[17:16] <edbian> ubuntu, are you in unity?
[17:16] <ubuntu> what is that
[17:16] <edbian> ubuntu, on the left side of the screen is there a bar of icons with firefox and such on it?
[17:16] <ubuntu> yeah
[17:16] <edbian> ubuntu, You're using unity which is a GUI
[17:17] <edbian> ubuntu, now, click the ubuntu thing (top icon) search for ubuntu software center and run it
[17:17] <ubuntu> funny how buggy it is
[17:17] <edbian> ubuntu, yes, it's hilarious
[17:17] <ubuntu> try to install flash plugin and you get bunch of errors
[17:17] <edbian> ubuntu, how did you try to install it?  What errors did you get?
[17:17] <gaby> hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:18] <ubuntu> depencies not resolved
[17:18] <ubuntu> and about failed apt-get fetches
[17:18] <ubuntu> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'contrib/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[17:19] <ubuntu> they have wrong sources in the sources.list
[17:19] <andygraybeal> what kernel is expected in 12.04?
[17:19] <gaby>  hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:19] <xangua> !pangolin | andygraybeal
[17:19] <ubuntu> and yeah the depencies
[17:19] <edbian> ubuntu, mmm, apparently.  Can you pastebin your /etc/sources.list     ?
[17:19] <andygraybeal> thank you xangua
[17:19] <edbian> ubuntu, Did you get ubuntu software center open?
[17:19] <ubuntu> not gonna be met for flash
[17:19] <ubuntu> gah
[17:19] <ubuntu> yeaj
[17:19] <Guest56466> hey
[17:19] <mang0> ubuntu: That's probably not the best nick to have XD You'll get pinged/highlighted/triggered all the time
[17:19] <edbian> gabnet, hang on a second
[17:19] <Guest56466> guys is there wine room
[17:19] <gaby>  hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:19] <edbian> #winehq
[17:20] <xangua> !appdb | Guest56466
[17:20] <edbian> gaby, wait a second!
[17:20] <ubuntu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:20] <ubuntu> flashplugin-installer: Depends: flashplugin-downloader (>= <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1) but it is a virtual package Depends: nspluginwrapper but it is not going to be installed
[17:20] <edbian> ubuntu, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list  ??
[17:20] <xangua> gaby: some detaild would help instead of repeating every 30 seconds
[17:20] <gaby> edbian : ok
[17:20] <ubuntu> and this is a fresh image
[17:20] <ubuntu> freshly booted
[17:20] <Guest56466> hey edbian
[17:20] <ubuntu> and its already broken
[17:20] <Guest56466> winehq
[17:20] <edbian> ubuntu, I'm trying to figure this out
[17:21] <Guest56466> oki tnx
[17:21] <gaby> what detail
[17:21] <edbian> ubuntu, do you have your /etc/apt/sources.list yet?
[17:22] <xangua> !partner | ubuntu enable the partner repo and then: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[17:22] <scroverty> Hi all! Is there any solution to disable laptop's DVD/CD rom on ubuntu?.. since I forgot Bios setup-pass...
[17:22] <edbian> xangua, is that was has to be done to install flash now?
[17:23] <volchok> Question: Does anybody know how to fix the resolution for the graphical boot splash  on startup for Ubuntu?
[17:23] <ubuntu> someone paste me a working source.list
[17:23] <ubuntu> that has all the necessary crap
[17:23] <xangua> edbian: looks like flashplugin is on partners only now
[17:23] <edbian> ubuntu, do what ubottu said
[17:23] <ubuntu> yeah that didnt work
[17:23] <edbian> xangua, that is not smart.  They expect every person to run that command to get flash?
[17:24] <xangua> !doesntwork | ubuntu
[17:24] <gaby>  hello - i  just installed ubuntu 11.10 now on my dell inspiron 1525 and i cant work with the WIFI - any help please
[17:24] <xangua> edbian: no idea, i don't use oneiric but i use flash from partners
[17:24] <edbian> gaby, do you know what pastebin is?
[17:24] <ubuntu> its the same errro
[17:24] <jutnux> gaby: Plug the laptop into the ethernet and go into additional drivers.
[17:24] <ubuntu> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[17:24] <ubuntu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:24] <ubuntu>  flashplugin-downloader:i386 : Depends: libnspr4-0d:i386 but it is not installable
[17:24] <ubuntu>                                Recommends: libasound2-plugins:i386 (>= 1.0.16) but it is not going to be installed
[17:24] <ubuntu>  flashplugin-installer : Depends: nspluginwrapper but it is not installable
[17:24] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <ubuntu> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:25] <gaby> guide  me and i will do it
[17:25] <edbian> ubuntu, sudo apt-get -f install
[17:25] <gaby> jutnux: i did
[17:25] <gaby> and ?
[17:26] <edbian> ubuntu, what's it doing?
[17:26] <ubuntu> i dontknow
[17:26] <edbian> ubuntu, pastebin it
[17:26] <ubuntu> how
[17:26] <mcbaine1> merry twilmas ...   http://goo.gl/SDPyJ
[17:26] <edbian> ubuntu, paste.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <ubuntu> give me a CLI to do it
[17:27] <edbian> ubuntu, ?  You have the gui
[17:27] <ubuntu> im so fucking drunk
[17:27] <mcbaine1> oh dear..
[17:27] <gaby> edbian - any help ?
[17:27] <edbian> forget this
[17:27] <edbian> gaby, yes! :)
[17:27] <ubuntu> ill have some more of christmas wine
[17:27] <mcbaine1> gaby.. try posting on Y!ahoo answers if possible...    :)
[17:27] <all-free> hi
[17:28] <edbian> gaby, run this command: sudo lspci -k       and copy / paste the output into this site: paste.ubuntu.com   and give me the link to the page it goes to when you submit
[17:28] <gaby> edbian - guide me what to do please
[17:28] <edbian> gaby, patience :)
[17:28] <edbian> mcbaine1, very funny
[17:28] <all-free> anyone can help to customize ubuntu boot image please? I am trying to do the same thing : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608621
[17:29] <all-free> Just i want to replace http://img225.imageshack.us/i/1stscreen.png
[17:31] <all-free> anyone please?
[17:31] <DaViD_k> Boa tarde :)
[17:31] <DaViD_k> Alguém aqui entende de DATACOM?
[17:31] <all-free> ?
[17:31] <all-free> what?
[17:31] <DaViD_k> Op´s sorry
[17:32] <Thales> Hello, I'm trying to load my network card module (r8101), but it fails with the following message: "FATAL: module r8101 not found". Anyone can explain that?
[17:32] <ayaka> does audacious support cue index?
[17:32] <Thales> I downloaded the driver from realtek official website
[17:32] <mongy> Thales:  try rtl-8101 ?
[17:33] <DaViD_k> Does anyone here know about DATACOM?
[17:33] <mongy> ayaka, yes
[17:33] <ayaka> mongy, but I tried to open a one failed
[17:34] <Thales> mongy: if you download the driver from realtek official website, you'll see that in the package contains a script (autorun.sh) to load automatically the module...
[17:34] <ubuntu_lappy> Installing Ubuntu, and I'm specifying partitions manually.  I've already made swap and ext4 partitions.  Do I only need to specify the ext4 as / and the swap as swap?  Or is there anything else I should do before continuing?
[17:34] <Thales> mongy: so, all you need to do is to execute, as root, that script
[17:35] <mongy> ayaka, hmm, might be something included inthe webupd8 ppa version then
[17:35] <omid> how can i unnstall ati propritary drivers(installed using amd's .run installer)?
[17:35] <mongy> Thales, sudo insmod r8101 ?
[17:35] <ayaka> mongy, in fact this file include some unicode
[17:35] <mongy> Thales, then sudo modprobe r8101
[17:36] <mongy> Thales, might be called rtl8101 or rtl-8101 though.  idk
[17:37] <nixmaniack> hi, I'm unable to get Wireless working on My Toshiba C650. No Network controller is listed in 'lspci', but it was listed when I first installed new kernel but after reboot it's gone.
[17:37] <wurschti> I'm trying to connect a 2nd monitor to my notebook, but it doesn't get recognized (in xrandr, that is). I've also already installed the nvidia-current driver. any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?
[17:38] <edbian> nixmaniack, use the older kernel
[17:39] <mongy> ayaka, I just looked in audacious and in the playlist plugins support there is cue
[17:39] <nixmaniack> edbian, but it's working only for one boot with evry kernel, then it goes away
[17:39] <ayaka> mongy, I see may it can't work thank you
[17:40] <edbian> nixmaniack, weird.  What card is it?
[17:40] <ayaka> is there game cheat(ram editor) in linux?
[17:40] <nixmaniack> edbian, Atheros
[17:41] <Xaifas> Merry Xmas folks!
[17:41]  * DarkXPhenomenon is a babbling maniac...
[17:44] <wurschti> anyone?
[17:44] <suicideblonde> org
[17:55] <all-free> Guys anyone of you can help me please : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899829  ?
[17:56] <linux-boy> Guys anyone of you can help me please : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899829
[18:01] <Oer> !remaster | linux-boy
[18:02] <linux-boy> Oer, I already tried them
[18:03] <Oer> so, what is your problem ?
[18:03] <linux-boy> I want replace the boot splash only : http://img225.imageshack.us/i/1stscreen.png
[18:04] <linux-boy> Still i don't know how to do it
[18:04] <linux-boy> after read this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization I can customize the iso but can't replace the boot image yet
[18:05] <Deltatash> Hi is anyone available to help me with a graphics issue ?
[18:06] <linux-boy> Oer, I have told my issue on the forum... can you help me with that please?
[18:07] <Deltatash> I go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers then I select "ATI/AMD proprietry FGLRX Graphics driver then I click Activate then I get this error that does not allow me to install the driver :s
[18:07] <Deltatash> Sorry, the installation of this driver failed.
[18:07] <Deltatash> Please have a look at the log file for details.: /var/log/jockey.log
[18:07] <Deltatash> any ideas ?
[18:07] <Seveas> Deltatash, have you looked at that logfile?
[18:07] <Deltatash> yes and I cant figure out the problem
[18:08] <Seveas> pastebin it
[18:08] <Deltatash> ok
[18:08] <Deltatash> 1 sec
[18:08] <mongy> Deltatash, sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx
[18:09] <Oer> linux-boy, i can't help you with customize splash on live-cd
[18:10] <linux-boy> np
[18:10] <Oer> linux-boy, the turorials should work
[18:10] <Deltatash> pastebin dont seem to work ill find an alternative, it wont load lol
[18:10] <Deltatash> mongy: I will try that thanks :)
[18:10] <TiMiDo> nice i got a brand new computer for Xmas
[18:10] <linux-boy> Oer, which tutorial?
[18:10] <TiMiDo> hope fully going to fix more bugs ;P
[18:10] <mongy> Deltatash,  it's worth a try at least.
[18:11] <Seveas> Deltatash, paste.ubuntu.com / paste.pocoo.org
[18:11] <insectatorious> TiMiDo: processor?
[18:11] <Deltatash> here you go Seveas:
[18:11] <mongy> Deltatash, check the log as seveas said if it doesn't work
[18:11] <Deltatash> https://gist.github.com/1517970
[18:12] <Deltatash> did that link work Seveas
[18:12] <Deltatash> if not ill try the paste.ubuntu.com or paste.pocoo.org
[18:13] <Deltatash> mongy with your command line I get "Running module version sanity check.
[18:13] <Deltatash> ERROR: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.32-37-generic-pae/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko: Invalid argument
[18:13] <Deltatash> ERROR: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.32-37-generic-pae/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko: Invalid argument
[18:13] <Deltatash> "
[18:13] <FloodBot1> Deltatash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <Seveas> Deltatash, yeah, link works
[18:13] <Deltatash> ok :)
[18:13] <coni500> hi!
[18:14] <DarkXPhenomenon> hey!
[18:14] <Seveas> Deltatash, install linux-restricted-modules-generic-pae and fglrx
[18:14] <Deltatash> inside synaptic packet manager?
[18:14] <Seveas> yeah
[18:14] <Deltatash> ok will do that now
[18:14] <coni500> Merry Christmas!
[18:15] <Seveas> merry christmas coni500. How can we help you?
[18:15] <Deltatash> Seveas, I dont have linux-restricted-modules-generic-pae in my synaptic packet manager :s
[18:15] <Deltatash> I have fglrx but no linux-restricted-modules-generic-pae
[18:17] <Seveas> Deltatash, looks like I'm a bit behind the times, just fglrx is enough
[18:17] <Deltatash> ok
[18:17] <Deltatash> Should i restart now fglrx is installed ? for it to take effect?
[18:17] <bastidrazor> Deltatash: just log out then back in. no need to do a full reboot
[18:17] <Seveas> try jockey again now that fglrx is installed
[18:17] <Seveas> it should work better now
[18:18] <Deltatash> ok so the usual? System > Administration > Hardware drivers?
[18:19] <Deltatash> ok it installed the properiety driver np this time and now says you may need to restart the computer for changes to take effect
[18:19] <Deltatash> just log out and in is enough then yeah  ?
[18:19] <bastidrazor> Deltatash: yes.
[18:19] <Deltatash> ok i will brb and let you know if it worked :) brb
[18:19] <Deltatash> than ks for your time btw :)
[18:21] <Deltatash> guys it worked it now says in hardware drivers that the driver is installed and in use :)
[18:22] <Deltatash> hmm my windows still seem a bit jerky when I move them about the screen though :s
[18:22] <Deltatash> this system is screwed up since it updated yesterday :( it was orginnally using the open source driver and everything was working perfect
[18:23] <Deltatash> I enabled Proprietry driver for a game in Wine and then ubuntu installed some kernal updates and now my graphics is just screwed :/
[18:23] <mongy> Deltatash, it was a little jerky on  mine when I used fglrx in unity..  have you disabled vsync in ccsm?
[18:23] <Deltatash> how do I disable them mongy?
[18:23] <Deltatash> i am on Ubuntu 10.4 btw with gnome 2
[18:24] <rorre> Hello, I have two questions for you guys.  I have never used ubuntu before, and I just finished installing 11.10.  When I restarted my system, Ubuntu was my only boot option in GRUB, even though I had selected install alongside my other operating system.  Is this a bug of some sort, or am I missing something?
[18:25] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: you can add the other OS back...
[18:25] <mongy> Deltatash, is your driver enabled and working then?
[18:25] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: which was your other OS?
[18:25] <rorre> DarkXPhenomenon: It was another Linux distribution.
[18:25] <Deltatash> yeah it says its installed and in use
[18:25] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: Grub or Lilo?
[18:25] <Deltatash> just I expected the window movement to be a little more smooth not so rough
[18:25] <mongy> Deltatash, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:26] <Deltatash> it plays video fine but moving a window is almost like it has no driver installed :/
[18:26] <DarkXPhenomenon> rorre: add the bootloader entry from grub... menu.lst
[18:26] <Deltatash> thanks ill run that now
[18:26] <ayaka> is there game cheat(ram editor) in linux?
[18:26] <mongy> Deltatash, run it and look in the OpenGL plugin and sync to vblank, disable it.
[18:26] <Deltatash> ok
[18:27] <urlin2u> rorre, run sudo update-grub in ubuntu and see if the other OS shows.
[18:27] <Deltatash> ok it installed cant seem to open the program though lol
[18:27] <Deltatash> or does it need to beopened from terminal ?
[18:28] <rorre> urlin2u: Oh, running that mentioned the other Linux distribution, so it's probably on the list now.  That was easy.
[18:28] <Deltatash> nvm found it lol
[18:28] <mongy> Deltatash, cant remember if its in Accessories or System menu.
[18:28] <urlin2u> rorre, cool.
[18:28] <Deltatash> I am inside but dont seen an OpenGL plugin :s
[18:28] <rorre> DarkXPhenomenon: I couldn't find menu.1st but urlin2u's suggestion may solve that issue.  Thanks!
[18:29] <mongy> Deltatash, hmm, its in oe of the first section of plugins.  Ages since I used 10.4
[18:29] <mongy> oe=one
[18:29] <Deltatash> nope not there :s
[18:29] <rorre> I'm going ot check it out and see if it's on my grub menu now, brb and thanks DarkXPhenomenon urlin2u
[18:29] <netraameht> join #vbox
[18:29] <Seveas> Deltatash, ccsm won't help you as you're using gnome 2 and not compiz :)
[18:29] <Deltatash> I think im gonna have to reformat :/ just to get my graphics working fluently again :( freaking update broke my system...
[18:30] <Deltatash> to go back to my open source driver I just go into hardware drivers and remove the the proprietry one right ?
[18:30] <Deltatash> will see if my open source driver still works as smoothly as it did
[18:30] <ayaka> mongy, thank you
[18:31] <mongy> Deltatash, its there somewhere.. keep looking.
[18:31] <netraameht> Hey can somebody help me? Im in use of VBox and I want to install Win XP (prof.
[18:31] <urlin2u> netraameht, whats the problem.
[18:32] <netraameht> Its asking for formatting, urlin2u
[18:32] <urlin2u> netraameht, the XP can format it in custom format.
[18:32] <Deltatash> brb relogging again to test something
[18:33] <urlin2u> netraameht, when do you get the asking for format?
[18:33] <netraameht> urlin2u, in the Windows install screen
[18:33] <netraameht> a blue screen
[18:33] <Seveas> netraameht, windows support in ##windows please.
[18:34] <netraameht> its not for windows, its for Ubuntu
[18:34] <rorre> urlin2u: Grub did not add an entry for my other Linux distro when I rebooted.
[18:34] <Seveas> you're installing windows, you need windows support :)
[18:34] <netraameht> Seveas, no, I need VBox support!
[18:35] <Seveas> netraameht, why? vbox works fine and is booting the windows installer. At that point it's windows support :)
[18:35] <urlin2u> netraameht, it doesn't have a partition table that my be the problem, are you familiar with using the XP disc?
[18:35] <Deltatash> guys
[18:35] <Deltatash> I done the things you asked me
[18:35] <netraameht> Seveas, urlin2u, so I can just select Format?
[18:35] <Seveas> netraameht, ask in ##windows
[18:35] <mongy> netraameht, just format it as ntfs.
[18:35] <Deltatash> and fiddled with a few settings tbh the fiddling i done i have no  idea what i done but i restarted and works fine now :)
[18:36] <Deltatash> thanks for your help guys :)
[18:36] <netraameht> ok
[18:36] <Seveas> Deltatash, np, glad we could help
[18:36] <Deltatash> :D
[18:36] <mongy> netraameht, google 'how to install xp'  or goto ##windows
[18:36] <netraameht> I chosed your option xD
[18:36] <Deltatash> dunno what the update changed to screw me over like this though lol xD
[18:36] <netraameht> hope it works
[18:36] <urlin2u> rorre, what is the other OS, and did you remove any partitions or resize any with the install?
[18:36] <Deltatash> but one last question
[18:37] <dario> !ciao
[18:37] <netraameht> whahaha, I saw an epic game in the Ubuntu software center xD
[18:37] <dario> \list
[18:37] <urlin2u> netraameht, yeah, your in the virtual machine it wont affect the host.
[18:37] <Deltatash> if I go into hardware drivers and click "remove" that will automatically default me back to the open source driver if i ever need it right ?
[18:37] <mongy> DeltaEpsilon, yes.
[18:37] <netraameht> urlin2u, op
[18:37] <netraameht> urlin2u, ok*
[18:37] <rorre> urlin2u: The other OS is Linux, and I selected the option to 'install alongside' ubuntu, and had no manual partition interaction.  Ubuntu decided to install itself onto one of my empty hard drives
[18:37] <netraameht> 35%
[18:38] <DeltaEpsilon> any one knows a good alternative to Navicat?
[18:38] <mongy> Deltatash, yes.
[18:38] <JoshR1> Hello
[18:38] <Deltatash> ok cool, thanks :)
[18:38] <rorre> urlin2u: it didn't ask me which drive to install to, which i thought was odd, but I didn't really care since it just chose a blank drive.
[18:38] <JoshR1> How can I get a share to maintain between resets in 11.10?
[18:38] <netraameht> Any way to get Mono 2.8?
[18:38] <Deltatash> Anyway I need to go eat  :P thanks a lot guys you saved my ass xD :P
[18:38] <Deltatash> cya
[18:38] <mongy> Deltatash,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually is a simple to follow guide for installing the latest driver, if you feel the need.
[18:38] <Seveas> DeltaEpsilon, isn't that the query browser?
[18:39] <Deltatash> ohh nice I will save that link and read later thanks :D
[18:39] <shomon> hi, I can't get rhythmbox to copy files into my ipod nano... is there a trick to it?
[18:39] <shomon> it copies fine to an ipod mini...
[18:39] <Deltatash> cya :)
[18:39] <urlin2u> rorre, sounds like the grub bootloader is in the other discs mbr possibly, is this a master slave ide setup?
[18:39] <DarkXPhenomenonX> rorre: fixed?
[18:39] <netraameht> Hey, is there any way to get Mono 2.8?
[18:39] <rorre> urlin2u: it's all SATA, but yes, grub seems to be installed on 'sda' while ubuntu is on 'sdf'
[18:40] <Amaroks> Hi Guys
[18:40] <urlin2u> rorre, you can from the ubuntu install to its mbr is this a raid?
[18:40] <rorre> DarkXPhenomenonX: not yet.  I was hoping the grub update command would have worked, but it's still not
[18:40] <Amaroks> I got windows 7 and installed ubuntu side by side I used to see windows partition on ubuntu and access it , not anymore, any Idea?
[18:41] <rorre> urlin2u: sda and sdf are both unraided disks
[18:41] <xangua> !grub2 | Amaroks
[18:41] <rorre> sdb,sdc,sed,sef are all software raided
[18:41] <rorre> urlin2u: ^
[18:41] <shomon> can anyone suggest any other software that can copy files to and from an ipod on ubuntu?
[18:41] <Amaroks> I did not install windows after
[18:41] <Amaroks> Windows was there and still there but simple reinstalled ubuntu and since thene I dont see the partitions in ubuntu
[18:42] <seidos> does anybody know how to write a script, or have code, that will mute speakers on hibernating?
[18:42] <urlin2u> rorre, run sudo fdisk -l to confirm the ubuntu install disc then run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX    then run the update-grub the X is the HD with no number .
[18:42] <Ryllez89> Guys, how to put my wife user to run virtualbox emulating Windows automatically on logon?
[18:42] <xangua> Amaroks: you don't see the partition as in you deleted windows partition then installing ubuntu¿
[18:43] <rorre> urlin2u: so grub-install to the disk that ubunto is installed onto or to the first disk that the computer tries to boot?
[18:44] <urlin2u> rorre, I would put it in the HD where ubuntu is.
[18:44] <urlin2u> rorre, if ubuntu is the sdf then the command and X=f
[18:44] <Amaroks> No  I did not remove windows its still there and I use it sometmes
[18:44] <JoshR1> How can I get a persistent share between reboots?
[18:44] <mongy> Ryllez89,  add to startup apps, VirtualBox -startvm "name of vm"
[18:45] <rorre> Just as a generic aside, is teh root password scrambled by default on ubuntu installs or is it set to something in particular?
[18:45] <Ryllez89> mongy, where i find the startup apps?
[18:45] <Seveas> JoshR1, what do you mean with "persistent share"?
[18:45] <urlin2u> rorre, we have a bootscript that is used.. to see more info if needed, if tis does not fix it.
[18:45] <mongy> Ryllez89, top right corner icon, click it, choose startup applications
[18:45] <netraameht> mono 2.8?
[18:46] <rorre> urlin2u: rebooting now, let's see what happens
[18:46] <JoshR1> Every time I update my file server and need to restart my raid is no longer shared and I have to go back and set it to share again.
[18:46] <Ryllez89> mongy, but i can add on my wife user? now im using my user
[18:46] <Seveas> Ryllez89, log in as her and then add it
[18:46] <Ryllez89> her user will have permission to use the VM?
[18:47] <mongy> Ryllez89,  you might have to add her to the vboxusers group for shared foldes and usb access..
[18:47] <DeltaEpsilon> Seveas, yes, it is
[18:48] <Seveas> DeltaEpsilon, mysql-navigator may work for you then
[18:49] <Ryllez89> mongy, u can tell me how i do this?
[18:49] <mongy> Ryllez89, just login as her and add to startup. worry about the group permission laer, she might not need it.
[18:49] <Seveas> Ryllez89, sudo gpasswd -a her_loginname vboxusers
[18:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Looks like development has been dead for 7+ years.
[18:50] <DeltaEpsilon> Seveas, ^^
[18:50] <DeltaEpsilon> not a good alternative
[18:50] <netraameht> O - M - G, Win XP looks really old!
[18:50] <Seveas> DeltaEpsilon, that's why I said "might". I don't use a gui for databases so I didn't know how bad it was :)
[18:50] <Ryllez89> thank you!!!
[18:51] <mongy> netraameht, 10 yrs is a long time
[18:51] <edbian> Ryllez89, usermod -a -G <group> <user>   how to add an existing user to an existing group
[18:51] <edbian> darnit
[18:51] <Seveas> edbian, gpasswd or useradd are easier to remember ;)
[18:51] <netraameht> mongy, I cant find my Win 7 disk, so I used a Win XP ISO, But im happy that it works!
[18:51] <edbian> Seveas, yeah, I had to look that one up
[18:52] <edbian> windows xp is old
[18:52] <edbian> Seveas, hello btw :)
[18:52] <netraameht> edbian, yea!
[18:52] <Seveas> ohai
[18:52] <rorre> urlin2u: no luck
[18:52] <edbian> come in, see this, wat do?
[18:52] <Marezz> Hi folks, whats better in ur opinion, gnome mplayer or vlc?
[18:53] <JoshR1> VLC
[18:53] <xangua> !better | Marezz
[18:53] <Seveas> mplayer with libcaca as backend
[18:53] <edbian> Marezz, I like vlc
[18:54] <urlin2u> Amaroks, do you have a windows disc to run a chkdsk from, and have you run a sudo update-grub
[18:54] <trinikrono> how do i change unity menu items say to add one to the launcher
[18:55] <mongy> Seveas, sounds familiar.. is that the ascii output?
[18:55] <edbian> trinikrono, drag the icon you want onto the launcher
[18:55] <Marezz> btw does Unity work with AMD Catalyst?
[18:55] <yanmorin> after a distro-upgrade to oneiric, some launcher icon and nautilus are missing...  any idea?
[18:55] <edbian> Marezz, at the very least unity 2D works with anything
[18:56] <edbian> Marezz, I don't know if unity 3D works with AMD (probably)
[18:56] <yanmorin> by missing = the shortcut is there with a blank icon
[18:56] <urlin2u> rorre, so what is the the other linux some run with lilo and are harder to work with.
[18:56] <Marezz> edbian, is there a big difference between those 2 modes?
[18:56] <mongy> Marezz, yes.
[18:56] <rorre> urlin2u: It was grub.
[18:56] <rorre> urlin2u: Funtoo =D
[18:56] <Seveas> mongy, ascii with ansi color codes
[18:57] <urlin2u> rorre, so when you ran the install command you ran the update to as well?
[18:58] <rorre> urlin2u: I'm not sure what you mean.
[18:59] <rorre> Why does it feel like tab-completion is funky on Ubuntu.  like if I type /dev/md<tab> it complets to md3 even though there's md md1 md3 md5 etc
[18:59] <Seveas> rorre, then you've changed something yourself, that's not the normal behaviour
[18:59] <urlin2u> rorre I had you run sudo grun-install /dev/sdX did you run the sudo update-grub before rebooting?
[18:59] <urlin2u> grub*
[19:00] <rorre> Seveas: Knoppix does it too, I thought it was a user-friendly thing.  I've changed nothing besides adding kvirc, this is a fresh install :(
[19:00] <rorre> urlin2u: nope
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> Hello
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> I'm running ubuntu 11.04, and am trying to get my penabled tablet working
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> now, it's not quite as simple as a normal tabletPC, because I actually took the digitizer out of a different computer and am using it on a usb to serial convertor
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> the question is, how do I force ubuntu to use the digitizer on /dev/ttyUSB0
[19:01] <UnderSampled|ta1> as it won't be able to detect it the normal way
[19:01] <FloodBot1> UnderSampled|ta1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:01] <rorre> urlin2u: I hadn't run update after, should I try rebooting once again?
[19:01] <urlin2u> rorre, okay run it now that you always do it reset the grub menu, also the sdf hard drive has to be first read to work as well in the bios,
[19:02] <Kal_Zakath> merry xmas, lamers
[19:02] <Kal_Zakath> :)
[19:03] <subman> I just installed Ubuntu on my netbook and although when I first booted off of the usb stick, wireless and the touchpad worked just fine but now that it is installed, my touchpad does not work at all neither does the wireless.  any fixes for these big errors?  Lubuntu installed and worked just fine.
[19:03] <urlin2u> rorre, that all make sense you know j=how to get to the bios or use a key prompt usually f12 to get a boot from menu.
[19:03] <shomon> I have a 1gb ipod nano. Where can I get help on copying stuff to it in ubuntu?
[19:03] <urlin2u> j= is you* rorre
[19:04] <shomon> I've tried with rhythmbox, banshee and gtkbox...
[19:06] <Taj_> k, im officially baffled
[19:06] <Taj_> i now have 3 boxes running ubuntu 11.10
[19:06] <Taj_> and two of them can see each other and this one and share files accordingly
[19:07] <Taj_> but this one can't see either of the other two
[19:07] <zxy_64> TiMiDo, i fixed it with editing modelines in xorg.conf
[19:07] <Taj_> any thoughts?
[19:07] <zxy_64> thx for help anyway
[19:08] <UnderSampled|ta1> Hello, I'm running ubuntu 11.04, and am trying to get my penabled tablet working. It's not quite as simple as a normal tabletPC, because I actually took the digitizer out of a different computer and am using it on a usb to serial converter. How do I force ubuntu to use the digitizer on /dev/ttyUSB0 ? Ubuntu won't be able to detect it the normal way.
[19:09] <Seveas> Taj_, can the third one ping the other 2?
[19:10] <urlin2u> UnderSampled|ta1, sounds like you might like the ##hardware channel as a backup
[19:10] <Taj_> idk
[19:10] <UnderSampled|ta1> urlin2u: I can try
[19:11] <Taj_> whats the easiest way to do ping them?
[19:13] <omid> hi please help me
[19:13] <omid> i installed ATI propritary fglrx drivers using the .run file from AMD's official website
[19:13] <Taj_> hmmm update, they are listed when i put smbtree in
[19:13] <omid> now i have screen glitches too much. how can i uninstall that driver
[19:16] <philpem> I'm trying to build the CVS version of Gutenprint on a Launchpad PPA -- I've got it building locally but the build server is barfing when it builds the docs.
[19:16] <philpem> Build log is here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/88349571/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.gutenprint_5.2.7cvs20111224a-philpem3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:16] <amaroks> Hi
[19:16] <philpem> Seems to be a problem with Openjade -- "openjade:/build/buildd/gutenprint-5.2.7cvs20111224a/debian/build/doc/developer/gutenprint.xml:13:0:E: host "www.oasis-open.org" not found"
[19:16] <philpem> Can anyone suggest how I might be able to fix this?
[19:16] <amaroks> Guys everytime I reboot, the quick lunch menu disappear and top right menu
[19:17] <amaroks> and I have to do unity --reset to get things looking good again
[19:17] <fidy> anyone in here run Zenix?
[19:24] <yanmorin> is it supposed to look like that? http://yansanmo.progysm.com/photos/ps/linux/ubuntu-oneiric-noicon.png ?
[19:25] <Seveas>  yanmorin not really
[19:26] <Seveas> you've done something weird with your theme
[19:26] <yanmorin> I've update two time in a row
[19:26] <fidy> anyone here run Zenix
[19:26] <yanmorin> It was like that after the second upgrade
[19:27] <yanmorin> maybe it's a icon-cache problem... in .local?
[19:28] <mongy> yanmorin, maybe install gnome-tweak-tool and set your icon theme again
[19:29] <yanmorin> mongy, I will try that, but what is the default icon theme?
[19:29] <Seveas> ubuntu mono dark
[19:29] <mongy> yanmorin, or maybe reinstall ubuntu-mono
[19:30] <yanmorin> wow, there is a lot of package with gnome-tweek-tool..
[19:30] <mongy> aye :(
[19:31] <Kal_Zakath> do you know GPL apps dedicateds to train drivers (engineers end such...) ??
[19:31] <yanmorin> oh, now I have all  icons.. maybe it was in gnome-icon-theme-full (not installed)
[19:31] <yanmorin> or gnome-themes-standard
[19:34] <yanmorin> mongy thanks, now it looks like that: http://yansanmo.progysm.com/photos/ps/linux/ubuntu-oneiric-withicon-gnome-tweak-tool.png  (just by installing the package)
[19:34] <Aka> merry christamahanikwansika everyone
[19:37] <ubuntu> good day all
[19:37] <Seveas> happy saturday Aka
[19:38] <ubuntu> just trying out this version of ubuntu i think i like it
[19:41] <Aka> doh I was gonna ask him which version he was liking
[19:41] <Aka> ok well I guess I'm gonna go I've got some studying to do before I go rock it on BF3
[19:42] <Aka> later folks
[19:46] <idsme> helle everybody
[19:47] <idsme> i have a quistion about installing a adaptec raid card into ubuntu, it;s only voor suse and red hat
[19:47] <idsme> anyone can help me?
[19:56] <kasii> hi all
[19:57] <kasii> am asking for any documentation concern java programming
[19:58] <Seveas> kasii, try #java
[19:58] <kasii> am new in java programming
[19:59] <kasii> so would you help me
[19:59] <Seveas> no
[19:59] <Seveas> this channel is for ubuntu support, not java help
[19:59] <mang0> !ot | kasii
[19:59] <kasii> cause it took much time for me to understand the program
[19:59] <mang0> kasii: Type "/join #java"
[19:59] <kasii> okay let me join
[20:00] <kasii> in java
[20:00] <Kal_Zakath_> google ?
[20:00] <Kal_Zakath_> (just in case...)
[20:01] <dextre009> hi
[20:02] <dextre009> can anyone help me out with vim editor please?
[20:03] <Hero> Hello there
[20:03] <mang0> kasii: If you want to join #java channel, type this in a message to us, and press send: /join ##java
[20:04] <kasii> i didnt get you mango
[20:05] <mongy> dextre009, how?
[20:06] <dextre009> I want to turn on syntax highlighting, but just for specific file types
[20:06] <Kal_Zakath_> no possible
[20:06] <dextre009> for example just for .java files
[20:07] <Kal_Zakath_> ubuntu is an OS for gays, and gays don't want syntax highlighting
[20:07] <dextre009> it is not possible?
[20:07] <Kal_Zakath_> not unless you are gay
[20:08] <tonesfrommars> dextre009: head over to #vim, they'll help you there.
[20:08] <philpem> dextre009, :set syntax on
[20:08] <trism> philpem: I haven't looked to closely, but if you notice, doc/developer is already built in the ubuntu package, so you make want to pre-build it before uploading since it won't be able to fetch that file when building on launchpad
[20:08] <tonesfrommars> I don't know for sure if that's possible.
[20:08] <tonesfrommars> Chances are it is, but you'll have to set up vim.rc to make it happen
[20:08] <dr_willis> the default vim used to be 'vim tiny' you need the vim full package for syntax hightlighting to work.
[20:09] <philpem> dextre009, sorry. got that wrong. looking up my vimrc
[20:09] <dextre009> philpem, I did that, but now I get syntax highlighting in .conf files too, which is really annoying
[20:09] <philpem> dextre009, sounds like you want to make it per-file then?
[20:09] <dr_willis> Theres ways to put comments in specific files to set vim settings for that file dextre009  i belive.
[20:09] <philpem> for that you need an autocmd in your vimrc
[20:09] <Seveas> decoder, it's possible: au filetype java :syntax on
[20:09] <Seveas> dextre009*
[20:10] <Kal_Zakath_> uselees
[20:10] <philpem> dextre009, to disable syntax highlighting for conf files, :autocmd conf syntax off
[20:10] <dextre009> Seveas, should I put that in my ~/.vimrc ?
[20:10] <Seveas> dextre009, yes.
[20:10] <Kal_Zakath_> nope
[20:10] <Kal_Zakath_> in ~/.gay
[20:10] <Spacewalker> ?
[20:10] <philpem> dextre009, try again... autocmd FileType conf :syntax off
[20:11] <philpem> will disable syntax-hilight for conf files
[20:11] <philpem> dextre009, what Seveas said will enable it only for java files
[20:11] <tonesfrommars> dextre009: look up *:syn-files*
[20:11] <tonesfrommars> apparently you can specify highlighting per filetype.
[20:11] <philpem> trism, I figured that'd be one option
[20:11] <Spacewalker> Kal_Zakath_: As far as I know, syntax highlighting doesn't have anything to do with being gay.
[20:12] <Kal_Zakath_> of course it does
[20:12] <philpem> trism, what I'd like to know is which commands the gutenprint dev team use to make the release tarballs from CVS
[20:12] <Seveas> Spacewalker, depends on the colorscheme you use. A gay friend of mine definitely has a matching colorscheme :-)
[20:12] <philpem> trism, if I had a rel tarball it'd presumably have the docs prebuilt, thus making it far easier to package
[20:12] <Kal_Zakath_> Seveas: +1
[20:12] <Seveas> philpem, I'd guess "make release"
[20:13] <Auriga> I have a USB floppy drive plugged in which the system sees, but I cannot access the disk... Any ideas?
[20:13] <philpem> Seveas, "make: *** No rule to make target `release'. Stop."
[20:14] <Seveas> philpem, then read their docs :-)
[20:14] <dextre009> I just tried 'au filetype java syntax on' & 'autocmd FileType conf :syntax off' but both dont work
[20:14] <philpem> Seveas, they basically say "read the automake documentation"
[20:15] <Seveas> heh
[20:15] <dr_willis> Auriga:  try mounting it by hand?
[20:15] <Seveas> philpem, make dit
[20:15] <Seveas> philpem, make dist
[20:15] <Sporty> type /server -m irc.anabolnet.org we are searching for irc operators and helpers to make the network bigger.
[20:16] <philpem> Seveas, ah ha!
[20:16]  * philpem updates his HOWTO
[20:16] <Seveas> philpem, autotools projects always(*) use 'make dist' to make tarballs
[20:16] <Seveas> ☼for values of always
[20:16] <angelo236> hi guys
[20:16] <Seveas> hello angelo236
[20:17] <trism> or better yet, make distcheck
[20:17] <Seveas> !ops | Sporty is spamming
[20:17] <Sporty> o_O
[20:17] <Kal_Zakath_> lol
[20:17] <philpem> Seveas, thanks for that -- it's been ages since I did any real work with an autotools project
[20:17] <ellie> open irc.gamesurge.net
[20:18] <Seveas> mneptok, thanks
[20:18] <Kal_Zakath_> Sporty was my gay friend
[20:18] <angelo236> chat room doesnt look busy..
[20:18] <Kal_Zakath_> angelo236: as it's Xmas it's quite logical
[20:18] <Seveas> angelo236, that's a good thing. Means there are not that many people who have problems with ubuntu :)
[20:18] <mneptok> Seveas: summoned, i come with rimmed halo of fury
[20:18] <Seveas> Kal_Zakath_, it's not christmas yet for europe/america
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> well I'm in europe
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> It's Xmas's eve
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> computers are shut down
[20:19] <angelo236> seveas, thats good. merry christmass eve or christmas to you guys.
[20:19] <Seveas> you're not in europe, you're in belgium. We don't consider that part of europe anymore ;)
[20:19] <Kal_Zakath_> Seveas: wtf ?
[20:20] <Kal_Zakath_> tell me why ? :)
[20:20] <Kal_Zakath_> we are the heart of europe
[20:20] <G4MM1NG3R> So...
[20:20] <Seveas> heh, you're not even the lower intestines of europe :P
[20:20] <Kal_Zakath_> european institutions are in brussels
[20:20] <Seveas> hello G4MM1NG3R
[20:20] <G4MM1NG3R> Hello
[20:20] <kkuno> no they are in rome
[20:21] <G4MM1NG3R> What's this all about...
[20:21] <Kal_Zakath_> kkuno ? Rome ??? LOOOL
[20:21]  * mneptok ignites said rimmed fury halo as only a self-righteous American can, and forces the conversation de La Belgique en canal #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <Kal_Zakath_> there is an old and an older perv in Rome, that's all
[20:21] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, usually it's about ubuntu support.  It says I must specify the filesystem type...
[20:23] <Seveas> mneptok, hey, I see a spammer in need of cluebatting
[20:23] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: if meant seriously, that is entirely uncalled for :(
[20:23] <angelo236> G4MM1NG3R, welcome to my world
[20:23] <Seveas> can you do the honors?
[20:23] <Kal_Zakath_> huhu
[20:23] <Auriga> dr_willis, Is there a switch for that?
[20:23] <G4MM1NG3R> Lovely
[20:24] <G4MM1NG3R> Any IRC commands I should know about?
[20:24] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, /ignore is useful to know
[20:24] <hooman> hi
[20:24] <Seveas> as is /join #freenode :)
[20:24] <Seveas> hello hooman
[20:24] <kkuno> !list is another useful commmand
[20:24] <G4MM1NG3R> How to use that...?
[20:24] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: you are wlecome to defend Belgian honor in #ubuntu-offtopic. Seveas will probably continue to incite you there, as he's an obstinate (but loveable) Dutchman. but not here.
[20:24] <G4MM1NG3R> Iḿ already in freenode I think..
[20:25] <Seveas> kkuno, !list doesn't really work here. This is not a warez channel :)
[20:25] <G4MM1NG3R> (Sorry for my foolishness, first time on IRC =3=)
[20:25] <hooman> Seveas,,,hello
[20:25] <angelo236> i wish i could help, but im learning at the moment, ill just use google for commands
[20:25] <G4MM1NG3R> Okay, Iĺl give that a try too
[20:25] <G4MM1NG3R> Buh, using a proxy atm... browser too slow
[20:25] <Kal_Zakath_> HAHAHA a dutch
[20:26] <hooman>  :D
[20:26] <angelo236> i got here using this website.. like most of a guide or intro to irc http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/internet-relay-chat
[20:26] <Kal_Zakath_> dutch are shit
[20:26] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: enough!
[20:26] <Kal_Zakath_> (waits for a KB)
[20:26] <G4MM1NG3R> Talking about me Kal?
[20:26] <mneptok> Kal_Zakath_: it's Christmas. why make me?
[20:27] <Kal_Zakath_> because it is !
[20:27] <Kal_Zakath_> you have never seen me before
[20:27] <hooman> Please do not silence girls :p
[20:27] <G4MM1NG3R> A girl on the internet?
[20:27] <angelo236> touche.
[20:27] <G4MM1NG3R> Naa... lets not go there again...
[20:27] <G4MM1NG3R> Itś cliche
[20:27] <Seveas> hooman, mneptok's stunning looks silence all women...
[20:28] <Kal_Zakath_> let's take a look to this offtopic chan
[20:28] <sedeki> Having problems with my built in soundcard. When inserting headphones, the speakers wont mute. Im using "snd-hda-intel" and ACL888 (laptop LG X110)
[20:29] <angelo236> anybody here a new user of ubuntu?
[20:29] <Seveas> sedeki, try 'alsamixer', see if you have a control called 'headphone sense'. If you do, enable it.
[20:29] <hooman> Seveas...yes ;)
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> How many of my information is open to you guys to see through IRC actually?
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> much*
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> Derp... curse my sleeping brain
[20:29] <Seveas> --- [G4MM1NG3R]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>: hel000
[20:29] <no-name-> I get 3 temps and 1 fan speed on speedfan on windows but only 1 temp and 0 fan speeds on sensors on ubuntu... anyway I can get those other temps and that fanspeed on ubuntu?
[20:29] <Seveas> that
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> Really?
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> Damn
[20:29] <G4MM1NG3R> So far using proxy on Ubuntu
[20:29] <angelo236> yes really
[20:30] <sedeki> Seveas, i only have "auto-mute mode" and it is enabled
[20:30] <hooman> Seveas..This is what Rome
[20:30] <angelo236> :)
[20:30] <philpem> sedeki, what motherboard?
[20:30] <sedeki> philpem, how can i see that?
[20:30] <philpem> sedeki, try: sudo dmidecode | less
[20:31] <philpem> DMIDecode dumps the DMI Data Table from the BIOS and displays it; less allows you to move up and down through the output
[20:31] <sedeki> American Megatrends Inc., version EN021IL1.10P
[20:31] <Seveas> that's just the bios, not the motherboard
[20:31] <sedeki> bios
[20:31] <sedeki> sorry.
[20:31] <philpem> what you're looking for is "Product Name" under the "System Information" tag
[20:31] <philpem> and also "Manufacturer"
[20:32] <philpem> e.g. I have: Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
[20:32] <philpem> System Information
[20:32] <philpem>         Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
[20:32] <philpem>         Product Name: Z68AP-D3
[20:32] <FloodBot1> philpem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <G4MM1NG3R> Anyway for me to use a proxy for IRC as well?
[20:32] <Resistance> G4MM1NG3R:  if its an open proxy, probably not
[20:32] <hooman> Seveas..¿¿¿¿¿
[20:32] <Resistance> G4MM1NG3R:  because most nets block open proxys
[20:32] <philpem> oh fun, I got told off by a bot :P   I'll consider myself warned :)
[20:33] <sedeki> Base board information?
[20:33] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, or just get a cloak, then we can't see your hostname either
[20:33] <sedeki> System information
[20:33] <G4MM1NG3R> How do I get a cloak...?
[20:33] <philpem> sedeki, how about we try another way?
[20:33] <DemonWitch> hey
[20:33] <DemonWitch> does ubuntu use a custom kernel?
[20:33] <tensorpudding> G4MM1NG3R, this is not the place to ask
[20:33] <philpem> sedeki, sudo dmidecode > /tmp/dmi-info
[20:33] <xangua> !cloak | G4MM1NG3R
[20:33] <DemonWitch> or the vanilla linux kernel
[20:33] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, yes
[20:33] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, they patch the kernel
[20:33] <angelo236> hey guys, any linux/ubuntu sites you can recommend for me? so i can do further reading on linux, cuz im new do this. and as of right now im loving it
[20:33] <G4MM1NG3R> Ok, thanks
[20:34] <philpem> sedeki, then open that file (/tmp/dmi-info) in a text editor and copy it into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:34] <sedeki> philpem, fine, ill post it wait
[20:34] <Kal_Zakath_> ik ben droost
[20:34] <Resistance> DemonWitch:  probably a patched kernel
[20:34] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, check out the source packages
[20:34] <{--__--}> why is my laptop slowing down?
[20:34] <Seveas> sedeki, sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-manufacturer; sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name
[20:34] <DemonWitch> tensorpudding: i want to use a realtime. lowlatency kernel. does ubuntu have one for that already compiled?
[20:34] <Seveas> that gives you just the motherboard info :)
[20:34] <Resistance> {--__--}:  define "slowing down:
[20:34] <{--__--}> it has been like that for 2 days, there is  a delay when i am typing letters and when i am playing music too
[20:34] <Resistance> ;P
[20:34] <philpem> Seveas, heh, I'm going to have to hang out in here more often -- that's a neat trick!
[20:34] <{--__--}> like it gets chopped a bit
[20:34] <Resistance> {--__--}:  stop running so many things at once maybe :P
[20:34] <tensorpudding> DemonWitch, probably not
[20:35] <{--__--}> i got mozilla openoffice and movieplayer
[20:35] <philpem> sedeki, forget what I just said, do what Seveas suggested :)
[20:35] <{--__--}> and qbittorrent hmm
[20:35] <Seveas> {--__--}, qbittorrent may be hogging all your disk io. Do fewer illegal downloads :P
[20:35] <sedeki> philpem, http://paste.ubuntu.com/781455/
[20:35] <{--__--}> ah#
[20:35] <{--__--}> i see, thanks
[20:36] <philpem> sedeki, you have an LG X110-G.A7HBV
[20:36] <{--__--}> it might be that..
[20:36] <philpem> sedeki, 10.2in screen netbook?
[20:36] <sedeki> yes
[20:37] <simchapter_> wheneveri open a new terminal, i have to manually source .bash_profile. for some reason, it's not being automatically reloaded. Anyone know why this might happen or know how to debug such a problem?
[20:37] <philpem> right. first warning -- the Intel HDA sound driver (which is what you're probably using) is a bit of a dog.
[20:37] <philpem> one of the settings is the 'jack configuration'.
[20:37] <Seveas> simchapter_, .bash_profile is only loaded when logging in. You'll want to add your customizations to ~/.bashrc instead
[20:37] <philpem> or rather the 'board model' as alsa calls it
[20:38] <sedeki> philpem, do you mean a flag to the module in alsa_base.conf?
[20:38] <philpem> sedeki, yes. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:38] <Amaroks> everytime I boot up and login, the topmenu disappear and so left side launcher, I usually solve it by running unity --reset
[20:38] <no-name-> I get 3 temps and 1 fan speed on speedfan (windows) but 1 temp and no fan speed on sensors (ubuntu)... I tried sensors-detect but it didn't help
[20:38] <Amaroks> any solution to fix this permanently ?
[20:38] <sedeki> philpem, i looked at that earlier today
[20:39] <xangua> Amaroks: does it dissapears or never load¿
[20:39] <sedeki> philpem, anything particularly interesting?
[20:39] <philpem> sedeki, look at the list of HD-Audio model IDs for the ALC888, and try them all in turn is really all I can suggest :(
[20:40] <sedeki> philpem, what about the jack configuration?
[20:40] <simchapter_> Seveas: ic. thanks!
[20:40] <philpem> sedeki, that's what i was talking about -- card model ('model' parameter to the module) is the jack configuration
[20:40] <philpem> what you're telling the module is "I have this sound card, don't try and guess, this is how you should be talking to the CODEC chip."
[20:41] <G4MM1NG3R> Ok...
[20:41] <Amaroks> xangua probably never loads
[20:41] <philpem> there's no love lost between me and the Intel HDA front end... even the Analog Devices codecs are a pig.
[20:42] <philpem> in the end I gave up and bought a Creative Xfi Titanium and disabled the onboard Azalea audio codec.
[20:42] <xangua> Amaroks: make sure the unity plugin is enabled on compiz settings preferences
[20:42] <dextre> Seveas, philpem, I got help in #vim and we solved the problem -> :au FileType conf set syntax=OFF
[20:42] <philpem> dextre, great!
[20:42] <sedeki> philpem, ah i see. how about the enable=1 flag?
[20:42] <philpem> dextre, "set nosyntax" will probably do the same thing as syntax=OFF
[20:42] <Amaroks> whcih? Unity Plugin or Unity Plugin Rotated?
[20:42] <dextre> thank you for helping me :)
[20:42] <sedeki> is it relevant at all?
[20:43] <sedeki> also, do i need to reboot for each try?
[20:43] <philpem> sedeki, no, you can do 'rmmod snd-intel-hda; modprobe snd-intel-hda model=xyz'
[20:43] <philpem> need sudo obviously.. :)
[20:44] <G4MM1NG3R> One more time, what information could you see on me?
[20:44] <philpem> if it whines, try: sudo killall -9 pulseaudio; sudo modprobe -r snd-intel-hda; sudo modprobe snd-intel-hda model=xyz
[20:44] <Guest82085> helloy!!!
[20:44] <philpem> replace 'xyz' with the modelid you want to try
[20:44] <Amaroks> xangua : whcih? Unity Plugin or Unity Plugin Rotated?
[20:44] <sedeki> thank you
[20:45] <kor> I upgraded to 11.10 and it wont let me login to my main user acct and the guest session is locked down.
[20:45] <xangua> Amaroks: i only know there is a 'unity plugin'
[20:45] <Guest82085> i want help!
[20:45] <kor> Wont load recovery session either or open a terminal
[20:45] <Seveas> hello Guest82085. If you tell us what you need help with, we may even be able to help you!
[20:46] <philpem> sedeki, count to ten after you do that, it'll take a minute for PulseAudio to restart
[20:46] <G4MM1NG3R> What information can you guys see about me through IRC?
[20:46] <sedeki> okay
[20:46] <philpem> I wouldn't try the 6-channel ones, but the 'stereo' ones will be worth trying
[20:46] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, same as before :)
[20:46] <G4MM1NG3R> Gah
[20:46] <G4MM1NG3R> Iḿ so good at this =_='
[20:47] <DemonWitch> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word meaning "I can't install Gentoo".
[20:48] <no_gravity> Hello! What are the main differences between debian and ubuntu these days?
[20:48] <xangua> !ot | no_gravity
[20:48] <Seveas> no_gravity, unity versus sanity :)
[20:50] <no_gravity> Seveas: Well, i tried to cope with unity for a few days now and it doesnt work for me. Thats why i think about switching to debian.
[20:50] <G4MM1NG3R> Just wondering, if I set this cloak up right, will it work for every server I'll go on?
[20:50] <Seveas> G4MM1NG3R, no, just for freenode
[20:50] <xangua> G4MM1NG3R: no, and this is not the place /join #freenode
[20:51] <G4MM1NG3R> Ok, thanks
[20:51] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: just switch to a different desktop environment lxde is my personal choice
[20:51] <Resistance> no_gravity:  or KDE, its also a decent environment
[20:51] <Resistance> no_gravity:  or install gnome-shell
[20:51] <Resistance> and use the oldish-style GNOME interface :P
[20:51] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: ok, and why not switch do debian?
[20:52] <kor> No help for my problem?
[20:52] <kkuno> the ol' gnomerda, as we say in italy
[20:52] <no_gravity> Resistance: "apt-get install gnome-shell"?
[20:52] <Resistance> no_gravity:  i believe so
[20:52] <Resistance> no_gravity:  as for not switching ot Debian...
[20:52] <Resistance> no_gravity:  in comparison to Ubuntu, Debian's repositories are ancient
[20:52] <Resistance> and old
[20:52] <Resistance> and seldomly updated
[20:53] <Resistance> did i mention they're old?
[20:53] <Resistance> :P
[20:53] <no_gravity> Resistance: dont they have a "testing" version that is constantly updated?
[20:53] <xangua> !ot | Resistance no_gravity
[20:53] <Resistance> no_gravity:  y...es...?
[20:53] <Resistance> xangua:  you should read scrollbacks more
[20:53] <Resistance> xangua:  <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: ok, and why not switch do debian?
[20:53] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: if your just having trouble with unity there is still no reason to switch, just try out a couple environments and you will find one you like. Besides the fact debians repos are ancient, ubuntu is far more cutting edge than debian. It's great for servers but not always
[20:54] <kor> :|
[20:54] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: whats the difference between "up to date repos" and "cutting edge"?
[20:55] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: what is your problem your having?
[20:55] <dextre> no_gravity, just try debian and see if it fits you. But I think you don't need to switch just because you don't like unity
[20:56] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: the difference is about the same.
[20:56] <mongy> no_gravity, give xfce a go.  only an apt-get away
[20:56] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: ubuntu 11. nothing works. no task bar. no menus in applications, but on top of the screen.
[20:56] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: Unity failed me so I went back to lxde and it works perfect. I could have left but I am loyal and willing to find things that work.
[20:56] <no_gravity> mongy: why xfce and not gnome? i liked the interface of ubuntu 10.
[20:57] <mongy> no_gravity, why not.
[20:57] <xangua> !gnome2 | no_gravity
[20:57] <dextre> then get the lts version
[20:57] <no_gravity> and you cannot use gnome 3 in ubuntu?
[20:58] <usr13> no_gravity: mongy's advice is good.  Try xfce   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:58] <xangua> no_gravity: oneiric comes with gnome 3.2
[20:58] <no_gravity> You guys said the repos of Gnome are ancient. Can you give an example of what that means?
[20:58] <mongy> no_gravity, it's a good replacement for gnome2.
[20:58] <mongy> bit of customising and mine is sweet...
[20:59] <Seveas> no_gravity, you can use gnome 3 in ubuntu. It's not very good yet
[20:59] <Daekdroom> Seveas, Ubuntu uses GNOME 3 already.
[20:59] <Seveas> Daekdroom, that doesn't make it good :-)
[20:59] <mneptok> no_gravity: the GNOME2 interface you like is gone from GNOME. a switch to Debian will not help, they'll use GNOME3 everywhere eventually. if you want things to look and beahve more like GNOME2, XFCE and Xubuntu are you best option. it's what i did.
[21:00] <mongy> ^ what he said
[21:00] <mongy> shave a few megs of resource too
[21:00] <mysteriousdarren> have any of you tried lubuntu? thoughts?
[21:00] <no_gravity> mneptok: debian does not come with gnome 2?
[21:00] <dextre> yes
[21:00] <mneptok> no_gravity: if it does today, it won't tomorrow.
[21:00] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, lxde is ok, but I find xfce the happy medium
[21:00] <usr13> mysteriousdarren: My thoughts are, go with xfce
[21:01] <semenko> hi all -- i'm having an issue with IP route on Oneric
[21:01] <philpem> usr13, same here -- I switched to Xfce + Xubuntu and I like it.
[21:01] <semenko> i'm getting the ever-googlable error: "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted"
[21:01] <philpem> used to use Xfce + Debian but had major problems with that (mainly inconsistent UI look-and-feel)
[21:01] <mneptok> no_gravity: GNOME2 will be wiped from the face of the earth in 5 years. probably far sooner. why start trying to backpedal? you WILL fail.
[21:01] <semenko> i've found a lot of references to it online, but not a clear solution
[21:01] <no_gravity> So how do I switch from Unity to xfce? "apt-get install xfce"?
[21:02] <usr13> philpem: route -n  #Take a look and see what is wrong.
[21:02] <mneptok> no_gravity: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:02] <semenko> i'm just trying to set a different MTU on a route [sudo ip route change default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0 mtu 1400]
[21:02] <mongy> There is the MATE fork of gnome2 but why bother when a mature xfce is ready and willing.
[21:02] <philpem> usr13, eh?
[21:02] <darth_tux71> hey anyone know how to use rfkill to turn a wifi on since i cant seem th get it on any other way
[21:02] <semenko> route -n seems fine
[21:02] <kasii> help in java
[21:03] <no_gravity> mneptok: and that will get rid of unity?
[21:03] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: I tried both kubuntu, xubuntu but nothing compared to lxde for older machines....its just light and it flies
[21:03] <mneptok> no_gravity: it will allow you to choose XFCE as an environment when you login.
[21:03] <mongy> mysteriousdarren,  for older ones yes, but there isnt very much in it between lxde and xfce
[21:03] <philpem> Quick question folks -- the file-open and file-save dialogs in LibreOffice don't match up with the rest of XFCE. I seem to recall there was an easy fix for this (install a package and change a Libreoffice setting). Can anyone remember the magic incantation?
[21:03] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, not that I saw anyway.. when looking at ram and cpu usage.
[21:03] <mneptok> no_gravity: all the Unity and GNOME bits are still on the disk, until you remove the ubuntu-desktop package. and i would wait a week to do that.
[21:04] <philpem> What I want is the GTK-style save window like this: http://images.brighthub.com/0e/8/0e8b28b6b6fabe7988b714a705c91840fa75a4de_large.jpg
[21:04] <semenko> sorry, the RNETLINK Error is : RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory
[21:04] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: so how do you install lxde? "apt-get install lxde"?
[21:04] <philpem> what I'm getting is a very plain one with a list of directories and files in one list.
[21:04] <semenko> [not "Operation not permitted", that was sans sudo]
[21:05] <xangua> sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gtk philpem
[21:05] <Seveas> philpem, openoffice doesn't use any standard widget.
[21:05] <philpem> thanks, xangua
[21:05] <usr13> philpem: What does  route -n   say?  (See if you have a problem with your default GW like you said you do.)
[21:05] <Seveas> xangua, ooh... hmm, I need to try that, thanks
[21:05] <Seveas> it might make libreoffice less fugly :)
[21:06] <philpem> usr13, I didn't mention any issues with default GW...
[21:06] <semenko> route -n says
[21:06] <semenko> (he's off by one, he means semenko)
[21:06] <usr13> Oh sorry, that was for semenko   Wrong nic
[21:06] <semenko> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[21:06] <philpem> usr13, np :)
[21:06] <semenko> <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[21:06] <semenko> <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 virbr0
[21:06] <semenko> (sorry, header was:)
[21:06] <semenko> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[21:06] <usr13> semenko: use pastebinit
[21:06] <semenko> yeah
[21:06] <usr13> semenko: route -n | pastebinit
[21:07] <semenko> nifty.
[21:07] <semenko> http://pastebin.com/PYHuCKfH
[21:08] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core lubuntu-icon-theme lubuntu-restricted-extras does the whole deal
[21:08] <deli> how to play hd video files in ubuntu(11.10) without lag?
[21:08] <semenko> the machine handles its routing fine. i'm just trying to change the default route MTU explicitly to deal with some jumbo frames issues
[21:09] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, doesn't lubuntu-desktop do it all?
[21:09] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: one obvious advantage of debian is that they dont have this whole "sudo this, sudo that" madness.
[21:09] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: thanks for the info how to install lxde.
[21:09] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: true but restricted extras does more:) most ppl come back needing it
[21:09] <usr13> semenko: What is the IP address of your router?
[21:10] <semenko> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:10] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, whats different about it than ubuntu/xubuntu-restricted?
[21:10] <semenko> though i don't understand how that'd impact me changing the mtu
[21:10] <angelo236> 3quit
[21:10] <mysteriousdarren> no_gravity: did u use debian alot before?
[21:10] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: i started with ubuntu when ubuntu 5 came out. before i used debian.
[21:10] <usr13> semenko: our trying to change the default route MTU ?
[21:10] <deli> how to play hd video files in ubuntu(11.10) without lag?
[21:10]  * philpem suspects he's used just about all the major distros at some point
[21:11] <semenko> usr13: i'm trying to change the default route MTU to something lower, it's a long story involving PMTUD & jumbo frames
[21:11] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop does it too, more apps tho that way
[21:11] <no_gravity> mysteriousdarren: i build my whole company based on debian. the switch to ubuntu came later.
[21:11] <semenko> either way, i should be able to set it to arbitrary values (e.g. MTU for the default route = 1000 or 1400, etc.)
[21:11] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: I have had things break by doing that, I think they are about the same
[21:11] <usr13> semenko: man ifconfig
[21:11] <semenko> on OS X, it's just sudo route change default -mtu 1500
[21:11] <semenko> that's not the route
[21:11] <semenko> that's the interface.
[21:12] <semenko> the issue is i want my interface to support jumbo frames internally
[21:12] <usr13> semenko: Yea.  So use ifconfig
[21:12] <semenko> no
[21:12] <usr13> no?
[21:12] <semenko> i don't think it supports route-specific MTUs
[21:12] <semenko> e.g.
[21:12] <kasii> java help
[21:12] <philpem> started out with an early redhat, then mandrake, SuSe for a while, slackware until ~V10, then fedora for a while, ubuntu from 8.x to 11.04 (didn't really use that), debian for a few months, now using Xubuntu
[21:12] <semenko> i want eth0 to send MTU 9000 frames to <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:12] <philpem> also use RHEL 6 at work.
[21:12] <usr13> semenko: I don't know then.  Ask someone else.
[21:12] <semenko> kk
[21:12] <semenko> is there a different channel for ubuntu support?
[21:13] <mysteriousdarren> mongy: nevermind they are the same
[21:13] <usr13> semenko: This is the channel for ubuntu support
[21:13] <Seveas> semenko, read the manpage for route, specifically the section about mss
[21:13] <Canadian1296> semenko: This is for ubuntu support… What do you need?
[21:13] <semenko> Seveas: so i guess the ip route command just doesn't work?
[21:14] <mongy> mysteriousdarren, I know they hold mostly the same stuff, but I also know to use the proper meta package for the distro
[21:14] <mongy> just in case.
[21:14] <Raliegh> Mmkay, this is probably a stupid question... But I'm currently installing Gnome on my server for a GUI. How exactly do I USE said GUI remotely?
[21:14] <usr13> semenko: sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000  #That is all I can suggest.
[21:14] <deli> how to play hd video files in ubuntu(11.10) without lag pls?
[21:14] <mysteriousdarren> mongy:good point
[21:14] <kasii> java help i need guys in xchat
[21:14] <usr13> semenko: Maybe someone else has a more information.
[21:14] <semenko> Canadian1296: I'm trying to set my MTU to 9000 for local frames over eth0 [<IP_ADDRESS>/24] but set my MTU at 1500 for things at the default route
[21:14] <Seveas> semenko, I've never heard of route specific mtu, don't know if lunix supports that at all
[21:14] <cartomen> !list
[21:15] <mongy> deli,  what gpu do you have ?
[21:15] <mysteriousdarren> Raliegh: SSH in probably or VNC works too
[21:15] <deli> mongy gpu???
[21:15] <semenko> Seveas: i think route probably supports it, though i'm confused as to why "ip route" fails with that vague error
[21:15] <mongy> deli, gfx card
[21:15] <deli> mongy how ddo i check?
[21:16] <mongy> Raliegh, I like Xnest
[21:16] <mongy> deli, lspci  | grep VGA
[21:16] <Raliegh> mysteriousdarren, I've been using SSH this whole time but I figured I wanted a GUI so I'm grabbing Gnome. I just need to know how to actually access it since... It's a server and all. The command line just gets a little daunting sometimes.
[21:16] <usr13> semenko: See: man route  and   man ifconfig
[21:17] <usr13> semenko: But I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
[21:17] <pnorman> Raliegh: You can do x11 over SSH
[21:17] <semenko> usr13: ?
[21:17] <deli> mongy VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:17] <kasii> javaaa
[21:17] <no_gravity> you guys dont celebrate xmas today?
[21:17] <pnorman> no_gravity: It's the 24th for significant portions of the world
[21:17] <mysteriousdarren> Raliegh: How easy do u want it? supereasy would be to install teamviewer, but most don't want that.
[21:18] <Raliegh> x11? Sorry, I've no idea what that is, haha. There's no remote application I need to download to access the GUI? And mysteriousdarren, that's not a bad idea... But I'd rather have direct access if possible. I do love Teamviewer though. :)
[21:18] <no_gravity> pnorman: yes. here in germany, thats the main xmas day.
[21:18] <Raliegh> Mmkay install complete.
[21:18] <usr13> pnorman: You can do X forwarding over ssh but it's not very efficient.   You should do vnc.
[21:18] <mongy> deli, well have you tried a different player then ?  gnome-mplayer, vlc, smplayer, it can make a big difference.  using a lighter desktop as well helps as unity 3D might be a little tough on an intel
[21:18] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> join  #ubuntu-es
[21:18] <deli> mongy, yes i tried, but all the same
[21:19] <mongy> deli,  are you using unity 3d?
[21:19] <deli> mongy 2d if i am correct
[21:20] <deli> mongy but i had this problem before upgrading to 11.10
[21:21] <Raliegh> Anyone have a good guide for properly installing VNC? I see a lot peppered around but a lot of them just say "change this file and that file" without telling me where the files are located, lol.
[21:21] <mongy> deli, wish I had a solution but it's not something I have looked into much, as I have decent hardware.
[21:21] <xangua> !vnc | Raliegh
[21:22] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install x11vnc xtightvnc
[21:22] <mongy> +! for freenx.
[21:22] <mongy> +1 even
[21:22] <deli> mongy too bad, thanks anyway though
[21:22] <no_gravity> Ok, I started "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"... 335 MB wow...
[21:22] <THEROOT> hi here
[21:23] <mongy> no_gravity, try with --no-install-recommends if you dont want that much
[21:23] <THEROOT> anyone can help me to add a domain to bind9?
[21:23] <no_gravity> mongy: but then i dont know what i will miss...
[21:23] <mongy> no_gravity, nothing that will stop it working.
[21:24] <mongy> no_gravity, with each DE they have their own lighter versions of apps to go with...
[21:24] <mysteriousdarren> Raliegh: the bot said it best.
[21:24] <no_gravity> mongy: then why do they recommend that stuff?
[21:24] <mongy> no_gravity, the metapackage is to install an environment the same as you would get a fresh install.
[21:24] <Raliegh> The bot is quite sexy.
[21:25] <no_gravity> mongy: well, too late. i already started it.
[21:25] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install x11vnc xtightvncviewer  #Other one was typo. There are several options  tightvncserver and x11vnc   are pretty good and easy.
[21:25] <mongy> no_gravity, won't hurt it...
[21:25] <THEROOT> anyone can help me to add a domain to bind9?
[21:26] <no_gravity> Raliegh: on the server, i install vnc with this one line: apt-get install tightvncserver && vncpasswd && tightvncserver
[21:26] <no_gravity> Raliegh: and on the client i just type "vinagre x.x.x.x:1". where x.x.x.x is the ip of the server.
[21:27] <no_gravity> Raliegh: and boom! im connected :) easy
[21:27] <Oer> THEROOT, did you read the manual https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html
[21:28] <no_gravity> mongy: hmm.. it asks me to select the display manager.
[21:28] <no_gravity> lightdm or lxdm
[21:28] <Seveas> no_gravity, you may want to try remmina instead of vinagre if you need to connect to many remote hosts
[21:28] <no_gravity> how do i knoe?
[21:28] <mongy> no_gravity, xfce and unity/gnome3 use lightdm
[21:28] <Oer> THEROOT, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[21:28] <no_gravity> mongy: ok, i try it.
[21:29] <mongy> no_gravity,  I would guess lubuntu uses same seeing as its an official variant now
[21:29] <no_gravity> mongy: i see it installing weird stuff like chrome-browser...
[21:29] <mongy> no_gravity, yup.  comes with lubuntu
[21:29] <no_gravity> mongy: and mplayer and what not... is this a display manager or an application suite???
[21:29] <mongy> no_gravity, see above about --no-install-recommends
[21:30] <no_gravity> mongy: yeah, too late :)
[21:30] <Oer> de desktop environment
[21:30] <mongy> no_gravity, could have stopped it downloading.
[21:30] <mongy> no_gravity, too late now thought
[21:30] <mang0> How can I see what version wine is?
[21:30] <no_gravity> mongy: well, its on my "play with new things" machine, not on my main machine. so its fine.
[21:31] <mongy> mang0, apt-cache policy wine
[21:31] <no_gravity> mongy: man wine
[21:31] <mang0> no_gravity: Just to let you know btw, I've sorted out a whole bash command to cd into a director, svn up, cd in to a different dir, svn up again, cd back into the first dir, make and make install \o/
[21:31] <mang0> and it works too
[21:31] <no_gravity> mang0: vine --version
[21:31] <mang0> mongy: Cheers.
[21:31] <mang0> no_gravity: K, ty
[21:32] <no_gravity> mang0: awesome!
[21:32] <Raliegh> Cool, I've got a sexy new desktop now... But every time I try and launch an application I get a silly "Could not fork" error. Da hell? x.x
[21:32] <mang0> no_gravity: yeah :D
[21:32] <no_gravity> mang0: what is svn? subversion?
[21:32] <mang0> Another thing: How do I upgrade wine, without removing my current wine programmes?
[21:32] <mang0> no_gravity: Svn is like GIT, but easier
[21:33] <mang0> :)
[21:33] <Resistance> mang0:  upgrade-in-place?
[21:33] <Resistance> mang0:  uninstalling wine wont erase your programs iirc
[21:33] <no_gravity> mang0: yeah, i know subversion. i just didnt know svn is the command for it.
[21:33] <mang0> no_gravity: Yeah, to update you use "svn up"
[21:33] <mang0> Resistance: So I can use sudo aptitude remove wine, and it'll keep my current programs?
[21:33] <mongy> mang0, your apps will still remain in .wine/
[21:34] <Resistance> mang0:  why do you need to remove wine?
[21:34] <no_gravity> ok, i installed lubuntu-desktop. now what? reboot?
[21:34] <mang0> mongy: mongy: Okay, thanks. Although I could do with a total cleanout of .wine anyway....
[21:34] <Resistance> mang0:  if you're installing a newer version, it'll just upgrade
[21:34] <mang0> Resistance: I don't, I need to upgrade
[21:34] <mang0> oh
[21:34] <mang0> so I can just do sudo apt-get install wine 1.3 or whatever, and it'll upgrade/
[21:34] <mongy> mang0, just upgrade.. no need to remove
[21:34] <Resistance> mang0:  depends on whether its in the repos, but generally yes
[21:35] <Resistance> brb
[21:35] <mongy> mang0, y es.
[21:35] <mang0> Resistance, mongy: Thanks :)
[21:35] <Raliegh> Ohh I see what it is. Holy shit Gnome uses a lot of memory.
[21:36] <mongy> Raliegh,  for a remote GUI you really could do to use lxde/xfce
[21:36] <Raliegh> Mmkay, how would I go about completely uninstalling Gnome and then finding a very, very low memory-intense GUI?
[21:37] <pangolin> Please mind the language
[21:37] <Raliegh> I basically just need a way to see the GUI for VLC for easier transcoding. Screw VLC scripting via command.
[21:37] <Raliegh> And who are you referring to pango?  Now i learned that "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends" might have been even better.
[21:38] <Raliegh> Oooh I see.
[21:39] <mongy> Raliegh, ffmpeg can be quite easy, depends what you want to do....
[21:39] <Raliegh> How would I uninstall it though grav? I used "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" for Gnome.
[21:39] <mongy> Raliegh, autoremove --purge
[21:39] <Raliegh> And I'm down to give it a try after I figure out how to properly remove everything Gnome. I'm at 100% memory useage, lol.
[21:40] <Raliegh> autoremove command not found: Besides, how does that know to remove just Gnome?
[21:40] <no_gravity> Raliegh: i think installing lubuntu-desktop and rebooting will disable gnome. im rebooting right now...
[21:40] <mongy> Raliegh, might have to sudo apt-get autoremove --purge (just like that) after it also to make sure
[21:40] <sparkiez> merry xmas to you all!
[21:40] <mongy> Raliegh, what kind of transcoding you need to do ?
[21:40] <no_gravity> HA! I rebooted and got the same sh*tty unity again!?!
[21:40] <MeanEYE> Anyone can suggest a nice theme for Ubuntu Oneiric ?
[21:41] <mongy> no_gravity, need to click the gear icon on login and choose different DE
[21:41] <mongy> MeanEYE, zukitwo-dark
[21:41] <Raliegh> mongy, I need to transcode a live ICecast stream in OGG and convert it to MPEG/MP3, and then push to a new Icecast mount. Also I got a segmentation fault with that previous command, haha.
[21:41] <MeanEYE> mongy, Support for both GTK2 and 3?
[21:41] <paulsomebody> Greetings, I need help with the stuck disc issue. Namely, I had unsuccessfully tried to burn a disc in Brasero, but some errors occured and the progress halted. I aborted the job, and now the tray won't come out, even after reboot. Braser log can be found here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/781500/
[21:41] <no_gravity> mongy: ok, lets see...
[21:41] <usr13> no_gravity: Did you install xubuntu-desktop?
[21:41] <mongy> MeanEYE, yes.
[21:42] <MeanEYE> mongy, thanks! :)
[21:42] <no_gravity> usr13: no, lubuntu-desktop
[21:42] <paulsomebody> MeanEYE: Check omgubuntu.co.uk, they feature themes and a whole lot more on the regular basis.
[21:42] <mongy> Raliegh, so, convert ogg to mp3?
[21:42] <no_gravity> mongy: i logged out. now i have an empty screen with nothing but the background image and the mouse cursor. now what?
[21:42] <mongy> MeanEYE, gnome-look.org and look at them based on rarting/downloads
[21:42] <Raliegh> Basically, but it's not a direct file...  I gotta remove Gnome before I work on all of that, haha.
[21:44] <Raliegh> 100% memory usage is no bueno.
[21:44] <usr13> Raliegh: What are you trying to do?
[21:44] <Raliegh> Remove Gnome entirely, since it eats up RAM like no other.
[21:44] <Raliegh> Just installed it using "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[21:44] <usr13> Raliegh: It won't if you don't use it.
[21:45] <no_gravity> Hmmm.. how do i get rid of that wallpaper? I dont want a wallpaper. Do I have to make an empty image for that?
[21:45] <MeanEYE> mongy, thanks! :) found them on deviant... they look really nice :)
[21:45] <usr13> Raliegh: how much ram do you have?
[21:45] <paulsomebody> Can anyone help with the stuck disc issue?
[21:45] <usr13> Raliegh: Try xfce
[21:45] <MeanEYE> Anyone having problems with sound indicator dying often?
[21:45] <Raliegh> Only a gig. Never needed any more since I did everything via SSH.
[21:45] <Raliegh> And I'm currently not logged into Gnome with VNC or anything, and I'm still at 100% usage.
[21:45] <usr13> Raliegh: A 1G of RAM should be enough.
[21:46] <Raliegh> xfce what usr13? Sorry, kind of a noob to most commands.
[21:46] <no_gravity> Oh, got it. "Fill screen with color"
[21:46] <Raliegh> Naw usr13, I'm still sitting at 100%, and it isn't moving at all. Not one bit.
[21:46] <usr13> Raliegh: Were are you seeing that you are using 100% of RAM?
[21:46] <MeanEYE> mongy, Any reason why people keep having different colors for GTK2 and GTK3 versions?
[21:46] <usr13> Raliegh: htop?
[21:46] <Raliegh> My control panels for my VPS.
[21:46] <mongy> Raliegh, are you sure its not just using it all for cache?
[21:47] <mongy> Raliegh, free -m
[21:47] <Raliegh> Hell if I know. I just know before I installed Gnome and VNC I was sitting around 30%.
[21:47] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/X9LBkcLF
[21:48] <Raliegh> That's the output of "free -m". Also, yay Pastebin is back.
[21:48] <no_gravity> Ok, thanks for the help and infos everybody! Im going to sleep now :)
[21:48] <Raliegh> BTW thanks for the help so far guys. ^^
[21:49] <valdin> est ce que il y as qulequn travail avec java de faire comilteur de pascale??
[21:49] <usr13> Raliegh: Your conclusion is flawed.  Try htop
[21:49] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install htop
[21:49] <Raliegh> Segmentation faults on everything apt-get
[21:49] <Aka> in need of a little help
[21:49] <Raliegh> Segmentation faultsts... 0%
[21:50] <Aka> for some reason I can't seem to surf the web on the wireless on a new install
[21:50] <Aka> I can ssh into other machines and use irc just fine but its like I'm not online when I try to use chromium or firefox
[21:50] <paulsomebody> !es | valdin
[21:51] <valdin> est ce que il y as qulequn travail avec java de faire comilteur de pascale??
[21:51] <Seveas> !fr | valdin
[21:51] <Raliegh> mongy, Just did a reboot though and that free up a looot of memory, so yay.
[21:51] <Raliegh> freed *
[21:52] <paulsomebody> Seveas: Well, those two languages are basically the same thing. :)
[21:52] <mongy> Raliegh, yeah I saw it was using all your ram..    what vps is it?
[21:52] <Seveas> Raliegh, heh, you're trying to run gnome with just one gb of memory and no swap? that's never gonna fly :)
[21:52] <paulsomebody> So, can anyone help with the stuck drive issue?
[21:52] <Raliegh> Did apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop but... It only removed one package that was 64KB? That can't be right.
[21:52] <Seveas> paulsomebody, you must be american :P
[21:52] <Raliegh> mongy, are you asking what my OS is or my VPS provider?
[21:52] <paulsomebody> Seveas: No, I am not. :) Not even remotely.
[21:53] <paulsomebody> Seveas: But I was pretty sure you would say that.
[21:53] <usr13> Raliegh:  apt-get -f install
[21:53] <Aka> oh is it hate on Americans day ? Cause if so I'd like in
[21:53] <Raliegh> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Nothin', haha.
[21:53] <Seveas> paulsomebody, try ejecting the drive *during* reboot
[21:54] <paulsomebody> Aka: Better help me with the stuck drive, since for me it is 'Hate Bugginess of Ubuntu Day'.
[21:54] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo
[21:54] <paulsomebody> Seveas: Ok, will try.
[21:54] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo  rm -rf /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[21:54] <Seveas> Raliegh, ubuntu-desktop is an empty package that just specifies dependencies. Try removing libgtk, that should get rid of pretty much all of gnome
[21:54] <Aka> LOL paulsomebody
[21:54] <Raliegh> usr13 Same thing of course. I run everything as root, so sudo makes no diff.
[21:55] <Aka> usually I don't have any issues but I just did an update and well it hasn't been the same since
[21:55] <Raliegh> K, ran that remove command (even though I'm not sure what it did except remove anything with extension .bin).
[21:55] <Aka> I'm thinking about doing a dban and re-install
[21:55] <Seveas> why dban?
[21:55] <usr13> Raliegh: sudo apt-get install htop
[21:55] <Aka> Seveas, honestly I just like to start with a completely clean HDD
[21:55] <Aka> overkill I know
[21:55] <peterrus> hey people, I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and now my system wont boot, I chrooted into into it and when i try to do a dpkg-reconfigure -a it starts fixing a lot of packages so something there must went wrong, I get alot of 'too many levels of symbolics links' the /var/run is for example loop-linked with /run with point to /var/run again, but there are a lot more of those symlink loops
[21:56] <peterrus> i really want my server to survive XD
[21:56] <Raliegh> Oh I coulda done that after reboot, didn't know that is what you were getting at. usr13, I've got it installed but my memory is freed now after my reboot. Just trying to uninstall Gnome entirely and properly before I go researching ffmpeg (I think it was)
[21:56] <Seveas> peterrus, in the case of /var/run vs /run: /run should be a directory, /var/run a symlink to it
[21:57] <fuudruukers> gstreamer*
[21:57] <usr13> Raliegh: Ok
[21:57] <Seveas> peterrus, what are the others?
[21:57] <_cb> when ubuntu 11.10 goes to sleep I have to power off to get it back. How do I fix?
[21:57] <Marezz> Is it possible to play native games with decent framerate if I use AMD OSS driver?
[21:57] <usr13> _cb: How much RAM do you have?
[21:57] <peterrus> Seveas: hmm I would have to reboot to that chroot, but dpkg-reconfigure doesnt always specificly say which
[21:57] <Seveas> _cb, get hardware on which linux can du suspend (or hibernate if you are using that)
[21:58] <Aka> hmm
[21:58] <Raliegh> usr13 Do you have any idea why when I used "apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop" it only removed on package that was 61.4kb?
[21:58] <Aka> looks like I'm not the only one having issues after that last update
[21:58] <Raliegh> I know for a fact it didn't properly dispose of Gnome.
[21:58] <Seveas> peterrus, /run vs /var/run should solve quite a few of them I'd say. Try figuring out the other ones.
[21:58] <peterrus> Raliegh: shouldnt you do apt-get --purge remove ?
[21:58] <_cb> usr13 looks as if 1 gig
[21:59] <mongy> Raliegh, sometimes you have to remove stuff manually..
[21:59] <Seveas> Raliegh, ubuntu-desktop is an empty package that just specifies dependencies. Try removing libgtk, that should get rid of pretty much all of gnome
[21:59] <usr13> Raliegh: Do you have X server running?
[21:59] <bastidrazor> Raliegh: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that tells it what other packages are needed to have the desktop. you can't remove Ubuntu that way.
[21:59] <_cb> Seveas never had a problem with Ubuntu 9.04
[21:59] <mongy> Raliegh, as seveas says....
[21:59] <usr13> _cb: What size is your swap partition?
[21:59] <peterrus> Seveas: yes but as its looped I wouldn't have the original contents of the /run directory right?
[21:59] <Raliegh> So apt-get --purge remove libgtk?
[21:59] <usr13> _cb: "Looks as if"?  You don't know?   free
[21:59] <Seveas> peterrus, /run is for ephemeral files anyway.
[21:59] <Raliegh> And that won't effect any other packages? x.x
[21:59] <Aka> brb I need to restart my box again :(
[22:00] <peterrus> Raliegh: or you might try sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-*
[22:00] <Raliegh> E: Unable to locate package libgtk   <--- result
[22:00] <peterrus> maybe without the -
[22:00] <mongy> Raliegh, use autoremove --purge
[22:00] <Seveas> peterrus, if things still fail, apt-get install --reinstall [failing things here]
[22:01] <Raliegh> peterrus, that freed 155MB, but I'm pretty sure gnome installed like 1.5GB
[22:01] <bobdobbs> I've got firefox9 running on ubuntu 10.10, 64bit version. I can't seem to get flash working. I have the flash library installed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
[22:01] <Raliegh> Will try mongy after current completion... But I'm still confused as to how that command would know to remove gnome?
[22:01] <Raliegh> And just gnome?
[22:01] <peterrus> Raliegh: and now do apt-get autoremove?
[22:01] <peterrus> with --purge preferably
[22:01] <Raliegh> Yep will do when it finishes
[22:02] <bastidrazor> !purekde | Raliegh ..this will somewhat do you want you want.
[22:02] <Raliegh> That frees up another 288MB. Not the full installation but eh, it's good enough. Whatever, lol.
[22:02] <_cb> usr13 any tips as to how I find my partition size?
[22:03] <peterrus> I wonder if the looped symlibnks have something to do with upgrading in a chroot
[22:03] <peterrus> i needed to upgrade because only 11.10 seems to have netdrivers for my card
[22:03] <Seveas> peterrus, one package I would reinstall after recreating /run is udev
[22:03] <mongy> Raliegh, just go through it like autoremove --purge gnome* libgtk*
[22:03] <peterrus> ok
[22:03] <_cb> usr13 free m reports 1017712 total
[22:04] <Raliegh> Ahhh, 755MB removed with that. Thanks, I'm pretty sure that's all of it. ^^
[22:05] <peterrus> Raliegh: or you could just install ubuntu server ;)
[22:06] <nickel> how may I connect an external monitor to my laptop? ubuntu 11 seems to have some issues there..
[22:06] <Raliegh> peterrus Do what? I normally do everything by SSH to my server. "Ubuntu server" is kind of a broad name... What is it? Lol.
[22:07] <Aka> blech
[22:07] <peterrus> Raliegh: its ubuntu minus the desktop environment
[22:07] <Aka> my network connection is still running soooo slow that the dpkg --configuration -a is taking forever
[22:07] <Raliegh> Oh that's what I've already got, lol. At least I'm pretty sure, since I use Putty to throw commands and whatnot.
[22:08] <Aka> well at least I can use 'ssh' to do what I need for work :(
[22:08] <peterrus> Raliegh: nope you have the regular ubuntu
[22:08] <Raliegh> Works fine so far... I just can't figure out proper code to setup VLC for live transcoding, so I tried to get a GUI up to do it that way... But that didn't work, haha. I just ultimately need to figure out a proper way to do live Icecast transcoding. x.x
[22:08] <peterrus> ubuntu server is a downloadable iso
[22:08] <mystdarren> Raliegh: did you figure your your VNC thing?
[22:08] <paulsomebody> Hello, everyone.
[22:08] <peterrus> this has nothing to do with ssh ;)
[22:09] <paulsomebody> Trying to eject it while rebooting did not work.
[22:09] <Aka> LOL
[22:09] <paulsomebody> Plus, now I have another problem.
[22:09] <paulsomebody> Bigger problem.
[22:09] <Aka> not for you
[22:09] <Aka> but for me it does
[22:09] <Aka> ;)
[22:09] <Raliegh> mystdarren, Yeah, got VNC installed along with GNOME, but that took up a ridiculous amount of RAM to where my system was unuseable so... GUI is not going down for me, lol.
[22:09] <usr13> _cb:  grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo  ; sudo fdisk -l |grep swap | pastebinit sys-info   #And send us resulting URL.  We will look and see.
[22:09] <Raliegh> It looked pretty during the time I could see it though. :D
[22:09] <paulsomebody> I cannot log with my credentials.
[22:09] <mystdarren> Raliegh: use lxde :)
[22:09] <nickel> the second monitor works just fine with the ubuntu 11 live boot from a pen-drive, but after the install to HD, it just remains blank :\
[22:09] <paulsomebody> I am absolutely sure that they are all right.
[22:10] <peterrus> hmm my dpkg-reconfigure -a gives less errors now, but it doesnt complete right. it ends with 'dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: clound't identify the package'
[22:10] <Raliegh> mystdarren, I've only got 1GB RAM, and with all my other services running I'm always constantly at 30%.
[22:10] <paulsomebody> But I cannot login. The screen just blinks black for a second and then I am back at the GDM.
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Oh, I meant LightDM.
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Any ideas?
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Anyone?
[22:10] <mystdarren> Raliegh: I am typing this on a Inspiron 700m that has 1 gb ram and 1.6ghz and it flies with lubuntu
[22:10] <Tech-1> U broke it
[22:10] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Hm?
[22:11] <mystdarren> Raliegh: Its 6 years old
[22:11] <Raliegh> I don't have lubuntu (I assume that's short for light ubuntu) but I wish I did, lol.
[22:11] <Tech-1> did you try startx ?
[22:11] <nickel> any suggestions?
[22:11] <Raliegh> BRB, smoke break before I go through the process of figuring out how to properly transcode live streams. x.x
[22:11] <auronandace> !lubuntu | Raliegh
[22:11] <edbian> Raliegh, It's ubuntu with the LXDE desktop env  (this is lighter)
[22:11] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Well, I assume X are starting all right, since I have no problem with it when I am login in as the Guest.
[22:12] <edbian> darnit!
[22:12] <Tech-1> o
[22:12] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: It is just my usual account.
[22:12] <Tech-1> so, it logs in and goes blank ?
[22:12] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: I am absolutely certain that I have got password right, and again there is not error message.
[22:12] <deli> how do i get login screen back(after accidentally removing it)
[22:12] <Tech-1> huh
[22:13] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: No, it does not go blank for long, just for a secon.d
[22:13] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: And then, it throws me back at the login screen.
[22:13] <Tech-1> wow
[22:13] <Tech-1> not good
[22:13] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: What is most wonderful, things were working all right just a moment ago.
[22:13] <Tech-1> ive had that happen, turned out xserver got broke
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: And the only things I did change was irrelevant to xserver.
[22:14] <edbian> deli, icon in the top right corner -> log out
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, how do I fix this incessant thing?
[22:14] <Tech-1> did you try logging into safe graphics mode ?
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Ubuntu-2D?
[22:14] <Tech-1> Yeah
[22:14] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Just the same result.
[22:14] <mysteriousdarren> has anyone tried AWN?
[22:15] <Talonlite> I have mysteriousdarren
[22:15] <Talonlite> Though, I prefer OpenBox.
[22:15] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, I have but it was a couple years ago
[22:15] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: But for Guest account everything works all right.
[22:15] <Tech-1> ah
[22:15] <nickel> anyone? :|
[22:15] <edbian> type(awn) != type(openBox)
[22:15] <deli> edbian, no i accidentally removed the ubuntu-desktop and after rebooting i dont get a login screen( it keeps loading)
[22:15] <edbian> deli, Do you get a CLI login?
[22:16] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: It is amazing how suddenly things can come crushing down.
[22:16] <Tech-1> Yeah
[22:16] <edbian> deli, what do you mean 'it keeps loading' surely it stops loading eventually
[22:16] <mysteriousdarren> edbian: what did you think?
[22:16] <Tech-1> 11.10 ?
[22:16] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, I like it
[22:16] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: So, do you have any suggestions what to do? Yes, 11.10.
[22:16] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, But I use a tiling window manager now which does not have room for a dock
[22:16] <Tech-1> no, im not done 11.10 yet
[22:16] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, On my ubuntu machine I'm using stock unity
[22:16] <Tech-1> sry fella
[22:16] <mysteriousdarren> edbian: would you ever go back?
[22:17] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: With broken packages system, stuck disc tray and not logging into my accont.
[22:17] <deli> edbian, no im on another computer, i mean it shows the ubuntu logo and it stays there( no login screen)
[22:17] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: What else can go wrong?
[22:17] <Talonlite> What WM do you use edbian?
[22:17] <edbian> mysteriousdarren, I don't think so.  I am loving awesome
[22:17] <edbian> Talonlite, awesome
[22:17] <peterrus> Seveas: reconfigged udev, fixed /var/run, but still the systemboot hangs at 'running scripts /scripts/init-bottom … done' seems that it hangs just after initrd and just before the real system boot
[22:17] <Talonlite> I'll check it out
[22:17] <Tech-1> from experience, from my own machnes, it was a result of a broken X
[22:17] <peterrus> dpkg-reconfiure -a still ends with an error
[22:17] <edbian> deli, Try launching recovery mode.   You can access it by pressing shift early in the boot process.
[22:18] <usr13> _cb: grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo > sys-info ; sudo fdisk -l |grep swap >> sys-info ; pastebinit sys-info  #Show us resulting URL
[22:18] <_cb> usr13 grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo-->1017712 KB,sudo fdisk -l-->/dev/sda6        10237952    18053119     3907584   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[22:18] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, so I am already unwillingly a little geeky, I have figured that out.
[22:18] <edbian> deli, This problem is far to vague for me to know the problem much less the solution
[22:18] <peterrus> 'dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: clound't identify the package'
[22:18] <Raliegh> Back. And I don't want to re-install everything with lubuntu, I've got a lot of work currently on this machine so that's out of the question, haha.
[22:18] <Talonlite> No mouse needed O_O
[22:18] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: How do I check what _exactly_ is wrong with X from command line?
[22:18] <Talonlite> I like it already
[22:18] <edbian> Raliegh, what issue are you having?
[22:18] <Tech-1> dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg  ?
[22:18] <edbian> Talonlite, I use the mouse occasionally but yes it is completely unnecessary
[22:18] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, will try that.
[22:19] <Tech-1> but you have to stop lightgdm first
[22:19] <edbian> Talonlite, for web browsing for example it's much faster to use the mouse
[22:19] <deli> edbian
[22:19] <Tech-1> sudo service lightgdm stop
[22:19] <Talonlite> Right of course, So atleast the option is still there
[22:19] <Talonlite> I'm gonna set it up and check it out.
[22:19] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Okay, so switch to ssh6, do this, do that.
[22:19] <edbian> paulsomebody, read the /var/log/X.org   logs
[22:19] <Tech-1> f1 -f4
[22:19] <Raliegh> edbian nothing regarding Ubuntu anymore really. I'm tying to get VLC to do live transcoding of an Icecast stream in OGG to MP3 and push it to another Icecast mount... But I can't figure out the code for command-line. I tried installing a GUI to use VLC's GUI but that ate too much RAM and made my system unuseable, so I'm back at step one, lol.
[22:19] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Yes, I know.
[22:20] <Tech-1> k
[22:20] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay.
[22:20] <Tech-1> good luck
[22:20] <Marezz> anyone here has amd athlon64 3000+ @1.8GHz, 2gb ram, hd 4650 or similar config thats running unity?
[22:20] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Let's see what else can go wrong. :)
[22:20] <edbian> paulsomebody, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:20] <usr13> _cb: YOu couldn't just send the URL?
[22:20] <fuudruukers> unity?
[22:20] <paulsomebody> edbian: Looking for it, just a second.
[22:20] <Marezz> you know.. default DE for ubuntu...
[22:21] <adrian_2E0SDR> how do i install the KDE desktop in terminal?
[22:21] <fuudruukers> apt-get install kde*
[22:21] <edbian> got kicked off the wifi, I'm back
[22:21] <adrian_2E0SDR> Thanks fuudruukers
[22:21] <_cb> usr13 tried but terminal told me that pastebinit was not installed
[22:22] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot figure it out, can you take a look? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/781549/
[22:22] <deli> edbian, i followed a tutorial that said i should "sudo apt-get install gdm" it then asked if it could remove "lightdm" and "ubuntu-desktop", i entered yes and after restarting it ndidnt show the login screen, it stays stuck with the ubntu logo
[22:22] <edbian> paulsomebody, looking
[22:22] <paulsomebody> edbian: Thanks.
[22:22] <edbian> deli, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:23] <edbian> deli, not sure why  it wanted to get rid of that
[22:23] <edbian> deli, wait
[22:23] <edbian> deli, What are you trying to do?
[22:23] <adrian_2E0SDR> Still can't install KDE desktop in terminal with apt-get install kde*
[22:23] <edbian> deli, ubuntu uses lightdm (ldm) and unity now  this is provided through the package 'ubuntu-desktop'
[22:23] <mongy> lightdm is default, but still does not explain the removal of the it when install gdm
[22:24] <Tech-1> adrian_2E0SDR:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:24] <deli> edbian, i am trying to get the computer working again, because now i cant even log in
[22:24] <pbink> i have a fully updated 10.04 with a dual monitors setup that's working perfectly...except when i suspend and then restore the machine, the secondary monitor is disabled...if i go to System > Montiors and then turn it off and then cancel the changes it wakes up again...any ideas?
[22:24] <usr13> _cb: It probably also told you how to install it.  But that is ok.  Your RAM is, in fact, smaller than your swap partition, so that is good.  It is ok.  So that tells us that having a swap partition smaller than RAM is not the problem.  That eliminates that issue. That is all we know so far.  Looks like hibernate is just not working on your system, (and it is no fault of your own).  So...
[22:24] <mongy> both can exist, but chosen by update-alternative
[22:24] <edbian> deli, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   should fix everything
[22:24] <Tech-1> hope you got good hardware, thats gonna slam
[22:24] <edbian> paulsomebody, it hates your keyboard :P
[22:25] <adrian_2E0SDR> Tech-1 THANK, That Worked, Merry Christmas m8
[22:25] <Tech-1> 10-4
[22:25] <edbian> paulsomebody, what's the issue?  I don't see any others errors in your Xorg.0.log
[22:25] <edbian> Tech-1, THANK
[22:25] <paulsomebody> edbian: It will have to get used to it if it wants to stay on my hard drive. :)
[22:25] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot log into my accont.
[22:25] <usr13> _cb: hibernate works just fine for some, for others, not so good.  That's about all I can tell you.
[22:26] <_cb> user13 ok, thanks. Googling the problem. They suggest I try alt f1 next time it happens and see what i see.
[22:26] <edbian> paulsomebody, what happens when you try?
[22:26] <WurzDaPickles> I have done some web searches but all the answers I have come up with so far seem to have some issues, a lot of which require a reinstallation of ubuntu. The situation is: I am currently running ubuntu 11.10 64 bit on an amd machine with onboard ATI graphics. the glfrx graphics driver is not installing for me, but worked perfectly under 10.04. Does anyone have a solution that is tried and true yet? Thanks in advance.
[22:26] <mongy> Raliegh, ask in #ffmpeg they will know how to pipe from a stream into whatever
[22:26] <deli> edbian, the problem is i am not logged in and i cant log in because after turning the computer on it never gets to the login screen( just stays with the startup image)
[22:26] <edbian> deli, can you log into recovery mode?
[22:26] <paulsomebody> edbian: Every time I insert the password, the screen blanks with black for a moment and instead of logging in, I am back at LightDM.
[22:26] <paulsomebody> edbian: I am _very_ sure the password is right.
[22:26] <ztag100> Hey Guys! I decided to setup the minecraft server
[22:26] <bbbbbbbb> my kindle won't get automounted like it always did. how do i get it mounted?
[22:26] <edbian> paulsomebody, what session are you trying to log into?  unity?
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: The login and X system is okay when I use the guest account.
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, Unity.
[22:27] <edbian> paulsomebody, sounds like you're logging in and X is crashing
[22:27] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you log into other sessions?  for example unity 2D?
[22:27] <ztag100> but, I see the UBuntu liveCD is taking about 30 minutes to boot up
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot.
[22:27] <ztag100> should I try Fedora or Mint, since I already have the CDs Burnt
[22:27] <edbian> paulsomebody, It's just your user that exhibits this issue?
[22:27] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot do that, but only with my default account.
[22:27] <ztag100> or should I just use DSL or Puppy?
[22:28] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, only that user.
[22:28] <edbian> paulsomebody, hang on, have to google something
[22:28] <paulsomebody> edbian: Thank you for the time.
[22:28] <ztag100> the laptop only has 512MB of Ram
[22:28] <angguss> ztag100: could go smaller, could use TCL
[22:28] <edbian> paulsomebody, sure
[22:28] <ztag100> TCL?
[22:28] <deli> edbian, i tried  as you said pressing shift at the startup and i saw a black screen with "GRUB loading", but then i get the strtup image again and stays there
[22:28] <ztag100> never heard of it
[22:29] <edbian> deli, press shift sooner
[22:29] <ztag100> I just need the capability to run a BukkitServer for 5 people
[22:29] <edbian> deli, hang on I will post a link
[22:29] <deli> edbian got it thanks
[22:29] <ztag100> preferably off of a liveCD
[22:29] <deli> edbian now i get a list of options wich one should i do
[22:30] <edbian> deli, recovery mode
[22:30] <edbian> deli, :)
[22:30] <edbian> paulsomebody, hang tight
[22:30] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay. :)
[22:30] <ztag100> I'm gna try Fedora next
[22:31] <deli> edbian, now i get the options "resume, fsck, remount or root"
[22:31] <Talonlite> edbian, When you get the time may I take a look at your awesomerc file?
[22:31] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you log in as somebody else that can sudo?
[22:31] <edbian> deli, root
[22:31] <paulsomebody> edbian: Guests cannot sudo?
[22:31] <edbian> Talonlite, I'm not an that machine and I don't have access to it :(
[22:31] <bbbbbbbb>  my kindle won't get automounted like it always did. how do i get it mounted?
[22:31] <edbian> paulsomebody, I don't think guests can sudo
[22:31] <Talonlite> Damn lol, Alright i'll check out examples etc online
[22:31] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, that would make sense.
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, if you cannot log in as anybody that can sudo then log out and press shift while the system boots in order to boot recovery mode
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, indeed :)
[22:32] <paulsomebody> edbian: I suddenly remembered, I can login into my account from command line.
[22:32] <edbian> Talonlite, sure, my is hardly modified at all
[22:32] <Ben64> I've got 10.04, and X takes a LOT of cpu, it is slowing down my Team Fortress 2. How can I make it take less cpu?
[22:32] <deli> edbian, and now sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[22:32] <ztag100> Is fedora lighter than Ubuntu? I know neither are very light... but is either lighter than the other?
[22:32] <paulsomebody> edbian: On the other terminal.
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, that works
[22:32] <edbian> paulsomebody, yes, tty1
[22:32] <Aka> ok well I'm gonna have to wait till I can get hardline and try again since my wireless is being goofy
[22:32] <Aka> thanks for the help those of you who chimed in
[22:32] <Aka> later
[22:32] <ztag100> anyone know if it'll work?
[22:33] <Tech-1> ztag100:  youll just have to try one
[22:33] <edbian> deli, you there?
[22:33] <edbian> paulsomebody, you there?
[22:33] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I am logged in at the terminal 6.
[22:33] <ztag100> ok! when booting into fedora, my Screen gets really foggy... Guessing no good video drivers?
[22:33] <deli> edbian, yes and now sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[22:33] <edbian> deli, yes
[22:33] <ztag100> :(
[22:33] <edbian> deli, if it is already installed, purge it and then install it
[22:33] <Tech-1> ztag100:  try #fedora
[22:34] <deli> edbian, if i dont know?
[22:34] <edbian> deli, then just install, reboot, and test
[22:34] <edbian> deli, This should fix the issue.  Why did you install gdm in the first place?
[22:35] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, what is next for me?
[22:35] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo rm /home/you/.ICEAuthority
[22:36] <deli> edbian, was following a tutorial to disable or remove unity
[22:36] <edbian> paulsomebody, that file controls login credentials for GUI
[22:36] <paulsomebody> edbian: I cannot copy/paste things between terminals?
[22:36] <edbian> deli, ha, the instructions I'm giving put unity back
[22:36] <edbian> paulsomebody, annoyingly, no
[22:36] <edbian> paulsomebody, but you can use tab completion
[22:36] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, what would I do next?
[22:37] <edbian> paulsomebody, You removed the file?  try to log in in the gui again
[22:37] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay.
[22:37] <edbian> deli, Do you not want to do that?
[22:37] <deli> edbian, i havent doine anything yet, should i do something else?
[22:37] <edbian> deli, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want unity back and to be able to log in again.
[22:38] <Talonlite> kk gonna test awesome brb.
[22:38] <deli> edbian, if you wanna see the tutorial heres the link:http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-remove-unity-and.html
[22:38] <edbian> deli, If you want e.g. xfce   run this: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:38] <wolfmitchell> How do I make the grub menu show on startup?
[22:38] <edbian> deli, reading...
[22:38] <edbian> wolfmitchell, press shift
[22:38] <Ben64> I've got 10.04, and X takes a LOT of cpu, it is slowing down my Team Fortress 2. How can I make it take less cpu?
[22:38] <edbian> wolfmitchell, very early in the boot, before you see anything ubuntu related
[22:38] <deli> edbian, what should i do if i want the gnome classics
[22:39] <usr13>  wolfmitchell Hold down shift key
[22:39] <wolfmitchell> I mean without that, eg perminently (sp)
[22:39] <edbian> deli, lemme look it up
[22:39] <deli> edbian, it went wrong for me at step 2
[22:39] <edbian> deli, reading...
[22:40] <paulsomebody> edbian: It did not work, same blinking issue.
[22:41] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps you can give me a hint as to why you think it's doing this?  Did cause X to crash?  Did you change anything recently?
[22:41] <edbian> deli, Those instructions should work.  You're logged in as root right?  Did you run any commands?
[22:41] <deli> edbian, when i "sudo apt-get install gdm"  and  "sudo apt-get purge lightdm" my computer asked to remove lightdm and ubuntu-desktop and everything went wrong after rebooting
[22:41] <THEROOT> anyone can help me to add a domain to bind9?
[22:41] <deli> edbian no not yet
[22:42] <edbian> deli, yeah, well, sudo apt-get install gdm
[22:42] <paulsomebody> edbian: Well, first my package system broke, then my disc tray stuck, then when I was trying to eject disk while rebooting THIS happened.
[22:42] <edbian> deli, Let's just do steps 1 and 2 here in the root term
[22:42] <edbian> paulsomebody, haha, everything all at once huh
[22:42] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:42] <pbink> can anyone point me in the right direction of getting a script to run when you restore a suspended system?
[22:42] <ztag100> Alright
[22:42] <edbian> paulsomebody, that should repair packages or yell about being broken
[22:42] <ztag100> won't work on fedora either
[22:43] <pbink> i need to reset my monitors because the secondary one never "wakes up" when i suspend and restore
[22:43] <ztag100> should I try a different light weight distro?
[22:43] <paulsomebody> edbian: Only things I changed was devices boot order - I thought that since the BIOS is trying to boot from disc, that is why I cannot eject it at startup.
[22:43] <ztag100> such as DSL or Puppy?
[22:43] <Tech-1> ztag100:  debian should work fine
[22:43] <deli> edbian, i dont know if i got an error or not.
[22:43] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps, that should be unrelated.  Run that apt-get stuff
[22:43] <paulsomebody> edbian: That was naive. :( I tried that myself.
[22:43] <edbian> deli, read it and figure it out
[22:43] <paulsomebody> edbian: This problem was caused by Samba4, that much I know.
[22:43] <ztag100> tech-1 can I use Debian on a liveCD?
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, did you run the apt-get commands?
[22:44] <paulsomebody> edbian: It fails to configure, and now I cannot install or update anything.
[22:44] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, of course.
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get -f install
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, that attempts to fix broken packages.  Read what is says and follow directions
[22:44] <paulsomebody> edbian: I think I have tried that, but I will double check.
[22:44] <ztag100> ok, fedora just booted
[22:44] <edbian> paulsomebody, alright
[22:44] <ztag100> but no wirless
[22:44] <edbian> ztag100, this is the ubuntu channel
[22:44] <ztag100> I know
[22:44] <deli> edbian, i got 3 lines:W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:45] <ztag100> Is there a general linux channel?
[22:45] <Tech-1>  ##linux
[22:45] <edbian> deli, ok to solve the error run this: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:45] <ztag100> I should have guessed :P
[22:45] <deli> edbian, then E: unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[22:45] <paulsomebody> edbian: No, sorry.
[22:45] <edbian> deli, are you running apt-get with sudo ??
[22:45] <edbian> paulsomebody, no?
[22:45] <deli> edbian, yes
[22:46] <paulsomebody> edbian: It still says 'Errors were encountered while processing'.
[22:46] <edbian> deli, sudo rm -r /var/cache/apt/
[22:46] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you give me more info?  errors while processing what package?
[22:46] <edbian> paulsomebody, did it ask you any questions?
[22:46] <paulsomebody> edbian: Samba4.
[22:46] <edbian> deli, then sudo apt-get update
[22:46] <paulsomebody> edbian: It did not.
[22:46] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get purge samba4
[22:47] <elgruntox> hiya yall im having an issue with ssl and my ubuntu install. for some reason I cant curl https://steampowered.com/ even though its CA is in my stuff all fine. Any ideas?
[22:47] <deli> edbian, and the 3rd: E: the package listst or status file could not be parsed or opene
[22:47] <edbian> deli, the command I gave last will fix that error as well
[22:47] <paulsomebody> edbian: Haha. I tried being mean with this package, still the same error.
[22:47] <edbian> paulsomebody, I need more info.  If sudo apt-get -f install and sudo apt-get purge samba4 wont' get ride of it it must provide more errors
[22:48] <edbian> paulsomebody, or some instructions or something
[22:48] <paulsomebody> edbian: I am trying to find error log I posted earlier.
[22:48] <markus> hi all,
[22:48] <edbian> paulsomebody, It should yell stuff at you from this most recent command
[22:48] <markus> I have a question about my distro version
[22:48] <Waraudon> Why would Ubuntu Server suddenly be renaming my eth0 interface to eth2 at boot every time?
[22:48] <edbian> paulsomebody, old error logs may be incorrect now that we've run so many commands
[22:49] <paulsomebody> edbian: This command(s) was the first things I tried. :)
[22:49] <deli> edbian, your very first fix( sudo rm ..) didnt work: cannot remove ...: read-only file system
[22:49] <edbian> deli, ugh
[22:49]  * mf|laptop runs screaming from the room noting the "Read only file system"
[22:49] <edbian> deli, log out, boot ubuntu normally, when it stops running press ctrl + alt + F1
[22:50] <edbian> deli, See if you can log in via CLI
[22:50] <mf|laptop> sorry bringing back some memories of the VPS "Incident"
[22:50] <edbian> deli, Then we can try these commands again and things should not be read only
[22:50] <deli> edbian, how to log out from terminal
[22:50] <edbian> paulsomebody, Ask the channel how to remove samba and explain how you cannot and you will get answers I think
[22:51] <edbian> deli, sudo shutdown -r now  (to reboot)  exit (to logout)
[22:51] <Waraudon> kernel: [14.710438] <30>udev[372]: renamed network interface eth0 to eth2, happening every boot even though nothing was changed
[22:51] <paulsomebody> edbian: Sane idea, there must be #samba over there somewhere.
[22:51] <edbian> paulsomebody, You should ask in this channel
[22:51] <edbian> paulsomebody, It has more to do with apt-get than samba
[22:51] <deli> edbian, should i reboot or log out
[22:51] <edbian> deli, Yes
[22:51] <edbian> deli, do booth
[22:51] <Seveas> Waraudon, check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[22:51] <edbian> paulsomebody, It is very strange that you cannot uninstall a package
[22:51] <paulsomebody> Okay, how do I brutally murder samba4 package that have prevented my package system from functioning?
[22:52] <deli> sudo shutdown -r now exit
[22:52] <paulsomebody> I think now simply removing it would not be satisfactory enough.
[22:52] <edbian> deli, the exit isn't necessary if you're rebooting
[22:52] <Waraudon> Seveas: I have checked it and removed the offending eth2 line, but it comes back automatically every time. I used to have a line in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0 that changed its hwaddress, but I've since removed that. 'ifconfig eth2' still shows the old address that I used to have set, why?
[22:52] <edbian> paulsomebody, purge is the strongest remove there is
[22:52] <deli> edbian, wrong keyboard:)
[22:53] <edbian> deli, and if you wanna do two commands you do this: command1 && command 2
[22:53] <paulsomebody> edbian: And if it is not helping?
[22:53] <edbian> deli, haha
[22:53] <edbian> paulsomebody, that's what I'm saying.  Ask the channel.  I do not know why it won't uninstall
[22:53] <Ben64> when packages have scripts to be run on removal, and they do not exit correctly, it can cause packages to be unremovable
[22:53] <edbian> Ben64, how can we fix this?  edit the script by hand?
[22:53] <Ben64> yeah
[22:53] <paulsomebody> edbian: I think I know the answer. Wait for a second to get the mystery unveiled.
[22:53] <edbian> paulsomebody, alright
[22:53] <edbian> Ben64, that sounds fun
[22:53] <Ben64> its not
[22:54] <Ben64> good thing it doesn't happen often
[22:56] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I have found the old log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/776580/
[22:56] <paulsomebody> edbian: The message is still the same.
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, reading...
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo rm /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get purge samba4
[22:57] <edbian> paulsomebody, It said the config file was messed up
[22:58] <paulsomebody> edbian: Yes, I have tried that days ago.
[22:58] <deli> edbian, i get a list of things the computer is trying to do to shutdown( last line is "checking battery state [OK]") but it doesnt shut down(justning it off and on cause any harm?)
[22:58] <Ben64> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:58] <elgruntox> hey anyone know why my ubuntu server isnt verifying certain CA's
[22:58] <Ben64> yep, script
[22:58] <elgruntox> even though i totaly have them installed
[22:58] <paulsomebody> edbian: It still asks me to remove the config file, even AFTER I removed it.
[22:58] <edbian> paulsomebody, go to /etc/samba
[22:58] <edbian> is it still there?
[22:58] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps you made a typo?
[22:58] <edbian> Ben64, mmmm
[22:59] <paulsomebody> edbian: It comes back every time I am trying to do something with packages and it tries to configure samba4.
[22:59] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I will try that again.
[22:59] <deli> edbian, i get a list of things the computer is trying to do to shutdown( last line is "checking battery state [OK]") but it doesnt shut down(just turnning it off and on cause any harm?)
[22:59] <edbian> paulsomebody, sudo apt-get -f install  (with the config file removed)
[22:59] <edbian> deli, yeah just shut it off.  It will be fine
[23:00] <paulsomebody> edbian: Okay, I removed entire /etc/samba, this should do the trick.
[23:00] <Ben64> doubtful :(
[23:00] <edbian> paulsomebody, uhh, yeah hopefully
[23:00] <edbian> :(
[23:00] <edbian> :/
[23:00] <Ben64> i can't remember where the scripts are run from...
[23:00] <edbian> :-
[23:00] <edbian> :\
[23:00] <paulsomebody> edbian: Nope, we have got a dangerous schizophrenic package on out hands. :)
[23:00] <edbian> :|
[23:01] <deli> edbian, so now i start the normal oneor "previous linux version" or memory test?
[23:01] <edbian> paulsomebody, Ben64 thinks the remove / install script is broke
[23:01] <edbian> deli, prev
[23:01] <edbian> deli, not 'mem test'
[23:01] <paulsomebody> edbian: Which reminds, I can talk to the Samba developers, there is a relevant bug.
[23:01] <edbian> paulsomebody, can you run sudo samba4 --configure   ?
[23:01] <edbian> paulsomebody, there appears to be a bug in samba now, yes
[23:02] <jerry1453> hello
[23:02] <paulsomebody> edbian: We will see in a minute. :)
[23:02] <edbian> Ben64, we can't even tell what line the problem is on!
[23:02] <deli> edbian, ok now i get the normal prev version and the recovery previous one
[23:02] <edbian> deli, launch normal
[23:03] <edbian> deli, and it should exhibit the problem it was having before correct?
[23:03] <edbian> deli, I'm flying blind here
[23:03] <paulsomebody> edbian: No, I cannot. It says 'command not found'.
[23:03] <paulsomebody> edbian: But package is still there.
[23:03] <deli> edbian, ok but yes, no login screen in the previous version too
[23:04] <edbian> paulsomebody, I have no idea
[23:04] <mongy> deli, do you boot up with noacpi ?
[23:04] <Ben64> paulsomebody: rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package name(s)>
[23:04] <edbian> deli, press control + alt + F1
[23:04] <paulsomebody> Ben64: Oh, I have not done that yet.
[23:04] <edbian> Ben64, which names?
[23:04] <Ben64> paulsomebody:  dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <package name>
[23:04] <Ben64> samba4 or something
[23:04] <edbian> try that stuff
[23:04] <Ben64> dunno how it is exactly
[23:04] <deli> mongy, dont know??
[23:04] <paulsomebody> Ben64: Yes, that should about cover my desire to get revenge on that package. :)
[23:04] <Ben64> :)
[23:05] <deli> edbian, i get a list now, but no action
[23:05] <edbian> mongy, he was following these instructions: http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-remove-unity-and.html
[23:05] <Ben64> there should be a few things matching samba in there
[23:05] <edbian> deli, a list?
[23:05] <edbian> deli, I'm confused, you should be able to log in CLI
[23:05] <amaroks> Guys
[23:05] <markus> I installed Xubuntu, from the Xubuntu xfce version I downloaded ubuntu destkop package through commandline, now I can boot in GNOME session. My etc/ folder however contains a debian-version file and no other version file.. which distro do I have?
[23:06] <Ben64> ubuntu and xubuntu are still ubuntu
[23:06] <amaroks> WHats the damn  lockpad on some folders I download , keeps giving permision denied, I know I can do sudo in ssh but how to deal with that in GUI
[23:06] <deli> edbian, yea a list with starting..., starting ..., stopping..., stopping..., last line is : stopping mount filesystems on boot  [OK]
[23:06] <markus> ty Ben :) any clue why I have the debian version file?
[23:06] <paulsomebody> Ben64: Hooray, the genocide of samba packages on my system have been successful.
[23:06] <Ben64> :D
[23:07] <edbian> deli, something is wrong with your hdd (this is the second clue)
[23:07] <edbian> deli, can you boot a live CD?
[23:07] <Waraudon> Fixed it, I had to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules entirely
[23:07] <Waraudon> and it finally worked
[23:07] <Ben64> markus: ubuntu is based off of debian
[23:07] <paulsomebody> Okay, no everything i am left with is broken account and stuck disc tray. :)
[23:07] <edbian> paulsomebody, Ben64 :)
[23:07] <markus> ah, nice didnt know :) tyvm!
[23:07] <markus> and good night or whatever time it is where u are^^
[23:07] <paulsomebody> edbian: Ben64: Thanks guys, we did it. :)
[23:07] <Waraudon> I still have no idea how eth0 got changed to eth2 even though nothing happened, other than I think the server may have reset because of a brief power outage
[23:08] <deli> edbian, i think i have a usb here, but not sure if it is ubuntu or xubuntu
[23:08] <edbian> deli, I think the instructions you followed was simply a coincidence
[23:08] <amaroks> any help please? I asked a simple question for anyone who have used ubuntu for couple of months ... :(
[23:08] <edbian> deli, doesn't matter, boot it
[23:08] <edbian> deli, I wouldn't care if it had slackware on it
[23:08] <Ben64> amaroks: you could do "gksudo nautilus"
[23:08] <edbian> amaroks, a lock on a file means that file is not readable by your user
[23:08] <Ben64> but beware!
[23:09] <deli> edbian, ok just a sec
[23:09] <edbian> amaroks, What are you using to download these files that have locks on them?
[23:09] <edbian> deli, sure
[23:09] <edbian> deli, the rabbit hole is deep
[23:09] <Ben64> oh, downloaded files
[23:09] <Ben64> can't you right click and change permissions?
[23:09] <edbian> Ben64, that's what I'm confused about
[23:09] <edbian> Ben64, firefox writes them all as your user
[23:10] <deli> edbian, the list bis still there and nothing has happened, should i just turn it off
[23:10] <Ben64> anyway, time to see if xubuntu fixes my problem
[23:10] <amaroks> edbian: firefox
[23:10] <edbian> deli, yeah, turn the machine off and boot the live USB you have
[23:10] <edbian> amaroks, are you running firefox as root?
[23:10] <amaroks> now transmission has lock inside
[23:10] <edbian> amaroks, how are you running firefox?  who are you logged in as?
[23:11] <amaroks> No , I'm just logging in with a username
[23:11] <amaroks> im not logged in as root
[23:11] <edbian> amaroks, how are you running firefox?
[23:11] <amaroks> click on it and it runs :D
[23:11] <edbian> amaroks, in a terminal what is the output of 'whoami' ?
[23:11] <edbian> without quotes
[23:11] <amaroks> mody
[23:11] <paulsomebody> Okay, can anyone help me with the stuck CD tray?
[23:12] <amaroks> how can I give root access to my username?
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, can you right click the files and change the permissions in 'properties' ?
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, using sudo
[23:12] <amaroks> no, wont let me change properties
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, what filesystem are you on?
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, are you saving the files onto your hdd?  an external?
[23:12] <amaroks> hdd
[23:12] <edbian> amaroks, do other programs create locked files?
[23:13] <amaroks> nah just some
[23:13] <edbian> amaroks, which ones?
[23:13] <amaroks> any can be, downloaded folder
[23:13] <edbian> amaroks, what?
[23:13] <amaroks> now its a lock in .config/transmission
[23:13] <Tech-1> paulsomebody:  get a paper clip and use the small hole in the front, it has to be straight
[23:13] <deli> edbian, ok its xubuntu and i get a list of options: try without installing, install xu..,check disc for defects, test memory  or boot from first hard disk
[23:13] <edbian> deli, try
[23:13] <edbian> deli, see if this live USB can boot :)
[23:14] <edbian> deli, cross your findgers
[23:14] <edbian> fingers*
[23:14] <edbian> amaroks, can you pastebin the output of ls -l ~ and ~/Downloads   ?  paste.ubuntu.com
[23:14] <jrogge> hey i'm having trouble with directories. I have my usb in my computer and it's in the folder media which is in file system, and to download something i have to specify a directory. what would i use?
[23:15] <jrogge> i.e. what is the directory name of file system ?
[23:15] <edbian> amaroks, actually, just show me the output of ls -la ~/Downloads
[23:15] <amaroks> there is no problem in downloaded items now
[23:15] <edbian> jrogge, /media/<your usb>/
[23:15] <amaroks> Now for an example I can't run transmission
[23:15] <edbian> amaroks, what?
[23:15] <schnuffle1> jrogge: you mean: where is my USB-Stick mounted? Should be in /media/<usb>/
[23:15] <deli> edbian, ok it worked
[23:15] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Decorative panel covers that.
[23:15] <edbian> deli, awesome, can you run gparted?
[23:15] <amaroks> says permission denied
[23:16] <edbian> amaroks, I don't understand the problem.
[23:16] <Tech-1> wow
[23:16] <elgruntox> anyone have any issues with ssl CA certs in ubuntu server? because I cant curl anything https and its annoying! same with wget and python
[23:16] <Tech-1> lol
[23:16] <edbian> amaroks, You can't run transmission?
[23:16] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: My point is that over disc tray there is another one, without holes on it. :)
[23:16] <edbian> Tech-1, what are you laughing at?
[23:16] <jrogge> oh thanks
[23:16] <paulsomebody> edbian: Me. :)
[23:16] <edbian> haha
[23:16] <edbian> decorative covers :P
[23:17] <deli> edbian, its not in the accesoires, where to find or how from terminal?
[23:17] <amaroks> No
[23:17] <edbian> deli, from a terminal
[23:17] <edbian> deli, gksudo gparted
[23:17] <Tech-1> paulsomebody:  maybe during bios powerup, keep hitting eject button ?
[23:17] <amaroks> Well I simple want to have root access with my username , isnlt this possible with ubuntu?
[23:17] <e2b04836> amaroks: yes, use the sudo command
[23:17] <amaroks> not in SSH
[23:17] <edbian> amaroks, use sudo
[23:18] <edbian> amaroks, gksudo nautilus
[23:18] <paulsomebody> edbian: Tech-1: Do you  think I can break it if I try remove it manually? I have tried removing it during boot, it gave me another problem which I am trying to fix even now. :)
[23:18] <edbian> paulsomebody, what remove the CD drive?  turn the computer off and go crazy!
[23:18] <Tech-1> ya, you could take the tray out of time
[23:18] <paulsomebody> Okay, good news.
[23:18] <edbian> tray, you have no chance to survive, make your time
[23:18] <deli> edbian, ok i get an exclamation mark at one of the 3 partitions
[23:18] <edbian> all your base...
[23:18] <paulsomebody> Decorative cover can removed easily and painlessly.
[23:18] <edbian> deli, I thought so, right click it and hit properties, any info?
[23:18] <Tech-1> getRdone
[23:18] <Waraudon> Is there any way to prevent udev from messing around with my network interfaces in the future?
[23:19] <edbian> deli, what partition?  / ?
[23:19] <amaroks> I downloaded a file and its name it has (
[23:19] <edbian> deli, try to use gparted to 'check' the partition
[23:19] <edbian> amaroks, so what?
[23:19] <amaroks> cant excute that via shell nor rename it , bash sysntax near (
[23:20] <amaroks> How do I deal with this?
[23:20] <e2b04836> amaroks: put the filename in "s
[23:20] <edbian> amaroks, mv \(file file
[23:20] <deli> edbian, cant do that, its greyed out
[23:20] <edbian> amaroks, or quote it
[23:20] <amaroks> \
[23:20] <amaroks> dpesnt escape it
[23:20] <amaroks> tried already
[23:20] <edbian> deli, what can't you do?
[23:20] <deli> edbian, the check, its greyed out, cant click it
[23:21] <Boreeas> I accidentally stopped the ftpd on my remote server, and when I started it again, it started messing up. Every time I click a folder now, it tells me "Couldn't receive directory listing"
[23:21] <Boreeas> How do I fix that?
[23:21] <edbian> deli, can you right click the partition and click information?
[23:21] <edbian> deli, if you highlight a partition does 'check' ungrey itself?
[23:21] <paulsomebody> edbian: Ben64: Bad news: pushing the paper clip through a hole only produced a really weird noise.
[23:22] <edbian> paulsomebody, perhaps it was a fun or enjoyable noise?
[23:22] <edbian> paulsomebody, that drive sounds physically broken
[23:22] <Ben64> paulsomebody: probably a silly question, but does "eject" work
[23:22] <e2b04836> paulsomebody: was the drive on at the time?
[23:22] <Tech-1> ya, its still turning, it has to be straight and forced straight, once the tray starts to come out, you have to grab it and pull it the rest of the way
[23:22] <deli> edbian, if i rightclick it it is highlighted by definition right?
[23:22] <edbian> deli, yes
[23:23] <Ben64> and yeah, if the disc is spinning it will make a noise, but it will still come out
[23:23] <edbian> deli, perhaps the other partitions can be checked?  (to test how to ungrey check and how to highlight a partition)
[23:23] <deli> edbian, on rightclicking the check is greyed out
[23:23] <edbian> deli, mmm, what about 'information' of that partitin?  (in the right click menu)
[23:23] <deli> edbian, file system unknown
[23:23] <edbian> deli, be sure this is the partitions of the hdd and not of the usb stick (which also might have 3 partitions)
[23:24] <edbian> deli, can you show me a screenshot?  imageshack.us
[23:24] <deli> edbian, im on another computer
[23:24] <edbian> deli, so?
[23:24] <mongy> Boreeas, how about just a refresh of the listing?
[23:24] <edbian> deli, (I knew that)
[23:24] <deli> edbian, ok just a sec
[23:24] <edbian> :)
[23:25] <mongy> Boreeas, consider using ssh, it has sftp built in.
[23:25] <edbian> deli, perhaps the target machine (running the USB live stick) is not online.  That is an issue
[23:25] <paulsomebody> edbian: Ben64: e2b04836: I am into the noise music, so, yes, the noise we enjoyable. But it did not sound very healthy.
[23:25] <paulsomebody> e2b04836: Yes, the disc was there at the time.
[23:25] <amaroks> edbian: Im fine with the permision thing I got another small question, I layed with compiz-config then had problems , so I removed it now if I boot normally I dont see windows shadow more
[23:26] <edbian> amaroks, you 'layed' with it?
[23:26] <paulsomebody> Tech-1: Yes, that is what I did.
[23:26] <amaroks> How can I reset my GUI to exactly how i was when Installed ubuntu?
[23:26] <Boreeas> mongy: I'm actually using filezilla for ftp, which I find more intuitive to use
[23:26] <deli> edbian, ill just use a usb to transfer it to this com, just a sec
[23:26] <amaroks> I have finally moved to ubuntu
[23:26] <mongy> amaroks, make a new user and login.
[23:26] <amaroks> Well I have some emails profiles
[23:26] <mongy> Boreeas, refresh it then.  filezilla like many caches it
[23:26] <edbian> deli, ok
[23:27] <Tech-1> paulsomebody:  then try it with the machine off,
[23:27] <deli> edbian, how to take a screenshot and save in (x)ubuntu
[23:27] <amaroks> how can I reset everything in gui for my username? i tried some tricks online like rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 etc.., it did not do it
[23:27] <e2b04836> Boreeas: did you start the ftpd as root?