[07:23] <crimsun> phoghawk: and how have you determined that it's related to ALSA?
[07:23] <phoghawk> crimsun, yes, any sound that was outputting loops the last half second or so
[07:24] <jesse_> jeff_: yeah, limewire works just fine with a correctly installed java syatem
[07:24] <phoghawk> crimsun, well it doesn't always loop. Sometimes it's just a high-pitched continuous tone
[07:24] <phoghawk> crimsun, No, it's just a guess. i really have no idea
[07:24] <jeff_> jesse_: lol i dont know man, im in school and games are like my achilles tendon
[07:24] <jeff_> jesse_: what do i need for that
[07:24] <jeff_> ?
[07:24] <crimsun> phoghawk: does not using snd-emu10k1 (i.e., force-unloading the module) prevent the crash? That will necessitate using the cmipci for a while.
[07:25] <Bollenator> little help: I've been watching my fs_used field in torsmo rise by 10-30 MB per day since installing it; anyone know of a good way to track down extra MBs?
[07:25] <phoghawk> crimsun, I'm not exactly a linux expert lol. Perhaps you could explain what cmipci is? as well as how to force-unload the module
[07:25] <Bollenator> it's not /tmp (only 118K)
[07:26] <phoghawk> crimsun, is cmpci just my onboard sound?
[07:26] <jedrick> how to remove install programs?
[07:26] <crimsun> phoghawk: in a Terminal, type: echo snd-emu10k1 | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:26] <phoghawk> jedrick, apt-get remove programname
[07:26] <crimsun> phoghawk: then reboot
[07:26] <deFrysk> jedrick, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[07:26] <phoghawk> crimsun, thank you sir
[07:27] <jedrick> it says that theres no file and theres nothing to remove, why is that
[07:27] <phoghawk> crimsun, I'm rebooting, I'll be back
[07:27] <jesse_> jeff_: i dont understand? i thought you were getting java for limewire?
[07:27] <deFrysk> jedrick, package = packagenamewithoutanynumbersetc
[07:28] <jedrick> k
[07:28] <jedrick> deFrysk: same dude
[07:28] <deFrysk> jedrick, what package ?
[07:29] <jedrick> xmame, a game emulator
[07:29] <deFrysk> jedrick, installed with a .deb ?
[07:29] <jedrick> no, apt
[07:29] <Bollenator> hmmm, any ideas?
[07:29] <deFrysk> apt-get remove xmame
[07:29] <deFrysk> should do it
[07:29] <jeff_> jesse_: i am, but what do i need for a correct java installation?
[07:29] <jedrick> Package xmame is not installed, so not removed
[07:30] <deFrysk> jedrick, apt installs .deb's
[07:30] <deFrysk> jedrick, then its already uninstalled
[07:30] <jedrick> no it's not coz i can even play using the command xmame -x11 bla blah blah
[07:30] <deFrysk> jedrick, see if you can find the package in synaptic if its still there
[07:31] <jedrick> ok
[07:31] <jesse_> jeff_: the guide ubotu gave you should work
[07:31] <jesse_> !java
[07:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:32] <phoghawk> who was helping me with my soundcarred?
[07:33] <deFrysk> phoghawk, crimsun was
[07:33] <phoghawk> deFrysk, thanks
[07:33] <jedrick> deFrysk: ye it's still in there, there are four of them xmame-common, -sdl, -svga and -tools
[07:33] <phoghawk> crimsun, It's weird I ran that command and rebooted. Should I still have sound coming out of the Audigy? Because I do
[07:34] <deFrysk> jedrick, uninstall the ones who are installed
[07:34] <crimsun> uh...
[07:34] <crimsun> phoghawk: paste the output of lsmod onto paste
[07:34] <phoghawk> crimsun, just run "lsmod"?
[07:34] <jedrick> ok
[07:35] <phoghawk> crimsun, I pasted it
[07:36] <crimsun> phoghawk: next time please pass me the url, thanks
[07:36] <daaku> any bash guru's? i seem to have forgotten how to do a not on a condition (something like if !grep foo bar; then echo "no"; fi)
[07:36] <eric__> how to install a gz package?
[07:36] <H-moon> good morning.
[07:36] <eric__> tar somefile
[07:37] <phoghawk> crimsun, sorry, do you still need it?
[07:37] <eric__> then how to do next?
[07:37] <deFrysk> eric__, what package ?
[07:38] <eric__> x download
[07:38] <deFrysk> eric__, needed for ?
[07:38] <eric__> downloading software
[07:39] <cafuego> eric__: What does the .tar.gz file contain?
[07:39] <deFrysk> eric__, use wget or gwget
[07:39] <eric__> makefile.am, install
[07:39] <crimsun> phoghawk: tail /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:39] <cafuego> eric__: What *software*, not what files
[07:39] <deFrysk> eric__, or aget
[07:39] <eric__> I don't know how to install it.
[07:39] <cafuego> !+compiling
[07:39] <ubotu> Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.
[07:40] <deFrysk> thank you ubotu :D
[07:40] <eric__> downloader for X
[07:41] <deFrysk> eric__, find downloaders in synaptic , there are lots
[07:41] <casey_> Can anybody help me? I have a real problem with ubuntu. There seems to be a glitch or something.
[07:41] <phoghawk> crimsun, do you want me to paste that output? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4556
[07:41] <phoghawk> casey_, just ask the question
[07:41] <eric__> Do you know any other download tools for ubuntu?
[07:42] <darkness> What exactly do download toosl do?
[07:42] <cafuego> eric__: For downloading _what_ specifically? Just files from ther web? use a web browser.
[07:42] <darkness> Do they just download things for you, or do they install them too?
[07:42] <Astxist> isn't there a download manager in the package manager?
[07:42] <johnsie2k> what is the pengin liberation front?
[07:42] <johnsie2k> !plf
[07:42] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, johnsie2k
[07:42] <eric__> but I find the web browser too slow
[07:42] <cafuego> johnsie2k: google is your friend
[07:43] <varsendagger> milkn, echo -e "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" > /etc/resolv.conf
[07:43] <eric__> I never use linux before
[07:43] <varsendagger> --never mind
[07:43] <cafuego> eric__: Upgrade your internet connection.
[07:43] <johnsie2k> lol
[07:43] <eric__> deFrysk: Where are you from?
[07:43] <cafuego> eric__: You're not going to be able to speed up the downloads by installing extra software; byd efault it downloads at the maximum speed you connect at (or the server is connected at)
[07:43] <casey_> When I first installed Ubuntu on my computer I was able to set my monitor to 1024x768 at 75 hz. I uninstalled everything from my hard drive and repartitioned because it also had Windows XP and it was having problems. When I reinstalled Ubuntu I am no longer able to use 75 hz. My only option is 60 hz which my eyes can pick up on and it gives me migraines.
[07:44] <phoghawk> casey_, Try reconfiguring xserver-xorg
[07:44] <varsendagger> hey i am trying to configure fluxbox and i need to find out how to start programs with the menu
[07:44] <casey_> I have no idea what that means.
[07:44] <casey_> I'm a linux newbie.
[07:44] <eric__> cafuego: Could I know where you are from?
[07:44] <phoghawk> casey_, open a terminal and type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:45] <cafuego> eric__: Same place as deFrysk
[07:45] <deFrysk> venus
[07:45] <cafuego> plus or minus a few hundred K
[07:45] <deFrysk> planning to move to mars tho ;p
[07:45] <H-moon> um, how do i get a root password in unbuntu?
[07:45] <eric__> Netherland?
[07:45] <NoUse> !tell H-moon about root
[07:45] <cafuego> Yep.
[07:45] <deFrysk> !tell H-moon about root
[07:45] <H-moon> thanks
[07:45] <phoghawk> !tell phoghawk about root
[07:45] <phoghawk> lol
[07:46] <deFrysk> dang NoUse
[07:46] <varsendagger> !tell me about root
[07:47] <Madpilot> !tell casey_ about fixres
[07:47] <ElBarono> hi
[07:47] <phoghawk> crimsun, are you still here or are you just doing some researching
[07:47] <phoghawk> Hello ElBarono
[07:47] <ElBarono> is there a fix for the BADSIG problem yet?
[07:47] <coolstranger> hello
[07:47] <coolstranger> melissa
[07:47] <phoghawk> !tell phoghawk about fixres
[07:47] <coolstranger> hi
[07:47] <phoghawk> lol
[07:47] <varsendagger> !tell varsendagger about root
[07:48] <varsendagger> danmit
[07:48] <varsendagger> !root
[07:48] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:48] <phoghawk> someone tell ubotu to tell me about fixres
[07:48] <darkness> Hey, does anyone know if there are some GOOD tutorials on using the terminal for people new to Ubuntu?
[07:48] <crimsun> phoghawk: I'm actually at work
[07:48] <crimsun> phoghawk: /msg ubotu fixres
[07:48] <grace_> wow
[07:48] <phoghawk> crimsun, oh sorry
[07:48] <grace_> is there a seperate channel for edubuntu
[07:49] <Madpilot> grace_: #edubuntu
[07:49] <varsendagger> what is special aobut edubuntu?
[07:49] <grace_> there is this teachers tools on the edubuntu site
[07:49] <phoghawk> crimsun, messaging ubotu isn't helping. Nothing happens. I feel dumb
[07:49] <varsendagger> --- i know it is for education
[07:49] <dude> how do i open the uneverse and multiverse
[07:49] <crimsun> phoghawk: eh, no wonder. You made a typo. It's not "snd-cmu10k1", it's "snd-emu10k1".
[07:49] <Madpilot> !tell dude about repos
[07:49] <darkness> OooO, i did that ladt night dude!
[07:49] <ElBarono> hi, can someone please tell me WTF is the fix for the BADSIG problem?
[07:49] <deFrysk> !tell dude about repositories
[07:49] <ElBarono> this is getting annoying
[07:49] <crimsun> phoghawk: you're not identified to services
[07:49] <cafuego> !gpgerr
[07:49] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[07:49] <grace_> I want to suggest they look at including moodle.org
[07:49] <varsendagger> dude, y'll ahve to add it to the sources.list
[07:50] <grace_> they seem like minded
[07:50] <cafuego> !info moodle
[07:50] <ubotu> moodle: (Course Management System for Online Learning), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.5.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 13124 kB, Installed size: 81040 kB
[07:50] <dude> oh yeah sources list
[07:50] <cafuego> moodle is in 'universe'.
[07:50] <grace_> ok well thats great cause thats my next question
[07:50] <cafuego> ElBarono: ... or use a different mirror.
[07:50] <dude> how do i open sources list in the command line
[07:50] <grace_> where do I find this universe and multiverse sources business
[07:50] <cafuego> dude: any text editor.
[07:50] <grace_> I have to show a windows user
[07:51] <cafuego> dude: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:51] <deFrysk> dude, sudo <anyeditor> /path/to/whatever
[07:51] <cafuego> !repos
[07:51] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:52] <grace_> ah yes I was next off to synaptic
[07:53] <dude> it says uncomment two lines these? ##
[07:53] <phoghawk> crimsun, sorry, another computer freeze. How do I reverse my typo. And what should I actually type again?
[07:53] <H-moon> um, is there a !tell for networking with a powerPC?
[07:53] <NoUse> H-moon networking shoudl be the same for all archs
[07:54] <H-moon> i see...
[07:54] <shadowpool> hello all
[07:54] <crimsun> phoghawk: edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist using an editor. Change cmu10k1 to emu10k1
[07:54] <phoghawk> crimsun, okay
[07:54] <phoghawk> crimsun, then reboot?
[07:54] <H-moon> i can see my router, but i cant connect to the internet....
[07:54] <H-moon> i dont know where to go from there.
[07:54] <crimsun> phoghawk: yes
[07:55] <varsendagger> H-moon,  echo -e "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" > /etc/resolv.conf
[07:55] <NoUse> H-moon did you get an IP address from the touer?
[07:55] <phoghawk> crimsun, okay, brb
[07:55] <shadowpool> has anyone tried nexuiz on ubuntu?
[07:55] <grace_> should i turn on the back-port repositories or better to remove them?
[07:55] <H-moon> no, i assigned one.
[07:55] <r0d> greeting oo-boon-tu-ers
[07:55] <dude> how do i open up the sources so i can open the universe
[07:56] <NoUse> H-moon did you assing a gateway?
[07:56] <crimsun> dude: use Synaptic> Settings> Repositories
[07:56] <grace_> dude, I just did same and its excellent
[07:56] <grace_> should i turn on the back-port repositories or better to remove them?
[07:57] <grace_> im running an amd sempron and some of the package indexes for amd64 were not found
[07:57] <dude> ok i opened that up now what
[07:57] <grace_> dude, search for what you want to install
[07:57] <H-moon> NoUse: it seems i didnt.
[07:57] <workbean> urggh... gpgv errors again
[07:57] <grace_> or rather
[07:57] <NoUse> H-moon that would do it, usually the gateway is the IP of the router
[07:57] <grace_> !repos
[07:57] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:58] <Madpilot> grace_: leaving the backports out unless there's something you specifically need is usually a good idea
[07:58] <dude> thats it
[07:58] <dude> and then ad
[07:58] <dude> add
[07:58] <H-moon> NoUse: it is...
[07:58] <Madpilot> dude: read the first URL in ubotu's post above, it'll walk you through the process
[07:59] <phoghawk> crimsun, Hey, I'm sound-free lol. So... now what do I do?
[08:00] <NoUse> H-moon so its working now?
[08:00] <kapputu> any resources on improving performance with low memory computers?
[08:00] <r0d> how here is a dapper user? thoughts if so
[08:00] <r0d> *who
[08:01] <NoUse> kapputu might want to run XFCE instead of gnome
[08:01] <H-moon> NoUse: no, i cant figure out how to add the gateway.
[08:01] <intelikey> kapputu what are you calling "low memory" ?
[08:01] <kapputu> NoUse, that takes out the fun
[08:01] <kapputu> 256meg
[08:01] <kapputu> P-III 850
[08:01] <NoUse> H-moon have you tried the gnome network settings program?
[08:01] <H-moon> *nods*
[08:02] <H-moon> apps --> sys tools --> network tools?
[08:02] <NoUse> H-moon yeah
[08:02] <kapputu> intelikey, this is a laptop with a 4200 rpm drive
[08:03] <kapputu> breezy is like there is no breeze at all
[08:03] <NoUse> H-moon click on the eth device and click properties
[08:03] <NoUse> H-moon you'll see it
[08:03] <intelikey> kapputu rule of thumb, killing anything you don't need helps in most cases.
[08:04] <H-moon> Nouse, i have a configure button...
[08:04] <Cryptid> IS there a keyboard short cut to shutdown the computer?????
[08:04] <H-moon> but it doesnt do any thing...
[08:04] <NoUse> H-moon are you running breezy?
[08:04] <H-moon> er, whats breezy?
[08:04] <NoUse> H-moon version of ubuntu
[08:05] <H-moon> i dont know, its the latest one for the PPC
[08:05] <intelikey> Cryptid [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]    normally restarts it but you cna set that to power off if you like.
[08:05] <pepsi> what ever happened to grumpy?
[08:05] <NoUse> H-moon does your router not act as a DHCP server?
[08:05] <kapputu> intelikey, how do I find that out?
[08:05] <H-moon> yes
[08:05] <kapputu> intelikey, I ran ps but found that I was running stuff that I was using
[08:05] <NoUse> H-moon so why not use that?
[08:06] <H-moon> cause i didn't know how to have the card auto asign ^////^
[08:06] <zack_> is it possible to play .wmv files?
[08:06] <intelikey> kapputu trial and error in your case would probably work.  ps ax  and start at the dubble digets
[08:06] <Cryptid> intelikey, how do i set it to power off?
[08:06] <NoUse> H-moon it should ahve defaulted to DHCP
[08:06] <cafuego> You can even make a right mouse-click shut the computer off :-)
[08:06] <McJerry> how do i get spdif output to work?
[08:07] <H-moon> oh.. ok
[08:07] <intelikey> Cryptid in /etc/inittab   man inittab   for info on it.
[08:07] <phoghawk_> crimsun, Okay, my computer froze for no reason. I'm guessing that's a bad sign
[08:07] <bets> hello
[08:07] <phoghawk_> crimsun, anyways what should I do now?
[08:07] <bets> how is everyone
[08:07] <crimsun> phoghawk_: run memtest on it. Choose it from the GRUB menu
[08:08] <kapputu> ah evolution alarm-notify is running in the background
[08:08] <zack_> is there something i can download in the package manager that will play .WMV files?
[08:08] <NoUse> zack_ mplayer
[08:08] <zack_> thanks
[08:09] <NoUse> H-moon run 'lsb_release -a' from a terminal and tell me what it says next to codename
[08:09] <McJerry> how do i get spdif output to work?
[08:09] <kapputu> intelikey, how do I find out about CPU usage and memory apart from System Monitor
[08:09] <Cryptid> intelikey, can i set some other combination of keys such as [ctrl] +[alt] +S to shutdown the system?
[08:09] <crimsun> McJerry: use plug:iec958 as the ALSA output device
[08:09] <kapputu> I don't know how to interpret System monitor's results
[08:09] <NoUse> McJerry depends on the type of card, just the mixer and make sure the volume is on
[08:10] <phoghawk_> crimsun, I don't understand memtest lol. What should I look for?
[08:10] <intelikey> Cryptid yes but read the man page on it.  'man inittab '
[08:10] <crimsun> phoghawk_: just choose it and press Enter
[08:10] <H-moon> oh.... fuck
[08:10] <crimsun> phoghawk_: if something's wrong, you'll be able to tell
[08:10] <kapputu> what's bonobo??
[08:10] <intelikey> kapputu top ?
[08:10] <H-moon> um, i gues its not good to restart you system with the disk in...
[08:10] <NoUse> H-moon ?
[08:10] <crimsun> kapputu: it's a CORBA implementation
[08:11] <NoUse> H-moon what disk?
[08:11] <ali> hi can anyone guide me which is the best programming language for network programming
[08:11] <ali> thanks in advance
[08:11] <McJerry> amd64 msi k8neo with onboard audio
[08:11] <intelikey> kapputu use 'man blah '
[08:11] <dikadika> Which packages does one install in order to install the kernel source packages? in 5.10
[08:11] <kapputu> yeah I ran top too but it just shows Xorg, Firefox etc running
[08:11] <McJerry> have checked and audio not muted in gnome
[08:11] <H-moon> er.... the install cd
[08:11] <kapputu> intelikey, there was bonobo-activation-server running
[08:11] <kapputu> couldn't find a man page for that
[08:11] <crimsun> McJerry: you need to unmute the iec958 elements
[08:11] <NoUse> H-moon you can cancell the installation before it does any damage
[08:11] <H-moon> <-- feels real stupid.
[08:12] <H-moon> well i could have, but it desided that it wanted to erease the OS.
[08:12] <kapputu> why would firefox take 116m
[08:12] <H-moon> yay.... yay me
[08:12] <kapputu> I have 7 tabs open
[08:12] <phoghawk_> crimsun, okay
[08:12] <NoUse> H-moon the installation doesn't start until you tell it to
[08:12] <H-moon> i guess thats what you get for doing this at 2 in the morning...
[08:12] <McJerry> crimsun.... haven't messed with linux since 2001....where do i unmute the iec950 elements?
[08:12] <intelikey> ali java is popular
[08:13] <crimsun> McJerry: Volume Control, or alsamixer in the console
[08:13] <H-moon> ill be back tomarow if i cant get it to work...
[08:13] <kapputu> warty was better actually
[08:13] <H-moon> but thanks NoUse, your were a big help ^_+^
[08:13] <NoUse> H-moon good luck
[08:13] <intelikey> ooops havent killed cron yet....  bbiab
[08:13] <H-moon> thanks
[08:16] <kapputu> I think it's firefox that's slow
[08:17] <nomed> how can i chroot /path and use xterm? mainly x apps?
[08:17] <H-moon> ahha! stupid powerbook tricked me!
[08:19] <H-moon> NoUse:
[08:19] <H-moon> er
[08:20] <NoUse> H-moon I'm leaving soon
[08:20] <NoUse> H-moon whats up?
[08:20] <H-moon> it is breezy
[08:20] <NoUse> H-moon ok, can you get the network settings app to work?
[08:21] <H-moon> um, let me check
[08:21] <H-moon> still wont do anything when i press the config button
[08:22] <NoUse> H-moon something is wrong there
[08:22] <H-moon> seems that way.
[08:23] <H-moon> *sigh*
[08:23] <GTroy> hate to ask this, how do I change a wav file into an mp3?
[08:23] <H-moon> i should be doing this with a clear head...
[08:23] <NoUse> H-moon you can edit settings manual via /etc/network/interfaces
[08:23] <intelikey> hmmm i've got 9m of space in which to install 40m of data.......   something will have to go.
[08:24] <NoUse> H-moon see man 5 interfaces for syntax
[08:24] <cafuego> intelikey: trash emacs
[08:24] <intelikey> not installed
[08:24] <mcjerry> crimsun:  please excuse ignorance, am in alsamixer IEC958 set to PCM, IEC958 P unmuted
[08:24] <mcjerry> suggestions?
[08:25] <NoUse> H-moon I'm out, good luck
[08:25] <H-moon> night and thanks
[08:25] <r0d> how can you trash gnome. its super cool
[08:25] <concept10> anyone torcs players here?
[08:25] <r0d> beats the gooy filled kde
[08:25] <intelikey> super cool to you is junk to me....
[08:25] <Razor-X> concept10: torcs?
[08:26] <crimsun> mcjerry: too vague. I need the output from amixer on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:26] <concept10> Razor-X, The open race car simulator
[08:26] <r0d> i c intelikey you like the windows look...
[08:26] <Razor-X> concept10: oh, then no then :P
[08:26] <concept10> I wish it was a network game, I am the ultimate driver
[08:27] <intelikey> r0d nope that is why i don't like gnome :)
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> how would i play a .m4v in linux?
[08:27] <Cryptid> intelikey, help me man i am unable to undetstand anything ,,, all i want to do is to be able to shutdown my box by pressing a combination of keys such as ctrl+alt+s
[08:27] <r0d> intelikey, gnome look like windoze? nonsense my friend. kde is the windows alternative
[08:27] <H-moon> (man 5?)
[08:28] <r0d> intelikey, or you so 13373, you dont use gui for desktop
[08:28] <Bobby> hai
[08:28] <cafuego> If you configure them right, both [do|don't]  look like windoze.
[08:28] <cafuego> So either way, the point is moot.
[08:28] <Bobby> gg
[08:28] <intelikey> Cryptid msg me the line in etc/inittab that says ctrl+alt+del
[08:28] <H-moon> whats "an 5"?
[08:28] <H-moon> *man 5
[08:28] <grace_> darn play a dvd didnt work
[08:28] <deus> How can i add a root account?
[08:28] <johnsie2k> anyone know how to install a gnome theme.... i've downloaded a tar from gnome-look.org
[08:28] <cafuego> section 5 of the man pages.
[08:29] <grace_> !libdvdcss
[08:29] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, grace_
[08:29] <cafuego> !root
[08:29] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:29] <intelikey> r0d desktop is windowish,   console only  :)
[08:29] <cafuego> !dvdcss
[08:29] <ubotu> dvdcss is, like, totally, install 'libdvdread3' and then run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[08:29] <grace_> !dvdcss
[08:29] <grace_> ;^)
[08:29] <deus> Or how can i connect to the web based cups configuration system!?
[08:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what m4v is, and what player might play it?
[08:29] <cafuego> mpeg 4 video
[08:29] <cafuego> what's on a dvd
[08:30] <Cryptid> intelikey, # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. (flowing is in the next line)
[08:30] <Cryptid> ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
[08:30] <deus> Or how can i connect to the web based cups configuration system without a root account?!?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just re
[08:31] <tito> what are some good desktop environments other than gnome and kde?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just re-installed ubuntu.  can someone tell me what to install to get back proprietary format support, like for wma and divx?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> tito fluxbox
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> err..that's just a wm
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> xfce
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome, kde, and xfce really are the leaders.
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> i think, overall, gnome is the best.
[08:31] <tito> i have xfce4 and flux.....any others
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> kde still owns it in a few areas though
[08:32] <tito> i use gnome now
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> flux is not a desktop environment, just a window manager to my knowledge
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome rules.
[08:32] <Bobby> dd
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have used kde for a long time
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> i seriously think gnome is the best choice overall.
[08:32] <polpak> The only other desktop environment I know of is Enlightenment
[08:32] <mcjerry> crimsun: output posted
[08:33] <d03boy> i need some help mounting a partition... the problem is that i dont know which partition i need mounted (the naem of it)
[08:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> d03boy you could easily look at that with gparted
[08:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> d03boy if you don't like using cfdisk, just install and run gparted
[08:34] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[08:34] <darkness> Hey, i have compiled a simple program which was written in c++, it just uses a comand line thingy to input/output information. I cannot open this unless i do it through the terminal. No problem about that except that i forgot the code to open it.
[08:34] <pulaski> hello
[08:34] <darkness> So, how do i open a file from the terminal?
[08:34] <polpak> darkness, ./filename will run your program
[08:34] <kapputu> gedit filename
[08:34] <d03boy> darkness, is it compiled already/
[08:34] <darkness> Thanks.
[08:35] <darkness> Yeah, i remember how to compile it.
[08:35] <darkness> new it was something like ./...
[08:35] <polpak> darkness, The program has to be in your path, or you have to supply the path
[08:35] <polpak> darkness, So by typing ./file you are telling your shell to run the program file in the current (./) directory
[08:35] <d03boy> does ubuntu use apt to install software?
[08:35] <darkness> Yeah, it is in the right path.
[08:35] <polpak> d03boy, yes
[08:36] <darkness> I just couldn't remember the line to open it.
[08:36] <nemik> anyone here use netbeans?
[08:36] <darkness> Tried programming in Java and didn't like it..
[08:36] <d03boy> i dont really like having to type sudo before all this stuff :(
[08:36] <grace_> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh complains about no acceptable c compiler found
[08:36] <intelikey> Cryptid you get any of that ?
[08:36] <nemik> d03boy, passwd root
[08:36] <polpak> d03boy, you can use sudo -s to get a shell
[08:36] <nemik> or that
[08:36] <deus> Or how can i connect to the web based cups configuration system without a root account?!?
[08:37] <Cryptid> intelikey, well i am tring to understand it,,,,
[08:37] <nagual> I have set up an ubuntu email server using postfix, and cyrus imap.  I can use evolution from a different machine on my network and send mails just fine, but cannot recieve them.  Any suggestions on where to start the troubleshooting?
[08:37] <d03boy> this gparted is nice..
[08:37] <darkness> How do i become a registered user here?
[08:37] <mcjerry> how do i unmute spdif in alsamixer?
[08:37] <polpak> d03boy, yea, it's partition magic for the rest of us =)
[08:37] <Cryptid> intelikey, i understood which commd is to be used but i dunno how to assign it to combination of keys
[08:38] <grace_> hmmm   gcc 4 base  and   gcc 3 base are already listed in synaptic as being installed
[08:38] <pulaski> I need to create a .deb file from the java 1.5 binary from sun. my apt-get can't find the java-package.  Any suggestions how to proceed?
[08:38] <Juhaz> darkness, /msg nickserv help register
[08:38] <polpak> pulaski, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repos?
[08:38] <darkness> Thanks
[08:38] <pulaski> yes
[08:38] <grace_> what c compiler do I need to install the libdvdcss
[08:38] <intelikey> Cryptid why not go the easy way and use ctrlaltdel  ?
[08:38] <pulaski> I have polpok
[08:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> Couldn't find package mplayer <-- ??
[08:39] <pulaski> thank you for responding
[08:39] <polpak> !find java-package
[08:39] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[08:39] <darkness> REGISTER <poppet>
[08:39] <polpak> it should be there
[08:39] <intelikey> you could also make ctrlaltdel run "init 0 "  which is power off.
[08:39] <darkness> Oops.
[08:39] <Cryptid> intelikey, but i dont want to mess with the default configuration and another reson of not doing that is i will not have a restart system combination
[08:40] <intelikey> init 6 is restart
[08:40] <polpak> Cryptid, what are you trying to do?
[08:40] <intelikey> 'sudo init 6 '
[08:40] <pulaski> ok polpak try'n your suggestion.  Thanks.
[08:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> what do i need in my sources.list to get mplayer?
[08:40] <polpak> !find mplayer
[08:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mplayer' (11 shown): mozilla-mplayer ;; mplayer-386 ;; mplayer-586 ;; mplayer-686 ;; mplayer-custom ;; mplayer-doc ;; mplayer-fonts ;; mplayer-k6 ;; mplayer-k7 ;; mplayer-nogui ;; xmms-xmmplayer.
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> im trying to listen to a cd....and for some reason i keep getting a buch of beeps?
[08:41] <Cryptid> polpak, i am trying to make a system shutdown keyboard shortcut..
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> anybody know what it could be?
[08:41] <Cryptid> polpak, can u help me with it?
[08:41] <Madpilot> Steinbeck1: electronica?
[08:41] <nagual> I have set up an ubuntu email server using postfix, and cyrus imap.  I can use evolution from a different machine on my network and send mails just fine, but cannot recieve them.  Any suggestions on where to start the troubleshooting?
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> no
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> well i just switched to alsa after it tested it
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> and it seemed fine
[08:41] <d03boy> ive got a question about gnomein ubuntu... how can I get the file browser windows to NOT open up new windows every time?
[08:41] <pulaski> thanks ubotu.
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> when i went to listen to a cd off of it it started beeping
[08:42] <intelikey> Cryptid it's been a while sense i really messed with inittab but a key combo for every option really isn't worth the effort, imo.
[08:42] <intelikey> it's so easy to type init #
[08:42] <mcjerry> crimsun: you still here?
[08:43] <ogami1972> hi channel- today's problem is sound related: I can't seem to record in...
[08:44] <darkness> Can anyone suggest something to do with my computer that would test my knowledge of Ubuntu? Or kinda teach me something....
[08:44] <darkness> I just feel like i should be learning more about it..
[08:45] <ogami1972> turn it inot a linux-based DAW
[08:48] <pulaski> well thanks polac and ubotu.  I'll go search multiverse and universe again.  Any particular section?
[08:48] <polpak> !find java-package
[08:48] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[08:48] <polpak> miscellanous?
[08:48] <Madpilot> pulaski: just use the Search button in Synaptic, it's way easier than trying to hunt thru categories
[08:48] <polpak> I just use synaptic and searc for it
[08:49] <pulaski> multiverse/misc OK!
[08:49] <pulaski> cya
[08:49] <pulaski> thanks Madpilot
[08:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone link me to a working apt-get sources.list?  i just reinstalled, and even after uncommenting most of the lines, i can't get mplayer
[08:51] <nagual_> ok. I have set up an ubuntu email server using postfix, and cyrus imap.  I can use evolution from a different machine on my network and send mails just fine, but cannot recieve them.  Any suggestions on where to start the troubleshooting?
[08:51] <intelikey> Cryptid if i recall correctly setting up additional key combos requires editing keyboard map files.  which i don't like to mess with really, but you feel free too.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> !tell BROKEN_LADDER about repos
[08:51] <nagual_> I think the problem lies with postfix not listening to the outside world.  How can I configure it to do this?
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> Hobbsee it's not working.
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't see any repo information.
[08:52] <Hobbsee> oh?
[08:52] <Hobbsee> !repos
[08:52] <ubotu> I heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> that worked
[08:52] <Hobbsee> no problems :)
[08:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> Hobbsee i'm already looking at that site
[08:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just want to know which repos to add
[08:53] <Hobbsee> BROKEN_LADDER: copy paste the breezy sources list?
[08:53] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee :)
[08:53] <Hobbsee> hey aftertaf :)
[08:54] <kestas> I downloaded a vid, and it has an audio codec Audio Codec: MPEG Layer 2/3 (0x55), which I can't decode
[08:54] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, Did you apt-get update after uncommenting your sources.list?
[08:54] <msr> join #sevilla
[08:54] <kestas> what should I do to be able to decode the audio?
[08:54] <agtnz> How do I open ports with Linux, like for torrents etc? I tried installing firestarter but it crashes on me...
[08:55] <polpak> kestas, Read the getting started guide.. It tells how to get media formats working
[08:55] <polpak> agtnz,  really?? I haven't had any issues with it. When does it crash?
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh crap, i forgot to take out the disc line
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> polpak oh yeah
[08:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> polpak didn't help
[08:56] <agtnz> polpak: I uninstalled it now, but it was after the first screen, just when I pressed 'next'. I'm using a server install of breezy w/ xubuntu installed, that might affect it
[08:57] <polpak> agtnz, I'm not sure.. I assume you have all the gome libs etc?
[08:57] <mcjerry> can anyone help me get spdif out working? card nvidia ck8s , chip realtek alc850
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://pastebin.com/430055 <-- my sources.list
[08:57] <agtnz> Yeah, well I would have thought they'd be installed as dependencies anyway. Trying to keep this machine minimal so haven't actually installed the gnome package
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER>  Couldn't find package mplayer
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> wtf ..i just want to install mplayer
[08:59] <intelikey> going to super-clean this system,  bbiab
[08:59] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: aptitude says it's in multiverse.
[08:59] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: doesn't surpise me, given the license funness with anything video!
[08:59] <grace_> damn dvdcss wont install because the script cant find a compatible c compiler
[09:00] <grace_> what should I install to fix that
[09:00] <agtnz> build-essential?
[09:00] <mr-russ> grace_: do you have gcc installed?
[09:00] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, your sources.list does not have multiverse enabled
[09:01] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, and mplayer is in multiverse
[09:01] <kestas> polpak, thanks sound's working now
[09:01] <polpak> kemik, np =)
[09:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> ??
[09:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> everything is uncommented
[09:01] <kestas> now to see if everyone was right when they said doom was crap
[09:01] <polpak> kestas,  NP rather =_
[09:01] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: multiverse is not in sources.list at ALL, you have to add it.
[09:02] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: add multiverse to the end of your universe line.
[09:02] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, then apt-get update
[09:02] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: your backports has multiverse, but that's it.
[09:02] <mr-russ> polpak: it's not in his sources.list
[09:02] <polpak> mr-russ, I know. I was saying to apt-get update after he adds it
[09:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> thx
[09:04] <grace_> mr-russ, I have gcc 3.3 and gcc 4.0
[09:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> E: Couldn't find package gmplayer
[09:05] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, gmplayer isn't in multiverse that I saw I thought you wanted mplayer
[09:06] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, just curious, but is there a reason you absolutly must use mplayer? Totem works good...
[09:07] <MARCHEV> ko proite be mushmoroci
[09:07] <eric__> how to uninstall j2sdk
[09:08] <MARCHEV> ubuntu sucks
[09:09] <phil_> why i used "apt-get remove --purge " to remove package but it's still here?
[09:09] <MARCHEV> linux is the best fuck i ever see
[09:09] <Madpilot> phil_: did you use sudo in front of that command?
[09:10] <phil_> yes,i do
[09:10] <phil_> what's the meaning the paramenter "purge"?
[09:12] <GTroy> how do you install a run binary?
[09:12] <GTroy> it's in source code
[09:13] <polpak> GTroy, what program is it?
[09:13] <GTroy> it's called planeshift
[09:13] <GTroy> found it off ubuntu wiki
[09:14] <polpak> afaik it only pretty much depends on crystalspace
[09:14] <GTroy> hmm ok
[09:14] <polpak> but
[09:14] <polpak> it comes precompiled
[09:14] <polpak> it's not source
[09:14] <polpak> you have the .run file?
[09:15] <GTroy> oh yep
[09:15] <GTroy> there's no man page for 'run'
[09:15] <GTroy> if it's a command
[09:15] <polpak> GTroy, chmod +x ./PlaneShift && ./PlaneShift
[09:16] <polpak> but replace PlaneShift with the file name you downloaded
[09:16] <polpak> GTroy, it should  extract the files
[09:16] <GTroy> ok cool
[09:16] <fatehaze> is there any way to get scummvm working on ubuntu?
[09:16] <derrickw> i'm glad that public school so well prepared me for college; having already researched the black death three times, the fourth time has required exceptionally little effort
[09:17] <agtnz> fatehaze: its in the repositories. i have it wrking
[09:17] <eric__> how to uninstall a program??
[09:17] <fatehaze> i tried it, it says that libflac6 is uninstallable
[09:17] <fatehaze> er, as in, not installable
[09:17] <polpak> eric__, Depends on the program
[09:18] <agtnz> fatehaze: weird, worked for me... hmm
[09:18] <fatehaze> i have libflac7, but apparently it depends on libflac6
[09:18] <aftertaf> fatehaze: i find a libflac7
[09:18] <aftertaf> ahh.
[09:18] <ekimus> eric__: apt-get remove <program> (if you installed it over apt-get)
[09:19] <fatehaze> perhaps this is a powerpc bug
[09:20] <eric__> I installed a Java enviroment, but it doesn't work. So I want to uninst it.
[09:20] <agtnz> fatehaze: yea theres a thread on ubuntuforums in which the guy said he solved it by getting libflac6 from debian testing.. hold on
[09:20] <derrickw> if there is ever a outbreak of the black plague in lancaster, i am going to carry a handkerchief that has been dipped in aromatic oil to prevent the smell from reaching me and infecting me
[09:21] <derrickw> unless it's the septicemic plague, in which case i guess i'm fucked
[09:21] <agtnz> fatehaze: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75784&highlight=libflac6
[09:21] <nagual> how can I create a mailbox for a user?
[09:21] <agtnz> fatehaze: dunno how to do that though :P
[09:21] <aftertaf> derrickw: beware language :P
[09:22] <derrickw> aftertaf - are there many young children in a ubuntu support channel?
[09:22] <aftertaf> derrickw: you never know... thats why the CoC exists....
[09:22] <derrickw> aftertaf: fair enough
[09:22] <fatehaze> i'll check it out
[09:22] <GTroy> polpak: thanks working now
[09:22] <fatehaze> thanks guys!
[09:22] <linkd> i dont know what CoC is
[09:22] <polpak> GTroy, cool, glad to hear it
[09:23] <derrickw> anybody know why i can never connect to dal net? it always times out
[09:23] <nec> hey  can anyone tell me how to update 5.04 ubuntu into new breezy dist without downloading iso?
[09:23] <aftertaf> nec, change hoary to breezy in your sources.list
[09:23] <aftertaf> nec then apt-get update / dist-upgrade
[09:23] <nec> ok
[09:24] <nec> i'll try
[09:24] <nec> cu
[09:24] <aftertaf> derrickw: :]   linkd its in the topic
[09:24] <aftertaf> linkd: infact it isnt...but it was ;)
[09:24] <derrickw> i'm so glad breezy updated the file manager to support "back" and "forward"
[09:24] <linkd> ok
[09:24] <Cryptid> I am using Ubuntu Breezy and i find the initial Ubuntu Loading screen where it shows all module loading and mounting local file system pretty booring (Color & design) so is there a way i can change it?????
[09:25] <crimsun> Cryptid: search the forum for usplash modifications
[09:25] <Cryptid> !usplash
[09:25] <ubotu> I heard usplash is for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[09:25] <marco_> hello everyone, i'm trying to force quit mplayer, any suggestions?
[09:26] <aftertaf> marco_: KILL....    or console sudo killall mplayer
[09:26] <viviersf> maro_ easiest way :
[09:26] <viviersf> alt+F2 : run xkill
[09:26] <Cryptid> crimsun, have u done this sort of things before? is it easy to change the usplash screen?
[09:26] <viviersf> and click on mplayer
[09:27] <marco_> viviersf, thankls
[09:27] <viviersf> Cryptid, its not hard making your own usplash screen
[09:27] <viviersf> you just have to compile a package
[09:27] <Cryptid> viviersf, i dont want to make one i just want to download a premade and replace my existing one
[09:28] <viviersf> Cryptid, what is your existing one ?
[09:28] <viviersf> the ubuntu one ?
[09:29] <Cryptid> viviersf, ya the ubuntu one (brown and booring)
[09:30] <derrickw> can someone tell me how to get a list of users in a room under x-chat?
[09:30] <viviersf> Cryptid, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:30] <viviersf> :)
[09:31] <viviersf> or : edubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:31] <crimsun> or xubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:31] <derrickw> i wish i hadn't put my second monitor in the attic. i miss it
[09:32] <ompaul> derrickw, can you see a bar on the right with a series greying lines to the right of the scroll bar?
[09:32] <ulaas> will mono stack be ever updated in breezy?
[09:33] <crimsun> no
[09:33] <crimsun> breezy froze as of oct 13.
[09:33] <derrickw> ompaul - yeah, i found it now, thanks
[09:33] <derrickw> any word on when dapper drake is going to be officially released? i love the name
[09:33] <ompaul> ulaas, a distro does not upgrade it just bug fixes
[09:33] <ulaas> crimsun, backports?
[09:34] <derrickw> i would update to it just for the name. i'm tempted to update to the alpha release just for the name, but that's probably not prudent
[09:34] <crimsun> ulaas: no idea. I presume so. We're working on Dapper currently.
[09:34] <polpak> derrickw, ubuntu is on a  ~ 6 month release cycle..
[09:34] <ompaul> derrickw, some time in april next year most likely and by the way check out definitions online for drake cos this one ain't no duck
[09:34] <Hobbsee> !dapper
[09:34] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release.
[09:34] <Hobbsee> ah
[09:34] <derrickw> ompaul - what does "this one ain't no duck" mean?
[09:35] <ompaul> derrickw, there is more than one meaning for drake
[09:35] <polpak> derrickw, Some kinds of ducks are called "Drakes"
[09:35] <ulaas> ompaul, btw is it clear that it is a duck now?
[09:35] <derrickw> ompaul - yeah, i assumed they weren't referring to the duck
[09:35] <crimsun> no, it's ambiguous what it is.
[09:35] <crimsun> (intentionally ambiguous)
[09:35] <ompaul> hint Mark Shuttleworth has a dragon on his business card
[09:35] <aftertaf> online definitions url please ;)
[09:36] <aftertaf> kde :)
[09:36] <ulaas> it is a duck!
[09:36] <crimsun> sabdfl uses kubuntu, that's why.
[09:36] <ulaas> :)
[09:36] <crimsun> it has no bearing whether it's a duck or a dragon
[09:36] <aftertaf> sabdfl?
[09:36] <aftertaf> its a parrot.
[09:36] <crimsun> self-appointed dictator for life
[09:36] <crimsun> +benevolent
[09:37] <ulaas> oh shuttleworth himself..
[09:37] <derrickw> crimsun - i kind of hope they're referring to the dragon; that would make the title far more ironic. in fact, if they mean a duck, it's not very ironic at all. when is a duck not dapper?
[09:38] <crimsun> derrickw: the point is: Does it even matter at this stage? No. :-)
[09:38] <agtnz> Whats a terminal app that can do transparency - and by transparency I mean the windows behind the terminal, not just the wallpaper.
[09:38] <derrickw> crimsun - then what are we going to argue needlessly about?
[09:38] <ompaul> crimsun, come on, will it ever matter? ;-)
[09:39] <crimsun> derrickw: I'm sure there's an editor war somewhere waiting to be unleashed...
[09:39] <crimsun> ompaul: of course not ;-)
[09:39] <ompaul> !start an editor war
[09:39] <ubotu> gedit is better than xemacs
[09:39] <ulaas> vim rules
[09:39] <cafuego> !literla start an editor war
[09:39] <ubotu> cafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:39] <cafuego> oops
[09:39] <cafuego> !literal start an editor war
[09:39] <ubotu> start an editor war is <reply> (vim|nano|kate|kwrite|ed|jed|joe|notepad|gvim|gedit) is better than (emacs|xemacs)
[09:39] <crimsun> hah

[09:40] <derrickw> i want to make a career of naming ubuntu releases
[09:40] <derrickw> best career ever
[09:40] <derrickw> any career where i can alliterate the names of animals is a career i want to have
[09:41] <cafuego> pay's a bit crap, though.
[09:41] <ompaul> derrickw, you can do it but will anyone listen I managed the whole alphabet albeit a struggle and I had to use more than one creature from the world of myths
[09:41] <bibe> hi all. Is there a way to configure the network using a GUI in a default Breezy installation? I don't have Ubuntu at the moment, it's just a friend that's asking via jabber
[09:41] <aftertaf> yep its possible
[09:42] <aftertaf> in gui or in console.
[09:42] <derrickw> i think it would have been pretty cool if they had gone in alphabetical order
[09:42] <derrickw> but that's a lot of trouble
[09:42] <ompaul> bibe,  gui system - administration - networking
[09:42] <derrickw> and there's probably someone right now wishing that they had thought of that sooner
[09:43] <bibe> ompaul : and from there can he modify /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:43] <cafuego> bibe: Yes. Also 'sudo etherconf' in a console.
[09:43] <bibe> cafuego : is etherconf a GUI?
[09:43] <cafuego> bibe: Yep.
[09:43] <cafuego> bibe: It's an ncurses based gui
[09:44] <bibe> cafuego : thanks a lot
[09:44] <cafuego> Then again, if people refuse to use software 'coz it has no clicky windows' they need to be neutered.
[09:44] <polpak> bibe, or if you are in gnome theres an easy way too via gui.. Applications->system tools->network tools
[09:44] <henk> what is the 'best' way to go from ubuntu to kubuntu ? is there more to it than apt-get kde ?
[09:45] <aftertaf> derrickw: theyd have been tired by the end of it, imagine the PR for Zonkedout Zebra ?
[09:45] <ompaul> henk, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <aftertaf> henk: kubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <aftertaf> and apt-get remove gnome ;) hehe
[09:45] <icewt> henk: the _best_ way would be to do a clean install of kubuntu
[09:45] <aftertaf> icewt: overkill method
[09:46] <icewt> aftertaf: not if you're going to dump gnome
[09:46] <polpak> icewt, it's not nessicaraly the best way.. but it is certainly the method least likely to cause issues for the average user
[09:47] <icewt> polpak: yeah
[09:47] <derrickw> icewt - i installed kubuntu after i installed ubuntu and i havn't had any problems with it, except for some reason when i restarted the x server while i was trying to set up my nvidia drivers, it kept booting to GNOME instead of KDE
[09:48] <henk> and if i install that will kde be default ? how do i select that ?
[09:48] <derrickw> but by then, i already had everything configured and i didn't feel like doing a complete re-installation
[09:48] <aftertaf> derrickw: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:48] <nagual> How do i install X with apt-get?
[09:48] <Steinbeck1> what advantages is there for kde over gnome?
[09:48] <aftertaf> nagual: sudo aptget install xserver-xorg (+ others surely)
[09:48] <bibe> Steinbeck1 : it's all at the user's discretion
[09:49] <aftertaf> Steinbeck1: different window manager, different environment, question of personal taste more than anything else
[09:49] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, user preference :)
[09:49] <derrickw> steinbeck1 - it's really a matter of personal preference. i think kde runs a little smoother and honestly, i think kde looks sharper
[09:49] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[09:49] <ubotu> twm is much better than windowmaker!
[09:50] <polpak> derrickw, well from a programmers perspective, I prefer GTK to QT, so I use gnome
[09:50] <Steinbeck1> anybody know where i can find one of those wickets that holds your icons at the bottom of your screen and whenever you bring your mouse over it..it enlarges...i think its a wicket?
[09:50] <Steinbeck1> i know this is kind of irrelevent...but ive been trying to find it forever
[09:50] <derrickw> steinbeck1 - tell me if you find one for KDE; i wouldn't mind that myself
[09:50] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tel me exact procedure to rsize /usr partition using gparted?
[09:50] <bibe> Steinbeck1 : at this very moment, Ubuntu ships a more polished version of Gnome than of KDE, but KDE is getting closer. By next release I think the two desktop environment will be equivalent
[09:51] <mustard5> onkarshinde, step one would be backup data :)
[09:51] <agtnz> Steinbeck1: I know that as a dock
[09:51] <Steinbeck1> yes gnome is fine
[09:51] <Steinbeck1> yes!
[09:51] <Steinbeck1> a dock!
[09:51] <icewt> derrickw: i don't think it should cause any (big) problems, but if you want to get all the gnome stuff out, clean install may be the easiest for a new user
[09:51] <agtnz> Steinbeck1: I only have used Windows ones though, dunno what Linux ones are called
[09:52] <Steinbeck1> gnome is great...id just like to get that dock and everything would be perfect
[09:52] <derrickw> yeah i would love an aqua style dock for kubuntu
[09:52] <g8m> /p
[09:52] <onkarshinde> mustard5: Ok.   Never got to step two :)
[09:53] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Have you tried gdesklets? May be you will find something useful in it.
[09:53] <shtron> Hi, I have a weird problem in breezy: dhcp doesn't start during boot and I have to run dhclient when I logon. how do I fix that?
[09:54] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, no i havent but ill look it up
[09:54] <Steinbeck1> what is it?
[09:54] <polpak> onkarshinde, It should be easy.. the real trick is the partition cannot be mounted before you do it
[09:55] <aftertaf> looool mustard5
[09:55] <fatehaze> i got the libflac6 .deb package, how do i go about installing it?
[09:55] <mustard5> polpak, liveCD then?
[09:55] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: AFAIK. gDesklets is something similar to dashbord widgets on MAC OS X. There are plenty of them avialable in repos. You can also install additional.
[09:55] <polpak> onkarshinde, once it's unmounted you should just be able to right click the partition and select resize
[09:55] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, are they buggy?
[09:55] <mustard5> aftertaf, :)
[09:55] <agtnz> fatehaze: dpkg -i <nameofpackage>
[09:55] <aftertaf> fatehaze: dpkg -i /path/tp/yourdeb.deb
[09:55] <fatehaze> sweet, thanks
[09:55] <Steinbeck1> im a bit worried theyll crash
[09:55] <onkarshinde> polpak: Ok. But if I unmount it will gparted keep running?
[09:56] <polpak> onkarshinde, depends on what partition you're trying to resize...
[09:56] <mustard5> onkarshinde, you got a liveCD ?
[09:56] <henk> is there a way to get a login-screen that lets me select in what kind of session (kde/gnome) i'd like to start this time ?
[09:56] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Actually gdesklets run in their own environment so even if they crash they won't harm any of your open applications.
[09:56] <aftertaf> shtron: odd.  have you setup your /etc/networking/interfaces to use dhcp?
[09:56] <polpak> onkarshinde, if it's your root partition you're better off getting a live CD, and booting with that
[09:56] <aftertaf> shtron: look in /etc/init.d/ for a dhcp startup script
[09:56] <Steinbeck1> ok yea they look nice
[09:56] <polpak> onkarshinde, then install gparted from the LiveCD and then you can resize stuff
[09:56] <onkarshinde> mustard5: not for breezy
[09:56] <Steinbeck1> ill download it real equick
[09:56] <derrickw> henk - all of them
[09:57] <aftertaf> henk: that you get with gdm or kdm
[09:57] <onkarshinde> polpak: No. My /usr is on different partition.
[09:57] <aftertaf> elive is nice :)
[09:57] <henk> ha it finished installing, going to try it now thank so far
[09:58] <polpak> onkarshinde, If it's not a "data" partition, I'd just recommend booting from a liveCD and installing gparted into the Live CD environment
[09:58] <derrickw> i wish amarok ripped cds. it would be the perfect audio player.
[09:58] <derrickw> actually i think it does
[09:58] <mustard5> onkarshinde, I would think that gparted lives in /usr though wouldnt it?
[09:58] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: I just discovered gdesklets yesterday and I liked them very much. You can keep running more than one on your desktop in a floating layer. You press Shift+F12 and they come forward of all apps.
[09:58] <polpak> onkarshinde, much safer
[09:59] <shtron> aftertaf, I don't have any dhcp startup scripts on init.d and I don't know how to set interfaces to use dhcp.
[09:59] <sazwerx> hi all.. i'm planning to reinstall my ubuntu, i do have my GPG key right now.. how to use my key again in the fresh install system? i mean i dont want to regenerate it again.. how?
[09:59] <derrickw> onkarshinde - once i download gdesklets, how do i turn them on?
[09:59] <shtron> aftertaf, This is the last line of my interfaces file: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:59] <onkarshinde> mustard5: Yes, gparted is in /usr. I thought once i run it it will be loaded in memory and won't access /usr anymore
[09:59] <derrickw> onkarshinde - assuming i install with synaptic
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, im sorry im pretty new to linux
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> can you help me out with installing it
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> i have it downloaded
[10:00] <onkarshinde> derrickw: there will be a entry in Applications->Accessories
[10:00] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Instead of download use synaptic
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> ok will do
[10:01] <JadussD> hey, could someone tell me if doing "apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all" in ubuntu is very bad idea or not?
[10:01] <derrickw> onkarshinde - haha i assume it doesn't work for KDE then?
[10:01] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I think there is good thread on that in customisation tip and tricks in the ubuntuforums.org
[10:01] <onkarshinde> derrickw: I don't know. You can try. Need to install two packages. gdesklets and gdesklets-data
[10:01] <shuveb> can someone please tell me which package contains rpcgen?
[10:01] <derrickw> onkarshinde - oh yeah, in KDE it shows up under utilities
[10:02] <onkarshinde> JadussD: And why do you think it will be bad idea?
[10:02] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks onkarshinde, mustard5
[10:02] <shtron> aftertaf, Will "echo dhclient >> /etc/init.d/networking" do the trick?
[10:02] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=gdesklets
[10:02] <polpak> JadussD, I like the SDL libs...
[10:03] <polpak> JadussD, Why would it be a bad idea?
[10:03] <JadussD> i meant, if they were meant for debian...even if ubuntu is based on debian, oh who am i kidding, i'm  paranoid linux newbie :P
[10:05] <polpak> JadussD, if it's in the repositories it's probably pretty safe
[10:05] <shuveb> how do i find out to which package a file belongs to? even if that package is not installed yet
[10:06] <JadussD> alright thanks
[10:06] <shtron> I can't compile on breezy... I installed gcc, g++ and make but I can't even compile a simple hello world program...
[10:06] <polpak> shtron, what are you typing, and what errors do you get
[10:06] <mustard5> shuveb, packages.ubuntu.com has a search for packages by filename function
[10:06] <shuveb> mustard5, ok
[10:08] <mustard5> shtron, you have build-essential installed?
[10:09] <shtron> mustard5, not sure...
[10:09] <mustard5> shtron, seems you do from your question...might be good to confirm
[10:09] <onkarshinde> shtron: what error does it give?
[10:09] <mustard5> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:09] <shtron> I tried a simple hello world and it didn't find stdio.h
[10:10] <polpak> shtron, should be /usr/include/stdio.h
[10:11] <polpak> what did your hellow world program look like?
[10:11] <polpak> err hello world rather
[10:11] <shtron> it's not there... just a sec..
[10:11] <Seveas> shtron, install the build-essential package
[10:12] <Seveas> you miss all libc headers
[10:12] <shtron> #include <stdio.h> \n int main()\n { printf("Hello world\n"); return 0; }
[10:12] <snadge> how can i leave a dist-upgrade download unattended without it giving up too easy if connection is lost etc? :)
[10:12] <henk> hmm kde does not respond to the media keys on my keyboard, i have this soundvolumewheel that used to work very neatly in gnome by displaying a little window with the volume in a bar. How do i get this stuff on kde ? I use that a lot
[10:12] <snadge> i've had to leave it overnight about 3 times, and i've only got 150mb :/
[10:13] <Seveas> snadge, then fix your connection...\
[10:13] <polpak> Seveas, I don't have build-essentials installed, but I have stdio.h
[10:13] <shtron> ok installing..
[10:13] <shtron> anything else i need?
[10:13] <polpak> shtron, I don't think that's the issue
[10:13] <Seveas> polpak, then you have libc6-deb
[10:13] <Seveas> dev*
[10:13] <Seveas> shtron, no
[10:13] <Seveas> not for a hello world program
[10:13] <snadge> Seveas, well once it was caused by a power outage
[10:14] <Seveas> snadge, how are you going to expect that apt recovers from that?
[10:14] <polpak> Seveas, yes.. If I'm going to develop C programs I'd need libc6-deb
[10:14] <snadge> is there an apt -ifitstuffsupkeeptrying option? ;)
[10:14] <polpak> err dev
[10:14] <Seveas> snadge, yes, you can make a cronjob that does apt-get -d dist-upgrade every hour
[10:14] <shtron> ok, Hello world works. now, for kernel config (with make xconfig) and compile what do i need?
[10:14] <Seveas> (-d means download only)
[10:15] <snadge> nice
[10:15] <Seveas> apt-get -d --force-yes dist-upgrade even
[10:15] <Seveas> shtron, don't do that
[10:15] <shtron> do what?
[10:15] <Seveas> use the ubuntu way of compiling a kernel (search the wiki on kernel to find instructions)
[10:15] <Seveas> do NOT use random configs/sources
[10:16] <shtron> but I have homework. I need to do that...
[10:16] <snadge> Seveas, wheres the fun in that? ;)
[10:16] <Seveas> and if you don't have a special need to compile your own kernel -- don't do it
[10:16] <snadge> shtron, just read the god damned wiki and do ur homework punk
[10:16] <Seveas> it's so '99/gentoo to compile your own kernel
[10:16] <Seveas> snadge, watch your language!
[10:17] <Steinbeck1> everytime i try to run a gdesklet it tells me a sensor can not be found
[10:17] <snadge> some people just like to whinge though.. then ask for advice, and do the wrong thing
[10:17] <snadge> and sometimes they just need to be told ;)
[10:17] <Seveas> boo!
[10:18] <rel> Hey guys, I have a mac G4 Powerbook that I just installed Ubuntu on (duel booting with OSX) and I can't get it connected to the internet through my wireless connection. My wireless card doesn't even show up in the list of ways to connect...
[10:18] <mahangu__> snadge, there is a way to tell them
[10:18] <glick> scuse me where can i download ubuntu server 5.10?
[10:19] <Seveas> glick, releases.ubuntu.com / cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <grace_> yeah i got dvdcss on the go
[10:19] <avrine> i want to establish vpn connection! what pakage must be install???
[10:19] <Seveas> !vpn
[10:19] <ubotu> Seveas: What?
[10:19] <Seveas> !kill
[10:19] <mahangu__> rel, what is your wireless chipset
[10:19] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Seveas
[10:19] <avrine> yes
[10:19] <Seveas> avrine, openswan and freeswan seem popular
[10:19] <grace_> but when I open xine I still get red for win32codecs and dvd drive
[10:19] <mahangu__> ubotu, tell rel -about wireless
[10:20] <avrine> Seveas: thanks
[10:20] <Seveas> !-repos
[10:20] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:20] <grace_> cant i get win32 codec with apt-get
[10:20] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[10:20] <mustard5> glick http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[10:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[10:20] <snadge> rel: do you know what kind of wireless card it is? and possibly the driver that supports it?  have you determined if ubuntu has support for that driver loaded?
[10:21] <grace_> how can I add that to repositories
[10:21] <grace_> !repos
[10:21] <ubotu> I heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:21] <mustard5> glick, server install is available on the normal install CD
[10:21] <rel> mahangy_, my mac has an airport extreme card in it
[10:21] <Seveas> !no w32codecs are binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:21] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:21] <mahangu__> rel, did you read what ubuntu gave you?
[10:21] <rel> mahangu_, I'm reading it right now
[10:21] <avrine> i downloading openswan Seveas now
[10:21] <snadge> rel: airport is a proprietry mac only hardware.. as far as i know, there isnt a free driver available
[10:22] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, I have it installed but everytime i try to run a gdisklet it tells me it cant find a sensor
[10:22] <Steinbeck1> any ideas?
[10:22] <mustard5> I think I am going to have one of those nights were everything I say is the wrong answer :)
[10:22] <mahangu__> mustard5, heh
[10:22] <mustard5> I might stay quiet ;)
[10:22] <Drgb> help
[10:23] <Seveas> rel, airport extreme == broadcom chip == no linux driver == useless
[10:23] <mustard5> Drgb, feel free to elaborate ;)
[10:23] <Drgb> mustard5, lol
[10:23] <rel> serveas, crappp :(
[10:23] <mahangu> Seveas, I like your logic
[10:23] <avrine> Seveas: i want to create vpn connection only
[10:23] <mahangu> rel, call your local Apple Store and ask them why they dont release a linux driver
[10:23] <mahangu> im kidding btw
[10:23] <Drgb> thought i was in status window, sry, however i need some help about adding users from command line
[10:24] <snadge> hes not kidding.. do it, and if you can, record the phone conversation
[10:24] <rel> :'(
[10:24] <snadge> ;)
[10:24] <Drgb> i need to create an user, then give him permissions to login to a  gnome session
[10:24] <Drgb> can you explain me how to?
[10:24] <ZzeCoOl> Hello do u guys know any good downlaod manager like Getright  for linux?
[10:24] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, wget
[10:24] <rel> I'll get a certain internet celebrity that I know to do it, he gets things done.
[10:25] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, actually axel
[10:25] <zzyber> can someone help me get vmware printing going in ubuntu? I have ubuntu as host and xp pro as guest and i dont hav a /dev/parport0 and vmware says that the /dev/lp0 is depriciated?
[10:25] <mahangu> rel, and who is that?
[10:25] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, apt-get install axel
[10:25] <mahangu> it's command line , but lovely
[10:25] <ZzeCoOl> mahangu: wget isnt a doanload manager
[10:25] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[10:25] <ZzeCoOl> ill try axel
[10:25] <rel> mahangu, phil zimmermann, he will stay on the phone for hours and he never gives up
[10:26] <mustard5> Drgb, I know you use the adduser command....thats a start
[10:26] <Drgb> i need to create an user, then give him permissions to login to a  gnome session         <----------------------------->sry for quoting myself but i think no one read this :D
[10:26] <Drgb> mustard5, yes i used it
[10:26] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, im sorry, bt to me it is
[10:26] <Drgb> but i can't go to "step 2"
[10:26] <avrine> Zzyber : can you tell you wmware version?
[10:26] <Drgb> i have to give him permission to start a gnome session
[10:26] <zzyber> avrine, i have 5.0.0 build 13124
[10:27] <snadge> yes, phil zimmerman should ring up apple and ask them why they dont release a linux version of airport driver.. then record it, and post the story to slashdot ;)
[10:27] <ZzeCoOl> mahangu:  i need something like getright not a console thing
[10:27] <rel> snadge, I'll get my dad to call him right now ;)
[10:27] <mustard5> Drgb, I take it you don't have gnome or a gui?
[10:28] <mustard5> Drgb, I'm curious why you wouldnt have used the System>>Admin>>Users and groups
[10:28] <Drgb> i do have gnome
[10:28] <Drgb> but i installed my os "manually"
[10:28] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, ok, but you can't say wget is not a download manager, it very much is
[10:28] <Drgb> so i haven't the user management tool
[10:28] <mustard5> Drgb, aha!
[10:28] <Drgb> for gnome
[10:28] <zzyber> lsmod
[10:28] <mustard5> Drgb, now its making sense to me :_)
[10:29] <topyli> rel: while you're at it. call sun and ask for ppc java :)
[10:29] <rel> topyli, I'll ad that to my list ;)
[10:29] <mustard5> Drgb, so what is stopping the user from logging in after you create them?  (this is all new to me too)
[10:30] <Drgb> i just can't log into gnome
[10:30] <Drgb> i can log from terminal
[10:30] <henk> where do i tell kde wich type of file to open with what program ?
[10:31] <joda> System -> preferences-> prefered applications, I think
[10:31] <shtron> OK, I read the wiki, it instructs to use apt-get to get the kernel sources and linux-tree. 1. The sources doesn't contain the version i need. 2. what's linux-tree and what's it for?
[10:31] <mustard5> Drgb, reading the manual it says it takes the settings from /etc/adduser.conf  do you have one?
[10:31] <joda> hmm, sorry -  that's just for mail, web and konsole
[10:32] <Drgb> let me take a look
[10:32] <Drgb> ok
[10:32] <Drgb> i got adduser.conf
[10:33] <shtron> Can I download the sources version and apply a patch from www.kernel.org?
[10:33] <joda> I'm trying to compile a program, and I get an Error - when I search for that error on google, I find a comment from one of the developers saying that the problem is probably because I'm using GCC4 and not GC3.4 - how can I change so that I use an older version of GCC for a single compile?
[10:35] <bimberi> joda: install gcc-3.4 and type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" in the shell before executing ./configure
[10:36] <mustard5> Drgb does it look like this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4559
[10:36] <joda> Bimberi: I'll try that - thanks
[10:37] <bimberi> joda: np :)
[10:37] <darkness> Hi all, i'm looking to download the java ( I forgot the right word... I hate it when this happens. ) but i don't know which one to download and then how to install it./
[10:37] <darkness> Could someone please help me?
[10:38] <Astxist_> I like to use apt-cache search <package name>
[10:38] <Astxist_> that way you can find it wasy
[10:38] <mustard5> !java
[10:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:38] <Astxist_> "apt-cache search java" for example
[10:38] <mustard5> darkness, where are you downloading from?
[10:38] <darkness> The java website.
[10:39] <joda> Bimberi: looks like it worked beautifully - thanks alot :)
[10:39] <mahangu> Astxist_, the java package isnt in the repos
[10:39] <mahangu> darkness, use the javadebs
[10:39] <mustard5> !javadebs
[10:39] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[10:39] <Drgb> mustard5, i think it's exactly the same stuff
[10:39] <mahangu> !javadebs
[10:39] <Drgb> i just haven't still read it
[10:39] <Drgb> :D
[10:39] <bimberi> joda: phew :) great!
[10:39] <mustard5> Drgb, I'm looking through my gui for user and groups to see what groups I belong to
[10:39] <darkness> mahangu: Where do i get javadebs from?
[10:39] <mustard5> darkness, use the javadeb links above and get the jre1.5
[10:40] <Astxist_> heh
[10:40] <mahangu> darkness, the links above
[10:40] <darkness> the tinyurl one?
[10:40] <mustard5> darkness yep the one that matches your version of ubuntu
[10:41] <Astxist_> I added some extra sources to my source.list so it's in there for me :)
[10:41] <darkness> I have ubuntu 5.04 which i think is hoary...
[10:41] <icewt> those javadeb links don't work
[10:41] <mustard5> darkness, then the first link with (Hoary) after it
[10:41] <mahangu> mustard5, thats correct
[10:41] <mahangu> those links give 404s
[10:42] <mahangu> Seveas, ping
[10:42] <darkness> Yeah, i just got that.
[10:42] <mustard5> darkness, you might need to read the section on installing java from here then
[10:42] <mustard5> !java
[10:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:42] <ekimus> hi, could someone tell me how to get line numbers in latex, inside a verbatim environment?
[10:43] <Drgb> mustard5, maybe i can't login with gnome because i was using the "useradd" command instead of "adduser"
[10:43] <pitti> ekimus: you probably want 'listings', not 'verbatim' for that
[10:43] <mustard5> Drgb, heh..that could be it :)
[10:43] <darkness> HEy, i think i have found what i am looking for.
[10:43] <Drgb> i try the other one now then tell you the "response"
[10:43] <darkness> I have downloaded the right file and i am now just reading how to install it
[10:43] <mustard5> Drgb, k
[10:44] <mustard5> darkness, I think the main thing is you DON'T get the jre package with netbeans
[10:44] <ekimus> pitti: moreverb package?
[10:44] <Seveas> mahangu, pong
[10:44] <Corin> can someone please tell me the ubuntu page with all the basic commands?
[10:45] <bimberi> !cli
[10:45] <mustard5> !cli
[10:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[10:45] <Corin> i think ubotu knows, but i cant remember what to say to him..
[10:45] <Corin> thanks
[10:45] <Corin> thats the one
[10:45] <Corin> :D
[10:45] <pitti> ekimus: I use 'listings' for program listings, but moreverb sounds promising (I don't know it, though)
[10:45] <ekimus> pitti: \begin{listings} (any vital options there?)
[10:45] <kestas> guys can I trust packages from cipherfunk.org?
[10:46] <kestas> is there anywhere I can get w32codecs from which I can trust?
[10:46] <mustard5> !w32codecs
[10:46] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:46] <Astxist_> I know of a spot
[10:46] <Seveas> kestas, marillat and cipherfunk are good
[10:46] <Astxist_> heh
[10:46] <SCMark> where are smb mounts mounted in the filesystem?
[10:47] <Seveas> SCMark, depends on where you mount them ;)
[10:47] <Seveas> if you go to smb:// urls with nautilus: there aren't mounted
[10:47] <SCMark> what if I mount them by going to places->network server->clicky clicky to my mount
[10:48] <Seveas> that's not mounting :)
[10:48] <SCMark> ah
[10:48] <kestas> Seveas, hmm how handy :) but which repo is w32 in?
[10:48] <Seveas> both
[10:48] <Seveas> (cipherfunk and marillat)
[10:49] <kestas> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ cant I get it from there?
[10:49] <Seveas> sure
[10:49] <Seveas> breezy-extras
[10:49] <kestas> k, and what's the ftp location?
[10:49] <Seveas> no ftp
[10:49] <Drgb>  c ya l83
[10:49] <kestas> http?
[10:49] <Seveas> yeah
[10:49] <Astxist_> heh
[10:49] <SCMark> So when I try to play a video on a smb mount, the video keeps having to buffer... should I mount the samba filesystem and buffer the video using an mplayer option or is there an easier way?
[10:49] <Astxist_> I think I found a bug with Network Settings
[10:50] <Astxist_> if you put a number with a * in it
[10:50] <shtron> Can i install linux-source package and apply a www.kernel.org patch on it (after extracting) ?
[10:50] <Astxist_> we use *44 to disable call waiting here
[10:50] <Astxist_> it'll make the number not appear in the config
[10:50] <Astxist_> and you have to manually edit the chatscript to fix it
[10:50] <grace_> well where can I get win32codecs for amd64
[10:50] <Seveas> Astxist_, bugs -> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <Seveas> grace_, w*32*codecs
[10:51] <Astxist_> k I'll give it a look
[10:51] <Astxist_> heh and I only started using ubuntu yesterday :)
[10:51] <Astxist_> and linux for that matter
[10:51] <jestarius> anyone managed to get transparent borderless terminals in 64bit?
[10:52] <jestarius> using gnome
[10:52] <darkness> Grrr, what it said in the restricked formats link didn't work...
[10:52] <darkness> I -from what i can see- have done everything like it says
[10:52] <grace_> no packages
[10:52] <Astxist_> lol
[10:52] <Astxist_> I wonder how I'm going to do a search for this
[10:53] <Astxist_> * gets treated differently :)
[10:53] <Astxist_> guess asterix
[10:53] <Drgb> mustard5, it says "system administrator disabled your accunt"....ghghgh
[10:53] <Drgb> *account
[10:53] <grace_> when I reload after adding the ^^noted respository it complains that it cant find amd64 packages.gz
[10:54] <mustard5> Drgb, hmmm..the manual says that that shouldnt happen by default
[10:54] <darkness> Mustard5: You say DON't get the jre package with netbeans. I don't think i have been trying to get netbeans. I don't want to develop java apps, just use java chats!
[10:54] <mustard5> Drgb, it states you need to explicitly state that
[10:55] <mustard5> darkness, there is a jre package without netbeans
[10:55] <darkness> Yes, how do i get it?
[10:55] <mustard5> Drgb, which leaves me somewhat perplexed at to what to do from here
[10:56] <kestas> shoudl I get the java SDK or RE, I want to be able to use java but Ill want to develop with it sometime in the fututre
[10:56] <rel> Hey I have another problem, I'm duel booting OSX and Ubuntu on my powerbook, and the boot screen that gives me the options of which to boot into defaults to Ubuntu if I don't do anything, but I want it to default to OSX instead, how do I get it to do that?
[10:56] <kestas> can the sdk do both?
[10:56] <Drgb> mustard5, i'm trying "adduser --system --group --uid 1000 --shell drgb"
[10:56] <grace_> !repos
[10:56] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:56] <kestas> rel, what boot loader is this?
[10:56] <mustard5> darkness, you do it following the instructions in the guide a the wiki, if that fails I can only assume 'user error', as it worked for me a few days ago
[10:56] <StDellis> Anyone know of a burning software thats already in ubuntu that lets you burn iso images?
[10:56] <Seveas> kestas, sdk includes re
[10:56] <Drgb> --uid 1000 because it gave me permission error before
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, uid=1000?
[10:57] <kestas> Seveas, k thanks, nice repo
[10:57] <grace_> !easysource
[10:57] <ubotu> easysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, what about sudo at the start then?
[10:57] <Drgb> i'm trying now
[10:57] <Drgb> :D
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, uid=1000 is your account
[10:57] <jestarius> StDellis, using Nautilus right click on the iso and select burn image
[10:57] <rel> kestats, I think its something called Netboot? I'm not sure though, it's whatever installed when I installed Ubuntu, I partitioned 850kb of space for it and it did its little thing
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, do uid=1001
[10:57] <darkness> mustard5: There is one where i need multiverse on it, i have just enabled that and will try it. Hopefully that works. If not, i will just have..I dunno, i'll find away somehow.
[10:57] <Drgb> 1001? ok, i try
[10:59] <Drgb> ok, i try to login now
[10:59] <mustard5> Drgb, good luck
[10:59] <Drgb> :D
[10:59] <Astxist_> does bugzilla.ubuntu.com normally take a long time to do a search?
[10:59] <Drgb> l8r
[11:00] <mustard5> Astxist_, not sure
[11:00] <Astxist_> ok
[11:02] <SCMark> what does unbuntu do when I browse a samba share in nautilus?  If it's not mounting the filesystem then what is it doing?
[11:04] <rel> I'm duel booting OSX and Ubuntu on my Powerbook, and the boot screen that gives me the options of which to boot into defaults to Ubuntu if I don't do anything, but I want it to default to OSX instead, does anyone know how I can get it to do that?
[11:04] <Madpilot> rel: duel booting? is that where the two OSes fight with each other?
[11:04] <h-kan> change the order in grub.conf
[11:04] <Seveas> SCMark, it uses Gnome VFS
[11:04] <iluciv> Could someone please tell me if the PCI bus is serial or parrallel?
[11:05] <rel> madpilot, hehe yes, I hold competitions
[11:05] <SCMark> Seveas: thanks
[11:05] <Seveas> SCMark, there exists a wrapper to really mount gnome vfs urls
[11:05] <Seveas> but for samba it seems to be flaky
[11:07] <Corin> how can i add a user to a certain group, in command-line?
[11:07] <Steinbeck1> i love linux
[11:08] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, :)
[11:08] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, is the desktop looking good?
[11:08] <Steinbeck1> alot better than windows thats forsure
[11:08] <Steinbeck1> you think i should attempt to install atis drivers?
[11:09] <Steinbeck1> or leave it alone
[11:09] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, they just updated some drivers the other day I think
[11:09] <rel> Steinbeck1, everything is a lot better than Windows! ;)
[11:09] <Corin> anyone here?  except you two
[11:09] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, as long as you know how to reconfigure to VESA and know the command to start IRC from terminal ?
[11:10] <Seveas> Corin, sudo adduser username groupname
[11:10] <Steinbeck1> no I dont..but if you tell it to me i can write it down real quick
[11:10] <rel> Does anyone here know how to set the default boot to OSX instead of Ubuntu?
[11:10] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, irssi is the IRC client from terminal :)
[11:10] <Corin> thanks Seveas
[11:10] <Corin> :)
[11:10] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, the new ati drivers are OK
[11:10] <Seveas> the just lose xv after hibernate :(
[11:10] <Steinbeck1> i also have a 64bit processor though
[11:10] <Steinbeck1> that may cause trouble
[11:11] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   will reconfigure
[11:11] <Steinbeck1> ok good
[11:11] <Steinbeck1> ill go download the drivers
[11:11] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, your on a 386 kernel though, so that might make a difference
[11:11] <Steinbeck1> true
[11:13] <Corin> Seveas, this is the first time you've talked to me since you went to Ikea
[11:13] <Corin> :P
[11:14] <rel> Isn't Ikea that brand of dog food?
[11:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> rel lol
[11:16] <SCMark> Seveas: I noticed that playing videos from a mounted filesystem versus the gnome VFS means that the video is not buffering all the time.  Do you know how to use the wrapper or where a wrapper howto is?
[11:23] <Steinbeck1> when i try to run the ati drivers it gives me permission denied even though im root
[11:23] <Steinbeck1> whats up with that?
[11:23] <bungle> sudo
[11:23] <Steinbeck1> tried
[11:23] <bungle> no idea
[11:24] <Steinbeck1> can i download the driver from synaptic?
[11:24] <El_Che> yes
[11:26] <Steinbeck1> cant seem to get it with synapitc
[11:26] <pangz> hhiiiii
[11:26] <Steinbeck1> any ideas why it wont give me permission?
[11:27] <skypa> hi guys, I run a debian unstable/experimental system right now.. I would really like to transform that on-the-fly to an ubuntu system
[11:27] <JayLv99> question: how do I log out as root and log back in as a normal user ?
[11:27] <skypa> is that possible?
[11:27] <JayLv99> on terminal
[11:28] <skypa> just type "exit" and login as a user I'd say :)
[11:28] <Steinbeck1> also when i su and give my password it says authentication failure even though its right
[11:29] <JayLv99> Steinbeck - type sudo passwd
[11:29] <JayLv99> and then type in a new password
[11:29] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Is your user listed in the sudoers file?
[11:29] <Steinbeck1> i have no idea
[11:29] <Steinbeck1> but i can su now
[11:30] <Steinbeck1> let me see if i can run the file
[11:30] <Corin> is putty the best ssh client?
[11:30] <skypa> for windows I'd say yes
[11:30] <mahangu> Corin, you can also do command line ssh
[11:30] <mahangu> oh
[11:30] <Steinbeck1> im root but still dosent give me permission
[11:30] <mahangu> blegh windows
[11:30] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Are you trying to execute a file or something?
[11:30] <Corin> yup, i need to access my linux box from windows sometimes
[11:30] <Steinbeck1> yes ati drivers
[11:30] <Corin> :(
[11:31] <skypa> yeah Corin, putty would be the best choice then :)
[11:31] <ubuntu-newbie> How can i access my linux os from another computer using putty?
[11:31] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Is the file set executable?
[11:31] <Steinbeck1> i dont know
[11:31] <Steinbeck1> how do i check?
[11:31] <bungle> telnet ubuntu-newbie
[11:31] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Do a, "ls -l your_file"
[11:32] <Corin> thanks
[11:32] <Corin> :D
[11:32] <bimberi> ubuntu-newbie: install openssh-server on the linux box, don't use telnet
[11:32] <bungle> yeahthen use ssh
[11:32] <Steinbeck1> -rw-r--r--
[11:32] <bungle> more secure
[11:32] <Steinbeck1> ?
[11:32] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  That's the problem!
[11:33] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Do a, "chmod 755 your_file" and it will be set executable.
[11:33] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Then you should be able to execute it just fine :-)
[11:33] <Corin> yay, im getting a free PC
[11:33] <Corin> :D
[11:34] <Steinbeck1> thanks its running :)
[11:34] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  No prob!
[11:34] <Steinbeck1> ok one more question
[11:35] <Steinbeck1> how do i know the driver is installed..do i need to restart x?
[11:35] <JayLv99> Corin - that's always fun :D
[11:35] <Corin> yup
[11:35] <Steinbeck1> it finished installing..how do i check it?
[11:35] <Melissa83> n00b Question Alert! Just installed the new ATI drivers, but i need to check and make sure the Mesa ones aren't actually being used. What is the command to show the current display driver set?
[11:35] <Corin> 384Mb ram, 400mhz processor
[11:35] <Corin> :P
[11:35] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  At a minimum, you'll have to restart X.  You might also need to verify that the correct driver is specified in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[11:35] <painkiler> hey guys
[11:36] <h-kan> Melissa83: lsmod
[11:36] <painkiler> is it posibile to install ubuntu on a usb hdd
[11:36] <Steinbeck1> how do i restart x?
[11:36] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  You can simply logout and then do a ctrl-alt-backspace to have it restart.
[11:37] <Steinbeck1> ok sorry its my second day using this os
[11:37] <painkiler> i dont have a cd drive to my lappy
[11:37] <painkiler> well i kinda die
[11:37] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Actually, you don't even need to logout.  A ctrl-alt-backspace will close all gui apps, log you out, and restart X.
[11:38] <painkiler> so i want to install the os on the hdd connected usb to another machine
[11:38] <Melissa83> h-kan: if I had to guess, I'd say it's still using the Vesa drivers (I see vgastate vga16fb softcursor vesafb,vga16fb). is there a way to force X to load the drivers specified in the Xorg.conf file?
[11:38] <painkiler> will it work?
[11:38] <Corin> is anyone here good with webmin?
[11:38] <AMDXP> i am having a real time with a breezy install
[11:38] <AMDXP> it keeps freezing at 52%
[11:38] <Steinbeck1> looks like its good to go
[11:38] <Steinbeck1> any programs i can test the card with?
[11:38] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Cool!
[11:39] <rel_> Does anyone know how to set the default OS to boot into on a dual boot system? (OSX and Breezy)
[11:39] <Steinbeck1> yea i figured it would be more difficultl
[11:39] <h-kan> Melissa83: insmod or modprobe on the driver you wanna use than restart X
[11:39] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Well, even though it's not a benchmark tester, you can use glxgears as a relative measurement.  However, unless you took a measurement before (for comparison) it won't do you much good :-)
[11:40] <Melissa83> h-kan: so hypothetically the following command "sudo insmod fglrx" should work?
[11:40] <Steinbeck1> what is it supposed to do?
[11:40] <bimberi> AMDXP: that might be a bad cd, or a cd burnt from a bad iso
[11:40] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  I'm assuming you are on a Breezy system?
[11:40] <Steinbeck1> all i see is gears moving
[11:40] <Steinbeck1> yes
[11:40] <bimberi> ubotu tell amdxp about verify
[11:40] <h-kan> Melissa83: ye if the driver exists
[11:41] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  One sec... you need to provide a switch...
[11:41] <painkiler> or how do i set up my usb hdd to install from it
[11:41] <Melissa83> h-kan: hehee, think it's a good time to back-up my xorg.conf! LOL
[11:41] <Drgb> hi everyone, i created a new user but i can't log with a gnome session, i saw the debug file and it said that i didn't have permission to write in some folder....can you help me?
[11:41] <Steinbeck1> switch?
[11:42] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Ok.  Type this, "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" *exactly* as I have here and it will print out the frames/sec to stdout.
[11:42] <Melissa83> ooo i think i see the problem
[11:42] <Melissa83> fglrx "no such file or directory"
[11:42] <AMDXP> i have tried several CDs
[11:42] <Melissa83> i'm guessing i'm needing a link here
[11:42] <Melissa83> hmmmmm
[11:42] <Corin> anyone here good with webmin?
[11:42] <h-kan> Melissa83: sudo modprobe fglrx
[11:43] <bimberi> AMDXP: from the same iso?
[11:43] <Steinbeck1> 700 fps in 5 secs good?
[11:43] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Any luck?  It should give you a 5-second average.
[11:43] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Ok.
[11:43] <Drgb> hi everyone, i created a new user but i can't log with a gnome session, i saw the debug file and it said that i didn't have permission to write in some folder....can you help me?          <----------------------------->     sry for quoting myself but i think no one read this stuff :D
[11:43] <Steinbeck1> 750 now
[11:44] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  That's not awesome but ok.  As I said, it's a relative measurement.
[11:44] <Steinbeck1> well i have an x800
[11:44] <Corin> what versions of phpmyadmin can be used to work with apache2?
[11:44] <Melissa83> Drgb: Does that user have access to it's /home folder?
[11:44] <Steinbeck1> hmm
[11:45] <Drgb> Melissa83, i don't know, how to see it? and how to give him access?
[11:45] <Steinbeck1> maybe i should download a game demo and check it out?
[11:45] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  I'm not up on all the current video card technology.  Is that a recent card?
[11:45] <Steinbeck1> yea about a before x1800 which just came out
[11:46] <Mabus06> Can I change the folder apache2 starts in (/var/www) to something else?
[11:46] <Steinbeck1> so a generation ago
[11:46] <StevenK> Mabus06: Certainly. Edit the /etc/apache2/sites-availble/default
[11:47] <StevenK> Mabus06: Or, create a new file in /etc/apache2/sites-availble, link it into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and remove /etc/apache2/sites-enabled.
[11:47] <StevenK> Mabus06: Does that make sense?
[11:47] <Drgb> p.s.: how to login with a different user in a terminal?
[11:47] <Corin> people, phpmyadmin help please
[11:47] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Hmm.  I would have expected it to do better then.  Oh well.  Again, not a very good test...
[11:47] <Mabus06> StevenK, when I have no index.html, it has like an ftp thing. How do I keep that and also have a webpage by default I can link to the ftp with?
[11:48] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Anyway, good luck with it.
[11:48] <Melissa83> yay! Now i have to specify busIDs
[11:48] <Melissa83> joy
[11:48] <Astxist> heh
[11:48] <StevenK> Mabus06: It's a directory listing, um, you can keep the directory listing and put text in a default file. I'm not so sure, actually. :-)
[11:48] <Steinbeck1> k thank you
[11:48] <Corin> anyone, help with phpmyadmin please
[11:49] <Niomi> corin: hi!
[11:49] <Corin> hi Niomi
[11:49] <Corin> ive installed apache2, mysql, php, phpmyadmin.....
[11:49] <Corin> but phpmyadmin isnt working
[11:50] <bimberi> Drgb: sudo su - <user>
[11:50] <Niomi> Corin: I don't know a lot about it, but maybe I can help.. can you be more specific about not working?
[11:50] <Corin> i can show you:
[11:50] <h-kan> Corin: have you configure apache with php
[11:50] <Mabus06> StevenK, could I maybe have like, a folder with all of my html as the default, and then somehow link to that directory listing from the other folder?
[11:50] <Corin> can i pm you?
[11:50] <Niomi> Corin: sure :)
[11:51] <Corin> no....
[11:51] <Corin> not sure how...
[11:51] <StevenK> Mabus06: Sure.
[11:51] <Mabus06> StevenK, how?
[11:51] <Niomi> Corin: /msg Niomi blahblahblah
[11:51] <Corin> i meant "do you mind", not "how" lol
[11:51] <Corin> i take it you dont mind though
[11:51] <Corin> :P
[11:52] <Niomi> Corin: ooh, not at all, sorry :P
[11:52] <Corin> np
[11:52] <Corin> lol
[11:52] <Corin> u got that i take it?
[11:52] <Corin> :P
[11:53] <blueblood> Any way that you can speed up VNC? Im on 100Mbit to my server, and it's reaaal choppy =/
[11:53] <Niomi> no, i haven't gotton a PM from you. are you regestered with the Nick ID thing?
[11:53] <Corin> Ohmer, yeah, thats it
[11:54] <Corin> how can i reset my password on irc?
[11:54] <StevenK> Mabus06: Um. Honestly, I'm not actually sure. Give me a few minutes, while I read docs.
[11:54] <Niomi> blueblood: close any programs that may be eating up your resources, other than that i've found that the VNC viewer that comes with ubuntu isn't too great. see if you can find another one.
[11:54] <Corin> Niomi, #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <Corin> :P
[11:55] <Seveas> blueblood, use freeNX
[11:56] <Seveas> vnc is history, NX is future ;)
[11:56] <deeler> i like to modify the gdm wallpaper, where is it located ?
[11:56] <StevenK> Mabus06: Okay, there are few ways to do this.
[11:57] <Mabus06> StevenK, the easiest would be if I could create several directories I could have listings to.
[11:57] <Mabus06> links to, I mean.
[11:58] <coax> does enyone know a gnome equal to kruler (an app to mesaure screen elements in pixel)
[11:58] <StevenK> I'd suggest you create a /var/www/index.html, and then make a /var/www/download (or whatever) directory, containing a .htaccess file. The .htaccess file should say "FancyIndexing yes" and then that *should* have a listing and then include the index.html file.
[11:58] <Drgb> i can't login with my new user......please.....can someone help me?
[11:59] <Drgb> when i use "sudo su - drgb"
[11:59] <blah> can someone tell me how to remove the graphical login to ubunut. i want it to login to the thing that looks like dos (whatever you call that). I want it so it DOES NOT load gnome or anything graphical by default.
[11:59] <StevenK> Mabus06: But, I'm not sure. The easiest way to deal with Apache2 is to play around and see what works. The documentation is available on http://httpd.apache.org, and you want the docs for 2.0
[11:59] <Mabus06> StevenK, include the index.html file? What do you mean?
[11:59] <Drgb> it asks me for a password, i type the password but it says "try again"
[11:59] <coax> Drgb, try setting the password again...
[11:59] <Drgb> i changed the password almost hundred times
[12:00] <StevenK> Mabus06: Okay, so the web page should have a directory listing, and then have the index.html file below the listing.
[12:00] <Drgb> but i had the same result
[12:00] <Drgb> i am desperate.....
[12:00] <coax> Drgb, hmm... try to see if the user have a valid login shell in /etc/passwd
[12:01] <Mabus06> StevenK, below the listing? Do you mean just create a blank index.html file in the /var/www/download folder?
[12:02] <Drgb> coax, it has /home/drgb/bin/bash
[12:02] <Drgb> but
[12:02] <Drgb> it doesn't exist
[12:02] <blah> can someone tell me how to remove the graphical login to ubunut. i want it to login to the thing that looks like dos (whatever you call that). I want it so it DOES NOT load gnome or anything graphical by default.
[12:02] <Drgb> O_O?
[12:02] <StevenK> Mabus06: Well, you don't need an index.html ...
[12:02] <coax> Drgb, set it to a valid one, fx. /bin/bash
[12:02] <Mabus06> StevenK, I didn't think so, but what were you talking about?
[12:03] <StevenK> Mabus06: Okay - the only reason I mention it is because you mentioned having a webpage and a listing on the same page ...
[12:04] <Drgb> coax, i'm trying to write it but i can't, how to run a text editor with root permissions?
[12:05] <coax> Drgb, open a terminal and write sudo in front of the command you need to run.
[12:05] <Drgb> anything happened....
[12:06] <rob_p> Drgb:  How did you create the new user account?
[12:06] <Drgb> adduser drgb
[12:06] <deeler> i like to modify the gdm wallpaper, where is it located ?
[12:06] <Drgb> coax, i tried sudo abiword but nothing happened
[12:07] <coax> it might be a good idea to use a non-grapical app to edit it with... fx. nano
[12:07] <coax> sudo nano /etc/passwd
[12:09] <coax> Drgb, by the way, the commands in the bottom of nano are used with [ctrl] +* fx. quit = [ctrl] +[X]
[12:10] <Drgb> yes, i already edited the file
[12:10] <Drgb> now i'm trying to login...
[12:13] <brenner> deeler: gdm themes
[12:13] <brenner> deeler: sys > admin > login screen > themed greeter tab
[12:13] <Drgb> i logged into terminal
[12:14] <Drgb> now i try to login to gnome
[12:14] <Drgb> see you l8r
[12:15] <brenner> deeler: here's my current favourite: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=25716
[12:15] <Drgb> ok, i found what the real proble is
[12:15] <Drgb> *problem
[12:15] <Drgb> i can't write in my "home" folder
[12:15] <brenner> deeler: you can also edit the "splashscreen" (the picture you see after you login) using gtweakui
[12:15] <mahangu_> drgp do sudo chown <username> /home/username
[12:15] <Drgb> but.....how to gain permission to write into that bloody folder?
[12:15] <Drgb> uhm...
[12:16] <Drgb> mahangu_, u r a god
[12:17] <Drgb> c ya l8r...(almost 6th time i say this)
[12:19] <oLsson> do someone have a tip for a good media player that can play mp3's ?
[12:19] <oLsson> and a link for that player ?
[12:20] <dewd> beep media player
[12:20] <StevenK> Amarok, Rhythmbox or XMMS.
[12:20] <Drgb> gnome-settings-daemon has quit unexpectly
[12:20] <StevenK> oLsson: Rhythmbox is installed by default in Ubuntu
[12:20] <Drgb> why????
[12:20] <StevenK> oLsson: Amarok is installed by default in Kubuntu.
[12:20] <brenner> dewd: have you worked out how to get flac support
[12:20] <brenner> ?
[12:20] <Drgb> i logged in but gnome doesn't start now
[12:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> in totem i can hear the sound on wmv files, but not see the audio.  anyone know how to fix tihs?
[12:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> this
[12:22] <rob_p> Drgb:  Why didn't your user have ownership of it's home dir to begin with?  That seems odd.  You might want to verify that your user's home dir (as well as dirs below) are also in  your users group group.
[12:22] <dewd> brenner, do you have an url that I can try that out?
[12:24] <chelu> how can I kill the X?
[12:24] <Drgb> rob1, i have no idea about the reason of all this mess.... how to put my home folder in my "users group"???????
[12:24] <brenner> dewd: er no, not really....sound juicer can rip in flac format though, and i've ripped some of my CDs using it (it's lossless)
[12:24] <rob_p> chelu:  ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:24] <Drgb> ops, it was rob_p
[12:24] <chelu> oks thx
[12:25] <brenner> BROKEN_LADDER: [1]  w32codecs [2]  what player?
[12:25] <Steinbeck1> How can I restart in a terminal?
[12:25] <Steinbeck1> ive tried logging out and ctrl alt backspace
[12:25] <dewd> brenner, sounds good
[12:25] <rob_p> Drgb:  "sudo chgrp -R drgb /home/drgb" should do it.
[12:25] <Steinbeck1> but it keeps bringing me back to a login screen
[12:25] <brenner> Steinbeck1: sudo reboot,  iirc
[12:26] <chelu> ums, ctrl+alt+backspace only ends the sesion
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> brenner yeah, it's the w32codecs i need
[12:26] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to graphical session.
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i get that?
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> brenner any player
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just reinstalled breezy so i'm kinda lost
[12:26] <Drgb> rob_p, i try to login again...let's hope it'll work
[12:26] <chelu> I need work in console mode, without X
[12:26] <brenner> BROKEN_LADDER: ask ubotu about them
[12:26] <burepe> Apparently fat32 has a 2gb file size limit, if I reformat my drive to ext3 can I write files on it from a windows comp?
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> !w32codecs
[12:26] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:27] <chelu> how can I work in console mode without X plz?
[12:27] <rob_p> chelu:  You can do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal, or you can simply kill gdm and you'll drop to a terminal.
[12:27] <chelu> oks, thx a lot
[12:27] <rob_p> chelu:  To get back to graphical mode, do a ctrl-alt-f7
[12:28] <chelu> ok, thx again rob_p
[12:28] <chelu> cu
[12:28] <rob_p> chelu:  If you simply want to shut down the graphical session,
[12:28] <Drgb> rob_p, same error, gnome-settings-*somethingelse* could not start
[12:28] <rob_p> oops!  too late!
[12:28] <Astxist> does anyone know if bugzilla.ubuntu.com makes your email public?
[12:28] <chicken-man> What do I need to play MPEG videos ?
[12:28] <rob_p> Drgb:  Check your system logs for clues then.
[12:28] <Drgb> where are system logs? :DDD
[12:29] <rob_p> Drgb:  /var/log
[12:29] <Steinbeck1> that didnt work
[12:29] <Steinbeck1> same issu
[12:29] <Steinbeck1> issue*
[12:29] <bruce_> hello
[12:30] <chicken-man> What do I need to play MPEG videos ?
[12:30] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Are you saying that you want the machine to start without loading X by default?
[12:30] <brenner> chicken-man: what player?
[12:30] <smitten> Can anyone tell me how to get the font 'fixed' to show up in fontconfig
[12:30] <chicken-man> brenner: what player should i use ?
[12:30] <brenner> chicken-man: most players come with their own codecs, if you want to use totem, you'll need to get them seperately
[12:30] <Steinbeck1> well just so I can set it to vesa
[12:30] <smitten> I did a 'dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-100dpi' and enabled bitmapped fonts, but fixed looked horrible.
[12:31] <Steinbeck1> because ati's drivers are have messed up the resolutions etc
[12:31] <chicken-man> brenner: so how do I play MPEG's with Totem ?
[12:31] <bruce_> I have a question and don't know how to search in forum or wiki... maybe you can help me... I have installed LAMP and now i want to link the webfiles from my fat32 partition to the /var/www/ without copying them... something like a mountpoint... ;)
[12:31] <burepe> Can windows machines write to ext3 file system?
[12:31] <brenner> chicken-man: sec
[12:31] <bruce_> @burepe i don't think so
[12:31] <Steinbeck1> and it seems the ati drivers are broken
[12:31] <Astxist> burepe, not that I know of
[12:31] <brenner> chicken-man: ok, enabled universe and multiverse?
[12:32] <chicken-man> brenner: yep
[12:32] <Corin> how can i kill the mysql process in linux command-line?
[12:32] <Astxist> pskill?
[12:32] <brenner> chicken-man: ok, first install totem-xine
[12:32] <Corin> pskill what?
[12:32] <brenner> chicken-man: most people seem to have trouble with the default gstreamer backend
[12:32] <bruce_> Corin top and then you see wicht nr. ...
[12:32] <Astxist> sorry try kill
[12:32] <Steinbeck1> thats the reason why my glxgears fps was so bad
[12:32] <burepe> I got a fat32 and fat32 can't make files bigger than 2gb what kind of file system can I use for big files that linux and windows can use?
[12:32] <Corin> just "kill mysql" or what?
[12:33] <chicken-man> brenner: ok installing
[12:33] <chelu> what a shit
[12:33] <chelu> I cant kill X
[12:33] <Drgb> rob_p, ok, i got it..........it's a matter of permissions, how to allow user drgb to read and write the most folders?
[12:34] <Astxist> Corin, I just kno the kill cmd I don't know how to list current processes
[12:34] <brenner> chicken-man: then get: gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ... um, and get gstreamer0.8-mad as well, then try an mpeg file
[12:34] <mjr> burepe, you'd probably need to use ext2/ext3 for that, along with appropriate extra drivers or explore2fs for windows
[12:34] <chelu> I can't find gdm in kill -L
[12:34] <chicken-man> brenner: ok
[12:35] <burepe> mjr where can I get thoes drivers?
[12:35] <brenner> chicken-man: you running breezy btw?
[12:35] <doodz> recently installed ubuntu 5.10, i was not prompted when i installed to supply a root password, is this normall ?
[12:35] <Astxist> yeah I had that too
[12:35] <chicken-man> brenner: no hoary (5.04) last time I tryed to upgrade it messed up my system
[12:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> doodz of course
[12:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> doodz you use sudo.
[12:36] <tcpip> anyone installed pppoe drivers for a onboard lan card on a 64bit system?
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man to breezy?
[12:36] <doodz> ooh
[12:36] <Drgb> i got it..........it's a matter of permissions, how to allow user drgb to read and write the most folders?        <--------------> sry for quoting myself
[12:36] <chelu> rob_p, I can't find gdm in the process list
[12:36] <doodz> thanks ladder
[12:36] <brenner> chelu: iirc: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man i had tons of problems with breezy.  i just reinstalled breezy from disc, and now it's all fixed. everything works.
[12:36] <chicken-man> BROKEN_LADDER: Don't have the breezy disk
[12:36] <Astxist> doodz, How do I set/change/enable root user password?
[12:36] <Astxist> sudo passwd root
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> doodz you can create a root password, but it's better not to.
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man download it.
[12:36] <chelu> ok, i'm triying
[12:36] <Astxist> from the help file
[12:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man the ubuntu servers are absurdly fast
[12:37] <chicken-man> BROKEN_LADDER: Download the ISO or use the repositories ?
[12:37] <Drgb> i got it..........it's a matter of permissions, how to allow user drgb to read and write the most folders?        <--------------> sry for quoting myself
[12:37] <doodz> yep i agree, but how can you apt-get without root ?
[12:37] <doodz> hehe
[12:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man did you try upgrading with apt-get and you had problems?  if so then download the iso and install from disc.
[12:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man of course, copy your home directory and such first.
[12:38] <StevenK> doodz: You can set it to be setuid, but I wouldn't.
[12:38] <CookedGryphon> i have 2 related problems, 1 i can mount a wondows shared drive and read  from it, but I can't write to it, the drive is ntfs, would this stop me writign to it? also to mount said disk I have to go into netweorkign and set the domain every single time, it jstu resets to nothing for some reason? can someone tell me how to stop it doing that or else how to set that from the command line...
[12:38] <CookedGryphon> ...because i mount it using a script anyway. sorry about the length
[12:38] <doodz> haha
[12:38] <chicken-man> BROKEN_LADDER: but my CD-RW is broken lol
[12:39] <Drgb> please......don't let me repeat that message again...................
[12:39] <brenner> CookedGryphon: ntfs write support isn't safe iirc
[12:40] <brenner> iirc, there are distros with proprietary drivers for it though that let you write
[12:40] <CookedGryphon> brenner: okay then, but how do i sort the domain problem, at the moment i have to manually go to administration > networking and set the domain name there
[12:40] <CookedGryphon> which is annoying, cos i like things to sort themselves
[12:41] <Rawplayer> re
[12:41] <brenner> CookedGryphon: no idea, but i'm sure someone else does
[12:41] <brenner> s/does/has one
[12:41] <Drgb> how to allow a user to read and write in EVERY folder??????????????
[12:42] <bruce_> sudo nautilus ;)
[12:42] <CookedGryphon> Drgb: are you sure that's wise?
[12:42] <CookedGryphon> Drgb, if you do that u may as well log in as a super user jstu about
[12:43] <brenner> chicken-man: mpeg files work?
[12:43] <Astxist> maybe he means one dir and all it's sub dirs?
[12:43] <Drgb> CookedGryphon, i want to do it because "drgb" user can't access to his start folders
[12:43] <Drgb> i can't use drgb with gnome
[12:43] <Drgb> and log says hundreds of times "permission denied"
[12:44] <brenner> Astxist: no, i have a feeling _every_ folder
[12:44] <Drgb> CookedGryphon, what should i do?????
[12:44] <Astxist> :/
[12:44] <CookedGryphon> go into a terminal
[12:44] <Pjott\WORK> Hi all =)
[12:44] <CookedGryphon> and type "ls -la /home/drgb"
[12:44] <Drgb> i thought i can throw the computer down from the wondow....but i'm at first floor!!!
[12:45] <Drgb> ok, i try
[12:45] <Drgb> it shown me a list of folders
[12:45] <tcpip> hmm
[12:46] <CookedGryphon> actually lol it would be easier to do ls -la /home and ther eshould be a line like "drwx------  79 drgb drgb  4096 2005-11-15 11:32 drgb"
[12:46] <doodz> by defualt gnome is installed, how do i install kde ?
[12:47] <StevenK> doodz: Download Kubuntu
[12:47] <CookedGryphon> the drwx at the start means that drgb can read write and execute files in it, the drgb drgb means drgb owns it
[12:47] <doodz> neat
[12:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what do i need to install to make my system able to hibernate?
[12:47] <chicken-man> brenner: Thanks it works :-D
[12:47] <CookedGryphon> doodz: apt-get install kubuntu-base i think
[12:47] <Drgb> drwxr-xr-x   7 drgb  drgb   336 2005-11-15 12:40 drgb
[12:47] <brenner> chicken-man: np
[12:47] <CookedGryphon> doodz: or it may be kubuntu-desktop i can't remember
[12:47] <Drgb> this is the raw i think
[12:47] <Drgb> it says i got access
[12:47] <Drgb> but
[12:47] <doodz> thanks i'll cache search
[12:47] <doodz> :)
[12:48] <Drgb> log files said i don't have access to tmp folder
[12:48] <Drgb> so i couldn't start a gnome session
[12:48] <Drgb> just terminal
[12:48] <Drgb> what should i do?
[12:48] <N1omi> CookedGryphon: apt-get kubuntu-desktop?
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> N1omi: yeah, its a metapackage that depends on all the kde files
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> Drgb: what's the exact file that it can't find? its not somethign line ICEauthority is it/
[12:50] <Drgb> there's something like a thousand of raws saying "permission denied".....let me take a look
[12:50] <AMDXP> thanks but i think mine is hardware related windows wont install SUSE freezes up and Ubuntu freezes up and I know all those CDs are not bad
[12:50] <CookedGryphon> k, i want the exact directory and a few filenames
[12:51] <Drgb> it takes a while to open syslog..
[12:52] <doodz> does the dvd version of ubuntu come with a heap of packages from apt ?
[12:52] <doodz> to save me downloading 460mb for kubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <Drgb> CookedGryphon,  Failed to open /tmp/gconfd-drgb: Permission denied
[12:52] <Drgb> this is repeated thousands and thousands of times
[12:53] <Drgb> :'''(
[12:53] <chicken-man> Drgb: chmod it ?
[12:53] <Drgb> chicken-man, how?
[12:53] <N1omi> doodz: you can download #kubuntu
[12:53] <chicken-man> Drgb: chmod u+rwx [file\folder]
[12:54] <jedrick> how to install alsa plugins
[12:54] <CookedGryphon> drgb, don't sudo chmod u+rwx /etc tho
[12:55] <Drgb> "don't"????
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> jsut "chmod u+rwx /etc/*drgb*
[12:55] <Drgb> uhm...ok
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> cos otherwise you would change the permissions of some files that aren't meant to be read/write etc. and that would cause more errors
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> so jstu change the ones with ure name in that u own
[12:56] <Drgb> `/etc/*drgb*': No such file or directory
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> bugger
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> lol
[12:56] <Drgb> ghghgh
[12:56] <Drgb> let me try
[12:56] <Drgb> i chmodded /tmp
[12:56] <Drgb> i try to lign now
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> hmmmmmm
[12:56] <Drgb> *login
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> things like X0-lock won't like it
[12:57] <Drgb> let's see it
[12:57] <Drgb> bb
[12:57] <Drgb> l8r
[12:58] <J_Element> any one is familiar with the freebsd
[12:58] <Steinbeck1> so much for ati
[12:58] <chicken-man> J_Element: me
[12:59] <J_Element> chicken-man
[12:59] <J_Element> can i ask u about it ! or is that a bother bro ?
[12:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> a
[12:59] <chicken-man> J_Element: not at all I have lot's of time
[01:00] <Seveas> J_Element, this channel is not about bsd...
[01:00] <J_Element> Seveas i know man
[01:00] <J_Element> i got ubuntu ... installed
[01:00] <J_Element> but this channel has helped me a lot
[01:00] <Seveas> try #freebsd
[01:00] <J_Element> so im tryin  my luck with freebsd aswell
[01:00] <brenner> Steinbeck1: what probs you having? just the slow framerate?
[01:00] <Corin> can anyone here help me with webalizer?
[01:00] <J_Element> Seveas i did! no ones answering
[01:01] <Seveas> J_Element, then try a mailing list for bsd, but not this channel
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> no it seems the installer was broke
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> but i downloaded it twice
[01:01] <chicken-man> J_Element: freeBSD is crappy i used it for a few hours and got bored :-)
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> missing some library file or something
[01:01] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, I just installed it, works fine here
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> what steps did you take?
[01:01] <Seveas> download the installer
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> maybe i did something wrong
[01:01] <Seveas> fakroot ./ati-blabla-run
[01:01] <Seveas> let it generate debs
[01:02] <Seveas> install the debs
[01:02] <Seveas> create and install kernel module with module-assistant
[01:02] <Seveas> reboot
[01:02] <Steinbeck1> i must of done something wrong than
[01:02] <Corin> can anyone help me get webalizer working?
[01:02] <Seveas> If you use the -686 kernel you can use the debs it created for me
[01:02] <Steinbeck1> because i did ./ati* but afterwards it just brought up the installer
[01:02] <J_Element> chicken-man :  umm its giving me an error when i startx
[01:03] <chicken-man> J_Element: Did you make sure it's fully installed ?
[01:03] <Drgb> nothing to do guys......it gives me lots of errors, i had to reboot
[01:03] <Seveas> J_Element, chicken-man #ubutnu-offtopic please
[01:03] <Drgb> i can't start the "gnome-settings-daemon" or something similar
[01:03] <Drgb> any suggestions?????
[01:04] <Seveas> Drgb, sudo ifup lo
[01:04] <N1omi> how can i mount a .cue/.bin? also, gksudo network-admincan i have some real-people recomendations for VNC viewers and software?
[01:04] <N1omi> err, ignore gksudo network-admin
[01:04] <Seveas> N1omi, 1) not, convert it to iso with bchunk 2) FreeNX
[01:04] <Drgb> Seveas,  ifup: interface lo already configured
[01:05] <Seveas> Drgb, you said you chmodded /tmp, that's bad
[01:05] <Drgb> chicken-man, i need a chicken to put into my mouth and stop breathing....
[01:05] <Seveas> sudo chmod 777 /tmp
[01:05] <Seveas> sudo chmod +t /tmp
[01:05] <Drgb> Seveas, i chmodded another folder inside tmp
[01:05] <Drgb> not tmp at all
[01:05] <chicken-man> Drgb: ? :-/
[01:05] <Seveas> Drgb, which one?
[01:05] <Corin> can someone please help me with webalizer? ive installed it, but /var/www/webalizer/ is an empty folder...
[01:06] <Drgb> gconfd-drgb
[01:06] <Drgb> but it vanished now, there's no such folder...
[01:06] <Drgb> omg..
[01:06] <sean_> how can i wach avi in ubuntu 64????
[01:06] <chicken-man> brb
[01:06] <hachre> if the permissions are wrong gnome deletes the folders i think, Drgb
[01:07] <sean_> how can i wach avi in ubuntu 64????
[01:07] <Drgb> and......what should i do then?
[01:07] <N1omi> sean_: same way you would in ubuntu 32, i think
[01:07] <sean_> how???
[01:07] <Drgb> maybe just "deluser drgb" and forive about having another user here....
[01:07] <Drgb> *forgive
[01:07] <N1omi> sean_: install proprietary codecs
[01:07] <Pjott\WORK> f**k! S**t, MotherF***ing Visual Basic!  Visual basic freaked out, and I forgot to save my work first. Thank god for Linux!
[01:07] <chicken-man> Back
[01:08] <StevenK> sean_: Have a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:08] <Corin> who are you penalising Seveas?
[01:08] <Corin> :P
[01:08] <Pjott\WORK> :/
[01:08] <Astxist> Pjott\WORK, heh
[01:08] <Pjott\WORK> That's the way it is...
[01:09] <Seveas> Pjott\WORK: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Well, back to work I'm going, after a relaxed cigarette ;)
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Seveas: Sure ;)
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Sorry for that, it will never happen again :D
[01:09] <hachre> Drgb, whats the problem - i came on too late
[01:09] <Corin> can someone PLEASE help me wth webalizer???
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Anyways... I'm off
[01:09] <Seveas> Corin: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:09] <Drgb> hachre, i'm trying to create a new user and log with it in a gnome session
[01:09] <Steinbeck1> how do i know what Ubuntu i have?
[01:10] <Corin> mailing list?
[01:10] <N1omi> Seveas: thanks for that program
[01:10] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:10] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, cat /etc/issue
[01:10] <Seveas> !mail
[01:10] <Drgb> but i can't start the gnome session....when i try it gives me lots of errors
[01:10] <ubotu> mail is probably another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[01:10] <StevenK> Blah, or that. :-)
[01:10] <olicat> anyone know which package has the setfacl command?
[01:10] <Drgb> and i have to reboot
[01:10] <Seveas> ^-- Corin
[01:10] <hachre> Drgb, did you use the Users & Group program from the gnome menu?
[01:10] <Seveas> !find setfacl
[01:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'setfacl' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/setfacl) in universe/utils/acl.
[01:11] <Drgb> hachre, i installed my os manually on another old os so i don't have every program
[01:11] <Drgb> i have to do it by command line
[01:11] <Seveas> olicat, the 'acl' package it seems
[01:11] <Steinbeck1> ok ati is giving me a choice to generate packages for 5.10 and another choice for breezy
[01:11] <olicat> Seveas, cool i'll have a look, thanks
[01:11] <Steinbeck1> which do i pick
[01:11] <Steinbeck1> or do i pick both?
[01:11] <Drgb> but if you tell me how to unstall the users and group manager manually maybe i can use that....
[01:11] <hachre> Drgb, did you use useradd -m name then?
[01:11] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: It depends on what /etc/issue says.
[01:11] <Drgb> -m????
[01:11] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me why Evolution is so god damn slow it take like 2 minutes to get each email :-(
[01:11] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, either
[01:11] <Drgb> why -m?
[01:12] <dorto> i was trying to pring a .ps file in ubuntu in evince. there is no option to print only even or only odd pages?
[01:12] <Drgb> i used "adduser drgb"
[01:12] <hachre> Drgb: -m creates the home directory
[01:12] <Steinbeck1> it says Ubuntu breezy 5.10
[01:12] <Steinbeck1> ok
[01:12] <hachre> drgb: you need to use -m always - a user without a home directory wont work with gnome
[01:12] <dorto> i want to print on both sides of the paper. how to go about it?
[01:12] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: Then grab the Breezy one.
[01:12] <Seveas> dorto, manually feed each sheet of paper...
[01:12] <hachre> Drgb: try to delete the user again with userdel and delete his stuff in /tmp
[01:12] <Seveas> (yes it sucks, and no there is no other way..)
[01:12] <hachre> Drgb: then recreate with useradd -m
[01:12] <Drgb> ok...i try
[01:13] <johnm> Seveas: can't yu get a duplexer for that printer?
[01:13] <dorto> :(
[01:14] <dorto> adobe acrobat has such an option
[01:14] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me why Evolution is so god damn slow it take like 2 minutes to get each email :-(
[01:14] <dorto> maybe i should search for it for ubuntu too
[01:14] <brenner> my apt-cache seems to be cleared every day or so (hoary didn't seem to do this), and i have to update which is a pain (i'm still on diakup) ... how can i resovle this?
[01:14] <Steinbeck1> ok it gave me an error when installing
[01:14] <Seveas> dorto, it's in mutliverse
[01:14] <johnm> dorto: you can get acrobat reader fo rlinux
[01:14] <dorto> or i will have to go to windows just for taking printouts
[01:14] <Steinbeck1> says dpkg-buildpackage command not found
[01:14] <chicken-man> brenner: get broadband :-D
[01:14] <dorto> ok
[01:15] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: Install dpkg-dev and build-essential
[01:15] <StevenK> Er, just build-essential.
[01:15] <brenner> chicken-man: that still won't resolve my apt-cache getting cleared :-/
[01:15] <surfdue> how do i upgrade the mysql4 to 5
[01:15] <brenner> it would just make it less painful :)
[01:15] <surfdue> in package system
[01:15] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, which kernel do you use?
[01:16] <chicken-man> Is there a good mail program for gnome as Evolution is too slow ?
[01:16] <Seveas> chicken-man, thunderbird perhaps
[01:16] <johnm> chicken-man: balsa, thunderbird?
[01:16] <highvoltage> chickenbirf
[01:16] <highvoltage> chickenbird
[01:17] <selinium> Hi all, i have just reinstalled breezy. I keep the /home directory on a seperate HD. My user is working fine but after setting up another user. it fails to open this user. one with a security on $HOME/.dmrc and also the x session does not last for more than ten secs. Any ideas?
[01:17] <nalioth> chicken-man: sylpheed-claws
[01:17] <Drgb> Who told me to use "-m"???????????????????????????????'
[01:18] <Drgb> whoever did......he's a genius, thanx very much guys c u all
[01:18] <topmate> how can I install a deb package I've downloaded?
[01:18] <StevenK> topmate: sudo dpkg -i <deb file>
[01:18] <StevenK> topmate: In a terminal, of course.
[01:18] <selinium> Seveas: is there a password or something on your java file in the repo? I get a 404 whenever I try
[01:19] <Steinbeck1> how do you kill an application?
[01:19] <Steinbeck1> 2.6
[01:19] <fsmw> chicken-man, do you have remote test for spam in evolution?
[01:19] <Seveas> selinium, no it's a misconfiguration in the repo
[01:19] <topmate> ah, good point steven, doh!
[01:19] <brenner> topmate: what is it?
[01:19] <Seveas> i'll solve it later today
[01:19] <chicken-man> fsmw: not sure
[01:19] <selinium> np :) CHeers Seveas :)
[01:19] <fsmw> that make it slow....
[01:20] <fsmw> check your config at preferences
[01:20] <chicken-man> fsmw: ok
[01:20] <fsmw> evo isn't slow
[01:21] <chicken-man> fsmw: My computer is :-D
[01:21] <fsmw> remove update-manager and update-notifier...
[01:21] <fsmw> that are slow
[01:23] <chicken-man> fsmw: don't have them, I installed gnome from a server install :-P
[01:24] <brenner> fsmw: aren't those seperate apps though?
[01:24] <fsmw> yes they are, but are slow
[01:24] <fsmw> and i'm a python fan....
[01:25] <brenner> but how do they slow up evo then?
[01:25] <brenner> or do they slow up gnome in general?
[01:26] <lingoist> hello! just partly succeeded with installing ubuntu...anyhow, when i start up in "normal mode" (not recovery) I get a black screen
[01:26] <Steinbeck1> ive installed the dpkg-dev and build-essentials and it still gets and still getting errors
[01:26] <fsmw> brenner, in general
[01:27] <Steinbeck1> says make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[01:27] <brenner> fsmw: nice.  any other spped tweaks?
[01:27] <brenner> *speed
[01:27] <Steinbeck1> any ideas?
[01:28] <fsmw> check your services...
[01:28] <jedrick> how to install alsa plugins?
[01:28] <brenner> lingoist: this your 1st distro?
[01:28] <AzMoo> Anyway I can just install the php binary without apache?
[01:28] <fsmw> s
[01:28] <fsmw> brenner, service-admin
[01:29] <lingoist> brenner: the first I was able to install on my a6va notebook....see: http://jeriko.l-tech.org/2005/10/18/asus-a6va-und-ubuntu-510/
[01:29] <brenner> services-admin :)
[01:29] <brenner> lingoist: just asking b/c i was gonna suggest [1]  looking at the xorg log [2]  trying the vesa driver
[01:30] <onkarshinde> I want to use eclipse in breezy and want to make sure that programs I compile in it run on other JVMs. Which package should I install?
[01:30] <lingoist> brenner: whats [1]  and [2]  ? :)
[01:30] <chicken-man> lingoist: try starting in recovery mode and run startx
[01:30] <brenner> er, isn't it obvious?
[01:31] <brenner> i was just numbering the options
[01:31] <lingoist> chicken-man: black again
[01:31] <lingoist> brenner: i see
[01:31] <chicken-man> lingoist: check the logs
[01:32] <lingoist> how can i kill the xserver again?
[01:32] <aftertaf> stop gdm/kdm or kill xorg
[01:32] <lingoist> chicken-man: dunno where to find the logs :( am new...
[01:32] <aftertaf> /var/logs
[01:32] <brenner> lingoist: try ctrl+alt+f1
[01:32] <lingoist> thx aftertaf
[01:33] <lingoist> aftertaf: how do i get out of black again...cant type as i cant see
[01:33] <brenner> lingoist: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:33] <chicken-man> brb (need food)
[01:33] <lingoist> brenner: will do in a sec...thx!
[01:33] <brenner> lingoist: which is why i recommended the key sequence
[01:33] <brenner> :P
[01:33] <lingoist> ok, will restart then
[01:33] <aftertaf> lingoist:  black on black? erf... better to not kill like brenner said then...
[01:33] <onkarshinde> I want to use eclipse in breezy and want to make sure that programs I compile in it run on other JVMs. Which package should I install?
[01:34] <brenner> oh?
[01:35] <jedrick> how to install alsa plugins? or change my oss plugin to alsa
[01:35] <aftertaf> jedrick:  for system sounds, or in a media player?
[01:35] <ceej> does anyone know how to uninstall limewire
[01:35] <jedrick> for system
[01:36] <aftertaf> jedrick:  gnome, i dunno.... check in your control centre type of thing.... should be a dropdown list somewhere.
[01:36] <jedrick> aftertaf: where?
[01:36] <onkarshinde> jedrick: alsa is not plugin. It is sound architecture and provides drivers. You can change OSS to alsa from System->Preferences->Sound
[01:36] <onkarshinde> ceej: How did you install it?
[01:36] <aftertaf> thx onkarshinde :)
[01:36] <jedrick> onfire_nux: ok i'll try
[01:37] <ceej> automatrix
[01:37] <lingoist> ok, my xorg.conf says: Driver "ati" ... just change it to "vesa" ?
[01:37] <onkarshinde> ceej: what is automatrix?
[01:37] <jedrick> there's no alsa in there, my default sound card is SIS
[01:37] <onkarshinde> lingoist: What are you trying to do?
[01:37] <brenner> lingoist: yes, try that
[01:38] <onkarshinde> jedrick: Just wait, I will tell you exact menu
[01:38] <jedrick> onkarshinde:  ok
[01:38] <lingoist> brenner: ok, works :)
[01:38] <brenner> lingoist: got into X?
[01:39] <onkarshinde> jedrick: What version of Ubuntu?
[01:39] <lingoist> brenner: yes
[01:39] <lingoist> but: internal error: faild to initialize HAL
[01:39] <jedrick> breezy
[01:39] <ceej> E: Unable to correct missing packages
[01:39] <sazwerx> how to activate wheelmouse?
[01:39] <ceej> W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[01:39] <ceej>   404 Not Found
[01:39] <ceej> can anyone help?
[01:39] <lingoist> first time i see the ubuntu screen...kewl... :) thx guys
[01:39] <ceej> says that when i het apply in SPM
[01:40] <brenner> lingoist: np, you won't have 3d accel though
[01:40] <Steinbeck1> im getting an /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 175: fakeroot: command not found....when trying to install ati
[01:40] <onkarshinde> jedrick: In Preferences see Multimedia Systems Selector
[01:40] <Steinbeck1> drivers any ideas on what it is?
[01:40] <SpaceNuts> ceej, you better ask that in #ubuntu-nl seveas is a ubuntu-nl member
[01:40] <brenner> you might want to try the fglrx driver for that ... what card do you have?
[01:40] <Seveas> SpaceNuts, koekoek
[01:40] <Seveas> I'm here too :)
[01:40] <jedrick> onkarshinde: ok
[01:40] <SpaceNuts> Seveas, oi sorry :D
[01:40] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: How are you trying to install it?
[01:40] <ceej> k
[01:40] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: which ati card?
[01:41] <lingoist> hm, there are a few howtos on the site i posted before...guess i will be able to make it run myself...hopefully...if not i'll come back and annoy you guys a bit more ;) thx so far!!!
[01:41] <SpaceNuts> does anyone know how to disable the use of swap on the harddisk when booting the livecd, so the livecd does not activate the swap on the harddisk?
[01:41] <Steinbeck1> x800
[01:41] <brenner> lingoist: better to use the wiki imo
[01:41] <lingoist> ok, thx brenner
[01:41] <lingoist> URL?
[01:42] <lingoist> this ubuntu stuff looks amazing!! wow!!
[01:42] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Did you try fglrx driver that can be installed from repos?
[01:42] <brenner> lingoist: wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <queuetue> Has mono finally "infected" evolution?  The latest build it so slow and crashy ... I'm thinking of doing my mail on my mac laptop from now on instead.
[01:42] <onkarshinde> !info ati
[01:42] <lingoist> thx a lot brenner...could have guessed :)
[01:42] <brenner> lingoist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI in particular
[01:43] <queuetue> ("latest build == "shipped with breezy")
[01:43] <Seveas> ceej, Java is not downloadable there atm
[01:43] <ceej> how come?
[01:43] <Steinbeck1> no :)
[01:43] <Steinbeck1> ill try that
[01:43] <onkarshinde> !tell Steinbeck1 about ati
[01:43] <ceej> Seveas: do you know when it will be?
[01:44] <Seveas> ceej, sometime between now and 2010 probably
[01:45] <ceej> Seveas: LOL!!!
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> sup
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> i was upgrading to breeze
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> and i got this msg people
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> help
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Fetched 398MB in 3d 5h16m30s (1432B/s)
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxt/libxt6_0.99.0+cvs.20050803-3_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxmu/libxmu6_6.2.3-5_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxpm/libxpm4_3.5.2-5_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:45] <Seveas> a*hole
[01:45] <Seveas> NEVERF paste in here
[01:45] <onkarshinde> Seveas: his nick indicates what he is.
[01:46] <SpaceNuts> Seveas, he didn't paste, he typed it :D
[01:46] <Seveas> even newbies should not paste
[01:46] <Seveas> rofl
[01:46] <steve_gator> ive never used irc before...
[01:46] <brenner> fresh meat
[01:47] <SpaceNuts> steve_gator, congrats, you are devirginezed right now ;)
[01:47] <onkarshinde> When will OOo2 be updated?
[01:48] <steve_gator> ta, ive got ubuntu on my LG ls50-6 laptop what about u guys..
[01:48] <ceej> how do i remove a directory in the terminal?
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> OOo2, is to much like MS Word
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> ceej
[01:48] <Seveas> ceej, rmdir
[01:48] <ceej> sudo rm /opt dosn't work
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> ceej, rm -r dirname
[01:48] <ceej> ah ok, thanks soz :)
[01:48] <brenner> steve_gator: got it on my laptop too
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> ceej, or rmdir for empty dirs
[01:48] <onkarshinde> ceej: rmdir name if it is empty else \rm -rf name
[01:49] <aeon17x> Take care using the -rf option though.
[01:49] <Coburn> can i put xfdesktop on gnome ??
[01:49] <steve_gator> hey brenner is it a LG?
[01:49] <ceej> thank you
[01:49] <brenner> steve_gator: nope, compaq. why, having probs?
[01:50] <queuetue> After upgrading to breezy, everyone is having a really rough time with evolution - random crashes, *HUGE* memory consumption ... is there a way to get a lighter evo, with maybe less "enterprise" crap and *no* mono?
[01:50] <Coburn> can i put xfdesktop on gnome ?? please tell me something
[01:50] <brenner> well, i've heard 3 complaints in 2 hrs
[01:51] <queuetue> 5 people now have told me they need to double the ram they used wit hoary in order to acommodate evolution under breezy ...
[01:51] <steve_gator> Nope , it rocks i'm very happy with it , on par with mepis..
[01:51] <aeon17x> queuetue: o_O
[01:51] <aeon17x> queuetue: surely they must be joking?
[01:52] <queuetue> aeon17x: I've never understood what that expression was supposed to mean...
[01:52] <queuetue> aeon17x: But, no , no one isjoking.  Evolution is requiring around 800 megs, on average.
[01:52] <brenner> steve_gator: brilliant
[01:52] <aeon17x> o_O -> partial shock
[01:53] <StDellis> wuts evolution?
[01:53] <steve_gator> hey brenner, how come your highlighted in red with my name ( i am new ti irc...)
[01:53] <shtron> Seveas, Earlier you told me not to only compile kernel the way ubuntu wiki explain. what's wrong with the old fashion way? if I need 2.6.14, can I use apt-get to get the source and then patch it from kernel.org?