[00:01] <packetfrog> Nothing?
[00:01] <bekks> packetfrog: just search for the lowlatency kernel package: apt-cache search latency
[00:02] <ldiamond> "System program problem detected" "Do you want to report the problem now?"
[00:02] <ldiamond> How do I know what the hell the problem is?
[00:02] <packetfrog> bekks: Thank you. :)
[00:02] <ldiamond> I'm not giving my PW to this unknown thing
[00:02] <COLORS> Hello
[00:02] <packetfrog> Hi.
[00:02] <nu2ub_> ntzrmtthihu777 how do i log in as a root
[00:03] <COLORS> ldiamond you should submit a bug report
[00:03] <bekks> !root | nu2ub_
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> why would you want to ? I can tell you how, but for what reason?
[00:03] <ldiamond> COLORS, it's not like an obvious system popup.
[00:03] <mneptok> ldiamond: whatever crashed was running as a system process, and its logfiles are readable only by root. thus the need for your password.
[00:03] <ldiamond> COLORS, how can I tell it's legit and not some way to gain root access for some rootkit
[00:03] <COLORS> hmm
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> ldiamond: its legit, lol.
[00:03] <ldiamond> mneptok, I agree with that, but still any application can show this popup
[00:04] <COLORS> It's very unlikly it is a rootkit xD
[00:04] <ldiamond> ntzrmtthihu777, how can you tell?
[00:04] <ldiamond> "unlikely" != "impossible"
[00:04] <mneptok> ldiamond: you don't *have* to send a report. so don't.
[00:04] <ldiamond> mneptok, sure, but I still want to know what crashed
[00:04] <ldiamond> I'll manually file a bug if it's important
[00:04] <mneptok> ldiamond: tail /var/log/syslog
[00:04] <mneptok> ldiamond: etc etc
[00:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> true, and anyone on the street can rob you; question is are you gonna live in fear or just be carefull and use common sense
[00:05] <COLORS> :P
[00:06] <ldiamond> ntzrmtthihu777, different situation. If someone on the street asks for my wallet, I'll definitely say no
[00:06] <Wolfgang__> Im running lububuntu in vbox but i want to resize the virtual hd
[00:06] <Wolfgang__> how do i do so?
[00:06] <notStewpid> Hotspot on ubuntu anyone?
[00:06] <bekks> Wolfgang__: Resize the vdi file by using VBoxManage.
[00:06] <Wolfgang__> ok
[00:06] <COLORS> Wolfgang_ Do you have auto-allocation turned on?
[00:06] <KRomeleoN> is libreoffice 4.0 still not available in sw center ??
[00:07] <nonan> is lububuntu a thing for real?
[00:07] <Wolfgang__> Yes
[00:07] <KRomeleoN> lube-buntu lol
[00:07] <COLORS> Yes
[00:07] <k1l> !lubuntu | nonan
[00:07] <Wolfgang__> Where is vboxmanage?
[00:07] <COLORS> Lubuntu is Light-buntu :3
[00:07] <bekks> nonan: No. :) It is called lubuntu. :)
[00:07] <COLORS> Thank you ubottu :D
[00:07] <k1l> KRomeleoN: you will need a ppa for that
[00:08] <Wolfgang__> Where is the manage thing?
[00:08] <nonan> bekks: thanks
[00:08] <bekks> Wolfgang__: In the directory you installed vbox to.
[00:08] <Wolfgang__> ok
[00:08] <cellofellow> How do I manually change the bash prompt? It's currently very long (on a deep dir with long names) and running PS1="short" doesn't do anything, echo $PS1 is still what it was before.
[00:08] <bekks> Wolfgang__: And it is called VBoxManage
[00:09] <nonan> try export PS1="blah" ?
[00:09] <COLORS> 1743 people online ._.
[00:09] <COLORS> ohmygoshz xD
[00:10] <Wolfgang__> bekks : is it in the program files?
[00:10] <mneptok> COLORS: please don't state thew obvious. this is a support channel. :)
[00:10] <COLORS> Sorry :P
[00:10] <bekks> Wolfgang__: I dont know where you installed vbox to.
[00:11] <Wolfgang__> Program files
[00:11] <Wolfgang__> is it in the folder in there?
[00:11] <bekks> Wolfgang__: Just look in that folder then...
[00:11] <COLORS> Wolfgang:__ Program Files or Program Files (x86)
[00:12] <Wolfgang__> COLORS: im in there but i dont see vmanage
[00:12] <mneptok> Wolfgang__: are you running VBox on Windows? if so, your issue is not really relevant to an Ubuntu support channel.
[00:12] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: Go into the Oracle VM Virtualbox folder
[00:12] <bekks> Wolfgang__: It is called: VBoxManage - not vmanage or something else.
[00:13] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: It will be INSIDE Virtualbox folder, wherever you installed it.
[00:13] <Wolfgang__> I see it
[00:13] <notStewpid> Ubuntu wifi hotspot!!??
[00:13] <Wolfgang__> how do i open it?
[00:13] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: You click on it
[00:14] <Wolfgang__> if i click it it opens then closes
[00:14] <bekks> Wolfgang__: Open a command prompt window, navigate to that folder, then run it providing the options to resize your vdi.
[00:14] <bekks> Wolfgang__: You should have a look at the official vbox manual on their site.
[00:14] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: What operating system are you on?
[00:15] <Wolfgang__> Win 8
[00:16] <COLORS> Wolfgang__: We only provide support for Ubuntu Linux here, I'm sorry
[00:16] <notStewpid> give me support niggas!!!
[00:17] <notStewpid> ubuntu hotspots! do u use them?
[00:17] <bekks> notStewpid: Watch your language and finally ask the REAL question.
[00:17] <COLORS> notStewpid: Please use approprite language here
[00:17] <bekks> I am sorry for the caps.
[00:17] <notStewpid> lol language? rly. fine, sry. Anysways, how can I create a hotspot in ubuntu, such that I can use internet from it on my phone?
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ldiamond: its more like a man dressed as an officer of the law asking for you id; it could be an id theif but hey, you never know.
[00:20] <COLORS> notStewpid: Take a look at this: http://freshtutorial.com/create-your-own-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[00:20] <mneptok> bekks: i asked nicely aabout caps. this is Strike Two.
[00:21] <Guest73736> hello all. Does anyone know what package contains chattr?
[00:21] <bekks> mneptok: I already said sorry in the very next sentence.
[00:21] <mneptok> bekks: if you know it's wrong, don't do it in the first place.
[00:21] <nonan> $ dpkg -S `which chattr` gives: e 2fsprogs: /usr/bin/chattr
[00:21] <bekks> mneptok: That why I said sorry.
[00:21] <nonan> e2fsprogs
[00:21] <COLORS> Chattr is a system binary
[00:22] <Guest73736> nonan: thanks
[00:22] <notStewpid> COLORS: I tried, but it doesn't work.
[00:22] <nonan> yw!
[00:22] <COLORS> notStewpid: Really? Did it give errors?
[00:23] <notStewpid> No erros, but I can't connect my phone to the network. Firstly, there is no security for a while. WHen there is security, it asks me for a username and password, and I don't know what to write for the username.
[00:24] <nonan> what type of phone? are you able to connect any other wifi device to it?
[00:24] <COLORS> notStewpid: Is your error similar to the one decribed here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977556
[00:25] <nearst> howdy ppl
[00:25] <COLORS> Hello nearst, need any help?
[00:26] <notStewpid> COLORS: My phone can see the network, and connect initially, so in that sense it isn't like the problem in the link.
[00:27] <nearst> COLORS, ya. im try to setting up my screen resolution. but it say no gnome-display-properties failed to execute child process :(
[00:28] <COLORS> notStewpid: Is http://tumutanzi.com/archives/8195 any help?
[00:28] <COLORS> nearst: You should file a bug report.
[00:28] <notStewpid> COLORS: I've tried that too, no help.
[00:29] <COLORS> notStewpid: Hmmm... I've never done it myself. Try asking on AskUbuntu or the forums.
[00:30] <nearst> COLORS, owh. u have some problem about that before?
[00:30] <Penguin_> Hi. I'm trying to create an Ubuntu LiveCD and failing at it. Could someone lend me an hand?
[00:30] <nonan> notStewpid: what type of phone? are you able to connect any other wifi device to it?
[00:31] <notStewpid> nonan: iphone, haven't tried any other device.
[00:31] <nearst> im guess iphone 3gs wifi buggy :P. jk
[00:31] <COLORS> nearts: No- but it sounds like a bug, not you doing something wrong.
[00:31] <nonan> which ios ver?
[00:31] <notStewpid> 4.2.1
[00:32] <nearst> COLORS, i dont know how to report a bugs, reading about reporting and apport atm
[00:32] <nonan> hmm...
[00:32] <Penguin_> Anyone? Please.
[00:32] <nearst> Penguin_, creating ubuntu live cd ? what u mean?
[00:32] <Penguin_> A CD from which I can run Ubuntu
[00:32] <Penguin_> Without installing it
[00:32] <Biomechd> hey guys, i can't seem to access my software sources
[00:32] <COLORS> nearst: Do Ctrl+Alt+T and run "ubuntu-bug gnome-display-properties"
[00:33] <AZ0R> a live CD
[00:33] <Penguin_> Yep
[00:33] <nonan> if you can connect another device to ur adhoc wifi ap, and see if it is just your phone acting up..
[00:33] <Penguin_> Thing is, I've never done it before, and the first time I even tried to install a linux distro was a few days ago
[00:33] <Penguin_> So I'm pretty confused about how to actually do it
[00:33] <notStewpid> nonan: It worked with windows 7 on connectify, and it also works with other wireless networks, so I doubt it.
[00:34] <AZ0R> i installed ubuntu while i was running windows and it installed it as a fat32 sharing the same format
[00:34] <notStewpid> nonan: also, please call me by name, so it is easier to notice that you are talking to me. ty.
[00:34] <AZ0R> creating a dual boot
[00:34] <nearst> Penguin_, oic. i recommend try with remastersys, uck and ubuntu-builder work fine. unless ure going serious with lfs
[00:34] <rickb> YES
[00:35] <rickb> Monotoko: that worked! thank you so much!!!
[00:35] <Penguin_> I'll give some background on my situation: I installed Ubuntu on a laptop a few days ago, alongside Windows Vista, to repurpose it into something useful. The problem is that, after installing a few updates on Ubuntu a few hours ago, I got an error, and since then I haven't been able to boot up the PC.
[00:35] <rickb> works wonderfully
[00:35] <MoPac> I'm wondering about whether there are good programs or command sets for running "macro"-like operations on Ubuntu desktops. E.g., say I want to go into a game mode and so issue pause commands in some programs, close other programs, adjust my cpupower profile, etc with one click
[00:35] <nearst> Penguin_, nah. grub im guess
[00:36] <MoPac> Is this something I need to script into a file myself, or are there off-the-shelf soltuions?  I'm particularly interested in commands to close programs that aren't "pkill"
[00:36] <nearst> Penguin_, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[00:36] <Monotoko> rickb, no problem :)
[00:36] <Biomechd> i can't seem to access my software sources, and i keep getting random ubuntu 12.10 errors.
[00:36] <Penguin_> I can't even access the BIOS, so I'm guessing I fucked up pretty badly. That's why I'm trying to run a Live CD with Ubuntu, to at least salvage my files. @nearst, I have no idea what you meant by "remastersys", "uck" or "ubuntu-builder", nor "lfs". I'm inexperienced in this, eh
[00:36] <Biomechd> i also don't recall being able to install anything.
[00:37] <ldiamond> ntzrmtthihu777, it's actually more like some guy dressed as a security guard asking for your id, in Mexico.
[00:37] <Penguin_> I'll give it a read nearst
[00:37] <nearst> Penguin_, okies dokies.
[00:38] <plaidcounty> hello
[00:38] <Penguin_> Hmm, that doesn't really answer my problem
[00:38] <nonan> notStewpid: WEP encryption? or WPA?
[00:38] <Penguin_> I don't want to install Ubuntu from the CD. I want to run it off the CD.
[00:38] <Penguin_> And that page assumes I already know how to make a Live CD
[00:39] <COLORS> nonan: I think it is using 108.11X Pro or whatever its called. It asks for usernamed AND a password :(
[00:39] <notStewpid> WEP
[00:39] <AZ0R> penguin_ try going to a linux forum?
[00:39] <notStewpid> nonan:WEP
[00:39] <COLORS> nonan: Oh wait its called "Enterprise" not "Pro"
[00:39] <Penguin_> Well, I'm trying to do it with Ubuntu specifically
[00:39] <Penguin_> So I thought you guys could help
[00:40] <nearst> Penguin_, thats not install. it chroot your current system with live cd so that ure able to recover your beloved ubuntu
[00:40] <Penguin_> Chroot?
[00:40] <AZ0R> penguine_ ubuntu is very helpfull with forums and porbles as is this
[00:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> ldiamond: so you have a mexican knock-off of ubuntu! must be your problem
[00:40] <nonan> notStewpid: tried admin, admin?
[00:40] <Penguin_> I don't follow Az0r
[00:41] <nonan> notStewpid: w/o the ?
[00:41] <AZ0R> "pen" never mind
[00:41] <plaidcounty> I'm having trouble keeping my wifi connected to my router. Using ASUS USB N-13 (realtek version)
[00:41] <COLORS> Penguin_: Have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[00:41] <adampie> Yeah my seems to disconnect from time to time as well
[00:42] <plaidcounty> It doesn't show as disconnected but just quits.
[00:42] <Penguin_> Colors, "Boot into the live Ubuntu cd. This can be the live installer cd or the older live session Ubuntu cds."
[00:42] <Penguin_> There's the problem
[00:42] <Penguin_> I need help making the actual CD
[00:42] <Penguin_> I have no idea of what to actually put on it.
[00:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> use brasero on ubuntu or burncdcc on windows.
[00:43] <COLORS> Penguin_: Ah, I see- I'll poing you to a tutorial on that. Hold on a sec
[00:43] <Penguin_> Thanks
[00:43] <plaidcounty> adampie: have you ever been able to stop it from disconnecting?
[00:43] <notStewpid> nonan: just tried. still not working.
[00:44] <COLORS> Penguin_: Does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD help at all?
[00:44] <adampie> Ummm no, I just click the Wifi Icon and click on my Router and it eventually reconnects
[00:44] <Penguin_> I was already reading that page, eh
[00:44] <Penguin_> It's very vague. It just says "Download Ubuntu" and "Make your own CD", basically
[00:44] <nonan> notStewpid:  admin, password too?
[00:44] <adampie> Anyone getting problems with a dim/off screen every time you boot? I've searched forums but nothing seems to be fixing it?
[00:45] <nonan> try all of those well known combos!
[00:45] <nonan> and/or file a bug report!
[00:45] <COLORS> Penguin: Do you have the Ubuntu image/ISO file?
[00:46] <Penguin_> Yep
[00:46] <Penguin_> And I have a blank rewritable DVD (best thing I could gind)
[00:46] <COLORS> Penguin_: Ok- try using http://www.softpedia.com/get/CD-DVD-Tools/Data-CD-DVD-Burning/ImgBurn.shtml to burn it to a CD.
[00:46] <notStewpid> nonan: dude, is there something like connectify for linux?
[00:46] <Penguin_> *find
[00:47] <Penguin_> Alright
[00:48] <WBF> k1l, thank you in ratp0is0n right now :D
[00:48] <fat> does any1 know how to move the unity from the left to the bottom (ubuntu 12.10)
[00:48] <plaidcounty> So far the only way I've found to keep a steady connection over wifi is to keep a constant ping going in the terminal.
[00:48] <COLORS> fat: As far as I know you cannot do that yet
[00:48] <k1l> WBF: ok :)
[00:49] <fat> C0L0rS: aaah dam! k
[00:49] <COLORS> fat: If you want a bottom dock-type thing, do "sudo apt-get install docky"
[00:49] <fat> COLORS: do u mean a panel?
[00:50] <COLORS> fat: yah
[00:51] <adampie> plaid: i just cant seem to understand as my router is in the room next to mine, if it carries on im changing to ethernet
[00:51] <nonan> notStewpid:  which ubuntu ver?
[00:51] <WBF> k1l, ratpoision is lagging through so may switch to LXDE :D
[00:51] <Penguin_> Oh God
[00:51] <notStewpid> 12.4 lts
[00:51] <COLORS> What?
[00:51] <notStewpid> nonan: 12.4
[00:51] <Penguin_> So I was burning the CD
[00:52] <COLORS> Yeah...?
[00:52] <Penguin_> And suddenly the tower started making noises and I practically jumped off my chair
[00:52] <Penguin_> I'm an idiot
[00:52] <nonan> notStewpid:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc#Wireless_Extensions_CLI_tools_Method
[00:52] <COLORS> xD Wow lol
[00:52] <nonan> notStewpid: tried that?
[00:52] <Penguin_> At this point
[00:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> omfg that's the funniest thing I heard in forever.
[00:52] <Penguin_> I'm just praying I don't ruin my desktop
[00:52] <COLORS> Penguin_: The noises are your CD drive working
[00:52] <plaidcounty> adampie: yeah, ethernet works for me, too but I'm stubborn and don't want a cable running across my living room to my desktop.
[00:52] <Penguin_> Trying to save the laptop
[00:52] <Penguin_> No, no, I know Colors, I'm not that stupid
[00:53] <Penguin_> But I wasn't expecting it
[00:53] <COLORS> Penguin: Oh ok lol
[00:53] <nonan> notStewpid: also, may be relavent:  GUI Method via Network Manager (Ubuntu 12.04)
[00:53] <nonan> Open Settings->Network->Wireless and create a new Ad Hoc network. To use a common denominator for all devices choose WEP for security and create a 5 letters password from 0..9A..F. Note that this a least secure encryption standard.
[00:53] <Penguin_> Seems like I'm not sleeping tonight
[00:53] <Penguin_> Bleh
[00:53] <L3mce> enter | Penguin_
[00:53] <notStewpid> nonan: gonna try that command line method now...fingers crossed...
[00:54] <L3mce> !enter | Penguin_
[00:54] <nearst> notStewpid, gudluck. 80% of my time is on cli rather than eye candy
[00:54] <plaidcounty> I've had this same wifi connectivity problem with my linksys ae2500 wifi adapter on 32 bit 12.10 with ndiswrapper with the xp driver
[00:54] <Penguin_> Oh, alright. Anyhow, disk is burned, let's see how this goes
[00:55] <COLORS> Penguin_: Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
[00:55] <plaidcounty> I've also self compiled the realtek driver for the asus usb n-13 with no luck. same connectivity issue.
[00:55] <Penguin_> The laptop's CD drive sounds like it's dying. Jesus, I hope this works.
[00:56] <adampie> plaidcountry: I would prefer Wifi but if it stops me from what ever I am doing frequently I will probably have to change to ethernet
[00:56] <COLORS> The CD drive always sounds like it's eating cornflakes when you run the LiveCD. PErfectly normal. :P
[00:57] <nearst> adampie, http://linuxplained.com/how-to-fix-wireless-problems-in-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/
[00:57] <adampie> Anyone know how to fix the black screen at boot so I dont have to fn every boot?
[00:57] <nearst> !nomodeset | adampie
[00:57] <L3mce> The sound of your CD/DVD drive has nothing to do with linux or Ubuntu.
[00:58] <Penguin_> Is that directed at me?
[00:58] <Penguin_> If so, I'm aware
[00:59] <adampie> Ahh thanks!
[00:59] <COLORS> !
[01:00] <COLORS> Oops, key misspress
[01:01] <Penguin_> And the results are in: Still getting a black screen while the HDD (I assume) makes a whirring sound once and no more sounds afterwards.
[01:01] <evilfix> heya all.. does anyone here run an acer c7 chromebook with ChrUbuntu installed? have some questions..
[01:02] <Gavilan2> what are the best desktop/window managers for ubuntu?
[01:02] <escott> !best | Gavilan2
[01:02] <nearst> byobu and lxde for me
[01:02] <notStewpid> nonan: same problem. username and password!!!
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> define best, you want low resource usage? I like gnome-fallback for that, although I hear lxde is good for that too.
[01:03] <luckybunny> I like Unity
[01:03] <luckybunny> didn't used to
[01:03]  * ntzrmtthihu777 vomits
[01:03] <nearst> im on pentium M :(
[01:03] <cfhowlett> Gavilan2, totally up to you.  nice thing is you can install and sample a wide range of DE's with a quick apt-get install command
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> notStewpid: dpgk --reconfigure lightdm
[01:03] <luckybunny> when it arrived, it was the single most horrific thing I'd ever seen
[01:04] <luckybunny> nowadays it's a lot better
[01:04] <luckybunny> plus I've seen Windows 8
[01:04] <COLORS> Penguin_: Is your boot order set up?
[01:04]  * ntzrmtthihu777 vomits harder
[01:04] <Penguin_> Excuse me? I don't very much appreciate you talking about my mother like that.
[01:04] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: How do I install them with apt get install?
[01:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> apt-get install lxde or whatever, simple.
[01:04] <yown> Can one look at files one can potentially recover, with photorec, without actually recovering them? If not, is there a recovery program you guys can recommend for ubuntu that can?
[01:04] <luckybunny> I mean seriously... unity vs metro... it's a no brainer
[01:05] <nearst> !apt-get | Gavilan2
[01:05] <nearst> !apt-get | Gavilan3
[01:05] <escott> yown, no
[01:05] <notStewpid> ntzrmtthihu777: What?
[01:05] <evilfix> is there a way to get apt-get to install ONLY security updates?
[01:05] <Penguin_> After reading on it, I assume it is, Colors. I didn't mess with it. Not that I can change it anyhow, because I can't even get into the BIOS.
[01:05] <cfhowlett> Gavilan2, there's a list of ubuntu DE's out there somewhere.  Suppose you're on vanilla ubuntu but you're curious about lxde. sudo apt-get install lxde will give you that!  then logout.  on login back in, choose lxde session and try it.
[01:06] <luckybunny> a no brainer in which unity defecates all over metro, contracts dysentry and then defecates some more
[01:06] <yown> escott  With a recovery program, can it recover more data then free space on said drive?
[01:06] <cfhowlett> evilfix, yep.  set your update settings to security only.
[01:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> notStewpid: you are stuck with the black-screen login, right?
[01:06] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: I'd like to try gnome and kde... how to install them and switch between them?
[01:06] <Gavilan3> !Synaptic (Gnome)
[01:06] <escott> yown, i dont follow the question. no i think would be your answer
[01:06] <nonan> notStewpid: sudo iwconfig <ethX|wlanX>
[01:06] <Gavilan3> !Synaptic Gnome
[01:06] <Gavilan3> !Gnome
[01:06] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3 sudo apt-get install kde    logout/   choose KDE login
[01:07] <notStewpid> ntzrmtthihu777: nope, trying to get wifi hotspot working.
[01:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, nvm.
[01:07] <nearst> Gavilan3, then install kubuntu-desktop and gnome-desktop-environment
[01:07] <luckybunny> I missed gnome 2 for the first year or so of unity, and was using lxde instead
[01:07] <COLORS> Penguin_: You can't access the BIOS? But Ubuntu does not alter the contents of the CMOS, the BIOS should be inteact.
[01:07] <COLORS> *intact
[01:07] <yown> escott: OK, let me approach from a different angle then. Can data to recover be hidden between data already on a drive? Or only in free space? I understand that even with data overwrite, you can recover data. But I suppose only with super expensive stuff?
[01:08] <evilfix> im just worred some of that wont work out with finicky chrome ubuntu install, dont know if it will break anything or not
[01:08] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: E: Package 'kde' has no installation candidate
[01:08] <Penguin_> Is there some way to send a private message? I'd rather not flood the main channel with my explanation
[01:08] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, wait 1
[01:08] <escott> yown, if it has been overwritten it is pretty much gone
[01:08] <Penguin_> Oops, just discovered it, never mind
[01:08] <COLORS> Penguin_: Do /msg COLORS message
[01:08] <plaidcounty> ntzrm: that was adampie, but he's offline now.
[01:08] <Gavilan3> So I do: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" for gnome?
[01:09] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[01:09] <yown> escott when you move data from one partition to another on the same drive, you actually move the data, rather then giving it another address, right?
[01:09] <escott> yown, its a copy followed by a delete
[01:10] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[01:10] <yown> escott: but that isn't the case when data is moved within the same partition, right?
[01:10] <escott> yown, in most cases no. same filesystem is just a change in the hardlinks
[01:10] <notStewpid> nonan: still asks me for username and password. don't know what ur trying to do there
[01:11] <nonan> notStewpid: i wanted to see the o/p of sudo iwconfig on your interface
[01:11] <nonan> anyways,
[01:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, oh well plaidcounty.
[01:11] <fat> How do i configure docky. I have 5 apps on it (firefox, termional, empathy, rubbish bin and  music player). how do i put my own ones there
[01:12] <scooby> I want to be able to log out from the shell - I tried gnome-session-quit and I get a warning that it failed to call logout - how do I logout at the shell
[01:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gavilan3: ubuntu-desktop will give you unity in the newer versions of ubuntu.
[01:12] <nonan> notStewpid: apparantly its a known problem, few others have reported it too, http://bit.ly/15FdKD4
[01:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> scooby: you mean go into cli mode?
[01:13] <nonan> notStewpid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/251971/ad-hoc-wep-requesting-username , stfw!
[01:14] <scooby> ntzrmtthihu777: yes - I want to do it as a cli commen
[01:14] <notStewpid> nonan: where do I put that code?
[01:15] <scooby> ntzrmtthihu777: what I mean is that when at a terminal prompt I want to be able to logout
[01:15] <fat> help pls
[01:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo logout should do it, no?
[01:16] <fat> C0L0RS: do u use docky
[01:16] <k1l> scooby: "exit"
[01:16] <scooby> ntzrmtthihu777: no - because logout realizes that I am a shell and says to use exit
[01:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> no, that would kill the terminal he is in, right?
[01:17] <nearst> kill
[01:18] <scooby> k11: no - exit will close that shell session not log me out - under previous revisions of ubuntu I could do gnome-session-save --logout - but this is no longer there and the docs imply gnom-session-quit is the replacement but it does not work
[01:18] <escott> scooby, gnome-session-quit would kill your gui session
[01:19] <scooby> escott: yes - that is what I want - however the problem is that when I do it, and I have truied on multiple 12.x systems I get: WARNING: Failed to call logout
[01:19] <mrproper> hello. Is there a way to disable single user mode in grub2?
[01:20] <escott> scooby, is gnome-session running
[01:20] <escott> mrproper, why would you bother
[01:20] <yown> escott: Does writting a boot image on a usb flash drive the equivalent of writting over it?
[01:20] <nonan> notStewpid: say,  /root/file.conf, as long as you launch  it as shown in that page, wpa_supplicant -c/root/file.conf -i<interface> -D<driver> . see man wpa_supplicant
[01:20] <yown> completely?
[01:20] <mrproper> escott: it's just a question. Curiosity
[01:20] <usr13> mrproper: Disable single user mode?  Not sure why but I guess you could delete that entry in the config.
[01:20] <scooby> escott: I assume so, I got to the terminal from the gui desktop - if that is what you mean
[01:21] <escott> mrproper, ^^ the user can always just add it back. physical access is root access is the general principle followed for the last 50 years
[01:21] <yown> What channel should I got to, to ask for advice on which linux distro to use?
[01:21] <escott> scooby, ps aux | grep gnome-session; killall gnome-session
[01:21] <cfhowlett> yown, #linux
[01:21] <fat> how do i configure docky. please help. i can't create any applications on it
[01:21] <k1l> yown: #linux
[01:22] <mrproper> escott: yes, but anyway. Is there a way? I mean, I don't want a user to user single user mode even if he/she is editing the grub entry and editing it by hand
[01:22] <Jeremy3D> i'm not sure if anyone can answer this. i download a new build of Blender every couple of days. I have some scripts/addons that I want to always have available, but dont want to have to move them in each build folder. anyone think they can help?
[01:23] <cfhowlett> Jeremy3D, #blender is the place for that question
[01:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all
[01:23] <cfhowlett> Jeremy3D, or possibly #ubuntustudio
[01:23] <Jeremy3D> cfhowlett, asked there but noone on uses ubuntu. :\
[01:23] <cfhowlett> mrproper, perhaps better to password protect the grub?
[01:23] <scooby> escott: I guess I am not really running gnome-session - at least according to ps - so what am I running - I am using this very system now and have this chat opened throug chatzilla etc - so I have a session
[01:24] <escott> scooby, what desktop environment are you using
[01:24] <mrproper> cfhowlett: yes, I know. There are hundred of better options. Is just a question xD
[01:24] <friedg> join #linux
[01:24] <magn3ts> Why does Steam suck so much at packaging?
[01:24] <scooby> escott: this system is xfce - this one is running xubuntu
[01:24] <fbc_> Is there any solution to installing ubuntu on a UEFI  LENOVO z475 with no legacy mode?
[01:25] <cfhowlett> Jeremy3D, I would think that a new build of blender means it doesn't pick up your preferences/links etc.  Thus the need to specify for each build ...
[01:25] <usr13> mrproper: After you do that, you'll also need to set the PC to only boot the HD and password protect the BIOS as well.
[01:25] <cfhowlett> magn3ts, as no here actually works for Valve, perhaps direct your query elsewhere?  Valve support maybe ...
[01:25] <escott> mrproper, to secure your system from a physical access attack you need (a) a case intrusion device (b) password protected uefi (c) secure boot (d) password protected grub (e) a version of grub that only boots signed kernels (f) a signed kernel (g) a secure system
[01:26] <escott> scooby, i dont know what they use but its not gnome-session. ps aux | grep session might say
[01:26] <cfhowlett> fbc_, 12.4.2 has a uefi workaround
[01:26] <escott> usr13, i laugh at your attempts to secure a system with a mere bios password
[01:27] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: I followed that link, I still see unity...
[01:27] <fbc_> cfhowlett, please go on.
[01:27] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, you have to logout.  then you choose the environment you want to work with.  log in ....
[01:28] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: I restarted which includes logging out
[01:28] <scooby> escott: there is an xfce-session - I will try killing that I guess  - so if it works: thanks and good bye
[01:29] <cfhowlett> fbc_, without the tech-babble, ubuntu 12.4.2 has a UEFI workaround allowing you to install on a uefi equipped machine without bricking it.  applies mostly to samsung.  sorry I can't be more specific as I haven't yet dealt with UEFI issues on my '09 dell.
[01:29] <fbc_> cfhowlett, Any link or a guide you can point me to?
[01:30] <cfhowlett> fbc_, lenovo ... what model?
[01:30] <fbc_> cfhowlett, z475
[01:30] <scooby> escott: TY so much - killing the xfce4-session seems to give me exactly what I want - it is NOT elegant but appears to work
[01:31] <cfhowlett> fbc_, and you're installing 12.4.2 the LTS release?
[01:31] <fbc_> cfhowlett, Iwas tryign 12.10, but I'll do whatever realse that works.
[01:31] <cfhowlett> fbc wait 1
[01:32] <jasunto> ubuntu 12.10 with GTX-580 SLI? is it possible
[01:32] <jasunto> ?
[01:32] <nearst> ima replace lightdm to lxdm. more better im guesss
[01:33] <Gavilan3> cfhowlett: Sorry, I missed that option... Now I found it...
[01:33] <cfhowlett> fbc_, see   http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=100577
[01:33] <Gavilan3> What's the best way to make ubuntu look and behave at close as possible to windows?
[01:33] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, no worries.  enjoy your new look
[01:33] <Gavilan3> thanks
[01:33] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, err, ok ... xfce/lxde mimic ubuntu to an extent
[01:34] <Gavilan3> I meant having a taskbar, a start menu on the bottom
[01:34] <Gavilan3> the windows hotkeys...
[01:34] <Gavilan3> windows key + r to run a command...
[01:34] <Gavilan3> etc... etc...
[01:34] <cfhowlett> !keys|Gavilan3,
[01:35] <luckybunny> so I've freed up 76GB, but I still think I'm not using anything remotely close to 203GB
[01:35] <Gavilan3> Is there any way  to automatically set it up so it matches windows as close as possible?
[01:35] <fbc_> cfhowlett, ok, maybe I'll have better luck with 12.4.2. Thanks
[01:35] <Gavilan3> I don't want to configure it manually... I want some magic script or something....
[01:35] <cfhowlett> fbc_, best of luck.
[01:35] <cfhowlett> Gavilan3, yeah, well, no.  You want the candy, you gotta put in the work ...
[01:36] <nearst> hihi.
[01:37] <rahulsuman> Someone there?
[01:37] <cfhowlett> rahulsuman, there were?
[01:37] <fat> can i add another panel at the bottom (ubuntu 12.10)
[01:37] <KromiX> hi
[01:38] <KromiX> of course u can do anything u want
[01:38] <cfhowlett> KromiX, greetings
[01:38] <rahulsuman> cfhowlett: I am newbie to irc, any suggested channels?
[01:39] <cfhowlett> rahulsuman, this is ubuntu support.  for general chit chat use #ubuntu-offtopic   Specific programs sometimes have  a channel, thus #gimp   or   #blender   Musician?  #linux-musicians ....
[01:39] <fat> how can i add nother panel at the bottom??
[01:39] <plaidcounty> is there a specific channel for wifi problems on 12.10?
[01:40] <cfhowlett> !wifi|plaidcounty,
[01:40] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, best to ask here ...
[01:41] <reverendp> How can I uninstall the steam launcher from the command line
[01:42] <cfhowlett> reverendp, depends on how it was installed ...  try       sudo apt-get purge steam
[01:42] <plaidcounty> my problem with my wifi is that it seems to stay connected according to the notification however nothing will connect.
[01:42] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, are you also running a wired connection?
[01:42] <plaidcounty> Only way I've been able to keep a steady connection is to keep a constant ping going in a terminal
[01:43] <plaidcounty> negative. I've in IRC on my android tablet right now.
[01:43] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, in  a terminal:   ping www.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <plaidcounty> I rebuilt the realtek driver with the linux headers for the ASUS USB N-13 but still has the same problem of "quitting" without disconnecting
[01:44] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: ping is started for www.ubuntu.com
[01:45] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, and I assume it sees ubuntu...
[01:45] <plaidcounty> yes
[01:45] <reverendp> cfhowlett hmm it says its not installed.  I installed it from terminal and it kept crashing.  I think I might have installed the 64 version.
[01:45] <plaidcounty> jujube.canonical.com to be precise
[01:45] <hfswhere> im looking at an osx hfs+ partition from ubuntu, where are the user files? /media/Macintosh HD/Users seems empty of music/documents etc
[01:46] <cfhowlett> reverendp, something to look at ...
[01:46] <hfswhere> ubuntu 11.10 live cd
[01:47] <reverendp> cfhowlett i've tried remove also and still not installed but the launcher is.  The USC won't let me install the 32 till I remove the launcher
[01:47] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, my wifi experience is on Broadcom and I'm happy to say that's gotten a WHOLE lot easier over the years.  No working knowledge of realtek, but I would suspect fully updating your system and then rebuilding the driver should fix it.
[01:48] <cfhowlett> reverendp, HOW exactly did you install?  Ubuntu software center or a different method?
[01:48] <reverendp> cfhowlett no I used the terminal to install it
[01:49] <cfhowlett> reverendp, apt-get steam.deb or dpkg -i?
[01:49] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: I was hoping the same, however I've reinstalled entire system twice with no luck and with two different wifi usb adapters. Other was linksys ae2500 (ndiswrapper from xp on 32bit for that one.)
[01:50] <fat> where is the terminal's image file path (the black board)?
[01:50] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, try a different hotspot and see if the problem persists.  If yes, your driver/hardware is suspect.  If no, your current hotspot might have some routing/settings that are futzing your connection.
[01:50] <reverendp> cfhowlett, I think dppkg -i
[01:51] <k1l> fat: you can change that in the settings
[01:51] <cfhowlett> reverendp, ahhh, well then.  sudo dpkg -r is what you want
[01:51] <fat> k1l: i dont wnat to change it. i just want to find it
[01:51] <plaidcounty> I'll try connecting to an android tether.
[01:51] <k1l> fat: its not a image. its just a color
[01:52] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, clever.  I didn't even think of that
[01:52] <fat> k1l: it is an image. it looks like this: http://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/stilllife/128x128/apps/gnome-terminal.png
[01:53] <k1l> fat: ah sry. thought you ment the background from the terminal
[01:53] <fat> k1l: nope. do u know where i can find it my file system?
[01:53] <reverendp> cfhowlett, will try that thanks so much, I am still learning
[01:53] <cfhowlett> reverendp, no worries
[01:54] <yown> I am having trouble with the linux channel, and I wish to discuss distro options. Where is another place I can go to do so?
[01:54] <rurufufuss> how does one run the disks program (for benchmarking harddrives) from the command line?
[01:54] <fat> yown: #linux
[01:54] <rurufufuss> 12.10 complains that running from the menu doesn't have proper permissions :/
[01:54] <fat> yown: type /j linux
[01:54] <duckx0r> I'm having trouble getting the live CD to mount. in both gparted and partitionmanager, "mount" is grayed out for all partitions. i also can't write to the live CD because it says read only file system. how do I mount with write access?
[01:54] <k1l> fat: /usr/share/icons ?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> !ot|yown would be good for that, but of course, favorably biased toward ubuntu
[01:54] <escott> rurufufuss, there are many different benchmarking tools. which one
[01:54] <yown> fat That just forwards me to ##linux, which I said I was having trouble with
[01:54] <k1l> fat or in ~/.icons
[01:55] <cfhowlett> duckx0r, live system is a CDrom or USB
[01:55] <rurufufuss> escott: never mind, found it, it was gnome-disks
[01:55] <fat> k1l: in the /usr/share/icons is the terminal image there?
[01:55] <cfhowlett> yown, www.distrowatch.com
[01:55] <tidux> when can we expect a generic apk for "Ubuntu for Android"?
[01:55] <yown> cfhowlett: So ubuntu-offtopic is a good place to discuss distro options?
[01:55] <sam_> need to install Mavis beacon 20 on ubuntu 12.04 wine . the program installs nicely . it works verywell except that cursor blinks when i move the mouse http://pastebin.com/MvL823aY
[01:55] <sam_> that was my log file
[01:55] <cfhowlett> yown, start there ...
[01:56] <duckx0r> cfhowlett, usb
[01:56] <fat> k1l: no its not there.
[01:56] <sam_> need to install Mavis beacon 20 on ubuntu 12.04 wine . the program installs nicely . it works verywell except that cursor blinks when i move the mouse http://pastebin.com/MvL823aY
[01:56] <yown> cfhowlett: I do not find the information on that website very digestible, or useful for comparison to a novice like me
[01:56] <tidux> sam_: stop spamming
[01:57] <k1l> yown: that is all very offtopic here. so please stop that topic
[01:57] <sam_> im not spaming im asking a question :( !!!!!
[01:57] <cfhowlett> duckx0r, adding files to live system while it's booted?
[01:57] <escott> tidux, never
[01:57] <k1l> !patience > sam_
[01:57] <fat> k1l: do u know
[01:57] <tidux> escott: why not?
[01:57] <duckx0r> cfhowlett, either that or copying files from one partition to another on the hard drive. i can't seem to mount anything with write access
[01:58] <tidux> It's just a chroot environment, right?
[01:58] <k1l> !phone | tidux
[01:58] <cfhowlett> !chroot|duckx0r   is the command you want
[01:58] <k1l> fat: no. you gotta search for yourself if noone knows else
[01:58] <fat> k1l: ok
[01:58] <yown> k1I Gladly, just answer the question about where to go then please
[01:59] <k1l> yown: you were shown several channels
[01:59] <cfhowlett> yown, if no live discussion is available on irc, you should consider using the mailing list of which there are .... many.
[02:00] <sam_> need to install Mavis beacon 20 on ubuntu 12.04 wine . the program installs nicely . it works verywell except that cursor blinks when i move the mouse http://pastebin.com/MvL823aY
[02:00] <duckx0r> cfhowlett, how would i use chroot to mount with write access?
[02:01] <cfhowlett> !wine|sam_,
[02:01] <k1l> sam_: for wine support see the wine support :) they know best whats going on
[02:01] <cfhowlett> yown, already advised you to see #linux.  best answer you'll get today.
[02:02] <WBF> having an issue with compiling vamos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560386/
[02:02] <sam_> err:richedit:ReadStyleSheet skipping optional destination  anybody knows what it means?
[02:03] <escott> duckx0r, chroot wont do anything for your situation
[02:03] <escott> duckx0r, what kind of filesystem are you trying to mount?
[02:03] <duckx0r> escott, fat32 and ext3
[02:04] <saloomi2012> Hello what does  System > Preferences > Startup Applications mean?
[02:04] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, what programs start automagically when you login
[02:05] <saloomi2012> how do i know that?
[02:05] <saloomi2012> cfhowlett
[02:05] <rurufufuss> what possible reasons for copy speeds being really slow, while hard drive testing (i.e hdparm) shows everything is ok?
[02:05] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, see the startup applications?  Those.
[02:05] <NathanWW> what version of ubuntu should i use to install on a panasonic toughbook cf-28, it has the intel intel 82830 video chipset, 364meg ram 600mhz P3 cpu. ? anyu recomendations
[02:05] <saloomi2012> where would that be located i dont even know what System > Preferences > Startup Applications means cfhowlett
[02:05] <rurufufuss> hdparm test shows that read speed is at 100mb/s, but cp (as shown in gcp) is going at 1.0mb/s..
[02:05] <cfhowlett> NathanWW, lubuntu or xubuntu are lightweight distros optimized for older and low spec machines
[02:06] <k1l> NathanWW: wich a big amount of luck Lubuntu will run
[02:06] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: what are you copying? and to where?
[02:06] <NathanWW> what about a netbook 10.10 ubuntu version?
[02:06] <NathanWW> any thoughts there?
[02:06] <k1l> NathanWW: but with that old cpu there will be some problems maybe. so no guarantee here.
[02:06] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: from disk to ramdrive, from disk to same disk
[02:06] <cfhowlett> NathanWW, I think 10.10 is no longer supported ...
[02:06] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: both are very very slow
[02:06] <fat> does any1 here use CAIRO DOCK?
[02:06] <k1l> NathanWW: 10.10 is out of support.
[02:07] <duckx0r> escott, i was able to figure out how to write to the live USB, so i'll just copy the files there and then copy them back to the hard drive after install
[02:07] <saloomi2012> Hello what does  System > Preferences > Startup Applications mean and how to use it?
[02:07] <nezZario> what's the next in line as far as 'unstableness' in ubuntu after lts ?
[02:07] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, use it to do what?
[02:07] <NathanWW> bugger i can get debian lenny to run but the new version dropped support of my graphics chipset lol
[02:07] <nezZario> sorry, mostly deal with debian, this guy installed ubuntu so I figure i'll try to get the ins & outs real quick..
[02:07] <saloomi2012> what does it even mean cfhowlett?
[02:07] <saloomi2012> is it like a terminal command or what?
[02:07] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, as stated, THOSE are the programs that start automatically at launch.
[02:07] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: anything shows up in dmesg?
[02:08] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: what do I do with dmesg?
[02:08] <nearst> dmesg is like log
[02:08] <saloomi2012> and how to modify those? cfhowlett
[02:08] <ryebread761> Anyone here deal with Ubuntu on Macs?
[02:08] <rurufufuss> there's quite a lot of stuff there in dmesg
[02:08] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, depends on your ubuntu version which is ....?
[02:08] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: it displays logging messages from the kernel
[02:08] <saloomi2012> cfhowlett 12.10
[02:09] <fat> does any1 use cairo dock?
[02:09] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: there's a lot of chrome-related messages there it seems
[02:09] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: maybe pastebin the output of dmesg
[02:09] <saloomi2012> so any idea how cfhowlett?
[02:09] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: http://pastebin.com/TbmnQce1
[02:09] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, I'm on 12.4 xubuntu so mine differs from yours.  restate your question; I'm on 12.10.  I want program FOO to start automatically on login.  How do I set that up?
[02:10] <cfhowlett> saloomi2012, and someone will help you with it.
[02:10] <rurufufuss> the other thing, I tried using gnome-disks to benchmark it, but it keeps telling me that device/resource is busy
[02:10] <nearst> why not trying todo do-release-upgrade :D
[02:10] <saloomi2012> I'm on 12.10.  I want program FOO to start automatically on login.  How do I set that up?
[02:11] <escott> saloomi2012, gnome-session-properties
[02:11] <nearst> !patience | saloomi2012
[02:11] <saloomi2012> escott where is that located?
[02:12] <nezZario> uh, how the crap do I move off LTS ?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> nezZario, install 12.10 you mean?
[02:13] <escott> saloomi2012, /usr/bin
[02:13] <rurufufuss> hmm, now that I look at dmesg, I see some "SATA link down", what could that mean?
[02:13] <usr13> nezZario: Just change it on the update manager.
[02:13] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: no dice on the android tether. double checked, though, on my netbook with a broadcom chip on 12.10... works as expected with my router.
[02:13] <nezZario> this is a server.
[02:14] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: did you disconnect disks?
[02:14] <nezZario> shouldn't I be able to change apt sources.list and just update uprgade dist-upgrade ?
[02:14] <k1l> nezZario: set release prompt to not lts
[02:14] <usr13> nezZario: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
[02:14] <k1l> nezZario: no dont do that
[02:14] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: physically or software-wise? nope
[02:15] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, that suggests to my mind a setting issue on your box.  Sadly, I don't where to look though.  sorry.  ask again in channel.  you might want to make a text file of the problem and paste it so you don't have to re-type
[02:15] <k1l> nezZario: use do-release-upgrade
[02:15] <usr13> nezZario: But do you really want to move away from LTS on a server?
[02:15] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: might be somekind of powermanagement stuff
[02:15] <saloomi2012> where is the Terminal app located?
[02:15] <rurufufuss> I just realised, that when going on "places" and looking at the devices, I can't mount anything
[02:15] <nezZario> yeah, i'll give it a shot
[02:15] <nezZario> it's a development server anyway
[02:15] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: did you set anything like that?
[02:15] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: hmm, lack of power?
[02:15] <k1l> nezZario: and as a server admin you want to read the manuals and release notes :)
[02:15] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: no idea, I did put in another 16GB of ram onto the CPU
[02:15] <cfhowlett> k1l, you funny!
[02:15] <rurufufuss> to 24GB now
[02:15] <usr13> nezZario: Never mind, it was not a relevant question.  Sorry.
[02:16] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: no more like suspending the channel because of no activity or such
[02:16] <plaidcounty> cfhowlett: thanks. kind of thought that's where this was going :) Wish me luck!
[02:16] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: is this a laptop? did you suspend it by any chance?
[02:16] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: oh, I did suspend the computer
[02:16] <cfhowlett> plaidcounty, best of luck!
[02:16]  * k1l funny?
[02:16] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: that is it then
[02:16] <rurufufuss> the cause of the slow speeds you mean?
[02:17] <rurufufuss> or the SATA link down
[02:17] <cfhowlett> ki1 ... "as a server admin ..."
[02:17] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: the links going down and up
[02:17] <rurufufuss> ah right
[02:17] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: might be related to the bad speed too
[02:17] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: id just try rebooting
[02:17] <rurufufuss> well, the bad speed happens when I reboot too I think
[02:17] <mgolisch> but it usualy shouldnt cause problems like that
[02:18] <rurufufuss> okay, gonna try reboot once more
[02:18] <rurufufuss> thanks for being helpful btw
[02:18] <saloomi2012> How to add the Terminal in startup application prefrences?
[02:19] <gman529> Hey everyone
[02:19] <cfhowlett> gman529, greetings
[02:19] <gman529> I am having some trouble with ubuntu 12.04 that I just can't figure out
[02:19] <escott> saloomi2012, run gnome-session-properties and add your terminal there
[02:19] <jasunto> this is like watching paint dry
[02:19] <nezZario> ok, yeah, i can't even find a single tutorial on how to upgrade debian without the use of gui and packages I don't even have .. :)
[02:20] <saloomi2012> i know escott but where is the terminal located? to i just drag it?
[02:20] <nezZario> i'm just going to change the apt source.list and do what I said, .. can't hurt
[02:20] <escott> saloomi2012, type "which gnome-terminal"
[02:20] <escott> saloomi2012, and it will give you the full path
[02:20] <gman529> Anyone have any idea what would cause the mouse to stop working on the desktop landscape, but work on the unity and title bars
[02:20] <gman529> right click and left click don't work
[02:21] <cfhowlett> nezZario, before you do all that?  might want to check in #ubuntu-server
[02:21] <gman529> also, they don't work on the any programs opened up
[02:21] <gman529> I have googled and googled and I can't find shit
[02:22] <k1l> nezZario: this isnt debian support.
[02:22] <escott> gman529, nautilus isn't running or isn't drawing the desktop
[02:22] <saloomi2012> escott to test that  do i relog ?
[02:22] <Foxhoundz> How do I disable the suggested apps adware Ubuntu installs on my OS by default?
[02:23] <krkelly> is there anyone who could help me with some openvpn issues?
[02:23] <escott> gman529, if its not working in any applications but working for dragging windows then compiz is bugging out
[02:23] <cfhowlett> !lens|Foxhoundz,
[02:23] <gman529> hmm
[02:23] <Foxhoundz> cfhowlett: ?
[02:23] <gman529> what is really odd is this is a fresh install
[02:24] <cfhowlett> Foxhoundz, you want to disable amazon lens.  thought there was a factoid ..
[02:24] <rurufufuss> hmm, the slow copying speed is still there :(
[02:24] <gman529> and it works in the ubuntu test desktop
[02:25] <trism> !adlens | Foxhoundz
[02:26] <cfhowlett> gman529, different drivers are active on live boot if I'm not mistaken.  some kind of generic "mouse driver"
[02:26] <cfhowlett> trism, thanks.
[02:26] <nezZario> k1l: wouldn't that be like saying you can't ask about tcip because this isn't bsd support ?
[02:26] <ikla> does unity work well with dual monitors?
[02:26] <cfhowlett> Foxhoundz, or logout, choose a different Desktop Environment and log in.
[02:26] <DJHenjin_> rsync is faster and more efficient than scp ove ssh via CLI right?
[02:26] <k1l> nezZario: cmon
[02:26] <cfhowlett> nezZario, regardless this ain
[02:27] <cfhowlett> aint' debian support.
[02:27] <gman529> cfhowlett, so all I would need to do is change xorg.conf and set the file to use the generic driver
[02:27] <krkelly> is there anyone who could help me with some openvpn issues?
[02:27] <k1l> nezZario: the upgrade process differs alot between debian and ubuntu. so ask the specific support
[02:27] <cfhowlett> gman529, eloquent.  start there
[02:28] <usr13> !topic | nezZario
[02:28] <gman529> cfhowlet, I know linux, but this new ubuntu is really different and I haven't kept up
[02:28] <cfhowlett> gman529, no worries.  we're ALL learning.
[02:28] <gman529> cfhowlet, Thanks for the info thought.
[02:29] <ikla> does unity work well with dual monitors?
[02:29] <gman529> ikla, yes if you can get it working
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> 21.10 gnome classic de ... i recently added a second monitor, no problems ... when i reboot, only the monitor without my panels is active ... the kludge i've come up with is to right-click on desktop & choose "change desktop background" then click the "all settings" tab & then Displays ... i then check "mirror displays" & apply ... the inactive monitor becomes active ... i then uncheck "mirror displays" and the second monitor remains ac
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> tive ... i've googled and not found anything quite like this ... couls someone provide a more elegant solution ;-)
[02:29] <k1l> gman529: there is no old desktop in unoty
[02:29] <k1l> *unity
[02:29] <mgolisch> rurufufuss: hm has it ever been faster?
[02:29] <fbc_> cfhowlett, I think I figured this out. I'm supposed to be using the amd64+mac images
[02:29] <k1l> gman529: so you cant place dektop icons on your desktop etc. (by default)
[02:30] <ikla> gman529, I thought ubuntu didn't require me to get things working
[02:30] <cfhowlett> fbc_, dern details!
[02:30] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: yeah, after 12.10 for like one day, then I installed new rams, then it's super slow now
[02:30] <cfhowlett> fbc_, but I should have asked ...
[02:30] <gman529> ikla, the dual monitors does require some settings adjustment and possible driver selection
[02:30] <rurufufuss> mgolisch: but then the ramdrive speed is super fast, so it can't be ram issue can it?
[02:31] <gman529> ikla, but that has been something with linux for awhile
[02:31] <ikla> once agazin I thought ubuntu licked your butt and did it all for you :)
[02:31] <nearst> rurufufuss, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/check-ram-in-ubuntu/ :D
[02:31] <ikla> I'll try it out and see
[02:31] <gman529> k1l, but I could right click on desktop landscape on the test desktop and i get the menu
[02:31] <tcstar> So, it seems as though thunderbird doesn't allow for custom servers for mail.. it wants either imap. or pop3. in the URL which I don't have on my server...  So, what's an alternative email client that's decent to run?
[02:31] <gman529> k1l, once it's installed I get nothing
[02:32] <nearst> tcstar, im use claw-mail or mutt.
[02:32] <k1l> gman529: afaik its the regular behaviour in unity. i think you can set the oldschool behaviour anywhere but i dont know where
[02:33] <k1l> gman529: i cant click on my desktop too
[02:33] <rurufufuss> nearst: 24202 total mem, I'm assuming megabytes?
[02:33] <rurufufuss> and around 23 gigs free
[02:33] <Mathnerd314> so, I'm trying to use redshift with my Proview PLW2230WDBi. The main thing I'd like is a brightness control. Apparently DDCcontrol has been abandoned for many years. Is there a replacement? There's something called /sys/class/backlight but I don't see anything there.
[02:33] <nezZario> nope prolly kilobytes
[02:33] <gman529> can you click inside of programs
[02:33] <nearst> rurufufuss, aw. chipset mobo ? or some kernel modules then
[02:33] <k1l> gman529: yes
[02:34] <tcstar> nearst -- thanks -- i'll take a look at those too..  installing Evolution right now
[02:34] <escott> rurufufuss, you installed additional ram and your machine got slower?
[02:34] <rurufufuss> nearst: hmm, it's an asrock h77, if that makes a difference. I might try removing the two new rams and see if this helps with anything
[02:34] <gman529> k1l, I can't actually interact with programs with my mouse
[02:34] <rurufufuss> escott: well, now that I think about it, yeah
[02:34] <gman529> at all
[02:34] <escott> rurufufuss, if that is the case can you run "dmesg | head -n 200" and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <gman529> except highlight
[02:34] <rurufufuss> escott: doing that now
[02:35] <k1l> gman529: ahh. ok. i missread that you only couldnt click on the desktop (wallpaper)
[02:35] <rurufufuss> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560432/
[02:35] <escott> k1l, yeah i read it the same way at first
[02:36] <gman529> k1l: I'm going to try and set it back to the generic driver in the xorg.conf
[02:36] <gman529> I really hate compiz and unity
[02:36] <gman529> if the make it so difficult to work with
[02:36] <escott> rurufufuss, looks like you may have an MTRR issue
[02:37] <gman529> for example my desktop just locked and I can't click on the unlock button
[02:37] <rurufufuss> escott: is that something solvable by googling, or do I need new hardware :(
[02:37] <nearst> MTRR default type: uncachable
[02:38] <rurufufuss> so I have to go to bios and do stuff?
[02:38] <escott> rurufufuss, im not too familiar with them except that you can have issues with them. check beyond line 200 of dmesg to see if the kernel eventually finds a suitable way to program it, but usually the kernel won't struggle to find an MTRR program
[02:39] <escott> rurufufuss, you might also check for a bios update or ask in a channel like ##hardware
[02:39] <nearst> mtrr cleanup actually
[02:39] <rurufufuss> ah, hmm
[02:40] <escott> rurufufuss, also are you running 64bit? i cant tell from that dmesg
[02:40] <rurufufuss> escott: 32bit
[02:40] <escott> rurufufuss, it looks like you are running 32bit in which case i would suggest reinstalling a 64bit version
[02:41] <rurufufuss> escott: I have to use 32bit, this linux box is solely used to compiling simulated iphone apps on opengl :/
[02:41] <krkelly_> can someone help with openvpn on ubuntu?
[02:42] <escott> rurufufuss, and why can't you do that from 64bit?
[02:42] <nearst> maybe kernel reallocation.
[02:42] <rurufufuss> escott: well, I'll have to install the 32 bit libraries and stuff, seems like a lot more hassle
[02:43] <rurufufuss> I'm gonna try removing the two new rams first and see if that's truly the case though
[02:44] <nearst> how much ram slot u have atm :D
[02:44] <escott> he already left. i was going to ask him the same
[02:44] <escott> oh well
[02:45] <gman529> where is ubuntu's xorg.conf
[02:45] <nearst> ive dont another spare for ram putting ram now. hehe
[02:45] <cfhowlett> gman529, in terminal:  locate xorg.conf
[02:45] <escott> gman529, it wont have one by default
[02:45] <gman529> the one in /etc/X11/ doesn't have anything
[02:45] <gman529> i did the locate xorg.conf
[02:46] <nearst> new amd driver 13.1 not yet being support on xorg 1.13?
[02:48] <DJHenjin_> iknonia, its Hunterdouglas here from earlier, you around?
[02:50] <rurufufuss> hmm, after removing one of the rams, and starting up, I quickly tried to copy a file and it was faster, though still slow
[02:50] <escott> rurufufuss, what are your stick sizes and what slots are they in
[02:50] <rurufufuss> now the ram's in slot #1 and #3, but now copying 2 gigs to the memory  is going at 6.50 M/s
[02:50] <escott> rurufufuss, and what version of DDR is this
[02:51] <rurufufuss> DDR3, 8GB stick, at slots #1 and #3 now
[02:51] <rurufufuss> it was slots #1, #2 and #3 (out of 4 possible slots before)
[02:51] <escott> rurufufuss, and before it was?
[02:51] <nearst> same model? or mix from any different freq?
[02:51] <DJHenjin_> hmm, for some reason when i do service vsftpd restart  it tells me unknown process then apf start running
[02:51] <rurufufuss> before it was at 1.31M/s
[02:52] <rurufufuss> escott: I'm gonna try go back to the 1 stick of ram, and see how it goes
[02:52] <escott> rurufufuss, i cant remember all the DDR slot matching rules, but having 3/4 slots full is decidedly odd
[02:52] <rurufufuss> escott: well, the 4th one was dead on arrival, and I'm gonna return it today
[02:52] <rurufufuss> just got it yesterday
[02:53] <escott> rurufufuss, 6.5MB/s is along the lines of DDR3-800
[02:53] <rurufufuss> ok, looks like copying 2 gigs of things is stuck at 6.5ghz
[02:53] <rurufufuss> 6.5mb/s sorry
[02:53] <rurufufuss> actually shouldn't ram be way faster than that?
[02:53] <escott> rurufufuss, sorry misreading the table
[02:53] <escott> rurufufuss, off by a factor of 100
[02:53] <escott> :)
[02:54] <rurufufuss> yeah, it's pretty slow aye
[02:54] <rurufufuss> well, I'mm gonna try again and see
[02:54] <escott> rurufufuss, i would worry that you did something that makes these unmatched in a way that is causing problems for theOS
[02:55] <DJHenjin_> for some reason VSFTPD is not running, i am not seeing any errors when i run service vsftpd start  but it refuses to run
[02:55] <nearst> try with default setting in bios and run in single mode
[02:56] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: checked its logfile?
[02:56] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch:  not entirely sure where to look, /var/log/vsftpd.log ?
[02:57] <tcstar> just found out my issue with my email is that my server (or something) is blocking me on port 25 (as i can't telnet to it)
[02:57] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: probably i dont have that installed
[02:57] <szx> why does ubuntu not remember mouse pointer speed in settings?
[02:57] <DJHenjin_> isnt there, hmm
[02:58] <rurufufuss> yeah, it was definitely the extra ram
[02:58] <rurufufuss> :(
[02:58] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: you run that service thing using sudo?
[02:58] <escott> rurufufuss, you've done something to break the matching of the ram
[02:58] <rurufufuss> escott: it's the same ram though, I think
[02:59] <escott> rurufufuss, its always just easier to buy matched products and use them matched
[02:59] <nearst> maybe ram freq u install
[02:59] <leptone> hello trying to set up rotate cube on 12.04. each time i press Ctrl+Alt+Down my system crashes and i have to reboot. whats going on?
[02:59] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch:  yes i did run it as sudo
[02:59] <rurufufuss> nearst: is that a command?
[02:59] <nearst> rurufufuss, eh.. no.. im mean your ram Mhz installed
[03:00] <rurufufuss> escott: I bought multiple 8196MB ram x 1, they're the same thing, so should theoretically work right?
[03:00] <rurufufuss> or could it be because they're meant to be used single? (when it says x1)
[03:00] <rurufufuss> ok, looks like off to ##hardware it is
[03:01] <escott> rurufufuss, check the serial number
[03:01] <escott> rurufufuss, there is also a command to dump all the info from the RAM
[03:01] <escott> rurufufuss, dmidecode
[03:02] <rurufufuss> escott: the receipt says they're all the same, and when I think about it, ramdrive performance (after my code is copied to the ram) was pretty fast
[03:02] <rurufufuss> is there a ram speed test for ubuntu?
[03:02] <escott> rurufufuss, you could run memtest
[03:02] <escott> rurufufuss, what were you doing when performance was slow?
[03:03] <rurufufuss> nothing, I removed the ram and it's fast
[03:03] <nearst> usually dmidecode
[03:03] <KromiX> just do memtest86+ :P
[03:03] <rurufufuss> by fast, I mean the speed of cp operation
[03:03] <rurufufuss> hmm, command not found
[03:03] <nearst> ya. memtest is worth a shot
[03:03] <rurufufuss> memtest or memtest86+
[03:03] <nearst> memtest at grub?
[03:04] <rurufufuss> at grub? hmm
[03:05] <nearst> memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[03:05] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch: no logs being generated, no errors, just fails to keep running
[03:06] <rurufufuss> ok brb then
[03:06] <DJHenjin_> ps aux | grep vsftpd shows me a pid of 21736 but on the far right vsftpd is in red, and if i try kill -9 21736 it tells me there is no such process
[03:06] <daviker> wow .. i havent used IRC for years
[03:07] <escott> DJHenjin_, is it a zombie process?
[03:07] <DJHenjin_> escott, how do i tell?
[03:07] <usr13> daviker: Why? :)
[03:07] <keithclark> is there a colour ansi terminal emulator out there for ubuntu?
[03:07] <escott> DJHenjin_, or are you seeing your "grep" process when you grep
[03:07] <daviker> this is too much like reading log files at work... bye
[03:08] <nearst> colour ansi?
[03:08] <rurufufuss> hmm, can't find any memtest on grub :(
[03:08] <keapon> Greets All
[03:08] <leptone> can domeone please help me get my rotate cube working. the computer crashes each time i press Ctrl+Alt+down. and i cant seem to find an article that addresses this.
[03:09] <keithclark> nearst, yes, like to access BBS systems
[03:09] <nearst> leptone, u using nvidia or amd?
[03:09] <COLORS> Hello
[03:10] <DJHenjin_> top does not show vsftpd running
[03:10] <COLORS> I'm back :P Anyone need help?
[03:10] <nearst> keithclark, http://techtinkering.com/2010/02/14/getting-colour-ansi-emulation-to-work-properly-when-connecting-to-a-bbs-with-telnet-under-linux/
[03:10] <escott> DJHenjin_, why dont you just paste this grep line
[03:10] <leptone> nearst, nvidia
[03:10] <azizLIGHTS> if i put a dir into the trash, where does it go in the filesystem? i cant permantly delte the dir in the trash because i dont have permissions or something. i want to remove the file from the cli now using sudo. where is trash stored?
[03:10] <keapon> I'm trying to record video from my webcam but audio from a bluetooth headset...VLC doesn't seem to work right on the audio
[03:11] <COLORS> azizLIGHTS., undelete the dir, now use sudo rm on it
[03:11] <escott> azizLIGHTS, its in the users trash folder which is usually ~/.trash
[03:11] <DJHenjin_> root     22743  0.0  0.0   8584   912 pts/0    S+   22:11   0:00 grep --color=auto vsftpd
[03:11] <azizLIGHTS> ok, will try both
[03:11] <COLORS> You can also use ~./trash
[03:11] <azizLIGHTS> thanks
[03:11] <COLORS> Ok
[03:11] <DJHenjin_> ./\ is the result of ps aux | grep vsftpd
[03:11] <leptone> COLORS, yes i need help getting my rotate cube to work. after enabling cube Ctrl+alt+down crashes my system and i have to hard reboot.
[03:12] <escott> DJHenjin_, thats the grep process. when you ps aux | grep, both are started simultaneously. when ps gets the process list it includes the grep process
[03:12] <COLORS> Leptone that would be a Compiz thing- have you been changeing stuff in CCSM?
[03:12] <nearst> leptone, there is a lot of crashing compiz related out there. best way is go to other de
[03:12] <DJHenjin_> escott:  as i have said before vsftpd is not running
[03:13] <leptone> nearst, other de?
[03:13] <keithclark> nearst, that seems to fit the bill, thanks!
[03:13] <escott> DJHenjin_, you said "ps aux | grep vsftpd shows me a pid of 21736 but on the far right vsftpd is in red, and if i try kill -9 21736 it tells me there is no such process" which if you understood what you were seeing you would not have asked aobut
[03:13] <leptone> COLORS, well just the settings that articles videos say to change to get the cube working...
[03:13] <COLORS> I have never used Compiz as I do not like it :( IT can be quite finnicky
[03:13] <COLORS> Hmmmm...
[03:13] <COLORS> leptone I would file a bug ticket
[03:13] <nearst> leptone, desktop environment like lxde or xface4 . there is package/driver related still pending thoo
[03:14] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: did you change anything?
[03:14] <DJHenjin_> escott:  20 minutes ago i said service vsftpd restart tells me that the service is not running already
[03:14] <COLORS> leptone: If it seems to be an error kind of thing- do Ctrl+Alt+T and run "ubuntu-bug compiz"
[03:14] <azizLIGHTS> i restored the dir from trash, and now sudo rm ing. thanks
[03:14] <leptone> nearst, so which desktop environment am i currently using?
[03:15] <COLORS> Cool azizlights glad I could help you
[03:15] <azizLIGHTS> COLORS: thank you :)
[03:15] <COLORS> :P
[03:15] <nearst> leptone, im guess unity if u install default one.
[03:15] <DJHenjin_> this is the only thing i did to vsftpd sudo sed -i 's/chroot_local_user=YES/chroot_local_user=NO/g' /etc/vsftpd.conf
[03:15] <DJHenjin_> sudo service vsftpd restart
[03:15] <COLORS> Yes, it could also be Unity
[03:15] <leptone> COLORS, sry "do" Crtl+alr+down and "run" ubuntu-bug compiz. sry i dont follow once i do Ctrl+alt+down my system will be unusable
[03:15] <mgolisch> DJHenjin_: does your config have listen=YES ? the upstart job will just exit if it doenst have
[03:16] <nearst> ctrl + alt + t
[03:16] <leptone> nearst, ok thats what i thought. i'd like to use unity tho. not an option?
[03:16] <COLORS> No Leptone, do Ctrl+Alt+T and ubuntu-bug compiz, not Ctrl+Alt+Down
[03:16] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch:  yes it has listen=YES right at the top
[03:16] <SunMoonStar> I have a problem -- I tried to install a package (sudo apt-get install nodejs) and it didn't work right, and my file system went into read-only mode. Based on advice on an askubuntu.com answer, I ran "sudo fsck -Af" at which point my screen went blank.  I did a bit of research and decided to try boot-repair. I booted off of USB stick and did Try Ubuntu
[03:16] <leptone> COLORS, sry. got it.
[03:17] <COLORS> letone No problem. I do that kind of mistake all the time. :P
[03:18] <santosh> When I see a spanish layout it shows 4 characters on a key, how do I press keys that are on right side?
[03:19] <leptone> COLORS, it askes my if the issue i am reporting is "related to unity itself rather than compiz" ?
[03:19] <SunMoonStar> ayayay
[03:19] <COLORS> leptone: Select Unity instead of Compiz
[03:20] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch: going to try http://askubuntu.com/questions/128180/vsftpd-stopped-working-after-update
[03:21] <leptone> COLORS, it askes "is the issue reported purley graphical" It is isnt it?
[03:21] <COLORS> leptone: No it is not, it is a crash error
[03:22] <captine> Hi all.  My 12.04.2 locks  up from time to time.  I am thinking of trying a newer kernel from the kernel ppa, but believe this is not officially supported.  i have a question regarding what is in the "extra" kernel package?  is this the right place to ask?
[03:23] <leptone> COLORS, my browser opened to lauchpad login page...
[03:23] <leptone> COLORS, do i need to register?
[03:23] <COLORS> leptone: Yes, you will need to login or register to LP
[03:23] <DrDoom> Greetings. Exist the possibility of my computer talk to me? Like Jarvis.. Not exactely the same.
[03:27] <escott> !tts
[03:27] <escott> DrDoom, there are a number of text to speech applications
[03:27] <escott> DrDoom, can't remember what any are called at the moment. there is an accessibility channel
[03:28] <genii-around> !info espeak
[03:29] <DJHenjin_> mgolisch: now i can connect to the server, but i get libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work, which is the issue that made me want to stay away from 12.04 in the first place
[03:30] <nearst> back
[03:30] <COLORS> Welcome back nearst
[03:30] <DrDoom> escott: I really would like that my computer talk with me. When I write something and "he" answer or search and all talking. I see one in this link: http://www.howtoadvice.com/UbuntuTalk but is only to trivial things..
[03:31] <COLORS> DrDoom you mean like a CleverBot type of thing?
[03:31] <DrDoom> Not to much!!
[03:31] <nearst> DrDoom, simsimi ? :D
[03:32] <DJHenjin_> trying to install ia32-libs apparently that fixed the pthread_cancel error in a teamspeak server, maybe it will work in vsftpd too
[03:32] <DrDoom> COLORS: CleverBot? I like Jarvis... Ironman.
[03:32] <DrDoom> nearst: simsimi is a software?
[03:32] <normanclegg> I want a computer to talk and communicate with me like the one the badguy used in the movie "Bait"
[03:32] <COLORS> DrDoom I believe you can use Jervis on Ubuntu
[03:33] <nearst> DrDoom, ya. its popular now at android.
[03:33] <DrDoom> nearst: I will see it..Thanks.
[03:34] <DrDoom> COLORS: Jervis is a software?
[03:34] <COLORS> DrDoom http://madlag.github.com/jarvis/
[03:34] <leptone> COLORS, timeout error. satart from begening?
[03:34] <nearst> jarvis
[03:34] <COLORS> !info jarvis
[03:34] <COLORS> :(
[03:34] <COLORS> No  info
[03:35] <DJHenjin_> install libpam-ldap problem solved
[03:35] <DrDoom> !info jervis
[03:35] <DrDoom> Jervis too...
[03:35] <normanclegg> Jarvis
[03:35] <DrDoom> wait.
[03:35] <DrDoom> !info Jervis
[03:35] <Folorn> good evening everyone
[03:35] <COLORS> leptone: No, just refresh
[03:35] <DrDoom> Too bad.
[03:36] <COLORS> leptone: LP is being crazy lately
[03:36] <nearst> yaa COLORS , agree that
[03:37] <COLORS> nearst: Lots of 405's and 503's
[03:37] <DrDoom> nearst: It is just foe Android..
[03:37] <normanclegg> DrDoom  you mean something like this ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/63743/voice-control-over-desktop-enviornment
[03:37] <DrDoom> **for
[03:38] <DrDoom> normanclegg: Voice control is appropriate. I will see.
[03:38] <nearst> Assistive Technology & Accessibility?
[03:38] <leptone> COLORS, not working still getting the timeout error
[03:39] <COLORS> Grrrr hate these timouts
[03:39] <COLORS> leptone: Keep refreshing :< Sorry, it's just that LP is having server problems
[03:40] <NathanWW> what varient of ubuntu runs on older slow systems IE p3 600mhz laptop with 385 ram :-D
[03:40] <normanclegg> DrDoom  with KDE, there is Simon - Simon is a speech recognition program that can replace the mouse and keyboard.
[03:40] <genii-around> NathanWW: xubuntu, lubuntu
[03:41] <NathanWW> wich is best bet tho
[03:41] <NathanWW> or whats the dif between xu or lu?
[03:41] <nearst> xu is xfce and lu is lxde
[03:41] <escott> NathanWW, XFCE vs LXDE
[03:41] <normanclegg> NathanWW  you'd want a linux that uses lxde or openbox imho
[03:42] <axisys> #juju is the quietest channel .. anyone know a fix for this?
[03:42] <axisys> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560539/
[03:42] <NathanWW> i wanted debian as i know it but the latest stable release no longer supports this hardware mainly the intel 82830 graphics chipset
[03:42] <nearst> my pc now with mini.iso install then install lubuntu-core
[03:42] <DrDoom> normanclegg: I am using KDE.. The another is for gnome.
[03:42] <ikillcypher> hello guys Im having trouble writing a x64 Ubuntu into my USB Disk
[03:43] <ikillcypher> it does seems recogized at boot
[03:43] <normanclegg> DrDoom  does Simon work well in KDE ?
[03:43] <NathanWW> thanks guys
[03:43] <DrDoom> normanclegg: I do not know. I want test it and see.
[03:46] <normanclegg> DrDoom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux  and of course Chrome and Opera browsers both have voice command ability
[03:46] <leptone> COLORS, doesnt appear to be changing... no attempt at a a solution?
[03:46] <WBF> COLORS, your back :D
[03:47] <axisys> export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" fixed it
[03:47] <COLORS> leptone: Hmmmm... I can't do anything :(
[03:47] <COLORS> WBF: Thanks :P
[03:47] <nearst> ouh. locale issue?
[03:47] <DJHenjin_> this channel is too spammy, going to leave unless i need some more help, thanks guys for all the help thogh
[03:48] <sudopinion> hi everyone
[03:48] <nearst> hi sudopinion
[03:48] <COLORS> Hi sudopinion :D
[03:49] <SunMoonStar> (03:48:23 AM) SunMoonStar: Hey guys. I am on the usb live stick now. fdisk -l still shows no output but df -H shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560556/ My Linux partition is not there! It should be another 500 gb partition. dev/sda2 is my windows partition and dev/sdc1 is my backup drive. and wtf is /cow?? Is all my stuff gone!?
[03:49] <sudopinion> i'm running mint 11 and want to upgrade to 14.   Can i upgrade with the iso, or can i somehow zip up my profile so I can retain my preferences and settings for after a reinstall?
[03:49] <SunMoonStar> Sorry, copy pasting from ##linux but I am in a serious shit here :O!
[03:49] <SunMoonStar> can someone help?
[03:51] <COLORS> sudopinion This channel is for Ubuntu, sorry :( You will need to use the Linux Mint help channel, sorry
[03:51] <nearst> sudopinion, try check do-release-upgrade
[03:52] <SunMoonStar> If anyone can help with my issue please do tell me
[03:53] <SunMoonStar> I am just waiting around I think my partition is gone
[03:54] <mgolisch> SunMoonStar: try sudo fdisk -l
[03:54] <escott> SunMoonStar, only mounted partitions show up in df
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !mint|SunMoonStar,
[03:54] <mgolisch> SunMoonStar: it will not show anything if your not root
[03:54] <escott> mgolisch, SunMoonStar don't use fdisk. use parted
[03:54] <nearst> :)
[03:54] <normanclegg> SunMoonStar  what happened to cause the problem to begin with ?
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> normanclegg: I don't know I tried to install nodejs with apt-get install and my partition went into read-only mode. I tried fsck -Al or whatever the command was and it went blank. I restarted the computer and got <grub rescue> prompt and that's it.
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> I am on livecd now
[03:55] <mgolisch> SunMoonStar: is this a wubi install? or is this a real ubuntu install?
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> I want to back up my linux parition
[03:55] <SunMoonStar> mgolisch: real
[03:55] <normanclegg> SunMoonStar  yeah, look at it with parted like escott said
[03:56] <SunMoonStar> ok but what do i do after i open parted
[03:56] <SunMoonStar> I want to A) back up my linux partition and B) restore it .. people told me my hard drive is failing
[03:56] <usr13> SunMoonStar: You may have Hard Drive problems.  Run fsck from liveCD.
[03:57] <escott> SunMoonStar, if you are using parted interactively the command is "p" i believe. but i was suggesting "sudo parted -l"
[03:57] <usr13> SunMoonStar: http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[03:58] <usr13> ... and  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[03:59] <SunMoonStar> Can someone walk me through this?
[03:59] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Backup?
[03:59] <SunMoonStar> yes, I think I need to mount my linux partition
[03:59] <SunMoonStar> and back it up
[04:00] <usr13> SunMoonStar: http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[04:00] <SunMoonStar> usr13: thanks but I have to mount the partition first
[04:00] <normanclegg> rsync would not seem to be the choice for a one time partition backup
[04:00] <SunMoonStar> ok im all ears
[04:00] <usr13> SunMoonStar: mkdir sda2/ ; sudo mount /dev/sda2 sda2/
[04:01] <SunMoonStar> how do you know I need sda2
[04:01] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Or, as normanclegg suggests, you can back up the whole partition.
[04:01] <usr13> SunMoonStar: ... was just an example.... I DON'T know.
[04:01] <SunMoonStar> well, if I can backup my home folder that would be sufficient
[04:02] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Exactly
[04:02] <SunMoonStar> alright
[04:02] <SunMoonStar> let me try this sigh
[04:02] <tk_> :)
[04:03] <DrDoom> If I would use Jarvis, I'll have too program everything in text mode.. It is fascinating. Maybe is only for mac... I am not sure about that.
[04:03] <normanclegg> SunMoonStar  systemrescuecd and clonezilla would both have the tools you need. Both are easy to use
[04:03] <usr13> SunMoonStar: rsync -avhe ssh --delete /sda2/home/SunMoonStar/ user@remote.host.com:dir/  #See:  http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[04:04] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Or if you have a thumb drive big enough just use that.
[04:04] <SunMoonStar> I tried sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/tmp and it said "you must specify the filesystem type"
[04:04] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fdisk -l   #See what you have.
[04:05] <SunMoonStar> /dev/sda4       931620864<PHONE_NUMBER>   505952256   83  Linux
[04:05] <nearst> fsck it then. :D
[04:05] <usr13> SunMoonStar: May be too late.
[04:05] <SunMoonStar> why?
[04:05] <SunMoonStar> is there something ominous in what I just pasted?
[04:06] <SunMoonStar> what's the type?
[04:06] <usr13> SunMoonStar: But, as I said before, run fsck on it.  sudo fsck -y /dev/sda4
[04:06] <SunMoonStar> usr13: ok but I shouldn't try to back it up first?
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> I'm not going to be able to mount it? it is asking for a type
[04:07] <usr13> SunMoonStar: If you can't read it, you can't back it up.  Fix it first.
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> someone else told me to try mount --t fstype /dev...... but it said fstype is unknown
[04:07] <usr13> SunMoonStar: ... you don't have a choice ...
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> oh
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> well f*ck
[04:07] <SunMoonStar> :\
[04:08] <nearst> i believe current kernel able to handle the fstype mount
[04:08] <usr13> SunMoonStar:  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[04:08] <SunMoonStar> why are you telling me about linux mint
[04:08] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Because you are on the wrong channel.
[04:08] <lb27> SunMoonStar: haven't you heard?
[04:09] <SunMoonStar> this is an ubuntu install and I'm in the ubuntu channel
[04:09] <SunMoonStar> how am I in the wrong channel?
[04:09] <nearst> lsb_release -a
[04:09] <usr13> SunMoonStar: I thought you said it was mint.  Sorry.
[04:11] <cfhowlett> you DID say you were on mint
[04:11] <SunMoonStar> wha?
[04:11] <SunMoonStar> no i didn't but I kept getting people telling me to go to mint
[04:11] <tk_> mint is gross
[04:11] <usr13> SunMoonStar: What does  lsb_release -i  say?
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> mount -t fstype /dev/sda4 /mnt/tmp   -- gives me "fstype unknown"...
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> err
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[04:12] <cfhowlett> and I quote:   i'm running mint 11 and want to upgrade to 14.   Can i upgrade with the iso, or can i somehow zip up my profile so I can retain my preferences and settings for after a reinstall?
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> I'm not retarded
[04:12] <SunMoonStar> I know what os I'm on
[04:12] <FloodBot1> SunMoonStar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <ryebread761> I got a question: Does a user need to be an Administrator to activate additional drivers?
[04:12] <usr13> SunMoonStar: omit fstype
[04:12] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, by default, yes
[04:12] <jm_> 214950 < sudopinion> i'm running mint 11 and want to upgrade to 14.   Can i upgrade with the iso, or can i somehow zip up my profile so I can retain my preferences and settings for  after a reinstall?
[04:12] <nearst> SunMoonStar, is a guy who need assist about backup this partitions. the mint guy is sudoopinion
[04:12] <escott> !mint | jm_
[04:13] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Omit -t fstype
[04:13] <ryebread761> Is tehre a way to change that (Very preferably from the command line)?
[04:13] <SunMoonStar> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:13] <nearst> ryebread761, change what?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> jm_, you are absolutely correct.  I misunderestimateconstrued ... eh, my bad.
[04:14] <usr13> ryebread761: Yes, you need to be admin.   jockey-gtk
[04:14] <ryebread761> jockey-gtk?
[04:14] <roxkYu_> hello..
[04:14] <ryebread761> hi
[04:14] <cfhowlett> roxkYu_, greetings
[04:14] <usr13> ryebread761: You have to switch to a user that has admin rights.
[04:15] <nearst> ryebread761, sudo jockey-gtk
[04:15] <roxkYu_> anyone here knows which channel i can go to , for subject on wake-on LAN?
[04:15] <SunMoonStar> usr13: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:15] <cfhowlett> roxkYu_, start here with details
[04:16] <nearst> roxkYu_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[04:16] <usr13> SunMoonStar: After command ___________________ ?
[04:16] <SunMoonStar> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/tmp
[04:16] <SunMoonStar> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:16] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fsck -y /dev/sda4
[04:16] <nearst> im not sure im missing gnome-display-properties.
[04:17] <usr13> SunMoonStar: What version of Ubuntu are you on?    lsb_release -a
[04:17] <SunMoonStar> im on the live cd
[04:17] <SunMoonStar> of ubuntu 12.10
[04:17] <SunMoonStar> the partition in question was ubuntu 12.10 also
[04:18] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Ok
[04:19] <ryebread761>  Hmm.. I made this account an admin, logged out, logged back in and still don't see my wireless and graphics drivers in the additional drivers section
[04:19] <ryebread761> they were there in the live DVD
[04:19] <ryebread761> any ideas?
[04:19] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, you need to be on a wired connection ...
[04:20] <roxkYu_> cfhowlett,nearst: Thanks.
[04:20] <nearst> SunMoonStar, try chroot and fsck your partitions
[04:20] <ryebread761> To get the additional drivers? So I need internet to get internet? Uh oh...
[04:20] <usr13> SunMoonStar: What filesystem is on /dev/sda4 ?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, what driver are you after?
[04:21] <roxkYu_> i am trying to use WOL over the internet..  (i have a rought idea of how it works)
[04:21] <ryebread761> The broadcomm wireless one
[04:21] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, what version of ubuntu and what hardware?
[04:21] <roxkYu_> but i am wondering why it need a port number for WOL when sending the magic packet?
[04:21] <nearst> roxkYu_, most wol setting on bios now :D
[04:21] <pringlescan> I have python-software-properties installed… and I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling it but add-apt-repository is missing from /usr/bin even though that's where apt-file says it should be… I'm on a fresh install of 12.10, any ideas?
[04:21] <escott> roxkYu_, over the internet?
[04:21] <ryebread761> Ubuntu 12.10, Hardware is a MacbookPro 7,1
[04:22] <escott> roxkYu_, usually only works within the subet
[04:22] <escott> subnet
[04:22] <roxkYu_> escott : yes over the internet.
[04:22] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fdisk -l |grep sda4
[04:22] <roxkYu_> it can be done from the information i googled out.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, hmm.  ok this might be exact but ... the files you need are actually on the ISO and can be extracted and deployed with a few terminal commands.  I think.  Never done it on a mac
[04:23] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, see  this tutorial the STA No Internet Access section
[04:23] <cfhowlett> http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[04:23] <SunMoonStar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560604/
[04:24] <escott> roxkYu_, most i have heard of require the frame to come from the subnet
[04:24] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, I skipped the "patch" install command and used the other 3.  wifi came right up.
[04:24] <escott> roxkYu_, you can get around that by causing your router to emit the packet
[04:24] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, but, again, never done this with a mac
[04:24] <roxkYu_> ok
[04:24] <usr13> SunMoonStar: sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda4
[04:25] <usr13> SunMoonStar: If it is ext4  ....
[04:25] <ryebread761> I don't think it's any different, but could be wrong
[04:25] <roxkYu_> let me try it again..
[04:25] <usr13> SunMoonStar: But fsck  should work.
[04:25] <roxkYu_> bye
[04:25] <ryebread761> But if I have an internet connection, will the drivers pull themselves in?
[04:25] <pringlescan> I can't use add-apt-repository, apt think's python-software-properties is installed but it's not, my default python interpreter is 2.7
[04:25] <usr13> SunMoonStar: If it is not terribly trashed, it will detect the filesystem.  If it is trashed beyone recognition, well it's over.
[04:26] <escott> SunMoonStar, another thing you can try is to tell fsck to try the backup superblock
[04:26] <cfhowlett> ryebread761, yep
[04:26] <usr13> *beyond*
[04:27] <ryebread761> Hmm, well maybe I could take the adapter on this computer (Ubuntu recognizes these drivers by default), put t in the Mac, get the driver, and put the adapter abck in this computer
[04:28] <ryebread761> I'll give it a try, hopefully back with good results, bye for now
[04:29] <usr13> SunMoonStar: As escott suggests, read the -b superblock section of the man file.
[04:29] <rootpt> ?? ati
[04:30] <rootpt> !ati
[04:30] <usr13> SunMoonStar: Read the -b superblock section of the man file.    man e2fsck
[04:31] <rootpt> !radeon
[04:31] <escott> rootpt, is there something we can help you with?
[04:32] <usr13> SunMoonStar:  sudo e2fsck /dev/sda4   #See what that does
[04:32] <PadNet_201> have a cmake problem, FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in ~/share/apps, what do i do now
[04:33] <rootpt> escott:  a frind of mine can not install the correct grafic drivers
[04:33] <SunMoonStar> usr13: it's doing the fsck now
[04:33] <rootpt> ati radeon mobility 4570 hd
[04:33] <SunMoonStar> taking a while
[04:33] <escott> rootpt, its ok to admit you are having a problem with linux. you dont have to make up a friend. there is no shaming here :)
[04:34] <escott> rootpt, a lot of laptops have switchable graphics these days
[04:34] <nearst> amdlegacy work well on precise. :(
[04:34] <rootpt> escott: my frind is here
[04:34] <rootpt> SonOfGod:
[04:34] <SonOfGod> yes
[04:34] <rootpt> talk do escott
[04:34] <escott> rootpt, that can cause some issues. check into vga-switheroo
[04:34] <rootpt> to*
[04:34] <nearst> ya.. vga-switheroo. gudluck. :)
[04:34] <SonOfGod> escott  iḿ realy new in ubuntu
[04:35] <SonOfGod> :|
[04:35] <jm_> switcheroo
[04:35] <rootpt> SonOfGod: i've got to go, he will help u
[04:36] <escott> SonOfGod, hybrid/switchable graphics are not something you want to get into your first time out. its still very rough around the edges
[04:36] <usr13> rootpt: Did your friend try   sudo jockey-gtk   ?
[04:36] <SonOfGod> i do beelive
[04:36] <nearst> hopefully raring making big improvement on that
[04:36] <usr13> SonOfGod: sudo jockey-gtk
[04:37] <SonOfGod> usr13  not found
[04:37] <escott> its no longer jockey
[04:37] <usr13> O
[04:37] <escott> SonOfGod, its now in software-settings
[04:37] <rekha> is there a way to install ubuntu on a laptop with a broken screen, perhaps using another computer and ssh or vnc?
[04:38] <escott> usr13, jockey got ditched entirely
[04:38] <usr13> escott: Ok thanks info
[04:39] <SonOfGod> i did use this sudo lshw -C video
[04:39] <usr13> rekha: Don't think so.
[04:39] <kantlivelong> anyone have Core3D working for 3.5 kernel?
[04:39] <kantlivelong> from creative
[04:40] <usr13> SonOfGod:  So, what display adapter(s) do you have?
[04:40] <SonOfGod> ati radeon hd 4570 512mb
[04:40] <SonOfGod> mobility
[04:41] <SonOfGod> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]
[04:41] <usr13> SonOfGod: lsmod |grep adeon
[04:42] <SonOfGod> usr13  radeon                895730  3
[04:42] <SonOfGod> ttm                    83596  1 radeon
[04:42] <SonOfGod> drm_kms_helper         49113  1 radeon
[04:42] <SonOfGod> drm                   288721  5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
[04:42] <SonOfGod> i2c_algo_bit           13414  1 radeon
[04:42] <FloodBot1> SonOfGod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <usr13> SonOfGod: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93941/ubuntu-11-10-and-mobility-radeon-hd-4570-512mb-cant-find-working-drivers
[04:43] <nearst> SonOfGod, if ure on precise. jockey will work. if quantal. xorg is not yet support. radeon vesa would help then amdlegacy bin
[04:43] <usr13> ... must go now ... Good night all.
[05:01] <justin`> hello
[05:03] <nearst> hi
[05:07] <aetaric_> Trying to install 12.10 on a MacBookPro4,1. The mac ISO refuses to even show GRUB and the normal ISO won't get far past it.
[05:07] <aetaric_> any ideas?
[05:08] <nearst> ure trying clean install? dual boot or on vm?
[05:08] <aetaric_> i want to wipe it clean
[05:09] <iagv> hola
[05:10] <MoPac> I'm hoping to find anyone who has had success using GVFS to mount an FTP connection or SMB share as a normal directory.  Mine shows up witha  file explorer in /usr/share...GVFS, but not under /home../.gvfs, and other applications can't find it
[05:10] <MoPac> I want to back up to this space, so that's a problem...
[05:10] <myersg> ok, I figured someone here could help me, I am trying to install eclipse on ubuntu. but  does eclipse have a GUI creator like Visual Studios? or an add-on?
[05:11] <myersg> would this be it? http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-modeling-tools/junosr1
[05:11] <zebaszp> aetaric_, I'd advise you not wipe it clean, some functionality in Ubuntu actually use OS X drivers (kexts) in order to work properly
[05:11] <nearst> sudo apt-cache search eclipse?
[05:11] <aetaric_> zebaszp, i have the kexts backed up
[05:12] <zebaszp> I think the tools still search for the kexts only in their original path, but I'm not certain
[05:13] <aetaric_> in the past the only one i needed was the isight driver
[05:14] <zebaszp> aertaric_ did you check the isos with MD5? maybe that's the problem
[05:14] <myersg> does the eclipse project have a IRC? if so can someone point me to them
[05:14] <aetaric_> grabbed them via torrent and verrified them, with the MD5's
[05:15] <nearst> myersg, http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC
[05:15] <myersg> thanks
[05:17] <zebaszp> aetaric_, I'm sorry but I can't really help much, other than pointing you to the wiki (just in case you haven't read it): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Single-Boot:_Ubuntu_Only
[05:19] <echinos> I have an ASUS UEFI motherboard, AMD bulldozer CPU. When I overclock it at all, ubuntu reboots shortly after the grub menu
[05:19] <echinos> go back to default, boots fine.
[05:20] <echinos> it's got a liquid cooler on the CPU, so it's not overheating
[05:20] <killer> i installed ubuntu on usb and now i want to do installations with it ,so i installed ubiquity on it ,but installer crashes when installer tries to aceess webcam ,what should i do ?
[05:21] <nearst> killer, try disable webcam and process with ubiquity
[05:32] <george_> I removed startup applications from the Software center, but now I can't log back into the machine. I'm prompted for password and when I enter it, i get disconnected and prompted for my password again
[05:32] <george_> any help pleeeease
[05:33] <dr_willis> george_:  what was the exact package name? you could try logging in at the console and reinstall the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[05:33] <dr_willis> console = alt-crtl-f1 thrugh f6... use f7 to getback to X/
[05:35] <nearst> try to look what going on apt terminal. tail /var/log/apt/term.log
[05:37] <stercor> I'm on 12.10.  How do I get a command window on the desktop?
[05:37] <KromiX> terminal :)
[05:37] <dr_willis> stercor:  you mean a terminal?
[05:37] <Nach0z> stercor: go to your apps thingy and search for "terminal"
[05:37] <stercor> K
[05:37] <KRomeleoN> is libreoffice 4.0 still not available in sw center ??
[05:37] <dr_willis> run the  gnome-terminal app, or alt-ctrl-t
[05:37] <nearst> ctrl+alt+t in unity?
[05:37] <KromiX> http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-10/how-to-get-a-command-line-shell-or-terminal
[05:38] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/252612/how-do-i-install-libreoffice-4/252613#252613
[05:40] <stercor> There is no terminal in the dashboard?...that's the problem.  Ctrl-Alt-t works, though.  It'd be nice to have a terminal on the task bar.
[05:40] <dr_willis> you can add a terminal icon to the launcher. Or use one of the many pulldown terminal apps if you want quick access to one
[05:40] <dr_willis> so its not clear what you want. ;)
[05:40] <dr_willis> !info guake
[05:40] <boom0917>  software cant be authenticated is the message i got  in synaptic  when i marked gparted for install can anyone else see that
[05:44] <iKillCypher> hi guys im having issues here
[05:44] <iKillCypher> create ~/android/system/.repo/local_manifest.xml
[05:49] <jbates58> hi all. hoping someone can help me with some hardware im looking ate getting for m new server. i have a gigabyte GA-X58a-UD5 mobo (http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3450#ov) and i want to use 9 port multipliers/backplanes (CFI-B53PM 5 Port Backplane (SiI3726 Chipset)) just wondering if there is support in ubuntu for PM's on the sata chipsets on the mobo (there are 2, Intel ICH10R[6 PORTS], Marvel 9128 [2
[05:50] <nearst> run a live cd
[05:51] <jbates58> i havent purchased the hardware yet, kinda want to know if it will work before spending $700 on the multipliers thats all
[05:52] <iKillCypher> http://pastie.org/pastes/6325862/text?key=p9asfbxikfttvfhfxfkug :(
[05:53] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  ive never heard of the 'create' command.. what are you trying to do exactly?
[05:53] <iKillCypher> http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod10.1:How_to_build
[05:53] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  make an empty file?
[05:54] <killer> when i try to install ubuntu ..when webcam starts it exit with the message (setting camerabin to playing stopped)
[05:54] <killer> that is the installer fails
[05:54] <cara> hmm
[05:54] <iKillCypher> yeah
[05:55] <RUm> can anyone help me with GSoC??
[05:55] <lemonade`> iKillCypher: touch
[05:55] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  touch filename
[05:55] <iKillCypher> alright thanks
[05:55] <RUm> ??
[05:55] <dr_willis> iKillCypher:  or  echo "" > filename
[05:56] <dr_willis> No idea what a GSOC is rum..
[05:56] <dr_willis> apaently not many others know either
[05:56] <RUm> i no little but dont no how to get in
[05:59] <computerex> Hi. I need help installing acpi. Ubuntu says no candidate is available
[06:00] <dr_willis> apci is a feature of the kernel. not a package - as far as i know
[06:00] <dr_willis> unless you are talking about some differnt acpi
[06:02] <computerex> ah. I am running chrubuntu, ubuntu 12.04 for arm based chromebook
[06:02] <computerex> I am in fluxbox and I need a way to monitor the battery
[06:02] <computerex> the battery applet in gnome works fine
[06:03] <computerex> is there a way to get the applet in fluxbox?
[06:03] <xorox90__> Is there way to auto install package like a jvm or hadoop or something else on multiple server?, I'm tired of making shell script..
[06:03] <dr_willis> only the official ubuntu variants are normally supported here.. but you could use conky or other monitoring type tools in the repos to show battery stats
[06:03] <MK`> Is there a way to clear cached memory in Ubuntu? having some memory management issues
[06:03] <computerex> conky depends on acpi unfortunately
[06:03] <dr_willis> xorox90__:  i recall there being a multi-ssh commands befor that would apply the same command to all servers in a list
[06:03] <BluesKaj> acpi is available in the repos , computerex . make sure your repos are all enabled
[06:04] <xorox90__> dr_willis // thx!
[06:04] <dr_willis> wonders why acpi wouldent be installed by default.. but who can tell with ubuntu variants
[06:07] <nearst> precise is missing gnome-display-properties?
[06:08] <dr_willis> i thought it got renamed  by thge gnome devs..
[06:09] <dr_willis> gnome-control-center has a displays   icon here
[06:09] <nearst> oic. im use resolution-switcher atm
[06:18] <datruth> what can I use to capture my sound cound and stream to shoutcast?
[06:19] <DeliriumTremens> how would one start an application rather than bash when a user ssh's into a box?
[06:20] <DeliriumTremens> so they dont get a shell, they go directly into an application, when it closes the session closes
[06:20] <nearst> any binary should running on a shell
[06:22] <computerex> time_to_empty_avg - is the information provided in seconds?
[06:22] <DeliriumTremens> nearst: i feel a language barrier
[06:23] <dr_willis> id check the ssh docs DeliriumTremens  i think thats doable. but never done it.
[06:23] <DeliriumTremens> hrmm
[06:23] <DeliriumTremens> k
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: I enabled a full root login on a virtual machine to learn a bit of stuff; thing is it does not do tab-completion like normal, how do I enable this?
[06:24] <DeliriumTremens> well...it's actually telnet i want to use
[06:24] <stercor> I'm unable to apt-get common packages, synaptic, irssi, git, svn. The message is "E: Unable to locate package ...."
[06:24] <DeliriumTremens> but...yeah
[06:24] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  make sure its using bash as the shell not sh
[06:24] <DeliriumTremens> i figured they'd be close to the same
[06:24] <dr_willis> DeliriumTremens:  telnet is radically differnt.
[06:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah... good point, no?
[06:24] <dr_willis> you could set the users shell to be some app... but thats most likely not a good way to do it
[06:24] <NathanWW> i installed lubuntu the alt install version on a toughbook laptop, it boots up i see the lubuntu boot splash and then nothing cant ctrl + alt + f1 to get a terminal nothing power off and reboot back up and it does it again. since the installer finished and it rebooted... i think i may have issue with resolution set wrong perhaps, but how can i edit the boot loader so it does not load X so i
[06:24] <NathanWW> can go and check configs ect from terminal?
[06:25] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  echo $SHELL and see what the shell you are using is
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> this is determined by a dot file in ~ normally, right/
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ?
[06:25] <dr_willis> the chsh command changes the users default shell.
[06:25] <dr_willis> its defined as part of their settings in /etc/passwd i belive
[06:26] <nearst> yezza
[06:26] <dr_willis> last field in the users entry in /etc/passwd
[06:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh how fascinating~!
[06:31] <stercor> afk
[06:32] <ubuntuw1204> is it advised to upgrade from software manager, or download full iso of 12.10 and then perform upgrade by launching the installer?
[06:32] <dr_willis> either way can work ubuntuw1204
[06:33] <dr_willis> dont forget to make backups first.. just in case
[06:33] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: which is better?
[06:33] <dr_willis> i always do clean installs.. i rarely upgrade
[06:34] <nearst> time vs risk
[06:34] <dr_willis> and time vs time. ;)
[06:34] <dr_willis> i find it faster for a clean install then a upgrade
[06:34] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: why? and what about the already installed software?
[06:35] <dr_willis> why is evreyone so worried about allready installed stuff...
[06:35] <dr_willis> You reinstall it..
[06:35] <dr_willis> I know what i normally install.. so reinstalling it takes very little time
[06:36] <nearst> same. reinstall and making some partitions layout :D
[06:36] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: i keep a separate home directory for all my files can it be afected furing install or upgrade?
[06:36] <DeliriumTremens> dr_willis: i tried to change the users shell to an app and it wouldnt run
[06:36] <DeliriumTremens> said command not found
[06:36] <DeliriumTremens> on the flip side i can run it if i just telnet in
[06:36] <dr_willis> installing or upgradeing shuld not affect your /home/ partition.  just dont accidently format it
[06:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> I never upgrade versions, tried a few times and never ended well.
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> also i can set it to run in .bashrc
[06:37] <ubuntuw1204> ok
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> but i want the session to end immediately after the app closes, so they cant access the shell
[06:37] <dr_willis> DeliriumTremens:  theres  system settings on what apps can be used as a system shell
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> ahh
[06:37] <DeliriumTremens> i'll check it out
[06:37] <dr_willis> check out the restricted bash shell also
[06:38] <DeliriumTremens> well, it will esentially appear to them as if the app is running locally
[06:38] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: any way by which i can keep my already installed softwares?
[06:38] <DeliriumTremens> that's how i'd like it to go down
[06:38] <dr_willis> !clone | ubuntuw1204
[06:39] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: and whta is the best partitioning scheme
[06:39] <dr_willis> ubuntuw1204:  use the upgrade.. or make a list and clean install. then reinzxtgall them
[06:39] <dr_willis> Partition layouyt depends on your needs
[06:39] <ubuntuw1204> ok
[06:39] <dr_willis> i keep it simple   /  /home and swap
[06:40] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: me too, all primary partitions?
[06:40] <dr_willis> dosent matter
[06:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> you can't have more than one primary, can you? I always get primary / and /home and swap in an extended
[06:41] <ubuntuw1204> ntzrmtthihu777: you can have max 4 primary partitions
[06:41] <dr_willis> you can have 4 primaries on a msdos type partion layout
[06:41] <dr_willis> gpt patrtition  gets over theat limit
[06:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> interesting.
[06:41] <KRomeleoN> is libreoffice 4.0 still not available in sw center ??
[06:41] <dr_willis> 4 primary - one can be an extended - and hold logicals. (the old way)
[06:42] <dr_willis> KRomeleoN:  not that ive seen..  if it was you would se eit..
[06:42] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: yes, right
[06:42] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/252612/how-do-i-install-libreoffice-4/252613#252613
[06:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yeah, I got it figured out. root was using bash, but it was not sourcing /etc/bash_completion
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> slightly offtopic; is there such a ppa/repo that's maintained by canonical and contains the latest software, but untested and undocumented?
[06:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> latest what software?
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> of anything
[06:43] <dr_willis> !backuports | aeon-ltd
[06:43] <dr_willis> !backports
[06:44] <dr_willis> not really a 'ppa' :) but a repo
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> thank you
[06:45] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: so when u reinstall do you replace the existing / and don;t format the /home and swap?
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> man I can never understand why people, given the option and knowledge, stick with win $
[06:45] <dr_willis> you got it
[06:45] <dr_willis> and you add your users back in the same order
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ntzrmtthihu777: drivers, compatibility, performance, software choices, and lazy. there's a few
[06:47] <dr_willis> silly amazon prime dont want to work on Ubuntu for me.. hacvent tried it this week.. time to see if its  working now
[06:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> bleh.
[06:49] <dr_willis> still not working. ;(
[06:49] <neirpyc> I'm running 12.04.2 on a Macbook Pro 7,1. Is there a way to swap the way the fn keys work like there is in OSX? I want to be able to hit the fn keys as fn keys and hit fn+key for the brightness, volume, etc.
[06:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: wazzat
[06:50] <dr_willis> aparently theres some flash/drm feature that amazon prime needs.. so it dont work on linux at the moment.
[06:50] <ubuntuw1204> i have ubuntu  1204 installed and its giving a lot of error. eg- some prolem ocuured
[06:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> neirpyc: I had same issue in hp dv5, but it was a bios setting.
[06:51] <neirpyc> ntzrmtthihu777, I don't think MBPs have a BIOS... Hmm.
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> not a clue, lol. I avoid crapple even more than win$
[06:52] <neirpyc> ntzrmtthihu777, Yeah, I would have done the same but it was given to me as a work machine and I was allowed to take it when I went freelance. Trying to make the best of it now. =)
[06:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> neirpyc: I getcha, lol. at least a win$ machine is easy to convert over, crapple has its own issues that make stuff tricky
[06:54] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: i have ubuntu  1204.02 installed and its giving a lot of error. eg- some prolem ocuured
[06:54] <ubuntuw1204> dr_willis: is there a way i can keep up with the latest kernel?
[06:55] <iknofailfu> is it a bug or am i doing it wrong? and should i report it and if yes, where? i mean i don't know what's going on http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[06:55] <neirpyc> ntzrmtthihu777, I hear ya. I got WiFi working with the proprietary drivers just fine but I can't get the video card drivers to work correctly for my life!
[06:56] <nearst> still not work well for graphic
[06:57] <debiantoruser> Greetings!
[06:57] <debiantoruser> bdf28d67621416970299f149ddc8d333  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[06:57] <debiantoruser> ubuntu 12.10
[06:57] <debiantoruser> how to save settings of amdcccle?
[06:57] <debiantoruser> After restart X, everythings go to default....
[06:57] <FloodBot1> debiantoruser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <theadmin> debiantoruser: You shouldn't use that installer, install the driver from the repos :/
[06:59] <ubuntuw1204> how can i keep up with latest kernel
[06:59] <debiantoruser> Linux bt 3.5.0-25-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 18 23:27:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: got it, I just had to uncomment a few lines in roots ~/.bashrc
[06:59] <debiantoruser> theadmin, there is no any correct driver in repos
[06:59] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Backtrack is not supported here.
[07:00] <debiantoruser> it's old name, i'm on 12.10
[07:00] <debiantoruser> quantal
[07:00] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Err, never mind, "bt" is the machine name
[07:00] <theadmin> debiantoruser: The propretiary AMD driver is in the repos, it's called "fglrx"
[07:00] <nearst> im downgrade to precise :-/
[07:00] <debiantoruser> theadmin, i'm shure it doesn't work
[07:01] <debiantoruser> Are you use it?
[07:01] <theadmin> debiantoruser: And why is that? It worked for me back when I had an AMD card
[07:01] <debiantoruser> +"with this device ati amd radeon HD6870
[07:02] <theadmin> I'm not sure that's the exact one I had, but yes, it was a Radeon HD 6something
[07:02] <iknofailfu> is it a bug or am i doing it wrong? and should i report it and if yes, where? i mean i don't know what's going on http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:02] <debiantoruser> theadmin, may be it was, in far past
[07:02] <theadmin> debiantoruser: ...That was this year, even.
[07:03] <iknofailfu> please, guys, you are my last chance =)
[07:03] <nearst> amd driver is still broken, unless got support to xorg 1.13 afaik
[07:04] <theadmin> Hm.
[07:04] <nearst> radeon is a little help. :D time for opengl as well
[07:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> iknofailfu: no clue what that paste is supposed to mean, give some background, whatcha doin?
[07:04] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, where are uuid's gone?
[07:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> iknofailfu: you need the uuid of a device? is that it?
[07:04] <iknofailfu> why there is not sda# for both listed with parted
[07:04] <debiantoruser> theadmin, ati command migrate to, i don't know where, now 13.1 - is stable proprietary driver, it provide 9.012 build, next step is 13.2 - beta, it provide 12.xxx build
[07:04] <theadmin> Anyway I have a little problem. I have used the "Keyboard" in the unity settings panel to bind Super+R to gnome-terminal (used to that shortcut from windows times :/) but it stops working randomly
[07:04] <iknofailfu> and how can i mount it without those
[07:05] <debiantoruser> repos drivers don't work
[07:05] <theadmin> Doesn't work right now, for example, but it worked like a minute ago
[07:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm
[07:06] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, that's bizarre thing, after firmware and bios update for the laptop i ended up with exiting partitions that are no longer identified and listed with anything but `parted` so i can't mount it
[07:06] <iknofailfu> there are 2 luks-partitions and it is clear for parted gui
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> check /etc/fstab, and you can get the uuid from gparted methinks.
[07:06] <debiantoruser> theadmin, where i can get irc-support about amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run?
[07:07] <debiantoruser> which irc channel?
[07:07] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Nowhere, you have to contact AMD about it.
[07:07] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, plugging ssd to another boxes with different controllers or over usb shows the same, how am i supposed to look at fstab when i can't mount it?
[07:08] <iknofailfu> how can it appear to be listed on fstab in live cd environment
[07:08] <debiantoruser> theadmin, #ati
[07:08] <debiantoruser> (:
[07:08] <iknofailfu> it is the second week, no help from community at all
[07:08] <theadmin> debiantoruser: Hm, I have doubts that's official. Besides ATI doesn't exist.
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> iknofailfu: do you have a live disk? boot it, and use the file browser to find it.
[07:09] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777, i'm already in live environment because losing uuid's and sda# idetificators leads to bricked luks / instance
[07:09] <iknofailfu> obviously
[07:09] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: I don't think you understand the problem... iknofailfu, the /dev nodes don't get created, right?
[07:09] <iknofailfu> theadmin, exactly
[07:09] <BobbyShaftoe> Hi, who knows how to find out the best MTU settings for an openvpn client?
[07:09] <BobbyShaftoe> Hi, who knows how to find out the best MTU settings for an openvpn client?
[07:09] <theadmin> iknofailfu: Is there anything in /etc/udev/rules.d/ that looks suspicious?
[07:09] <theadmin> BobbyShaftoe: Leave it empty = it will be automatic.
[07:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> so you can't even see the partitions using nautilus?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | BobbyShaftoe
[07:10] <dr_willis> BobbyShaftoe:  try differnt settings, then run a benchmarks.. i doubt if it matters much
[07:10] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: no /dev node = *nothing* will see the partition
[07:10] <iknofailfu> theadmin, it is live usb of 12.10 i don't think there is something suspicious
[07:10] <BobbyShaftoe> !vpn
[07:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/ well that sucks.
[07:10] <theadmin> iknofailfu: Ah, okay, hm...
[07:10] <iknofailfu> theadmin, look at the screenshots, `parted` can see it
[07:10] <theadmin> Yeah I saw that
[07:10] <BobbyShaftoe> I already checked  a lot of google results
[07:10] <iknofailfu> gparted even shows it is luks-encrypted
[07:11] <iknofailfu> so how the hell parted knows
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> is there a package that can notify with sound when receiving hotmail or gmail emails?
[07:11] <iknofailfu> i'm in desperate for real, this is the second week with no hints from community =)
[07:12] <iknofailfu> i need to mount it at least to re-fresh the backup, it is very important to me
[07:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> well you won't hear anything from me, its beyond my current comprehension.
[07:12] <debiantoruser> they are all dead
[07:12] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: There's gnome-gmail-notifier, gmail-notify and checkgmail in the repos.
[07:12] <debiantoruser> theadmin, why there are three flood bod?
[07:12] <iknofailfu> ntzrmtthihu777,  guys, you already tried, this is the second time i got attention with my problems, thank you so much
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: tnx mate
[07:12] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: As for hotmail, I'm not sure, but doesn't Thunderbird do notifications?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: i dont want to download email with thunderbird
[07:13] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Makes sense, well, I find nothing for hotmail though
[07:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, I figured my problem out, later guys!
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: ok tnx anyway
[07:14] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: You could set up GMail to receive mail from your hotmail account though, I guess :D
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: maybe thunderbird can notify without download all emails?
[07:15] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Nah I don't think it can
[07:16] <neirpyc> Is there a way to see what is happening when I press one of the special function keys like brightness? I would like to set my brightness to a certain value at boot but none of the commands I've found online seem to work.
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: ok, another question.. you know any package or method that can trace usb worm activity?
[07:17] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Uhm, what's a usb worm?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: like an autorun injection on usb
[07:18] <dr_willis> running a windows executable?
[07:18] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Oh. Well, COMODO provides a Linux version of their antivirus which should be quite capable of finding such infections.
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: yes lets say the usb got a windows autorun injection on it
[07:19] <theadmin> I say though, find /media -name 'autorun.inf' -delete
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> can it be traced from ubuntu?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> or maybe a tail -f trick to usb or something?
[07:26] <manico> !ciao
[07:26] <manico> !list
[07:30] <iknofailfu> maybe someone could give me a hint where are uuid's and sda#'s ? live environment, 2 luks partitions seen by `parted`(no lvm, no raid) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:38] <iknofailfu> maybe someone could give me a hint where are uuid's and sda#'s ? live environment, 2 luks partitions seen by `parted`(no lvm, no raid) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:40] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: doesn't /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 ? you use cryptsetup to "open" the luks partitions.
[07:40] <dr_willis> the windows auto run 'injection' is just a  basic autornning an .exe on insertion.. from what i recall. you are making it sound fancier then what it is...
[07:41] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, look through the paste i provided carefully
[07:41] <dr_willis> use whatever wine tools exist to trace .exe files and run the thing
[07:41] <histo> iknofailfu: lsblk please
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i just readed some stuff about apparmor blocking autorun
[07:41] <iknofailfu> histo, doesn't show any partitions on sda
[07:42] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: yes it does.
[07:42] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, what?
[07:42] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: you have sda1 and sda2, if you use cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 csda1 and input your key, you will then be able to access the crypted device as /dev/mapp/csda1
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: just installed rkhunter and scanning system, maybe it pickup from /media too
[07:43] <histo> iknofailfu: sdb1 and 2 are showing. With crypt-luks  Did you use encrption on both drives?
[07:43] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: /dev/mapper/csda1
[07:43] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, i don't have sda1 and sda2 that is the reason i came
[07:43] <iknofailfu> http://pastebin.com/6bvYv69z
[07:43] <iknofailfu> this drive is sda
[07:43] <iknofailfu> as mentioned at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560820/
[07:43] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: ok, what is it you want to achieve? what is your problem, what is it you want to do?
[07:43] <iknofailfu> however only `parted` can see there are 2 partitions
[07:43] <iknofailfu> i want to mount it
[07:44] <iknofailfu> but i can't point cryptsetup at device that doesn't exist
[07:44] <iknofailfu> but, again, parted can see it
[07:44] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: ok, I have already provided the solution then. "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 csda1" and then mount /dev/mapper/csda1
[07:44] <iknofailfu> and parted gui is able to recognize it is luks-encrypted
[07:44] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, there is no sda1
[07:44] <iknofailfu> that is the problem
[07:44] <iknofailfu> so you didn't
[07:45] <iknofailfu> because you didn't read what i say
[07:45] <histo> iknofailfu: Did you use whole disk encryption on sda?
[07:45] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: run partx
[07:45] <iknofailfu> histo, yes
[07:45] <iknofailfu> histo, bsd table, 2 partitions, no lvm, no raid
[07:45] <histo> iknofailfu: Has this setup ever worked?
[07:46] <iknofailfu> histo, the funny thing - yes
[07:46] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: did you run "partx" ?
[07:46] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, i'm not sure how exactly i should run it and what result you expect me to paste
[07:46] <iknofailfu> be more precise please
[07:47] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: "partx (8)            - telling the kernel about presence and numbering of on-disk partitions."
[07:47] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: just run it and check if /dev/sda1 shows up.
[07:47] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, if you just `partx` it throws usage short-help
[07:48] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: ok, "partx /dev/sda" then I guess.
[07:48] <SwedeMike> or partx -a
[07:48] <iknofailfu> partx: /dev/sda: dos partition table does not contains usable partitions
[07:48] <iknofailfu> it's not dos, because it is bsd
[07:48] <iknofailfu> i'm not sure what to do with it
[07:49] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: I guess you could use "addpart" and manually tell the kernel about the partition.
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5560907/
[07:49] <iknofailfu> partx -a results the same usage output
[07:49] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, thanks for the hint, let me check it
[07:50] <fr0g-> what is the proper way to uninstall all of unity on 12.10?
[07:50] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, so it requires first and last sector, right? usage: addpart diskdevice partitionnr start length
[07:51] <iknofailfu> fortunately parted shows it
[07:51] <histo> iknofailfu: did you partition sda with gpt?
[07:51] <iknofailfu> histo, gpt?
[07:52] <iknofailfu> i did it manually from-under alternate cd debian installer
[07:52] <iknofailfu> in expert mode
[07:52] <histo> iknofailfu: as opposed to ms dos partition table a gpt partition table. Although it shouldn't matter.
[07:52] <iknofailfu> i mean i don't remember well what was the tool it uses
[07:52] <histo> iknofailfu: probably not then.
[07:52] <iknofailfu> histo, it has bsd partition table
[07:52] <histo> iknofailfu: Did the disk maybe fail?
[07:53] <fr0g-> Nothing? ;/
[07:53] <histo> iknofailfu: Why does it?
[07:53] <iknofailfu> histo, there is another theory on this behavior, once upon a time i updated bios and firmware for laptop while this ssd replaced the stock drive
[07:53] <stan879nz> hello im after a tut on how to remote desktop to my ubuntu machine from windows that has not been logged i
[07:54] <iknofailfu> histo, i manyally pointed that i want bsd partition table, i got reasons
[07:54] <histo> iknofailfu: do you want to convert it now? from bsd label?
[07:54] <histo> iknofailfu: gdisk will do that.
[07:54] <iknofailfu> histo, can i convert it having luks-encrypted partitions without data loss?
[07:55] <Guest25050> how can i erase LUKS_partition label from desktop, if it already mounted?
[07:55] <fr0g-> what is the proper way to uninstall all of unity on 12.10?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !nounity|fr0g-,
[07:55] <dr_willis> !purekde
[07:56] <dr_willis> what are you wanting to use instead fr0g- ?
[07:56] <fr0g-> fluxbox
[07:56] <histo> iknofailfu: allegedly you can convert the bsd labesl to gpt without data corruption. I'm not 100% sure though. You said these bsd-label partitions were previously able to be mounte din ubuntu and now they cant?
[07:56] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity   fr0g-
[07:57] <dr_willis> fr0g-:  you can just install fluxbox.. and seleect it at the login screeen
[07:57] <histo> iknofailfu: I would image the disk for backup first and then play with it.
[07:57] <fr0g-> I read that and noticed a specific entry for each version of ubuntu  none of wich are 12.10
[07:57] <iknofailfu> histo, i'll give it a try if nothing will help eventually, thank you
[07:57] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, thank you too
[07:57] <fr0g-> and I know I can install fluxbox and just select at login   but I dont want any unity stuff on my small ssd
[07:59] <fr0g-> Well thanks for the pointers, Ill just go for it and hope for the best. :)
[08:00] <histo> ahh well had a fix for fr0g
[08:00] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, wow, that unity gui even recognized it is luks partition providing a gui-dialog for decrypt-auth right after i `addpart`ed id following your advice, this is the first serious hope-giving progress step lol, thank you
[08:01] <Guest25050> how can i remove LUKS_partition label from desktop? if it already mounted, but partition label on desktop didn't remove.
[08:01] <iknofailfu> however i ended up with some sorta live gui bug "Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/ubuntu' failed: Operation not supported" while trying to get an access over that gui nautilus(?)
[08:05] <Akita`> is there any french room for ubunutu support ?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !fr|akita
[08:05] <Akita`> thanks :)
[08:06] <iknofailfu> SwedeMike, i never thought it would be that easy, mounted it successfully and already making the backup, you have no idea, i've spent more than a week to find out that i never used `addpart` thank you so much
[08:07] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <debiantoruser> amdcccle doesn't save settings, who know why?
[08:07] <vairam> hi
[08:08] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  if you ran it as root once.. it may have write the users settings to a root owned file in their home directory
[08:08] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, i found /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
[08:08] <Oweoqi> Whoops haha ubuntuthemes.org
[08:08] <SwedeMike> iknofailfu: you're welcome.
[08:08] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  that wouldent be a user setting file
[08:08] <Oweoqi> seems hacked
[08:09] <histo> yes
[08:09] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, i run it as run
[08:09] <debiantoruser> root
[08:09] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  each user can have their own seperate settings if they run the file
[08:10] <dr_willis> debiantoruser:  thats about all i know on the ati stuff.. i only got 1 ati system any more
[08:11] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, it store settings in /etc/, but it doesn't read them, when i restart X, settings become default
[08:12] <dr_willis> if the user has settings saved it will override the system settings
[08:12] <dr_willis> for that user
[08:12] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:13] <cristian_c> I can't browse my android device via bluetooth
[08:13] <cristian_c> I've found 'Browse Files on Device'
[08:13] <cristian_c> but I get an error
[08:13] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, anyway, to make changes which me need, required administator access
[08:14] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:14] <dr_willis> i find it easier to use the wifi features fo access my android phone cristian_c .. ive not tried bluetooth  with it in ages..
[08:16] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I'm searching a local and simple connection between two bluetooth devices
[08:16] <calwig> hi i just created a USB boot disk for windows, and it was done successfully, however near the end of the unetbootin installation, I read shortly something about the boot sector, then it finished. Im afraid the next boot will fail my current seup
[08:16] <nearst> hotspot would be much good im guess :) with the right tool and right track
[08:16] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  where you at this last week?
[08:17] <calwig> s/seup/setup  so how can one check the boot loader is still going to come up?
[08:17] <calwig> Ub12.04
[08:17] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, got bless you, changes from one user, make settings for each others
[08:17] <cfhowlett> calwig, boot up and run check disk for erros.  then you'll know
[08:17] <cfhowlett> *errors*
[08:17] <dr_willis> debiantoruser: if the user is running the config tool as root.. it would eitehr change the default system file.. or the specific users settings
[08:18] <calwig> cfhowlett, can i check while im on the pc now that grub should come up?
[08:18] <debiantoruser> dr_willis, but i'm run it as user, and changes system, only that way, when i try it with root access, nothing work
[08:18] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I don't understand
[08:18] <calwig> grub customizer is what i use now
[08:18] <cfhowlett> calwig, nope.  boot the usb.  there error checking option is available once booted.
[08:18] <nearst> grub customizer ?
[08:19] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  werent you asking about this last week? I recall someome else asking a similer thing.. you dont get a lot of bluetooth questions in here  that ive seen
[08:19] <calwig> cfhowlett, right, i mean the PCs grub i dont know if it got touched, and I have no other way to boot, its a USB based pc
[08:20] <calwig> so Im here now before that happens, finding a way to reinstall grub now...
[08:20] <calwig> Grub customizer works right?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> calwig, i must have misunderstood.  I thought you said you were making a usb and got some kind of grub messag at the end of creation.   that would refer to the usb NOT to your installed system
[08:21] <calwig> cfhowlett, ah precisely what i thought
[08:21] <cfhowlett> calwig, but you might still want to do the internal error check on booting from that USB.
[08:21] <calwig> before i got to finish reading what it said, unetbootin finished copying files, so redflags went up
[08:22] <calwig> cfhowlett, cool, you kjnow a boot loader that can read the current bootable programs off the pc? Super unetbootin
[08:22] <calwig> or whats it called
[08:23] <cfhowlett> calwig, you're making things way to complicated.  *current bootable programs*?  unetbootin has no such thing that I know of.  It's used to create a bootable media from an ISO...
[08:24] <cristian_c> dr_willis, No, I've asked about suspennsion
[08:24] <cristian_c> *suspension
[08:25] <iKillCypher> guys how do I install sun Java 7
[08:25] <calwig> cfhowlett, ok ill slow down, lets just say the boot sector got changed and i cannot boot now from the PC. So I need a USB boot prog to allow me to see the PCs boot menu that was currently there, to choose which distro to boot from
[08:26] <iKillCypher> Sun JDK 7 on ubuntu
[08:26] <dr_willis> !java
[08:26] <dr_willis> its oracle java :)
[08:26] <cfhowlett> calwig, to fix windows boot, you need the windows disk,  and WHY are we having this question.  unetbootin was making a USB not mucking around with your HDD!
[08:27] <calwig> cfhowlett, correct again yes, just fuzzy about it because of what unetbootin said. anyway. gonna attempt to boot
[08:27] <cfhowlett> calwig, the default bootloader is grub which will display all OS's once installed.
[08:28] <boom0917> why  was libreoffice chosen over open office
[08:28] <dup> LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.org, which was ruled by evil Oracle.
[08:28] <cfhowlett> boom0917, old news.  see open office vs. libre office in the googles
[08:28] <dup> Most of Oracle's devs for OOo quit to make LO, I think.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> dup, don't know about most, but many for certain
[08:29] <boom0917> ty
[08:29] <dr_willis> oracle is good at making people mad. and hurting projects  ;()
[08:29] <Akita`> Okay there's nobody in the french room. I'm gonna try to explain..... I have installed the last ubuntu version 64 bits, but i have a lot of bugs, sometimes my PC doesn't work in graphic mode... theres are a lot of software wich does not work, and my hardware is not totally exploited. I can't find propietary driver for my graphic card (amd radeon hd 6450) and it makes a lot of bug's. It's a miracle that ubuntu work. My quest
[08:29] <Akita`> ion is: do you think i should continue with this version of ubuntu, or i should install the 32 bit version? Is the 64 bit version will be develloped and i will have no bug in the future?  please if you answer back, don't forget i'm french, i am not really good in english so a short answer easy to understant... Thanks :)
[08:30] <calwig> cfhowlett, cool deal, one last question. lets say I have several distros installed on the pc and the grub menu too. An idea is to not have the grub menu appear but instead use a USB boot menu and choose from there. Can be done with grub customizer right?
[08:30] <histo> ait| Akita`