[14:54] <guilhermeblanco> let me try my question again...
[14:54] <hoopoe> why did today's update remove firefox altogether?
[14:54] <guilhermeblanco> Hi... today I decided to remove firefox-2 and install firefox-3, since recently firebug released a version that is compatible with it. I removed all firefox-2 packages and installed ff-3. I installed firebug, which was ok, but my application started to fail in some parts, mainly due to json fails. I decided to remove firefox-3 and back to firefox-2. I uninstalled all extensions, removed the packages of ff-3 (including xulrunner1.9) and installed
[14:54] <guilhermeblanco> firefox-2 again. Now, I'm unable to install any addon (read as firebug from addons.mozilla.org). It keeps me telling: "Unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203". Any ideas to solve it?
[14:54] <Pici> hoopoe: Because you have the Proposed repository enabled.  Proposed updates are potentially broken (like this one was)
[14:55] <hoopoe> tnx
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> guilhermeblanco: try renaming your firefox profile folder in ~/
[14:58] <guilhermeblanco> k, one sec
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> guilhermeblanco: make sure all firefoxes are closed
[14:59] <guilhermeblanco> ok... reinstalling ff
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> guilhermeblanco: install ff2 dude
[15:01] <guilhermeblanco> ActionParsnip: yeah... I'm downloading... I did a autoclean & clean in apt just to make sure
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> you could do sudo apt-get -P firefox to purge settings
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> i think thats the syntax
[15:01] <Pici> apt-get remove --purge
[15:01] <mikesa81> sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> --purge == -P. same deal
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> --purge is just more readable
[15:02] <guilhermeblanco> ok, installed
[15:02] <mikesa81> :)
[15:02] <guilhermeblanco> I'm going to install firebug
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> guilhermeblanco: ok, give us a firefox &
[15:02] <guilhermeblanco> which was the cause of my issue
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> guilhermeblanco: id make sure it runs first without adding more stuff
[15:03] <guilhermeblanco> it's working
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> awesome
[15:03] <guilhermeblanco> let me install
[15:04] <guilhermeblanco> do you recommend firebug from addons.mozilla.org or from getfirebug.com?
[15:04] <guilhermeblanco> the second one has more recent packages
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> i dont use either
[15:04] <mikesa81> try the recent packages
[15:04] <mikesa81> why not?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> why don't I use firebug?
[15:05] <mikesa81> addons. isnt always the fastest to add the latest packages
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> oh i getcha
[15:06] <guilhermeblanco> k... 1.2 or 1.1? it seems 1.2 is only compatible for ff3... but it's not explicit... it tells that 1.0.5 users should use 1.2 (which 1.0.5 is the ff-2)
[15:06] <guilhermeblanco> the assertions are controversial in firebug page
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> im out now
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> see ya later kids
[15:06] <guilhermeblanco> ActionParsnip: thanks
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> peace
[15:07] <guilhermeblanco> it worked
[15:07] <guilhermeblanco> =D
[15:08] <guilhermeblanco> I used 1.1.0
[15:08] <guilhermeblanco> mikesa81: thanks for you too
[15:08] <guilhermeblanco> =)
[15:09] <mikesa81> guilhermeblanco: no prob
[15:09] <krishna_ggk> hi ppl
[15:09] <krishna_ggk> how do i get qt4 examples using package install  on hardy kubuntu ?
[15:10] <cbr> search for it in the package manager maybe?
[15:11] <krishna_ggk> i tried apt-cache search, but none of them had examples mentioned in them
[15:12] <krishna_ggk> will try qt4-demos
[15:12] <cbr> try synaptic, it gives a nice graphical interface
[15:12] <cbr> for searching packages and watching descriptions etc
[15:12] <krishna_ggk> ok
[15:12] <krishna_ggk> thanks
[15:13] <fudus> is there a way of getting opensuse's app menu in kubuntu 8.04?
[15:13] <genii> krishna_ggk: PErhaps kuiviewer-kde4 along with qt4designer
[15:14] <genii> qt4-designer            (forgot hyphen)
[15:14] <fudus> or to get mouse wheel scroll to go beyond 12
[15:18] <schlangen> hi, does anybody knows a cool ksplash for widescreen?
[15:19] <krishna_ggk> genii: no luck, none of install examples
[15:22] <genii> krishna_ggk: There are many you could examine with the kuiviewer. apt-cache search libqt4|grep module             lists quite a few
[15:24] <krishna_ggk> genii: wait, i'll enable backports and try
[15:24] <genii> krishna_ggk: You might want to ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:26] <krishna_ggk> qt4-demos is the one i guess
[15:26] <krishna_ggk> genii: anyway thanks :)
[15:27] <genii> krishna_ggk: np
[15:27] <npmkbn> halo
[15:28] <npmkbn> anybody know how to install hp laserjet 1006 in kubuntu?
[15:34] <alanx> hi, can somebody help me I need upload files to a web server from a path, how do I do that?
[15:47] <jhutchins_wk> alanx: scp
[15:51] <reese> when I try to upgrade from the dvd to 8.04, it says "Could not authenticate some packages" and it lists a lot of them. is there a way to solve this?
[15:51] <frueber> you shouldn't need to authenticate them to install them
[15:52] <frueber> It just means they are refusing to take responsibility for them
[15:55] <reese> frueber: it lists packages like apache, php etc. and the the upgrade stops
[15:58] <ThomasD> hi all
[15:58] <ThomasD> can some check what the right permissions for the /tmp/ dir are, cuz something messed them up :/
[15:58] <ThomasD> and now I get a buch of errors like this
[15:58] <ThomasD> ** (gvim:15197): WARNING **: Wrong permissions for /tmp/orbit-thomas-f0f0f070
[15:59] <ThomasD> applications work fine, but errors annoy me
[16:00] <ThomasD> anyone
[16:00] <ThomasD> plz
[16:10] <shane_> can anyone explain y i cant get ca.archive.ubuntu.com to work i have been trying to access it in a terminal and i keep getting errors
[16:11] <shane_> all i keep getting is Unable to connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com http:
[16:12] <shane_> if it helps im trying sudo apt-get updates
[16:12] <shane_> no s ofcourse
[16:13] <san_> i have kubuntu hardy with KDE4, would someone tell me please how to install gnome on it?
[16:13] <jcfp> shane_: the ca. server is up but a http connection times out. Just use another mirror instead.
[16:13] <shane_> i am using apt-get update so i dont get to chose mirrors
[16:15] <shane_> jcfp:  i am using apt-get update so i dont get to chose mirrors
[16:15] <jcfp> shane_: everybody can choose mirrors by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:16] <jcfp> shane_: just replace the ca. mirror with something else, say nl. and rerun apt-get update
[16:17] <The_ManU_212> envy-ng detects my ati radeon 9200 correctly, but says that the legacy driver which works with this card not available is for hardy, what to do for 3d acceleration?
[16:17] <shane_> jcfp: ok where do i edit do i just run terminal with edit
[16:18] <tim__> san_: you want gnome as a second desktop?
[16:18] <tim__> san_: getting gnome installed should be simple enough, just apt-get it
[16:19] <san_> tim_: yes, that's exactly what i want
[16:19] <san_> tim_ sudo apt_get install gnome ?
[16:19] <jcfp> shane_: any text editor with sudo; something like 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' or 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' should work fine
[16:19] <tim__> yeah that'll fetch it
[16:19] <san_> k thanx :)
[16:19] <tim__> but then you'll want a program for switching desktop,
[16:19] <shane_> jcfp:  TY
[16:19] <tim__> at startup or whatever...
[16:20] <san_> can't i choose it from the "session" menu?
[16:20] <tim__> is there a session menu?
[16:20] <tim__> oh sure then
[16:20] <tim__> yeah it should set itself up to go in there automatically
[16:20] <san_> k, i hope so... thanks :)
[16:21] <tim__> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[16:21] <tim__> is a how to
[16:22] <compilerwriter> Jucato I am afraid I did something stupid.  When I got the updates today it mentioned uninstalling firefox 3.0 and some lib that went along with it.  Since I had the newer 3.5 installed I thought that would be no problem.  ( I know I should not perhaps think so much.)  Now I either have no firefox or I don't know where it is to execute it.    When I got the updates today it mentioned uninstalling firefox 3.0 and some lib that went along with it.  Since I had the newer 3.5 installed I thought that would be no problem.  ( I know I should not perhaps think so much.)  Now I either have no firefox or I don't know where it is to execute it.  I have tried find to no avail any suggestions.
[16:25] <compilerwriter> I guess I should open my question to the masses now that I see Jucato is not on.
[16:25] <llutz> compilerwriter: dpkg -l firefox*|grep ^i
[16:28] <san_> tim__: thanks a lot, that was really useful :D
[16:31] <shane_> jcfp: no luck also i just tryed adept for updates and it gives me an error also,let me start at the begin,i am trying to install frostwire i followed install for 64bit kubuntu it stated i needed to remove java and reinstall the ia32-sun-java6-bin now i get the errors and adept is even crashing
[16:32] <genii> compilerwriter: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <firefox version>     where <firefox version> is either: firefox-2      or: firefox-3.0
[16:34] <jcfp> shane_: run apt-get update and put the error on pastebin.
[16:35] <shane_> jcfp: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:35] <shane_> jcfp: i no use dont like that but this is a short error
[16:37] <genii> compilerwriter: For future reference, version 3.0 would be version 3.0, beta 5   and later will become 3.0, release candidate 1    then possibly other releases candidate versions, then 3.0, release
[16:37] <jcfp> shane_: have another apt process running somewhere?
[16:37] <jcfp> maybe from adept, or a cron job?
[16:37] <shane_> jcfp: the errors for addept are signall 11 and signal 6
[16:39] <compilerwriter> Thanks genii why did it have me uninstall it in the first place.
[16:41] <shane_> jcfp: yes addept had crashed i got rid of that and now im waiting for the serv to time out again and i will paste 4 u
[16:41] <jcfp> shane_: also pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list in case you still get timeouts
[16:41] <genii> compilerwriter: I don't know. PErhaps you have some nonstandard repositories which require lower lib versions than ff3 had.
[16:42] <bayko7> When I try to install kdegames, it won't go past [Waiting for headers], I tried through konsole aswell as adept?
[16:43] <bayko7> only for this specific package
[16:43] <The_ManU_212> envy-ng detects my ati radeon 9200 correctly, but says that the legacy driver which works with this card not available is for hardy, what to do for 3d acceleration?
[16:43] <genii> bayko7: Repositories are very slow. There was about 60Mb of updates overnight. Be patient
[16:43] <bayko7> is 20 minutes a long time at 0%??
[16:43] <shane_> jcfp: http://pastebin.ca/1033170
[16:44] <compilerwriter> genii thanks I seem to have firefox back now.
[16:44] <genii> bayko7: Yes, it is. But it will either eventually time out or else start getting the files
[16:44] <genii> bayko7: If it times out try again later.
[16:44] <bayko7> ok, thanks
[16:44] <genii> compilerwriter: You're welcome
[16:44] <jcfp> shane_: you're still using the canadian mirror... which apparently isn't working
[16:45] <shane_> jcfp: yes i understand that but when i try to access the edit in sudo it throws me an error also
[16:45] <genii> shane_: replace for the time being  ca.archive.ubuntu.com   with  debian.yorku.ca
[16:45] <Dragonath> heh, kaffeine went into a loop: preparing..., error - codec package installed!, preparing..., error - etc
[16:45] <Dragonath> what's wrong?
[16:46] <bayko7> how do you replace it with debian.yorku.ca
[16:46] <genii> Dragonath: I filed that bug yesterday
[16:46] <Dragonath> aha
[16:46] <Dragonath> does this mean no more videos for me today?
[16:46] <genii> Dragonath: With Totem, but I think may use same codec-detection and install stuff backend
[16:47] <Dragonath> is there an easy way for installing all those codecs for mplayer?
[16:47] <shane_> jcfp: can u give me the sudo command again to edit the mirror i will do it again and paste the error 4 that
[16:48] <jcfp> shane_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:49] <shane_> jcfp: ok that one opened kate 4 me now where am i changing
[16:49] <genii> Dragonath: I'm just curious, what codec is it that keeps giving the prob?
[16:50] <jcfp> replace any occurence of "ca.archive.ubuntu.com" with some working server, like "nl.archive.ubuntu.com" or the one genii just suggested
[16:50] <Dragonath> genii: it's an avi file I try to play, I don't know much more
[16:51] <genii> Dragonath: Ah, OK. My bug report from yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/235648     Perhaps it's the Mpeg stuff.
[16:51] <chev_chelios> dudes, is there a problem with a server?
[16:53] <compilerwriter> Alright then ladies and gents, my next issue is an opensource accounting suite with a really sweet interface such that I won't be opining for Quickbooks pro.  I have tried gnucash and it just didn't do the job.  Perhaps someone out there has developed a really good frontend for it?
[16:53] <genii> compilerwriter: PErhaps KMymoney
[16:53] <shane_> jcfp: now do i save the changes or is it ok
[16:53] <genii> !info kmymoney2 | compilerwriter
[16:54] <jcfp> shane_: should be. save, then re-run the apt-get stuff
[16:54] <shane_> ok
[16:54] <shane_> sudo apt-get update
[16:55] <genii> jcfp: Run first the sudo apt-get update     before running sudo apt-get upgrade   or similar, to renew the package lists
[16:55] <jcfp> ;)
[16:55] <genii> bah misdirect
[16:55]  * genii gets a new mug of coffee
[16:55] <shane_> ok that worked
[16:55] <shane_> sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:56] <chev_chelios> do I suppose to do apt-get autoclean or autoremove???
[16:56] <shane_> jcfp: ok they are both working now it must have been the ca sight not my system
[16:57] <sigma_1234> im so disappointed. theres no kde 4.1 beta 1 packages yet for kubuntu
[16:57] <compilerwriter> genii I will give that a try.  Perhaps it will work for me personally.  Is there and enterprises scale solution for corporate bean counters?
[16:58] <robertknight> sigma_1234: It has only been out a couple of days.  Give the poor guys a chance
[16:58] <genii> Interesting. Did not see anything about DB migration in freenode MOTD
[16:58] <shane_> jcfp: in the future if i incure this error i can just go into kate again and change back nl to ca?
[16:58] <genii> compilerwriter: None that i know of offhand
[16:58] <Sneedly> how do i install flash player on a x 64 system
[16:58] <Sneedly> !flash
[16:59] <sigma_1234> lol fair enough . i just dont get how the other distros have their packages so quickly
[16:59] <compilerwriter> genii where would it have popped up in my menu?
[16:59] <chev_chelios> do I suppose to do apt-get autoclean or autoremove???
[17:00] <jcfp> shane_: yes, no problem at all. those servers just mirror the exact same content.
[17:00] <genii> compilerwriter: Look under Utilities or Office
[17:00] <shane_> jcfp: thank you iv got it all good now
[17:00] <jcfp> shane_: yw
[17:03] <shane_> jcfp: ok one more ? does kubuntu have a firewall or is it my dlink router thats blockin frostwire
[17:04] <Pita> Kubuntu has a firewall, nothing is enabled by default, so it's probably your router blocking frostwire
[17:04] <shane_> Pita:  ok will try and access it
[17:04] <Sneedly> !kde
[17:08] <aljoscha> hello, my openoffice writer has a freeze and i didn't save many text, but at the moment i'm not able to save... is there an temporary file with my unsaved text?
[17:12] <shane_> ok i have tryed the firewall in router it apears to be disabled where do i find firewall in kubuntu
[17:13] <stdin> unless you setup the firewall in kubuntu, it's disabled
[17:13] <tzd> can someone please tell me how to connect, via samba, to my usb hdd that's connected to my router? I have set up everything but i just can't connect to it? Samba never seems to work for me, even between computers... Please help someone?
[17:13] <Sneedly> help please whats kdm and gdm
[17:13] <whizl2> hi,
[17:14] <Sneedly> I am trying to set up kubuntu for the first time and I dont want to make a mistake
[17:14] <whizl2> can someone help me with my usb microphone?
[17:14] <Sneedly> !kdm
[17:14] <whizl2> its in kmix,
[17:14] <genii> tzd: So your rouer has an external USB HDD attached directly to it, as in a print server type of router, or it's attached to another computer, then to the router?
[17:14] <tzd> Sneedly: kdm and gdm are two different desktops... KDE and GNOME
[17:15] <tzd> genii: as a print server type
[17:15] <stdin> tzd: display managers, not desktops
[17:15] <Sneedly> stdin: whats the difference
[17:15] <tzd> stdin: ok sorry, my bad
[17:16] <stdin> Sneedly: the display manager is the thing that starts the X session and lets you login. both kdm and gdm let you log into any desktop environment
[17:17] <whizl2> the microphone is desingned for open systems,
[17:17] <whizl2> perhaps someone can help me?
[17:17] <Sneedly> stdin:  I thought switching to linux would be like a cake walk,  does it make a difference which i choose.  I mean I want whats headiest
[17:18] <debian_> Hello
[17:18] <stdin> Sneedly: it's all about choice, now you actually have one :p I would suggest trying both Gnome and KDE to see which you like best
[17:18] <stdin> Sneedly: they both provide the same functionality so it's down to preference
[17:19] <simula> check out KDE4 in the KDE4 remix... a little rough around the edges, but very pretty and usable
[17:19] <USMarine> hello debian_ norwegian
[17:19] <whizl2> where can i connect an usb microphone with me soundcard?
[17:19] <debian_> I need to get a real install of ubuntu from wubi...
[17:19] <whizl2> i mean i connect the microphone over usb,
[17:20] <whizl2> and the soundcard is as a card inside,
[17:20] <USMarine> Sneedly kdm for Kde, gdm for gnome
[17:20] <whizl2> i can hear sound from the soundcard,
[17:20] <whizl2> but i cannot hear the voice over the microphone
[17:20] <shane_> ok i have made my router completely open now and i am still firewalled is there a way i can check and see if kubuntu is firewalled
[17:20] <whizl2> in kmix
[17:20] <whizl2> there are two devices,
[17:20] <stdin> USMarine: you don't have to use kdm for kde and gdm for gnome
[17:20] <whizl2> once the soundcard and than the microphone separate
[17:20] <USMarine> i know, but they come bundled that way
[17:21] <stdin> yeah
[17:21] <USMarine> back in the day, kde couldn't do so many shutdown options if the login manager wasn't kdm
[17:21] <USMarine> debian_ wubi?
[17:22] <Sneedly> ill try out this kdm jawn.  i'll be back in a bit.  I was wondering how to get something like counter strike to work with linux but that is for another day
[17:22] <stdin> !wubi | USMarine
[17:23] <Sneedly> thank you all. well 3 or 4 that helped
[17:23] <USMarine> i heard about that, didn't know the name though
[17:23] <debian_> I need to boot livecds from grub
[17:23] <debian_> Can this be done?
[17:23] <belzebub> !kde4
[17:23] <genii> tzd: Apologies for lag. Am at work and they required me for a period. What is the router model/make please
[17:24] <jcfp> shane_: frostwire may "detect" any pc behind a router as "firewalled" regardless of whether there's any firewall on it
[17:24] <tzd> genii: no problem :) Asus WL-500gP
[17:24] <genii> tzd: OK. Some time to research, I'll report back
[17:24] <tzd> genii: ok, thanks!
[17:25] <whizl2> can someone help me with my microphone?
[17:25] <tzd> genii: i should mentioned i've got OLEG custom firmware installed on it, latest version
[17:25] <USMarine> whizl2 tias
[17:25] <USMarine> try and see
[17:25] <genii> tzd: Ah, good to catch me then. Is there a website for the maker of the firmware?
[17:26] <USMarine> whizl2 http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=ubuntu+usb+mic&btnG=Search
[17:26] <shane_> jcfp: ok then how am i fixin it cause all its doin is error after error and i have opened my router completely
[17:26] <tzd> genii: http://oleg.wl500g.info/  I'm also wondering how to set the workgroup on my kubuntu? According to the guides I've set up the router but my guess is that somethign is wrong in kubuntu... i haven't seen a place to configure samba on it?
[17:26] <genii> tzd: nvm, google indicates openwrt
[17:27] <tzd> genii: it's not openwrt although it's popular as well
[17:27] <USMarine> ddwrt ftw
[17:28] <genii> tzd: Samba does not require to be installed for access from a linux client to a windows/samba share. Only to share from linux to windows or other boxes using this protocol. smbclient is all that is needed normally, which is in default install.
[17:28] <jcfp> shane_: frostwire tells me too that it detected a firewall but it works fine regardless of that. so there might be nothing to fix.
[17:29] <genii> tzd: When you do in Konq or Dolphin      smb:/router-ip-address                     do you see it?
[17:29] <shane_> no it gives me an error and when i close that it gives another timeafter time if i leave it it gives 150 intotal and i cant use the window atall
[17:30] <tzd> genii: hmm ok, then it most likely should work... I've tried this in "Krusader" smb://<IP_ADDRESS> (which is my routers ip) but all i receive is "the file or folder does not exist"
[17:30] <tzd> genii: same issue in konq
[17:30] <Sneedly> help again.  i got this message  "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet""
[17:31] <Sneedly> do i want to delete it?
[17:31] <genii> tzd: Try with only a single /
[17:31] <tzd> genii: got the same error message with a single /
[17:32] <Greendingbat> hey all
[17:32] <Sneedly> hello
[17:32] <Greendingbat> i had a question about kubuntu
[17:32] <Greendingbat> im running it in a VM
[17:32] <Greendingbat> VMware server to be specific
[17:32] <genii> tzd: Put only:                  smb:/                                 then wait perhaps 30 seconds. Then hit f5  and wait another 30-45 seconds.
[17:32] <Greendingbat> and it has it's VM tools
[17:33] <USMarine> Greendingbat so?
[17:33] <Greendingbat> and it downloads them as a dvd
[17:33] <Greendingbat> how do i install them?
[17:33] <tzd> genii: when doing that it takes about 1 second and then i see the workgroup
[17:33] <genii> tzd: Is t?he computer using a static ip or a dhcp one from router
[17:33] <USMarine> Greendingbat extract, open console, run the command to install inside the folder
[17:33] <Greendingbat> well, that's the prob
[17:33] <tzd> genii: dhcp
[17:33] <Greendingbat> i can't extract
[17:34] <USMarine> install ark
[17:34] <Greendingbat> ark?
[17:34] <USMarine> !ark
[17:34] <genii> tzd: OK. So can you browse from workgroup to the router?
[17:34] <Greendingbat> i think i have ark already
[17:34] <Greendingbat> isn't that the crash handler?
[17:34] <USMarine> no
[17:34] <USMarine> right click the package
[17:34] <Greendingbat> k
[17:34] <USMarine> hit extract to
[17:35] <Greendingbat> extract to subdir?
[17:35] <tzd> genii: i tried browsing the workgroup but when clicking it i received the previous message "file or folder smb:/workgroup does not exist"
[17:36] <Greendingbat> USMarine: it gives me this message
[17:36] <USMarine> what message?
[17:36] <Greendingbat> COuld not create the folder file:///scd0
[17:37] <Greendingbat> and then ark pops up
[17:37] <USMarine> you can't extract it inside the dvd
[17:37] <Greendingbat> i see
[17:37] <USMarine> copy the package into the desktop
[17:37] <tzd> genii: do i need to change permissions or anything on the samba share hdd? According to OLEG fw I'm suppose to share samba via web ui. I've done that and set it to share all partitions and set default access level to read/write
[17:37] <Greendingbat> k
[17:37] <eskatos> hi
[17:38] <eskatos> how big is the default kubuntu 8.04 install ?
[17:38] <USMarine> hi french
[17:38] <eskatos> hi USMarine
[17:38] <genii> tzd: OK. On the router, you set I hope the same workgroup name. Not knowing it's setup secreens, etc difficult to guide. But basic idea would be:   same workgroup name, some globally shared folder on the drive or else guest settings or such. Also it may sometimes need lan ports 135 139 forwarded to it's own ip
[17:38] <USMarine> i'd say 2gb
[17:38] <molla> hello people
[17:38] <Greendingbat> no
[17:38] <Greendingbat> not that big
[17:38] <Greendingbat> the iso?
[17:38] <Greendingbat> or the install?
[17:38] <eskatos> the default install size on disk
[17:39] <Greendingbat> oh
[17:39] <Greendingbat> yeah, it's about 2gigs
[17:39] <USMarine> ...
[17:39] <TimS> eskatos: For me it was arround 1.9 gig for Kubuntu
[17:39] <eskatos> around 2GB is good for me thanks
[17:39] <molla> is it the 8.04 a DVD ISO or a CD ISO?
[17:39] <USMarine> (17:38:21) (USMarine) i'd say 2gb
[17:39] <USMarine> molla it can be both
[17:40] <Greendingbat> i'd prefer the cd iso
[17:40] <molla> ooh 8)
[17:40] <Greendingbat> it's easier to work with
[17:40] <genii> tzd: Also... is the drive formatted? Etc
[17:40] <USMarine> i prefer network install
[17:40] <USMarine> who cares...
[17:40] <tzd> genii: I've got 2 settings: Workgroup name (which is set to what i see on my kubuntu) and Host name. Will it matter what kind of host name I have?
[17:40] <tzd> genii: yes the drive is formatted as ext3
[17:41] <Greendingbat> how do i give myself sudo privilages?
[17:41] <tzd> genii: will try open ports 135 and 139
[17:41] <USMarine> sudo command
[17:41] <tzd> Greendingbat: sudo cmd and then type your sudo password
[17:41] <Greendingbat> k
[17:41] <molla> sudo useradd username admin
[17:41] <genii> tzd: You should put a hostname without spaces or weird stuff not normally allowed in conventional windows networking. Something in uppercase less than 8 characters would be preferable.
[17:41] <USMarine> sudo ./vmware...
[17:41] <molla> thats the magik command
[17:42] <tzd> genii: ok, then host name is ok. I had everything in uppercase including workgroup... is that case sensitive?
[17:43] <genii> tzd: linux can use it case sensitive but older windows clients make all uppercase.
[17:43] <tzd> genii: ah ok.. should be alright then
[17:43] <Greendingbat> yeah
[17:43] <Greendingbat> it's kinda annoying getting used to case sensitive
[17:43] <genii> tzd: Also ensure broadcast address is set properly
[17:43] <Greendingbat> i used to use DOS
[17:44] <genii> tzd: Otherwise the server cannot announce to clients it exists
[17:44] <Greendingbat> so im used to non-case sensitive
[17:44] <tzd> genii: isn't broadcast for WLAN?
[17:44] <tzd> genii: i'm on wire
[17:44] <USMarine> Greendingbat when gas runs out, you'll have to get used to it
[17:44] <Greendingbat> that is true
[17:44] <Greendingbat> so, im in the dir of the install file
[17:45] <genii> tzd: if lan range is <IP_ADDRESS>    normal broadcast would be <IP_ADDRESS> (unless subnetted)
[17:45] <Greendingbat> and it won't let me run it
[17:45] <Greendingbat> i type sudo vmware-install.pl
[17:45] <tomahasamoot> I'm having trouble with Skype, it crashes every time I try to open the "audio devices" tab in options
[17:45] <Greendingbat> and it says that it's not a bash command
[17:45] <USMarine> sudo ./ vmware-install.pl
[17:45] <tomahasamoot> it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:45] <mmc> hello
[17:45] <USMarine> sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[17:45] <Greendingbat> tomahsasmoot: that's because skype is a piece of junk
[17:46] <mmc> genii si mogoče iz Slovenije ?
[17:46] <genii> mmc: nyet
[17:46] <tomahasamoot> as is the GPL VOIP stuff I've tried... what do you use?
[17:46] <Greendingbat> i use MSN
[17:46] <USMarine> skype
[17:46] <mmc> ok no problem :)
[17:46] <Greendingbat> and oovoo
[17:46] <tzd> genii: hmm ok .I've got IP Pool Ending Address: set to -> <IP_ADDRESS> .... should this be changed to .255?
[17:46] <Greendingbat> ooVoo is GREAT
[17:47] <Greendingbat> you can have more than one person vid calls
[17:47] <Greendingbat> up to 8 i think
[17:47] <tomahasamoot> ooVoo?
[17:47] <Greendingbat> www.oovoo.com
[17:47] <genii> tzd: No, pool is different than broadcast. Thats fine
[17:47] <USMarine> i can't talk to more than 1 person on msn
[17:47] <Greendingbat> it's still in beta
[17:47] <tzd> genii: ok, good
[17:47] <Greendingbat> so there are some bugs
[17:47] <USMarine> lol, beta
[17:47] <Greendingbat> but not as bad as skype
[17:47] <Greendingbat> yeah
[17:47] <Greendingbat> the skype plugin kept crashing my webbrowser
[17:47] <USMarine> tomahasamoot get the static linked version
[17:48] <genii> tzd: If netmask settings, use <IP_ADDRESS>   on lan side of stuff. This auto-sets (normally) broadcast to proper
[17:48] <mikesa81> amarok completely disappeared from my system!? wtf???
[17:48] <tomahasamoot> USMarine: that's the version I have... it was all going so well, untill now
[17:48] <USMarine> is skype working for you?
[17:49] <tomahasamoot> it was, until now
[17:49] <Greendingbat> it WORKS per se
[17:49] <Greendingbat> just not WELL
[17:49] <USMarine> if it works
[17:49] <tzd> genii: i see. Then it should definitely be alright. I'm finding the port forwarding bit a bit confusing on this router... my old netgear was a lot easier :P Isn't port forwarding for devices outside my network though?
[17:49] <USMarine> just skip the devices tab
[17:50] <tomahasamoot> Greendingbat: does ooVoo work on Win32?  The person on the other end has windows
[17:50] <Greendingbat> yeah
[17:50] <Greendingbat> it was made for windows
[17:50] <Greendingbat> i use windows
[17:50] <molla> MMC you there
[17:50] <molla> Windows?
[17:50] <tomahasamoot> Greendingbat: in that case, does it also work well on Linux?
[17:50] <USMarine> i use w64...too bad
[17:50] <tzd> genii: I've tried a setting for manual share, will rs my router to see if that helps, brb
[17:51] <Greendingbat> 64-bit windows?
[17:51] <Greendingbat> nice
[17:51] <ScorpKing-Laptop> !windows
[17:51] <genii> tzd: Most cheaper routers have only from external port to some internal ip, same port.     Better ones have external port to internal ip, different port. Best ones have that plus internal port to internal IP, different port
[17:51] <Greendingbat> i just found out that ubuntu has a 64 bit ver
[17:52] <Greendingbat> my friend is having trouble getting it to recognize all 4 gigs of his mem
[17:52] <USMarine> 32bits os or faulty bios
[17:53] <dude> Hi.. I installed Hardy the other day.. But the default sound driver installed is giving sound output only on 2 of the 4 speakers I have connected to the system.. I have an Asus mother board with nforce 630a..How do I install the proper driver if available?
[17:53] <tzd> genii: ah i see. i've got LAN to WAN and vice versa. Then I've got port triggering... that's basically the areas I have on this one
[17:53] <USMarine> install alsa gui
[17:53] <USMarine> dude install alsa gui, and test if some fader is down
[17:53] <genii> tzd: Good.
[17:54] <tomahasamoot> well Skype may be crap, but at least they have a Linux version, ooVoo doesn't, so that's not much help
[17:54] <ScorpKing-Laptop> Greendingbat: sometimes it's because the bios doesn't see 4GB
[17:54] <genii> tzd: Windows networking ports are 135 and 139
[17:54] <shane_> Odd-rationale: hello im havin a prob with frostwire its locking out due to firewall
[17:54] <USMarine> tomahasamoot exactly
[17:55] <USMarine> dude no queries
[17:55] <tzd> genii: i see. Will that still be of importance even though im using 2 linux based systems?
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> shane_: i nevered used frostwire. i always used torrents for p2p
[17:55] <bayko7> Is there a program similar to Fruity Loops Studio for Kubuntu?
[17:55] <dude> USMarine - I didnt understand..
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> !frostwire
[17:55] <jabba> i just installed the nvidia-xconfig package, and my resolution got shrunk to 1280x1024. i have a 1680x1050 modeline in the x config, how do i get it to take the correct resolution?
[17:55] <USMarine> dude use synaptic to find the alsa mixer gui package
[17:56] <genii> tzd: The protocol that samba wants to use will still require 135 and 139 :) As for any OS/web browser still requires port 80 for instance
[17:56] <shane_> Odd-rationale: ahh ic well can u explain how i can check and see what the settings for firewall are in kubuntu
[17:56] <USMarine> jabba sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:57] <tzd> genii: aha ok. Which of the areas should i open the ports on? port triggering seems like the best idea imho but i don't know :) There i've got to choose between tcp and udp ports
[17:57] <Odd-rationale> shane_: did you look at the wiki page posted my ubottu ^ ?
[17:58] <shane_> didnt see it
[17:58] <stdin> your ubottu? ;p
[17:58] <shane_> Odd-rationale: didnt see it
[17:58] <genii> tzd: udp for both ports and set the ip to the router
[17:58] <stdin> it MINE!
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> /smy/by
[17:58] <shane_> Odd-rationale: will look now ty
[17:58] <tzd> genii: just realised 1 thing... is there a built in firewall on kubuntu such as there is for windows?
[17:58] <jabba> USMarine: arg, so i have the proper resolution now, but no nvidia hardware acel. :(
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> shane_: hope that helps
[17:58] <tzd> genii: ok, will change that straight away
[17:59] <sgraham> ok, the other day i was able to extend my desktop off to a scond monitor
[17:59] <genii> tzd: If you installed somethihng like firestarter or so
[17:59] <shane_> Odd-rationale: me 2
[17:59] <ScorpKing-Laptop> genii: i managed to get printing working properly. had to install firmware but the errors are still tere. i can't remember who else i talked to but thanks for the help everyone. i'll sort my laptop out next week as i'm movieng this weekend. :)
[17:59] <sgraham> for some reason the tool in the system settings for my display is hella wack
[17:59] <genii> tzd: Work requires me, AFK
[17:59] <ScorpKing-Laptop> moving*
[18:00] <tzd> genii: ok, then I'm safe... don't have any software fw installed.  Ok, I'll try some things meanwhile you're working
[18:00] <USMarine> jabba i'm not sure, never had such problem
[18:00] <tzd> genii: thanks a lot for your help so far!
[18:00] <jabba> USMarine: ok, thx
[18:00] <USMarine> trying googling for something
[18:00] <frybye> Hi - I have got google earth 4.2 to work in 64x kubuntu 8.04 - but how do I set up the thing with $browser  ??
[18:01] <frybye> - so that when clicking on links in g-earth the browser is found.. default browser is f-fox - but google-earth dosent find it..?
[18:03] <sportman> have any of you guys found a launch menu or anything for kubuntu
[18:03] <sportman> i was looking at the asus_eee pc
[18:03] <sportman> and they had kde installed, but they had this tabbed system launcher
[18:03] <sportman> for accessing applications
[18:04] <Odd-rationale> sportman: you mean the new kicker nemu?
[18:04] <sportman> seemed like something simple for linux new comers, anyone know what launcher it was?
[18:04] <sportman> i suppose?
[18:04] <sportman> Odd-rationale basically i know my way around linux pretty well but i want to get my friends using it
[18:04] <sportman> and the more dumbed down it is, the easier for them
[18:04] <Odd-rationale> sportman: that is new in kde4
[18:04]  * sportman takes a look
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> default in kde4, too. i beleive
[18:05] <sportman> really?
[18:05] <sportman> maybe im mistaking something
[18:06] <sportman> Odd-rationale maybe we are not thinking of the same thing
[18:06] <Odd-rationale> sportman: sorry, it is called kickoff, not kicker....
[18:06] <Odd-rationale> sportman: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html
[18:06] <sportman> ah thanks Odd-rationale
[18:07] <sportman> Odd-rationale thats not what i was thinking of
[18:07] <sportman> but that is dam nice
[18:08] <Odd-rationale> sportman: maybe katapult? http://katapult.kde.org/screenshots
[18:09] <sportman> not really Odd-rationale, maybe its something asus did
[18:09] <sportman> for their eee_pc linux version
[18:09] <sportman> cause i havent been able to find examples anywhere else
[18:09] <genii> tzd: I am back for a few minutes now. Getting anywhere?
[18:10] <lordneon> hey, has anyone got an acer aspire 1672? and managed to get the wireless to work
[18:10] <tzd> genii: well I've opened the ports in port triggering but since i restarted my router i had to wait for the hdds to be checked.. completely forgot i had a disk checker script... so it'll probably take some time :/
[18:10] <Odd-rationale> oh, you mean the eeepc interface? that is something asus did to the xandros os
[18:10] <sportman> yea, Odd-rationale it was pretty impressive
[18:11] <sportman> they made it so simple, yet still functional
[18:11] <dude> USMarine - I installed the alsa mixer gui and increased volume on all the allowed tabs.. still no sound on 2 of my speakers.. just a small hiss.. I read in the net something about nforce drivers.. doi i need too install that?
[18:11] <genii> tzd: OK. I'll go do some chores and return
[18:11] <sportman> i want to start building custom linux pc's for non experienced linux users
[18:11] <sportman> so im trying to find the easiest interface
[18:11] <tzd> genii: please do, thanks so far!
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> sportman: you can get something similar with ubuntu mobile http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> but that uses gtk, i think
[18:14] <sportman> Odd-rationale that looks really nice
[18:14] <sportman> im trying to find a downlaod
[18:14] <Odd-rationale> sportman: try the #ubuntu-mobile channel
[18:16] <robertknight> sportman:  There was a project to get KDE into educational environments
[18:16] <robertknight> skolelinux?
[18:16] <robertknight> They created a new "especially for kids" front-end.  I think the story is in the dot.kde.org archives somewhere
[18:21] <genii> tzd: fsck finishing yet?
[18:22] <TimS> Anyone seen SSJ today?
[18:22] <tzd> genii: yep
[18:22] <tzd> genii: same issue I'm afraid. It finds the workgroup but then nothing
[18:22] <simula> i have mounted my /home and /usr to an sd card so that i can move my apps from one box to another
[18:22] <xenol> plz where can i find place where apt stores downloaded *.deb ?
[18:23] <simula> but some applications aren't happy... firefox won't start
[18:23] <Pici> xenol: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[18:23] <simula> what am i missing in my attempt to install apps on one box and then move them to another?
[18:24] <simula> i'm moving my apps and user data between my desktop and my laptop (eeepc)
[18:24] <genii> tzd: OK. Then to konsole.    smbclient -L -I <ip>      eg       smbclient -L -I<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:24] <genii> tzd: Any services reported?
[18:25] <xenol> Pici: thx
[18:25] <tzd> genii:  johan@Penguin:~$ smbclient -L -I<IP_ADDRESS> Connection to -I<IP_ADDRESS> failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[18:27] <ScorpKing-Laptop> tzd: <IP_ADDRESS> is a windows box?
[18:28] <tzd> ScorpKing-Laptop: it's a asus WL-500gP router with some linux dist. on it
[18:28] <ScorpKing-Laptop> tzd: that error is usually from bad network settings.
[18:28] <tzd> ScorpKing-Laptop: well probably not a full linux dist. but i think it's called "static binary" or something?
[18:28] <tzd> ScorpKing-Laptop: hmm ok
[18:29] <genii> tzd: Ah, aplogies, syntax incorrect on my part. Instead:            smbclient -I<IP_ADDRESS> -P
[18:29] <tzd> genii: no problem, will try that new one :)
[18:30] <ScorpKing-Laptop> tzd: it is the workgroup or computername or someting stupid like that that gives that error. can't remember now
[18:30] <tzd> genii: Failed to open /var/lib/samba/secrets.tdb ERROR: Unable to open secrets database
[18:30] <genii> ScorpKing-Laptop: The -L option I supplied needed an argument (netbios name)
[18:30] <tzd> ScorpKing-Laptop: ok, I've got "Ravenwood" as workgroup
[18:31] <tzd> genii: , ScorpKing-Laptop I'll be back in 15 min, food... sorry!
[18:31] <ScorpKing-Laptop> genii: righto.. will remember that
[18:32] <genii> tzd: -N  should suppress password query.          smbclient -I<IP_ADDRESS> -P -N
[18:34] <genii> gah
[18:34] <aSuZ> www.free-stream.fr
[18:34] <genii> Anyone else getting weird msgs from nickserv?
[18:34] <ScorpKing-Laptop> genii: yes me
[18:34] <stdin> genii: it's back up, re-identify
[18:35] <genii> stdin: I did but it thinks my nick is genii-around
[18:35] <stdin> genii-around: apparently that's your master nick now :p
[18:36] <genii> stdin: Damn
[18:36] <genii> stdin: Won't let me auth
[18:36] <stdin> did you use the pass for genni-around?
[18:36] <NekosolTeraDyne> It thinks my name is "TeraDyne"
[18:37] <NekosolTeraDyne> but, it does show me as logged in
[18:37] <genii> NekosolTeraDyne: Same idea here
[18:37] <chx> where is the password stored for freenode? i can't identify. I forgot my password.
[18:38] <genii> stdin: It must be one I created a while ago
[18:38] <NekosolTeraDyne> Meh, I wouldn't worry about it until they get done with whatever it is they're doing.
[18:38] <chx> i mean, when i connect, konversation supplies the password as the server password.
[18:38] <chx> oh
[18:38] <chx> konversationrc.
[18:38] <chx> thanks.
[18:39] <stdin> genii: I guess you'll have to ask the staff for help then
[18:39] <genii> stdin: Bah
[18:41] <Choreboy> stdin: you're an operator of this channel? What does that mean? Is that like a moderator?
[18:41] <stdin> moderator/operator are interchangeable terms really
[18:41] <Choreboy> got it.
[18:42] <Choreboy> I want to be an operator someday. "I banish you to the depths of ##Heck"
[18:42] <asraniel_> quick, my gf tells me that kaffeine tells her that she does not has the rights to read a video DVD, how to solve?
[18:43] <Choreboy> use VLC?
[18:43] <stdin> asraniel_: make sure they are in the cdrom group
[18:43] <Choreboy> j/k!
[18:43] <asraniel_> stdin: she could read dvds until yesterday
[18:44] <sgraham> grrrr video issues blow
[18:47] <biagidp> Hey all.  I just recently started using the kde-desktop on top of my ubuntu installation because gnome was giving me some performance issues.  KDE has cleared up the issues and I'm enjoying it, but I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good weather-checking applet/widget?
[18:48] <Schorfi> liquidweather for superkaramba
[18:48] <Schorfi> or kweather for kicker
[18:48] <biagidp> are those part of KDE or are they like a separate widget dock I would need to get?
[18:49] <Schorfi> superkaramba is part of kde, however liquidweather is a non-kde plugin for it
[18:49] <compilerwriter> !superkaramba
[18:50] <Schorfi> exactly
[18:50] <simula> is there a way for many machines to mount a directory that allows them to share installed applications?
[18:50] <stdin> simula: look into nfs
[18:50] <stdin> !nfs
[18:51] <compilerwriter> schorfi is superkaramba compatible with compiz?
[18:51] <Schorfi> yeah
[18:51] <simula> stdin... i'm really wanting to mount a directory to an sd card and move it between a laptop and a desktop
[18:51] <simula> i have mounted /usr and /home, but some apps don't like the move
[18:51] <stdin> simula: that's not mounting, that's just copying files
[18:52] <simula> stdin... i have partitioned the sd card into two partitions, each one mounts to the machine as /usr and /home at boot up
[18:52] <jabba> if i have compiz installed, and xgl installed, how do i get compiz to use it? it says it's not present.
[18:52] <simula> using fstab
[18:52] <stdin> simula: ok, so what's not working
[18:52] <stdin> ?
[18:53] <simula> i install firefox on my desktop, and it shows up in kde4 like magic on my laptop's launcher, but when i click on the icon it won't launch :/
[18:53] <simula> photoshop via wine works great
[18:54] <stdin> try launching it from a console and see if any errors come up
[18:54] <doktor_> a
[18:56] <asraniel_> warg, my gf changes back to windows because kubuntu has too many bugs... what a shame....
[18:57] <trappist> asraniel_: ironic, too
[18:58] <asraniel_> trappist: yes.. and she realy has many bugs, realy big ones, i never have such problems, it's realy wierd
[18:58] <trappist> iono, maybe she has some unsupported hardware
[18:58] <asraniel_> her biggest problem is her intel graphics card
[18:59] <asraniel_> today her screen went blank 2 times, she had to hard reboot the computer
[18:59] <asraniel_> then kaffeine didn't want to start anymore, until she killed it by hand, then it opend
[18:59] <asraniel_> then she could not open her video dvd
[18:59] <aldoo> hi, are the kde 4.1beta1 packages due for today ?
[18:59] <asraniel_> hardy is unusable for her, sometimes all videos are blue (not always)
[19:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> asraniel_: switch video output to x11
[19:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> should be in kaffeine's preferences
[19:01] <Myrth[home]> hi, where do i change to use subpixel font antialiasing?
[19:01] <asraniel_> Daisuke-Laptop: are you sure that works???? because it would be gread, i could upgrade her from gutsy to the LTS release
[19:03] <Myrth[home]> ok found :)
[19:04] <Choreboy> asraniel_: your gf seems to be in the twilight zone. Windows is more stable?
[19:04] <asraniel_> Choreboy: yes, much more
[19:04] <_sourcemaker> how stable is kde 4.1b?
[19:05] <nowhere> hi folks
[19:06] <EmJay> servus @ all
[19:06] <Choreboy> asraniel_: Well I dual-boot and I must say my windows is fairly stable, but it's also tweaked quite a bit
[19:06] <Choreboy> BUT, I do enjoy using Kubuntu more often. I only boot to XP when I need to do something I haven't learned/don't have time to learn (at the moment) in Kubuntu
[19:07] <Choreboy> I do have some noticable instability but it due to firefox issues
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> One of the things we discovered when Linux started getting popular was that a lot of the crashes and problems we blamed on Windows were actually hardware problems.
[19:08] <biagidp> Everytime I try to download the liquid weather plugin it opens the binary in kate.  Does anyone know how I can just save it?
[19:09] <stdin> right-click->Save as ?
[19:09] <biagidp> unfortunately that only saves a php file, and not the actual file I want to download
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> Nowadays there are windows drivers that compensate for some bad hardware better than some linux drivers, as well as the other way around.
[19:10] <jhutchins_wk> biagidp: Open the php file and see if it has the URL of the file you want.  Sounds like possibly a bogus webpage.
[19:10] <stdin> biagidp: you can try opening a console and use "wget <URL>"
[19:10] <Choreboy> jhutchins_wk: do you have example of bad hardware? Maybe a horror story?
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk> Nothing really fun, just stuff that breaks.  IDE controller chipsets were one.
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk> Memory controllers.
[19:14] <Choreboy> and you say drivers compensate for that?
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> Sometimes linux will catch bad RAM, because it uses all of the ram.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> Choreboy: In a "if 2 + 2 =5 then 4" kind of way, sometimes.
[19:14] <biagidp> Got it.  The php file it loaded was suspiciously large, so I renamed it to a .skz and it loaded right up
[19:15] <Choreboy> jhutchins_wk: ahhh. Damage control
[19:15] <Choreboy> well I suppose that's smart and probably a good thing to pursue when creating drivers?
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> Basic, common hardware is a lot better since the mid-to-late 90's because of Linux though.
[19:16] <Choreboy> not that you wouldn't want good hardware but... sometimes that's not an option
[19:18] <tzd> genii: still there? Tried the -N parameter but received the same error msg: Failed to open /var/lib/samba/secrets.tdb
[19:18] <tzd> genii: sorry that i took so long
[19:33] <tzd> genii: tried a few things on my own and now things changed for some reason. In console i typed:"smbclient -L <IP_ADDRESS>" I was then asked for a password. just pressed enter and i received info such as: Sharename       Type      Comment and everything was listed underneath
[19:34] <genii> Back
[19:35] <pim> Hey
[19:35] <genii> tzd: Good. See if you can now get there in file browser
[19:35] <dameouse> what packages do i need to install to be able to program with Qt 4.4 and c++?
[19:35] <pim> is there a command for getting information about packages? I mean: apt-cache *info* <package> or something like it
[19:36] <tzd> genii: when trying in a filebrowser i get the same error message as before: the file or the folder smb://ravenwood/ does not exist
[19:38] <shane2peru> quick question, on kontact, I setup an imap account, it checks the server, and gets the messages fine
[19:38] <Vermux> how do I c files in the windows partition using kubuntu on the same computer?
[19:38] <shane2peru> however when I click on a  message, it doesn't display the message?  Anyone know why?
[19:38] <shane2peru> Vermux: open Konsole and type:  mount
[19:39] <shane2peru> Vermux: that will tell you if the partition is mounted, then you should be able to navigate there with Dolphin and see the files.
[19:40] <shane2peru> Vermux you should see something like /mnt/windows or /mnt/ntfs or something, if it was setup to mount at the time of installation
[19:40] <Vermux> shane2peru: I dont c it there
[19:40] <Vermux> shane2peru: waht do I do?
[19:41] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, we are going to have to setup a mount point
[19:42] <shane2peru> Vermux: using paste bin paste the results of:   sudo fdisk -l                  .... Or if you can look at it and decipher what the results is you should be able to see your windows partition
[19:44] <Vermux> shane2peru: /dev/sda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:44] <shane2peru> Vermux: ahh, there ya go :)  I guess I should have known it would be the first
[19:44] <xst> How can I make (k)ubuntu reconfigure my screen- and mousepad settings again from scratch as if I reinstalled from scratch?
[19:44] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, now we are going to make a folder first with this:  sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[19:45] <Vermux> shane2peru: I copy and paste the row with the ntfs
[19:45] <Vermux> shane2peru: done
[19:45] <shane2peru> Vermux: now we are going to mount it and cross our fingers that Hardy already has the fuse thing installed with this:  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[19:46] <shane2peru> Vermux: if you get an error, please paste it, should be a one liner
[19:47] <Vermux> it says that udo is not installed. Should Instasll it?
[19:47] <shane2peru> Vermux: ooops, I think you missed the 's'  before sudo
[19:47] <Vermux> hehe
[19:47] <Vermux> yes
[19:47] <Vermux> corrected
[19:47] <shane2peru> Vermux: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[19:47] <Vermux> ok
[19:47] <shane2peru> no errors?
[19:48] <Vermux> no
[19:48] <Vermux> so far so good
[19:48] <shane2peru> gotta love hardy! :)
[19:48] <Vermux> that'sit?
[19:48] <Vermux> now, I will be able to c the windows partition?
[19:48] <shane2peru> ok, now to find that, just open Dolphin and navigate to Root folder, then click on mnt, then click on windows
[19:49] <shane2peru> Vermux: if you want to always have that mounted we would have to add that to your fstab,
[19:49] <Vermux> shane2peru: yay
[19:49] <Vermux> shane2peru: yes, I want it to be mounted all the time
[19:49] <shane2peru> I think that writing to ntfs may be still a trial and error thing,
[19:50] <shane2peru> Vermux: I'm not sure about that since I don't use ntfs at all
[19:50] <Vermux> shane2peru: u mean, writing or modifying documents in that partition?
[19:50] <Vermux> but no problem with opening documents, right?
[19:50] <shane2peru> Vermux: right, I mean the last time I used the ntfs fuser mount was back in Dapper, or Breezy days. :)
[19:51] <shane2peru> Vermux: correct, you should be able to open them without a problem, and like I said that is old news, things have probably gotten better.
[19:52] <Vermux> ok. got to go now, but I will need help how to change the fstab
[19:52] <shane2peru> Vermux: one second and I will find how to permanently add that to your fstab, do you want that on your Desktop for easy access?
[19:53] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, later someone can help you, it isn' t that difficult. :)
[19:53] <Vermux> ok, thanks
[19:53] <Vermux> be back later
[19:53] <shane2peru> Vermux: no prob
[19:57] <tzd> genii: i tried connecting and browse via terminal and that works well. It's just all the gui connections that won't work for some reason
[20:00] <genii> tzd: Sorry again for lag. Work is busier than normal today
[20:00] <Qster> hi i originally installed ubuntu 8.04 and did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:00] <tzd> genii: it's ok :)
[20:00] <Qster> how do i get my compiz and settings working again?
[20:00] <genii> tzd: Well, so we know then the basic setups are good.
[20:02] <tzd> genii: yep. I've asked at the samba channel as well and was told to: add a share name to that smb:// and then: try the netbios host name instead of the IP
[20:02] <rickest> Qster: start by seeing if it even works:  compiz --replace --sm-disable cpp
[20:03] <Qster> says could load plugin cppp
[20:03] <Qster> says could load plugin cpp
[20:03] <Qster> whole bunch of errors
[20:03] <genii> tzd: You might also try to add the option to use for hostname lookups bcast
[20:03] <Rudd-O> hi guise, I need help
[20:04] <Rudd-O> my control center keyboard shortcuts module says that the Contextual menu (right-click menu) keyboard shortcut is Shift+F10.  (normally it is assigned to the Menu key but we IBM Model M users don't have such a key).   now, the context menu doesn't work in any application.  Why could that be?
[20:04] <Rudd-O> halp plz? hehehee
[20:04] <rickest> er, type on my part sorry.  'ccp'
[20:04] <Rudd-O> I really want to break free from mouse dependency
[20:04] <genii> tzd: In the smbclient syntax it would be    -R bcast
[20:06] <tzd> genii: ok will give that a try immediately
[20:06] <Rudd-O> can someone confirm if you can even read me?
[20:06] <tempest> can someone please help me figure out a problem i'm  having  when I log out of kubuntu the screen just goes black
[20:07] <shane2peru> does anyone know what package I need to sync palm with Kontact?
[20:07] <genii> tzd: Back in 2-3 minutes
[20:07] <Rudd-O> hi guise
[20:07] <Rudd-O> do you read me?
[20:07] <shane2peru> tempest: do you have ATI driver?
[20:07] <tempest> no its nvidia
[20:08] <Odd-rationale> Rudd-O: no
[20:08] <Rudd-O> Odd-rationale: thanks for confirming
[20:08] <Rudd-O> hahaa
[20:08] <Rudd-O> ok
[20:08] <shane2peru> tempest: hmm, that is probably the culprit, does the cpu actually shut off?
[20:08] <Rudd-O> now to the question
[20:08] <tempest> shane2peru  it just goes black
[20:08] <shane2peru> tempest: it doesn't shut off?
[20:08] <Rudd-O> my control center keyboard shortcuts module says that the Contextual menu (right-click menu) keyboard shortcut is Shift+F10.  (normally it is assigned to the Menu key but we IBM Model M users don't have such a key).  now, the context menu doesn't work in any application.  Why could that be?
[20:08] <Qster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15614/ is the errors i get with compiz
[20:08] <shane2peru> tempest: I'm not sure about that, I know nothing of nvidia
[20:09] <tempest> shane2peru  everything except logout works
[20:09] <shane2peru> tempest: ahhh, then certainly nvidia is the problem, do you have the restricted drivers installed?
[20:10] <tempest> shane2peru  i used envyng  and had to use the legacy driver
[20:10] <Qster> well by typing the compiz thing it seemed to have worked but i cant seem to get more than 2 desktops
[20:10] <tzd> genii: ok. Tried the -R bcast but that doesn't seem to do anything? tried: smbclient -R bcast <IP_ADDRESS> , tried without bcast etc
[20:10] <shane2peru> tempest: I'm not real familiar with nvidia, my wife's computer has ATI and it had issues with that too, I installed envy and the latest ATI drivers and that cleared it up for me.
[20:11] <rickest> Qster: run 'ccsm' and/or kcontrol, should be able to set desktops/virtual desktops in those
[20:11] <shane2peru> does anyone know what package I need to sync palm with Kontact?
[20:11] <tempest> shane2peru   its more annoying than anything
[20:11] <snizzy1> @rickest
[20:11] <snizzy1> whats your problem,
[20:11] <snizzy1> does the graphic hang up? after some seconds?
[20:12] <shane2peru> tempest: I know, I wish I had an answer for ya.
[20:12] <Qster> is there like a page i can goto to go from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[20:13] <frueber> Qster there is
[20:13] <shane2peru> Qster: you want to install and use Kubuntu?
[20:13] <tempest> shane2peru    well I've searched the forums and all over google and havent found anything to fix it for nvidia   that is why I was starting to wonder if it was just me
[20:13] <Qster> ive already sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:13] <rickest> Qster: log out of KDE, select which WM you want when the display manager appears (log-in screen)
[20:13] <rickest> shane2peru: he installed ubuntu, then
[20:13] <shane2peru> tempest: you can always post on the forums, I would post on ubuntuforums.org
[20:14] <rickest> 'kubuntu-desktop' so he has both
[20:14] <tempest> shane2peru  well i couldnt figure out exactly were to post it   im so new to this stuff
[20:14] <rickest> Qster: also now that you know compiz works put the command we did earlier in a shell script in ~/.kde/Autorun
[20:15] <shane2peru> tempest: hmm, probably in the general forums, the reason I suggest the ubuntuforums rather than the Kubuntu is they get a little more visited. :)  This seems to be more of an ubuntu/nvidia issue
[20:15] <rickest> Qster: so it'll start automatically from now on
[20:15] <Qster> whats a shell script?
[20:15] <tempest> shane2peru thank you
[20:15] <shane2peru> tempest: no prob
[20:16] <genii> back
[20:17] <snizzy1> hi people, can someone help me?
[20:17] <PhilTrunk> snizzy1: just ask
[20:18] <Qster> how do i install kdm?
[20:18] <genii> tzd: if you have the ip address there it thinks thts a resolution protocol, like lmhosts bcast or so on. You need before the ip -I    or do differently:    smbclient //name-or-ip -R bcast
[20:18] <snizzy1> how can i record with my webcam,
[20:19] <Qster> i also cant seem to get more than 2 desktops, when i click properties and change it to 4 it just stays at 2
[20:19] <snizzy1> or how is it possible to activate the stream and get something from the cam,
[20:19] <snizzy1> through the usbport
[20:19] <snizzy1> its connected via my usb port
[20:20] <genii> Qster: sudo apt-get install kdm                if you currently have gdm it should prompt for which to use as default. If it doesn't, do:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[20:20] <snizzy1> i think the stream is sent automatically, if a special command is sent?
[20:22] <dell> salut
[20:24] <Qster> any idea why wont let me have more than 2 desktops?
[20:24] <rickest> Qster: mess with kcontrol and ccsm
[20:25] <snizzy1> is it possible to get a picture via kopete?
[20:28] <snizzy1> i dont mean kopete,
[20:28] <francesco_> !it
[20:28] <snizzy1> sry
[20:28] <genii> Qster: Is this on kde4 with compiz on?
[20:28] <snizzy1> i mean is it possible to record my own stream to a hdd
[20:28] <snizzy1> is there a tool
[20:28] <snizzy1> for kubuntu
[20:28] <snizzy1> where i can use my webcam as a videocamera?
[20:28] <genii> snizzy1: zoneminder may work for you
[20:29] <genii> !info zoneminder
[20:29] <snizzy1> how can i use it?
[20:29] <snizzy1> only start?
[20:29] <snizzy1> is it in
[20:29] <snizzy1> is it in usr bin
[20:29] <snizzy1> or sbin
[20:30] <snizzy1> how ok i look at it ;)
[20:30] <snizzy1> thanks for helping genii ;)
[20:30] <snizzy1> thx
[20:31] <genii> snizzy1: You need of course to use a package manager of your choise to install it. Adept (Add/Remove programs)   or by apt-get:      sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install zoneminder   a small tutorial of it is here http://www.howtoforge.com/video_surveillance_zoneminder_ubuntu it is for other type of device but can be applicable
[20:31] <Qster> genii: this is kde4 yes
[20:32] <genii> snizzy1: Most video devices are at /dev/video0 up to /dev/videoXX   where XX is last device minus a digit (since first is labelled zero)
[20:33] <tzd> genii: when trying with -R bcast after i get this: <IP_ADDRESS>: Not enough '\' characters in service followed by the whole list for smbclient syntax
[20:33] <genii> Qster: I found the pager applet neeed to be removed then readded while in compiz to properly show the correct number of desktops. Your mileage may vary however
[20:33] <debian_> Can grub boot a usb stick?
[20:33] <Qster> well i cant even get the correct number of desktops to show in the bottom bar
[20:35] <snizzy2> how does zoneminder work?
[20:35] <genii> tzd: It has been some time since I required to use smbclient and so am referring myself back to it's manpage. I may have syntax incorrect once more.    smbclient //name-or-ip/servicename  -R bcast                      perhaps or even another /after servicename
[20:35] <Qster> hmm im wondering if i should just reinstall all of this with a kubuntu cd
[20:35] <Qster> instead of upgrading to it..
[20:36] <tzd> genii: by servicename you mean one of my shares?
[20:42] <genii> tzd: Yes, servicename is something like   Printers  Homes    or such
[20:42] <genii> gah more nickserv hiccups
[20:47] <tzd> genii: i tried smbclient -L <IP_ADDRESS>/disc0_2 -R bcast and then i got the usual pw request and then it listed my shared resources etc. I've got winbindd running, could that be one of the problems perhaps?
[20:48] <genii> tzd: Use then wins instead of bcast
[20:48] <genii> tzd: Although it seems for you no matter the CLI command, the GUI is inoperative
[20:49] <tzd> genii: yep same thing there... only works in terminal
[20:49] <tzd> genii: i've got win xp on vmware on this machine... perhaps i should try and see if it can connect?
[20:49] <bayko7> how do I switch my package download server to one thats not down??
[20:49] <genii> tzd: Heh, why not
[20:50] <genii> bayko7: You using ca.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[20:50] <bayko7> correct
[20:50] <genii> bayko7: Try instead    debian.yorku.ca
[20:50] <bayko7> how do I swap that/?
[20:51] <genii> bayko7: alt-f2  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list          change all instances of ca.archive.ubuntu.com     to debian.yorku.ca
[20:53] <genii> bayko7: After of course, save. Then to issue:  sudo apt-get update                to renew the list of packages
[20:54] <bayko7> renewing now
[20:55] <shane2peru> anyone know about sync-ing Palm with kontact, getting the kpilot to connect?
[20:56] <bayko7> now it's frozen on 99% updating
[20:56] <genii> bayko7: Likely the swamped security server. There are no mirrors of it
[20:57] <bayko7> o ok, thanks
[21:00] <Qster> should i get the kde4 or kde3 ubuntu?
[21:00] <Odd-rationale> Qster: up to you, i'm staying with kde3 at least intil kde4.1 is stable
[21:00] <shane2peru> kde3 Qster
[21:01] <shane2peru> Qster: kde3 is more stable and usable, kde4 is umm, well lacking some still
[21:01] <Qster> k
[21:01] <genii> Qster: kde3 for everyday use.
[21:02] <lassiethebrave> so, after my latest update/upgrade on my kubuntu 8.04 laptop my touchpad has completely freaked out (when moving it behaves simply crazy doing button 3 clicks everywhere and moving hysterically...) I get The Following to errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/15624/ (the numbers wary but those to appear whenever I move my pointer...)
[21:04] <genii> lassiethebrave: The "lost sync" thing normally happens when it loses the irq for a device. Did you have special kernel options in your grub line before?   like pci=routeirq or so on
[21:04] <lassiethebrave> genii: Nope, nothing special in menu.lst.
[21:05] <genii> lassiethebrave: Had you compiled a driver for it under the previous kernel?
[21:06] <lassiethebrave> genii: No I'm only using kubuntu shipped drivers ...
[21:06] <genii> OK.
[21:08] <lassiethebrave> genii: Would it help to roll back the upgrade, do you think? (if that is possible with kubuntu systems(?))
[21:09] <wraithmagi> need assistance setting my laptop to be bootp server for another laptop with a bad cd/dvd drive so he can install from my cd/dvd
[21:09] <genii> lassiethebrave: Not possible, unfortunately.
[21:09] <lassiethebrave> genii: Dang...
[21:09] <Freddy2> h
[21:09] <Freddy2> hi
[21:11] <wraithmagi> any ideas?  installed the pump package but I'm totally lost on configuration....
[21:12] <tzd> genii: i got it, got some help from the samba channel people and apparently all my file browsers were bad... since i could connect via win xp i got even more assured that they were right. Tried one of the softwares they've listed (smb4k) and it connected very smoothly. Finally it works like it should. Shame my regular filebrowser doesn't work though since it works with everything else. Anyway, i owe you a massive thank you for all your help and effort
[21:12] <tzd> today! Hopefully I'll be able to help you some time but then you better forget something easy otherwise I won't know how to help you ;)
[21:12] <Freddy2> how can be adept_notifier autolaunched at startup? i suppose you can't really access to package config as normal user, isn't it?
[21:12] <genii> lassiethebrave: There seems quite extensive discussion on the error at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:12] <jhoc2x2> !atlantis
[21:12] <genii> tzd: Glad you got it going finally.
[21:13] <jhoc2x2> anyone here know how to install cube atlantis2 on 64bit?
[21:13] <genii> !info cube2
[21:13] <genii> Hmm
[21:14] <jhoc2x2> does not exist.. lol
[21:14] <tzd> genii: yeah, i was planning to stay up all night to get it sorted :) Now i can try to set up a ftp server instead haha... gosh there's always something to do with linux.... I'm suppose to study java for my exam on tuesday but that can wait one more day ;) Thanks once again :)
[21:14] <genii> tzd: Good luck with exams, and you're welcome
[21:14] <tzd> genii: cheers
[21:16] <nado_> anybody got problems with java and firefox 3?
[21:17] <wraithmagi> is there a linux app to "hot-resize" a partition?
[21:17] <nazgjunk> I'm trying to hurt my system into not trying to mount my camera as a camera but as an ordinary usb storage device - annoyingly the udev rules file I'm supposed to be editing doesn't exist. Details follow:
[21:18] <nazgjunk> it's a panasonic FX-12 camera, and the internet tells me I should edit the rules file for libgphoto2 to not include the ID for the thing
[21:18] <nazgjunk> since there is no such file I'm not making a lot of progress
[21:18] <nazgjunk> any suggestions?
[21:18] <nado_> wraithmagi: try gparted
[21:20] <andrew15234> whats the channel for general kubuntu discussion?
[21:20] <lassiethebrave> genii: thx, I'm of to compile the synaptics driver then.
[21:21] <nado_> andrew15234: you're in it :D
[21:21] <andrew15234> ok i thought this was the support channel
[21:26] <Tobby> I'm sure ppl are bored of hearing this but:  I to have changed my main laptop OS to Linux\kubuntu! And I'm very happy:P
[21:26] <andrew15234> it beats xp by a long shot in my opinion
[21:27] <lassiethebrave> Could anybody enlighten me as to how I would make kde not restore my previous session at login?
[21:27] <andrew15234> close everything before shutting down?
[21:27] <Tobby> lassiethebrave, in the systemsetings
[21:27] <Tobby> at advanced there is the option to change that..
[21:28] <Tobby> at least I read it somewhere there when I installed Kubuntu earliyer today
[21:28] <lassiethebrave> Tobby: Oh it's tabbed... thanks.
[21:30] <Tobby> anyone know the imwheel lines that is needed to use extra mouse button to go backwards in dolphin?
[21:31] <Vermux> how do I change the fstab file so I wont have to type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows every time Im restarting?
[21:32] <Vermux> shane2peru:
[21:32] <shane2peru> Vermux: I'm here
[21:33] <Vermux> shane2peru: how do I change the fstab file so I wont have to type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows every time Im restarting?
[21:33] <shane2peru> Vermux: right, did you want that on the desktop?  For easier access
[21:33] <Vermux> shane2peru: good idea
[21:34] <shane2peru> Vermux: we are going to want to mount it in a different place than we did earlier
[21:34] <nicola_> hi all...please...can you tell me how i can enter another channel?
[21:35] <tzd> nicola_: type this; /j channelname
[21:35] <nicola_> thx so much!
[21:35] <tzd> np :)
[21:36] <Vermux> shane2peru: ok
[21:36] <shane2peru> Vermux: one second
[21:42] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, ready
[21:42] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, first this:  sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[21:43] <shane2peru> Vermux: this will backup your fstab incase for whatever reason we mess it up. :)
[21:44] <shane2peru> Vermux: next we are going to type:  gksu kate /etc/fstab
[21:44] <andrew15234> how di set up the compiz cube to rotate when i press super and move the mouse?
[21:45] <Vermux> shane2peru: it says that the program gksu is not installed, should I install it?
[21:45] <shane2peru> Vermux: paste this line in the very bottom of your fstab:  /dev/sda1    /media/windows    ntfs      ro,user,auto,noexec,umask= 0 0 0
[21:45] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, try: sudo kate /etc/fstab
[21:46] <shane2peru> Vermux: then paste that line above ^^^^
[21:46] <Vermux> shane2peru: can I use Vim to paste it?
[21:46] <shane2peru> Vermux: if you are vim fellow have at it. :)
[21:46] <shane2peru> Vermux: I don't  vin
[21:46] <shane2peru> Vermux: I don't  vim
[21:47] <shane2peru> Vermux: did you get it?
[21:48] <Vermux> yes, I did
[21:48] <Vermux> shane2peru: how do I check that it works?
[21:48] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, now run this:  sudo umount /mnt/windows
[21:48] <lassiethebrave> Thank you #kubuntu I have no *all* functionality of my laptop running kubuntu(!) this distro does rock!
[21:49] <lassiethebrave> *I have now *all**
[21:49] <Vermux> shane2peru: done
[21:49] <shane2peru> Vermux: and now: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[21:49] <shane2peru> Vermux: now run sudo mount -a
[21:49] <shane2peru> Vermux: you should be able to see a disk on your desktop that now says windows
[21:49] <Vermux> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[21:49] <shane2peru> Vermux: run:   mount
[21:50] <shane2peru> Vermux: does it show that that windows is mounted?  sda1?
[21:50] <Vermux> shane2peru: I had the mount open
[21:50] <Vermux> now I closed it
[21:51] <Vermux> shane2peru: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[21:51] <shane2peru> Vermux:  now you need to run again, sudo umount /mnt/windows
[21:51] <Vermux> it is not mounted
[21:52] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok now run:  sudo mount -a
[21:52] <shane2peru> Vermux: that should mount anything and everything in fstab
[21:52] <Vermux> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[21:52] <Vermux> shane2peru: I dont know why it says it is busy
[21:53] <shane2peru> Vermux: try this:  sudo lsof /dev/sda1
[21:53] <Vermux> maybe if I restart?
[21:53] <Vermux> ok
[21:54] <Vermux> and then, mount -a?
[21:54] <shane2peru> Vermux: that command wasn' t right, I forget that command
[21:54] <Vermux> I did sudo lsof /dev/sda1
[21:54] <shane2peru> Vermux: you can try a reboot, that would certainly tell us if it works
[21:54] <shane2peru> Vermux: did it show anything?
[21:55] <shane2peru> Vermux: oooh, that was the right command. lol
[21:55] <Vermux> shane2peru: no, it gave nothing in output
[21:55] <Vermux> which command, mount -a?
[21:55] <Vermux> or the last one?
[21:55] <shane2peru> ok, that should mean that it isn't mounted
[21:55] <shane2peru> no the lsof
[21:56] <Vermux> ok, so what is wrong here?
[21:56] <shane2peru> Vermux: it is probably a setting in the fstab, I'm looking for it now, one second
[21:56] <shane2peru> Vermux: it has been years since I worked with ntfs. :)
[21:56] <Vermux> ok, by the way:/media is the desktop folder?
[21:57] <Vermux> shane2peru: how come?
[21:57] <shane2peru> Vermux: no, anything mounted in media gets shown on the desktop, all the usb stuff mounts in media
[21:57] <shane2peru> I had you mount it under mnt before, that is my pref, it doesn' t show on desktop. :)
[21:58] <Vermux> shane2peru: why it shows in the desktop then?
[21:58] <tsb> Is user-switching in kubuntu 3.5.9 broken or is it just om my computer? After 1-3 minutes after loggign in to a new account, the old one will crash
[21:58] <Vermux> shane2peru: there is no way to create shortcut to the mount point /mnt?
[21:59] <tsb> er, kubuntu 8.04 sorry.
[21:59] <shane2peru> because it was mounted on media. :)
[21:59] <Vermux> Ic
[21:59] <Vermux> shane2peru: so let me know if there is a solution or I need to restart
[22:00] <Vermux> shane2peru: thanks for all the help
[22:00] <shane2peru> Vermux: no problem, I'm sure the settings in the fstab are incorrect, I'm looking for the right settings for Ubuntu
[22:01] <Freddy2> shane2peru: what filesystem type you need to mount?
[22:02] <shane2peru> Freddy2: ntfs
[22:02] <Vermux> shane2peru: I still c the folder Windows under mnt
[22:02] <Vermux> shane2peru: maybe this is the reason
[22:02] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, I think this should be better
[22:02] <Freddy2> /dev/whatever /destination ntfs uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,user,umask=000 0 0
[22:02] <shane2peru> Vermux: that should just be a folder, with nothing in it.:)
[22:02] <Vermux> shane2peru: but windows content are displayed under the /media folder
[22:02] <Freddy2> this one is working fine for me
[22:02] <Vermux> shane2peru: right
[22:03] <shane2peru> Freddy2: ahh, ok, thanks!
[22:03] <shane2peru> Freddy2: I don' t use ntfs. :)
[22:03] <Freddy2> my windows installation does..
[22:03] <Vermux> shane2peru: right, both folders are empty
[22:04] <Freddy2> you can set "ro" instead "rw" if you want read only access
[22:04] <shane2peru> Vermux: we need to re-edit your fstab and erase what we put before, change it to this:  /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs uid=0,gid=0,auto,rw,user,umask=000 0 0
[22:04] <Freddy2> *instead of
[22:04] <shane2peru> Freddy2: is ntfs stable with writing now?
[22:04] <Freddy2> it seems so
[22:04] <shane2peru> Freddy2: I haven't used ntfs in about 2 years
[22:05] <Freddy2> if you use a fat32 shared partition between win and linux you can keep your ntfs partition in read-only mode
[22:05] <shane2peru> Vermux: then run this:  mount     .... see if windows is mounted anywhere in there, or ntfs.
[22:05] <Freddy2> you choose
[22:06] <shane2peru> Freddy2: I'm 100% linux. :)  I did set that up when I dual booted though, ntfs was unstable then
[22:06] <shane2peru> Freddy2: or ntfs support with linux that is.
[22:06] <Vermux> shane2peru: yes, on /media/sd1
[22:06] <Vermux> sda1
[22:06] <Freddy2> the problem was ntfs support on linux, for sure
[22:06] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok run:  sudo umount /media/sda1
[22:07] <shane2peru> Vermux: then run:  sudo mount -a
[22:07] <Vermux> ok
[22:07] <Vermux> done
[22:07] <shane2peru> Vermux: was there any other sda1 entries in your fstab?
[22:07] <shane2peru> Vermux: you should see a drive on your desktop now called windows
[22:08] <Vermux> shane2peru: no. I dont c it
[22:08] <shane2peru> Vermux: when you ran sudo mount -a no errors?
[22:08] <Vermux> no, nothing
[22:08] <shane2peru> Vermux: run:  mount       and check for where ntfs is mounted
[22:09] <shane2peru> Freddy2: thanks for the ntfs fstab settings. :)
[22:09] <Freddy2> you're welcome
[22:09] <Vermux> yes, it is mounted on /media /windows
[22:09] <Freddy2> Vermux: if your fstab is fine simply reboot
[22:09] <Vermux> and on /media/sda1
[22:09] <Vermux> I c 2 entries
[22:09] <shane2peru> Vermux: well, that is odd that it doesn't  show up on desktop
[22:10] <shane2peru> Vermux: ahh, ok, I think it was already in your fstab
[22:10] <Freddy2> check that you have only 1 entry for this partition, leave the right one, save and reboot
[22:10] <Vermux> ?
[22:10] <Freddy2> this should work
[22:10] <shane2peru> Vermux: paste the output for this:  cat /etc/fstab   and paste it in:  www.pastebin.com
[22:11] <shane2peru> Freddy2: I think it is in the fstab twice, I think it was in there before, and we (I) didn't know it.
[22:11] <Freddy2> shane2peru: sure
[22:11] <shane2peru> Vermux: then paste the link here so I can see it.
[22:11] <Vermux> http://pastebin.com/md58853c
[22:12] <Freddy2> fucking pastebin.. i hate this web XD
[22:12] <Vermux> ?
[22:12] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, edit your fstab again, and put a # before the line:  UUID=96A49B5BA49B3CA5 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[22:12] <Vermux> what is xd?
[22:12] <shane2peru> Freddy2: please keep the room family friendly
[22:13] <shane2peru> Vermux: after you do that you should be able to reboot, and have it show up on the desktop without a problem
[22:13] <Freddy2> np
[22:13] <Vermux> done
[22:14] <Vermux> shane2peru: ok, will be back shortly
[22:14] <shane2peru> Vermux: it was already in the fstab and we didn't realize that!  It was already mounted lol, anyway, this should give you write permissions
[22:14] <Vermux> shane2peru: but u said it is not safe to write?
[22:14] <Vermux> is it ok to change documents in the windows partition?
[22:14] <Freddy2> Vermux: what kubuntu version are you using?
[22:15] <shane2peru> Vermux: I also said I haven't used ntfs in 2 years. :)
[22:15] <Vermux> like .txt or doc?
[22:15] <Vermux> the last one, I upgraded today
[22:15] <Vermux> 8.04
[22:15] <shane2peru> Vermux: hmm, that would be a question for Freddy2, he is using ntfs
[22:15] <tozankyaku> Hi
[22:15] <Vermux> what's the comand to check the version?
[22:16] <Freddy2> it should work fine with ntfs, but you may use a shared fat32 (for example) partition
[22:16] <Freddy2> that depends on how much you believe in ntfs driver XD
[22:16] <Vermux> waht is XD?
[22:16] <shane2peru> Vermux: if you don' t want to write, you can change the fstab find the option rw in the line we put in there and change it to ro
[22:16] <Freddy2> i have write support enabled, but certainly i don't use to modify many windows files..
[22:17] <shane2peru> Vermux: if you aren' t sure, that may be the safest way to go, because as I said, I don't even have an ntfs partition
[22:18] <shane2peru> Vermux: then you can reboot, and all should be fine
[22:19] <Vermux> k, wait here
[22:20] <shane2peru> Vermux: I'll be here
[22:20] <Freddy2> xD
[22:20] <shane2peru> Freddy2: what is xd?
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> shane2peru: it's a smiley/emoticon
[22:20] <Vermux> wait with the answer till Im back plz
[22:21] <gentleman> who is there?
[22:21] <shane2peru> Freddy2: lol, doesn't show in konversation
[22:21] <Daisuke_Ido> shane2peru: it's text, it shows up as text, just like :) and :D and :( and...  the list goes on and on
[22:21] <Freddy2> http://www.bakarchivio.org/XD.png
[22:21] <mrksbrd> genii or NOS u here???
[22:21] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're seeing xD, it's showing up properly.
[22:22] <Freddy2> shane2peru: that's it
[22:22] <shane2peru> Daisuke_Ido: all I see is xD   lol, course there is no real way to tell what you are seeing, or what I'm seeing.
[22:22] <shane2peru> Daisuke_Ido: I see text. :)
[22:23] <mrksbrd> don't execute me for asking......but has anyone ever attempted to dual boot visa and kubuntu?????
[22:23] <Daisuke_Ido> then you're seeing it right
[22:24] <Vermux> shane2peru: I dont c it on the desktop
[22:25] <shane2peru> Vermux: hmm, that is odd, I wonder why usb stuff shows up, but not that?
[22:25] <Daisuke_Ido> mrksbrd: one question mark will suffice, this isn't aol
[22:25] <locco> hy
[22:25] <Freddy2> Vermux: paste your fstab file here http://phpfi.com//
[22:25] <Gat0rvean> how would I add a kernel parameter when booting from a live CD? (or can I?)
[22:25] <mrksbrd> sorry habit
[22:26] <shane2peru> Vermux: well, at least you can navigate to it via Dolphin, I'm not as familiar with KDE, I'm  an xGnomer :)
[22:27] <mrksbrd> genii u here?
[22:27] <locco> holaaaaaaaaa
[22:27] <Vermux> Freddy2: http://phpfi.com/320616
[22:27] <Vermux> ok
[22:28] <shane2peru> !es | locco
[22:28] <locco> ok
[22:28] <Freddy2> locco: ya lo sabes XD
[22:28] <Vermux> shane2peru: maybe u can help with this: when Im booting the laptop, I have like 8 options to choose from - all of the are almost identical (ubuntu.... 8.04), safe mode
[22:29] <shane2peru> Vermux: ha ha, how did you end up with 8 of them!  lol, that is easy to fix
[22:29] <Freddy2> Vermux: what about "mount" output? what and where is mounted?
[22:29] <navetz> can someone tell me how to restart my keyboard
[22:29] <Vermux> shane2peru: I think I suppose to have 3 or 4 options, regular mode, safe mode, windows...
[22:29] <mrksbrd> !dualboot
[22:29] <shane2peru> Vermux: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Vermux: kernel updates add grub lines
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Vermux: uninstall older kernels through adept or synaptic
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> keep one or two releases back in case something doesn't work properly
[22:30] <Vermux> Freddy2: http://phpfi.com/320617
[22:30] <shane2peru> Daisuke_Ido: ahh, right, I forget about that, I always edit my menu.lst :)  lol, but I usually am dual booting with Linux/Linux
[22:30] <Freddy2> so windows is mounted at /media/windows
[22:30] <Freddy2> go there and check it
[22:32] <Vermux> Freddy2: I checked it already, I can access it
[22:33] <Freddy2> probably you can enable drives view at desktop, but i don't know how.. i have a "place" at my file manager, and it's fine for me
[22:33] <Vermux> shane2peru: how do I search for old kernels?
[22:33] <Vermux> shane2peru: what's their names?
[22:34] <ubuntu__> there's something wrong with the calculator in kubuntu
[22:34] <shane2peru> Vermux: you can just search for kernel
[22:34] <shane2peru> Vermux: make sure you leave the most recent, and one old one too
[22:35] <ubuntu__> i multiplied 700000 with 5.80 and i got some 4.06e6 gibberish
[22:35] <poseidon> ubuntu__, Do you have it set to scientific mode?
[22:36] <ubuntu__> poseidon: i might
[22:36] <Vermux> shane2peru: linux kernel headers?
[22:36] <shane2peru> Vermux: I believe so, let me double check
[22:36] <Vermux> Freddy2: didnt find that option. I think Im fine like that
[22:36] <ubuntu__> poseidon: no, its in general mode
[22:36] <Freddy2> ok, me 2
[22:37] <Vermux> Freddy2: actually, how do I create a shortcut?
[22:37] <poseidon> ubuntu__, It's probably to many digits.  It probably has a feature to turn it into scientific mode once the number is x amount of digits long.
[22:37] <Freddy2> cd ~/Desktop (or whatever name it has) and ln -s /media/windows windows
[22:38] <Freddy2> i think this should work.. try it
[22:38] <shane2peru> Vermux: I think Linux-image is what you want to remove
[22:38] <Vermux> Freddy2: yay!!
[22:38] <poseidon> ubuntu__, I'm sure you can convert it to a regular number from scientific :)
[22:38] <ubuntu__> hmm, i think it's a bad idea having such a mode turned on by default
[22:38] <Vermux> Freddy2:
[22:38] <Vermux> I created a link to a hard drive device
[22:39] <Freddy2> well, you may call it this way, yes
[22:39] <mrksbrd> !geforce
[22:39] <ubuntu__> i hope i can install the gnome calculator in kde
[22:39] <poseidon> ubuntu__, It's really so that you don't give an overflow.  It's hard to handle very large numbers.  It's much simpler to do a conversion to scientific rather than to depend on long multiplication.
[22:40] <shane2peru> ubuntu__: you can
[22:40] <Freddy2> i get 4060000
[22:40] <navetz> can someone please tell me how to restart my keyboard, my control and shift keys stoped working
[22:40] <mrksbrd> !nvidea
[22:41] <mrksbrd> !broadcom
[22:41] <FSHero> Hi all; is it true that KDE4 in Hardy is not under LTS? If so... can I install KDE3 from Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 (and vice versa: KDE4 from Kubuntu 8.04 LTS)?
[22:42] <Vermux> shane2peru: ok, I removed 2.6.20 and 2.6.22
[22:42] <adz21c> FSHero: yes
[22:42] <Vermux> I'll reboot again to c the change
[22:42] <Vermux> shane2peru: ^
[22:42] <shane2peru> Vermux: you did leave the newest ones right?  :)  that should fix it so you don' t have so many choices.
[22:43] <adz21c> FSHero: u can install kubuntu-kde4-desktop and kubuntu-desktop (kde3)
[22:43] <Freddy2> adz21c: no conflict between same-name apps like kmail? is kde4 creating a ~/.kde4 folder instead?
[22:43] <Vermux> shane2peru: yes, .24 I left
[22:44] <FSHero> adz21c: Thanks. I think I shall install the kde3 version, then add kde4.
[22:44] <poseidon> ubuntu__, go to view->fixed decimal.  That should fix it.
[22:44] <Vermux> shane2peru: I also left .22 one
[22:44] <shane2peru> Vermux: ok, you should be good to go
[22:44] <adz21c> Freddy2: correct, kde4 stores config in .kde4 and the apps are installed into usr/lib/kde4
[22:44] <Vermux> k, rebooting
[22:45] <Qster> how do i get more than 2 desktops? when i increase the amount to 4 it justs gives two
[22:45] <Freddy2> ok, maybe i give it a try in the future, but not know
[22:45] <adz21c> :)
[22:45] <Freddy2> i've read someplace that plasma is being completely rewriten
[22:45] <Freddy2> new api, new bugs, new test time xD
[22:45] <adz21c> Freddy2: had a big shake down for 4.1
[22:46] <Freddy2> adz21c: so is it true? new api for plasma? why?
[22:46] <adz21c> Freddy2: qt 4.4 brought some new stuff they been waiting for
[22:47] <Freddy2> interesting.. what about v4.1 release date?
[22:47] <adz21c> Freddy2: i am using a trunk build now and they cleaned up the bugs they were having quite quickly, its pretty stable now
[22:47] <Freddy2> (expected release date)
[22:47] <adz21c> Freddy2: you mean the none beta release?
[22:47] <Freddy2> i mean 4.1 final release
[22:48] <adz21c> Freddy2: late July, 28th or something like that
[22:48] <Freddy2> looks very close.. i was expecting it close to october.. we'll see how it works
[22:48] <Vermux> shane2peru: ok, now I have two .22 and two .24, memtest... others, and windows
[22:49] <shane2peru> Vermux: great!
[22:49] <Freddy2> i want kde-pim working, as soon as amarok2
[22:49] <Daisuke_Ido> Vermux: what's the 24?  -16 or -17?
[22:49] <adz21c> Freddy2: indeed ... although i have to say i don't have many stability problems so far (although i am not using many of the apps, too lazy to compile it all)
[22:50] <Vermux> Daisuke_Ido: -17
[22:50] <Freddy2> adz21c: i've seen many lightweight plasmoids for rss feeding, but.. is akregator still alive? i can't live without it :)
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Vermux: k - i would have kept -16 and -17, since .22 is gutsy's kernel
[22:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Freddy2: of course it's still alive
[22:51] <adz21c> Freddy2: its in there although i not done a kdepim compile since i left gutsy
[22:51] <Vermux> I didnt have 16
[22:51] <Freddy2> nice
[22:51] <Vermux> Daisuke_Ido: I have 17 0nly
[22:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Vermux: shouldn't be an issue
[22:52] <Vermux> Daisuke_Ido: ok, thanks
[22:52] <Freddy2> i've been finally able to get one of my ideas introduced http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122179
[22:52] <Freddy2> :D
[22:52] <venik> lsusb does not work on my 8.04 all of a sudden.  Why is that?
[22:52] <venik> When I type it into the Konsole, it just sits there-- no output
[22:54] <scott__> ive switched to kde but when i enable compiz it only lets me have 2 desktops anyone experience this?
[22:56] <khaije1> !compiz
[22:59] <jill> hi people
[22:59] <jill> i need some help
[22:59] <jill> can you?
[23:00] <jill> please, anyone help
[23:01] <alexey> hi
[23:01] <jill> hi
[23:01] <alexey> is there any faq channel)
[23:02] <jill> i dont know, i am firt time here
[23:02] <jill> anybodey help me please with kubuntu 710
[23:02] <alexey> 1q) why i can not to typr my login and pass in console)
[23:02] <alexey> ju 8 04
[23:02] <shane2peru> jill: what is the question
[23:03] <jill> first - i dont know why my konqueror doesnt not works on dailup
[23:03] <shane2peru> alexey: is your keyboard setup correctly?
[23:04] <shane2peru> jill: oooh, not sure on that one, sorry, I just recently came to KDE, I know nothing of konqueror
[23:04] <shane2peru> jill: why don' t you upgrade to 8.04?
[23:04] <jill> the second question
[23:04] <jill> im on dialup i cant do this
[23:04] <shane2peru> jill: ahh, right, understood
[23:05] <jill> or send me your copy in Republic of Kazakhstan))))
[23:05] <shane2peru> jill: lol, I'm in Peru! :)
[23:05] <alexey> i can send you)
[23:05] <jill> i take english on one week because my linux doesnt have localisations)
[23:06] <jill> alexey, yea? cool
[23:06] <alexey> It can be in Almaata in 2 days)
[23:06] <jill> what do you need for that?
[23:06] <jill> oh
[23:06] <jill> no
[23:06] <jill> alex, i leave in east part of KZ
[23:06] <alexey> hm) then i can post it)
[23:07] <jill> okay, what do you need? any postcodes maybe?
[23:07] <alexey> shane) are you still here&
[23:07] <alexey> adress)
[23:07] <alexey> postal code
[23:07] <jill> only adress? realy cool
[23:07] <alexey> and youe name)
[23:07] <jill> but how much money i need for that
[23:07] <jill> ?
[23:08] <shane2peru> alexey: I'm still here, I don' t do PM :)
[23:08] <alexey> )) i dont think it will be a trouble)
[23:08] <alexey> maybe 1us dollar)
[23:08] <alexey> i dont know)
[23:08] <shane2peru> what keyboard are you using?
[23:08] <alexey> Sven slim 303))))
[23:09] <shane2peru> alexey: I'm not really sure, probably when you installed, you needed to make sure the keyboard setting was correct, they give you a little space to type and make sure it workds
[23:09] <jill> shane, look. my firefox works properly but konqueror is not
[23:09] <alexey> it works)
[23:09] <alexey> and it works in console
[23:09] <alexey> but after i type a comman
[23:09] <alexey> d
[23:09] <shane2peru> alexey: console?  like the command line?
[23:10] <jill> alex, why konqueror didnt see dialup connection?
[23:10] <alexey> and it saks me for my pass i cant type it)
[23:10] <alexey> asks)))
[23:10] <shane2peru> alexey: you can type it, it just doesn't show it to you
[23:10] <shane2peru> type it and hit return
[23:10] <alexey> really?
[23:10] <alexey> let me try)
[23:10] <shane2peru> alexey: yes
[23:10] <alexey> and 1more q
[23:10] <shane2peru> jill: I would just use firefox. :)
[23:10] <alexey> how you make you msg red)
[23:11] <shane2peru> alexey: I type the first four letters of your name and hit tab (it completes the name)
[23:11] <alexey> shane2peru: ok)_
[23:11] <alexey> shane2peru: ths a lot
[23:12] <shane2peru> alexey: no prob
[23:12] <jill> shane2peru, but i have to know if i want use any linux system, i hate when any software exists, but not works)
[23:12] <shane2peru> jill: there is NO perfect software :)
[23:12] <jill> yea, but perfect hands are
[23:13] <jill> i have last question, what can i do for playing video in kubuntu?
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> jill: kaffeine
[23:14] <shane2peru> video, what kind of video
[23:14] <jill> kaffeine doesnt works, avi-type
[23:14] <shane2peru> jill: install vlc, that is the greatest player of all, plays everything
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> shane2peru: is there a qt froentend to vlc?
[23:15] <jill> give me a tip how can i install kaffeine avi support
[23:15] <shane2peru> Odd-rationale: hmm, not sure I always used to use Gnome
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> jill: did you try installinf kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> jill: i was able to play avi in kaffeine...
[23:15] <jill> one second i am verifyng
[23:17] <jill> in adept manager i havent it
[23:17] <Odd-rationale> jill: install it: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> jill: WARNING: it will make you computer less free
[23:18] <jill> any terminal command to install it?
[23:18] <jill> how can i do this?
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> Odd-rationale: you have an odd definition of free - i see the restricted extras as the freedom to play whatever i want :)
[23:19] <shane2peru> vlc does work in Kubuntu, I don't know what it is written in, for the record. :)
[23:19] <Daisuke_Ido> rather than the "freedom" to listen to both of my .oggs
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> vlc, at least the one in the repo, is gtk.
[23:19] <jill> it couldnt find package kubuntu-restr...
[23:20] <shane2peru> Odd-rationale: aah, then it is gtk, still greatest player, plays about everything under the sun
[23:20] <jill> guys
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> jill: you may have to check the spelling.
[23:20] <jill> i use clipboard
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> jill: also, tab completion may help: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-re<tab> and see wthat you get...
[23:20] <Qster> i cant seem to get my virtual desktops to go above 2 even after setting to 4 it defaults back to 2 any ideas?
[23:21] <shane2peru> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> shane2peru: phonon will have vlc backends :)
[23:21] <shane2peru> jill: ^^^
[23:21] <jill> no, it doesnt works
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> jill: you may need to do "sudo apt-get update" first...
[23:22] <shane2peru> jill: I did: aptitude search restricted    and it shows you the restricted packages
[23:22] <jill> okay
[23:22] <shane2peru> jill: you will probably need universe and multiverse enabled
[23:22] <shane2peru> Odd-rationale: what is phonon?
[23:23] <jill> it is doing to update
[23:23] <jill> some packs are loading now
[23:24] <jill> the third pack is big.. for dialup connection, dont go away 5 mins))
[23:25] <jill> where are installed packages located?
[23:27] <marcutio> hi
[23:29] <jill> hey guys, what for the dbg files?
[23:29] <jill> debuging where? i dont have any development programs
[23:31] <Kloplop321> I have a quick question, how do I chang it so that the mouse scroller, when presed dowm(acts as a middle button) does not paste?
[23:31] <neofax> Hello everyone!
[23:31] <eljefe> thats a huge feature of linux, why would you??
[23:32] <neofax> I cannot update to kernel 2.6.24-17 as I get an error on postinst.
[23:32] <eljefe> well, i find it very important and cannot live w/o it
[23:32] <jill> firefox is too slow...
[23:32] <Kloplop321> it is annoying, and my scroller is very sositive so it randomly pastes it into the cade I work on when scrolling someitmeo
[23:32] <Kloplop321> sometimes*
[23:33] <neofax> jill: Check out: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/215728
[23:33] <jill> shane2peru, when i done downloading, what next?
[23:34] <Kloplop321> into the code* (I am typnig an a Dvorak keyboard)
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> shane2peru: you haven't heard of phonon?! it is the kde4 multimedia framework
[23:34] <shane2peru> jill: I think you should be all set to go, just reopen Kaffine, and play the file. :)
[23:34] <belzebub> which file holds all the monitor settings? in kde4
[23:34] <shane2peru> Odd-rationale: ohh, I gave KDE4 a go for a bit, still shaky, went back to KDE3. :)
[23:34] <jill> after universe packs it will be fine?
[23:35] <shane2peru> jill: after it is all done installing the kubuntu-restricted-drivers you should be able to play the avi file
[23:36] <jill> shane2peru, thank you very much, realy i have 160Gbytes of video and it very interesting, thanks
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> shane2peru: kubuntu-restricted-drivers?
[23:36] <shane2peru> jill: no prob
[23:37] <shane2peru> Odd-rationale: ohh, extras, it was the idea, not the package
[23:38] <jill> shane2peru, if i have my old kubuntu, i always have to update my systems? if i cant do this, is it very important what release i use?
[23:39] <shane2peru> jill: if you are on dialup, the updates are probably less important, because they are usually security stuff that effect high speed users more than anything
[23:39] <shane2peru> jill: if something doesn't work for you, consider updating it. :)
[23:40] <shane2peru> if it works, just leave it alone, that will save you a lot of downloading on dialup.
[23:41] <jill> shane2peru, okay and last for you - i want to build software on c++, in ASP Linux 12 Carbon (autumn 2007 rpm system) i use KDevelop, in Kubuntu what is it?
[23:41] <Daisuke_Ido> ...kdevelop
[23:42] <jill> in standart package any of this exists?
[23:43] <jill> yeaaaaaaa, it works, kaffein are working stable, thanks to shane2peru
[23:43] <tzd> i can't write to an external usb hdd that's connected to a router. I can see it and browse the drive via samba but not write to it. My guess is that the permissions are wrong but how do i add a user or make it writeable please? It's ext3 format and the cmd "adduser" does not work
[23:44] <jill> i am going to see "American Gungster" today)) ever seen?
[23:44] <belzebub> which file holds all the monitor settings? in kde4
[23:44] <shane2peru> jill: no prob
[23:44] <tzd> jill: yeah, it's a good film ;)
[23:45] <jill> shane2peru, where are those packages i download, i want to save it for reintalled kubuntu and my friends
[23:45] <jill> i want it on cd
[23:45] <jill> where they are located?
[23:45] <shane2peru> jill: ahh, you can save all those, they are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:47] <shane2peru> jill: or something close to that, that is a good idea, especially if you are on dialup, if you have a friend that has highspeed, you can just run aptitude download and download the packages save them in a folder and bring them back to your comptuer
[23:47] <jill> shane2peru, cool. i am going to do this
[23:48] <shane2peru> aptitude download package name    <- this just saves it in the folder that you are in, and it doesn't get all the dependencies
[23:48] <shane2peru> jill: ^^^
[23:49] <jill> shane2peru, /var/cache/apt/archives empty
[23:49] <shane2peru> jill: what?
[23:50] <jill> shane2peru, only pkgcache.bin and other bin-file
[23:50] <shane2peru> jill:  /var/cache/apt/archives   that is where mine are, there should be a bunch of .deb files
[23:51] <jill> i an going to search all *.deb files on my disk
[23:51] <shane2peru> jill: slocate *.deb
[23:52] <jill> ohh, strigi is sucks if honestly
[23:52] <shane2peru> jill: yes, don't use strigi :)
[23:53] <rootsnatch> ya I really don't like strigi, when are they going to make strigi actaully good
[23:53] <jill> shane2peru, can i remove it safely for another programs, can i just delete it in adept?
[23:54] <shane2peru> jill: not sure, it is probably attached to the kubuntu-desktop
[23:54] <shane2peru> jill: you can safely leave it, just run:  slocate *.deb
[23:54] <shane2peru> jill: that will tell you right now where all those packages are
[23:57] <jill> shane2peru, maybe it was *.gpg files download?
[23:58] <shane2peru> jill: no all the packages are going to be .deb files, that is the debian packaging setup
[23:59] <jill> shane2peru, look
[23:59] <jill> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release [65.9kB]
[23:59] <jill> Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages [4065kB]