[21:01] <zetter> dracmas, what's a tray section? i have clock and weather app
[21:01] <Loki__> test
[21:01] <Loki__> hello
[21:02] <paladinlaw> can someone help me with a solution to my low resolution problem? i have searched the web everywhere and tryied their solutions but doesnt help me. My max resolution is 640x480.
[21:02] <rww> SyberBot-LOKI-PC: If you do not stop joining and quitting this channel repeatedly, you will lose access to it.
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> zetter: use dconf-editor -- Desktop - Unity - Panel -- there you can add nm-applet
[21:03] <zetter> i don't use unity
[21:03] <zetter> i changed to classic view
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> great, neither do i
[21:04] <zetter> dconf or gconf?
[21:04] <kon_> i am experiencing random lags on one of my systems, some monitoring with iostat showed the cpu is in IOWAIT while this happens. how can i find what the cause for this is and does anybody have some pointers what this could be?
[21:04] <DaSinge> How do i set a script to run at shutdown??
[21:04] <explodes> Is there a keyboard command, or a way to assign one, that switches between workspaces (like Expose` on a Mac)
[21:05] <tkenney> n-iCe: just out of curiosity, have you launched Skype as root from the terminal and tested the audio that way?
[21:05] <Polah> explodes, ctrl+alt+arrow keys by default
[21:05] <DaSinge> nudge
[21:06] <w30> explodes, or control aternate down arrow
[21:06] <uns0b1ll> i need to automatically run this every time my ubuntu starts up : udo ifconfig tup0 <IP_ADDRESS>/30 up
[21:07] <uns0b1ll> any way to automate it ?
[21:07] <megamind> Hi
[21:07] <explodes> excellent, thanks everyone
[21:07] <Polah> uns0b1ll: Add it to cron with @reboot
[21:07] <explodes> uns0b1ll: system > preferences > startup applications
[21:07] <explodes> but Polah's answer is more technical
[21:08] <Polah> DaSinge: Adding it to /etc/rc0.d might work.
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> zetter: try killall nm-applet, it will disappear and reappear
[21:08] <uns0b1ll> cant edit /usr/bin/crontab or cron
[21:09] <uns0b1ll> forgot how to edit crontab
[21:09] <w30> uns0b1ll, maybe rc.ocal?
[21:09] <zetter> MonkeyDust, some guy in gnome helped me... i added the notification area applet to the panel
[21:09] <zetter> and they appeared again
[21:09] <llutz> uns0b1ll: crontab -e
[21:09] <zetter> both icons
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> okay
[21:09] <Polah> uns0b1ll, crontab -e , you may want to do it with sudo to run the command as root if it's for networking
[21:09] <nessus> I run Ubuntu 10.04 off of a key drive! Will the 32 bit version run on a 64 bit processor
[21:09] <uns0b1ll> why is there 2 daemons ? crontab and rc.local ?
[21:09] <paladinlaw> can someone help me with a solution to my low resolution problem? i have searched the web everywhere and tryied their solutions but doesnt help me. My max resolution is 640x480.
[21:10] <llutz> uns0b1ll: rc.local isn't a daemon, it is a script running at boottime
[21:10] <sjefen6> Jordan_U: you got anything?
[21:10] <uns0b1ll> perhaps i use that instead ? can i just type same commands there
[21:10] <zelozelos> anybody know about xcursorgen, i know how to use it, i was wondering in the config file is it necessary to use the full path of the image or will it work in the directory the config and terminal is in when invoked?
[21:10] <Uxi> hii ppl!!
[21:11] <uns0b1ll> since i rather not change cron too much
[21:11] <zetter> MonkeyDust, i must have slipped with the most and deleted the notification area applet from my panel
[21:11] <uns0b1ll> In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
[21:11] <uns0b1ll> # bits. =- what is that mean /
[21:12] <uns0b1ll> can i just type my "ifconfig tap0 <IP_ADDRESS>/32" there ?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> zetter: we're here to help and learn (amen)
[21:12] <zelozelos> in other words can i change 50 8 0 /home/zelo/Desktop/arrow12/0010.png 100 so all the line has is    50 8 0 /0010.png 100  to save a ton of extra typing when i make multiple config files?
[21:12] <zetter> MonkeyDust, yes thank you
[21:12] <w30> paladinlaw, maybe your video driver ony supports 640x480?
[21:12] <Polah> nessus: Yes. 32-bit will run on 32- and 64-bit capable processors. 64-bit architecture will only run on 64-bit capable processors
[21:12] <paladinlaw> w30: the driver or the card?
[21:13] <nessus> Thanks Polah
[21:13] <paladinlaw> w30: because i got a geforce 250 GTS
[21:13] <Polah> zelozelos, ~/Desktop/0010.png  would replace /home/user part of the path
[21:13] <w30> paladinlaw, probably the driver unless your video card is 40 years old
[21:14] <paladinlaw> w30: hmm i used the driver that came with "additional drivers"
[21:14] <paladinlaw> w30: the card is like 1 year old or something
[21:14] <zelozelos> Polah well  that helps a little ;_) thankyou
[21:15] <w30> paladinlaw, additional drivers as in Nvidia? propriatory
[21:15] <Polah> zelozelos: Or if you're doing multiple lines with the same thing in a single script, you could use variables to define it once them just replace the value with the variable later in the script.
[21:16] <paladinlaw> w30: the hardware driver software which is in ubuntu.
[21:16] <zelozelos> Polah i guess ill try without the path and just the filename, its not a script persay its strictly formatted no extra spaces, entries, even blank lines or it wont read the config file correctly
[21:17] <Polah> zelozelos: Can't put them in ""?
[21:17] <zelozelos> polah i dont think so but i havent tried, im not that good w that kind of stuff yet
[21:17] <kon_> anyone had performance issues due to CPU iowait on ubuntu 64 bit with multicore + raid?
[21:17] <w30> paladinlaw, I use the Nvidia drivers avaiable when you enable the mutiverse repos or whatever they are caed
[21:18] <w30> called
[21:18] <zelozelos> Polah i figured if it errors out on an extra space it prob wont take anything other then the specified line
[21:18] <paladinlaw> w30: what do you mean?
[21:19] <Polah> zelozelos, if you have a space in an unconfined string then it'll attempt to parse the values on either side of the space as two strings, if you put the entire string with spaces in "", '' or similar then it'll read it as a single string, or should do. Or you could try escaping your spaces by putting a \ before them, for example  /etc/file\ space/blah
[21:19] <paladinlaw> w30: im new to ubuntu:P
[21:20] <w30> paladinlaw, goto system admin additiona drivers and use that
[21:20] <paladinlaw> i am
[21:20] <mattpat> popey: Turns out the network jack on my Eee does not appear to be properly seated. If I hold it in tightly, I get a link, but if I just let it sit there I don't. That, I can solve later. The other issue, though, is that I only get an IPv6 address. Thoughts?
[21:20] <zelozelos> Polah i wish i could write a script that would run xcursorgen, and allows for input for the numbered items to be entered in only once and would read the folder and make the config on the fly as it read each image in the folder varibles
[21:20] <paladinlaw> w30: i am doing it
[21:21] <popey> mattpat: thats odd, no idea, sorr
[21:21] <popey> *sorry
[21:21] <zelozelos> if that makes any sense to you ;) not sure it even does to me hahaa
[21:21] <meegooo> i need gcc 4.1 header files in  /usr/include , but they are  4.5 ? what should i do ?
[21:21] <paladinlaw> w30: i think before i installed it i could have 800x600 but when i installed it i can only choose 640x480
[21:22] <zelozelos> Polah, maybe i should do a psudo code for the logic and see what i can come up with...it would save a TON of work even for just one pointer theme
[21:22] <Polah> mattpat: That'll be configuration on your computer or whatever you use to assign IPs to your network (probably a router)
[21:22] <mattpat> Polah: Do you know where to look for those settings?
[21:22] <paladinlaw> w30: brb going to restart comp.
[21:24] <uns0b1ll> how to view all my usb serial adapters ? dmesg or lscpi
[21:25] <ni1s> uns0b1ll, lsusb
[21:25] <paladinlaw> w30: back
[21:25] <uns0b1ll> ye just remembed it :) thanks - now i see each line for individual serial port
[21:26] <uns0b1ll> but i cant see my usb-to-serial adapters ;(
[21:26] <uns0b1ll> i have 4 total but only one showing
[21:28] <paladinlaw> is envy good to use to install graphic drivers?
[21:28] <w30> paladinlaw, when you install the propriatory drivers you (me any way) gets a System admin NVIDIA Xserver settings
[21:28] <paladinlaw> w30: ye i got that
[21:29] <w30> paladinlaw, mess with that then
[21:29] <paladinlaw> w30: tryied... no luck
[21:29] <mattpat> Anyone familiar with getting wifi to work on the eee box eb1007 under Ubuntu Server? I'm not even sure what to add to /etc/network/interfaces, or what driver it uses (it's an Atheros chipset, but not sure what to look for in lsmod)
[21:29] <paladinlaw> w30: max resolution 640x480.
[21:30] <mouse_> I have a imwheel question.  I've mapped page_up and page_down to a couple of extra mouse buttons but what I'm wondering is there a way to use these buttons in a window by hovering the cursor over it and without changing focus to it?
[21:31] <meegooo> is there gcc 4.1 available for install on 11.04 ?
[21:31] <w30> paladinlaw, another thing: the additional driver tool is very confusing to me anyway, there is two driver choices and you have to activate one. and it seems to work the opposite as to what I percieve it to be.
[21:31] <johwil> Hi. tryed usx2yloader did NOT WORK to install TASCAM us144mkII. Anyone? I need help.
[21:32] <genii-around> !info gcc natty
[21:32] <paladinlaw> w30: i installed both :P
[21:33] <w30> paladinlaw, you have exceeded my knowledge unless you can pick a different monitor somehow?  :=(
[21:34] <johwil> Why can't I get TASCAM us144mkII working?
[21:34] <paladinlaw> w30: hmm.. cant .... nvm thx for your help. i will try to remove the driver and install it again :D
[21:35] <w30> paladinlaw, all my installs find me a decent monitor spec  though
[21:35] <erik1984> Just a quick question, how to search in your commands history? I forgot
[21:35] <mattpat> Would it make sense that my Atheros-chipset wifi adapter might be called phy0? Trying to add that in /etc/network/interfaces results in no success, but I see a few lines in dmesg that seem to indicate that's what it's called
[21:36] <Hing> erik: up arrow, if that's what you're asking about.
[21:36] <paladinlaw> w30: wierd... well well
[21:36] <paladinlaw> w30: i will try to fix it. anyway thx for your help :D
[21:37] <erik1984> Hing: I mean outputting the history and then grep the keywoard you are looking for.
[21:37] <evil_andy> I'm having issues with multicast traffic.  It appears that the kernel is throwing away multicast traffic unless I explicitly set the promisc flag on the interface. I've already set all of the rp_filter sysctls to 0 and added the route to <IP_ADDRESS>/4. This is driving me crazy
[21:37] <evil_andy> any help would be greatly appreciated
[21:37] <funkeyy> Hi evrbdy!! i just set up a new 550 GTX TI in my ubuntu 10.04 machine.. now everything works just fine BUT when i reboot, the resolution is always set back to an awkward eye-cancer-inducing clumsy-FTW-Resolution.. does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:38] <evil_andy> the system is ubuntu 10.10
[21:39] <w30> erik1984, cat $HOME/.bash_history
[21:40] <llutz> erik1984: ctrl-r
[21:42] <Dog_Matix> nessus: yes the 32bit version will work on a 64 bit processor
[21:44] <nadiyama> Hi all, while my speakers work fine as soon as I plug headphones it doesn't. It's not a headphone/sound card problem as it works in Windows. My sound card is HDA Intel PCH, and in alsamixer the headphone bar is at 100<>100, any hel please?
[21:46] <erik1984> w30 and llutz, thanks!
[21:47] <n-iCe> anyone can help me? I use INTEL HDA but my microphone is not working, any idea how to activate it I use a laptop and it is built in
[21:47] <techcrisis> sup all
[21:47] <Guest7544> I am trying to set up a webcam. i have video but the microphone has no sound. any ideas?
[21:48] <techcrisis> did you try changing it in the sounds menu?
[21:48] <techcrisis> it allows you to select an input
[21:48] <nadiyama> n-iCe: install alsamixer, run it, press f4 and put everything at 100
[21:49] <n-iCe> nadiyama: done, does not work
[21:50] <nadiyama> n-iCe: now go to the sound menu and check if it's selected or muted
[21:50] <erik1984> Anyone having trouble uploading stuff to UbuntuOne lately? It happened quite a few times that I dragged a file to the UbuntuOne folder and it kept syncing.
[21:51] <Dog_Matix> n-iCe: Does the mic work in other applications?
[21:51] <n-iCe> nadiyama: is not
[21:51] <n-iCe> Dog_Matix: does not work at all in any
[21:52] <andor> ubuntu isn't recognizing any usb devices plugged into my machine, lsusb hangs, cat /dev/bus/usb/002/002 does the same but all other ports seem okay, and all ports work fine under windows
[21:53] <Dog_Matix> n-iCe: How about in alternative operating systems?
[21:53] <n-iCe> nadiyama: indeed when I try to record I hear lot of noises but no voice, in windows working fine
[21:53] <Guest7544> I am trying to use skype and it says, "your system has pulseaudio running and i need to change it. does anyone know what that means
[21:53] <nadiyama> n-iCe: I think I've got the same card as you and it doesn't work for me also
[21:54] <nadiyama> n-iCe: do headphones work for you?
[21:54] <andor> Guest7544: did you get skype from the software center, or did you download it elsewhere?
[21:54] <Guest7544> andor: software center
[21:54] <n-iCe> nadiyama: I have not tried
[21:55] <Jordan_U> andor: I would file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug linux" then try a vanilla upstream kernel.
[21:55] <nadiyama> n-iCe: what model is your card?
[21:55] <Jordan_U> Guest166: What version of Ubuntu?
[21:56] <n-iCe> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[21:59] <mouse_> I have a imwheel question.  I've mapped page_up and page_down to a couple of extra mouse buttons but what I'm wondering is there a way to use these buttons in a window by hovering the cursor over it and without changing focus to it?
[22:03] <w30> mouse_, I think in your config somewhere you can change focus to hover, would that help? but that is for every thing mouse
[22:03] <_6502_> Hello, i'm trying to get my hp 1018 working with ubuntu 10.10/64bit. After connecting the printer the system tells me downloading a plugin from an hp server is required but after dowloading the plugin i get the error "plug-in file does not match its digital signature". What can I do?
[22:04] <_6502_> except moving to windows, i mean :-)
[22:04] <mouse_> w30, So that would make it so the window focus would change to whatever the cursor is hovering over?
[22:04] <w30> mouse_, yeah
[22:06] <mouse_> w30, That seems a little excessive but maybe it would be handy to know later.  Do you know the name of this?
[22:07] <w30> mouse_, it might be in compiz config  or system preferences mouse
[22:07] <mouse_> w30, Oh I think I know what you're talking about.
[22:10] <w30> mouse_, its not in system preferencs mouse; I just checked
[22:10] <newerthhero> hi all
[22:10] <newerthhero> nvidia-settings dont save screen resolutoin
[22:10] <Guest43503> hi
[22:10] <newerthhero> when i reboot the resolution changes back
[22:11] <w30> mouse_, look around in compiz config settings manager
[22:11] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: At the grub menu, can you press 'c' to get to the grub shell then run "echo $timeout; echo $recordfail"?
[22:12] <newerthhero> how do i change this?
[22:13] <Aqua23> hi
[22:13] <mouse_> w30, From my personal experiences I know that feature is most common in xfce and openbox.
[22:14] <Hing> hey guys
[22:14] <andor> haha, apparently ubuntu-bug runs into the same problem i'm already having with usb
[22:14] <andor> and can't get anywhere
[22:15] <Aqua23> Has anyone on here used Wine?
[22:15] <yeats> !anyone | Aqua23
[22:15] <Jordan_U> andor: Then file a bug report manually, and try the latest vanilla kernel.
[22:15] <Aqua23> ok
[22:16] <Aqua23> How come when I run Team Fortress 2 in wine and play it all the characters appear white??
[22:16] <Aqua23> I use Steam as my client
[22:16] <Aqua23> ...
[22:16] <sjefen6> Jordan_U: sorry, I dont have physical access to the tardware at the moment. Will try it tomorrow
[22:16] <Aqua23> and also  how come when I click the system info tab on Steam . Steam crashes?
[22:16] <Aqua23> What is the cause?
[22:16] <yeats> Aqua23: probably better to ask in #winehq
[22:17] <andor> Jordan_U: is there a repository i should get the kernel from, or should i install it manually?
[22:17] <Jordan_U> andor: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.1-rc4-oneiric/
[22:17] <andor> thanks
[22:17] <Jordan_U> andor: You're welcome.
[22:17] <Hing> I've been struggling with this for some time: I never use email clients, I always go and use the web browser to check my email, anyway, do you know, how to paste a html code into your mail? I know it's not what this room supports, but I don't know where to go.
[22:17] <newerthhero> i dont get sound in id tech 4 games
[22:18] <newerthhero> they dont use pulseaudio
[22:18] <newerthhero> how do i enable another sound library?
[22:18] <heylelshalem> ?
[22:18] <heylelshalem> ?
[22:19] <mamece2> i hav several problem, please help me, first: starting configure network device FAILED, seccond:mount all disconnected from plymouth, what do?
[22:20] <Jordan_U> sjefen6: My guess is that the next time you boot, if you don't pres any key, the grub menu will timeout.
[22:22] <biel> hola
[22:22] <mamece2> !spanish
[22:22] <andor> newerthhero: alsa is installed by default, and you can get the alsa-oss package to enable alsa to handle oss
[22:23] <newerthhero> can i only enable oss without alsa?
[22:25] <Hing> anyone? (html question)
[22:25] <newerthhero> hello?
[22:25] <andor> newerthhero: you could replace alsa with oss4, with the oss4-base package
[22:25] <newerthhero> andor: do i install that with synaptic?
[22:25] <andor> yes, or apt-get from the command line
[22:26] <mamece2> i hav several problem, please help me, first: starting configure network device FAILED, seccond:mount all disconnected from plymouth, what do?
[22:26] <ChogyDan> mamece2: how did you get into this mess?
[22:26] <urlin2u> !details | mamece2
[22:27] <mamece2> chogydan i installed ubuntu 11 and BT5 (ubuntu 10) then i erased wicd
[22:28] <mamece2> chogydan ubottu and then i erased some partition with free space. i cant get to ubuntu 11 GUI
[22:28] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[22:28] <Ycarene> So, when is Canonical going to drop pulseaudio from its future releases?
[22:28] <urlin2u> mamece2, and your trying to fix the b43 in backtrack correct?
[22:28] <matheus_> hello, anyone?
[22:28] <ChogyDan> Ycarene: I think pulse is the standard beyond Ubuntu now
[22:28] <Shwaiil> Q: I forgot to create some directories and since I'm programming, my script created for me. The thing is, I dont have permissions. How can I change it directly on the folder ? Thanks!
[22:28] <kon_> anyone familiar with slowness caused by high cpu iowait cycles?
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Ycarene: Not for the foreseeable future. If you'd like to rant about pulseaudio please do it elsewhere.
[22:29] <mamece2> ubottu chogydan urlin2u when i get to GUI mode (sometimes i can) i get this message about no hard drive space
[22:29] <Ycarene> ChogyDan - Oh
[22:29] <sherorox> has anyone had any luck ordering anything using hhgregg online checkout? ive been trying to order something for like 4 hours
[22:30] <bkerensa> Jordon_U: Its not very polite to address others that way
[22:30] <newerthhero> pulseaudio is crap
[22:30] <ChogyDan> Shwaiil: chmod is the command you are looking for, I believe.
[22:31] <mamece2> i tryed this to fix the mountall disconnected from plymouth , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1602767   with no positive result
[22:31] <ChogyDan> mamece2: did you check your harddisk space?
[22:31] <newerthhero> andor: after installing it, how do i start the game with that package?
[22:31] <Shwaiil> ChogyDan, tks for looking! I can used chmod in cli right ?
[22:31] <mamece2> chogydan the sda1 partition have 6 GB left but still i get the message about no hard drive space
[22:31] <urlin2u> bkerensa, I suspect this is not their only encounter.
[22:32] <sparc> I've been spoiled by Redhat...  what's the correct way to check and manipulate which services start on boot?
[22:32] <sparc> or on runlevel x
[22:32] <andor> newerthhero: here's a good guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[22:32] <ChogyDan> Shwaiil: yeah, you may want to google for some tutorials or examples to learn how to use it.  If you still need help, post here with the specifics of what changes you want to make
[22:32] <bkerensa> urlin2u: Perhaps but I did not see any recent comments today so it was a bit uncalled for
[22:32] <Shwaiil> ChogyDan, I use chmod in ftp, tryed right now trough > chmod 777 folderName
[22:33] <ChogyDan> Shwaiil: that should do it :)
[22:33] <Shwaiil> ChogyDan, it didnt.. the folders in ubuntu have a symbol locked
[22:33] <ChogyDan> sparc: Ubuntu uses upstart right now,
[22:33] <ni1s> Shwaiil, try chmod u+rwX /path/to/dir
[22:33] <mamece2> chogydan i cant merge ext4 partition to the sda1 partition, how can i make that partition bigger? why i have the no harddrive message if i got 6 GB left?
[22:33] <Shwaiil> nils tks i'll try :)
[22:34] <rubbitydibdab> If I replace the regular linux hernel with nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686, will it automatically use OpenGL
[22:34] <Shwaiil> nils didnt worked the folder is kept locked. the symbol
[22:34] <rubbitydibdab> I can't ask in #debian cuz I'm +qed there
[22:34] <ChogyDan> mamece2: you need space on the partition where you have it installed
[22:34] <rubbitydibdab> maia ho maia ha ha
[22:35] <rubbitydibdab> ma-i-a he!  ma-i-a ha ma-i-a ho ma-i-a ha ha
[22:35] <urlin2u> bkerensa, this is abusy channel and there are regulars who come here for help in various forms that are not within even close to the topic, even after being told this many times. Not any of is perfect, so calling out a Ubuntu is not much better to be honest.member
[22:35] <ni1s> Shwaiil, then I would assume its owned by another user, try chmod a+rwX /foo
[22:35] <xsinick> Hey has the new unity ubuntu been getting updates
[22:35] <mamece2> chogy i have 6 GB left. how can i make more space in the clean up harddrive wizard?
[22:35] <xsinick> is ti getting better
[22:35] <xsinick> ?
[22:35] <xsinick> those any one know?
[22:35] <urlin2u> ubuntu member*
[22:35] <ChogyDan> xsinick: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:35] <Element9> anyone know how can I get libstdc++.so.6.0.15?
[22:36] <ChogyDan> mamece2: Im sorry, Im getting confused,  where is your ubuntu installed?
[22:36] <silverarrow> Does anyone know how to download videos from livestream.com?
[22:36] <Shwaiil> nils nopppp didnt worked :) maybe I should do it from php, thats how I created the folder ?!
[22:36] <sparc> Hey, do you all think update-rc.d, is the right program to use, to manipulate which services start at which runlevels?
[22:36] <Shwaiil> but I wish I could do it directly in the cli :P
[22:36] <syme> sparc its more complicated than a lot of people want
[22:36] <syme> but thats what it does
[22:37] <ChogyDan> sparc: what are you trying to do?  You may want to use upstart
[22:37] <xsinick> ChogyDan: why not here?
[22:37] <silverarrow> does anyone downloads videostreams in Ubuntu?
[22:37] <mamece2> chogydan my ubuntu 11 is installed in partition sda1, sometimes i can get to GUI repair mode, but i only have this wizard to see how is my space distributed in the partition
[22:37] <bkerensa> urlin2u: Code of Conduct applies channel and being rude to others is not appropriate... It was simply a kind reminder
[22:38] <urlin2u> bkerensa, k
[22:38] <ni1s> Shwaiil, thats odd, getfacl /foo might give you some clues
[22:38] <sparc> ChogyDan: I want check check what's running at runlevels 3, 4, and 5, and turn some of them off.  I also want to get my company's packages, to start on 3-5 using either upstart or SysV
[22:38] <ChogyDan> xsinick: because all improvements go into the next release,
[22:38] <Shwaiil> nils i'll try :D tks (i'm sorry about so much questions, I come from win :P )
[22:38] <xsinick> ChogyDan: I see, thank you
[22:38] <memand> hi guys, does someone here have the skills to help me install grub and a kernel thru the shell?
[22:38] <xangua> !grub | memand
[22:39] <ni1s> Shwaiil, no worries
[22:39] <ChogyDan> !upstart | sparc you probably need to at least look at this
[22:39] <syme> i vouch highly for the supergrub2 disk, freeware
[22:39] <sparc> ChogyDan: thank you :)
[22:39] <Shwaiil> nils this told me who the owner is.
[22:39] <syme> saved a lot of installs
[22:39] <seag33k> Anyone setup a server to stream a webcam? I am looking to use a webcam to monitor our front door which is downstairs.
[22:39] <mamece2> chogydan what if i remove the xorg.conf ? to get rid of the "mount all disconnected from plymouth" problem?
[22:39] <Shwaiil> nils the thing is the username is the same as my login :T
[22:40] <urlin2u> !tab | syme
[22:40] <syme> yah
[22:40] <ni1s> Shwaiil, what happens when ls -l /foo/*
[22:40] <Shwaiil> nils i'll try :)
[22:40] <ChogyDan> mamece2: what partition did you install Ubuntu to?
[22:41] <mamece2> ChogyDan: sda1
[22:41] <memand> xangua, I am in rescue mode and need to chose weather to execute the shell in /dev/sda3 or in the installer environment?
[22:41] <Shwaiil> nils, I can see all the files on that folder
[22:41] <ChogyDan> mamece2: do you know how big sda1 is?
[22:41] <Shwaiil> -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data  6625 2011-09-12 23:15 167f0cffb5794450c498ad8202e2779f8dfaea90.cache
[22:41] <Shwaiil> like this
[22:41] <Jordan_U> memand: What problem are you trying to solve?
[22:42] <silverarrow> who uses youtube-dl in terminal , or download addons in firefox?
[22:42] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  yes, 126 GB , 6GB free
[22:42] <ni1s> Shwaiil, well it looks fine now
[22:42] <memand> xangua, BTW I am writing from my Android so sorry for looong response time
[22:42] <andybrine> does anyone know any software on ubuntu that wil convert audio to text
[22:42] <rasusto> i have a download addon for chrome
[22:43] <andybrine> like text to speach but the other way round
[22:43] <syme> also known as voice recognition
[22:43] <silverarrow> rasusto, can you download this video? http://www.livestream.com/private/rebeccamessenger/video?clipId=pla_86fd63cc-151b-43d0-bbdf-f18ff7405e56&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
[22:43] <Shwaiil> nils, oh yeah, this was the ones I created, I forgot to try over the actuall fodlers the script created <-- duh :X I'll try the commands u gave me sorry about this lol
[22:43] <silverarrow> oh, really long link
[22:44] <Shwaiil> chmod: changing permissions of `espana/menu_lib/': Operation not permitted
[22:44] <Shwaiil> chmod a+rwX folder
[22:44] <silverarrow> rasusto, you might have to use password azna
[22:44] <heylelshalem> hey anybody know about sound mixers?
[22:44] <heylelshalem> im totally stumped
[22:44] <silverarrow> heylelshalem: alsamixer?
[22:44] <Shwaiil> ahh placing the sudo before chmod maked it work
[22:45] <ChogyDan> mamece2: so you have 6GB left on that partition, you installed only to that. and how did this problem start?
[22:45] <heylelshalem> yeah well i installed a external soundcard
[22:45] <heylelshalem> and im running music software in wine
[22:45] <memand> Jordan_u, I where trying to install the newest dev kernel because I have very new laptop and I where hoping for better hardware support, but it could not load the kernel or grub
[22:45] <ni1s> Shwaiil, add the -R argument to chmod to make the changes recursive
[22:45] <memand> so now I'm fed
[22:45] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  because i erased the swap partition and the free space partition
[22:45] <funkeyy> HI everybody! my new graphic adapter works jsut find (550 GTX TI).. but after every login it forces some wired standard-resolution to be set.. how can i permanently define 1920x1080 as set Resolution? (The button in NVIDIA Settings saying "Savee to X Configuration File" does not work)
[22:45] <Shwaiil> nils thanks a lot for your help!!
[22:45] <Shwaiil> ;D
[22:45] <heylelshalem> my music player and video player works but i get no sound from my music software
[22:45] <ni1s> Shwaiil, you probably wernt the owner of that dir
[22:45] <Jordan_U> memand: What could not load the kernel or grub? What happens when you try to boot Ubuntu?
[22:46] <heylelshalem> it looks like it is muted but i cant figure out how to unmute it
[22:46] <Shwaiil> nils nop! I created trough my php script
[22:46] <rasusto> @silverarrow that isnt a youtube video
[22:46] <memand> Jordan_u, the installer
[22:46] <heylelshalem> anyone?
[22:47] <newerthhero> i installed oss4
[22:47] <szal> !sound | heylelshalem
[22:47] <newerthhero> but no sound
[22:47] <ChogyDan> mamece2: yeah, Im unsure.  I may be able to reinstall over top your ubuntu install, and keep all your files.  Maybe you need to edit fstab so it points to the correct partitions or something
[22:47] <silverarrow> rasusto, no it's not, but it's suppose to be down loadable,  I'm not shore how
[22:48] <ChogyDan> memand: 3.0 kernel?  I don't think it is a good idea to install that kernel on earlier Ubuntu releases
[22:48] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  how can i reinstall and keep my files? i didnt see that option when i started with LIVE USB
[22:48] <memand> Jordan_u it says grub>rescue no such file found. or something along those lines... aka it does not load grub
[22:48] <syme> along the lines of youtube-dl , anyone know if theres a program similar to that that can record from silverlight or moonlight?
[22:48] <szal> mamece2: depends on your partitioning
[22:49] <Jordan_U> memand: That likely has nothing to do with installing a newer kernel. Do you have more than one hard drive?
[22:49] <heylelshalem> hmmm
[22:49] <ChogyDan> mamece2: is there any way that you could backup your files?
[22:49] <silverarrow> syme, maybe some of the firefox addons, or gnome-player extentions, I am searching for much the same
[22:49] <mamece2> szal chogydan i have one for ubuntu 10 and one for ubuntu 11 and their swap partition
[22:49] <syme> i used to be able to do it in an older firefox
[22:49] <memand> Jordan_u no but more than one partition
[22:49] <syme> but the newer firefox has severely cramped the operation and , even , compatibility of silverlight at least for 64 bit
[22:49] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  yes i have a external HD, what the folder that i need to keep? the one with my user name? thats all?
[22:50] <szal> mamece2: iow, you don't have a separate /home partition?  if so, there's no way you keep your files w/o a backup
[22:50] <Jordan_U> memand: Have you changed partitioning or tried to do anything with grub (other than just installing a new kernel package) recently?
[22:51] <ChogyDan> mamece2: sure, I mean, you have some 100GB+ files, whatever those files are, back them up.  Maybe just the whole drive.    THEN, I would try just reinstalling over top.  It should keep all your files intact; the back is just in case
[22:51] <heylelshalem> damn im screwed lol
[22:51] <mamece2> szal i dont have a separate /home partition, i would like to have one from now and on.. :(
[22:52] <mamece2> ChogyDan: so i should choose install and pick the sda1 partition (the one wheres installed right now)?
[22:52] <ChogyDan> mamece2: folks from Canonical said you don't need separate /homes anymore, just make the backup just in case
[22:52] <memand> Jordan_u, no... but anywho I am now in rescue mode from the cd and I have the choose between launching a shell I either /dev/sda3 or in the installer environment, can we work with this?
[22:52] <cassie> Can anyone give me a suggestion for using grooveshark in ubuntu?
[22:53] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  i will try to empty the trash can from CLI , and then try rescue mode GUI, what do u think?
[22:53] <syme> just launch in the installer environment memand
[22:53] <ChogyDan> mamece2: sure
[22:53] <memand> syme ok
[22:53] <syme> only need to launch on the hard drive in specific cases
[22:54] <ChogyDan> mamece2: regarding the install, I *think* you need to do manual partitioning, and select the partition there.  You will get a warning that critical folders will be deleted; that is a good sign
[22:54] <Jordan_U> memand: Choose to launch a shell in /dev/sda3.
[22:54] <memand> syme, ok I have shell where do I go from here?
[22:54] <syme> idk ive never installed from a command line <8 i just use automated grubdisk to fix grub problems
[22:55] <memand> Jordan_u I launched it in the installer now :/
[22:55] <syme> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[22:55] <Jordan_U> memand: Can you connect to the internet from within this shell?
[22:55] <BUS73D> Lo
[22:56] <memand> jordan_u I should be able to
[22:56] <pr0xy> How can I connect to a wifi network?
[22:56] <BUS73D> if i run wireshark with "sudo wireshark" do i become vulnerable?
[22:57] <urlin2u> !details | pr0xy
[22:57] <prakas> BUS73D: no
[22:57] <Jordan_U> memand: Do you have a LiveCD? It will make life easier if you do as I'd like you to download a script and pastebin its output.
[22:57] <ChogyDan> BUS73D: 2 things, use gksu for graphical programs, and second, I can't get wireshark to work without gksu anyway, so I hope not
[22:57] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | BUS73D
[22:57] <BUS73D> prakas : thx i thought yes cause wireshark pops up a warning message about running it as root
[22:58] <memand> I can't get any of my live cd's to work on this machine... it's quite weird
[22:58] <pr0xy> My friend has a problem on 11.04 connecting to a WiFi network using a usb wifi antenna.
[22:58] <BUS73D> ubottu: thx!
[22:58] <memand> Jordan_u I can't get any of my live cd's to work on this machine... it's quite weird
[22:59] <marriedman624> Can someone help a noob with moving HOME from root partition to and empty partition?
[23:00] <andybrine> sorry just got back
[23:00] <bastidrazor> !seperatehome > marriedman624
[23:00] <ChogyDan> marriedman624: what guide are you following?
[23:00] <urlin2u> pr0xy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported  these might help.
[23:00] <Lorenzo> Could someone help me set up a hotmail account using Evolution
[23:01] <bastidrazor> marriedman624: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[23:01] <andybrine> dos anyone know any software to convert speech to text?
[23:01] <memand> Jordan_u, I can take a picture of the screen with my phone and send it ...
[23:01] <marriedman624> ChogyDan: I have looked at a few guides but haven't gotten of them to work
[23:01] <marriedman624> bastidrazor: Thanks, I'll check it out
[23:01] <Scunizi> I'm considering doing the "upgrade path" from 10.10 to 11.04.  I typically don't have much success with that but wondered how 11.04 is with a dual monitor setup both after the upgrade and during?
[23:02] <lion42> andybrine, there's none that really work on linux yet. There's none that really work well on anything, but the situation especially sucks on linux. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[23:02] <Lorenzo> Could some one help me set up Evolution using hotmail?
[23:02] <andybrine> lion42 damn thats a shame!! Thanks for the link though
[23:02] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: do you have a paid hotmail account?
[23:02] <andybrine> :)
[23:03] <Scunizi> Lorenzo, unless you're paying for their service I don't think you can..
[23:03] <syme> Scunizi , i prefer the "classic desktop" 11.04's new setup imho hasnt been optimized yet
[23:03] <syme> for dual monitors
[23:03] <syme> jmho though
[23:03] <Scunizi> syme, how 'bout with kubuntu? any idea?
[23:03] <BUS73D> ubottu: your bot is funny
[23:04] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: please keep the conversation in channel. you can not use hotmail with evolution if you don't pay for hotmail. they block forwarding
[23:04] <Lorenzo> okay thank you.
[23:04] <syme> Scunizi kde has some cool features but there are also tradeoffs.  i like ubuntu classic gnome desktop the most but kde is generally able to be configured more powerfully , easier
[23:04] <urlin2u> andybrine, here is a link with a little web search, http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/55794.aspx
[23:04] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: gmail works great with evolution!
[23:05] <Lorenzo> okay, I'll see if i can get the person to convert
[23:05] <andybrine> urlin2u, thanks
[23:05] <Scunizi> syme, I use both (or 3) classic gnome on desktop and kde.. lappy is unity.. I guess my real question is will the upgrade hang in the middle with dual monitors?
[23:05] <bastidrazor> !gmail > Lorenzo ::if you get them to convert
[23:06] <Lorenzo> thank you.
[23:06] <bastidrazor> Lorenzo: you're welcome
[23:07] <syme> Scunizi from the default configuration and with only minor effort and tweaks, i did not find the unity desktop to be taking the most advantage of 2 monitors
[23:07] <memand> (memand) Jordan_u, I can take a picture of the screen with my phone and send it ...
[23:07] <syme> It seems like a thing where, they're kind of demo'ing it now, and it will be a lot more refined later on
[23:07] <Jordan_U> memand: Never mind about boot info script for now then. Run "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys && sudo chroot /mnt"
[23:08] <Jordan_U> memand: Tell me when you're done with that.
[23:08] <memand> Jordan_u, all as one line?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> memand: Yes.
[23:08] <syme> i quit ubuntu after being a steadfast follower, and switched to kde cause unity desktop i dont think is refined enough yet really
[23:08] <memand> brb
[23:09] <rasusto> unity works for me
[23:09] <syme> unity seems promising as hell
[23:09] <rasusto> 11.10 is gonna be awesome
[23:10] <lion42> ...
[23:10] <lion42> Someone let the fanboys out.
[23:10] <lion42> :(
[23:10] <andybrine> aparently festival does speech to text??
[23:10] <andybrine> I thought it was the other way round
[23:10] <urlin2u> lion42, hehe
[23:10] <kion> Is there a way to have Realplayer on Ubuntu 64 bits?
[23:11] <andybrine> yeah you can doenload it and just install it
[23:11] <andybrine> just go to the realplayer website, it will have an installer
[23:11] <Dog_Matix> rasuto: It is awesome.
[23:13] <Scunizi> When changing the Power management settings, do they take effect immediately or only after a logout and login?
[23:13] <urlin2u> Scunizi, imm
[23:13] <Scunizi> urlin2u, good.. thanks
[23:14] <memand> Jordan_u, says "/bin/sh: sudo: not found"
[23:15] <Jordan_U> memand: Remove sudo from all of the commands (you can press the up arrow so that you don't need to type it all again).
[23:15] <memand> kk
[23:16] <kion> andybrine: they apparently just have a .deb file that only works for 386 architecture...
[23:17] <andybrine> kion, you can install that one and it should work fine
[23:17] <memand> Jordan_u ok done :)
[23:17] <andybrine> i used to use it on a 64bit install
[23:18] <Jordan_U> memand: Now run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" It will ask you some questions, for the first two questions about kernel parameters simply leave them at their defaults and continue on by pressing enter. Stop when you get to the question about install devices and upload a picture of what you see.
[23:18] <memand> ok
[23:18] <kion> andybrine:  I try to open that but ubuntu software center will disable the install button and tell me that the architecture is not compatible...
[23:19] <memand> Jordan_
[23:19] <andybrine> kion, you will have to install from terminal amnd force architecture
[23:19] <andybrine> and*
[23:20] <memand> Jordan_u it just says "strxfrm() gets absurd."
[23:20] <kion>  andybrine: i found a place that states to use this: wget http://www.real.com/realcom/R?href=http://forms.real.com/real/player/download.html?f=unix/RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[23:20] <kion> andybrine: but as I do not see any .bin on the realplayer page, I don't really trust it.
[23:20] <andybrine> kion, yeah that should work also
[23:21] <Jordan_U> memand: Are you able to / do you mind burning another CD?
[23:21] <andybrine> kion that install is fine
[23:21] <andybrine> I have used the same link many times
[23:21] <andybrine> it is a trusted link
[23:21] <kion> andybrine: ok should i just chmod +x it and then run?
[23:21] <memand> actually I just used my last one :/
[23:22] <Jordan_U> memand: OK. Are you back at a prompt?
[23:23] <cassie_> Could someone help me with using hotmail with evolution?
[23:23] <memand> yeah 2 minutes I just have to change room, my mate is going to bed
[23:23] <zebastianortis> hello there, I have (L)ubuntu on my laptop on dual boot with windows 7, I am having to reinstall windows 7 due to a virus, i have already backed up, I am thinking of upgrading to (L)ubuntu 11.04 my question is the following, can I leave ubuntu untouched and install the new version of windows where the version of windows i am deleting is currently on(partitionwise) and otherwise what is more convenient, installing ubuntu first or windows first th
[23:23] <zebastianortis> ank you -YT: Sebastian Ortiz, first principles
[23:24] <Jordan_U> memand: Run "grub-install /dev/sda"
[23:25] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you have a install disc for W7?
[23:25] <cassie_> Could someone help me with using hotmail with evolution?
[23:25] <andybrine> kion you fwill have to run force architecture on the insall
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> zebastianortis: windoze will overwrite GRUB, you will have to repair it
[23:25] <OerHeks> cassie_, hotmail does not work with evolution, ... unless you pay for it, forwarding
[23:25] <lion42> zebastianortis, if you have a backup of your ubuntu partition, I'd just go ahead and install windows over everything and then use the default 11.04 installer to repartition later. That'd be the fastest method if you don't have a lot of files, or if you have a recovery disc and not an install disc especially.
[23:25] <zebastianortis> urlin2u,  yes i do
[23:25] <bastidrazor> cassie_: didn't you just ask that earlier with a different nick?
[23:25] <skegeek> How do we get the close/minimize/maximize buttons back to the right corner of the window?
[23:25] <OerHeks> cassie_, you have asked this before
[23:25] <Jordan_U> !controls | skegeek
[23:25] <xangua> OerHeks: cassie_ hotmail via pop3 works
[23:25] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, no problem have it write to that ntfs and as suggested grub will need to be reloaded in the mbr.
[23:26] <tatrasiel> right click and ckick settings then customize to chang eit
[23:26] <zebastianortis> lion42, so basically install windows, then install and leave no unused space then install ubuntu and repartition part of the windows partition?
[23:26] <andybrine> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[23:26] <tatrasiel> right click and ckick settings then customize to change it
[23:26] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, the disc is not the OEM right?
[23:26] <Smoo> is it cause of windows partition being at end of drive ?
[23:26] <cassie_> but it's linux, can't you do anything w/linux?
[23:26] <Smoo> *table
[23:26] <zebastianortis> OEM?
[23:26] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, oem?
[23:26] <lion42> zebastianortis, that's what i'd do IF I had a "recovery disc". But I can't tell you what to do if you have vanilla windows, as I don't know if it has tools to specify a partition.
[23:27] <pr0xy> is it possible to use a linksys WUSB11 for wifi in 11.04?
[23:27] <memand> Jordan_u ok I'm back, what was the question?
[23:27] <lion42> zebastianortis, did you get your windows cd from a windows box, or from your computer manufacturer?
[23:27] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, OEM is what you get from a distibuter like Dell lets say it will write the who;e HD.
[23:27] <Scunizi> Is there a "show desktop" shortcut in Unity?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> memand: Are you at a prompt again?
[23:27] <zebastianortis> lion42, windows cd, ultimate 7
[23:27] <zebastianortis> not that i am name dropping stephan kinsella or anything
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> zebastianortis: OEM allows you to do a basic install, without personal data, the user then can continue the install whenever he wants
[23:28] <zebastianortis> I have a cd that says windows 7 ultimate!
[23:28] <zebastianortis> comes in a black box
[23:28] <djskidd> Hi
[23:29] <djskidd> I need more help
[23:29] <djskidd> I am installing Ubuntu 10.10 on my mom's computer
[23:29] <djskidd> but she also wants to keep Windows XP
[23:29] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Why not 11.04?
[23:29] <Brutus-> djskidd, Hi, more than what? :D
[23:29] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, your good that is a install disc you can overwrite the NTFS or partion how you want with it.
[23:29] <xangua> !dualboot | djskidd
[23:29] <cassie_> Could someone help me with using hotmail with evolution?
[23:29] <xaphir> Hey does ubuntu support runlevels?  can I do 'telinit 3'?
[23:30] <memand> Jordan_u well before I did the long command it said "~ #" now I am just "#"
[23:30] <djskidd> Jordan_U: Cause I hate hate hate Unity
[23:30] <rumpe1> xaphir, yes, but i usually use "init 3"
[23:30] <Jordan_U> !classic | djskidd
[23:30] <Smoo> xaphir, yes
[23:30] <zebastianortis> lion42, i have both my windows and linux files back up, i have a disc for windows and an image disc for ubuntu, so install windows, use whole disc and then install ubuntu and repartition with ubuntus partition manager?
[23:30] <Jordan_U> memand: Good. Try running "grub-install /dev/sda".
[23:30] <djskidd> Lovely. Anyway, I'll update it later
[23:30] <brainspoil> cassie_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[23:30] <Smoo> , telinit is the safer way
[23:31] <memand> ok
[23:31] <cassie_> I tried that and it didn't work
[23:31] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you can use that windows disc to make any partition size you want.
[23:31] <djskidd> So. I want to install this to MY partition (there are 2 HDDs, 1 for windows, one my mom and I split)
[23:31] <Jordan_U> !runlevel | xaphir Smoo
[23:31] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, so i just leave some empty space for when i install ubuntu right?
[23:32] <memand> Jordan_u sda3 right
[23:32] <djskidd> My mom has a larger partition, so I know which one I want to install to.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> memand: No. sda.
[23:32] <djskidd> But I want to make sure I'm not about to screw it up
[23:32] <zebastianortis> ok, so now, there's a program to mount the windows partition from linux and vice versa can someone link me to it
[23:32] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, yep just go slow I forget the exact hoe to but any windows install disc allows a build of partitions.
[23:32] <brainspoil> cassie_: yeah I'm sure Microsoft keeps changing things around with upgrades, sorry
[23:32] <urlin2u> how*
[23:32] <memand> ok
[23:33] <cassie_> I said that "Reading package lists... Done
[23:33] <cassie_> Building dependency tree
[23:33] <cassie_> Reading state information... Done
[23:33] <cassie_> E: Unable to locate package hotway
[23:33] <cassie_> E: Unable to locate package hotsmtp
[23:33] <cassie_> "
[23:33] <FloodBot1> cassie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | cassie_
[23:33] <memand> Jordan_u grub-install not found
[23:33] <f2knight> zebastianortis, what are you looking for exactly?
[23:33] <djskidd> I am in the "Change" dialog of the Install window looking at my partition
[23:33] <cassie_> okay thank you
[23:34] <djskidd> What mount point do I use, and what Use as: do I choose?
[23:34] <zebastianortis> f2knight, I am looking for freedom(ainradio.com) specifically the freedom to read and write files on the windows partition logged from linux and to read and write files from the linux partition on windows
[23:34] <memand> djskid /
[23:34] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you use the custom advanced to make custom partion sizes and or overwrite the ones you may have.
[23:34] <djskidd> memand: ya?
[23:35] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, http://www.techtalkz.com/windows-7/514412-windows-7-installation-guide-tutorial.html
[23:35] <memand> djskid. for the system partition right?
[23:35] <xaphir> ubottu: an ubu user is telling me that the gui went down with 'telinit 3' so that would mean that runlevel 3 and 5 are not equal.
[23:36] <djskidd> No, I'm looking at my own partition, I don't want to screw up Windows
[23:36] <skegeek> Also, whatever happened to running apps showing on the bottom panel?
[23:36] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, I understand that, but now that I am about to do it, I wanted to ask, how can i access the linux partition with read and write privileges from windows and vice versa
[23:36] <zebastianortis> this is a feature that i got on here once but i forgot how to do it
[23:37] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, easier from ubuntu to windows, the reverse is usually done with a shared NTFS, really the safest way probably.
[23:37] <Aqua23> join /winehq
[23:37] <zebastianortis> i think there is a program that helps one access ext# partitions from windows
[23:37] <zebastianortis> i.e. "mount them" if you know what i mean
[23:38] <djskidd> Alright, just to know: can Ubuntu boot from NTFS?
[23:38] <djskidd> If not, what EXT do I use?
[23:38] <Jordan_U> djskidd: No.
[23:38] <cassie_> how do you get root privileges in a terminal?
[23:38] <djskidd> Ext2? 3? 4?
[23:38] <yeats> djskidd: current default is ext4
[23:38] <Jordan_U> !sudo | cassie_
[23:38] <xaphir> Jordan_U: some of that bot's advice needs to be revised
[23:38] <tatrasiel> sudo -s
[23:38] <djskidd> I love Sudo...
[23:38] <memand> djskid well Windows should be on the partition that is ntfs format and it also has a small 100mb partition don't touch those rwo
[23:38] <yeats> djskidd: ext3 is a safe option too
[23:38] <cassie_> okay thank you!
[23:38] <memand> *two
[23:38] <djskidd> Will pick Ext3
[23:39] <djskidd> What mount point
[23:39] <Jordan_U> xaphir: If you'd like to suggest specific changes you can do so in #ubuntu-ops.
[23:39] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, there is ext2 and ext3 quite outdated, and really you have to be careful with rewriting windows, depends on your intentions really.
[23:39] <xaphir> Jordan_U: I think when I responded to the bot it got forwarded
[23:39] <djskidd> I want to have this partition, and only THIS partition, to have Ubuntu
[23:39] <xaphir> at least that was the info
[23:39] <zebastianortis> what is ubuntu 11.04 on?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> xaphir: It did.
[23:39] <yeats> djskidd: then the mount point would be /
[23:40] <memand> djskid no you should use ext2 for system partition and / as mount point
[23:40] <zebastianortis> i have so far been able to access my files regardless of what i am logging on
[23:40] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, ext4 but yo can partition it to any other that works.
[23:40] <urlin2u> you
[23:40] <Jordan_U> memand: djskidd: I would not recommend ext2 for the root filesystem. Journaling is a good thing.
[23:40] <djskidd> Okay, 80GB, Ext3, Mount Point /, and format:yes. Will this f*** up my Windows installation?
[23:41] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, how do you mean partition it to any other that works? i am not sure i understand, linux can't run on a ntsf or fat as far as i know, and i feel like going from one ext to another would be something beyond my level
[23:41] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, what is it you want to reaf=d and write both ways?
[23:41] <djskidd> Windows is on a seperate HDD, I'm more worried about my mom's work
[23:41] <Jordan_U> memand: Do you get any error from "chroot /mnt/"?
[23:41] <yeats> djskidd: have you done data backups?
[23:41] <yeats> djskidd: that is always the first step of any installation
[23:41] <zebastianortis> anything, from .txt to just be able to open pdfs and media files while being able to copy, paste, delete
[23:41] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Important files should be backed up no matter what you're doing.
[23:42] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, just use a shared ntfs ubuntu will read and write and so will windows.
[23:42] <yeats> djskidd: both linux and Windows can be easily replicated - files cannot ;-)
[23:43] <memand> Jordan_u it fails to run /bin/sh no such file or dir
[23:43] <djskidd> K, I'm backed up. Just to save time, can I set the installer to only screw with the F: partition (where I want to install to)?
[23:43] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, a shred is a ntfs that is just a partition with no OS both OS will see it.
[23:43] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, what is a shared ntfs? and how do i do that, i mean i remember once on ehre someone told me to use some program on windows IFS or something like that
[23:43] <urlin2u> shared
[23:43] <Jordan_U> memand: OK. Do you get an error from "sudo test"?
[23:44] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, you just have an extra ntfs that has no OS but your stuff that you want to access from both Ubuntu will ee it and so will windows.
[23:44] <memand> Jordan_u no it gives no output
[23:44] <urlin2u> see*
[23:45] <djskidd> Alright, told it to install Ubuntu and the bootloader to sdb5. Let's hope nothing gets F'ed up.
[23:45] <memand> djskid: you should be fine
[23:45] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, hmmm, does that take extra space? like i am installing windows then i ask it to have an extra ntsf partition and there i put 80% of my storage space? as far as i understand i have currently just the windows partition which mounts on ubuntu by clickcin on it on the file manager and viceversa
[23:45] <ShadesEdge> Hello, when I try to mount my drive like that: mount -t ext4 /mnt/extract/root/root-image.fs /mnt/archlinux with the Ubuntu Live-CD (?), it says: mount: /mnt/extract/root/root-image.fs is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[23:45] <ShadesEdge> Any ideas?
[23:45] <abtexas> anyone here ?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> memand: OK. Try "apt-get install grub-pc".
[23:46] <Jordan_U> ShadesEdge: Try adding '-o loop'.
[23:46] <djskidd> Here goes
[23:46] <djskidd> uwaa!
[23:46] <memand> Jordan_u segmentation fault
[23:46] <ShadesEdge> It isn't a correct command, doesn't exits
[23:47] <Jordan_U> djskidd: You should install grub's boot sector to the mbr, not to a partition.
[23:47] <ShadesEdge> Removed the ext4 part
[23:47] <Jordan_U> memand: That's a bad sign.
[23:47] <zebastianortis> there must be a way to do this as that's the way i am doing it currently
[23:47] <zebastianortis> i just need to know how to do it again
[23:47] <memand> Jordan_u lol, I guessed that much
[23:48] <vacho> what is a good way of transfering files from a FTP to another bypassing my own computer?
[23:48] <Fabs> try the ftp command vacho
[23:48] <vacho> using terminal ? :)
[23:48] <vacho> I am not that comfy in terminal, rather use a UI?
[23:48] <Fabs> is it a text file or binary?
[23:48] <vacho> it's a bunch of files and images
[23:49] <memand> Jordan_u oh wait, can it be because launched the shell in the install environment and not in sda3?
[23:49] <djskidd> Awesome, here it goes!
[23:49] <Jordan_U> memand: No, because I had you use chroot.
[23:49] <memand> ok
[23:49] <Fabs> hmm vacho, what is the scenario?
[23:49] <djskidd> Now I will add my mom as a user after
[23:50] <vacho> bunch of files I want to move from a server to another
[23:50] <bastidrazor> djskidd: sudo adduser mom
[23:50] <vacho> ftp is good since it will set the right user permissions etc and file owner
[23:50] <djskidd> k
[23:50] <Fabs> if you can ssh into the destination computer
[23:50] <Fabs> then you can tunnel X server
[23:50] <zykotick9_> vacho, ftp is nerver "good" ;)  FTP should die.
[23:50] <Fabs> so you can use a GUI program on it
[23:51] <djskidd> bastidrazor: Actually I think I will do sudo adduser Terisa
[23:51] <memand> Jordan_u shouldn't it be chroot air-get then?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> memand: "grub-install" is a command that you should definitely have, and apt-get / dpkg segfaulting is very bad. This situation was caused by a lot more than trying to install a new kernel and will likely require a re-install.
[23:51] <memand> *apt
[23:51] <Jordan_U> memand: No.
[23:51] <zebastianortis> in any casey, I thank you all for your help, now I go into reinstalling OSystems thanks for watching, and till the next one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpLNOvbaR18
[23:51] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, to be honest I think you need to ask around more about using a from windows to read ubuntu, it is possible yes but most don't do that, the apps to do this are not being kept up to date, most just have a extra partition a NTFS do this in so your no read writing in a actual OS to keep things safe.
[23:51] <vacho> zykotick9_, you are crazy, ftp rules the world.
[23:52] <urlin2u> not*
[23:52] <Fabs> vacho, if you wish to use a gui client on your destination machine
[23:52] <Fabs> look up tunnelling X over SSH
[23:52] <memand> Jordan_u is it possible to reinstall from the shell?
[23:52] <Fabs> and you can use it
[23:52] <djskidd> I need an FTP for my house
[23:52] <Fabs> if your current machine is windoes you can do it with PuTTY and xming
[23:52] <vacho> im on ubuntu sucka..
[23:52] <zebastianortis> alright, so basically use the bare minimum requirements for windows and ubuntu to run and the ntsf is the "storage" partition, will this take extra space, i.e. as compared to what i currently have there will be less storage? urlin2u
[23:52] <vacho> why would I be asking in #ubuntu if I am on a win machiner
[23:52] <Jordan_U> memand: The fact that you don't know what caused the problem is even more concerning. I don't see how this type of problem could be caused by hardware problems (like a failing hard drive) but it's worth checking if you have no other idea what could have caused this.
[23:53] <Fabs> type ssh -X username@destination
[23:53] <Fabs> then in the shell when you l og in you can type for example
[23:53] <Fabs> graphicalftpclient &
[23:53] <vacho> djskidd, Im buying my girlfriend an FTP for her car as a birthday gift
[23:53] <Fabs> and it will appear on your screen
[23:53] <vacho> are you sure?
[23:53] <Fabs> pretty sure
[23:53] <memand> Jordan_u its a brand new laptop so everything should be a ok
[23:53] <Fabs> depends if you have graphicalftpclient installed on your remote machine mwahaha
[23:54] <Fabs> replace it with the name of a real program
[23:54] <vacho> fabs: remember I am on ubuntu.
[23:54] <vacho> Fags: thanks for the help
[23:54] <Fabs> vacho: Good luck
[23:54] <urlin2u> zebastianortis, this is a problem here you don't have some basic understanding of file systems=partitions and this is making it a long drawn out conversation that is not needed to be honest.
[23:54] <musl> Is it possible to create a package from a only a system with the package installed? (like freebsd's pkg_create)
[23:54] <Jordan_U> musl: No.
[23:55] <zebastianortis> urlin2u, I understand, I will do further research and if i need further help return, thank you and thanks for watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiWoRg0iMk
[23:55] <musl> Jordan_U: That definitively? Did the dpkg guys intentionally leave that feature out?
[23:56] <vacho> that's enough, that goes for all you in the #
[23:57] <djskidd> Family Guy: Retarded, but funny
[23:57] <urlin2u> mmm spoon feeding
[23:59] <mamece2> ChogyDan: hello, im in the live cd
[23:59] <ChogyDan> mamece2: hi
[23:59] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  i could not fix the mount all thing...
[23:59] <extender> I have a VPS with ubuntu, can I install windows on it somehow?
[23:59] <ChogyDan> mamece2: can you pastebin the full error messages?
[23:59] <Guest78971> hi all!
[23:59] <mamece2> ChogyDan:  ive mounted the sda1 partition, it says cero bytes free...
[23:59] <djskidd> I once did something stupid


 tks info :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> probs related)
[14:53] <tsimonq2> <3
 been @ office unable to address, just got home.  need a nap then i'll take a peek.


[15:58] <apw> cjwatson, the lvm support in grub2, does it understnad mirroring, specifically raid1 mirrors
[15:59] <cjwatson> It's supposed to
[15:59] <cjwatson> I think
[16:00] <cjwatson> Bugs wouldn't totally surprise me
[16:00] <cjwatson> I haven't really had a decent chunk of time to work on GRUB in months :-/
[16:00] <apw> these are the type=raid1 rather than the defualt mirrors target ...
[16:00] <apw> as when i boot this machine is is showing all my volumes other than the raid1 ones
[16:01] <apw> though, it is also showing me all of the ones which are only on the first disk as well
[16:01] <apw> so it could be a different sort of issue
[16:01] <apw> both disks seem to be visible as (hdN) though


[09:24] <ryan772016> hi
[09:25] <ryan772016> nice to be here
 @kc2bez[m] do you know, if İ can already install the beta and continue to use it later regularly? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> @Halis https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/impish-indri-release-schedule/18540)
[09:56] <kc2bez[m]> @Halis You can install it now, update it and it will turn into the released version. Keep in mind that there may be changes up until release. After release the only changes will be stable release updates. Typically we don't recommend running beta/development releases on production machines.
 Thank you k2bez, that is exactly what I wanted to know :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> @Halis You can install it now, update it and it will turn into the released version. Keep in mind that there may be changes up until release. After release the only changes will be stable release updates. Typically we don't recommend running beta/development releases on production machines.)
[11:33] <kc2bez[m]> Happy to help!
 Is it planed to enable wayland for Lubuntu later? I could not find any information about that
 Not any time soon
 Okay, thank you! @emergencyrussia


[02:03] <fujin_> hi
[02:03] <fujin_> what does everyone use for an iptables init script?
[02:03] <fujin_> currently I just have a lame bash script which does like iptables -F input bla bla inserts all my rules
[02:03] <fujin_> but wanted something a bit better
[02:41] <osmosis> why does my /etc/motd  get overwritten all the time to the default?
[04:15] <stiv2k> help, something happened, ssh just went down like 10 minutes ago
[04:15] <stiv2k> on my server
[04:15] <stiv2k> im still logged into it from this one session but it will not open any new connections
[04:16] <stiv2k> i can ping the server and i can telnet on 22
[04:16] <stiv2k> restarting the service doesnt do anything
[04:23] <fujin_> checked your firewall rules?
[04:23] <stiv2k> i dont think its running a firewall, fujin_
[04:23] <fujin_> on a server???
[04:24] <stiv2k> fujin_: its behind a NAT
[04:24] <stiv2k> fujin_: iptables is installed im not sure if its running (i also dont remember installing it)
[04:25] <fujin_> well
[04:25] <fujin_> uh
[04:25] <stiv2k> what can i do?
[04:25] <fujin_> you said you tried restarting ssh?
[04:25] <stiv2k> yeah
[04:25] <fujin_> try stop ssh and kill any leftover sshd's
[04:25] <fujin_> could get risky lol
[04:26] <stiv2k> fujin_: how am i gonna be able to log back into it to start sshd again
[04:26] <fujin_> KVMoIP?
[04:26] <stiv2k> nope
[04:26] <fujin_> lol
[04:26] <fujin_> you're not then, I'd advise not doing that
[04:26] <fujin_> why not try reboot the box
[04:26] <stiv2k> i couldt
[04:26] <stiv2k> could
[04:26] <stiv2k> but would rather avoid it :P
[04:26] <stiv2k> i guess i can make a script to do it
[04:26] <stiv2k> like a simple bash script
[04:27] <fujin_> or do /etc/init.d/ssh stop && killall sshd && /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:27] <stiv2k> yea
[04:28] <steve____> fujin_: that owned me
[04:28] <steve____> i still have access to webmin
[04:28] <steve____> should i try that
[04:29] <steve____> maybe restart networking /..\
[04:29] <fujin_> yeah
[04:29] <fujin_> did it start sshd back up?
[04:29] <steve____> i dont know
[04:29] <steve____> it kicked me out and i cant get back
[04:29] <steve____> ill telnet it to check
[04:29] <steve____> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1
[04:29] <fujin_> so what's it doing?
[04:29] <fujin_> not asking for a username?
[04:29] <steve____> yeah
[04:29] <steve____> pretty much
[04:30] <steve____> or password
[04:30] <steve____> it just sits there
[04:30] <wasabi> sounds like it's waiting for reverse resolve. wait.
[04:30] <fujin_> that's what I was about to say :0
[04:30] <steve____> its on my LAN!
[04:31] <wasabi> do you have reverse resolve on your lan?
[04:31] <steve____> dont think so
[04:31] <steve____> its not working for me or my room mate
[04:33] <steve____> wtf
[04:33] <steve____> it was working like half an hour ago
[04:33] <steve____> what happened
[04:37] <steve____> fujin_: wasabi: does it work for you?
[04:37] <steve____> ssh neoturbine.net
[04:37] <fujin_> does a keyexchange
[04:37] <fujin_> asked me for a password
[04:37] <steve____> ok
[04:37] <steve____> umm
[04:38] <steve____> wtf
[04:38] <steve____> it's still not working for me
[04:40] <steve____> why is it not asking me for a password
[04:44] <steve____> hello?
[04:50] <mralphabet> steve____: you are using webmin on an ubuntu box?
[04:51] <steve____> mralphabet: yea
[04:51] <mralphabet> !webmin
[04:51] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[04:51] <steve____> mralphabet: any alternatives?
[04:51] <mralphabet> ebox is the one currently being bantered around
[04:52] <steve____> mralphabet: what about usermin?
[04:52] <steve____> also the whole ssh thing seems to be a problem on my client
[04:52] <steve____> but i still dont know what
[04:52] <mralphabet> use putty
[04:52] <steve____> im in linux tho
[04:53] <fujin_> have you checked your nameserver configuration?
[05:01] <cld2> is it possible to get the messages that scroll buy during boot? after the kernel takes over before the login? dmesg is not showing the hardware errors I see. thanks.
[05:09] <stiv2k> i dunno
[05:09] <stiv2k> it works again
[05:09] <stiv2k> that was SO weid
[05:09] <stiv2k> weird
[05:30] <stiv2k> hey
[05:30] <stiv2k> doing `who` on my server
[05:30] <stiv2k> shows me logged in like 8 times
[05:30] <stiv2k> i only have 2 terminal windows open thouhg
[05:30] <stiv2k> ....
[05:30] <stiv2k> how do i log myself out of them
[05:46] <fujin_> killall bash
[06:26] <nealmcb> fujin_: shorewall is a firewall config tool in main with some nice failsafe options
[06:26] <fujin_> jesus christ
[06:27] <fujin_> you did not just suggest shorewall to me
[06:27] <fujin_> seriously, I'd have to be a retard to use shorewall. I can't believe you brought it up in a server channel
[06:27] <nealmcb> fujin_: have it your way....
[06:28] <fujin_> found an init script, anywayz.
[06:28] <fujin_> from Gentoo
[06:28] <fujin_> modified for ubuntu
[06:29] <nealmcb> what don't you like about shorewall?
[06:29] <fujin_> it's rubbish and not suitable for deployment as a layer3 firewall on individual servers?
[06:29] <fujin_> maybe for a noob with a home network
[06:29] <fujin_> "the red network"
[06:29] <fujin_> lol @ shorewall.
[06:30] <fujin_> I'll stick to my handwritten iptables.
[06:30] <ajmitch> please do that then
[06:30] <nealmcb> fujin_: could you be specific?
[06:30] <ajmitch> hello nealmcb :)
[06:30] <nealmcb> ajmitch: howdy!
[06:31] <fujin_> how more specific do you need?
[06:31] <fujin_> it's an abstraction layer to something which isn't complex
[06:31] <fujin_> =dumb
[06:31] <fujin_> eof
[06:31] <nealmcb> fujin_: bug reports, better alternatives which are supported, etc.
[07:02] <fujin_> I don't need bug reports or better alternatives to dislike a product.
[07:02] <fujin_> especially a mangled under-functional product like that
[08:47] <stiv2k_> hey can i re-attach a screen running under a different user on my system?  I am the sys admin.
[09:20] <soren> stiv2k_: Is this something you just need this once?
[09:33] <mindframe> id say su to that user and screen -r
[11:08] <ph8> hey all, i'm looking for a bug to sink my teeth into. So i'm @ bugs.launchpad.net and i'm trying to search all bug reports for 'one project'
[11:08] <ph8> which project is ubuntu server though? :o
[11:08] <ph8> 'ubuntu-instant-server?'
[11:10] <kgoetz> afaik ubuntu-sever doesnt have its own project, its 'just part of ubuntu'
[11:11] <ph8> ah ok
[11:11] <ph8> so how can i view specific bugs?
[11:13] <ajmitch> you'd look at bugs for the packages, such as samba or apache2 or php5
[11:13] <ph8> ah i see
[11:13] <ph8> so coding for the ubuntu server team is really the same as the ubuntu core team, but you might concentrate on different packages?
[11:13] <ajmitch> yes
[11:13] <ph8> thanks
[12:04] <kgoetz> anybody know what replaces the iftab file? i seem to have an eth1 and eth2, but no eth0
[12:14] <atamurad> hi, what's the default mysql root password on ubuntu server?
[02:34] <ScottK> Who on the server team is familiar with pacakaging mysql related packages?  We're having a problem in #ubuntu-motu that could use some assistance.
[03:31] <reya276> how can I fix this error "JNDI listen port in jndi.properties blocked by TCP/IP filtering or firewall"
[03:33] <reya276> how can I fix this error "JNDI listen port in jndi.properties blocked by TCP/IP filtering or firewall"
[04:09] <ruben-> How can I upgrade my version of mysql-server, I updated the tree, but it still says it's the newest version :\
[04:10] <sommer> ruben-: did you apt-get upgrade or apt-get update?
[04:10] <ruben-> update
[04:10] <ruben-> With apt-get upgrade it doesn't show it'll upgrade my mysql-server version..
[04:10] <ruben-> Since it's the "newest" version, but it contains bugs, so I need a newer version
[04:10] <sommer> then you're should be at the latest already.
[04:11] <ruben-> 5.0.22 is installed, bug is fixed in 5.0.42, they're at version 5.0.45
[04:13] <sommer> ruben-: you can file a bug in Launch Pad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[04:13] <sommer> or you could compile from source in the meantime.
[04:13] <ruben-> It's no ubuntu bug
[04:13] <ruben-> It's a bug in MySQL
[04:14] <ruben-> http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=27363
[04:14] <sommer> ruben-: right you can file a bug asking for the patch to be backported or MySQL version to be packaged.  I beleive it's too late for Gutsy though.
[04:14] <ruben-> I've got 6.096
[04:15] <ruben-> I've got 6.06*
[04:17] <sommer> ah you could always upgrade as well, but that usually depends on your environment.
[04:17] <kgoetz> change release isnt often a option in production environments :(
[04:20] <Nafallo> 6.06.1 is better...
[04:20] <mralphabet> ruben-: what you need is a backport of mysql
[04:20] <mralphabet> ruben-: the 'latest' version of software is not always available on 6.06
[04:21] <Nafallo> 6.06.1
[04:21] <kgoetz> .1 is kind of asumed :|
[04:21] <mralphabet> ruben-: at least not through repos ;(
[04:24] <kgoetz> backports might
[04:30] <nealmcb> server team meeting in 30 minutes: wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[04:43] <Nafallo> ooh
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, hey mate
[04:47] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Just woke up in time to the meeting :-)
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, meeting?
[04:48] <pschulz01> ubuntu-server..
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh right
[04:48] <pschulz01> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam?highlight=%28server%29%7C%28team%29
[05:05] <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: My idea for documentation.
[05:05] <pschulz01> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulSchulz/UbuntuServerDocumentation
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, looking
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, interesting idea.
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> how does this differ per se from the howtos in the ubuntu wiki/community help?
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> btw. got 60 photos on the 'short list'
[06:44] <gnilor> hey anybody know of a repository that has a newer version of parted? the current one in 7.4 and all others appears to be 1.7 which has a bug that fails to work for raid5 arrays larger than 2TB
[06:47] <Yahooadam> does somthing like cfdisk work ?
[06:48] <mathiaz> gnilor: did you check ubuntu-backports ?
[06:48] <gnilor> yes i believe i checked every possible place
[06:49] <gnilor> I/we just manually compiled it, and were wondering if it was anywhere otherwise I might look for an ubuntu packaging tutorial to host it
[06:50] <Yahooadam> oh lol :p
[06:50] <Yahooadam> i thought u were saying u needed somthing that worked, not that you wanted to host a newer version ;)
[06:51] <gnilor> well not really want to, but if it isn't there we might as well do it ourselves right ;)
[06:51] <gnilor> there is an open bug from a while ago, so i guess it's not really priority for ubuntu devs right now
[06:52] <gnilor> (I'm actually not too familiar with vesion management from ubuntu, but it seems to me that parted 1.8.x probably should make it in sometime in the not too distant future)
[06:59] <mralphabet> gnilor: you may want to check #ubuntu-motu for packaging suggestions
[07:19] <Znuff> Hello. Under Ubuntu, how does lvm use the pv's? by uuid or by device name? I think I'll have to do some device movements in my fileserver and I'm not sure what will happen to my lvm.
[07:20] <Styles> Anybody use or has used Hyperic HQ?
[08:46] <Styles> How to run vista from XP = turn on all the flashy crap in XP, change the background image, take some memory out of the box and clock down the CPU. Then hose Media Player.  You now have a Vista box that works like a charm.
[08:48] <gnilor> I don't want to go down the lane of OS flame waring, but for comical relief: you might also want to delete all the music from your mp3player, plug it in and believe it is enlarging your ram to run faster.
[08:49] <Znuff> oh, and you could throw all your pirated media out
[08:51] <mralphabet> xp doesn't have the poker game
[08:52] <Znuff> word
[08:52] <Znuff> and the pretty cards in solitaire
[08:57] <Yahooadam> im sorry, but what does Vista Vs XP have to do with ubuntu servers :S
[09:25] <mralphabet> Yahooadam: absolutely nothing
[09:27] <sahafeez> question - i am building a new asterisk box from an old pile of hardware. i have a promise sata 150sx card. the installer see 3 drives and not the mirror set i setup on the card. is this normal?
[09:28] <mralphabet> I am by no means an authoritative answer, but recent (ie the last 2 years or so) promise sata cards do not seem well supported in the linux kernel
[09:30] <sahafeez> ugh
[09:30] <sahafeez> i did not want to have to buy a new card.
[09:39] <sahafeez>  libata's "sata_promise" driver (for tx2/tx4, production quality driver) or "sata_sx4" (for sx4, beta quality driver) provides support a/o 2004-02-25 (included in kernel 2.6.x).
[09:39] <sahafeez> http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[09:39] <sahafeez> sorry - http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#promise
[09:39] <sahafeez> read that and tell me if i am reading it wrong. it should be supported
[09:39] <sahafeez> as a raid
[09:41] <mralphabet> I have a promise sata card as well . . . and it doesn't work.
[09:41] <Yahooadam> saharfeez - the raid should be seen as a drive i believe ...
[09:41] <mralphabet> I don't know that I have tried everything, but linux doesn't see anything past the card /shrug
[09:43] <ivoks> it's simple
[09:43] <ivoks> promise changed firmware, making open source driver unusable
[09:43] <ivoks> they provide their own driver, but for 2.4 kernel
[09:43] <sahafeez> sorry - the raid should be see as each drive or just the raid drive
[09:44] <sahafeez> i have it setup as a mirror but it sees each drive.
[09:44] <sahafeez> i think maybe i will just software raid it.
[09:44] <ivoks> forget about promise, supertrack, fastrack...
[09:44] <sahafeez> it is what i have.
[09:45] <ivoks> i know, but it's not worth it
[09:45] <ivoks> you will get very bad performance
[09:45] <sahafeez> other cards are 3ware but i need this to work. i will just use it for jbod and software raid
[09:45] <ivoks> it's better to have onboard intel SATA and mdadm raid
[09:45] <sahafeez> it is for an asterisk box for 10 people.
[09:46] <ivoks> 3ware on the other hand is best you can get for sata
[09:46] <sahafeez> yah..i have 3 of them
[09:46] <Yahooadam> sahafeez, if the raid softwaer can see it, it should see each drive, otherwise, the raid should be seen as 1 big drive
[09:48] <Yahooadam> i believe anyway, im not a raid expert :p
[09:48] <Yahooadam> p.s. software raid is pretty sucky, ofc how much depends if your raid controller is a decent one
[09:48] <ivoks> it's not sucky...
[09:48] <ivoks> software raid has its advantages
[09:49] <soren> I prefer software raid, actually.
[09:49] <ivoks> (where software raid is linux mdadm raid, not cheap so-called raid controllers)
[09:50] <Yahooadam> what advantage does software raid have
[09:50] <Yahooadam> except u dont have to pay for a raid controller :p
[09:50] <mralphabet> in os monitoring is better with mdadm
[09:50] <mralphabet> a lot of the linux tools that are provided don't work off cli if they work at all
[09:51] <mralphabet> *linux tools from vendors
[09:51] <soren> You don't have to pay for a *two* raid-controllers, actually. If your raid controller dies, you have to have an identical one if you want to have even a smidgeon of chance of getting your data back.
[09:51] <ivoks> and most of the time linux md raid provides better performance
[09:51] <ivoks> processors these days are really fast :)
[09:52] <soren> The performance overhead of software raid is negligable these days anyway.
[09:52] <mralphabet> software raid in windows is garbage though
[09:52] <soren> mralphabet: don't do that, then :)
[09:53] <ivoks> YourMomsHero: http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html
[09:53] <ivoks> beh...
[09:53] <ivoks> Yahooadam: http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html
[09:54] <mralphabet> soren: I don't if I can help it ;)
[09:54] <kudeta> hello
[09:55] <kudeta> ive added to interfaces an ip that my server has been allocated. but its not working (no ping etc) is there something i might have forgotten?
[09:55] <kudeta> it says its up but.. :S
[09:56] <Yahooadam> isnt one of these btter then SW raid http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=311568&cks=ASS&assoc=8070E5CC-28EB-433D-8345-6176BFE08D72
[09:56] <Yahooadam> :p
[09:56] <ivoks> promise? :)
[09:56] <mralphabet> ;(
[09:56] <ivoks> i wouldn't use it even as a darts target :)
[09:57] <Yahooadam> http://www.europc.co.uk/pages/ProductPage.aspx?PID=45092&refId=Pricegrabber
[09:57] <Yahooadam> that better :p
[09:57] <Yahooadam> appart from its PCI-X >_<
[09:57] <kudeta> i made it identical to eth0, but just changed te last ip digit (they are consecutive) where neccess.
[09:57] <ivoks> http://www.3ware.com/
[09:58] <ivoks> kudeta: you can't ping any address?
[09:58] <Yahooadam> nice :p
[09:58] <kudeta> no  can
[09:58] <kudeta> leme explain
[09:58] <kudeta> i have  remote serve ron dapper
[09:58] <kudeta> i was allocated 3 ips
[09:58] <kudeta> call them
[09:59] <kudeta> *.*.*.1
[09:59] <kudeta> *.*.*.2
[09:59] <kudeta> *.*.*.3
[09:59] <Yahooadam> "for red hot RAID 6 performance, delivering over 700MB/s RAID 6 reads and 600MB/s RAID 6 writes."
[09:59] <kudeta> but only .1 was active
[09:59] <Yahooadam> i want that for my gaming machine :p
[09:59] <ivoks> kudeta: did you add auto?
[09:59] <kudeta> yea
[10:00] <Znuff> hmmm, I wonder why my ubuntu-server just stopped bootin
[10:00] <ivoks> kudeta: can you ssh to .1?
[10:00] <Znuff> booting
[10:00] <kudeta> ivoks
[10:00] <kudeta> yea .1 works np
[10:00] <kudeta> has been for months :)
[10:00] <kudeta> i need .2 so i can run a tor server discretely
[10:00] <ivoks> kudeta: hwo did you called those other interfaces?
[10:01] <ivoks> call, even...
[10:01] <kudeta> the original one was eth0 (.1)
[10:01] <kudeta> the new one is eth0:0 (thats .2)
[10:01] <ivoks> ok
[10:01] <ivoks> and if you do ifup eth0:0, what happens?
[10:02] <kudeta> already configured
[10:02] <ivoks> and 'ifconfig' shows all interfaces?
[10:02] <kudeta> yup
[10:02] <ivoks> so, can you ping those IPs from that server?
[10:02] <kudeta> yea
[10:03] <kudeta> i can ping internally
[10:03] <ivoks> then it's not your problem
[10:03] <kudeta> but only .1 works outside
[10:03] <sahafeez> is there a guide to setting up raid from the installer. i am having issues understanding the logic of the installer. i have 3 disk and i want to mirror 2 and hot spare the 3rd
[10:03] <kudeta> oh really?
[10:03] <kudeta> host issue?
[10:03] <ivoks> your ISP doesn't pass traffic to those IPs
[10:03] <kudeta> hmm
[10:03] <kudeta> it says in my email confirmation i was allocatd *.*.*.1 2 and 3
[10:04] <ivoks> ask them why you can't ping .2 and .3 from outside
[10:04] <kudeta> ok
[10:04] <kudeta> thanks ivoks
[10:04] <ivoks> IPs are up on server
[10:06] <ivoks> np
[10:11] <Znuffy> what's the proper procedure in restoring grub?
[10:11] <sommer> nealmcb: thanks for the correction...I asked in #ubuntu-doc about the date and still put it in wrong
[10:13] <ivoks> Znuffy: installation of it
[10:13] <Znuffy> let's see if I manage to do this without / but only with /boot
[10:14] <mathiaz> jdstrand: what's the status of the default LAMP page ?
[10:14] <ivoks> Znuffy: you can't :) there is no grub binary in /boot
[10:14] <Znuffy> ivoks, but it's on the live cd
[10:14] <jdstrand> mathiaz: I issued the bug report, which you ack'd.  I then tried follwoing up with infinity, but had a hard time getting hold of him
[10:15] <ivoks> Znuffy: i would suggest booting from live cd and then chrooting to real /
[10:15] <jdstrand> mathiaz: so basically, nothing :(
[10:15] <Znuffy> ivoks, I can't, / is on lvm
[10:15] <mathiaz> jdstrand: ok. I was just going through the Action points of the last meetings.
[10:15] <ivoks> eh :/
[10:15] <Znuffy> and it seems that NOBODY thought of shipping lvm on the live cd...
[10:15] <jdstrand> mathiaz: I haven't checked his tz since I started, but we never seem to be in sync lately
[10:15] <mathiaz> jdstrand: infinity is in australia, so it's hard for us to get a hold on him
[10:15] <jdstrand> :)
[10:15] <ivoks> Znuffy: live CD doesn't support LVM
[10:16] <ivoks> Znuffy: and if you installed server, there's a rescue option on server install cd
[10:16] <jdstrand> mathiaz: I can email him then
[10:16] <Znuffy> wish I'd had a server cd around
[10:16] <ivoks> Znuffy: well, it's not a big deal
[10:16] <Znuffy> seems setup (hd0) succeeded
[10:16] <Znuffy> ivoks, and no spare blank!
[10:17] <ivoks> Znuffy: now reboot
[10:17] <Znuffy> now, I wonder if this thing will actually boot o.O
[10:19] <ivoks> if you passwd correct root() command in grub, it should
[10:21] <Znuffy> ivoks, yeah, but I was afraid of lvm doing something wrong, as I have some devices moved around
[10:21] <Znuffy> if only I could actually figure out what caused this
[10:22] <Znuffy> was working last night, and this morning *boom*
[10:23] <ivoks> grub has nothing to do with lvm
[10:23] <Znuffy> nevermind lvm
[10:24] <Znuffy> I don't get it why this thing would randomly reboot and lose its mbr
[10:24] <Znuffy> last line in /var/log/messages.0 is "fileserver syslogd 1.4.1#20ubuntu4: restart."
[10:25] <ivoks> :))
[10:25] <ivoks> let me guess, in 6AM?
[10:26] <ivoks> syslogd is periodicly restarted; every restart of it, inside new day, creates new /var/log/messages
[10:26] <ivoks> if your computer is up 24/7
[10:27] <ivoks> then that's in 6:25AM
[10:27] <sahafeez> question - i do not see raid as a choice for a partition type in the installer. what am i missing?
[10:27] <sahafeez> do i have to setup lvm to use raid?
[10:27] <ivoks> sahafeez: server install?
[10:27] <sahafeez> yes
[10:27] <ivoks> sahafeez: you have to create raid partitions
[10:27] <sahafeez> yes. i know. it is not a choice
[10:27] <ivoks> when you create partition, select 'use as linux raid'
[10:28] <ivoks> instead of ext3
[10:28] <sahafeez> yes, it is not on the list is what i am saying
[10:28] <ivoks> what is on the list?
[10:28] <sahafeez> use as linux raid
[10:28] <sahafeez> is not there. etx3, etx3 xfs, etc are all there
[10:29] <ivoks> what are those all? is lvm there?
[10:29] <sahafeez> no.
[10:29] <sahafeez> 1st screen - manual. ok get a list of disk. pic a disk.
[10:30] <sahafeez> create a partition. pick that. try to change type. no love
[10:30] <ivoks> well it was there for last 70 server installs i did :)
[10:31] <ivoks> you are using what version?
[10:32] <sahafeez> 7.04
[10:33] <sahafeez> okay...think i have it now.
[10:33] <sahafeez> rebooted
[10:33] <sahafeez> strange
[10:33] <spiekey> hi
[10:34] <ivoks> maybe md module wasn't loaded
[10:34] <sahafeez> ubuntu is great however the disksetup is the worst
[10:34] <ivoks> ...for some reason...
[10:34] <spiekey> what do i need to set to allow key and passwd auth with sshd?
[10:34] <ivoks> nothing, that's by default
[10:34] <spiekey> RSAAuthentication yes - PubkeyAuthentication yes
[10:34] <spiekey> what else?
[10:35] <ivoks> spiekey: that's by default
[10:35] <spiekey> i changed my friking config :P
[10:35] <ivoks> that's all
[10:37] <spiekey> can i install the default config somehow?
[10:37] <spiekey> without locking myself out? ;)
[11:07] <cld2> I know this is generic but, on my home network I start an rsync and it goes for about 1 min at 75 megs ber second then slowly drops to 4 megs a second and just kinda sits there, some times it will spike back up to 30megs a second. its all wired all on the same switch. thanks.
[11:08] <mralphabet> large files? small files?
[11:09] <nijaba> cld2: what about proc activity ?  How many files are you syncing ?
[11:09] <cld2> mralphabet: largish files, around 2 gig
[11:09] <cld2> nijaba: what do I look at in proc to see this? sorry im the suck at linux internals
[11:10] <nijaba> cld2: I meant processor
[11:10] <cld2> oh, I dont know how to check that either. both boxes have 2ghz single core amd's
[11:11] <cld2> im rsyncing over nfs with progress turned on. so I can see that sometimes it can be fast.. and every now and then it will sustain 30-40 megs a second.
[11:12] <nijaba> so, can you (a) provide us with the result displayed by rsync when using --stats option
[11:12] <nijaba> cld2: (b) run top while syncing and look at your load average
[11:13] <cld2> top shows 1.9 on the box doing the sync
[11:13] <cld2> so the cpu is just over worked.
[11:13] <cld2> now its at 2.15
[11:14] <nijaba> cld2: what options do you have ?
[11:14] <cld2> nijaba: I dont understand sorry.
[11:14] <nijaba> cld2: it could be that comparing changes for unchanged file is taking a lot of local activity
[11:14] <cld2> options for what?
[11:14] <nijaba> cld2: options : what is your rsync command line
[11:14] <cld2> oh, i just did rsync --progress *.mpg /new/dir
[11:15] <cld2> there are no file in the place these files are being rsycned to.
[11:16] <cld2> and scp yeilds about 11/mbs and I figured that was because of the encryption overhead
[11:17] <nijaba> cld2: can you do an 'ifconfig' and send us the results to see if there are network errors
[11:17] <nijaba> cld2: encryption is not that much of an overhead if you have a "modern" machine
[11:18] <cld2> nijaba: thanks. I would hope 2ghz is modern enought.
[11:18] <cld2> on both hosts i have zero errors, dropped, overuns, or collisions
[11:18] <nijaba> cld2: yep, sounds modern
[11:19] <cld2> yeah, its very strange. thanks for the troubleshooting help.
[11:19] <nijaba> cld2: and when you do a cp locally, you never noticed any slowing down ?
[11:20] <cld2> what kills me is I made this transfer yesterday in all of about 11 min, getting about 30megs/s the entire time, but had the wrong permissions on the folder. after I fixed that and retried its just been slumping
[11:20] <cld2> I cant say, this is a mythtv box. it never seems slow
[11:21] <nijaba> cld2: in your top, what are the top 3 process in processor usage ?
[11:21] <cld2> on the reciving end no, never any cp slowness. thats the backend/file server
[11:21] <fujin_> hdparm -tT
[11:21] <cld2> rsync,rsync,pdflush
[11:27] <m12> evening all
[11:27] <cld2> fujin_: /dev/sda: Timing cached reads:   1034 MB in  2.00 seconds = 516.61 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads:  220 MB in  3.02 seconds =  72.90 MB/sec
[11:27] <m12> i am having problem issuing command : apache2-ssl-certificates
[11:28] <m12> it just says stop
[11:30] <cld2> whats strange is that scp will hold a steady 11meg/s
[11:32] <spiekey> when i create a file on a samba share with , it looks like  on the shell.
[11:32] <spiekey> how can i fix this?
[11:33] <fujin_> utf8
[11:34] <spiekey> mount ext3 with utf8 you mean?
[11:34] <m12> what packages i need to get SSL runing on ubuntu ?
[11:36] <m12> i have instaled apache2.2-common , openssl and ca-certificates, do i need somthing more ?
[11:36] <nijaba> spiekey: in /etc/fstab put option iocharset=utf8 or iocharset=iso8859-15 as you would like
[11:38] <nijaba> m12: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Apache2_SSL_in_Ubuntu
[11:38] <m12> tnx nijaba
[11:38] <spiekey> nijaba: /dev/sda6       /mnt/data       ext3    iocharset=iso8859-15       0       2   like this?
[11:38] <spiekey> mount -o remount /mnt/data
[11:38] <spiekey> mount: /mnt/data not mounted already, or bad option
[11:43] <nijaba> spiekey: sorry, iocharset not an option for ext3, I thought you were mounting a fat volume
[11:43] <m12> nijaba, libapache-mod-ssl is for apache , not apache2 :/
[11:46] <spiekey> whats the option called?
[11:47] <nijaba> m12: ssl is there by default now I beleive.  just "a2enmod ssl" should work
[11:48] <nijaba> spiekey: what option ?
[11:48] <spiekey> to use utf8 on ext3
[11:49] <nijaba> spiekey: don't have the option, just using the charset of the machine is running
[11:49] <spiekey> ah, okay
[11:52] <nijaba> spiekey: since your machine is the server, in the global section of your samba conf
[11:52] <nijaba> spiekey: try setting unix charset = ISO8859-1
[11:53] <nijaba>        dos charset = 850
[11:54] <spiekey> thanks
[11:58] <nijaba> spiekey: also check for presence of "display charset = LOCALE"
[11:58] <m12> nijaba , that tutorial installs apache-common with libapache-mod-ssl, think it is for apache1 and still not working
[11:59] <nijaba> m12: sorry, I did not write it, just thought it looked right
[12:02] <m12> ye i guessed, just saying it isnt working :)
[12:03] <nijaba> m12: there is also a lengthy discussion on the subject on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4466
[12:07] <m12> it seems broken command of apache2 on launchpad
[12:09] <m12> all very good tutorials until u found out apache2-ssl-certificates is broken command
[12:09] <m12> then u stuck
[12:09] <nijaba> m12 so you are stuck generating your cert, right ?
[12:10] <nijaba> m12: wait a sec, I think I have an ugly script somewhere for this
[12:10] <m12> i cant start generating
[12:10] <m12> cause it refuses comand
[12:10] <m12> and now i have read that there are some files missing in apache2
[12:11] <m12> very ugly it seems
[12:13] <nijaba> m12: http://pastebin.com/d1a1f1063 will generate your own ca cert
[12:14] <m12> i check, tnx
[12:15] <nijaba> m12: http://pastebin.com/d2f8626f3 will generate a cert for a specific server
[12:15] <nijaba> m12: as I told you, very ugly (but working) scripting
[12:15] <m12> hmm
[12:15] <nijaba> m12: will need some editing to have your own values
[12:15] <m12> yes


[07:11] <dholbach> good morning
[08:26] <czajkowski> bkerensa: nope Oscon is all Amy and that US team
[08:26] <czajkowski> mhall119: With Bells on!
[08:27] <czajkowski> I'm over in NYC next month for our World event
[08:45] <czajkowski> mhall119: you and popey will have to wear them on a call sometime and take a pic for me!
[08:46] <popey> haha ☻
[08:47] <czajkowski> popey: I'm serious :)
[08:48] <popey> hard to get two people on screen at once in a hangout

[08:49] <czajkowski> I know even harder when on the same team :p
[09:03] <popey> well, we're both in Malta next week, I'll try and remember to pack mine
[09:03] <czajkowski> yay \o/
[09:03] <czajkowski> sprint?
[09:03] <popey> ya
[09:03] <czajkowski> will actually be back in the UK next week, mothership is invading and we're going to the chelsea flower show
[09:03] <czajkowski> :/
[09:28] <elfy> popey: ping
[09:29] <popey> elfy: yo
[09:30] <elfy> hi popey - got a favour to ask of you - any chance you could mention the Membership Board call for new people in a podcast - the responses up to now have been slow
[09:31] <popey> sure, but not for another 2 weeks
[09:31] <elfy> anything will help at the moment ;)
[09:32] <elfy> thanks a bunch :)
[09:32] <popey> np
[13:05] <mhall119> czajkowski: I wore it to our last CC hangout, but you weren't there :(
[13:14] <czajkowski> mhall119: I know that whole holiday thing got in the way
[13:14] <mhall119> darn holidays
[13:15] <czajkowski> it is 9:15am in nyc right
[13:15] <mhall119> yup
[13:22] <czajkowski> damn timezones
[15:05] <jcastro> jono_,
[15:05] <jcastro> man, this explains so much
[15:05] <jcastro> http://www.policymic.com/articles/89363/science-shows-how-drummers-brains-are-actually-different-from-everybody-elses