[12:12] <histo> columb: no output is good.  Make sure you don't have the digital selected for output you won't be able to do 5.1
[12:16] <BluesKaj_> columb, digital/spdif out is for audio receivers/amplifiers or devices in audio systes that are equipped to convert digital audio to analog
[12:19] <zooz> is there a a channel for ubuntu dev, for packaging issues specifically?
[12:20] <Pici> zooz: #ubuntu-packaging
[12:20] <zooz> thanks
[12:20] <columb> histo, it's analog. But I can't select 5.1 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27770548/t/au.png
[12:22] <histo> columb: Is it capable of 5.1?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> zooz  or #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:25] <BluesKaj_> columb, real 5.1 is Dolby Digital or DTS digital stream which requires a separate soundsystem , the settings on your speaker system usually determine how the sound is directed to the connected speakers
[12:27] <BluesKaj_> columb, try the Soundblaster option
[12:28] <myalkboy> hi
[12:28] <columb> BluesKaj_, I don't want to touch it. It randomly speed ups audio.
[12:28] <BluesKaj_> then your driver is faulty
[12:29] <columb> Seems like intel ALC1200 does not support 5.1.
[12:30] <columb> e.g. uses only 2 speakers out of 6.
[12:33] <columb> Is there a way to force it to use all speakers?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> columb  maybe the people in #ubuntu-studio can help better
[12:37] <BluesKaj_> columb, look at the speaker connection options on the subwoofer amp
[12:37] <columb> Where subwoofer amp is?
[12:39] <Pici> columb: Where do the wires out of your computer to the speakers go?
[12:44] <lemmy> Hi, I'm a little lost. My machine requests an IP addr for eth0 right after unlocking the crypted disk which breaks my bonding setup (eth0 is supposed to be a slave for bond0). I can't figure out how to prevent eth0 from requesting and subsequently receiving an IP.
[12:46] <lemmy> I'm on 12.10
[12:48] <Magentium> Allo Allo Ubuntu Users!
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> lemmy  is this useful http://blog.brightbox.co.uk/posts/howto-do-ethernet-bonding-on-ubuntu-properly
[12:52] <cloneG> hello the bongos sound at start up are missing! I followed this thread and it restored the welcome sound but not the bongos: Dash/Applications/Startup Applications
[12:52] <cloneG> Click on Add
[12:52] <cloneG> Name:Startup Sound
[12:52] <cloneG> Command:/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login" --description="GNOME Login sound"
[12:52] <cloneG> Click on Add and Close
[12:52] <FloodBot1> cloneG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <cloneG> Reboot PC
[12:52] <lemmy> MonkeyDust: I've been using my bonding setup on my old laptop (also 12.10) for quite a while without problems. If I manually remove all devices, reload the eth driver and start networking then, it correctly comes up.
[12:52] <lemmy> MonkeyDust: So I doubt that my interfaces config is broken.
[12:54] <cloneG> the bongos sound is missing I restored the welcome sound doing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801409/ but the bongos are still missing
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> lemmy  if your question is beyond this channel, try ##networking
[12:55] <cloneG> and one more question...which is the difference between $ sudo su and $ sudo -s ?
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> columb, the wires connected to the speakers , they're on the subwoofewr , right? ...look there for options
[12:56] <jrib> cloneG: I suggest you just use « sudo -i » if you need a root shell.  It will properly reset the environment.  As for your question, there isn't much difference that I am aware of except for the first one probably calling an extra process
[12:57] <columb> Aww. Can't find my subwoofer remote control.
[12:57] <columb> Oh. Found it.
[12:57] <cloneG> jrib what do you mean with an extra process?
[12:58] <jrib> cloneG: think "bash -c bash" vs "bash"
[12:58] <cloneG> jrib that is to say a duplicate
[12:59] <jrib> cloneG: no
[13:04] <jml> hello
[13:04] <jml> an acquaintance of mine is having trouble UEFI issues with 13.04. he's asked a question on askubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/312927/booting-13-04-64-bit-pendrive-in-uefi-freezes-immediately-after-loading-ramdisk
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | jml start here
[13:06] <benedikt> How can I change ubuntu's default mountpoints away from /media (preferrably to /mnt). I want to use /media for something else
[13:07] <histo> benedikt: media should be used btw for removable media
[13:07] <Ramsrambo> need driver for soundblaster card
[13:08] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, run sudo aplay -l , pastebin the output
[13:11] <A1Recon> VLC is not working properly. I cannot see the seek bar and the other functions and not even the "File Edit View Tools" on the top..... Any suggestions??
[13:11] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_:http://pastebin.com/rjnK1AeT
[13:11] <bfly2000> hey has anyone had a problem with their X server trying to be started with a -mir option?
[13:11] <bfly2000> where exactly is the line that runs the X server on boot?
[13:11] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: I think it has installed the driver correctly
[13:12] <zorael> Does anyone know of a software tp cable tester, preferably in the repos?
[13:12] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : but the DTS sign is gone on my amplifier
[13:13] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: also the o/p of audio is not good as it was earlier
[13:13] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: ever since I installed latest ver of Ubuntu 12
[13:15] <A1Recon> VLC is not working properly. I cannot see the seek bar and the other functions and not even the "File Edit View Tools" on the top..... Any suggestions??
[13:15] <ehhh> hey guys, i just rebooted my computer and i end up on a error thing with the title "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get into ubuntu again
[13:15] <meowlulzcat> computer says no
[13:15] <histo> benedikt: I believe that's hardcoded into udisks2 I don't think you can change it
[13:15] <bfly2000> @ehhh same with me
[13:15] <bfly2000> its because X server is being run with -mir, which is unrecognized
[13:15] <ehhh> do you know a solution?
[13:16] <bfly2000> but im not sure where the actual line is in the boot files, so idk how to fix it
[13:16] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_:  what is gone wrong ???
[13:16] <histo> BluesKaj_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:16] <bfly2000> check your lightdm log, i get it will say something about -mir
[13:16] <bfly2000> 13.04
[13:16] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo,have you just updated/upgraded?
[13:16] <ehhh> it's ridiculous i get the option to reconfigure the graphics, troubleshoot and run in low-graphics mode and none of it works :/
[13:17] <bfly2000> yeah its because the problem is X server never gets to start
[13:17] <ehhh> can i launch the x server manually in the terminal?
[13:17] <reisio> yes
[13:17] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: nope it is been a while I upgraded , I only changed the unity front interface to gnome
[13:17] <bfly2000> does anybody know where the actual X server command is run during boot?
[13:17] <jrib> bfly2000: why?
[13:18] <bfly2000> because i need to find out where the -mir option is being added
[13:18] <bfly2000> idk how else to fix the problem :/
[13:18] <jrib> bfly2000: what ubuntu version?
[13:18] <bfly2000> 13.04
[13:18] <ehhh> reisio : how? (if you replied to me)
[13:18] <c3f59> eeeh: usually with startx
[13:18] <ehhh> lets see
[13:19] <reisio> ehhh: you don't have a login manager running?
[13:19] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : earlier I use to get the DTS sign on my amplifier since I hv connected the sound card thru TOSLINK fiber cable
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, were you using the onboar4d or the usb card ?
[13:19] <jrib> bfly2000: since you installed, has your X ever worked?
[13:19] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : for better sound receiption
[13:19] <ehhh> reisio: everything was working fine but i put my computer in suspend yesterday then i woke it today and the background was messed up, then i rebooted and ended up with this error screen
[13:19] <bfly2000> yes, i didnt do any changes other htan a standard ubuntu update
[13:19] <bfly2000> and then a restart
[13:20] <bfly2000> its been working fine for months
[13:20] <jrib> bfly2000: you don't have any PPAs, third-party repositories, or repositories not meant for 13.04?
[13:20] <bfly2000> i doubt it
[13:20] <jrib> bfly2000: check?
[13:20] <bfly2000> how?
[13:20] <bfly2000> is there an autmated way?
[13:21] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: also I wanted my amp to be connected to the PC so that I can play all format of audio and video
[13:21] <jrib> bfly2000: also, can you pastebin the lighdm log you were referencing before?  You can pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update » though that won't show any repositories you used to have enabled that you no longer do
[13:21] <reisio> ehhh: which error screen?
[13:21] <ehhh> reisio: a window saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode"
[13:22] <reisio> ehhh: sure you hadn't just updated the software somehow?
[13:22] <bfly2000> @jrib heres the lightdm log http://pastebin.com/npueNkva
[13:22] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: do you think there is some problem with the driver that is currently on my PC
[13:22] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, yes i'm, aware of that , youare using a usb outboard audio sound card with optical digital output , correct ?
[13:22] <bfly2000> line 28 is the notable one
[13:23] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: perfect
[13:23] <jrib> bfly2000: apt-cache policy lightdm
[13:23] <ehhh> reisio: yes i'm sure, i didn't mess with the drivers at all since i'm running 12.04 because if i try to upgrade the graphics won't work at all
[13:23] <histo> ehhh: which graphics card do you have?
[13:23] <ehhh> histo: nvidia
[13:23] <bfly2000> lightdm:
[13:23] <bfly2000>   Installed: 1.7.3bzr1630raring0.75
[13:23] <bfly2000>   Candidate: 1.7.3bzr1630raring0.75
[13:23] <bfly2000>   Version table:
[13:23] <bfly2000>  *** 1.7.3bzr1630raring0.75 0
[13:23] <FloodBot1> bfly2000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <bfly2000>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mir-team/staging/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[13:24] <jrib> bfly2000: there you go.  This is not from 13.04 repositories
[13:24] <histo> !nvidia | ehhh
[13:25] <bfly2000> yeah weird, is there an easy way to revert?
[13:25] <jrib> bfly2000: this is something you enabled, it shouldn't be weird.  You can try to downgrade but it may not work
[13:25] <jrib> !ppa-purge | bfly2000
[13:27] <histo> bfly2000: and this is why ppa's aren't supported
[13:27] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, try this , sudo gstreamer-properties, a GUI will open. After configuring a reboot may be in order
[13:28] <bfly2000> thanks @rambo and @histo
[13:28] <bfly2000> thanks @jrib and @histo
[13:28] <lemmy> MonkeyDust: Thx for your help. It was caused by dropbear who configured networking as part of initramfs to support remotely unlocking encrypted disks.
[13:29] <Ramsrambo> BluesKay_: the plugin is autodetect change it to waht
[13:29] <apm1> with the changed support schedule will the 14.04 release still be a 5 year LTS and is expected in april 2014 ?
[13:30] <apm1> when i say "changed support schedule" i am referring to the 8 month support cycles for non lts ones
[13:30] <blazemore> apm1: Yes and yes according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[13:30] <apm1> ok thanks :)
[13:31] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, what are your options
[13:32] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_ : let me experiment with it and come back here latter
[13:38] <bfly2000> @jrib after remove and updating, the upgrade had staged some lightdm changes, but then i removed the xorg-edgers ppa (which i had installed to see if it would fix the previous problem) and after the update, all the staged changes were gone, is there any way to force them now that ive removed the ppa's ?
[13:39] <jrib> bfly2000: what do you mean by "remove"?
[13:39] <bfly2000> through the software center
[13:39] <jrib> bfly2000: you did not use ppa-purge?
[13:39] <bfly2000> @jrib, i thought it was the same thing, and that software center was a frontend
[13:40] <bfly2000> @jrib should i just re-add them? and then ppa-purge?
[13:40] <liquidstone> when i try to install wine i get this:
[13:40] <liquidstone> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[13:40] <liquidstone> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[13:40] <liquidstone> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[13:40] <liquidstone> or been moved out of Incoming.
[13:40] <liquidstone> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[13:40] <FloodBot1> liquidstone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <hje841> how do I install a g77 fortran compiler in ubuntu 12.04?
[13:40] <jrib> bfly2000: it's not.  Removing a ppa in software center will just make its packages no longer available but it won't try to downgrade if you have already installed things from it.  And the ppa responsible for lightdm was the mir one (though maybe you want to remove xorg-edgers too)
[13:41] <liquidstone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801503/
[13:41] <bfly2000> so to rectify, i should re-add them as ppa's and hten purge?
[13:41] <jrib> liquidstone: you need to give full input and full output.  Then describe what you are trying to do when you link to it
[13:41] <jrib> bfly2000: yes
[13:41] <Agent86> hi people
[13:42] <liquidstone> jrib: i tried to install wine
[13:42] <jrib> bfly2000: keep in mind downgrading isn't supported, so be prepared if things go horribly wrong...
[13:42] <liquidstone> and i got this
[13:42] <jrib> liquidstone: you need to give full input and full output in your pastebin
[13:43] <Agent86> quick question about bash scripts that call a python script
[13:43] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/g1fy8thF
[13:43] <Agent86> my script calls the python script when running it manually, but when I create a .destkop item and call either the bash or the python script it stops at the python parts when executed
[13:44] <jrib> liquidstone: output of « uname -m; dpkg --print-foreign-architectures »
[13:44] <liquidstone> uname: x86_64
[13:44] <jrib> Agent86: i suggest pastebinning the actual files
[13:44] <Agent86> Ok
[13:45] <liquidstone> dpkg --print-foreign-architectures: i386
[13:45] <jrib> liquidstone: run « sudo apt-get update » and then pastebin (not in channel) the output of apt-cache policy wine1.6
[13:46] <Agent86> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2156836  Here is the forum post I posted about it with pastebin links to it also
[13:46] <Agent86> the first file is simple bash script with one line for the notify-send command
[13:47] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/CXfnRZyX
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[13:47] <jrib> liquidstone: « sudo apt-get install wine1.6 », pastebin output
[13:47] <Agent86> second line is call to python script.  and finally simply make a .desktop item so I can call the bash script when the device it plugged in
[13:48] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/vGSdRbMQ
[13:48] <Agent86> mostly direct and simple. The script runs,  but the python part does not. However I can manually run the script and the python part runs perfectly
[13:48] <jrib> liquidstone: have you tried giving the full path to usb_devices.py?
[13:49] <liquidstone> im not familiar with that
[13:49] <jrib> erm, wrong nick
[13:49] <jrib> Agent86: have you tried giving the full path to usb_devices.py?
[13:49] <Agent86> yes full path etc.
[13:50] <ehhh> ok this is getting ridiculous, i even tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but i just get "unable to fettch some archives" when i try that
[13:50] <Agent86> but it runs as it should if I type in the console bash usb-copy.sh
[13:50] <jrib> Agent86: you don't have full path in what you have pasted though
[13:50] <Snype> Myrtti, whatcha smoking buddy?
[13:50] <jrib> liquidstone: apt-cache policy wine1.6-i386
[13:50] <Agent86> true I don't have the full path there pasted. I'll edit it again but I did that a bunch of times with no effect. And it runs from the consol. wouldn't it have a problem running it manually if there was a problem with the path ?
[13:51] <Agent86> Just curious
[13:51] <Snype> but it is not the recommended way Agent86
[13:51] <Agent86> ok so maybe I have the full path wrong I'll repost it
[13:51] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/hHVU0ZuS
[13:51] <jrib> Agent86: not if when you run it in a console you happen to be in the correct directory
[13:51] <Snype> that would be best Agent86
[13:51] <jrib> Snype: stop or leave
[13:51] <Snype> stop what?
[13:51] <jrib> Snype: you know what.  No more warnings.
[13:52] <Snype> i dont get it
[13:52] <Agent86> but thats why i put the ls or pwd in there too so I could see the path it seemed ok
[13:52] <Agent86> wut ? what happened ?
[13:52] <jrib> Agent86: hmm?
[13:53] <ehhh> i'm considering trying debian instead since ubuntu is just failing on me, it's probably the 20th time i just end up with nothing working, in two days . . .
[13:53] <jrib> liquidstone: what happens when you try to install wine1.6-i386 then? sudo apt-get install wine1.6-i386
[13:54] <Izual> Hey, I have just created some modules and would like to load them with insmod. I create a folder under /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/.. but ins mode cannot locate it
[13:54] <Agent86> jrib: so should I put the python command in front of the full path still ? or not? Also one last thing I tried to make the .desktop item execute a python script directly also and it did not run I have something wrong for sure
[13:54] <liquidstone> jrib: 1st http://pastebin.com/F2S2tDcx
[13:54] <Agent86> python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py   == full path ? ??
[13:55] <jrib> Agent86: you should run the command "python /full/path/to/usb_devices.py" from / in your shell.  Make sure it works there (presumably / is not the location of the file).  If that works, then use that command in your script
[13:55] <jrib> Agent86: yes
[13:55] <g0th> hi
[13:55] <jrib> liquidstone: what ubuntu version is this again?
[13:55] <Agent86> oh wait I should put quotes you think ?
[13:55] <g0th> when I try to mount a cifs share I get:
[13:55] <liquidstone> 13.04 64bit
[13:55] <g0th> mount error(95): Operation not supported
[13:55] <g0th> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[13:56] <jrib> Agent86: you shouldn't need any quotes
[13:56] <Agent86> ok
[13:56] <g0th> I didn't find anything useful in the man pages
[13:56] <g0th> what is error 95?
[13:56] <jrib> liquidstone: pastebin output of « sudo apt-get update »
[13:57] <jrib> !info libc6 raring
[13:58] <liquidstone> jrib: http://pastebin.com/ayFdQJuz
[13:59] <Agent86> well I don't know the full path it seems
[14:00] <Agent86> it's in the Documents folder and that is python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py
[14:00] <Agent86> I can go into the Documents folder and run python usb_devices.py
[14:00] <jrib> Agent86: so does that work ok when you run it from a shell?
[14:00] <Agent86> shell meaning consol not python interpreter right ?
[14:00] <jrib> Agent86: yes
[14:00] <Agent86> ok
[14:01] <Agent86> this path python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py does not run the script
[14:01] <Agent86> but that is the full path as far as I know
[14:01] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: I did changed it to Pulse from Alsa but still not able to get the DTS sign on my amp
[14:01] <jrib> Agent86: /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py exists?
[14:01] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, pavucontrol ?
[14:01] <Agent86> yes when I pwd from the consol I get /home/agent86
[14:02] <jrib> Agent86: what is the output you get when you try to run it with full path...?
[14:02] <Agent86> out says No such file or directory
[14:02] <h00k> jrib, Agent86: Not sure where you guys are at in the troubleshooting, but is usb_devices.py executable?
[14:02] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: I need this DTS b'cos I hv this Chakra meditation CD which produces some unique sounds
[14:02] <Agent86> yes executable thanks
[14:02] <jrib> Agent86: does /home/agent86/usb_devices.py exist perhaps?
[14:02] <Agent86> yes it exists
[14:03] <jrib> Agent86: so run "python /home/agent86/usb_devices.py"
[14:03] <Agent86> if I cd /Documents and run pyhon usb_devices.py it runs fine
[14:03] <jrib> Agent86: /Documents is not the same as ~/Documents
[14:03] <Agent86> or if I just go to the documents folder and click on it
[14:03] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, cat /proc/asound/modules , pastebin the output
[14:04] <Agent86> right ~/Documents
[14:04] <jrib> Agent86: either you have a lot of copies of this file all over the place or you are not explaining yourself very clearly
[14:04] <Agent86> one copy of the file located in the Documents folder default ubuntu Documents folder
[14:05] <jrib> liquidstone: what third-party repositories, PPAs, or packages outside the repositories have you enabled/installed
[14:05] <ehhh> i keep getting an error screen saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get past that screen and get into the ubuntu desktop . . does anyone know what to do ? i've got an nvidia card
[14:06] <liquidstone> jrib: i used swat-x repos for nvidia driver
[14:06] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_:  http://pastebin.com/NWzrwewM
[14:06] <Agent86> It runs it works just like all the other python scripts I wrote; and works inside my bash script when calling the python script and calling the bash script manually that calls the python script
[14:06] <jrib> Agent86: pastebin full input and output from « python /home/agent86/usb_devices.py »
[14:06] <jrib> h00k: it shouldn't matter in this case since he's calling python explicitly
[14:06] <Agent86> However, it does not run the python parts of the script when exectuted from the .desktop item and a removeable device is plugged in
[14:07] <Agent86> full output meaning consol output
[14:07] <jrib> Agent86: yes
[14:07] <ehhh> i've tried reinstalling nvidia-current, i tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but it won't fetch the packages
[14:07] <Agent86> cd
[14:07] <Agent86> oops
[14:07] <h00k> jrib: ah, ok.
[14:07] <g0th> ok solved it
[14:07] <Agent86> strange
[14:07] <Agent86> python /home/agent86/Documents/usb_devices.py
[14:07] <Agent86> devicenotfound.wav: No such file or directory
[14:07] <Agent86> Device Not Found or Has Been Removed
[14:07] <Agent86> applicationhalted.wav: No such file or directory
[14:08] <g0th> I had to add -o sec ntlm, everything else fails
[14:08] <FloodBot1> Agent86: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:08] <Agent86> oh crap sorry
[14:08] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: Yeah! I used pavucontrol
[14:08] <jrib> liquidstone: not really clear what's going on.  What's the output of  « apt-cache policy libasound2:i386 libc6:i386 »?
[14:09] <Agent86> http://bpaste.net/show/1rj8fvQHU8p04HJ1yUqz/
[14:09] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, ok , sudo modprobe  snd_usb_audio  , if there is no error or output that means the driver loaded properly
[14:09] <Agent86> i see it doesn't find my audio file for some reason
[14:10] <liquidstone> http://pastebin.com/fiRxVVJk
[14:10] <jrib> Agent86: either modify the script so it doesn't depend on the current directory being ~/Documents or modify your bash script to first change the working directory to ~/Documents before calling the python script
[14:10] <meowlulzcat> cat /super-secret-file/
[14:10] <Agent86> i'm confused it runs from within geany, and also manually from the Documents folder itself
[14:10] <meowlulzcat> shit
[14:10] <Mohamad_> hello i have ATI AMD 4350 HD video card and i am in ubuntu 13.04 using gnome shell, can i install any drivers ? or my card in not supported, thank u :)
[14:10] <blazemore> Agent86: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/918154/relative-paths-in-python
[14:10] <jrib> Agent86: because in both those cases your current directory is ~/Documents.  That's not the case when it gets called through udev
[14:11] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: there was no error and I am able to play the audio
[14:11] <Agent86> ok so would you say best to change the bash script to change the working directory first ?
[14:11] <jrib> Agent86: that's up to you
[14:11] <blazemore> Mohamad_: Here is a web page where someone has instructions on how to install the legacy driver http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[14:12] <blazemore> Mohamad_: The packages are not officially supported by Ubuntu, so use them at your own risk
[14:12] <ehhh> i'm getting really annoyed here :/
[14:12] <Ramsrambo> BluesKaj_: the DTS sign on my amp is not coming and also the audio is not that clear
[14:12] <Mohamad_> thank u very much
[14:13] <jrib> ehhh: I have no idea what your actual issue is; your recent comments just seem to be rants
[14:13] <blazemore> jrib: He is having problems with one of his repositories
[14:13] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, ok now we need make sure , add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf,   options snd_usb_audio index=0 , then you'll have to reboot
[14:14] <blazemore> I know what the answer is but I'm not telling him, on purpose
[14:14] <ehhh> blazemore: u ho :(
[14:14] <BluesKaj_> Ramsrambo, reboot is required for all the changes to work
[14:15] <jrib> liquidstone: do you happen to have aptitude installed?  (side question: can one search for broken packages through apt-get/apt-cache)?
[14:16] <ehhh> i keep getting an error screen saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get past that screen and get into the ubuntu desktop . . does anyone know what to do ? i've got an nvidia card
[14:17] <ToddMan> join /linuxmusicians
[14:17] <ToddMan> #join /linuxmusicians
[14:17] <Agent86> one thing I don't understand is that the actual script that runs with udev is bash scripted called usb-copy.sh which is also in the Documents folder
[14:18] <Agent86> so when I device it plugged in the script that runs is usb-copy.sh which is in the Documents folder and it runs perfectly up to the point where the python command starts
[14:18] <ehhh> everything was working fine untill i pulled rebooted my computer after pulling it out of suspend today
[14:19] <liquidstone> jrib: no
[14:19] <liquidstone> do i need to have it
[14:19] <jrib> liquidstone: ok, what's the output of « sudo apt-get install -f » (don't have it actually do anything, just paste the output).  You don't need aptitude, I just don't know how to search for broken packages outside of using aptitude
[14:20] <huttan> jrib: whats the command to do it with aptitude ?
[14:20] <liquidstone> jrib: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:20] <jrib> huttan: aptitude search '~b' (maybe; I would have to check the manual to see if it's ~b or something else but I know it exists)
[14:21] <huttan> jrib: thank you
[14:21] <ehhh> also apt-get is failing at fetching files, can i change to an international place to fetch the files where it's more likely to get the files`?
[14:21] <liquidstone> jrib: im installing aptitude
[14:21] <liquidstone> how to check broken packages with aptitude
[14:22] <jrib> liquidstone: ok, but I believe apt-get install -f would tell you if there were broken packages (and try to fix them)
[14:22] <marawan2> hello
[14:22] <jrib> liquidstone: aptitude search '~b'
[14:22] <marawan2> how does this work
[14:22] <marawan2> i don't get it

[14:22] <reisio> marawan2: what?
[14:22] <marawan2> hello
[14:23] <marawan2> please tell me how this work
[14:23] <jrib> marawan2: this is the ubuntu support channel.  If you have a support question, ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they will reply
[14:23] <marawan2> so this is not random chatting
[14:23] <jrib> !ot | marawan2
[14:24] <liquidstone> no working
[14:25] <ToddMan> I'm hoping someone can help me setup a USB interface (no one is in linuxmusicians).  When I plug it in alsa seems to recognize the midi part of my ALESIS io2 express but not the headphone jack or the guitar inputs
[14:25] <jrib> liquidstone: you get no output?
[14:25] <marawan2> but i am using Lubuntu not Ubuntu
[14:25] <ehhh> i'm trying to install ppa-purge but i just get "failed to fetch http***************" and "E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix missing", i tried the suggestions to no avail
[14:25] <liquidstone> jrib: how to use with specific package?
[14:25] <jrib> liquidstone: it doesn't work this way
[14:26] <mhr> sed "1d;3d;4d;7d;8d" fileold > filenew deletes all lines in fileold and redirects to filenew. I want to delete those lines in fileold which are not in the list in the given command. what is the option i use?
[14:26] <Pici> mhr: use -i for inline editing.
[14:26] <jrib> mhr: print only the lines in the list
[14:26] <marawan2> Linux is so complocated
[14:27] <marawan2> complicated
[14:27] <liquidstone> i tried with software center same
[14:27] <marawan2> like all the KDE And XDE GNU and all of those abriviations i don't understand
[14:28] <GunArm> i can't believe, from the googling i'm doing, it seems there is NO way to translate ata1 to /dev/sdX, even though nasty errors are spewing about ata1 in dmesg
[14:28] <jrib> liquidstone: since you did install aptitude, what did happen when you ran the command I gave?
[14:28] <marawan2> cls
[14:28] <marawan2> clear
[14:28] <marawan2> doesn't work
[14:28] <Pici> marawan2: What are you trying to do?
[14:28] <willybilly0101> marawan2: RTFM it's allways easy to understand
[14:28] <liquidstone> jrib: it gave me manual how to use it
[14:28] <mhr> Pici, its a long file with thousands of lines
[14:29] <ToddMan> I'm hoping someone can help me setup a USB soundcard
[14:29] <jrib> liquidstone: what did you input?
[14:29] <liquidstone> just i dont know how to use it
[14:29] <marawan2> willybill0101: i don't know
[14:29] <stomanata> Hi, i perform  updatedb, but locate ****** may be search only on partition that is my linux :(   not at all partitions
[14:29] <liquidstone> aptitude search '~b'
[14:29] <marawan2> i am new here
[14:29] <jrib> liquidstone: you copied that from your terminal that you tried it on?
[14:30] <liquidstone> yes
[14:30] <mhr> jrib, I dint get you correctly, can you explain some more
[14:30] <willybilly0101> new where? on the internet?
[14:30] <marawan2> no to linux system
[14:30] <liquidstone> im trying to open software and updates from sys settings
[14:30] <liquidstone> i cant
[14:30] <marawan2> i used to run windows XP
[14:30] <liquidstone> i want to remove that swat repo
[14:30] <jrib> mhr: sed -n '1p;3p;4p;7p;8p' If I understood your question correctyl.
[14:31] <willybilly0101> marawan2: try reading about it. all distribution have a wiki
[14:31] <SuperLag> How do I remove *all* traces of the nvidia drivers on my system, so that I can start from scratch with something in the repos?
[14:31] <gueney> Hey guys, how secure is it to sudo a bash script that has an "exec" in it? I am trying to write a wrapper script and am now worried someone might "hijack" the script
[14:32] <reisio> marawan2: how it works is if you need help with something, you say what you need help with here
[14:32] <reisio> gueney: exactly as secure as write access to the bash script is
[14:32] <SuperLag> stomanata: that is correct. It will only index your Linux partitions.
[14:32] <marawan2> lubuntu, the one i am using has very few info on the web
[14:32] <reisio> marawan2: what info are you interested in?
[14:33] <marawan2> willybilly0101: lubuntu, the one i am using has very few info on the web
[14:33] <Agent86> sounds like I should change the python script and do away with the bash script all together thanks people
[14:33] <gueney> reisio: Is it possible to somehow inject a custom command to the exec during runtime?
[14:33] <jrib> liquidstone: if you work through http://pastebin.com/F2S2tDcx, and try to install the dependencies it's failing on one by one, you'll likely eventually figure out the root cause.
[14:33] <willybilly0101> what is your actual problem?
[14:33] <stomanata> but other is also linux partition
[14:33] <stomanata> but it doesn`t search on it
[14:33] <reisio> gueney: the exec?
[14:34] <reisio> gueney: you can specify the sh interpreter in your sudo command, too, if you prefer
[14:34] <marawan2> ok guys, my question is what is the difference between the linux distros
[14:34] <marawan2> espicially the ubuntu and xubuntu and lubuntu and kubunut
[14:34] <reisio> marawan2: mostly the approach to package management, the philosophy, and the community
[14:35] <marawan2> easy there
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: between ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, and kubuntu, only the preinstalled desktop environment
[14:35] <gueney> reisio: Yeah, I got an exec /usr/sbin/blah command in there, and am wondering if one could somehow alter the line during runtime and like run a root shell or something crazy lo
[14:35] <willybilly0101> marawan2: DE
[14:35] <marawan2> what is a package managment
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: GNOME + Unity, Xfce, LXDE, and KDE, respectively
[14:35] <willybilly0101> marawan2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_management_system
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: package management is the management (installation, removal, maintenance) of applications
[14:35] <reisio> aka packages
[14:35] <marawan2> which is the best?
[14:35] <reisio> marawan2: that's subjective
[14:36] <reisio> marawan2: try them and find out which you prefer
[14:36] <marawan2> reisio: so there is no best?
[14:37] <marawan2>  reisio: is it based on taste?
[14:37] <auronandace> marawan2: there may be a best for you, but thats up to you
[14:37] <reisio> marawan2: you would have to have an explicit rubric to measure best logically
[14:37] <noiro> how do I go about the process of finding wireless card and installing proper drivers in Ubuntu LTS?
[14:37] <reisio> just "best" is subjective :)
[14:37] <willybilly0101> make & rm are the best
[14:37] <mhr> jrib, sed -n dint work, I want to delete those lines which are not in '1p;3p;4p;7p;8p'. Means I just want lines 1,3,4,7,8 in the filenew
[14:37] <reisio> it's possible one is the "best at promoting efficiency in an office environment", but you would have to do a scientific study to prove it
[14:38] <marawan2> reisio: so what should the choice be based on. like envirnoment, package mangment and system requirments?
[14:38] <reisio> marawan2: all Ubuntu versions use the same package management
[14:38] <reisio> marawan2: they have only different preinstalled desktop environments
[14:38] <reisio> marawan2: some are more appropriate for very old hardware than others
[14:38] <mhr> jrib, sorry I think i gave d instead of p in my command with option -n, let me try it again
[14:39] <reisio> some are also more appropriate for certain types of persons :)
[14:39] <marawan2> reisio: ya, thats why ubuntu didn't work for me. My laptop is old
[14:39] <marawan2> like really old
[14:40] <willybilly0101> marawan2: try Windows 3.11
[14:40] <reisio> marawan2: if you're using lubuntu, it should probably be okay
[14:40] <reisio> although you can get into trouble installing more packages than come with it by default
[14:40] <marawan2> reisio: i am not going back to windows that is because i am putting linux to the test
[14:41] <reisio> was willybilly0101's suggestion
[14:41] <marawan2> oh
[14:41] <reisio> and really you're only putting Lubuntu to the test
[14:41] <marawan2> i am going to try xubuntu
[14:41] <SuperLag> What is the difference between nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates?
[14:41] <marawan2> they say is good for old laps
[14:42] <SuperLag> I'm trying to figure out which repo package I should be installing for my ThinkPad W530, for the Nvidia driver. This thing has a K1000M in it, for video.
[14:42] <reisio> marawan2: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[14:42] <reisio> marawan2: I doubt it will perform better than LXDE, though, if hardware is the issue
[14:42] <stomanata> Is there option to search on all my partitions with locate?
[14:42] <reisio> stomanata: if you updatedb first
[14:42] <reisio> stomanata: but find / might be better
[14:43] <reisio> find / -iname '*summin*here*'
[14:43] <marawan2> reisio: no, it is just that lubuntu has so much SYSTEM PROBLEM
[14:43] <reisio> marawan2: system problem?
[14:43] <mhr> jrib, thank you it worked
[14:43] <stomanata> thanks i`ll try with find :)
[14:43] <marawan2> reisio:  ya like lubuntu didected system problem, do you want to report it
[14:43] <stomanata> i run updatadb, but locate search only in my   /
[14:43] <marawan2> reisio: stuff like that
[14:46] <rosco_y> I'm using 13.04 and I want to experiment with LAMP.  I already have mysql 5.5 installed.  Would anyone recommend that I *not* run "sudo apt-get lamp-server^" as recommended at http://setupguides.blogspot.com/2013/04/install-lamp-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[14:46] <jordanrx123> hai? may I join your conversation? I introduce jordan andrean from ndonesia.
[14:47] <rosco_y> Hi jordanrx123, how are you doing?
[14:47] <rosco_y> Every thing is very open here.
[14:47] <rosco_y> (although I'm not an administrator here--this is just my opinion)
[14:48] <jordanrx123> i'am fine , where are you rosco ?
[14:48] <rosco_y> I have found everyone to be quite friendly
[14:48] <Duality> hey all
[14:48] <rosco_y> I'm in Michigan, of the US
[14:48] <Duality> can't seem to log into lubuntu could someone help me? when i try to log in it just puts me back to the login screen
[14:48] <rosco_y> Duality: :) how's it going?
[14:49] <Duality> good thanks :)
[14:49] <Duality> you ?
[14:49] <rosco_y> I've been doing better, but I'm getting over it now.  You have the right password?
[14:49] <jordanrx123> I am pleased to meet with you, may I play to where you are in America?
[14:50] <rosco_y> jordanrx123: I'm not sure what you mean: "may I play to where you are"
[14:51] <Duality> yes i got the right password then it would say incorrect password, please try again, also the screen goes black for just a moment and then I am back at the login screen
[14:51] <rosco_y> Duality: where are you logged into now?
[14:51] <marawan2> sorry guys i went to pee
[14:51] <rosco_y> ah
[14:51] <rosco_y> marawan2: no harm done, I suppose :)
[14:51] <jordanrx123> I can speak a little English so it was not so perfect. I want to play to your home in America.
[14:51] <Duality> rosco_y: my laptop, this is happening on my main pc :)
[14:51] <marawan2> rosco_y: hahaha
[14:51] <noiro> hey guys, I installed the b43-fwcutter driver and though I installed and rebooted, wireless is not being detected or showing up in additional drivers. I'm running a 4311 broadcom card
[14:52] <rosco_y> jordanrx123: your english is very good
[14:52] <rosco_y> Duality: can you log into a root shell?
[14:52] <marawan2> me english fery good good too
[14:52] <jordanrx123> thank you rosco :)
[14:52] <Duality> before this it would put me at the terminal/command prompt login and not start at all, then reinstalled Nvidia driver and got the login screen back
[14:52] <litropy> My NIC disconnects from my network, then the network disappears from my list. I can still see and attempt to connect to other networks, but my network isn't listed; same for nmcli con list. I have a AR9285 using ath9k
[14:52] <rosco_y> marawan2: I too am very fluent in typo
[14:53] <litropy> power management is off.
[14:53] <Duality> yes i am in a shell now :)
[14:53] <bazhang> !ot | marawan2
[14:53] <marawan2> rosco_y: lol
[14:53] <litropy> it happens no matter what nohwcrypt is doing.
[14:54] <litropy> dmesg says thing like failed to wake up and chip reset failed.
[14:54] <rosco_y> Duality: try CTL+ALT+F2 {F3, F4, F5 etc.}, you should be transfered to a text-mode login where you'd get more feedback.
[14:55] <rosco_y> then you could drop into su mode and check your config files and what not.
[14:55] <Duality> rosco_y: yes i am currently loged into f1
[14:55] <Voting> How do I find out the px width and hight of my laptop monitor?
[14:55] <marawan2> Does any one know some good Blender tutorials
[14:55] <tacomaster> I was trying to find out what software has Unsupported updates enabled is there a command to find this out?
[14:55] <bazhang> marawan2, #blender
[14:55] <noiro> hey guys, I installed the b43-fwcutter driver and though I installed and rebooted, wireless is not being detected or showing up in additional drivers. I'm running a 4311 broadcom card
[14:56] <rosco_y> Duality: unfortunately we are quickly arriving at the peak of my technical inneptitude....
[14:57] <Duality> rosco_y: ok :)
[14:57] <Voting> How do I find out the pixel width and hight of my laptop monitor?
[14:57] <rosco_y> Duality: have you dug around int /etc/X11 ? I'd wonder if something needed to be tweaked in that area
[14:58] <rosco_y> Voting: sometimes the hardware gui tools give that information--maybe a google search would do the trick?
[14:58] <Duality> rosco_y: i tried startx then got some errors
[14:59] <Duality> one of em said something about xauthority
[14:59] <rosco_y> Duality: I"ve never had very good luck running startx from the command line either, I don't really understand that one
[15:00] <ak5> hey guys is the php package compiled --with-openssl ?
[15:00] <rosco_y> Duality: what version OS are you using?
[15:01] <rosco_y> ak5: great, I came here wondering about php too--are you using mysql as your server?
[15:01] <ehhh> i keep getting an error screen saying "the system is running in low-graphics mode" and i can't get past that screen and get into the ubuntu desktop . . does anyone know what to do ? i've tried everything i can find in google to no avail
[15:01] <reisio> ak5: php --info | grpe -i openssl
[15:01] <reisio> ak5: php --info | grep -i openssl
[15:01] <reisio> even
[15:01] <Voting> rosco_y: http://www.whatismyscreenresolution.com/ says 1366 x 768 but I'm not feeling very trusting of a website that is trying to figure it out remotely.
[15:02] <ak5> reisio: cool, do I need to also install the openssl package? I don't know much about php
[15:02] <ak5> rosco_y: yes
[15:02] <ak5> rosco_y: you mean database, I am assuming
[15:02] <reisio> ak5: dpkg -l | grep -i ssl
[15:02] <ak5> well cool
[15:02] <ak5> thanks a ton
[15:04] <ehhh> also xorg.conf doesn't exist, can this be the problem?
[15:04] <reisio> ehhh: it can be, but likely is not
[15:05] <ehhh> reisio: yeah i think there's something wrong with the driver but i won't  say for sure since it was running fine untill now . .
[15:05] <rosco_y> Voting: how are you setting your resolution now?
[15:05] <ehhh> i've tried reinstalling the drivers and everything, also tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop but it just fails to fetch the packages
[15:06] <rosco_y> ak5: ty, yes.  I was just thinking I might give php a try, and so was thinking of installing via "apt-get install lamp-server^", but I've already got mysql 5.5 installed, so I wasn't sure that was a good idea
[15:06] <rosco_y> would you happen to have an opinion on that?
[15:07] <singingwolfboy> I'm using Xubuntu in a virtual machine via VMware. I can use ctrl-C/ctrl-V to copy/paste between most windows in Xubuntu, but not in the Terminal. I can right-click and select Paste and it works, but I can't use ctrl-V. Anyone know how to fix it so I can paste with ctrl-V in the Terminal application in Xubuntu?
[15:07] <reisio> singingwolfboy: ctrl+shift+v
[15:07] <rosco_y> singingwolfboy: I think that's a terminal limitation--which terminal software are you using?
[15:07] <noiro> Can someone help me with a b43 driver? I can install it, but it doesn't seem to show up in additional drivers so I can't activate it. Once installed, how do I set it as active?
[15:07] <reisio> singingwolfboy: you can change it to just ctrl+ instead of ctrl+shift+, but it's not 100% unproblematic, as CTRL+c, for example, is a standard shortcut you might need
[15:07] <ehhh> should i try to install the noveau driver?
[15:08] <reisio> ehhh: you could
[15:08] <singingwolfboy> rosco_y: whatever the default terminal is in Xubuntu
[15:08] <rosco_y> I've used konsole in the past, and ctl+v didn't work there, now I'm really fond of guake (try it out if you can), guake supports ctl+v
[15:08] <noiro> sudo modprobe 43 just makes the terminal freeze up
[15:08] <rosco_y> not sure about xterm, which might be the default for you.....
[15:09] <Duality> rosco_y: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[15:09] <Ari-Yang> ctrl+p to paste something in terminal? I use ctrl+shift+p
[15:09] <singingwolfboy> looks like control-shift-V works
[15:09] <ak5> rosco_y: just go for it, does the lamp-server^ meta-package pull in a different version??
[15:09] <rosco_y> ak5: I'm thinking along the same lines.
[15:09] <singingwolfboy> it would be awesome if I could use command-V on my keyboard -- as I said, I'm using Xubuntu as a VM via VMware, and my host OS is Mac
[15:10] <ak5> rosco_y: unless you installed mysql manually it didn't
[15:10] <ak5> rosco_y: so did you?
[15:10] <rosco_y> I installed mysql manually--I've been playing around with it for awhile now
[15:10] <ak5> I see
[15:11] <ak5> rosco_y: by manually, do you mean via "apt-get install mysql"?
[15:11] <rosco_y> I wouldn't lose anything important if it somehow got lost, so I could just go for it
[15:11] <rosco_y> ak5: yes,
[15:11] <ak5> rosco_y: you are fine then, please go ahad
[15:11] <ak5> ahead*
[15:11] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any text-to-speech program smarter than orca in ubuntu? I want something to read pdf files for example.
[15:11] <rosco_y> ak5: Thank you:)
[15:12] <ak5> rosco_y: yw
[15:13] <rosco_y> singingwolfboy: can you use ctl+v within your terminal software (cut and paste from within the terminal, back into the same terminal?
[15:14] <Duality> rosco_y: normaly i can paste in terminal by using ctrl-shift-v
[15:14] <ehhh> ok so i tried to install "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" and i get this message: "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming."
[15:15] <litropy> What would make networkmanager unlist a network after an unexpected disconnect?
[15:16] <blazemore> ehhh: Could you paste the full output of "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" to http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel?
[15:16] <rosco_y> Duality: :) I was asking singingwolfboy that question because he was trying to use ctl+v from a terminal in VirtualBox to a tool in the host environment, if I am understanding correctly
[15:17] <blazemore> singingwolfboy: shift-insert works on a lot of platforms too!
[15:17] <rosco_y> :) I'm gonna bail out... maybe catch you all later--have a good one everybody.....
[15:17] <Duality> ok anyway rosco_y i fixed my issue by remove .Xauthority from my home directory
[15:17] <ehhh> blazemore: alright though i'll have to write it all in . .
[15:18] <blazemore> ehhh: are you only on a TTY?
[15:18] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there any text-to-speech program smarter than orca in ubuntu? I want something to read pdf files for example. Also I have installed Gufw; Incoming and outgoing traffic are set to allow. Does it protect my system, or should I define some rules and manage traffic?
[15:18] <clue_h> i'd set incoming to deny mojtaba
[15:18] <DylanCl> Hello. Rythmbox doesn't play some of my MP3s, and I was wondering why and how I could fix it. Anybody that has experienced this and found the answer to it? Or anybody that aleast wants to try and help me?
[15:18] <ehhh> blazemore: what does TTY mean? i'm using windows on this laptop i'm on irc with and i'm trying to get ubuntu running properly on a stationary computer connected to my tv-screen
[15:18] <BAMbanda> how do I get rid of unity and replace it with something different?
[15:18] <reisio> mojtaba: orca isn't a text to speech, is it it? It's a screen reader
[15:19] <blazemore> ehhh "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 2&>/tmp/apt_error_message"
[15:19] <reisio> reading the screen is doing it wrong from the start
[15:19] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_speech_synthesis_software
[15:19] <blazemore> ehhh: then the error will be in the file /tmp/apt_error_message - find a way of getting it to me :)
[15:19] <mojtaba> clue_h: how come?
[15:20] <clue_h> mojtaba, it's recommended because only ip traffic initiated from you is allowed, but then unsolicited inbound will default to deny
[15:20] <MonkeyDu1t> BAMbanda  install other DE, logout, change, login
[15:20] <mojtaba> reisio: Do you know which one is better?
[15:20] <DylanCl> Is there a music player that supports all the files? (Mp3, .m4a,..)
[15:20] <reisio> mojtaba: I forget
[15:20] <reisio> DylanCl: mplayer
[15:20] <reisio> DylanCl: vlc does pretty well, too
[15:20] <BAMbanda> MonkeyDult, will I be able to switch back and and forth at the login screen?
[15:21] <DylanCl> Well
[15:21] <reisio> gnome-mplayer if you want a UI
[15:21] <noiro> Can someone help me with wireless drivers?
[15:21] <DylanCl> I tried vlc, reisio, but half of my songs didn't work
[15:21] <DylanCl> And with rythmbox it just says 'Not Playing'
[15:21] <reisio> DylanCl: gnome-mplayer then
[15:21] <MonkeyDu1t> BAMbanda  yes, click on the gnome sign (or was it ubuntu sign) in the lightdm menu
[15:21] <reisio> DylanCl: either that or you need to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:21] <mojtaba> clue_h: what if I set both to deny?
[15:22] <BAMbanda> MonkeyDult thanks
[15:22] <clue_h> mojtaba, that will only work if you have defined a previous set of rules allowing certain port ranges out
[15:23] <clue_h> mojtaba, those would be for example 53 udp, 80 tcp, and 443 ssl
[15:23] <clue_h> that's all i allow out atm apart from 6697 tcp for irc
[15:23] <saiarcot895> mojtaba: otherwise, I think you won't be able to access anything outside your computer
[15:23] <DylanCl> reisio: how do I install mplayer?
[15:24] <reisio> DylanCl: search software center for gnome-mplayer
[15:24] <reisio> DylanCl: or sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer
[15:24] <blazemore> DylanCl: I'll give a +1 to vlc, it plays EVERYTHING
[15:24] <MonkeyDu1t> !info mplayer
[15:24] <DylanCl> blazemore: No it doesn't
[15:25] <mojtaba> clue_h: Thank you very much. How can I find what program is using what port?
[15:25] <DylanCl> it doesn't play most of my music
[15:25] <th0r> noiro, if you state the problem, someone may have a solution
[15:25] <blazemore> DylanCl: Well, I've yet to find anything it hasn't played
[15:25] <reisio> mplayer does better IME, but I think his problem is something else
[15:25] <blazemore> DylanCl: In what format is most of your music?
[15:25] <DylanCl> mp3 and m4a
[15:25] <blazemore> DylanCl: vlc definitely plays mp3... what error does it give you?
[15:25] <mojtaba> reisio: Do you know which one is better?
[15:25] <DylanCl> It doesn't give me an  error and that's what bugging me
[15:26] <DylanCl> neither does rythmbox, it just says 'Not playing'
[15:26] <clue_h> mojtaba, there are a series of commands for looking and what is connecting to what, i use one that suits my needs which is 'ss -apr' but i know there are better ones
[15:26] <blazemore> DylanCl: I mean if you run it from the command-line
[15:26] <DylanCl> How should I do that?
[15:26] <th0r> DylanCl, is the m4a itunes music?
[15:26] <reisio> mojtaba: nope, I do'nt follow that so much
[15:26] <reisio> mojtaba: but there are only a few, literally, try them
[15:26] <DylanCl> th0r: I have no clue. A friend sent them to me trough skype
[15:26] <mojtaba> clue_h: I learned something. Thank you
[15:26] <blazemore> DylanCl: Open a terminal and type "vlc" then press Enter
[15:26] <mojtaba> reisio: thaks
[15:27] <noiro> th0r: I have, many times. I have installed the b43 driver via commandline and GUI (tried uninstall and reinstall), rebooted, Additional drivers does not show the option to activate the card. Network devices still gives no wireless internet option
[15:27] <DylanCl> 2 seconds, have to redownload vlc
[15:27] <blazemore> DylanCl: Then, after trying to play your music, copy and paste all the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com - one of those messages will be helpful to me or to someone else in here I'm sure
[15:27] <ehhh> blazemore: there's not that much more than what i wrote earlier so i just typed it out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801791/ is it telling me to install the stuff that's behind the "Depends:" part instead`?
[15:27] <blazemore> ehhh: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:27] <th0r> noiro, have you installed the firmware? I think you need the b43-fwcutter and another file
[15:27] <blazemore> ehhh: Run that command on its own
[15:28] <danart82> !list
[15:28] <noiro> th0r: firmware-b43-fwcutter and b43-fwcutter?
[15:28] <blazemore> ehhh: Allow it to install any packages it wants
[15:28] <th0r> noiro, yeah...that sounds like it
[15:28] <noiro> I installed that
[15:28] <th0r> noiro, in a terminal type 'lsmod | grep b43' and see if the b43 module is loaded
[15:29] <argoneus> Hello
[15:29] <argoneus> is Ubuntu a rolling distro? I mean, how -new- software does the repo have?
[15:29] <reisio> argoneus: it's not rolling release, no
[15:29] <mojtaba> clue_h: The last question, Does the firewall work if I close it?
[15:29] <ehhh> blazemore: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[15:30] <DylanCl> blazemore: how do I play a song?
[15:30] <reisio> argoneus: but you can get almost as new software as you like, with a sacrifice of stability
[15:30] <DylanCl> just type play (song)?
[15:30] <argoneus> reisio: from the official repos?
[15:30] <noiro> th0r, nothing was returned upon entering that command
[15:30] <reisio> argoneus: yes, frequently
[15:30] <argoneus> oh, nice
[15:30] <th0r> noiro, in the terminal type
[15:30] <clue_h> mojtaba, yes it does, but you could check by typing ufw status, under sudo
[15:30] <mojtaba> clue_h: thanks again
[15:31] <th0r> noiro, (oops) type ' modprobe b43' and see if it brings the wireless to life. Then type 'ifconfig' and see if you have a wlan0 or eth2 or some such
[15:31] <wj> java
[15:31] <DJones> argoneus: Although its not a rolling release, versions are released every 6 months and only supported for 9 months, so the software shouldn't get too far behind
[15:31] <ehhh> blazemore: so i don't think it did anything, i think i also tried that command a bit earlier
[15:31] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: does a VLC window open up?
[15:31] <ehhh> blazemore: with the same results
[15:31] <DylanCl> saiarcot895: no
[15:31] <reisio> wj: twss
[15:32] <DylanCl> it did give me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801796/
[15:32] <noiro> th0r, modprobe freezes terminal, it just sits there and blinks
[15:32] <th0r> noiro, control-C should free it up.
[15:32] <th0r> noiro, that was 'modprobe b43' right? make sure there wasn't a typo
[15:33] <danart82> !list
[15:33] <th0r> noiro, also, try 'lsmod | grep wl' and see if that other driver is loaded
[15:33] <danart82> salve
[15:33] <noiro> It doesn't free up. And no, no typo. I entered: "sudo modprobe b43"
[15:33] <noiro> I'll just force-close it
[15:33] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: do you have vlc from the distro repo?
[15:33] <DylanCl> distro repo?
[15:34] <theseb> How make desktop icon automatically launch instead of ASKING what I want to do with the file?
[15:34] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: like, did you use Ubuntu Software Center or do "sudo apt-get install vlc"?
[15:34] <noiro> th0r, any solution
[15:34] <DylanCl> I did sudo apt-get install vlc
[15:34] <th0r> noiro, try 'lsmod | grep wl'...is the wl driver loaded?
[15:34] <ehhh> blazemore: i get "the following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: <bunch of language packs>. Use apt-get autoremove to remove them"
[15:35] <danart82> !list
[15:35] <ehhh> right above the 0 upgraded part
[15:35] <blazemore> ehhh: Don't worry about that second one. Try running "sudo apt-get update" first
[15:35] <bazhang> danart82, no warez here, stop that
[15:35] <DylanCl> Guess I had to download it from the market thingy? :P
[15:35] <MonkeyDu1t> theseb  try right click, properties, "always do this blah" or something similar
[15:35] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: try opening up VLC using the regular way
[15:35] <DJones> danart82: The bot will give the same answer no matter how many times you ask it, this channel (and the freenode network) doesn't host warez
[15:35] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: they're the same
[15:35] <noiro> th0r, what is it supposed to return?
[15:35] <DylanCl> well
[15:36] <MonkeyDu1t> danart82  try #listalians
[15:36] <blazemore> saiarcot895: The entire point was for him to open it in a terminal to see errors in playing his music files
[15:36] <DylanCl> I just installed vlc from the software centre
[15:36] <th0r> noiro, it might return a line with wl and a couple of numbers
[15:36] <DylanCl> then did vlc in terminal
[15:36] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: the Software Center is just a GUI frontend for using sudo apt-get
[15:36] <DylanCl> now it opened up
[15:36] <noiro> I got 3 lines returned. wl 302548
[15:36] <DylanCl> So
[15:36] <noiro> *3032548
[15:36] <DylanCl> Do I open up a file that doesn't work?
[15:36] <th0r> noiro, ok....try this....first line 'rmmod wl' second line 'modprobe b43
[15:37] <noiro> Module wl is in use
[15:37] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: yes
[15:37] <DylanCl> alright let me see
[15:37] <th0r> noiro, then the wifi card should be working. check 'ifconfig' and see if it is there
[15:37] <th0r> noiro, if you aren't sure, pastebin the result of ifconfig
[15:38] <noiro> all I see is eth0 and lo
[15:38] <th0r> noiro, are you by any chance using xubuntu?
[15:38] <noiro> I'm using the LTS with gnome-shell
[15:38] <DylanCl> saiarcot895: I opened up all my tracks, this is what it gave me
[15:38] <DylanCl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801831/
[15:39] <th0r> noiro, right click the network manager icon and make sure wireless is turned on
[15:39] <DylanCl> it just kept going to the next track, that idnd't work, next track, untill a track that did work
[15:39] <DylanCl> not sure if you're something with that
[15:39] <blazemore> DylanCl: [mp3 @ 0xb030e880] Header missing
[15:39] <noiro> th0r: wireless is not listed
[15:39] <blazemore> DylanCl: Can you play those files in *anything* ?
[15:39] <ehhh> blazemore: i get a bunch of errors saying "Err http://no.archive.ubuntu.com Release.gpg . Could not resolve 'no.archive.ubuntu.com" and below that "W: Failed to fetch http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'no.archive.ubuntu.com' " and then the bottom line is : "W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead" the two first repeating a bunch of ti
[15:39] <DylanCl> Nope
[15:39] <DylanCl> Well, not in the programs I tried
[15:39] <th0r> noiro, just a check....
[15:39] <blazemore> ehhh: Have you made any changes to your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[15:40] <DylanCl> Could it be because they came from an USB
[15:40] <th0r> noiro, (need to move that darn return key <smile>.) just a check, 'sudo rmmod wl' refuses to work, right?
[15:40] <blazemore> They look broken
[15:40] <noiro> th0r: yes, it says wl is in use
[15:40] <blazemore> ehhh: What version of Ubuntu are you running, also?
[15:40] <DylanCl> And is there a way to fix them?
[15:41] <ehhh> blazemore: no i don't think so. . i was running 12.04 with no problems untill i pulled it out of suspend earlier today, then i got to the desktop and the background was messed up so i rebooted and then i ended up on the low-graphics mode error
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: No, re-obtain them from your friend on Skype
[15:41] <DylanCl> that's going to take ages since a lot of them don't work
[15:41] <noiro> th0r: yes, it says wl is in use
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: OK
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: Shame
[15:41] <DylanCl> Hmm
[15:41] <th0r> noiro, does it show wlan0 or some such?
[15:41] <blazemore> DylanCl: You said they came from USB?
[15:41] <noiro> in ifconfig? No
[15:41] <DylanCl> I'm goign to try to upload them to mediafire/megaupload (the one that isn't broken) and download them from there
[15:41] <DylanCl> and yeah
[15:42] <blazemore> DylanCl: ...that won't make a difference don't waste your time. garbage in, garbage out
[15:42] <DylanCl> Well
[15:42] <DylanCl> On windows they worked
[15:42] <DylanCl> but suddenly on ubuntu they break lol
[15:42] <blazemore> DylanCl: That changes things
[15:42] <blazemore> DylanCl: I was under the impression you'd never been able to play them
[15:42] <noiro> All network interfaces are eth0 and l
[15:42] <th0r> noiro, no...iWconfig
[15:43] <DylanCl> On windows media player they work just fine
[15:43] <noiro> iWconfig lists both lo and eth0 and says "No wireless extensions" by both
[15:43] <blazemore> DylanCl: Copy them across via USB again, but this time be sure to use Windows' "Eject" or "Safely Remove Harware" feature
[15:43] <DJones> DylanCl: This may help http://linuxpoison.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/detect-and-repair-problems-in-mp3-files.html Its an old post, but the app is still around
[15:43] <DylanCl> Alright, I'll try both of you guys' solutions
[15:43] <Spr1ng> How do you install SSL certs (intermediary CA bundle and host specific cert) in 12.04.2?
[15:43] <saiarcot895> DylanCl: are the file sizes around 4-10 MB, or is it shown in kB or less?
[15:44] <blazemore> Spr1ng: I'd recommend going to #ubuntu-server for those sorts of questions. Also, Google Is Your Friend for tutorials like that
[15:44] <blazemore> saiarcot895: nice one
[15:44] <Spr1ng> thx blazemore
[15:44] <DylanCl> Yeah, they are around 4-10 MB
[15:44] <th0r> noiro, then what I would do....blacklist wl, reboot, and try b43. I have installed several xubuntu and am now running debian. Have great luck with b43, but no lluck with the wl module. But someone else here might have a better idea
[15:45] <noiro> how would I blacklist wl?
[15:45] <th0r> noiro, let me check the exact file name
[15:45] <blazemore> ehhh: Do you know how to access the Grub menu before Ubuntu boots?
[15:46] <DylanCl> off-topic: I'm really liking Ubuntu 13.04
[15:46] <ehhh> blazemore: i tihnk the grub menu boots automatically before entering the os since i can choose between normal and recovery mode everytime i boot
[15:46] <DylanCl> A few crashes, but nothing terrible
[15:46] <ehhh> blazemore: otherwise holding shift should do  the trick (i think)
[15:46] <th0r> noiro, found an ubuntu how to...but first, try this command 'sudo modprobe -r wl'
[15:47] <blazemore> ehhh: Brilliant, so what I want you to do is to edit the file /etc/default/grub - are you comfortable doing that from the terminal? I can tell you more if not
[15:47] <noiro> th0r, looks like it cursor is just sitting there again
[15:47] <blazemore> ehhh: Find the line that says "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=" - there will be a list of things like "quiet" and stuff - at the end of them add the word "nomodeset" and save and quit the file, then reboot
[15:47] <bigtone> Resolution Switcher says its installed but I can't find it to change it, its too big
[15:47] <ehhh> blazemore: as long as i have proper instructions there shouldn't be a problem . .
[15:48] <blazemore> ehhh: run the command "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" to open the file in the nano text editor
[15:48] <DylanCl> DJones: It appears that the program is for ubuntu 9.10
[15:48] <th0r> noiro, then this will show you how to blacklist wl. It will prevent loading the module, so when you reboot we can try adding b43
[15:48] <DylanCl> And I'm running 13.04
[15:48] <th0r> noiro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624
[15:48] <blazemore> ehhh: Move around with the arrow keys. When you've finished making your changes, press Ctrl-O and then Enter to save, and then Ctrl-X to quit
[15:49] <blazemore> ehhh: Oh, almost forgot, after that but before you reboot, run "sudo update-grub"
[15:49] <ehhh> blazemore: ok i'll try the nomodeset, i tried that before i went ahead and clean installed ubuntu again because i lost video signal after i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 but it didn't help then . .
[15:49] <th0r> noiro, I should be here, but if not, you want to load the b43 module (modprobe b43) and if it brings up the wifi then add it to /etc/modules
[15:49] <blazemore> ehhh: That's OK I have something else up my sleeve if that doesn't work
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, a good player for linux is mplayer
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> I use mpv which is a fork of mplayer2
[15:50] <ehhh> blazemore: alright, i'm starting to suspect the graphics card is the culprit to my problems though lol :P
[15:50] <DylanCl> blazemore: the safe remove thing didn't fix anything, sorry.
[15:50] <irreverant> I'm having with ubuntu, I can't do su - (password) for root
[15:50] <irreverant> do i have to enable the root user in the users daemon?
[15:50] <reisio> irreverant: root just doesn't have a password set by default, on Ubuntu
[15:50] <blazemore> DylanCl: OK did you try DJones 's solution?
[15:51] <Ari-Yang> you shouldn't touch root unless you know what you're doing. to execute a command in terminal as root you'd type: sudo commandhere
[15:51] <Anubis> irreverant:sudo
[15:51] <blazemore> irreverant: You can do "sudo su" to get a root shell if you need it (or sudo -s)
[15:51] <DylanCl> The program is for ubuntu 9.14
[15:51] <d4rkn30> Need help with Ubuntu Server 13.04, Somehow grub lost its settings and now is bringing me to a grub rescue command line
[15:51] <irreverant> so for example, i do yum install
[15:51] <reisio> d4rkn30: booting a live OS will make that more easily fixed
[15:51] <irreverant> i mean apt-get install xchat
[15:51] <reisio> irreverant: prepend 'sudo '
[15:51] <blazemore> DylanCl: http://mp3diags.sourceforge.net/
[15:51] <irreverant> then it asks for me to have root privilege to install
[15:52] <DylanCl> mplayer can't play the files either
[15:52] <reisio> irreverant: that's what Ubuntu wants you to do
[15:52] <blazemore> irreverant: you do "sudo apt-get install xchat" in that case
[15:52] <reisio> DylanCl: can you put one of these files online?
[15:52] <Anubis> dylancl: did you tried vlc?
[15:52] <blazemore> irreverant: Or... use the Software Center
[15:52] <reisio> DylanCl: we could tell you then whether it's the file or your system
[15:52] <irreverant> reisio: sudo apt-get install xchat?
[15:52] <DylanCl> Anubis: I did.
[15:52] <reisio> irreverant: yes
[15:52] <Ari-Yang> DylanCl, yeah, something is wrong
[15:52] <reisio> s/xchat/hexchat/
[15:52] <DylanCl> reisio: alright
[15:52] <Ari-Yang> you are probably missing deps, DylanCl
[15:52] <DylanCl> What host do you want?
[15:52] <reisio> DylanCl: I care not
[15:52] <irreverant> reisio: why not just su - <password> ?
[15:52] <reisio> irreverant: that is a good question
[15:53] <reisio> irreverant: unfortunately responding to it will upset the ops in this channel
[15:53] <DylanCl> ok starting up mp3diags
[15:53] <reisio> irreverant: this might be the upstream explanation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:53] <Ari-Yang> @ irreverant https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[15:53] <irreverant> reisio: so sudo is a shell command? or su -s?
[15:53] <d4rkn30> reisio: im booting it up.
[15:53] <blazemore> do we have ...
[15:53] <reisio> irreverant: sudo is like su for single commands
[15:53] <blazemore> !sudo | irreverant
[15:54] <blazemore> achievement get: sucesfully guessed an ubottu command
[15:54] <ehhh> blazemore: i'm back at the low-graphics mode screen
[15:54] <blazemore> ehhh: OK one more thing to try. What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[15:55] <ehhh> blazemore: 12.04, last case scenario if problems persist i need to get a hold of some dvds to burn 13.04 from since i can't get usb to boot on that computer
[15:55] <irreverant> does this syntax: apt-get update
[15:55] <irreverant> perform an update of the repositories?
[15:55] <pickle_> hello umm... I'm in a real pickle here. I "somehow" managed to delete half the files on my computer (including ubuntu software center, the terminal and several essential gui elemnts). Is there a way for me to recover them? Because I really don't want to have to reinstall ubuntu completely.
[15:55] <Ari-Yang> irreverant, yes...
[15:55] <DylanCl> Is it /msg to message people?
[15:55] <Ari-Yang> add the ppa, then apt-get update
[15:56] <Anubis> irreverant:yes
[15:56] <Ari-Yang> irreverant, then sudo apt-get install hexchat
[15:56] <blazemore> ehhh: make a backup of your sources.list file by doing "cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup"
[15:56] <reisio> DylanCl: hrmm?
[15:56] <blazemore> ehhh: Damn, you can't paste stuff here can you...
[15:57] <auronandace> !paste | blazemore
[15:57] <reisio> pickle_: if you didn't delete any personal files you don't have backed up, then reinstalling might be simplest
[15:57] <reisio> pickle_: depending on what's left, you can backup your list of what you had installed already, though
[15:57] <leonardo_> Hi, Im new to Ubuntu
[15:57] <ehhh> blazemore: no i have no idea how to transfer files in the terminal lol, i have usb pendrives so if it's possible from the terminal i probably can
[15:57] <blazemore> auronandace: Thanks lol but I mean ehhh is on his Windows laptop because his borked system is stuck in a TTY
[15:57] <leonardo_> I like it
[15:57] <reisio> and then get back basically the same system
[15:57] <irreverant> leonardo: So am I!
[15:57] <blazemore> auronandace: so *he* can't paste things here,
[15:57] <auronandace> blazemore: oh, sorry
[15:58] <blazemore> ehhh: Na, I need to see the contents of that file. Does your broken system have Internet?
[15:58] <irreverant> What benefits if any do I have installing WUBI over a Guest OS in VMWare on my windows box?
[15:58] <pickle_> reisio: if I reinstall do I have to backup my files (those that are left) or do I have to back them up first?
[15:58] <ehhh> blazemore: yes it's connected by wire
[15:58] <pickle_> wait, that's not what I wanted to say
[15:58] <Semen_Dickman> YOOOW
[15:58] <pickle_> reisio: I mean, will the files get deleted when I reinstall
[15:59] <d4rkn30> reisio: Okay im booted in, the grub.cfg looks fine
[15:59] <blazemore> ehhh: I'm going to send you a private message
[15:59] <irreverant> reisio: when I install wubi - does it load in a sandboxed api? What is load process for the ubuntu os when installed as a fodler in windows?
[16:00] <leonardo_> I have a question. How do I put the shoutcast in Rythmbox? Is there a Winamp for Linux maybe? Or any other useful software. Thank you for your help.
[16:00] <auronandace> irreverant: don't bother with wubi, it won't be around in the future
[16:01] <reisio> pickle_: depends on how you're partitioned
[16:01] <reisio> pickle_: you shouldn't worry about the OS files
[16:01] <irreverant> auronandace: why not? not popular? doesn't work well?
[16:01] <Anubis> irreverant: if you dont want to mess your system use virtualbox/vmware to test ubuntu
[16:01] <auronandace> irreverant: dropped due to uefi issues
[16:01] <reisio> irreverant: relying on NTFS doesn't turn out well
[16:01] <reisio> whether you're running a Unix system on it or Windows :p
[16:01] <irreverant> Anubis: Ok, sounds good. I just wanted to be familiar with all the deployment options.
[16:01] <pickle_> reisio: I don't even remember how I partitioned now...
[16:01] <reisio> pickle_: :)
[16:01] <leonardo_> I have a question. How do I put the shoutcast in Rythmbox? Is there a Winamp for Linux maybe? Or any other useful software. Thank you for your help. PM pls
[16:02] <irreverant> reisio: Anubis: auronandace: Do i have to configure the /usr /  /bin etc..... partitions or is this done on the fly?
[16:03] <auronandace> irreverant: what do you mean by configure?
[16:03] <irreverant> Create and maintain the sizes for each of these partitions?
[16:03] <reisio> irreverant: you can let it do it itself or you can do it manually
[16:03] <reisio> up to you
[16:03] <Anubis> irreverant: you can accept the suggested partition or you can manually configure partitions
[16:03] <reisio> leonardo_: audacious is the most like traditional winamp
[16:04] <irreverant> reisio: Anubis: auronandace: thank you.
[16:04] <Ari-Yang> leonardo_, I use mpd (music player daemon) and gmpc (as the gui front end)
[16:04] <auronandace> irreverant: i like to create before install but you can do it during
[16:05] <iamtony> Hi, if I use Files -> Connect to Server in the file browser, where is the directory actually mounted (I'd like to get to it from the terminal)? (Ub 13.04)
[16:05] <irreverant> auronandace: which fs do you prefer?
[16:05] <auronandace> irreverant: i've always used the default ext4
[16:06] <saiarcot895> iamtony: I think it's /mount/<user name>/
[16:06] <blazemore> iamtony: It goes in ~/.gvfs somewhere
[16:06] <blazemore> iamtony: Something like that
[16:06] <reisio> iamtony: the 'mount' command will likely say
[16:07] <iamtony> Great, thanks
[16:08] <Anubis> irreverant: you're welcome
[16:09] <blazemore> iamtony: Where was it in the end, as a matter of interest?
[16:09] <blazemore> iamtony: If you want something a bit more configurable but technical, take a look at sshfs in the repos
[16:10] <iamtony> blazemore: I don't know, network has just gone down. Typical :-)
[16:10] <DJones> DylanCl: The program is also for 13.04, all you need to do is "sudo apt-get install mp3diags" I've checked on my system running 13.04 and its quite happy to install it
[16:11] <DJones> DylanCl: The article talked about 9.10 etc, but I did say the app was still around
[16:12] <s1ngleton> hey all - I have enabled ChallengeResponseAuthentication in my sshd_config, and installed google-authenticator pam module... any ideas why SSH refuses to give me a prompt for the code?
[16:13] <blazemore> s1ngleton: I don't know, but thanks for letting me know that such a thing exists!
[16:13] <DylanCl> DJones: how do I remove all the MP3s that I put in that?
[16:13] <s1ngleton> blazemore, it's quite cool, but seems broken on 12.04 with openssh5.9
[16:13] <s1ngleton> I have it working for openvpn though, very nicely
[16:17] <DJones> DylanCl: As far as I can see, the only way of going back is to close the app
[16:17] <DylanCl> DJones: ah
[16:17] <DylanCl> DJones: well, I repaired everything
[16:17] <DylanCl> well
[16:17] <DylanCl> I applied all the fixes it wanted to do
[16:17] <DylanCl> do I just play the music now?
[16:18] <DJones> DylanCl: Its worth a try
[16:18] <DylanCl> it didn't fix them
[16:19] <GunArm> what command can I use to take a  1 line string and cut out all but the portion that matches a regex?
[16:19] <MonkeyDu1t> GunArm  awk is the command to use
[16:20] <Hwkiller> or sed.
[16:20] <GunArm> i was working with sed but it seems to all be line based
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> probably a few commands you can use
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> awk/sed/perl or anything else that processes text
[16:20] <Hwkiller> oh wait... could you use grep with -v ?
[16:21] <reisio> GunArm: you just said a 1 line string
[16:21] <GunArm> specifically what I want to do is take this line
[16:21] <GunArm> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 25 19:53 /sys/block/sdc -> ../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sdc
[16:21] <GunArm> and output the sdc
[16:21] <GunArm> or /sys/block/sdc
[16:21] <GunArm> either
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> how are you listing it to start?
[16:22] <GunArm> i already grepped to get that line
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> with ls?
[16:22] <Hwkiller> GunArm: you can double grep
[16:22] <Hwkiller> or add new things to filter by.
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> GunArm: ^
[16:22] <Hwkiller> and couldn't you run something like ls *sdc* ?
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> try looking at the output of ls -1 for whatever it is your doing there - it may help it would in turn just give you the sdc your looking for
[16:23] <GunArm> ls -l /sys/block/sd* | grep $x       where $x is host0 for example
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> try ls -1 sys/block/sd*
[16:24] <SolarisBoy> thats a folder so try with -1d
[16:24] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: but i have to grep by part of the string that I want removed, so first i have to ls with the full data
[16:24] <SolarisBoy> i see
[16:25] <SolarisBoy> what are you trying to do if you dont mind me asking?
[16:25] <overdub> GunArm, echo "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 25 19:53 /sys/block/sdc -> ../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sdc" | cut -d'>' -f2
[16:25] <GunArm> write a short script to translate ata1 to /dev/sda
[16:25] <vfgbvezav> hi
[16:25] <SolarisBoy> that may break if it's not a link though
[16:26] <vfgbvezav> I made a mistake and reduce my partition so I lost 10GO of files but don't know which one, do u know how to check if my files have errors or something like that thx guys
[16:26] <Hwkiller> but those are always links, SolarisBoy, at least in that directory.
[16:26] <puff> GunArm: Hm, sounds like you may want to use either find, or a full-blown perl script.
[16:26] <SolarisBoy> better to split on space in that case maybe split on spaces
[16:26] <irreverant> I'm failing at step 10 of reverting to Gnome 3 from this walkthrough http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370
[16:27] <SolarisBoy> i wonder what GunArm ultimate goal is.
[16:27] <argoneus> Hello
[16:27] <root_____> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fish.Fishbowl
[16:27] <irreverant> Has anyone disabled the Unity ui?
[16:27] <argoneus> If I want to dualboot ubuntu/windows7, then first I partition the disk to half ntfs/half ext4 in gparted on live cd, then install windows on the ntfs partition, and then install linux+grub on the other one?
[16:27] <vfgbvezav> hi argoneus
[16:27] <irreverant> argoneus yes.
[16:27] <vfgbvezav> yes
[16:27] <Pici> !notunity | irreverant
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> use bootrepair to restore grub on live cd
[16:28] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: i said a second ago, i'm trying to translate between "ata1" and /dev/sdx
[16:28] <irreverant> If you do it the other way around then you'll mess up the boot record
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> bootrepair live cd is the best
[16:28] <GunArm> overdub: i might use cut, thats a good start
[16:28] <argoneus> can't I use the windows disc to restore MBR?
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> I did that and worked like a charm
[16:28] <overdub> i simply use apt-get install kde-full to get away from unity
[16:28] <vfgbvezav> argoneus, don't know but bootrepair safe and working
[16:28] <Hwkiller> you won't mess up the MBR, it'll just clear grub from it.
[16:28] <irreverant> argoneus, yes you can but it's not as simple as using their recommendation
[16:28] <overdub> GunArm, you could use sed, awk, perl any of which can do anything to that line
[16:29] <Hwkiller> so you'd just have to reinstall grpb.
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> GunArm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64351/how-to-match-ata4-00-to-the-apropriate-dev-sdx-or-actual-physical-disk
[16:29] <Hwkiller> grub*
[16:29] <argoneus> so I need to burn a "bootrepair" cd?
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> i just ran the bash script on the bottom GunArm it works fine
[16:29] <irreverant> Kwkiller is right, it wont mess the mbr. that's a more specific answer
[16:29] <Hwkiller> grub*
[16:29] <reisio> argoneus: if you install Windows first and Linux second, there may well be no repairing required
[16:29] <Hwkiller> oops.
[16:29] <puff> GunArm: Do you care about hard links, or just soft links?
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> GunArm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5801978/
[16:29] <vfgbvezav> how to check integrity of a file?
[16:29] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: thank you that is what iw as basically trying to write
[16:30] <argoneus> one more thin
[16:30] <SolarisBoy> bingo then =)
[16:30] <reisio> argoneus: that is: unless there's some reason you want to have Windows boot itself instead of letting Linux do it...
[16:30] <argoneus> if I have ati/intel hybrid graphics on my laptop, is there a way to get catalyst running on ubuntu and switch between them?
[16:30] <Hwkiller> if you want windows to manage the boot, you need a bcd edit program,iirc
[16:30] <Hwkiller> easybcd
[16:30] <argoneus> or should I just use the opensource drivers
[16:30] <GunArm> SolarisBoy: puff: overdub: Hwkiller: thanks
[16:30] <irreverant> argoneus: Win 7 has a different load proces than xp and no longer utilizes the ntlodr option, windows 7 will wipe the arc path for the boot process and although the installation of Linux is valid, it won't be available.
[16:30] <reisio> argoneus: I don't follow it, but there are various stages of support
[16:30] <SolarisBoy> yw
[16:31] <Hwkiller> ooh... I'm not actually sure if the amd drivers support hybrid graphics yet.
[16:31] <reisio> argoneus: a search for your specific 'puter model, plus 'linux' might help
[16:31] <argoneus> ah ok thanks
[16:31] <reisio> well there's automated switching and manual switching
[16:31] <reisio> "manual", or if you're smart, programmatic :p
[16:31] <argoneus> reisio: no results :(
[16:32] <Hwkiller> reisio: is there an equivalent to primus/optirun for amd stuff?
[16:32] <Hwkiller> or do you mean just using the bios to force a gpu?
[16:33] <puff> GunArm: find /dev -type l -maxdepth 1
[16:33] <puff> GunArm: And then pipe that into whatever you want to do with the list of files, example:  find /dev -type l -maxdepth 1 | xargs ls -l
[16:36] <nightdrever> does compiz work without problems on ubuntu 12.04 with all effects?
[16:36] <overdub> nightdrever, that would likely depend on your hardware
[16:37] <reisio> Hwkiller: there is, IIRC
[16:37] <reisio> but I'm no expert
[16:37] <nightdrever> nvidea geforce gt 640, amd processor 4gb ram 4ghz
[16:37] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever, best way to really find out is to try it..
[16:38] <Hwkiller> reisio: me neither. I really only know about intel and nvidia.
[16:38] <nightdrever> but i dont want to 'try' if it ruins my pc
[16:38] <overdub> it won't hurt your hardware
[16:38] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever, I doubt it will do anything but ruin your pc
[16:38] <Ari-Yang> worse case scenario stuff on ubuntu may lag a bit
[16:38] <Hwkiller> nightdrever: you never need to worry about that :p.
[16:39] <Hwkiller> I'm fairly sure that pc will run just fine though.
[16:39] <Hwkiller> I have much weaker machines that run unity just fine.
[16:39] <karimi> hi every body
[16:39] <Ari-Yang> I set my cpufreq to 1.20MHz (max is 2.27) and power_profile to "mid", this may be a nice combo...
[16:39] <Actionparsnip> Same. I just choose not to
[16:39] <nightdrever> i have lots of things i dont want to lose and i dont have external hard drive to back up and im not buying one just incase compiz ruins things
[16:39] <Actionparsnip>  Karimi: howdy
[16:39] <Hwkiller> compiz won't hurt anything...
[16:40] <Hwkiller> it's just a window manager/compositor. it doesn't do anything to hurt it.
[16:40] <karimi> man or women
[16:40] <Hwkiller> of course though, you really should backup, just because that's a good practice.
[16:40] <reisio> men or women
[16:40] <Hwkiller> if it doesn't exist in 3 places, it doesn't exist at all.
[16:40] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: 1. Get a backup 2. Compiz is a (crappy) window manager, so can be changed at will
[16:40] <Ari-Yang> I don't like compiz
[16:41] <reisio> then don't use it or Unity
[16:41] <Makdaam> hi, how do I disable all power management and power saving in quantal?
[16:41] <malimbar> very happy that compiz is going away in Ubuntu soonish
[16:41] <Hwkiller> yeah... compiz is incredibly slow, but that's beside the point.
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> I don't like unity either lol
[16:41] <malimbar> well, in the next version or two
[16:41] <nightdrever> i just like the effects
[16:41] <nightdrever> is there anything else which gives affects like it?
[16:41] <reisio> shouldn't be slow unless you have inadequate hardware :)
[16:41] <Hwkiller> nightdrever: kwin.
[16:41] <reisio> nightdrever: yes
[16:41] <Hwkiller> and it does so much faster.
[16:41] <reisio> nightdrever: GNOME and KDE have their own things
[16:41] <Actionparsnip> Malimbar: not even got a DE here, just openbox :-)
[16:41] <malimbar> enlightenment is even better, but limited and weird
[16:42] <malimbar> haha, gotta lov eopenbox
[16:42] <Hwkiller> kwin does most of what people like about compiz, and does so way better.
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> I use Enlightenment, malimbar
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> E17
[16:42] <nightdrever> what would be the 'best' option for me?
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> !best
[16:42] <puff> GunArm: Or, to make it more relevant to your task:  find  /sys/block -maxdepth 1 -type l -exec readlink "{}" \;
[16:42] <Ari-Yang> ^ nightdrever
[16:42] <FloodBot1> Ari-Yang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <reisio> nightdrever: for someone who... what, doesn't want compiz?
[16:42] <nightdrever> well if you say compiz is bad anything like it which is good?
[16:42] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: are you using Precise?
[16:42] <reisio> nightdrever: I don't know who said that, but compiz is a wm, it's neither bad nor good
[16:43] <Hwkiller> nightdrever: yes.... kwin.
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever, it's all aobut personal preference...
[16:43] <Hwkiller> from kde.
[16:43] <nightdrever> Precise ... yes
[16:43] <Hwkiller> it has many of the effects that compiz boasts.
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> best way to find out is to /try/ it /yourself/
[16:43] <reisio> they're all mostly feature equivalent
[16:43] <k1l_> nightdrever: just tryout yourself. everybody got own favorites that might not suit you
[16:43] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: if you like unity but your 3D sucks then you can use the 2D Unity session.  Much faster and fewer resources
[16:43] <reisio> have to be to be competitive
[16:44] <nightdrever> my 3d doesnt suck
[16:44] <Hwkiller> in terms of effects, compiz and kwin have the others beat. most others focus more on functionality and speed though.
[16:44] <reisio> also if it did, you could spend $20 and get a dedicated GPU and improve your situation
[16:44] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: if it's running poorly under Ubuntu then.
[16:45] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: have a play, see what you like
[16:45] <vfgbvezav> hi is there a way to check if a file is corrupt in my hdd?
[16:46] <columb> How do I move application screen without Workspace Switcher or upper border?
[16:46] <reisio> vfgbvezav: that would depend on the type of corruption
[16:46] <reisio> vfgbvezav: which might depend on the type of file
[16:46] <reisio> vfgbvezav: more details
[16:46] <Actionparsnip> Nightdrever: for a light desktop but still feature rich, install lxde and try that
  thx for yout answer, I want to know if MKV's files are corrupt because I messed up my HDD with partioning
[16:47] <vfgbvezav> I lost 10 GO but don't know which files
[16:47] <Actionparsnip>  Colomb: right click decorator -> move to desktop
[16:49] <Actionparsnip> Colomb : askubuntu.com/questions/83761/how-do-i-move-window-to-specific-workplace-via-keyboard
[16:49] <smallmouse> can i use gpg -c to encrpyt a folder ?
[16:50] <elita15> i am interested in networking using linux, can someone please guide me from where do i begin?
[16:50] <malimbar> what do you mean by "networking" - what do you want to do?
[16:50] <Gilligan94> anyine know anything about the nvidia drivers?
[16:50] <Actionparsnip> Elita15: networking in what sensw?
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> Gilligan94, just ask your question, and if someone knows he/she may offer their help
[16:51] <jrib> elita15: you could tar the folder, and then encrypt that
[16:51] <Actionparsnip> Elita15: networking is varied and complex so without clarification the question is nonsensical
[16:51] <jrib> erm
[16:51] <Gilligan94> elita15: Networking on linux should work the same way as on any other platfor,
[16:51] <jrib> smallmouse: you could tar the folder, and then encrypt that
[16:51] <ehhh> i just looked at my cd/dvd drive on the front it says "r-dl", does this mean i can burn dual layer discs on this ??
[16:51] <smallmouse> jrib: tar ? is that just tar command
[16:51] <smallmouse> jrib: so it gpg does not work on folder just file
[16:51] <jrib> smallmouse: right
[16:52] <Actionparsnip>  Elita15 : dns server management comes under the "networking"
[16:52] <smallmouse> jrib: also can a windows user read it with a password
[16:52] <elita15> i am quite unaware of categories of networking, would you mind explaining?
[16:52] <jrib> smallmouse: also see http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/gpg_002dzip.html.  I assume there is some sort of gpg program for windows, yes
[16:52] <Actionparsnip> Elita15: or running a dhcp server
[16:52] <Actionparsnip> Elita15 : so, what do you want to achieve
[16:53] <ehhh> or the "r" probably means read if i'm not mistaken (7 years old computer lol)
[16:53] <llutz> elita15: http://linux.about.com/od/lna_guide/a/gdelna_idx.htm
[16:53] <veridiano> #Mossoró
[16:55] <elita15> actionparsnip,dhcp server.
[16:55] <Fuzzles92> will 12.04.3 get rarings kernal and opensource drivers?
[16:55] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  install normal ubuntu and use tasksel to select tasks
[16:56] <Actionparsnip> Elita15 : look into dhcpd or dhcp3-server
[16:56] <Vec_> Is it possible to login to CUPS server from another computer on the network? Or is the idea that you log into CUPS server from the machine hosting it and configure from there?
[16:56] <Actionparsnip> Fuzzles92: I doubt it
[16:56] <elita15> actually i am interested in networking using routers and switch. i am currently studying ccna
[16:57] <Actionparsnip>  Vec_: yes. It just needs configuration
[16:57] <Fuzzles92> Actionparsnip, can you explain to me what comes to the LTS in .1 .2 .3 .4 etc
[16:57] <Actionparsnip>  Elita15 : so how is this ubuntu related?
[16:58] <Vec_> Actionparsnip: I've configured the cupsd.conf to listen to all connections to the server hostname at port 631. as in -> "Listen <serverhostname>:631
[16:58] <MonkeyDu1t> isnt ccna for Cisco?
[16:58] <Actionparsnip> Fuzzles92 : I'd imagine it will be the same major release number but different minor release numbers
[16:58] <Vec_> Should that not be enough for me to login through http://<serverhostname>:631/admin on another machine?
[16:58] <Fuzzles92> Actionparsnip, i mean what updates does it get if not kernal updates and opensource drivers
[16:59] <irreverant> MonkeyDu1t: yes CCNA is the associate level certification
[16:59] <Actionparsnip> Vec_: can you connect to the socket using your browser?
[16:59] <Vec_> Actionparsnip: Not sure how i can verify if it is. It simply does not load the page.
[16:59] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  typ /j #cisco
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> how do I set my cpufreq to a default governor?
[17:00] <Ari-Yang> if I reboot it will default back to "ondemand"
[17:00] <Vec_> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/cups.html -- im following this guide. But i am unsure on how to authenticate to the server
[17:03] <Fuzzles92> can someone explain the service packs to LTSes plz like 12.04.2
[17:03] <tking> hello, i have a .doc file download from the internet, actual its a time table, on windows pc the tables show, on my linux no tables, i cant see what is written in the table but can see title of the document
[17:03] <reisio> tking: what're you viewing it in?
[17:04] <reisio> Fuzzles92: bug fixes, no doubt
[17:04] <tking> reisio, am viewing it whith libre office
[17:04] <auronandace> Fuzzles92: not really a service pack, just a newer iso with all the latest updates
[17:04] <reisio> tking: you might be able to see the data with catdoc
[17:04] <Fuzzles92> auronandace, does it get kernal updates and newer opensource drivers like from raring?
[17:06] <foofoobar> Hi. Is .bashrc not executed by /bin/bash ?
[17:06] <foofoobar> Because if I login it's not, but if I do a "source .bashrc" manually, it works
[17:06] <reisio> foofoobar: ~/.bashrc ?
[17:06] <foofoobar> reisio: yes
[17:07] <reisio> foofoobar: what've you got in ~/.bash_profile ?
[17:07] <reisio> foofoobar: anything mentioning bashrc?
[17:07] <foofoobar> reisio: no
[17:07] <reisio> foofoobar: might be your problem
[17:07] <foofoobar> reisio: there is just a line for initiating "rvm"
[17:08] <reisio> uhuh
[17:08] <foofoobar> reisio: should I put a "source .bashrc" in the .bash_profile?
[17:08] <reisio> foofoobar: try adding [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc
[17:08] <reisio> little better than just source
[17:08] <foofoobar> reisio: works, thanks :)
[17:09] <reisio> :D
[17:09] <reisio> I'm assuming Ubuntu had something like that by default
[17:09] <elita15> MonkeyDult,   where should i begin from? i know cisco is not related to networking using foss, so what exactly is related to net working using foss?
[17:09] <reisio> so you might seek out what happened / the default Ubuntu ~/.bash_profile
[17:09] <reisio> foofoobar: dpkg -L bash | grep -i skel might be a start
[17:12] <tking> reisio, do i need to instal cat doc?
[17:13] <reisio> tking: catdoc, quite possibly
[17:13] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  i was referring to CCNA
[17:13] <reisio> tking: very small app
[17:13] <ilbandito1000> ciao
[17:14] <ilbandito1000> !list
[17:14] <elita15> monkeydult, okay what about networking through foss, any idea?
[17:14] <tking> reisio, stalled so how do i open it with it?
[17:14] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  what do you want to know or achieve?
[17:15] <reisio> tking: it's a commandline app, open a terminal and run 'catdoc file.doc'
[17:15] <JamJar> Is it possible to have a preseed file specify the particular version of a package to install?
[17:16] <elita15> i  was learning networking  in microsoft and cisco . i just want to know about networking on linux platform.
[17:16] <Hwkiller> right, but what about networking? that's a really vague request
[17:17] <iceman> ciao a tutti
[17:17] <tking> reisio, missing some data still
[17:17] <debian-n00b> has anyone had problems getting 3 or more monitors working with 13.04? Whenever I turn mirroring off compiz keeps crashing and the menu bar disappears. Any ideas?
[17:17] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  then you should do some reading, as you did for that other OS you just mentioned
[17:17] <tking> reisio, actual no differience
[17:19] <elita15> MonkeyDult, okay thankds
[17:19] <elita15> *thanks
[17:19] <saiarcot895> JamJar: like having a text file with a list of packages and versions to install?
[17:19] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  this may be a good start
[17:19] <GeorgeTorwell> if I turn on a vpn connection while I have an app connected to an existing connection, what happens to the apps using the existing connection?
[17:19] <MonkeyDu1t> elita15  http://www.basicconfig.com/linuxnetwork
[17:19] <reisio> tking: and you're sure the exact same file shows a table on Windows?
[17:20] <JamJar> saiarcot895: i have a particular package that I want to fix at a certain version when I preseed, as the latest update has a bug that I wish to avoid
[17:20] <elita15> MonkeyDult, thankyou so much.
[17:20] <tking> reiso this is a screenshot  missing words in take (check brackets) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46512205/Screenshot%20from%202013-06-26%2018%3A18%3A35.png
[17:20] <x56_> tes
[17:21] <JamJar> saiarcot895: (specifically I want to hold plymouth at 0.8.2-2ubuntu30 - but presumably this is a general case)
[17:21] <nightdrever> I just installed kwin and kde stuff... now when i restart pc i get differet log in screen, and when i type kwin in terminal i get some effects but dashboard and 'taskbar' dissapears how do i remove this?
[17:22] <ProFlashback> Getting this when trying to install Ubuntu server LTS: http://pastebin.com/riKqNbi6 - ideas?
[17:22] <x56_> sudo apt-get remove
[17:22] <saiarcot895> JamJar: (I had to google this) try using this: "sudo echo <Package Name> hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections"
[17:22] <saiarcot895> JamJar: Replace <Package Name> with the name of the package
[17:22] <JamJar> saiarcot895: right, but i want to do this as part of a preseeded installation
[17:23] <JamJar> saiarcot895: as here - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[17:23] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: what does it say in the log, or on vc4?
[17:25] <axsuul> In 12.04, where exactly am I suppose to add a DNS server? I'm unable to ping google.com and I'm suspecting its a DNS issue
[17:26] <saiarcot895> JamJar: I have no experience with this, but based on the example config file, I would say it's somewhere in the base-installer section
[17:26] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, http://i.imgur.com/04yt0km.jpg
[17:26] <saiarcot895> JamJar: I'll try to research this
[17:26] <ProFlashback> sorry for the picture, can't copy and paste it :/
[17:27] <Vec_> How do i find out what Color Model my printer works with?
[17:27] <Vec_> (configuring cups)
[17:27] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: about an inch down from the top of that, what do you see?
[17:28] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, sec, will run back down to garage ;p
[17:28] <Hwkiller> Vec_: you mean cmyk and such?
[17:28] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: maybe more if you've got a bigger screen than I'm on just now ;-)
[17:28] <Vec_> Hwkiller: Exactly
[17:28] <Hwkiller> Vec_: what colors do you put into the printer itself?
[17:28] <Hwkiller> usually it says on the ink tank itsely.
[17:28] <Hwkiller> itself
[17:29] <litropy> What would cause network manager to unlist a wifi network after an unexpected disconnect?
[17:29] <litropy> Restarting list the network again.
[17:29] <litropy> lists*
[17:29] <maetrik> When I run "date" on my 13.04 x64 server, the output is "Wed Jun 26 13:29:11 EDT 2013". How can I change this to a 12 hour AM/PM format?
[17:29] <Vec_> Hwkiller: one small black tank, one bigass black tank, one yellow, one magneta, one cyan
[17:30] <litropy> Is there a log for network manager other than dmesg?
[17:30] <Hwkiller> so I'm gonna guess cmyk
[17:30] <Hwkiller> (cyan, magenta, yellow, black)
[17:30] <Vec_> why not kcmy
[17:30] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, http://i.imgur.com/jj87Qwa.jpg
[17:30] <saiarcot895> JamJar: This seems to fit: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/preseed-advanced.html#preseed-hooks
[17:30] <Hwkiller> oh, I didn't know there was such a thing
[17:30] <Hwkiller> hm...
[17:30] <Vec_> Hwkilller yeah thats what im confused about
[17:30] <Vec_> but i should google
[17:30] <Vec_> :p
[17:31] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: okay, so it looks like your install media isn't working
[17:31] <saiarcot895> JamJar: I think you could use preseed/late_command and have the dpkg command(s) there
[17:31] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: and it looks like it has failed to get a bunch of packages off it
[17:31] <ProFlashback> i see
[17:31] <joelwallis> How can I change my user's shell to zsh in Ubuntu 13.04? I'm trying to run "chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh" but it's not working
[17:31] <JamJar> saiarcot895: i'd probabbly want to do it before the offending package gets installed
[17:31] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, is there any way to download the packages from the internet?
[17:31] <JamJar> plymouth is pretty deep in the OS
[17:31] <ProFlashback> i have no other blank cd's left
[17:32] <Vec_> Hwkiller: its prolly cmyk, due to the fact that there is no tank to the right of the rightmost one
[17:32] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: yes but your install image needs to be working correctly first
[17:32] <Vec_> Hwkiller: it fits with cmyk reading from left to right. does not fit with kcmy
[17:32] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, so, try to find new cd and re-burn image?
[17:33] <Zw> Hi! What is the difference between byoub and screen?
[17:33] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: use a USB stick
[17:33] <saiarcot895> JamJar: then it would be between partman/early_command and preseed/late_command
[17:33] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, just extract it onto the stick or?
[17:33] <ProFlashback> or is there some tool
[17:33] <gordonjcp> ProFlashback: depends on what OS you're using to create the stick
[17:33] <gordonjcp> if you already have something Unixy (Linux, BSD, OSX) you can just use dd to put the image on
[17:34] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, I'm using Windows 8
[17:34] <gordonjcp> oh, no idea, I don't know how to use Windows
[17:34] <ProFlashback> (6.2.900)
[17:34] <ahungry> hey guys, how do I list the latest version of a package with apt-get
[17:34] <gordonjcp> check the wiki
[17:34] <gordonjcp> !install
[17:34] <ahungry> I want to see what php upgrade is available
[17:34] <ahungry> aptitude search php doesn't show version #s
[17:34] <ahungry> (non-gui, server here)
[17:34] <gordonjcp> ahungry: dpkg?
[17:34] <gordonjcp> maybe dpkg -l <package>
[17:35] <gordonjcp> that might only show you it if it's installed, not sure
[17:35] <ahungry> to see the latest available for upgrade, not necessarily what I have installed
[17:35] <ProFlashback> gordonjcp, alright, thanks. I'll try that and I'll just idle here
[17:35] <ahungry> my version is out of date a little bit
[17:35] <ProFlashback> Thanks (:
[17:35] <Hwkiller> Vec_: actually, I think the cmyk/kcmy is a preference.
[17:35] <ahungry> but I want to see just the version I could upgrade to if I do update
[17:35] <Hwkiller> do you want black or color printed first, essentially.
[17:35] <Hwkiller> not sure, but that's what I'm reading.
[17:36] <saiarcot895> JamJar: You could also have apt install the buggy package, force a downgrade, and then lock the package version
[17:37] <Zw>  What is the difference between byoub and screen?
[17:37] <Hwkiller> never heard of byoub.
[17:37] <Hwkiller> is that a typo?
[17:37] <visievion> heh byobu Im sure.
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> byoubo is newer and under more current development Zw
[17:38] <Hwkiller> ah
[17:38] <Hwkiller> I use tmux.
[17:38] <MonkeyDu1t> screen <3
[17:38] <SolarisBoy> +1
[17:39] <deadweasel> +1
[17:39] <ejcweb> I want Chromium to launch every time with a certain flag specified. I can create a shortcut for this, but don't know how to specify the flag for generic URLs in other applications which will cause Chrome to be opened??
[17:39] <th0r> noiro, did that b43 module work?
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> i have been trying to force myself to switch to tmux or byobou - but screen works absolutely fine for me
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> ejcweb: make chromium your default browser
[17:40] <deadweasel> SolarisBoy: i've wanted to try terminator and some others, but screen is great.
[17:40] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: you can move the .desktop entry to ~/.local/applications and modify what it execs.
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> deadweasel: oh i use terminator =)
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> deadweasel: terminator + screen is heaven
[17:40] <deadweasel> i guess I need to look into terminator too.
[17:40] <ejcweb> SolarisBoy: It is my default browser. I want it to run 'chromium-browser --disable-accelerated-compositing' whenever it is launched though.
[17:41] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: so... $ cp /usr/share/applications/chromium* ~/.local/share/applications
[17:41] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: What is the .desktop entry?
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> ejcweb: ahh i see
[17:41] <deadweasel> hard to find info w/out encountering Arnold Schwarzanegger.
[17:41] <MonkeyDu1t> or chuck norris
[17:41] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: then open ~/.local/share/applications/chromium*desktop in a texteditor
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> that guy is scary
[17:41] <Hwkiller> change the Exec= line to include your flags.
[17:43] <Hwkiller> A .desktop entry is basically some metadata about gui applications. e.g., what it's called, what to execute, what it handles, descriptions, the category it's in (e.g., videa, internet)
[17:43] <deadweasel> that's quite a feature list.  do you like the tabbing, SolarisBoy ?
[17:43] <deadweasel> ;;title http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_(terminal_emulator)
[17:43] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Thanks. What do you mean by chromium*desktop?
[17:44] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: I'm not sure whether it's called chromium-browser.desktop or just chromium.desktop
[17:44] <Hwkiller> the * is a wildcard.
[17:44] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Aha, I see. Thanks,
[17:44] <Hwkiller> so chromium*desktop could mean chromium-browser.desktop or chromium-Idon'tknowthename.browser, etc.
[17:45] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Incidentally, why do I need to move it the .local to do this?
[17:45] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: so that it only applies to your user, but mostly so that any time chromium updates, it won't remove the changes to the original.
[17:46] <Hwkiller> if chromium updates, it'll replace the one in /usr/share. putting it in your home will avoid that.
[17:46] <maetrik> When I run "date" on my 13.04 x64 server, the output is "Wed Jun 26 13:29:11 EDT 2013". How can I change this to a 12 hour AM/PM format?
[17:47] <Hwkiller> maetrik: date +%r
[17:47] <Hwkiller> see date --help
[17:47] <noiro> th04, worked like a charm. Thank you!
[17:47] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: And is the shortcut searched for first in ~/.local/share/applications first before /usr/share/applications ?
[17:47] <Hwkiller> yeah.
[17:48] <Hwkiller> as per the xdg standard.
[17:48] <maetrik> Hwkiller that means that by default ubuntu server displays in 24 hour format even if the server is on the EST/EDT timezone and region settings usa?
[17:48] <Hwkiller> maetrik: well, I think that's a standard on unix/like systems.
[17:48] <maetrik> ok cool
[17:48] <maetrik> good to know
[17:48] <Hwkiller> np.
[17:50] <ehhh> random question, i think my hdd's are ATA, will i be able to use SATA drives in this computer (stationary) or are the plugs different?
[17:51] <Teh_Bucket> ehhh, how old's the motherboard?
[17:51] <reisio> ehhh: the plugs differ
[17:51] <ehhh> the whole computer's about 7 years old
[17:51] <Teh_Bucket> unless it's years and years old, it's probly got sata plugs. look at it and google what sata plugs look like
[17:51] <reisio> ehhh: thin ribbons are sata, very wide ribbons are pata
[17:52] <reisio> ehhh: http://images.yourdictionary.com/images/computer/_SATPAT.JPG
[17:52] <ehhh> i found a very thin cable in the mess, looks like the sata you linked reisio
[17:52] <msh210> hi, all. chown isn't working. That is, I do sudo chown -RL foo:foo /dir # (also without sudo) and ls still shows root:root. (There's also no output to screen, not even with 2>&1.) I checked /etc/passwd and /etc/group to make sure the foo:foo is correct. (This is Raring.) What can I do?
[17:52] <ehhh> but don't you need two cables to connect?
[17:52] <reisio> ehhh: in the mess _inside_ your computer? :p
[17:53] <reisio> ehhh: usually just one, from the mobo to the drive
[17:53] <Pici> msh210: Does the filesystem on which /dir is mounted support permissions?
[17:53] <msh210> pici, how do I know?
[17:53] <ehhh> reisio: yes it's so stupidly built the secondary hard drive is floating in mid air LOL :P
[17:54] <reisio> ehhh: heh, k
[17:54] <reisio> ehhh: yeah if you have a thin sata cable inside a computer, and it's connected to the mobo, you should be all set for sata
[17:54] <Pici> msh210: If you tell me what filesystem its on, I can tell you. Check the output of   mount
[17:54] <axsuul> In 12.04, where exactly am I suppose to add a DNS server? I'm unable to ping google.com and I'm suspecting its a DNS issue
[17:54] <ehhh> reisio: sounds good, i will need the additional space if i can get the computer running as stable as possible
[17:54] <msh210> pici /dev/sda1 on /tee type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[17:55] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: The shortcut now works great. How can I fix the Unity shortcut for Chromium now?
[17:55] <ejcweb> It doesn't use the new one I've made.
[17:55] <saiarcot895> axsuul: Check network settings, and you'll have to change the IPv4 settings to Automatic (DHCP only) or Manual
[17:55] <Hwkiller> ejcweb: you can probably log out and back in, and it should work.
[17:55] <debian-n00b> has anyone had problems with unity crashing while using 3 monitors and disabling mirroring?
[17:55] <Znoosey> axsuul, instead of guessing try to ping an outside address, like <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:55] <axsuul> saiarcot895: how about through terminal?
[17:55] <Hwkiller> unity uses the same standard.
[17:55] <Pici> msh210: Is this your windows partition?
[17:55] <Hwkiller> it probably just needs to update its cache.
[17:55] <axsuul> Znoosey: that works, i'm SSHed in remotely
[17:55] <ejcweb> Hwkiller: Thanks for your help.
[17:56] <Hwkiller> np man.
[17:57] <msh210> pici, no..... I mean, I've never seen the machine: I only ssh into it. But afaik it runs only ubuntu
[17:58] <praveen___> How to recover deleted files in 12.04 LTS with Photorec ?
[17:58] <Pici> msh210: Can you check in /etc/fstab if it says something other than fuseblk for that device?
[17:58] <Znoosey> axsuul, then edit the file /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf
[17:59] <axsuul> Znoosey: hmm its empty
[17:59] <Znoosey> oops sorry dhclient.conf
[17:59] <Znoosey> :P
[17:59] <msh210> pici  it says ntfs
[18:00] <axsuul> Cool, so I uncommented and have this line: prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>;
[18:00] <Znoosey> axsuul, it should have an entry for domain name servers
[18:00] <Znoosey> yeah that is googles dns
[18:00] <Znoosey> so it should work nicely
[18:01] <axsuul> Znoosey: do i need to restart anything for it take effect?
[18:01] <Znoosey> axsuul, i can't remember
[18:01] <Znoosey> been a while since i did this
[18:02] <Pici> msh210: If you need to set permissions on all the files in that partition so that you modify them by your users, you'll need to change the mount options in fstab for that.  you can use the uid and gid options for that. See man mount.fuse details.
[18:02] <ehhh> will xubuntu 12.04 64 bit need a burnt dvd compared to 32bit? 64bit is 707mb and 32bit is 689. . i currently only have cds available
[18:04] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, Just curious -- why a disc instead of a flash drive?
[18:04] <ehhh> ForSpareParts: the computer is old and i just get errors when i try to boot from usb
[18:04] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, Ah, that's fucking lame.
[18:04] <gordonjcp> ehhh: can it PXE boot?
[18:04] <reisio> almost as lame as adding 7MB to an install image
[18:04] <Alina-malina> please OP of this channel contact me!
[18:04] <reisio> when it worked fine without that extra 7
[18:05] <reisio> Alina-malina: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[18:05] <nightdrever> Hi, im in compiz and i want to disable Ubuntu unity plugin.... however there is no check box next to it so i cant.... any way to fix?
[18:05] <ehhh> reisio: my thoughts exactly :P
[18:05] <ehhh> gordonjcp: what's a pxe boot? i'll google it
[18:05] <reisio> !notunity @ nightdrever
[18:05] <reisio> !notunity
[18:05] <reisio> ubottu: not much chance of that
[18:05] <reisio> nightdrever: ^
[18:05] <reisio> ehhh: network thing
[18:05] <msh210> pici ... this may be the XY problem. What I reallyneed is for user foo to have full permissions on the file rwxrwxrwx on eachfile & dir should suffice, right?
[18:06] <reisio> ehhh: it's possible it's the way you put the image onto the USB that's causing it, however
[18:06] <OerHeks> reisio, maybe !nounity ?
[18:06] <reisio> OerHeks: good piont
[18:06] <reisio> and also, good point
[18:06] <lmat> I have ubuntu installed on a computer and it stopped letting me SSH to it (timeout, like the service isn't running anymore), so I restarted the machine, then it wasn't responsive at all.
[18:06] <reisio> 'cept !notunity already worked :)
[18:06] <lmat> Then, I stuck a monitor and keyboard on it, restarted, and nothing shows up on the monitor. What should I do?
[18:06] <lmat> (It's been in service for about 3 or 4 years now)
[18:06] <reisio> lmat: what do you see after your bios screen?
[18:07] <lmat> reisio: I don't see the bios screen :(
[18:07] <ehhh> reisio: i don't think so, i've tried universal usb installer, yumi, unetbootin, live-usb-install
[18:07] <msh210> lmat is it plugged in?
[18:07] <reisio> lmat: then talk to #hardware
[18:07] <litepool> rsync -a -r -z -v --progress --partial -e ssh /root/.litecoind root@ip:/root/.litecoind
[18:07] <reisio> ehhh: that's a lot :p
[18:07] <ehhh> reisio: the usb boots on another laptop i have lying around so i'm pretty sure it's the computer
[18:07] <lmat> I tried pressing the F keys during boot, and it was apparent to me that it got to some sort of bios setup ... I guess.
[18:07] <reisio> ehhh: entirely possible
[18:08] <Pici> msh210: yes, but you can set that via fstab as well.
[18:08] <msh210> pici ... this may be the XY problem. What I really need is for user foo to have full permissions on the file rwxrwxrwx on eachfile & dir should suffice, no matter who the owner & group is, right?
[18:08] <msh210> pici ok thanks
[18:11] <Friberg_> So, My newly setup linux-machine with fglrx-drivers from amd running 6x21.5" full-hd displays in 3x2 configuration (3 wide, 2 height). When I startup, i get the loginscreen without trouble. Once logged in, i only get a big mouse pointer, background image on all screens and one blank white box on the primary screen.
[18:11] <msh210> have a great day, all; thanks for your help, Pici
[18:11] <Friberg_> Whats wrong? or how do i troubleshoot it?
[18:12] <debian-n00b> Friberg: I am having a similar problem.
[18:12] <Friberg_> Moving the mouse gave me something about ubuntu and internal error
[18:12] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: really?
[18:13] <Friberg_> compiz is screewing things up here.
[18:13] <Friberg_> it actually segfaults.
[18:13] <Friberg_> Also, its running on a Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB
[18:14] <debian-n00b> yeah.. I am running 3 monitors on a Radeon HD 7990 I think the model. My problem is whenever I turn of monitor mirroring compiz crashes
[18:15] <debian-n00b> turn off
[18:15] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: sounds like the same problem
[18:15] <Friberg_> i run fine with mirroring
[18:15] <Friberg_> but that really doesn't give me use for 6 screens :P
[18:16] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: are you running 13.04?
[18:16] <debian-n00b> lol.. same here
[18:17] <Friberg_> But yeah, once compiz crashes, I have no desktop.
[18:20] <Friberg_> debian-n00b: I'll try 13.10 and see how that works.. just told it to upgrade.. :P
[18:22] <Friberg_> btw, is 13.10 / saucy equivalent to say debians testing?
[18:22] <Friberg_> or what is it?
[18:22] <hacktus0> hello evry body, What is server NAS and gluster?
[18:23] <MonkeyDu1t> hacktus0  do you want to know what a NAS is?
[18:23] <hacktus0> MonkeyDu1t, yes
[18:24] <MonkeyDu1t> hacktus0  very roughly: it's a HDD with networking capabilities
[18:24] <Teh_Bucket> ok, i've been wrestling with 12.04's desktop, managed to get it to somewhat good, and now alt-tab doesn't even work!
[18:24] <DJones> Friberg_: 13.10 is still in development, its not due for release until October, you should be aware that there can be breakages while its being developed
[18:24] <Friberg_> more like, small computer with much HDD and specific software, mostly for webmanagement.
[18:25] <hacktus0> it's cloud, MonkeyDu1t
[18:25] <Friberg_> DJones: ah, i see. So is everything new going directly there? like Sid in debian?
[18:25] <Guest75453> Fresh install of 13.04 (64 bit) and when I open the file manager, it crashes (without being able to select a folder, move the selected folder with the keyboard...) - after a minute, it greys out and force quits. Any ideas?
[18:25] <MonkeyDu1t> hacktus0  plenty tutorials, here's one http://sohoadvisers.com/tutorials/ubuntu-linux/create-a-nas-using-ubuntu-linux
[18:26] <Vec_> If i want to upgrade an application on my ubuntu server, can i simply do "apt-get upgrade <packagename> ?
[18:26] <DJones> Friberg_: You'll get a better description/details of it if you ask in #ubuntu+1 any support or issues are normally discussed there until its released
[18:26] <Friberg_> DJones: i see :)
[18:26] <Friberg_> thanks
[18:27] <DJones> Friberg_: I've not used it yet, I normally wait until about a month before release to start using it :)
[18:27] <hacktus0> I saw in newspaper of linux : we can do NAS with gluster (it's program)
[18:27] <hacktus0> MonkeyDu1t I saw in newspaper of linux : we can do NAS with gluster (it's program)
[18:28] <Friberg_> DJones: well, i've played around with ubuntu once before, and that was like 10 years ago
[18:28] <MonkeyDu1t> !find gluster | hacktus0
[18:28] <Guest75453> Friberg_, what do you use at the moment?
[18:28] <Friberg_> just thought i'd give it a shot once again since my debian install didn't want to work on the first try
[18:28] <Friberg_> Guest75453: debian :)
[18:28] <Friberg_> atleast for my servers
[18:29] <Friberg_> my desktop is still at win 8 thou.. and I hate it.
[18:29] <Friberg_> but the multiple monitor setup works fine
[18:29] <Guest75453> Linux (of any kind) giving you monitor issues?
[18:29] <hacktus0> with glusterfs-server ,ubottu,MonkeyDu1t
[18:29] <Vec_> I want to update my CUPS to the newest version, i have 1.5.3 atm and im pretty sure its bugged with my printer. What is the best way of updating to the newest package without losing my config file?
[18:29] <gordonjcp> I must play with gluster at some point
[18:29] <Friberg_> Guest75453: yep. One monitor works good, maybe two. but 6.. never.
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Friberg_: thing is, it's a bit of an edge case
[18:30] <gordonjcp> Friberg_: if *everyone* had 6-monitor setups...
[18:30] <Friberg_> gordonjcp: yepp, no once uses that :)
[18:30] <Guest75453> 6? greedy :-P
[18:30] <Guest75453> 6 14inch CRTs?
[18:30] <Friberg_> hehe ;)
[18:30] <Friberg_> 6 x 21.5" full-hd IPS panels
[18:32] <_helios_> Hey I upgraded to xubuntu 13 and I have been having allot of crashes when using web browsers anyone know what could be causing it?
[18:32] <ehhh> ok so the geniuses who made xubuntu made it 5mb too big for cds, i have the option to truncate it (write until end of disc) or overburn (write until end of image), which do you think i should try (first)? (i'm thinking overburn . . )
[18:32] <Friberg_> ehhh: I'm thinking USB :)
[18:32] <jrib> ehhh: don't use a cd?
[18:33] <ehhh> lol for the 100th time i can only use discs because usb won't boot properly on the computer i'm trying to install to :P
[18:33] <Friberg_> pxe
[18:33] <_helios_> use a dvd
[18:33] <jrib> ehhh: dvd
[18:33] <gordonjcp> Friberg_: I suggested that
[18:33] <Friberg_> pxe is awesome
[18:33] <gordonjcp> ehhh: remove the drive, put it in something that *does* boot off USB, install, replace
[18:33] <gordonjcp> ehhh: boom, headshot
[18:33] <Friberg_> :D
[18:33] <ehhh> no chance of getting it working with the cd? i'm out of dvds untill atleast tomorrow
[18:34] <jrib> ehhh: use minimal install
[18:34] <superdisk> Hello, fellows
[18:34] <jrib> !minimal | ehhh
[18:34] <superdisk> I have come to this chatroom at the request of my friend, C. Michael
[18:34] <gordonjcp> ehhh: you don't need a DVD, you need a USB stick
[18:34] <superdisk> *ahem*
[18:34] <superdisk> Windows is good.
[18:34] <jrib> !ot | superdisk
[18:35] <_helios_> Does anyone know why xubuntu 13 keeps crashing when using browser?
[18:35] <jrib> _helios_: you should say 13.04 or 13.10
[18:35] <ForSpareParts> jrib, I didn't know about the minimal installer. Handy!
[18:35] <gordonjcp> _helios_: when you say "crashing", what *exactly* happens?
[18:35] <_helios_> Well the screen gets distorted
[18:35] <_helios_> like an old nintendo game when it messed up
[18:35] <_helios_> And nothing works.
[18:35] <Friberg_> broken graphics driver?
[18:36] <gordonjcp> ye
[18:36] <_helios_> how would I revert back to the old graphics driver it was using in 12.10?
[18:36] <_helios_> I never had this problem in 12.10
[18:36] <istiaque> When i use windows 7 ,,i use pixie (Pixie is a utility made especially for webmasters and designers. It is a color picker with few extra goodies.),What is the alternative soft in linux ?
[18:36] <curVV> Hi anyone know what gvfsd-metadata does?
[18:36] <ehhh> jrib: minimal install looks good, would i have to install the gui manually after install? (i want to try xfce to see results compared to ubuntu)
[18:37] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, check out Additional Drivers tab under Software Sources
[18:37] <jrib> ehhh: you can just install xubuntu-desktop package.  You should be able to select it during the install, but if you don't, you can also just install it afterwards
[18:37] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: I have been there which one should I pick loL?
[18:37] <jrib> ehhh: do you already have ubuntu?
[18:37] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, go with open source one _helios_
[18:37] <Ari-Yang> radeon xorg one
[18:38] <Ari-Yang> fglrx is a horrible driver =/
[18:38] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: I think thats the one it was set at let me check.
[18:38] <Friberg_> really?
[18:38] <Friberg_> i actually had three choices there. two fglrx and one something else.
[18:38] <ehhh> jrib: ubuntu went ahead and failed on me about 10 times the last days . . i don't think xubuntu will be that much more in terms of that because i keep having issues on this old thing
[18:39] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, it was already set to open source or fglrx proprietary?
[18:39] <ehhh> jrib: and i tried to fresh install some minutes ago and it also failed and put me on the live cd . .
[18:39] <jrib> ehhh: ok. Then fresh install may suit you best
[18:39] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: one sec Im checking now
[18:39] <Ari-Yang> kk
[18:39] <Vec_> Hey guys, I'm trying to update to the newest version of CUPS on my ubuntu system. Doing apt-get update then upgrade does not update my CUPS. How can i upgrade that one spesific application?
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> _helios_, you might find this interesting http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?81666-AMD-Has-Massive-Radeon-Patch-Set-Power-Management!#post338568 (also other users who use radeon)
[18:40] <mumpitzel> Vec_: apt-get install <package>
[18:40] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: It is set as Using X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[18:40] <Friberg_> I knew I should have installed this on my SSD. This upgrade takes forever.
[18:40] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: open source
[18:40] <Vec_> mumpitzel: How do i know what the package name is?
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> Ari-Yang, oh nvidia...
[18:40] <Ari-Yang> I' not sure then _helios_
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> try out another driver in that list
[18:41] <Ari-Yang> then reboot
[18:41] <nightdrever> how do i stop .... the unlock keyring .... it happens quite alot?
[18:41] <_helios_> k brb
[18:41] <_helios_> brb
[18:41] <_helios_> exit
[18:42] <mumpitzel> Vec_: for cups? dpkg -l |grep -i cups   should give you a hint
[18:42] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, alternativeto.net suggests gpick -- not sure if it's what you need, but worth a shot! https://code.google.com/p/gpick/
[18:42] <Vec_> mumpitzel: Yeah. Writing that stuff now (started learning linux/ubuntu yesterday, please bear with ^^)
[18:43] <RandPaul2016> 1
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[18:43] <RandPaul2016> sorry
[18:43] <RandPaul2016> was drying off my keyboard
[18:43] <nightdrever> i have set up ubuntu to auto log in ........ how do i change it so i enter a password?
[18:43] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, Available from the Software Center, or apt-get if you prefer (not sure if you're a big terminal user or not...?)
[18:43] <Vec_> mumpitzel: Am i guessing correctly if i guess that 1.5.3-0ubuntu8 is the full and total package name? Otherwise im pretty lost
[18:44] <jrib> nightdrever: how did you set it up in the first place?
[18:44] <mumpitzel> you guess wrongly. do you tell apt versions when you install something?
[18:44] <mumpitzel>  1.5.3-0ubuntu8  is certainly no package name
[18:44] <nightdrever> when i install ubuntu i gave password but got it to log in automatically
[18:44] <istiaque> i am new in linux distro...
[18:44] <Vec_> Thats what im infinitly confused about. The whole apt-get thing seems to only draw from sources.list and download/install whatever is new there
[18:45] <Pici> Vec_: why do you think you need a new version of cups?
[18:45] <mumpitzel> Vec_: that's its job
 thank you..
[18:45] <istiaque> i try my best
[18:45] <Vec_> However, the cups package im getting from apt-get is old. I need the newest one due to a bug in this package
[18:45] <mumpitzel> Vec_: what makes you sure a newer one is available?
[18:45] <Vec_> Pici: Canon printers struggle with a bug that halts printing halfway through with CUPS
[18:46] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, no problem. Hope it does the trick for you!
[18:46] <Vec_> mumpitzel: it says so on the website
[18:48] <nigga123> Faaackkk
[18:48] <ehhh> do you guys know if cheap stationary (desktop?) computers today are worth it and can run linux well for multimedia purposes? it would cost me about the same to buy a cheap media computer than to buy an expensive music streamer and it would only do that . .
[18:48] <mumpitzel> ehhh: any cheap PC today can stream music and movies and can show them both too
[18:49] <Pici> Vec_: Which website? What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:49] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, I've been using a repurposed desktop box as a home theater PC backed by Ubuntu with moderate success. A few problems here and there, but nothing game breaking.
[18:50] <Vec_> Pici: http://www.cups.org/, im running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:51] <rlab> Hello, On one of our ubuntu box's while in terminal this keeps appearing at random intervals, does anyone know what causes it?
[18:51] <rlab> unable to resolve host rlab-OptiPlex-330.rlab.org.uk
[18:51] <ehhh> that's what i was hoping to hear :) i'm at least giving my old desktop computer a go but i've had so many problems the last days that i'm starting to consider a new cheap one for the sole purpose is to play music stored locally and watch some movies here and there. and i think if this thing can play 1080p and .mkv without problems then anything should lol
[18:51] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, I've found that XBMC is an awesome, awesome, awesome piece of software, particularly if you're going to be using your computer with a TV. Easy to set up, very flexible, very powerful, cross platform, remote controllable from browsers, phones, tablets, and it does a bang-up job of streaming to other computers, too.
[18:52] <Pici> Vec_: Ubuntu will only provide security updates after a release has come out.  1.5.3 is the latest version that is available in 12.04.  There might be an unsupported PPA out there that provides a newer versions.
[18:53] <ForSpareParts> I run XBMC on my HTPC pretty much all the time, and I have it installed on other boxes to stream content from the HTPC. Very slick. One of my roommates actually has XBMC on his Raspberry Pi, and he uses it the same way, as a sort of thin-client interface to the HTPC.
[18:53] <ehhh> ForSpareParts: basically that's my plan, control it with an android device be it a tablet or phone . . i tried xbmc on this computer but that almost killed it . . i like to have at least one or two dedicated music players for different types of music (otherwise it gets clustered) so xbmcbuntu i'm half considering but the plan was to run xbmc
[18:53] <Vec_> Pici: Ok. Thanks.
[18:55] <Programmer_> i am considering removing kde from kubuntu. what is a better and fast desktop and doesnt cause as much lag?
[18:55] <ForSpareParts> ehhh, You may want to use a full Ubuntu install -- handy for when something breaks, or there's something you want to do/watch on a website somewhere. XBMC does content presentation -- read-only, and it's very strict about that.
[18:55] <istiaque> What is the best linux distro for a web-developer?
[18:55] <Pici> istiaque: If you're expecting us to tell you anything other than Ubuntu, you're in the wrong place.
[18:55] <ehhh> ForSpareParts: yes i'm thinking ubuntu or xubuntu is the best option, since it's a computer we
[18:56] <Pici> istiaque: use ##linux for asking about other linux distros.
[18:56] <ehhh> are talking about why not have the possibilities of an computer lol :P
 ok ,,  i understood,,thank you very much....
[18:57] <ForSpareParts> istiaque, If you're new  to linux, Ubuntu is known for being relatively easy to get up and running with, and it's about as close to "the standard" as anything is in the open-source community. What are you looking for/why are  you making the switch?
[18:58] <ripplebit> guys how do i start cinnamon?
[18:58] <Whitor> Hi all. If I switch to a terminal only screen (ie ctrl-alt-F1) and start VLC with a local video file, it plays the file in the terminal doing its best with ascii characters. If I do the same thing in a terminal window... it spawns the VLC gui and plays the file in there... How can I force it to remain in the terminal I typed the command in ?
[18:58] <ForSpareParts> ripplebit, Log out, and select it at the login screen (assuming you installed the package from apt).
[18:58] <auronandace> ripplebit: log out and pick it in the login screen
[18:58] <ripplebit> thanks mate
[19:02] <ripplebit> guys there's a big virtual keyboard at the bottom of the screen(cinnamon). how do i disable it?