[01:25] <ompaul> codenut, some guy in at&t in 1981 if I recall correctly
[01:25] <dbzdeath> ompaul: opinion can't be wrong... you should know that because opinion is NOT fact
[01:26] <codenut> ompaul:I have messed up more systems as root than I could care to imagine.
[01:26] <brownie17> dbzdeath: ompaul:if this was worth fighting over, then i would probably join in with one of you, but let's just all agree to disagree. becasue i don't like unecesary conflict, and i don'rt want anyone to get banned
[01:26] <Nalioth> brownie17: su is "switch user" sudo is "super user do"
[01:27] <bimberi> codenut: http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/history.html
[01:27] <brownie17> nalioth: so whne people so "su", then mean, log in as root?
[01:27] <sewoyl> hello, the network configuration window only shows a WEP key field for my wifi, but the network uses a WPA key. Is it impossible to connect to such a network with ubuntu 5.04?
[01:27] <codenut> thanks brownie.
[01:27] <pirast> !gcc4
[01:27] <ubotu> pirast: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:28] <brownie17> codenut: :) no worries mate
[01:28] <Carpe_Libertatem> !info debaux
[01:28] <ubotu> debaux: (Debian Auxiliary Programs), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.1.7-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[01:28] <ompaul> dbzdeath, okay, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <Nalioth> brownie17: usually, "su" means log in as root, cuz most folks dont have a multiuser machine at home (and why would they log into Janes account anyway?)
[01:28] <Orby> people su rather than sudo cos its less to type :)
[01:28] <brownie17> nalioth: hahaha
[01:29] <HappyFool> hrm. courtesan.com is not a domain i would associate with linux security
[01:29] <kemik> Orby:  indeed, and thus they more frequently break there systems
[01:29] <brownie17> orby: that ridiculous, its two more letters! it only takes about .25 of a second
[01:29] <codenut> way cool info on sudo, neat to note it is 10 years old.
[01:29] <Orby> kemik: they shouldnt even have root on their system then :D
[01:29] <HappyFool> sounds more like 25 years to me
[01:30] <codenut> I like being isolated from my system a bit, I have to think more.
[01:30] <codenut> Thinking more is good in my case.
[01:30] <brownie17> hahaha
[01:30] <kemik> brownie17:  nah, it takes 4 more letters for each command... doing "su" will log you in as root 'permanently'
[01:30] <sewoyl> can anybody help me with my wpa key thing?
[01:31] <Cashel> that was unpleasant... and I'm back to 14.4 :(
[01:31] <kemik> Cashel:  modem ?
[01:31] <brownie17> kemik: oh i get you
[01:32] <Cashel> kemik, softmodem :(
[01:32] <brownie17> sewoyl: sorry, i nkow nothiing about wifi, ask madpilot or nalioth :) they alwasy help me out!
[01:32] <brownie17> so... who lives in australia?
[01:32] <robert-in-au> hello again
[01:33] <Nalioth> brownie17: that is a nice thing to say, but i've got some serious limits in my knowledge
[01:33] <sewoyl> brownie17, thanks for noticing me :)
[01:33] <robert-in-au> me!!!
[01:33] <bimberi> sewoyl: there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[01:33] <brownie17> sewoyl: i know how frustrating not knowing anything about an Os is, form experience :)
[01:33] <brownie17> nalioth: so did jesus :)
[01:34] <Cashel> no love for HappyFool?? mans been bustin his arse in here all night...
[01:34] <slibs> does anyone have a clue why, when i play some game, for an example stepmania, after i have stopped playing and i close the game, my keyboard won't let me hold keys anymore, but if i reboot x then, everythings is back to normal
[01:34] <sewoyl> bimberi, thanks i'll check that out!
[01:34] <bimberi> sewoyl: yw :)
[01:35] <Cashel> "hold keys" ?
[01:35] <BurgerMann> I'm using KDE, does anyone know any irc clients that comes near mIRC?
[01:35] <Nalioth> BurgerMann: try xchat
[01:35] <bobbyd> BurgerMann, xchat is cool
[01:35] <brownie17> so, what's the deal with that ubuntu guide thing? it's unoffical and very unnacurate.
[01:35] <BurgerMann> I'm already using xchat.. heh
[01:35] <Nalioth> brownie17: i see most folks' questions, but if i dont have the knowledge, i generally don't answer
[01:35] <Nalioth> brownie17: lets not bring that up.. .. ..
[01:36] <HappyFool> !tell brownie17 about ubuntuguide
[01:36] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[01:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[01:36] <hume> anyone knows if there is a way to make ssh translate between character sets?
[01:36] <kemik> the official FAQ will be nice
[01:36] <brownie17> nalioth: i like to answer anyway, even though i never know the answer, just so people know they've been heard. but either is fine.
[01:36] <kemik> hume:  nafaik
[01:37] <ompaul> hume, no, but I have one mad idea, set the environment in the shell that shh uses just before you ssh -C who@what
[01:37] <hume> ok, thx
[01:37] <ompaul> hume that may be a good idea but as to how you would do it I do not know
[01:38] <robert-in-au> where is the best place to put a small how-to to get toshiba A200 (maybe others) keyboard/touchpad working
[01:38] <robert-in-au> because i found how to do it
[01:38] <HappyFool> robert-in-au: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <Cashel> hume, is your reason for asking because of escape characters... ?
[01:39] <robert-in-au> k - shlud i put it in the forums too
[01:39] <slibs> robert-in-au, also ubuntu forums is good
[01:39] <hume> Cashel, no, swedish characters in file names (i know....but people use them)
[01:39] <robert-in-au> k
[01:39] <HappyFool> robert-in-au: you need to get an account; it's free and instant, here: http://launchpad.net
[01:39] <kemik>  ;)
[01:39] <hume> Cashel, makes files duplicate and enter chaos
[01:39] <hume> kemik, right..:)...swede?
[01:39] <kemik> yup
[01:39] <hume> solution..:?...
[01:40] <kemik> as ompaul said perhaps.. try setting the locale variable just before SSH'ing
[01:40] <codenut> When I try to ssh into my ubuntu box I get disconnected right away
[01:40] <codenut> It is there, just locked out, any hints on enabling it on my home network?
[01:41] <Cashel> bummer
[01:41] <slibs> can you recommend me a way to get icons working again in themes (icons that belongs to downloaded theme) after i installed gperfection2 all icons in nautilus stopped working
[01:41] <Alex_BO> i have to compile a program, but it has a lot of dependecies.is there a way to resolve automatically these dependencies?
[01:42] <Nalioth> codenut: are you running "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:42] <HappyFool> codenut:  /var/log/auth.log to find out why
[01:42] <HappyFool> hmm
[01:42] <HappyFool> was still editing that. stupid emacs.
[01:42] <codenut> Thanks I will look
[01:44] <brownie17> back
[01:45] <brownie17> i wanted to change my name to just brownie, but it was allready registered
[01:45] <hachre> hehe
[01:45] <bobbyd> how do I stop applications I install adding themselves to the startup list?
[01:45] <hachre> next time use /nick brownie :P
[01:45] <bobbyd> and how do i gety a list of what is run on startup?
[01:45] <reiki_> how do I kill off a "ghost" of myself here?
[01:45] <Nalioth> bobbyd: don't install them
[01:46] <bobbyd> Nalioth, but I want to install some things and only run them sometimes
[01:46] <Nalioth> reiki_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[01:46] <hachre> reiki_: /msg nickserv help
[01:46] <shinu> anyone here uses a usb bluetooth adapter?
[01:46] <codenut> Happyfool, I just used a text editor in a terminal window called "editor"
[01:46] <Nalioth> !tell bobbyd about smeg
[01:46] <codenut> worked great.
[01:46] <HappyFool> shinu: i do now and then
[01:46] <brownie> it still says it is ownedby someone else hachre
[01:46] <Nalioth> bobbyd: ubotu is helping you out
[01:46] <hachre> brownie: oh, thats what you mean
[01:46] <Nalioth> brownie: then you're on borrowed time
[01:46] <brownie> brb
[01:46] <codenut> I did not see SSHd in the auth.log files
[01:46] <hachre> brownie: well you can use it as long as the other brownie doenst mind :)
[01:47] <shinu> HappyFool: simple question: how do i get it to work? :)
[01:47] <codenut> I would love to use Midnight Commander on this box.
[01:47] <shinu> HappyFool: can i use something similar to ndiswrapper or the likes?
[01:47] <HappyFool> shinu: i installed gnome-bluetooth, and then tweaked a pin file somewhere
[01:47] <apokryphos> ompaul: no, that's an extra plugin ;-)
[01:47] <apokryphos> Nalioth: cool; I do night shifts too often. How do you find them?
[01:47] <bobbyd> Nalioth, I'm not talking about menus, I'm talking about the sysv stuff
[01:47] <shinu> HappyFool: i just apt-got bluetooth-tools
[01:48] <HappyFool> shinu: /etc/bluetooth/pin is one place to set the pin
[01:48] <shinu> HappyFool: wait.. ill search for a tutorial maybe...
[01:48] <Nalioth> bobbyd: sorry, we're out of my league at this point
[01:48] <HappyFool> shinu: i think there's a way to get a prompt, but this worked for me
[01:48] <shinu> HappyFool: so i have to set a fixed pin?
[01:48] <Nalioth> apokryphos: its the 12 hour break in between that kills me
[01:48] <apokryphos> Nalioth: do you sleep as soon as you get home?
[01:48] <HappyFool> shinu: no, as i said, there's a way to get a prompt, but i'm not sure how
[01:48] <shinu> see
[01:49] <shinu> HappyFool: ill mess around a bit and come back :P
[01:49] <Nalioth> apokryphos: nope
[01:49] <apokryphos> :|
[01:49] <ompaul> apokryphos, ehh, okay
[01:49] <Nalioth> apokryphos: monday morning (when i get off) i'm damn near dead
[01:49] <ilba7r> any one use fluxbox?
[01:50] <apokryphos> Nalioth: most I've done is 5 nights in a row =)
[01:50] <Nalioth> apokryphos: 2 12-hour shifts with a 12hr break in between
[01:50] <apokryphos> Nalioth: I pretty much always sleep when I get home.
[01:50] <bimberi> bobbyd: 2 possibilities.  Have a look at update-rc.d or using ...
[01:50] <apokryphos> mine are only 10 hours though
[01:50] <bimberi> !tell bobbyd about bum
[01:50] <ompaul> 7 nights of 13 hours in the 80's, ohh what fun we had
[01:51] <ompaul> half an hour on each end to hand over
[01:51] <Nylira> Is there anyone here that knows how I can force dmegs to update the info it has?
[01:51] <ompaul> Nylira, what info do you want it to have
[01:52] <Nalioth> alright, i've got to have a nap
[01:52] <Nylira> I had a usb device attached which crashed
[01:52] <Nylira> The device itself is now unplugged
[01:52] <highvoltage> how do i access my cellphone's gprs modem with bluetooth?
[01:52] <Nylira> but dmesg keeps giving me crap that the device is still found
[01:52] <brownie> hachre: i can't :( becasue i can't identify i can only get into the unreggistered lobby without his password
[01:53] <hachre> oh
[01:53] <hachre> brownie: i see :(
[01:53] <Nylira> amazingly though the SCSI disk it presumes its on gives errors .. which is rather logical since it is neither connected not mounted
[01:54] <Nylira> my proc/scsi/scsi correctly tells me which scis devices are attached
[01:55] <pef> hi
[01:55] <Nylira> dmegs seems to be the only pain since it refuses to update
[01:55] <Nylira> added problem is now that when I plug in the device dmegs gets even more confused
[01:55] <ompaul> Nylira, I do not have an answer but I would be looking at something like this http://tinyurl.com/72t6e and search the page for refresh
[01:55] <pho> hi
[01:56] <ompaul> Nylira, can you plug it in to another usb port ?
[01:57] <pho> when i want to get the browser showing internetpages, or the messengers connect i have to reset the connection by the router after each boot....
[01:57] <pho> is there a program existing which solves that problem?
[01:58] <Nylira> well I did that previously also
[01:58] <Nylira> When I first plugged the device it allocated the thing to sdc
[01:58] <Nylira> device crashed
[01:58] <Nylira> unmounted it
[01:58] <Nylira> Dmesg showed it was still attached while proc/scsi/scsi told me it wasnt
[01:58] <Nylira> replugged it
[01:59] <Nylira> then it added the same device another time but now under sdd
[01:59] <Carpe_Libertatem> in cli what's the ls equivalent to DOS' "dir /w" ?
[01:59] <Nylira> so currently while I have now cleanly unmounted the device
[01:59] <shinu> HappyFool: i just downloaded gnome-bluetooth and it worked :P
[01:59] <Nylira> I STILL have this device on sdc AND sdd
[02:00] <Nylira> or so says dmesg
[02:00] <HappyFool> shinu: good stuff ;)
[02:00] <spiral> hi
[02:00] <Nylira> I looked at that page but I cant make much of it
[02:00] <HappyFool> Carpe_Libertatem: plain 'ls' ?
[02:00] <HappyFool> Carpe_Libertatem: what do you want from ls? /w is 'wide', right?
[02:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> Yes.
[02:00] <shinu> HappyFool: ^^ but ill fiddle around later to see if i can get it working any *other* way :D
[02:01] <dbzdeath> anyone know of a good program to extract multiple archives? like zip rar arj etc.?
[02:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> ok, I guess the window wasn't stretched large enough
[02:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> =P
[02:01] <brownie> i guess you have all heard of winamp, i want to know if beep media player can acces the "shoutcast tv" broadcasts that winamp can?
[02:01] <HappyFool> shinu: if you want to transfer files etc you can hack obex-ftp
[02:01] <HappyFool> shinu: but it's not (even remotely) user friendly
[02:02] <dbzdeath> brownie: xmms should be able to access shoutcast... dunno about beep media player
[02:02] <linforcer> hey can anyone tell me where I find with whirch useflags  certain ubuntu packages have been compiled?
[02:02] <linforcer> (more specifically vlc)
[02:02] <brownie> dbzdeath: which is better? the userguide recommened beep, is xmms good?
[02:02] <dbzdeath> brownie: xmms is basically the same as winamp.. so if you like winamp i'd go with xmms
[02:02] <shinu> HappyFool: heh... i was trying to run this bluetooth file sharing but seems like it doesnt work xD
[02:03] <dbzdeath> i've never used beep media player
[02:03] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: afaik bmp is xmms with gtk ui
[02:03] <reiki> !smeg
[02:03] <ubotu> smeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:03] <HappyFool> shinu: the libs are there, but the apps need to catch up
[02:03] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: oh?
[02:03] <shinu> heh
[02:03] <dbzdeath> hmm HappyFool isn't xmms gtk ui?
[02:03] <dbzdeath> by default
[02:03] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: so i believe
[02:04] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: i'm not really in the know; this is what i remember reading here on #ubuntu
[02:04] <dbzdeath> ah gtk vs gtk2?
[02:04] <dbzdeath> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[02:05] <brownie> this is going to sound REALLY stupid, but what is a kernel
[02:06] <brownie> it has something to do with the basic i/o of the OS, but thats all i know
[02:06] <HappyFool> brownie: the lowest level of the OS. it manages the computer's resources (hardware) for higher levels of the system
[02:06] <scumbo> linforcer, I think you'd need to grab the source package to see the compile flags.  Some progs (e.g. vim) tell you their flags with a --version flag, but it's not standard.
[02:06] <brownie> happyfool: so why do things keep telling me to do stuff i need to recompile my own?
[02:06] <Cashel> a kernel is the engine that runs the OS ... like back in the old msdos days command.com and io.sys / msdos.sys
[02:06] <HappyFool> brownie: things like ?
[02:07] <brownie> firewire ethernet
[02:07] <Cashel> yeah, what HappyFool said..
[02:07] <reiki> hmmm... anyone installed smeg recently from backports? I get this: smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[02:07] <reiki> telling me it's a broken package
[02:07] <apokryphos> !smeg
[02:07] <ubotu> [smeg]  a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:07] <HappyFool> brownie: hmm. in linux usually one can add support for extra hardware by loading modules, but i don't know about firewire ethernet
[02:07] <apokryphos> hm, I thought the backports one had a problem
[02:07] <brownie> reiki: give up
[02:07] <brownie> reiki: i got the same error, and if you ever get smeg to work correctly , i will be very surprised.
[02:08] <brownie> reiki: i *eventually* managed to get it installed, but could no create new menus or icons
[02:08] <HappyFool> brownie: you can recompile the kernel, but it's not recommended for new users. read this wiki page:
[02:08] <reiki> brownie: that's weird because I used it on my first ubuntu install
[02:08] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[02:08] <ubotu> [kernelhowto]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[02:09] <brownie> happyfool: i do not beleive in any way i have the expertise to do it... but i jsut wanted to learn about it
[02:09] <dbzdeath> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-ac6c54092f78610507acbb69242c51551d689ff3 <--- anyone know the package name that archive manager mentioned there goes by? since i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed
[02:09] <brownie> reiki: yes, well i have spent hours in here trying to fix the problem, and if you get it fixed, PLEASE email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>once again thats<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:09] <HappyFool> brownie: it's not *that* hard, and it will certainly be educational. one can keep the stock ubuntu kernels around in case things go wrong
[02:10] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: file-roller, at a guess
[02:10] <HappyFool> !info file-roller
[02:10] <ubotu> file-roller: (an archive manager for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 661 kB, Installed size: 4352 kB
[02:10] <fish7678> hello I'm running a amd 64 bit system with an ati radion 9250 and I'm having intermittent crash/freez problems. can ne one help me
[02:10] <fish7678> ?
[02:10] <dbzdeath> nuts unrar wasn't working for some reason... but i got unrar-nonfree and that works..
[02:11] <shinu> HappyFool: where do the files i send from my phone to the comp get saved?
[02:11] <HappyFool> shinu: um
[02:11] <HappyFool> i think they end up in your home directory
[02:11] <HappyFool> shinu: e.g., /home/shinu
[02:11] <Cashel> fish7678, wheres it crashing?
[02:12] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: cheers.. that appears to be it
[02:12] <brownie> happyfool: i think if i could print that out and spent a day or two just fiddling and going through it, i could do it, but i do not want to risk what i have just spent three weeks getting to work
[02:12] <qt2> err, might someone help my firend fish7678, he's having so many problems getting his amd64 system stable it's not even funny.
[02:12] <dbzdeath> qt2: what is going on exactly?
[02:12] <qt2> err, it jsut randomly freezes when using various gnome programs
[02:12] <shinu> HappyFool: seems like i didnt get that file then ;.;
[02:13] <dbzdeath> qt2: the gnome programs freeze? or the entire computer?
[02:13] <brenner> dbzdeath: non  free unrar can handle certain rar archives normal unrar can't iir.
[02:13] <fish7678> and the monitor goes out of its frequency range from time to time...
[02:13] <HappyFool> qt2, fish7678: maybe use the non-accelerated nvidia drivers?
[02:13] <shinu> HappyFool: my phone timed out :P its going fine now...
[02:13] <dbzdeath> brenner: ahhh
[02:13] <qt2> dbzdeath, the entire computer hard locks.
[02:13] <qt2> HappyFool, he's using an ati card.
[02:13] <dbzdeath> qt2: hmmm... just a default install?
[02:13] <dbzdeath> AHHH
[02:13] <HappyFool> err
[02:13] <dbzdeath> ati = bad
[02:13] <dbzdeath> haha
[02:13] <fish7678> hep
[02:13] <fish7678> lol
[02:13] <apokryphos> qt2: is this a fresh install?
[02:13] <dbzdeath> i'd look there probably
[02:14] <brenner> dbzdeath: quote from the unrar package descr.: "Can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format."
[02:14] <qt2> dbzdeath, heh, yeah, i know that, told him that too, he insisted on it anyway ;)
[02:14] <qt2> apokryphos, that it is.
[02:14] <apokryphos> there's no reason why it should lock up
[02:14] <dbzdeath> qt2: sorry but i can't be of much help if its the ati card... i've only ever used nvidia cards
[02:14] <qt2> and yet it does. ;)
[02:14] <apokryphos> regardless of whether you're using an ATI card. ATI provides lame support for Linux, but that mostly means you won't get cool affects with X
[02:15] <brownie> there is nothing wrong with ATI cards, they are a perfect replacemtn for an nivdia, at reasonable prices, and fairly stable if not overclocked
[02:15] <dbzdeath> apokryphos: yeah well i've still heard of it doing dodgy things
[02:15] <apokryphos> if everythng freezes (and not just x), it sounds more like kernel problems
[02:15] <Cashel> qt2, fish7678, did you comment the Section "DRI" and Load "glx" portions of the xorg.conf when you installed the xfglrx drivers?
[02:15] <dbzdeath> on a nix system
[02:15] <dbzdeath> [20:15]  <apokryphos> if everythng freezes (and not just x), it sounds more like kernel problems<-- it might be just X ... they may not know the difference?
[02:16] <brownie> i have been using the ATI card for three years, a 32 radeon VE and i can still play most modern games
[02:16] <Cashel> the problem with ATI cards (the reason everyone hates them) are the drivers, not the cards themselves
[02:16] <dbzdeath> yeah the drivers are bad...
[02:16] <dbzdeath> in both systems really ... although linux is worse
[02:16] <brownie> cashel: i've never had a problem with the drivers, what do you mean?
[02:16] <dbzdeath> *in both windows and linux
[02:16] <apokryphos> brownie: on WIndows it's generally good
[02:17] <apokryphos> but the Linux support/drivers are terrible. ATI simply don't care for unix
[02:17] <dalamar> lack of open source with ati drivers is the bad thing
[02:17] <brownie> apokryphos: i havent been using it for very long on linux
[02:17] <dbzdeath> lol my mate has to use a lower agp due to his ati card
[02:17] <dbzdeath> agp speed
[02:17] <brownie> dalamar:
[02:17] <dbzdeath> due to incompatibility with his motherboard or something
[02:17] <brownie> dbzdeath: get PCI express :)
[02:17] <apokryphos> qt2: does he have the appropriate kernel for his 64-bit?
[02:17] <Cashel> brownie, AGP support is crappy, 3d excel in X is only recently workable and still a bit heavy on memory...
[02:17] <brownie> SLI!!!!
[02:17] <dbzdeath> brownie: i'm not having the problem :P
[02:18] <Cashel> theres a work around for the radeon agp 4x issue under winblows..
[02:18] <qt2> Cashel, cant keep it going long enough to install fglrx.
[02:18] <brownie> "3D excel in X"? argh, jargon attack! i dont understand
[02:18] <brownie> dbzdeath: :)
[02:18] <qt2> apokryphos, he downloaded the amd64 version of ubuntu, so i'd assume so.
[02:18] <dbzdeath> qt2: hmm... all default? server install?
[02:18] <dalamar> 3d acceleration in X windows... basically why anyone has a high end graphics card
[02:18] <Cashel> qt2, what apokryphos just said... sounds like kernel issues...
[02:19] <brownie> cashel: with ya
[02:19] <qt2> dbzdeath, yeah, i guess, he essentially just hit enter and filled in the ntwork and resolution info.
[02:19] <dbzdeath> hmm
[02:19] <brownie> cashel: i think it was the excel that put me out
[02:19] <Cashel> dalamar :)
[02:19] <dbzdeath> qt2: when it freezes does ctrl + alt + backspace do anything?
[02:19] <dalamar> heh
[02:19] <Cashel> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-60.html&ei=I-UaQ4qQLrC6YLDjoaQL
[02:19] <dbzdeath> ie. are you ABSOLUTELY sure the entire system freezes and not just X
[02:20] <qt2> apokryphos, Cashel, i'd assume that the amd64 versionof ubuntu  would have the correct kernel.
[02:20] <styles`> im suprised how fast ubuntu responds on my system
[02:20] <apokryphos> qt2: correct
[02:20] <qt2> dbzdeath, no response, the sysrq method does nothing either.
[02:20] <dbzdeath> qt2: what mobo chipset? nvidia or via or?
[02:20] <styles`> i would think it runs at the same speed my gentoo was running
[02:20] <qt2> dbzdeath, nvidia nforce 4
[02:20] <styles`> without all the damn compiling which now i think was a waste of time
[02:20] <brownie17> ARGH!!! note to self - do not press every key combination people say to you, just becasue they say it.. last time you logged off
[02:21] <dbzdeath> mmm nforce
[02:21] <dbzdeath> heard of them having some incompatibility issues
[02:21] <dbzdeath> brownie17: lol!! i think i did that first time i found out about ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:21] <dbzdeath> sorry
[02:21] <brownie17> dbzdeath: haha not your fault, my inquisite nature
[02:22] <dbzdeath> curiosity killed the cat
[02:22] <brownie17> dbzdeath: i was expecting it to be like control alt delete
[02:22] <dbzdeath> or... X :P
[02:22] <brownie17> dbzdeath: so is there a control + alt + del type replacement thing?
[02:22] <scumbo> qt2, have you tried the system without running X?  Maybe this problem isn't the gfx card.
[02:22] <Cashel> qt2, maybe try noapci according to one of those in that link I sent you...
[02:22] <dbzdeath> brownie17: depends on the window manager...
[02:23] <brownie17> im using gnome if that's what your asking
[02:23] <dbzdeath> Cashel: that link brings you to various posts?
[02:23] <dbzdeath> brownie17: i've used gnome for .... 15 mins at most i hate the thing
[02:23] <dbzdeath> so i have no idea about knome
[02:23] <dbzdeath> *gnome
[02:23] <dbzdeath> i prefer xfce :)
[02:23] <Cashel> yes
[02:23] <Cashel> various posts..
[02:24] <dalamar> ive seen links about setting ctrl+alt+del to run system monitor, which is basically what it does in windows
[02:24] <Cashel> but then I'm a weirdo
[02:24] <brownie17> dbzdeath: really? is KDE really any better!? i remember in FEDORA you cna choose either, but i don't remember there being any realy big differnece, although i only used fedora for 15 mins max when i discovered there was no drivers for my dial up modem
[02:24] <dbzdeath> brownie17: i prefer kde to gnome.. but kde is a bit too bulky for me
[02:24] <fish7678> ubuntu froze agin...
[02:24] <dbzdeath> i find icewm and fluxbox a little bare
[02:24] <qt2> scumbo, as gar as i could tell, it worked fine in console mode.
[02:24] <dbzdeath> and xfce is sorta in the middle
[02:24] <styles`> ubuntu doesnt have anything to check what services are started up at boot time?
[02:24] <dbzdeath> so thats why i like xfce :)
[02:25] <brownie17> dbzdeath: what is xfce? i have not really ever heard much about it
[02:25] <qt2> Cashel, whats the difference between noapci and noacpi?
[02:25] <Cashel> fish7678, I'd try reading some of these: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-60.html
[02:25] <brownie17> !tell brownie about xfce
[02:25] <dalamar> styles`, install BUM
[02:25] <styles`> kde is evil =P
[02:25] <dbzdeath> brownie17: xfce.org .. check out the screenies
[02:25] <Cashel> qt2, ones a typo, the other isnt, lol
[02:25] <styles`> is it compatible with gtk gnome?
[02:25] <qt2> acpi is the non-typo. :P
[02:25] <dbzdeath> styles`: yeah kde is a pain.. specially being on gentoo and waiting for it to compile ... all that crap
[02:25] <styles`> ur on gentoo?
[02:25] <brownie17> dbzdeath: is it easy to just switch between gnome and one of the others with just a restart? or is there mass work to switch?
[02:26] <qt2> Cashel,  and i already tried having acpi disabled, no effect
[02:26] <Orby> ummm where would one find ATI X300 drivers for ubuntu ? ati dont seem to be of much help
[02:26] <styles`> my gentoo started to slow down for some reason so i just said hell with it and installed a rpm based distro
[02:26] <dbzdeath> brownie17: should be as easy as apt-get install xfce4 and then rebooting and in gdm(i assume your using) choose xfce as the session? i think
[02:26] <qt2> occasionally, instead of locking up, his monitor frequency goes out of range.
[02:26] <HappyFool> Orby: try the wiki instructions for ati
[02:26] <HappyFool> !tell Orby about ati
[02:26] <dbzdeath> removing gnome... there is a thread on the forums somewhere to do it
[02:26] <qt2> which he also cant recover from.
[02:26] <Orby> HappyFool: thanks :D
[02:26] <dbzdeath> !tell dbzdeath about ati
[02:27] <dbzdeath> hmm
[02:27] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: try this ;) http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ (ubotu web-interface)
[02:27] <brownie17> dbzdeath: maybe before i try another desktop enviroment i should actually become a "not complete rookie" at linux in general
[02:27] <styles`> emerge gnome
[02:27] <styles`> lol
[02:27] <styles`> ud be there for like 2 days
[02:27] <pho> knows anyone that problem that u have to reset the router until u get a new ip to be able to load webpages?
[02:28] <dbzdeath> brownie17: hehe well thats probably wise... unless you got kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[02:28] <brownie17> pho: you using a d-link?
[02:28] <styles`> does apt-get have a search function
[02:28] <HappyFool> styles`: use 'apt-cache search'
[02:28] <dbzdeath> styles`: apt-cache search package
[02:28] <dbzdeath> beat me to it
[02:28] <dbzdeath> haha
[02:28] <pho> brownie17: hmm... d-link ... router?
[02:28] <HappyFool> styles`: synaptic has a fairly useful search/browse feature
[02:28] <styles`> thanks
[02:28] <brownie17> so kubuntu is like a whole new cd? with KDE? but you can just apt-get XFCE? why is that?
[02:28] <styles`> HappyFool, im a command freak =P
[02:28] <styles`> coming from gentoo
[02:29] <apokryphos> brownie17: because there is no proper xfce team
[02:29] <brownie17> pho: d-link is a brand of modem's and router
[02:29] <HappyFool> brownie17: you can 'apt-get kubuntu-desktop' too. There's a limit to what can be fitted on one CD
[02:29] <qt2> i just noticed, his radeon isnt listed as supported on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[02:29] <dbzdeath> brownie17: well you can do apt-get kubuntu-desktop ? or is it kubuntu and it will install kubuntu
[02:29] <apokryphos> HappyFool: I think he's asking why there isn't a separate ubuntu+xfce cd
[02:29] <pho> brownie17: yes... i know... it is a siemens i think....
[02:29] <qt2> might that be a problem?
[02:29] <apokryphos> dbzdeath: you can get kubuntu ISOs and you can of course install kde from ubuntu
[02:29] <brownie17> pho: sorry, your better off asking someone else
[02:30] <coxc24> Can anyone help me with a ddclient problem?
[02:30] <dbzdeath> apokryphos: i know :) it was brownie17's question i was answering
[02:30] <brownie17> apokryphos: i only have 256, how big would KDE be to download? just through apt-get?
[02:30] <pho> brownie17: ok... thx....
[02:30] <apokryphos> brownie17: find out for yourself. Do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <brownie17> qt2: yes, i think so!
[02:30] <apokryphos> brownie17: it'll tell you how much it plans to get, and you can choose to cancel before that.
[02:31] <brownie17> apokryphos
[02:31] <dbzdeath> would be nice to run ubuntu instead
[02:31] <qt2> brownie17, eh?
[02:31] <Alex_BO> HI! i've a problem compiling a program: "C compiler cannot create executables".what program do i need?
[02:31] <apokryphos> brownie17: hm?
[02:31] <brownie17> it needs to download 114 meg
[02:31] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: apt-get install build-essentials
[02:32] <HappyFool> build-essential  (no s ;)
[02:32] <snoogert> hi, when i try to compile grub under amd64, i've got this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables".... can you help me?
[02:32] <apokryphos> dbzdeath: build-essential :)
[02:32] <dbzdeath> my bad
[02:32] <HappyFool> snoogert: you also need build-essential
[02:32] <Cashel> anyone familiar w/ glade? Wondering what the diff between glade-2 and glade-gnome-2 is.... one replaces the other...
[02:32] <HappyFool> it's on the cd, so it should easily be installable
[02:32] <dbzdeath> why not just apt-get install grub?
[02:32] <brownie17> gtg guys
[02:33] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, it doesn't work however
[02:33] <styles`> wonder why cant i find xfce
[02:33] <HappyFool> styles`: you probably need to add repositories
[02:33] <pho> knows anyone that problem that u have to reset the router until u get a new ip to be able to load webpages?
[02:33] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: apt-get install build-essential no s on the end
[02:33] <coxc24> Have you tried gcc for a compiler, it was recommened to me
[02:33] <dalamar> got the corect repos installed?
[02:33] <dbzdeath> yeah or that
[02:33] <HappyFool> !tell styles` about repositories
[02:34] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, sorry: i have installed build-essential without the "s"
[02:34] <styles`> thanks
[02:34] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've installed build-essential... but it's the same...
[02:34] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: ok and it still gives the same errror?
[02:34] <dbzdeath> *error
[02:34] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, yes
[02:34] <mushtaq> hi is there are software to grab a moving cursor i mean to convert mouse movement to flash or something else
[02:34] <mushtaq> ?
[02:34] <HappyFool> snoogert: can you paste the complete error log on the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:35] <dalamar> styles`, did you find BUM? really good for managing services
[02:35] <dbzdeath> hmmm Alex_BO type cc in a terminal and tell me what it says please
[02:35] <Alex_BO> cc: no input files
[02:35] <dbzdeath> yeah thats ok
[02:35] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO:  hmmthis is what program?
[02:36] <dbzdeath> *hmm this
[02:36] <styles`> dalamar, not yet, i didnt see it, i guess i will after adding the other repos
[02:36] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, wine, i'm tring to compile it
[02:36] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: is this a amd64 system?
[02:36] <dalamar> styles`, yeah should be in there, nice gui etc
[02:37] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, my system is amd64, but there isn't a package for my system
[02:37] <snoogert> HappyFool: do you need all the content of config.log?
[02:37] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: ahhh :) thats because wine won't work on amd64
[02:37] <HappyFool> snoogert: well, maybe just the relevant bits
[02:37] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, and how can i do?
[02:37] <Cashel> !tell cashel about gnuchess
[02:37] <HappyFool> snoogert: you have any guesses about what's wrong?
[02:38] <iveqy> hello, I wonder how to change charset to iso-8859-10 in console mode...
[02:38] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: if you can get a wine 32bit binary that might work or you will need a 32bit chroot(basically another mini ubuntu system inside your current one)
[02:38] <HappyFool> Cashel: try '/query ubotu' and then 'info gnuchess'
[02:38] <Cashel> hmmm anyone know a nice front end for gnuchess?
[02:38] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, well...i don't wanna install another ubuntu inside the mine
[02:39] <HappyFool> Cashel: maybe xboard?
[02:39] <ompaul> iveqy,  terminal set - character encoding - your character set
[02:39] <Cashel> xboard! thanks ...couldnt remember that much even, heh
[02:39] <iveqy> ompaul thx, but I don't have the iso-8859-10 on my system, do you know witch package to download?
[02:39] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: if you have the drive space it isn't a big deal... but in that case your best bet is to find a 32 bit binary of wine somewhere... a slackware package perhaps?
[02:40] <ompaul> Alex_BO, if you do not do that, you will not be able to get applications that only exist as 32 bit at this time to run on your machine
[02:40] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, because i figured out that there aren't programs like DVDShrink in Linux
[02:40] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok, i've do it
[02:40] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: yeah.. well if you have cedega... that should work
[02:40] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, and i read that the only way it's to emule them
[02:40] <reiki> I have downloaded what appear to be gnome themes. The one I am interested in is called Gnant. However I can't seem to find where Gnome is storing themes so I can put this directory there. Anyone have a clue for me? :)
[02:41] <dbzdeath> yup basically Alex_BO
[02:41] <dbzdeath> !tell Alex_BO about 32bit chroot
[02:41] <dbzdeath> might wanna look at that
[02:41] <dbzdeath> it isn't too hard
[02:41] <LaserLine> Hello people, I have a question please...
[02:41] <iveqy> ompaul "set character encoding iso-8859-10" doesn't work. "invalid option"
[02:41] <HappyFool> snoogert: stand-by
[02:41] <Gnonthgol> LaserLine: go ahead
[02:42] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, I've already read it
[02:42] <dalamar> I hope amd64 us better supported in the future for ubuntu, seems kind of shaky at the moment .. one of the reasons I didn't buy one when I upgraded recently
[02:42] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok
[02:42] <ompaul> iveqy, the acutal package  may be seen in  apt-cache search font  | grep iso
[02:42] <HappyFool> snoogert: hmm
[02:42] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, don't you know a program like DVD Shrink?
[02:42] <LaserLine> Gnonthgol - In gnome Session Manager -> Startup Programs --- what does the "order" column mean ?
[02:42] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: hmm well i can't be of much help ... if the ubuntu forums don't have a answer for you ... you can give the gentoo forums a shot .. i find lots of distro inspecific info there
[02:42] <Cashel> LaserLine, so ask :)
[02:42] <iveqy> ompaul np..
[02:42] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: not one that runs on linux... no
[02:43] <LaserLine> Cashel - I asked .. :)
[02:43] <HappyFool> i think you might need some sort of 32-bit libs for gcc
[02:43] <lsuactiafner> what /dev/ are there but sd and hd? i want to mount an ATA disk
[02:43] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, i have a win2k on virtual machine.i can run DVDShrink here
[02:43] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, do you think that's possible?
[02:43] <Cashel> I guess I'm lagging :)
[02:43] <HappyFool> snoogert: (oops) i think you might need some sort of 32-bit libs for gcc
[02:44] <Gnonthgol> LaserLine: I think it is the order of the programs to start
[02:44] <snoogert> HappyFool: do you know what are this libs?
[02:44] <dalamar> LaserLine, should be what order the programs are run in, some programs need others running before they are started etc
[02:44] <HappyFool> does anyone know what to install to get 32-bit gcc compatibility libs for amd64?
[02:44] <LaserLine> Gnonthgol - so the lower the number, the faster it get's loaded ?
[02:44] <Cashel> lsuactiafner, ATA is hd I believe..
[02:45] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: hmmm yes but i wouldn't recommend attempting to burn the iso in a vm... i have no idea if vmware can do that
[02:45] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've already lib32gcc1 installed...
[02:45] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: hmmm don't you just use -m32?
[02:45] <dalamar> dvd shrink rips dvds doesnt it?
[02:46] <dbzdeath> dalamar: yeah it also can re-encode them so they can be made small enough... say dvd9 to dvd5
[02:46] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, i know that dvdshrink can make iso or only VOB and AUDIO files.i can get them to linux and burn them in linux.what do you think about?
[02:46] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: sounds like a plan :)
[02:46] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1895
[02:46] <dalamar> dbzdeath, aha
[02:46] <dbzdeath> imo output to iso
[02:46] <dbzdeath> its easier
[02:46] <Gnonthgol> LaserLine: if a program got lower number then another it it going to be run before yes
[02:46] <HappyFool> snoogert: it *might* be lib32gcc1
[02:47] <ofer0> somebody here with a 64bit processor?
[02:47] <HappyFool> snoogert: but i'm not sure
[02:47] <LaserLine> Gnonthgol Thanks LD
[02:47] <LaserLine> LD= :D
[02:47] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: install ia32-libs i dunno if it will solve it... but its a good thing to have installed
[02:47] <lsuactiafner> ofer0 : yeh?
[02:47] <snoogert> HappyFool: yes. i've already lib32gcc1... but i doesn't work...
[02:47] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: this is the problem i was having earlier unfortunately
[02:47] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, well...that seems the only way... can i ask you a question?i'd like to make some backups; someone here had adviced me to mondo, but there isn't for amd64.can you advice me something else?
[02:48] <HappyFool> dbzdeath: not for me, for snoogert
[02:48] <Cashel> no bells and whistles to be sure, but no problems! soooo cool... (Can you tell I switched from suse? :P )
[02:48] <dbzdeath> i was trying to compile p7zip ... then i realised it tried to compile as a 32bit app and i just changed it to 64bit and viola
[02:48] <HappyFool> snoogert: sorry, it's hard for me to debug -- i don't have amd64 here
[02:48] <ofer0> lsuactiafner, please give me output of: "ls -al `which ls`"
[02:48] <dalamar> Cashel, i've noticed its kind of 'touchy' fot me though, doesn't like you doing other things while its running/downloading ;)
[02:48] <slibs> hi, can anyone remember what was the command i have to add in hl2 launch options in order to make it work?
[02:49] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: i don't know about backups... but looking into webmin *may* be of some help
[02:49] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok, don't worry... thanks....
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 90464 2005-03-18 15:23 /bin/ls
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> 851458de9e597defc95b0c7e66a85438  /bin/ls
[02:49] <ofer0> thank you very much!!
[02:49] <ofer0> :)
[02:49] <dbzdeath> snoogert: what program are you trying to compile?
[02:49] <Cashel> dalamar, I've been serfing the web fine while it does.... I've canceled / restarted its downloads to change whats on its list too.... it didnt mind.... tho I dont have high speed internet, that may change things...
[02:50] <dalamar> Cashel, I dont have a real fast computer so that might be my issue as well
[02:51] <reiki> how do I start file roller from terminal as sudo? sudo file-roller?
[02:51] <dbzdeath> yeah reiki
[02:51] <reiki> or would it be gksudo?
[02:51] <dbzdeath> hmmm
[02:51] <dbzdeath> gksudo to be safe
[02:52] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i try to compile grub
[02:52] <dbzdeath> snoogert: ... hmm... why do you want a 32bit grub?
[02:52] <snoogert> dbzdeath: no, i don't want a 32bit grub...
[02:53] <dbzdeath> snoogert: open up the makefile
[02:53] <dbzdeath> it should have -m32 somewhere?
[02:53] <snoogert> dbzdeath: just a moment...
[02:53] <HappyFool> the config.log shows -m32
[02:53] <darksatanic> Last time I heard anything about it, grub didn't build as a 64-bit binary.
[02:54] <dbzdeath> yeah HappyFool that shouldn't be happening
[02:54] <HappyFool> maybe it needs to be 32 bit (?). i've never compiled grub
[02:54] <darksatanic> AFAIK, it has to be built as 32-bit.
[02:55] <lsuactiafner> if you use -m32 in glibc of ubuntu it doesnt work as it should, you need gcc4
[02:55] <HappyFool> i suppose the other question would be why can't you use the grub from the install cd ?
[02:55] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i've checked the "Makefile.in" but non m32....
[02:55] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: ah-ha
[02:55] <dbzdeath> oh?
[02:56] <dazvid> Does anyone here run a creative audigy 2 card?
[02:56] <dbzdeath> snoogert: is there a reason why you can't use the ubuntu package?
[02:56] <pho> anyone knows howto make the internet connection run properly? its really not nice to have to reset the router after each reboot...
[02:56] <dbzdeath> pho: what do you mean exactly?
[02:57] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i've modified it, so i want recompile it...
[02:57] <dbzdeath> oh
[02:57] <dbzdeath> hmm
[02:57] <pho> dbzdeath: when i have rebooted ubuntu... my browser cant load webpages... but updating the system over the ubuntu servers is working....
[02:58] <pho> dbzdeath: messengers and irc clients dont have connection to the internet either....
[02:58] <lsuactiafner> pho : your browser might be trying to use a proxy that doesnt exist
[02:58] <thenuke> lsuactiafner: irc-clients.. messenger..
[02:58] <pho> dbzdeath: then i have to disconnect the connection by the router and reconnect....
[02:58] <HappyFool> snoogert: tried installing gcc-4.0 ?
[02:58] <HappyFool> snoogert: then 'CC=gcc-4.0 ./configure'
[02:58] <dbzdeath> pho: hmm can you ping web servers? like say google.com?
[02:59] <pho> dbzdeath: after a while it runs...
[02:59] <lsuactiafner> dhcp problems?
[02:59] <lsuactiafner> i dont know..
[02:59] <lsuactiafner> bbl working..
[02:59] <pho> dbzdeath: mostly not...
[02:59] <dbzdeath> sounds like dhcp
[02:59] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i've found the -m32 flag in configure.ac. can this help?
[02:59] <pho> dbzdeath: managed it once ... but he only could ping google.... =)
[02:59] <Tonar> Can i boot Ubuntu without the initial ramdisk?
[03:00] <dbzdeath> snoogert: hmm.... well i'm not sure if its a good idea to use it as a 64bit binary... but you can give it a shot
[03:00] <dbzdeath> Tonar: yes if you have the basic needed hardware compiled into the kernel
[03:00] <snoogert> HappyFool: but wirg gcc4 i'll got a pre 64bit executable?
[03:00] <pho> dbzdeath: there must be a solution... i read a lot about similar problems...
[03:01] <HappyFool> snoogert: according to lsuactiafner, -m32 needs gcc-4.0
[03:01] <ec18672> i am looking for a script file to install multimedia codecs and some players at once...
[03:01] <dbzdeath> pho: hmm what does your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[03:01] <HappyFool> snoogert: which is in agreement with the package description
[03:01] <dbzdeath> is it correct?
[03:01] <snoogert> dbzdeath: bur the original grub bin files are 32bit under amd64?
[03:01] <beekay> how can i play m4a files in music player?
[03:01] <pho> dbzdeath: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:01] <dbzdeath> snoogert: are they?
[03:01] <pho> dbzdeath: thats the ip of the router
[03:02] <dbzdeath> pho: is that the address of your router? if so try changing that to your isp's dns server or any dns server really
[03:02] <dbzdeath> yeah
[03:02] <ec18672> i am looking for a script file to install multimedia codecs and some players at once...
[03:02] <HappyFool> maybe the amd64 is in 32-bit mode on power-on (?)
[03:02] <dbzdeath> although you will need to turn off dhcp if it is on
[03:02] <beekay> how can i play m4a files in music player? or anything for that matter
[03:02] <snoogert> dbzdeath: the original grub files under amd64 are 32bit binaries?
[03:02] <dbzdeath> otherwise it won't survive a reboot without getting the settings from your router
[03:02] <beekay> mp4 etc
[03:03] <dbzdeath> snoogert: i don't know but if they are... then don't compile grub as 64bit
[03:03] <thrush_2> ec18672, wouldnt it be more fun to write it yourself?
[03:03] <HappyFool> !tell beekay about restricted
[03:03] <HappyFool> beekay: that'll get you started, at least; not sure if it supports all of those
[03:03] <pho> dbzdeath: where do i get to know my isp's dns server?
[03:03] <beekay> okay
[03:03] <beekay> thanks man
[03:03] <dbzdeath> pho: web page? perhaps it is in your router's config?
[03:04] <Tonar> why has the mplayer package no dvd support compiled in?
[03:04] <snoogert> dbzdeath: ok, i'll try to compile with gcc4 as says HappyFool
[03:04] <HappyFool> Tonar: legal reasons
[03:04] <dbzdeath> snoogert: yeah give that a shot .. i have no idea about gcc 4
[03:04] <HappyFool> Tonar: you can probably enable it following the restrictedformats wiki page instructions
[03:04] <ec18672> thrush, its my second intallation of ubuntu, at first inst'n i found a script.
[03:04] <HappyFool> !tell Tonar about restricted
[03:05] <HappyFool> snoogert: please let us know if it works
[03:05] <pho> dbzdeath: the routers says tehre is a primary and a secondary  DNS
[03:05] <dbzdeath> HappyFool: that bot is handy :)
[03:05] <HappyFool> the bot is super-cool. a bit cheeky sometimes, tho.
[03:05] <ec18672> thrush, do you know sth like that ?
[03:05] <dbzdeath> pho: yeah and those ip's you should place into /etc/resolv.conf like this nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx
[03:05] <dbzdeath> erm i missed the last octet
[03:06] <Tonar> but mplayer is able to read dvd without these libdvdcss libary.
[03:06] <pho> dbzdeath: both?
[03:06] <dbzdeath> Tonar: libdvdcss afaik is for dvd navigation support?
[03:06] <dbzdeath> pho: yes both on seperate lines though... so two nameserver entries
[03:06] <pho> dbzdeath: ok...
[03:06] <dbzdeath> but do that AFTER you reboot or turn off dhcp
[03:07] <ec18672> thrush_2, do you know sth like that ?
[03:07] <thrush_2> ec18672, you might be talking about a ubuntuaddon.zip file?  You should be able to google it but I would suggest looking in Ubuntu wiki and trying to go through it yourself
[03:07] <dbzdeath> Tonar: menu support
[03:07] <pho> dbzdeath: gonna reboot now... =)
[03:07] <dbzdeath> pho: good luck
[03:07] <kamikazesponge> how do i make a user a member of a group?
[03:08] <dalamar> kamikazesponge, in gnome?
[03:08] <dbzdeath> kamikazesponge: usermod -G group1,group2 username
[03:08] <HappyFool> Tonar: only unencrypted dvds, i thought?
[03:08] <ec18672> google'd it dun worry, but i couldnt find i was lookin for, i took the address from thsi ubuntu chat help chan.
[03:08] <dbzdeath> replace group1,group2 with the groups you want them in
[03:08] <Tonar> HappyFool: no not really
[03:08] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: so i was close.. i did usermod <user> -G group
[03:08] <kamikazesponge> thx
[03:08] <dbzdeath> yeah wrong way round
[03:08] <ec18672> trush_2,google'd it dun worry, but i couldnt find i was lookin for, i took the address from thsi ubuntu chat help chan.
[03:08] <Tonar> HappyFool: a uncrippled compiled mplayer is able to play alot more than the mplayer ubuntu delivers
[03:08] <dbzdeath> kamikazesponge: keep in mind that it doesn't append the group
[03:08] <dbzdeath> it replaces it
[03:08] <HappyFool> Tonar: in that case it has a decss capability, which is presumably disabled in ubuntu for legal reasons
[03:09] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: oops >.<
[03:09] <Tonar> HappyFool: also wmv?
[03:09] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've installed gcc4, then CC=gcc-4.0, then ./configure... but nothing...
[03:09] <Bateau_> hey! i get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1896 when i try to update laptop-mode-tools in synaptic. and i get this error trying to do dist-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1897 . can anyone help me?
[03:09] <HappyFool> Tonar: you need w32codecs for wmv, afaik
[03:09] <HappyFool> snoogert: nothing as in it still breaks?
[03:09] <Tonar> HappyFool: ah thx
[03:09] <HappyFool> snoogert: same error?
[03:09] <coxc24> I am trying to install mono pod and get the error "checking for mono >= 1.1.6... Package mono was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[03:09] <coxc24> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `mono.pc'
[03:09] <coxc24> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[03:09] <coxc24> No package 'mono' found
[03:09] <coxc24> " when I use the /.configure command. Can anyone help me please?
[03:09] <thrush_2> ec18672, if its a specific script your looking for I probably cant help.  But they are very easy to write and a good thing to learn
[03:09] <dbzdeath> kamikazesponge: if you want the user to have sudo access make sure they are in the sudo group..
[03:10] <snoogert> HappyFool: yes same error...
[03:10] <HappyFool> snoogert: hrm
[03:10] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: that one was admin i believe, that's the group i wanted to add it to
[03:10] <dbzdeath> ah
[03:10] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: but can you list groups of a user too?
[03:10] <dbzdeath> um kamikazesponge you can do cat /etc/group | grep username
[03:11] <ec18672> trush_2,you r right, i am also tryin to learn, i wasted to much time, so i just want to install.
[03:11] <kamikazesponge> dbzdeath: thx
[03:12] <slibs> how do i make shorcut in menu for warcraft 3 an example? (runs trought cedega, so how should i set the command? /home/anacron/warcraft/cedega Frozen Throne.exe wont' work)
[03:12] <Cashel> ok im out.. good night folks...
[03:12] <thrush_2> ec18672, sorry not more help if you feel like doing it yourself everything should be at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:12] <ec18672> trush_2,thanx
[03:13] <Tonar> My boot messages have alot of warnings errors etc? is this normal?
[03:13] <Bateau_> Help----> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1898
[03:13] <slibs> Tonar: i don't get any errors
[03:14] <Tonar> i paste the on the pastepage
[03:14] <dalamar> anyone here use the free version of cedega? does it support much or is it better to get a subscription? I'm not looking to run any cutting-edge games
[03:15] <fblade1987> how can i run .bin files ? what chmod do i have to do?
[03:15] <slibs> dalamar: of course you can try free one first, then if it doesn't work for you, then get the "real one"
[03:15] <mushtaq> hi i am trying to compile vnc2swf when i do configure it stops with following error
[03:15] <mushtaq>  error: *** ming missing - please install first or check config.log
[03:16] <dalamar> slibs, do you know where yo find it? can you d/l off the transgaming website?
[03:16] <slibs> dalamar: the cvs?
[03:16] <mushtaq> when i check config.log it shows
[03:16] <Bateau_> Help please :( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1898
[03:16] <lJlolel> fblade1987, you need to use the -x flag, or a +1
[03:16] <HappyFool> fblade1987: try 'sh filename.bin' or 'chmod a+x filename.bin; ./filename.bin'
[03:17] <mushtaq> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lming
[03:17] <slibs> dalamar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega?highlight=%28cedega%29 <- all you need
[03:18] <ilba7r> !realplayer
[03:18] <ubotu> it has been said that realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:18] <slibs> but anyway can someone help me with my question, how to make shortcut so that it runs games, like if i want to run warcraft with cedega, what's the "command" for running that?
[03:19] <HappyFool> Bateau_: does 'apt-get remove laptop-mode-tools' help ?
[03:20] <dalamar> Bateau_, is your nick from GITS?
[03:20] <Bateau_> dalamar: indeed it is :) except they changed it :P
[03:21] <snoogert> HappyFool: ok, now i've compiled it...
[03:21] <lJlolel> slibs, dont know about cedega, but wine is, wine programname.exe
[03:21] <HappyFool> snoogert: how?
[03:21] <dalamar> Bateau_, that's cool, i loved the movie and stand-alone complex is pretty cool too heh ;)
[03:21] <snoogert> HappyFool: i've run CC=gcc-4.0; export CC; ./configure  i've forgot "export"
[03:21] <Bateau_> dalamar: yupp :D i love it to :D
[03:22] <Tonar> My Errors/Warning: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1899
[03:22] <HappyFool> snoogert: 'CC=gcc-4.0 ./configure' should work (no ; anywhere), but OK
[03:22] <snoogert> HappyFool: thanks for support!
[03:22] <HappyFool> snoogert: np. good luck with your custom grub (eek!)
[03:22] <mushtaq> exit
[03:22] <snoogert> HappyFool: :-)
[03:23] <Bateau_> HappyFool: i did what you said. and now it is installing allot of stuff! o.0
[03:23] <snoogert> dbzdeath: now all work. thanks also to you!
[03:24] <dbzdeath> snoogert: gcc 4 works?
[03:24] <HappyFool> Bateau_: dist-upgrading to breezy?
[03:24] <snoogert> dbzdeath: yes. i've run CC=gcc-4.0; export CC; ./configure  i've forgot "export"
[03:25] <Bateau_> HappyFool: huh? im not doing that now... i only removed laptop-mode-tools
[03:25] <Bateau_> now its a total takeoff. its installing and setting up all bunch of things
[03:25] <dbzdeath> snoogert: guess i'll keep that in mind :)
[03:26] <Bateau_> ah, there it stopped
[03:26] <dbzdeath> shouldn't it be export CC=gcc-4.0;./configure
[03:26] <Bateau_> hmm, brb
[03:26] <HappyFool> Bateau_: hmm. it probably remembered what it was trying to do before, but i'm not helluva sure how apt works
[03:27] <snoogert> dbzdeath: i also :)
[03:27] <Tonar> mmh ok i will install mplayer to ~/. Has anybody an idea how to reconfigure the mplayer plugin to work with my homemade mplayer? Anyone an idea with my errors above?
[03:27] <Bateau_> HappyFool: well, ill try a reboot. se what happens :) if im not back... im doing a reinstall :P
[03:27] <HappyFool> heh
[03:28] <thrush_2> Bateau_, lastime i tried to remove laptop someting or other it wanted to remove gnome...
[03:29] <zblach> hi
[03:30] <zblach> i found a script, a while ago, that detects other partitions i have on my computer. since then i've had to reinstall. any idea where i can find this script again?
[03:30] <mcphail> zblach: try fdisk
[03:30] <HappyFool> !windowsdrives
[03:30] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[03:31] <zblach> thanks fool
[03:31] <HappyFool> if that bot asks me if i'm on ritalin one more time, i'm going to blow a fuse
[03:31] <slibs> zblach: it's called winmac_fstab right?, google that
[03:32] <slibs> oh too late :<
[03:33] <zblach> slibs, thanks anyways
[03:33] <zblach> now, problem 2
[03:33] <zblach> i'm using an ATI graphics card, and it should be pretty fast, but it isn't
[03:33] <HappyFool> !ati
[03:33] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:33] <zblach> eheh...
[03:35] <sakamoto_> omg ... ubuntu is so great
[03:35] <sakamoto_> is someone fast used to it
[03:36] <supernix> Hi
[03:36] <sakamoto_> when he used only microshit for several years
[03:36] <sakamoto_> hi supernix
[03:36] <supernix> can someone help me with a printer problem ?
[03:36] <supernix> Hi
[03:36] <supernix> :D
[03:36] <sakamoto_> definately not me
[03:36] <supernix> I keep getting my text on the left side of the page cut off
[03:36] <sakamoto_> im still in the O_o period
[03:36] <supernix> :D
[03:36] <zblach> supernix, wrong driver perhaps?
[03:36] <sakamoto_> first time i booted ubuntu
[03:36] <sakamoto_> so great
[03:37] <zblach> sakamoto_, agreed. but i'm still in the 0_0;; phase
[03:37] <sakamoto_> dual boot with grub works perfect
[03:37] <supernix> nah I checked the driver to use before I ever plugged it in
[03:37] <sakamoto_> lol
[03:37] <supernix> Should I use customer margins zblach  ?
[03:38] <zblach> supernix, probably not. at work we have that problem 0.1% of the time anyways, correct drivers and all. it could be almost anything
[03:38] <zblach> alright! problem #3. autodetecting network printers
[03:39] <supernix> hmmm ok thanks for your help zblach definately appreciated
[03:39] <twoSharp> i get an error while installing cdemu on ubuntu hoary: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'.  Stop." what does this?
[03:39] <zblach> supernix, sorry i couldn't help more
[03:39] <supernix> LOL I can't even get the ones connected to the PC to work 100% so I surely wont be much help
[03:40] <kanrinin> hey should I install the mozilla-firefox package or just firefox?  Are they the same?  Firefox won't start, so I'm reinstalling.
[03:41] <reiki> the mozilla-firefox package IS firefox
[03:41] <lJlolel> breezy firefox is still 1.0.6?
[03:41] <zblach> !printing
[03:41] <ubotu> zblach: Are you on ritalin?
[03:41] <zblach> !yes ^_^
[03:41] <ubotu> I don't know, zblach
[03:41] <zblach> !print
[03:41] <ubotu> zblach: No idea
[03:41] <MrBear> hi people
[03:41] <zblach> howdy
[03:42] <theeil> how do i make mutt read messages i get with fetchmail?
[03:42] <MrBear> how are ya all
[03:42] <zblach> you can't teach that old dog new tricks
[03:42] <kanrinin> thanks reiki...what about the gnome support package?
[03:42] <zblach> bear, we're okay
[03:42] <MrBear> new to linux a friend directed me here
[03:43] <zblach> same
[03:43] <reiki> kanrinin: I just did sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox and it all worked
[03:43] <MrBear> getting 5.04 right now
[03:44] <HappyFool> theeil: i think it's more a question of setting up fetchmail than setting up mutt
[03:44] <reiki> kanrinin: And I'm in a pretty much default Ubuntu 5.04 install. So ... should be pretty easy :)
[03:44] <Gnonthgol> MrBear: welcome to the world where evrything is possible
[03:44] <MrBear> thanks
[03:44] <kanrinin> gotcha.  I'm still getting used to the sudo apt-get stuff.  I'm a former fedora core user.
[03:44] <reiki> except getting your microphone to work! :)
[03:44] <kanrinin> *the entire room hisses* :-)
[03:45] <theeil> HappyFool: sure, i can't even find where fetchmail puts the messages
[03:45] <HappyFool> theeil: fetchmail should drop your mail in /var/spool/mail/<youruser>, and mutt should find it there
[03:45] <MrBear> I am a complete novice to linux
[03:45] <MrBear> my friend told me to get ubuntu
[03:45] <dalamar> i just got a cedega subscription, im pumped! wh00.
[03:45] <MrBear> what is cedega
[03:45] <HappyFool> theeil: are you familiar with mutt? you might find something like evolution a bit easier
[03:46] <theeil> HappyFool: no, i can use it just fine
[03:46] <reiki> MrBear: it's not HARD... it's just DIFFERENT if you're used to Windows operating systems. So dive in and don't be afraid to ask questions. Lots of folks here to help.
[03:46] <HappyFool> theeil: i'm using fetchmail here, though i set it up months ago
[03:46] <dalamar> MrBear, nifty program that lets you play windows games real well on linux
[03:46] <dalamar> *some* games I should say
[03:47] <theeil> HappyFool: fetchmail works, but the messages are not in mutt
[03:47] <HappyFool> theeil: is there anything in /var/spool/mail ?
[03:47] <theeil> HappyFool: my username is there but the file is empty
[03:47] <MrBear> what you need to pay a program to play games you already for sigh
[03:48] <MrBear> thanks reiki :)
[03:48] <MrBear> well I am sick of thw hole windows thing
[03:48] <theeil> HappyFool: i wonder if i set something that just looks at the messages
[03:48] <HappyFool> theeil: hmm. have you received any mail?
[03:48] <MrBear> only thing I will miss is my games
[03:48] <HappyFool> theeil: try using 'mail' to send yourself mail -- you should see the file become non-zero in size
[03:48] <theeil> HappyFool: i typed fetchmail and it showed some mail on it's way in
[03:49] <twoSharp> can anyone point me in a direction of making cdemu install properly? i just get this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'. Stop." even if i have installed the kernel-source.. one thing i have noticed is that "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" doesn't exist even after installling the kernel-source..
[03:49] <arture> hi, i've just installed, and my serial mouse isn't working. Any ideas how to find the error? gpm has already been set up new, but i'm not sure if I've done it right.
[03:49] <HappyFool> theeil: hmm
[03:49] <theeil> HappyFool: Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 1
[03:49] <HappyFool> theeil: ah-ha
[03:49] <MrBear> I just hope my hardware is supported
[03:49] <HappyFool> theeil: have you setup postfix?
[03:49] <theeil> HappyFool: no, do i need that, how do i do that?
[03:50] <MrBear> I have a razer diamondback and a zboard
[03:50] <HappyFool> theeil: i think there's quite a neat wiki page for this.. just a sec
[03:50] <Tonar> just setup postfix *lol*
[03:50] <Gnonthgol> MrBear: if the install/live cd works fine the hardware is suported
[03:50] <MrBear> my AIW should work fine right?
[03:51] <HappyFool> theeil: i based my setup on this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupEmailHowto
[03:51] <HappyFool> theeil: look at section 3 (on postfix)
[03:51] <dalamar> !nvidia
[03:51] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:51] <lJlolel> yea, i moved to postfix
[03:51] <HappyFool> Tonar: better than 'just setup sendmail'
[03:52] <HappyFool> theeil: that page is a bit outdated, but should get you started
[03:54] <theeil> HappyFool: hmn, to be removed: ssmtp
[03:54] <MrBear> darn I wont be able to use my tv tuner
[03:54] <mxpxpod> is there a reason why in breezy I wouldn't have /dev/inotify?
[03:55] <HappyFool> theeil: what's that?
[03:55] <theeil> HappyFool: postfix was not installed
[03:55] <HappyFool> theeil: oh?
[03:55] <HappyFool> theeil: i thought it was installed by default. are you running hoary?
[03:55] <MrBear> so what is linux like anyway
[03:56] <theeil> HappyFool: yes
[03:56] <Kyral> Anything you want it to be
[03:56] <theeil> HappyFool: ssmtp must have uninstalled
[03:56] <MrBear> I feel like I am in the Matrix
[03:56] <Kyral> No thats Windows :P
[03:56] <MrBear> lol
[03:56] <arture> what should the sample rate for a mouse be?
[03:57] <HappyFool> theeil: postfix is a dependent of ubuntu-base, so it *should* have been installed
[03:57] <theeil> HappyFool:  SMTP Relay host: smtp.messagingengine.com, what's this server?
[03:57] <HappyFool> theeil: presumably your isp's smtp server
[03:57] <selinium> Hi all, anyone here used to compiling from source?
[03:57] <MrBear> yes 2 minutes done
[03:58] <zblach> is there any way to auto-detect network printers?
[03:58] <selinium> Mr Bear: was that aimed at me?
[03:58] <Kyral> selinium, I know it
[03:58] <SuperID> I want to run a script at startup.  Do I just need to add a shell script that runs in /etc/rc5.d ?   There's nothing magical about those scripts are there?  that is, do they have to interface with the caller?
[03:58] <HappyFool> bbiab
[03:58] <Kyral> ./configure && make && sudo make install :D
[03:59] <MrBear> oh I am downloading it now
[04:00] <MrBear> getting 339kb/s on cable which is good
[04:00] <selinium> Kyral: Yes I 'know' how to do it, just every package apart from the first one I did seems to be problematic. I tried to compile gdam from source. And it couldn't then the next on, then the next one. Is this common?
[04:00] <MrBear> another reason I am getting this is cause I got a copy of XP and it might go AWOL anytime soon
[04:01] <Kyral> selinium, welcome to dependacy hell :D
[04:01] <nariman> can someone help me update my gaim to the latest version????
[04:02] <nariman> hello???
[04:02] <nariman> is some one alive?
[04:02] <MrBear> I am
[04:02] <selinium> Kyral: lol, Even after completing all the deps, I still had errors... Also one package asked for a dependant not found on the repos, is that normal?
[04:02] <nariman> well, can u help me?
[04:02] <Kyral> IIRC, GAIM 1.5.0 is only in Breezy
[04:02] <MrBear> i think I am anyway
[04:02] <MrBear> no I am new like you
[04:02] <nariman> haha :)
[04:02] <Kyral> and it doesn't look like a Backport is going to come soon
[04:03] <Kyral> IIRC, jdong said something about the Backport being "difficult"
[04:03] <MrBear> I am glad I got some blank cds left
[04:03] <theeil> HappyFool: ok, local mail works now
[04:04] <Kyral> selinium, sometimes :D
[04:04] <MrBear> cool there is a Kubuntu
[04:05] <robert-in-au> i hade problems with it though i would just apt-get kde
[04:05] <robert-in-au> *had
[04:05] <MrBear> what is the dif between gnome and kde
[04:05] <Kyral> style, and a holy war
[04:05] <nariman> hehe :)
[04:05] <robert-in-au> ill find some screen-shots
[04:06] <nariman> yeah
[04:06] <Kyral> Basically, don't bring up KDE vs. GNOME here :P
[04:06] <nariman> long live KDE!!!
[04:06] <MrBear> I see
[04:06] <nariman> NO I MEAN GNOME!!!:D
[04:06] <apokryphos> MrBear: different DEs :)
[04:06] <pirast> Is bugzilla for feature request too?
[04:06] <Kyral> GNOME > ALL
[04:06] <apokryphos> MrBear: kde uses the Qt-toolkit and its base is C++; GNOME uses GTK
[04:06] <selinium> GNOME > kde
[04:07] <MrBear> kde looks like more like windows so I will use gnome
[04:07] <apokryphos> Alright now, let's not make useless comments of "which one is better".
[04:07] <selinium> MrBear: As good a reaqson as any!
[04:07] <apokryphos> MrBear: of course it depends on how you customize it
[04:07] <theeil> selinium: cuz there is no real point to either one
[04:07] <MrBear> I play WoW so just the name Gnome sounds good
[04:07] <selinium> lol
[04:08] <robert-in-au> kde : http://www.kde.org/screenshots/
[04:08] <cheesie> hi can someone help me, im downloading java for ubuntu linux, should i get the linux rpm or normal one?
[04:08] <apokryphos> !screenshots
[04:08] <ubotu> For Screenshots see http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=2 and http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=3
[04:08] <apokryphos> there's ubuntu screenshots there of both
[04:08] <robert-in-au> gnome : http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/screenshots/
[04:08] <Kyral> ubotu tell cheesie about java
[04:08] <MrBear> after those screenshots Gnome it is
[04:08] <pirast> ubotu tell cheesie about java
[04:08] <selinium> what is a decent gnome menu app?
[04:08] <pirast> damn
[04:08] <Kyral> "menu app"?
[04:09] <apokryphos> MrBear: errr, you looked through them both already?
[04:09] <theeil> how about xfce4, fluxbox and the 100s of others
[04:09] <apokryphos> selinium: smeg
[04:09] <robert-in-au> for java there is a .deb repository find it at breakmyubuntu
[04:09] <MrBear> yes
[04:09] <candlelight> cheesie, search for java in ubuntu wiki, i just installed a jdk 1.5 update 4
[04:09] <apokryphos> yes, I doubt that somehow.
[04:09] <selinium> apokryphos: I assume that is an app not a curse! :)
[04:09] <robert-in-au> fluxbox is cool too
[04:09] <Kyral> Oh, before you ask, you CAN mix KDE and GNOME apps :P
[04:09] <MrBear> those require a brain which I dont have
[04:09] <icewt> what's the situation with backports? it hasn't been updated for a while, has it?
[04:10] <apokryphos> selinium: I don't know; people here speak of it like its God's gift to the Open Source world
[04:10] <selinium> apokryphos: lol I will check it out, thanks
[04:10] <apokryphos> Those GNOME screenshots are using different themes etc, not the defaults :/
[04:11] <apokryphos> selinium: pretty darn odd, considering, *it's just a menu editor*
[04:11] <dodder> Anyone mind helping me fixing the connection between php-apache2 to mysql on my ubuntu system. ?
[04:11] <twoSharp> can anyone point me in a direction of making cdemu install properly? i just get this error: "make: *** No rule to make target `cdemu.ko', needed by `modules'. Stop." even if i have installed the kernel-source.. one thing i have noticed is that "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" doesn't exist even after installling the kernel-source..
[04:12] <dodder> it just seems i need the mysql.so file... i just don't know where to get it, where to put it, or where to load it... i might be wrong..
[04:12] <selinium> apokryphos: I rarely use the menus myself, but the girlfriend on the other hand...
[04:12] <HappyFool> twoSharp: install linux-headers-386
[04:12] <dalamar> I installed the nvidia drivers according to the wiki and though I get the splashscreen and everything I only get 250 fps on average, I only have a 32 meg card but still this is wierd and trying to install cedega it says no 3d acceleration supported, anyone know whats up?
[04:12] <apokryphos> theeil: what, and use no non-gnome apps?
[04:13] <HappyFool> dalamar: does 'glxinfo |grep direct' give 'Yes' ?
[04:13] <theeil> apokryphos: no, i mean that i do use many of the built in things though
[04:13] <dodder> anyone?
[04:13] <dalamar> HappyFool, checking one sec
[04:13] <HappyFool> dodder: have you looked at the lamp page on the wiki?
[04:13] <candlelight> dalamar, just curious how to check the # of fps?
[04:13] <HappyFool> !lamp
[04:13] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:14] <dalamar> candlelight, run glxgears in a terminal
[04:14] <dalamar> HappyFool, it says 'yes'?
[04:14] <dodder> well can't i just use the programs already pre-installed with the basic installation ?
[04:15] <HappyFool> dalamar: hmm. sounds like you have opengl rendering to me
[04:16] <HappyFool> dalamar: i get 845 fps from glxgears (but i guess above a certain point that becomes meaningless?)
[04:16] <HappyFool> dodder: mysql is not included in the default install, i don't think
[04:16] <HappyFool> dodder: nor is apache2
[04:16] <dalamar> HappyFool, yeah, it says 'okay' on the cedega install anout open gl rendering, yet 'failed' on 3d acceleration? .. it is only a 32 meg card also
[04:16] <HappyFool> dalamar: hmm. sorry, i'm not sure. never used cedega
[04:17] <HappyFool> dalamar: tried #cedega ?
[04:17] <grill> hello everyone
[04:17] <dodder> HappyFool yes mysql and apache2 is included, and i it is installed.. i removed the ; from the php.ini file where im loading the mysql.so file... but that doesn't change anything...
[04:18] <dalamar> HappyFool, trying there as we speak, though its not very active ;/
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> hi guys ... seems like i got some gpg key errors for breezy when i do apt-get update
[04:18] <theeil> what's the gnome panel mail thing called?
[04:18] <HappyFool> dodder: please read the LAMP page on the wiki; it will probably help you more than i can
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> where can i find the keys ?
[04:18] <candlelight> dalamar, mine is 32mb card, on 1st run, 285~376 fps, 2nd run 210~375 fps, 3rd run all over 320 fps
[04:18] <dodder> HappyFool but that is what it says... to remove that line, and then just restart apache...
[04:18] <dodder> HappyFool, just tried that again... still nothing... :/
[04:19] <HappyFool> dodder: what isn't working?
[04:19] <MrBear> will I be able to use yahoo aim and msn on ubuntu
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> MrBear, one word ... GAIM!
[04:19] <dodder> HappyFool when trying to run phpmyadmin i just get this error: cannot load mysql extension;
[04:19] <Myrtti> wickedpuppy: bitlbee
[04:19] <MrBear> alright
[04:20] <HappyFool> dodder: phpmyadmin is a command-line tool?
[04:20] <Myrtti> no
[04:20] <Myrtti> browser
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> nope .. its a web based mysql administration
[04:20] <Myrtti> it's a webpage, basically
[04:20] <MrBear> right now I am afraid the install will not work
[04:20] <dodder> HappyFool, no it's not, it's a collection of php scripts, making it easy to edit your mysql tabels, and stuff :)
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> dodder, have you installed mysql extension for apache2 ?
[04:20] <sakamoto_> any drivers for my onboard vga
[04:20] <sakamoto_> ?
[04:21] <dodder> wickedpuppy, mom.
[04:21] <sakamoto_> its msi k8m-neov
[04:21] <dodder> wickedpuppy, i instaleld libapache2-mod-auth-mysql yep.
[04:22] <zblach> hi
[04:22] <sakamoto_> hi
[04:22] <cheesie> ubotu tell cheesie about java
[04:22] <zblach> can anyone help me with this error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb:  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[04:22] <zblach> cheesie, just go !java
[04:23] <dodder> wickedpuppy, i've been looking for a php-mysql lib, but it's not default on the synaptic.
[04:23] <bina> xmms
[04:23] <bina> sorry :) wrong box
[04:23] <Gnonthgol> cheesie: "/msg ubotu java"
[04:24] <cheesie> its k that worked
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> dodder, you got libapache2-mod-php4 ?
[04:24] <MrBear> bbl
[04:25] <dodder> wickedpuppy, yep already been installed.
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> then your phpmyadmin should work
[04:25] <dodder> wickedpuppy, that what i said to myself, too :)
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:26] <dodder> heh
[04:26] <zblach> nvm, solved my error
[04:26] <dodder> wickedpuppy, may i pm you, with an url ?
[04:27] <Paradoxx> morning all
[04:27] <Paradoxx> can some1 help me with a prob
[04:28] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: only if you tell us what the problem is
[04:29] <sakamoto_> ok ... any linux drivers for my onboard vga
[04:29] <sakamoto_> ?
[04:29] <nano-> Ubuntu recognizes 'SAMSUNG ' 'DVD-ROM SD-616T ' as a CDROM while it infact is a CDRW.
[04:29] <sakamoto_> the mobi is MSI K8M Neo-V
[04:29] <sakamoto_> thats with VIA chipset
[04:30] <NoHope> hello all
[04:30] <sakamoto_> hi
[04:30] <Gnonthgol> hi
[04:30] <sakamoto_> omg ubuntu is way better than i thought
[04:31] <Aerol> hello
[04:31] <Paradoxx> what is the command to change the ownership for all the files in a folder, so i can read em etc?
[04:31] <sakamoto_> are all distros that nice to work with?
[04:31] <sakamoto_> you have to be root
[04:31] <twibbler> Paradox: chown <owner> <filename>
[04:31] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: chmod
[04:31] <DJWillis> Paradoxx: chmod
[04:32] <DJWillis> Doh! ;-)
[04:32] <HappyFool> Paradoxx: which folder are you wanting to fiddle with?
[04:32] <Paradoxx> there are several files in the folder
[04:32] <thrush_2> Paradoxx, chmod -R
[04:32] <Aerol> sby. pls, give me a list of working repos, or a sources.list, "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories", doesnt works anymore
[04:32] <Paradoxx> a folder i copied from a NTFS partition
[04:32] <HappyFool> to change ownership, use chown, to change permissions use chmod
[04:32] <twibbler> Paradox: chmod changes permissions ... chown changes owner and chgrp changes group ...
[04:32] <HappyFool> !teel Aerol about repos
[04:32] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, HappyFool
[04:32] <Paradoxx> whats the diff?
[04:32] <HappyFool> !tell Aerol about repos
[04:33] <twibbler> Paradoxx: a lot ......
[04:33] <NoHope> hey, how update an specific app?
[04:33] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: linux just got read drivers for ntfs
[04:33] <Aerol> great
[04:33] <HappyFool> 'just got' ? ;)
[04:33] <Paradoxx> Gnonthgol: i kno, i copied the files from a NTFS partition, to my ext3 partition, so i would work with em etc..
[04:33] <DJWillis> Question, where can I find a torrent for the latest packaged build of Breazey? Want to see if some packages have made it into Breazy there are absent/broke in horty.
[04:33] <twibbler> Paradoxx: what are you trying to access ...?...
[04:34] <Paradoxx> i copied my  "My Documents" folder from my W$ partition
[04:34] <Paradoxx> can't do anything with it though
[04:34] <HappyFool> NoHope: you can use synaptic to keep all installed applications up to date (within hoary)
[04:34] <twibbler> I see ... ok you want to access the files ...
[04:34] <Gnonthgol> Paradoxx: the best thing if you are using windows and linux together is to use fat32
[04:34] <NoHope> HappyFool, is it necessary some special configuration?
[04:34] <HappyFool> NoHope: you need to add the network repositories
[04:35] <HappyFool> !tell NoHope about repos
[04:35] <Paradoxx> right now, the owner of the folders is root
[04:35] <Paradoxx> so i want to b able to access them from my normal user
[04:36] <theeil> Paradoxx: sudo chown Paradoxx My*Documents
[04:36] <HappyFool> Paradoxx: something like 'sudo chown -R paradox thefolder/' may be what you want. But you should only change things in your home directory (/home/paradox, or whatever it may be)
[04:36] <cheesie> !sources
[04:36] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:36] <Paradoxx> yep
[04:36] <twibbler> Paradox:: login into terminal as root .... and do the following commands.. or as HappyFool says ...
[04:37] <twibbler> Paradoxx: after doing the chown also do the chgrp -R userid direc
[04:37] <grill> where can i find a list of web cams that work in ubuntu?
[04:39] <Paradoxx> kk
[04:39] <Paradoxx> thx guys, those things worked like a charm
[04:39] <Paradoxx> :D
[04:39] <NoHope> hey, do you know if firefox 1.5 beta will be available in some repos?
[04:39] <Paradoxx> i gotta go eat breakfast..
[04:39] <Paradoxx> talk to youall later
[04:39] <cheesie> Someone help me
[04:39] <cheesie> how do i edit the sources.list file
[04:40] <cheesie> sudo gedit?
[04:40] <twibbler> at 3.40pm.....
[04:40] <HappyFool> cheesie: maybe 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:40] <NoHope> cheesie, became root and [pico sources.list]
[04:40] <cheesie> kk happy
[04:40] <NoHope> cheesie, or use vim, gvim, gedit...
[04:40] <Gnonthgol> cheesie: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:40] <NoHope> s/became/become
[04:40] <cheesie> thanks ppl
[04:41] <NoHope> (my bad english...)
[04:41] <cheesie> how do i make it get it from network instead of the cd?
[04:41] <cheesie> comment out the top line?
[04:41] <twibbler> cheesie: can do all this from synaptic ...
[04:41] <cheesie> how
[04:42] <cheesie> !java
[04:42] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:42] <grill> cheesie, in settings i think it was
[04:43] <twibbler> chessie: settings ... repositories ... allows you to add and remove ... save having to do it all manually ...
[04:43] <cheesie> ive addd the respository hoary hedegot
[04:43] <cheesie> but still cant fine sun -j2
[04:43] <cheesie> for java
[04:43] <dalamar> the wiki works if you have all the repos installed, just did it last night
[04:43] <NoHope> hey, when will gnome 2.12 be released?
[04:44] <NoHope> sep 7?
[04:44] <twibbler> chessie: sorry have to go with the wiki ubotu said ... dont use java .... (prefer perl)...
[04:45] <DJWillis> Does anybody know if the MADWiFi package in Brezzey is more recent then the ancient one in Horty?
[04:46] <apokryphos> DJWillis: you can find out easily by yourself -- http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <spola> where do i find esdsp?
[04:48] <DJWillis> apokryphos: problem is I have no idea what the package is called (it's not madwifi for sure) and it's in the base distro so I have never quiter figured out what deb it came from.
[04:49] <apokryphos> DJWillis: wondering why you called it a package then :P. Nevermind; what exactly does it provide?
[04:50] <ompaul> on thise little box: apt-cache search editor | wc :: result::    489    3953   25880 <-- there is more than one way to edit a file :)
[04:52] <DJWillis> apokryphos: if it's in Ubuntu it's fair to say it came from a DEB (well I would assume as much), it's a WiFi kernal mode driver for one WiFi chipset, ahhh, found it, it's deep inside the linux-restricted-modules package, hmm, now to see what Brezzy has.
[04:52] <DJWillis> apokryphos: still, thanks for the link, I had forgot about that site, VERY handy.
[04:53] <freshmint> hi. does the ubuntu live cd support ntfs?
[04:53] <disasm> freshmint: read-onlhy
[04:53] <freshmint> dieman, thx. that's all i need ;-)
[04:55] <vader1102> cafuego, you here or busy?
[04:56] <dalamar> small xchat question, is there a way to have to channels on your main xchat screen ie like mirc? the cascade or tile or whatever its called?
[04:58] <DJWillis> dalamar: not AFAIK, it's not an MDI app in that sense, you can have many servers in 'tabs' on the top or bottom, I do that and it works very well.
[04:58] <brenner> dalamar: #xchat is great!
[04:59] <dalamar> k thanks for the info
[05:01] <vader1102> ha! got it to auto join lol
[05:02] <Evenfall> is there a package with kernel source for ubuntu 5.04? or I have to download "the real kernel source"?
[05:03] <brenner> vader1102: how'd you do it? :)
[05:03] <lonewolff> Evenfall: apt-cache search linux-source
[05:03] <dalamar> ah ill just detach one window and throw it somewhere else on the desktop, #xchat had the ticket thanks ;)
[05:03] <Evenfall> thanx
[05:03] <brenner> dalamar: yeah, they helped me out in the past
[05:03] <vader1102> I am using X-Chat and went into ubuntu servers and edit then just typed in the password
[05:04] <vader1102> then left the channel and came back and it auto came in lol
[05:04] <brenner> vader1102: weird i've got it entered in both nickserv and server
[05:04] <vader1102> I did too but for some reason, maybe my laptop it wouldn't work
[05:05] <MrBear> back
[05:05] <MrBear> well I cant install ubuntu
[05:06] <vader1102> I have to take my desktop pc apart today and clean it.... I think my poer supply is so full of dog hair that it has quit working lol
[05:06] <brenner> vader1102: your dog sleeps on your computer? :)
[05:06] <dodder> vader1102, heeeh :) my neightbours cat comes in, from time to time, and it rips my cables out from the computer... really annoying :)
[05:07] <MrBear> I think I got a corrupted cd
[05:07] <vader1102> brenner, nope lol, but by the looks of the power supply fan she does lol
[05:07] <ompaul> MrBear, does it boot at all, and are you using a mac or PC?
[05:07] <vader1102> MrBear, did you download the cd or get it from ubuntu? there was word of a bad batch from them
[05:08] <MrBear> well I installed and it got a error when it was installing the base system
[05:09] <Suschman> hi
[05:09] <vader1102> I downloaded early in the week and it worked great
[05:09] <MrBear> where you get it
[05:09] <vader1102> one sec and I'll get the URL
[05:09] <Suschman> i have a problem installing mplayer-386, its not in the repository. universe directory is enabled ...
[05:09] <MrBear> well one it installed but when it rebooted it didnt start
[05:09] <ompaul> MrBear, if it is a PC I suggest that you do a 'server' install when the machine comes up there is an option to type server, after that 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' can be a useful way to start
[05:09] <apokryphos> Suschman: it's in Multiverse.
[05:09] <MrBear> and now it wont complete the install
[05:09] <fblade1987> hey guys can you tell em how esay it is too put kde onto unbutu?
[05:10] <MrBear> ?
[05:10] <apokryphos> fblade1987: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <apokryphos> fblade1987: one command -- I'd say that was easy. :0
[05:10] <Suschman> apokryphos, are there any caveeats enabling multiverse ??
[05:10] <CarlFK> vader1102 - if all else fails, or you want a "sure thing" - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:10] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Suschman about repos
[05:10] <ompaul> MrBear back about ten lines ..
[05:10] <Suschman> thx apokryphos
[05:11] <MrBear> well I got a 1998 Dell Dimension 8100
[05:11] <vader1102> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ this is what I used
[05:11] <ompaul> MrBear did you read the info I gave out there?
[05:11] <CarlFK> vader1102 - some of my boxes don't boot from CD even though they did 10 min ago, same disk.  SBM will boot it.
[05:11] <fblade1987> and also dose any one know of a good wysiwyg webpage editor, rather like dreamweaver?
[05:11] <vader1102> CarlFK, ok thanx book marking now
[05:12] <CarlFK> fblade1987 http://www.nvu.com is as close as you are going to get
[05:12] <MrBear> yep
[05:12] <MrBear> sorry
[05:12] <ompaul> MrBear, do you understand what I have suggested?
[05:12] <apokryphos> Much better to just code it -- it's not hard to learn.
[05:12] <MrBear> ok vader this is what I downloaded
[05:12] <apokryphos> wysiwyg editors generally produce crummy code
[05:12] <MrBear> yes I understand ompaul
[05:13] <vader1102> ompaul, sorry didn't see that you were helping him, vader1102 hides in closet
[05:13] <MrBear> si there a way to check if my cd is valid
[05:14] <CarlFK> MrBear - somewere in the menu is something like 'check media'
[05:14] <CarlFK> fblade1987 - nvu isn't visual?
[05:15] <Suschman> apokryphos: sry to ask you again, but is w32codecs no longer avaliable from the repo ?
[05:16] <apokryphos> Suschman: it's in hoary-extras now
[05:17] <MrBear> I am lost
[05:17] <Pyf> i just installed apache, how would i go about accessing the web server from another computer, not on my network
[05:17] <Suschman> aswell as libdvdcss2 i hope :)
[05:17] <Pyf> when i try it goes to my routers page
[05:17] <ompaul> Suschman,  deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras restricted <<< that has lots of stuff, even some things I can't tell you about :)
[05:17] <Suschman> Pyf, you need to open the necessary ports in your router
[05:17] <fblade1987> dose anyone know a good gba emulator for linux apart from visualboy advance
[05:18] <theeil> fblade1987: what's wrong with that?
[05:18] <Pyf> Suschman, what ports? 80?
[05:18] <dodder> Pyf, exactly :)
[05:18] <Suschman> yep. i think you mean "the internet" or something behind your router with "not in my network"
[05:19] <Suschman> go to your router config page and add a route from outside connections to port 80 redirecting to port 80 of your unbuntu system
[05:19] <Pyf> ahh thanks, port forwarding done and i see the test page :)
[05:20] <MrBear> ok I am going to try the server thing
[05:20] <CarlFK> btw - my choice for web site stuf: http://www.joomla.org
[05:21] <ompaul> MrBear, good luck with it, when you log in the first time do this on the command line 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[05:21] <CarlFK> (what used to be mambo)
[05:21] <MrBear> ok I got it thanks
[05:21] <MrBear> wish me luck
[05:21] <vader1102> ompaul, that's what I missed on my server @ work lol
[05:22] <vader1102> <----has to go to work to try it tomorrow ;-)
[05:22] <MrBear> dont matter if this cd I burned is corrupted?
[05:22] <Suschman> apokryphos: why has this stuff all been outsourced, copyright related things ?
[05:23] <CarlFK> MrBear - no.  you can still use it to put your coffe cup on.
[05:23] <apokryphos> Suschman: precisely. Hoary-extras is actually illegal
[05:23] <ompaul> apokryphos, in a lot of places
[05:23] <Suschman> apokryphos: ;)
[05:23] <Pyf> I installed apache using apt-get, whereabouts would it have installed it, so what do i modify to get rid of the default test page and put a proper page on?
[05:24] <MrBear> well now what do I do
[05:24] <apokryphos> Pyf: /var/www/
[05:24] <vader1102> hmmmmm getting close to lunch time, need to go and eat.
[05:24] <apokryphos> Pyf: ...that will be http://localhost
[05:24] <ompaul> vader1102, no it is getting closer to 5pm :)
[05:25] <Suschman> timezones are bogus :)
[05:25] <vader1102> is there a way of making ISO images in Ubuntu?
[05:25] <Suschman> swatch  @time rules *g*
[05:25] <vader1102> ompaul, where you are yes but where I am almost 12 noon
[05:25] <thenuke> vader1102: everything is possible
[05:25] <CarlFK> vader1102 - mkisofs and k3b (that doesnt look right)
[05:25] <Suschman> vader1102: for example with mkisofs on the shell
[05:26] <vader1102> hmmmmm ok...thanx
[05:26] <CarlFK> vader1102 - make iso from files or a CD?
[05:26] <ompaul> vader1102, that is there, this is a time zone in your future :)
[05:26] <vader1102> cd
[05:26] <CarlFK> doh
[05:26] <robert-in-au> burn or make an iso?
[05:26] <vader1102> make
[05:26] <CarlFK> vader1102 - dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[05:26] <ompaul> MrBear, take a pm?
[05:27] <vader1102> k
[05:27] <MrBear> yes
[05:27] <CarlFK> i think /dev/cdrom is setup by default, right?
[05:27] <vader1102> anyhow I need to go and eat be back after lunch
[05:28] <Ichanz> hi
[05:29] <robert-in-au> yes /dev/cdrom is the default and /media/cdrom is th mount point
[05:29] <Pyf> apokryphos, when i try and drag a file into /var/www/ it wont let me, says i dont have permission
[05:29] <robert-in-au> then do it as root
[05:29] <apokryphos> no
[05:29] <apokryphos> Better to chmod/chown the directory
[05:30] <Pyf> how do i do that?
[05:30] <robert-in-au> go into a terminal and type "sudo nautilus"
[05:30] <apokryphos> Pyf: sudo chown {username}:{username} /var/www/
[05:30] <theeil> Pyf: i would change the group that owns the folder to something and chmod 770 the folder
[05:30] <robert-in-au> my way is easier
[05:31] <apokryphos> robert-in-au: no, your way is less practical
[05:31] <Ichanz> robert-in-au my way is easier <-- keep going mate
[05:31] <apokryphos> especially if you do a lot of editing in your /var/www/, which you will
[05:31] <apokryphos> defeats the whole point of root/sudo if you're constnatly logged in it
[05:31] <Pyf> cool, thanks :)
[05:31] <Suschman> the universe programs have no icon in the programs menu, how do i change these ? configuring the gui was a miracle to me ever since :(
[05:32] <robert-in-au> yes if your doing it alot chown is better
[05:32] <_BIJ_> hi guys!
[05:32] <Seveas> Suschman, with smeg
[05:32] <Ichanz> my floppy doesn't work in ubuntu .... how to make it works
[05:32] <Seveas> Ichanz, what did you try?
[05:32] <fblade1987> im now reeally board whats something good i can get for linux that will enteraine me for a while
[05:33] <Seveas> fblade1987, kobo deluxe
[05:33] <Seveas> package kbodl
[05:33] <Ichanz> Seveas Ichanz, what did you try? <-- ubuntu does not detect my floppy
[05:33] <Seveas> kobodl*
[05:33] <_BIJ_> i got a problem using the edge icons with ubuntu 5.04... anyone has experiences with these icons?
[05:33] <Oetzi> hi
[05:33] <Seveas> Ichanz, does it detect the drive?
[05:33] <Seveas> hi Oetzi
[05:33] <Ichanz> Seveas Ichanz, does it detect the drive? <- the drive itself is detected by bios ...
[05:34] <Suschman> Seveas: smeg should be installed ? cant find it
[05:34] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Suschman about smeg
[05:34] <Oetzi> i have problems with the ubuntu installer
[05:34] <Seveas> Ichanz, does /dev/fd0 exist?
[05:34] <Oetzi> it hangs up on
[05:34] <robert-in-au> you have to apt-get / synaptic it
[05:34] <Suschman> ah, thx
[05:34] <Ichanz> hang on... i check it
[05:34] <Oetzi> startin PC-Card-service
[05:35] <Oetzi> can anyone help me
[05:36] <pixman> hello
[05:36] <apokryphos> aloha
[05:36] <Ichanz> Seveas Ichanz, does /dev/fd0 exist? <-- does not !!!!
[05:37] <Oetzi> i have a toshiba Satellite A80-154 and really got enough from this shit fucking Win XP
[05:37] <pixman> Oetzi, what's the prob?
[05:37] <Oetzi> the installer stops at starting PC-card-service
[05:37] <Suschman> Oetzi: i remember some sattelite books have a nonstandart diskdrive controller
[05:37] <Suschman> sayed google something about it ?
[05:38] <Oetzi> Suschman: no i have googled about 1 day now
[05:39] <robert-in-au> ooh you have a toshiba - do you have a problem with the keyboard
[05:39] <Oetzi> robert-in-au: no keyboard works fine
[05:40] <robert-in-au> even if you use the touchpad and the kb at the same time
[05:40] <Oetzi> Suschman: I think the pc-card-service is the pcmcia module
[05:41] <Oetzi> i have tried with bootoption no acpi
[05:41] <Oetzi> the installer worked fine then
[05:41] <Suschman> try with expert mode and not loading card services
[05:42] <Suschman> if it works without acpi then its ok or not ?
[05:42] <Oetzi> but it didn't find the lan-card
[05:42] <Suschman> my system here neddet noacpi noapic aswell and its standart nvidia chipset
[05:43] <Suschman> acpi is oh well a bad thing, to complicated standart. hehe, after ten years not one complete compilant implementation avalaibe :D
[05:43] <Oetzi> yes I know
[05:43] <Suschman> Oetzi, lan card inside notebook or inside pcmcia slot ?
[05:44] <robert-in-au> does anyone know how to get a ati radeon + a nforce2 mobo working in linux
[05:44] <robert-in-au> (with hardware acceleration)
[05:44] <Suschman> nforce2 should run asap, radeon aswell, just install closed source driver afterwards to get 3d
[05:44] <theeil> fetchmail is not doing anything
[05:44] <Suschman> aceleration
[05:45] <Suschman> have a wiki in german describing that, duno if it helps you
[05:45] <Oetzi> the notbook has a integrated gigabit-lan-card and an integrated intel 2200bg WLAN-card
[05:45] <robert-in-au> there is an agp-gart (or something) problem
[05:45] <Oetzi> both are not found by the installer
[05:45] <Suschman> the wlan not found is normal, you can maybe bring it to live later
[05:45] <robert-in-au> well ill try translating it or ill show it to a friend
[05:45] <fblade1987> is aMSN any good or is there a better alternative/
[05:45] <robert-in-au> linky please
[05:46] <Suschman> the gigabit chips is some other thing, it depends on the manuifaturer and if its standalaone or someway chipset intefrated
[05:46] <sigurdga> fblade1987: gaim, gossip
[05:46] <Suschman> robert-in-au: mean me ?
[05:46] <theeil> i configured fetchmail ofr my gmail account and it seemed to work but didn't write any files. i noticed that postfix was not installed, so i installed anc configured that and now when i type fetchmail it tells me there is a daemon running
[05:46] <apokryphos> fblade1987: kopete is good too
[05:46] <Oetzi> the gigabit-aln is a marvel chipset
[05:47] <kevogod> GAIM is fun.
[05:47] <kevogod> (love capitalizing it)
[05:49] <Suschman> Oetzi: i remember seeing marvel supported
[05:49] <reiki> theeil: if it's telling you a daemon is running, first look in your home folder and see if there's a .fetchmailrc file (it's hidden... so Show hidden files)
[05:49] <theeil> fblade1987: go with gaim, but IMHO it needs configuration
[05:49] <Oetzi> so I'll goe offline know and try it with the old wlan-netgear pcmcia card which worked fine in the old notebook
[05:49] <theeil> reiki: that's how i configured it
[05:50] <Oetzi> thx for your help
[05:50] <reiki> theeil: well if a daemon is running then you can't just fetchmail whenever you want. It'll just say that teh daemon is awakened
[05:51] <MrBear> brb
[05:52] <MAPD> hi
[05:52] <Gnonthgol> hi
[05:52] <cheesie> !limewire
[05:52] <ubotu> somebody said limewire was at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:52] <jeanjean> Can someone help with Intel HD sound card ?
[05:52] <cheesie> maybe
[05:52] <MAPD> i wanted to delete ubuntu but couldnt do fdisk /mbr since windows cd couldnt boot i removed all partitions then and the windows one too wont it harm the disk ? And then i installed windows
[05:52] <MAPD> help
[05:52] <cheesie> maybe not
[05:52] <jeanjean> I did this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:53] <jeanjean> and unmuted everthing but still no sound
[05:53] <djur> what would I put under options in my fstab file for an NTFS volume?
[05:54] <Gnonthgol> MAPD: the mbr is always required, just reinstall winsows mbr
[05:54] <theeil> how do i configure (whatever) so that i can send mail with "mail someone@somethingnotlocal"
[05:54] <MAPD> Gnonthgol i think you didnt understand
[05:54] <MAPD> may i msg you pls?
[05:54] <bur[n] er> MAPD: is it windows xp?
[05:55] <MAPD> yes
[05:55] <MAPD> q Gnonthgol
[05:55] <bur[n] er> MAPD: and your windowx sp cd won't boot?
[05:55] <MAPD> yes
[05:55] <Maikeru> eww Windows
[05:55] <MAPD> ill explain what i did
[05:55] <bur[n] er> MAPD: no way to get it back if windows cd won't boot... you could reinstall grub from an ubuntu cd to get to windows
[05:55] <MAPD> first i couldnt find a program to replace my dvd authoring thing
[05:56] <bur[n] er> if windows cd will boot, run 'fixboot' 'fixmbr'
[05:56] <MAPD> second i wanted to get back to windows
[05:56] <MAPD> i could get into windows and linux
[05:56] <MAPD> grub was working
[05:57] <MAPD> the windows wasnt booting so i wanted to remove grub i couldnt find a way and i got a tools cd and used partition magic to remove win and linux partitions
[05:57] <MAPD> did i do wrong?
[05:57] <djur> I'm trying to add this drive to fstab so I can mount it...   /dev/hda2             754         790      297202+   5  Extended
[05:57] <djur> any ideas?
[05:57] <djur> ah you know what.. that's the wrong drive
[05:58] <Maikeru> lol
[05:58] <Maikeru> :)
[05:58] <MAPD> bur[n] er what do you think?
[05:58] <bur[n] er> MAPD: you removed all partitions?
[05:58] <bur[n] er> you did wrong
[05:58] <MAPD> why?
[05:58] <bur[n] er> you removed all your data
[05:58] <MAPD> yes
[05:58] <MAPD> i dont care
[05:58] <MAPD> i already saved
[05:58] <MAPD> what i needed
[05:59] <Maikeru> The lesson is
[05:59] <Maikeru> never use Windows
[05:59] <Maikeru> It makes everything complicated.
[05:59] <MAPD> Maikeru the problem is
[05:59] <MAPD> i cant find the program to make it good
[05:59] <MAPD> :P
[05:59] <Maikeru> To make what good?
[05:59] <MAPD> if i could find some programs
[05:59] <MAPD> i wouldnt care for windows
[05:59] <MrBear> well i guess no ubuntu for me
[05:59] <Maikeru> You can't find a program to make -Ubuntu- good?
[05:59] <Maikeru> 0-o
[05:59] <robert-in-au> there is a boot disk that just reformats stuff when you boot it
[06:00] <MAPD> Maikeru
[06:00] <MAPD> i explained wrong
[06:00] <MAPD> :\
[06:00] <MrBear> it wont install
[06:00] <bur[n] er> MAPD: you need some program in linux that doesn't exist yet
[06:00] <bur[n] er> correct?
[06:00] <MAPD> my question is i didnt remove grub properly with fixboot and thigs like that
[06:00] <Maikeru> robert-in-au, Darol
[06:00] <djur> okay.. here is a more general question..
[06:00] <Maikeru> robert-in-au, Darik's boot and nuke?
[06:00] <djur> how do you access data on NTFS systems from ubuntu?
[06:00] <bur[n] er> MAPD: so?
[06:00] <bur[n] er> djur: you can only read... unless you use the captive ntfs driver
[06:00] <djur> NTFS partitions I should say.
[06:01] <kspath> I wiped out WinXP and MacOSX for Ubuntu and Debian linux  it can do everything for my family and work
[06:01] <Maikeru> djur: You can mount the NTFS drive via mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /mnt
[06:01] <Maikeru> but it's readonly
[06:01] <CarlFK> Maikeru - I don't think you need the -t ntfs
[06:01] <djur> I downloaded some NTFS utilities through synaptic
[06:01] <robert-in-au> there is a way to add write support
[06:01] <Maikeru> CarlFK, meh, I do it neway
[06:01] <king_size> hello
[06:02] <MAPD> bur[n] er pls msg me
[06:02] <king_size> does anybody has avidemux installed
[06:03] <MAPD> pls help
[06:03] <MAPD> :P
[06:03] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive
[06:04] <djur> that drive is showing up as /dev/sda
[06:04] <MrBear> :(
[06:04] <djur> and I can't seem to mount it
[06:04] <kwoncha> MAPD: if you simply want to remove grub on your mbr you can just boot msdos and fdisk /mbr did you?
[06:04] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - but I am not sure if there is a "slick ubuntu way" to use captive
[06:04] <MAPD> kwoncha i couldnt do that
[06:05] <robert-in-au> well when i was building my kernel in gentoo i saw an option for it - but it was still experimental
[06:06] <MrBear> anybody give me a good download spot I keep getting corrupted cd
[06:06] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - there are 2 ways: the pure way (all opensource code) or the cheat (uses drivers from MS)
[06:07] <robert-in-au> i see
[06:07] <CarlFK> MrBear - can you get the iso on a linux box?
[06:07] <CarlFK> MrBear - never mind that
[06:07] <robert-in-au> btw i never did get the gentoo install to work
[06:07] <CarlFK> MrBear - what OS is the .iso on now?
[06:07] <CarlFK> robert-in-au - Generally Too much hassle....
[06:08] <robert-in-au> yea
[06:08] <MrBear> xp
[06:08] <MrBear> I only have one box with XP on it
[06:08] <robert-in-au> Window XP - Winblows Xtera Poopy
[06:08] <CarlFK> MrBear - http://www.md5summer.org - check the md5sum of the iso
[06:08] <MrBear> I keep trying to get the torrent but I keep getting a connection refused
[06:08] <kwoncha> #join wxpython
[06:09] <MrBear> how do I do that
[06:09] <CarlFK> MrBear - what is the URL you got the iso from?
[06:10] <MrBear> united states link on the site
[06:10] <CarlFK> MrBear - what is the URL you got the iso from?  (something I can click on)
[06:10] <Zotnix> Okay, I know Breezy isn't supported but I'm insane and upgraded. I got usplash to work and whatnot... anyway to get inotify to work for beagle?
[06:10] <Zotnix> I tried modprobe inotify but... nothing.
[06:11] <MrBear> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[06:11] <chope> hi, does anyone know how to place subtitles in the black borders when playing a widescreen movie fullscreen on mplayer?
[06:11] <CarlFK> MrBear - good.  look at http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[06:12] <jeanjean> can anyone help with my sound plz
[06:12] <MrBear> I just see a bunch of letters
[06:12] <CarlFK> MrBear - http://www.md5summer.org <-- use that to get the md5sum of what you have.  it should be f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d0840  ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[06:12] <jeanjean> xmms looks like hes playing but still no sound
[06:13] <CarlFK> if the 2 match, then your file is good.  if they don't, it is bad.
[06:14] <Suschman> i try now the dvb reciever, thx guys
[06:14] <chope> jeanjean: are you sure you are using the right output plugin?
[06:14] <pirast> Hi, I use gaim. I want gaim to be invisible when I start it and I want to have a list where I can put users  who can see me if I am online. Is it possible? How?
[06:14] <Suschman> cu
[06:15] <jeanjean> chope, just installed new alsa
[06:15] <dodder> is it possible to add programs to the gnome menu ?
[06:15] <Maikeru> yes
[06:15] <Maikeru> apt-get install smeg
[06:16] <dodder> huh ?
[06:16] <Maikeru> Then go to Applications > System Tools > Smeg Menu Editor
[06:16] <dodder> okey, thanks :)
[06:17] <MAPD> how to install nrg2iso?
[06:17] <chope> jeanjean: if you are getting output with other programs using asla i dont know what it could be
[06:17] <lakcaj> Why does ubuntu get rid of the alsaconf utility from alsa-utils?
[06:17] <kwoncha> Does anybody know how can disable antialiasing in macromedia flash player by default?
[06:18] <zblach> hi
[06:18] <djur> for mount is       "/" equivalent to C:  in NTFS?
[06:18] <lakcaj> MAPD, how do you install other software?
[06:18] <MAPD> lakcaj the guy is asking me
[06:18] <zblach> quick question. how to mount an ipod?
[06:18] <MAPD> LOL
[06:18] <spiral> hi
[06:19] <dalamar> !ipod
[06:19] <ubotu> hmm... ipod is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto
[06:19] <zblach> eheh.. thanks
[06:19] <lakcaj> MAPD, ok :)
[06:19] <zblach> how 'bout a media keyboard?
[06:20] <MAPD> lakcaj i dont even know the file format
[06:20] <MAPD> :\
[06:20] <MrBear> how do you use the md5 program
[06:20] <lakcaj> So nobody really seems to know why alsaconf is missing?
[06:20] <djur> what do you pick for a mount point on an NTFS drive?
[06:20] <lakcaj> MrBear, md5sum /path/to/file
[06:21] <djur> I tried "/" but that's where my linux partition is mounted..  so I'm not sure it likes that..
[06:21] <lakcaj> djur, make it whatever you want.  Create  a /windows for example
[06:21] <MAPD> my friend lost his knoppix
[06:21] <MAPD> root password
[06:21] <MAPD> what should he do?
[06:21] <djur> so / substitutes for C:/  ?
[06:22] <MAPD> sorry asking here
[06:22] <dalamar> reinstall ;)
[06:22] <lakcaj> djur, no
[06:22] <MrBear> man this is too complete
[06:22] <MAPD> but i needed something from him
[06:22] <MAPD> :\
[06:22] <djur> or is it essentially /dev/sda = C: (they are different ways of saying the same thing?)
[06:22] <lakcaj> djur, if you are trying to mount an NTFS partition while in linux, create a /windows directory, and mount it there.
[06:22] <djur> okay
[06:23] <lakcaj> djur, / is the root partition of all your linux files.  You can't mount something else over that and expect your system to still work.
[06:23] <MrBear> complicated*
[06:23] <lakcaj> MrBear, what is complicated?  What are you trying to do?
[06:23] <MrBear> I just want a working cd
[06:25] <djur> hm...
[06:26] <lakcaj> MrBear, check that the iso you downloaded has the proper md5sum by issuing       md5sum /path/to/downloaded.iso
[06:26] <djur> so I created the directory.. but it says the drive is mounted at /  which... is.. as you say.. bad.
[06:26] <MrBear> got to redownload it
[06:27] <Nalioth_zZz> MrBear: what image are you wanting to get?
[06:27] <lakcaj> djur, you are in your ubuntu system right now?  If you have something besides your ubuntu partition mounted at / then yes, that is bad :)
[06:28] <zblach> !keyboard
[06:28] <ubotu> zblach: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:28] <MrBear> x86
[06:28] <zblach> !media keyboard
[06:28] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, zblach
[06:28] <Nalioth_zZz> MrBear: a daily image or a regular hoary image?
[06:28] <djur> it won't let me unmount it because it is busy..
[06:28] <stpere> hey there
[06:28] <zblach> hey
[06:28] <MrBear> omg
[06:29] <stpere> is there an "official" ubuntu package for listening to podcasts? (suscribing, syncing)
[06:29] <Nalioth> MrBear: depending on what you are after, you may not have to d/l it all again
[06:29] <MrBear> I just want a simple desktop on this computer
[06:30] <djur> when the system loads it mounts everything from the fstab file, right?
[06:30] <Nalioth> MrBear: what iso are you after?
[06:30] <lakcaj> djur, I think you may need to reboot.
[06:30] <djur> so if I have every entered correctly in the fstab file, if I reboot it will remount the drive at /windows
[06:30] <djur> reboot and hope it reboots, right?
[06:31] <MrBear> one that works on this computer
[06:31] <Nalioth> MrBear: if your md5sums mismatch, find the .torrent to match the image you d/l
[06:32] <Nalioth> MrBear: it will correct/add/whatever to complete it (w/o you having to d/l the whole thing agaain)
[06:32] <MrBear> I have to redownload it anyway
[06:32] <MrBear> cause ubuntu wiped my drive
[06:33] <Nalioth> MrBear: ah
[06:34] <djur> when entering startup programs into "sessions" do you have to put a . before the files to make it execute?
[06:34] <djur> like ./usr/bin/BLAH
[06:34] <djur> or would /usr/bin/BLAH work?
[06:35] <MAPD> is there a symbian emulator?
[06:35] <Nalioth> djur, no dot needed
[06:35] <Nalioth> djur: with a direct expression
[06:35] <zblach> how to use keyboard media buttons with xmms?
[06:35] <djur> thanks
[06:36] <disasm> djur: a dot says execute in this current directory, so unless your executing /usr/bin/BLAH from / ./user/bin/BLAH wouldn't work
[06:38] <spola> except in a bash scipt when there's a space between the dot and the path then the dot simple means "source this"
[06:38] <disasm> zblach: try a program called lineak
[06:40] <disasm> zblach: sudo apt-get install lineakd
[06:40] <zblach> lemme look for it
[06:41] <k1234> Hello
[06:42] <zblach> easy to integrate with xmms?
[06:42] <zblach> sound +/- already works
[06:43] <disasm> zblach: supposed to be
[06:44] <bobert> I'm using the default firefox that comes with ubuntu, and I'm having an issuew ith it. I try to do a context menu > properties on an image, and the properties window comes up and says I have an XML Parsing error along with an error and it's location
[06:45] <MAPD> byebye
[06:45] <MAPD> gtg
[06:47] <lakcaj> bobert, did you upgrade firefox while it was still running?  Try shutting down firefox and starting it back up.
[06:47] <Gnonthgol> bobert: What image? Have you tryed an image on another server??
[06:47] <bobert> lakcaj, that's a good idea. I DID just run updates, but I didn't check to see if firefox was in there
[06:47] <lakcaj> XML Parsing errors occur (among other times I'm sure) when you upgrade firefox while you are still using it.
[06:48] <bobert> aha!
[06:48] <bobert> it worked, thank you lakcaj
[06:48] <lakcaj> np
[06:50] <MrBear> I guess I will have to stick to XP
[06:55] <flodine> guys im tring to install breezy can i put the bootloader on a diffrent drive?
[06:56] <ce33na> flodine: I'm not a bootloader pro, but is there an option to not install the bootloader?
[06:56] <FatDarrel> sure
[06:56] <flodine> yes
[06:56] <ce33na> you could just edit your present bootloader to recognize the new install
[06:57] <ce33na> I've done such things in the past, but I couldn't guide you through it though. Sorry
[06:57] <FatDarrel> Among the new enhancements to the Linux kernel is "Kexec," which allows for a fast reboot without the need to go through a bootloader.
[06:58] <ce33na> btw...is there a release date set for breezy....or will it just be ready when it is ready?
[06:58] <c0rrupt_> how can i chown a file to be public
[06:58] <flodine> i just dont understand why breezy wont boot after the install is complete
[06:58] <dalamar> oct 13th
[06:59] <ce33na> flodine: you have to be more specific
[06:59] <fevel> can anyone help me put subtitles on totem...its mpg format and the subtitles are .srt
[07:00] <c0rrupt_> like.. have no owner
[07:02] <h17m4n> ok so I got the UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[07:02] <h17m4n> how do I install it?
[07:02] <seife> hi, i have two differents OS one in each HD, how can i do to join in ubuntu, or windows,  is there any prog that tells me where to join
[07:02] <seife> (my english sucks) btw.
[07:03] <h17m4n> boot manager?
[07:03] <h17m4n> ubuntu comes with GRUB
[07:03] <h17m4n> when you install ubuntu it asks you to let it install it
[07:04] <Nalioth> back to the nap
[07:04] <h17m4n> when you do, everytime the computer starts it will give you many options to choose from
[07:06] <seife> really?
[07:07] <h17m4n> si
[07:07] <fevel> can anyone help me subtitle on totem...its mpg format and the subtitles are .srt
[07:07] <fevel> please
[07:08] <vegalabs> hi, has anyone gotten wireless working under hoary for the thinkpad t41p (intel wireless/pro 2100). most say it works out of the box. doesn't seem to be the case here.
[07:09] <Whistler> how do i play avi files?
[07:09] <FatDarrel> Whistler, use xine and mplayer or totem
[07:10] <dalamar> believe in magic
[07:10] <fanopnaic> or vlc.
[07:10] <fevel> check the wiki Whistler
[07:10] <Whistler> Totem-xine gives me an There is no plugin to handle this movie.
[07:10] <Whistler> i installed it using sudo aprt-get install totem-xine
[07:10] <FatDarrel> Whistler, you don't have the codec, you may need to download the divx and xvid codecs etc
[07:10] <dalamar> !codecs
[07:10] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:11] <Whistler> k
[07:11] <Whistler> thx
[07:11] <FatDarrel> Whistler, do an apt-cache search xvid and apt-cache search codecs
[07:11] <h17m4n> I got wireless working
[07:11] <h17m4n> but it was Broadcom
[07:11] <fevel> Whistler, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[07:11] <h17m4n> it was kinda hard
[07:11] <FatDarrel> h17m4n, ufff
[07:11] <FatDarrel> h17m4n, as if it should easy >sigh<
[07:12] <h17m4n> well, from what I heard it's harder than installing the intel one
[07:12] <h17m4n> did you try ndiswrapper?
[07:12] <vegalabs> h17m4n: no i haven't.
[07:13] <Paradoxx> which one you guys prefer, totem, or mplayeR?
[07:13] <h17m4n> let me get you the howto I used
[07:13] <h17m4n> h/o
[07:13] <dalamar> xine!
[07:14] <vegalabs> k. i'm getting ndis.
[07:14] <Paradoxx> dalamar: y do you say that?
[07:14] <vegalabs> Paradoxx: most definitely mplayer.
[07:14] <Paradoxx> i'm useing totem atm, and the functionality etc, just feels so limited
[07:14] <MrBear> sorry guys but I guess I will go
[07:15] <__filip_> i have install apache, where should i put my html file?
[07:15] <h17m4n> This walkthrough is good: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[07:15] <vegalabs> h17m4n: thanks
[07:15] <Paradoxx> so, mplayer or xine?
[07:15] <Paradoxx> i guess its down  to that
[07:16] <vegalabs> Paradoxx: why don't you try them and see which you prefer?
[07:16] <h17m4n> vega wait
[07:16] <h17m4n> this one is easier: http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~aruljohn/debian/
[07:16] <h17m4n> go down to wireless and ndiswrapper
[07:17] !lilo:*! If you're experiencing problems with private message spambots, please message me. Thanks!
[07:17] <h17m4n> make sure you have the .sys and .inf for your card
[07:17] <Maikeru> heh
[07:17] <Maikeru> any idea on the DWL-650 Revision P?
[07:17] <Maikeru> Can't get ndis to work with it
[07:17] <Maikeru> Bloody annoying
[07:17] <vegalabs> ok. the odd thing is that linux does see the card. it reports signal strength, retreives an ip address, but, doesn't actually connect.
[07:18] <h17m4n> ohh
[07:18] <vegalabs> well
[07:18] <zblach> you using wep encryption?
[07:18] <h17m4n> so dont follow that
[07:18] <Maikeru> Well, with my ubuntu it like doesn't recognize the card has been put in ;/
[07:18] <vegalabs> during the install it can't dhcp. maybe wep has something to do with it.
[07:18] <h17m4n> you probably need to input your wep key
[07:18] <zblach> and set mode to open, if appliccable
[07:18] <Maikeru> The card gets power sent to it (the activity light lights up), but I don't think it knows that a card is in there ;/
[07:18] <vegalabs> yeah, i have provided the ssid and wep keys. no dice.
[07:18] <Paradoxx> vegalabs: guess so..
[07:18] <Maikeru> (Oh, and sorry to jump in on someone else's problem)
[07:18] <zblach> System -> Admin -> Networking
[07:19] <zblach> try configuring through there
[07:19] <Paradoxx> how can i check if i installed the nvidia graphics acceleration stuff
[07:19] <zblach> paradoxx, glxgears should give you a very high number
[07:19] <h17m4n> I dun.... run glxgears
[07:19] <Whistler> how do i launch py program?
[07:19] <h17m4n> if you get over 1k it's ok
[07:19] <lakcaj> glxinfo | grep -i nvidia
[07:20] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, ^^^
[07:20] <Paradoxx> kk
[07:20] <Paradoxx> well, i just ran it awhile ago
[07:20] <Paradoxx> do i just leave it, or what?
[07:20] <Paradoxx> i see the gears spinning
[07:20] <zblach> look in the console, see some FPS numbers/
[07:20] <h17m4n> it outputs the number on the terminal window
[07:21] <zdennis> In Evolution, is there a way to collapse all threads?
[07:21] <h17m4n> it posts the FPS every 5 secs on that window
[07:21] <Whistler> how do i launch py program?
[07:21] <lakcaj> What is the full path to the python program?
[07:22] <Swen> I'm trying to install ubuntu and on reboot I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[07:22] <lakcaj> and program name?
[07:22] <Paradoxx> i don't see any fps
[07:22] <zblach> Paradoxx, in the console
[07:22] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, forget glxgears, just close it and run the command I showed you.
[07:22] <zblach> can one auto-detect networked printers?
[07:22] <vegalabs> zblach: yep, tried that. ifconfig shows an ipaddress. by default,the check box "this device is configured" is not checked. so i checked it. added ssid and key, plus dhcp seems to work.
[07:22] <zdennis> Swen, what is the error before that? Cannot mount root filesystem
[07:22] <zdennis> ?
[07:22] <h17m4n> dont just run the command from Applications > Run Application
[07:22] <Swen> the first error is pivot_root: No such file or directory
[07:22] <zblach> vegalabs, go to a console, iwconfig wlan0
[07:23] <h17m4n> Click Applications>System Tools>Terminal
[07:23] <Paradoxx> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[07:23] <Paradoxx> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[07:23] <Paradoxx> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[07:23] <Paradoxx> OpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.74
[07:23] <zblach> ...careful about pasting
[07:23] <Swen> then...
[07:23] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, there you go, you're using nvidia
[07:23] <Paradoxx> kk
[07:23] <Swen> sbin/init:428 : cannot open /dev/console: No such file
[07:24] <Paradoxx> lakcaj you had recommended S5 to me yesterday?
[07:24] <lakcaj> Paradoxx, could have been.  I used S5 for a presentation I was working on.
[07:24] <vegalabs> zblach: iwconfig eth1 works. would you like me to message you the output?
[07:24] <Whistler> grrr. i installed everything in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs and
[07:24] <zeus1_> hey guys...my headset is detected but its not playing sound through them, its only playing sound thru the speakers anyone can help me?
[07:24] <zdennis> Swen, is ther anything special about your system? 64-bit ?
[07:24] <Swen> any ideas? I went with defaults on a Dell
[07:24] <sJaM> !ubuntuguide
[07:24] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[07:25] <Whistler> totem cant play avi
[07:25] <Swen> Dell Pentium 4 Optiplex GX280
[07:25] <Swen> pretty generic
[07:25] <sJaM> which codec Whistler
[07:25] <lakcaj> Whistler, chmod 755 the python program, and then either "python /path/to/app/program_name.py" or "cd /path/to/app" and then "./program_name.py"
[07:25] <sJaM> avi can mean lots of codecs
[07:26] <Paradoxx> hmm, xine feels ALOT more responsive than totem
[07:26] <zdennis> during the installation does Ubuntu partition your hard drive for you, or do you partition it yousrelf?
[07:26] <Swen> Viewsonic flat screen vg710
[07:26] <h17m4n> ok.... how do I install the UT2004 demo?   From that error message, it would appear that the download was prematurally (sp?) halted.
[07:30] <sJaM> I think it is one of those install script & archive in one file things
[07:30] <h17m4n> lakcaj, I used d4x
[07:31] <h17m4n> lakcaj, does it mess up downloads like that?
[07:31] <sJaM> just like .gz.sh
[07:31] <sJaM> or .sh.gz
[07:31] <lakcaj> h17m4n, I don't know, I don't abuse servers with download accelerators
[07:31] <sJaM> if you vim it h17m4n you see then a bash script
[07:31] <Maikeru> hrm
[07:31] <Agrajag> sJaM: not unless it's unzipped first
[07:32] <h17m4n> lakcaj, I'm not abusing the server... I'm on a 256k connection... it's not cool to have to restart dls
[07:32] <sJaM> like I said Agrajag it could be a script and archive in one file
[07:32] <Agrajag> sJaM: it is
[07:32] <Agrajag> But it has to be ungzipped before it can be run
[07:33] <h17m4n> firefox's download manager doesnt allow you to resume downloads, so I need to use a manager that will do so
[07:33] <djur> grrr..
[07:33] <sJaM> you also have wget h17m4n
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so is breezy ready to use yet?
[07:33] <lakcaj> h17m4n, in any case, it would appear that the download was not successful.  I think you have to try again.
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or is it still plauged by problems?
[07:34] <Maikeru> ergh
[07:34] <Maikeru> hey
[07:34] <Maikeru> Texas Instruments chipsets based WiFi wireless IEEE 802.11a/b/g 54 Mbps 2.4/5 GHz devices
[07:34] <Maikeru> Do those work out-of-box on Linux?
[07:34] <djur> this is the second time I've installed ubuntu to have my USB keyboard stop working on a reboot...
[07:34] <Maikeru> Cause I found one for $10 instead of the usual $30, but the sale ends today
[07:34] <djur> when it boots in the live environment it detects the keyboard and works perfectly...  but on a reboot from an install it does not..
[07:34] <Maikeru> but the deal is only good to me if the card works on linux
[07:35] <Maikeru> It's a Texas Instruments chipset
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does anyone know if breezy is ready for use yet?
[07:35] <djur> when installing your are installing from root, right?  on a reboot is it not root?
[07:36] <dalamar> its still beta so no, things are still broken, alas its not released yet
[07:36] <Varanger> Hello!
[07:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn i can't waite for it
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i love the horey addition so much it rocks so hard core
[07:37] <h17m4n> wget adresshere - that's how you use it right?
[07:37] <Varanger> I use Ubuntu and when my machine starts, it run gdm by default and then GNOME
[07:37] <Whistler> grrrr.
[07:37] <Whistler> i cant make ubuntu play avi file
[07:37] <Varanger> How can I make that depending on the user GNOME or KDE is are loaded ?
[07:37] <funkyHat> Varanger, on the login screen, there will be a button 'sessions'
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Whistler: you need to use backports to get .avi to play
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you need the W32codeces
[07:38] <Alcor_>  What do i do when the ubuntu install can't mount the cdrom ? If i go to a shell and do dmesg its says a cdrom is on /dev/sr0
[07:38] <funkyHat> Varanger, click that, then choose KDE, when you press enter, it will ask you if you want that to be the default session, or this time only
[07:38] <Whistler> ChurcH_of_FoamY i installed all plugins but totem-xine still cant play it
[07:38] <lakcaj> Alcor_, man mount
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well um use Mplayer
[07:38] <funkyHat> Varanger, (when you entered your username and password it will ask you that)
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it works for me
[07:38] <dalamar> totem is crap anyway, just use regular xine
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with the W32codeces
[07:39] <Varanger> funkyHat: thanks... but before that how can I install KDE ???
[07:39] <Zotnix> Anyone here using Breezy?
[07:39] <zeus1_> hey guys...my headset is detected but its not playing sound through them, its only playing sound thru the speakers anyone can help me?
[07:39] <funkyHat> Varanger, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i use beep for my music and Mplayer for .avi and other propriatery codecs
[07:39] <lakcaj> Alcor_, or add this to your /etc/fstab:           /dev/sr0       /media/cdrom2   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[07:39] <Zotnix> Having an odd error with python. I do import os and then os.getlogin()
[07:39] <Zotnix> I get "No such file or directory" error
[07:39] <funkyHat> Varanger, or if you're more comfortable using synaptic, find the package kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Zotnix: have you had any luck with breezy?
[07:39] <lakcaj> Alcor_, and change /media/cdrom2 to whatever you want, but be sure that directory exists
[07:39] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Yeah. Using it now.
[07:39] <Alcor_> lakcaj: mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom gives /mounting /dev/sr0 on /cdrom failed: No medium found
[07:40] <Varanger> funkyHat: Will that override my current configuration (gdm) ???
[07:40] <XiDuS> n
[07:40] <lakcaj> Alcor_, stupid question - is there a disk in the drive?
[07:40] <Alcor_> yes
[07:40] <saka|nix> lol
[07:40] <Zotnix> Is it an audio CD?
[07:40] <funkyHat> Varanger, you will be asked during the configuration whether you want to use gdm or kdm, but both gdm and kdm can be used to log in to either desktop environment
[07:40] <Alcor_> its the ubuntu install cd
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Zotnix: is it any good
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> should i use it now or waite?
[07:41] <lakcaj> Alcor_, try /dev/scd0
[07:41] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm liking it. Cairo is really nice for Ubuntu. I'd say wait... I had a few issues during upgrade
[07:41] <Zotnix> GDM messed up for a bit (config file problem), locales got messed up.
[07:41] <zeus1_> wats kubuntu
[07:41] <funkyHat> Varanger, the instructions i gave you for setting the default session apply to gdm, they are probably the same or similar for kdm, but i'm not certain
[07:41] <funkyHat> KDE
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i'll waite some more >.<
[07:41] <zeus1_> well wats a kde
[07:41] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Only a month wait.
[07:41] <funkyHat> it's an alternative to Gnome
[07:42] <Zotnix> But I'm insane. So I upgraded.
[07:42] <lakcaj> zeus1_, google is your friend
[07:42] <zeus1_> where get pics
[07:42] <Zotnix> Took a long time to upgrade too. Few errors during the install process.
[07:42] <zeus1_> is it like fluxbox
[07:42] <zeus1_> KDE
[07:42] <Varanger> funkyHat: you are the best! Thanks a lot...
[07:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i need a cool tux sticker for my box
[07:43] <funkyHat> no problem Varanger
[07:43] <zeus1_> oh wait i remember KDE
[07:43] <Zotnix> But.. the good. Cairo is awesome. I don't think everything has ever looked this crisp
[07:43] <zeus1_> knoppix used KDE rite
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[07:43] <funkyHat> yep
[07:43] <zeus1_> ahh i like gnome better
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> 'yea gnome rocks
[07:43] <zeus1_> fluxbox is to hard for me
[07:43] <Zotnix> Aw :(
[07:43] <Zotnix> Command line applet doesn't accept URIs anymore
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> KDE is to um tweakable for my likes
[07:43] <Maikeru> knoppix can also switch to gnome
[07:43] <funkyHat> i have gnome, kde, e17, xfce4, and afterstep
[07:43] <zeus1_> well i at least want to get my sound working before i use fluxbox again
[07:43] <funkyHat> :P
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> really i diden't know that
[07:44] <Maikeru> there's a thing in there to switch the display manager
[07:44] <Varanger> funkyHat: I have downloaded kubuntu CD and trying to add the repositories to sources.list
[07:44] <Maikeru> from gnome, kde, and some others
[07:44] <Varanger> (won't try to download more 100 mb again)
[07:44] <djur> surely someone knows how to make USB keyboards work consistently in ubuntu....   help meee..  I like my keyboard. ;)
[07:44] <Zotnix> http://zotnix.com/screens/current.png
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> man that is a killer desktop ^_^
[07:45] <Maikeru> nice
[07:45] <Maikeru> Good job on that Zotnix
[07:45] <Pickle_Weasel> is there an equalizer for rhythmbox?
[07:45] <Zotnix> Pondering playing around with xcompmgr again
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i like how you have your colours in your terminal boxes
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do you do that?
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and how did you get on irc through them?
[07:46] <Zotnix> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Default for ubuntu
[07:46] <Zotnix> ls
[07:46] <Varanger> funkyHat: see you!
[07:46] <Zotnix> irssi
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> huh?
[07:46] <Zotnix> Is command line IRC client
[07:46] <Varanger> funkyHat: bye
[07:46] <dalamar> meh, everything on my desktop is the same color ;)
[07:46] <funkyHat> bye Varanger, have fun with KDE
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats not the defult colours and stuff for ubuntu O_o
[07:46] <Alcor_> lakcaj: did't work. But i rebootet and tryed sr0 again. I gives me mount: /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only. gives me that 3 times and ends with a fail: Invalid argument
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> unless your talkin breezy
[07:46] <Zotnix> Wait.. you mean the windows?
[07:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea they rock
[07:47] <zeus1_> anyone help me out with sound problems
[07:47] <Varanger> funkyHat: I'll have even more fun with MythTV and Cedega!
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with the clours and such
[07:47] <Zotnix> The titlebars and GTK theme is Clearlooks-graphite
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok how do i get it i like the way it looks
[07:48] <Zotnix> Theme doesn't work on Ubuntu Hoary
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> this theme that comes with ubuntu is too bright for my likes
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damn
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that sucks
[07:48] <dalamar> edit your terminal profile and change the colors
[07:48] <Varanger> zeus1_: What problem do you have?
[07:48] <funkyHat> clearlooks doesn't work at all on hoary afaik
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cause i want to make the ubuntu theme darker it's too bright for my taste