[18:26] <dr_willis> XDS2010: a 'live' setup should have the installer icon/program on it. unless you re using some other odd 'live' install method.
[18:26] <andycc> SpiderFriend: it's a C#-like language developed by Gnome, it compiles to pure C (so it's fast), and it's the primary language used by the Elementary project.
[18:26] <auronandace> BluesKaj: he wants you to discuss that in ops because this channel is for support
[18:26] <mneptok> also because the answer is not a one-liner.
[18:27] <RedXIII> Anyone help me out here? I randomly can't type in ubuntu 11.10
[18:27] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  it doesn't it sux
[18:27] <XDS2010> sorry thats just the way it is
[18:28] <auronandace> RedXIII: you using a wireless keyboard?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> mneptok, then don't answer ...I don't see the need to be directed to the ops chat for a simple answer to a question that all ubuntu chat users should know about
[18:28] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  you should be a bit more detailed in what you mean and are doing and how you did a 'live' install.
[18:28] <RedXIII> auronandace: No, laptop built in
[18:28] <RedXIII> works fine in other environments.
[18:28] <myrmidette> d
[18:28] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  ive definatly done live installs to flash drives and installed from them.
[18:28] <myrmidette> can anyone recommend a good simple gui email client for linux? gmail support such as priority inbox would be awesome
[18:28] <pepee> HQRaja, you  want to do it the easy way? if yes, I have no idea then
[18:28] <auronandace> RedXIII: as in other desktops? (xfce, kde etc.)
[18:28] <RedXIII> auronandace: Grub screen and windows 7
[18:29] <mneptok> myrmidette: so why not use the GMail web interface?
[18:29] <FiReSTaRT> An XFCE question.. I have 2 panels on the bottom, one on top of the other. When I maximize windows, they reach the top of the lower panel but the higher bottom panel covers the lower part of the windows. Is there a way to make the windows maximize to the top of the higher bottom panel? (xubuntu and xfce #'s are dead so I'm asking here)
[18:29] <auronandace> RedXIII: oh, are you using unity?
[18:29] <RedXIII> auronandace: I guess.. Its a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10
[18:29] <myrmidette> mneptok, because I want to use a client :)
[18:29] <edoceo> FiReSTaRT: not dead, just not as active.
[18:29] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  im running a live slax install right now on /sdb i have windows installed on /sda1 and want ubuntu to be able to dual boot on demand from /sda2
[18:29] <mneptok> myrmidette: claws-mail?
[18:29] <HQRaja> pepee: Yes, I want to accomplish the same task but with a shortcut...easy way :) I just need to do it quite frequently (basically upon every restart) and having to dig into the network settings each time is a hassle :(
[18:29] <edoceo> One of your panels is set "first", likely the smaller of the two, so it's being chosen as the border
[18:30] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  /sda2 is currently formatted with ext2
[18:30] <mneptok> myrmidette: dunno if claws supports all the GMail whizbang, but it's a rock-solid client
[18:30] <RedXIII> auronandace: I had been using it fine for the past 2 days. Then my restart this morning caused the keyboard not to function. (It was functioning prior to restart)
[18:30] <auronandace> RedXIII: i'd guess its a compiz issue, if you log out and log back in but pick no effects in the session box when you log in
[18:30] <dr_willis> XDS2010:   if you inssist on not using a ubuntu cd or flash drive. you should look into a debootstrap install of ubuntu. easier to just use a cd or flash.
[18:30] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  what dont you understand ?
[18:30] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: so if i put it on top of the other panel, it will become the border?
[18:31] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  this is the first time you actually explained what you were doing... and first you metnioned slax..
[18:31] <edoceo> I think you have to re-order the panel, so the larger one is "panel 1" not "panel 2"
[18:31] <RedXIII> auronandace: So basically pick "Gnome - No Effects" from "Ubuntu" on the login screen?
[18:31] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  no this is the first time you asked me to repeat myself
[18:31] <andycc> myrmidette: how about trying Postler?
[18:31] <RedXIII> auronandace: Or pick Ubuntu 2d fallback
[18:32] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: correction.. the windows are maximizing all the way to the bottom of the screen.. i just moved the lower panel above the higher panel and in the strip left underneath, i see the lower part of a maximized window
[18:32] <auronandace> RedXIII: i'd try no effects, to rule out compiz (i think unity 2d still uses compiz(i might be wrong))
[18:32] <andycc> RedXIII: both should work, as far as I can tell. The Ubuntu 2D fallback uses the Qt version of compiz.
[18:32] <asteve> do i need to run console-kit-daemon?
[18:32] <andycc> RedXIII: s/compiz/Unity, sorry.
[18:32] <RedXIII> The Gnome no effects doesn't work
[18:32] <RedXIII> Still no caps-lock lightup or key recognition
[18:32] <asteve> it's currently using 266mb on a 600mb system which is causing memory problems
[18:33] <Pici> auronandace: it does not use compiz at all. the 2d interface is built with qt in place of the fancy effects.
[18:33] <edoceo> FiReSTaRT: out of my realm, sry.  I think the panel block-out behaviour is only in play when the panels are fixed to the edge of the screen, when they become part of the border
[18:33] <pepee> HQRaja, try looking at the source code of the app that creates the ap
[18:33] <auronandace> Pici: oh, awesome, thanks for the info
[18:33] <edoceo> Else, panels that are not edge-attached do not become part of the edge
[18:33] <RedXIII> auronandace: And Ubuntu 2D doesn't work either.
[18:34] <auronandace> RedXIII: ah
[18:34] <auronandace> RedXIII: i'm not sure what to suggest sorry
[18:34] <pepee> HQRaja, that, or, if it is a simple icon, try searching for it
[18:35] <RedXIII> =/ I'll check google. thanks anyway
[18:35] <RedXIII> well okay.. Keyboard works after I resume from Suspend..
[18:35] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: any way to attach them to the edge that you know of?
[18:36] <edoceo> I generally put only one panel per edge, and they behave as top-level windows
[18:36] <edoceo> NAK, not top-level - edges
[18:36] <XDS2010> I don't understand what the big deal is,  I have windows installed on one partition and another partition thats blank, I am using a liveUSB OS , i want to install ubuntu and dual boot.  Where ITFM ?
[18:37] <HQRaja> pepee: The app is basically 'Networks'...the Networks settings panel found in System settings. Regarding the source code, I am not qualified enough to be able to understand that :(
[18:37] <Frogging101> Um... Why am I able to edit the titles, descriptions and status of bugs and answers on Launchpad?
[18:37] <XDS2010> Is there no such thing as a linux based installation ?
[18:37] <RedXIII> auronandace: Well.. Keyboard works fine after I woke it from Suspend once. Even though multiple restarts didn't do anything. I don't even...
[18:37] <auronandace> XDS2010: i don't understand your problem, can't you boot the livecd and install?
[18:37] <DeltaEpsilon> I am in love with ubuntu
[18:37] <HQRaja> DeltaEpsilon: Welcome to the club!
[18:37] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  you can use 'debootstrap' to install ubuntu to a drive from within a differnt linux os  if you dont want to boot a cd/flash.
[18:38] <RedXIII> Oh well. Weird issue seems to have solved itself x_x
[18:38] <auronandace> RedXIII: odd
[18:38] <pepee> HQRaja, sorry, but I use lxde, not gnome/unity/whatever
[18:38] <edoceo> My update says that the "the following have been kept back" - How to force them to install? I need the 'rails' that is being kept back
[18:38] <Xase> I have a question bout xorg and touchscreens
[18:38] <dr_willis> edoceo:  try a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[18:38] <HQRaja> pepee: Not a problem...thanks for trying to help. It's the thought that counts...really appreciate it =)
[18:38] <FiReSTaRT> edoceo: thanks anyway... i'll post on several forums and see what's up :)
[18:39] <asteve> how do i stop console-kit-daemon?
[18:40] <Phr3d13> XDS2010: what exactly are you asking?
[18:40] <XDS2010> auronandace: OMFG! i dont want to boot anything , i just want to install ubuntu right from linux
[18:40] <Xase> ...
[18:40] <pepee> HQRaja, :)
[18:40] <auronandace> XDS2010: from what linux?
[18:40] <edoceo> gosh,
[18:40] <pepee> XDS2010, google "hd-media install ubuntu"
[18:41] <XDS2010> dr_willis:  what is debbootstrap ive never heard of that is it new ?
[18:41] <edoceo> XDS2010: to install Ubuntu use the Ubuntu CD, not Slax
[18:41] <dr_willis> XDS2010:  first google hit -> debootstrap is a tool which will install a Debian base system into a subdirectory of another, already installed system. It doesn't require an installation CD, just access to a Debian repository. It can also be installed and run from another operating system,
[18:41] <dr_willis> http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
[18:41] <dr_willis> it can work with ubuntu.. somehow.
[18:41] <pepee> easiest and quickest way to install another distro
[18:41] <dr_willis> !debootstrap
[18:41] <Xase> Ubuntu doesn't see my touch screen, so I'm assuming I need to do some configuring of Xorg
[18:42] <XDS2010> ah i was searching debbootstrap
[18:42] <XDS2010> with two b's
[18:43] <edoceo> What was the tool to update rc scripts? chk-config? or ... ?
[18:43] <myrmidette> ok, I want to ask again: is there a linux email client with priority inbox support?
[18:44] <jordanm> edoceo: update-rc.d
[18:44] <edoceo> thx, just found :D
[18:45] <dr_willis> update-rc.d -> one of the oddest name programs ive ever seen
[18:45] <Phr3d13> As far as I know if the client has imap support it should work with priority inbox
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> Hey, um, I get this error message when I try to check for updates for Ubuntu 11.10.
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> The message is:  "W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:45] <jordanm> dr_willis: matches invoke-rc.d
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:45] <AwkwardPenguin> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:46] <AwkwardPenguin> , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[18:46] <FloodBot1> AwkwardPenguin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:46] <Xase> OMFG
[18:46] <urlin2u> AwkwardPenguin, you installed?
[18:46] <Xase> No one familiar with xorg/touchscreens?
[18:46] <dr_willis> AwkwardPenguin:  remove the cdrom from your soruces listing if you dont use a cd.
[18:47] <Phr3d13> AwkwardPenguin: go into sources,  uncheck the "cd" option
[18:47] <AwkwardPenguin> sry bout the flood. ^^;
[18:47] <jleclair> oigh. So, my USB hard drive is not detecting; at all. Doesn't show up in /dev or /dev/disk. I unplug it and wait 30 sec, plug it back in, and nothing in dmesg comes out. My mouse is USB, and that works, on the same port. Any ideas? I'm shooting in the dark here
[18:47] <jleclair> Ubu 11.10
[18:47] <urlin2u> Xase, you need to be specific like the computer model etc, and have you looked on the web/
[18:47] <zacktu> Thunderbird doesn't sync my Google Calendar after it was upgraded to 8.0.   It always required a special version of a plugin before.  Has that changed?
[18:47] <AwkwardPenguin> Okay, I'll give that  a try.
[18:47] <dr_willis> jleclair:  sounds like the HD may be dead.. does it make any noises? spin up? click?
[18:47] <Shaboom> http://baby.cn.yahoo.com/pic/
[18:47] <Xase> I've looked on the web. It's undocumented, ubuntu-arm recommended coming here and said you guys were good with X.
[18:47] <Xase> It's a Cypress TrueTouch
[18:48] <Xase> I'm trying to just use evtouch driver
[18:48] <Xase> Not sure on correct driver name, if even existent.
[18:48] <RedXIII> how do I directly input an address into the new ubuntu file manager?
[18:48] <trism> RedXIII: ctrl+L
[18:48] <Xase> Touch screen is compiled in my kernel. But Ubuntu definitely didn't detect it in any sort of way.
[18:48] <urlin2u> Shaboom, this is a english channel do not post random links please.
[18:48] <RedXIII> What an odd key combination..
[18:49] <Xase> urlin2u: that information a little more specific?
[18:49] <Xase> Computer model: Nook Color :)
[18:49] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  been ctrl-l for quite a few releases now...
[18:49] <RedXIII> I haven't upgraded in a while
[18:49] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  theres settings to make the address bar always show.
[18:49] <RedXIII> Where are those settings?
[18:49] <The_BROS> How to fix problem with skype? It eats lot of memory and sometimes freezes((.
[18:49] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  last i looked. ubuntu-tweak had them.  i just use ctrl-l as needed.
[18:50] <RedXIII> oh, I see. They moved the menu bar to the top of the screen? O_o weird.
[18:50] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  thats  the 'global menu'
[18:50] <auronandace> The_BROS: skype is closed source, ask the skype devs
[18:50] <dr_willis> RedXIII:   check out http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity
 (((
[18:51] <AwkwardPenguin> thanks guys. it worked! =)
[18:51] <trism> RedXIII: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences always-use-location-entry true;
[18:52] <dr_willis> RedXIII:  the webupd8 blog sites unity tweaking guide is a good read also.
[18:52] <sauk> hi
[18:53] <HQRaja> saberrr riderrrrrr...and the star sheriffs
[18:58] <HQRaja> BTW why cant one 'su' in ubuntu? any idea?
[18:59] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. is there a way to downgrade from gedit 3 to gedit 2 using a package manager?
[18:59] <soreau> HQRaja: try sudo -i
[18:59] <blime> HQRaja: root is disabled, use 'sudo -i'
[18:59] <HQRaja> I see...thanks
[19:01] <x__> evil woman... offered you my soul... you ran it over hot coals
[19:01] <aeon-ltd> ruslan_osmanov: i doubt it not without accessing some kind of old ppa to do so, there is likely .deb(s) for old versions of gedit for ubuntu anyway
[19:02] <oCean> x__: please stop random nonsense
[19:02] <w30> HQRaja, you can set it up by adding user root but you don't want to. Ubuntu is set up safer and uses sudo to gain privileges
[19:02] <batlock> ok so now i got gnome3
[19:02] <t_ubuntu> Hi, I'm not sure whether to ask this question here or in #kubuntu, but I'll try here first since there are more people:
[19:02] <t_ubuntu> Can I use the command shown on the following website to turn a kubuntu I would install over ubuntu (kubuntu-desktop package) into a "real/pure/clean" kubuntu, that is just as if I had installed it from the Kubuntu CD?
[19:02] <t_ubuntu> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:02] <batlock> but now cairo dock shows up in the upper left hand side of the screen instead of the bottom edge
[19:02] <FloodBot1> t_ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <w30> HQRaja, or if you must use sudo -i
[19:02] <BMT> How can i uninstall an app via. Terminal?
[19:03] <x__> oCean, yes sir sarge sir!
[19:03] <HQRaja> w30: Yup sudo -i or sudo bash (as someone else just told me on another channel) would work just fine...thanks :)
[19:03] <soreau> BMT: apt-get remove
[19:03] <ruslan_osmanov> aeon-ltd, I had troubles compiling it myself. So I'll find a deb, indeed. Thanks
[19:04] <BMT> soreau Thanks :)
[19:05] <aeon-ltd> ruslan_osmanov: when compiling it may require old(er) dependencies aswell, so will the deb (most likely anyways)
[19:05] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, to be honest your question is confusing can you give the long version of what you have installed completely?
[19:06] <ruslan_osmanov> aeon-ltd, perhaps it won't require dev packages
[19:06] <BMT> Is there anyway I can check what apps to download via. terminal using apt-get command?
[19:06] <b0ot> How do I get a wallpaper to spread across two monitors?
[19:06] <soreau> BMT: If searching for an app, you can try apt-cache search
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: mkaeshift method: use gimp break it into 2 then set each independently
[19:07] <b0ot> aeon-ltd, does that work in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:07] <t_ubuntu> I haven't done it yet, but my goal is to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, and so I found that website giving a command to get rid of ubuntu(-desktop), if you have installed it on an original kubuntu installation. Now I have an original ubuntu installation and want to turn it into a pure kubuntu (as it would be installed from a kubuntu cd) installing kubuntu-desktop and then running that command. But I'm not sure whether it wo
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: if you can set individual wallpapers per each monitor then yes it would
[19:07] <b0ot> aeon-ltd, it doesn't seem to let you
[19:07] <batlock> anyone have any idea when i tell cairo-dock to sit on the bottom of the screen, it shows up in the top left side of the screen?
[19:07] <b0ot> at least I don't know how to
[19:07] <t_ubuntu> Sorry for the complicated description, I hope you understand anyway what I want to do.
[19:08] <batlock> !cairo-dock
[19:08] <XDS2010> this is so gay, there has got to be a emdebian gui somwhere
[19:08] <batlock> !dock
[19:08] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: ok then, good luck
[19:08] <x__> all night long, in the rain and snow!
[19:09] <auronandace> x__: stop that please
[19:09] <XDS2010> urlin2u:  no? , Is that what we are going with ?
[19:09] <urlin2u> XDS2010, you might get out of that habit it is a oppressive stance
[19:10] <XDS2010> ok then.
[19:10] <jose> hola¿alguien habla español?
[19:10] <oCean> !es | jose
[19:10] <urlin2u> !es
[19:10] <mneptok> !away | BluesKaj-busy
[19:11] <XDS2010> With over 1000 people in here i didn't think that swearing would be a big deal, but since it bothers some people i'll keep it family friendly
[19:11] <XDS2010> urlin2u:  sorry if i offended you or your race
[19:12] <BMT> any recommended anti-virus for ubuntu 11.10?
[19:12] <urlin2u> XDS2010, not me personally it just shows a lack of cognitive development in your case.
[19:12] <auronandace> !av | BMT
[19:12] <sskalnik> BMT, there is no need for one ;)
[19:12] <soreau> XDS2010: assuming large groups of people dont have standards is just ignorant
[19:13] <m0ar_> hey everyone
[19:13] <soreau> hi m0ar_
[19:13] <m0ar_> just wanted to say hi, Im kind of new around here
[19:13] <soreau> ! irc
[19:14] <XDS2010> soreau:  assuming is ignorant IMHO as well
[19:14] <mneptok> XDS2010: drop it.
[19:14] <XDS2010> whats that old saying ?
[19:14] <oCean> !coc > XDS2010
[19:14] <soreau> XDS2010: Right so why would you think just because a channel has over 1000 people, its ok to swear?
[19:14] <auronandace> XDS2010: are you stuck with installing ubuntu?
[19:14] <mneptok> soreau: please stop
[19:15] <m0ar_> any good command based torrent clients?
[19:15] <Gentoo64> rtorrrent
[19:15] <batlock> it's like cairo dock only sees the screen as being like only 150 pixels wide or some shit
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Increased likelyhood of children in larger groups
[19:15] <batlock> and like 75 high
[19:15] <BMT> thanks guys :)
[19:15] <XDS2010> auronandace:  well i found wubi which is helpful, but no frontend for debootstrap
[19:15] <jordan> rtorrent, deluge, transmission all have command line
[19:15] <soreau> ! torrent | m0ar_
[19:15] <auronandace> BMT: no worries :)
[19:15] <m0ar_> okay I guess Im going to go with rtorrent
[19:16] <sskalnik> BMT welcome to the joys of ubuntu
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> m0ar_: transmission has cli as well as a web ui
[19:16] <auronandace> XDS2010: i'd recommend against wubi, better to simply just dual boot or use a vm
[19:16] <soreau> m0ar_: transmission is the default client in ubuntu and works quite well from my experiences
[19:16] <BMT> Im learning Linux, windows is too easy lol
[19:16] <m0ar_> okay I will look into transmission
[19:16] <mneptok> m0ar_: transmission-cli is a package you'll want to look at
[19:16] <XDS2010> debootstrap seems to only install arch's over a network installation, unfortunately where i am no i don't have access to a HSD connection.
[19:16] <m0ar_> thanx
[19:17] <Gentoo64> BMT, windows command line is cryptic compared to linux, lol
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Bmt: desktop yes, server not so simple
[19:17] <XDS2010> auronandace:  virtual machine ?
[19:17] <Gentoo64> guess you havent tried that>
[19:17] <mneptok> !info transmission-cli
[19:17] <auronandace> XDS2010: yes
[19:17] <batlock> well, looks like it's a fresh in stall, considering Ubuntu can't go more than 3 months running without breaking something
[19:17] <XDS2010> whats the point of that? , im trying to get away from windows, not disentangent it
[19:17] <batlock> maybe i'll switch back to windows
[19:17] <auronandace> XDS2010: wubi has no advantages for me so i find it useless to offer it to others
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: powershell makes windows cli awesome
[19:18] <Gentoo64> batlock, because ubuntu is the only distro
[19:18] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip, yeah its more like linux i suppose
[19:18] <soreau> batlock: You mean you cant go longer than three months without breaking your ubuntu ;)
[19:18] <batlock> no i mean i can't go longer than 3 months without ubuntu breaking
[19:18] <auronandace> XDS2010: a vm is a great testing ground before you make a leap to a dual install
[19:18] <XDS2010> Gentoo64:  why are you insulting batlock ? , He/she is only thinking what we all are thinking.
[19:18] <batlock> this whole thing started when compiz took a crap
[19:18] <soreau> batlock: What has broken?
[19:19] <Gentoo64> XDS2010, i didnt insult
[19:19] <soreau> batlock: Is compiz still not working for you?
[19:19] <xrandr-win7> hi. I just uninstalled the provided ubuntu nvidia module, and installed the latest nvidia module from nvidia's site. Now when i boot, i get the ubuntu splash screen and my screen keeps flickering
[19:19] <XDS2010> "[14:17] <Gentoo64> batlock, because ubuntu is the only distro"
[19:19] <Gentoo64> XDS2010, if you dont like ubuntu, that isnt the end of linux
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Wubi is fine but when it breaks its a real pain
[19:19] <XDS2010> Yes but you put it sarcasticly Gentoo64
[19:19] <Gentoo64> yeah
[19:19] <batlock> soreau, well cairo dock won't appear in the correct place on the screen, compiz won't work, i got gnome 3 but the window borders aren't showing right, GL is effed up even though I have the nvidia drivers installed, but wait, they're not in use, but i have composting kinda,
[19:19] <OttifantSir> I would like help with a problem: I have used Picasa and when deleting pictures via it, the folder created by the tag isn't deleted. The folder contains only Picasa.ini and the folder Originals with another Picasa.ini. I would like to be able to delete all these empty folders and leave all other folders via a bash-line. Anyone?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> xrandr-win7: nvidia drivers are in the official repos
[19:20] <batlock> and that's all that i can think of off the top of my head
[19:20] <soreau> batlock: Either your drivers are working or theyre not. What is the output of glxinfo|grep renderer?
[19:20] <batlock> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9600M GS/PCI/SSE2
[19:20] <sskalnik> xrandr-win7, You'll probably want to use the modules provided by ubuntu
[19:21] <batlock> but see.
[19:21] <soreau> batlock: Can you pastebin the output of compiz --replace to pastebin.com? Assuming you are in gnome3 fallback mode, not in gnome shell session
[19:21] <bekks> nvidia-current works fine with that chipset here.
[19:21] <batlock> xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[19:21] <batlock> NO
[19:21] <t_ubuntu> So, what do you think: Is it safe to use this "Remove Ubuntu" command on an original ubuntu installation with kubuntu-desktop installed?
[19:21] <t_ubuntu> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:21] <batlock> i will not compiz --replace
[19:21] <xrandr-win7> sskalnik, that's great, but how do i fix this problem?  You will need the web ui enabled
[19:22] <batlock> bekks, you think i haven't done that?
[19:22] <sskalnik> xrandr-win7, are you able to get to one with Alt F1/F2/F3 etc?
[19:22] <xrandr-win7> sskalnik, nope. just stuck at the ubuntu splash screen with the word ubuntu and 5 dots under it
[19:22] <soreau> batlock: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> xrandr-win7: hold shift at boot and select recovery mode then select root
[19:23] <xrandr-win7> ok
[19:23] <bekks> batlock: Yes, I know it, since the nvidia-driver isnt enabled.
[19:23] <batlock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761957/
[19:23] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, generally those commands on psychocats work fine but you can loose things you installed intermitently that are extras.
[19:23] <OttifantSir> I would like help with a problem: I have used Picasa and when deleting pictures via it, the folder created by the tag isn't deleted. The empty folder contains only Picasa.ini and the folder Originals with another Picasa.ini. I would like to be able to delete all these empty folders via a bash-line and leave all other folders and pictures.  You've been told multiple times this channel is for tech support only
[19:24] <t_ubuntu> urlin2u: Ok, but as they write configs should not be deleted by the command, so the risk of breaking the entire system and having to reinstall is rather low, isn't it?
[19:24] <batlock> bekks, ok lemmie relogin and see what the result is (it will be the same)
[19:25] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, theoretically yes.
[19:25] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, if your real worried clone it with clonezilla first.
[19:25] <batlock> bekks,  gee, i did all taht
[19:25] <batlock> but guess what
[19:25] <batlock> xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[19:25] <batlock> still not in use
[19:25] <batlock> you failed to realize it's a bug
[19:26] <bekks> batlock: Then nopaste your xorg.conf.
[19:26] <soreau> batlock: If you login to a ubuntu2D session, compiz should work fine without unity
[19:26] <Gentoo64> batlock, i think thats a cosmetic bug
[19:26] <t_ubuntu> urlin2u: ok, thanks, that's what I wanted to know from more knowledgeable users before I try. I'll do a backup of any important files first, that should be enough (I don't know clonezilla).
[19:26] <bekks> batlock: If it is a bug - why do I have no problems with a similar setup here?
[19:26] <Gentoo64> batlock, ive heard loads of people getting that message (not in use) when its actually working
[19:26] <bekks> batlock: And along with the xorg.conf, nopaste the according Xorg.0.log
[19:26] <XDS2010> was ubuntu always debian based ?
[19:26] <m0ar_> window_history ON
[19:27] <Resistance> XDS2010:  yews
[19:27] <Resistance> yes*
[19:27] <batlock> bekks, so you have a laptop with a 9600 gsm in it that works perfect?
[19:27] <batlock> and your drivers are in use?
[19:27] <bekks> batlock: Exactly.
[19:27] <m0ar_> scrollback_lines = 500
[19:27] <batlock> xorg.conf
[19:27] <batlock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761964/
[19:28] <batlock> bekks, so how's that asus doing then?
[19:28] <bekks> batlock: I never bought Asus until now - I have no clue what they are doing ;) Where's your Xorg.0.log?
[19:28] <batlock> also
[19:28] <urlin2u> t_ubuntu, clonezilla is a bootable cloning app you can save the whole thing and reinstall if needed, backing up partially is okay but I use clonezilla to get a full image often. http://clonezilla.org/
[19:29] <batlock> bekks, i dunno, if i knew where it was it'd be posted
[19:29] <OffGridOps> A fellow from Cannonical asked me "Would it be possible for you to test the latest upstream kernel?  v3.2-rcN kernel"  This is from a bug I cited here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/900594
[19:29] <OffGridOps> How do I do this?
[19:29] <GatorAlli> I have a shell script in cron.hourly. How do I find out the time that cron activates the hour trigger?
[19:29] <Gentoo64> OffbeatAdam, why did he ask you then, lol
[19:29] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, ^
[19:29] <MooMooCow_> Does anyone know why there is no more Ubuntu training?  http://webapps.ubuntu.com/course_locator/
[19:29] <OffGridOps> yeah
[19:30] <batlock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/761966/   xorg.0.log
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> OffGridOps: try precise in live cd and you'll get it
[19:30] <diesch> GatorAlli: have look at /etc/crontab
[19:30] <Phr3d13> How do I start network manager from a terminal?
[19:30] <OffGridOps> can u put that in laymans terms?
[19:30] <OffGridOps> i have only a usb stick i dumped from the net
[19:31] <ViaNocturna> OffGridOps, what he means is that you get 12.04 (Precise) from the live cd/usb
[19:31] <bekks> batlock: according to your current Xorg.0.log, nvidia actually _is_ in use. You can try to start nvidia-settings now to verify it.
[19:31] <OffGridOps> ah, so they want me to install 12.04?
[19:32] <batlock> bekks, this is what i just told you
[19:32] <auronandace> OffGridOps: no just use live cd
[19:32] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, if it contains that kernel, its the easiest way to test it
[19:32] <trism> OffGridOps: the kernel he wants you to test is here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc4-oneiric/ , download the one for your arch and install with: sudo dpkg -i linux-image*.deb;
[19:32] <batlock> it's a BUG
[19:32] <Gentoo64> batlock, i told you its a cosmetic bug
[19:32] <batlock> which is why i said it's working but its not but it is
[19:32] <batlock> Gentoo64, yep
[19:32] <hidensoft> hi , how i can create L2TP VPN connection ?
[19:32] <Gentoo64> who cares if it works
[19:32] <OffGridOps> is there any coming back from it in a worst case scenario?  thanx btw
[19:32] <batlock> cause it doesn't
[19:32] <Hilarie> bleh, wb me, if I edit resolve.conf to the DNS's I want, will they be the default for each connection I make?
[19:32] <Barbarian> OffGridOps, You can run linux OS just from the cd with nothing installed. Google unetbootin
[19:33] <batlock> because jockey is reporting it's not in use, things are broke
[19:33] <Gentoo64> OffGridOps, you dont install a livecd
[19:33] <batlock> things that aren't broke in 10.10
[19:33] <trism> OffGridOps: just select the previous kernel from grub (hold shift to get the menu if necessary) and you can easily remove it
[19:33] <batlock> i.e. cairo-dock, composting in KDE, etc
[19:33] <OffGridOps> i guess you're saying dump that onto a usb stick and they run the OS off the stick?
[19:33] <Gentoo64> yeah
[19:33] <batlock> example, if i switch to the kde session, then open a terminal, then resize that terminal, i get a total system lockup
[19:33] <Gentoo64> the kernels still in use
[19:33] <ViaNocturna> OffGridOps, a live cd is basically linux on a cd (or usb with unetbootin) it allows you to run ubuntu without installing just from cd/usb
[19:33] <batlock> i can't even sysreq REISUB
[19:33] <Barbarian> OffbeatAdam, Exactly!
[19:34] <Barbarian> oops
[19:34] <Gentoo64> batlock, dont sound good does it
[19:34] <PIE-OB> anyone working with openxenmanager by any chance ?
[19:34] <batlock> the graphics just poops
[19:34] <OffGridOps> alrighty!  thank you all very much!
[19:34] <MooMooCow_> Does anyone know why there is no more Ubuntu training?  http://webapps.ubuntu.com/course_locator/  I'm trying to find some training for Ubuntu Server.
[19:34] <trism> the kernel in precise is not the upsteam kernel, so not really the correct suggestion here
[19:34] <batlock> imma go run and find out something about the upcoming release
[19:35] <OffGridOps> this guy was specific in what he wanted ran --- that version i listed.  said it wasn't a daily build
[19:35] <Gentoo64> 3.2rc4 afaik is the latest
[19:35] <OttifantSir> I have used Picasa and when deleting pictures via it, the folder created by the tag isn't deleted. The folder contains only Picasa.ini and the folder Originals with another Picasa.ini. I would like to be able to delete all these empty folders and leave all other folders via a bash-line. Anyone?
[19:35] <OffGridOps> i'm a non coder so i am sorry i am not too educated but i want to help fix what is wrong
[19:35] <auronandace> OffGridOps: listen to trism's suggestion
[19:36] <Gentoo64> well 3.2rc4 youd prob have to manually install
[19:36] <Gentoo64> unless theres some ppa for it
[19:36] <t_ubuntu> urlin2u: Thanks for the explanation. I should have a look at clonezilla :)
[19:36] <t_ubuntu> bye
[19:36] <random8737> Q). how would one create a dynamic dns service like dyndns, but for private use?
[19:37] <joesigal2134> http://bit.ly/uPBolO does this problem have to do with ubuntu?
[19:38] <bekks> joesigal2134: Do NOT advertise crap sites in here please.
[19:38] <auronandace> joesigal2134: what was that meant to link to?
[19:38] <oCean> joesigal2134: stop posting nonsense links
[19:39] <themachinegun> hey..!
[19:39] <auronandace> themachinegun: don't say "stick 'em up"
[19:39] <xrandr> thanks for all your help guys. I got the X server running right :)
[19:39] <hidensoft> no way ?
[19:40] <k2iguvahetaja> hey
[19:40] <batlock> bekks, let me put it to you this way, if i DON'T use the nvidia drivers and rely on the 'experimental 3D drivers' i can actually use things like compiz, without any issues, but i get issues between logouts and such (the screen breaks severly, screenshots show no problems but the screen is all fractal)  then once i pop back to ANY nvidia driver (previous ver, current ver, or straight from nvidia) i can still use composting, but compiz won't do titlebars on th
[19:40] <batlock> e windows, i lose all ability to type in any window, etc.
[19:40] <xrandr> i got so used to running fedora. Now I can't because their 64 bit version doesn't boot
[19:40] <k2iguvahetaja> has anyone's ubuntu 11.10 also flipped today?
[19:41] <batlock> and this is ONLY in 11.xx
[19:41] <themachinegun> i m using Ylms OS is it best for hacking tools
[19:41] <batlock> so something's broke in ubuntu 11.xx
[19:41] <auronandace> k2iguvahetaja: flipped?
[19:41] <k2iguvahetaja> like it worked good for 11.10
[19:41] <bekks> batlock: Nvidia works very fine here with 11.04 and 11.10.
[19:41] <MahaVishnu> im starting to think ubuntu is flipped -_-
[19:41] <k2iguvahetaja> but today everything behaves unpredictably
[19:42] <ViaNocturna> k2iguvahetaja, im afraid you have to be a little more precise than that lol
[19:42] <MahaVishnu> Ubuntu 12.0 FlippedFox
[19:42] <k2iguvahetaja> first strike was php5 fuser forkbomb in cron
[19:42] <Trudko> Guys I have pretty crappy PC which I need for work until I will get a new one. I have only 1GB Ram and I need to develop a little for android using eclipse / java. It is ubuntu good for that? I need to use it less ram then XP
[19:42] <k2iguvahetaja> and after restart was black screen, reinstalled old nvidia drivers
[19:42] <k2iguvahetaja> now java isnt working anymore
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> and chromium and chrome displayed a lot of oh snaps
[19:43] <delight> how can i set the default char set encoding to utf-8 on my mysql-db (lucid) ?
[19:43] <oCean> k2iguvahetaja: using ylms os?
[19:43] <auronandace> Trudko: you might want to try lubuntu
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> after 3rd restart chrome seems ok
[19:43] <auronandace> !lubuntu | Trudko
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> Im using ubuntu 11.10 but I installed xfce
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> and there Im using compiz :P
[19:43] <k2iguvahetaja> so its kinda of everything :D
[19:43] <karl-augustt> Please in /usr/src/linux  dos , which of file give or speak about kernel constructions?
[19:44] <karl-augustt> Please in /usr/src/linux  dos , which of files give or speak about kernel constructions?
[19:44] <Trudko> auronandace: thank you for tip, can please tell me in short , why it should be better ?
[19:44] <Trist> Trudko: android works great with android emulator, but 1gb might be not enough. Selecting "snapshot feature" will help improve.
[19:44] <k2iguvahetaja> what was the change with /run and /var/run in 11.10?
[19:44] <k2iguvahetaja> maybe it's related to this
[19:44] <Trist> *ubuntu works great...
[19:44] <auronandace> Trudko: lxde is very lightweight, less resource intensive than most other desktops
[19:44] <mindaugas52> hello. any1 knows wtf is this: ? fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 32 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
[19:45] <k2iguvahetaja> every desktop env is great when you have compiz :D
[19:45] <Trudko> Trist: whats snaphost? and I dont use emulator I am using phone directly. Btw will Ubuntu detec my HTC Desire Z phone without problem?
[19:45] <Trudko> auronandace: thx
[19:46] <Archenom> cell phones are a waste of time
[19:46] <ViaNocturna> Trudko, i have an android and have had the Wildfire, no problems with detection
[19:46] <k2iguvahetaja> does anyone knows how to kill a process which is "defunct"?
[19:46] <raptor67682> hello world
[19:46] <k2iguvahetaja> -9 does not help
[19:46] <raptor67682> would oyu knonw how to send a fax with LINUX?
[19:47] <batlock> bekks, well is there any testing utility to tell me whether or not my gfx card is flailing>
[19:47] <batlock> ?
[19:47] <murder--> when I try to boot Ubuntu 11 DVD it says 'initramfs - Unable to find a medium containing a live file system'
[19:47] <Trudko> ViaNocturna: good to hear thanks.
[19:47] <Archenom> who sends a fax anymore?
[19:48] <Trist> Trudko: "Snapshot" is a feature that Android SDK, has. Yes, there is a high chance that Ubuntu will detect the HTC, make sure you got USB debugging (on your phone).
[19:48] <oCean> Archenom: when helping, be helpful.
[19:48] <jose> hola¿alguien habla español?
[19:48] <auronandace> !es | jose
[19:48] <vortmax> Archenom: doctors & lawyers
[19:48] <urlin2u> jose, this is an english channel.
[19:48] <bekks> batlock: I already told you. nvidia-settings.
[19:48] <Trudko> Trist: yes I got it, I am using it sucess. under win xp.
[19:49] <k2iguvahetaja> ok, java is completely dead, sun, openjdk 6 & 7
[19:49] <Archenom> im sorry
[19:49] <Trist> Trudko: Check youtube for a video call "Setting Up the Android SDK in Ubuntu or Debian Linux ", there is a part on how to make sure HTC works under Ubuntu.
[19:50] <raptor67682> Archenom:  me ;)
[19:50] <raptor67682> vortmax: indeed. lawyers
[19:50] <auronandace> raptor67682: and hopefully the person you are sending it to
[19:50] <raptor67682>  I saw that there is a probably "sendfax"  command, but I guess it is with modem
[19:51] <gnat_x> i recently switched my folks' computer from using unity to xfce. after doing so a screen reader was turned on, any thoughts on turning it off.
[19:51] <raptor67682>   I have an USB printer with Sane
[19:51] <DeltaEpsilon>  20:51:10 up 2 days,  3:10,  0 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.06
[19:51] <batlock> So yea, looks like imma flop back to 10.04 fer now
[19:51] <k2iguvahetaja> sound stopped :D
[19:53] <waralot> hey?
[19:54] <gnubie> raptor67682,  the ubuntu software center list several apps with a search for fax, I suspect all use modems to reach the phone line.
[19:54] <waralot> if teh are any contributer's here than thanks to you =)
[19:55] <waralot> there*
[19:55] <ViaNocturna> have you checked efax?
[19:57] <waralot> also is it true that i can run almost all the window's program's on ubuntu?
[19:57] <sviesusisalus> hey. what software are you using to benchmark cpu and hdd on ubuntu ?
[19:57] <auronandace> waralot: not really, you can try them in wine and they might work
[19:57] <auronandace> waralot: a better solution is a windows vm
[19:57] <ViaNocturna> waralot, not all but check http://winehq.org for Wine, the program that allows Windows programs to be ran on Ubuntu, it has a list of which work and which don't
[19:58] <karl-augustt> Please can we find linux code in /usr/src/linux?
[19:58] <waralot> why doesent ubunte fix that? or cant they?
[19:58] <PIE-OB> anyone working with openxenmanager by any chance ?
[19:59] <auronandace> waralot: how would they?
[19:59] <karl-augustt> How compile the linux kernel?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> !kernel | karl-augustt
[20:00] <waralot> idk im just thinking that might convince a lot of people.do you by any change now if that is done on purpose?
[20:00] <dubbe> waralot: linux != windows
[20:00] <auronandace> waralot: you are new to linux aren't you?
[20:00] <dgjones> waralot: Two different things, would you expect a diesel car to run to run on petrol?
[20:01] <waralot> @dubbe that true yeay.
[20:01] <waralot> @auronandace i am do you have a few post or vids to fill me in?
[20:02] <auronandace> waralot: fill you in on what exactly?
[20:02] <auronandace> !manual | waralot
[20:02] <waralot> @dgjones no but i would seriouly care for a car that does both
[20:02] <raptor67682> efax looks to be via MODEM
[20:02] <xrandr> i gotta get used to ubuntu again lol :)
[20:02] <raptor67682> :(
[20:03] <vg> hi
[20:03] <auronandace> xrandr: don't worry, it doesn't mean you have to get used to unity :)
[20:03] <xrandr> lol :)
[20:03] <vg> somebody help me for disable Unity?
[20:03] <waralot> @auronandace thank's il take a look
[20:03] <auronandace> waralot: no worries :)
[20:04] <vg> help?
[20:04] <gnubie> raptor67682,  efax.com I believe he meant
[20:04] <Barbarian> !nounity | vg
[20:04] <auronandace> vg: disable how? you want to use a different desktop environment?
[20:05] <vg> yes i want to use Ubuntu whitout Unity
[20:05] <Barbarian> vg See the post by ubottu
[20:05] <waralot> @auronandace yep i was just like: "well isent it faster? and isent it free and open source? so tha last thing is will it run windows program's?" but that will remain a dream
[20:05] <auronandace> vg: my favourite is xfce (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)
[20:06] <lnxslck> anyone has nvidia graphic card installed ?
[20:06] <Barbarian> lnxslck, I do
[20:06] <auronandace> waralot: you might be interested in wine or even reactos (but thats a little off-topic for this channel)
[20:06] <Barbarian> lnxslck, lemme guess, Optimus enabled?
[20:07] <lnxslck> Barbarian, how did you install it? i did apt-get install nvidia-current and then nvidia-xsetting and got a back screen every time i wanted to login
[20:07] <waralot> @auronandace ooh and one little thing. i like to fiddle around whit java,c++,c#,vb.net,html,php,javascript,enz can i stll do that?
[20:07] <lnxslck> Barbarian, i have a laptop with intel graphci card integrated and an nvidia graphic card too
[20:07] <auronandace> waralot: thankfully, i only need one windows app and it works in wine
[20:07] <waralot> @auronandace and okay and thx btw
[20:08] <Barbarian> lnxslck, Does your model of graphics card advertise something called "Optimus" technology?
[20:08] <auronandace> waralot: sure
[20:08] <waralot> @auronandace lukky you
[20:08] <dubbe> i have to dual-boot linux/windows until either flash dies or works on linux, either one works for me
[20:08] <auronandace> waralot: vb and .net might be a little trickier
[20:08]  * Barassa is away, auto-away after 15 minutes, (log\off pager\on)
[20:09] <auronandace> waralot: you could use mono for .net, but vb is very microsoft only
[20:09] <karl-augustt> Please some information about the big computer that
[20:09] <waralot> @auronandace mmm...that quite a knock back
[20:09] <karl-augustt> china have just construct?
[20:09] <waralot> @auronandace well so only not vb? i can live whit that
[20:09] <Jordan_U> waralot: Yes, but I don't know how well VB.net is supported and while C# is well supported, not all of C# .net is. Look into mono for C# and .net.
[20:09] <karl-augustt> Please some information about the big computer that china have just construct?
[20:09] <karl-augustt> which is his capacity
[20:10] <Jordan_U> !ot | karl-augustt
[20:10] <mang0> I know this is offtopic, but could someone please hilight me?
[20:10] <karl-augustt> thanks
[20:10] <auronandace> mang0: ok
[20:10] <waralot> i hear the name mono drop a few times before il read up on it. if i dont get back here thanks for the welcome to ubuntu
[20:10] <Jordan_U> mang0: Next time please use #test.
[20:10] <auronandace> waralot: have fun :)
[20:11] <lwizardl> I need help with getting my headphones working yet again. seems the newest updates killed it again
[20:11] <lnxslck> Barbarian, dont think so
[20:11] <waralot> @auronandace thank's well the support is far better than ms now my w7 crush =(
[20:11] <Barbarian> lnxslck, What model is it?
[20:12] <xxx_x> I am having trouble with 10.04, I need to stop some processes and services at startup but bum is not stopping programs, can anyone help?
[20:12] <the_misfit> what is sudo aticonfig --initial -f telling me to do exactly
[20:12] <lnxslck> Barbarian, asus k53s
[20:12] <auronandace> xxx_x: bum?
[20:13] <geoffmcc> boot up manager
[20:13] <the_misfit> its the last command in a supposed workaround for my video card in askubuntu
[20:13] <waralot> @auronandace ooh wait something hit me. is there anything i should know about partitions?
[20:13] <lnxslck> Barbarian, http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K53SC/#specifications
[20:13] <Barbarian> lnxslck, One sec, looking it up
[20:13] <xxx_x> auronandace. bootup-manager
[20:13] <vg> auronandance: can i disable unity and put gnome classic ?
[20:13] <auronandace> geoffmcc: oh, thanks
[20:13] <lnxslck> Barbarian, this is the link: http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Versatile_Performance/K53SC/#specifications
[20:13] <lnxslck> Barbarian, just wanted to get nvidia drivers working
[20:13] <xxx_x> auronandace, i believe the package is called bum
[20:13] <auronandace> waralot: what you need to know about partitions?
[20:13] <raptor67682> yes. I meant that efax is for modem but not to fax to USB printer fax machine
[20:14] <lnxslck> Barbarian, using the xorg file created by nvidia causes my login manager to freeze
[20:14] <vg> auronandace: can u help me please?
[20:14] <Barbarian> lnxslck, I have a sneaking suspicion it's the same problem I had
[20:14] <auronandace> vg: someone told you how earlier
[20:14] <lnxslck> Barbarian, what have you done to fix it?
[20:14] <vg> auronandace : can i disable Unity and install gnome-shell
[20:14] <auronandace> !notunity | vg
[20:15] <waralot> @auronandace well when i instaled w7 i had to delte the a partitions and make a new one (leving drive d and somthing reserved for oem?) and my questions is can i delete those or?
[20:15] <nibalizer> t
[20:15] <Jordan_U> vg: Gnome2 is no longer supported by GNOME, and therefore is not supported by any recent distribution (even outside Ubuntu).
[20:15] <xxx_x> all i want to do is stop all network proceses at startup so I can create my own at every boot, can anyone help?
[20:15] <Barbarian> lnxslck, get this ppa https://launchpad.net/~mj-casalogic/+archive/ironhide do "sudo apt-get install ironhide" and whenever you wanna run a program using the card preface it with "optirun"
[20:15] <Jordan_U> vg: You can try the GNOME Fallback mode, as mentioned by ubottu, though.
[20:16] <auronandace> waralot: you can have up to 4 main partitions, an extended partition holds logical partitions
[20:16] <vg> Jordan_U: but how...im noob. some help please
[20:16] <waralot> @auronandace "auronandace is now thinking: you studpid noob rtfm!"
[20:16] <waralot> lol okay thx and bye
[20:17] <Jordan_U> vg: Install the "gnome-panel" package and select "GNOME Fallback" from the sessions dropdown on the login screen.
[20:17] <raptor67682> and hp-sendfax soounds good. However it has no backend
[20:17] <geoffmcc> !away | pickart
[20:19] <lnxslck> Barbarian, that's not the kind of solution i'm looking for but thanks anyway
[20:19] <Barbarian> lnxslck, it's not the one I wanted either
[20:19] <geoffmcc> lnxslck: are you using nvidia-current?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> heh, the response to away messages clutters the text more than the message itself
[20:19] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, not right now
[20:19] <Barbarian> lnxslck, But nvidia is well known for only supporting windows
[20:20] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, i cant get nv or nvidia driver to work
[20:20] <geoffmcc> lnxslck: have you gone to drivers and enabled it?
[20:20] <lnxslck> Barbarian, not really, i had nvidia a log time ago on linux with no problems
[20:20] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, yes
[20:21] <lnxslck> geoffmcc, Barbarian : i have to go, but i will check with you guys later, thanks for the help
[20:21] <BluesKaj> ins look in admin>additional drivers and choose the "recommended driver" install it then activate if needed
[20:21] <geoffmcc> lnxslck: oh i got a url for ya to try
[20:21] <Barbarian> geoffb, too late
[20:21] <geoffmcc> Barbarian: oh well
[20:22] <BluesKaj> no patience , instant gratification is the order of the generation
[20:22] <arlo> hello anyone can help me to set $cfg['UploadDir'] = '' in phpmyadmin ?
[20:22] <Torcpu> Anyhow to fix my windowmanager in 3d mode when I played with compiz and got all launchers and menubars and such disappear?
[20:22] <Torcpu> Need to reset the settings somehow..
[20:23] <arlo> anyone can help to set sav directory on phpmyadmin, with teamwiewer?
[20:23] <DeltaEpsilon> I am building an gnome shell extension. is it possible for me to include it in Ubuntu (by default if possible)?
[20:23] <The_BROS> Anybody knows any easy program to make gif-anymated pictures? Like banners for site
[20:23] <EvilResistance> arlo:  first off try in #ubuntu-server
[20:24] <EvilResistance> arlo:  secondly, we dont usually fix stuff for people... we try and nudge people into understanding how to fix things, sometimes we just tell you how to fix it, and that's how people learn ;P
[20:24] <raptor67682>  found ,,... would you know how crontab can post you if there is a change onto the page : http://blog.mypapit.net/2007/09/hp-officejet-5680-how-to-send-fax-from-ubuntu-linux-computer.html
[20:24] <raptor67682> (email you with mutt)
[20:24] <Acro> Valla ¿algun canal de ayuda en Español?
[20:24] <vg> #Ubuntu-es
[20:24] <Pici> !es | Acro
[20:24] <EvilResistance> darn, ninja'd
[20:25] <Acro> gracias
[20:25] <skegeek> I need help with LDAP. I was installing eBox and after I rebooted LDAP password is always incorrect at login.
[20:26] <Torcpu> Any help how to reset unity and compiz window manager settings to default? I screwed something up with compiz making launcher and stuff disappear.
[20:28] <arlo__> anyone can help me with set PHPmyadmin in ubunti with teamwiewer?
[20:28] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I create a disk image of 500MB?
[20:28] <zykes->  can ubuntu boot from a software raid 0 ?
[20:31] <yourstrly> DeltaEpsilon: image for qemu?
[20:31] <Vermind> Hi, I am using Oneiric with gnome-shell. I have switched to the dark version of the Adwaita theme, and everything is fine in all GNOME3 apps. For GNOME2 apps, such as Firefox and Pidgin, the titlebar is white. Any ideas how I can make it dark like in GNOME3 apps?
[20:32] <DeltaEpsilon> yourstrly, just a empy raw image for android emulator as sd card
[20:32] <Klavier> "rebuild pcsc-lite without HAL support." how can i do that?
[20:34] <Pici> Klavier: In what context?
[20:34] <joemigal> hello
[20:34] <joemigal> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:34] <Klavier> Pici, i have a smartcard reader
[20:34] <Pici> joemigal: Do not advertise here.
[20:34] <joemigal> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[20:34] <DJones> joemigal: And thats relevant to Ubuntu how?
[20:35] <Klavier> but i cant use that, i read a document says: rebuild pcsc-lite without HAL
[20:35] <Klavier> how can i do that
[20:35] <Klavier> do you know answer Pici
[20:35] <trism> Vermind: there is a thread about that here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=928975
[20:35] <peghorse> Hi
[20:35] <yourstrly> DeltaEpsilon: read android sdk docs
[20:35] <peghorse> Please i need help to make my scan of Konica 1680 mf
[20:36] <Pici> Klavier: You'd need to look at how that was compiled and if possible remove the option to build with HAL support.
[20:36] <wolfric> my alt f2 doesn't seem to work any more (opening run). I'm using 11.10 in gnome-failover or failsafe or whatever
[20:36] <peghorse> i need help to install this scan Konica 1680 MF plz
[20:36] <wolfric> any ideas to diagnose?
[20:36] <yourstrly> DeltaEpsilon: http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/devices/emulator.html#sdcard
[20:36] <Klavier> how can check that Pici
[20:37] <wolfric> in fact it's alt f1 and f2 not working
[20:37] <Pici> Klavier: If the source gets configured with ./configure, you can look at the options to that.
[20:41] <Klavier> Pici,   LIBHAL_CFLAGS
[20:41] <Klavier>               C compiler flags for LIBHAL, overriding pkg-config
[20:41] <Klavier>   LIBHAL_LIBS linker flags for LIBHAL, overriding pkg-config
[20:41] <NeedSomeHelp> hello, anyone here know Gimp ?
[20:41] <Klavier> these are Some influential environment variables,
[20:41] <Vermind> trism: Hmm, it seems I had to move the Adwaita theme to my $HOME/.themes and rename it, then change to it using gnome-tweak-tool, and then the theme actually also changes the titlebar of GTK2 apps to a dark one. Funny that the same theme in /usr/share/themes would not work.
[20:41] <Klavier> for ./configure command of pcsc-lite
[20:42] <jrib> NeedSomeHelp: #gimp if you have a usage question.  For ubuntu-related gimp questions (like how to install, etc.) ask here :)
[20:42] <Klavier> how should i use them Pici
[20:42] <Pici> Klavier: I don't know enough about pcsc-lite to advise you either way.
[20:42] <aubreyja_> Hi - does anyone have experience with evault as a backup vendor?
[20:42] <wolfric> anyone happen to use aws? anyone seen the byobu for ubuntu on aws? I've no idea where this is implemented, but i have a little tag there showing me a counter for what i can only assume is aws cost for the machine
[20:43] <Pici> wolfric: I use byobu, not on aws though.  Are you asking how that is implemented?
[20:44] <wolfric> Pici: no i just think it's cool. but yeah i'd be interested to know how it's implemented
[20:44] <rhizmoe> it would be nice if i had time to reinstall
[20:45] <Pici> wolfric: Take a look at /usr/lib/byobu/ec2_cost
[20:50] <XDS2010> i tried installing ubuntu with wubi but when i reboot its telling me it cant find the installation.iso
[20:50] <wolfric> Pici: cheers for that
[20:50] <XDS2010> does anyone know whats wrong ?
[20:50] <XDS2010> I searched on the ubuntu forums but couldn't find any answers
[20:51] <XDS2010> :(
[20:51] <XDS2010> bbiab
[20:52] <BluesKaj> tried installing XDS2010 ? did you see it install on wubi ?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> it's probly in your windows downloads file
[20:52] <BluesKaj> the iso that is , XDS2010_
[20:54] <graingert> anyone know how to get firefox to read from firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-GB rather than firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US ?
[20:57] <Boreeas> Is there a command to reload the sound drivers?
[20:57] <NeedSomeHelp> There are no one in #Gimp. Anyone here know Gimp ?
[20:58] <auronandace> Boreeas: checked alsamixer to see if they are muted?
[20:58] <graingert> NeedSomeHelp: yep
[20:59] <the_misfit> How can I see if my current settings support 3D acceleration?
[21:00] <Boreeas> auronandace: I can actually hear some weird feeping/beeping noises, but not really what I'm expecting to hear.
[21:00] <jose> hola
[21:00] <auronandace> jose: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:01] <auronandace> Boreeas: odd
[21:01] <auronandace> !sound | Boreeas
[21:03] <jose> alguien que hable spanish
[21:03] <Boreeas> auronandace: Thank's I'll look into it
[21:03] <Pici> !es | jose
[21:05] <WINODX> GUYS UBUNTU IS FOR FAGS WHO CANT USE REEL COMPUTERS LIKE WINDOWS AND WHO DON HAVE THE MONEY FOR WORD.
[21:05] <NeedSomeHelp> graingert: When I use Text along path and put the text on a black background, I select white fg  colour. But only the border of the text (in green!)  shows up on the path's position. How do I get the text along path white ?
[21:05] <compdoc> REEL COMPUTERS - lol
[21:05] <WINODX> You guys suck.
[21:05] <graingert> NeedSomeHelp: odd
[21:06] <jrib> compdoc: are you not familiar with the movie industry!?
[21:07] <compdoc> sheese - I never realized! I hope I didnt hurt his feelings
[21:08] <graingert> NeedSomeHelp: that's intentional they just add the text to the path
[21:08] <graingert> http://gimp-tutorials.net/gimp-text-to-path-tutorial
[21:09] <Barbarian> btw, lol at how ineffective that troll was
[21:09] <Barbarian> he came, he saw, he got banhammered
[21:10] <daw> hej
[21:10] <Barbarian> o/
[21:10] <Crankygeek> whois mbroker
[21:10] <conntrack> is it a full moon?
[21:12] <charnel> how can I create a shortcut in the launchbar in Ubuntu 11.10 unity I want to have a sh files link in there
[21:14] <geoffmcc> charnel: should just have to drag the file you want in the launcher onto the launcher
[21:15] <biggibbig> Hey!
[21:15] <charnel> geoffmcc, Nope that does not work When I drag the file nothing happens
[21:15] <FerchoLP> why is still Virtualbox 4.1.2 in ubuntu repos while its latest version is on 4.1.6? is it beause it has to pass through debian repos first?
[21:16] <charnel> I am trying to have a link of RubyMine in my launch bar
[21:16] <auronandace> !latest | FerchoLP
[21:16] <jrib> FerchoLP: well that's part of the reason, the other is that once an ubuntu version is released, only updates due to security issues (see !sru) are done
[21:16] <biggibbig> I was told that terminal was in the applications folder, but I can't find it. I'm sorta new to this.
[21:17] <FerchoLP> but still, ubuntu is based on debian testing, right? I thought it was based on stable
[21:17] <biggibbig> Can you guys help me find it?
[21:18] <Barbarian> !ppa
[21:18] <Barbarian> !backport
[21:18] <EvilResistance> Barbarian:  can we help you>?
[21:19] <Barbarian> EvilResistance, read the botpost put up by auronandace and wanted to read a bit more about it
[21:19] <biggibbig> I was told you guys were helpful, but you're not even. I'm going back to nextstep.
[21:19] <EvilResistance> Barbarian:  ah.  use !factoid | target ;P
[21:19] <Myrtti> biggibbig: applications folder?
[21:19] <Myrtti> biggibbig: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[21:20] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  is there a question about why latest package versions arent in ubuntu or something?
[21:20] <biggibbig> 6.10
[21:20] <Myrtti> biggibbig: well that's a tad old...
[21:20] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  because Ubuntu is only based off of Debian testing / sid during development
[21:20] <biggibbig> My computer's a bit old.
[21:20] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  when they freeze for release preparation, its no longer going to be completely based off of Debian
[21:21] <biggibbig> I think it needs old software.
[21:21] <Myrtti> biggibbig: should be in accessories
[21:21] <Barbarian> biggibbig, doesn't matter that much, 10.04 should work just as well
[21:21] <Myrtti> biggibbig: perhaps you could try latest lubuntu
[21:21] <Barbarian> if not better
[21:21] <auronandace> EvilResistance: sorry, i don't know, i'm not a dev (i just know some factoids)
[21:21] <FerchoLP> xubuntu also works great
[21:21] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  i see.  who was asking for support then about this?
[21:22] <EvilResistance> auronandace:  because i know a decent bit
[21:22] <biggibbig> OH, SORRY, I'M NOT INTO POKEMON.
[21:22] <EvilResistance> also...
[21:22] <Barbarian> ???
[21:22] <biggibbig> TROLOLOLOOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[21:22] <EvilResistance> Barbarian:  auronandace:  to explore the bot's factoid information, /msg ubottu !factoid
[21:22] <geoffmcc> charnel: you still here?
[21:22] <biggibbig> WHERE'S THE NIGGERS?
[21:22] <auronandace> EvilResistance: FerchoLP i directed the factoid to him
[21:22] <EvilResistance> !ops
[21:22] <EvilResistance> ninja'd by Myrtti :p
[21:22] <Barbarian> Bang, and the dirt is gone :P
[21:23] <weqw> hey I want a program to run when a user logs out, and have it stop when a user logs in
[21:23] <weqw> any ideas?
[21:23] <auronandace> EvilResistance: i'm aware of /msg ubottu thanks (thats how i know quite a few of the factoids)
[21:26] <og01> hi there i'm having a bit of a problem, I have just updated to ubuntu 11.10 on my mediacenter come file storage, I have 5 drives, 1 for boot which is crypted, and 4 in raid 5 (1 spare). after updating after entering the crypt key it boots to the (initramfs) prompt.  It also shows one of my disks from the raid array as 'removed'
[21:27] <FerchoLP> as Ross said, "I don't understand what just happened here"
[21:27] <FerchoLP> haha
[21:28] <og01> Its worth noting that none of the main filesystem is on the raid array - it is purely there for media and other storage.
[21:29] <og01> because the boot drive is encrypted does anyone thing that the upgrade could have got confused - and put the grub install onto the wrong drive or something?
[21:29] <Faint> Would I come here for an Apache2 problem? Or would I visit somewhere else?
[21:29] <Faint> It's on Ubuntu Server, so my first guess was here
[21:29] <EvilResistance> Faint:  depends.  #ubuntu-server, or #httpd
[21:29] <xrandr> ok, im running Ubuntu 11.10 and have a Realtek ALC1200 onboard card. When i look at my sound settings, the hardware doesn't show up
[21:29] <auronandace> Faint: there is also #ubuntu-server but here is fine too
[21:30] <xrandr> yet sound is working
[21:30] <DEAD|VGA> anyone know how to deprioritize a process while a user is logged in?
[21:30] <Faint> I'll ask on #httpd, it's an Apache2 problem
[21:30] <og01> I dont even know where to start in the limited initramfs prompt - how can i see the grub config for example?
[21:30] <xrandr> well, banshee doesn't work
[21:30] <xrandr> but rhythmbox does :)
[21:31] <charnel> geoffmcc, yes I am here still looking for a solution
[21:31] <norbert_> hey all, I've set my X (in Ubuntu GNU/Linux) to 256 colors, in order to play a game in the Basilisk II emulator; now I want to make a screenshot of that Window, but the colors change depending on which windows is active and for some reason the active window is never the Basilisk II window... any ideas on how I could do what I want?
[21:34] <dkarampin> Hello, I installed the recommended nvidia driver as shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  After restart, the desktop looks frozen. I can move the pointer but cannot click and open any window. Any help ?
[21:36] <graingert> dkarampin: odd, what's your card?
[21:37] <og01> can anyone tell me is there a boot log so i can see why its not booting?!
[21:37] <og01> it says its decrypting ok
[21:37] <og01> then just dumps me into the initramfs
[21:39] <graingert> dkarampin: you can disable the nvidia drivers using jockey-text -d <name of driver you enabled>
[21:39] <graingert> eg
[21:40] <dkarampin> graingert: why disable it ? Is there any other workaround ?
[21:40] <graingert> http://paste.ubuntu.com/762103/
[21:41] <graingert> dkarampin: well presumably you want ubuntu to be useable with neuvoux
[21:41] <graingert> neuveau*
[21:42] <graingert> do you know the name of your card, dkarampin
[21:43] <Faint> Well, I tried getting help in #ubuntu-server, but no such luck I guess.
[21:43] <Faint> So I will ask here
[21:43] <graingert> Faint: IC
[21:43] <Faint> I am having a problem where when I start Apache, it stays up for a minute then turns off. I have the only two lines it gives me in apache's error.log right here: http://pastebin.com/vX201fQ6
[21:44] <Faint> This is my last resort, if I can't get this I don't know what I will do. I can't send to #httpd for some reason, #ubuntu-server isn't any help, I tried forurms and even askubuntu only to get unhelpful responses.
[21:45] <og01> this is ridiculas!
[21:45] <og01> no vi in initramfs?
[21:45] <og01> how can i fix anything?
[21:46] <ekinox> hi :)
[21:46] <graingert> Faint: how are you starting apache
[21:46] <graingert> looks like you kill it some point after you launch it
[21:46] <Faint> I type "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[21:46] <Faint> And it starts
[21:46] <Faint> And after a minute, it turns off with that error
[21:46] <DEAD|VGA> 'well sir
[21:46] <ekinox> Can I have an Highlight please ? :)
[21:46] <Faint> Well, it gave me that error in apache's error.log
[21:46] <jrib> ekinox: please do that elsewhere :)
[21:46] <DEAD|VGA> is anything else running on port 80 on your box?
[21:46] <graingert> Faint: try sudo service apache2 restart
[21:47] <Faint> No, just Apache
[21:47] <jrib> Faint: note you should use the service command not call those scripts directly
[21:47] <ekinox> thanks, jrib
[21:47] <jrib> !away > N3M_Away
[21:47] <graingert> $ sudo service apache restart
[21:47] <graingert> apache: unrecognized service
[21:47] <graingert> !away > graingert
[21:48] <Faint> Hm, when I restart it says "NameVirtualHost *:80 has no virtual hosts"
[21:48] <Faint> Does that mean anything?
[21:48] <auronandace> og01: vi? don't you mean vim? why not use nano?
[21:48] <og01> auronandace: no nano either!
[21:48] <nrdb> Hi, I have a problem... I have a .desktop with a URL set to http://...  when I click on this it used to open firefox at that page... but now it open gedit with the page source... how do I fix this?
[21:48] <DEAD|VGA> lol
[21:48] <auronandace> og01: oh
[21:49] <og01> This ubuntu upgrade has properly messed up my system
[21:49] <DEAD|VGA> upgrade to debian
[21:49] <og01> DEAD|VGA: probably should
[21:49] <og01> DEAD|VGA: i need to recover this system first though
[21:51] <HQRaja> Guys...I'm using a laptop with a numpad on the right that is supposed to serve as home/end/page-up/page-down too when numlock is off. Now on Windows, it worked fine but on Linux, it works when the shift key isn't pressed but when I need to do shift+home to select text, it registers the home key as the numpad key 7. Is there a way to fix this?
[21:52] <og01> Can anyone tell me how i can findout what the problem is with booting?
[21:52] <xrandr> og01: can you be more specific?
[21:52] <HQRaja> It behaves the same with the other keys on the numpad when shift is pressed...its as if shift is toggling it between numbers and home/end/pgup/pgdn keys
[21:52] <Faint> I think my website is fixed, it's been about a minute and 40 seconds and it's still up
[21:52] <batlock> Well you all will be happy to know that my distro upgrade to 11.10 fixed the jockey bug
[21:52] <og01> as no error is shown - I'm just thrown into the initramfs prompt
[21:52] <og01> xrandr: ^
[21:52] <batlock> AND i have composting
[21:52] <batlock> AND cairo-dock is STILL broken
[21:52] <og01> xrandr: I just updated my system to 11.10 and now it wont boot
[21:53] <xrandr> fun
[21:53] <Faint> Thank you all
[21:53] <xrandr> og01: have you backed up all your personal files?
[21:53] <HQRaja> batlock: Told you, updating to 11.10 will fix a lot of stuff. Though regarding cairo-dock, why don't you give Docky a try?
[21:53] <og01> xrandr: I get past the crypt key page
[21:53] <og01> xrandr: the raid array contains most my useufll stuff and should be recoverable - but no essentaily I want to get to my data
[21:54] <batlock> so has anyone ever had this problem?     I run cairo-dock -o and it appears in the upper left corner of the screen, even though the config has it set to show up on the bottom edge, I hover over the bottom edge and it appears, up in the top left
[21:54] <og01> it should be fairly recoverable
[21:54] <xrandr> og01: how did you upgrade? And have you tried a clean install?
[21:54] <og01> xrandr: I upgraded via the update manager
[21:54] <xrandr> ok
[21:54] <dkarampin> has graingert left ? :S
[21:54] <xrandr> og01: well, you could always do a clean install.
[21:54] <batlock> this is after purging the install, reinstalling, uninstalling, force installing, uninstalling, compiling, uninstalling, etc
[21:54] <og01> xrandr: I want to try to recover data before doint a clean install
[21:55] <batlock> i've deleted files, i've removed all cairo-dock data
[21:55] <batlock> but it still starts with this one error
[21:55] <og01> There is source code - configuration files and tv recordings on the drive
[21:55] <xrandr> og01: well, in your raid, did you create a separate partition for /home ?
[21:55] <jragon> Hi
[21:55] <og01> xrandr: the raid array isnt part of the main filesystem
[21:55] <jragon> Is there a way to block certain applications to the web? Such as spotify?
[21:55] <xrandr> o ok
[21:55] <batlock> anyone a cairo-dock guru?
[21:56] <og01> xrandr: 1 have 1 drive for boot/root and 4 drives that are mounted seperatly and non-critical for boot
[21:56] <xrandr> batlock: what's your question. I used cairo-dock
[21:56] <batlock> so has anyone ever had this problem?     I run cairo-dock -o and it appears in the upper left corner of the screen, even though the config has it set to show up on the bottom edge, I hover over the bottom edge and it appears, up in the top left
[21:56] <mactrent> jragon, Yes, there is.  I'd recommend Gufw to do it for you.
[21:56] <og01> xrandr: the boot drive is crypted
[21:56] <xrandr> og01: oy! Im not sure i can help you there
[21:56] <batlock> no matter how i set the config for it,   cairo-dock still shows up in the upper left corner of the screen
[21:57] <og01> xrandr: it claims to successfully decrypt the drive after a successfull key enty
[21:57] <dkarampin> graingert: 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] [10de:01df] (rev a1)
[21:58] <xrandr> hmmm. i've never used the encrypted drive settings. So im not sure how much help I can be to you
[21:58] <og01> fair enough
[21:58] <og01> i've just found the decrypted partition in /dev/dm-1
[21:58] <dkarampin> graingert: shall I activate the nvidia_173 ?
[21:58] <og01> and i can see the root filesystem
[21:59] <mactrent> jragon, On closer inspection, Gufw doesn't have a preconfigured rule for Spotify, as for Transmission, etc.
[21:59] <jragon> Hmm
[21:59] <jragon> Would there be a way to 'create' a rule for spotify?
[22:00] <og01> has anybody here got any experience with grub/ubuntu/dmcrypt?
[22:01] <graingert> dkarampin: no hang on
[22:01] <mactrent> jragon, I'm not sure.   I have a .desktop of "Type=Link" with a "URL=http://..."  when I click on this it used to open firefox at that page... but now it open gedit with the page source... how do I fix this?
[22:03] <Myrtti> batlock: good to hear you're liking it
[22:03] <batlock> now if i can only get cairo-dock sorted out
[22:05] <dkarampin> graingert: any idea ?
[22:06] <batlock> i got a screencap of the issue i'm having with cairo-dock
[22:06] <batlock> http://imgur.com/ceUyl
[22:06] <mactrent> jragon, Not surprisingly, Gufw is a front-end for UFW - looking at manual pages now.
[22:06] <xrandr> how do i set the photo for my user account??
[22:08] <deej1976> xrandr: Settings -> User Accounts
[22:08] <xrandr> deej1976: yeah, went there. no option to do it
[22:08] <benbloom_> is 10G enough space for a / partition (running kubuntu on laptop)
[22:09] <deej1976> xrandr: Unlock then click the Icon next to your name on the Right panel
[22:09] <xrandr> deej1976: did that too. It's currently unlocked
[22:09] <auronandace> benbloom: should be yes
[22:09] <deej1976> xrandr: If you hoover over it, you'll see the little drop down arrow appear
[22:09] <xrandr> deej1976: ah, found the issue
[22:10] <benbloom_> k thanks auronandace
[22:10] <xrandr> deej1976: thanks :L)
[22:10] <deej1976> xrandr: Sorted?
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> xrandr  share it with us, for future reference
[22:11] <xrandr> deej1976: yeah, had to hover over the picture container as u said. I just figured it out before you pressed enter to send your reply :)
[22:11] <deej1976> xrandr: Cool
[22:12] <og01> xrandr: heh strangly just typing 'exit' and I boot
[22:13] <xrandr> og01: nice :P
[22:13] <og01> xrandr: yes - something is wrong though
[22:13] <b0ot> I have webcam-server installed but I'm not able to view my camera over the network. I can view it from localhost:8888 but not from the website any ideas what is wrong?
[22:14] <xrandr> b0ot: firewall exception?
[22:14] <nrdb> Hi, I have a problem... I have a .desktop of "Type=Link" with a "URL=http://..."  when I click on this it used to open firefox at that page... but now it open gedit with the page source... how do I fix this?
[22:14] <og01> xrandr: this system has been updated through many versions i think this is the 4th type i've 'upgraded'
[22:14] <geoffmcc> b0ot: if not firewall possibly port forwarding on the router needs setup
[22:15] <auronandace> og01: i usually fresh install each release (a lot less can go wrong)
[22:15] <b0ot> geoffmcc, the weird thing is I can't even view it on the computer hosting the server
[22:16] <deej1976> b0ot: Can you run nmap against your webcam-server and see if the port is open,closed or filtered
[22:16] <og01> auronandace: for my desktop thats fine - for this mediacenter its a whole lot more work
[22:16] <geoffmcc> b0ot: ok, then it not forwarding then
[22:17] <sskalnik> was the uptrack portion of ksplice ever open-sourced at some point in the past?
[22:17] <b0ot> I get missing plug-in when I switch to chrome
[22:18] <sskalnik> I googled around but did not find anything
[22:20] <geoffmcc> b0ot: try to access it threw mplayer maybe or even vlc if you use
[22:20] <bastidrazor> batlock: what is the issue? its location?
[22:20] <geoffmcc> b0ot: or go looking for a compatable plugin to access it threw browser
[22:21] <auronandace> through
[22:21] <geoffmcc> yea i know, when type fast i make stupid errors
[22:23] <batlock> bastidrazor, yes
[22:23] <batlock> bastidrazor, it's set to be on the bottom edge
[22:23] <batlock> no matter what i pick it's always in the wrong place
[22:24] <batlock> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling using --purge, i've tried installing from the cairo dock repo, i've tried compiling from scratch,     all of these attempts have included deleting ~/.config/cairo-dock
[22:28] <benbloom> when partitioning for a new install is it better to put the swap first in the partition table or the / first. also, does it cause any performance lag to have both swap and / on the same logical partition?
[22:28] <udonthavetoknow> w
[22:28] <auronandace> benbloom: you mean use a swapfile instead of a swap partition?
[22:29] <benbloom> no auronandace I mean to make a logical partition containing both swap and / within
[22:29] <auronandace> benbloom: you can't really do that, swap is a different filesystem
[22:31] <bastidrazor> batlock: alt + left click and drag it
[22:31] <bastidrazor> batlock: there is also a #cairo-dock channel that will be able to give all the answers
[22:32] <benbloom> sorry. i meant extended not logica
[22:32] <batlock> yea i'm in there
[22:32] <batlock> alt+left click does nothing
[22:32] <HQRaja> A different logical partition in the same extended partition, you meant?
[22:32] <auronandace> benbloom: oh, yeah you can have an extended partition with a logical swap and /
[22:32] <benbloom> yes HQRaja
[22:32] <benbloom> but does it effect performance?
[22:33] <auronandace> benbloom: not that i'm aware of
[22:33] <benbloom> also, does physical location of partitions on the disk effect performance?
[22:33] <auronandace> benbloom: no
[22:34] <benbloom> k. thx
[22:34] <auronandace> benbloom: no worries :)
[22:36] <kiko__> hola
[22:37] <kiko__> #melilla
[22:38] <kiko__> algun español
[22:38] <auronandace> !es | kiko__
[22:39] <ramrebol_> my google-talkplugin stopped working. I do not see the camera symbol (only the green circle next to my name). Somebody can help me?  (it is installed)
[22:39] <kiko__> hola
[22:39] <ramrebol_> hola kiko__ . No soy espanol, pero te puede servir el canal #ubuntu-es
[22:40] <szal> *pueden
[22:41] <pala> hello
[22:41] <wad> In Ubuntu 11.10, the "home folder" app lets me navigate my filesystem. It shows me icons of files. But sometimes the icon isn't enough, I need the list view of that directory, so that I can, say, find the file I want to by date. Is there a way to show a list view?
[22:42] <pala> q
[22:42] <deej1976> wad: try crtl
[22:42] <deej1976> wad: try crtl+2
[22:42]  * wad tries
[22:43] <wad> ctrl+2 works! Thanks!
[22:44] <deej1976> wad: ctrl+1 for normal icons, crtl+3 for small list
[22:44] <firewalker22> hello good folks......wannna be linux power user needs help with setting up network file sharing on ubuntu 11.10 PST if u can helps me
[22:44] <firewalker22> I r having diffultziez
[22:44] <wad> deej1976, yeah, I tried all of those. Very nice. Seems like there would have been some sort of GUI control to also do this.
[22:45] <wad> firewalker22, install samba
[22:45] <ferg> can I get plugins to display video/audio in web-browsers (firefox, rekonq, opera) to work in kubuntu? I have noticed no standard plugins are enabled. the vlc-plugin just is not very convenient...
[22:45] <wad> works great.
[22:45] <firewalker22> my problem is when I  clicks on the sharing option tab that the guest access section is grayed out/
[22:46] <deej1976> wad: used to be a small drop down option on the toolbar, not there now.
[22:47] <firewalker22> I tried to install samba, and while the shares could be seen, it ask for a username and password instead of allowing simple guest access
[22:47] <wad> firewalker22, you need to edit the config file, and turn that off.
[22:49] <firewalker22> I Configured samba with                           guest account = nobody
[22:49] <firewalker22> security = share
[22:50] <MrCleanWithHair> firewalker22, have you tried a samba related channel?
[22:51] <pala> hello
[22:51] <qmanjr5> Does Banshee support adding apps to an iPod?
[22:51] <firewalker22> no, I havent, but I thought that this might be more of a ubuntu issue, it seems 11.10 has a new framework for filesharing, because even with samba uninstalled I can share a folder and make it visible on the network
[22:52] <MrCleanWithHair> try #samba
[22:52] <wad> firewalker22, I'd head over to #samba and ask them. Samba is what you want. :)
[22:52] <firewalker22> but the guest access part is where I am having problems
[22:52] <firewalker22> k, I will give it a try
[22:53] <tabunet> Good evening!
[22:55] <ferg> can someone help me with pointers to enabling video/audio plugins in kubuntu for a virtual drink?
[22:55] <tabunet> Sorry for my little english, I'm from Spain!
[22:56] <tabunet> Yesterday I bought Samsung Galaxy Nexus. the problem is that i need activate MTP protocol on Ubuntu 11.10
[22:56] <qmanjr5> Does Banshee support adding apps to an iPod?
[22:57] <tabunet> Beacause the problem with android devices without SDCard manage MTP
[22:57] <berlinerguy> how do I edit the package manager configuration so that non-admin users can install applications/etc?
[22:57] <tabunet> In Synaptic i have got this pakages installed http://i.imgur.com/AnZcy.png
[22:58] <tabunet> I need to connect my Samsung Galaxy Nexus via MTP like another USB Massive Storage
[22:59] <pala> hello
[23:00] <firewalker22> hello, I am trying to setup a very simple network share on ubuntu, 11.10, using samba, but it is being very difficult. While I can see my network shares, it prompts me for username and password instead of allowing simple guest access.....any advice would be much appreciated
[23:00] <pala> look for install script for icinga 1.5.1
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> !info icinga
[23:00] <roothorick> is it possible to go from natty straight to precise?
[23:01] <deej1976> !samba | firewalker22
[23:03] <kobro> hi
[23:04] <shaullx> i'm having problems with apache/php5, i couldn't access any php files even though it's all installed, so i uninstalled everything
[23:04] <shaullx> but it seems apache is still running
[23:04] <shaullx> and i can still access html files
[23:04] <shaullx> wasn't apt-get remove apache2 enough? x.x
[23:04] <kobro> can someone help me i lost toons of importat data -.-
[23:04] <agentgasmask> Hi all. How can I tell what version of grub is installed (i.e. grub or grub2)?
[23:04] <deej1976> shaullx: sudo service apache2 stop
[23:05] <graingert> kobro: what did you do?
[23:05] <shaullx> i still can't access php files though
[23:05] <shaullx> when i navigate to a php file
[23:06] <shaullx> it downloads it
[23:06] <shaullx> o.o
[23:06] <kobro> see i copy the data to my 1 tb usb 3.0 hard drive and forgot to hang the devic out (Laufwerk sicher aushängen in deutsch) and now all my copyt data are away
[23:06] <qmanjr5> Does Banshee support adding apps to an iPod?
[23:06] <grkblood> how do I get ubuntu to recognize my hp probook webcam?
[23:08] <graingert> kobro: I see, well re do the copy
[23:10] <grkblood> i have cheese opened and virtually everything is blacked out
[23:10] <kobro> the source of the copy is also away
[23:10] <kobro> i realy dont know why
[23:10] <why> Yes?
[23:11] <graingert> kobro: I see, you'll probably have to pay a data recovery firm
[23:11] <graingert> kobro: http://www.krollontrack.com/data-recovery/germany/
[23:11] <Behi> hi all
[23:11] <ferg> what is the best multimedia browser plugin for kubuntu?
[23:11] <Behi> I am trying to connect to SQL Server from ubuntu
[23:12] <graingert> kobro: please tag me if you are replying to me
[23:12] <Behi> I have installed freetds, odbc, etc. but when I try to connect to the server, I get this error message: Bu*: command not found
[23:12] <Behi> any ideas what's wrong?
[23:13] <graingert> Behi: Bu* is not mysql
[23:13] <kobro> graingert: i think i dont have the money to give my hard drine to a service
[23:14] <Behi> graingert I want to connect to SQL Server
[23:14] <graingert> oooh SQL
[23:14] <graingert> hmm,
[23:14] <graingert> Bu* is not the correct command to run
[23:14] <erebel55> hi, I"m having trouble installing ubuntu over a copy of windows 7 on my laptop. I downloaded the .iso and burt to disk, but my laptop is sitting at the ubuntu loading screen for a very long time, the circles are filling orange and then going white..so it appears that it isn't frozen
[23:14] <grkblood> how do i get my integrated laptop webcam to work with ubuntu? all options in cheese are inactive which im presuming means its not registering a webcam
[23:14] <kobro> graingert: thats a lot of pics of me and my friends
[23:14] <graingert> erebel55: press up on the  directional pad
[23:15] <deep> hi
[23:15] <graingert> kobro: there are tools to discover images
[23:15] <deep> i m not really getting is this exactly!
[23:15] <kobro> graingert: i used photo rec
[23:16] <erebel55> graingert: ok, I did so...now I only see a black screen
[23:16] <graingert> kobro: ah did it not work
[23:16] <graingert> kobro: in that case, professionals are probably your best bet
[23:16] <graingert> erebel55: odd, when you checked the disk for errors, were there any?
[23:16] <Behi> graingert I am not even running Bu*
[23:16] <graingert> erebel55: otherwise try the alterantive installer
[23:17] <graingert> Behi: what do you run
[23:17] <kobro> graingert: no it doesnt work for my sd card and it takes houres to run this tool on 1 tb but i am trying atm
[23:17] <erebel55> graingert: I didn't check the disk for errors...and what is the alternative installer?
[23:17] <Behi> graingert tsql -S MyServerIP -p port -U user -P pass
[23:17] <graingert> erebel55: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[23:18] <erebel55> graingert: thank you
[23:18] <graingert> Behi: sounds like a bug in tsql
[23:20] <graingert> kobro: make sure you're not writing to the drive
[23:20] <graingert> kobro: I'd recommend calling the pro's
[23:20] <erebel55> I'm really just trying to install a clean version of windows 7...but when I tried the windows install it also stopped at the beginning, so I was just trying to install ubuntu, and then overwrite ubuntu with windows 7
[23:20] <kobro> graingert: i would call them but i have no money
[23:21] <abtexas130> Hi all
[23:21] <conntrack> little bugger
[23:21] <graingert> kobro: ask for a quote, your friends might want to chip in
[23:21] <RDMonkey> sorry to interrupt but i would like to install Ubuntu along side my Windows 7 Lenovo laptop, but im not sure how
[23:21] <ArveT> erebel55: tried wubi?
[23:21] <graingert> !language | conntrack
[23:21] <kobro> graingert: a part of the data was on a sd card but the card was used again
[23:22] <graingert> ouch
[23:22] <graingert> kobro: if that happened it's probably gone, you can recover from an HDD, SSD is almost impossible
[23:22] <ArveT> RDMonkey try wubi
[23:22] <erebel55> ArveT: well the reason I want to do a clean install of windows 7, is that my current one will not boot, it is very virused
[23:23] <RDMonkey> Excuse me?
[23:23] <graingert> RDMonkey: have you got the CD burnt?
[23:23] <ArveT> I did the same thing have a lenovo and the work great together
[23:23] <RDMonkey> I'm using a USB
[23:23] <graingert> RDMonkey: have you got the LIVE usb running?
[23:23] <klemax> Hello.
[23:23] <klemax> How to find out which device has my USB modem? I mean like /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/usb/SH1 etc..
[23:23] <RDMonkey> yes
[23:23] <ArveT> RDMonkey do u have windows already running?
[23:23] <RDMonkey> im using Ubuntu now
[23:23] <grkblood> how do i get my integrated laptop webcam to work with ubuntu? all options in cheese are inactive which im presuming means its not registering a webcam
[23:23] <graingert> RDMonkey: double click the install icon
[23:23] <graingert> and you should get a "side by side" option
[23:23] <graingert> in the installer
[23:24] <RDMonkey> i don't
[23:24] <erebel55> any ideas on my prob?
[23:24] <graingert> make sure to backup your windows, RDMonkey
[23:24] <graingert> RDMonkey: well it will take a few steps
[23:24] <ArveT> erebel55 sorry misunderstood, my situation was that I have win7 running and installed ubuntu through wubi
[23:24] <RDMonkey> no i mean
[23:24] <RDMonkey> I tried installing already, and i got an error when it was resizing the partition,
[23:24] <graingert> RDMonkey: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1312973605.png
[23:24] <graingert> RDMonkey: oh I see, what was the error?
[23:25] <RDMonkey> and i went back and it revoked the option to install side by side
[23:25] <graingert> RDMonkey: try resizing the partition in Windows
[23:25] <[IFOC]75> actually, RD... wasn't it the other way around?
[23:25] <RDMonkey> I'm not sure how
[23:25] <[IFOC]75> you had an error in alongside
[23:25] <RDMonkey> Yes
[23:25] <graingert> RDMonkey: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/
[23:25] <RDMonkey> I use windows 7 but k :P
[23:25] <graingert> RDMonkey: then you can install to the free space
[23:26] <graingert> "Resize a Partition for Free in Windows 7 or Vista"
[23:26] <graingert> "install to largest free space"
[23:26] <graingert> I think
[23:27] <MSK> how to contribute an application to ubuntu?
[23:28] <mediat0r> hi. I have a SysV init script. Is the approriate place for that script /etc/init.d/?
[23:30] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: yep.
[23:30] <illio> The internal webcam in my laptop is apparently unavailable as a resource on startup.. is there some way to check which software is blocking it and release their lock on the resource?
[23:30] <mediat0r> thanks frogonwheels
[23:31] <escott> illio, do you have a way to make the webcam work?
[23:31] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: you'll then need to get it activated for a run-level. I forget how that's done in ubuntu
[23:31] <matin> hello
[23:31] <matin> hi Flannel
[23:31] <illio> escott, normally it would work fine in any normal tool like cheese. However it suddenly stopped working today, so I'm guessing it's something I've installed.
[23:32] <illio> escott, I found out it was busy using guvcview
[23:32] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: update-rc.d  looks promising - probably parses something in the init script
[23:33] <escott> illio, so when you run guvcview it tells you "device or resource busy"?
[23:33] <escott> illio, you can run lsof on the device file
[23:33] <illio> escott, it tells me Resource temporarily unavailable
[23:33] <mediat0r> frogonwheels: yeah that's exactly the command I thought. update-rc.d <script name> defaults or something like that
[23:33] <illio> escott, yeah - no output from lsof
[23:34] <frogonwheels> mediat0r: better off putting it in the script itself..  man insserv   looks like the place for the format
[23:34] <mediat0r> frogonwheels: thanks.
[23:35] <escott> illio, its unlikely something has the device open, but it might have been put in a weird power state that it cant get out of. have you done a cold reboot?
[23:35] <Guest91278> teste
[23:36] <illio> escott, as in shut down and start again? Then no, just a normal reboot.. Maybe I should try that
[23:36] <escott> illio, i would give it a try
[23:36] <illio> escott, okay I'll try.. thanks
[23:36] <ApogeU> teste
[23:37] <thornhillstaff> how do I block facebook on any given computer?
[23:37] <stepnjump> what is a good iso packer on ubuntu?
[23:38] <Steak> hey, I'm trying to install memtest86 to a USB key, and in the instructions, it says "use the base device the device is assigned to"
[23:38] <Steak> I put a USB stick in, that says "OCZ Diesel", which is obviously not the base device, how can I determine the base?
[23:38] <escott> thornhillstaff, what is your goal in blocking? you dont like facebook and dont want your traffic to go to them, or you are trying to stop someone else?
[23:39] <thornhillstaff> escott: I want to prevent anyone using this computer from going to facebook.
[23:40] <rhelmer> thornhillstaff: could make an entry in /etc/hosts for facebook.com pointing to the local IP (or whatever IP you want)
[23:40] <escott> thornhillstaff, thats substantially harder. you would have to use some kind of ip filtering, but facebook has a *lot* of ips. the /etc/hosts wont prevent someone from typing the ip address into the url bar
[23:40] <rhelmer> true
[23:41] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: that kind of thing can be done with a transparent web proxy
[23:41] <thornhillstaff> iptables?
[23:41] <matin> hey
[23:41] <toddnine> Any ideas why google chrome doesn't appear in the list of browsers to make my default browser?
[23:41] <matin> can someone help me with an ftp problem?
[23:41] <toddnine> matin: I can try, what's up/
[23:41] <escott> thornhillstaff, you could do it with iptables. the more important thing is how much effort you want to put into this vs how much effort you expect your adversary to put into circumventing
[23:42] <matin> toddnine, i had my FTP server working
[23:42] <matin> for the past few days
[23:42] <matin> but last night, i set up svn
[23:42] <digikwondo> wondo> hello. been using ubuntu for some time now and i love it! although today i encounted a strange issue. i dont get any sound from my built in line out (its a "studio" laptop)  i booted from a ubuntu live cd and then i get sound. im clueless ;)
[23:42] <matin> so I'm not sure if that affected it, however now whenever i try to upload something, i get an error in FileZilla, 553
[23:43] <escott> thornhillstaff, the way big companies do this is to force all http, https traffic through a proxy, and then subscribe to a service that provides filter lists
[23:43] <thornhillstaff> escott: will this script worK? how do I implement it? http://kdn2.info/2010/11/block-facebook-com-with-iptables/
[23:43] <toddnine> matin: http://kb.globalscape.com/KnowledgebaseArticle10142.aspx
[23:44] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: Assuming the ip ranges are correct, you just need to get that run from your firewall software
[23:44] <toddnine> thornhillstaff: You might, but I doubt it'll get you much.  FB used geo-dns, and they're constantly adding/removing load balancer IP's.  You'd be in a game of cat and mouse
[23:44] <escott> thornhillstaff, *if* that is a complete list of facebook ip addresses then i think that would work
[23:44] <toddnine> as escott says, you really need a proxy that checks the target domain name
[23:45] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: oh - this is would be done on the FIREWALL only.
[23:45] <matin> alright thanks toddnine
[23:45] <toddnine> no worries mate
[23:45] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff:  http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[23:45] <frogonwheels> thornhillstaff: the fun that can be had with squid  :)
[23:47] <escott> digikwondo, probably an issue with pin output on intel hda sound. lsmod | grep hda if that outputs snd_hda_intel then you have intel hda sound
[23:50] <roy57>  /whois roy57
[23:51] <matin> hey toddnine
[23:51] <matin> I'm having more trouble :P
[23:51] <escott> digikwondo, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[23:51] <toddnine> sure, what's up?
[23:51] <matin> toddnine, ok so i uploaded once, and now i can't even delete anything
[23:51] <matin> i think it's a permissions problem
[23:51] <toddnine> martin:  Sounds like a permissions problem
[23:51] <matin> but I'm new to linux and i have no idea what I'm doing :P
[23:52] <escott> digikwondo, these things sometimes get cleared up over a period of time, but you can help it along by figuring out what the correct pin output for your device is and forwarding it to a developer
[23:52] <toddnine> yeah, do you absolutely have to use ftp, or can you use something like ssh/scp/sftp?
[23:52] <worstadmin> Can I have two hosts mount the same iscsi lun?
[23:52] <worstadmin> And simultaneously use it as well? They dont seem to sync changes between each other
[23:52] <toddnine> For my 2 cents, using sftp (which is ssh based) is much more secure, more robust, and a hell of a lot easier to use than ftp
[23:53] <Mars11_> Okay, I have this flash drive that shows up as two separate drives when inserted. It's not one of Sandisk's U3 drives.
[23:53] <Mars11_> I was wondering if anyone knew how to combine the two?
[23:53] <escott> worstadmin, as long as they arent hitting the same part of the disk it should be ok, but you have to be careful that your virtual hosts arent trying to access the same partition directly
[23:53] <skegeek> Can I get some advice for optimizing my system for performance as a VirtualBox Guest? I've given the system 512MB RAM, 64MB Video/Graphics memory. It is the latest version of Ubuntu with Gnome.
[23:54] <digikwondo> escott: omg i cant belive it was so simple! , some time during today i managed to hit "m" in alsamixer. everything was just muted! i cant belive i switched my harddrive for this!
[23:54] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[23:54] <worstadmin> escott, So if I want more than one host to access the same logical volume - do I make a different lun pointing at the the same lv for them?
[23:54] <Ahmuck> !libdvdcss
[23:54] <escott> digikwondo, well thats good
[23:54] <matin> toddnine, it's a home server
[23:54] <matin> and i have no idea how to set up … anything :D
[23:55] <matin> so i guess i'll just stick with ftp
[23:55] <toddnine> matin: In that case I'd learn how to set up ssh
[23:55] <matin> i have ssh set up
[23:55] <toddnine> It's more secure, and that's what you'll want to use to transfer data anyway
[23:55] <toddnine> ok, then in that case you can use sftp
[23:55] <digikwondo> escott: thanks for the help! guys like you is the reason i switched from ms 3 years ago  :)
[23:55] <matin> ah cool beans
[23:55] <matin> toddnine, how do i do that
[23:55] <toddnine> just get a client that supports sftp, and use the sftp protocol on port 22
[23:55] <toddnine> use the same username and password for ssh, and you'll be done
[23:55] <escott> worstadmin, thats a bit beyond me, but as long as its different partitions they arent sending conflicting writes that could mess up the filesystem
[23:56] <matin> oh sweet
[23:56] <Mars11_> Oh, and one of the drives is read-only.
[23:56] <worstadmin> Hm, So I guess iscsi isn't really made for file sharing so to speak and instead just issuing out disk space
[23:56] <worstadmin> That makes sense
[23:56] <matin> ok
[23:56] <matin> it says permission denied
[23:57] <escott> worstadmin, im sorry i thought you were talking about virtualizing access to a raw disk on a vm. i dont know anything about isci
[23:58] <worstadmin> oh :(
[23:58] <escott> worstadmin, http://www.snsforums.com/index.php?showtopic=397


[05:48] <RAOF> Son_Goku: there's a patch in capnproto master to fix the build.
[07:10] <duflu> Excellent. Changing to display mode 640x480 still gives the EGL draw buffer dimensions 1920x1200
[07:10] <duflu> Not my fault [tm]
[07:24] <zorrolechat> hi
[07:24] <zorrolechat> Is Mir included in 17.04 ? or it's Wayland by default now ???
[07:24] <zorrolechat> not following everything in the Ubuntu world
[07:25] <zorrolechat> Unity has been dropped right ? Which is a good thing...it is FUGLY as in Fucking Ulgly
[07:25] <zorrolechat> Many people moved to other distros since that Unity thing started
[07:25] <zorrolechat> Good to see Ubuntu is back on track
[07:26] <zorrolechat> I just wanna install a good distro for the latest Kaby Lake intel processor...Gonna used the internal HD GRAPHICS
[07:26] <zorrolechat> which distro should I install
[07:27] <zorrolechat> and should I try Mir / Wayland or stay with X
[07:27] <zorrolechat> We're completely lost these days with all those news
[07:30] <duflu> zorrolechat: Ubuntu 17.04 was completed before the news broke, so is still Unity7 by default with the Unity8 option available
[07:30] <duflu> The real changes will occur starting 17.10
[07:31] <zorrolechat> oh thanks
[07:32] <zorrolechat> so 17.10 will come with Wayland or Mir ?
[07:32] <zorrolechat> I just want to install something on a Kaby Lake processor (so probably kernel 4.10+)...that will support Mir / Wayland
[07:32] <zorrolechat> without needing to reinstall everything in a few months
[07:33] <duflu> zorrolechat: If you want to minimize reinstalls, it's a good idea to stick to long term releases (16.04, 18.04...)
[07:34] <zorrolechat> right....typing from a 16.04 mate install
[07:34] <zorrolechat> I see
[07:34] <duflu> RAOF: Did you know that changing modes to lower resolution keeps the old larger bounding rect? So the display buffer remains larger than the display
[07:34] <duflu> Such is mesa-kms
[07:37] <duflu> Oh, maybe it's just this branch
[11:22] <zzarr> I know that Unity 8 + convergence + phone is discontinued, but what happens to Mir?
[11:22] <ogra_> zzarr, the mir-kiosk snap will persist
[11:23] <ogra_> (no idea if any other aspects of mir will see any canonical side development ... but perhaps the community will pick up)
[11:24] <zzarr> ogra_, thanks
[11:25] <zzarr> I still have hope for convergence and phone/tablet, I just think that the time was not right
[11:33] <ogra_> the time was erfectly right ... see the galaxy S8 ... the adoption of manufacturers wasnt
[11:33] <ogra_> *perfectly
[11:44] <Son_Goku> you were too early :)
[11:44] <Son_Goku> fortune favors the bold, but it punishes the early
[11:48] <ogra_> well, we were showing it to them giving them ideas :)
[12:33] <zzarr> I saw the first computer with touchscreen that could be used as tablet about 5-10 years before they became common
[13:32] <zorrolechat> i think we need to sell our smartphones and buy dumb cell phones
[13:32] <zorrolechat> computers were made with keyboards
[13:32] <zorrolechat> to do text processing
[13:32] <zorrolechat> coding
[13:32] <zorrolechat> video editing
[13:32] <zorrolechat> smart phones are toys
[13:32] <zorrolechat> for teens
[13:32] <zorrolechat> ...
[13:33] <zorrolechat> I hate Android and iOS
[13:33] <zorrolechat> they're both fugly IMHO
[13:33] <zorrolechat> Blackberry was smarter and more secure
[13:35] <zorrolechat> As long as a phone can call, send texts, occasionally browse the webs or have a mail client it should be enough