[03:54] <izmanromli> jadakren: Jaunty, and the tutor i posted is about jaunty
[03:54] <jadakren> BoondoKlife, thought so. bigtom21485 you should check out the ubuntu repo for all the rhythmbox plugins
[03:54] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what were those commands im guessing i just substitue the name banshee instead of songbird in the command lines in the terminal
[03:55] <bigtom21485> alright
[03:55] <BoondoKlife> bigtom21485: Just check under the rhythembox prefs and see if it is there first. It should be
[03:55] <BoondoKlife> I really wish banshee did work though as i like its interface better.
[03:55] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: any luck?
[03:56] <bigtom21485> oh rythembox has always worked
[03:56] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, Okay, Right click on the axis you want to adjust.  Select object properties.  There is a scale tab.  Everything is defaulted to automatic.  Uncheck the automatic and adjust the ranges as desired.
[03:56] <bigtom21485> but i wanna be able to sync with my computer...so i have a backup copy
[03:56]  * acovrig asleep
[03:57] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders:  just out of curiosity where did you get that
[03:58] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, combination of creating a chart in OOCalc, and google search.
[03:58] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: If I can find it, would installing the CD that came  with the keyboard/mouse possibly help?
[03:58] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: oh alright, just checking. the ooo documentation was no help
[03:58] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, Were you able to get it to work?
[03:58] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: like a charm
[03:58] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, does the cd have ubuntu debs on it ?
[03:59] <izmanromli> jadakren: do you know where i can find php5.3 repo?
[03:59] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: That I do not know. It worked  automatically with 9.04, so I never bothered with the CD
[03:59] <jadakren> izmanromli, no but that page you linked seems to be the way... you didnt say why it didnt work.
[04:00] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: I suppose it's worth a shot though
[04:00] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: thanks!
[04:00] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, i would start by taking the machine id of the rf dongle and googleing it against karmic
[04:00] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, YW!
[04:00] <izmanromli> jadakren: it always error fetching when i tried to install libapache2
[04:01] <jadakren> izmanromli, "libapache2-mod-php5" you mean ?
[04:01] <izmanromli> jadakren: yes
[04:01] <jadakren> izmanromli, and the error is ?
[04:02] <izmanromli> jadakren: error fetching package from dotdeb ...
[04:04] <jadakren> izmanromli, have you tried compiling it ?
[04:04] <jadakren> izmanromli, i found this which might help you : http://thirdpartycode.com/2009/08/building-php-5-3-packages-on-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-for-apache-2/
[04:04] <izmanromli> jadakren: not yet, i'll try it now ... thx
[04:05] <jadakren> izmanromli, cant promise anything 1) i skipped jaunty 2) i dont need php5.3
[04:05] <chelz> jadakren: why'd you skip jaunty?
[04:05] <izmanromli> jadakren: that's fine :D
[04:06] <jadakren> chelz, becuase i was fine on intrepid
[04:06] <chelz> jadakren: did you upgrade or do a new install? and when did you?
[04:07] <jadakren> sometime last year i did a fresh install over intrepid (my home & /var/www is on another partition)
[04:07] <chelz> jadakren: is your /var/www a mountpoint or symlink?
[04:08] <jadakren> izmanromli, 5.3 is fairly new ? i cant even find ppa for it
[04:08] <jadakren> chelz, i think its a symlink (on my netbook its just on the same partition as / )
[04:09] <izmanromli> jadakren: not really ... it has been launched awhile ago
[04:09] <jadakren> izmanromli, maybe it will part of lucid then
[04:09] <bigtom21485> what are the most popular file sharing programs for ubuntu?
[04:10] <izmanromli> jadakren: i guess so, but i never read anything about lucid
[04:10] <chelz> bigtom21485: transmission, frostwire, nicotine, azureus, lanshark
[04:10] <denis-k> bigtom21485, LimeWire is available for linux/ubuntu
[04:10] <denis-k> o...frostwire is on linux too?
[04:11] <mcurran> limewire and deluge are my two favorites
[04:11] <Neezer> I'm having problems using kompozer to publish my webpage to my web server...anyone have any experience with this?
[04:11] <mcurran> transmission sucks, but a lot of people use it
[04:11] <jadakren> mcurran, why is that ?
[04:11] <izmanromli> mcurran: i use ktorrent
[04:12] <mcurran> name the file index.html and put it in /var/www/
[04:13] <BoondoKlife> mcurran: I LOVE transmission
[04:13] <jadakren> mcurran, if you're talking to Neezer then you'll need to 1) stop assuming they are talking about their own machine being the webserver 2) prefix your messages with their name 3) provide more info
[04:13] <Neezer> mcurran, I know I can do that, but I have kompozer on my laptop, and I want to try to ftp it...I'm not sure how to set it up...it is a pain to ssh it over to my server. then use the sudo command once I'm there to put it into /var/www
[04:13] <jadakren> Neezer, likewise you'll need to be more specific.
[04:14] <jadakren> Neezer, have you tried putting your user in the www-data group ?
[04:14] <Neezer> jadakren, thanks...I am using kompozer on my laptop...my server is at home, and I'm away from home for work....it sounds like I should be able to do it with the publish option in kompozer, but i keep getting errors.
[04:14] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there an alternative to Audacity?
[04:14] <Neezer> jadakren, no. is that on my server or on my laptop?
[04:15] <jadakren> Neezer, 1) i would use sshfs to mount the remote folder locally so that protocll issues are removed from the equation.
[04:15] <jadakren> Neezer, sorry i was referring to your user on the server
[04:15] <axisys_> how do I make sure my ubuntu laptop does not go to sleep when connected to AC, how do I do it by sshing to it?
[04:15] <MrPiracy_> how can i install old grub from a karmic live cd ?
[04:15] <Neezer> jadakren, protocll?
[04:16] <jadakren> Neezer, "protocol" ssh, smb, ftp etc etc deal with permissions in different ways...kompozer might be getting hung up on this
[04:16] <Neezer> I can mount my server system on my laptop, and I tried to do that and then just drag and drop, but it gave me permission issues cause it is in /var. Can I just chmod the folder to let me use it too?
[04:16] <Neezer> jadakren, *without using sudo
[04:17] <axisys_> i guess i configure /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[04:17] <jadakren> Neezer, well becuase my home web server is not a production server i can take risks with permissions. so i put myself in the www-data group and chown the whole /var/www to my username
[04:18] <wols_> MrPiracy_: is grub1 already on your disk? if so, grub-install restores it just as usual. if not, you need to get the .deb for grub and dpkg -i it
[04:18] <jadakren> axisys_, no. is it having a gnome desktop ?
[04:18] <Neezer> is that sudo chown nathan:nathan /var/www?
[04:18] <wols_> jakeriver: why chown /var/www _and_ add yourself to the group?
[04:18] <jadakren> Neezer, yes but i dont overwrite the group. so i use : sudo chown jadakren: /var/www/ -R
[04:18] <Neezer> jadakren, sorry about not using your name....is that sudo chown nathan:nathan /var/www?
[04:18] <Neezer> oops
[04:19] <jadakren> Neezer, you still want the group to remain as www-data
[04:19] <blendmaster1024> can anyone ping <IP_ADDRESS>? and if you can what about can you get to the "accept key" part on 'ssh <IP_ADDRESS> -p 443'
[04:19] <MrPiracy_> wols_: :) haven't though of the .deb ... thx
[04:19] <axisys_> jadakren: i dont have access to gnome desktop from I am sitting.. i need to go close to it for that.. lol .. i think i just modify /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[04:19] <fiyawerx> Is there a way to install the new catalyst in Lucid for amd64?
[04:19] <wols_> !Zilnof Wright, John C - Golden Age 03 - The Golden Transcendence - HTM.rar
[04:20] <Neezer> jadakren, I'm pretty new to this...but i think i get it....the group for /var/www is www-data? and doing nathan:nathan would make it in the nathan group, but just nathan: keeps it in the www-data group?
[04:20] <axisys_> jadakren: ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_AC=0 hmm.. this is already set like i wanted
[04:20] <jadakren> axisys_, no my question was does the laptop have a gnome desktop? if so you can just use X forwarding in an ssh session to run the gui config app
[04:21] <axisys_> jadakren: i guess ipw2200 died caused the screen blank and not want to wake up
[04:21] <jadakren> Neezer, correct.
[04:21] <axisys_> jadakren: yes it has gnome
[04:21] <jadakren> axisys_, ssh user@laptop -Y
[04:21] <axisys_> jadakren: in
[04:21] <jadakren> axisys_, then run gnome-power-settings
[04:22] <casemods> can anyone tell me how to install thunderbird?
[04:22] <axisys_> jadakren: sudo ?
[04:22] <jadakren> axisys_, i mean : gnome-power-preferences
[04:22] <axisys_> jadakren: cool! thanks
[04:22] <jadakren> axisys_, if the options you want are not there... try looking in gconf-editor
[04:23] <jadakren> axisys_, i actually suspect you will need to tango with dbus to prevent the screen turning off when power cable is unplugged
[04:23] <ubuntu_user_01> so I have a server with a raid 6 array and the OS on a seperate HDD...that HDD is now failing, so if i pull it out...throw in a new HDD and reinstall ubuntu on it will i be able to recover my raid 6 array?
[04:23] <fiyawerx> or is it only available for non 64 bit so far.. or is it even available for that? I was able to find it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:8.721-0ubuntu1/+build/1568894
[04:23] <fiyawerx> but not sure how to get that to work
[04:24] <axisys_> jadakren: yep, it looks good
[04:24] <axisys_> jadakren: not sure why the laptop did not respond.. i had to ssh to it and reboot
[04:24] <axisys_> jadakren: guessing the ipw2200 firmware keep dying.. but i still ssh to it .. so that could not be it
[04:25] <jadakren> axisys_, is that a wifi card ?
[04:25] <casemods> when I try to install a flash plugin, it says it cannont find package
[04:25] <jadakren> casemods, how are you trying to install it ?
[04:25] <axisys_> jadakren: builtin intel chip on hp nc6220 laptop
[04:25] <jadakren> axisys_, ok not sure what that is but what does the ipw2200 do ?
[04:25] <casemods> jadakren: in firefox, when trying to install adblock plus, it asks for a flash plugin
[04:26] <jadakren> casemods, do you have ubufox installed ?
[04:26] <axisys_> jadakren: intel wifi driver
[04:26] <Neezer> thanks jadakren, working a little better now...i'd still like to get the publish feature of kompozer working.
[04:26] <ubuntu_user_01> can anyone help
[04:26] <casemods> no, I don't know that is jadakren
[04:26] <ubuntu_user_01> ??
[04:26] <jadakren> !help | ubuntu_user_01
[04:27] <jadakren> casemods, are you using ubuntu 9.10 ?
[04:27] <casemods> I believe so.
[04:27] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: i like find the answer too
[04:27] <casemods> jadakren:
[04:27] <Headtalk|>  if i have 4 cores with HT  do i put -lavdopts threads=4  or  -lavdopts threads=8
[04:27] <axisys_> jadakren: he already asked a question
[04:27] <axisys_> jadakren: /lastlog ubuntu_user_01 will show
[04:28] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: if that were zfs raid6 u wound have no issue.. not sure how ext3 or ext4 works
[04:29] <ubuntu_user_01> its JFS raid 6
[04:29] <Headtalk|> what is better  ext or resierfs
[04:29] <ubuntu_user_01> resierfs is dead
[04:29] <ubuntu_user_01> ext4 is the future
[04:29] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: it is already here.. ext4 that is
[04:29] <Headtalk|> why did people use resierfs then
[04:29] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: in karmic
[04:29] <jadakren> casemods, so you didnt actually specifically try to install flash plugin itself ?
[04:30] <jadakren> !flash | casemods
[04:30] <ubuntu_user_01> i know its here and its the fs for the future is what i meant lol
[04:30] <jadakren> ubuntu_user_01, actually waiting for the revisioned file system to be honest.
[04:30] <psycho_oreos> ext4 isn't stable yet
[04:30] <casemods> jadakren: when I went to install adblock plus, it told me I needed a flash plugin to view the site properly and gave me a list of 3 choices. each one tried and failed and told me it was unable to find the file associated with it
[04:31] <psycho_oreos> and there's plenty of competitors out there
[04:31] <Headtalk|> is it possible to convert  resierfs to  extx  without losing data?
[04:31] <jadakren> casemods, have a read of this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[04:31] <axisys_> so anyone knows if an external jfs raid6 will survive with new linux OS ?
[04:31] <MrPiracy_> wols_: can i install grub from apt-get in terminal? i think it would be easier
[04:31] <axisys_> that was a question from ubuntu_user_01
[04:32] <darolu> psycho_oreos, ext4 was declared stable on 21 October 2008
[04:32] <axisys_> and i like to know the answer too
[04:32] <psycho_oreos> darolu, and yet it isn't as of ubuntu 9.10 with bugs about large files
[04:32] <Headtalk|> why did some people used reiserfs intead of ext
[04:32] <jadakren> casemods, i think im using adobe-flashplugin  at the moment (sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin )
[04:33] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, the way reiserfs managed files were different to ext
[04:33] <darolu> psycho_oreos, I didn't know that, how large does a file need to be to trigger the bug?
[04:33] <ubuntu_user_01> use xfs or jfs for large files and servers and ext3 or ext4 for your OS
[04:33] <Headtalk|> psycho and was being different , better?
[04:33] <jadakren> casemods, you might like to try installing flashplugin-nonfree
[04:34] <psycho_oreos> darolu, it was noted in the release notes.. even when I went about installing arch I noticed they documented ext4 is still new
[04:34] <sfstikkun> I am attempting to get to irc.starchat which i've used successfully for years.  tonight I'm computer is delivering a note that says " connected" but then it says its "lost connection.,  Anyone know what might be causing this failure?
[04:34] <casemods> jadakren: it says "could not find package "flash plugin installer"
[04:34] <jadakren> casemods, read what i posted above please.
[04:34] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, it ultimately depends on what you need at the end of the day, reiserfs iirc handles small files better, so if your linux setup was purely as mail daemon for example, reiserfs would boost the performance
[04:35] <jadakren> sfstikkun, someone on your lan is hogging the latency with torrents ?
[04:35] <casemods> what is "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[04:35] <casemods> jadakren:
[04:35] <Headtalk|> psycho_oreos if that is true, why is <ubuntu_user_01> saying resierfs is dead
[04:35] <ubuntu_user_01> jadakren...what version of ubuntu u using?
[04:35] <ubuntu_user_01> because resier went to jail
[04:36] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, its dead because the author is jailed, its offtopic and there's reiser4 which may supercede reiserfs
[04:36] <jadakren> casemods, 1) open a terminal : press alt + f2 2) type : gnome-terminal 3) in the new window type : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:36] <Headtalk|> author went to jail? wtf
[04:36] <Headtalk|> why did author went to jail
[04:36] <ubuntu_user_01> yea...offtopic reiser is dead for now
[04:36] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, google for Hans Reiser.. I'm not going to talk about it here
[04:36] <casemods> jadakren: where is terminal?
[04:36] <jadakren> !ot
[04:37] <jadakren> casemods, did you press alt and f2 together ?>
[04:37] <ubuntu_user_01> jadakren  go to applications accessories terminal
[04:37] <casemods> ok got it now
[04:37] <Headtalk|> even if author went to jail,  why would reserfs die?
[04:37] <ubuntu_user_01> because he was the lead architech and the community fell away after he went to jail
[04:37] <ub3rg33k> test
[04:37] <jadakren> Headtalk|, no idea but it has nothing to do with ubuntu support.
[04:38] <casemods> jadakren: "E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"
[04:38] <Headtalk|> psycho_oreos  is that mean  ext is better than resierfs  for bigger files?
[04:38] <jadakren> casemods, what does this reveal  : apt-cache search | grep flash
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, google is your friend, I'm not going to talk about it here when its all offtopic
[04:39] <jadakren> casemods, sorry i mean apt-cache search flash | grep plugin
[04:39] <Headtalk|> psycho why is it offtopic, we are talking about linux filesystem
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> because its not ubuntu support
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> period
[04:39] <Headtalk|> ok
[04:39] <casemods> nothing happens jad
[04:40] <casemods> jadakren:
[04:40] <sfstikkun> Jadakrelan, since I don't havea lan, I'm not sure how anyone can be hogging "the latecy with torrents)  Whats the next possible solution.
[04:41] <jadakren> sfstikkun, check your dns ? make sure that your gateway mac address is really the maccaddress of your gateway and not someone doign a mitm attack
[04:41] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: you probably want to ask to the mailing list as well.. i am curious if your raid will survive..
[04:41] <sfstikkun> Thanks
[04:42] <jadakren> sfstikkun, maybe reboot the router ... no idea. its a problem that requires lots of debug info i suppose before any realy suggestions can be given
[04:42] <darolu> psycho_oreos, all I found in Ubuntu 9.10 release notes about ext4 is that you have to manually install grub; I also found ext4 limit is 2^32 blocks but that's about it; I ask because I have a Ubuntu server and its HD's FS are ext4, it handles files of ~5GiB sometimes, should I worry about the bug you mentioned?
[04:42] <sobczyk> how to properly disable hdd power management, or set it to a higher value (ie. 200 instead of 128)?
[04:42] <jadakren> casemods, open software sources : system > admin > software sources
[04:43] <jadakren> casemods, viewing the "ubuntu software" tab, are the first four tickboxes ticked ?
[04:44] <ubuntu_user_01> darolu, i would def consider moving to a more mature FS such as XFS or JFS
[04:45] <casemods> jadakren: all 4 are ticked, and source code is not
[04:45] <linshine> anyone know how to fix gdm (login) screen fonts. mine are all squares. [][][][]
[04:45] <linshine> using lucid 10.04 beta1
[04:46] <jadakren> casemods, ok open synaptic package manager : system > admin > synaptics package manager
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> linshine: go to #ubuntu+1 for lucid/10.04 support
[04:46] <jadakren> !lucid | linshine
[04:46] <darolu> ubuntu_user_01, I used to have XFS but (at the time) I read ext4 had better performance so I tried it, do you know of any documentation regarding the bug psycho_oreos mentioned?
[04:46] <ranjan> How to clear squid cache???
[04:46] <ubuntu_user_01> axisys_: I check over in ubuntu-server and i think i have a solution...since my OS hdd isn't completely dead i am going to make a raid 1 with a new hdd then swap out the failing hdd
[04:47] <sfstikkun> I'll be back to get more questions answered later...must sleep, my hnead ison the keyboard. night...thanks
[04:47] <casemods> ok got it jadakren
[04:47] <jadakren> casemods, now search for flash
[04:48] <ranjan> please help....anyone who can help me in clearing the squid chache??
[04:48] <casemods> ok got it, thanks jadakren
[04:49] <jadakren> casemods, probem solved? flash working ?
[04:49] <ubuntu_user_01> darolu, the known bug has actually been fixed and backported to kernel 2.6.28 if you are using ubuntu
[04:49] <casemods> well its installing, ill check now
[04:49] <jadakren> casemods, make sure to restart the browser
[04:49] <ubuntu_user_01> however, it is still a new FS and depending on what you are using those disks for you prolly dont need the added performance that ext4 provides
[04:50] <darolu> ubuntu_user_01, OK, thank you.
[04:50] <ubuntu_user_01> you especially dont need the performance if it is a production machine...stability before speed always
[04:51] <sobczyk> in my ubuntu bluetooth stopped working, dmesg shows something about bluetooth but bluetooth settings shows o devices, how can I fix it?
[04:54] <MrPiracy_> i am stuck ... trying to install old grub from terminal, used dpkg -i but directory /boot/grub doesn't exist. what am i doing wrong?
[04:55] <sobczyk> MrPiracy_,  probably the package does not create /boot/grub
[04:55] <MrPiracy_> sobczyk: but it should, no?
[04:55] <Trek> MrPiracy_ you trying to install grub legacy?
[04:55] <sobczyk> it is arbitrary where you install grub
[04:55] <MrPiracy_> yes, the old grub
[04:56] <MrPiracy_> i uninstalled grub2
[04:56] <Trek> MrPiracy_ use supergrubdisk to install Grub Legacy
[04:56] <Trek> i think
[04:56] <Trek> it still works
[04:56] <sobczyk> just make the dir and follow one of the grub-install howtos
[04:56] <Trek> stupid enterbutton
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[04:56] <psycho_oreos> darolu, it was once noted in the 9.10 release notes: look at the info here for starters https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/404804
[04:56] <MrPiracy_> ok, it installed with no errors
[04:57] <MrPiracy_> but now i cant root to my partition from grub prompt
[04:58] <sobczyk> did you do grub-install?
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[05:00] <sircrazy> casemods, you should ask in here how to download thunderbird
[05:00] <casemods> i think i got it
[05:01] <sircrazy> lol
[05:02] <syk> when u do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:whatever/ppa" in terminal, how do i remove it/or edit it?
[05:03] <murlidhar> ~
[05:03] <Flannel> syk: /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:03] <Flannel> syk: (the latter means the files in that folder)
[05:03] <Flannel> syk: OR you should be able to do it via software properties
[05:04] <MrPiracy_> sobczyk: how do i run grub-intall? i dont even know where grub went to :(
[05:04] <BaseBallBoy> Hey guys
[05:04] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: there is an excellent how to in the community documentation about grub installation.
[05:04] <murlidhar> !grub2
[05:05] <sobczyk> MrPiracy_, the easiest is run some repair cd with the legacy grub, and run grub-install from there
[05:05] <BaseBallBoy> Quick question, can I get an estimated time/date that Ubuntu 10.04 will be ready?
[05:05] <trinikrono> april!
[05:05] <sobczyk> I agree the ubuntu grub howto is excellent
[05:05] <BaseBallBoy> trinikrono, your kidding?
[05:05] <Trek> !lucid | BaseBallBoy
[05:05] <chelz> BaseBallBoy: that's all on the release schedule. but it'll be around april 30th
[05:05] <chelz> that
[05:05] <Flannel> BaseBallBoy: April 29 (last Thursday in April)
[05:06] <sobczyk> MrPiracy_, the installation steps are almost the same if not identical to grub2
[05:06] <BaseBallBoy> thanks guys
[05:06] <Trek> BaseBallBoy, its in beta right now though
[05:06]  * BaseBallBoy can't wait
[05:06] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[05:06] <chelz> BaseBallBoy: the servers get really hard right around when big updates happen, so if you can it's good to wait a few weeks
[05:06] <chelz> also don't forget to always install updates after installing
[05:06] <BaseBallBoy> Yeah yeah, i know :P
[05:07] <Trek> BaseBallBoy, discuss how much you can't wait in either off-topic or #ubuntu+1 please
[05:07] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: if u want to reinstall grub ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[05:07] <Losha> Trek: thank you. I'm over 10.04 *already*...
[05:07] <mobidroid> Hi I have a ubuntu server running on a VPS, now the file system is corrupted and I'm really not used to retreive files from a corrupted fs... I runned fschk and it deleted most of the important files like /etc/init.d and /var/www/ (which is what i'm trying to retreive) is there a guide on how to ressurect files from a ubuntu server (without having access to the physical drive)
[05:07] <mobidroid> On a side note i would like to know how often corrupted filesystem is occuring?
[05:08] <murlidhar> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdX
[05:08] <murlidhar> is the simple command  : )
[05:08] <sircrazy> mobidroid, anywhere from once every 3 days to never
[05:08] <murlidhar> but the linux partition must be mounted first.
[05:08] <globus_> hello all, I got some thing need to ask guru here. It's about file system. When i use "mc" in console and traverse file system and move to some directory( different with current directory before I use mc). Then click F10 to exit mc but the directory now is not the directory which mc pointing to, that's the directory before I use mc. Anybody know how to keep current directory is the place when I exit "mc" ? Thanks !
[05:08] <murlidhar> !support globus_
[05:09] <murlidhar> errr
[05:09] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: i just installed karmic, it comes with grub2 so i uninstalled it and am now trying to install grub legacy to it
[05:09] <Trek> lol murlidhar
[05:09] <murlidhar> !support > globus_
[05:09] <murlidhar> :)
[05:09] <mobidroid> sircrazy: I knew i should backup a bit, but damn
[05:09] <sircrazy> mobidroid, chances are you wont have corruption
[05:09] <HexRex> Is there anything as good as notepad++ for linux?
[05:09] <sircrazy> but i backup once a week
[05:09] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: is it on apt-get
[05:09] <MrPiracy_> ?
[05:09] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: oh ... i thought you were trying to reinstall the grub
[05:09] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: yes it is.
[05:09] <HexRex> emacs sucks
[05:10] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: for karmic?
[05:10] <barcode> how do i get my ubuntu menu back :(
[05:10] <murlidhar> !info grub | MrPiracy_
[05:10] <mobidroid> sircrazy: well now i have and I dont find much stuff on the net about what to do now :( I asked the image of the vps to the hosting cie maybe they will kindly reject my request :(
[05:10] <murlidhar> !info grub2 | MrPiracy_
[05:10] <mobidroid> sircrazy: is fschk the only thing in order to fix files?!
[05:11] <Losha> mobidroid: all the really serious file recovery programs I'm aware of assume you have access to the raw block device for the drive. I dunno how much you can achieve on a VPS filesystem. Are there no backups?
[05:11] <sircrazy> mobidroid, basically
[05:11] <sircrazy> there are some other apps that claim able to repair filesystems
[05:11] <sircrazy> but idk much about them
[05:11] <murlidhar> hmm
[05:11] <murlidhar> !info grub-legacy
[05:11] <murlidhar> hmm
[05:11] <sircrazy> !info grub
[05:11] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: well, i think i all need is to figure out how to install this .deb from the terminal now
[05:11] <mobidroid> Losha: nope :(
[05:12] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: sudo dpkg -i .......... .deb ?
[05:12] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: i mean, it installed cos i can get into it's prompt if i type "grub", but i have no idea where it went to
[05:12] <mobidroid> Losha: well no backup that I made, maybe they backup image on there side it would be great
[05:12] <ae86-drifter> why has so many people switch to debian from ubuntu?
[05:12] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: well you should consider going to #ubuntu .. for help .
[05:13] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: i am not so sure how it can be done.
[05:13] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: that is where i am ;)
[05:13] <murlidhar> :)
[05:13] <murlidhar> good.
[05:13] <Losha> mobidroid: meanwhile, browse https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery and see if any of that applies...
[05:13] <ae86-drifter> murlidhar, is this not #ubuntu?
[05:13] <murlidhar> keep trying. you might find the answer else .
[05:13] <mobidroid> Losha: k thx
[05:13] <ae86-drifter> try !#ubuntu
[05:13] <Flannel> HexRex: Try SciTE
[05:13] <chelz> MrPiracy_: sudo apt-get install --reconfigure grub2- grub
[05:14] <harish> Hi everyone..i am upgrading from ubuntu 32bit to ubuntu 64bit
[05:14] <ae86-drifter> try sudo rm -rf /
[05:14] <Flannel> HexRex: (SCiTE is what notepad++ is based off of)
[05:14] <mobidroid> I'm thats a bad start: Shut down the affected machine as soon as possible, and restart it from a LiveCD or LiveUSB. Be certain that the "live" cd does not automatically mount any partition or swap space.
[05:14] <Flannel> !danger
[05:14] <chelz> harish: doesn't work like that
[05:14] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i dont want grub2
[05:14] <chelz> MrPiracy_: if you copy exactly what i typed, it removes it
[05:14] <MrPiracy_> chelz: ohhh, ok
[05:14] <chelz> wait
[05:15] <chelz> MrPiracy_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2- grub
[05:15] <chelz> rather
[05:15] <harish> iam trying to overwrite 32bit version with 64bit version
[05:15] <harish> i prepared a live usb stick for that but i am getting boot error
[05:16] <harish> need help
[05:16] <Losha> harish: how much RAM do you have?
[05:16] <deathtech> Hello all ! I have installed 9.10 on a Dell Mini (1010) , and im trying to get a MadCatz Xbox 360 controller to function. In every port i plug the device into, it blinks continuosly, and a lsusb seems to make it show up as a device named "Harmonix Music" . This is a gamepad, however, and im a bit confused.
[05:16] <harish> 4gb
[05:16] <syk> harish, what kind of boot error?
[05:16] <harish> as soon as i restart the system, it says boot error
[05:16] <MrPiracy_> chelz: it said "reinstallation of grub is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
[05:16] <harish> i press any key, it takes to to the existing ubuntu 32bit
[05:17] <chelz> MrPiracy_: what happend with your apt?
[05:17] <Losha> harish: it's barely worth upgrading to 64 bit then, for only 4G RAM. Any speedup you might see you'll pay for in reduced stability...
[05:17] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i dont know, i booted from live cd and i'm online, browser works
[05:17] <chelz> harish: upgrading doesn't work too well. doing a bit change is done by a new install
[05:17] <harish> my system is 64bit
[05:18] <harish> so, i want to use 64bit
[05:18] <chelz> harish: yeah do a fresh install
[05:18] <harish> i copied the 64bit iso and made live usb out of it
[05:18] <harish> but i am not able to replace it with the existing 32bit
[05:18] <chelz> harish: liveusb how?
[05:19] <harish> i used unetbootin
[05:19] <chelz> harish: do manual partitioning and format over your old 32bit, after you backup your data
[05:19] <deathtech> Anyone have any experience with using a 360 controller on 9.10 ?
[05:19] <harish> chelz, i have all the data backed up
[05:19] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i have downloaded the .deb for grub 0.97, how can i get it installed from it?
[05:19] <harish> i have no other operating system
[05:20] <chelz> MrPiracy_: system -> administration -> software sources -> Download from -> other -> click get best server
[05:21] <abhi_nav> I am planning to use my current hdd (on which this ubuntu 9.04 is installed) to use as backup disk and to have fresh install of ubuntu on new hdd. Which is the better way to proced? 1. Install 9.04 on new disk and then upgrade to 9.10 2. do fresh installation of 9.10 on new hdd 3. upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 4. upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 5. Should I use 9.04 itself till the end of its life? or upgrade it to 9.10 and/or 10.04?
[05:21] <chelz> harish: in an ubuntu livecd open up partition editor and go to Device -> Create Partition Table
[05:21] <abhi_nav> Thanx for reading this big question
[05:21] <Losha> MrPiracy_: http://brettshaffer.com/blog/linux/downgrade-grub-2/   If it goes wrong, you didn't hear it from me...
[05:22] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i am chroot to my hd karmic partition, would that be the problem apt-get is not working?
[05:22] <chelz> MrPiracy_: ah yeah that could be it, you need to copy your resolv.conf
[05:22] <harish> chelz i dont have a live cd...can i do it with usb live?
[05:22] <chelz> harish: yeah
[05:22] <deathtech> Caveman mode ACTIVATE ! :D "Why for it so hard to get 360 controller to work in 9.10"
[05:22] <trinikrono> abhi_nav: use 9.04 till 10 comes out
[05:23] <tots> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and have set up my machine to for LAMP. However I notice that the PHP package in the package manager is for v5.2.10 which was released last June, the newest stable version is 5.3.2. is it possible to get a package for the newer version, and if do where can I find one?
[05:23] <chelz> MrPiracy_: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mounteddrivepoint/etc/
[05:23] <Guest18520> hi people, i have troubles in my ubuntu 9.10. When i install the ATI`s video driver with EnvyNG , my ubuntu only starts by text mode
[05:23] <abhi_nav> trinikrono: hmmm
[05:24] <bigtom21485> i have no way of syncing my ipod with my library on my computer.
[05:24] <chelz> bigtom21485: lucid with be a lot better at that with rhythmbox
[05:24] <harish> chelz, please provide all the steps..i will not be having power in another 5minutes....i can copy the steps and save them
[05:25] <abhi_nav> trinikrono: and then should I upgrade to 10.04 via 9.10?
[05:25] <Guest18520> someone can help me?
[05:25] <chelz> harish: go to gparted aka Partition Editor, in it go to the Device menu, then click Create Partition Table and click "create" (only do this if you're sure you've backed up all data on the drive)
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:25] <chelz> harish: then do the ubuntu install normally
[05:25] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i ctrl+d to go back to live cd root, copied resolv.conf, chroot back to hd partition and typed "sudo apt-get --reinstall grub" ... then i got "unable to resolve ubuntu host"
[05:26] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: I am planning to use my current hdd (on which this ubuntu 9.04 is installed) to use as backup disk and to have fresh install of ubuntu on new hdd. Which is the better way to proced? 1. Install 9.04 on new disk and then upgrade to 9.10 2. do fresh installation of 9.10 on new hdd 3. upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 4. upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 5. Should I use 9.04 itself till the end of its life? or upgrade it to 9.10
[05:26] <abhi_nav>  and/or 10.04? Thanx for reading this big question
[05:26] <bigtom21485> rhythmbox
[05:26] <bigtom21485> rkythmbox wont copy between the two
[05:26] <MrPiracy_> Losha: i tried that too, but apt-get is not working from live-cd
[05:26] <harish> thanks chelz, i will try it out and hopefully it works...if not, i will come back to you
[05:27] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: trinikrono recommended to use 9.04 untill 10.04 comes out
[05:27] <Guest18520> someone can help me?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: if you clean install use 9.10 unless you are ok with fixing bugs then use 10.04
[05:27] <abhi_nav> !someone | Guest18520
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: i wouldnt bother with 9.04 and 9.10 is stable
[05:27] <chelz> abhi_nav: 3
[05:27] <zus> does anyone use pidgin and the facebook app?
[05:28] <abhi_nav> chelz: 3? what is 3?
[05:28] <chelz> abhi_nav: number 3 in your options
[05:28] <zus> i either get disconnected constantly or get that stupid cptcha
[05:28] <AbortD> i use pidgin
[05:28] <abhi_nav> chelz: ohhh I see
[05:28] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip yes clean install
[05:28] <Guest18520> hi people, i have troubles in my ubuntu 9.10. When i install the ATI`s video driver with EnvyNG , my ubuntu only starts by text mode
[05:29] <chelz> MrPiracy_: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=42e872ca38dd7eb8e35c0f2883dde445&p=7258942&postcount=1
[05:29] <AbortD> Guest18520, when its in text mode login and type startx and see what the error is it should list it
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: go for 9.10 then
[05:30] <Guest18520> ubottu , I had already asked before
[05:30] <SolarisBoy> is there a seperate shortcut in compiz like task switcher but one that show tasks in all workspaces?
[05:30] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok. thank you.
[05:30] <bigtom21485> ubottu: lol u do pretty well my friend
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: ps -ef | grep processname   will show all processes on the system
[05:31] <abhi_nav> ubottu is not that much intelligent,
[05:31] <abhi_nav> yah see?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> !coffee | ubottu
[05:31] <abhi_nav> haa haa haa
[05:31] <abhi_nav> she dont know about coffeee!!!!
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> she used to know coffee
[05:31] <abhi_nav> now she only drink tea, I think
[05:31] <Trek> !tea | ubottu
[05:31] <danzig> I think the bot is smarter than most in here :)
[05:31] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: right im aware of this
[05:32] <harish> chelz, i get this error while trying to download gparted through synaptic package manager W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dmraid/libdmraid1.0.0.rc15_1.0.0.rc15-11ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:32] <harish>   Could not resolve 'in.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:32] <abhi_nav> haa hah ahaa
[05:32] <Losha> oh, do stop rambling...
[05:32] <MrPiracy_> chelz: just did it ... same thing :(
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: if you want something that shows all the workspaces then i's ask in #compiz
[05:32] <Trek> harish: the site you tried to get it from wasnt resolved, means doesnt exist or its ofline
[05:33] <harish> trek, thanks
[05:34] <abhi_nav> Trek :D
[05:34] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: :D
[05:34] <MrPiracy_> chelz: ok, now i removed grub by "apt-get remove grub"
[05:35] <MrPiracy_> chelz: but when i try to run "apt-get install grub" it says pakcage grub has no installatino candidate
[05:35] <abhi_nav> !grub
[05:36] <Trek> abhi_nav, huh>?
[05:36] <abhi_nav> Trek: tea
[05:36] <Trek> !tea > abhi_nav
[05:36] <abhi_nav> Trek: yah
[05:37] <tots> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and have set up my machine to for LAMP. However I notice that the PHP package in the package manager is for v5.2.10 which was released last June, the newest stable version is 5.3.2. is it possible to get a package for the newer version, and if do where can I find one?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> tots: find a deb or ppa
[05:38] <bullgard> ~/.gvfs is empty. Who does fill it?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: it gets populated when you mount usb stuffs
[05:38] <carmony> on ubuntu server, how can I see what interfaces I have available to setup?
[05:38] <tots> ActionParsnip, where does one find these?
[05:38] <Trek> !server | carmony
[05:38] <carmony> Trek: thanks
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> tots: online duder, do you need fuunctionality in 5.3.2 which sint in 5.2.10?
[05:39] <Trek> carmony: yup
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> s/sint/isn't
[05:39] <tots> ActionParsnip, I want to file a bug report but need to make sure I am at least on the latest stable release of 5.3 or 5.2
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tots: cool, then if you use the ppa search you may find someone who has compiled it
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tots: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[05:40] <tots> ActionParsnip, thanks. That's just what i was going to ask :)
[05:41] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: I do not believe you: lsusb shows that there is connected a webcam. Still, ~/.gvfs is empty.
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: gvfs is for block devices, webcams won't show in there
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: use the 8 character hex ID for the cam in lsusb o find guides
[05:43] <bigtom21485> someone help me add banshee ppa
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: sudo add-apt-repository ppa://link; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <MrPiracy_> chelz: u there?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: the ppa://link will replaced by the address on the ppa site
[05:44] <ddrj> where is this directory? Extract it to the ~/.xbmc/plugins/programs directory.
[05:44] <ddrj> i checked / and /usr but i can't find anything with a .xbmc
[05:45] <jussi01> ddrj: ~/ is your home dir
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: gvfs is for when you plug in USB hard drives and SD cards
[05:45] <ddrj> ahhh thanks jussi01 checking
[05:45] <jussi01> ddrj: an a .folder is hidden, so you need to turn on view hidden files
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: webcams do not contain any storage so you will not see any entries ni there, yuo will also not see an entry if you attach a usb set of headphones
[05:46] <ddrj> ahhh no wonder
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: the 8 character hex id identifies the chip the webcam uses which is what you need to drive so websearching for the IS will find you guides
[05:47] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by "IS"?
[05:48] <bigtom21485> ActionParsnip: how do i enable my laptop's built-in webcam for use in linux?
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: run: lsusb   in a terminal, you will see an 8 character hex id. use that in websearches. Check is isnt already detected by running cheese and seeing if you acn see yourself
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: which sentance are you on about, i used is in 2
[05:49] <bigtom21485> ActionParsnip it didnt install Banshee
[05:50] <bigtom21485> *ActionParsnip: it didnt install Banshee
[05:50] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: "[06:46]	<ActionParsnip>	bullgard: the 8 character hex id identifies the chip the webcam uses which is what you need to drive so websearching for the IS will find you guides"
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: then you have an equal or later version installed
[05:51] <lars_> hey im trying to play a movie through totem and its giving me an error it says"could not open location;you might not have permission to open file" how do i fix this?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: sorry, is what will find you guys (on hour 10 of a 12 hour shift)
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> lars_: is it on a network share?
[05:51] <bigtom21485> ActionParsnip: its not in any of my menus
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: sudo apt-get install banshee   then
[05:52] <lars_> ActionParsnip: i dont know...how do i set it up...steps?
[05:52] <nickstr1988> I have a really annoying sound issue here
[05:52] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: The time given is GMT +1.
[05:53] <nickstr1988> continuous popping sounds from a Conexant based HD sound card in Ubuntu 9.10
[05:53] <zus> can some one help me get the facebook plug in working on pidgin please if youse dont mind?
[05:54] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Can somebody recommend an audacity replacement?  It's stalling on me ever since 8.10>9.04 upgrade.
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> lars_: no, its a question. Is the file on yuor PC or on a network share on another pc?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: GMT here dude, Leesd West Yorkshire, UK
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Leeds sorry
[05:54] <oildrum> if I changed the timezone of a very important server, what is the best way to figure out what all services need to be restarted?
[05:55] <dsnyders> oildrum, I take it the server cannot be rebooted?
[05:56] <Flannel> oildrum: Your timezone is a user thing not a systemwide thing
[05:56] <nickstr1988> this is the most annoying sound issue ever, it only happened after installing 9.10
[05:57] <lars_> ActionParship: um no the dvd file is on my computer so its not on network share...whenever i try to mount the file onto the movie player that error comes up
[05:58] <abhi_nav> hi m back
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> lars_: is it a video dvd or a data dvd with random content on it?
[05:59] <harish> i am trying to install ubuntu 64bit..i already have 32bit operating..i would like to copy all the propreitory drivers for use in 64bit
[06:00] <harish> i get error no permission error while copying
[06:00] <harish> any help
[06:00] <paco_the_taco> harish
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> harish: that wont work, the drivers are 32bit. you will need to download the 64bit drivers
[06:00] <paco_the_taco> i think your gonna have to re-install anything
[06:00] <harish> ActionParsnip, thanks
[06:01] <annihilus> anyone have any suggestions for creating limited user accounts on a server?  Dont want the users trying to fork bomb or something.
[06:01] <abhi_nav> how to know if my system if 32 bit? wll 64 bit os install on my 32 bit computer? this 32 bit or 64 bit this is processor or what?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> annihilus: keep their group memberships minimal
[06:01] <lars_> ActionParship: its a video dvd its not pirated or anything got it from the store
[06:01] <Trek> abhi_nav, do you have a 64bit processor?
[06:01] <abhi_nav> Trek: how to know that?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: uname -a | grep i686    if you get an output its 32bit, if not then its 64bit
[06:02] <darolu> abhi_nav, a 64-bit OS won't work on a 32-bit system; what kind of processor do you have?
[06:02] <annihilus> ActionParsnip, yeah i plan to keep their group as users and lock down their /home
[06:02] <Trek> if you dont know, assume you have a 32-bit operating system, it works on everything (almost)
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: that is the architecture of the OS
[06:02] <abhi_nav> darolu: & ActionParsnip: Linux abhi-laptop 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> annihilus: i believe theres a way to quota cpu usage per user but not sure
[06:03] <abhi_nav> darolu: & ActionParsnip: thats the output of uname -a | grep i686
[06:03] <abhi_nav> Trek: Linux abhi-laptop 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:03] <darolu> abhi_nav, run this in a terminal: lshw | grep width
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: if you run: cat /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 20     you can websearch for your CPU model to see if its 64bit
[06:03] <Trek> abhi_nav, you have 32bit
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: ok your ubuntu install is 32bit, but you can run a 32bit OS on a 64bit CPU (mostly)
[06:04] <zus> how can i reinstall the grub? i reisnstalled my 9.10 gnome, and now i have no grub....
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | zus
[06:04] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: this is output of lshw | grep width : http://paste.ubuntu.com/399129/
[06:04] <zus> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[06:05] <londei_a> COUCOU LES GENS , ÇA VA BIEN LES GENS ALORS ?? G UN PROBLEM AVEC MON IMPRIMANTE
[06:05] <edinho> Hi all
[06:05] <darolu> uname -a prints the OS info, a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit machine will still print i686
[06:05] <lars_> ActionParship: no its a DVD video
[06:06] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: this is output of cat /proc/cupinfo | head -n 20 http://paste.ubuntu.com/399130/
[06:06] <zus> further more i seem to not be able to decrypt my encrypted email...i had saved my pgp key, and pasted it once the new install was done.
[06:06] <Losha> !fr | londei_a
[06:06] <darolu> abhi_nav, seems like you have 64-bit system
[06:06] <budah> iv seen someone running conky in terminal ? am i mistaken or
[06:06] <darolu> abhi_nav, cupinfo says double core, you def. have 64-bit
[06:06] <abhi_nav> darolu: then should I install 9.10 64 bit?
[06:07] <darolu> abhi_nav, yes
[06:07] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: is it that 64 systems have less no. of apps or less no. of driver support etc?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: T5750 is 64bit
[06:07] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: hmm
[06:08] <edinho> http://www.mozilla-enigmail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=674
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: 64bit is very supported, some companys dont make 64bit but a large majority do (some games only come in 32bit flavour from what ive seen)
[06:08] <darolu> abhi_nav, yes there are more apps for 32-bit systems, but 32-bit apps can run on 64-bits systems
[06:08] <edinho> http://www.mozilla-enigmail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=674
[06:09] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: ohh ok. so e.g. If i only have a aps or game of 32 bit then i can easily run it on my 64 bit 9.10?
[06:09] <darolu> abhi_nav, as ActionParsnip said, most apps, libraries and drivers support 64-bit, if you don't run anything out of the common apps you should not have any problem at all.
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: should be fnie yes, you will most likely find that all apps are 64bit available (unless you get real unlucky)
[06:09] <abhi_nav> darolu: ok
[06:10] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ohhhh hmmm :D
[06:10] <abhi_nav> darolu: :D
[06:10] <Losha> budah: I don't think conky runs in a terminal. Most of the info it provides can be displayed via a terminal though...
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> theres an awesmoe mech warrior game which is 32bit only ut i managed to get it going using ia32-libs ;)
[06:10] <darolu> abhi_nav, yes it is relatively easy, the most complex procedure I have encounter is to install 32-bit libraries and symbolic-link to them
[06:10] <abhi_nav> darolu: hmm
[06:11] <darolu> abhi_nav, it was simple, I simply installed the 32-bit libraries and told the program where to look for them; it was epsxe (play station emulator) if you are wondering :)
[06:11] <abhi_nav> darolu: hmm :D thank you!
[06:12] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: Thank you!
[06:12] <darolu> np
[06:12] <zus> alright i got a command not found when  i type in the sudo apt-get install grub2.
[06:13] <edinho> Someone come to the international forum of free software 11.0?
[06:13] <abhi_nav> !ext4
[06:13] <harish> i have downloaded gparted and placed on my desktop..how do i install it
[06:13] <abhi_nav> she dont know ext4 :-(
[06:13] <harish> i am not able to install through synaptic package manager
[06:14] <AbortD> harish what file type is it
[06:14] <harish> .zip
[06:14] <AbortD> unzip it first
[06:15] <harish> i have extracted all the files and placed it on my desktop
[06:15] <AbortD> what are the files
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> harish: you dont have to download gparted, its on the repo
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> harish: sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> !info gparted
[06:15] <zus> i tried to install a fresh 9.10. somehow the hdd was not reading the disc properly and the  os wasnt loading. and i was getting a grub loading unknown file system grub rescue>_ so i un hooded all my drives and installed gnome 9.10 on the one... now im abled to mount my drives but i can not choose  1 linux gnome 9.10 (another -)2linux 9.10 and 3 windows.... i was abled to last night b4 reinstall.
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> harish: if you have an install CD you can add it as a repo and install that way
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> harish: or even boot to the liveCD and use gparted there
[06:17] <harish> ActionParsnip, many thanks, it got installed through terminal
[06:17] <edinho> install grub 2 instead of legacy
[06:17] <edinho> at the master disk
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> harish: in ubuntu its rare to actually download apps, most stuff is installed vi the official repos or by adding extra repos
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> harish: same with java and flash etc
[06:20] <harish> ActionParsnip, i am actually trying to install ubtuntu 64bit, i am currently using 32bit
[06:20] <harish> my system has 64bit processor
[06:20] <harish> i am not able to do the installation through live usb stick
[06:21] <harish> chelz suggested to do it through gparted
[06:21] <harish> how do i do that
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> harish: then boot to the install cd, wipe out the 32bit install (after backing up your stuff) and install a clean 64bit OS
[06:21] <harish> i have it on live usb, i changed the boot settings in bios to boot from live usb
[06:22] <harish> but i am getting "boot error"
[06:22] <harish> any key i press, it takes me to the existing 32bit
[06:22] <abhi_nav> where is the download location for 9.10 64 bit ? becuase on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt there is amd64 or intel i386. but my processor is intel core 2 duo T5750 2.0GH
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> harish: did you MD5 test the ISO you used to make the USB bootable with?
[06:22] <harish> i have intel core 2 quadro
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !getubuntu
[06:23] <abhi_nav> ?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !download
[06:23] <abhi_nav> harish: what is quadro?
[06:23] <abhi_nav> !torrents
[06:24] <abhi_nav> but its 32 bit
[06:24] <abhi_nav> i want 64 bit
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[06:25] <Damascene> hello, is swfdec working in ubuntu?
[06:25] <tehbaut> is there a way to make an existing install back into a livecd?
[06:25] <abhi_nav> so does amd64 includes intel core 2 duo t5750?
[06:25] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip ^^
[06:26] <psycho_oreos> you'd probably should be looking at x86_64 builds for 64bit
[06:27] <Rave1> tehbaut,  yes  remastersys
[06:27] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: lots of confusion with 64 bit. no clear path for 64 bit torrent download :-(
[06:27] <tehbaut> thanks Rave1
[06:27] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav, though its not a real necessity imo to have 64bit when i386 should work globally
[06:28] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 and at login my entire plasma workspace craShes. Nothing but a black desktop
[06:28] <Rave1> tehbaut, YW
[06:28] <harish> ActionParsnip, i guess, the amd64 bit will work for intel also....it says "core" in the brackets
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: the 64bit torrent is on the page i gave you too
[06:28] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: I thought that 64 bit wll be much faster. thats why I am looking for 64 bit..........
[06:28] <alexbobp> I used adept to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10.  Now my computer doesn't boot... it seems the upgrade broke full disk encryption
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> harish: yes, amd64 wil will on intel64 too
[06:28] <alexbobp> does anybody know how to fix this?
[06:28] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: yah I found!!!
[06:28] <corigo> Abhi amd and intel distros synonymos
[06:29] <harish> but i am not able to install it....
[06:29] <harish> i burned on my usb
[06:29] <harish> it is not working through usb stick
[06:29] <psycho_oreos> via unetbootin?
[06:29] <darolu> The term is most likely to change from AMD64 to X_64
[06:29] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: yah
[06:29] <abhi_nav> corigo: hmm
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> harish: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[06:30] <abhi_nav> darolu: yah exactly!
[06:30] <budah> iv seen someone running conky in terminal can this be done or?
[06:30] <harish> ActionParsnip, i dont have windows in my system
[06:30] <airtonix> corigo, have you discussed this in #kubuntu yet ?
[06:30] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav, well if amd64 doesn't work on your intel 64bit then get x86_64, simple as that
[06:30] <harish> i just have ubuntu 32bit which i want to replace with 64bit
[06:30] <harish> i used unetbootin to make the live usb
[06:30] <corigo> Oops, on my droid, and forgot what channel
[06:31] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: there is nothing called x86_64 on that download page :-(
[06:31] <poagester> i am becoming extremely frustrated with installing ubuntu. no matter what I do I get the same error. The error is as follows: Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. why?
[06:31] <Scotie> Hallo help
[06:31] <darolu> harish, use the USB pendrive creator under System - Admin
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> !help | Scotie
[06:32] <Losha> poagester: even with 8.04 ?
[06:32] <harish> darolu, i will try that now
[06:32] <ranjan> abhi_nav, what happened??
[06:32] <poagester> Losha: yes
[06:32] <darolu> abhi_nav, AMD64 = x86_64, different ways to call the same thing
[06:32] <nicholas1988> I need help correcting the Conexant audio bug
[06:32] <Scotie> After upgrade i miss my funtion on the corner of the windows program s
[06:32] <Scotie> function
[06:33] <nicholas1988> my speakers are emitting an annoying popping sound which never ceases
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Scotie: do you mean the top bar with the name / close / minimise etc?
[06:33] <abhi_nav> ranjan: firs of all I am confused between 32 or 64 bit ? I want fast speed so thinkin for 64 bit. but then after lots of strugl now I found locatin for 64 bit 9.10 torrent download
[06:33] <Scotie> someone a idea
[06:33] <Losha> poagester: you could try unetbootin, I suppose. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ It's supposed to allow a cd-less install...
[06:33] <abhi_nav> ranjan: you have any suggestion for 32 or 64? I want speed
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: 64bit will only give speed in certain cases
[06:34] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: only certain means? not always? I want always
[06:34] <ranjan> abhi_nav, first of all you should know whether your processor supports 64bit
[06:34] <abhi_nav> ranjan: yes it is
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: for standard desktop stuff there will be no speed increase, if you do lots of music encoding, dvd encoding then it is advantageous
[06:34] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 and my plasma workspace is crashing! Nothing but a black desktop
[06:34] <Scotie> programs need to 64 bits too
[06:34] <Scotie> support
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> corigo: i'd ask in #kubuntu
[06:34] <harish> darolu, i get this error while trying to format the usb stick "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found"
[06:34] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok then go for 64bit..but i dont think a great speed difference will be there
[06:34] <abhi_nav> ranjan: we were just discussing that only. and conclude that my intel centrino core 2 duo T5750 2.0GH is 64 bi
[06:34] <abhi_nav> t
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: 64bit isnt twice as fast
[06:35] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ohh I see
[06:35] <poagester> Losha: the name is a little misleading ;-)
[06:35] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok.. but why you are going for 64bit??
[06:35] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: why? Theoritically it should be naa?
[06:35] <Losha> poagester: I suppose it is...
[06:35] <harish> ActionParsnip, i get this error error while trying to format usb stick "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found"
[06:35] <darolu> harish, use GParted to format your USB pendrive, if you don't have it install it via software centre or with apt-get install gparted
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: no, its just a larger adressing range for ram
[06:35] <abhi_nav> ranjan: speed
[06:35] <ranjan> abhi_nav, do you feel 32 bit is slow...?? is the applications running thats slow are the boot time
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: and larger data registers in the cpu
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ranjan: tooooooooooo slow :-(
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: i think you need to read on what 64bit actually means
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:36] <ranjan> abhi_nav, you are using which version of ubuntu??
[06:36] <poagester> Losha: so i could take the drive that i want it installed to out of the other box and use unetbootin to install ubuntu on it right
[06:36] <Losha> abhi_nav: perhaps I should have said more when I told you it would be hardly worth upgrading...
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok I read. where? I google it?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: its an option
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ranjan: 9.04 32 bit
[06:37] <roberj13> Finally done banging my head against the wall getting sound running on my hp dv6
[06:37] <poagester> then install grub on hd0
[06:37] <darolu> abhi_nav, with 64-bit system you will use your dual-core processor, right now with 32-bit OS you are wasting a lot of power; is like having a 8-lanes highway with 6 lanes blocked.
[06:37] <abhi_nav> Losha: means? Please tell me more?
[06:37] <nicholas1988> rober, what did you do
[06:37] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: hmm
[06:37] <nicholas1988> I am in desperate need of help here
[06:37] <abhi_nav> darolu: :D
[06:37] <harish> darolu, i have gparted, how do i recognize my usb in gparted
[06:37] <roberj13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7299632&postcount=60
[06:37] <nicholas1988> I have a Conexant sound card giving me a popping nose which never ceases
[06:37] <roberj13> worked like a charm
[06:37] <darolu> abhi_nav, enabling all 8-lanes won't rise the speed limit, but more cars will be able to run; same thing happens with your system
[06:37] <roberj13> drums scared the hell out of me i haven't heard sound in so long
[06:38] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok...just check your system monitor whether its using the full resources...
[06:38] <airtonix>  /msg ubottu test
[06:38] <abhi_nav> darolu: ohhh ok
[06:38] <Losha> poagester: yes, you could. Or you theoretically install ubuntu onto a disk using a windows box...
[06:38] <darolu> harish, on the top-right corner you can select the device, if it is not listed unplug it and plug it back
[06:38] <ranjan> abhi_nav, i heard that there was some bug which used the full processing power on fresh installation
[06:39] <abhi_nav> ranjan: cup1 11% cpu220% memory: 400mb swap: 360 mb (all values approximate)
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> roberj13: i uninstall those sounds, very annoying imho
[06:39] <poagester> Losha: I don't always think of the easy ways, thanx
[06:39] <harish> darolu, i selected the device,how do i format it...there is no format option in gparted?
[06:40] <harish> darolu, i found it
[06:40] <Losha> poagester: I have made a virtue out of being lazy...
[06:40] <roberj13> ActionParsnip, I'm just glad I can finally 'hear' something. I could see how that would get annoying.
[06:40] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok'
[06:40] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ranjan: darolu:  ok can I upgrade form 32 bit to 64 bit in future?
[06:40] <darolu> abhi_nav, 64-bit OS doesn't make the system faster per-se, but you get better performance, i.e. I use audio converter apps, with 32-bit it takes 30 secs to convert a ogg to mp3, with 64-bits it takes the same 30 secs... but I can convert 4 songs at the same time vs 1 at at a time with 32-bit os/app :)
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: no, you have to re-install
[06:41] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:41] <darolu> harish, yeah just right click on the partition you want to format, remember to click the green mark on top to apply changes
[06:41] <abhi_nav> darolu: hmmm
[06:41] <cubuntu> Jimmy Page
[06:41] <harish> darolu, i have done that...thanks
[06:41] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ranjan: darolu:  So now I am going for 64 bit. Thank all of you!!!
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: any time
[06:41] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok..great..
[06:42] <ranjan> anybody aware of the HAL removal in Lucid
[06:42] <roberj13> hrm, decided for no 64 bit, but can't remember why. Oh well, seems fast enough for now
[06:42] <ShadeS> i'm afraid i ca'nt allow you to do that ranjan
[06:42] <abhi_nav> hmm
[06:42] <darolu> ranjan, yeah I read about it, I don't know how they are replacing it though
[06:43] <nicholas1988> its taking a long time to build but this might work, I downloaded the latest stable version of ALSA
[06:43] <ranjan> darolu, yes..but the booting is really faster..
[06:43] <cubuntu> hi
[06:43] <roberj13> How do I force close something that is hung up?
[06:43] <ranjan> darolu, i tested it and it takes just 12 seconds to boot
[06:43] <harish> darolu, usb startup disk creator is in the process....i have a question meanwhile
[06:43] <darolu> harish, don't ask to ask a question just ask =)
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> roberj13: xkill if its a gui based app, or killall in cli for both daemons and gui apps
[06:44] <harish> can i replace the 32bit with 64bit staying inside the 32bit
[06:44] <harish> :)
[06:44] <abhi_nav> roberj13 add force icon to your gnome panel. then if your aps hangs then you click on this icon and then click on hanged aps and then that aps forcefully closed
[06:45] <ranjan> harish, no..you cant..coz the whole system will be build for the present architecture whether 64 or 32
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> harish: nope, clean install only i'm afraid
[06:45] <darolu> harish, I don't know of any method to do that; the closer thing I know, is to install a server-kernel, it helps when you have more that 3GB of RAM for example
[06:45] <letusgothen> Gñardlings
[06:45] <roberj13> abhi_nav, that worked, thanks, let's try this again
[06:46] <abhi_nav> roberj13 hmm :)
[06:46] <corigo> In 64 you can run 32 with backports, but not the reverse
[06:46] <abhi_nav> corigo: ahh ok
[06:46] <tehbaut> can I use the command "grub-install /dev/sda" if the /dev/sda disk has no linux install on it?
[06:46] <harish> i hope this time the clean install will work from usb
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> harish: as long as the image you dowloaded tested as ok and you mae it right it will work
[06:47] <darolu> yes, it is important to run md5sum check to iso files, always.
[06:48] <harish> ActionParsnip, i downloaded the image through direct download
[06:48] <harish> darolu, do i still test it
[06:48] <harish> i dont know anything about md5sum test
[06:48] <tehbaut> how do I install grub onto a disk without an ubuntu partition? grub is asking for a device for /boot/grub
[06:48] <tehbaut> should I put it on the windows partition?
[06:49] <darolu> harish, it is recommended to md5sum check everything, specially OS iso files
[06:49] <harish> darolu, how do i do that
[06:49] <darolu> harish, open a terminal and run "md5sum <yourfile>"
[06:49] <harish> darolu, ok
[06:49] <roberj13> today I finally broke myself of the windows pacifier and removed it from my computer :)
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> harish: doesnt matter, it still neds md5 testing
[06:50] <ardchoille> roberj13: yay!
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | harish
[06:50] <darolu> harish, it will print a large code, compare it to the ubuntu hashes, I'll link you in a moment
[06:50] <abhi_nav> roberj13  :)
[06:50] <afsal> hello can any1 help me connecting my modem i am new to ubuntu
[06:50] <darolu> harish, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[06:50] <trinikrono> afsal: what kinda modem
[06:50] <roberj13> I was booting it less and less often, until I realized there's nothing on there that I do that I need it for, except sound which I just fixed
[06:50] <afsal> its wll wireless phone
[06:51] <trinikrono> afsal: a what?
[06:51] <afsal> usb modem
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> roberj13: most users find that too, gamers  are still tied if their stuffgames wont run native or via wine
[06:52] <abhi_nav> I read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit. helpful!!!
[06:52] <nicholas1988> the VIM portion of the command is not working but I think I set it up wrong
[06:52] <harish> darolu, how do know the path of the file
[06:53] <harish> i have it on my desktop
[06:53] <budah> im using Vim command to edit a config how can go back? ctrl and c dont seem to work lol
[06:53] <harish> how do i give the path
[06:53] <TrueSongMedia> So, is 10.04 going to have the WM buttons back where they should be? On the right?
[06:53] <trinikrono> afsal: i am not sure on that one
[06:53] <trinikrono> =\
[06:53] <jsoft> Vim eh. If only emacs had vim bindings.
[06:53] <edinho> budah, uses nano
[06:54] <harish> can i know the path by right clicking on it?
[06:54] <darolu> harish, type "md5sum /home/<user>/myfile" or simply "cd /path/to/the/file" and run the md5sum there
[06:54] <afsal> anybody who can help connecting my modem
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> !adsl | afsal
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | TrueSongMedia
[06:55] <afsal> i tried for the past 5 days it couldnt help
[06:55] <budah> vim how do i write?
[06:55] <TrueSongMedia> I know what it is, ActionParsnip
[06:55] <TrueSongMedia> I'm using it :P
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> TrueSongMedia: read the WHOLE factoid
[06:55] <afsal> i am new to ubuntu
[06:55] <jsoft> budah: :q!
[06:55] <TrueSongMedia> lol oh. Sorry. (not entirely awake)
[06:56] <edinho> budah, nano /yourfille
[06:56] <budah> ah yeh i got how it works now,
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> TrueSongMedia: np, yur whole support is there til release day
[06:56] <budah> strange stuff :/
[06:56] <darolu> afsal, try to be more specific, what kind of computer and modem do you have?
[06:56] <kk03> I have school computer :D
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> TrueSongMedia: but helping in here is no bad thing (i use lucid too)
[06:56] <kk03> Im in school
[06:56] <abhi_nav> kk03: ??
[06:56] <budah> im trying to setup mutt on ubuntu server from this tutorial from buntu forum
[06:56] <afsal> i have acer laptop and usb modem
[06:57] <abhi_nav> !ask | kk03
[06:57] <kk03> WTF?
[06:57] <harish> darolu, is there any other way to find the path
[06:57] <harish> i am not able to give the path
[06:57] <kk03> HAHAHA
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> afsal: have the modem attatched and run: lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides online
[06:58] <harish> darolu, something like right clicking and knowing the path
[06:58] <darolu> harish, in Nautilus, click on the icon that is next (to the left) of the navigation buttons, below the "back" button
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> kk03: do you have an ubuntu question?
[06:58] <kk03> :D :d
[06:58] <kk03> :D
[06:58] <kk03> No you bastard
[06:58] <budah> yeh thx nano is alot better
[06:58] <kk03> looooooooooooool
[06:58] <kk03> "Blueghost" hahahaha
[06:58] <jsoft> :|
[06:58] <darolu> harish, that way you'll see the full path, right clicking on the file also works, it says "Place /home/etc/etc"
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 109b:3197
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0421:002f Nokia Mobile Phones
[06:58] <FloodBot2> afsal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:59] <abhi_nav> !paste | afsal
[06:59] <jsoft> Oink
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> afsal: dont flood like that, nobody needs the output but you, use the id of the phone in websearches to find guides
[07:00] <ireallydidreadit> Where can I ask a programming related question?
[07:00] <afsal> any ubbuntu nerd here
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> ireallydidreadit: #c #C++ #python #java
[07:00] <Aciid> ##programming?
[07:00] <darolu> ireallydidreadit, there are language-specific channels
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> ireallydidreadit: depends on the language
[07:00] <ireallydidreadit> It's a C related one
[07:00] <ireallydidreadit> Something I can't quite wrap my head around
[07:00] <darolu> ireallydidreadit, type /join #C
[07:01] <indianhacker> Does ubuntu have any selinux equivalent thing?
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> indianhacker: It should
[07:01] <afsal> its not there in web
[07:01] <jsoft> I think it has selinux
[07:01] <abhi_nav> am i connected?
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> Yes
[07:01] <abhi_nav> can anyone read me?
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> Ping
[07:01] <afsal> its possible connecting with xp
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> Pong
[07:01] <abhi_nav>  /ping is not replying
[07:02] <ireallydidreadit> You are connected
[07:02] <kaolbrec> abhi_nav, I see you.
[07:02] <afsal> yeah abinav
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> afsal: you need to use wvdial someway
[07:02] <ireallydidreadit> I wish #C didn't require registration :|
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> afsal: http://forum.daffodilvarsity.edu.bd/index.php?topic=15.0
[07:02] <jsoft> Just regsiter :)
[07:02] <indianhacker> ok jsoft i am trying it
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> ireallydidreadit: why, registration is FREE
[07:02] <ireallydidreadit> xP
[07:03] <afsal> i i tried with wvdial
[07:03] <kk03_> UBUNTU
[07:03] <kk03_> Ubuntu
[07:03] <kk03_> "LEaving"
[07:03] <kk03_> HAHAHA
[07:03] <kk03_> LOL
[07:03] <kk03_> PS
[07:03] <kk02> moro
[07:03] <jsoft> Are you trying to do normal dial up?
[07:03] <kk03_> Kato moro
[07:03] <kk02> XD
[07:04] <kk03_> MXD
[07:04] <kk02> lol
[07:04] <FloodBot2> kk03_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <kk03_> Moro arttu
[07:04] <budah> :/ what do i put in gmails POP forwarding ? when it says forward a copy of incoming mail to?
[07:04] <harish> darolu, this is the path of the file
[07:05] <harish> my cursor is at harish@harishz:~$
[07:05] <budah> im trying to setup mutt but this tutorial is fat to advanced for my knowledge . of ubuntu lol
[07:05] <budah> far* >.<
[07:06] <jsoft> budah: why do you want to use mutt?
[07:06] <darolu> harish, ~/ means you are at your home directory, in your case: /home/harish if you downloaded the iso file to your Desktop simply type "cd Desktop" and it will show ~/Desktop$
[07:07] <afsal> did any1 get my wvdial  output
[07:07] <harish> darolu, when i type cd desktop it says no such file or directory
[07:07] <darolu> harish, try with a capital D ;) press TAB to auto-complete
[07:08] <harish> darolu, it worked
[07:08] <USS> Hmmm no one will respond to my greetings in #C, perhaps no one is listening >:|
[07:08] <darolu> harish, when it doubt, you can type "ls" to see the current directory content
[07:09] <afsal> hey wvdial says cannot open /dev/ttyusb0
[07:10] <afsal> any1
[07:12] <afsal> actionparsnip u there?
[07:12] <harish> darolu, the md5 Hash matches with ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:12] <sie> Are there some ati drivers in repos?
[07:12] <harish> so, it should work this time
[07:13] <afsal> darolu can u help me
[07:13] <darolu> harish, that's good news; yeah it should work, if you want to be extra-safe, when you boot from it, select the "check integrity of CD" (or similar, I don't remember the exact phrase)
[07:13] <harish> darolu, sure..will do...thanks...catch u in 64bit
[07:13] <eycel> can some one help me?
[07:13] <darolu> afsal, I don't have experience using wvdial, sorry
[07:14] <afsal> k
[07:14] <darolu> harish, good luck!
[07:14] <darolu> afsal, however when I deal with something new, I start with the manual; try typing "man wvdial" in your terminal
[07:14] <eycel> can some one check my site and tell me if its working in there firefox?  the site is http://www.mplays.co.cc
[07:15] <jsoft> eycel: ya it works.
[07:15] <eycel> can u make a comment in the news section for me, i just updated it...
[07:15] <eycel> thx btw
[07:15] <jsoft> I dunno, it contains news.
[07:16] <afsal> then what?
[07:16] <darolu> eycel, it works, but is kinda heavy, my firefox acts a bit slow
[07:16] <eycel> says comments
[07:16] <eycel> click on comments
[07:16] <eycel> and make one...
[07:16] <eycel> yes i have flash in it atm daroul
[07:17] <eycel> to slow to navigate?
[07:18] <darolu> eycel, I can navigate, it just scrolls kinda slow, then again, Firefox is not precisely the faster/lightest browser imo
[07:18] <eycel> ic
[07:18] <eycel> you have a gpu?
[07:19] <afsal> any1 help me with usb modem this is my last hope
[07:19] <darolu> Yes, I do
[07:20] <eycel> whats wrong adsal?
[07:20] <eycel> i know a bit about modems
[07:21] <darolu> afsal, type "lsusb" in your terminal and look for your modem, if you don't see it there you need to install the driver for it (or load the right module)
[07:21] <afsal> i can see my modem
[07:23] <letusgothen> Gñardlings
[07:23] <eycel> thx darlu...
[07:23] <darolu> np
[07:25] <darolu> eycel, your site works very neat in Webkit-based browsers
[07:26] <aruzsi> Hi, Please help me configure my fonts dir! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit.
[07:26] <jsoft> I am bored.
[07:27] <darolu> eycel, jomlaa??
[07:27] <darolu> joomla*
[07:28] <aruzsi> I put my 9 pieces TTF fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-kofe and I use fc-cache -f -v command.
[07:28] <tsun> wanted to install firebug on ubuntu 9.10 but got following error: E: bugzilla3: subproces installed post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 14 terug
[07:28] <tsun> anyone?
[07:29] <leagris> tsun, do you install firebug from an ubuntu repository or from a downloaded XPI ?
[07:29] <seb_> someone who can help in using an old radeon 9600 (3D) on 9.10 ?
[07:30] <tsun> from ubuntu repository
[07:30] <tsun> why that question?
[07:30] <leagris> tsun, I use XPI installed firebug with abrowser and it work ok (Ubuntu Karmic 64bit)
[07:30] <budah> .save
[07:31] <letusgothen> Gñardlings
[07:31] <leagris> tsun, ther may be differencies between packaged and XPI install. XPI install is only local to profile as packaged version is shared among all users.
[07:32] <budah> I'm trying to install a script for irssi but i cant find Put the script in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/ i know this is clueless but what am i doing wrong??
[07:32] <seb_> my poor  radeon 9600 don't let me play 3d games....can someone help ?
[07:32] <leagris> tsun, furthermore XPI installed extension are automatically updated when a new version is available. Apt installed extensions depend on packager maintainer to provide an update
[07:32] <darolu> seb_, that card is no longer supported by ATI :'( I have the same card
[07:33] <darolu> so there is not much we can do
[07:33] <tsun> great leagris, i'll check it out
[07:33] <tsun> txs
[07:33] <seb_> darolu, i know...but i was thinking that a xorg.conf genius could helped me!! :)
[07:34] <tsun> it's also f*cked up that i can't install the package anymore
[07:34] <ukebane> tsun it's a known bug which has been fixed in bugzilla <IP_ADDRESS>-1
[07:34] <darolu> tsun, your best shot is to install it from: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
[07:34] <ukebane> but ubuntu has an oldr version
[07:34] <darolu> imo
[07:34] <Berzerker> hi my wireless stopped working
[07:34] <ukebane> so what darolu said
[07:34] <Berzerker> doesn't show up in the icon on the notification bar
[07:34] <ukebane> Berzerker, is your dmesg saying anything?
[07:35] <Berzerker> hardware drivers says Broadcom STA isn't active, when I try to activate it, it says "Sorry, this installation failed"
[07:35] <afsal> ukebane do u know how to connect usb modem
[07:35] <leagris> UR welcome tsun. Here it is: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
[07:36] <ukebane> Berzerker, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305906
[07:36] <tsun> firebug up 'n' running ;)
[07:36] <tsun> txs all
[07:36] <ukebane> afsal, sorry, no :(
[07:36] <Berzerker> ukebane, <Berzerker> hardware drivers says Broadcom STA isn't active, when I try to activate it, it says "Sorry, this installation failed"
[07:36] <afsal> tsun
[07:37] <nine1> Where can I see what kind of gfx card I have?
[07:38] <nine1> I mean with what tool?
[07:39] <leagris> nine1, open a shell console and type lspci | grep VGA
[07:40] <tehbaut> how can I remove grub2 from the MBR without destroying the MBR?
[07:40] <nine1> leagris: Thanks.
[07:40] <afsal> leagris do u know how to connect usb modem
[07:40] <kyppcgeek> hello everyone
[07:40] <cactacaea> I use Ubuntu, and I decided to try out xfce (apt-get install xfce-desktop) and decided i didn't like it and uninstalled it, but by main login page when I boot up is still saying "XFCE desktop", how can I cahnge that back?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:42] <darolu> cactacaea, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[07:42] <cactacaea> darolu: Thanks
[07:42] <leagris> afsal, never done it myself but what kind of modem is it? DSL/cable/brand, does it show with lsusb?
[07:43] <seb_> should i get a previous version of ubuntu to use the radeon 9600 for 3d gaming?
[07:43] <seb_> i mean, is it a good idea?
[07:43] <darolu> seb_, well technically you only need an old kernel
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Darlou: and an older xorg version maybe?
[07:44] <darolu> true
[07:44] <seb_> yes, how can make that?
[07:44] <seb_> i'm pretty new in ubuntu
[07:45] <leagris> seb_, your best bet is getting a cheap but modern video card. You will get same performance or better with a cheap $30 gfx card
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: I think jaunty will do it, intrepid dies next month
[07:45] <seb_> and the use of this graphic card is my only "problem"
[07:45] <darolu> seb_, uhmmm I think adding 8.04 repositories could work, and install the old stuff that way
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: +1 to leargis
[07:45] <kyppcgeek> guys im on pirc. where is ubuntu partition manager?
[07:46] <darolu> seb_, I would install 8.04 though
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Kyppc
[07:46] <kyppcgeek> yeah action
[07:46] <afsal> i got tired of ubuntu
[07:46] <darolu> You can install the legacy driver (ATI Catalyst 9.3) in Jaunty either
[07:46] <seb_> Thanks for all your advices!!
[07:46] <kyppcgeek> seboyan is too limikting
[07:46] <ukebane> Berzerker, you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305906 too?
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Kyppcgeek: you can use gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk to name 2
[07:46] <darolu> afsal, I heard google is a powerful friend... use it
[07:47] <kyppcgeek> from gnome?
[07:47] <darolu> you CAN'T install ATI Legacy driver in Jaunty*
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Kyppcgeek: gparted will run in gnome
[07:47] <seb_> hum...
[07:47] <kyppcgeek> k
[07:47] <kyppcgeek> tx
[07:47] <seb_> what should i understand?
[07:48] <darolu> seb_, try with 8.04 it is a LTS, I think it is supported until April 2011
[07:48] <AbortD> whats the ubuntu lucid channel?
[07:48] <kyppcgeek> I would recommend Linux Mint instead of Saboyan
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: grab a cheap nvidia card and you will have a super easy life
[07:48] <darolu> #lucid+l I think
[07:48] <darolu> !lucid
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Abortd: #ubuntu+1
[07:48] <AbortD> thx
[07:49] <seb_> it's a real dilema
[07:49] <nine1> What's the name of repo for non open ATI drivers?
[07:49] <loquitus> So how do I figure out who/what is using UDP port 162 on my machine?
[07:49] <darolu> seb_, what ActionParsnip said is true, nvidia has far better support for Linux
[07:49] <seb_> buying a new card...formatting my hard disk and getting a previous version...
[07:49] <leagris> loquitus, sudo fuser -v -n udp 162
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Nine1: its in the default repos, the hardware driver app will install the driver if it sees you can use it
[07:50] <darolu> nine1, I don't know of a repo for ATI drivers, but you can use jockey or go to ATI website
[07:50] <kyppcgeek> next question. how does one find the UUID?
[07:50] <loquitus> leagris: great. that returned nothing, yet my SNMP trap daemon is saying it can't get at 162
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: just a new card is all you need
[07:50] <darolu> kyppcgeek, with "sudo blkid"
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Kyppcgeek: sudo blkid
[07:50] <cactacaea> darolu: It didn't work.
[07:51] <seb_> that's a pity cause, i bought this card 6 months ago in order to replace my (very) old geforce mx 440...
[07:51] <nine1> ActionParsnip: Which app? (name of it)
[07:51] <leagris> loquitus, ports <1024 are only allowed by root or root loaded processes
[07:51] <cactacaea> I use Ubuntu, and I decided to try out xfce (apt-get install xfce-desktop) and decided i didn't like it and uninstalled it, but by main login page when I boot up is still saying "XFCE desktop", how can I cahnge that back?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Nine1: gksudo jockey-gtk
[07:52] <nine1> ActionParsnip: What exactly should it do? ;-D
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> cactacaea: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm ,may do it
[07:52] <darolu> cactacaea, that's the only way I know, when you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" it asks you what graphical login you want to use ?
[07:52] <loquitus> leagris: then something really weird is going on... net-snmp won't open port 162
[07:52] <commander_> hey i tries 2 run safari 4 via Wine and try to uninstall wine to do over help
[07:52] <darolu> if you have gdm installed that is
[07:52] <Timberly> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Nine1: bring up a dialogue to install the driver, its also in the system -> admin menu labelled hardware drivers
[07:52] <seb_> ActionParsnip: thanks for advice, do you have an idea of a AGP card that i could buy for a small price?
[07:53] <leagris> seb_, guess qhat, nvidia publish binary black boxes blobs for linux and they still support these very old cards. Ati did not provide open source drivers until recently and has showed interest in free software only recently. Unfortunately their older cards are abandonware.
[07:53] <nine1> Timberly: My system broke. ._.
[07:53] <theadmin> Timberly: Do not post such stuff, also, Ubuntu doesn't allow that
[07:53] <cactacaea> darolu: it didn't ask me anything
[07:53] <darolu> Timberly, don't try that...
[07:53] <IP-v6> hi
[07:53] <IP-v6> does anybody who use ppa:daily for chromium has got font rendering problem ?
[07:53] <nine1> Timberly: You forgot --no-preserve-root
[07:53] <cactacaea> darolu: it just waited a few seconds and then went back to the main prompt
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Seb: geforce6 will be mega cheap and run well
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: I use chromium daily, its flawless
[07:53] <seb_> thanks guys! you're very nice
[07:53] <theadmin> What is the command to download a Bazaar branch? "push" does not seem to be it :/
[07:54] <seb_> i will look for a geforce6 so!!
[07:54] <darolu> cactacaea, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" it should run a program that asks you what graphical login you want to use; maybe it uninstalled gdm when you installed xfce? try reinstalling it "sudo apt-get install gdm"
[07:54] <IP-v6> ActionParsnip, yesterday i ve updated chromium and fonts were realy ugly
[07:55] <theadmin> darolu: XFCE uses GDM in Ubuntu
[07:55] <IP-v6> removed and installed chrome froum google
[07:55] <brando753> will i be able to print with an infred device in ubuntu
[07:55] <brando753> ?
[07:55] <Timberly> ?
[07:55] <Tapout> is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?
[07:55] <leagris> seb_, there are cheapo Nvidia 3x0 lower end cards now
[07:55] <Timberly> is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?
[07:55] <Timberly> seb_, there are cheapo Nvidia 3x0 lower end cards now
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: I haven't ran it for 15 hours due to work but I'll try it later. Log a bug if its bad
[07:55] <Timberly> Ip-v6: I haven't ran it for 15 hours due to work but I'll try it later. Log a bug if its bad
[07:55] <IP-v6> now fonts are realy good
[07:55] <FloodBot2> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:55] <Timberly> now fonts are realy good
[07:55] <Timberly> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:55] <IP-v6> wit stable chrome
[07:55] <Timberly> wit stable chrome
[07:55] <IP-v6> with*
[07:56] <Timberly> with*
[07:56] <darolu> theadmin, oh I see, so it only changed cactacea's theme
[07:56] <Timberly> theadmin, oh I see, so it only changed cactacea's theme
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: as long as I can webbrowse I'm happy
[07:56] <Timberly> Ip-v6: as long as I can webbrowse I'm happy
[07:56] <FloodBot2> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <Timberly> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <theadmin> !ops | Timberly repeats everyone's messages
[07:56] <Timberly> !ops | Timberly repeats everyone's messages
[07:56] <Timberly> Timberly repeats everyone's messages: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01,
[07:57] <brando753> will i be able to print with an infred device in ubuntu
[07:57] <pider> anyone know if there are someone working on a driver for this webcam:  041e:4055 Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Video IM Pro
[07:57] <theadmin> brando753: Most likely yes, you might need additional software though
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Brando753: there's a question about it on launchpad questions I posted an answer to, not sure if it worked
[07:58] <Tapout> is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Pider: websearch for the 8 character hex id, you will find guide
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> S
[07:58] <seb_> glxgears
[07:58] <brando753> the printer is A sIPIX portable printer its available as an option for printer drivers, Im just worried about the infred
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: its not a good test
[07:58] <theadmin> There, found it. "bzr branch lp:anewt". Now, where the hell is it saving it? o_O
[07:58] <brando753> before i buy it
[07:58] <WhatAmIDoingHere> try before you buy
[07:59] <IP-v6> ActionParsnip, how can i log a bug for chromium daily ? from launchped ?
[07:59] <brando753> ebay, so I cant
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: look on the ppa page it should say
[07:59] <harry> helo
[07:59] <pider> I try that
[07:59] <IP-v6> ActionParsnip, ok
[07:59] <seb_> it looks like if geforce 6 is for PCI express bus
[08:00] <jussi01> theadmin: in the folder where you called that from..
[08:00] <seb_> and i'm with an agp slot
[08:00] <theadmin> jussi01: oh crap, so it will end up in my home folder :/ will have a hard time sorting it all out
[08:00] <jussi01> theadmin: it usually puts a folder there
[08:00] <leagris> seb_, if you can get hand on a Geforce 5700 these where awesome
[08:01] <theadmin> jussi01: Phew, it did.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Tapout:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274157
[08:01] <darolu> IP-v6, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list works for me
[08:01] <xp> hi
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: then go one down to geforce5
[08:02] <seb_> ok
[08:02] <IP-v6> darolu, thanks i'm looking
[08:02] <leagris> seb_, PNY GeForce 6200 - 512 Mo TV-Out/DVI - AGP (NVIDIA GeForce 6200)
[08:02] <seb_> i maybe shoudln't have put the mx 440 in a trash box that fast...
[08:03] <seb_> O.o
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Leagris: I have that in my main system but onboard :)
[08:03] <xp> h
[08:03] <leagris> seb_, you wold have gotten some bucks out of it at ebay :)
[08:03] <seb_> I read different infos...
[08:04] <theadmin> What happened to mirrors? :/ I can't download php5-cli because it sezzit that server not found
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> !info php5-cli
[08:04] <xp> gggg
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: its on the main repo, weird
[08:04] <seb_> leagris: you're right, it's agp 8x
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: does: sudo apt-get update ,help?
[08:05] <leagris> seb_, for twice that price there is
[08:05] <leagris> NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT - 128 Mo TV-Out/DVI - AGP
[08:05] <kyppcgeek> ewww
[08:05] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Let's try...
[08:05] <tehbaut> Losha: hot dang, it turns out I got taken by a longstanding ubuntu installer bug :/
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Leagris, the 6200 was 512mb ;)
[08:06] <darolu> leagris, how much is the 6200? I may change my radeon 9600
[08:06] <seb_> anyway, i'm mother card limited (AGP 4 x)
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: then it will run at 4x
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: agp will run as fast as the slowest part
[08:06] <seb_> Yes, my 9600 is running in  4x
[08:07] <sharetel> Hi all, I wish to install a network printer on Ubuntu to be used by users on Windows. Is it necessary to configure Samba for this?
[08:07] <seb_> i was thinking about the memory, 512 or 128 ?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Sharetel: its one way
[08:07] <tehbaut> Losha: apparently, ubuntu installs grub to the first connected disk... I installed ubuntu to a disk via usb, though... so my main disk's MBR got fudged
[08:07] <leagris> seb_, 36,94 €
[08:07] <theadmin> I get the following, ActionParsnip: П: Не удалось загрузить http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-ru.gz  Ошибка чтения, удалённый сервер прервал соединение [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] (W: Could not download... url here... Read error, remote server closed the connection) and then the ip
[08:07] <seb_> 512 should be useless, no?
[08:08] <sharetel> Action: One way as in?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Sharetel: I did it that way, you can also setup cups nice to appear as a proint server and samba won't be needed
[08:08] <seb_> leagris: from wich one did you give the price?
[08:08] <leagris> seb_, depend if you plan on running windows games within wine
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: can you ping the server?
[08:09] <seb_> no, i would like to play spring TA
[08:09] <seb_> i guess that i won't use windows any more
[08:09] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/399162/
[08:09] <seb_> in 2 months, i understood the power of linux
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: try a different server in software sources, maybe that one is having issues
[08:09] <sharetel> Yes, my intention is to install CUPS but am just too confused to understand it...there are two printers..HP2015 and HP2015dn. I would like to try the normal USB printer HP2015. Is it possible to use it on CUPS as a network printer?
[08:09] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:10] <tehbaut> Losha: that explains why I thought the MBR from one disk got magically copied to another disk, when actually I only cloned two partitions via DD ...it just so happens that I had only recently installed ubuntu, so I didn't boot back into the fudged disk until after I both: installed ubuntu, and cloned those partitions
[08:10] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Give me a sources.list line, i don't have a desktop environment...
[08:10] <tehbaut> Losha: I just thought I'd fill you in ;)
[08:10] <leagris> seb_, I intensively play Everquest2 within cedega and wine and that takes my 320GTX to its max
[08:10] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <lorenzosu> op?
[08:11] <lorenzosu> !op
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: change the archive.ubuntu.com to gb.archive.ubuntu.com save the file and run apt-get update and see if its better
[08:11] <seb_> in fact, i booight the 9600 in order to play spring TA witgh better quality
[08:11] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <seb_> but it needed the lowest graphic details to run correctly
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Leargis: is cedega worth the cash?
[08:11] <Marlon> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[08:12] <leagris> ActionParsnip, not anymore but it work for Everquest2
[08:12] <elky> lorenzosu, ugh, sorry. next time do "!op | naughty person" and it'll happen quicker
[08:12] <lorenzosu> elky, oh thanks
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Leargis: I guess you gotta cough up and pay the man sometimes huh :(
[08:12] <lorenzosu> elky, where naughty person is the nick right?
[08:12] <elky> lorenzosu, correct
[08:13] <lorenzosu> elky, ok thanks
[08:13] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Hm, that seems to work.
[08:13] <seb_> do you know spring TA?
[08:14] <leagris> ActionParsnip, indeed I was dissapointed but it is off topic here. I guess wine work nicely beside it has some crash issues in EQ2, but it is realy free software.
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: guess the server you were accessing was being messed with. The uk server isn't right now (apparently) so will do you :)
[08:14] <theadmin> Now, any idea... i downloaded the anewt thing, but... err... makes no sense what to do next %)
[08:14] <aprilhare> hello. i found my system wouldn't boot when I got home; I had placed it into hibernation before leaving home. - I've booted off cd and am running fsck right now - but before it kept on dropping me to a shell and complaining it couldn't find the root partition... do i need to worry? - the main linux partition mounted fine when I accessed it after booting from cd
[08:14] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I was downloading from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: well now others folks know to look out :)
[08:15] <Cue> hey hey guys, hey...guys hey
[08:15] <Cue> with an ISO from ubuntu.com, does the repos come with the iso?
[08:15] <leagris> ActionParsnip, here is my Ubuntu box running EQ2: http://www.noiraude.net/videos/eq2linux.ogv
[08:15] <Cue> because I ordered a cd a long time ago, and I could apt-get from that disk, but with just a normal ISO, if you install it to a disk, can you use the repos?
[08:15] <theadmin> Cue: repos? Installer generates a sources.list on install, or on Live CD start
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Aprilhare: check your /etc/fstab on the root internal partition and make sure it matches the output of: sudo blkid
[08:16] <malifal> !postfix
[08:16] <jaypetey> Can anyone tell me why "* * * * * /home/joe/scripts/system/wallpaper.py" wouldn't work with crontab? (I'm only running it every minute as for testing purposes)
[08:16] <Cue> theadmin, well friend needs to get wicd without an internet connection
[08:16] <Cue> to obtain a connection to the internet
[08:16] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, correct it manually if not?
[08:16] <theadmin> Cue: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Aprilhare: sure, backup the current one before also
[08:17] <theadmin> jaypetey: Do you really expect it to execute like a program? :/ put "python " before the path
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Leargis: on a phone on not g3 that will take ages, sorry dude
[08:17] <malifal> !MailServer
[08:17] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, anything else or just panic? :)
[08:17] <llutz> jaypetey: your python script is executable and has a corrrrect shebang?
[08:18] <Cue> theadmin, I don't think you get it - it's not me, and he doesn't have connection to the internet, I remember on my old disk I could apt-get from the CD, like I was installed, and not on the internet, but there were some packages on the CD itself.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Aprilhare: can't think of anyhting else
[08:18] <Cue> Like build-essential and stuff
[08:18] <leagris> ActionParsnip, ;d yes sorry
[08:18] <Jordan_U> Cue: You are thinking of the DVD.
[08:18] <jaypetey> theadmin, it should execute like a program, since it has the correct shebang, and is marked executable (can run from terminal no problems)
[08:18] <jaypetey> llutz, yes, it is/does
[08:18] <Jordan_U> Cue: The DVD images contain all of main.
[08:18] <theadmin> Cue: There are on DVD, not on CD
[08:18] <aprilhare> can anyone remember that POP3 also has functionality "POP3 Send"? I remember that the mail client YAM for Amiga used to support POP3 Send
[08:18] <seb_> guys: what do you think about this card ?
[08:18] <seb_> http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/97813130.htm?ca=11_s
[08:19] <Cue> oh
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Cue: you can use the cd as a repo, there's not as much as the dvd though
[08:19] <aprilhare> it was superior to SMTP however few clients supported POP3 Send
[08:19] <jaypetey> theadmin, but i'll give the "python ..." a try
[08:19] <leagris> seb_, are you from france?
[08:19] <Cue> and when you 'order' a copy from ubuntu.com they send you the dvd?
[08:19] <seb_> yes
[08:19] <Haffe> seb_: Make sure it's not a 6200TC at least.
[08:19] <theadmin> jaypetey: Well, crontab messes stuff a lot...
[08:19] <Jordan_U> Cue: Not for the free service.
[08:20] <llutz> theadmin: it doesn't
[08:21] <jaypetey> theadmin, llutz, if it still doesn't work, do you know what my first step in fixing it would be?
[08:21] <seb_> 29 e is cheap no?
[08:21]  * aprilhare looks over the POP3 wiki and iscovers a reference to "XTND XMIT" but holds little hope that any Ubuntu compatible client supports such POP3 extensions - does anyone know different?
[08:21] <llutz> jaypetey: its listed with "crontab -l"?
[08:21] <jaypetey> llutz, yessir
[08:22] <llutz> jaypetey: isn't it started at all or does it just not work as expected?
[08:22] <theadmin> jaypetey: And does the user who the crontab belongs to have exec permissions?
[08:23] <jaypetey> llutz, don't think it's starting (the script is only 3 lines, kind of hard to tell but should work)
[08:23] <jaypetey> theadmin, the user is me (or this account) which is the same account for the crontab and who created the script
[08:23] <tehbaut> is there a ctrl+alt+del for shutdown (instead of reboot) when at the grub interface?
[08:24] <llutz> jaypetey: add something like "date >/tmp/scriptcheck" to the beginning of your script to check if it runs
[08:25] <EviLz> Almost FUD(Undetected by Most Antivirus) link to httpbotnet with sandbox report and binary -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QROLABXQ (The Password to the .zip is password) Trying to get this nasty sob report as the nets total count is surpassing 100k+ and no-one seems to want to toutch it.
[08:25] <jaypetey> llutz, would that be a bash line?
[08:25] <llutz> jaypetey: use python if youlike, i don't know how to do it in py
[08:26] <jaypetey> llutz, just making sure, i can run bash from python
[08:26] <llutz> jaypetey: ah ok
[08:26] <VEvilz> anyone see that link or know somewhere the binary can be submitted?
[08:26] <amateja> hi, I get 'hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4' in /var/log/kernel.log while usb drive is plugged in and I'm not able to use any usb drive
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:27] <amateja> I'd be grateful for any help
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: wassup?
[08:27] <ShazNipples> VEvilz, what? You want a binary converter?
[08:27] <VEvilz> so would i lol
[08:27] <ShazNipples> To english?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> !ops | VEvilz
[08:28] <VEvilz> i posted under nick Evilz but got hit by smap filter
[08:28] <VEvilz> **spam
[08:28] <VEvilz> megaupload link is to active botnet exe with #s over 100k
[08:28] <VEvilz> spreading like a mfer
[08:28] <VEvilz> trying to find somewhere to report it
[08:28] <ShazNipples> oh hi Jordan_U
[08:28] <ShazbotMcNasty> lol
[08:29] <elky> VEvilz, what are you doing?
[08:29] <VEvilz> [VEvilz] trying to find somewhere to report it || get it reported
[08:29] <amateja> ActionParsnip: I have IBM T42, Kubuntu 9.10 and a cannot use any usb drive - I solved this issue on PLD Linux Distribiution with unloading ehci_hcd module
[08:29] <VEvilz> link to httpbotnet with sandbox report and binary -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QROLABXQ (The Password to the .zip is password)
[08:29] <VEvilz> ""
[08:29] <Jordan_U> VEvilz: Stop posting that link
[08:29] <amateja> ActionParsnip: but on Kubuntu I have no such module
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: have you checked http://laptop-linux.com
[08:30] <xmarux> Do any of the major music players like Rhythmbox, Banshee or even Songbird support music playing from an archive such as a 7zip archive?
[08:30] <s33ker> I am getting the following error while using apt-get Install "libxcb-render0-dev: Depends: libxcb-render0 (= 1.1.93-0ubuntu3) but 1.1.93-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed". Any idea how this error can be resolved?
[08:30] <jaypetey> llutz, ok, turns out it is running... just not doing what it's supposed to. at least now i know it's not cron's fault. it's place to start
[08:30] <VEvilz> srsly?
[08:30] <Rake> Having an issue with getting sound working with ubuntu 9.10,  have looked through forums with out anything working,  in sound the sound card does not seem to be there with output being listed as 'dummy'.  Sound card is onboard on a asus p5n32e SLi plus.
[08:30] <llutz> jaypetey: happy debugging, shouldn't be hard with 3 lines :)
[08:30] <wgrant> xmarux: Not directly, no. Why?
[08:30] <elky> VEvilz, this channel has nothing to do with botnets
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: have a read of dmesg | tail -n 20 ,when you attach a usb device too
[08:30] <VEvilz> yes but it is a linux based channel
[08:30] <amateja> ActionParsnip: well - no I haven't
[08:31] <VEvilz> with a large user base
[08:31] <jaypetey> llutz, cron runs as me, right? (or as the user who's logged in when you edit crontab)
[08:31] <VEvilz> which would mean it is very likely someone might know who i should be talking to
[08:31] <xmarux> Cause of the way I do backups, it's easier on the server if i archive my albums before uploading instead of sending a bunch of small requests so i like to read from an archive, i can in windows in foobar2000
[08:31] <VEvilz> or where it can be posted
[08:31] <elky> VEvilz, this is a support channel for directl ubuntu related issues, not a soapbox
[08:31] <llutz> jaypetey: your crontab is run as you, right
[08:31] <amateja> ActionParsnip: dmesg | tails -n 20 shows me onlye that message and nothing more
[08:31] <wgrant> xmarux: That sounds like a buggy backup system.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Xmarux: audio files don't compress well, if you use fileroller or arkiver etc you can tell it to open the file from there
[08:32] <poent> Hello everyone. I just installed 9.10 and have been having some issues setting up my wireless card. Would anyone mind giving me a hand? I'm using a WMP300N linksys pci card and have followed several tutorials online to no avail.
[08:32] <xmarux> wow, thanks for not helping at all
[08:32] <llutz> jaypetey: crontab -u <yourusernam> -l              to be sure
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: its tail not tails
[08:33] <eycel> does any one know if you can use a usb wireless card on ubunto live cd?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Poent: the make and model is fairly moot, run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see the chip used and can find guides using that
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: sure you can
[08:34] <eycel> myn wont connect?
[08:34] <amateja> ActionParsnip: it's only a typo on irc - i did it correctly in console
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: have you given it a driver?
[08:35] <eycel> well its just plug-play
[08:35] <eycel> how do i give it one?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: ok then run: dmesg , and read the last few lines. It should show the kernel reacting to the insert.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: run: sudo lshw -C network ,websearch for the product line to find guides how to set it up
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: usb by definition is plug and play
[08:36] <eycel> well its a belkin wireless n
[08:36] <eycel> ...
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: laptoplinux site may give some clues
[08:37] <ariza> helloooo... how to install ubuntu in sbc board???
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: belkin don't make the chip in the device so "belkin" doesn't tell us much
[08:37] <amateja> ActionParsnip: dmesg shows me the same - only this message
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: the command I gave will tell you which chip is used and you can find guides
[08:37] <amateja> ActionParsnip: I'll check up those sites
[08:38] <poent> ActionParsnip: i've been using the product ID to search already. The driver is installed already with ndiswrapper. When i open up the gui for ndis i get the error "unable to see if hardware is present".
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: it may be a broadcom or an atheros, those are quite common
[08:39] <amateja> ActionParsnip: but I have this issues even on Kubuntu LiveCD and I think there is something no entirely right
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: maybe there's a config you need in a conf file, or a package etc.
[08:40] <eycel> i pasted it to u
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: use a pastebin in future please. Don't pm to spam me like that
[08:40] <eycel> pastebin?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: does: sudo iwlist scan ,find APs?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> !paste | eycel
[08:41] <amateja> ActionParsnip: there's only description of installing Ubuntu 5.10, well it's rather too old :)
[08:41] <psycho_oreos> poent, I'd check to see if there's any interfaces that has wireless extensions if not, the ndis driver maybe missing firmware
[08:42] <amateja> ActionParsnip: i think my issue will remain unresolved
[08:42] <gheddy_zarc> massive lag can I get a ping pls
[08:42] <eycel> it brings up interface with like 10 different words
[08:42] <amateja> ActionParsnip: thanks anyway
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: true but it may still work. Just backup any files you edit etc so you can roll back
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: just because you think its old doesn't mean it won't work
[08:43] <poent> psycho_oreos, i didnt see any that had wireless extensions. Only my onboard eth connections were showing up. If it is missing firmware how do I go about adding it or finding it?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: can you pastebin the output please
[08:43] <root> hey
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> !hi | root
[08:43] <psycho_oreos> poent, usually if its in the case of ndis, it would be the accompanying .sys file is missing or invalid for the driver
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> Thanks psycho_
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> poent, though I'd much prefer you to tell me what is the lspci -nnk or lsusb output into pastebin so maybe I can assist you better
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> ActionParsnip, :o np
[08:45] <madsen> this 10.04 is greeeat
[08:45] <eycel> k gimie sec
[08:45] <psycho_oreos> !lucid | madsen
[08:45] <eycel> do i need to signup to launchpad oe something?
[08:45] <amateja> ActionParsnip: what if i'd like to have system more up to date? issue can show up again after update
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: possibly, you can say that about any config though
[08:47] <eycel> ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/399172/plain/
[08:47] <poent> psycho_oreos, Here you go. http://pastebin.org/119757
[08:47] <madsen> haha ubottu
[08:47] <madsen> alrite
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> poent, seems like a better option for you is to use wl
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> poent, less hassles
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: you get that from: sudo iwlist scan
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: is that right?
[08:49] <eycel> hmm
[08:49] <eycel> gimie min
[08:49] <eycel> il do it again
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Cool
[08:50] <poent> psycho_oreos, I'm not familiar enough with ubuntu to know what you mean. wl means wireless Lan right?
[08:50] <psycho_oreos> poent, no no, in this case the wl is the proprietary driver by broadcom for your broadcom wireless device
[08:51] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom | poent
[08:52] <eycel> ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/399174/
[08:52] <psycho_oreos> poent, you need to follow this precisely: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20b43/STA%20hybrib%20drivers
[08:52] <poent> psycho_oreos, alrighty thanks. I'll give it a try
[08:52] <igoryonya> is /etc like "Program files" in windows and /home, like "Documents and Settings" ?
[08:52] <eycel> here it is action http://paste.ubuntu.com/399174/
[08:53] <poent> psycho_oreos, Do you think i should attempt to remove ndiswrapper and any other driver leftovers before starting this? or should it not matter?
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, not exactly, but on the point of /home is somewhat
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Thanks, stupid connection reset
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> poent, probably good idea to blacklist it, if not familiar with blacklisting, then I'd remove ndiswrapper
[08:53] <igoryonya> what is like windows in Windows?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: great, its picking up APs so its working :)
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, / generally
[08:53] <poent> will do, thanks again
[08:54] <psycho_oreos> poent, np
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: if you use the network tool in the top right you can connect to your network etc
[08:54] <eycel> iv had it working before, but the last time i attempted it it wouldnt connect
[08:54] <igoryonya> I am trying to figure out what is the purpose of each folder in Linux.
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Igoryonya: in windows, windows is like windows
[08:54] <llutz> !fhs > igoryonya
[08:55] <eycel> im not sure if its my network or what
[08:55] <eycel> but it just wont connect
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Igoryonya: I wouldn't worry too much, just get a flavour. It not overly important tbh
[08:55] <lyt> +i
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: network manager will get you connected, its part of a standard install
[08:56] <lyt> +i
[08:56] <rednammoc> hi guys. how to determine, which users has been logged in to my machine during my absence ?
[08:56] <llutz> rednammoc: last
[08:56] <rednammoc> llutz: thx :)
[08:56] <igoryonya> ActionParsnip: From my experience, of working on coputers, you figure out the file/folder structure, you figure out the computer. Everything else is the matter of logic.
[08:57] <llutz> igoryonya: if you know about the folder-layout, lots of things are easier to understand (permissions etc)
[08:58] <igoryonya> llutz: that's exactly, what I am saying.
[08:58] <llutz> igoryonya: it's just hard to learn, since it's completly different from DOS/Win
[08:59] <psycho_oreos> though it shares similar base with other *nixes
[08:59] <Fudge> hi, i have some questions about gparted and general partitioning. How come I have two lots of unpartitioned space and cant join them together? is it correct for my extended partition to be a partitio nlike sda2 and then fo rthe logical drive using all of that extended partition to be sda5? Last, I read that ufs and other filesystems can be created in ubuntu gparted but I do not know how to access, right clicking some free space only allows
[09:00] <igoryonya> llutz: yes, @ least I've found where my "documents and settings"-like and where all of the "drive-letters"-like are :). /home and /mount
[09:00] <igoryonya> llutz: that's to start with.
[09:00] <eycel> any one get wireless to work on ubunto live cd?
[09:01] <psycho_oreos> eycel, not that I've tried via livecd but I'd imagine its similar to a real install except settings will be lost on reboot
[09:01] <babalu> hi, is there a way to check the battery status in command line?
[09:01] <babalu> and is there a way to get the computer to sleep when we are without server X? or is that a server X feature?
[09:01] <eycel> for the life of me it wont connect
[09:01] <eycel> ...
[09:01] <eycel> it shows all my network stuff
[09:01] <leagris> Fudge, yes this is all correct. Though if you use no more than 4 partition on a disk you may create only primary type partitions. this save some little space and they will be named sdx1 - sdx4 only
[09:01] <eycel> just wont connect
[09:01] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, drive-letters are partial under /mount.. there's also /dev/{h,s}dX
[09:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there any way to export the radiance and ambience themes from Lucid thats installed on my netbook to put onto 9.04 installation on my desktop or is there a tar.gz of theme somewhere I can download?
[09:01] <eycel> it always comes up disconnect
[09:02] <igoryonya> eycel: for me it worked out of the box. My liveCD was 8.10 64bit version, the Cisco WiFi card
[09:02] <psycho_oreos> eycel, can you please pastebin your lspci -nnk output or lsusb output into pastebin?
[09:02] <eycel> whats command sudo lspci -nnk?
[09:02] <Fudge> leagris thanks, ok so logicals are sda5-, how about the other filesystems to create?
[09:02] <psycho_oreos> eycel, well sudo I don't think is needed but yeah, you'll need to execute that in terminal
[09:02] <jsoft> Anyone used the Lenovo S10 IdeaPad's ?
[09:03] <leagris> babalu, look at the acpi tools
[09:03] <babalu> leagris: thanks
[09:03] <abhi_nav> hi
[09:03] <igoryonya> psycho_oreos: /dev/{h,s}dX have unmounted partitions, right?
[09:04] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, fyi if you google "linux filesystem" you'll find a fair few basic info about the differences between windows and linux filesystem structures
[09:04] <llutz> igoryonya: that are the device-nodes representing your drives
[09:04] <darolu> !fhs | igoryonya
[09:04] <eycel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399179/
[09:04] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, they're mainly block/raw devices, some may be mounted, some may not be mounted, one or few maybe related to root fs and others are generally unattached block devices
[09:05] <leagris> babalu, cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info ...
[09:05] <eycel> although wireless here has been some what shooty
[09:05] <eycel> ....
[09:05] <psycho_oreos> eycel, "lspci -nnk" (without quotes)
[09:06] <zbrahead91-dedi> Anyone here know how to make the git kernel source into a PPA source package?
[09:06] <eycel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399180/
[09:07] <meowbuntu> would anyone know an easy way to boot multipul os from a usb. say puppylinux, ubuntu, etc.
[09:07] <babalu> leagris: which line should i look at?
[09:08] <igoryonya> psycho_oreos: I've found a linux filesystem howto on the net, it's just about 100 pages long, I started reading, it. It just will take a while before I finish reading it. I was just running ahead, asking questions here, because I wanted to know the most needed directories for me, so, I already clicked on the link, presented by ubottu to see what it says.
[09:08] <psycho_oreos> eycel, I gather this is USB wireless device?
[09:08] <eycel> yes wireless n belkin
[09:08] <eycel> on an alienware laptop
[09:09] <psycho_oreos> eycel, ahh belkin, it'll go back to the first pastebin, gotcha.. now I'm going to search
[09:09] <ranjan> hello every body today i installed electric sheep on ubuntu 9.10  and also i have managed an copy of sheep from my friend .. so can any body can tell me in which folder should i Place this ship so that it can work normally .. thanks in advance
[09:09] <eycel> heh iv searched
[09:09] <eycel> ...
[09:09] <leagris> babalu, better at /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
[09:09] <eycel> wiresles netowrk disconnect every time
[09:09] <babalu> leagris: ok thanks
[09:10] <eycel> it could be a number of things, my networks wireless just isnt worth a shit, 9.10 ubunto, cause iv goton it working wiht ealier versions, or something else
[09:10] <psycho_oreos> eycel, and your interface is wlan0?
[09:11] <eycel> i think leme check
[09:11] <eycel> im pritty sure
[09:11] <eycel> it picks up
[09:11] <eycel> like neibors
[09:11] <prokops> hello
[09:11] <psycho_oreos> eycel, one of the potential issue is that your device is 802.11n capable, which the driver is a little immature under linux.. that's part of the issue, the other part is that ubuntu 9.10, due to the release is bound to a somewhat old kernel which limits if not inhibits the use of such device
[09:11] <eycel> signals and stuff
[09:12] <david_> hi
[09:12] <david_> i'm new there
[09:12] <eycel> im not using n though, g
[09:12] <eycel> ...
[09:12] <eycel> and its worked before
[09:12] <eycel> ...
[09:12] <eycel> so...
[09:12] <FloodBot2> eycel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <david_> and dont much speak engles
[09:13] <abhi_nav> david_ which is your language?
[09:13] <psycho_oreos> eycel, its not that, the chipset is 802.11n capable which the code is different from 802.11g base.. its pretty much a completely different chipset/driver
[09:13] <leagris> david_, check if there are #ubuntu-language channel for your native language
[09:13] <psycho_oreos> eycel, I suppose if and when it disconnects I'd check dmesg for reasons why
[09:13] <eycel> well it wont connect atal
[09:14] <eycel> ...
[09:14] <eycel> but if it brings up singnals and everything, whats keeping it from connecting
[09:14] <meowbuntu> hi is there an easy way for me to boot multipul os from my usb drive.
[09:14] <psycho_oreos> eycel, hmm dmesg may show reasons why, it might be missing firmware
[09:14] <eycel> everything seems in order besides the conection
[09:14] <eycel> ...
[09:15] <abhi_nav> meowbuntu: partition usb in more than one partition and then each partition keep different os using unetbootin
[09:15] <psycho_oreos> eycel, pastebin your dmesg output
[09:15] <leagris> meowbuntu, may be installing grub on the usb disk. You should search the web about that as it may require some understanding of grub bootloader
[09:15] <eycel> okis
[09:16] <llutz> meowbuntu: there is, i'm using a stick with 5 diffrent live-os on it. just let me search a hwoto
[09:16] <eycel> it just brongs up some temperature stuff http://paste.ubuntu.com/399184/
[09:16] <SSShvb> Hello all does some one can help to install Maya 2010?
[09:17] <sharetel> Hi, is it possible to share a USB printer as a network printer via CUPS?
[09:17] <leagris> a shame there is no PXE boot with wireless. I would have enhoyed providing free live ubuntu over the air to my neighbours :)
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> eycel, doesn't seem like the complete output of dmesg or it seems like all the previous info has been overwritten by these temperature marks
[09:18] <meowbuntu> leagris, yea i know about grub not much about grub 2 though.
[09:19] <meowbuntu> abhi_nav, if i do that then windozzy cant read all the partitions thats not a good idea.
[09:19] <david_> i retire
[09:19] <david_> glad to meet we
[09:20] <llutz> meowbuntu: blog.p-mt.net/archives/644   german but important parts should be clear
[09:20] <abhi_nav> meowbuntu: take that windows thing and take one cup water and dispose in it :-(
[09:20] <meowbuntu> fanks llutz
[09:20] <meowbuntu> arg not german
[09:20] <eycel> goes requestiong lalalala then disconnect
[09:20] <eycel> lol
[09:20] <abhi_nav> mwowbuntu: you mean thans llutz?
[09:20] <abhi_nav> mwowbuntu: you mean thanx llutz?
[09:21] <eycel> i disconnected
[09:21] <meowbuntu> llutz, thats not a website is it
[09:21] <abhi_nav> eycel: no you are here
[09:21] <eycel> whats supose to me in the dmesg
[09:21] <eycel> ?
[09:21] <Duke_> Hey guys anyone know where I can find a driver for my Wireless PCI adaptor? NetGear WG311 - I have a Windows CD with drivers if that helps.
[09:22] <llutz> meowbuntu: http://blog.p-mt.net/archives/644
[09:22] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, is the device plugged in?
[09:22] <meowbuntu> ah thanks
[09:22] <psycho_oreos> eycel, hmm can you pastebin your lsmod output?
[09:22] <meowbuntu> 6 llutz
[09:22] <eycel> k
[09:23] <eycel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399185/
[09:23]  * Pillowtester is away: busy sleeping
[09:23] <Duke_> psycho_oreos, yes, it is one of those ones that goes inside my computer case. Plugged directly into one of the PCI slots on my motherboard.
[09:24] <meowbuntu> llutz, one thing can i use other os not mentioned on the site
[09:24] <eycel> i dont get it belkin is very universal its in every store imaginable,
[09:24] <aprilhare> actionparsnip: there is a partition /dev/sda3 mentioned by sudo blkid but not by fstab. add it to fstab?
[09:24] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, I know how it gets connected/plugged in.. I'm saying is the device actually inside or not.. so if it is pastebin your lspci -nnk output
[09:24] <llutz> meowbuntu: you can, just look how they use grub to start the iso
[09:25] <aprilhare> erm
[09:25] <llutz> meowbuntu: may not work with all, but it's worth to try
[09:26] <meowbuntu> llutz, ok so basically after i have the download i just copy it to my flash drive right
[09:26] <psycho_oreos> eycel, the problem is that its not the product name that's the issue, its the vendor in which this case yours is Ralink RT2870 or Ralink being a little picky because linux, unlike windows mainly requires 3rd party devs to create drivers for it or otherwise you have to use vendor driver which can be rare depending on which vendor its actually from
[09:26] <meowbuntu> and edit it as written in the script
[09:26] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:26] <llutz> meowbuntu: read the site, look at the shown grub.cfg. it has to be edited to your needs
[09:26] <Duke_> sorry psycho_oreos. Just trying to explain that it's not one of those laptop ones. http://paste.ubuntu.com/399187/
[09:27] <meowbuntu> llutz, i cant understand german
[09:27] <llutz> meowbuntu: i haven't used his script, just used the grub55.cfg as example
[09:27] <meowbuntu> o i c
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, those are more like pcmcia/cardbus
[09:27] <eycel> but if thats the case why is it even idetifiying itself
[09:27] <eycel> wouldnt it just not work atal
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, I meant "lspci -nnk" (without quotes)
[09:28] <meowbuntu> i remember from grub how to edit that but grub 2 is totally different
[09:28] <david_> who can desinstal a program on ubuntu?
[09:28] <psycho_oreos> eycel, its identified itself is partially because there is an entry in the pci:id database and the other is that there is a driver in which recognises the pci:id and hence was loaded.. but those are part of the complete picture
[09:28] <meowbuntu> llutz, do i just copy the file to my usb. ?????
[09:29] <psycho_oreos> david_, depends on how its installed
[09:29] <llutz> meowbuntu: the green lines at start prepare your usb-stick with grub2
[09:29] <llutz> meowbuntu: that part is important
[09:29] <eycel> its usb not pci
[09:29] <Duke_> psycho_oreos There we go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/399190/
[09:29] <eycel> but i understand
[09:30] <llutz> meowbuntu: further down, just before the grub-screens being shown, there is a link to "grub055.cfg", download it
[09:30] <meowbuntu> llutz, i dont know if its that foward s i confused by german
[09:30] <david_> psycho and where the find?
[09:30] <eycel> so can i like download something
[09:30] <eycel> ...
[09:30] <psycho_oreos> eycel, yes there'd be a database for all that.. hence that's why you get Belkin Components from that lsusb output as opposed to the bare 050d:815c
[09:30] <meowbuntu> already did its actually near the top of page in english
[09:31] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> eycel, hmm right now the best idea is to try and reload the driver, because your dmesg is all overwritten with temperature stuff which is kinda useless
[09:31] <eycel> ok il brb
[09:32] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, eww marvell wireless.. umm you'll need your driver disc for starters and ndiswrapper
[09:32] <llutz> meowbuntu: try the srcipt, maybe it works
[09:32] <meowbuntu> llutz, is that not grub 1.9.7. if i install as he says it will put frub 2 on my flshdrive now
[09:32] <david_> psycho_oreos i install from terminal
[09:32] <llutz> meowbuntu: grub2 == grub-1.9x
[09:33] <meowbuntu> different grub version. grub 2 is different than grub 1
[09:33] <meowbuntu> o i c
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> david_, would help if you could tell me what command you used
[09:33] <llutz> grub1 == grub0.9.x
[09:34] <david_> psycho_oreos : sudo aptitude install
[09:34] <meowbuntu> llutz, y do i need to download grub 2 again ubuntu already has it installed.
[09:34] <llutz> meowbuntu: nope
[09:34] <psycho_oreos> david_, then I'd use sudo aptitude remove
[09:35] <david_> woow thank you so much
[09:35] <meowbuntu> llutz, then how do i st up grub 2 on usb
[09:35] <meowbuntu> if i follow his instructions it will install grub on my os again
[09:35] <psycho_oreos> david_, np
[09:35] <llutz> meowbuntu: then you have to alter his script or do it manually
[09:36] <meowbuntu> llutz how do i get it on my usb
[09:36] <meowbuntu> download it right
[09:36] <llutz> meowbuntu: whats your usb-device?
[09:37] <david_> psycho_oreos: What is np?
[09:37] <meowbuntu> 20gug usb hdd
[09:37] <psycho_oreos> david_, no problems
[09:37] <llutz> meowbuntu: /dev/sdXY <-
[09:38] <meowbuntu> llutz, http://www.newsmy.com/en/products_show.asp?ArticleID=395
[09:38] <llutz> meowbuntu: /dev/sdXY <-?   device not brand/type
[09:38] <david_> woow
[09:38] <meowbuntu> ^^ <meowbuntu> 20gug usb hdd
[09:39] <llutz> meowbuntu: what /dev/sdXY your usb-device?      /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc
[09:39] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:39] <llutz> or whatever
[09:39] <meowbuntu> ah sorry missed that
[09:39] <meowbuntu> hold on
[09:39] <meowbuntu> arg whats the terminal command
[09:39] <miraculix> meowbuntu: try "fdisk -l" to list
[09:39] <llutz> sudo fdisk -l
[09:40] <llutz> meowbuntu: this howto uses an usb-thumb, so it asumes only 1 vfat-partition on the device
[09:41] <meowbuntu> llutz, fdisk -l blank
[09:41] <llutz> meowbuntu: sudo fdisk -l
[09:42] <xsacha> j #andromnia
[09:42] <meowbuntu> llutz, i will only use 1 partition on my 20gig
[09:43] <meowbuntu> llutz, /dev/sdb1
[09:43] <meowbuntu> llutz, hold on need to format
[09:43] <llutz> meowbuntu: so it has to be vfat
[09:44] <bullgard>  /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.c is headlined: "thinkpad_acpi.c - ThinkPad ACPI Extras". What does 'Extras' mean here?
[09:44] <seb_> léa?
[09:44] <llutz> meowbuntu: sudo mkfs.vfat -n MultiUSB /dev/sdb1
[09:44] <llutz> meowbuntu: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[09:45] <meowbuntu> llutz, slow down i am gparted format hdd
[09:46] <maveas> Are you guys aware of a stable proxy in UK?
[09:46] <meowbuntu> llutz, is vfat fat 32 or fat 16
[09:47] <root> hi
[09:47] <llutz> meowbuntu: fat32  ; after mounting:     sudo grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt  /dev/sdb
[09:47] <Guest30984> hi
[09:47] <meowbuntu> that installs grub from where
[09:47] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:48] <llutz> meowbuntu: installs grub2 on the usb-device
[09:48] <meowbuntu> llutz, can i pm you
[09:49] <eycel> its the same thing
[09:49] <eycel> ...
[09:49] <ori> how do i toggle my screensaver?
[09:49] <xiong> ori, Toggle how?
[09:50] <ori> xiong: someone once told me of a keyboard shortcut that disables the screen saver
[09:50] <xiong> ori, Can you find 'Screensaver Preferences'?
[09:50] <xiong> Ah. Hotkey I don't know, sorry.
[09:50] <ori> xiong: yeah, but i want to disable it often, so a shortcut would save time
[09:50] <xiong> I notice that hotcorner support has been dropped, BTW. Anybody know why?
[09:51] <eycel> pew pew
[09:53] <meowbuntu> hi i am trying to install grub to my 20gig usb hdd. i get this error. grub-setup: warn: Your embedding area is unusually small.  core.img won't fit in it.
[09:53] <meowbuntu> what can i do
[09:54] <xiong> meowbuntu, That is not much space for any sort of full install but it seems pretty large for a thumb drive.
[09:54] <xiong> Not huge but big enough.
[09:54] <meowbuntu> xiong, ist not vor a full install
[09:55] <Duke_> psycho_oreos - I have the Windows driver disc and ndiswrapper.
[09:55] <meowbuntu> its for a multiboot iso i need to copy grub to my usb hdd
[09:55] <meowbuntu> ^ xiong,
[09:55] <melvster> hi all i have two ubuntu boxes, one running on my desktop one in the cloud in EC2, i can easily talk from my desktop to my server (e.g. with SSH), but im unsure the best way to send a command from my server to my desktop, is it possible?