[01:39] <tsimonq2> Grrr not much work done in UWN
[01:39]  * tsimonq2 works on it now
[01:55] <DarinMiller> tsimonq2: sup?
[01:55] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: The Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter needs some summaries
[01:55] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Join here, there's a link to the style guide at the top, that'll show you how to write summaries: http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[01:56] <DarinMiller> and what do we summarize?
[01:57] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: The articles in the doc :)
[02:00] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Bullet pointed articles don't get summaries, so like the stuff in General News and Planet need summaries
[02:06] <tsimonq2> Remember to add your name to the bottom to be credited!
[02:12] <DarinMiller> Is this news published weekly?
[02:13] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Yep :)
[02:14] <tsimonq2> Who is the awesome person who did the summary for [02:14] <tsimonq2> ?
[02:14] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Aaaaaaaaaa HA
[02:16] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: See my comment on your summary :)
[02:16] <DarinMiller> yes,  thanks for the input.  I have never read this news feed so thanks for the links
[02:17] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: guiverc is that awesome tiger, he's done this for a long time now, he's really good at it :)
[02:18] <guiverc_> tsimonq2: table is horrific for typing, and its behind me & not visible from desk...
[02:18] <guiverc_> so hadn't seen your ping tsimonq2
[02:18] <tsimonq2> guiverc_: Ah gotcha
[02:19] <DarinMiller> yes, I agree, his summaries are detailed but concise.
[02:19] <DarinMiller> table= tablet typing?
[02:20] <guiverc_> DarinMiller: :)  yep, sorry hadn't noticed table...
[02:23] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Can you revise your summary, or are you busy?
[02:24] <DarinMiller> Sure, I can revise.  I was reviewing the new website to understand the previous announcement reference....
[02:24] <DarinMiller> news
[02:25] <tsimonq2> Ok :)
[02:27] <DarinMiller> critiques welcome.  The 12.04 ESM summary is essentially a repeat of the 12,04 EOL summary, so would the same summary work for both  topics?
[02:28] <guiverc> DarinMiller, - I agree.. but my understanding is each summary is mostly written on its own, even if repeating... the editors later 'clean' as they see fit
[02:29] <guiverc> hence the EOL comment - editors will see & correct or neaten if they deem fit.
[02:34] <guiverc> ps DarinMiller - my comment was for editors, not you.  it was to make mine match yours
[02:36] <DarinMiller> guiverc: OK, thanks
[02:37] <DarinMiller> guiverc and tsimonq2: do you guys do this every Saturday?  Who generates the topic list.
[02:37] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Friday and Saturday usually
[02:38] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: We get the links here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/LinkSuggestions
[02:42] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Good job! :D
[02:44] <DarinMiller> LOL, I just copy/pasted/fixed :)
[02:46] <DarinMiller> ok, unless I am missing something, everything is summarized, yes?
[02:46] <DarinMiller> or should we look for more suggested links?
[02:47] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Go take a look
[02:47] <tsimonq2> Specifically at blogosphere
[02:47] <guiverc_> DarinMiller: if you're working as a summary writer - you just add summaries to those provided; adding links is done previously ...
[02:48] <tsimonq2> But we can also collect links ;)
[02:48] <guiverc_> but if you see a link you feel SHOULD BE there, add it & comment so others will see; and evaluate & remove (resolve) if they agree it belongs
[02:48] <guiverc_> remove (as in comment) - sorry my language is crap
[02:49] <guiverc_> listen to tsimonq2 anyway; he's the boss (along with jose) anyway
[02:49] <tsimonq2> :)
[02:54] <DarinMiller> we have at least 3 different links referencing some form of 12.04 EOL.  People who know enough to find this website certainly do not need reminded 3+ times of 12.04 EOL.
[03:00] <DarinMiller> Ok, now we have 4 :)
[03:02] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Oh, that's right. Good eye!
[03:02] <guiverc> i think they are worthwhile...
[03:03] <guiverc> it's important for many; and few really identical.  (3 I mentioned earlier for some reason)
[03:03] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Let's group them
[03:03] <tsimonq2> That's what we've done before
[03:04] <guiverc> :)
[03:05] <DarinMiller> Ok.  Just seems a little redundant.  Since this the ubuntu new site is not a click bait website, a little overlaop is OK.  My main frustration is websites that pretend to report news by  over reporting the same topics in multi page ad infested  pages.
[03:08] <guiverc> DarinMiller, i do see your point.  to me because the topic is important; for those who support servers - the message is critical, as its easy to forget you have 1 or 2 machines running something when they sit in racks of machines running later..... i saw it more as to counteract that
[03:12] <guiverc> anyway - you've thank DarinMiller  - you just reminded I had a HDD failure yesterday. have to ensure my backups are ok before the next drive fails..  (my mind went to what old OSes i have running I ignore...)
[03:14] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller, guiverc: One more summary
[03:14] <DarinMiller> ok.  I sure hope those organization would have better schedulng reminders to pro-actively address vs randomly relying on a news feed to assist running their company or operation.
[03:14] <DarinMiller> OK.
[03:15] <tsimonq2> Wait, actually two more.
[03:15] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: One is the Kubuntu Podcast ;)
[03:16] <DarinMiller> Though I appreciate Michel's work, I am not a fan of phoronix summaries.  I would much rather point directly to the  new source he reference than to summarize his summary.
[03:17] <DarinMiller> Oh, I have not seen the last podcast so I would have to watch it before I summarize....
[03:17] <tsimonq2> DarinMiller: Would you like to do that? :)
[03:18] <DarinMiller> sure, I will watch the podcast and summarize accordingly.
[03:19] <tsimonq2> Yay! Thanks! :)
[03:26] <DarinMiller> An hour and 21 minutes.  Not sure how consisely summarize ~1.5hrs of video...
[03:29] <guiverc> thanks DarinMiller - i hate video :)
[03:34] <guiverc> DarinMiller,  i generally pass at video; the few I've summarized I watched the start where they'd normally tell you what they were going to cover which would be my summary.. on some that interested me I'd watch parts; but not always all.  sometimes i'd also search oogle for .......
[03:36] <guiverc> even if you only limit summary to names of presenters, and topics discussed.   that doesn't require watching all
[03:39] <DarinMiller> I am watching the video to determine if they follow the schedule listed below the video. so far the video seems to follow the script. However, regarding Kubuntu, Ovidiu is way off topic.
[03:39] <DarinMiller> Although, I feel his frustation.
[03:40] <guiverc> :)
[04:43] <guiverc> DarinMiller - congratulations.   just read you're a new Kubuntu member.
[04:43]  * DarinMiller thinks the kubuntu pod cast needs to focus on Kubuntu specific topics and not parrot previously published news...
[04:43] <DarinMiller> thanks guiverc, good to be on board :)
[04:45] <DarinMiller> just finished the kubuntu pod cast video.  The Ham radio section was the only topic that I have not seen published elsewhere. Kubunt has many topics they could cover so I will send my suggestions to Rick T for the  next show.
[04:46] <DarinMiller> time for lunch.  bbl