[10:17] <m4jid2> my driver installed without problem but i still dont have wifi connection
[10:17] <jrtappers> m4jid2, is it still blacklisted?
[10:17] <m4jid2> no
[10:17] <bekks> m4jid2: That does not depend on the name. And which driver did you install, and how did you do it?
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> devjustforfun_:how about you single boot ubuntu and loose w7 for good :p
[10:18] <bekks> jrtappers: Did you pastebin your dmesg output yet?
[10:18] <surio> devjustforfun_: Are you able to log into ubuntu and windows in its present state ?
[10:18] <m4jid2> broadcom sta driver i installed it from ubuntu repo from Hardware Driver GUI interface in ubuntu 10.04
 it's good but windows 7 need for test site looking in many browsers
[10:18] <bekks> m4jid2: So you are on 10.04 yet?
[10:19] <rigo> to be more specific...
[10:19] <m4jid2> LTS
[10:19] <m4jid2> yes
[10:19] <jrtappers> bekks, sent you link
[10:19] <rigo> which one should i choose the 3.6.0 or the 3.6.3?
[10:19] <jrtappers> bekks, <jrtappers> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5676727/
[10:19] <michael1> how can i download movies here/
[10:19] <bekks> rigo: For what?
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> !warez | michael1
[10:19] <surio> devjustforfun_: If you can log into windows, try making a recovery media using the recovery media creator software (usually) supplied by the oem
[10:20] <surio> ^^ either on usb or dvd
[10:20] <jrtappers> Does that include playing DVD's?
  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6dt1tenzhn2tvhw/0cDwSi0ht1
[10:20] <surio> devjustforfun_: http://pastie.org is preferred
[10:20] <rigo> for ubuntu 12.10 and xbmc frodo.
[10:21] <jrtappers> bekks, Its a casio programmable calculator
 problem is that in windows my gui not loaded
 and i don't know how software for recovery named
[10:21] <surio> How far can you boot before it fails
[10:21] <surio> Windows 7 ?
[10:21] <bekks> jrtappers: And whats the output of lsusb?
[10:22] <jrtappers> bekks, Nothing for it
 2 weeks ago
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
 finish my work not correctly and it's broken after that
[10:23] <bekks> jrtappers: I guess its in lines 691-693
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> devjustforfun_: i think what surio means is how far can your computer boot windows, until it crash
[10:24] <surio> devjustforfun_: Q1) Windows 7 ?  Q2) lotuspsychje explained if for me. lotuspsychje Thanks mate
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> surio: his w7 partition doesnt show in fstab
[10:24] <devjustforfun_> lotuspsychje no i have w7 partision
[10:24] <rigo> hm?
[10:24] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Why should it?
 but i haven't windows 7 recovery partition.
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> devjustforfun_: you just told me you have a 20gig recovery partition?
[10:25] <bekks> devjustforfun_: Then you deleted it, or the manufacturer did you create it.
 i have one and but i can't boot to recovery mode of that partition.
 i have an access to windows 7 command line
[10:27] <surio> devjustforfun_: type sudo fdisk -l and paste the output to http://pastie.org and share here
[10:27] <bekks> devjustforfun_: Because a recovery partition is not used for recovery booting - it holds the images to be burned to dvd, e.g.
[10:27] <jrtappers> bekks I don't think its an intel hub
[10:28] <surio> bekks, lotuspsychje Let him paste fdisk -l values, then we can let him take a course of action
[10:28] <jrtappers> .
[10:28] <bekks> surio: I dont see any action to take in repairing windows in here.
[10:28] <jrtappers2> bekks, This is jrtappers, network went odd
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> bekks: we can support dualboot right?
[10:29] <devjustforfun_> http://pastie.org/7925297
[10:29] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Sure we can. But he is struggling with a non-booting windows which crashes at booting into the GUI. Thats avwindows issue.
[10:30] <rigo> nevermind i install the 3.6.3 i used thatone before. until the fglrx driver will be compatible with the 13.04/13.10
[10:31] <devjustforfun_> /dev/sda1              63    45062324    22531131   1c  Hidden W95 FAT32 (LBA) that my recovery partition i think.
[10:31] <surio> devjustforfun_: You can use a tool like GParted to extract the contents of /dev/sda1
[10:31] <surio> as an img file. Then you write it to a DVD/CD and try booting from that
[10:32] <bekks> surio: That willnot work.
[10:32] <surio> If that is your recovery partition, it will automatically take you through the motions
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> devjustforfun_: and you can join ##windows to recovery help
[10:32] <surio> bekks: Not? Why ?
[10:32] <bekks> surio: _Because it is not holding a bootable dvd image.
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | devjustforfun_
[10:33] <surio> bekks: He might as will try iy
[10:33] <surio> try it
[10:34] <devjustforfun_> extract information from /dev/sda1  it's 20 GB how can i write it to cd/dvd
[10:34] <bekks> devjustforfun_: You cant.
[10:35] <devjustforfun_> maybe i should write something in GRUB configuration to add loader to recovery
[10:35] <bekks> devjustforfun_: First, you have to know how to use that recovery partition. ##windows might help.
[10:36] <surio> devjustforfun_: in that case extract first, then use dd to write to usb/flash and boot gtom that ?
[10:36] <surio> devjustforfun_: maybe bekks is right try there first
 i have flash only 8GB
[10:36] <surio> devjustforfun_: What bekks sadi. Try that other channel first
[10:37] <devjustforfun_> ok
[10:37] <devjustforfun_> i will try
[10:40] <devjustforfun_> thanks
[10:42] <voxadam> I'm trying to copy a file from a Ubuntu VM on a Windows 7 host from the VM to the host. I created a directory on my Windows desktop, shared it, but I can't mount it using
[10:43] <bekks> voxadam: Using vbox, just use vbox shared folders.
[10:43] <Dr_willis> voxadam,  or use ssh + winscp to transfer stuff.
[10:44] <Dr_willis> if its just a few things to move around
[10:44] <voxadam> I'm trying to copy a file from a Ubuntu VM on a Windows 7 host from the VM to the host. I created a directory on my Windows desktop, shared it, but I can't mount it using "sudo mount -t cifs //Drogon/Users/Adam/Desktop/test/ ~/test". All I get is a Permission Denied error
[10:44] <voxadam> SSH is a good idea
[10:44] <Dr_willis> vbox has its own special  shareing method also that i use.
[10:44] <bekks> voxadam: Using vbox, just use vbox shared folders.
[10:45] <Dr_willis> but you need the guest addations installed on the guest os.
[10:45] <Dr_willis> and you enable the special vbox shares from the vbox settinge befor you start the guest
[10:45] <bekks> voxadam: Besides that - the syntax for cifs has to be used like \\host\sharename
[10:46] <samkan> Hi, I am trying to run Dogtail, but I am getting following error, I can't record the session, can someone please guide me in right direction?
[10:46] <samkan> ile "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/dogtail/tree.py", line 526, in __getattr__
[10:46] <samkan>     return self.__component.getPosition()
[10:46] <samkan>   File "pyspi.pyx", line 757, in atspi.Component.getPosition
[10:46] <samkan> TypeError: an integer is required
[10:46] <samkan> I am getting this error while running dogtail,
[10:47] <samkan> does anyone has successfully run dogtail on ubuntu 10.04?
[10:52] <Darkchaos> Anyone here having Experience with USB-Sticks?
[10:52] <C0deX0> Darkchaos, what kind of experience?
[10:53] <Darkchaos> Having "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" while trying to boot from USB-stick (used some Windows USB Stick generator). Everything else boots fine
[10:55] <shape> Has anyone gotten Hardware Acceleration for 1080p HD working with ATI/AMD Radeon? According to this site, the feature is possible: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature But I can't get it to work for the love of God. I also hear people getting it to work. ATI mesa drivers with XVBA and with at least 4 players.
[10:56] <MysticalBurrito> I've installed ubuntu 13.04 on my desktop PC and after loging on my desktop is blank, all I have is a cursor and wallpaper displayed on my screen, i've let it stay like that for a few hours and this dosn't fix the problem
[10:57] <devjustforfun_> in windows irc nobody there or nobody want to help.
[10:57] <Dr_willis> MysticalBurrito,  seen that issue mentione in here by many differnt people with differnt hardware and setups.  I think its due to some confusion with the video card drivers
[10:57] <Dr_willis> MysticalBurrito,  what is your video card?
[10:57] <bekks> devjustforfun_: There are 441 people in that channel.
[10:57] <MysticalBurrito> This is an older PC, it's a dell Dimension 4600
[10:57] <oppa> How do you change your nickname?
[10:58] <MysticalBurrito> the graphics card is integrated
[10:58] <Dr_willis>  /nick I_like_to_read_irc_guides
[10:58] <Dr_willis> MysticalBurrito,  so:) it still has a chipset...
[10:58] <Dr_willis> lspci will show the chipset most likely
 i decide just grub windows and reinstall it from scratch use my notebook key
  and not use asus recovery
[10:59] <MysticalBurrito> Is it possible to install a different environment in a non-graphical interface?
[10:59] <oppa> oh thanks Dr_willis! sorry, i only just downloaded this
[10:59] <bekks> devjustforfun_: Then just do it, since you seem to have windows installation media handy.
 i was downloaded it few minute ago.
[11:00] <MysticalBurrito> i have a 14.04.1 CD but my 2nd IDE expansion slot is bad and won't detect my CD drives. :/
[11:00] <bekks> devjustforfun_: You wont be able to use it for installation with your OEM installation key.
[11:00] <umc> guys, I have an ubuntu server 10.04.4 LTS installed on a machine, with apache, mysql, bind, postfix, etc. Is it safe do to an upgrade ? it keeps asking me for a while... or should I install fresh ? If I upgrade, will all my services keep running ? or will it break them ?
[11:00] <bekks> MysticalBurrito: There is no 14.04.1 so far.
[11:00] <Dr_willis> MysticalBurrito,  sudo apt-get install whateveryouwant-desktop   for the differnt desktops...
[11:01] <Dr_willis> MysticalBurrito,  such as 'lubuntu-desktop'
[11:01] <oppa> Why are there so many people in this room who don't say anything?
[11:01] <MysticalBurrito> I prefer the lubuntu desktop, that is what I am running on this laptop with ubuntu right now
[11:01] <bekks> umc: Create a backup before, and then update to 12.04
[11:01] <MysticalBurrito> I meant to say I have a 12.04.1 CD
[11:02] <Dr_willis> oppa,  this channel is world wide.. so  its 7am for me.. may be 2am for others. ;)
[11:02] <MysticalBurrito> It's 6:02 AM here
[11:02] <umc> bekks: already made manual backups of config files, databases, home dirs, etc. is there an additional backup tool or something that you recommend ?
[11:02] <oppa> Ohh I see. 9pm here, stupid Australia.
[11:03] <MysticalBurrito> how do I switch to a non-graphical interface to install a new desktop environment?
 i'm downloaded exact same version of windows which appear in my bottom license label
[11:03] <Dr_willis> !text | MysticalBurrito
[11:03] <Dr_willis> MysticalBurrito,  or alt-ctrl-f1
[11:03] <bekks> !backup | umc
[11:03] <MysticalBurrito> I'll try that, thanks
[11:03] <umc> thanks bekks
[11:04] <bekks> devjustforfun_: You cant download an OEM version, since thats illegal. Having ASUS, yoiu are required to to create the recovery media for being able to reinstall your device. That, and everything else regarding the installation of windows exceeds the scope of this channel.
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> is there an extended themes package for unity i can download?
[11:07] <flux242> does somebody know what service is responsible for adding devices icons onto a Desktop? I'm trying to find a way to get rid of some devices icons but I have only found 2 solutions - either disable icons completely or to edit fstab.  Windows topics are not supported in here.
[11:08] <MysticalBurrito> Is it possible to switch to text-only mode at the login screen? I know theres a way how, but I can't rememeber the shortcut key I used to do it.
[11:08] <bekks> devjustforfun_: Contact ASUS then.
[11:08] <bekks> MysticalBurrito: ctrl alt f1
[11:08] <MysticalBurrito> Thanks
[11:09] <Steve^> How do I force Ubuntu to do a 13.04 upgrade through the GUI?
[11:09] <Dr_willis> MysticalBurrito,  alt-ctrl-f1
[11:10] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f7 to get back to the login (x) window.
[11:10] <penos> hello
[11:13] <Dr_willis> jello
[11:14] <xnode22> hi
[11:14] <phamdainghia3> hello
[11:16] <streulma> hello, any thoughts why my tv is recognised as 1024x768 vga?
[11:16] <Dr_willis> its not giving out the proper edid info to the pc perhaps.
[11:17] <Dr_willis> are you using any hdmi/vga/other adaptors?
[11:17] <streulma> no, on a Dell just vga
[11:17] <Dr_willis> So its a PC using a vga cable to a  VGA port on a normal wide screen LCD tv?
[11:18] <streulma> yes
[11:18] <p3> hello
[11:18] <streulma> with the mac it's recognised
[11:18] <Dr_willis> and your video chipset is what  streulma ?
[11:18] <Dr_willis> 'with the mac' ?
[11:18] <streulma> Intel
[11:18] <streulma> yes, with my Mac
[11:19] <Dr_willis> it pays to be a bit more verbose in what you say on IRC...
[11:19] <Dr_willis> You mean with your Apple Computer - the Widescreen tv gets the proper res with the same vga cable?
[11:20] <streulma> yes
[11:20] <streulma> but with Ubuntu it is an unknown display
[11:20] <Phryq> my current bluetooth interface only gives me an option to send files. There must be more options for bluetooth than that, right?
[11:20] <Phryq> Do I need a new GUI front end? Or what do I need t download to do more with bluetooth?
[11:23] <blue112> Hello here !
[11:23] <blue112> Some random programs are segfaulting (vlc and terminator now) without any appearing reason, directly after launch. Can you think of any reason this can happen ?
[11:24] <Ben64> bad ram
[11:24] <blue112> Ben64, why only random programs crash ?
[11:27] <leewees> when i boot ubuntu i'm getting a busybox shell that just says (initramfs)
[11:27] <leewees> it won't boot
[11:27] <blue112> leewees, sounds bad.
[11:28] <Ben64> blue112: i had similar issues, turned out to be bad ram
[11:28] <blue112> Some random programs are segfaulting (vlc and terminator now) without any appearing reason, directly after launch. Can you think of any reason this can happen ? Sounds like a GTK bug, since most gtk programs are concerned (psi, banshee...)
[11:28] <blue112> Ben64, only concerns gtk programs.
[11:28] <Ben64> you should also check hard drive, hard drive cable
[11:29] <Ben64> almost everything on ubuntu is gtk
[11:29] <usr13> leewees: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1691436
[11:30] <blue112> Ben64, I know, but when I launch banshee, it crashes saying "at (wrapper managed-to-native) Gtk.Application.gtk_init (int&,intptr&) <0xffffffff>"
[11:30] <blue112> gnome-terminal launches well
[11:30] <usr13> leewees: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112153
[11:30] <leewees> thx
[11:30] <blue112> Ben64, is there a way I can check my ram without rebooting ?
[11:30] <usr13> blue112: Have you tested your RAM?
[11:30] <blue112> usr13, not yet.
[11:31] <usr13> ?
[11:31] <usr13> blue112: memtest
[11:31] <blue112> usr13, is it available without rebooting ?
[11:31] <Ben64> no
[11:31] <usr13> no
[11:31] <blue112> Mokay
[11:31] <Ben64> and it takes hours for a good check
[11:32] <blue112> I'll reboot then, let me just find out how to launch memtest at boot time.
[11:32] <Ben64> if you see one error you can stop, because that means its bad
[11:32] <usr13> !memtest | blue112
[11:33] <Ben64> should be an option in grub, unless that has changed
[11:33] <abadi> hi i  need help i have vostro 1400 and the wilrless isn;t working
[11:33] <blue112> I'm looking for a way to make grub menu appear.
[11:33] <usr13> Esc
[11:33] <usr13> blue112: Hit the Esc key
[11:34] <blue112> ok, brb.
[11:34] <Ben64> left shift key
[11:34] <Dr_willis> press and hold shift..
[11:35] <deathmager> i need help with regards to my hp mini 2133,
[11:35] <deathmager> i can't connect to a wireless internet connection
[11:35] <deathmager> i'm using xubuntu 12.04
[11:36] <deathmager> please i need help
[11:38] <Dr_willis> and what wireless chipset is it using?
[11:41] <blue112> Back.
[11:41] <blue112> Doesn't seem to be any bad ram.
[11:42] <blue112> Well, actually gtk programs work again, so, I don't know.
[11:42] <silv3r_m00n1> a partition is mounted like this through fstab, UUID=13f35f59-f023-4d98-b06f-9dfaebefd6c1 /media/13f35f59-f023-4d98-b06f-9dfaebefd6c1/               ext4    errors=remount-ro,auto,exec,rw,user 0       0    but still cannot execute files on that partition, why ?
[11:42] <silv3r_m00n1> the exec option is there
[11:42] <blue112> Maybe just a ponctual bug.
[11:44] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[11:45] <PrototypeX29A> i just got forced to do a dist-upgrade to 12.04. shouldn't be there a possibility to do another one?
[11:45] <PrototypeX29A> none are shown in the update manager
[11:46] <Daekdroom> PrototypeX29A, is your software sources configured to display only LTS updates?
[11:46] <PrototypeX29A> 13.04 should be out be now, right?
[11:46] <PrototypeX29A> Daekdroom: i didn't configure it that way
[11:46] <Dr_willis> it only suggests lts to lts updates..
[11:46] <Daekdroom> Yeah, but you should be displayed a12.10 update
[11:46] <Daekdroom> And it's configured to display LTS only updates by default.
[11:46] <Dr_willis> you can go to 12.10 then 13.04 if you want
[11:47] <PrototypeX29A> but my configuration usually gets fridged with every dist-upgrade so i won't rule out it got that setting by a bug
[11:47] <Daekdroom> It's been the default for quite awhile. No bug.
[11:49] <PrototypeX29A> Daekdroom: didn't even know it is possible to go directly from one LTS to another
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n1> is /etc/fstab deprecated ? ubuntu does not seem to use the mount options specified in the file and mounts it own way
[11:50] <SwedeMike> silv3r_m00n1: I use fstab anyway, and it does what I expect it to do.
[11:50] <silv3r_m00n1> i wrote this, UUID=13f35f59-f023-4d98-b06f-9dfaebefd6c1 /media/13f35f59-f023-4d98-b06f-9dfaebefd6c1/               ext4    errors=remount-ro,auto,exec,rw,user 0       0   but it mounts the partition with noexec
[11:51] <SwedeMike> silv3r_m00n1: try mounting it outside of /media to make sure. umount it manually, then mount it using only "mount <path>"
[11:53] <silv3r_m00n1> did, still mounts with noexec
[11:56] <PrototypeX29A> ok, i managed to unlock the non-LTS-upgrades and now I am stuck again with the message box asking me "Do you want to start the upgrade" unfortunately this box is too big for my screen and i don't know how to proceed
[11:57] <PrototypeX29A> blindly hitting tab and enter did the job, still this i would consider a usability-issue :D
[11:57] <Dr_willis> PrototypeX29A,  its bigger then your X display? thats weird.. You can alt-click and drag dialogs around until you see the OK button perhaps
[11:58] <PrototypeX29A> Dr_willis: i already managed to proceed, tansk
[11:58] <PrototypeX29A> thanks
[12:00] <hio> does anyone in the entire universe like unity?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> unity works very well for me.. and the wife and grandkids have no issues with it.
[12:01] <llutz> hio: who cares, don't use it if you don't like it
[12:01] <hio> there isn't even any visual cue when I click on an icon
[12:01] <PrototypeX29A> hio: i still use gnome
[12:02] <PrototypeX29A> unity didn't stay more than half an hour with me
[12:02] <PrototypeX29A> going to try mate soon, i guess
[12:02] <hio> and then the retarded decision to emulate the global top menu like MacOS does. Just because. There is no actual benefit, but it's c00l, so what right?
[12:03] <ceti331_> i use unity mainly for that reason. i grew up on the Amiga which had a mac style menu -  i have always utterly despised the windows menu style
[12:03] <llutz> take the "i like/i dislike" to #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[12:03] <hio> ceti331_, no offense but if you like using Macs, I think you just disqualified yourself as a human being
[12:03] <Dr_willis> with the gnome devs in 3.8 gnome having their own official gnome2 ish theme/mode.. i imagine these other gnome2 forks will vanish
[12:04] <ceti331_> hio, where did i say mac?
[12:04] <ceti331_> i said AMIGA
[12:04] <ceti331_> and i dislike the windows menu style
[12:04]  * Dr_willis recalls global menu type things befor Mac..
[12:04] <Dr_willis> ;)
[12:04] <hio> Amiga, is that like itunes?
[12:04] <ceti331_> Amiga, AtartST, NeXT (and mac) all didn't have the windows style menu
[12:04] <hio> I'm just messing with you, sorry ;)
[12:05] <ceti331_> global-menu is a good decision in ubuntu unity
[12:05] <light32> yeah thats right
[12:06] <hio> yeah if you like shitty decisions, I guess the global menu is a good decision
[12:06] <ceti331_> fittts law ftw
[12:06] <ceti331_> it avoids wasting screenspace for menus on unfocussed windows
[12:06] <Dr_willis> hio,  please troll elsewhere.. and rant where people care.. (not here)
[12:06] <hio> yeah, those 20pixels are really making the difference
[12:06] <ceti331_> hio, its clutter
[12:06] <hio> you save 20 pixels, you lose normal interaction that everybody on the planet knows and loves
[12:09] <hio> you cant deny that ubuntu lost tons of mindshare after they switched to unity
[12:09] <llutz> !ot
[12:09] <vassy> is anyone using rvm?
[12:09] <cloneG> is there something like this for ubuntu: http://www.techpowerup.com/184113/techpowerup-gpu-z-0-7-1-released.html
[12:12] <Dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[12:20] <cloneG> okay any comfortable gui to manage hwinfo?
[12:20] <PrototypeX29A> it looks like some of the bugs i reported in launchpad are gone (not fixed, but the reports are gone)
[12:21] <PrototypeX29A> ist there some kind of filter i am missing?
[12:22] <x-fak> hello
[12:22] <hio> hello
[12:22] <hio> How can we help you today?
[12:22] <OerHeks> PrototypeX29A, you might want to try #launchpad
[12:23] <x-fak> i try to install ubuntu12 inside a vm and it's locked here: http://xfaktor.free.fr/install_ubuntu12_vmware.jpg
[12:23] <cloneG> hello I am looking for a comfortable graphic card real time info program for ubuntu something like :http://www.techpowerup.com/184113/techpowerup-gpu-z-0-7-1-released.html
[12:23] <hio> cloneG, I recommend switching to Windows
[12:23] <OerHeks> cloneG, "real time info"  ?
[12:23] <OerHeks> !ot | hio stop that, it is not helpfull
[12:24] <hio> just start it with Wine then
[12:24] <hio> jeeze
[12:24] <cloneG> OerHeks yes techpowerup tells you the gpu usage and fan speed among other things
[12:24] <cloneG> OerHeks like temperature
[12:25] <hio> cloneG, please stop spamming the channel or you get a warning
[12:25] <marko-_-> i have a new notebook (HP probook 4540s) and i'm running ubuntu 13.04 currently. Everything works fine, i installed it yesterday and did a lot of updates and upgrades. Everything works good only my connection not. I have a 15/3 connection but it acts like 3/0.5. It's downloading really slow. What could i do? Change wireless drivers or what?
[12:25] <hio> marko-_-, have you tried rebooting?
[12:26] <marko-_-> hio, yes
[12:26] <hio> try switching the network mode
[12:27] <marko-_-> hio, how?
[12:27] <hio> in vmplayer settings, you can choose other modes
[12:35] <x-fak> i try to install ubuntu12 inside a vm and it's locked here: http://xfaktor.free.fr/install_ubuntu12_vmware.jpg i cant click on the icons, i dont know why i have this screen because at start i selected installation on HDD, not livecd testing
[12:35] <th0r> x-fak, did you do a checksum on the cd before starting the install?
[12:36] <x-fak> th0r , no, good idea
[12:36] <x-fak> th0r , it is iso mounted as is in vmware
[12:36] <hio> x-fak, that is the normal installation screen
[12:37] <th0r> hio, is there some reason you chose this channel to misbehave in this morning?
[12:37] <hio> th0r, I installed Ubuntu on vmplayer literally 10min ago and I had a screen like that with icons on the top right
[12:38] <th0r> x-fak, you can run the same checksum on the iso you would run on the cd
[12:38] <hio> it can be confusing because in other distributions, the installation doesnt look like a normal OS boot
[12:38] <x-fak> th0r , sure i just didnt see the md5 on the download page
[12:40] <hio> i never understood how md5 checking even works
[12:40] <hio> is there a program?
[12:40] <OerHeks> !hashes
[12:40] <hio> but it's just a string, how can I check if it's the correct string?
[12:41] <x-fak> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso md5=B4191C1D1D6FDF358C154F8BF86B97DD it's good
[12:41] <x-fak> so it's not that
[12:42] <hio> x-fak, have you considered Windows as an alternative?
[12:42] <OerHeks> stop trolling hio
[12:43] <hio> OerHeks, can you tell me how md5 works? Not trolling
[12:44] <x-fak> are u a damn noob?
[12:44] <hio> I tried downloading md5 program, but it doesn't let me check anything
[12:44] <th0r> x-fak, some script kiddie looking for attention
[12:45] <hio> I really don't know lol. I googled for at least an hour
[12:45] <OerHeks> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[12:45] <umc> can anyone please tell me what would be an appropriate chunk size for a raid1 partition of 3TB ?
[12:47] <umc> and the partition is ext4 if it matters
[12:47] <x-fak> well, i still have my old VM under ubuntu8 hardy heron, but i got some issues with it
[12:48] <doogy2004> umc, are you using mdadm?
[12:48] <umc> doogy2004: yes
[12:48] <doogy2004> i usually just use the default
[12:49] <umc> so then I should omit the --chunk param
[12:49] <umc> alright
[12:49] <th0r> x-fak, you are installing 13.04, right?
[12:49] <doogy2004> that's what I would do
[12:49] <doogy2004> unless you're having problems then I'd dive more into it
[12:49] <bitbyte> any of you guys good with ubuntu server package manager or should i say aptitude package manager
[12:49] <x-fak> th0r , i try to install version 12.10 i thought it's the last stable isn't it?
[12:50] <doogy2004> bitbyte, what do you need help with?
[12:50] <giraffe> This documentation is absolutely wrong for 12.04 http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/install.html .. sad times
[12:50] <th0r> x-fak, not sure about the latest stable, I thought that would be 13.04. But the latest LTS is 12.04.
[12:50] <bitbyte> doogy2004: the package manager keeps falling over at : E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-security_main_i18n_Translation-en
[12:51] <doogy2004> umc, I usually use something like this "sudo mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=3 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 /dev/sda1"
[12:51] <umc> if I created my partitions (with parted) and formatted my 2 HDDs before creating the raid partition, do I still need to format /dev/md5 (the new partition) after I added my partitions to it (/dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd1) ?
[12:51] <Guest28531> k
[12:51] <x-fak> th0r , yeah that's why i downloaded this ISO on the download page, it was not clear though, but anyway
[12:52] <doogy2004> umc: you can partition the drives before adding them to the raid, it's your choice.. but any formatting will be overwritten once the array is built
[12:52] <umc> so I need to format the raid partition as well
[12:52] <doogy2004> umc: add your disks to the array, then format the array
[12:53] <umc> currently cat /proc/mdstat tells me it's resyncing
[12:53] <th0r> x-fak, I would give the iso another shot. Delete the vm and start over from scratch. I always pad the available memory in the vm by a bit. I am curious to see if you get ubuntu installed as I have tried several other distros recently and have not been able to install any of them in vm
[12:53] <giraffe> I like llamas
[12:53] <doogy2004> umc: yep, you can format and use it while that is running, it will just be slow untill the syncing finishes
[12:53] <umc> and it's just at 1 %. can I format the partition before the resync finishes ?
[12:53] <th0r> x-fak, I am using VirtualBox for my vm's.
[12:54] <doogy2004> bitbyte:  hmm, i can't say that i've seen that before, what did  you run before getting that message?
[12:54] <doogy2004> umc: yes, it will just be slower than "normal" :)
[12:55] <x-fak> th0r i've tried 4 times to reinstall under vmware workstation
[12:55] <bitbyte> doogy2004: i was running the apt-get update && upgrade
[12:55] <umc> alright, so far so good, thanks doogy2004. it's the first time I'm adding a new HDD to an existing linux installation and the first time I'm making a new raid partition without doing it from the linux installer... I'm a bit nervous :)
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:56] <doogy2004> umc: it's all good, that was one of the first thinks that I learned how to do when learning Linux
[12:56] <x-fak> th0r , and also what do you mean by "I always pad the available memory in the vm by a bit", you extend the avalaible RAM for the VM? i've tried with 512MB and with 1GB, same
[12:56] <OerHeks> x-fak, maybe wmware tools is your solution, see >> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/03/how-to-quickly-install-vmware-tools-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[12:56] <doogy2004> bitbyte: give "apt-get clean" a try
[12:57] <th0r> x-fak, right, I define the vm with a bit more ram than the suggested amount. I only have a netbook so am limited in that regard, but give the vm as much as I can.
[12:57] <bitbyte> doogy2004: will do thnaks
[12:57] <doogy2004> bitbyte:  Check this out --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[12:58] <x-fak> OerHeks , let me check this
[12:58] <doogy2004> looks like they recommend deleting the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/* then run an update again
[12:59] <doogy2004> umc:  please keep in mind that RAID is not a backup :)  RAID is used for availability and performance, but should never be used as a "backup" solution
[12:59] <Luke23ae> hi
[13:00] <x-fak> otherwise, can i upgrade FROM the version 8 heron to the 12.10?
[13:00] <Luke23ae> how do I remove a repository if I installed it with add-apt-repository ?
[13:00] <umc> doogy2004: I added this new raid partition for storage, and I chose raid1 for the extra safety
[13:00] <Luke23ae> *from the command line
[13:00] <OerHeks> Luke23ae, ppa-purge
[13:00] <umc> doogy2004: can't really backup all the data from there since I don't have that much space. for now raid1 will have to do
[13:00] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[13:00] <Luke23ae> tried that coomand not found
[13:00] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[13:01] <Luke23ae> useing ubuntu 11.10
[13:01] <OerHeks> Luke23ae, you need to install it first, it is not standard installed AFAIK
[13:02] <OerHeks> Luke23ae, else you can delete the repo in softwarecentre/sources, but then you will have the files as they were.
[13:02] <doogy2004> umc: i understand, just wanted to make sure you're aware :)
[13:02] <umc> I'm aware, thanks :) for now it's the best I can do
[13:03] <Luke23ae> OerHeks: I think the repo is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/c_falco-mame-oneiric.list - can I just remove that folder and I'm fine?
[13:03] <Luke23ae> ppa-purge has unmet dependencies
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Luke23ae, 11.10 has reached end of life ...
[13:04] <Luke23ae> cfhowlett: I'm a beginner, how do I update, can I just use apt-get update?
[13:04] <umc> Luke23ae: I usually do 'sudo aptitude update' and then 'sudo aptitude safe-upgrade'
[13:04] <Riley> lek23ae yes run apt-get update to refresh the repos and then apt-get upgrade to update the packages
[13:05] <somsip> !aptitude | umc
[13:05] <Luke23ae> thank you guys
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Luke23ae, couple of decision points for you: for the latest, greatest shiniest distro, install 13.04.  For long term support ( 5 years) get 12.04
[13:05] <umc> alright, if the elders say so, then use apt-get instead of aptitude :)
[13:05] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> what is the command to make a terminal widows open to run a command, something -e command ?
[13:06] <Luke23ae> I want long term support, how can I tell him to upgrade to 12.04 and not to 13.04?
[13:06] <doogy2004> i always use aptitude, it seems to handle automatically installed packages better than apt
[13:06] <Riley> Roy_Newbie_13-04 ctl alt t
[13:06] <doogy2004> alway more than one way to do the same thing :)
[13:06] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> im making a .desktop
[13:06] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> to run encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private
[13:07] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> and the terminal wont stay open
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Roy_Newbie_13-04, alt+f2 , type terminal
[13:07] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> this isnt my computer, im making this for someone who is not smart and wont remember commands and dont like using terminal
[13:08] <mpathy> Hey there.. I made hard drive images with ddrescue, and want to make a backup of them but dont have enough space left then.. How can I make a tar.gz etc. on the fly while copying on another drive?
[13:09] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i need an icon so when he clicks it will run "encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private" in a terminal and ask him for the password .... not close the very milli second it opens
[13:09] <umc> doogy2004: my existing raid partitions are described like this in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf: 'ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=...' but this tutorial I'm reading gives me an example like 'ARRAY /dev/md/3 metadata=1.2 UUID=... name=master-db:3' which is obviously different. can I leave this partition as well in the same format I have them with the UUID I got from mdadm --query --detail /dev/md5 ?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Roy_Newbie_13-04, so the terminal is crashing
[13:10] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> !paste
[13:11] <doogy2004> umc: after the array is created run this to add it to mdadm.conf "sudo mdadm --detail --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf"
[13:11] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> what am i doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5677161/
[13:13] <Muelli> Farnell seems to ship for free to the UK.
[13:13] <doogy2004> umc: you can then use "blkid" to find the UUID of your formatted array
[13:13] <Muelli> -EWIN
[13:13] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> BluesKaj http://paste.ubuntu.com/5677161/
[13:14] <umc> doogy2004:  I got it from mdadm --query --detail /dev/md5. your command gave me a different format than what I had, indeed
[13:15] <Elvano> I have ubuntu installed on my netbook, but for some unknown reason I'm not able to connect to a certain wireless network (while to others I can)
[13:15] <Elvano> I can detect the network and have the correct wkey
[13:18] <umc> doogy2004: thank you very much for your help. partition is created, added, mounted, added to /etc/fstab, etc. It's not at 6.3 resync so I'll let it do it's thing
[13:18] <umc> this went much better than I expected :)
[13:19] <doogy2004> umc: np, better than expected is always good :)
[13:19] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> in a .desktop file what does StartupNotify=true do?
[13:19] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> is there a site where i can see all the tings like that to pun in a .desktop
[13:22] <ShippD> hello has anyone installed ubuntu touch on a tablet what works can you install apps etc
[13:23] <ubuntuaddicted> i wish
[13:23] <OerHeks> Roy_Newbie_13-04, here is a helppage  >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[13:23] <x-fak> OerHeks , i can start the shell with ctrl alt T
[13:23] <BluesKaj> !touch | ShippD
[13:23] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> thank you, my searches wasnt going fay
[13:24] <ShippD> ok thanks got that link
[13:25] <McQueen> hi, i have a problem about running swfobject on ubuntu 13.04, it can play youtube but cant play swfobject based streams. how can i fix it?
[13:25] <McQueen> on firefox
[13:26] <Capprentice> McQueen, check that video with Google Chrome :)
[13:27] <Capprentice> If that does not fail then downgrade or upgrade flash player.
[13:27] <McQueen> Capprentice, there is not a stable chrome version for ubuntu 13.04 64 ibt :)
[13:27] <Capprentice> Install the older one provided for 12.10, it will work
[13:27] <Roy_Newbie_13-04>  OerHeks should i make a .sh for "encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private" or can i put it in the .desktop Exec=encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private
[13:28] <ghking> hello,when i run"aticonfig --px-dgpu"I get the following output "aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: file too short"
[13:28] <Capprentice> Roy, there is a software Cryptkeeper, have you checked that ??
[13:28] <Capprentice> That might be useful.
[13:28] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i dont see how to run it, its installed
[13:29] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> cant remember the otherone someone told me, but it sucked, didnt work, it had a lock icon and needed a ppa to install
[13:29] <ghking> what does ”file too short“ means?
[13:30] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> dash show Cryptkeeper, i click it and nothing
[13:30] <Capprentice> Roy, On my system it works like a alternative to Folder Lock on Windows and it works great.
[13:30] <Capprentice> Im using ubuntu 12.04
[13:30] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> 13.04
[13:31] <McQueen> Capprentice, i install some packages last night. i dont remember what what did i do. i think the problem is comming from this packages. is there a way to return 2 days before configuration?
[13:31] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> what does its interface look like?
[13:31] <hoyang> There is the ubuntu official IRC channel?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> hoyang, yes
[13:32] <hoyang> How to scan all of i386 package on my system? i want remove --purge all of them.
[13:32] <Roy_Learning> is Cryptkeeper a gui
[13:32] <Capprentice> McQueen, If you have installed the packages from a ppa then "sudo ppa-purge ppa_name" will remove everything came from that ppa and install the default ones. The other way is if you used Synaptic or Software Center you can check the history and completely remove all those.
[13:33] <nickname22012> If I have a umask = 007 what will be the default permission for files?
[13:33] <McQueen> Capprentice, if on terminal by apt-get ?
[13:34] <Capprentice> McQueen, Then I cant help, I mostly use GUI.
[13:34] <Capprentice> :(
[13:34] <McQueen> Capprentice, thank you :)
[13:34] <Capprentice> Roy, no. more like a indicator.
[13:34] <Roy1> where will is show
[13:35] <Roy1> how do i interact with Cryptkeeper
[13:35] <dopie> anyone here using ubuntu with vmbox?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> hoyang, http://askubuntu.com/questions/113301/how-to-remove-all-i386-packages-from-ubuntu-64bit
[13:37] <rogue833> test
[13:37] <Capprentice> Roy, Wait Im uploading a screenshot.
[13:37] <marko-_-> a little help. I just installed lm-sensors on my 4540s ubuntu 13.04 and it shows temp6:       +127.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C) this is very high. Maybe that is the reason why the fan is going crazy
[13:37] <marko-_-> any help?
[13:38] <rogue833> i cannot access the interna the bahia
[13:38] <rogue833> and SCR
[13:38] <Roy1> dopie i use vmware workstation 9.0.2 on ubuntu 13.04, only issue is a gtk issue ONLY for one button and that is to register, so i backed up the registration from a different laptop with a different os (backtrack) and copy the file to ubuntu 13.04 and i can play them now
[13:38] <chm_cn> :)
[13:38] <rogue833> it only shows moving to interna de bahia but nothing happens
[13:38] <rogue833> anyone know?
[13:38] <Capprentice> Roy, Here it is : http://imgur.com/u7A76hJ
[13:40] <Capprentice> Roy1, you need to create a Encrypted folder first using Cryptkeeper, see this screenshot :http://imgur.com/u7A76hJ
[13:42] <Roy1>  Capprentice all ready got that going , i can use it all command line, but i want to find a gui to mannage it or make desktop icons to do the command line stuff
[13:42] <Roy1> does Cryptkeeper use encfs?
[13:42] <Capprentice> Yes Roy1.
[13:43] <Relaxation> How would I go about writing a program in C that shows all the active processes on the OS?
[13:43] <kvothetech> Relaxation: ps ax
[13:43] <expertarun> hello
[13:43] <kvothetech> Relaxation: you could call that
[13:43] <Relaxation> What's ps ax?
[13:44] <Capprentice> Roy1, are you using VMware on Ubuntu 13 ?
[13:44] <Roy1> yes  Capprentice, but i will need to give u my registration file
[13:44] <cfhowlett> expertarun, greetings
[13:44] <kvothetech> Relaxation: lists system processes...system("ps x"); i think
[13:45] <Capprentice> Roy1, no need. I use KVM and VirtualBox :)
[13:45] <expertarun> hey guys my ubuntu doesn't start login screen till many hours also and i can't start my user
[13:46] <kvothetech> expertarun: ?
[13:46] <expertarun> kvothetech: my ubuntu doesn't start login screen till many hours also and i can't start my user
[13:46] <kvothetech> Roy1: Capprentice kvm is pretty much built in and does everything vmware/vbox does
[13:47] <kvothetech> expertarun: yeah...dmes / syslog? was it running fsck
[13:47] <expertarun> kvothetech: my ubuntu doesn't start login screen till many hours also and i can't login (no login screen ) the thing is that i tried to setup the theme
[13:47] <Roy1>  kvothetech can it run Mac OS X 10.8.3 like i do, if not then i cant use kvm
[13:48] <Roy1> the latest mac os x
[13:48] <Roy1> and i had to apply a patch to make it avaible to work, and under the table patch if u get me
[13:49] <Capprentice> kvothetech, the bad thing is kvm does not come installed :( You have to install it and couple of other programs to ease the use of KVM. I hate CLI :'(
[13:49] <Roy1> but it purs like a kitten
[13:49] <Roy1> :-!
[13:50] <kvothetech> Capprentice: virt-manager (gui) and qemu...was just saying it's more or less built in to use vm's
[13:50] <Capprentice> expertarun, have you posted any question at askubuntu.com ?? If already have not, do it now. This might be answered there :)
[13:51] <kvothetech> Capprentice: i don't think he's tried anything based on his essentially informationless question other than a symptom
[13:53] <kennyngston> hey, what is the command that can tell me what video drivers do i have installed?
[13:54] <aryh> can anyone hear me?!?
[13:54] <aryh> helooooooooooooo
[13:54] <cfhowlett> aryh, hear?  no.  see?  yes
[13:55] <aryh> That's nice
[13:55] <Capprentice> :P
[13:55] <aryh> i'm just testing my messenger
[13:55] <Roy1> !paste
[13:55] <aryh> :D
[13:55] <betrayd> messenger?
[13:56] <aryh> i mean empathy on ubuntu!
[13:56] <Capprentice> noob :P
[13:56] <betrayd> rook
[13:56] <Roy1>  Capprentice http://imagebin.org/258071
[13:57] <aryh> :-|
[13:57] <betrayd> don't use plastic tonka toys =]
[13:57] <betrayd> nah just kidding aryh
[13:57] <aryh> :D
[13:58] <Roy1> why do i not have cryptkeeper in my menu bar
[13:58] <Roy1> http://imagebin.org/258071
[13:59] <Capprentice> Roy1, gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['Cryptkeeper']"
[13:59] <Roy1> ?
[13:59] <SR71X> good lads. i'm having a problem that after i upgrade it ubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10 it keep booting on black screen
[14:00] <Capprentice> Roy1,Run it in terminal, it will make Cryptkeepr visible on the panel
[14:00] <Capprentice> :)
[14:00] <Elvano> SR71X, I had a simular problem withmy netbook. The problem was that the backlighting of my screen wasn't working.
[14:00] <Roy1> Capprentice "No such schema 'com.canonical.Unity.Panel'"
[14:00] <Roy1> !not
[14:01] <Elvano> Upgrading to 13.04 solved my problem, SR71X
[14:01] <Capprentice> Oh, hmmm its because you are using 13.04 !! :(
[14:01] <Capprentice> I think.
[14:01] <kennyngston> how do i know if i'm using free or non-free drivers for my gpu?
[14:01] <SR71X> should i run an update from the terminal or on the startup
[14:01] <SR71X> should i run an update from the terminal or on the startup Elvano
[14:02] <Roy1> so can u help me make a .desktop file to run the command, this is my friends pc, convincing him to swich away from windows cause he having problems with windows
[14:02] <betrayd> kennyngston: maybe a browse through Xorg.0.log in var/log
[14:03] <Elvano> You can try to do so, SR71X
[14:04] <kennyngston> thanks betrayd
[14:04] <betrayd> kennyngston: installed prop. drivvers, did u
[14:04] <Roy1> he still has to learn dvd ripping copying converting burning, and make it easy to work with encrytpion, and he will get rid of the windows partition, got everything else going for him, he needs gui
[14:04] <Capprentice> Roy1, Read here : http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[14:04] <SR71X> thanks Elvano  i will try this now and see what will happen
[14:04] <kennyngston> okay, 2nd question, should i install steam from software center, or directly from steampowered.com
[14:05] <Roy1>  Capprentice:  so why did they take it out to begin with
[14:05] <Roy1> reading...
[14:05] <cfhowlett> kennyngston, software center
[14:05] <betrayd> i'd go sw center, some people get lost when they use steampowered.com (instructions, i mean)
[14:05] <Capprentice> Roy1, Its the developers decision.
[14:05] <kennyngston> well ive managed the get the .deb
[14:06] <kennyngston> sudo dpkg -i steam_latest.deb
[14:06] <kennyngston> right?
[14:06] <Capprentice> Yep.
[14:06] <kennyngston> wonderfull
[14:06] <kennyngston> thanks
[14:06] <joevandyk> when runit starts a service, this is in the PATH: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin  Where does that come from? It's not in /etc/environment, /etc/profile, /etc/profile.d/*, etc
[14:07] <Capprentice> Desurium is a Steam Alternative.
[14:07] <kennyngston> apt-get install -f, what does the -f do?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> kennyngston, most deb files will launch the installer by just clicking on it
[14:08] <kennyngston> does it install dependencies as well?
[14:08] <x-fak> OerHeks , it was a vmware video monitor config issue with ubuntu installer, i manually setup the guest screen to 1024x768 and now i see the install setup window and can click the icon at the top
[14:08] <OerHeks> x-fak, nice
[14:08] <Capprentice> kennyngston, force install.
[14:08] <Capprentice> or fix dependencies
[14:08] <dima__> anyone to help me?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> kennyngston, of course otherwise what good is the installer
[14:08] <dustinspringman> so, I have a question and I'm not sure how to ask google for an answer to it...
[14:08] <kennyngston> mkay, here goes nothing :)
[14:09] <cfhowlett> !details|dustinspringman,
[14:10] <kennyngston> ill just try to install it from sw center... :)
[14:10] <dustinspringman> i have two apps that open 3 windows on every boot as desired.... undesired is that they always open up in random places and I spend a couple clicks every boot moving them around to be visible the way I use them... how can I make them sticky? so that they always come back in the same exact position?
[14:10] <betrayd> smart move kennyngston
[14:10] <x-fak> OerHeks , also do you suggest ubuntu12 or 13? and are there any real difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[14:10] <Capprentice> kennyngston,  you can install "Gdebi Package Installer" which is a Gui to install Packages from right click context menu.
[14:10] <kennyngston> okay i don't understand something, if its free, why is the button says 'buy' ?
[14:10] <kennyngston> in sw center
[14:11] <Capprentice> kennyngston, because the app is published as propreitary
[14:11] <robmuh> asked this on #vim, but since Ubuntu uses /bin/dash so much, any chance of including dash.vim or something like?
[14:11] <kennyngston> i guess ill have to register thna :/
[14:11] <Capprentice> Yes, kennyngston . The resgister is free.
[14:12] <Roy1>  Capprentice i just did what the link said, when i did the upgrade it did not install anything, i restarted unity and i still get No such schema 'com.canonical.Unity.Panel'
[14:12] <Roy1> no cryptkeeper
[14:12] <ZynACK> Every time I try to run VMWare Player, after accepting the prompt to install new modules for it, ubuntu experiences an error. Trying to report the error also causes an error.
[14:13] <wolfje> Can somebody help me with editing unity?
[14:13] <ZynACK> Oh, VMWare Player was working fine for a while after I reinstalled it before it wanted me to install the new modules.
[14:13] <Capprentice> Roy1,gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[14:14] <x-fak> 512mb or RAM is enough for ubuntu 12 (minimal requirement say that), but what about recommanded ram?
[14:14] <Capprentice> x-fak, umm no, I think.
[14:14] <Roy1>  ZynACK im message
[14:14] <Capprentice> 4 GB will be better :)
[14:14] <ZynACK> Got it.
[14:15] <x-fak> Capprentice , 4GB? lol i have only 2GB for windows XP and it's more than enough
[14:15] <kennyngston> well this is strange, im trying to install from SW center, and it says thats 'software cannot be installed because there is a problem with teh software curretnly installed'
[14:15] <kennyngston> this is a fresh install of xubuntu
[14:15] <kennyngston> am i missing anything?
[14:15] <bogor> I have a ubuntu 12.04 machine and a windows 7 machine. I have enabled xdmcp in ubuntu and rebooted the ubuntu. I have installed Xcygwin in windows. Now when i use xlaunch and try a xdmcp session , it returns blank screen.
[14:16] <Capprentice> x-fak, depends what you wish to run. For me I run StuntRally, NetBeans, JIDEA, Xonotic etc.
[14:16] <Capprentice> They needs RAM :)
[14:16] <Capprentice> And couple of servers and VMS running too :P
[14:16] <x-fak> well basic things, mostly CLI stuff, network stuff
[14:17] <Capprentice> Then more than enougth :P
[14:18] <x-fak> Capprentice , how much disk space ubuntu takes with full updates and the most used packages?
[14:18] <lousygarua> Is the Flash player on Chromium different than the one on Firefox on 12.04?
[14:18] <x-fak> i talk about version stable 12
[14:18] <Capprentice> x-fak, depends what you have installed :P
[14:18] <x-fak> Capprentice , the ubuntu iso 700mb
[14:18] <bogor> lousygarua: yes if you mean google chome. Google chrome has their own flash.
[14:19] <Capprentice> Oh, it approximately take 5.7 GB ..
[14:19] <x-fak> i'm not sure if i should install ubuntu 12.10 or kubuntu 13.04 i've downloaded both
[14:19] <lousygarua> bogor, actually it's Chromium, I am playing a FB game that crashes on Firefox but seems ok on chromium-browser
[14:19] <Capprentice> Kubuntu 13.04.
[14:19] <x-fak> Capprentice , ok then i should allocate at least 10Gb i think
[14:20] <Capprentice> Are you installing in a VM ?
[14:20] <bogor> lousygarua: chromium uses flash in system
[14:20] <bogor> lousygarua: so same as the one firefox uses
[14:20] <Capprentice> x-fak ??
[14:21] <x-fak> Capprentice , i mean which partition size should i allocate for the system, 10GB is good i think
[14:21] <Capprentice> I have created only two partitions one is / which is 55 GB and one is Swap which is 7.5 GB.
[14:22] <Capprentice> I have everything under /. If you does not upgrade frequently then one partitons is okk.
[14:22] <lousygarua> bogor, so it might be something with the new FF 21 version that was packaged a few days ago
[14:23] <bogor> How do i troubleshoot xdmcp login issue ?
[14:23] <lousygarua> bogor, maybe look at the Xorg logs?
[14:24] <lousygarua> there might be some remote login related stuff there
[14:25] <bogor> lousygarua: I checked it. It has no mention of xdmcp
[14:26] <waltervos> Hi, can somebody help me out please? I have a bit of a weird problem while doing a distribution upgrade.
[14:27] <x-fak> Capprentice , why kubuntu13?
[14:27] <alejandro> Hi, I have ubuntu 12.10, and it used to update by itself, but now it's not updating. It says it cannot download repository, please check internet connection, but my internet connection is fine
[14:29] <FunkyELF> I've got a dual monitor set up.  Is there any way to control which monitor gets the video when I go full screen on a flash video?
[14:29] <bogor> Which port does x-server listen on by default ?
[14:30] <bekks> bogor: Hopefully none.
[14:30] <bogor> bekks: Then how does it accept remote connections ?
[14:30] <bekks> bogor: By enabling remote connections.
[14:31] <betrayd> FunkyELF: you have to designate which one is primary
[14:31] <waltervos> I'll type out my question, perhaps someone can jump: I was updating to 12.10 and in the mean time I was doing some work with Chromium, Netbeans, Banshee en Gnome Terminal open. All of a sudden the unity sidebar and top bar disappeared, ctrl+alt+left/right don't work anymore and alt+tab doesn't work anymore. So, I can't really switch windows anymore and I have no idea of the upgrade status.
[14:31] <kamlesh> are there drivers for rme fireface 400 available ?
[14:32] <bogor> bekks: I enabled xdmcp on my x server in ubuntu and i did a sudo netstat -ap | grep -i x and it doesnt show it is listening on a any port. Then does it mean it is not acepting remtoe connections ?
[14:32] <FunkyELF> betrayd: where do I do that?  I'm using NVidia drivers
[14:32] <betrayd> FunkyELF: in xorg.conf, serverlayout
[14:33] <Roy1> !paste
[14:33] <betrayd> FunkyELF: theres like Screen 0   and Screen 1, and then these are referenced in ServerLayout iirc
[14:33] <Koii> Hi, i recently installer ubuntu 13.04 and I want Gnome3, its installed. How do i change to gnome 3? I have tried google it, but i cant find any ubuntu icon to click on, in the login screen :/
[14:33] <FunkyELF> betrayd: I don't see any xorg.conf anywhere in /etc
[14:33] <betrayd> in X11
[14:34] <betrayd>  /etc/X11
[14:35] <FunkyELF> nope... not there.  This is a pretty fresh install.  Xfce Linux Mint 14
[14:35] <kamlesh> are there drivers available for rme fireface 400 audio card??
[14:35] <bekks> !mint | FunkyELF
[14:36] <KennettAZ> I need help compiling a driver for my NIC into the kernel.
[14:36] <betrayd> damm hardcore
[14:36] <Koii> anyone?
[14:36] <FourFire> Hello
[14:37] <FourFire> I'm going to try to make a USBstick installation for a dsitribution
[14:37] <FourFire> should I take this to the #Linux general channel?
[14:38] <waltervos> 'scuse me, anybody have time to look at my question for a minute (about a page up)?
[14:39] <waltervos> I could also ask a simpler question: Is it OK to drop to shell and restart while a distribution upgrade is (possibly, I can't tell) still in progress?
[14:39] <falcom_> hey guys i did sudo chmod +w filename, however i still have to sudo vi the file to edit. what am i missing?
[14:40] <betrayd> falcom_: maybe its in a place where its not normally edited by no one but root
[14:41] <falcom_> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  223 May 13 04:46 handler
[14:41] <falcom_> i guess then
[14:41] <llutz> falcom_: its on vfat/ntfs?
[14:41] <falcom_> llutz: im really not sure, it's an ec2 machine (cloud)
[14:42] <falcom_> but the file is from /var/www
[14:42] <falcom_> i believe i also made that directory /www (dont remember..)
[14:42] <giraffe> September has come it seems
[14:43] <KennettAZ> I could use some help with this.   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man4/sge.4freebsd.html
[14:43] <Freaky101> hello
[14:44] <giraffe> KennettAZ: oh for that? the dev for that is now living in a Buddhist monastery.
[14:44] <giraffe> soo
[14:44] <giraffe> try reading the incomplete docs for the next week and through trial and error you may get to where you need
[14:45] <Freaky101> im fairly new to ubuntu but can it run programs that would normally run on windows?
[14:45] <llutz> !behelpful | giraffe stop trolling
[14:45] <falcom_> llutz: well i chown the file
[14:45] <falcom_> not sure if that's best practice
[14:45] <giraffe> oh you caught me, good job there
[14:45] <llutz> falcom_: that works? then your chmod-command should have done too
[14:46] <gordonjcp> giraffe: if you don't like the docs, fix them
[14:46] <gordonjcp> giraffe: instead of just whining about it
[14:46] <waltervos> Again: Any thoughts on whether or not I can reboot Ubuntu during a dist upgrade?
[14:46] <gordonjcp> waltervos: no
[14:46] <gordonjcp> well, yes, you *can*
[14:46] <waltervos> No thoughts or no good? ;)
[14:47] <gordonjcp> but it's probably a fairly bad idea
[14:47] <falcom_> llutz: weird then :|
[14:47] <waltervos> That sucks, because I have no way of knowing if it's finished :(
[14:47] <betrayd> well he opened 3 windows while it was upgrading
[14:47] <bekks> waltervos: You could check the package manager logs.
[14:47] <betrayd> may have caused some  damage there
[14:47] <waltervos> Could I find out somehow from gnome terminal?
[14:48] <waltervos> My experience is that it's normally fine, betrayd.
[14:48] <waltervos> Package manager logs? That
[14:48] <waltervos> 's /var/log/dpkg or something?
[14:48] <Roy1> who has had problems getting vmware workstation 9.0.2 to be able to play VM's?, well if so here is a guide i made http://paste.ubuntu.com/5677408/
[14:48] <waltervos> To get to the terminal I have to shut down my IRC program so I better get all the info now :)
[14:49] <Roy1> save it for later incase someone else asks
[14:50] <waltervos> Is any user input needed during upgrade?  So, now I don't know wether or not the upgrade has finished and wether or not I can drop to shell to reboot
[14:54] <otak> waltervos: how about file>open new window
[14:55] <BluesKaj> use alt +f2 to launch the run command type terminal to launch it , waltervos
[14:55] <waltervos> alt+f2 is gone too
[14:55] <otak> ctrl-alt-t
[14:55] <waltervos> and file>new window would just open a new IRC window, I'm not running IRC from the terminal if that's what you were thinking, otak
[14:56] <waltervos> otak: I'm not in the terminal at the moment
[14:57] <BluesKaj> waltervos, can you drop to a tty , install irssi irc client , then use another tty to update&upgrade
[14:57] <yann2> hey folks! Was wondering, are there any laptops certified for 13.4?
[14:58] <waltervos> BluesKaj: The thing is that there's a distribution upgrade running in another window that I can't get to and I was told that it would be bad to drop to shell while that was running
[14:59] <betrayd>  so you did your work on the GUI desktop
[14:59] <waltervos> yes
[14:59] <waltervos> As well as the upgrade
[15:00] <TheBrandon> hello?
[15:00] <cmder> Hi. I want to install wheezy from a already running squeeze system with debootstap. Which version of debootstrap should I get? From squeeze repository (aptitude install debootstrap) or from wheezy repository (download and manual install)?
[15:01] <TheBrandon> How do I boot to the external monitor via the boot parameters?
[15:01] <_WolfeZ_> Can someone help me with unity?
[15:01] <betrayd> TheBrandon: try BIOS settings?
[15:01] <TheBrandon> I removed quite splash to show the debug but It really doesn't help
[15:01] <derWachert> cmder i prefer this variant: wget "http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/\
[15:01] <derWachert> `wget -q http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/ -O - | \
[15:01] <TheBrandon> Bios?
[15:01] <derWachert> grep -o -E "[^<>]*?_all.deb" | tail -n1`"
[15:01] <TheBrandon> What would the bios help
[15:01] <TheBrandon> Is there a boot parameter?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> waltervos, ok . I thought the upgrade stopped and din't finish
[15:02] <betrayd> TheBrandon: you can tell it to show on Both laptop/desktop + external display
[15:02] <sarge1221> I'm having an issue with clamAV. Does anyone know how to fix this error? ERROR: Can't open /var/log/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[15:02] <sarge1221> ERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/freshclam.log).
[15:02] <derWachert> squeeze gets version 1.0.26 but theres a 1.0.49
[15:02] <TheBrandon> When it boots its only going to the main laptop screen which is broken
[15:03] <TheBrandon> and it uses the external as an external monitor
[15:03] <TheBrandon> showing nothign
[15:03] <waltervos> BluesKaj: I could still see some dpkg related processes in top after the sh*t went down so I don't think it stopped
[15:03] <TheBrandon> *_*
[15:03] <betrayd> TheBrandon: through Fn keys
[15:03] <TheBrandon> My function key also doesnt work
[15:03] <TheBrandon> It doesnt respond
[15:03] <betrayd> TheBrandon: they work during bios time
[15:03] <TheBrandon> I'll attempt the bios
[15:03] <TheBrandon> lthanks
[15:03] <TheBrandon> :)
[15:03] <betrayd> k
[15:04] <cmder> If squeeze version outdated, debootstrap can be found from wheezy repositories. Right?  Why do you prefer different mirror?
[15:04] <waltervos> But anyway, it seems like this is a pretty rare problem to which there's no known solution. I'm going to try some things like checking logs and otherwise I'll just have to reboot and hope for the best
[15:04] <betrayd> TheBrandon: usually try to pause the bios time so you can use Fn keys longer
[15:05] <waltervos> Thanks for the help, adios!
[15:05] <cmder> derWachert: If squeeze version outdated, debootstrap can be found from wheezy repositories. Right?  Why do you prefer different mirror?
[15:05] <ghking> hello,when i run"aticonfig --px-dgpu"I get the following output "aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: file too short"
[15:06] <BluesKaj> waltervos, can you see any dpkg action in top , check before rebooting
[15:06] <llutz> cmder: derWachert better take it to #debian
[15:07] <cmder> llutz: I already asked in #debian. But no answer...
[15:07] <llutz> cmder: debian is offtopic here
[15:07] <tel> hi
[15:08] <tel> hi
[15:08] <ghking> is there anyone can help me?
[15:08] <tel> yes
[15:08] <tel> hi
[15:08] <ghking> when i run"aticonfig --px-dgpu"I get the following output "aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: file too short"
[15:08] <c0dex0> ghking, you have a missinig library
[15:08] <ghking> ???
[15:08] <_WolfeZ_> How can i run my own builded unity version ?
[15:09] <tel> yes
[15:09] <ghking> what library?
[15:09] <c0dex0> libGL
[15:09] <cmder> OK
[15:10] <c0dex0> try finding libgl in your repositories
[15:10] <_WolfeZ_> c0dex0: How can i run my own builded unity version ?
[15:10] <bekks> _WolfeZ_: You have to install it.
[15:10] <c0dex0> You want to build unity?
[15:10] <c0dex0> Do you have access to the source code?
[15:10] <_WolfeZ_> c0dex0: I intstalled unity from launchpad and edited the source but how do i start it?
[15:11] <c0dex0> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source << _WolfeZ_  this might be of your help
[15:11] <c0dex0> You installed or downloaded?
[15:12] <_WolfeZ_> c0dex0: I thinks so
[15:12] <tel> hi
[15:13] <c0dex0> _WolfeZ_, if you have installed what else you need? You need to compile the source?
[15:15] <c0dex0> who uses wine frequently
[15:16] <bekks> _WolfeZ_: Compile and install it.
[15:17] <django> Can I just ask?
[15:18] <bekks> c0dex0: Why?
[15:18] <bekks> django: yes.
[15:18] <c0dex0> bekks, some of my wine processes consume 100% cpu, just wanted to ask if thats the case with me.
[15:19] <django> I've connected my ubuntu desktop to another networked device - i've checked the 'remember these credentials forever' radio button but stupidly entered the wrong credentials and can't figure out how to get the dialogue back to change them..!
[15:20] <django> it's weird, it let's me see the share on the other device but returns 'Got error kFPParamErr' from server whenever I try to read/write
[15:20] <django> which, according to google, is wrong credentials.
[15:22] <MysticalBurrito> Could someone help me get to a Windows chat?
[15:22] <MysticalBurrito> Hello
[15:22] <betrayd> hey
[15:23] <MysticalBurrito> could you help me?
[15:23] <MysticalBurrito> I need to get to a Windows help chat
[15:23] <PrototypeX29A> this place is close, but a miss
[15:23] <bekks> MysticalBurrito: join ##windows
[15:23] <MysticalBurrito> Thanks
[15:23] <betrayd> tell em who sent you =]
[15:24] <urgodfather> chiluk: are you in here?
[15:24] <django> anyone know if the credentials I need to change are in a conf file I can just edit?
[15:25] <urgodfather> django: it depends on the config file
[15:26] <django> yeah i figured that, i'm just trying to find out where to edit a wrong pass/username i've entered so I can connect my desktop to my laptop
[15:28] <betrayd> django: maybe set up a new user ? would that option fit your situation?
[15:28] <betrayd> while you get rid of the first non-working one
[15:28] <django> betrayd - that idea just crossed my mind, however i'd need ubuntu to 'forget' the user I've wrongly entered, to make the dialogue pop up again?
[15:28] <django> yeah how can I get rid of the non-working one?
[15:29] <betrayd> isn't it a remote login
[15:29] <KennettAZ> How do I add: device miibus, device sge to my kernel configuration file?
[15:29] <betrayd> i'd egt rid of it AFTER setting up a new one
[15:30] <django> yeah, i just dunno where to manage remote logins
[15:30] <tel> please i need help?
[15:30] <bekks> KennettAZ: You cant. Whats the actual problem you are facing?
[15:30] <tel> i haven 'nt sound on my pc
[15:31] <KennettAZ> My network card doesn't work right and I found this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man4/sge.4freebsd.html
[15:31] <RoySegall> Someone installed 13.04 and can make commits through the ui of the git-cola
[15:32] <bekks> KennettAZ: sudo modprobe sge
[15:32] <echoe> the auto-upgrade is throwing an error from 12.10 to 13.04, is it worth redownloading and reinstalling? ... or should i just get 12.04? this is for a work computer
[15:32] <bekks> echoe: which error?
[15:32] <echoe> unspecified!
[15:32] <bekks> echoe: errors are to be solved - reinstalls are for windows.
[15:33] <KennettAZ> bekks: FATAL: Module sge not found.
[15:33] <echoe> this ... is not always the case. lol.
[15:33] <bekks> !details | echoe
[15:33] <bekks> KennettAZ: Then you would have to recompile your own kernel.
[15:34] <echoe> am attempting to replicate now
[15:34] <KennettAZ> bekks: I'm trying to do that but never have so I'm lost
[15:35] <bekks> KennettAZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[15:36] <x-fak> Thor , remember me?
[15:38] <KennettAZ> Bekks: I'm running 13.04 server on the system..
[15:38] <camilo_> hola
[15:38] <bekks> KennettAZ: And?
[15:38] <bekks> KennettAZ: The article still applies.
[15:39] <KennettAZ> bekks: Wasn't sure I just letting you know.
[15:40] <echoe> sigh, the whole point of installing ubuntu was so I didn't have to go through troubleshooting with my own system so i could troubleshoot other systems and only deal with the quirks of one machine. oh well [/waits for updates, maybe it will magically work after this]
[15:41] <Hoxolotl> vanavond nog vliegende dozen kijken @ tkkrlab?
[15:41] <betrayd> there is also a 'try it out' option
[15:44] <otak> echoe: imho if you want a stable system stick with LTS
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Hoxolotl, this is an English only ubuntu support channel
[15:46] <wingsuit> arch?
[15:47]  * echoe nods. will download lts now too, just in case i guess. "why not, it's just data"
[15:48]  * Meadow nods. Me likes data
[15:49] <Hoxolotl> BluesKaj, sorry wrong channel ^_^;
[15:50] <neekz0r> echoe: i think no matter what, you'll always have to troubleshoot a system :P
[15:50] <BluesKaj> you can ask in English Hoxolotl
[15:50] <yashh> how do i install 13.04 without deleting files?
[15:50] <echoe> okay, the system just wasn't upgraded yet. ... question solved
[15:51] <Continuum> Continuum
[15:51] <Continuum> :list
[15:51] <echoe> for reference, I have fedora, and it randomly freezes two or three times a day and sometimes fails to wake up from sleep
[15:51]  * echoe would like those things to not happen because when running programs in client machines if I don't screen them this can cause ... problems.
[15:52] <Meadow> echoe: sounds exactly like my problem! Its a hardware problem for me, the graphics card is fried out from the previous owner who played a lot of games
[15:52] <echoe> that might be it for me too, it isn't my own hardware though so idk
[15:53] <Meadow> echoe: the computer will not freeze when it is not using the graphics driver. Right now I am in a regular console with no graphic driver because comptuer is freezing up when I load it, everything is purple and white alternating randomly >_<
[15:53] <betrayd> soit CAN happen
[15:54] <echoe> ew
[15:55] <echoe> i'd hope there would be a way to turn off the external graphics and default to the onboard in that case?
[15:55] <Meadow> echoe: sadly for me its a laptop... a desktop you can change that in the bios settings... but I have no option with a laptop, and a new graphics for it costs $120 minimum :(
[15:56] <echoe> laptops have bios settings too. unless it's the onboard [non-expansion] graphics that are broken ...
[15:57] <Meadow> echoe: oh yes it has bios settings, but no "onboard" seperate graphics card like desktops do...
[15:57] <echoe> depends on the laptop. i guess not then
[15:57] <echoe> i.e. mine has optimus. so
[15:57] <Meadow> but that sounds like an item of interest to investigate in google, thanks for the pointer!! :)
[15:58] <echoe> heh. possibly ...
[15:58] <Meadow> But I think unscheduled freezing can be caused by any number of hardware failures... next time its running maybe the "lastlog" dmesg has some info for you?
[16:01] <echoe> eh, we'll see I guess. as said before I am reinstalling so. :P
[16:02] <Meadow> echoe: I don't feel that the OS is your problem, luckily ubuntu is quite easy to re-install, and if it is your problem, then it was an easy and inexpensive solution
[16:04]  * Meadow reboots to look at bios options
[16:04] <pricox> !list
[16:05] <urgodfather> hello room, having trouble getting this new intel 6235 card to work in ubuntu 13.04
[16:06] <x-fak> do you always advice to upgrade to version 13?
[16:06] <hacktus0> where is path for history of 'google chrome' ??
[16:06] <bekks> x-fak: No.
[16:06] <x-fak> it is asking me if i want to upgrade at my first start with 12
[16:07] <bekks> x-fak: Which ubuntu version do you have?
[16:07] <x-fak> ubuntu 12.10
[16:08] <bekks> x-fak: since both version are supported, its basically your choice then.
[16:08] <x-fak> i'll stay with 12.0 for the moment i think
[16:09] <betrayd> is it bugging you constantly though, to upgrade
[16:10] <hacktus0> where is path for history of 'google chrome' ??
[16:11] <auronandace> hacktus0: google chrome is a ppa, ppas are not supported here
[16:15] <fataldigitz> yo
[16:15] <fataldigitz> !list
[16:16] <fataldigitz> u is big asss u fk
[16:17] <urgodfather> can anyone offer support?
[16:17] <Meaodw> echoe: yeah, the bios is inaccessable when the graphics is messed up :(
[16:17] <FunkyELF> just install ubuntu 13.... how do I monitor CPU temp?
[16:18] <nbubuntu> any open office expert here ?
[16:18] <urgodfather> Meaodw: can you help troubleshoot wifi connectivity?
[16:18] <urgodfather> nbubuntu: what is your question?
[16:19] <Meaodw> urgodfather: I suppose, what seems you be your trouble, dearest?
[16:19] <FunkyELF_> ... and here I am on the Ubuntu machine
[16:19] <FunkyELF_> Trying to find out how to monitor CPU temp.... I search for guides but they seem old
[16:19] <Meaodw> FunkyELF_: look up lm_sensors installation guide
[16:19] <th0r> FunkyELF, I believe you have to install lm_sensors. Do a google on that...I just got temp working on my netbook
[16:19] <Meaodw> FunkyELF_: there are some great GTK front ends that you can watch in the GUI
[16:20] <urgodfather> Meaodw: clean install 13.04, kernel 3.9.0rc8, intel 625 wireless (new card) cannot connect to any network. bios up to date, etc
[16:20] <FunkyELF_> Meaodw, and then what program monitors them?  I don't think LM Sensors is a GUI or anything
[16:20] <Meaodw> FunkyELF_: you have to search the package manager for lm_sensors and the guis should come up, I do not use ubuntu sorry :)
[16:20] <nbubuntu> urgodfather : how to copy a row of number file and covert it to a column on spreadsheet ?
[16:21] <Meaodw> urgodfather: we have to troubleshoot from the start here, lets look at ifconfig to see if your wireless card comes up
[16:21] <th0r> FunkyELF, I use gkrellm, but conky and others can use it as well. there is even a panel plugin for xfce
[16:21] <FunkyELF_> th0r, I installed an applet that came up when I searched the Ubuntu software center for lm_sensors
[16:21] <Meaodw> urgodfather: it should be either eth1 or wlan0, if it does not show up then the driver is not being loaded for some reason
[16:22] <betrayd> nbubuntu: hightlight the row number then copy, paste to a col header
[16:22] <FunkyELF_> how do  get an applet to show up?... or how do I get anything to show up in the panel?... I can't right click on the panel
[16:22] <th0r> FunkyELF, you need to do something to detect the sensors...it is a one off command but I don't recall it right now
[16:22] <urgodfather> Meaodw: it does
[16:22] <Meaodw> FunkyELF_: you have to add it to the gui autostart, if it is xfce there is the startup option in the settings menu
[16:23] <FunkyELF_> Meaodw, I'm on Ubuntu 13 so I have Unity
[16:23] <Meaodw> urgodfather: great! Now do you have a wireless manager installed? or are you using wpa_supplicant to manage networks?
[16:23] <urgodfather> nbubuntu: http://www.ehow.com/info_8167559_rows-columns-openoffice.html
[16:23] <FunkyELF_> no clue how t customize the panel when I cant right click on it
[16:23] <ndevuk_> I have alot of java files in my directory exnding with the extension class
[16:23] <Meaodw> urgodfather: then what I would like to see is the last 50 or so lines of you /var/log/messages after 30 seconds of trying to log into your wireless network, this will show me what the problem is
[16:24] <nbubuntu> urgodfather : it's not working if you are coping from a gedit
[16:24] <ndevuk_> is rm *.class safe to only delete class files and not failes ending with the extension .java
[16:24] <urgodfather> Meaodw: whichever is installed on clean installation. im assuming wireless manager.
[16:25] <urgodfather> Meaodw: let me login from the laptop
[16:25] <urgodfather> Meaodw: brb
[16:25] <nbubuntu> urgodfather : a plain row of number separated into dates , I wanted it to paste into col
[16:25] <Meaodw> urgodfather: okay, I perfer WICD and when I have used ubuntu, replaced the default because I don't like it... however we can still find out if it is the managers fault, or some setting somewhere...
[16:25] <ohnonotagain> ndevuk That will remove files only ending in .class, yes
[16:25] <ndevuk_> thanks, I didn't want to have to backup
[16:26] <weldan_> hello
[16:26] <betrayd> ooh living on the edge now are ya ndevuk_
[16:26] <ohnonotagain> Well, ndevuk that's *never* a good idea, but I hear ya :P
[16:26] <PrototypeX29A> hey, since my distupgrade to 12.10 i cannot start my terminal anymore because the ACcessoires menu in gnome is not  scrollable anymore
[16:26] <weldan_> how do i mount this? anyone? -> [ 5713.637043] input: GENERAL - UVC  as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.1/2-1.1:1.0/input/input15
[16:26] <ndevuk_> I have alot of class files and I don't want to commit them to my svn dir
[16:26] <PrototypeX29A> also i have an unreasonable long lag when typing something
[16:26] <ohnonotagain> weldan_: What type of input device is that?
[16:26] <guest1234> Meaodw: this is urgodfather
[16:27] <Meaodw> guest1234: okay
[16:27] <weldan_> i am thinking of that too
[16:27] <weldan_> it is usb camera
[16:27] <guest1234> Meaodw: let me pastbin that log
[16:27] <PrototypeX29A> may be the replacement console is just crap
[16:27] <Meaodw> guest1234: when you connect to the wifi it will go through the handshaking process, which can take up to 30 seconds, then the log will give the information :)
[16:27] <PrototypeX29A> excuse me
[16:28] <weldan_> that was the result of dmesg , showing uvcvideo rejecting i/o from usb and not really sure what was that line for
[16:28] <guest1234> Meaodw: it never handshakes
[16:29] <Meaodw> guest1234: could then be a router problem or even a hardware problem on your computer, log will say for sure
[16:29] <urgodfather> nbubuntu: i dont know if that will work
[16:29] <weldan_> ohnonotagain: got any idea how do i get around this?
[16:29] <ohnonotagain> I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I don't think you are acutally trying to mount it, are you?
[16:29] <weldan_> yes i am
[16:29] <weldan_> he he
[16:29] <guest1234> Meaodw: router ok, card brand new, functions fine in windows
[16:29] <ohnonotagain> So, it has internal storage? wel
[16:30] <weldan_> i thought. because the manual says so
[16:30] <betrayd> weldan_: by any chance you tried nautilus to explore it
[16:30] <weldan_> lol what
[16:30] <ohnonotagain> Gotcha.  Just trying to get an idea of what's going on
[16:30] <weldan_> it did not mounted. where can i find it in nautilus betrayd
[16:30] <ohnonotagain> nautilus, your file manager, has a lot of plug-and-play functionality.  It'd be on the left hand side in nautilus weldan_
[16:30] <Meaodw> guest1234: so I hear that you have windows on the computer and it functions, great, this tells me that its a problem with your configuration, the log will say for sure.
[16:31] <weldan_> yes. its true
[16:31] <Meaodw> guest1234: try this `cat /var/log/messages | tail -n 50 > meadowlog` and then put it on a flash drive
[16:31] <guest1234> Meaodw: there isnt a messages in the log folder
[16:32] <weldan_> mount and fdisk -l did not show anything convincing though
[16:32] <weldan_> thanks for the advice
[16:32] <Meaodw> guest1234: eeeehhhh... okay ubuntu is different than gentoo, really I came on this channel so that my computer would have some graphics to display, while I tinker with my graphics card... :P
[16:32] <Meaodw> guest1234: if there is nothing in that log, then perhaps the dmesg will have some info
[16:33] <th0r> Meaodw, in ubuntu it is /var/log/syslog
[16:33] <Meaodw> guest1234: you have to find where the computer is logging the wireless connection... it will show the authetication process.
[16:33] <guest1234> Meaodw: there's 4 dmesg files
[16:33] <Meaodw> guest1234: read th0r comment
[16:33] <betrayd> weldan_: sometimes when I can view in nautilus, it mounts successfully for other programs to access the files
[16:33] <weldan_> anyone interested to see the result in dmesg ?
[16:33] <weldan_> me too. but when i know how it worked in out i thow away that feeling
[16:34] <weldan_> hew hew
[16:34] <weldan_> i guess the keyword is ucvvideo if anyone interested
[16:34] <betrayd> see how it defined the device in nautilus
[16:34] <betrayd> then use those terms
[16:35] <weldan_> okay okay i give a try on nautilus. brb
[16:35] <betrayd> for future referemce
[16:35] <weldan_> unfortunately cannot
[16:36] <betrayd> cannautilus view contents
[16:36] <weldan_> because /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.1/2-1.1:1.0/input/input15 is definitely not a file or whatever.
[16:36] <betrayd> not yet
[16:36] <weldan_> there is a /dev in / . not /devices
[16:36] <weldan_> okay. will try to reattach the usb . brb
[16:37] <Meaodw> guest1234: you get that log from /var/log/syslog? When you do type `Meadow:` before you post it so that it highlights me, I will be around in a minute have to take care of something for a second
[16:37] <raven_> hey guys, im an idiot,how do i fix it
[16:37] <raven_> lol
[16:37] <betrayd> dont worry you're in the asylun
[16:37] <raven_> nah, i installed the amd version of ubuntu on an intel machine... should i  download the iinter version?
[16:38] <weldan_> betrayd: i think i found something. --> http://i.imgur.com/PmkN16m.png
[16:38] <guest1234> Meaodw: http://pastebin.com/pNth9jVR
[16:39] <BluesKaj> !amd | raven_
[16:39] <BluesKaj> !info amd | raven_
[16:39] <raven_> ?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> hmmm
[16:40] <raven_> so there is only an amd one?
[16:40] <raven_> im confused
[16:40] <betrayd> weldan_: i was wondering if ou could view its contents, from nautilus alone without any of your interference
[16:41] <tanya_tanya> hello, quick question. I have an overclock 2600k. Should I run on normal clock during install of ubuntu? Or can I install in overclock settings? How about in booting to Ubuntu, do I run overclock or normal? THank you very much
[16:41] <weldan_> of course not
[16:42] <betrayd> if nautilus can't then you can't
[16:42] <betrayd> it does a lot of the heavy lifting
[16:42] <betrayd> so you wont have to
[16:43] <raven_> hey i insstalled open java jde 7
[16:43] <betrayd> If that's as far as nautilus can do, it'll be a struggle to do it some other way
[16:43] <raven_> and i want to java programs open automaticly with java
[16:43] <Meaodw> guest1234: yeah thats really weird, that log give no information as to why it is not working... I don't even have a guess at this point, my former assumptions as to the problem are now possibly wrong based on this log...
[16:43] <raven_> but when i click open with other it doesnt list the open java
[16:44] <weldan_> betrayd: here is dmesg log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5677743/
[16:44] <Meaodw> guest1234: you might try #networking or #wireless with that log to find the problem, or maybe someone else here can help you, but really I am not well enough versed in ubuntu to help in this. I would actually try installing WICD and using that, it MIGHT fix your problem, which appears to be software
[16:45] <weldan_> since it is a camera. tried to load uvcvideo module
[16:45] <betrayd> weldan_: on this session it is hosed
[16:45] <betrayd> have you any other usb ports
[16:45] <weldan_> okay what you mean by hosed
[16:46] <betrayd> it failed to recognize this attempt
[16:46] <bitbyte> is any one able to help me out I'm running ubuntu server and asked in there but its pretty quiet, I'm trying to add noip2 to cron to force updates to the service because it won't automatically do it any one else got a similar setup
[16:47] <shivam> hi there
[16:47] <BluesKaj> raven_, is your machine 64 bit ?
[16:47] <weldan_> yes that was what i thought too
[16:47] <betrayd> weldan_: loading of uvc/we is pointless, you need one where sd+ was recognized
[16:47] <raven_> yes
[16:47] <Meaodw> guest1234: I have to run now, I hope you get it fixed, wireless is always stressful part of install! :( I have been there many times
[16:47] <bitbyte> yes its 64bit
[16:47] <bitbyte> oh sorry was aimed at some one else hehe
[16:47] <weldan_> no success yet
[16:48] <weldan_> i can view the video if i attach the usb on windows
[16:48] <betrayd> yeah, unless you got more USB ports on a different side of the box (e.g. lcd monitor, back of box)
[16:48] <BluesKaj> raven_, did you choose this image : 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image
[16:48] <raven_> yes
[16:49] <weldan_> for the storage i still did not get anything from both windows and linux
[16:49] <weldan_> nvm. will try someday
[16:49] <betrayd> or, weldan_ you can boot with the cam attached already to ensure a good connection
[16:49] <BluesKaj> raven_, then you're ok , it also runs on intel cpus
[16:50] <betrayd> weldan_: instad of plug/unplug
[16:50] <weldan_> betrayd: sounds promising. will give it a try. thanks
[16:50] <weldan_> brb
[16:50] <betrayd> yw, good luck weldan_
[16:50] <shojo> @wik positive discrimination
[16:51] <shojo> oops wrong chan srry
[16:51] <raven_> okay :)
[16:51] <betrayd> heh we'll let it slide
[16:51] <raven_> and when can i get ubuntu for my phone?
[16:51] <raven_> lol
[16:52] <eklz> Hi, I'm new on linux and I would like to know if ad-on for Google Chrome works on chromium ?
[16:52] <betrayd> when it rings. pick up immediately
[16:52] <OerHeks> !phone > raven_
[16:52] <BluesKaj> raven_, if you're concerned , you can always use the i386 image , which runs on 32 and 64 bit pcs
[16:52] <mesquka> chromium and chrome are fully compatible with each other
[16:52] <mesquka> they are literally clones
[16:52] <eklz> thanks ;)
[16:53] <savio> Hello guys
[16:53] <betrayd> hey there
[16:53] <eklz> hi
[16:56] <vooze> If I replaced some files in /usr/share/unity/6 is there some package I can reinstall to revert it back?
[16:58] <raven_> how do i install a .tar.gz file
[16:59] <doogy2004> raven_: what software are you attempting to install?
[16:59] <raven_> flash
[16:59] <RocknRolla> raven_:  unpack them first
[16:59] <raven_> and java
[16:59] <doogy2004> there are packages in the repos for flash and java
[17:00] <raven_> its just a usr folder
[17:00] <doogy2004> i would recommend doing it that way
[17:00] <raven_> the one for java doesnt work
[17:01] <doogy2004> which one did you install?
[17:01] <nbubuntu> Anyone using Intel 3570k here will to help me out whether i should choose this processor for Visualization (VirtualBox) ?
[17:01] <raven_> i installed OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime it works but i cant set it so .jar files automaticly launch with it, it doesnt show in the prgram list
[17:01] <BluesKaj> !restricted-extras
[17:02] <doogy2004> for flash you could either try the adobe-flashplugin or flashplugin-installer
[17:02] <BluesKaj> !restricted
[17:02] <BluesKaj> raven, read above
[17:02] <doogy2004> are you attempting to run the .jar from the command line or the GUI?
[17:03] <raven_> gui
[17:04] <raven_> i cant use the command line
[17:05] <BluesKaj> raven_, install ubuntu-restricted-extras from the software center
[17:05] <raven_> ok
[17:05] <doogy2004> raven_: check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/192914/how-run-a-jar-file-with-a-double-click
[17:06] <BluesKaj> raven_, it will take care of flash and java for you
[17:06] <raven_> thank you
[17:07] <raven_> i installed adobe flash player
[17:07] <raven_> and its stuck applying changes
[17:08] <doogy2004> it will take some time
[17:10] <sarge1221> Whats the terminal command to tell something to restart? I need the clamav daemon to restart itself. Please help. :(
[17:11] <doogy2004> sarge1221: /etc/init.d/SERVICE_NAME restart
[17:11] <doogy2004> or service SERVICE_NAME restart
[17:12] <RocknRolla> sarge1221: try service clamav restart
[17:12] <tony38> ciao
[17:13] <tony38> !list
[17:13] <th0r> sarge1221, I think you will need 'sudo service.....'
[17:14] <sarge1221> I was following this. > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ClamAV
[17:17] <sarge1221> ok seriously i still get this error. ><' WARNING: Clamd was NOT notified: Can't connect to clamd through /var/lib/clamav/clamd.socket Why won't this thing work T_T
[17:19] <sam113101> arch uses systemd now, I believe
[17:21] <psusi> has anyone else noticed that 13.04 is totally unusable under qemu-kvm, and is there a workaround?
[17:22] <sarge1221> sam113101, I use ubuntu 12.04 i just followed the guide hoping it might explain how to fix that directory error for clamd not being notified.
[17:24] <_DomY-Dom> mount: can't find /mnt/starcraftoriginal/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:24] <_DomY-Dom> Trying to mount starcraft iso in /mnt/starcraft original and I mount -o blah.iso /mnt/starcraftoriginal and got this error: mount: can't find /mnt/starcraftoriginal/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:27] <doogy2004> _DomY-Dom: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mount-iso-image/
[17:27] <bascherz> Interesting issue came up today. Added my admin account to the vboxsf group and can no longer use sudo from the account. I had not set a root password beforehand, so I can no longer administer my system. Anyone got a way out of this?
[17:27] <doogy2004> sudo mount -o loop /tmp/file.iso /mnt/iso
[17:28] <AbbasX8> guys, how do i increase the size of  dev/sda1 without breaking the ubuntu installation on it? http://i.imgur.com/7LGRuoX.jpg
[17:28] <AbbasX8> right now, it wont let me increase size because the swap disc is right next to it, i can only incrase the size of swap disc
[17:29] <zembela> can anybody read my message?
[17:29] <bascherz> @zembela... yes
[17:29] <surfdaemon> zembela: transmission received
[17:30] <th0r> AbbasX8, boot into a live cd, mount the hard drive, delete the swap, extend sda1, redefine swap. But I won't guarantee any of this will work
[17:30] <Continuum> python-fr
[17:30] <zembela> thank you
[17:32] <zembela> i am using windows 7 64 bit manhine. i installed on virtual box (latest stable version) ubuntu 12.04.02 32 bit. but after proper installation now ubuntu does not starts and gives me this error: The system is running in low-graphics modeYour screen, graphics cards, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself. What should ı do now? ı dont want to play with system defaults, because i will get a back
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> AbbasX8, You have to realize the sda2 the extended is the container for the sda5 it is a partition itself. So you have to extend the sda2 to the right and move the sda5 to the right, then shrink the sda2 from the left and then expand the sda1. Dn't do all this in one job.
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> don't
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> AbbasX8, As of now the sda2 and sda5 are just the swap you could remove and bulild them agin and just resize the sda1.
[17:40] <zembela> i am using windows 7 64 bit manhine. i installed on virtual box (latest stable version) ubuntu 12.04.02 32 bit. but after proper installation now ubuntu does not starts and gives me this error: The system is running in low-graphics modeYour screen, graphics cards, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself. What should ı do now? ı dont want to play with system defaults, because i will get a back
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> zembela: did you get fully updated?
[17:41] <bascherz> Interesting issue came up today. Added my admin account to the vboxsf group and can no longer use sudo from the account. I had not set a root password beforehand, so I can no longer administer my system. Anyone got a way out of this?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> bascherz: if you run: groups ,what is output?
[17:42] <zembela> ActionParsnip: which updates?
[17:42] <zembela> ActionParsnip: how can i get hte updates. i can not open the system
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> zembela: ubuntu system updates
[17:42] <bascherz> ActionParsnip: bruce vboxsf
[17:42] <zembela> system = ubuntu
[17:43] <zembela> ubutnu 12.03.3 will fix this issue?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> bascherz: then thats why. you didnt add yourself to the group correctly and have lost membership to the other groups including sudo
[17:44] <bascherz> ActionParsnip: how to fix? recovery mode?
[17:44] <bascherz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/169631/lost-my-root-access-and-unable-to-install-any-software-or-any-other-priviliged-o
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> zembela: if you hit CTRL+ALT+T do you get a terminal?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> bascherz: yes, you can then add yourself to the sudo account, then you can add yourself to the other user groups
[17:45] <zembela> ActionParsnip: i open not with recovery mode. i am on command line as root.
[17:45] <zembela> ActionParsnip: what should i write for update of ubuntu?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> zembela: then update in root recovery mode. Thats fine too
[17:46] <bascherz> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I'll give it a try.
[17:46] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: can you please help me figure out why my intel 6235 isnt working?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> zembela: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:46] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: im posting a syslog on pastebin
[17:47] <AbbasX8> ok thank you wilee-nilee , that seems to work
[17:47] <AbbasX8> hope ubuntu boots now
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> AbbasX8, cool.
[17:47] <zembela> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get update gives me this error: unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather_: what is the Intel 6235?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> zembela: is the filesystem full?
[17:48] <RocknRolla> zembela: did your filesystem is read only
[17:48] <RocknRolla> zembela: try running fsck
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> zembela: mount -o rw,remount /
[17:48] <OerHeks> urgodfather, it did work yesterday did it not?
[17:48] <zembela>  ActionParsnip: ofcore not. i open 13+ gb for vm.
[17:48] <zembela> RocknRolla:  no.
[17:48] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: its a wifi card. ubuntu certified hardware. cannot get to connect. clean install 13.04. pastebin.... http://pastebin.com/mwNUCvh5
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather_: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network; sudo rfkill list; uname -a; lsb_release -a
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> zembela: does my command help?
[17:51] <zembela> ActionParsnip: first i write update ok. but after that i write upgrade. now it gives me this error: unable to fecth some archives, maybe run apt-get update
[17:51] <zembela> ActionParsnip: or tyr with -fix-missing
[17:51] <zembela> ActionParsnip: i try it with missing but nothing changed :(
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> zembela: ok, run: sudo apt-get -f install
[17:52] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/iFnptTbp
[17:52] <_name> my dad is having some problems with his audio, i think its a hardware problem. theres 2 places in his computer to plug in headphones but they dont seem to work well, sometimes one of them works and some time the other works, does anyone know what this could be?
[17:53] <zembela> ActionParsnip: ok i run  sudo apt-get -f install. now?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather_: try disabling n speed on the iwlwifi module. May help
[17:53] <mamece2> hello, i have a problem when i try to run live ubuntu. It appears "No human readable MCE decoding support on this CPU type" how can i boot with the command nomce?
[17:53] <betrayd>  it might have 2 audio cards _name
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> zembela: yes does it help
[17:53] <_name> betrayd: i did an lsof and only saw 1 device
[17:54] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: it looks like the wrong driver is being loaded ( driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.8.0-19-generic firmware=<IP_ADDRESS> latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abg) no n support
[17:54] <_name> betrayd: sorry lshw
[17:54] <zembela> it just write : "it does nothing. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed, 197 not upgraded."
[17:54] <zembela> ActionParsnip: it just write : "it does nothing. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 removed, 197 not upgraded."
[17:55] <betrayd> _name try alsamixer in a terminal, up top is lsted how to choose device. if there is more than 1 it will switch pages
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather_: which modulecdo you expect it to use?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> zembela: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:56] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: i sudo rmmod iwldvm (b/c iwlwifi was being used by it) how to restart it?
[17:56] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: I am trying to recover a PC that frozes when it runs windows. I put the live cd in and I cant get into ubuntu. The MCE error shows
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> sorry: name_
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: crossed wires, sorry
[17:57] <zembela>  ActionParsnip: :( again this error: unable to fecth some archives, maybe run apt-get update
[17:57] <mamece2> ActionParsnip:  can you helpo me with the MCE problem? I have read that i need to boot with the nomce command, How can I run from a live CD with that parameter?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: you can press E to (e)dit the kernel options and add what you desire
[17:58] <cuddylier> If i set the user of a directory to be root, would other users who are owners of subdirectories still be able to access them?
[17:58] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: nevermind... i got it started back up
[17:58] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: got a new pastebin coming your way
[17:58] <_name> betrayd: gives me 4 options #1 - default #2 0 HDA intel #3 1 Venus USB2.0 camera and #4 enter device name...
[17:58] <cuddylier> I mean owner of a directory to be root
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather_: great
[17:58] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: but i dont have ubuntu installed in the machine, I just want to run from a live cd
[17:58] <zembela> ActionParsnip: can you please connect me with teamviewer please ?
[17:58] <jrib> cuddylier: they need execute permission on parent directories
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> cuddlyier: if they open then directly then I believe so
[17:59] <jrib> cuddylier: for example, your user can access /home/username despite /home being owned by root
[17:59] <cuddylier> jrib So even if root owned the main directory, if they had execute permissions for their subdirectories it would work fine?
[17:59] <cuddylier> Ah good :)
[17:59] <cuddylier> ty
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: thats fine, you can add boot options to the live CD
[17:59] <jrib> cuddylier: they need execute permissions on parent directories not just the subdirectory
[17:59] <cuddylier> Oh..
[17:59] <cuddylier> crap
[17:59] <luc4_linux> Hi! I'm trying to replace my home directory with another one where I mount via fstab a partition. I tried to mv my old home into old_home and mkdir a new home dir. What happens is that when I reboot, the system is not booting, remains at the splash. Any idea why?
[18:00] <cuddylier> I only want users to access their directories though
[18:00] <bascherz1> ActionParsnip: recovery mode is not available in the boot menu, so I guess I am screwed.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> bascherz1: it is, hunt around
[18:00] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: how can i add boot options? after quiet splash theres "--" i shoudl add "--nomce" or "nomce" ?
[18:00] <bascherz1> ActionParsnip: there are only two entries, both are kernel versions I did not purge.
[18:01] <jrib> cuddylier: so what's the issue? Make sure they have execute on the parent directory (usually you just give "others" (as opposed to owner or group) execute)
[18:01] <betrayd> _name: you can set mixer settings for device #1, is the USB cam detachable
[18:01] <_name> betrayd: yea
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: keep the minuses in, add a space after them then add the option
[18:01] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/AkfhL48W this is after i sudo rmmod iwldvm and sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 and then sudo modprobe iwldvm then try to connect
[18:01] <betrayd> with a microphone _name?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> _name: what is the url made by the alsa-info.sh script
[18:02] <_name> betrayd: what do you mean?
[18:03] <cuddylier> jrib I have a program which I have set as root to run. When root tries to create users via the program, it gives the error [Errno 13] Permission denied
[18:03] <betrayd> work with ActionParsnip for now _name g2g somewhere
[18:03] <jrib> cuddylier: what program?
[18:03] <cuddylier> jrib Multicraft
[18:03] <mamece2> ActionParsnip: THank you! I love you but in a manly way :D
[18:03] <jrib> cuddylier: this doesn't seem related to your original question though.  Is the program running as root?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> mamece2: no probs, you learned about bot options too
[18:03] <cuddylier> Yes, it is
[18:03] <cuddylier> I have the program's user set as root
[18:04] <cuddylier> It is meant to create users and set servers to run in them
[18:04] <_name> ActionParsnip: locate didnt find that script
[18:04] <jrib> cuddylier: what does that mean exactly?  How did you set the program's user to root?
[18:04] <cuddylier> jrib In its config and I run the panel for it in root
[18:04] <jrib> cuddylier: what does "in root" mean?
[18:04] <cuddylier> as root user
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> _name: its not instaled or available by default. I gave you a command earlier to wget it....
[18:04] <jrib> cuddylier: /how/
[18:05] <jrib> cuddylier: tell me the steps you take to start the program
[18:05] <_name> ActionParsnip: didnt notice, you mustve misspelled my name
[18:05] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: looks like it's just not associating properly
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> _name: scroll up and you'll see it
[18:05] <cuddylier> jrib To start the program on each server box I want to run it on, I type /home/root/multicraft/bin/multicraft -nv start
[18:06] <jrib> cuddylier: and you're logged in as root at that point?
[18:06] <cuddylier> jrib On ssh, yep
[18:06] <cuddylier> On 'top' it says it's running as root
[18:06] <jrib> cuddylier: what option are you selecting in multicraft?  I'm not familiar with it but I'm reading through it now to see what it actually tries to do that it gets denied permission for
[18:06] <ghyth> is there a direct download from privatetunnel for ubuntu (it's OpenVPN product)
[18:07] <cuddylier> jrib In its multicraft.conf you set the user at the top, 'user= root'
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather_: could install wicd then remove network manager,see if it helps
[18:08] <ElUser> Hi all!
[18:08] <bascherz> ActionParsnip: Any other options for me since recovery mode appears not to be one?
[18:08] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: will you send me a good tut?
[18:09] <jrib> cuddylier: you're performing some action after running the command to start it before the permission error shows up right?  Or does the error show up as soon as you try to start it?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> bascherz: could use a chroot from liveCD
[18:09] <ElUser> А по русски разговаривает кто нибудь? ;(
[18:09] <jrib> !ru | ElUser
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather: you want a tutorial for installing on package then removing another, are you serious?
[18:10] <cuddylier> jrib After I start the daemon (program on each server box), I then have to create a server on it, it then runs the commands to create a user, creates a directory and then gives it perms to that directory
[18:10] <ElUser> Thank!
[18:10] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: ill figure it out
[18:10] <jrib> cuddylier: can you link me to this multicraft?  I found https://github.com/MJJoyce/MultiCraft/blob/master/MultiCraft.py but I'm not sure that's what you are using
[18:10] <cuddylier> jrib It gives that permission denied error I said earlier when I then try to execute a server, but I then looked at my user's list and no users were made
[18:10] <ntfshell> Hi everyone. :)
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather_: its 2 steps. first install wicd. second, remove network manager.....
[18:11] <ElUser> !ubuntu-ru
[18:11] <david_in_perth> Hi all, I could use some advice.
[18:11] <david_in_perth> I was right in the middle of reporting a bug and Unity froze/crashed.
[18:11] <david_in_perth> Now I can't close my programs
[18:11] <david_in_perth> it's weird, I can still interact with Quassel, Nautilus, Terminal, and Friefox, but I can't close, resize, bring-to-front or anything
[18:11] <FloodBot1> david_in_perth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:11] <david_in_perth> sorry
[18:11] <jrib> cuddylier: ah, is it this: http://www.multicraft.org?
[18:11] <cuddylier> Yes jrib
[18:12] <cuddylier> jrib Here is the commands it runs when a server is created: http://pastebin.com/8kc3r1EQ
[18:12] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: sorry, the last directions i read had like 3 network manager apps to remove
[18:12] <urgodfather_> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[18:13] <jrib> cuddylier: and you're sure it's failing on running the "addUser" command?
[18:13] <cuddylier> jrib I'm not 100% sure, but it certainly isn't creating the user
[18:13] <cuddylier> And it follows those commands above
[18:13] <RocknRolla> Wicd sucks not support pppoe
[18:14] <vooze> If I replaced some files in /usr/share/unity/6 is there some package I can reinstall to revert it back?
[18:14] <_name> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f55c462dbae1b3bf6942192600abdbf6e8219aad
[18:14] <jrib> cuddylier: is this a standard ubuntu install?  Root should be able to execute that without any issue.  What's the output of « ls -ld /usr/sbin/useradd »?
[18:14] <cuddylier> Yes jrib, let me try
[18:15] <cuddylier> jrib: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 91512 Sep  6  2012 /usr/sbin/useradd
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> _name: ok and what is the sound issue?
[18:16] <_name> ActionParsnip: the places where he plugs in his headphones dont always work, sometimes it only works in the front of his computer and sometimes only in the back
[18:18] <_name> ActionParsnip: and i dont remember the discussion we had very well ut i think he might have said both didnt work at a point but not sure on that one
[18:18] <SpacedOut> How does the 'PS Jenkins bot' review work?  I have a merge request up, I added it as a reviewer a day ago and without any updates.   lp:~spacedout/qtubuntu/fix_opengl_sharing into lp:qtubuntu
[18:20] <James_Epp> I did 'update-rc.d tftpd-hpa defaults' as root but the service is still not loading on startup. What can I do?
[18:20] <jrib> cuddylier: well try running the command yourself (filling in the parameters with some random values) and ensure it works.  It should... My thought is still that it is not being executed as root though I know you said that it is
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> _name: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[18:21] <jrib> James_Epp: why did you run that?  Did you do something to stop it from starting at startup?
[18:22] <James_Epp> jrib: It didn't run on its own in the first place. tftpd-hpa (in my experience) has never done this.
[18:22] <James_Epp> jrib: Even if I append /etc/default/tftpd-hpa   to include RUN_DAEMON="yes" it does not run on startup.
[18:23] <jrib> James_Epp: well it has a /etc/init/tftpd-hpa.conf which means it is managed by upstart, reading that file may shed some light on what's happening
[18:23] <James_Epp> jrib: Thanks for the place to start. RTFM awaaaay
[18:24] <jrib> James_Epp: /usr/share/doc/tftpd-hpa/README.Debian might say something too
[18:24] <gordonjcp> I never got tftpd-hpa working
[18:24] <gordonjcp> I suspect it's an elaborate hoax
[18:24] <_name> ActionParsnip: ...they both seem to be working
[18:24] <ElUser> Как там в русскую комнату войти?)
[18:24] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: what are you using tftp for?
[18:25] <_name> ActionParsnip: would those commands still help or cant anything be done until the problem is there again?
[18:25] <urgodfather> ActionParsnip: wicd didnt work... couldnt load
[18:25] <jrib> !ru | ElUser
[18:25] <James_Epp> gordonjcp: PXE booting along with some NFS
[18:25] <ElUser>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> _name: it defaults your sound setting configs, can help
[18:25] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: right, just use dnsmasq
[18:26] <James_Epp> what is it?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather: did you reboot?
[18:26] <cuddylier> jrib What are groups used for?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: it handles DNS, DHCP and PXE
[18:26] <jrib> !permissions | cuddylier
[18:26] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: it's just ridiculously suitable for PXE booting
[18:26] <_name> Action
[18:26] <James_Epp> grrdonjcp: But I will be using a pfsense box for handling DHCP
[18:26] <jrib> cuddylier: several users can be members of a group. You can manage permissions for a group of users in this way
[18:27] <ElUser>  /join ubuntu-ru
[18:27] <_name> ActionParsnip: apparently its the microphone not the speakers
[18:27] <cuddylier> jrib How do I view the current groups?
[18:27] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: then disable DHCP in dnsmasq
[18:27] <jrib> cuddylier: you can read /etc/group
[18:27] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: and make certain that pfsense can supply the correct DHCP parameters to the clients
[18:27] <urgodfather> ActionParsnip: i did
[18:28] <urgodfather> ActionParsnip: got some sort of dbus error
[18:28] <James_Epp> gordonjcp: I'm a really fresh n00b to all of this PxE stuff. Getting the packages installed is already a huge challenge for me. Half of the time, I've found I need a LOT of luck to get stuff working. Idk what dhcp parameters I would be looking at.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> urgodfather: weird, ok uninstall wicd and reinstall network manager
[18:29] <gordonjcp> James_Epp: I turned off DHCP on my router, and just used DNS on the VM hose
[18:29] <gordonjcp> *host
[18:29] <urgodfather> ActionParsnip: apparently it doesnt function properly with 13.04 yet (if i read this correctly)
[18:29] <gordonjcp> s/DNS/dnsmasq/
[18:29] <Charcoalcat> When I do "php -f test.php" in the terminal, the code isn't executed, it acts the exact same as "cat test.php". How do I actually execute it??
[18:29] <urgodfather> ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wicd/+bug/1132529
[18:29] <urgodfather> ActionParsnip: already did that
[18:30] <James_Epp> gordonjcp: Thanks for the assistance. I'll see what I can do.
[18:34] <cuddylier> jrib Yeah, the commands work, in the config they are in the order of creating the user before the group, but I assume that it knows to create the group first and then the user
[18:37] <Wolfje> Hello im following all the steps from: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source But still im getting tis errors: http://pastie.org/7926703#1-2,5-6,11-12
[18:37] <Wolfje> pastie.org/7926703#
[18:37] <alien64> is 12.10 not supported much now cuz it not offered as a download on the site download page?
[18:38] <gustav_> alien64: I think it is.
[18:39] <mgmt> I'm not sure what I did but now my install of 13.04 hangs at the splash screen until I hit esc a few times.  Anyone had this issue?
[18:39] <Wolfje> gustav_: Can you help?
[18:39] <gustav_> Wolfje: With?
[18:39] <Wolfje> Hello im following all the steps from: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source But still im getting tis errors: http://pastie.org/7926703#1-2,5-6,11-12
[18:39] <Tayler> Hey guys!
[18:40] <alien64> gustav_: is see 12.04 lts and 13.04 but no 12.10
[18:40] <Tayler> MY computer is fucked up lol
[18:40] <IdleOne> Tayler: no swearing please
[18:40] <Tayler> anybody need or want help?
[18:40] <gustav_> alien64: There's a list of how long each version is supported, somewhere.
[18:40] <gustav_> Wolfje: I'm reading.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> alien64: 12.10 is supported 18 months which is after 13.04 is EOL
[18:40] <Tayler> Oh, sorry, I didn't know.
[18:40] <Wolfje> gustav_: Thanks
[18:40] <mgmt> Tayler I could use some help lol
[18:40] <Tayler> What with?
[18:40] <gustav_> Wolfje: Can you paste on paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com?
[18:40] <Tayler> I am an 11 yr old code geek lol
[18:41] <mgmt> my computer hangs at the splash screen until I hit esc a few times
[18:41] <Tayler> are all drivers installed correctly?
[18:41] <Tayler> Go into software manager, and check for updates
[18:41] <mgmt> I would assume so, everything works
[18:41] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Do you know if there is going to be serious, solid support for Optimus in any upcoming release? It's kind of important, at least to me... or I can never upgrade.
[18:42] <alien64> ic
[18:42] <mgmt> If I set grub to nosplash debug everything works fine
[18:42] <alien64> ty
[18:42] <Tayler> hmm
[18:42] <mgmt> software is up to date
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: no idea. i think optimus is a cludge
[18:42] <Tayler> Debug grub
[18:42] <Tayler> see if it is having any issues
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: i am actively avoiding it
[18:42] <mgmt> how do you debug grub?
[18:42] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: No, Optimus is the actual hardware, you mean Bumblebee.
[18:42] <Tayler> lemme look, I am not the best at it lol
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: both
[18:43] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Hm, how to use GPU then?
[18:43] <Wolfje> gustav_: Yess i can
[18:43] <gustav_> Wolfje: Thanks.
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: if i avoid optimus then i dont have to mess with bumblebee
[18:43] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: True but no serious 3D acceleration either.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: buy a non-sandy/ivybridge CPU then but an nvidia based video card
[18:44] <Tayler> mgmt: You know your splash screen.. What does it display on it?
[18:44] <Wolfje> gustav_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5678098/
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> gustac_: not hard......
[18:44] <mgmt> Tayler what do you mean?
[18:44] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Hm, that fit in the same socket?
[18:44] <mgmt> it says ubuntu with the 5 or so dots that light up
[18:44] <Tayler> mgmt You said your splash screen hangs
[18:44] <gustav_> Wolfje: You need to install some missing packages.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: absolutely, why would it not?
[18:44] <Tayler> ahh, you meen the Ubuntu splash, not motherboard splash screen
[18:45] <Tayler> are you using 64bit?
[18:45] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Well... don't you want the fastest CPU? Haswell, won't it have the same, I mean a GPU in the CPU package?
[18:45] <mgmt> Tayler:  Yeah it just keeps lighting up the dots like its loading but it doesn't go anywhere until I hit esc twice
[18:45] <mgmt> no, I'm using 32bit
[18:45] <Tayler> mgmt what graphics card do you use?
[18:45] <mgmt> I think this one is a intel hd3000
[18:46] <mgmt> it uses the system ram as video memory
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: some of the "fastest cpus" dont have gpus built in
[18:46] <Tayler> hmm
[18:46] <Tayler> You might wanna change that
[18:46] <Tayler> using system RAM for video memory is a bad idea
[18:46] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Which do you rate as the fastest? Most expensive, most high end.
[18:46] <erle-> how can i capture master audio with avconv?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: benchmarks
[18:47] <tango> STV|TV-ASTRA|01 xdcc send #24
[18:47] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Not sure which are faster then Ivy Bridge, then.
[18:47] <Tayler> mgmt, open up terminal and paste "sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm && sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" without the quotes
[18:47] <gustav_> than
[18:47] <mgmt> Tayler:  I have this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230824
[18:48] <Wolfje> gustav_: Where and how?
[18:48] <Tayler> mgmt: go into terminal and paste "sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm && sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm"
[18:48] <gustav_> Wolfje: With apt-get. Do apt-cache search unity-protocol, apt-cache search libbamf3, apt-cache search compiz. Look for -dev. Install those.
[18:48] <mgmt> Tayler, ok, one min
[18:49] <gustav_> Wolfje: Then try again.
[18:49] <Tayler> mgmt: okay, tell me if it changes anything
[18:49] <mgmt> Tayler: do I set the default DM to gdm or lightdm?
[18:49] <mgmt> I'm currently using unity
[18:49] <Tayler> gdm
[18:49] <Tayler> Tell me if it works
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: lots are faster than ivy bridge, are you serious?
[18:50] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Which?
[18:50] <mgmt> alright, I gotta restart, back in two shakes
[18:50] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: I mean x86 or something you can buy in a laptop format.
[18:51] <i4c> after i installed some packages i have no sound, html5 and totem go superfast, like 2 times or 3 times faster
[18:51] <i4c> before it was normal
[18:51] <i4c> weird
[18:51] <i4c> and also only 1 sound output is detected, before 2 were
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: amd hsve decent decent gpus embedded in their mobile cpus
[18:52] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Ok, I don't mean the GPU. I don't want the internal GPU.
[18:52] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Which AMD is faster than the fastest Ivy Bridge?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: look at benchmarks
[18:52] <eipi-1> since a couple of days my laptop has the weirdest problems: starting with loosing internet connection via WLAN. In the log i found this: http://pastebin.com/NShz1r51 Afterwards it often can't reboot but shuts down instead. Same with suspend. Any ideas?
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> hi guys
[18:52] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Strange name for a CPU. :)
[18:52] <Tayler> I wouldn't say many, gustav_.. I suggest Ivy Bridge, but look at bench marks etc
[18:53] <Sc0rp10n> I have a question regarding ubuntu
[18:53] <gustav_> I already own an Ivy Bridge, so I'm not buying.
[18:53] <Tayler> ahh
[18:53] <Tayler> Yes, Sc0rp10n?
[18:53] <gustav_> 3920XM. It was the fastest when I bought. If I didn't miss any AMD.
[18:53] <Wolfje> gustav_: What do i need to do with -dev?
[18:54] <gustav_> Flash still lags, though.
[18:54] <Sc0rp10n> is it possible to replicate dev and staging enviroment running on aws on your local environment??
[18:54] <gustav_> Wolfje: Install. apt-get install PKGNAME-dev
[18:54] <Tayler> Hmm.. I am not quite sure, sorry.
[18:54] <mgmt> Tayler: broke it worse.  that made it so I couldn't esc out of the hanging splash screen
[18:54] <Sc0rp10n> I joined a new company and they are doing a migration of their code from a 3rd party to their own servers
[18:55] <Sc0rp10n> I have access to ubuntu instances on ec2 for their dev and staging
[18:55] <Sc0rp10n> how can I setup my own environment from that
[18:55] <Wolfje> gustav_: E: Unable to locate package PKGNAME-dev
[18:55] <seckt0r> o_O
[18:55] <gustav_> Wolfje: Yeah, the -dev packages you found.
[18:55] <Tayler> mgmt, okay, try this: Edit /etc/default/grub  change the line  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  to  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""  then run sudo update-grub2
[18:55] <Tayler> mgmt, then, tell me what line the boot hangs on
[18:56] <gustav_> Wolfje: You can use synaptic or aptitude if it's more convenient to you.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> gustav_ i7 3970X has a higher clock speed.....than the fastest i7
[18:56] <mgmt> Tayler: should I set it back to gdm? I just set it back to the original lightdm
[18:56] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Is that not an M?
[18:57] <Tayler> mgmt, are you running ubuntu 11.04?
[18:57] <mgmt> Tayler: no, 13.04
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: nope, no intel embedded gpu nonesense
[18:57] <Tayler> mgmt, okay, set it back to default values, then try: Edit /etc/default/grub  change the line  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  to  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""  then run sudo update-grub2
[18:57] <Wolfje> gustav_: Doesnt work
[18:57] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: It's more than GPU, I think. It's less power consuming. My whole laptop only consumes 60W.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: then grab an nvidia card, oh look, no bumblebee rubbish
[18:58] <Tayler> then, reboot your system, and tell me what line of text your computer hangs on
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: in laptops i use only intel gpus, loads less power
[18:58] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Newer version of the nVidia driver doesn't require bumblebee.
[18:58] <gustav_> Wolfje: Which?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: still not using it, its a poor solution to the problem it is intended to resolve
[19:00] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: I wasn't aware of it when I bought it.
[19:00] <gustav_> I got the impression it was "problem free."
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: thats the main issure, nobody does a tinybit of research before buying. you can save yourself effort and heartache by researching products you intrnd to buy to see how things go with it
[19:01] <Wolfje> gustav_: Doesnt work
[19:01] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Yeah but I can't research everything. That would take years and years. The problem now is the support and stubborn developers.
[19:02] <Wolfje> gustav_: If i doe the unity protocol he says not founded
[19:02] <gustav_> Wolfje: What doesn't work?
[19:02] <gustav_> Wolfje: Did you search for it?
[19:02] <Wolfje> gustav_: yES
[19:02] <gustav_> Wolfje: Maybe it's not in the repos.
[19:02] <gustav_> Wolfje: You're gonna have to download it and install it yourself.
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: look at what you want to buy, then check it out to see how it goes with Ubuntu. Not researching much at all.....
[19:03] <mgmt> Tayler: so setting that line to nothing in grub still shows the splash.  I set it to nosplash and it doesn't hang.  Is there
[19:03] <mgmt> is there a way to reinstall splash?
[19:03] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: I bought my laptop from a company that sells it with Ubuntu. I assumed it was guaranteed to work.
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> gustav_: if they set it up nice for you then itll probably work
[19:04] <gustav_> ActionParsnip: Yeah. ok
[19:07] <gustav_> Anyone have a problem?
[19:07] <seronis> yes.. but its xfce specific
[19:08] <gustav_> Ok?
[19:08] <gustav_> I'm not in XFCE but I have used it before.
[19:08] <seronis> cant figure out how to get Thunar to do REAL alphabetical name ordering when viewing files in list view
[19:08] <Wolfje> gustav_: Do you know where I can find that packages
[19:08] <seronis> its using the Windows  'smart'  method which is @#$%@ incorrect
[19:08] <gustav_> Wolfje: I'd Google it.
[19:09] <gustav_> seronis: Dirs first?
[19:09] <seronis> i have a TON (thousands) of hash based files..
[19:09] <seronis> and all the ones that happen to have their names start with 0's are out of order
[19:09] <bluechaos> hello
[19:09] <bluechaos> someone ?
[19:09] <seronis> because it treats numbers at the beginning of a filename as all one 'value' instead of on a character by character basis
[19:09] <sarge1221> Did the skype4pidgin project fall apart?
[19:10] <seronis> it puts things like<PHONE_NUMBER>9.bat  AFTER a file like 8zzzzzzzzzzzz.bat
[19:10] <gustav_> seronis: You think they implemented it wrong or an option is set wrong?
[19:10] <bluechaos> I have a problem  How to install vga ubuntu version 11.04
[19:11] <bluechaos> I cannot play without it
[19:11] <gustav_> seronis: Sorry, I'm a programmer, I might talk about internals.
[19:11] <seronis> its intended to be a smart option so that purely numeric based filenames will go in Numeric order
[19:11] <seronis> i dont want numeric order.. i want alphabetical
[19:11] <seronis> so am I.. its why the filenames are using hashes as the name
[19:12] <seronis> they're all various data sets
[19:12] <gustav_> seronis: It looks correct to me.
[19:12] <gustav_> seronis: What Ubuntu?
[19:12] <seronis> xubuntu 13.04
[19:12] <gustav_> Oh. 6bea... came before 08.jpg ... That's not right.
[19:12] <seronis> exactly
[19:13] <gustav_> So it's 3,4,5,5,6,0,1
[19:13] <bluechaos> guys can u help me...
[19:13] <gustav_> seronis: I'd call that a bug.
[19:13] <seronis> its not a bug.. its numeric ordering instead of alphabetical order
[19:13] <seronis> its just a horrible horrible feature
[19:13] <Wolfje> gustav_: Thanks...
[19:14] <seronis> windows7 does the same thing..  if a filename is prefixed with numeric digits it takes ALL the digits as one numeric value before sorting
[19:14] <seronis> instead of doing it letter by letter
[19:14] <gustav_> seronis: So change the filenames then.
[19:14] <seronis> not an option .. they're hashes of the contents
[19:14] <wting> When creating a bootable USB, what filesystem does it need to be?
[19:15] <wting> FAT32?
[19:15] <gustav_> seronis: Index them as you'd like them sorted.
[19:15] <gustav_> 9g8gr88r to 1 g9u8df8 to 2, etc
[19:15] <seronis> I want to be able to manually grab a specific file when i need just one
[19:16] <gustav_> You can search?
[19:16] <topo> ciao
[19:16] <topo> !list
[19:16] <seronis> there are workarounds i know.. which is why its not a FATAL flaw.. but i still want to know how to make it work properly
[19:16] <wting> nm, FAT32 it is
[19:17] <topo> !list
[19:17] <i4c> hi i have a issue when i installed some packages, all my audio was lost, it could detect only 1 out of 2 audio outputs and html5 and totem play 3 times the speed, any ideas on how to fix this problem ? by either reseting all sound or anything, i am very noob and clueless
[19:17] <gustav_> seronis: XFCE people are very stuck up about their choices. KDE will probably work better or let you chose.
[19:17] <erpo> I need to replace the failing hard drive in my Ubuntu 13.04 system. It has a regular BIOS (not UEFI). I think there might be problems with a 3TB HDD because I would have to use GPT to access the full capacity of the drive, but a PC BIOS won't boot from a GPT disk. Thoughts?
[19:18] <gustav_> seronis: Basically you're not in Windows any more.
[19:18] <OerHeks>  erpo does your bios support 3 tb ?
[19:18] <seronis> which is the whole point.  installed xubu 2 weeks ago and trying to solve my 'issues' as they come up
[19:18] <seronis> so far i havent had any thing bad enough to even make me consider switching back
[19:18] <gustav_> The problem with Linux you always get STUCK.
[19:19] <gustav_> And you come here, and no one helps.
[19:19] <erpo> OerHeks: I didn't realize a non-UEFI BIOS could support 3TB.
[19:19] <OerHeks> erpo it can, check the manual.
[19:20] <erpo> OerHeks: I will. Thanks!
[19:20] <seronis> its not quite that bad =-)  this is the only thing im currently 'stuck' on.   Got mailto: links set to use gmail with a 2 line script.  Got a script to be able to grab screen captures, auto upload them to imgur and put a link to the url in the clipboard for quick sharing
[19:21] <seronis> dev environment (CodeBlocks, IntelliJ, Boost, SFML, OpenGL, Java) all set up very easily
[19:21] <gustav_> I'm happy about most things with my setup right now. Some major problems... Flash lags... Too hot CPU... optirun/nvidia crashes in supertuxkart.
[19:22] <seronis> the nvidia (preferred, tested) drivers work but dont allow me to compile my own SFML apps.  havent had an issue with XOrg generic drive
[19:22] <gustav_> And of course Shuttleworth seems like a moron.
[19:22] <gustav_> seronis: Preferred & tested...?
[19:22] <seronis> it was marked that way in the restricted driver control panel
[19:22] <Ari-Yang> hi, I seem to have a problem with hdmi
[19:23] <gustav_> o_o
[19:23] <gustav_> Xorg has removed so much control I used to have over the X server.
[19:23] <Ari-Yang> I hook up my laptop to hdmi, then go to system settings and then display. I select the name of the monitor and hit 'apply' and I get this http://gyazo.com/3d41bc2ddb8d8ec93784b08eaa8a7eb1
[19:23] <Ari-Yang> (I'm using E17 DE btw)
[19:23] <gustav_> Only to become more instable and only to satisfy Windows game nerds.
[19:24] <seronis> just rechecked..   (proprietary, tested)  the 3.10 driver
[19:24] <Ari-Yang> here's a screen shot of the Displays window http://gyazo.com/34d56368449b277e7f2a8ac75f0a4ecb
[19:24] <seronis> i figure i would try the 'tested' one .. and a couple steam games and sfml apps didnt work
[19:24] <gustav_> I'm running 313.09. It's bad.
[19:24] <seronis> didnt try the others cause XOrg was working before trying the nvidia one
[19:24] <gustav_> But fast.
[19:26] <seronis> i have noticed flash lags sometimes.  is that specific to the adobe package?  its what was installed from the liveusb.  havent tried the generic
[19:26] <Ari-Yang> I'm using open source drivers if that helps
[19:26] <gustav_> seronis: I have no idea. Seems like scheduling is wrong. I have no idea.
[19:27] <seronis> ok
[19:27] <tel> HI
[19:27] <seronis> Ari-Yang, i havent tried using my hdmi output yet so no experience with that. Idle for awhile and maybe someone else will respond
[19:28] <Ari-Yang> yeah...
[19:30] <gustav___> Ari-Yang: I'm keeping quiet because HDMI works for me yet I don't know why.
[19:31] <Ari-Yang> are you using open source drivers, gustav___?
[19:31] <Ari-Yang> or proprietary drivers?
[19:31] <gustav___> nvidia-current.
[19:31] <darkapp> hello
[19:31] <seronis> you've peaked my curiosity though.. gonna drag laptop to living room and see if i can put netflix on the lcd
[19:31] <darkapp> i formatted my usb for a network install, and now i need to get back what was on it beforehand
[19:32] <Ari-Yang> gustav___, so that's proprietary?
[19:32] <darkapp> anyone know the proper dd command?
[19:32] <gustav___> Ari-Yang: Yes.
[19:32] <Ari-Yang> hmmm
[19:32] <Ari-Yang> gustav___: http://gyazo.com/3d41bc2ddb8d8ec93784b08eaa8a7eb1 think I might have to do something with xrandr?
[19:32] <darkapp> this is my lsblk
[19:32] <Ari-Yang> gustav___, what DE are you on?
[19:32] <darkapp> http://pastebin.com/a3aUGEaH
[19:33] <Ari-Yang> I'm using ati open source drivers...
[19:33] <darkapp> my passwords are on it, so i rlly need this
[19:33] <gustav___> Ari-Yang: WindowMaker.
[19:33] <gustav___> airtonix: I used xrandr to setup HDMI.
[19:33] <Ari-Yang> okay, maybe I have to use xrandr too
[19:33] <gustav___> Oops.
[19:34] <gustav___> Ari-Yang: Just run xrandr on the terminal and if HDMI is configured correctly it will pop up.
[19:35] <Ari-Yang> gustav___, I'll try again
[19:35] <Ari-Yang> hooking up laptop to dmi again
[19:35] <Ari-Yang> * hdmi
[19:36] <gustav___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5678256/ This is me right now. No cable in HDMI.
[19:37] <Ari-Yang> gustav___, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Bs4jtw9P
[19:37] <Ari-Yang> with hdmi plugged in
[19:37] <Ari-Yang> right now it says on the tv monitor that there is 'No Signal'
[19:37] <lifeboy> Anyone here over the weekend that can give advice on loading the latest rc kernel on 12.04 to get a patch?
[19:37] <ShemlKane> what file does a live USB boot from, my BIOS is retarded
[19:37] <seronis> Ari-Yang, with nvidia (xorg oss drivers) plugging in my hdmi cable made the option show up in the display control panel
[19:38] <seronis> sound is NOT automatically transferring like it does in Windows, and my laptops resolution swapped to match that of the tv (which makes part of it cut off and not visible on the laptop screen)
[19:38] <lifeboy> I run 12.04 64bit and have run into the KVM bug 1071322 and need to patch it, but don't quite see how.
[19:38] <ShemlKane> what file does a live USB boot from, my BIOS is retarded
[19:39] <upomoc> hi is it posible to export wifi driwers from 12.04 ubuntu and use them in 13.04 ubuntu
[19:39] <seronis> took about 2 seconds for 'no signal' to disappear once i enabled 'use this device' in the display control panel