[05:29] <rukuartic> kaChr: Right now go find a torrent, and copy the url
[05:29] <momal> shiznit: what stuff is it getting ? just throw a few names over here :P
[05:30] <kaChr> ok
[05:30] <rukuartic> kaChr: while you're at it, lets log out of that screen session
[05:30] <b3nne> Does anyone know how to fix a graficdriver properly to a P4M900 chipset?
[05:30] <trimmer> hmmm..... newer safer openssl...
[05:30] <rukuartic> kaChr: close nano (ctrl+x) and logout of both terminals (ctrl+d or 'logout')
[05:30] <Naas> !share
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <shiznit> momal, lib sutff
[05:30] <Naas> share!
[05:30] <kaChr> rukuartic: ok i quit the screen and got the url
[05:31] <rukuartic> kaChr: then type "wget <url to torrent here>"
[05:31] <kaChr> ok
[05:31] <rukuartic> kaChr: wget is a sweet little program to download things given a URL
[05:31] <Naas> any information about sharing a drive/folder over the network!
[05:31] <momal> shiznit: it might just be getting stuff for the compiling and that... you might have had the stuff before already :p
[05:31] <Naas> how do i share a folder
[05:31] <shiznit> momal, "there was an error in the process, you can see the log.....
[05:31] <rukuartic> !samba | Naas
[05:31] <ubotu> Naas: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Naas,  you mean share with a windows machien correct?
[05:31] <kaChr> rukuartic: yea i know, i got the torrent how do i run it
[05:31] <Naas> yes
[05:32] <rukuartic> kaChr: type screen again (so we don't have to restart)
[05:32] <Naas> Dr_willis
[05:32] <kaChr> ok
[05:32] <rukuartic> kaChr: and then type 'rtorrent <name of file>'
[05:32] <Naas> Rukuartic: Samba is already built-in, or am i wrong
[05:32] <shiznit> momal, could you check the error log?
[05:32] <rukuartic> kaChr: protip: if you hit the tab key, it'll finish typing the name
[05:32] <rukuartic> Naas: You're right.
[05:32] <Roge> wow
[05:32] <rukuartic> Naas: But I have no experience running Samba
[05:33] <momal> shiznit: if you can find where it put the error log lol
[05:33] <shiznit> momal, wtf is still asked me to cofigure x and restart
[05:33] <baabaablacksheep> anyone, i've a ibm x31 laptop, how do i enable the middle button? it's now acting as a left click.
[05:33] <momal> LOL
[05:33] <shiznit> momal, yea i found it but it rebooted me lol
[05:33] <Roge> i done a lamp install of ubuntu server and showhow, during my adding and removing the web and database server got removed
[05:33] <cdm10> I've got two volume controls here, Master and Headphone, and I don't remember how to combine them both into Master. I remember that the command had to do with modprobe and ac97, but that's it.
[05:33] <momal> lets see if it boots lol
[05:33] <jrib> !guidelines > pigcum (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:33] <oxeimo2> why can't I use applications with a GUI on the computer I'm ssh'ing to?
[05:33] <rukuartic> shiznit: No idea. Try googling "linux ibm x31 laptop mouse" or something, chances are some person with the same laptop as you had the same problem and posted the answer on the itnernet
[05:33] <shiznit> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$444
[05:34] <rukuartic> shiznit: wrong user sorry
[05:34] <shiznit> NVIDIA LOGO
[05:34] <Roge> is there a package name to get lamp back ?
[05:34] <attunix> oxeimo2: you can
[05:34] <Naas> Dr_willis= any ideas about sharing files with windows
[05:34] <rukuartic> baabaablacksheep: No idea.  We can read lowercase too.
[05:34] <shiznit> i sorry
[05:34] <shiznit> so happy
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Naas,  i am fully versed and read on using samba. :) thers whole books on the topic.
[05:34] <rukuartic> shiznit: haha
[05:34] <oxeimo2> attunix: how?
[05:34] <attunix> oxeimo2: Instead of ssh through command line, go to Places>Connect to Server :)
[05:34] <oxeimo2> for example, when I type in matlab, it says: "Warning: Unable to open display, MATLAB is starting without a display"...
[05:35] <momal> lol erUSUL caps your name... but i think caps were necassary since its been like 5 hours and finally he got the nvidia logo lol
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Naas,  install the samba package,   install the samba-doc, and read the html books included. thers also a lot of samba config tools out. But  i never use them.. since i read the books. :)
[05:35] <rukuartic> oxeimo2: try "ssh -X user@host"
[05:35] <rukuartic> oxeimo2: If you're runing linux in both locations
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Naas,  i though gnome had a 'share folder' featre that also enabled the samba stuff for you nice and simple.
[05:35] <Ashfire908> how do you show the main window in amarok
[05:35] <shiznit> momal, ty very much sir
[05:35] <shiznit> you still wanna see that log
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Naas,  for simple transfers o tend to use 'ssh' on linxu and 'winscp' on the windows box.
[05:35] <oxeimo2> oh wow that worked
[05:35] <oxeimo2> thanks
[05:35] <oxeimo2> :-D
[05:36] <idefix_> is there a clean up harddisk function in gaim? I mean.. a lot is logged which could very well be outdated already..
[05:36] <rukuartic> kaChr: Works?
[05:36] <momal> yeah upload it just so i can see if its bad error or not :p
[05:36] <rukuartic> kaChr: Whoop my problem
[05:36] <idefix_> I mean in linux
[05:36] <Naas> ok
[05:36] <rukuartic> kaChr: passkey? o-o
[05:36] <myconid> idefix_, rm works well for me
[05:36] <rukuartic> kaChr: Yeah, sometimes wget is funny
[05:36] <erUSUL> idefix_: npe; do it manually
[05:36] <rukuartic> kaChr: Like when you have a website that goes http://website/file.gz, but it really points you to a webpage which points you to the file
[05:36] <kaChr> yea ill try to download it to my pc then up it to the box
[05:37] <rukuartic> kaChr: protip #2 if a website does that, try "w3m <url to website>"
[05:37] <rukuartic> kaChr: w3m = text only version of firefox
[05:37] <kaChr> ok ill try it
[05:37] <baabaablacksheep> how do i open a terminal screen?
[05:37] <erUSUL> !cli | baabaablacksheep
[05:37] <ubotu> baabaablacksheep: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:38] <rukuartic> kaChr: Check the last thing from ubotu
[05:38] <rukuartic> kaChr: Might help you out
[05:38] <rukuartic> kaChr: btw you might need to install w3m too "apt-get install ..."
[05:38] <baabaablacksheep> is there any shortcuts?
[05:38] <Tomasu> does anyone know why upstart might be refusing connections from initctl and shutdown?
[05:38] <kaChr> yea im installing it now
[05:39] <b3nne> Can someone help me? I need to get the graficdriver for P4M900 to work and google doesn't know the answer :'(
[05:39] <rukuartic> baabaablacksheep: Shore, System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts (ctrl+alt+w works great fer me :D)
[05:39] <baabaablacksheep> !cli
[05:39] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:40] <rukuartic> baabaablacksheep: You can also "/msg ubotu cli" and it will help you out without spamming the room
[05:40] <RAdams> what's the typical size of a /tmp directory when the system is under heavy use a multimedia desktop?
[05:40] <rukuartic> RAdams: Thats a good question o_O
[05:40] <shiznit> now i need to figure out dual monitor
[05:41] <Veggie> You still here shiznit? Haha.
[05:41] <rukuartic> RAdams: Right now /tmp's only occupying 1 MB in my system... gimme a secon
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: ?.. damn, you're still at it?
[05:41] <shiznit> indy, i got the nvidia driver running
[05:41] <silvertip257> rukuartic:  no luck ... dunno what to do now - I'm even referring to ubuntuforum posts
[05:41] <Veggie> And hey Indy.
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: ok... open a terminal, and run sudo nvidia-settings to setup dual screens
[05:41] <rukuartic> RAdams: Its 167 on my web host
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: lol
[05:42] <RAdams> rukuartic: thanks, that's a good benchmark
[05:42] <kaChr> rukuartic: how do i close the torrent? bcuz i have to re run it
[05:42] <b3nne> please someone help me to get my graphic card to work
[05:42] <momal> after all that time... he ended up reinstalling ubuntu and using envy scripts lol
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: if it makes you feel better, i jogged 5mi and biked 5mi since i left, so you've ben at this a while..lol
[05:42] <murkyMurk> RAdams: /tmp is 148k here
[05:42] <ubuntuuser123> i have a problem with GParted
[05:42] <ubuntuuser123> i can't move partitions
[05:42] <shiznit> well at least I'm in now
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntuuser123: we aren't mind readers
[05:42] <rukuartic> kaChr: ctrl+c I think
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: indeed....
[05:42] <rukuartic> RAdams: gimme one more second, IK'm gonna check university too
[05:42] <Veggie> ubuntuuser123, you probably won't be able to. What are you trying to do?
[05:43] <baabaablacksheep> !partition
[05:43] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:43] <RAdams> rukuartic: ty
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: lmao
[05:43] <Ashfire908> !amarok
[05:43] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:43] <rukuartic> RAdams: University's taking 40 MB. but keep in mind these aren't media servers
[05:43] <kaChr> rukuartic: ctrl + c doesnt work
[05:43] <rukuartic> kaChr: Hum...
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> I downlloaded a free partition tool the other day, called PartedMagic, i like it better than Gparted, and it still formats in every filesystem I know of.
[05:43] <RAdams> rukuartic: I'll be doing video editing, so I'm giving it an ungodly 10 GB to cache lengthy hd video files D:
[05:43] <rukuartic> kaChr: q?
[05:44] <ubuntuuser123> Veggie: i'm trying to move a partition to a different location.it is currently in between two pieces of empty space
[05:44] <rukuartic> RAdams: Haha
[05:44] <baabaablacksheep> how do i look at the file structure of ubuntu? i'm trying to get an idea of where are my folders located
[05:44] <rukuartic> RAdams: Ok You might want to consider swap too
[05:44] <dennis__> i want to buy a new computer and i am not sure which graphiccard is best for linux, ati or linux ?
[05:44] <shiznit> indy, this nvidia cp is nice
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: yup....
[05:44] <dennis__> h nvidea..
[05:44] <RAdams> rukuartic: if that isn't enough, I'm going back to beta tapes. my swap will be 4 gb
[05:44] <rukuartic> dennis__: Its pick and choose
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: dual monitors is awesome, i love it.
[05:44] <kaChr> q doesnt work either
[05:44] <rukuartic> dennis__: Intel does a pretty good job IMO
[05:44] <grayhane> when trying to mount an Ipod, I get the following error mount_point cannot contain the following characters:
[05:44] <grayhane> newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually/)
[05:44] <Ashex> how do I add a command to execute as root on startup without prompting for password?
[05:44] <shiznit> lemme plug the crt back in
[05:44] <rukuartic> Ashex: look in /etc/sudoers
[05:44] <rukuartic> Ashex: You're looking for "nopasswd:"
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: the key thing is, especially if you're making system changes, is to run it with terminal and sudo, because it won't save changes if you don't.
[05:45] <rukuartic> zeff: Ask away :)
[05:45] <zeff> private or here?
[05:45] <shiznit> ok
[05:45] <rukuartic> right here
[05:45] <RAdams> ashex: I would also consider using apparmor or SELinux if you're doing that sort of thing :)
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: i think you're gonna have to restart, because xorg gets modified.
[05:45] <rukuartic> Ashex: Or if you want to run it on boot isntead of login look in /etc/rc.local
[05:45] <dennis__> rukuartic: intel onboard graphic?
[05:45] <rukuartic> dennis__: You'll have to look around :P I'm using an intel right now, no problems.
[05:45] <Ashex> hmm, okay
[05:45] <Ashex> I just want to have tpm run on startup
[05:46] <zeff> ok, i just installed 7.04, straight away its like every time i log in one time everythings ok, 2nd boot no network...same all it just wont work
[05:46] <shiznit> i did
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: ok.
[05:46] <Ashex> it requires access to nvram so it needs root privelages
[05:46] <shiznit> indy, can i run custom refresh rates
[05:46] <redheat> hi everyone
[05:46] <rukuartic> dennis__: Configured propperly on install and whatnot
[05:46] <redheat> just a quicky question
[05:46] <rukuartic> zeff: Networking's been shakey in my distro too, are you talking about wireless?
[05:46] <dennis__> k, thx
[05:46] <redheat> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10
[05:46] <zeff> nope, i got lan cable to 3com router, cable modem
[05:46] <RAdams> !gusty | redheat
[05:46] <ubotu> redheat: It is spelt !guTSy :)
[05:47] <zeff> i think wireless would be fine but i want it way it is
[05:47] <redheat> should I use the nvidia drivers that came with the distro, or should I use those providi
[05:47] <RAdams> >.>
[05:47] <redheat> sorry about that
[05:47] <RAdams> !info gusty | redheat
[05:47] <ubotu> redheat: Package gusty does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:47] <redheat> I meant gassy gebawn
[05:47] <redheat> lol
[05:47] <RAdams> wowz
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> whats H gonna be called?
[05:47] <rukuartic> zeff: Oh. Try... ..."sudo ifup ethX; sudo dhclient ethX"
[05:47] <redheat> roger that
[05:47] <rukuartic> zeff: if you know what that's doing...
[05:47] <RAdams> redheat: #ubuntu+1 is where you want to be
[05:47] <Veggie> shiznit: I want a dual monitor setup >_>
[05:47] <cdm10> I have a command to fix sound that I need to have run whenever I start the computer.  Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[05:51] <IndyGunFreak> danderson: you can download the alternate install CD
[05:51] <riddlebox> danderson, I think there is an alternative cd you can download
[05:51] <baabaablacksheep> how do i get ubuntu to auto detect my hardwares?
[05:51] <RAdams> rukartic, IndyGunFreak: you have 30 seconds to convince me that I'll be fine with a noat ext3 /home... I'm in gparted right now setting up a fresh install via LiveCD :) (remember this is a multimedia editing desktop)
[05:51] <baabaablacksheep> it's not detecting my wireless lan
[05:51] <silvertip257> rukuartic:  LUCK!  haha ... turns out after unblacklisting it, adding the module to /etc/modules and modprobing it, I needed to put an 'x' directly after my SSID name.
[05:51] <erUSUL> !wifi | baabaablacksheep
[05:51] <danderson> aha, cheers.
[05:51] <ubotu> baabaablacksheep: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:52] <Rainarrow> Hello guys, how do I share files between two Ubuntu box? I have a LAN up already
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> RAdams: sorry, i offer no convincing argument, i just really like ext3..lol
[05:52] <RAdams> lol
[05:52] <silvertip257> rukuartic:  so now my WPC11 v4 wifi 802.11b card works!!! ;)
[05:52] <kujo> I've been searching all day today. Is it possible to install linux to my external HDD, leaving my internal one alone?
[05:52] <Rainarrow> I know I could share files with a Windows box with Samba
[05:52] <baabaablacksheep> it's too cryptic.
[05:52] <pipegeek> Hmm... I'm trying to configure a pptp connection in network-manager-gnome.... I only want it to handle connections to a certain block of IP addresses, but when I tell it to do as much, it ends up being that those are the only connections that succeed and everything else is dropped.  WRYYYY?
[05:52] <whiskeytango> Kujo, how is it connected?
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> kujo: its difficult sometimes, but it can be done..
[05:52] <pipegeek> using feisty, btw
[05:52] <kujo> through a usb port
[05:52] <whiskeytango> Ah...
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> kujo: its also generally quite slow.
[05:53] <kujo> i see
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> kujo: is your pc capable of booting a USB device?
[05:53] <kujo> i was reading that something called sata is faster
[05:53] <kujo> IndyGuyFreak: yes
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> kujo: sata is an internal drive....
[05:53] <whiskeytango> Well fiesty wanted me to install to my 8gig thumb drive.. so i guess it is possible, but i would assume quite slow.
[05:53] <volantares> hi
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> kujo: and depending on the age of the drive, you may not have sata ports on your motherboard.
[05:53] <whiskeytango> Hello.
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> whiskeytango: ya, i takled a guy through it one time, he said it was pretty slow.
[05:53] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: there's somethink called eSATA ...
[05:54] <Rainarrow> Hey guys?
[05:54] <kujo> that's a good point
[05:54] <Veggie> Hey Rainarrow
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: hmm, i seem to recall that, but isn't that basically enhanced sata?
[05:54] <baabaablacksheep> one thing, how do i know if my wlan is already installed?
[05:54] <Rainarrow> Hi Veggie
[05:54] <kujo> My computer is relatively new. I think it came out within the last two years.
[05:54] <Rainarrow> Veggie, I am asking about how to share files between 2 ubuntu box
[05:54] <Veggie> !samba | Rainarrow
[05:54] <ubotu> Rainarrow: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> kujo: you *might* haev sata ports on your motherboards... thats right about the time sata started getting more traction
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> Rainarrow: have you considered email?
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[05:55] <Veggie> Indy: I'd be suprised if he's on a modern computer, and doesn;t have sata ports
[05:55] <kujo> oh, I didn't know that. Thank you for telling me.
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> external usb drive maybe?
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: certainly possible.. my PC is 2.5yrs old, and i don't have sata ports, but i built mine.
[05:55] <Rainarrow> ah, I means, did samba also works between 2 linux boxes? I know I could share files between a Linux box and a Windows one using samba
[05:55] <buzz-cp> Can anyone tell me why my laptop says its on battery power with the power plugged in, but the icon goes away (GNOME) when I unplug it (as if it thinks it's on AC power).  i.e. it's backwards
[05:56] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: exterior SATA (just put a sata port exterior to the box and use the supposed hotplug capabilities of the sata standar)
[05:56] <whiskeytango> I wish ubuntu had readyboost.
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, erUSUL bnever heard of that.
[05:56] <murkyMurk> Rainarrow: yes Samba operates between linux as well
[05:56] <Veggie> I meant > 1 year old, really.
[05:56] <Rainarrow> OK, thanks
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: he said his PC was 2yrs old, unless i misunderstood... oh well, he's gone now...lol
[05:56] <Veggie> gnome power management is buggy, iirc. Being fixed in Gutsy.
[05:57] <unimatrix9> hello all
[05:57] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: my mobo has two eSATA ports so belive me ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#External_SATA
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: i do, i do..lol
[05:57] <buzz-cp> Veggie: are you saying, not much I can do ATM?
[05:58] <unimatrix9> i am trying to watch ubuntu screen casts , with feisty , its in theora ogg format ( video ) but i cant open the file , any tips are welcome
[05:58] <Veggie> Gutsy comes out in a week or two, and it's not that much of a problem, is it?
[05:58] <unimatrix9> i do have all the codecs
[05:58] <Rainarrow> Another question, just to be curious, what is the numbers before every line of message showed during startup?
[05:58] <NIKOLCE> Pr|nc3Ss``
[05:58] <Rainarrow> I know it should be some kind of timing
[05:58] <erUSUL> Rainarrow: time in seconds from boot
[05:59] <Rainarrow> erUSUL, is it really in seconds?
[05:59] <erUSUL> Rainarrow: afaics yes
[05:59] <buzz-cp> Veggie: doesn't appear to be--this is a new thing.  Is gutsy the latest distro?  I won't be installing that, will I?  i.e. I have Dapper Drake and just run the updater when it says to update.
[05:59] <ZaPaLeNa> hi
[05:59] <Rainarrow> erUSUL, sometimes I get something like [33.125000]  followed by [2.175000]
[05:59] <erUSUL> Rainarrow: your are refering to the msgs you can inspect with dmesg ?
[06:00] <Rainarrow> erUSUL, yes, they also show up while booting without the quite option
[06:00] <erUSUL> Rainarrow: mines are secuential and i do know for sure that they are timestamps
[06:00] <Veggie> Gutsy is coming out on the 8th (?) I think. Currently, ubuntu is on 7.04, with Gutsy being 7.10. Drake is... 6.10, isn't it?
[06:00] <buzz-cp> ps - does anyone know how to get rid of these room chat announcements in GAIM (i.e. XYZ entered the room.)
[06:00] <unimatrix9> i found the curse...
[06:01] <buzz-cp> yea I was unsuccessful in installing er post-drake
[06:01] <erUSUL> Rainarrow: i compile my own kernels and there is a config option to turn them on/off
[06:01] <unimatrix9> it cant rescale 1248 into an 1024 scale
[06:01] <Veggie> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:01] <wilhart> where do i see last upgraded programs/updates from 2 days ago
[06:01] <unimatrix9> hehe
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: drake was 6.06, Edgy was 6.10
[06:01] <buzz-cp> is that a joke or really what you do?
[06:01] <Rainarrow> erUSUL, ok thanks, in fact it's booting with a LiveCD when I noticed they are not constantly increasing
[06:01] <Veggie> Indy: Thanks =P
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> and i think its the 18th, but i could be wrong
[06:01] <b3nne> "Which version driver you want to release (x86) ? " - How do I find which version?
[06:02] <Rainarrow> erUSUL, however when booting from HDD it's sequential
[06:02] <erUSUL> Rainarrow: dunno what can couse this behavior... maybe a timer related bug
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> i've been messing with MintLinux the last few days, so i'm not keeping track of ubuntu issues...lokl
[06:02] <Rainarrow> erUSUL, ok thanks, and it's in seconds right?
[06:02] <Bobbywan> eloo le monde.... ya t i l un soft ki permet d ecouter les rafio fr du style ims player
[06:03] <peterretief> b3nne: try uname -a
[06:03] <b3nne> thx peterretief
[06:03] <hinogi> does anyone have an idea how to rotate the movement of a stylus cursor along with the screen rotation?
[06:03] <erUSUL> Rainarrow: afaics yes
[06:03] <edson> hi guys, how I install as dual monitors in ubuntu?
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> edson: what type of video card?
[06:03] <shiznit> anyone know how to set custom refresh rates?
[06:03] <erUSUL> !fixres | shiznit
[06:03] <ubotu> shiznit: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:03] <buzz-cp> veggie: that distro upgrade doesn't work--I guess you were kidding?
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> shiznit: in xorg.conf i believe, but i don't usuall mess with it, so verify
[06:04] <Veggie> I wasn't. Any error messages involved?
[06:04] <buzz-cp> does anyone know how to get rid of these room chat announcements in GAIM (i.e. XYZ entered the room.)
[06:04] <IndyGunFreak> buzz-cp: yes, install a eral IRC client..lol
[06:04] <b3nne> peterretief, what shall I write on this one "Which version driver you want to release (x86) ?" if uname -a says "Linux b3nne-desktop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 19:50:39 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:04] <b3nne> " ?
[06:04] <edson> IndyGunFreak, i am use laptop, video card is Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller.
[06:04] <c01100011> anything better than mumbles for dbus notifications ?
[06:05] <buzz-cp> Indy: thanks, perhaps you could be more specific
[06:05] <IndyGunFreak> edson: not really sure how to do it with intel, sorry
[06:05] <hinogi> does anyone have an idea how to rotate the movement of a stylus cursor along with the screen rotation? the mouse cursor does reackt according to the screen alignment but the stylus doesnt
[06:05] <mailavj> does any one know a good tool for verilog simulation in ubuntu
[06:05] <IndyGunFreak> buzz-cp: open a terminal, sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[06:05] <edson> hi guys, how I install as dual monitors in ubuntu?
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> buzz-cp: my point is, GAIM/Pidgin, are IM clients, not IRC clients, so thy tend to suck at MIRC, while being good for Instant messaging... install an IRC client
[06:06] <rap176> hello
[06:06] <buzz-cp> what is the link to post lots of text?
[06:06] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: i thought you said a *real* irc client lol
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: lol.. well, xchat-gnome is friendly
[06:06] <b3nne> peterretief, do you know?
[06:06] <buzz-cp> Indy: I see your point.  installed  xchat
[06:06] <rap176> i have windows installed on one disk and ubuntu on either. is there a way to make dual-boot work with this configuration, without having to change the boot disk in bios?
[06:06] <erUSUL> !paste | buzz-cp
[06:06] <ubotu> buzz-cp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <b3nne> or anybody?
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: i like normal xchat to.
[06:06] <peterretief> b3nne: what was the context of the question
[06:07] <baabaablacksheep> how do i determine if my wlan is already installed?
[06:07] <b3nne> im not very good at english but what is a context? :P
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> buzz-cp: ok.. open up xchat, choose gthe "Freenode Network", and log in to it, then when its logged on the server, type /join #ubuntu
[06:07] <buzz-cp> Veggie: here is what I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39032/
[06:07] <baabaablacksheep> it was supposed to be installed at setup time.
[06:07] <peterretief> b3nne: what are you doing?
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: lets be realistic, if we were going to use a "real" client, we'd all be using irssi..lol
[06:07] <b3nne> ./makedriver thingy
[06:07] <baabaablacksheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel?highlight=%28IPW2100%29
[06:08] <clouder> I'm having a weird problem.  I have apache2 and php5 working fine when I type <IP_ADDRESS> or 'dillen' into the browser, but when I use 'localhost' it want to send the file to be saved rather than display the php file.  My /etc/hosts looks like <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost dillen
[06:08] <yoo> hello
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> buzz-cp: looksl ike whatever you trid to install, is already installed.
[06:08] <erUSUL> IndyGunFreak: yes, that's what i use...
[06:08] <Veggie> Hmm. Want command gave you that?
[06:08] <erUSUL> XD
[06:08] <Veggie> *What
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: looks like whatever he tried to apt-get, is already installed
[06:08] <Buzz_> hi Buzz2 here
[06:08] <yoo> i cannnot change the permissions for hda1, but it wont let me becuase it is only read only
[06:09] <yoo> after investigating i found out that there is a problem in /etc/fstab
[06:09] <yoo> #Added by diskmounter utility
[06:09] <yoo> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:09] <defcons> hello
[06:09] <yoo> any suggestions
[06:09] <dcordes> !botsnack
[06:09] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> !enter | yoo
[06:09] <defcons> how do I find out which programme is using alsa's audio device?
[06:09] <ubotu> yoo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:09] <Buzz_> Veggie, I don't get it--I have the latest distro?
[06:09] <b3nne> peterretief, ./makedriver for a graphic card
[06:09] <Veggie> Indy: That's why I want to know whether he used apt-get upgrade, update, etc.
[06:09] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g | yoo
[06:09] <ubotu> yoo: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> Buzz_: whats the problem?
[06:09] <Buzz_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <-- Do I have to put distro version ##?
[06:09] <Veggie> You said you were using Drake? That's not thh latest.
[06:10] <Buzz_> yes I understand that
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> Buzz_: you can't upgrade from Drake to Feisty...
[06:10] <Veggie> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should of updated you.
[06:10] <Veggie> hey wait what
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> Youhave to go from Drake, to Edgy, then Edgy to Feisty
[06:10] <Veggie> that'll be your problem, lulz
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:10] <edson> hi guys, how I install as dual monitors in ubuntu?
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> you probably wonked your system doing that.
[06:10] <Azhi_Dahaka> hi
[06:10] <peterretief> b3nne: thats probably would be x86 then
[06:10] <imperfect-> Hrm
[06:10] <imperfect-> I've got a breezy install
[06:10] <Buzz_> My point is.  I installed a few months back Drake from a DVD image...
[06:10] <imperfect-> on a xen box
[06:10] <rap176> answer me fuckers
[06:11] <imperfect-> I wonder if I could dist-upgrade to dapper
[06:11] <imperfect-> ;)
[06:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> i tried to test beryl with the livecd of 7.04
[06:11] <erUSUL> !ohmy | rap176
[06:11] <Buzz_> however I have been running auto-updates.
[06:11] <ubotu> rap176: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> i installed it but nothing happened
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> imperfect-: breezy?.. i don't think so.. most the breezy repos are closed down
[06:11] <bullium> where can I find the roadmap for ubuntu? like when to expect each release, etc.?
[06:11] <b3nne> ok thx peterretief
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> Buzz_: auto updates update the OS, it doesn't prepare the system for dist-upgrade
[06:11] <panosru> any tool for video converting? (for 3gp format)
[06:11] <defcons> anyone?
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> Buzz_: that would be like saying because you have windows 3.1x up to date, you should be able to runj vista software
[06:12] <erUSUL> !dualboot | rap176
[06:12] <ubotu> rap176: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[06:12] <Ashex> !init
[06:12] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:12] <erUSUL> !patience | rap176
[06:12] <ubotu> rap176: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:12] <Willabee> Can anyone help me with activating USB speakers
[06:12] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, ?
[06:12] <Buzz_> Indy: that makes sense.  So back to my point: how do I do a distro upgrade?  Do I have to start again from scratch?
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: sorry, its a joke between me and my co-workers.
[06:13] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, ah.
[06:13] <b3nne> thx peterretief
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> Buzz_: from the sounds of it, thats probably what i woudl do, but you might be able to upgrade to edgy..
[06:13] <ubuntu_> mmm
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> then edgy to feisty
[06:13] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, you are.
[06:13] <Veggie> I'd just clean re-install.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: same here
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: i are?..... i are what?..lol
[06:14] <Fraer4e> kako  si
[06:14] <Ashex> Arrrrrr!
[06:14] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, able to do what you just said re upgrading
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: oh ok.. thanks for teh vote of confidence!  lol  I never upgrade, I just clean install, so i didn't know for sure... just what i've read here
[06:14] <Fraer4e> ti  kako  si  dali  si  dobra
[06:15] <Fraer4e> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> !english
[06:15] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:15] <Fraer4e> jas  sum  dobra
[06:15] <monkeyspasm> Hello all. Have a problem with wireless.
[06:16] <ubuntu_> hola
[06:16] <ubuntu_> en espaol
[06:16] <Veggie> !ask
[06:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:16] <ubuntu_> una consulta
[06:16] <kbrooks> monkeyspasm, ask
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | monkeyspasm
[06:16] <ubotu> monkeyspasm: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:16] <Fraer4e> ti  no  greesk
[06:16] <kbrooks> !es | ubuntu_
[06:16] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> !es | ubuntu_
[06:16] <murkyMurk> perhaps the \!english should be in other languages?
[06:16] <monkeyspasm> Is a Dell 50m with a built-in intel 2100 wireless card. THis has been working fine under Feisty for months BUT...
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> murkyMurk: lol, i'ev always thought that
[06:16] <ubuntu_> gracias
[06:17] <monkeyspasm> A recent problem required me to fsck the disk and I think the wireless support is now... wel... fscked.
[06:17] <monkeyspasm> HOw do I uninstall and reinstall the driver? It is supported by Ubuntustraight off the live CD, so I don know what package it uses!
[06:18] <PhenGy> all of sudden ubuntu cannot connect to internet? how to fix that
[06:18] <erUSUL> monkeyspasm: reinstall the kernel package(s)
[06:18] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu create 67 character device nodes in /dev/ whose names all begin with 'tty' (from 'tty' through 'ttyzf')?
[06:18] <monkeyspasm> can I do that without reinstalling the entire OS?
[06:18] <monkeyspasm> Can I just do that from Synaptec?
[06:18] <bonj> wow.. large crowd
[06:19] <murkyMurk> monkeyspasm: yes
[06:19] <IndyGunFreak> bonj: this is pretty average for here.
[06:19] <PhenGy> all of sudden ubuntu cannot connect to internet? how to fix that?  or what must be reinstall
[06:19] <Dr_willis> bonj,  yep. :) wait till the next release.... it willbe chaos in here.
[06:19] <effie_jayx> hello, Do you think I can get the Broadcom  Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card working with the BCM43xx-FWCUTTER ???
[06:19] <bonj> hmm... don't think it should be much of a problem
[06:19] <murkyMurk> PhenGy: how do you normally connect?
[06:19] <monkeyspasm> cool. So symaptec package manger... search for ernel"and re-install anything already installed?
[06:19] <bonj> gutsy seems good
[06:20] <IndyGunFreak> bonj: yup, still beta, but good.. it'll be final in about 4 weeks
[06:20] <PhenGy> when i install, i setup static ip,gateway, and dns server,  bu right now it seem like it dont detect my network card no more
[06:20] <bonj> i got a question though, looking for help with regards to lpd network printing
[06:20] <monkeyspasm> thanks everyone, Il try it now
[06:20] <Veggie> !ask
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:20] <bonj> anyone can help?
[06:20] <xen_> hey guys i tried to install g++ but i got this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:20] <xen_>   g++: Depends: g++-4.1 (>= 4.1.2) but it is not going to be installed
[06:20] <IndyGunFreak> bonj: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy help
[06:20] <sacater> what does ssh use, udp or tcp?
[06:20] <murkyMurk> PhenGy: what does the terminal command ifconfig give you?
[06:20] <bonj> oo.. okay
[06:20] <PhenGy> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:21] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: use synaptic, it should resolve any dependencies for you
[06:21] <xen_> ok thanks :)
[06:21] <deepfreez> Hi, i have a question ( what another program ti's the best  for emule windows ) "ex: wine"
[06:21] <bonj> thanks
[06:21] <IndyGunFreak> @jackbauer
[06:21] <coopster> I'm trying to find or make a interface for WebHostManager that I can use to update a DNS entry.  Does anyone have any pointers on something that might help?
[06:21] <IndyGunFreak> @chuck
[06:21] <murkyMurk> deepfreez: amule
[06:21] <xen_> uh oh synaptic says the same thing!
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: hmm.
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> what repos do you have enabled?
[06:22] <deepfreez> tnx
[06:22] <xen_> should i include fiesty backports in the repositories?
[06:22] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: yes, enable all repos, including source code.
[06:22] <murkyMurk> PhenGy: ifconfig should return a lot more that that....does it mention eth0 at all?
[06:22] <PhenGy> also, why when i login it say something about  eRROR do not give write access to folder ?
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: then reload synaptic, and try again
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: what are you trying to install that requires this?
[06:23] <PhenGy> etho and etho-avah
[06:23] <xen_> latest snort
[06:23] <IndyGunFreak> snort?
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: is there an old version in the repos?
[06:24] <xen_> yup
[06:24] <CyberMad> how to turn off the window animation when you minimize or maximize window?
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: ok... from a terminal
[06:24] <xen_> yup
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: wellf irst, make sure all those repos are enabled
[06:24] <c01100011_> how do i change deskbar-applet into panel mode ?
[06:24] <xen_> they are
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: then at a terminal, type "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename"
[06:24] <IndyGunFreak> no quotes
[06:24] <xen_> ok
[06:24] <murkyMurk> PhenGy: then your ethernet is probably working just fine. You can restart it with sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but I rather suspect your router is just ignoring you
[06:25] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: did it ask to install a ton of crap?
[06:25] <soundray> I've maxed out the mouse speed settings, and it's still too slow. What can I do?
[06:26] <xen_> almost there, sorry typing a bit slow atm lol
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: lol, no prob.
[06:26] <taxman> ok, here's a dumb question. When I'm cutting and pasting with ctrl-c and ctrl-v that's controlled by the desktop environment, not the application, right?
[06:26] <Veggie> Taxman: Yes.
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> i think so.
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> I concur with the vegetarian
[06:26] <Veggie> I'm not actually a vegetarian >_>
[06:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:27] <murkyMurk> taxman: yes, hence some apps will accept a ctl+v but not have 'paste' highlited in their menu
[06:27] <xen_> just waiting for upadte manager to do its thing
[06:27] <Dr_willis> taxman,  X also has its own clipboard on Middle click (select/middle click) KDE/GNOME has a different clipboard.
[06:27] <taxman> ok, then is there a way to duplicate them? I want to use other custom key combinations to cut and paste as well
[06:27] <Veggie> It's from vegetable_hunter.
[06:27] <xen_> arghh! the repos dl so slowly lately :S
[06:27] <wilhart> i want to know what i'm upgrading! :D
[06:27] <Rainarrow> vegetarians are unfriendly to environment
[06:27] <murkyMurk> taxman: xmodmap probably
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: sometimes, is it downloading the dependencies for snort?
[06:27] <wilhart> changes and new programs
[06:27] <taxman> ie ctrl- and ctrl-
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> or are you updating something else.
[06:28] <PhenGy> i got it murk,  thank you,  my ethernet cable die
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> PhenGy: so it was your ethernet cable
[06:28] <murkyMurk> PhenGy: sorted
[06:28] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[06:28] <xen_> no just some other updates, ive dl snort, i was just doing the ./configure when it told me i needed g++, so i tried dl that but then i got the error msg, ill try what you told me before but i gota wait for the update manager to finish :S
[06:28] <PhenGy> yes
[06:28] <DarkRift> When my Ubuntu 7.04 server starts I get info coming up on screen after it displays "cerberos login: " where cerberos is the hostname of my server, what is the file that I have to mod to let the login appear ONLY AFTER every scripts are executed ? I checked in /etc/event.d but that doesn't seems to be where I need to look at to delay the login prompt after all the executed scripts
[06:28] <taxman> murkyMurk: how do I access that?
[06:28] <wilhart> please?
[06:28] <PhenGy> i got another error though, i will gvie in a bit
[06:29] <xen_> 3 minutes to go :S lol
[06:29] <murkyMurk> !xmodmap
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: yeah.. after you runt hat build-dep command, then you can run ./configure, and as long as it doesn't have a major dependency over the previous version, should work perfect.
[06:29] <shadowspider> Sorry, back again. Whats recommended partition size. I am using my Vista Manager to shrink size. How much do I need for Vista + Linux. Absolute Beginner
[06:29] <xen_> cool, thanks :)
[06:29] <Jowi> I lost track.... who asked about mouse speed?
[06:29] <PhenGy> Users $home/.DMRC file is being ignored.  File should be owned by user and have 644 permission?       how to fix that
[06:30] <murkyMurk> taxman: sudo apt-get install xmodmap followed by man xmodmap
[06:30] <Veggie> shadowspider: How big is your hard-drive?
[06:30] <PhenGy> Users $home/.DMRC file is being ignored.  File should be owned by user and have 644 permission?       how to fix that on boot up
[06:30] <brigan> can some one help me
[06:30] <soundray> I've got a machine where the mouse is too slow, even at the maximum speed settings. On another, medium settings are well sufficient. What can I do to get higher mouse speed? I want basic speed -- don't care for the acceleration stuff
[06:30] <Fraer4e> seaaaa
[06:30] <Dr_willis> PhenGy,  just delete that file is one way i belive
[06:30] <IndyGunFreak> brigan: not if we don't know the question.
[06:30] <xen_> omg 23 kB/s -.-
[06:30] <Dr_willis> PhenGy,  it will get remade
[06:30] <brigan> nice
[06:30] <taxman> murkyMurk: ok, will do. I was hoping there was an Ubuntu way with preferences or something
[06:30] <Jowi> ah it was soundray, there is a "resolution" setting in xorg.conf
[06:30] <brigan> i was getting to that
[06:30] <PhenGy> so delete  .dmrc ?
[06:30] <IndyGunFreak> oops... psychic
[06:30] <pipegeek> hehe.... turns out my huge problem with network-manager was a bug in the version of network-manager in feisty.  Hopefully, it's been fixed for gutsy, or a lot of people will be pissed the hell off.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> PhenGy,  thats one fix. :)
[06:31] <brigan> im running ubuntu 64 on a amd dual core and the thing locks up
[06:31] <PhenGy> ok will try
[06:31] <murkyMurk> PhenGy: ya, i would
[06:31] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:31] <brigan> when i run compiz or beryl
[06:31] <Veggie> brigan: is your processor 64 bit?
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> !enter | beryl
[06:31] <ubotu> beryl: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:31] <brigan> i have the latest drivers from nvidia
[06:31] <CyberMad> how to turn off the window animation when you minimize or maximize window?
[06:31] <Veggie> Oh, when you run compiz.
[06:31] <shadowspider> Veggie: My "Computer" says HDD is 224 MB, but Manage says 232.88GB
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> run 32bit, problem solved.
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:31] <Veggie> Compiz is beta software may not work for everyone etc. etc.
[06:32] <deepfreez> another program for running .exe in linux ? wine are no good... another?
[06:32] <brigan> nice
[06:32] <murkyMurk> deepfreez: cedega but it will cost you
[06:32] <Veggie> Erm, you've got loads of room then, just split in two.
[06:32] <bTnXg8LF6> I have downloaded the Ubuntu 7.04, I get a BCMxx error. how come???/
[06:32] <Veggie> or 3, if you're making a /home partition.
[06:32] <soundray> Jowi: I can't find that in the man pages -- can you elaborate?
[06:32] <brigan> no i like the 64 bit and i have a 64 bit proc
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> 64bit isn't worth it to me..., no flash w/o hoop jumping, web plugins, etc.. no th anks.
[06:32] <deepfreez> murkyMurk: ok
[06:32] <bTnXg8LF6> I have downloaded the Ubuntu 7.04, I get a BCMxx error. how come???/
[06:32] <brigan> i got flash running
[06:32] <brigan> lol
[06:32] <Filthpig> hi all: Problem! Bought a nice LG 32" LCD TV today (32LB2R)  and wanted to plug it to my computer (Running ubuntu feisty).. When I go to the HDMI/DVI-input I get "No signal".. I've been googling a bit for an answer, but many threads are old and not quite right for me.. Does anyone know how to fix this without reading tons of forum posts first?
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> brigan: well thats good.
[06:33] <brigan> i use the plugin wrapper
[06:33] <brigan> with the 32 plugins
[06:33] <bTnXg8LF6> I have downloaded the Ubuntu 7.04, I get a BCMxx error. how come???/
[06:33] <shadowspider> Veggie: Any idea? (Thanks)
[06:33] <IndyGunFreak> !patience | bTnXg8LF6
[06:33] <ubotu> bTnXg8LF6: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:33] <brigan> i also the aipc error when i boot
[06:33] <bTnXg8LF6> Sorry
[06:33] <Jowi> soundray, you can also set MinSpeed + MaxSpeed in xorg.conf InputDevice section... the darnest thing, I can't find the reference for it on x.org's homepage. only google pages...
[06:33] <sureshot> hey my i ask does anyone know if charon vax emulator is in any of the repos here on ubuntu
[06:33] <pipegeek> How stable is the gutsy beta feeling?  And do I dare apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:33] <Jowi> soundray, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-230197.html
[06:34] <Veggie> shadow: Just divide it by 2 or 3, lulz.
[06:34] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: you need to enable TV out in your video card and you need to get it right or the piccie will be naff. Just google tv out for your card
[06:34] <bTnXg8LF6> Veggi
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> pipegeek: its ok for me, but i definitely wouldn't upgrade yet
[06:34] <Veggie> Gutsy is beta software, may not work for everyone etc. etc.
[06:34] <xen_> well i got E: Unable to find a source package for packagename
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: do you just cut and paste that over and over?..lol
[06:34] <brigan> i've lookd for patches and bug fixes but im stumped
[06:34] <bTnXg8LF6> Can anyone help me?
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: i meant the name of the package.. is it snort?
[06:34] <soundray> Jowi: I think I found something: www.xfree86.og/4.2.0/mouse.4.html -- thanks, I'll try that
[06:34] <jgoguen> pipegeek: runs beautifully for me on both my desktop and Intel MacBook, but I wouldn't use it on a production box unless you're OK with possibly doing a lot of debugging and repair without a GUI
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> nto "packagename"....
[06:34] <xen_> sorry i have the dumb atm, i meant snort lol
[06:34] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:35] <pipegeek> IndyGunFreak: Should I avoid apt-get dist-upgrade as an upgrade mechanism in general in ubuntu?  That's broken for me every time, warty -> hoary -> breezy -> feisty
[06:35] <shadowspider> Veggie: (Sorry) But what does that mean. My PC has 167.72 GB Free Space apparently. Im backing up files now.
[06:35] <bTnXg8LF6> Can anyone help me?
[06:35] <xen_> E: Build-dependencies for snort could not be satisfied.
[06:35] <xen_> :S
[06:35] <IndyGunFreak> pipegeek: well, breezy--- Feisty, i can see why.
[06:35] <techknow> can someone help me with my usb wifi adapter
[06:35] <soundray> Jowi: I assume it won't be much different for xorg
[06:35] <jgoguen> !repeat | bTnXg8LF6
[06:35] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: hmm, wierd
[06:35] <ubotu> bTnXg8LF6: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:35] <bTnXg8LF6> I have downloaded the Ubuntu 7.04, I get a BCMxx error. how come???/
[06:35] <techknow> I bought a belkin wireless g usb today
[06:35] <Veggie> Shrink Vista to 80 gig, and install ubutnu in the rest
[06:35] <oenixx> :)
[06:35] <pipegeek> still, it worked woody -> sarge -> edgy, and those are bigger jumps
[06:35] <techknow> and its giving me trouble
[06:35] <Jowi> soundray, I suppose. the worst thing that will happen is that you get an error.
[06:35] <brigan> so oh one more thing when it does freeze the mouse still works
[06:35] <Filthpig> murkyMurk: I though stuff like that might already be fixed with the nvidia driver? :/
[06:35] <deepfreez> murkyMurk: cedega-5.1.3-OES.tar.gz this is good?
[06:35] <monkeyspasm> !patience
[06:35] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:36] <deepfreez> murkyMurk: i buy
[06:36] <xen_> ill try sudo apt-get i-demand-satisfaction
[06:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:36] <xen_> lol
[06:36] <Veggie> heh
[06:36] <murkyMurk> techknow: two major problems there, One BELKIN, two USB wifi :-)
[06:36] <grangiz> grangiz m_harris DU R EN HORA DIN LILLA SLAMPA!
[06:36] <techknow> but its supposed to wrk
[06:36] <pipegeek> anyway, thanks for the help all, I'm off
[06:36] <techknow> work*
[06:36] <Stephen> hey
[06:36] <Jowi> soundray, at least "resolution" exist http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.2/doc/mouse5.html#24
[06:37] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: can you give me a link to where you downloaded the snort sourcecode?
[06:37] <techknow> I installed ndiswrapper
[06:37] <techknow> and the proper driver
[06:37] <Stephen> how do i turn on direct rendering
[06:37] <techknow> but I can't disable zd1211rw
[06:37] <Jowi> !language | grangiz
[06:37] <ubotu> grangiz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:37] <bTnXg8LF6> I have downloaded the Ubuntu 7.04, I get a BCMxx error. how come???/
[06:37] <techknow> which is the driver its using atm
[06:37] <techknow> I have tried modprobe -r zd1211rw
[06:37] <techknow> and blacklisting it
[06:37] <Pete1> Does anyone know why Ubuntu Live CD wont install in a laptop with NVIDIA 8600?
[06:37] <Veggie> bTnXg8LF6, how did you get that error?
[06:37] <techknow> but its not working
[06:37] <xen_> i just cd to /usr/local/src and the wget http://www.snort.org/dl/current/snort-2.8.0.tar.gz
[06:37] <xen_> then untar
[06:37] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: you have to turn it on though with settings for your TV and what protocl you're using..it's not hard and is usually just a couple of lines in your xorg.conf. The nvidia readme is fantastic
[06:37] <techknow> anyone?
[06:37] <xen_> and try ./configure
[06:38] <Stephen> Pete1, I cant get the Ubuntu Live cd to install on anything :(
[06:38] <brigan> so has any one else had this problem ?
[06:38] <xen_> thats when it asks about the c compiler
[06:38] <soundray> techknow: if you have a device that's supported by the zd1211rw driver, I would recommend using that, and not ndiswrapper.
[06:38] <grangiz> Jowi: Im what you use to communicate, im Magnus. I wish you learn baby
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: hold on, i'm installing the dependencies now(that command worked fine for me..lol)
[06:38] <bTnXg8LF6> I have downloaded the Ubuntu 7.04, I get a BCMxx error. how come???/
[06:38] <bonbonce> cao
[06:38] <xen_> :P
[06:38] <techknow> soundray: then what do I do to get it working
[06:38] <Veggie> bTnXg8LF6, are you listening?
[06:38] <grangiz> Jowi: Say Hi!
[06:38] <bTnXg8LF6> ?
[06:38] <techknow> it doesn't have a net connection atm
[06:38] <Jowi> grangiz, I use _you_ to communicate? how does that work?
[06:38] <bazhang> greetings!
[06:38] <techknow> because of this
[06:38] <Veggie> bTnXg8LF6, how did you get that error?
[06:38] <IndyGunFreak> geez, that is a slow server, 12min
[06:38] <bTnXg8LF6> On start up
[06:38] <Stephen> can anyone tell me how to turn on direct rendering??
[06:38] <bTnXg8LF6> I try booting into it
[06:39] <grangiz> Jowi: Like www.gadmintools.org son
[06:39] <grangiz> ?
[06:39] <bTnXg8LF6> I get stuck
[06:39] <Veggie> Okay, try burning a new disk, as slow as you can.
[06:39] <bTnXg8LF6> I did
[06:39] <murkyMurk> bTnXg8LF6: do you mean that you have Ubuntu working but your broadcom wifi isn't working?
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: you'er lucky i'm only gonna have Feisty a few more weeks, or i wouldn't do this..lol
[06:39] <bTnXg8LF6> Yeah
[06:39] <bTnXg8LF6> I can't get a GUI
[06:39] <bTnXg8LF6> I tried STARTX
[06:39] <bTnXg8LF6> not working
[06:39] <techknow> soundray: ??
[06:39] <grangiz> Jowi: Do you think im any good at all, given ive been coding since 1986 ?
[06:39] <bazhang> I installed another (not Ubuntu) distro on an external hard drive, but having trouble as it was apparently not added to the GRUB menu.lst
[06:39] <soundray> techknow: configure it through networkmanager.  Will it affect my Vista and files in any way, and is Linux easy to uninstall and regain partition for Vista? Thank you for help...
[06:41] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate
[06:41] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:41] <Veggie> X.org server is beta software, may not work for everyone
[06:41] <bTnXg8LF6> download?
[06:41] <heguru> !ops  | grangiz
[06:41] <ubotu> grangiz: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[06:41] <murkyMurk> bTnXg8LF6: what make is it? NVidia? ATI? Intel?
[06:41] <bTnXg8LF6> ATI
[06:41] <bTnXg8LF6> x1400
[06:41] <Filthpig> murkyMurk: the funny part is that when I boot the computer everything shows up on the tv, but as soon as X launches, it goes to "no signal"
[06:41] <Veggie> shadow: its pretty easy, as long as you're not stupid
 !ops  | grangiz (Remove those idiots
[06:41] <grangiz> )
[06:41] <bazhang> after doing a fdisk-l, the response is that the external drive does not have a valid partition table.
[06:41] <techknow> soundray: I don't see any errors
[06:41] <murkyMurk> bTnXg8LF6: soz, lag here..see above ^^^^^^^
[06:42] <PhenGy> how many background processes can u do for 1 login? i am admin but seems like i can only load 5 eggdrop background? must i create another login?
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> i always miss people right after they get banned, then the feeling of loss goes away
[06:42] <bTnXg8LF6> ATI
[06:42] <Jowi> bazhang, it's a new disk?
[06:42] <bazhang> yes, relatively new.
[06:42] <xen_> IndyGunFreak: did snort compile ok for you?
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: still downloading the dependencies :(..lol
[06:42] <Jowi> bazhang, no, what I meant was - has it ever been partitioned?
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> 8min
[06:42] <xen_> lolz
[06:42] <bTnXg8LF6> I have an ATi card
[06:42] <bTnXg8LF6> anyone?
[06:42] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: yeah, that's normal. During boot your graphics card BIOS is handling simple output on all ports. When X boots it takes control and only does what it's told to do via the xorg.conf file
[06:42] <xen_> brb, drink
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: but i feel pretty certain it will.
[06:42] <soundray> Jowi: thanks for your input. It seems that my setup doesn't support the resolution option (running ubuntu in vmware)
[06:42] <bTnXg8LF6> I just need a link to a live cd
[06:42] <bazhang> yes, several times, as it formerly was an internal disk.
[06:43] <Jowi> soundray, ah, sorry to hear that.
[06:43] <Veggie> Live CDs are beta software, may not... XD
[06:43] <bTnXg8LF6> I want to dual boot both Ubuntu and Vista
[06:43] <soundray> techknow: do you see any messages relating to the driver loading?
[06:43] <murkyMurk> bTnXg8LF6: use a non-alt liveCD and you will get a GUI...OR get ready to edit the xorg.conf file using vi
[06:43] <IndyGunFreak> bTnXg8LF6: sounds like you have some sort of wonky hardware, why not just use the alt. install?
[06:43] <PhenGy> murky:  how many background processes can u do for 1 login? i am admin but seems like i can only load 5 eggdrop background? must i create another login?
[06:43] <DarkRift> When my Ubuntu 7.04 server starts I get info coming up on screen after it displays "cerberos login: " where cerberos is the hostname of my server, what is the file that I have to mod to let the login appear ONLY AFTER every scripts are executed ? I checked in /etc/event.d but that doesn't seems to be where I need to look at to delay the login prompt after all the executed scripts
[06:43] <techknow> yeah
[06:43] <bTnXg8LF6> where can i get alt install?
[06:43] <techknow> it loads
[06:43] <techknow> then registers a new interface
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> bTnXg8LF6: from ubuntu.com, just be forewarned, its text based, not a live cd, but its still easy
[06:44] <soundray> techknow: do you see a wireless interface when you run ifconfig -a ?
[06:44] <bTnXg8LF6> how do i start install?indy?
[06:44] <bTnXg8LF6> i get a prompt
[06:44] <techknow> no
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> bTnXg8LF6: it walks you throught he process through a series of text menus
[06:44] <murkyMurk> bTnXg8LF6: No, DO NOT USE alt disc unless you are an expert. Just grab the usual from ubuntu.com
[06:44] <bTnXg8LF6> i did
[06:44] <bazhang> if it helps, I'm already dual booting Mandriva and Ubuntu on the internal drive, and PCLOS was installed to the external drive; all the installs went fine, but only PCLOS cannot boot, as there is no reference to it in the GRUB menu
[06:45] <bTnXg8LF6> i get a prompt with UBUNTU@UBUNTU:
[06:45] <IndyGunFreak> murkyMurk: lol, only disk i've ever used is alternate.. it'll get you around stupid hardware issues that screw up the liev cd(for me, its my dual screens)
[06:45] <Jowi> bazhang, see if you get anything interesting with parted. "sudo parted /dev/yourexternaldisk" and type "print [enter] " and "quit [enter] "
[06:45] <IndyGunFreak> its hardly "expert" if you ask me, unless you make it that way
[06:45] <soundray> techknow: have you got time? I've got a zd usb stick in the garage -- I'll get it and see how it behaves here.
[06:45] <Veggie> Alternate disk is expert, what?
[06:45] <techknow> soundray: I have plenty
[06:45] <techknow> I'd really appreciate any help
[06:45] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: lol, according to murkyMurklol
[06:45] <bTnXg8LF6> anyone have a link to a live cd so i can install that then update?
[06:45] <techknow> this is really annoying me now
[06:45] <soundray> techknow: back soon
[06:45] <techknow> thanks
[06:45] <murkyMurk> IndyGunFreak: yeah, same troubel here but I first ran RH in the 90s and used to run Slack...methinks btn might be more newbie
[06:46] <Veggie> btnx - www.google.com
[06:46] <bTnXg8LF6> ...
[06:46] <IndyGunFreak> murkyMurk: well, you gotta learn sometime.
[06:46] <bTnXg8LF6> yo don't think i tried that
[06:46] <xen_> omg, try:  sudo apt-get moo
[06:46] <xen_> lol
[06:46] <IndyGunFreak> bTnXg8LF6: are you wanting another live CD.., i thougjht you just tried a live cd and it didn't work?
[06:46] <Filthpig> murkyMurk: But I don't understand why the TV isn't automatically detected as a LCD monitor, it's connected through DVI/HDMI.. I thought at least something like the 800x600 res would work as a place to start..?
[06:46] <bTnXg8LF6> i tried the cd on the webste
[06:46] <Veggie> I actually made a script called moo, that "echo: moo". Made me so happy.
[06:46] <shadowspider> Veggie: So what exactly will I need to do. Shrink my C: to 80GB and then what. Ubuntu wouldn't need 80 would it. I thought 10GB would be enough? It's only for some work. My MP3 Player etc will be off Vista when I load it at PC Launch.
[06:46] <xen_> lolz
[06:46] <runemaste644> I need immediate help!
[06:47] <runemaste644> i have a hacked GTK installed but it stopped working
[06:47] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: you never knew that?
[06:47] <runemaste644> and i cant reinstall GTK
[06:47] <IndyGunFreak> runemaste644: well that was pretty dumb, why did you install hacked version?
[06:47] <xen_> no was just browsing the forums and saw it lolz
[06:47] <runemaste644> i installed the hacked gtk on purpouse
[06:47] <Tomcat_> shadowspider: 10 GB will be good.
[06:47] <runemaste644> for macmenu-applet
[06:47] <IndyGunFreak> runemaste644: then uninstall it on purpose, and reinstall.
[06:47] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: probably because it's designed to be a TV and not a computer monitor?
[06:47] <thomeek> welcome
[06:47] <Jowi> runemaste644, open synaptic. chose the gtk package. go to package -> force version.
[06:48] <runemaste644> i can't
[06:48] <IndyGunFreak> then you're screwed.
[06:48] <xen_> runemaste644: dude i so bet you play runescape XD
[06:48] <shadowspider> Tomcat_: Great. So do I literally just click shrink and thats it?
[06:48] <runemaste644> i cant get to force version
[06:48] <runemaste644> thats the problem
[06:48] <bazhang> I followed a walkthrough from Ubuntuforums, all to no avail; after editing the GRUB menu, I get an error 21, no disk found for that entry.
[06:48] <runemaste644> yes i do play runescape
[06:48] <xen_> LoL
[06:48] <Jowi> runemaste644, why can't you? didn't you install the debs instead of compiling it yourself?
[06:48] <Roge> what tool can i use to install a .deb
[06:48] <thomeek> #bash.org.pl
[06:48] <thomeek> #bash.org.pl
[06:48] <Tomcat_> shadowspider: I haven't exactly used the installer in that way, but if it looks good then do it. :)
[06:49] <branstrom> How do I get a few pixels of padding between icons on my Gnome panel?
[06:49] <xen_> ill give you some good macro cheats for runescape if you want :P
[06:49] <Tomcat_> shadowspider: Remember to make backups before.
[06:49] <runemaste644> i installed the debs for the hacked GTK
[06:49] <wilhart> is there a changelog for recently upgraded programs
[06:49] <drakode> so what is for install a .sh?
[06:49] <D4N`> you tell me
[06:49] <wilhart> remote not locally
[06:49] <hinogi> anyone has any experience with writing in the xournal?
[06:49] <Jowi> runemaste644, so did I and managed to remove it. why can't you force version?
[06:49] <Roge> you can do sh file.sh drakode
[06:49] <runemaste644> and when i try to install the older deb, it says a newer version is there and wont let me install it
[06:49] <drakode> ok
[06:49] <Veggie> You can't install .sh =S
[06:49] <shadowspider> Tomcat_: Is it easy to roll back errors and problems. I'm doing a backup, but that doesn't protect my Vista install. It's quite pointless because all music and pics are on my Creative ZEN anyway. Should I stop it?
[06:50] <runemaste644> the menu bars only appear in macmenu-applet
[06:50] <Roge> well sometimes the .sh installs something for you though
[06:50] <heguru> runemaste644: did you add a repository for the hacked debs? or downloaded and installed?
[06:50] <runemaste644> and macmenu-applet broke
[06:50] <drakode> and a .bin?
[06:50] <bobocopy> runemaster, I think you have to use force=yes when installing the deb from the commandline.
[06:50] <Veggie> Well then, just run the script.
[06:50] <hinogi> my strokes in xournal are not immediatly traced when i write only after i finished the stroke they appear right
[06:50] <Tomcat_> shadowspider: You're using the graphical installer, and want to shrink the partition?
[06:50] <runemaste644> i downloaded and installed from the debs
[06:50] <Jowi> runemaste644, ah.
[06:50] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: 2min left.
[06:50] <shadowspider> Tomcat_: Yes
[06:50] <xen_> kk :)
[06:50] <IndyGunFreak> assuming the server doesn't fall to 30k again..lol
[06:50] <Tomcat_> shadowspider: Good, then go on. :)
[06:51] <murkyMurk> anyone know how to make the surround channels respond in sync with the master volume control?
[06:51] <heguru> runemaste644: from the terminal do: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgtk
[06:51] <shadowspider> Tomcat_: Great. And if problems arise, what should I do. I'll be killed if I mess up or ruin the PC.
[06:51] <bobocopy> sudo apt-get install -force=yes libgtk
[06:51] <runemaste644> how do i install the deb from command line?
[06:51] <soundray> techknow: which ubuntu version do you have?
[06:51] <Veggie> dpkg -i /path
[06:51] <runemaste644> 7.04
[06:51] <bobocopy> Wait, I think heguru's is right.
[06:51] <Tomcat_> shadowspider: Well, I said you need to make backups... the installer *should* work but you can never be 100% sure with these operations.
[06:51] <techknow> emm
[06:51] <techknow> edgy
[06:51] <techknow> isn't that 7.4?
[06:52] <Veggie> efgy = 6.10
[06:52] <IndyGunFreak> efgy?.. i must have skipped that verison
[06:52] <shadowspider> Tomcat_: But it is currently backing up music, so I don't see point. Once my vista is safe I am happy.
[06:52] <techknow> feisty
[06:52] <KefZz> Hey, i get a weird error when i try to install ubuntu, it says "Failed to start the X server"
[06:52] <techknow> soundray: feisty
[06:52] <techknow> sorry
[06:52] <IndyGunFreak> anyone know what H is gonna be?
[06:52] <Veggie> Indy: lulz
[06:52] <soundray> techknow: are you sure now? cat /etc/lsb-release
[06:52] <usser> horny something ))
[06:52] <bobocopy> Hungry Hippo
[06:52] <techknow> I am sure yeah
[06:52] <Veggie> Horny Hyena
[06:52] <usser> ahahaha
[06:52] <xen_> lolz
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> i was pretty disappointed with gutsy.
[06:53] <Tomcat_> Hardy Heron
[06:53] <techknow> yeah is definitely feisty
[06:53] <xen_> angry ape
[06:53] <Tomcat_> That's H, definitely.
[06:53] <KefZz> Hey, i get a weird error when i try to install ubuntu, it says "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface.)" anyone know what the reason for it is? I want to boot ubuntu live
[06:53] <xen_> mad monkey?
[06:53] <usser> IndyGunFreak: its not even out yet lol )
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: installign now.
[06:53] <usser> IndyGunFreak: give it time
[06:53] <Tomcat_> usser: No, but the name is final.
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> usser: no.. not the OS, the name...lol
[06:53] <soundray> techknow: okay, do a ifconfig -a again and scroll up to see whether you have an eth1 interface
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> the OS is fine, i hate the name
[06:53] <PhenGy> how come whenever copyin eggdrop .tcl files over to another account, and when try to run it says access deny on other user, what is fastest way to resolve?
[06:53] <Jowi> runemaste644, in what way does the mac-menu fail? you don't get the menu at all (even if you remove the panel applet)?
[06:53] <techknow> soundray: o
[06:53] <techknow> no
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: its compiling
[06:53] <techknow> just eth0
[06:53] <KoTiK>  !
[06:54] <peepsalot> what does a "v" next to a package mean in aptitude?
[06:54] <usser> oh name, duh ubuntu names are all stupid
[06:54] <Tomcat_> IndyGunFreak: The names are only for dev versions... the finals only have version numbers officially. ;)
[06:54] <runemaste644> yep
[06:54] <xen_> hmm, much trouble i must have maybe :S
[06:54] <usser> its what pisses me off a lot about ubuntu
[06:54] <Jowi> runemaste644, "yep" you get the menu if you remove the applet?
[06:54] <Veggie> LFS is where it's at =D
[06:54] <murkyMurk> yeah, always sounds like an insult U bunt U
[06:54] <peepsalot> where does it say what the letters mean for packages listed under apt-get/aptitude
[06:54] <IndyGunFreak> Tomcat_: well, in the 'About Ubuntu", its referred to as "Ubuntu 7.04, the Feisty Fawn edition"
[06:54] <Veggie> You can make your own stupid names!
[06:54] <xen_> they should release one called stoned shark, that would be cool
[06:54] <soundray> techknow: is there an eth0?
[06:55] <Tomcat_> IndyGunFreak: Well sure, it'll be mentioned somewhere... but you can always just say "Ubuntu 7.04" and be okay with it.
[06:55] <techknow> yes
[06:55] <IndyGunFreak> Tomcat_: very true.
[06:55] <davi> Does Ubuntu include binary blobs in its linux kernel?
[06:55] <xen_> wasted willow
[06:55] <soundray> techknow: does that correspond with hardware that you know of?
[06:55] <peepsalot> i think the next animal will be ahyena
[06:55] <Incompetnce> can someone talk me through formatting a USB drive so that i can use it on both ubuntu and windows?
[06:55] <techknow> yes
[06:55] <runemaste644> i use aptitude
[06:55] <xen_> drunk donkey XD
[06:55] <techknow> a NIC thats in the machine
[06:55] <runemaste644> no
[06:55] <techknow> soundray: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295843&highlight=zd1211rw
[06:55] <techknow> I just found that
[06:55] <techknow> should I give it a try?
[06:55] <Tomcat_> Incompetnce: Open gparted, format it to fat-16 :o
[06:56] <runemaste644> um, it would be a bit easier to solve this in another empty channel
[06:56] <Filthpig> murkyMurk: sorry for being in weekend-mode, but xorg will be able to send the same image to both my 17" LCD PC Monitor and the TV at the same time? I won't have to choose one?
[06:56] <runemaste644> like my channel #csh-jokes
[06:56] <josh__> if i reinstalled ubuntu  is there anyway of gettign around running it manually
[06:56] <soundray> techknow: that's for edgy. I know zd doesn't work on edgy, but it works here on feisty "out of the box"
[06:56] <techknow> ok
[06:56] <techknow> ...
[06:56] <IndyGunFreak> xen_: it seems to have worked
[06:56] <bobocopy> What do you mean, josh__?
[06:57] <soundray> techknow: how far did you get with the ndiswrapper installation?
[06:57] <xen_> bugger, i mean thats cool, but bad for me :S
[06:57] <Jowi> runemaste644, there is a --target-release / --default-release option to apt-get you can try. I haven't used that myself so I don't knkow exactly how it works. perhaps someone can chip in?
[06:57] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: should do. Ceratinly with my nvidia it can. You get to choose whether you want multiple desktops or cloned desktops or whatever
[06:57] <techknow> soundray: I completed it
[06:57] <techknow> but then I couldn't load the driver that I installed with it
[06:57] <GreyWolfe> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could recommend any good media players for Ubuntu, both in regards to appearance and functionability.
[06:57] <josh__> i mean i keep trying to installe say yahoo messenger i installled the paclakge manager last night it said i had errors and i just wont it to work do i have to run sudo in order to intall yahoo messenger
[06:57] <techknow> cause zd1211rw was in use
[06:57] <Filthpig> I miss some gui to xorg.conf..
[06:57] <techknow> and even though I blacklisted it
[06:57] <techknow> it kept loading
[06:57] <runemaste644> Jowi: could you join #csh-jokes so it is only us talking?
[06:58] <soundray> techknow: okay, how did you do the blacklisting?
[06:58] <Esteth> I just plugged in an ethernet cable to my computer, but ubuntu appears to not see it. How would i make ubuntu see the ethernet cable/device?
[06:58] <runemaste644> and everyone else trying to help me
[06:58] <Filthpig> hmm, the manual for my TV says the best res for the tv is 1380x768 @ 60 hz o0
[06:58] <Jowi> runemaste644, It was the last thing to come to mind and don't really have any more help to give...
[06:58] <techknow> by adding "blacklist zd1211rw" into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:58] <Filthpig> murkyMurk: hmm, the manual for my TV says the best res for the tv is 1380x768 @ 60 hz o0
[06:59] <Borat> Visit www.bussamtal.se and www.alltplus.se
[06:59] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: sounds good..gutsy has a screens&cards GUI...dunno about Feisty
[06:59] <KefZz> Can anyone help me try to boot my ubuntu? I get an error when it is loading all the stuff
[06:59] <pigcom> Borat hello sir. I am pigcum. how are you?
[07:00] <IndyGunFreak> KefZz: well whats the error.
[07:00] <MasterShrek> Filthpig, what kind of video card do u have?
[07:00] <techknow> soundray: should I just do a reinstall of feisty?
[07:00] <Borat> Visit www.bussamtal.se and www.alltplus.se
[07:00] <KefZz> Well i get a Fatal server error, "No screens found"
[07:00] <techknow> I can back up all the data I need to...
[07:00] <xen_> very very strange, ive traced the dependencys back to libc6, which ive already got, which i need lib6-dev, so when i try lib6-dev it spits out The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:00] <techknow> which isn't much
[07:00] <xen_>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.5-0ubuntu14) but 2.6.1-1ubuntu7 is to be installed
[07:00] <KefZz> and it can`t boot the X server... whatever that is :P
[07:00] <Some_ux> Hi
[07:00] <xen_> but i already have libc6!?
[07:00] <MasterShrek> KefZz, the xserver is your graphical environment
[07:00] <Filthpig> MasterShrek: GF 7600GS
[07:00] <bobocopy> What's the problem, KefZz?
[07:00] <Roge> is there a way to flush out apt-get.. i messed with .deb files and dpkg and now apt-get wont install select packages that are available in an aptitude search
[07:00] <xen_> uh oh ive broken something havent i :S
[07:00] <namiwawa> i would like to install Java run time
[07:01] <namiwawa> whats the command to run
[07:01] <gnomefreak> Borat: what do those links have to do with ubuntu support?
[07:01] <soundray> techknow: it's a possibility, but before you do that, I'd see if you get an eth1 interface in a live CD session
[07:01] <namiwawa> after sudo apt-get
[07:01] <techknow> ok
[07:01] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: I've got two of those in SLi configuration
[07:01] <bobocopy> No screens found... when booting from your hard drive?
[07:01] <KefZz> Well the problem is i cant get ubuntu to run
[07:01] <Hilikus> hey guys
[07:01] <KefZz> No from CD-rom
[07:01] <soundray> techknow: but I can't get over that blacklist weirdness
[07:01] <soundray> techknow: did you reboot after the blacklist addition?
[07:01] <KefZz> It is on a Dell latitude D531
[07:01] <DayWalker> can any buddy help me ?
[07:01] <Some_ux> how do i run an application from rc.local, as a diffrent user ? (su username applicationname )?
[07:01] <Hilikus> hi do i start ubuntu in console mode? i read runlevel 5 is not the same in ubuntu
[07:01] <KefZz> I dont know if that has anything to do..?
[07:01] <MasterShrek> Filthpig, if you use nvidias driver from their website, it comes with a nice gui app that can detect the resolution of whatever you have plugged in
[07:01] <techknow> soundray: yes
[07:01] <techknow> multiple times
[07:01] <soundray> Hilikus: select Recovery grom the grub menu
[07:02] <Jowi> runemaste644, try this: sudo apt-get -t edgy install libgtk2.0-0
[07:02] <Veggie> I swear, most of these questions could be solved instantly with google >_>
[07:02] <techknow> btw loading the livecd now
[07:02] <Filthpig> murkyMurk, MasterShrek: hang on, I tried editing some lines according to the nvidia readme (from their download site) and will try to reboot X.. If I'm not back very soon I've probably messed something up :P
[07:02] <IndyGunFreak> Veggie: shhh, we all look brilliant when we fix these problems...lol
[07:02] <DayWalker> i don't have internet connection on Ubuntu becoz of VPN ..
[07:02] <Hilikus> soundray thats the only difference in that mode? i want everything as normal except no X
[07:02] <DayWalker> i am trying to setup
[07:02] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: lol, good luck
[07:02] <Roge> http://www.pastebin.ca/719789 <--- can someone help with this apt-get problem
[07:02] <DayWalker> but can't install nm
[07:02] <namiwawa> IndyGunFreak, how do i install java run time
[07:02] <soundray> techknow: I've never heard of a blacklist entry being ignored. I assume you've checked the spelling
[07:03] <Filthpig> MasterShrek: I know, but ol' crdlb almost ripped my spine out when I said I was using that and told me to use the repos version of the driver
[07:03] <namiwawa> using command
[07:03] <techknow> yeah
[07:03] <IndyGunFreak> namiwawa: search synaptic for java, and install it.
[07:03] <gnomefreak> namiwawa: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[07:03] <namiwawa> on the add/remove i got it
[07:03] <DayWalker> can any buddy tell me how can i install nm or other things without internet connection please ...
[07:03] <Filthpig> crdlb is God, so I listen to the guy :p
[07:03] <namiwawa> ahhhh ok thanks
[07:03] <MasterShrek> Filthpig, i ALWAYS use nvidia's drivers from their site
[07:03] <soundray> techknow: you could also delete the zd1211rw.ko file from the kernel module tree
[07:03] <murkyMurk> MasterShrek: nvidia-settings and nvidia-config are installed even with the restricted drivers pack
[07:03] <techknow> yeah
[07:03] <Roge> DayWalker,  some packs mite be availabe on the cd
[07:03] <KefZz> Okay i am on the ubuntu obot-menu now
[07:03] <JDStone> crap, I updated to gutsy and there are some broken packages
[07:03] <techknow> I might try that
[07:03] <KefZz> *boot-menu
[07:03] <MasterShrek> murkyMurk, i was not aware, cuz i never installed them lol
[07:03] <Filthpig> oh well, brb I hope ;)
[07:03] <KefZz> I have tried to use safe graphics mode but same error
[07:04] <soundray> Hilikus: no, recovery is single user. To stop X completely after booting, do a 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop'
[07:04] <soundray> Hilikus: to prevent X from coming up in the first place, do a 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[07:04] <Roge> ?
[07:04] <bobocopy> KefZz: Which version are you running?  Desktop or server?  6 or 7?
[07:04] <Veggie> Indy: Haha, but it's the best way to learn, in my opinion, because you tend to get a lot more information surrounding the subject with it. It's better than just a fix.
[07:04] <KefZz> 7.04
[07:04] <Some_ux> If i am root, do i need to provide a password when using the su command ?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> Some_ux: use sudo
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> Some_ux: why would you be root?.. use sudo
[07:05] <KefZz> PC edition i think lol
[07:05] <KefZz> I just got the cd in mail
[07:05] <bobocopy> And server or desktop?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Some_ux: ubuntu disables su
[07:05] <bobocopy> Oh, okay.
[07:05] <murkyMurk> Some_ux: su stands for Switch User, not Super User
[07:05] <Hilikus> soundray im trying to make my tv-out work so i want to remove xorg.conf to run X -configure again and get a xorg.conf that works for my TV, you think that sounds right?
[07:05] <Some_ux> i do not want to be root, visa versa, i want to run something as someone else when i am root
[07:05] <PhenGy> how come I cant run more then 6 processes on my shell? I loaded the 7th and 8th Eggdrop, but it doesnt show up on iRC
[07:05] <soundray> Hilikus: no
[07:05] <namiwawa> IndyGunFreak, ...it aint working
[07:05] <Filthpig> hmm
[07:05] <Hilikus> :S
[07:05] <soundray> Hilikus: have you been through the ubuntu help? Look:
[07:05] <IndyGunFreak> namiwawa: gthen you're doing something wrong.. did you search synaptic for java?
[07:05] <soundray> !tvout | Hilikus
[07:05] <techknow> soundray: I get a eth1 interface with the live cd
[07:05] <ubotu> Hilikus: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[07:05] <DayWalker> Roge:  i download files but when i try to install msg i got like this ---> The  support your system architecture..
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> !java
[07:06] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:06] <KefZz> I get to a blue screen and some text comes up when i try to boot/install
[07:06] <techknow> and I am connected to the net :/
[07:06] <Filthpig> well I'm back, but still no signal on the tv :/
[07:06] <techknow> soundray: any ideas what I should do then?
[07:06] <Some_ux> When i run scripts during boot in rc.local i am root. BUT i dont want to run certain servers as root,
[07:06] <PhenGy> how come I cant run more then 6 processes on my shell? I loaded the 7th and 8th Eggdrop, but it doesnt show up on iRC
[07:06] <techknow> just reinstall afresh?
[07:06] <namiwawa> IndyGunFreak,  i guess my question is how do you know what to type after sudo apt-get install
[07:06] <Roge> DayWalker,  it sounds like you downloaded files that where compiled for a cpu other then the one you have
[07:06] <soundray> techknow: that limits the source of the weirdness to your installation.
[07:06] <murkyMurk> Hilikus: errr, not usually, just edit the xorg.conf according to the insatructiosn given by your video card maker (ATi/NVidia/whatever)
[07:06] <namiwawa> how do you know the package name
[07:06] <techknow> yeah
[07:06] <IndyGunFreak> namiwawa: i told you, use synaptic
[07:06] <techknow> I'll just reinstall
[07:06] <techknow> I don't mind doing so
[07:06] <techknow> thanks for the help
[07:07] <soundray> techknow: that's what I'd do. Good luck
[07:07] <namiwawa> ok thanks
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> then you won't need to.
[07:07] <Some_ux> So my predicament is the reverse of that when using sudo
[07:07] <DayWalker> i have i386 intel pentium 4
[07:07] <KefZz> Okay this is full text of what comes up:  Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[07:07] <namiwawa> IndyGunFreak,  thanks for that
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> namiwawa: open synaptic package manager, and search for java, look for something like sunjava6jre, or something like that, and right click, mark for install, then click apply
[07:07] <bobocopy> KefZz:
[07:07] <bobocopy> I had the same problem.
[07:07] <DayWalker> i downloaded .deb files and .tar.gz
[07:07] <murkyMurk> Filthpig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 <<<< any help?
[07:07] <Hilikus> murkyMurk i tried to play with a lot of parameters in the file yesterday but none of them worked, i always get somethin on the TV, but its garbled, you can see the colors (i.e its trying to show the right thing) but its always garbled
[07:07] <gnomefreak> sun-java6-jre or plugin will also grab jre and bin for you
[07:07] <bobocopy> You can still run from the command line though, right?
[07:07] <KefZz> How did you fix it then bobocopy?
[07:08] <DayWalker> Rog: i downloaded .deb files and .tar.gz
[07:08] <KefZz> Yes
[07:08] <namiwawa> IndyGunFreak,  i did that but its taken a whole day  so i wanted to use the terminal
[07:08] <KefZz> i get a choice if i wanna see the diagnostic or not
[07:08] <IndyGunFreak> namiwawa: it takes a while to download and install.
[07:08] <KefZz> if i press no i get to the console
[07:08] <soundray> Hilikus: have you seen the ubotu factoid?
[07:08] <Hilikus> i guess i'll try patching Xorg
[07:08] <MasterShrek> KefZz, look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for lines that start with (EE)
[07:08] <namiwawa> IndyGunFreak,  i bet it does but not a whole day
[07:08] <bobocopy> Kef: I'll message you.
[07:08] <KefZz> Ty bobo
[07:08] <Hilikus> soundray maybe, but the name doesnt ring a bell
[07:08] <IndyGunFreak> namiwawa: hmmm, don't know...
[07:08] <Filthpig> murkyMurk: hang on, I ran nvidia-settings and enabled it, must restart X!
[07:08] <soundray> Hilikus: you're setting yourself up for pain and failure...
[07:09] <KefZz> and MasterShrek i don`t know how to look at that :p
[07:09] <Filthpig> bRb
[07:09] <namiwawa> IndyGunFreak,  ill use add/remove
[07:09] <Hilikus> soundray by patching?
[07:09] <soundray> Hilikus: watch your private messages
[07:09] <gnomefreak> namiwawa: depends on your net connection but it is big package
[07:09] <soundray> Hilikus: yes
[07:09] <namiwawa> synaptic cant find it
[07:09] <soundray> !tvout > Hilikus
[07:09] <namiwawa> gnomefreak, it doesnt take as long in windows
[07:09] <Some_ux> Also, i made a mistake. when creating the first user in the ubuntu install i gave the user my own name, when in effect, the default user is more of an administrator. So now i want to rename the user to admin
[07:09] <gnomefreak> namiwawa: dont know i stay away from windows, i use it maybe once a month
[07:10] <namiwawa> gnomefreak,  use to use it there thats how I can remember it
[07:10] <Some_ux> users that have private names, imo, should not have sudo privileges
[07:10] <Hilikus> soundray from that website if where i got the idea that i had to patch xorg
[07:10] <Esteth> Ubuntu does not appear to recognise my 965P motherboard's built in ethernet controller. What should i do to try and fix this?
[07:10] <Hilikus> is*
[07:10] <gnomefreak> Some_ux: users dont have admin rights at all unless you give it to them
[07:11] <IndyGunFreak> Esteth: open aterminal and type "lspci" no quotes, and see how its identifying the device,.
[07:11] <branstrom> How do I get a few pixels of padding between icons on my Gnome panel? Like "Applet Padding" at the bottom of this document: http://www.collaborium.org/onsite/jos2000/related/guides/gnome/confglobal.html
[07:11] <gnomefreak> the first user created at install is able to use sudo noone else
[07:11] <soundray> Hilikus: okay, if you feel you've got a good, reliable guide there, go ahead. But it certainly sounds like a Bad Idea(tm)
[07:11] <Some_ux> gnomefreak: when i do: id firstuser , i see that he belongs to admin (this is standart for ubuntu install)
[07:11] <Esteth> IndyGunFreak: I get quite a few devices there. What should i look for? There is only one Network Controller listed, and that's my PCI Wireless card, not the integrated ethernet card
[07:12] <MasterShrek> gnomefreak, if you add the other users to /etc/sudoers thell be able to
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Some_ux: yes becasue he installed ubuntu
[07:12] <osirisx11> hi all, is there a way to tell apt to always install the suggested related packages when i install a package?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> MasterShrek: i know
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> Esteth: then it would seem that whatever tyupe it is its not recognizing it.
[07:12] <Hilikus> soundray the fact that i do get an image but its garbled, do you think that suggests that the drivers are ok/xorg is ok, but i just need the right settings in xorg.conf?
[07:12] <Some_ux> gnomefreak: i wish him to be renamed to admin
[07:12] <Filthpig> hahahaha
[07:12] <Filthpig> yes
[07:12] <soundray> osirisx11: I think aptitude can do that for you
[07:12] <IndyGunFreak> Esteth: have you considered searching the net for card confirmed to work with Feisty, and buying a cheap $15 ethernet card?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Some_ux: why your not admin all the time
[07:12] <soundray> Hilikus: yes
[07:12] <ubunturos_> which section under synaptic has the darn GNOME BAKER
[07:12] <Filthpig> although I now have the two screens as different desktops
[07:12] <ubunturos_> which section under synaptic has the GNOME BAKER?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: just search for gnomebaker
[07:13] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: changing the settings in xorg.conf shoudl probably always be the first step
[07:13] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: I did, but
[07:13] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: should be under main
[07:13] <ubunturos_> doesn't list it in teh install window
[07:13] <bobocopy> Kef, are you getting my private messages?
[07:13] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: please name the section
[07:13] <osirisx11> like i just did apt-get install festival and at the end it says Suggested packages: festival-gaim Recommended packages: festvox-kallpc16k festival-voice---I'd like it to just take the initiative and install those, too for me. :)
[07:13] <MasterShrek> ubunturos_, it is case-sensitive, u know that right?
[07:13] <soundray> Hilikus: I can't claim much personal experience, though.
[07:13] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: try search for gnome and scroll than
[07:13] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: there's no mane
[07:13] <Some_ux> gnomefreak: best practice, i log a lot to that system remotely, and i dont wish to log to it with full privileges
[07:13] <ubunturos_> main*
[07:13] <Hilikus> howlingmadhowie i tried a lot of settings i found online yesterday and it never worked, but im not too familiar with taht conf file
[07:13] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: its in main
[07:13] <CyberMad> how to turn off the window animation when you minimize or maximize window?
[07:13] <MasterShrek> bobocopy, you both need to have registered nicks
[07:13] <ciddy> pclinuxos is beating ubuntu in distrowatch?
[07:13] <Esteth> IndyGunFreak: I've thought about it, but since this isn't really a critical issue(i want to bridge my ethernet connection to my wireless internet for Xbox live), even spending 15 is too much.
[07:14] <ciddy> when this happen?  <grin>
[07:14] <bobocopy> Wow.  Huge duh on my part.  Thanks, shrek.
[07:14] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: Synaptic doesn't list main
[07:14] <MasterShrek> ciddy, apparently, i dunno why tho, ive never really heard anything good about it
[07:14] <IndyGunFreak> Esteth: i see.. sorry, i really xcan't help.
[07:14] <soundray> osirisx11: why don't you just copy the list and paste it to the end of an apt-get install command?
[07:14] <gnomefreak> Some_ux: well if your logging it to a remote pc set up admin rights on that pc
[07:14] <ubunturos_> MasterShrek: though it lists the package, it doesn't list it in the installation window
[07:14] <osirisx11> soundray: no automatic way?
[07:14] <bobocopy> KefZz: sudo apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <bobocopy> then
[07:14] <soundray> osirisx11: I just told you, aptitude
[07:14] <osirisx11> i really hate when people say "well why don't you just"
[07:14] <bobocopy> KefZz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: sorry its in universe now
[07:14] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: seeing as i'm just jumping in now in the middle, i really don't know what's not working. if you could bring me up to speed in one line, maybe i could say something more constructive :)
[07:14] <Esteth> IndyGunFreak: Thanks for the help anyway :)
[07:14] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[07:14] <MrPink> hey, I've got a question, to install the newest version of Ubuntu (once it comes out) do I only have to install like a update, or do I have to reinstall the whole system ?
[07:14] <MasterShrek> ubunturos_, open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[07:14] <gnomefreak> MasterShrek: he cant
[07:15] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: universe of ?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> MasterShrek: he doesnt have universe enabled
[07:15] <soundray> osirisx11: some people don't know that you can feed apt-get multiple package names in one go
[07:15] <osirisx11> MrPink: you just change your apt lines to say gutsy and update! thats it, i just did it recently. worked great.
[07:15] <ubunturos_> MasterShrek: I cannot because, I'm helping my friend use synaptic
[07:15] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: !universe > ubunturos_
[07:15] <soundray> osirisx11: too bad you hate being helped here.
[07:15] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: please see the pm ubotu sent you
[07:15] <KefZz> bobocopy: is that going to erase anything from my pc?
[07:15] <Some_ux> gnomefreak: i want to use my login name for a more restricted login. and admin for the sudo stuff
[07:15] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: not yet
[07:15] <MasterShrek> ubunturos_, oh, did you enable extra repositories/
[07:15] <MasterShrek> ?
[07:15] <osirisx11> soundray: yeah i'm aware, i just dont know the related packages until after i get done, just looking for a setting somewhere that can do it.
[07:15] <Hilikus> howlingmadhowie tv-out looks garbled in my ubuntu box, you can see the colors but its all garbled, im using an ati radeon VC
[07:15] <ubunturos_> MasterShrek: gnome-baker requires backports?
[07:15] <howlingmadhowie> osirisx11: cool :) that works? i was scared of trying
[07:16] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: its gnomebaker
[07:16] <kbrooks> how do i know how much memory a program takes?
[07:16] <MasterShrek> ubunturos_, i think its in universe
[07:16] <bobocopy> KefZz: It will uninstall the desktop package, then the second line will reinstall it.
[07:16] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: ok, I'll try again
[07:16] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: top is a good start
[07:16] <MrPink> osirisx11 where do I change the apt lines ?
[07:16] <KefZz> ok im trying it
[07:16] <soundray> howlingmadhowie: it's not recommended prior to the release, though
[07:16] <osirisx11> howlingmadhowie: yeah works great, but they wont talk much about it here as gutsy isnt supported yet, ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:16] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: you have to enable universe repos before you can get it
[07:16] <MasterShrek> kbrooks, gnome-system-monitor
[07:16] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: is tv out a connection to a pal or an ntsc tv?
[07:16] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, gives me inaccuracy...
[07:16] <osirisx11> MrPink: see my msg to howlingmadhowie
[07:16] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: the universe is enabled
[07:16] <KefZz> bobocopy: Got this - "E: invalid operation uninstall"
[07:16] <Hilikus> howlingmadhowie ntsc-m
[07:16] <ciddy> i agree
[07:16] <ciddy> pclinuxos is a mandriva fork
[07:16] <ciddy> it sucks :P
[07:16] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: than searching in synaptic for gnomebaker should give it to you
[07:17] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: unles you enabled the backports-universe
[07:17] <MrPink> can't find it, can you paste & Copy ?
[07:17] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: oh, backports :(
[07:17] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: if just the colours are garbled, that's a pretty good sign. i've never done anything like that myself, however, so i really can't help :(
[07:17] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: you dont want backports
[07:17] <DayWalker> how do i install .TAR fiels ?
[07:17] <gnomefreak> ubunturos_: you want reg. universe
[07:17] <DayWalker> command ?
[07:17] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: well, my friend has to do it
[07:17] <gnomefreak> DayWalker: you unpack it and read the README and INSTALL files
[07:17] <Hilikus> howlingmadhowie so im trying to run X -configure again just with the TV (when in text mode the tv works fine) but everytime i try to run it, it crashes, and i cant see the stupid reason
[07:17] <bobocopy> KefZz: Sorry, I'm not great with the command stuff.  "sudo apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop"
[07:17] <ubunturos_> gnomefreak: I use the command line and can do it. My friend cannot, currently
[07:18] <KefZz> now it worked...
[07:18] <KefZz> i think :P
[07:18] <DayWalker> i want to setup my VPN connection
[07:18] <MrPink> osirisx11 I can't find your explanation, can you copy & paste it, or just say again ?
[07:18] <shadowspider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=562980
[07:18] <gnomefreak> bobocopy: that isnt gonna do much of anything but remove the package ubuntu-desktop not everything it installed
[07:18] <shadowspider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=562980
[07:18] <KefZz> and bobocopy, youre better than me ;P
[07:18] <osirisx11> MrPink:  howlingmadhowie: yeah works great, but they wont talk much about it here as gutsy isnt supported yet, ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:19] <kbrooks> how do i make the laptop charge faster and/or take less battery power?
[07:19] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: when you're just in text mode, linux doesn't use the 3d driver. it's strange that X -configure crashes.
[07:19] <pigcom> in what file is all the gnome settings configuations i made saved?
[07:19] <bobocopy> Gnomefreak: I just remember that when I had kef's problem I did that, then reinstalled, and it worked.  Was probably black magic, though.
[07:19] <MrPink> osirisx11 yeah I know that it isn't supported and I will wait to install it until it is officially released... but I just want to know how exactly I can install it once it is released...
[07:19] <kbrooks> how do i make the laptop charge faster and/or take less battery power?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> howlingmadhowie: is he in text mode or did he leave gdm open and just used ctrl+alt+F#
[07:20] <howlingmadhowie> osirisx11: i'll wait untill it's released, i think. though i was planning on trying an rpm based distro on one of my boxes.
[07:20] <ciddy> ubuntu 7.10 should rock
[07:20] <kbrooks> i need to know
[07:20] <kbrooks> please
[07:20] <howlingmadhowie> gnomefreak: good point :)
[07:20] <gnomefreak> !repeat | kbrooks
[07:20] <ubotu> kbrooks: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:20] <Hilikus> gnomefreak im stopping gdm and ctrl alt backspace
[07:20] <gnomefreak> mindrape: that doesnt stop it
[07:20] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: that restarts it
[07:20] <finalbeta> how do I start a task from a ssh shell. close the shell, come back later, still have it running?
[07:21] <KefZz> bobocopy: I get an error, "unable to fetch some archives"
[07:21] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: i think gdm automatically spawns again if you enter ctrl-alt-backspace. try stopping it with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:21] <Hilikus> i thought if gdm wasnt runnig it wouldnt restart it
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: you need to stop gdm not restart it (hence why X is crashing in tty
[07:21] <soundray> kbrooks: the hardware determines how fast it charges, so you'd have to buy a new one.
[07:21] <bobocopy> KefZz: is that it?
[07:21] <bjame1> I've installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop, but the font handling is terrible - does anyone know how to disable the drop shadows on text like desktop icons and window title bars?
[07:21] <kbrooks> soundray, what about battery usage?
[07:21] <matye> how do i find out which agpgart kernel module is keeping the nvidia drivers from using the nvidia agpgart module? there does not seem to be a agpgart module present in lsmod
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: define not running?
[07:22] <soundray> kbrooks: to reduce power consumption, install and configure laptop-mode-tools
[07:22] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: you can of course check to see if gdm is running (ps aux | grep gdm)
[07:22] <KefZz> bobocopy: WEll theres some more umm, "could not resolve
[07:22] <shadowspider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=562980
[07:22] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: you would have had to run a command or so to stop it
[07:22] <Hilikus> gnomefreak i stop gdm and then stop X by using ctrl alt back (or so i thought
[07:22] <ciddy> with SCOX down for the count FINALLY
[07:22] <KefZz> bobocopy: "could not resolve archive.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <ciddy> ubuntu has nowhere to go but up
[07:22] <ciddy> :)
[07:22] <volantares> see you all
[07:22] <kbrooks> soundray, whats that?
[07:22] <ivo> you my frend
[07:22] <bobocopy> Can you ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:23] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts gdm if stopped or not, if you stop it drop to tty (without ctrl+alt+delete) than it will be stoped and you will be in tty
[07:23] <Hilikus> whats tty??
[07:23] <soundray> !info laptop-mode-tools | kbrooks
[07:23] <bjame1> telitypwriter
[07:23] <ubotu> kbrooks: laptop-mode-tools: Scripts to spin down hard drive and save power. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 92 kB, installed size 352 kB
[07:23] <ivo> not
[07:23] <bjame1> tele*
[07:24] <bjame1> (terminal)
[07:24] <soundray> !info laptop-mode | kbrooks
[07:24] <ubotu> kbrooks: laptop-mode: laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 88 kB
[07:24] <ivo> jumping is not
[07:24] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  than ctrl+alt+F2
[07:24] <Hilikus> cool
[07:24] <Hilikus> will do
[07:24] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: you will than be out of X all togethere
[07:24] <gnomefreak> together
[07:24] <soundray> kbrooks: try laptop-mode-tools first, as it's in main. Also search the web for the Battery HOWTO (although that's a bit outdated, I believe)
[07:24] <gnomefreak> Hilikus: crtl+alt+backspace or rebooting will bring X gdm back up
[07:25] <howlingmadhowie> Hilikus: the ttyX are the "virtual terminal devices". when unix was devised, people used to log on to a single unix computer from a number of terminals (basically just keyboards and monitors).
[07:25] <lesshaste>  is there a good tool to detect unencrypted wireless networks?
[07:25] <kbrooks> soundray, um, spinning down the hard drive is not going to save power if you use the laptop a lot everyday to save files, etc.
[07:25] <soundray> kbrooks: finally, have a look at tuxmobil.org for general laptop unix advice, and probably install reports from other people who own the same model.
[07:25] <kbrooks> lesshaste, we cannot help you wiuth that.
[07:26] <bjame1> !info laptop-mode | bjame1
[07:26] <soundray> kbrooks: it's great how you know that my advice won't work before you've even looked properly into the package and its documentation.
[07:27] <nimbo> lesshaste: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[07:27] <kbrooks> soundray, i've heard that spinning down tthe hard drive wastes power when it has to start up again, but okay i will do that
[07:27] <saxin> where do I change the number of desktops in ubuntu?
[07:28] <bobocopy> Right-click on the desktops box
[07:28] <bobocopy> (or boxes), saxin
[07:28] <lesshaste> nimbo: that sounds simple :)
[07:28] <saxin> bobocopy: any other way to do that?
[07:28] <bobocopy> Saxin: Then choose preferences.
[07:28] <bobocopy> Hm...
[07:28] <ivo> bey
[07:28] <g[r] eek> Hi - I have IPTables configured in a file (iptables.conf) - I want to call "iptables-restore < iptables.conf" everytime my server boots up automatically - what is the best way to do this?
[07:29] <soundray> kbrooks: spinning down the hard drive isn't the only thing that laptop-mode-tools do. And, yes, especially if your computer has a 2.5in drive, spinning it does save power for most laptop-typical applications. Whether it works for you, you'll have to work out for yourself.
[07:29] <lesshaste> nimbo: there's an amazing tool for windows that shows something like a dart board which the wireless networks move about dynamically depending on the signal strength
[07:29] <erUSUL> g[r] eek: use /etc/rc.local or make a custom script in /etc/init.d/ then add that to the boot process with update-rc.d
[07:30] <bobocopy> Saxin, are you looking for a way to do it from the command line?
[07:30] <soundray> *spinning it DOWN
[07:30] <nekisia> hi there someone from greece?
[07:30] <tiagoboldt> Hi, need help installing an usb wireless receiver from SMC, i've installed the driver (with ndiswrapper) but it only works if I plug it in after booting. I guess there's an module that's not letting it work.. any ideas?
[07:30] <howlingmadhowie> kbrooks: it's a pretty difficult decision, when to spin down the harddrive. if the operating system could know that the harddrive wasn't going to be used for a number of minutes, then it would make sense. one just needs to find a good algorithm
[07:30] <soundray> !gr | nekisia
[07:30] <ubotu> nekisia: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[07:30] <g[r] eek> erUSUL: I considered that. With a custom script I typically have start / stop blocks - but in this case I just want to execute one command at boot - is that what rc.local is for?
[07:30] <nekisia> thank you!!
[07:30] <saxin> bobocopy: yes, or graphical.. i dont care.. I just need to do it from another place than dobbel-click the desktops and choose preferences :p
[07:30] <nimbo> lesshaste: http://www.wardrive.net/wardriving/tools
[07:30] <babo> Guys, I need to get .. Villager The from rel='bppost'>Villager The</a> ... using sed or grep. Can someone help ?
[07:31] <bobocopy> Saxin: How come?  Is it not on your deskbars?
[07:31] <saxin> bobocopy: it is.. but I get so freaking many
[07:31] <saxin> lol
[07:31] <erUSUL> g[r] eek: yes. open it with an editor and read the top file comments
[07:31] <lesshaste> nimbo: ok thanks. That stuff always seems to be related to cracking peoples' networks but maybe it will be relevant for unencrypted stuff too
[07:31] <alcoholic> I have installed ubuntu working fine just wanted to know how to enable hibernate in GUI
[07:31] <alcoholic> i.e. gnome
[07:31] <saxin> I think it may have something with compiz-fusion to do?
[07:31] <g[r] eek> erUSUL: Thank you.
[07:31] <soundray> babo: grep 'searchstring' files
[07:31] <erUSUL> g[r] eek: no problem
[07:32] <soundray> babo: note the single quotes - they should make it work
[07:32] <nimbo> lesshaste: thats the same stuff, but easier, because no encryption ... eh?
[07:32] <alcoholic> ??
[07:32] <bobocopy> Saxin: What do you mean "you get so many"?
[07:32] <babo> soundray: you what ?
[07:32] <lesshaste> nimbo: fair enough :) I just want it to beep when it finds an open network :))
[07:32] <krunk-> how's ubuntu on headless installs? Something like a livecd that enables ssh and a default account that I can ssh into and do a cli install
[07:32] <xen_> hey there i just tried  sudo apt-get install build-essential and i got The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:32] <xen_>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[07:32] <xen_>                             libc-dev
[07:32] <xen_>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:32] <xen_> E: Broken packages
[07:32] <DIL> Is there a chat for sql usage in ubuntu?
[07:32] <erUSUL> !paste | xen_
[07:32] <ubotu> xen_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:32] <soundray> babo: if you need to ask details, try being a bit more polite.
[07:32] <xen_> lol
[07:32] <xen_> sorry
[07:33] <gnomefreak> xen_: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:33] <gnomefreak> xen_: use that as i typed it
[07:33] <gnomefreak> nop ackage listed
[07:33] <gnomefreak> no package listed even
[07:33] <xen_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:33] <babo> soundray: sorry - I didn't mean to sound impolite. But I'm not sure I understand the reply. I'm not just using a standard grep call ...
[07:33] <Gedeon> How to cnect ircHispano?
[07:33] <krunk-> or should I use like a gentoo livecd (which does this) then scp the imaage over and install from it?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> xen_: feisty?
[07:33] <xen_> :S
[07:33] <xen_> yup
[07:33] <xen_> feisty
[07:33] <DIL> i have SQL enabled and need to connect to it
[07:34] <gnomefreak> xen_: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:34] <randee> what's the command line program to help you switch window managers?
[07:34] <xen_> i just did that
[07:34] <xen_> thats what my first paste was lol
[07:34] <gnomefreak> xen_: no it wasnt
[07:34] <gnomefreak> xen_: you used apt-get
[07:34] <gnomefreak> i said use aptitude
[07:34] <xen_> ahhh ok
[07:34] <gnomefreak> xen_: you might be missing the src repos
[07:34] <xen_> wait... whats the difference?
[07:35] <jnuzzo> randee: just make a text file in your home dir named .Xsession and put the start script / location to the window managers binary
[07:35] <gnomefreak> aptitude handles dependencies differently
[07:35] <gnomefreak> xen_: make sure you enabled all src repos in sources.list
[07:35] <xen_> hmm it wants to downgrade me because of linux-headers-2.6.22-12-generic
[07:35] <xen_> yup
[07:35] <randee> jnuzzo, i just remember using a command-line program to do it
[07:35] <howlingmadhowie> randee: if you haven't got automatic login switched on, you'll be able to select from the available window managers on the login screen
[07:35] <gnomefreak> yes
[07:35] <Gedeon> hola?
[07:35] <gnomefreak> xen_: you shouldnt have that kernel on there
[07:35] <soundray> babo: will be back with you in a minute
[07:35] <xen_> oh ok, ill use the other one then
[07:36] <Gedeon> hay algun canal de espaa?
[07:36] <LjL> !es | Gedeon
[07:36] <ubotu> Gedeon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:36] <nekisia> can anyone help me??i m totaly noob in linux os!!
[07:36] <jnuzzo> I just find .Xsession so much easier, I even have a script to replace them =]
[07:36] <BoToXx> www.faspeed.de nice Photos from a nice Girl ^^
[07:36] <Gedeon> thanks!
[07:36] <bazhang> sure!
[07:36] <jrib> nekisia: sure, just ask your question
[07:36] <gnomefreak> xen_: mixing packages like that will only cause you headaches
[07:36] <MikeGraham> nekisia: Feel free to ask anything.
[07:36] <tiagoboldt> Hi, need help installing an usb wireless receiver from SMC, i've installed the driver (with ndiswrapper) but it only works if I plug it in after booting. I guess there's an module that's not letting it work.. any ideas?
[07:36] <g[r] eek> erUSUL: Which is best practise: adding "iptables-restore < iptables.conf" to rc.local (having already iptables-saved a file with iptables setting called iptables.conf), or adding the actual "iptables -t nat -A..." commands to rc.local?
[07:36] <nekisia> thanks jrib
[07:36] <Stephen> hello?
[07:37] <bazhang> hi.
[07:37] <Stephen> hi
[07:37] <Hilikus> is there a way to generate a xorg.conf assisted by a wizard? or something that let me test the setttings ?
[07:37] <nekisia> can we open a window just for us cause i m confused with all this messages?
[07:37] <murlidhar> err i want  to install ubuntu on my friends pc  and he doesn't have an internet connection . Is there any way to install the binary packages from my pc????
[07:37] <Gedeon> man /j
[07:37] <Gedeon> ummmmmmmmm
[07:37] <LjL> Hilikus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:37] <Gedeon> the command to enter a channel is '/j'?
[07:37] <Stephen> no no
[07:37] <Hilikus> when i run X -configure i get a list of the drivers and then Fatal server error, caught signal 11
[07:37] <LjL> Gedeon: /join
[07:37] <LjL>  /j also works on some clients
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Sp4rKy: i suggest just asking your question since neither of us really want 1000+ poeple to say hi at once
[07:38] <murlidhar> i heard something about aptoncd or aptgetcd which does this
[07:38] <Stephen> gah
[07:38] <jnuzzo> hey guys, I'm having trouble setting up a network printer, its simply not detecting it, I have detect network printers checked on the client machine and share printers on the server machine any other steps I should take?
[07:38] <MikeGraham> Gedeon: The full command is /join. Use it like, ``/join #channelname''.
[07:38] <Hilikus> LjL can i run that from a console?
[07:38] <jrib> nekisia: just pose your question here to the channel.  Then if someone knows the answer, they will respond.  Just make sure you prefix what you say to someone with their name so that the hilight works
[07:38] <LjL> Hilikus: sure
[07:38] <murlidhar> am i correct? if i am can u guide me the correct way to do it?
[07:38] <Gedeon> now it work! i havent the #
[07:38] <dgjones> murlidhar, could you not just download the livecd and burn it to a cd and install from that?
[07:39] <g[r] eek> erUSUL: Which is best practise: adding "iptables-restore < iptables.conf" to rc.local (having already iptables-saved a file with iptables setting called iptables.conf), or adding the actual "iptables -t nat -A..." commands to rc.local?
[07:39] <usser> murlidhar: this guide might be of help http://www.howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories
[07:39] <Stephen> hey. does anyone think they can help me get ubuntu to insatll?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> murlidhar: what are you tring to upgrade from > to?
[07:39] <nekisia> ok then,i cant built the binutils-2.18
[07:39] <Stephen> I downloaded the the download. and burned it to a disk as slow as possible but it wont boot load
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Stephen: download the ISo and bur it to cd than boot from the cd
[07:40] <howlingmadhowie> where's the problem, stephen? how far does it get?
[07:40] <murlidhar> well i do not want download all the applications again for my friends pc.
[07:40] <Stephen> It doesnt thats the thing
[07:40] <gnomefreak> Stephen: than the md5sums are not right or a bad burn
[07:40] <jrib> Stephen: did you "burn as image"?
[07:40] <soundray> babo: can you rephrase your problem for me pls?
[07:40] <Stephen> i used the basic windows burning program
[07:40] <jrib> !burn > Stephen (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:40] <gnomefreak> Stephen: you have to burn it as image not as file
[07:40] <deepfreez> How i can resolved this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39039/ ?
[07:40] <usser> murlidhar: then aptoncd
[07:40] <jrib> Stephen: the link ubotu gave you, has step by step instructions on how to burn it on windows.  Can you try those?
[07:41] <murlidhar> usser: any user guide?
[07:41] <Stephen> I did most of them. but no luck =\ ill re read them just incase i missed somthing
[07:41] <saxin> how do I enable an samba user?
[07:42] <usser> murlidhar: its pretty straightforward just install it and then u'll have a nice gui that lets u copy your packages to a dvd
[07:42] <babo> soundray: I need to get the string .. "Villager The" from the string "rel='bppost'>Villager The</a>"
[07:42] <babo> using bash
[07:42] <murlidhar> usser: thnks
[07:42] <usser> murlidhar: once u start it there's like one huge button u cant miss it )))
[07:42] <soundray> babo: echo "string "rel='bppost'>Villager The</a>" | cut -d ">" -f 2 | cut -d "<" -f 1
[07:43] <astate> I'm trying install suphp on a LAMP server and getting this error: php5-cgi: Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.1-0ubuntu1) but 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.4 is to be installed
[07:43] <soundray> babo: not exactly, but that's the principle I'd try.
[07:43] <murlidhar> usser: so will it automatically install all the applications???
[07:43] <Stephen> can i burn the CD in a NON windows computer? such as my current mepis PC?
[07:43] <erUSUL> g[r] eek: i think that the actual iptables commands are more usual
[07:44] <gnomefreak> astate: why do you have the differnet verseion? who built it where did you get it from
[07:44] <soundray> babo: alternatively, if you have several of those in a file, do 'cat file | tr "<" "\n" | tr ">" "\n"' and further filter the output for what you're looking for.
[07:44] <bazhang> stephen: yes.
[07:44] <patrick__> techknow
[07:44] <usser> murlidhar: it backs up your packages first and then on other comp u just need to install aptoncd and restore from cd
[07:44] <gnomefreak> astate: i know not from repos since we dont use .# on official packages
[07:44] <stueycaster> I'm using ubuntu 7.04 for the first time right now.
[07:44] <Stephen> bazhang, do you know what program i should probably use?
[07:44] <techknow> does anyone know if beryl & compiz are still maintained?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> astate: aptitude install <packagename> should fix it or apt-get -f install
[07:44] <terracon> Stephen, k3b
[07:44] <techknow> I heard someone saying that on or the other wasnt
[07:44] <babo> soundray:  thanks
[07:44] <bazhang> do you see gnomebaker?
[07:45] <stueycaster> I'll probably be in here often trying to learn to use it
[07:45] <techknow> and that there was another project that replaced it?
[07:45] <tretle> Can anyone point me towards getting an old wintv analog tv card running in ubuntu?
[07:45] <murlidhar> usser: ah i see so it can also be used as a restore disk.
[07:45] <tiagoboldt> Hi, need help installing an usb wireless receiver from SMC, i've installed the driver (with ndiswrapper) but it only works if I plug it in after booting. I guess there's an module that's not letting it work.. any ideas?
[07:45] <astro76> techknow, beryl was a fork of compiz and now they've merged back into compiz-fusion
[07:45] <techknow> ok
[07:45] <usser> murlidhar: but there's always but, )) since your friends comp is different from yours some of the apps may be your comp specific, so after restore u may want to get rid of some junk that your friend dont need
[07:45] <stueycaster> Do I need antivirus and firewall?
[07:45] <murlidhar> usser: for apps of cource. Thnks
[07:45] <kbrooks> !info laptop-mode-tools
[07:45] <ubotu> laptop-mode-tools: Scripts to spin down hard drive and save power. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 92 kB, installed size 352 kB
[07:45] <jrib> !firewall > stueycaster (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:45] <soundray> techknow: have you reinstalled already?
[07:45] <techknow> so I need to install compiz-fusoin
[07:45] <techknow> soundray: yeah
[07:45] <Stephen> also. would anyone know how to Set up my direct rendering?
[07:46] <techknow> networking is working
[07:46] <astro76> techknow, compiz-fusion is what will come by default in gutsy, btw
[07:46] <jrib> stueycaster: no; not with a default install
[07:46] <techknow> ok
[07:46] <soundray> techknow: that was quick. Well done
[07:46] <usser> Stephen: what card do u have?
[07:46] <techknow> soundray: thanks
[07:46] <stueycaster> ok
[07:46] <gnomefreak> Stephen: use restricted-manager to install 3d drivers
[07:46] <Stephen> I installed my ATI 9200 drivers
[07:46] <soundray> !compiz | techknow
[07:46] <ubotu> techknow: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:46] <deepfreez> How i can resolved this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39039/ ?
[07:46] <techknow> I need to install the proper nvidia driver now
[07:46] <usser> Stephen: from where?
[07:46] <stueycaster> ok I'll be back
[07:46] <gnomefreak> or of course some ati card dont have dri support
[07:46] <usser> Stephen: ati site?
[07:46] <Stephen> yes
[07:46] <techknow> it did the job nicely last time
[07:46] <Stephen> usser, yes
[07:46] <soundray> !nvidia | techknow (don't be tempted by envy, automatix and friends!)
[07:46] <ubotu> techknow (don't be tempted by envy, automatix and friends!): To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <Stephen> gnomefreak, Where can i find the restricted manager
[07:47] <usser> Stephen: 9200 is not supported anymore by ati's binary driver
[07:47] <gnomefreak> techknow: if on feisty use the restricted-manager to install them
[07:47] <Stephen> usser, really?
[07:47] <Stephen> so then what would i do for my video drivers =\
[07:47] <techknow> soundray: so I should do it manually?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> Stephen: system>prefferences>restricted manager or adim one of the 2 on feisty iirc
[07:47] <kbrooks> question, i want to replace firefox with something that doesnt consume memory?
[07:47] <techknow> well first I need to get open-ssh up and running
[07:47] <kbrooks> whast do i replace ffox with?'
[07:47] <techknow> rather than running between 2 computers
[07:47] <branstrom> How do I get a few pixels of padding between icons on my Gnome panel? Like "Applet Padding" at the bottom of this document: http://www.collaborium.org/onsite/jos2000/related/guides/gnome/confglobal.html
[07:48] <soundray> techknow: no -- follow the advice on that URL that ubotu sent
[07:48] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: removing firefox is not a good idea
[07:48] <bazhang> kbrooks: try Opera
[07:48] <soundray> techknow: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[07:48] <wolfsong> I'm in a root terminal trying to create a directory in /mnt and getting "cannot create directory 'test': Permission denied
[07:48] <usser> Stephen: oh wait, whats the version of your driver?
[07:48] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, i dont want to remove it
[07:48] <SlimeyPete> kbrooks: opera's a bit "lighter", but all modern browsers have a tendency to eat large chunks of memory IME
[07:48] <wolfsong> how did I loose permissions as root?
[07:48] <bazhang> mutt?
[07:48] <SlimeyPete> kbrooks: dillo is tiny, but doesn't work very well
[07:49] <ray_>  whats the beta 7.10 roomalled c
[07:49] <gnomefreak> replacve == remove and install something else
[07:49] <techknow> thanks soundray
[07:49] <usser> Stephen: 8.28.8?
[07:49] <Milbur> <-- About to install ubuntu or kubuntu. I'm trying to determine whether KDE or Gnome is better for customizing (i.e login screen and desktop look) and also if one or the other is better to use with Beryl/Compiz 3D cube and advanced desktop effects. I'm running a core 2 duo with an nvidia 7900. Thanks.
[07:49] <Stephen> usser, 8.40.4
[07:49] <techknow> been a great help to me today
[07:49] <deepfreez> i running kubuntu, how i can fix the drivers for video ...?
[07:49] <techknow> one appreciates it
[07:49] <ray_> whats the beta ubuntu 7.10 room called
[07:49] <ray_> ?
[07:49] <usser> Stephen: 8.28.8 was the latest that supported it
[07:49] <ray_> any help
[07:49] <ray_> here
[07:49] <soundray> techknow: well, one does what one can...
[07:49] <dgjones> !gutsy | ray_
[07:49] <ubotu> ray_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:49] <ray_> for my q
[07:50] <Stephen> im running mepis right now because im having problems getting ubuntu started
[07:50] <Stephen> im working on that now though
[07:50] <Stephen> so i dont know if the versions are diffrent
[07:50] <asoka> Is there an app that will repartition non-destructively.. ie, without making me reinstall?
[07:51] <erUSUL> !envy | techknow
[07:51] <ubotu> techknow: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:51] <bazhang> is Mepis KDE?
[07:51] <Stephen> yes
[07:51] <soundray> asoka: gparted
[07:51] <asoka> Thanks.
[07:51] <Stephen> My Gparted is broken =\ wont load XD
[07:51] <LuCypher> hi, I can't get java plugin working on amd64
[07:51] <Milburr> <--- Was disconnected, not sure if someone answered my question...
[07:51] <soundray> asoka: best to run it from a live CD
[07:51] <erUSUL> Stephen: parted from command line?
[07:51] <jrib> LuCypher: sun does not have a java plugin for 64bit
[07:51] <soundray> Milburr: repeat your question pls
[07:51] <LuCypher> I've tried to install ia32-sun
[07:52] <jrib> !flash64 > LuCypher (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:52] <Stephen> erUSUL, if i open the Gparted program it wont ever load. just keeps scanning
[07:52] <astate> gnomefreak: I got it through apt-get...I'm on Feisty, and I set up pinning for Gutsy, but the only thing I've installed from gutsy is the latest version of rails
[07:52] <soundray> Stephen: best to run gparted from a live CD
[07:52] <ShakaGoldSaint> anyone knows where i  can gt a decent last-exit package for feisty?, the one in main crashes when I try to select a different station, and the one I got from saint google with the save patch only plays a track for like 2 seconds and then mutes :(
[07:52] <bjame1> seeing as how it's gone quite, I'm going to repeat my original question (apologies for those who may have previously read it)
[07:52] <bazhang> Gutsy is amazing...
[07:52] <astate> I've tried apt-get -f install already, and it didn't fix it
[07:52] <xsystemx> Anyone know of a floppy utility that would help me simulate a PXE rom and let me install OS via RIS?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> astate: that is a very good way to break your system and is not supported official
[07:52] <Stephen> ok
[07:52] <Stephen> well ima reboot.
[07:52] <Milburr> Ok, well im about to install ubuntu/kubuntu. I'm wondering whether KDE or Gnome is better/more advanced for customizing (i.e login screen, desktop look etc) and wheter one or the other is better to use iwth beryl/compiz. Thanks
[07:52] <astate> and apt-get install php-common tells me its already installed
[07:52] <Stephen> my burning cd rom is turned off for some reason
[07:53] <Stephen> be back moment
[07:53] <bjame1> does anyone know how to turn off text drop shadows?
[07:53] <astate> well I had to have the latest version of rails, but I'm positive the only thing that came from Gutsy was rails-1.2.3-2 (or something close to that)
[07:53] <soundray> bjame1: in what application?
[07:53] <petru> hello guys? so, after i installed xorg and xgl drivers for my ati x1300 card, it seems that i dont have anymore the restart and shutdown options ( icons). what to do to get them back?
[07:53] <bazhang> Milburr: that's a loaded question; depends on which theme you prefer, mostly. KDE is shinier, no question.
[07:53] <kbrooks> um, ok, i want firefox to use much less memory and start up faster.
[07:54] <soundray> Milburr: KDE is also more configurable. Gnome tends to be more prescriptive
[07:54] <Milburr> bazhang: Im interested in doing some major customization to the login screen and desktop look.
[07:54] <astate> I installed webmin using its installer, but I installed php, apache, mysql and all of that from the ubuntu repository first
[07:54] <patrick__> w
[07:54] <vanchu> good morning, and heres the stupied question of the day ... how do you move dll files with wine ?
[07:54] <Milburr> soundray: thx
[07:54] <LuCypher> jrib : I've thought that ia32-sun-java could work with firefox64
[07:54] <saxin> vanchu: good morning? :P
[07:54] <astate> using a tutorial "perfect ubuntu setup" on howtoforge
[07:54] <kbrooks> um, ok, i want firefox to use much less memory and start up faster. what do i do?
[07:54] <LuCypher> jrib : so I have to install firefox32
[07:54] <petru> hello guys? so, after i installed xorg and xgl drivers for my ati x1300 card, it seems that i dont have anymore the restart and shutdown options ( icons). what to do to get them back?
[07:54] <wolfsong> I've lost root pe4rmissions to /mnt...any ideas
[07:54] <vanchu> its the morning for me
[07:54] <techknow> what was the link to install compiz-fusion again anyone?
[07:54] <vanchu> lol
[07:55] <Milburr> Also, does kde or gnome allow  there to be video in the background of the login screen?
[07:55] <soundray> kbrooks: first of all, you don't repeat yourself within a minute if you don't get an immediate reply
[07:55] <saxin> I'm going to bed in a few hours
[07:55] <vanchu> I work nights so I just woke up
[07:55] <jrib> LuCypher: yes, as far as I know.  Or, you can use blackdown java which has a 64bit pluugin but it's something like java 1.4.2
[07:55] <bazhang> techknow: just get gutsy
[07:55] <techknow> ok...
[07:55] <techknow> will an update through apt do it?
[07:56] <jrib> LuCypher: look at the date on http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695 .  It's kind of ridiculous
[07:56] <bazhang> it's enabled by default; I think you can do a dist-upgrade.
[07:56] <soundray> Milburr: you can run any application on the login screen, but it can be hard to set up and a security nightmare.
[07:56] <hacker> hhhhfff
[07:56] <hacker> gbggdsghed
[07:56] <hacker> hdh
[07:57] <soundray> Milburr: again, I would expect this to be a bit easier with KDE's kdm than gnome's gdm.
[07:57] <techknow> bazhang: will an apt update do the same?
[07:57] <LuCypher> jrib : ahahahah
[07:57] <saxin> how can I reinstall grub?
[07:57] <bazhang> techknow: I believe it's call a dist-upgrade; I would just back up my files and do a clean install--this is still a beta, though.
[07:58] <techknow> I'll wait I think
[07:58] <LuCypher> jrib : already tried 1.4 blackdown and gcj version, but doesn't works with the applet I want to use
[07:58] <soundray> kbrooks: look into swiftfox
[07:58] <jrib> LuCypher: I'd use the 32bit firefox then
[07:58] <kbrooks> soundray, i don't trust that program
[07:58] <astate> gnomefreak: I did an apt-get remove php5-common, and then reinstalled all of the packages it removed, and it seems to be working
[07:58] <LuCypher> jrib : are you on amd64?
[07:58] <jrib> LuCypher: I am
[07:59] <LuCypher> jrib : is there some benefits for desktop everyday use?
[07:59] <Stephen> ok
[07:59] <bazhang> techknow: probably a wise choice--the final is out in just a couple weeks anyway.
[07:59] <Stephen> Who was helping me to learn how to burn a copy of Ubuntu correctly?
[07:59] <techknow> yeah
[07:59] <bazhang> I was
[07:59] <Stephen> ah yes