[01:00] <rick_h_> greg-g: http://www.renaissancewoodworker.com/jeffs-dining-table-part-1/
[02:39] <shakes808> Hello all
[02:39] <rick_h_> howdy
[02:39] <shakes808> Can someone help me with some GIT? Testing things out to merge files and resolve conflicts
[02:40] <shakes808> I can't find anything that is really useful
[02:40] <shakes808> GitHub won't merge the files because of conflicts
[02:40] <shakes808> I can do a git diff on the files
[02:40] <shakes808> how do I merge lines over?
[02:41] <rick_h_> you edit the files
[02:41] <rick_h_> and then resolve them with git add XX
[02:41] <shakes808> So I can't do a diff and merge only parts of files over via the command line?
[02:42] <shakes808> So, what? Go into my file and add in those lines?
[02:42] <rick_h_> well I guess how did you get to where you are now?
[02:44] <shakes808> My buddy and I are making changes via Notepad++ and then in command line we are adding and then committing. He went into GitHub and sent me a Pull Request. Then I went into GitHub and looked at it there but couldn't do a merge on it. It gave me instructions to merge but it won't because of conflicts. I want to go through the conflicts to merge the documents
[02:46] <rick_h_> jcastro: ping
[02:46] <jcastro> yo
[02:46] <rick_h_> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/880/ mean anything to you?
[02:46] <rick_h_> searching if my ec2 isn't setup right or not
[02:47] <jcastro> looks like you need to send the charm some config options
[02:47] <rick_h_> ok, don't see it in the charm but wondered if it was charm or env for bringing something up
[02:47] <rick_h_> thanks
[02:47] <jcastro> I think that's a charm thing
[02:47] <jcastro> pretty sure
[02:47] <rick_h_> jcastro: cool thanks
[02:47] <jcastro> oh nice work ubuntu, blank readmes
[02:48] <rick_h_> yea :(
[02:48] <jcastro> see if negronjl is on #juju
[02:48] <rick_h_> trying to charm something of my own
[02:48] <jcastro> he's west coast and usually around
[02:48] <jcastro> whatcha charmin?
[02:48] <rick_h_> but going to try to set it up on ec2
[02:48] <rick_h_> http://r.bmark.us/ first
[02:48] <rick_h_> and if it goes well I'll try to do bookie
[02:49] <jcastro> I would try
[02:49] <jcastro> hmm
[02:49] <jcastro> why would you have userpass auth
[02:49] <jcastro> sanitize and show me your environments.yaml pls
[02:50] <rick_h_> yea, and redis-master has no config file
[02:50] <jcastro> indeed
[02:50] <jcastro> did you try on a non-t1 micro?
[02:50] <rick_h_> jcastro: https://pastebin.canonical.com/83953/
[02:50] <rick_h_> jcastro: no, didn't yet.
[02:51] <rick_h_> same error if I leave off the constraint
[02:51] <jcastro> default: canonistack is your problem
[02:51] <jcastro> you need to -eec2 to your original command
[02:51] <jcastro> to use your ec2 env
[02:51] <rick_h_> ah bah, remembered the -e on bootstrap but not on the deploy
[02:51] <jcastro> instead of your canonistack
[02:51] <jcastro> yep
[02:51] <rick_h_> thanks
[02:51] <jcastro> one trick juan does is implement a bash alias to set the JUJU_ENVIRONMENT variable
[02:52] <jcastro> so he can skip the -e thing and just switch between environments as a whole
[02:52] <rick_h_> makes sense
[02:52] <rick_h_> shakes808: ok, so the idea here is that he's got a branch up you want to merge
[02:53] <rick_h_> but it's got conflicts
[02:53] <rick_h_> so what you want to do is create a local branch
[02:53] <rick_h_> git checkout -b pull_friends_stuff
[02:53] <rick_h_> and then you want to merge his branch into yours and get all the conflicts
[02:53] <rick_h_> git merge git://path..to..hhis..branch branchname
[02:54] <rick_h_> and then resolve the conflicts, change over to master, merge your pull_friends_stuff and then push master back up
[02:54] <rick_h_> don't try to keep with the github gui. It's nice and all but as you're finding it doesn't help
[02:55] <rick_h_> bah, sniped on ebay again
[02:55] <rick_h_> ok well...must walk away
[03:02] <shakes808> rick_h: Trying to go through some scenarios and trying to figure this stuff out
[03:02] <shakes808> lol
[03:02] <rick_h_> bring it to CHC?
[03:02] <shakes808> I was trying to do testing with myself and merging stuff but never really go conflicts
[03:02] <shakes808> I might be able to show up.
[03:02] <shakes808> for a little bit
[03:03] <rick_h_> up to you, might be easier to figure out
[03:04] <shakes808> I will hop on IRC during the day and let you know. It will be much easier.
[03:20] <shakes808> You have a good night and I will most likely be there tomorrow
[04:52] <snap-l> Evening
[05:31] <greg-g> rick_h_: cool intro video. Thanks
[11:24] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea thuoght maybe this 'get into woodworking week' stuff might be of interest
[11:24] <rick_h_> nothing about spoons :/ lol
[13:23] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:24] <snap-l> I can't imagine spoons are that easy to make
[13:24] <snap-l> Seems like a lot of sanding
[13:24] <rick_h_> naw
[13:24] <rick_h_> lots of carving
[13:24] <rick_h_> who needs sanding
[13:25] <brousch> I don't want splinters from my spoon
[13:30] <rick_h_> wimp :P
[13:33] <shakes808> Good morning all
[13:34] <brousch> Good morning one
[14:12] <shakes808> :D
[14:12] <rick_h_> party
[14:12] <rick_h_> used Blazeix's fancy link now in the CHC announcements. Thanks Blazeix! :)
[14:43] <snap-l> w000t
[14:44] <brousch> whoa
[15:19] <rick_h_> greg-g: lol the world is crazy https://twitter.com/simonw/status/299165514033418241
[15:20] <brousch> You could 3D print spoons
[15:20] <rick_h_> except for the 'wood' part
[15:21]  * brousch looks into wood-grain 3d printing
[15:21] <rick_h_> *sigh*
[16:19] <rick_h_> hah, crazy thing of the day http://docs.topazruby.com/en/latest/blog/announcing-topaz/
[16:21] <jrwren> no, but you could certainly use a different CAM for wood spons
[16:21] <jrwren> *spoons
[16:30] <brousch> rick_h_: That hurts my mind
[17:56] <snap-l> http://www.slideshare.net/dberkholz/assholes-are-killing-your-project-fosdem
[17:56] <greg-g> rick_h_: awesome!
[17:58] <rick_h_> snap-l: lol
[17:58] <rick_h_> *sigh* .... I'm going to have a field day with my wife now. This is why we don't give out emails.
[17:58] <rick_h_> just got a giant CC email from my son's day care with everyone in the CC
[18:02] <greg-g> at first I thought you meant my current employer :)
[18:02] <rick_h_> lol
[18:02] <rick_h_> so now my reply 'confirmation' has to be a lesson no BCC vs CC and wtf it means to want to keep my information private.
[18:02] <rick_h_> *double sigh*
[18:03] <brousch> rick_h_: Give up
[18:05] <snap-l> http://programmingisterrible.com/post/42432568185/how-to-parse-ruby
[18:35] <jhansonxi> rick_h_: I once worked for Eaton back in the days of the "ISO 9000" craze.  About once a week, some salesperson in some distant division would email "everyone" that one of their favorite vendors received ISO 9000 certification.  A few dozen recipients would reply "WTF do I care?" via "reply all".  Mail servers would collapse for a few hours.
[20:47] <snap-l> http://vimcasts.org/blog/2013/02/habit-breaking-habit-making/
[20:48] <snap-l> I'm not sure I agree this is a bad habit
[20:48] <snap-l> but then again, I have many finely grained bad habits
[21:59] <rick_h_> I did that to get me onto hjkl
[21:59] <rick_h_> I nop'd the arrows
[23:55] <snap-l> http://blog.magnatune.com/2013/02/iphone-app-for-background-music-for-restaurants-and-businesses.html


[00:19] <kaimast> hey its me again with more display problems
[00:19] <kaimast> now my computer doesnt detect external monitors at all anymore
[00:19] <kaimast> there is no log msg in /var/log/udev when i plug it in or anything....
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks


[02:17] <arbir> hello
[02:17] <arbir> anybody has an excellent partition scheme in mind ? should i create /boot seperately ? or all in root ?
[02:18] <arbir> !partitions
[04:29] <MTec007> how do i set up permissions for my current user to allow full usb device access? it seems like im having permission issues
[04:30] <forces> add your user to usb group
[04:30] <MTec007> that simple? lol
[04:31] <MTec007> er i dont have a usb group
[04:32] <MTec007> i knew this wouldnt be a piece of cake.
[04:32] <forces> add to users
[04:32] <forces> add to all of them
[04:32] <forces> xD
[04:33] <forces> forces@source:~$ groups
[04:33] <forces> forces adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[04:34] <MTec007> i have the same groups as you + audio
[04:35] <MTec007> maybe i need to do something stupid like add myself to the root group?
[04:35] <MTec007> i need a quite a bit of usb access, its a usb PIC programmer controlled by piklab
[04:38] <forces> MTec007, in gnome you can add to group with a GUI tool
[04:38] <forces> you can select a usb support there
[04:38] <forces> xubuntu should have something similar
[04:39] <MTec007> ok
[04:40] <MTec007> well it doesnt give me anything to pick what access the group has, only lets me make a group
[04:49] <thor88> ok
[04:52] <thor88> ask question would be ok?
[04:56] <forces> yep
[04:57] <thor88> well, i'll ask and see.  Have working ubuntu sys,  added Xfce,  netbook works much better.  Leave sys alone,
[04:58] <thor88> or install for max performance.  am using burned disk right now.
[05:00] <forces> install what?
[05:01] <thor88> xubuntu without the gnome desktop.
[05:03] <thor88> even better speed without the nice but huge gnome on hard drive?
[05:03] <thor88> just a theory
[05:12] <forces> maybe
[05:12] <forces> you can try it in another partition
[05:15] <thor88> total hard space is 16 GB.  not 160, 16.  netbook speeds up with everything i've tried that limited used junk
[05:15] <thor88> unused junk, i meant
[05:26] <thor88> gotta go.  i am out of date.  this stuff used to be instant fast.  20 years ago.  command line days.
[07:20] <dennizjov> Hi guys i got a problem with xubuntu, my soundcard doesnt work with alsa but with pulseaudio it works.. And everytime i restart xubuntu i need to setup pulseaudio again, how do i set pulseaudio to default? And that it will save my changes so i doesnt mute all outgoing sounds
[07:26] <igsen> after upgrade to jaunty, i can't play games on yahoo. whereas on intrepid i can. what could be the problem?
[07:28] <igsen> !gcj
[11:09] <N-S> Good morning. I have a usbdisk using truecrypt with NTFS as filesystem. How do I force "chmod 777" or "chown myuser:users" on it so other users than myself can access/write to it? Right now it's set to 700 and myser:myuser and I can't change it.
[11:11] <N-S> Disk is automounted when enabled through Truecrypt. I haven't checked settings (sorry) in Truecrypt to see if I can loosen the security settings.
[11:12] <N-S> http://nopaste.php-q.net/250486 this is how a mount list looks.
[11:19] <bmanns> anyone know of a fast way to install xubuntu on a usb drive and run it?
[11:19] <bmanns> I've always wanted to try and appears it'd work
[11:23] <knome> !usb
[11:29] <bmanns> hmmm
[11:29] <bmanns> too sleepy lol
[11:34] <muxfr> Hi
[11:35] <muxfr> I just installed xubuntu and I have no sound at all
[11:35] <muxfr> and it's not muted and I have audio device usage priveliges.
[11:35] <muxfr> what can be wrong?
[11:41] <bmanns> is the chip supported?
[11:42] <muxfr> not sure
[11:42] <bmanns> should of checked
[11:42] <muxfr> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[11:42] <muxfr> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series]
[11:42] <bmanns> get all hardware written down and google it
[11:42] <bmanns> im guessin its a laptop?
[11:43] <bmanns> just search ich9 intel audio ubuntu and look alil bit for rev 03 or 82801I
[11:43] <muxfr> yes
[11:43] <muxfr> I did, but it's not helping
[11:43] <bmanns> The ati is probably a hdmi output
[11:43] <muxfr> I've been googline for over 20 hours
[11:43] <muxfr> ya
[11:44] <bmanns> raise the audio output?
[11:44] <bmanns> "mixer"
[11:44] <muxfr> it's not muted
[11:44] <muxfr> it's up
[11:44] <bmanns> i never used xubuntu i was gonna try a usb stick tonight  but i think all xfce uses it
[11:44] <bmanns> hmm
[11:44] <bmanns> iono
[12:06] <pratz> muxfr, check the PCM level in mixer
[15:15] <aladoin> can anyone give me a tip of a file manager for xubuntu which also have ftp capability
[15:39] <_Pete_> aladoin: any shell is good
[15:40] <Ragamufin> use the dash shell
[15:42] <_Pete_> aladoin: so is it that you want to use it most easily or otherway most effciently ?
[15:43] <aladoin> _Pete_: I just tried Konqueror, did the trick, wonderful little thing
[15:45] <_Pete_> good then
[15:45] <_Pete_> I usually do all from cmdline
[16:02] <bittin> Hello, somone here knows anything about wvdail iam trying to get an Huawei E1550 to work
[16:55] <bittin> do somone know how to get a DVD TV-dongle to work with mplayer?
[17:12] <bittin> how do i load a firmwire in Linux?
[17:12] <Ragamufin> bittin, which one?
[17:13] <bittin> got it to work
[17:13] <Ragamufin> ok
[17:16] <bittin> i find the firmwire and moved it to /lib/firmware/
[17:17] <bittin> trying to get a dvb-t tv dongle thing to work
[17:17] <Ragamufin> i have no idea of how to do that
[17:18] <bittin> ah ok
[20:29] <mr_cha0s> Hey guys, anyone know how to set the menu on Jaunty?
[20:31] <mr_cha0s> of course, i tried editing it through the settings, doesn't work
[20:33] <TheSheep> the menu is built out of the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
[20:33] <TheSheep> to modify any entry, just copy the file into your home to ~/.local/share/applications and edit it
[20:34] <TheSheep> it's a tekst file
[20:34] <TheSheep> text
[20:57] <Ragamufin> SysInfo: uname: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 Distro: Unknown CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T1350  @ 1.86GHz 800.000 MHz Bogomips: 3729.77 Mem: 233/495M [||||||||||] Diskspace: 54.98G Free: 48.87G Uptime: 5 hrs 35 mins 45 secs Load: 1.75 1.01 0.43  Procs: 85 Graphic: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) Screen: 1280x800
[20:57] <Ragamufin>  (32 bpp) Netinfo: wlan0: In: 379.56M Out: 20.80M
[20:57] <Ragamufin> sorry, wrong channel
[21:47] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.30-02063002-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 74.2% free] disk[Total: 415.0GB, 44.7% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[22:02] <mr_cha0s> TheSheep: you there?
[22:05] <mr_cha0s> i'm wondering how you know what to put in .desktop files, since for instance, files in "Accessories" say 'Categories=Application;Utility'
[22:06] <mr_cha0s> the main reason i want to edit my menus is to organize all the sound stuff from ubuntu studio, breaking it down into folders beneath just 'multimedia'
[22:06] <mr_cha0s> it's disturbing to have like 40 things in one menu
[22:07] <mr_cha0s> anyone know how to create new folders in the menu?
[22:08] <mr_cha0s> or just point towards docs that work? ;
[22:08] <mr_cha0s> ;)
[22:56] <Creator> I have a problem with an external hardrive.. when i power up my system the drive dosen't seem to power up alongside it - Is't gray in "Places". Just clicking on the drive on the drive solve this.. BUT since im using Xubuntu as a bace im my mediacenter and XBMC on top it's disturbing to have to quit XBMC every time i trart the computer to include my external hardrive.. AND my DiNovo external keyboard dosen't power u either, i have to remove the usb-don
[22:56] <Creator> any ideas?


[02:36] <mup> Bug #1044421 changed: Password field for IPMI configuration is clear text <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044421>
[04:19] <mup> Bug #1461712 changed: 1.8rc1:  sm15k systems - non-PXE NIC's mac address doesn't get linked back to cluster <oil> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461712>
[04:28] <mup> Bug #1461712 opened: 1.8rc1:  sm15k systems - non-PXE NIC's mac address doesn't get linked back to cluster <oil> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461712>
[04:37] <mup> Bug #1461712 changed: 1.8rc1:  sm15k systems - non-PXE NIC's mac address doesn't get linked back to cluster <oil> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461712>
[06:53] <tai271828> hi, is it possible to assign FQDN domain for nodes?  .maas may be too generic and I want to have my own one for lab infrastructure.
[08:42] <roaksoax> tai271828: you can edi tyour cluster controller and change that
[08:49] <tai271828> roaksoax, cool, thanks!
[08:49] <tai271828> roaksoax, let me try.
[16:26] <mup> Bug #1480996 opened: maas memory rounding seems wrong <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480996>
[17:57] <mup> Bug #1480996 opened: maas memory rounding seems wrong <MAAS:New> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480996>
[19:53] <geekinutah> Looking for maas packages that work, the installation guide suggestst that I add the cloud-archive:tools PPA
[19:53] <geekinutah> when I do so I get this error -> http://pastebin.com/mNtMGt1G
[20:18] <catbus1> geekinutah: are you running 12.04 or 14.04?
[20:20] <geekinutah> 14.04
[20:21] <geekinutah> catbus1: ^
[20:21] <catbus1> geekinutah: that should work, let me create a 14.04 real quick
[20:33] <catbus1> I get the same error on 14.04.
[20:34] <catbus1> jamespage: ^^^ File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/cloudarchive.py", line 99, in expand    if codename not in (MAP[self.caname]['release'],KeyError: 'release'
[20:38] <jamespage> cloud-tools was only for 12.04 catbus1
[20:38] <jamespage> but that is a crappy error message
[20:38] <jamespage> the maas team run a stable ppa - I'd defer to them for location
[20:43] <catbus1> geekinutah: ^^^ the stable ppa for maas is ppa:maas-maintainers/stable, that will get you maas 1.8, that's newer than 1.7.6 in the trusty-updates/main.
[20:56] <geekinutah> catbus1, jamespage: thanks
[21:18] <geekinutah> catbus1, jamespage: Where do I file the documentation bug? I got the wrong directions from here -> http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/install.html#installing-maas-from-the-archive
[21:18] <catbus1> geekinutah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas
[21:19] <geekinutah> right, duh, thx
[21:24] <mup> Bug #1481091 opened: MaaS Install guide incorrectly refers to 12.04 cloud PPA <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481091>
[21:27] <mup> Bug #1481091 changed: MaaS Install guide incorrectly refers to 12.04 cloud PPA <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481091>
[21:36] <mup> Bug #1481091 opened: MaaS Install guide incorrectly refers to 12.04 cloud PPA <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481091>


[12:50] <sabdfl> happy easter mdke
[12:50] <mdke> sabdfl, same to you :)
[12:50] <sabdfl> the ubuntu/member/mdke thing... does that happen automatically now for members?
[12:51] <mdke> sabdfl, no, Dennis deals with it for new members I think
[08:46] <infignus> hi all
[08:46] <infignus> i have a small question for u
[08:46] <infignus> someone?
[05:50] <Seveas> any launchpad developer around who's not on holiday?
[05:53] <sivang> Seveas: what's up?
[05:54] <Seveas> sivang, just looking for lp devs
[05:55] <Seveas> I want to give a short talk about it and want to know their opinion on what are important things to talk about
[05:55] <sivang> Seveas: sounds cool, major emphasis about maximized collaboration I'd say :-)
[05:55] <Seveas> of course
[06:17] <highvoltage> hi launchpad land
[06:17] <highvoltage> i'm working on the new edubuntu site, which is Drupal based.
[06:17] <highvoltage> we want to translate the site into other languages, and Drupal supports .po files.
[06:18] <highvoltage> can we get the Edubuntu website into Launchpad for translation?
[06:18] <highvoltage> We're also going to use Drupal for Xubuntu.
[06:22] <highvoltage> Bluekuja: you around?
[06:44] <Seveas> highvoltage, just create an edubuntu-website product on launchpad
[06:44] <Seveas> you don't need launchpad staff for that ;)
[06:50] <highvoltage> Seveas: cool! thanks :)
[07:05] <highvoltage> Seveas: "Administrator help needed. Edubuntu Website has not yet been setup for translation through Rosetta." :/
[07:05] <highvoltage> that's what i get when i access https://launchpad.net/products/edubuntu-website/+translations
[07:09] <highvoltage> my word. i wish i explored products in launchpad earlier. this is cool shit!
[07:16] <Seveas> highvoltage, 'administrator' is administrator of the project
[07:16] <Seveas> and I'm off for dinner now
[07:18] <highvoltage> Seveas: ok, enjoy.
[07:41] <highvoltage> seems like launchpad has got the better of me again
[07:42] <highvoltage> how do enable the translation of a product in launchpad?
[07:42] <highvoltage> (what do i need to click on?)
[07:57] <Bluekuja> back
[07:57] <Bluekuja> jon are you there or gone?
[07:57] <highvoltage> Bluekuja: how is it that you're just about everywhere else except on #edubuntu :)
[07:58] <Bluekuja> hehe :) i was with family
[07:58] <Bluekuja> :)
[07:59] <Bluekuja> and they gone just 3 minutes ago
[07:59] <highvoltage> ok
[07:59] <Bluekuja> now im here ready
[07:59] <Bluekuja> tell me
[08:00] <highvoltage> Bluekuja: just sorting out the translations thing in launchpad, you should be able to start with the italian translations soon
[08:01] <Bluekuja> yeah of course
[08:01] <Bluekuja> np for it :)
[08:01] <highvoltage> excellent.
[08:02] <Bluekuja> when translations are ready ,ill start
[08:02] <highvoltage> ok, i'll let you know
[08:02] <Bluekuja> perfect
[08:11] <Seveas> highvoltage, "define products launchpad usage" oslt
[08:15] <highvoltage> Seveas: yes, i finally found it :)
[08:16] <highvoltage> Seveas: if it's in the import approval queue, does that mean I need to approve it, or someone else?
[08:16] <Seveas> no idea, never seen that
[08:22] <zyga> geez, what's with the hiragana smile!
[08:23] <zyga> next thing we know all IM clients will replace it with a smiley with asian yeyes
[08:23] <zyga> eyes
[08:26] <highvoltage> zyga: yeah. like Seveas's smiley
[08:49] <Petr> hello
[08:52] <Petr> I am new to Ubuntu. I tried to register to https://wiki.ubuntu.com but it redirected me to https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/+login. The question is what is the relation between Ubuntu and Launchpad?
[08:53] <highvoltage> launchpad is used to manage the ubuntu distribution.
[08:53] <highvoltage> ubuntu will probably be entirely created from launchpad in the future.
[08:53] <highvoltage> launchpad is a canonical product, and so is ubuntu.
[08:54] <highvoltage> that probably answers the relation part.
[08:56] <Petr> hm, yes it explains it.
[08:59] <Petr> Perhaps it would be good to mention it somewhere. For example the wiki mentions word launchpad quite frequently and assumes some knowledge about the subject. But there is no article about the matter.
[09:00] <Petr> the registration page will benefit by adding link to "about launchpad" too
[09:01] <Petr> i would write about it, but one must register first :(
[09:09] <tortho> A little question... All these packages that is for translation in Dapper.... Does the changes go effectly directly to the package or does it only appear in Dapper? For example the OpenOffice packages... I thaught it was a little strange that some og them only had 2 out of 15000 strings translated..
[09:41] <erdalronahi> hello
[09:42] <erdalronahi> Is there a chance that the faulty OpenOffice.org import into Rosetta will be repaired in the next days?
[09:42] <erdalronahi> We use Rosetta as the primary translation tool for OOo,
[09:42] <erdalronahi> and April 20th is the deadline for upstream translations
[09:43] <fabbione> erdalronahi: i think they were working on it already but i can't help more because i don't follow the project directly
[09:43] <erdalronahi> If there is no chance of fixing it in Rosetta, we will have to export the files from breezy and process them by hand
[09:44] <erdalronahi> which is tricky anyway...
[09:44] <fabbione> you will need to ask carlos or pitti or doko when they are online
[09:44] <erdalronahi> doko is online :)
[09:45] <tortho> What?.. Does this mean that there is no use to translate the Dapper OOo?!?!?!
[09:45] <erdalronahi> no, that does not mean that
[09:45] <erdalronahi> it means that during the import of the files from breezy
[09:46] <tortho> So all the packages i can find under Dapper - Norwegian wich i translate will go back and improve their sources?
[09:46] <erdalronahi> all untranslated strings have been replaced with the english translations
[09:46] <erdalronahi> for you that makes not much difference
[09:46] <erdalronahi> tortho
[09:46] <erdalronahi> no
[09:46] <erdalronahi> you have sources, havent you?
[09:47] <erdalronahi> Our team (Kurdish) hasnt
[09:47] <erdalronahi> the translations in Breezy are the only translations
[09:48] <erdalronahi> tortho, could I explain myself?
[09:48] <tortho> OK, to make it clear. If i Translate here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/nb Will the strings only occour in Dapper, or will they also go into furter releases of f
[09:48] <tortho> lets say "bison"
[09:49] <tortho> If it is only for Dapper it is more or less waste! to translate it there.
[09:49] <erdalronahi> just Dapper, unless you give it to upstream
[09:50] <erdalronahi> this is exactly what I am trying to do at the moment,
[09:50] <erdalronahi> and I find it not a waste at all
[09:50] <erdalronahi> ha, no
[09:50] <erdalronahi> got you wrong
[09:50] <erdalronahi> of course,
[09:50] <erdalronahi> the translations are valid for all further Ubuntu releases, too
[09:50] <erdalronahi> but not for other distributions
[09:51] <tortho> OK, that's better I'll do everything for Ubuntu, as long as i dont have to copy paste all the strings as the packages are introduced again.
[09:52] <tortho> And GnuCash, wich i translate outside rosetta/launchpad.
[09:52] <erdalronahi> doko: how are you?
[09:56] <tortho> But then another question. What happends when a new release of OpenOffice for example is released. If both I in lauchpad has translated it, and it is translated in the main application. Wich string is shown?
[09:57] <erdalronahi> Launchpad is sometimes synchronized with upstream
[09:57] <erdalronahi> but I don't know the exact procedure
[09:58] <erdalronahi> it's always good to coordinate efforts with upstream
[09:58] <tortho> yes it is, but how excact do i do it?
[10:08] <erdalronahi> find out who works there and contact them
[10:08] <erdalronahi> especially the team leader for your language
[11:08] <sabdfl> anybody know how to rejig PQM?
[11:18] <Petr> hello
[11:18] <Petr> how is it possible to edit wiki.ubuntu.com?
[11:21] <sabdfl> Petr: just login and edit, some pages are locked but most are open
[11:21] <sabdfl> you need a Launchpad account
[11:21] <sabdfl> use the launchpad email/passwd to login to the wiki
[11:23] <Petr> i have registered at launchepad already, I succesfully log in (at launchpad.net) but I still cant edit even my own wiki page
[11:24] <Petr> it says "You are not allowed to edit this page."
[11:25] <Petr> and trying to login there gets "Sorry, wrong password."
[11:26] <sabdfl> are you using your full email address?
[11:26] <Petr> no
[11:26] <sabdfl> nromally when you log into a wiki you use your WikiName
[11:26] <sabdfl> but on wiki.ubuntu.com you use your email address and passwd
[11:26] <Petr> oh my
[11:27] <sabdfl> working?
[11:27] <Petr> so why the help does not say it?
[11:27] <sabdfl> dunno, url?
[11:27] <Petr> url of what?
[11:27] <Petr> the login form should say it
[11:29] <Petr> no, filling the whole email adres does not help
[11:29] <Petr> the url I am using to log in is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences
[11:31] <Petr> tho login always says "Sorry, wrong password.".
[11:32] <Petr> It says "wrong password" even for random account names.
[11:33] <Petr> oh jezus. now it works :(
[11:34] <Petr> the problem was that my browser probably cached something
[11:36] <Petr> and that the login page wrongly illed the password with bogus character with the _same_ length as my actual password tricking me into thinking that I do not need to retype the password
[11:38] <dilys> Merge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  Improve spec pages and link to new documentation. (r3473: Mark Shuttleworth)
[11:40] <sabdfl> Petr: well, glad you're in now!
[11:41] <Petr> sabdfl: yes :), but it took dispropriate amount of labor to get in. This not very wiki-like.
[11:43] <Petr> ubuntu's wiki is quite active, do not see reason why it should be so closed. (And if there is reason, who not state it to the registration form or somewhere?)
[11:43] <sabdfl> Petr: can you file a bug?
[11:44] <Petr> well, I suppose I can...
[11:44] <Petr> where should I report it?
[11:46] <sabdfl> launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+filebug
[11:47] <Petr> sabdfl: are uou sure it is launchpad related?
[11:47] <fabbione> Petr: yes if you consider it is a LP usability/interface issue
[11:50] <Petr> yes, it feels like usability issue. but it is ubuntu's wiki's issue (although I was told that launchpad is ubuntu's tool or something like that)
[11:51] <mdke> it's quite a well known issue that. I think the problem is caused by your browser storing the password and inserting it on the UserPreferences page
[11:52] <mdke> it's worth filing on launchpad, if it isn't already there, because I'm fairly sure it's caused by the implementation of launchpad authentication on the wiki
[11:52] <Petr> possible, I saved the password which I ussualy not do
[11:52] <sabdfl> mdke: do you know which page is the template for the login page? i couldn't find it now
[11:52] <mdke> workaround: tell your browser not to save the password. you'll stay logged in
[11:52] <mdke> sabdfl, what do you mean?
[11:54] <sabdfl> mdke: there's a page where it says to use your "Launchpad login" but I think it should say "email address and Launchpad password"
[11:54] <mdke> and you want to know where the code if to change that?
[11:55] <mdke> s/if/is
[11:55] <mdke> it'll be in spiv's patch on the moin code, I suppose
[11:55] <sabdfl> mdke: ok, thanks
[11:56] <Petr> "email address and Launchpad password" <- yes, that would be good
[11:56] <sabdfl> Petr: could you file a bug and let me know the number?
[11:56] <Petr> yes
[11:56] <sabdfl> i'll assign it to spiv and comment on it
[11:57] <Petr> since the "email name" seems to be worked on now I supoose that i should fill the password blanking thing
[11:58] <sabdfl> Petr: file them both and let me know the numbers?
[11:58] <Petr> ok
[11:59] <sabdfl> thanks
[11:59] <sabdfl> now, back to my code


[09:25] <geser> does somebody know why building a package with "configure --enable-scrollkeeper" works on Debian while on Ubuntu one needs the pass --disable-scrollkeeper to configure?
[09:27] <seb128> ubuntu is using rarian and debian not?
[09:28] <geser> doesn't build-depending on scrollkeeper install scrollkeeper anymore?
[09:29] <seb128> geser: rarian-compat is similar so any of those can be used
[09:29] <seb128> lut huats
[09:29] <huats> hello seb128
[09:30] <seb128> geser: anyway why would you want to enable this configuration option when it's obviously not what you want? those updates should be done during the installation on the client box and not on the buildd
[09:32] <geser> seb128: I was looking at a FTBFS (gossip) where the error was due to a missing --disable-scrollkeeper and I saw in debian/rules that it called configure with --enable-scrollkeeper
[09:33] <geser> and looking at Debian build logs it builds there successfully
[09:35] <seb128> could be a buildd configuration difference too
[09:35] <seb128> doesn't really matter though, this option should not be used for debian builds since you don't want to index whatever is installed on the buildds
[09:37] <geser> so I should forward the Ubuntu delta to Debian?
[09:37] <geser> lool: ^^ what's your opinion on it as you are a co-maintainer of gossip?
[09:43] <lool> geser: No idea why --enable-scrollkeeper was added
[09:43] <lool> It's not documented why in the changelog
[09:44] <lool> geser: rarian-compat provides scrollkeeper; does it fail to build under Ubuntu with rarian-compat or scrollkeeper?
[09:44] <lool> or both?
[09:47] <geser> lool: I don't have the build log anymore but it failed because it couldn't write in /var/lib/scrollkeeper (or similar) during the build
[09:47] <lool> geser: Perpaps rarian-compat should be fixed?
[09:49] <geser> I'll try later (when I'm back at home) and check if it failed with scrollkeeper or rarian-compat
[09:59] <mvo> seb128: hey! what is the plan for gdm for jaunty (have we one ;) ? I ask because it would be nice if we would use hal to shutdown - then e.g. synaptic could inhibit a shutdown while its working
[10:01] <seb128> mvo: I would say it's time to switch to the new gdm now
[10:03] <mvo> will it use hal for shutdown?
[10:05] <seb128> mvo: it does
[10:08] <mvo> excellent
[10:39]  * mvo recently discovered the compiz now plugin and thinks its awsome
[10:39] <mvo> "snow"
[10:39]  * mvo can't type
[13:29] <hggdh> seb128, good morning (for me) afternoon (for you)
[13:29] <seb128> hggdh: hello
[13:30] <hggdh> seb128, re. bug 205999 -- latest fix has some issues on backporting to Hardy
[13:30] <seb128> hggdh: I read your comments, why are glade changes required to fix an encoding issue?
[13:31] <hggdh> seb128, a new configuration option was added (so that the default behaviour will still be rfc2231-compliant)
[13:32] <seb128> we likely don't want changes which add UI changes and new strings to stable
[13:32] <hggdh> I did a make against trunk, and it works fine; I also built against Intrepid, and published it -- but I am really not sure about Hardy
[13:32] <hggdh> exactly
[13:33] <seb128> I would say to not bother doing an hardy backport for now, let's try to get that fixed in intrepid or jaunty first and we will see later if we want to backport the change
[13:33] <hggdh> on the other hand, the previous patch will work on Hardy (in a different way, and it will create wrong attachment filenames -- but they will be usable
[13:34] <hggdh> I agree, but I wanted your input on this (after all, experience counts!)
[13:35] <seb128> ideally microsoft would respect the standards
[13:35] <seb128> anyway we didn't get so many lts users requests for that and I'm not sure adding complex changes or half working changes is worth the trouble
[13:35] <seb128> let's get that tested in intrepid or jaunty
[13:35] <hggdh> I found a page on support.microsoft.com that states Outcrap 2007 will read rfc2231, but will not generate them
[13:36] <hggdh> seb128, k
[13:36] <seb128> thanks for your work on those
[13:36] <seb128> did you get any feedback on the other bugs about the sqlite migration on upgrade?
[13:37] <hggdh> welcome. I am now waiting for field feedback on the Intrepid fix, but I will check upstream if they are going to commit the fix in time for us to use it now
[13:37] <hggdh> on the migration, the reporter commented upstream that it did not quite work. srag asked for the coder to look at it ASAP
[13:38] <seb128> ok
[13:38] <hggdh> (Sankar)
[13:38] <hggdh> seb128, glad to be able to help out a bit
[13:39] <hggdh> seb128, backporting to Hardy will not be a trivial change -- the glade interface was rewritten for 2.24
[13:40] <seb128> I doubt we will be wanting to backport UI changes anyway
[13:40]  * hggdh agrees
[16:09] <mvo> seb128: I looked at the eog bug you mentioned, this particular one seems to be a packages in really bad shape and update-manager seems to be unable to fix that
[16:09] <seb128> mvo: it has been duplicated since no? I think that was another case where the user sent duplicates over random packages due to an install issue
[16:11]  * mvo nods
[16:44] <pitti> seb128: <flamewar gauntlet>so, my gthumb patch for fixing photo import was accepted within 24 hours, while it took weeks for f-spot (and still arguing about the remaining bit); I love gthumb! :-)
[16:44]  * pitti hugs seb128
[16:45] <seb128> pitti: trolll!!!!
[16:45]  * seb128 hugs pitti
[16:45] <pitti> (no worries, I'm just happy that it's upstream now)
[18:53] <mpt> Discussion in irc.gnome.org #usability about rearranging the Sound preferences, if anyone is interested
[18:53] <mpt> http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-volume-control/Screenshot-Sound%20Preferences-1.png
[18:58] <dobey> again?
[18:58] <dobey> whee


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 @lotus Kamal, @DarinMiller
[03:52] <R13ose> The panel I'm using is on auto hide but sometimes, it doesn't auto hide and is stick on top of programs.  Right now, this isn't auto hiding.  What do I do to fix this?
 If the panel is not autohiding, it's most like an app either in the tray or task manager section that is requesting attention.
[03:56] <R13ose> How do I know which app that is?
 Some apps have red dots, some change the icon color slightly. It's usually IM apps like telegram or teams.
 I just click on anything that's open until I find the app.
[04:00] <R13ose> I don't use either on desktop.  The only apps open are Discord and Opera Browser
 Sup
[06:09] <akb> helloo anybody outthere
 Fwd from linuxophil: Hey guys! After an update, my Kubuntu 18.04 does not start anymore. After grub all I see is this:
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/MX0b8VBg/file_34798.jpg
 Fwd from linuxophil: Normally it should ask me for the decryption password.
 Does anyone know what to do here?
[07:21] <eeos> Any news on the do-release-upgrade option?
[08:38] <oerheks> eeos, nope, upgrade path is not out yet.
[08:38] <oerheks> !ltsupgrade
[08:39] <oerheks> few more hours/days/weeks....
 oerheks! a simple update on my Kubuntu 18.04 just broke my system!
 see above
 can you help?
[08:40] <oerheks> linuxophil, looks like a dirty filesystem, not closed properly, or maybe a bad block
[08:41] <oerheks> run a fsck from live usb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
 the shutdown after the update (done via discover) did get stuck. after half an hour, I held down the power button and restarted that way.
 thanks for answering!
 I have started from a Kubuntu 20.04.1-USB and am rescuing the data first. Then I will follow your advice!
 Thanks a lot!
[08:43] <oerheks> good luck !
 @oerheks, thx!
 so is it correct that the fschk runs automatically when I start from the USB?
[08:45] <oerheks> no.
 oh
[08:45] <oerheks> first you need to determin what partition is broken
 on the new ubuntu isos it says so on boot and if you do not want it, you have to interrupt.
[08:46] <oerheks> ok, never seen that, i think it is oke to use it.
[08:59] <eeos> oerheks: thanks a lot!
 How to install the last plasma KDE 15.9 in KUbuntu 20.04 LTS?
 @GalantGTR, Not possible as kde devs made it require newer qt than is on 20.04
 @RikMills, Hi Rik!
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/R3bXVnY4/file_34808.jpg No new updates available
 Qt 5.12.8
 Did you see my problem with a non booting Kubuntu 18.04 after update via discover? I am just asking because it might be relevant to others. Scenario: XPS13 9350 with just Kubuntu 18.04 on it. LVM with LUKS (because I needed encryption and the only way in the installer to get it was via LVM). Last update was about a week ago. updated today. Restarted. Laptop froze on reboot. Had to hold down power button. After that error after
 @linuxophil, @RikMills
 @linuxophil, All I can suggest is try the previous kernel
 @RikMills, Tried that did not do anything.
 @GalantGTR, Qt and Plasma do not get major version upgrades, especially on a LTS release
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:38] <murat_> hey
 Why does kubuntu insist on making the wifi signal weak?
 On windows my wifi is detected as strong, but kubuntu struggles too much trying to connect
[15:56] <diogenes_> Zoth_Ommog, it's not Kubuntu but the driver.
 Then how do I fix it
 I used the driver manager which says Realtek 8821C, rtl8821 cd-dkms open source
[15:59] <diogenes_> Zoth_Ommog, to look if there is an alternative one, otherwise not much you can do.
 Maybe follow these instruction to see if wifi support improves: https://medium.com/@kimiyukiyukawa/installing-rtl8821ce-network-controller-on-ubuntu-335d8ccb8a92
 It's the same as the open source one isn't it
 It might be, but I don't have time to verify at the moment.
[16:44] <Frogger-> Hi folks.  I'm trying to remove an obsolete kernel, linux-image-5.4.0-39-generic.  But when I "sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-5.4.0-39-generic", apt says that "linux-image-unsigned-5.4.0-39-generic will be installed".  How do I prevent that installation?
[16:45] <oerheks> sudo apt autoremove; would take care of unused kernels
[16:46] <Frogger-> No, it didn't.
[17:31] <tomreyn> Frogger-: if you'll request to remove both packages in a single command   apt purge linux-image-5.4.0-39-generic linux-image-unsigned-5.4.0-39-generic    it should either just work as you intended or tell you why it can't
[17:32] <Frogger-> tomreyn: Thank you!   That worked.
 @RikMills, 20.04 ist LTS
 @RikMills, Is that right that doesn't have any solution to install the new plasma?
[19:58] <oerheks> GalantGTR lots of news about QT last year, https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-offering-changes-2020
[19:58] <oerheks> pay for it