[07:29] <DalekSec> I must have hit a good time as staging.launchpad.net is down.  But, I've been wondering the difference between staging.launchpad.net and dogfood.paddev.net.
[07:31] <StevenK> DalekSec: staging is very likely to be performing a database restore from production
[07:32] <DalekSec> Guessed it might be that, considering Saturday.
[10:06] <cjwatson> DalekSec: dogfood.paddev.net is manually maintained by developers; we mostly use it for QA on the archive publisher
[10:07] <cjwatson> DalekSec: qastaging.launchpad.net is probably a better choice if you're just looking for a random sandbox interface that's up
[10:08] <DalekSec> Oh dear, another one.  OK, was just going off the dev.lp.net page, thanks.


[19:10] <erichammond> I am told that this channel is now being logged on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com (by the "ubuntulog" bot).
[19:11] <erichammond> Could somebody with admin rights update the topic to reflect this so that folks entering the channel are less likely to be surprised that their messages to a public channel are public?
[19:14] <erichammond> Hm, perhaps it isn't done in the topic.  I get a separate message when I enter channels like #ubuntu which includes "This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/"
[20:44] <LyricHartley> question: what are you guys doing for smtp? I see some recommendations in the forum for fastmail.fm and authsmtp ...any thoughts
[21:26] <erichammond> LyricHartley: We run a leased server with a clean IP address at a separate ISP and relay outbound email through it.
[21:27] <erichammond> The best depends on a number of factors including the volume of email sent, and the amount of effort you want to put into maintaining the solution.


[12:03] <sil2100> Hello! Looking for some LP API expertise: I would like to get the list of package uploads for a selected uploader, something like we have on the LP UI in the 'Uploaded packages' section of user info
[12:03] <sil2100> Is there some better way than browsing through the whole publishing history and looking for certain people there?
[12:04] <sil2100> I didn't see any API call that could do it per user
[12:07] <cjwatson> I'm not sure what a good approach there would be.  The exact implementation of "Uploaded packages" is difficult to export since it returns a collection of `SourcePackageRelease`s rather than `SourcePackagePublishingHistory`s
[12:08] <cjwatson> Perhaps it should just be another parameter to archive.getPublishedSources
[12:08] <sil2100> That would be useful, since source_package_publishing_history does have all the fields of interest
[12:09] <cjwatson> There are some subtleties there that aren't obvious from the field names; but broadly, yes
[12:10] <cjwatson> I also haven't checked whether we have sufficient indexes to do that query efficiently
[12:48] <sil2100> cjwatson: in that case, maybe a bit unrelated to LP, but do you know of any other easy way I could access to data of which (or actually only how many) developers have been actively doing uploads in the recent x months>
[12:49] <cjwatson> sil2100: Have you considered just looking at the -changes list archives?
[12:51] <sil2100> hm, I guess that could be a bit better than going through all those spph
[12:54] <cjwatson> there used to be a page with pie charts by uploader+release, but I've lost it
[12:56] <sil2100> That one would be useful
[13:07] <cjwatson> http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/ but it only goes up to yakkety
[13:09] <sil2100> cjwatson: big thanks!
[13:09] <sil2100> This will be very helpful


[15:33] <lotuspsychje> _123design_: then its like daftykins says, no pass
[15:34] <_123design_> yes
[15:34] <_123design_> it is
[15:34] <Mr-Potter> Hi is it really worth migrating from 14.10 to 15.04?
[15:34] <_123design_> but there has happened an internal error
[15:34] <petrvs> Mr-Potter: had you planned on never upgrading? Bad plan
[15:34]  * Mr-Potter wishes he'd just plumped for 14.04 :P
[15:34] <k1l_> Mr-Potter: in 3 months ends the support for 14.10 so you got to upgrade in that timeframe
[15:34] <_123design_> now I see the desktop, but my work has gone in the toilet
[15:34] <Mr-Potter> petrvs: No I never planned on that, I planned on upgrading when neccessary if not more often
[15:34] <compdoc> 14.04 for me for a couple years, at least
[15:34] <Mr-Potter> k1l_: Yeah that's true thank you
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> compdoc: How good
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> TBH I think I'll just side step to Windows 8
[15:35] <compdoc> windows 10
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> please dont discuss windows here
[15:35] <kunji> Mr-Potter: You should use either the latest release or the LTS one unless you have a good reason not to.  Same goes for Windows though, with good reasons becoming fewer and fewer.
[15:35] <fermion> daftykins, i dont know why but in the tty i get the "login incorrect" warning    https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmehx3i8xswx895/20150501_161402.JPG?dl=0&oref=e&n=50550987
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> Maybe eventually install the latest LTS version on the side
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> kunji: OK thanks got it
[15:36] <Mr-Potter> Why cant we discuss windows
[15:36] <petrvs> not #windows
[15:36] <Mr-Potter> alright
[15:36] <k1l_> Mr-Potter: ##windows is the windows channel. we focus on ubuntu support in here.
[15:36] <kunji> Mr-Potter: because it's off topic, I guess it would be fair game in the corresponding off topic channel.
[15:36] <daftykins> fermion: that must be the wrong username
[15:36] <Mr-Potter> kunji: OK thanks understood
[15:37] <fermion> i am using the username that i have at the login screen
[15:37] <fermion> and i get the same result
[15:45] <gianpaolo> o a
[15:45] <gianpaolo> scusate sono su ubuntu studio e vorrei metterci linux mint
[15:45] <gianpaolo> come faccio?
[15:45] <ioria> english here, please
[15:45] <daftykins> fermion: then it is wrong
[15:46] <daftykins> or your password is wrong
[15:46] <kunji> Actually, question: does the open source radeon driver support switching active graphics cards yet?  What ATI calls Enduro.
[15:46] <gianpaolo> i'm on ubuntu studio and i want to put linux mint
[15:46] <fermion> daftykins perhaps because i login with nomodeset thare is some info list?
[15:46] <ioria> gianpaolo, you can use virtualbox, or dual boot
[15:47] <gianpaolo> i'm on a partitioned hard disk already
[15:47] <segaboy> gianpaolo, why don't you just install cinnamon as your desktop environment for Ubuntu Studio?
[15:47] <fermion> at the login screen i have the jojo username, and i remember the password. this problem in my system is recent
[15:47] <daftykins> fermion: booting with nomodeset won't change your username
[15:47] <gianpaolo> i'd like to cancel ubuntu studio here and put linux mint instead
[15:47] <daftykins> fermion: oh so this worked fine before?
[15:47] <ioria> gianpaolo, do you wanna just a DE or a system ?
[15:48] <k1l_> gianpaolo: then boot a linux mint usb and install it. but you will need to ask linux mint support for help oin that
[15:48] <k1l_> !mint | gianpaolo
[15:48] <fermion> daftykins, and my ubuntu has worked for some time, but i updated the drivers and i think that caused the problem
[15:48] <segaboy> gianpolo, the installer for Mint will allow you to delete the partitions you already have.
[15:48] <daftykins> fermion: ah, nvidia driver update?
[15:48] <fermion> yah
[15:48] <ausjke> speng the whole morning fighting with sshd
[15:48] <gianpaolo> no i just want to know how i can format the partition with ubuntu studio
[15:49] <uskerine> hi, I would like to specify a custom X11 resource (Mwm*resizeBorderWidth: 3)
[15:49] <ausjke> tried increase MaxAuthTries in sshd_config, restart it, then try login with wrong passwords, it always quit after 3 tries?
[15:49] <k1l_> gianpaolo: you cant format the partition while you use the partition.
[15:49] <uskerine> in which file should that be included?
[15:49] <k1l_> gianpaolo: boot a linux mint usb/dvd and use their installer
[15:49] <ioria> gianpaolo, if you want to delete ubuntu, it'll be task of the new insatller
[15:49] <gianpaolo> okay 'll try
[15:49] <ioria> *installer
[15:49] <gianpaolo> thanks guys
[15:49] <kunji> gianpaolo: Umm, gparted, but you can't format the partition that gparted is running on, for I think obvious reasons.
[15:50] <gianpaolo> i'll try from windows
[15:50] <kunji> gianpaolo: you can do it during the Mint install, or using the liveCD of Mint or Ubuntu-Studio.
[15:51] <gianpaolo> ok
[15:51] <skinux> I noticed that there are a lot of 'backup' directories in various places, altogether which are taking up several Gigs of disk space. Is there an easy way to free up that space or do I have to manually empty all of the various directories?
[15:51] <kunji> skinux:eh?  Where did those come from?
[15:52] <skinux> I don't know. I did a disk-wide search for 'backup' and found a bunch of directories.
[15:52] <Voyage> How to find a file (in a directory and all sub directories) that might have a "specific string"?
[15:52] <mcphail> Voyage: grep, ack or ag
[15:52] <skinux> Voyage: read up on the 'find' command.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> githogori: use gparted
[15:54] <fermion> daftykins, is the ubuntu login name the same that i must enter in the tty1?
[15:54] <daftykins> fermion: your account username, yes
[15:55] <petrvs> Voyage: grep -r would be the brute force way
[15:55] <fermion> but is the same?
[15:55] <kunji> skinux: Hmm, normally I wouldn't expect them to take much diskspace on a normal linux install unless there is some software running to make them.  Did you set up the backups software in the settings?
[15:55] <petrvs> Voyage: depending on what's in the dirs, find'ing all the text files first might be worthwhile
[15:55] <daftykins> fermion: don't ask me :)
[15:55] <skinux> kunji: I don't remember doing so, but I'll check.
[15:55] <fermion> daftykins, why? i am not sure about that..
[15:56] <skinux> I'm not finding any settings about backups.
[15:56] <daftykins> fermion: i don't really have any suggestions if you say your username does not work
[15:57] <fermion> daftykins, but is the same as that one from the ubuntu login screen?
[15:57] <kunji> skinux: All Settings -> Backups doesn't exist on your machine, or it's not set to make any backups?
[15:57] <daftykins> fermion: for the third time, yes :)
[15:59] <kunji> skinux: Should actually be accessible right from the main menu under the name Backups
[15:59] <skinux> I'm using Unity, only general settings thing I can find is for KDE.
[16:00] <fermion> daftykins, at the login screen when i select the guest and i click enter then i also get a balck screen and i get back to the login
[16:00] <arulmagi> hi everyone! can i install other desktop environments in kubuntu?
[16:00] <daftykins> fermion: yeah i know
[16:00] <petrvs> arulmagi: yup
[16:00] <skinux> Found it. No, automatic backups are NOT enabled.
[16:00] <kunji> skinux: What if you want to change your background?  Isn't it right click on the background -> Change Desktop Background?
[16:00] <daftykins> !recovery | fermion use this and login as root, remount the hard disk as read-write then try "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot
[16:01] <Voyage> petrvs,  thanks
[16:01] <kunji> skinux: And then that takes you to All Settings -> Appearance, so you could then click on where it says All Settings.
[16:01] <arulmagi> in that case,how to install cinammon flavor in kubuntu?
[16:01] <skinux> I already found 'Backups' settings. Automatic backups are NOT enabled.
[16:02] <mustmodify> I know this is mildly OT and I can do the googling on my own, need a push. What is the name for the characters that cause logs or consoles to show colors?
[16:02] <kunji> skinux: Ah, ok, that's what I was asking.  Are these backup files you're finding scattered around the filesystem?
[16:02] <mustmodify> I want to filter those out from files before I load them in vim.
[16:03] <skinux> Appears so, yes. I did the search again so I can provide some information on locations.
[16:04] <skinux> Here's one: /sys/firmware/efi/vars/SecureStateBackup-d710a718-c02a-4658-a0ce-69820a7e8d24
[16:04] <tgm4883> mustmodify: you sure you don't have some vim addon for syntax highlighting
[16:05] <nell> my display messed up after installing nvidia drivers for my thinkpad [14.04]
[16:05] <nell> before: http://a.pomf.se/hzzvdy.png   after: http://a.pomf.se/qbknax.png
[16:05] <skinux> And /sys/firmware/efi/vars/BackupPlatformLang-59d1c24f-50f1-401a-b101-f33e0daed443 although those directories are not even half of a MB.
[16:05] <nell> all the tabs and window decorations are big
[16:06] <ioria> mustmodify, for ano there is a .nanorc, don't rememer for vim
[16:06] <ioria> nano
[16:07] <kunji> skinux: Hmm, I don't even have a /sys/firmware/efi, I just have acpi and memmap in there.  If none of them are popping out as being significantly big, then they're probably being created by local tools that expect them.  (like how many tools will make a backup of xorg.conf before messing with it).  I don't think there will be a global way to manage them or that you would recover much space.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> nell: what is the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[16:08] <XenophonF> is it possible to setup an encrypted swap with an ephemeral key?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> nell: use http://pastie.org or similar to host
[16:09] <nell> http://sprunge.us/QRTO
[16:09] <nell> i just applied 349.16 and i gotta reset to set changes i tink
[16:09] <nell> reboot* sorry. I have the Quadro 1000M
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nell: sudo dpkg -P nvidia-346 nvidia-opencl-icd-304    will help clean up, you could try:   sudo nvidia-xconfig      then use the xorg.conf file to set the resolution
[16:11] <simon_> hello
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nell: are you planning to run 3D games in Ubuntu ?
[16:11] <flexi7> hi
[16:11] <flexi7> how do you enable remote ports for e.g. 6311 ?
[16:12] <nell> ActionParsnip its for this one program that uses openGL, its not really a game but its 3D
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> flexi7: by default, ubuntu allows all incoming traffic
[16:12] <nell> [it's a 3D web browser im testing for Virtual/Augmented Reality research]
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nell: I see
[16:12] <XenophonF> i guess there isn't a way to create and mount a luks container in one step, so i can't just let cryptsetup read 128 bytes or something from /dev/urandom
[16:13] <nell> upon invoking sudo dpkg -P nvidia-346 nvidia-opencl-icd-304
[16:13] <nell> do I reboot?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> nell: worth a try
[16:13] <XenophonF> looks like i'd have to generate a random key, save it somewhere, etc. - which kind of defeats the purpose of have a swap partition encrypted with a one-time key
[16:13] <nell> I'll brb then
[16:13] <daftykins> flexi7: open it on your router first
[16:13] <stacks88> I tried to google, maybe im not googling the right things. Can someone point me to where I can find out when 14.04 LTS support ends? Like its long term release right? but for how long
[16:13] <stacks88> until what year
[16:14] <daftykins> stacks88: 5 years from release, so 2019 April 30th
[16:14] <stacks88> Thank you daftykins
[16:14] <flexi7> i ll try it
[16:14] <stacks88> Is it always 5 years from release?
[16:14] <daftykins> this information is freely available online
[16:14] <stacks88> Or just this one particular one
[16:14] <daftykins> only for LTS
[16:14] <daftykins> !lts
[16:14] <stacks88> ok
[16:14] <flexi7> worked thx
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: LTS is 5 years support, so will end in April 2019
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: the version numbers make calculating that stuff a snap
[16:15] <stacks88> By using LTS, that means that I don't have to upgrade to a newer version (thats not LTS) and that also means that the packages will be updated and considered secure, correct?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: yes, and tested to be solid
[16:16] <kunji> stacks88: packages will receive security upgrades and will eventually be upgraded to newer versions, they may not always be the latest versions though.
[16:16] <stacks88> kunji understood, thanks
[16:16] <stacks88> On my ubuntu server 14.04.2 LTS, ive ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade.. all packages updated, except it says The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic -- so does this mean that I should do apt-get dist-upgrade ? And that will upgrade the kernel, BUT still keep me on LTS, correct? and the only way to upgrade PAST LTS is to do:
[16:16] <stacks88> do-release-upgrade , correct?
[16:17] <stacks88> in other words, apt-get dist-upgrade is not going to push me off LTS (to a non-lts)
[16:17] <kunji> stacks88: dist-upgrade
[16:17] <stacks88> want to remain on LTS*
[16:17] <kunji> stacks88: right
[16:17] <stacks88> ok great
[16:18] <stacks88> and sorry one last thing (i think), by doing dist-upgrade, will the new kernel already be in effect or will it require a reboot?
[16:18] <petrvs> reboot almost certainly
[16:18] <stacks88> ok
[16:18] <petrvs> don't think Ubuntu has any ksplice/kexec stuff setup
[16:18] <petrvs> few distros have
[16:18] <petrvs> some might argue few would even want to
[16:19] <petrvs> patching huge spanking new security vulnerabilities is great, but in general, the solution to 100% uptime is redundant servers
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: in the kernel 4.0 and onwards it wont be required
[16:19] <stacks88> thats cool
[16:19] <petrvs> ActionParsnip: rebooting?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> petrvs: wont be needed to change kernel
[16:20] <petrvs> that is cool
[16:20] <charlie_sanders> anyone have an epson scanner / printer ?  If so, how do you initiate a scan ?
[16:20] <petrvs> patches <3
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> charlie_sanders: use simple scan or xsane
[16:21] <nell> ActionParsnip I'm inside TTY cuz my screen is black
[16:21] <charlie_sanders> ActionParsnip, simple-scan sounds more my speed :)  checking it out
[16:21] <kunji> charlie_sanders: just an FYI, simple scan is also xsane, just with a simplified interface.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> nell: then reinstall the driver package, may help
[16:22] <charlie_sanders> ActionParsnip, kunji works!  I already had it installed apparently
[16:22] <kunji> ^_^
[16:23] <dajonesy> hi.  when I logged on today, my file manager app fonts were too large.
[16:24] <nell> gunna remove 349
[16:27] <dajonesy> I installed a different file manager, but I would like to understand the problem if possible.
[16:27] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys
[16:29] <petrvs> hi guy
[16:30] <ioria> dajonesy, well, in edit-preferences, usually you can set the icon scale
[16:30] <EriC^^> dajonesy: you probably pressed ctrl+mouse scroll
[16:30] <JustPie__work> Hey all, I'm running into a rather strange issue. If i type rm -rf /dir name. It gives me the following message "rm: cannot remove ‘annotations/’: Directory not empty" The permissions are correct and are set to 777... Could anyone shead some light on this?
[16:31] <EriC^^> JustPie__work: who do you own the dir? and the dir before it?
[16:32] <EriC^^> JustPie__work: type ls -ld . ..
[16:32] <JustPie__work> EriC^^:  root does
[16:32] <EriC^^> for both dirs?
[16:33] <JustPie__work> yeah
[16:33] <EriC^^> you can't delete it, you need sudo
[16:33] <JustPie__work> its a vagrant machine, even if i use sudo it doesn't work
[16:33] <JustPie__work> gives the same error
[16:33] <EriC^^> type lsattr
[16:33] <EriC^^> lsattr /dir
[16:34] <Eldunar> Hello. I have a problem with empathy. I can not log into facebook chat via empathy. Pidgin works well with facebook.
[16:34] <somsip> Eldunar: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/facebook-chat-api-empathy-pidgin-stop-working
[16:34] <xangua> Eldunar: facebook has shutted down their XMPP  servers
[16:35] <JustPie__work> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10963344/
[16:35] <Eldunar> so there is no way in trying with empathy?
[16:35] <Eldunar> just stick with pidgin?
[16:36] <xangua> it still works in pidgin for mee too, but probably will stop soon
[16:36] <Eldunar> damn;/ so nvm thanks for info guys:) have  a nice day :)
[16:37] <stacks88> on this digitalocean KVM vps, I have: Linux digitalocean 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP , so I ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade , and let it update The following packages will be upgraded: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic and said new packages will be installed:   linux-headers-3.13.0-51 linux-headers-3.13.0-51-generic  linux-image-3.13.0-51-generic
[16:37] <stacks88> linux-image-extra-3.13.0-51-generic .. i ended up typing reboot, but noticed that when it came back its still 3.11.0-12 Linux digitalocean 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP.. Was I suppose to type update-grub before rebooting ?
[16:38] <daftykins> stacks88: no - and read digitalocean's guides on what you can do about what kernel is running
[16:38] <stacks88> ah ok so its different for them, ok then
[16:38] <stacks88> i assumed since it was kvm it would be the same as any other real machine
[16:39] <dajonesy> right guys, user can zoom fonts (cntl+-, or cntl+scroll) but the problem is the smallest fonts are displayed gianormously, about 16 lines/screen
[16:39] <daftykins> stacks88: well the fact DO email you a root password right away is a sure sign it's not a normal ubuntu machine :>
[16:40] <dajonesy> no other application seems to be troubled in this way.  only the default file manager app.
[16:40] <stacks88> what you described, even on a real dedicated machine, how hard would it be to auto install ubuntu and then define a temporary root password
[16:40] <stacks88> and email it
[16:40] <kk0710> any network guru's in here who want to look at the last few entries in my sylog and help me figure out what is going on with my realtek wireless adapter?  I was having problems from the get go but thought I had them figured out by following some instructions in the forums but then I got a response from a bug report I sent in and told to update the firmware on my router, now the problem is back but 10 times worse and I have no clue anymore.
[16:41] <fermion> daftykins and ubottu, i have entered in the recovery mode and i run that that command and i got the following: https://www.dropbox.com/s/34oag6h8sp9fv4b/20150501_173041.JPG?dl=0
[16:41] <daftykins> kk0710: if you updated router firmware, factory reset it and configure it again from scratch
[16:41] <ioria> kk0710, lsusb ?
[16:41] <daftykins> fermion: it's sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[16:42] <XenophonF> ah i figured out how to do the encrypted swap
[16:42] <kk0710> daftykins, I am only having problems on one laptop and only when boted into unbuntu?
[16:42] <daftykins> kk0710: i would do it regardless.
[16:42] <XenophonF> you have to add something like "cryptswap0 /dev/disk/by-partlabel/swap0 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-xts-plain64,hash=sha512" to /etc/crypttab
[16:42] <XenophonF> and then you can run "cryptdisks_start cryptswap0"
[16:42] <daftykins> XenophonF: nobody is doing your setup so it's absolutely pointless you sharing this
[16:43] <XenophonF> daftykins: my apologies - i'll leave the channel
[16:43] <kk0710> daftykins, ok I wil ad it to my list of things to do, I am also going to do a fresh install of 14.04 on here and start everything from scratch.  I am almost to the point of buying an ubuntu safe laptop and getting rid of this  thing
[16:43] <kk0710> ioria, I assume you meant lspci?
[16:44] <ioria> kk0710, it's not a usb wifi adapter ?
[16:44] <daftykins> kk0710: sounds like a good idea, or just getting a supported wifi card
[16:44] <kk0710> daftykins, would you mind taking a look at my syslog, I tailed it last night and there were some wlan0 entries the last 8 hours
[16:44] <stacks88> okay but on a real machine (dedicated server), i have a ubuntu box that is 14.04.2, it says The following packages have been kept back:  linux-image-generic linux-image-server -- so for this actual machine, i would do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , and then reboot? Or would i do update-grub first *then* reboot? wanting to stay on LTS
[16:44] <kk0710> daftykins, supposedly this card is supported and again I had it going just fine for a while, twice actually but then something happens and it starts acting up again
[16:45] <fermion> daftykins
[16:45] <fermion> ubottu
[16:46] <fermion> i love u
[16:46] <fermion> that solved my problem
[16:46] <fermion> where ar u to give u a hug?
[16:46] <kk0710> daftykins, it is a RTL8188EE and there are a couple of fixes listed throughout the unbuntu forums, the one with backports seemed to work just fine, I was getting max speed on transmission Dl's without interrupt but then bug report guy told me to update my firmware and I didn't think it could hurt lol
[16:46] <kk0710> ioria, no it is ia build in wireless adapter
[16:47] <daftykins> fermion: we are legion, we are everywhere and nowhere
[16:47] <daftykins> fermion: by the way ubottu is a bot, i told her to give you the earlier link
[16:49] <guilherme> Hi
[16:49] <kk0710> ok well here is a paste of the last few hours of my syslog.
[16:49] <kk0710> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10963440/
[16:49] <fermion> guilherme, we are not very hellowish here, buit anyway, hello
[16:49] <dajonesy> here is a better description of the problem: file manager icon images scale properly with cntl+scroll changes, but text is persistently displayed in max font size regardless of zoom
[16:50] <guilherme> Lol, it's been about 10+ that I had connected to IRC
[16:50] <guilherme> Glad to be b
[16:50] <guilherme> *back
[16:51] <daftykins> guilherme: ok, support channel only in here though please - #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[16:51] <kk0710> what really bothers me about this wireless adapter is that the EE doesn't have a download on the realtek website
[16:52] <daftykins> kk0710: you don't download drivers in Linux land anyway
[16:52] <daftykins> very Windows mentality that :>
[16:53] <comodo_dragon> :D
[16:53] <kk0710> daftykins, perhaps my syntax was incorrect, allow me to clarify lol
[16:53] <daftykins> i think i follow you ok
[16:53] <kk0710> daftykins, actually my syntax comes right from ubuntu lol
[16:53] <daftykins> wat
[16:53] <kk0710> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LinuxWireless number 13
[16:55] <nullbyte_> how can I install Mac OS X style panel and i want to remove default one in left?
[16:56] <xangua> nullbyte_: you mean a "dock" not a panel
[16:56] <nullbyte_> yes dock
[16:56] <daftykins> your best bet is to not use unity.
[16:57] <xangua> and you may banna try gnome fallback mode
[16:57] <nell> the directions to install nvidia drivres on ubuntu are really confusing
[16:57] <xangua> or any other desktop enviroment
[16:58] <storn> kk0710: your syslog suggests that you are being authenticated and deauthenticated in a cyclic manner
[16:59] <kk0710> storn, that is basically what I thought too but wasn't sure if that was a clue to the specific problem?  I am in the process of backing up this laptop then going to restore it to factory then do a clean install of 14.04, while doing this I will reset the router too once I figur eout how but want to be prepared if it does not fix the problem.   Also thank you for looking at it!
[17:00] <nbusrone> daftykins : Sorry for the late reply the nvidia version http://imgur.com/mtu1AY9
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  install cairo dock, logout, switch, login
[17:00] <nullbyte_> MonkeyDust: cairo from where is the question
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  and if you're in 15.04: there's "plank"
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  from the software sources
[17:01] <nullbyte_> ok
[17:01] <nullbyte_> what is a plank?
[17:01] <nullbyte_> where is that
[17:01] <xangua> a dock
[17:01] <ioria> kk0710, what kernel are you using ?
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  the software center, if you like
[17:02] <kk0710> 3.13.0-49-generic
[17:03] <nullbyte_> MonkeyDust: yes done, i am with plank now:)
[17:03] <nullbyte_> MonkeyDust: : how can i disable default dock in left
[17:07] <ioria> kk0710, have you already tried the backport solution ?
[17:07] <kk0710> ioria, yes and it worked until I updated my firmware
[17:07] <kk0710> ioria, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264505 post number 5 is what I did
[17:08] <ioria> kk0710, firmware on your router  or in ubuntu ?
[17:08] <kk0710> ioria, the problem was I was getting instructions from the bug report guy of things to try too and I did a lot of other things so I can't pinpoint the exactly problem
[17:08] <kk0710> ioria, on my router
[17:08] <kk0710> that is why I am going to do a full reset of the router and fresh install and go immediately to the backport solution
[17:09] <ioria> kk0710, the simple router reset didn't work ?
[17:09] <kk0710> I mean I did a power down on it if that is what you mean
[17:10] <ioria> kk0710, no
[17:10] <ioria> kk0710, you have to follow the manual,   on mine you have to press for 10 secs on a specific button
[17:10] <kk0710> im looking now
[17:11] <kk0710> but I dont have issues with any other devices on wireless
[17:11] <kk0710> not even this laptop when it is in windows
[17:11] <geri> post ubuntu
[17:11] <geri> paste
[17:11] <geri> how can a paste from ubuntu cmd line?
[17:11] <kk0710> geri ctrl shift c
[17:13] <geri> kk0710: not that
[17:13] <kk0710> geri, then clarify your question
[17:13] <geri> cat file | url_paste_service
[17:13] <SCHAAP137> you want to output a pastbin from the terminal itself?
[17:13] <genii> !pastebinit
[17:13] <kk0710> ah
[17:15] <nbt> geri: echo just testing!  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:23] <gspe> Hi, this morning I was cleaning my desk and I turned off the power with the pc on. Now I am not able to boot the pc in UEFI mode I have tested usb too but noting, I was not able to boot anymore. Some one can suggest me something to try? Thank you
[17:24] <SchrodingersScat> gspe: you weren't even able to boot into usb?  that sounds like a problem
[17:25] <gspe> Yes correct, first I think at some hardware failure, but after some test I discovered that is the UEFI bios
[17:26] <gspe> Legacy Bios boot but UEFI not
[17:30] <sai> hello
[17:30] <ioria> gspe did you check the power-on option in uefi ?
[17:34] <sai> i have a server listening on unix socket, what software should i use to connect to it
[17:36] <SCHAAP137> sai, that depends on what you're serving
[17:41] <Parsi> i want to remove ruby2 and keep ruby1.9.3 in ubuntu
[17:41] <Parsi> would you please help me?
[17:41] <Parsi> ruby 2.2.1p85 (2015-02-26 revision 49769) [i686-linux]
[17:41] <Parsi> current ruby version
[17:42] <OerHeks> Parsi,  how did you install ruby2 ?
[17:42] <karl_> anyone hve any ideas why I can't get my plex server to see my external drive.  I changed plex's primary group from nouser to my username so it definitely has permission but will not do anything with it
[17:42] <ikonia> define "can't see"
[17:43] <karl_> ikonia if I go to /media/username there are no further options to click on, it shows "My Passport" on the main options page but when I click on it it does nothing
[17:43] <Parsi> OerHeks, as i remember it was pre-installed
[17:44] <ikonia> karl_: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[17:44] <OerHeks> Parsi, what ubuntu version  are you on?
[17:44] <karl_> ikonia, 14.04 lts fresh installed last night
[17:44] <Parsi> 14
[17:44] <ikonia> karl_: what file system is on the external disk
[17:44] <Parsi> OerHeks
[17:44] <karl_> ntfs for for crossplatform
[17:45] <ikonia> ok - will use the "mount" command to see if it's mounted first of all
[17:45] <ikonia> if it's not mounted, nothing else matters
[17:45] <OerHeks> Parsi, 14.04 lts got 1.9.3 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ruby
[17:45] <karl_> ikonia, am I incorrect ina ssuming that if I can see the files on it that it is not mounted?
[17:45] <ikonia> karl_: if you can see the files - it's mounted
[17:45] <ikonia> karl_: but if you can see the files what's the problem ?
[17:45] <OerHeks> Parsi i guess you have 14.10
[17:45] <Parsi> OerHeks, i'm using a vbox image file
[17:46] <karl_> ikonia, I said I can see the files no problem on unbuntu, but plex won't see them despite putting it in my usergroup
[17:46] <Parsi> OerHeks, i don't know maybe the the one who created the image file installed it
[17:46] <ikonia> karl_: because it's nft - it's being mounted as a userspace mount
[17:46] <ikonia> so only your user can access it - that is because you are using nfts
[17:46] <ikonia> (which is mounted via fuse)
[17:47] <k_sze> What's the easiest way to test that conntrack is working?
[17:47] <OerHeks> Parsi, get or make yourself a 14.04 lts vdi
[17:47] <Parsi> OerHeks, thank you
[17:50] <k_sze> hmm, I just installed conntrack using apt-get
[17:50] <yerata> Is there any open source webb vulnebility scanners written in c++?
[17:50] <k_sze> but `conntrack -E` gives me "Can't open handler"
[17:50] <karl_> ikonia, yes but I added plex to my group?
[17:51] <ikonia> karl_: so ?
[17:51] <karl_> ugh
[17:51] <karl_> I not trying to be obtuse dude vbut I don't understand your point
[17:51] <OerHeks> k_sze, try 'sudo conntrack -C'
[17:51] <ikonia> it's user spac mount
[17:51] <ikonia> space
[17:51] <karl_> ok and???
[17:51] <ikonia> a user outside your userspace won't see it
[17:51] <stacks88> Does anyone know what font this is, on ubuntu? http://i.imgur.com/NYv8CFJ.png , saw it when i bring up console
[17:52] <karl_> ok so what is the workaround?
[17:52] <ioria> maybe the issue is adding to   plugdev
[17:52] <ikonia> don't use the wong file systems
[17:52] <ikonia> or mount it globally read only
[17:52] <karl_> yes I thought it would belong to plugdev group too but it belongs to karl
[17:52] <karl_> so I added plex to the karl group thinking that would fix it
[17:52] <ikonia> it's a permission
[17:52] <ikonia> a group is not a userspace
[17:53] <ioria> groups plex ?
[17:53] <karl_> ioria, right now it is in group "karl"
[17:53] <karl_> it was in group nogroup and I thought that was the problem
[17:53] <karl_> so I did an ls -l and my passport was karl karl
[17:54] <ioria> just karl ? nothing else ?
[17:54] <karl_> so I moved plex to group karl thinking I was clevery but apparently im an idiot
[17:54] <karl_> currently nothing else
[17:55] <fazer> hi, I'm trying to upload  a patched package to PPA with dput, but I'm getting errors like: "Uploading qtbase-opensource-src_5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4ppa1.dsc: 550 Requested action not taken: internal server error" and "errors: [Errno 110] Connection timed out"
[17:55] <ikonia> fazer: you don't upload the package
[17:55] <ikonia> you upload the fixes and let it build the package on the platform
[17:55] <karl_> so I am not sure whichi group to put plex in and what permissions need to be adjusted
[17:56] <fazer> ikonia: I know, I'm doing that
[17:56] <ikonia> fazer: cool, so what's the problem ?
[17:57] <karl_> and FYI I am not using the "wrong" file system
[17:57] <fazer> ikonia: I'm invoking this command: dput ppa:foo/ppa qtbase-opensource-src_5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4ppa1_source.changes
[17:57] <ikonia> karl_: well you are
[17:58] <fazer> ikonia: it checks the signatures, then tries to upload files
[17:58] <karl_> Linux can see NTFS and I need portability
[17:58] <ikonia> karl_: yes itt can
[17:58] <fazer> ikonia: and then it ends with "Uploading qtbase-opensource-src_5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4ppa1.dsc: 550 Requested action not taken: internal server error"
[17:58] <ikonia> karl_: but it needs to mount using a userspace file system
[17:58] <ikonia> or userspace mount I should say
[17:58] <OerHeks> ikonia, would adding plex to plugdev group solve this ntfs issue? or is it just the mount option 'UUID=...  /media/mountpoint ntfs-3g permissions,auto 0 0"
[17:58] <karl_> is there a way I can just force this to mount under plugdev?
[17:58] <ikonia> fazer: so the server is having an internal error
[17:58] <karl_> or can you tell me the specifics of the permissions I need to change?
[17:59] <ikonia> OerHeks: the group plugdev won't do anyhing as thats just a file system / group - this is within a userspace, the user outside the current user is trying to access it
[17:59] <ikonia> yoyu can set the mount UID which is the user it will mount the disk as, but then you'll hit the reverse problem
[18:00] <karl_> looks like I am doing a windows server then
[18:00] <ikonia> thats another optioin
[18:00] <ikonia> if that fits the needs better,
[18:00] <karl_> well I seem to be having way too many problems with ubuntu lately, gotta say I am very surprised there isn't a simple work around  for this
[18:01] <ikonia> karl_: ntfs is the wrong file system
[18:01] <ioria> karl   where 's the mount point ?
[18:01] <karl_> im resetting my laptop now trying to figure a networking problem out and was hoping to at least getg this figured out while I waited on that
[18:01] <ikonia> it's not a supported file system - hence why it uses "fuse"
[18:01] <karl_> well I need portability
[18:01] <ikonia> a simple read of the fuse doc suggest the allow_other parameter mayy work, but may cause you more problems
[18:02] <karl_> and in fact doesn't ubuntu create ntfs usb's when creating startup disks
[18:02] <karl_> how is it not supported?
[18:02] <sjmikem> redshift seems to make my touchpad die frequently.  Switching to console mode and back (Ctrl-F2, Ctrl-F7) restores it.  Any ideas how to fix?
[18:02] <ikonia> karl_: no, it doesn't use NFTS
[18:02] <ikonia> karl_: it's not supported as it's a microsoft file system that someone has tried to reverse engineer
[18:02] <ikonia> and done a great job I may add
[18:02] <ikonia> but there are limits or complexities
[18:02] <ikonia> eg: no permissions support
[18:03] <hkrrsx> morning
[18:03] <zuron7>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER zuron7 pjbcsxkvyesy
[18:03] <karl_> well I am stuck because I want to use this drive as a backup device for multiple operating systems when needed
[18:03] <zuron7> well, crap
[18:03] <karl_> maybe I should just buy an internal drive
[18:03] <ikonia> thats not very portible
[18:03] <xangua> zuron7: no numbers or symbols in your password¿
[18:03] <BluesKaj> zuron7, wrong textbox , try the server, but change the pw
[18:03] <karl_> this unit runs an ssd which is too small for media
[18:04] <ikonia> I don't understand what that has to do with it
[18:04] <ikonia> you said you need portable disk - then say you'll buy an internal
[18:04] <ikonia> that doesn't seem very portable
[18:04] <karl_> you aren't understanding me
[18:04] <ioria> karl   where 's the mount point ? in /media ?
[18:04] <zuron7> I realised after pasting it in.
[18:04] <karl_> really wow? lol
[18:04] <zuron7> Thanks anyway.
[18:05] <karl_> I meant buy another internal disk for my media server
[18:05] <karl_> ioria, he is right it is under my username
[18:07] <ioria> karl   /media is used by the system ,  try another point
[18:07] <ikonia> used by the system ?
[18:08] <ikonia> what /
[18:08] <ioria> ikonia no ?
[18:08] <ikonia> ioria: no whaht ?
[18:08] <ikonia> what
[18:08] <ioria> "media is a System Folder for exclusive use by the System to mount and unmount removable devices."
[18:08] <ikonia> no
[18:09] <bigred15> Does anyone else get a ridiculous amount of Ubuntu "system error" popups?
[18:09] <ikonia> it a directory like any other
[18:12] <area51pilot> list
[18:14] <skinux> How many apps are there developed/being developed using Ubuntu SDK (desktop, not mobile) ?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> skinux  #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:17] <FloKat> hi
[18:17] <nullbyte_> how can i disable default dock in left?
[18:17] <segaboy> hi FloKat :)
[18:17] <FloKat> :p
[18:18] <yerata> Is there any opensouce sqli vulnebility scanner written in c/c++?
[18:18] <daftykins> nullbyte_: as i said earlier you're better off using non-unity if you want to turn your ubuntu install into something looking like a Mac *spits*
[18:19] <nullbyte_> daftykins: did you use gnome.extensions.org?
[18:20] <daftykins> nullbyte_: i do not use desktop ubuntu
[18:20] <xangua> nullbyte_: if you want yo use gnome extensions, you need to run gnome-shell, not unity
[18:20] <FloKat> I think I have a display problem with my Software center... Vanilla display : http://www.ubuntu-fr.org/sites/ubuntu-fr.org/files/screenshots/12.10/4_Logitheque.png // Mine : http://postimg.org/image/6f4bsil8f/
[18:21] <FloKat> Maybe some missing packages ?
[18:24] <fazer> ikonia: I fixed my problem by changing upload method to sftp and putting ssh public key  on launchpad
[18:26] <useruser> Hello, I have a old dell inspiron n4010 with Ubuntu, I think I need an upgrade, Can I put SSD on it or should I buy a new laptop?
[18:28] <compdoc> useruser, an ssd will help a lot. do you want to keep it?
[18:29] <daftykins> useruser: depends on the rest of the hardware spec as to whether it's worth bothering
[18:30] <useruser> compdoc:  If I add an SSD, I can buy a better new one in a couple of months
[18:30] <compdoc> useruser, the ssd will be useful for years
[18:33] <useruser> compdoc:  the laptop have an i3 processor and 3GB RAM, should I add RAM too?
[18:34] <compdoc> useruser, 3GB isnt too bad. you planning on giving the lapto away later?
[18:35] <Bashing-om> useruser: In my opinion, there is no such thing as too little ram . I do think of 4 Gigs - now-a-days - as a minimum for what we now do with our computers.
[18:37] <useruser> compdoc:  I will give it to my brother after buying new laptop, I think he can play enough with it.
[18:37] <darthanubis> 4gb is not needed for facebook
[18:37] <zuron7> chrome needs 4gb
[18:37] <darthanubis> yeah, no
[18:38] <darthanubis> it may use 4gb, but does not need
[18:38] <useruser> Bashing-om: I think the same, I haven't used that much RAM, It might use little more RAM if I use vagrant or something like that.
[18:38] <zuron7> theres noticable lag with less than 4gb that's all
[18:38] <useruser> zuron7: lol :D
[18:38] <zuron7> there are always other lightweight browsers out there though
[18:39] <darthanubis> on your machine
[18:39] <blb3383> so, 15.04 uses systemd i've heard
[18:39] <Bashing-om> useruser: An acceptable level of performance is doable with 2 Gigs . But 4 is better  !
[18:39] <darthanubis> yup
[18:39] <newuser789> any channel for terminal scripting ?
[18:39] <b4tm4n> so, ubuntu has moved to systemd, but can I still use upstart scripts to start applications?
[18:40] <zuron7> try #bash
[18:40] <RepThis1> zerowaitstate: hey you sent me some stuff on fixing my vmware workstation 11 vmnet issue, it worked! Thx for the help.
[18:40] <newuser789> any channel for terminal scripting ?
[18:40] <al2o3-cr> newuser789: #bash
[18:40] <solsTiCe> CB21Woodson
[18:41] <useruser> any recommendation in buying an SSD? Samsung or kingstone?
[18:41] <solsTiCe> ok. so every one got my password :-)
[18:41] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: i dont think so, but for now, if you prefer you can go back to upstart either for a single boot, or permanant change https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[18:41] <blb3383> should we use it too?
[18:41] <blb3383> you password I mean
[18:42] <b4tm4n> geoffmcc, maybe i'm confused, but it looks like commands like "sudo service networking restart" still work - am i missing something?
[18:42] <blb3383> well, dumping upstart was a move for the canonical for sure
[18:44] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: yeah, me too. trying to get used to it. Maybe you can. I guess I should have not commented as I am not 100% sure. But if you do sudo service xxx status, you will see it is actually using systemd
[18:44] <blb3383> will canonical dump mir for weston?
[18:44] <useruser> compdoc:  any recommendation in buying an SSD? Samsung or kingstone?
[18:45] <darthanubis> blb3383, now your not even being serious
[18:45] <darthanubis> useruser, whatever is onsale
[18:45] <segaboy> blb3383, they would get unbelievable amounts of heat changes to a different display server at this point...
[18:46] <OerHeks> blb3383, no, ubuntu is going to get MIR, not WAYLAND
[18:46] <al2o3-cr> useruser: samsung evo or if you got the money samsung pro imo
[18:47] <segaboy> OerHeks, the person asked about Weston, which is not Wayland.  Either way, it's an improbable prospect.
[18:47] <blb3383> what display server is going to be used on debian?
[18:47] <OerHeks> segaboy, never heard of weston.
[18:48] <OerHeks> blb3383, please ask in #debian. this is ubuntu support only.
[18:48] <blb3383> OerHeks: no, I'm just trying to figure out if they'll switch later to what debian will use
[18:49] <bazhang> blb3383, try ##linux
[18:49] <bazhang> blb3383, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:50] <geoffmcc> im at a bit of loss here and cant find answer on google. With both Samba & NFS, when I transfer large amounts of files it uses a bunch of ram, to be expected. However when tranfer is done, I never get it back. I check nmon and there is no cpu use and no disk write. I only get memory back if I unmount the drive. Any ideas why? Should I not be sharing a USB drive?
[18:50] <OerHeks> blb3383, no, ubuntu is going to get its own package managment too ... so figure out.
[18:50] <blb3383> OerHeks: so I've heard
[18:50] <blb3383> what's its name, somethings with s
[18:50] <SchrodingersScat> !ram | geoffmcc , you mean 'never get it back' like this?
[18:51] <b4tm4n> can i still use upstart scripts in 15.04 or do all init scripts need to be systemd?
[18:51] <blb3383> spotify blocks other words
[18:52] <b4tm4n> i'm confused becuase it looks like there are tons of upstart scripts in 15.04
[18:53] <zuron7> Question, is upgrading to 15.04 from 14.04 worth it?
[18:54] <Bashing-om> b4tm4n: Not running 15.04 as of yet, This https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers may help answer our questions.
[18:54] <darthanubis> zuron7, no one can answer that for you
[18:54] <b4tm4n> Bashing-om, yeah, been reading that but not really answering my questions
[18:54] <darthanubis> but no
[18:54] <darthanubis> nothing new or exciting. Read online reviews
[18:54] <zuron7> I mean in terms of stability, how is it?
[18:55] <zuron7> with regards to systemd
[18:55] <darthanubis> it's going to vary by machine
[18:55] <darthanubis> whats stable for me might not be for you
[18:55] <darthanubis> systemd is systemd
[18:56] <OerHeks> zuron7,  if you want stable, stick to 14.04 lts
[18:57] <brainwash> !lts
[18:57] <blb3383> this new ubuntu package management, are they suppose to ship statically liked stuff?
[18:57] <OerHeks> stable = boring, cutting edge = fun
[18:57] <zuron7> yep, i know that
[18:57] <xangua> !ot | blb3383
[18:57] <zuron7> was just curious about systemd
[18:58] <zuron7> https://devuan.org/
[18:58] <OerHeks> blb3383, take a read, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntu-15.10-deb-to-snap
[18:58] <zuron7> especially after reading that
[18:58] <darthanubis> zuron7, ask a systemd specific question related to ubuntu support
[18:58] <darthanubis> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:58] <zuron7> I'm just reading in general
[18:58] <zuron7> will come back after I know more.
[18:59] <blb3383> ah, it's called snappy, not spotify
[19:00] <geoffmcc> SchrodingersScat: I think so.. top says 3314748 and free -m says 2623436. This also explains why even with all the use, if I log in via ssh it tells me i am only using 4%
[19:01] <k1l_> blb3383: we cant tell you. it needs to be explained on the next UOS first
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> geoffmcc: then on the unmount it might decide it definitely doesn't need that anymore.  just a guess.  If you experience an problem then it would be worth looking into, otherwise it's not unusual for things to be kept in ram.
[19:05] <b4tm4n> without switching back to upstart on 15.04, can I still use upstart scripts?
[19:06] <geoffmcc> SchrodingersScat: yeah, I think you got it spot on.. Im going to transfer some files again and check agian. I also noticed the same thing while using vagrant. Would only show full mem on restart. I now think wasnt using as much ram as I originally thought. Thanks for the suggestion
[19:07] <b4tm4n> /etc/init/ still contains tons of upstart scripts
[19:08] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: After some thought, I think that is in case you wish to switch back to upstart
[19:09] <tonyyarusso> I have a system that I'm trying to triple-boot Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora.  For each of them the / is on a LUKS-encrypted LVM volume, and /boot is on a regular partition (sda1 for Debian, sda2 for Fedora, and sda3 for Ubuntu).  Right now os-prober/update-grub is only detecting Ubuntu.  How do I make it notice the other systems for the grub menu?
[19:10] <jeffreylevesque> i'm trying to mount a usb to my ubuntu VM
[19:10] <jeffreylevesque> do all mounts goto /media directory?
[19:10] <segaboy> jeffreylevesque, what hypervisor?
[19:10] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: also it was my understanding that /etc/init is systemd and /etc/init.d was upstart
[19:11] <brainwash> b4tm4n: still use them? what are you trying to do with them?
[19:11] <b4tm4n> geoffmcc, /etc/init is upstart
[19:11] <jeffreylevesque> virtualbox
[19:12] <brainwash> /etc/init.d is SysV
[19:12] <SchrodingersScat> jeffreylevesque: afaik they go it /media/$(whoami)/
[19:12] <jeffreylevesque> shoot ;(
[19:13] <k1l_> b4tm4n: you still can choose upstart in grub. so the "old" scripts need to be in place
[19:13] <genii> geoffmcc: /etc/init Upstart, /etc/init.d is both sysvinit and systemd
[19:13] <b4tm4n> brainwash, i just upgraded to 15.04 because I'm at the beginning stages of a project - I had already written several upstart scripts and am curious if I can use them without reverting back to upstart
[19:13] <jeffreylevesque> i created a usb filter in vagrant configs - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/iScanner/issues/30#issuecomment-98148465, the definition is correct i think
[19:13] <kaiioriblack> hola
[19:13] <brainwash> you can still select upstart in grub? wasn't this option removed after hitting final stage?
[19:13] <kaiioriblack> alguien en español
[19:13] <kaiioriblack> XD
[19:13] <jeffreylevesque> but, when i goto my VM, i don't see anythin in `/media/` directory
[19:13] <genii> !es | kaiioriblack
[19:13] <b4tm4n> brainwash, it's beginning to look like i need to rewrite them in systemd
[19:14] <brainwash> b4tm4n: indeed, try to convert them. should be easy
[19:14] <brainwash> b4tm4n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[19:14] <kaiioriblack> gracias ubottu
[19:14] <foo> How do I know what version of ubuntu I'm on ?
[19:15] <b4tm4n> brainwash, not for me... :)
[19:15] <k1l_> foo: "lsb_release -d"
[19:15] <brainwash> b4tm4n: just give it a try :P
[19:15] <b4tm4n> brainwash, oh, i will
[19:15] <nikolam> I don't have ANY sound on eeepc701, I have Xubuntu 12.04. It's kernel 3.2.0-48-generic
[19:16] <nikolam> it worked before updates on same hardware
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> nikolam  that 12.04?
[19:16] <nikolam> yes
[19:17] <t5un4m1> hello
[19:18] <t5un4m1> wondering if anyone has been experiencing these symptoms with ubuntu 15.04: hotkeys ctrl-alt-L stops working randomly, the mouse stops working randomly, trying to establish a pptp vpn connection bc /usr/sbin/pptp crashes
[19:20] <t5un4m1> also a shutdown causes a restart (but I'm pretty sure this is a kernel bug)
[19:21] <foo> k1l_: thank you
[19:21] <foo> Unfortunately, I need to downgrade to PHP 5.3 on Ubuntu 14.04. Any best practice to do this? Currently googling. Finding several answers but problems with the answers.
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade | foo
[19:22] <foo> ubottu: That's for downgrading PHP or Ubuntu?
[19:22] <foo> MonkeyDust: ^^
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> foo  try a newer version of php, but certainly not an older
[19:24] <foo> eh, this web system we have has some requirements with it. Thanks, I'll keep digging
[19:25] <nikolam> foo you can try comping older package by gettinng it's sources, but it would probably require other oder packages/libraries, too.
[19:25] <foo> nikolam: yeah, I saw someone suggest that, but all the results are ridden with errors. Currently looking at options. Thank you!
[19:26] <Guest18501> Is there some documentation on how to enable automatic startup of svnserve on Ubuntu 15.04, now that it uses systemd? The documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion mentions how to to it with "upstart", but not systemd. I would prefer not to use xinetd.
[19:27] <nikolam> foo, Maybe running older supported minimal installation release with older package inside, Xen, KVM, Virtualbox, LXC or other VM (docker) could be better.
[19:27] <chaser> hello everyone!
[19:27] <foo> nikolam: Docker could be interesting, I didn't think about that. Not a bad idea
[19:28] <OerHeks> there is a good wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[19:28] <Dro__> hi, how can i delete from line x to line y of a file
[19:28] <nikolam> foo, just make sure to avoid binary-only precooked VMs you can't reproduce yourself.
[19:29] <chaser> how can I find the new source list of the mint 17?
[19:29] <OerHeks> !mint
[19:29] <chaser> how can I find the new source list of the ubuntu?
[19:29] <k1l_> chaser: dont try to fool us. ask the mint support please
[19:29] <OerHeks> chaser, you will find it in their irc channel
[19:30] <genii> !mint
[19:30] <chaser> ok
[19:30] <chaser> got it!
[19:30] <chaser> THANKS!
[19:35] <xangua> another happy customer
[19:36] <nikolam> Dro__, see perl, grep, ack,
[19:39] <Boogie> Chromium signs out every time I close the application. Just now it wouldn't even open. Just reinstalled. Hoping this will fix. Happened after streaming movies on a crappy website. Any ideas what happened?
[19:39] <Boogie> Running 12.04
[19:39] <daftykins> check for iffy extensions
[19:40] <daftykins> but you appear to have said chromium and not chrome, so hmm
[19:40] <Boogie> Same difference, kind of.
[19:41] <Boogie> It opened this time.
[19:41] <Whitor> Hi all, Does anyone know of an image viewing and cataloging application that also lets you view .zip files as though they are directories?    I have one for windows... just looking for the same over here.
[19:41] <Boogie> It was already signed in. Wtf?
[19:44] <daftykins> Boogie: nah day and night difference :)
[19:44] <Boogie> Well, they act the same, I was meaning.
[19:45] <daftykins> err ok :)
[19:46] <TenLeftFingers_> Any ideas why I can't access my latest samba share from nautilus? I can connect from the CLI and nautilus will connect to the other shares but denies access to this one..
[19:46] <TenLeftFingers_> Firefox also can't connect so I'm guessing it's a config thing but I've done the usual suspects: checked the syntax of smb.conf with that tool (I forget the name), and restarted the server.
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> TenLeftFingers_  try gigolo
[19:47] <nikolam> Whitor, sounds like a job for file manager application, that unpack parts of archive one wans to read
[19:47] <TenLeftFingers_> MonkeyDust: I may do that, thank you.
[19:48] <Whitor> nikolam, the default archive manager application does this. I want to view all files contained as thumbnails.
[19:49] <Whitor> Thumbs Plus! does this
[19:49] <TenLeftFingers_> MonkeyDust: that did the trick - and even opened it in Nautilus! What the heck is this magic??
[19:49] <Whitor> I suppose I could try getting it working under wine... but that seems a little sloppy
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> TenLeftFingers_  glad you're helped
[19:51] <area51pilot_> area51pilot
[19:51] <Gamer> hi
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> area51pilot_  it works, we see you
[19:52] <area51pilot_> I was trying to remove the underscore
[19:52] <nikolam> Whitor, it depends on Desktop environment and it's file manager you use. Here is described ZIP solution on FUSE , mentioning KIO for GNOME. It's called VFS : https://code.google.com/p/fuse-zip/
[19:52] <cfhowlett> area51pilot, ask your ubuntu question
[19:52] <k1l_> area51pilot_: /nick newnick
[19:56] <nikolam> Whitor, using ZIP files locally for compression is LAME. One can use file-system level transparent compression, like on ZFS (zfsonlinux) with more compression algorithms to choose and BTRFS
[19:58] <petrvs> also, zip just sucks at compression
[19:58] <nikolam> all those nifty apps do is temporary unpacking file(s) from archives in temp foder for asking app. That can be done in one-liner script.
[20:00] <nikolam> yeah petris OpenZFS also have transparent lz4 (apart from gzip-9, lzma)
[20:01] <Whitor> nikolam, I didn't ask for your opinion on the use of zip files. But thank you anyway.
[20:01] <petrvs> zip!
[20:19] <Nitzerisch> hello, anyone plays OpenRA on Ubuntu?, OpenRa is red alert but rebuild with opensource community and works on linux like Ubuntu?
[20:20] <petrvs> Nitzerisch: pardon?
[20:21] <Nitzerisch> Open red alert game
[20:21] <OerHeks> Nitzerisch, via playdeb it is possible
[20:21] <petrvs> Nitzerisch: what about it?
[20:21] <Nitzerisch> just wondering, if anyone here plays it
[20:22] <petrvs> #polls-for-gamers =P
[20:23] <Nitzerisch> thx
[20:23] <darthanubis> !ot | Nitzerisch
[20:24] <tonyyarusso> I have a system that I'm trying to triple-boot Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora.  For each of them the / is on a LUKS-encrypted LVM volume, and /boot is on a regular partition (sda1 for Debian, sda2 for Fedora, and sda3 for Ubuntu).  Right now os-prober/update-grub is only detecting Ubuntu.  How do I make it notice the other systems for the grub menu?
[20:24] <petrvs> Nitzerisch: /msg alis list *openra*
[20:25] <petrvs> tonyyarusso: you can probably duplicate the grub.cfg lines from the other installs into each other
[20:25] <tonyyarusso> petrvs: How do I do it not manually - os-prober *should* be detecting them all.
[20:25] <petrvs> just find the relevant lines in the .cfg and add them
[20:25] <petrvs> in the custom file if you want
[20:26] <tonyyarusso> And then repeat the process every time there's a kernel update?  That's silly.
[20:26] <petrvs> in the custom file if you want
[20:26] <petrvs> try to keep up :p
[20:26] <tonyyarusso> That doesn't change what I just said.
[20:26] <petrvs> I wonder why people us grub-mkconfig
[20:27] <k1l_> tonyyarusso: you can setup own grub scripts to make the other entries
[20:28] <petrvs> might ask #grub about it, otherwise
[20:28] <petrvs> or... you could just pick one OS...
[20:28] <tonyyarusso> k1l_: What do you mean?  Shouldn't the existing scripts do it all?
[20:28] <cfhowlett> tonyyarusso, no.  that's why grub includes a whole category for adding OS's
[20:29] <tonyyarusso> It *used* to just detect everything...when was that capability removed?
[20:30] <bekks> tonyyarusso: Maybe it just has an issue with detecting your encrypted operating systems.
[20:30] <solsTiCe> hi. ealier, I opened gparted and I had to type my password. And I type it here. Why is this happening ? previously, there was that dark background that prevented any other app to tak keyboard focus when password was type ? what happened to that feature ?
[20:31] <tonyyarusso> bekks: Possibly, although normally I think it only needs to deal with the partitions used for /boot, which are not encrypted.  (Also, right now I have things set up to decrypt and mount everything, in case that was an issue - still nothing)
[20:31] <marianne> getting this error on 15.04 when updating software - W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[20:39] <Novice201y> Hi. I've .deb where app doesn't have all dependencies? Is there a cmd that will install this .deb with all needed dependencies>
[20:40] <bekks> Novice201y: Which dev for which app is it?
[20:40] <Novice201y> bekks, "dev"?
[20:40] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, installing .debs will NOT get you the dependencies.  use apt-get or the software center whenever possible
[20:40] <bekks> Novice201y: "deb".
[20:40] <Novice201y> cfhowlett, Not for this app :/
[20:41] <Novice201y> bekks, For Vivaldi web browser
[20:41] <octopiss> hi. I am trying to alter the drivers on my Ubuntu installation by using Ubuntu from a USB stick and chrooting into my installation. someone here told me how to do it, but I forgot. is there a guide somewhere on how to do this_
[20:41] <octopiss> ?
[20:42] <Bashing-om> marianne: To this time the "extras
[20:42] <bekks> Novice201y: So how do you try to install it?
[20:42] <vonsyd0w> Novice201y, is there an older version of vivaldi in the repositories? If so, I think you could use "get-build-deps" to install the dependencies beforehand
[20:42] <Novice201y> bekks, Double click.
[20:43] <Bashing-om> marianne: secton: of the repo for 15.04 have not been turned up .. diable and wait and see what the future is to be .
[20:43] <bekks> Novice201y: Better use a terminal and "sudo dpkg -i debfile"
[20:43] <marianne> Bashing-om: ok thank you very much  :-)
[20:43] <Novice201y> bekks, I'm on it.
[20:44] <vonsyd0w> pretty sure you'll get the same results when installing w/ terminal as you would when double clicking
[20:44] <marianne> Bashing-om: where would I find it listed, it's not in the software updater
[20:45] <Novice201y> bekks, There are listed needed dependencies. So could those be downloaded while installation of .deb?
[20:46] <bekks> Novice201y: You could have installed all of them manually meanwhile ;)
[20:46] <Novice201y> bekks, Not on computer, man! ;)
[20:46] <octopiss_> I messed up, Novice201y.
[20:47] <octopiss_> did anyone answer my earlier query?
[20:47] <deweydb_> can anyone tell me why my package manager is all messed up
[20:47] <deweydb_> http://pastie.org/private/dsnyajnilk4r5v3rh2xucg
[20:47] <Novice201y> bekks, What's the point of installing dependencies manually while it could be automated>
[20:47] <xangua> deweydb_: please upgrade or fresh install a supported ubuntu release
[20:47] <xangua> !saucy
[20:48] <charlie_sanders> wow, so they just drop support entirely ? good to know
[20:48] <deweydb_> oh dear, that is a lengthy solution.
[20:48] <xangua> charlie_sanders: normal releases have 9 months of support, LTS has 5 years
[20:48] <cfhowlett> deweydb_, as opposed to running an OS with NO updates or security?
[20:49] <deweydb_> waaa?
[20:49] <deweydb_> how out of date am i?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> deweydb_  fresh install is fastest, easiest, cleanest (backup first)
[20:49] <bekks> Novice201y: It cant be automated by using dpkg.
[20:49] <Mohican> does anyone know if ubuntu gnome 15.04 has got systemd native installed?
[20:49] <charlie_sanders> deweydb_, whos machine is this ?  Did you pick up an old laptop I mean ?
[20:49] <Novice201y> bekks, Weak :/
[20:49] <cfhowlett> deweydb_, 14.04 is the current LTS.
[20:50] <vonsyd0w> i just downloaded the Vivaldi deb and there are quite a few dependencies at least on 12.04
[20:50] <deweydb_> lol not a laptop
[20:50] <deweydb_> this is my webserver *blush*
[20:51] <k1l_> deweydb_: saucy is shut down long ago. it is heavily insecure now. make sure you update
[20:51] <deweydb_> yeah looks like thats what i'm doing this weekend...
[20:51] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | deweydb_
[20:52]  * charlie_sanders makes a note to only install the .04 distros
[20:52] <vonsyd0w> i would definitely recommend a LTS release for web servers or anything critical
[20:52] <Bashing-om> marianne: I do not have access presently to 15.04, so can not advise on the GUI menthod to disable. One can back up the file " /etc/apt/sources.list " and edit the file directly by commenting out that fetch line .
[20:52] <xangua> deweydb_: you had almost a year, do it now
[20:52] <k1l_> Mohican: all 15.04 do use systemd as default
[20:53] <Mohican> nice thanks
[20:53] <xangua> charlie_sanders: not all april releases are LTS, LTS is every two years, please read the topic
[20:53] <cfhowlett> deweydb consider your system fully vulnerable until you upgrade ...
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> charlie_sanders  guess you mean the lts releases?
[20:54] <octopiss_> how do I change graphics drivers when chrooting into a Ubuntu installation?
[20:54] <deweydb_> yes. thank you. i get the point. i am looking into upgrading right now.
[20:55] <petrvs> octopiss_: from what to what?
[20:56] <Novice201y> Thanks Guys. Cheers
[20:57] <JFlash> hey!
[20:57] <JFlash> can I get the UUID for my iDevice from the linux terminal?
[20:57] <bazhang> sudo blkid
[20:57] <JFlash> what
[20:57] <JFlash> just as simple as that?
[20:57] <bazhang> !blkid | JFlash
[20:58] <JFlash> no but this is like.. the hardware uuid
[20:58] <JFlash> I mean, whatever iNumber I need to create an iProvison on their developer iWebsite
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> JFlash  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what brings you here
[20:59] <trinaldi> Folks, yesterday I installed 15.04 in an empty SSD, everything went well. The system is working and all. But, GRUB only shows that gray color (I'm using UbuntuGNOME) and I can't read the entries. If I wait the 10s the system boots just fine. I've tried changing the colors using Grub-Customizer, but with no success. Do you guys have any idea? Thanks
[21:00] <JFlash> I'm developing a iPhone app. I need to give someone else the UUID of my iDevice , which normaly you can see by pressing a button on iTUnes. but I dont want to install iShit in my computer
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> JFlash  ok, and how is that ubuntu related?
[21:01] <bekks> You cannot install itunes on non-windows or non-osx.
[21:01] <petrvs> JFlash: plug it in, lsblk -f, maybe you'll get lucky
[21:01] <petrvs> bekks: sure you can
[21:01] <petrvs> not that you'd want to
[21:01] <bazhang> no cursing here JFlash
[21:01] <bekks> petrvs: Really? Since when is that supported? :)
[21:01] <petrvs> ages, it's just no fun
[21:02] <JFlash> lol, iShit is not even a word. how can it be cursing?
[21:02] <bekks> petrvs: At least not supported by Apple.
[21:02] <petrvs> but neither is iPhoo
[21:02] <bazhang> JFlash, just stop it
[21:02] <petrvs> apple doesn't really support iTunes installs afaik anyway
[21:02] <cfhowlett> JFlash, knock it off
[21:02] <bekks> petrvs: They do, on Windows and OSX. They dont have a Linux installer.
[21:02] <petrvs> anything a person understands as something is a word
[21:03] <trinaldi> anyone...?
[21:03] <petrvs> bekks: how would they know what OS you're using
[21:03] <petrvs> trinaldi: hi
[21:03] <JFlash> MonkeyDust, I just thought I could also get this number somehow without installing iTunes, maybe using just the terminal
[21:03] <bekks> petrvs: Ask them.
[21:03] <bekks> petrvs: itunes is totally unrelated to Ubuntu support.
[21:03] <petrvs> so why're you talking about it...
[21:03] <trinaldi> hi, petrvs
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> JFlash  why do you come to this channel, if it's about itunes?
[21:04] <bekks> petrvs: You said it is supported, see the backlog.
[21:04] <petrvs> trinaldi: what's up?
[21:04] <petrvs> bekks: sure didn't, see the backlog
[21:04] <trinaldi> I posted earlier:
[21:04] <trinaldi> Folks, yesterday I installed 15.04 in an empty SSD, everything went well. The system is working and all. But, GRUB only shows that gray color (I'm using UbuntuGNOME) and I can't read the entries. If I wait the 10s the system boots just fine. I've tried changing the colors using Grub-Customizer, but with no success. Do you guys have any idea? Thanks
[21:04] <JFlash> MonkeyDust, it's not about itunes, it's about linux or ubuntu being ablle to access some information from my iDevice
[21:04] <petrvs> trinaldi: it's gray?
[21:04] <petrvs> trinaldi: you only see gray?
[21:04] <bekks> petrvs: So you forgeot why you typed yourself. EOD.
[21:04] <bekks> *forgot
[21:04] <JFlash> I'll research around and let you guys know, thank you!
[21:05] <trinaldi> Yeah, it's the UbuntuGnome background. Not solid gray
[21:05] <cfhowlett> JFlash, idevices are no more supported than itunes.
[21:05] <cfhowlett> !itunes | JFlash
[21:05] <xangua> JFlash: other than barely  mounting and be able to transfer files, GNU/Linux can't access apple devices
[21:05] <k1l> JFlash: depends on the special hardware talks along the open standards or only talks to prop. itunes.
[21:06] <JFlash> thanks for the information, guys. I'll see what solution I can come up with
[21:07] <petrvs> bekks: nope, I just have o9k reading comprehension
[21:07] <JFlash> guys I found this: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9632/show-udid-of-iphone
[21:07] <petrvs> 'install' and 'supported by Ubuntu' are not the same thing
[21:07] <JFlash> could it be the solution?
[21:07]  * petrvs goes back to his deeds
[21:07] <bekks> petrvs: Do you know what "EOD" stands for?
[21:08] <JFlash> dammit! libimobiledevice-utils was what I was looking for!
[21:08] <JFlash> thank you guys, you are great!
[21:09] <petrvs> bekks: do you know what "IAAB" stands for?
[21:09] <daftykins> bekks + petrvs let's fight the common enemy here - not each other
[21:09] <bazhang> petrvs, take the chit chat elsewhere
[21:10] <petrvs> daftykins: where are those monsters...
[21:10] <petrvs> bazhang: he keeps asking me what initialisms mean
[21:11] <x1__> how do i wrap text in nano
[21:11] <x1__> ?
[21:11] <petrvs> trinaldi: so you just see an image?
[21:11] <petrvs> x1__: nano -w
[21:11] <Jakey2> how do i set in config file
[21:11] <petrvs> Jakey2: oh wrap is default
[21:12] <Jakey2> i get a dollar sign on mine
[21:12] <petrvs> yeah, that's wrapped
[21:12] <trinaldi> Yeah, petrvs. I saw a question on google earlier I can't find it
[21:12] <petrvs> oh that's the opposite
[21:12] <trinaldi> There's no response
[21:12] <petrvs> hrmmm, it should be the default
[21:12] <petrvs> Jakey2: try -r 8
[21:13] <petrvs> oh it's -8, so you'd want...
[21:13] <petrvs> -r $(bc <<< $(tput cols)-8)
[21:14] <petrvs> or something like that
[21:14] <Jakey2> ok thanks
[21:14] <petrvs> not sure why it's not reading your cols
[21:14] <petrvs> perhaps tput cols will also fail
[21:14] <petrvs> nano is better when it doesn't wrap, though, less chance it'll screw up your config files
[21:24] <svend> kjfrnjbngf
[21:28] <Felishia> helo?
[21:29] <Felishia> my computer won't connect to the internet
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> Felishia  wifi or cable?
[21:29] <stangeland> Hi, i want to write notes in markdown and convert those to pdf. How can i convert a markdown document to pdf in linux?
[21:29] <Felishia> Wifi
[21:29] <Felishia> however yesterday it connected
[21:30] <Felishia> after a few restarts
[21:30] <daftykins> Felishia: boot an older kernel to test perhaps
[21:30] <daftykins> eh? few restarts?
[21:30] <Felishia> yes
[21:30] <Felishia> I restarted it a few times and the wifi worked again
[21:30] <Felishia> now it doesn't matter
[21:30] <Felishia> it just doesn't work
[21:30] <daftykins> ah
[21:31] <daftykins> yeah try an older kernel
[21:32] <stacks88> does anyone know who patches things faster for software that comes w/ both debian and ubuntu ? like say for powerdns, on here http://doc.powerdns.com/md/security/powerdns-advisory-2015-01/ it says the date is april 23rd, 2015.. but it appears that ubuntu patched it april 29th, 2015 ? http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/p/pdns/pdns_3.3-2ubuntu0.1/changelog and debian jessie
[21:32] <stacks88> was april 21st, 2015.. http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/pdns/pdns_3.4.1-4+deb8u1_changelog .. is this just like a one time / rare thing or does debian generally patch things faster security wise vs ubuntu? or maybe im reading this all wrong..
[21:33] <k1l> stacks88: depends on patches, maintainer, depencies, software
[21:34] <bekks> stacks88: and the debian changelog is older than the upstream patch you referenced. so they werent faster, they didnt patch it :)
[21:35] <bekks> stacks88: plus, ubuntu and debian use different versions.
[21:36] <krushia> ~/close
[21:37] <mpontillo> stacks88: see https://askubuntu.com/questions/58364/whats-the-difference-between-multiverse-universe-restricted-and-main - in this case, that's a universe package (community maintained)
[21:37] <stacks88> oh shit ok
[21:38] <stacks88> mpontillo if my goal was to remain up to date w/ patches, should i restrict myself to main or something?
[21:38] <daftykins> stacks88: language :P
[21:38] <stacks88> sorry
[21:40] <mpontillo> stacks88: well, since packages in main packages are officially supported by Canonical, I would expect them to be patched faster, yes. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures
[21:40] <stacks88> thank you
[21:41] <mpontillo> stacks88: for vulnerabilities which are high risk throughout the industry, Canonical coordinates with other vendors to ensure the vulnerability can't be exploited before any single vendor patches it
[21:42] <mpontillo> stacks88: more light reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam ;-) you're welcome.
[22:04] <foo> Gah, I'm stuck. I have Apache + FastCGI. The problem: I am trying to run php 5.3 instead of 5.5 for some outdated software. I set up and installed php5.3 in /opt. The problem: I can't seem to figure out how to tell apache or php-fpm to use my version of php. Is there a specific flag/conf setting I should be looking for? I've checked nearly every conf file for php-fpm and apache and can't seem to spot it.
[22:07] <thc> nick teachese
[22:12] <keevitaja> anyone knows how to set chromes gmail shortcut as the default email client. somehow it doesn't show up in the settings
[22:12] <keevitaja> at the same time gnome-gmail is there.
[22:19] <stevesss1> so.. bug
[22:20] <stevesss1> kubuntu-desktop depends eventually on akonadi-server which requires akonadi-server-mysql  (even through it can be configured to use postgresql or sqlite backend)
[22:20] <stevesss1> thsi falsely requires only mysql-server-core-5.5 and mysql-client-core-5.5 and makes kubuntu incompatible with mysql 5.6
[22:20] <stevesss1> I'd like kubuntu with mysql-5.6
[22:21] <k1l> stevesss1: maybe the guys at #kubuntu do know better
[22:21] <stevesss1> (I manually modified the control file of the akonadi-server-mysql to allow mysql-server-core-5.6
[22:27] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[22:28] <kristofers> Hello
[22:28] <kristofers> Can someone help me figure something out here
[22:28] <kristofers> I'm trying to install Virtualbox on my ubuntu 14.04
[22:28] <carrera> I tried to install 15.04 over existing SoftRAID partitions made by 14.04 but the installer failed to install grub.  Naturally I was using the NetInstall due to my RAID drives
[22:28] <kristofers> When doing so i get an error, so i do apt-get install -f
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  what goes wrong
[22:29] <kristofers> And lists the dependencies missing, but it also wants to remove gnome-terminal gconf2
[22:29] <kristofers> i actually ran the install once, so it deleted my default terminal ...
[22:29] <kristofers> i run sudo dpkf -i virtual.deb
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  how did you install it?
[22:29] <kristofers> it fails so i then run sudo apt-get install -f
[22:29] <kristofers> and then i rerun the dpkg
[22:29] <kristofers> and it works
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  spare the enter key
[22:29] <kristofers> sorry
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  try installing it with the software center
[22:30] <carrera> Can anyone tell me why 15.04 installer fails to install grub?
[22:31] <daftykins> carrera: clearly it doesn't happen for everyone, so you might need to provide some detail
[22:32] <carrera> daftykins, I did:  I tried to install 15.04 over existing SoftRAID partitions made by 14.04 but the installer failed to install grub.  Naturally I was using the NetInstall due to my RAID drives
[22:32] <daftykins> fakeRAID?
[22:32] <kristofers> is gnome-terminal the default ubuntu terminal ?
[22:33] <daftykins> yes
[22:34] <k1l> kristofers: "ubuntu-desktop" should install that as a depency
[22:34] <kristofers> yes but somehow install -f
[22:34] <kristofers> apt-get install -f removed it
[22:34] <carrera> daftykins, Yes sir, SoftRAID
[22:34] <carrera> daftykins, it worked fine when installing 14.04 via NetInstall
[22:34] <k1l> kristofers: i dont know what you did there. running -f isntall blindly is not a good idea
[22:35] <daftykins> that's not a thing :)
[22:35] <kristofers> i just ran the software updater and it removed 212 packages
[22:35] <daftykins> carrera: you should be using mini.iso or server with 15.04 onto fakeRAID
[22:35] <kostkon> kristofers, removed??
[22:35] <kristofers> yes removed
[22:35] <carrera> daftykins, that's exacty what I used for both
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[22:35] <k1l> kristofers: stop running that blindly
[22:36] <daftykins> carrera: i mentioned two things
[22:36] <kristofers> why is it trying to remove everything
[22:36] <k1l> kristofers: please show the output in a pastebin
[22:36] <carrera> daftykins, I used the mini.iso file for both the 14.04 and the 15.04 installation
[22:36] <kristofers> i can't enter the os anymore
[22:36] <kristofers> just keeps sending me back to the login
[22:37] <daftykins> carrera: ok well maybe boot a desktop live session and chroot it
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: we dont know what you are doing there. in general vbox doesnt require to remove the half system
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: :/
[22:37] <carrera> daftykins, the Network Installer option takes you to the mini.iso file
[22:37] <daftykins> carrera: yeah yeah
[22:37] <kristofers> not vbox, update the system apparently needed to do so ...
[22:37] <kostkon> kristofers, try pressing ctrl+alt+f1  then  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: no!
[22:37] <carrera> daftykins, yeah yeah?
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  press ctrl-alt f1 ... can you login?
[22:37] <daftykins> that was a piece of info i did not need (:
[22:37] <keevitaja> anyone knows how to set chromes gmail shortcut as the default email client. somehow it doesn't show up in the settings
[22:37] <carrera> daftykins, I was trying to provide details
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: you isntalled faulty software that seems to mark a lot of packages to be removed.
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  and where did you get the vbox installer?
[22:38] <carrera> daftykins, I just tried installing Grub from the Rescue menu of the mini.iso but that failed too!
[22:38] <kristofers> official site
[22:39] <bekks> kristofers: Which package exactly did you use?
[22:39] <bekks> kristofers: What was the exact filename?
[22:39] <daftykins> carrera: do we get output? :)
[22:39] <nell> 14.04 isn't recognizing my pci express card adapter
[22:40] <nell> i have got a pci express card adapter for external video graphics card for my laptop
[22:40] <daftykins> nell: it might not, it might see the device plugged into it though
[22:40] <nell> nah it doesnt yet i checked dmesg
[22:40] <nell> [  387.058400] ACPI Warning: \_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20131115/nsarguments-95)
[22:40] <kristofers> i'm running apt-get update
[22:40] <nell> it says that
[22:40] <kristofers> but it says failed to reolve is.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:40] <daftykins> kristofers: misconfigured DNS?
[22:41] <carrera> daftykins, I ran sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/md125
[22:41] <kristofers> it's wifi
[22:41] <kristofers> ..
[22:41] <daftykins> kristofers: yes, and wifi can have misconfigured DNS!
[22:41] <carrera> daftykins, I got:  unrecognized option '--boot-directory=/mnt/boot/proc'
[22:41] <kristofers> will plug it in ethernet
[22:41] <kristofers> i know, i meant it's not connected sorry
[22:41] <daftykins> ah :D
[22:42] <carrera> daftykins, great... I hope you solved it!
[22:42] <daftykins> wat
[22:42] <linux_dream> hi guys, can I seek help in this channel for a game on steam + Lubuntu ?
[22:42] <daftykins> linux_dream: not really, #ubuntu-steam perhaps
[22:43] <linux_dream> ok thanks
[22:43] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to configure my wireless card to have an extra static IP address. Could you please tell me what is wrong with this configuration? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10965941/
[22:43] <carrera> daftykins, you said, "ah :D" right after I pasted the outpout. So I thought you found out the problem
[22:44] <daftykins> carrera: it wasn't to you.
[22:44] <JFlash> hi, how to switch from openJSK to oracle
[22:44] <daftykins> mojtaba: don't use interfaces and don't use multi-homed hosts on wlan0, use NM to set the static IP
[22:44] <JFlash> as my default java JDK
[22:45] <hellhound> Can someone assist me with sleep/suspend mode.  I have 14.10 installed and sleep/suspend will only work the first time the computer is booted up.  after that first sleep/suspend it will not do it again even through the command prompt until I restart.
[22:45] <bekks> !java | JFlash
[22:47] <daftykins> carrera: don't you run grub-install from inside the chroot?
[22:47] <daftykins> carrera: e.g. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[22:48] <carrera> daftykins, no sir
[22:48] <mojtaba> daftykins: Why not?
[22:48] <carrera> daftykins, I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[22:49] <mojtaba> daftykins: I am using virtual machine and it has another IP address, I want to be able to connect it.
[22:49] <kristofers> Alright i'm back in
[22:49] <kristofers> but now my wifi isn't working
[22:49] <daftykins> mojtaba: so you're trying to have two IPs on the wireless interface?
[22:49] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yes
[22:49] <daftykins> mojtaba: you're going about that all wrong, you should use bridging in the VM
[22:50] <mojtaba> daftykins: Actually it is a vagrant headless server
[22:50] <daftykins> i'm not sure how that affects what i suggested
[22:51] <mojtaba> daftykins: It has a vagrant config file and within that file I can change the IP address.
[22:52] <daftykins> i think you're changing the topic completely
[22:53] <kristofers> -.- alright i'm just going to reinstall ubuntu again
[22:54] <daftykins> kristofers: because you didn't get a response in 5 minutes?
[22:54] <kristofers> no
[22:54] <kristofers> because i want to redo a clean install from scratch and figure out what i did wrong
[22:56] <kristofers> Is there an option when doing an install -f to actually only do install and not remove anything ?
[22:57] <daftykins> kristofers: i'm not familiar with the circumstances that arose for you to end up running that
[22:59] <carrera> What is the difference between 14.04 LTS Netboot and 14.04 Netboot eith HWE?
[22:59] <carrera> s/eith/with/
[22:59] <hellhound> Can someone assist me with sleep/suspend mode.  I have 14.10 installed and sleep/suspend will only work the first time the computer is booted up.  after that first sleep/suspend it will not do it again even through the command prompt until I restart.
[23:00] <daftykins> carrera: HWE = hardware enablement stack of utopic most likely, so probably has the 3.16 kernel
[23:01] <carrera> daftykins, you're absolutely right.  I just read that. But why is the HWE only suported until 2016 vs 2019 for the regular 14.04?
[23:02] <daftykins> carrera: because utopic is not LTS
[23:02] <daftykins> i avoid installing 14.04.2 for this reason, i stick to the 3.13 kernel
[23:03] <carrera> daftykins, I wish they put version numbers on the mini.iso files too
[23:04] <daftykins> *shrug*
[23:04] <daftykins> it's easy to get lost
[23:05] <carrera> daftykins, so if I use the mini.iso from the 14.04 LTS link, I will get 14.04.1 and if I used the mini.iso from the utopic's 3.16 HWE link, I will get 14.04.2, right?
[23:05] <flipapy> does ubuntu 14.04 handle trim and the 'discard noatime' thing (im still kind of a newb) by default? or out of box? or will i need to enable these things after install?
[23:06] <flipapy> is that true? http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/12/22/0014225/out-of-the-box-ubuntu-1404-lts-to-support-trim-on-ssds
[23:06] <daftykins> carrera: 14.04.2 media just has the utopic HWE as standard, you can still be on 3.13 and be 14.04.2
[23:06] <bazhang> !trim | flipapy
[23:07] <flipapy> thank you bazhang
[23:07] <bazhang> welcome
[23:08] <carrera> daftykins, thank you. So where can I get the right mini.iso for 14.04.2?
[23:08] <daftykins> as in with 3.13? you can't. use an older one then dist-upgrade
[23:09] <carrera> daftykins, cause the last mini.iso I got around March 25, it installed 14.04.1 but 14.04.2 was out then
[23:11] <daftykins> pass
[23:12] <darthanubis> !themes
[23:12] <darthanubis> !changethemes
[23:12] <daftykins> darthanubis: you can do that in PM to the bot so as to avoid spamming the channel :)
[23:13] <darthanubis> sorry
[23:19] <flipapy> why is it suckh a problem to have the bar change size? (the bar at tiop screen with you know, the wifi signal icon, and the time and date. etc. why cant i move it around? or change the size of the icons and lettering/ font?
[23:19] <flipapy> such*
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  try unity-tweak-tool
[23:20] <flipapy>  think i jst realized it mght have to do with some gpu issues which makes it much more difficult to modify due to the proprietary stuff, am i right?
[23:20] <flipapy> MonkeyDust, thanks, but i hear the tweak tool might cause problems
[23:20] <flipapy> i dont want internal contradictions or anything
[23:21] <JFlash> guys, what is java auto mode and java manual mode
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  better ask "how" than "why"
[23:21] <JFlash> I just installed oracle java
[23:21] <JFlash> but apps keep launching using openjvm
[23:21] <daftykins> flipapy: GPU? no.
[23:22] <carrera> daftykins, I'm thinking of reinstalling 14.04 but I really wanted to try the new Xubuntu 15.04.  Is this hapenning because I have RAID?
[23:22] <daftykins> JFlash: yes you need to change your default.
[23:22] <JFlash> i typed --config java and I changed to oracle
[23:22] <JFlash> but app still runs with open jdk
[23:22] <JFlash> some jvms are listed as manual mode, but oracle is listed as automode
[23:23] <daftykins> restart.
[23:23] <flipapy> MonkeyDust, good point. i guess i meant not so 'how why' philosophically, but the reason that it is fixed in the first place. or the general forum there was perhpas if someone knows, i'll just chec online and see what i find, was just wondering if someone in the chan already had some deeper experience with it. but tanks i'e tried Tweak before, maybe i'll give it another shot.
[23:23] <JFlash> ok will try
[23:23] <hiexpo> change witch flash
[23:24] <daftykins> no, Flash was a super hero, not a witch
[23:24] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[23:25] <baudelaire> hi
[23:25] <baudelaire> hi all
[23:25] <hiexpo> baudelaire, you need help ?
[23:26] <hiexpo> ask your ?
[23:26] <harris> hey offtopic real fast anyone here have indesign
[23:26] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | harris
[23:26] <daftykins> harris: off topic means you don't ask it here.
[23:26] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:26] <baudelaire> no sorry. just trying to get a hang of ubuntu and checking out xchat
[23:27] <baudelaire> so is this pretty much where one comes for technical support?
[23:27] <JFlash> hi. restarting did not work and I can see JAVA_HOME still points to the openjdk
[23:27] <JFlash> how to fix this?
[23:28] <darthanubis> !support
[23:28] <netgear> hi room! anyone have opinions on system76's wild dog? from someone who does not want to build. :)
[23:28] <Bashing-om> baudelaire: For ubuntu tech support, yes .
[23:28] <JFlash> why --config-java does not update JAVA_HOME
[23:28] <Hanz_Zimmer> Hello everyone, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and I have a GTX 760. I have three monitors connected to the card. 2DVI are being used and 1HDMI to DVI cable is being used. When I turn on my computer, the monitor connected to the first DVI port is used for BIOS, Grub, and booting.  But once the login screen appears, that monitor turns off and the Second DVI montior as well as the HDMI monitor turn on. Then, in Ubuntu, the first DVI m
[23:29] <SchrodingersScat> JFlash: this could be the ticket? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing_the_default_Java_to_use
[23:29] <Hanz_Zimmer> I've tried both the open source driver and the proprietary driver.
[23:29] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: you can't type that long a message on IRC :) "...in Ubuntu, the first DVI m..." is as far as we got
[23:29] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, thank you
[23:29] <flipapy> Hanz_Zimmer, all i know about is the check for additional drivers thing, dod you check for aditional hardware drivers yet?
[23:29] <flipapy> oh nvm, gthats all i know about for now Hanz_Zimmer
[23:29] <daftykins> flipapy: best to stay quiet when you really don't know
[23:30] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: get yourself the xorg-edgers PPA installed and try a newer driver
[23:30] <netgear> i am having issues with DVI skipping bios and just coming on when ubuntu logs in. started out of no where very weird.... also tried turning off fast boot in bios with no luck. and trying a new DVI.. :(
[23:30] <Hanz_Zimmer> What is the name of the package?
[23:31] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, that page doesnt say anything about JAVA_HOME, unfortunately
[23:31] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: i dunno read what they have version # wise then install nvidia-###
[23:31] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: a PPA is not a package
[23:31] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, I already run the installation and configuration, my problem is with JAVA_HOME
[23:32] <Hanz_Zimmer> I know it's not. I added teh PPA. I was wondering what the name of the file I was supposed to download was. I'll figure it out
[23:32] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, when I type java --version it tells me correct java (oracle), but JAVA_HOME points to something else!
[23:32] <SchrodingersScat> JFlash: I misunderstood then, I thought you were trying to use a different version of java.
[23:32] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, ok, no problem
[23:33] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, you know what I must be seeting the java home var manually inside some file, I will check it out. thanks
[23:34] <SchrodingersScat> JFlash: yeah, I don't have that on mine.
[23:48] <netgear> anyone know the quality of system76's wild dog ubuntu box?
[23:49] <daftykins> netgear: i bet they do
[23:49] <netgear> i hope not bad i actually just got one lol.... did not want to build.
[23:49] <daftykins> netgear: ah, well feel free to come back with ubuntu support questions
[23:50] <netgear> i have a issue with DVI suddenly it skips bios and loads when ubuntu logs in?
[23:50] <netgear> it worked for 3 weeks did not change anything major...
[23:50] <daftykins> DVI does not load
[23:50] <netgear> VGA works
[23:51] <netgear> it has for a long time now it just loads when i login skipping bios.
[23:51] <daftykins> so when you hit power - you get to ubuntu just fine?
[23:51] <netgear> tried a new wire tested monitor with old comp ect...
[23:51] <netgear> well the screen turns on when ubuntu loads but sometimes it stays off now
[23:52] <daftykins> power save mode when a DVI connection is used?
[23:52] <netgear> for awhile it was only skipping bios and ubuntu pic while loading
[23:52] <netgear> its a pc not sure?
[23:52] <daftykins> well i was definitely sure you weren't plugging a koala into your monitor
[23:52] <netgear> i sent a message to system76 but just seems weird how it worked for weeks and vga works perfect.
[23:53] <netgear> positive been messing with it for few days two wires...
[23:53] <netgear> broke out of no where too, i did not remove or ever enter bios
[23:53] <daftykins> just to be sure - only the DVI cable is plugged into the graphics card when you try that, yes?
[23:53] <netgear> i am using on board graphics i7 btw
[23:53] <daftykins> ah
[23:53] <netgear> yep thats the only setup i use, one monitor
[23:54] <daftykins> right but *only* the DVI cable is in? you haven't got both in at once?
[23:54] <netgear> i had to dig out the vga to get on ubuntu cause it stopped loading, screen stays sleep
[23:54] <daftykins> yes, power save mode
[23:54] <netgear> 1 wire correct. weird, yes?
[23:54] <daftykins> a little.
[23:54] <netgear> right i can tell ubuntu loads but screen is like powered sleep
[23:55] <daftykins> i'm torn really because you have a pay for support option, so it makes more sense to use that
[23:55] <netgear> im sorta worried the i7 may be messed up but its new
[23:55] <daftykins> the computer would not work at all if a processor were damaged.
[23:55] <netgear> they have 1 year system76 i believe but is it worth sending back i suggose
[23:56] <netgear> my monitor takes only VGA or DIV nothing else :(
[23:56] <daftykins> netgear: why don't you phone them?
[23:56] <netgear> they were closed i left a message and sent an email
[23:56] <daftykins> try again when they're open
[23:56] <netgear> just curious any other opinions, thanks a lot tho
[23:56] <netgear> i will, would u send it back over this personally if it does not fix?
[23:57] <daftykins> no
[23:57] <netgear> could on board graphics be a sign of the processor breaking?
[23:57] <netgear> cool
[23:57] <daftykins> but then i have many years experience building and diagnosing PCs
[23:57] <netgear> i appreciate your time :)
[23:57] <daftykins> nah sounds more like a software issue
[23:57] <netgear> oh i suppose i could get a card if i need dvi later.
[23:57] <netgear> i did a fresh format
[23:57] <netgear> twice lol
[23:57] <daftykins> with which version?
[23:58] <netgear> and it worked 2 weeks ago :(
[23:58] <netgear> the new, then back to 14.10
[23:58] <netgear> it worked on 14.10 for weeks so its weird
[23:58] <netgear> comp is less than a month old, i dont play games so was not worried about getting a graphic card
[23:59] <netgear> unless it damages the i7 i rather use on board
[23:59] <daftykins> perhaps you're installing with updates enabled and keep booting into a non-working kernel