[03:47] <_jason> mips: d4x is in the repos.  It runs fine.  I'd say it is the download manager I like the most
[03:48] <Romeyo> hello someone help me :(
[03:48] <mips> _jason: yeah saw it in the repos and saw lots of people recommending it
[03:48] <_jason> Romeyo: We can try to help you if you ask a question
[03:49] <smoser> forgive me if i sound confused. I did the following with breezy and backports sources in sources.list: apt-get update ; DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=risky apt-get source --compile ffmpeg; dpkg -r ffmpeg; dpkg -i ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:49] <_jason> mips: yeah, if you are looking for a download manager, you should just install all of the ones in the repos and choose the one you like.
[03:49] <smoser> and now apt wants to upgrade (replace) my ffmpeg with the same version but from sources
[03:50] <_jason> mips: that's what I did, I ended up sticking with d4x
[03:50] <mips> _jason: Thx. Think I'll just use d4x
[03:50] <esoteric> hi guys... setting up new network... had comp A as firewall gateway (<IP_ADDRESS>) and comp B is behind it (ubuntu) now other comps can use A as gateway fine... but B is having trouble.... <IP_ADDRESS> is set as gateway in /etc/networking/interfaces  and when i do a "route" its listed there (but takes a long time to appear) any ideas what im forgetting?
[03:51] <newuser> ok folks me and my newbie problems come to AGAIN.
[03:51] <drcode> hi all
[03:51] <newuser> what are the treminal commands to activate wlan0.
[03:51] <drcode> any idea of console client for dcpp?
[03:51] <nalioth> drcode: do you mean dc++ ?
[03:52] <drcode> yes
[03:52] <drcode> I run linux server in console mode
[03:52] <nalioth> drcode: there is a console and gui app in the repos for dc++
[03:52] <drcode> realy
[03:52] <drcode> how it call ?
[03:52] <drcode> is there also client/server?
[03:52] <nalioth> drcode: apt-cache search dc++
[03:52] <drcode> thanx
[03:52] <Romeyo> _jason: i have a onboard network card which is sis190.. its not supported by the kernel. my mobo support site gave me a driver file whish is sis190.c and asked me to rebuild the kernel with it. i downloaded latest kernel . i can't see the old kernel. and most make commands aren't working. pls help me in this issue. am using breeze, amd 64 edition
[03:53] <esoteric> also comp B can ping and see comp A no problem
[03:53] <esoteric> and vise versa
[03:53] <drcode> there are lot of libdc++
[03:54] <drcode> libstdc++5
[03:54] <drcode> but no client dc++
[03:54] <nalioth> drcode: do you have all your repos enabled?
[03:54] <_jason> Romeyo: I can't help you too much with that as I am fairly inexperienced with reocmpiling the kernel, but concerning the make commands, is the command not found or are you getting errors?
[03:55] <xiaogil> Is there a pastebin somewhere on the net to put screenshots ?
[03:55] <_jason> !pastebin
[03:55] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:55] <drcode> reops?
[03:55] <drcode> what is it?
[03:55] <Romeyo> _jason: it says not found
[03:56] <_jason> Romeyo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:56] <_jason> Romeyo: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:56] <_jason> Romeyo: I think you need gcc-3.4 for the kernel
[03:57] <Romeyo> ok
[03:57] <Romeyo> _jason: apt-get needs internet connection na?
[03:57] <_jason> Romeyo: build-essential is on the cd, I don't think gcc-3.4 is but not sure
[03:58] <Pygi> yes, it does require internet
[03:58] <_jason> Romeyo: either way, if gcc-3.4 isn't in the cd go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the deb with another computer.  Then transfer it over
[03:58] <Romeyo> hmm i have to configure my lan card... right now in linux as i want internet connection i wanna recompile :(
[03:58] <drcode> nalioth:what do  U mean >?
[03:58] <Romeyo> oh
[03:59] <butcherbird> drcode: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' are all the urls uncommented?
[03:59] <drcode> yes
[03:59] <drcode> thay are
[03:59] <drcode> I use breezy
[03:59] <butcherbird> drcode: multiverse added as well?
[04:00] <drcode> let me check it out
[04:00] <Xenguy> .oO(I may as well be on dialup)
[04:00] <drcode> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[04:00] <drcode> yep
[04:01] <Romeyo> ubuntu supports only gcc version 3.4.0?
[04:01] <butcherbird> drcode: and youve 'sudo apt-get update'?
[04:01] <drcode> yes
[04:01] <nalioth> drcode: make sure it says 'universe multiverse' everywhere you see 'universe' in your sources.list
[04:01] <nalioth> Romeyo: yes it does
[04:01] <Romeyo> okies
[04:01] <Romeyo> so shall i d/l 3.4.5 then?
[04:01] <nalioth> Romeyo: d/l whatever you like
[04:02] <drcode> k
[04:02] <Romeyo> ok
[04:03] <drcode> any idea of dc++ clinet/server like mldonkey?
[04:03] <nalioth> drcode: search sourceforge.net
[04:04] <drcode> I did
[04:04] <drcode> with out luck
[04:04] <drcode> I saw some cliet but its gui
[04:05] <pinucset> one think, i'm trying to give format (ext3) to a partition but qtparted or gparted cant, the option for doing this is in black
[04:05] <pinucset> :S
[04:06] <soundray> pinucset, maybe the partition is mounted?
[04:07] <pinucset> soundray, no, partition magic cant to...
[04:08] <soundray> pinucset, do you have a strange disk layout?
[04:08] <Alakazam> im a NEENJAH!
[04:08] <nalioth> pinucset: is the partition ext2 now?
[04:09] <esoteric> is there anywhere appart from /etc/network/interfaces and using "route" that can set the default gateway?
[04:09] <pinucset> nalioth the partition doesnt have format now
[04:10] <nalioth> pinucset: let gparted make a ext2 file system
[04:10] <Alakazam> esoteric, you're going about it the hard way
[04:10] <Alakazam> go to system, settings, networking
[04:10] <Alakazam> Or something of that nature
[04:11] <esoteric> Alakazam, this is a server install
[04:11] <Alakazam> oh
[04:11] <Alakazam> why didnt you just install X and disable it @ boot
[04:11] <Alakazam> so when you need it you can use it.
[04:11] <Alakazam> and what kinda server.
[04:11] <Alakazam> :\
[04:11] <esoteric> and normaly just putting it in /etc/network/interfaces is fine... but its not working today
[04:11] <Alakazam> a REAL server?
[04:11] <trae> !gimp
[04:11] <ubotu> methinks gimp is at http://www.gimp.org
[04:11] <esoteric> yea real :) so i wont be doing that
[04:12] <Alakazam> lol
[04:12] <esoteric> mail server
[04:12] <trae> anyone know how to get gimp 2.3 for Ubuntu?
[04:12] <Alakazam> use Mandriva.
[04:12] <Alakazam> its cake for setting servers up
[04:12] <Alakazam> or...
[04:12] <Alakazam> try apt-get install webmin
[04:12] <pinucset> nalioth , i select the partition wich i want to give format (it is called Unallocated) i push right button and it says:  "it is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions, if you want more partitions you should create an extended partiition. Such a partition can contain other partitions". What must i do? :S
[04:13] <nalioth> pinucset: make an extended one or learn your console commands
[04:13] <pinucset> how can i create an extended one?
[04:13] <nalioth> pinucset: there should be an option there
[04:13] <snowblink> esoteric, what is the problem you're having?
[04:13] <terminal30> hello
[04:13] <terminal30> all
[04:13] <soundray> nalioth, not if he already has four primaries.
[04:13] <terminal30> how are you
[04:14] <pinucset> nalioth i dont see anything about...
[04:14] <xerxas> hi guys
[04:14] <anshan91> hi man
[04:14] <terminal30> hix
[04:14] <butcherbird> pinucset: sudo cfdisk
[04:14] <xerxas> is there any place to do package request ?
[04:14] <soundray> pinucset, if you have four primary partitions already, you will have to delete one in order to be able to create an extended partition.
[04:14] <xerxas> I didn't found that on the launchpad
[04:15] <pinucset> soundray omg...
[04:15] <esoteric> snowblink, my ubuntu box is having issues using the gateway vie specified.... its set up the same way ive set other machines before... and the gateway is working for other boxes..... doing "route" shows correct details.. but takes a long time
[04:15] <pinucset> I cant erase any...
[04:16] <soundray> pinucset, can you buy an extra hard disk?
[04:16] <snowblink> esoteric, all on the same subnet? Try traceroute
[04:16] <esoteric> snow yes they are... server and gateway can ping eachother
[04:17] <bart_> Is the security.ubuntu thing down or something,, i can't update
[04:17] <snowblink> esoteric, is there an IP clash?
[04:17] <pitti> bart_: very slow right now
[04:18] <quad_> ScreaminIke, VNC working.... this is nice :D - thank you!
[04:18] <quad_> Have a nice weekend...
[04:19] <seashell11> Ok, windows is installed on two 74 gb hard drives set up with stripe raid on raid0, when ubuntu is installed grub doesn't find the windows, but if I set bios to start up with raid0 it will start windows, if I set it up to start with the third hard drive that ubuntu is installed on, it will start up with ubuntu, what should I put in /boot/grub/menu.lst so that it will have an option tostart up with windows?
[04:20] <seashell11> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/513438
[04:20] <seashell11> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/513420
[04:20] <seashell11> ther are some links to help
[04:21] <malefestra> hey guys, what is the package name for Ubuntu Lite?
[04:21] <malefestra> I thought it was ubuntu-lite-desktop
[04:23] <malefestra> anyone actually awake? :>
[04:23] <Alakazam> yes
[04:23] <Alakazam> i am
[04:23] <Alakazam> hehe
[04:23] <Ng> there's xubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <Ng> that installs xfce and so on
[04:23] <nalioth> malefestra: ubuntu-lite iirc is a non official hack.
[04:23] <butcherbird> malefestra: im not seeing an ubntu lite in repos.. but then I guess you already knew that :)
[04:24] <malefestra> nalioth - where would I get it?
[04:24] <soundray> malefestra, ubuntulite.org
[04:24] <nalioth> malefestra: ask uncle google.
[04:24] <malefestra> butcherbird - heh, yep. ;)  I just remember reading about it on the wiki
[04:24] <seashell11> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/514657 here I ran than one page through an online translator and here it is again
[04:24] <malefestra> nalioth - working on it, have to install lynx first.
[04:24] <soundray> malefestra, ubuntulite.org
[04:24] <malefestra> thanks soundray.
[04:25] <butcherbird> malefestra: http://www.ubuntulite.org/ubuntu-lite-desktop_0.1_i386.deb
[04:27] <seashell11> anyone have any idea what I should add to grub? to make it so that I have an option to boot to windows?
[04:28] <Tomcat_> !grub
[04:28] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:28] <Tomcat_> seashell11: That should help :)
[04:29] <redguy> seashell11: people at # grub are very helpful, try in there
[04:29] <esoteric> snowblink, traceroute ... takes a while.. but does show gateway first.. then its all timeouts
[04:29] <vardhan> hi. I'm having trouble getting   my wireless ( bcm43xx ) to work on dapper-flight-3. Tried google and got more confused. Will ndiswrrapper work ?
[04:29] <soundray> seashell11, this is a tricky one. Try the grub command line, and do a 'find' on a common Windows file like boot.ini (?). If it doesn't find it, it may not work at all.
[04:29] <seashell11> Tomcat_: I already tried that, they do not have anything for working with computers set up with raid
[04:29] <seashell11> soundray: ok, ill try that thanks!
[04:29] <seashell11> and try out #grub
[04:30] <soundray> seashell11, the canonical way is probably to set up Windows in a non-RAID partition.
[04:30] <nalioth> vardhan: ndiswrapper should work on x86 machines
[04:30] <Alakazam> it deos
[04:30] <Alakazam> does
[04:30] <Alakazam> i dont know why you'd need it.
[04:30] <redguy> soundray: hrmmm, will grub find any file on a NTFS fs?
[04:30] <vardhan> nalioth: ndiswrapper-module1.5 or 1.8  ? where can i get 1.8  ?
[04:30] <soundray> redguy, maybe not... seashell11, take note pls
[04:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vardhan about ndiswrapper
[04:32] <braxis> Morning WOOD
[04:33] <soundray> seashell11, have you thought about chainloading grub from the Windows bootloader?
[04:34] <seashell11> soundray: what do you mean by the?
[04:34] <seashell11> s/the/that
[04:35] <seashell11> is there something I can put in the windows boot loader so that I have an option to go to grub?
[04:35] <soundray> seashell11, you can replace grub with the Windows boot loader, and install grub in the boot sectore of the root partition instead.
[04:35] <soundray> seashell11, I read about it on a web page -- I'll try to dig it up...
[04:36] <seashell11> soundray, ill google some more, now I got some things to look for
[04:36] <seashell11> thanks!
[04:37] <soundray> seashell11, good -- I can't find it immediately, but Google spits out lots on the subject.
[04:37] <Alakazam> I need help: D915GAG audio not working.
[04:37] <Alakazam> intel hardware
[04:40] <gt_Jaba> Hello everyone!
[04:40] <soundray> Alakazam, do you know the name of the module that should support your audio hardware?
[04:41] <gt_Jaba> Is there a way to set up multiple identities in the Evolution email program?
[04:41] <ubuntu> hello
[04:41] <ubuntu> la cangri talk
[04:41] <kbg_20> can someone help me out with my mike? i am not able to record anything using it...
[04:41] <Alakazam> root@malakai:~# lsmod |grep snd
[04:41] <Alakazam> snd_hda_intel          15872  4
[04:41] <Alakazam> snd_hda_codec          72064  1 snd_hda_intel
[04:41] <Alakazam> those ones.
[04:41] <Alakazam> soundray,
[04:41] <ubuntu> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:42] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:42] <rapha> My Clamshell iBook has arrived! :-)
[04:42] <soundray> Alakazam, so, drivers loaded, but no sound... Can you select a sound card in System-Preferences-Sound?
[04:43] <tbf> hi, as security.ubuntu.com is incredibly slow, i am wondering if there is some mirror for it
[04:43] <Alakazam> im in kde.
[04:43] <Alakazam> :\
[04:43] <kbg_20> hey everyone!! can someone help me with my mike? i am not able to record using it...
[04:43] <esoteric> man this is really pissing me off
[04:43] <pitti> tbf: archive.u.c usually mirrors security
[04:43] <pitti> tbf: however, with a certain lag
[04:43] <kbg_20> microphone i mean..
[04:43] <rapha> How can I configure what the iBook should do when I close its lid? Because right now, Ubuntu tries to put it in suspend, and upon opening the lid again, the iBook crashes :-(
[04:43] <soundray> Alakazam, can you run kmixer (or is it called kmix?)?
[04:44] <nalioth> rapha: that is a known problem. there is nothing you can do easily
[04:45] <kbg_20> hey everyone!! can someone help me with recording using my microphone? i am not able to record using it...
[04:45] <jenda-busy> Help! I accidentally saved a document in Open Office over another... any ideas what I could do? (apart from backing up next time?)
[04:45] <rapha> nalioth: so I will have to remove the button that detects the lid close?
[04:45] <tenco> when i try to connect to my mysql-server at localhost i get the error message: [db_error: message="DB Error: connect failed" code=-24 mode=return level=notice prefix="" info=" [nativecode=Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)]  ** Array"]
[04:45] <tenco> whats wrong here?
[04:45] <soundray> kbg_20, is it muted? Check with alsamixer.
[04:45] <nalioth> rapha: i wouldnt mess with anything.
[04:45] <tenco> can someone help me?
[04:45] <kbg_20> soundray: nope..i put it at 100...everything is enabled in alsamixer
[04:46] <esoteric> tenco, is this a new install of mysql?
[04:46] <tenco> esoteric: yes. on dapper
[04:46] <tenco> esoteric: i can connect as root
[04:46] <esoteric> tenco, be default tcp connections are off... edit your mysql config file
[04:46] <esoteric> be = by
[04:46] <tenco> esoteric: thx
[04:46] <gimmulF_> !ssh
[04:46] <ubotu> I heard ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[04:46] <jenda-busy> Help! Very urgent: I accidentally saved a document in Open Office over another... any ideas what I could do? (apart from backing up next time?)
[04:47] <soundray> kbg_20, what recording software?
[04:47] <nalioth> jenda-busy: you are lost.
[04:47] <rapha> nalioth: Well, as it stands now, this severely limits the usability of my iBook. And I need to fix the mousepad anyway, which will require opening of the case...
[04:47] <kbg_20> soundray: i tried both audacity and the sound recorder that comes with the distro
[04:47] <jenda-busy> nalioth: yup...
[04:47] <katie_> hrm, having problems  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'
[04:47] <katie_>  < vlc, also, Xine, Okle wont play it either
[04:47] <gimmulF_> dont i restart openssh-server by sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart  ?
[04:47] <soundray> kbg_20, have you tried turning off esd?
[04:48] <gimmulF_> when i try to ssh to this machine from another machine behind same router i get connection refused
[04:48] <nalioth> rapha: it is your equipment, i suspect it'd be easier to recompile the kernel to fix both problems
[04:48] <kbg_20> soundray: yup, esd isnt running..i checked using ps ax |grep esd
[04:48] <ericmoritz\0> I some how broke my battery meter can someone help out?
[04:48] <soundray> kbg_20, I have a system like that. Bad news is, I gave up trying to record with it...
[04:49] <kbg_20> soundray: thats bad :( i really want it to work...
[04:49] <ericmoritz\0> where in proc is that data reviewed?
[04:50] <olicat> any ideas if I can add a user without a password?
[04:50] <soundray> ericmoritz\0, /proc/acpi/battery/
[04:50] <ericmoritz\0> that's what I thought, It's missing
[04:50] <rapha> nalioth: OOOH! From your previous statement, I didn't think it was quite as easy as recompiling the kernel. Is there some documentation anywhere on what options need to be changed?
[04:51] <soundray> kbg_20, playing sound works?
[04:51] <rapha> nalioth: the mousepad however is physically broken, so recompiling the kernel won't fix that :-)
[04:51] <nalioth> rapha: i dont consider recompling the kernel 'easy' and i know both problems can be fixed with a kernal recompile (with the right stuff) but i am not familiar with how to do it
[04:51] <kbg_20> soundray: yup, works great
[04:51] <nalioth> rapha: ah, no it won't
[04:51] <rapha> nalioth: I'm coming from LFS, there was no way for you to know that, sorry :-)
[04:52] <rapha> nalioth: the mousepad has the only software-problem that I can't "tap" on it... if that could be fixed would also be cool
[04:52] <soundray> kbg_20, what's your sound card?
[04:53] <kbg_20> soundray: i guess its nvidia...not sure though..my mobo is asus k8n..
[04:53] <rapha> nalioth: I already tried finding some docs on something like needed kernel changes but couldn't find anything, so if you had ANY pointer whatsoever I'd be most grateful :)
[04:53] <rod> cool i got a k8n asus as well
[04:53] <soundray> kbg_20, don't know what to advise -- have you STFW?
[04:53] <rod> what's your problem with it, i aint got any with ubuntu
[04:53] <nalioth> rapha: the yellowdog kernel seems to run ibooks and powerbooks just fine (all features work)
[04:54] <kbg_20> soundray: STFW?!? whats that?
[04:54] <soundray> kbg_20, search the fine web
[04:54] <kbg_20> rod: have u been able to record sounds?
[04:54] <rapha> nalioth: Okay then, maybe somebody in the YellowDog channel knows something about patches required...
[04:54] <rod> ehhh not sure kbg_20 never tried ... what has that to do with the motherboard?
[04:55] <kbg_20> soundray: thats new lingo to me :) and yes, i have done it a lot before coming here..
[04:55] <rod> kbg_20, you got a sb live by any chance?
[04:55] <nalioth> rapha: that is the path i'd follow
[04:55] <rapha> nalioth: thanks for bringing me so far tho :-)
[04:55] <kbg_20> rod: sb live?
[04:55] <kbg_20> rod: no idea what that is..
[04:55] <rod> sound blaster live platinum
[04:55] <raysiel_> salve
[04:55] <rod> sound card ^^
[04:56] <kbg_20> rod: wait a second..i am getting a bit confused
[04:56] <soundray> kbg_20, could it be that you need a pre-amp? Some microphones have very low output levels.
[04:56] <rod> kbg_20, you say you cant record sounds, right?
[04:56] <kbg_20> rod: yes
[04:56] <kbg_20> soundray: no i dont think so..it works well on windows
[04:56] <rod> kbg_20, so this sounds like a sound-card issue, right? :s
[04:57] <kbg_20> rod: yeah...and i f*cking am not sure what my sound card is...:(
[04:57] <soundray> rod, or driver.
[04:58] <rod> try "lspci"
[04:58] <kbg_20> rod: thanks
[04:58] <redguy> rod, kbg_20, soundray or a proper record source setting in the mixer
[04:58] <rod> the multimedia audio controller :)
[04:58] <kbg_20> rod:  Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00ea (rev a1)
[04:58] <ilba7r> when i try to activate a new login. I get a messed up screen. What might cause that the vedio driver or gdm conference
[04:58] <soundray> kbg_20, there is at least one generation of your mb that was equipped with a Realtek ALC850
[04:58] <ilba7r> sorry gdm config
[04:58] <rod> yeah try apt-get install alsamixer-gui
[04:59] <rod> and enable everything :-/ (that's what a noob like me would do)
[04:59] <kbg_20> rod: i used alsamixer from termi...does that matter?
[04:59] <soundray> kbg_20, you did check alsamixer, didn't you? (redguy ^)
[04:59] <kbg_20> and enabled everything
[04:59] <rod> kbg_20, that's good
[04:59] <kbg_20> soundray: yes, i did
[04:59] <redguy> just checking.. :-)
[04:59] <rod> did you enable everything on that sound-panel-menu-thing on the upper right of the gnome panel??
[05:00] <kbg_20> rod: are u talking about the volume control thing that comes up when i double click the vol icon?
[05:00] <graft> arrh. so does anyone know how to get alsa to just, like, work?
[05:01] <ilba7r> kbg_20, seems like you need to install the driver for your card if device unknown. but do that in a terminal as final check. cat /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav > /dev/dsp
[05:01] <mikelo> hi i can't read accented characters in any application, is there a packege for that?
[05:01] <rod> yes, kbg_20 :) RIght click, and then open that thing
[05:01] <ericmoritz\0> does anyone know what module makes /proc/acpi/battery exist?
[05:01] <kbg_20> rod: yup, everything enabled..(i guess its just a gui for alsamixer right?) i tried changing the device too
[05:01] <soundray> ilba7r, he said that sound playing was okay.
[05:01] <graft> ericmoritz\0: acpi
[05:01] <soundray> *(s)he
[05:02] <ilba7r> soundray, ok did not see that
[05:02] <kbg_20> soundray: he..not she :D
[05:02] <robin_> how to get WMII on Ubuntu? i mean is it safe to install the debian package?
[05:02] <robin_> do*
[05:02] <soundray> kbg_20, I reckon there was a 0.5% chance of insulting you with the first version :)
[05:03] <selinium> How do I partition a HD that I am using? My /home drive is on the HD I want to partition? I obviously can't umount it....
[05:03] <nalioth> selinium: liveCD
[05:03] <soundray> selinium, best thing is to boot from a Live CD.
[05:03] <robin_> how to get WMII on Ubuntu? i mean is it safe to install the debian package?
[05:04] <kbg_20> rod, soundray: so isnt there any other thing to check other than alsamixer settings?
[05:04] <selinium>  nalioth soundray  Cool, does live have gparted?
[05:04] <soundray> selinium, think so.
[05:04] <graft> robin_: probably...
[05:04] <ilba7r> !tell kbg_20 about dmix
[05:04] <selinium> nalioth, soundray I haven't really use live before
[05:04] <nubbe> is there a gnome or system console, where all commands can be seen?
[05:04] <saik0> robin_, usually
[05:04] <rod> kbg_20, sorry man; i aint got a clue further :-s
[05:04] <selinium> soundray, nalioth : Cheers for the help!
[05:04] <kbg_20> rod: :( but thanks for trying to help..
[05:04] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: the ubuntu livecd had gparted, yes.
[05:04] <ilba7r> kbg_20 follow ubotu link
[05:05] <graft> so... no one reasonably competent with ALSA?
[05:05] <ilba7r> graft i am running alsa with no problems
[05:05] <kbg_20> ilba7r: thanks for the link..am going to check it out
[05:05] <rod> kbg_20,  :)
[05:05] <rod> thank you
[05:05] <kbg_20> ilba7r: even recording?
[05:05] <graft> ilba7r, does it do mixing correctly?
[05:05] <soundray> kbg_20, you've reignited my interest in fixing it here (on my vdr machine).
[05:05] <ilba7r> graft, superb everything work
[05:05] <ilba7r> let me check recording though
[05:06] <kbg_20> soundray: :) i would be happy if i too can get it to work
[05:06] <soundray> kbg_20, do you want to pm me and give me some way to contact you in case of success?
[05:07] <no0tic> With the latest kernel (2.6.15-13-k7) on dapper powernow_k7 doesn't load and cpu freq scaling doesn't work
[05:07] <graft> well, i still seem to have problems with some things grabbing audio channels
[05:07] <kbg_20> soundray: gotta register first to be able to pm you..
[05:07] <graft> e.g. when i'm playing audio with amarok-xine, and i try playing a video with mplayer -ao sdl, the latter won't work
[05:07] <graft> or vice versa
[05:07] <kbg_20> soundray: will do that and then pm you..
[05:08] <ilba7r> yap everything working fine here
[05:08] <soundray> kbg_20, okay.
[05:08] <Alakazam> soundray, i figured out my sound problem.
[05:08] <Alakazam> Speakers were unplugged
[05:08] <Alakazam> lololoolol
[05:08] <robin_> wtf
[05:08] <Alakazam> oops
[05:09] <robin_> apt-get update behaves weird
[05:09] <robin_> 99% [Er wordt verbinding gemaakt met security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[05:09] <Alakazam> robin_, are you sure the sources are there.
[05:09] <Alakazam> and that your internet connections sufficient?
[05:09] <robin_> it can't connect
[05:09] <robin_> :{
[05:09] <pitti> robin_: known, security.ubuntu.com is slow as hell ATM
[05:09] <robin_> yep
[05:09] <Alakazam> and that your internet connections sufficient?
[05:09] <Alakazam> ok
[05:09] <robin_> pitti: damn :{
[05:09] <robin_> when is that fixed?
[05:10] <soundray> Alakazam, I guess it reinforces the 'always check the obvious' message...
[05:10] <Alakazam> lol... i guess so.
[05:10] <Alakazam> heh
[05:10] <Alakazam> sorry man
[05:10] <nalioth> robin_: security is slow atm
[05:10] <Alakazam> this is a sweet distro
[05:11] <Alakazam> got DRI, sound, wireless...
[05:11] <Alakazam> everything working.
[05:11] <robin_> 99% [Wachtend op de kopteksten]
[05:11] <robin_>  <-- now it wants the headers.. :(
[05:11] <robin_> finall
[05:11] <robin_> y
[05:11] <robin_> its done =D
[05:11] <nubbe> is there a gnome or system console, where all commands can be seen? or ny way to set up something like that?
[05:11] <graft> nubbe: what are you talking about, "all commands"?
[05:12] <nubbe> graft, like stuff happening when u launch a menu or an app
[05:12] <tristan_> nubbe : open your console and typ on the tabulation twice
[05:13] <tristan_> It will propose you to display the 1000s possibilities
[05:13] <graft> nubbe: um, you want to see all debugging output from all programs? why?
[05:13] <azrak> hi sirs, when I go to add an application i find the check box disabled. clicking it says it's not available for your hardware platform, what's this?
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: sry, away from keyboard, I don't know actually. I've heard it does.
[05:13] <_jason> azrak: what's your hw platforman and what is the app?
[05:14] <nubbe> tristan_, ?  :)  What console?   typ tabaulation?
[05:14] <Corrupter> i have a laptop with no CD Rom drive, but i have a flash drive, is there any way to do a USB Flash Drive installation of Ubuntu?
[05:15] <azrak> _jason, Pentium 4, lots of applications like gnome-ppp, ...............
[05:15] <azrak> _jason, almost all applications not installed are dimmed
[05:15] <spike> hi there
[05:15] <spike> is security.ubuntu.com down?
[05:15] <robin_> ..
[05:15] <nalioth> spike: no, it's handing out a large file update today
[05:15] <robin_> yup
[05:15] <robin_> :|
[05:16] <robin_> nope nalioth, it's down
[05:16] <nalioth> robin_: it is very slow, but not down.
[05:16] <robin_> W: Kon de status van de bronpakketlijst http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) niet opvragen - stat (2 Onbekend bestand of map)
[05:16] <robin_> it IS down
[05:16] <robin_> see?
[05:16] <deFrysk> robin_, if you say so
[05:16] <robin_> its dutch,.,
[05:16] <_jason> azrak: I don't know what dimming means in synaptic, so try to use apt-get and see what it says.  'sudo apt-get -s install gnome-ppp' (the -s will simulate and not actually install)
[05:16] <soundray> Corrupter, I think it's possible. The manual also describes a network-based install. Is that an option?
[05:16] <deFrysk> silly dutch
[05:16] <nalioth> robin_: don't paste in here. your apt will give up after a set time. that doesnt mean the site is down.
[05:16] <robin_> nalioth: ok
[05:17] <Corrupter> not unless it's a wireless network install, which i doubt
[05:17] <robin_> i used cpm update :p
[05:17] <_jason> azrak: you have enabled the appropriate repos right? (universe and multiverse)
[05:17] <azrak> _jason, thanks I will try it now and report after 20 mins
[05:17] <soundray> Corrupter, well the concept IIRC is, you download the install iso and boot it from HD.
[05:17] <azrak> _jason, yes all repo enabled
[05:18] <robin_> azrak: maybe it's due the fact that some repos are slow?
[05:18] <robin_> FINALLY
[05:18] <lolzer> HiddenFly: i have xino installed, but how to use ?thanks
[05:18] <lolzer> :D
[05:19] <Corrupter> well if i'm going to do that i could just get the iso on the HD with a flash drive
[05:19] <nubbe> tristan_, I see what u mean, but I was hoping to see what gnome does when i click  something, and maybe pipe it to a log
[05:19] <kbg_20> soundray: btw, my sound card is the realtek alc850 that you had mentioned..shows up in alsamixergui
[05:19] <tristan_> nubbe : if you open a terminal and type on the tabulation twice it will ask you if you want to display all the command allowed in the terminal
[05:19] <soundray> Corrupter, http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ Section 4.3 will answer your question, I think.
[05:20] <_jason> nubbe: I've wanted to do the same thing, let me know if you figure it out
[05:20] <soundray> kbg_20, okay.
[05:20] <nubbe> tristan_, yes, I saw that, thanks. That's not exactly what I wanted...
[05:20] <lolzer> cara eu preciso cheirar cola :(
[05:20] <tristan_> nubbe : OK. Sorry
[05:20] <nubbe> _jason, prolly never  then  :(  ;)
[05:21] <lolzer> HiddenFly: i have xino installed, but how to use ?thanks
[05:21] <lolzer> i have xino installed, but how to use ?thanks
[05:22] <selinium> nalioth, I am on live cd now. Do I resize the partition first, then create a newpartitin in the space?
[05:22] <nubbe> I'm not looking for debug info from all apps, just what gnome does...
[05:22] <virogenesis> dapper will contain a firewall am i correct?
[05:22] <nalioth> virogenesis: all linux has firewall capability
[05:23] <soundray> selinium, that sounds sensible.  Resizing is still a bit of a risky procedure.
[05:25] <_jason> nubbe: errors get sent to ~/.xsession-errors apparently
[05:26] <gnomefreak> X yuck :(
[05:27] <tobi> LIST
[05:27] <HiddenFly> lolzer: watch that damn hilight thx
[05:27] <lolzer> HiddenFly: nothing
[05:28] <matid> Does anyone know when Ubuntu developers are going to upgrade linux-kernel-modules package in Dapper?
[05:28] <lolzer> [[05:28] <soundray> lolzer: using X-Chat?
[05:28] <lolzer> no i'm using a script
[05:28] <nubbe> _jason, thanks
[05:28] <brbrbrbrasilllll> hi, what apt-get install <thing> do i have to type to get sun-jre? i got breezy bagger.
[05:28] <Pygi> matid: I suggest you go to ubuntu-devel
[05:28] <Pygi> !java
[05:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:28] <Pygi> !javadebs
[05:29] <brbrbrbrasilllll> oh.
[05:29] <brbrbrbrasilllll> isn't there a simple apt-get?
[05:29] <Pygi> ubotu tell brbrbrbrasilllll about javadebs
[05:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell Pygi about javadeb
[05:29] <lolzer> !xino
[05:29] <ubotu> lolzer: No idea
[05:29] <lolzer> !apt
[05:29] <ubotu> hmm... apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[05:29] <Pygi> I know about javadeb, whats problem jason? :P
[05:30] <definity> is a .pl file pearl???
[05:30] <lolzer> !kernel
[05:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell brbrbrbrasilllll about javadebs
[05:30] <nalioth> definity: yes
[05:30] <definity> k
[05:30] <definity> how do i compile pearl?
[05:30] <nalioth> lolzer: please dont fish with the bot, use google if you get no answers here
[05:30] <redguy> definity: no
[05:30] <_jason> Pygi: oops sorry... /me needs to work on nick ocloring script
[05:30] <nalioth> definity: you dont. it's already installed
[05:30] <redguy> definity: it's perl and you don't compile it
[05:30] <definity> but when i click on a .pl file it just opens up in kate
[05:31] <nalioth> definity: then you need to make it executable "chmod +x file.pl"
[05:31] <definity> thanks il try that now
[05:32] <Pygi> gnomefreak: wake up, and write chapters :P
[05:32] <Mayli> hei
[05:33] <definity> thanks guy works fine now
[05:33] <lolzer> wtf
[05:33] <lolzer> or chmod u+x file.pl
[05:33] <lolzer> or chmod 777 file.pl
[05:33] <gnomefreak> Pygi: im working on biotech homework :(
[05:33] <Pygi> gnomefreak: bah
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ill trade you?
[05:33] <Pygi> gnomefreak: how, lol? :P
[05:33] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:33] <Mayli> wazzup?
[05:34] <Pygi> gnomefreak: I'll make your homework, you code my app :)
[05:34] <_jason> In .xsessionerrors I have a message saying "checking for new mail... 2 unread messages", how would I check this?   Is that a gpl licenced java-version?
[05:36] <nalioth> Stormx2: redguy: unrar comes in 2 flavors unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[05:36] <gnomefreak> tucoz: for the most part
[05:36] <Stormx2> nalioth: I remembered ;-) I thought that might be the rar package, though.
[05:37] <brbrbrbrasilllll> k i got black something java
[05:37] <CactusWiZaRd> which one is better?
[05:37] <Pygi> !blackdown
[05:37] <ubotu> Pygi: Syntax error in line 1
[05:37] <Pygi> !info blackdown
[05:37] <tucoz> gnomefreak, ok. Is it better than gcj?
[05:37] <lolzer> is possible to root ubuntu with krad3 ?
[05:37] <Stormx2> nalioth: The free version is 3.4 and the unfree is 4 or something.
[05:37] <redguy> _jason, nalioth: thanks
[05:37] <brbrbrbrasilllll> ya
[05:37] <tucoz> gnomefreak, with better I mean better support for the sun java api
[05:37] <gnomefreak> tucoz: thats debatable i get jave from sunjava i learned not to use blackdown :)
[05:38] <tucoz> ok, I'll do that as well then
[05:38] <lolzer> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:38] <lolzer> [-]  This kernel not vulnerability!!!
[05:38] <lolzer> nice :)
[05:38] <Alakazam> lol
[05:38] <Alakazam> ok
[05:38] <Alakazam> thats l33t
[05:38] <CactusWiZaRd> console says that unrar-free doesn't exist O_o
[05:38] <Alakazam> mike@malakai:~$ glxinfo |grep render
[05:38] <Alakazam> direct rendering: Yes
[05:38] <Alakazam> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915G 20050225
[05:38] <Alakazam> thats l33t too
[05:38] <redguy> CactusWiZaRd: unrar-free is in universe, unrar-nonfree is in multiverse. The difference, besides the license, seems to be that unrar-nonfree would extract all of winrar created archives.
[05:38] <pixelfairy> maybe i read this wrong, but the installer for ubuntu said "preparing for popularity contest"
[05:39] <nalioth> CactusWiZaRd: you need to enable universe and multiverse repos
[05:39] <gnomefreak> tucoz: the best and safest way to run java is getting it from sunjava
[05:39] <lolzer> tulioanjos@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo |grep render
[05:39] <lolzer> Error: unable to open display (null)
[05:39] <lolzer> maybe it is leet too ..
[05:39] <tucoz> gnomefreak, ok. thanks for the info. I am downloading it as we speak :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> lolzer: take render off the end and see if it opens than
[05:39] <lolzer> gnomefreak: no
[05:40] <lolzer> it is running on SSh, let me test on vmware :p
[05:40] <redguy> lolzer: how about glxinfo -display 0:0 | grep render
[05:40] <CactusWiZaRd> nalioth: and how can i do that? before i installed Ubuntu again, i somehow installed it, i don't even have any clue how and so on...
[05:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CactusWiZaRd about repos
[05:41] <Alakazam> lolzer, install the drivers.
[05:41] <Alakazam> what kinda video card do you have.
[05:41] <lolzer> Alakazam: it is running on vmware -.-
[05:41] <lolzer> and vmware tools is alerady installed
[05:42] <_jason> nalioth: okay I tried checking mail for my two users using mutt, then I used the mail command for every user in /etc/passwd... and no luck finding those 2 mail messages.  The .xsession-errors log is timestamped at about an hour ago saying something had 2.  Any ideas why?
[05:42] <tarzan_> hi
[05:42] <lolzer> is the exim a smtp server. . ?
[05:43] <Ng> yes
[05:43] <nalioth> jason_: i have no clue, i type mutt and it comes up with the system mail
[05:43] <tucoz> heh, I just realized I have avoided using useful tools for quite some time now as I didn't have java installed
[05:44] <Alakazam> oh
[05:44] <Alakazam> then install vmware tools
[05:44] <Alakazam> why are you trying to do 3D in vmware?!
[05:45] <Alakazam> here man: http://www.vmware.com/support/guestnotes/doc/guestos_ubuntu510.html
[05:45] <lolzer> gcc fudp.c -Wall -pedantic -o fudp
[05:46] <lolzer> fudp = ddos rlz
[05:46] <tarzan_> i have a strange problem with xfe, konqueror, nautilus... my entire system freezes when i use drag and drop with video files... i can't even change to one of the normal consoles
[05:46] <_jason> nalioth: I see, when I type mutt it asks me if I want to create /home/jasonr/Mail (jasonr is my username).  Should it be looking elsewhere for the mail?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> lolzer: whats wrong with gcc fudp.c -o fudp?
[05:46] <lolzer> gnomefreak: nothing xD
[05:46] <redguy> lolzer: that is truly l33t, but what does this have to do with ubuntu?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> ok good :)
[05:47] <nalioth> jason_: weird. i've always typed mutt and gotten the mail.
[05:47] <lolzer> i'm looking for, how to vmware accept external connections
[05:47] <lolzer> but i didnt find anything about it :(
[05:47] <_jason> nalioth: alright, thanks for the info
[05:47] <burning_bronx> !automatix
[05:47] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:48] <lolzer> !xim
[05:48] <ubotu> Wish i knew, lolzer
[05:48] <lolzer> !exim
[05:48] <ubotu> lolzer: Wish i knew
[05:48] <fabricebonny> hi everybody, I'm looking for a way to see attributes from mozilla LDAP schema in Evolution
[05:48] <Alakazam> lolzer, you heard of megasploit?>
[05:48] <lolzer> Alakazam: lol
[05:49] <Alakazam> ahah
[05:49] <Alakazam> http://www.metasploit.com/projects/Framework/
[05:49] <Alakazam> that
[05:49] <lolzer> what is that .. ?!
[05:49] <Alakazam> "point, click WOOT"
[05:49] <Alakazam> lol
[05:49] <fxe> I am having a problem with accessing my DVD ROM, I got a DVD CD and I try to open the DVD ROM Drive and I get this error:
[05:49] <fxe> Warning: device /dev/hdc is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[05:49] <fxe> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:49] <fxe> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[05:49] <fxe>        missing codepage or other error
[05:49] <fxe>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:49] <Alakazam> aahahahaa
[05:49] <fxe>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:49] <Alakazam> check it out
[05:49] <fxe> Error: could not execute pmount
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:49] <Pygi> NO PASTE :/
[05:49] <Pygi> NO PASTE :/
[05:49] <PrideF> fxe!!!!!
[05:49] <Pygi> damn it :P
[05:49] <fxe> Ah Sorry.
[05:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell fxe about pastebin
[05:49] <gnomefreak> fxe: dont paste in here
[05:49] <PrideF> fxe >>> burn!!!!
[05:49] <Alakazam> yeah
[05:50] <Alakazam> use a paste bin
[05:50] <Alakazam> jesus
[05:50] <Alakazam> it'll flood the serv er
[05:50] <fxe> heh like I killed you all because I have pasted it
[05:50] <PrideF> just for that, I won't answer your question!!!  ;)
[05:50] <xored> iam just tryied to make a own kernel, everything worked but i think i cannot get the SATA driver running. When iam trying to boot, he fails mounting sda6 cause he is no abel to find it. I have a ich6 SATA controller and the PiiX module build in. Should i better use the AHCI one ?
[05:50] <fxe> PrideF, because you don't know, you lamer
[05:50] <Alakazam> lol
[05:50] <nalioth> fxe: do you read channel /topics when you arrive into irc channels?
[05:50] <airton> tem alguel para tc
[05:50] <PrideF> haha, and he flames, too.  yay, you are NEAT
[05:50] <Alakazam> QOTD: fxe PrideF, because you don't know, you lamer
[05:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fxe about conduct
[05:50] <dwight_> nick DShepherd
[05:51] <Alakazam> nide
[05:51] <Alakazam> nice*
[05:51] <_jason> !pt
[05:51] <PrideF> you are automounting, you "lamer"
[05:51] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell PrideF about conduct
[05:51] <Alakazam> lolzer, you checking it out?
[05:51] <Alakazam> http://www.metasploit.com/index.html
[05:52] <lolzer> Alakazam: no
[05:52] <lolzer> i dont have internet access
[05:52] <Alakazam> you should.
[05:52] <Alakazam> oh
[05:52] <Alakazam> proxy then.
[05:52] <lolzer> j/k
[05:52] <lolzer> :p
[05:52] <lolzer> i'm not looking for exploits bro
[05:54] <Alakazam> they're not exploits
[05:54] <lolzer> yes they're3
[05:54] <Alakazam> they're penetration testing tool kits
[05:54] <Alakazam> :)
[05:54] <Frafra> hi all
[05:54] <Alakazam> high
[05:54] <Frafra> i've a problem
[05:54] <lolzer> dont talk about penetrion, i only have 15 years :(
[05:54] <Alakazam> me too, i poop too much.
[05:54] <Ng> maybe you're lactose intolerant ;)
[05:54] <Ng> this is off-topic though :p
[05:55] <Alakazam> give me a scoop of chocolate, and vanila.
[05:55] <Alakazam> true, touche.
[05:55] <Frafra> I need make a dvd video from an avi video in another dvd reader. i've tryied dvdshrink
[05:55] <lolzer> lol it is off-topic, but we try to help who are having problems
[05:55] <Frafra> this is the output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/zqlOPQ85.html
[05:55] <lolzer> i'm looking for, how to vmware accept external connections
[05:56] <noproblem> hi
[05:57] <sergio__> lserver irc.autistici.org
[05:57] <Frafra> who can help me?
[05:58] <noproblem> i can
[05:58] <Alakazam> http://pastebin.com/514814
[05:58] <Alakazam> lol@that
[05:58] <jenda> Frafra: no idea... try searching the forum - I'm sure I saw that mentioned somewhere
[05:59] <Frafra> ok, thx
[06:00] <noproblem> im using breezy and its fine..should i switch to dapper?
[06:00] <robotgeek> !dapper
[06:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[06:00] <noproblem> for perhaps newer packages and more features
[06:01] <rod> geez
[06:01] <redguy> noproblem: install dapper and you will have to change your nick
[06:01] <noproblem> redguy: whys that?
[06:01] <rod> how to check which device in /dev is my cdrom? The cdrom link in /dev is pointed wrong
[06:01] <noproblem> oh heheh
[06:02] <redguy> :-)
[06:02] <nima_> hullow
[06:03] <nima_> can someone tell me what hda(1,0) means
[06:03] <Xenguy> rod: you can try: dmesg |grep hd
[06:03] <jenda> noproblem: I don't recommend switching just yet, unless, as seggested, the current state of "no problem" irritates you. Dapper is not safe nor stable
[06:03] <Xenguy> rod: look for your CD-ROM in that log
[06:03] <jenda> NOproblem: It's meant to be tested mainly - using is risky
[06:03] <NOproblem> ya i think i can stick to breezy
[06:03] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[06:03] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[06:04] <gnomefreak> notice it says when it breaks that implies that it will break :)
[06:04] <NOproblem> i wish i could help the ubuntu community somehow
[06:04] <gnomefreak> NOproblem: there are many ways to help
[06:04] <rod> Xenguy, well nothing 'bout cdrom to be found but this info does exclude a lot devs so it should be doable to cat them all one by one to see a response
[06:05] <_jason> NOproblem: you can! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingUbuntu
[06:05] <gnomefreak> if im not mistaken sitting in here helping answer questions is on that site
[06:05] <NOproblem> gnomefreak: yes i can
[06:06] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:06] <Xenguy> rod: you really should pick up something in dmesg about your CD-ROM tho :-/
[06:06] <Bader> hi
[06:06] <gnomefreak> hi
[06:07] <rod> well Xenguy, join #flood and ill show you the output :)
[06:07] <gnomefreak> _jason: you know about irssi it logs the away messages so you can read them when you come back :) i like that
[06:07] <rod> the outpunt aint a pretty sight though :)
[06:07] <Bader> how could I start X on dapper ? gdm refuses to start it and startx fails with "xinit: Server error"
[06:07] <Xenguy> rod: K, there now
[06:07] <_jason> gnomefreak: is there a way to read them in irssi?
[06:07] <McJerry> i have a slight emergency on a mission critical pc, grub has gone haywire, it is a dual-boot pc with xp and ubuntu on the same drive,, hda is xp on hda1 and ubuntu on hda2
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Bader: you dont
[06:07] <McJerry> i can get to the grub menu
[06:07] <Bader> gnomefreak: I don't ?
[06:07] <xeonium> i was too dumb to push new xorg updates - now i can't start x from normal user
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Bader: thats a known bug should have had the update uploaded this am tho
[06:08] <Bader> xeonium: mee too.
[06:08] <McJerry> but the only boot option is xp and if i select it, it just returns to the grub boot menu
[06:08] <McJerry> please someone help me through this
[06:08] <xeonium> Bader: any links for fixes?
[06:08] <McJerry> it is urgent
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Bader: run gdm restart and than try startx
[06:08] <Bader> xeonium: no.
[06:08] <Bader> gnomefreak: don't work.
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Bader: what does it say?
[06:09] <Bader> gnomefreak: "xinit: Server error"
[06:09] <Bader> gdm don't give me any error
[06:09] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi!, i'm having problems installing ubuntu breezy, it's like if the cd reader got stuck, it takes a lot of time in "Analizing CDROM", and never complete that fase
[06:09] <Bader> I installed xserver-xorg because the last upgrade uninstall it.
[06:09] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> what culd be the problem ?
[06:09] <McJerry> can anyone who is familiar with grub please read the above post and help me get back up?????
[06:10] <gnomefreak> Bader: i dont have that issue :( please look at launchpad for that bug see if its been listed if not send a bug report for that issue
[06:10] <gnomefreak> McJerry: have you tried update-grub?
[06:10] <Bader> gnomefreak: launchpad without X is painful.
[06:11] <gnomefreak> launchpad with X isnt so hot either :(
[06:11] <McJerry> gnomefreak: am only at a grub menu, grub> update-grub
[06:11] <McJerry> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[06:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell McJerry about grub
[06:12] <_jason> gnomefreak: my away.log has funky characters in it if I try to view it with less.  It has ^D next to names.  Does yours have that as well
[06:12] <gnomefreak> McJerry: on that site bot just sent you is info on fixing lost grub
[06:12] <gnomefreak> _jason: no
[06:12] <gnomefreak> not that ive seen
[06:13] <Bader> gnomefreak: in which package is the file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[06:13] <gnomefreak> _jason: say something to me im gonna see if it does
[06:13] <_jason> gnomefreak: ubuntu
[06:13] <Bader> s/gnomefreak/anybody
[06:13] <zyg> ?
[06:13] <_jason> zyg: english
[06:13] <gnomefreak> its not even showing up
[06:13] <tankkiller_> is there a better FTP client than gftp?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> _jason: no it just shows the < in it
[06:14] <tankkiller_> gftp wont let me que/transfer folders
[06:14] <Xenguy> tankkiller_: lftp does nicely for command-line
[06:14] <_jason> gnomefreak: alright, i'll have to see what I did.  It's strange because the channel logs don't have it
[06:14] <tankkiller_> im looking for a GUI
[06:15] <Xenguy> tankkiller_: I hear that Filezilla is being ported from d0ze to linux, but I gather that is future tense
[06:15] <gnomefreak> _jason: maybe due to any other scripts you have conflicting with it
[06:15] <_jason> gnomefreak: all I have is nm
[06:15] <gnomefreak> thats all i have too :)
[06:15] <tankkiller_> k, its too bad GFTP sux :(
[06:15] <Bader> Does anybody can telle me in which package is the file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config (dpkg -S /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config)
[06:16] <arrinmurr> tankkiller_: http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php
[06:16] <Ng> tankkiller_: there are others
[06:16] <Ng> tankkiller_: search synaptic for ftp client :)
[06:16] <Bader> tankkiller_: nautilus is a ftp client and GFTP is good enough.
[06:16] <nalioth> Bader: install and update 'apt-file' and you can search for any file you like
[06:16] <tankkiller_> how do I get GFTP to transfer a folder?
[06:17] <nalioth> tankkiller_: highlight the folder and then the arrow in the direction you want it to go
[06:17] <Seventh-NIXing> Hi, all.
[06:17] <sepa> hello, can any1 help me installing rddtool? it says that c++ fails sanity check...
[06:17] <Bader> nalioth: apt-file doesn't find it.
[06:18] <Seventh-NIXing> I could do with a hand getting my Ubuntu box on my network.
[06:18] <zoexii> hello, I need some help finding help...  I recently upgraded processor and motherboard from PIII to AMD Athlon XP.  My Ubuntu install made the transition without problem, but my windows install crashes while booting.  Can I reinstall windows without damaging my Ubuntu install?
[06:19] <Seventh-NIXing> I think it depends on how your drives are partitioned and suchlike, zoex.
[06:19] <Juhaz> zoexii, reinstalling windows will possibly overwrite the bootloader
[06:19] <Bader> zoexii: if your drives are partioned windows will erase grub if you install it on the same drive.
[06:20] <zoexii> Juhaz, Bader, I currently have grub in the MBR, windows on first partition, and Ubuntu on the remainder
[06:20] <xeonium> Bader: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2000/12/msg00251.html
[06:20] <Bader> zoexii: happily you can reinstall it with the ubuntu installation cdrom
[06:20] <McJerry> gnomefreak: running rescue and update-grub got ubuntu to boot, tx, but now prob is when i select the xp options, i just get grub grub grub running across screen....suggestions?????
[06:20] <Seventh-NIXing> Any chance of advice on my networking probs?
[06:20] <Spec> zoexii: windows will overwrite your MBR, but it's simple enough to reinstall grub on top of it
[06:20] <Bader> xeonium: what does it say ? it seems very old...
[06:20] <Pygi> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:20] <miki> hello, i need some help with ubuntu and my speedtouch330 router
[06:20] <xeonium> Bader: its autogenerated file
[06:20] <Spec> hehe, there's a good doc :p
[06:21] <xeonium> so you won't find it in packages
[06:21] <Bader> xeonium: and does it say what could I do ?
[06:21] <zoexii> Spec, do I use the ubuntu install cd to do this?
[06:21] <redguy> miki: I hear you
[06:21] <Seventh-NIXing> My Ubuntu PC's MAC addy appears on my router's DCHP client page if I use DCHP, but I can't ping or do anything useful in either direction.
[06:21] <Spec> zoexii:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:21] <Pygi> sevent: firewall?
[06:21] <zoexii> Spec, cool, thanks...
[06:21] <xeonium> Bader: packagers messed up some security settings in xserver, i guess
[06:21] <Seventh-NIXing> Not on my Ubuntu box... as far as I know.
[06:22] <Pygi> well, install and configure firewall
[06:22] <Pygi> ubuntu has no open ports by default
[06:22] <redguy> Pygi: but it answers to pings, doesn't it
[06:22] <Seventh-NIXing> I can't ping the router from the Ubuntu box either, though.
[06:22] <miki> when im trying to install speedtech thingy on my ubuntu, it says error: USBUsage: lspci (switches)
[06:22] <Pygi> redguy: no it does not
[06:23] <Pygi> redguy: read question
[06:23] <Seventh-NIXing> Surely I'd be able to ping the gateway still, though?
[06:23] <simpo> how to change system input text encoding becouse i'd like to make www sites in iso encoding ?
[06:23] <Pygi> well, the gateway, but nothing behide the gateway
[06:23] <Nivko> !apache
[06:23] <ubotu> apache is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[06:24] <Bader> xeonium: did you fix it on your computer ?
[06:24] <trappist> simpo: you'd change that in your apache config
[06:24] <xeonium> Bader: by installing and running gdm, but i want better solution
[06:24] <simpo> trappist-> i work on a remoter server
[06:25] <giorgos> is this the #ubuntu channel?
[06:25] <trappist> simpo: maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, but the encoding of your web pages is set in your apache config or a .htaccess file
[06:25] <Seventh-NIXing> Yep. Hi.
[06:25] <Xenguy> giorgos: nod
[06:25] <bionic> giorgos: topic? :)
[06:25] <Bader> xeonium: don't work either
[06:26] <Xenguy> sepa: don't do that
[06:26] <McJerry> i have fixed the ubuntu option in grub, ubuntu boots fine now
[06:26] <giorgos> i'm trying to install a program and have problem
[06:26] <miki> my floppy wont work under ubuntu! help
[06:26] <McJerry> why when i select winxp it just repeats "grub" all over the screen and does not boot to xp?
[06:26] <McJerry> ?
[06:27] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: your'e getting timeouts on the ping? or something in the lines of 'host unreachable'
[06:27] <simpo> trae-> yes i know, but i'm talking about system encoding. when i write something in text editor its in UTF8 code and i'd like it in ISO-...-2 code
[06:27] <giorgos> i am running setup.sh via konsole and I get bash: ./SETUP.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[06:27] <Seventh-NIXing> redguy: "host unreachable" at one point. Let me re-check.
[06:27] <giorgos> i am running setup.sh via konsole and I get          "bash: ./SETUP.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[06:28] <Seventh-NIXing> Yeah, "unreachable".
[06:28] <Xenguy> giorgos: check to see whether it has executable permissions
[06:28] <giorgos> ok how?
[06:28] <McJerry> why when i select winxp it just repeats "grub" all over the screen and does not boot to xp?
[06:28] <Bader> giorgos: try: chmod +x setup.sh && sh setup.sh
[06:28] <Xenguy> giorgos: ls -l setup.sh
[06:28] <giorgos> well, it should have the manual says to run this
[06:28] <tankkiller_> is there anyway to set GFTP to skip files that are already being downloaded?
[06:29] <Seventh-NIXing> Check anyway, giorgos.
[06:29] <tankkiller_> my ISP has capped ftp transfers and I need to pull multiple threads to max out my speed
[06:29] <tankkiller_> so I do 3 seperate logins and que what I need
[06:29] <xeonium> Bader: chmod +s /usr/bin/X helps
[06:29] <robotgeek> giorgos: are you running this on a ntfs/fat32 partition?
[06:29] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: care to do some pasting? what does sudo ip ad && sudo ip ro say?
[06:29] <tankkiller_> but gftp will write the same file multiple times
[06:30] <redguy> !tell Seventh-NIXing about pastebin
[06:30] <giorgos> giorgos@elab5:/media/cdrom0$ ls -l SETUP.SH
[06:30] <giorgos> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root daemon 16121 2003-10-21 11:47 SETUP.SH
[06:30] <robotgeek> tankkiller_: maybe try using prozilla?
[06:30] <Seventh-NIXing> Indeed. Ta.
[06:30] <Seventh-NIXing> *you
[06:30] <giorgos> i think it
[06:30] <tankkiller_> k
[06:30] <giorgos> it is ext3
[06:30] <Seventh-NIXing> Just eth0 do, redguy?
[06:31] <r0bby> grim, ping
[06:31] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, i'm having problems with the installation of ubuntu, it reads the cd too sloooow, it takes hours to do the "Analizing cd" step, and got stuck before finishing, any ideas?
[06:31] <robotgeek> giorgos: hmm, weird. however, the file is owned by root, and you don't have executable permission to it
[06:31] <Xenguy> giorgos: so you need to be root to run the file, or else change the ownership; depending on your needs
[06:31] <giorgos> ok let me change to root
[06:31] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: huh?
[06:32] <mike-w> how do i install a gdm theme?
[06:32] <Bader> xiaogil: no, now gdm refuses to launch
[06:32] <giorgos> root@elab5:/media/cdrom0# ls -l SETUP.SH
[06:32] <giorgos> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root daemon 16121 2003-10-21 11:47 SETUP.SH
[06:32] <giorgos> same again...
[06:32] <giorgos> now what?
[06:33] <Seventh-NIXing> Just for the network adapter in question, redguy? Not loopback, etc.?
[06:33] <miki> hey, anyone can help me? ubuntu wont see my floppy
[06:33] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: does it matter? just paste the whole thing
[06:33] <Bader> I can launch Xorg but not gdm ? any helps ?
[06:34] <Xenguy> giorgos: hrm... try this, then paste just the top 1 line of output: head SETUP.SH
[06:34] <Seventh-NIXing> Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7409
[06:34] <Seventh-NIXing> Yeah, well, I'm having to hand-type it on my Windows PC, y'see.
[06:34] <giorgos> didn't understand u want the 1st line of the setup.sh?
[06:34] <Seventh-NIXing> miki: no sign of it at all?
[06:34] <Xenguy> giorgos: yep
[06:35] <Neon|idle> anyone got a few minutes to help me try and update my 5.04 install to 5.10 ?
[06:35] <miki> seventh
[06:35] <giorgos> #!/bin/sh
[06:35] <Seventh-NIXing> Yes?
[06:35] <Xenguy> giorgos: looks fine
[06:35] <miki> seventh-nixing: under terminal = no see, but under nautilus i cant open it... says bad file system
[06:36] <Xenguy> giorgos: If you want to run the script as root, then paste the output to #flood, or a pastebin, then we can have a look
[06:36] <giorgos> wanna send it its only 15KB
[06:36] <Xenguy> giorgos: ^^
[06:36] <Seventh-NIXing> Does the floppy drive even chug when you try to access it? The light come on?
[06:36] <giorgos> ok not jargon plz u r talking to an apprentice
[06:36] <miki> Seventh-NIXing: i just copied some install files from windows and then i tried to copy them to ubuntu but it wont work
[06:36] <Xenguy> !u
[06:36] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[06:37] <miki> Seventh-NIXing: no sign of work
[06:37] <giorgos> ^^ =?
[06:37] <cosmita> why do I get a host error when I start audacity? the sound recording does not work
[06:37] <giorgos> nob
[06:37] <vity> hi
[06:37] <Bader> GDM don't give me any error excepting its error code: 1
[06:37] <Seventh-NIXing> Hm, sorry, miki, I don't know. Maybe the info I gleaned from you will get you help from someone else, though.
[06:37] <Seventh-NIXing> Hi, vity.
[06:37] <Bader> it seems that xinit in dapper is broken
[06:37] <Xenguy> giorgos: by '^^' I just meant 'see above' :-)
[06:37] <cosmita> with sound recorder it works. with audacity it doesn't
[06:37] <vity> can someone tell me how to used sudo?
[06:38] <Bader> vity: sudo command and type your user password launch command as root
[06:38] <Seventh-NIXing> sudo <pathname>
[06:38] <miki> Seventh-NIXing: brb, i will check it again in 30min
[06:38] <giorgos> oh ok thought it was some kinfd of smilie
[06:38] <Bader> vity: sudo -s launch a root shell
[06:38] <chmod775> do we have a rss reader for ubuntu?
[06:38] <Xenguy> vity: there is only one password -- yours
[06:38] <vity> can i install stuff with a live cd?
[06:38] <Alakazam> lol@installing windows xp on vmware
[06:38] <Xenguy> chmod775: apt-cache search rss |less
[06:38] <robotgeek> chmod775: liferea, blam and several others
[06:38] <Bader> vity: see man sudo
[06:38] <Seventh-NIXing> I always just do, i.e., sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[06:38] <Alakazam> can you tell im bored?
[06:38] <giorgos> ok what's flood and pastebin
[06:38] <Alakazam> haha!
[06:38] <Seventh-NIXing> vity: install the OS, or extra software, or what?
[06:38] <Bader> vity: there is gksudo which is the graphical equivalent of sudo
[06:38] <Xenguy> !tell giorgos about pastebin
[06:39] <robotgeek> vity: yes, but it won't remain
[06:39] <Seventh-NIXing> giorgos: it's just a website that stores stuff that you put in a form.
[06:39] <chmod775> thanks dude
[06:39] <Seventh-NIXing> redguy, any ideas?
[06:39] <Xenguy> giorgos: #flood is an IRC channel were it's OK to paste large amounts of text
[06:39] <vity> i just need to extract some stuff to the lib directory and it wont let me at the moment
[06:39] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: hrm, everything looks ok there. can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> from the ubuntu box?
[06:39] <Seventh-NIXing> Yes, I can.
[06:39] <giorgos> oh got the point
[06:40] <vity> so can someone tell me the exact steps on what i need to do?
[06:40] <Xenguy> giorgos: please prepend my nick if you want me to follow also; it's busy in here, and some of us are on more than one channel
[06:40] <Seventh-NIXing> vity: you can't write to a CD-ROM :|
[06:40] <vity> but it loads to memory :p
[06:40] <Seventh-NIXing> I doubt it loads the entire contents of the CD into memory. Not that I know much :)
[06:40] <vity> it doesnt run fully off the cd
[06:41] <vity> the whole system is about 100mb
[06:41] <Neon|idle> how do i format my pc? and start over?
[06:41] <vity> which is loaded into ram
[06:41] <Seventh-NIXing> Just pop in the install disc, Neon.
[06:41] <NOproblem> what if you could make it rain on the desktop and still use it?
[06:41] <Neon|idle> cba with trying this, rather go right into 5.10
[06:41] <Seventh-NIXing> The install wizard will give you the opportunity of ditching everything.
[06:42] <vity> so how do u use sudo???
[06:42] <vity> i need a clear step by step!!
[06:42] <Seventh-NIXing> Well, you're in a terminal, right?
[06:42] <vity> ya
[06:42] <Seventh-NIXing> 1. sudo <normal command>
[06:42] <Seventh-NIXing> 2. Type your password.
[06:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vity about rootsudo
[06:42] <no0tic> How do I use the rt2400 kernel module to use my realtek 8180 wireless NIC?
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Seventh-NIXing about rootsudo
[06:43] <vity> ive seen that website!!!
[06:43] <no0tic> If I modprobe rt2400 it doesn't create any device
[06:43] <vity> i dont understand it
[06:43] <giorgos> Xengy: it didn't accept the whole text
[06:43] <nalioth> vity: it has 'step by step' instructions, if you read it
[06:43] <vity> i said clear without too much jargon
[06:44] <lolzer> what is the bgest linux distro ?
[06:44] <vity> what is the default password with a live cd?
[06:44] <jenda> lolzer: Ubuntu is the most popular
[06:44] <nalioth> vity: at the bottom of that page has "step by step" (as clear as you could want)
[06:44] <lolzer> jenda: :p
[06:44] <Neon|idle> ..please?
[06:44] <NOproblem> whats the ubuntu site again for contributing
[06:44] <lolzer> contributing with stolen cards ?
[06:45] <vity> ye, but it needs the password which i dont have
[06:45] <lolzer> root passwrd ?
[06:45] <lolzer> try nothing xD
[06:45] <vity> tried that :p
[06:45] <nalioth> vity: there is none
[06:45] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7409
[06:45] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: sorry can't think of anything :/
[06:45] <Seventh-NIXing> S'alright. Ta for trying.
[06:46] <vity> ok. i am gonna try it. if it doesnt work i'll come back
[06:46] <Seventh-NIXing> Just compounding the info for anyone just popping on.
[06:47] <no0tic> Seventh-NIXing, could you paste ifconfig output?
[06:47] <NOproblem> how do you make it rain on the ubuntu desktop like a screen saver and still use it
[06:47] <NOproblem> with sound effects and bird chirping
[06:47] <Ampsonic> Hello Hello!
[06:47] <Bader> X still doesn't launch on my box. Neither startx, neither gdm...
[06:48] <Seventh-NIXing> ifconfig... gimme a minute.
[06:48] <Ampsonic> if I may interject a quick question, what version of GCC is ubuntu shipping with these days?
[06:48] <Bader> I know I should have used dapper but know I'm stuck with it and can't do anything :(
[06:49] <no0tic> Seventh-NIXing, also route ouput
[06:49] <Bader> i really need your help because I tried everything I know about X. Xorg could be launched but I don't understand how to launch gnome-session or any other wm/desktop manager with it
[06:49] <nalioth> Ampsonic: none ship with it, you can install 4.0, 3.4 and some others
[06:49] <Ampsonic> ahh
[06:50] <Neon|idle> if anyone has a few minutes to help me clear my install and get an install of 5.10 going, please feel free to pm me. cheers.
[06:50] <JoeBlow> is their any linux program out their like Gamespy or All Seeing Eye? I cant get ASE to work under wine
[06:50] <Ampsonic> and if i wnated to put a library in a place where the dynamic linker would see it, where would i do that?
[06:50] <Bader> xinit seems broken on my machine
[06:50] <lolzer> how i can root the ubuntu 2.6.10-5 kernel ?
[06:50] <lolzer> how i can root the ubuntu 2.6.10-5 kernel ? someone know a exploit ... ?
[06:50] <ofer_> when I try to umount or eject my DVD ROM, I get this error: umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:51] <ofer_> Any idea what's the problem?
[06:51] <Bader> ofer_: close all your window or application using the cdrom
[06:51] <ofer_> I closed it
[06:51] <nalioth> lolzer: that is offtopic
[06:51] <Seventh-NIXing> no0tic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7411
[06:51] <_jason> ofer_: make sure no terminal is in that directory
[06:51] <lolzer> !wine
[06:51] <lolzer> !winex
[06:51] <ubotu> lolzer: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:51] <Bader> ofer_: check if any application is using it.
[06:52] <lolzer> the ubuntu sources.list have this line? v
[06:52] <lolzer> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[06:52] <rickyjones> quick question: is vmware in any of the repos?
[06:52] <Ng> lolzer: no, the default sources.list ony has the main ubuntu repositories
[06:52] <Neon|idle> ah fuck linux, ill install windows
[06:52] <Ng> rickyjones: no, vmware is non-free
[06:52] <lolzer> auhduhah
[06:52] <lolzer> hsdhus
[06:53] <Alakazam> yep yep yep yep
[06:53] <lolzer> i'm using ubuntu on vmware, just for compiling exploits and spamming keylogger emails ...
[06:53] <lolzer> :p
[06:53] <ofer_> _jason, I tried, nothing happens
[06:53] <Ng> lolzer: we don't care, shut up
[06:53] <ofer_> I made sure
[06:53] <lolzer> Ng: calm down
[06:53] <lolzer> make relaxed
[06:53] <_jason> ofer_: try lsof /media/cdrom0
[06:53] <Dasnipa`> make all
[06:54] <lolzer> unmount ?
[06:54] <rickyjones> Ng, thanks - looks like I just gotta install it from my CD then. oh well. :)
[06:54] <Dasnipa`> unmount is not a valid command... you get bashed... its umount
[06:54] <lolzer> Dasnipa`: lol, my english is terrible
[06:57] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro + ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7411
[06:57] <Vity> how can i adjust permissions for lib folder??/
[06:57] <nalioth> Vity: you don't
[06:58] <Vity> why not?
[06:58] <Ng> Seventh-NIXing: grep /var/log/syslog for dhclient, see what the ubuntu box reckons is happening, dhcp-wose
[06:58] <Ng> -o+i
[06:58] <Seventh-NIXing> Ta.
[06:58] <nalioth> Vity: because it will break your system
[06:58] <Seventh-NIXing> Although I disabled DCHP and set a static IP after that.
[06:58] <Vity> i need to know tho!!
[06:58] <Vity> just tell me
[06:59] <Vity> i am using the live cd so it win't harm me
[06:59] <Vity> *will not
[07:00] <Ng> Seventh-NIXing: ah, well it might not show up so much then, you could try setting it back to dhcp, but run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in a terminal first so you can see what dhclient says as it tries
[07:00] <Vity> nalioth tell me!!
[07:01] <nalioth> Vity: i already have told you.
[07:01] <Vity> tell me how to do it
[07:01] <Vity> not tell me that i shouldnt do it
[07:01] <stpere> Vity, man chmod
[07:02] <stpere> man chown
[07:02] <Seventh-NIXing> Okay, will do.  Where do I get started with that ?
[07:07] <Ghoatman> do I need to download the new KDE binary updates if I use Gnome?
[07:07] <Xenguy> Seb: there's a 'server install' option somewhere
[07:07] <Vity> stpere how do i do that?
[07:08] <Seb> Xenguy: ?
[07:08] <stpere> Vity, sudo tar xvzf ...
[07:08] <Xenguy> Seb: oh, I think I misread your question
[07:08] <mike-w> how do i install a gdm theme?
[07:08] <Vity> ok
[07:08] <AMDXP> are there any other applications that i can use to ssh into another ubuntu box and see a graphical display of that box?
[07:08] <Seb> Xenguy: i think so :)
[07:08] <nalioth> Ghoatman: no you do not, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[07:08] <chmod775> !thunderbird
[07:08] <ubotu> it has been said that thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[07:08] <nalioth> AMDXP: ask google about "x forwarding ssh"
[07:08] <Ghoatman> nalioth: ok thanks
[07:08] <chmod775> !thunderbird1.5
[07:08] <ubotu> thunderbird1.5 is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[07:09] <AMDXP> nalioth: thanks because i tried to install FreeNX and failed miserably
[07:09] <Vity> stpere what does tar xvzf mean?
[07:09] <chmod775> what's FReebx
[07:09] <nalioth> Vity: man tar
[07:09] <graft> nalioth: i think he wants something like VNC
[07:09] <stpere> Vity, x=extract v=verbose z=decompress f=file
[07:09] <AMDXP> FreeNX is like VNC
[07:10] <nalioth> graft: x forwarding will work fine on *nix systems
[07:10] <chmod775> k
[07:10] <Xenguy> chmod775: only faster
[07:10] <graft> yeah, but x forwarding != VNC
[07:10] <graft> it doesn't let you see a desktop
[07:10] <AMDXP> but i just want to be able to get a graphical interface
[07:10] <nalioth> graft: it DOES
[07:10] <graft> urm... how so?
[07:11] <Xenguy> nalioth: I thought X forward just worked app by app (i.e. not the whole desktop)
[07:11] <nalioth> graft: you can xforward anything you like (or use NFS)
[07:11] <graft> yeah, of course you can
[07:11] <graft> but it's going to be ridiculously slow to forward, for example, KDE
[07:11] <graft> much better to use VNC
[07:11] <stpere> graft, I think it's meant to be used mainly on LAN
[07:11] <AMDXP> graft: this is my problem i have a ubuntu box without a monitor or keyboard on it running as a server and i want to be able to ssh into it and see the desktop
[07:12] <miki> awwww
[07:12] <graft> yeah... you want a VNC server running on that box
[07:12] <AMDXP> FreeNX is supposed to be like VNC but faster
[07:12] <Vity> stpere how can i copy and paste files to lib?
[07:12] <relbs_> Is there any way to disable the printer status icons that pop up in the system tray?  My CUPS server has about 100 printers, many of which are always active, so there are about 15 printer icons going crazy in my system tray...
[07:12] <miki> mount Floppy or mount dev/floppy gives me some crap about incorrect file system or none file sytem.. what should i do? reformat fdd?
[07:13] <stpere> Vity, sudo cp file_name /usr/lib
[07:13] <fOx_> Ayuda en espaol??
[07:13] <nalioth> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:13] <fOx_> !es
[07:13] <fOx_> ayuda en espaol?
[07:13] <graft> don't bother, AMDXP... the repos has plenty of working VNC servers that are plenty fast over a LAN connection
[07:13] <_jason> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:13] <nalioth> fOx_: marque /j #ubuntu-es por espanol
[07:13] <lemac> f0x_ this is an english speaking channel
[07:14] <AMDXP> graft but what if i need to connect from work across the net?
[07:14] <fOx_> Thank!
[07:14] <miki> ANYONE CAN HELP ME?
[07:14] <graft> erm... well, depends how good your line is
[07:14] <AMDXP> cable to cable
[07:14] <graft> that's going to suck no matter what, probably...
[07:15] <graft> cable has crappy upload speeds
[07:15] <Bader> I succeed into launching Xorg but xinit and gdm are both broken
[07:15] <graft> but VNC is reasonably low throughput... i'd try it and see
[07:15] <graft> you can try xtightvncviewer... might be better
[07:16] <nalioth> graft: he's talking about cat5+
[07:16] <AMDXP> graft i think i got it i can use vnc to install freenx
[07:16] <nalioth> graft: he said he wanted to run a headless box under his desk or something, iirc
[07:16] <graft> yeah, but now he wants to connect to it from work
[07:17] <miki> anyone can help me with my fdd problem?
[07:18] <alex___> where I can find a good manual about PHP?
[07:18] <_jason> php.net
[07:18] <Vity> is c++ compiler on live cd?
[07:18] <alex___> dosnt exist other place?
[07:18] <_jason> Vity: yes, install build-essential
[07:19] <Vity> where si that?
[07:19] <Vity> *is
[07:19] <Vity> is that on cd???
[07:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell Vity about synaptic
[07:19] <Vity> *live cd?
[07:19] <AMDXP> can i use Nomachine client to access VNC server?
[07:19] <Seb> so, n onet install images for ubuntu ?
[07:19] <Seb> no net
[07:20] <graft> AMDXP: no, they're different protocols
[07:20] <nalioth> Seb: no net images yet
[07:20] <Seb> nalioth: k, thanks
[07:20] <ekimus> hi, i'd like to do the following "if a ssh login fails $n times block the ip for $m hours" anyone knows a good approach to this?
[07:20] <AMDXP> ok so i have to install vncclient on this end
[07:20] <Pavix> What's the package name if I wanna apt-get samba
[07:20] <Vity> _jason where is build essential?
[07:20] <miki> anyone can help me with my fdd problem?
[07:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Pavix about samba
[07:21] <graft> AMDXP: why do you need to install vnc if you want to install freenx?
[07:21] <_jason> Vity: ubotu sent you a link, please read it
[07:21] <nalioth> Vity: read your private messages
[07:21] <Vity> i know!!
[07:21] <Vity> ive read it
[07:21] <Vity> nvm. had to search for it
[07:21] <Seb> if I get the live cd, can I install from it later on if I so choose ?
[07:22] <nalioth> Seb: not at this time
[07:22] <Seb> nalioth: k
[07:22] <ekimus> Seb: nope, afaik the dvd image can do that...
[07:22] <nalioth> Seb: there are plans for dapper or dapper +1 to have a combo live/install disk
[07:22] <AMDXP> graft i want to install vnc so i can get to see the desktop
[07:22] <Seb> nalioth: sounds good
[07:22] <graft> AMDXP: yeah but you just said you want to have freenx installed instead...
[07:22] <Vity> what is excluded on live cd that is there on the install cd?
[07:22] <AMDXP> then once i can see the desktop i can sudo gedit the files i need to get freenx running
[07:22] <nalioth> Seb: or as ekimus points out, you can grab the dvd image via torrent and have both
[07:23] <graft> why can't you just do that in the shell?
[07:23] <Pavix> Thanks nalioth
[07:23] <Alakazam> question, why does windows xp run better under linux & vmware... than it does alone?
[07:23] <AMDXP> because i am not that good yet
[07:23] <Nivko> Hi, can somone help me? When i go to my phpmyadmin dir he says Forbidden (I think maybe know sombody this:p)
[07:23] <graft> you don't know how to edit a file?
[07:23] <AMDXP> i can edit a file
[07:23] <Seb> nalioth: but it's bigger, and my bandwith is limited. I'll stick with a regular cd for now, my friend already has a partition, so I'll hold off on showing him how cool a live cd is ;)
[07:23] <ekimus> Vity: with ubuntu you install software from the repositories which are online so there's pretty much you can install that is not on the live cd
[07:24] <Vity> why are there 2 cd's then????
[07:24] <Alakazam> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3842331/?GT1=7538 <----great potential background pic
[07:24] <Vity> one for installing and one live cd
[07:24] <BrickMaker> why i can't view webcam on kopete
[07:24] <Nivko> Hi, can somone help me? When i go to my phpmyadmin dir he says Forbidden (I think maybe know sombody this:p)
[07:24] <BrickMaker> i got kopete <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Nivko about lamp
[07:25] <nalioth> Nivko: dont repeat so often, please. we are not ignoring you
[07:25] <Nivko> naloiotho
[07:25] <ekimus> Vity: to try ubuntu before touching something on your HD
[07:25] <Nivko> nalioth
[07:25] <Vity> ahh ok
[07:25] <Nivko> I'have apache with that tut
[07:25] <Nivko> and php and mysql, but when im using phpmyadmin
[07:25] <Nivko> he says Forbidden
[07:26] <Vity> how do i extract something into a usr folder???
[07:26] <Vity> it says i am not allowed
[07:26] <miki> when im trying to mount Floppy under ubuntu, it says bad file system..any help?
[07:26] <nalioth> Nivko: have you read that page ubotu sent a link to?
[07:26] <ekimus> Vity: usr doesn't mean user it means unix system resources, if you have to ask how to do that i'm pretty sure you don't need to extract any files in there
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> .....
[07:27] <Vity> i am installing some system files
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> wtf is this crap?
[07:27] <Nivko> nalioth: I SAD: I have installed the webserver and mysql and php with that page
[07:27] <picasso> where can i get a good sources.lst file (like here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories but some of those dont work when s/hoary/breezy/g)
[07:27] <Vity> well, a bit like dll files in windows
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> wb: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:27] <Seveas> picasso, ubutnuguide.org sucks
[07:27] <_jason> Shadowpillar: did you apt-get update?
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> yes
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell picasso about ubuntuguide
[07:27] <Seveas> picasso, try help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:27] <ekimus> Vity: dll files won't work under linux
[07:27] <simonvc> evening all, how do i boot into single user mode so i can fsck my root partition?
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> _jason: that's what's messing up
[07:27] <Vity> i know!!!
[07:27] <picasso> ok
[07:27] <Seveas> simonp, pick 'recovery mode' when booting
[07:28] <_jason> Shadowpillar: are there any gpg errors, someone had those yesterday
[07:28] <Vity> ekimus tell me how to install it to usr/lib
[07:28] <ekimus> Vity: so what are you trying to install? isn't it available in the repositories?
[07:28] <Vity> *extract
[07:28] <Shadowpillar> _jason: nope
[07:28] <g1m> hi there
[07:28] <simonvc> Sev, ah, easy.
[07:28] <transgress> is there anyway to make gnome save window size?
[07:29] <_jason> Shadowpillar: someone was saying security was really slow, how many times have you tried?
[07:29] <BrickMaker> whats kopete latest version
[07:29] <bobinabarn> When installing mythtv-backend I'm getting: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[07:29] <bobinabarn> any thoughts?
[07:29] <Vity> http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
[07:29] <ekimus> Vity: if you must use sudo, but you can find that info in the wiki too... (better learn about user and system resources before you do that)
[07:29] <picasso> is there w32codecs package for breezy
[07:29] <g1m> i want to back up a data cd with a copy protection.. can you suggest any programs to do that ?
[07:29] <nalioth> Vity: libsdl is in the repos. use synaptic
[07:29] <Seveas> Vity, use the ubuntu packages....
[07:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell picasso about w32codecs
[07:29] <Vity> it says it cannot find sdl version
[07:30] <BrickMaker> !tell kopete
[07:30] <joeljkp> anyone know of a web forum that lets you rate individual posts?
[07:30] <nalioth> Vity: search in synaptic for libsdl
[07:30] <ekimus> Vity: what command says that?
[07:30] <BrickMaker> !tell BrickMaker kopete
[07:30] <graft> joeljkp: huh? you mean like software?
[07:30] <Vity> when i try to run this program
[07:30] <Vity> i'll search for it
[07:30] <ekimus> Vity: what program?
[07:30] <BrickMaker> !kopete
[07:30] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[07:30] <Vity> http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
[07:30] <testoclone> ciao a tutti
[07:31] <Vity> http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/
[07:31] <Vity> sorry
[07:31] <nalioth> Vity: are you trying to run it or compile it?
[07:31] <Nivko> ss/server
[07:31] <Vity> run it
[07:31] <nalioth> Vity: there are many libsdl files in synaptic
[07:31] <testoclone> chi mi saprebbe dire un buon lettore dvd
[07:31] <Seveas> testoclone, english please
[07:32] <Vity> ok. 3 versions lol
[07:32] <nalioth> !it
[07:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:32] <BrickMaker> how can i get the latest Kopete
[07:32] <saif> hello, where do i find the setting to have the laptop hibernate when the battery is %5? i am using breezy with the ubuntu power managment applet thing, i think it uses powernowd, the hibernate from the logogg menu hibernate but doesn't wake up correctly, but i think passed upon such a thing on google, my problem is setting the battery percentage hibernate
[07:32] <Vity> what does debian oss mean???
[07:32] <antisocial_boris> hi, im just sorting out my new external hard drive, partitioning it and whatnot. if you wanted to try out a new distro how much free space would you leave?
[07:33] <Seveas> antisocial_boris, 5gb
[07:33] <graft> antisocial_boris: depends how many mp3s you have
[07:33] <BrickMaker> tell me about how to get Latest Kopete
[07:33] <Seveas> so you can instal a lot :)
[07:33] <ekimus> Vity: debian ist the distribution ubuntu is based on, oss == open source software
[07:33] <Shadowpillar> kopete pisses me off
[07:33] <Seveas> BrickMaker: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[07:33] <picasso> w32codecs not loading (tinyurl down?) can someone point me in the right direction?
[07:33] <Vity> ok
[07:33] <picasso> i'm not seeing w32codecs package
[07:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell picasso about restricted
[07:33] <Vity> it still says cannot fins the right version
[07:33] <Seveas> picasso, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/extras
[07:34] <BrickMaker> Seveas, ok!
[07:34] <gnu2it2> what is needed to reassymble a bunch of #.rar files? i think i should end up with a .iso image
[07:34] <Vity> *SDL version  not found!
[07:34] <picasso> seveas: is that for sources.list ?
[07:34] <Seveas> picasso, no
[07:34] <antisocial_boris> if i install a new distro i can make it use my current /home partition and swap partition right? so i'd only need a root partition for it?
[07:34] <graft> gnu2it2: get the 'rar' utility
[07:34] <picasso> not sure what i do w/ that then
[07:34] <Seveas> picasso, deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas extras
[07:34] <nalioth> gnu2it2: unrar-nonfree
[07:34] <seashell11> is there a qtparted or gparted for the 64 bit edition of ubuntu?
[07:35] <nalioth> picasso: read your private messages
[07:35] <Seveas> picasso, you can visit that first url and manually download the deb or add that what I gave later to sources.list :)
[07:35] <picasso> !freeformats
[07:35] <ubotu> well, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:35] <JoeBlow> is their a way to just upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu?
[07:35] <Shadowpillar> seashell11: you could always try searching for the package
[07:35] <Seveas> JoeBlow, that's no upgrade
[07:35] <Seveas> JoeBlow, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> JoeBlow: yeah
[07:36] <Vity> can i downgrade any of the packages???
[07:36] <tristan_> Seveas : I made sudo apt-get install kde : what would be the difference?
[07:36] <saif> can i change my fat partition to ext3 without loosing data?
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> shame xubuntu doesn't come as its own cd distribution
[07:36] <tristan_> Seveas : I have now both gnome and kde on my machine
[07:36] <JoeBlow> Seveas, is it just gonna be different graphically, and can i switch back?
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> Vity: why?
[07:36] <saif> ????
[07:36] <picasso> breezy-seveas complaining about GPG public key
[07:36] <gaz> saif, i would say no, because it needs to be formatted unless you copy the data across to another partition
[07:37] <Seveas> Shadowline, it will
[07:37] <saif> what the hell!! how many ubuntus are there, ok kubuntu i figured out, kde, but xubuntu?
[07:37] <Seveas> picasso, visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl for instruction
[07:37] <Vity> because this program i am using is using sdl version 1.0, while i have 1.2 at the moment
[07:37] <saif> gaz, thanx! :)
[07:37] <robotgeek> saif: xfce + ubuntu, very nice.
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> yanno what's funny about that free formats page?
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> it doesn't apply to anything
[07:37] <nalioth> saif: you cannot.
[07:37] <AMDXP> thanks guys
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> it doesn't matter when most of the content on the web is in avi or wmv format
[07:37] <Seveas> JoeBlow, twie yes
[07:37] <Seveas> twice*
[07:38] <picasso> roger
[07:38] <picasso> hrm, now getting Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[07:38] <saif> not much of a linux geek donno xfce, when i first downloaded ubuntu warty, i downloaded kde, and i tried it, can i do the same with xfce? from the ubuntu repos?
[07:38] <picasso> doh
[07:38] <picasso> use different mirror?
[07:38] <Shadowpillar> and to convert to theora (I dont know of many apps that will do this) you need to get w32codecs anyway so you can read and decode the files
[07:38] <Vity> Shadowpillar: because this program i am using is using sdl version 1.0, while i have 1.2 at the momen
[07:38] <JoeBlow> Seveas, ok once i install it, how do i turn it on
[07:38] <tristan_> What would be the difference between apt-get install kde and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:38] <Seveas> picasso, eh wtd?
[07:38] <Seveas> hmm
[07:38] <ubunTux> greetings to everyone
[07:39] <Shadowpillar> Vity: shouldnt be an issue
[07:39] <Shadowpillar> Vity: what happens when you try to run it?
[07:39] <maxine> could anyone tell me how to save my bookmarks in ubuntu as not to lose them when i do a clean install
[07:39] <nalioth> picasso: did you read your private messages?
[07:39] <soundray> tristan, they are both metapackages. Compare them with 'apt-cache depends'
[07:39] <picasso> nalioth, tinyurl not loading for me.
[07:39] <nalioth> picasso: its not a tinyurl
[07:39] <Vity> Shadowpillar: *** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found*** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in*** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the*** full path to sdl-config.configure: error: *** SDL version  not found!
[07:39] <ubunTux> anyone here i could ask about medical transcriptions in linux?
[07:39] <kie> Evening all, just thought i'd add my first comment on my first ubuntu machine :)
[07:40] <robotgeek> Vity: libsdl-dev or similiar
[07:40] <picasso> so just download and install the deb insteazd of apt-get it?
[07:40] <picasso> is that your suggestion
[07:40] <soundray> ubunTux, what's the question?
[07:40] <Vity> yay!!! nvm fixed it
[07:40] <Vity> thanx everyone
[07:40] <nalioth> picasso: if you go to the restricted formats wiki page there are DIRECT DOWNLOADS of the files you seek
[07:40] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get error: The following tar errors were detected:
[07:40] <giorgos> \c
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: -b1: Not found in archive
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: -b1: Not found in archive
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:40] <picasso> yeah, i see. i'll use that, thanks.
[07:40] <nalioth> picasso: idk what the heck you're getting tinyURLs from
[07:40] <tristan_> OK, so if you have alreday gnome and want to keep it you should do pat-get install kde and if you just want kde and not gnome you should do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, if I undertsand well
[07:41] <robotgeek> giorgos, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:41] <saif> is there anyway to run both gnome and xfce?
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> Vity: Makefile editing time :)
[07:41] <ubunTux> soundray, i have a friend who's into medical transcription business
[07:41] <picasso> nalioth, w32codecs help msg
[07:41] <tristan_> saif : certainly. I run kde and gnome so I think it is possible to have both gnome and xfce
[07:41] <picasso> as opposed to restrictedformats msg
[07:41] <nalioth> picasso: if you've read all your priv msgs .. .. ..
[07:41] <Vity> shadowpillar: do you know what does "start x11" mean?
[07:41] <giorgos> sorry
[07:41] <picasso> i have. i'm dl the .deb. thanks
[07:41] <soundray> tristan_, no, you can have both gnome-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[07:41] <ubunTux> soundray, and off course they are using windows platforms
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> Vity: find where it specifies 1.0 and change it to 1.2
[07:42] <Vity> nvm that!!!
[07:42] <maxine> could anyone tell me where to find the folder that stores bookmarks in ubuntu
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> Vity: starting the pretty gui you use now
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> the underlying layer
[07:42] <nalioth> maxine: for which client? there are as many folders as there are browsers
[07:42] <antisocial_boris> can someone give me some help with my partitioning and formatting of a new hard drive?
[07:42] <ubunTux> soundray, and since license is costly.... i was about to suggest that he should try and migrate to linux
[07:42] <soundray> maxine, it's probably best if you back up your entire /home directory.
[07:42] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7413
[07:42] <tristan_> soundray : but if you have allready install gnome, some part of kde-desktop is already in your gnome-desktop (like openoffice...) so install kde seems good
[07:42] <nalioth> antisocial_boris: if you ask a question
[07:42] <Vity> hmm. it says i need to start x11
[07:42] <maxine> for firefox
[07:43] <robotgeek> maxine: .mozilla/firefox/<profile>/
[07:43] <tristan_> maxine : you can export your firefox bookmarks
[07:43] <maxine> but i can't find the folder in my home dir
[07:43] <ubunTux> soundray, the problem is, i don't know of any softwares he could use in linux for his business
[07:43] <nalioth> maxine: in your ~/.mozilla-firefox directory
[07:43] <saif> tristan_  well, with kde it's easy, there is a package that contains all the stuff u need for kde, but i couldn't find such a thing for ubuntu in the repos i found!
[07:43] <nalioth> maxine: it's an invisible folder
[07:43] <giorgos> any ideas?
[07:43] <maxine> k thx
[07:43] <ekimus> Vity: i'd really recommend you to read _basic_ documentation about how linux works a good starting point is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrontPage
[07:43] <antisocial_boris> i just partitioned my hard drive and tried mkds.ext3 /dev/sdb1 but got an error because its apparently mounted
[07:43] <tristan_> saif : well, to get kde after installing gnome I just type sudo apt-get install kde and it worked....
[07:44] <Vity> how do i start something??
[07:44] <giorgos> i don't think it's a tar problem cos it seems to work fine
[07:44] <ubunTux> soundray: do you know of something or some software for medical transcription business that can be used under linux
[07:44] <Vity> except commandlibe
[07:44] <soundray> ubunTux, what software is he using in Windows?
[07:44] <Vity> *commandline
[07:44] <nalioth> tristan_: saif: you get better results with 'kubuntu-desktop'
[07:44] <ubunTux> soundray: i was about to suggest Ubuntu to hime
[07:44] <antisocial_boris> why is it mounted already?
[07:44] <tristan_> nalioth : OK
[07:44] <Shadowpillar> antisocial_boris: is that your root partition
[07:44] <ubunTux> soundray: if i'm not mistaken he's using Transcription Buddy
[07:44] <antisocial_boris> no, its a partition on my new external hard drive
[07:44] <saif> tristan_,  yes, but there is no xfce package, nalioth, i need xfce not kde! :) don't fancy kde that much, never heard of xfce before
[07:45] <antisocial_boris> i just made it
[07:45] <ubunTux> soundray: for the audio files to transcribe
[07:45] <trojaavr> Could anyone explain the major differences between KDE and Gnome?
[07:45] <ekimus> Vity: another page to start with is help.ubuntu.com (will tell you a lot about how things work)
[07:45] <mike-e> anyone try enlightenment 17 beta on ubuntu yet?
[07:45] <soundray> ubunTux, I see, so he's mainly typing up dictations?
[07:45] <tristan_> Where is the splash screen folder?
[07:45] <ubunTux> soundray: yes
[07:46] <tristan_> saif : use synaptic and look for xfce you should find it
[07:46] <ubunTux> soundray: they are also using foot pedals for controlling the audio player
[07:46] <Vity> how do i start a certain program tho???
[07:46] <giorgos> any ideas?
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> mike-e: latest or just in general?
[07:46] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7413
[07:46] <mike-e> Shadowpillar, the latest
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> I wasnt too impressed with it, sure, it's shiny and pretty, but it isnt all that practical imho
[07:46] <ekimus> trojaavr: are you trying to start a holy war? :) to me the main difference is that theres more k* software available i use and i think kde applications are better integrated into the desktop than in gnome (but that's just my personal opinion)
[07:46] <LoPMX> does anyone know how to fix the problem witmy mysql (/var/run/mysqld) permissions being set wrong every time the machine reboots?
[07:46] <Blippe> saif xubuntu
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> oh, havent tried the latest
[07:47] <ubunTux> soundray: i've seen some speech recognition projects for medical transcriptions but don't knoe much about it... :-(
[07:47] <tristan_> Where is the splash screen folder?
[07:47] <ekimus> LoPMX: wrong in which way?
[07:47] <saif> tristan_,  ok, xfce4? i can't find an xfce-desktop
[07:47] <soundray> ubunTux, I'm not aware of any specific Linux software that enables transcription, but there are a number of medical-practice related projects out there.
[07:48] <saif> Blippe, i just need to install xfce, i have a perfectly ( almost ) running ubuntu (gnome)
[07:48] <ubunTux> soundray: mostly ERM's :-(
[07:48] <robotgeek> ubunTux: i think there is one called vista
[07:48] <Vity> how do i find out which prgrams i have installed and how to launch them?
[07:48] <tristan_> saif : I don't think there is xfce desktop. Read what the description says
[07:48] <ubunTux> robotgeek: i believe it's also an ERM right
[07:48] <ekimus> Vity: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[07:48] <saif> tristan_, allrighty! thanx!
[07:49] <LoPMX> ekimus, the dir owner is being set to root.mysql everytime i reboot
[07:49] <saif> exit
[07:49] <ubunTux> robotgeek, soundray: i don't even have any idea what an ERM does :D
[07:49] <trappist> Vity: dpkg -l to answer the first question. dpkg -L pkgname | grep bin/ will get you started on the second.
[07:49] <robotgeek> ubunTux: no clue, i read about it long time ago. i too have no clue what an ERM is
[07:49] <LoPMX> so it means that after rebooting i can't use any mysql clients, i have to manually chown mysql.mysql for /var/run/mysql and chmod it 755
[07:49] <ubunTux> robotgeek, soundray: pardon me. but i really don't know much about this business also
[07:49] <trappist> LoPMX: how did you install mysql? it works perfectly here.
[07:49] <ubunTux> robotgeek: thanks anyway
[07:50] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro + ifconfig + syslog tail: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7414
[07:50] <robotgeek> ubunTux: no problem
[07:50] <ekimus> LoPMX: why not try to chmod it to 775? so that the group can actually use it?
[07:50] <seashell11> would this work with ubuntu http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why
[07:50] <soundray> ubuntux, electronic record management seems to me to wide a remit for what your friend is looking for.
[07:50] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: what about route -n
[07:50] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: and what's the ip of your gateway
[07:50] <Shadowpillar> seashell11: is it for grub or lilo?
[07:51] <seashell11> grub
[07:51] <Vity> wow
[07:51] <soundray> ubunTux, I also think it might be hard to make a business case for moving away from Windows, especially if the software investments are already in place.
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> k
[07:51] <LoPMX> ekimus, but i have to do it EVERY TIME I REBOOT
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> prolly will
[07:51] <LoPMX> trappist, i upgraded to mysql 5.0 using synaptic
[07:51] <seashell11> grub can't boot to windows since windows is set up with raid
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> I gotta grab that stuff to read so I can put ubuntu on a friend's compy
[07:51] <trappist> LoPMX: what's your source for 5.0? afaik it's not official
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> so when the inevitable happens (aka, XP explodes) there will be linux
[07:51] <Seventh-NIXing> <IP_ADDRESS>, trappist.
[07:51] <ekimus> LoPMX: you could always add those commands to the script in /etc/init.d/ that start up mysql
[07:51] <Seventh-NIXing> Lemme just route -n...
[07:52] <ubunTux> soundray: ic... so do you think there are no software available for such business type in linux?
[07:52] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: heh, your default route is totally invalid: 19<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:52] <tristan_> Where is the splash screen folder? I want to modify my splash screen
[07:52] <Vity> trappist: thanks for that, but how do i start any of those?
[07:52] <Seventh-NIXing> I might have mis-typed it... most of that isn't copy-pasted.
[07:52] <aspuru> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a friend's laptop, for the first time after about 10 installations, I can't resize the NTFS partition because after defragmenting it still has files spread all over the disk
[07:52] <Seventh-NIXing> Only the tail is.
[07:52] <LoPMX> trappist, im using dapper
[07:52] <Seventh-NIXing> The rest, I was typing blindly on one keyboard while my only monitor was switched to m'Ubuntu box.
[07:52] <trappist> Vity: the answer is different for each package.  I told you where to start a minute ago.
[07:53] <LoPMX> ekimus, hmmm
[07:53] <LoPMX> ekimus, but it should not happer at all
[07:53] <aspuru> What can one do about this? I 1) defragment 2) use the live cd with gparted but gparted fails because the disk is not really compressed to the beginning of the partition
[07:53] <trappist> LoPMX: dapper's unsupported.  sounds to me like a bug that should be filed, if it hasn't already
[07:53] <LoPMX> trappist, i have already filled it
[07:53] <soundray> ubunTux, no, I wouldn't say that. I'd search on the web, which you're obviously done.
[07:53] <Seventh-NIXing> Yeah, the default is <IP_ADDRESS>, trappist.
[07:53] <aspuru> does anybody know what to do in this situation?
[07:53] <Vity> trappist: i understand, but how do i know which file to click to launch the app?
[07:53] <nalioth> aspuru: boot into windows and run scandisk or chkdisk
[07:54] <ekimus> LoPMX: maybe any updates you missed? i'm not using mysql sorry, i stick with postgres
[07:54] <antisocial_boris> i just sucessfully reformatted and mounted one partition(/dev/sdb1) on my new ext hard drive, but when i try to mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb2 it claims it doesnt exist. what's going on?
[07:54] <soundray> ubunTux, what's the specific reason he wants to (or you want him to) abandon Windows?
[07:54] <aspuru> nalioth: scandisk on xp?
[07:54] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: read it again
[07:54] <ubunTux> soundray: yeah... web is such a big help as i always use before asking... but i haven't had much luck on searching
[07:54] <shaun680> hi, can anyone help me geting my wireless card working please?
[07:54] <nalioth> aspuru: i mentioned two programs (i have never run XP)
[07:54] <robotgeek> shaun680, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shaun680 about wireless
[07:55] <talisein> Did anyone else get a "can't be authenticated" error on today's Breezy update?
[07:55] <ubunTux> soundray, well i was the one who suggested him to migrate to linux to be cost-effective
[07:55] <TSWoodV> Greetings!
[07:55] <kraftwerk> how do I change the screen resolution in gnome? (from the command line)
[07:55] <aspuru> ubotu: tell aspuru about partitioning
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> Here's the route -n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7416.
[07:55] <ubunTux> soundray, we all know that windows license hurt specially if you're on a start-up business
[07:55] <TSWoodV> How do you define which network location under "network settings" is the default one?
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> I checked ip ro again on the box.
[07:55] <ompaul> aspuru, change the splash screen and replace it with something saying vista and give them ubuntu :-)
[07:55] <Vity> can someone tell me how to start x11?
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> It's <IP_ADDRESS> really, just typo-d.
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> startx should do it.
[07:56] <aspuru> ompaul: this guy needs dual boot
[07:56] <ubunTux> soundray, aside from the OS, you also need to get licenses for office applications
[07:56] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: what does route -n say.
[07:56] <aspuru> but the freaking "defragmenter" does not put the files at hte beginning of hte partition as it should
[07:56] <Seventh-NIXing> Just appended it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7416.
[07:56] <soundray> ubunTux, without having assessed the case thoroughly, I'd say that cost savings alone will not justify the transition.
[07:56] <ompaul> aspuru, I was being funny :-)
[07:56] <kraftwerk> no really how do I change the resolution from the command line? gnome is kind of broken over here:/
[07:56] <aspuru> ok ompaul
[07:56] <soundray> ubunTux, you'd have to have a more compelling reason, like wanting to escape vendor lock-in.
[07:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kraftwerk about fixres
[07:57] <ekimus> kraftwerk: edit xorg.conf and restart x
[07:57] <kraftwerk> already did that, nvidia drivers didn't work but now gnome freaks out
[07:57] <kraftwerk> all I've got right now is the failsafe commandline
[07:57] <mike-w> After I cvs something how do i implement it? in this case it's enlightenment 17 beta
[07:57] <ubunTux> soundray: you got a point. well i was also planning on suggesting or implementing (just in case) LTSP on his workstations
[07:57] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: oh, I'm seeing that netdev watchdog thing.  if you bring the device down and back up, does it work for a while?
[07:58] <soundray> ubunTux, to save costs on office software, I'd suggest moving to OpenOffice first.
[07:58] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mike-w about compile
[07:58] <mike-e> it told me nothing
[07:58] <mike-e> !compile
[07:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[07:58] <nalioth> mike-e: follow the instructions at get-e.org
[07:58] <soundray> ubunTux, I'm not sure that LTSP supports the audio transfer capability that you would need for medical transcription.
[07:58] <Vity> how do i start a certain package for example x11
[07:58] <ubunTux> soundray, one more thing he's worried about is Spywares/viruses/etc on windows
[07:58] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get the following error: /bin/tar: -b1: Not found in archive
[07:58] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: you'll have to remind me how to do that :) I don't think so though.
[07:59] <Seventh-NIXing> Maybe you got the arguments confused?
[07:59] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[07:59] <nalioth> mike-e: i have an easier way, tho.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment
[07:59] <giorgos> any ideas?
[07:59] <Vity> how do i start a certain package for example x11
[07:59] <ompaul> ubunTux, not having to reinstall, not paying a random sum of money to run the latest version having held off onthe upgrade for as long as possible to get greeted with a "rent an O/S" having to buy additional software like av/firewalls because you bought something that was as open as a merc clk 500 with no locks on it and the key in the ignition with a full fuel tank so then stay as you are
[07:59] <Vity> i dont want to start from commandline tho
[07:59] <ekimus> Vity: i gave you 2 links did you actually read them?
[07:59] <TSWoodV> How do you designate a default network location under network settings?
[07:59] <trappist> Vity: X11 is already running unless you're looking at a blank console login screen
[07:59] <giorgos> anuyone who could help?
[08:00] <Vity> i did read them. they are installed
[08:00] <ompaul> !tell giorgos about ask
[08:00] <trappist> giorgos: you get that when you do what.
[08:00] <giorgos> huh?
[08:00] <ubunTux> soundray, basically, what they do is, download the audio files then each and every MT's he have working for him will play it and transcribe/type it on MS Word
[08:00] <giorgos> trappist, didn't understand
[08:00] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: no joy.
[08:00] <trappist> giorgos: what do you do to get that error.
[08:01] <mike-e> that didn't help
[08:01] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: anything interesting in the last few lines of the output of `dmesg`?
[08:01] <giorgos> trappist, trying to install a program
[08:01] <Vity> what is the actual name for x11?
[08:01] <giorgos> trappist, running a setup.sh
[08:01] <soundray> ubunTux, so when you equip each MT (?) with a thin client, how will they listen to the audio files?
[08:01] <trappist> giorgos: please try to be specific.
[08:01] <giorgos> trappist, ok:
[08:01] <miki> i need some help with floppy in ubuntu, anyone can help me?
[08:01] <pixelfairy> anyone know the H/V sync for a 1024x768 laptop screen?
[08:02] <pixelfairy> this thing keeps going in 800x600
[08:02] <trappist> pixelfairy: it's different for each screen
[08:02] <ekimus> Vity: do you have a graphical user interface? if so x11 (xorg) is already running
[08:02] <giorgos> trappist, i run a setup.sh and it asks installation directory, i put a desired one and then get that error
[08:02] <Vity> ekimus: it just says i need to start it and configure some stuff on it
[08:02] <ubunTux> soundray, i was thinking that he should also have a file server where the audio files are stored to make it centralized and is accessible to all MTs
[08:02] <trappist> giorgos: installation script for what
[08:02] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: that just tail /etc/var/syslog? Only different things I see are "eth0 no IPv6 routers" and a couple of "restarting configuration" messages where I did the down/up.
[08:02] <ekimus> Vity: the actual name for x11 is x11, it is just a protocol, the implementation ubuntu uses is called xorg
[08:03] <Vity> ok thank you very much
[08:03] <mike-e> nalioth, this is the first time i've cvs'd something, how can I implement enlightenment now that the cvs has finished it's fetching?
[08:03] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: no, it's not the same, but a lot of the messages will be in both
[08:03] <giorgos> trappist, to install a program
[08:03] <trappist> giorgos: I give up.
[08:03] <Vity> ekimus: it does not recognise x11 or xorg
[08:03] <ubunTux> soundray, one more problem he encounters is there are times that a file is being downloaded twice or even more
[08:03] <giorgos> trappist, nice way to treat a nob
[08:03] <ompaul> miki, are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:03] <miki> ubuntu
[08:03] <ubunTux> soundray, on each PC
[08:04] <mike-e> ompaul, me?
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: you have to build the software you've fetched using cvs
[08:04] <trappist> giorgos: installation scripts are for installing programs.  I asked you to be specific.  I can't help you.
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: did you get the link i showed you?
[08:04] <ompaul> mike-e, no
[08:04] <TSWoodV> Anyone else here use network locations?  If so, how do you get them to work properly?
[08:04] <mike-e> nalioth, yessir
[08:04] <mike-e> nalioth, i guess i don't understand what a cvs is
[08:04] <soundray> ubunTux, to solve that, you need a fileserver to which every workstation has access.
[08:04] <mike-e> nalioth, so it downloads the depended packages/files, then I have to build it?
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: a cvs is a versioning system. it keeps track of the very latest source code.
[08:04] <soundray> ubunTux, not thin clients.
[08:04] <giorgos> trappist, i'm trying to... u don't help me be specif i can't imagine what's the info u r looking for
[08:04] <trappist> mike-e: installing e17 is a pretty involved process.  you're going to need to read a lot of docs to have any hope of success.
[08:04] <TSWoodV> I've defined three different locations.  I want one of them set as the default location.  I can't figure out how to do that.
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: try my link to the forums first
[08:05] <ubunTux> soundray, and if migrating to linux won't suite him... well probably i would like to help him on his LAN setup
[08:05] <trappist> giorgos: I want to know what you're trying to install.
[08:05] <Vity> ekimus:what is x11??? is that like the actual gui?
[08:05] <TSWoodV> SuSE has this feature and it works.  Fedora Core more or less works too.
[08:05] <mike-e> so i should just wait until it's officially released so i don't break my box again
[08:05] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: seems to be just the same as that tail network-wise. Last non-syslog-repeat messages seem to be a few when I removed my pendrive.
[08:05] <trappist> Vity: X11 is a protocol.  xorg is the software that implements it, and it's what drives your gui.
[08:05] <ubunTux> soundray, oh! yes, i thought of that one first. LTSP just came to my mind to cut cost on hardware also
[08:05] <Seventh-NIXing> Vity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11
[08:05] <ompaul> miki, if you type >> cat /etc/fstab << do you get a line that looks like this >> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[08:05] <ompaul> <<
[08:05] <nalioth> mike-e: if you follow my ubuntuforums link for e17, you won't harm anything
[08:06] <giorgos> trappist, now are tuned up i think, it's an electronic design software, sth like a CAD
[08:06] <antisocial_boris> can anyone tell my why one of my partitions isnt showing up in /dev?
[08:06] <mike-e> nalioth, ok i didn't see it
[08:06] <soundray> ubunTux, I don't know if migrating would suit him, and I'm not saying that it wouldn't. But no migration is better than a failed migration. If the motive is cost-savings and nothing else, your friend may well be disappointed.
[08:06] <nalioth> mike-e: now you will...in a PM
[08:06] <ubunTux> soundray, i understand...
[08:07] <soundray> ubunTux, Linux has many advantages, but you have to appreciate them before a migration will be successful.
[08:07] <trappist> giorgos: whatever is going wrong is a problem with the setup script (apparently).  there's nothing more I can tell you withing knowing what software it is so I can peek at the setup script, and I've lost interest in beating that information out of you.
[08:07] <ubunTux> soundray, ic. well, how about this...
[08:07] <poimen> how do I install blackdown java for ubuntu 64
[08:07] <poimen> ??
[08:07] <poimen> someone kwons ?
[08:07] <miki> ompaul: omw to test it brb
[08:07] <nalioth> poimen: use synaptic
[08:07] <poimen> I enabled the responsitorys and nothing
[08:07] <poimen> :(
[08:07] <ompaul> ubunTux, and soundray can you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:08] <nalioth> poimen: search for "jre"
[08:08] <giorgos> trappist, ok have fun
[08:08] <poimen> I searched by j2re1.4
[08:08] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[08:08] <soundray> ompaul, sure. Okay, ubuntux?
[08:09] <ubunTux> soundray: ok...
[08:09] <mike-e> nalioth, beautiful
[08:09] <mike-e> nalioth, how do you like e17?
[08:09] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro + ifconfig + syslog tail + route -n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7416
[08:09] <nalioth> mike-e: as you say... beautiful
[08:09] <mike-e> =)
[08:09] <poimen> nalioth no luck :(
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> I'm from hungary, and my english grammar is very shit, so i try to format my q:)
[08:09] <giorgos> trappist, wish everyone were as helpful as u
[08:09] <nalioth> poimen: grab it from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> So i'm installed ubuntu 3-4 days ago, and i'm a newbie, but its work, and i think its a good os. But i want to configure grub
[08:10] <FarrisG> Why doies vino eat up so much CPU and react far more sluggishly than vnc-server?
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> My prroblem is about config file, and the device setting
[08:10] <JoeBlow> ok, I tried KDE, its easier in some ways, but i like Gnome way better, back to the Gnome mobile batman!
[08:10] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, what do you want to configure it for?
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> i have two wincehsters, and i want to boot from the second
[08:10] <FarrisG> I'd like to find an alternative, but I just can't find away to create a VNC server attached to the console X session, other than vino-server
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> the hda with 2 partitions have the ubuntu
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> and hdb with many partitions have the win.
[08:11] <trappist> giorgos: help me help you.  ask answerable questions.  be specific.  something like "I did _______ and ______ happened.  I read the ______ docs and tried ______ but it didn't help.  what am I doing wrong?"
[08:11] <trappist> oh nm
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i tried : root		(hd1,5)
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> and root		(hdb,5)
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> but not works ...
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> the default is hd0
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> root		(hd0,0)
[08:11] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, there should be a "chainloader" in there hang on a second
[08:12] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, do not paste in here
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know what is chainloader
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> sorry
[08:12] <juliux> hi i need help with qmail under ubuntu
[08:12] <BrickMaker> any one experience with Kopete?
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> so comment the chainloader flag?
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> it have one: chainloader	+1
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> title, root, makeactive and chainloader
[08:13] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, it should point to the windows partition
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> hd0 -> 5th
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> hdb
[08:14] <jino> hi
[08:14] <jino> how can i install skype?
[08:14] <Perebron> abi chip ubuntu virmis
[08:14] <Perebron> nasil settircez
[08:14] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:14] <ompaul> !skype
[08:14] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:14] <bart__> What program do you guys reckon to use for downloading from newsgroups?
[08:15] <nalioth> bart__: use 'pan'
[08:15] <pestilence> bart__: pan, slrn, klibido
[08:15] <pestilence> depends on what you intend to do
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7417
[08:16] <pestilence> bart__: klibido is nice for binaries
[08:16] <Katie^> whats libdvdcss?
[08:16] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, please give me several minutes to read and get back to you
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, thank you
[08:16] <nalioth> Katie^: dvd decryption lib
[08:16] <Katie^> is that the reason my dvds wont play?
[08:17] <bart__> thank you pestilence! :)
[08:17] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, cat /boot/menu/grub.lst
[08:17] <Katie^> okies
[08:17] <Katie^> it's working
[08:17] <Katie^> thanks
[08:18] <[A] ndy80> hi
[08:18] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, that is what I wanted
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> nowhere this file
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> menu.lst
[08:19] <Alakazam> how do i install wlanctl-ng?
[08:19] <[A] ndy80> a strange thing. In these days, probably after a simple upgrade, both firefox and amule very often take 50-60% cpu and the whole system become very slow. Is anyone of you experiencing the same problem?
[08:19] <Vity> how do i install java sun on ubuntu?
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7418
[08:19] <mwe> !java
[08:19] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:19] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, >>cat /boot/grub/menu.lst<<  :-/ oops
[08:20] <JoeBlow> hey, im trying to run a link that does "wine /media/sda4/Quake2/quake2.exe" but it doesnt work properly, it starts the program but then crashes, if i run the same thing in terminal it works tho
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^
[08:20] <Alakazam> Vity, check the web for "asy breezy"
[08:20] <Alakazam> easy breezy
[08:20] <Vity> what?
[08:20] <graft> JoeBlow: that's because wine sucks
[08:20] <Alakazam> Vity, check the web for "easy breezy"
[08:20] <Alakazam> w1n3 pwn5 j00
[08:21] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, when you boot, you get offered windows on the screen is that correct?
[08:21] <jordo23> Is it possible to install SWF with fantastico and have Joomla recognize it automatically?
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, its alist
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> ubuntu ... and win
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> but not boot
[08:21] <mikol> "cat /etc/fstab" gives me >> "/media/floppy auto r,user,noauto 0 0"
[08:21] <skbera> Hello everyone...
[08:21] <Seventh-NIXing> Hi.
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> tells variable of errors
[08:22] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, is that message from windows or grub?
[08:22] <skbera> I have a question. Is there any way to kill a process with "Disk sleep" status?
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> grub
[08:22] <trappist> skbera: you can try killing its parent process, but generally no
[08:22] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, is it possible that windows will only start if it is on hda?
[08:23] <trappist> ompaul: that's true of win9x
[08:23] <ompaul> trappist, do we know of xp?
[08:23] <trappist> ompaul: not true of xp
[08:23] <skbera> But its pppd process that hangs up frequently & its parent is init.
[08:23] <mobodo__> if I have a dual core cpu, it should appear as 2 cpus when I cat /proc/cpuinfo, right?
[08:23] <ompaul> trappist, ahh
[08:23] <pixelfairy> so this laptop, which will do 1024x768 on knoppix, refuses to in ubuntu, even when using the knoppix x config
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[08:23] <trappist> skbera: doh
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> the xp is on the hdb
[08:24] <trappist> as long as xp *knows* it's on hdb - you can't just move it and expect it to work
[08:24] <pixelfairy> its stuck at 800x600 despite 1024 being the only res known
[08:25] <graft> trappist: err, why not?
[08:25] <graft> it should work no matter where it is
[08:25] <lightbright> hello
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: what is the way to i get the number of my second winchester? hdX ?
[08:26] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, hdb1
[08:26] <lightbright> is there any way to permantely remove something from always showing in the update notifier as I dont need kernel 383, as I use kernel 686?
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: hd0 is the lin winchester, hda
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i try
[08:26] <skbera> Please help me. I ant to know how to kill a process with "Disk Sleep" status and as init its parent process, without restarting my PC.
[08:26] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, hd0 hd1
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> and will be back about 2-3 minutes
[08:27] <lightbright> ompaul: hello
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> what?
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i tried hd1
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not work.
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i try hdb1
[08:27] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, hang on
[08:27] <skbera> Please help me. I want to know how to kill a process with "Disk Sleep" status and as init its parent process, without restarting my PC.
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul:  okay.
[08:27] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, this may help  (hd1,0)
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> try?
[08:28] <lightbright> skbera: maybe try killall ?
[08:28] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, if you want
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> thx i be back soon
[08:29] <skbera> lightbright: I have tried all the kill commands including killall.
[08:29] <lightbright> skbera: then I see no other alternative sorry
[08:29] <lightbright> skbera: is there any way to permantely remove something from always showing in the update notifier as I dont need kernel 383, as I use kernel 686?
[08:30] <lightbright> 386
[08:30] <kalp> wow...amazing..
[08:30] <einPaule> Hi everybody, Im trying to get OpenOffice Base to work, ive installed apache and mySQL, but dont know how to get ODBC working...
[08:31] <skbera> lightbright: Thank-u for ur help...
[08:31] <graft> einPaule, um... do you have some oracle server for lunix?
[08:31] <einPaule> nope
[08:31] <graft> do you have some Winblows box running ODBC?
[08:32] <gverig> Is there a way to configure Ubuntu to use all features of microsoft keyboards and trackballs (like all buttons and stuff)?
[08:32] <pestilence> gverig: yes, use xmodmap
[08:32] <mwe> einPaule: I use jdbc
[08:33] <pestilence> gverig: there are probably ways to do it through gnome too, i know you can do it in kde
[08:33] <gverig> pestilence: does xmodmap work for trackballs?
[08:33] <graft> einPaule: just use mySQL, what's wrong with that?
[08:33] <pestilence> gverig: hrmmm, don't know about that
[08:33] <graft> gverig: no, you have to fool with your Xorg config for that, i think...
[08:34] <gverig> pestilence: Are there standard layouts for ms keyboard?
[08:34] <graft> the 104-key keyboard should cover most MS keyboards
[08:34] <mortal5> hey guys, why doesn't glxgears spit anything out to console?
[08:34] <graft> mortal5: probably because everything is working ok?
[08:34] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: re, So the first reboot, it said: "Filesystem is unknown, partition type: 0x7 and...
[08:35] <pestilence> gverig: http://www.google.com/search?q=xmodmap+microsoft+keyboard
[08:35] <cookie__> l
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> and the next reboot, the win is tried to boot
[08:35] <gverig> graft: Well, it has some extra stuff, like 5 favorite programs, zoom handle, back/forward, etc.
[08:35] <gverig> pestilence: that's cheating ;)
[08:35] <mortal5> graft, well how am i supposed to benchmark my nvidia module without a fps printout?
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> (the grub set my bios's option of boot devices?
[08:35] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, and it did what?
[08:35] <pestilence> gverig: second link looks like gold
[08:35] <trappist> mortal5: it's changed.  it doesn't anymore.
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> so i' saw the bios first boot device is my xp winchester
[08:35] <graft> mortal5: oh... you want fps um...
[08:35] <mortal5> yeah lol
[08:36] <mortal5>  I want my old glxgears back lol
[08:36] <Cyphon> any ubuntu users with bind installed, I need your /etc/init.d/bind so I can replace mine so I can reinstall bind
[08:36] <graft> um... i think you just wait long enough?
[08:36] <MetaMorfoziS> the xp isn't boot because"missing ntldr, so its fucked, win need reisntall, not problem (i think the problem during the instal)
[08:36] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, grub talks to all drives, it is normally on the first disk, and then allows you to point to a partition that should boot if all is well
[08:36] <gverig> pestilence: yup, it does.
[08:36] <pestilence> Cyphon: why not just "touch /etc/init.d/bind"
[08:37] <pestilence> Cyphon: or for that matter, force the reinstall
[08:37] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, when that is done then you need this to recover
[08:37] <Cyphon> It needs the remove function in it
[08:37] <graft> argh... these ATI radeon drivers suck
[08:37] <ompaul> !ntfs
[08:37] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[08:37] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, sorry wrong one
[08:37] <ompaul> !grub
[08:37] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:37] <mortal5> this is stupid, why would ubuntu change the *only* 3d bench we have?
[08:37] <mwe> mortal5: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:37] <Cyphon> I tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall bind
[08:37] <trappist> mortal5: it's not an ubuntu change
[08:37] <Cyphon> but it cries about missing remove function in /etc/init,d/bind
[08:37] <trappist> mortal5: and glxgears is pretty invalid as a benchmarking tool
[08:38] <graft> HOLY SHIT
[08:38] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul:  so impossible if i want grub all starts? (dontcare the last os)
[08:38] <graft> that is hilarious
[08:38] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[08:38] <mwe> mortal5: try that and it prints the fps
[08:38] <peissard> hey
[08:38] <tobia> excuse me: were can I download the kernel sources for Ubuntu (Debian)??? thank zou
[08:38] <graft> nicely done, mwe
[08:38] <peissard> go to google.com
[08:38] <mwe> graft: it's true
[08:38] <peissard> and search for it
[08:38] <graft> yeah, i tried it
[08:38] <peissard> download ubuntu
[08:38] <peissard> gnome.com or something
[08:38] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, I have seen grub start with operating systems on different disks
[08:38] <trappist> mwe: that's awesome
[08:39] <pestilence> Cyphon: how about dpkg -i --force-overwrite (the deb in /var/cache/apt)
[08:39] <Cyphon> ok, ty 1 sec
[08:39] <mwe> trappist: if you don't like what it spits out, just make the windows really small and you'll get a nice fps ;)
[08:39] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, personally I only run one o/s per machine
[08:39] <trappist> mwe: or even better, minimize it :)
[08:40] <MetaMorfoziS> it's you:( i want xp few fuck'n thing (for ex my KRESZ exam fuck'n delphi style exam program)
[08:40] <graft> not with this crappy driver i won't
[08:41] <robotgeek> MetaMorfoziS: language
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> so, i install win on the second disk
[08:41] <soundray> trappist, just make sure you don't forget that it's not a benchmark! :)
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> (during i swith off my ubuntu winch.)
[08:41] <Nivko> What command was for closing Vi?
[08:41] <trappist> :q!
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> and it's work (but need recover in bios, the boot deivces)?
[08:42] <Dasnipa`> whats the apt flag to see the files installed from a package
[08:42] <trappist> soundray: maybe I should add "echo $DISCLAIMER" to that alias, just in case
[08:42] <Cyphon> pestilence: thank you
[08:42] <MetaMorfoziS> robotgeek: i'm from hungary and my english grammar is bad, like i sayed up^^
[08:42] <pestilence> Cyphon: np
[08:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Nivko about vim
[08:42] <soundray> trappist, is that enough though? Maybe you should add a dialog "Are you SURE you want to run this tool?"
[08:43] <Cyphon> Also, is there a shortcut key to push to during boot up to skip and service that is not starting and just sitting there?
[08:43] <Cyphon> an*
[08:43] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, bad language is not needed, - I am trying to figure out what would be the easiest solution for you