[00:00] <wolter> Hi all
[00:01] <wolter> I understand the meeting for the people inscribed on the regional boards for memberships is here?
[00:01] <wolter> Or am I too late?
[00:03] <wolter> Anybody not afk?
[00:04] <wolter> Aw... I wanted to be a member so bad.
[00:07] <wolter> Hi ian_brasil
[00:07] <wolter> Are you an ubuntu member?
[00:17] <wolter> merriam,
[01:56] <Flare183> xq: I'm already here
[01:58] <xq> slacker
[02:21] <etank> was the membership meeting last night?
[02:28] <vorian> etank: yep
[02:28] <etank> xq: ^^
[02:29] <etank> xq: looks like it did already happen man
[02:29] <etank> thanks vorian
[02:29] <vorian> it's a bit confusing with the UTC
[02:30] <xq> yeah, skimmed the date
[02:30] <vorian> we have meetings so late, it's already another day UTC time
[02:30] <xq> and time, put a GCal entry for tonight (9PM EST)
[02:30] <xq> then realized the dates didn't match (on the Wiki page) and was like "uh oh"
[02:31] <xq> and of course the masterful etank was like "That's because it's already passed in UTC time!"
[02:32] <vorian> sounds like you need to use kontact :P
[02:32] <xq> or something ;)
[02:32] <xq> vorian and his KDE.
[02:32] <vorian> \o/
[02:33] <xq> KDE is for the birds.
[02:33] <xq> And vorians.
[02:33] <xq> I've Evolutioned. ;p
[02:36] <vorian> no one is perfect, i suppose
[04:17] <wolter> etank, hey, you applied too?
[05:27] <xq> wolter: no, i shoved him in here :\
[05:27] <wolter> Heh.
[05:27] <wolter> You applied.
[05:28] <wolter> I know because I saw you in the table =D.
[05:28] <xq> yea
[05:28] <wolter> right xq ?
[05:28] <wolter> hah
[05:28] <xq> and showed up on the wrong day
[05:28] <wolter> Have you been accepted yet?
[05:28] <xq> he did my dirty work for me
[05:28] <wolter> Yeah, me too :(.
[05:28] <wolter> etank did
[05:28] <wolter> ?
[05:28] <xq> I saw the March 6th and then skimmed for the time and saw the "9PM EST"
[05:29] <xq> And made it easy on myself and used it for my GCal entry
[05:29] <xq> But, of course, easy way isn't always the best ;)
[05:29] <xq> From now on I know always to use -the -link- and use UTC to for *everything*
[05:30] <wolter> Yeah.
[05:30] <wolter> Damn UTC.
[05:30] <wolter> It got me confused too.
[05:30] <wolter> It should be in GMT I say.
[05:30] <wolter> I know I am GMT-6.
[05:31] <xq> Well, I just skimmed and saw the date of March 6th then 9PM EST
[05:31] <xq> instead of using a time zone converter as I usually do
[05:31] <xq> But anyway, yeah same here for GMT
[05:32] <xq> And tomorrow it falls back at 2 AM EST ;) (well, across the U.S. it falls back one hour)
[05:32] <xq> Or wait, "spring" forward.
[05:33] <wolter> What falls back, sorry?
[05:34] <xq> Time in the U.S.
[05:34] <xq> This weekend
[05:34] <xq> But it's spring forward/set ahead one hour
[05:34] <xq> We gain an hour...
[05:36] <wolter> Oh...
[05:36] <wolter> Why are you applying for membership, mainly?
[05:39] <xq> Well, I've been a Linux user since around '94. Started with Slackware, shortly migrated to Debian. Then Ubuntu forever ago. Stated a LoCo a while back (2 years ago?), and would like to get it approved this year.
[05:40] <xq> I feel like I should be a "member" at least to have an active team. I'm also active in the community andstay active, so feel like I've reached that point.
[05:40] <xq> Kind of sums it up.
[05:40] <xq> I'm involved in a lot of open source things and love to help people. Love to give back to the community. This is just another way.
[05:40] <wolter> Well yeah, but what benefits are you looking forward to?
[05:40] <wolter> Or is it just being a member, by itself.
[05:40] <wolter> ?
[05:41] <xq> Just being a member, I guess, in and of itself.
[05:41] <xq> I guess having a say in the community council and elections is a perk.
[05:43] <xq> It also sets a good example within your own community (loCo, for me).
[05:44] <wolter> Oh.
[05:44] <wolter> Yeah.
[05:44] <wolter> Yeah, being a member of ubuntu would be representative of how much you've put into the community.
[05:44] <wolter> But I want the most my @ubuntu email.
[05:47] <xq> I see everything that comes with the approval as "perks," I guess. I don't really need them. They're good to have/nice to have, but I have other motiviations (like setting the example for member), or perhaps even just printing a business card with the Ubuntu logo for team purposes.
[05:47] <xq> I'm into marketing, so maybe it's just how I think. I don't know hehe.
[05:47] <xq> Never crossed my mind.
[05:47] <xq> @ubuntu.com would be nice for official reasons :)
[05:47] <wolter> Yeah...
[05:48] <wolter> I think it should be handed to non members as well...
[05:48] <wolter> maybe make a special one, like ubuntu-member
[05:48] <wolter> For only members.
[05:51] <wolter> The nice thing is that it is only an email forwarder.
[05:51] <wolter> So its no big deal for ubuntu. They don't have to handle big storage.
[05:59] <xq> yeppers
[05:59] <xq> well, off to bed i go
[05:59] <xq> good talking with you. have a good night :)
[06:13] <wolter> u2
[13:42] <Guest24605> ciao a tutti
[13:43] <Guest24605> !lista
[18:51] <avraam> hey!
[18:51] <avraam> anybody is here? ^)


 You don't have the backports PPA added then
[02:36] <user|76> the Feature Tour in kubuntu.org doesnt work
 VEQE
[08:35]  * enyc ROARs
[08:35] <enyc> some sort of relay ?
[10:57] <sheytan> Hey! What do i need to use finger print with 5.24 plasma? Kubuntu 21.10
 Linux should really be systemD-free!
[13:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[16:39] <Maik> sheytan_: did you google it?
[16:40] <sheytan_> Maik sure. I've installed libfingerprint and it works for adding fingers but does not unlock the screen


[00:17] <KGB-0> rhythmbox ubuntu/master 3770658 Jeremy Bicha debian/ changelog control control.in * Drop Build-Depends on gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 * https://deb.li/3qTtc
[00:42] <bandali> lissyx, even that didn't help either. starting to suspect this might be a red herring
[00:42] <bandali> lissyx, how do you prefer i proceed? should i push the commit to beta to at least unblock the builds for now? or..?
[05:39] <lissyx> bandali, pushing with a broken test is not going to be super useful ...
[05:41] <lissyx> bandali, you have not updated D140803 ? the version I download is still based on dec 12 :(
[05:42] <lissyx> bandali, and it does not rebase properly
[05:50] <lissyx> I tried something not sure if it's the correct one but I'll see if I can run it locally
[08:16] <lissyx> bandali, https://treeherder.mozilla.org/jobs?repo=try&revision=11ef8062a0cc3811d25d82e63b600fd6cf142dce&selectedTaskRun=Z2lQWv8qRNOFY6FjKelS4A.0
[08:17] <lissyx> bandali, so fixing the ChromeUtils.import() with ChromeUtils.importESModule() seems OK ?
[13:00] <bandali> bandali, sorry, didn't realize you wanted me to push to phab right away, i thought you meant i should do that eventually
[13:01] <bandali> lissyx, what diff does that treeherder try link correspond to? https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/11ef8062a0cc3811d25d82e63b600fd6cf142dce doesn't seem very illuminating ?
[13:01] <bandali> err, pinged myself in the first message lol. clearly haven't woken up yet
[13:02] <bandali> lissyx, so, are you confirming that replacing the one occurrence of ChromeUtils.import() with ChromeUtils.importESModule() looks good to you and everything passes?
[13:09] <bandali> lissyx, ah it was the other commit. so does that one correspond to my commit to firefox-snap.git's nightly branch for refreshing the patch + change to importESModule as you mentioned?
[13:17] <lissyx> i dont know
[13:17] <lissyx> see my patch
[13:17] <lissyx> https://hg.mozilla.org/try/rev/ce14270d1e49fe6e52e0fa25140d1b8199fb935f
[13:36] <lissyx> bandali, as I said I had to take the phab one, and rebase all the way to now
[13:47] <bandali> lissyx, ok thanks. i might've found the culprit. i'll test to make sure
[13:47] <bandali> fwiw, it seems the patch we carry in firefox-snap.git vs the one in phab have diverged a bit. but perhaps it won't be too hard to consolidate them in the nearish future
[13:51] <lissyx> whatever diverged you need to make the one on phab match
[13:56] <bandali> yeah
[13:58] <bandali> hm actually i think the phab one might have some more things than the git one. for example, in toolkit/components/extensions/NativeMessagingPortal.h in phab it has an OnGetManifestDone function that our git one doesn't have
[13:59] <bandali> or like there's some docs in the phab that we don't have. so i think the phab one is mostly more 'forward' than our git one, but yeah
[14:03] <lissyx> building the snap using --destructive-mode (I dont want to depend on lxd/multipass), I get a weird message about missing libpulse?
[14:03] <lissyx> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer?job_id=418573239&repo=try&lineNumber=21131
[14:03] <lissyx> bandali, probably because olivier used his patch as soon as possible and in parallel kept updating the phab one?
[15:29] <bandali> lissyx, re patch and olivier: yeah, probably so.
[15:29] <bandali> lissyx, re building the snap in destructive mode, i've never tried building firefox that way myself. perhaps you're missing some of the dependencies? is libpulse-dev installed?
[15:30] <lissyx> shouldn't snapcraft deal with this?
[15:30] <lissyx> or destructive mode alleviate?
[16:14] <bandali> i'd think so? maybe try adding it to snapcraft.yaml manually?
[16:18] <lissyx> i've added to the docker image and it worked in the end
[16:30] <lissyx> bandali, cf https://treeherder.mozilla.org/jobs?repo=try&revision=b0b434cdf456239ca0112bb5f2e1ca86df56ba9e&selectedTaskRun=FC7Gg_C5TvyunER8merF1w.0
[16:39] <bandali> cool cool
[16:39] <bandali> for some reason mach bootstrap doesn't seem to install python dbusmock in its virtualenv, so i'm having trouble running the tests locally
[16:40] <bandali> i'll need to step out to leave shortly, but i hope i'll be able to come back online later tonight to investigate more
[16:41] <bandali> err, i didn't mean mach bootstrap specifically, but rather the build system in general
[16:42] <bandali> i hope i'll be able to get the tests to finally properly run, but if not, i might push what i have to nightly and probably beta as well anyway
[16:44] <lissyx> it's likely taken care in the ci setup itself?
[16:45] <lissyx> weird build error on beta-core22 branch https://treeherder.mozilla.org/logviewer?job_id=418600887&repo=try&lineNumber=128
[16:45] <lissyx> but I'm out for today


[05:23] <greg-g> https://cybre.space/@vi/100142961366826694
[11:02] <waldo323> good morning
[11:16] <Scary_Guy> mornin'
[13:26] <jrwren> TIL this exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Arcade_Adventures:_On_the_Rain-Slick_Precipice_of_Darkness
[13:26] <jrwren> Good morning #ubuntu-us-mi
[13:54] <flipsidecreation> Good morning, has everyone moved to GitLab yet?
[13:56] <jrwren> working on it.
[13:56] <jrwren> arguing hte evils of MSFT in ##csharp, cuz I"m insane and I am reading even more about Eric Lundgren
[13:56] <jrwren> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaoJErxYLtM  so many points here that I didn't even think of.
[13:56] <jrwren> It has made me EVEN MORE ANGRY about the Eric Lundgren case.
[13:57] <jrwren> #freelundgren
[13:58] <jrwren> "microsoft is abusing the power of the government to put people in jail for the sole reason that they made products easier to service." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaoJErxYLtM
[14:02] <flipsidecreation> yup, one side of the company is embracing open source while the other is still M$ as usual
[14:08] <jrwren> wait... they are making Nat the CEO of GH?  wow! good for him!
[14:09] <jrwren> sometimes I regret not taking the job when Nat called me up and tried to recruit me :(
[14:15] <flipsidecreation> Yeah
[14:17] <flipsidecreation> My dad regrets not taking the job at a pizza place his friends was opening in 1973 and went to work for GM instead.
[14:17] <flipsidecreation> My dad didn't think anyone would buy pizza from a place called Hungry Howie's Pizza
[14:17] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:19] <flipsidecreation> Morning cmaloney is all your code moved away from GitHub before the terms and conditions change? :)
[14:19] <cmaloney> Not really. They can have it
[14:19] <cmaloney> If they can get piddlepodder to work better more power to them
[14:25] <brousch> flipsidecreation: I still won't buy from Hungry Howie's. The pizza is nasty.
[14:27] <flipsidecreation> They are ok, not great but ok
[14:27] <jrwren> oh, then I won't try it. Its the only thing near me that I've never had.
[14:54] <cmaloney> They're work a try. I'm not sure how their pizza is now, but they were the first to do the flavored crust schtick
[14:54] <cmaloney> that I'm aware of
[15:07] <_stink_> we get hungry howie's all the time
[15:07] <_stink_> but uh it's not fancy
[15:07] <flipsidecreation> nope, it's edible
[15:07] <_stink_> it's little caesars + 1
[15:08] <flipsidecreation> that is accurate
[15:23] <jrwren> TY for this evaluation. I shall continue to pass and if I want flavored crust, I will add it to Jets that I get :)
[15:27] <brousch> Jets is much better
[16:05] <cmaloney> Jets is decent
[16:20] <greg-g> ah yeah, Jet's is who I had in Chelsea
[16:49] <cmaloney> Sadly Jet's Pizza doesn't go that far AFAICT
[18:41] <Scary_Guy> now that it's confirmed I'm updating all my repos and then deleting my account.  Never really did use it anyway other than to clone stuff so it's super easy for me.  Saw a tutorial though for those of you moving to GitLab on youtube
[18:46] <Scary_Guy> Little Ceaser's < Hungry Howie
[18:46] <Scary_Guy> s < Jets
[18:47] <Scary_Guy> Jets is on par with Domino's and Pizza Hut
[18:47] <Scary_Guy> Then you get Green Lantern, and Pizza House which is my current favorite over in Ann Arbor
[18:48] <cmaloney> Dominos is akin to taking the box and putting the pizza toppings on it
[18:48] <cmaloney> that's how they are so affordable
[18:48] <jrwren> Pizza House is DAMN GOOD
[18:48] <jrwren> its $$$ though. Definitely a rare treat compared to others.
[18:49] <cmaloney> Ann Arbor thing?
[18:49] <jrwren> cmaloney: dominos can be good, but you have to know how to order it.
[18:49] <jrwren> Pizza House is in Ann Arbor and Lansing.
[18:49] <cmaloney> jrwren: Right.
[18:49] <cmaloney> If you're ordering Dominos here's a simple checklist
[18:49] <cmaloney> 1) Don't
[18:49] <jrwren> no no no.
[18:49] <cmaloney> 2) Throw out that number and order literally anything else.
[18:50] <jrwren> my guide to ordering dominos: 1> 12" (medium) pan. 2> heavy sauce (its free)
[18:50] <jrwren> that is it.
[18:52] <Scary_Guy> to be fair, I haven't had Domino's in a very long time.  I just remember it was edible
[18:52] <cmaloney> That's fait praise
[18:52] <cmaloney> faint
[18:52] <Scary_Guy> I wasn't really praising it
[18:53] <Scary_Guy> if anything I just like the delivery car
[18:53] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTP5UtOYOds
[18:54] <jrwren> a couple yrs ago Dominos redid everything.
[18:54] <jrwren> It could be that because I live in AA where dominos is HQ that it is better here.
[18:55] <jrwren> in fact, my lcoal dominos is the closest branch location to the HQ.
[18:55] <jrwren> so maybe I just get the good qwuality while everyone else suffers.
[18:55] <jrwren> and when I don't get the pan with heavy sauce, I'm always disappointed, but the pan with heavy sauce makes for a great foundation.
[18:56] <Scary_Guy> If you're in A2 you should get PH because PH < every goddamn thing except for that one inn I went to up in Eagle Harbor in the U.P. and that might just be on par
[18:57] <jrwren> eh, I would, but PH is liek 4X the price.
[18:57] <Scary_Guy> yeah, for a reason
[18:57] <jrwren> usually I want 2 pizza for $12-14, not $30.
[18:58] <Scary_Guy> I'd take out a loan from a guy named Fat Tony to get that pizza
[18:58] <jrwren> lol
[18:58] <jrwren> dammit, now i'm realizing its been at least a year since I've had PH.
[18:58] <jrwren> I may have to get some soon.
[18:58] <Scary_Guy> and he'd understand why because he'd be fat from eating all the Pizza House pizza
[18:58] <_stink_> i eat cheap pizza all the time
[18:58] <jrwren> they other thing cool about PH is they deliver until 4am or something crazy like that.
[18:59] <_stink_> little caesars
[18:59] <_stink_> you snobs :P
[18:59] <Scary_Guy> Necto is tonight, I may end up there before hand
[19:00] <Scary_Guy> Oh I forgot Happy's Pizza too, which exists below dog food
[19:01] <jrwren> when I think happy's I want the cheap ribs :p
[19:09] <greg-g> _stink_++
[19:12] <jrwren> rick_h_: oh damn! gopkg.in/mgo.v2 is deprecated and unsupported? is juju and charmstore moving to a diff library? is that rough?
[19:19] <cmaloney> Where are you seeing that it is unsuported / deprecated?
[19:23] <jrwren> follow through to the github repo
[19:30] <waldo323> is there a central gitlab server or is it mostly host your own?
[19:32] <waldo323> wow, old place of work is prominent on the gitlab page - too bad my group wasn't using it
[19:32] <greg-g> gitlab.com
[19:33] <greg-g> it's open core, so a ton of people just use the main offering
[19:33] <greg-g> but gnome and debian are notable in that they run their own instances
[19:33] <jrwren> as long as Nat is CEO of github, I'll continue to trust them.
[19:33] <jrwren> hell, I trust them even more now.
[19:35] <greg-g> heh
[19:35] <greg-g> so, does "startup" now just mean "any company that is actively looking to be bought out for the right price"?
[19:35] <cmaloney> My biggest concern is they're going to try to make money on github
[19:35] <jrwren> yes
[19:35] <cmaloney> and as someone who worked for Sourceforge that is a rather dubious path
[19:36] <jrwren> cmaloney: GH already makey money. 200M+ in revenue
[19:36] <cmaloney> And they owe how much to VCs?
[19:36] <jrwren> they have sold GH enterprise for many years now.
[19:36] <greg-g> to MS :)
[19:36] <cmaloney> They might be profitable, but I think they took on a lot of debt to get there
[19:37] <cmaloney> hence the MS acquisition
[19:41] <waldo323> hopefully it will improve git (and version control in general) adoption throughout many industries where it was lacking before
[19:41] <waldo323> imporantdoc_latest.doc
[19:41] <waldo323> imporantdoc_new_latest.doc
[19:42] <waldo323> imporantdoc_newer_latest.doc
[19:42] <waldo323> gets old fast
[19:43] <greg-g> the only solution to that problem (shittily versioned text docs that Communications etc people create) is google docs
[19:43] <greg-g> sadly
[19:43] <greg-g> I should add "... that I found"
[19:45] <waldo323> that is a good solution.  office could come with git and have settings to allow for saving + committing, pushing etc
[20:55] <jrwren> my query aggregates and windowing function knowledge isn't good enough.
[20:55] <jrwren> I have a table that has user_pk and creation_time of referals that a sales person has referred customers to. I'm trying to find the right aggregates and window functions to group them so that the query results are ordered by the first, second, third, etc sales person to refer some count N during a threashold of time, creation time between start/end.
[20:59] <rick_h_> jrwren: well mongo is finally putting together an official go client
[20:59] <rick_h_> jrwren: so one day I expect us to move to that, but it's still alpha
[20:59] <rick_h_> jrwren: so not sure
[21:51] <cmaloney> Seems a little premature to deprecate the old library if the official one isn't ready
[21:51] <cmaloney> I mean, this isn't JavaScript


[01:02] <allee> yofel: libkscreen depends on qjson >= 0.8.0.  That's why it fails on qantal.  r copied from kubuntu/ppa to experimental and the quantal build restarted
[01:03] <allee> s/ r / r needs to be /
[01:03] <kubotu> allee meant: "yofel: libkscreen depends on qjson >= 0.8.0.  That's why it fails on qantal.  r needs to be copied from kubuntu/ppa to experimental and the quantal build restarted"
[01:04] <yofel> done
[01:17] <allee> thx
[05:02] <ronnoc_> anyone else run into an issue with a recent update in Raring that gives a "AMD Unsupported Hardware" watermark after a recent update?
[05:15] <ronnoc_> I must not be alone: bug 1098561
[09:57] <Riddell> RC 3 tagging on thursday
[09:57]  * Riddell adds to diary
[12:23] <ScottK> Riddell: Alpha 2 is moved, so it should line up for 4.10.0 now.
[12:24] <Riddell> lovely, thanks ScottK
[12:28] <Riddell> ScottK: kio-mtp and libwlocate in New should you be in a New mood
[13:05] <Riddell> yay no kde packages on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:32] <Riddell> ScottK: I just noticed http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/raring/alpha-1/
[14:32] <Riddell> so uec also does alpha releases I guess
[14:32] <ScottK> Interesting.
[14:32] <ScottK> That was sort of not mentioned.
[14:54] <yofel> shadeslayer: re tomahawk, you should be able to just copy the PPA stuff with a clean changelog and maybe a fix here and there
[14:55] <shadeslayer> and copyright stuff
[14:55] <shadeslayer> your packaging has no proper copyright iirc
[14:55] <yofel> oh yeah, was too lazy for that
[14:55] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:39] <afiestas> are virtuoso pacakges build/link with -g ?
[15:39] <afiestas> shadeslayer:  ? :p
[15:39] <shadeslayer> you mean with debug symbols?
[15:40] <afiestas> shadeslayer: yes
[15:41] <shadeslayer> iirc no, but you could enable dbgsym to get some dbg packages I guess
[15:41] <shadeslayer> I see libvirtodbc0-dbgsym
[15:42] <shadeslayer> but that's only for ODBC libs I'm afraid
[15:43] <shadeslayer> I also remember being poked about this earlier, and asked around why we didn't build with dbg symbols, but I can't recall the reason behind it
[15:43] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:44] <shadeslayer> afiestas: we do we do!
[15:44] <shadeslayer> "cd . &&   CFLAGS="-g -O2 -fstack-protector ...."
[15:45] <Riddell> shadeslayer: doesn't do much good if the symbols aren't extracted but
[15:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah
[15:45] <shadeslayer> I'm not completely sure how the dbgsym stuff works
[15:46] <afiestas> shadeslayer: from where do I get the symbols?
[15:46] <afiestas> or Riddell :p
[15:46] <shadeslayer> afiestas: There's no separate -dbg package I'm afraid
[15:47] <afiestas> okz
[15:47] <shadeslayer> huh
[15:47] <shadeslayer> afiestas: there should be a -dbgsym package though
[15:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/646616/
[15:47] <afiestas> shadeslayer: where?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> !dbgsym
[15:48] <afiestas> I hate when you send me to a wiki page
[15:48] <shadeslayer> afiestas: follow " If there is no -dbg package:"
[15:48] <afiestas> with bazilion lines of text
[15:49] <shadeslayer> I'm still trying to figure out where the -dbgsym package is
[15:49] <afiestas> shadeslayer: should I go ahead with the instructions?
[15:50] <apachelogger> mhhh
[15:50] <apachelogger> http://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticDebugPackages
[15:50] <shadeslayer> afiestas: won't do you any good .... I can't see a -dbgsym package for it
[15:50] <Riddell> there's no -dbgsym
[15:50] <afiestas> oks
[15:50] <afiestas> next time then
[15:50] <shadeslayer> k
[15:51] <shadeslayer> though that's the one package I'm aware of that intentionally has no -dbg package
[15:52] <shadeslayer> build id's looks really cool
[15:52] <apachelogger> I think I have seen ddebs somewhere on launchpad, so there is support for it I suppose
[15:53] <apachelogger> not sure if that has been widely discussed in ubuntu though
[15:53] <shadeslayer> yes, you have to enable them manually
[15:53] <apachelogger> why don't we do that? :P
[15:53] <shadeslayer> dunno
[15:57] <yofel> Space I guess
[15:58] <yofel> and it would mostly duplicate our debug symbols
[15:58] <shadeslayer> wtff
[15:58] <shadeslayer> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/v/virtuoso-opensource/
[15:58] <shadeslayer> that has the packages
[15:58] <shadeslayer> but apt says it knows nothing about them
[15:58] <yofel> shadeslayer: yeah, for libvirtodbc0
[15:58] <yofel> that's all
[15:59] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:59] <shadeslayer> apparently they got lost after 6.1.0 ?
[16:00] <yofel> shadeslayer: not really, that package is transitional
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Oh .. ok
[16:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: have a look at the build log though, seems to me a dbgsym packages should have been created
[16:05] <shadeslayer> s/a/the/
[16:05] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "yofel: htheve a look at the build log though, seems to me a dbgsym packages should have been created"
[16:05] <yofel> dh_strip -pvirtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
[16:05] <yofel> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: all non-arch-all packages for this build platform amd64: virtuoso-opensource-6.1 virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin libvirtodbc0 libvirtuoso5.5-cil
[16:05] <yofel> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: packages to act on: virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin
[16:05] <yofel> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: ignored packages:
[16:05] <yofel> virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin is already stripped, ignoring
[16:06] <shadeslayer> I think I'll shut up now
[16:07] <yofel> it ignores everything except libvirtodbc0
[16:10] <yofel> the buildsystem completely ignores -g
[16:11] <apachelogger> afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kamoso/+bug/1099154
[16:11] <yofel> hm, no
[16:12] <afiestas> apachelogger: terminal output perhaps?
[16:12] <apachelogger> please ask for it
[16:12] <apachelogger> :P
[16:12]  * apachelogger goes needs to get dinner while tomahawk builds hog his machine
[16:13] <apachelogger> language fail
[16:13] <apachelogger> anywho, afk
[16:13] <yofel> lol
[16:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: tomahawk getting packages at last?
[16:15] <Riddell> meh, I can't get the symbols file in libqaccessibilityclient to work on all arches, I'll just make it arch specific unless anyone wants to see what I'm missing
[16:20]  * yofel gives it a try
[16:21] <Riddell> yofel: I've got ec2s set up if it's useful
[16:21] <Riddell> I added --with kde which I'd forgot
[16:22] <Riddell> but it's still different on i386vs amd64
[16:23] <yofel> my server should be fast enough, doesn't look like it'll be a long build
[16:23] <Riddell> no it's not
[16:26] <yofel> looks to me like it's missing a few {size_t} substs
[16:26]  * yofel retries
[16:34] <yofel> Riddell: uploaded again, was missing a symbols file that was confirmed on both archs + --with pkgkde_symbolshelper it seems
[16:34] <yofel> hm, forgot to add --with kde. Does it need it?
[16:43] <Riddell> hmm I thought --with kde included pkgkde_symbolshelper
[16:44] <Riddell> I guess not, neurons still reconnecting
[16:44] <Riddell> thanks yofel!
[16:44] <yofel> yep, built now
[16:45] <yofel> shadeslayer: adding --with-debug to virtuoso results in:
[16:45] <yofel> ../libvirtodbc0-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb
[16:45] <yofel> ../virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb
[16:45] <yofel> ../virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb
[16:45] <yofel>  ../virtuoso-opensource-6.1-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb
[16:45] <yofel> so maybe that wouldn't be a bad idea
[16:45]  * Riddell awards yofel elite packager of the day award
[16:45] <yofel> thanks :P
[16:46] <mikhas> Quintasan_, http://lists.maliit.org/pipermail/maliit-announce-maliit.org/2013-January/000022.html
[16:47] <Riddell> ooh nice mikhas
[16:48] <yofel> \o/
[17:00] <Riddell> ScottK: do I want to use libboost1.49-dev or libboost1.50-dev?
[17:00] <ScottK> Riddell: 49
[17:00]  * ScottK double checks
[17:01] <Riddell> but but it's 0.01 old!
[17:01] <mikhas> Riddell, that release took much longer than expected … the road to Maliit 1.0 remains difficult.
[17:02] <Riddell> Quintasan_: are you able to package that or will you need someone else to do it?
[17:11] <yofel> Riddell: libboost-dev poins to 1.49. Unless that changes you'll get conflicts with 1.50 *somewhere*
[17:11]  * yofel adds a missing t
[17:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: sure, but why isn't it there to begin with?
[17:12] <xnox> default is 1.49, you can use 1.50 if you need to. but we decided not to do boost1.50 transition ahead/without debian in raring.
[17:12] <yofel> dunno, whoever packaged it didn't think he would have to manually enable debugging symbols?
[17:13] <yofel> and since there's no -dbg package it probably wasn't checked either
[17:15] <shadeslayer> mmm
[17:15] <shadeslayer> yofel: let's enable it then
[17:15] <shadeslayer> I don't see anything in debian that says they had it and removed it on purpose
[17:17] <ScottK> Yeah.  1.49.
[17:17] <yofel> me neither, changelog doesn't mention debuggin symbols at all
[17:18] <yofel> shadeslayer: I'll upload with symbols then, easy to revert if it does something weird
[17:18] <shadeslayer> righto
[17:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: and symbols?
[17:18] <yofel> er
[17:18] <yofel> debug
[17:18] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:18] <shadeslayer> and do you plan on doing a separate -dbg package
[17:18] <shadeslayer> or just let dbgsym do the job
[17:19] <yofel> I think we can live with dbgsym's for now
[17:19] <shadeslayer> cool :_)
[17:21] <shadeslayer> lololol
[17:21] <shadeslayer> Unrecognized character \x10 at /home/buildd/.sbuildrc line 1.
[17:22] <yofel> o.O
[18:55] <yofel> Riddell: could you please upload knavalbattle ubuntu3? It's not in the packageset yet
[19:00] <Riddell> let me see
[19:02] <Riddell> mm, well spotted
[19:02] <yofel> more like apt told me :P
[20:13] <ScottK> Anyone know of a reason not to release 4.9.4 to quantal-updates?
[20:17] <shadeslayer> not really
[20:18]  * shadeslayer checks if transmission was approved
[20:19] <shadeslayer> nope, still there
[20:19] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ^
[20:28] <ScottK> OK.
[20:29] <ScottK> Not right now, but maybe in a bit.
[20:29] <shadeslayer> sure
[20:29] <shadeslayer> not a big issue :0
[20:29] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:30] <yofel> I don't know of any regressions in 4.9.4 other than the ones we fixed...
[22:09] <shadeslayer> afiestas: btw dbg symbols now available for virtuoso, you'll need to enable the dbgsym repos
[22:11] <jessie_> Has anyone packaged the new color management stuff?
[22:12] <shadeslayer> colord?
[22:13] <snele_> shadeslayer: thank you for backporting 4.10 rc2 to precise. do you plan to backport 4.10.x series (or atleast last 4.10.5 bugfix release)?
[22:13] <shadeslayer> yep
[22:13] <afiestas> shadeslayer: thanks !
[22:13] <shadeslayer> afiestas: <3
[22:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yofel https://dev.launchpad.net/CommunityARMBuilds
[22:42] <yofel> Your build takes 4hrs or less to build - I think kdelibs already violates that
[22:42] <yofel> unless you need to meed only one of those
[22:42] <yofel> *meet
[22:42] <shadeslayer> well ... I was thinking more along the lines of Plasma Active
[22:43] <shadeslayer> because we can get PA builds up quickly
[22:43] <shadeslayer> for Nexus 7 testing and what not
[22:43] <yofel> yeah, as long as kdelibs is fine with less than 10 builds a week, wohooo \o/
[22:43] <shadeslayer> if we have to upload kde4libs then we should just test build on the ARM farm and upload to the archive
[22:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: apparently they just virtualize armhf ontop of i386 now :D
[23:00] <yofel> I'll be happy if they tell me how they do that
[23:00] <shadeslayer> haha
[23:00] <shadeslayer> #launchpad has some info
[23:00] <shadeslayer> was just discussing it with them :)
[23:02] <yofel> if that's the same setup that the armhf pbuilder guide uses, then I'll be interested to see how kdelibs does there
[23:02] <yofel> I never got it to build in qemu-user-static
[23:03] <shadeslayer> dunno
[23:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-linaro/+bug/1077116 was what I got
[23:05] <yofel> haven't tried it on i386...
[23:06] <shadeslayer> you ran automoc on the Nexus 7 @_@
[23:06] <yofel> yeah?
[23:07] <yofel> it's not different from any other armhf hardware once you have ubuntu on it
[23:07] <yofel> the CPU is even reasonably fas
[23:07] <yofel> t


[04:55] <gubluntu> how do i get tcpdump to produce less output
[04:55] <gubluntu> like hiding duplicates
[04:55] <gubluntu> or rather... whats the best way to watch incoming and outgoing connections
[04:57] <[miles] > gubluntu, thats not really a ubuntu-server specific question is it?
[04:57] <[miles] > and I recommend you man tcpdump
[04:58] <gubluntu> i have
[04:59] <gubluntu> figured i might ask someones opinion for what they use
[04:59] <gubluntu> is that not an appropriate question?
[05:00] <gubluntu> i.e. iptraf, snort etc..
[05:00] <[miles] > ok well if you've hit the manual..
[05:00] <[miles] > when you say less output
[05:00] <[miles] > what exactly do you want to filter out?
[05:01] <[miles] > also, have you created a specific filter etc yet... look also at WireShark if you have'nt yet
[05:08] <gubluntu> does wireshark have console only?
[05:08] <gubluntu> ive seen it for windows with a gui...
[05:08] <gubluntu> ooh! manpages
[05:08] <gubluntu> tcpdump 'tcp[tcpflags]  & (tcp-syn|tcp-fin) != 0 and not src and dst net localnet'
[05:08] <gubluntu> sry..
[05:08] <[miles] > lol
[05:09] <[miles] > you can load your tcpdump file into WireShark
[05:09] <[miles] > the GUI (And it's not just windows either)
[05:09] <gubluntu> nonono gui!
[05:09] <gubluntu> :-P
[05:09] <gubluntu> brb
[05:09] <[miles] > it was previously known as Ethereal
[05:09] <[miles] > and it's a shit hot product
[05:18] <mralphabet> shit hot? . . . is that good or bad
[05:24] <[miles] > thats good
[05:24] <[miles] > like, doggies bollocks
[05:25] <mralphabet> are you british?
[05:25] <mralphabet> scottish?
[05:26] <[miles] > no, soy espaol
[05:26] <[miles] > nah, I'm British, but lived in spain for years
[05:39] <gubluntu> merda claiente?
[05:39] <gubluntu> caliente (sp?)
[05:39] <[miles] > mierda
[05:39] <[miles] > not merda
[05:40] <gubluntu> ah.
[05:40] <[miles] > gubluntu, which country are you from?
[05:41] <gubluntu> us
[05:41] <gubluntu> in nyc
[05:41] <[miles] > ah ok
[05:41] <[miles] > a doddle dandy eh
[05:41] <[miles] > ;)
[05:41] <gubluntu> lol
[05:41] <[miles] > joder
[05:41] <[miles] > it's a complete shite writing LDAP schema's
[05:42] <[miles] > I'll be glad when I eventually get it finished :-|
[05:42] <gubluntu> what do i use for localnet?
[05:42] <gubluntu> in tcpdump 'tcp[tcpflags]  & (tcp-syn|tcp-fin) != 0 and not src and dst net localnet'
[05:42] <[miles] > having to order a OID from IANA
[05:42] <[miles] > localnet?
[05:42] <[miles] > you mean localhost?
[05:43] <gubluntu> man pages say: tcpdump 'tcp[tcpflags]  & (tcp-syn|tcp-fin) != 0 and not src and dst net _localnet_'
[05:43] <mralphabet> local net as in local subnet
[05:43] <mralphabet> perhaps
[05:43] <gubluntu> how do i calc local subnet?
[05:43] <[miles] > ah ok
[05:43] <[miles] > from your IP and mask
[05:43] <coNP> I guess Ubuntu default install creates an entry in /etc/networks
[05:43] <coNP> as localnet
[05:43] <[miles] > whats your IP and network mask
[05:43] <[miles] > ifconfig
[05:43] <[miles] > then you can work out the CID
[05:44] <[miles] > like <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[05:45] <gubluntu> http://www.subnetonline.com/subcalc/subnet1.html
[05:45] <gubluntu> destination address?
[05:46] <[miles] > sorry?
[05:46] <gubluntu> im trying to use the subnet calculator
[05:46] <gubluntu> but its asking for destination address
[05:46] <[miles] > bah
[05:46] <[miles] > why?
[05:46] <[miles] > just work it out
[05:46] <[miles] > you know binary?
[05:46] <gubluntu> goodpoint
[05:47] <[miles] > like the /24 means <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:47] <[miles] > aka
[05:47] <gubluntu> mask here is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:47] <[miles] > 11111111 11111111 11111111 00000000
[05:47] <[miles] > 24 bits set
[05:48] <[miles] > from left to right
[05:48] <[miles] > it's easy peasy
[05:48] <[miles] > lemon squeezy
[05:49] <gubluntu> so if my ip was <IP_ADDRESS> with a mask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:49] <gubluntu> my subnet is <IP_ADDRESS>/24?
[05:51] <[miles] > no
[05:51] <[miles] > I just explained it to you
[05:51] <[miles] > look:
[05:51] <[miles] > like the /24 means <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:51] <[miles] > so
[05:52] <[miles] > <IP_ADDRESS>/24 has a netmask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:52] <[miles] > thats CIDR format
[05:52] <[miles] > <IP_ADDRESS>/25 = <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:52] <[miles] > netmask
[05:53] <[miles] > 11111111 11111111 11111111 00000000 = <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:53] <[miles] > 11111111 11111111 11111111 10000000 = <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:53] <gubluntu> ah
[05:53] <gubluntu> <IP_ADDRESS> = 27  11111111.11111111.11111111.111 00000
[05:53] <[miles] > 11111111 11111111 11111111 11000000 = <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:54] <[miles] > the /nn = number of bits set to 1 from left to right
[05:54] <[miles] > so /32 = 11111111 11111111 11111111 11111111
[05:54] <[miles] > aka, every bit
[05:55] <[miles] > and /1 = 10000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
[05:55] <[miles] > now you understand?
[05:55] <gubluntu> yup
[05:55] <gubluntu> thank you
[05:55] <gubluntu> <IP_ADDRESS>/27 did it right
[05:56] <[miles] > you tell me :P
[05:56] <[miles] > right, I'm bored of binary now
[05:56] <[miles] > time to fuck off home
[05:56] <[miles] > ciao tio
[05:56] <[miles] > good luck!
[06:50] <gubluntu> anyone have an idea for the hardware specs for a ubuntu mail server running Postfix/Courier/MySQL/Amavisd-new/SpamAssassin/ClamAV/SASL/TLS/Horde for about 25-30 users
[06:50] <gubluntu> like min proc speed ram etc...
[06:52] <coNP> gubluntu: what availabiltiy is needed?
[06:52] <coNP> :)
[06:52] <gubluntu> how so?
[06:53] <coNP> I think 25-30 users are not very much, so you can use an "ordinary desktop machine" to provide these services.
[06:53] <gubluntu> yea?
[06:53] <gubluntu> like a 2.8 dual core pent D with 2gb ram and crap load of space?
[06:53] <coNP> how many emails / user (a day, or an hour)?
[06:54] <gubluntu> hrmmm
[06:54] <gubluntu> 100 emails an hour?
[06:55] <gubluntu> including a lot of spam which i hope to reduce drastically being that i have NO spam protection right now on ym netbsd sun board running eixm
[06:55] <mralphabet> uhhh . . . a 486 would work
[06:55] <coNP> okay, I guess spam filtering is the most processor intensitve
[06:55] <coNP> I guess a PII-PIII is okay
[06:55] <coNP> but sure, a 486 should also do it
[06:55] <mralphabet> anything built in the last 5 years would be fabulous
[06:55] <coNP> sure
[06:56] <gubluntu> is it safe to put webamil (horde) on the same server?
[06:57] <coNP> I think yes
[06:59] <gubluntu> what do you guys use for mailservers?
[06:59] <gubluntu> ubuntu?
[07:00] <mralphabet> gmail
[07:00] <mralphabet> ;)
[07:00] <gubluntu> lol
[07:00] <mralphabet> gmail for domains!
[07:00] <coNP> ubuntu
[07:00] <coNP> exim4
[07:00] <coNP> dovecot
[07:00] <coNP> there are some answers :)
[07:01] <coNP> these are my choices by now
[07:01] <gubluntu> exim is where it at isnt it
[07:01] <gubluntu> very configurable
[07:01] <coNP> sorry, gubluntu ?
[07:01] <gubluntu> but too much for me to learn right now i think
[07:04] <gubluntu> what server dist should i use?
[07:04] <gubluntu> version rather?
[07:05] <coNP> gubluntu: depends on... :)
[07:05] <gubluntu> ...
[07:06] <gubluntu> out of all the ppl around me.. im gonna go ahead with the opinion of the person sitting in the ubuntu-server channel
[07:06] <gubluntu> what r my choices?
[07:06] <coNP> dapper
[07:06] <coNP> edgy
[07:07] <gubluntu> dapper or edgy
[07:07] <coNP> I guess, if Ubuntu
[07:07] <coNP> I would say Dapper for now
[07:07] <gubluntu> so dapper has longer support?
[07:07] <gubluntu> is that the deal?
[07:07] <coNP> that is
[07:30] <gubluntu> exit


[06:18] <opatel99> Has there been any progress on porting UTouch to the Nexus 6P?
[06:18] <aunali1> greetings
[06:18] <opatel99> aunali1: Welcome
[06:55] <aunali1> exit
[21:13] <android429> should I make a backup even if i dont want to come back to previous android version or dont want my apps or data?
[21:13] <android429> while in custom recovery before flashing custom rom
[21:21] <android429> should I make a backup even if i dont want to come back to previous android version or dont want my apps or data?
[22:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[22:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> anyone about?
[22:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and any way to open up a tar gz file
[22:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> extract some images even get  them open
[22:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> using the tablet
[22:58] <Dorry> Hiya - Im on a Nexus 4 and Im trying to install updates to Ubuntu Touch (it says Version 31). But when I try the download bar fades and disappears. Have I updated correctly ?
[23:04] <Dorry> & how do I get onto the tesing image from the terminal ?
[23:04] <Dorry> *testing
[23:29] <Dorry> no-one around .


[07:38] <TheMue> Morning
[07:40] <TheMue> Today is the worst day of my cold. So I'll work later a bit from the couch and with lots of peppermint tea.
[07:41] <TheMue> So cu later.
[10:44] <Aram> hello.
[14:08] <Aram> hmm, anyone seen frank?
[14:42] <fwereade> Aram, he's got a cold and may or may not be available at any given time
[18:20] <rogpeppe> two CLs to review, if anyone cares to:  https://codereview.appspot.com/6811095/ https://codereview.appspot.com/6819115
[18:42] <rogpeppe> i'm off for the evening, see y'all tomorrow


[08:10] <Hobbsee> how long does it usually take to get responses on trademark infringements?
[16:45] <jchase> Anyone have any good marketing materials for promoting their install fest / release parties for the Hardy Release?
[16:53] <beuno> jchase, you're better off asking in the mailing list
[16:54] <beuno> the channel has been very inactive for months now
[16:54] <jchase> ok, I've kind of noticed the inactivity, I thought I'd try to make it more active :)
[16:54] <jchase> but thanks, yeah, I will hit the list
[16:54] <beuno> :)


[13:05] <jelly> .w medulin
[13:05] <datase> Medulin,HR(lat,lon=44.8225,13.935) - Condition: Clear - clear sky. Temperature 28.3°C/83°F (28.3 to 29.5°C) Wind: 2km/h Humidity: 42% Pressure at sea level: 1016hPa Visibility: 10km


[00:25] <satellit_> dfarning: burning CD to do install...
[01:04] <satellit_> install to USB comes up on grub rescue..?
[17:45] <manusheel> kandarpk: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4222
[17:59] <kandarpk> alsroot: around ?
[18:02] <alsroot> kandarpk: yup
[18:05] <kandarpk> alsroot: I wished to know how could we generate hash of a file
[18:05] <kandarpk> that is stored in the journal
[18:06] <manusheel> alsroot: Kandarp is working on SL #2093.
[18:06] <manusheel> alsroot: Walter provided a pointer on this issue - to compare hash of the files.
[18:07] <alsroot> kandarpk: datastore launches md5sum command
[18:08] <kandarpk> alsroot: can we manually use it on some files ?
[18:09] <alsroot> kandarpk: why not, but since TA files should not be huge, you can use hashlib python library http://docs.python.org/library/hashlib.html to not exec shell process from TA
[18:10] <alsroot> kandarpk: if they could be big, then you can do the same as ds does, launch md5sum command (didn't try to find better method)
[18:11] <alsroot> s/didn't try/I didn't try/
[18:11] <kandarpk> alsroot: OK, thanks.
[18:11] <kandarpk> will try them
[18:14] <kandarpk> alsroot: how could we launch md5sum from inside sugar ?
[18:17] <alsroot> kandarpk: use subprocess module http://docs.python.org/library/subprocess.html
[18:19] <kandarpk> alsroot: and hashlib is accepting string to generate the hash, how could we provide file as input ?
[18:19] <alsroot> kandarpk: just read the whole file
[18:20] <kandarpk> alsroot: ok.
[18:20] <kandarpk> thanks.


[01:38] <Elleo> mariogrip: you could get the source of the exact package used in current images from the stable overlay ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+packages?batch=75&memo=300&start=300
[17:23] <hammer> hello, im trying to find a ubuntu touch image for my oneplus one anyone got a download link?
[17:27] <DanChapman> hammer: https://devices.ubports.com/#/bacon
[17:41] <hammer> DanChapman: that sends me in a loop i want to use multirom but it sends me back to the same page
[17:42] <hammer> with no download link
[17:45] <DanChapman> hammer: Oh not sure about multirom, sorry. Have you tried asking in #ubports ?
[17:46] <hammer> DanChapman: no i haven't
[21:09] <harvey_> is there  a HCL for tablets?  I would like to try it on a older iphone as well a older Amazon Tablet


[15:00] <pitti> o/
[15:00] <robru> \o
[15:00] <cyphermox> o/
[15:00] <infinity> \o/
[15:00] <barry> /o\
[15:01] <barry> #startmeeting
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 18 15:01:12 2016 UTC.  The chair is barry. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:01] <barry> #topic Lightning round
[15:01] <barry> [Lightning round]
[15:01] <barry> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson)
[15:02] <barry> pitti tdaitx barry robru xnox slangasek bdmurray chiluk sil2100 caribou infinity doko mwhudson cyphermox
[15:02] <cyphermox> zomg
[15:02] <cyphermox> ;_; I lost.
[15:02] <barry> or won, depending on how you look at it :)
[15:02] <caribou> o/
[15:02] <cyphermox> hehe
[15:02] <barry> pitti: you're up
[15:02] <pitti> win!
[15:02] <pitti> just a 3-day report due to holidays
[15:02] <pitti> autopkgtest:
[15:02] <pitti>  - post-holiday maintenance, salvaged lcy01 and cleaned up armhf workers
[15:03] <pitti> netplan:
[15:03] <pitti>  - Add initial CLI for "generate" and "apply" (improving "apply" right now)
[15:03] <pitti>  - Clean up obsolete generated config files (#1608223)
[15:03] <pitti>  - Disable disable NM's 10-globally-managed-devices.conf if global renderer is set to NM
[15:03] <chiluk> slangasek nothing of interest to you guys from me this week.
[15:03] <pitti>  - Dynamically enable systemd-networkd-wait-online (#1613548)
[15:03] <pitti>  - Make "netplan apply" reset existing configuration/addresses
[15:03] <cyphermox> netplan <3
[15:03] <pitti>  - Read files from /run/netplan/*.yaml, for one-shot tests
[15:03] <pitti>  - Some bug fixing
[15:03] <pitti> distro:
[15:03] <pitti>  - NetworkManager: Fix /run/NM/conf.d/ handling (#1614043)
[15:03] <pitti>  - apport: Adjust autopkgtest for new glibc
[15:03] <pitti>  - PostgreSQL: Prepare new upstream security/bug fix releases for all supported Ubuntu releases (#1614113)
[15:03] <pitti>  - systemd: Fix resolved resolvconf integration on ppc64el (#1609740)
[15:03] <pitti> the usual post-holiday email backlog (done) and bug triage (ongoing) fun
[15:03] <pitti> (END)
[15:03] <tdaitx> chiluk, steve is out today
[15:03] <tdaitx> = OpenJDK security update
[15:03] <tdaitx> - Provided OpenJDK 7 packages for Trusty and Precise to the security team; JamVM fix; disabled PCH on arm64/Trusty to avoid segfault (tks for the tip doko!)
[15:03] <tdaitx> - Retested LP: #913434 on OpenJDK 6/7/8; does not affect 6 and 8, affects 7 released earlier than 2.6.6 (thus fixed by 2.6.7 without the need to use the embedded LCMS);
[15:03] <tdaitx> - JamVM working on OpenJDK 8
[15:03] <tdaitx> - Discussing with the security team if the embedded LCMS (2.7) should be used on Precise (available LCMS is 2.2) and whether we should SRU LCMS 2.6 to Trusty
[15:03] <tdaitx> = Other
[15:03] <tdaitx> - Looked over a few openjdk errors in errors.u.c that have more reports than LP: #1609190; a few might be worth a deeper look and a fix, if reproducible
[15:03] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:04] <barry> ongoing work with ubuntu-image; several branches, merges, discussions
[15:04] <barry> pyparsing 2.1.7+dfsg1-1, 2.1.8+dfsg1-1
[15:04] <barry> --done--
[15:04] <robru> lp:bileto
[15:04] <robru> * added safety check to prevent it from assigning PPAs that have been created but not yet devirted
[15:04] <robru> * worked with steve and colin to add 20 more PPAs
[15:04] <robru> * work on new publish job is nearing completion, just needs more tests and testing, aiming for monday rollout
[15:04] <robru> (done)
[15:05] <barry> xnox: you're up
[15:05] <xnox> zua:
[15:05] <xnox> implement install command
[15:05] <xnox> implement postinst to notify user about expiry & ask for mirror URL (to be used in d-i)
[15:05] <xnox> started subordinate charm to provision instances
[15:05] <xnox> todo - rebase qemu/libvirt patches
[15:05] <xnox> boost/gcc:
[15:05] <xnox> working through fixing gcc6 ftbfs, to aid boost1.61 migration
[15:05]  * xnox hates c++14 a lot
[15:05] <xnox> s390x:
[15:05] <xnox> opencryptoki bugfixes
[15:05] <xnox> done
[15:05] <xnox> ..
[15:05] <barry> no slangasek today, so bdmurray
[15:06] <caribou> isn't he on an island somewhere ?
[15:06] <barry> ah right
[15:07] <barry> okay, chiluk already done, and no sil2100, so caribou you win!
[15:07] <caribou> \o/
[15:07] <caribou> back from vacation so email & backlog cleanup
[15:07] <caribou> & monday was a holiday
[15:07] <caribou> been hacking at LP: #1584485
[15:08] <caribou> and a sponsoring
[15:08] <caribou> (done)
[15:08] <infinity>  * Still working on getting glibc 2.24 (and binutils and Qt and half the archive) migrated
[15:08] <infinity>  * Prepped the next glibc upload for after the migration happens
[15:08] <infinity>  * Worked on a hacked-up kernel to make the above transitions go
[15:08] <infinity>  * Various merges, reviews, SRU work, and AA work
[15:08] <infinity>  * Working on scaling out the powerpc buildds a bit until we have scalingstack for them
[15:08] <infinity> (done)
[15:09] <barry> i think doko is not around, so mwhudson
[15:09] <cyphermox> mwhudson is probably not around either
[15:09] <cyphermox> I know he's been doing snapd and console-conf work, not sure what else
[15:09] <barry> cyphermox: right.  you're the caboose :)
[15:10] <cyphermox> eep
[15:10] <cyphermox> MIR:
[15:10] <cyphermox> - review indicator-transfer-buteo
[15:10] <cyphermox> yakkety:
[15:10] <cyphermox> - console-conf fixing error handling for network config
[15:10] <cyphermox> - console-conf network code
[15:10] <cyphermox> - grub-installer removal of grub legacy code paths
[15:10] <cyphermox> - more debugging UEFI PXE on IPv6 for grub2
[15:10] <cyphermox> - teaching shim about the ExtendedKeyUsage extension on certificates
[15:10] <cyphermox> - validate grub -> grub2 upgrade path  (that was for grub-installer)
[15:10] <sil2100> o/
[15:11] <cyphermox> the shim work should account for the scary patches that haven't been seen yet.
[15:11] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:11] <sil2100> (please skip me, I'll send out a summary once I get my graphical session working again)
[15:11] <barry> sil2100: hi!  we're at the end, so if you have status, go for it
[15:11] <sil2100> Sadly, I have no way of copy pasting, my gnome-session doesn't want to start
[15:12] <barry> sil2100: okay, no worries.  send to the mailing list?
[15:12] <sil2100> Suddenly dropped dead
[15:12] <barry> #topic AOB
[15:12] <sil2100> Yeah, will do, sorry about that, not sure what's going on
[15:12] <barry> [AOB]
[15:12] <barry> anybody have anything more to share?
[15:12] <cyphermox> shim openssl code is evil.
[15:12] <sil2100> I get a lot of nouveau FAULTS in dmesg, hm
[15:14] <barry> my debian unstable box is living up to its nickname
[15:15] <sil2100> brb, another reboot
[15:17] <barry> i think we're done here
[15:17] <barry> #endmeeting
[15:17] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 18 15:17:40 2016 UTC.
[15:17] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-08-18-15.01.moin.txt
[15:17] <pitti> thanks everyone
[15:17] <barry> thanks everyone
[15:18] <caribou> thanks barry!


[08:16] <dpm> good morning all
[08:22] <TLE> dpm: good morning
[08:22] <TLE> btw, did yo guys have a meeting yesterday? I missed it in my calendar
[08:29] <dpm> TLE, no worries. Yes, we did, I'll send the notes some time this morning
[08:30] <TLE> dpm: ok, I'll have a look at them


 im sorry , its not me
[01:26] <k1l> it was the other me?
[01:26] <bazhang> very convincing
[01:26] <bazhang> hahah
[02:37] <bazhang> ubuntu touch on an ipod touch
[02:37] <bazhang> must work, right?
[02:38] <phunyguy> lol
[02:38] <phunyguy> I don't always "lol", but when I do, I have no expression on my face.
[12:02] <Tm_T> aww
[12:28] <k1l_> done
[12:28] <bazhang> you beat the ops call
[12:29] <k1l_> "fast fingers k1l" :)
[12:29] <bazhang> bwhaha
[12:29] <Tm_T> oh boy that's getting tedious
[12:30] <k1l_> host-89-231-144-87.chelmno.mm.pl  is a polish ip but the whois links to leaseweb o_O
[12:32] <Myrtti> that's odd.
[12:32] <Myrtti> I descr:          Multimedia Polska S. A.
[12:32] <Myrtti> descr:          Cable DTV Internet Voice Provider
[12:32] <Myrtti> you must be doing a wrong query
[16:17] <phunyguy> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic ToCtHeYoUnGeR Being mean to others after being asked not to "pan-handle" for money/food in the channel.
[16:17] <phunyguy> :|
[16:17] <phunyguy> @login
[16:17] <phunyguy> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic ToCtHeYoUnGeR Being mean to others after being asked not to "pan-handle" for money/food in the channel.
[16:18] <rww> akiva-thinkpad's been talked to before about wandering into random channels, "announcing" ubuntuonair stuff and then leaving, right?
[16:18] <rww> because they did it an hour ago in -women, -offtopic, and -touch
[16:18] <Pici> yes
[16:19] <bazhang> for a few weeks at least
[16:19] <rww> Pici: can you put your IRCC hat on and tell him to cut it out plz
[16:19] <bazhang> and the answer is invariably "ok sorry"
[16:19] <k1l_> yes. i talked about that with him in pm after 2 kick/bans in #ubuntu (and other german channels etc). at least they are now not doing it in #u
[16:19] <rww> because otherwise I'm going to ban him from two of those channels, and he's not otherwise a problem afaik so I'd rather not
[16:19] <Pici> rww: I need to review the logs in here first about it.
[16:19] <rww> alrighty
[16:20] <Pici> need to check something
[16:22] <k1l_> he just doesnt care about other rules when it comes to him making announcements. i mean his intention is to push the on-air sessions, which is ok, but not with his methodes
[16:29] <Pici> Great when they call for ¡ops when you're already in the middle of the conversation...
[16:30] <bazhang> at least he's not /me facepalming
[16:30] <bazhang> and other such mockery
[16:53] <ikonia> rww: he had his ban removed on the condition that he stopped announcing it - he was going to raise it to the council that he thought he should be allowed to
[16:55] <rww> Pici: nah, it makes perfect sense. Every time cfhowlett finds an excuse to use a factoid, he gets a point.
[16:55] <rww> He is currently at the top of the #ubuntu scoreboard.
[16:56] <rww> ikonia: Alrighty. Since he's doing it in non-core channels too, and it's thus partly outside of IRC Team's jurisdiction but inside IRCC's, I'm leaving it to them.
[16:56] <rww> because I'd like a blanket "advertising is not acceptable on freenode, cut it out" statement from them
[16:57] <ikonia> rww: I'd also like that to be clear to him - as well as the rest of the world
[16:58] <ikonia> although I am dissapointed that he agreed to stop until he'd gotten the green light from the council, and clearly just ignored his word
[16:58] <k1l_> well, he didnt announce in #ubuntu this time, afaik
[16:58] <ikonia> no, but I made it clear the ubuntu name space
[16:58] <ikonia> or "all ubuntu channels"
[16:58] <k1l_> ok
[16:58] <ikonia> as they all cover the same rules
[16:59] <ikonia> (although some less than others I accept)
 how do i redownload windows back onto my laptop any one??
[17:29] <bazhang> apt-get install win10
[18:17] <Pici> hm.. did anyone else get a CTCP version from devweasel_?
[18:18] <k1l_> nope
[18:27] <bazhang> just iduck, and a love PM not ctcp
[18:28] <Pici> just curious
[18:28] <bazhang> "you are so and so' dog, diaf etc etc
[18:28] <Pici> bazhang: well, you're a popular fellow
[18:28] <bazhang> an icesword by any other name
[18:32] <bazhang> * liam__<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined
[18:32] <bazhang> bada bing bada boom