[05:39] <silv3r_m00n> let me check
[05:39] <silv3r_m00n> Flannel: no .. that is too light
[05:39] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: try Droid Sans perhaps
[05:40] <silv3r_m00n> let me check
[05:40] <Flannel> silv3r_m00n: or Bitstream Vera Sans
[05:41] <silv3r_m00n> Flannel: bitstream vera sans resembles this one ... but not perfectly this
[05:42] <TomH1973> No Luck the cd will Not play and it it a regular audio cd
[05:42] <nst>  in the terminal   alsamixer >F5  There is no "Master"
[05:43] <addisson> TomH: HammerHead stepped out for a few mins.  Be right back
[05:43] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: any download link for droid sans
[05:43] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: found it
[05:43] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: its in the repo's. Install the ttf-droid package
[05:43] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: okay
[05:44] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: that's good
[05:44] <Zallik> how do i get X working?
[05:44] <Zallik> it keeps telling me it cannot start
[05:44] <ziroday> Zallik: exact error message?
[05:44] <TomH1973> No sound
[05:45] <nst> success
[05:45] <Zallik> x: cannot stat /ect/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting
[05:45] <W473D> how do you send the out put from a terminal to a txt file. when i run netstat it over flows the terminal and i cant scroll to the top how can i get around that?
[05:45] <newmember> When running atop what is the good number for DSK access?
[05:45] <addisson> TomH: could you try playing the CD in dragon player?
[05:45] <newmember> what is a bad number for DSK access?
[05:45] <Zallik> W473D add > file.txt
[05:46] <Zallik> as in ls >txtfilewithstuff.txt
[05:46] <ziroday> Zallik: err does your /etc/X11 dir exist?
[05:46] <Zallik> hmmm....
[05:46] <nocive_> g'night all
[05:46] <TomH1973> I don't have Dragon I just started Using Ubuntu
[05:47] <listar> it doesn't matter
[05:47] <nocive_> anyone has a clevo laptop? I have a Clevo M860TU with no /proc/acpi/video files, as a result I have no display brightness control and no console tty terminals. Any help appreciated :)
[05:47] <TomH1973> Should I just download wine and install Gnome Player
[05:47] <ziroday> TomH1973: the audio cd should play in rhythmbox
[05:47] <addisson> TomH: Applications > Sound and Video > Dragon Player
[05:47] <listar> just down the realplayer
[05:47] <listar> it is good
[05:48] <ziroday> TomH1973: can you please try playing the audio cd through rhythmbox and tell us what happens.
[05:48] <nst> how to say like this "ziroday: Zallik: err does your /etc/X11 dir exist?".Everyone can see them and it means ziroday say to Zallik
[05:48] <ziroday> nst: type in the first few letters of the nick and then hit tab. So for instance zirod<tab>
[05:48] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: yes .. droid sans looks a lot like that
[05:49] <silv3r_m00n> almost same
[05:49] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: yay
[05:49] <TomH1973> Rhythmbox is what I have and my Ubuntu copy is 8.10
[05:49] <ziroday> TomH1973: okay, did you try play the audio cd in there.
[05:49] <newmember> I think I have a disk access problem, its really slow.  What should I do varify disk access speeds?
[05:49] <nst> ziroday:Thank you
[05:49] <ziroday> Zallik: okay, you sure that is the exact error message?
[05:50] <ziroday> Zallik: I will _not_ help you in PM. Please keep it in the main channel.
[05:50] <nst> ziroday:got it
[05:50] <ziroday> nst: awesome
[05:51] <nst> ziroday:own to you
[05:51] <Zallik> root@###:/home/## X <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:51] <Zallik> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting.
[05:52] <ziroday> Zallik: err are you using ubuntu?
[05:52] <Zallik> yea... pretty sure
[05:52] <Zallik> how do i check the id?
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: but there is still some difference
[05:52] <ziroday> Zallik: lsb_release -a
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> its not perfectly like that
[05:52] <silv3r_m00n> any other fonts ?
[05:52] <Zallik> No LSB modules are available.
[05:52] <Zallik> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[05:52] <Zallik> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[05:52] <Zallik> Release:        8.04
[05:52] <Zallik> Codename:       hardy
[05:52] <FloodBot3> Zallik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <doseryder> Hi
[05:52] <ziroday> silv3r_m00n: I'm sorry, thats the closest font I know :(. Maybe Helvetica Neue, but thats probably too thin.
[05:53] <nst> doseryder: HI
[05:53] <Zallik> lol... was that my password?
[05:53] <Zallik> codename?
[05:53] <kavurt> does anybody use mibbit for irc?
[05:53] <silv3r_m00n> ziroday: hmm .. no probs
[05:53] <ziroday> Zallik: nope, you are running ubuntu. How are you logged in as root and why?
[05:53] <Flannel> Zallik: No, that's the code name for ubuntu 8.04
[05:53] <Zallik> lol
[05:54] <doseryder> Sometime ago I learned that Sli is not supported.  Suppose I buy a gtx295 (which is sli configured), will I be able to take advantage of both gpus?
[05:54] <irc1> hey guys, i just installed 8.10 on vmware as a guestos but when it boots up it boots up to terminal instead of the desktop envirenment, any ideas why?
[05:54] <Zallik> i changed to root, coz i cant sudo properly, the password doesnt work, so i just have 2 change to root to do things
[05:54] <joetheodd> ziroday, sudo passwd root will change the root password (although Father Security doesn't recommend it)
[05:54] <doseryder> Is sli now support in the linux nvidia drivers?
[05:54] <joetheodd> ziroday, then you just type 'su' and type root's new password, hi, i'm root.
[05:54] <doseryder> s/support/supported
[05:54] <ziroday> joetheodd: I'm aware as to how to do it, why you would do it is another thing :)
[05:55] <scunizi> irc1: did you install server?
[05:55] <ziroday> !noroot > joetheodd
[05:55] <mvalviar> hi fellas. Just a small issue. Whenever I go to guess session the desktop ain't pretty. When I try to correct it using System>Pref>Appearance it says "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'
[05:55] <joetheodd> ziroday, ah, thought you asked how. Alcohol makes me misinterpret.
[05:55] <TomH1973> Ok I can Play music in rythem but sounds realy chopy
[05:55] <irc1> scunizi, no, its ubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <ziroday> Zallik: err okay. Well root is not really supported here. Try doing startx or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:55] <doseryder> does anyone know?
[05:55] <ziroday> joetheodd: no worries :D
[05:55] <doseryder> it should be a common question
[05:55] <ziroday> TomH1973: try killing pulseaudio
[05:56] <TomH1973> Pulseaudio where is that at?
[05:56] <irc1> gives this error when it boots kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot...
[05:56] <ziroday> doseryder: Well I don't but the kind folks in #nvidia might, or if you give me a minute to google around
[05:56] <irc1> and gives me the login page
[05:56] <irc1> i mean asks for login in terminal
[05:56] <Zallik> bash: /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[05:57] <doseryder> thanks ziroday
[05:57] <ziroday> TomH1973: try do pkill pulseaudio
[05:57] <jeeeez> hi, how do i unmount /home and check the filesystem for errors?
[05:57] <nocive_> doseryder: that's a question you should address here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 but I believe SLI is supported in most of the cases.
[05:57] <Flannel> jeeeez: the easiest way is `sudo touch /forcefsck` and then reboot
[05:57] <joetheodd> doseryder, I did a quick google of "sli ubuntu" and this forum topic looks promising -- http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607385
[05:57] <Flannel> jeeeez: (and it'll fsck while you boot-- taking longer than normal, etc)
[05:58] <jeeeez> Flannel: thanks, but where do i mention which partition to check?
[05:58] <TomH1973> What?
[05:58] <ziroday> Zallik: try typing in startx
[05:58] <HammerHead66> ok back sory about that
[05:58] <irc1> "cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied" when i run startx
[05:58] <irc1> what does that mean?
[05:58] <Zallik> that didnt work either ziroday
[05:58] <[_[__Luly__]_]> español
[05:58] <ziroday> !es | [_[__Luly__]_]
[05:58] <Zallik> bash: startx: command not found
[05:59] <ziroday> Zallik: and you just typed in startx correct?
[05:59] <Flannel> jeeeez: It'll mention all of them, actually.  As per your 'regularly scheduled' autofscks.  You can actually change which ones in your fstab (last field, pass)
[05:59] <Zallik> wats the case?
[05:59] <ziroday> Zallik: lower case
[05:59] <Zallik> yea,
[05:59] <jeeeez> okay, brb, let me try that out
[05:59] <Zallik> yea, it didnt work ???
[05:59] <joetheodd> I think startx has to be done by root.
[05:59] <Zallik> is there anything i need to get?
[05:59] <TomH1973> Hammer I Tried to play a cd but Sounded real bad
[05:59] <Zallik> anyhting i need to d/l?
[06:00] <joetheodd> As well as gdm (gnome desktop manager), which will land you at the standard login screen.
[06:00] <ziroday> Zallik: what version of ubuntu did you install? Desktop?
[06:00] <Zallik> i installed it on a remote server, and im just SSH'ing in
[06:00] <ziroday> joetheodd: he's logged in as root, as "sudo isn't working"
[06:00] <TomH1973> the sound was chopy and also had the same respons while viewing a video on the Today show website page
[06:00] <HammerHead66> TomH did u try to change sound settings
[06:01] <Zallik> i no loggin in as root, as bad, but i cant get sudo to work...?
[06:01] <TomH1973> ok How do I do that I am New to Ubuntu
[06:01] <[_[__Luly__]_]> HAY DRIVER DE VIDEO SIS PARA UBUNTU?????
[06:01] <ziroday> Zallik: I believe you need to reinstall. Futhermore running as root is dangerous. And ssh won't display graphical apps unless you enable X forwarding by doing ssh -X but it will still be _very very_ slow
[06:01] <[_[__Luly__]_]> O EN QUE DISTRO PUEDO CONSEGUIRLO
[06:02] <HammerHead66> TomH go to system
[06:02] <ziroday> !es | [_[__Luly__]_]
[06:02] <HammerHead66> pref
[06:02] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me with my LD_LIBRARY_PATH? I have a 64bit system and somewhere that path is getting set to :/usr/lib32 I was wondering if that is normal? if not, how to I go about figuring out where that is being set?
[06:02] <Zallik> ziroday, thats why i want to use X to view it
[06:02] <HammerHead66> sound
[06:02] <Zallik> like lauching programs with X on my box
[06:02] <ziroday> Zallik: X to view what?
[06:02] <Zallik> i.e konqueror
[06:03] <ziroday> Zallik: it doesn't work like that. I strongly recommend a reinstall. Plus you won't get any x forwarding anyway unless you ssh in with ssh -X
[06:03] <p-f> Whenever I suspend to ram, my usb external hard drive's device, /dev/sdb1 becomes invalid and I have to unplug/replug it in for it to work properly. Why, and how can I fix it?
[06:03] <btw0rm> so how can i change the way ubuntu boots up since i don't like the ubuntu 3 sided circle?
[06:03] <TomH1973> ok
[06:03] <Zallik> oo ok...
[06:03] <doseryder> thanks, I'll make my purchase
[06:03] <Flannel> !usplash | btw0rm
[06:04] <Zallik> hmm... i think i need to ask my resedent Linux guru at work
[06:04] <Zallik> thanks
[06:07] <HammerHead66> TomH: you find it?
[06:07] <addisson> HammerHead66: if Tom can achieve sound but it's choppy, he could remove PulseAudio and run sound straight through ALSA, you think?
[06:07] <rashed2020> How do I remove a symbolic link?
[06:07] <HammerHead66> probably should work
[06:08] <innnit> how can I find out which process is using an interface, and what ports?
[06:08] <innnit> there is activity on one interface and I don't know why
[06:09] <HammerHead66> innnit: setup a firewall and white list all traffic
[06:09] <TomH1973> hammer You still here
[06:09] <HammerHead66> then open only the ports you need
[06:09] <HammerHead66> TomH yea
[06:10] <innnit> HammerHead66: can you recommend a firewall, I never really got involved with them, although I understand ports etc
[06:10] <HammerHead66> Firestarter is really good and easy to use
[06:10] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:11] <addisson> Firestarer excellent
[06:11] <huwenfeng> oh, i deleted the "splash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst file, and i add vgs=792, after i enter "startx" to start the X, everything's OK, except that the Desktop Icons are gone. nothing's on the desktop, not even the background,
[06:11] <silv3r_m00n> on the gnome desktop how can I make the icons show only 2 lines of caption instead of whole caption ?
[06:11] <TomH1973> Ok Hamer was I supose to do the test
[06:12] <HammerHead66> TomH yea see what it sounds like
[06:12] <HammerHead66> try to change it if it sounds bad and see if it makes it better ok
[06:14] <TomH1973> Still Sounds chopy
[06:14] <HammerHead66> did you download the latest drivers for it?
[06:14] <HammerHead66> TomH
[06:17] <TomH1973> If you mean If I Have Download the lates linux or ubuntu drivers for my sound card no
[06:18] <HammerHead66> TomH I mean the lastest drivers for you sound card
[06:18] <HammerHead66> *your
[06:18] <TomH1973> When I Installed Ubuntu  I had to download 272 files
[06:19] <shabgard> Hi Dear ubuntu
[06:19] <shabgard> I have a problem at samba-ldap
[06:19] <TomH1973> Windows was working fine with this soundcard so what Gives?
[06:20] <shabgard> This problem is
[06:20] <HammerHead66> TomH but that doesn't mean that the lastest drivers for your sound card will be in it. Please go to the sound card web site and download and install the lastest drivers for the sound card
[06:21] <shabgard> at this commend : smbldap-populate
[06:21] <shabgard> get this Error:
[06:21] <TomH1973> so do I need Ubuntu driver or Linux drivers
[06:21] <shabgard> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 31.
[06:22] <sebsebseb> !sound
[06:22] <shabgard> please help me
[06:22] <sebsebseb> !samba
[06:22] <HammerHead66> TomH who made your motherboard?
[06:23] <shabgard> I 'm waiting
[06:23] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: Ubuntu is not Windows,  Ubuntu is one of many Linux distributions, and so you get  Linux drivers
[06:23] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: if you even need drivers
[06:23] <rdakin> my postfix has stopped sending emails.....  "mail" on the command line completes without error, but nothing comes through - also, a web app is reporting connection refused when trying to send via SMTP - are there postfix logs i can look at? I don't see anything happen in /var/log/mail.* when sending fails
[06:24] <shabgard> ubuntu helper....
[06:24] <shabgard> where are you?
[06:24] <lstarnes> shabgard: you do have to be patient
[06:24] <sebsebseb> !volunter |  shabgard
[06:24] <lstarnes> shabgard: please pastebin the full error
[06:24] <shabgard> OK..
[06:25] <shabgard> at This commend
[06:25] <lstarnes> shabgard: keep what you say in as few lines as possible
[06:25] <shabgard> "smbldap-populate" for config SMB and LDAP
[06:25] <shabgard> get This error
[06:26] <shabgard> Unable to open /etc/opt/IDEALX/smbldap-tools/smbldap.conf for reading !
[06:26] <shabgard> Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 31.
[06:26] <shabgard> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 31.
[06:26] <lstarnes> shabgard: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:26] <lstarnes> shabgard: paste there, then give us the link to it
[06:26] <shabgard> OK
[06:27] <TomH1973> Intel
[06:27] <TomH1973> Intel Mother board
[06:27] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: other tahn sound Ubuntu is ok so far?
[06:27] <addisson> HammerHead66: can you pm me?
[06:27] <HammerHead66> TomH ok hold on a sec ok
[06:27] <sebsebseb> TomH1973: your motherboard is fine I expect, you just need to configure your sound card in  Ubuntu a bit
[06:27] <shabgard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135211/
[06:27] <shabgard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135211/
[06:28] <HammerHead66> you can Im me at yahoo messenger screen name hollycowbatman23
[06:28] <Tapout> is there a way for ubuntu to connect to Windows XP without running 'vnc' ... like, remote desktop
[06:28] <sebsebseb> !rdp | Tapout
[06:29] <eqisow1> Tapout: You either have to use VNC or X through ssh, as far as I know
[06:29] <Tapout> !rdp
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Tapout: pretty sure there is a  RDP  client  for Ubuntu
[06:29] <sebsebseb> Tapout: however what's wrong with VNC?
[06:29] <TomH1973> Whell I have to push the power buton to shut down the computer it hangs when you shutdown on Ubuntu
[06:29] <nickolas> does XNA studio work with monodevelop? is there an xna version for mono?
[06:29] <shabgard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135211/
[06:29] <lstarnes> shabgard: we saw, you already pasted it
[06:29] <sebsebseb> !flood |  shabgard
[06:29] <sebsebseb> lol
[06:29] <sebsebseb> that didn't quite work out for me :D
[06:29] <kriyas13> how to signin to root user using terminal?
[06:30] <lstarnes> shabgard: make sure /etc/opt/IDEALX/smbldap-tools/smbldap.conf exists
[06:30] <lstarnes> kriyas13: why?
[06:30] <sebsebseb> !root |  kriyas13
[06:30] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  kriyas13
[06:30] <shabgard> yes..I sure
[06:30] <sebsebseb> ok the second one didn't really apply to you
[06:30] <HammerHead66> TomH : here is the web site to download the drivers ok....http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/index.htm
[06:30] <nickolas> Does XNA work with Monodevelop?
[06:31] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: yeah it's sudo this that and the other with this distro, but...
[06:31] <eqisow1> kriyas: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root-password.html
[06:31] <TomH1973> The sound card chip is a Cs I Guess Crystal Audio sound card
[06:31] <eqisow1> kriyas: and su changes to the root account
[06:31] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  eqisow1
[06:31] <shabgard> sorry ..at This line where is IDEALX?
[06:31] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: you don't need a root password, you just use su
[06:31] <TomH1973>  but hey it is 12 31 here in Utah and I have to get some Sleep
[06:31] <dr_willis> err. sudo. not su
[06:31] <eqisow1> yeah, I saw it. I disagree
[06:31] <lstarnes> shabgard: IDEALX is IDEALX
[06:32] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: however using  su  can be bad as well if your not careful
[06:32] <shabgard> OH...!! NO...THIS address not exist
[06:32] <kriyas13> already i use sudo -s, but now it doesn't work it show this message  sudo: must be setuid root
[06:33] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: ,but you don't need a password on the actsaul root account,  if you do and lose both passwords,  you could have right problems later on.    if you lose password for both accounts
[06:33] <dr_willis> kriyas13:  then you some how got the permissions messed up.
[06:33] <bunjee> what can I use to burn an avi file?
[06:33] <sebsebseb> kriyas13: and the other day I had a weird issue where my password seemed to have gotton reset, no idea why, but since I hadn't  set a  root password on that account,  I was able to reset my password in recovery mode
[06:33] <shabgard> How do i create that?
[06:33] <dr_willis> bunjee:  you can CONVERT an avi file to  a 'dvd video format' if you want to make a dvd video disk from it.
[06:34] <lstarnes> kriyas13: reboot into recovery mode and run this command after logging in as root: chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo
[06:34] <dr_willis> bunjee:  i use 'devede' for that.
[06:34] <TomH1973> Hammer I Am Going to Sleep But I will Be back online tomarow like sunday afternoon
[06:34] <sebsebseb> !ops
[06:34] <eqisow1> bunjee: nautilus's built in burner or Brasero will work fine, unless you need to convert to DVD format?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> maybe not really an emergency
[06:34] <sebsebseb> ,but your giving bad advice I think
[06:34] <shabgard> How do i that address?
[06:35] <sebsebseb> telling people to use the root account!
[06:35] <kriyas13> lstarnes: ok, i do that and comeback
[06:35] <shabgard> How do i create that address?
[06:35] <eqisow1> sebsebseb: I'm not telling anybody to use the root account, I'm answering a direct question.
[06:36] <HammerHead66> TomH are you still here?
[06:36] <addisson> HammerHead66: I think he went to bed!
[06:37] <bunjee> I've never used devede - does it convert avi to iso?
[06:37] <watchtea> Hello all
[06:38] <dr_willis> bunjee:  it takes video files and makes a dvd-video-iso file from them
[06:38] <HammerHead66> addisson: hopefully I can help him on another day
[06:38] <dr_willis> bunjee:  the way you phrased it is not correct. :)    it convertes video to proper dvd-video format
[06:38] <slimjim> hey  i am getting ready to put Ubuntu on my Linux box, I already have dream linux on there, so I just need to place a / partion correct, i can share the swap and /home partion with dreamlinux and what about the boot loader
[06:38] <dr_willis> bunjee:  complete with a menu, and other features
[06:38] <addisson> HammerHead66: I think he'll be back sunday afternoon.
[06:39] <eqisow1> slimjim: you can share the home partition as long as the home directories are different. sharing a home directory can cause problems
[06:39] <sebsebseb> slimjim: yep
[06:39] <slimjim> but do i want to install ubuntu boot loader also since i already have a loader in the MBR
[06:39] <bunjee> Ok, I've got something going here that reads "converting files from title 1" I picked my home folder instead of a dvd - correct?
[06:39] <HammerHead66> addisson: ok I'll keep my eye out for him
[06:39] <sebsebseb> slimjim: which loader inthe MBR?
[06:40] <eqisow1> slimjim: either boot loader will work
[06:40] <sebsebseb> slimjim: and Ubuntu's Grub will probably detect your other distro as well
[06:40] <dr_willis> bunjee:  i would suggest going to the DeVeDe homepage and reading the docs. Its not too hard to use.
[06:40] <bunjee> ok thanx
[06:40] <slimjim> DL is already in the MBR now on the Ubuntu install last step is asking do  want to install boot loader
[06:40] <slimjim> and it if do then i can pick Hd0 or /dev/sda and so on
[06:40] <eqisow1> slimjim: that would be the easiest thing, yes
[06:41] <slimjim> and it will just add to the loader that is already there then
[06:41] <addisson> HammerHead66: Ought to have a dedicated channel for sound probs for new folks
[06:41] <slimjim> so i wont loose my dl loader and wil be able to choose between the two
[06:41] <addisson> They're some of the most common probs
[06:41] <shabgard> Sorry ..How create  i smbldap.conf?
[06:41] <HammerHead66> addisson: that would help a lot of people
[06:41] <eqisow1> slimjim: it should recognize it, yes. if not you can fix it pretty easily
[06:42] <shabgard> please help
[06:43] <slimjim> ok thanks eq i am going to let it load then and check it out..cause i am also gona load another distro on that box it is two Hdd one 80gg and the other 120 the 80 is my test drive at the moment it will have DL and ubuntu, havent decied what other distros i want to taste. been a while since i was in linux
[06:43] <HammerHead66> Sorry shabgard I don't know how to
[06:43] <slimjim> might look at the new gentoo or slackware.
[06:43] <shabgard> :(((
[06:43] <slimjim> all the distros have changed since i last looked
[06:43] <eqisow1> slimjim: if your looking for a distro like those, I suggest Arch
[06:43] <cristi_> any problems?PM me!
[06:43] <shabgard> what do i do?
[06:44] <eqisow1> slimjim: my favorite 'power user' distro, by far
[06:44] <slimjim> well i got dream for Xfce ubuntu for GNOME so i was gona look at a KDE and possiable a Fluxbox
[06:44] <shabgard> please give me a link for Help..
[06:44] <HammerHead66> ok brb
[06:44] <slimjim> but  i will look at Arch also
[06:44] <eqisow1> kdemod for arch happens to be one of the best kde implementations out there right now
[06:44] <slimjim> nothing wrong with tasting them all
[06:44] <slimjim> thanks  will look into it
[06:44] <lstarnes> shabgard: have you read the documentation for smbldap-populate ?
[06:44] <slimjim> right now i am dl FC10 for my flash card. for my lappy
[06:45] <slimjim> gona boot of it with a program i found to turn any thumb or flash drive into a bootable as long as your bios supports it
[06:45] <shabgard> yes ..but I can't ...
[06:45] <HammerHead66> try this out shabgard http://search.ubuntu.com/results2.html?cx=009650792990864903260%3A-lsdjshi1tu&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=smbldap.conf&sa=Search#1102
[06:45] <dr_willis> slimjim:  you mean 'unetbootin'
[06:45] <slimjim> i also have DL on a small partion on my lappy for when i dont want to mess with vi$ta
[06:45] <lstarnes> shabgard: does that explain how to set up a config file for smbldap?
[06:45] <shabgard> thanks for this
[06:45] <eqisow1> slimjim: which should be always :p
[06:46] <HammerHead66> np
[06:46] <HammerHead66> make sure to bookmark it ok
[06:47] <slimjim> eq can you help me fig out another issue i ihave a WD element 1tb ext SATA drive via USB sometime my dreamlinux has a hard time finding it, not sure what Ubuntu is ging to do. any idea
[06:47] <lstarnes> shabgard: copy /usr/share/doc/smbldap-tools/examples/smbldap.conf.gz to your home directory, run "ungzip  smbldap.conf.gz", edit smbldap.conf and set it up, then move it to /etc/opt/IDEALX/smbldap-tools/smbldap.conf for reading
[06:47] <shabgard> I do base on this link---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAP-SambaPDC-OrgInfo-Posix
[06:47] <lstarnes> shabgard: I do not know how smbldap.conf should be set up so don't ask me about setting it up
[06:47] <eqisow1> slimjim: I'm not very familiar with dream, but it *should* be seen as a mass storage device. If you want it to automount, you'll probably need a fstab entry
[06:47] <slimjim> EQ yes it would be but i am havin issue with my bootup on my lappy, if i shut down it will auto restart and then beep loud like a sticky key but can not find one sticking. I know the window boot manager was screwed up and i have yet to find a way to fix it
[06:48] <slimjim> ok i will look in the fstab configuration and most likly auto mount it that way
[06:48] <lstarnes> shabgard: if you follow the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAP-SambaPDC-OrgInfo-Posix correctly it should work
[06:49] <slimjim> so eq can you tell me some of the new changes to the new disto of ubuntu. anything in there that will allow me to backup my dvd movies to my HDD =)~ heheheh
[06:49] <shabgard> I have check this ...very tanks for help you
[06:49] <eqisow1> slimjim: of course. do you want full iso backups or xvid backups?
[06:50] <lstarnes> shabgard: use "thank you very much for your help" instead of "very tanks for help you"
[06:50] <slimjim> xvid...so i can slim em down and thor them on my tb to travel with my lappy
[06:50] <slimjim> i work for contract copmany in the mid east and my tower dont travel to well =)
[06:50] <eqisow1> slim: check out acidrip
[06:50] <slimjim> not much american tv other there so =) you know
[06:50] <slimjim> gota have the movies
[06:50] <eqisow1> gotcha
[06:51] <slimjim> thanks when it is done loadig i will let it update and then get that sourcecode
[06:51] <eqisow1> slimjim: no need, there's a binary in the repos
[06:51] <slimjim> nice
[06:51] <slimjim> even beter
[06:51] <slimjim> so they have done alot with the binary on this one then i remember when i tested out i htink it was 5 there was alot of stuff still being added
[06:52] <slimjim> i bet tho they still have not added back LIBDVDCSS to the repo...that is ok i have it on my other drive =)
[06:53] <slimjim> stupid us and there stupid copy right crap...
[06:53] <HammerHead66> lol
[06:53] <slimjim> tnx eq been a real big help.....
[06:53] <slimjim> for real hhead everything should be opensource
[06:54] <slimjim> why put limits on what one can do when stupid M$ just makes a raping killing on the comglomert counsumer
[06:54] <slimjim> vista has not even been out what 3 years now and they are already release beta m$ w$ 7
[06:55] <slimjim> <----- is venting
[06:56] <eqisow1> lol, sorry slim. was sammich time. decss is actually there too
[06:56] <eqisow1> slim: it's not quite debian, but there's a huge number of binary packages for ubuntu now
[06:57] <slimjim> nice..how is debian lookin gthese day DL is made off of stable lenny (5)
[06:57] <slimjim> course using Xfce for the Desktop evnirment
[06:57] <eqisow1> slimjim: debian is debian. plodding along as always
[06:57] <slimjim> huh....what bout FreeBSD they still making new distra
[06:58] <eqisow1> libdvdread4 is the dvd library now
[06:58] <eqisow1> slim: haven't dabbled much in the bsd's myself
[06:58] <slimjim> nice.....it is good to see them all starting to come up and make things more accesable.
[06:59] <slimjim> eq what ll you dable in. I started in RH long time ago. then merged to solaris, and then back to RH then tok a break and came back in with openSUSE and Ubuntu, and made my way back int Dream and FC
[06:59] <eqisow1> slimjim: wait til you see the automatic codec installation, add/remove programs, etc
[06:59] <slimjim> and i run it all on an older AMD Socket A mobo and box
[07:00] <slimjim> 256mb of old DDR ram too =)
[07:00] <slimjim> but the board supports RAID 133 haha old school
[07:00] <slimjim> 82%
[07:00] <eqisow1> slimjim: mostly Arch and Ubuntu at the moment, but I've been lots of places. I still have RPM nightmares.
[07:00] <DavidProck1981> http://www.cellstores.com/autocontent.aspx?pageid=1907&referringdomain=fortune&Eid=5526541
[07:00] <DavidProck1981> And if you deside to call you will need to give them my Rep. ID # 5526541
[07:01] <slimjim> hahahah is RH still doing RPM
[07:01] <slimjim> i thkn Suse is using yast still
[07:01] <Flannel> !offtopic
[07:01] <eqisow1> slimjim: 256 might hurt with a full blown Gnome/KDE desktop now a days :x (and , Suse and redhat are both RPM)
[07:01] <slimjim> sorry Flannel, k eq you mind if i send you PM with my email
[07:02] <Flannel> slimjim: No worries.  You can always take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <mouseclon1> hello everyone .. I have a really strange problem with AdobeAir.
[07:05] <mouseclon1> It seems that some have been able to get AdobeAir to work but I'm not sure at what point.  I seem to have it installed , but the error I'm getting, some say that something is not loading correctly.. anyone know how to get around Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/filesystems/libgio.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[07:05] <mouseclon1> Segmentation fault
[07:05] <slimjim> <---wishes he could help
[07:06] <Aokaado> got this problem on my laptop the last time i got 8.10 running, if i use volume buttons (just click once) the computer ends in an endless loop thinking i'm hogging the button (if i click the other one it thinks i'm holding that one down), most of the os is crashed but will fix after i relogg/reboot. worked last time i had ubuntu 8.10 and previous ubuntus (and currently in windows)
[07:06] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: it's 64 bit right?
[07:08] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: yes.. sorry .. a clean install of Ubuntu 64bit 8.04
[07:08] <scorp_> anybody awake that can assist me with an x server problem?
[07:08] <mouseclon1> Air is install.. I get that error when I try to install an app.
[07:08] <slimjim> 99% install 8.10 soon i wll get to see it for the first time
[07:08] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: and ur trying to install adobe flash and getting an error?
[07:10] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66:  I installed Adobe Air (not flash). I'm getting that error when I go to launch the installer
[07:10] <btw0rm> why doesn't tar -cvf test.txt work with me?
[07:11] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: 1 sec ok
[07:11] <btw0rm> it says tar cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
[07:12] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: where did you get the program from?
[07:12] <igi> ?
[07:12] <dparker> btw0rm - are you trying to extract or create that tar file?
[07:12] <igi> nick /igi-
[07:13] <igi> create
[07:13] <dparker> you ned to specify some stuff to add to the archive
[07:13] <dparker> e.g. tar -cvzf my.tgz /home/*
[07:13] <ksbalaji> longlive ubuntu. is there any 9.xx LTS?
[07:13] <mshade> igi: try naming an archive
[07:13] <wrektjet> he i really need to find my dns id
[07:13] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: I get the error even if I do not select a program.  If I start the Adobe Air installer, and then cancel it.  I get the error with out the seg fault
[07:13] <ksbalaji> onglive ubuntu. is there any 9.xx LTS?  I use 8.04 Hardy LTS
[07:14] <sixofour_> in kubuntu is there an app that can see my joysticks and configure them?..they are usb
[07:14] <Flannel> ksbalaji: No.  The next scheduled LTS will be 10.04
[07:14] <sixofour_> !joystick
[07:14] <igi> iam trying to add the test.txt into a tarball
[07:14] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: ok I'm download it now to check it out
[07:14] <mshade> igi: into a new tarball?
[07:14] <igi> yes
[07:14] <wrektjet> does anyone know how to find a dns server addie?
[07:14] <mshade> tar -czf tarball.tar.gz test.txt
[07:14] <mouseclon1> hammerHead66: Adobe has instructions on install http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb408084
[07:14] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1:ty
[07:14] <ksbalaji> Flannel: thanks. When will that be please (10.04)
[07:15] <bman> wrektjet, opendns.com
[07:15] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: 4th month of 2010
[07:15] <Flannel> ksbalaji: Releases are year.month, so April of 2010
[07:15] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: so probably around mid-April 2010
[07:15] <quibbler> mouseclon1: what air app are you trying to install
[07:15] <wrektjet> isnt there a terminal command that can tell me current settings>
[07:16] <bman> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:16] <lstarnes> wrektjet: /etc/resolv.conf
[07:16] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: also better on Ubunt Forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941093.  Adobe left a ln out of their install directions
[07:16] <igi> mshade: thanks it works
[07:16] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: did you get this probelm?   /tmp/AdobeAIRSDK.tbz2 could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences.
[07:16] <ksbalaji> lstarnes: ,Flannel that is good info. I would not upgrade from 8.04 till then. I would happly update till then.
[07:16] <mouseclon1> quibbler: really i'm trying to get Twirl to install.. but I have triez Spaz as well
[07:16] <fukid> hi... i have just updated to 9.04 alpha, but i can't start the NIVDIA driver . my Driver is 180.37 and my graphic card is 9800GT , any suggestion?
[07:17] <IntuitiveNipple> HammerHead66: That's a bug in xulrunner to do with mime-type handling... do a Save As... instead
[07:17] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: no i didn't
[07:17] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: usually non-LTS releases work well after being out for a couple months
[07:17] <Flannel> fukid: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support
[07:17] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: had trouble until I got all of the 32bit libs installed
[07:17] <Flannel> lstarnes, ksbalaji: there's absolutely nothing wrong with sticking to the LTS path
[07:17] <fukid> thanks ^^
[07:18] <hiiptihop_> I have a new DellStdio XPS laptop with 4gb ram, happily seen by bios and memtest, however ubuntu only report 4gb, can someone please give me pointer as to how to resolve this
[07:18] <Waouh> hi
[07:18] <bman> burn  it
[07:18] <bman> sup waoh
[07:18] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: It has 4GB and Ubuntu see's 4GB ... don'y you mean Ubuntu see's 3GB ?
[07:19] <bman> see moar
[07:19] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, indeed that is what I meant to say
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: OK, are you using a 32-bit version of Ubuntu?
[07:19] <bman> 64!
[07:19] <wrektjet> thnx guys
[07:19] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66:  also libadobecertstore.so gave the trouble until I did what adobe's direction 14 says.. I'm wondering if I can just do the same for the other file that is having trouble
[07:19] <hiiptihop_> yes I believe so, how do I confirm ?
[07:19] <wrektjet> i still havent solved my isues but its  astart
[07:19] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: uname -a
[07:20] <ksbalaji> Friends, earlier I had non-LTS. I used to worry about non working applications. Now after LTS, I am preoccupied only with my data and not the non-working applications!
[07:20] <tavo> excuse me, how do I know if my machine has installed ubuntu 32 or ubuntu 64???
[07:20] <lstarnes> tavo: uname -m
[07:20] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, "2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux"
[07:20] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: You'll need the 64-bit version (amd64) to make use of the memory since the space from 3GB to 4GB is used by PCI IO/MEM devices and can't be used by RAM.
[07:21] <tavo> :D
[07:21] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Yes, that's 32-bit - "i686"
[07:21] <lstarnes> ksbalaji: the non-LTS releases still get regular updates, although only for 18 months
[07:21] <tavo> thanks
[07:21] <Waouh> hi eveyone,
[07:21] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: sorry on mine I have no problems so far
[07:21] <lstarnes> tavo: x86 = 32 bit, x96_64 = 64 bit
[07:21] <lstarnes> *x86_64
[07:21] <tavo> :D
[07:21] <ksbalaji> lstarnes: thanks. for the 18 months info.
[07:21] <tavo> I've 32 bit
[07:21] <eqisow1> tavo: uname -a
[07:21] <bman> !want x96
[07:21] <tavo> many thanks lstarnes :D
[07:22] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, ohh bugger.. ... how do I confirm I havee 64bit cpu's ?
[07:22] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: ok thx
[07:22] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, which is your processor? how many ram do you have?
[07:22] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:22] <tavo> How can I install a 64 bit ubuntu'???
[07:22] <addisson> mouseclon1: you have 64bit?
[07:23] <lstarnes> tavo: download the amd64 version of ubuntu and install that
[07:23] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: look for the line: address sizes
[07:23] <wolter_> tavo, download 64bit ubuntu...
[07:23] <tavo> :O
[07:23] <mouseclon1> addisson: yes
[07:23] <tavo> I thought I could install it by using synaptic
[07:23] <Waouh> how can I change the Hostname of my laptop ?
[07:23] <tavo> thanks lstarnes I'm downloading 64bit ubuntu
[07:23] <wolter_> tavo, nah...
[07:23] <Waouh> any idea, about how can I change the Hostname of my laptop ?
[07:23] <lstarnes> tavo: synaptic will only install 32-bit packages if you are using 32-bit ubuntu
[07:24] <tavo> xD
[07:24] <IntuitiveNipple> tavo: It isn't possible to update from a 32-bit installation to 64-bit... it needs a fresh install of all the executable binaries and system libraries
[07:24] <tavo> hey
[07:24] <lstarnes> !hostname | Waouh
[07:24] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: ok I see why your having problems
[07:24] <tavo> what a hostname is?
[07:24] <tavo> and what about localhost?
[07:24] <mouseclon1> HammerHead66: what did I do wrong?
[07:24] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, ok, can't see if 32 or 64 but it is model Intel T9550... just looking that up
[07:24] <Waouh> a hostname is the name of the computer
[07:24] <lstarnes> tavo: localhost is the default hostname of <IP_ADDRESS>, which points back to your own computer
[07:25] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, is that the one that comes with the dell xps?
[07:25] <tavo> :O
[07:25] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Yes, that's a Core 2 Duo
[07:25] <hiiptihop_> woltter, yes
[07:25] <tavo> and what is that for?
[07:25] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, nice, i have that machine too =D
[07:25] <lstarnes> tavo: what is what for?
[07:25] <ganesh> which is the best player to play HD movies?
[07:25] <tavo> what is localhost
[07:25] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, and yes ,its 64bit
[07:25] <wolter_> !tab | hiiptihop_
[07:26] <Waouh> for example my current Hostname is Toto and I want change it to Titi
[07:26] <wolter_> tavo, the local host - your host; your computer.
[07:26] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, crap, I just grabbed an intrepid cd I had lying about and did not even think about it
[07:26] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: :)
[07:26] <lstarnes> Waouh: I told ubottu to send you instructions about it
[07:26] <hiiptihop_> wolter, yes very nice machine ... so I'm going to have trash this install and start again ?
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:27] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, you could do that...
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> the docs that are installed from synaptic ... how do I read them
[07:27] <lstarnes> silv3r_m00n: look in /usr/share/docs
[07:27] <tavo> thanks
[07:27] <lstarnes> silv3r_m00n: actually, /usr/share/doc
[07:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Waouh: sudo sed -i '/Toto/ s/Toto/Titi/g' /etc/hostname
[07:27] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, if it's a new install I would do that..
[07:27] <melik> how can i log a user out of my system?>
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> lstarnes: that I can see ... but isn't there some kind of interface to read the docs folder section wise
[07:28] <dan_> hello can anyone help me connect my video camera to my usb - i am using ubuntu intrepid thanks
[07:28] <bony> hi i was trying to setup my modem using wine for accessing a fax software called winfax. when i run the setup of adding a modem i am not able see any device in the "Modems and Communications Devices Properties" window but when i click "Test Com Ports..." the program starts to scan for the modem and it finds the modem in COM1. When i say add i am not able to add the modem can any one tell me on how to add the modem?
[07:28] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, wolter_, I obviously want to make the most of my new machine. Is there a downside to going full 64bit ?
[07:28] <lstarnes> silv3r_m00n: I'm not sure
[07:28] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I've been running 64-bit for 2 years ona  similar CPU - no problems so far.
[07:28] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, few software doesn't work right, like flash and java (they say, but i do ok with those)
[07:28] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, also, some printer drivers, like canon ip1800, don't work on 64bit
[07:29] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, the thing is, your computer will be faster on 64bit.
[07:29] <IntuitiveNipple> The only problems are with proprietary software mostly, that doesn't get compiled for 64-bit
[07:29] <sixofour> wtf
[07:29] <sixofour> i restarted my kubuntu install..and gnome laoded after the KDe loginn screen?
[07:30] <sixofour> How did this happen?
[07:30] <IntuitiveNipple> sixofour: Gremlins?
[07:30] <lstarnes> sixofour: did you install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:30] <sixofour> i don't know wtf is up :(
[07:30] <sixofour> kubuntu
[07:30] <TonyMontana> is there a room for Desktop mechanical questions?
[07:30] <lstarnes> sixofour: or gnome?
[07:30] <hiiptihop_> wolter_, IntuitiveNipple , well currently I'm developing using flex. so far on Windows but using Ubuntu in VirtualBox as host... now with new machine I wwant to reverse that...and ultimately hopefully do development in native ubuntu
[07:30] <sixofour> i don't even have gnome
[07:30] <sixofour> well, thought i didn't
[07:31] <sixofour> ive rebooted fine many times
[07:31] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Sounds good.. you should be able to use Windows in either VirtualBox or the native Linux virtual machine, KVM
[07:31] <dan_> hello can anyone help me connect my digital camera?
[07:31] <TonyMontana> Is there a room for desktop mechanical questions???
[07:31] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: like what?
[07:31] <wolter_> hiiptihop_, compiling is much faster on 64bit
[07:31] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Also, I *think* wine can support flex now... you'd need to check on that though, so you could potentially run it directly on Linux
[07:31] <sixofour> let me reboot properly
[07:31] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, yes, been wrestling trying tto get my existing WindowsXP off old laptop and virtualized
[07:32] <TonyMontana> lstarnes: like my PC wont turn on all the way when I press the power button
[07:32] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: yeah, did you create a new Hardware Profile with generic hardware first? That is always a useful step
[07:32] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: what happens when you try to start it?
[07:32] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, using the VMWare Converter to grab the physical install and turn it into a vm, and then migrate that across to a virtualBox vm
[07:32] <ganesh>  which is the best player to play HD movies in ubuntu?
[07:32] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: ouch :)
[07:33] <TonyMontana> It will light up like it's about to boot up but then it shuts back down, and the second time I press it it will boot up all the way
[07:33] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, is that the wrong way to go ?
[07:33] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: try asking in ##hardware
[07:33] <TonyMontana> thanks
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> ganesh: I think you need the libraries... most players rely on them. libx264 and aac I *think*
[07:33] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I don't think there's a 'wrong' way... just some routes are more scenic than others :)
[07:33] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, just want to grab my curretn winXP develop environment etc and just run, not go through all the win crap, install everything again
[07:34] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, :-)
[07:34] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Yeah... I had success with the generic Hardware Profile approach.
[07:34] <TonyMontana> that place is a Ghost town I need somewhere that's populater
[07:34] <TonyMontana> *populated
[07:34] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, pointer to what you suggest ? and then even with a new profile, how do you transfer it into a virtualized env ?
[07:34] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: that is the official channel for asking hardware questions on this network
[07:35] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, did you need to rreactiviate too ?
[07:35] <TonyMontana> everyone's asleep there
[07:35] <lstarnes> TonyMontana: this channel is just for ubuntu-related questions
[07:35] <Greencoat421> Can someone help me set up an ethernet bridge?
[07:35] <TonyMontana> I know
[07:35] <dparker> Greencoat421 - have you looked at brctl?
[07:36] <sixofour> yeah wtf
[07:36] <sixofour> regular ubuntu loads after i log in to KDE
[07:36] <sixofour> my pc feels like a mac now :(
[07:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: Once you've got a generic hardware profile I'd shrink the Windows file-system to take up as little space as possible, then do a raw copy into a file that would then be the image for the virtualisation tool. I use KVM/QEMU so it'd get compressed and converted to a QCOW2 image-type.
[07:36] <Greencoat421> I have my ubuntu desktop connected to a wireless network, I have my xbox 360 connected to my Ubuntu Desktop, but I'm having trouble with firestarter
[07:36] <Greencoat421> dparker no what is it?
[07:36] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I don't recall having to, no
[07:37] <dparker> Greencoat421: it is the thing you'll use to set up bridging in the kernel
[07:37] <dparker> if you don't have it, install it and read the man page
[07:37] <dparker> it should be pretty clear from the man page
[07:37] <Greencoat421> do I need to mess with the kernel if all I'm doing is sharing an internet connection
[07:37] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, sounds good, have link to how to do raw copy ?
[07:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: All you should need is to configure routing correctly, and possibly DNS/DHCP with something like dnsmasq
[07:38] <dparker> well - hehe - ultimately you'll be changing kernel params, but you're doing it w/ brctl - it's not like you're re-building the kernel or anything
[07:38] <Greencoat421> Basically the xbox keeps saying it can't get an ip adress
[07:38] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, also, any reason for KVM vs VirtualBox ?
[07:38] <Greencoat421> I have dnsmasq installed and I believe setup correctly
[07:38] <mefached> !sound
[07:38] <dparker> yeah - so disable your firewall stuff first, get it working, then worry about securing it Greencoat421
[07:38] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: I don't, sorry. I did it ages ago and worked it out myself since the commands are pretty basic (when you're a Linux geek!)
[07:39] <Greencoat421> ok so I get this straight:
[07:39] <Omni> Hi! anybody here know about fully ubuntuing a macbook?
[07:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: you may need to enable IP Forwarding on the interface(s)
[07:39] <Greencoat421> turn off firestarter, reconfigure dnsmasq and trry to connect?
[07:40] <Greencoat421> I know its a bit to ask, but could someone run me what I would do from the begining from plugging the cat 5 into the coputer?
[07:40] <dparker> Greencoat421 - just as a general rule - when you're setting up something non-trivial or unfamilliar w/ networking, best to disable firewalling 'til you get it working
[07:40] <dparker> then secure it after.
[07:40] <dparker> that way you limit the variables you're working with
[07:40] <Greencoat421> Well the first thread I found siad to use firestarter to share the connection
[07:40] <dparker> you said initially that you want to do a bridge - is that correct?
[07:40] <Greencoat421> yes
[07:40] <dparker> not a router?
[07:40] <Greencoat421> I'm not worried about the firewall
[07:41] <Greencoat421> right, this is my set up
[07:41] <dparker> ok - then get brctl and read that man page
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: I've got a wiki article for a similar scenario... setting up to support multiple virtual machines... you may find it helpful. http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/KvmQemuEasyRoutedNetwork
[07:41] <dparker> bridging is pretty simple
[07:41] <Greencoat421> dsl--> wireless router----> Ubuntu Desktop<--->xbox 360
[07:41] <dparker> and you want the xbox to dhcp off that wireless router right?
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Greencoat421: think of the VMs in the wiki article as the interfaces used to connect to the xbox
[07:42] <dparker> or do you want it to dhcp off the ubuntu box?
[07:42] <IntuitiveNipple> dparker: I think off the Ubuntu PC - he said he had dnsmasq installed
[07:42] <Greencoat421> I would prefer it to just dhcp so I have to configure as little as possible
[07:42] <Greencoat421> I do have dnsmasq installed
[07:42] <dparker> ok - then Greencoat421 you're making a router, not a bridge
[07:42] <hiiptihop_> IntuitiveNipple, thanks for pointers and assist. time to download fresh 64bit ubuntu then
[07:43] <IntuitiveNipple> hiiptihop_: good luck with that!
[07:43] <dparker> if you're going to use dnsmasq on the ubuntu box, it's kind of implied that you're using the ubuntu box as a gateway of some sort
[07:43] <Greencoat421> all I want to do is be able to connect to xbox live through my ubuntu desktop which is connected wirelessly
[07:43] <Greencoat421> ok
[07:44] <dparker> yeah - really - I'd look at bridging
[07:44] <dparker> you would not need dnsmasq in that case
[07:44] <zeno_> how do you add a directory to places?
[07:44] <dparker> just bridge the interfaces together
[07:44] <Greencoat421> which is the simplest way to go about it
[07:44] <dparker> get brctl and read that - it explains a lot
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Does network manager handle a bridge on a wlan interface?
[07:44] <Greencoat421> I need simple more than solid
[07:45] <dparker> IntuitiveNipple - /me has always done it by hand, so don't know
[07:45] <Greencoat421> ok what the package for brctl
[07:45] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm just thinking bridging could leave Greencoat421 in a more confused situation :)
[07:45] <dparker> Greencoat421: a cool thing about Ubuntu
[07:45] <dan> hello can anyone help me connect my usb camera?
[07:45] <dparker> if you just type "brctl" in an attempt to run it, ubuntu will tell you want you need to install
[07:45] <dparker> pretty neat
[07:46] <dparker> (and you may already have it)
[07:46] <Greencoat421> well when I typed brctl it gave me a list of commands
[07:46] <dparker> ok - you have it then
[07:46] <dparker> just man brctl and read up
[07:47] <delfick> hello, I'm trying to svn commit to a computer of mine (in a different physical location) and I've come to the conclusion that if I turn on the firewall on the other computer, the commit will work, otherwise it doesn't do anything. However I'm unsure which port to unblock in the firewall. Does anyone know how I'd go about finding out which port is denying my svn commits??
[07:47] <dparker> the jist of it is that you'll take e.g. eth0 and wlan0 and make br0 and rout everything through that from your workstation's perspective
[07:47] <sixofour> does anyone know kubuntu and can come talk in #kubuntu?
[07:48]  * dparker in fact runs kubuntu
[07:48] <Greencoat421> I think I feel a headache comming on
[07:48] <dparker> is it really a kde question?
[07:49] <sixofour> yes
[07:49] <sixofour> kde fails to load and i have to use gnome
[07:51] <dparker> sixofour - sorry - I haven't dug into the particulars in kubuntu - it's always just worked for me.  You might check ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:51] <dan> hello can anyone help me connect my usb camera?
[07:52] <dparker> dan - do you want it to look like a disk drive when you plug it in?
[07:52] <dparker> or is this a webcam?
[07:52] <Greencoat421> ok dpraker Ive added eth0 and ra0(my wlan) to my bridge br0
[07:52] <HammerHead66> mouseclon1: I just trying to help out man... that program is new to me. And to top it off I can't get passed number 3 in the install because it said it doesn't have the file. I can't help that.
[07:52] <dan> dparker the first one please
[07:53] <dan> dparker: its a jvc handycam and i just want to get the pictures i have in it
[07:53] <dparker> dan - you need to ensure your camera is configured so that it presents itself as a USB storage device. That will be specific to your camera so you'll have to read the manual.
[07:53] <dparker> dan: once you've done that, when you plug it in, it will just work - it'll show up as a new drive.
[07:54] <dparker> probably w/ a camera icon
[07:54] <dan> dparker it doesnt show in nautilus, ive tried lsusb and it shows the hardware
[07:54] <dan> Bus 001 Device 072: ID 04f1:0008 Victor Company of Japan, Ltd GZ-MG30AA/MC500E Digital Video Camer
[07:55] <dan> but nothing in nautilus or pcmanfm
[07:55] <dparker> Greencoat421 - cool - now the deal is that you're going to do something a bit counter-intuitive the two "real" intefaces don't really need addresses.  The br0 one however does.  So you'll need to dhclient br0
[07:55] <dparker> yeah - dan - your camera very likely has a couple of USB modes - you need to read the instructions for your camera and ensure that it's set up as a usb storage device
[07:55] <general> hi
[07:56] <general> how do you get the screenshot of a window?
[07:57] <magnetron> general→ Alt+PrintScreen
[07:57] <dan> dparker thanks - i already put it to usb mode by putting the switch to usb
[07:57] <HammerHead66> general: look on the upper right hand side of keyboard just to the left of the Scroll lock button
[07:57] <general> magcius: thanks very much, but how do you do this in script?
[07:57] <general> HammerHead66: thanks ^
[07:57] <general> magnetron: ^
[07:57] <magnetron> general→ "scrot" is a command to do automated screenshots.
[07:58] <mn> Where do I get GTK+ engines?
[07:58] <Harde> Anyone with a laptop that has ATI Radeon HD3450 and is using HDMI-out? My lappy seems to be unable to output proper HDMI, I've tried it with 2 different monitors and also in windows
[07:58] <dparker> dan - k - that's about the end of my general wisdom re: cameras - if you can make it look like generic usb storage, it'll work fine. Else you'll need one of the programs that's specifically made to talk the more proprietary protocols that some cameras use.  I know they exist in the repositories, but I don't recall their names.
[07:58] <general> magnetron: thanks!
[07:59] <dan> dparker: ok thanks
[07:59] <dparker> np
[07:59] <crdlb> mn: there are several in the repositories as gtk2-engines-whatever
[08:00] <quibbler> mouseclon1: i take it you had looked here?  http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb408084
[08:00] <general> magnetron:  i want to run xvbf and open a firefox to get the screen shot. do you have any idea?
[08:00] <mn> ty crdlb, that gave me all the info i needed
[08:00] <Omni> Dooes anybody know what the best way to single boot a macbook with ubuntu would be? I'm having problems with the bootloader
[08:01] <general> i know the steps of commands to do this, but how can you make sure it takes screen shot after the web page finished loading?
[08:01] <general> magnetron: ^
[08:02] <michele> jgg
[08:03] <w1> hai
[08:03] <aksjhda> ohai
[08:03] <slag> Can someone help me with a rather simple apache question?
[08:03] <michele> sorry italy
[08:04] <dparker> slag - have you tried #apache?
[08:04] <slag> ahhhhh
[08:04] <slag> i forget the command to leave a channel dparker :-)
[08:04] <quibbler> !it | michele
[08:04] <slag> years since i played on IRC
[08:04] <dparker> hehe
[08:05] <Greencoat421> hello?
[08:06] <Greencoat421> ok dparker I need you to help me out here
[08:06] <quibbler> !welcome | Greencoat421
[08:06] <dparker> Greencoat421: sup?
[08:06] <Greencoat421> the manual was useless to me beyond setting up the br
[08:06] <Greencoat421> this is what I did
[08:06] <Greencoat421> addbr br0
[08:07] <Greencoat421> then addif etho(the xbox)
[08:07] <Greencoat421> then addif ra0(the wlan)
[08:07] <quibbler> !enter | Greencoat421
[08:07] <Greencoat421> and presto my connection stopped working alltogether
[08:07] <dparker> Greencoat421: yeah - see - things get slightly counter-intuitive at that point
[08:08] <Greencoat421> Well the manual didn't explain a thing
[08:08] <Greencoat421> just what the commands did, not how to put them together
[08:08] <dparker> it works like this: once you've bridged those interfaces together, the IP addresses on the interfaces don't matter - you should actually de-configure them so they don't have addresses of their own
[08:08] <dparker> then you dhclient br0
[08:08] <lanoxx-> which one is true? 2.8 > 2.16 or 2.8 < 2.16?
[08:09] <Aokaado> first
[08:09] <Greencoat421> Ok ok so I do what I did again, then $ dhclient bro ?
[08:09] <Greencoat421> *br0
[08:09] <dparker> right - and that should get a dhcp lease from wherever - your wireless router I  think is where you said it'll come from
[08:09] <dparker> now
[08:10] <dparker> coincidentally at that point your xbox should be able to dhcp as well
[08:10] <dparker> well - once you've set up the bridge, the xbox should be able to dhcp
[08:10] <Greencoat421> ok, anymore steps after that?
[08:10] <dparker> nope - should just work
[08:11] <Greencoat421> ok so to recap:
[08:11] <Greencoat421> addbr br0
[08:11] <Greencoat421> addif eth0
[08:11] <Greencoat421> addif ra0
[08:11] <Greencoat421> dhclient br0
[08:11] <FloodBot3> Greencoat421: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <dparker> Greencoat421 yeah. I'm not sure if you *must* remove the addresses from the "real" interfaces either
[08:12] <dparker> it might be that you have to - I don't recall
[08:12] <Greencoat421> if I do have to, how do I do that
[08:12] <dparker> sec
[08:12] <skyl> anyone got a good howto for setting up a radio station, perhaps with icecast?
[08:12] <Greencoat421> ok
[08:13] <mamafish> how do i save my system changes in Live cd?
[08:13] <Aokaado> got this problem on my laptop when installing 8.10 today, if i use volume buttons (just click once) the computer ends in an endless loop thinking i'm hogging the button (if i click the other one it thinks i'm holding that one down), most of the os is crashed but will fix after i relogg/reboot. worked last time i had ubuntu 8.10 (some months ago) and previous ubuntus (and currently in windows). know of any way to fix it ?
[08:13] <dparker> Greencoat421:  ip addr del IFADDR dev STRING
[08:14] <Greencoat421> ok I'll be back if things go awry again
[08:14] <mamafish> i installed some packages and would like to retain it
[08:14] <dparker> Greencoat421: actually - do "ip addr list"  that'll tell you what ifaddr and string should be
[08:14] <slag> anyone know how to turn on RAW directory listing in apache?
[08:15] <dparker> it's the Index option for a directory or location
[08:15] <dparker> slag
[08:15] <dparker> Options Index or maybe Indexing - I forget
[08:15] <mamafish> how do i save my system changes in Live cd to a local disk for future use?
[08:15] <slag> ahhh
[08:15] <mamafish> i am now on live cd..
[08:15] <slag> okay :-)
[08:17] <dinesh_> i access internet through wi fi connection but i have noticed that the speed is reduced in ubuntu in comparison to windows is there any way to increase the speed
[08:18] <mamafish> anyone can answer my question?
[08:19] <dparker> mamafish - I don't know the answer to that.  Lots of times however the purpose of a livecd is to let you use the os w/o changing anything on the host computer.
[08:20] <mamafish> dparker: i understand just looking for the possibilities
[08:20] <dparker> mamafish - sorry - I don't have an answer
[08:20] <mamafish> that's ok
[08:22] <dparker> dinesh_ - there really are lots of variables involved in network performance - e.g. windows may have been doing some caching with a windows version of the "squid" program.
[08:23] <dinesh_> dparker: how can i increase the speed if possible
[08:23] <dparker> dinesh_ there are just, you know, lots and lots of ways to do that
[08:24] <dparker> you might look at squid
[08:24] <dparker> you might look at dnsmasq
[08:24] <dparker> those can both help a lot
[08:24] <dparker> if you're using firefox, there are add-ons that tweak firefox to make speed it up as well
[08:25] <disappearedng> Hey how do I find any files that contains kanye in my entire system?
[08:25] <Greencoat4211> ok yet more problems
[08:25] <dparker> Greencoat4211: what happened?
[08:26] <dinesh_> dparker: can you name one of those firefox addon that can speed up
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> ok the first time I did all the commands and with dhclient it froze the computer
[08:26] <dparker> dinesh_ - I think there's one called fasterfox
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> then I rebooted and when I did brctl show I had a pan0, I think this is from ndiswrapper for my wireless card
[08:26] <dparker> hunh - really?
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> yeah
[08:26] <Greencoat4211> so I tried adding etho to pan0 but no luck
[08:27] <dparker> don't know dude it should just work
[08:27] <Greencoat4211> dhclient ran through, but said no dhcpoffers
[08:27] <dparker> those ndiswrapper drivers are a bit twitchy though I think
[08:27] <Greencoat4211> well will having pan0 affect having br0
[08:27] <dparker> no
[08:28] <Greencoat4211> then I'll see if br0 freezes dhclient again
[08:28] <dparker> do you have wireless security turned on?
[08:28] <Greencoat4211> yes
[08:28] <Greencoat4211> surely there is a much simpler way of doing this
[08:29] <dparker> Greencoat4211: could be - I am an older dude and I've always used the command line stuff
[08:29] <dusan> Ahoj
[08:31] <disappearedng> can someone tell me how I can search my entire harddisk for files that contains "kanye"?
[08:31] <dparker> Greencoat4211: you know what *really* makes it easy?  Get a WRT 54GL and flash DD-WRT onto it.
[08:31] <dparker> :)
[08:31] <dparker> seriously - dd-wrt is awesome
[08:31] <eqisow1> disappearedng: there's a "search" button in nautilus
[08:32] <baddaboom> would someone know how to get window borders to work correctly in icewm?
[08:33] <disappearedng> eqisow1: that doesnt work that well i don't know why, I tried it, but I can't find anything but I know for sure that I have one song by kanye west because I can see me uploading it in mldonkey
[08:34] <dparker> disappearedng - cd / ; grep -ri kanye  *
[08:34] <dparker> that'd run for a while
[08:34] <achilles>  hello, I have a bridge interface br0, I assigned an IP address to it and it's fine, I can access the server from this IP, but once I get in (ssh), no ping to anywhere could be, any help ?
[08:34] <disappearedng> dparker thanks
[08:35] <dparker> achilles - what do you mean by "once I get in (ssh), no ping to anywhere could be" ?
[08:36] <achilles> dparker, I mean, I can access my shell session, and if I ping from the shell to my pc, it doesn't ping, or any other host in the network it doesn't ping
[08:36] <achilles> dparker,  no iptables defined
[08:37] <Greencoat421> still no joy
[08:37] <dparker> Greencoat421: :( - should work
[08:37] <dparker> achilles: so you can ssh to the machine and get a shell via the ip address that's assigned to the bridge device
[08:38] <dparker> and you can interact w/ the shell
[08:38] <achilles> dparker, exactly
[08:38] <achilles> no no
[08:38] <Greencoat421> I made the bridge, added the two devices, dhclient successfully, yet still when I try to test the connection via the xbox is still fails the ip test
[08:38] <achilles> I can interact normally
[08:38] <achilles> but the server can't see any host in the LAN
[08:38] <achilles> even the PC I connect from
[08:38] <Greencoat421> the desktop internet is working fine
[08:38] <achilles> yes
[08:38] <dparker> achilles: but - you can connect to it?
[08:39] <dparker> with ssh
[08:39] <dparker> from some other node
[08:39] <dparker> ?
[08:39] <achilles> dparker, yeah !
[08:39] <dparker> well - that's definitely weird
[08:39] <achilles> dparker, I can ping it also, but the server can't ping any host
[08:39] <bobbie4> I like the ubuntu, because it likes me
[08:39] <dparker> iptables are clear on the machine from which you are ssh-ing?
[08:40] <achilles> dparker, yes totally clear
[08:40] <Greencoat421> so no other ideas dparker?
[08:40] <dparker> is this all just jacked into a dumb switch?
[08:40] <dparker> Greencoat421: sec
[08:40] <Greencoat421> ok
[08:41] <Greencoat421> ok somehow the br0 wasn't saved
[08:42] <dparker> achilles - all the nodes are just plugged into plain dumb switch?
[08:42] <achilles> dparker, yes , I can ping them from my PC
[08:43] <achilles> and they can ping that stupid server normally
[08:43] <Chowder> random question: why is it that when I install a video driver (for example) Ubuntu installs all the others along with it?
[08:44] <dparker> and for all the iptables you did iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT etc?
[08:44] <dparker> (default policy)
[08:44] <achilles> dparker, yes, some of them aren't linux, but yeah, I'm sure
[08:45] <dparker> achilles - k - you got me. if you're establishing an ssh connection, you obviously have routing working in both directions.
[08:45] <achilles> this will make me lose my mind
[08:45] <dparker> unless you've got some filter going on in the middle, can't think of anything that'd keep it from working
[08:45] <achilles> all of that stuff on the same LAN
[08:46] <dparker> netmasks all correct?
[08:46] <dparker> those can get you
[08:46] <dparker> if you have netmasks mis-matched
[08:48] <achilles> yes the are correct
[08:48] <tendragon> word
[08:48] <dparker> well - dude - put wireshark on the workstation and sniff
[08:48] <achilles> the weird thing, every host can access the server, but no where from the server you can go
[08:49] <achilles> as it refuses to establish any connection to the outside word
[08:49] <dparker> yeah - sniff. maybe check /var/log/*
[08:49] <achilles> or even to the lan
[08:49] <dparker> it sounds like filtering
[08:50] <dparker> but - don't know - check logs and use a sniffer to see what if anything is getting on the wire
[08:50] <achilles> okay
[08:50] <dparker> well
[08:50] <achilles> thank you
[08:50] <dparker> do you have selinux turned on?
[08:50] <Chowder> random question: why is it that when I install a video driver (for example) Ubuntu installs all the others along with it?
[08:50] <dparker> achilles: selinux might be able to mess you up there too
[08:51] <dparker> I'd be sure that's all turned off
[08:51] <xtrender> anyone here?
[08:51] <achilles> I don't have SELinux
[08:51] <dparker> k
[08:51] <xtrender> can someone helpme?
[08:51] <dparker> sniff and read logs
[08:51] <|Jurij|> Привет
[08:51] <|Jurij|> Нужна помощь
[08:51] <|Jurij|> ???
 go to the russian channel....comrade
[08:52] <Chowder> <_<
[08:52] <tendragon> what happent, xtrender?
[08:52] <Chowder> lol
[08:52] <xtrender> anyone here can helpme with firefox cache settings?
[08:52] <xtrender> the videos i watch in youtube does not get cached
[08:52] <dparker> xtrender - you might try #firefox
[08:53] <achilles> dparker, the source of the ICMP packets is not the ip of the br0 !
[08:53] <xtrender> nobody is there
[08:53] <NewHandFromCN> hi,hello.
[08:53] <NewHandFromCN> i want to install man page for "fseek ,fopen"
[08:53] <|Jurij|> What connect the russian channel?
[08:53] <NewHandFromCN> but i don't know wich package to install
[08:53] <dparker> xtrender - in the case of flash stuff  (which is what youtube is doing) you're kind of at the mercy of what adobe and whoever wrote the site what's you do be able to do
[08:53] <Swin> !ru
[08:54] <PrebenR> can anybody tell me ho locales work in ubuntu. It seems broken compared to Debian in Ubuntu 8.10: I want to stop it from trying to generate the invalid locale : no_No.UTF-8 but I cannot find which file locale-gen reads in Ubuntu to change it. I get this error:   no_NO.UTF-8... cannot open locale definition file `no_NO': No such file or directory
[08:54] <PrebenR> failed
[08:54] <NewHandFromCN> russian
[08:54] <tendragon> xtrender, do you want to clear the cache?
[08:54] <NewHandFromCN> which package contain the man page for "fopen ,fseek " the c functions?
[08:55] <JanPeter> Anyone use Ekiga?
[08:55] <PrebenR> NewHandFromCN, probably glibc-doc or libc-doc
[08:55] <xtrender> no.. normaly when one person watch a video, it should be cached. so if i open again the same video it should be loaded already (sory for the terrible english =/)
[08:56] <achilles> dparker, there is very weird thing, the server uses it's gw to send messages while the are on the the same subnet and on the same LAN
[08:56] <NewHandFromCN> PrebenR: thank you. :D. i try try
[08:56] <bomanizer> hi, is there a configuration utility for the xorg intel driver? something to conf. colors, etc.
[08:57] <Zallik> Hi, im trying to get Xhost working
[08:57] <Zallik> there are a set of instructions that are not working :(
[08:57] <Zallik> can someone help me
[08:57] <dparker> achilles: yeah - so that sounds like the network routes are wrong
[08:57] <dparker> achilles: when you bring an interface up, a network route is automatically created
[08:57] <voyagi> I've got some problems with apt-get. It's really slow, in the beginning like 50 kb/s, then 500b/s. I have 10 mbit ADSL and usually download in about 700 kb/s
[08:57] <Zallik> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl_xhost.htm <-- Step 3 isnt working
[08:58] <dparker> achilles - you're sure the masks are right?
[08:58] <achilles> dparker, the server and the other nodes on the same switch, the network ID <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ..
[08:58] <achilles> yes totally sure
[08:58] <Clone1> Hello all
[08:58] <Clone1> :)
[08:59] <Clone1> Is anyone there by chance?
[08:59] <Clone1> :)
[08:59] <Zallik> im here
[08:59] <JONT> 3halo da org
[08:59] <Zallik> but i dont no enough :(
[08:59] <Chowder> 1317 users here in total
[08:59] <Zallik> lol
[08:59] <JONT> jdbfhhjgfjgjhhjhjfggrgh
[08:59] <Chowder> DSFARGEG
[09:00] <JONT> bhs indo aja kalik
[09:00] <dparker> achilles: you got me I guess - if it's trying to send local traffic through the default gw then it's acting like the local network routes are wrong.
[09:00] <Clone1> Im only having a problem, Ubuntu installed onto my laptop, and its stuck at user and password, like it didnt let me set up my password, and i cant get it to install again, ive made like 2 disks to correct this lol
[09:00] <Clone1> Im on vista atm, i despise it lol
[09:01] <dparker> achilles: iptables -t nat --list - does that show anything?
[09:01] <Clone1> Any experts for Ubuntu here by chance?
[09:02] <achilles> it's empty
[09:02] <achilles> dparker, it's empty
[09:02] <dparker> hunh
[09:02] <PrebenR> nobody here that knows about locales?
[09:03] <Chowder> PrebenR, ask your question
[09:03] <PrebenR> Chowder, I did
[09:03] <PrebenR> can anybody tell me ho locales work in ubuntu. It seems broken compared to Debian in Ubuntu 8.10: I want to stop it from trying to generate the invalid locale : no_No.UTF-8 but I cannot find which file locale-gen reads in Ubuntu to change it. I get this error:   no_NO.UTF-8... cannot open locale definition file `no_NO': No such file or directory
[09:03] <dparker> achilles: /me ponders
[09:03] <achilles> dparker,  hmm ?
[09:03] <dparker> I'm just thinking
[09:03] <PrebenR> Chowder, where is the list where I can say I only want norwegian english and greek language?
[09:03] <rizitis> Clone1: reboot and try from safemode the option fix X
[09:03] <NewHandFromCN> find it . manpage-dev package
[09:03] <achilles> aha :)
[09:04] <dparker> I have no ideas
[09:04] <dparker> just pondering
[09:04] <Clone1> ok riz
[09:04] <Clone1> can i pm you info real quick?
[09:04] <Chowder> /etc/locale.alias
[09:04] <PrebenR> Chowder, the no_NO I haven't added and it is invalid
[09:04] <PrebenR> Chowder, that is the alias list
[09:04] <Chowder> hmm
[09:04] <achilles> dparker, I have a stupid idea, I'm thinking to restart the server
[09:04] <dparker> k
[09:04] <Chowder> I'm used to archlinux
[09:05] <PrebenR> in debian one had a file where one said which langagues to generate
[09:05] <Chowder>  /etc/locale.gen
[09:05] <PrebenR> it seems ubuntu uses some belocs-locales-bin
[09:05] <Chowder> try it out
[09:05] <Chowder> it shouldn't be harder then commenting/uncommenting something
[09:06] <Greencoat421> ok this bridge is not working
[09:06]  * bobbie4 loves ubuntu because it is good
[09:06] <Greencoat421> it keeps freezing my computer
[09:06] <PrebenR> Chowder, no go
[09:07] <Chowder> have you googled?
[09:07] <dparker> Greencoat421:
[09:07] <dparker> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Ethernet-Bridge-netfilter-HOWTO.html#ss3.1
[09:07] <dparker> try that
[09:07] <Greencoat421> how can I reset all of my networking stuff and try starting from scratch
[09:07] <PrebenR> yes, but I'll try again
[09:07] <Chowder> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="Ubuntu"+locale&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
[09:07] <Chowder> When in doubt, always google
[09:08] <Greencoat421> ok dparker you keep sending me to stuff that isn't for a beginner
[09:09] <Greencoat421> so how can I reset all the network settings to start again fresh
[09:09] <Haymaker> I'm trying to compile a plugin package for pidgin, and make keeps failing because its looking for a /usr/lib/libxml2.la that i presume does not exist
[09:09] <dparker> Greencoat421: you can get a console on the thing right
[09:10] <Greencoat421> perhaps one of the threads I followed changed a setting somewhere
[09:10] <dparker> physical console access?
[09:10] <Greencoat421> you mean on the xbox?
[09:10] <achilles> dparker, it worked!!
[09:10] <lstarnes> Haymaker: install libxml2-dev
[09:10] <achilles> dparker, everything is okay.. very weird
[09:10] <Haymaker> ok
[09:10] <achilles> dparker, thank you very much
[09:10] <dparker> so the stack was just confused achilles?
[09:10] <Greencoat421> the xbox is standard, no mods so I don't think I can get a console on it
[09:11] <dparker> Greencoat421: I mean the box that you wanna set the bridging up on
[09:11] <UsamaAkkad>  hello , I want to report a bug . it's read but can you take a  look at it before I post it
[09:11] <achilles> dparker, maybe this is the only explanation .. but not convinced
[09:11] <Greencoat421> by console you mean a terminal?
[09:11] <UsamaAkkad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/135277/
[09:11] <achilles> I restarted the networking serv+
[09:11] <achilles> dparker, I restarted the networking service
[09:11] <Haymaker> i think it's working, wow thanks i couldn't find that through google
[09:11] <CaptainMorgan> there's no "system restore" - like capability, no? I just installed a crapload of stuff- too much to mention, but I'd like to start over from scratch...
[09:11] <PrebenR> Chowder, had to delete /var/lib/belocs and then go to /var/lib/locales/supported.d and remove a no file that wsa there
[09:11] <dparker> achilles: stack must have been confused
[09:11] <PrebenR> messy
[09:12] <achilles> dparker, what prevents from getting it stuck again
[09:12] <lstarnes> Haymaker: if you have apt-file, you could try apt-file search /usr/lib/libxml2.la
[09:12] <dparker> Greencoat421: by console I mean can you sit physically at the computer without having to ssh into it?
[09:12] <Greencoat421> yes, I have my computer right next to my xbox all connected to my lcd
[09:13] <Greencoat421> and I am infront of all of them now
[09:13] <Chowder> PrebenR, I see
[09:13] <PrebenR> Chowder, finally! I can start programs in other languages :-)
[09:13] <dparker> ok - so - yeah - so this bridge stuff - you wanna do that right on that console there - not via ssh
[09:13] <Haymaker> hmmm alright thank you
[09:13] <Greencoat421> right
[09:13] <lyhana8> how do i configure epiphay to use tor ?
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> any ideas?
[09:13] <podman99b> hey guys and gals... how long till ubuntu support n-trig multi-touch??
[09:13] <dparker> Greencoat421: do "sudo bash" to get a root prompt
[09:13] <ukubuntu> Does anyone know how to remove duplicate mails in evolution? I suddunly have a copy of every email in my inbox!
[09:13] <PrebenR> Chowder, I use english, but when helping other family memebers it is nice to use the correct language to explain how to do sth :-)
[09:13] <Greencoat421> done
[09:13] <Chowder> PrebenR, never underestimate the power of google
[09:14] <Chowder> :D
[09:14] <PrebenR> Chowder, didn't find it through google
[09:14] <dparker> Greencoat421: then pretty much do what this here says step by step, but use your own network numbers: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Ethernet-Bridge-netfilter-HOWTO.html#ss3.1
[09:14] <PrebenR> Chowder, but I thought to look in /var/lib to see if there was some similar files there
[09:14] <Greencoat421> how do I find my network numbers?
[09:14] <PrebenR> Chowder, beloc doesn'tseem to care about /etc
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> Greencoat421, numbers?
[09:15] <Greencoat421> dparker said it not me
[09:15] <dparker> Green - actually - even forget that I said that - just that last line where it says "root@bridge:~> ifconfig br0 <IP_ADDRESS> up" - instead do "dhclient br0"
[09:15] <ukubuntu> or is there an evolution irc channel?
[09:15] <dparker> Greencoat421: ^^^
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> poor choice in word
[09:16] <Greencoat421> ok so do everything in that except the last line?
[09:16] <Greencoat421> and do the dhclient instead there
[09:16] <dparker> Greencoat421: yeah- do dhclient br0 in place of the last line
[09:16] <dparker> yes
[09:17] <Chowder> PrebenR, the way locales are controlled is a bit strange
[09:17] <PrebenR> yes
[09:17] <PrebenR> if they could at least provide some UI
[09:18] <Chowder> PrebenR, well you can't have a UI for everything
[09:19] <Chowder> different distros just have different ways of doing things
[09:19] <PrebenR> Chowder, but this for sure. I mean people should be able to choose which languages they want? If not at least generating all languages should work out of the box
[09:19] <PrebenR> Chowder, Debian has a UI that can be used...
[09:20] <PrebenR> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:20] <Chowder> PrebenR, that should work
[09:20] <Chowder> did you try that?
[09:20] <PrebenR> it doesn't in debian
[09:20] <PrebenR> in ubuntu
[09:20] <PrebenR> it just starts generating all languages
[09:20] <Chowder> man dpkg
[09:20] <PrebenR> no
[09:21] <PrebenR> I mean they change it in ubuntu
[09:21] <Clone1> Well for some reason, Ubuntu wont go into safe mode.
[09:21] <PrebenR> to disable that you can choose languages
[09:21] <Clone1> tells me memtest, and thats it lol
[09:21] <PrebenR> google and you'll see others see the same
[09:21] <Haymaker> thank you, brb logging in to root to fix something
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> there's no "system restore" - like capability, no? I just installed a crapload of stuff- too much to mention, but I'd like to start over from scratch...
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> any ideas?
[09:22] <Chowder> CaptainMorgan, why do you need "start from scratch"
[09:22] <ganesh> i am not able to play a high clarity  video in totem,or vlc..it plays like a slideshow..how do i fix it?
[09:22] <Greencoat4211> ok dparker the dhclient froze my computer again
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> I installed it all in coordination with a lengthy instruction site on server and thingys.... I'd like to absorb it more, probably went too fast.. but ironically, there are no mistakes... other than choosing an ISP that blocks my port
[09:23] <dparker> Greencoat4211: really?  As in you needed to reset it with the reset button??
[09:23] <Greencoat4211> yes
[09:23] <Greencoat4211> it's happend just about everytime
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> thing is, things are drastically changed as it relates to the software I was attempting to get going Chowder ... no way to revert it all? granted even reverting, if it's possible, would take sincerely a while
[09:24] <dparker> are you using the graphic interface - the GUI or just a text console?
[09:24] <Greencoat4211> I am using a terminal client in my gui desktop
[09:25] <Greencoat4211> I'm running intrepid
[09:25] <dparker> ok - so it could be X freezing up on you - that's a little different.  sec...
[09:25] <Chowder> you could do a clean reinstall, yes
[09:25] <Greencoat4211> ok
[09:25] <Chowder> CaptainMorgan, in the future you may want to have your /home partition seperate so that in the event of a reinstall or any problem you'll always have that in tact
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> eww.... that's how we did it in Sparc/sun systems... just.. ewww
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[09:26] <LB05> Hi, I am seeking for help on installing Java on ubuntu(newest version). I have tried the steps of http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t72809.html but it doesn't work :( can anyone please help?
[09:27] <Chowder> CaptainMorgan, lol. Its more secure, though.
[09:27] <Chowder> in fact. /home, /, /tmp, /var, /boot
[09:27] <Chowder> all on different partitions
[09:28] <tuffgong> hello
[09:28] <zixo> hi
[09:28] <dparker> k - Greencoat4211 - you might try switching to single user mode to do this - have you  ever done that?
[09:28] <tuffgong> anyone  have any idea on how to delete a file that says i/o error and doesnt get deleted when i try to delete it?
[09:28] <Greencoat4211> nope
[09:28] <Chowder> tuffgong, what file?
[09:29] <Chowder> tuffgong, also, where's it located?
[09:29] <Gilpy> Can anybody help me with a media problem? Whenever a .flv file is played, either on youtube or a media program, my other video formats and music wont play. Im running Hardy Heron. Please help me!
[09:29] <rizitis> LB05: did you read the day that it was written ? "At 7:57 AM on May 25, 2006"
[09:29] <tuffgong> its just  a file... extension is .vdi its located on a USB drive
[09:29] <tuffgong> its a 14gig file
[09:29] <Chowder> Gilpy, use google
[09:29] <LB05> Oh o.O
[09:29] <LB05> no I didn't see that lol
[09:29] <dparker> ok - well - Greencoat4211 - to do it you get a root prompt and do "telinit s" - when you do that your gui will shut down and you'll have just one text console - sort of like an old MSDOS box (but lots better :) )
[09:29] <Chowder> tuffgong, that's a disk image for Virtualbox
[09:30] <LB05> Can anyone then forward me to a newer post or something?
[09:30] <tuffgong> yeah exactly
[09:30] <Chowder> tuffgong, is virtualbox running?
[09:30] <tuffgong> no im not running it
[09:30] <Gilpy> Ive tried google searching an answer but come up with nothing :(
[09:30] <tuffgong> ive even restarted my pc several times
[09:30] <Greencoat4211> ok, so I do that and all I should need to do is the dhclient right, not the rest of that faq?
[09:30] <Chowder> tuffgong, give me the benefit of the doubt and do this: sudo killall -9 virtualbox
[09:30] <Chowder> then try and delete it normally
[09:31] <dparker> well - Greencoat4211 if you had to reset the box then yeah you have to re-do the other steps
[09:31] <Greencoat4211> Well all the steps worked
[09:31] <rizitis> LB05: first of all remove those old repositories if you add them at you system
[09:31] <tuffgong> Chowder, no process killed... is the output i get
[09:31] <dparker> unless you set up interfaces to do that for you automatically
[09:31] <tuffgong> cos its not loaded at all
[09:31] <Greencoat4211> it was just when I got to the dhclient step that it would freeze
[09:31] <Chowder> tuffgong, then try deleting it from the virtual media manager in virtualbox
[09:32] <LB05> rizitis, done.
[09:32] <tuffgong> Chowder, ive already deleted it
[09:32] <dparker> ok - so - btw - Greencoat4211- before you did the dhclient thing, did you get a chance to try the xbox?
[09:32] <tuffgong> from the media manager
[09:32] <dparker> at that point the x box should be able to dhcp etc
[09:32] <Chowder> tuffgong, sudo rm whateverfile.vdi
[09:32] <Greencoat4211> no
[09:32] <dparker> you might try that
[09:32] <Greencoat4211> so try it now?
[09:32] <dparker> also - Greencoat4211 - your iptables are all clear right?
[09:33] <dparker> totally clear, default policy to ACCEPT - all that - right?
[09:33] <Greencoat4211> I have no idea
[09:33] <tuffgong> rm: cannot remove `OpenSolaris.vdi': Input/output error
[09:33] <dparker> ohboy ok
[09:33] <Chowder> tuffgong, that's odd
[09:33] <Chowder> I'm all out of magic tricks
[09:33] <tuffgong> Chowder, very odd! :s
[09:34] <dparker> Greencoat4211: add this at the beginning of it: "iptables -F; iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT"
[09:34] <tuffgong> its eating up friggin 14gigs and i dont have a clue on how to delete it :(
[09:34] <hardcoding> Hello can anyone help me activate my wireless network please?
[09:34] <Greencoat4211> you mean to the faq?
[09:34] <Greencoat4211> can you link me again to that?
[09:34] <picca> anyone here recommend banshee?  i am looking for something to replace rythembox as i can't get on with it
[09:34] <dparker> Greencoat4211: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Ethernet-Bridge-netfilter-HOWTO.html#ss3.1
[09:35] <Chowder> http://www.google.com/search?q=rm+input+output+error&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[09:35] <dparker> sometime before you attempt the dhclient thing, do the iptables stuff too
[09:35] <Greencoat4211> ok, so runn thelins youjst gave me, then the faq, try the xbox, if it doesn't work do the dhco
[09:35] <Chowder> tuffgong: http://www.google.com/search?q=rm+input+output+error&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[09:35] <Greencoat4211> *dhclient
[09:35] <hardcoding> please?
[09:35] <dparker> Greencoat4211: close - the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive
[09:36] <dparker> Greencoat4211: but since it's been crashing when you do dhclient on the bridge host, I'd just try the xbox first
[09:36] <dparker> if the xbox happens to work, then you know at least that bridging is working
[09:36] <Greencoat4211> ok
[09:36] <dparker> but Greencoat4211 - actually - be sure you do those iptables lines first
[09:36] <dparker> before anything
[09:37] <Greencoat4211> I just got done doing them
[09:37] <dparker> ok
[09:37] <home> hzi
[09:37] <rizitis> hardcoding: whats the problem?
[09:38] <home> cman error 2
[09:38] <home> what can i do
[09:39] <tuffgong> Chowder, thanks im readin into that, there's something like deleting the file using its inode no. i think i'll give it a try
[09:39] <hardcoding> rizitis,  I just can't get my wireless network to be activated.. hold on I am going to try ndiswrapper...
[09:41] <rizitis> hardcoding:  whatis the chipset of your network card ? is it usb or pci?
[09:41] <Mo0oSaH> I'm trying to install subversion by doing sudo apt-get install subversion
[09:41] <Mo0oSaH> and it is asking me for CD Rom
[09:41] <Chowder> tuffgong, np
[09:41] <L3dPlatedLinux> why make 8.04 lts=long term support if there are going to be newer versions? just asking
[09:42] <hardcoding> rizitis,   pci
[09:42] <unanxbt> hi
[09:42] <hardcoding> rizitis,  this is my card : Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[09:43] <HammerHead66> L3dPlatedLinux: because 8.04 is more stable.
[09:43] <unanxbt> there is a tv show on bbc entertainment in which there is a family (with a father, a mother, 2 sons and a doughter) and the father is a dentist, can you tell me its name?
[09:43] <mib_4ce3kx> what's the regular method for a client to use VNC to run X?
[09:43] <rizitis> hardcoding: all intel cards are working on linux...
[09:44] <L3dPlatedLinux> I have used the ishw in term but was wondering is there a way to get more info on the motherboard?
[09:44] <hardcoding> rizitis,   oh really? ... I know that, I've already used Kubuntu with my laptop and it would work perfectly fine I just forgot all the commands to activate my card.
[09:44] <rizitis> hardcoding: but give the command lspci -nn and pastebin it to see the chipset
[09:44] <L3dPlatedLinux> well isnt 8.10 stable yet?
[09:45] <Mo0oSaH> I'm trying to install subversion from the repos and it is asking me for ubuntu cd rom
[09:45] <Mo0oSaH> any idea why?
[09:45] <HammerHead66> not as much as 8.04
[09:45] <HammerHead66> it covers more PC's it is made for the masses
[09:46] <L3dPlatedLinux> well whatever it is as long as they dont stop ubuntu beats windoze any day
[09:46] <hardcoding> rizitis,  http://pastebin.com/d587b745c
[09:49] <ngwasuma> ha
[09:49] <rizitis> hardcoding: are you at ubuntu or kubuntu now?
[09:50] <hardcoding> rizitis,   on ubuntu
[09:51] <rizitis> hardcoding: if you command /usr/bin/nm-applet  what happens?
[09:52] <hardcoding> rizitis,  (nm-applet:8859): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[09:52] <Haymaker> i installed apt-file a bit ago and i tried to update and it's telling me it can't find the files it needs on the internet
[09:52] <hardcoding> and rizitis  (nm-applet:8859): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[09:52] <Haymaker> and i tried those files through firefox and theyre 404, so its looking for something in the wrong spot i guess?
[09:52] <bobbie4> I have to leave now, okay?
[09:53] <Argus1> input signal out of range ubuntu 8.10 . Can somebody help me?
[09:53] <Greencoat421> dparker: ok none of this is working
[09:54] <dparker> Greencoat421: ok - sorry - that's about all I've got
[09:54] <Greencoat421> what is the telinit -s command again
[09:54] <Chowder> man telinit
[09:54] <dparker> that puts the machine into single user mode
[09:54] <dparker> it'll shutdown networking and the gui
[09:54] <rizitis> hardcoding: I think the problem is at the network manager but I dont know to say now...
[09:54] <dparker> it might mount all volumes read-only as well
[09:54] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:54] <zer0o> hi guys i run hardy, lately is been goin superslow and when i restart the system and it shuts down all the processes a couple of em fail and one of em just doesnt go ahead so it never restarts, is there a tool to verify the integrity of the system? or what do u suggest? thanks
[09:55] <Greencoat421> is that all to the command
[09:55] <silv3r_m00n> on the gnome desktop how can I make the icons show only 2 lines of caption instead of the whole caption
[09:55] <dparker> just telinit s - it a big mode switch
[09:55] <tuffgong> is deleting a corrupted undelete-able file using its inode no. on a ntfs usb drive a really good idea?
[09:55] <Greencoat421> it says -s isn't a valid option
[09:55] <Greencoat421> ah
[09:55] <dparker> no - just telinit s
[09:56] <Chowder> tuffgong, that sounds like a really bad idea
[09:56] <dparker> but - you know - it's going take you down to a console there
[09:56] <melik> if i install windows onto a logical partition, will it mess up my mbr?
[09:56] <dparker> just be aware of that
[09:56] <tuffgong> Chowder, really? what are the risks?
[09:56] <Chowder> idk
[09:56] <dparker> but - Greencoat421 - is it still literally locking up the machine when you dhclient?
[09:56] <Chowder> it just sounds bad
[09:56] <Chowder> lol
[09:56] <tuffgong> hehe...
[09:56] <Greencoat421> I think its locking up when the xbox queirs for a ip adress
[09:57] <tuffgong> :S Im loosing my head
[09:57] <Greencoat421> i did the telinit s but nothing happened
[09:57] <dparker> Greencoat421: as root?
[09:57] <Greencoat421> yes
[09:57] <Greencoat421> I did sudo bash
[09:57] <dparker> hrm
[09:57] <tuffgong> Chowder, is there any fsck kinda tool for ntfs?
[09:57] <Greencoat421> then telinit s
[09:57] <dparker> ok
[09:57] <oskar-> tuffgong: try it on a backup of the file system, made with dd, for example
[09:58] <dparker> which ubuntu version are you using, Greencoat421
[09:58] <Greencoat421> intrepid
[09:58] <dparker> yeah - ok - I think they switched to a new init subsystem which I have not yet looked at
[09:58] <dparker> there may be some crucial differences there
[09:59] <Greencoat421> ok, then how can I just set everything dealing with the network back to deafult so I can start with a clean slate
[09:59] <dparker> shoot - I'm sorry Greencoat421- I'm getting a bit punchy/tired here - I'm afraid I'm going to become increasinglly less effective than I already am ;)
[09:59] <Chowder> tuffgong, other than Windows chkdsk, idk
[09:59] <dparker> Greencoat421: sure
[09:59] <Chowder> there may be third party programs that off that type of functionality
[09:59] <tuffgong> whats idk???
[10:00] <Chowder> ntfs-3g
[10:00] <Chowder> idk=i don't know
[10:00] <tuffgong> hmm ok
[10:00] <dparker> Greencoat421: all things being equal, that procedure on that page should pretty much do it - I'm sort of at a loss as to what's going wrong
[10:00] <maxagaz> how to desactive shortcuts like Alt-F2 or Ctrl+Alt+F2 ?
[10:00] <tuffgong> heh ok idk neither! :)
[10:00]  * tuffgong brb digging a grave on the www
[10:01] <Greencoat421> guess I'll just have to dual boot windows until its simplified
[10:01] <dparker> k - sorry  Greencoat421 - again - it should work - not sure what's up
[10:02] <_dbd_l12> i think ntfsprogs has ntfsck
[10:03] <_dbd_l12> maxagaz: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/disable_extra_ttys
[10:05] <dominic_bredoto> hia
[10:06] <L3dPlatedLinux> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/search/label/Tweaks      <<<<< does this have any merit ?
[10:06] <dominic_bredoto> there is a list of task I need to do to become Ubuntu Prospectiv Developers
[10:06] <archman> hello
[10:08] <dominic_bredoto> ups
[10:08] <archman> now what's this: sometimes when I login to the session, my theme won't load, and I don't see "Applications, Places..." and Date & Time, and some buttons are different than they should be, and when I right click and "Change Desktop Background" it just logs off. Now this is lol.
[10:08] <dominic_bredoto> does anybody know what tasks i need to do to become Ubuntu Prospective Developer?
[10:10] <archman> I'm on intrepid, btw...
[10:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> archman   when ever I have a issue i just ctrl alt backspace and log in again to see if its better and most of the time it is
[10:11] <archman> L3dPlatedLinux, I know, but that is simply not the way...anyone knows something? Is it a known bug?
[10:11] <ernest> hello
[10:11] <HammerHead66> dominic_bredoto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto this link will get you started and it has many links to other programs you might want to try
[10:11] <dominic_bredoto> does anybody know what tasks i need to do to become Ubuntu Prospective Developer?
[10:12] <HammerHead66> dominic_bredoto: scroll up
[10:13] <dominic_bredoto> hm
[10:13] <ernest> i have got problem with skype
[10:14] <mirek> what problem?
[10:14] <ernest> my microphone volume go down when i start talk with friends
[10:14] <ernest> its 100% when i start skype and after few seconds its going to 50%
[10:15] <vuongsau> unbreak_my_heart_vs
[10:15] <soussou> hhtgh
[10:15] <vuongsau> yes
[10:15] <soussou> hello
[10:15] <ernest> hi
[10:15] <dominic_bredoto> HammerHead66,In Membership Requirements i find this:" Generally, at least two months of visible, significant activity will be required" what it meens?
[10:16] <vuongsau> i don't known
[10:16] <HammerHead66> dominic_bredoto: you have to be be an Active member for 2 months before you can become whatever you are trying to do I think. what are you trying to do?
[10:18] <neeteex> Hi there, what can be done if ubuntu seems to reach CPU max ? This seems strange since I'm doing nothing special...
[10:18] <archman> Is there a way to switch from Gnome to Xfce?
[10:18] <soussou> hi
[10:19] <mepk> hi
[10:19] <dominic_bredoto> HammerHead66, to become Ubuntu Prospective or Comtributing Developer
[10:19] <archman> hi
[10:19] <Shinu> affects or effects? (This ban affects me)
[10:19] <Chowder> affects
[10:20] <Shinu> Thanks Chowder :)
[10:20] <_dbd_l12> archman: yes you can install the xfce (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)
[10:20] <HammerHead66> dominic_bredoto: try to just be a member. Setup an account to get started. And help the teams out whenever you can. Before you know it you will be able to do what you are hoping to do.
[10:20] <archman> _dbd_l12, will all the apps remain installed?
[10:21] <dominic_bredoto> HammerHead66, thank
[10:21] <_dbd_l12> archman: yes, you will have the choice between gnome and xfce in gdm (where you enter your login credentials when x starts)
[10:21] <HammerHead66> dominic_bredoto: np
[10:21] <_dbd_l12> archman: problems will keep installed of course
[10:21] <Chowder> Shinu: np
[10:21] <_dbd_l12> archman: programs i meant
[10:22] <Trae> anyone know how I'd use rdesktop on ctrl+alt+F8 ?  I see the -0  flag in the help screen
[10:25] <Trae> nm... ctrl+alt+enter
[10:25] <archman_> sorry, had to restart
[10:25] <archman_> so?
[10:26] <broken_quiche1> I fathered that I need to defragment an MS-DOS partition before resizing - does the same apply to ext3 filesystems? The data is important.
[10:26] <unlink> Why might closing / switching tabs be so slow for me?
[10:27] <unlink> ~500 - 1500ms
[10:27] <abchirk> hi is it better to use 8.04 or better intrepid? Currently I have intrepid 64 bit, but there is a lot buggy
[10:27] <unlink> Usually switching tabs is pretty fast (~90ms), but every 10 or 12 times, it is very slow.
[10:28] <Chowder> unlink, opening up a new tab in firefox uses up a significant amount of RAM
[10:28] <unlink> Chowder: I'm not opening any new tabs. Oh, but good point. Firefox is consuming around 2.5 GB.
[10:29] <Chowder> wow
[10:29] <gordonjcp> woot
[10:29] <unlink> I just have 8 tabs open. Nothing special, except gmail.
[10:29] <gordonjcp> after only 12 hours I have working NVidia glx!
[10:29] <archman_> hello again
[10:30] <gordonjcp> let this be a lesson to all - if you replace your graphics card with a nearly identical graphics card, it will save time to just wipe your drive and reinstall
[10:30] <Fudge> !gnome2.6
[10:30] <Fudge> !upgrade gnome
[10:30] <gordonjcp> Fudge: isn't gnome 2.6 quite old now?
[10:30] <Fudge> usign ubuntu 8.10, how do you upgrade gnome, hopefully with aptitude
[10:31] <archman_> So the question is: how to install xfce without any additional apps?
[10:31] <gordonjcp> archman_: one would assume "sudo apt-get install xfce"
[10:31] <Fudge> what version is gnome on then? gordonjcp
[10:31] <Aokaado> 2.26 is newest gnome
[10:31] <gordonjcp> !tab | Fudge
[10:32] <gordonjcp> Fudge: if you put the nick at the start of the line, it highlights what you say in that person's irc client
[10:32] <unlink> Hmm. Quitting firefox doesn't bring up the menu to ask me if I'd like to save my session or just quit. Instead, it directly exits the program.
[10:32] <gordonjcp> makes it easier to keep track of who is talking to you
[10:32] <Fudge> is that 094
[10:32] <Fudge> 904
[10:32] <archman_> gordonjcp, there's no xfce
[10:32] <Fudge> gordonjcp yep of course
[10:32] <Fudge> :)
[10:33] <UsamaAkkad> unlink, if you chose quit for the file menu it will ask you
[10:33] <gordonjcp> archman_: try apt-cache search xfce and look for reasonable-sounding names
[10:33] <Fudge> gordonjcp would apt-get install gnome-desktop be right?
[10:33] <gordonjcp> Fudge: think 8.10 is on 2.24 anyway
[10:34] <Fudge> gordonjcp isnt 2.6 updated since 2.24?
[10:34] <unlink> UsamaAkkad: No, it doesn't.
[10:34] <gordonjcp> Fudge: 2.6 is ancient
[10:35] <archman_> gordonjcp, xfwm4 - window manager of the Xfce project ?
[10:35] <Fudge> i dont undesrtand gordonjcp, when was 2.6 released then and what is the latest gnome desktop
[10:35] <gordonjcp> Fudge: the version numbers aren't "two decimal six" or "two decimal two six" but "two dot six" or "two dot twenty-six"
[10:35] <fosco_> Fudge, latest gnome is 2.26
[10:35] <gordonjcp> Fudge: latest gnome desktop is 2.26, ubuntu comes with 2.24
[10:35] <Fudge> ah gordonjcp i see, thankyou
[10:36] <gordonjcp> Fudge: I don't remember when 2.6 came out, it was at least five years ago
[10:36] <Fudge> thankyou mate
[10:36] <Fudge> gordonjcp i meant 2.26 then :)
[10:36] <UsamaAkkad> when I chose quit from file menu it asks me if I want to save the session which some times I don't get it by clicking close button at the upper left corner
[10:37] <Fudge> id read it wrong
[10:37] <gordonjcp> Fudge: anyway check the changelog for the differences between 2.24 and 2.26, it's probably more bother than it's worth
[10:37] <Guest41114> dose any body know much about vbox?
[10:37] <gordonjcp> Fudge: apparently the biggie is that they use Brasero for burning CDs instead of Gnome CD-Burner - but that's already the case in Ubuntu anyway
[10:37] <archman_> gordonjcp, then?
[10:38] <gordonjcp> archman_: then what?
[10:38] <archman_> 11:36 < archman_> gordonjcp, xfwm4 - window manager of the Xfce project ?
[10:40] <prince_jammys> archman_: try 'xfce4'
[10:40] <prince_jammys> !info xfce4
[10:40] <prince_jammys> this does not come with all the apps
[10:41] <guler> hi
[10:41] <prince_jammys> archman_: well, it comes with thunar(file manager) and xfce-terminal, but not much else.
[10:42] <prince_jammys> archman_: and it'll install xfwm4 (the window manager)
[10:42] <archman_> prince_jammys, oh, just what I wanted to ask, thanks ;)
[10:42] <archman_> prince_jammys, will I have the choice to login to gnome again? on the login screen?
[10:43] <prince_jammys> yes
[10:43] <prince_jammys> it won't uninstall anything
[10:44] <archman_> I'll try it now.
[10:44] <archman_> see you, thanks
[10:45] <invisibleninja> Hey Dude,don't  ignore.
[10:45] <archman_> lol
[10:45] <invisibleninja> I ma Good man.
[10:47] <invisibleninja> I ma the the man, who can teach you how to rock?
[10:47] <bazhang> !ot > invisibleninja
[10:47] <broken_quiche1> I gathered that I need to defragment an MS-DOS partition before resizing - does the same apply to ext3 filesystems? The data is important. This suggests that it does, but maybe th author just wasn't thinking... http://www.softpanorama.org/Internals/disk_partitioning.shtml
[10:47] <oskar-> invisibleninja:  what is the question?
[10:48] <assid_> hey
[10:48] <invisibleninja> It's kinda good idea to be Rock,think about it..........rock ......rock....
[10:48] <assid_> i got access to a box, but its sitting on etch.. so i updated etch to stable in sources.list and now its giving me some key error
[10:49] <assid_> oops.. wrong windw
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> Hey Guys
[10:49] <Blinkiz> I want to attach a IDE harddrive to a running ubuntu desktop computer without reboot. Is it as simple as just plugin it in and linux kernel will detect it? Or do I need to run a command for it to scan new ide devices?
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> uhm
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> How can i make a autostart in ubuntu with the console ?
[10:49] <m0nst3rkill3r> i installed teamspeak-server
[10:50] <m0nst3rkill3r> with packet manager
[10:51] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:51] <Blinkiz> I think there is a spam bot in here. User invisibleninja sends me privat mess when I join this channel
[10:51] <silv3r_m00n> I changed some setting in control center after which konqueror stopped showing file previews in icons ... what was that setting ?
[10:51] <ortsvorsteher> !boot | m0nst3rkill3r
[10:52] <broken_quiche1> Must i defrag an ext3 partition before resize?
[10:52] <frog_> hi,the error amount by dd_rescue, is it the amount of bytes, sectors or of what?
[10:54] <Chowder> broken_quiche1, i don't think that ext3 supports defrag
[10:54] <Chowder> that's ext4
[10:54] <Wintervenom> Hello.  Any recommendation for a music player that can deal with a terabyte music collection?
[10:55] <usr13> Wintervenom: Wow.
[10:55] <usr13> broken_quiche1: No need to defrag, it doesn't frag
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> can any one help with this
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346682
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> sorry
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> was this
[10:56] <UsamaAkkad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/251378
[10:57] <kebabskal> hello
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> my konqueror doesn't show image thumbnails/previews
[10:57] <silv3r_m00n> how do I enable them
[10:57] <Wintervenom> usr13:  Yeah, I know.  :P   Rhythmbox dies when I try to use it with that.
[10:58] <Wintervenom> And then everything gets slow because it will eat up all the RAM I have.
[10:59] <archman> ok, i'm in xfce4. It's impressive :)
[10:59] <archman> faaast
[10:59] <kebabskal> installed the jaunty beta yesterday and ive got no 3d (ati). i read there was some special version of fglrx just released. is it the version available through synaptic?
[10:59] <prince_jammys> silv3r_m00n: open konq, and change it in `Configure konqueror'
[11:00] <usr13> Wintervenom: Have you tried amarok?
[11:00] <silv3r_m00n> prince_jammys: fine I solved it
[11:00] <lstarnes> kebabskal: ask in #ubuntu+1 if you are using jaunty
[11:00] <prince_jammys> silv3r_m00n: Settings ... ah ok.
[11:00] <kebabskal> lstarnes: thanks ill try that
[11:00] <ttl_> what extension of programs does ubuntu support?
[11:01] <lstarnes> ttl_: extension?
[11:01] <invisibleninja> O.K I m Sorry because non of you liked my idea.
[11:01] <ttl_> invisibleninja: what was your idea?
[11:01] <ttl_> lstarnes: i mean .deb or .rpm?
[11:02] <Chowder> programs that everyone should have: rkhunter and chkrootkit
[11:02] <vega_> ttl_: ubuntu is based on debian so .deb
[11:02] <kebabskal> ttl_: you should use .deb if the application you want to install isnt already in the software repository.
[11:02] <lstarnes> ttl_: programs themselves rarely have extensions.  ubuntu uses .deb fir packages
[11:02] <lstarnes> *for
[11:03] <Chowder> apt://rkhunter
[11:03] <Chowder> apt://chkrootkit
[11:03] <Chowder> get them
[11:03] <ttl_> what are those?
[11:04] <prince_jammys> `root kit' checkers
[11:04] <maxagaz> how to use gnome kiosk ?
[11:04] <lstarnes> prince_jammys: rootkit is one word
[11:04] <prince_jammys> oh, so sorry.
[11:04] <ttl_> tripwire is pretty effective in rootkits i think
[11:05] <invisibleninja> No it's all over now I cant,let's forget it.
[11:05] <Chowder> tripwire?
[11:06] <ttl_> tripwire does a checksum against the original file system and detect changes which eventually and effectively discover rootkits
[11:07] <kebabskal> can i downgrade xorg to a version that supports my ati graphics card?
[11:12] <usr13> kebabskal: What  is your graphics card?
[11:12] <kebabskal> usr13: ati radeon x1950xtx
[11:12] <archman> prince_jammys: how can I make windows to minimize to the panel? (xfce4)
[11:13] <usr13> kebabskal: What version of Ubuntu?
[11:14] <invisibleninja> Is there anybody who is the master in simulation game's?If there,cool help me.
[11:14] <kebabskal> usr13: right now, jaunty
[11:14] <kalidar> does anyone know of a good fserving irc and a good fserv network??
[11:14] <prince_jammys> archman: no idea. i don't have xfce
[11:14] <kebabskal> usr13: latest beta
[11:14] <kalidar> peticuraly anime
[11:14] <usr13> kebabskal: Is it not loading a driver at all?
[11:14] <usr13> kebabskal: Or what?
[11:14] <kalidar> could someone private chat me if they can help
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> Hey guys i downloaded the Teamspeak-server via packetmanager to make an autostart but i get
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> Error starting daemon. Aborted
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> i installed my root new
[11:15] <Chowder> ttl_, sounds good
[11:15] <Chowder> is it in the repos?
[11:15] <wangyi_> ?
[11:15] <kalidar> does anyone know of a good fserv irc for kubuntu and a good frserv network for anime??? if you can help can u plz pm me :)
[11:15] <ttl_> try to get it from apt get
[11:15] <m0nst3rkill3r> i did
[11:16] <m0nst3rkill3r> apt-get install teamspeak-server
[11:16] <kebabskal> usr13: i get all jumbled graphics when booted up. i cant see a fglrx module with lsmod. if i try to modprobe fglrx i get FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory
[11:16] <wangyi_> F80s安装ubuntu没有声音？
[11:16] <kebabskal> usr13: i know there are problems with ati on jaunty
[11:16] <archman> prince_jammys: is there a channel for xfce support?
[11:16] <gordonjcp> archman: /j #xfce ;-)
[11:16] <prince_jammys> archman: there's probably an #xfce or #xfce4
[11:17] <Chowder> ttl_, got it, configuring now
[11:17] <kalidar> does anyone know of a good fserv irc for kubuntu and a good frserv network for anime??? if you can help can u plz pm me :)
[11:17] <ttl_> apt get or in the repos?
[11:17] <lstarnes> kalidar: that kind of stuff is off-topic for this channel and possibly this network
[11:17] <kalidar> oh im realy sorry
[11:18] <kalidar> could you direct me to where i could find that information please?
[11:18] <ttl_> Chowder: what made you think that there's a rootkit at the first place?
[11:18] <usr13> kebabskal: Well, I found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877421 and http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.4_Driver_Manually
[11:18] <lstarnes> kalidar: http://irc.netsplit.de and http://searchirc.com both have channel listings for many irc networks
[11:18] <kalidar> thanks alot sorry again :(
[11:19] <usr13> kebabskal: Other than that, I don't know.  I use Nvidia.
[11:20] <Chowder> ttl_, sheer paranoia
[11:20] <Rafpix> hi all
[11:20]  * Chowder puts on a tinfoil hat
[11:20] <kebabskal> usr13: thanks, the card works fine in intrepid. just jaunty that skrews things up. i think its because of the new xorg version used.
[11:20] <ttl_> Chowder: you should get snort and forget about your system security as long as you follow a healthy security style
[11:21] <gordonjcp> Chowder: rkhunter will tell you ;-)
[11:22] <gordonjcp> Chowder: for the most part it's quite hard to get rooted though, unless you're doing something deliberately stupid
[11:25] <Chowder> ttl_, I wouldn't even know how to use it
[11:27] <ttl_> read the manual i guess
[11:27] <Chowder> true
[11:28] <Chowder> I take it that snort has to do with sniffing?
[11:28] <icarus-c> can i run a live cd on ram?
[11:29] <_igel_> hi
[11:30] <espen> Hello all! Anyone who could help me with dovecot???
[11:30] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | espen
[11:30] <icarus-c> can i run a live cd on ram?
[11:31] <DMJC> anyone had a sata hdd die?
[11:31] <oskar-> icarus-c:  without a hard drive, yes
[11:31] <DMJC> I think I just had a 1tb die on me
[11:31] <ttl_> DMJC: what's wrong with it?
[11:31] <DMJC> bios sits on the drive at boot for ages
[11:31] <icarus-c> oskar-: i have load the everything to the ram
[11:31] <DMJC> and I get messages in ubuntu
[11:31] <icarus-c> oskar-: i mean
[11:31] <DMJC> SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
[11:31] <DMJC> [  148.084624] ata1: link online but device misclassified, retrying
[11:31] <DMJC> [  148.084628] ata1: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
[11:31] <DMJC> etc etc
[11:31] <ttl_> DMJC: what brand?
[11:31] <DMJC> seagate
[11:31] <DMJC> 1tb
[11:32] <ttl_> how did you know that it's dead?
[11:32] <DMJC> I don't
[11:32] <DMJC> I'm trying it on different sata ports
[11:32] <ttl_> and?
[11:32] <DMJC> and it's doing the same on all of them
[11:32] <DMJC> bios sits for ages
[11:32] <ttl_> doing what?
[11:32] <DMJC> then moves on
[11:32] <DMJC> ubuntu prints out SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
[11:32] <DMJC> [  148.084624] ata1: link online but device misclassified, retrying
[11:32] <DMJC> [  148.084628] ata1: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
[11:32] <DMJC> when I hotplug it
[11:33] <ttl_> DMJC: what's your processor speed and ram?
[11:33] <sridhar> o
[11:33] <DMJC> dude
[11:33] <DMJC> ttl_
[11:33] <DMJC> my drive model has a high failure rae
[11:33] <DMJC> *rate
[11:34] <DMJC> I just looked it up online, the model number etc matches
[11:34] <sridhar> how to write plugins in c
[11:34] <lstarnes> sridhar: plugins for what?
[11:34] <DMJC> looks like I'm going to be putting in a request for a new drive
[11:34] <ttl_> DMJC: how old is it? and what's your processor and rams?
[11:35] <DMJC> e2220
[11:35] <DMJC> 4gb ddr2 800
[11:36] <ttl_> cache?
[11:36] <DMJC> cpu cache/
[11:36] <sameep> hi , how can i create multiple email accounts (from a text file) from the command line ?
[11:37] <DMJC> 1mb/core
[11:37] <DMJC> 2mb total
[11:37] <WishingMaster> what is the command to uninstall google earth?
[11:37] <icarus-c> WishingMaster: check its doc
[11:38] <ortsvorsteher> WishingMaster: if you installed it from repositories, try "sudo apt-get remove googleearth"
[11:38] <WishingMaster> ortsvorsteher, i will try
[11:38] <icarus-c> WishingMaster: for the bin from google i think just delete the its directory will do
[11:39] <ttl_> DMJC: how did you partition it?
[11:39] <mchelen> sameep, depends what mail server you are using
[11:40] <sameep> thanks , how do I find that out?
[11:40] <DMJC> single large partition
[11:40] <DMJC> fdisk
[11:40] <michael> My firefox starts with no titlebar. I have to hit F11 twice before it comes back
[11:40] <DMJC> and reiserfs
[11:40] <michael> anyone else have this problem?
[11:40] <Psuedo> Greetings
[11:40] <yellabs> hello all
[11:40] <Psuedo> Does Ubuntu support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:40] <ttl_> DMJC: that's pretty dangerous to do for such a huge filesystem
[11:40] <mchelen> michael, does it still happen if you make a new ff profile?
[11:41] <Threetimes> hi, how do i let TilEm and TiLP work together?
[11:41] <yellabs> michael might it be due to compiz / desktop effects?
[11:41] <michael> I haven't tried a new profile yet
[11:41] <WishingMaster> i am unable to uninstall google earth,i get a message in terminal that its not installed
[11:41] <Psuedo> Does Ubuntu support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:41] <yellabs> what program can i use to make my own gnome themes?
[11:41] <michael> yellabs: I don't think compiz is causing it
[11:41] <yellabs> ok
[11:41] <jrib> WishingMaster: how did you install it?
[11:41] <icarus-c> WishingMaster: delete the google-earth directory where you install it
[11:41] <ttl_> DMJC: try using it on different systems, if the same results, then try to repartition it to more smaller ones like 250 each max
[11:41] <jrib> yellabs: art.gnome.org has a tutorial (you use a text editor)
[11:42] <WishingMaster> i added google earth through ubuntu tweaks
[11:42] <ttl_> or 350 gigs max i guess
[11:42] <Psuedo> Does Fedora support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:42] <yellabs> ok text eh...
[11:42] <icarus-c> Psuedo: Fedora?
[11:42] <yellabs> :)
[11:42] <icarus-c> Psuedo: -> #fedora
[11:42] <Psuedo> lol
[11:43] <Psuedo> soz
[11:43] <jrib> WishingMaster: you have to find out what ubuntu tweaks does then :/
[11:43] <Psuedo> I meants Ubuntu
[11:43] <Psuedo> installing both
[11:43] <Psuedo> onto GPT
[11:43] <Psuedo> and want to know if it is possible
[11:43] <jrib> Psuedo: what is a GPT partition?
[11:43] <jrib> !enter | Psuedo
[11:43] <Psuedo> Does Ubuntu support installation onto a GPT partition?
[11:44] <yellabs> is gpt g parted ?
[11:44] <Psuedo> jrib: GPT as opposed to MBR
[11:44] <icarus-c> GUID Partition Table
[11:44] <Psuedo> (partitioning tables)
[11:44] <yellabs> ah
[11:45] <Psuedo> yeh
[11:45] <Threetimes> Psuedo: I think ubuntu itself won't be a problem. What could be a problem is your bootloader...
[11:45] <Psuedo> Thanks
[11:45] <Psuedo> time to go on #grub
[11:46] <Threetimes> I'm not sure, however...
[11:48] <kinja-sheep> Could sombody hp m googl for my issu with missing ltt. I can us anything I suppos but not th ltt.  Look.  abcd f.
[11:50] <kinja-sheep> Do on undrstand what I'm saying abov? Plas googl for m.  Missing lttr (E), but not smallr (E).
[11:50] <bazhang> kinja-sheep, try another keyboard
[11:50] <jrib> kinja-sheep: google isn't case sensitive by the way
[11:50] <kinja-sheep> bazhang: Laptop.  It works finE in thE past.
[11:51] <acicula> seems broken now
[11:51] <kinja-sheep> ThEn this startEd to happEn for no rEason.  ThE uppEr E work but small E to no avail?
[11:51] <bazhang> kinja-sheep, as has been suggested you can use E to google with.
[11:51] <acicula> maybe a funky keyboard map loaded?
[11:51] <kinja-sheep> bazhang: Okay.  acicula -- I don't know.  How would I confirm that?
[11:52] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: do you have numlock on?
[11:53] <michael> I removed localstore.rdf and now firefox starts with a title bar.
[11:53] <realsifo> helo
[11:53] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: It was off.  I tEstEd it with on/off and nothing.
[11:53] <ziroday> michael: creating a new profle works too
[11:54] <michael> ziroday: A new profile will require me to back up all my bookmarks and restore them though right?
[11:54] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: does it happen on a livecd?
[11:54] <ziroday> michael: true
[11:54] <sameep> @mchelen : i use exim
[11:54] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: No.  I havE using thE IbEx for somE timE now.  This just happEn rEcEnTly.
[11:55] <realsifo> please help me
[11:55] <mchelen> sameep, probably gotta look at the documentation for that server
[11:55] <sameep> ok thanks
[11:55] <[BDSM]SexyTime> hello folks
[11:55] <realsifo> my ubuntu grub missing
[11:55] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: how about a new user?
[11:55] <[BDSM]SexyTime> i have a question
[11:55] <ziroday> realsifo: you can reinstall it
[11:56] <[BDSM]SexyTime> does anyone one of you know the game "secret of the solstice"?
[11:56] <ziroday> !fixgrub | realsifo
[11:56] <realsifo> i have two os in my computer
[11:56] <bazhang> !ot | [BDSM]SexyTime
[11:56] <AdamDH> any one here know about rescuing a disk with ddrescue or is this the wrong place to ask? I am using a ubuntu live cd to do the recovery
[11:56] <[BDSM]SexyTime> The question would be, why it won't run under wine
[11:56] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: I didn't crEatE a nEw usEr account or you wantEd mE to?
[11:56] <realsifo> ziroday: i reinstall my windows xp. then my ubuntu is gone
[11:56] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: yes, I want you too
[11:56] <[BDSM]SexyTime> I didn't mean to ask things about the game itself
[11:57] <ziroday> realsifo: read the info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[11:57] <realsifo> thanks
[11:57] <[BDSM]SexyTime> no one?
[11:57] <rizitis> [BDSM]SexyTime: not all games playing under wine...
[11:58] <bazhang> !appdb > [BDSM]SexyTime
[11:58] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: ProblEm.   I still have an issue with letter 'e'.
[12:02] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: I should sign in.
[12:02] <ziroday> kinja-sheep: do you have an issue with a new user?
[12:03] <mint3> i am trying to install ubuntu on my pc
[12:03] <mint3> which version do you suggest?
[12:03] <oskar-> mint3:  8.10
[12:03] <mint3> is it kde ?
[12:04] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: No.  It workEd accordingly.
[12:04] <jrib> mint3: if you get kubuntu, it will have kde by default, yes
[12:04] <kinja-sheep> ziroday: BorkEd kEymap?
[12:04] <jrib> kinja-sheep: does xev show anything when you press 'e'?
[12:04] <mint3> what if i download ubuntu what will i get ?
[12:05] <mint3> am here --->http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
[12:05] <jrib> mint3: gnome by default, but you can install kde later
[12:05] <kinja-sheep> jrib: xEv?  YEs.  I can typE (small) E on tExt Editor just finE.
[12:05] <jrib> mint3: kubuntu is ubuntu with a different set of default packages
[12:05] <mint3> i want ubuntu with kde
[12:05] <mint3> i dont want kubuntu tho
[12:05] <jrib> kinja-sheep: oh, so where exactly doesn't it work?  Everywhere except a text editor?
[12:05] <oskar-> mint3:  then go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu
[12:05] <jrib> mint3: kubuntu *is* ubuntu with kde
[12:05] <kinja-sheep> jrib: EvErything.
[12:06] <mint3> jrib, what do u use ?
[12:06] <kinja-sheep> jrib: FirEFox, XChat, Etc.
[12:06] <jrib> kinja-sheep: but you just said it worked in a text editor and in xev, right?
[12:06] <mint3> what would u guys suggest? kde or gnome ?
[12:06] <kinja-sheep> jrib: In thE nEwly frEsh account I crEatEd.
[12:06] <sprinkmeier__> mint3, if in doubt, stick to the defaults.
[12:06] <sprinkmeier__> !best | mint3
[12:07] <jrib> mint3: that's personal preference.  If you're not sure, then install ubuntu and afterwards install kde (install the kubuntu-desktop package) and try them both
[12:07] <jrib> kinja-sheep: so in the old account it doesn't work at all (not even in xev or a text editor) and in the new account it only works in xev and a text editor?
[12:08] <mint3> sprinkmeier__ - true, defaults will do then
[12:08] <kinja-sheep> jrib: YEs.  I'll try rEboot onE morE timE..  MaybE somEthing wEnt wrong on thE last onE.
[12:09] <mint3> cheers mate
[12:09] <marco> i'm hungry!
[12:09] <marco> xD
[12:09] <maxagaz> how to disable Ctrl and Alt on my computer ?
[12:09] <sprinkmeier__> mint3, but as jrib suggested, give KDE a try (once you've gotten ubuntu up and running) just to see what's different. Then choose.
[12:12] <marco> why do you want to disable ctrl and alt???
[12:12] <xxtjaxx> hey gguys which drivers are needed for canon printers
[12:12] <|0_C1NZ4|> hey guys, someone could help me with the updagrading to ubuntu 8.10?
[12:12] <jrib> !printing | xxtjaxx
[12:12] <jrib> xxtjaxx: I just plug mine in, turn it on, and ubuntu detects it and configures it automagically
[12:13] <xxtjaxx> jrib yeah thats standard but at my printer(a canon i250) the openoffice syas it failed
[12:14] <maciek> ;D
[12:14] <jrib> xxtjaxx: did you check the links from ubottu?
[12:14] <kinja-sheep> jrib: Tsting.  No it didn't work. Somthing is awful wrong. Lol...
[12:14] <Guest80087> Hi
[12:14] <jrib> kinja-sheep: I have no idea what "it" is
[12:14] <Threetimes> xxtjaxx: try somthing else than OOo, try gEdit for example
[12:15] <mefisto__> kinja-sheep: do you not have another keyboard? maybe a crumb fell in there or a bug died inside it?
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> jrib: I can't usE thE lEttEr (lowErcasE) E but I can usE (uppErcasE) E whEn I hold thE shift kEy.
[12:15] <lstarnes> kinja-sheep: can you do a lowercase using caps lock with shift+e?
[12:16] <jrib> kinja-sheep: but there were differences between a fresh new user and the old one right?
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> mEfisto__:  No.  It workEd fiNE in nEw account.
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> jrib: YEs.
[12:16] <jrib> kinja-sheep: I thought you said it didn't work fine in the new account...
[12:16] <jrib> !away > Mud|afk
[12:16] <kinja-sheep> lstarnes: e <--- IT WORKD.
[12:17] <kinja-sheep> jrib: No. Opposit.  It workEd in nEw account, but not my main account.
[12:17] <jrib> kinja-sheep: then it's a configuration issue
[12:17] <kraut> moin
[12:17] <kinja-sheep> jrib: I think somEthing wEnt wrong at load timE.  KEyMap, maybE.
[12:18] <hitman_beginner> find PDF file about networking !
[12:19] <hitman_beginner> please help
[12:19] <jrib> hitman_beginner: what exactly are you looking for?
[12:19] <|0_C1NZ4|> I have just updagraded my ubuntu to 8.10 and the X was messed up!
[12:19] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: expand on what you mean by "messed up"
[12:20] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: ok, it's hard to explain but ok...
[12:21] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: i can see the X screen (gdm) like a shadow, in gdm there is a solid background color
[12:21] <|0_C1NZ4|> but some parts, like the login, are replaced bt a strange pixeled efect
[12:21] <|0_C1NZ4|> is I try startx, I can see the "shadow" of the upper bar
[12:22] <kinja-sheep> |0_C1NZ4|: ScrEEnshot?
[12:22] <|0_C1NZ4|> but the system is not effectively loaded
[12:22] <JONT> hi
[12:22] <|0_C1NZ4|> it's not possible use the system
[12:22] <|0_C1NZ4|> I'm another computer
[12:23] <knut> does anyone have a link to a guide in speeding up ubuntu 8.10?
[12:23] <kinja-sheep> jrib: How would I load a nEw configuration fil?
[12:23] <jrib> kinja-sheep: you just delete the configuration you made on the old account
[12:23] <lackas> hi how to extract nrg file in ubuntu hardy??? help... :(
[12:24] <tuxFan> hey guys whats de ctrl+alt+del for ubuntu if there is one
[12:24] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: the ubnutu page http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support said something about video support problem with nvidia, but I cannot understand well it...
[12:24] <jrib> tuxFan: what do you want it to do?
[12:24] <tuxFan> close programs
[12:24] <kinja-sheep> jrib: WhErE is that?  I don't want to dElEtE EvErything in ~/ dirEctory.
[12:24] <Threetimes> hi, how do i let TilEm and TiLP work together?
[12:24] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: what card do you have?
[12:24] <jrib> tuxFan: system -> administration -> system monitor.  But it's probably easier to just run « xkill » and then click on the offending program
[12:25] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: I don't know... I can still use the prompet
[12:25] <mefisto__> tuxFan: ctrl-esc ?
[12:25] <jrib> kinja-sheep: well first have you looked at the keyboard preferences and seen if anything obvious is wrong?
[12:25] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: can I see this with any command?
[12:25] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: lspci
[12:25] <|0_C1NZ4|> ok
[12:25] <tuxFan> run xkill can you explain.. srry newbie here
[12:25] <jrib> tuxFan: then just use the first method I gave you
[12:26] <mefisto__> tuxFan: just try ctrl-esc, I think that's what you want. a list of running processes
[12:26] <tuxFan> system monitor
[12:26] <tuxFan> sweet
[12:26] <tuxFan> thank you
[12:26] <jrib> !iso | lackas
[12:26] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: isa and pci bridge and vga cntroller point to VIA technologies Inc
[12:27] <lackas> thanks jrib  :)
[12:27] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: then it's not an nvidia issue :)  Search bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs about via I suppose.  I don't know anything about it
[12:27] <jrib> |0_C1NZ4|: you may want to use pastebinit to share /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the channel  as well
[12:28] <|0_C1NZ4|> jrib: ok, thankyou... I saw a similar problem in the forum, but it was about nvidia... but now I have plus info, thankyou!
[12:28] <coder2> Hello. Please help me wihh SAA7134L-based tuner - I cannot hear any sound from it, only video
[12:29] <coder2> I've already googled through many pages about it but nothing helped
[12:29] <kinja-sheep> jrib: EvErything sms to b in ordEr.
[12:31] <drive> kicce
[12:32] <tgpraveen> hey guys my bluetooth dongle used to work in hardy but doesnt work either in intrepid or jaunty
[12:32] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	in jaunty/intrepid if boot with 2.6.24 kernel then everything works
[12:32] <tgpraveen> 	<tgpraveen>	i think i once saw a bug report related to this and many ppl were facing this problem
[12:33] <bazhang> tgpraveen, are you using jaunty now
[12:33] <tgpraveen> well both jaunty and intrepicd
[12:34] <bazhang> tgpraveen, what kernel is that from
[12:34] <tgpraveen> which i have 2.6.24 dont knw from which version. then i have 2.6.28 for jaunty and.27 for intrepid i think
[12:35] <tgpraveen> but only with.24 does my dongle work properly
[12:35] <bazhang> tgpraveen, what do you mean both jaunty and intrepid
[12:35] <tgpraveen> with others the dongle gets detected fine . but i cant send /receive files alwyas get errors.
[12:35] <tgpraveen> bazhang: on different pcs dude
[12:35] <brutus> Help! My vlc plays wmv video, but there is no sound...What should I do?
[12:36] <bazhang> tgpraveen, and how are you booting that kernel (where is it from)
[12:36] <coder2> brutus: Do you have more than one soundcards ?
[12:36] <administrator> i have a doubt related to wine. can anybody help me?
[12:36] <brutus> coder2, I have just one
[12:36] <user____> brutus: you could pastebin a debug log (start vlc on the command line)
[12:36] <tgpraveen> slection of kernel is frm GRUB
[12:36] <quibbler> !ask | administrator
[12:37] <coder2> brutus: Then, I cannot help, sorry
[12:37] <brutus> user____, Here is the output:  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `wmap'.
[12:37] <brutus> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[12:37] <bigboy> what doubt with wine?
[12:37] <administrator> i want to share a wine installed application for all the users
[12:37] <bazhang> tgpraveen, could we see your sources.list please and the output of uname -a on the system in question
[12:37] <bazhang> tgpraveen, paste.ubuntu.com (not in channel)
[12:37] <coder2> brutus: It just no suitable codec problem
[12:38] <brutus> coder2, I already have w32codecs installed (I believe only this package is required to play wmv...?)
[12:38] <mneptok> brutus: those have no bearing on VLC