[05:26] <MobileTurkey> damnit
[09:14] <rmg51> Morning
[10:36] <jedijf> MobileTurkey: watch the F bombs....ubuntu rules in effect
[12:10] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[13:15] <ChinnoDog> morning
[15:27] <MobileTurkey> jedijf: sorry


[07:40] <dholbach> good morning
[08:04] <geser> good morning
[08:24] <dupondje> Could somebody sponsor https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opensc/+bug/1252254 ?
[08:30] <geser> dupondje: subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors team, I don't know if the ubuntu review team is still operational
[08:30] <dupondje> k
[08:31] <dupondje> done :)
[08:34] <geser> do you think this should be fixed in saucy too or is fixing it only for trusty "enough"?
[08:51] <dupondje> geser: well it doesn't hurt to patch it in saucy also, cause its prolly broken there also
[08:57] <geser> I've opened a saucy task for it then
[15:26] <dholbach> micahg, about the ubuntu-uploaders team... do they have voting rights for the TB or will that stay with just ubuntu-dev?
[15:27] <dholbach> micahg, can the ubuntu-uploaders team get an emblem please? just so it's easier to see if somebody is an uploader or not
[15:28] <dholbach> micahg, I don't care too much what is put up there, maybe just use a wrench symbol that's in /usr/share/icons somewhere until somebody comes up with anything better
[21:03] <jtaylor> is there a way to get who synced a package?
[21:22] <Zhenech> shouldnt lp know who sponsored the upload?
[22:06] <Logan_> jtaylor: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/<release where synced>/+source/<source package name>/<version of synced package>
[22:07] <Logan_> For example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/yade/1.05.0-2
[22:07] <Logan_> "Copied from debian sid in Primary Archive for Debian GNU/Linux by Jackson Doak (sponsored by Logan Rosen)"
[22:09] <jtaylor> doesn't work for spatialindex which has been autosynced since :/
[22:09] <Logan_> I think that was me, lol.
[22:09] <jtaylor> oh no its there
[22:09] <jtaylor> it was you .)
[22:09] <Logan_> What's up?
[22:09] <jtaylor> just a comment, check the fix before syncing, it was broken :)
[22:09] <jtaylor> fixed in -2
[22:09] <jtaylor> which is autosynced now
[22:10] <Logan_> I synced -2.
[22:10] <jtaylor> oO
[22:10] <jtaylor> oh sorry then
[22:10] <jtaylor> that was fast
[22:10] <Logan_> No worries. :P
[22:10] <jtaylor> I only just got the close message
[22:10] <Logan_> We never had 1.8.1-1 in Trusty.
[22:10] <Logan_> I did it 15 hours ago! :P
[22:11] <jtaylor> I looked at the general source not trusty
[22:11] <jtaylor> that says (sponsored by Ubuntu Archive Robot)
[22:11] <Logan_> Ah.
[22:11] <jtaylor> so i thought -1 was already synced
[22:11] <Logan_> Yeah, that's for release.
[22:12] <jtaylor> how did you find this sync?
[22:12] <jtaylor> you look at mergomatic often?
[22:13] <jtaylor> I notice someone steals my syncs, probably you :P
[22:13] <jtaylor> I only check it every few weeks :/
[22:14] <jtaylor> "steals" I don't mind of course :)
[22:14] <Logan_> It was actually because I introduced a delta.
[22:14] <Logan_> On top of the delta, I think.
[22:14] <Logan_> Fixing an FTBFS on ppc64el.
[22:14] <Logan_> I submitted the patch to Debian, and then it was closed. So it showed up with my name on MoM. :P
[22:14] <jtaylor> a right
[22:14] <Logan_> Since it fixed the previous delta as well, I synced.
[22:15] <Logan_> Oh, I'm basically a felon when it comes to stealing syncs. Working on that, though.
[22:22] <cjwatson> I'm not sure stealing syncs is generally a problem - TIL status will be lost either way and any duplicated work is often (not always of course) fairly trivial
[22:22] <cjwatson> obviously only if one gets it right :)
[22:24] <jtaylor> Logan_: sweet you also closed the bug :)
[22:25] <Logan_> :D
[22:25] <jtaylor> nice work
[22:25] <Logan_> Thanks. :)
[22:26] <Logan_> cjwatson: Well, one person raged at me for taking their sync because apparently they were testing it just as I synced, but that's the only complaint about syncs that I've gotten. Merges are more controversial. :P
[22:27] <jtaylor> in this cause it wasn't even "my" sync, I didn't fix it in ubuntu like I though I did :/
[23:49] <Noskcaj> Did the dbm discuss my motu membership at the meeting last night
[23:50] <cjwatson> irclogs.ubuntu.com
[23:51] <Noskcaj> so, nope


[10:59] <doko> hi, any reason that #ubuntu-java is forwarded to #ubuntu?
[12:47] <PriceChild> doko: hey. The channel was unused and we were receiving complaints about it.
[12:54] <doko> PriceChild: please revert this; it's still used, the misue was yesterday for the first time
[13:01] <PriceChild> doko: I have reopenned the channel.
[13:06] <doko> PriceChild: thanks!
[14:24] <PriceChild> doko: The channel not going to be used? :/
[14:26] <doko> PriceChild: from time to time ...


 Off to a good start on your day .
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> hello Bashing-om
[03:45] <nathan420> hi
[03:45] <nathan420> what is your favorite operating system"?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu!
[03:46] <nathan420> why is it better than windows?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> because of everything
[03:46] <oerheks> what is windows?
[03:46] <nathan420> why is it better than macos?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: try it yourself and find out
[03:46] <nathan420> i have
[03:46] <nathan420> i haven't tried 17.04 yet
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: whats your conclusion?
[03:46] <nathan420> well it's nice but it lacks in interface
[03:47] <nathan420> also i prefer mac because of it not crashing as much as ubuntu did when i installed stuff
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: you can choose different flavors/interfaces
[03:47] <nathan420> macos is retard proof while ubuntu requires the user to know what they're doing and challenges them to learn more
[03:47] <Ben64> not true
[03:47] <oerheks> overpriced child-labor hardware ... meh
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: define 'crash' on ubuntu?
[03:47] <nathan420> system program error detected
[03:47] <nathan420> on startup
[03:48] <nathan420> after installing packages
[03:48] <nathan420> and i get like 20 of those windows
[03:48] <nathan420> but that's because i am retarded and don't know what i'm doing or why i'm getting those errors
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: thats not a crash, its a bug you can report
[03:48] <oerheks> LoLz .. but you haven't tried 17.04
[03:48] <Ben64> did you click on it to find more information
[03:48] <nathan420> i did
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: what did it say?
[03:48] <nathan420> did i know what any of that meant? absolutely not
[03:49] <nathan420> if they could make an interface that is just as good as macos then it'd be the best os in the world
[03:49] <nathan420> just my opinion
[03:49] <nathan420> but ubuntu doesn't have apple's budget
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: if mac is the best, why did you ask the question?
[03:50] <nathan420> ubuntu is excellent
[03:50] <Menzador> But macOS is superior?
[03:50] <Menzador> I don't understand.
[03:51] <nathan420> there needs to be a support guide that offers videos and reading guides for those people like me who are complete morons
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> g0d355__: morning
[03:51] <Bashing-om> nathan420: Try the xfce4 desktop .
[03:51] <nathan420> i have
[03:51] <nathan420> i've also tried other desktops
[03:51] <nathan420> i think that causes bugs
[03:51] <nathan420> like the different desktop variations
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: ubuntu has tons of support, what are you talking about?
[03:51] <nathan420> no i mean like new users are told to rtfm
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: please dont generalize things, you can only speak of your system
[03:52] <Menzador> Really?  That is not in our way or the best interest .
[03:55] <oerheks> what is wrong with rtfm ?
[03:56] <nathan420> i don't pay attention and i read the first few letters of every word to determine what it is and i skim over text which causes more problems for me and i don't care to fix it because that makes me read at 5350 wors per minute
[03:56] <Menzador> !rtfm | oerheks , feel free to read
[03:56] <Menzador> yikes
[03:56] <Menzador> we don't have that factoid anymore!
[03:56] <Menzador> oerheks: First off it uses the f-word
[03:56] <nathan420> the first time i tried ubuntu i was constantly told to rtfm
[03:56] <Ben64> by who
[03:56] <nathan420> people online
[03:56] <Menzador> nathan420: When was this?
[03:57] <nathan420> 12 years ago just about
[03:57] <Ben64> that doesn't happen in #ubuntu
[03:57] <Ben64> lol
[03:57] <Menzador> people where online?
[03:57] <nathan420> yeah
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: ubuntu is for novice and expert users...define what you mean by idiot proof, what should ubuntu do?
[03:57] <Ben64> i'll tell people occasionally to check the manual, but it's to help them help themselves
[03:57] <nathan420> i think ubuntu should lock things right out of the box
[03:57] <nathan420> just like apple
[03:57] <Menzador> "Ubuntu killed my pet budgerigar!"
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: it already does
[03:58] <Menzador> "Ubuntu tore down an entire skyscraper in 2 minutes!"
[03:58] <Ben64> the whole point is to give choice
[03:58] <Menzador> "Ubuntu ate my homework!"
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:58] <Menzador> (Ooh, 1 outta 3 ain't bad.)
[03:58] <nathan420> i don't know if failsafes for failed installs exist
[03:58] <nathan420> because it sure doesn't feel like it
[03:59] <Menzador> Why does your system need to be failsafe?
[03:59] <nathan420> because i fail more than i succeed
[03:59] <nathan420> i'm a living failure
[03:59] <Menzador> Especially since I know people who need their system to break on a regular basis
[03:59] <Ben64> you need more self confidence
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: your trolling from one topic to another..avoiding straight answers
[03:59] <Menzador> Because if it doesn't break it's a false positive :P
[03:59] <nathan420> i'm not trolling
[03:59] <nathan420> and it's you're not your
[03:59] <Bashing-om> nathan420: Consider, that one is only as good as the tools they use. We do work hard to push to get you up on the learning curve - not tear you down  :)
[04:00] <Menzador> Happy Saturday, ET USA!
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: so from all this said...whats your end conclusion for ubuntu?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: you are now at a point to make choices
[04:02] <nathan420> what i am going to dedicate my time to in the upcoming future is make ubuntu great by providing guides and curated content by experts and upload it to the internet and have a nice interface where people can look at it and will look through it
[04:02] <nathan420> but feel free to steal this idea
[04:02] <nathan420> if it won't happen i'll do it but i take a long time to do things because i am lazier than a turtle
[04:03] <nacc> nathan420: your time would probably be better spent improving the official documentation
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: ubuntu's website has a virtual tour for years
[04:03] <nathan420> virtual tour?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: to have a look at the nice interface?
[04:03] <nacc> and i don't understand how you deciding to do something ensures you get curated content by experts -- seems like we'd already have that
[04:04] <oerheks> turtles are faster ..
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:04] <nathan420> no i'd just ask people and then have a bunch of people bash it like peer reviewed articles
[04:04] <nathan420> in that fashion lol
[04:04] <oerheks> oh no, are you an omgubuntu reporter?
[04:04] <nacc> asking people does not make it 'content by experts'
[04:04] <nathan420> yes it does
[04:04] <nathan420> especially when people who are high up there
[04:04] <nacc> you have to ask *experts* to make it 'content by experts'
[04:05] <nacc> not "people"
[04:05] <nathan420> assholes by the likes of linus torvalds
[04:05] <nathan420> and such
[04:05] <nacc> alright someone ban nathan420
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> nathan420: please keep it polite here
[04:05] <nacc> no time for that garbage
[04:05] <nathan420> because i am calling linus torvalds what he is?
[04:05] <nathan420> i respect the guy for his great input
[04:05] <nathan420> and him being an asshole is just great for things like this
[04:05] <nacc> nathan420: because you didn't read the /topic, clearly, and the guidelines clearly state policy for language
[04:05] <nacc> also what does linus have to do with ubuntu?
[04:05] <nathan420> asshole is not a bad word
[04:06] <nathan420> he invented ubuntu
[04:06] <nacc> lol
[04:06] <nacc> nathan420: ok, you're absolutely a troll
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | nathan420 read here
[04:06] <nathan420> he and mark shuttleworth
[04:06] <nathan420> mark shuttleworth worked closely with linus torvalds
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> !info bonnie++ | Bashing-om
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> https://yunit.io/
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> the unity8 fork is born :p #yunit
[05:15] <EriC^^> morning guys
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[05:16] <Bashing-om> hey EriC^^ .. Good that you are able to be here . Glad to read ya ;)
[05:16] <EriC^^> hey Bashing-om lotuspsychje
[06:18] <ducasse> hi all
[06:29] <Bashing-om> *ducasse* slips in while I was not looking :)
[06:30] <ducasse> hiya, Bashing-om - how's life? :)
[06:31] <Bashing-om> ducasse: System still beating me up .. lotus is alleviating the best he can :) Got a coule of other things to do to see if we can isolate the freezing issue .
[06:32] <ducasse> it's freezing again? i thought that got fixed :(
[06:35] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Nawww .. no fix yet . Keep messing about and hope for the best . Sometrimes will go for days at a time with no problems . and sometimes it takes these freezing incidents one after the other . - nothing consistent I can lay it too !
[06:37] <ducasse> i had these mysterious crashes where my desktop would suddenly hard-reset for no apparent reason while i was working on it remotely.
[06:37] <Bashing-om> ducasse: lotuspsychje Has given me a couple of ideas to play around with .
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> morning ducasse
[06:37] <ducasse> then i discovered it got warm, so my cat slept on top of it, and when she woke up she pressed the reset button :)
[06:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:38] <ducasse> hi lo* :)
[06:38] <Bashing-om> ducasse: I have learned to save all my work *frequently* .
[06:38] <ducasse> autosave ftw
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> morning lordievader
[06:39] <lordievader> Hey ducasse, lotuspsychje
[06:40] <ducasse> how are you two? any easter plans?
[06:40] <ducasse> Bashing-om: have you got another machine on the same network?
[06:41] <Bashing-om> ducasse: No - not yet .. that too is in the planning stage . See if I can SSH into this box when it freezes .
[06:42] <ducasse> Bashing-om: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole
[06:42] <Bashing-om> ducasse: reading .
[06:43] <ducasse> Bashing-om: it might give you a better view of the crash than a local log
[06:45] <lordievader> ducasse: Doing good. Other than having some nice food, not really. Do you have any plans?
[06:46] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Logging is not pertanent./ when the freeze happens nothing is logged - yea I been tailing /var/log/syslog and journalctl and as well top . Not a thing to note and then suddemly no mouse or keyboard and time is stopped on the clock . Seems to networking is down - so maybe a waste of time to try and SSH in ..
[06:46] <lordievader> Memory full?
[06:46] <lordievader> I.e. lots of swapping going on.
[06:47] <Bashing-om> not according to top . lordievader - was running all day this day with a minimal load on the system and still got a freeze incident .
[06:48] <ducasse> lordievader: my mother and sister might visit, so i'll be cooking dinner for them. other than that, just play with arch etc :)
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: cool! here same friends over dinner
[06:48] <Bashing-om> lordievader: I watch for swapping and it is rare that I have enough going on to touch swap .
[06:49] <ducasse> Bashing-om: it could be just a gui crash or something, so i'd still try ssh and/or netconsole
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast
[06:49] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Yeah .. is in the works :)
[06:50] <lordievader> Bashing-om: Annoying issue.
[06:51] <ducasse> Bashing-om: this is the same machine you did the bios update on, right?
[06:57] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Affirmative . latest bios to try and get the ole box up to SSD standards . Found out to set raid enabled to have AHCI .
[07:05] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i see lotus suggests stressing the system, try 'stress' in addition to bonnie++ - bonnie is mostly for i/o.
[07:08] <Bashing-om> ducasse: K; will do that too . I was real disappointed in that this day I deliberaely did not load up the system, and still got a freeze . Most all set back to defaults.
[07:12] <Bashing-om> diarpi: stress installed - will run in the AM see what I can learn .
[07:20] <ducasse> Bashing-om: hope it reveals something, you must have tested just about everything now :)
[07:21] <lordievader> Could it be a bad PSU?
[07:22] <lordievader> They give the strangest behaviour.
[07:22] <lordievader> The computer of my father would just randomly restart.
[07:22] <Bashing-om> lordievader: Thought that too, pulled 2 drives to lessen the load .
[07:22] <lordievader> Replaced the PSU, gone issue.
[07:31] <Bashing-om> Should not fjewio - in main - be directed to #ubuntu-ops ?
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: he has 750 watt, should be plenty
[07:51] <lordievader> There is a difference between enough watts and a bad PSU ;)
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the freezes started when plugged his ssd, hence why the bonnie stresstest
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: true, but bad psu results mostly in pc shutdown
[07:56] <lordievader> Well in my experience, it can have very strange results.
[07:57] <Bashing-om> lordievader: PSU: Beefy fans on this box that are loud and I note no change in the fan noise when the system freezes up .
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> welcome avis
[08:04] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i second lordievader's suggestion to test the psu if you can, it can indeed have strange results
[08:06] <Bashing-om> ducasse: lordievader : On my list to get a new test meter , present one got wet and that was the end of the fluke :(
[08:12] <ducasse> Bashing-om: or test with another psu if you have a spare
[08:14] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Is a good thought . see what I can pull out of the rust pile .
[08:17] <ducasse> Bashing-om: what happens if you remove the ssd - is it stable then?
[08:18] <ducasse> (sorry if i've asked before)
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> bbl shop
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:08] <ducasse> good morning, BluesKaj
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hey ducasse
[13:11] <BluesKaj> I just read that Fedora 25 with Gnome 3.22 is using Wayland instead of X and it's very smooth, unfortunately not so great on nvidia gpus
[13:13] <ducasse> i know, i was actually thinking of testing it out myself. i've played with wayland on my laptop, and it was super smooth compared to x. felt very 'silky', if you know what i mean?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:16] <BluesKaj> thining of trying it on my laptop as well, no nvidia there
[13:16] <BluesKaj> thinking
[13:18] <ducasse> amd (radeon driver) on my laptop, intel in the desktop. that's the one i'm most curious about, i'll have to install wayland on it and see. there's a ppa with fairly updated packages.
[13:19] <ducasse> i had trouble building the compositor i want on ubuntu, though, some libs it wasn't too happy about. nearly led to deps hell, so i'm wary of trying again.
[13:20] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[13:21] <ducasse> \o pauljw :)
[13:21] <pauljw> o/
[13:24] <Oerheks> :-)
[13:25] <ducasse> Oerheks: wb :)
[13:25] <pauljw> hey Oerheks
[13:28] <ducasse> has any of you tested the iridium browser?
[13:28] <Oerheks> just got back in, from easter-shopping ....... crazy people
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw
[13:37]  * BluesKaj checks iridium browser
[13:38]  * ducasse clicks 'download'
[13:42]  * Oerheks kills a process and goes to jail
[13:44]  * ducasse bakes a cake for Oerheks with an exploit inside
[13:46] <Oerheks> heya xangua :-D
[13:46] <xangua> Hi
[13:54] <BluesKaj> odd the commands to setup the repos for the browser fail to do anything in the terminal here
[13:55] <BluesKaj> anyway i'm not that curious, I already run chrome
[13:55] <ducasse> worked fine here
[13:56] <BluesKaj> ducasse:  this ? https://iridiumbrowser.de/downloads/linux.html
[13:57] <ducasse> BluesKaj: yep. oddly, the first thing it did on startup was to ask if i wanted to log in to google :) (the faq warns about this, though, but i don't understand why they didn't just remove it)
[13:59] <BluesKaj> I'm on debian atm, it failed to insta;ll the repos so no bpackage was available
[14:01] <pauljw> hi BluesKaj :)
[14:01] <pauljw> was outside with Jack...
[14:03] <BluesKaj> ok wirking now, had to install apt-transport-https
[14:17] <BluesKaj> very simiilar to chrome pauljw, seems ok tho , but I'll stick with chrome
[14:19] <ducasse> i'm kind of interested in all the anti-data-leaking features, will try it out some.
[16:56] <BluesKaj> installed fedora 25 with gnome3.22, seems slick etc with wayland , but that doesn't help much when you don't like the DE, so I don't think it's long for my laptop .
[16:59] <brunch875> BluesKaj, I thought I was the only one who was giving fedora a try
[17:00] <brunch875> I like how I get python3.6 and git 2.12 on fedora+1
[17:01] <pauljw> BluesKaj, aren't there other DEs available to install?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> hmm, sftp just crashed my whole network.  Was transferring some pics from the this pc to the laptop and it also knocked wife's pc offline and my laptop. Trying rsync instead and so far so good.
[23:19] <Bashing-om> I'm Baaccckkk :) Ready or not here I come .
[23:20] <daftykins> :D wb!
[23:24] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Let's see if and how long I can stay up // See what happens now with this ole box here .
[23:31] <daftykins> well that didn't look good...


[01:27] <Ubulette> damn, softokn3 should not be in /usr/lib/nss. is debian really testing its stuff?
[01:38] <CheGuevara> what did i do
[11:50] <armin76> heh
[11:50] <armin76> working on mozilla stuff sucks, uh? :D
[12:19] <asac> armin76: ?
[12:21] <armin76> asac: it doesn't suck? :P
[12:24] <asac> I'd say it depends :)
[12:25] <armin76> well, i wasn't supposed to do mozilla stuff, i was only supposed to do the -bin stuff
[12:25] <armin76> but everyone at the team left, so i'm alone
[12:25] <asac> the -bin stuff? whats that?
[12:26] <armin76> the binary provided by mozilla
[12:26] <asac> ah
[12:28] <asac> now look at this ... iceowl failed on powerpc and arm :/
[12:28] <asac> http://buildd.debian.org/build.cgi?pkg=iceowl
[12:28] <armin76> lol
[12:28] <armin76> wtf is iceowl?
[12:28] <asac> icedove however failed on s390 only
[12:29] <armin76> sunbird?
[12:29] <asac> sunbird yeah
[12:32] <armin76> dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libxpcom.so
[12:32] <asac> it looks like dpkg breakage
[12:37] <armin76> i don't think any mozilla stuff will work on s390 :P
[12:40] <asac> on arm C++ cannot create executables ... even though it works for icedove
[12:40] <asac> thats too sucky ... so yes: it sucks ;)
[12:42] <asac> armin76: do you have arm+powerpc avail?
[12:42] <armin76> arm no, ppc yes
[12:43] <asac> s390 ;) ?
[12:43] <armin76> the arm dev box broke some weeks ago
[12:43] <armin76> nope, but i could
[12:44] <armin76> in fact i'm just asking to get access atm :P
[12:45] <armin76> although i believe buidling mozilla on s390 is pointless
[12:45] <armin76> doesn''t have display hardware
[12:46] <asac> damn i forget to include the s390 patch for icedove
[12:47] <asac> armin76: afaik redhat supports it
[13:04]  * asac away getting drugs to kill this flu :(
[17:43] <asac> armin76: could you attach the updated sparc patch to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161826
[17:43] <asac> ?
[17:43] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 161826 in Layout: Fonts and Text "nsTextFrame::MeasureText()'s fast text measuring codepath crashes on RISC machines" [Critical,New]
[17:44] <armin76> sure
[17:52] <armin76> done
[17:53] <Ubulette> what do you think about bug 145218 ?
[17:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145218 in firefox-3.0 ""Open with, Other" option should default to /usr/bin/" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145218
[18:22] <asac> would be just a tiny improvement ... firefox 3 would deserve a gnome application selector.
[18:27] <Ubulette> there's already one
[18:27] <Ubulette> in prefs, "Applications"
[18:29] <asac> thats something different
[18:29] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ff3-pref-applications.png
[18:30] <asac> thats preferences ... not application selector ... when opening file in gnome users should get what you get in nautilus when right clicking and selecting "other application"
[18:32] <Ubulette> the bug was about opening /usr/bin
[18:41] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 408238
[18:42] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 408238 in Embedding: GTK Widget "back out unreviewed microb changes." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408238


[22:00] <dave__> hey, software updater isn't installing anything, i have to manually go to the terminal and type sudo apt-get update to update, and even then "Ubuntu base" security updates still won't install. Any suggestions?
[22:06] <wxl> dave__: what version?


[04:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I'm experimenting with moving away from Discover as the software updater, but that won't happen in time for Kinetic. I'm working on moving back to update-manager as the way to do it. It's just more robust.
[04:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> However, I did upload icons to reenable "Software Sources" and "Additional Drivers" directly from the menu. :)
[04:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> Should come in an update to ubuntustudio-menu. We can do that since it's part of the UI and we haven't yet hit UI freeze.
[04:31] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I have no comment on that either way. I have not really had trouble with discover
[04:32] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'll be able to backport those via PPA to Jammy.
[04:33] <OvenWerks> right
[04:38] <OvenWerks> If I had known what that settings item was, I would have used it. I was looking sources rather than drivers. (linux + drivers? Linux doesn't have drivers!?)
[14:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> Right. I'm just of the mindset of "why shouldn't there be icons?"
[19:59] <wonko[m]> I applaud your decision. I've never liked Discover.
[22:36] <OvenWerks> wonko[m]: I do like discover better than the usc or the gsw applications.
[22:37] <OvenWerks> That is it is fine for installing sw but I do like the old update tool
[22:38] <OvenWerks> though discover doesn't bother me for sw updates either. For new sw installs I prefer muon or synaptic over any of them. However, the current thought seems to be I am out dated :P
[22:40] <OvenWerks> The big thing I like about those two applications is that they tell me waht is going to be removed so I can "try out" some sw.
[22:41] <OvenWerks> It is good to know that half of my sw is going to vanish because some sw will only install if jackd1 is present and so will remove jackd2 and everything that depends on it... very messy


[00:58] <OvenWerks> zequence: ubuntustudio-controls has two bugs Bug #1329114 and Bug #1329117.
[01:01] <OvenWerks> The first is easy to fix, but the second would seem to need a rewrite of the gui portion of things due to using gtk2. I think fixing the first bug before the second is a bad idea as it will just make things so that any time someone tries to run -controls we get a new bug report.
[01:03] <OvenWerks> While I am willing to work on it, I would pretty much need to rewrite it from scratch. To do so I would want an application spec.
[01:04] <OvenWerks> I would probably not do it the way you would do it. I would try to self document as much as I could though.
[01:25] <OvenWerks> zequence: I have added my two cents to the ubuntustudio blueprint (in the white board area), but wonder if it would be helpful to start a wiki page for it. It would be easier for me to visualize what is going on and wanted if there were graphics attached.
[03:05] <OvenWerks> zequence: more thoughts on -controls. I think we need a collection of scripts to go with it. Starting Jack (and a2jmidid) at the begining of a session for example, needs to be done by a system script, but still needs user config. It needs to do it's job and get out of the way. There are some parts of the controls stuff that really are a part of settings and others that are needed during run time. To put all of this into one application in a dropd
[07:30] <zequence> OvenWerks: We'll fix it by rewriting it from scratch
[07:31] <zequence> OvenWerks: First version will be only a SRU for trusty, that can do one thing: give users realtime rights
[07:31] <zequence> OvenWerks: After we've done that version, we can start making it what has been planned for years
[07:32] <zequence> Let's do one thing at a time
[07:32] <zequence> First, a simple gui app that can give any user realtime rights.
[07:32] <zequence> i have some bash code that can decide if a user is a "real" user
[07:33] <zequence> let me do some things first, then I can at least show what I'm thinking there
[07:33] <zequence> Well, I'll get back to that anyhow
[07:34] <zequence> OvenWerks: But, sure, if you find solutions to problems separately, no matter in which type of code, just collect them for later, and we can look at how we implement them
[07:40] <zequence> OvenWerks: On starting jack - if we have our own control for that, we can do any number of things before jack is started
[07:40] <zequence> ..and make that configurable too
[07:42] <zequence> if you are interested in looking at how to do configuration files, in python, there's a nice simple library for that - https://bitbucket.org/ambv/configparser
[07:42] <zequence> package name: python-configparser
[07:48] <zequence> I'm not against using qt4, just that I've only been doing GT3 myself so far
[07:48] <zequence> GTK3*
[07:49] <zequence> Only one person needs to do the gui interface anyway
[09:31] <zequence> OvenWerks: I think we should focus on planning features first, then do implementations. falktx has done a lot of work that might be useful to us. No reason to reinvent the wheel :)
[23:12] <OvenWerks> zequence: The main thing I didn't like about Falk's tool is that the dropdown from the systray had too much stuff in it... it was too hard to use quickly.
[23:12] <OvenWerks> (maybe I am just getting old)


[01:03] <Enron> Can someone help I got an error when trying to build http://phpfi.com/249372
[03:25] <ssn> hi
[03:26] <ssn> is there a default firewall running in ubuntu-server?
[04:30] <PanzerMKZ> I have a compaq DL360. I have made a custom ISO with a few drivers missing so that installs go better. But I would like to install without APIC. Is there a way to tell it that I don't want to use APIC?
[10:32] <Dheeraj_k> please tell me what does this dns error means? http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=desi-tek.com
[05:39] <dendrobates> bug 125649
[05:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 125649 in oprofile "config file is stored in /root" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/125649
[06:48] <Enron> good morning
[06:48] <Enron> anyone awake?
[06:55] <Enron> how can I download linux-source-2.6.15-23-server? Can someone help I got an error when trying to build http://phpfi.com/249372/
[07:19] <mralphabet> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=2.6.15-23&searchon=names
[07:21] <mralphabet> Enron: i686?
[07:24] <mralphabet> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/linux-source-2.6.15
[07:26] <mralphabet> so it should be sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[08:09] <spensergilliland> hello
[08:10] <spensergilliland> I just looked at netstat -a and see a port 1027 open on all IPs. Can anyone tell me what this is and why it is open?
[08:10] <spensergilliland> udp        0      0 *:1027                  *:*
[08:11] <spensergilliland> this is the important line.
[08:13] <lionel> spensergilliland: do a netstat -ap you will have the process listening on the port
[08:22] <spensergilliland> ok thank you
[08:23] <spensergilliland> alright it says that dnsmasq is using the port i wonder why that is?
[08:32] <lionel> apt-cache show dnsmasq will make a  better description than me :)
[09:56] <ScottK> keescook: Thanks for approving me.
[10:03] <keescook> ScottK: you betcha.  :)
[10:05] <fernando> keescook, thanks
[10:05] <keescook> fernando: welcome.  :)
[10:35] <ScottK> What is the process for deciding if it's OK to add a new package for the server team?  I'd like to see a more complete set of mail server related packages.
[10:50] <Innatech> anyone know if there's a dapper-compatible deb of ipmenu somewhere I can use? I'd rather not install a whole toolchain on my router to compile it.
[10:51] <Innatech> (Or if it's safe to use the one in the Warty repos?)
[11:18] <ScottK> Innatech: You might ask yourself why it was removed...  But you can build the package using pbuilder on another machine (doens't have to be running Dapper) and move the binaries to the router.
[11:18] <Innatech> yeah, I was wondering about that a little. Thanks for the reminder re: pbuilder .
[11:19] <Innatech> Would there be some note on its removal somewhere I should look for?>
[11:21] <ScottK> There are sometimes bugs about removals, but not in this case.  I'd suggest Google.
[11:27] <lionel> You can find the reason on http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/removals.txt or http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt
[12:05] <kshahnjd> can someone help me set up a static ip?
[12:05] <kshahnjd> i read the man
[12:05] <kshahnjd> and changed /etc/network/interfaces but when I ifconfig, i'm still the old dhcp ip
[12:08] <tck> kshahnjd, sudo ifconfig eth0 IP_ADDRESS NET_MASK
[12:08] <tck> what is your gateway and your assigned static IP address
[12:08] <Nafallo> interface eth0
[12:08] <kshahnjd> <IP_ADDRESS>, my ip is <IP_ADDRESS> on my home network
[12:08] <Nafallo>   ip address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/xx
[12:09] <tck> whats your gateway
[12:09] <Nafallo>   end
[12:09] <Nafallo> wr
[12:09] <Nafallo> :-)
[12:09] <tck> so try this
[12:09] <kshahnjd> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:09] <tck> sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> up


[19:42] <TJ-> ed23454: now let's remove the stray files: "sudo rm /boot/grub/*.{mod,lst,sh}"
[19:42] <TJ-> ed23454: then check what files are left with "ls -altr /boot/grub/"
[19:43] <ed23454> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12640357/
[19:44] <TJ-> ed23454: Looks perfect :) Try a reboot.
[19:44] <ed23454> ok :)
[19:45] <TJ-> akik: did you look for an existing bug report for the incorrect font path you spotted?
[19:46] <akik> TJ-: no it just was weird to use /usr that got me thinkiing
[19:47] <graamont> who could help me access my router configuration page?
[19:47] <graamont> please
[19:47] <TJ-> akik: it is bug 721545
[19:48] <TJ-> akik: the scripts under /etc/grub.d/ are inserting the OS path, not the GRUB root path
[19:48] <akik> i don't think grub can access /usr at that point?
[19:48] <TJ-> akik: exactly :)
[19:49] <TJ-> akik: the file is copied into GRUB's root (/boot/grub/) but the script path isn't adjusted
[19:49] <TJ-> ed23454: How was that?
[19:49] <ed23454> TJ- yeah, booted without a single error message, TJ many thanks, really helped me out
[19:52] <akik> how many of you are employed by canonical? it's amazing to see this kind of quality support for ubuntu
[19:52] <TJ-> akik: none
[19:55] <ed23454> TJ- you are doing gods work, if you have btc/ltc address I dont mind sending you few $
[19:56] <TJ-> ed23454: thanks, but I'm fine. Contribute back to the community yourself in some way you enjoy
[19:56] <ed23454> TJ- well alright man, take care and thanks again
[19:58] <MiDOZ> Hello, I downloaded Ubuntu 15.04, updated it to the latest updates available, I will give u soon the uname -a output... But I have a problem that I've never faced before, which is that my Realtek wifi adapter suddenly disconnects me from my network and doesn't show any other wifi's (Nearby) it would be as if it's off
[19:58] <MiDOZ> Linux MiDOZ-Ubuntu 3.19.0-30-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 21 20:58:04 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:59] <TJ-> MiDOZ: you're the 2nd person this evening reporting the same issue. Can you tell is the exact device entry from "lspci -nn" and also tell us what "iwconfig" reports for the interface Power Management setting
[20:02] <TJ-> MiDOZ: can you also show us "pastebinit <( grep 'deauthenticated from' /var/log/syslog )"
[20:04] <hecatae> MiDOZ: anything from dmesg may help as well
[20:04] <orion> Hi. How do I disable compiz on 15.04?
[20:04]  * TJ- suspects MiDOZ lost the network :)
[20:04] <skrator> Hello EVERYONE!!!
[20:04] <daftykins> orion: mmm what's the goal here? better off with another DE to rid yourself of all the graphical requirements
[20:05] <orion> daftykins: Compiz is using 30% CPU when the VM is idling.
[20:05] <orion> And it's annoying.
[20:05] <MiDOZ> @TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12640505/
[20:05] <daftykins> orion: oh in a VM? do you specifically need to use the unity desktop in this VM?
[20:06] <TJ-> MiDOZ: what about the other info I asked for?
[20:06] <orion> daftykins: Yes. I need firefox and other things.
[20:07] <MiDOZ> @TJ-, one Second, but about the deauth, I don't think Im being deauthenticated by an intruder
[20:07] <daftykins> orion: having firefox bears no relevance to using unity, you could've gone with something lighter like xubuntu - anyway, you might be able to tweak compiz features a bit with their utility
[20:07] <TJ-> MiDOZ: I think though you need "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off" - the cause is the WiFi chipset going into power-saving mode
[20:07] <daftykins> orion: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:08] <hecatae> is there a way to make unity more touch friendly, my laptop has a 10 point touchscreen
[20:08] <andrewjs18> hi all, does ubuntu log reboots anywhere?
[20:08] <MiDOZ> TJ-: I'll see about that, it might be totally true
[20:08] <akik> orion: you might be able to find out some info what is going on with your vm from powertop and its tunables tab
[20:08] <TJ-> MiDOZ: try the system for a while with PM turned off, if that solves it here's an excellent guide on how to make the change permanent http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2287034&p=13360362#post13360362
[20:08] <MiDOZ> TJ-: what exactly do you need me to grep you frm dmesg
[20:08] <daftykins> akik: that doesn't even vaguely apply when compiz is the one hitting the CPU
[20:08] <TJ-> MiDOZ: I didn't want anything from dmesg ....
[20:09] <TJ-> MiDOZ: Can you tell is the exact device entry from "lspci -nn" and also tell us what "iwconfig" reports for the interface Power Management setting
[20:09] <akik> daftykins: it doesn't help at all finding out which part of the system is creating the extra load?
[20:09] <MiDOZ> TJ-: Sure
[20:09] <daftykins> akik: i just told you it was found to be compiz :)
[20:10] <akik> orion's problem is already resolved? what was the fix?
[20:11] <hecatae> MiDOZ:  thankyou for the pastebin
[20:11] <daftykins> akik: no you're not understanding...
[20:13] <Kartagis> how do I force re-install from ppa?
[20:15] <daftykins> Kartagis: can you give a bit more detail? what's your current situation? http://paste.ubuntu.com could be handy
[20:16] <Kartagis> daftykins: I installed my package from ppa. now I need to update it because its one bug was fixed but apt-get --reinstall install says I have the latest version
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Kartagis: Terminal command ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> ' generally should work IF there are no package management problems .
[20:17] <hecatae> TJ-:  looks like MiDOZ is using the wlan iinterface to login, shame
[20:17] <daftykins> Kartagis: you have to have run 'sudo apt-get update' to get the idea that there's a newer version, otherwise purge and reinstall if you didn't increase the version #
[20:41] <Guest64566> i download a few .deb files using sudo apt-get download packagename and i cann't dpkg -i package ... for example when i down load ruby-ldap_0.9.16-1_i386.deb i cann't install it get dependency issues .. what is the point of downloading if you cann't install itt
[20:41] <Guest64566> Or what is the point of the download option of apt-get
[20:42] <wileee> Guest64566, That is a very bad description.
[20:42] <julian-delphiki> Guest64566: if you also have the dependency debs downloaded it works pretty well.
[20:43] <hecatae> Guest64566:  a bad workman blames their tools, what are you downloading using apt-get?
[20:43] <TJ-> Guest64566: You are aware the proper use of apt for package installation is simply "apt install <packagename>" - there is no need to download first
[20:44] <elosz> I am confused between owner of the file and file permission
[20:44] <elosz> if a file is owned by root and has permission 644, does it mean I can read it/open it?
[20:45] <Guest64566> I realize this but i have download basically all the ldap and samba packages in the trusty repo and was wondering  why i cann't install using dpkg -i since the dependences are all in the same directory i would have assumed but maybe there is some outside that i missed
[20:45] <mustmodify_> I'm having a serious problem. I recently installed new RAM in my machine. After initial problems, I updated my BIOS. The machine seems to (a) randomly disconnect from the network and (b) randomly restart and (c) randomly lock up.  I've run memtester for like two days and everything seems fine. Actually, that was the longest the machine has gone without locking up... thought I can't imagine how those would be related. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot or
[20:47] <Guest64566> Either way if you download a deb file or bunch of them to a local folder to uses when reinstalling the os's why doesn't it work dpkg doesn't clear up package dependency issues or at least smart enough to go out and get the dependencies it is missing or dependencies in the same folder and install those first
[20:47] <TJ-> Guest64566: You can use "dpkg -iR <directory>" to install all packages in a directory
[20:47] <Guest64566> You have to uses the apt tool a layer up
[20:47] <TJ-> Guest64566: or you can use "dpkg -i <package1>.deb <package2>.deb" to ensure dependent packages are installed at the same time
[20:48] <akik> elosz: yes you can read the file as your normal account
[20:48] <TJ-> Guest64566: dpkg is not designed nor intended to deal with repositories, that is apt's job
[20:50] <akik> elosz: the ownership is like ownership of any other thing. with permissions you can give access to the files to other groups
[20:51] <Guest64566> So one cann't make a local repo using the download command
[20:55] <elosz> akik: but what if owner of file is root
[20:56] <elosz> the permissions rwx are applicable to all or owner(root in this case)
[20:56] <imatech> wow, hexchat doesn't have much scroll back space
[20:56] <imatech> what's the command to figure out what device?
[20:57] <imatech> how do I know what device to shred?
[20:57] <akik> elosz: if you have rwx it converts to 7 not 6
[20:58] <akik> elosz: it's the permissions for the owner uid
[20:58] <elosz> akik: i mean if file is owned by root, rwx in file permission means only root can read/write/execute?
[20:59] <akik> elosz: you need to look at all the permissions together
[21:00] <akik> elosz: so you can not say only root can read if the group also has read permission
[21:00] <elosz>  ls -al infile  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 Oct  2 16:03 infile
[21:02] <korsakof> ------rwx root root :)
[21:03] <akik> elosz: there are unix file system permission documents all over the net. go read one
[21:04] <freaware> i am about to install ubuntu 15,04 can somene guide me please especially in the partitionning  , first should i check install this third party software ??
[21:04] <daftykins> freaware: are you installing as the only OS, or alongside Windows?
[21:05] <freaware>  <daftykins> alongside windows
[21:05] <daftykins> freaware: in that case, you would have made life a little easier if you resized Windows from inside Windows already, to make space
[21:06] <freaware>  <daftykins> i heve already ubuntu 14.10 installed and i want to format it and install the new one instead
 can you please quide me through this ?
[21:08] <daftykins> freaware: sure, just run the installer and proceed to the partitioning stage - it'll offer to replace 14.10
[21:08] <freaware> should i check install this third party software ?
[21:09] <elosz> okay akik
[21:09] <elosz> 1 question..if I execute a program owned by root, and if that program creates a file, who'll be owner of the file?
[21:09] <elosz> akik: ^
[21:10] <daftykins> freaware: no need nope
[21:10] <akik> elosz: if you execute it as your own user id, normally the file will be owner by your user id but there's exception to it too
[21:10] <Guest64566> ok i am using apt-get again and now when i try to do something it doesn't allow me. I do apt-get check and it says i have umet package dependencies issues uses -f i know -f will work but it will install new packages ... i want to just clear these error not install new dependencies
[21:11] <daftykins> Guest64566: put the output of beginning "apt-get -f install" into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <Guest64566> i want to forget about the packages i was dpkg for a second clear apt-get of those issues
[21:11] <freaware> <daftykins : i got a message " unmount partitions that are in use " ?
[21:11] <akik> elosz: there a setuid binaries (+s) which behave differently and are run by the owner of the file
[21:11] <Guest64566> without installing the dependencies for it
[21:11] <akik> elosz: there are
[21:12] <daftykins> Guest64566: so show us.
[21:12] <akik> i'm sleepy :)
[21:12] <SCHAAP137> Guest64566: this is probably a consequence of installing that separate .deb file
[21:12] <freaware> daftykins : should i just chose yes and proceed
[21:12] <daftykins> freaware: if it's offering to unmount them, then sure
[21:13] <elosz> akik: my program doesn't have it set
[21:14] <freaware> daftykins ; am choosing something else in the installation type
[21:14] <hecatae> freaware: If I was you, I would install the LTS version and not need to update for 2 years
[21:14] <daftykins> *4 years
[21:14] <Guest64566> this is what apt-get check says http://pastebin.com/dy0vh3mH
[21:15] <Guest64566> but i changed my mind i don't want to install these with -f how can i clear apt-get of this stuff so i can download other packages
[21:16] <daftykins> that's not what i asked for Guest64566
[21:17] <daftykins> but sure, get rid of samba then? :)
[21:17] <daftykins> that's obviously what's trying to pull in the rest
[21:17] <daftykins> and ruby-ldap too
[21:17] <Guest64566> what do you want me to show you... when i dpkg the ruby package it didn't install or had those dependency issues
[21:18] <daftykins> "when i dpkg" - can you just state in full what you ran?
[21:18] <freaware> daftykins ; anyway  what should i do now ? i am in the partitioning step ?
[21:20] <freaware>  daftykins ; how to replace 14,10 with 15.04 ?
[21:20] <daftykins> freaware: did it offer to replace 14.10, or did you pick 'something else' ?
[21:20] <daftykins> you want the answers but you don't provide the information
[21:21] <freaware> <daftykins ; it didnt offer replacing i clicked somthing else
[21:21] <daftykins> well, that would have worked you know
[21:21] <daftykins> you can probably go back :)
[21:23] <freaware> daftykins : i got back , but it didnt provide the option to replace , i think i need to do it manually
[21:23] <daftykins> right... so go forward again, select the partition that was / and select to format it, making it be / again - now are you keeping any data from your old /home or have you backed up?
[21:24] <freaware> daftykins : i have my data transfered to windows
[21:25] <elhoir> hello guys
[21:25] <elhoir> do u know which is the official Mesa IRC channel?
[21:26] <daftykins> freaware: ok, it'd be handy to see a screenshot of the partitioner window
[21:26] <daftykins> !alis | elhoir
[21:26] <daftykins> elhoir: please don't use #ubuntu as your personal freenode directory :)
[21:27] <freaware> daftykins : how can i take screenshot  ?
[21:27] <daftykins> press the print screen key then upload it to somewhere like imgur.com
[21:28] <elhoir> daftykins, it was just a questio, i didnt know where to find it
[21:28] <daftykins> elhoir: so use alis as instructed above
[21:28] <daftykins> :)
[21:28] <elhoir> i will
[21:28] <elhoir> thanks
[21:30] <hans_henrik> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:31] <hans_henrik> repeatedly
[21:31] <elhoir> hans_henrik, i got a script to fix that
[21:31] <freaware> daftykins : http://imgur.com/eqw0HJF
[21:32] <wileee> hans_henrik, Show us the update upgrade in a pastebin
[21:32] <elhoir> i saw it in the virtualbox site
[21:32] <TJ-> hans_henrik: possibly the mirror is in the process of being updated
[21:32] <hans_henrik> its the main server though, not a mirror
[21:32] <elhoir> hans_henrik, ee https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[21:32] <daftykins> freaware: yep so click change, set it to be mount point /, ext4 and enable format.
[21:32] <TJ-> hans_henrik: sometimes the time between the package lists and the hash lists being updated can be several minutes
[21:33] <elhoir> see*
[21:33] <Guest64566> ok i had to remove the samba and ruby package then i did i check and was ok... what i want to know is when i apt-get ruby-interperter i get package is a virtual package provided by ruby2.0 <IP_ADDRESS>4-1ubuntu2.2
[21:33] <daftykins> freaware: next, make sure it's using /dev/sda6 as swap.
[21:33] <TJ-> hans_henrik: there is still an update from the build servers when packages are published
[21:33] <daftykins> Guest64566: that's not got a question in it?
[21:34] <Guest64566> confusing what the hell is a virtual package but what ever then i tried to apt-get install that package putting it in "" because of the spaces and it still failed
[21:34] <daftykins> Guest64566: virtual or meta packages are ones that refer to a bunch of other packages, making it easier to install things via one package name instead of a whole list.
[21:35] <daftykins> Guest64566: well no valid package has spaces, so that was your first mistake
[21:35] <daftykins> Guest64566: why don't you start from the start, what are you trying to do?
[21:35] <freaware> daftykins : what should i  choose in Use as ?? http://imgur.com/xez04Ej
[21:35] <TJ-> hans_henrik: actually, that's trying to fetch the source-code lists; those are compressed but your error message shows its trying to fetch the non-existent uncompressed version
[21:36] <Guest64566> so why is sudo apt-get install "ruby2.0 <IP_ADDRESS>4-1ubuntu2.2" basically say's unable to locate package
[21:36] <daftykins> freaware: i already said, ext4, "/" (to be the root filesystem)
[21:36] <daftykins> Guest64566: because that's not a real package name.
[21:36] <daftykins> Guest64566: so can you stop wasting both of our time and say what you are REALLY trying to do?
[21:37] <Guest64566> it gave me that option when i tried to install ruby-interperter
[21:37] <hans_henrik> TJ-: huh, weird
[21:37] <TJ-> hans_henrik: I assume you get that from "apt-get update" ??
[21:37] <daftykins> Guest64566: you're still not telling me what you're trying to achieve, i'm going to give up replying soon.
[21:37] <hans_henrik> TJ-: affirmative
[21:38] <TJ-> hans_henrik: which ubuntu release are you using?
[21:38] <Guest64566> as one of the virtual packages maybe it should just be ruby2 and the <IP_ADDRESS>4...etc thing is just indicating something else for the package
[21:38] <Guest64566> i will try that
[21:38] <TJ-> hans_henrik: !!!!! don't answer that I'm dumb :D
[21:38] <TJ-> hans_henrik: Dur 14.04 :)
[21:38]  * hans_henrik is slightly confused
[21:38] <daftykins> Guest64566: well don't guess, check PROPERLY with "apt-cache search ruby"
[21:38] <hans_henrik> ye
[21:38] <freaware> daftykins : like that ? http://imgur.com/C4OVE9o and how to check it's using /dev/sda6 as swap
[21:39] <daftykins> freaware: yes that's fine, check swap by highlighting it and checking its' "use as"
[21:39] <TJ-> hans_henrik: can you pastebin the complete output of an 'apt-get update' run please?
[21:40] <TJ-> Guest64566: if you spent some time reading the manual pages you'd know that to specify a specific version of a package the '=' symbol is used as a suffix to the package-name, followed by the version, with no spaces between them
[21:40] <Guest64566> ya with apt-cache you have only 5 ruby2.0 packages none of which have the <IP_ADDRESS>4-1ubuntu2.2 on the end curious what this info is supposed to indicate
[21:41] <hans_henrik> apt-get update 2>&1 | pastebinit
[21:41] <hans_henrik> looks right?
[21:41] <freaware> <daftykins : is it fine ?http://imgur.com/z2DQGEB
[21:41] <TJ-> hans_henrik: or more simply "apt-get update |& pastebinit"
[21:41] <daftykins> freaware: i give you enough information to know, why are you so worried?
[21:42] <hans_henrik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12641468/
[21:42] <daftykins> freaware: click ok and install now
[21:43] <Guest64566> yes so ever dependency was installed from this for http://pastebin.com/dy0vh3mH the dpkg -i ruby-ldap_0.9.16-1_i386.deb  and the package now installs with no complains
[21:44] <Guest64566> I didn't install the samba just testing for that deb file install with dpkg it works if you get the 4 dependencies for it installed first with apt-getting them
[21:44] <lostinput> Please help, lost keyboard/mouse usage in X, cannot see my devices in xinput list
[21:45] <TJ-> Guest64566: You've been doing this for several days, going against everything the package management is there to do - Why!?
[21:45] <Guest64566> My question is if one downloads all the packages from say the trusty repo into one local directory can he go there with dpkg -i and install any deb file or is dpkg not going to actually clear up dependencies even if they are in the same directory?
[21:45] <lostinput> reinstalled x-x-input-all, tried to force evdev in xorg.conf => no results :(
[21:46] <daftykins> Guest64566: you'd put them in the /var/cache/apt/archives/ folder then they'd work - but the real question is why you're doing this? it makes zero sense and you're just wasting our time until you just _SAY_
[21:46] <TJ-> Guest64566: dpkg does NOT resolve dependencies, that is apt's job
[21:46] <freaware> daftykins ; thanks a lot !! i have a question why ubuntu doesnt detect my ineternal wifi card ? i always need an external adapter
[21:47] <TJ-> freaware: possibly it requires closed-source driver code
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest64566  do you want to make an offline, local repo?
[21:48] <Guest64566> so dpkg is just to install to correct directories and tell apt-get what dependencies it needs to download/install first
[21:48] <Guest64566> not to resolve dependences that is the job of apt-get
[21:48] <Guest64566> ?
 when i tried to add aditional driver  in 14,10 version i messed up my networking i got the message , wifi disabled by hardware switch
[21:50] <TJ-> freaware: that's not an Ubuntu issue; the PC has a hardware control to disable the radio and you must have activated that without realising
[21:50] <Guest64566> dpkg is just a program that reads the structure of the deb file format and checks dependences if all is good it can install the deb to the proper place. But the apt-get is for resolving the dependencies and downloading them from the internet right?
 but  windows detects the internal wifi card ?
 and its dual boot with ubuntu
[21:52] <Guest64566> If so then if one apt-get download the whole trusty repo locally to a file. forgetting dpkg using apt-get could one point apt-get to the local folder and have it install the deb files correctly i.e resolve these issues?
[21:52] <daftykins> freaware: no point doing anything about that until you boot into the fresh install.
[21:52] <TJ-> Guest64566: see "man 5 deb" and "man 5 deb-control"
[21:52] <Guest64566> That i had with dpkg on a local folder that had all the dependencies
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> Guest64566  better create a thread on a forum
[21:53] <daftykins> Guest64566: essentially you just need to learn how to use package management properly and not come up with these convoluted schemes.
[21:53] <TJ-> freaware: Ahhh, OK, you have a buggy BIOS/firmware ACPI DSDT then, which detects Linux and doesn't enable all the functions it enables for Windows
[21:53] <TJ-> freaware: there are some workarounds that usually solve that
[21:54] <Guest64566> just hell to know which ones go first based on the seemingly never ending dependency change that by hand would take to long to clear up with dpkg could you uses apt-get on the local folder to resolve and install the local .deb files with out the dependency issues
[21:54] <daftykins> Guest64566: you're just trying to install the wrong things is all.
[21:54] <daftykins> works fine for everyone else :)
[21:55] <imatech> how do you increase the scrollback on hex chat?
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest64566  what was your initial question?
[21:55] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: we're not allowed to know the real task, which is half the problem :(
[21:56] <TJ-> freaware: If the issue I describe is your problem then installing a later Ubuntu most likely won't solve the issue
[21:56] <zesterer> Hi
[21:56] <zesterer> I've got a major problem, and I've no idea why
[21:57] <daftykins> details? :)
[21:57] <zesterer> I was just playing a game, when suddenly my mouse axis changed
[21:57] <zesterer> Suddenly I move my mouse up and the cursor moves left
[21:57] <zesterer> My touchpad works fine
[21:57] <daftykins> check the game options / restart it.
[21:57] <zesterer> It was a flash game, so I doubt it's that
[21:57] <zesterer> besides, I just rebooted and it didn't fix it
[21:58] <Guest64566> no i am trying to install the right thing rubyldap... .deb file though with dpkg i would have to install all the dependencies in a certain order before that package could be installed. So now i was wondering if i could uses apt-get on the local folder that has all the deb's and there dependencies all there so that it can resolve me dependencies and not have to go over the net everytime i need a dependency because i have them loc
[21:58] <Guest64566> ally... it also free's up bandwith of the repo servers to if people chose to do this because they where going to reinstall there os's a bunch of times
[21:58] <daftykins> Guest64566: using a .deb is not the best way to begin with.
[21:58] <daftykins> that's why you're going wrong.
[21:58] <daftykins> Guest64566: no, you're still going about it all wrong.
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest64566  if you have to ask it, don't try it... leave it to experienced users
[21:59] <zesterer> daftykins, I've tried flipping the screen orientation a few times and still nothing
[21:59] <Guest64566> if i apt-get download the whole trusty repo locally to a directory is there away to tell apt-get to install a package from the local directory using the local directory first to resolve dependencies other then going over the net to the trusty repo
[22:00] <TJ-> Guest64566: in those scenarios many sites use 'apt-cacher-ng'
[22:00] <TJ-> Guest64566: Other sites will use 'apt-mirror' and 'apt-clone'
[22:00] <daftykins> zesterer: sorry, i don't really help with games... much less flash ones.
[22:00] <ritztech> im trying to do a Socks SSH tunnel (i did it with Securecrt way)   but tyring to on linux now   so i dont have to use it   A-->B-->C      i need to get to C  but only way is to hop from A to B then C   i just wanna like 1081 to C from A right away After the tunnel is built
[22:00] <zesterer> daftykins, I'm 100% certain it has nothing to do with the game
[22:01] <avenger_q> ive never had cyber sex before
[22:01] <zesterer> daftykins, I just mentioned the game as a way of explaining that I wasn't doing anything that would normally cause this behaviour
[22:01] <elhoir> avenger_q, wtf?
[22:01] <daftykins> zesterer: ah ok so what you should've said is that it's happening on your DE?
[22:01] <avenger_q> sorry wrong channel
[22:01] <daftykins> elhoir: don't feed the trolls
[22:01] <zesterer> daftykins, Yeah
[22:01] <TJ-> zesterer: that is weird, is the mouse USB or Bluetooth or something else?
[22:01] <daftykins> and the DE of choice is?
[22:02] <zesterer> daftykins, Even after rebooting, plugging mouse in and out, reorienting screen, etc.
[22:02] <zesterer> TJ-, USB + Bluetooth
[22:02] <daftykins> how about testing the guest session? :)
[22:02] <zesterer> E.g: USB dongle thing
[22:02] <daftykins> that'll rule out your account
[22:02] <zesterer> I'll try that. I'll just make a guest session
[22:02] <TJ-> zesterer: So the touchpad moves in the correct axis but the mouse has swapped X<>Y ?
[22:02] <zesterer> TJ-, Yeah
[22:03] <daftykins> i wonder if it shows up in Xorg.0.log as to doing that :)
[22:03] <TJ-> zesterer: that sounds like a per-input-device config got changed somehow.
[22:03] <zesterer> Would that be something that could have been activated by some crazy keyboard shortcut?
[22:03] <TJ-> zesterer: Before thinking about config though, check the device with fresh batteries
[22:03] <scuba323> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 usin Wubi on a Windows 10 machine. I think I typed the password in wrong when i started the install because I can't log in :/ And i can't seem to boot into grub either. I get a windows 10 boot option screen
[22:04] <zesterer> TJ-, The batteries were fresh about 5 days ago
[22:04] <TJ-> zesterer: When my Bluetooth mouse batteries tire the mouse wanders around the screen randomly on its own
[22:04] <zesterer> It usually goes for about 6 months without needing new ones
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> scuba323  13.04 is dead and wubi is not a real installation
[22:04] <Guest64566> yes but once you have a local copy regardless of what apt-mirror ,...etc tools you uses instead of apt-get  command you need to tell apt-get i would imagine in its source.list to uses the local directory what would that be deb localhost/absolutepath/to/the/repo/folder ?
[22:04] <TJ-> zesterer: OK, but batteries can fail unexpectedly :)
[22:04] <daftykins> scuba323: we don't support 13.04 as it's EOL and WUBI is also not supported, sorry.
[22:04] <scuba323> nice
[22:04] <scuba323> ok
[22:04] <scuba323> thanks anyways :P
[22:04] <TJ-> zesterer: it's easier to do a simple battery swap test before trying to dig into the config
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> Guest64566  what are you still expecting from this channel?
[22:05] <daftykins> Guest64566: you need to accept what you are talking about is all wrong.
[22:06] <daftykins> Guest64566: i already answered this with the correct way but you have ignored it, so please stop talking about this completely ill-conceived plan and learn how to manage packages properly.
[22:06] <Guest64566> somebody to tell me what the line format would be for the sources.list file for a local folder say in /home/ubuntu/myrepdeb
[22:06] <daftykins> you don't do it that way.
[22:06] <daftykins> you are 100% wrong.
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest64566  what you want, cannot be done
[22:07] <avenger_q> i cant remember. she was only 14 at the time.
[22:07] <zesterer> Ok, now it's decided not to work at all
[22:07] <daftykins> !ops | avenger_q please remove due to inappropriate off topic comments.
[22:07] <zesterer> And yes, I put new batteries in it
[22:08] <Guest64566> you can do deb cdrom , deb http or deb ftp i believe so i have to set up a http local site or something else... curious how they know the path for deb cdrom lines
[22:08] <TJ-> Guest64566: Instead of asking us developer questions, please read the dpkg/apt documentation and source-code. We're here to support Ubuntu end-users with problems, not researchers
[22:09] <salerno91> hi
[22:09] <popey> Guest64566: deb file:/foo/bar
[22:09] <popey> Guest64566: for local file access, not http
[22:09] <avenger_q> she was old enough i thought. when can you?
[22:12] <Guest64566> thanks deb file:/  is what i need provided it works if i comment out the other source's in the source list and that type works. One other last question is the order in the sources.list determine what apt-get uses first to clear dependences so if i put deb file:/ first and left the others it would do the local first then check the internet ones
[22:15] <popey> Guest64566: no, it doesn't work like that. you need to set priority if you want one to be preferred over another
[22:16] <Guest64566> i.e does it go top down for checking dependencies in source.list or if not how does one tell apt-get to uses a specific one first or the order of which repo locations to look for first
[22:16] <popey> Guest64566: yes, I understood your question, and said no, it doesn't work like that. you have to set priority
[22:16] <Guest64566> how does one set priorities for apt-get repo's in the source list
[22:16] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135339/assign-highest-priority-to-my-local-repository
[22:18] <RepThis1> Hey guys im trying to wake-on-lan over internet and i seem to have it working as running an application from the web will wake it but i am interested in which native tool on ubuntu can i use to wake it
[22:18] <popey> RepThis1: etherwake?
[22:19] <RepThis1> popey: i tried wakeonlan -i 12.345.67.890 01:23:45:67:89:ab but all i get is a Sending magic packet to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[22:19] <SCHAAP137> RepThis1: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/man8/etherwake.8.html
[22:20] <RepThis1> popey: however this "01:23:45:67:89:ab" i am unsure on as what is ab indicating?
[22:20] <popey> thats the mac address of the ethernet card
[22:21] <Guest64566> O i see the man page for sources.list shows your deb option format you gave me they have one for ssh rsh as well cool but haven't found the priorty thing yet though i still have to look under apt.conf , or apt-preferences ,... man page . so my last thing is finding the order of apt-get using or always commenting out source lines before time. thanks great now i am almost set with most parts of the package manager for debian based
[22:21] <Guest64566>  systems
[22:21] <RepThis1> popey: right but the example has the last 2 as letters so i thought there might be something im missing
[22:21] <popey> RepThis1: it's hexadecimal
[22:22] <RepThis1> hexadecimal base 2 w/e
[22:23] <RepThis1> SCHAAP137: i tried using that but i became confused with the -i switch because it seemed bizare to me that u would have to know the remote systems interface
[22:24] <RepThis1> SCHAAP137: plus i was not sure in which order and which switches to use?
[22:24] <SCHAAP137> RepThis1: the -i option is for defining the local interface, on which to send the magic packet from
[22:25] <utu8o> is ubuntu shuipping on any retail tablets?
[22:25] <daftykins> RepThis1: experiment :)
[22:26] <popey> utu8o: no
[22:26] <SCHAAP137> RepThis1: it will be difficult to break something by mistyping an etherwake command, don't worry about it
[22:26] <salerno91> i want integrate octave language in as it if were native, it's possible ?
[22:26] <RepThis1> im also in the local segment so i was not even sure i could adequately test it.
[22:27] <SCHAAP137> it will only travel in the same broadcast domain
[22:27] <SCHAAP137> it doesn't traverse routers, the magic packet
[22:27] <daftykins> i figured you had to be triggering something on a gateway host to wake up a system on its' internal LAN, since yeah - internet side is not going to happen.
[22:27] <RepThis1> SCHAAP137: not woried about breaking anything, just insight into the proper syntax, the thing i dislike about this application is its man page which does not show usage cases
[22:28] <daftykins> perhaps if you told us what you're trying to achieve?
[22:28] <SCHAAP137> RepThis1: i would say something like: etherwake -i eth0 00:11:22:33:44:55
[22:29] <SCHAAP137> replace that MAC with the actual MAC from the network interface of the machine u want to wake up
[22:29] <RepThis1> is there an application then that can traverse routers like this program http://www.wakeonlan.me/
[22:30] <SCHAAP137> nah, the "over internet" part is nonsense
[22:30] <RepThis1> i can wake from the same network segment, the question was waking a machine not in the local area network
[22:30] <SCHAAP137> that's technically impossible i believe, RepThis1
[22:30] <RepThis1> SCHAAP137: but that application will wake my computer
[22:31] <RepThis1> lol....
[22:31] <hellodontknownam> hi
[22:31] <SCHAAP137> could be, how did you test it?
[22:31] <freaware> why am i stuck here ?? http://imgur.com/brX6Ek9 , it's not progressing ??
[22:31] <RepThis1> SCHAAP137: now if ubuntu has something natively that would be awsome, otherwise i found a piece of software mentioned as wol that i may have to install
[22:32] <RepThis1> u enter the public ip address, remote machines mac address(not the router) and port
[22:32] <SCHAAP137> RepThis1: Ubuntu has the etherwake command, i cannot imagine that this WOL application from that shady website functions any differently
[22:33] <freaware> ???
[22:34] <freaware> how much time   does it need ??
[22:34] <SCHAAP137> freaware: for how long has it been stuck at that point?
[22:35] <RepThis1> SCHAAP137: I configured my router to port forward and added a config line to arp
[22:35] <freaware> <SCHAAP137 : about 30 min
[22:35] <SCHAAP137> freaware: that is indeed very long freaware, are you sure the disk you try to install on is healthy?
[22:35] <freaware> since i started the installation it s been 30 min
[22:36] <freaware> SCHAAP137 : yes it is
[22:36] <SCHAAP137> half an hour for an EXT4 format seems awefully long
[22:37] <freaware> SCHAAP137 : i have ubuntu 14.10  installed in it i set it to format the old version and instal 15 .04
[22:38] <freaware> SCHAAP137 : can i reboot and try again ?
[22:38] <daftykins> freaware: perhaps reboot, delete them and try fresh install
[22:38] <daftykins> probably won't change much
[22:38] <SCHAAP137> hmm, if it's stuck on this point for that long, i would retry it yes
[22:39] <SCHAAP137> also freaware, you could have performed the upgrade from within the system
[22:39] <SCHAAP137> without having to use the installer disk
[22:39] <SCHAAP137> just sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:40] <freaware>  <SCHAAP137 : i have to install it from scrath because i have a networking problem in 14.10
[22:40] <SCHAAP137> ahh, okay
[22:40] <freaware> so am going to try it again and see
[22:42] <SCHAAP137> yeah that seems like the best option now, i agree
[22:48] <avenger_q> i didnt know she was 15 when i touched her.
[22:48] <wileee> !ops
[22:50] <Torontonian> what is your theory on psychopaths?
[22:50] <wileee> genetic
[22:51] <Torontonian> nature vs nurture
[22:51] <wileee> #ubuntu-offtopic  is the chat channel is all, support here.
[22:53] <evobrain> ciao a tutti
[22:53] <evobrain> !list
[23:05] <freaware> my ubuntu installation get stuck in step 5 and now am trying to install  again , and i got this message that the resize operation will take a long time , can you tell me how long ??
[23:06] <freaware> here http://imgur.com/IQQt7a7
[23:06] <daftykins> why do you need to resize? just delete those two partitions and start again
[23:07] <freaware> <daftykins : but you didn't tell me to do that back then ?
[23:08] <daftykins> freaware: what? you didn't need to resize anything before.
[23:09] <daftykins> and you still don't
[23:09] <freaware> daftykins ; wait are you the guy who guided me in the installation precess ?
[23:10] <daftykins> yes.
[23:10] <freaware> daftykins : i don't know what resizing means actually after i hit install now , the installation started and the got stuck for so long
[23:11] <daftykins> yes i know, i suggested you delete the two Linux partitions and start again
[23:12] <freaware> daftykins : what do you mean by two linux partition i have only one of 14.10   and swap
[23:13] <daftykins> yeah 1 + 1 = 2
[23:13] <freaware> daftykins ; ok sorry how to delet them then ?
[23:13] <daftykins> highlight each in the partitioner there and select - to delete them
[23:13] <daftykins> or quit the installer and run gparted instead
[23:13] <Anthaas> Is there an easy way to rename all a file that exists in numerous subdirectories, but rename it in all subdirectories?
[23:14] <Anthaas> i.e. I am in FolderOne, there is SubFolder1, SubFolder2, and SubFolder3, all 3 SubFolders contain "file.txt", but I want to rename to "words.txt" in all SubFolders
[23:15] <Anthaas> Oh actually, thats not an accurate representation.
[23:15] <Anthaas> You know what, doing it manually will be easier
[23:15] <Anthaas> Thanks!
[23:15] <daftykins> ;)
[23:15] <daftykins> Anthaas: #bash anyway otherwise
[23:17] <freaware> daftykins : http://imgur.com/QHeMbc9
[23:18] <asdg9123> I tried to move a Dell Inpiron 545 over to Ubuntu but the soundcard wouldn't work. So I bought another one (Audigy 2 Sound blaster) but I can't seem to get this one to work either. I did "lspci -v" and found that ubuntu could see the soundcard, but I still can't get any sound. Any tips?
[23:18] <daftykins> audigy 2 is quite the museum piece :(
[23:18] <daftykins> freaware: right click swap -> swapoff -> delete sda6 -> then delete sda5.
[23:19] <freaware> daftykins : i don't know how to delete it from the installer and the gparted didn't work ?
[23:19] <asdg9123> daftykins: I honestly don't care about the sound quality. I just want it to work
[23:20] <daftykins> asdg9123: i'm not talking about quality, nm
[23:20] <daftykins> freaware: did you check gparted was installed? did you try to run it? just click the swap and try the - there
[23:21] <fiab_> Happy, Ubuntu Studio 15.04 user here, sorta-newbie... will adding KDE Plasma 5.x cause latency issues or any negative issues, or should I just install it?
[23:21] <asdg9123> Am I better off getting an external usb soundcard? I feel like I've gone back to the 90s.
[23:22] <daftykins> no, i would never get anything audio that's USB
[23:22] <freaware> daftykins ; ok i deleted them but they still apear in the botom should i choose to clear all opreation or apply all ops ?
[23:22] <daftykins> oh so you _are_ in gparted
[23:22] <daftykins> jesus
[23:22] <daftykins> you need to hit the green apply tick yes
[23:23] <fiab_> Are there, ubuntu studio, specific channels on, freenode?
[23:23] <asdg9123> What should I do then? I'm stuck.
[23:23] <daftykins> !channels | fiab_
[23:25] <buzain> !alis
[23:26] <fiab_> thanks folks, will do, reading guidelines, am very familiar with freenode, I will read all -- just looking for anyone to say, No, don't install KDE plasma 5.x on ubuntu studio 15.04 or not
[23:27] <fiab_> good list, reading
[23:28] <fiab_> what's different in official ubuntu channels from most other freenode channels?
[23:28] <freaware> daftykin ; sorry , i dont understand   , here is a screenshot http://imgur.com/edit?album_id=QrCtd
[23:29] <fiab_> that's my last q, found #ubuntustudio, peace ;)
[23:30] <freaware> daftykin : so i need to hit apply all operations ?
[23:35] <daftykins> freaware: how else do you think the task will complete?
[23:38] <freaware> <daftykins ; sorry am kina stupid , okey it's done now i have new option in the installation type should i choose it  it says " install ubuntu alongside them"  or go with something else and create a new partition ?
[23:40] <freaware> daftykins : I think i should choose the first option , right ?
[23:42] <freaware> daftykins ; I consider it a yes !
[23:45] <jcstarken> Looking for help installing ubuntu on my 2014 samsung galaxy note 10.1
[23:46] <daftykins> jcstarken: tablet? wrong channel
[23:47] <jcstarken> daftykins: sorry what one do I need thank you
[23:47] <daftykins> #ubuntu-touch but even then who knows if it'll work
[23:48] <jcstarken> daftykins: thank you
[23:52] <freaware> daftykins : is my installation qoing well http://imgur.com/HFtUOh2
[23:53] <daftykins> nope, looks like your download or media is bad
[23:55] <Hulio> sup guys
[23:56] <uriel11> \help newuser
[23:57] <netcrash> wrongly I deleted the kernels from /boot without doing aptitude remove of the package, how can I fix this?
[23:57] <uriel11> \list
[23:57] <daftykins> netcrash: wow that was unwise. do you have any left?
[23:57] <daftykins> uriel11: ask a question if you require ubuntu support.
[23:57] <netcrash> daftykins: yes
[23:58] <netcrash> space is still 100%
[23:58] <uriel11> my first time in ubuntu and irc
[23:58] <daftykins> what do you mean 100%, used?
[23:58] <daftykins> netcrash: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" then reinstall those
[23:58] <uriel11> i just burnedout my windows
[23:59] <daftykins> uriel11: you did what? so, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[23:59] <daftykins> we don't do help with Windows :)


[01:33] <Darkman802> I killed all of a user's processes and now it will not let that user log in through ssh with their pub/pri key pair. It says "No authentication method available"
[01:34] <Darkman802> any ideas to what the problem could be?
[01:46] <halvors> Hi! I' trying to setup ISC dhcp client to request a IPv6 prefix from my ISP using DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation, how do i do that? :)
[02:20] <GH0> Hello, I was looking into apache2 so that I can proxy pass something, and found (unfortunately) that the latest version of apache2 that is hosted on the official repositories does not include Apache 2.4. Apache2.4.4 has been out for sometime, nearly 4 months). I was wondering when, if, or how is the best way to upgrade apache2 to apache2 2.4 with Ubuntu's official PPA.
[02:21] <GH0> I am not sure if this exists in a backport or some testing build, but I would love to have it, as there are several modules that I need and would like updated.
[02:21] <GH0> Apache2 2.4.1 itself has been out for nearly a year now.
[02:33] <patdk-lap> gh0, heh? there is no apache 2.4 in debian, therefor not in ubuntu
[02:33] <patdk-lap> why though, you would want to use 2.4, I have no idea though
[02:40] <GH0> well if there are any guides on how to get specific modulesfrom 3.4.x to work with 2.2.x that would probably suffice. The modules are updated thatare updated for some things i use, that dont function with 2.2
[02:41] <patdk-lap> heh?
[02:42] <patdk-lap> wouldn't the issue be recompiling everything to work with 2.4?
[02:43] <GH0> yeah, i typoed that. 2.4, i dont even try to spell check when i am on a tablet
[02:56] <halvors> Hi! I' trying to setup ISC dhcp client to request a IPv6 prefix from my ISP using DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation, how do i do that? :)
[03:19] <HelloWorld321> I loaded an anacron job; I ran anacron -T to test it, and got no response (which I think is 0, which means all okay); and then I ran anacron -n -f to get it to run now; but the /var/spool/anacron directory doesn't have an entry for my new anacron job.  How can I make sure it runs?
[05:32] <GeorgeTorwell> can someone tell me if its possible to set up full disk encryption with Ubuntu server 13? I tried guided partitioning but it set up LVM encryption instead and I don't think that's what I want
[10:40] <slyboots> Hrm...
[10:40] <slyboots> Is there a way to see what sort of RAM you have installed in a Ubuntu server?
[10:40] <slyboots> as in.. clockspeed
[10:41] <lifeless> lshw
[10:48] <slyboots> Ah DDR3 1333..
[10:51] <samba35> i have install windows 8 as a guest on 12.04 now i do i access usb drive in windows
[11:00] <RoyK> samba35: what hypervisor?
[11:00] <samba35> kvn
[11:00] <samba35> RoyK, how are you
[11:00] <samba35> sorry kvm ,i mean
[11:01] <RoyK> not sure how that can be done in kvm...
[11:01] <samba35> no problem got it
[11:01] <samba35> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/USB_Host_Device_Assigned_to_Guest
[11:03] <RoyK> ahki
[11:05] <samba35> remember  me ?
[11:07] <mattcen> lifeless, slyboots: Why would you use lshw when dmidecode is much more likely to be installed, and runs significantly quicker?
[11:07] <slyboots> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/components-upgrades/memory/desktop-memory-dimm/integral-pc3-10600-ddr3-pc-memory-8gb-dimm-ram-19713392-pdt.html - Man thats.. cheap..
[11:07] <slyboots> Worryingly cheap
[11:08] <mattcen> (Note that dmidecode's install priority is "important" while lshw's priority is "optional")
[11:08] <bekks> slyboots: That noname RAM. I wont buy it.
[11:10] <ogra_> mattcen, lshw is a dependency of ubuntu-standard and dmidecode needs a BIOS, not all HW has one :)
[11:12] <slyboots> bekks: well its Intergral :P
[11:12] <slyboots> But yea, its like £20 cheaper than any other brand heh :P
[11:12]  * mattcen didn't pay enough attention to which channel he was in. Assumed this was #debian-something.
[11:13] <mattcen> (lshw isn't default in debian)
[11:13] <ogra_> :)
[11:16]  * slyboots tries to remmeber "what happens if you mix RAM with different timings"
[11:16] <slyboots> It drops down to the lowest speed right?
[11:16] <slyboots> Uh.. speed not timing :P
[11:17] <bekks> slyboots: Yeah, its Integral. As I said, noname :)
[11:18] <slyboots> Well, some Kingston ValueRam stuff
[11:18] <slyboots> :P
[11:18] <bekks> Kingston ValueRAM is something else ;)
[11:35] <slyboots> So Kingstone ValueRAM is an "OK" brand?
[11:35] <slyboots> Can kit out the Microserver with a full 16Gb and.. hrm, another 16/32 in the SAN :P
[13:51] <RoyK> slyboots: 32GB in the SAN? high traffic?
[13:51] <slyboots> Zfs
[13:52] <slyboots> Nono, Im not putting in 32gb
[13:52] <slyboots> maybe 16
[13:54] <RoyK> using dedup?
[13:55] <slyboots> Nah.. well maybe on one of the smaller volumes
[13:55] <slyboots> But its supposed to be like.. 1Gb her TB of data
[13:55] <slyboots> So Im going to stick in .. 8gb as stock
[13:56] <slyboots> then maybe another 8
[13:56] <slyboots> DDR3 ram is.. pretty chepa though
[13:56] <slyboots> its only about £100 for the 32gb total
[13:57] <slyboots> (thats 16GB (2x8) for the microserver (esxi) and the rest for the SAN
[13:59] <slyboots> Given what I've spend on a cockatiel this month.. its not a big deal :P
[13:59] <slyboots> (pets are *fucking* expencive when they get sick x.x)
[13:59] <RoyK> dedup is *very* hungry for memory (and L2ARC), so better test it outside production before implementing it
[14:00] <slyboots> Aye, I've seen the dire warnings about not switching it on
[14:00] <slyboots> tbh I might just not bother at all with it
[14:00] <slyboots> For my use, the return would be pretty minimal
[14:09] <RoyK> then don't use it :P
[14:34] <GH0> What would be the best way to add the sid deb repository to ubuntu, so that I could use the apache2 2.4.x package on ubuntu? Or is this a terrible idea?
[14:53] <Tm_T> GH0: shortly put: don't mess Ubuntu and Debian repositories
[14:54] <patdk-lap> one thing about debian, you never touch sid
[14:55] <GH0> Well, is apache2 2.4 in any of the testing or "unofficial" repositories? I found some third party PPA's, but saw that users were having some problems with them.
[14:55] <patdk-lap> I have 2.4 in my ppa, I have no problems with it
[14:56] <patdk-lap> but given the fact, your still asking these questions, or really, asking them at all
[14:56] <patdk-lap> you are not skilled enough to solve the problems you will have attempting to use apache 2.4
[14:56] <patdk-lap> you will end up causing a mess, that won't be simple to fix
[14:57] <GH0> I really just need a couple of the updated modules from 2.4 installation. Since the current mod_proxy doesn't support websockets, and the 2.4 version of mod_proxy does.
[16:11] <crimsonmane_> hello. first time ubuntu-server here. installed in a vm
[16:14] <crimsonmane_> I don't know what I'm doing :) I've told it to install a mail server, dns, something else which i cannot remember, finished the install and rebooted. I'm at the command prompt and don't know what to do next. Is there documentation that gives some guidance?
[16:42] <halvors1> Hi! I'm unable to get a default route for IPv6 with stateful DHCPv6 :( Anyone knows how? Is it a bug? Why hasn't this ben fixed?
[16:58] <StevenR> halvors1: does the packet trace show a default route being provided by the DHCP server?
[17:10] <bradley_> can anyone here help me with mysql?
[17:11] <bradley_> i got a syntax error but i cant figure out whats wrong with  it
[17:17] <bekks> So whats your sql statement then?
[17:20] <bradley_> CREATE TABLE `virtual_domains` (
[17:20] <bradley_>   `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
[17:20] <bradley_>   `name` varchar(50) NOT NULL,
[17:20] <bradley_>   PRIMARY KEY (`id`)
[17:20] <bradley_> ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8;
[17:20] <bradley_> CREATE TABLE `virtual_users` (
[17:20] <bradley_>   `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
[17:20] <bradley_>   `domain_id` int(11) NOT NULL,
[17:20] <bradley_>   `7dda115831e0dec290a07b9cb9d6d762` varchar(32) NOT NULL,
[17:20] <bradley_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>varchar(100) NOT NULL,
[17:20] <bradley_>   PRIMARY KEY (`id`),
[17:20] <bradley_>   UNIQUE KEY `email` (`email`),
[17:20] <bradley_>   FOREIGN KEY (domain_id) REFERENCES virtual_domains(id) ON DELETE CASCADE
[17:20] <bradley_> ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8;
[17:20] <bekks> Use a pastebin+
[17:20] <bradley_> this is it
[17:21] <bekks> Pastebin it. And never ever spam like this again please.
[17:21] <brad100> sorry
[17:23] <brad100> http://pastebin.com/MRwjmDGn
[17:24] <brad100> mysql keeps telling me it has something to do with 'domain_id' and its a syntax error so am i supposed to replace it with some thing?
[17:25] <brad100> on line 8
[17:37] <halvors1> Will the accept_ra is set to 0 by default instead of 1 bug be fixed in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:37] <halvors1> It does that i'm unable to use IPv6 with my server...
[17:45] <andol> halvors1: How does a default setting prevent you from setting your own setting?
[17:50] <bekks> halvors1: Which bug where? Whats that "accept_ra"?
[17:51] <halvors1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1013597
[17:53] <andol> halvors1: Ah, that bug refered to a bit of a more specific case than one could gather from your originat question.
[18:32] <halvors1> Is it possible to set a interface to recive an address using dhcp, but assign a secondary ip address staticlly? :)
[18:33] <bekks> halvors1: Thats called an "ip alias", and its possible, of course.
[20:17] <petey> does anyone have a good CHROOT tutorial out there? something i can set up so my friend can tinker with SSH but only in his folder
[20:18] <lenios> petey, i don't, but you're looking for a libpam-chroot tutorial
[20:18] <lenios> and that should be easily findable with google
[20:18] <petey> cool
[20:18] <petey> thanks
[21:38] <halvors> Is it possible to request a specific address from my isps dhcp server using Ubuntu server? Also request a preffered address? :)