[07:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> intok: that's a udev automatically generated node. Not the mountpoint. put the contents of /etc/mtab into a pastebin and link it to me and Semitones
[07:33] <intok> Semitones  sudo mount /dev/sdc1
[07:33] <intok> mount: can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:33] <brjann> gavintlgold: okay, i'm looking at a bug report right now describing an issue with the graphics driver for that family of cards
[07:33] <Semitones> sorry about that
[07:33] <brjann> gavintlgold: let me see what the most recent recommendation is
[07:33] <SolarisBoy> i think 'sudo grep -i network /var/log/messages' should work for you and if there is valid output we can paste it sqwertle
[07:33] <Zenker> pfifo you are a great help and i look forward to helping you someday, it prolly wont have 2 do with ubuntu/linux but anyhow thank you for all your help, its time for me 2 go 2 bed
[07:33] <intok> Semitones  sudo mount /dev/sdc1
[07:33] <intok> mount: can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:33] <sambagirl> anyone running patientos in hardy? or ubuntu in general?
[07:33] <Semitones> intok, no, just type "mount"
[07:34] <pfifo> Zenker, sweet dreams
[07:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: enable all the repositories and then sudo apt-get update and then suro apt-get install epsxe
[07:34] <sambagirl> i am having trouble trying to enable nx client to run
[07:34] <gavintlgold> brjann, it seems that it's an unresolvable bug from my quick research in the past few minutes :-/ A driver bug that they can't/don't want to fix since the target is netbooks without this driver
[07:34] <Semitones> intok, the command "mount" all by itself lists the mounted devices
[07:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> intok: put /etc/mtab into a pastebin. This is too vague for us to really help.
[07:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> Semitones: in fstab.
[07:34] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: alright, slow down a bit please, I still ahven't run the iwevent command yet
[07:35] <brjann> gavintlgold: not necessarily. in this bug report there are a number of people who've reported success with a PPA version of the intel driver
[07:35] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: we are going log messages first then iwevent
[07:35] <intok> Semitones and SpaceGhostC2C thanks, it mounted, you still want the fstab though?
[07:35] <irvken> No resume image, boots to initramfs prompt, any one help
[07:35] <gavintlgold> brjann, ah, can you send me the link to the launchpad bug so I can try that? (I have used ppa's before, i could probably take it from there)
[07:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> intok: not really if your issue is solved.
[07:35] <brjann> gavintlgold: sure thing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nubuntu/+source/netbook-launcher/+bug/368394
[07:35] <Semitones> intok, I'm curious, how did you fix it?
[07:35] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I have copied the grep output.
[07:35] <supermatt1000> SpaceGhostC2C how do i enable all repositories?
[07:36] <gavintlgold> thanks for the help, brjann
[07:36] <sambagirl> how do i enable port 22?
[07:36] <SolarisBoy> !paste
[07:36] <brjann> gavintlgold: no problem, good luck :)
[07:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: uncommenting the needed lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <root___> ~
[07:36] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: you can paste that to the link above and follow the directions to paste it for us to see
[07:36] <intok> Semitones dunno, trying to mount it again suddenly mounted it warning, I'm still a linux n00b
[07:36] <Semitones> supermatt1000, try system>administration>software sources
[07:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: use a pipe to say who it's for, or better yet use a redirect.
[07:37] <Semitones> intok, that's ok, :) your terminal-fu will improve with time
[07:37] <sambagirl> it says nx service not available or nx access was disabled on host.
[07:37] <SolarisBoy> sure SpaceGhostC2C ill try and do that in the future
[07:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: thanks. Just helps with context, ya know?
[07:37] <SolarisBoy> yes i can understand that
[07:37] <supermatt1000> SpaceGhostC2C now what
[07:37] <Monnikje> bye all
[07:37] <researcher1> can Ubuntu server be uninstalled
[07:37] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/394529/
[07:37] <Semitones> supermatt1000, but whatever you do, keep away from the "proposed" section of updates. they're for testing only
[07:37] <Edwardo> Semitones
[07:37] <Edwardo> 2010-03-12 23:35:47,219 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: run this: sudo apt-get update
[07:38] <gavintlgold> brjann, I'll just pop back in here after a restart to let you know if that worked
[07:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: run this next: sudo apt-get install epsxe
[07:38] <hayden> :'(
[07:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> Edwardo: should be working.
[07:38] <Semitones> Edwardo, a little context please? I'm not an expert on wifi or anything :)
[07:38] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: hmm
[07:38] <Edwardo> Context?
[07:38] <Edwardo> I don't know..
[07:38] <Edwardo> I just want this to work this is so stupid
[07:38] <Semitones> Edwardo, where did you see the message for one thing
[07:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> Edwardo: what happened exactly?
[07:39] <Semitones> we can't read minds (although we try)
[07:39] <Edwardo> when i try to use hardwarve drivers to install the broadcom (it shows up now)
[07:39] <Edwardo> it says
[07:39] <Edwardo> "failed. information at /var/log/jockey.log"
[07:39] <Edwardo> i went to jockey.log and copypasta'd that
[07:39] <Semitones> hmm
[07:39] <Edwardo> but jockey.log is like 10k lines long, i pasted 1 line
[07:40] <supermatt1000> SpaceGhostC2C it says can not find package epsxe
[07:40] <Semitones> Edwardo, try googling relating to that line -- someone else may have had the same problem, and already found a fix
[07:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> Edwardo: it might've gotten blacklisted for your system, but can you confirm if wireless is working?
[07:40] <hayden> how do i decide which drivers get installed while installing ubuntu? (i probably don't know what im talking about)
[07:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: sudo apt-cache search playstation
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: can you revert the setting that made you unable to connect at all (go back to dhcp) and then before you try to connect again,, you can open a text console (KDE/Gnome Menu  >Accessories > terminal) you can type iwevent into that screen that will open and should show some information as to whats happening as you connect
[07:40] <Edwardo> SpaceGhostC2C: i can't
[07:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> hayden: use gksudo jockey-gtk
[07:40] <Semitones> SpaceGhostC2C, why would the broadcom drivers be blacklisted?
[07:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> Semitones: look. It says it is.
[07:41] <gavintlgold> brjann, well unfortunately I'm still in the same boat. I'll continue to look through that bug report to see if there are any more ideas
[07:41] <Semitones> SpaceGhostC2C, no, I see that it is, I'm just saying why would the system do that
[07:41] <hayden> SpaceGhostC2C: sorry, but i have no idea what that is
[07:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> Semitones: no idea
[07:41] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: Yes, I can :)
[07:41] <supermatt1000> SpaceGhostC2C it just came up with the psx emulator thats in the software center
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: cool =>
[07:42] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: Should I wait for it to surrender, or should I stop the monotony?
[07:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> hayden: press ALT+F2 then type gksudo jockey-gtk but only after you've booted into ubuntu. Not in the installer.
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: stop whatever its doing as its not working anyway i guess =)
[07:42] <brjann> gavintlgold: bummer, sorry to hear that. at the very worst you could try the lucid beta, since they mention that problem should be fixed there
[07:42] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: It stopped of its own, let me paste the results. One moment
[07:43] <Semitones> because if b43 and b43legacy drivers are the correct drivers for his card, wireless might already be working. if not, he could try unblacklisting bcm43xx maybe
[07:43] <hayden> SpaceGhostC2C: ok, so there is nothing that i forgot to do before the installation that caused that problem
[07:43] <gavintlgold> brjann, hold up, one of the packages may have not upgraded for some reason
[07:43] <gavintlgold> brjann, gonna check again ;)
[07:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: hayden shouldn't be.
[07:43] <brjann> gavintlgold: hehe, okay :)
[07:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: http://www.epsxe.com/download.php
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> ok
[07:44] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/394534/
[07:46] <afrodeity> anyone around?
[07:46] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: ok not much there other than not connecting at all however it looks that the disconnection is not IP based as in its not successfully connecting to a wireless network, had you tried to power cycle the router or any other measure like this yet?
[07:46] <afrodeity> problem - metacity-common post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[07:46] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I have not tried anything of the sort yet. I can do that momentariliy though. I'll be back in a moment.
[07:47] <gwinbee> how do I check if wget is connecting via a proxy or not?
[07:47] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: one second. Do you see other networks that yours?
[07:47] <gwinbee> i've added the proxy to /etc/environment, but I'd like to be sure it actually is working.
[07:48] <pfifo> gwinbee, try downloading one of those "Whats my IP Address" sites with wget and look at the page it fetches
[07:48] <gwinbee> k
[07:49] <Secularjoe> Anyone have a second to help me figure out whats going on with my trac server?
[07:50] <gavintlgold> brjann, heh, well input works now but the whole menu is completely garbled beyond belief. I blame a *different* bug that'll likely be fixed soon in a near release
[07:50] <gwinbee> pfifo: yep, it isn't working right. thanks.
[07:50] <gavintlgold> brjann, I guess you could call it progress.
[07:51] <brjann> gavintlgold: haha, baby steps :) sorry it wasn't a one-click fix, though
[07:51] <pfifo> gwinbee, i beleive running it like this is what you want `HTTP_PROXY=<IP_ADDRESS> wget 'http://www.google.com'`
[07:51] <harisund> Does anyone know how apt-get auto remove works? I want it to --purge, not just remove .. does autoremove do this? There are tons of packages that autormeove says can be removed, but I want them purged, not like some Windows registry thing
[07:51] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I'm assuming you didn't catch any of my messages as it seems I was disconnected, however a factory default restoration has allowed my laptop to connect quite satisfactorily. I'm hoping it won't decide to sleep after each connection though.
[07:51] <gavintlgold> brjann, I probably caught the edgers repo on a bad day. Would be good if I could find a relatively stable deb that was *less* up to date
[07:52] <gwinbee> pfifo: is there a way to set wget to always use the proxy by default?
[07:52] <gwinbee> (and apt-get and aptitude, ideally)
[07:52] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: i suspected something may have been wrong on the router, wow that was fast for a factory reset ;>
[07:52] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: I'm a ninja
[07:52] <pfifo> gwinbee, there is also an option in wget to --http-proxy'<IP_ADDRESS>, and there is also /etc/wget.conf
[07:52] <SolarisBoy> lol
[07:53] <brjann> gavintlgold: looks like that's that the ubuntu-x-swat ppa does. ever use ppa-purge?
[07:53] <Edwardo> hypa7ia:
[07:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge-autoremoved
[07:53] <hypa7ia> Edwardo: pastebin me the contents of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:53] <harisund> SpaceGhostC2C: sweet man thanks so much
[07:53] <gwinbee> pfifo: I see. and what exactly should i put in wget.conf to define the proxy and have it permanently be on?
[07:53] <gavintlgold> brjann, nope
[07:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: anytime friend.
[07:53] <sqwertle> Why is all traffic related to lynx directed to #ubuntu+1, there doesn't seem to be an incredible gap between the help requested for it, and the help provided by this channel.
[07:53] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: you should take a look at iwevent and logs on a successful run it helps you get a baseline of what is right.. so next time you look at logs you may be more keen to whats wrong ;>
[07:53] <harisund> SpaceGhostC2C: man page of apt-get doesn't say it? Where did you find that from?
[07:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: I knew it.
[07:54] <pfifo> gwinbee, youll have to ask google or man wget, I dont know off the top of my head
[07:54] <gwinbee> pfifo: k. thanks for your help.
[07:54] <sqwertle> SolarisBoy: Will do. I'm still rather new to Linux, but so far my problems have resulted in nothing but learning.
[07:54] <SolarisBoy> sqwertle: indeed
[07:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: you'd need a invitation to my mind, and even *i* don't get one most of the time. Glad I could help though.
[07:54] <theadmin> SpaceGhostC2C: Sometimes it's better to use info then man, for akward reasons
[07:54] <harisund> SpaceGhostC2C: E: Command line option --purge-autoremoved is not understood
[07:54] <brjann> gavintlgold: it's a nice utility for completely ridding your system of a PPA and reverting back to the lastest packages from the official repositories: http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[07:54] <hypa7ia> Edwardo: are you still there?
[07:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: let me see if I can re-locate the correct command.
[07:55] <Semitones> sqwertle, ideally, people who install lucid lynx should be somewhat familliar with ubuntu, as it's not stable yet, and should know when to ask in here and when to ask in +1
[07:55] <Edwardo> hypa7ia: http://dpaste.com/171456/
[07:55] <brjann> gavintlgold: might be worth a shot to purge xorg-edgers and try ubuntu-x-swat instead?
[07:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> hypa7ia: I might suggest asking to pm him. He didn't seem to like the traffic of #ubuntu.
[07:55] <gavintlgold> brjann, i'm on it :) thanks
[07:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> hypa7ia: asking first thought :P
[07:55] <SolarisBoy> brjann: is it safe?
[07:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> harisund: one second, let me look. one sec.
[07:55] <theadmin> SpaceGhostC2C: Who doesn't seem to like the traffic? o_O
[07:55] <askhader> SolarisBoy: Safer than sex
[07:56] <askhader> SolarisBoy: though lovers lost, love shall not
[07:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> theadmin: doesn't matter.
[07:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ot | askhader
[07:56] <hypa7ia> Edwardo: hmm, i didn't realize there ere more files in there.  also, have you tried the STA driver as well?
[07:56] <blbrown> I saw a cool tool on reddit that would show memory usage, etc on the desktop.  Anyone seen this before.
[07:56] <Edwardo> the what ?
[07:56] <SolarisBoy> askhader: nice
[07:56] <askhader> SpaceGhostC2C: Stay on topic please
[07:56] <Semitones> I didn't like the traffic when I was new. Friggin scary. takes some getting used to
[07:56] <Edwardo> woh woh woh
[07:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> askhader: you too :)
[07:56] <Edwardo> hypa7ia, the STA driver is the one i'm trying to install
[07:56] <brjann> SolarisBoy: ppa-purge? i believe so, i've used it a few dozen times. i imagine things could get squirrely if you killed it mid-purge
[07:56] <theadmin> SpaceGhostC2C: sabdfl? :/ Whatever anyway
[07:56] <Edwardo> when i get the eror
[07:56] <sqwertle> Semitones: While that would be expected, there are still quite a few users who are using Lynx that are not entirely familiar with Ubuntu. The majority of the questions they are asking are questions that could be resolved the same way (and can occur) on both 9.10 and 10.04. Wouldn't directing all Lynx traffic to #Ubuntu+1 add stress to those that can't get help here?
[07:56] <askhader> Edwardo: sudo-apt get install broadcom-sta
[07:56] <sun> waaron,
[07:57] <hypa7ia> Edwardo: oh, i thought you were trying to install b43
[07:57] <SolarisBoy> brjann: yea thats always though =), i think ill install it
[07:57] <sun> could you tell me how to use 'man' command to find help infomation?
[07:57] <Edwardo> B43 = already installed
[07:57] <Edwardo> but i still can't wifi connect
[07:57] <SolarisBoy> sun: man <command>
[07:57] <askhader> Edwardo: That's your first probem
[07:57] <askhader> problem
[07:57] <harisund> Any luck SpaceGhostC2C ? It's probably something like --purge-autoremoved but not exactly that
[07:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> sqwertle: do you mean Linux? Lynx is a CLI web browser.
[07:57] <askhader> b42 conflicts with broadcom-sta
[07:57] <afrodeity> Is there a way to list ppa and to clean up redundancies?
[07:57] <askhader> b43, rather
[07:58] <Edwardo> what?
[07:58] <sqwertle> SpaceGhostC2C: Lucid Lynx*
[07:58] <Edwardo> ..oh my lord..
[07:58] <Edwardo> SO what am i supposed to do?
[07:58] <brjann> SolarisBoy: it's a nice utility, saves a lot of hunting for the right package to downgrade to, especially if it's a big ppa (like the bleeding-edge ifuse one)
[07:58] <askhader> Edwardo: Depends what you are trying to achieve.
[07:58] <Edwardo> wifi connectivity
[07:58] <SolarisBoy> sun: the document will open in youy systems pager (less or more) you can use up,down,right,left to scroll the text and you can type 'q' to quit
[07:58] <askhader> Edwardo: Discover the identity of your wireless card first.
[07:58] <hypa7ia> Edwardo: have a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1347483
[07:58] <SolarisBoy> brjann: yep thats why im like thats pretty cool =)
[07:58] <Semitones> sqwertle, I think so -- general questions should still be asked here, but a lot of times things are broken in lucid that would ordinarily work, and it's hard to sort out which is which. But yes, I don't think people should be automatically forwarded
[07:58] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Hm, so man uses less? Interesting.
[07:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> sqwertle: ah. I'll have to watch for that.
[07:58] <hypa7ia> askhader: you're a bit late to the game here.  Edwardo is using a broadcom 4312
[07:59] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: man uses what your $PAGER is set to on your system
[07:59] <sun> SolarisBoy, thanks!!
[07:59] <askhader> hypa7ia: There are three revisions of that card.
[07:59] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Let me try to set that to more...
[07:59] <askhader> One of which is not supported by the driver that supports the other two
[07:59] <sqwertle> Semitones: Ah, ok. I wasn't sure I was the only one thinking that.
[07:59] <hypa7ia> askhader: oh, good to know
[07:59] <askhader> anyhow
[07:59] <askhader> starcraft time
[08:00] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Set that to "more", it still uses less it seems
[08:00] <sqwertle> Is there a common place to document errors/fixes for specific hardware/distros that is easily accessible to anyone searching?
[08:00] <askhader> bugzilla
[08:00] <askhader> for the respective distro/hardware/project
[08:00] <sqwertle> askhader: thanks.
[08:00] <hypa7ia> or launchpad for ubuntu :)
[08:00] <Semitones> askhader, another piece to the puzzle is Edwardo's card worked in the live cd where (presumably) restricted drivers were enabled
[08:01] <Semitones> since you seem to know a bit about broadcom
[08:01] <askhader> Semitones: Ubuntu should offer broadcom-sta in the drivers utility by default.
[08:01] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: ubuntu us weird sometimes with things like that
[08:01] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: read this though 'man 1 intro'
[08:01] <askhader> If it doesn't the official website has very easy to follow instructions
[08:02] <askhader> As in, the official broadcom-sta page
[08:02] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Read that already, someday
[08:02] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: where did you set it at?
[08:02] <hypa7ia> Edwardo: i need to sleep now, but it seems that other folks in here are on the case.  if you're still fighting it tomorrow, feel free to /msg me and i'll see if i can help
[08:02] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: ran that in gnome-terminal: "let PAGER='more'"
[08:02] <rfa_> is alternate dvd same as live cd?
[08:02]  * askhader goes to play starcraft
[08:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> rfa_: no
[08:02] <askhader> Edwardo: google: broadcom-sta
[08:02] <hypa7ia> Edwardo: also, if you end up not being able to get it working let me know and i can recommend a cheap USB wifi card that will work for sure :)
[08:03] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: try export PAGER=more
[08:03] <rfa_> SpaceGhostC2C so i can't try system without installing it?
[08:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: that isn't permanent.
[08:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> rfa_: not with the alternate cd
[08:03] <sqwertle> theadmin: the alternate cd is a low graphics text based install from what I've gathered. The livecd has a graphical install.
[08:03] <sun> SolarisBoy, do you know how to print all frequent used commands? for example, ls, cd cp, mkdir, etc
[08:03] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: well if its in his profile and its sourced it would be
[08:03] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: What on earth is "export"
[08:03] <rfa_> SpaceGhostC2C thanks ;)
[08:03] <gavintlgold> brjann, ah well, I guess it wasn't up to date enough ;)
[08:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> faron: no worries
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: let is not how to set a environment variable
[08:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> theadmin: man export
[08:04] <theadmin> sqwertle: I didn't ask that
[08:04] <brjann> gavintlgold: can't get a break, eh?
[08:04] <sqwertle> theadmin: Oh dear, I'm sorry. It appears that was rfa_
[08:04] <gavintlgold> brjann, I suppose I'll have to wait for lucid for this one, or get it earlier.
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> sun: man 1 intro
[08:04] <gavintlgold> brjann, yeah, I either have input with garbled menu, or a perfect menu with no input
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> sun: you can read up on using man there as well
[08:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> gavintlgold: such is the price of bleeding edge software.
[08:05] <brjann> gavintlgold: oh well. we tried.
[08:05] <gavintlgold> brjann, guess I'll just have to revert to standard ol' ubuntu panels
[08:05] <gavintlgold> or, GNOME to be precise
[08:05] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: let is for mathematical operations afaik
[08:05] <faron>  man 1 intro
[08:05] <faron> ?
[08:05] <sun> SolarisBoy, 'man intro' is ok, why 'man 1 intro' ?
[08:05] <SolarisBoy> 'man 1 intro' <--if you type it is a man page
[08:05] <Semitones> askhader, the wifi documentation could use some updating -- if there's anything you could add to the wiki that would be awesome
[08:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: I didn't say anything about let.
[08:05] <theadmin> faron: man synopsis: man SECTION COMMAND
[08:05] <erorrs> i have installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu 9.10 but cant get kdesktop widgets working
[08:06] <theadmin> sun: Same as to faron
[08:06] <SpaceGhostC2C> sun: man 1 intro is a specific page.
[08:06] <erorrs> i have installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu 9.10 but cant get kdesktop widgets working
[08:06] <theadmin> erorrs: Do not repeat. It works for me, i dunno :/
[08:06] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: i didn't say you did i was saying what i knew.. i guess it needed a ?
[08:06] <faron> solarisboy what the heck is this ?? I don't know what this is but you're makin too much noise on my pc
[08:06] <ae86-drifter> is there a way to create a "pointer" from one folder to another?
[08:06] <theadmin> erorrs: They will only work in KDE however (you have to select that when you log in)
[08:07] <ae86-drifter> like a virtual folder?
[08:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: I don't even know what you're getting at.
[08:07] <brjann> gavintlgold: here's hoping the lucid release will solve your woes. if not, we'll be here :)
[08:07] <SolarisBoy> hmm ok
[08:07] <theadmin> ae86-drifter: A link?
[08:07] <sun> Oh, I see! thanks!
[08:07] <magedragon25> so is this a good place to ask questions to learn some stuff? Just wanna know for future use....
[08:07] <theadmin> ae86-drifter: ln -s '/path/to/target/folder' linkname
[08:07] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: dont set system variables with "let" use export
[08:07] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Will know, thanks
[08:07] <ae86-drifter> theadmin, would that be still in place after a reboot?
[08:08] <theadmin> ae86-drifter: Yep
[08:08] <ae86-drifter> theadmin, so would the "linkname" be the source folder?
[08:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> magedragon25: yes it is. And it is generally only for support questions and not talk. If you want to just chat, try #ubuntu-fftopic
[08:08] <SolarisBoy> faron: what are you talking about?
[08:08] <magedragon25> thanx
[08:09] <theadmin> ae86-drifter: Uh, no. I meant to say this: ln -s 'path/to/source' linkname. Linkname is generally the name of the, how you called it, virtual folder
[08:09] <gavintlgold> brjann, actually.... it looks like I didn't even upgrade the right package. It's not packaged for a given ubuntu version, so the repo ignored it...
[08:09] <ae86-drifter> theadmin, so could i just simply put the path to the "virtual folder"
[08:09] <gavintlgold> brjann, a manual synaptic version install may fix this. I'm not giving up yet :D
[08:10] <tiki> I want to be able to see hidden wireless networks. What do it do?
[08:10] <brjann> gavintlgold: never give up! :)
[08:10] <subham> hello every body does any body knows how much electricity does hp mini uses during an normal uses .. thanks in advance
[08:10] <theadmin> ae86-drifter: Ugh. Give me the path to the real folder, and path where you want the virtual one, and i'll give ya the command
[08:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> tiki: you can't, hence the "hidden" part.
[08:10] <gavintlgold> brjann, yes the ubuntu debugging mantra
[08:10] <subham> hello every body does any body knows how much electricity does hp mini uses during an normal uses in an hours.. thanks in advance
[08:10] <tiki> spaceghostc2c: I can do it on mac and windows though.
[08:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> subham: ask in #hardware.
[08:10] <Fudge> hi, looking for some tweak guides to speeding up gnome on ubuntu, anyone know of any howto's?
[08:10] <ae86-drifter> theadmin: ln -s '/media/exthdd/movies' '/var/www/movies'
[08:11] <theadmin> !ot | subham
[08:11] <Jordan_U> gavintlgold: What problem are you having?
[08:11] <theadmin> ae86-drifter: Looks right
[08:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> subham: is this a ubuntu question?
[08:11] <gavintlgold> Jordan_U, UNR netbook-launcher is not getting input. It's an intel driver bug, we've established
[08:11] <gavintlgold> Jordan_U, from the mouse, that is
[08:11] <ae86-drifter> theadmin cool thanks, i tried using fstab but that didnt work... i had the source folder path in place of the device path
[08:12] <gavintlgold> Jordan_U, I'm trying to install more-recent packages to see if that will fix the bug
[08:12] <Jordan_U> gavintlgold: Is it an already reported bug?
[08:12] <puser> hello, when I try in gnome to open volume control from the pannel, it says:
[08:12] <gavintlgold> Jordan_U, yes, it's apparently fixed in Lucid
[08:12] <puser> Can't start volume control: error in child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)
[08:12] <Jordan_U> gavintlgold: Mind linking?
[08:12] <gavintlgold> Jordan_U, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nubuntu/+source/netbook-launcher/+bug/368394
[08:13] <tiki> Is there such a thing as a GUI for Kismet?
[08:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:13] <pfifo> puser, perhaps just use 'alsamixer' at a command prompt?
[08:13] <puser> I checked in Synaptic, gnome-volume-control is installed
[08:13] <meowbuntu> hi is there a way to restart xserver or do i need to log out and in again
[08:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: try my solution and let me know.
[08:13] <gavintlgold> Jordan_U, right now I'm trying to use the x-swat repos to get a more updated driver version
[08:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: open a terminal service gdm restart
[08:14] <gwinbee> pfifo: one more question, and it's probably going to be a somewhat annoying one.
[08:14] <pfifo> !ask | gwinbee
[08:14] <gwinbee> pfifo: this: http://danbooru-v7sh-grabber.googlecode.com/svn/branches/release-0.10/grab.sh is supposed to be using wget. wget without any options will use the proxy. shoud I safely assume that this script will do the same?
[08:14] <puser> SpaceGhostC2C:
[08:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: what?
[08:15] <puser> puser@chks:~$ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:15] <puser>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                         * warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1541: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing: Permission denied'...                                                                               [fail]
[08:15] <puser>  * Setting up ALSA...                                                    [ OK ]
[08:15] <gwinbee> pfifo: (also, sorry about asking to ask a question)
[08:15] <FloodBot3> puser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> !paste | puser
[08:15] <SolarisBoy> you might want to sudo that command puser
[08:15] <ame> hola
[08:15] <ame> quien eres
[08:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: he did, there are extranneous processes locking up the sound restart
[08:15] <ame> pero como te llamas
[08:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> !es | ame
[08:16] <puser> !paste | puser
[08:16] <bazhang> ame, english here /join #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <SolarisBoy> i dont see sudo
[08:17] <SolarisBoy> 'puser@chks:~$ /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart'
[08:17] <magedragon25> puser: what is the problem your having and your hardware, if you don't mind me asking.....
[08:17] <nnn> asdsad
[08:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: ot > nnn
[08:17] <jasonmchristos> how do i save a text file as a script?
[08:18] <SolarisBoy> jasonmchristos: what type of script is it?
[08:18] <jasonmchristos> just a list of commands
[08:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> jasonmchristos: linux isn't dependent on filetypes. Save the text as whatever you wish then run chdmod +x on it.
[08:18] <Slart> jasonmchristos: usually you just make it executable.. either by right clicking on it and selecting the appropriate box or using chmod
[08:18] <SolarisBoy> jasonmchristos: sh or bash i presume?
[08:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> jasonmchristos: do you have a shabang line?
[08:18] <puser>  /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:18] <jasonmchristos> no just a bunch of command line commands
[08:18] <puser> gives me:
[08:18] <puser>  * Shutting down ALSA...                                                         * warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1541: Cannot open
[08:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: there are extranneous processes, I'm looking how to kill them real quick
[08:19] <puser>  /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing: Permission denied'...                                                                               [fail]
[08:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> !paste > puser
[08:19] <puser>  * Setting up ALSA...                                                    [ OK ]
[08:19] <SolarisBoy> add #! /bin/sh or #! /bin/bash on top save it
[08:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:19] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: thank you
[08:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: what did I do?
[08:20] <SolarisBoy> tell him to use sudo
[08:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: I did originally. He must have failed to see it and copypasta it
[08:20] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: right
[08:20] <puser> megadragon25: I know that the sound is working and the mike, but when I try to open volume control it gives me an error
[08:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: occasionally sometimes the script doesn't end processes that lock up sound.
[08:21] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: yes i've seen that before as well
[08:21] <orb01> hey, I have Kubuntu 9.10 and every time I start aptitude it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop, which doesn't seem like a great idea. What do I do?
[08:21] <tiki> crumbling
[08:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: so you have to manually kill them.
[08:21] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: indeed
[08:21] <gwinbee> anybody else know if a bash or sh script that uses wget will automatically use a proxy, assuming that wget without any options would behave as such?
[08:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> gwinbee: it will use what your system has configured.
[08:22] <gwinbee> I can't imagine why it wouldn't but due to the nature of the script, I don't know how to check either.
[08:22] <gwinbee> SpaceGhostC2C: ok, thank you.
[08:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> gwinbee: no worries friend.
[08:22] <Slart> orb01: check if it wants to just remove the small package kubuntu-desktop (which should be a couple of kilobytes).. or all the kubuntu related packages such as kate, koffice and so on
[08:22] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: would move .asound out of the users ~  directory and then restart alsa-utils do anything there?
[08:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: doubtable. I'd try it though.
[08:23] <Slart> orb01: the kubuntu-desktop package is just a meta package.. ie it doesn't contain anything in itself.. it just depends on and drags in other packages.. those other packages are what you really want
[08:23] <magedragon25> I may have the same prob as puser....I have an hp pavillion dv6z with 9.10. I had to install backports to get sound working. Now i have sound coming out of headphones and speakers...i can adjust using alsamixer at the cli....I want to find another fix for it.
[08:23] <pfifo> gwinbee, that shell script uses its on config file, perhaps it over rides what you set. It also allows wget, fetch and curl. I would run the program like this and see what happens 'HTTP_PROXY=<IP_ADDRESS> ./grab.sh' and if that dosent work I would look at the config file. I can tell right away the sript dosent have any proxy settings since searching for 'proxy' returns no result. If all else fails you can modify line 68 to read 'l_downloader="HT
[08:23] <pfifo> TP_PROXY=<IP_ADDRESS> wget";'
[08:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> !cookie | pfifo
[08:24] <pfifo> gwinbee, you may also be intrested in FTP_PROXY
[08:24] <orb01> Slart: it seems to want to update kubuntu-artwork-usplash, kubuntu-default-settings, libcairo2, libgd2-noxpm, libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 and libgtk2.0-common, but it fails every time, and only sometimes wants to remove the metapackage.
[08:24] <pfifo> SpaceGhostC2C, thanks
[08:24] <gwinbee> pfifo: nah, just need the HTTP_PROXY to the best of my knowledge. also, thank you very much for taking the time to actually look at that script. I didn't expect that.
[08:24] <puser> SpaceGhostC2C: ok, with using sudo, nothing failed, everything got [ok], but the volume control from the panel applet still gives me the same error, but it opes, and did open the main volume.
[08:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> pfifo: thank the bot.
[08:25] <Slart> orb01: well.. removing just the meta package isn't a problem.. you'll still have all the real packages and you can reinstall the kubuntu-desktop package again if you want
[08:25] <pfifo> ubottu, thanks, what about my milk?
[08:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> pfifo: you're welcome though. But the bot had the cookies.
[08:25] <orb01> Slart: the error it gives it Invalid archive signature after a Prior errors apply to the packages it wants to update.
[08:25] <puser> megedragon25: I have HP Pavillion dv6000 with Ubuntu 9.04, but in 8.10 it was working.
[08:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: What was the error again and what machien are you running this on?
[08:25] <SolarisBoy> puser: just for kicks have you upgraded or fresh installed ubuntu and run into this issue?
[08:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: good question.
[08:26] <ralph__> anyone know what I should do if my gpu i just bought didn't come with linux drivers?
[08:26] <Slart> ralph__: what gpu is it?
[08:26] <giacomo_c1> i keep getting this error when trying to run a synaptic update:
[08:26] <giacomo_c1> files list file for package `libapm1' contains empty filename
[08:26] <ralph__> radeon HD5670
[08:26] <Slart> !ati | ralph__ , tried this?
[08:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> ralph__: that's youre video card, not necessarily the gpu.
[08:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> s/youre/your/
[08:27] <ralph__> thanks, i'll try there.  yeah my bad use of terminology :P
[08:27] <meowbuntu> hi is there a one command that i can run to quit all processes running except the system ones
[08:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: killall -u <username>
[08:28] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: might need some sudo.
[08:28] <Jordan_U> meowbuntu: Why?
[08:28] <puser> SpaceGhostC2C: Can't start volume control: Error in child process execution "gnoome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)
[08:28] <puser> Ubuntu 9.04 i386; HP Pavillion dv6000
[08:28] <magedragon25> oh yeah..mine is 64bit
[08:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-control --reinstall
[08:29] <puser> SolarisBoy: I installed 8.10, it was working. Stopped working after an upgradt to 9.04
[08:29] <SolarisBoy> puser: interesting
[08:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: not at all surprising though.
[08:29] <SolarisBoy> puser: have you run updates from the repos?
[08:29] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: nope
[08:29] <pfifo> puser, what happens if you got the terminal and specifically run 'gnome-volume-control'?
[08:29] <snoopy> Hello friends!
[08:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: gksudo > pfifo
[08:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> pfifo: unless you intended to get some debug info. in that case @lart me
[08:30] <Guest68271> hm
[08:30] <pfifo> SpaceGhostC2C, what?
[08:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: did that do what you needed?
[08:31] <Guest68271> How can i view someones cam on yahoo?
[08:31] <meowbuntu> sorry but sudo killall -u (username) called essentual gnome processes
[08:31] <gwinbee> pfifo: there seems to be no mention of a proxy, OR wget in the config file. safe to assume it's doing the same thing that wget would do normally?
[08:31] <meowbuntu> called = killed
[08:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: killing all processes owned by a user does that :)
[08:31] <pfifo> SpaceGhostC2C, 'gnome-volume-control' dosent need root, atleast I ran it without sudo just fine from command prompt
[08:31] <meowbuntu> SpaceGhostC2C, no
[08:31] <puser> SolarisBoy: it stopped working after I upgraded to 9.04, did all of the updates from the repos. My internet is slow. Took 3 days to do that. I checked now, no more updates are available. After updates, still doesn't work.
[08:32] <meowbuntu> i want to kill any extra apps running that may be in background
[08:32] <KruyKaze> is there a way to get rid of the volume icon?
[08:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> pfifo: gksu -u <username> gnome-volume-control
[08:32] <SolarisBoy> puser: try what pfifo said and type gnome-volume-control in a terminal
[08:32] <meowbuntu> KruyKaze, right click on it and remove
[08:32] <gwinbee> pfifo: (or fetch, or curl, for that matter. I'm just about certain it is in fact using wget.)
[08:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: like what? Most sleeping processes don't really hurt much
[08:32] <giacomo_c1> everytime I try to run an apt-get upgrade, i get an error:  http://pastebin.com/bK3jEZBr
[08:32] <KruyKaze> meowbuntu, doesn't work
[08:33] <giacomo_c1> does anyone know what that means or how to possibly fix it?
[08:33] <KruyKaze> meowbuntu, no remove option
[08:33] <meowbuntu> well atm when i first boot os the cpu is maxed out. could that be cause i been on my comp too long
[08:33] <pfifo> gwinbee, curl and wget both respect the enviromental variable http_proxy. if you can say for sure that the script is not using a proxy, edit line 68, I know wget uhas a switch to use a proxy in addition to the envvar
[08:33] <meowbuntu> KruyKaze, what options are there
[08:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: if it's at boot and then doesn't settle, you have a problem, if it settles, then you're okay.
[08:34] <KruyKaze> meowbuntu, sound options and mute
[08:34] <KruyKaze> sound prefs*
[08:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> KruyKaze: no 'unlock' check box?
[08:34] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: what is maxing out the cpu? are you able to try top or htop?
[08:34] <pfifo> SpaceGhostC2C, puser, You dont need super user privileges to run that, im just looking to make sure the program exists and you can run it
[08:34] <KruyKaze> on the icon itself no
[08:34] <meowbuntu> not sure think it is a hot cpu that does it
[08:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: meowbuntu said it was at boot
[08:35] <meowbuntu> ^ SolarisBoy
[08:35] <puser> SpaceGhostC2C: strange, after running:
[08:35] <puser> sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-control --reinstall
[08:35] <puser> I get:
[08:35] <puser> Can't find package gnome-volume-control
[08:35] <puser> I just noticed, I have gnome-volume-control-pulse, but no gnome-volume-control in Synaptic
[08:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> pfifo: whereis <program>
[08:35] <zonric> #quit
[08:35] <tullingen> zonric, you don't have 'basics::quit::quit' permissions here
[08:35] <meowbuntu> this usually happens after running for a long time adn when i reboot sometimes it fixes othertimes not
[08:36] <meowbuntu> my therory is that it may be my computer cant handle being in use for too long
[08:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: do you have a bunch of extra apps running? Or a million tabs in FF or chromium?
[08:36] <meowbuntu> nothing just xchat atm
[08:36] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: whats at boot?
[08:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: what meowbuntu said. 100% cpu usage.
[08:37] <SolarisBoy> how did we deduce this at boot time?
[08:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: I said if it persists there may be a problem.
[08:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: it's what s/he said.
[08:37] <gwinbee> pfifo: added. that change to line 68 only affects curl, correct?
[08:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: you're free to scroll back.,
[08:37] <meowbuntu> itds jumping between 75 - 100 yes
[08:37] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: no i read correctly the first time
[08:37] <meowbuntu> btw i never see swap in use
[08:38] <pfifo> gwinbee, no, it only affects wget
[08:38] <puser> pfifo: it says that gnome-volume-control is not installed.
[08:38] <puser> OK, I will try to install it say the result
[08:38] <SolarisBoy> s/meowbuntu/SpaceGhostC2C/
[08:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: what processor do you have?
[08:38] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, its runnung 75-100% on average atm
[08:38] <pfifo> puser, were on the right path, it cant run it if its not installed, thats for sure
[08:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: what processor is this on?
[08:38] <meowbuntu> CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (UP) cache 512 KB flags (sse2) clocked at 1835.906 MHz
[08:39] <meowbuntu> with 768mbram
[08:39] <gwinbee> pfifo: I can't help but feel that I did this wrong, then. I apologize for my noobishness. http://pastebin.com/6hC5rewX
[08:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser do whereis gnome-volume-control
[08:39] <pfifo> puser, install the *-pulse package see if it provides our program
[08:39] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: what is being started at boot time? meowbuntu are you able to take top or htop to see what is maxing out the cpu?
[08:40] <pfifo> http://pastebin.com/cfveiJBZ
[08:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: tell him/her to switch to a virtual terminal and login and use htop.
[08:40] <pfifo> gwinbee, http://pastebin.com/cfveiJBZ
[08:40] <ralph__> Ok so actually ATI has a linux driver for my graphics card, i feel a little stupid for not even checking before :P
[08:40] <puser> pfifo: you are right, It's just I thought that I had it installed, but it actually was gnome-volume-control-pulse instead of just gnome-volume control., so, I tell you the result, it's being downloaded from the repo right now.
[08:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:41] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, i can but dont understand it. i really find the xp interface better as its not jumping around all the time
[08:41] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: you can sort top and will be more readable
[08:41] <gwinbee> pfifo: If I could, I'd buy you a beer. thanks. again.
[08:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> gwinbee: you could. technically.
[08:42] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: when you open top there are certain keys you can press to sort it..like so as per help menu: l,t,m     Toggle Summaries: 'l' load avg; 't' task/cpu stats; 'm' mem info
[08:42] <pfifo> puser, ok good. if the package your installing has a program named 'gnome-volume-control-pulse' you should be able to use a symlink to get the applet to run it.
[08:42] <giacomo_c> any time i try to do anything via apt-get, i get this error:  http://pastebin.com/bK3jEZBr
[08:42] <giacomo_c> can someone help?
[08:43] <SolarisBoy> this means if type top,, then type l you will have a sort of processes holding highest load on the cpu,, then typing m you can see processes using most memory,, also > or < can sort by column of your choice
[08:43] <puser> OK, thank you guys!!!!!
[08:43] <puser> It worked, when I tried to run from the console:
[08:43] <ralph__> what's the difference between sudo and sh?
[08:43] <puser> gnome-volume-control
[08:43] <puser> it suggested installing gnome-media
[08:43] <puser> I installed it and it works now.
[08:43] <FloodBot3> puser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> puser: you owe it all to pfifo
[08:43] <SolarisBoy> ralph__: sh is a command interpreter
[08:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: cookie | pfifo
[08:43] <SolarisBoy> ralph__: sudo is a command used for priveledge escalation
[08:43] <meowbuntu> its ruby maxing things out i think
[08:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: it's a shell.
[08:43] <puser> pfifo: Thank You!!!
[08:44] <ralph__> SolarisBoy: thanks!
[08:44] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: what do shells do?
[08:44] <meowbuntu> but i need ruby to run one application i need to have
[08:44] <SolarisBoy> ralph__: did you mean sudo and su ?
[08:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: lots, not just interpret commands.
[08:44] <ralph__> nope, i meant sudo and sh :P
[08:44] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: ok =) got me there
[08:44] <ralph__> i'm very new to linux
[08:44] <demonspork> how do I open a second manpage for something? I can read "man crontab" and it is crontab(1), but I can't figure out how to read "man crontab(5)
[08:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> rait's okay.
[08:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> ralph__: it's okay
[08:44] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, i need ruby for netresponsability
[08:44] <pfifo> giacomo_c, maybe try 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:44] <ralph__> like i have no idea why your name turns yellow when you're talking to me
[08:45] <sabat> exit
[08:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> demonspork: press q then manpage 5 crontab
[08:45] <ralph__> or why my name has two underscores after it now
[08:45] <giacomo_c> pfifo, it doesn't change anything if i run update
[08:45] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: is ruby whats on the top and holding the CPU up? what is netresponsability?
[08:45] <puser> Now, I just have to figure out one little thing: why my skype is not getting a mic input, only white noise, while in sound recording apps, I got a recording
[08:45] <pfifo> giacomo_c, 'Need to get 0B/9,572kB of archives.' is quite disturbing to me
[08:46] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: so this runs in the background and logs internet traffic?
[08:46] <supermatt1000> help i cant get my game pad wworking in wine it says that one of the buttons are always pushed down
[08:46] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, its accountability software
[08:46] <magedragon25> anyone good with flash here??
[08:46] <giacomo_c> pfifo: i think that's because the packages are already installed, there's some problem with dpkg here
[08:46] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: right and it runs in the background and logs internet traffic
[08:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> !anyone > magedragon25
[08:46] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: http://sourceforge.net/projects/responsibility/
[08:46] <bva> puser, do you have skype linked to the audio output eg, is it not muted? You can check in the audio settings last tab button
[08:47] <giacomo_c> i mean, the packages are downloaded, not installed yet due to the error in dpkg pfifo
[08:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: that link looks like a joke :P
[08:47] <demonspork> SpaceGhostC2C, thank you very much, I didn't think to put the number first
[08:47] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: its real
[08:47] <pfifo> giacomo_c, what dose synaptic do, and the update manager? or are you managing this via ssh?
[08:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> demonspork: no worries.
[08:47] <SolarisBoy> =)
[08:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: still funny :)
[08:47] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: indeed =)
[08:47] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: i think the issue may be resources vs. a program like that
[08:47] <giacomo_c> im not using ssh.  synaptic gives me the same exact error, along with the updatemanager.  because it's running the same commands im running from the terminal
[08:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: a P4 right? Yeah.
[08:48] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, http://www.netresponsibility.com/
[08:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> giacomo_c: what is the link?
[08:48] <giacomo_c> http://pastebin.com/bK3jEZBr
[08:48] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: yep its available on sourceforge as well,, i see what it does,, it sounds like a cpu/memory hog
[08:48] <pfifo> giacomo_c, perhaps try a 'sudo apt-get clean' and start over
[08:48] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: is there a config file that you can tweak settings or something?
[08:48] <meowbuntu> yes but i need it for my family to be protected. i have it set up so i get all dodgy stuff sent to email.
[08:48] <ralph__> umm....so i just tried going to facebook and now it's all in german?
[08:49] <Spaztic_One> SpaceGhostC2C: I have been unable to establish a wireless connection while using ubuntu. According to lspci -v | less in the terminal, I have a WMP54G Version 4.5 using chipset BCM4318 [AirForce One 54G] which uses the bcm43xx-fwcutter driver... I do not know what to do from here, could you advise me?
[08:49] <magedragon25> I have 9.10 64bit. I have both adobe flash components installed thru synaptic. Most flash sites work, but I have to do work on Cisco's website and that is one of the sites my flash doesn't work right
[08:49] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: meowbuntu is this the sole purpose of that system?
[08:49] <ralph__> or whatever language this: ile iletişime geçmek için   is
[08:49] <supermatt1000> help i cant get my game pad wworking in wine it says that one of the buttons are always pushed down
[08:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: you used jockey-gtk?
[08:49] <meowbuntu> if someone can help me minimise netresponsabilitys usage so i can still run it better i would be gratefull
[08:49] <psycho_oreos> Spaztic_One, you'll need to manually modprobe b43 driver, or better yet reboot and let ubuntu try to load up b43 as usual
[08:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> giacomo_c: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:49] <giacomo_c> pfifo: i just did a clean, reupdated, then tried to upgrade again.  it redownloaded the files, but then couldn't install them due to the problem with dpkg
[08:49] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: generally people install proxies on a system that will be serving solely as a proxy,, if you expect to do other things you need to provide more resources
[08:49] <giacomo_c> SpaceGhostC2C: i'll try it
[08:50] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: show me the line in top for netresponsibility...
[08:50] <supermatt1000> help i cant get my game pad wworking in wine it says that one of the buttons are always pushed down
[08:50] <ZykoticK9> how could I find out what device (ie /dev/ttyS1, /dev/cua0, etc) my bluetooth USB adapter uses?
[08:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> supermatt1000: sounds like a #wine problem
[08:50] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, usually info would be in via dmesg
[08:50] <giacomo_c> SpaceGhostC2C: that does nothing,
[08:51] <Spaztic_One> SpaceGhostC2C: I do not know what any of what you said is, means, or how to do it (as applicable).
[08:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> giacomo_c: sorry friend.
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> psycho_oreos, dmesg shows next to nothing.  lsusb will show the device name, but nothing more.
[08:51] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: i assume it is using a large chunk of your memory and holding up the processor, likely starving other processes which makes the system slow,, possibly if you really need to make this work as is you will think of adding physical resource to the system
[08:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: press ALT+F2 and type gksudo jockey-gtk
[08:51] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, when was the dongle plugged in? before/during or after bootup?
[08:51] <ralph__> ex-chat
[08:52] <magedragon25> I have 9.10 64bit. I have both adobe flash components installed thru synaptic. Most flash sites work, but I have to do work on Cisco's website and that is one of the sites my flash doesn't work right on
[08:52] <ralph__> exit
[08:52] <ZykoticK9> psycho_oreos, right now - dmesg only shows "usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3" & "usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" when it's plugged in
[08:52] <SpaceGhostC2C> magedragon25: there's a bit of problems with flash, it's improving though.
[08:52] <TxMatt> is firestarter any goood?
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, it might be missing driver/firmware
[08:53] <magedragon25> thought maybe I could find something....
[08:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> TxMatt: as it manages iptables, yes. But only as good as the person configuring it.
[08:53] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: good answer
[08:53] <ZykoticK9> psycho_oreos, oh it works fine - i just need the info to try and get Wammu working
[08:53] <duffydack> M friends asus laptops numpad no longer works after an update (he doesnt know what), does anyone what the problem might be?
[08:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: I pride myself on my good answers. Thanks for noticing.
[08:53] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, pastebin your lsusb
[08:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> duffydack:  a lack of information-sharing
[08:54] <duffydack> heh
[08:54] <ZykoticK9> psycho_oreos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/394571/
[08:54] <duffydack> ok, just thought I`d ask... he`s not online and I dont have the laptop...
[08:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> duffydack: input. Need input </johnney-5>
[08:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> duffydack: My car is broken at the moment, how would I fix it?
[08:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> duffydack: trade problems?
[08:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> :P
[08:56] <alzamabar> I'm creating a linux-swap partition. Is that a primary partition or an extended partition?
[08:56] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> alzamabar: depends on what you want, I'd use a primary if you have less than 4 other partitions.
[08:56] <magedragon25> Is there another fix besides running alsamixer in term for sound coming out of headphones and speakers at the same time?
[08:56] <researcher1> whats the meaning of `Failed to open the display from DISPLAY environmental variable` n how to correct it
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> alzamabar:  an extended HOLDS logicals
[08:56] <Jordan_U> alzamabar: Yes ( it can be either )
[08:56] <ZykoticK9> psycho_oreos, the version that can't be mentioned in this channel
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> alzamabar:  it can be primary or a logical  - Not sure if you can do it with just an 'extended'
[08:57] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: you can alternatively _not_ use that software.. there are other proxy softwares that are capable of doing that and more which are supported and in repos
[08:57] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, ah ha, because you don't have support in that channel or?
[08:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> researcher1: your xserver needs to know where to send the visual stuff and it isn't set.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> an extended with no logicals.. would be a primary id think
[08:57] <ZykoticK9> psycho_oreos, Lucid
[08:57] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, yeah I've figured that out, but what you've tried their channels with no answer?
[08:57] <alzamabar> SpaceGhostC2C: Thanks
[08:57] <bazhang> ZykoticK9, you are using lucid?
[08:57] <alzamabar> Dr_willis: thanks
[08:58] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, guilty
[08:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> alzamabar: anytime friend.
[08:58] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: that actually looks rather old/unsupported.. and scary it looks like the developer/maintainers dropped support for this in 2007 ?
[08:58] <alzamabar> Jordan_U: thanks
[08:58] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, +1 i know (bad ZykoticK9, bad ZykoticK9)
[08:58] <bazhang> ZykoticK9, the correct channel is #ubuntu+1 for lucid support and discussion
[08:58] <Jordan_U> alzamabar: You're welcome
[08:58] <magedragon25> Is there another fix besides running alsamixer in term for sound coming out of headphones and speakers at the same time?
[08:59] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, have you actually given it a go with karmic or jackalope instead of heading towards lucid?
[08:59] <sine`> whats the command for disk info
[08:59] <SolarisBoy> sine`: fdisk
[08:59] <ZykoticK9> psycho_oreos, it's all good man, thanks for trying :)
[08:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: what sort of info?
[08:59] <pfifo> sine`, what are you looking for?
[08:59] <sine`> i want to know how much hd space etc
[08:59] <psycho_oreos> ZykoticK9, k
[08:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: partition sizes, or free space?
[08:59] <sine`> i cant remember it
[08:59] <sine`> just my drives and free space
[08:59] <SolarisBoy> sine`: ahh file system info,, df
[08:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: du -h /
[08:59] <sine`> thats it!
[08:59] <psycho_oreos> sine`, fdisk -l or df -h
[08:59] <pfifo> sine`, `df -h`
[09:00] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, no its still activily supported. the origional creator handed the project on to others who still maintain it.
[09:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: df -h
[09:00] <meowbuntu> here is the origional forum.
[09:00] <meowbuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8959359
[09:00] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: i see .. well there are other choices which may work better for you,, squid possibly?
[09:00] <sine`> ok how do i format my usb drive that is /dev/sdb1
[09:00] <psycho_oreos> df -h will only show info on mounted partitions though
[09:00] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: more configurable even
[09:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: there are lots of ways.
[09:00] <sine`> i want it NTFS to take some files from my windows partition
[09:00] <sine`> quick NTFS
[09:00] <psycho_oreos> sine`, mkfs.ntfs --help
[09:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: you could use a GUI programs.
[09:01] <psycho_oreos> like qtparted/gparted
[09:01] <meowbuntu> here is the new site maintained by the new people http://www.netresponsibility.com/ <- see when this was created
[09:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: you could use a few CLI ones. I prefer cfdisk
[09:01] <sine`> no i want a command line for it ive flirted with linux over the years and i just need refreshing
[09:01] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, are you sure they work similar
[09:01] <sine`> ill use mkfs
[09:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: I prefer cfdisk, try that. do sudo cfdisk /dev/<devicenode>
[09:01] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: this is doing nothing more than logging website that you 'flagged' ?
[09:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: okay. Have fun!
[09:02] <meowbuntu> the best application i have found is xxxchurch (x3watch) but that is only a ubuntu application adn installed in wine will not log the ubuntu os
[09:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: what is meowbuntu trying to do and dear goodness why perl or whatever they have running?
[09:02] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, and sending them to my friend
[09:02] <meowbuntu> so i am kept accountable
[09:03] <magedragon25> Is there another fix besides running alsamixer in term for sound coming out of headphones and speakers at the same time?
[09:03] <Spaztic_One> SpaceGhostC2C: No dice. Doing so brought up a window that said that there were no proprietary drivers present.
[09:03] <alesito> hola
[09:03] <gwinbee> pfifo: not sure how, but those changes broke something.
[09:03] <alesito> quien eres?
[09:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | alesito
[09:03] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: looks like he is trying to log web requests sent from that PC using that s/w
[09:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: es | alesito
[09:04] <gwinbee> pfifo: danbooru_grabber_query_result: No such file or directory
[09:04] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: it is a daemon that monitors the box for web requests and does reports and all type of other things and sends mails etc etc
[09:05] <stuart_> how do i remove the username list at login?
[09:05] <stuart_> i dont' want people to see the 'options' they can login as
[09:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: why not just use squid?  You're a cool person.
[09:05] <SolarisBoy> ;> ditto
[09:06] <erorrs> i am having a kde-crash issue in kubuntu 9.10
[09:06] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, squid is not goiong to do what netresponsability dies different app altogether
[09:06] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: yes it will and more
[09:06] <SpaceGhostC2C> stuart_: System>Administration>Login Screen
[09:06] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, so how can i set it up to send reports to my friend then
[09:06] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: what are you doing exactly? What do you want from the setup?
[09:07] <erorrs> i am havin kde-crash in kubuntu 9.10
[09:07] <brjann> stuart_: open up a terminal and run this:     sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true
[09:07] <stuart_> SpaceGhostC2C: that only gives me the option to let me choose who will log in, or log in instantly. i want it to have no userlist
[09:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: record all sites and send them a daily digest.
[09:07] <stuart_> brjann: k will do
[09:07] <SpaceGhostC2C> stuart_: look in gconf
[09:07] <erorrs> any help kde-crash in kubuntu 9.10
[09:07] <erorrs> any help kde-crash in kubuntu 9.10
[09:07] <erorrs> any help kde-crash in kubuntu 9.10
[09:07] <FloodBot3> erorrs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <brjann> SpaceGhostC2C: it's actually in the gdm user's gconf, which makes it a bit harder to get to
[09:07] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: thats part of the configuration,, squid is likely going to call on you mail client to send mails and provide options for configuring a mail address and on what events you need to send mail
[09:07] <stuart_> wth is a kde crash
[09:08] <pfifo> gwinbee, I dont really know what that scrip dose, and its too big for me to just rewrite. What is it your tring todo anyway?
[09:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> stuart_: dont' bother.
[09:08] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: trust me squid is way suited for this task,, additionally you will get updates naturally from this, it is supported by a WAY huger community,, it is well known working software,, and if im not mistaken its not a resource hog
[09:08] <meowbuntu> SpaceGhostC2C, i am using this ap[plication http://www.netresponsibility.com/   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550287
[09:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: squid can do a lot, a single idea I have now is to send a daily digest of visited sited to your friend.
[09:09] <meowbuntu> SpaceGhostC2C, it uses ruby and hogs between 75-100% of memory
[09:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: the applications isn't the reason or rationale, what do you want to have accomplished?
[09:09] <gwinbee> pfifo: s'ok, I've stumbled across someone who knows more about that script specifically.
[09:09] <Spaztic_One> SpaceGhostC2C: Any other ideas in regards to my wireless issue?
[09:09] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: its likely written and depends on ruby modules.. thats it
[09:09] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: ruby is not the issue that program is
[09:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> Spaztic_One: get your drivers and modprobe them in. I can't say how.
[09:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: SolarisBoy moving from that. what is the need that the program fills, so we can possibly suggest a different solution?
[09:10] <sine`> ok when trying to format the usb drive with mkfs.vfat it said i cant because its mounted, so i umount and then do df and i cant see it so how can i see drives that are unmounted please
[09:10] <meowbuntu> netresponsability only sends the sites that are considdered dodgy baised on keywords etc
[09:11] <sine`> i should have googled dont worry !
[09:11] <meowbuntu> ok i am going to try squid
[09:11] <zongo> Hi I have a 3G usb modem from zoom model 4595 and its not recognized as a serial modem. Is there any chance for me to make it work ?
[09:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: you need to use the /dev/<devicenode>
[09:11] <zongo> it has no linux driver
[09:11] <meowbuntu> sine`, unmount and use gparted its better
[09:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: so you want a website blocker? Do you know the sites? You can also use your hosts file to do that.
[09:11] <sine`> no i want to learn command line !
[09:12] <fuge> Hi! My tv card can not find any channel. the os is xubuntu and the previous version it was working
[09:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: then use the /dev/<devicenode>
[09:12] <meowbuntu> zongo, it should not need drivers thats the beauty of linux
[09:12] <sine`> I did
[09:12] <sine`> nkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[09:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: with sudo?
[09:12] <sine`> yea
[09:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: and den?
[09:12] <zongo> meowbuntu: well when it is not recognized as a serial modem what do you do ?
[09:13] <afrodeity> metacity-common post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[09:13] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: he also gets mails from that s/w ... meowbuntu SpaceGhostC2C is correct dodgy sites can be sent to <IP_ADDRESS> making them inaccesible so long as the user isn't bypassing the host file i believe
[09:13] <meowbuntu> no net responsability does not blok websits it moniters the internet usage looking for sites it thiks are dodgy baised on critera and then sends them to my friend
[09:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> zongo: pray. google and pray. :)
[09:13] <psycho_oreos> lol
[09:13] <zongo> i have done google :)
[09:13] <sine`> sine@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[09:13] <sine`> mkfs.vfat 3.0.3 (18 May 2009)
[09:13] <sine`> mkfs.vfat: /dev/sdb1 contains a mounted file system.
[09:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: you can also use iptables.
[09:13] <zongo> and pray --> not since i was 6
[09:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: unmount it then.
[09:14] <sine`> i did but then i cant see it in df and i wondered..... how do you see unmounted drive in linux
[09:14] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: correct,, you can also use iptables & squid together for that matter =)
[09:14] <sine`> just out of curiosety
[09:14] <psycho_oreos> probably the most easiest way out is to purchase a 3G capable router that will handle your 3G device
[09:14] <sine`> curiousity
[09:14] <sine`> WHATEVA
[09:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: if you're gonna format it, why look at it?
[09:14] <sine`> i cant spell
[09:14] <psycho_oreos> sine`,  it needs to be mounted first
[09:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: and hosts
[09:15] <meowbuntu> zoom plug it in then boot os does it not pick it up
[09:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: *has* to be unmounted.
[09:15] <sine`> im trying to work out how it works. Im in command line and say my system doesnt AUTO mount usb drives how does an admin see whats connected
[09:15] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: adblock plus as well,, additionally lots of new routers allow you to do minimal url blocking
[09:15] <SolarisBoy> which suffices for the home user
[09:15] <psycho_oreos> sine`, for block devices its usually via mount
[09:15] <sine`> ok
[09:15] <sine`> cool
[09:15] <meowbuntu> zoom is this what you need http://www.techsupportforum.com/networking-forum/modems-cable-dsl-satellite/208758-zoom-56k-usb-modem-ubuntu.html
[09:15] <sine`> thats alli wanted to know
[09:16] <meowbuntu> zongo,  is this what you need http://www.techsupportforum.com/networking-forum/modems-cable-dsl-satellite/208758-zoom-56k-usb-modem-ubuntu.html
[09:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: but adblock is for ads not sites, it's a helper for sure.
[09:16] <meowbuntu> zongo,  plug it in then boot os does it not pick it up
[09:16] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: true
[09:16] <zongo> yes it is mounting but not as a serial modem
[09:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: lspci | less
[09:16] <sine`> its done
[09:17] <SpaceGhostC2C> sine`: that lets you see what hardware is in the machine.
[09:17] <sine`> ah yea i remember that one thanks
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> meowbuntu, zongo has a zoom 3G modem not a 56K modem
[09:17] <sine`> i need a little pad to write down these important ones till i remember them
[09:17] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, ok i am going to try squid.
[09:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: let us know if you need help.
[09:18] <LincoN^> How do i mount a disk in Ubuntu? (like i do in Alcohol or daemon tools in windows)
[09:18] <kinja-sheep> LincoN^: Double-click the ISO.
[09:18] <psycho_oreos> LincoN^, for that you'll need cdemu
[09:18] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: cool let us know if you need assistance on your task
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> !loop
[09:19] <stuart_> can i get a new xterm because i'm not really liking the one in linuxmint
[09:19] <stuart_> how can i change it to something better looking
[09:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> stuart_: you can add another terminal.
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> stuart_:  thers dozens of terminal emulator programs out there
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[09:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> stuart_: we can't help you with linuxmint.
[09:19] <LincoN^> psycho_oreos,  should i download it using program thing?
[09:19] <LincoN^> ok ty
[09:19] <LincoN^> ill try
[09:20] <SolarisBoy> hey whats wrong with xterm =(
[09:20] <psycho_oreos> LincoN^, I don't think its available off synaptic by default cdemu would require you to add ppa
[09:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: make a directory. Then sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/for/iso
[09:20] <kinja-sheep> LincoN^: Sending Evolution or any other program to different desktop workspace usually work too.
[09:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: you don't need a extra program.
[09:20] <kinja-sheep> LincoN^: Oops. Wrong person.
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> i like 'terminator'
[09:20] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: I LOVE terminator
[09:20] <brjann> !mintsupport > stuart_
[09:20] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, depends on what the person needs to use it for and what files are we talking about :)
[09:21] <stuart_> and what's the shortcut to change workdesk's again
[09:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> Hand me anything with screen.
[09:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: Mounting a iso is best done in the command line, hands down. gmount is okay for GUI's
[09:21] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: they should make like profiles that you can autostart or let you save the way you have one terminator terminal
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  edit the code. :) its a fancy python script I recall
[09:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: jsut learn screen.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> use screen in terminator :)
[09:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> s/jsut/just
[09:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: you're hardcore.
[09:22] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: i know it to well.. my issue with screen sometimes is the switching and horridness of the splitting
[09:22] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: now screen + terminator is lethal
[09:22] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, the only limitation is that: 1) it can only handle ISO unless you use fusermount which may handle a few other exotic CD images. 2) When its mounted, its treated like a block device not as a virtual CD/DVD drive with that image file appearing as the disc
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !info byobu
[09:23] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: funny you mention i've actually been fooling with byobu as well
[09:23] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: with a GUI?
[09:23] <LincoN^> is this command line right? http://pastebin.com/Lt2xM9Xa
[09:23] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: not at all with the command line.
[09:23] <SolarisBoy> LincoN^: those spaces wont work
[09:23] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, no, that's a CLI based tool I've seen a few GUI for that but they don't work well
[09:24] <LincoN^> i noticed that
[09:24] <sine`> ok time to reboot thanks guys laters
[09:24] <LincoN^> so _ instead of space?
[09:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: mount is pretty simple.
[09:24] <SolarisBoy> LincoN^: sudo mount -o loop "/media/Lokal disk/hemtankat/Borderlands-RELOADED/rld-blns/Borderlands/rld-blns.iso" "/media/Lokal disk/hemtankat/Borderlands-RELOADED/rld-blns/Borderlands"
[09:24] <meowbuntu> squid is not in menu
[09:24] <meowbuntu> is squid a terminal application
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> why would SQID be in the menus :)
[09:24] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: squid is generally configured in text files
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> !info squid
[09:25] <LincoN^> SolarisBoy,  i just get an > and i can write more stuff after that
[09:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: if there is a space in the mounted drive, you have to escape it.
[09:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: I'll give you a fixed post.
[09:25] <SolarisBoy> LincoN^: did you keep all the qoutes as they are?
[09:25] <LincoN^> oh
[09:25] <LincoN^> w8
[09:25] <meowbuntu> ok i have installed squid is there a gtk frount end for it
[09:25] <SolarisBoy> yea i was going to say the escape thing to,, i thought qoutes worked as well =(
[09:26] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, what I meant is that for example, 1) what if you encounter .nrg, .bin/.cue, etc? 2) what if you want to simply point smplayer to play a dvd but you have an image file of the dvd?
[09:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: mount will still mount them.
[09:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: in the end, mount is still mount.
[09:26] <LincoN^> so: file not found
[09:26] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: http://pastebin.com/VmaweZm2
[09:26] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, I don't think you're following me but that's ok, you'll experience it sooner or later
[09:26] <stuart_> for more 'bigger company' servers, what distros are usually used? are GUI's usually installed?
[09:27] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, how can i get the gui for it in ubuntu
[09:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: I've mounted each of the file types you mention.
[09:27] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: red hat ,solaris, aix , hp-ux, maybe debian or Suse, and no GUIs not used
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, on which version? and they can also appear as virtual CD/DVD drives that you can simply point smplayer to play DVD for example in?
[09:27] <LincoN^> SpaceGhostC2C, results in http://pastebin.com/wg1cfdB1
[09:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: if it makes you giddy, you can mount them to /media/cdrom
[09:27] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: would need to search on it,, i think there is a web configuration tool for it possibly
[09:27] <stuart_> SolarisBoy: k cool, thanks
[09:28] <meowbuntu> ues there is
[09:28] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: np
[09:28] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: linux.
[09:28] <stuart_> SolarisBoy: the solaris installations used for servers, are they free?
[09:28] <LincoN^> maybe i could install like alcohol 120% and wine it?
[09:28] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, I know its linux, I'm saying which version of ubuntu
[09:28] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: no
[09:28] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: opensolaris is however
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> vlc and mplayer can play dvd 'iso' files directly
[09:28] <stuart_> no freakin wonder i can't find solaris
[09:28] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: it isn't ubuntu-version dependent.
[09:29] <SolarisBoy> hehehe
[09:29] <meatbun> i am on win7, want to install ubuntu without burning a cd. what's that app that will allow me to do so?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  unetbootin - makes a bootable flash drive you can boot/install from
[09:29] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: infrarecorder will afaik
[09:29] <stuart_> SolarisBoy: have you ever messed with solaris?
[09:29] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: now what do you think?
[09:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: look again and copy it better.
[09:29] <tamran> question: why does Ubuntu put the swap partition at the end of the drive and not the beginning of the drive? doesn't putting at the beginning increase speed on it a little?
[09:29] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: among other things, yeah.
[09:29] <brjann> !wubi | meatbun
[09:29] <stuart_> yeah good question
[09:29] <meatbun> Dr_Willis: there's another. forgot the name... something wutz
[09:29] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: ofcourse =)
[09:29] <stuart_> SolarisBoy: does it differ much from linux
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> tamran:  i doubt if it matters much these days with mondern hard drives
[09:30] <meatbun> yah. brjann wubi
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  theres several but unetbootinis themost common
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  see Pendrivelinux web site for lists of others
[09:30] <llutz> tamran: by forcing the pain when using swap, they try to make you buying more RAM
[09:30] <meatbun> Dr_Willis: ok. am going to try wubi
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  wubi does NOT do whatyou asked..
[09:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: http://pastebin.com/J1zigyHd Try that one.
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  i suggest virtualbox over wubi. I HATE wubi
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, and those mdf/mds formats? b6i, b6t?
[09:31] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: in general sense of management and administration no,, in sense of im coming from ubuntu/debian -> solaris, yes
[09:31] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all !
[09:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: can we not inject opinion into support?
[09:31] <meatbun> Dr_Willis: wubi is a virtual OS?
[09:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: maybe just offer a secondary solution.
[09:31] <stuart_> SolarisBoy: okay cool, thanks agai
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> !wubi | meatbun
[09:31] <LincoN^> it results in not finding file
[09:31] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: anytime
[09:32] <^mNotIntelligent> can someone help me installing apache2 on ubuntu 9.04... i'm getting errors: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2-utils_2.2.11-2ubuntu2.5_i386.deb: 404 Not Found
[09:32] <LincoN^> even tough it's right path
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> SpaceGhostC2C:  he ashed how to install without burning a cd.. i did offer suggestions and suggested virtualbox over wubi
[09:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: then you put the path in incorrectly. hmm.
[09:32] <stuart_> btw, how do i install skype on ubuntu
[09:32] <^mNotIntelligent> and many more like that...
[09:32] <llutz> LincoN^: don't use the dir with the iso as mountpoint
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  i see dozens of people in here a week with wubi issues that are very hard to fix.
[09:32] <LincoN^> SpaceGhostC2C, i copied the line at the top of the "explorer"
[09:32] <brjann> meatbun: no, wubi does not use virtualization.
[09:32] <meowbuntu> what is better as a gui for squid  vim-gtk 2:7.2.245-2ubuntu2 or vim-gnome 2:7.2.245-2ubuntu2
[09:32] <^mNotIntelligent> stuart_, get the pkg from skkypes site and install it ...thats the way i did it
[09:32] <SolarisBoy> stuart_: skype isi installed afaik SpaceGhostC2C wasn't that part of default install at some point?
[09:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: unetbootin or putting grub2 on the usb and booting the iso
[09:33] <meatbun> Dr_Willis: hm... ok
[09:33] <meatbun> brjann: ok
[09:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: default install for what?
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  using 'virtualbox' would let you test out ubuntu in a virutal machine .
[09:33] <LincoN^> http://pastebin.com/L2zGYeGH
[09:33] <SolarisBoy> SpaceGhostC2C: n/m i just confused ekiga with skype
[09:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: you're asking us if you want to install different text editors.
[09:33] <meatbun> Dr_Willis: no. not what i need
[09:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: yeah. No worries.
[09:33] <Slart> meowbuntu: eh.. those don't look like guis for squid at all.. for vim perhaps
[09:33] <stuart_> ^mNotIntelligent: k thanks
[09:33] <SpaceGhostC2C> meatbun: what do you need?
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> meatbun:  but  if you want a normal type install. Use somthign like unetbootin tomake a bootable flash drive and boot/install from that
[09:34] <LincoN^> "Filen eller katalogen finns inte" = File or cataloge not found
[09:34] <^mNotIntelligent> stuart_, no probs
[09:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: your path is broken.
[09:34] <stuart_> wow elinks is some crazy stuff
[09:34] <duffydack> This might sound odd, but is there a way I can have a certain application open up on the next free/empty workspace available?  like say I have 4 desktops and 2 have programs opened, it would then open up on desktop 3.
[09:34] <llutz> LincoN^: find ~ -name rld-blns.iso
[09:34] <meatbun> SpaceGhostC2C: regular ubuntu. using regular ISO, without burning cd. Dr_Willis said i need usb boot method
[09:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> duffydack: look into something like devilspie
[09:34] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: devilspie > duffydack
[09:35] <Slart> duffydack: see if there is a compiz launcher thingy you can use.. (if you're using compiz).. or have a look at devilspie
[09:35] <LincoN^> hum, llutz rezults in i end up at desktop...
[09:35] <pfifo> lulz, im using vmware to install XP on an external harddrive, take that M$
[09:35] <LincoN^> The file lays in an extern drive if that could be any problem
[09:35] <llutz> LincoN^: find /media -name rld-blns.iso              sorry
[09:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> meatbun: He's right. You need some sort of usb install. Unless you want the unsavoury Wubi install, which is best used for temporary ubuntu installs before a serious dedication.
[09:36] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, I've tried mounting .cue/.bin files, no dice, not even when specifying as -o loop.. tell me how you use mount without fusemount or cdemu?
[09:36] <LincoN^> I'm kinda new on ubuntu/linux systems :)
[09:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> pfifo: say that sorta thing on #ubuntu-offtopic bro. Not here :)
[09:36] <duffydack> Im using compiz and I have the 'place windows' plugin already setup for some programs to open on certain desktops, but there is no option to open on a free workspace.
[09:36] <meatbun> SpaceGhostC2C: i thought wubi came a long way. there used to be phatlinux.iso
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  thers a cue/bin to iso converter tool. 'bchunk' or somthing like that
[09:37] <psycho_oreos> Dr_Willis, and without converting it prior to mounting it?
[09:37] <ralph__> so i installed the linux drivers for my video card from the ATI website, but i still can't the "normal" or "Extra" visual effects to work.  Anyone have any idea what to do?
[09:37] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/networking/squid.shtml
[09:37] <duffydack> nevermind..i`ll just expo/move the app.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  then you use some of the FUSE iso type tools.
[09:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> meatbun: best suggestion to get the best end experience is to use unetbooten like Dr_Willis originally said.
[09:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> duffydack: don't like writing rules for windows?
[09:37] <meatbun> SpaceGhostC2C: yeah. i am reading
[09:37] <psycho_oreos> Dr_Willis, that's what I said before, without using fusemount/cdemu
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  many of those i read can access other then iso type formats
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  then you dont.. there ya go.
[09:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> meatbun: let us know fi you need help.
[09:38] <meatbun> ok thx
[09:38] <LincoN^> llutz, /media/Lokal disk/hemtankat/Borderlands-RELOADED/rld-blns/rld-blns.iso
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  convert or use fuse tools
[09:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: here's an idea.
[09:38] <duffydack> ?
[09:38] <psycho_oreos> Dr_Willis, I was trying to prove a point with SpaceGhostC2C when he said he can mount .nrg and .cue/.bin files through a simple mount command.. and also make it appear as a virtual drive
[09:38] <psycho_oreos> Dr_Willis, which was what I highly doubted
[09:38] <llutz> LincoN^: sudo mount -o loop "/media/Lokal disk/hemtankat/Borderlands-RELOADED/rld-blns/rld-blns.iso" /mnt
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  they appear as a directory. Not a virtual drive
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  so thats a 'point' that may or may not matter
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> psycho_oreos:  dont expect copy protected games to work. :)
[09:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: I've done it. In linux you can't get it to appear like a cdrom. Learn how linux treats hardware.
[09:39] <psycho_oreos> Dr_Willis, it does matter to me
[09:39] <LincoN^> llutz, nothing happends in terminal, where should files end up?
[09:39] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, you can with cdemu
[09:39] <llutz> LincoN^: nothing = OK, "ls -l /mnt"
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> !info cdemu
[09:40] <llutz> LincoN^: your iso is mounted to /mnt now
[09:40] <ralph__> so i installed the linux drivers for my video card from the ATI website, but i still can't the "normal" or "Extra" visual effects to work.  Anyone have any idea what to do?
[09:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: why would I even care though? I can do a lot more with just using the superior "Everything in unix is a file" method.
[09:40] <psycho_oreos> SpaceGhostC2C, that's what I've said at least 3 times already, and it can handle exotic formats that usually mount can't handle with CD images apart from iso
[09:40] <LincoN^> how do i see /mnt llutz
[09:40] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: the previous link is good for getting squid running then you can look at this http://www.labtestproject.com/linnet/squid_block_address.html  which shows some other configuration steps
[09:40] <llutz> LincoN^:  "ls -l /mnt"
[09:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> psycho_oreos: I'm gonna drop it, feel free to argue with yourself.
[09:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: http://pastebin.com/ayGsakJx
[09:41] <LincoN^> http://pastebin.com/sYLUAbnF llutz
[09:41] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, there is also a channel #squid on freenode
[09:41] <llutz> LincoN^: thats your iso-content
[09:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: it's mounted.
[09:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: meet you in there?
[09:41] <LincoN^> how do i open files then?
[09:41] <llutz> LincoN^: and for further info on pirated stuff, ask the authors
[09:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: wine > LincoN^
[09:42] <SolarisBoy> afaik when you mount an iso to loop it shows like you have a cd on the desktop no?
[09:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> ubottu: piracy > LincoN^
[09:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: It shows like a folder.
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  it shows up as a 'directory' with the contents.
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  so not  quite the same
[09:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> SolarisBoy: if you have devices show up on your desktop, then yes.
[09:43] <LincoN^> yeah i know that, but where is the executable files? as where is the /mnt found?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> LincoN^:  open a file manager type in /mnt/ for the address and look at the stuff
[09:44] <LincoN^> tyvm :D
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> Linux 'path' basics :)
[09:44] <LincoN^> Dr_Willis, i just started ubuntu/linux :)
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> LincoN^:  time to learn some basics then i think
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> !training
[09:45] <^mNotIntelligent> Dr_Willis, can you please help me installing apache2 on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> !apache
[09:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: here's a pro-tip: don't try to use windows apps in linux, it's silly. We have a lot to use that you might love.
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> ^mNotIntelligent:  see the url the bot just gavve
[09:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: do you juse randomly query the bot for no reason?
[09:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: use pipes please.
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> SpaceGhostC2C:  if he used a nick without fancy chars i might of.. but i cent get to that key :)
[09:46] <LincoN^> SpaceGhostC2C, really? i just had this game file on the disk and i had nothing to do so i try to install it :)
[09:46] <Daniel_> Hi
[09:46] <^mNotIntelligent> Dr_Willis, i did it: sudo apt-get install apache2 ,,,but  getting errors saying the .deb pkg is not found ? nay idea ?
[09:46] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: sudo apt-get install apache should work at getting you 2.x
[09:46] <^mNotIntelligent> !hi | Daniel_
[09:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> Dr_Willis: you still typed it anywats :)
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> ^mNotIntelligent:  no idea. i would guess you did a typo
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> ^mNotIntelligent:  you may want to change your nick also to somthign more readable
[09:47] <ikonia> SpaceGhostC2C: STOP directing people
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> ^mNotIntelligent:  did you read the urls the bot gave?
[09:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> LincoN^: it's not a linux app, so I would say not to use it in linux. I wouldn't suggest using it, but if you want to use winedb to check if they got it working first.
[09:48] <^mNotIntelligent> Dr_Willis, i guess something else is the issue, b'coz when i type sudo apt-get install apache2, it show the various debs its going to install and the size, and asks for confirmation and the these errros comes up
[09:48] <^mNotIntelligent> Dr_Willis, I'm refering this: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[09:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> ikonia: I was informing him of pipes. I didn't direct him, I merely asked.
[09:49] <ikonia> SpaceGhostC2C: I'm not discussing this - I'm telling you
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> ^mNotIntelligent:  that guide says '6.06' that may  be a little old.
[09:49] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: still supported there
[09:49] <ikonia> though
[09:49] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: try sudo apt-get install apache
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> but package names may have changed
[09:49] <chunhui_> test
[09:49] <ikonia> !eol
[09:49] <chunhui_> hi
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> I dont use apache. :) so  thats about all i can sayon the topic
[09:50] <chunhui_> It works
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> chunhui_:  are you sure it worked?
[09:50] <ikonia> SpaceGhostC2C: please rejoin #ubuntu-ops
[09:50] <jamiewan_> Hi im using jaunty and my auto eth0 icon has dissapeared, i still have connection. can someone help how to retrieve it?
[09:50] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: i got apache2.2 on my last update from repos but im not 9.10 now
[09:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> ikonia: is there something you wish to discuss with me? Sure.
[09:50] <chunhui_> why I get a msg: "canno send to channel" at other channel?
[09:50] <SolarisBoy> s/not/on/
[09:51] <ikonia> yes
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> chunhui_:  its proberly a registered users only channel
[09:51] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, Dr_Willis : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/394594/
[09:51] <chunhui_> thanks, i got it
[09:52] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, i got the message: no candidate version found for apache when i did: sudo apt-get install apache
[09:53] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: try sudo apt-get update ; then apt-cache search apache and see whats there
[09:54] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, I'm on ubuntu 9.04...tried doing an update but the pkg list is too big and i dont want to do that big an installation.... its huge
[09:54] <Aza> ans
[09:54] <SolarisBoy> actually,, the problem is the repos not being hit ^mNotIntelligent i just read the pastie
[09:54] <Aza> spainnn
[09:54] <meowbuntu> SpaceGhostC2C, anyone here use squid on ubuntu
[09:54] <Aza> iḿ from spain
[09:54] <Aza> .-.
[09:54] <meowbuntu> anyone here use squid on ubuntu
[09:54] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, yes, that means the pkg is not avialable anaymore, right?
[09:55] <bazhang> aza /join #ubuntu-es
[09:55] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: what happend when you did sudo apt-get update?
[09:55] <Aza> ._.
[09:55] <Aza> gentee
[09:55] <Aza> hablais españoll???
[09:56] <bazhang> Aza, english here /join #ubuntu-es
[09:56] <overmind> !es | Aza
[09:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: there is excellent documentation online.
[09:58] <raven> strange thing with usb drive: tried to copy files to two different usb drives - created folder is there on both but the files are missing. what could be went wrong?
[09:58] <orb01> hey, I was wondering how I change the textfield input background color to white instead of black. It's different because I have the Oxygen theme enabled.
[09:59] <raven> strange thing with usb drive: tried to copy files to two different usb drives - created folder is there on both but the files are missing. what could be went wrong?
[09:59] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: no this is what happends when you can't contact the repository in your sources.list or under source.list.d
[09:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> raven: be patient. Ask every 15 minutes or so and you should be good.
[10:00] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, how could that be possible ?
[10:00] <shazbotmcnasty> raven, just re copy the files...
[10:00] <benni> Hi, is there a possibility to install ubuntu from an older version with using dist-upgrade? I don't have a CD, no usb boot support and no PXE
[10:00] <benni> without
[10:01] <overmind> raven: Have you tried doing "contr + h"? Maybe those files are hidden (surelly because they names start with a dot)
[10:01] <meowbuntu> SpaceGhostC2C, ok i am trying to find it
[10:01] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, I'm running an update and I guess its going to take hell of time.... and installation is pretty huge and unfortunately my net connections is slow today
[10:01] <ortsvorsteher> benni: yes, install an older version and try dist-upgrade, it is possible
[10:01] <Slart> benni: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to a new version.. there are other scripts for that
[10:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: I'll get you some links.
[10:01] <Slart> benni: what kind of system is it? you can't pull out the hard drive?
[10:02] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: thats odd i can get to it in my browser
[10:02] <benni> Slart, its an old P4 system from my uncle and I only have a netbook over here
[10:02] <Slart> benni: or you just want to avoid downloading the newest iso?
[10:02] <jamiewan_> Hi im using jaunty and my auto eth0 icon has dissapeared, i still have connection. can someone help on how to retrieve it?
[10:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> meowbuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid
[10:02] <benni> Slart, I have an usb stick with 9.10 on it, but well
[10:03] <desen> hi dudes. Pidgin issue: file transfer isn't working. I have a dynamic IP. I was thinking that i could open a FTP or HTTP port and let other upload/download files from a shared folder from my HDD. Is that possible ?
[10:03] <desen> others*
[10:03] <Slart> benni: ah.. I see.. well.. you could try upgrading but the earlier upgrades were a bit shaky (7.X and earlier)
[10:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> desen: baashare is what you're looking for.
[10:03] <jamiewan_> well i can only got to about half of my bookmarks for starters
[10:03] <benni> Slart, the box is running 7.04 :)
[10:03] <jamiewan_> sorry wron window
[10:03] <Slart> !upgrade | benni
[10:03] <Aza> alguien es de españaa
[10:03] <overmind> desen: Pidgin file transfer protocol uses different ports than msn's
[10:04] <Aza> alguien habal español
[10:04] <Lego> yo si
[10:04] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: yes update and try to install again your lists are old the versions were updated
[10:04] <Aza> olaapp
[10:04] <bazhang> Aza, this is english only
[10:04] <Lego> si
[10:04] <bazhang> Aza, /join #ubuntu-es
[10:04] <desen> overmind, SpaceGhostC2C: using Yahoo protocol
[10:04] <Aza> estoi con el  portatil del colegio
[10:04] <Slart> benni: there are upgrade tools available.. but I remember people having problems with them.. not sure which version they were using but I figured I might just throw that warning out ther
[10:04] <salva_> hello
[10:04] <Lego> aza yo soy español
[10:04] <Aza> olap
[10:04] <Aza> y yo
[10:04] <Aza> xD
[10:04] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2-utils_2.2.11-2ubuntu2.6_amd64.deb vs apache2-utils_2.2.11-2ubuntu2.5_i386.deb is what your apt is trying to still use
[10:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> desen: the protocol doesn't matter if you want them to be able to just send you files or serve up a file. Look at bashare
[10:05] <Aza> a vee si se callan los americanos estos
[10:05] <Seveas> !es | Lego, Aza
[10:05] <Aza> xDD
[10:05] <benni> Slart, thank you, I even have an original 9.10 here but it doesn't work, sometime i get buffer errors, other times  alogin screen for the live cd, never had this
[10:05] <desen> thanx, SpaceGhostC2C
[10:05] <Lego> aza ¿lo has tunning?
[10:05] <Aza> tunning??
[10:06] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, in my case apt is trying to install the 2nd one
[10:06] <Aza> Q cosa mas rara
[10:06] <orb01> hey, I was wondering how I change the textfield input background color to white instead of black. It's different because I have the Oxygen theme enabled.
[10:06] <Lego> soy cool X
[10:06] <bazhang> Lego, english only here
[10:06] <ardchoille> Thank you bazhang
[10:06] <Lego> LO HAS MODIFICADO
[10:06] <bazhang> Lego, /join #ubuntu-es
[10:06] <dstaubsauger> Lego: try #ubuntu-es
[10:06] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: the update completed and you have tried again?
[10:07] <Seveas> orb01, change the theme :-)
[10:07] <Lego> aza estas ahi?
[10:07] <bazhang> Lego, no he is gone. /join #ubuntu-es
[10:07] <dstaubsauger> Lego: espanol -> /join #ubuntu-es
[10:07] <orb01> Seveas, it should be customizable then?
[10:08] <Seveas> orb01, you'll need to edit its source probably
[10:08] <Mohammad[B]> i need a chat software for my Linux VPS for chatting with my VPS active users, like write but look like to a messenger ... can u help me ?
[10:08] <orb01> Seveas, oki :) thanks
[10:08] <gregor_> HI i need help with webcam and tv tuner. Webcam is Philips SPC 200NC, drivers are found by ubuntu. Camera works well with cheese and on test with command gstreamer propperties. However it does not work with skype. am i doing something wrong? also i can't seem to use it with empathy on yahoo account.
[10:08] <Seveas> Mohammad[B], why not use irc?
[10:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> Mohammad[B]: you can use talk or jabberd or irc..
[10:08] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, nopes...as i said update is pretty big.....i think its going to take quite a lot of time .... will get back to you later if I it dint work even after this update....appreciate ur help
[10:08] <Aza> gente me echabais de menos?
[10:08] <Aza> ya lo se
[10:08] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: no problem
[10:09] <bazhang> Aza, english only here
[10:09] <Seveas> bazhang, time for some more permanent remedies :-)
[10:09] <Mohammad[B]> Seveas, SpaceGhostC2C, some times we cant connect to IRC i want that is in my VPS
[10:09] <hacker_kid> i have a pdf that wont print more than a few pages at a time, im using document viewer and i get the printing bar showing me which page is printing, after 15 or so it gets very very slow (3 pages per minute or so) and shortly after the application grays out and must be killed
[10:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> Mohammad[B]: you can run your own IRC server
[10:09] <Aza> illoo
[10:09] <Seveas> Mohammad[B], install an ircd on your machine and have the virtual machines connect to it
[10:09] <orb01> Another question. Is there a nice gui tool for me to get regular 8th inch microphones working?
[10:09] <Lego> aza qantos años tiens?
[10:09] <overmind> Mohammad[B]: Try installing hybrid-ircd and hybrserv packages :)
[10:10] <Aza> yo??
[10:10] <Aza> 12
[10:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> tsario
[10:10] <Mohammad[B]> overmind, this is for IRC server ?
[10:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> Mohammad[B]: yes.
[10:10] <Aza> y tu?
[10:10] <ardchoille> bazhang: Clearly they aren't listening
[10:10] <Lego> 0
[10:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> Aza: no
[10:10] <Mohammad[B]> ok, thanks
[10:10] <Seveas> !ops | Aza and Lego aren't listening to suggestions to move to #ubuntu-es
[10:11] <Aza> k es esta cosa :o
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> no hablo
[10:12] <brjann> hacker_kid: I have that happen sometimes when CUPS (the printer daemon) is trying to spool intricate graphics, especially in PDFs. anything like that in your document?
[10:13] <Guest32890> Alguien spanish?
[10:13] <hacker_kid> brjann, yeah... any other reader prints fine but nothing except adobe can print even/odd only, and i need to manually duplex
[10:13] <ortsvorsteher> !es | Guest32890
[10:13] <hacker_kid> brjann, and i have a clean record of 100% open source software on this box, i dont want to tarnish it if i dont have to
[10:13] <^mNotIntelligent> !es | Guest32890
[10:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> hacker_kid: if you have adobe anythign on it, it isn't open souece.
[10:14] <srini> what does mean apt-mirror? and how to configure on ubuntu?
[10:14] <brjann> hacker_kid: understandable. I haven't found a particular solution to that problem, but I have noticed that most of the time, even if the window grays out, it's still working, and will eventually finish. it just seems to really have to think about those graphics.
[10:14] <hacker_kid> SpaceGhostC2C, im aware of that, i was stating that other than adobe document viewer is the only pdf reader i have found that can print either odd or even pages, i do not have adobe installed
[10:15] <Guest32890> sta christiam d 5 primaria d huelva?
[10:15] <mh99> sometux: \o
[10:15] <Guest32890> alguien español?
[10:15] <mh99> sometux: you are a great person!
[10:15] <hacker_kid> brjann, alright, thats encouraging at least... i will leave it to print overnight and hopefully have a few pages in the morning... i guess i am asking too much for it to process 600+ pages at the drop of a hat
[10:15] <overmind> No here
[10:16] <sometux> mh99: thankx
[10:16] <Guest32890> alguien mexicano?
[10:16] <raven> shazbotmcnasty, recopying the files is a problem because i verified they are copied and then deleted the rest but now i cannot see any file also in lowlevel rescue scanning - what is going on there??
[10:16] <raven> overmind, yes i tested - the files are not hidden as well
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> unmount
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> remount - cd into the directory
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> do "ls"
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> if you can't see them do "ls -a"
[10:17] <Guest32890> Everyone no spanish or mexican?
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> then you will PROBABLY see them, and can access them
[10:17] <bazhang> Guest32890, not here
[10:17] <shazbotmcnasty> !spanish Guest32890
[10:18] <overmind> !offtopic | Guest32890
[10:18] <bazhang> Guest32890, join #ubuntu-es
[10:18] <shazbotmcnasty> !spanish | Guest32890
[10:18] <brjann> hacker_kid: with a document of that size, it may be also be waiting for the printer to catch up some before it spools more. But I'm not sure.
[10:19] <hacker_kid> brjann, hehe alright, i guess i shouldnt be so darn long winded XD
[10:20] <mariobros> alguien español?
[10:21] <bazhang> mariobros, here is English /join #ubuntu-es
[10:21] <overmind> What's happening with spanish' guys today?
[10:21] <mariobros> are cool
[10:22] <mariobros> rgdgdg
[10:23] <bazhang> mariobros, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[10:23] <shazbotmcnasty> how do I computer?
[10:23] <shazbotmcnasty> j/k
[10:23] <bazhang> shazbotmcnasty, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, i did the update and now doing the installation of apache2.... hope it'll work fine...thanks a lot
[10:24] <shazbotmcnasty> no thanks, I'm just waiting for someone to ask something that I can help with
[10:24] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: cool let me know what happends =)
[10:25] <motaka2> heelo i cant delete some files from my flash memory, saying " chmod: changing permissions of `/media/disk/.Trash-1000.exe': Read-only file system "   when i sudo chmod -R 777 /media/
[10:26] <p1gmale0n> how to setup ntp without transfer time ??
[10:26] <pfifo> your trash-1000 is an .exe?
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> motaka2:  you proberly dont want to chmode /media/   also
[10:26] <motaka2> pfifo: yes,
[10:27] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: it looks like the device mounted on /media/disk is mounted read only
[10:27] <llutz> motaka2: " Read-only file system "    remount it rw before
[10:27] <uber35> hello there
[10:27] <meowbuntu> hi i have installed a .deb package from cli (terminal) where has it installed to
[10:28] <llutz> meowbuntu: dpkg -L packagename-you-installed
[10:28] <pfifo> meowbuntu, should have installed on /
[10:28] <meowbuntu> its not in temp or ~/downloads
[10:28] <motaka2> so tell me what should i do so i can delete the directories on it?
[10:28] <^mNotIntelligent> SolarisBoy, "it works" :-) thanks again
[10:28] <SolarisBoy> ^mNotIntelligent: awesome =)
[10:28] <SolarisBoy> p1gmale0n: ntp without transfer time?
[10:29] <uber35> I have a problem with wireshark, the network analyzer... When I start it with root privileges, it hangs my PC badly :(
[10:29] <motaka2> llutz: look i remount it, but seems it is yet read only
[10:29] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: this is a windows fs no?
[10:29] <llutz> motaka2: hardware write-protected?
[10:29] <^mNotIntelligent> meowbuntu, the binaries generally gets copied to /bin , /sbin etc
[10:30] <mariobros> Alguen español?
[10:30] <^mNotIntelligent> ! es | mariobros
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: llutz that also happends when its a windows fs that has a dirty flag on it and needs to be shutdown cleanly or chkdsk from M$
[10:31] <llutz> SolarisBoy: then mount would give an error and refuse to mount
[10:31] <motaka2> llutz: SolarisBoy  i dont know the answer to your questions, but i connect this flash sometimes to windows too
[10:31] <meowbuntu> stuff this i am trying to install clamav
[10:31] <meowbuntu> erors its so hard y
[10:31] <SolarisBoy> llutz: hmm
[10:31] <llutz> meowbuntu: "dpkg -L packagename-you-installed"
[10:32] <motaka2> llutz: is there a soloution?
[10:33] <llutz> motaka2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /your/mount/point
[10:33] <llutz> motaka2: and btw, if it is ntfs, you cannot use chown
[10:34] <llutz> motaka2: "man mount"  (uid/gid, fmask/dmas) for valid mount-options
[10:34] <motaka2> donkarlo@donkarlo-desktop:~$ motaka2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/disk/
[10:34] <llutz> dmask
[10:34] <motaka2> bash: motaka2:: command not found
[10:34] <motaka2> llutz: since i am a newbie i dont understand you at all
[10:34] <meowbuntu> calm av says there si a new gui where how do i get it
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> motaka2:  look at the command you ran... notice the typo?
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> motaka2:  hint.. you pasted your IRC nick. :)
[10:35] <llutz> motaka2: sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /your/mount/point
[10:35] <SolarisBoy> remove your username motaka2  "sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/disk/"
[10:35] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: only whats  in quotes there =)
[10:35] <motaka2> oh yeah i got it
[10:37] <motaka2> SolarisBoy: Dr_Willis  no not yet, i cant remove sthem
[10:38] <motaka2> SolarisBoy: llutz  it says "Error removing file: Read-only file system" when i try to delete a dir
[10:38] <llutz> motaka2: still mounted ro
[10:38] <SolarisBoy> sounds like the fs has errors...
[10:38] <llutz> !ntfs >motaka2: "man mount"  (uid/gid, fmask/dmas) for valid mount-options
[10:39] <motaka2> llutz: what should i do with it then?
[10:39] <sammm> hey, does anyone in here use XChat?
[10:39] <llutz> motaka2: sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /your/mount/point
[10:39] <motaka2> llutz: i dont understand you
[10:39] <llutz> motaka2:  /your/mount/point    replace this
[10:39] <srini> how to setup apt-mirror on ubuntu?
[10:40] <llutz> motaka2: for some basics, please consider reading things like http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/
[10:40] <researcher1> when I run ls command the list of file scroll above. How can I get in 1 screen all files list
[10:40] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: 'sudo mount -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /media/disk'
[10:40] <mariobros> alguien español?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  ls | more
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> researcher1:  ls | less
[10:40] <researcher1> thanks
[10:41] <motaka2> SolarisBoy: llutz  no no no, it doesnt work
[10:41] <disasterous_inst> can anyone tell me what the command is to see the md5sum for a file?
[10:41] <pfifo> md5sum
[10:41] <SolarisBoy> motaka can you try this 'sudo mount -f -o remount,rw,uid=1000 /media/disk' ?
[10:42] <researcher1> is it possible to uninstall Ubuntu server
[10:42] <disasterous_inst> pfifo: it keeps telling me no such file or directory
[10:42] <azroon> hi
[10:43] <stenogriz> hi all!
[10:43] <pfifo> disasterous_inst, are you running md5sum on a non-existant file or is the file md5sum not found?
[10:43] <motaka2> SolarisBoy: no, it doesnt
[10:44] <disasterous_inst> pfifo: no, it's telling me that the file im trying to get the md5sum of doesnt exist
[10:44] <hl_99> hey, is there any way i can retrieve the wireless lan pw that is already saved in my system?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> disasterous_inst:  whats the comp-lete command you are using?
[10:44] <acicula> researcher1: you cant uninstall partitions  like programs, bar just wiping the partition it resides on
[10:44] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: one second
[10:44] <azroon> ok, i got a laptop with ati mobility hd3650, selected driver from system>administration>hardware drivers, clicked enable, then rebooted to a blank screen with flashing caps lock - what now? ubuntu 9.10
[10:44] <disasterous_inst> Dr_Willis: md5sum <file>
[10:45] <Sandraa> hola
[10:45] <Sandraa> hello
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> disasterous_inst:  err.. You are using the actual FILE NAME instead of <file> ?
[10:45] <Sandraa> helllo
[10:45] <disasterous_inst> Dr_Willis: yes
[10:45] <disasterous_inst> Dr_Willis: im using the actual filename
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> thats why i asked for the exact filename.. YOu are proberly doing a typo
[10:45] <Sandraa> I am not spiking in inglish
[10:45] <acicula> !es
[10:45] <Sandraa> ESPAÑOL!
[10:45] <Sandraa> pliis
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> !es | Sandraa
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> md5sum foo.iso        works for me
[10:46] <disasterous_inst> md5sum pfSense
[10:46] <azroon> anyone//??
[10:46] <disasterous_inst> Dr_Willis: md5sum pfSense
[10:46] <acicula> azroon: boot into the rescue mode and try reconfiguring the xserver from there
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> what does 'file pfSence' say then?
[10:47] <iceroot> disasterous_inst: ls -l pfSense
[10:47] <disasterous_inst> Dr_Willis: I'm using tab-complete
[10:47] <underdev> hi- i unnstalled something, and my ubuntu has been.. quirky.. ever since.  Ubuntu is now not detecting external usb storage media.  It detects my USB wireless nic fine, but neither my HD or my mp3 player.
[10:47] <acicula> and dont reenable the binary ati driver :/
[10:47] <azroon> talk in boon lang plz
[10:47] <azroon> noob*
[10:47] <acicula> underdev: using an usb hub?
[10:47] <disasterous_inst> Dr_Willis: it's saying it doesnt exist too
[10:47] <underdev> acicula: no, the ports on the Motherboard
[10:47] <iceroot> disasterous_inst: ls -l pfSense
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> disasterous_inst:  you got somthing weird going on.
[10:48] <acicula> underdev: there is some hal addon storage process that takes care of mounting usb drives, but forgot what its called exactly
[10:48] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: 'sudo mount -o force /media/disk'
[10:48] <acicula> what did you remove?
[10:48] <disasterous_inst> sorry forgot to add the extension, sorry about that
[10:48] <azroon> in the recovery menu there is: resume, clean, dpkg, grub, netroot, root
[10:48] <acicula> dpkg soons good
[10:48] <motaka2> SolarisBoy: donkarlo@donkarlo-desktop:~$ sudo mount -o force /media/disk
[10:48] <motaka2> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/disk busy
[10:48] <motaka2> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/disk
[10:48] <motaka2> donkarlo@donkarlo-desktop:~$
[10:48] <FloodBot3> motaka2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <acicula> does it say what that does?
[10:49] <azroon> what do i select
[10:49] <azroon> ?
[10:49] <azroon> in the recovery menu there is: resume, clean, dpkg, grub, netroot, root
[10:49] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: right 'sudo umount /media/disk && mount -o force /media/disk'
[10:49] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: correction 'sudo umount /media/disk && sudo mount -o force /media/disk'
[10:49] <underdev> i removed kttsd, i think.  it took out my printer configuration from my System->admin menu
[10:50] <acicula> azroon: whats the description for dpkg
[10:50] <puser> OK, if anybody is interested, I figured out the problem with mic in Skype.
[10:50] <underdev> but i was guided from here to get that back
[10:50] <palma> holaa
[10:50] <azroon> dpkg: repair broken pakages
[10:50] <puser> I had to uncheck: Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels
[10:50] <azroon> packages
[10:50] <palma> helloo
[10:51] <puser> because, when it was checked, Skype was changing the mic levels too low.
[10:51] <motaka2> SolarisBoy: donkarlo@donkarlo-desktop:~$ sudo umount /media/disk && sudo mount -o force /media/disk
[10:51] <motaka2> mount: can't find /media/disk in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:51] <palma> how are you??
[10:51] <motaka2> donkarlo@donkarlo-desktop:~$
[10:51] <sammm> thanks for that puser. I've had the same problem!
[10:51] <acicula> azroon: hmm thats not it then
[10:51] <azroon> root: drop to root shell prompt?
[10:51] <acicula> azroon: you could drop to a shell and try to remove the graphic driver form the root shell prompt
[10:52] <azroon> ok
[10:52] <palma> helo!!
[10:52] <acicula> not sure what the command for that is though
[10:52] <azroon> what do i type?
[10:52] <azroon> o
[10:52] <azroon> anyone know?
[10:52] <pfifo> !hola | palma
[10:52] <acicula> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:52] <palma> I from Spain and you?
[10:52] <pfifo> palma, im located at <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:52] <palma> holaa
[10:52] <palma> tu eres español??
[10:53] <acicula> that may set the xserver back to the default, but not sure if you first have to remove the ati driver
[10:53] <acicula> !es | palma
[10:53] <SolarisBoy> motaka2: then after you unmount it with 'sudo umount /media/disk' given the device is /dev/sdb1 do.. 'sudo mount -o force /dev/sdb1 /media/disk'
[10:53] <Guest91187> hi, i want to find out where is my optical drive located, like for example, my HDD is on /dev/sda. how do i do that ?
[10:53] <acicula> palma: pfifo please speak english in this channel
[10:53] <palma> esk todo el mundo habla en ingles por eso
[10:53] <palma> jaja
[10:53] <palma> ok
[10:53] <underdev> when i "sudo fdisk -l", no usb storage media is detected?
[10:53] <palma> I love speak in english
[10:54] <acicula> underdev: does the device show via lsusb
[10:54] <palma> How are you??
[10:54] <pfifo> acicula, I do.
[10:54] <acicula> palma: this is a support channel, for non-ubuntu questions use ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <puser> sammm: you are welcome
[10:55] <palma> ok
[10:55] <acicula> or #defocus
[10:55] <Slart> underdev: I see my usb devices when I run "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:55] <brjann> Guest91187: at the command line, try     dmesg | grep 'Attached'
[10:56] <azroon> nope
[10:56] <azroon> still blank screen
[10:56] <underdev> acicula: there is a Bus 002 Device 002: "microsoft..."  <-- this may very well be my external HD
[10:56] <palma> is very funny this channel I don't see this channel
[10:56] <eradicus> anyone who encountered IRC programs such as x-chat 2.8.6 being blocked upon upgrading to Karmic?
[10:56] <underdev> acicula: its probably ntfs
[10:56] <palma> haha
[10:56] <acicula> underdev: post a little bit more(pastebin)
[10:56] <Slart> palma: type  /join #ubuntu-offtopic     and you should get there
[10:56] <azroon> any other ideas acicula
[10:57] <acicula> !xorg
[10:57] <acicula> hmm
[10:57] <Guest91187> brjann, thanks that works :) anyway, is there any ther way like fdisk -l to list my dvd drive ?
[10:58] <brjann> Guest91187: for what purpose? CDs and DVDs don't have the same layouts as hard disks do
[10:58] <acicula> azroon: remove the xorg-driver-fglrx package from the console via apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[10:58] <acicula> that should remove the ati driver too
[10:58] <azroon> kk sec
[10:58] <underdev> acicula: pastie.org/867701
[10:58] <palma> Sorry I did not speak very well English, Spanish is that I am truly sorry
[10:59] <acicula> not really sure if thats the proper way but it should force the driver off the system
[10:59] <Guest91187> brjann, i mean other way to check where the dvd drive is located besides using 'grep'.
[10:59] <acicula> underdev: in dmesg it will tell you what drives are assigned
[11:00] <acicula> underdev: hubs are not disks though
[11:00] <SolarisBoy> Guest91187: ls -l /dev/cdrom* ?
[11:00] <brjann> Guest91187: well, typically the kernel drivers just symlink it to /dev/cdrom
[11:00] <palma> I love this channel
[11:00] <martien> is this channel for help on Ubuntu?
[11:00] <underdev> acicula: ty, i will dig through the dmesg info
[11:01] <acicula> underdev: if you unplug and replug the device the last few dmesg lines will hold what you are looking for
[11:01] <Gnea> martien: it is
[11:01] <natediddy> martien, uh yes
[11:01] <palma> thanks acicula FOR HELP BEFORE
[11:01] <martien> Two days ago I installed Xubuntu
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> Guest91187:  ls -l /dev/dvd  perhaps
[11:01] <martien> I have noticed Python is already installed
[11:02] <palma> hha
[11:02] <martien> but it s not in the <Application> <Development> tree of the menu
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> martien:  python is normally preinstalled.  yes.
[11:02] <martien> what happened?
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> martien:  python dosent hafe a gui.
[11:02] <Gnea> palma: you may find #ubuntu-es to be a better channel for you
[11:02] <natediddy> anything i have to do to install a .deb file???????
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> martien:  programs that USE pythom may have a gui
[11:02] <Guest91187> SolarisBoy & brjann, aha! that helps. many thanks for you guys.. i was looking the easiest way to remember :D
[11:03] <Gnea> natediddy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> natediddy:  double click on it.. or use 'sudo dpkg -i what3ever.deb'
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> Guest91187: np
[11:03] <natediddy> ok thanx
[11:03] <acicula> natediddy: dpkg -i, but best to stick to packages available via the repository
[11:03] <azroon> acicula ubuntu is now running in low graphics mode fine but we need graphic drivers for the ati mobility 3650
[11:03] <martien> Like IDLE?
[11:03] <azroon> ^^
[11:03] <palma> I came with my the notebook
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> martien: yes python is a scripting language wouldn't come with a gui
[11:03] <Guest91187> Dr_Willis, thanks that give me the same output as the /dev/cdrom
[11:03] <acicula> azroon: the open source drivers should give you better resolution?
[11:04] <martien> ok. So I was looking for something that isn't there
[11:04] <azroon> how can i get those? =p
[11:04] <acicula> rerun the xserver reconfiguration
[11:04] <acicula> not sure really :) sec
[11:04] <azroon> how do i do that? rofls
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> Guest91187:  so... it says what then?
[11:04] <Guest91187> Dr_Willis, sr0
[11:05] <Gnea> palma: ya que no entiende muy bien el Inglés, # ubuntu-es podría ser un lugar que usted puede entender el español.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Guest91187:  there ya go.. your optial drive is /dev/sr0
[11:05] <palma> well sorry but I finish de work
[11:05] <palma> bye
[11:05] <Guest91187> Dr_Willis, yup :D
[11:05] <SolarisBoy> martien: yep,, you can open a terminal window and type 'python -v' for version and you can type simply 'python' which is interactive,, there you can type help() if you are looking for some info or interface with python
[11:05] <acicula> azroon:  sudo apt-get purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-kernel-source xorg-driver-fglrx-dev to make sure the fglrx is not interfering,
[11:06] <theegg> acicula insert remove
[11:06] <acicula> ah yeah that would help
[11:06] <acicula> just going off the wiki here
[11:06] <acicula> and then reconfigure the xserver with   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:07] <underdev> acicula: pastie.org/867701
[11:08] <underdev> it sees my mp3 player
[11:08] <underdev> but doesn't mount it
[11:08] <acicula> underdev: [ 2830.117714]  sdc: sdc1
[11:09] <acicula> underdev: you probably killed off the automounter somehow or the system cant mount the fs on the mp3 player?
[11:09] <john> alguien español
[11:09] <acicula> !mount
[11:09] <john> ??????????????
[11:09] <acicula> !es | john
[11:10] <underdev> acicula: it could read the fs on the mp3 player before.  I am quite confident its something in the automounter chain that's fubared... is there anything i can do about it?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> ive had so many issues with the gvfs automounter  - i just mount thins by hand most of the time
[11:11] <azroon> acicula didnt work
[11:11] <azroon> said fglrx or something didnt excist
[11:11] <SolarisBoy> underdev: do you see the device by brand in 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' ?
[11:11] <brutus> Hi...whenever I edit fstab to include mounting my ntfs (C drive) partition at startup, my machine becomes manifold slower (because of mount.ntfs) process as shown with top....how do I solve this?
[11:12] <azroon> we are back in root
[11:12] <azroon> what should i type?
[11:12] <underdev> SolarisBoy: yes
[11:12] <underdev> SolarisBoy: ITS THERE!!
[11:13] <underdev> and the western digital external HD too
[11:13] <ksbalaji> sorry= I tinkered with video and now my panels are gone! how to display them again please?!
[11:13] <SolarisBoy> ok
[11:13] <ksbalaji> mine=hardy 8.04 - help restore panels.
[11:13] <acicula> azroon: didnt you have graphics working again?
[11:14] <acicula> rerun the
[11:14] <azroon> we did
[11:14] <SolarisBoy> underdev: is there an entry for sdc1 in fstab?
[11:14] <azroon> in low gfx mode
[11:14] <azroon> we typed the commands
[11:14] <acicula> xorg reconfiguration
[11:14] <azroon> then rebooted
[11:14] <FloodBot3> azroon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <acicula> and try booting back into the grahic environment
[11:14] <azroon> and its still in low gfx mode
[11:14] <acicula> did you have a low res gfx mode before?
[11:14] <azroon> wont let me =p
[11:14] <azroon> yup
[11:14] <SolarisBoy> underdev: 'grep sdc1 /etc/fstab'
[11:15] <acicula> azroon: well at least we coverred one hurdle
[11:15] <meowbuntu> http://www.howtoforge.com/dansguardian-content-filtering-with-transparent-proxy-on-ubuntu-9.10-karmic
[11:15] <meowbuntu> now i need to configure how to send reports to my friend
[11:15] <acicula> azroon: for some reason the open source drivers(that give you better resolution) dont appear to be enabled
[11:15] <azroon> thats what caused the probs i think
[11:15] <palma> Hello
[11:16] <azroon> do you enable them in system>administration> hardware drivers?
[11:16] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: nice work did you get it set up to the point its ready to send mails =) ...
[11:16] <meowbuntu> probably i followed that site to the end it was verry easy
[11:16] <azroon> because we enabled them, and thats when it booted into a blank screen with a flashing caps lock light
[11:16] <meowbuntu> hi i now have squid set up on ubuntu 9.10 with dansguardian and clamav.
[11:16] <azroon> aesdfh gjkn,
[11:16] <azroon> ops
[11:16] <azroon> cat
[11:16] <palma> I finish work
[11:16] <ksbalaji> mine is asus P5KPL-AM board running hardy 8.04 = Help me restore desktop panels! please
[11:17] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, do you know how to set that up
[11:17] <azroon> q.saklr
[11:17] <azroon> 5
[11:17] <azroon> stupid dick friend
[11:17] <Gnea> ksbalaji: what desktop panels? you mean on top/bottom?
[11:17] <acicula> azroon: there are two versions , open source and binary ati drivers
[11:17] <acicula> ok please leave azroon
[11:17] <overmind> !panels | ksbalaji
[11:17] <devdz> is it possible i open a directory in a window like for exp: /etc/default/  .. but using shell commands
[11:17] <azroon> why
[11:17] <ksbalaji> Gnea, yes. I tinkered with video and lost panels
[11:18] <azroon> the spam was my friend being a dick not you
[11:18] <acicula> what you typed is inapropriate and offensive
[11:18] <Gnea> acicula: no need to misinterpret right off the bat
[11:18] <palma> Who live in Spain??
[11:18] <azroon> how is dick offensive?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> devdz:  nautilus /path/to/open
[11:18] <azroon> its a name aswell
[11:18] <acicula> !language
[11:18] <erUSUL> palma: me
[11:19] <svenn> hey everyone: )
[11:19] <azroon> well if i didnt say it u would have gone off at me for spam
[11:19] <erUSUL> !es | palma
[11:19] <ginbuntu> why is Ubuntu server 9.10 so buggy?
[11:19] <palma> erusul:ok and me
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[11:19] <meowbuntu> anyone using squid i need to configure it for sending email reports
[11:19] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: use google to look for how tos on setting up alert mails from squid or the likes,, also at least configure your sendmail client to use a relay and set a cron to cat /path/to/squid.logs | mailx -s "Squid Logs"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>every so often
[11:19] <svenn> i have a filesystem problem when trying to install ubuntu 9.1
[11:19] <ginbuntu> I installed Ubuntu server 9.10 did a system update and now the machine doesn't even boot
[11:19] <azroon> soooo how do i get binary ati drivers?
[11:19] <jrib> !ati > azroon
[11:19] <ginbuntu> it hangs at /dev/sda1: clean
[11:19] <azroon> oki
[11:19] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy, i use google webmail
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> in gnome , nautilus asks for a password when I try to access other partitions , and then I can copy paste files there , how to do the same with dolphin
[11:19] <ksbalaji> overmind, tried but panels not to be seen!
[11:20] <Gnea> ksbalaji: can you open a terminal?
[11:20] <palma> Who live in England?
[11:20] <ikonia> why ?
[11:20] <malic> Can i copy my home folder to an external drive and access it with a mac? Or are there problems with the rights?
[11:20] <erUSUL> !ot | palma
[11:20] <Gnea> ksbalaji: er, can you logout/login?
[11:20] <ksbalaji> Gnea, yes. That is how I now opened xchat.!
[11:20] <SolarisBoy> meowbuntu: perfect you can configure sendmail to send to your account
[11:20] <overmind> !offtopic | palma
[11:21] <azroon> acicula?
[11:21] <ksbalaji> Gnea, I do not know. I have to switch off!
[11:21] <Gnea> ksbalaji: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:21] <ksbalaji> I now use alt+ctl+back!
[11:21] <john> alguien s español o mejicano
[11:21] <ksbalaji> but where are the panels please?
[11:21] <erUSUL> !es | john
[11:21] <meowbuntu> sol i have been looking for 15 mins on how to send emails from squid without any luck
[11:21] <devdz> Dr_Willis, thanks :)
[11:21] <palma> urusul: do you like my friend
[11:21] <svenn> Anyone can tell me how to format current HD's and format them so ubuntu can install on them ?
[11:21] <Gnea> ksbalaji: login again and the panels should be there
[11:22] <ikonia> svenn: the installer will do that for you
[11:22] <ksbalaji> ok . Gnea let me try.
[11:22] <svenn> it doesn't :(
[11:22] <Slart> !dontzap
[11:22] <svenn> it says there is a file problem
[11:22] <azroon> acicula will you quit being a girl i said 'dick' get over it ;)
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> svenn:  the custome install option in the installer can let you partition/format the hds how you want.
[11:22] <svenn> then i log on in the live cd
[11:22] <palma> Urusul: Do you like my friend plis??
[11:22] <ikonia> svenn: it does, when you partition it, it will have a check box next to "format"
[11:22] <Gnea> azroon: no need to continue.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> svenn:  or use gparted on a live cd
[11:22] <lahmas> Lol, a trojan hijacked my windows explorer.exe - you don't know how I'm installing ubuntu next week...
[11:22] <john> alguien es español?
[11:22] <ikonia> azroon: drop that attitude now, and control the language
[11:22] <svenn> thx, ill try gparted
[11:22] <Slart> !es | john
[11:23] <erUSUL> palma: ¿? this is not a social chanel.
[11:23] <svenn> what type of file system is suited for ubuntu ?
[11:23] <meowbuntu> SolarisBoy,  i have been looking for 15 mins on how to send emails from squid without any luck
[11:23] <palma> Urusul: I haven't got a friend that speak in english
[11:23] <erUSUL> svenn: ext4
[11:23] <ikonia> svenn: ext3 or ext4 is the default, again the installer will deal with this
[11:23] <underdev> SolarisBoy: okay, the external HD is not being detected, but the player is
[11:23] <ikonia> palma: try the channel #defocus
[11:24] <malic> Can i copy my home folder to an external drive and access it with a mac? Or are there problems with the rights?
[11:24] <erUSUL> palma: go to #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[11:24] <underdev> SolarisBoy: no, the grep against /etc/fstab has no sdc1
[11:24] <ksbalaji> Gnea, no use: gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel ()gnome-panel: no process killed
[11:24] <ikonia> malic: permissions won't be a problem, but file system compatability will be
[11:24] <erUSUL> malic: i do not think MAcOSX can access ext* filesystems
[11:24] <john> alguien habla español?
[11:24] <palma> yooo
[11:24] <Slart> malic: permissions won't trouble you if you access the files from another system.. they only apply on the ubuntu system
[11:24] <ikonia> palma: stop now please
[11:24] <Gnea> ksbalaji: ok try "gnome-panel" instead of "killall gnome-panel"
[11:24] <palma> hola JONH
[11:25] <malic> Slart..why not? i thaught its also possible to access ext* filesystems with windows (with special drivers)
[11:25] <svenn> ikonia i got this dutch error : "er is geen basisbestandssysteem gedefinieerd"
[11:25] <ikonia> malic: you said mac - not windows
[11:25] <acicula> azroon: i consider your behaviour abrasive and rude so i will not help you further no
[11:25] <malic> yes ikonia.. my new notebool will be a mac..
[11:25] <ikonia> azroon: drop it please
[11:26] <ikonia> malic: ok - so why are you referncing what windows can do
[11:26] <Slart> malic: if you set some permission on a file in ubuntu and then reboot to windows/mac/another linux distro and access the file from there it should ignore the permissions