[02:17] <fargiolas> does ubuntu default installation includes udev extra stuff? I received a bug report in cheese about missing v4l_id in an almost fresh install of ubuntu 10.04
[02:24] <ion> The udev package comes with v4l_id.
[02:27] <fargiolas> ion: thanks, I wonder how the reporter managed to remove it
[02:28] <ajmitch> fargiolas: the reporter says that they do have it, if you're referring to bgo #625999
[02:29] <fargiolas> ajmitch: uh definitely shouldn't read bugmail at 3 am
[02:29] <fargiolas> ajmitch: you're right
[02:29] <ajmitch> hehe :)
[02:29] <fargiolas> thanks :P
[02:30]  * ajmitch has no idea about what the udevadm output is meant to be showing though
[02:30] <ajmitch> I just know that cheese does work with lucid & my HP laptop :)
[02:31] <fargiolas> ajmitch: it should show three properties ID_V4L_VERSION, ID_V4L_PRODUCT and ID_V4L_CAPABILITIES
[04:28] <lool> slangasek, cjwatson: I think tracking xdeb bugs just in Ubuntu is enough as long as it isn't used outside of Ubuntu; releases are effectively happening in Ubuntu
[05:24] <porthose> If there is an archive admin around I would like to request a rebuild or darcs-2.4.4-2 please.
[05:25] <ajmitch> porthose: you should be able to hit 'retry' yourself on LP
[05:25] <porthose> ooh ok was not aware of that thx :)
[05:25] <ajmitch> see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/darcs/2.4.4-2/+build/1904438
[05:26] <ajmitch> it should have Retry this build
[05:26] <porthose> ajmitch, thx :)
[05:55] <slangasek> lool: ack
[06:12] <pitti> Good morning
[06:41] <dholbach> good morning!
[06:42] <dholbach> Packaging Training Session: Fixing Small Ubuntu Bugs in 18 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[07:09] <pitti> ScottK:
[07:09] <pitti> - * (openoffice.org-kde) [i386 amd64 powerpc armel]
[07:09] <pitti> + * (openoffice.org-kde) [i386 amd64 powerpc] #powerpc oversized
[07:09] <pitti> ScottK: I guess that was a typo?
[07:09] <pitti> ScottK: ah, nevermind; next commit :)
[07:27] <DktrKranz> ScottK: indeed. It's quite trivial to fix in case new parted isn't plan to land in maverick
[07:27] <pitti> superm1: hm, I can't make sense of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/maverick/mythbuntu/20100805/, the logs seem cut off; but they failed again :/
[08:12] <ara> pitti, when you said yesterday, about the mtdev package, that "you already did" you were meaning that you already accepted it in the archive, or that you already were archive admin the previous day?
[08:12] <pitti> ara: I accepted it on Tuesday already
[08:13] <ara> pitti, mmm, and how long does it take before it is actually available?
[08:13] <pitti> it should have been available from Tuesday evening
[08:13] <ara> pitti, ah, OK, it must be something with the mirror
[08:13] <ara> pitti, thanks again!
[08:13] <pitti> ibmtdev-dev | 1.0.6-0ubuntu2 | maverick/universe | amd64, armel, i386, sparc
[08:13] <pitti>  libmtdev1 | 1.0.6-0ubuntu2 | maverick/universe | amd64, armel, i386, sparc
[08:13] <pitti>      mtdev | 1.0.8-0ubuntu1 | maverick/universe | source
[08:13] <pitti> mtdev-tools | 1.0.6-0ubuntu2 | maverick/universe | amd64, armel, i386, sparc
[08:14] <pitti> looks good here
[08:14] <pitti> apparently ia64 didn't build
[08:14] <pitti> but I guess that's the least of your worries/
[08:14] <pitti> ?
[08:14] <ara> yes, that does not keep me from sleeping :)
[08:24] <Adri2000> ccheney: any ETA on fixing bug #570147 ? could you please at least make a comment pointing to a fix or describing what the fix could be?
[09:31] <LucidFox> dholbach, nigelb, what would you say about changing the Behind MOTU theme? Someone I know has suggested moving away from the default WordPress one.
[09:33] <dholbach> LucidFox: no opinion :)
[09:46] <geser> mvo: bug #613756 should probably be moved to python-apt, right?
[09:46] <mvo> geser: yes please
[10:04] <pitti> superm1: ah, log synced now, but still the same problem as it seems
[10:06] <pitti> superm1: it needs to build against libmpcdec6?
[10:28] <LucidFox> dholbach, the WordPress admin interface also lists you as the administrative contact
[10:28] <LucidFox> I wonder
[10:28] <LucidFox> maybe we could create a Launchpad team and a mailing list, and send the contact there?
[11:00] <JamesWStubbs> Hello, is porting Ubuntu a mobile device ( The Apple iPhone ) Considered appropriate in this room?
[11:02]  * LucidFox blink-blink
[11:02] <JamesWStubbs> ?
[11:03] <JamesWStubbs> If it isn't please tell me and I'll go elsewhere,
[11:09] <nigelb> LucidFox: +1
[11:09] <nigelb> LucidFox: go for it.
[11:09] <LucidFox> nigelb> Oh, you're here!
[11:10] <nigelb> LucidFox: also if you're free later today, we could talk about how to go about taking interviews from now.  Probably in another 3.5 hours
[11:10] <LucidFox> Sure!
[11:10] <nigelb> LucidFox: yeah, at work.  busy day.
[11:10] <LucidFox> Okay. I've created a Launchpad team with a mailing list, added you and bobbo
[11:11] <LucidFox> the mailing list will apparently take some time to activate, though
[11:16]  * nigelb hugs LucidFox
[11:16] <nigelb> you're awesome :)
[11:27] <bdrung> tumbleweed: please don't forget to unsubscribe ubuntu-sponsors
[11:47] <bdrung> pitti: ping
[11:48] <pitti> hello bdrung
[11:50] <bdrung> pitti: hi. why is the udev version '151-12'?
[11:50] <bdrung> BlackZ: ^
[11:50] <pitti> bdrung: there's a newer one in bzr, but Keybuk said it wouldn't boot
[11:51] <bdrung> pitti: to be more specific: why is it 151-12 and not 151-0ubuntu12?
[11:51] <pitti> bdrung: ah; Scott's decision
[11:52] <bdrung> pitti: is it allowed to decide that the version clashes with debian?
[11:52] <pitti> I'm not happy about it myself
[11:52] <BlackZ> pitti: why the maintainer isn't Ubuntu Developers ?
[11:56] <dholbach> LucidFox: for now I think we could just replace my name with somebody else
[11:56] <LucidFox> In WordPress?
[11:56] <dholbach> yep
[11:56] <dholbach> LucidFox: shall I put you in ther for now?
[11:57] <LucidFox> I've tried changing the contact email to the mailing list, but no email arrives and nothing is in moderation either
[11:57] <LucidFox> I'll try changing it to mine
[11:58] <LucidFox> huh, it did arrive
[11:58] <LucidFox> changed the email
[11:58] <vish> pitti: hi , when you get time could you merge this : https://code.launchpad.net/~evfool/jockey/proprietary/+merge/29254
[12:00] <pitti> vish: it's still on my list
[12:01] <vish> pitti: awesome thanks. [/me just trying to get it in before UIF :)]
[12:01] <BlackZ> pitti: for udev: can't we just merge the package from debian?
[12:01] <LucidFox> ...Great
[12:02] <pitti> BlackZ: I'm afraid not; we use a pretty clean upstream packaging, and Debian uses its own set of rules still
[12:02] <LucidFox> Yahoo is being "clever" and doesn't recognize Epiphany as a supported browser
[12:02] <LucidFox> for its New and Improved mail
[12:04] <BlackZ> pitti: ah, ok. Now it makes sense: so that's the reason why we have our own package in ubuntu and an ubuntu developer set as maintainer of the package?
[12:08] <pitti> BlackZ: right; it's totally independent from the Debian version and is on the sync blacklist
[12:08] <pitti> I'm still not quite happy about using Debianish version numbers, but oh well
[12:12] <tumbleweed> bdrung: whoops, thanks
[12:12] <bdrung> tumbleweed: for example bug #550261
[12:13] <vish> tumbleweed: how do we check the package has been uploaded to -proposed?
[12:13] <vish> is it still building?
[12:13] <tumbleweed> vish: it's waiting on archive admin approval
[12:14] <vish> tumbleweed: ah , cool ..thanks
[12:14] <tumbleweed> bdrung: err, yes. I used to always unsubscribe sponsors but I noticed some other people don't when they mark incomplete
[12:15] <bdrung> when marking as incomplete and requesting fixes, you need to comment that they should resubscribe u-s
[12:19] <tumbleweed> bdrung: righto.
[12:25] <ScottK> pitti: Did you respin kubuntu on powerpc?
[12:31] <pitti> ScottK: no, sorry; misunderstanding; doing now
[12:31] <pitti> ScottK: desktop, alternate, and/or DVD?
[12:36] <pitti> dvd seems alright, I'll start with desktop
[13:38] <tumbleweed> anyone know anything about the merges.ubuntu.com issue? Should a RT ticket be opened?
[13:54] <superm1> pitti, that's weird, i just did a test build in my sbuild with no change rebuild and was able to install it fine...
[13:55] <pitti> superm1: indeed; the build seems fine, but I don't see it in my chroot
[13:55] <pitti> and nothing in NEW
[13:55] <highvoltage> yay
[13:56] <superm1> i think we might have to skip a3 then for now, i wont be able to look more until tomorrow or so :(
[13:56] <pitti> superm1: ok..
[14:12] <smoser> cjwatson, i would appreciate your thoughts on bug 613463
[14:30] <ScottK> pitti: Kubuntu desktop live powerpc is what I was looking for.
[14:30] <pitti> ScottK: ah, good; it's on cdimage now
[14:30] <ScottK> So it is.
[14:30] <ScottK> No longer oversized, so it worked.
[15:07] <dupondje> are there any plans to upgrade php5 in maverick ?
[15:29] <ScottK> dupondje: 5.3.3 is planned after Alpha 3 is out.
[15:31] <ScottK> NCommander, ogra, etc: I see Bug #504365  and Bug #579187 and am left deeply confused about the proper solution to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52996671/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.uw-imap_8:2007e~dfsg-3.1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - It looks like re-uploading the fix in 504365  would solve the FTBFS, but is somehow "wrong".  Help.
[15:32] <ogra> ScottK, cant help much here, i dont think the fix is wrong as a workaround, there seems to be no clean upstream solution though
[15:33] <ScottK> ogra: Could you or NCommander take this on.  It's well out of my area and I'm not the one to argue with upstream about it.
[15:33]  * ScottK just wants the package to build.
[15:34] <ogra> ScottK, i'll ask NCommander about it and worst case re-add the ubuntu patch
[15:34] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:34] <ogra> it served us well for karmic and lucid :)
[15:35] <ScottK> ogra and NCommander: There's an NMU update in Debian you'll probably want to pick up at the same time.
[15:36] <ogra> k
[15:40] <dupondje> ScottK: great :) as alot of bugs fixed in it
[15:41] <dupondje> ScottK: is there an SRU planned also?
[15:41] <ScottK> dupondje: No idea.
[15:41] <dupondje> 5.3.2-2 version in sid fixes lotsa bugs, would be nice to get it sru'ed
[15:44] <ScottK> dupondje: I think SpamapS would be the one to ask.
[15:44] <Chipzz> dupondje: I don't think "a lot of bugs" qualifies for an SRU?
[15:50] <dupondje> Chipzz: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/current/changelog check the changes in 5.3.2-2, think its nice it would be included in 10.04.1 no ?
[15:51] <zul> dupondje: no it wont get srued as a whole but you can ask for a backport
[15:52] <dupondje> maby not as a whole indeed, but some changes should be included
[15:54] <sabdfl> hi folks, who's the expert on daily build packages? i'm hoping for a favour!
[15:55] <Chipzz> dupondje: what I meant is, aren't SRU's meant to be *individual* changes, rather than a whole batch?
[15:55] <Chipzz> individual -> specific, targeted
[15:56] <Chipzz> dupondje: SRU's are, iirc, specifically not meant to fix a whole bunch of random changes; they're meant to fix high-impact bugs
[15:56] <Chipzz> s/changes/bugs
[15:57] <Chipzz> dupondje: and this:
[15:57] <Chipzz>    * Upload PHP 5.3.3 to experimental for further testing
[15:57] <Chipzz> is a TOTAL red herring
[15:58] <dupondje> Chipzz: I don't say anything about 5.3.3 :) its 5.3.2-2 :)
[15:58] <Chipzz> that still doesn't adres the other things I said
[15:59] <Chipzz>    * Cherry pick patch to allow the timeout on mssql to be effective p/query
[15:59] <Chipzz> I seriously doubt that such changes qualify for an SRU. By a VERY long shot
[16:00] <dupondje> true, but    * Cherry pick patch to fix a memory leak in the cyclical gc for example should be added
[16:00] <Chipzz> no it shouldn't?
[16:00] <Chipzz> it doesn't fix a crash
[16:00] <dupondje> it does
[16:00] <Chipzz> not from the description it doesn't
[16:01] <Chipzz> leaking memory is a very different thing than crashing
[16:03] <dupondje> well the patch fixed a segfault for me. (http://www.dupondje.be/gdb.txt)
[16:03] <Chipzz> I'm not saying leaking memory isn't bad; I AM saying it is seriously doubtfull such fixes qualify for an SRU
[16:03] <Chipzz> then that is even more reason not to include it, unless you can clear out why the decsription differs from what it does
[16:04] <Chipzz> I'ld say that quite the contrary, the fact that it does things which aren't in the description, makes it more likely that there are unwanted side-effects, making it unsuitable for an SRU
[16:05] <tumbleweed> sabdfl: how big a favour? I've got one package I daily-build (no expert)
[16:06] <sabdfl> tumbleweed: daily package of murrine and light-themes? murrine needs a git import (should Just Work on lp)
[16:06] <sabdfl> cimi is doing some work for the Canonical design team and we want folks to be able t track it without having to build locally
[16:06] <Chipzz> dupondje: but seriously, SRU's are not the free ticket to bug-fixes you seem to think they are
[16:06] <tumbleweed> sabdfl: I'll have a shot at it
[16:07] <Chipzz> dupondje: the whole point of SRU's is fixing bugs in a *controlled* manner; that means that we'ld rather live with bugs we *do* know, than fix those bugs "at random", possibly introducing new bugs
[16:07] <dupondje> Chipzz: I know its not every bug is good for an sru, but this one looked ok to me (as it was causing a segfault)
[16:07] <sabdfl> tumbleweed: can i send you mail with details?
[16:08] <sabdfl> addy?
[16:08] <tumbleweed> sabdfl: sure, stefanor@ubuntu
[16:08] <Chipzz> dupondje: anyway, I don't decide what qualifies for an SRU and what doesn't; but from the look of it, this certainly doesn't
[16:08] <sabdfl> thanks, if it's not straightforward that's ok, just tell me and i'll bring in the big guns :-) but i appreciate the offer of help!
[16:09] <tumbleweed> hah :)
[16:09] <Chipzz> like someone else mentioned before, you should cherry-pick the patches one by one, and make sure you understand what they do, and what their impact is
[16:11] <sabdfl> tumbleweed: sent, and thanks again for having a shot at it
[16:12] <Chipzz> dupondje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates ; please read this and understand what it says
[16:13] <dupondje> i'll do, thx Chipzz
[16:29] <SpamapS> mathiaz: so, I really would like to mark ceph as "DONE" today and not "POSTPONED" ... is there anything more I can do to help you sponsor/review it?
[16:34] <mathiaz> SpamapS: working on this now
[16:37] <SpamapS> mathiaz: You are also my hero now.
[16:37] <SpamapS> :)
[16:38] <SpamapS> mathiaz: https://launchpad.net/clb  ... this is my proof of concept backend for node registration
[16:38] <SpamapS> mathiaz: pretty lame but it works ;)
[16:52] <mathiaz> SpamapS: is the ceph module in the maverick kernel?
[17:12] <mathiaz> SpamapS: the ceph package fails to build
[17:12] <mathiaz> SpamapS: in the debian/rules, src/logrotate.conf is copied to debian/
[17:12] <mathiaz> SpamapS: and src/logrotate.conf doesn't exist
[17:18] <SpamapS> mathiaz: oh hmm, I wonder if I just missed it on the import
[17:22] <SpamapS> mathiaz: ok, I pushed a new one, and started a pdebuild on my system...
[17:28] <mathiaz> SpamapS: next error while building the package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/473594/
[17:29] <zul> there mysql 5.1.49, openldap 2.4.23 and php 5.3.3 uploaded
[17:29] <SpamapS> zul: ^10
[17:32] <SpamapS> mathiaz: clearly my merge from upstream's 0.21 tarball was incomplete. :(
[17:36] <SpamapS> mathiaz: ok, I *think* the latest push fixes it.. takes a while to build though so I will confirm in about 20 minutes
[17:37] <SpamapS> mathiaz: if nothing else I can confirm we're in sync with Sage's git repository
[17:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: ok
[17:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I'm also looking that rrdtool merge
[17:37] <SpamapS> mathiaz: cool.. I think I need to poke some people about the libdbi MIR
[17:38] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I thought we only kept the changelog entries after the debian version...
[17:39] <mathiaz> SpamapS: when merging we keep all of the changelog entries
[17:39] <fta> any archive admin to reject python-pysnmp4/2010-07-29 from the lucid/proposed queue? i've uploaded a better version afterwards. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=python-pysnmp4
[17:39] <mathiaz> SpamapS: so that we know since when we've been doing changes and why
[17:39] <SpamapS> mathiaz: Oh, thats actually not how I've done it up to now. :-/
[17:41] <mathiaz> SpamapS: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/samba/maverick/annotate/head%3A/debian/changelog
[17:41] <mathiaz> SpamapS: ^^ here is an example - the maverick branch for samba has lucid and hardy changelog entries
[17:41] <SpamapS> actually wait
[17:42] <SpamapS> no I have been doing that
[17:42] <SpamapS> I just didn't realize it, because merge-o-matic did it for me
[17:43] <SpamapS> seriously.. I don't know if one release cycle is long enough for Ubuntu dev status... there's just too many things to learn in 6 months. ;)
[17:43] <mathiaz> SpamapS: :)
[17:44] <mathiaz> SpamapS: we're learning all the time
[17:44] <mathiaz> SpamapS: if you don't know and are unsure, better ask
[17:44] <mathiaz> SpamapS: even when you're an Ubuntu core dev
[17:45] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I have a very bad habit of "'tis better to ask forgiveness than permission" .. the sponsorship process is beating it out of me tho
[18:03] <SpamapS> mathiaz: current package builds and installs
[18:04] <mathiaz> SpamapS: /o\
[18:14] <mathiaz> SpamapS: hm - It seems that there are some changes in the ceph bzr branch that haven't been included in the orig tarball
[18:15] <mathiaz> SpamapS: doing lsdiff -z ceph_0.21-0ubuntu1.diff.gz shows some changes outside the debian/director
[18:15] <mathiaz> SpamapS: debian directory
[18:15] <SpamapS> mathiaz: the orig tarball changed on us
[18:16] <mathiaz> SpamapS: well - if I take the tarball currently available from the usptream website
[18:16] <SpamapS> mathiaz: hum
[18:16] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it still seems that there are changes in the bzr branch
[18:16] <SpamapS> mathiaz: the fact that we got a 0.21 that was not in fact 0.21 is driving me absolutely batty
[18:17] <SpamapS> mathiaz: will diff against the tarball...
[18:17] <mathiaz> SpamapS: IIUC you've merged all of the upstream git repo into the bzr branch
[18:17] <mathiaz> SpamapS: so there may be some upstream changes that have been picked up while doing so
[18:17] <mathiaz> SpamapS: there is a problem with that - the changes just need to be documented
[18:18] <mathiaz> SpamapS: if they're bug fixes for the 0.21 release they may worth including
[18:18] <SpamapS> mathiaz: the upstream tarball is broken I think.
[18:18] <mathiaz> SpamapS: we just need to make sure we know what we're shipping
[18:18] <mathiaz> SpamapS: and can figure out what changed
[18:18] <SpamapS> mathiaz: right I'd rather ship w/ those things as patches
[18:19] <SpamapS> mathiaz: the logrotate, and sbin/mkcephfs are the two issues I think
[18:20] <SpamapS> mathiaz: the Makefile.am in the tarball puts mkcephfs in usr/sbin ... and logrotate.conf is not there at all
[18:21] <mathiaz> SpamapS: right
[18:21] <SpamapS> mathiaz: so maybe we ship w/ logrotate.conf already in debian (taking out the cp part of the rules file)
[18:21] <SpamapS> mathiaz: and patch Makefile.am w/ quilt
[18:21] <mathiaz> SpamapS: it's ok to include patches that fix these things so that it can build correctly
[18:21] <mathiaz> SpamapS: seems like a solution to me
[18:22] <mathiaz> SpamapS: I'd rather stick to 0.21 as close as we can
[18:23] <SpamapS> mathiaz: agreed
[18:23] <SpamapS> I'll push something momentarily
[18:23] <mathiaz> SpamapS: great thanks
[18:33] <SpamapS> mathiaz: I'll go ahead and let my build finish and test it a little, then push..
[20:12] <mathiaz> kees: hi - would you mind looking at libdbi MIR - bug 608552?
[20:27] <kees> mathiaz: in a bit, sure. i'm trying to get through some security publications first
[20:27] <mathiaz> kees: np - thanks!
[20:30] <azeem_> W 40
[20:35] <geser> ttx: as you sponsored the opendrim-* packages: they are currently in DEPWAIT on sfcb (multiverse). Should they get moved to multiverse too?
[20:53] <neeraj> if a file inside source code, there is a filed Exec=@prefix@/bin/program
[20:54] <neeraj> now I want to add a flag that i should always run in full screen mode
[20:54] <neeraj> -f flag to be precise.
[20:54] <neeraj> How should I add it..  Exec=@prefix@/bin/program -f will do?
[20:55] <neeraj> or Exec=@prefix@"/bin/program -f"
[20:56] <hyperair> the first one will do.
[21:03] <RoAkSoAx> tumbleweed: Another way to what you help me do yesterday: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/473686/
[21:04] <ScottK> geser: I filed a bug asking for them to be moved already.
[21:05] <geser> ok
[21:05] <ScottK> geser: 613624
[21:07] <geser> ScottK: some opendrim-* source packages are already in main, while their binaries are in universe. Do you know if a tool will notice this or are bugs needed to "fix" it?
[21:09] <ScottK> geser: I just grabbed the ones that hadn't built yet due to depwait for 613624.  If moving ends up with some packages in Main/Universe depending on multiverse packages, I think that will get noticed.
[21:18] <smoser> Keybuk, or slangasek maybe... or anyone... what causes mounted-varrun.conf to fire ?
[21:18] <smoser> "start on mounted MOUNTPOINT=/var/run TYPE=tmpfs"
[21:18] <smoser> does mountall just always mount a tmpfs on /var/run ?
[21:20] <neeraj> ty hyperair
[21:22] <Keybuk> well
[21:22] <Keybuk> yes
[21:22] <Keybuk> if mountall's config tells it to
[21:34] <Keybuk> slangasek: so there's one problem with back-porting the manual/override stuff from 0.10 to 0.6
[21:46] <smoser> Keybuk, mountall's config ?
[21:47] <smoser> ah. i see. /lib/init/fstab
[21:49] <slangasek> Keybuk: yes?
[22:02] <Keybuk> slangasek: it's a big problem
[22:09] <slangasek> Keybuk: it will crash the financial system?
[22:11] <Keybuk> worse
[22:11] <Keybuk> it means we have to come up for a name for the directory
[22:50] <slangasek> Keybuk: heh
[22:52] <Keybuk> since they're local overrides, rather than defaults, I did thing /etc/local/*.conf
[23:53] <unimatrix> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ any idea what's going on here?


[00:12] <Riddelll> "digiKam 1.4.0 released..."  late update anyone?
[00:12] <apachelogger> why oh why does Qt not support jfif images :O
[00:13] <Riddelll> apachelogger: maybe, like me, Qt has never heard of jfif
[00:13] <apachelogger> jfif is like cheap jpg
[00:13] <Quintasan_Droid> >cheap jpg
[00:14] <Quintasan_Droid> Why bother using it then?
[00:14] <apachelogger> actually I think the problem Qt has with the particular jfif thing I am trying to render is that it apparently is headerless
[00:14] <Quintasan_Droid> Png is superior in every aspect
[00:14] <apachelogger> Quintasan_Droid: cuase ubuntu one deploys captachas as jfif
[00:14] <Quintasan_Droid> What!?
[00:14] <Quintasan_Droid> BLASPHEMY
[00:15] <apachelogger> ubuntu-sso-client is a butterfly
[00:16] <apachelogger> a butterfly that uses gobjects for no reason at all
[00:16] <apachelogger> a butterfly that instanicfies a gui from the backend
[00:16] <maco> instanicfies???
[00:16] <maco> instantiates?
[00:17] <apachelogger> jesus
[00:17] <apachelogger> time for bed
[00:17] <apachelogger> maco: yes
[00:17]  * apachelogger doesnt get the words no more from tiredness
[00:17] <Riddelll> sweet dreams of butterflys apachelogger
[00:18] <valorie> sleep well, apachelogger
[00:28] <Riddell> anyone seen https://edge.launchpad.net/~blca/+archive/published ?  loads of KDE bits, might be worth asking him to get into more official packaging
[00:46] <Riddell> dantti: packagekit finally uploaded, growl at autoconf
[00:46] <Riddell> kpackagekit and debconf-kde too
[00:47] <dantti> Riddelll: nice :D hopefully I'll change it to cmake
[01:03] <Quintasan> Riddell: should I mention bringing a guardian with me in the Further information field?
[01:04] <Riddell> Quintasan: if you would have someone with you I guess you need to say that, including whether he/she needs a bed and would be paying for it
[01:05] <Quintasan> okay
[01:06] <patcito> hi
[01:06] <Quintasan> Riddell: sent
[01:06] <Quintasan> patcito: hello
[01:06] <patcito> when I try to compile choqok I get that: http://pastie.org/1116520.txt?key=kskih4mhf4ufcxphbf5yhw
[01:06] <patcito> any idea why?
[01:06] <Riddell> Quintasan: groovy
[01:06] <Quintasan>                  http://pastie.org/1116520.txt?key=kskih4mhf4ufcxphbf5yhw
[01:06] <Quintasan> brr
[01:07] <Riddell> I expect package 'kwebkitpart' not found is the problem
[01:07] <Quintasan> patcito: you lack development headers for kwebkitpart
[01:08] <patcito> libkwebkit-dev is already the newest version.
[01:08] <Quintasan> CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindPhonon.cmake:19 (file):
[01:08] <Quintasan> that can also be a problem
[01:09] <patcito> I do have libqt4-phonon-dev installed, and every package with phonon and dev in it
[01:09] <Riddell> patcito: try  apt-get build-dep choqok ?
[01:09] <patcito> already did that
[01:09] <Quintasan> Riddell: well, I hope for approval, the queue is getting more and more boring over the years
[01:09] <Quintasan> Time for bed I guess
[01:09] <Quintasan> Good night
[01:10] <Riddell> patcito: install libphonon-dev
[01:10] <Riddell> Quintasan: night
[01:10] <patcito> libphonon-dev is already the newest version.
[02:51] <JontheEchidna> grr, I'm always getting the kmix and networkmanagement icons mixed up :/
[02:51] <valorie> me too
[02:52] <valorie> almost identical except for alignment
[02:52] <JontheEchidna> well, I guess both speakers and wifi radio emit waves :P
[02:54] <valorie> they used to be different colors, didn't they?
[02:54] <valorie> now all bleached out too
[02:54] <valorie> agreed
[02:54] <valorie> but I'm still fighting with kmix daily anyway
[02:55] <valorie> *every day* I have to reset it from 50% volume to 100%
[02:58] <JontheEchidna> I sorta liked the vertical bars from kde3-knetworkmanager and the gnome networkmanager gui
[03:00] <dequire_> valorie: Why not just open a terminal and run "alsamixer" and max out everything? wouldn't that help?
[03:00] <valorie> I used to do that every day
[03:01] <valorie> kmix is just as easy, and it's right there
[03:01] <valorie> neither one will stick
[03:01] <valorie> it's a lucid thing for me, I guess
[03:01] <valorie> hoping Mav cures it
[03:01] <valorie> I haven't found anyone else complaining about it
[03:04] <dequire_> valorie: all. well, for me, once set in alsamixer it tends to stick. hope you get it worked out.
[03:04] <valorie> never had the problem before lucid
[03:05] <valorie> upgrading to Mav on Sat. -- global jam
[03:05] <valorie> so we'll see then
[03:06] <dequire_> I'm running both 4.5 on both pc an dlaptop atm. one is lucid, one MM alpha. no problems on either regarding sound.
[03:06] <dequire_> must be a hardware thing
[03:07] <valorie> not up to 4.5 yet
[03:07] <valorie> I assume that will happen on Sat. also
[03:09] <dequire_> is that global jam the one that Nightrose was talking about that takes place here on IRC?
[03:09] <dequire_> if so, I plan to attend also :)
[03:09] <valorie> one can do it via IRC, yes
[03:09] <valorie> we're meeting locally
[03:10] <valorie> and hoping to see more of the state in IRC
[03:14] <dequire_> i was at camp kde and getting pretty involved. but, as so often happens, life interfered for a while. hoping to get back in now.
[03:15]  * valorie is just getting more deeply involved
[03:15] <valorie> right now, writing the handbook for amarok
[03:15] <valorie> speaking of which
[03:15] <valorie> back to work
[03:16] <dequire_> good luck :)
[03:44] <ScottK> Riddell, NCommander: kdeedu FTBFS.  Usual alignment type stuff: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54413165/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdeedu_4:4.5.0b-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[03:46] <NCommander> ScottK: bindings built?
[04:06] <nigelb> um, where is the LP branch for kubuntu docs?
[04:06]  * valorie 's ears perk up
[04:07] <valorie> i don't know of such a thing
[04:07]  * nigelb found
[04:07] <nigelb> https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs
[04:07] <valorie> the Amarok HB etc. are in userbase.kde.org
[04:08] <valorie> iiiinteresting
[04:08] <valorie> but my hands are full right now
[04:09] <nigelb> did you hard disk finish copying to backup/
[04:09] <valorie> oh, no
[04:09] <valorie> I did reformat
[04:10] <valorie> and supposedly partitioned
[04:10] <valorie> although -- doesn't look like it
[04:10] <valorie> gosh dang it, I meant to call my son about that
[04:10] <valorie> I got partitionmanager
[04:11] <valorie> and it said it created a partition, but it doesn't look like my lappy HD
[04:11] <valorie> in the little image
[04:11] <valorie> so
[04:11] <valorie> mystified
[04:11] <valorie> if it had to be mounted to be partitioned, you would think it would ask me to do that right?
[04:11] <nigelb> yeah
[04:12] <nigelb> but it shouldn't be mounted for partition btw
[04:12] <valorie> k
[04:12] <valorie> I'll probably start it backing up before I go to bed tonight
[04:12] <valorie> so it can work while I sleep
[04:12] <nigelb> :)
[04:12] <valorie> will take awhile
[04:13] <valorie> and I need to work now
[05:13] <ScottK> NCommander: It did.  kdeedu, not so much.
[05:15] <NCommander> ScottK: ../../../rocs/src/Core/node.cpp:210: error: prototype for 'void Node::setWidth(qreal)' does not match any in class 'Node'
[05:15] <NCommander> ../../../rocs/src/Core/node.h:88: error: candidate is: void Node::setWidth(double)
[05:15] <NCommander> ScottK: it doesn't seem that hard to fix
[05:15] <ScottK> NCommander: For you.
[08:57] <apachelogger> good morning kubuntu
[08:58] <Riddell> good morning harald
[09:06] <debfx> Good morning
[09:16] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/001.png <---
[09:16] <apachelogger> ha!
[09:16] <apachelogger> ha!!!!
[09:17] <jussi> LOL
[09:19] <Riddell> you must be doing something really nasty to ubuntu-sso
[09:43] <persia> Riddell, apachelogger: from overnight backscroll, I'm apparently enabling images for kubuntu-mobile.  This doesn't happen to be something I'm authorised to do :)  Would one of you mind merging/uploading https://code.launchpad.net/~persia/livecd-rootfs/kubuntu-mobile?
[09:44]  * apachelogger is hacking
[09:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, that gnome theming issue with kolourpaint4 does not have nothing to do with kolourpaint
[09:44] <apachelogger> I am getting this every 5 minute or so
[09:45] <persia> No rush :)  I just didn't want anyone blocking waiting on me for something I can't do.
[09:45] <apachelogger> running quassel, creator, chrome, konsole, qdbusviewer
[09:45] <Riddell> apachelogger: I expected so
[09:45] <Riddell> persia: let me look
[09:46] <persia> Riddell, Thanks.  I'm told this was the only non-cdimage bit undone (and have cdimage people prepared to act once this is done)
[09:46] <Riddell> persia: you're not a core-dev?
[09:47] <persia> I'm not.  I'll likely apply sometime soonish, but I need to actually do a healthy chunk of work in main first (probably target some of the relatively orphaned merges for natty)
[09:48] <Riddell> I'm sure editing livecd-rootfs counts towards your application :)
[09:49] <persia> Certainly, and I've been hitting it most cycles since Jaunty, but I have fairly high criteria before I'd approve a core-dev, and don't currently meet them.
[09:52] <Riddell> persia: merged
[09:52]  * Riddell tries to remember how that gets synced to the server
[09:53] <persia> It's not synchronised with the UDD stuff.  You merge lp:livecd-rootfs, and upload, and it auto-updates lp:ubuntu/livecd-rootfs (or at least the branches weren't compatible yesterday, when I checked
[09:54] <persia> And thanks!
[09:55] <Riddell> but somehow it must get onto the CD builders
[09:55] <Riddell> maybe that just happens by magic
[09:55] <persia> Oh, yeah, there's a cronjob that pulls it daily.
[09:55] <persia> And lamont kicks it when it breaks.
[09:56] <Riddell> lamont == magic
[09:56]  * persia forgets what time
[09:56] <persia> Oh, right.  magic then :)
[09:58] <Riddell> persia: so who are the magical cdimage people who are not prepared to act?
[09:58] <persia> not?
[09:59] <Riddell> s/not/now/
[09:59] <persia> I believe NCommander has a branch ready that enables some images, but he's busy at the moment digging through some FTBFS.  If that doesn't change by timezone switch, I'm planning to pass the patch to ogra.
[10:00] <NCommander> Riddell: persia: I'll make the changes to cdimage itself, but I can't roll livecd-rootfs changes as I'm not a core-dev
[10:00] <persia> NCommander, Riddell just merged/uploaded that.
[10:02] <NCommander> persia: Riddell: Ah. then we need to wait for the livecd-rootfs crontab updates livecd-rootfs in the image builders chroot
[10:02] <persia> Precisely.
[10:06] <Riddell> I'll just have to be patient then :)
[10:07] <persia> Well, if you're bored and want to do it in advance, that works too, but I think too many people will get error notifications.
[10:08] <ari-tczew> apachelogger: cannot you reproduce kolourpaint4-gnome issue? I saw your message ~30 minutes ago
[10:09] <Riddell> apachelogger: he says he can
[10:09] <Riddell> ari-tczew: rather
[10:12] <ari-tczew> Riddell: so, yes or not? (my english is not always perfect)
[10:12] <Riddell> ari-tczew: he can reproduce it yes
[10:12] <ari-tczew> Riddell: aaaa nice!
[10:12] <Riddell> NCommander: I had a shot at the kdeedu build failure, put it into PPA, not sure I got it right though
[10:18] <NCommander> Riddell: does it build?
[10:19] <Quintasan> bah
[10:19] <Quintasan> good morning
[10:21] <Quintasan> persia: have a spare minute
[10:21] <Quintasan> ?
[10:23] <persia> Quintasan, I'll dig one up :)  What's up?
[10:25] <Quintasan> persia: well i wanted to order something from yahoo.jp but that dude wont ship anywhere outside Japan
[10:26] <persia> So you want me to beat Hunter over the head with a stick, or receive it on your behalf?
[10:27] <Quintasan> persia: well, first i wanted to know the postal fee to Poland
[10:27] <persia> No idea.  I know shipping to Germany is pricey, but acceptable.  I presume Poland it a bit more (just because there's less traffic)
[10:28] <Quintasan> the cd is 1000 yen, is shipping to germany more expensive than 2000 yen
[10:28] <Quintasan> ?
[10:29] <persia> Dunno off hand.  The local CD shipping expert ought be around within a couple hours, and I'll get a range for some shipments to Europe.  Rough guess would be in the 1-2 thousand range.
[10:36] <Riddell> NCommander: on i386 yes but I don't have arm to test on
[10:36] <NCommander> Riddell: where's the package, I'll copy it into an ARM PPA for a testbuild.
[10:37] <Riddell> NCommander: I already uploaded it to the ARM PPA
[10:38] <NCommander> Riddell: ah. If it builds, ship it ;-)
[10:39]  * NCommander ducks
[10:46] <apachelogger> the seven drunken nights
[10:46]  * apachelogger sings
[10:48] <NCommander> Riddell: I'm extremely bandwidth strapped. I think your best bet is to upload if it doesn't regress on x86. If you post your diff, I'll review
[10:48] <jussi> apachelogger: its not night yet mate...
[10:49] <glaucous> I need to generate a build log for kTorrent 4.0.2, I'm not exactly sure what it should look like, or how I generate it. I guess it's not just the output of cmake and make?
[10:49] <glaucous> For backports, that is.
[10:55] <Riddell> ghostcube: you're on lucid?
[10:55] <Riddell> not ghostcube
[10:55] <Riddell> glaucous: you're on lucid?
[10:55] <glaucous> Riddell: Yes
[10:55] <Riddell> apachelogger, JontheEchidna: y'know when we replaced update-notifier-kde?  did we remember to replace the devel dist upgrade option?
[10:56] <Riddell> glaucous: do you know how to download the karmic package?
[10:57] <glaucous> Riddell: I've not heard of it, so no. Might add that I'm using KDE 4.5.
[10:57] <Riddell> glaucous: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libktorrent
[10:58] <Riddell> click on maverick version to get to https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libktorrent/1.0.2-1
[10:58] <Riddell> under downloads, grab those three files into a new directory
[10:58] <Riddell> in that directory run   dpkg-source -x *dsc   to extract it
[10:58] <Riddell> cd libktorrent-<tab>
[10:58] <Riddell> debuild
[10:58] <Riddell> you'll need to apt-get install devscripts  first I expeect
[11:00] <glaucous> Ah, thanks. Just need to uninstall the current one I built
[11:08] <sheytan> Hey guys :)
[11:09] <sheytan> can someone tell me what kubuntu devs are using for developing stuff? I already know kdevelop, plasmate, qtcreator. Anything else? :)
[11:09] <Riddell> emacs, kate
[11:11]  * persia knows of a nano user in kubuntu-devel, and suspects some vim folk
[11:11] <sheytan> ok, thank you :)
[11:19] <glaucous> Riddell: Hm, well the debuild failed after a while. (Had to install libboost-dev and doxygen) Are there any other packages I might need for debuild?
[11:20] <Riddell> glaucous: pastebin the error message
[11:20] <glaucous> Aye
[11:20] <glaucous> Riddell: http://pastebin.org/775306
[11:21] <Riddell> glaucous: hmm, symbols stuff
[11:21] <Riddell> glaucous: try  rm debian/libktorrent2.symbols
[11:21] <Riddell> debuild -nc
[11:23] <glaucous> Right, building
[11:24] <glaucous> Riddell: Error, something about secret key. http://pastebin.org/775343
[11:29] <apachelogger> jussi: oh, my you bun too was so dark I thought it was night
[11:29] <jussi> apachelogger: :D
[11:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: that is in do-dist-upgrade or whatever that script is called
[11:30] <Riddell> glaucous: good that means its completed
[11:31] <Riddell> glaucous: now dpkg --install the .deb files it made
[11:31] <Riddell> glaucous: and do the same thing for ktorrent itself
[11:33] <apachelogger> I propose that ubuntu-sso-client-kde should advertise ktouch
[11:34] <apachelogger> like that http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/002.png
[11:35] <glaucous> Riddell: Alright
[11:36] <glaucous> Riddell: Should I use debuild -ns directly this time? Or debuild, then bebuild -ns if needed?
[11:40] <Riddell> glaucous: debuild  to build the whole thing
[11:40] <Riddell> debuild -nc  continues a build without having to do the whole thing, use it if you get a build failure which you then fix
[11:40] <glaucous> Riddell: Ah I see
[11:41] <glaucous> I'm just curious how this whole thing works. Maverick is things which are in active development, so what I'm doing with those files is just testing to see if they work correctly on Kubuntu?
[11:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: I see you're ahead of me with bug 611760
[11:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: I very much think the metarelease patch should be added to update-manager since it moves pre-release upgrade testing a lot closer to what it will look like after release
[11:52] <glaucous> Riddell: Build and install was successful, however it seems like all plugins (which were available when I built 4.0.2 from their site) are missing. The program is downloading and working though.
[11:54] <Riddell> glaucous: quit ktorrent, run kbuildsycoca and run ktorrent again, see if that helps plugins
[11:56] <glaucous> Riddell: Hm, what did that do? It fixed it
[11:56] <Riddell> apachelogger: best talk to mvo about that?
[11:56] <glaucous> Riddell: Okay well it's working perfectly, now exactly what files should I upload when sending bug report?
[11:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, but I am hacking :P
[12:06] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/003.png
[12:08] <Riddell> glaucous: the .build files need attached
[12:08] <Riddell> glaucous: and say that the .symbols file isn't valid for lucid so that needs fixed or removed for the backport
[12:09] <glaucous> Riddell: Aye. What would be a appropriate title for this? Better follow a valid pattern from the beginning :)
[12:10] <Riddell> glaucous: build log for <packagename> <version> on lucid
[12:10] <glaucous> Riddell: Would you like libktorrent and ktorrent on different reports?
[12:10] <Riddell> glaucous: yes I think there's already two separate bugs for them
[12:10] <glaucous> Would make sense
[12:10] <Riddell> (mention the libktorrent bug number in the ktorrent bug)
[12:12] <glaucous> Riddell: Already? Should I write in an existing bug report, or add a new one?
[12:15] <Riddell> glaucous: didn't you file one already?
[12:15] <glaucous> Riddell: Not yet
[12:16] <Riddell> glaucous: oh go ahead and do so then
[12:16] <Riddell> launchpad.net/lucid-backports
[12:16] <glaucous> Riddell: Yup thanks
[12:24] <glaucous> Riddell: There.. both up
[12:24] <Riddell> glaucous: bug numbers?
[12:24] <glaucous> Riddell: #624588 and #624590
[12:25] <Riddell> bug 624588  and bug 624590
[12:25] <Riddell> say it like that for ubottu happyness :)
[12:25] <glaucous> Riddell: Oh okay
[12:29] <glaucous>  Riddell: Great, now I (hopefully) know how to submit more reports to backports if any other software comes to mind
[12:31] <Riddell> glaucous: nothing to stop you now :)
[12:31] <glaucous> Riddell: Yah! Thanks for the help :)
[12:36] <Riddell> waa http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/lucid-to-maveric-dist-upgrade-error.text
[12:44]  * apachelogger is not sure that a kassistantdialog is suited for ubuntu-sso-client :S
[12:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: with a lanugage with proper type system this would not have happened :P
[12:45] <Riddell> apachelogger: fallen out of love with ruby have we? :)
[12:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: ruby has a proper type system
[12:46] <apachelogger> just different
[12:46] <apachelogger> in ruby you act upon available functions, not particular type
[12:47] <apachelogger> which in itelf makes much more sense since I do not care if I have a QString or a KString as long as both have a isEmpty() function I will use in my method foobar(str)
[12:48] <apachelogger> the problem is that those rails users do not know about that and even if they did they would not use it, so ruby is practically rendered as incapable as python thanks to the rails people :P
[12:50] <apachelogger> ohhhh
[12:50]  * apachelogger did not know that kpagedialog supports subpages
[12:51] <apachelogger> why did no one tell me?
[12:51]  * apachelogger blames jussi
[12:51]  * apachelogger likes this way better
[12:51] <jussi> It wasnt me! I swear... I blame... Riddell
[12:53] <apachelogger> and there is a bug!
[12:53]  * apachelogger blames Quintasan for bugs
[12:58] <Riddell> who broke the kubuntu-desktop package?!
[12:58]  * apachelogger pointes at ScottK
[13:01]  * apachelogger whines about his broken next button
[13:03] <apachelogger> so
[13:03] <apachelogger> I need a GUI that allows both registration with Ubuntu One *as well as* login
[13:03] <apachelogger> option a) tabs: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/004.png
[13:03] <apachelogger> option b) list: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/005.png
[13:04] <apachelogger> option c) tree list: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/006.png
[13:04] <apachelogger> option d) widget with button somewhere saying "Already have an account - let me login": http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/002.png
[13:04] <apachelogger> the GTK UI uses option d
[13:04] <apachelogger> I do not like c and d
[13:05] <apachelogger> and quite frankly I do not find a or b very compelling either ... hence option e) have the first page of the dialog show to large buttons one for login and one for register, with nice icon and such
[13:05] <apachelogger> opionions anyone?
[13:05] <apachelogger> pretty plz
[13:06]  * apachelogger pokes jussi and Riddell and Nightrose and Mamarok and people :)
[13:06]  * persia likes 004.png
[13:07] <apachelogger> with a vs. b I would also go for a (that is the one with the bug I was whining about though ;))
[13:07] <persia> Right :(
[13:10] <Nightrose> 004
[13:10] <persia> Suddenly that becomes an important bug :)
[13:11]  * Nightrose vanishes again for some house cleaning
[13:11]  * apachelogger sneezes
[13:11] <apachelogger> quite dusty :P
[13:12] <apachelogger> persia: should not be terribly difficult to fix, seems some model query is bogus with regards to subpages
[13:14] <persia> Oh, good.
[13:19] <jussi> apachelogger: I like d...
[13:19] <jussi> apachelogger: failing d, then b
[13:20] <apachelogger> with icons btw: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/007.png http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/008.png
[13:21] <jussi> definately the first one
[13:21] <persia> jussi, Why d) over a)?  To me the tab implies that the user will have to fill out a separate set of details, whereas a button doesn't.
[13:24] <jussi> persia: people are very used to clicking an "already have an account" - it exists in many applications.
[13:25] <persia> Fair.  I think it's bad in all of them, but consistency has value.
[13:25] <jussi> I think its fairly normal, "web" approch, clicking a link takes you to a new page.
[13:26] <jussi> If you do it similar to skype for instance, its just a little link.
[13:26] <jussi> rather than a button
[13:28] <apachelogger> persia, jussi: the fact that other apps do it does not mean that it makes sense and implementing something that does not make sense for the sake of fitting in with broken apps is simply wrong
[13:28] <apachelogger> IMHO
[13:28] <jussi> apachelogger: jes, but I still think it makes sense, click a button/link takes you to the next/new thing
[13:30] <apachelogger> jussi: in the web, on the desktop clicking a link opens a browser
[13:34] <sheytan> Hey guys
[13:34] <agateau> apachelogger: I prefer d) because it means a more "wizard-like" sequential use
[13:34] <agateau> apachelogger: the other ones look too similar to configuration dialogs imho
[13:34] <sheytan> i recorded some screencast on maveric using recordmydesktop, but on lucid they look broken
[13:34] <sheytan> i heard that on lucid there's a problem with recordmydesktop
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> +1 for d), same reasons as agateau
[13:35] <sheytan> is there a way  to fix it?
[13:36] <apachelogger> agateau: it is not really sequential, registration and login are equal paths towards login state
[13:36] <agateau> apachelogger: oh I see
[13:37] <agateau> apachelogger: this dialog is only shown at setup time, right?
[13:37] <apachelogger> yep
[13:38] <apachelogger> and since the paths are equal I was more thinking towards having a selection dialog, asking the user if he already has an Ubuntu One account or not and then proceed to the actual page
[13:38] <agateau> apachelogger: I would do something similar to what web sites do: prompt for connect info first, with a button to create the account
[13:38] <apachelogger> I am afraid going right away to the registration seems a bit out of context
[13:39] <apachelogger> agateau: that could work
[13:39] <agateau> apachelogger: this is what skype does iirc
[13:40] <apachelogger> true
[13:40] <apachelogger> also the login page would be rather empty otherwise anyway
[13:40]  * apachelogger tries that
[13:45] <Riddell> Sime: waa, marble.so has suddenly decided to install to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/PyKDE4/ instead of dist-packages, why would it do that?
[13:47] <NCommander> hey guys, what do you want the filename of the Kubuntu Mobile live images to be. it will come out mavierck-desktop-arch right now, but I can change that if need be
[13:48]  * persia would think maverick-mobile-arch for lives
[13:48] <Riddell> yes
[14:05] <JontheEchidna> What would you guys think of making a dpkg trigger on files being installed in /usr/share/applications/kde4/ and /usr/share/kde4/services/, so that it would trigger a kbuildsycoca4 run? Perhaps make the trigger + postinst file for the libkdecore5 package
[14:06] <JontheEchidna> Otherwise new apps wont' show up until after a logout/login for most users
[14:06] <apachelogger> wha?
[14:07] <apachelogger> for one triggers would run as root which would not help with the problem you described
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> gah, same problem as langpacks in that regard :/
[14:07] <apachelogger> and for another the argument is wrong sicne kbuildsycoca4 gets triggered automatically
[14:07] <apachelogger> if the auto trigger is not working then something is broken and that should be fixed
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> doesn't in my experience
[14:07] <apachelogger> delay between app installation and appearing in the sycoca should be no more than 1 minute
[14:11] <JontheEchidna> hmm, the menu updated by kbuildsycoca never ran
[14:11] <Riddell> kbuildsycoca4 can be unreliable in that regard as glaucous found earlier
[14:12] <Riddell> might be inotify issues
[14:12] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: thre options come to mind with triggers: a) kbuildsycoca has already the ability to create a global sycoca but AFAIK that only gets *cloned* for new users, if that were to be changed to an on-the-fly fallback it could be updated using a trigger and help with the delay b) sycoca could be hooked up with the various gnome/fdo cache thingies that support global caches and actually have triggers already 3) come up with a system
[14:12] <apachelogger>  (dbus call?) to all running kdeds to trigger a refresh
[14:12] <apachelogger> of which ought to be upstreamable i suppose
[14:12] <apachelogger> *all of which
[14:14] <Riddell> Sime: well overridden with -DPYTHON_SITE_PACKAGES_INSTALL_DIR:PATH=/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages
[14:15] <sheytan> Hey guys
[14:15] <sheytan> where can i fing the new logo in svg?
[14:15] <Riddell> KubuntuArtwork on wiki
[14:15] <apachelogger> brrr
[14:15] <apachelogger> gnome is silly
[14:15] <sheytan> Thanks :)
[14:15] <apachelogger> my rhythmbox died like half an hour ago
[14:15] <apachelogger> I cannot force quit it
[14:16] <apachelogger> with kwin you get that "do you wanna kill it dead" qustion if a window does not react in gnome you get nothing
[14:16] <apachelogger> also it does not just kill it or anything
[14:16] <apachelogger> maybe the window manager is going down with rhytmbox *shrug*
[14:17] <Riddell> I think metacity has that but maybe compiz doesn't
[14:17] <apachelogger> very odd I must say
[14:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: is metacity default on ubuntu?
[14:17] <apachelogger> if so then the capability seems broken
[14:17]  * apachelogger issues a killall
[14:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: no compiz is I believe
[14:23] <apachelogger> ok
[14:25] <persia> metacity is the default fallback if the user selects no desktop effects, or the system detects insufficient GL acceleration.
[14:32] <apachelogger> persia, agateau, jussi: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/009.png
[14:32] <apachelogger> like skype inspired that is ;)
[14:33] <agateau> hehe :)
[14:33] <agateau> apachelogger: I like it.
[14:34] <agateau> apachelogger:  if the window is always shown this large, then maybe you can use classic labels instead of click texts?
[14:34]  * persia doesn't generally assume underlined bits in non-browsers are clickable links, but isn't an expert at what those who haven't spent their lives in front of computers do with them.
[14:35] <apachelogger> agateau: yeah, I need to play a bit with that, in fact it is only that big because later on it will embed a pretty wide picture
[14:35] <agateau> apachelogger: ah ok, so click texts probably makes sense
[14:35] <apachelogger> persia: I think blue text with underline is pretty much the regular definition of a link ^^
[14:36] <superfly> not sure I would put "Don't have an account yet?" between the fields... perhaps below them, in front of "Forgot your password?"
[14:36] <persia> apachelogger, For browsers, yeah :)
[14:39] <apachelogger> persia: GNOME is breaking up the desktop and makes it a browser anyway, so in the long run that means the same ;)
[14:39] <persia> And you think that's a good example to follow?
[14:39] <apachelogger> I did not say that :P
[14:40] <apachelogger> superfly: I am afraid that makes it look very "blockish"
[14:41] <superfly> apachelogger: perhaps... I just feel that the link is in the wrong place, it distracts the user from typing in their password
[14:43] <apachelogger> superfly: hm, that is true, then again with apachelogger strings you better watch that you enter the right data or you will start crying because the application shouts at you :P
[14:43]  * apachelogger adds a todo item to reconsider placement
[14:43] <JontheEchidna> I'm running in to bug 606302 daily :(
[14:43] <superfly> haha, is that so?
[14:44] <apachelogger> either that or the app get suicidal
[14:44] <apachelogger> ubuntone-kde's statusnotifier went suicidal
[14:44] <apachelogger> poor thing
[14:44] <apachelogger> never really died though
[14:44] <apachelogger> sometimes it ate a lot though ;)
[14:45] <txwikinger> folks.. I need some material for Saturday
[14:45] <apachelogger> what is on saturday?
[14:45] <apachelogger> :O
[14:46] <txwikinger> if there are any area of bugs that need some care, or somethin that need packaging.. just tell me
[14:46] <txwikinger> apachelogger: Global Jam
[14:46] <apachelogger> oh
[14:46] <apachelogger> kdepim :P
[14:46] <txwikinger> I have already noted iso testing
[14:46] <superfly> txwikinger: that's a good idea
[14:46] <txwikinger> hey superfly
[14:46] <superfly> hey txwikinger, going well?
[14:46] <apachelogger> txwikinger: rekonq !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:46] <txwikinger> apachelogger: what? testing? or bug triage?
[14:46] <ScottK> kdenetwork has a bunch of open bugs that might stand review/upstreaming.
[14:47] <apachelogger> txwikinger: testing for rekonq
[14:47] <apachelogger> a lot of it
[14:47] <txwikinger> ok
[14:47] <txwikinger> ScottK: noted
[14:47] <apachelogger> triage you can go for the regulars ... libs, workspace, runtime, pim
[14:48] <NCommander> Who here is doing the kubuntu-netbook seed stuff
[14:48]  * NCommander is working on making your images come into existance
[14:49] <ScottK> NCommander: I've done some of it.
[14:49] <NCommander> ScottK: I think somewhere along the line, something went wrong
[14:49]  * NCommander isn't quite sure what yet, but is debugging
[14:51] <ScottK> Looks like the last upload of kubuntu-meta may not have been idea.
[14:51] <ScottK> idea/ideal.
[14:52] <Riddell> ScottK: I fixed that (I hoep)
[14:53] <ScottK> OK.
[14:53] <ScottK> Let me make sure I have the latest.
[14:53] <Riddell> txwikinger: digikam, kipi-plugins, kmess all need packaging
[14:54] <Riddell> NCommander: we don't have kubuntu-netbook any more
[14:54] <ScottK> Riddell: I didn't have the latest.
[14:54] <NCommander> Riddell: we don't?
[14:54] <Riddell> nope, it's all part of one happy CD image
[14:54] <NCommander> ScottK: I'm doing the backend work on antimony to get mobile off the gorund
[14:55] <ScottK> NCommander: Great.  You should be able to netbook/mobile in a lot of places.
[14:55] <ScottK> (since we don't need the netbook stuff anymore)
[14:55] <NCommander> ScottK: if netbook is dead, do you mind if I zap the dailies for maverick fo it?
[14:55] <ScottK> NCommander: Please do.
[14:55] <NCommander> ScottK: can't, we need to retain the ability to build netbook because shipped a release with it
[14:55] <NCommander> (welcome to my world)
[14:55] <ScottK> Ah.  Right.
[14:57] <NCommander> ScottK: right, it seems something went wrong with your seed, I'm not getting default settings
[14:57] <Riddell> yeah keep netbook for the lucid.1 bits
[14:57]  * ScottK looks at the seeds.
[14:57] <Riddell> NCommander: kubuntu-meta is broken in 1.197
[14:57] <Riddell> you need 1.198
[14:57] <NCommander> Riddell: we don't use the metapackage, we use the tasks directively in the archive
[14:57] <persia> Careful about s/netbook/mobile/ because of 10.04.x images...
[14:58] <NCommander> persia: I'm not doing a search and replace
[14:58] <NCommander> its just a need line or an |
[14:58] <NCommander> Riddell: ScottK: Right, so Launchpad thinks default settings isn't seeded
[14:58] <NCommander> (there's no task for it)
[14:58] <ScottK> persia: Yes.  That already got pointed out to me.
[14:58] <ScottK> Looking
[14:58] <NCommander> which is why its not showing up when I run germinate on antimony
[14:59] <ScottK> NCommander: It's in the seed.  Is germinate looking in Universe?
[14:59] <NCommander> ScottK: germinate is looking at the tasks
[14:59] <ScottK> (is plasma-mobile getting picked up)?
[14:59] <NCommander> Nope
[14:59] <NCommander> ugh
[14:59] <NCommander> I think I know what happened
[14:59] <NCommander> We need to go smack the LP folks
[15:00] <NCommander> ScottK: (if you want to see if a package is seeded in a way to have it picked up by images, do apt-cache show, and then look for it on the Tasks: line)
[15:00] <ScottK> That's always true, only the reason seems to change.
[15:01] <NCommander> ScottK: basically, what happened is LP has a special crontab that generates switched
[15:01] <persia> NCommander, cron.germinate?  I thought that was avoided because of the reuse of the seed.
[15:01] <NCommander> kubuntu is marked as main-only
[15:01] <NCommander> persia: right, but the supported/unsupported switch is on a branch basis
[15:01]  * persia missed that :(
[15:02] <NCommander> if you want universe, you need to patch launchpad to handle it, or split the branch
[15:02] <NCommander> I can't build an image until this is done
[15:03] <ScottK> NCommander: plasma-mobile shows up with a Task, but it's in Universe.
[15:03] <NCommander> persia: I don't see it with a task
[15:03] <NCommander> wait
[15:03] <NCommander> scratch that
[15:03] <NCommander> I do
[15:03] <NCommander> I mightbe wrong then
[15:03] <NCommander> then why the heck isn't kubuntu-mobile-default-settings not getting seeded
[15:03] <ScottK> NFC
[15:04] <NCommander> ScottK: that's useful :-P
[15:04] <ScottK> It's all I've got.
[15:04] <NCommander> when did you seed default settings?
[15:04] <Riddell> it was only seeded yesterday at 21:00
[15:04] <NCommander> ah
[15:04] <NCommander> the crontab might not have gotten it yet
[15:05] <NCommander> That's probably what happened
[15:05] <NCommander> hrm
[15:05]  * NCommander can't remember if seed supdate with each publisher run or not ...
[15:06] <persia> It was once daily, but I haven't asked in a few cycles.
[15:08] <NCommander> persia: I can't remember expect it happens magically
[15:08] <agateau> Riddell: ping
[15:09] <agateau> Riddell: just posted a patch for bug #617367
[15:09] <agateau> Riddell: it hads mpris2.0 support to Amarok
[15:09] <agateau> Riddell: can you get it included?
[15:12] <Riddell> can do
[15:12] <Riddell> agateau: has upstream seen it?
[15:12] <agateau> Riddell: not yet, but I talked with them about it
[15:12] <agateau> Riddell: and it's on gitorious
[15:14]  * agateau goes creating a merge request
[15:15] <NCommander> Riddell: ScottK: just a heads up, we're unlikely to have live images in time for beta
[15:15] <NCommander> We will have alternatives though
[15:16] <ScottK> Because?
[15:16] <NCommander> or I should say, beta freeze
[15:16] <ScottK> Sure.
[15:16] <ScottK> I think that's a given.
[15:16] <NCommander> ScottK: cause we need IS to roll something by hand to finish adding a new flavour
[15:16] <NCommander> ScottK: We have a request in progress, but since we're suppose to cross beta freeze like ... now ..
[15:16] <ScottK> OK.  I never figured it'd be ready at freeze.
[15:17]  * ScottK still hopes to get kdeedu fixed before beta if someone would write the fix ....
[15:17] <NCommander> ScottK: subtle :-P
[15:18] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks for fixing the Python bits.
[15:18] <Riddell> ScottK: i've no idea why kdeedu needed that
[15:18] <ScottK> NCommander: Subtle isn't my specialty.
[15:19] <ScottK> Riddell: Me neither.  I looked for Python toolchain changes and could never find anything relevant.  I also didn't figure out what it needed either.
[15:21] <NCommander> Riddell: can you ACK a cdimage patch for me?
[15:22] <NCommander> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/483983/
[15:23] <Riddell> NCommander: ack
[15:23] <NCommander> Riddell: thanks
[15:31] <NCommander> ScottK: Riddell: smoke test 2 in progress
[15:31] <agateau> Riddell: merge request created: http://gitorious.org/amarok/amarok/merge_requests/2271
[15:36] <apachelogger> ubuntu-sso-client is widget hell!!!!
[15:38] <Riddell> agateau: is there a way to test it?
[15:38] <agateau> Riddell: on gnome, yes
[15:39] <agateau> Riddell: With the patch Amarok integrates in the sound menu
[15:39] <Riddell> agateau: which version of amarok is it against?
[15:39] <agateau> Riddell: I updated it to apply to 2.3.1
[15:40] <agateau> Riddell: on the topic of Amarok packaging, I noticed the latest bzr packaging branch drops the gnome limited sni patch
[15:40] <agateau> Riddell: it shouldn't be dropped
[15:40] <agateau> Riddell: gnome is still limited :)
[15:40] <debfx> agateau: are you sure that it's still needed?
[15:41] <NCommander> Riddell: ScottK: First kubuntu-mobile image successfully spun in debug mode. I'm checking to makesure it makes sense
[15:41] <agateau> debfx: unless it has been upstreamed, it is needed yes
[15:41]  * agateau checks if it has been upstreamed
[15:42] <agateau> debfx: not upstreamed, so still needed
[15:42] <Riddell> NCommander: ooh!
[15:42] <debfx> agateau: amarok always calls setIconByName(), isn't that enough?
[15:42] <agateau> debfx: oh
[15:42] <NCommander> /pool/universe/j/jackd2/libjack-jackd2-0_1.9.5~dfsg-19ubuntu1_i386.deb
[15:42] <NCommander> /pool/universe/k/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings_10.10.0ubuntu1_all.d$
[15:42] <agateau> debfx: I missed that
[15:42] <NCommander> /pool/universe/libc/libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl/libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl_1.3-9_all.deb
[15:42] <NCommander> /pool/universe/p/plasma-mobile/plasma-mobile_0.0~svn20100802-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[15:42] <NCommander> WOO
[15:43] <NCommander> It pulled in the universe packages
[15:43] <agateau> debfx: it should be ok then, does it also avoid using overlays?
[15:43] <ScottK> Perfect.
[15:43] <agateau> debfx: although that one is less of a problem
[15:43] <NCommander> tasks fixed itself
[15:43] <NCommander> ScottK: are you interested inboth live and alternate, or just live
[15:44] <NCommander> the live images thingy just got fixed so I should be able to spin live instead
[15:44] <debfx> agateau: it still uses overlays
[15:44] <agateau> debfx: yes, just checked, but that's not a problem actually
[15:44] <ScottK> NCommander: I'm not 100% sure.  I think just live, but ian_brasil or rbelem would be the ones to ask.
[15:44] <NCommander> ScottK: I'll enable alternates for now. If there's no point, we can kill them
[15:44] <ScottK> NCommander: Can you join #kubuntu-mobile?
[15:44] <agateau> Riddell: ignore what I said about the gnome limited sni patch, it's not needed anymore (thx to debfx)
[15:45]  * Riddell ignores
[15:46] <Riddell> didn't we already have an mpris patch for amarok?
[15:46] <apachelogger> hm
[15:47] <apachelogger> another bug? somehow I get the feeling kassistantdialog/kpagedialog are not used to their full extend of capabilities
[15:47] <Riddell> didn't dantti_work find the same thing with anotherh kfoodialog class?
[15:47] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[15:47] <apachelogger> there are way too many dialog classes anyway
[15:48] <apachelogger> 15 dialog classes but no proper busy widget
[15:48] <apachelogger> other than qprogressbar
[15:48] <dantti_work> Riddell: sorry what is the problem?
[15:49] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: KPixmapSequenceWidget
[15:50] <JontheEchidna> using the "process-working" xdg animation
[15:50] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484000/
[15:50] <JontheEchidna> ^show() when busy
[15:52] <apachelogger> goodness
[15:52] <apachelogger> not that hot
[15:52] <apachelogger> but working
[15:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: thanks
[15:53] <apachelogger> *hug*
[15:53] <JontheEchidna> :)
[15:53] <apachelogger> leaves me with kassitantdialog eating widgets
[15:54]  * apachelogger needs to poke around what part fails but apparently something does not work properly with nesting
[15:54] <apachelogger> in pagedialog you can have multiple pages and each page can have subpages, subpages can have subpages... now something falls over if you add 2 subpages to one regular page, it will render the most recently added widget for all subpages
[15:55] <apachelogger> (the tree widget I showed earlier does however display the right widget's title...)
[15:55] <apachelogger> anyhow
[15:55] <apachelogger> ->supper
[16:00] <ScottK> debfx: Are you available for some bug fixing?
[16:03] <Mamarok> apachelogger: I know I am late, but 004, the choice is obvious
[16:05] <debfx> ScottK: I'm working on digikam right now
[16:05] <ScottK> debfx: When you have some spare bandwidth I could use some help.
[16:11] <debfx> apachelogger: is there a way I can test whether pkg-kde-tools generates the desktop .pot file?
[16:13] <debfx> hm I'll just check if the file exists
[16:14] <Riddell> you have to edit /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu-debhelper-langpack-generate.sh and /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu-debhelper-langpack-clean.sh to remove the tests at the top
[16:14] <Riddell> also a good idea to install pkgbinarymangler and enable it
[16:21] <debfx> Riddell: digikam copys the desktop .pot to *imageplugins.pot
[16:21] <debfx> which fails for non official archive builds
[16:21] <Riddell> whyever would it do that?
[16:24] <debfx> * In debian/rules add KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT and common-install-prehook-impl
[16:24] <debfx>     to copy desktop translations template file to imageplugins too
[16:24] <debfx> Riddell: you added that
[16:26] <Riddell> ug, whyever would I do that
[16:26]  * ScottK hands Riddell a mirror for consultations.
[16:27] <Riddell> dantti_work: some paperwork.  are blocked updates hidden?  are icons for installed apps shown?  are updates selected by default?
[16:28] <Riddell> rbelem: paperwork, am I right in thinking a working samba share UI is unlikely in the next week or two?
[16:29] <Riddell> ryanakca: did you find those kde pim 3.5 packages?
[16:29] <rbelem> Riddell, in two i think it will be ok
[16:29] <rbelem> :-)
[16:29] <rbelem> now i will focus to get that patch approved
[16:30] <apachelogger> debfx: you just need to create a /CurrentlyBuilding file as documented in the l10n readme in pkg-kde-tools
[16:30] <rbelem> and finish the UI will be a matter of few days
[16:31] <Riddell> ScottK: "package Plasma mobile and associated changes to kwin etc" and "set up seed and build images" ok for DONE?
[16:31] <ScottK> Riddell: First part yes.  Second part is INPROGRESS, but should be done today.
[16:31] <rbelem> :-D
[16:32] <debfx> ScottK: so what bug do you want to get fixed?
[16:32] <ScottK> debfx: It's kdeedu FTBFS on armel.
[16:34] <ScottK> debfx: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54413165/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdeedu_4:4.5.0b-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:35] <Riddell> kdeedu is doing fine on arm
[16:35] <ScottK> debfx: It needs to have a cast in there somewhere because qreal !=double on armel
[16:35] <ScottK> Riddell: It will fail.
[16:35] <Riddell> why do you say that?
[16:35] <mgraesslin> do you have arm packages for 4.5?
[16:35] <ScottK> Since it failed yesterday due to qreal != double problem
[16:35] <Riddell> ScottK: I wrote a patch
[16:35] <ScottK> mgraesslin: For most of it.
[16:35] <CIA-71> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1168410 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Bump version for 1.0.1 release
[16:36] <ScottK> Riddell: You did?
[16:36] <ScottK> debfx: Maybe Riddell is ahead of me.
[16:36] <mgraesslin> that could make my life for kwin on meamo way easier :-)
[16:36] <Riddell> due to bad version numbering it's not in the -0ubuntu3 changelog entry it's in the -0ubuntu2 entry
[16:37] <Riddell> but I'm pretty sure it'll compile
[16:37] <Riddell> remind me to send it upstream when it does
[16:37] <ScottK> OK.
[16:37] <ScottK> debfx: Nevermind.  Riddell got it already.
[16:37] <CIA-71> [muon] jmthomas * 1168411 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/src/main.cpp Bump version for 1.0.1 release
[16:37] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  I was looking at the changelogs and thought it needed doing still.
[16:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: "ensure failsafe X works with KDM" did you get anywhere with that?
[16:38] <ScottK> mgraesslin: So far we have everything except kdeedu and kdeplasma-addons built.
[16:38] <mgraesslin> that's great
[16:38] <Riddell> with any luck we'll have images for beta
[16:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: I havea kdialog portation ready but did not find the motivation to look into the gdm specific junk
[16:38] <Riddell> no hardware to test them on of course but that's a detail
[16:39] <mgraesslin> I will try to install the packages in scratchbox
[16:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: do you have a patch or branch somewhere so it doesn't get lost?
[16:39] <apachelogger> actually the code was so ugly it caused me to rant on identica
[16:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: I can upload a branch
[16:39] <apachelogger> probably most findable
[16:39] <mgraesslin> at least I am glad that there are no double/float/qreal issues in kwin
[16:39] <ScottK> How much ranting can happen in 140 characters?
[16:39] <Riddell> mgraesslin: what's scratchbox?
[16:39] <apachelogger> oh!
[16:39] <apachelogger> turns out kassistantdialog did everything right
[16:40] <mgraesslin> Riddell: an environment to test ARM stuff
[16:40] <apachelogger> I did write a crutial line in the wrong function :\
[16:40] <mgraesslin> used by maemo
[16:40] <ScottK> Riddell: How's our installer doing?
[16:41] <Riddell> ScottK: ev was up until 6 this morning fixing it, fix is committed
[16:41] <Riddell> I haven't been able to test it yet though, my virtual machine is busy on lucid upgrades and apparantly two virtual machines at once kills my laptop
[16:42] <ScottK> So if we get a kubuntu-mobile live image here shortly, it's not actually going to work until after the installer stuff lands, right?
[16:42] <Riddell> it'll boot into a live system fine
[16:42] <ScottK> OK.
[16:42] <Riddell> just the install won't complete in any useful way
[16:44] <sheytan> With this all devs from all over the world will join kubuntu development team: http://a.imageshack.us/img828/7619/devr.png ]:->
[16:45] <sheytan> Remember that the text isn't done yet :D
[16:47] <Riddell> sheytan: microbloggosphere had a comment about the current kubuntu website which I agree with, we should mention Linux and KDE on the front page http://identi.ca/ivancukic
[16:47] <sheytan> Riddell just a sec ;)
[16:48] <Tm_T> I heavily agree too
[16:48] <sheytan> Riddell http://a.imageshack.us/img841/8946/aboutt.jpg
[16:49] <sheytan> this is about page
[16:49] <Tm_T> we are Linux with KDE afterall
[16:49] <sheytan> and on the home page we will have a nice slideshow that will change every reload :)
[16:49] <sheytan> there will be about KDE too :)
[16:50] <Riddell> sheytan: nice.  put Core technologies above Canonical I think
[16:50] <sheytan> Riddell sure ;)
[16:50] <sheytan> I'll tell ofirk about this :)
[16:50] <Riddell> sheytan: have you thought about applying for sponsorship to UDS?
[16:51] <sheytan> Riddell what's this? :D
[16:52] <Riddell> sheytan: spend a week of your life discussing ubuntu things http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/08/23/11-04-ubuntu-developer-summit-announced/
[16:52] <sheytan> Riddell i don't think i'll have time :( Work :(
[16:52] <sheytan> Maybe next year :)
[16:53] <Riddell> ScottK: doesn't seem like I'll be able to test ubiquity, I need to leave in a while and won't be back until monday afternoon
[16:53] <ScottK> Urk.
[16:53] <ScottK> ENOTIME for me either.
[16:54] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Can you test it?
[16:55] <sheytan> ScottK how does that test look like? Maybe i can help? :)
[16:55] <Riddell> you need to be able to compile it, load up a virtual machine, install the new build, and run it
[16:55] <Riddell> actually I can supply i386 .debs
[16:55] <sheytan> Ive got maveric on my virtualbox, can be?
[16:56] <Riddell> sheytan: got a recent live CD on virtualbox?
[16:56] <sheytan> Not quite, it's an alpha 3 with some updates i guess
[16:57] <Riddell> you should probably download a daily live desktop CD
[16:57] <sheytan> this will take about an hour for me
[16:58] <Riddell> that's fine
[16:58] <sheytan> ok, link? :)
[16:58] <Riddell> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20100826/
[16:58] <Riddell> grab "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD"
[16:58] <Riddell> boot that up in virtualbox
[16:59] <Riddell> wget these .debs  http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/ubiquity/
[16:59] <Riddell> (ignore the gtk and mythbuntu ones)
[16:59] <Riddell> ignore the udeb too I guess
[16:59] <Riddell> dpkg --install *deb
[16:59] <Riddell> assuming they install run   ubiquity kde_ui
[16:59] <Riddell> and install it
[16:59] <Riddell> if it installs and runs, yay
[17:00] <sheytan> Riddell, ok :)
[17:00] <sheytan> what's new? :D
[17:00] <Riddell> else probably ScottK can tell you how to help debug
[17:00] <sheytan> ok
[17:00] <Riddell> sheytan: the installer starts installing after the first step
[17:01] <sheytan> Riddell it's a feature, right? :D
[17:01] <ryanakca> Riddell: I haven't looked yet. My last day at work is tomorrow, it's on my TODO list for this weekend / next week if that isn't too late...
[17:01] <sheytan> no more user creating, time and date, etc?
[17:02] <Riddell> ryanakca: oh yes I forgot the timing, that's fine
[17:02] <Riddell> sheytan: install starts going then you do the user creating, time and date, etc while it is already installing
[17:03] <sheytan> Riddell oh yeah, this is already in ubuntu. I saw that :D First time i was wondering WTF ;D
[17:05] <Riddell> hmm, I fear my virtual machine is bust http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/lucid-upgrade.jpeg
[17:05] <Riddell> so much for VM snapshots
[17:06] <sheytan> Riddell ive downloaded 8pkgs from that list. Is that ok?
[17:06] <Riddell> sheytan: which list?
[17:06] <sheytan> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/ubiquity/
[17:06] <Riddell> yes, 8
[17:06] <sheytan> ok ;)
[17:07] <sheytan> btw: why the upgrading tool isn't oxygened? :D
[17:07] <sheytan> is it qt3 or something?
[17:08] <Riddell> is bug 600646
[17:10] <Riddell> which should be fixed with the new Qt build which isn't on that CD
[17:10] <sheytan> Riddell i meant this one: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/lucid-upgrade.jpeg It's using plastic style instead of oxygen.
[17:11] <Riddell> sheytan: same thing
[17:11] <sheytan> Riddell ok ;)
[17:11] <Riddell> needs the KDE plugin path in its config
[17:12]  * Riddell wonders about the wisdom of visiting florida in October http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/8bc086fdd84f3e459bee6ee7a08644cd.png
[17:12] <Riddell> ok I'm out, back later for a bit, good luck
[17:13] <sheytan> Thank you :)
[17:13] <sheytan> bye ;)
[17:15] <apachelogger> @_@
[17:15] <apachelogger> my eyes hurt!!!!
[17:15]  * apachelogger did too much coding
[17:15] <sheytan> apachelogger use the eyes plasmoid :D
[17:17]  * apachelogger calls on isPasswordValid and wonders why it says no
[17:17] <Tm_T> agateau: I added you to auto-accept list for kopete-devel list (:
[17:18] <agateau> Tm_T: thanks :)
[17:18] <agateau> Tm_T: actually I am subscribed to the list, but with my @canonical address
[17:18] <agateau> Tm_T: which is not the one I use on reviewboard.kde.org
[17:18] <Tm_T> I suspected as much, that's why I didn't come and poke you to subscribe (:
[17:22] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/Errror.h remove bogus file
[17:22] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/CMakeLists.txt Add .h-only foo to cmakelists so it shows up in qt creator's project
[17:25] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/PasswordHelper.h s/widget/label
[17:30] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (EmailHelper.h CMakeLists.txt RegisterWidget.cpp) Add emailhelper
[17:38] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (4 files) use emailhelper in requester widget and make requestability dependent on presence of valid email addy
[17:57] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (Dialog.cpp EmailHelper.h RegisterWidget.cpp RegisterWidget.h) sort of rewrite register widget
[18:07] <debfx> are we already in beta freeze?
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> hope not; I just uploaded a package to main
[18:13] <apachelogger> you will see when one of the release team overlords comes and shouts at you
[18:13]  * ScottK clears his throat.
[18:13] <ScottK> Not yet, but it's close.
[18:20] <debfx> you upgraded yourself to apache2?
[18:23] <sheytan> ScottK i downloaded the daily build of kubuntu, but when i  click 'try kubuntu' after ksplash i see black screen only :(
[18:25] <ScottK> sheytan: What architecture and what video?
[18:28] <sheytan> ScottK  nvidia, i386
[18:28] <ScottK> Hmmm.  Not sure what the status of Nvidia is right now.
[18:29] <dantti_work> Riddell: some paperwork.  are blocked updates hidden? YES. are icons for installed apps shown? YES.  are updates selected by default? YES but only when the user clicks on the systray icon.
[18:30] <ScottK> sheytan: Let's join #ubuntu-installer and see if we can get help there.
[18:30] <sheytan> ScottK but my maveric updated today woeks
[18:30] <ScottK> OK
[18:32] <sheytan> ScottK please you ask, I don't know what should i say in this case ;D
[18:32] <ScottK> OK.
[18:33] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (RegisterWidget.cpp RegisterWidget.ui) busywidget
[18:35] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (4 files) add widget to show while waiting for replies from service
[18:37] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/CMakeLists.txt forgot the ui
[18:37] <ScottK> sheytan: Which VT is the black screen on?
[18:38] <apache2logger> actually
[18:38]  * apache2logger thinks that a intermediate widget is completely ugly
[18:39]  * apache2logger looks into overlay
[18:39] <ScottK> sheytan: You need to answer that.
[18:47] <sheytan> ScottK http://pastebin.com/Zf0r7gdj
[18:49] <ScottK> sheytan: Can you install them manually?
[18:55] <sheytan> ScottK  http://pastebin.com/SibUVBuV   http://pastebin.com/tp3j0Edq
[18:55] <sheytan> those two outputs errors
[18:55] <sheytan> the rest is fine
[19:01] <ScottK> Looking
[19:04] <ScottK> sheytan: What if you do "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[19:05] <sheytan> ScottK http://pastebin.com/H14F6kn
[19:06] <ScottK> Thanks.
[19:06] <sheytan> welcome :) should i install it, ScottK ?
[19:07] <ScottK> I get unknown paste ID error
[19:07] <ScottK> Please paste it again.
[19:07] <sheytan> sec
[19:07] <sheytan> http://pastebin.com/JH14F6kn
[19:07] <sheytan> should be fine now :)
[19:08] <ScottK> sheytan: Yes.
[19:08] <sheytan> ScottK installing
[19:09] <sheytan> ScottK and now should i try those that had errors?
[19:09] <ScottK> They should be installed now, shouldn't they?
[19:09] <ScottK> If not, yes.
[19:11] <sheytan> ScottK http://pastebin.com/eP2fGCqd
[19:12] <ScottK> But it doesn't start?
[19:12] <sheytan> ScottK it doesn't :(
[19:13] <ScottK> I think we need a KDE developer now.
[19:13] <ScottK> dantti_work: Around?
[19:13] <sheytan> ScottK please ask someone :)
[19:13] <dantti_work> yup
[19:13] <sheytan> that was fast :D
[19:13] <dantti_work> I was looking at the channel :P
[19:13] <ScottK> dantti_work: We're trying to test out the newest version of the Ubiquity installer and it doesn't start.
[19:13] <ScottK> see sheytan's last pastebin.
[19:14] <ScottK> Any idea what that could be about?
[19:14] <dantti_work> trying to find some inspiration to start coding :P
[19:14]  * dantti_work looks
[19:14] <sheytan> dantti_work get a coffee. Helps when i start gimping :D
[19:14] <dantti_work> dumb question, do you have a lo interface?
[19:15]  * dantti_work doesn't like coffee :P
[19:15] <sheytan> network one?
[19:15] <sheytan> then get a beer ;D
[19:15] <dantti_work> yup
[19:15] <sheytan> i do
[19:15] <sheytan> it's a virtual machine
[19:15] <apache2logger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/010.png
[19:15] <dantti_work> hmm well I'd need to try the code them
[19:15] <apache2logger> akonadi-like busy widget
[19:16] <apache2logger> what do we think?
[19:16] <dantti_work> sometimes if you don't have 'lo' I think sockets do not work
[19:16] <sheytan> apache2logger without that dark effect ok :)
[19:16] <sheytan> dantti_work any tmp hack for that? :D
[19:17] <apache2logger> the dark effect is there because it lays on top of the regular UI
[19:17] <apache2logger> to block it
[19:17] <apache2logger> since it is doing stuff right now
[19:17] <sheytan> you can make the fields unavailabe to put stuff into them instead
[19:17] <dantti_work> sheytan: well I don't know how this app works so inly testing ...
[19:17] <dantti_work> *only
[19:18] <dantti_work> sheytan: are you ssh to it?
[19:18] <apache2logger> sheytan: that does however not indicate progress
[19:18] <sheytan> dantti_work to the virtual machine?
[19:18] <dantti_work> yup
[19:18] <superfly> apache2logger: I would just disable the rest of the widgets
[19:18] <sheytan> no, kubuntu by default has only the cliient, and it's running from a live cd
[19:18] <apache2logger> superfly: how do you indicate that something is going on then?
[19:19] <sheytan> but why do i need ssh here?
[19:19] <dantti_work> cause it could have something to do with you not having dbus-session...
[19:19] <sheytan> apache2logger the progress bar is for that :P
[19:19] <superfly> apache2logger: sorry, wasn't being clear... with the progress bar, like you have it
[19:19] <apache2logger> where do you put the progressbar
[19:19] <superfly> pretty much where it is now
[19:19] <sheytan> it's already there
[19:19] <sheytan> yep
[19:19] <apache2logger> mind that this needs to appear for every widget in the dialog
[19:20] <dantti_work> sheytan: sorry no clue, who maintains that app?
[19:20] <apache2logger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/011.png
[19:20] <apache2logger> and where do you put it here?
[19:20] <sheytan> dantti_work ask ScottK
[19:20] <ScottK> dantti_work: It's Riddell mostly, but he's offline.
[19:21] <sheytan> apache2logger oh, that way it's fine as it is :D
[19:21] <superfly> apache2logger: somewhere :-P
[19:21] <sheytan> no, this will make the UI cluttered
[19:21] <sheytan> it's a bit already :D
[19:21] <superfly> but I get your point
[19:21] <apache2logger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/012.png
[19:21] <apache2logger> without background
[19:21] <dantti_work> sheytan: I guess it's better to ask him, and as I am at work I don't have a kubuntu to test here :/
[19:22] <apache2logger> the idea is to have one widget that gets used throughout the dialog to indicate that it is waiting for something to happen
[19:22] <sheytan> dantti_work ScottK so we stuck without testing the new installer :(
[19:23] <ScottK> dantti_work: Do you have one with a maverick VM you could help us out with later?
[19:23] <dantti_work> sheytan: that is the new kubuntu installer?
[19:23] <apache2logger> Nightrose: what do you think about it? http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/010.png
[19:23] <ScottK> dantti_work: It is.
[19:23] <sheytan> apache2logger then as i said, imho it's fine now :)
[19:23] <sheytan> dantti_work yep
[19:23] <dantti_work> ScottK: hmm now I'm more interested :P since I had some stuff I'd like it to be fixed :P
[19:24] <ScottK> Great.
[19:24] <dantti_work> sheytan: where do I get this cd?
[19:24] <dantti_work> kubuntu.org?
[19:24] <sheytan> just a sec
[19:24] <ScottK> dantti_work: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/ubiquity/
[19:24] <sheytan> yep
[19:24] <ScottK> Ignore the gtk and mybuntu ones there.
[19:24] <sheytan> and get the i386 one
[19:24] <sheytan> couse the Riddell's packages are 32bit only
[19:24] <superfly> apache2logger: what about extending the dialog down a little, and sticking it just above the buttons? are those buttons per page, or used throughout the app?
[19:25] <apache2logger> the buttons are used throughout the app
[19:26] <superfly> yeah, possibly put the progress bar just above the buttons
[19:26] <superfly> it's a bit more in line with what most other apps do
[19:26] <superfly> unless you want to do the akonadi thing, and pop up a borderless window with just the progress bar on it :-P
[19:26] <apache2logger> superfly: what apps do that?
[19:27] <dantti_work> ScottK: can I install that packages in lucid? I don't have a kubuntu on any VM (only an old ubuntu with net install)
[19:27] <superfly> apache2logger: I don't think any do that specifically, but I don't really see many apps that darken the whole app and put a progress bar floating in the middle
[19:27] <ScottK> dantti_work: No.  Not really.
[19:27] <Nightrose> apache2logger: yea not bad imho
[19:28] <apache2logger> superfly: that is because most apps do not have possibly long waiting times
[19:28] <dantti_work> ScottK: should I install maverick then?
[19:28] <apache2logger> while the progress bar is up a backend is talking to a web server
[19:28] <ScottK> dantti_work: Yes, but you really want to do this kind of testing in a VM.
[19:28] <apache2logger> so that could take a minute or two
[19:29] <apache2logger> and by completely locking the user out it ought to be more apparent
[19:29] <dantti_work> ScottK: right, but what I'm saying is that I don't have one :P so which would be best?
[19:29] <dantti_work> I have to download kubuntu's cds..
[19:30] <superfly> apache2logger: ok, since you're doing an overlay, why don't you give the progress bar a little borderless window to live on... I think that makes more sense than just a progress bar in the middle of nothing
[19:30] <ScottK> dantti_work: Then make one using the Alpha 3 maverick ISO.
[19:30] <dantti_work> k, thanks
[19:30] <sheytan> ScottK when i'm in console mode and X are shutted down, can i start ubiquity somehow?
[19:30] <sheytan> i mean, that it automaticalli turn on
[19:30] <sheytan> X
[19:30] <apache2logger> superfly: it is not in the middle of nothing, it is ontop of the part of the window that changes once the overlay goes away
[19:30] <ScottK> sheytan: I think there's a way, but it's non-trivial and I don't know it.
[19:31] <superfly> apache2logger: to you, yes, to the user...?
[19:31] <apache2logger> superfly: what you mean is a dialog, which is a bad idea -> see kpackagekit in lucid
[19:31] <sheytan> ScottK well, the we need to wait until Riddell comes back
[19:31] <superfly> apache2logger: yeah, kpackagekit annoys me
[19:31] <sheytan> :/
[19:31] <apache2logger> superfly: see, and yet you propose that I do the same to this dialog :P
[19:31] <ScottK> sheytan: Or dantti_work get's his maverick VM set up.
[19:31] <superfly> apache2logger: well, I'm more talking a psuedo dialog
[19:31] <superfly> *pseudo
[19:32] <superfly> apache2logger: I don't know, really, I'm just trying to see if there's a more user-intuitive way of displaying it, that's all
[19:33]  * sheytan goes make some food, brb
[19:33] <apache2logger> superfly: the other option would be to insert a loading page between dialog pages
[19:33] <apache2logger> which is really not much different
[19:33] <superfly> yeah, not a good idea, imho
[19:35] <dantti_work> ScottK: while it downloads (*10minutes left), is it better to install kubuntu on the vm or just test it on the live cd?
[19:35] <ScottK> dantti_work: We'll need an install test, so vm
[19:36] <dantti_work> k
[19:39]  * apache2logger tunes in 'in the mood' and asks Nightrose if she wants to dance
[19:39] <Nightrose> always
[19:39]  * apache2logger swings with Nightrose ^^
[19:43] <apache2logger> Nightrose: thanks for this wonderful dance :*
[19:44] <Nightrose> :*
[19:49] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (9 files) make the processing into a busy overlay and borrow some code from akonadi ;)
[19:52] <ScottK> ev just uploaded ubiquity, so we should have pacakges in the archive shortly.
[20:01] <dantti_work> ScottK: should I download them all except debconf and gtk ones?
[20:01] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (6 files) add a success page
[20:02] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/SuccessWidget.h no explicit ctor kthxbai
[20:04] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (SuccessWidget.cpp SuccessWidget.h) setter and getter for the success message
[20:07] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (Dialog.cpp SuccessWidget.cpp SuccessWidget.h) set default success message from infoset via ctor
[20:12] <dantti_work> ScottK: I have the same problem though I didn't installed oem-config(check and udeb)
[20:13] <ScottK> dantti_work: OK.  Let's wait for an actual ISO with the new installer and see.
[20:14] <ScottK> Riddell wins.  kdeedu got through all the compiling bits now.  Almost there (knocks wood)
[20:14] <JontheEchidna> !find KPixmapSequenceWidget lucid
[20:14] <JontheEchidna> :/
[20:14] <JontheEchidna> !find KPixmapSequenceWidget maverick
[20:15] <JontheEchidna> those API docs lie!
[20:15] <apache2logger> liars
[20:15] <apache2logger> JontheEchidna: my akonadi widget is better anyway :P
[20:16] <JontheEchidna> !find kpixmapsequencewidget.h
[20:16] <JontheEchidna> !find kpixmapsequencewidget.h lucid
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> !find kpixmapsequencewidget.h lucid
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> bla
[20:17] <apache2logger> JontheEchidna is the liar coz he called the apidox a liar :P
[20:18]  * apache2logger should have looked at the sso dbus interface in detail before hacking away since things seem to be a lot less objecty as they seem
[20:18] <dantti_work> ScottK: I believe it's not working because of these missing deps
[20:18] <ScottK> sheytan had installed the deps though.
[20:19] <ScottK> We'll know shortly.
[20:19] <dantti_work> :/
[20:25] <JontheEchidna> !find KPixmapSequence lucid
[20:28]  * apache2logger uses his kickass recordmydesktop ui to record a video :P
[20:32] <JontheEchidna> *sigh* http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1124100
[20:32] <JontheEchidna> at least it's fixed now
[20:34] <apache2logger> :)
[20:34] <CIA-71> [muon] jmthomas * 1168504 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp Apparently the CamelCase header for KPixmapSequenceWidget wasn't around in 4.4... :(
[20:34] <apache2logger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/sso-client-kde.ogv
[20:55] <ScottK> In the next several hours we should have ISOs with the updated installer to test.
[20:55] <ScottK> ev is going to drop in and let people know when they are available.
[20:56] <ScottK> dantti_work and anyone else, it's important we get the installer changes smoke tested ASAP.
[20:58] <apache2logger> Nightrose: can I please get cheers, I am depressed because of the uglyness of the code I am producing here
[20:58] <Nightrose> awwwwww
[20:58]  * Nightrose huggls apache2logger
[20:58] <apache2logger> \o/
[20:59]  * apache2logger continues messing with them signals
[20:59] <JontheEchidna> apache2logger: http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/u/unicorn-1846.jpg
[20:59] <JontheEchidna> (Not that I am nightrose, but extra cheer can't hurt) :P
[20:59] <JontheEchidna> g2g
[20:59]  * apache2logger prints and sticks that on the wall next to fluffy heart
[20:59] <apache2logger> JontheEchidna: thx
[21:20] <ScottK> Riddell and NCommander: Win on kdeedul on armel.
[21:20] <sheytan> Goooood night :)
[21:42] <CIA-71> [ubuntu-sso-client-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (10 files) progressing implemented via dbus signals (completely, or so I hope)
[21:44]  * apache2logger is feeling all dizzy
[21:47] <apache2logger> Riddell: I think I have the gui ready tomorrow ... if you could do kwallet support we can probably hope for ubuntuone-kde in maverick
[21:48]  * apache2logger notes that dirty gui-only programming is a lot quicker than sane library programming ^^
[21:49] <Riddell> ScottK: rock, did you retry kdeplasma-addons?
[21:50] <ScottK> Riddell: I did.
[21:50] <Riddell> apache2logger: I'm away until monday I'm afraid
[21:50] <Riddell> so daily CD not working?
[21:50] <apache2logger> who here has signed the canonical contributor agreement and wants to do kwallet enablement in ubuntu-sso-client?
[21:51] <ScottK> Riddell: Ubiquity is in the queue to be approved.  Care to take a stab at it.
[21:51] <ScottK> (we're frozen now)
[21:57] <Riddell> daily CD working good for me
[21:57] <Riddell> let's install the new build
[21:58] <Riddell> hum, crash
[23:56] <dequire_> apache2logger: That's great news if ubuntuone-kde is indeed ready to roll in Maverick. If you need a hand with anything non-programming, let me know!