[11:09] <Kayin> Yeah, I see a whole bunch of *.pid files that have the same names of services I already run such as sshd and apache2 and such.
[11:09] <IntuitiveNipple> fuffal0: the xorg log reports it all - but I can't remember where I saw it earlier today :(
[11:09] <the_rick> Dormot,  hold on just a sec...
[11:09] <Dormot> lupine_85, what u mean
[11:10] <fuffal0> IntuitiveNipple - i think it's using the wrong driver tho and i don't know what/how to tell it otherwise
[11:10] <IntuitiveNipple> fuffal0: It'll tell you the device, and from that you can Google or whatever for the correct driver
[11:11] <IntuitiveNipple> I did that earlier and now I've got my TwinHead dual monitors running just as in Windows
[11:11] <mena> i installl the kopote and it had alot of erros is that bec its just for kubuntu
[11:11] <the_rick> Dormot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/820/
[11:11] <mena> not working on ubuntu
[11:11] <Dormot> the rick i thnk the masks are wrong
[11:11] <the_rick> you forgot a few lines I think
[11:12] <Dormot> comment = Users profiles
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   path = /home/samba/profiles
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   guest ok = no
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   browseable = no
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   create mask = 0600
[11:12] <Dormot> ;   directory mask = 0700
[11:12] <Dormot> and u gave me diff masks
[11:13] <the_rick> did you see my post
[11:13] <iheartsynaptic> hi.... i'm trying to convert from windows... but struggling with wireless is shaking my faith...
[11:13] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: what's the problem
[11:13] <the_rick> try it out exactly without leaving anything out
[11:13] <the_rick> you were missing the guest ok param
[11:14] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia: how do i start? Just to make sure I haven't missed any steps
[11:14] <Past_Images> hi guys can anyone help me out. i installed ubuntu on a hardrive that i then fitted to a different machine and it's not booting, althought i do get as far as the splash screen
[11:14] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: is there wireless devices listed if you run iwconfig
[11:14] <thoreauputic> !wifi| iheartsynaptic
[11:14] <ubotu> iheartsynaptic: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:14] <Dormot> ok i tried it
[11:14] <Dormot> lets ee
[11:14] <Dormot> see
[11:15] <brutopia> Past_Images: try recovery mode
[11:15] <the_rick> don't forget you will have to do a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:15] <Dormot> yea
[11:16] <Past_Images> ok this is the error msg in recovery mode: /bin/sh; can't access tty; Job control turned off 'initframfs)
[11:17] <Neno> hello, i got a question, hope i can get an answer this way...
[11:17] <Dormot> still dont work
[11:17] <Dormot> i dunno whats wrong
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Neno: don't ask to ask - just ask :)
[11:17] <the_rick> I'm pretty sure the mask is right
[11:18] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia: sorry for the wait... What's the difference between amd64 and i386
[11:18] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: 32 bits :)
[11:18] <Dormot> is there suppose to be "guest" line somewhere?
[11:18] <Neno> i downloaded the ubuntu 6.10 dekstop edition (1 cd) - for the 64bit architecture, booted from the cd, and wanted to install it right away... The installation went smoothly, just until the 94% - installation of grub...
[11:18] <the_rick> Dormot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/820/
[11:18] <Neno> and then: fatal error...
[11:18] <Dormot> i did that exactly
[11:18] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: what kind of processor do you have
[11:19] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: ok, i'm not using amd64 so i should choose 1386?
[11:19] <iheartsynaptic> *i386
[11:19] <brutopia> choose i386 then
[11:19] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: umm - youcan use either
[11:19] <the_rick> the publc line should take care of it...
[11:19] <soup_> how can I tell apt-get that the drive I installed from is no longer available and I want it to go to the net?
[11:19] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: i386 will be easier in a number of ways
[11:19] <Neno> i tried to install ubuntu few times, and every time it stops at 94%? Any hints?
[11:19] <the_rick> hmm, well, that works on my system.
[11:19] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: ah sorry I misread - yes i386
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Neno: what's the error message?
[11:20] <Past_Images> is the error fixable guys?
[11:20] <Neno> don't know the exact message, but my guess is there's a problem with grub installation, more precise, the location of grub-installation
[11:21] <Neno> at the beginning, in step 4 or 5 (don't know..) the default location for installing grub is set to: (hd0)...
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Neno: grub normally installs to the MBR - and "fatal" doesn't tell us much :)
[11:21] <Dormot> idunno
[11:21] <Dormot> ill just try some other time
[11:21] <yoshiznit123> is there a way to play a wav file backwards? gnome-sound-recorder doesn't do it
[11:21] <Neno> what's the ekvivalent of MBR in linux - hd0 or sd0?
[11:21] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia, thoreauputic: ok, so I download the package then apt-get install as root?
[11:22] <Neno> or something else?
[11:22] <Dormot> backmaskin eh
[11:22] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: sorry I haven't followed the whole convo - what are you installing?
[11:22] <Jowi> soup_, not sure you can. but you can apt-get -d to download only. then enter /var/cache/apt/archives and transfer the files to the other computer through other means
[11:22] <brutopia> iheartsynaptic: just use the GUI package manager shipped with ubuntu
[11:22] <brutopia> then you don't have to know about i386 or amd64
[11:23] <Neno> MBR for the older ata HD-s is hd0, anr for SATA drives is sd0 - is this right?
[11:23] <Dormot> ok how do i register my nickname?
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Neno: depends on what kind of hard drive - a sata drive would be sd0 I think, for instance
[11:23] <Dormot> !nickname
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Dormot> dont work!!
[11:23] <ghjmgj> Hello
[11:23] <ghjmgj> !list
[11:23] <jpjacobs> Dormot: /msg nickserv register password i think
[11:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:23] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: i'm trying to install ndiswrapper and ndisgtk to work my wireless adapter
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Dormot:  /msg nickserv register <password>
[11:23] <Neno> is it possible to change the default location of grub install in desktop edition?
[11:23] <iheartsynaptic> brutopia: is it the synaptic package manager?
[11:23] <Dormot> ok
[11:24] <ghjmgj> !list
[11:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:24] <thoreauputic> !synaptic| iheartsynaptic
[11:24] <ubotu> iheartsynaptic: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:24] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: your nick suggests you know about it :)
[11:24] <Past_Images> hello if anyone can please help me with this error on boot: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initframfs)
[11:25] <Dormot> rick, can you see that?
[11:25] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: heheheh. i've been trying to install the ndiswrapper-utils for a few days now. but can't seem to get it to work. synpatic looks easy but it cant be installed using synaptic.
[11:26] <ghjmgj> hello
[11:26] <ghjmgj> !list
[11:26] <Dormot> !list
[11:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:26] <the_rick> Dormot, let's try one more thing...
[11:26] <Dormot> ok
[11:26] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic:  sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:26] <the_rick> find the line in your smb.conf file where it says ;security = user
[11:27] <the_rick> or just security = user
[11:27] <the_rick> and change it to this
[11:27] <the_rick> security = share
[11:27] <Dormot> lemme open it again
[11:27] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: what happens is that is says unable to find package ndiswrapper-utils
[11:27] <iheartsynaptic> *it
[11:27] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[11:28] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:28] <PORDO> what are the restricted packages called for playing .avi and such?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> iheartsynaptic: it's in main - check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <PORDO> i have the lines in my sources.list
[11:29] <Dormot> for user name
[11:29] <Dormot> what do i put
[11:29] <the_rick> did you do a restart?
[11:29] <iheartsynaptic> thoreauputic: ok, a few websites uses make command, is it the same for ubuntu?
[11:29] <the_rick> it shouldn't ask you for a user name
[11:29] <Dormot> yes
[11:29] <Dormot> damn
[11:30] <Dormot> i did restart i
[11:30] <Dormot> tt
[11:30] <IntuitiveNipple> How can I set separate Wallpapers for each of my monitors, or have it repeat the same Wallpaper on each?
[11:31] <PORDO> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[11:31] <PORDO> can someone tell me why this isn't working?
[11:32] <Dormot> i give up, doesnt work
[11:32] <jpjacobs> PORDO, perhaps thepackage doesn't exist. try seaching packages in synaptic, or with apt-cache search <package>
[11:33] <gharz> how do i install .tar.gz? i'm planning to update my firefox by downloading from the site. i typed tar -zxvf file.tar.gz... is this correct?
[11:33] <Neno> question: is sd0 = sda? --> the location of MBR on sata disk?
[11:33] <jpjacobs> Neno, yes
[11:33] <DarthLappy> gharz: That should extract the archive, yes.
[11:33] <PORDO> jpjacobs i did apt-cache search.
[11:34] <jpjacobs> gharz, you'll b e better of not installing tar.gz's unless absolutely necessary, use apt-get or synaptic instead.
[11:34] <gharz> DarthLappy, it would only extract the file? uhmmm... i'll check on how i can install it.
[11:34] <PORDO> jpjacobs doh! the name was just a little off. thx
[11:34] <DarthLappy> gharz: There'd be instructions inside.
[11:34] <gharz> jpjacobs, apt-get doesn't have the latest version yet
[11:34] <thoreauputic> !ff|gharz
[11:34] <ubotu> gharz: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:34] <gharz> DarthLappy, thanks
[11:34] <Past_Images> ok just gonna reinstall with dapper instead of edgy. thanks anyway
[11:35] <Dormot> thnx for help rick
[11:37] <jpjacobs> gharz, seems to me the info on that wikipage thoreauputic was talking about is a little out dated. they still talk about FF 1.5. i would be carefull...
[11:38] <gharz> ok
[11:38] <gharz> thanks
[11:38] <fromvega> Hello!
[11:38] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: the principles for installing the latest ff are still the same
[11:38] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: and if you are running edgy you don't need to
[11:39] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: dapper still uses 1.5 ( 1.5.09 currently I think)
[11:39] <jpjacobs> could be...
[11:39] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: no could be about it
[11:40] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: I just followed that wiki today on dapper
[11:41] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: if you don't use dpkg-divert etc your default browser will still be the Ubuntu version
[11:41] <TLE> Hey I have a problem. Firefox wont start. I tried runninf sh -x /usr/bin/firefox to see if I could figure out what was wrong. It complained about a syntax error in line 121
[11:41] <jpjacobs> thoreauputic, ok it is like that... but if you use dapper, and you use it because it's rock-stable, then you don't go udateing by hand the about most critical (meaning the package that if it's vulerable can give acces to your sytem) by hand.
[11:41] <TLE> this line looks like this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH/:\/usr\/lib\/mozilla-thunderbird:/:}
[11:41] <jpjacobs> -by hand
[11:41] <TLE> can anybody see if there is anything wrong ?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: umm, the mozilla ff <IP_ADDRESS> is stable, and the instructions put it in /opt, and the old ff remains
[11:42] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: it isn't really needed though, true
[11:43] <Balsamic_Chicken> I only participte 4 GI space for the Ubantu, and now it's complaining don't have enough space, only 156 Mb left, what should I do??
[11:43] <tiffany123> Hi
[11:43] <jpjacobs> Balsamic_Chicken, apt-get clean for a starter
[11:44] <tiffany123> Because I have to reconfigure my network I deactivatet the WLAN Encryption. Then I deleted the ASCII-Key in my ubuntu system prefences. But I cant connect to the wireless network now, how to fix it ?
[11:45] <tux> is there any way to view jpgs in console?
[11:45] <DarthLappy> tux: How would that work...?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> jpjacobs: re: your comments - if you don't understand what the wiki page instructions mean, then I agree that you shouldn't follow them blindly. I do, so I feel fine using them
[11:45] <jpjacobs> tux, if you have framebuffer, you can use fbi
[11:45] <Balsamic_Chicken> jpjacobs what does apt-get clean do
[11:45] <Balsamic_Chicken> jpjacobs how could i add more space tho
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Balsamic_Chicken: cleans the cached packages out
[11:46] <tux> jpjacobs, sorry whats that?
[11:46] <jpjacobs> Balsamic_Chicken, it throws away the packagefiles, you dowloaded. (it doesn't uninstall them, just the archives)
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Balsamic_Chicken: gives you more space
[11:46] <Balsamic_Chicken> thoreauputic is there some way to increase the size of the paritition
[11:46] <tux> DarthLappy, any way to view jpgs or other files in console?
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Balsamic_Chicken: yes, you can do it from a live CD with gparted - but you need adjoining space on the disc
[11:47] <jpjacobs> tux, put vga=791 in your /boot/grub/menu.lst on the optionsline (look in the comments)
[11:47] <tux> jpjacobs, i hav e done that
[11:47] <jpjacobs> tux, then you'll have frambuffer support. now you can install fbi (an imageviewer for framebuffer), and view your images
[11:50] <Kayin> Gah, still no luck with the tomcat5 thing.
[11:51] <thoreauputic> !msg
[11:51] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[11:52] <fawaz> hi allllllllll
[11:52] <jpjacobs> hi
[11:52] <cherva> can anyone help me with installing of WINE with ./configure I get checking for C compiler default output file name...
[11:52] <cherva> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:52] <emss> hello, i keep getting this error when I run glxinfo ro try to start tremulous: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"., I have apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy and have edited xorg.conf to use nvidia over nv
[11:53] <jpjacobs> cherva, no need to comile, wine is in the repos
[11:53] <jpjacobs> !wine
[11:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:53] <cherva> i know but i want to install it this way
[11:53] <fawaz> can someone help me please i need a fever
[11:53] <fawaz> ???????????
[11:53] <emss> a fever?
[11:53] <jpjacobs> !ask|fawaz
[11:53] <ubotu> fawaz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:54] <metres> favor !?
[11:54] <cherva> anyone installed flash 8 pro with WINE ?
[11:54] <jpjacobs> cherva, have you installed build-essential?
[11:54] <fawaz> i want to practice for a CCNA (cisco certified networking ass ) exam  are there any semulators ?
[11:54] <Past_Images> cherva, can't be done, only flash 8 basic
[11:54] <Kayin> Okay, here's my problem, I installed tomcat5 yesterday and after the installation it worked fine, but when I try to start it now (with sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start) it looks like it starts, but when I status it later it says the service is not running but the pid file exists, even though there's nothing tomcat related in /var/run
 no I'll apt-get it now
[11:55] <emss> hello?
[11:56] <fromvega> I have installed Ubuntu Server 6.10, can I revert it to 6.06 without losing the current configuration?
[11:56] <TLE> could someone please paste their /usr/bin/firefox script in a pastebin, in a standard updated 32 bit edgy version
[11:57] <cyphase> does anyone know of a "screensaver" that lets you see your desktop, but asks to unlock when you try to do anything?
[11:57] <jpjacobs> fromvega... never tried that. but you could change all edgy's to dappers in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do apt-get install distupgrade. but i don't know wheter that will work or not
[11:58] <cherva> thx  build-essential apt-geted and flex and bison too now WINE is ./configure-ed :)
[11:58] <TLE> fromvega: you rally should try and look in the wiki, up- and downgrades can to very wrong if they are not done correctly
[11:58] <TLE> really*
[11:59] <fromvega> tks!
[11:59] <ubaba> Hi
[11:59] <ubaba> I cant connect with WireLess
[12:00] <ubaba> How can I config
[12:00] <emss> I get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". :(
[12:00] <thoreauputic> !wifi| ubaba
[12:00] <ubotu> ubaba: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:00] <ubaba> Laptop Conpaq V3000
[12:00] <jpjacobs> emms nvidia, or ati?
[12:01] <emss> jpjacobs: nvidia I have nvidia-glx-legacy installed
[12:01] <jpjacobs> emms then you need: nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules-<some version>
[12:02] <emss> jpjacobs: I ran apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:02] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <cyphase> Basically, I want to be able to lock the screen without a screensaver, and with everything continuing to look normal, e.g. the time apple isn't frozen, any notifications still popup, etc
[12:02] <jpjacobs> uhu, you need the non legacy i think
[12:02] <emss> jpjacobs: no this is a legacy card and in debian I used the nvidia-glx-legacy package
[12:02] <jpjacobs> ok
[12:03] <Kayin> Does anybody have any experience with running Apache Tomcat?
[12:03] <Past_Images> hi guys i need an old distro to install on an old box which wont boot the dapper livecd, it needs to be easy to install good with old hardware and be easy to use, we only use it for a screensaver in a shop window so any suggestions? it does need to have an easy picture slideshow screensaver and also it's go no internet connection....
[12:03] <jpjacobs> emms, take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see that the car uses nvidia, that dri is _not_ loaded , and glx is.
[12:04] <DiKKy> i have an awkward problem, after attemtting to copy some 15gigabytez from one usb disk(fat32) to another (ntfs) i know is experimental and it didnt work, no harm to any data so far, however i am now out of space in m relatively small home directory. And no matter ow many files i move and delete it doesnt affect the size does anyone know if there is some cache file problem ?
[12:04] <emss> jpjacobs: well I have Load "glx" in xorg.conf and Load "dri" commented out
[12:04] <SurfnKid> hello
[12:04] <SurfnKid> my desktop files are gone
[12:04] <SurfnKid> how can i refresh the desktop
[12:05] <jpjacobs> emms, look at the output of lsmod|grep nvidia, is it loaded?
[12:05] <rysiek|pl> guys, got a problem here - suddenly there are 300+ directories on my / (ext3), which are shown by ls -l  as: ?--------- ?  ?    ?     ?       ? name
[12:05] <adaptr> SurfnKid: if they are *gone* then refreshing the desktop won't do much
[12:05] <DiKKy> the thing is i am not able to login to my gui
[12:05] <emss> jpjacobs: yes, I have used these drivers before
[12:05] <jpjacobs> SurfnKid, tried logging out and back in?
[12:05] <DiKKy> i need my gui for real actual work
[12:05] <DiKKy> can anyone help ??
[12:05] <SurfnKid> adaptr, theyre not gone, its the second time today
[12:05] <SurfnKid> some app just freezes
[12:05] <jpjacobs> emss, then i don't know what could be wrong
[12:05] <ubaba> How can I change some desktop icons like that: folders, hd icons,...
[12:06] <SurfnKid> jpjacobs, yes but im downloading something and its half way
[12:06] <adaptr> SurfnKid: I assume you mean files *on* your desktop
[12:06] <Sir_Penguin> Hi everyone, just a really quick question :)
[12:06] <SurfnKid> adaptr, yeap, did it earlier, not sure if its nautilus or what
[12:06] <emss> jpjacobs: ok
[12:06] <SurfnKid> adaptr, maybe killing some app and reloading it
[12:06] <emss> jpjacobs: I will us nvidia legacy.run and see if that works
[12:06] <Sir_Penguin> I need to download the Ubuntu source for NdisWrapper using the internet but I currently cannot get the internet in Ubuntu, is there some other place I can get it easily?
[12:06] <jpjacobs> Dikky what errors do you get in /var/log/ (in the xorg on dunno what it's called)
[12:06] <adaptr> DiKKy: you probably can't login because there's no space left in your home directroy.. it won't be ableto start you a session in that case, but this would be of the "more than a little rare" variety
[12:07] <jpjacobs> DiKKy, the lines with E infront of them
[12:07] <DiKKy> yes adaptr thats correct
[12:07] <DiKKy> i get an error message
[12:07] <DiKKy> gdm says
[12:07] <DiKKy> check file privz
[12:07] <DiKKy> and/or
[12:07] <DiKKy> no space left
[12:07] <DiKKy> but
[12:07] <DiKKy> i am unable
[12:07] <adaptr> DiKKy: then you really need to move or delete some files from your home dir
[12:07] <DiKKy> to free up any space
[12:07] <DiKKy> i have been doing that
[12:07] <ubaba> Where I can get look&feel icons for ubuntu
[12:08] <DiKKy> i have an awkward problem, after attemtting to copy some 15gigabytez from one usb disk(fat32) to another (ntfs) i know is experimental and it didnt work, no harm to any data so far, however i am now out of space in m relatively small home directory. And no matter ow many files i move and delete it doesnt affect the size does anyone know if there is some cache file problem ?
[12:08] <adaptr> well, then it looks like you're stuck - why would you not be able to delete files in your own home dir ? what happens when you try ?
[12:08] <DiKKy> they disappear
[12:08] <adaptr> !icons | ubaba
[12:08] <ubotu> ubaba: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:08] <DiKKy> ive doublechecked file privz
[12:08] <ubaba> I want to change some icons on my latop
[12:08] <DiKKy> either that
[12:08] <adaptr> hrpmh
[12:08] <DiKKy> or
[12:08] <jpjacobs> Dikky, they prollyt are in the trashcan
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> anybody?
[12:08] <DiKKy> um
[12:09] <DiKKy> if u paid any attention
[12:09] <DiKKy> u would notice
[12:09] <adaptr> me ! me !
[12:09] <DiKKy> that i have no gui
[12:09] <DiKKy> i am currently using another computer as i couldnt even start irssi on it
[12:09] <DiKKy> there is 0 bytes available
[12:09] <SurfnKid> i think its nautilus
[12:09] <DiKKy> if i delete something
[12:09] <DiKKy> no matter how big
[12:09] <adaptr> DiKKy: and you need a GUI for ....?
[12:09] <DiKKy> there is still 0 bytes
[12:09] <DiKKy> for WORK
[12:09] <DiKKy> besides i cant do anything with the cli either
[12:09] <DiKKy> except deleting files
[12:09] <jpjacobs> Dikky, then log in on a console, use ls to view directory contents, cd to ge to a dir, rm to remove files, and man to look up what the commands mean.
[12:10] <DiKKy> i know
[12:10] <DiKKy> ive been doing that
[12:10] <jpjacobs> ah right...
[12:10] <DiKKy> there is some cach problem probly related to the erroneous copy attempt between two usb disks
[12:10] <jpjacobs> then you really got yourself a weird problem
[12:10] <DiKKy> OR my file database (updatedb) is too large
[12:10] <Past_Images> hello anyone?
[12:10] <DiKKy> i dont know where its located though
[12:10] <jpjacobs> !ask
[12:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:11] <adaptr> DiKKy: that makes no sense - updatedb/locate would never screw up like this
[12:11] <DiKKy> well
[12:11] <DiKKy> my / is kinda filled
[12:11] <DiKKy> yesterday
[12:11] <DiKKy> it was
[12:11] <DiKKy> 500 mb free space
[12:11] <adaptr> DiKKy: and it's not *your* "file database" - it's just a search index
[12:11] <DiKKy> then i tried the copy operation
[12:11] <DiKKy> and after i rebooted
[12:11] <DiKKy> this shit happened
[12:11] <DiKKy> yeah but it takes space
[12:12] <adaptr> DiKKy: reboot into single user mode, and the space problem on /root will be gone - root always has 5% free space on the root filesystem
[12:12] <Sir_Penguin> Okay, I've finally found the source/
[12:12] <Sir_Penguin> :)
[12:12] <Sir_Penguin> Cya.
[12:12] <DiKKy> single user mode
[12:12] <DiKKy> what runlevel is this
[12:12] <adaptr> DiKKy: "single"
[12:12] <SurfnKid> it was galeon
[12:12] <DiKKy> init single ?
[12:12] <cypher1_> DiKKy: i think "0"
[12:12] <DiKKy> ha ha
[12:12] <jpjacobs> isn't it init s?
[12:12] <DiKKy> <3
[12:13] <DiKKy> ill try that bbiab
[12:13] <adaptr> DiKKy: that should work, yes
[12:13] <cypher1_> DiKKy: give single as parameter while booting..
[12:13] <DiKKy> when
[12:13] <SurfnKid> adaptr, galeon was holding nautilus
[12:13] <DiKKy> in the grub menu ?
[12:13] <adaptr> SurfnKid: that's just stupid - they're both browsers
[12:13] <tiffany> Hi
[12:14] <cypher1_> DiKKy: at the grub menu .. choose to edit options.. add "single" at the end and boot
[12:14] <tiffany> I lost my ICQ Password from GAIM, waht to do now ? :-/
[12:14] <SurfnKid> adaptr, soon as galeon was killed, nautilus was released and the files automatically refreshed
[12:14] <SurfnKid> adaptr, oh weird
[12:14] <DiKKy> well
[12:14] <SurfnKid> :)
[12:14] <DiKKy> im root now
[12:14] <tiffany> I have save the password in gaim so is there an option to read out ?
[12:14] <DiKKy> good
[12:17] <DiKKy> but the thing is
[12:17] <DiKKy> df -h gives output
[12:17] <DiKKy> size 9.2gb
[12:17] <DiKKy> used 9.0gb
[12:17] <DiKKy> avail 0
[12:17] <DiKKy> but ok
[12:17] <DiKKy> rebooting
[12:17] <adaptr> DiKKy: yes, but that's not true for you at this moment
[12:17] <DiKKy> right
[12:17] <DiKKy> k
[12:17] <DiKKy> testing with single
[12:17] <jpjacobs> tiffany, can't you go to the icq site, and request a ne one?
[12:17] <DiKKy> it may also be related to a faulty /etc/fstab i forgot to take a security copy before i edited it when trying to copy to the ntfs disk
[12:17] <tiffany> jpjacobs, no, I only saved so chars which I didnt remeber at the secure question
[12:17] <J_P> hi all
[12:17] <Death_Rider> hey
[12:17] <DiKKy> allright it appears im able to start xfce thanks guys , but still this is as root and insecure any ideas on what to do now ? just remove lots of software and hope the problem solves itself ?
[12:18] <jpjacobs> DiKKy, well yea, and review your fstab.
[12:18] <Death_Rider> look, when i try to install Ubuntu, on the ~5 step, where GNOME partition manager is, i get a msg "No Device Detected"... so i can't create partitions for the swap and other stuff
[12:18] <Death_Rider> wgy is that?
[12:18] <DiKKy> right
[12:18] <jpjacobs> and if you don't want to login as root do : su user , and log in after taht
[12:19] <DiKKy> k
[12:19] <DiKKy> is there any way to remove all of kde in one single command ?
[12:19] <DiKKy> and all of xfce
[12:19] <DiKKy> i have too much stuff
[12:19] <DiKKy> i just need gnome
[12:19] <adaptr> DiKKy: apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <DiKKy> thanks
[12:20] <Death_Rider> can someone help me plz ? :P
[12:20] <adaptr> DiKKy: but I'd advise you to solve the homedir problem first
[12:20] <DiKKy> right
[12:20] <adaptr> Death_Rider: no need to panic, we read you
[12:20] <ubaba> ***adaptr: Im a newbie on linux, so I just want to learn about LINUX!
[12:20] <DiKKy> does gnome have cache files in my home dir ?
[12:20] <adaptr> Death_Rider: is your harddrive USB or SATA ?
[12:21] <adaptr> DiKKy: lots, you can delete most of them
[12:21] <DiKKy> and where do i find them ? .gnome/?
[12:21] <Death_Rider> i gues it's SATA cause it ain't connected via USB :P
[12:21] <adaptr> DiKKy: .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2, and some more subdirs all contain gnone info, but if you're planning on removing KDE anyway I'd start by rm -rf-ing /.KDE
[12:21] <adaptr> sorry, ~/.KDE, rather
[12:22] <DiKKy> yeah but as i said
[12:22] <DiKKy> i think its related to some huge cache file
[12:22] <DiKKy> due to the failed
[12:22] <adaptr> Death_Rider: and does ubuntu see it ?
[12:22] <DiKKy> operation
[12:22] <DiKKy> i attempted
[12:22] <DiKKy> thanks though
[12:22] <DiKKy> ill give u a report once im done fixing it ;)
[12:22] <adaptr> DiKKy: AFAIK Linux does not do that sort of thing - that sounds like a typical Windows kludge
[12:22] <DiKKy> yeah
[12:22] <adaptr> DiKKy: 10 to 1 it's all in the Trashcan
[12:22] <DiKKy> but i cant think of
[12:22] <DiKKy> any other solution
[12:22] <adaptr> I'd wipe that first
[12:23] <DiKKy> where is that? .trash ?
[12:23] <Death_Rider> well, when i put the ubuntu CD in and it launches from the CD, i can only see my DVD rom, my floopy but no HDD :/
[12:23] <DiKKy> when i rm files in the cli they dont go to traschan ???
[12:23] <Death_Rider> i should be able to see my hdd also/
[12:23] <floating> Hi. Is anyone here using some other graphical web browsers than firefox ? I am looking for something more lightweight
[12:23] <Death_Rider> ?
[12:23] <cafuego> floating: opera
[12:23] <Death_Rider> i also recommend opera, cause it rocks :P
[12:24] <jpjacobs> floating, extremely lightweight, but not much featrures: dillo!
[12:24] <floating> DiKKy: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[12:24] <DiKKy> yeah opera ftw
[12:24] <jpjacobs> or links2 -g
[12:24] <DiKKy> thx
[12:24] <adaptr> Death_Rider: if you plan on installing to it, yes you certainly should see it...
[12:24] <Death_Rider> damn :/
[12:24] <Death_Rider> how do i make it see it? :/
[12:24] <Death_Rider> i know the HDD must be set on Master...
[12:24] <DiKKy> its empty
[12:24] <Death_Rider> and i believe it should see it
[12:25] <DiKKy> i dont use the traschan much
[12:25] <DiKKy> no surprise
[12:25] <adaptr> Death_Rider: go to system -> administration -> device manager
[12:25] <Death_Rider> oooh, i get lost there, there are sooooooo many different devices :)
[12:25] <Death_Rider> but i think i could find smth if i had to
[12:25] <DiKKy> my home directory is the same partitn as / though
[12:25] <Death_Rider> so what should i be looking for?
[12:26] <DiKKy> but purge was an invalid command
[12:26] <DiKKy> lol
[12:26] <DiKKy> *operation
[12:26] <lupine_85> apt-get remove --purge
[12:27] <DiKKy> wird
[12:27] <DiKKy> says 0 to remove
[12:27] <ubaba> apt-get install abc package without depencies??
[12:27] <DiKKy> think of something big and useless that is default that i can remove ?
[12:28] <adaptr> Death_Rider: an HDD device that looks like it is yours
[12:28] <adaptr> DiKKy: kOOo :)
[12:28] <adaptr> DiKKy: I sorta tripped on "useless"...
[12:28] <DiKKy> oh im running dapper
[12:28] <DiKKy> lol
[12:28] <pty> floating: have you tried epiphany?
[12:28] <DiKKy> right
[12:28] <DiKKy> well
[12:28] <DiKKy> damn
[12:29] <adaptr> DiKKy: how big is your root partition, then ? it sounds like it might be as little as 4GB
[12:29] <DiKKy> nah
[12:29] <DiKKy> 9.2gb
[12:29] <DiKKy> or 10GiB
[12:29] <DiKKy> or whatever
[12:29] <adaptr> that;s insane - but then I never put /home on the root partition if I can help it
[12:29] <DiKKy> nah that was a major mistake
[12:30] <DiKKy> i have another parttion with 6-7gb free space
[12:30] <DiKKy> (this is a laptop)
[12:30] <DiKKy> can i move
[12:30] <DiKKy> all the files
[12:30] <DiKKy> in my home dir
[12:30] <DiKKy> to that partition
[12:30] <floating> pty, nope..
[12:30] <DiKKy> and then mount it at homedir
[12:30] <DiKKy>  ?
[12:30] <adaptr> DiKKy: sure
[12:31] <kane77> DiKKy, do not spread your posts please
[12:31] <pty> floating: i recommend it; lighter than firefox and fits in well with the rest of the gnome desktop
[12:31] <DiKKy> sorry
[12:32] <kane77> DiKKy, np
[12:32] <floating> pty ok. I am just trying the dillo that jpjacobs mentioned. this feels great(if I manage to get macromedia and java and other things going on
[12:32] <Kayin> Does anybody have any experience with running Apache Tomcat?
[12:33] <disposable> when booting, i get 'Attempting manual resume' and 'attempt to access beyond end of device'. then the kernel panics. how do i make it NOT to resume from hibernation but to boot normally?
[12:33] <DiKKy> what properties do i need to assign the vfat partition to be able to use it as home dir for my user ?
[12:33] <DiKKy> in /etc/fstab
[12:34] <adaptr> DiKKy: oh.. vfat.. you can't, reformat it as ext3
[12:34] <disposable> DiKKy: rw,auto,users,umask=0000
[12:34] <Death_Rider> but what if i don't find my HDD device there? :/
[12:34] <adaptr> I would not do that
[12:34] <DiKKy> of course i can
[12:34] <disposable> DiKKy: but it is a very strange idea. no security, links wouldn't work, etc..
[12:34] <adaptr> Death_Rider: then perhaps you can try the alternate install CD and try to match a driver with your hardware... what is your mainboard, and what kind of drive do you have ?
[12:34] <DiKKy> i dont mind
[12:34] <adaptr> DiKKy: fine, whatever
[12:35] <DiKKy> im gonna do a reinstall later
[12:35] <jpjacobs> floating, you won't... dillo is way to limited for that. be happy you even get pictures ;)
[12:35] <DiKKy> i just need it to work today
[12:35] <floating> jpjacobs, ok. ;)
[12:36] <voltagex> hi, I'm having trouble getting a DVBT TV card to work
[12:37] <disposable> voltagex: hide it in your pocket then. maybe they wont notice :)
[12:37] <DiKKy> lol
[12:38] <voltagex> that's really helpful. Avermedia Hybrid PCI (AR16), SAA7134 based, known to work in Linux.
[12:39] <adaptr> voltagex: no need to pout.. we're not asking for you vriginity :)
[12:39] <adaptr> whatever that is ..whehe
[12:39] <voltagex> ffs, at least #gentoo tell you to recompile.
[12:40] <fredl> hi, it would seem that X generates a crashreport after I installed 6.10 from the alternate CD.
[12:40] <disposable> voltagex: insert saa7134,bt878, and mt352
[12:40] <fredl> I found out by looking at the /var/log/apport.log
[12:40] <voltagex> ooh, didn;t do bt878
[12:40] <voltagex> didn't think it was bt based
[12:40] <fredl> and a file is created in /var/crash/_usr_bin_Xorg.0.crash
[12:41] <disposable> voltagex: i didn't either, but without it it didn't want to work. maybe you'll need the feisty kernel.
[12:41] <fredl> what do I do with such a crash file??
[12:42] <fredl> BTW, I think it was caused because I removed the Option "DPMS" from xorg.conf and replaced with HorizSync and VertRefresh manually
[12:43] <fredl> but when I have the DPMS option in there, X shows up in a horrendous resolution.
[12:45] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> I can get commercial support from Canonical if I'm running gNewSense right?
[12:47] <chehgarg_> does anyone know how to get a netgear wireless wg311 v3 working on ubuntu edgy?
[12:48] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, I can help you. Do you know what chip is inside it?
[12:48] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, If not, open a terminal and type lspci.
[12:50] <chehgarg_> i don't see it listed actually
[12:51] <chehgarg_> is that because i'm using the ethernet card he already ahs installed(ihave to convert to wireless) his dog chews them up
[12:52] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks I found it! 02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas]  802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[12:52] <[ID] -81863212> chehgarg_  8 8 6
[12:53] <fredl> anybody here still using a Voodoo 3 card by any chance?
[12:54] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, "Marvell is said to be a company with an unusually poor record of supporting free operating systems."
[12:55] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks well what do i do then?
[12:55] <chehgarg_> the regular ethernet work.. but his GF says we have to get rid of the cord running through the house, cuz of the dog
[12:56] <Xyloc> Can anybody help me with WPA-PSK (TKIP) using Ubuntu-provided driver for RT2500?
[12:56] <DiKKy> thanks for the support guys. ill idle here now and maybe ill give something back to the community someday =) appreciate it.
[12:56] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, You're SOL because the company that makes your hardware makes crap. Get a card with a RaLink chip in it.
[12:57] <Xyloc> Alex_Jones_Rocks: Can you help me witrh a Ralink WPA problem?
[12:57] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks but it's not my card, i'm settign it up for a friend, and i know he has no cash for a new card
[12:57] <chehgarg_> how can you tell what chip is in it when you go shopping for one?
[12:57] <cyzie> how do i avoid a user from being log when i view using the command last?
[12:57] <Kayin> Can anybody help me with my Tomcat problem? I installed tomcat5 trough apt-get yesterday and after the installation it worked fine (I connected to localhost:8180 succesfully), but when I tried to start it just now (with sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start) it looks like it starts, but when I status it later it says the service is not running but the pid file exists, even though there's nothing tomcat related in /var/run ..
[12:58] <XCute4God> Hi guys! l(
[12:58] <XCute4God> ooops
[12:58] <XCute4God> ;)
[12:58] <chehgarg_> Alex_Jones_Rocks how would I go about it anyway? I mean maybe i'll get lucky and it will work
[12:58] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, Best place to buy is from New Egg.
[12:58] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> Xyloc, Sorry nope
[12:59] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, Look it up on the internet. If you have to get an Atheros card but that's discouraged.
[12:59] <XCute4God> anyone can help me? how can i hide my hard disk icons from my desktop????
[12:59] <Skat> I have a Netgear WG311T and it has an Atheros chip...works out of the box with Edgy
[01:00] <Xyloc> Alex_Jones_Rocks: Well you told chehgarg_ to get a Ralink chipset...
[01:01] <app> I have Ubuntu on a disk partition, but company policy (and Pointsec encryption in MBR) prevents me form installing a boot loader. Can I boot an Ubuntu disk partition by using the Ubuntu live CD, or by using some other well known live CD? I don't want to craft my own boot disk...
[01:01] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> Xyloc, Yes which I don't have on me at the moment nor do I use WEP or WPA, I have the wifi router hooked up to an OpenBSD machine and the only way to get passed the interface on the OpenBSD router is through SSH, heh.
[01:01] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> app, I think you can use a floppy that has GRUB on it, Google GRUB and floppy.
[01:02] <Xyloc> Alex_Jones_Rocks: Thanks for the clarification
[01:02] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> Xyloc, You're welcome.
[01:02] <app> Well, I don't have a floppy drive. BTW, I tried the GRUB multiboot spcial CD, but it failed / I failed to use it.
[01:02] <DiKKy> is "chmod 644 /home/dir" recursive ? y/n
[01:02] <emss> is there a working nvidia-glx-legacy package for 6.10?
[01:03] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> DiKKy, add -R
[01:03] <quasar8888> what does ubuntu use to prevent virus , spyware etc ?
[01:03] <chehgarg_> so Alex_Jones_Rocks you're saying you can't help get this thing working at all?
[01:03] <cyzie> how do i avoid a user from being log when i view using the command last?
[01:03] <DiKKy> where
[01:03] <XCute4God> Please, Anyone: How can i HIDE my desktop disk icons ???
[01:03] <Alex_Jones_Rocks> chehgarg_, No, because the hardware manufacturer does not respect you.
[01:03] <Xyloc> quasar8888: Use ClamAV for AV
[01:03] <[ID] -81863212> Xyloc  8 8 6
[01:04] <Xyloc> [ID] -81863212: Yes?
[01:04] <chehgarg_> ok. well thanks anyways, guess i'll find another way
[01:05] <quasar8888> What is Clam AV ?
[01:05] <Xyloc> quasar8888: Clam AV is an antivirus solution for Linux
[01:05] <[ID] -81863212> Xyloc  8 8 6
[01:06] <quasar8888> Where can I get Clam AV ?
[01:06] <XCute4God> Please, Anyone: How can i HIDE my desktop disk icons ???
[01:06] <Xyloc> quasar8888: Use apt-get
[01:06] <[ID] -81863212> Xyloc  8 8 6
[01:07] <Xyloc> Can anyone kill that ID-bot?
[01:08] <Xyloc> Is there an IRC-channel specializing on linux-wireless?
[01:09] <selinuxium_> Hi all, what is the difference between gstreamer 0.8 and 0.10? will they coexist together on the same system happily or should I be using one or the other?
[01:09] <crimsun> you should use gst0.10 wherever possible.
[01:09] <selinuxium_> crimsun: Cheers
[01:10] <Xyloc> Can Anybody help me with WPA, using a Ralink RT2500 chipset?
[01:12] <tito_linux> Last night I installed Beryl, it was running fine last night but this morning my X sessions seem to be messed up. When GNOME loads It only shows its loading the panel. The desktop & bottom panel don't function properly.
[01:15] <thrax> howdy all :) anyone know where i can get drivers for a giga-byte GA-K8VM800M motherboard ?\
[01:16] <waxfactor2nd> hi can anyone help me

[01:16] <waxfactor2nd>  			 		 		 		 		hi ive just installed the nvidia driver via automatix but now i only can choose 640*480 in the screen resolution menu. this is a 1280*1024 screen so it is very anoying. how can i make it back to 1280*1024. it is a 6600gt and im running edgy
[01:16] <Hoag> Hey all. Can anyone tell me the command to open the System Monitor
[01:17] <n2diy> ! automatix | waxfactor2nd
[01:17] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:17] <waxfactor2nd> ahh there must be some way to do it
[01:17] <waxfactor2nd> ?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: try #automatix
[01:18] <waxfactor2nd> k
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !resolution | waxfactor2nd
[01:18] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:18] <Flannel> !fixres | waxfactor2nd, this may or mightnt work, depending on what automatix did.
[01:18] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd, this may or mightnt work, depending on what automatix did.: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:18] <HHak> hello, is it possible to change the font of those text terminals (that can be acessed throught Ctrl+F1 etc.) ?
[01:18] <HHak> if so, how ? can you point me into right direction ?
[01:18] <HHak> please ...
[01:19] <linuxden> ubuntu would  not complete login this a.m. Until I started cable modem. I am on linksys router. any ideas why?
[01:19] <rikless> et bien mes premiers pas sur irc avec ubuntu :)
[01:19] <rikless> impecable
[01:19] <HHak> please talk english
[01:20] <n2diy> ! fr
[01:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:20] <Hoag> Hey all. Can anyone tell me the command to open the System Monitor?
[01:20] <elvelind_> how can I findout which package a certain file belongs too?
[01:20] <PuPPet> close
[01:20] <serishema> hoag: perhaps ksysguard?
[01:21] <Hoag> serishema: "bash: ksysguard: command not found"
[01:21] <HHak> please, can anyone tell me how can the font of the text terminals (Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2 etc.) be modified ?
[01:22] <serishema> hoag: oh okay you're using gnome
[01:22] <Godsey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/825/  I get this error when trying to build a kernel package
[01:23] <hemppa> Hoag: gnome-system-monitor
[01:23] <Godsey> I copied config.server to config.server-vm
[01:23] <Godsey> is there something else I needed to do?
[01:23] <waxfactor2nd> that didnt work
[01:23] <thrax> Is anyone able to point me in the right direction for Giga-Byte motherboard drivers ?
[01:23] <waxfactor2nd> to restart the x
[01:23] <waxfactor2nd> anyone knows what i then could do?
[01:23] <Jowi> elvelind_, dpkg -S filename
[01:24] <fredl> hey guys I'm thinking of buying a used graphics board for the computer I'm building for my 6 year old.
[01:24] <fredl> Does anybody have any experience with the  AOpen GeForce 4 Ti4200 ?
[01:24] <fredl> does that card do 3D?
[01:24] <Hoag> hemppa: Thanks
[01:24] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[01:24] <Xyloc> fredl: You bet it does
[01:25] <serishema> fredl: yes it works fine with the nividea binary drivers and does good enough 3d for cedega
[01:25] <fredl> oh that's cool to hear, so 15 euros for that card (the 64Mb version) isn't a bad deal huh?
[01:25] <Thug-N-Me> are there any settings i have to make to get a better download with the default gnome bittorent ?
[01:25] <serishema> fredl: sounds like a good deal to me
[01:26] <fredl> good. you have one yourself serishema?
[01:26] <fredl> or Xyloc.
[01:26] <waxfactor2nd> anyone how can i change the screen resolution, cant in the system screeen resolution
[01:26] <serishema> fredl: yes, but it's the 128mb version
[01:26] <gutterpunk> hi guys I need some help. I need to install grub via a chroot. I'm currently using the ubuntu live cd and I'm hoping to be able to install grub on the hard disk using it
[01:26] <fredl> what resolution do you use it at serishema?
[01:26] <serishema> 1280 by 1024 32 bit
[01:26] <Xyloc> fredl: Well I have a Gforce 6200, but it's still aGForce
[01:27] <fredl> well not all GForce's are the same right?
[01:27] <gutterpunk> Problem is, If I try grub-install hd0 or whatever I get: "azsper... does not have a corresponding bios drive"
[01:28] <gutterpunk> how can I fix this issue? it is on a production server so kinda urgent :s
[01:28] <serishema> gutterpunk umm for me i'd get out of the chroot environment and use ...
[01:28] <fredl> I mean I have to get something, and this GForce seems a lot snappier than the old Voodoo3 I'm trying to get to run right now and which I suspect has a hardware problem.
[01:28] <thrax> does anyone know where to get drivers for a GA-K8VM800M motherboard? im really desperate here guys. can't find these things anywhere
[01:28] <voltagex> I can't get my Avermedia Hybrid PCI (AR16), SAA7134 based, known to work in Linux.
[01:30] <mena> friends i need to unmount my partitions to reformate them
[01:30] <serishema> gutterpunk: mount your linux partition and make sure /boot is avilable then do grub_install --recheck --root-direct<path to /boot>
[01:30] <serishema> sorry that should be --root-directory
[01:31] <Thug-N-Me> i get a error trying to download something couldnt listen 98 address already in use any idea ?
[01:31] <mena> serishema, you mean me
[01:31] <serishema> umm possibly, whoever it was that was having the problem reinstalling grub using the livecd
[01:32] <mena> ! unmount
[01:32] <serishema> i had to do it recently so i was on the top of my head
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <serishema> !umount
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <mena> any know how
[01:33] <mena> there is no more users on the screen
[01:34] <fredl> what's the difference between AGP 4x and AGP 8x ?
[01:34] <mena> freinds i need help
[01:34] <mena> i want to unmount my partions
[01:35] <serishema> umount <path to mountpoint>
[01:35] <serishema> must be doing with sudo or as root
[01:35] <mena> okay
[01:35] <gutterpunk> serishema, I still get the error about the corresponding bios drives
[01:35] <serishema> also you cannot unmount your root partition while the system is running for reasons that should be obvious
[01:36] <serishema> gutterpunk: paste your command line?
[01:36] <fredl> how can I find out if my mainboard has AGP 8x or AGP 4x ?
[01:36] <jpjacobs> fredl, try lshw
[01:37] <mena> serishema, I TYPED the comand   command not found
[01:37] <n2diy> fredl: google.
[01:37] <serishema> mena: are you using the livecd?
[01:37] <mena> no
[01:37] <thrax> ive downloaded the drivers i wanted in .tgz. how do i install them ?
[01:37] <mena> i want unmount other partitions bec they cant appear in xp bec they are ext3
[01:37] <fredl> jpjacobs: lshw|grep -i agp gives product: 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge
[01:38] <mena> and i dont wont the problem wich enable it in the xp
[01:38] <serishema> mena: oh right grub_install isn't usually there unless you specifically install it, reboot from the CD and try again
[01:38] <gutterpunk> serishema,  sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda... could raid be the cause of ths problem?
[01:39] <fredl> jpjacobs: does that show if it's 8x or 4x ?
[01:39] <mena> i was usaly unmount them throw gparted nad it telling they mount on the mount point !!!!
[01:39] <temp_> I have deleted my privileged user account and need another one, I have a basic account and the root password. How can I add a priveleged user
[01:39] <mena> and*
[01:40] <Xyloc> mena, there is a tool to browse ext-based filesystems in the /tools directory of any Knppix or Ubuntu Live-CD
[01:40] <Xyloc> mena, check this out: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[01:40] <mena> okay
[01:41] <Xyloc> mena, it even does ReiserFS
[01:41] <mena> Xyloc, okay but they are ext3
[01:42] <jpjacobs> fredl, see for yourself. it's installed by default
[01:42] <temp_> How do I enable root login?
[01:42] <fredl> jpjacobs, huh?
[01:42] <temp_> I've done sudo passwd but it didn't work
[01:42] <mena> Xyloc, did it will work
[01:43] <fredl> jpjacobs, I don't understand. That's what lshw says, but how do I know if an AGP 8x card will run well in that slot?
[01:43] <Past_Images> hi what dir do i need to create so that glslideshow shows my photos and not ones of space ships in dapper??
[01:43] <mena> Xyloc, okay i see it thanks
[01:43] <jpjacobs> fredl, open a console, and key in "lshw|less" , than enter
[01:43] <Xyloc> mena: I didn't really understand your last sentence...
[01:43] <Xyloc> mena, nevermind
[01:43] <fredl> jpjacobs, yes, I did that....
[01:43] <mena> Xyloc, no problem never mind
[01:43] <jpjacobs> fredl, there you have a chance to see what slot it is... 4x or 8x
[01:44] <Godsey> fredl: doesn't your bios tell you?
[01:44] <fredl> jpjacobs, hmm it says a lot of things but I don't see whether it's 4x or 8x
[01:44] <fredl> Godsey, there's an idea, lemme look in the BIOS
[01:44] <waxfactor2nd> hi now ive uninstalled the automatix drivwer and installed it the booring way, but i still cant change the resolution, i can only choose 640*480. so what shall i do, im a a newb.
[01:45] <n2diy> ! automatix | waxfactor2nd
[01:45] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:45] <gnomefreak> !fixres | n2diy
[01:45] <ubotu> n2diy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:45] <mena> Xyloc, but the problem know that the xp systm is not on the hard ....so how cant i accse it to install it
[01:45] <gnomefreak> n2diy: he removed (hopfully all of it)
[01:45] <mena> Xyloc, know>>>Now
[01:46] <fredl> jpjacobs, it says 'width: 32 bits' undeer the PCI AGP Bridge section...
[01:46] <mena> Xyloc, the xp is on my friend hard
[01:46] <Xyloc> mena, Which OS do you have up and running?
[01:46] <n2diy> gromefreak: the key operator there is "hopefully"
[01:46] <mena> ubuntu
[01:46] <fredl> does the width have anything to do with AGP 4x or 8x ?
[01:46] <mena> Xyloc, ubuntu
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> now it aint automatix question, ive installed the driver on the normal booring way
[01:46] <Xyloc> mena, did your friend encrypt his files in anyway?
[01:47] <Kishore> ubotu, kill
[01:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:47] <Godsey> fredl: http://www.abcd.com.au/v/agp_slot.htm
[01:47] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: read the link i gave you. and it can still be automatix causing the problem.
[01:47] <mena> No bu the big problem that i am going at first to creat a cd and the files i have it he dosent
[01:47] <waxfactor2nd> there is only things to 6.06
[01:47] <jpjacobs> fredl, dunno the system i am on doesn't have an AGP dlot ;)
[01:47] <jpjacobs> slot*
[01:48] <Godsey> unless you know it's either 4 or 8
[01:48] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: the links i gave you will work for edgy also
[01:48] <Xyloc> mena, you can use K3B to burn a CD, if that's what you want.
[01:48] <Godsey> and I thought 8x cards degrate to 4x
[01:48] <eyalw> hi
[01:48] <waxfactor2nd> how, shall i write the stuff to 6.06 in 6.10?? or did i miss something there
[01:48] <mena> no the problen i dont have now a writer >>:)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: did you read the links i gave you
[01:49] <waxfactor2nd> partly, when i saw there only stood 6.06 and 5.10 and then something else started i closed it
[01:49] <fredl> Godsey, thanks! that helps! I guess I have an AGP 2x slot
[01:50] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: look heres easy way find out what the vertical and horizontal refresh rates are by goggling your monitor. than add those rates to /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the right place and add the monitor vaules it can support.
[01:50] <eyalw> i'm having problem understanding some ssh related stuff
[01:50] <fredl> so it's not likely an AGP 8x card will even fit in there :/
[01:50] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: the fixres links are the same for all releases
[01:51] <waxfactor2nd> huh what link did you gave me then??
[01:52] <randig> hej
[01:52] <gnomefreak> !fixres | waxfactor2nd
[01:52] <ubotu> waxfactor2nd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:52] <Peres> hello
[01:52] <gnomefreak> waxfactor2nd: that one
[01:52] <randig> hehe......
[01:53] <chehgarg_> anyone ever get a wg311v3 wirless netgear card working on Ubuntu Edgy?
[01:53] <serishema> in my case the X window system is a windows program :-)
[01:53] <mena> Xyloc, thansk i sloved it
[01:53] <mena> thanks
[01:53] <Xyloc> mena, don't mention it
[01:53] <waxfactor2nd> kk ill try
[01:54] <mena> Xyloc, ok
[01:56] <bronze> Good morning.  What file do I have to modify to allow root logins on the main X-windows login?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> !sudo | bronze
[01:57] <ubotu> bronze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> bronze: read it it has a section that you want. but im warning you its not supported in here nor iis it a good idea at all.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:57] <bronze> um, yeah i know how to become root. I want to allow a root login on a console in my server room
[01:58] <bronze> gnomefreak: I understand. Been using *NIXes since 1981
[01:58] <bronze> built my first network (200+ nodes) in 1983
[01:59] <Corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[01:59] <Corvus> salut
[01:59] <bronze> can you be more specific?
[01:59] <n2diy> ! fr | Corvus
[01:59] <ubotu> Corvus: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:00] <Corvus> merde, je me suis gour de canal
[02:00] <Corvus> dsol
[02:01] <jpjacobs> bronze, if you want a root login, you must unlock the rootaccoutn by assigning a passwd (sudo passwd root)
[02:01] <eyalw> i'm having problem understanding some ssh related stuff
[02:01] <eyalw> can somebody help me
[02:01] <jpjacobs> ask |eyalw
[02:02] <jpjacobs> !ask |eyalw
[02:02] <ubotu> eyalw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:02] <Xyloc> I'm trying to set up WPA, using the RT2500-driver supplied by Ubuntu (origin: Serialmonkey rt2x)
[02:02] <Xyloc> It doesn't seem to accept ASCII-keys, only numerical. My router uses ASCII as WPA-PSK (TKIP) key
[02:02] <eyalw> ok, well, when i want to connect to a ssh server, i need the server pub. key and it needs mine right?
[02:03] <ys76> Hi there! I need an advice: I am looking for a working SCSI-Controller for a failover-setup on a shared storage (AMD64 PCI-X)
[02:04] <n2diy> eyalw: right.
[02:05] <eyalw> n2diy: ok, so i have an sshd running on my pc, how can i configure which pub/prv pair of keys it uses?
[02:05] <jpjacobs> eyalw, those normally get generated automatically.
[02:05] <jpjacobs> and are specific to the host, not the user
[02:05] <n2diy> eyalw: ssh will generate its own.
[02:05] <exs> does anyone know of a text-to-speech program for ubuntu?
[02:05] <XCute4God> Please, ANYONE: How can i HIDE my desktop disk icons ???
[02:05] <eyalw> jpjacobs: where can i find them?
[02:05] <jpjacobs> if you want to use user-specific keys, take a look at ssh-keygen
[02:05] <exs> XCute4God:  I'e wondered that before, I don't think you can.
[02:06] <jpjacobs> eyalw, /etc/ssh/...
[02:06] <Past_Images> hello anyone?? glslideshow is showing pics of space but how do i get it to show my photo collection
[02:06] <Past_Images> ?
[02:06] <jpjacobs> exs, festival, there is support for assistive technologies in ubunut, see menu>prefs>...
[02:06] <ubuntu__> hello
[02:06] <XCute4God> exs, I don't know, but it got to have an answer...
[02:07] <exs> jpjacobs:  why did you refer to me?
[02:07] <eyalw> jpjacobs: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key - is the private key?
[02:07] <jpjacobs> exs, XCute4God, take a look at the configuration manager, somewhere in the menu. if i'm not mistaken there is some option like /desktop/show.icons...
[02:08] <ubuntu__> for what jp?
[02:08] <jpjacobs> exs, the text-to-speech thing you wanted
[02:09] <exs> jpjacobs:  yeah,  I can't find it in the menus
[02:09] <eyalw> jpjacobs: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key - is the private key?
[02:09] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you don't have to care for thos keys normally
[02:09] <XCute4God> jpjacobs, neither me
[02:10] <ubuntu__> exs: have u looked in synaptic?
[02:10] <XCute4God> jpjacobs, i can't find this any menu to handle this
[02:10] <exs> ubuntu__:  no, what's this program called?
[02:10] <ubuntu__> exs let me chk, 1 second
[02:10] <exs> XCute4God: same here, gimme a shout when you find it
[02:10] <jpjacobs> sorry guys, i'm not at my ubuntu machine now, but i know it's there. (maybe try gnopernicus, festival, flite,...)
[02:11] <eyalw> jpjacobs: ok, so, say i'm on my university pc, i wanna connect to my home ssh server. i need to have? 1. my own private/public key pair. 2. the server public key?
[02:11] <kenthomson> HELP: i can't configure wengophone
[02:11] <kenthomson> can someone please help me?
[02:12] <ubuntu__> exs:  search for festlex
[02:12] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:12] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you just connect. then you get a question about wether to trust the host or not, just trust it (or if you are paranoid, check the fingerprint)
[02:12] <mena> freinds
[02:12] <ubuntu__> hello mena
[02:12] <mena> i have aproblem with mounting a petition
[02:12] <mena> partition ...hello ubuntu
[02:12] <ubuntu__> whats up?
[02:12] <j0sh0> hi all! I'm using 915resolution for my intel 855GM graphics card for xserver, but looking thru Xorg.0.log i see the line "i810(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)" however if i do "915resolution -l" i can see that mode in the list!! why wont X let me use 1024x768? I know the laptop is capable of it because winXP allowed me to use it?
[02:12] <rabe> ;)
[02:13] <mena> ubuntu__, i have reformate a partition to ntfs and i edit the fstab and until now it wouldnt mount
[02:13] <mena> !!
[02:13] <exs> ubuntu__:  Turns out I already got that, how do I launch it?
[02:13] <kenthomson> HELP: I get, "Fatal error" Wengo cannot work properly. The sip port number of wengo is already being used by other software!"
[02:13] <Kayin> Can anybody help me with my Tomcat problem? I installed tomcat5 trough apt-get yesterday and after the installation it worked fine (I connected to localhost:8180 succesfully), but when I tried to start it just now (with sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start) it looks like it starts, but when I status it later it says the service is not running but the pid file exists, even though there's nothing tomcat related in /var/run ..
[02:14] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, are you running ekiga?
[02:14] <ubuntu__> exs: do u have the dependency package for male voice
[02:14] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, no actively but it is installed (be default) and setup with one of my accounts, UES
[02:14] <ubuntu__> mena:  can i see the fstab
[02:14] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, YES
[02:14] <ubuntu__> or can u type that line here
[02:14] <mena> okay
[02:14] <eyalw> jpjacobs: well.. this is not helping me. sorry. where can i found a good ssh tutorial, i've been over like 10
[02:14] <ubuntu__> eyalw: hi
[02:14] <mena> ! pastbian
[02:14] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  man ssh
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <boro__> hi chlopaki
[02:15] <kenthomson> !pastebin | mena
[02:15] <ubotu> mena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:15] <exs> ubuntu__:  Yep, got the male voice.
[02:15] <mena> okay
[02:15] <ubuntu__> exs: ok
[02:15] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, then kill ekiga first, a port can be only used by one program at a time
[02:15] <eyalw> ubuntu__: when u dont know what is fingerprint, and how ssh works, man ssh wont help u
[02:15] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, but ekiga is not ACTIVELY running in the background as of now, it is just installed. Will i have to uninstall it?
[02:15] <eyalw> ubuntu__: I've read it
[02:16] <XCute4God> jpjacobs, exs I've found how hide dekstop disk icons!!
[02:16] <hotti> where could i find a decent howto to get flash and java working with firefox in ubuntu amd64?
[02:16] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, oh no that shouldn''t be a problem
[02:16] <ubuntu__> launch festival
[02:16] <exs> XCute4God:  tell us how!
[02:16] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, then, what do i do?
[02:16] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  what r u trying to do?
[02:16] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, you can see which programs are listening on which ports by using 'netstat -alpI inet'
[02:17] <ubuntu__> mena: ?
[02:17] <mena> ubuntu__, and i also need the permisiom to read and write on the ntfs partition......http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/828/
[02:17] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, "ps -e | grep ekiga" give no output, BTW
[02:17] <mena> ubuntu__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/828/
[02:17] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:17] <Past_Images> hi is there a way to speed up the ubuntu dapper screen saver -  i'm using the one for Pictures Folder
[02:17] <XCute4God> exs, execute : gconf-editor, then find apps->nautilus->desktop and uncheck "volumes_visible"
[02:18] <eyalw> ubuntu__: I wanna have a simple understanding of how ssh works, (i'm familier with the encription idea of public keys) but not with the logging into a server with ssh, and how do i specify what public key to use, or, how do i get the server's public key, or how does the server gets my public key
[02:18] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, "netstat: invalid option -- I
[02:18] <kenthomson> "
[02:18] <ubuntu__> chking 1 sec
[02:18] <vluid> hello everybody!
[02:18] <ubuntu__> eyalw: do this mate
[02:18] <kenthomson> !hi | vluid
[02:18] <ubotu> vluid: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:18] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you don't need to have those, ssh takes care of that.
[02:18] <XCute4God> exs, Got it?
[02:18] <ubuntu__> eyalw: when a key is genrated 2 key r done, private/public
[02:18] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:18] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, weird...
[02:19] <jpjacobs> Sorry that should have been A...
[02:19] <vluid> ive got some encoding problems with gaim.
[02:19] <voltagex> has anyone had success with the Avermedia Hybrid PCI cards?
[02:19] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, the command you gave me throws an error "netstat: invalid option -- I"
[02:19] <ubuntu__> mena: ok
[02:19] <ubuntu__> what error u get ?
[02:19] <kenthomson> Does GAIM allow voice-calls to yahoo users?
[02:19] <exs> XCute4God:  yeah, shame its so hard to enablr/disable
[02:19] <mena> ubuntu__, the ntfs partition didt appear
[02:20] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  u send the public key to the person with whom u wana share, leep private to urself
[02:20] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:20] <ubuntu__> yes mena
[02:20] <ubuntu__> try doing it manually 1st
[02:20] <ubuntu__> using the mount command
[02:20] <Xyloc> Can anyone help me with a wireless network problem?
[02:20] <mena> then
[02:20] <eyalw> ubuntu__: lets talk in client-server matters, not as if i'm sharing with my friend with whom i can talk to
[02:20] <ubuntu__> des it work?
[02:20] <rabe> hi
[02:21] <ubuntu__> eyalw:  i sent u the public key ok fo eg
[02:21] <mena> ubuntu__, its open commands and the ntfs didt apper
[02:21] <ubuntu__> eyalw: u use the ssh --impprt option to add ym key
[02:21] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, my fault, it should have been 'netstat -alpA inet'
[02:21] <rabe> i have a problem during installation with qparted it tells me that i dont have a root partition, but i choose one with reiserfs to formated and to be mounted
[02:21] <XCute4God> exs, yeah... but all the configuration of gnome can be made from gconf-editor... we can made a lot of tweaks from it
[02:22] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, a small 'a' and a big 'A' together? :)
[02:22] <benrob> tricky one: I have winxp running as a client in vmware on my ubuntu dapper host. Works really well. But I get error messages of "cannot communicate with scanner" when trying to scan. The scanner is regognised under vm > removeable devices > usb devices however.
[02:22] <jpjacobs> yes
[02:22] <jpjacobs> see man netstat
[02:22] <benrob> one would guess win-only scanners etc are one of the key uses of vmware...
[02:22] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, i got some long output
[02:22] <vluid> when my friends write in german over icq and they have umlauts in their text i get following error : "(There was an error receiving this message. The buddy you are speaking to most likely has a buggy client.)" my encoding is iso-8859-15. so i cannot figure out where the problem could be
[02:22] <mena> ubuntu__, what to do
[02:22] <eyalw> ubuntu__: one moment, say u r the server i run in my home ubuntu, and i am somedistanced workstation, ok?
[02:22] <ubuntu__> mena: try HPFS
[02:23] <mena> what is that
[02:23] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, do i "grep" something? What do i look for?
[02:23] <kostas_> hello everyone
[02:23] <eyalw> ubuntu__: so, in order for me to connect with u, i need in advance to have your public key stored in my email for example, right?
[02:23] <rabe> qparted dosent want to install
[02:23] <ubuntu__> yes
[02:23] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, you have to know which prog is listening on the wengo-port, so search which port wengo needs, and see what's taking it.
[02:24] <krys_>  /server irc3.tin.it
[02:24] <krys_> dsadasdsad
[02:24] <bronze> jpjacobs: did that, Thank you.
[02:24] <jpjacobs> eyalw, you just Connect. do ssh user@host and it will work, no need to make it more difficult
[02:24] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, weng in its configuration tells me it has SIP:5060, should i search for 5060?
[02:24] <ubuntu__> mena:  u there
[02:24] <ubuntu__> try this
[02:24] <jpjacobs> bronze, np
[02:24] <jpjacobs> indeed
[02:24] <ubuntu__> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /media/ntfs
[02:24] <mena> ubuntu__, yes
[02:25] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, "netstat alpA inet | grep 5060", Gives no output
[02:25] <ubuntu__> or whatever mount point name u kept
[02:25] <ubuntu__> ok?
[02:25] <mena> ok
[02:25] <eyalw> jpjacobs: but this is the linux community, not some Windows forum. i wanna know what is done backstage
[02:25] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, that's weird. maybe you accidently launched 2 instances of wengo?
[02:26] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, let me close all of them and restart them. Do you use wengo?
[02:26] <jpjacobs> eyalw, don't go calling me a windows user hey. just google . www.openssh.com is a nice place to start :|
[02:26] <deebu> when  remove usb devices in ubuntu without unmounting them, ubuntu tells me that its unsafe...is this unique to ubuntu or a property of gnome 2.16??
[02:26] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, installed it yesterday, but kicked it because it was damn slow
[02:27] <ubuntu__> deebu:  it is normal
[02:27] <deebu> when I remove usb devices in Edgy without unmounting them, ubuntu tells me that its unsafe...is this unique to ubuntu or a property of gnome 2.16??
[02:27] <eyalw> jpjacobs: never did, but your answer was very similar to one a windows user will answer
[02:27] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, and instead you use, <what> for VOIP?
[02:27] <rabe> is qparted buggy
[02:27] <eyalw> jpjacobs: and its not like i havnt googled, i just never found the right tutorial yet
[02:27] <rabe> i tell me that i have not selected a root partition
[02:27] <ubuntu__> rabe:  qtparted?
[02:27] <mena> ubuntu__, it should mounted after rebort right
[02:27] <rabe> yes
[02:27] <n2diy_> deebu: neither.
[02:28] <ubuntu__> mena:  nope
[02:28] <deebu> ubuntu__, i know its normal...but i wanted to know if this is a property of edgy or gnome 2.16? bcoz its a really nice feature for newbies..
[02:28] <ubuntu__> can u access ntfs now?
[02:28] <eyalw> jpjacobs: they all explain how to connect with a password. i wanna connect with a public key and a password
[02:28] <jpjacobs> well i do not really use it a lot. i like ekiga, but it takes a whole lot of libs (we'll on this non-gnome box). ihu, ohphone and yate look prommising.
[02:28] <mena> ubuntu__, okay
[02:28] <ubuntu__> deebu:  nope, u will get it on kde too
[02:28] <benrob> I have winxp running as a client in vmware on my ubuntu dapper host. Works really well. But I get error messages of "cannot communicate with scanner" when trying to scan. The scanner is regognised under vm > removeable devices > usb devices however. Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:28] <mena> ubuntu__, not yet
[02:28] <deebu> n2diy, then to whom does the credit go for this nice feature?
[02:28] <mena> ubuntu__, but the command worked
[02:28] <rabe> ubuntu_: yes it tell me that i have no root partition selected, but i have
[02:28] <ubuntu__> mena:  ok so u an access ntfs data?
[02:29] <kenthomson> jpjacobs, Do you know of any software that will allow me to make voice calls with yahoo users (on yahoo messenger)? (except ofcourse the yahoo messenger)
[02:29] <ubuntu__> can*
[02:29] <Jowi> !ssh | eyalw
[02:29] <ubotu> eyalw: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:29] <n2diy_> deebu: I don't think it is a feature, and it is bad practice, you should always unmount/eject a USB device before unplugging it.
[02:29] <deebu> ubuntu__, nope...i do not get it in kde...i tried in it kubuntu
[02:29] <Jowi> eyalw, check that first link. it includes pub key auth
[02:29] <jpjacobs> eyalw, google for ssh public key. te first hit is a good one
[02:29] <eyalw> Jowi: i've been there
[02:29] <bronze> I'm trying to configure my eth0 with a static IP on my LAN.  I have used the gui to reconfigure the interface, but when I run /etc/init.d/networking restart it still tries to do DHCP on the interface.  How do I get it to use the new settings?
[02:29] <mena> ubuntu__, Not Yet i cant find in the desktop ...i will rebort then come and tell you ..brb
[02:29] <ubuntu__> deebu:  when u right clik on the usb desktop icon
[02:29] <jpjacobs> kenthomson, no, I practically don't know any yahoo users
[02:29] <ubuntu__> u will get it deebu
[02:29] <revan> I can't hear anything out of my speakers. I get this error when trying to test my audio: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available.
[02:30] <ubuntu__> mena: hold on
[02:30] <mena> ok
[02:30] <kenthomson>  Do you know of any software that will allow me to make voice calls with yahoo users (on yahoo messenger)? (except ofcourse the yahoo messenger)
[02:30] <mena> ubuntu__, ok i am here
[02:30] <Jowi> eyalw, so what are you wondering exacely?
[02:30] <eyalw> sorry, this is not helping me. "go search" - i can tell that to myself alone. bye for now
[02:30] <ubuntu__> if the command worked, and u can access the file system
[02:30] <Jowi> exactly even
[02:30] <ubuntu__> add it to fstab
[02:30] <ubuntu__> dont delte the old one though ok , make a new mount point
[02:30] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:30] <ubuntu__> then reboot
[02:30] <mena> ubuntu__, okay
[02:31] <bronze> I'm trying to configure my eth0 with a static IP on my LAN.  I have used the gui to reconfigure the interface, but when I run /etc/init.d/networking restart it still tries to do DHCP on the interface.  How do I get it to use the new settings?
[02:32] <benrob> go figure.... now it wants to work! well, cant complain about that...
[02:32] <rabe> is it not possible to have to root partitions in same primary partitions
[02:32] <deebu> ubuntu__, im not talkin abt dat buddy...im sayin that it tells me that its unsafe to remove usb devices without ejecting them...when i remove them wihout ejecting them...so is this user-friendly dialog a part of ubuntu...or a part of kde?
[02:32] <Xyloc> bronze: Probably the GUI changes a file that the networking init-script is not referring to
[02:33] <ubuntu__> deebu:  u will get that in every OS
[02:33] <bronze> Xyloc: si the fallback is go to /etc/ig and set the ifcfg files by hand?
[02:33] <deebu> ubuntu__, i do NOT:( except windows n edgy
[02:34] <bronze> *so
[02:34] <ubuntu__> i do
[02:34] <rabe> No mount point selected for Partition 1 Disc IDE/ATA 1 (Primary) [hda1] .
[02:34] <rabe> Kein Root-Dateisystem
[02:34] <revan> Hi, I can't hear anything out of my speakers when trying to play audio or video. I get this error when trying to test my audio: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available.
[02:34] <rabe> i dont understand what qparted want me to do
[02:34] <Xyloc> bronze: Yes, you can edit the /etc/network/interfaces file by hand
[02:34] <deebu> ubuntu__, i unplugged usb devices many times in dapper..kubuntu..without unmounting them...but i didnt see any dialog telling me that its unsafe..
[02:35] <ubuntu__> deebu:  u see icon on desktop?
[02:35] <ubuntu__> right clik on it
[02:35] <deebu> ubuntu__, yup of course
[02:35] <bronze> Xyloc: All right, Who is the tease that put the network stuff in the GUI then ? :-)
[02:35] <ubuntu__> deebu:  see safetly remove?
[02:35] <Xyloc> deebu: try rebooting while having an opened file form your USB-stick, you're bound to get a warning then
[02:35] <deebu> ubuntu__, i know i can unmount them safely before unplugging them..if thats wht ur tryin to temme
[02:36] <ubuntu__> deebu: yes , always do that
[02:36] <Xyloc> bronze: I don't know, but the standard networking tools are not working for me either...
[02:36] <revan> ...
[02:37] <Xyloc> bronze: Yet, I try to configure WLAN instead of wired (wired works perfectly)
[02:37] <smithw> Hello everyone. Is there an option to apt-get in command line which lists all the packages currently installed? I've been searching the man pages without much success...
[02:37] <erUSUL> cl
[02:37] <ubuntu__> bronze:  are you using network-admin for networking/
[02:37] <bronze> ubuntu__: nope, I'm root at the moment
[02:37] <n2diy_> smithw: you should be able to do that in synaptic.
[02:38] <ubuntu__> wb mena
[02:38] <mena> ubuntu__, bad luck bad luck
[02:38] <ubuntu__> bronze:  try that command
[02:38] <mena> :(
[02:38] <ubuntu__> mena:  did not work?
[02:38] <bronze> Ubugtu: is network-admin a gui tool?
[02:38] <mena> yes
[02:38] <ubuntu__> what did u add to fstab?
[02:38] <ubuntu__> bronze:  yes
[02:38] <smithw> n2diy_, yeah, but I want this output to be in plain text to feed a script, which will parse this value and install the same packages on another system... Can synaptic do that, also?
[02:38] <J_P>  people, I would like know if what machine is better for run ubuntu + postgresql : "Pentium 4 D 3.2GHz" or "Pentium Core2 Duo 1,8GHz". Remeber OS is Linux 32 bit
[02:39] <mena> ubuntu__, i didnt add any thing bec its the same as i was checked it
[02:39] <mena> i see it
[02:39] <bronze> ubuntu__: is it the one you access from the menu  via "system settings"?
[02:39] <ubuntu__> right
[02:39] <mena> the mount point is what i am usin
[02:39] <n2diy_> smithw: ok! I doubt synaptic can do that, good luck.
[02:39] <ubuntu__> mena try this
[02:39] <mena> ok
[02:39] <bronze> ubuntu__: That didn't change the interface
[02:39] <ubuntu__> open terminal
[02:39] <mena> ok
[02:39] <ubuntu__> sudo mkdir /media/ntfs
[02:40] <smithw> n2diy_, thanks...
[02:40] <Blutack> smithw: try apt-cache man pages
[02:40] <ubuntu__> whats the hda number?
[02:40] <ubuntu__> for ntfs
[02:40] <ubuntu__> 6?
[02:40] <mena> ubuntu__,6
[02:41] <smithw> Blutack, thanks, let me see...
[02:41] <vleon> can someone help me with tv-out?
[02:41] <bronze> bbl
[02:41] <ubuntu__> echo "/dev/hda6 /media/ntfs  ntfs  defaults 0  0" >> /etc/fstab
[02:42] <ubuntu__> now reboot mena
[02:42] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:42] <mena> OK
[02:42] <logical> hi.. do you know scim setting??
[02:42] <ubuntu__> u should be able to access ntfs in /media/ntfs
[02:42] <ubuntu__> mena:  1 more thing though
[02:43] <ubuntu__> u do have ntfsprogs installed right?
[02:43] <mena> ubuntu__, i dont know that
[02:43] <ubuntu__> mena:  sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[02:43] <ubuntu__> ok?
[02:44] <mena> ok
[02:44] <ubuntu__> good luck
[02:44] <exs> anyone using feisty? hows it shaping up?
[02:44] <mena> ubuntu__,okay
[02:45] <fredl> so for configuring a Gforce 4 card I need to just follow the instructions at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 ?
[02:45] <mena> ubuntu__, the command above you give me to the fstab right
[02:45] <ubuntu__> apt-get?
[02:45] <logical> mount /dev/hda1 /media/foldername -o nls=cp949,utf8. And you can see ntfs folder...
[02:45] <ubuntu__> or echo?
[02:46] <mena> echo what is that
[02:46] <ubuntu__> did u run the echo command?
[02:46] <vleon> can someone help me with tv-out?
[02:47] <ubuntu__> mena:  ?
[02:47] <mena> ubuntu__, seconed plz
[02:47] <ubuntu__> just edit fstab manually add it there
[02:47] <ubuntu__> dont use echo
[02:47] <ubuntu__> u can wreck system
[02:48] <mena> okay
[02:48] <logical> can someone help me with scim setting in other language?
[02:48] <mena> ubuntu__, bec i do that permision denied
[02:49] <Prabhu-> hi, can i configure NAT server on if i have a single n/w card on the m/c? and if that pc is using is a gateway to connect to net?
[02:49] <ubuntu__> mena: press alt+f2
[02:49] <Prabhu-> a nat/proxy server
[02:49] <ubuntu__> in run type gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[02:49] <logical> root permission needs..
[02:49] <mena> okay
[02:50] <mena> ubuntu__, it will make 2 to 0 is that okay
[02:51] <Prabhu-> any help for me?
[02:51] <ubuntu__> keep both 0 0
[02:51] <mena> okay
[02:51] <mena> i should remove that right /dev/hda6
[02:51] <ubuntu__> !ntfsprogs >mena
[02:52] <ubuntu__> mena nope dont remove anything
[02:52] <ubuntu__> just add 1 more in the end
[02:52] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:52] <mena> ok
[02:52] <vleon> can no one help me with tv-out?
[02:53] <mena> brb
[02:53] <Lynoure> vleon: Have you already told them about what is wrong?
[02:54] <Lynoure> vleon: It's tempting to say "just plug a tv into it" if that is all of the question =)
[02:54] <vleon> :)
[02:54] <vleon> sec
[02:54] <vleon> !tv-out
[02:54] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[02:54] <Ubuntuguy> All -- looking for help with ipod.  under dapper and edgy it doesn't automount.  How can I enable automount?
[02:55] <vleon> well i edited every thing as was stated in the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition and installed the proprientry nvidia drivers, and yet i see nothing on my tv screen (yes i plugged the cables)
[02:55] <vleon> and yes i restarted the comp
[02:57] <no-sleep> is anyone interested to give me some feedback about my project: http://timesaver.sf.net/ - version beta 0.5.3 Thank you!
[02:57] <ubuntu__> wb mena
[02:57] <mena> ubuntu__, when i done that what hapened so i think is didt mounted for that reason see the ppastebian
[02:58] <mena> ! pastebian
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <ubuntu__> did u chk /media folder?
[02:58] <mena> the fstab
[02:58] <ubuntu__> !pastebin | mena
[02:58] <ubotu> mena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:58] <a1m> nekoi balgarin nema le
[02:58] <a1m> ?
[02:58] <a1m> :>
[02:58] <mena> ubuntu__, if no solve i will make it ext3 :)
[02:59] <mena> and make you reat and me
[02:59] <mena> rest
[02:59] <eXistenZ> what's the difference between chroot and dchroot?
[02:59] <mena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/829/
[02:59] <ubuntu__> lol
[03:00] <mena> i do it wrong right
[03:00] <mena> heheheh sorry the resolution was deffrent ...heheh
[03:00] <ubuntu__> i dont see anything u typed new in fstab?
[03:00] <ubuntu__> i told u to add a line there
[03:00] <ubuntu__> u did nothing
[03:00] <mena> ubuntu__, no u gived me i do it
[03:01] <ubuntu__> open fstab again
[03:01] <mena> ubuntu__, is there any apps in linux enable reading for xp i mean apps installed on linux or command do that
[03:01] <mena> okay
[03:01] <Knight_Lord> Is there any way of knowing which client of and NFS server is creating more traffic?a
[03:01] <mena> i am on it
[03:01] <foRza> Can someone explain to me how I can make changes to my usbpen be written immediately. (aka SYNC)
[03:02] <n2diy_> Knight_Lord: netstat?
[03:02] <qsrv> is it possible to install firefox 2 on ubuntu?
[03:03] <choix-du-jour> hello, I have a problem: wath is the "classical" chmod for an ubuntu filesystem? 776? 777? 66..or...???
[03:03] <qsrv> what is the easiest way to do this?
[03:03] <Knight_Lord> n2diy_ netstat only gives the open connections, not the ammount of data transfered
[03:03] <capiira> hi people anyone know if there is a way to fix that damn small gnome animation icon in ubuntu nautilus
[03:03] <ubuntu__> mena did u install ntfsprogs?
[03:03] <capiira> ?
[03:03] <mena> yes sure
[03:03] <Knight_Lord> n2diy_ besides it can get very quickly very poluted
[03:03] <mena> as you told me
[03:03] <mena> and it was loading in that time
[03:03] <vleon>  well i edited every thing as was stated in the guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition and installed the proprientry nvidia drivers, and yet i see nothing on my tv screen (yes i plugged the cables)
[03:03] <vleon>  and yes i restarted the comp
[03:04] <Morrissey> Hi, I have a problem with Amarok not transfeering the Album Covers to my ipod. Maybe its an artwork problem? Anyone know how to get this working? In advance, thanks
[03:04] <ubuntu__> ok
[03:04] <ubuntu__> open fstab then
[03:04] <mena> ok
[03:04] <n2diy_> Knight_Lord: ok, good luck.
[03:04] <no-sleep> is anyone interested to give me some feedback about my project: http://timesaver.sf.net/ - version beta 0.5.3 Thank you!
[03:04] <mseney> qsrv, i would just use System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager  and just search for "firefox" you should see version 2 listed and can just check it for installation
[03:05] <ubuntu__> add a new line in the end
[03:05] <jpjacobs> vleon, if i'm not mistaken there is a package nvtvout, or something similar. maybe that helps you?
[03:05] <mena> okay
[03:05] <qsrv> mseney, I'm running dapper, so I guess I need to update to edgy first
[03:05] <qsrv> how do I this?
[03:05] <ndlovu> I have a usb disk that's not automounting at the moment. is there some way to poll usb for removable drives?
[03:05] <vleon> maybe it will thank you, ill search for something like that
[03:05] <ubuntu__> like this /dev/hda6 /media/ntfs   ntfs   defaults,umask=0  0  0
[03:05] <mena> ok
[03:06] <capiira> no one know how to fix that ubuntu broken icon ?
[03:06] <mena> okay then
[03:06] <mena> after that
[03:06] <mena> save then
[03:06] <mseney> qsrv, oh sorry yeah i'm using edgy. my server is running dapper lts so i haven't tried installing firefox on it..
[03:06] <ubuntu__> make a new folder in /media
[03:06] <hsyn> hello to everyone
[03:06] <ubuntu__> name it ntfs
[03:06] <ubuntu__> ok
[03:06] <mena> ok
[03:07] <hsyn> i have a question about usb hdd. how and where do i mount this device
[03:07] <everton137> hi, I've upgraded ubuntu dapper to edgy and I am having problems with Emacs fonts (they appears as squares). I changes /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but problems continues. Does someone know how to solve this? Thanks
[03:07] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  in /media
[03:07] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  ubuntu auto detects it
[03:07] <ndlovu> according to dmesg: "[17181344.956000]  sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb"
[03:08] <jpjacobs> no-sleep, looks neat. however i don't install it because i don't have gnome and, i'm not planning on installing all the libs. Maybe add a general description on the mainpage.
[03:08] <mena> ubuntu__, ubuntu sorry ....i take the link you give right or not if not you give the right line plz ...if you are angry never mind :)
[03:08] <ubuntu__> mena:  what?
[03:08] <everton137> Oh, in xorg.conf I added lines /X11/fonts or /fonts/X11, this was my change.
[03:08] <hsyn> ok i only see cdrom devices in media. does that mean ubuntu don't recognize my hdd
[03:08] <mena> ubuntu__, never mind
[03:09] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  try changing the usb slot
[03:09] <Prabhu-> any help in configuring a NAT server with a single NIC?
[03:09] <ndlovu> ah, sudo mount -a did the trick for me
[03:09] <jpjacobs> no-sleep, oh sorry, didn't read all to the bottom, never mind the last thing i said
[03:10] <no-sleep> jpjacobs: thanks for looking
[03:10] <mena> ! pastebin
[03:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <hsyn> i changed the usb port. no changes! anything else i can try?
[03:10] <ubuntu__> nada
[03:10] <hsyn> ohhhh :'(
[03:11] <ubuntu__> hsyn:  u on ubuntu right?
[03:11] <hsyn> yes
[03:11] <ubuntu__> gnome?
[03:11] <hsyn> yes
[03:11] <trurl> Hi
[03:11] <ubuntu__> well it auto mounts it
[03:11] <ubuntu__> u should have no issue
[03:11] <mena> ubuntu__, see it and tell me right or wrong just right or wrong nothing else >>>>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/830/okay
[03:12] <mena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/830/
[03:12] <hsyn> how can i check if usb is working (drivers) properly
[03:12] <ubuntu__> mena:  nope
[03:12] <ubuntu__> u did add nothing :p
[03:12] <ubuntu__> ur just giving same old file
[03:12] <Morrissey> Hi, I have a problem with Amarok not transfeering the Album Covers to my ipod. Maybe its an artwork problem? Anyone know how to get this working? In advance, thanks ... (maybe I need to compile the libgpod myself somehow?)
[03:12] <mena> hhaahha okay
[03:12] <mena> i will reformate it ti ext3
[03:13] <mena> i am .....bad
[03:13] <mena> :(
[03:13] <acuster> hey all
[03:13] <trurl> I forgot my password to the keyring in which some passwords are saved (ftp, ssh..., they are NOT important, i know them) and some apps like to access the keyring... how may i reset this keyring?
[03:13] <I-kido> /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:13] <app> Does anyone have any experince with Canonical support? Is it worth the money?
[03:13] <acuster> does anyone know how ubuntu will support the integrated intel graphics for X 7.2?
[03:13] <mooey> acuster, #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <acuster> that is, if we have a laptop with the integrated graphics and an ati card, can we choose which graphics system to use?
[03:14] <sexcopter8000> is there a program in ubuntu to check if a fat partition is healthy?
[03:14] <acuster> right
[03:14] <ubuntu__> sexcopter8000:  fsck
[03:14] <maddash> where's the wide-eyed gazelle?
[03:14] <mooey> fsck.vfat, yar
[03:14] <ubuntu__> !fsck
[03:14] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:15] <trurl> !keyring
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <trurl> darn
[03:15] <trurl> ;)
[03:15] <I-kido> lol
[03:15] <Victor```> I do not think there is a 'vfatprogs' package
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> whon knows, why the firefox download dialog's "open" and "show" links and features don'T work udner kubuntu edgy with 2.0 ff?
[03:16] <ubuntu__> mooey:  indian?
[03:16] <mooey> ubuntu__, o_O hmz?
[03:16] <Victor```> 2.0* firefox doesn't seem to like KDE
[03:16] <everton137> Emacs: does someone here uses Emacs on Ubuntu e] Edgy?
[03:16] <ubuntu__> lol ^_^
[03:16] <ubuntu__> vi :)
[03:16] <Victor```> everton137: why?
[03:16] <I-kido> I-kido also 2.0* firefox doesn't seem to like KDE
[03:17] <Victor```> emacs, esc-x, type doctor :X
[03:17] <jrib> !anyone | everton137
[03:17] <ubotu> everton137: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:17] <everton137> Victor```, ubotu, because when I did, no one answered, then I did a not so detailed one. ;-)
[03:18] <capiira> hmmmm noone here ever wondered about that broken gnome nautilus icon ?
[03:18] <everton137> Victor```, I've upgraded ubuntu dapper to edgy and I am having problems with Emacs fonts (they appears as squares). I changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but problems continues. Does someone know how to solve this?
[03:18] <jpjacobs> everton137, ubotu is a bot, not much sense in replying to it...
[03:18] <jrib> capiira: what broken gnome nautilus icon?
[03:19] <everton137> jpjacobs, thanks. if he was paying attetion on forum, he would see his answer was kinda silly
[03:19] <I-kido> Broken Nautilus Icon: wrong or corrupted Icon Theme
[03:19] <ubuntu__> everton137: hi
[03:19] <ubuntu__> everton137:  did u download emacs fonts package?
[03:19] <capiira> its soooo damn small like a point
[03:19] <jrib> capiira: but I don't know what you are referring to.  Maybe a screenshot would help
[03:19] <capiira> even on the live cd
[03:20] <capiira> open the nautilus
[03:20] <capiira> then on the top right there is a icon animation
[03:20] <capiira> on the tool bar where the buttons are
[03:20] <jrib> !enter
[03:20] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:21] <capiira> :)
[03:21] <everton137> ubuntu__, I don't think so. let me apt-cache search and dpkg -l this. could you inform the package name? I just gooogle about my problem, but no one said about extra packages for emcas on edgy...
[03:21] <jrib> capiira: the foot?
[03:21] <capiira> yes
[03:21] <voltagex> I need help with an Avermedia Hybrid card (saa7134)
[03:21] <capiira> looks like a small point here
[03:21] <Ubuntuguy> All -- looking for help with ipod.  under dapper and edgy it doesn't automount.  How can I enable automount?
[03:21] <ubuntu__> everton137:  emcas-intl-fonts
[03:21] <jrib> capiira: ok I see now, yeah I guess it looks small
[03:21] <ubuntu__> see if that helps
[03:22] <capiira> but its not a ubuntu only problem
[03:22] <everton137> dpkg -l | grep emacs | grep font -> ii  emacs-intl-fonts                           1.2.1-6ubuntu1
[03:22] <everton137> ubuntu__, dpkg -l | grep emacs | grep font -> ii  emacs-intl-fonts                           1.2.1-6ubuntu1
[03:23] <voltagex> anyone got ideas on how to get this tv card working?
[03:24] <everton137> ubuntu__, yes, I have it abnd fonts are squares... the strange thing is that xemacs appears its font, but menu at the top doesn't appear
[03:24] <ubuntu__> no idea then sorry
[03:25] <okyz> hi
[03:25] <okyz> Im having trouble installing ubuntu from n]
[03:25] <okyz> another linux computer
[03:26] <deebu> has anyone used axel for downloading files?
[03:26] <n2diy_> okyz: ethernet, wireless?
[03:26] <jhaig> Is it possible to find out why a computer needs rebooting after an update?  I don't remember seeing any kernel packages being updated.
[03:26] <capiira> let me see if there is a public gnome bugzilla
[03:27] <okyz> okyz: no, i have all the data on the CD. its just that im using debootstrap to copy the files
[03:27] <okyz> im trying to set up my thin client with ubuntu
[03:27] <n2diy_> okyz: Sorry, I don't know, good luck.
[03:27] <das-q> hmm, chaining like that ->      tail -f somelog.txt | grep -v 'I don't wanna see this' | grep -v 'and that as well not'     <- doesn't work, why?
[03:28] <das-q> at least it doesn't seem to work with tail, as I remember that it worked in conjunction with a simple cat
[03:28] <jhaig> das-q: In what way does it not work?
[03:28] <pike_> okyz: have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  yet for a guide?
[03:28] <das-q> jhaig: it doesn't print anything anymore
[03:28] <okyz> das-q: -f means follow right
[03:28] <okyz> remove it and it will work
[03:28] <das-q> okyz: right
[03:29] <das-q> it works with only one grep
[03:29] <das-q> that's what i mean
[03:29] <jhaig> das-q: Is the text in the quote just an example or really what you are trying?  It has a single quote character in it which is messing things up.
[03:29] <das-q> I just want to define some strings to filter out
[03:29] <das-q> jhaig: just an example, no stupid errors :)
[03:29] <okyz> das-q: maybe sed will be better
[03:30] <das-q> okyz: thanks, I'll try sed
[03:30] <jrib> das-q: tail -f foo | egrep -v 'foo|bar|cat|dog'    should work.  I'm not sure why yours does not
[03:30] <das-q> jrib: ah, well, that of coure should work too
[03:30] <kenthomson> I can't setup wengophone. Can someone please help?
[03:30] <das-q> tail -f access.log | grep -v 'dapper-security Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS>' | grep -v 'Gecko/20060601 Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS> (Ubuntu-edgy)'
[03:30] <das-q> that was my exact try
[03:30] <okyz> anyone here used debootstrap+
[03:30] <jhaig> das-q: I'm not sure, but you could try escaping the / character
[03:31] <jrib> das-q: when I pipe twice to grep it fails to display anything for me too
[03:31] <jrib> (with tail -f)
[03:31] <das-q> jrib: ah, good to know
[03:31] <das-q> jrib: but I remember that this worked with cat instead. Anyway, I'll try that egrep-solution now
[03:31] <jrib> das-q: well I'm pretty sure it has to do with the -f
[03:32] <n2diy_> okyz: Your using a Dvorak aren't you?
[03:32] <jhaig> jrib: I'm pretty sure that the "tail -f" is fine.
[03:32] <das-q> jrib: but I _want_ to follow the file
[03:32] <okyz> n2diy_: its just a normal qwerty with b0rked keymapping
[03:32] <das-q> jrib: and it _does_ work with only one grep :)
[03:32] <jrib> das-q: right, I'm just saying that's the reason cat is working
[03:32] <pl_ice> yo, whats up? :P
[03:33] <das-q> alright, it works that way:   tail -f access.log | egrep -v 'dapper-security Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS>|Gecko/20060601 Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS> (Ubuntu-edgy)'
[03:33] <n2diy_> okyz: ok, the ? and the + keys are adjacent on a Dvorak.
[03:33] <das-q> thanks people
[03:33] <pl_ice> guys, in gaim, how do i search for other users? can't find that option....
[03:33] <okyz> n2diy_: i didnt find the question mark here, so i typed + and figured you would understand :P
[03:34] <daedra> yo
[03:34] <das-q> ah, dammit, it doesn't filter out at least the latter one, geez :o)
[03:34] <n2diy_> okyz: 10-4!  :)
[03:34] <daedra> how do I add a gpg key to open up a repo in my sources list?
[03:34] <bronze> Hi all, I Just installed Kubuntu and i was wondering if there are any major differences between how Ubuntu and Kubunto system are administered?
[03:34] <bronze> *Kubuntu
[03:34] <jrib> das-q: maybe surround each expression in (), like  (foo)|(bar), the () are special in egrep I think
[03:34] <das-q> jrib: just doing so :)
[03:35] <das-q> jrib: had to escape the other parenthesis too
[03:35] <okyz> n2diy_: this debootstrap script is really weird. :S I dont like it one bit
[03:35] <eXistenZ> debootstrap is like a configuration for the chroot env?
[03:35] <das-q> tail -f access.log | egrep -v '(dapper-security Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS>|Gecko/20060601 Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS> \(Ubuntu-edgy\))'
[03:35] <das-q> wonderful :o)
[03:35] <n2diy_> okyz: Fine business, just the name scares me.
[03:35] <benkong2> hello all
[03:36] <daedra> how do I add a gpg key to open up a repo in my sources list?
[03:36] <benkong2> anyone help on a question of blacklist and orinco_pci driver for my intersil prism 2.5 wireless card?
[03:36] <jrib> daedra: apt-key add
[03:37] <daedra> jrib: "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[03:37] <daedra> :(
[03:37] <kenthomson> Is there someway i can call someone who is logged in the 'yahoo-messenger'? a pc-to-pc call, without using the official yahoo messenger? Does GAIM allow that? please help
[03:37] <jrib> daedra: you need to have the key
[03:37] <jrib> daedra: it's apt-key add file.gpg   for example
[03:38] <benkong2> If I just add prism2_pci and hostap_pci to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist will that allow me to get a working wireless connection?
[03:38] <daedra> jrib: yeah thats what I did
[03:38] <kenthomson> jrib, could you please help me with the above question
[03:38] <jrib> daedra: can you link me to the .gpg file you are using?
[03:38] <daedra> jrib: but apparently the file has no valid OpenPGP info :S
[03:38] <gnomefreak> jrib: hav eyou ever tried adding time stamp to a terminal?
[03:39] <jrib> kenthomson: I don't know, try #gaim
[03:39] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, can you please help me with the above question
[03:39] <kenthomson> jrib, thank you, i shall try it
[03:39] <pl_ice> benkong2 try  it ;) it will remove the module , should work
[03:39] <jrib> gnomefreak: I have it, but I use zsh, here is what my prompt looks like:  (jasonr@luso:~)%                                                                     (9:39/8157)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: voip in gaim?
[03:39] <daedra> jrib: http://deb.grml.org/dists/grml-stable/Release.gpg
[03:39] <gnomefreak> thats default for zsh isnt it?
[03:40] <jrib> gnomefreak: default zsh is just  %  :P
[03:40] <smithw> Why does "echo `dpkg -l` >> somefile.txt" gets me a file with everything in one line?
[03:40] <hhanne> hi there. I use ndiswrapper for my pci wlan card. but the module will not load automatically, how can i change that?
[03:40] <imhotepp> Guys, I accidentaly removed myself from the admin group using usermod, now I can't sudo and do any administrative task
[03:40] <jrib> gnomefreak: mine is similar to what you get with  prompt elite2
[03:40] <math_> hello, how can I rename files with spaces like: "some file here.txt" to "some_file_here.txt" underscores ?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> jrib: thats good than. i will play with it a bit see what i can do with it
[03:41] <imhotepp> how can I put myself back to the admin group please?
[03:41] <jrib> math_: do you know about regex?
[03:41] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, this is my requirement: I need to call someone who is logged into the official yahoo messenger. Is it possible without using the official yahoo messenger?
[03:41] <math_> no?
[03:41] <jrib> imhotepp: reboot, choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu,  then run this command:   adduser YOUR_USERNAME_HERE admin
[03:41] <math_> jrib, never heard of it
[03:41] <bronze> imhotepp: boot single user and edit the /etc/group fileby hand?
[03:41] <pl_ice> imhotepp :)
[03:41] <imhotepp> damnit
[03:41] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: you may need to use ekgika(sp) or skype or something of the like
[03:41] <math_> jrib, with the command rename it must be posible?
[03:42] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, i am having/using ekiga
[03:42] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, but i cannot enter someone's yahoo--id, in ekiga and call them directly.
[03:42] <jrib> math_: yes, with a regex.  I think   rename -n 'y/ /_/' *     should work.  Try it, it won't do anyuthing for real unless you remove the -n
[03:42] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: than i dont know i have telephones i use for calls
[03:42] <pl_ice> imhotepp yeh single user....
[03:42] <daedra> jrib: does it work for u?
[03:42] <imhotepp> grub doesnt show menu, ubuntu is the only OS in this machine
[03:42] <math_> -n is for testing?
[03:43] <math_> jrib,
[03:43] <imhotepp> how do I choose single user?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: you may want to see if #ekiga is open and if so if they can help
[03:43] <jrib> daedra: nope, weird
[03:43] <jrib> imhotepp: press escape when you are booting up
[03:43] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, ok
[03:43] <daedra> jrib: yeah I thought it was a quirk
[03:43] <pl_ice> imhotepp search google ubuntu single user, very simple
[03:43] <kenthomson> jrib, #gaim is almost asleep :(
[03:44] <daedra> jrib: thanks anyway
[03:44] <math_> jrib, thank you very much
[03:44] <math_> thats what I was looking for :)
[03:44] <jrib> math_: http://www.regular-expressions.info/  are good to know
[03:44] <imhotepp> so the single user mode is unprotected (no password?)
[03:44] <math_> realy powerfull to change names like that
[03:45] <jrib> imhotepp: correct, unless you set a root password
[03:45] <imhotepp> and I will be logged in as root?
[03:45] <pl_ice> imhotepp yes
[03:45] <n2diy_> jrib: + :)
[03:45] <NixNewb> can i make this ubuntu box act as a gateway with the uplink a wireless card?
[03:45] <pl_ice> imhotepp no passwd required for root
[03:45] <imhotepp> then I can just use usermod to undo my blunder?
[03:45] <jrib> imhotepp: the adduser command I gave you is probably simpler, but yes you could use that
[03:46] <pl_ice> imhotepp yes, or like the guy said, u can edit the files by hand, just an ascii file, simple
[03:46] <jrib> imhotepp: I guess usermod is how you got into this situation?
[03:46] <imhotepp> jrib:yup
[03:46] <imhotepp> i didn't realize -G takes u away from ALL other groups
[03:46] <imhotepp> :(
[03:47] <pl_ice> imhotepp we all learn on the mistakes :P (wish could say that to my boss...)
[03:47] <bronze> pl_ice: you can, make sure you do that part on a test system tho'  :-)
[03:48] <pl_ice> bronze couple of beers and i can do anything ;)
[03:49] <bronze> :)
[03:50] <imhotepp> Thanks fellas, I 'll go test this....
[03:50] <imhotepp> before anyone here finds out what happened to me
[03:50] <pl_ice> imhotepp ;) g'luck, u won't have much problems with that
[03:51] <bronze> I have a machine on a Static Ip LAN, and the Network GUi admin tool isn't working. it keeps losing any info I put in it so I am setting up networking by hand (not on the machine I'm typing on obviously). I have created /etc/resolv.conf but I can't get any DNS lookups to work?  Can anyone help me?
[03:51] <benkong2> what is this error telling me on an emerge -uD world "ebuild', '/', 'app-admin/eselect-1.0.7', 'nomerge') pulled in by"?
[03:52] <math_> jrib, the manual of rename says, to rename upper cases of names to lower cases, you've to type rename y/A-Z/a-z/ *, but then the termiUnrecognized character \xE2 at (eval 1) line 1.
[03:52] <math_> nal says:
[03:52] <jrib> benkong2: wrong room?
[03:52] <kenthomson> Anyone knows how i can call someone on yahoo-messenger?
[03:52] <benkong2> jrib yea ur right sorry
[03:53] <pl_ice> bronze , resolv.conf leave that alone, itls all in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <jrib> math_: weird, do you have funky characters in the names?
[03:53] <lupine_85> pl_ice: no, nameserver stuff can go in resolv.conf
[03:53] <bronze> pl_ice: ? I dont understand.  Does that mean I have to put resolv.conf in that dir?
[03:53] <math_> erm not realy
[03:53] <math_> jrib,
[03:54] <jrib> math_: does it happen when you specify a particular file instead of *
[03:54] <n2diy_> bronze:  you created /etc/resolv.conf? Who own its?
[03:54] <ronalde> shorewall (on edgy) doesn't log to /var/log/messages while all shorewall, sysklog, klogd log-related settings are default. Does anybody have pointers?
[03:54] <bronze> n2diy_: root
[03:54] <yokobr> hi
[03:54] <math_> jrib, both
[03:54] <n2diy_> bronze:  that is correct. ?
[03:54] <pl_ice> yeh, resolf.conf got ur nameserver but it's setup automatically through the file in networks
[03:54] <pl_ice> thats how i do it
[03:55] <yokobr> does anyone know a way to get xgl under ubuntu 64?
[03:55] <bronze> n2diy_: root owns /etc/resolv.conf
[03:55] <SoulChild> hey... short question, how can i hide a terminal?
[03:55] <Rage___> SoulChild: minimize it?
[03:55] <bronze> pl_ice: which file? interfaces?
[03:55] <n2diy_> bronze:  that is correct.
[03:55] <SoulChild> RAGE___ no i dont want to see it
[03:55] <SoulChild> RAGE___ even not in the taskbar
[03:55] <pl_ice> SoulChild kdocker program, i think thats what u want? google kdocker
[03:56] <bronze> n2diy_: but after restarting network, i get no lookups
[03:56] <pl_ice> bronze /etc/network/interfaces  thats the setting for lan etc
[03:56] <SoulChild> pl_ice: i ve connected via vpn in termnal, and since i am connected terminal is not editable anymore... so i dont want to see it
[03:56] <n2diy_> bronze:  how many interfaces do you see with ifconfig?
[03:56] <bronze> pl_ice: I'm familiar with the file, had to use to set up my Nic, What do I put in it?
[03:56] <jhaig> SoulChild: Why do you need to hide it?  You could run screen, detatch and then close the terminal window.
[03:57] <bronze> n2diy_:  eth0 and lo
[03:57] <jrib> math_: k, can you paste your last command here so I can try it?
[03:57] <pl_ice> SoulChild hm, not sure, i think i know what u mean
[03:57] <n2diy_> bronze:  cool, can you ping eth0, or its IP address?
[03:57] <math_> rename y/A-Z/a-z/ *
[03:57] <pl_ice> bronze , man interfaces
[03:57] <math_> jrib, rename y/A-Z/a-z/ *
[03:57] <bronze> ping it iwth itself?
[03:58] <jrib> math_: use ' not,
[03:58] <math_> ooh
[03:58] <bronze> n2diy_: yes. that works
[03:58] <n2diy_> bronze:  cool, can you ping your router?
[03:58] <math_> jrib, wait...
[03:58] <Encep> yeah baby
[03:58] <bronze> yes
[03:58] <godzilla8nj2day> Trying to set up network persistence (similar to www.slax.org/webconfig.php but on my own server) for multiple users. Is there any documentation on Ubuntu LiveCD persistence more detailed than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence?
[03:58] <Encep> oh yaeh
[03:58] <gean> hi everybody! is there any ubuntu package (orr at least linux free soft), that can do the following: combine a PDF file (mathematics, say) with sound (ogg, say), such that the result can be seen as a ``film'', where the image does not change very quickly, but rather every 20 seconds up to 2 min ?! Help & suggestions are highly appreciated!
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> nie
[03:59] <Encep> me
[03:59] <Encep> nue
[03:59] <jrib> Encep: stop please
[03:59] <bronze> pl_ice: don't see any optin in man interfaces for setting nameservers orDNS services. can you Hint me what keyword to look for in that manpage?
[03:59] <SoulChild> hey,... how can i hide the terminal, i ve connected to a vpn client and i am not in edit mode anymore, so how can i hide it ?
[04:00] <bronze> n2diy_: yes I can.
[04:00] <math_> jrib, u sure to use ' instead of  ?
[04:00] <n2diy_> bronze:  cool, can you ping yahoo.com?
[04:00] <jrib> math_: yes
[04:00] <pl_ice> man iwconfig or man ifconfig
[04:00] <bronze> no
[04:00] <gean> i am aware of the swftools, but it is not simple to do the job: combine PDF + ogg in a ``rather starry movie''
[04:00] <gean> any better suggestion?!
[04:00] <math_> then it does'nt do anything
[04:00] <jhaig> SoulChild: I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but you could run 'screen' in the terminal, then detach when you have finished with it and close the terminal window.
[04:00] <bronze> n2diy_: no, get unkown host
[04:01] <pl_ice> bronze do u want my config, i'm going through a router, static ip, can post it if u like
[04:01] <bronze> pl_ice: please.
[04:01] <jhaig> SoulChild: 'screen' continues to run in the background.
[04:01] <jrib> math_: use -v, does it tell you anything?
[04:01] <math_> jrib, nothing happend when I do: 'y/A-Z/a-z/'
[04:01] <n2diy_> bronze:  bummer, check your router configuration, either your packets aren't getting out, or the returns aren't allowed, or maybe both?
[04:01] <SoulChild> jhaig: no, i can't type anymore cause i am connected to internet
[04:02] <bronze> n2diy_: router is fine. all other systems on the LAn (like this one) are fine.
[04:02] <jhaig> SoulChild: Well, you have to run screen at the start, and then do everything in the screen session.
[04:02] <math_> jrib, rename -v 'y/A-Z/a-z/'
[04:02] <math_> reading filenames from STDIN
[04:02] <lightup> can anybody help me with compiling cairo please?  configure keeps telling me to install freetype and fontconfig but apt-get tells me fontconfig is the newest version and i have just compiled and installed freetype
[04:02] <n2diy_> bronze:  all behind the same router?
[04:02] <math_> jrib, after that I cant type
[04:02] <jrib> math_: you forgot the * to tell it what files to work on
[04:02] <jrib> math_: press ctrld
[04:02] <jrib> math_: press ctrl-d
[04:02] <math_> ah ofcour
[04:02] <math_> se
[04:02] <bronze> n2diy_: yes
[04:02] <SoulChild> jhaig: okay thanks
[04:02] <pl_ice> bronze http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/832/
[04:03] <n2diy_> bronze:  hmm
[04:03] <jhaig> SoulChild: but that is the only way I can think of doing it.
[04:03] <bronze> interesting just pinged cnn.com by its IP address.  and got error - network unreachable....
[04:03] <math_> jrib, ok it works :)
[04:03] <bronze> but pinged it from this machine just fine.
[04:03] <bronze> so I clearly have an issue on my Ubuntu system
[04:04] <maurox> hello does anyone had problems updating libc6 ????????
[04:04] <kenthomson> Can i download yahoo messenger from ubuntu repos??????
[04:04] <godzilla8nj2day> Trying to set up network persistence (similar to www.slax.org/webconfig.php but on my own server) for multiple users. Is there any documentation on Ubuntu LiveCD persistence more detailed than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence ? Is this the right place for this question? No posts on this in the forums.
[04:04] <math_> jrib, last question
[04:04] <math_> jrib, how to do this with all sub-dirs?
[04:04] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: you can download gaim or kopete, which are compatible
[04:04] <bitmvnch> afaik
[04:04] <jrib> math_: what shell do you use?
[04:04] <math_> jrib, -R does not work
[04:04] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, i want to call yahoo users
[04:04] <n2diy_> bronze:  what about the ethernet cable, it could be loose or bad, what else could it be?
[04:05] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: yes gaim or kopete should support the yahoo protocol
[04:05] <math_> the default one from gnome
[04:05] <Dimensions> kenthomson: why do u need yahoo msn ... u can use Gaim ... which is all in one ...
[04:05] <bitmvnch> otherwise go to yahoo.com, see if they have a gnu/linux client
[04:05] <kenthomson> Dimensions, bitmvnch, i am talking about 'calling' users who are logged-into the official yahoo messenger. calling as in voicecalls to users with yahoo-ids.
[04:06] <kenthomson> Can i download the official yahoo messenger from ubuntu repos?
[04:06] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: then go to yahoo.com, you probably need the proprietary client (which stinks)
[04:06] <bronze> n2diy_: have to assume its good. i can ping the router
[04:06] <jrib> math_: k, you are using bash.  zsh will let you specify **/* as a recursive glob.  But with bash, you'll have to use the 'find' command along with -exec.  From the top of my head,  find -exec rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' '{}' \;
[04:06] <bitmvnch> no, you can't, afaik, because yahoo probably does not allow redistribution.
[04:06] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, how else do i place calls to yahoo users?
[04:06] <bronze> it was Ok yesterday too.. :-)
[04:06] <bitmvnch> it's a different kind of software, for a different kind of world.
[04:06] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, ok
[04:06] <n2diy_> bronze:  ah yes, that is correct.
[04:06] <bitmvnch> knethomson: get new friends or use an evil OS ;)
[04:07] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, what about calling someone on Windows (pc-to-pc)? what is the easiest way? (low-latency, clear voice is a must)?
[04:07] <math_> jrib, ok
[04:07] <math_> jrib, what is zsh? some shell?
[04:07] <n2diy_> bronze:  do you have another Ubuntu box connected to this router?
[04:07] <jrib> math_: yep, it's another shell.  Has some nify features
[04:07] <kenthomson> n2diy_, 'box' sounds ugly :(
[04:07] <bitmvnch> kenthomson: you can use applications like skype which are, last i checked, supported on all major platforms, but that also won't be in ubuntu repo afaik.
[04:08] <n2diy_> bronze:  do you have another Ubuntu box connected to this router?
[04:08] <math_> sudo apt-get install zsh? :)
[04:08] <bronze> n2diy_: pl_ice Got it! :)
[04:08] <jrib> math_: yep
[04:08] <kenthomson> bitmvnch, ok
[04:08] <math_> ah ok
[04:08] <bitmvnch> there is also google talk only on windows, but i know nothing more of it than i can't use it.
[04:08] <bronze> n2diy_: pl_ice added "gateway line to /etc/networkinginterfaces.
[04:08] <pike_> kenthomson: ekiga is a good free alternative to skype i beliece
[04:08] <bronze> much Gracias fellas!
[04:08] <n2diy_> ????????????
[04:08] <n2diy_> bronze:  do you have another Ubuntu box connected to this router?
[04:08] <bronze> n2diy_: no
[04:09] <kenthomson> pike_, and how do i call a windows users through ekiga? Is it available on windows? And is it easy to setup for the windows user? (you see i am causing the windows user undue problems by asking for a seperate software to talk to me). ANd has it got clear voic, low-latency?
[04:09] <n2diy_> bronze:  ok, thank you.  ummm
[04:09] <bronze> n2diy_: My dns lookups are working now
[04:09] <lupine_85> kenthomson: it's just SIP
[04:09] <bitmvnch> heh, i sniped at both of google and vonage's HR departments over the fact that they couldn't communicate with my SIP phone.
[04:09] <bronze> i was missing the gateway definition in the interfaces file
[04:09] <bitmvnch> "what do you mean can i hear you now? aren't you a phone company?"
[04:09] <bronze> i wonder why the gUI lost that?
[04:09] <bitmvnch> ;)
[04:10] <lupine_85> so - it being an open standard - you can call any other user with a SIP softphone
[04:10] <kenthomson> lupine_85, Hi! :)
[04:10] <lupine_85> :p
[04:10] <n2diy_> bronze:  can you surf?
[04:10] <godzilla8nj2day> anyone? (cricket, cricket) i'm trying to get some help creating a livecd that stores persistence for multiple users on a mounted drive on my server. does anyone know of any documentation on persistence?
[04:10] <kenthomson> lupine_85, so tell me, is there a way, in which i can call users who are logged-into the official yahoo messenger?
[04:10] <pl_ice> bronze gui does not work for a long time ~ a year :P
[04:10] <bronze> n2diy_: pl_ice   OK, Now  How do i start up the Internet thingy ?  I want my own Like Al Gore has.... :-)
[04:10] <mena> ubuntu__, Are You here
[04:10] <bronze> pl_ice: aha.  Good to know
[04:11] <yokobr> hey guys, anyone knows a way to run dapper 64bit+beryl+nvidia?
[04:11] <lupine_85> kenthomson: I have no idea.  Is this always gottu be so difficult?
[04:11] <kenthomson> :)
[04:11] <yokobr> ive tryied a loot man
[04:11] <yokobr> cant find
[04:11] <mena> okay friends how can i remove all the kubuntu apps and the kde with command
[04:11] <lupine_85> kenthomson: if you don't like it, you can ask Yahoo for a Linux version of their client, I guess
[04:12] <jrib> mena: how did you install it?
[04:12] <kenthomson> lupine_85, or else tell me this, what is the easiest way to call someone on a windows PC? (what software do i ask him/her to use as their SIP softphone)?
[04:12] <jrib> mena: and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:12] <mena> jrib, thrwo comand
[04:12] <lupine_85> any SIP softphone.
[04:12] <kenthomson> lupine_85, one exists for linux, but remember we are against proprietary software? :)
[04:12] <jrib> mena: which command?
[04:12] <kenthomson> lupine_85, as in...?any recommendations?
[04:12] <Dimensions> kenthomson:  the easiest way is to use Skype ... its quality is best ... and its used on both windows and linux
[04:12] <lupine_85> no. I don't use windows :p
[04:12] <mena> the terminal
[04:12] <lupine_85> Dimensions: skype quality is crap
[04:12] <jrib> mena: apt-get or aptitude?
[04:13] <kenthomson> lupine_85, Dimensions <clears throat> ??
[04:13] <mena> wait a secone
[04:13] <mena> d
[04:13] <lupine_85> it's *also* properietary, locks you in, and steals your u/s bandwidth :p
[04:13] <Dimensions> lupine_85:  we use it in professional life ... in our office ...
[04:13] <lupine_85> poor you :/
[04:13] <kenthomson> Dimensions, it's developement is stalled on Linux
[04:13] <Dimensions> we use Skype to talk to any one around the world ...
[04:13] <lupine_85> what's wrong with IAX ?
[04:13] <bronze> lupine_85: We are using skype here, quality seems fine.
[04:13] <mena> jrib, apt-get
[04:13] <jrib> mena: k, what version of ubuntu?
[04:14] <bronze> lupine_85: what should we be listening for?
[04:14] <kenthomson> Dimensions, 'around the world' as in, International space station or the ones residing on the surface? :)
[04:14] <mena> jrib, 6.10
[04:14] <lupine_85> I'd have thought a company wouldn't like skype taking their bandwidth
[04:14] <Dimensions> kenthomson:  just go to skpe.com or sudo apt-get install skype
[04:14] <jrib> mena: try 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'  and then maybe 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[04:14] <kenthomson> Dimensions, ok
[04:14] <lupine_85> bronze: just general poor quality here
[04:14] <Ubuntuguy> All -- looking for help with ipod.  under dapper and edgy it doesn't automount.  How can I enable automount?
[04:14] <lupine_85> 8128/832 low-latency broadband, as well
[04:14] <Dimensions> lupine_85:  may be ur bandwidth sux ?
[04:15] <mena> jrib, okay but that will reomve the whole kubintu with apps
[04:15] <jrib> mena: in theory (I've never tried it)
[04:15] <lupine_85> it's only one of the fastest residential links in the UK :p
[04:15] <kenthomson> Dimensions, make that skype.com :)
[04:15] <bronze> lupine_85: oh, ok. sorry to here that.
[04:15] <Dimensions> yeah kenthomson :)
[04:15] <kenthomson> lupine_85, and for internet telephony you use <what software>?
[04:15] <lupine_85> I use linphone
[04:15] <mena> jrib, okay ...so what do you recomend for my ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:15] <Dimensions> lupine_85:  ... for us it works just like linephone
[04:15] <kenthomson> lupine_85, say that again? :)
[04:16] <jrib> mena: whichever you like better.  They are both good.  Using both is fine too
[04:16] <lupine_85> linphone is fine, ekiga is fine
[04:16] <lupine_85> linphone lets me select my second soundcard for in & output, so I use it
[04:16] <kenthomson> lupine_85, linphone, ekiga, wengo. Take your pick and recommend one to me
[04:16] <mena> jrib, okay
[04:16] <lupine_85> never heard of wengo
[04:16] <kenthomson> lupine_85, though i only have one soundcard
[04:16] <lupine_85> ekiga is prettier than linphone
[04:16] <lupine_85> apart from that, and the soundcard thing, they're much of a muchness
[04:16] <godzilla8nj2day> have USB Stick persistence working. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence  says root of auto mounted hd can also store persistence so long as named casper-rw. ne1 know of docs on persistence that would make multiple user persistence possible on networked server? like www.slax.org/webconfig.php ?
[04:17] <Dimensions> ekiga isn't for windows ?
[04:17] <mena> jrib, but when i install kubuntu some apps has erros in icons
[04:17] <xopher-> What, kenthomson, you didnt give up on ubuntu yet? :P
[04:17] <mena> k apps
[04:17] <jrib> mena: I don't know about that
[04:17] <kenthomson> xopher-, Looks like everybody is ganging me up. :)
[04:17] <lupine_85> Dimensions: last time I checked they had a preliminary build of ekiga for windows
[04:17] <mena> jrib, okay
[04:17] <lupine_85> very experimental though
[04:17] <xopher-> kenthomson, hehe, that happens yaeh :)
[04:17] <lupine_85> but since you can use any SIP softphone with it, it's not an issue
[04:17] <Past_Images> hi guys, got a problem. i've added a Pictures folder to home and chosen it as screensaver in preferences - but the transitions are so slow on my old hardware - its for a shop window display, is there a way to change the settings...? please help me out?
[04:18] <kenthomson> lupine_85, i suggest you rush to http://www.wengophone.com/index.php/homePage, i recommend it
[04:18] <Past_Images> just need to change how many secs each pic is on and also change transition type to none??
[04:18] <Past_Images> but don't know where to do it
[04:18] <kenthomson> xopher- , you know of anyway to call users logged into the official yahoo messenger? call as in, voice call.
[04:18] <blackangel> hello how do you do?
[04:18] <mena> jrib, thanks i think the seconed comand you give will remove all k apps ...thanks again
[04:18] <Dimensions> well kenthomson ... why dont u download all of them ? and see which one is better and then come and tell us ur results ... my experience is telling me skype as we use it from UK to America Asia Europe ...
[04:19] <Morrissey> !easysource
[04:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:19] <lupine_85> mm, SIP?
[04:19] <Dimensions> now if you are going to ask 957 users of channel thats something else then ....
[04:19] <bronze> sweet!   just mystyped URL > www.ubunto.com,  got redirected to ubuntu.com!
[04:19] <kenthomson> Dimensions, i shall perform the survey and post the results at www.myLifeSucksDueToLInux.com, ok? Or do you need more sarcasm? :)
[04:19] <seanj> so much for user-friendly :(
[04:19] <xopher-> kenthomson, nope, sorry, haven't used internet calling that much.. actually only once or twice, and that was with windows 95, so.. well.. yeah.. :)
[04:19] <kenthomson> Dimensions, all this extra effort is just not my cup-o-tea :)
[04:20] <Dimensions> nah kenthomson instead post it to ...www.iamconfusedhead.com
[04:20] <kenthomson> xopher- , you got your hair-cut or are they draggin behind you on the ground? :)
[04:20] <bronze> kenthomson: so why did you invent UNIx anyway?
[04:20] <kenthomson> bronze, ain't funny.
[04:20] <Dimensions> :)
[04:20] <lupine_85> install $linux_app on PC 1, $windows_app on PC2, call
[04:20] <bronze> kenthomson: is your nick your real name?
[04:20] <lupine_85> but yeah. I'm off for revision now
[04:20] <kenthomson> bronze, i didn't think it would come in my after life to haunt me that way
[04:21] <kenthomson> bronze, real name = nick name (that's what normal people do) :)
[04:21] <Dimensions> tc lupine_85...
[04:21] <jpjacobs> i saw a post on freshmeat about skype. it apears they slush anybodies calls through random clients to get thelm through NATs etc: freshmeat.net/articles/view/2079/
[04:21] <cherva> anyone to help installing Flash 8 Pro ?
[04:21] <bronze> kenthomson: heh, sorry.  At least you don't have an exact match to Ken thompson
[04:21] <Dimensions> lol bronze
[04:22] <kenthomson> bronze, yeah the 'p' is missing, but don't worry that's good :)
[04:22] <constrictor> is mozilla sunbird in the repos
[04:22] <riaal> Hi, I just inserted a wierless network card in my laptop, no installation detection stuff poped up. what do I need to do? It's an Dell and a C-net network card
[04:22] <n2diy_> constrictor: not since last week
[04:22] <xopher-> kenthomson, actually I got out of the army 6 months ago, I was practically shaven bald for 12months there, now it's uhm, normal I guess, I let it grow a bit, just to make sure I was able to get my hair back, gonna cut it soon though.
[04:22] <constrictor> oh no
[04:23] <xopher-> But. no, not shoulder length
[04:23] <kenthomson> xopher- , i thought cave-man had it that way ("never used internet telephony") :)
[04:23] <pike_> riaal: you might just check your network config tool and see if the device is showing up. like eth1 or ath0 or wlan0 or whatever
[04:23] <n2diy_> constrictor: I mean I checked the repos last week, and it wasn' t there, I got it off the moz site.
[04:23] <kenthomson> xopher- , i was talking about ankle-length :)
[04:23] <constrictor> i/me banging my head against the wall
[04:23] <kenthomson> !offtopic > kenthomson :)
[04:23] <constrictor> oh right
[04:23] <xopher-> kenthomson, hehe, I type faster than I talk I guess :D
[04:23] <xopher-> :>
[04:23] <constrictor> feeling very dumb right now
[04:24] <riaal> pike_: cool, so its normal that nothing pops up? It looks almost unpowerd (no lights)
[04:24] <kenthomson> constrictor, i don't think anyone here feels any different :)
[04:24] <cherva> anyone installed Flash 8 Pro ???
[04:24] <pike_> riaal: ah well there would idealy be lights :)
[04:24] <kenthomson> cherva, i have it on <what's the other os called?> :)
[04:24] <riaal> pike_: =) that tue
[04:24] <Falstius> BSD?
[04:24] <mutabaruk> does anybody know how to ger rid of the irritating 'your session has been saved' popup when you power down
[04:25] <n2diy_> constrictor: ?????? Go get, and make sure to install it under /opt.
[04:25] <mutabaruk> ?
 how did you installed it ?
[04:25] <constrictor> aha
[04:25] <vleon> is ter someone here that uses tv out? i seem to have problems with that?
[04:25] <kenthomson> cherva, on Windoze? :)
[04:25] <constrictor> you mean decompress it into opt?
[04:25] <cherva> on ubuntu
[04:25] <godzilla8nj2day> what's the best doc on creating your own livecd? Does anyone know if you can use a mounted network drive instead of usb stick for persistence?
[04:25] <kenthomson> cherva, i ain't did it
[04:25] <n2diy_> constrictor: that would work too.
[04:26] <kenthomson> lupine_85, xopher-, Bye! Happy UBUNT-ing
[04:26] <constrictor> sorry n2diy_ was there another method?
[04:26] <xopher-> kenthomson, bye
[04:26] <n2diy_> constrictor: do you have the package?
[04:26] <constrictor> n2diy_:nah going to d/l it now
[04:27] <cherva> ok but it did it on SuSE 10.0 from the first time and on ubuntu flash comes on with an error to reinstall very strange isin't it
[04:27] <n2diy_> constrictor: ok, it is easier to play with, when you have it. :)
[04:27] <patientfox> hello... im trying to do apt-get install libapache2-mod-mono and i get this error from apt:
[04:27] <cherva> i copyed all the files (as one tutorial sad) and inported the reg file from win and bam "please reinstall flash"
[04:27] <patientfox> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:28] <patientfox>   libapache2-mod-mono: Depends: mono-apache-server (< 1.1.14) but it is not going to be installed or
[04:28] <patientfox>                                 mono-apache-server2 (< 1.1.14) but <IP_ADDRESS>-2 is to be installed
[04:28] <patientfox> how do i fix this so i can do the install ... ?
[04:28] <patientfox> any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
[04:28] <pl_ice> g'night ;)
[04:28] <n2diy_> constrictor: hope it works out ok. :)
[04:28] <jpjacobs> !past>patientfox