system, which is normally mounted ro
[07:00] <dr_gogeta86> wich is the package for graphic server ?
[07:02] <PhantomGamers> building
[07:03] <street> hey all
[07:03] <faninx> adb root     works
[07:03] <street> quick question any1 know if they will be supporting a10 devices
[07:04] <Namidairo> a10...?
[07:04] <street> allwinner
[07:04] <street> system on a chip
[07:04] <Namidairo> ahahahahaha
[07:05] <street> any1 from ubuntu admin?
[07:06] <schasch> hi, ...adb shell  gives an "error:  gives a device not found"    : how should be the /dev/-name?  mine is /dev/libmtp-1-1  ?
[07:06] <SpeeDeh> good ideanami
[07:06] <schasch> ubunut is running
[07:06] <SpeeDeh> but adb remount didnt resolve the issue =(
[07:08] <schasch> lsusb shows "Bus 001 Device 060: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100 Phone [Galaxy S II]"  ???
[07:08] <SpeeDeh> hey i have that phone <3
[07:09] <omac> schasch:  that's not the Galaxy Nexus/Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[07:09] <Tommy_> hi gays
[07:09] <SpeeDeh> nor the nexus 10!
[07:09] <schasch> omac : yes Gnex ...
[07:09] <schasch> i do not know why?
[07:09] <PhantomGamers> the config changes didnt fix it for me ;( Hashcode
[07:09] <Hashcode> getting ready to fastboot mine
[07:09] <Hashcode> now
[07:09] <schasch> flashes it yesterday on other notebook
[07:09] <schasch> and I am nw working in vmware
[07:10] <PhantomGamers> maybe i missed one lol, i thought i was pretty thorough though
[07:10] <omac> schasch:  Are you saying your GTI9100 [GALAXY S II] from your lsusb is coming from your Galaxy Nexus phone?
[07:10] <SpeeDeh> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/phone-services/"
[07:11] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I copy/pasted those onto the end of my original config and then copied it back over once a .config was made
[07:11] <caner> hi guys
[07:11] <PhantomGamers> oh
[07:11] <schasch> omac : yes!  its a galaxy nexus with ubunut from yesterdy
[07:11] <Hashcode> it puts them back in order
[07:12] <PhantomGamers> i went and changed the ones that existed and added the ones that didnt manually
[07:12] <caner> how to install ubuntu phone on galaxy nexus ??
[07:13] <omac> caner:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[07:13] <schasch> omac : could it be the cable?
[07:13] <PhantomGamers> im not getting the fatal error in logcat
[07:13] <PhantomGamers> I/rmt_storage(  438): Error (-1) parsing MBR partitions
[07:13] <caner> thank you omac.
[    0.228536] ram_console: uncorrectable error in header
[07:15] <PhantomGamers> thats in kmsg
[07:15] <Hashcode> hrm
[07:15] <Hashcode> for me I don't see dev or sys yet
[07:16] <Hashcode> even with those items
[07:16] <omac> schasch:  GALAXY S II(GTI9100)   is not Galaxy Nexus (GT-I9250)
[07:16] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus
[07:16] <omac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II
[07:17] <PhantomGamers> i just pulled in cm's external/kernel-headers
[07:17] <SpeeDeh> this may sound dumb, but do i need to reboot the device after setting timezone
[07:17] <PhantomGamers> maybe thats related to my issue
[07:17] <PhantomGamers> outdated
[07:17] <topshelf> So, does anything other than the time actually change on the "lock screen"?
[07:17] <SpeeDeh> oh nm i didnt read it
[07:17] <omac> They are related, but the Galaxy Nexus does not seem to be the successor of Galaxy S
[07:18] <ImmutableObject> does anyone know if you can connect an android phone to a live cd version of ubuntu for installing the ubuntu phone os
[07:19] <zack> hello?
[07:19] <schasch> omac : yes rebootet phone , change cable...9250 is still shown as 9100 in lsusb in my vmware ???
[07:19] <kemcafe> hi guys, can i sync contact with a google account or others one?
[07:19] <omac> ImmutableObject:  Possibly if you have a ton of RAM.  I wouldn't attempt it that way however.
[07:19] <topshelf> In fact, does anything change on the home screen?
[07:19] <ImmutableObject> thanks omac
[07:20] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: Try this: go back into recovery and make these dirs under /data/ubnuntu
[07:20] <Hashcode> er /data/ubuntu
[07:20] <SpeeDeh> finally my tablet has the correct time =D
[07:20] <Hashcode> dev, sys and run
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> i dont have /data/ubuntu at all
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> o.o
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> you're getting further than i am i guess
[07:21] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: You need to reflash the big (500MB) zip
[07:21] <wgrant> Make sure you have enough space :)
[07:21] <zack> which image is the correct one for a nexus 7 tablet?
[07:21] <PhantomGamers> what 500MB zip
[07:21] <SpeeDeh> but i still cant delete the sample content
[07:21] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[07:22] <zack> thanks
[07:22] <vanhoof> fourfthawaiian: you're on n7, yeah?
[07:22] <PhantomGamers> i never flashed that
[07:22] <wgrant> zack: The N7's codename is 'grouper'
[07:22] <Hashcode> lol
[07:22] <Hashcode> That'd do it :P
[07:22] <kemcafe> hi guys, can i sync contact with a google account or other ones?
[07:22] <wgrant> zack: But if you use the phablet-flash tool it'll do that for you
[07:23] <zack> i'm trying to mulitboot
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> dling now
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> if this is the reason it wasnt working...
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> herp
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> it probably was
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> ^ those are the only 2 i flashed
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> so flash armhf and then flash the build?
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> or the other way arounf?
[07:23] <PhantomGamers> or does it matter?
[07:23] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: Shouldn't matter
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> i flashed them in the order i just copied
[07:23] <SpeeDeh> only cause its alphabetical
[07:24] <wgrant> PhantomGamers: But quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip is the one that contains the actual Ubuntu installation
[07:24] <wgrant> Everything else is just boot bits
[07:24] <omac> ImmutableObject:  make sure your phone is plugged into a power supply, and make sure your computer has a UPS(uninterruptible Power Supply).  That's the way to mitigate screwing up the recipe half-way through.  The phone can't go off because of low-battery and the computer won't go off if there's a power outage.
[07:24] <Hashcode> I flashed the build.zip and then the phablet rootfs one
[07:24] <PhantomGamers> pushing to sdcard
[07:24] <SpeeDeh> there are several files, did i really only need 2?
[07:24] <Hashcode> There really should be a way to see what's going on after chroot
[07:25] <schasch> omac : woll reboot my host...
[07:26] <omac> schasch:  I didn't understand.  clarify "woll reboot my host"
[07:26] <ImmutableObject> omac: thanks, I guess I'll make sure to use an always on usb port in case
[07:26] <mike253> hey hashcode, hows it goin?
[07:26] <Hashcode> sorta working through it
[07:26] <Hashcode> no screen yet
[07:27] <mike253> need any help for m-devices?
[07:27] <Hashcode> not yet :)
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> Camera, video decoding and audio output do not function
[07:28] <mike253> lol alright man, d4 pretty much ready to be tested just did a fresh backup
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> Now i see why
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> that makes me sad
[07:28] <mike253> lol @SpeeDeh its basically like a placeholder
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> lol
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> so basically every app
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> does not function
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> at all
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> wait
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> photos works
[07:28] <SpeeDeh> thats it
[07:28] <mike253> phone works as well
[07:29] <SpeeDeh> i have a tablet
[07:29] <mike253> from what ive seen on the gsm tab
[07:29] <mike253> not tab but nexus lol
[07:29] <schasch> omac : could you tell me your LINE incl. IS from lsusb and your /dev/* name from 9250?
[07:29] <mike253> but yeah.. thats a big prob lol
[07:29] <wgrant> Camera and audio don't work on the N7, but should work on the others AFAIK
[07:29] <SpeeDeh> i think for some reason i have a phone version installed
[07:29] <PhantomGamers> still no screen hmmm
[07:29] <schasch> or someene else?
[07:29] <SpeeDeh> wgrant, ya, just N7 =(
[07:30] <mike253> @SpeeDeh check out the one you downloaded?
[07:30] <meetingology> mike253: Error: "SpeeDeh" is not a valid command.
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> In rare circumstances, the Nexus4 may get into a state where it may not boot at all after the battery is drained ( even into recovery ). If this happens, the only way to restore it is to disassemble the back of the phone and unplug/plug the battery connector.
[07:30] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: "N7 runs in portrait mode by default" - i take this to mean "it runs like a phone"
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> i am too a valid command
[07:30] <ali1234> since there's only one root filesystem
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> who said i was invalid
[07:30] <x1nux> hi
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> this is an outrage
[07:30] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, i have everything in /data/ubuntu
[07:30] <omac> schasch:  I don't have any of these Nexus devices.   Ask somebody else here to provide you with Galaxy Nexus config file stuff.
[07:30] <mike253> lolol i seen that on the warning stuff
[07:30] <SpeeDeh> ali, i think so too
[07:31] <x1nux> can i install ubuntu-phone in Samsung Galaxy S2 and S3 ?
[07:31] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: look in /data/ubuntu/sys, proc and dev to make sure those are mounted
[07:31] <Hashcode> er
[07:31] <ali1234> x1nux: no not yet
[07:31] <schasch> omac : ok, thanks
[07:31] <Hashcode> if you can adb in
[07:31] <PhantomGamers> i can
[07:31] <x1nux> ali1234,  ok Thks !
[07:31] <PhantomGamers> they are mounted
[07:31] <mike253> x1nux if you can port it
[07:31] <PhantomGamers> no screen though
[07:31] <Hashcode> hrm
[07:32] <SpeeDeh> not gonna lie, the lack of a persistent back button is annoying for contacts/photos
[07:32] <mike253> hashcode is the porting guide going to be any use too us? i mean we have the cm10.1 kernel n all thanks to you lol
[07:32] <PhantomGamers> if it helps us get a screen it will lol
[07:32] <schasch> hello, could someone tell/print me the line in lsusb and the /dev/_name? from 9250 gnex with installed ubuntu-phone ?
[07:32] <x1nux> but can be done .. Installing Ubuntu on the Samsung S3 and S2? ...
[07:32] <Hashcode> mike253: and we'll need the kexec kernel it looks like.  there's a set of config items that need to be on.
[07:32] <mike253> SpeeDeh i bet lol i tried it out on the nexus it was irritating
[07:33] <haxxa> Hello
[07:33] <PhantomGamers> for some reason it takes ages for adb to detect the device
[07:33] <Hashcode> hm
[07:33] <haxxa> Just installed Ubuntu on GNexus :D
[07:33] <SpeeDeh> yeah... up > back > next contact > up > back > next contact
[07:33] <PhantomGamers> my kmsg is spanish
[07:33] <PhantomGamers> tssinsaecagdfo ildt otso
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> what does that mean
[07:34] <mike253> hashcode: what type of config files that are needed? and have you talked to dhacker bout it lol?
[07:34] <haxxa> Anyone got any idea how to close apps? I'm unsure
[07:34] <wgrant> Do a long swipe from the bottom
[07:34] <Hashcode> mike253: need to enable some kernel options
[07:34] <schasch> haxxa : me too, but adb is not working:
[07:34] <wgrant> To the settings/menu icon
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> tssinsaecagdfo ildt otso
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.834 nt bnussinsaecagdfo otso osatn
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.847 nt adigsatn vn
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.872 nt bnussinsaecagdfo trigt r-tr
[07:34] <PhantomGamers> 6[ 5.895 nt bnussinsaecagdfo r-tr osand
[07:34] <wgrant> Where you can hit the close button
[07:34] <schasch> haxxa :  could you tell/print me the line in lsusb and the /dev/_name? from 9250 gnex with installed ubuntu-phone ?
[07:35] <haxxa> sure
[07:35] <Kopik> Hi, Im trying to install on nexus 7 from Ubuntu on VirtualBox, after it pushes autodeploy.zip it states that device has to be unlocked, device goes to fastboot (where it states "LOCK STATE - UNLOCKED") and then nothing happens, any ideas?
[07:35] <haxxa> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100 Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1]
[07:35] <mike253> hashcode: when was the last time kexec was worked on lol? from the github it says ~4 months or so lol.
[07:35] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I'm not seeing that :p
[07:36] <wgrant> Kopik: Check your USB passthrough filters. fastboot appears as a different device ID
[07:36] <PhantomGamers> i think satan possessed my phone
[07:36] <matrix> hi >(
[07:36] <mike253> Kopik: might have to do it from ubuntu natively or from a live cd..
[07:36] <PhantomGamers> 34149]Snosust ff
[07:36] <SpeeDeh> wonder how these canonical people about having all their contact info posted
[07:36] <SpeeDeh> lol
[07:36] <Hashcode> mike253: I'm rebuilding it
[07:36] <Hashcode> https://github.com/STS-Dev-Team/kernel_mapphone_kexec/commits/stock-ics
[07:36] <PhantomGamers> i dont think this is an actual language
[07:36] <x1nux> well .. i will wait ... ubuntu installation in S2 and S3 ...
[07:36] <haxxa> wgrant I'm still sort of confused - I'm sorry for been a pain but do you mind going into a tad more detail - sorry
[07:36] <x1nux> Bye Thks !
[07:37] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: i don't think they are real people
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> they all have photos
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> and valid emails
[07:37] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  ( 1742): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libubuntu_application_api.so' not found
[07:37] <PhantomGamers> im getting that in logcat
[07:37] <wgrant> haxxa: If you swipe up from the bottom of the screen with your right thumb, you'll see a menu button thing part way up the screen
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> the phone numbers appear to be their business lines though
[07:37] <SpeeDeh> however, they could all be fake =)
[07:37] <gattinthahat> has anyone flashed this on toro?
[07:37] <Hashcode> You're getting farther than me then
[07:37] <haxxa> In an app?
[07:37] <wgrant> haxxa: Yes
[07:38] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: I'm still hung up waiting for something in logcat
[07:38] <gattinthahat> I would love to flash on toro even if radio isnt working
[07:38] <schasch> haxxa : thanks for lsusb: and the /dev/???-name ?
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> balls
[07:38] <ziff> hello, just loaded ubuntu phone on my galaxy nexus and the time is wrong is there a way to correct this?
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> my device froze
[07:38] <schasch> haxxa : is yout sdb shell working?
[07:38] <mike253> Hashcode: i didnt even notice that..  now is that leading up to the ubuntu recently or just time to work on it?
[07:38] <PhantomGamers> maybe i should try my build with the newer kernel-headers for shits and giggles
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> ziff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Sample_content
[07:38] <haxxa> yes
[07:38] <faninx_> working
[07:38] <SpeeDeh> scroll down to timezone
[07:38] <schasch> haxxa : s/sdb/adb
[07:38] <Hashcode> mike253: I needed to rebuilt it from the ground up anyway
[07:38] <matrix> touch don work
[07:39] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: can you post a logcat?
[07:39] <matrix> on nexus7
[07:39] <SpeeDeh> it works on my nexus 7
[07:39] <SpeeDeh> just not very well
[07:39] <SpeeDeh> at all
[07:39] <gattinthahat> anyone here no how to install on toro?  I dont mind if the radio is broken
[07:39] <PhantomGamers> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1704884/ Hashcode
[07:39] <wgrant> matrix: Which screen are you on?
[07:40] <wgrant> matrix: If it's the "14 new tweets" one, swipe from the side to unlock
[07:40] <matrix> 14 tweets
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> im not getting the CYANOGEN text anymore but i was before i flashed the data zip
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> oh
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> i am
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> im just blind
[07:40] <Hashcode> Wow, your modem is so chatty
[07:40] <mike253> Hashcode: gotcha. last time i was on the cm10.1 kernel google+ would just start fcing on me lol so i switched back to cm10 12/18 i believe.
[07:40] <matrix> ohhhh
[07:40] <matrix> txs
[07:40] <PhantomGamers> it is lol
[07:40] <haxxa> wow closing apps seems ridiculous, I should be able to close all apps with one button otherwise os feeels solid so far
[07:41] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  (  473): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libis_compat_layer.so' not found
[07:41] <PhantomGamers> that might be a problem too
[07:42] <SpeeDeh> every time i unplug from USB i get a settings page
[07:43] <SpeeDeh> how do i access that page normally
[07:43] <mike253> Hashcode: Is there any way to "backport" the drivers? some keys dont work correctly for cm10 and i would like to backport them so i can have some functionality back. is that possible?
[07:43] <mike253> SpeeDeh: check the notifications bar?
[07:43] <haxxa> Also I made all these new friends and now I live in london according to the ubuntu os - thats cool with me
[07:43] <SpeeDeh> nothin
[07:43] <SpeeDeh> i get individual settings if i hover over sound, etc
[07:43] <schasch> haxxa : my adb is sya "no device" your dev name is /dev/libmtp-1-1 ? or wich one?
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> but when i unplug, i get this large android style page
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> with large icons
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> of settings
[07:44] <matrix> how back pages _
[07:44] <SpeeDeh> matrix: swipe up from bottom
[07:44] <mike253> SpeeDeh: too bad that dont have a way of taking a logcat like how you can on android..
[07:44] <matrix> okok
[07:45] <haxxa> just reinstall abd and reboot otherwise just install a temp ubuntu install on your comp
[07:45] <SpeeDeh> itll get there eventually
[07:46] <Hashcode> This is my problem
[07:46] <Hashcode> execve("/sbin/init", ["/sbin/init", "--verbose"], [/* 7 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:46] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[07:46] <Hashcode> I have no sbin dir
[07:46] <Hashcode> in /data/ubuntu
[07:46] <Hashcode> I wonder if I have kind of a screwy install
[07:47] <PhantomGamers> yeah you should have one
[07:47] <haxxa> anything else I should know or have fun with the new os - I plan to an app soon after...
[07:47] <PhantomGamers> i do
[07:47] <vanhoof> vanhoof@brooklynzoo:~$ adb shell ls /data/ubuntu/sbin -d
[07:47] <vanhoof> /data/ubuntu/sbin
[07:47] <kemcafe> is there any way to sync my contact from a google account guys, thanks
[07:47] <vanhoof> Hashcode: ^
[07:47] <Hashcode> yeah
[07:48] <Hashcode> that's probably why I didn't have a dev/sys/proc dir
[07:48] <haxxa> can we connect usb?
[07:48] <Hashcode> I'm not getting my rootfs stuff here
[07:48] <haxxa> So I can transfer things
[07:48] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: is the /sbin dir a copy or a mount?
[07:49] <PhantomGamers> seems to be a copy
[07:49] <PhantomGamers> maybe im wrong though
[07:49] <PhantomGamers> how do i check 100%?
[07:50] <ali1234> kemcafe: no
[07:50] <Hashcode> Oh
[07:50] <Hashcode> I see it
[07:50] <PhantomGamers> i ran ls -l and it seemed it was actually located there
[07:50] <PhantomGamers> so
[07:50] <Hashcode> This didn't seem to run correctly
[07:50] <Hashcode> from the phablet script
[07:50] <Hashcode> run_program("/sbin/mv", "/data/ubuntu_tmp_extract/binary/casper/filesystem.dir", "/data/ubuntu");
[07:50] <kemcafe> thanks
[07:50] <Savatte> hi
[07:50] <haxxa> hi
[07:51] <Savatte> is there a way to install ubuntu on my already rooted N7 directly from W8 ?
[07:51] <damian_> hmm. hey. I just installed Ubuntu on my Nexus 7, "Once completed, device should boot intu Ubuntu" - but I cant do anything once its booted up. or i just dont know how to unlock it.
[07:51] <damian_> anyone has an idea/hint for me?
[07:52] <haxxa> How come I can't use available for download apps
[07:52] <ProGEEK> right im back, how you haxx0rs getting on
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> swipe to the left
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> damian
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> haxxa i think all the available apps for download is just a teaser
[07:52] <SpeeDeh> nothing happens for me when i touch em
[07:53] <damian_> yep, a second ago it worked, but now it does not anymore, or is there a specific number of fingers i have to use
[07:53] <SpeeDeh> 13 fingers
[07:53] <damian_> ahh ok from the right end of the tablet
[07:53] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: It is located there, my flash didn't work right
[07:53] <damian_> thats complicated. :D
[07:53] <SpeeDeh> it wont be like that in the future i believe
[07:53] <SpeeDeh> its some oddity with the N7
[07:53] <Hashcode> I only have a 1GB /data partition on the KFire so I sort of haxor'd the flash of the filesystem .zip
[07:53] <PhantomGamers> ooh
[07:54] <Hashcode> I may need to re-partition
[07:54] <Hashcode> How much space is used on your /data?
[07:54] <haxxa> lol at the music aop
[07:54] <Hashcode> df
[07:54] <PhantomGamers> 5.8GB
[07:54] <PhantomGamers> apparently
[07:54] <Hashcode> er
[07:55] <Hashcode> Oh
[07:55] <Hashcode> it's combined w/ /sdcard
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> ooh
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> correct
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> hm
[07:55] <Hashcode> Can you backout the /sdcard #?
[07:55] <damian_> is there a way to get the keyboard-click-sound back? its really weird to not get any feedback while typing, at least for me..
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> how?
[07:55] <PhantomGamers> (im a bit of a linux n00b)
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> no idea damian
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> oh
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> the N7 has no audio out
[07:56] <SpeeDeh> thats why lol
[07:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> who's the dev here involved with openstreetmaps.org?
[07:56] <damian_> mh. :D
[07:56] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: how much is used by /storage/sdcard0?
[07:56] <damian_> weird: remaining charge 39% but the battery icon is already really low-red
[07:56] <PhantomGamers> can i df a specific folder?
[07:57] <haxxa> well that was fun - I'll try u out in another 6 monthes back to android for now
[07:57] <Hashcode> du -d 1 /data/ubuntu
[07:57] <Hashcode> er
[07:57] <Hashcode> well there's a ton of mounts in there
[07:57] <Hashcode> *grumble*
[07:57] <Blih> How can we update the image? They will be OTA?
[07:58] <josteink> Im probably the 100000th person to ask this
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> 4588272 /sdcard
[07:58] <josteink> but how do I enter SIM code and enable GSM?
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> 4481 MB
[07:58] <Hashcode> 5.8 for the whole thing
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> 5635 MB for whole thing
[07:58] <Hashcode> !@#@!#
[07:58] <damian_> is there a way to end running apps?.. GMail is stuck in some network error thingy
[07:58] <Hashcode> 1.2gb /data
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[07:58] <PhantomGamers> lol
[07:59] <mzanetti_> josteink: entering PIN  not supported yet. use another phone to disable the PIN on you SIM
[07:59] <PhantomGamers> du is useful
[07:59] <Hashcode> Yeah I'm fucked unless I repartition
[07:59] <josteink> mzanetti_: ugg
[07:59] <josteink> mzanetti_: right. thanks.
[07:59] <Hashcode> Or do a loopdev /data from my internal storage
[07:59] <SpeeDeh> swipe up in the app and click the lil gray icon that appears in the middle
[07:59] <SpeeDeh> then ull see an X at the bottom
[08:00] <josteink> SpeeDeh: are you talking to me?
[08:00] <Namidairo> the out folder itself will probably take another 20gb
[08:00] <Namidairo> lol
[08:00] <damian_> GMail app is a webapp? :S
[08:00] <SpeeDeh> no to damian
[08:00] <PhantomGamers> so i need to figure out where im supposed to get libubuntu_application_api.so from
[08:01] <PhantomGamers> the mako zip has it
[08:01] <damian_> thanks for your help. think ill play around a bit and revert to android until there's something "more" for my nexus 7 :)
[08:02] <Namidairo> i dont know why people are flashing a developer preview and trying to use it as a daily
[08:02] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, do you have that file in your build?
[08:02] <PhantomGamers> system/lib/libubuntu_application_api.so
[08:03] <Hashcode> no but i think it's in the filesystem dir
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> system/lib/libis_compat_layer.so too
[08:03] <Hashcode> once you're chrooted
[08:03] <Hashcode> oh hrm
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> well it's in the mako build zip
[08:03] <Hashcode> system is your actual system
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> it's not included in my system
[08:03] <PhantomGamers> for some reason
[08:04] <SpeeDeh> nami not to devalue the work that's gone into ubuntu touch, but to call this a developer build is a stretch, audio doesnt even work
[08:04] <PhantomGamers> i dont see it in the source repo anywhere
[08:04] <Hashcode> I have none of those
[08:04] <Namidairo> lol
[08:04] <PhantomGamers> so we must be missing something else too
[08:04] <SpeeDeh> if i wanted to develop for the platform, id be waiting for a bit :)
[08:04] <Namidairo> SpeeDeh: QML preview?
[08:04] <Hashcode> hm
[08:05] <wgrant> SpeeDeh: Audio should work on non-N7 devices
[08:05] <SpeeDeh> yeah
[08:05] <Hashcode> Reflashed the .zip and I have a full rootfs now
[08:05] <Hashcode> in /data/ubuntu
[08:06] <Hashcode> yeah
[08:06] <SpeeDeh> i expect good things though
[08:06] <Hashcode> E/linker  (  402): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libubuntu_application_api.so' not found
[08:06] <Hashcode> So I think
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:06] <Hashcode> that's going to be part of porting this
[08:06] <SpeeDeh> ive had ubuntu on my laptop for years
[08:06] <Hashcode> I should pull from gnex's system flash.zip
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:06] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: Have you tried pulling from mako?
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> ill pull from mako lol
[08:06] <PhantomGamers> doubt itll work
[08:07] <Hashcode> it's almost like you could flash the mako system
[08:07] <Namidairo> no
[08:07] <Hashcode> edit the build.zip's install to not format /system
[08:07] <Hashcode> and flash over it
[08:07] <Hashcode> w/ the custo one
[08:07] <Hashcode> custom one
[08:08] <Hashcode> Just the /system files Namidairo :P not boot or anything else
[08:08] <PhantomGamers> rebooting
[08:08] <PhantomGamers> no screen
[08:09] <Hashcode> Whats lib linker say?
[08:09] <PhantomGamers> waiting for adb to be picked up
[08:09] <PhantomGamers> takes a minute
[08:09] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  (  468): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library '/system/lib/libis_compat_layer.so' not found
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> same thing
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> it doesnt exist
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> it's like it got deleted
[08:10] <PhantomGamers> what
[08:11] <ziff> has anyone managed to get the phones data connections working instead of using wireless
[08:11] <PiZZaMartijn> Are there somewhere build instructions available for touch?
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> PiZZaMartijn, init, sync, build.
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> those are the instructions
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> lol
[08:12] <PiZZaMartijn> PhantomGamers: ok and where is the git?
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> i pushed the files from ubuntu adb
[08:12] <PhantomGamers> and rebooted
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> it sticks now but still no boot
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> log time
[08:14] <PiZZaMartijn> hmm i'm supposed to use git://phablet.ubuntu.com/git-repo.git ?
[08:14] <Hashcode> I'm rebooting now w/ maguro files
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> that error is gone
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> I/ServiceManager( 1352): Waiting for service UbuntuApplicationManager...
[08:14] <PhantomGamers> it's looping with that
[08:15] <Hashcode> yep
[08:15] <Hashcode> same
[08:15] <PhantomGamers> it's good that we're on the same page at least
[08:15] <derv> help
[08:15] <PhantomGamers> derv, how specific
[08:15] <PhantomGamers> :P
[08:15]  * PhantomGamers gives derv help.
[08:16] <baaba> how do i get root on the ssh connection opened through qt creator?
[08:16] <Hashcode> I have a feeling we don't have all of the files we need
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> thatd likely
[08:16] <derv> hahah well I guess adb isnt picking up my galaxy nexus
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> thats*
[08:16] <baaba> it looks like dpkg-dev is missing (no dh_make)
[08:16] <baaba> i mean, not installed
[08:16] <PhantomGamers> i wonder if this is something we're doing wrong or if the repo is messed up
[08:17] <PhantomGamers> E/linker  ( 2565): ics/linker.c:1598| WARNING: Skipping libc.so im seeing this too
[08:17] <PhantomGamers> quite a bit
[08:18] <digim0nk> any info on how the OS can be ported to other devices
[08:18] <Hashcode> yeah
[08:18] <Hashcode> the linker messages are.. odd
[08:18] <Kyle> digim0nk: Pretty sure they're releasing a chunk today
[08:18] <SpeeDeh> baaba: dpkg-reconfigure works
[08:18] <PhantomGamers> are you seeing the same libc warning?
[08:18] <Kyle> digim0nk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting -- watch this I suppose
[08:18] <PhantomGamers> my build actually has a libc.so though
[08:19] <Hashcode> mine too
[08:19] <digim0nk> Kyle: Motorola Xoom ??
[08:19] <PhantomGamers> this log could be more verbose lol
[08:19] <Hashcode> oh
[08:19] <Hashcode>  /system/bin/ubuntuappmanager
[08:19] <NameAlwaysInUse> Hello
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> oh
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> i dont have that
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> hmm
[08:20] <Hashcode> its in the maguro build
[08:20] <NameAlwaysInUse> i just have a question to the installation on a nexus 4 can someone /w me?
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> and the mako
[08:20] <SpeeDeh> hashcode what are u guys doin
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> porting
[08:20] <baaba> SpeeDeh: hmm?
[08:20] <PhantomGamers> time to copy that too
[08:20] <SpeeDeh> they are doing a presentation on that in 7 hours =D
[08:20] <baaba> SpeeDeh: i'm not entirely sure how dpkg-reconfigure will help me; i'm trying to build a c++ project
[08:21] <baaba> but it fails on missing dh_make
[08:21] <PhantomGamers> who wants to wait for that ;P
[08:21] <baaba> i assume that's because dpkg-dev isn't installed
[08:21] <SpeeDeh> baaba: make sense
[08:21] <SpeeDeh> makes*
[08:21] <baaba> but now i need to get root so i can actually install it
[08:21] <Hashcode> I have screen :)
[08:21] <PhantomGamers> if my adb wasnt acting up i probably would too
[08:21] <PhantomGamers> haha
[08:21] <NameAlwaysInUse> hmm ok why my screen is black after installing on n4? and how can i fix it
[08:21] <baaba> but i'm not sure how
[08:21] <SpeeDeh> baaba: ubuntu_chroot shell
[08:22] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, we need to figure out why these files arent included in the build itself
[08:22] <Hashcode> so apparently this process works :)
[08:22] <baaba> ah, thanks
[08:22] <Hashcode> yeah those are missing oddly
[08:22] <Hashcode> Look I have 14 tweets
[08:22] <SpeeDeh> what device u on hashcode
[08:22] <PhantomGamers> i dont have a screen
[08:22] <Hashcode> Kindle Fire
[08:22] <PhantomGamers> hm
[08:23] <ali1234> lol this is terrible
[08:23] <ali1234> how do i go back in the browser?
[08:23] <ProGEEK> NameAlwaysInUse, try rebooting into recover, and wiping data, and
[08:23] <ProGEEK> *cache
[08:23] <SpeeDeh> swipe up
[08:23] <SpeeDeh> then click back
[08:23] <Hashcode> So this will run on 512MB ram
[08:23] <ali1234> LOL
[08:23] <Hashcode> MemFree:            5288 kB
[08:24] <ali1234> it doesn't work
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> oh
[08:24] <Namidairo> free
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> it didnt stick for me
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> again
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> swipe up from the bottom
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> to expose the menu
[08:24] <fish1209> this only work on the nexus so far?    going to try it on my LG Intuition
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> nvm it did im retarded
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, did you just adb push it?
[08:24] <Namidairo> fish1209: enjoy your brick
[08:24] <Hashcode> yes but make sure to set perm
[08:24] <fish1209> lol bricked it once no biggie
[08:24] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: i did that. i see "back". i press it. nothing happens, browser does not go back
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> maybe i need to do that lol
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> ah
[08:24] <PhantomGamers> what is it supposed to be? 755?
[08:24] <Namidairo> theres no way it will work
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> it went back for me
[08:24] <SpeeDeh> i went to google!
[08:25] <Kyle> fish1209: don't even bother until someone ports it..
[08:25] <Namidairo> anyway
[08:25] <fish1209> Kyle, ok
[08:25] <Namidairo> how come that stuff isn't a package_include
[08:25] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: i signed in to gmail, which offered me "get the app" so i clicked it
[08:25] <Hashcode> yeah 755
[08:25] <Kyle> fish1209: because in it's current state, it'll 100% not work for your device since the builds right now are meant for the nexus devices
[08:25] <SpeeDeh> it tries to load the itunes page
[08:25] <SpeeDeh> dont do that
[08:25] <ali1234> SpeeDeh: it refered me to a itms link, which brings up an error, and i cannot back
[08:25] <SpeeDeh> lol
[08:25] <ProGEEK> lol SpeeDeh i hit that one last night
[08:25] <Hashcode> It's fairly smooth on the kfire
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> lol
[08:26] <ali1234> and now there is no way out
[08:26] <fish1209> Kyle, yeah was thinking that after looking at wiki
[08:26] <Kyle> well, most of the builds, Hashcode :p
[08:26] <ProGEEK> kill the app
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> swipe up farther till you see a button pop up
[08:26] <Namidairo> now see if the screenshot shortcut still works
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> swipe to the button
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> there
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> we have screen
[08:26] <SpeeDeh> and click the X in the bottom when the page pops up
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, i love you
[08:26] <Hashcode> This dummy data is funny
[08:26] <Namidairo> otherwise, just ddms a screenshot out
[08:26] <Hashcode> :)
[08:26] <AlanBell> !lola | Hashcode
[08:26] <ali1234> i did that
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> my screen seems to be frozen
[08:26] <PhantomGamers> nvm
[08:27] <ProGEEK> so what two devices have just been semi-ported ?
[08:27] <ali1234> gmail mobile is completely rubbish compared to the android app
[08:27] <ProGEEK> KFire and ?
[08:27] <SpeeDeh> sure is ali
[08:27] <Hashcode> S3
[08:27] <ProGEEK> neato
[08:27] <Hashcode> There's a hitch to the KFire tho
[08:27] <ProGEEK> you haxxors
[08:27] <ali1234> and this swipe interface is confusing as hell
[08:27] <PhantomGamers> does wifi not work?
[08:27] <Hashcode> I need to talk to the devs about getting the ro.sf.hw.rotation stuff in
[08:27] <Kyle> Hashcode: Hmm, someone already hacked a copy to work on the S3?
[08:28] <gattinthahat> not very impressed with the developer preview wished more things were working
[08:28] <Hashcode> I'm fairly sure PhantomGamers is on a S3
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> yes
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> i am
[08:28] <bhoj> ali1234, it just takes you to mobile page of gmail ... its reminds me of gmail on nokia n72 but things will change soon :)
[08:28] <Kyle> PhantomGamers: having fun?
[08:28] <Namidairo> the d2vzw though
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> ^
[08:28] <Namidairo> not the international one
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> Kyle, yeah
[08:28] <AlanBell> gattinthahat: it is more of a "people at MWC" preview than a developer preview
[08:28]  * Kyle has a d2vzw :p
[08:28] <ProGEEK> now, get it running on my toaster and i'll love you long time
[08:28] <PhantomGamers> you should join #verizons3
[08:28] <ali1234> AlanBell: i can't believe they're actually going to show this to people
[08:28] <Namidairo> lol
[08:29] <PhantomGamers> how to turn screen off
[08:29] <Hashcode> I was just thinking this
[08:29] <Namidairo> yeah it seems a bit rough to show at mwc
[08:29] <Hashcode> I can't turn the screen off
[08:29] <gattinthahat> yeah i know still wished there was more,  however if they realease some more i would be very interested in running it
[08:29] <Namidairo> but then again last time all they were showing was it running on a galaxy nexus
[08:29] <ProGEEK> Hashcode, bucket of cold water should turn the screen off :p
[08:29] <Namidairo> which for one, actually has soun working
[08:29] <SpeeDeh> maybe they have an even more top secret version running @ MWC
[08:29] <Hashcode> I should check sound
[08:29] <Kyle> ^^ Wouldn't surprise me :/
[08:29] <ProGEEK> all seriousness though, are the butten events right for those devices ?
[08:29] <Hashcode> Lol ProGEEK
[08:29] <Hashcode> my touch is fine
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> thats what she said
[08:30] <NameAlwaysInUse> ProGEEK i have tried it... but the same
[08:30] <Hashcode> >.>
[08:30] <Namidairo> touch should be fine, but the buttons are usually gpios are they not
[08:30] <ProGEEK> you dunked it in a bucket of water ?
[08:30] <Hashcode> Well
[08:30] <Hashcode> I have 1 button :P
[08:30] <ali1234> what is the orange line at the bottom of the screen supposed to represent?
[08:30] <Hashcode> and it's a power button
[08:30] <Namidairo> lol
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> that u can swipe
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> like android
[08:30] <SpeeDeh> or IOS dots
[08:30] <ProGEEK> can you listen for events in ubuntu when you press that button ?
[08:30] <Namidairo> please don't bring iOS analogies into this
[08:31] <SpeeDeh> but its 100% the same
[08:31] <gattinthahat> it  shows what screen you are on
[08:31] <ali1234> oh lol it does different things depending if you swipe from the edge or from the mddle
[08:31] <ali1234> i thought it was just randomly doing stuff
[08:31] <ProGEEK> lol ali1234
[08:31] <Hashcode> wonder how I get my wifi up
[08:31] <ProGEEK> take it you didnt watch the promo videos lol
[08:31] <Namidairo> im syncing the last repo and its taking forever
[08:31]  * Namidairo claps at his 90kb/s speeds
[08:31] <Hashcode> not even a little
[08:31] <Hashcode> Ok I did :P
[08:31] <josteink> is SMS supposed to work?
[08:32] <ProGEEK> Namidairo, 78KiBs here :p
[08:32]  * josteink has two factor auth with google, but Im not getting anything
[08:32] <SpeeDeh> bed time nn
[08:32] <ali1234> ProGEEK: why would i do that? nobody who actually buys this will do that
[08:32] <ali1234> if i have to watch a 30 minute video to learn how to use it, it has failed
[08:32] <Namidairo> I still have to repartition this and backup my /data
[08:32] <ProGEEK> ali1234, cause its a developer preview, most people research an experimental OS before installing it
[08:32] <Hashcode> Is rotation supposed to work?
[08:32] <SpeeDeh> when you introduce a new method of interacting with the device, you need to be shown
[08:33] <SpeeDeh> but the video is only 4:30 long
[08:33] <ali1234> Hashcode: no
[08:33] <Hashcode> Okie
[08:33] <Namidairo> sensors are dummy too
[08:33] <Hashcode> Ah
[08:33] <SpeeDeh> technically its 6:30 but only the first 4:30 is the demo
[08:33] <vanhoof> Hashcode: does on grouper
[08:33] <Hashcode> So I'm assuming real ports will probably require some interaction layer
[08:33] <ali1234> why does it say "search" in top left?
[08:33] <ali1234> how do i access that?
[08:33] <Hashcode> IE: for sensors, camera, etc
[08:33] <ProGEEK> ali1234, you cant yet
[08:33] <vanhoof> Hashcode: pull down the top layer slightly and move right and left for settings
[08:34] <ali1234> oh :(
[08:34] <ali1234> what is it supposed to do?
[08:34] <Namidairo> laggy Hashcode?
[08:34] <ProGEEK> well, not on my version anyway
[08:34] <Hashcode> no
[08:34] <ProGEEK> Hashcode, used memory, active or cached ?
[08:34] <Namidairo> yes, adb shell then post the output of free
[08:35] <Hashcode> This is meminfo
[08:35] <Hashcode> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ir3HAGhL
[08:35] <Hashcode> and this is free
[08:35] <Hashcode> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ytNE6rk1
[08:36] <ProGEEK> ah so 68 megs is cached ram, the rest is in use
[08:36] <gattinthahat> well gotta have a phone flash back to android then time to sleep
[08:36] <Hashcode> My HD codec binary uses a fairly large chunk atm
[08:36] <Kyle> back ups are fun
[08:36] <Hashcode> It should be less, but I can't recompile it
[08:36] <Hashcode> unless TI open sources their ducati stuff (psst ndec)
[08:36] <AlanBell> ali1234: I think it is probably demonstratable with a script of actions you perform, depart from the script at your peril ;)
[08:37] <Namidairo> who the heck runs their znc off aws
[08:37] <Hashcode> Looks like I'm running into swap slightlyu
[08:37] <ali1234> is there anything in this that works that isn't just a browser window?
[08:37] <AlanBell> photos?
[08:37] <ProGEEK> ew it has swap ?
[08:38] <Hashcode> Yes it does :P
[08:38] <ProGEEK> gag
[08:38] <Hashcode> only about 15mb tho
[08:38] <Hashcode> used currently on a 512MB ram device
[08:38] <Hashcode> *shrug*
[08:38] <ProGEEK> yes cause that makes perfect sense, 15 meg swap lol
[08:38] <Namidairo> and this is why they say 2gb min on the page for NEW devices
[08:38] <Hashcode> oh it's a100mb
[08:38] <ProGEEK> ok that makes a little more sense
[08:38] <Hashcode> 100mb swap total
[08:38] <ali1234> lol how do you go back in photos?
[08:39] <Hashcode> 1GB devices will be fine
[08:39] <Namidairo> in most cases
[08:39] <Hashcode> Maybe not for full desktop experience
[08:39] <ProGEEK> cant wait till they build in docking mode
[08:39] <AlanBell> what happens with rotation? is it always portrait or always landscape or can it dynamically change?
[08:39] <ProGEEK> i plug in my hdmi cable and nothing happens :(
[08:39] <ali1234> AlanBell: it never changes
[08:39] <ali1234> AlanBell: N10 is landscape the others are portrait
[08:39] <Hashcode> Anyway, I'm off :)
[08:40] <ProGEEK> later Hashcode
[08:40] <ProGEEK> good work man
[08:40] <Namidairo> Hashcode: watch the damned porting hangout later
[08:40] <Hashcode> I'll bug the devs at some point about the hw.rotation stuff
[08:40] <AlanBell> ali1234: ok, I thought that was the case from the videos
[08:40] <Hashcode> Yep
[08:40] <Hashcode> Need to figure out why 3 files are missing from the device build
[08:40] <Namidairo> its in about... 6 hours 20 min from now
[08:40] <ProGEEK> ditto Namidairo
[08:40] <PhantomGamers> i added the files to my devices prop files
[08:40] <PhantomGamers> so they get included in builds
[08:41] <Namidairo> are they in some common folder in vendor?
[08:41] <Hashcode> I should look
[08:41] <lewix> hi
[08:41] <ProGEEK> need to set my alarm for 4am
[08:41] <PhantomGamers> idk where they're supposed to be
[08:42] <Hashcode> But they don't seem to be "buildable"
[08:42] <kaduk> can anyone help me to restoring my andriod?
[08:42] <lewix> & good morning from italy :)
[08:42] <ali1234> can you zoom in photos?
[08:42] <lewix> maybe my question is not new: can i install ubuntu phone on nexus one too?
[08:42] <josteink> lewix: no
[08:42] <ProGEEK> ali1234, pinch
[08:42] <PhantomGamers> Hashcode, does wifi work for you?
[08:43] <ali1234> ProGEEK: doesn't work
[08:43] <josteink> lewix: only on nexus 4, galaxy nexus and nexus 7
[08:43] <ProGEEK> does for me
[08:43] <josteink> iirc
[08:43] <AlanBell> ali1234: pinch is apparently very jerky
[08:43] <ali1234> it doesn't work at all
[08:43] <kaduk> help me restoring android plz
[08:43] <ProGEEK> device ?
[08:43] <Hashcode> erm
[08:43] <ali1234> N7
[08:43] <kaduk> nexus 4
[08:43] <norbert> Is it possible to install ubuntu phone on Galaxy S3?
[08:43] <PhantomGamers> what s3
[08:43] <ProGEEK> cant help ali1234, N4
[08:44] <Hashcode> PhantomGamers: My screen has height/width reversed
[08:44] <ali1234> sometimes it goes to previous or next photo
[08:44] <Namidairo> lol
[08:44] <ProGEEK> nice
[08:44] <AlanBell> kaduk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Restoring_Android
[08:44] <PhantomGamers> my screen is fine but wifi doesnt seem to function
[08:44] <PhantomGamers> or im just doing it wrong
[08:44] <Hashcode> Well I know why
[08:44] <Hashcode> We're rotated by 270 degrees and we use a ro.sf.hw.rotation prop in surfaceflinger to fix it
[08:44] <Hashcode> apparently we're not fixing quite everything which gets passed through to Ubuntu
[08:45] <kaduk> AlanBell im stuck at instruction number 4
[08:45] <Namidairo> moreso that it probably just ignores the hell out of it
[08:45] <PhantomGamers> ubuntu doesnt seem to have any form of rotation anyway
[08:45] <lewix> @josteink oooh ok thank you
[08:45] <meetingology> lewix: Error: "josteink" is not a valid command.
[08:45] <ali1234> even calculator is just a static image
[08:45] <Namidairo> lol
[08:45] <ali1234> how hard is it to make a calculator lol
[08:46] <Namidairo> @echo fart
[08:46] <meetingology> Namidairo: Error: "echo" is not a valid command.
[08:46] <PhantomGamers> camera doesnt work for me either
[08:46] <AlanBell> kaduk: if it ends in .zip then unzip file.zip if it ends in .tgz then tar -zxvf file.tgz
[08:46] <Hashcode> if I had a choice I'd just set it landscape and be done
[08:46] <Hashcode> for the Kindle
[08:46] <AlanBell> meetingology: part #ubuntu-phone
[08:46] <Namidairo> LOL
[08:47] <Hashcode> Anyway, night guys
[08:47] <Hashcode> fun times :)
[08:47] <PhantomGamers> night man
[08:47] <PhantomGamers> thanks again :D
[08:47] <ProGEEK> right PhantomGamers, get it running on my toaster :p
[08:47] <PhantomGamers> mail me your toaster
[08:47] <norbert> I would like to try Ubuntu phone on my galaxy S3 is that possible?
[08:48] <PhantomGamers> what s3 do you have bro
[08:48] <ProGEEK> suppose i had beter go buy a toaster then lol
[08:48] <ali1234> norbert: no
[08:48] <norbert> And how can I make sure I save the firmware?
[08:48] <PhantomGamers> ._.
[08:48] <ProGEEK> ali1234, it works on PhantomGamers
[08:49] <ProGEEK> Kicking back watching Dads Army, Writing Ubuntu Phone apps, geekdom at its finest
[08:50] <norbert> PhantomGamers: I have no idea what you mean, sorry :-)
[08:50] <PhantomGamers> there's more than one galaxy s3
[08:50] <Namidairo> PhantomGamers: and that's how you tell who not to distribute your files to
[08:50] <PhantomGamers> multiple variants
[08:50] <norbert> ali1234: thanks. Too bad for me.
[08:50] <NameX> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu phone by a ubuntu desktop in virtualbox ?
[08:50] <PhantomGamers> it sounds to me like you have the i9300
[08:51] <Namidairo> thats probably what they use in... the netherlands?
[08:51] <mutantkeyboard> hello people ...
[08:51] <ProGEEK> wont "About Phone" tell you ?
[08:51] <carpediem75> hi all
[08:51] <norbert> PhantomGamers: Indeed I have a GT-i9300
[08:51] <ali1234> well time to reflash android
[08:51] <PhantomGamers> yeah so your device doesnt have ubuntu phone yet
[08:51] <Namidairo> please don't say yolo swag
[08:51] <PhantomGamers> but it probably will
[08:51] <PhantomGamers> in the future
[08:52] <carpediem75> i have installed ubuntu for tablet right now on my nexus7. do someone know where is the "off" button?
[08:52] <ProGEEK> PhantomGamers, what's yours?
[08:52] <PhantomGamers> d2vzw
[08:52] <mutantkeyboard> ali1234: just a word of gentile warning. Only limited and basic functionality is available
[08:52] <PhantomGamers> verizon galaxy s3
[08:52] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, awesome nick :D
[08:52] <starks> PhantomGamers, flashing
[08:52] <mutantkeyboard> :)
[08:52] <ali1234> mutantkeyboard: that's rather an understatement don't you think?
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> awesome :) starks
[08:53] <mutantkeyboard> carpediem75: just hold a power for a long time
[08:53] <ProGEEK> ali1234, its a Developer Preview, keyword preview
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> maybe it's just me but it feels like iphone-level smooth
[08:53] <ali1234> my main problem with this is the swipe interface
[08:53] <ali1234> PhantomGamers: on N7 it runs at about 20fps
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> albeit i find over time the iphone bogs down to performance even worse than android
[08:53] <ProGEEK> i agree ali1234, for me its a tad too sensitive
[08:53] <mutantkeyboard> :) well source will be available soon, so you can make a launcher
[08:53] <carpediem75> thanks mutantkeyboard
[08:53] <PhantomGamers> ali1234, dat shitty tegra 3 XD
[08:54] <ali1234> ProGEEK: it's not the sensitivity, it's just a confusing way to control a phone
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> no problem buddy
[08:54] <NameX> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu phone by a ubuntu desktop in virtualbox ?
[08:54] <Namidairo> mutantkeyboard: source is already available.
[08:54] <ali1234> ProGEEK: like the lack of back button everywhere
[08:54] <ProGEEK> oh thats just cause you arnt used to it lol
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> is it?
[08:54] <baaba> hmm, qmake is missing
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> going to have a look now
[08:54] <Namidairo> PhantomGamers: lets ignore the fact that the device im porting to is tegra 3
[08:54] <ProGEEK> it was like when i went back from iphone to android, i missed that bloody home button
[08:54] <baaba> but installing qt4-qmake would remove qt5-default and qtchooser
[08:54] <starks> PhantomGamers, is the d2vzw build special or is everything in the phablet zip?
[08:54] <baaba> (due to conflicts)
[08:54] <mutantkeyboard> las night I just DL'd it on my phone and reflashed, but I didn't play a lot with it
[08:54] <PhantomGamers> so for clarification wifi works for everyone else?
[08:54] <baaba> is that okay?
[08:54] <carpediem75> NameX, i did it with parallels so i suppose that virtualbox works too
[08:54] <PhantomGamers> starks, everything is in the phablet
[08:55] <ali1234> ProGEEK: the app drawer is bad. i can't see what i am about to select because my hand is in the way
[08:55] <starks> so any cm10.1/cm10.2 will do?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> 10.2?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> what
[08:55] <NameX> carpediem75 ty !
[08:55] <starks> 4.2.2 jb builds
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> thats 10.1 lol
[08:55] <starks> nightlies are 4.2.2 aren't they?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> they didnt change the name
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> :P
[08:55] <starks> oh
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> no you need to use ubuntu builds
[08:55] <ali1234> ProGEEK: the menu that comes up when you swipe from the bottom... is inconsistent and confusing
[08:55] <NameX> Does someone with a Nexus 4 got problem on install or uninstall ?
[08:55] <PhantomGamers> it's just the build itself has the device specific stuff required for it to boot
[08:55] <ProGEEK> yeah that one bugs me slightly
[08:55] <starks> ah
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[08:56] <ali1234> basically all the "innovations" this is supposed to showcase... are all bad
[08:56] <starks> rootfs tarball is big
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> yeah
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> touchwiz level almost
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> lol
[08:56] <Namidairo> ali1234: shhh, don't let the children hear
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> but guys, this is pre-alpha
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> the 50MB build file is misleading
[08:56] <baaba> doesn't look like there's a qt5-qmake on the phone repositories yet :(
[08:56] <Chinakoch> Mhmm...cannot connect my galaxy nexus; an suggestions? [  830.624130] hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> I started writing couple of apps this morning
[08:56] <starks> i'm going to test mplayer once this boots
[08:56] <mutantkeyboard> and we'll see how it behaves
[08:56] <AlanBell> ali1234: is the side shelf thing any good?
[08:56] <PhantomGamers> wifi doesnt work for me at all so i cant do anything online
[08:57] <starks> maybe my hi10p animu will finally run properly
[08:57] <Namidairo> does mplayer even have a package on the armhf ppa
[08:57] <ProGEEK> mutantkeyboard, ported SameGame to work on the Ubuntu Phone :)
[08:57] <Namidairo> AHAHAHAHAHA
[08:57] <mutantkeyboard> nice ...
[08:57] <ali1234> AlanBell: i don't know because it only works on N10
[08:57] <mutantkeyboard> :D
[08:57] <PhantomGamers> i guess mplayer isnt what i think it is
[08:57] <AlanBell> ali1234: ok
[08:57] <AlanBell> is it running X or wayland?
[08:57] <ProGEEK> and someone's ported lights off
[08:57] <Namidairo> starks: no. hi10p is a pain on all platforms.
[08:58] <ali1234> AlanBell: btw this is still better than gnome-shell
[08:58] <ali1234> AlanBell: neither
[08:58] <starks> i know. i hope the s5 can do hi10p in software and hevc in hardware
[08:58] <mutantkeyboard> ProGEEK: how do you push an app to a device? via adb or ssh or basic USB tranfer works? I didn't quite have time to read docs
[08:58] <ali1234> AlanBell: it's qt5 patched to run diretly on libhybris
[08:58] <ProGEEK> i used qt creator
[08:58] <mutantkeyboard> aha
[08:59] <AlanBell> interesting
[08:59] <ProGEEK> had a project in there, and one of the options is run on device
[08:59] <ProGEEK> OR
[08:59] <ProGEEK> ctrl+F12
[08:59] <ali1234> if this had a back button and a home button and a homescreen where i can rearrange the icons and widgets i would use it
[08:59] <Swissbite> hi guys (and ladies)
[08:59] <ProGEEK> which will transfer and run the app
[08:59] <ali1234> and if i could disable all gestures
[08:59] <mutantkeyboard> right, thanks man
[08:59] <ProGEEK> NP
[08:59] <Swissbite> Does somebody know if and how it could be installed on a samsung galaxy s3?
[08:59] <PhantomGamers> holy shit
[08:59] <NameX> What's difference with preinstalled / preinstalled boot and preinstalled recovery ???
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> does no one realize how many different s3s there are lol
[09:00] <ali1234> no of course not, why would they?
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> Swissbite, you have an i9300?
[09:00] <ali1234> just keep saying "no"
[09:00] <Swissbite> Yes.
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> no
[09:00] <Swissbite> I do.
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> you cant
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> yet
[09:00] <starks> american phones > european phones
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> american devs > european devs
[09:00] <PhantomGamers> ;)
[09:01] <Swissbite> Yet does not sounds to bad ;-)
[09:01] <Namidairo> what time is it in europe right now
[09:01] <starks> okay
[09:01] <starks> time to boot
[09:01] <starks> will you boot?
[09:01] <AlanBell> @now cet | Namidairo
[09:01] <NameX> What's difference with preinstalled / preinstalled boot and preinstalled recovery ???
[09:01] <AlanBell> gah, wrong bot. Namidairo it is about 9am in the UK
[09:02] <PhantomGamers> as long as it doesnt brick your phone im happy starks
[09:02] <Namidairo> AlanBell: you kicked out your bot
[09:02] <starks> PhantomGamers, nope no screen
[09:02] <Swissbite> The question is: where in europe. London time is now 9am, western europe (paris, switzerland, germany usw) 10 am
[09:02] <PhantomGamers> patience
[09:02] <starks> no adb
[09:02] <AlanBell> Namidairo: there are two, ubot5 is still here meetingology wasn't needed
[09:02] <Namidairo> Swissbite: a couple hours leeway is fine
[09:02] <starks> lemme wipe
[09:02] <magitronic82> when flashing do i need adb over network enabled on my phone
[09:02] <Namidairo> ...no
[09:02] <PhantomGamers> if you wipe you need to reflash quantal
[09:03] <starks> that sucks
[09:04] <Swissbite> PhantomGamers: What is the model number for an s3 in the states?
[09:04] <PhantomGamers> it varies based on carrier
[09:04] <PhantomGamers> my specific phone is sch-i535
[09:04] <RoyalPanda> Hi
[09:04] <ali1234> if i'm in gallery looking at photos and i accidentally swipe too cloce to the right edge, how do i get back to gallery after being dumped into a totally different app at random?
[09:05] <ali1234> you might think swiping the left edge would do the opposite of the right edge, but no. that takes you to the home screen
[09:05] <starks> Swissbite, r530 i747 l710 i535 t999
[09:05] <dk> how do I do a full powerdown ?   press-hold power button for 5 seconds, it goes *off* but reboots back up immediately
[09:06] <Wellark> dk: adb root && adb shell && # reboot -p
[09:06] <RoyalPanda> I have a quick question about hardware development, do I only have to add the default.xml provided there : http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android.git;a=blob;f=default.xml;hb=refs/heads/phablet-10.1, on top of a CyanogenMod repo init, in order to download and compile a full phablet rootfs and initrd ?
[09:07] <Wellark> RoyalPanda: Porting Guide should be released later today
[09:07] <RoyalPanda> Is that a no ?
[09:07] <starks> did ricardo give us everything already?
[09:07] <starks> *didn't
[09:07] <remy_mazabraud> hi
[09:07] <Wellark> RoyalPanda: that is "I don't know". :)
[09:07] <PhantomGamers> remy_mazabraud, no it doesnt work on your damn s3
[09:08] <PhantomGamers> RoyalPanda, you need to reinit with that git
[09:08] <Swissbite> quit
[09:08] <ali1234> hmm... N7 is getting nice and hot
[09:08] <Namidairo> RoyalPanda: do note that the ubuntu git is SLOW AS MOLASSES
[09:08] <Eun> Hiho, I wanted to ask if the 3G on Nexus 7 is supported or does it not work like the old attempt?
[09:09] <Namidairo> Eun: no data atm
[09:09] <RoyalPanda> Okay, thanks for the answer, I'll give a try now, then keep an eye on the porting guide page.
[09:09] <dk> right I thought doing reboot -p over ssh would work, but I see why adb shell for poweroff works
[09:09] <Eun> so same as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation?
[09:09] <remy_mazabraud> What do you things about a Porterage to other phone ? ( A samsung galaxi tab p1000) ((Sorry im french and my english is verry bad ..))
[09:10] <fadhil> ./flash-all.sh: 23: ./flash-all.sh: fastboot: not found
[09:10] <fadhil> what next?
[09:10] <Namidairo> read the instructions better
[09:10] <fadhil> help me
[09:11] <fadhil> my phone now at boot loader
[09:11] <Eun> Namidairo: thanks for info, great job answering questions here
[09:11] <Eun> bye
[09:12] <Namidairo> not sure if sarcasm
[09:12] <fish1209> lol
[09:12] <Stokk> Just checking, Ubuntu Touch has no drivers to interface with the computer to allow file transfer as of yet right?
[09:12] <ali1234> Stokk: you can transfer files on ssh
[09:13] <Wellark> Stokk: either adb push or ssh
[09:13] <kiafenghua> oh!
[09:15] <starks> wow it boots
[09:15] <starks> kinda
[09:17] <neary> is anyone working on porting ubuntu touch to the iPhone ?
[09:17] <fish1209> hope not
[09:17] <popey> not at canonical
[09:17] <popey> you're welcome to have a go though ☺
[09:17] <ProGEEK> that would be an abomination
[09:17] <ali1234> breakfast time \o/
[09:17] <Wellark> popey: XD
[09:17] <starks> i'm stuck at an unresponsive home screen
[09:18] <Namidairo> mad
[09:18] <popey> ali1234: time to fry eggs on your n7?
[09:18] <starks> running this on the verizon galaxy s3
[09:18] <wgrant> starks: Home screen as in "14 new tweets"?
[09:18] <starks> ya
[09:18] <ali1234> popey: nah, i just flashed back to android
[09:18] <wgrant> starks: You've tried swiping from the left or right?
[09:18] <starks> yes
[09:18] <ali1234> top and bottom?
[09:18] <starks> touch screen isn't responding
[09:19] <ali1234> it doesn't
[09:19] <kiafenghua> :/NICK kia
[09:19] <ali1234> unless you do the exact right gesture it doesn't do anything at all
[09:19] <starks> there we go lol
[09:19] <ali1234> i'm still not entirely sure what that gesture is, because i just ended up thrashing around on the screen until something happened
[09:19] <lool> starks: do you start from the outside of the screen?
[09:20] <usererror> you have to start from the bezel
[09:20] <lool> you need to start swiping from outside the edges
[09:20] <starks> the swiping is so not obvious lol
[09:20] <usererror> its called a bezel gesture for a reason
[09:20] <usererror> ;)
[09:20] <ali1234> what if your phone doesn't have a bezel?
[09:20] <usererror> they all do
[09:20] <starks> i have a case on lol
[09:20] <ali1234> n7 doens't have a bezel
[09:20] <usererror> its the area of the glass that does not have a display behind it
[09:20] <usererror> yes it does
[09:21] <usererror> that area is considered a bezel
[09:21] <ali1234> a bezel is a raised border
[09:21] <ali1234> my monitor has a bezel
[09:21] <usererror> it is in a picture frame or door molding, but in gestures it is not
[09:21] <ali1234> none of my phones have one though
[09:21] <lool> no need to worry about terminology, but basically you need to swipe from outside the screen into the screen
[09:21] <usererror> ^
[09:21] <lool> at the very border
[09:22] <mric> hey, is there still no way to install Ubuntu touch on the N9 ?
[09:22] <ali1234> no
[09:22] <ali1234> and what do you mean "still"