[00:52] <RAOF> jcastro: You need to stop teasing G+ with blank Electronic Arts sessions :)
[01:02] <RAOF> Wooo!  ddebs support into soyuz?  Yes please!
[01:05] <cyphermox> RAOF: cool
[01:11] <ajmitch> RAOF: it wasn't just that jcastro taunting us
[01:13] <cyphermox> yay, I can now select text in email again! :D
[01:14] <RAOF> Funky!
[01:14] <cyphermox> indeed.
[01:15] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: oh! I want some of that! :P
[01:15] <mdeslaur> most annoying bug ever :)
[01:16] <cyphermox> yup yup
[01:16] <cyphermox> there's a patch on the upstream bug; I'll upload to quantal in a minute, then start shepherding it through the SRU process
[04:37] <pitti> Good morning
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[09:00] <xclaesse> oh, finally understood why all icones appear in duplicate in gnome-shell's overview, need to disable "Debian" directory from alacarte (the menu editor tool)
[09:00] <xclaesse> can't that be done by default in ubuntu please?
[09:04] <xclaesse> according to what I see by googling, that happens for unity as well...
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, there is no "Debian" directory by default
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> at least, i don't have one here....
[09:04] <xclaesse> what pulled it then?
[09:05] <xclaesse> is menu-xdg installed by default?
[09:05] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, no, it's not installed by default
[09:06] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, did you install the "gnome" meta package? it seems that recommends menu-xdg for some very strange reason
[09:06] <xclaesse> right, that's it
[09:07] <xclaesse> can it be removed from deps if it provides nothing useful, please?
[09:08] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, i guess so. did you report a bug?
[09:11] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, I fell stupid, but I've already looked many times, but launchpad does not seems to have a "I WANT TO REPORT A BUG" button
[09:12] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/. it's on the RHS for me
[09:12] <xclaesse> how wrong can it be that "Report a bug" link goes to a page not telling how to do it
[09:12] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, oh, you get redirected, don't you?
[09:13] <xclaesse> ohh, so "Report a bug" is useful only if you go to the package page
[09:13] <xclaesse> waw
[09:13] <xclaesse> seriously...
[09:14] <Laney> you're supposed to use ubuntu-bug, not the launchpad web interface
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's true, although it probably doesn't make that much difference in this case :)
[09:15] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/+bug/993844
[09:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993844 in meta-gnome3 "drop menu-xdg dependency" [Undecided,New]
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> but for firefox, I enforce that quite vigorously now, and just close bugs that are reported via the launchpad interface ;)
[09:15] <Laney> well, it does in that the web interface is deliberately making it difficult
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, thanks
[09:16] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, speaking about bugs when installing that meta-package: grub displays a "debian" image after installing gnome-desktop-environment
[09:17] <Laney> those are really debian metapackages
[09:17] <Laney> perhaps we should think about getting them out of ubuntu
[09:17] <xclaesse> Laney, ubuntu needs at least a package i-want-the-real-gnome-desktop
[09:18] <Laney> yes
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it does seem like this is the sort of thing that shouldn't be based on debian
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> i'm sure we used to carry quite a large delta for the gnome2 metapackages
[09:19] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, I guess canonical does zero testing of gnome env now? :/
[09:19] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, well, i don't. but i can't speak for my other colleagues :)
[09:20] <micahg> why not just collaborate more with Debian to reduce the delata
[09:20] <micahg> *delta
[09:21] <Laney> i think it's reasonable to expect differences here
[09:21] <Laney> perhaps a normal delta would be alright though
[09:21] <micahg> and things like different images can be kept in Debian
[09:21] <xclaesse> any idea what package provides grub's theme?
[09:27] <mlankhorst> morning
[10:01] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, reported that one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/+bug/993865
[10:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993865 in meta-gnome3 "desktop-base changes grub's theme to debian" [Undecided,New]
[10:03] <davidcalle> pitti, ping
[10:03] <pitti> hello davidcalle
[10:03] <davidcalle> pitti, how are you?
[10:04] <pitti> quite fine, thanks! just made some progress on debugging a bug I've chased for a week now
[10:06] <davidcalle> pitti, I would need your advice on a potential sru. There is a localization bug in the Video lens ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/993002 ), that has been fixed yesterday with the help of experimented ln18 people from #ubuntu-translators. Do you think it would qualified as an sru? Or backport?
[10:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993002 in unity "Unity video lens doesn't work when installing in Cuba country" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[10:07] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, I happened to have noticed my grub had the debian theme, but I didn't know the source
[10:12] <pitti> davidcalle: that's not a good backport, it shoudl be an SRU
[10:12] <pitti> davidcalle: backports is for new versions, SRUs are for bug fixes
[10:12] <davidcalle> pitti, ok
[10:13] <davidcalle> pitti, I'll modify the report to be sru compliant, and assign ubuntu-sru. Anything else I need to do?
[10:17] <pitti> davidcalle: you need to upload a fix to precise-proposed
[10:17] <pitti> or get it uploaded through your sponsor
[10:18] <davidcalle> pitti, sure, I was talking about the administrative side of things :) Thanks a lot.
[10:18] <pitti> davidcalle: no, that's pretty much it -- have a bug, link to it in changelog, upload it
[10:18] <pitti> we try to make it as easy as possible
[10:19] <pitti> and make sure that the bug has reproduction steps
[11:36] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hi :), could you push your firefox 13b2 package to quantal too?
[11:37] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, not when it doesn't build
[11:37] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, so you already know it doesnt build?
[11:37] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, yeah
[11:37] <ricotz> i see :\
[12:20] <Sweetshark> ricotz: ping?
[12:20] <ricotz> Sweetshark, pong
[12:27] <Sweetshark> ricotz: did you do any work on 3.5.3 backporting or are you planning to?
[12:28] <ricotz> Sweetshark, lucid and oneiric are currently building
[12:28] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_text=&build_state=building
[12:29] <Sweetshark> ricotz: ah, great! I will reply to http://sweetshark.livejournal.com/11319.html?view=16695#t16695 quoting your awesomeness then ;)
[12:29] <ricotz> Sweetshark, will do natty too later today
[12:30] <ricotz> Sweetshark, but lucid amd64 might fail
[12:32] <Sweetshark> ricotz: ppa fs size again?
[12:32] <ricotz> Sweetshark, ah, sorry, i considered your precise ppa upload as testbuild which can be dropped if it is published in precise
[12:33] <ricotz> Sweetshark, yeah, maybe the builder is blacklisted but the lucid build is smaller
[12:34] <ricotz> the oneiric builds should be fine
[12:34] <Sweetshark> ricotz: oh, no, did you just delete the 3.5.3 precise upload?
[12:35] <ricotz> Sweetshark, i did :\, this morning
[12:36] <Sweetshark> ricotz: arrgh, that one is published in >100 websites as here you can update easily!
[12:36] <Sweetshark> *grmble*
[12:36] <ricotz> let me try something
[12:36] <Sweetshark> pitti: is there a way to maybe copy the 3.5.3 precise-proposed package over to the libreoffice ppa?
[12:37] <pitti> Sweetshark: yes, can do that
[12:37] <pitti> Sweetshark: what's the URL of the PPA?
[12:37] <Sweetshark> pitti: please do for major shitstorm avoidance.
[12:38] <Sweetshark> pitti: ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[12:38] <ricotz> pitti, doing it already
[12:39] <pitti> ricotz: oh, you can do that from the web uI?
[12:39] <ricotz> yes, if it doesnt timeout :\
[12:39] <ricotz> pitti, please go ahead if you like
[12:40] <Sweetshark> (as a sideeffect we will have all l10n in the ppa then and not only 12 langs, which is kinda nice).
[12:40] <pitti> Sweetshark: to clarify, you mean source+binaries, to the PPA for "precise"?
[12:40] <ricotz> pitti, ah it worked
[12:40] <pitti> 2012-05-03 12:40:19 ERROR   libreoffice 1:3.5.3-0ubuntu1 in precise (same version has unpublished binaries in the destination archive for Precise, please wait for them to be published before copying)
[12:40] <pitti> I suppose ricotz beat me to it
[12:40] <Sweetshark> pitti: yes
[12:41] <pitti> yep, there it is
[12:41]  * ricotz feels better now
[12:42] <Sweetshark> oh, and we have ppc additionally there, also nice.
[12:43] <ricotz> Sweetshark, yeah, not sure if ppc really get published
[12:44] <Sweetshark> pitti: "all builds were successfull, but have not yet been published" <- does that mean amd64/i386 too?
[12:44] <pitti> I hope ricotz copied the binaries, too
[12:44] <ricotz> Sweetshark, it takes some time
[12:45] <ricotz> the publishing process, i mean
[12:45] <ricotz> pitti, i did
[12:45] <Sweetshark> ricotz: please dont delete stuff from me in that ppa without pinging me first. If I do testbuilds I do them locally or in one of my really personal ppas.
[12:46] <ricotz> Sweetshark, ok
[12:46] <ricotz> g2g, bye
[13:43] <cyphermox> pitti: wireless-tools done.
[13:44] <pitti> cyphermox: cool, thanks
[15:34] <pitti> good night everyone!
[15:35] <thomaspr> pitti just one question
[16:12] <seb128> hey
[16:13] <mlankhorst> heya
[19:33] <dobey> chrisccoulson: ooh. are we going to start shipping firefox with gstreamer backend now? :)
[19:34] <bob__> when trying to test 12.04 from cd no launcher, whats up?
[19:35] <dobey> bob__: a bug maybe? you should file it :)
[19:36] <bob__> where is that done at?
[19:37] <micahg> dobey: it would only be possible in oneiric and later
[19:38] <dobey> micahg: that's fine by me
[19:39] <dobey> bob__: you can run "ubuntu-bug unity" on the live cd, or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/unity/+filebug
[19:40] <dobey> bob__: the former is better, as it will collect useful information about your hardware
[19:41] <micahg> dobey: the second link will redirect to a help page for people who are non members of bug control
[19:41] <bob__> how does one get to the terminal to do that?
[19:41] <ogra_> ctrl-alt-T
[19:41] <bob__> k thanks
[19:47] <beyler> chromium http://i46.tinypic.com/2cp9u28.png  What is the reason it 12.04 xubuntu
[19:50] <micahg> beyler: try #xubuntu
[19:52] <beyler> micahg: does not respond to anybody out there
[19:53] <micahg> then try #ubuntu
[19:55] <beyler> micahg: k
[21:07] <robert_ancell2> names
[21:07] <robert_ancell2> \
[21:08] <robert_ancell2> RAOF: You gone broke my quantal desktop
[21:09] <seb128> robert_ancell2, hey
[21:09] <seb128> robert_ancell2, how are you?
[21:10] <robert_ancell2> seb128: good, but stuck in text mode
[21:10] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: downgrade libxfont to 1:1.4.4-1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfont/+bug/992745
[21:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 992745 in libxfont "X doesn't load in Quantal, downgrading libxfont1 to Precise version fixes it : could not open default font 'fixed'" [Critical,Fix committed]
[21:10] <seb128> robert_ancell2, quantal? not scared ;-)
[21:10] <Sarvatt> it just got uploaded to debian to be synced to quantal an hour or so ago
[21:10] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: ah, that's what I'm looking for
[21:11] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: Is there any easy way to do the downgrade?  (no web browser to find the link)
[21:11] <robert_ancell2> seb128: precise was working too well :)
[21:12] <seb128> robert_ancell2, except that lightdm forces me to reboot every second login :p
[21:12] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: i386 or amd64?
[21:12] <seb128> robert_ancell2, mterry got a fix btw
[21:12] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: amd64
[21:12] <robert_ancell2> seb128, well that sounds fun - which bug is that one?
[21:12] <seb128> robert_ancell2, add a precise source and sudo apt-get install libxfont1/precise ?
[21:12] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: wget http://goo.gl/drqCo :)
[21:13] <mterry> robert_ancell2, yeeah was just mailing you
[21:13] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: easy, cheers
[21:13] <mterry> robert_ancell2, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-greeter/986967/+merge/104622
[21:13] <seb128> robert_ancell2, the "alpha never reachs 1 and so the greeter doesn't transition"
[21:13] <mterry> robert_ancell2, and your idea to move to Year.Month versioning seems good
[21:15] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: You sent me the link for 1.4.5-1 instead of 1.4.4-1
[21:15] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: shoot, sorry!
[21:15] <robert_ancell2> mterry: cool
[21:15] <robert_ancell2> mterry: we just need to convince the unity team to do the same
[21:15] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: http://goo.gl/PYdyf
[21:16] <Sarvatt> thats libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb
[21:17] <robert_ancell2> yay, back to graphics!
[21:17] <seb128> Sarvatt, what happened to "if you break Ubuntu you fix or revert it"? ;-)
[21:17] <Sarvatt> seb128: who broke ubuntu? (i cant upload anything either) :P
[21:17] <Sarvatt> libxfont (1:1.4.5-2) unstable; urgency=low
[21:17] <Sarvatt>  .
[21:17] <Sarvatt>  * Ease sync for Ubuntu: strip -Bsymbolic-functions from LDFLAGS
[21:17] <Sarvatt>    (LP: #992745).
[21:18] <Sarvatt> some toolchain change and an auto sync broke it
[21:18] <seb128> toolchain didn't change recently I think
[21:18] <seb128> oh, a robert_ancell
[21:19] <robert_ancell> seb128, I think the assumption that we can just autolayer Ubuntu on top of Debian and everything will magically work broke it
[21:19] <Sarvatt> seb128: is there some way a core-dev can trigger a sync without filling a bug? it was uploaded to debian about an hour ago and might be able to be synced now
[21:20] <Sarvatt> still too new to requestsync it, been trying
[21:20] <seb128> robert_ancell, yeah, that's because we have an incompatible toolchain with them, which is a bit of an issue
[21:20] <stgraber> Sarvatt: syncpackage -d sid -r quantal <package>
[21:20] <seb128> Sarvatt, it can't be officially synced if not published I think
[21:20] <stgraber> Sarvatt: though LP usually needs much more than an hour to notice the new package in Debian
[21:20] <seb128> i.e the tools don't look to incoming
[21:21] <seb128> debian publisher doesn't run as often that the Debian one, like twice a day
[21:22] <seb128> robert_ancell, so yeah, my lightdm issue was the "logging in..." greeter stuff
[21:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, should we wait for other fixes to SRU or just get one for that one?
[21:23] <robert_ancell> seb128, is it very widespread?  I'm surprised it's only shown post release
[21:23] <robert_ancell> I'd say release immediately
[21:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, mterry: the bug is annoying enough that I would prefer to not wait post UDS to SRU it
[21:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, dunno, we got a few duplicates and a few people mentioning it on IRC, and I and pitti did hit it
[21:23] <mterry> agreed
[21:24] <seb128> robert_ancell, i.e that's enough people around that I guess that lot of users will hit it, though for some reason it doesn't happen on first login and not everybody user multiple users or log out and in again
[21:24] <seb128> well anyway
[21:25] <seb128> mterry, please SRU it, thanks ;-)
[21:25] <seb128> I can verify the SRU once it's in
[21:25] <mterry> robert_ancell, did you have anything else you wanted to squeeze into this SRU?
[21:25] <robert_ancell> mterry, no
[21:25] <mterry> robert_ancell, OK, will package it up
[21:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, btw you don't have any idea about the multimonitor greeter handling not working until you connect,disconnect a monitor?
[21:26] <dobey> robert_ancell: squeeze some love into it.
[21:26] <robert_ancell> dobey, creepy
[21:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, i.e it goes on mirror mode on boot
[21:26] <dobey> heh
[21:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, if that's an easy fix it would be nice to sneak that in as well, multimonitor is cool when it works ;-)
[21:27] <robert_ancell> seb128, no, it probably needs an Xpert to look at that one.  I know mirror mode is the default, though I don't know why g-s-d doesn't override that when it starts
[21:27] <robert_ancell> perhaps we have to kick g-s-d?
[21:27] <seb128> robert_ancell, I though we didn't enable xrandr in unity-greeter?
[21:28] <seb128> oh, no, it's in the enabled list
[21:28] <robert_ancell> seb128, yeah
[21:28] <seb128> so yeah, maybe that's the issue
[22:06] <mterry> jasoncwarner_, ping, you around?
[22:06] <mterry> jasoncwarner_, want you to try a fix for the log in issue
[22:06] <mterry> jasoncwarner_, enable http://launchpad.net/~mterry/+archive/ppa2 and let me know
[22:32] <mterry> seb128, fyi, I'm waiting on user responses before uploading the SRU
[22:32] <seb128> mterry, screw users!
[22:32] <seb128> ;-)
[22:32] <seb128> mterry, what you mean there is that you don't trust me right?
[22:32] <kenvandine> mterry, don't answer that... it's a trap :)
[22:33] <mterry> I suspect they are just amd64 users (forgot that hadn't built yet when I sent them there)
[22:35] <seb128> mterry, I did comment pointing that a bit earlier
[22:36] <mterry> yup, want to see what they say
[22:55] <RAOF> robert_ancell: I was wondering why you were up so early.  But you're now all the way over *there*, aren't you!
[22:55] <robert_ancell> RAOF, yep
[22:57] <TheMuso> lol


[17:09] <mardy> how should a driver report the screen orientation (that is, which of the 4 sides is currently at the bottom)?
[17:09] <mardy> via the input subsystem, or with some file in /proc?
[20:12] <eagles0513875> hey apw
[20:25] <apw> eagles0513875, s'up
[20:25] <eagles0513875> nm
[20:25] <eagles0513875> has the 2.6.38-9 kernel been released for natty?
[20:29] <apw> eagles0513875, its only in -proposed, so depends how you define released
[20:31] <eagles0513875> released as in updat


[03:10] <machozi> Can I commission OS to client machines? I have an environment mixed with Windows 8-10 users and Ubuntu 14 users
[03:10] <machozi> Using Maas
[10:01] <mup> Bug #1684070 opened: [Subnets page, UX Improvement] Present the utilisation summary in a graphic way (per Pod-Storage design) <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684070>
[10:17] <mup> Bug #1684074 opened: [2.2.0rc2, Pods, Improvement] When I am in the process of adding the first Pod, the empty state is replaced by the table headers. <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684074>
[11:03] <mup> Bug #1684085 opened: [2.2.0rc2, Accessibility] In the networking part of MAAS the forms are not A-level accessible <accessibility> <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684085>
[11:33] <mup> Bug #1684094 opened: [2.2.0rc2, UI, Subnets] Make the contextual menu language consistent across MAAS <ui> <ux-qa-2.2> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684094>
[13:09] <mup> Bug #1652645 changed: [2.1.2] Multiple Servers allocated but does not go to deploying state <cdo-qa-blocker> <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652645>
[13:09] <mup> Bug #1659891 changed: Trusty deploy fails, with unrecognised disk label, on nodes commissioned with Xenial <cdo-qa-blocker> <cdoqa> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659891>
[13:09] <mup> Bug #1671651 changed: [2.2 beta3] multiple machines allocated and do not transition to Deploying <cdo-qa-blocker> <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1671651>
[13:09] <mup> Bug #1684111 opened: MaaS assigns static IP addresses from dynamic range <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684111>
[13:39] <mup> Bug #1683874 changed: Unable to deploy with different kernel <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1683874>
[13:55] <kiko> alanmeadows!
[14:16] <mup> Bug #1684131 opened: [2.2.0rc2, Subnets] In subnet details in the reserved table, there is no spacing between the buttons Reserve range and Reserve dynamic range <ui> <ux-qa-2.2> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684131>
[14:16] <mup> Bug #1684136 opened: [2.2.0rc2, UI, DNS] The page header in the domain details page doesn't follow the pattern styling <ui> <ux-qa-2.2> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684136>
[14:16] <mup> Bug #1684137 opened: 2.2 current daily build warns of IP exhaustion <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684137>
[14:46] <mup> Bug #1684140 opened: [2.2.0rc2, Subnets, UX Improvement] Introduce a secondary nav in the subnet details page <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684140>
[15:16] <mup> Bug #1684157 opened: 2.2 daily allows me to select BOTH secure erase and quick (insecure) erase when releasing a node <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684157>
[16:16] <mup> Bug #1684216 opened: [2.2.0rc2, UX Improvement, Images] Change the button copy from Save selection to Update image selection <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684216>
[17:31] <mup> Bug #1668957 changed: [2.1] maas API 2.0 - link_subnet give error when linking subnet on a different VLAN <oil> <MAAS:Incomplete by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668957>
[17:46] <mup> Bug #1668957 opened: [2.1] maas API 2.0 - link_subnet give error when linking subnet on a different VLAN <oil> <MAAS:Incomplete by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668957>
[17:55] <mup> Bug #1668957 changed: [2.1] maas API 2.0 - link_subnet give error when linking subnet on a different VLAN <oil> <MAAS:Incomplete by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668957>
[18:01] <mup> Bug #1684137 changed: 2.2 current daily build warns of IP exhaustion <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684137>
[19:21] <ThiagoCMC> Hey guys... Under MaaS Next (fully upgraded and recently installed), my PXE subnet have 0% "Available IPs"! But the subnet is a /23 and I only have 11 baremetal servers! How to clean it up?
[19:22] <kiko> ThiagoCMC, hmm, good question
[19:22] <ThiagoCMC> Never mind... Figured it out!
[19:22] <ThiagoCMC> :-P
[19:22] <kiko> ThiagoCMC, what was it?
[19:23] <ThiagoCMC> It was reserved for some reason...
[19:23] <ThiagoCMC> I don't remember to reserve this manually
[19:25] <sfeole> I want to commission some nodes with the zesty image or hwe-z kernel,  is that possible right now with maas 2.1.3 ?
[21:20] <ThiagoCMC> How to add an "A" entry using MaaS CLI? I'm trying: "maas admin dnsresource-records create name=eno1.400.ultra-mega domain=company cloud rrtype=A rrdata=<IP_ADDRESS>"
[21:20] <ThiagoCMC> but the error appear: {"rrtype": ["A is not one of TXT NS SSHFP CNAME MX SRV."]}
[21:20] <ThiagoCMC> It is not possible to add "Type A" entries to MaaS' DNS?
[21:20] <matias_> Hi everyone! I'm playing along with maas and dns services. I created a new domain and declared some A records using MAAS CLI. Everything was added in the right way. However I started to see on the regiond logs the following message: "twisted.internet.error.InvalidAddressError: ('localhost', 'write() only accepts IP addresses, not hostnames')"
[21:21] <matias_> can somebody guide me what should I see?
[21:22] <matias_> ThiagoCMC: maas admin dnsresources create fqdn=eno1.400.ultra-mega.company ip_addresses=<ip_address>
[21:23] <matias_> ThiagoCMC: but before you need to ensure that you have reserved the IP address
[21:23] <ThiagoCMC> Cool! Trying it now... Thing is, those IPs that I need to add, comes from an external DHCP that is not managed by MaaS.
[21:23] <matias_> ThiagoCMC: maas root ipaddresses reserve ip=<ip_address>
[21:24] <matias_> ThiagoCMC: not sure, then. I'd declare that network on the MAAS server... but I don't know if this is a good practice (I'm an user as you)
[21:28] <ThiagoCMC> matias_, thanks for the tips man!
[21:29] <matias_> ThiagoCMC: you're welcome!
[21:29] <ThiagoCMC> :-D
[21:47] <matias_> regarding my error message, is it possible that if I put "nameserver localhost" on my /etc/resolv.conf on rack controller I could have the error message: twisted.internet.error.InvalidAddressError: ('localhost', 'write() only accepts IP addresses, not hostnames')"
[22:40] <mup> Bug #1684157 changed: 2.2 daily allows me to select BOTH secure erase and quick (insecure) erase when releasing a node <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684157>
[22:40] <mup> Bug #1684305 opened: machines read API endpoint giving circular reference error <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684305>
[23:10] <mup> Bug #1680993 changed: [2.1.3] Ubuntu deployment fails in BIOS/Legacy mode <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1680993>


[05:40] <LinoSP> Hi good evening,  how can I enable the whiskey bar in xfce   (I have Kubuntu and installed xfce4 packets only)
[05:43] <LinoSP> everybody is asleep? ':D
[05:57] <LinoSP> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWBHJmAmZgk   I found the way to setup whisker menu here :)
[14:47] <xubuntu78w> my xubuntu doesn't actually save the state of my works when i hibernate.
[14:47] <Dr_Coke> Oh no
[14:47] <xubuntu78w> As soon as i boot again after hibernate, all my open windows disappear, its a complete fresh restart rather than being a hibernate state
[14:48] <Dr_Coke> Maybe try updating you kernel
[14:48] <xubuntu78w> how do I do it now
[14:49] <Dr_Coke> Go into xfce start menu
[14:49] <Dr_Coke> click settings
[14:49] <Dr_Coke> and scroll down to software updater
[14:49] <Dr_Coke> and click that
[14:49] <Dr_Coke> and update your computer
[14:50] <xubuntu78w> It just show "Already up to date"
[14:50] <Dr_Coke> Oh
[14:50] <Dr_Coke> are you on the kernel 4.4 or 4.8
[14:51] <xubuntu78w> Am a newbie and don't actually know how to find that
[14:51] <Dr_Coke> oh
[14:52] <Dr_Coke> I would say you are on 4.4
[14:53] <Dr_Coke> xubuntu78w,
[14:53] <Dr_Coke> open up the terminal
[14:53] <Dr_Coke> type su
[14:53] <Dr_Coke> then your password
[14:54] <Dr_Coke> then apt-get install synaptic
[14:54] <Dr_Coke> and press y which is for yes to install it
[14:54] <Dr_Coke> and then once that is installed it should be under system in the start menu
[14:54] <Dr_Coke> open it up
[14:54] <Dr_Coke> and type in kernel
[14:55] <Dr_Coke> scroll down to 4.8 and install the headers with it
[14:55] <Dr_Coke> kernel headers
[14:56] <xubuntu78w> okay. let me try it
[14:56] <Dr_Coke> you will need to click the search button on it
[14:56] <Dr_Coke> and type in
[14:57] <Dr_Coke> linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[14:57] <Dr_Coke> and install 4.8.0
[14:57] <Dr_Coke> probably will be <IP_ADDRESS>.17 on the end of
[14:58] <Dr_Coke> it
[14:58] <Dr_Coke> and then reboot your computer
[14:58] <Dr_Coke> oh and install anything else it asks you too with it
[14:58] <Dr_Coke> then reboot
[14:58] <xubuntu78w> Thanks a lot. I will get back if having any other trouble
[14:59] <Dr_Coke> ok
[14:59] <Dr_Coke> I hope that fixes it
[14:59] <Dr_Coke> once you click the box you will need to click apply
[15:00] <Dr_Coke> and just click install then or yes to make changes and then reboot
[15:01] <xubuntu78w> Also I have a problem with USB drives, I can't write into any PENDIRVE. it just shows Destination Read only for all PENDRIVEs I use
[15:04] <xubuntu78w> I already have the linux-generic kernel <IP_ADDRESS>.17 according to synaptic
[15:04] <Dr_Coke> xubuntu78w, the kernel could fix that too
[15:05] <xubuntu78w> Now what should I do
[15:05] <Dr_Coke> but maybe it's because your usb sticks are formatted in ntfs (windows partition)
[15:05] <Dr_Coke> just installed the kernel and reboot
[15:05] <Dr_Coke> just install the kernel and reboot i mena
[15:05] <Dr_Coke> mean
[15:05] <xubuntu78w> Okay
[21:01] <rhombus> I am trying to install packages from a third-party repository, and even though I have added it and done sudo apt update, the packages are not showing up.
[21:01] <rhombus> What do I need to do here?
[22:18] <xangua> What third party repo? Did you run apt update?
[22:19] <krytarik> Left like two hours ago.
[22:19] <krytarik> Erm, one.
[22:26] <knome> :)


[06:37] <chesedo> morning all
[16:41] <inetpro> MaNI: https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/14/mozilla-terminates-its-deal-with-yahoo-and-makes-google-the-default-in-firefox-again/
[16:41] <inetpro> clearly a lot of money involved these days
[16:59] <MaNI> heh yeah
[17:12] <superfly> morning inetpro, MaNI
[17:12] <superfly> hey MaNI, how's your solar setup going?
[17:14] <MaNI> hehe, touchy subject. After being assembled in the garden for ages but never making it on the roof it is now temporarily disassembled. Panels are in the garage, frame is on the roof. I just need to find a weekend to put the panels on the frame now
[17:17] <MaNI> probably finally get a spare weekend in december sometime and then it will finally be properly up, just been too busy trying to finish my current work project last few months ;P
[17:32] <superfly> MaNI: I hear you.
[17:33] <superfly> We're definitely going to put solar panels on our house (once we've bought a house)
[17:33] <superfly> And probably catch rain water too.
[17:39] <MaNI> I was looking at the rain water thing but couldn't find a way to justify the cost, so I just installed some simple gray water piping instead, it seemed more sensible as a first step
[20:17] <inetpro> wb theblazehen
[20:18] <inetpro> oh and hi superfly as well even :-)
[20:18] <inetpro> and oom Kilos having the day off again?
[20:21] <superfly> inetpro: he deserves a day off every once in a while
[20:25] <inetpro> haha, looks like it


[14:14] <lousygarua> אי אפשר לעבוד ככה
[17:52] <dn203> hi anybody here?
[19:03] <philipballew> lousygarua, hey, I think I told you, but I got your post card.
[19:03] <philipballew> Thank you a lot.


[00:25] <Chipaca> hi all
[00:25] <Chipaca> i updated precise, and for the first time this cycle, it's completely hosed
[00:26] <pangolin> Congrats!
[00:26] <pangolin> :)
[00:27] <Chipaca> bah. when i say "completely", i mean that none of the sessions work right. lightdm is all white, had to stop it from console. Logged in with the ubuntu gnome session from there, and i don't even have a panel. Logged in with gdm and all the settings are wrong, icons like it's 1998
[00:27] <aBound> Congrats for being on an Alpha. :P
[00:29] <Chipaca> hm.
[00:29]  * Chipaca reads the channel topic, maybe this isn't the right place to look for support for precise?
[00:29] <Chipaca> yep, nothing about smartasses in the topic
[00:29]  * Chipaca glares
[00:31] <aBound> :P
[00:32] <aBound> Chipaca, Looks like the kernel or updates broke the entire system.
[00:33] <aBound> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1916471
[00:33] <aBound> Chipaca, Tried reverting back to the older kernel if it upgraded to a newer kernel?
[00:34] <Chipaca> aBound: AFAIK no kernel this time. Kernel update was during the morning, and worked fine.
[00:34]  * Chipaca reads
[00:35] <Chipaca> aBound: no, the system is running, allows me to log in from the console, starts x, but settings are all off
[00:35] <Chipaca> to the point where unity and unity-2d don't work
[00:37] <aBound> No way to install gnome-shell from a terminal like Ctrl-Alt-F1? I would say reboot and shift to an older kernel if one exist by holding down SHIFT.
[00:39] <aBound> Chipaca, Figures one of the updates killed the distribution.
[00:39] <aBound> More or less there probably won't be any fixes as of yet and more about workarounds.
[01:19] <berdario> Hello: I'll be brief: I'm looking for other people who are organizing/organized an ubuntu jam... I'm asking here because testing of a new version is one of the staples of the ubuntu global jam (as well as being a normal thing for developers on ubuntu)... and so here there may be more interested people than on #ubuntu
[01:24] <micahg> berdario: you might want to look here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[01:26] <berdario> micahg, eh, not helpful :/ there's no discussion in any mailing list about the new global jam :( http://bit.ly/AD0NAe
[01:26] <berdario> there're only 4/5 teams added for the next one... and only 1 or 2 member for each
[01:27] <berdario> I was wondering if maybe it's too early for that
[01:27] <berdario> (I'll just write a mail to my local lug now btw)
[02:05] <sKew^_-> hi
[02:06] <sKew^_-> is burg suported here?
[02:06] <pangolin> Ubuntu doesn't use burg
[02:07] <sKew^_-> pangolin, okey
[02:08] <sKew^_-> cuz i just needed som guidens installing burg cuz of nice bootloaer
[02:42] <Fudge> anyone know why vmware fails installing stuff into the kernel for precise 3.2.0-14
[02:44] <Fudge> well errors from the og say about vmmon not building but thought it may be something kernel related or that vmware doesnt support later kernels with 4.0.1 package
[03:09] <bjsnider> well, kubuntu no longer has a paid lead developer
[03:50] <ksx4system> what's the current kernel of daily LiveCD?
[03:54] <arand> !info linux-image
[03:54] <ksx4system> 3.2? ancient :(
[03:54] <micahg> that was decided at UDS
[03:54]  * ksx4system must get 3.3 daily build
[03:54] <micahg> err, or slightly after
[03:55] <arand> There's always the kernel team PPA
[03:55] <arand> !mainline
[03:55] <ksx4system> ...which I'm using now :) daily 3.3 builds
[03:55] <jbicha> ksx4system: if by ancient, you mean the current stable release, then yes I guess it is
[03:56] <ksx4system> jbicha: anything what's not git based daily build is so damn ancient that even colosseum is brand new when compared
[03:56] <ksx4system> ;)
[03:57] <micahg> umm, precise is still the devel release :)
[03:57] <ksx4system> and that's why it's *not* ancient :)
[04:33] <DanaG> E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[04:33] <DanaG> E: Internal Error, No file name for libgcc1
[04:34] <DanaG> I got the same error with gcc-4.6-base, and had to force-depends purge it and reinstall it.
[04:34] <DanaG> But of course, I can't do that for libc6.
[04:36] <DanaG> hmm, what DOES seem to work: hacking at /var/lib/dpkg/status so it thinks the package isn't installed.  But then I just get the same error on yet another different package.
[04:43] <razorfish> has anyone found a way around this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/905814
[05:15] <DanaG> hah, I did a global sed to replace all "unpacked" with "config-files".
[05:15] <DanaG> Now all the packages redownloaded and seem to be not erroring out.
[05:23] <DanaG> looks like my problem was that I'd disabled multiarch because of aptitude not handling it.
[05:23] <DanaG> or rather, that was a second problem.
[05:52] <skierpage> Running Kubuntu 12.04 alpha 2, my KDE services configuration shows ObexFTP as Running and I have a bluetoothd running. But my computer has no Bluetooth hardware! Seems like this is a config detection bug, how can I research it/where should I file it?
[05:53] <DanaG> argh, dag-blast it, nfs isn't mounting at boot time.
[05:53] <DanaG> oh wait, the virtio nic drivers seem to be MIA.
[05:54] <DanaG> Weird.
[05:54] <skierpage> I bet systemd is smart enough not to run bluetooth ;-)
[05:55] <DanaG> whatever, I'll just switch to e1000e.
[06:14] <DanaG> ah, looks like it didn't run depmod.
[06:22] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/927547 anyone facing this too?
[06:23] <micahg> iceroot: yes, started on 10 for me
[06:23] <micahg> surprisingly, not happening ATM on 11
[06:24] <iceroot> micahg: interresting, i am only facing it on ff11
[06:24] <DanaG> argh, why does aptitude not respond to ctrl-c?
[06:25] <urlin2u> So anybody loose the unity bar on the left of the screen, the OS seems to intact otherwise.
[06:26] <urlin2u> the unity plugin in compiz is ticked on
[06:39] <urlin2u> found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11668097
[06:39] <urlin2u> works now
[08:44] <brendand> anyone know if the edge pressure on the launcher is a brand new thing, or did the pressure just get increased?
[08:44] <brendand> i find it works better set at 10
[08:44] <brendand> default is 15
[14:01] <yofel> oh cool, kernel 3.2.5 (mainline) has some ASPM rework :)
[14:13] <yofel> hm, seems our kernel already has that
[14:13] <yofel> good too
[14:33] <addy852> hello please tell me how to run movie in ubuntu11
[14:33] <addy852> ubuntu 11\
[14:50] <Deithrian> Hello! I have some troubles with Kubuntu 12.04.I can't install Japanese for iBus, can't find ibus-anthy in the software center, NumLock doesn't remember it's status, have to press it after every reboot.
[14:50] <Deithrian> Can someone help?
[14:50] <Deithrian> *its
[14:53] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:02] <FernandoMiguel> hey BluesKaj
[15:03] <BluesKaj> hi FernandoMiguel
[16:15] <JanHolbo> Hi all!
[16:15] <JanHolbo> ?hud
[16:16] <JanHolbo> does anybody know when the hud will be back?
[16:37] <dlentz> Can someone confirm a bug for me?
[16:37] <dlentz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox-ubuntuone/+bug/928317
[16:38] <dlentz> nvm, it's been picked up by adev
[16:40] <jcook_5xdata> anyone know of a hack yet to remove the launcher on the second screen for multi monitor setup
[17:12] <jenablinsky> hey guys
[17:12] <jenablinsky> i have a problem with the installer of precise pargolin a2 x86
[17:15] <jenablinsky> is there someone who can help me?
[17:29] <yofel> !anyone | jenablinsky
[17:37] <jenablinsky> !details
[17:40] <dlentz> jenablinsky, ?
[17:41] <JanHolbo> does anybody know when the hud will be back?
[17:43] <JanHolbo> I lost it when unity 5.2 went out in the Alpha ...   had previuosly installed the Unity team's 5.1 with HUD from the team PPA
[17:43] <JanHolbo> !unity
[17:43] <JanHolbo> !hud
[17:44] <JanHolbo> hmmm   not much there
[17:47] <jenablinsky> zampacorta
[18:44] <edgy> Hi, if I lose my resolution every time I reboot kde, how can I trace the problem
[21:00] <oconnore> How do I fix alt-tab after the recent unity update?
[21:15] <saxoBeat> how do i figure out what the problem is related to flashplugin-installer?
[21:23] <saxoBeat> and why is there no "Software Sources" in "System Settings" please?
[21:25] <saxoBeat> wrong questions?
[21:25] <saxoBeat> wrong channel?
[21:33] <pangolin> you want to edit the sorces in Software Center
[21:33] <pangolin> sources*
[21:34] <saxoBeat> well, maybe its a bit too early for somebody like me to switch
[21:35] <pangolin> running an alpha release is not for the faint of heart :)
[21:35] <pangolin> probably best you stick with the latest release
[21:36] <saxoBeat> yeah
[21:39] <saxoBeat> is there no openssh-server package anymore?
[21:40] <pangolin> should be
[21:41] <saxoBeat> says: has no installation candidate
[21:44] <saxoBeat> but also "apt-get update" fails on "main" and "universe"
[21:44] <saxoBeat> oh crap
[21:45] <pabelanger> Evening, just submitted a debdiff for bug 928499.  Fixes a compiling issue with DKMS and DAHDI
[21:47] <yofel> pabelanger: you want to subscribe 'ubuntu-sponsors' to that bug, more help in #ubuntu-motu
[21:49] <pabelanger> yofel, ah yes, seem to forget about that
[22:40] <eitch> hi guys. what is the status on adding a screen saver back to ubuntu?
[22:49] <h00k> ubottu: crosspost | eitch
[22:51] <eitch> h00k, ok. just no answer was given so i thought i'd ask in the channel with more people


[00:18] <ali1234> does virtualbox support pci passthrough on linux?
[05:17] <mappps> HI ALL
[05:17] <mappps> oops
[05:37] <diddledan> I really should sleep this week
[05:40] <mappps> someone get me some ac
[05:40] <mappps> ;[[
[06:10] <knightwise> hey mappps
[06:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:14] <diddledan> allo
[06:16] <brobostigon> hi diddledan
[06:16] <knightwise> hey guyzzz
[06:16] <brobostigon> ey knightwise
[06:16] <mappps> hey knightwise
[06:16] <mappps> ;)
[06:16] <mappps> so hot here again..neeeed ac
[06:18] <knightwise> Cold and windy up here
[06:21] <mappps> its hard to sleep
[06:21] <mappps> due to heat
[06:22] <zmoylan-pi> you are in a hot climate, why don't you have ac?
[06:27] <mappps> it's not standard
[06:27] <mappps> both in spain and here in gib
[06:27] <mappps> most places dont have ac..my friend bought a portable one off amazn..said its great
[06:27] <mappps> and im planning on doing the same too
[06:28] <zmoylan-pi> saw plans for cheap homemade version
[06:31] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.instructables.com/id/Cheap-DIY-Air-Conditioner/ a few hours of cool air...
[06:33] <mappps> nice
[06:35] <zmoylan-pi> not much call for ac in ireland :-)
[06:36] <zmoylan-pi> [Dublin, DUB, Ireland] Condition: Mostly Cloudy | Temp: 11C/52F/284K/511R | Humidity: 88% | Wind Speed 15mph/24kmph
[06:36] <zmoylan-pi> [Gibraltar, Gibraltar] Condition: Fair | Temp: 26C/79F/299K/538R | Humidity: 54% | Wind Speed 9mph/14kmph
[06:37] <mappps> surprising more people dont buy portBLE ac they just suffer
[06:37] <mappps> uh
[06:52] <DJones> Heh https://goo.gl/uvTGTt (Safe for work)
[07:06] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:11] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:14] <MooDoo> how are you supermatt?
[07:18] <SuperMatt> I'm well thanks, you?
[07:30] <MooDoo> yeah good thanks :)
[08:13] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:14] <zmoylan-pi> happy !monday
[08:14] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[08:20] <Knightwork> morning peeps
[08:20] <MooDoo> howdy Knightwork
[08:21] <Knightwork> hey MooDoo ,
[08:21] <Knightwork> how are things goin today
[08:24] <Knightwork>  /join #xps13
[08:29] <MooDoo> Knightwork: yeah ok thanks, just playing about with my storage server
[08:29] <davmor2> MooDoo: Classic from the mamas and the papas this morning :)
[08:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: mostly due to seeing the sky colour this morning :)
[08:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: i've just randomely picked a playlist, don't think i've heard of half the artists
[08:31] <davmor2> MooDoo: that's why you need my morning head song play list in your life, you'll know them all :D
[08:33] <MooDoo> yeah i usually listen to that
[08:33] <Knightwork> I'm going to use bittorrent sync and a raspberry pi to do some offsite backups
[08:36] <Knightwork> been having some issues giving bittorrent sync the correct rights to a mounted external drive
[08:51] <diddledan> is it lunch time yet?
[08:51] <zmoylan-pi> 3 times zones to the east it is
[08:52] <Knightwork> hmmm.. wondering if I can wear this to work ; http://www.amazon.de/Herren-Baumwolle-gemischt-Fashionable-Asymmetric/dp/B00LFBDUQY/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cp_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0288WGZVWCQ6ZZ367BV5
[08:52] <Knightwork> Its on the very fringes of ' a blazer ' but only misses a sonic screwdriver to become a dr who outfit
[08:53] <zmoylan-pi> definitely from the sci fi end of the wardrobe
[08:53] <zmoylan-pi> more a baddie leader of the week though
[08:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Milk Chocolate Day! 😃
[08:55] <zmoylan-pi> because all those red bulls weren't enough reason to cut your foot off
[08:56] <Knightwork> zmoylan-pi: it is rather special indeed
[08:57] <Knightwork> I have this one though. http://www.amazon.de/Keral-Beil%C3%A4ufiger-Unregelm%C3%A4%C3%9Figer-Clipping-Kn%C3%B6pfe/dp/B00RHIWHHW/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_cp_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0N4APZ792AB67C1NNHGZ
[08:57] <diddledan> JamesTait: now that's a day I can get behind!
[09:07] <davmor2> JamesTait: http://rlv.zcache.com/the_perfect_week_eat_chocolate_funny_gift_v01_foremostcountdownbox-r3fe488890bbf4d918cdcc4408b59d019_z8lbw_324.jpg?rlvnet=1
[09:07]  * JamesTait wholeheartedly approves
[09:07]  * Knightwork doesnt like chocolate
[09:08] <davmor2> Knightwork: Get out of here, get out now ;)
[09:09] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GkwIRbLw8
[09:09]  * JamesTait nabs Knightwork's chocolate.
[09:09] <davmor2> Knightwork: that is nearly as bad as saying you don't like cats
[09:09] <Knightwork> I'm Belgian .. i should LOVE chocolate
[09:10] <Knightwork> davmor2: i'm a dog person (but we do have a cat)
[09:10] <Knightwork> https://www.flickr.com/photos/knightwise/20047250625/
[09:10]  * Knightwork has a Doge
[09:14] <JamesTait> davmor2, https://youtu.be/3sV6DjrYdr8?t=26s
[09:22] <diddledan> Knightwork: that's a propper doge doge, too
[09:23] <davmor2> JamesTait: there is something wrong with you isn't there ;)
[09:23] <JamesTait> davmor2, nothing a holiday won't cure. Probably.
[09:24] <Knightwork> diddledan: yep . she is shedding right now , that is why she looks a little thin
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> roll on winter
[09:26] <Knightwork> yep .. you won't believe the amount of fur they shedd
[09:26] <diddledan> JamesTait: davmor2: it took me 2 minutes of watching that before I realised it was eating my brain
[09:27] <davmor2> diddledan: no it wasn't it was eating choco choco latte
[09:27] <diddledan> I'm gonna have that in my head all day now
[09:27] <diddledan> davmor2: find it on spotify and add it to the morning-head list :-p
[09:28] <diddledan> but seriously, there should be health warnings on that
[09:29] <davmor2> diddledan: mamas and papas this morning is still protecting me from it, might be different in the morning
[09:33] <davmor2> Knightwork: My moneys still on this cat https://photos.google.com/u/0/photo/AF1QipOydiJj0fBPv7ITkOoFw7V-J3opUWmGR85zCl8j ;)
[09:33] <Knightwork> dav, bad link
[09:34] <davmor2> Knightwork: https://goo.gl/photos/MNRYdjNkxyiugR9d8 try that
[09:35] <Knightwork> davmor2: if that is your cat it explains the state of your face
[09:36] <davmor2> Knightwork: No it's one of the cats I sponsor can't really have pets here
[09:39]  * zmoylan-pi makes do with landlords cats and loads of ferals around
[10:18] <cocoa117> is there a way to appear to be login to a mchine through SSH and background the  process? E.g. the w would show you login?
[10:18] <davmor2> we see lots of pets at the caravan park at the weekend :)
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> seems cruel for the cats... :-)
[10:33] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:35] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: they love it, and the tortoises and the rabbits as well as the dogs
[10:38] <Myrtti> cocoa117: sure, hold on
[10:38] <davmor2> morning bigcalm
[10:38] <bigcalm> o/
[10:39] <cocoa117> Myrtti, :)
[10:39] <davmor2> bigcalm: what's your opinion on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYluMAO1b7Y
[10:40] <bigcalm> davmor2: no real opinion. Not in the mood for that type of music right now.
[10:40] <davmor2> bigcalm: try this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFMEeftF78
[10:41] <Myrtti> cocoa117: -f
[10:42] <Myrtti> cocoa117: man ssh row 113 (-N and -n) might be useful too
[11:10] <davmor2> anybody else here really want to hear Kate Bush re sing running up that hill but with the placibo music
[11:11] <mgdm> I'd rather not hear Kate Bush sing at all
[11:13] <zmoylan-pi> she had a few good tunes
[11:14] <diddledan> yey for long-running processes - I've just started a job which should only take about 20 hours to complete
[11:14] <diddledan> splecifically I'm doing some geocoding
[11:15] <diddledan> I've put artificial delays of ~30 seconds between each attempt so as to hopefully not fall foul of google's api limits
[11:17] <zmoylan-pi> hee, did that when i wrote an sms server way back :-) too many sms and the number would be blocked automatically
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> never mind it was from a company account going to only numbers also on the same account.  engineers been sent tasks and info relating to those tasks, originally by pager and then sms
[11:57] <Laney> ruddy ninja carding
[11:57] <Laney> I had the radio on so he could have heard I was in
[11:58] <Myrtti> ninja postman?
[12:01] <Laney> indeed
[12:01] <TwistedLucidity> Laney: Royal Mail rarely delivers parcels these days. It's more efficient for them to post the card and have to slog out to the sorting office
[12:01] <Laney> also the royal mail's redelivery form helpfully goes back a stage (losing all the entered data) if you press 'enter'
[12:01] <czajkowski> ugh
[12:01] <Laney> TwistedLucidity: this is supposed to be a perk of working from home!
[12:02] <TwistedLucidity> Laney: But you have so much time to drive to the sorting office!
[12:02] <Laney> PSH, PSH I SAY
[12:02] <TwistedLucidity> I find DPD to be the best.  :-D
[12:09] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: Convince them to install a catapult for "short range airmail"
[12:10] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: Does this work? https://ship.parcelforce.net/intro
[12:10] <Laney> davmor2: there's got to be an upside to living in Wolverhampton :)
[12:10] <zmoylan-pi> there used to be a pigeon post for delivering drugs around wwi iirc
[12:11] <zmoylan-pi> appears to work TwistedLucidity, no errors this time
[12:27] <awilkins> Is there a pomodoro timer app that DOESN'T require me to install the whole of GNOME shell? (searched for "pomodoro" and "tomato" in Synaptic, got a tomato smashing game and gnome-shell-timer which needs GNOME shell...)
[12:27]  * awilkins contemplates whether Hamster can be hacked into doing this
[12:38] <davmor2> Laney: there are lots, Brewery, Pies, Parks, Canals, Theatre, Music Venues, Football, the list goes on :)
[13:03] <czajkowski> oh someone said pie
[13:03] <czajkowski> yes please
[13:03] <czajkowski> send some this way!
[13:04] <brobostigon> :D
[13:07] <bigcalm> Lemon meringue pie with clotted cream
[13:34] <davmor2> czajkowski: desperate dan Cowpie
[13:35] <czajkowski> food for thought : http://themetapicture.com/oranges-fire-and-deliciousness/
[13:37] <davmor2> czajkowski: http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g187065-d1077385-r145177626-Mad_O_Rourkes_Pie_Factory-Dudley_West_Midlands_England.html
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> czajkowski: That is an awesome idea.
[13:48] <TwistedLucidity> The orange-cake thing
[13:49] <czajkowski> yup it so is
[13:50] <czajkowski> popey: something you may like to make with the kids
[13:53] <davmor2> popey: no don't listen to czajkowski making it out of kids wouldn't be half as tasty
[13:55] <daftykins> i nearly made a comment about child cookies
[13:56] <popey> ooh, i could cook those in my chiminea
[13:56] <arsenip> that looks tasssssty
[13:56] <arsenip> wonder if i can bbq that
[13:56] <arsenip> spose i can
[13:56] <czajkowski> see good  food :)
[13:58] <mgdm> popey: you can cook things in a chiminea?
[13:59] <popey> mgdm: follow that link
[13:59] <popey> 14:35 < czajkowski> food for thought : http://themetapicture.com/oranges-fire-and-deliciousness/
[13:59] <mgdm> popey: ooh, cunning
[13:59] <czajkowski> yumy
[13:59] <mgdm> yet another reason to get one when I finish the garden upgrade
[14:01] <popey> i got a small cheap one from amazon
[14:01] <popey> tis fun
[14:22] <ujjain> How do I find out when this file was deleted? logstash- 30786 syslog   13r   REG              252,0   382880  9175043 /var/log/server.log10846712457531125.tmp (deleted)
[16:06] <daftykins> ouch, i just phoned up Shure about my earphones to see what it'd cost for repair
[16:07] <daftykins> no option at all, have to send mine in and essentially buy the new model at a 25% discount
[16:07] <daftykins> still comes out at £208 delivered
[16:33] <foobarry> oof
[16:35] <bigcalm> yrrab
[16:38] <daftykins> XD
[16:55] <popey> pip pip
[17:19] <foobarry> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/
[17:19] <foobarry> hmm
[17:33] <daftykins> foobarry: nice
[17:35] <awilkins> foobarry, Otherwise known as "Holy **** don't buy a Seagate"
[17:36] <shauno> it doesn't look too bad for 4tb drives.  but the 3tb were famous
[17:38] <daftykins> i don't like Seagate anyway, their SMART data increments 'error' values when everything is fine - making it harder to notice something is up
[17:40] <shauno> I tend to avoid them, except in laptops.  no-one else seems to be doing 2tb in 2.5" yet
[17:41] <daftykins> mechanical :(
[17:41] <daftykins> ah well, 3D V-NAND will save us all ;)
[17:41] <daftykins> those new samsungs aren't bad, £750 odd for a 2TB SSD
[17:41] <daftykins> that'll only keep coming down
[17:42] <shauno> yeah.  nice to know they're there, but still a little too rich to be throwing at a 5yo laptop.  so I still have one of each
[17:42] <awilkins> mSATA + Spinny Rust is a very nice combo if you do one of the caching things
[17:43] <daftykins> i'd bet even without, if you keep the right stuff on the SSD
[17:43] <shauno> I just keep them seperate.  most the stuff I use in bulk storage I know I don't need anyway.  stuff like photos, music, etc
[17:43] <awilkins> That probably also works well
[17:44] <shauno> actually just ordered one of those hp microservers so I can start keeping them somewhere more sensible :)
[17:45] <daftykins> network storage \o/
[17:45] <awilkins> NAS box
[17:47] <daftykins> i wouldn't really call it one if it's a full setup like a desktop essentially
[17:48] <shauno> (with WD reds)
[17:48] <daftykins> heh i've got a proper appliance one somewhere that keeps telling me it has OS updates available, but it's not something i'm gonna ride the opposite end of the island to hit 'update' on
[17:48] <daftykins> WD reds \o/
[17:48] <daftykins> shauno: don't forget the little vouchers that give you an extra year warranty
[17:48] <daftykins> they're like a couple of quid each
[17:48] <daftykins> well worth it
[17:52] <davmor2> daftykins: cycle pfff isn't that what ssh is for
[17:53] <daftykins> not to someones house with no Linux systems o0
[17:53] <shauno> windows is getting ssh in 10 ;)
[17:53] <daftykins> they also don't run Windows!
[17:54] <shauno> it's already in osx?
[17:54] <daftykins> yeah but i'm not gonna setup SSH on someones MBP at home
[17:54] <daftykins> and a dynamic DNS and... and...
[17:54] <daftykins> :P
[17:55] <shauno> yeah, who would do that
[17:56] <shauno> actually, I coulda swore there was a way to get vnc to connect back to front
[17:58] <daftykins> yeah i used to mess with that, but meh
[17:58] <daftykins> i feel wrong about charging someone to hit update :)
[17:58] <daftykins> so i don't feel hugely inclined to
[18:00] <daftykins> shauno: are you seriously saying you'd set that up just to do future maintenance?
[18:00] <zmoylan-pi> where would ms or apple be with that attutude?? :-)
[18:00] <daftykins> you missed out Linux distros, they're not immune
[18:02] <shauno> I used to, but then I charged them travel time too so remote saved them billables too
[18:04] <daftykins> i don't think it's right to open that up on someones machine after only doing one job
[18:04] <daftykins> regular client? sure
[18:05] <daftykins> office users? sure. home user like this one? nope
[18:05] <shauno> yeah, that's why the reverse-vnc was a second thought.  because that leaves the 'open' on your side
[18:05] <daftykins> mmm, i think aero wasn't working too well with it
[18:06] <daftykins> i moved to playing with teamviewer a bit ago, but not tried that with macs yet
[18:06] <daftykins> actually that reminds me - this lady had ubuntu but moved to mac
[18:07] <shauno> also, my only 'regular' kept everything onsite, mail & all, so ssh was the least of their worries
[18:40] <ali1234> how do i format a 4TB drive in linux?
[18:40] <ali1234> i can't go above 2.2TB with fdisk apparently
[18:42] <daftykins> gdisk ?
[18:43] <daftykins> can't even remember what i wrote a GPT as onto a RAID, now
[18:43] <daftykins> what i wrote it with, that is
[19:12] <davmor2> ali1234: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html
[19:12] <daftykins> oh yeah parted
[19:12] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[19:12] <ali1234> so in other words i need to use GPT?
[19:13] <daftykins> yes
[19:13] <ali1234> okay, i see
[20:49] <directhex> MBR partition format cannot address numbers above 2T
[20:49] <directhex> booting from GPT on BIOS is doable with linux, but not windows
[20:50] <daftykins> hmm
[20:58] <mapito> 3 apartments to viw
[20:58] <mapito> 1 bed atlantic suites £1200 extra for pool LOL
[20:58] <mapito> 1 bed euro towers £1150 and 1 bed water gardens £1050
[20:58] <mapito> bargains eh?
[21:01] <daftykins> o0
[21:33] <ali1234> directhex: i don't need to boot, it's an external USB drive
[21:33] <directhex> then gpt is fine
[21:34] <ali1234> any thoughts on filesystem format?
[21:34] <ali1234> just EXT4?
[21:36] <daftykins> what's the data that'll go on it?
[21:36] <daftykins> certainly no harm in keeping it simple with ext4
[21:37] <ali1234> literally everything
[21:37] <daftykins> backup? mmm
[21:37] <ali1234> single files that are 20GB, directories with 10k files in them...


[02:57] <Bashing-om> Looks like my ISP has problems. I keep loosing/regaining internet connectivity . Bear with it . Hope it gets straightened out soon !
[03:01] <daftykins> :(
[03:01] <daftykins> we can't be without our Bashing-om
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> morning guys :p
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> im wondering why mint does have so many fans...
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu can do all mint does right
[07:54] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hello EriC^^
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> all ok on sundays :p
[07:54] <EriC^^> yeah :P
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> trying to finetune hexchat colours
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> the channels colorizes even on joins
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> i want that only speaks
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> histo: mint has more a windows-like desktop perhaps?
[07:57] <EriC^^> nah, take it this way, mint doesn't autojoin you to #ubuntu when you get on irc
[07:57] <histo> I think all the codecs etc..
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> ah, all the mint guys autojoin here
[07:58] <histo> is more of a pull for users
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but still i read mint is also very popular Os
[07:59] <EriC^^> the idea is that some people liked ubuntu but didn't like the extra stuff
[07:59] <EriC^^> so they stripped those out and made mint, i guess
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> ah i see
[08:00] <EriC^^> the self-respecting mint users won't join #ubuntu for advice
[08:01] <EriC^^> or whatever
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> so we stuck with the autjoins :p
[08:02] <EriC^^> ubuntu is basically debian but with more stuff
[08:02] <EriC^^> then mint is basically ubuntu with less stuff
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> less isnt always more
[08:04] <EriC^^> yeah it depends what rocks your boat i guess
[08:04] <EriC^^> some people don't want any kind of bloat
[08:04] <EriC^^> and babying too, the idea is that mint offers a more linux'y experience i guess
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> right
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> i like ubuntu the best
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> played with redhat/mandriva/opensuse in the past
[08:08] <EriC^^> yeah ubuntu is nice
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> and unity is pretty intuitive once you get used to it
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> i hope dash gets really lightweight in the future
[08:10] <EriC^^> yeah unity is nice and looks good
[08:10] <EriC^^> and i think it's pretty practical
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> yeah, even older users find their way tru
[08:11] <EriC^^> granted it's less practical than other desktops, like xfce has the "keep window behind others" and not just always on top
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> you cant click nothing wrong almost
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> true
[08:11] <EriC^^> and some other stuff, but you can make unity more practical, like installing the open-in-terminal extension for nautilus
[08:11] <EriC^^> that's really useful
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> thats already for the more epxerienced user ofcourse
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> i installed ubuntu for many ppl that use only GUI
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: morning, join tha club!
[08:14] <OerHeks> Morning :-)
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you know howto not colorize channels on joins/parts
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: i want only channel tabs light up, when talking
[08:14] <OerHeks> those colours are ugly indeed, no, those settings are poor :-(
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: i have to hide joins/parts to get rid of it then?
[08:15] <OerHeks> yes, i guess so
[08:15] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: in xchat there's settings > preferences > colors
[08:15] <EriC^^> i guess it's the New data one
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i went to the dark side remember :p
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> hex
[08:15] <EriC^^> it has the same color as what lights up on joins/parts/etc.
[08:15] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: should be similar, check it out
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> im gonna hide joins/parts its ok
[08:18] <OerHeks> there is a HCT file with old values https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/682
[08:19] <OerHeks> carefull, it overrides that standard files...
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> i like the hex colors
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> but just dont wanna click a tab, anytime a user joins
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> so ill disable it for the largest channels its ok
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks, EriC^^ http://i.imgur.com/QKMwpya.png
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> fine like this :p
[08:26]  * histo uses weechat
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !info weechat
[08:26] <histo> lol 72kb
[08:27] <EriC^^> package size 2kb
[08:27] <EriC^^> !info irssi
[08:28] <OerHeks> What a drag :-D
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/?section=&global=1&q=weechat
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> lookin neat
[08:29] <EriC^^> looks good
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> nothing can beat linux originality desktops :p
[08:29] <EriC^^> what's that mp3 player
[08:29] <EriC^^> http://www.deviantart.com/art/New-Year-344675712
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: at the right bottom under?
[08:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> minimal stuff :p
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> !info Ncmpcpp
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> got it
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> !info dwm
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> we all have what this guy has
[08:32] <EriC^^> how do i run it? Couldn't connect to MPD (host = localhost, port = 6600): Connection refused
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> !find mpd
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> !info snmpd
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> not sure how it works
[08:35] <EriC^^> i installed moc, seems to work, colors suck though
[08:35] <EriC^^> !info moc
[08:37] <lotuspsychje_> oO
[08:46] <lotuspsychje_> !info mpd
[08:47] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: maybe this1 + Ncmpcpp
[08:47] <EriC^^> it installed libmpdclient2
[08:47] <EriC^^> maybe i need to restart that or something?
[08:48] <lotuspsychje_> yeah maybe as deamon needs restart
[08:49] <EriC^^> i tried to restart nmpd still refusing
[08:49] <EriC^^> i installed moc though, it's nice, needed some colors fixing
[08:49] <lotuspsychje_> nice
[08:49] <EriC^^> still the other one is sick though, maybe it'll work later some how
[08:52] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje_: it works! installed mpd and it runs now, thanks :>
[08:53] <lotuspsychje_> aha
[08:53] <lotuspsychje_> cool stuff
[08:53] <lotuspsychje_> such nice user desktops on deviant mm
[08:54] <EriC^^> something is still broke though, says can't set volume and i can't browse for the music
[08:54] <EriC^^> yeah good stuff on devianart
[08:55] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: you need to edit music folder manually perhaps?
[08:56] <EriC^^> it's worse than vim
[08:56] <EriC^^> lol
[08:56] <lotuspsychje_> loool
[08:56] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: you need to start that from terminal?
[08:56] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:57] <lotuspsychje_> maybe man mpd shows usefull stuff?
[09:00] <EriC^^> wow i think i need to put the music in a dir outside
[09:01] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[09:01] <EriC^^> Starting Music Player Daemon mpd                                             mapper: Failed to stat directory "/home/e/Music": Permission denied
[09:01] <lotuspsychje_> hmm
[09:01] <EriC^^> you have to give it where the music is first
[09:01] <EriC^^> i think it's for like a home music server or something
[09:01] <EriC^^> :D
[09:01] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: http://ncmpcpp.rybczak.net/faq.php
[09:02] <lotuspsychje_> A: Make sure that path to your MPD music dir in ncmpcpp configuration file is set properly.
[09:08] <EriC^^> ok i followed this guide http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/simple-guide-to-set-up-mpd-with-ncmpcpp.html
[09:09] <EriC^^> got it almost working, just not showing all the mp3
[09:09] <histo> lotuspsychje_: auto spell check?
[09:09] <histo> I was fixing mine
[09:09] <lotuspsychje_> ah :p:p
[09:10] <lotuspsychje_> histo: my bad, had to scroll up :p
[09:10] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: many manual stuff on that guide lol
[09:10] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: you choose the right player haha
[09:11] <EriC^^> moc is nice it just installed and played straight away, but the columns in the middle suck
[09:11] <lotuspsychje_> i loved amarok in the past
[09:12] <EriC^^> this is harder than setting up a webserver or something wth
[09:12] <EriC^^> lol i cant get it work
[09:12] <lotuspsychje_> wahaha
[09:12] <EriC^^> ok, all the music is showing now i think
[09:12] <lotuspsychje_> EriC^^: you have joined #mpd yayyy
[09:12] <EriC^^> i think it just had to go over them or something
[09:13] <lotuspsychje_> a lot of fans like it the hard way
[09:13] <EriC^^> sweet you can use the mouse to click on them
[09:13] <EriC^^> nah it looked kind of nice in that screen shot
[09:13] <lotuspsychje_> yeah like that stuff too
[09:14] <EriC^^> hmm?
[09:14] <EriC^^> i didn't join #mpd
[09:14] <lotuspsychje_> i did
[09:14] <EriC^^> oh ok
[09:16] <EriC^^> it has a sick clock screen
[09:16] <lotuspsychje_> clock inside the player?
[09:16] <EriC^^> yeah, shows a huge clock in the terminal and the playing music at the bottom
[09:17] <histo> I use moc
[09:17] <lotuspsychje_> !info moc
[09:17] <histo> !info mocp
[09:17] <lotuspsychje_> cool!
[09:17] <EriC^^> i liked moc, i'll probably use it, it's more practical than having a single dir for music and whatever
[09:17] <histo> yeah check out the themes
[09:18] <lotuspsychje_> histo: feel free to share your desktop :p
[09:18]  * lotuspsychje_ is always curious about users desktops
[09:19] <histo> http://i.imgur.com/3t0zMN7.jpg
[09:20] <lotuspsychje_> nice your on arch
[09:20] <lotuspsychje_> helping with ubuntu support :p
[09:21] <histo> Yeah arch, here's desktop without guake dropped down http://i.imgur.com/ki2z9BP.jpg
[09:21] <lotuspsychje_> histo: nice1 is that conky right upper corner?
[09:22] <histo> XFCE4 with just a panel at the bottom, conky gotham theme, whisker menu on the panel. But I use keybaord shortcuts for everything.
[09:22] <histo> lotuspsychje_: yeah gotham theme
[09:22] <lotuspsychje_> cool
[09:22] <histo> http://mmesantos1.deviantart.com/art/Gotham-Conky-Mod-321918251
[09:23] <lotuspsychje_> histo: feel like my old ubuntu desktop on gnome classic
[09:23] <histo> I switch between xfce and i3 all the time. I boot to console and have i3 in my xinit but I can still use startxfce4 to get in xfce if need be.
[09:24] <lotuspsychje_> i3 has big channel fans
[09:24] <histo> Yeah I'm still helping in #ubuntu.  I started with ubuntu and still help people there also helps me keep in touch with what is going on with it. I have people I've gotten switched to linux using it.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje_> great purpose
[09:25] <histo> i3 is nice if you hate grabbing a mouse or a toucpad.
[09:25]  * histo vi bindings for everything.
[09:26] <lotuspsychje_> only keyboard
[09:26] <lotuspsychje_> anyway cheers and nice sundays to all
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all


[01:10] <DarwinSurvivor> BotenAnna: do you possibly have secure-boot enabled?
[01:12] <BotenAnna> DarwinSurvivor: don't THINK so but it's not impossible. it'd be in the BIOS options, right?
[01:13] <DarwinSurvivor> well, (U)EFI options, but basically the same thing, yes (EFI replaces BIOS on new systems)
[01:14] <DarwinSurvivor> so yes, that's where you should look
[01:15] <BotenAnna> it does have UEFI/LEgcay Boot "Both" on
[01:16] <DarwinSurvivor> try legacy
[01:16] <BotenAnna> yeah thats what im trying
[01:16] <BotenAnna> seems like giving up :X
[01:18] <BotenAnna> ugh even legacy only mode just goes straight into windows
[01:20] <Ultimoore> hello everyone
[01:21] <Ultimoore> anyone here?
[01:24]  * DarwinSurvivor is here
[01:25] <Ultimoore> hi
[12:29] <khoover> DarwinSurvivor, does remote desktop need a definite IP to connect to, over the net? And if so, any good script-ish things for windows that run silent?
[12:30] <khoover> that'll send IP addresses to a DDNS server*
[13:10] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
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[05:11] <Wild_Man> Thanks for the instructions guiverc, sorry I did not make it to help last night, I am very busy and when I did get home I was taking care of my wife
[05:12] <guiverc> Not an issue Wild_Man, it was done when we could.  Yes family comes first
[05:14] <Wild_Man> I was wanting to get the practice of doing it just did not work out
[05:17] <guiverc> well if you noticed ^  I still need practice and I've been doing it how long??  (releases, EOL's etc don't occur very frequently..)
[05:18] <Wild_Man> no they do not
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