[16:46] <hkrrsx> esu: I'd prefer not to announce my home address :)
[16:47] <gunnar> could give us your timezone just for kicks :D
[16:47] <hkrrsx> gunnar: Eastern Time
[16:48] <hkrrsx> esu: gunnar: This is a  Ubuntu support channel, let's keep this specifically related to support questions
[16:48] <gunnar> hkrrsx: awesome
[16:48] <hkrrsx> Otherwise, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:48] <gunnar> hkrrsx: A thousand pardons.
[16:49] <hkrrsx> np
[17:05] <Sky_Symbol> hi, how can I switch language in gimp?
[17:05] <hkrrsx> Sky_Symbol: /join #gimp
[17:18] <aladiah> what it is the normal path after Libre Office install to reach Desktop-Integration  sub directory ?=
[17:21] <hkrrsx> aladiah: Please see this URL --  http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-4-0-Unity-Integration-in-Ubuntu-12-04-td4035137.html
[17:22] <hkrrsx> It suggests to un-install your previous/current version of LibreOffice and then re-install via the Ubuntu repository
[17:22] <hkrrsx> i.e. - sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[17:23] <hkrrsx> Gotta go to a family event, bbl
[17:23] <Guest18463> Hello, I use Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I was trying to boot Windows 8.1 in another HDD but failed, I use BOOT REPAIR to make GRUB detect my Windows HDD but could not login, after a few reboots I can no longer boot into Ubuntu either, this is what I got after a BOOT REPAIR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/
[17:23] <Guest18463> Anyone know how to make my ubuntu HDD run again_
[17:24] <aladiah> hkrrsx : please tell me where is it the libre office folder
[17:24] <Pumpkin-_> if I want a static /etc/resolv.conf and don't want resolvconf messing with it at all, what should I do ?. The fact /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink suggets in reality I can just replace that with a file, but is there something better I "should" be doing ?
[17:25] <aladiah> Pumpkin : do you know how to find de libre office folder ?
[17:26] <user_> can someone proofread something for me
[17:26] <daftykins> user_: no, this is ubuntu support - not "do my homework for me" :)
[17:26] <Pumpkin-_> aladiah: sorry, no I don't
[17:28] <k1l> user_: #ubuntu-offtopic is the chitchat channel. you can ask there for non ubuntu support help
[17:28] <aladiah> Pumpkin :  CD /usr/share/libreoffice
[17:28] <Pumpkin-_> well, if you know the answer, why are you asking me ?
[17:29] <aladiah> Pumpkin : someone told me in lubuntu channel. thanks anyhway
[17:29] <aladiah> was just to let you know too
[17:29] <aladiah> maybe you can help someone in future
[17:35] <Guest18463> Hello, I use Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I was trying to boot Windows 8.1 in another HDD but failed, I use BOOT REPAIR to make GRUB detect my Windows HDD but could not login, after a few reboots I can no longer boot into Ubuntu either, this is what I got after a BOOT REPAIR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/
[17:35] <Guest18463> Anyone know how to make my ubuntu HDD run again_
[17:35] <Ziber> So, I'm at a grub prompt of my server, and it's saying "error: can't find command `kernel'."
[17:37] <daftykins> Ziber: what did you change last?
[17:38] <ioria> Guest18463, well, in theory, grub should be installed on the MBR of the master hhd...
[17:39] <Guest18463> ioria: It just does not login, it stays stuck in a blank screen
[17:39] <bangle> hey all i have a problem. a couple days ago i ago i deleted a version of python from my system and a bunch of other programs were deleted with it. everything seemed to be fine, until a recent update to ubuntu and restart. now i don't see file menus, can't use ctrl-T. its as if the windowing system of ubuntu is gone
[17:39] <Guest18463> ioria: Not even after removing the Windows HDD will it login
[17:40] <Guest18463> ioria: The master HDD is Ubuntu, the slave is Windows
[17:40] <Ziber> I upgrade to 13.10 and then rebooted
[17:40] <Ziber> So, libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:41] <daftykins> Ziber: do you have a RAID disk setup for where the OS is installed?
[17:41] <Ziber> from my grub output.
[17:41] <Ziber> nah
[17:41] <daftykins> Ziber: ok is there much on this machine that a clean install would be a serious undertaking?
[17:41] <Ziber> kinda
[17:42] <Guest18463> I cant do a clean install either, I have important files there, and my HDD is encrypted, so I cant access from this liveCD
[17:42] <bangle> is there a workaround to access the terminal? ctrl-T isn't working for me
[17:42] <ioria> Guest18463, the slave disk with windows doesn't work alone, i suppose
[17:42] <daftykins> Ziber: because right now, even if you fixed a 13.10 install - you've still got to upgrade to 14.04 to be running a supported release. so i'd just clean install if i were you
[17:42] <Guest18463> ioria: Nope, not work at all
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> bangle  ctrl-alt F1
[17:43] <ioria> Guest18463, neither set as master ?
[17:43] <Ziber> Gotta find a USB then.. :(
[17:44] <Guest18463> ioria: No, must be the new UEFI thing or secure boot on Windows, my BIOS does not have those options
[17:44] <ioria> Guest18463, secure boot can be disabled ...
[17:45] <ioria> Guest18463, that's the first installation ? it never works before ?
[17:46] <victor__> hello! Is anybody using Kubuntu 15.04? It's just to confirm an issue i'm having, each time i launch an app with sudo, plasma crashes and it never works again
[17:46] <Guest18463> ioria: My ASUS P5Q Pro motherboard does not have those options, unless it is hidden
[17:47] <bangle> monkeydust: thank you
[17:48] <Guest18463> ioria: I have been using Ubuntu 14.04 for a while, it was working fine until the @Boot repair@ thing, my guess it was that thing broke everything
[17:48] <esu> help
[17:48] <esu> no bot here?
[17:48] <ioria> Guest18463, why did you use it ? i don't remember
[17:48] <zerowaitstate> !ubottu
[17:49] <tzanolo> hello, good afternoon. Im with a trouble: all my control panel itens disapeared. I cannot change mouse, screen, monitor, keyboard anymore.
[17:49] <tzanolo> I have 3 users and root enabled, no of the users appears any pannel.
[17:51] <Ziber> So, I've got a USB. What do I need to do to make it bootable, from a mac?
[17:52] <TheNumb> Ziber: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[17:52] <daftykins> Ziber: erk, mac - i don't know how device naming works for them, lets see - do you have a 14.04 server 64-bit ISO downloaded already?
[17:52] <daftykins> TheNumb has given you a helpful link ^_^
[17:52] <Ziber> I'm just downloading a 14.10 server 64bit iso
[17:53] <Ziber> yeah, thanks
[17:53] <daftykins> Ziber: i do not recommend using non-Long Term Support editions for server, stick to 14.04
[17:53] <TheNumb> ^
[17:53] <TheNumb> daftykins++
[17:53] <Ziber> oh, right, duh
[17:53] <Ziber> lol
[17:56] <aladiah> how to creat menu short cut to Libre office
[17:57] <Vyom> hi peole.. I think I am in some serious shit.. I booted with a Ubuntu 14.04 usb stick, and choose to install it overwriting old Ubuntu.. but I think it overwrote my entire 1 Tb hdd
[17:57] <Vyom> PLEASE HELP! :|
[17:57] <daftykins> Vyom: ok well at the very least please be polite whilst in here
[17:57] <delinquentme> Vyom are you currently allowing the install screen to keep running?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Vyom  avoid profane words and caps
[17:58] <Vyom> delinquentme: Its all done now.. I have a fresh Ubuntu, with XChat running
[17:58] <k1l> Vyom: what was on the disk before?
[17:58] <delinquentme> Vyom daftykins knows that hes doing -- hes quite helpful
[17:58] <Vyom> Windows ... documetns, images .. all my life :|
[17:58] <k1l> Vyom: are you booted into the ubuntu right now? or on the live usb?
[17:58] <Vyom> k1l: yes
[17:58] <daftykins> Vyom: can you boot back into the live USB session and come back on here?
[17:58] <daftykins> install or live session?
[17:58] <delinquentme> "yes"
[17:58] <Vyom> Installed session
[17:58] <delinquentme> kek
[17:59] <k1l> Vyom: can you pastebin a "suod fdisk -l" (small L at the end) into a pastebin?
[17:59] <k1l> !paste | Vyom
[17:59] <k1l> Vyom: "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:59] <k1l> (sorry had a typo)
[17:59] <ioria> Vyom, you have surely partitioned such a drive
[18:00] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810051/
[18:00] <Guest18463> ioria: I was trying to dual boot Windows 8.1
[18:00] <Guest18463> Is there a way to fix this_
[18:00] <k1l> Vyom: "sudo gdisk -l" please, since its a gpt partition sheme"
[18:00] <ioria> Vyom, no you haven't
[18:01] <Vyom> Problem opening -l for reading! Error is 2.
[18:01] <Vyom> The specified file does not exist!
[18:01] <k1l> i hate gpt, whats the commands for that again?
[18:02] <k1l> sudo gdisk -L should do
[18:02] <daftykins> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[18:03] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810084/ Please help :(
[18:03] <Thenewone> Hi GUYS
[18:03] <Thenewone> Higuys *
[18:03] <Ziber> Okay, so I've got the iso I need. I can just use dd to put it on the usb, right?
[18:04] <daftykins> Vyom: can you "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[18:04] <daftykins> Ziber: use the link earlier, it shows how to do it with macs
[18:04] <Thenewone> i have ubuntu server on vbox how can  connect to it out when i'm in work ?
[18:04] <Vyom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810096/
[18:05] <daftykins> Vyom: yes you've wiped the lot
[18:05] <k1l> Vyom: seems like you formated the whole drive
[18:05] <Vyom> wth man ... :( I just told ubuntu to overwrite "old ubuntu" how can it format whole drive
[18:06] <Guest18463> I am starting to doubt Linux's stability...
[18:06] <Vyom> did it just cleaned the index, all formatted the sectors as well..
[18:06] <Vyom> can I recover?
[18:06] <ioria> Guest18463, you installed windows after ubuntu ?
[18:06] <daftykins> Vyom: if your data was after the ubuntu install it might be possible to recover yeah, with something like 'testdisk'
[18:06] <k1l> !testdisk | Vyom
[18:06] <Vyom> I have used testdisk before to recover lost android data..
[18:07] <daftykins> i have no experience with testdisk to know if it recovers data in-place or whether you need another drive to restore it to, though
[18:07] <Guest18463> ioria: Yes, it is in another HDD http://paste.ubuntu.com/10796502/
[18:07] <Vyom> I have another drive 2 TB external hdd, if I need to recover
[18:07] <daftykins> ah ok
[18:07] <daftykins> well, 'sudo apt-get install testdisk' and give it a go i guess
[18:07] <Vyom> question is, can it recover.. and is there some GOOD recovery program for Ubuntu
[18:08] <ioria> Guest18463, you should have installed ubuntu after windows
[18:08] <Guest18463> I am going to use BOOT REPAIR again and see what happens
[18:08] <erwyn> Hello guys
[18:08] <daftykins> hi
[18:08] <Kaby> anyone knows show to hide ip on ubuntu 14.10 with tor browser please , mark my name if you want to answer me to notice please
[18:08] <erwyn> I have a problem with nvidia prime
[18:08] <Kaby> how to show*
[18:08] <erwyn> I enabled it and now my session won't start
[18:08] <k1l> Vyom: in general: formating is not overwriting but just forgetting where it was stored until the exact space on the hdd is overwritten with other data. so maybe there is some hope to get some data back.
[18:09] <Bashing-om> Vyom: Perhaps a victim of this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 .
[18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: via 'additional drivers' ?
[18:09] <Guest18463> ioria: Ok, if that makes Linux happy I will install Windows first, well, it is already installed...
[18:09] <erwyn> daftykins: no command line
[18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: apt-get install nvidia-prime ?
[18:09] <erwyn> daftykins: ja
[18:09] <daftykins> yeah that's wrong.
[18:09] <erwyn> :(
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest18463  windows ruins grub, that's why you should windows first, then linux
[18:09] <k1l> Vyom: so in general i would say: use dd_rescue to make a 1to1 backup and then try to recover the data from that.
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> should install*
[18:09] <daftykins> erwyn: so what do you want to do first, recover the desktop? can you get to a shell?
[18:10] <erwyn> daftykins: yes i have a shell
[18:10] <daftykins> erwyn: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[18:10] <daftykins> then reboot.
[18:10] <erwyn> okay
[18:11] <Guest18463> MonkeyDust: even if its in another HDD_
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Guest18463  you see what happened
[18:11] <erwyn> daftykins: okay done
[18:11] <Ziber> I'm having trouble using diskutil and dd to put an iso on a usb on mac osx. Keeps saying the device is busy
[18:11] <ioria> Guest18463, does no  matter...
[18:12] <daftykins> Ziber: it's probably mounted in the finder, unmount it
[18:12] <Ziber> I did.
[18:12] <Vyom> daftykins: I am trying to use testdisk, it's beyond my level of knowledge about disk structure etc.. is thre some gui based recovery tool for ubuntu?
[18:12] <erwyn> daftykins: but I don't have my desktop back :(
[18:12] <daftykins> Ziber: i don't know how device management with macs works well enough to advise you sadly. which command is failing exactly?
[18:12] <daftykins> erwyn: after a full reboot?
[18:13] <Guest18463> Ill reboot and see what happens...
[18:13] <Ziber> http://pastebin.com/4MgmF8uB
[18:13] <Vyom> I spend my last month writing about Ubuntu and how to do stuff on it (for newbies coming from Windows) but I did that all on virtual ubuntu, and now this eff up happened! :'(
[18:13] <erwyn> daftykins: I'm rebooting again just to be sure
[18:13] <Guest18463> wish me luck :)
[18:13] <ioria> Guest18463, install w8    mbr not gpt
[18:14] <Ziber> daftykins: See my paste? http://pastebin.com/4MgmF8uB
[18:14] <Vyom> Someone PLEASE help me.. I just lost my "life" while migrating to Ubuntu.. and if I can't recover data .. I am afriad that would leave very bad impression of Ubuntu
[18:14] <daftykins> Ziber: yeah, can you share "diskutil list" too?
[18:14] <ioria> Guest18463, on your pc you should't have uefi so... it's good ... but check for secure boot option in bios
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Vyom  you should have made backups
[18:14] <daftykins> Ziber: is maybe the GUI Disk Utility still open locking it?
[18:14] <erwyn> daftykins: ah, I can still purge, relauching it
[18:15] <Vyom> MonkeyDust: I have backup, but not for last few months
[18:15] <Ziber> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/6M5KZHFU
[18:15] <daftykins> Vyom: no idea of GUI data recovery, sorry.
[18:16] <Guest18463> REBOOTING
[18:16] <ioria> Vyom maybe you need 'phisical' assistance ... i mean a shop
[18:16] <daftykins> Ziber: ah it's one of those U3 partition flash drives, i wonder if it's unhappy about that. i really don't have enough experience with OS X to advise i'm afraid... try unplugging, booting fresh, then trying again
[18:17] <daftykins> Ziber: i suspect it's mounted or in use somewhere
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> Vyom  or paid professional assistance
[18:17] <banshee> which package is responsible for the bar on the upper part of the screen?
[18:17] <Vyom> ioria: thanks man.. looks like I messed up. No one can really help me. I would have to help myself. I would read a guide on internet about testdisk and will reover my data.
[18:17] <Ziber> daftykins: hmmm
[18:17] <banshee> that holds the shutdown icon, networking, etc
[18:17] <ioria> Vyom best wishes and despair
[18:17] <ioria> not despair
[18:19] <erwyn> daftykins: Yeah I confirm that I still don't have anything but notifications and background. I can right click and so on. but I don't have title bar or side bar
[18:20] <daftykins> erwyn: oh ok so it is there, just not a full GUI. can you switch to TTY1 and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "lspci | pastebinit" - share the link here - and also for "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[18:21] <erwyn> daftykins: doing it right now
[18:21] <Ziber> Oh, I figured it out.
[18:21] <Ziber> Burning now :)
[18:21] <Ziber> extremely slowlyt ho
[18:21] <Ziber> *tho
[18:22] <daftykins> well, copying - i sure hope a flash drive isn't using a laser to etch holes in a plastic disc
[18:22] <ciju> Hi guys.How can I see whether I have installed cigc++-2.0 package on my system?
[18:22] <daftykins> ;)
[18:22] <daftykins> ciju: "dpkg -l | grep cigc"
[18:22] <Ziber> yeah, sorry
[18:22] <erwyn> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810223/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810229/
[18:22] <daftykins> if you're sure on that package name
[18:22] <ikonia> ciju: just look in the package manager
[18:22] <Ziber> is a 1m block size critical?
[18:22] <ciju> daftykins: thanks
[18:23] <ikonia> you'll see it either marked as installed or available for install, that will tell you
[18:23] <daftykins> erwyn: is this a laptop?
[18:23] <Thenewone> so this is very bad way to use ssh
[18:23] <Thenewone> what is the secure way guys ?
[18:23] <erwyn> not really. It is a all-in-one pc. But from a hardware point of view it looks like a laptop
[18:23] <Thenewone> wrong channel
[18:23] <ioria> cigc++
[18:24] <daftykins> erwyn: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" please
[18:24] <erwyn> daftykins: not sent cause empty
[18:25] <daftykins> erwyn: any result from "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" at all?
[18:25] <ioria> !info  libsigc++-2.0
[18:25] <erwyn> daftykins: I confirm
[18:26] <daftykins> erwyn: do you have auto login on, or do you boot to the login screen? i'd test the guest session if the latter
[18:26] <erwyn> daftykins: guest session is working
[18:27] <erwyn> daftykins: was working with prime as well
[18:28] <Ziber> oh that was easy
[18:28] <daftykins> erwyn: oh ok, in that case there might just be something of your user configuration which has gone funny... here's the quick shotgun approach: logged in at the TTY as your user, not root, run "mv ~/.config ~/.config-old" then "sudo service lightdm restart"
[18:28] <Bashing-om> Vyom: See: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ <- written in a user-friendly way and introduces you to testdisk in a gentle way: , http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step // https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery . Hope this helps .
[18:29] <erwyn> daftykins: okay it's back
[18:30] <ali_> hi
[18:30] <daftykins> erwyn: if you have any software program configurations, they'll be in ~/.config-old/program name here/ so you'd have to move them back if you want them :)
[18:31] <daftykins> erwyn: what you could try to get a proper driver on then, is to run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings"
[18:31] <ali_> anybody know how i can run cpp c++ files in terminal ?
[18:32] <erwyn> daftykins: okay I'll try this thank you
[18:32] <daftykins> np
[18:32] <ioria> ali_ run the executive you mean ?
[18:32] <ali_> no for programming
[18:32] <ali_> no, for programmin
[18:33] <ioria> ali_  in terminal you can write a program with text editor, compile, link and  then execute with ./filename
[18:34] <sjoshi> ali_: you can follow this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-compile-and-run-c-cplusplus-code-in-linux/
[18:34] <banshee> can someone help me out. kinda having serious problems here
[18:35] <banshee> there is no sidebar, and ther eis no bar at the top of the screen
[18:35] <ali_> like this :   desktop$     ./file.cpp   ???
[18:35] <sjoshi> ali_: please follow the the link that i have mentioned
[18:36] <ali_> OK
[18:36] <ioria> ali_  you cannot run a source file
[18:37] <den_is_ok> hello
[18:37] <ioria> ali_  you can run an executive after compilation
[18:37] <ali_> @ioria @sjoshi  : menas i need a compiler , gedit g++ is not compiler ??
[18:38] <ioria> ali_  sure it is
[18:38] <sergio-br2> Are there a special reason why ubuntu does not install broadcom wifi drivers after you intall ubuntu?
[18:38] <ioria> ali_  but i suggest the build utils
[18:38] <den_is_ok> Is there anyone from Russia
[18:39] <erwyn> daftykins: wow shit prime is working so much better that optirun… thanks for the help!
[18:39] <ioria> ali_  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:39] <ciju> Seems like I dont have this  cigc++ installed anywhere.... I went to packages.ubuntu.com and downloaded Package "libsigc++-2.0-dev". When I try to install it I get is "Dependency is not satisfiable: libsigc++-2.0c2a(=<IP_ADDRESS>-1)
[18:39] <sergio-br2> I mean, it gets the driver from the image, so you can access internet from the live DVD. But after install, you don't have the broadcom installed
[18:39] <sergio-br2> it's just stupid, ihmo
[18:40] <SchrodingersScat> !ru | den_is_ok
[18:40] <ali_> @ioria i did it now
[18:40] <daftykins> erwyn: np, enjoy :) and er... easy on the language ;)
[18:40] <EriC^^> !info b43-fwcutter
[18:40] <erwyn> daftykins: yes, sorry ;)
[18:40] <den_is_ok> #ubuntu-ru
[18:42] <ali_> thanks every body
[18:44] <banshee> what ist he package that creates the sidebar?
[18:44] <banshee> mine is missing
[18:44] <ioria> sergio-br2, it depends ... it's proprietary
[18:44] <sergio-br2> yeah, I know
[18:45] <sergio-br2> but I don't have ethernet access
[18:45] <ioria> sergio-br2, wifi or ethernet ?
[18:45] <sergio-br2> so for me, it's just someway stupid this behavior
[18:45] <sergio-br2> wifi
[18:45] <ioria> sergio-br2, ok... STA  then ... a moment
[18:45] <sergio-br2> broadcom wifi, is what I need. And in the place I am, it's not possible to use ethernet
[18:48] <bekks> sergio-br2: by "ethernet" you mean "cabled network"?
[18:48] <sergio-br2> yeah, I don't have it, neither access where I am
[18:49] <sergio-br2> so, my only option is wifi, which don't work
[18:49] <bekks> Define "dont work" then pleas.e
[18:49] <sergio-br2> ubuntu install should install this broadcom wifi, if you are using in the Live
[18:50] <bekks> On the live, yes. But not on the system actually installed.
[18:51] <gunnar> Sergio-br2:  This probably has already been explained to you, but since the broadcom firmware is propriatary it's not legal for Canonical to distribute it with the distro.
[18:51] <gunnar> But I understand how you feel :)
[18:51] <ioria> sergio-br2, try sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source   and then recheck the Additional Drivers
[18:51] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: you can mount the live usb and use the file in pool/b/b43-fwcutter or so to install it
[18:51] <bekks> ioria: that will not change anything.
[18:51] <ioria> oh
[18:51] <bekks> sergio-br2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[18:51] <EriC^^> if you don't have an internet connection
[18:52] <sergio-br2> "it's not legal for Canonical to distribute it with the distro"
[18:52] <ioria> sorry
[18:52] <banshee> anyone...?
[18:52] <sergio-br2> but it cames with the DVD iso... come on...
[18:52] <ciju> exit
[18:54] <daftykins> sergio-br2: best find a place you can / learn how to install the required packages from the disc then :)
[18:55] <gunnar> Sergio-br2:  Sorry I misunderstood, I mean to say that these drivers are closed source and therefor can not be updated or worked on by Canonical, so only broadcom handles that.
[18:55] <zerowaitstate> sergio-br2: welcome to the insane world of patent and copyright law.
[18:56] <sergio-br2> How can I use apt-get, without internet?
[18:56] <sergio-br2> Ok, mount first
[18:56] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: mount the live usb with sudo mount -o loop /dev/sr0 /mnt , then cd to pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter or so and type sudo dpkg -i b43-fwcutter....deb
[18:57] <gunnar> sergia-br2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[18:57] <EriC^^> */mnt/pool/main...
[18:57] <gunnar> *sergio
[18:58] <sergio-br2> "failed to setup loop device: No medium found"
[18:59] <EriC^^> type lsblk and get your usb
[18:59] <EriC^^> sorry sr0 is for the cd
[18:59] <sergio-br2> i.e. /dev/sdb1
[19:00] <EriC^^> sergio-br2: yeah
[19:01] <Ziber> What xen support does 14.04 have?
[19:02] <matthew> hi
 sergio-br2: welcome to the insane world of patent and copyright law.
[19:03] <sergio-br2> insane and stupid
[19:03] <sergio-br2> ok, worked
[19:04] <ovsjanij> test
[19:04] <ovsjanij> What about https?
[19:04] <daftykins> Ziber: the primary virt tech for ubuntu moved to KVM i think, Xen might've become a bit more neglected
[19:06] <ovsjanij> test again
[19:06] <ovsjanij> hi
[19:06] <ovsjanij> hello
[19:06] <ovsjanij> respect
[19:06] <ovsjanij> say som
[19:06] <ioria> ovsjanij, secure http, means with ssl
[19:06] <daftykins> hi, do you have a support question?
[19:06] <sohrab> can anyone help me out?
[19:06] <daftykins> sohrab: not until you explain what is wrong
[19:07] <ovsjanij> ok
[19:07] <ovsjanij> what about ssl
[19:07] <ovsjanij> ?
[19:07] <sohrab> daftykins: the sidebar is missing, and the top menu bar is gone too
[19:07] <ovsjanij> what about him
[19:07] <sohrab> after a reinstall
[19:07] <ioria> ovsjanij, the comunication server-client is encrypted
[19:08] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your support question?
[19:08] <daftykins> sohrab: reinstall, keeping /home - or totally blank?
[19:08] <sohrab> daftykins: also, i deleted python3.4 the other day, and it removed a bunch of othe rprograms. i reinstalled them all. but after a restart i'm missing the sidebar and menu
[19:08] <daftykins> sohrab: does the guest session work?
[19:08] <sohrab> daftykins, sorry, i don't understand your question
[19:08] <sohrab> daftykins: idk what that is.
[19:08] <ovsjanij> ok. fine
[19:09] <ovsjanij> thank you all
[19:09] <ovsjanij> : ) :
[19:09] <sohrab> i'm on the computer right now. it starts up, but it's difficult to open anything
[19:09] <daftykins> sohrab: it's where you click 'guest session' on the login screen
[19:09] <ioria> ovsjanij, try openssl
[19:10] <sohrab> daftykins: should i try to start a guest session? i would need to restart (because the top menu bar doesn't exist -- i restart from the command line using ctrl-alt-f1)
[19:10] <daftykins> sohrab: sure - if you get the login screen and don't have auto-login yep
[19:11] <ovsjanij> please
[19:11] <ovsjanij> give me something information
[19:11] <ovsjanij> about
[19:11] <ovsjanij> linux distr
[19:11] <sohrab> daftykins, k, i can do that. what will it show? whether the same problem exists on the guest account?
[19:11] <ovsjanij> for us
[19:11] <bekks> ioria: We dont even know what he is going to do?
[19:11] <ovsjanij> for me
[19:11] <bekks> ovsjanij: "Ubuntu".
[19:11] <daftykins> ovsjanij: please phrase a complete question on a single line if you want a response.
[19:11] <ovsjanij> and for..
[19:11] <ioria> true
[19:11] <daftykins> ovsjanij: stop pressing enter. it is spammy and irritating.
[19:12] <ovsjanij> deinterlejsting
[19:13] <ovsjanij> deindeterleisting, my friends
[19:13] <daftykins> ovsjanij: you are making zero sense unfortunately
[19:13] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your actual support question?
[19:13] <jParkton> ovsjanij: what do you need information on?
[19:14] <ovsjanij> about it.
[19:14] <bekks> ovsjanij: About what?
[19:14] <ovsjanij> about flash.
[19:15] <bekks> ovsjanij: Whats your actual Ubuntu support question?
[19:15] <gunnar> He's obviously trolling. Ignore.
[19:15] <sohrab> daftykins, k, i can do that. what will it show? whether the same problem exists on the guest account?
[19:16] <daftykins> sohrab: yes whether it's your user config or a system wide issue
[19:16] <ovsjanij> What tipe of device you will develope?
[19:17] <sohrab> daftykins, ok, thanks. will do that right now
[19:17] <bazhang> ovsjanij, thats not on topic here
[19:17] <ovsjanij> bazhang sorry
[19:17] <bazhang> ovsjanij, this is ubuntu support only, take chat elsewhere
[19:29] <Ziber> I tried installing bird, and it installed it, but the upstart script failed (it never seems to know what its own PID is). How can I get apt-get to stop giving me those errors?
[19:30] <gunnar> Ziber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto ?
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> what's bird?
[19:30] <Ziber> bird is a BGP daemon
[19:30] <bekks> Ziber: And whats the message you get?
[19:31] <Ziber> http://pastebin.com/xw3HHnXA
[19:31] <streulma> hello I have the ASUS X205TA but sound is as expected not working it is rt5648 and is for the moment unsupported in kernel 4.0 rc7
[19:31] <streulma> other ones also has an X205TA ?
[19:32] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[19:32] <hroi> hi
[19:32] <TheBigDeal> When does ubuntu 15.04 officially release?
[19:32] <Ziber> bekks: Any idea?
[19:32] <hroi> apt is not allowing me to install anything
[19:32] <gunnar> Ziber, what about building from source?
[19:32] <hroi> it says, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[19:33] <hroi> is that good advice?
[19:33] <bekks> Ziber: Take a look at the script and find ou why it isnt starting up.
[19:33] <bekks> gunnar: that will not magically fix the script.
[19:33] <Ziber> bekks: It doesn't ever know its own pid.
[19:34] <gunnar> bekks: I'm aware of that, was hoping the script aws in the source tarball to get him to take a look at it.
[19:34] <Ziber> bird start/running, process 2223
[19:34] <Ziber> root@apollo:~# ps aux | grep bird
[19:34] <Ziber> bird      2225  0.0  0.0  15344  2472 ?        S    15:34   0:00 /usr/sbin/bird -f -u bird -g bird
[19:34] <ioria> Ziber there was a reason to install this bird ?
[19:34] <Ziber> I wouldn't install it if there wasn't a reason :)
[19:35] <ioria> Ziber to test it ?
[19:35] <Ziber> I'm playing with it on the DN42 network
[19:36] <gunnar> and who knows the script could possibly be ok in the tarball, and not in the repos.  Stranger things have happened :)
[19:37] <ioria> !info bird
[19:39] <__martin__> how to turn off ALR key GRAB by Unity the quickest way? thanks
[19:39] <sohrab> daftykins: good call. logging in as a guest user solves the problem
[19:40] <__martin__> how to turn off ALR key GRAB by Unity the quickest way? thanks
[19:40] <__martin__> ALT*
[19:40] <Ziber> No ideas about bird then?
[19:40] <daftykins> sohrab: but if you switch back to your normal user, is it still causing trouble? if so, open a terminal or hit ctrl+alt+F1 and login, then try "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" for a test
[19:41] <gunnar> Ziber: Just for my peace of mind, could you try building bird from source?
[19:42] <sohrab> daftykins, k, gonna do that now, thanks
[19:42] <Ziber> gunnar: Yeah, I suppose. I'm looking at the upstart script first ho
[19:42] <Ziber> *tho
[19:42] <daftykins> sohrab: bear in mind it will 'hide' all your softwares settings, but you can move the contents of .configold back one by one to resolve that
[19:42] <gunnar> Ziber: Cool
[19:43] <sohrab> daftykins, i dont understand
[19:44] <sohrab> daftykins: i just typed the command. it just goes blank and returns to thsi guest session
[19:44] <Ziber> is start-stop-daemon a global thing?
[19:44] <daftykins> sohrab: make sure you ran it as your user and not as the guest, then restart, log in as your user and the desktop should work as normal
[19:45] <sohrab> daftykins, was i supposed to do the opposite? mv ~/.configold ~/.config?
[19:46] <daftykins> sohrab: nope
[19:46] <sohrab> daftykins, okay, i understand. will restart now
[19:47] <ioria> Ziber i had no problem to install it
[19:47] <Ziber> via apt?
[19:47] <__martin__> got it
[19:47] <ioria> Ziber yep
[19:48] <Ziber> does the output of its pid (when restarting it) match ps aux | grep bird?
[19:48] <ioria> Ziber  5299 ?        00:00:00 bird
[19:48] <ioria>  5342 ?        00:00:00 bird6
[19:49] <Ziber> That didn't answer my question.
[19:49] <sohrab> daftykins: no luck.
[19:49] <ioria> Ziber  yes ...
[19:49] <Ziber> Well, I purged it and reinstalled it. No change.
[19:50] <daftykins> sohrab: just to be sure, when you ran the mv command i mentioned - was it in a terminal inside the guest session (GUI) ?
[19:50] <yaclm> Hello! My laptop lags after startup and there is a huge delay for mouse and keyboard inputs. htop shows 50% cpu load (kernel) but doesn't show which command causes this huge load. any hints, keywords, solutions?
[19:50] <ioria> Ziber  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810844/
[19:51] <sohrab> daftykins: no it wasn't it was inside the other session (my normal one) using ctrl-alt-f1
[19:51] <bekks> yaclm: Show us a pastebin of "top" please.
[19:51] <gunnar> Ziber: I just tried to install bird too,  I got the same error as you.
[19:51] <Ziber> Huh.
[19:51] <Ziber> ioria: what OS?
[19:51] <ioria> Ziber  utopic
[19:51] <daftykins> sohrab: ah good good, so you saw "myusername@computername:~# " before you ran it?
[19:52] <sohrab> daftykins: yes
[19:52] <Ziber> ioria: 14.04?
[19:53] <ioria> Ziber  no..  10
[19:53] <Ziber> Okay, so difference.
[19:53] <daftykins> sohrab: definitely the standard unity desktop yeah?
[19:53] <yaclm> bekks, this problem lasts for about 1 minute after startup in ~3/5 times. I will try to reproduce the problem and pastebin it. on Debian 7.8 htop showed a kworker thread causing 50% load, ubuntu shows nothing.
[19:53] <ioria> Ziber  3.16.0-34-generic
[19:54] <Ziber> ioria: can you just paste your upstart script?
[19:54] <sohrab> daftykins: i think so. don't remember changing anything.
[19:54] <bekks> yaclm: So show us a "top" output, not a "htop" one :)
[19:54] <sohrab> daftykins: i deleted python a few days ago, and i think i reinstalled it properly, could that be it?
[19:55] <sohrab> daftykins: so, before i did that, i screwed around with a setting to get past a python bug. i think i set an environmental variable or soemthing
[19:55] <daftykins> sohrab: not if it looks and behaves fine in the guest session, nah
[19:55] <daftykins> sohrab: hrmm i don't know if unity uses python, wouldn't hurt to try and reverse it
[19:56] <yaclm> bekks, top doesn't show anything, too, but give me a minute i will try to reproduce the problem and save top's output.
[19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: ok. maybe it's that variable i changed? i think i tried to start python as 2.7 (vs the 3.4 version that i had installed)
[19:56] <ioria> Ziber  /etc/init.d/   no ?
[19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: where is it stored?
[19:56] <daftykins> sohrab: no clue i'm afraid
[19:56] <Ziber> ioria: yes.
[19:56] <sohrab> daftykins: okay, thank you for your help
[19:56] <Anonymauz> anyone can help to troubleshoot a weird thing with layouts?
[19:58] <ioria> Ziber  please, give me  the name... :-(
[19:58] <Ziber> ioria: bired
[19:58] <Ziber> *bird
[19:58] <Anonymauz> i am using kubuntu 15.04, i have en and ru keyboard layouts. When i switch to another window or press Enter in browser text edit field - my layout switches to default(en_US). I have "Global switching policy" in keyboard settings. What's wrong with it?
[19:58] <ioria> Ziber  bird and bird6 ...
[19:58] <ioria> coming
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Anonymauz: #ubuntu+1 for Vivid support
[19:59] <ioria> Ziber  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810909/
[20:00] <ubx2> hello
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Hi ubx2
[20:00] <ioria> Ziber  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10810914/
[20:03] <ubx2> i have a hundreds of virtual servers around the world and i'm looking to build my own backup solution. most of the servers are deployed using automation so only a few things need to be backed up like clients website files etc to remote object storage (s3/google). should i build an application that remotely connects to each server and rsyncs the relevant files or do i let each machine back itself up?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> ubx2: what storage do they sit on (hoping netapp)
[20:04] <daftykins> ubx2: probably a better question for #linux in general, not ubuntu support.
[20:04] <gunnar> Ziber: I just downloaded and built from the sources, that worked without problems and htop reports correct PID.
[20:04] <compdoc> backintime is nice. rsync is nice, but you'll ahve to create crons
[20:04] <compdoc> what size is your storage?
[20:05] <gunnar> Ziber: That's at least one solution, just build from source.
[20:05] <bekks> ubx2: That application is already invented, and its names are bacula or backuppc, e.g.
[20:06] <Ziber> gunnar: could probably just use that upstart script
[20:06] <ioria> Ziber  hodně štěstí
[20:06] <gunnar> Ziber: Or that, just wanted to let you know it works. :)
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> bekks: if it's netapp then it's even easier :-)
[20:06] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I thought he is using a storage, not some toy :>
[20:07] <ioria> Ziber  tak ahoj
[20:07] <gunnar> Ziber:  You'll need flex, bison and libreadline-dev to build from sources though.
[20:08] <ioria> Ziber  i mean good luck with that
[20:08] <gunnar> iroria: Means to say good luck and bye?
[20:08] <gunnar> iroria: :-D
[20:08] <ioria> yep you too gunnar :-)
[20:09] <gunnar> don't want to go offtopic again.  I got yelled at.  So.. kewl? :P
[20:10] <Ziber> nah, the upstart script still has the wrong one.
[20:11] <gunnar> Ziber: Strange, like I said I built from source and used the startscript from the tarball, no problems on this end.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> bekks: have you used netapp. It rocks
[20:12] <gunnar> Ziber: Maybe just ditch the apt-get version and build from source and use that?
[20:12] <Ziber> :/
[20:12] <Ziber> where'd you get the source?
[20:12] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I did. I dont like them.
[20:12] <gunnar> one moment
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> bekks: gotcha
[20:12] <gunnar> Ziber: http://bird.network.cz/?download
[20:12] <Ziber> ty
[20:13] <gunnar> np
[20:16] <peti> hello
[20:16] <GeHa> hello
[20:17] <hkrrsx> morning again
[20:18] <Ziber> It didn't, uh, make a start script?
[20:20] <daftykins> hkrrsx: wb
[20:20] <hkrrsx> daftykins: ty
[20:20] <Ziber> where's the start script?
[20:21] <_kristof> hi! is there a guide for beginners installing ubuntu _server_ ?
[20:21] <gunnar> Ziber: Don't need one, just set params in the conf /etc/bird.conf and your ports in bird.ctl
[20:21] <_kristof> (and configuring)
[20:22] <gunnar> ubuntu server guide?
[20:22] <Ziber> See, that doesn't solve my problem at all :)
[20:22] <_kristof> oh I just found the #ubuntu-server channel
[20:22] <gunnar> Ziber: I'm sorry to have failed you.
[20:22] <jnollette> hello, how do i install from a default package, i want to roll back
[20:22] <gunnar> Ziber: I tried at least
[20:22] <Ziber> Thought someone set something about the start script?
[20:23] <gunnar> ioria is responsible...
[20:24] <dzan> hi, is there a way to get the minimal image for the daily build?
[20:25] <hkrrsx> dzan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:27] <dzan> hkrrsx: yes I saw those but i'm looking for the bleeding edge version
[20:29] <hkrrsx> dzan: Sorry, I can find the mini images and the 15.04 daily builds but not a daily build of the mini image
[20:30] <Bashing-om> dzan: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso (??). Be aware it is a download .
[20:30] <OerHeks> dzan, take the daily server http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20150411/ fits on cd
[20:34] <dzan> OerHeks: ok thx guess that's the way to go, just read there are no mini's made for the daily
[20:35] <OerHeks> Yes, also daily netboot AFAIK
[20:35] <BobbyJenkins> Hello, I currently have a 3 monitor desktop PC running Ubuntu 14.04. When I play any video online, it always displays it on the wrong monitor, and when I click on something on my other monitors while it is playing the video, it minimizes itself. Any way to resolve these issues?
[20:36] <Guest82262> @BobyJenkins, what does your GPU setup look like?
[20:37] <azizLIGHT> anyone use a weather indicator? which one do you use? i tried my-weather-indicator but it really doesnt work for me and crashes.
[20:38] <k1l> azizLIGHT: that works here like it should
[20:38] <BobbyJenkins> It is the AMD Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
[20:39] <poz> hi guys, ummm what is that audio software which allows you to adjust things like the auto power off
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> k1l: when i click "Search Location" it crashes for me after a long freeze
[20:39] <poz> my speaks are flipping out. turning on and off non stop
[20:39] <poz> speakers*
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> k1l: not being able to pick the location, i get the wrong weather.
[20:39] <werbett> Alguém...
[20:39] <hkrrsx> poz: Are you sure it's a software-related issue?
[20:40] <werbett> que fale português
[20:40] <k1l> !pt | werbett
[20:40] <poz> hkrrsx, your still here! guess what! I made ubuntu stick to fix my plymouth issue and when I tryed to boot up, my computer worked!
[20:40] <hkrrsx> Magnificent!
[20:41] <BobbyJenkins> is the GPU not compatible with Ubuntu? It is a pretty powerful GPU...
[20:41] <azizLIGHT> k1l: is it because i have some kind of location api or something disabled in my ubuntu install. where do i adjust such a thing, if it exists
[20:41] <k1l> azizLIGHT: try to see in the logs what happens. and what ubuntu are you on exactly? what version of myweather indocator etc?
[20:41] <poz> but now I am having this speaker issue. and no, it might not be software, but I typically have this issue on fresh installs and it is fixed by turning off the auto power off off
[20:41] <azizLIGHT> k1l: im on 14.04 x64 and this is the latest 0.6.9 indicator
[20:42] <hkrrsx> poz: Perhaps you mean Power Management? To disable turning off of the monitor and hard drive?
[20:43] <poz> no, thats not it
[20:43] <hkrrsx> poz: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apmd ?
[20:44] <k1l> azizLIGHT: well, "it works for me". so without logs its hard to tell what is going wrong
[20:44] <poz> alsamixer, thats what i was looking for
[20:45] <sohrab> where can i find user configuration stuff? i have one user whose session doesn't work correctly. the guest user session works normally
[20:46] <poz> well it got rid of all of the crackleing, but now I dont hear anything
[20:46] <EriC^^> sohrab: ~/.config ~/.cache ~/.gconf
[20:46] <hkrrsx> poz: Try changing the sound card with F6 and playing with those settings ?
[20:47] <sohrab> EriC^^: thank you. is the guest user's config saved anywhere?
[20:48] <poz> thats what I am doing now
[20:48] <hkrrsx> poz: Good work
[20:48] <EriC^^> sohrab: probably in /tmp/guest-something i think
[20:48] <sohrab> is it a bad idea to reset a user's settings?
[20:49] <EriC^^> sohrab: depends on what he has configured
[20:49] <azizLIGHT> k1l: i think openweathermap is giving me wrong weather
[20:49] <azizLIGHT> k1l: like 10 degrees off...
[20:49] <EriC^^> sohrab: programs that autostart are in ~/.config/autostart
[20:49] <k1l> well, i use the yahoo one. just try and error what works best for your location
[20:49] <EriC^^> so you might want to copy whatever .desktop files are in there, and other stuff depending on the user
[20:50] <EriC^^> sohrab: ^
[20:51] <Guest45909> exit
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> k1l: when i switch to the yahoo service, the log just shows it looking up my location and just waiting and not doing anyhting, while the dialog box is stuck
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> wierd
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> and the url its looking up does give a response
[20:52] <s41l0r> hi, i accidently did a "mv *" now all files from that directory are gone. is there any chance to get them back?
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> in my browser
[20:52] <k1l> azizLIGHT: do you try automatic location? what if you just set the location?
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> im trying to set location. i havent tried auto
[20:52] <azizLIGHT> will try that now
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> s41l0r  where did you move them to?
[20:52] <poz> hkrrsx, I think it might be hardware this time. a problem with my motherboard... I plugged my speakers into the front jack and now it works
[20:53] <s41l0r> MonkeyDust: I dont know I did not set any target just "mv *"
[20:53] <azizLIGHT> auto on yahoo also off by 5 degrees
[20:53] <hkrrsx> poz: You're quickly becoming a master troubleshooter :)
[20:53] <azizLIGHT> will try wunderground now..
[20:54] <sohrab> EriC^^: k, thanks. ugh this is complicated
[20:54] <poz> hkrrsx, i am just afraid to reboot my computer now... it might not turn back on!
[20:54] <connewagon> Hi guys .. I set up a Ubuntu VM using VMWare on my desktop, and I'm running irssi on that
[20:54] <connewagon> I connected to this server comfortably, but when I try some other ones it doesn't work
[20:54] <azizLIGHT> k1l: it keeps putting me in Potwin, KS when i do auto
[20:55] <hkrrsx> poz: Understandable but it's gotta be rebooted eventually .... might as well find out now
[20:55] <hkrrsx> poz: You can always get back here from another computer
[20:55] <connewagon> it says "Connection refused", though it works from windows
[20:55] <connewagon> any ideas ?
[20:55] <azizLIGHT> k1l: is there some location thing i disabled in ubuntu...
[20:55] <k1l> azizLIGHT: dont know
[20:56] <poz> haha yeah, I will soon. I just have a few things to do on here first
[20:56] <gunnar> connewagon:  I'm using irssi too, no problems connecting to to other servers here.  Are you sure you type the address correctly?
[20:57] <connewagon> yeah .. Specifically i'm trying to connect to twitch and Quakenet
[20:57] <azizLIGHT> k1l: ok i got it lol
[20:57] <gunnar> hmmm...
[20:57] <azizLIGHT> thank god
[20:57] <connewagon> Quakenet is setup by default, so it should work when I run "/connect QuakeNet"
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> connewagon  if those channels are on freenode, you shoud better ask in #freenode
[20:58] <gunnar> try "/connect blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org"
[20:59] <gunnar> MonkeyDust: He can't connect to the servers...
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> gunnar  yes, i misread...
[20:59] <gunnar> MonkeyDust: Happens to the best of us :P
[21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 [blacklotus] -!- Irssi: Looking up blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org
[21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 [blacklotus] -!- Irssi: Connecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [<IP_ADDRESS>] port 6667
[21:00] <connewagon> 13:59 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org port 6667 [Connection refused]
[21:00] <gunnar> Connewagon: Weird...
[21:00] <gunnar> brb
[21:00] <connewagon> When i connect to ubuntu's irc, I got a message like "couldn't find hostname" or similar
[21:01] <connewagon> not sure if the other servers are kicking me out early
[21:01] <connewagon> because of some misconfiguration
[21:01] <poz> does anyone know the best temperature monitor for cpu and gpu? preferably with a gui? psensor works good, but i am wondering if there is one with a nice smooth curvy line like the sexy process monitor cpu usage one
[21:01] <gunnar> Well I just tried connecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org, and all is well.
[21:02] <c^> Unlikely, it sounds like it's just bouncing your connections connewagon. Try connecting from another IP?
[21:02] <hkrrsx> connewagon: Try connecting to port 7070 ?
[21:02] <connewagon> hkrrsx: giving it a shot
[21:03] <OnkelTem> Hi! Would you recommend a reader for Linux with a click-to-translate feature?
[21:03] <gunnar> have to set your local hostname?
[21:03] <c^> It's either the endpoint bouncing your connections (unlikely), the route not completing (highly unlikely), a misconfiguration on your client not allowing connections outbound (likely) or some DNS-related issue.
[21:03] <connewagon> umm .. how do i specify the port in irssi when i do /connect or such ?
[21:04] <gunnar> connewagon: Hostname issues are generally cause by DNS server problems
[21:04] <gunnar> one moment
[21:04] <connewagon> I have set the hostname for the VM, but nothing at irssi level
[21:04] <c^> ./connect <IP> (+)<PORT>
[21:04] <OnkelTem> connewagon: use weechat (sorry for this offtopic)
[21:04] <hkrrsx> c^: +1
[21:04] <OnkelTem> connewagon: or /j irrsi
[21:04] <anothermoron> lol weechat
[21:04] <anothermoron> no thanks
[21:04] <jiohdi> OnkelTem, calibre
[21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Looking up blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org
[21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org [<IP_ADDRESS>] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort
[21:05] <OnkelTem> anothermoron: this is a personal choice. But I switched to weechat after 5 years on irssi
[21:05] <connewagon> 14:04 [blacklotus2] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org port 6667 [Connection refused]
[21:05] <connewagon> oops .. wrong version .. but got same message for port 7070 too
[21:05] <OnkelTem> connewagon: please don't. Ask irrsi questions on their channel
[21:05] <c^> goto #irrsi
[21:05] <OnkelTem> jiohdi: thanks, gonna check it out
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[21:06] <connewagon> OnkelTem: Good point, I'll test this with weechat. If it works with that, I'll know its an irssi question
[21:06] <c^> hm
[21:06] <OnkelTem> connewagon: I didn't say this doesn't work in irssi. Irrsi is quite good
[21:06] <c^> try tunneling the connection through a proxy to check if it's just rejecting your IP
[21:07] <c^> Personally, I hate irssi
[21:07] <c^> ZNC is where it's at ;)
[21:07] <OnkelTem> weechat! :)
[21:07] <OnkelTem> weeeee
[21:07] <c^> Egh, not my cup of tea
[21:07] <c^> ZNC + HexChat
[21:07] <connewagon> OnkelTem: I'm quite used to irssi to change too. And weechat doesn't seem to work either for quakenet
[21:08] <connewagon> c^: Let me give that a shot
[21:08] <c^> Hang on.. weechat didn't work either
[21:08] <OnkelTem> c^: I don't know about them, so can't say really. Maybe if I try, I find it very nice
[21:08] <c^> Tried connecting to freenode from that same client?
[21:09] <connewagon> c^: Just tried connecting to chat.freenode.net, and it doesn't seem to work either
[21:10] <c^> DNS
[21:10] <c^> cough cough
[21:10] <c^> try ping chat.freenode.net in a console
[21:10] <c^> and ping google.com
[21:10] <gunnar> from the VM
[21:10] <OnkelTem> connewagon: don't like to be nerdy, but again #weechat can help :)
[21:10] <c^> OnkelTem > this is just a DNS issue
[21:10] <c^> No need to push the conversation into another off-topic channel
[21:11] <OnkelTem> ah, didn't read :)
[21:11] <OnkelTem> So, now to calibre
[21:11] <connewagon> ping works for fine
[21:11] <connewagon> for all the servers
[21:12] <c^> o.o
[21:12] <connewagon> quakenet, freenode, google, everything!
[21:12] <hkrrsx> connewagon: Have you been banned from that channel?
[21:12] <c^> wut
[21:12] <hkrrsx>  s/channel/server
[21:12] <c^> all of them hkrrsx?
[21:12] <connewagon> hkrrsx: i double i've been banned in ALL of them
[21:12] <c^> yeah, no
[21:12] <gunnar> connewagon: What abiut the dns settings in the VM, have you checked them? or are u just using NAT?
[21:12] <connewagon> i tried both bridged, and NAT
[21:12] <connewagon> and bridged was working last week, today that stopped working too
[21:13] <gunnar> unique..
[21:13] <c^> ._. indeed
[21:13] <connewagon> i wonder if i look like im using a proxy server or something
[21:13] <c^> It wouldn't stop you still
[21:13] <c^> Eh, this is a unique issue
[21:14] <c^> Need to head off, sorry I couldn't help more
[21:14] <c^> But yeah, looks like some kind of resolution issue
[21:14] <connewagon> c^: Sure!
[21:14] <connewagon> Yeah ..
[21:14] <c^> Try connecting with IPs instead of hostnames
[21:14] <c^> that'll eliminate any DNS issues
[21:15] <connewagon> ill give that a shot
[21:15] <gunnar> connewagon: http://forums.mirc.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1372&site_id=1#import
[21:15] <gunnar> Scroll down to connection refused and cechk if anything there is applicable to you.
[21:15] <connewagon> that seems to make sense
[21:15] <connewagon> maybe im connecting to an old ip
[21:16] <connewagon> looks promising
[21:16] <gunnar> connewagon: I hope it helps
[21:16] <OnkelTem> I'm mighty. I've downloaded THE BLACK LIBRARY.
[21:16] <connewagon> me too!
[21:17] <OnkelTem> hehe
[21:17] <connewagon> no :(
[21:17] <daftykins> please try and keep it to support only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:17] <OnkelTem> sorry
[21:17] <connewagon> sorry!
[21:17] <hkrrsx> connewagon: You said the problem is on a guest virtual machine ..... does the host machine have this same problem ?
[21:18] <connewagon> it didn't last week .. I haven't tried this week
[21:18] <connewagon> Let me give it a shot
[21:18] <hkrrsx> Please
[21:18] <gunnar> hkrrsx: all yours, going back to Dilbert.
[21:18] <hkrrsx> gunnar: lol thanks for your help
[21:19] <gunnar> :P
[21:19] <connewagon> :D Thanks for the help gunnar, hkrrsx: I join #ubuntu-offtopic so we dont take over the channel!
[21:21] <hkrrsx> connewagon: It's a little too late for that but I'd say either /join #irssi or /join #weechat respectively
[21:21] <hkrrsx> :)
[21:21] <connewagon> Trying that too !
[21:21] <hkrrsx> Additionally, I do not believe your issue to be DNS related since the connection properly resolved blacklotus.ca.us.quakenet.org to <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:22] <hkrrsx> I got the same IP when I did DNS resolution a couple of minutes ago
[21:22] <hkrrsx> I think this is either a client configuration issue or possibly a network-related issue since you're working from a virtual machine (?)
[21:24] <connewagon> Yeah .. it worked fine on the host machine, so its somewhere else before it even comes to irssi
[21:24] <mudtar> I'm having some trouble with wireless networking on my Lenovo ideapad Z710 (LENOVO_MT_20250). My wireless interface is an Intel Wireless 7260. While booting, I see the message "[   22.385290] ideapad_laptop: timeout in write_ec_cmd". (What is the name of the log/stream that this message is a part of, for future reference?) Then "Waiting for network configuration..." and finally "Booting system without full network configuration..." Up
[21:24] <mudtar> on logging in with Gnome 3, Gnome Network Manager yeilds "The system network services are not compatible with this verison." About five minutes later, connectivity resumes as normal and I am able to connect to my network. I am trying to sort out what's going on via dmesg, but I can't put all the pieces together myself.
[21:25] <connewagon> hkrrsx: I think I'm going to call it a day and figure this out later .. Thanks for the help everyone :) I'll post back if I figure something out
[21:25] <hkrrsx> connewagon: We'll be here :)
[21:25] <hkrrsx> Best of luck
[21:27] <connewagon> thanks! :)
[21:27] <gunnar> mudtar: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.c#L183
[21:27] <gunnar> maybe this can help.
[21:27] <gunnar> Seems to be related to ACPI
[21:28] <mudtar> gunnar, thanks for finding that. I'll take a look.
[21:29] <mudtar> For what it's worth, this was all working fine on a prior 14.04 installation. I then tried to install Debian, ran into some (at the time) insurmountable networking problems and installed this instance of Ubuntu again. Don't know what could be all that different.
[21:30] <OnkelTem> jiohdi: thank you! Calibre is exactly what I was looking for
[21:31] <grill> hey. is it possible to mount a directory contained within a device (which would prevent users from seeing other parts of the mounted device)
[21:31] <codepython777> I've a machine on which there is an executable that runs at startup (uwsgi). How do i find out who started the process? Its not in rc.local
[21:33] <mudtar> gunnar, I have a vague grasp of what ACPI is and how it might interface with this network interface issue. I'll continue reading about it. Might you be able to point me in the right direction about a place to start in perhaps finding the fail point of ACPI that triggered this timeout?
[21:33] <gunnar> mudtar: Sorry bud, I lack the knowledge.
[21:33] <mudtar> No prob. Thanks for your valuable input!
[21:34] <gunnar> mudtar: Anytime
[21:34] <jiohdi> OnkelTem, (^_^)
[21:35] <hkrrsx> codepython777: Try running " sudo grep -r uwsgi /etc/rc.* " and hopefully, you'll find that script
[21:35] <MoPac> Hello. Is there any way within a running Ubuntu session to check the status of my CMOS unit or battery?  I have suddently encountered a condition where my laptop's power is cut instantly when AC is disconnected (even under suspend), and a CMOS checksum error shows up on boot.
[21:35] <hkrrsx> codepython777: If it's being run at startup, it's most likely being run by root
[21:36] <MoPac> Come to think of it, I don't even know if an issue solely with the CMOS battery could cause the machine to be unable to continue on normal battery power without AC...
[21:38] <amazonian> Hey guys. Something happened when I tried to upgrade ubuntu. Couldn't boot. So I chose my last kernel and booted into it.
[21:38] <amazonian> How do I remove the newest kernel and try upgrading again?
[21:38] <hkrrsx> codepython777: Additionally, you could run " ps aux | grep uwsgi " and that'll give you plenty of details about the process if it's currently running
[21:38] <daftykins> MoPac: doesn't sound ubuntu related, don't think i've seen a CMOS battery go in a laptop in fact
[21:39] <daftykins> i would think it'd only fail to power on if the battery were faulty
[21:39] <MoPac> daftykins: I'm wondering if the OS has any utilities that could help diagnose
[21:39] <daftykins> no
[21:39] <gunnar> amazonian:  cd to /boot/ and delete all the files named after the newer kernel version.
[21:40] <amazonian> gunnar: thanks
[21:40] <gunnar> np
[21:40] <MoPac> Maybe something in the OS I could use to exclude the main battery or charging circuit as the culprit?
[21:40] <amazonian> gunnar: 3.13.0-49 is the newest version?
[21:40] <ZeloZelos> still trying to get a dell dimension 3000 to run ubuntu. it is having a display issue. it appears the driver is the culprit? can anyone confirm/advise? i am currently dl'n xubuntu, maybe xfce will work
[21:41] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: there have likely been a hundred different 3000 series models, we can't know the hardware spec :)
[21:41] <ZeloZelos> IF i was to track down a driver that works for it's card, how do i install it if i cannot see what i am doing?
[21:41] <gunnar> amazonian:  Only you know that.  A safe bet is to do uname -r and just keep the files on /boot/ that aren't named after the current kernel version you're running.
[21:41] <ZeloZelos> good point daftykins i dont even know however ..i should figure that out though huh ;)
[21:42] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: slow down. you think there's a graphics driver issue? what's the graphics hardware?
[21:42] <mudtar> gunnar, is it not best when uninstalling a prior kernel to do it through the package manager?
[21:42] <amazonian> gunnar: thanks
[21:42] <ZeloZelos> looking it up right now daftykins
[21:42] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: can you reach a TTY after booting? or have you been unable to install?
[21:43] <ZeloZelos> all i see is a blank screen, the numlock turns on and off and it appears to be running (hd light flashes sometimes)
[21:43] <Layl> heya, I'm trying to set up ubuntu on my existing windows box, but the dual boot guide seems woefully out of date, not at all reflecting the current installer
[21:43] <Layl> I'm hitting this screen and I've got no idea what to do from here http://i.imgur.com/930ErYI.jpg
[21:43] <gunnar> mudtar: Yes it's safer.
[21:43] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: hmm could be bad media, DVD or USB flash drive?
[21:43] <ZeloZelos> what?
[21:44] <daftykins> Layl: looks like you're trying to install to an intel fakeRAID set of disks
[21:44] <gunnar> mudtar: But I'm thinking since he upgraded the entire system, it's problematic to roll back that entire process, so it's a simpler solution to just manually removing the other kernel version.. I think..
[21:44] <ZeloZelos> it has xp, everything is running fine. did a install of ubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu and the one with gnome, no display
[21:44] <Layl> daftykins, I have a RAID setup yea
[21:44] <daftykins> Layl: i would not continue there without a full backup :)
[21:44] <daftykins> here be dragons!
[21:45] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: tried booting with nomodeset?
[21:45] <Layl> I do not have any data that would be more than a minor annoyance if lost
[21:45] <daftykins> !raid
[21:45] <mudtar> gunnar, that makes sense. But it would only be the kernel package that he'd be uninstalling, yeah? As I understand, it's impossible to roll back a whole set up upgraded packages as one process.
[21:45] <daftykins> Layl: might be something of use there, i think you need to install something prior to running install.
[21:45] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, what is nomodeset?
[21:45] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ZeloZelos
[21:46] <EriC^^> mudtar: gunnar yeah he'd only be uninstalling the kernels
[21:46] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.something
[21:46] <ZeloZelos> thank you i will try it too, still looking up those parts
[21:46] <EriC^^> wasn't he asking about booting the old ones though or did i misread?
[21:46] <gunnar>  EriC^^:  Thanks for clarifying. :)
[21:47] <Layl> so, what do I do from here daftykins?
[21:47] <mudtar> EriC^^, he was asking about uninstalling a messed up kernel so that he could try to install again.
[21:47] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: i'd just boot to a working shell, run "lspci" and see the actual hardware first hand :) or boot XP and read it in device manager
[21:47] <gunnar> He already booted from the old one.
[21:47] <omosoj> hi all, i have a weird problem. one of the users' settings is screwed up and their session doesn't have the eclipse side bar, nor the top menu bar, (among other things).
[21:47] <daftykins> Layl: read the links
[21:47] <EriC^^> oh ok
[21:48] <gunnar> I was just worried about the update approach he chose, so I thought it would be best to just remove the messed up kernel from /boot/ and start fresh.
[21:48] <Layl> this is quite the annoyance, I was really hoping for a quick 20 minutes install
[21:48] <mudtar> What is the cleanest way to find a list of all installed kernels?
[21:48] <daftykins> Layl: not given your systems RAID config, that's what we call an exotic mess :)
[21:48] <bekks> mudtar: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[21:49] <mudtar> Thanks, bekks.
[21:49] <Layl> gonna guess there's no easy how-to step by step guide for it
[21:51] <EriC^^> mudtar: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ $2 ~ /linux-image/ {print$2}' that's pretty clean
[21:51] <gunnar> I personally build my kernel from source and tailor it to my system, one can learn tons in a very short time by doing that.
[21:51] <EriC^^> ( or anal )
[21:51] <gunnar> lol
[21:51] <ZeloZelos> ok got it, its the intel 82865g graphics controller
[21:52] <mudtar> EriC^^, that is nice'n clean. I should really take the time to better figure out awk.
[21:52] <ZeloZelos> i wish i could just leave xp on it, but of course, its completely vulnerable now
[21:52] <gunnar> Yes awk is a gem.
[21:54] <mudtar> gunnar, what do you call the class of "things" that Linux/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.c belongs to? Is this a kernel module?
[21:54] <ZeloZelos> i plan on giving it to someone, so i cannot do a lot of mods/tweaks that will require fixing or are less reliable, i wanted an out-of-box fix ;(
[21:55] <gunnar> mudtar:  Part of one yes,  this is the raw c source file for several modules.
[21:55] <gunnar> at least in the link I sent you.
[21:57] <ZeloZelos> the nomodeset looks promising, i will reinstall ubuntu again and try that out, thank you daftykins
[21:58] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: hang on, your install media boots fine then? no issues at that point?
[21:58] <ZeloZelos> nope
[21:58] <ZeloZelos> it all is perfect
[21:58] <Beast> Anyone remember a firewall front end that was available a few years ago, from an ppa repo that was very extreme to the point where a user could easily block internet connectivity if he didn't know what he was doing. Wasn't GUFW
[21:58] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: try installing with "updates from online" disabled, if you get me
[21:58] <daftykins> should be a tickbox / just by keeping it offline
[21:59] <Beast> It was firewalling for the extremely paranoid.
[21:59] <ZeloZelos> i did that, it actually is connected via usb-wireless card, so it is not available durring install (i take it out)
[21:59] <mudtar> gunnar, how does the structure of the code correspond to the structure of a module? For example, is each function in the file you linked me to a module? Or does the file itself compile into a single module? Or is it part of a module composed of the C source in its parent directory? Perhaps the question is misguided.
[22:00] <hkrrsx> Beast: http://alternativeto.net/software/gufw/?platform=linux
[22:00] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, can i use this option durring live mode?
[22:00] <gunnar> mudtar: it's probably best to tink of it as a large tree, with each defined function acting like a branch.  You don't have to use all the branches.
[22:00] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: yes, but it's only if the live session doesn't boot up to desktop properly
[22:01] <Beast> hkrrsx: thanks will have a looksy
[22:01] <daftykins> ZeloZelos: the existing install can have it added easy
[22:01] <gunnar> Well I'm off for some ZzzZZz's
[22:01] <hkrrsx> Beast: Might I also point your research towards Snort IDS (intrusion detection system)
[22:01] <gunnar> Good night all
[22:01] <hkrrsx> gunnar: Night
[22:01] <mudtar> Thanks for all your help, gunnar. Good night.
[22:02] <Beast> hkrrsx: ok
[22:02] <ZeloZelos> daftykins, i already removed it in frustration, and let it idle for like a week till i could get back at it
[22:02] <mudtar> I'm having some trouble with wireless networking on my Lenovo ideapad Z710 (LENOVO_MT_20250). My wireless interface is an Intel Wireless 7260. While booting, I see the message "[   22.385290] ideapad_laptop: timeout in write_ec_cmd". (What is the name of the log/stream that this message is a part of, for future reference?) Then "Waiting for network configuration..." and finally "Booting system without full network configuration..." Up
[22:02] <mudtar> on logging in with Gnome 3, Gnome Network Manager yeilds "The system network services are not compatible with this verison." About five minutes later, connectivity resumes as normal and I am able to connect to my network. I am trying to sort out what's going on via dmesg, but I can't put all the pieces together myself.
[22:02] <ZeloZelos> BAH! i will bb in a few mins, i have to restart for updates on this machine
[22:03] <daftykins> mudtar: "dmesg" in a terminal will show those boot messages
[22:05] <mudtar> Thanks, daftykins. I've been picking it apart but not finding much that points me in any particular direction toward figuring out what's actually going on. It seems to just "try again" by connecting about 5 minutes in after boot, and it works fine.
[22:06] <daftykins> mudtar: i've heard of intel 7xxx wireless issues but don't know what they're about, no experience with gnome either sadly. are there any BIOS updates for your machine from Lenovo that speak of wireless fixes?
[22:07] <Layl> Alright, so to alleviate my fakeraid woes, I am about to resize my partition through gparted and create a new one through it, am I about to make a grave mistake by doing this?
[22:07] <sohrab> hi all, python doesn't start for one user. any idea how to fix that?
[22:08] <EriC^^> sohrab: doesn't start?
[22:08] <hkrrsx> !details | sohrab
[22:08] <daftykins> Layl: yep, glad you came back as there's something else to try - are you booted into a live session right now?
[22:08] <skinux> What is the application that tells us where the most disk usage is at?
[22:09] <Layl> daftykins: I have booted into a live session yea
[22:09] <Bashing-om> skinux: du -h .
[22:09] <kroq-gar78> skinux: 'baobab' I thinkis the one
[22:09] <sohrab> EriC^^: i'm having trouble with a user. it doesn't have the sidebar, or window borders, or window menus. the guest user doesn't have any of these problems. i looked at the system monitor and saw that the user with problems doesn't have a python process running.
[22:09] <EriC^^> skinux: du -sh /* 2>/dev/null
[22:09] <daftykins> Layl: if you open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install dmraid" then run the installer again, does the partitioner page change compared with your picture from earlier?
[22:09] <Layl> daftykins, that will take me a bit to do
[22:10] <mudtar> daftykins, there are, in fact, but it appears that they "correct Intel 3160-AC WLAN combo card SSID." not exactly sure what that means, but I have some ideas. Don't think it refers to my particular card. I was having a fine time with a different Ubuntu 14.04 install, but then I reinstalled and started having these problems.
[22:10] <Layl> what would have resizing in gparted have done?
[22:10] <EriC^^> sohrab: which process?
[22:10] <daftykins> Layl: i would have resized the Windows volume from inside Windows if i were you. run diskmgmt.msc
[22:10] <daftykins> mudtar: was your new install done with 14.04.2 media?
[22:11] <sohrab> EriC^^: i don't remember right now, but python3 or something
[22:11] <Layl> daftykins, I could still do this, but I do wonder what the effect of resizing from gparted would have been
[22:11] <mudtar> daftykins, it was done with a netinst disk. I guess that's called mini.iso in Ubuntuspeak.
[22:11] <sohrab> EriC^^: there is no python process at all for the user with problems. i remember always seeing one
[22:11] <mudtar> I don't believe they have incremental releases, do they?
[22:12] <EriC^^> sohrab: it's probably irrelevant
[22:12] <Layl> daftykins, dmraid is already installed
[22:13] <skinux> baobab works, however, there is another program I can't remember the name of. I prefer the other program because baobab is slow.
[22:13] <sohrab> EriC^^: i was screwing around with python before all this started. what else could it be?
[22:13] <daftykins> mudtar: ah yes, so 3.13 or 3.16 kernel? (uname -r)
[22:13] <Layl> daftykins, for additional information, this is what the screen in gparted looks like http://i.imgur.com/egVS1Sk.jpg
[22:14] <mudtar> daftykins, 3.13.0-49-generic
[22:14] <mudtar> but I believe I was using something equal or prior on the same machine just days ago.
[22:14] <mudtar> Not to say that a bug couldn't have arisen in a later version, of course.
[22:16] <EriC^^> sohrab: probably a .config issue or something
[22:16] <hkrrsx> skinux: http://alternativeto.net/software/baobab/?platform=linux
[22:16] <daftykins> mudtar: sounds good. yeah tough call that one, if you auto login i wonder if it behaves the same if you created another user account?
[22:16] <EriC^^> sohrab: can you get a terminal when you login?
[22:16] <EriC^^> with ctrl+alt+t
[22:17] <mudtar> daftykins, I don't auto login, if I understand ya correctly. I'm prompted for my password before I log in via Gnome 3.
[22:17] <mudtar> Thanks for your input.
[22:19] <sohrab> EriC^^: yes. i'm trying this out and will reboot. brb. -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears/76951#76951
[22:20] <daftykins> Layl: open a terminal and try running "dmraid -ay"
[22:20] <Layl> daftykins, I've already rebooted to windows now to resize it from there
[22:20] <EriC^^> sohrab: ok
[22:20] <daftykins> Layl: that's alright, make space for the entire Ubuntu install then pop back again :)
[22:20] <x-flash> yo.. is the piratebay down?
[22:20] <daftykins> x-flash: not appropriate here.
[22:21] <k1l_> x-flash: ask ##chat
[22:21] <Layl> daftykins: should I create a new partition for it or just leave it empty?
[22:21] <x-flash> not working in ubuntu at least... so is it ubuntu or is tpb down/ddos?
[22:21] <daftykins> Layl: just blank space in preparation
[22:22] <Layl> alright, doing that now
[22:22] <x-flash> maybe theres a lock in ubuntu to those kinds of web pages?
[22:23] <hkrrsx> !offtopic | x-flash
[22:27] <riqdiiz> $ubuntu
[22:28] <Layl> daftykins, alright I've done that
[22:29] <daftykins> Layl: the terminal "dmraid -ay" ?
[22:29] <Layl> that not yet, give me a moment to boot into the livecd again
[22:33] <cluelessperson> Hey guys, I need a way to get the complete list of domain names that have expired
[22:33] <cluelessperson> how do I do this quickly?
[22:34] <skinux> Is anyone by chance familiar with OpenCRX server?
[22:35] <daftykins> cluelessperson: that you own via a given registrar? that's not an Ubuntu support question
[22:35] <skinux> I installed it a few days ago to give it a try, but I couldn't access access it at all once starting it. So, I selected to stop the server and selected it's uninstall menu selection. However, none of the menu options seem to be doing anything and I can't find it via AppGrid nor using 'locate opencrx' command.
[22:36] <Layl> daftykins, it's saying it's already active
[22:36] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I have an unbuntu server.
[22:36] <daftykins> Layl: can you screenshot the installer partitioner window again?
[22:36] <cluelessperson> daftykins, I'd like to download a complete domain name list.
[22:36] <daftykins> cluelessperson: sorry, that's not something that can be done.
[22:37] <daftykins> and 100% is not on topic for this channel either way
[22:37] <cluelessperson> daftykins, Why not?  There are only 143 Million records or so
[22:37] <daftykins> are you purposefully timewasting here?
[22:38] <Layl> daftykins, just a moment, gnome running on the livecd is locking up making it a bit difficult
[22:39] <hkrrsx> skinux: How did you install it ?
[22:40] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to switch tabs on Guake with the keyboard?
[22:40] <viejotren> hello everyone
[22:40] <viejotren> I am trying to install pygame on ubuntu 14.10 but I have a dependence problem (python-numpy) it seems that package is not on 14.10 repos, do you know a way how to solve it?
[22:40] <hkrrsx> kokut: Check the Preferences under Keyboard Shortcuts, it'll tell you in there
[22:40] <daftykins> kokut: alt+number ?
[22:40] <hkrrsx> It's probably CTRL+Page Up/Down
[22:41] <kokut> hkrrsx: yea :) ty
[22:41] <hkrrsx> yw
[22:42] <skinux> hkrssx: Actually, I don't quite remember. I'm pretty sure I downloaded it without using a repository. However, I used Alacarte to figure out that the Uninstall menu link didn't have full path to the Uninstall.jar file, so that's why the uninstaller wasn't working.
[22:42] <Layl> daftykins really sorry for the delays, thanks a lot for helping, just having a bit of issues with freezes
[22:42] <guest-6R6H26> hhey
[22:43] <daftykins> Layl: hmm not a good sign, this from DVD or flash drive?
[22:43] <Layl> from DVD
[22:43] <hkrrsx> skinux: Have a look at this and if doesn't work, you'll likely need to contact OpenCRX support directly
[22:43] <hkrrsx> http://www.opencrx.org/opencrx/2.10/installerServer/installer_openCRX_server.pdf
[22:43] <daftykins> Layl: ah, invest in a flash drive :D the difference is like night and day
[22:43] <hkrrsx> skinux: Here's their support URL:  http://www.opencrx.org/support.htm
[22:43] <Layl> I was trying from a flash drive but it kernel panicked before reaching the installer
[22:44] <daftykins> Layl: could've been a corrupted download or bad copy
[22:44] <Layl> it was faster to burn to a dvd than to try and fix it
[22:45] <Layl> I assume the tool I was using to set up the usb just did something wrong
[22:45] <mjayk> possibly Layl should get in the habbit of checking iso hashs
[22:45] <Layl> would be really nice if browsers did that automatically
[22:45] <daftykins> depends what program you used, yeah
[22:45] <kokut> Anyone knows how to add tracks from the library to the playlist in cmus?
[22:46] <mjayk> Layl: I think if you torrent it some torrent programs will do that
[22:46] <Layl> oh yea I was using the torrent because it was adviced
[22:46] <Layl> but the exact same iso is running from the dvd fine
[22:47] <hkrrsx> kokut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAB5gOuoHA
[22:47] <mjayk> most give you the md5 in the info; yea sounds like you sorted it. Its just a "good" habbit to get into
[22:47] <daftykins> universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com is a handy one for creating flash drives from Windows
[22:47] <mjayk> in my opinion :)
[22:47] <hkrrsx> That guy does a great job at explaining the entire CMUS terminal app
[22:48] <Layl> yea I should for bigger files, I just am used to almost never having problems with downloads
[22:48] <sohrab> is ther ea way to get a log of all the times i've restarted my computer in the last week?
[22:49] <daftykins> sohrab: i wouldn't count on it
[22:49] <riqdiiz> Can I install Ubuntu on a ide drive  using a different machine and move it later and work fine?
[22:50] <Layl> daftykins, I have a new option in the part right before that screen
[22:50] <sohrab> daftykins: 'last' worked
[22:50] <Layl> to install it along side the other partitions
[22:50] <mjayk> riqdiiz: problems can occur but it should work
[22:51] <daftykins> sohrab: sorry my mistake!
[22:51] <sohrab> daftykins: np
[22:52] <riqdiiz> Mjayk I'll let you know if it works. Thanks.
[22:52] <daftykins> Layl: mmm i'd still go to manual and see how the disk appears
[22:53] <Layl> daftykins, in manual it shows the same thing except now with "free space" added to the list
[22:53] <daftykins> Layl: so you still see free space twice huh?
[22:53] <kokut> hkrrsx: ty :)
[22:54] <Layl> daftykins, no I see free space once
[22:54] <Layl> there was no free space initially
[22:54] <hkrrsx> kokut: yw
[22:54] <daftykins> Layl: pic?
[22:54] <Layl> hold on, gotta take a pic from my phone
[22:55] <Layl> daftykins: sorry for the a bit blurry picture but should be readable enough http://i.imgur.com/rZSPcwe.jpg
[22:56] <daftykins> alt-print-screen and upload is always good too ;)
[22:56] <Layl> daftykins: for reference this was the original picture http://i.imgur.com/930ErYI.jpg
[22:56] <daftykins> Layl: yeah there is a second one, it's just out of view - there's a scroll bar there
[22:56] <Layl> can't alt-print-screen in an OS setup can I?
[22:57] <daftykins> sure can
[22:57] <Starthunder> So I can set the geometry of a gnome-terminal window with the --geometry option. Is there a way to basically say “maximize the window”?
[22:57] <Layl> daftykins, the part not visible because of the scroll bar is exactly the same as before except for the size
[22:57] <daftykins> hmm i don't know whether it's bad or not that the two disks are seen separately still
[22:57] <Layl> those aren't disks though
[22:58] <Layl> they're partitions
[22:58] <Layl> right?
[22:58] <daftykins> well they're volumes with partitions in
[22:58] <daftykins> semantics ;D
[22:58] <Layl> I know windows 8 installs 2 partitions by default, one for restore, one for the actual stuff
[22:58] <daftykins> well, maybe in non-EFI mode yes
[22:58] <Layl> my motherboard doesn't support EFI iirc
[22:59] <Layl> I recall recently checking in the bios for it
[22:59] <Layl> since I was trying out writing a kernel and I wanted to know if EFI was an option
[22:59] <daftykins> if you don't care about the data you could just try and install to the free space. i don't know what's going to happen though
[22:59] <daftykins> it's possible that desktop doesn't support installing to dmraid
[23:00] <Layl> could I just select the option "install alongside" then?
[23:00] <Layl> on the screen before
[23:00] <daftykins> you can try. pretty sure here be dragons
[23:00] <Layl> I've got a friend who basically says he just resized and it worked fine when he installed his favorite flavor of linux and he has fakeraid as well
[23:01] <Layl> so I think it should work
[23:01] <Layl> but yea, dragons
[23:01] <daftykins> are you using RAID-0 or 1?
[23:02] <Layl> RAID-0 iirc
[23:02] <Layl> the one that's supposed to make things faster
[23:02] <Layl> because I like to live on the dangerous end of life
[23:02] <daftykins> with two horrible mechanical disks? ugh.
[23:02] <Layl> I was slightly less informed back when I got this PC
[23:03] <Layl> I still considered C++ an okay language to work in back then
[23:05] <Starthunder> Can I log in over SSH and kick off a gnome-terminal as another user? (I have full `sudo` permission on the machine.)
[23:06] <mjayk> Starthunder: kill the process ?
[23:06] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: yes, you can
[23:06] <Starthunder> Start, I mean. Sorry. XD
[23:07] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: 1.) ssh -X <IP_address>   then  2.) su <username> gnome-terminal
[23:07] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: Hopefully, that'll bring a gnome-terminal window to your screen due to X-forwarding
[23:07] <Starthunder> X forwarding?
[23:07] <hkrrsx> However, it'll be slow
[23:08] <Starthunder> No, I mean…I want the process and window to appear on the remote machine.
[23:08] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: why do you want to kick off gnome terminal when ssh gives you a shell?
[23:08] <zerowaitstate> Starthunder: ah
[23:08] <hkrrsx> No.
[23:08] <zerowaitstate> hkrrsx: actually, he can but the X display has to be set manually I think
[23:08] <Starthunder> Uhh…to freak out someone who's using my computer and doesn't know what a command line is? XD
[23:09] <daftykins> Starthunder: *sigh*
[23:09] <hkrrsx> zerowaitstate: 10 out of 10 people are going to have no need for that though
[23:10] <Layl> I'll sure be happy once I've got this all set up and the first step in any build won't be "install mingw"
[23:10] <daftykins> you could've VM'd Linux too ;)
[23:11] <hkrrsx> Starthunder: If you want to properly mess with someone, learn and install i3 window manager .... no one (probably yourself included) will ever want to touch that machine again
[23:11] <daftykins> Layl: i think if i were you i'd have ditched RAID and used one disk per OS
[23:11] <hkrrsx> :)
[23:11] <Layl> yea but HyperV's a pain
[23:11] <Layl> it keeps re-enabling itself
[23:11] <daftykins> HyperV? no forget Microsoft VMing
[23:11] <Layl> trashing all over virtualbox
[23:11] <daftykins> virtualbox/vmware/anything but
[23:11] <Layl> yea, I use virtualbox, but hyperv keeps re-enabling itself and virtualbox can't run with that on
[23:12] <daftykins> i don't even know why you'd have two techs at once :P
[23:12] <Layl> daftykins, would it be possible to set up one disk per OS without completely trashing my windows install
[23:13] <Starthunder> I tried starting a shell as that user with `sudo -iu $username` and then doing `DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal ...`
[23:13] <Layl> daftykins, visual studio installs and enables hyperv, it's needed for some stuff
[23:13] <Layl> mainly widows 8 and windows phone apps
[23:13] <daftykins> Layl: not without a lot of work probably
[23:13] <daftykins> ah ok. i don't do dev so didn't know VS did that
[23:13] <daftykins> i'd be surprised if it can't be disabled
[23:14] <Layl> it can be disabled but any update re-enables it
[23:14] <Layl> and you need to restart to disable it so
[23:14] <Layl> it's quite annoyin
[23:14] <daftykins> ho-hum
[23:14] <Layl> I'm moving away from VS though now that I'm switching to rust as my primary language instead of C#/F#
[23:16] <zerowaitstate> Layl: rust and erlang are very similar
[23:16] <daftykins> off topic people
[23:16] <zerowaitstate> quite
[23:17] <Layl> now's the moment of truth, will it boot
[23:17] <daftykins> i read a bit more of the fakeRAID page and i'm not entirely convinced :)
[23:17] <Layl> I'm not either, next time I'll just get an SSD
[23:18] <Layl> well windows sure still starts
[23:18] <Layl> it doesn't give me the grub screen though
[23:18] <samthewildone> well well well... dns problems with domain
[23:19]  * samthewildone eats a snickers bar.
[23:19] <daftykins> Layl: likely the device GRUB is installed to needs to be different
[23:19] <hkrrsx> !details | samthewildone
[23:19] <daftykins> i don't think 'install alongside' is clever enough to know which
[23:19] <samthewildone> opps! I though this was offtopic
[23:19] <samthewildone> hkrrsx, my bad
[23:19] <Layl> daftykins, seems so yea
[23:19] <hkrrsx> samthewildone: It's all good
[23:20] <Layl> is there a magic key that might bring up grub
[23:21] <daftykins> Layl: i'd go into live again, select manual partitioning and try again changing where GRUB is installed to
[23:21] <daftykins> i.e. not "/dev/sda"
[23:22] <Layl> I'll try that
[23:22] <Layl> at least we now know it doesn't break windows
[23:22] <Layl> which is quite a feat
[23:22] <daftykins> :D
[23:23] <Layl> daftykins: should I make it install over the restore partition windows uses?
[23:23] <Layl> or over something else
[23:24] <Layl> or perhaps I could fix it by changing the master boot record which I had to do before on my laptop
[23:24] <daftykins> depends what the options in the dropdown list are really
[23:25] <Layl> ah~ there's nothing quite like the 1:30AM boot problems
[23:29] <Layl> daftykins, according to my raid status screen I'm using RAID-1, in which case I think I can just disable raid and have 2 separate drives again without data loss
[23:29] <daftykins> hmm i think it'd still be awkward
[23:29] <Layl> I really thought I was using RAID0 but I doubt that screen is wrong
[23:29] <daftykins> i know 7 at least BSODs when you change from SATA mode RAID to normal
[23:30] <zerowaitstate> Layl: you are probably forgetting about the metadata created on the volume
[23:30] <siwica> As I am fairly new to haskell I am looking for an elegant way to count the occurences of numbers in a list of intergers. E.g. both [2,2,3,5,5,5] and [5,5,3,2,2,5] should become [2,1,3]
[23:30] <zerowaitstate> siwica: #haskell
[23:30] <siwica> ah, sorry :P
[23:31] <siwica> wrong buffer
[23:31] <Layl> daftykins, i'm back at the manual install screen, what should I be picking from the list for the boot loader?
[23:35] <daftykins> Layl: what are the choices?
[23:35] <wheresmypaaants> Hi all! I recently installed Windows 7 alongside my Ubuntu 14.10 (x64) install. Despite me crawling multiple internet forums, my keyboard and mouse freezes during the Windows 7 boot. Here is the bootup process and what happens: GRUB - Keyboard Responsive - Windows selected - Keyboard responsive - During initial boot, the keyboard & mouse shut off and do not come back on - Ubuntu install works fine with keyboards
[23:35] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: if you've any experience with installing ubuntu on an intel fakeRAID beside an existing Windows OS, feel free to take over :)
[23:35] <wheresmypaaants> Just not the W7
[23:35] <Layl> daftykins, a whole bunch of /dev/mapper/stuff and /dev/sda
[23:37] <jonne> wheresmypaaants, what happens if you plug them out and in again after windows has started?
[23:37] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: No lights or responsiveness
[23:37] <wheresmypaaants> (Still dead)
[23:37] <jonne> that's weird
[23:38] <wheresmypaaants> mhm
[23:38] <wheresmypaaants> At one point, the keyboard loaded, but not the mouse
[23:38] <Layl> daftykins, assuming I understand what is happening I should probably install to the one called "Volume01" and not the ones with "p0#" after them
[23:39] <Layl> does that sound reasonable
[23:39] <hkrrsx> brb, dinner time
[23:39] <daftykins> lets remind ourselves of the link
[23:40] <daftykins> !raid
[23:40] <daftykins> (last one)
[23:40] <Nokaji> as ubuntu keeps logs on every file downloaded from the net, does it also keep a total uploads and downloads in Gbytes per day/month?
[23:41] <daftykins> Layl: hmm wouldn't hurt to try, i'd probably be trying p01
[23:42] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Any ideas?
[23:42] <Layl> p01's the recovery thing for windows so I don't think that's gonna be having any master boot records
[23:42] <jonne> nah, haven't run windows in ages
[23:42] <wheresmypaaants> :(
[23:42] <wheresmypaaants> Just wanna play GTAV PC :P
[23:42] <jonne> but i'm assuming it comes with usb drivers for a standard mouse
[23:42] <daftykins> Layl: ah i see what you mean now, reloaded the links as i'd closed them... yeah /dev/mapper/isw...Volume01
[23:42] <jonne> haha
[23:43] <Layl> daftykins, should I in this screen be creating a new partition for the ubuntu install or just select the empty space?
[23:43] <jonne> only thing windows is still good for
[23:43] <wheresmypaaants> jonne: Would you recommend  me using a mouse that hasn't been plugged in to that computer yet?
[23:43] <daftykins> Layl: create an ext4 one for / and then a swap one, yeah
[23:44] <jonne> if you have one lying around, yeah
[23:44] <wheresmypaaants> I've got multiple :P
[23:44] <Layl> how much space should I keep free for the swap one?
[23:44] <jonne> although i think the whole usb subsystem is not starting up for some reason
[23:44] <jonne> maybe it's a powersaving thing?
[23:44] <daftykins> Layl: how much system RAM?
[23:44] <Layl> 16Gb
[23:44] <jonne> tried mucking around with those settings in your BIOS?
[23:44] <wheresmypaaants> Well, no, it starts up for some time - During the initial W7 boot everything responds, but when the login screen pops up it all cuts out
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> And yes I have
[23:45] <jonne> beats me, man
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> (But my BIOS settings are rather limited...)
[23:45] <jonne> don't think it has to do with grub
[23:45] <Layl> would it be alright to create the swap first so I don't have to carefully calculate how much space I need to leave for it
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> Neither do I
[23:45] <wheresmypaaants> I'll try the secondary mouse
[23:46] <daftykins> Layl: hmm well assuming you never sleep or hibernate, i'd say 4GB would be plenty. so just click +, then minus 4096 from it
[23:46] <daftykins> Layl: actually reading the guide page more... haha...
[23:47] <Layl> daftykins, I'm assuming the ext4 one has to be set to primary and not logical
[23:47] <daftykins> Layl: it seems to suggest creating them with gparted
[23:47] <daftykins> so maybe quit the installer and run gparted, then create them there
[23:47] <Layl> alrightey
[23:48] <Layl> I'll be so happy when I've got my new laptop and I'll be able to install ubuntu on it by just wiping the pre-installed windows
[23:49] <daftykins> and wrestling with EFI
[23:49] <pcnate> When I installed ubuntu 14 the other day, I chose to create the swap first. Just chose to create it at the end, then I used the rest of the space for /
[23:50] <daftykins> pcnate: yeah that's true, you can probably pick start and end positions
[23:50] <pcnate> Also, on that not. Is it still recommended to leave 7% unallocated on an SSD?
[23:50] <Layl> oh great, my keyboard stopped working on the machine
[23:50] <pcnate> *on that note
[23:51] <daftykins> pcnate: totally down to the given drive, some have spare area you never get to see - others expose the whole NAND
[23:51] <pcnate> I will assume this one does not have spare
[23:51] <Layl> daftykins, I could as well just reformat the existing ext4 and swap partitions
[23:52] <Layl> or would it be better to just re-create them
[23:54] <daftykins> Layl: mmm if they appear ok, that's fine - you just need to set the installer to make use of them
[23:54] <Layl> the swap's 16gb so I guess I'll get to enjoy hibernate
[23:55] <daftykins> if it works :P
[23:55] <Layl> what could possibly go wrong
[23:57] <Layl> daftykins: just a quick sanity check this is what it looks like right now http://i.imgur.com/aFYkzsZ.jpg
[23:59] <velho> Evening
[23:59] <Layl> after this works I am getting my 5 hours of sleep


[10:15] <apw> tseliot, we have a bcmwl sru fix outstanding in xenial/yakkety which is causing a real problem for the point release
[10:15] <apw> tseliot, its been in the queue for 62 days
[10:18] <tseliot> apw: apparently, nobody tested that
[10:19] <tseliot> and I don't own a Cisco 3800
[10:19] <apw> tseliot, i am right in saying that the hwe kernel yakkety's kernel requires it
[10:19] <apw> or the base version that is, without the ack fix at least (assuming it is a fix even)
[10:20] <apw> and we are spinning ISOs like now ...
[10:21] <tseliot> looking at the changelog, that's a nobrainer. I had completely forgotten about it
[10:21] <tseliot> I can test that here, and then maybe tjaalton can approve it
[10:26] <tseliot> apw: it turns out I have used that release on my laptop for a couple of months with zero problems :)
[10:28] <tseliot> tjaalton: I have just added a comment, please approve LP: #1647036 in -proposed
[10:29] <tjaalton> tseliot: mark it verified
[10:29] <tseliot> tjaalton: done
[10:30] <infinity> tseliot: Did you verify it builds and inserts on both 4.4 and 4.8?
[10:30] <infinity> (builds, inserts, and works, ideally)
[10:31] <tseliot> infinity: I use it on 4.4. Let me check 4.8
[10:32] <infinity> tseliot: With uploads to trusty, xenial, and yakkety, one can't just say "yeah, I use this driver" and v-done for all three.
[10:32] <infinity> tseliot: Needs to be tested on trusty (with 3.13 and 4.4), xenial (with 4.4 and 4.8) and yakkety (with 4.8), but for Right Now, xenial is what's blocking me.
[10:32] <tseliot> infinity: actually, I take back what I said, as I use that in Zesty too
[10:33] <tseliot> it will work on yakkety for sure, but let me double-check
[10:33] <infinity> tseliot: xenial (with both kernels) is today's immediate concern.
[10:34] <infinity> tseliot: We can leave it unverified on trusty and yakkety while that gets sorted, but xenial is point releasy right now.
[10:34] <tseliot> infinity: ok, let me test the backported kernel on xenial
[10:35] <infinity> tseliot: Enable proposed and grab linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[10:35] <infinity> (It'll be in updates shortly, but don't wait for me to do that)
[10:37] <tseliot> ok
[10:52] <tseliot> infinity: it works well. I have added a comment in the bug report
[10:53] <tseliot> yakkety will be exactly the same
[10:56] <infinity> tseliot: Ta.
[10:56] <infinity> tseliot: When you get around to explicitly testing trusty and yakkety, update the bug, but I'm happy releasing xenial right now.
[10:59] <tseliot> infinity: ok
[19:57] <javier4> Hi all. I'm trying to port ubuntu touch on android device. The system boots, but i have a lot of problems. The log shows a bunch of these erros.
[19:57] <javier4> E/NetlinkListener( 1226): recvmsg failed (I/O error)
[19:57] <javier4> I don't get it on android, do you think they could be due to defconfig modifications?
[19:58] <javier4> The two different pids of the errors refer to vold and netd.