[05:39] <yummymummy> via the manager
[05:40] <PurpZeY> cwillu: I never realized print sharing was *THAT* simple.
[05:40] <cwillu> :p
[05:40] <jrlenz> pidgin == gaim++;
[05:40] <d31> neeto, startup commands are in /etc/init.d/rc.* google that, there is a fantastic video on youtube that details using rc files
[05:40] <cwillu> !nvidia
[05:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <Shi-Lang> cwillu what do you think my problem is?
[05:40] <dox> yes, but is pidgin better then gaim?
[05:40] <jrlenz> anyone can do a quick walkthrough with me on mounting a freebsd partition in ubuntu?
[05:40] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, which cd drives have you swapped out
[05:40] <neeto> d31: Thanks
[05:40] <cdm10> dox: it's gaim 2.x.x
[05:40] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, is it the same burner each time?
[05:40] <Johnson> hey does anyone use eclipse notice that it opens extremely slowly or is this just my computer
[05:40] <cdm10> Johnson: yeah, it's slow.
[05:40] <jrlenz> dox: it *is* gaim, just upgraded and with a namechange
[05:40] <Shi-Lang> I can only use this burner
[05:40] <cwillu> Johnson, I haven't used eclipse in a few years, but how much memory do you have?
[05:40] <jrlenz> and it seems nicer than the gaim distribution i've been running in fbsd
[05:40] <PurpZeY> dox: Pidgin IS gaim but much much better...They were forced to changed the name
[05:40] <dox> i know, but it is better than the old gaim? ;)
[05:41] <Shi-Lang> as my current dvds are incompatible with all othe rburners
[05:41] <cwillu> Johnson, and do you have a bunch of big workspaces?
[05:41] <cdm10> dox: yes, imho
[05:41] <dox> k
[05:41] <PurpZeY> dox: A trillion times
[05:41] <dox> damnit ;)
[05:41] <Johnson> cwillu 1gb 1gb swap
[05:41] <yummymummy> i will go play with that do i need anything extra installed to run that
[05:41] <dox> cause i wanna use a gaim skin..
[05:41] <Johnson> cwillu only 1 workspace no projects in it
[05:41] <Johnson> just takes forever to open
[05:41] <jmdc> !sleepmode
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleepmode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <jrlenz> so, anyway, i need to mount this freebsd UFS partition.... anyone that has experience or can help with this ?
[05:41] <cwillu> Johnson, define forever
[05:41]  * cwillu is losing track of his conversations, ping him if he's been ignoring you for a while
[05:41] <Johnson> cdm10 do u get an error saying "unable to crea this part due to internal error when u trie to open up a .java file
[05:42] <PurpZeY> dox: I dunno, I've never skinned it, but it is by far the best messenger I've EVER used
[05:42] <Johnson> cwillu i don't know but its much faster on windows
[05:42] <cdm10> Johnson: that's not normal...
[05:42] <jrlenz> hmmmm.
[05:42] <Shi-Lang> cwillu, yes it is the same burner for the DVD'sas it is my only working burner
[05:42] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, I'm concerned that that's the issue (may not be broken per say, but making something incompatible)
[05:42] <Shi-Lang> the cds used a different burner and same problem
[05:42] <Johnson> cdm10 it happens to me every time i open eclipse the first .java file i trie to open errors then i can try again and it will open
[05:42]  * jrlenz time-challenged
[05:42] <yummymummy> cwillu:  i will go read that is there anythign i will need to do it liek extra files this install in pretty new here
[05:43] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, here's a question:
[05:43] <Shi-Lang> k
[05:43] <darkkith> AUTOCOMPL on :
[05:43] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, does a live cd work on the computer that burned it?
[05:43] <kahrytan> How do I add resolution 1440x900 to Resolution panel?
[05:43] <Shi-Lang> I have no idea
[05:43] <cwillu> yummymummy, there's a program I'm trying to remember the name of
[05:43] <PurpZeY> cwillu: Yes.
[05:43] <Shi-Lang> I am not isntalling Linux on my desktop, I am insalling it on a Pentium III
[05:43] <cwillu> yummymummy, mean time, what does "glxinfo | grep -i direct" say?
[05:43] <lewix> hi
[05:43] <Evkaz_43-region> hello
[05:44] <cwillu> PurpZeY, ?
[05:44] <PurpZeY> cwillu: I burned my own LiveCD installed on that machine...
[05:44] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, yes, but just boot the livecd (without actually installing it after it boots)
[05:44] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, just to see if it's something with the piii causing an issue
[05:44] <Shi-Lang> disk checking shows "erors found in 1 file"
[05:45] <PurpZeY> Shi-Lang: Have you tried a different image?
[05:45] <Shi-Lang> umm
[05:45] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, it won't change anything on the computer at all unless you run the installer, and click next a million times
[05:45] <yummymummy> cwillu: direct rendering: Yes
[05:45] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, seriously, try booting it on a different machine if you have one available
[05:45] <Shi-Lang> k theres a problem here, the I/O eror happens when I am installing Linux with the LiveCD, the P3 loads the Live CD just fine
[05:45] <cwillu> yummymummy, glxgears work okay?
[05:45] <cwillu> ahhhh, sorry, missed that Shi-Lang
[05:45] <DrLight> My cousin said I need a serial code for ubuntu. Anybody got one?
[05:45] <alienbrain_> yummymummy, possibly related? http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=41569
[05:45] <yummymummy> i ran the message you suggested
[05:46] <kahrytan> How do I add resolution 1440x900 to Resolution panel?
[05:46] <nickrud> DrLight: someone is pulling your leg
[05:46] <PurpZeY> DrLight: Your cousin has a bad sense of humor
[05:46] <supersako> how can i search for a file?
[05:46] <DrLight> You mean nobody has one?
[05:46] <cwillu> DrLight, you don't need one, it's completely free
[05:46] <DrLight> Oh. Cool.
[05:46] <cwillu> quite :)
[05:46] <DrLight> kahrytan - Edit xorg.conf
[05:46] <alienbrain_> supersako, Places -> Search for files
[05:46] <chapium> supersako: unless i missed something earlier, check the places menu
[05:47] <supersako> ty
[05:47] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, okay, so the machine boots off it fine;  were you the one who tried the netboot as well?
[05:47] <DrLight> Add whatever resolution you want.
[05:47] <yummymummy> DrLight: your cousin was seriously wrong lol
[05:47] <supersako> i just remembered its locate
[05:47] <supersako> :P
[05:47] <kahrytan> DrLight➲  and that is where?
[05:47] <DrLight>  /etc/X11 I think.
[05:47] <alienbrain_> supersako, that's command line one
[05:47] <evsa> hello
[05:47] <DrLight> So do this: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:47] <Shi-Lang> no i wasnt asking about net booting
[05:47] <DrLight> Or sudo gedit, you might like that editor more.
[05:47] <yummymummy> xorg.conf
[05:47]  * cwillu wonders how DrLight knew that, but still asked for a serial :p
[05:47] <DrLight> kekekek
[05:48]  * yummymummy goes for a bit of a read back soon
[05:48] <tssom> lol serial for ubuntu... is your cousin by any chance a stoner?  I'm out.
[05:51] <PurpZeY> tssom: BEST QUESTION EVER
[05:51] <neeto> lol
[05:51] <falieson> hey, if I just drop out a sound card (audigy 2 zs) and put a new one in (x-fi extreme) should it just work? It sees the card but doesn't actually name it, just a series of letters and numbers.
[05:51] <darkkith> tssom, mail order
[05:51] <tssom> darkkith: that leads back to making 10min into 1min
[05:51] <iotis> anyone point me in the right dirrection
[05:51] <PurpZeY> falieson: Does it work?
[05:51] <cwillu> stunatra, you can get it to work under totem (default player), but I haven't had a whole lot of luck making it work perfectly everytime
[05:51] <Randompolygamy> iotis: i would suggest going to their forums
[05:51] <darkkith> tssom, you need super ubuntu help then.
[05:52] <Randompolygamy> iotis: nexus has issues with certin cards
[05:52] <iotis> which of the three
[05:52] <Randompolygamy> oops, lol comps i mean
[05:52] <stunatra> I just have this one particular DVD that won't play on VLC or Totem.
[05:52] <falieson> PurpZeY: well I'm trying to digital out and I'm not getting anything, but I can select modifiers for the outputs
[05:52] <Randompolygamy> s/cards/comps/
[05:52] <iotis> forums
[05:52] <darkkith> stunatra, mplayer
[05:52] <Randompolygamy> iotis: pick one with support in the topic
[05:52] <Shi-Lang> as far as I know the ISO's I downlaoded had perfect hashes
[05:52] <bazhang> stunatra: which one?
[05:52] <grekkos> what does it mean if i get the message "svn: SSL is not supported?"
[05:53] <Shi-Lang> but 1 file in particular has errors
[05:53] <Shi-Lang> each and every time
[05:53] <PurpZeY> falieson: the card should just work, unless it is not supported or needs a work around
[05:53] <Shi-Lang> without fail
[05:53] <Shi-Lang> and i think its the same file
[05:53] <Randompolygamy> iotis: im unframilure with their forums but i have been there once or twice and the frown upon support issues in the chat sections
[05:54] <iotis> anyone here got a nexus-s working, that can give me some ideas
[05:55] <Shi-Lang> is there a way to boot ubuntu over the network? maybe avoid the issue of a faulty file
[05:55] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, double check the iso hash sums, or try installing a base system from the alternate cd, and then install ubuntu-desktop by hand
[05:55] <jmdc> My laptop does not wake up properly from sleep mode. I get a black screen with the string "Linu" in yellow at the top left. nothing else happens for a couple of minutes. Nothing is written to the logs at all during this time.
[05:55] <Shi-Lang> theres a way to install by hand?
[05:55] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, you can do a netboot if your network card supports pxe (which you'll probably have to enable via the bios)
[05:55] <tssom> huh :S i find my self starting to wite a  reply to lots of people on irc (not just #ubuntu) but i end up just hiting backspace. this happens more and more. what does this mean?
[05:55] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, or you can use wabi if there's a windows install on it already
[05:55] <Flannel> !install | Shi-Lang
[05:55] <ubotu> Shi-Lang: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:55] <cwillu> !wabi
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wabi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <bazhang> wubi?
[05:56] <tssom> i mean, most of the time, i do it coz i feel that the person will get hurt
[05:56] <cwillu> that's the one :p
[05:56] <cwillu> !wubi
[05:56] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[05:56] <falieson> PurpZeY: thanks - just wanted to make sure
[05:56] <falieson> PurpZeY: I got the card because I was having trouble with digital out on my audigy2zs
[05:56] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, for a net install, you'll probably need to run another live cd on a different machine that has one preloaded;  can't name one off haned
[05:56] <Shi-Lang> ic thanks
[05:57] <falieson> PurpZeY: just trying to minimize the variables, thanks again
[05:57] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, if you're willing, you can also install to that hard drive in a different machine, and then just put it back into the pentium
[05:57] <cwillu> assuming that the machine is the problem (which we're not sure that it is)
[06:00] <Shi-Lang> I wish I had a Playstation 3 to install Ubuntu onto
[06:01] <darkkith> tssom, probably means your smoke is overdue
[06:01] <darkkith> tssom, or its too late and time for bed.  like me.
[06:01] <darkkith> gnite
[06:01] <_MattB> is it possible to do a block for block copy at the device level? for instance copy /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[06:01] <nickrud> tssom: maturity?
[06:01] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, I'm still puzzled you're having so many problems
[06:01] <cwillu> _MattB, yep
[06:01] <haymaker> does anyone use stalonetray?
[06:02] <cwillu> _MattB, dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=65536 is my usual incantation
[06:02] <_MattB> excellent, that should be most helpful :)
[06:02] <cwillu> _MattB, netcat combined with that allows all sorts of fun :)
[06:03] <cwillu> _MattB, i.e., livecd, live cloning another running system ;p
[06:04] <_MattB> i'm upgrading a raid5 array to a raid6, but i'm going to create the raid6 first, copy it over, then destroy the raid5
[06:04] <Shi-Lang> im installing base system on the cmputer but it seems to hang at 83%
[06:05] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, try booting up with all the nodma args set (can't name them offhand), and install that way
[06:05] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, you can reenable dma after it's installed, but I have a hunch that it's related
[06:05] <Shi-Lang> im unsure how to do that
[06:05] <hunchybunch> Shi-Lang, i think that's about the time it installs language packs, i think that is normal
[06:06] <Bachiir> I'm having a problem with my video playback. Everything ends up tinted blue in the playback. If I play my movies in mplayer, I can edit the hue to be normal, but it always resets to -100, making everything blue. Other programs do not have this option, so if I want to play a video not supported by mplayer, then I'm stuck with a blue movie. Is there any way I can set the hue to be normal by default... like, is this in some configuratio
[06:06] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, one sec
[06:06] <mattholimeau> does anyone know how to make a local network interface that is up not resolvable locally?
[06:06] <mattholimeau> or what chatroom i should ask that in?
[06:07] <telee> anyone know of a flash player alternative for amd64bit?
[06:07] <mattholimeau> telee, are you trying to integrate it into firefox?
[06:07] <mattholimeau> or are you looking for an external flash player?
[06:07] <telee> yeah
[06:07] <telee> i guess both
[06:07] <Shi-Lang> if its easier you can always email the instructions t me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:07] <telee> but mostly firefox
[06:07] <mattholimeau> yeah - hold on, lemme dig up a link for you
[06:07] <hunchybunch> Bachiir, maybe you don't have all the wincodecs and restricted stuff installed
[06:07] <telee> sweet thanks
[06:07] <mattholimeau> you need to run firefox in 32 bit mode
[06:07] <mattholimeau> !64amd
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64amd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <mattholimeau> it was something like that to this bot, too, heh
[06:08] <Shi-Lang> Configuring apt!!!!!!!!
[06:08] <Bachiir> Well, it all works fine if I can manually set the hue to 0. The funny thing is that it resets to -100 every time I open the program.
[06:08] <Shi-Lang> it go past the 83% mark
[06:08] <Bachiir> And other programs I can't even set the hue on, which is my problem.
[06:08] <Shi-Lang> but ild appreciate the non nodma args instruction just the same
[06:08] <telee> mattholimeau, thanks
[06:09] <mattholimeau> hmmm - hard to find...
[06:09] <mattholimeau> oh, oh
[06:09] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, heh
[06:09] <grekkos> what does it mean if i get the message 'svn: SSL not supported' when i try to make a check out
[06:09] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, still looking, but almost found it
[06:09] <evil_tech> could someone point me to a good how to on giving kernel and module paramaters at boot
[06:09] <evil_tech> ?
[06:09] <cwillu> evil_tech, one sec
[06:10] <cwillu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[06:10] <mattholimeau> this is from the faq i wrote myself (sorry for the copy/paste length - but it's very useful)
[06:10] <mattholimeau> FLASH/JAVA FIREFOX CONFIG----------------------------------------
[06:10] <mattholimeau> to get firefox working correctly with flash and java, you need to configure it to run a 32 bit firefox and copy the 32 bit files directly into the firefox plugins directory. Instructions were from:
[06:10] <mattholimeau> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:10] <mattholimeau> it was only three lines... so, i hope not too intrusive... of course, my typing has made it five
[06:10] <mattholimeau> six... but these don't count, heheh
[06:10] <evil_tech> cwillu: thank you
[06:11] <d31> mattholimeau, nice article, i found myself needing an article like that last night, ended up finding a forum post on ubuntuforums  that had a solution
[06:12] <Shi-Lang> tanks m8
[06:12] <telee> mattholimeau, thanks man, much help
[06:12] <telee> i appreciate it
[06:12] <PurpZeY> !ot > PurpZeY
[06:12] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, I'm not finding any hits post dapper
[06:12] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, used to be ide=nodma
[06:13] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, irqpoll _might_ be related, but I'm doubting it
[06:13] <zhan_zr> !gtk | zhan_zr
[06:15] <Shi-Lang> so what are you saying exactly cwillu?
[06:15] <Shi-Lang> FRIGGIN, select and install software step failed
[06:16] <Shi-Lang> of the alternative install
[06:16] <PLSshowyourhelp> 8-)
[06:16] <Shi-Lang> trying again and seeing fi theres any different
[06:16] <Shai_A> anyone here knows when a fix for the flash plugin is supposed to be released? approximately? I'm new to linux so I don't know how long it usually takes...
[06:17] <PurpZeY> Shai_A: No word on that one....It was a really unexpected glitch that isn't a quick fix. It is uncommon
[06:18] <bullgard4> I have got a binary file /usr/bin/gnome-power-manager. Where do I get the source code from?
[06:18] <grekkos> I've always had issues with flash in linux
[06:18] <grekkos> and on mac os too
[06:18] <PurpZeY> bullgard4: you want the source of power manager?
[06:18] <fallore> Shai_A: do you need help getting flash installed, or just want to know when the automatic installations will be fixed?
[06:19] <Shi-Lang> how nessasary is the select and install software step?
[06:19] <Shai_A> fallore: the latter
[06:19] <evil_tech> has any know if the ubuntu kernel has been patched to support IT8212 ide controller?
[06:19] <Shi-Lang> can it be done later?
[06:19] <evsa> hola Krodolfo
[06:19] <fallore> Shai_A: ah, dunno. sorry
[06:19] <evsa> q onda
[06:19] <Krodolfo> hi how are u doing guys?
[06:19] <fallore> !es | evsa
[06:19] <ubotu> evsa: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:19] <tssom> im drinking juice with liqerish strings ^^
[06:19] <jmdc> !suspend
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <Krodolfo> cool
[06:20] <PurpZeY> jmdc: Feisty or Gutsy?
[06:20] <MrDinkles> Is the a workaround for Flashplayer yet? I still get you already have flash-nonfree installed-- but its not installed...
[06:20] <drgeb> When I reboot my machine I have to log in twice, the first time the X server is restarted. Also there is a strange black cursor in upper leeft and corner and ideas how to fix this ?
[06:20] <pregunton> oye evsa y de que podemos hablar?
[06:20] <Krodolfo> i going to drink monster drink its is good for me :D
[06:20] <WinShade> !food
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <evsa> thanks ubotu
[06:20] <PurpZeY> !es | pregunton
[06:20] <ubotu> pregunton: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:20] <fallore> i could go for some food :[
[06:20] <jmdc> PurpZeY: Gutsy
[06:20] <bullgard4> PurpZeY: I think I expressed myself clearly: I should like to obtain the source code of the /usr/bin/gnome-poer-manager file. 'power manager' is not an unambiguous term.
[06:20] <WinShade> i know...
[06:20] <tssom> !girls
[06:20] <Shi-Lang> how nessasary is the select and install software step?
[06:20] <ubotu> Girls don't exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/
[06:20] <Shi-Lang> can it be done later?
[06:20] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, I'm gone for 20 minutes (time to go home), but I'll be back when I get there
[06:20] <WinShade> so hungry
[06:20] <evsa> but I speak english too
[06:20] <WinShade> HAHAHHA
[06:20] <evsa> hey man
[06:20] <pregunton> mee too
[06:21] <WinShade> !moo
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <evsa> what's up pregunton??
[06:21] <evsa> how r u??
[06:21] <PurpZeY> bullgard4: Not sure how you'd go about getting the actual source...suppose you could decompile it...I dunno if it's "out there" maybe someone else does
[06:21] <pregunton> im fine tks
[06:21] <pregunton> and you?
[06:21] <pregunton> XD
[06:21] <evsa> so
[06:21] <evsa> here
[06:21] <evsa> trying ubuntu
[06:21] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, I'm actually better setup for troubleshooting there anyway (more disposable machines, monitors, etc)
[06:21] <evsa> with all power
[06:21] <pregunton> Vista is better XD
[06:22] <evsa> yes
[06:22] <Krodolfo> lol
[06:22] <Krodolfo> vista...
[06:22] <Shi-Lang> kk
[06:22] <evsa> krodolf
[06:22] <cwillu> brb
[06:22] <PLSshowyourhelp> Is there someone know which flash plus is good,adobe or gnome?
[06:23] <astro76> !flashissues | PLSshowyourhelp
[06:23] <ubotu> PLSshowyourhelp: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:23] <bullgard4> PurpZeY: ok.
[06:24] <PLSshowyourhelp> o?
[06:25] <PLSshowyourhelp> i see,ths
[06:25] <evsa> 8[06:26] <astro76> !ohmy | evsa
[06:26] <ubotu> evsa: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:26] <__mikem> !ops | evsa
[06:26] <ubotu> evsa: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[06:27] <nickrud> bullgard4: to find the source for a package (there may be an easier way) find it on packages.ubuntu.com, it will have the source package name at the bottom of it's page
[06:28] <jerg> slt
[06:28] <pregunton> evsa says fuckin all
[06:28] <jerg> bonjour
[06:28] <astro76> !ops | pregunton
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[06:29] <astro76> !fr | jerg
[06:29] <ubotu> jerg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:29] <gnychis> does anyone know why I might be getting this error "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error" trying to do this "sudo hdparm -B255 /dev/sda" on a SATA drive?
[06:29] <__mikem> elkbuntu, You got to wonder, did he actually ASK someone to come in here just to curse us out?
[06:29] <jerg> thx ubotu and astro
[06:30] <tssom> !wtf
[06:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <elkbuntu> __mikem, no, because pregunton was here all along
[06:30] <tssom> !ubotu
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[06:30] <__mikem> elkbuntu, well thats even stranger
[06:30] <nickrud> gnychis: since it's a sata drive not pata ?
[06:30] <elkbuntu> not really. lets not give them any attention.. they do not deserve it
[06:30] <gnychis> nickrud: what do i do then?
[06:31] <nickrud> gnychis: there's a sdparm, don't know it's capabilities
[06:31] <jmdc> HP bios updates are windows executables that flash your bios rom. Is there a good way to use them without a windows partition?
[06:32] <astro76> jmdc: hmm they don't have boot floppies or any alternatives?
[06:32] <drgeb> anyone know where I can take a look at a sample of gdm.conf-custom
[06:32] <Krodolfo> )*(
[06:32] <Krodolfo> hi guys i going to present to you all my little friend Mr. 8[06:32] <astro76> !ops | Krodolfo
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[06:32] <bullgard4> nickrud: Yesterday I have used an equivalent command-line command for 'packages.ubuntu.com'. I obtained the information that the associated DEB program package is 'gnome-power-manager'. This package is installed in my computer. I found out that it does not contain the source code of the /usr/bin/gnome-power-manager binary.
[06:33] <__mikem> lol, this is getting kind of funny
[06:33] <nickrud> bullgard4: apt-get source gnome-power-manager
[06:33] <astro76> __mikem: pathetic more like it
[06:33] <nickrud> bullgard4: it's not the same
[06:33] <jerg> http://space-land.c.la/   good game
[06:33] <WinShade> gnite ubuntuers and thx for the help
[06:34] <jmdc> astro76: It doesn't look like it. What are the odds that running it from wine will work/fry my computer?
[06:34] <Onyx> every time i start a gtk app from terminal, i get this error... Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "aurora", --anyone know how to fix that?
[06:34] <bullgard4> nickrud: Is there an equivalent Synaptic command to " apt-get source xyz"?
[06:34] <PurpZeY> jmdc: Eghz....I'd search the forums to see if perhaps anyone has done it.
[06:34] <astro76> jmdc: I'm not sure
[06:35] <trey> hello, i was wondering if someone could help out with a problem im having, im running ubuntu 7.10 and using the latest version of wine and am trying to run half life 2 but when i try to start it i get the loading screen and then it goes black
[06:35] <nickrud> bullgard4: in synaptic? I'm not sure
[06:35] <PurpZeY> trey: You running compiz?
[06:35] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you very much for your help.
[06:35] <trey> compiz?
[06:35] <PurpZeY> trey: Desktop effects.
[06:36] <trey> Purpzey:not that i know of how can i check?
[06:36] <nickrud> bullgard4: a point to remember: one source package may create multiple binary debs. There's roughly 8000 source packages and 20000 deb packages
[06:36] <PurpZeY> trey: Do you have wobbly windows?
[06:36] <PurpZeY> trey: Or rotating cube
[06:36] <trey> Purpzey:no
[06:36] <stunatra> Any idea WHY they enabled the desktop effects by default on Gutsy?
[06:36] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you for explaining.
[06:37] <punsad> if I don't boot into X, how can I get my wifi card to automatically do iwconfig?
[06:37] <punsad> should I just put together a script and symlink it in /etc/rc2.d?
[06:37] <PurpZeY> trey: System --> Pref --> Desktop Effects or whatever it's called and make sure it's off completely...If it is, then we can look further, but, it would definitely cause that issue.
[06:37] <nickrud> punsad: you would create a stanza in /etc/network/interfaces to bring it up
[06:38]  * knoppix
[06:38] <Onyx> every time i start a gtk app from terminal, i get this error... Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "aurora", --anyone know how to fix that?
[06:38] <jmdc> trey: A really good resource is the wine website. They have a database of software that people have tried under wine, how it worked for them, bug fixes, etc. Lots of common problems are found there. Not taking anything away from the people who are helping you now, just thought you should know about it so you can help yourself ;-)
[06:38]  * knoppix
[06:38] <nickrud> Onyx: try a different theme
[06:38] <trey> Purpzey:visual effects under appearance preferences? if so its off
[06:38] <jhlxd> knoppix very slow
[06:38] <Onyx> nickrud: To see if the error replicates?  I like the theme I'm using...
[06:38] <jmdc> sorry to be offtopic but I misread that and saw: "Knoppix is now know as poo"
[06:38] <PurpZeY> trey: Yes, that's it. If it's off, I'd look at the forums or the Wine website.
[06:39] <punsad> nickrud: there is already one that says auto wlan0.  how do I tell it essid and key and mode?
[06:39] <trey> Purpzey:thats what im doing now though i have not yet found anything thats like the problem im having
[06:40] <punsad> there's one   that says auto ath \n iface ath0 inet dhcp
[06:40] <Tokorona> I'm trying to work on walking someone through telling Ubuntu not to partition
[06:40] <nickrud> Onyx: sounds like the theme wants a particular engine, I see it at http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Gtk+Engine?content=56438 . It's not in ubuntu and I'm not familiar with it. You could compile it ...
[06:40] <Tokorona> Is there any walkthrough or such?
[06:40] <Tokorona> (or Howto, or FAQ)
[06:40] <PurpZeY> Tokorona: Did you already setup your partitions?
[06:41] <nickrud> punsad: ah, now thats a different question :) I've never done it so, sadly, all I can do is point you at man interfaces .
[06:41] <punsad> there's also one that says auto wlan0 \nnn iface ath0 inet dhcp
[06:41] <Tokorona> I think she only has one partition for everything
[06:41] <Tokorona> Oh, right.
[06:41] <Tokorona> You're right, /boot needs to be a seperate partition.
[06:41] <nickrud> punsad: I've only set up wired ethernet there. I didn't get wireless until recently and networkmanager has worked for me
[06:42] <PurpZeY> Tokorona: Need boot and swap
[06:42] <elkbuntu> Tokorona, she's going to need a swap partition at least
[06:42] <nickrud> no, boot does not need to be a separate partition (wonders why that myth persists)
[06:42] <Onyx> nickrud: Yeah, I've got that -- compiled it, which is how it got on my system...
[06:42] <lwizardl> Hi
[06:42] <nickrud> Onyx: so it seems to be saying it can't find it
[06:42]  * PurpZeY pulls back his statement.
[06:42] <Flannel> Tokorona: /boot doesn't need to be on its own.  / and swap are the only ones you need.  (boot is only needed if the rest is LVM)
[06:42] <lwizardl> can i get help with ubuntu for ps3?
[06:42] <punsad> nickrud: np.  thanks.. lookss like the post-up <command> might do it
[06:42] <rodolfo> Tokorona: what's the difference between "/" and "/home"?
[06:42] <PLSshowyourhelp> when i change my language, it alert that "could not apply changes!Fix broken packages first.",but i don't know how to do this~
[06:42]  * PurpZeY was really thinking if / and swap
[06:42] <PurpZeY> of*
[06:42] <elkbuntu> nickrud, confusion between hd0 and /boot
[06:42] <punsad> r9d9of9p'
[06:42] <Shai_A> I have a problem with aMule: when loading the program for the first time, it doesn't detect any servers and when I try to press the button that's supposed to load a list of servers from somewhere, it crashes. Any ideas?
[06:43] <Shai_A> maybe another program I can use?
[06:43] <Tokorona> Rodofolo: Eh.. I suppose you could put /home on a seperate partition than /
[06:43] <Tokorona> I don't, though, because I don't really know in advance how much space I'll use in either
[06:43] <PurpZeY> PLSshowyourhelp: It means you are missing the language packages or other packages for things you're trying to turn on.
[06:43] <nickrud> elkbuntu: I did forget (if I ever really knew) what flannel said, and I guess back in the day /boot did need to be at the front of the partition, but still
[06:43] <Flannel> rodolfo: /home is where everything *you* personally own is in (well, users as a whole), and / is where everything else is (everything that doesnt have its own partition)
[06:43] <trey> Shai_A:you have to find another server list by searching google
[06:43] <nickrud> s/partition/disk/
[06:43] <Shai_A> trey: I see
[06:44] <sam__> can any one please help me in streaming????
[06:44] <Shai_A> Why does this error occur? I tried installing the program twice and it's the same thing each time
[06:44] <Tokorona> In any case, yeah, I'm trying to remember the dialogue options that gets you to "I will manually set up my apratitions."
[06:44] <astro76> nickrud: yeah it used to have to below cylinder 1024
[06:44] <nickrud> Tokorona: on an ubuntu install, 15gb is plenty for root
[06:45] <rodolfo> Flannel: I don't get it. They are the same or they represent different partitions?
[06:45] <trey> Shai_A:im not sure but i think the default server list is out of date and no longer works and thats why it has to be replaced
[06:45] <PLSshowyourhelp> PurpZeY: what can i do?
[06:45] <nickrud> astro76: my first linux task was rearranging partitions for lilo :)
[06:45] <astro76> Shai_A: well that's good because reinstalling things never fixes anything in linux ;)
[06:45] <PurpZeY> PLSshowyourhelp: Download the missing packages
[06:45] <Shai_A> I few days ago I was still using XP :)
[06:46] <PLSshowyourhelp> PurpZeY: please give me a example
[06:46] <lwizardl> msg ubotu flash
[06:46] <PurpZeY> PLSshowyourhelp: You would use synaptic to install the packages you are missing
[06:46] <Flannel> rodolfo: / contains /home and everything else (/var, /usr, /etc, etc) however, you *can* make dedicated partitions for any arbitrary folder and use it as that folder
[06:46] <PLSshowyourhelp> PurpZeY: sudo apt-get ... -f     ?
[06:47] <nickrud> Onyx: where did you install it to?
[06:47] <PurpZeY> PLSshowyourhelp: I don't know what packages are broken or missing
[06:48] <PLSshowyourhelp> openoffice.org-l10n-zh-cn (1663k)
[06:48] <PLSshowyourhelp> openoffice.org-l10n-zh-tw (1655k)
[06:48] <PLSshowyourhelp> openoffice.org-help-zh-cn (10.7M)
[06:48] <PLSshowyourhelp> openoffice.org-help-zh-tw (10.9M)
[06:48] <astro76> !paste | PLSshowyourhelp
[06:48] <elkbuntu> !paste > PLSshowyourhelp
[06:48] <ubotu> PLSshowyourhelp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:48] <astro76> PLSshowyourhelp:  it's just 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[06:48] <Leechzilla> I want to compile stuff into .deb packages to put on my site for other people to download and use. What app can I use for this? I was told that checkinstall can break my system.
[06:49] <astro76> !packaging | Leechzilla
[06:49] <ubotu> Leechzilla: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[06:49] <PurpZeY> checkinstall breaks systems?
[06:49] <Leechzilla> Ah
[06:49] <astro76> Leechzilla: checkinstall is ok, but is a quick hack and no good for distribution
[06:49] <PLSshowyourhelp> astro76: I'll try
[06:49] <astro76> Leechzilla: no dependency info
[06:49] <Leechzilla> ah okay
[06:51] <rodolfo> Flannel: so you mean that "/" is the father of any other partition created...is it?
[06:52] <rxKaffee> anyone happen to know if ubuntu, or other .deb based systems have a package that contains FReeBSD's 'csup' cvs-fetching utility?
[06:53] <sam__> i am getting RTSP/1.0 461 Unsupported Transport from rtsp server?????????????
[06:54] <puargs> Hi! I have a question: I totally borked my network settings. I installed/removed dhcpd, installed/removed firestarter, and was messing with ifconfig. Suddenly, neither of my eth connections will connect to the internet. they will both resolve a proper IP, but no internet. is there anywhere i can start to fix this?
[06:54] <chrisslamar> anyone out here running vmware server?
[06:54] <Shi-Lang> anyoneone know is if cwillu came back from work?
[06:55] <nickrud> Shi-Lang: no, he's still away
[06:55] <rxKaffee> puargs: could try clearing your iptables out
[06:56] <moidekar> chrisslamar: yes, but on Mandriva 2008 PP, not Ubuntu
[06:56] <nickrud> puargs: is there anything in resolv.conf ? that's the dns resolver
[06:56] <puargs> rx: how might i do that?
[06:57] <nickrud> puargs: pointers to dns servers, more accurately
[06:57] <puargs> nick: just <IP_ADDRESS>, which should be correct
[06:58] <puargs> was there before, still there now
[06:58] <markd> Yep.
[06:58] <chrisslamar> moidekar: have you ever run into networking problems, such as getting the guest os to see the outside network?
[06:58] <nickrud> puargs: that was the limit of my networking ideas :)
[06:58] <puargs> lol :D thank you
[06:58] <atoponce> i'm in need of lvm help. i already had a fs in place, and decided to put lvm on top of it. will this wipe my data, or am i good to continue?
[06:59] <Flannel> rodolfo: no, / is a "label" you give to a partition.  Partitions are physical things (theyre sections of the disk), the folder things are sematics more or less.  Just how linux uses those partitions
[06:59] <markd> puargs: can you ping ips outside the network?
[06:59] <moidekar> chrisslamar: yes, when I attempted NAT and host-to-host. Currently, after reinstalling VMwS, I configured it to just bridge my VMs onto the physical LAN card
[06:59] <atoponce> i did pvcreate and vgcreate, then decided to back out with vgremove and pvremove. however, now ext3 is no longer the fs on the devices. can i get ext3 back without losing my data?
[06:59] <Flannel> atoponce: Yes, it'll reformat as a 'lvm' partition (lvm is akin to ext3 or any other filesystem)
[06:59] <atoponce> Flannel: so, i lost my data then?
[06:59] <moidekar> chrisslamar: bridging works fine - haven't had probs so far
[07:00] <tssom> The ubuntu howtos are some of the most fun (yeh fun) and easy yet insightfull howtos i've ever read. For every passing hour i'm getting closer to removing vista ^
[07:00] <Flannel> atoponce: If you reformatted yeah, reformats are reformats.
[07:00] <atoponce> Flannel: does pvcreate reformat?
[07:01] <chrisslamar> moidekar: did you just setup your bridging out of the box or did you do anything special to configure it?
[07:01] <tssom> !filesystem
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <puargs> markd: i don't believe so, hang on rebooting the machine
[07:01] <atoponce> Flannel: hmm. reading the man page, it looks like it. crap
[07:01] <markd> puargs: sounds good.
[07:01] <atoponce> and i don't have a backup...
[07:02] <tssom> !filestructure
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filestructure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <puargs> booya!
[07:03] <puargs> connection working again
[07:03] <puargs> no clue why, not gonna question it
[07:03] <tssom> Where can i read about the filesystem in linux? Like what is /usr for waht about /lib ? and so on
[07:03] <moidekar> chrisslamar: I don't remember exactly what the config answers were, but: a) I told vmware-config.pl that I wanted a bridged network, and said no to NAT & host-only. b) While creating VMs, chose the "Bridged" radio button for the VM in VMwS console... does that not work for you?
[07:03] <Flannel> tssom: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[07:03] <puargs> thanks all :D
[07:03] <markd> Yay magical rebbot.
[07:04] <Flannel> tssom: http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg is a succinct one too
[07:04] <tssom> Flannel: sweet thanks :)
[07:04] <tssom> that should be added to the bot tbh
[07:04] <moidekar> chrisslamar: I dunno if this is not unique to my setup, but I had another problem - vmnet-dhcpd was running away and grabbing tons of mem, leading to swap-thrash. I simply renamed the binary file instead of having to kill -9 it on every boot :-)
[07:04] <Flannel> tssom: mind you, Ubuntu does do *some* stuff differently slightly, but its more or less the same
[07:05] <shawnmstout> hey all
[07:06] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, ping
[07:06] <tssom> Flannel: Would you mind elaborating on that?
[07:06] <jjgan> hello every one
[07:06] <tssom> hi
[07:07] <jjgan> do you know where i can found some doc to know how to interact with HAL
[07:07] <Flannel> !files | tssom, this is the best they have
[07:07] <ubotu> tssom, this is the best they have: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[07:07] <chrisslamar> moidekar: the only problem that im having is that the bridging isn't working right.  i've messed around with all different kinds of network options and nothing works
[07:07] <jjgan> basiquely i want to run a script when a mase storage device is pluggued
[07:07] <shawnmstout> i know some docs on how to interact with ted
[07:07] <cwillu> jjgan, apropos hal should give you a bit
[07:07] <shawnmstout> just playing man
[07:07] <tssom> thanks again
[07:08] <chrisslamar> moidekar: im wondering if it's something todo with ubuntu, since it's not on the supported list
[07:08] <sksol> hey guys
[07:08] <moidekar> chrisslamar: well, probably not much chance I can help, since it works fine for me right now... but you wanna mention what probs you're having?
[07:08] <cwillu> jjgan, man hald
[07:08] <shawnmstout> hey sksol
[07:08] <sksol> my network icon dissapeared from the notification area
[07:08] <sksol> how can i bring it back? :)
[07:08] <shawnmstout> did u check to see if your network cable is plugged in and your getting signal from that port on the router?
[07:08] <sksol> im connectd to wireless
[07:09] <tssom> Flannel: ok, lets say, i've been using ubuntu for about a year now, and im really starting to get the hang of it. where would i stand if i was to try out slackware with the knowledge i've gained from using ubuntu?
[07:09] <shawnmstout> oh ok
[07:09] <jjgan> man hald and apropos hald isn t enought
[07:09] <cwillu> sksol, open a terminal, and run ps aux|grep Network
[07:09] <sksol> did that
[07:09] <sksol> i see a couple of lines of  output
[07:10] <cwillu> sksol, did you get NetworkManager showing up?
[07:10] <Flannel> tssom: I'm really not the best person to ask that question.  It really depends on what you've done over the course of a year (or more specifically, what issues you've overcome).  A better place to ask would be #ubuntu-offtopic, as well.
[07:10] <sksol> root      5110  0.0  0.1  28952  2172 ?        Ssl  Jan08   0:00 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid
[07:10] <sksol> the first two lines
[07:10] <cwillu> one sec
[07:11] <trey> im still getting a black screen when trying to play half life 2 and was wondering if anyone had any other advice, compuiz is off fyi
[07:11] <tssom> Flannel: ok, this is off-topic i know. but i dont want to start using a linux distro that is TO userfriendly if you know what i mean. i want to learn how use linux to. anyways thanks for you help.
[07:12] <sksol> so yea, i do have network manager running
[07:12] <dxdt> tssom: TOO you mean?
[07:12] <Flannel> tssom: Do what I did-- ditch the GUI ;)
[07:12] <cwillu> tssom, you could just work on getting more familiar with darker corners of it
[07:12] <dxdt> ditch the gui or go with Arch, which I feel is a nice inbetween or hard distros and completely user friendly distros.
[07:12] <cwillu> tssom, troubleshooting problems you think you can help with on this here channel is good exercise too :p
[07:13] <fsanlu> is there a way to safely remove hardware (so i can mount it properly) in linux? lets say i accidentally didnt, and now it wont mount..
[07:13] <abhi_> i came across the most ridiculous product yet. McAffee Linux shield. can anyone tell me how do viruses 'pass' through a Linux environment?
[07:13] <Flannel> fsanlu: right click the (desktop icon) and click unmount
[07:13] <abhi_> i mean it has to be the most hogwash product i ever heard of!
[07:13] <tssom> dxdt: spellchecking is lame. Flannel: sounds scary :P cwillu: good point :)
[07:13] <cwillu> abhi_, well, they do exist, they're just limited in damage potential
[07:14] <sksol> any ideas guys? my network icon dissapeared from the notification area... network manager is running
[07:14] <cwillu> abhi_, more common for checking files served by linux (web, fileserver, email)
[07:14] <fsanlu> Flannel: no lets say its already unmounted unsafely, and when i plug it in. the thing i did to fix that before was to plug it in a windows machine and safely rmeove it there.. it then fixed it.. can i do that somehow in linux?
[07:14] <abhi_> cwillu: ah...
[07:14] <cwillu> sksol, system | network , and tell me if roaming is enabled
[07:14] <abhi_> abhi_: yes that i can understand running server side virus scanners
[07:15] <abhi_> cwillu: yes that i can understand running server side virus scanners
[07:15] <sksol> yes, it is
[07:15] <cwillu> abhi_, and some places are required to run something to fulfill some company regulation, regardless of the os;  it sucks, but having a product means they can sidestep the whole problem
[07:15] <sksol> ok, all i did is accidentally removed it from the panel
[07:15] <cwillu> sksol, did you remove the whole notification area maybe?
[07:15] <sksol> i did, but i got it back
[07:15] <cwillu> sksol, if so, just right click, add to panel, find notification, and add it
[07:15] <abhi_> cwillu: but really what potential does a virus have on linux? u need to execute malicious code as super user and u need to do it intentionally
[07:15] <Flannel> fsanlu: right, the "safely remove hardware" thing is the same as unmounting it.  What is happening (is this a camera card by any chance?) is whatever originally found and moounted it upon insertion is having issues because you yanked it out from under it.  A restart will fix it (thats overkill), restarting whatever service handles that should work too (I dont know which though)
[07:15] <sksol> but that icon is still not showing
[07:15] <lewwy> sdg
[07:16] <cwillu> sksol, k, relogging would fix it, but I think there's another way
[07:16] <sksol> hmm
[07:16] <sksol> lemme try
[07:16] <emmatiia> Hi, I have a problem with installing PHP5 on my system
[07:16] <abhi_> cwillu: so it's totally counter productive to have a virus scanner running on a Ubuntu desktop
[07:16] <sksol> ill be back
[07:16] <cwillu> sksol, I think you can kill NetworkManager, have it restart, and it'll bring back the icon, but I'm not dead sure on that
[07:16] <Hammer89> hello... I just installed Ubuntu... and noticed that it's not recognizing my headphone jack... is there any way to fix that?
[07:16] <sam__>  i guess no one wanna help me ... ok.
[07:16] <sksol> ill just try relog :)
[07:16] <mnemonica> Hey, I'm having some issues with wine, any body in here that can help me out? Trying to get WoW to work.
[07:16] <cwillu> abhi_, well, it's not strictly necessary, but I wouldn't necessarily say counter productive (although the performance loss with some of them may be)
[07:17] <cwillu> mnemonica, what issues?
[07:17] <emmatiia> When I tried to download php5 either via package manager or console, it says the package is corrupt
[07:17] <cwillu> Hammer89, laptop?
[07:17] <abhi_> cwillu: i think it's just not necessary. the very concept of a virus scanner defies the security principles of Linux/Unix
[07:17] <lewwy> hey guys, i just installed mythbuntu onto my media pc, and the wireless network (NetGear 54g) isn't working properly.  Network manager attempts to connect to the wireless network, and one green light goes on in the icon, but it stays that way.  Any ideas?
[07:17] <cwillu> abhi_, well...
[07:17] <fsanlu> Flannel, oh its an external HDD.. thanks ill try to play with it..
[07:17] <fsanlu> :]
[07:17] <cwillu> abhi_, defense in depth is a valid concept
[07:17] <mnemonica> cwillu, it's instatlled, and it starts up and whatnot. But as soon as it gets past the introduction movie it crashes.
[07:18] <Hammer89> cwillu: yes... toshiba satellite
[07:18] <cwillu> abhi_, definately useful for anything acting as a server for one, and in some environments it might be prudent;  the fact that 99% of a population doesn't need something doesn't mean that the product isn't useful to the last 1%
[07:18] <cwillu> mnemonica, what video card?
[07:18] <cwillu> mnemonica, and what version of wine?
[07:19] <cwillu> !audio
[07:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:19] <abhi_> cwillu i think ppl should stop running crapware like Vista and switch to Gutsy!
[07:19] <Sonicadvance> :P
[07:19] <cwillu> Hammer89, ^^^
[07:19] <emmatiia> When I tried to download php5 either via package manager or console, it says the package is corrupt. Any help?
[07:19] <Hammer89> cwillu: thanks
[07:19] <abhi_> cwillu: then i will see where we get 'viruses' from. i mean McAffee is the heights they even have a virus scanner for running on a Mac Desktop!!!
[07:19] <cwillu> Hammer89, play around with alsamixer as well, but often it can get a bit complicated
[07:19] <mnemonica> cwillu, latest version of wine... Where would I find what video card I have. I can't remember for whatever reason.
[07:20] <abhi_> cwillu: heights of paranoia. i wouldn't b surprised if Mcafee Symantec are churning out viruses themselves
[07:20] <sksol> k guy, reloggin did the trick, thanks :)
[07:20] <sksol> guys8
[07:20] <cwillu> Hammer89, you _might_ want to make a ubuntu hardy (8.04) livecd, boot off it as a test and see if the sound works better with that (it's alpha, but it won't break anything if you don't actually install it)
[07:20] <cwillu> mnemonica, run lspci|grep -i vga
[07:20] <sksol> ok, now the hard question:
[07:20] <cwillu> sksol, np
[07:20] <martzipAN^> hey. i got a tar and i want to burn it to 4.7gb dvd 's (the tar is about 13 gb...) how can i split it?
[07:21] <junteck> hello, anyone can help me with WINE ? thanks
[07:21] <mnemonica> I followed ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft to the letter. Their little test thing in terminal returned a "yes".
[07:21] <cwillu> split
[07:21] <cwillu> !split
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about split - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <sksol> my laptop came with some media keys in front... and initially they controlled rhythmbox when i installed ubuntu. how do i configure them to run my commands?
[07:21] <Hammer89> cwillu: 8.04 is out?
[07:21] <martzipAN^> i do it after i tar ?
[07:21] <drgeb> yahoo fixed my blinking cursor issue! somehow related to menu.lst noidea why
[07:21] <cwillu> Hammer89, no, it's under development
[07:21] <Hammer89> cwillu: ah... okay
[07:21] <cwillu> Hammer89, but there are test versions available
[07:21] <cwillu> do the link I mentioned first
[07:21] <Hammer89> cwillu: okay... how hard is it to upgrade?
[07:22] <cwillu> but if you have no luck, try the hardy cd, and _if_ it solves things, then that opens up some other possibilities
[07:22] <jmdc> I am trying to get around the fact that HP bios updates for my machine aren't available except as a windows executable
[07:22] <cwillu> Hammer89, I'm not going to recommend you _upgrade_ to hardy, at least not for a few months, but if it works there, then you can often use pieces of it to patch up gutsy
[07:23] <mnemonica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51309/   <--- output of lspci|grep -i vga
[07:23] <jmdc> If I were to find a way to get the image out of the executable, are there tools to then use the image to flash the bios?
[07:23] <cwillu> martzipAN^, do you have split installed?  (i.e., "man split " do anything?)
[07:23] <cwillu> thx mnemo
[07:23] <cwillu> thx mnemonica rather
[07:23] <Hammer89> cwillu: understood :) It was more of a seperate question (i.e., when 8.04 is out... how hard is it to update from 7.10?)
[07:23] <jscinoz> what was the command to check what processes are acessing a particular device under /dev?  (in my case i need to see what is accessing /dev/radio0)
[07:24] <cwillu> jscinoz, lsof
[07:24] <mnemonica> cwillu, Welcome.
[07:24] <cwillu> jscinoz, lsof|grep /dev/dafsdfasdfasd
[07:24] <jscinoz> thank you
[07:24] <cwillu> Hammer89, dead simple
[07:24] <sksol> any ideas guys? how to get the input from media keys on my laptop?
[07:24] <fsanlu> Flannel, okay i experimented. it seems like lets say for a USB flash drive, that when i "unmount" it.. it still keeps the light on.. which means its still being used. so when i pull it off.. it wont let me plug it back in unless i reboot.. or i wait to pull it out when i turn of my comptuer (which turns it off)
[07:24] <sksol> they used to control rhythmbox, i know that
[07:24] <cwillu> Hammer89, the updates will one day say "hey, there's a new version, want it?", you click yes, an hour later your done (if all works as it should)
[07:25] <cwillu> mnemonica, how are you starting wow?
[07:25] <Hammer89> cwillu: cool :)
[07:25] <cwillu> mnemonica, output of "glxinfo | grep -i direct"?  (just paste the one line here)
[07:25] <drgeb> during startup all my mesages are ending up on tty8 is there away for all of this to be going to my .var/log/dmesg file other log file ???
[07:26] <mnemonica> cwillu, through wine... Applications > wine > Programs > World of Warcraft > World of Warcraft
[07:26] <Flannel> fsanlu: I've never really done anything with external drives, so I'm going to just bow out of this support request ;)  I'm sure you'll find someone here than can help though.
[07:26] <cwillu> drgeb, they should already be going into dmesg
[07:26] <mnemonica> cwillu, I'll check that, hold on.
[07:26] <fsanlu> hehe no worries :]
[07:26] <ObeyRoy> Okay, I tried making a kubuntu installation CD in Windows, but when i booted up, it got stuck at the loading... Screen. I am currently running ubuntu, but I need to make an installation CD that will work (I only have one blank CD left). Can someone please guide me through this?
[07:26] <mnemonica> cwillu, direct rendering: Yes
[07:26] <cwillu> okay
[07:26] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: Ubuntu runs?
[07:27] <ObeyRoy> Yeah
[07:27] <jmdc> drgeb: I think they usually go to both. is /var/log/dmesg really not getting anything?
[07:27] <cwillu> mnemonica, fair warning, I haven't run wow under intel, but I'd expect it should work
[07:27] <ObeyRoy> I used an old CD
[07:27] <sksol> :(
[07:27] <drgeb> cwillu I tried doing a grep for an exact message displayed in tty8 for all files in /var/log and nothing showed up
[07:27] <ObeyRoy> that i had delivered
[07:27] <cwillu> mnemonica, do you know the path that wow is installed (the actual linux path?)
[07:27] <cwillu> drgeb, make sure you run it as root
[07:27] <drgeb> jmdc dmesg is getting some of it
[07:27] <cwillu> drgeb, sudo lsof|grep /dev/foobar (sorry about that)
[07:27] <drgeb> cwillu I am root
[07:27] <mnemonica> cwillu, I've run WoW fine on this computer under Vista... I just got rid of the damned thing though, and now I'm trying to get it to work in ubuntu. :)
[07:27] <mnemonica> cwillu, Yeah, hold on, I'll get it.
[07:28] <cwillu> drgeb, are you sure a process is using it?
[07:28] <cwillu> drgeb, try lsof|less, and search using /
[07:28] <mnemonica> cwillu, /home/mnemonica/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft   blah blah lots of files
[07:29] <cwillu> mnemonica, okay, this is from memory...
[07:29] <cwillu> mnemonica, wine /home/mnemonica/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft/wow.exe -opengl
[07:29] <XiXaQ> What's the name of that application that lets you run a web app like a normal one?
[07:30] <martzipAN^> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:30] <dn4ia> ok this website says I need mplayer plugin
[07:30] <mnemonica> cwillu, do the backslashes have to be in there between World of Warcraft?
[07:30] <martzipAN^> how do i skip it?
[07:30] <dn4ia> I got the latest mplayer plugin from the apt-get sources
[07:30] <ObeyRoy> Did you get that, Flannel?
[07:30] <dn4ia> but it doesn't work for my browser
[07:30] <dn4ia> what is the deal here?
[07:30] <cwillu> mnemonica, the spaces need to be escaped, so either the whole path needs to be in "fasdasdfa asfasdfa", or each space needs a \
[07:30] <blacklines> hey all, im having trouble with sound under 7.0.4, it was working for 8 months or so and suddenly stopped--ive been through the comprehensive sound troubleshooting guide on the forums, the only thing it accomplished is me losing and being unable to reinstall my driver--anyone wanna lend a hand?
[07:30] <dn4ia> !mplayer
[07:30] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[07:30] <mnemonica> cwillu, interesting... Didn't know that.
[07:30] <jscinoz> Does tvtime support DVB-T?
[07:31] <dn4ia> !codecs
[07:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:31] <drgeb> cwillu i don't see /dev/foobar
[07:31] <cwillu> drgeb, /dev/whatever-device-you're-looking-for?
[07:31] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: If you can install Ubuntu, you can install Kubuntu as a replacement.  Sure it's not ideal, but it does work
[07:31] <cwillu> mnemonica, and the capitalization has to be right ;p
[07:31] <cwillu> mnemonica, there's a trick though
[07:31] <ObeyRoy> What do you mean, as a replacement?
[07:32] <martzipAN^> the tar breaks
[07:32] <martzipAN^> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:32] <martzipAN^> is there a way to ignore errors and keep taring
[07:32] <martzipAN^> ?
[07:33] <mnemonica> cwillu, What trick?   And it didn't crash this time... But the login screen is all screwed up. I can input in the text boxes and click the buttons, but theres no text and the background is black with a couple of yellow lines.
[07:33] <ObeyRoy> I prefer Kubuntu to Ubuntu, I've used both before
[07:33] <ObeyRoy> My problem is that I don't have a Kubuntu disc, and I need to make a working one
[07:34] <blacklines> anyone?
[07:34] <mnemonica> cwillu, And I can see the top panel even though its in fullscreen... weird.
[07:34] <cwillu> mnemo, type wine /home/mnemonica/.wine/drive_c/Pro<hit tab here>/Worl<tab>/Wo<tab>
[07:34] <cwillu> and then add the space -opengl
[07:34] <cwillu> drgeb, did you see anything with /dev in it?
[07:34] <jscinoz> mnemonica are you looking for a way to start wow in wine with just a single command?
[07:35] <mnemonica> jscinoz, No... Just get it to work correctly.
[07:35] <drgeb> yes
[07:35] <mnemonica> cwillu, alright... I'll try that.
[07:35] <jscinoz> mnemonica are you running compiz?
[07:35] <drgeb> cwillu yes
[07:35] <mnemonica> jscinoz, yes.
[07:35] <jscinoz> ok to fix the panel thing..
[07:35] <jscinoz> open ccsm
[07:35] <abhi_> can anyone help me with importing Outlook data into Evolution?
[07:36] <drgeb> cwillu interesting thing is I do not see /dev/tty8
[07:36] <cwillu> um, any ops know what's up with floodbot?
[07:36] <jscinoz> mnemonica, open ccsm, go to workarounds and enable "legacy fullscreen support"
[07:36] <PLSshowyourhelp> :-( I still couldn't fix my problem :could not apply changes fix broken packages first
[07:36] <kr00l> Anyone know a ubuntu compatible PCI Audio Card?
[07:36] <cwillu> drgeb, what's going on?
[07:36] <ObeyRoy> Flannel, you still there?
[07:36] <brucewagne1> Why would anyone want to use Kubuntu over Ubuntu?
[07:36] <jscinoz> because some people prefer KDE to gnome.
[07:36] <brucewagne1> why?
[07:36] <ObeyRoy> it's just a personal preference, I guess
[07:36] <cwillu> brucewagne1, some people have a disorder that makes them want to customize their desktop;  such people are to be pitied, but anyways :p
[07:37] <PLSshowyourhelp> i stile
[07:37] <Shi-Lang> heya cwillu
[07:37] <drgeb> cwillu however when i hit <ctrl> <alt> F8 I do get into the screen which simply has logs in it but not allowing me to log in or anything
[07:37] <brucewagne1> What's the difference(s)?
[07:37] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, hey there
[07:37] <blacklines> ack--anyone wanna take a shot at my alsa prefences?
[07:37] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: You can convert an ubuntu install into a kubuntu install (and subsequenty remove the ubuntu)
[07:37] <blacklines> er alsa issues
[07:37] <Shi-Lang> so far all my installaton sttempts have failed so ill try the disabling dma or whatitscalled route
[07:37] <cwillu> brucewagne1, more configurable, with the tradeoff of less things working as simply as they could
[07:37] <mnemonica> cwillu, how would I exit WoW from the command line?
[07:37] <jscinoz> brucewagne1, KDE is more complex, but allows a higher degree of customisation
[07:37] <ObeyRoy> Flannel, how do I do that?
[07:37] <cwillu> mnemonica, ctrl+c
[07:37] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: Once you've got Ubuntu installed, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[07:38] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: To remove ubuntu later, follow this: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:38] <cwillu> drgeb, and?
[07:38] <mnemonica> cwillu, Well... I can't get back into the WoW screen... It's not on any of my bottom panels, but the music is still playing. *sigh*
[07:38] <cwillu> mnemonica, alt+tab isn't doing anything?
[07:38] <brucewagne1> Thanks Guys!
[07:38] <knoppix> hello?
[07:38] <ObeyRoy> Flannel, where can I find that?
[07:38] <drgeb> cwillu so why are these messages on tty8 not in any logs files located in /var/log particularly dmesg.log
[07:38] <cwillu> mnemonica, ctrl+alt+f1 will escape to a terminal (ctrl+alt+f7 to get back), you can killall wine to kill it
[07:39] <cwillu> drgeb, weird
[07:39] <Shi-Lang> k cwillu, what command do I add to disable the dma?
[07:39] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: in the repositories.  Uh, open up synaptic package manager, click in the package window (where it lists the names, and start typing "kubuntu" by around the b, you'll be there
[07:39] <cwillu> drgeb, tty's are numbered from 0, that isn't tripping you is it?
[07:39] <knoppix> is there anybody used ubuntu 7.10?
[07:39] <mnemonica> cwillu, just issue "killall wine" outside of x?
[07:40] <Johnson_> hey when i close eclipse for some reason it removes the jre system library from the project. which screws up everything
[07:40] <CrAzY-181> hi guys my mouse doesnt seem to want to scroll down any idea what is causing this i can scroll up and it was working 2 mins ago
[07:40] <cwillu> mnemonica, should do the trick
[07:40] <mnemonica> cwillu, Alright... attempting.
[07:40] <CrAzY-181> only thing i can think of is that i just set up the cube desktop thing
[07:40] <ObeyRoy> Flannel:After I do all this, it will be as if I installed Kubuntu?
[07:40] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, when it failed at <...installing packages...> did it say what package failed?
[07:40] <Shi-Lang> k cwillu? what command do I add to disable the dma?
[07:40] <drgeb> cwillu when my system starts up all log messages during startup of the machine and processes send to tty8 are not logged so its hard for me to debug right now issues that I am observing
[07:40] <Shi-Lang> it failed at selecting and installing software
[07:40] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: yeah
[07:41] <Shi-Lang> >cwillu: it failed at selecting and installing software
[07:41] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, did it say which package?
[07:41] <Shi-Lang> no
[07:41] <ObeyRoy> Flannel: Where do I find the synaptic Packet manager?
[07:41] <Shi-Lang> not that I know of
[07:41] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: you should log into kubuntu (logout of ubuntu, go to "sessions" at the login screen, choose KDE) before removing ubuntu though
[07:41] <ObeyRoy> I haven't used Linux since hoary Hedhehog
[07:41] <knoppix> there is no splash screen or any signal when i boot into ubuntu 7.10
[07:41] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[07:41] <pistorexDD> i have semprom 2400+ and 512ram coloco linux ou nao?
[07:41] <pistorexDD> i have semprom 2400+ and 512ram coloco linux ou nao?
[07:41] <mnemonica> cwillu, tried it in terminal and ctrlaltf1area and got same result: wine: no process killed
[07:41] <brucewagne1> I think I've screwed up my Flash Player video (i.e. YouTube) by installing some things using Automatix..... and often my Divx codec seems to stop working (re-starting Ubuntu seems to fix it)...  Should I just reinstall Ubuntu, and then not install anything except from Add/Remove...and Synaptic..... to get a clean install....?  I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 AMD64, by the way.
[07:41] <pistorexDD> i have semprom 2400+ and 512ram coloco linux ou nao? ...
[07:42] <pistorexDD> i have semprom 2400+ and 512ram coloco linux ou nao? ................
[07:42] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, okay, boot the cd, add the following to the boot line:  nosplash nodma noapic nolapic acpi=off
[07:42] <Shi-Lang> exactly that after the '--'?
[07:42] <Flannel> brucewagne1: Reinstall is the best way to get rid of the a- word, yes.
[07:42] <brucewagne1> Flannel, thanks!
[07:42] <ObeyRoy> Thanks, Flannel, I appreciate your help
[07:43] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, before, sorry (not dead sure it matters, but that's where I always put it)
[07:43] <cwillu> brucewagne1, are you attached to running the 64bit version?
[07:43] <mnemonica> jscinoz, By the way, Legacy support or whatever in ccsm was already enabled... What does that mean?
[07:43] <brucewagne1> Mr Flannel sure is a nice guy.   :)
[07:43] <widarto> halo
[07:43] <sksol> how do i change the font color of my system clock on the top panel?
[07:43] <cwillu> brucewagne1, you might find your life simpler if you just run the 32bit version
[07:43] <brucewagne1> cwillu, I am running on an AMD64 processor....  Do I have a choice?
[07:43] <widarto> how to setup ubuntu 7.10 in external hard disk , my internal hdd using windows vista
[07:44] <cwillu> brucewagne1, yep, you can run either;  the 32bit will have better binary support though
[07:44] <PLSshowyourhelp> :-D
[07:44] <mnemonica> cwillu, tried it in terminal and ctrlaltf1area and got same result: wine: no process killed
[07:44] <cwillu> brucewagne1, it just won't take full advantage of the cpu (which probably won't be noticable for many uses, outside of video editing, and similarily demanding tasks)
[07:44] <ObeyRoy> Oh, by the way, my internet is running a bit slow... I remember having this problem before, and it had to do with using IPv6 instead of IPv4. Does anyone know any more about this?
[07:45] <noodles12> i got my gf to use linux! (yay!) but she goes to this one website http://www.soompi.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=583&st=2600&start=2600 and it doesn't show pictures, only the link to the picture and i have no idea why it does that.. anyone?
[07:45] <cwillu> mnemonica, one sec, let me start it up and double check the process
[07:45] <brucewagne1> cwillu, NO WAY!   you're kidding me!   I thought that since I was running on an AMD64-bit processor, that everything had to be 64-bit!
[07:45] <mnemonica> cwillu, alright, thanks.
[07:45] <sksol> anynone? i need to change my font color for my clock in the panel... it is transparent, and both the background and the font are black... cant see the time
[07:45] <sksol> :(
[07:45] <Shi-Lang> cwillu: so what does this command do exactly and how do i know if it works?
[07:46] <Aeleon> wow, it's 7:45 am and you guys are still kickin'!
[07:46] <ObeyRoy> Aeleon: it's 11:46 here
[07:46] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, it turns off a whole whack of things that cause issues on various pieces of hardware;  this is the shotgun/nuke-the-site-from-orbit approach :p
[07:46] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, and it works if it installs :p
[07:46] <Aeleon> where are you, in cali
[07:46] <mnemonica> cwillu, Hey, I closed the terminal that I used to issue the command to start WoW the first time you asked me to. And the music stopped... But now I can't move my windows and I have no close/max/min/restore buttons.
[07:46] <Aeleon> ?
[07:46] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, nothing there creates any lasting settings
[07:47] <sksol> guys, if i cant see the time... i will be constantly missing my bedtime! please, need some help
[07:47] <cwillu> mnemonica, from the ctrl+alt+f1, run DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace
[07:47] <Shi-Lang> rofl
[07:47] <cwillu> mnemonica, may not fix the mouse, but it should bring back window decorations at least
[07:47] <ObeyRoy> Sksol: you want to change the font or the color?
[07:48] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, you can add irqpoll to that as well, but it may just slow things down quite a bit
[07:48] <sksol> color of the font
[07:48] <brucewagne1> cwillu, I can just install the 32 bit version of Ubuntu then... and everything will work better...?     Then, you mentioned video editing...   Ouch.   I am planning to do video editing.... using Kino or something...   Does that mean I should stick with the 64bit version?
[07:48] <cwillu> brucewagne1, well, easier, not necessarily 'better'
[07:48] <cwillu> brucewagne1, it'll still work, it just can't take advantage of 64bit code for the most part (all the libraries would be 32bit)
[07:49] <ObeyRoy> sksol, I'm new too, i'm trying to find a way to change it
[07:49] <cwillu> brucewagne1, I think you can generally run 32bit binaries even under 64bit ubuntu, but it does add some complexities, and it _will_ uncover bugs
[07:49] <sksol> heh, thanks...
[07:49] <cwillu> brucewagne1, if the livecd boots, then it'll work fine
[07:49] <ObeyRoy> Are you using KDE, Sksol?
[07:49] <sksol> nope
[07:49] <sksol> gnome
[07:50] <ObeyRoy> that's odd...
[07:50] <mnemonica> cwillu, brought everything back, even mouse, but the ctrlaltf1thing stalled... No more prompt.    I'm so glad I discovered this IRC thing.   Thanks!
[07:50] <drgeb> cwillu do u have any messages after booting in /dev/tty8 ?
[07:50] <jmdc> is it a really really bad idea to try to flash my bios using wine?
[07:50] <cwillu> one sec
[07:50] <cwillu> drgeb, a couple 'starting foo [ ok ]' lines
[07:50] <Flannel> jmdc: Your BIOS flash thing runs on a boot disk, usually.
[07:50] <Aeleon> jmdc, some hours ago someone came in and decided to do that very thing.
[07:50] <Shi-Lang> cwillu: occasionally a sim booting the live cd it complains about a "applet.py" not working
[07:50] <cwillu> drgeb, you can't scroll up in a vt after you've switched away though
[07:51] <Aeleon> because he had an exe.
[07:51] <Aeleon> someone mentioned freedos to him, I dunno if that helps because I don't know what I'm talking about. :x
[07:51] <drgeb> cwillu so these message in /dev/tty8 do u see a copy of them in any log files in /var/log ?
[07:51] <mnemonica> cwillu, frickin thing restarted x...
[07:51] <cwillu> drgeb, let me check
[07:51] <jmdc> Aeleon: did they actually use wine then?
[07:51] <mnemonica> cwillu, I don't know why...
[07:52] <ObeyRoy> Flannel, you still here?
[07:52] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: depends ;)
[07:52] <cwillu> jmdc, well, grep didn't find anything
[07:52] <Shi-Lang> cwillu: occasionally as im booting the live cd it complains about a "applet.py" not working
[07:53] <Aeleon> jmdc, they did. but i didn't stick around to see their success.
[07:53] <Aeleon> i don't know if they did, either, i feel like they just went off and did it.
[07:53] <mnemonica> cwillu, everything seems to be fine though... So, what's next? Last thing was the non-tab commandline thing. Since X restarted, I don't have our previous conversation. Could you repeat the second filepath recommendation for me, please?
[07:53] <cwillu> drgeb, no, I don't see them anywhere
[07:53] <jmdc> Aeleon: well, nothing to lose but my computer, right?
[07:53] <cwillu> mnemonica, basically, wine /path/to/WoW.exe -opengl
[07:54] <drgeb> cwillu cause this is what I would like to have, seems to me right now all my init.d startup scripts are logging to /dev/tty8   and no where else
[07:54] <brenix> can anyone help me with a noob question?
[07:54] <Aeleon> jmdc, backitup, doll. nothing a simple reinstall won't cure.
[07:54] <Masqy> I have Logitech Pro 5000 Webcam, I installed the drivers from berlios, but for some reason, they seem to work only in Skype. Could you please recommend a video capture program? Is this a known issue with this camera?
[07:54] <drgeb> cwillu so all erros and stuff is just scrolling by
[07:54] <Aeleon> !ask | brenix
[07:54] <ubotu> brenix: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:54] <Aeleon> :D I'm learniiing!
[07:54] <cwillu> drgeb, notably, a bunch of stuff will get logged to tty1, in addition to what goes to tty8
[07:54] <mnemonica> cwillu, with \<tab> every time I have a space in there?
[07:54] <cwillu> drgeb, starting with nosplash might help
[07:54] <XiXaQ> can firefox resume a download that's terminated because of a chrash?
[07:54] <cwillu> mnemonica, or anytime you get lazy :p
[07:55] <mnemonica> cwillu, heh. alright.
[07:55] <cwillu> XiXaQ, I know the 3.0 beta's can, I'm not sure if the earlier ones do
[07:55] <Aeleon> worth a try, XiXaQ.
[07:55] <Aeleon> but i'd flashget it.
[07:55] <XiXaQ> Aeleon, I don't know how.
[07:55] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, any luck booting with those args?
[07:55] <lazy247x> newbee on Linux -- how do i create a shortcut for programs -- like a (calc) with hotkeys??
[07:55] <Shi-Lang> cwillu: occasionally as im booting the live cd it complains about a "applet.py" not working
[07:55] <Aeleon> if it can, it'd be available from the download window.
[07:55] <brenix> just recently installed dwm and would like to know what to add and where to add certain apps to the session, such as the app to automatically configure network cards
[07:55] <Aeleon> where the 'open' link is, a 'resume' button would be.
[07:55] <jmdc> Aeleon: I'm not so sure - I chatted with hp support and they said that the bios updater only works on windows
[07:55] <XiXaQ> I've been downloading open-xchange, which is 700MB, but firefox chrashes so often, it's almost impossible to get it down.
[07:55] <drgeb> cwilllu hpw do u turn off splash ?
[07:55] <Shi-Lang> sorry if you alrdy anwered but i couldnt find the reply
[07:55] <cwillu> lazy247x, just drag from the menu, or from the nautilus window (holding shift gives a menu of options when you let go)
[07:56] <jscinoz> mnemonica, its supposed ot make the panels not show oever the game >_< worked for me
[07:56] <lazy247x> ok
[07:56] <lazy247x> let me try it
[07:56] <cwillu> drgeb, edit the boot line in grub, removing 'splash'
[07:56] <cwillu> bah
[07:56] <Aeleon> but wine lets you use windows executables on linux.
[07:56] <cwillu> drgeb, and 'quiet'
[07:56] <Aeleon> no?
[07:56] <Aeleon> so the logic is there, jmdc.
[07:57] <cwillu> Aeleon, I'd have to have drunk quite a bit to run a hardware level utility under wine without somebody having told me they tried it and it worked :p
[07:57] <Aeleon> Depends on how long you've had the pc, cwillu.
[07:57] <ObeyRoy> So, Flannel (or anyone else) It wants me to end my command with && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, do i forget that, since KDE is already installed?
[07:57] <cwillu> Aeleon, not really
[07:57] <brenix> anyone know what to add and where to add an entry for a certain session (or dwm..)???
[07:57] <brenix> for starup apps
[07:57] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: you don't need to (but it wont do anything bad)
[07:57] <ObeyRoy> okay
[07:57] <lazy247x> is there a way i can use (CTRL + KEY)?? for the calc program
[07:57] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: all itll do is say "you've already got it installed"
[07:58] <cwillu> Aeleon, if I hadn't flashed the bios before under wine, I'd have to be _very_ desperate before I flashed it from wine, or not very attached to the mobo
[07:58] <ObeyRoy> I bet i should log into KDE before doing that?
[07:58] <Aeleon> actually, woah, stop the presses.
[07:58] <drgeb> brb
[07:58] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: You should log out of gnome at any rate.  If you're in a tty, it wont matter
[07:58]  * cwillu stops the presses
[07:58] <Aeleon> a simple google search has told me that people think flashing with wine is a bad idea.
[07:58] <Aeleon> jmdc, you there?
[07:58] <ObeyRoy> Flannel: TTY?
[07:58] <jmdc> Aeleon: what I mean is, if it doesn't work and the bios gets messed up, I don't think I can easily restore the bios, because the only stuff hp gives is updaters that run in windows. I won't be able to get at anything if I brick this box.
[07:58] <Aeleon> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=flashing+bios+with+wine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[07:59] <cwillu> jmdc, don't flash from wine, k?
[07:59] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: ctrl-alt-f1 through ctrl-alt-f6 (ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to gUI)
[07:59] <jmdc> cwillu, aeleon: thanks. I needed an intervention.
[07:59] <Shi-Lang> cwillu: I got the error again, [Errno 5] Input/Output error at 34% omsta;;omg system/copying files
[07:59] <Shi-Lang> im going to sleep now
[07:59] <cwillu> installing?
[07:59] <jmdc> I will go sit in my corner and think about what I have done.
[07:59] <cwillu> :p
[07:59] <ObeyRoy> wow
[07:59] <cwillu> jmdc one sec
[07:59] <Shi-Lang> yes when installing
[07:59] <ObeyRoy> that scared me
[07:59] <Aeleon> jmdc, damn, i just felt a wave of guilt at the thought of encouraging you to flash your bios and having you brick your box
[07:59] <Aeleon> .
[07:59] <mnemonica> cwillu, it gave me the same result as last time. I tried to take a screenshot (pressed the printscreen button) and X crashed and restarted.
[08:00] <marvxxx> is there a nice easy way to authenticate ubuntu against openldap?
[08:00] <brucewagne1> thanks!  you guys are the best!  esp cwillu and flannel...  i'm going to bed now.   nite nite
[08:00] <cwillu> gn brucewagne1
[08:00] <ObeyRoy> alright, I'll be back
[08:00] <Shi-Lang> sleep time be back later
[08:00] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, I'm pretty much stumped
[08:00] <jmdc> Aeleon: don't worry, what this really is about is me trying to "beat" hp and being pissed off that they only support microsoft
[08:00] <Aeleon> jmdc - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+to+flash+bios+with+linux read some of these, see if they're relevant.
[08:00] <cwillu> Shi-Lang, my next thing would be to install to a drive on a different machine, and then put that drive in the pIII, but I'm not sure if you want to do that
[08:00] <Shapeshifter__> I instaled Wicd as my network manager and the available networks are displayed (a couple of times, there are like 12 netowrks, 4x3 of them with the same name, there are ohnly 3 networks). But I can't connect, the status bar blinks for a second and then nothing happens. I couldn't find a solution on the net. any ideas?
[08:00] <mnemonica> cwillu, this WoW install is fresh from the box Burning Crusade (no patches) does that make a difference?
[08:01] <cwillu> mnemonica, I'm running burning crusade, should work
[08:01] <mnemonica> cwillu, Mmmk.... But it isn't lol... Any other ideas?
[08:01] <cwillu> mnemonica, did you get the message about the fullscreen thingy?
[08:01] <Aeleon> jmdc, I am afraid I am very un-knowledgable of these things, so I don't want to tell you something wrong.
[08:01] <Onyx> !find qt-mt
[08:01] <cwillu> jmdc, do you have another machine available?
[08:01] <ubotu> Package/file qt-mt does not exist in gutsy
[08:01] <mnemonica> cwillu, fullscreen thingy...?
[08:01] <sasha_> hello, I got a problem whit my laserjet 6L printer. In dmesg I got this: [84307.880798] audit(1199865622.590:11):  type=1502 operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="rw" denied_mask="rw" name="/dev/tty" pid=13017 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"
[08:02] <cwillu> jmdc, I'd almost suggest finding a small computer shop that would be willing to boot off a windows pe cd (xp livecd basically), or a windows disk temporarily, and install the update from there
[08:02] <cwillu> jmdc, how desperate are you to apply the bios update?
[08:02] <cwillu> mnemonica, one sec, I'll check the scrollback
[08:03] <vinicius> can anyone help me doing this: http://paste.debian.net/46472 ???
[08:03] <cwillu> jscinoz, what was the gconf-editor thingy again for mnemonica ?
[08:04] <ObeyRoy> huh, terminal won't let me copy that text into it
[08:04] <cwillu> vinicius, sorry, the extent of my 64bit knowledge is to suggest the 32bit version of ubuntu :p
[08:04] <brenix> anyone know how to add the gnome-settings-daemon, etc. to a dwm session???
[08:04] <jmdc> cwillu: I don't think I can install from a windows disk, since hp uses winflash which is some sort of actual windows gui program. I'm not horribly desperate
[08:05] <ObeyRoy> Is it because it's too long?
[08:05]  * cwillu is losing track of his conversations, ping him if he's been ignoring you for a while
[08:05] <jscinoz> cwillu, i didnt mention any thing about gconf-editor, i was talking about a setting in ccsm
[08:05] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: Shouldn't be.  More likely a paste buffer issue.  Try copying a piece of the command and see
[08:05] <cwillu> jmdc, you could flash it from a drive with windows already installed, or you could flash it from a windows pre-execution environment cd (which is just xp with process limits on a cd)
[08:06] <mnemonica> cwillu, I do remember that... The setting that jscinoz mentioned was already turned on.
[08:06] <ObeyRoy> Flannel: I pasted it to the notepad, and it worked
[08:06] <cwillu> jscinoz, okay, I think it has the same setting
[08:06] <mnemonica> jscinoz, Thanks though. ^_^
[08:06] <cwillu> mnemo, did you check that it was on?
[08:06] <jscinoz> mnemonica you could always try turning it off and seeign what happens :P
[08:06] <cwillu> indeed
[08:06] <mnemonica> jscinoz, turning compiz off?
[08:06] <jscinoz> Does tvtime support DVB-T and if so, is there somewhere i can fidn a guide on how to set it up
[08:06] <dbugger> Hello! Greeting! Im new on the ubuntu community
[08:06] <jscinoz> mnemonica, no the legacy fullscreen option
[08:06] <cwillu> mnemonica, well, that would probably work too
[08:07] <mnemonica> jscinoz, I'll attempt both...
[08:07] <mnemonica> cwillu, should I continue the command line thing? Or can I attempt to launch it conventionally?
[08:08] <CrAzY-181> hi guys i cant seem to scroll down with my mouse (up works) i think it may have been something i did wrong while setting up the 3d cube effect
[08:08] <cwillu> mnemonica, I'd try turning off compiz, and then starting it conventionally, and if it doesn't work, trying the -opengl setting, still with compiz off
[08:08] <insigne> OI
[08:08] <mnemonica> cwillu, will do
[08:08] <vinicius> cwillu, what about the speed of the systems?
[08:09] <ObeyRoy> sorry, that was me being stupid, flannel
[08:09] <Aeleon> Hey guys:
[08:09] <cwillu> vinicius, won't have 64bit instructions, but it'll still run at the same clock speed;  for most uses you won't notice a difference, for cpu intensive stuff, you might
[08:09] <jmdc> cwillu: thanks again. I'll probably just end up temporarily installing windows.
[08:09] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: Happens to all of us ;)
[08:09] <Aeleon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD I'm trying to establish a VPN between my ubuntu box at home and a Vista Laptop herein the UK using that FAQ, but when I go to connect, Vista tells me it isn't responding.
[08:09] <mnemonica> cwillu, still crashes when accessed conventionally... Even with desktop effects turned completely off.
[08:09] <cwillu> jmdc, fair warning that windows installs tend to mess up grub;  it's recoverable with the install cd, but it's annoying
[08:09] <vinicius> cwillu, thats the problem.. sometimes I really use hard the system
[08:09] <cwillu> mnemonica, k, add the -opengl switch
[08:10] <cwillu> vinicius, sorry, I'm not a 64bit user;  I just know that 32bit works, minus 64bit instructions
[08:11] <ObeyRoy> Okay, i pasted it into the shell, but now i can't enter my password
[08:11] <Aeleon> ..Anybody?
[08:11] <vasilisa> How come my video quality isnt very good? It was before ii reinstalled ubuntu ... so i dunno what i did last time to make it look nice o.O
[08:11] <ObeyRoy> it asks for the password, but when i type anything in, it doesn't register
[08:11] <cwillu> ObeyRoy, can't enter it, or it just doesn't echo what you type?  (password prompt won't show anything at all as you type)
[08:11] <jmdc> cwillu: yeah, thanks again
[08:11] <vinicius> cwillu, thats true... thanks!
[08:11] <jmdc> Aeleon: what what was your question?
[08:11] <CrAzY-181> anyone help me to get this mouse working properly again?
[08:11] <Flannel> ObeyRoy: should be your user password.  and no, it wont display anything.
[08:11] <Aeleon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD I'm trying to establish a VPN between my ubuntu box at home and a Vista Laptop herein the UK using that FAQ, but when I go to connect, Vista tells me it isn't responding. Where do I begin?
[08:11] <cwillu> Aeleon, what type of vpn?
[08:12] <ObeyRoy> wow, I was putting in the wrong password
[08:12] <ObeyRoy> sorry again
[08:12] <cwillu> np
[08:12] <Aeleon> Uh, there are types? I'm using pptpd on my server.
[08:12] <jxxt> Is it safe to shrink my ubuntu partition then expand the ntfs by the amount I shrunk ubuntu???? gparted
[08:12] <vasilisa> jxxt: you cant expan a partition to the left
[08:12] <cwillu> Aeleon, the built-in stuff with windows isn't quite standard conforming; it's possible to make it work, but not worth the time unless you have no choice in vpn packages
[08:13] <doctor_thunder> home is always kept on a sep. partition on linux by default?
[08:13] <Aeleon> Well, do you have any suggestions on something downloadable? OR is it more, uhm, is it deeper than that?
[08:13] <cwillu> Aeleon, if you're using a third party package, there's more hope (assuming they support linux);  my personal preference is openvpn, although I don't know if there's a tap driver for vista yet
[08:13] <Flannel> doctor_thunder: not by default, although some think it ought to be.  Always a good practice though
[08:13] <jxxt> vasilisa, can I change the position of the partion??
[08:13] <cwillu> Aeleon, what are you trying to do?
[08:13] <Aeleon> I'll look it up, thanks cwillu.
[08:13] <vasilisa> jxxt: If you shrink a partition, you cant really do anything with the freed space other than turn it to a new partition....
[08:13] <Aeleon> I'm actually trying to bypass my uni's firewall.
[08:13] <cwillu> Aeleon, plain old ssh might get most of the way
[08:13] <vasilisa> jxxt: No :/ its pretty annoying...
[08:14] <mnemonica> cwillu, Ok... This is new ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51312/
[08:14] <cwillu> Aeleon, ssh has a built in socks proxy, which will probably do what you want without too many headaches
[08:14] <Aeleon> I can SSH successfully to my server, but I don't quite .. know what to do with it. There are 80 million ports I need to open if I want to use my MMOs & BT.
[08:14] <jxxt> vasilisa, I messed up a dual boot now windows does not have enough room what to do??
[08:15] <ObeyRoy> So, does Anyone know of public DNS servers I can use to fix my IPv6 Issue?
[08:15] <vasilisa> jxxt: You dont have enough room? how's your drive divvied up exactly?
[08:15] <Aeleon> cwillu, I used to think that if I could just SSH into my box, I could sort of, usurp my internet connection at home and do what i want with it at school. But I logged into my box from putty and was like "Now what?".
[08:15] <cwillu> Aeleon, ssh -D 5000 hostname.com will open a socks proxy on port 5000;  firefox can then use that to browse the web via the proxy (you need to set an about:config option as well if you want dns queries to go through the proxy (i.e., if the university blocks those as well))
[08:15] <cwillu> Aeleon, socks is your friend :p
[08:16] <mnemonica> cwillu, Ok... This is new ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51312/      And another oddity I'd like to mention is that my screenresolution keeps changing to a lower resolution and I have to manually change it back when WoW crashes... Normal?
[08:16] <jxxt> 26gig for win the balance of a 60gig for linux and swap
[08:16] <Aeleon> cwillu, but if I'm trying to run bt & secondlife, for instance? second life needs like a billion ports, both tcp & udp.
[08:16] <cwillu> Aeleon, openvpn would be my strongest recommendation if you needed a full vpn
[08:16] <cwillu> Aeleon, use the bridging configuration
[08:16] <vasilisa> jxxt: 26 gigs isnt enough? Do you need to remove something from it?
[08:16] <cwillu> Aeleon, it's a bit of setup, but nothing compared to what's required to set up a linux->windows pptp vpn
[08:17] <Aeleon> cwillu - Help everybody else, I can wait. :D
[08:17] <cwillu> Aeleon, it's way more straightforward than it seems :p
[08:17] <cwillu> mnemonica, hmm
[08:17] <Aeleon> cwillu: I've got an exam today, so if you're not available to baby-step me through this set-up, I can wait.
[08:17] <ObeyRoy> So, does anyone know how to fix the slow speeds caused by IPv6?
[08:17] <cwillu> mnemonica, I might send you my config file
[08:17] <jxxt> vasilisa, My daughters machine she has a huge amount of data and games
[08:17] <SeveredCross> Turn it off?
[08:17] <cwillu> mnemonica, I usually run wow in a window, which has historically saved me some grief
[08:18] <ObeyRoy> Well, I can always turn it off in mozilla, but the problem will still be there with my other apps
[08:18] <jxxt> vasilisa, Maybe I need to reinstall and but the ubuntu on correctly this time
[08:18] <vasilisa> jxxt: Well in this case id say you just need to clear some room on it so it'll boot. You can access windows partitions in linux.
[08:18] <mnemonica> cwillu, Mmmk. I'm assuming you'd send it to me so I could replace the one that I have? And alright, if you think it'll work.
[08:18] <vasilisa> jxxt: Well you could reinstall ubuntu on a partition further to the right and then expand the windows one, yes
[08:19] <cwillu> mnemonica, find your WTF/Config.wtf file
[08:19] <cwillu> open it in gedit
[08:19] <cwillu> and add these lines:
[08:19] <cwillu> um
[08:19] <jxxt> vasilisa, OK that sounds like a plan
[08:19] <cwillu> one sec, I'll pastebin it :op
[08:19] <vasilisa> jxxt: But it's probably going to be just as easy to temporarily clean it up until you can add some space...
[08:19] <mnemonica> cwillu, where would that be?
[08:19] <vasilisa> jxxt: Just remember, partitions can only grow to the right, not left.
[08:20] <jxxt> vasilisa, I have a 30gig usb drive I can throw some stuff on
[08:20] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ LANG=C sudo mv gnome-power-manager_2.20.0 /usr/src/; mv: cannot stat `gnome-power-manager_2.20.0': No such file or directory." What went wrong?
[08:20] <cwillu> mnemonica, I added it to your last pastebin (make sure you delete those entries if they already exist before you add these ones)
[08:20] <mnemonica> cwillu, there isn't anything in the WTF folder except RunOnce.wtf
[08:20] <jxxt> vasilisa, I will remember
[08:20] <cwillu> mnemo, World of Warcraft/WTF/Config.wtf
[08:20] <vasilisa> jxxt: okie dokie
[08:20] <cwillu> mnemonica, rather ^^^^
[08:20] <cwillu> ?
[08:20] <cwillu> weird
[08:20] <cwillu> okay
[08:20] <cwillu> one sec
[08:21] <jxxt> vasilisa, TY :-))
[08:21] <vasilisa> jxxt: No prob, i know all this very well :P I cant tell you how long it took me to figure out fricking partitions
[08:21] <vasilisa> jxxt: xD
[08:21] <cwillu> mnemonica, _create_ Config.wtf in that folder
[08:21] <mavi-> mnemonica: run it with "wine WoW.exe -opengl" and it runs so much better
[08:21] <alex_> i installed xubuntu-desktop, and when i logged back into gnome, my title bar on all my windows is gone, can anyone help?
[08:21] <mavi-> it wont crash
[08:22] <mavi-> mnemonica: the directX backend is used default, and got worse support in wine, so use the opengl one
[08:22] <drgeb> cwillu nope did not work, strange how not all log messages to tty's are logged
[08:22] <ObeyRoy> Hrm, how can i adjust my screen resolution?
[08:22] <cwillu> mnemonica, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51313/
[08:22] <mnemonica> cwillu, so go into WTF and create Config.wtf and paste your info in it?
[08:22] <cwillu> mnemonica, make that the content of it
[08:22] <cwillu> yes
[08:22] <mnemonica> mavi-, still doesn't work, buddy... We've been trouble shooting for a while... lol
[08:23] <mavi-> mnemonica: the reslution thing is because wow crashes, it writes its settings on exit.
[08:23] <mavi-> mnemonica: i had the same problem before
[08:23] <vasilisa> Okay can someone help me out here? Why are my videos not very good quality?
[08:23] <cwillu> mavi-, we're experiencing a mesa error in addition to the usual -opengl solvable issues
[08:23] <mavi-> oh
[08:23] <Shai_A> hi all
[08:24] <mavi-> hes using mesa openGL?
[08:24] <mnemonica> cwillu, how do I create the config.wtf thing?
[08:24] <cwillu> so are you unless you're running nvidia proprietary
[08:24] <mavi-> i am
[08:24] <mavi-> running nvidia that is
[08:24] <cwillu> mavi-, nvidia is 'special'
[08:24] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: what player do u use?
[08:25] <vasilisa> My viideos used to look so nice , and now they're all choppy and have lines through them.......
[08:25] <cwillu> mavi-, but mesa is the opengl bindings for most other drivers
[08:25] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: Same thing whatever i use
[08:25] <cwillu> mnemonica, cd to the config directory
[08:25] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: Kaffeine and vlc mainly
[08:25] <cwillu> mnemonica, and then type gedit Config.wtf (use the capitalization)
[08:25] <Johnny_5> hmm...
[08:25] <mnemonica> cwillu, /home/mnemonica/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/WTF   <--- Does that look like the right area?
[08:26] <Shai_A> something happened to me and I reported it as a bug, but maybe you can help me. When I enter a new keyboard shortcut in the deskbar applet options, it updates the new shortcut but keeps the old one active, without any possibility of removing it. Right now I have 4 keyboard shortcuts to focus on the deskbar search... anyone know how to solve this?
[08:26] <cwillu> mnemonica, I'm getting google hits on that error you pasted me
[08:26] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: try totem
[08:26] <cwillu> mnemonica, yep
[08:26] <mnemonica> cwillu, cool.
[08:26] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: >.< Id like to know why vlc player used to look good but doesnt now.
[08:26] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: Ever since i reinstalled my OS
[08:27] <cwillu> mnemonica, http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=ntq&q=ubuntu+Exceeded+max+nr+indirect+texture+lookups&btnG=Search&meta=
[08:27] <cwillu> lol
[08:27] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: could be a bad install...
[08:27] <cwillu> mnemonica, Wow/Wine/Cursed Intel :p
[08:27] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: i think im missing packages
[08:27] <mnemonica> cwillu, Which means...?
[08:27] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: did u install a 3-d driver?
[08:28] <cwillu> mnemonica, somebody else went through pain and suffering :p
[08:28] <cwillu> mnemonica, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-638885.html
[08:28] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: yeah the restricted drivers for ATI
[08:28] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: i had a similar prob and that turned out to be the prob
[08:28] <Shai_A> I'll summarize my problem again for those that just entered the room: deskbar applet doesn't "forget" old keyboard shortcuts when entering new ones.
[08:28] <Masqy> I have Logitech Pro 5000 Webcam, I installed the drivers from berlios, but for some reason, they seem to work only in Skype. Could you please recommend a video capture program? Is this a known issue with this camera?
[08:28] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: uninstall it and try vlc again
[08:29] <Johnson> does anyone know how to change the default workspace in eclipse
[08:29] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: Hmm.... I dont think so.
[08:29] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: did u try it?
[08:29] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: It was doing this since i first started this install of Ubuntu
[08:30] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: 7.10?
[08:30] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: yes, gutsy
[08:30] <mnemonica> cwillu, should I still use your config file?
[08:30] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: did u try it anyway?
[08:30] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: It WAS looking good. I had to reinstall everything. Now it doesnt.
[08:30] <cwillu> mnemonica, I'd say no, but keep a copy of it around
[08:31] <alex_> i installed xubuntu-desktop, and when i logged back into gnome, my title bar on all my windows is gone, can anyone help?
[08:31] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: NM. Its obviously a package of some sort... or something... the graphics look like every other line is missing or something
[08:31] <cwillu> mnemonica, the SET gxApi "opengl" line does the same thing as the -opengl bit, so it'll be useful to remember that
[08:31] <cwillu> mnemonica, d3d is the other option, which is the default if nothing is specified
[08:31] <mnemonica> cwillu, alright... so basically just use the directx install that is already on my system?
[08:31] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: when i had the 3-d driver installed vlc was choppy and totem wouldn't do right and after i iuninstalled the driver everything worx fine
[08:31] <cwillu> mnemonica, honestly, I don't know, but it sounds like he had success with that
[08:32] <mnemonica> cwillu, mmmk.
[08:32] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: If i uninstall the driver, how will i play second life xD
[08:32] <mnemonica> cwillu, wish me luck... lol
[08:32] <cwillu> mnemonica, I've only played wow under wine with nvidia and radeon, not intel :p
[08:32] <cwillu> (i.e., intel is the only 3d accelerated chipset I haven't tried with yet ;p)
[08:33] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: ah...maybe just reinstall for gameplay and uninstall when u want to watch mavies or whatever...that's what i'd recomend....
[08:33] <vasilisa> Johnny_5: ... meh, no way lol. Thanks though...
[08:33] <Johnny_5> vasilisa: np
[08:34] <visi> kl;['p/
[08:36] <mnemonica> cwillu, didn't work...
[08:38] <ObeyRoy> If a program is not responding,  how can i kill it?
[08:39] <sn00zer> ObeyRoy: kill <PID>
[08:39] <brucewagne1> question:  is it true that the software needed for watching commercial DVDs (codecs?) is not included in Ubuntu "out of the box"?
[08:39] <alex_> ObeyRoy: go to System>Administration>System Monitor, then processes tab
[08:40] <ObeyRoy> PID/
[08:40] <ObeyRoy> PID?
[08:40] <Johnny_5> are there any other skins for rhythmbox?
[08:40] <alex_> unless you wanted to do it cli
[08:40] <Guest16155> hello, i have apache server installed on my ubuntu , and i would like to give everyone premission to write files in the apache folder ?
[08:40] <sn00zer> ObeyRoy: process id, you can find it by typing "top" into a terminal,
[08:41] <sn00zer> ObeyRoy: the first process on the list should be the one that stopped responding
[08:41] <sn00zer> ObeyRoy: "q" to quit top
[08:43] <jords> I'm having problems with samba user-level authentication on ubuntu server 7.10. I've added the user i'm trying to login with using sudo smbpasswd -L -a jords and sudo smbpasswd -L -e jords, but I can't log in still. Smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51317/
[08:44] <Ketsuban> Does the firefox-3.0 package overwrite firefox, or can I install both? It'd be quite cool to be able to test Fx3, but I don't want to lose Fx2 in the process.
[08:44] <alex_> i can't see my title bars and my terminal as all white, anyone help?
[08:45] <ObeyRoy> Ketsuban: you shou;d be able to install both
[08:45] <Ketsuban> Alright, thanks.
[08:45] <ObeyRoy> yep
[08:45] <Guest16155> how can i give everyone full access to read & write files in my apache server folder ?
[08:46] <brucewagne1> Why can't these "restricted extras", or whatever they are, to play commercial DVDs... be installed automatically as needed... after prompting the user... just like the Firefox plugins are...?
[08:46] <jords> Guest16155: in terminal it would be chmod -R 777 /var/www
[08:46] <Ketsuban> While I'm at it, does anyone know anything about some slightly annoying behaviour in Firefox? If I access a URL which returns an error (e.g. 403 Forbidden) and then try to modify the URL to access e.g. the parent folder, Firefox acts as if I didn't change the URL.
[08:46] <Wiseguy> hey guys does anyone know if it is possible to stream my xvids to my 360 from ubuntu?
[08:47] <jords> Guest16155: or perhaps put a sudo in front of that ;)
[08:48] <jords> Wiseguy: Possibly with VLC, not sure what sort of streams the 360 can play. Still that's not going to be on demand with the full media libary avalible to view... even between computers the best/only solution for that i've found is samba or nfs
[08:49] <marx2k> quick question... if I want to edit a file association in a file manager, but I need the command (cksfv) to run it with the specified directory it was clicked in, the syntax would be "cksfv -C /dir/name" so, if I was to edit the "Open With.." dialog, would I put "cksfv -C \w"? or what is the directory subsitution? %w?
[08:50] <|ns|nR8> does your 360 have a media player that will stream
[08:50] <|ns|nR8> that is the question
[08:50] <Ketsuban> Also, why is gthumb an essential package (can't be removed without also removing ubuntu-desktop, which is basically required)? It seems a bit pointless to have both that and the regular image viewer.
[08:51] <marx2k> [ns], my XBox with XBMC does :)
[08:51] <|ns|nR8> does it only stream from http ?
[08:51] <jxxt> Kesuban, I think gtumb plays animated gifs and the other doesnt
[08:51] <solaries> hi all
[08:52] <jxxt> gthumb
[08:52] <vlt> Hello. I got a load of "1.00 1.00 1.00" on a nearly idle machine for more than 50 hours now. This is a vmstat line "1  0   7776  79244   7980  82032    0    0     0    12 1793   735  0  0 100  0", this the output of `top`: http://pastebin.ca/844996 -- How can I find out what causes this suspicious exact load of 1.00?
[08:52] <marx2k> [ns], nope... I stream via samba
[08:52] <jxxt> Ketsuban, I think gthumb plays animated gifs and the other doesnt
[08:52] <solaries> kded (kubuntu gutsy gibbon) is running wild (100% for hours). All the web could not help. Any suggestions how to calm kded down?
[08:52] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ LANG=C sudo mv gnome-power-manager_2.20.0 /usr/src/; mv: cannot stat `gnome-power-manager_2.20.0': No such file or directory." What went wrong?
[08:54] <Ketsuban> jxxt: that's a really really bad reason to keep redundant utilities around.
[08:56] <ihancioglu> hello there, I have a problem with my 7.10 , ati drivers and compiz
[08:56] <ihancioglu> who can help me about that subject
[08:56] <ihancioglu> thanks
[08:57] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: what is your problem specifically?
[08:57] <ihancioglu> yes, I have cleanly install 7.10 gutsy
[08:58] <lazy247x> under ubuntu I cant make my supend or hibernate work??
[08:58] <ihancioglu> and I have installed latest ATI drivers because of the not possible to suspend with olders
[08:59] <ihancioglu> suspend hibernation is working now
[08:59] <ihancioglu> also compiz is working
[08:59] <jords> so the problem?
[08:59] <ihancioglu> but If I enable compiz the system is becoming very slow
[08:59] <lazy247x> how do u make suspend and hibernate to work under ubuntu??
[09:00] <ihancioglu> animations is really slow with compiz
[09:01] <jxxt> Ketsuban, It was just a guess on my part :-)
[09:01] <ihancioglu> Is there anybody to help me
[09:01] <pheebz> can i het some help plz
[09:01] <pheebz> *help
[09:02] <lazy247x> ? can someone help me on the supend and hibernate in ubutnu>
[09:02] <pheebz> can i get some help plz
[09:02] <Aeleon> !ask | pheebz
[09:02] <ubotu> pheebz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:02] <fallore> is there a built in hotkey to open a terminal window?
[09:02] <pheebz> ok
[09:02] <pheebz> how do i install screenlets
[09:02] <astro76> fallore: no but you can set one in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[09:02] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: what do you get with $: glxinfo?
[09:03] <Aeleon> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=how+to+install+screenlets
[09:03] <lazy247x>  that took so much time to install screenlets..
[09:03] <jxxt> !python
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <lazy247x> make sure you get the right key file
[09:03] <szero> !ask how do i get dvd playback to work
[09:03] <ihancioglu> name of display: :0.0
[09:03] <ihancioglu> display: :0  screen: 0
[09:03] <ihancioglu> direct rendering: Yes
[09:03] <ihancioglu> server glx vendor string: SGI
[09:03] <ihancioglu> server glx version string: 1.2
[09:03] <ihancioglu> server glx extensions:
[09:03] <ihancioglu>     GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
[09:03] <lazy247x> does anyone know about the supend and hibernate in ubuntu?? why it doesnt work??
[09:03] <ihancioglu>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method,
[09:03] <ihancioglu>     GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
[09:03] <ihancioglu> client glx vendor string: SGI
[09:04] <ihancioglu> client glx version string: 1.4
[09:04] <ihancioglu> client glx extensions:
[09:04] <ihancioglu>     GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
[09:04] <ihancioglu>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
[09:04] <ihancioglu>     GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
[09:04] <ihancioglu>     GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,
[09:04] <ihancioglu>     GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
[09:04] <ihancioglu>     GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
[09:04] <ihancioglu>     GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[09:04] <ihancioglu> GLX version: 1.2
[09:04] <sn00zer> !pastebin | ihancioglu:
[09:04] <ubotu> ihancioglu:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:04] <ihancioglu> GLX extensions:
[09:04] <dahitokiri> shouldn't one of you quiet ban him now?
[09:04] <pheebz> i tried searchin in google couldnt find anything
[09:04] <Euforia> dahitokiri: Who?
[09:05] <xLE> can i use a wildcard to get everything like.. sudo apt-get lb6-*-dev
[09:05] <dahitokiri> Euforia, ihancioglu
[09:05] <lazy247x> help please>
[09:05] <lixoman100> Hello. Can anyone point me to a link to a page (with updated/recent info, if possible) that can help me decide between ext3 or reiserfs on my notebook?
[09:05] <sn00zer> dahitokiri, not everyone knows about pastebin
[09:06] <ihancioglu> snoozer can you please check priv messages
[09:06] <szero> alright, i downloaded and installed vlc and gxine, but i still cant get dvd playback to work, i keep getting the error "No demuxer found - steam format not recognized"
[09:07] <szero> also, i can't get "read and write" priveledges on my cdrom on admin account, is that normal?
[09:08] <jords> szero: so this is when playing dvd's using vlc?
[09:08] <ihancioglu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51320/
[09:08] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: i don't use irc much other than here, where are the priv messages?
[09:08] <ihancioglu> is that ok now?
[09:08] <szero> using gxine, let me get vlc error message
[09:08] <jords> szero: ok
[09:09] <jarek> :)
[09:09] <ihancioglu> I have send a message directly to you
[09:10] <jords> I'm having problems with samba user-level authentication on ubuntu server 7.10. I've added the user i'm trying to login with using sudo smbpasswd -L -a jords and sudo smbpasswd -L -e jords, but I can't log in still. Smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51317/
[09:10] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: i'm pretty sure you need to get that output to change from a SGI server string to ATI something
[09:11] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: client glx vender string needs to change too
[09:11] <ihancioglu> How it will be done
[09:11] <Ketsuban> Okay, so I'm trying to remove redundant packages, and I can't remove either gthumb or eog without also removing ubuntu-desktop (which I'm pretty certain is a Bad Thing).
[09:11] <szero> well, in vlc, when i try to open disc vlc just quits, when i open a directory, it does the same
[09:12] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: i have this bookmarked, so some part of it must have helped me back when i got beryl to work, http://linuxhelp.150m.com/ati/ati.htm
[09:12] <ObeyRoy> Wow, Mozilla and pidgin seem to have disappeared
[09:13] <ObeyRoy> After i restarted in KDE
[09:13] <joot> !nick
[09:13] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[09:13] <shawnmstout> anyone have an idea why copy/paste to the gnome interface isnt working?
[09:14] <ObeyRoy> are you trying to paste into the terminal?
[09:14] <shawnmstout> im using the gui
[09:14] <shawnmstout> file browser
[09:14] <ihancioglu> ok many thanks
[09:14] <ihancioglu> I will try to find out change that values
[09:15] <shawnmstout> anyone?
[09:15] <ihancioglu>  I have installed my drivers from guide , http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[09:15] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: check this one out too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574302&highlight=ATI
[09:16] <fallore> how can i assign myself to a workgroup? i can see the computers on the network but i don't think they can see me. any ideas?
[09:17] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: and this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[09:19] <ihancioglu> If I install my drivers from default ubuntu restrict drivers , suspend and hiber will not work..
[09:19] <szero> can anyone help get to get dvd playback on either gxine or vlc? when i use gxine i get the error "No demuxer found - stream format not recognized" and with VLC it closes soon as i open a Disc or Directory
[09:19] <szero> can anyone help me to get*
[09:19] <rodolfo> !XFree86
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: which driver do you need?
[09:20] <ihancioglu> I think I don't need to install xgl because new drivers are support it self
[09:20] <rodolfo> !info XFree86
[09:20] <ubotu> Package xfree86 does not exist in gutsy
[09:20] <acidfire2008> can someone help me configure pureftd for fxp and change port
[09:20] <ihancioglu> I mean If I install default drivers from ubuntu / suspend is now working
[09:21] <ihancioglu> I mean ATI drivers
[09:21] <ihancioglu> I am using mobility radeon x1400
[09:22] <ObeyRoy> Where can I find applications that aren't on the Main menu?
[09:22] <turbocueca> /usr/bin
[09:24] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: i think you need the xgl if you said you didn't have that, I have two boxes with compiz both have xgl, one has gutsy and the default restricted driver from ati
[09:24] <szero> should i try back tomorrow when it will probably be busier?
[09:25] <ezquerro> hi
[09:25] <ezquerro> how can i restore the key bindings in ubuntu?
[09:25] <sn00zer> szero: do you have the dvd lib 32 or whatever installed?
[09:26] <ezquerro> some programs modify them and now ubuntu throws an error
[09:26] <mnemonica> Hey, can anyone recommend a good "dock" for gnome? "gnome dock" has a website, I know... But it's down or something.
[09:26] <ihancioglu> But as far as I read forums and that guide , there is no need xgl server because ATI drivers are using something like that by default
[09:26] <szero> sn00zer: sec, i can see which i have real fast
[09:27] <mnemonica> anyone?
[09:27] <yango> please help with unmet dependencies when upgrading: http://pastebin.ca/847799
[09:27] <age> hey is sum1 able 2 help me with ubuntu
[09:27] <age> ??
[09:27] <yango> I'm trying to upgrade 6.10 to 7.04
[09:28] <yango> but finally I got to what I posted in the pastebin
[09:28] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: ok, not sure what to tell you, check google and read through as many guides as you can, try things out, if it doesn't work, undo everything
[09:28] <szero> sn00zer: i have libdvdnav4, and libdvdread3
[09:29] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#ATI_users_and_Compiz
[09:29] <age> any1??
[09:30] <ihancioglu> I have read many documents in 2 days :)) latest ATI drivers (7.12) is using Aigxl , and everybody saying they don't need xgl server anymore
[09:30] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: look at the section about whitelisting the drivers, i remember doing that
[09:30] <ihancioglu> really , ok I am trying right now
[09:30] <turbocueca> age, what is it?
[09:30] <age> cood u help me with the ubuntu?
[09:31] <szero> a little more specification might be needed age ;)
[09:31] <ihancioglu> fglrx is already in that list :(
[09:31] <age> i downloaded the desktop off the site but i when i click the open cd icon nothing happens??
[09:32] <age> i tired buring the image 2 a cd but nothing comes up as a iso. file using that infrarecorder
[09:32] <sn00zer> szero: you have the ones i was thinking of
[09:33] <turbocueca> age, what is it?
[09:33] <age> i downloaded the desktop off the site but i when i click the open cd icon nothing happens?
[09:33] <age> i tired buring the image 2 a cd but nothing comes up as a iso. file using that infrarecorder
[09:33] <szero> age: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto. in order to install ubuntu you first need to make a boot disc of the .iso file you downloaded
[09:34] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: is this a notebook or a desktop?
[09:34] <szero> after you have it burned, you need to boot from your cd drive
[09:34] <ihancioglu> it is notebook
[09:34] <age> kk cheers how do i know which is the iso. file
[09:34] <turbocueca> age, what is the problem about burning?
[09:34] <turbocueca> age, I didn't understand correctly
[09:35] <ihancioglu> and is having mobility radeon x1400 with 128 ram
[09:35] <szero> age: try here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
[09:35] <ObeyRoy> What's the command to display the files in a dir?
[09:35] <age> ok thanks m8s ill give that a go
[09:36] <szero> it shouldnt actually come up as an .iso file on the disc.
[09:36] <jords> ObeyRoy: ls will list all files in current directory
[09:36] <moDumass> evenin all any idea how to stop screen from turning off whilst watching a movie
[09:36] <age> ok ill give it a try
[09:36] <moDumass> or disabling screensaver when using full screen apps
[09:36] <ihancioglu> snoozer : desktop effects is working but they are really slowing my desktop
[09:36] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: can you post your xorg.conf file in pastebin?
[09:36] <jonathan_> hello, anybody can help me with the wireless driver?
[09:36] <ihancioglu> ok
[09:37] <ihancioglu> one moment
[09:37] <jonathan_> I got a problem at ubuntu 7.10 with my wireless card D-LINK DWL-G122
[09:37] <szero> moDumass: have you tried system > preferences > power management?
[09:37] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: ok, when you say slowing it down, does it max out the cpu?
[09:38] <moDumass> szero yeh but that doesnt have any "stop screensaver when using full screen app" settings
[09:38] <ihancioglu> yes it is also eating a lot of CPU
[09:38] <ObeyRoy> I am just trying to look at the small games that came with the installation of ubuntu
[09:38] <ObeyRoy> But they are not on the menu
[09:38] <szero> sn00zer: i found a xinelib i needed, but i think i still need the libdvdcss file, now i get the error "media stream scrambled/encrypted"
[09:38] <jonathan_> I can't connected to the access point and internet by using D-LINK DWL-G122
[09:39] <sn00zer> szero, huh... never seen that error, but i don't think i have any encrypted dvd's
[09:39] <ihancioglu> I just installed suse a week ago, everything was perfect
[09:39] <szero> did you try "put display to sleep when inactive for:" area?
[09:39] <ihancioglu> I thnk the problem is on ATI drivers
[09:39] <szero> im trying to watch a dvd i rented from a movie store heh
[09:39] <jords> szero: try installling libdvdcss from medibuntu
[09:40] <julemand101> hallo, i have a wireless netcard (Ralink RT2561/RT61) but it dosn't work. I have try lots of guides a try compile the ralink rt61 module but i give a error. (i use ubuntu 7.10 and the card works in 7.04)
[09:40] <yereth> an OT noob question: can you combine memory with Cas 4 with Cas 5?
[09:40] <jords> szero: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:40] <jords> that's fixed all my dvd playing problems
[09:40] <ihancioglu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51326/
[09:41] <ihancioglu> yes here the xconf file
[09:41] <yereth> anyone?
[09:41] <mattholimeau> heya - can someone tell me a good way to take just the first line of stdin?
[09:41] <jonathan_> seems ubuntu 7.10 doesn't support many wireless card, my DWL-G122 D-LINK also doesn't work well
[09:41] <aszwet1> hey i'm having a huge problem with my memory
[09:42] <aszwet1> i'm only running rtorrent
[09:42] <aszwet1> and i only have 5mb of mem left
[09:42] <aszwet1> there is gui
[09:42] <szero> jords, ok thanks, ill give that a shot
[09:42] <aszwet1> and it's over ssh
[09:42] <aszwet1> that doesn't seem right to me
[09:42] <aszwet1> ...
[09:42] <yereth> aszwet1: run 'top'in a terminal and see what's eating your machine
[09:43] <aszwet1> i see lots of things yereth, but i'm not sure which ones i need and which ones i don't need
[09:44] <aszwet1> the only programs i need are openssh-server rtorrent, whatever runs nfs,  and all the dependencies for that, yereth,  how do i know what has to be on
[09:45] <yereth> aszwet1: is your machine slowing down?
[09:45] <hello2> how did I get in here form a tor node
[09:45] <aszwet1> i'm connecting via ssh so i really can't tell, but i know that it should have those kind of stats
[09:46] <yereth> well, as far as I know, linux reserves your memory anyway.. it just tries to maximise its use, I think
[09:47] <sn00zer> ihancioglu: i don't know what else to tell you, the only thing different in my setup that i've seen to make a difference is the xgl, i would try sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl and maybe a reboot, if that doesn't work you can uninstall it with sudo aptitude remove xserver-xgl
[09:47] <jonathan_> anybody know how to change the filesystem permission to read and write? please answer.
[09:47] <mavi-> the hole filesystem?
[09:47] <ihancioglu> OK , I will do it
[09:48] <jonathan_> yes
[09:48] <ihancioglu> I will give you a result
[09:48] <mavi-> mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint
[09:48] <jonathan_> the whole filesystem
[09:48] <sn00zer> ok
[09:48] <mavi-> will remount the fs with rw enabled
[09:48] <squegie> aszwet1: vmstat  -S m
[09:49] <PLSshowyourhelp> Is there some better radio station?
[09:49] <mavi-> to jonathan_ that is
[09:49] <aszwet1> what does that do squegie
[09:49] <squegie> aszwet1: it will give you an accurate showing of how much memory you're using, how much is swapped, and how much is free
[09:49] <jonathan_> mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint are the code to change the filesystem permissions?
[09:49] <mavi-> aszwet1: you want linux to use all your memory, that means it have all memory to hand out to processes
[09:50] <mavi-> jonathan_: its the command to remount the filesystem with read-write yes
[09:51] <jonathan_> mavi- : mount: can't find /mountpoint in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:51] <mavi-> you need to point it to your actual mount point.
[09:51] <moidekar> jonathan_: replace "/mountpoint" with the actual mount point of the filesystem
[09:51] <tuntun> I want to save the audio from a video so I can edit it in audacity. file/container formats don't matter as long as I can hear it properly in audacity. any help? (#VideoLAN isn't awake) :-)
[09:52] <mavi-> jonathan_: that is, if its /media/fs that you cant write to, do mount -o remount,rw /media/fs
[09:53] <jonathan_> oh.. I understand, seems I can't write the whole filesystem, but I can write some folders?
[09:53] <moidekar> jonathan_: you may also need to add "-o umask=0000" to enable writing to some filesystems (FAT/FAT32 was what I had the problem with)
[09:53] <szero> jords, after you did that were new updates available?
[09:53] <mavi-> jonathan_: is it a removeable disk?
[09:54] <mavi-> jonathan_: or a internal harddrive?
[09:54] <moidekar> jonathan_: You can mount an entire fs read-only, and if it was mounted ro, then what mavi says will remount it in a writeable state
[09:54] <jonathan_> mavi-: filesystem
[09:54] <aszwet1> !pastebin
[09:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:54] <mavi-> if you can write to some but not all on the FS its just the permissions
[09:55] <aszwet1> squegie, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51328/
[09:55] <aszwet1> that's what it said squegie
[09:57] <aszwet1> mavi-, so you think that this vmstat output is good: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51328/?
[09:57] <acidfire2008> anyone here use and know how to configure pure-ftpd?
[09:57] <aszwet1> mavi-, so you think that this vmstat output is good: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51328/  ?
[09:59] <squegie> aszwet1: that's probably about right.  the kernel will consume almost all memory, but your "active memory" is only about 50MB
[10:00] <squegie> you have over 300MB of inactive memory
[10:00] <aszwet1> so that memorie can still be used then squegie?
[10:01] <szero> jords and sn00zer: got it working, thanks for the help guys
[10:01] <squegie> aszwet1: correct.  if you use vmstat, you can keep on eye on  your active/inactive memory.
[10:01] <sn00zer> szero: no problem
[10:02] <aszwet1> squegie ok :)  thanx, that's more reassuring then no knowing that lol. so what is the difference between free memory and inactive memory?
[10:04] <tanlaan> hello everyone, so I have ubuntu on my laptop and I had forgotten my charger. I had forgotten to check what percentage I was at when my laptop sudden turned off. Once I plugged my charger in and came back to ubuntu, my desktop was blank except for the CD which I had in. ANy help?
[10:05] <squegie> aszwet1: free memory is what the kernel hasn't claimed yet from the system.  the kernel basically will claim memory from the system first and programs will request memory from the kernel.  this is done for speed
[10:05] <thejaba> Really silly question: in man pages when they say for exaple: refer to man cron(5) , what is the (5) part?
[10:05] <kling0n> tanlaan: try pressing alt+f2 and then type killall -9 nautilus and see if your desktop reloads
[10:06] <kling0n> thejaba: some man pages have multiple sections
[10:06] <squegie> aszwe1: the old way: app requests memory from kernel, kernel requests memory from system, kernel receives memory, kernel allocates memory received to programs
[10:06] <kling0n> thejaba: man 1 is usually program syntax
[10:06] <thejaba> how do i look at those sections?
[10:06] <kling0n> thejaba: but there could be another manpage to documnet the use of a library for example
[10:06] <kling0n> thejaba: man 5 foobar
[10:06] <thejaba> i have a problem with a crontab and i can't figure out how to look at the right section
[10:06] <thejaba> aahh
[10:06] <kling0n> thejaba: or man 8 foobar
[10:06] <thejaba> 2 ticks
[10:06] <kling0n> thejaba: 'man man' is your friend :)
[10:06] <thejaba> lol
[10:06] <thejaba> you legend
[10:06] <thejaba> :)
[10:06] <thejaba> thanks!
[10:07] <kling0n> youre welcome
[10:07] <thejaba> i was doing man crontab 5
[10:07] <thejaba> that's been bugging me for aaaages
[10:07] <kling0n> !man
[10:07] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:07] <aszwet1> squegie ok :)  that makes alot more sense now :) so basically i don't have to worry about running out of memory if i'm just gonna be running ssh and rtorrent?
[10:07] <thejaba> oooh, that's clever
[10:07] <tanlaan> kling0n: nope, it did restart but it restarted in the same exact way
[10:07] <thejaba> thanks kling0n!
[10:07] <kling0n> tanlaan: did you boot the machine or just restart x ?
[10:08] <tanlaan> kling0n: what do you mean?
[10:08] <blacklines> im having some sound issues with alsa and an intel driver--ive gone through the sound troubleshooting guide only to lose the driver (which apparently was installed before)...  sound worked fine for 7 months or so, and then one day--poof...  anyone care to lend me a hand?
[10:08] <squegie> aszwet1: i would say not.  granted, if you loaded up a million torrents or so, you might push your luck.  however, i think you would run out of bandwidth before you reached your memory limit :-)
[10:08] <kling0n> tanlaan: oh, so nautilus restarted ... sorry read you wring there
[10:08] <kling0n> *wrong
[10:08] <kling0n> tanlaan: did you hvae anything open that you didn't sav ?
[10:09] <kling0n> *save
[10:09] <gunashekar> blacklines: are you using a laptop?
[10:09] <tanlaan> kling0n: firefox, but that shouldn't affect my desktop
[10:09] <PLSshowyourhelp> why i can't login my QQ? who can help me,please?
[10:09] <blacklines> gunashekar, yes
[10:09] <kling0n> aszwet1: you generally don't ahve to worry too much about memory usage in linux... memory management is quite good
[10:09] <kling0n> tanlaan: ok
[10:09] <opus> hi
[10:09] <blacklines> gunashekar, a dell inspiron 1150 (if it matters)
[10:09] <gunashekar> which one may i know blacklines
[10:09] <kling0n> tanlaan: press ctrl+alt-backspace to kill X
[10:10] <gunashekar> ok
[10:10] <kling0n> PLSshowyourhelp: your 'QQ' ??
[10:10] <tanlaan> kling0n: alright, but this isn't the first time I've been on since the "incident" its the second time
[10:10] <kling0n> PLSshowyourhelp: what do you mean ?
[10:10] <blacklines> gunashekar, any suggestions?
[10:10] <gunashekar> blacklines: i suggest you join #alsa room
[10:11] <PLSshowyourhelp> kling0n:QQ in pidgin
[10:11] <tanlaan> kling0n: I'll brb
[10:11] <blacklines> gunashekar, thanks--Ill do that
[10:11] <gunashekar> blacklines: there usually are ppl there who can walk u through a solution
[10:11] <master_> does anyone know what the UUID in Fs tab means?
[10:11] <blacklines> cool
[10:11] <kling0n> PLSshowyourhelp: try describing your problem in #pidgin
[10:12] <shawnmstout> can someone please help me with this problem, i cannot copy/paste files in the file browser
[10:12] <shawnmstout> its a big issue
[10:12] <PLSshowyourhelp> kling0n: ok
[10:12] <finn> does anybody know what might have caused my apple bluetooth keyboard to start lagging?
[10:12] <kling0n> tanlaan: any differences?
[10:12] <tanlaan> kling0n: That didn't work
[10:12] <shawnmstout> im using gnome's file browser
[10:12] <finn> it was working just like a wired USB keyboard before and now it just has this delay :/
[10:12] <kling0n> tanlaan: hmm
[10:12] <finn> I replaced the batteries...
[10:12] <kling0n> tanlaan: what is in your ~/.xsession-errors file ?
[10:12] <finn> no software changes I can think of
[10:13] <kling0n> tanlaan: it could be necessary to kill gconfd
[10:13] <acidfire2008> anyone here use pureftpd?
[10:13] <kling0n> between restarts of the X session
[10:13] <kling0n> tanlaan: did you try a fulll reboot ?
[10:13] <kling0n> acidfire2008:
[10:14] <kling0n> http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=pureftpd+tutorial
[10:14] <mnemonica> Question: How do I update my graphics card?    Running 7.10 with Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[10:14] <tanlaan> kling0n: I've "rebooted", but in reality I shut it down and booted back up
[10:14] <kling0n> tanlaan: o
[10:14] <kling0n> tanlaan: hmm might be something in your session file then
[10:15] <kling0n> tanlaan: you *could* try removing 'saved_state' from your ~/.gconfd
[10:15] <chazco> Hi... is anyone able to explain how to sync a Samsung mobile phone with Gusty?