[00:09] <Juzzy> Anyone remember what sniper movie had a training scene where a guys is in the looking on the back of a truck directing a few guys trying to find the sniper and he keeps shooting the target beside the truck. at the end they give up and he stands up right in front of them?
[01:35] <cyberanger> netritious: Doing well, you?
[01:43] <netritious> cyberanger: glad to hear it. doing well myself.
[04:11] <Juzzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4xO0k9LcIU
[05:35] <netritious> Juzzy: I guess you would have to fine him first
[12:27] <minasota> Juzzy: happened to me last night but with a song. I could not remember the name of it. It was killing me


[00:12] <fta> FIREFOX_3_0_2_BUILD3
[00:13] <fta> FIREFOX_2_0_0_17_BUILD2
[00:18] <asac> bump
[00:19] <asac> when was BUILD1 tagged?
[00:19] <fta> Aug 28 02:47:51 <fta>     FIREFOX_2_0_0_17_BUILD1
[00:20] <asac> i mean 3_0_2 ;)
[00:20] <asac> apparently 17 missed a test cycle ;)
[00:21] <fta> thu 8am
[00:22] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/rss/rss-mozilla-tags.rss
[00:33] <fta> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_moves_to_mainstream_rss_with_a_simple_name_change.php
[00:40] <asac> fta: ok the awesome branch was restructured like discussed i think
[00:40] <asac> its a bit cumbersome with dpkg to test now (as expected)
[00:40] <fta> FIREFOX_3_1a2_RELEASE
[00:40] <fta> nice
[00:41] <asac> a2?
[00:41] <asac> do they really go for beta after that?
[00:41] <fta> in fact FIREFOX_3_1a2_BUILD1
[00:41] <asac> i doubt that that gets out before 3.0.2
[00:41] <asac> probably 1 week after 3.0.2
[00:41] <asac> or a few days after ;)
[00:41] <asac> if they are good
[00:41] <fta> trunk is now 3.1b1pre
[00:41] <fta> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/1ac4ead1f4fc7557082a5f59b52b278dbdfa0c58
[00:42] <asac> fta: ok. could you take a look at that brach?
[00:42] <asac> or should i upload to ppa?
[00:42] <fta> which branch ?
[00:43] <asac> i think i upload anyway ;)
[00:43] <fta> ff3.1 ?
[00:43] <asac> no 3.0.head.awesome
[00:43] <asac> (again)
[00:43] <fta> oh, i branched it & built it earlier today
[00:43] <fta> pulling
[00:44] <asac> 337
[00:46] <asac> how much i hate the bug that the orig.tar.gz gets always added to to changes
[00:46] <asac> do you have that too?
[00:46] <asac>  dpkg-genchanges -S -si
[00:46] <asac> dpkg-genchanges: including full source code in upload
[00:46] <asac> what a bullshit
[00:46] <asac> cant you read: -si ;)
[00:46]  * asac bangs his head on the keyboard
[00:47] <fta> eh? firefox-3.0-branding Replaces: firefox-3.0 ?
[00:47] <asac> yeah
[00:47] <asac> there is a file i nit that was previously in firefox-3.0
[00:47] <asac> actually a few ;)
[00:48] <asac> and versioned replaces will hit us further down the road
[00:48] <asac> so i had to just use Replaces ;)
[00:48] <fta> 2 newlines after webbrowser-3.0-branding in control
[00:50] <asac> the dh_install lines and the variable names could deserve a cleanup
[00:51] <fta> control too. 22 packages now -<:P
[00:52] <asac> yeah
[00:52] <asac> the build almost takes as long as xul ;) ... with all the packing up business goingon
[00:53] <asac> we could dump the firefox-trunk* and -granparadiso ones
[00:53] <asac> they shouldnt be required anymore
[00:53] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/control.gif
[00:53] <fta> funny tool
[00:54] <asac> yeh
[00:54] <asac> gif
[00:55] <fta> better than depend on flash for small live captures
[00:55] <asac> true
[00:56] <asac> is gnomefreaks ubuild still looping on the buildds?
[00:56] <asac> i saw his plain 1.9 build building yesterday
[00:56] <asac> is that known to him?
[00:56] <fta> each time i want to tell him; he's not there
[00:57] <fta> mozilla bug 452778
[00:57] <asac> why is that build always spining?
[00:57] <fta> unmet dep
[00:57] <asac> hmm
[00:57] <fta> mozilla-devscripts in gutsy
[00:57] <asac> thought one has to manually retry if its not in depwait
[00:58] <asac> if its in depwait it shouldnt happen until dep is there
[00:58] <asac> hmm
[00:58] <asac> k
[00:58] <fta> nope, it's automatic, every 30min or so
[00:58] <asac> well. hat thing needs to be stopped ;)
[00:58] <fta> some huge kde packages are like that since 18+ months
[00:59] <asac> oh dear
[00:59] <fta> i reported it a few times in #lp
[01:01] <fta> you still have chrome/awesome-*, is that expected ?
[01:02] <asac> yes.
[01:02] <asac> what i want is two things:
[01:02] <asac> "packagename"
[01:02] <asac> "brandingname"
[01:02] <asac> but well
[01:02] <asac> in the end i dont mind ;)
[01:02] <asac> that will chang when i change the branding branch :)
[01:02] <fta> i mean, awesome vs webbrowser
[01:03] <asac> yeah ... just saw that
[01:03] <asac> needs to be fixed in branding branch too
[01:03] <asac> thats why i didnt do it in this commits
[01:05] <asac> ok both builds in mt archive finished
[01:05] <asac> lets see ;)
[01:06] <asac> hmm takes a bit to publish
[01:08] <asac> doing a normal upgrade to get that time done ;)
[01:08] <fta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWDCeEJ9ZfI
[01:10] <asac> hurry you publisher ... hurry ;)
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> bah. reconnect >.<
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> asac, looking at your link now :)
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw, iceowl?
[01:33] <asac> *sigh*
[01:33] <asac> i lost track of that
[01:33] <asac> and it got removed
[01:37] <asac> fta: i think the build works quite well
[01:37] <asac> shouldnt have much upgrade issues :(
[01:37] <asac> Kamping_Kaiser: ill try to upload iceowl this weekend
[01:37] <asac> i am not yet sure what is really going on
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :( oh well. good luck with it
[01:38] <asac> so far i always had luck ;)
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[01:38] <asac> at least with debian releases
[01:38] <asac> and getting things in
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> mm.
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> asac, will your awsome browser change go into intrepid?
[01:49] <asac> as it seems now yes
[01:49] <asac> depending on what you want it could help you more. if you want to do complex things like renaming everything than we still have more work to do
[01:51] <asac> fta: now i remember why i wanted a firefox package installed even for "webbrowser"
[01:51] <asac> because of rdepends
[01:51] <fta> ?
[01:52] <asac> well ... atm when you install webbrowser, firefox wont be installed anymore
[01:52] <asac> so the rdepends that would be perfectly fine (like extensions) will not install anymore
[01:52] <asac> meaning: either we transition everything :/ .. or we do something less intrusive
[01:52] <fta> i see
[01:52] <asac> less intrusive obviously means less clean
[01:54] <asac> fta: what do you think?
[01:54] <asac> i guess we need to transition that :) ... no matter what
[01:54] <asac> everything just leaves us with a half baked solution ;)
[01:55] <fta> yes
[01:56] <fta> but is that ok with the freeze ?
[01:56] <asac> sure ;)
[01:56] <asac> thats a bug
[01:56] <asac> its just a depends line fix
[01:56] <asac> should be covered by the FFe for the new package
[01:56] <asac> but you never know in advance what release manager tells me ;)
[02:01] <fta> you should ask 1st before we start a crusade
[02:01] <fta> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/08/27/a-real-space-oddity-arrives-at-pc-pro/
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> sigh. i hate rainy weather.
[03:00] <Jazzva> asac, regarding nspluginviewer and flash objects... it seems to happen when someone embeds a flash object from another site. though, it doesn't really make sense to me why would that matter.
[10:23] <asac> Jazzva: huh?
[10:23]  * asac is in train .... so with some latency
[10:24] <asac> Jazzva: are you saying that flash-crashes happen only when flash is embedding content from a different site?
[10:24] <asac> Jazzva: on a nother front: i talked to cjwatson and mdz and they said that using "webbrowser" as the package name would be ok
[10:24] <asac> Jazzva: i doubt you have anything against that :)
[10:24] <asac> so i plan to use that now ;)
[10:31] <asac> hmm .... ok ... i think in a few minutes ill get off this train
[10:31] <asac> will be at home in an hour or so
[10:35] <asac> ok ..  cu later ;)
[11:32] <Nukeador> It's me or Mozilla.com is not working? neither bugzilla and irc.mozilla.org
[11:46] <sebner> Nukeador: for me it is
[11:46] <Nukeador> from US or EU?
[11:47] <sebner> Nukeador: EU#
[11:48] <Nukeador> mmmmmmmm
[11:48] <Nukeador> I have other people from Spain with problems
[11:48] <sebner> Nukeador: /me is from Austria :)
[11:48] <Nukeador> strange...
[13:36] <Jazzva> asac, asac_: Something like that... It happens with almost any embedded youtube video from Youtube on failblog.org, and with (some of the) Flash ads on that site.
[16:11] <fta> asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879423
[16:26] <armin76> bug 85147
[16:26] <armin76> asac: ^^ reproducible on gutsy
[16:27] <armin76> i think its related to cairo+xorg-server-1.3
[16:27] <armin76> thats why you can't reproduce, because you rice :P
[16:47] <armin76> asac: hardy doesn't crash
[18:34] <Jazzva> fta, that's related to nspluginviewer 1.0.0, I think
[18:34] <Jazzva> it happened to me...
[18:34] <Jazzva> I didn't notice that in 1.1.0, but 1.1.0 has another issue...
[19:16] <fta> asac, mozilla bug 451185 <== like my compare module in m-d :)
[21:55] <otro_viajero7> hello where can i find the firefox extensions source code?
[23:00] <fta> armin76, bumb
[23:00] <fta> gentoo bug 213782
[23:00] <fta> lol
[23:00] <fta> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213782


[06:52] <astraljava> knome: email sent
[06:53] <astraljava> Ooh... we're overweight.
[06:53] <Unit193> Just now found out?  And we're down some.
[06:55] <astraljava> I've been away.
[06:55] <astraljava> Down some doesn't help when the tracker links to 24th's image.
[06:55] <astraljava> ...which is 800MB.
[06:56] <astraljava> Is there a difference between a CD iso and a DVD iso? Can the testers be advised to use blank DVDs for that 800MB image?
[06:56] <elfy> crap - have I got the wrong ones ?
[06:57] <astraljava> elfy: Can't really answer that question. What did you use?
[06:57] <elfy> the tracker
[06:57] <elfy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20120724/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso for instance
[06:58] <elfy> 800Mb the 64 bit
[07:00] <elfy> 813 I mean
[07:00] <elfy> is there any point in me testing these?
[07:05] <astraljava> Oh, yes. That's the correct date according to the tracker.
[07:05] <astraljava> I mentioned 800MB just as a rough guide towards the magnitude we're talking.
[07:07] <elfy> k - cool
[07:07] <elfy> I'll get them tested today
[09:21] <ochosi> hey guys
[09:21] <ochosi> and hey gals
[09:22] <mr_pouit> hey you
[09:23] <ochosi> mr_pouit: it's my last day of work before the holidays, yay! :)
[09:23] <mr_pouit> he
[09:23] <ochosi> how's the diss goin?
[09:25] <mr_pouit> i've to write introduction + conclusion + finish the chapter about performances and I'm done (:
[09:26] <ochosi> congrats! that sounds great
[09:26] <ochosi> i'd love to be that far with mine...
[09:26] <mr_pouit> hihi
[09:26] <mr_pouit> you've one more year anyway :P
[09:27] <mr_pouit> (when is the next parole release!!!)
[09:28] <ochosi> lol
[09:28] <ochosi> well for the next parole release, i basically want to properly hide the mouse-cursor
[09:29] <ochosi> other than that, sean has a few issues he's working on (mostly audio-cd troubles)
[09:29] <ochosi> then it's release-time :)
[09:29] <ochosi> can you push it through debian to xubuntu?
[09:30] <ochosi> (i mean now that you're practically done with the diss... ;))
[09:30] <mr_pouit> testing is frozen (maybe it could be uploaded to experimental)
[09:30] <ochosi> and yes, i'm aware of ubuntu's FF date and i also talked about it with sean (it also affects catfish)
[09:30] <mr_pouit> so anyway, it can be uploaded to ubuntu directly
[09:31] <ochosi> yeah
[10:56] <malv> monthly reminder of important unfixed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1001936
[10:57] <malv> oh wait, i think it may have been fixed =_
[10:57] <malv> =)
[10:57] <malv> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 now we just need the fix downstream
[10:58] <elfy> nice -  that one is a bit freaky the first time you get it :)
[10:59] <malv> could one of the devs please bring the patch downstream? you will save my sanity
[11:00] <knome> mr_pouit, micahg ^ ?
[11:07] <malv> Link to xfwm4 4.10 patch  http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/commit/?h=xfce-4.10&id=099614e3f045e06db7ab509e174510ea74857adb
[11:28] <bluesabre> knome: I kinda forgot about this.  Still interested in a lightdm screen lock settings tool?
[11:29] <knome> bluesabre, i think... you should talk with olbi
[11:29] <knome> eh
[11:29] <knome> ochosi,
[11:29] <knome> anyway
[11:29] <knome> i'm off
[11:29] <knome> see you
[11:36] <olbi> what about me? :)
[11:36] <astraljava> Maybe you'd need to be off, too. I dunno. We never know what he means.
[11:41] <ochosi> olbi: i think he meant me and wrongfully pinged you ;)
[11:41] <olbi> oh, ok :D
[13:56] <micahg> hrm, seems like my changes didn't take at all :(
[13:57] <bluesabre> ochosi: Any idea on whether I still need to make a lightdm lockscreen preferences app?
[13:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: i'm not sure i was ever aware of that project tbh :)
[13:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: but in general i'd say, if we even get a proper lockscreen (without prefs) i'm more than happy
[13:58] <bluesabre> It was mentioned sometime last week
[13:58] <ochosi> right
[13:59] <bluesabre> So are we shooting for getting rid of xscreensaver, or just not using its lockscreen?
[13:59] <ochosi> well up to now the whole lightdm greeter thing was in madnick's hands...
[13:59] <ochosi> yeah, we get rid of xscreensaver and replace it with a lightdm-lockscreen
[13:59] <ochosi> screensavers are _so_ last millenium
[14:00] <bluesabre> I can create a control panel app for it if we get anywhere on that
[14:01] <ochosi> sounds great!
[14:02] <ochosi> still, i think that if madnick doesn't return soon and full of energy, the whole lightdm project should be re-assigned to someone else
[14:02] <ochosi> and if we don't find anyone, we have to continue with the gtk-greeter
[14:07] <micahg> well, why can't we use the same facility Ubuntu is for locking?
[14:08] <ochosi> micahg: gnome-settings-daemon dependency?
[14:09] <ochosi> the unity-greeter has that dependency
[14:09] <ochosi> and that was madnick's assignment, to fork it, patch it out and then ship it as xubuntu-greeter
[14:09] <ochosi> (ideally replace g-s-d with xfsettingsd)
[15:07] <pleia2> micahg: given your comment above, is that re: alts? I see there isn't a new one since the last I downloaded
[15:08] <micahg> yeah
[15:08] <pleia2> ok, I'll do some tests of the desktops today then :)
[15:11] <pleia2> I do hope they make enough progress to get rid of the alts this release (I see kubuntu didn't spin any up for the alpha3 in anticipation of them being dropped)
[15:21] <pleia2> we need some release notes, what changed since a2?
[15:49] <ochosi> bye everyone! ->
[15:51]  * pleia2 hugs ochosi
[15:51] <pleia2> enjoy!
[15:59] <micahg> hrm, so a3 alternates look like they may not happen, is the desktop image ok?
[15:59] <micahg> err...the xubuntu alternate
[16:00] <pleia2> I'll download desktop now and give it a try
[16:02] <micahg> I'm basically out of ideas on how to fix this
[16:03] <micahg> whenever webkit finishes building, we can copy it over and the libavcodec issue will be fixed, but that will be tomorrow sometime if we wait for all archs
[16:06] <GridCube> cant we ask for a fair time, like 12 hours to do the a3 tests?
[16:07] <GridCube> my internet now sucks but later ill be able to download and do vbox tests :/
[16:07] <micahg> ask for what? the builds are just slwo
[16:07] <GridCube> i mean for more time to do the tests
[16:08] <micahg> I can probably get one last set of images spun, but they're all or nothing (or we can grab a daily and validate it after and call it a3)
[16:09] <micahg> webkit takes 1.15 days on arm* and the armel build restarted 3 hours ago
[16:11] <GridCube> we do tests against that build?
[16:16] <micahg> which build...
[16:19] <GridCube> nothing, im confused now, and im making things worse, dont take me into  consideration please
[16:25] <pleia2> 64-bit desktop seems ok
[20:29] <Unit193> So there was one that said some he knew were interested in testing and having a PPC version, that just fall away?
[20:32] <pleia2> I think just lubuntu is doing ppc
[20:32] <pleia2> if someone could get a team of dedicated PPC testers it would be cool to do one, but we're barely making it with the images we already have :)
[20:32] <Unit193> Yes that's correct, but not really what I was looking for...
[20:35] <pleia2> well, I don't know that we ever had enough volunteers to seriously consider it (let alone let it "fall away")
[20:36] <Unit193> I was waiting for the respin, but looks like there will be no respin...
[20:36] <pleia2> of the alt?
[20:37] <Unit193> Well, generally 32bit ones.
[20:37] <pleia2> I think the desktop ones are all done
[20:39] <Unit193> I'll do a 32 desktop then.
[20:39]  * pleia2 too
[20:40] <Unit193> Could do an alternate as well, but that'd kill my precise > quantal surviver. :(
[20:40] <Unit193> survivor
[20:41] <pleia2> I think the alts are a little broken
[20:45] <Unit193> We'll findout I suppose, thanks.  Maybe-ubiquity is all black though.
[20:45] <pleia2> yeah, I included that in my list-o-bugs
[20:58] <GridCube> so, do i download the current image or i have to wait?
[20:59] <pleia2> we're testing the desktops now
[21:01] <skaet> astraljava, knome - is someone able to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1029032 ?
[21:01] <Unit193> Bug #1010487
[21:01] <skaet> let me know if there's a fix possible, and you want a respin.
[21:02] <pleia2> skaet: 09:03:33 < micahg> whenever webkit finishes building, we can copy it over and the libavcodec issue will be fixed, but that will be tomorrow sometime if we wait for all archs
[21:02] <pleia2> I think that's what he was talking about
[21:03] <micahg> we might be able to respin in about 5 hours, will need to discuss with infinity
[21:04] <GridCube> so desktop then :) amd64 or i386?
[21:04] <pleia2> GridCube: both! :)
[21:04] <GridCube> :P will try
[21:05] <micahg> I won't have the desktops respun later as they're not affected by the libav issue
[21:05]  * pleia2 nods
[21:05] <skaet> micahg,  should I associate this alternate bug with your webkit respins that are on the pad?  or is there something else in addition going on there?
[21:05] <Unit193> pleia2: You're doing entire?
[21:05] <pleia2> Unit193: I did a live for now, my lunch break is ending and I actually have to get back to my for real work :)
[21:06] <micahg> skaet: yeah, that should solve that meta bug
[21:06] <micahg> err...alternate bug
[21:06] <skaet> micahg,  :)   will do.
[21:06] <Unit193> Makes it easy for me, though I think desktop/alongside install is funky.
[21:07] <micahg> skaet: thanks
[21:15] <pleia2> knome: release notes!
[21:15] <skaet> Unit193, have added a note in the known issues in the technote about the bug.
[21:16] <Unit193> Hmmm? Alright, I suppose.
[21:16] <skaet> Thanks pleia2.  :)   was just about to ask about it.
[21:16]  * skaet figured there was a nice workaround, so, useful to folks.
[21:17] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha3
[21:17] <skaet> Unit193,  feel free to edit/delete if you disagree.
[21:42] <Unit193> pleia2: Yep, it is.
[22:48] <GridCube> o: qa tracker now has a "bugs to look for" part :D How awesome is that?!
[22:49] <pleia2> yeah, I love it :)
[22:50] <GridCube> :D
[22:51] <Unit193> Yeah, removing jockey was a dumb idea. :/
[23:18] <Unit193> Man, had to install jockey-common as -gtk is a package for "Software Sources" and useless....
[23:25] <micahg> there should be an ubuntu-drivers interface or something now
[23:28] <micahg> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-July/035553.html
[23:28] <Unit193> Unless there's another one that I don't know of, it was moved to software sources...
[23:28] <micahg> yeah, is it broke?
[23:30] <Unit193> Well, it didn't install the driver, and progrss sat at what I'd guess to be about 100 than went back to 50 and stalled.
[23:30] <micahg> sounds like a bug to file :)
[23:31] <Unit193> It's not really a better interface for me at all, but did get me to learn how to install them commandline style. :D
[23:31] <micahg> if there are deficiencies in the interface, please file bugs, the idea was to make things easier
[23:32] <Unit193> Unfortunately, best I can say right this second is "It didn't work for me", though I did notice a few other things I may be able to.