[05:09] <leapy0yo> when my external hard drive has to be reinitialize smplayer stops completely; however, vlc does not act that way, it waits for a while then it continues
[05:09] <ruan> !info fslint
[05:09] <leapy0yo> how can i fix this?
[05:10] <lazyPower> Question about the Natty Beta, how do you change the screen resolution? the system-applet has been removed (As far as i can tell) and its not using xorg, so i'm at a loss on how to change it. Maybe my google-fu is weak tonight?
[05:10] <ruan> lazyPower: natty support only in #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <Blits> hello Ahadiel
[05:11] <Blits> hello MoLE_
[05:11] <lazyPower> ruan: ty
[05:11] <MoLE_> g'day Blits
[05:11] <Blits> hello  HeIsRisen
[05:12] <HeIsRisen> Is Blits a bot?
[05:13] <Blits> hello  Vr_Ray
[05:13] <Blits> hello  guitardk
[05:13] <Blits> hello  i_is_broke
[05:13] <ruan> eh..
[05:13] <Blits> hello  Athenon
[05:13] <Blits> hello ubudork
[05:14] <leapy0yo> while using my external hard drive to play movies, smplayer stops if the external hard drive has to spin up again after stoping... but vlc does not stop... it simply pauses then goes again
[05:14] <izinucs> !ops | Blits bot?
[05:14] <rww> Blits: turn that off, now.
[05:14] <manuel__> how do i add a shortcut to the unit panel?
[05:14] <ouyes> I have only one operating system installed in my hdd one, that is ubuntu, but the grub was installed, I do not want,  Is there a way to boot the system without grub?
[05:15] <Blits> hello cavalier_prime
[05:15] <Blits> hello  RKyle_
[05:15] <shcherbak> bye Blits
[05:15] <ruan> bye Blits
[05:15] <RKyle_> lulz
[05:15] <leapy0yo> while using my external hard drive to play movies, smplayer stops if the external hard drive has to spin up again after stoping... but vlc does not stop... it simply pauses then goes again
[05:15] <ubudork> hola... i just updated 10.10 to 11.04... after i have logged in i see my new desktop, i can move the mouse around  but that is it. no response to keyboard or clicking on any item. all seems frozen... heeeelp!
[05:16] <ruan> ubudork: natty support only in #ubuntu+1
[05:16] <infinitux> i can't play any sounds but the test speakers function works!
[05:17] <ubudork> ruan: ok thanks
[05:17] <excelsior> shcherbak: Hey, I restarted again and everything seems back to normal
[05:17] <rigved> ouyes: you cannot boot any operating system without a bootloader, which is exactly what grub is - a bootloader
[05:17] <excelsior> compiz seems to be working
[05:17] <shcherbak> leapy0yo: you could try to pipe movie into mplayer (or make wrapper with tmp somwhere).
[05:18] <bin_bash> Hey guise. I'm having a hard time finding a driver for my network card. I'm not exactly sure what to do. I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 on a MBP 8,1.
[05:18] <shcherbak> excelsior: Sorry, should warn you that swapping matacity/compiz (too happily) can brake gtk.
[05:19] <HeIsRisen> Can anybody tell me why my sound would stop working all of a sudden
[05:19] <excelsior> why didn't compiz work for me on the reboot
[05:19] <leapy0yo> shcherbak: how would i do that?
[05:19] <HeIsRisen> The only way to fix it is to reboot, nothing is muted that I can see anywhere
[05:19] <HeIsRisen> I'm running 10.10
[05:20] <Blue1> !sound | HeIsRisen
[05:21] <ruan> bin_bash: which network card is this?
[05:21] <bin_bash> ruan: NetXtreme BCM57765
[05:21] <webPragmatist> how much swap space should i have on a mysql server with 4gb of ram
[05:21] <HeIsRisen> Thanks Blue1, but been to all those links, not helping
[05:22] <ruan> !swap
[05:22] <ruan> webPragmatist: 3gb swap at most
[05:22] <webPragmatist> okay i think i am just going to match the ram
[05:23] <bullgard4> ' ~$ ps aux | grep 1653; detlef    1653  0.0  0.7  39908 15396 ?   S   Apr01   0:43 /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.7.4/bin/beam -Bd -K true -- -root /usr/lib/erlang -progname erl -- -home /home/detlef -- -noshell -noinput -smp auto -sasl errlog_type error -pa /usr/lib/couchdb/erlang/lib/couch-0.10.0/ebin /usr/lib/couchdb/erlang/lib/mochiweb-r97/ebin ...' --  What is the function of the process »beam«?
[05:23] <ruan> !info erlang-base
[05:25] <Zealous> i give up on the noogle....How do i extract ISO file contents as i want to attempt to install iOS SDK on ubuntu
[05:26] <soreau> Zealous: You can mount it to see the contents..
[05:26] <ruan> Zealous: archive manager and mounter support iso
[05:26] <Zealous> hhmm let me give it a crack then :) cheers
[05:26] <ScGFreakster> plz how to work with that irc chat smuxi?? i want to join quakenet server but im kinda lost in here
[05:28] <ouyes> what is the bootloader of windows xp?
[05:28] <alex86> program search path $echo path it shows me a path to several directories separated by semicolon. why do i need these paths?
[05:28] <ouyes> rigved, the question is for you
[05:29] <shcherbak> leapy0yo: two line script: line1: cp /my/movie/from/ext ~/temp.avi & line2: mplayer ~/temp.avi && rm temp.avi
[05:29] <ruan> ouyes: ntldr?
[05:29] <Evanlec> Hi
[05:29] <rigved> ouyes: i think it's called "ntldr". but not sure. we do not provide support for windows here. ask in #windows
[05:29] <shcherbak> leapy0yo: you can make it to get argument from command line.
[05:30] <Zealous> i have a DMG file aka MAC OSX, is that compadible with ubuntu
[05:30] <ruan> ouyes: ##windows
[05:30] <rigved> sorry didn't see that ruan had already answered
[05:31] <varun> hi friends,is there any channel for skype issues or i can ask here only
[05:31] <varun> hi friends,is there any channel for skype issues or i can ask here only
[05:31] <varun> any one there
[05:31] <FloodBot2> varun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <ruan> Zealous: there might be applications to open dmg files
[05:31] <Zealous> this is day 2 of trying to get this working
[05:31] <Zealous> i made it into a IMG and mounted it and it is blank
[05:32] <ruan> why does someone ask a question twice and leave? its like he expects an answer in a split second
[05:32] <Zealous> i am trying to install the iOS SDK and it is getting to the point there i am going to change to MAC OS as it will work then
[05:32] <manuel__> how do i pin srware iron launcher to unit?
[05:32] <manuel__> how do i pin srware iron launcher to unity?
[05:33] <redent> Zealous: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm open dmg with linux
[05:33] <Zealous> love you long time checking......
[05:33] <rigved> Zealous: running MacOSX on non-Apple hardware is not officially supported anywhere
[05:33] <ohsix> Zealous: dmg files are many things, and they're not often images with just filesystems in them; you need to use diskutil in osx to do stuff with nearly all of them
[05:33] <ruan> Zealous: + it might not work on an amd processor
[05:33] <Zealous> so will it just make life easy just to go to MAC\
[05:34] <Zealous> i have intel on the laptop
[05:34] <Zealous> i love ubuntu tho
[05:34] <cavalier_prime> develop android then
[05:34] <ruan> ubuntu wasn't made for creating mac software
[05:34] <rigved> Zealous: use dual boot with mac and ubuntu
[05:35] <Zealous> would i need to redo the patitions then
[05:35] <Zealous> i don't want to format and redo things again
[05:35] <redent> Zealous: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dmgmount/ screenshots are from ubuntu os
[05:36] <Zealous> this is soo much fun lol
[05:36] <redent> porque
[05:38] <Zealous> i did the file DMG
[05:38] <Zealous> i got VAX COFF executable not stripped - version 376
[05:39] <bin_bash> Guise. I can't find a driver for my internet at all on 10.04 I'm not really sure what to do. I'm running 10.04 on a MBP 8,1 with the Sandy Bridge set.
[05:39] <rjgonza> I installed ubuntu 10.10 the 64-bit version by mistake, is there any way to convert to 32-bit?
[05:39] <syrinx_> oh hai guise
[05:39] <redent> Zealous: did it work?
[05:39] <ruan> rjgonza: only by installing 32bit
[05:40] <Zealous> don't look good
[05:40] <rjgonza> would i have to format?
[05:40] <Zealous> still playing with it
[05:40] <ruan> rjgonza: you don't have to format, you can create a new partition for 32bit and delete the 64bit one
[05:40] <rjgonza> ahh, that is a great idea!
[05:40] <Pondera> hello i have a  hp pavillion a1520n (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00674955&lc=en&cc=us&product=3184139&dlc) and im having a issue booting the ubuntu live disk, i see the splash screen gfor 2 secs and it sleeps my moniter
[05:40] <rjgonza> thanks ruan!
[05:40] <Pondera> help or sugestions would be nice
[05:41] <bin_bash> ruan: Do you know what I can do to get my ubuntu partition working? I'm really freaking out since I need to access all my school work.
[05:41] <luchohasbon> hello
[05:41] <luchohasbon> dear Comunity, I ve wondering
[05:41] <syrinx_> !ask
[05:42] <ruan> luchohasbon: yes?
[05:42] <Zealous> kurnel could not find the HSF file system
[05:42] <RealOpty> vitrualbox uses kernel modules right?
[05:42] <ruan> hfs
[05:42] <eoss> why is C so hard to learn
[05:42] <ohsix> it's not
[05:42] <luchohasbon> how do i set the device for a driver, the thing is that I have two soundcards under the same module snd_hda_intel, but alsa only recognize one. And I need the other one, I have an Nvidia hdmi and the motherboard via vt1708 azalia soundcard i need that one the azalia
[05:42] <ohsix> not knowing anything about computers before you do is a problem though
[05:43] <syrinx_> ^
[05:44] <Pondera> hello i have a  hp pavillion a1520n (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00674955&lc=en&cc=us&product=3184139&dlc) and im having a issue booting the ubuntu live disk, i see the splash screen gfor 2 secs and it sleeps my moniter ive searched high and low for a solution, no luck
[05:44] <ruan> Pondera: does the alternative version work?
[05:44] <ruan> !alternative
[05:45] <pbiggar> Hi. I've had hibernate problems for a year, and have been unable to fix them. Can someone help me debug and fix this?
[05:45] <jrodger> what do I need to install to enable a touchscreen
[05:45] <luchohasbon> the correct driver
[05:45] <ruan> jrodger: touchscreen devices should work by default, but some may need drivers
[05:46] <Pondera> thank you ruan
[05:46] <luchohasbon> please
[05:46] <luchohasbon> help me
[05:46] <lingo> hi all
[05:46] <KB1JWQ> !please | luchohasbon
[05:47] <Ramir00> sdaf
[05:47] <ruan> luchohasbon: is it detected under sound preferences?
[05:47] <ruan> !sound
[05:48] <luchohasbon> how do i load an specific device for a driver, i have two soundcards one is hdmi and the other one is the default motherboard, i need to use the motherboard, both cards use the same sound module, snd_hda_intel, but alsa only recognize the Nvidia hdmi card, with lspci, it recognize both but only nvidia hdmi appears to be using the kernel
[05:50] <pbiggar> !repeat
[05:50] <pbiggar> (hmm, my bad. I thought that repeated my question)
[05:51] <luchohasbon> !repeat
[05:51] <luchohasbon> how do i load an specific device for a driver, i have two soundcards one is hdmi and the other one is the default motherboard, i need to use the motherboard, both cards use the same sound module, snd_hda_intel, but alsa only recognize the Nvidia hdmi card, with lspci, it recognize both but only nvidia hdmi appears to be using the kernel
[05:51] <ruan> luchohasbon: answer my question, did you check sound preferences?
[05:52] <Guest12991> luchohasbon: yes hardware tab, what you see there
[05:52] <jlee> Can anybody help me with this? I'm trying to send mail outside of network. I am using postfix, and using terminal to send. I followed < https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix > to set it up. I can't get past the test in the "Adding your local domains to postfix" at < https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto  >.  I can cut and past mail.log or something else, mail.log says connection timed out or something.
[05:53] <luchohasbon> ruan, there is not  in sound preferences, nor in alsamixer or pavucontrol, but it is shown in lspci
[05:55] <Anakin_n> jlee do you have ping to smtp server ?
[05:57] <jlee> Anakin_n  i'll check
[05:58] <ruan> luchohasbon: and in gksduo gstreamer-properties?
[05:58] <kunji> Hey everyone, I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 and have found recently that I can no longer execute programs on my second SATA drive, they need to be moved to the one that the OS is running off of, though I don't have a third drive connected to try.  Any ideas why this might be?  I am unable to modify the permissions of these files as long as they are on that drive, if I move them though, then I can change the permissions and run them.
[05:58] <Anakin_n> luchohasbon what sound device you not see in sound preferences -> hardware tab ?
[05:59] <ruan> kunji: what filesystem is this SATA drive?
[05:59] <luchohasbon> Anakin_n: I don't see the ViA Azalia vt1708/a
[05:59] <ruan> luchohasbon: gksudo**
[06:00] <EkN77> meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
[06:00] <luchohasbon> ruan: gksudo?
[06:00] <EkN77> u know.....
[06:00] <ruan> luchohasbon: gksudo gstreamer-properties
[06:00] <EkN77> nm
[06:00] <bin_bash> Does anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu on a brand new MacBook Pro 8,1?
[06:01] <kunji> ruan: I forget, I created it on my windows partition because I knew linux would pick up on it.  I used to be able to run these files off of it, I've only noticed this change of behavior these last two or three weeks.
[06:01] <jlee> Anakin_n Average was about 43 ms.
[06:01] <ruan> kunji: what happens if you mount the drive with ntfs-3g?
[06:01] <ruan> partition
[06:01] <EkN77> may i ?
[06:01] <EkN77> ok
[06:01] <ruan> !mac
[06:01] <EkN77> Lubuntu is Great
[06:01] <EkN77> :)
[06:01] <kunji> It is HPFS/NTFS, just checked.
[06:02] <bin_bash> ubottu: I checked there, and this one isn't supported. What can I do?
[06:02] <ruan> kunji: ntfs-3g solved my problems with execution
[06:03] <luchohasbon> ruan: in gstreamer-properties it only detects the hdmi
[06:03] <EkN77> it's like 50 % lighter than ubuntu... that + cromium, will make your eee 900 feel like a new thingie
[06:03] <ruan> kunji: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdX /mnt/ntfs
[06:05] <luchohasbon> look the lspci output
[06:05] <luchohasbon> Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be9 (rev a1)
[06:05] <luchohasbon> 	Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Device 2023
[06:05] <luchohasbon> 	Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
[06:05] <luchohasbon> 	Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[06:05] <luchohasbon> 04:05.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
[06:05] <FloodBot2> luchohasbon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:05] <kunji> ruan: fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/ntfs: No such file or directory
[06:05] <ruan> kunji: wherever you mounted the ntfs drive
[06:06] <EkN77> im drunk btw, but .. u know, this is great.. irc and all :))
[06:06] <ruan> kunji: or sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs
[06:06] <Anakin_n> jlee can you telnet to the smpt server ?
[06:07] <jlee> Anakin_n yes port 25
[06:07] <viewer> i have two sata drives that i guess ubuntu thinks are external media so the devices show up in the device pane in nautilus but i have to actually click on them after booting for them to mount in /media/, how can i make this automatic?
[06:07] <EkN77> is there a female here ?
[06:07] <Suhn> I just updated to 11.04
[06:07] <EkN77> ack :(
[06:08] <Suhn> but when i try to boot linux it just restarts the computer
[06:08] <JackStoner> EkN77: female what?
[06:08] <Suhn> again
[06:08] <kunji> ruan: Hmm, that seems to work quite nicely, do you know what the problem might have been though?
[06:08] <ruan> Suhn: natty support only in #ubuntu+1
[06:08] <Suhn> what do i do now
[06:08] <ruan> kunji: the default 'ntfs' driver seems to only allow reading
[06:08] <xangua> Suhn: install a stable version
[06:08] <Suhn> so i lost all my ubuntu files?
[06:09] <EkN77> Female human
[06:09] <ruan> Suhn: can you boot into recovery mode?
[06:09] <Anakin_n> luchohasbon i find many topics with problems for ViA Azalia vt1708/a and ubunu 10.10 , its may be a bug, may be you need to report it
[06:09] <EkN77> not slot
[06:09] <Suhn> On the boot manager when i select ubuntu, it just restarts the computer
[06:09] <JackStoner> EkN77: oh..ok. Ummm..goodluck
[06:09] <kunji> ruan: Did that change in 10.10?  I updated to 10.10 around that time.
[06:09] <ruan> kunji: im on 10.10
[06:10] <kunji> ruan: I mean was that the case in 10.04, since it was previously working for me.
[06:10] <ruan> kunji: haven't been able to test, i started using ubuntu at v10.10
[06:10] <jlee> Apr  1 21:20:43 cannedHeat postfix/qmgr[6924]: 7661C32015A<EMAIL_ADDRESS>size=370, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[06:10] <jlee> Apr  1 21:21:13 cannedHeat postfix/smtp[7089]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25: Connection timed out
[06:10] <jlee> can anybody help with this?
[06:11] <sahilm> Could someone please recommend a netbook without suspend/resume and wi-fi issues.
[06:11] <ruan> !hardware
[06:11] <kunji> ruan: Hmm, interesting, I'll need to look into this further, thanks for the help.
[06:11] <tHe-OuF> HI all
[06:11] <sahilm> ruan: That list isn't very helpful.
[06:11] <luchohasbon> Anakin_n:  I've already reported but, no one has replied, Ive been trying to fix it, all I need is to know how to set up a device a driver and a module, the fact is that I have the same module for two differente devices
[06:11] <ruan> before 10.10 i had a 9.04 vm, that's as far back as i've been
[06:12] <sahilm> ruan: Everything has reported issues. I am looking for a personal review of something that just works
[06:12] <tHe-OuF> I m new in umbutu , is there someone who know kate
[06:12] <tHe-OuF> the texte editor
[06:12] <tHe-OuF> ???
[06:12] <ruan> !kate
[06:13] <ruan> tHe-OuF: what about it?
[06:13] <tHe-OuF> i would like to add the SQL plug in but i don't know how
[06:13] <tHe-OuF> can u help me
[06:13] <tHe-OuF> ?
[06:14] <Fogel> tHe-OuF: if you need SQL plugin then you know how to use google
[06:14] <ubquest> i am looking for a (cad style) program that can draw 2d maps, and can easily apply measurement annotations that show distance of lines etc
[06:14] <kunji> sahilm: my lenovo s10-3t doesn't have wireless issues, never tried suspend/resume though since I find it useless, I either need it on so I can use it or off/at least hibernated to actually save all the power possible.  It has a nice fancy touch screen as well.
[06:14] <ruan> ubquest: openoffice might have something like that, im not sure
[06:15] <tHe-OuF> i ve found one page where they explain but i don't understand (its my first day with linux)
[06:15] <ruan> link the page
[06:15] <ruan> ubquest: have you tried openoffice.org draw?
[06:15] <Anakin_n> jlee can you try other smpt ? may be gmail not allow you
[06:16] <ubquest> i looked at it, couldnt see a way to do automatic distance annotations (might have just missed the feature)
[06:16] <Fogel> Anakin_n: this protocol; ic salled *smtp*
[06:17] <ruan> ubquest: i'll search for it
[06:17] <kunji> ubquest: have you tried out the stuff that comes up when you search "cad" in the software center?
[06:17] <kunji> ubquest: you could also try inkscape.
[06:17] <tHe-OuF> ok
[06:17] <tHe-OuF> thx guys
[06:18] <ubquest> tried inkscape - it has a ruler but doesnt seem to display the actual distance in text (unless i missed a setting somewhere)
[06:18] <kunji> ubquest: oh, well, it might be a buried option, I haven't used it much yet.
[06:19] <milamber> ubquest: try qcad?
[06:19] <jlee> Anakin_n  What do you mean?
[06:19] <Anakin_n> luchohasbon are you tested in other linuxes or win ? you can try ask in alsa-project.org
[06:20] <ubquest> downloading qcad, not tried yet though
[06:20] <luchohasbon> Anakin_n: Unfortunately in windows, this soundcard works perfectly :S
[06:21] <luchohasbon> Anakin_n: with ubuntu 10.04 it worked perfectly also
[06:23] <luchohasbon> Anakin_n: thanks a lot  mmm I supposed Im going back to 10.04 its ok anyway thanks
[06:26] <Guest81672> Xchat is a chat client right?
[06:26] <danileigh79> dapenguin, are you on?
[06:27] <xangua> Guest81672: irc client
[06:27] <syrinx_> Guest81672: irssi ftw
[06:28] <danileigh79> ok, need help, anyone know why installing xmms says needs gtk_ 1.2 or higher, I already have 2.0 or higher
[06:29] <ajah> grub2 complains for syntax error file not missing linux image, doesnt  load the boot menu but just  boot the first entry in grub.cfg
[06:29] <xangua> daniel3_: sudo apt-get install xmms2
[06:29] <speedrunnerG55> hello fellow linux users
[06:29] <DrakasX> why hello there
[06:30] <danileigh79> xangua, Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:31] <xangua> daniel3_: close synaptic/software centre
[06:31] <xangua> danileigh79*
[06:32] <danileigh79> xangua, will close it and rety, is installing gnome_core_devel
[06:33] <syrinx_> -+
[06:33] <ruit> 这里有中国人吗？
[06:34] <ruan> !ch
[06:34] <ruan> !cn
[06:34] <dkonal> what command do i type to get the ip of my router?
[06:34] <ruan> >_>
[06:34] <SwedeMike> dkonal: ip r l will show you your default route pointing at your gateway closest IP
[06:34] <ohsix> dkonal: route, it should be the one marked gw
[06:35] <ruit> 这里太冷清了，老美都睡觉了?
[06:35] <SwedeMike> dkonal: netstast -rn does the same thing
[06:35] <SwedeMike> !cn | ruit
[06:35] <dkonal> thankyou
[06:35] <danileigh79> xangua, does xmms have a gui?
[06:35] <SwedeMike> dkonal: netstat -rn I mean
[06:35] <danileigh79> xangua, er xmms2
[06:36] <xangua> daniel3_: lots, havent use it for a long time
[06:36] <Wizyrkah> Ola ikonia bruder && Pici bruder!
[06:37] <Wizyrkah> t-RoLL depends:)
[06:37] <Wizyrkah> Hozsi!
[06:37] <Wizyrkah>  ...mert én mondom Tinéktek "Hozsánna néktek dicsőséges Testvéreim!"
[06:38] <Wizyrkah> Ola penguinz!
[06:38] <danileigh79> still can't get xmms2 to work...
[06:38] <Anakin_n> jlee ?
[06:41] <Anakin_n> jlee Gmail SMTP does not use port 25, it's required TSL or SSL , thats mean you must try telnet on Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587 or Port for SSL: 465
[06:41] <Palestina_FREE> hola
[06:41] <ruit> ubottu, are you a robot?
[06:42] <jlee> Anakin_n I read somewhere a work around was to use relayhost?
[06:42] <jlee> Anakin_n i'll try 587
[06:42] <Stava> I just got these messages in dmesg, what is this about? http://pastie.org/1746379
[06:42] <Anakin_n> jlee yes it's fork for me on both ports, but still can lie it to send mail :)
[06:43] <Stava> and my screen is flickering
[06:43] <Anakin_n> jlee trough terminal i mean
[06:44] <linux_inferno> Hey. I am having some issues with my nfs. It seems to be running nfs protocol 4. What do I have to do to get it to run as protocol 3
[06:44] <jlee> Anakin_n brb... cig break...
[06:44] <danileigh79> quit
[06:44] <benzaldehyde> Stava: you and your flickering
[06:44] <benzaldehyde> Stava: :)
[06:44] <Stava> benzaldehyde, what :o
[06:45] <bullgard4> What does an average user need the DEB program package »erlang-base« for? Synaptic: "This package contains the Erlang/OTP runtime implementation, which is configured and built without HiPE support (compiles to byte-code only), and minimal set of Erlang applications:..."
[06:46] <andrew[andrboot]> Hi guys, ive setup my box to auth ldap.. but i want to remove that.. how do i do so?
[06:46] <Zeeshan4u> i want to convert .wav file to .mp3 file in ubuntu. tell me what software to install?
[06:46] <danileigh79> sorry was tired of 4 open terminal windows, opened Terminals instead
[06:46] <ruan> Zeeshan4u: Sound converter
[06:46] <ohsix> bullgard4: look at what deps are bringing it in, aptitude makes it pretty easy
[06:46] <benzaldehyde> Stava: should i use a firewall?
[06:46] <ruan> Zeeshan4u: check ubuntu software center
[06:47] <Stava> benzaldehyde, are we talking about something?
[06:47] <bullgard4> ohsix: Your approach is doomed to failure.
[06:47] <danileigh79> xangua, how do i uninstall after I sudo installed xmms2
[06:47] <ohsix> bullgard4: no u
[06:47] <benzaldehyde> Stava: we weren't, we are now. :D
[06:47] <ohsix> bullgard4: aptitude tells me couchdb uses it, tada
[06:47] <Stava> benzaldehyde, yeah it seems that way
[06:48] <ruan> !info couchdb
[06:48] <benzaldehyde> Stava: your screen is flickering?
[06:48] <Stava> benzaldehyde, yes :(
[06:48] <danileigh79> somebody... how do i uninstall xmms2 after I sudo installed it?
[06:48] <benzaldehyde> Stava: bad luck
[06:49] <ruan> !info couchdb-bin
[06:49] <Stava> benzaldehyde, I get lots of "NVRM: os_raise_smp_barrier(), invalid context!" in my dmesg
[06:49] <Stava> benzaldehyde, i dont think it has to do with luck
[06:49] <ruan> restful database.. pun?
[06:49] <bullgard4> ohsix: Thank you for commenting.
[06:49] <Zeeshan4u> i need .wav to .mp3 convertor. Plz help
[06:49] <ruan> Zeeshan4u: i told you, sound converter
[06:50] <ohsix> bullgard4: KYT
[06:50] <ruan> Zeeshan4u: sudo apt-get install soundconverter && soundconverter
[06:50] <danileigh79> somebody... how do i uninstall xmms2 after I sudo installed it? it's not showing up in software center
[06:50] <ruan> Zeeshan4u: run that in a terminal and you'll get it
[06:51] <henry`> danileigh79, what do you mean sudo installed it?
[06:51] <pc> hi
[06:51] <bullgard4> ohsix: 3-letter acronyms are prone to misunderstanding.
[06:51] <danileigh79> henry`, through terminal, but it's not working so now I wanna delete it
[06:51] <benzaldehyde> Stava: yes technology--digital that is, either works 100 percent of the time or it does not. i read that quote when selecting hdmi cables. i was wondering what in the hell does a 'monster cable' serve a purpose for. turned out it was just a big waste of cable and money since it is digital
[06:51] <xangua> sudo apt-get purge danileigh79
[06:51] <ohsix> bullgard4: i understand them just fine
[06:52] <henry`> danileigh79, if you installed via apt-get, you can run apt-get remove xmms2
[06:52] <ruan> danileigh79: sudo apt-get purge [package]
[06:52] <danileigh79> than k you henry, ruan, and xangua
[06:52] <Zeeshan4u> i have installed adobe reader on my ubuntu 10.10 . but not working. Showing that the sofware is installed but not opening any file.
[06:53] <pc> hello,everyone!where do you come from?
[06:53] <benzaldehyde> Zeeshan4u: are you on x86 architecture?
[06:53] <Zeeshan4u> yes
[06:54] <pc> can you speak chinese?
[06:54] <Stava> benzaldehyde, i've never had anything that works 100 % of the time :o
[06:54] <benzaldehyde> pc: cantonese
[06:55] <benzaldehyde> Stava: the comparison was more about wire cable. on analog signals can be poor and come in at less than 100 percent but digital either comes in all the way or does not
[06:56] <benzaldehyde> Stava: i hate gimmicky sales ads
[06:57] <Stava> benzaldehyde, thats interesting, but i dont think its the hdmi cable that is causing my flickering
[06:57] <benzaldehyde> Stava: but you have checked the wires?
[06:57] <Stava> its probably that nvidia driver
[06:57] <Stava> well im getting dmesg errors that seem to relate to the driver (nvram?)
[06:58] <Stava> nvrm
[06:58] <Anakin_n> jlee repeat pls first question, what finally must work, just sending mail ?
[06:58] <Stava> and each time the screen turns black for a moment i get a new entry in dmesg
[06:59] <viewer> i have two sata drives that i guess ubuntu thinks are external media so the devices show up in the device pane in nautilus but i have to actually click on them after booting for them to mount in /media/, how can i make this automatic?
[06:59] <Stava> i'll just reboot and hope this goes away
[06:59] <navatwo> Hey, so I recently updated my kubuntu box and now I cannot connect to my wired network. /etc/network/interfaces is OK. Any ideas?
[07:00] <ruan> somehow lost connection and had to reboot
[07:00] <cannonfodder> can someone help me ....basically install gone bad...http://pastebin.com/wnzaD5Wr
[07:01] <jlee> Anakin_n yes, sending mail outside of my network does not work. i get timeout message in mail.log
[07:01] <cannonfodder> fail on line 36...cant find a fix for it http://pastebin.com/wnzaD5Wr
[07:01] <jlee> Sending mail to other users on my server works
[07:01] <benzaldehyde> ruan: personally i think someone is messing with your connection, i'm getting random freezes
[07:02] <scabs42> haha I like the addition "NO APRIL FOOLS JOKES"
[07:02] <ruan> benzaldehyde: no one can mess with my connection, it's protected with WPA and a good password
[07:02] <soreau> scabs42: They're not joking either
[07:02] <sevi> hi there, i have question about save programm layouts in ubuntu 10.10, can someone explain how to do that?
[07:02] <benzaldehyde> ruan: i meant remotely
[07:02] <jlee> Apr  1 22:36:14 cannedHeat postfix/smtp[7636]: connect to b.mx.mail.yahoo.com[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25: Connection timed out
[07:03] <ruan> benzaldehyde: remotely?
[07:03] <aauthor> Hi sevi, can you explain what you mean by saving programm layouts?
[07:03] <kingsley> Is anyone going to package the newly GPL'ed "j" programming language?
[07:03] <kingsley> I like to think of "j" as Ken Iverson's swan song, after he won the Turing Award for APL.
[07:03] <benzaldehyde> ruan: over the internet. DOS attack
[07:03] <ruan> benzaldehyde: oh.
[07:03] <ruan> benzaldehyde: how
[07:03] <navatwo> cannonfodder: check if your kernel is supported
[07:03] <ruan> benzaldehyde: no one can see my hostname
[07:03] <navatwo> I don't see why it wuldntbe
[07:03] <benzaldehyde> ruan: and you can crack into wpa if you get close enough
[07:04] <jlee> Anakin_n how do I change to 587
[07:04] <ruan> benzaldehyde: im in an apartment
[07:04] <ruan> benzaldehyde: ohhhh
[07:04] <cannonfodder> navatwo umm how do i look up my kernel version
[07:04] <navatwo> `uname -r`
[07:04] <sevi> i mean, i open Skype, XChat and organise the Windows as i like. Now, i want, that when i startup ubuntu, i opens the Skyp, XChat and arranges the windows as i adjusted it
[07:04] <ruan> benzaldehyde: my router hasn't been connected to though
[07:04] <sevi> is that posiible?
[07:05] <cannonfodder> thans navatwo
[07:05] <ajah>  grub2 complains for syntax error file not found [Linux-bzImage, set= ,size= ] [Initrd, addr= , size =] , i`ve already use updage-grub but still show me this error
[07:05] <benzaldehyde> ruan: the entire point of cracking into wpa is to force a reconnect, that is where it gets the little bits of info to gather, wpa just gives off packets that one could scoop up. your getting DC would be the bet indication that someone was actually in the next apartment trying to reset you
[07:05] <saurabh> this is something worth remembering to do things like the old way of doing things like doing things in a loop \O/
[07:06] <benzaldehyde> *wep just gives off packets
[07:06] <ruan> benzaldehyde: hmm
[07:06] <ruan> benzaldehyde: again, i wish my isp didnt block me from accessing my router
[07:06] <Anakin_n> jlee how you try with mail client or in terminal ?
[07:06] <aauthor> sevi: Yes, you can open up 'Startup Application' it's under System->Administration I think.
[07:06] <benzaldehyde> ruan: wpa is all about the handshake, wep is packets , sorry
[07:06] <ruan> i'd be able to check the logs and block them :/
[07:06] <jlee> Anakin_n: terminal
[07:07] <navatwo> ruan: that doesnt make sense..
[07:07] <cselab> anybody know ver 2 download mysql with all dependencies?
[07:07] <sevi> @ authoor: i have that open. Would be the Windows be arranged correctly? I'll just try that out...
[07:07] <ruan> navatwo: what doesn't?
[07:07] <aauthor> sevi:  There you can add the applications you want to open on start-up.  They will remember where they were located when you last closed them.
[07:07] <navatwo> ruan: that your isp wont let you connect to your router
[07:07] <Anakin_n> jlee it's a little hard :) i'm now trying but info is a lot http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html
[07:07] <sevi> @ authoor: that looks nice, i'll try...
[07:08] <jlee> Anakin_n: no worries, gonna check the link out...
[07:08] <aauthor> sevi:  Good luck! :D
[07:08] <ruan> navatwo: some idiots messed with their routers and had to call the isp to fix it, i think that's why
[07:08] <sevi> @ author: Where can i found the installed Programms? ;-)
[07:09] <navatwo> its not /your/ router?
[07:09] <ruan> navatwo: it is my router
[07:09] <ruan> navatwo: the isp was losing money from that occurring i guess
[07:09] <navatwo> then they can't do that, I believe
[07:09] <Anakin_n> jlee why not try to setup any mail client for TSL 587 , terminal is hard for test :/
[07:10] <rypervenche> I would like to create a user account for a friend to ssh tunnel my Internet connection, but I only want him to have access to his /home/username folder. How can I do this when creating the user account?
[07:10] <ruan> rypervenche: add him to the right groups
[07:11] <jlee> Anakin_n: in the middle of that right now...
[07:11] <rypervenche> ruan: Would I have to chmod my home folder or anything like that?
[07:11] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: you can't. you can protect OTHER /home dirs, but you can't disallow him access from reading system files.
[07:12] <Anakin_n> hamachi and haguichi helps to resolve most of router and tunneling problems...
[07:12] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: if you "chmod og-rwx <dirname>" the other /home dirs, you'll get what you need.
[07:12] <ruan> he may not have write access to system files though
[07:12] <aauthor> sevi:  Most of your programs can be found in /usr/bin
[07:13] <aauthor> If they are in there, you can just simply put there name in the 'Command' field of the add dialogue.
[07:13] <sevi> @ aaouthor: Thanks, got it!
[07:13] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Are there any negative consequences to changing the chmod of my home folder like that?
[07:14] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: well, it means nobody but you have access, so if that's what you want, then it's exactly what to do.
[07:14] <Anakin_n> sevi and you can see list of installed programs in Ubuntu Software Center --> Installed Software
[07:14] <henry`> rypervenche,  read this: http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/openssh/chrootedssh.htm
[07:15] <griffordson> what is the best way to get a version of mysql that fixes this bug running on lucid? http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=48776
[07:15] <benzaldehyde> guys is the encrypted /home that my installation cd actually encrypted? i recall reading that it is mounted and unmounted with a users password which made me think that this was not actually encrypting anything
[07:15] <lonejack> Hi, in UBUNTU future versions (that will adopt Wayland+unity), if I build a sw bu gtkmm, this sw, will continue to be compatible/compilabe  or not?
[07:16] <ajah>  grub2 complains for syntax error file not found [Linux-bzImage, set= ,size= ] [Initrd, addr= , size =] , i`ve already use updage-grub but still show me this error
[07:16] <ruan> lonejack: it should
[07:17] <webPragmatist> normally when uninstalling something like apache2 should i use purge
[07:17] <webPragmatist> i want to be sure and get rid of all the damn configuraiton
[07:17] <webPragmatist> configuration*
[07:17] <Ruge> hello all
[07:17] <benzaldehyde> webPragmatist: that is exactly what purge does
[07:17] <ruan> yep
[07:17] <Ruge> Just bought a new laptop, decided to wipe off Win7 and give ubuntu a go... is it a tough process to get drivers for webcam n stuff or does the livedisc have drivers on it/
[07:18] <ruan> it has drivers for everything
[07:18] <webPragmatist> benzaldehyde: uninstalls and deletes config
[07:18] <webPragmatist> ?
[07:18] <ruan> webPragmatist: yes
[07:18] <Ruge> interesting... i always worry about laptop devices having strange webcams n stuff so it might be hard 2 find
[07:18] <ruan> webPragmatist: man says:            purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and
[07:18] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Would that person be able to sudo and access my stuff?
[07:18] <ruan>            purged (any configuration files are deleted too).
[07:18] <rypervenche> henry`: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[07:19] <ajah>  grub2 complains for syntax error file not found [Linux-bzImage, set= ,size= ] [Initrd, addr= , size =] , i`ve already use updage-grub but still show me this error
[07:19] <aauthor> Ruge:  I'd try booting up a live disk and seeing what 'just works' you'll most likely be pleasantly surprised.
[07:19] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: yes.
[07:19] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: root can always access all files.
[07:19] <ruan> ajah: is the kernel image existent?
[07:19] <ruan> ajah: in /boot
[07:20] <aauthor> Ruge:  and you can do that before you go formating your drive. ;)
[07:20] <Ruge> oo, ill do that then
[07:20] <Ruge> ill dl the 11 beta and give it a whirl
[07:20] <Ruge> :D
[07:20] <ajah> ruan, if u tell how to find this this kernel image knowing only its size in hex will good start
[07:21] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: So if he used sudo, he would just have to use his password to have access to everything, right?
[07:21] <sevi> ok. opening programms works fine. but the windows are not at the right position... also i arranged them on several Desktops, they are all on Desktop 1 (left), is there a way to remeber the Layout?
[07:21] <aauthor> Ruge:  The 11.04 beta1 live disk has some known issues on it.  If you want to see what works well, I'd try 10.04 LTS or 10.10 first.
[07:21] <ohsix> rypervenche: only if he's in the admin group
[07:21] <Ruge> oh okay
[07:21] <Ruge> im looking to make this proper install
[07:21] <Ruge> so ill stick to 10.10
[07:22] <Ell> hi all
[07:22] <Ruge> cuz i dont have good internet where im going to travel
[07:22] <Ruge> and looking for a fast os, hence ubuntu
[07:22] <aauthor> Ruge:  That's a good plan.  While bugs get fixed fast in the beta, you'll need to have internet to grab them.
[07:22] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: yes. if you don't want him to access everything, don't give him sudo rights.
[07:22] <Ruge> now... LTS or regular
[07:22] <Ruge> ive always wondered which one is best haha
[07:23] <webPragmatist> ruan:  purge doesn't seem to remove items dependant though
[07:23] <webPragmatist> like i just did purge apache2 and it didn't remove preform
[07:23] <webPragmatist> fork
[07:23] <Chr|s> is there a ppa with gnome 3?
[07:23] <aauthor> Ruge: LTS stands for Long Term Support.  When it means is that it's not the latest and greatest, but it's the most sturdy and solid.
[07:24] <aauthor> *what
[07:24] <ajah>  grub2 complains for syntax error file not found [Linux-bzImage, set= ,size= ] [Initrd, addr= , size =] , i`ve already use updage-grub but still show me this error
[07:24] <Ruge> aauthor: perfect, thats what im after.. stability
[07:26] <sykes> is there a way to change performance level of gpu while using nouveau driver?
[07:26] <benzaldehyde> ruan: what percentage do you give to /home?
[07:26] <navatwo> Hey, so I recently updated my kubuntu box and now I cannot connect to my wired network. /etc/network/interfaces is OK and `ifconfig` output is located here: ttp://pastebin.com/ZpRhKQjr
[07:27] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: So to give him sudo rights, he has to belong to the admin group, correct? And my home folder is chmod 755 right now, so that means he can look at my stuff, but he can't change it, right?
[07:27] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: dude, with sudo he can do ANYTHING.
[07:28] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: if you don't give him sudo and have 755, he can read but not write it.
[07:29] <ruan> benzaldehyde: ?
[07:29] <benzaldehyde> ruan:  how do you slice your box
[07:29] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Ok, but how do I make sure that I do not give him sudo when I make the account? I'm not sure what activates sudo powers.
[07:29] <ruan> benzaldehyde: i think you mean to talk to rypervenche
[07:29] <benzaldehyde> ruan: why?
[07:30] <ruan> benzaldehyde: well.. why are you asking me?
[07:30] <benzaldehyde> ruan: gather your opinions
[07:30] <ruan> benzaldehyde: oh
[07:30] <benzaldehyde> *gathering
[07:30] <ruan> benzaldehyde: how would i know what my percentage is?
[07:31] <benzaldehyde> ruan:
[07:31] <benzaldehyde> ruan: MB/entire disk times 100
[07:31] <ruan> ohhhhh
[07:31] <aauthor> sevi, Having programs start in different workspaces in beyond anything I've done before; however this is a mention of it in the documentation.  Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75749t
[07:32] <ruan> partition percentages
[07:32] <ruan> my /home and /root and everything is on one partition
[07:33] <benzaldehyde> ruan: same here
[07:33] <ruan> but my /home dir takes up 34.1gb which is about 40% of the drive
[07:34] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: he gets sudo by you entering his account name in /etc/sudoers
[07:34] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: "man sudo" for more information
[07:34] <Jibadeeha> anyone here had success with using upnp in ubuntu?
[07:35] <benzaldehyde> ruan: if you upgrade won't you lose all your /home since / is on the same partition?
[07:35] <ruan> benzaldehyde: how?
[07:35] <SN4K3> encryption in ubuntu?
[07:35] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: SwedeMike Great! Thank you very much :)
[07:35] <ruan> !encrypt | SN4K3
[07:35] <sevi> @ aauthor: thanks for the link! i'll check it out!
[07:36] <benzaldehyde> ruan: i don't know but i was under that impression
[07:36] <ruan> its not like it formats my partition
[07:36] <Hillbilly> I'm a newb installed maverick.
[07:36] <Hillbilly> How do I know which version I have 32/64 bit?
[07:36] <Hillbilly> This may dictate the printer driver I download. Chips are 64 bit.
[07:36] <Hillbilly> 2nd q: Do I need to install motherboard drivers as with MS windows? Are there any? Thanks
[07:36] <FloodBot2> Hillbilly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <Hillbilly> sorry
[07:36] <SN4K3> ruan,was that a command to the bot or smthin?
[07:37] <RaJiL> hi
[07:37] <aauthor> sevi:  No problem, sorry I couldn't help you directly.
[07:37] <ruan> SN4K3: yep, it's a factoid bot
[07:37] <ruan> !ubottu
[07:37] <RaJiL> umm
[07:37] <ljsoftnet> Hillbilly you dont need to install motherboard drivers
[07:37] <Hillbilly> tks
[07:37] <benzaldehyde>  Hillbilly: FloodBot2 is a script he doesn't speak for me
[07:38] <ljsoftnet> Hillbilly check your system monitor for 32 or 64 bit you installed
[07:38] <RaJiL> what version of ubuntu install in my Samsung R540-JA09ES, x86  or x64?
[07:38] <Hillbilly> tks. bye
[07:38] <ruan> RaJiL: how much RAM does it have?
[07:39] <RaJiL> 4GB
[07:39] <ruan> RaJiL: you might want to use 64bit then
[07:39] <ljsoftnet> RaJiL check your System Monitor
[07:39] <ruan> !64bit
[07:39] <Guest5961> 1
[07:39] <RaJiL> Intel Core i3-380M is the processor
[07:40] <ljsoftnet> RaJiL ow ok, my bad
[07:41] <MK`> I need advice: I want to install Ubuntu on an old PC, but the drive only has about 12 GB free, the rest windows using. Then I found an old harddrive, 15 GB. Should I install Ubuntu on that 15GB HD? or should I move files onto the 15GB and make it a shared drive and install Ubuntu on the end of the windows disk? Mainly because this is a computer my family will be using
[07:41] <darkdelusions> RaJiL: to save your self headaches anyways  I would advise agianst using 64 bit
[07:42] <Technicus> Hello, I installed kernel 2.6.33-29-realtime which cured the audio troubles I was experiencing, but at the cost of Nvidia drivers.  The system installed is Ubuntu 10.10 but the kernel is designed for 10.04.  What can I do to get the Nvidia drivers working again?
[07:42] <MK`> I think getting them to select different disks on boot will be harder than selecting different OSes on the same disk
[07:42] <Technicus> Here is where I got the kernel from: [ https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+related-software ].
[07:42] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Oh, quick question. If I changed my home folder's permissions so the person cannot read, say 700, do I have to do it recursively, or would it not even matter since they cannot access the folder?
[07:43] <navatwo> Technicus: system > administration > hardware [or proprietary] drivers
[07:43] <navatwo> it looks like a mobo icon
[07:43] <ruan> or additonal drivers ^
[07:43] <benzaldehyde> MK`: dual use is never a good idea, you can if you keep at it configure ubuntu desktop to be friendly enough for your family to use. what will happen is one OS will be used and the other will get overlooked. use both drives for ubuntu
[07:43] <Technicus> navatwo: ruan: That does not work.
[07:43] <navatwo> Technicus: why?
[07:43] <MK`> The sole program they use that is windows-only is iTunes
[07:44] <ruan> wine will work for that
[07:44] <Technicus> navatwo: I dont know, how can I figure that out?
[07:44] <RaJiL> ok, thanks
[07:44] <navatwo> ruan: you sure
[07:44] <navatwo> Technicus: why do you say it does not work?
[07:44] <ruan> i remember an appdb review
[07:45] <ruan> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21302
[07:45] <MK`> Adding folders, they do that all the time
[07:45] <MK`> What was not tested
[07:45] <MK`>     Synching with iPod/iPhone
[07:45] <MK`> lol
[07:45] <xzcvczx> can someone please tell me where the terminal app is located?
[07:45] <monggo> im coming...
[07:45] <MK`> Accessories
[07:46] <yagoo> xzcvczx, gnome-terminal is one.. it's probably in system
[07:46] <xzcvczx> yagoo: a path would be great
[07:46] <ruan> xzcvczx: also, ctrl alt T
[07:46] <benzaldehyde> MK`: ubunu is bluetooth ready
[07:46] <yagoo> xzcvczx, should be in menu
[07:46] <monggo> with thousands of trouble..
[07:46] <xzcvczx> yagoo: would be great if i had one
[07:46] <xzcvczx> ruan: perfect, thanks
[07:46] <MK`> I dunno...
[07:47] <Technicus> navatwo: because when I attempt to activate the drivers the response is: [ SystemError: installArchives() failed ].
[07:47] <yagoo> xzcvczx, then install.. look up gnome terminal.. or just use tty1 (ctl-alt-f1)
[07:47] <ruan> ctrl alt f1 is a fullscreen terminal
[07:47] <benzaldehyde> MK`: all of internet explorer's upgrades are based on firefox's ideas
[07:47] <yagoo> xzcvczx, ctl-alt-f7 brings back to gui
[07:47] <xzcvczx> yeah i just couldn't be bothered going into console
[07:47] <benzaldehyde> MK`: since the license is free they can copy them and they do
[07:47] <MK`> Oh I know :P
[07:48] <ruan> evil ie :(
[07:48] <benzaldehyde> ruan: :D
[07:48] <Technicus> navatwo: I am sure that because of the kernel change there is a problem.  I had to deactivate the drivers for the new kernel to be able to startX.
[07:48] <ruan> they are indeed copying, i've seen every single feature they copied
[07:48] <xzcvczx> benzaldehyde: and of course firefox has never taken any ideas from ie
[07:49] <yagoo> what's the name of ubuntu's own wip xserver?
[07:49] <ruan> smartscreen is one of them
[07:49] <ruan> wip?
[07:49] <MK`> I do want to keep the XP installation for testing
[07:49] <MK`> as I am a programmer
[07:50] <benzaldehyde> xzcvczx: mozilla i think was around before ie so what microsoft hasn't stolen from xerox is all firefox's as far as i know
[07:50] <yagoo> MK`, XP is not a good platform to program on. XP sux
[07:50] <MK`> but, I'd like the family to use Ubuntu exclusively. Is there another music library thing I can use instead of itunes to use on an ipod?
[07:50] <yagoo> MK`, you sure you're in the right channel?
[07:51] <Technicus> navatwo: I installed kernel 2.6.33-29-realtime because kernel 2.6.35-28-generic will not work with the Tascam US-122L USB audio interface.
[07:51] <MK`> Just looking for advice :P
[07:51] <xzcvczx> benzaldehyde: just because x is older than y it doesn't mean that one stole all from the other and nothing went the other way
[07:51] <benzaldehyde> MK`: no matter how you slice it linux isn't windows, there are always alternatives
[07:51] <fish_sticks> I'm sorry,its nothing related to ubuntu.but,how do I download files from bazaar.launchpad?
[07:51] <MK`> I will take a backseat to any other inportant queries
[07:51] <ohsix> yagoo: those kind of comments aren't topical
[07:51] <yagoo> MK`, you're not a developer. #XP.
[07:51] <rypervenche> If I changed my home folder's permissions so the person cannot read, say 700, do I have to do it recursively, or would it not even matter since they cannot access the folder?
[07:51]  * yagoo doesn't believe itunes is on linux.
[07:52] <rypervenche> MK`: You can use other ones to sync your music, but for syncing applications via iTunes, you have to use iTunes. I have a VM set up just for iTunes. It's the only thing I use it for, haha.
[07:53] <benzaldehyde> xzcvczx: no, certainly not, although it makes it about nine times greater chance that all their ideas are in great thanks to the community
[07:53] <MK`> It's all music, they are ipod nanos
[07:53] <ohsix> rhythmbox and other players support syncing at least music to ipods
[07:53] <ohsix> you can use an ipod specific program to sync other things
[07:53] <soreau> MK`: It's not too much to setup ubuntu on the 15GB drive. Just select manual partitioning when you go to install ubuntu. After you tell it how to set everything up, it will do the rest
[07:54] <soreau> MK`: Especially if it's your first ubuntu install, it wont hurt to just try it on the 15GB drive
[07:54] <MK`> No I have Ubuntu installed on my laptop; stopped using Win7 on that
[07:54] <wildc4rd> can I get a sound/volume button on my top panel?
[07:54] <rypervenche> MK`: You can use Anorak then, I believe it was.
[07:55] <soreau> MK`: Well it's not really more difficult to setup ubuntu on the other drive. You just have to get the partitioning right
[07:55] <MK`> Google says Amarok autocorrect :P
[07:55] <SwedeMike> rypervenche: no, you only have to change your actual home dir.
[07:55] <MK`> I will have no problem setting it up
[07:55] <Anakin_n> jlee any news :) ?
[07:56] <Ell> I have a HDTV video. Which player support it?
[07:56] <ruan> wildc4rd: yes
[07:56] <rypervenche> MK`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[07:56] <ruan> wildc4rd: add indicator applet
[07:56] <jlee> Anakin_n: I can telnet smtp.gmail.com fine. When i send mail, it still seems like it's trying to use 25...
[07:56] <Mathuin> I can use 'time' to see how long a command takes in real and user time.  How can I determine the maximum amount of memory used by a command?
[07:56] <ruan> Ell: VLC should
[07:57] <rypervenche> SwedeMike: Ah ok, great. I was afraid I was going to have to change the chmod of all of my files, that will be no problem then :) Thanks again and sorry for being so bothersome.
[07:57] <MK`> I don't use KDE either :( I use GNOME
[07:57] <jlee> Anakin_n:  Apr  1 23:42:46 cannedHeat postfix/smtp[9306]: connect to alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[<IP_ADDRESS>]:25: Connection timed out
[07:57] <rypervenche> MK`: It works in Gnome too.
[07:57] <domypamypc> list
[07:59] <benzaldehyde> bbl
[08:00] <MK`> "A machine with a crumbling, 15 year-old, slow, 8GB, IDE hard-drive probably won't and doesn't really compare with the netbook anyway. "
[08:00] <MK`> That's a good description of this 15GB HDD
[08:00] <MK`> it came with windows ME
[08:00] <Mathuin> oh hey.  there's bash's builtin time and there's /usr/bin/time
[08:03] <sykes> how to change performance levels with nouveau?
[08:03] <rypervenche> For the group value of chmod, does that mean that someone who is in a group that I am in has access to my things, or that someone who is in the group called "rypervenche" will have access?
[08:05] <Anakin_n> jlee telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
[08:05] <Anakin_n> Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[08:05] <Anakin_n> Connected to gmail-smtp-msa.l.google.com.
[08:05] <Anakin_n> Escape character is '^]'.
[08:05] <Anakin_n> 220 mx.google.com ESMTP x54sm1884015eeh.26
[08:05] <FloodBot2> Anakin_n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:05] <Anakin_n> helo
[08:05] <Ell> ruan: tks
[08:05] <jlee> Anakin_n: I did, it works fine
[08:06] <MKakas> ey i have a problem, i cant connect the irc that i want only this freenode why is that anyone knows?
[08:07] <MKakas> from my iphone
[08:07] <bazhang> MKakas, try in #freenode
[08:07] <jlee> Anakin_n: I keep getting hints from random support sites stating that I have to use relay host...
[08:07] <MKakas> k thx
[08:08] <jlee> Anakin_n: you think that will work?
[08:09] <_Neytiri_> i am gettinghtis error when instaling programs
[08:09] <_Neytiri_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:09] <_Neytiri_>  clamav-freshclam
[08:09] <_Neytiri_>  clamav
[08:09] <_Neytiri_>  clamav-daemon
[08:09] <_Neytiri_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:09] <FloodBot2> _Neytiri_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:09] <jlee> Anakin_n: btw thanks for the help. gotta go though...
[08:10] <_Neytiri_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:10] <ruan> _Neytiri_: why do you want to install clamav?
[08:11] <vanmik> mattmcc: for instace i have this db — http://pastebin.com/76NgSmbv, in result of query i wanna have two lists (arrays) — with group1 titles and with group2 titles
[08:12] <soreau> ruan: Shouldn't we be more concerned about why the package manager is giving errors?
[08:12] <_Neytiri_> i am setting up a mail server
[08:12] <leapy0yo> hi
[08:12] <ruan> ah ok
[08:12] <leapy0yo> is there a way to chown a file that is in userdirectory but owned by root?
[08:13] <soreau> leapy0yo: As user: sudo chown $USER /path/to/file
[08:13] <leapy0yo> soreuau, without invoking root or superuser
[08:15] <bluum> leapy0yo: no. if it's a regular readable file you can copy, unlink, rename.
[08:17] <help-need> i need help
[08:17] <help-need> to re-install grub2 I think
[08:17] <soreau> leapy0yo: If it's owned by root, you must have root privileges to change the ownership
[08:17] <soreau> leapy0yo: Otherwise, it would be a big security problem
[08:17] <_Neytiri_> so how do i fix the problem i am having
[08:18] <soreau> ! grub2 | help-need
[08:18] <soreau> _Neytiri_: Can you pastebin the complete output starting with the command you used to install clamav?
[08:18] <rypervenche> For the group value of chmod, does that mean that someone who is in a group that I am in has access to my things, or that someone who is in the group called "rypervenche" will have access?
[08:18] <help-need> soreau, tks
[08:19] <soreau> rypervenche: The former, if I'm understanding you correctly
[08:20] <_Neytiri_> yes one sec
[08:20] <soreau> _Neytiri_: to paste.ubuntu.com
[08:20] <rww> rypervenche: someone in the group that owns the file, not someone in any group you're in
[08:21] <khrm> I am not being able to trap SIGILL in ubuntu by using expect. The same thing I am being able to do in other distros. Here is line in my expect file:trap quit {INT TERM QUIT ABRT HUP ILL }
[08:21] <_Neytiri_> http://pastebin.com/t7FEUTsG
[08:21] <soreau> khrm: Possible candidate for #ubuntu-devel
[08:22] <soreau> _Neytiri_: Try 'LANG=C apt-get install clamav'
[08:23] <rypervenche> rww: So since my username is rypervenche, it has to be someone in the group "rypervenche"?
[08:23] <rww> rypervenche: yup
[08:23] <_Neytiri_> nope did hte same thing
[08:23] <_Neytiri_> well shorter actualy
[08:23] <soreau> _Neytiri_: Does 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade' return without error?
[08:24] <soreau> _Neytiri_: Also, you might want to run apt-get autoremove
[08:24] <soreau> clean things up a bit
[08:24] <_Neytiri_> apt-get update W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[08:24] <rypervenche> rww: soreau: Great, thank you :)
[08:24] <Anakin_n> _Neytiri_ do you have active process clamav now ?
[08:24] <soreau> _Neytiri_: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:24] <ohsix> khrm: apport and the core/exception setup might have something to do with that
[08:24] <_Neytiri_> 10.4
[08:24] <soreau> ! who | _Neytiri_
[08:26] <help-need> soreau, there is no  EASY WAY ?
[08:26] <help-need> SORRy for caps
[08:26] <soreau> help-need: Reinstalling grub2 is about is easy as it gets when following that guide
[08:27] <soreau> _Neytiri_: If you run 'gksu software-properties-gtk' and look in the Other Software tab, do you have anything enabled other than lucid standard repos?
[08:28] <soreau> Is there a way to remove all kernels except the currently running one? (with a one-liner)
[08:29] <khrm> ohsix I have apport disabled.
[08:32] <BlackWeb>  soreau ya
[08:33] <BlackWeb> go to /boot/ and remove all versions you dont want
[08:33] <siddhantchd> guys need some help  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10626801
[08:33] <BlackWeb> Help with what
[08:34] <siddhantchd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10626801 this thing BlackWeb
[08:36] <siddhantchd> BlackWeb anything?
[08:38] <nesbitt> i want to make a full backup of a netbook, which is dual booted with android and windows 7, and then install linux on it.  would doing a dd of the whole disk to an external drive give me what i need to recover the current setup?
[08:39] <help-need> soreau, the root directory is the /boot partition right ?
[08:39] <xzcvczx> nesbitt: it would
[08:39] <nesbitt> xzcvczx: awesome, so then to recover i just dd the whole thing back?
[08:39] <xzcvczx> help-need: err what?
[08:39] <xzcvczx> nesbitt: indeed
[08:39] <BlackWeb> Still Checking it out
[08:40] <soreau> help-need: The root directory is /
[08:40] <help-need> Now that everything is mounted, we just need to reinstall GRUB by specifying the correct directory and the correct drive name: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda
[08:40] <nesbitt> xzcvczx: cool, thanks.  i'll look into how to do it
[08:40] <soreau> help-need: But if you're on a live cd, you'll have to mount and chroot into the partition most likely
[08:40] <Danielcg25> I hate GRUB.
[08:40] <help-need> soreau, in the options of grub-install root-directory is the boot right
[08:40] <help-need> ?
[08:41] <xzcvczx> dd if=/dev/xdy of=blah.raw bs=<choose a size>
[08:41] <xzcvczx> replace xdy with harddrive name
[08:41] <xzcvczx> well identifier
[08:42] <xzcvczx> Danielcg25: better than lyelow at least
[08:42] <help-need> soreau, not really that tutorial about recovery grub is weird
[08:42] <Danielcg25> lyelow?
[08:42] <help-need> Im not expert enough to follow it
[08:42] <xzcvczx> phonetic it out and you will see :P
[08:42] <soreau> help-need: You have to read it and follow the instructions
[08:43] <Danielcg25> I prefer Windows bootloader, (just because I'm used to it, probably)
[08:43] <siddhantchd> help please guys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10626801
[08:43] <BlackWeb> help-need you trying to restore you grub right
[08:43] <xzcvczx> yeah the windows one is great if something goes wrong and you actually need it
[08:44] <xzcvczx> computer crashed -> safe mode -> computer crash -> head between legs kiss donkey goodbye
[08:44] <help-need> BlackWeb, right
[08:44] <help-need> BlackWeb, right grub2
[08:44] <BlackWeb> help-need, you in livecd
[08:44] <BlackWeb> right now
[08:44] <help-need> yes
[08:44] <soreau> help-need: Tell us which part you are stuck on
[08:44] <BlackWeb> K the easyiest way to do it is first mount drive
[08:45] <xzcvczx> siddhantchd: well first thing fix up the 403 link
[08:45] <BlackWeb> So Windows Took it out right
[08:45] <Guest45412> Need help regarding ATI 4350 driver. When it was enabled, all my windows were showing black glitches, after disabling the driver, its working fine. Any way to use the driver?
[08:45] <help-need> BlackWeb, Wich drive ? I have many partitions .. boot system home etc
[08:45] <siddhantchd> actually i hv written the error down
[08:46] <BlackWeb> no wait, go to System -> Administration - > Partition Editor
[08:46] <Guest45412> Need help regarding ATI 4350 driver. When it was enabled, all my windows were showing black glitches, after disabling the driver, its working fine. Any way to use the driver?
[08:46] <xzcvczx> siddhantchd: and this is irc not text messaging... you don't have to buy a vowel
[08:47] <help-need> BlackWeb, gparted ?
[08:47] <BlackWeb> ya
[08:47] <help-need> ok, open it
[08:47] <siddhantchd> xzcvczx sorry bro
[08:47] <BlackWeb> ya
[08:47] <vallhalla> Hello all
[08:47] <khepin> hello
[08:47] <Vimk> Is there some way to speed up banshee, pauses between songs last 2-3 seconds
[08:47] <xzcvczx> siddhantchd: so whats the error?
[08:47] <Vimk> I assume because of sqlite
[08:47] <khepin> I have an apache server set on ubuntu in a VM
[08:48] <BlackWeb> Now how many HardDrives Does your system have, Browse to the hardDrive with linux on
[08:48] <khepin> and trying to access that apache from outside the VM
[08:48] <Guest45412> Need help regarding ATI 4350 driver. When it was enabled, all my windows were showing black glitches, after disabling the driver, its working fine. Any way to use the driver?
[08:48] <khepin> right now the connection will just "take too long to respond"
[08:48] <help-need> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/boot /dev/sda
[08:48] <khepin> and timeout
[08:48] <help-need> Installation finished. No error reported. I take a the shot, you think it works ? I have only one harddrive, wich many partitions BlackWeb
[08:48] <siddhantchd> xzcvczx  Check the DevicePath of /etc/ccpd.conf
[08:48] <vallhalla> khepin: what mode is the network adapter in?
[08:48] <xzcvczx> khepin: it sounds like you are having issues with the virtualisation software not ubuntu
[08:49] <BlackWeb> K now do you see BootFlag
[08:49] <BlackWeb> or Flags
[08:49] <khepin> that is possible, but I have to start looking from somewhere haha ;-)
[08:49] <xzcvczx> siddhantchd: and what is the devicepath in /etc/ccpd.conf
[08:49] <vallhalla> khepin: what mode is the network adapter in?
[08:49] <khepin> not sure how to answer this
[08:49] <BlackWeb> Change the Flags To Boot To Linux Not Windows Partition
[08:49] <Guest45412> Need help regarding ATI 4350 driver. When it was enabled, all my windows were showing black glitches, after disabling the driver, its working fine. Any way to use the driver?
[08:49] <help-need> BlackWeb, yes, /dev/sda1 is with the boot flag ...
[08:49] <help-need> ok
[08:50] <BlackWeb> k so /dev/sda1 is your linux
[08:50] <vallhalla> khepin: ok go to virtualbox and the settinggs of the machine
[08:50] <help-need> BlackWeb, to the /boot partition ?
[08:50] <khepin> ah, ok, maybe I expressed my self too quickly
[08:50] <khepin> my host is a windows 7, and ubuntu runs inside a vmware
[08:50] <BlackWeb> Ya, the Partition that you installed grub on initially
[08:50] <siddhantchd> xzcvczx http://pastebin.com/bsQ95E3z
[08:51] <BlackWeb> Set The Flag to Boot
[08:51] <help-need> BlackWeb, Grub it self I winstall on mbr I think
[08:51] <xzcvczx> khepin: you running desktop or server?
[08:51] <Monona> How do I turn off updates, etc, temporarily?  I'm using Lucid.
[08:51] <khepin> desktop
[08:51] <xzcvczx> then its not problem with ubuntu
[08:51] <benzaldehyde> How 'should' one pronounce IRSSI?
[08:51] <khepin> ubuntu is pingable from the windows host
[08:52] <xzcvczx> I R S S I
[08:52] <BlackWeb> help-need look to the left panel and theres a window with messages from me
[08:52] <xzcvczx> siddhantchd: open a terminal and go "ls /dev/usb/lp0"
[08:52] <BlackWeb> do you see it, Lets talk in there
[08:52] <benzaldehyde> xzcvczx: seems a bit militant that way even IUPAC has eye-yoo-pack
[08:52] <khepin> ok, I need to check more before I ask questions here, I think it's a virtual host issue cause with the ip itself I can access my server
[08:53] <khepin> thanks xzcvzx
[08:53] <xzcvczx> khepin: can you ssh to the ubuntu box
[08:53] <benzaldehyde> double thanks
[08:53] <help-need> BlackWeb, Im using a very weird xchat version ... Im not seen a privete message here
[08:53] <siddhantchd> xzcvczx is giving this /dev/usb/lp0
[08:53] <xzcvczx> benzaldehyde: well some nods call it errssi but thats just scrwed
[08:53] <BlackWeb> type /msg BlackWeb To Start Private
[08:54] <xzcvczx> siddhantchd: meh no idea then, probably best to just hope for a reply on forums
[08:54] <BlackWeb> so Something like  "/msg BlackWeb  hey" To Start Private
[08:54] <benzaldehyde> xzcvczx: i use to think vi was pronounced vee, it is literally vee-eye to my dismay
[08:54] <siddhantchd> okie thank you xzcvczx
[08:55] <xzcvczx> benzaldehyde: can also be pronounced vile
[08:55] <xzcvczx> :P
[08:56] <benzaldehyde> xzcvczx: it is vile, nano for me
[08:56] <siddhantchd> anyone here help me with the installation of canon LBP2900 printer
[08:56] <xzcvczx> siddhantchd: i said probably best to hope for reply on forum
[08:56] <siddhantchd> ok
[08:56] <siddhantchd> just trying maybe someone can help here alao
[08:56] <xzcvczx> benzaldehyde: echo ftw
[08:57] <siddhantchd> echo ftw
[08:57] <xzcvczx> well there wasn't 10mins ago and 2mins before that and 3mins before that
[08:58] <Rehan> is there anything for ubuntu to make it so you don't have to find the exact pixel on the corner of a window to resize the window?
[08:58] <Dice-Man> Rehan: what do you wanna do ?
[08:58] <xangua> alt+middle clic Rehan
[08:59] <aauthor> Rehan: alt_middle click
[08:59] <Rehan> xangua: i'm on a laptop, middle clicking isn't really easy to do, any alternative? thx
[08:59] <Rehan> aauthor: i'm in the same room as xangua. I can see what he wrote :P
[09:00] <xzcvczx> Rehan: hmm can't say it requires "exact pixel" for me
[09:00] <alexandrosgr> hello
[09:00] <marvin_> good morning everybody.
[09:00] <alexandrosgr> When i type in youtube search the text is invisible
[09:00] <crlcan81> Does anyone else have issues with flash video on youtube itself, for videos that work perfectly fine on other sites with youtube content embedded, and work fine on html5 trial. This is using both the standard 32 bit installer, and the 64 bit alpha as I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit with proposed updates, and it was doing this before proposed updates were installed.
[09:00] <aauthor> Rehan: What theme are you using?
[09:00] <marvin_> I am trying to grap a dd image of my hard discs and put them on a USB disk
[09:00] <Rehan> xzcvczx: the bottom right corner usually allows more space, but the other 3 corners seem to be really picky about it.
[09:01] <marvin_> But for any reason this is really really slow
[09:01] <Rehan> aauthor: the default one that comes with ubuntu 10.10
[09:01] <alexandrosgr> ??
[09:01] <Rehan> aauthor: didn't change anything
[09:01] <crlcan81> ok that was f'n awesome. I just did super+middle click accidentally.
[09:01] <marvin_> 500GB ofer USB 2.0 high speed should only take about 3 hours
[09:01] <xzcvczx> marvin_: what bs did you choose?
[09:01] <aauthor> Rehan: Hmm, I just noticed what you mean.
[09:01] <marvin_> in dd I specified 512 bytes
[09:01] <xzcvczx> marvin_: haha well thers you problem
[09:02] <xzcvczx> theres your*
[09:02] <Rehan> aauthor: yeah, huge usability flop
[09:02] <trance> ok i'm having an issue with 11.04 (yes i know it's beta), and ics
[09:02] <xzcvczx> Rehan: well the bottom right is the normal
[09:02] <alexandrosgr> anyone help me?
[09:02] <xzcvczx> trance: #ubuntu+1
[09:02] <alexandrosgr> with invisible text in youtube search
[09:03] <marvin_> which block size should I use instead?
[09:03] <Danielcg25> !Ubuntu
[09:03] <Rehan> xzcvczx: yeah, i don't see why only one corner can be used to resize. Windows has been able to do it pretty well for the last 18 years or so :P
[09:03] <crlcan81> This is in firefox 4 that I'm having the problem with flash videos.
[09:03] <Danielcg25> !wtf
[09:03] <oCean> alexandrosgr: what os version, what browser (and version) are you using? T
[09:03] <Danielcg25> lol
[09:03] <marvin_> xzcvczx: Which blocksize shoudl I use instead?
[09:03] <xzcvczx> Rehan: yet they managed to get EVERYTHING else wrong
[09:03] <alexandrosgr> ubuntu 10 firefox 4
[09:03] <xzcvczx> marvin_: at least a few meg
[09:04] <aauthor> Rehan: It seems to be a well known "bug" discussed on launchpad.
[09:04] <aauthor> Rehan: Alt+F8 is another option though
[09:04] <ohsix> Rehan: there are keys you can press to resize/move windows from anywhere in their area :D
[09:04] <marvin_> xzcvczx: I thought I need to use the physical block size of my disc. Will the image still be exactly the same?
[09:04] <Rehan> xzcvczx: thats probably true, but when it comes to usability, ubuntu seems to be playing catchup. :) oh well.
[09:04] <Rehan> aauthor: thank you
[09:04] <xzcvczx> marvin_: yes
[09:04] <aauthor> Rehan: No problem. :D
[09:05] <marvin_> xzcvczx: well than thanks for your help :)
[09:05]  * crlcan81 waits patiently as he can having drank a bit too much caffeine for someone on a glucose/insulin pill.
[09:05] <alexandrosgr> so?
[09:05] <xzcvczx> marvin_: a putt load of 512 bytes requres a putt load of control packets
[09:05] <aauthor> Rehan: And that shortcut can be changed in Keyboard Shortcuts if you so choose.
[09:06] <truepurple_> .
[09:06] <Rehan> aauthor: very helpful, thank you :)
[09:06] <oCean> alexandrosgr: ff4 is not supported on current ubuntu 10
[09:06]  * xzcvczx is getting ready to stab the person playing Crap music
[09:06] <truepurple_> Someone said that ubuntu 64bit is has a fair amount of issues, would you guys agree?
[09:07] <oCean> xzcvczx: please don't do that in this channel
[09:07] <Axlin> issues like what? i haven't really noticed anything in the last 2 years of using it (x64)
[09:07] <truepurple_> 10.10?
[09:07] <oCean> truepurple_: I agree with Axlin
[09:07] <truepurple_> 10.10?
[09:07] <marvin_> xzcvczx: in the mount table I see that the usb disk is mounted with a block size of 4k
[09:07] <aauthor> truepurple:  The only thing I've noticed is that flash can be a little laggy at times, but that's an adobe lack-of-support issue.
[09:08] <ruan> flash runs perfectly fine here
[09:08] <marvin_> xzcvczx: So should this be a desirable dd block size as well
[09:08] <xzcvczx> marvin_: i really don't care what block size its mounted with
[09:08] <xzcvczx> marvin_: but if you want it to finish in your lifetime i would advise higher
[09:08] <aauthor> ruan:  did you do anything special or did it just work?
[09:08] <Rehan> does anyone have a spec list of new hardware that I could buy if I wanted to build a desktop computer in which everything was 100% compatible with Ubuntu? Maybe its just my bad luck but over the last 3 years every laptop I've ever had always had problems being compatible with Ubuntu
[09:08] <ruan> aauthor: just worked
[09:08] <Axlin> i've noticed that adobe's latest flash version to have improved performance a bit. still not perfect, though. and in ff4, i get artifacts while watching videos. that's solved with the 64 bit preview of flash player for linux though
[09:09] <truepurple_> aauthor oC
[09:09] <oCean> !hcl | Rehan
[09:09] <aauthor> Hmm, maybe it's a mental thing for me then. ;)
[09:09] <oCean> truepurple_: any version in last 2,5 year. No issues
[09:10] <truepurple_> Axlin: How do i check what version I have?
[09:10] <truepurple_> Axlin: I mean of flash
[09:10] <aauthor> truepurple_: I use 10.10 x64
[09:10] <ohsix> truepurple_: about:plugins, or adobes version checker
[09:10] <Axlin> i wouldn't say so, aauthor. being a user of linux, os x, and windows, i can definitely see that the linux version is much slower :P it's been getting better, though
[09:10] <ralph> uname -r
[09:10] <ohsix> Axlin: on the same machine?
[09:10] <aauthor> Good to know I'm not going crazy then Axlin
[09:11] <Axlin> truepurple: in terminal: dpkg -l flash*
[09:11] <ohsix> Axlin: flash is way slower in safari it's almost a joke :D
[09:11] <tunavision> how do i turn on timestamp in xchat?
[09:11] <ruan> hmm. i'll report ram and cpu usage of flash here
[09:11] <Rehan> oCean: wow, no sony laptops are on that list at all
[09:11] <Axlin> ohsix: i have a desktop that dual boots windows and kubuntu, and a laptop that dual boots os x and xubuntu
[09:11] <xzcvczx> ohsix: which is rather funny as apple would be rather stuffed if adobe decided to stop make all their products for mac
[09:11] <ohsix> (it's worse in safari cuz you can't really block it without disabling it)
[09:11] <ruan> 39% cpu and 30 mb of ram, youtube video
[09:12] <xzcvczx> making*
[09:12] <ohsix> it's not objectively worse, maybe a few percent if it's just one instance compared across platforms
[09:12] <ruan> no problem with the video, no choppiness etc
[09:12] <Rehan> any idea how well Ubuntu runs on macbook pros?
[09:12] <truepurple_> ohsix: Shockwave Flash 10.2 r153, that the latest experimental one?
[09:13] <Axlin> Rehan: i would imagine pretty well. my laptop is a 2006 macbook (non-pro). but it runs xubuntu perfectly. only thing that doesn't work is the webcam
[09:13] <ohsix> truepurple_: no idea
[09:13] <oCean> Rehan: well, it is just a list of "certified" hw. Lots (and lots) of other machines work very well with ubuntu
[09:13] <ralph> anyone know how to report a bug....and the fix to it? I got both but no idea where to put it
[09:13] <ohsix> Axlin: does it not have the chicony webcam?
[09:13] <ruan> im on flash <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:13] <Ell> Why my flash plug-in always crash?
[09:13] <oCean> !bug | ralph
[09:13] <xzcvczx> ralph: whats the bug for?
[09:13] <Rehan> Axlin: i see. why do you use xubuntu instead of ubuntu if you don't mind me asking. I'm a complete noob.
[09:13] <ruan> no crashing here
[09:13] <Axlin> not sure ohsix. haven't really looked into it (don't use it often)
[09:14] <ralph> okay thanks
[09:14] <ralph> its a vaio webcam no detection bug
[09:14] <Axlin> Rehan: i use it just because my macbook is on the slow side. i could probably use gnome just as well, though. but this gave me a chance to try out xfce
[09:14] <ralph> thought its gonna be fixed in 11.04 cause relatively easy but still no detection without fixing it
[09:15] <xzcvczx> Axlin: lol i have a mini from early '06 and it still runs snow leopard with a vm running ubuntu fine :P
[09:15] <Axlin> hehe yeah i believe you xzcvczx. but i was getting irritated with how slow snow leopard was compared to kubuntu on my desktop. plus, i was simply growing partial to linux in general
[09:16] <xzcvczx> Axlin: i am sort of moving in that direction due to apples idea they can now charge for anything and everything
[09:16] <Axlin> yeah. i'm not really a fan of apple's recent direction either
[09:16] <truepurple_> Axlin: Is Shockwave Flash 10.2 r153 the latest version?
[09:17] <Axlin> truepurple: i believe so. that's the version i have installed
[09:17] <truepurple_> Axlin: You find the one meant for 64bit to work better?
[09:18] <Axlin> truepurple_: only in firefox 4, for me personally. i was getting all kinds of strange artifacts while watching embedded videos. that's gone with the 64b version
[09:18] <truepurple_> Axlin: Someone here told me once that the 64bit actually didn't work so well, and I should go to 32
[09:18] <Axlin> though in any other browser, the regular one worked just fine
[09:18] <Axlin> dunno. the 64 bit preview version has been working quite well for me so far. your mileage may vary though :P
[09:19] <truepurple_> How do I check if I have autoupdate of ubuntu on?
[09:19] <amalgama> when i type in the search box of youtube i cant see the letters... i changed the theme of the browser but nothing... any ideas?
[09:19] <ruan> amalgama: and your theme?
[09:19] <Axlin> it should be enabled by default, checking daily. if you're unsure, open update manager, and check your settings
[09:19] <ruan> amalgama: ubuntu theme
[09:20] <ruan> amalgama: what colour is the text in your theme?
[09:20] <amalgama> ruan: my theme?? you mean my desktop theme's ??
[09:20] <truepurple_> ohsix: How do I check if I have autoupdate of ubuntu on?
[09:20] <ruan> amalgama: yes
[09:20] <Axlin> it should be enabled by default, checking daily. if you're unsure, open update manager, and check your settings <- truepurple_
[09:20] <ruan> amalgama: the colour of text
[09:21] <vhd> what is the "command" to open a terminal?
[09:21] <ruan> vhd: gnome-terminal or ctrl alt t
[09:21] <vhd> ruan, thanks
[09:21] <vlt> Hello. I want to capture a small sequence of screenshots and save them as .gif (please dont' ask why ;-)   Any idea how to achieve this?
[09:21] <amalgama> ruan: give me a minute
[09:21] <truepurple_> Axlin: If it is enabled, why should I check daily? Where is update manager?
[09:22] <Axlin> truepurple_: no, i mean the default is that it automatically checks daily. update manager is in system -> administration (i believe... i'm actually using xubuntu at the moment)
[09:22] <vlt> So, what is the shell command to take and save a screenshot?
[09:22] <Axlin> truepurple_: you can also open it with alt+f2, enter "update-manager" without quotes
[09:23] <xzcvczx> vlt: gnome-screenshot might be able to do it from vmdline
[09:23] <vlt> xzcvczx: Thanks, I'll try.
[09:23] <ruan> vlt: you can use printscreen on the keyboard
[09:24] <xzcvczx> vlt: other wise i am sure there are plenty in the package manager for it
[09:24] <xzcvczx> ruan: lol i forgot about printscrn button... i haven't had one in years
[09:24] <vlt> ruan: But that doesn't save it. (And I dont want to hit that key 50 times every 50 ms ...)
[09:25] <ruan> ah
[09:25] <ruan> you can also convert a video into a set of .gifs
[09:25] <truepurple_> Axlin: Ok I got update manager up, but I don't see if its set to update daily or not. When I click on settings it asks for a password and does not accept mine
[09:25] <ruan> record desktop > convert to gif
[09:25] <xzcvczx> truepurple_: well are you able to sudo to root?
[09:26] <truepurple_> xzcvczx: I don't know what that means
[09:26] <ruan> truepurple_: gksudo update-manager
[09:26] <xzcvczx> truepurple_: who set up your computer?
[09:26] <truepurple_> xzcvczx: I did
[09:26] <vlt> ruan: record using wich tool?
[09:26] <ruan> vlt: not sure, but there are some in the repos
[09:26] <aauthor> Ubuntu 11.04 has aero snap-esque functionality built in?!  What's more surprising is I've been using it for a month, and just now noticed.
[09:27] <xzcvczx> aauthor: aero snap-esque?
[09:27] <akashm1990> any way to have all terminals set to root permanently? Or a single command which sets the current terminal to root?
[09:27] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: you do NOT want all terminals as root
[09:27] <soreau> aauthor: Your welcome ;)
[09:27] <xzcvczx> there is a reason that its not in the first place
[09:27] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: and sudo su -
[09:27] <truepurple_> ruan: Ok that terminal command worked, but how come the gui interface didn't work
[09:27] <xzcvczx> but be careful
[09:28] <Vizirka> fuckbuntu?
[09:28] <ralph> about the bug reporting...turns out my little add on is not considered a bug but I suppose a driver issue...where would I report that?
[09:28] <soreau> ! language | Vizirka
[09:28] <xzcvczx> and don't come crying here when you kill your system
[09:28] <akashm1990> sudo su -   it will set the current window to root?  xzcvczx
[09:28] <aauthor> xzcvczx: Where you drag a window to the left or right side, and it's resized to take up that half of the screen, and when you drag it to the top, it maximizes the window.
[09:28] <Vizirka> ubuttu hush now baby, don't you cry!
[09:28] <oCean> akashm1990: use 'sudo -i' to invoke rootshell
[09:28] <truepurple_> xzcvczx: Are you talking to me?
[09:28] <oCean> Vizirka: do you have a support question?
[09:28] <xzcvczx> truepurple_: no
[09:29] <Danielcg25> Vizirka: eat a burrito.
[09:29] <Vizirka> Yes oCean bro
[09:29] <akashm1990> oCean, Thanks
[09:29] <ralph> does anyone know?
[09:29] <Vizirka> Danielcg25 bro wtf?
[09:29] <akashm1990> xzcvczx, If i am the only user of the computer, can having permanent root still break it?
[09:29] <oCean> Vizirka: stop that language please
[09:29] <xzcvczx> ralph: well does it have an upstream from ubuntu?
[09:29] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: yes
[09:29] <truepurple_> Axlin: Can you help me figure out why I can't access it through menu?
[09:29] <Vizirka> oCean bruder it is english
[09:30] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: aka you can break it
[09:30] <Danielcg25> Vizirka: burritos are yummy
[09:30] <ralph> xzcvczx: what do you mean with upstream?
[09:30] <pkkm> How to remove all lines shorter than 3 characters from a file?
[09:30] <Vizirka> I hate the mexician foods
[09:30] <ralph> im new to ubuntu lol
[09:30] <spirals> akashm1990, yeah, you don't want or need to be root, use the proper privilege elevation methods for the task
[09:30] <akashm1990> xzcvczx, ok, will not do it then. I thought root was something like UAC in Vista
[09:30] <xzcvczx> ralph: well unless its made by canonical its made by someone else and appropriated by ubuntu
[09:30] <Vizirka> ikonia bruder wake up puppetboy, please!
[09:31] <spirals> akashm1990, UAC equivalent is sudo or gksudo basically
[09:31] <spirals> !sudo
[09:31] <Antonis> the clock on gnome-panel has stopped work and I don't know why. every time I kill the panel it updates itself as the panel reopens but it stays as it is no seconds changing nothing.. could someone pls help me?
[09:31] <scabs42> @Antonis try restarting
[09:31] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: you can do nasty things like <DONT DO THIS>"rm -rf /"</DONT DO THIS> as root
[09:31] <Axlin> truepurple_: if you're the one who set up your account, it shouldn't be rejecting your password if you're typing it correctly
[09:32] <soreau> ! resetpanel | Antonis
[09:32] <Vizirka> I think ubuntu without KDE very well. With KDE ( dirty dozen of bugz ) not useable
[09:32] <aauthor> akashm1990: If you cat walks on your keyboard, you don't want to accidentally format your hardrive. ;)
[09:32] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: or <DONT DO THIS>cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdaN</DONT DO THIS>
 well that's the thing though, I went through forums and many people with a vaio have that issue...and I the fix so I think some developers should take a look at it and include it to the drivers package
[09:33] <Axlin> truepurple_: or did i just misinterpret your problem?
[09:33] <truepurple_> Axlin: I am typing it in correctly, and it works fine if I use gksudo update-manager, if I use that command it asks for my password before it loads update manager. If I use menu, it asks for a password when I click on settings, and I am SURE I have the right password, absolutely positive
[09:33] <Danielcg25> Vizirka: Than eat a "taco". (notice the ""'s)
[09:33] <xzcvczx> ralph: hence it goes to who made the drivers package for it.... not ubuntu/canonical
[09:33] <ralph> ....if that is how things go here. I'm not sure haha
[09:33] <Antonis> thanks guys
[09:33] <akashm1990> xzcvczx, Commands seem interesting to read, Does the 1st one delete the current working directory and the second one format a partition?
[09:33] <ma3x> hi why doesn't ubuntu recognize surfsticks as /dev/ttyUSBn? how can i make it work
[09:33] <Axlin> truepurple_: is it rejecting your password when you click the settings button then?
[09:34] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: the first one nukes everything on your hard drive
 yeah but there must be some place to um..post it haha
[09:34] <xzcvczx> well all the partitions that are mounted
[09:34] <Vizirka> Danielcg25 brother no. But give me boutils of Tequila
[09:34] <oCean> Vizirka: please stop
[09:34] <xzcvczx> and the 2nd one will overwrite the partition with random numbers
[09:34] <Vizirka> oCean bro: Have you any problem?
[09:34] <truepurple_> Axlin: When I go through menu, if I use the command instead, it asks for the password before loading update manager, accepts that password, and does NOT ask for a password when I click on settings
[09:34] <akashm1990> xzcvczx, definitely deserves the <DONT DO THIS> tags then
[09:35] <xzcvczx> ralph: well if you look at what package the drivers came in it will say what the website for them are
[09:36] <Axlin> truepurple_: but it accepts the password either way? if that's the case, then the reason is that using 'gksu update-manager', you're launching with root permissions to begin with. otherwise, it's launching without those privileges and has to ask you for them after you click the settings button
[09:36] <xzcvczx> akashm1990: although be aware gettings roots as easy as restarting your computer :P
[09:36] <chicognu> Folks I forgot the name the guy who is trying to help me wih grub, One of they are BlackWeb and the other I forgot. Anyway Thanks to both
[09:36] <truepurple_> Axlin: No, it does NOT accept the correct password if I go through menu
[09:37] <Vizirka> Justice and Freedom for Palestina
[09:37] <ruan> truepurple_: did you try gksudo update-manager
[09:37] <truepurple_> ruan yes, I said I did
[09:37] <xzcvczx> Vizirka: shut the fridge up
 I think you misunderstood me. Everything is fine running Vista...yest Ubuntu has issues picking up the camera as it recognizes it while not being able to work with it in neither Cheese, nor Skype, or whatever camera bound program you wanna use
[09:37] <Axlin> truepurple_: oh, that's odd. i'm not sure why that is then
[09:38] <Vizirka> xzcvxzx are you da cionist? Elil Allhu Akhbar!
[09:38] <oCean> !ops | Vizirka
[09:38] <Vizirka> The Holy Djihad starting again:)
[09:38] <Vizirka> oCean bro stop that espionnage
[09:38] <pksadiq> Vjzirka this is not such a channel, just stop that, I'm too a muslim
[09:38] <oCean> Vizirka: as soon as you leave this channel
[09:39] <xzcvczx> ralph: whats that got to do with anything.... its obvisouly an issue with the linux drivers
[09:39] <xzcvczx> and who in their right mind still/ever ran/runs vista
 alright. then my question again...where to post the fix? so I'm not the only one using it
[09:39] <Vizirka> oCean bro: as soon I will fuck you
[09:39] <xzcvczx> ralph: i have told you look who the hell the driver comes from
[09:39] <xzcvczx> i aint going to be your lakky
[09:39] <FloodBot2> xzcvczx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:39] <ralph> been on mint before, vista is just the factory os
[09:40] <sykes> how to change performance levels with nouveau?
[09:40] <sykes> ?
[09:40] <akashm1990> Channel emergency?
[09:40] <ma3x> hi why doesn't ubuntu recognize surfsticks as /dev/ttyUSBn? how can i make it work
[09:40] <A_J> hey how can i use a cue file in ubuntu ?
[09:41] <sykes> is there a way to change performance level of gpu while using nouveau driver?
[09:41] <sykes> ?
[09:41] <truepurple_> Axlin: Might anyone here be able to help me?
[09:41] <xzcvczx> A_J: google for a bin2iso converter
[09:41] <xzcvczx> ma3x: try google
[09:41] <ma3x> i tried google
[09:41] <ma3x> kernel doesnt assign usbtty to stick
[09:42] <ruan> A_J: try furius iso mount or acetoneiso
[09:42] <A_J> xzcvczx I mean cue file which are in mp3's
[09:42] <ruan> A_J: uh..
[09:42] <A_J> one sec
[09:43] <ruan> A_J: try to open them with a media player?
[09:43] <pksadiq> ma3x try configin modem as YOURS in wvdial
[09:43] <A_J> ruan rythum box ?
[09:43] <Axlin> truepurple_: i'm afraid i don't know of anybody personally. your best bet would be to ask why update manager is rejecting your password
[09:43] <ruan> A_J: try it
[09:43] <A_J> kk
[09:44] <truepurple_> Axlin: It only does it if I go through the menu though. Synaptic package manager does the same thing too
[09:45] <Axlin> truepurple_: it looks like this may be your issue here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/90324
[09:47] <kkristof_> anyone know when the 11.04 will be releasing?
[09:47] <truepurple_> Axlin: System-> administration-> login screen had this issue, but since then has changed.
[09:47] <cdbs> kkristof_: April 28th
[09:47] <kkristof_> thanks
[09:47] <xzcvczx> kkristof_: read the release schedule
[09:47] <pksadiq> !11.04
[09:47] <ruan> kkristof_: also, !$releaseversion as above^
[09:47] <ralph> truepurple: sudo passwd root
[09:47] <A_J> ruan
[09:47] <oCean> ralph: do not suggest that
[09:47] <A_J> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cue
[09:48] <ralph> not?
[09:48] <oCean> ralph: no, it is not supported
[09:48] <ralph> what you mean?
[09:48] <xzcvczx> A_J: hence it is a cue bin
[09:48] <truepurple_> ralph: Type that into a terminal you mean?
[09:48] <raven> how to do automated rsync backup?
[09:49] <A_J> how can i use it, use to use foobar2k on windoes
[09:49] <ralph> yeah but idk...wait for ocean what he has to say
[09:49] <ruan> if i had a sample cue file, hmm
[09:49] <xzcvczx> A_J: well does it have a bin?
[09:49] <ruan> A_J: there is a player which can use cue files on ubuntu
[09:49] <ruan> A_J: search 'cue' on ubuntu software center
[09:49] <oCean> ralph: truepurple_ sure it will work, but once you have set a password for root user, we cannot provide the support you might need
[09:49] <xzcvczx> mplayer i *think* can
[09:50] <MK`> How big do I need to make the swap when installing?
[09:50] <oCean> ralph: truepurple_: ubuntu comes with the sudo/gksu for a reason
[09:50] <raven> how to do automated rsync backup?
[09:50] <truepurple_> oCean: I don't know what that all means
[09:50] <ruan> raven: you can use a bash script
[09:51] <ruan> well, you can do anything with a bash script
[09:51] <raven> ruan how to trigger it at startup?
[09:51] <ruan> raven: add the script to startup
[09:51] <raven> ruan, how?
[09:51] <ruan> raven: with startup applications in system > pref
[09:52] <ralph> oCean: how about just passwd that should do it, maybe he just needs to reset it
[09:52] <raven> ruan, sry i do not know where
[09:52] <ruan> raven: system > preferences
[09:52] <xzcvczx> raven: i am sure google has plenty of more suitable ways to do it
[09:53] <oCean> ralph: maybe, but he did login, in his session right?
[09:53] <raven> ah ok tnx
[09:53] <oCean> truepurple_: I'm not aware of your exact problem. You want to upgrade?
[09:53] <ralph> oCean: idk...kinda jumped in late also
[09:53] <oCean> ok
[09:54] <sykes> is there a way to change performance level of gpu while using nouveau driver?
[09:54] <truepurple_> oCean: The exact problem is certain commands issued through system adminstration menu rejects my valid password, but if I go through terminal for those same commands, it works
[09:54] <Antonis> guys do you know of any web development application with interface? I don't expect it to be as complicated as dreamweaver is but something I can create forms, tabled etc. and style them
[09:55] <oCean> truepurple_: ok. What version ubuntu are you currently using?
[09:56] <truepurple_> oCean: 10.10 64bit
[09:56] <xzcvczx> truepurple_: check your system logs and see if you have errors in there
[09:56] <truepurple_> How?
[09:56] <ralph> truepurple_ yeah then just go into terminal, type passwd , hit enter, type your current password, enter, new (different password), then confirm and hope
[09:56] <truepurple_> xzcvczx: How?
[09:57] <xzcvczx> truepurple_: tail /var/log/messages -n 100
[09:57] <truepurple_> xzcvczx: Type that into terminal?
[09:57] <xzcvczx> no type it into your web browser
[09:58] <oCean> xzcvczx: that is not helpful
[09:58] <truepurple_> Why webbrowser? What does my browser have to do with system commands?
[09:58] <oCean> truepurple_: ignore that last comment. It's a command for your terminal indeed
 he was just messing with you
[09:59] <truepurple_> Oh
[09:59] <Axlin> sarcasm is probably best not used in a situation like this...
[09:59] <truepurple_> Well I am still learning linux, very new to it
[09:59] <ralph> no kidding
[09:59] <xzcvczx> oCean: i really don't care... he needs to learn to help himself a bit
[09:59] <truepurple_> Alot to absorb, especially when everything isn't working right
[09:59] <Axlin> awesome attitude
[09:59] <oCean> xzcvczx: that 'humor' is not welcome in this channel, thanks
[09:59] <xzcvczx> oCean: its not humor
  go up a bit, i posted you terminal line and see if it works, it pretty simple
[10:00] <oCean> truepurple_: when you try (in terminal) gksudo update-manager ..does it work?
[10:00] <ruan> it's been tried
[10:00] <truepurple_> oCean: Yes I said
[10:01] <oCean> truepurple_: Ok, I understood that you could not get into updatemanager. But it's actually that you cannot get there through menu
[10:01] <SgrA> What's a good LCD font for Linux?
[10:01] <truepurple_> oCean: That seems to be the case, like its a GUI issue
[10:01] <oCean> truepurple_: indeed. Have not heard that one before :(
[10:02] <truepurple_> oCean: This link was found by I think it was axlin, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/90324 Perhaps this is it or related
[10:02] <ruan> SgrA: you can check in system>appearances>fonts
[10:02] <prx> Isnt gksudo merely a frontend to sudo?
[10:02] <oCean> truepurple_: might be related, though feisty release is very old
[10:02] <ruan> preferences>appearences
[10:03] <xzcvczx> prx: indeed, doesn't mean its perfect through
[10:03] <truepurple_> oCean: Well I don't understand enough of it to make sense of that
[10:03] <xzcvczx> -r
[10:03] <oCean> prx, yes. But sudo does not set correct environment when working with gui
[10:03] <prx> xzcvczx: By frontend i meant not a reimplementation, but it actually calls sudo
[10:03] <prx> oCean: ic, thx
[10:04] <ruan> !gksudo
[10:04] <truepurple_> oCean: Ok I got that log, now what?
[10:05] <oCean> truepurple_: I don't think anything useful will be in that log. I agree it has to be gui (gconf) related.
[10:05] <prx> I think i got what gksudo does... its like su vs su -
[10:06] <bawukmonster> asek
[10:06] <prx> so essentially 'sudo su -' in a shell yould take care of that, correct?
[10:06] <oCean> prx: read here about sudo vs gksu(do) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[10:07] <prx> oCean: im reading right now
[10:07] <truepurple_> ruan: oCean: That gksudo thing apply to me too?
[10:07] <ruan> kinda
[10:07] <oCean> truepurple_: can you try this command in terminal? gconftool --get /apps/gksu/sudo-mode
[10:08] <truepurple_> oCean: All it did was say "False"
[10:08] <truepurple_> lower case f
[10:08] <gb__> ello
[10:09] <gb__> can we get suport for natty here too ?
[10:09] <javahorn> Hi
[10:09] <oCean> !natty | gb__
[10:09] <javahorn> which VPN to setup for ubuntu 10.10
[10:09] <gb__> oCean: thank
[10:09] <xzcvczx> javahorn: whichever one you want that is supported
[10:09] <Danielcg25> If Natty uses Gnome, should it be "Gnatty"?
[10:09] <Danielcg25> =P
[10:10] <javahorn> xzcvczx: i had r60.exe but it does not install
[10:10] <prx> oCean: Im here to gather some information by chance... if thats not the correct chan, please say so. I do not want to bother busy ppl in here.
[10:10] <xzcvczx> javahorn: wow i hope you are kidding
[10:10] <oCean> prx: no problem at all
[10:10] <javahorn> xzcvczx: which link is there for ubuntu?
[10:10] <prx> oCean: thx
[10:10] <ruan> javahorn: what about openvpn?
[10:11] <javahorn> ruan any link?
[10:11] <xzcvczx> javahorn: well exes aren't linux
[10:11] <xzcvczx> javahorn: !google openvpn
[10:11] <ruan> hmm. apt:// is a protocol right?
[10:11] <javahorn> xzcvczx: yes , how to convert?
[10:11] <xzcvczx> you don't
[10:11] <xzcvczx> exe is NOT for linux
[10:11] <oCean> truepurple_: try this: start (in terminal) gksudo gconf-editor
[10:12] <ruan> !info ike-qtgui
[10:12] <truepurple_> oCean: You want me to put "start" as part of the command?
[10:13] <oCean> truepurple_: nope, from gksu....
[10:13] <Salih-k> Hi all. I have a problem with flash player on firefox. When i try to run two flash video in different tabs one of them that is crush. What can i do for this problem?
[10:13] <ruan> javahorn: type sudo apt-get install ike-qtgui from a terminal or use ubuntu software center and search 'vpn'
[10:13] <truepurple_> oCean: I don't understand
[10:13] <javahorn> ruan: let me try
[10:13] <mister2> why doesn't this script work: http://pastebin.com/6g0a3nSX
[10:14] <oCean> truepurple_: type this without the quotes:  "gksudo gconf-editor"
[10:14] <ruan> mister2: how doesn't it work?
[10:14] <mister2> ruan: it just doesn't ever echo
[10:14] <soreau> oCean: Err..
[10:14] <truepurple_> Ocean Ok done
[10:14] <ruan> mister2: echo -n $date
[10:15] <prx> Salih-k: I was having trouble using gnash (flash alternative) too, deinstall gnash, and install adobe-flashplugin, that should to the trick
[10:15] <ruan> mister2: wait..
[10:15] <soreau> oCean: Why would you run gconf-editor as root?
[10:15] <oCean> soreau: oh wait, indeed
[10:15] <prx> gnash uses up way to much CPU anyway
[10:15] <ruan> mister2: $date isn't a variable
[10:15] <oCean> truepurple_: nvm, please exit the application gconf-editor for a moment
[10:15] <oCean> soreau: thanks :)
[10:15] <Salih-k> prx: but î
[10:15] <ruan> date=%date
[10:15] <mister2> ruan: oh o.o
[10:15] <ruan> oops
[10:15] <akashm1990> I used this guide to install LAMP  http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[10:15] <Axlin> either way, i think oCean has the solution. i was able to reproduce the problem by unchecking the "sudo-mode" key :)
[10:16] <akashm1990> How can I open phpmyadmin now?
[10:16] <oCean> Axlin: sounds good!
[10:16] <truepurple_> soreau: Thanks as well, I didn't understand any of that, but it might have saved me some trouble
[10:16] <mister2> wait so what was i supposed to do for read?
[10:16] <Salih-k> prx: but i am already using adobe
[10:16] <truepurple_> Axlin: Is that directed at me?
[10:16] <oCean> truepurple_: you can start the gconf-editor command again, without the gksudo, so, in terminal:  gconf-editor
[10:16] <Axlin> truepurple_: somewhat. just listen to what oCean has to say :)
[10:16] <soreau> oCean: truepurple_
[10:17] <ruan> mister2: use a different method of getting the date
[10:17] <prx> Salih-k: You may want to run your browser inside a terminal, as this gives additional errormessages which might be helpful
[10:17] <soreau> oCean: truepurple_: You can mess up your permissions by running user apps as root
[10:17] <ruan> mister2: wait, date is a command
[10:17] <ruan> mister2: hold on, im going to experiment
[10:17] <oCean> soreau: yep, that is why we now run the gconf-editor as user
[10:17] <truepurple_> soreau: Is "gconf-editor" that?
[10:18] <truepurple_> oCean: Done
[10:18] <oCean> truepurple_: click the (+) sign next to Apps, then from the list select gksu
[10:18] <prx> Salih-k: have you deinstalled the gnash plugin? It may still be on your system being used despite you installing adobe-flash
[10:18] <soreau> truepurple_: Yes, all settings in gconf-editor are stored in $HOME/.gconf and many gnome apps use these settings
[10:19] <soreau> truepurple_: If they were to become owned by root, other user apps would no longer be able to write and save settings
[10:19] <truepurple_> soreau: Are you telling me not to listen to oCean?
[10:20] <soreau> truepurple_: So far as running gconf-editor as root (with gksudo), yes
[10:20] <Danielcg25> 8[10:20]  * Danielcg25 runs
[10:20] <truepurple_> soreau: But as just "gconf-editor", it is fine?
[10:20] <soreau> truepurple_: yes
[10:20] <oCean> truepurple_: but we corrected that mistake, thanks to soreau, and now we are running it as yourself, not as user,remember?
[10:20] <truepurple_> oCean: Done
[10:20] <oCean> truepurple_: in the right pane you see "sudo-mode". Since the command said "false" it is NOT selected, correct?
[10:21] <oCean> truepurple_: I mean, the box is not ticked
[10:21] <truepurple_> oCean: I don't understand it all though, so I wanted to make sure I understood correctly is all
[10:21] <oCean> truepurple_: yes, that is very smart
[10:21] <truepurple_> oCean: It is not ticked, ALL the boxes are unticked
[10:21] <oCean> truepurple_: now tick the box for "sudo-mode"
[10:22] <truepurple_> done
[10:22] <grigoriades> is there any chatroom for backtrack users???
[10:22] <oCean> truepurple_: you can quit the gconf-editor, and run this command again: gconftool --get /apps/gksu/sudo-mode
[10:23] <Danielcg25> !backtrack | grigoriades
[10:23] <truepurple_> oCean: It just said true this time
[10:24] <oCean> truepurple_: great! Now it's time to test if this solution works! Try Menu > system > administration > updatemanager (for example)
[10:24] <Ell> go off work now
[10:25] <truepurple_> oCean: It worked!
[10:25] <oCean> !yay | truepurple_
[10:25] <Ell> !!!!
[10:25] <Ell> holiday
[10:25] <Danielcg25> lol the bot has !yay
[10:25] <oCean> truepurple_: nice. What you now actually did, is tell the gui backend to use the same method for authentication as you do on the commandline.
[10:26] <truepurple_> oCean: And so does synaptic package manager, which no longer asks for a password at all
[10:26] <Danielcg25> truepurple: O.O
[10:26] <truepurple_> oCean: Ah, what was it doing before?
[10:26] <Danielcg25> Anyone could install anything then! Or uninstall...thats not a good idea
[10:26] <Bill_> Hello everybody.........Does anybody want to help an Ubuntu rookie configure a wired network card????
[10:27] <oCean> truepurple_: not sure. It tried to authenticate without sudo, but there is no administrator password, so it failed. ... is what I think
[10:27] <truepurple_> daniel you mean remotely?
[10:27] <soreau> truepurple_: You can also re-own all files in .gconf by running as your normal user: sudo chown -R $USER $HOME/.gconf
[10:27] <oCean> truepurple_: Danielcg25 no, it will ask for a passwd once the sudo timeout has expired or an other user tries it
[10:27] <truepurple_> soreau:  I don't know what you mean by "re-own"
[10:28] <soreau> truepurple_: It will only not ask for password if you have entered it recently
[10:28] <oCean> soreau: truepurple_ there's no need to chown the gconf files, since we edited as user, not as root
[10:28] <truepurple_> soreau: Actually, that whole line seemed like gibberish to me
[10:28] <Danielcg25> sudo chown -R /all/your/base
[10:28] <Axlin> i'm pretty sure it stores permissions for 15 mins... it should ask for your password again after that time. this is normal behavior
[10:28] <truepurple_> oCean: I didn't understand what you just said too
[10:29] <oCean> truepurple_: hang on
[10:29] <oCean> truepurple_: see what Axlin said, last line ^
[10:29] <truepurple_> Axlin: New to me, before it asked for password every time
[10:29] <oCean> truepurple_: sudo authentication has a method to store your "granted access" for 15 minutes (in the same shell)
[10:29] <truepurple_> And it really got old
[10:29] <soreau> truepurple_: ie. in case you ran gconf-editor with escalated permissions (with sudo, gksu or gksudo) and changed any setting (it will write the file as root and subsequently own it to root) then you can recursively (that is what -R means here) re-own the permissions to your normal user with the aforementioned command
[10:30] <Bill_> Hello everybody.........Does anybody want to help an Ubuntu rookie configure a wired network card????
[10:30] <truepurple_> soreau: Y
[10:30] <truepurple_> soreau: Sorry, you will have to dumb that down alot if you want me to understand that
[10:30] <soreau> truepurple_: Lets just assume everything is ok :)
[10:31] <soreau> Bill_: What is the card connected to?
[10:31] <truepurple_> soreau: So no changes?
[10:31] <oCean> truepurple_: I agree with soreau there, it seems the issue is fixed
[10:31] <oCean> nice find on that bug from Axlin though :)
[10:31] <soreau> truepurple_: Should be fine, I was just making a point
[10:32] <Axlin> oh, that gksu bug? thanks, but it was you who found the solution oCean ;)
[10:32] <truepurple_> soreau: Sorry I couldn't understand it for you, perhaps I will shove it into a tomeboy note and hope to understand it in the future
[10:32] <soreau> truepurple_: The underlying message is, never run anything as root unless you know why you need to
[10:32] <benzaldehyde> Fluxbox is so the bomb!
[10:32] <flynn3> doesn't get as old school when running irssi in xterm
[10:32] <oCean> Axlin: .. I got hinted by that bugreport :) Anyway, I'm off now.
[10:32] <tyrone> \join #python
[10:33] <truepurple_> soreau: Even there, I don't know what it means to run things as root (except for real basic principle) or even if I have run X command as root or not
[10:33] <tyrone> \\join #python
[10:33] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: tried that, strained my eyes, 32 inch flat screen
[10:33] <prx> truepurple: You would need to know this. root ist the administrator, allowed to do _everything_ on that machine, even do bad stuff
[10:33] <flynn3> benzaldehyde: yeah I had to skwint to see your name.  comes up yellow
[10:33] <antant> !find ncurses
[10:33] <soreau> truepurple_: Running as root means you used gksu, gksudo or sudo, or if you are logged in as root at your terminal, the last character will be a #. For user, the last char for your prompt is $
[10:34] <Axlin> oh, i see what you mean. i missed that post, heh. well cool
[10:34] <prx> truepurple: so you would want to minimize doing stuff as root
[10:34] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: white backgrounds are never the way to go
[10:34] <truepurple_> soreau: Administrator and user are the same to me, being the only person who uses this PC
[10:34] <antant> !find /usr/include/zlib.h
[10:34] <flynn3> benzaldehyde: yeah, i've always been a fan of gnome-terminal and others like it (terminator)
[10:35] <antant> !find /usr/include/ncurses.h
[10:35] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: i am gnome termin' it in irssi
[10:35] <antant> !find msgfmt
[10:35] <soreau> truepurple_: That is the mistake most people make. They are entirely not the same thing
[10:35] <prx> truepurple: it is not the same as an ordinary user, although an user might become root. Why should there be root if it was the same
[10:36] <Bill_> Hello everybody.........Does anybody want to help an Ubuntu rookie configure a wired network card????
[10:36] <soreau> Bill_: What is the card connected to?
[10:36] <Bill_> PCI
[10:36] <flynn3> benzaldehyde: nice!  I have a built in terminal on my desktop that I use for irssi.  wee-chat is a bit easier to read with the colors
[10:36] <soreau> Bill_: I mean the wire
[10:36] <soreau> ! who | Bill_
[10:36] <txh> hello, can the application that allows installation of windows type drivers be used on other linux types debian, or gentoo?
[10:36] <truepurple_> oCean: On the forum I got a simplier way to enable that, "gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /apps/gksu/sudo-mode true"
[10:36] <Bill_> ethernet the answer your looking for
[10:37] <bawukmonster> !find /use/include/zlib.h
[10:37] <evtl> cw cs 1.6 5n5 mid,
[10:37] <bawukmonster> !find /usr/include/zlib.h
[10:37] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: what browser do you use generally? i was thinking about ditching firefox but now tht i see fluxbox is this fast i want to stick with it only i noticed f11 no longer works in maverick on it
[10:37] <prx> txh: there is only a certain type of driver that can actually be used, and even then you probably do not want this
[10:37] <evtl> clan war? counter-strike 1.6 mid 5n5
[10:37] <maxx0r> when i try to install grub, it hangs at "Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub" and does not go on. what can i do?
[10:38] <prx> txh: what driver are you talking about?
[10:38] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: you ought to be able to change the color scheme in gnome terminal emulation i should think
[10:38] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: gonna try it
[10:38] <flynn3> benzaldehyde: firefox 4 is nice
[10:39] <flynn3> benzaldehyde: I used it in beta i'm still on it
[10:39] <flynn3> benzaldehyde: you like fluxbox huh?  have you tried enlightment?
[10:39] <benzaldehyde> wow i unchecked "use colors from system theme" and instant improvement
[10:39] <Bill_> soreau> is "ethernet" the correct answer your looking for
[10:41] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: not really, my linux use has been hit or miss, my laptop took a dump on me so i decided why not just go with linux on ps3 rather than do anything else
[10:41] <crackguy> can I remote access ubuntu machine using Windows Remote Desktop program>
[10:41] <phoenixsampras> benzaldehyde: try transparency in terminal, is cool
[10:42] <prx> crackguy: If you enabled shared desktop in linux you may use something like ultravnc
[10:42] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: I just now got into the same speed of my laptop using fluxbox, gnome was so so slugish
[10:42] <flynn3> benzaldehyde: enlightment is more attractive and as light
[10:43] <flynn3> i can't paste in xterm irssi :(  be back on gnome :)
[10:43] <benzaldehyde> flynn3: i'm hesitant to go too far too fast, my intention is to use this as a work station, chemistry and so forth, lots of pdf reading
[10:44] <Flynn3> back and better
[10:44] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: do you filter out the parts joins and such
[10:44] <spendyala> all
[10:44] <Flynn3>  /join   ?
[10:44] <benzaldehyde> in irssi
[10:45] <Flynn3> benzaldehyde:
[10:45] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3:  the annoying part and joins
[10:45] <Flynn3> benzaldehyde: no
[10:45] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: i hate those
[10:45] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: :D
[10:45] <devin_> hello, I have a problem with a linux install after installation
[10:45] <Bill_> ! soreau, you see what I last put?
[10:45] <devin_> the resolution is stuck at 800x600
[10:45] <Flynn3> devin_: what's the problem?
[10:46] <spendyala> Hi all
[10:46] <spendyala> are able to receive my messages
[10:46] <Bill_> Hi spendyala
[10:46] <devin_> I am using a Trident CuberBlade xp graphics card in a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600
[10:46] <spendyala> I am new to IRC
[10:46] <spendyala> trying to learn new thing
[10:46] <spendyala> this is one among those
[10:47] <spendyala> Bill
[10:47] <devin_> I cannot figure out how to change the resolution to 1024x768
[10:47] <Danielcg25> !enter | spendyala
[10:47] <Flynn3> devin_: gnome-display-properties
[10:47] <brontosaurusrex> spendyala, try /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <loxs> will gnome 3 be in ubuntu natty?
[10:47] <Flynn3> devin_: might have to run it as gksudo
[10:47] <Bill_> spendala, so am I. just FYI, I just learned. If you address someone personally, put their name so they know who you are addressing
[10:47] <devin_> ok
[10:48] <Flynn3> loxs: i think it'll be in the repos
[10:48] <Danielcg25> How do I get a user into the sudoers file?
[10:48] <devin_> I will give it a  try real quick, just a moment
[10:48] <brontosaurusrex> Danielcg25, visudo
[10:48] <Danielcg25> ?
[10:48] <brontosaurusrex> Danielcg25, basically add the user to admin group is what i did
[10:48] <spendyala> Bill_ How to join the a channel and how to use this effectively
[10:48] <truepurple_> oCean:  soreau: Thankyou for all your help
[10:49] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS QUITS NICKS PARTS
[10:49] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: add your user as a admin in the /etc/group    or type in a terminal:  visudo        and add your user to the sudoers file
[10:49] <truepurple_> oCean: Are user names cap sensitive when logging in?
[10:49] <Danielcg25> Flynn3: Thanks
[10:50] <benzaldehyde> is a /me an action or just when ops kick and ban
[10:50] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: do you got it after the sudo visudo part??
[10:51]  * prx scratches himself
[10:51] <iceroot> truepurple_: everything in linux/unix is case sensitiv. users, files, groups and so on
[10:51] <Flynn3> benzaldehyde: nice
[10:51] <Danielcg25> It says access denied
[10:51] <Flynn3> benzaldehyde: msg'ed you
[10:51] <Danielcg25> Flynn3: ^^
[10:51] <truepurple_> iceroot: But this is smuxi, not linux
[10:51] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: sudo visudo
[10:51] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: i don't have the hang of that yet
[10:51] <iceroot> truepurple_: and this is ubuntu-support (linux)
[10:51] <Bill_> spendyala, I don't know if you can "join" the channel. I think you can participate when your on, ect. How to use it effectively? I don't know yet, I have not been effective at using it effectively yet. Ill let you know when I learn. ;-)
[10:51] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: /window #?
[10:52] <Flynn3> benzaldehyde: ctrl p
[10:52] <qwebirc61633> "apm: BIOS not found."  Does this mean that my motherboard is not using APM?!
[10:52] <devin_> I have to install gnome-display-center
[10:52] <qwebirc61633> or just the module is not LOADED?
[10:52] <Danielcg25> Doesn't work
[10:52] <prx> devin_: Youll use ACPI anyway, dont bother with APM
[10:52] <Peddy> My menus in qt and KDE programs flicker when I move the cursor. Is this a known problem?
[10:52] <prx> sorry devin_
[10:52] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: sudo visudo should work
[10:52] <prx> qwebirc61633: Youll use ACPI anyway, dont bother with APM
[10:53] <qwebirc61633> prx: the machine IS OLD
[10:53] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: unless you are the user without root permissions
[10:53] <Danielcg25> I am the user =p
[10:53] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: in that case lets make the magic happen
[10:53] <devin_> It is installing, once installed, what should I do to fix resolution
[10:53] <Danielcg25> I can su root though
[10:53] <qwebirc61633> prx: Ubuntu is not powering it off!
[10:53] <qwebirc61633> prx: This is really buggy
[10:53] <prx> qwebirc61633: maybe you could post a complete dmesg after bootup somewhere?
[10:53] <qwebirc61633> prx: it shows System Halted and fans keep spinning
[10:54] <Danielcg25> It's funny, because you all think I cant. I know how to su root.
[10:54] <prx> qwebirc61633: Yeah, shitty BIOSes
[10:54] <Flynn3> qwebirc61633: sudo halt
[10:54] <qwebirc61633> prx: I have tried ACPI
[10:54] <qwebirc61633> Flynn3: ..........
[10:54] <Danielcg25> (hint: im not in Ubuntu, or even Linux. I am on iOS, the OS for apple iDevices)
[10:54] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: do you have a live ubuntu cd??
[10:55] <serp_> hey what's up Danielcg25
[10:55] <Danielcg25> Flynn3: LOL. I am on an iPod. No CD drive xD
[10:55] <Danielcg25> serp_: Hi
[10:55] <qwebirc61633> Flynn3: of course it DIDNT WORK I said that system halts but does not poweroff !
[10:55] <qwebirc61633> grr
[10:55] <Danielcg25> It is a *nix OS, though.
[10:55] <Flynn3> Danielcg25: hmm apple irc isn't that fun
[10:55] <qwebirc61633> !ot | Flynn3
[10:56] <Flynn3> qwebirc61633: touchy touchy
[10:56] <Danielcg25> lol
[10:56] <devin_> Flynn3: That still only offers 800x600 resolution
[10:56] <qwebirc61633> Flynn3: at least read what other people write
[10:57] <Flynn3> devin_: your going to want to edit your xorg.conf  which by default ubuntu does not use.  you can generate one though but's it's a process
[10:58] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: yep i think you have to chmod a directory and then Xorg -configure although i just nano'd one by sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and created my own
[10:58] <phibxr>  /join #ubuntu+1
[10:58] <benzaldehyde> phibxr: ?
[10:58] <ruan> phibxr: no space before /join
[10:58] <phibxr> benzaldehyde, one space too much in front of the slash. :P
[10:59] <tim167> hi, I want to stop a program from commandline, i try killall <name of application>, it doesn't complain but it also doesn't stop the program...how do i do this ?
[10:59] <qwebirc61633> [10:54] <prx> qwebirc61633: Yeah, shitty BIOSes
[10:59] <qwebirc61633> no, it's not bios fault
[10:59] <prx> tim167: try killall -9 programname
[10:59] <benzaldehyde> phibxr: eye, she be a tricky thing the keyboard argh
[10:59] <ljsoftnet> why does my firefox does something in the background after, everything is loaded?
[10:59] <qwebirc61633> prx: I cant poweroff successfully in Archlinux
[10:59] <qwebirc61633> but cant in Ubuntu so maybe it's a damn bug
[10:59] <Flynn3> qwebirc61633: not helping you.  but might want to look into hdparm and scripting :P
[11:00] <prx> qwebirc61633: Doesnt make me wonder if this is really something BIOS specific
[11:00] <ruan> qwebirc61633: and in recovery mode?
[11:00] <lucidium> ljsoftnet, be more specific
[11:00] <Flynn3> qwebirc61633: also this isn't arch.
[11:00] <tim167> how do i find out how to "killall" a specific program? how do i find the correct name of the process to kill ?
[11:00] <Flynn3> qwebirc61633: but nice choice on a distro
[11:00] <qwebirc61633> prx: no, it's not a setting in BIOS because same settings have different results, it's so problem in Ubuntu
[11:00] <prx> tim167: ps auxw | grep partofprogramname
[11:01] <Flynn3> tim167: sudo ps -eF | grep -i "process name"
[11:01] <ljsoftnet> lucidium something is loading on the background after, the home page is loaded
[11:01] <benzaldehyde> tim167: i don't know but i think it has something to do with pid
[11:01] <Bill_> I upgraded my network card, Ubuntu recognizes it, and recognizes when the ethernet cable is plugged in. But when I open a browser, it's not connecting to the internet. What am I missing? I am new to Ubuntu, if someone could help me in this matter, it would be appreciated.
[11:01] <prx> qwebirc61633: Im not talking about the settings, but about the actual BIOS code
[11:01] <Flynn3> tim167: sudo top
[11:01] <Samuel> does anyone know how to enable postgresql PDO in PHP?
[11:01] <phibxr> benzaldehyde, indeed.
[11:01] <qwebirc61633> Flynn3: stfu please you are just shouting offtpic. I sad it works in archlinux because it's relevant to fix this problem in ubuntu.
[11:01] <lucidium> ljsoftnet, probably the page uses AJAX or needs to transfer something else. That doesn't sound like a ubuntu bug.
[11:02] <qwebirc61633> !guidelines > Flynn3
[11:02] <benzaldehyde> Flynn3: i do not think you should expect a christmas card from that guy
[11:02] <rigved> Bill_: are you behind a proxy server?
[11:02] <qwebirc61633> prx: BIOS code? what do you mean
[11:02] <ljsoftnet> lucidium can i replace firefox 3.6 with firefox 4?
[11:02] <lucidium> Samual, are you using apache?
[11:02] <Samuel> yes lucidium
[11:03] <Samuel> apache2
[11:03] <SwedeMike> ljsoftnet: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/firefox-4-ppa-for-ubuntu-10-04-and-10-10-users/
[11:03] <lucidium> Samual, in httpd.conf you can set PHP settings
[11:03] <prx> qwebirc61633: All BIOSes have some quirks, which newer linux Kernels may know and work around
[11:03] <Samual-Laptop> Samuel* not Samual*
[11:03] <Flynn3> qwebirc61633: cute
[11:03] <tim167> Flynn3:  prx: thanks i'll try it out
[11:03] <prx> qwebirc61633: BIOSes only tend to get tested under that one big OS
[11:03] <tim167> Flynn3: but if i have to sudo, i can't run it in an automated script ?
[11:03] <Flynn3> tim167: no problem
[11:03] <Bill_> rigved, I dont think so. when I installed Ubuntu about 2 mos ago, my intigrated netwrok card was recognized right away
[11:03] <qwebirc61633> Flynn3: do you want to be banned?
[11:04] <lucidium> ljsoftnet, i'm not sure if it's in the repositories
[11:04] <lucidium> ljsoftnet, you might have to download it off the website
[11:04] <Bill_> rigved, I know I am directly connected to the cable modem
[11:04] <Samuel> what is the location of httpd.conf?
[11:04] <iceroot> Samuel: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[11:04] <soreau> ! locate | Sami345
[11:05] <prx> qwebirc61633: of course this also might be because of the kernel doing something wrong, but then it's the BIOS again, as things are not standardized
[11:05] <rigved> Bill_: if you know your own ip address, then try this: Applications > Accessories > Terminal. in the terminal type: ping ip_address  <-- enter your own ip address here
[11:05] <Samuel> that file is empty?
[11:05] <iceroot> Samuel: you want /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[11:06] <overlord> hi, i would like to use OCSP, which software could i use ?
[11:06] <Bill_> rigved, okay, give me a second
[11:06] <Flynn3> Lisbon
[11:06] <spyzer> hi all, just like we have google docs where many people can type simultaneously in a document, is there some similar code editor also??
[11:06] <Samuel> oke opened the file what do i do next?
[11:06] <iceroot> Samuel: depending what you want
[11:06] <lucidium> spyzer, you could all use a screen session
[11:07] <Flynn3> qwebirc61633: if anyone is going to be ban it's both of us.  me for giving in to you
[11:07] <prx> lucidium: using vi ;)
[11:07] <spyzer> ummm isn't there anything online like a site bcoz screen session wud be too costly on bandwidth i believe
[11:07] <Flynn3> lucidium: emacs is cool too
[11:08] <Samuel> well curently PDO support for MySQL and SQLite is available, I just installed postgresql and its running fine but how do I enable PDO for that?
[11:08] <spyzer> prx: you mean many people over the internet can type on a same document in vi and everyone will see everyones' changes????
[11:08] <iceroot> !who | Samuel
[11:08] <iceroot> Samuel: i even dont know what pdo is
[11:08] <prx> spyzer: thats what a screen session would allow
[11:08] <prx> spyzer: But didnt you want something more GUI like?
[11:09] <benzaldehyde> spyzer: there's an online thing like pastebin called twiddla
[11:09] <Samuel> iceroot, its PHP Data Objects
[11:09] <iceroot> prx: spyzer but the current vi(m) is not designed for that. the newest vim-release can do it but its not in the repos
[11:09] <spyzer> iceroot: ohh
[11:09] <benzaldehyde> spyzer: but i think i misspelled twiddla
[11:09] <iceroot> Samuel: maybe have a look at #php, oder #httpd
[11:10] <Samuel> i'll have a look iceroot
[11:10] <tim167> hmm, so the program i want to "killall" identifies as "java", but there is a second program by the same name in "top" that i don't want to kill...now what?
[11:10] <spyzer> any more suggestions please
[11:10] <iceroot> tim167: use the pid
[11:10] <lucidium> tim167, get the process number and use "kill <pid>"
[11:10] <lucidium> oops, beaten to it
[11:11] <prx> tim167: specify the name better, so only one matches, or filter by hand, reading what you actually want
[11:11] <tim167> iceroot: lucidium: but how do i get the correct pid? because i can not know which one of the two processes called "java" it is...?
[11:11] <iceroot> tim167: dont specify the name better.. just use the pid
[11:11] <ruan> tim167: memory usage or cpu usage
[11:11] <benzaldehyde> tim167: if you are in gnome there is also a thing you can add to the panel, i forget the name but it gives you a medical alert type line of your cpu usage and if you right click it is like a taskmanager
[11:11] <iceroot> tim167: look at the time the program was started maybe thats helps
[11:11] <aconite> need a password list for wpa
[11:11] <ruan> tim167: of each process
[11:12] <lucidium> tim167, the process number is the number on the far left in top
[11:12] <iceroot> aconite: ?
[11:12] <ruan> aconite: we can't help you with cracking here
[11:12] <prx> tim167: you might be best off using top
[11:12] <aconite> i need a longer pasword list
[11:12] <aconite> to crack wpa
[11:12] <benzaldehyde> aconite: the biggest word lists are english oxford dictionaries in text form
[11:12] <brontosaurusrex> Samuel, maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364883
[11:12] <lucidium> aconite, get a dictionary somewhere else
[11:12] <benzaldehyde> ruan: i thought everyone knew that
[11:12] <iceroot> aconite: generate it :)
[11:13] <prx> tim167: itll show processes by CPU usage first, if you press m youll get memory usage, pressing k allows you to fill in the pik you want to kill
[11:13] <prx> pid
[11:13] <OomElvis> hey all... i had ubuntu installed, but then installed windows in unpartiitoned space... so then when u startup windows just loads (no grub boot menu or anything) - what do i need to do to get a grub menu back to be able to get into linux again?
[11:13] <aconite> tanks
[11:13] <ikonia> aconite: we will not support any attempts for you to crack WPA - please don't ask again
[11:13] <tim167> lucidium: prx: ok, so i'll have to make an involved script to find and distinguish the two pid's of the two java processes...
[11:13] <ruan> tim167: just make one of the processes use the cpu, it will distinguish their pids
[11:14] <prx> tim167: itll get involved, as you might need to parse out the CPU usage (highest first) or memory usage, find the pid ans finally kill it
[11:14] <lucidium> OomElvis, you need to reinstall grub
[11:14] <OomElvis> so id need the ubuntu cd and then?
[11:14] <OomElvis> hmm
[11:14] <OomElvis> ill google it
[11:14] <OomElvis> heh
[11:14] <tim167> prx: ruan: I start both with a script, so i guess i'll write their pid's to a file as they are started one after the other...
[11:14] <FloodBot2> OomElvis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <lucidium> OomElvis, yes, but with the alternative disc
[11:15] <ruan> tim167: or use system monitor and see where they're started from
[11:16] <Bill_> rigved, it says unknown host ip address in the terminal
[11:16] <prx> tim167: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3056.html
[11:16] <prx> tim167: http://blog.dhampir.no/content/how-to-kill-a-process-that-uses-too-much-cpu
[11:16] <rigved> Bill_: are you sure that you typed your own ip address?
[11:17] <MK`> i'll ask here as well
[11:17] <devin_> I need to create a xorg.conf file for 1024x768 resolution
[11:17] <MK`> [06:10:27] <MK`> Also, I looked at the partitions, and it has the Extended partition (which contains the same-sized ext4 partition) and the Swap partition
[11:17] <MK`> [06:10:41] <MK`> but on my other installation of linux, the swap is under the extended partition along with ext4 | did I do it wrong?
[11:17] <devin_> anyone can help
[11:17] <rigved> Bill_: ping my_won_ip
[11:17] <blink> what is a good movie maker for ubuntu? i didn't like the default one.
[11:17] <tim167> prx: thanks, the reason why i need to killall the process is that it sometimes crashes, and then i need to kill and restart it, i don't think it uses too much cpu though...
[11:17] <Bill_> rigved, I believe I did, lemme double check
[11:18] <prx> tim167: ic, then saving the pid somewhere seems best
[11:18] <benzaldehyde> devin_: just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:18] <rigved> Bill_: run: ifconfig   <-- run this in the terminal. it will give you your own ip
[11:18] <benzaldehyde> devin_: doing so creates the .conf
[11:18] <devin_> benzaldehyde: I did, then what
[11:19] <Flynn3> Bill_: rigved:  terminal-              ping localhost               or         route
[11:19] <devin_> bensaldehyde: what can I do to edit, sorry for noob question
[11:19] <benzaldehyde> devin_: then i don't know, i use ps3videomode to set resolution, sorry
[11:19] <brontosaurusrex> blink, video editor?
[11:20] <heizmann> When I try : $ mplayer -vf ::-32 myvideo.avi # I have two black lines at the top and the bottom of my movie.
[11:20] <blink> brontosaurusrex, nevermind, i found PiTiVi
[11:20] <brontosaurusrex> blink, i'd use kdenlive
[11:20] <Flynn3> blink: have you tried openshot??
[11:20] <OomElvis> lucidium: why the alternate cd?
[11:20] <benzaldehyde> devin_: essentially you would put in your arguments and then ctrl X then hit y and enter
[11:21] <lucidium> OomElvis, it will allow you to install grub without completely reinstalling ubuntu
[11:21] <Flynn3> devin_: sorry been busy with a idiot trying to msg me and harrass me.  your trying to setup a xorg.conf right?
[11:21] <lucidium> OomElvis, unless you want a complete redo of your system
[11:21] <OomElvis> cool
[11:21] <devin_> Yes
[11:21] <heizmann> Should I reproduce this with mencoder? Because: mencoder -vf expand::-32 -oac copy -oav copy myvideo.avi -o myvideo_out.avi # doesn't work :-/
[11:21] <Bill__> rigved, here is my terminal out put. sovereign420@sovereign420:~$ ping my_own_ip ping: unknown host my_own_ip
[11:21] <devin_> xorg.conf
[11:21] <devin_> do I just enter vga=791
[11:22] <devin_> Thanks everyone who is helping
[11:22] <devin_> this is a big problem for me
[11:22] <brontosaurusrex> heizmann, what are you trying to do?
[11:22] <blink> Flynn3, no. I'd give it a try. lemme just see how it goes with me on PiTiVi
[11:22] <benzaldehyde> devin_: i think they begin with Section and EndSection
[11:23] <heizmann> brontosaurusrex: Well I want to put two black borders at the top and the bottom of my .avi
[11:23] <Flynn3> devin_: your going to have to kill gdm and then kill X in order to generate a xorg.conf   ...it's a bit tricky, this guide does a good job of explaning it:  http://www.osguides.net/operation-systems/217-how-to-create-xorgconf-in-ubuntu-910.html
[11:24] <heizmann> brontosaurusrex: The reason is I've got a 16/9 TV, but it's old (tube) TV...
[11:24] <qwebirc61633> I can't poweroff the computer in an old machine using Ubuntu, but I can using Archlinux.. So obviously the problem is not the BIOS. How can I fix this?
[11:24] <devin_> Flynn3: I will give it a try, thanks
[11:24] <ikonia> qwebirc61633: #ubuntu-server is the correct place to ask
[11:24] <benzaldehyde> devin_:
[11:24] <Bill__> rigved, here is my terminal out put. sovereign420@sovereign420:~$ ping my_own_ip ping: unknown host my_own_ip