[00:04] <RG-NewGuy> installing mplayer on kubuntu help
[00:04] <RG-NewGuy> i don't have internet access for my machine with kubuntu
[00:05] <RG-NewGuy> i downloaded the source for mplayer
[00:05] <RG-NewGuy> but i goto install and it still doesn't work
[00:05] <RG-NewGuy> when installing mplayer should i start off as root?
[00:07] <Machtin> yep, guess so
[00:14] <RG-NewGuy> kinda silent tonight
[00:24] <zabbadapp> RG-NewGuy: mplayer need some devlibs and headers  to compile i think .. so you may need to download more stuff first. The compile works as regular user, the install needs root
[00:25] <zabbadapp> RG-NewGuy: you also need the package build-essential to even begin compiling stuff (avail in the repos).
[00:39] <draik> Hello all
[00:40] <stroud> What is the url for reporting bugs in kubuntu intrepid?
[00:41] <draik> Is anyone here experiencing an issue with Firefox. It won't "run". It delays for quite a bit and then when it loads, it halts. Doesn't do a thing.
[00:41] <dr_Willis> Not really.
[00:43] <stroud> Yes I've seen that problem with firefox3, though less frequently with the newest update
[00:44] <draik> stroud: latest update?
[00:45] <draik> Here is "apt-cache policy firefox":
[00:45] <draik> firefox:
[00:45] <draik>   Installed: 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:45] <draik>   Candidate: 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:45] <stroud> just a sec
[00:46] <stroud> firefox 3.0.1
[00:47] <stroud> draik: firefox 3.0.1
[00:47] <draik> That's what I have
[00:49] <stroud> draik: I've mostly noticed that it seems to freeze up for a bit at the end of loading a page
[00:50] <draik> I lags on loading and seems to freeze when about to finish loading a page (since google.com doesn't finish loading)
[00:50] <draik> *I lags = It lags
[00:53] <dr_Willis> !info fusesmb
[01:09] <draik> Does anyone here use Opera? I would like some user input on comparison with Firefox
[01:12] <dr_Willis> It works.. I have more extensions i perfer in firefox.
[01:15] <_a61_> ##apple
[01:15] <dr_Willis> ##jacks
[01:15] <_a61_> ##apple
[01:16] <ign0ramus> ##pie
[01:17] <ign0ramus> anyone use virtualbox?  the room in #vbox is echoing, and I could use some help
[01:18] <ubuntu_> Ok I have try and try to work around a problem I have with kubuntu as I have about 5 packages which are broken
[01:18] <ign0ramus> ubuntu_: have you ran "sudo apt-get -f install" in a terminal?
[01:19] <ubuntu_> yes it what to use a alpha cd what with that I did use it the first time
[01:20] <ign0ramus> ?
[01:20] <ubuntu_> yes
[01:20] <ign0ramus> i have no idea what you mean
[01:21] <ubuntu_> the system was running like a dream..  And then I show a friend the system while away from home no internet then
[01:21] <ign0ramus> ok - what specifically is your issue?  Are you running 8.04?
[01:22] <ubuntu_> I used a update cd which I place on a DVD from the 25 jul 08 then the system will not update in any package manage of konsole
[01:23] <zabbadapp> ign0ramus: i use vbox
[01:23] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: do you use XP as guest?
[01:23] <zabbadapp> yes
[01:23] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: do you have sound?  Because that is my issue
[01:24] <ign0ramus> ubuntu_: what is the output when you run *sudo apt-get update*?
[01:24] <zabbadapp> yes, i have alsa selected
[01:24] <ubuntu_> broken packages can not update
[01:25] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: me too, with the AC97 option.  But in guest XP, it claims there is no Audio Device Present, and wants to install a Mulitmedia Audio Controller, which always fails.
[01:25] <ign0ramus> ubuntu_: are you able to uninstall the broken packages in Adept?
[01:26] <ubuntu_> no will not let me
[01:26] <ubuntu_> ask for alpha disc
[01:26] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: should i try installing audio drivers in the guest?
[01:27] <ubuntu_> is there a way to go backward to stop this problem
[01:27] <ign0ramus> ubuntu_: what happens when you remove the Install Disc from your repositories?
[01:27] <draik> ubuntu_: You have to change the repos (somewhat) so that it doesn't ask for the CD
[01:27] <ubuntu_> how please
[01:28] <draik> ubuntu_: Go into Adept Manager
[01:28] <draik> Click on Adept, then on Manage Repositories
[01:28] <zabbadapp> ign0ramus: no idea, it just worked for me. devicemgr in guest says it's a "intel 82801aa ac97".
[01:29] <ubuntu_> no running Adept running synapic
[01:29] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: that's what everyone has said - it just worked for them.  I know i had a heck of a time getting sound to work on my lappy when I installed Kubuntu, so it's not a huge shock that it's giving me problems in Vbox
[01:29] <draik> IIRC, it should fix it within Adept; I don't know Synaptic
[01:29] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: who is the driver signed by?
[01:30] <ign0ramus> ubuntu_: in Synaptic... "Settings" --> "Repositories"
[01:31] <ign0ramus> uncheck the disc.  I assume you're talking about an Intrepid Ibex Alpha disc?
[01:31] <zabbadapp> ign0ramus:  Microsoft Windows Component Publisher, 2001-07-01, version 5.1.2535.0
[01:32] <ubuntu_> ok will log in hold on
[01:32] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: hmmm... maybe I will try downloading some drivers. I wasn't sure if Vbox used the Linux settings or actually had its separate API
[01:33] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: I just installed it yesterday - it's awesome.  Mostly for my email (MS Exchange) and ActiveSync (which I haven't got working yet...)
[01:33] <draik> Would removing firefox and then reinstalling fix firefox?
[01:33] <ign0ramus> draik: what's wrong with your firefox?
[01:34] <draik> Lags to start (about 5 min or so) and then when it loads, it freezes when trying to load google.com
[01:34] <Auxilio> Hi, kinda new here, is there a channel for edubuntu?
[01:35] <ign0ramus> draik: what if you start it in safe mode? <firefox --safe-mode> (assuming you are using Firefox 3)
[01:35] <draik> ign0ramus: I am using firefox 3.0.1
[01:35] <ign0ramus> draik: try the above command and see if it still hangs
[01:35] <draik> Ok
[01:35] <draik> Just did
[01:35] <RG-NewGuy> installing icewm on kubuntu?
[01:35] <draik> Still not loading.
[01:36] <draik> Rather, not loaded/displaying yet
[01:36] <ign0ramus> draik: figures.  did you back up your bookmarks and stuff already?
[01:36] <draik> ign0ramus: Yes.
[01:36] <zabbadapp> ign0ramus: yes its great! ... if you install the guest additions so that clipboard and resize works transparent
[01:36] <JackPhil> where to download the qt firefox?
[01:36] <ign0ramus> draik: as long as you don't have much to lose, then I'd reinstall Firefox... but make sure to delete your config files, too
[01:37] <ign0ramus> jackphil: they actually made a qt firefox?
[01:37] <draik> ign0ramus: Where do I go to delete the config files? My guess is something similar to ~/.mozilla/firefox....
[01:37] <ubuntu12> back
[01:37] <Auxilio> hi, is there a channel for edubuntu?
[01:37] <JackPhil> ignOramus, Yes, public test
[01:38] <draik> !edubuntu | Auxilio
[01:38] <ign0ramus> draik: yeah, that's one place.  Also in /usr/share (i think)... just use <locate firefox> and delete what config files and folders are there.  Then you can start from scratch
[01:38] <Auxilio> i understand that, i was just wondering if there was a channel for edubuntu, rather than kubuntu
[01:38] <Auxilio> !edubuntu
[01:38] <ubuntu12> ign0ramus was it you talking about repos'ys
[01:38] <ign0ramus> jackphil: i've wanted that for a while now...
[01:39] <Auxilio> well, perhaps i can get help here
[01:39] <ign0ramus> chuxxsss: i think so... it's hard to keep track of who is who when people keep changing their name o_O
[01:40] <JackPhil> ignOramus, me too: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/firefoxqt3.tar.gz
[01:40] <chuxxsss> I was in a live CD sorry
[01:40] <zabbadapp> JackPhil: i don't think there is a qt-FF anymore .. TIPS: you do know that the gtk-FF can use the kde file requester anyway? go to about:config and search for "file_picker", and toggle the boolean.
[01:40] <draik> ign0ramus: Guess what just loaded? The safe-mode prompt
[01:40] <ign0ramus> draik: wow.  nuke it from orbit - its the only way to be sure ;)
[01:41] <draik> ign0ramus: Too funny. I have a small tear from laughing at this issue now.
[01:41] <ign0ramus> jackphil: that url is broken
[01:41] <Auxilio> i'm running an intel graphics card, and whenever I try to load games, or anything 3D, I get a ton of errors
[01:41] <Hydrogen_> They revived the qt-ff port just recently
[01:41] <Auxilio> (both graphical errors, and window errors)
[01:41] <ign0ramus> draik: yeah, if you've backed up, kill every file named "firefox" in your system and reinstall
[01:41] <draik> ign0ramus: already did
[01:42] <ign0ramus> draik: you can also look into Swiftweasel, which is the same thing as FF, but optimized for your CPU architecture
[01:42] <Auxilio> so I was wondering if I needed drivers for my cards, but I can't find them
[01:42] <draik> ign0ramus: Just started up firefox again...
[01:42] <draik> Let's see how long this one takes
[01:42] <chuxxsss> no the look like the reposy thing did work
[01:43] <ign0ramus> draik: still waiting?
[01:43] <draik> yUP
[01:43] <draik> *Yup
[01:44] <draik> Just loaded
[01:44] <JackPhil> ignOramus, search the file name firefoxqt3.tar.gz
[01:44] <draik> Frozen
[01:44] <JackPhil> I got one on rapidshare, althouh it may be unsafe
[01:45] <ign0ramus> draik: try Swiftweasel: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=195473
[01:45] <Auxilio> anyone have any ideas how i should find drivers for my intel graphics?
[01:45] <ign0ramus> jackphil: if it's not from the mozilla team, I don't know if I'd install it, mostly for stability issues
[01:47] <chuxxsss> can anyone help me here is a paste of what I get with apt-get install -f now
[01:47] <chuxxsss> http://pastesite.com/1728
[01:47] <ign0ramus> chuxxsss: you have to close Synaptic
[01:47] <chuxxsss> thank hold on
[01:48] <draik> ign0ramus: I clicked on the link and it opened a new firefox window. Then it froze and nothing is going on. I closed both windows.
[01:48] <draik> ign0ramus: Any idea what is causing this?
[01:50] <ign0ramus> draik: honestly, no.  but to get around the web for now, use Konqueror, download what you need, and see how it works.  Also, check for old Firefox config files in /usr/share/mozilla
[01:51] <ign0ramus> draik: i forgot to tell you that there will be a lot of leftover Firefox files in "mozilla" folders, too.
[01:51] <draik> When in /usr/share/mozilla, I only had an extensions folder
[01:52] <chuxxsss> here is what print out on screen now
[01:52] <chuxxsss> http://pastesite.com/1729
[01:52] <ign0ramus> draik: i meant /usr/lib/mozilla.  sorry
[01:53] <draik> ign0ramus: I just found /usr/lib/firefox
[01:53] <draik> firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /etc/firefox /usr/lib/firefox
[01:53] <ign0ramus> chuxxsss: have you "pinned" any of your packages (ie, marked them not to be updated)?
[01:53] <draik> They have all be rm'd
[01:53] <ign0ramus> draik: yup.  there's a bunch
[01:54] <ign0ramus> draik: just make sure you don't have Thunderbird or other Mozilla apps, because some of their data will be kept in "Mozilla" folders too!
[01:54] <draik> ign0ramus: After removing the locations I listed, I ran the reinstall. Can't find the executable.
[01:55] <chuxxsss> I myself have try with the 5 broken packages but it didn't work
[01:55] <ign0ramus> draik: what do you mean? are you compiling Firefox?
[01:55] <draik> ign0ramus: No. "sudo apt-get install firefox sun-java6-plugin"
[01:56] <draik> sun-java6-plugin is removed when I "sudo apt-get remove firefox"
[01:56] <ign0ramus> draik: so you have installed  firefox again?
[01:56] <draik> Yup
[01:57] <draik> Removed, deleted and then installed it again
[01:57] <ign0ramus> draik: then you can run it from terminal "firefox", from Kmenu (under "Internet"), or from the executable, which should be in /usr/lib
[01:57] <draik> ign0ramus: Right, but it's not. Says that the executable doesn't exist
[01:58] <ign0ramus> draik: what if you just type "firefox" in a terminal?
[01:58] <draik> I am doing a reinstall
[01:58] <draik> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[01:58] <draik> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[01:58] <draik> bash: firefox: command not found
[01:59] <draik> That is from terminal
[01:59] <ign0ramus> draik: right, so its not installed
[01:59] <draik> Wait...
[01:59] <ign0ramus> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 is your ticket
[01:59] <draik> I realized that I was doing firefox, not firefox-3.0
[02:00] <draik> Nevermind, that's not it...
[02:00] <draik> firefox-3.0 is already the newest version.
[02:00] <ign0ramus> so purge firefox-3.0 for now, and then try to reinstall
[02:01] <draik> whereis firefox.....   firefox: /usr/lib/firefox
[02:02] <draik> Ok, here is the new whereis firefox..... firefox: /usr/bin/firefox /usr/lib/firefox
[02:02] <ign0ramus> draik: that's what it should be
[02:02] <draik> Still loading...
[02:03] <ign0ramus> draik: do you have any other mozilla applications installed?
[02:03] <draik> Yes
[02:03] <draik> Thunderbird
[02:04] <RG-NewGuy> n00b question say ./configure && make
[02:04] <RG-NewGuy> if you want to redo the make
[02:04] <RG-NewGuy> how would you remove previous make?
[02:04] <ign0ramus> draik: crap.  Because FF is my only Mozilla app, I can just go through and delete anything with "mozilla" in the name, but can't do that if you have Thunderbird
[02:04] <ign0ramus> RG-NewGuy: make clean
[02:05] <RG-NewGuy> thanks
[02:05] <draik> ign0ramus: I know.
[02:05] <ign0ramus> np.  we were all n00bs at some point.  I still am
[02:06] <draik> ign0ramus: I was thinking... What if I backup everything with Firefox in it, --reinstall, restore one thing at a time. Would that work?
[02:06] <draik> Or
[02:07] <draik> Make my important backups and then delete everything with the mention of firefox
[02:07] <ign0ramus> draik: that's what I was suggesting above.  and make sure to "purge" your firefox, not just "remove", which leaves config files
[02:08] <draik> That's what I forgot
[02:08] <draik> I forgot to purge
[02:08] <JackPhil> ignOramus, look this:http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/
[02:08] <draik> sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox firefox-3.0          Is that right?
[02:08] <manuel_> fuck
[02:08] <JackPhil> is it a Serious site?
[02:08] <ign0ramus> draik: this is probably the most backasswards way, but I'll open Konqueror as root, navigate to "/", and do a ctrl+f for *firefox*.  Let it find everything, (takes like 5-6 minutes), do a select all and shift-delete
[02:09] <ign0ramus> draik: you should be able to "apt-get purge <package>"
[02:09] <Devourer> Is there a way to install the KDE desktop environment without installing all the KDE applications?
[02:10] <draik> sudo apt-get purge firefox firefox-3.0         is now done.
[02:10] <ign0ramus> draik: i would go through and search for all "firefox" files and delete them now before reinstalling
[02:11] <ign0ramus> JackPhil: nice find.  the actual mozilla link: https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Pjohnsen/MozillaQtBuild
[02:11] <draik> Ok
[02:11] <ign0ramus> JackPhil: i just may try this.  I hate having one gtk app.  I know it makes little difference, but I'm just weird
[02:12] <JackPhil> ignOramus, you are not alone
[02:12] <draik> ign0ramus: Should I have opened konqueror as root?
[02:13] <ign0ramus> draik: you have to, otherwise you wouldn't be able to delete files in directories your username doesn't own (like /usr/bin), etc
[02:13] <draik> Thought so
[02:14] <ign0ramus> draik: just navigate to "/" (root), and ctrl+f for *firefox* (include the asterisks)
[02:14] <draik> ign0ramus: Search in the process
[02:15] <ign0ramus> draik: it will take a while, and may slow your comp down, but it'll find 'em :)
[02:16] <ign0ramus> draik: once its done searching (the kubuntu wheel will stop spinning and your computer will be responsive again), select all and shift+delete
[02:16] <dr_Willis> this all sounds a little extreme
[02:16] <dr_Willis> :)
[02:17] <zabbadapp> ign0ramus: the only thing that screams "gtk" in FF is the "save as..." file requester, and it can be changed to the KDE one by going to about:config and search for "file_picker" ... toggle the boolean. done!
[02:17] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: is that so?
[02:17]  * ign0ramus goes to tweak about:config
[02:17] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: set it to "false"?
[02:18] <zabbadapp> yes
[02:18] <zabbadapp> (seems backwards, but yes)
[02:18] <dr_Willis> Onw would think after all these years of Computer-gui-interface research and Development.. we would have the 'perfect' file requester dialog by now.
[02:18] <dr_Willis> :)
[02:18] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: holy crap, it works!  And using my theme icons to boot!
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Interesting
[02:19] <draik> ign0ramus: Going a step further... putting the backup files on my external... just to be safe
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> Good tip, zabbadapp
[02:19] <ign0ramus> draik: good idea
[02:20] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: did you ever try fixing your radio button issue in Firefox?
[02:20] <ign0ramus> where it doesn't display the checkmarks?
[02:22] <zabbadapp> Dragnslcr:  any kubuntu maintainers here? maybe that file_picker option should be set to KDE by default in kbuntu?
[02:22] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: but wouldn't that only work if you compiled Firefox? (honestly asking)
[02:23] <dr_Willis> ign0ramus,  i havent really noticed the problem lately
[02:24] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: haven't noticed or it's been fixed? because i'd like to change back to my original config if its been fixed
[02:24] <dr_Willis> Im on so many different machines.. Ive not noticed the issue on any of them lately
[02:24] <ign0ramus> dr_willis: yeah, you're a busy guy ;)
[02:24] <zabbadapp> There is an appearance setting in KDE that installs some theme fixes to Firefox in order to make gtk look more like the current QT-theme, it could also set the file_picker I guess .. no need to compile it
[02:25] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: true.
[02:25] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: there are already some Firefox-specific settings (i think dealing with the mouse) in Kcontrol as it is... so why not?
[02:28] <Devourer> Is there a Kubntu Live CD?
[02:28] <ign0ramus> devourer: sure is
[02:28] <Devourer> ign0ramus, one that has KDE 4.1?
[02:30] <draik> I am using Kopete. My friend sends me an image and it gets to 100% and that's it. It doesn't "complete". It sits at 100% and still says it's copying
[02:30] <draik> Am I doing something wrong?
[02:30] <zabbadapp> draik: but you got the data? what if you view the image?
[02:31] <draik> No, it's not complete. I cannot view the image.
[02:31] <draik> It's 0x0 dimensions
[02:32] <chuxxsss> How do I force a update of all packages
[02:32] <zabbadapp> no idea ... strange, I have watched halfway finished images over MSN (going through their slow server and then stop)... but those were jpg:s ...
[02:33] <chuxxsss> Devourer yes
[02:33] <chuxxsss> have one here
[02:33] <Devourer> chuxxsss, awesome.
[02:34] <draik> zabbadapp: This is also a jpg
[02:34] <Devourer> I think I'll try that out.
[02:34] <chuxxsss> look at the kubuntu site downloads
[02:36] <chuxxsss> ign0ramus how do I update my kubuntu system by force as I can't get by the broken file problem
[02:37] <ign0ramus> chuxxsss: you can always install the .deb files of your dependencies, or manually remove (rm -f) the offending packages.  You must be careful with that option though
[02:39] <chuxxsss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36066/
[02:39] <chuxxsss> anyone
[02:41] <chuxxsss> please
[02:42] <chuxxsss> ign0ramus
[02:42] <zabbadapp> chuxxsss: sudo dpkg --configure -a         (may take care of any pending package that got everything hanging)
[02:42] <zabbadapp> (but i really don't know what your problem is .. but that line has fixed some problems for me)
[02:43] <chuxxsss> thanks zabbadapp
[02:43] <ign0ramus> wtf? now my firefox is messed up too!  I get an error message saying that my configuration couldn't be saved, and now my homepage won't load on startup, and sites will load, but there will be no url displayed in the url bar!
[02:45] <chuxxsss> zabbadapp http://paste.ubuntu.com/36069/
[02:45] <ign0ramus> "Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash"
[02:45] <ign0ramus> wtf?
[02:45] <zabbadapp> ign0ramus: you didn't install any updates (including ones for FF) with adept, and haven't restarted FF yet?
[02:46] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: no...
[02:47] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: i initially closed it because vbox was slowing down my system, and then re-opened it afterwards.  the only thing i changed was the file_picker, but i doubt that would cause a crash like this
[02:47] <zabbadapp> chuxxsss: how did you end upp in dependecy hell? *buntu did such a good job and I have never been there .. (unlike with debian unstable or knoppmyth)
[02:48] <draik> ign0ramus: What were you saying about 5-6 minutes? It's still searching.
[02:49] <ign0ramus> draik: whoa... give it a minute or so.  the benefit of doing it through Konqueror as opposed to rm -rf'ing everything is that you can actually see all the files, and check if there's anything you want to keep
[02:49] <chuxxsss> I used a cd update from kubuntu site
[02:49] <zabbadapp> ign0ramus: you got all disks mounted? your home-dir available? ... i don't think the file_picker did it either (mine's been working for a long time)
[02:51] <draik> ign0ramus: Don't know about that minute, but it's done :)
[02:51] <chuxxsss> any no how I can fix this
[02:51] <ign0ramus> draik: i may have to do the same thing now!
[02:52] <zabbadapp> chuxxsss: no idea, but I hope you got /home on a separate partition -- then it is very easy to reinstall and all your settings and files will be kept intact (if you just remebmer to not select to format the /home when you use the partition manager)
[02:53] <draik> ign0ramus: why?
[02:53] <chuxxsss> I think its on the same drive
[02:55] <zabbadapp> chuxxsss: too bad, don't forget to make a separate /home next time!  it's magic to do a complete reinstall then, and all you files are still on the desktop as when you left them .. the sessions in firefox is still there, as well as all your extensions ... every application still has its settings like you configured them ... a few apt-get install <needed-apps> and you're done ... quickest reinstall ever! :-)
[02:55] <ign0ramus> draik: now i'm getting this error: "GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash."
[02:56] <ign0ramus> draik: none of my configs work, and no urls display in the urlbar.  also, the statusbar text doesn't change when hovering over links.  i don't know what the hell i just did
[02:57] <ign0ramus> oh, and apparently the "back" button doesn't work now, either.  Swiftweasel still works fine, though :/
[02:57] <zabbadapp> even after restarting it?
[02:58] <draik> ign0ramus: Weird. Now I can't delete some of the folders because (suddenly) they no longer exist
[02:58] <ign0ramus> zabbadapp: yup.  i just restarted x too.  same thing
[02:59] <ign0ramus> it looks like a gconf problem.  I'm googling...
[03:00] <draik> Suddenly none of those files exist
[03:00] <draik> This is slightly annoying now
[03:01] <draik> ign0ramus: What is suddenly causing these issues?
[03:01] <Nicolae> anyone familiar with dbus?
[03:01] <ign0ramus> draik: no idea.
[03:02] <ign0ramus> draik: luckily, my Swiftweasel has all the same extensions and bookmarks, so I'll probably just end up nuking my install and make a fresh one, and import like crazy
[03:02] <ign0ramus> ...if i can't find an answer online
[03:02] <draik> ign0ramus: Good that you have that option
[03:05] <ign0ramus> hmm... firefox works fine as root... I'm guessing it's somehow a permissions issue?
[03:05] <Devourer> Do I have to download the Intrepid whatever Live CD to use KDE 4.1?
[03:07] <draik> What is 8.10 going to be called?
[03:07] <BigBuddha> hey guys how do i format my usb drive in the terminal, or what is the best way?
[03:08] <BigBuddha> anyone?
[03:08] <dr_Willis> You format a filesystem.
[03:08] <dr_Willis> doesnt matter if its a usb drive or whatever. :)
[03:09] <BigBuddha> can you clarify plz?
[03:09] <dr_Willis> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/WHATEVERDEVICENAME
[03:09] <BigBuddha> kk
[03:09] <dr_Willis> Depending on what filesystem you wish to use
[03:09] <draik> Is there a cleaner version of traffic monitoring than WireShark?
[03:09] <dr_Willis> Partition the device, format the partitions to be whatever filesystem you wish to use.
[03:09] <BigBuddha> i just need to format it so i can put a home video on it
[03:10] <BigBuddha> ok, so if i open the device in the terminal, what would i type?
[03:10] <draik> dr_Willis: Since it's a USB drive, wouldn't it be mkfs.fat32  ?
[03:10] <dr_Willis> the gparted tool - gives a nice gui to the tools.
[03:10] <dr_Willis> draik,  it all depends on what filesystem he wants.
[03:10] <dr_Willis> if its allready fat32. whats the point in reformating.. just delete the files on the device
[03:10] <BigBuddha> whatever is compatible with windows as well
[03:11] <BigBuddha> i tried
[03:11] <BigBuddha> but it still says its full
[03:11] <draik> dr_Willis: He wants terminal, no GUI. I guess I give points for that.
[03:11] <dr_Willis> NOW we are getting to the real problem
[03:11] <BigBuddha> ok
[03:11] <dr_Willis> its very likely theres is a .trash or whatever directory on the device that everythign you deleted from the 'gui' got moved to
[03:11] <BigBuddha> hmmm
[03:12] <dr_Willis> use the terminal and LOOK and see what files are on there. use the rm command as needed to remove things.
[03:12] <draik> dr_Willis: Funny, I was just thinking about that. I remember the first time that happened to me.
[03:13] <BigBuddha> hey dr_Willis, i get this:
[03:13] <BigBuddha> aaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$ dir
[03:13] <BigBuddha> aaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$ ls
[03:13] <BigBuddha> aaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$
[03:13] <BigBuddha> so...
[03:13] <BigBuddha> hmmm
[03:13] <dr_Willis> note the .trash   . -> a hiden file
[03:13] <dr_Willis> use ls -al
[03:13] <draik> BigBuddha: You don't use "dir" in Linux/Unix
[03:13] <BigBuddha> kk
[03:13] <dr_Willis> Linux FUNdamentals
[03:14] <BigBuddha> oops
[03:14] <draik> I love learning Linux. It is always FUN. (no sarcasm)
[03:14] <dr_Willis> or just install and use the 'mc' file manager  from the terminal
[03:14] <BigBuddha> aaron@HQ-Linux:/media/PJUMPER2$ ls --all
[03:14] <BigBuddha> .  ..  .Trash-1000
[03:14] <dr_Willis> Golly... lookit that..
[03:14] <BigBuddha> lol
[03:14] <draik> :)
[03:14] <BigBuddha> i never doubted you
[03:14] <draik> dr_Willis: Golly gee willikers, too?
[03:15] <BigBuddha> so..
[03:15] <dr_Willis> 'ok-a-dokaly'
[03:15] <BigBuddha> just rm it
[03:15] <BigBuddha> ?
[03:15] <dr_Willis> Got a better idea? :P
[03:15] <dr_Willis> take out the trash heh heh.
[03:15] <BigBuddha> :p
[03:15] <draik> rm .Trash-1000
[03:15] <BigBuddha> hey, i'm learning here, lol
[03:15] <draik> Whoops
[03:15] <BigBuddha> ty guys
[03:15] <draik> rm -rf .Trash-1000
[03:15] <BigBuddha> ttyl
[03:15] <dr_Willis> sudo rm -rf .Trash-1000
[03:15] <dr_Willis> perhaps...
[03:16] <draik> sudo?
[03:16] <draik> Good point
[03:16] <dr_Willis> depends on who owns it.
[03:16] <Devourer> Does the Live CD with 8.04 on it have KDE 4.1?
[03:16] <draik> Sorry, my light bulb is a bit dim
[03:16] <BigBuddha> sweet
[03:16] <BigBuddha> you guys rock
[03:17] <dr_Willis> the kde file manager has a option to show 'hidden' files  for future referance.
[03:23] <barna> just installed kde 4.1 on kubuntu hardy (8.04.1) and i am having the following problema.  When closing the session kde is also finishing and I get a login console.  Any help will be appreciated...
[03:52] <draik> I am getting this error message after removing Firefox and then reinstalling firefox and firefox-3.0...
[03:52] <draik> dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[03:54] <enrique> q px
[03:55] <enrique> where am i????
[03:55] <enrique> what it is?
[03:56] <enrique> h
[03:56] <enrique> e
[03:56] <enrique> l
[03:56] <enrique> l
[03:56] <enrique> o
[03:56] <enrique> somebody else?
[03:56] <dr_Willis> Hmm
[03:57] <chuxxsss> zabbadapp how do I setting it up or can I move my home drive to a exteral drive and reinstall it later
[03:57] <draik> I can't seem to get firefox installed correctly
[03:57] <draik> How can I reinstall everything pertaining to firefox?
[04:06] <draik> I cannot, for the life of me, get firefox to work.  Do you have some sort of Kubuntu related tech support question?
[04:12] <weedar> Has anyone had any luck using Kino to capture video from a dv-camera connected via firewire?
[04:12] <enrique> hi!
[04:13] <enrique> yes but i have some probles about ubuntu
[04:14] <enrique> is various problems you can helpme pleas??
[04:14] <draik> enrique: did you go to the spanish channel?
[04:15] <enrique> ahh nou
[04:15] <dr_Willis> ask your question and see what we can do...
[04:15] <enrique> no cos i dont understen jet the konversetion setting
[04:16] <enrique> ok thanks firs is my amsn they no can sing in here in my house and my pc's school
[04:17] <draik> Translation: Your MSN cannot login at here (home, I think) your your school. Correct?
[04:18] <draik> *or your school
[04:18] <dennister> does anyone know why speakup has been dropped from repositories? i ask because i just downloaded someone's hardy kernel with speakup compiled in
[04:18] <enrique> in my scool is the seme problem, i dont know
[04:19] <enrique> why, and sorry about my english :(
[04:19] <dr_Willis> Dident MSN break somthing  the other day. so all the IM clients had to update?
[04:20] <draik> dr_Willis: sounds about right. Happened to me a while back (few months ago)
[04:20] <enrique> ohh i dont know
[04:21] <enrique> and yes the sounds is ok
[04:21] <dr_Willis> one of the many reasons I dont use MSN/ or other lame IM clients/services. :P
[04:22] <enrique> ahh ok but and then (
[04:22] <draik> Any recommendations for getting firefox to start over from a fresh install?
[04:25] <dr_Willis> I wonder how you managed to break firefox :)
[04:26] <dr_Willis> the package manager tools have the various purge and force options you could use I guess
[04:27] <draik> dr_Willis: adept or synaptic?
[04:29] <dr_Willis> they do the same job draik
[04:29] <draik> Ok
[04:30] <nusakan> I formated and mounted an external hard drive the other day and now I can't use my flash drives
[04:34] <Bashly> i just installed kde4 but it i cant seem to see a difference
[04:36] <dr_Willis> Bashly,  you did tell the system to log you into kde4 and not kde3 on the kdm login screen?
[04:36] <Bashly> it didnt ask me too
[04:37] <dr_Willis> its not supposed to ASK
[04:37] <dr_Willis> look at the KDM login screen. theres a sessions menu item somewhere.
[04:37] <Bashly> im kinda a noob so where is the kdm login screen
[04:38] <dr_Willis> Thats the screen where you Login.
[04:38] <dr_Willis> :) the very first one you see
[04:38] <Bashly> ok
[04:38] <dr_Willis> every new desktop/window manager adds a entry to the sessions menu.
[04:40] <Bashly> thanks ill try that
[04:40] <draik> dr_Willis: I forgot that I clicked on firefox so that it can load
[04:40] <draik> Surprised me right now as it popped up
[04:40] <draik> It is trying to open google.com, but it freezes
[04:40] <nusakan> I formated and mounted an external hard drive the other day and now I can't use my flash drives
[04:41] <dr_Willis> nusakan,  how did you mount the external drive?
[04:41] <dr_Willis> nusakan,  what you did shouldent really affect each other.
[04:41] <nusakan> then what could be wrong?
[04:42] <dr_Willis> Thats why i asked 'how' you mounted the external drive...
[04:42] <dr_Willis> its possible the 2 are totally not related.. its possibl you did somthing really weird.
[04:42] <nusakan> I don't think I could exactly tell you how I did it. I had people here walk me through it.
[04:42] <nusakan> I know its mounted to a folder on my desktop
[04:42] <nusakan> ummmm
[04:42] <BigBuddha> hey guys for some reason my amarok keeps updating my collection, i now have 5 entries of everything and counting, how do i fix this?
[04:42] <BigBuddha> noone is in #amarok
[04:42] <BigBuddha> :(
[04:43] <dr_Willis> Plug in the flash drive.. check 'dmesg' output.  make sure its see.   use 'sudo fdisk -l' to verify the device is seen. Then use the proper mount command  to mount it - is one way to mount the device
[04:43] <draik> There are 7 instances of firefox running when I look with htop
[04:44] <draik> firefox just terminated
[04:45]  * draik begins the funeral procession for Firefox
[04:46] <nusakan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36085/
[04:49] <nusakan> forget it. I cant deal with this tonight. too tired
[04:51] <draik> This is on a long shot...
[04:51] <draik> How do I update GRUB to include the latest kernel?
[04:53] <draik> !grub
[04:54] <dr_Willis> If you install a new kernel with the package manager.. it should auto-update grub to include it.
[04:54] <draik> dr_Willis: Right, it *should* unless you choose the wrong option
[04:54] <draik> <.<
[04:54] <draik> >.>
[04:54] <draik> Not that I would do that... or something...
[04:55] <dr_Willis> what  Option? i dont recall seeing any options  with doing this
[04:56] <draik> You get asked if you want to update GRUB and all of that good stuff
[04:56] <draik> At least I was asked
[04:56] <draik> Either way, it doesn't appear in my GRUB list
[04:56] <dr_Willis> I dont recall ever seeing it asking that.
[04:56] <draik> BTW, it there a way to stop the sporatic monkey that is Konqueror from boucing next to my pointer? It's annoying now.
[04:57] <dr_Willis> 'sudo update-grub' may scan add all new kernls it sees
[04:58] <draik> Nope, /boot/grub/menu.lst has not been updated
[04:58] <draik> BRB...
[04:58] <draik> Konqueror bounce is getting annoying.
[05:00] <dr_Willis> theres some mouse feedback options in the settings somewhere for the bouncy
[05:02] <draik> dr_Willis: Ok, I'm back
[05:02] <draik> It's not added
[05:02] <draik> Not sure what to do now.
[05:02] <draik> I can't get the new kernel to be added into my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:03] <dr_Willis> add it manyually i guess.. every time ive ever update/upgraded - its always just added the new kernels.
[05:04] <resplin> draik: Sorry I'm just joining the conversation. Did you try a dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:05] <resplin> Has anyone started using xrandr 1.2 with xorg for dual screen support?
[05:05] <draik> resplin: Sorry, I had to step away for a bit.
[05:05] <draik> What is the full command?
[05:05] <draik> sudo dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:06] <resplin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure <pkg_name>
[05:06] <resplin> so It's probably linux-image-2.6
[05:06] <resplin> Or something like that
[05:10] <resplin> Anyone familiar with xrandr?
[05:10] <dr_Willis> Ive used xrandr befor. :P
[05:11] <draik> resplin: linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic or 386?
[05:11] <resplin> I'm trying to set up dual screens on my Thinkpad running 8.04 (xrandr 1.2). thinkwiki tells me to use a really bare-bones xorg.conf, and then run some xrandr commands to tell X about the dual screens. It works when I do it from the commandline, but I'm not sure where to put the commands so that they are regularly executed. Any ideas?
[05:12] <draik> It's still not appearing on my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:12] <draik> I still show the linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic
[05:12] <resplin> Can I embed them in the xorg.conf? Perhaps in the xsession?
[05:12] <dr_Willis> resplin,   Theres the various xsession files.. and  the  /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ scripts
[05:12] <dr_Willis> you do NOT put commands in xorg.conf
[05:13] <resplin> That's what I figured. I had forgotten about Xsession.d. That's an excellent suggestion. Thanks dr_Willis.
[05:13] <dr_Willis> its possible you may need to do the commands after X starts.  perhaps in the users .xsession
[05:14] <resplin> draik: you can see which package you need to reconfigure by running dpkg -l *image*
[05:14] <resplin> Whichever one you have installed.
[05:14] <draik> resplin: generic
[05:14] <resplin> If that doesn't work, my only suggestion is to add it by hand to the end of menu.lst. I've never had that not work though.
[05:15] <resplin> I would like it to be global, so I was trying to avoid the users .xsession.
[05:15] <dr_Willis> Not sure how globally to do things.. or how it relates to the users .xsession
[05:16] <draik> For my menu.lst file, what do I put for kernel? I currently have   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=537aa42c-18cd-47b5-a641-bf0274039411 ro single
[05:16] <draik> Do I just change the 19 to 20?
[05:17] <resplin> It needs to be the filename, so do an ls /boot to see what is there.
[05:18] <draik> Yup
[05:19] <draik> That's it
[05:19] <draik> What about the UUID?
[05:19] <draik> Does that remain the same, resplin?
[05:20] <dr_Willis> UUID shouldent change
[05:20] <draik> Ok
[05:20] <draik> Here goes something... Hope to be back in 20-generic
[05:23] <t850> hello
[05:24] <dr_Willis> mooo
[05:25] <anthony> is there a way to type an umlat in a text area, i am not familiar with this u+9879 sequence
[05:25] <anthony> what key is u?
[05:26] <dr_Willis> i got no idea
[05:27] <draik> resplin_: Sorry, but that didn't work
[05:27] <draik> dr_Willis: resplin_: adding the change of 19 to 20 did not work
[05:27] <dr_Willis> you could clarify a bit more. :)
[05:27] <draik> I verified that the updated information was identical with the exception of the 19 and 20
[05:27] <draik> Let me get a patebin going.
[05:28] <draik> !pastebin
[05:28] <anthony> 0187
[05:28] <polpe> exit
[05:28] <anthony> )!*&
[05:28] <anthony> dammit
[05:28] <anthony> all i wanna type is an umlat
[05:28] <resplin_> draik: sorry then, I'm out of ideas. I haven't played with the UUID stuff much yet. You'll have to do some reading on Google.
[05:29] <dr_Willis> the UUID shouldent matter.. the kernels are all using the same 'root'
[05:29] <resplin_> anthony: you can use a utility like gucharmap
[05:29] <resplin_> or kcharselect
[05:30] <anthony> well this is within wine
[05:30] <draik> Here is my original menu.lst...    http://paste.ubuntu.com/36093/
[05:30] <anthony> so i dunno if it will work
[05:30] <draik> Here is my added 20...      http://paste.ubuntu.com/36094/
[05:31] <smarty> hey all... few questions... i wanna back up my system before making any specific changes to a theme.. when i try to use Keep - it doesnt allow me to save it anywhere (root, docs, home, etc)
[05:31] <smarty> Any way to do so or any other utility?
[05:31] <dr_Willis> draik,  and what happens if you try to boot the new kenrnel entry?
[05:31] <draik> No GUI
[05:32] <draik> I get TTY1
[05:32] <dr_Willis> thats... vague.. :)
[05:32] <resplin_> draik: have you installed the updated kernel modules for your graphics card? That might require recompiling say the nvidia module.
[05:32] <dr_Willis> You compiled this kernel yourself?
[05:33] <dr_Willis> If you get to the console. use 'uname -a' and see what kernel version you are running.
[05:33] <resplin_> anthony: I think pasting off the clipboard will work within wine, but I've never tested it myself.
[05:33] <anthony> resplin_: just tried it
[05:33] <anthony> i got \u0187
[05:33] <anthony> tee hee
[05:33] <anthony> didn't work too well
[05:35] <resplin_> anthony: sorry I can't help you.
[05:35] <Dillizar> can any one help me with kopete i have a small problem
[05:35] <Dillizar> :)
[05:36] <draik> resplin_: I don't believe I did anything with the video or it may have been part oft he upgrade
[05:36] <draik> uname -a      2.6.24-19-generic
[05:36] <draik> dr_Willis: I get the TTY1 screen being asked for my username, then password.
[05:37] <draik> dr_Willis: No, I did not compile the kernel. This was from the repos
[05:38] <dr_Willis> draik,  login, and use uname -a        see what kernel you are running
[05:38] <dr_Willis> You may be going about this totally the wrong way.
[05:38] <dr_Willis> it maybe running your kernel
[05:38] <draik> dr_Willis: 2.6.24-19-generic
[05:38] <draik> It's not because it doesn't appear on my list
[05:39] <draik> I had to revert to my original menu.lst without the 20
[05:39] <dr_Willis> I would just remove/reinstall the other kernel then.. and let it update the grub configs.
[05:39] <resplin_> draik: It sounds like you are booting fine, but that X isn't starting with the new kernel. What kind of graphics card do you have? Do you have an errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:40] <resplin_> Dillizar: state your problem, and we'll see if we can help.
[05:41] <Dillizar> when smb will send me a msg there is this BIG display note
[05:41] <Dillizar> how can i turn it off
[05:41] <draik> resplin_: Yes, here is my pastebin on that file.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/36097/
[05:43] <resplin_> That is the latest one which succeeded. We need the one from when you failed.
[05:44] <resplin_> It's probably Xorg.0.log.old
[05:44] <draik> Ok
[05:45] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36098/
[05:45] <resplin_> Dillizar: smb is sending you messages to Kopete?
[05:46] <resplin_> What is the display note say?
[05:47] <resplin_> draik: Yeah, that's what I thought. Your nvidia driver is not the right one for the new kernel module. You need to upgrade it too.
[05:47] <resplin_> Figure out which one with dpkg -l *nvidi*
[05:47] <resplin_> Then upgrade it with aptitude.
[05:47] <draik> How do I know which one it is?
[05:48] <draik> -new
[05:49] <draik> "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"    ?
[05:53] <Dillizar> resplin_: like incoming message          view      ignore
[05:55] <resplin_> draik: that sounds right.
[05:55] <draik> nvidia-glx-new is already the newest version.
[05:56] <resplin_> Dillizar: you can change kopete's notification settings Configure->Behavior
[05:57] <resplin_> draik: I'm not sure what is specifically wrong, but googling on the nvidia module for your specific card will help. There is lots of information.
[05:58] <draik> Is there a way to perform a reinstall on everything from the last upgrade?
[05:59] <Dillizar> resplin_: iknow that but what is the name fo this note
[06:00] <Dillizar> i dont know what to turn off
[06:00] <Dillizar> :)
[06:02] <resplin_> Dillizar: sorry, it's actually under Configure->Notifications, and I think it's "An incoming message has been received" or something.
[06:06] <Dillizar> ok i thinkg i have done smt :)
[06:06] <daedelu1> hey, I have a quick question. I just installed kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5x, and wanted to upgrade to 4.1. I used "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop" to install it, and it asked me whether I wanted to use kde 3 or 4 as the default, and I believe I chose 4. Anyways, then I rebooted, but it's still using kde 3.5. How do change it to use kde 4?
[06:09] <draik> No matter what I do, 20 does not get added to my menu.lst
[06:09] <draik> I reinstalled 20 and got nothing.
[06:09] <dr_Willis> You selexct what desktop to use at the Login screen.   theres a sessions menu item daedelu1
[06:09] <draik> It's there, but it will not add to the menu.lst
[06:09] <daedelu1> ok
[06:09] <daedelu1> thanks a bunch
[06:10] <dr_Willis> it proberly asked if you want to use KDM3 or KDM4 as the default liogin manager.. thats not the same as selecting the default desktop. :)
[06:10] <daedelu1> ah, that explains it even more
[06:10] <flaccid> dr_Willis: did that dude work out the sidewinder thing?
[06:11] <daedelu1> since the login screen was different
[06:11] <dr_Willis> no idea flaccid
[06:11] <flaccid> dr_Willis: no worries :)
[06:11] <dr_Willis> flaccid,  i wasent going to lose any sleep over it. :)
[06:13] <flaccid> yeah unfortunately i felt like i did. was a bit crazy
[06:13] <dr_Willis> he could of had a MS-Sidewinder stragic commander as well! :) its a Mouse+Joystick devce heh heh...
[06:13] <draik> What am I doing wrong if I cannot get GRUB to update? The 20-generic is there and reinstalled, but won't get into the menu.lst file.
[06:19] <flaccid> ouch!
[06:19] <flaccid> draik: update-grub fails? you could use kgrubeditor or a text editor
[06:20] <draik> flaccid: I did both. Manual update doesn't work. Won't load.
[06:23] <flaccid> draik: doesn't work, won't load?
[06:23] <flaccid> always specify a specific reason/error etc.
[06:23] <draik> It doesn't work because it won't load up the GUI
[06:24] <flaccid> draik: it = what? gui = what?
[06:24] <draik> When I reboot, it takes me to TTY1
[06:25] <flaccid> draik: no grub?
[06:25] <draik> Yes, I get GRUB. I chose the 20-generic
[06:25] <draik> Then I get to TTY1
[06:25] <flaccid> sounds like your X is not loading ie. kdm
[06:25] <flaccid> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:26] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36098/
[06:26] <flaccid> have a look at the bottom. you have to reinstall the nvidia driver so the mod matches against your kernel..
[06:27] <draik> How do I do that?
[06:27] <flaccid> nvidia-glx-new ? or just glx?
[06:27] <draik> -new
[06:27] <draik> Says it's the latest (apt-get)
[06:28] <dr_Willis> uname -a shows the proper kernel? or not..
[06:28] <draik> It shows 19-generic
[06:28] <dr_Willis> sounds to me like ya got  an error in the menu.lst entry you made.. or somthing else is going on and its gotten files confused.
[06:29] <draik> Delete menu.lst and then do sudo update-grub?
[06:30] <flaccid> draik: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx-new
[06:30] <flaccid> thats all you have to do
[06:30] <draik> Done
[06:31] <flaccid> draik: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:31] <flaccid> hmm he had x goin hmm weird. i thought it went to tty only. ah well
[06:32] <dr_Willis> i got no idea on this one.. he did somthign really weird... and been ttrying to fix it all day
[06:33] <dr_Willis> i  dident even see the -20 kernel in the updates yet
[06:33] <flaccid> fair enough. well the x log was pretty indicative. nvidia mod didn't match kernel
[06:33] <dr_Willis> and he did not seem to be even booting the -20 kernel
[06:34] <flaccid> yeah. i guess the kernel version thing is another thing dependent on his menu.lst and what he selects. the reinstall will fix for current kernel version, so i just assume he would be booting with that
[06:37] <smarty> need someones help big time... how do i install this theme??  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Xaphire?content=76705
[06:38] <dr_Willis> !changetheme
[06:38] <dr_Willis> !theme
[06:38] <flaccid> !themes
[06:38] <draik> flaccid: dr_Willis: I am still on 19-generic :(
[06:38] <smarty> i tried it in KBFX but it still doesnt appear.
[06:39] <flaccid> draik: yes but is your X fixed?
[06:39] <draik> Seems so. I don't have any issues viewing anything.
[06:39] <dr_Willis> That Theme uses Dekorator, so  you must download it. and use the Dekorator settings to load that theme
[06:40] <dr_Willis> its not a 'normal' theme in the respect.
[06:40] <smarty> sudo apt-get install dekorator?
[06:40] <dr_Willis> No idea.. use the search feature of the package manager tools. :)
[06:41] <resplin> dr_willis: a script in /etc/X11/XSession.d worked great. Thanks for the help.
[06:41] <smarty> okay :)
[06:41] <dr_Willis> Last i tried Dekorator - it sucked.
[06:41] <smarty> Heh.
[06:41] <dr_Willis> I will stick with the themes in the Normal Repositories
[06:42] <smarty> any specific link that handles normal repositories?
[06:42] <dr_Willis> What sort of specific link are you wanting? thers dozens of themes in the standard k/ubuntu repos.
[06:42] <dr_Willis> Not installed by default
[06:43] <smarty> what do you like the best? (or use the most) :P :)
[06:43] <dr_Willis> I use "Plastik" theme normally
[06:43] <smarty> ah ok
[06:44] <draik> But how do I manage to use 20-generic?
[06:44] <dr_Willis> i dont even see a 20-generic kernel in the repos...
[06:46] <flaccid> dr_Willis: im using 2.6.24-19-generic
[06:46] <dr_Willis>  2.6.24-19-generic
[06:46] <flaccid> why would you need -20 anyway?
[06:46] <dr_Willis> I only see a 16, 18, and 19  :)
[06:48] <draik> I see twenty installed with /boot
[06:48] <dr_Willis> id like to know where that came from.
[06:49] <flaccid> draik: pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst; dpkg -l | grep kernel please
[06:51] <draik> menu.lst    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36110/
[06:52] <draik> kernel    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36111/
[06:52] <flaccid> draik: there is no  2.6.24-20 in there..
[06:52] <draik> I know
[06:52] <draik> It won't add
[06:52] <flaccid> once again, what is 'it' ?
[06:53] <draik> Sorry
[06:53] <draik> sudo update-grub
[06:53] <dr_Willis> what files are in --> ls -l /boot/     because I cant even find any mentin of a 2.6.24-20 anywhere in the repos.
[06:54] <dr_Willis> Unless of coruse you are not using Hardy.....
[06:54] <flaccid> linux-image-2.6.24-20-generic | 2.6.24-20.38 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed/main Packages
[06:54] <flaccid> its in hardy-proposed..
[06:54] <flaccid> thats probably why. draik if you really want to use it, then edit menu.lst manually
[06:54] <draik> I am on 8.04
[06:54] <draik> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36112/
[06:55] <draik> Oh
[06:56] <flaccid> draik: like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36114/
[06:56] <draik> flaccid: That is what I did and I was unable to boot into a GUI with 20-generic
[06:57] <flaccid> draik: why?
[06:57] <draik> That's the million dollar question
[06:57] <draik> And the billion dollar question is why won't firefox work
[06:58] <flaccid> draik: describe the behaviour. in order to fix a problem, you need to know what the problem is...
[06:58] <draik> This all started with Firefox
[06:58] <dr_Willis> bigger  question - why are you using proposed at all... :)
[06:58] <draik> It takes about 5+ minutes to start
[06:58] <flaccid> it has nothing to do with firefox which is userland not kernel
[06:58] <draik> Then when it does, it freezes
[06:59] <flaccid> you can take out quiet splash options from the entry in menu.lst to see what is happening/freezing up on ..
[06:59] <draik> Login doesn't freeze
[06:59] <flaccid> login?
[07:00] <flaccid> sorry mate, you are always vague :)
[07:01] <draik> Sorry
[07:01] <draik> Computer starts up just fine
[07:01] <draik> I am able to login with a GUI and all
[07:01] <draik> I can't run firefox
[07:01] <flaccid> so firefox is the only problem left?
[07:02] <draik> Yes
[07:02] <flaccid> draik: run firefox from konsole and see what the problem is
[07:02] <draik> None
[07:03] <dr_Willis> No problems? we all done then...
[07:03] <dr_Willis> :P
[07:03] <draik> :/
[07:04] <flaccid> pretty much
[07:04]  * flaccid shakes dr_Willis' hand
[07:04] <dr_Willis> You just said there was None to the 'problems' -
[07:04]  * dr_Willis is confused again...
[07:05] <flaccid> yeah ah well
[07:05]  * dr_Willis updates and upgrades....   and looks at the 45mb icons package download...
[07:05] <draik> None reported, that's what I meant.
[07:06] <flaccid> i have 370 pkgs to update but im on a crap connection till about the 17th :o
[07:08] <dr_Willis> draik,  so you run firefox from the terminal, and it just sits there for 5 min.. then starts up?
[07:08] <draik> Yes
[07:08] <draik> I currently have firefox open
[07:08] <draik> But I can't do anything
[07:08] <draik> Firefox hangs
[07:08] <draik> I just clicked on the address bar and it froze
[07:09] <dr_Willis> By which you mean to say.. even after firefox starts 5 min later.. its usless eh...
[07:09] <flaccid> draik: try with a fresh ~/.mozilla or a new user
[07:09] <flaccid> or use a better browser like Opera :p
[07:09] <dr_Willis> !info dilo
[07:09] <dr_Willis> !info dillo
[07:10] <draik> flaccid: I tried Opera. Seems that pages won't load unless I'm still viewing that tab/page.
[07:10] <draik> I keep on using the reload button with Opera
[07:10] <dr_Willis> sounds to me like you got some deeper issues
[07:12] <draik> :(
[07:13]  * dr_Willis gets ready to boot to   linux-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.22) .
[07:13] <dr_Willis> :P
[07:14] <dr_Willis> brb
[07:15] <flaccid> draik: you might be talking about the loading behaviour in opera, that can be changed
[07:16] <alex777x> I have a raid5 array with 3 drives, 2 are still intact, I'm trying to increase the size of the array, so I'm trying to add a 3rd partition with a greater size
[07:16] <alex777x> for example: sda1: 150g, sdb1 150g, and I'm trying to add sdc1 with 200g
[07:16] <draik> flaccid: I have been trying for the past 2 days to get my firefox running again. :(
[07:16] <alex777x> I have mdadm 2.6.4
[07:16] <flaccid> draik: so you telling me you get no output at all running it from konsole?
[07:16] <draik> Correct
[07:17] <draik> Firefox just runs after 5 minutes
[07:17] <Ayabara> I want to create a listing of what's on my external harddrives so that I can check the content when I'm not connected. Any ideas how I could/should do it?
[07:17] <flaccid> draik: ah well. perhaps #firefox can help
[07:17] <crackhead> hey does anyone know now to make firefox on ubuntu look like firefox on windows to websites you visit??
[07:17] <flaccid> Ayabara: without further requirements ls -lahR /media/mountpoint
[07:17] <dr_Willis> there are extensions for firefox - that can change the 'user agent'  crackhead
[07:18] <flaccid> so ls -lahR /media/mountpoint > ~/list-of-files.txt
[07:18] <alex777x> am I doing something wrong ?
[07:18] <draik> LOL. I didn't see the username and thought dr_Willis was suddenly being rude LOL
[07:18] <dr_Willis> :)
[07:18] <Ayabara> flaccid, thanks again. I'll see if I can find yet another channel where you can answer me :)
[07:19] <flaccid> haha cool
[07:22] <draik> Well, it's late. I tried loading firefox from Konsole and it still doesn't have any error messages.
[07:22] <draik> I also do not have another login prompt, if that matters.
[07:22] <alex777x> anyone ?
[07:22] <Guest81261> Yasberlis
[07:23] <flaccid> draik: another login prompt?
[07:23] <draik> Don't I get a login prompt once the app is loaded?
[07:24] <flaccid> what app?
[07:24] <draik> In this case, firefox
[07:24] <draik> All I show right now is      $: firefox
[07:25] <draik> The cursor is just below it
[07:25] <draik> Sorry, that should be        :~$ firefox
[07:26] <draik> This is new
[07:26] <draik> Didn't see this before
[07:26] <draik> There is an error message
[07:26] <draik> flaccid: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36118/
[07:27] <flaccid> i have no idea what a login prompt has to do with firefox..
[07:27] <draik> flaccid: I'm sorry. I thought that once any application was loaded, you would get a login prompt
[07:28] <flaccid> why would you think that?
[07:28] <draik> I just thought it was like any other command. Once it's done, it's closed and you get a new login prompt
[07:29] <flaccid> draik: thats not how it works at all. technically the only login you do is from kdm..
[07:30] <draik> I just realized I was calling it a login prompt
[07:30] <flaccid> draik: i'd advise learning about bash redirection and sending processes to the background with & etc..
[07:30] <draik> I meant to say a command prompt
[07:30] <flaccid> yeah see above draik ^^
[07:30] <draik> Sorry
[07:30] <flaccid> np
[07:31] <draik> Does the error message make sense to you? The one from my last pastebin
[07:31] <flaccid> draik: nope. the only thing i can advise is googling it and going to firefox and maybe trying to reinstall firefox/try a dif version etc.
[07:31] <draik> How can I get a different version?
[07:32] <flaccid> http://getfirefox.com
[07:35] <draik> Kinda funny that it opened in Firefox
[07:39] <flaccid> hehe
[07:41] <flaccid> draik: which firefox you using?
[07:41] <draik> 3.0
[07:41] <flaccid> can you paste the entry from dpkg -l please?
[07:45] <SitUbuntuSit> draik, did you install any extensions?
[07:46] <draik> Almost didn't think pastebin was going to accept that much...    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36122/
[07:46] <SitUbuntuSit> maybe your profile is screwed up somehow.
[07:46] <flaccid> draik: oh i essentially meant dpkg -l | grep firefox
[07:46] <draik> LOL
[07:46] <draik> Ok
[07:46] <flaccid> draik: i advised doing a fresh profile/now profile etc. before, same result you say?
[07:47] <draik> SitUbuntuSit: I have uninstall and reinstalled many many many times
[07:47] <SitUbuntuSit> but if you don't purge your profile, it will still try to use it
[07:47] <SitUbuntuSit> and if you have conflicts from extensions/addons, it will persist in new installations
[07:48] <SitUbuntuSit> you could always rm -r ~/.mozilla from the command line
[07:48] <flaccid> yes as i said before draik: [16:09] <flaccid> draik: try with a fresh ~/.mozilla or a new user
[07:48] <draik> I deleted the profile
[07:48] <flaccid> draik: same thing?
[07:48] <draik> How do I start with a fresh .mozilla?
[07:48] <draik> Yes, same thing
[07:48] <draik> Right now, I should be on my 8th or 9th profile.
[07:48] <SitUbuntuSit> If you delete .mozilla it will create a new one when you open firefox again
[07:49] <draik> Ok
[07:49] <SitUbuntuSit> just to be sure you could sudo aptitude purge firefox-whichever-version from the commad line as well
[07:50] <draik> Ok
[07:50] <draik> Removed
[07:51] <draik> Let me start firefox again
[07:51] <SitUbuntuSit> goodluck
[07:51] <flaccid> if you purged it, there will be no firefox to start. you should run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:52] <SitUbuntuSit> LOL, that would have been frustrating. Didn't think to mention that one key point there.
[07:55] <draik> Still pending on firefox to start
[07:55] <flaccid> draik: you mean same thing?
[07:55] <draik> Yes
[07:56] <SitUbuntuSit> do other programs hang at all?
[07:56] <SitUbuntuSit> oh, well then in that case, it probably NOT a firefox issue, but something else.
[07:57] <SitUbuntuSit> which programs? all, some?
[07:58] <draik> Just firefox
[07:59] <flaccid> ah well draik. the only last thing you can try besides a different firefox is rasing a bug or doing a strace firefox and see if you can work it out from that
[07:59] <draik> Hmmm
[07:59] <draik> I got the wizard from firefox
[07:59] <flaccid> and this is not a k app either :O
[07:59] <draik> Import Wizard
[07:59] <flaccid> got the wizard?
[07:59] <flaccid> congratulations..
[08:01] <happosade> Hello
[08:01] <flaccid> !hi
[08:02] <Happis> !fsck
[08:02] <draik> Ok
[08:02] <draik> This is new
[08:03] <draik> *** about to copy smart keywords
[08:03] <draik> *** done copying smart keywords
[08:03] <flaccid> draik: google your errors and keep !enter in mind.
[08:04] <draik> flaccid: Sorry about the enter.
[08:05] <Happis> how long that fhck gonna take?
[08:05] <Happis> fsck
[08:05] <flaccid> Happis: depends on many variables it could be 30seconds or it could be 10minutes
[08:05] <flaccid> Happis: why dont you try and see?
[08:07] <happosade> Gah!
[08:07] <happosade> !shipit
[08:10] <draik> It's getting late. I have to get some rest. Maybe some fresh eyes will help in the morning.
[08:11] <draik> Thanks flaccid
[08:12] <chairman> i need help w/jasper image converter
[08:12] <flaccid> chairman: this chan is kubuntu support
[08:13] <chairman> how do i get jasper image converter ?
[08:13] <flaccid> still you can ask chairman your question if you want
[08:13] <chairman> i just did
[08:14] <flaccid> chairman: i can see that. google should always be checked and i found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=871399
[08:14] <flaccid> !iinfo libjasper-progs | chairman
[08:20] <chairman> in the konsole terminal right flaccid
[08:20] <flaccid> chairman: nah that was a bot call. if you want to install this package in konsole you type: sudo apt-get install libjasper-progs
[08:21] <darx> hi, when viewing pdf's in kde 4.1 konqueror, it get artifacts when scrolling. scrolling works fine in okular.
[08:21] <darx> hwo may i fix this?
[08:21] <darx> has some one tried opening pdf's in konqueror and scrolling around for 10 seconds or so..
[08:22] <darx> I hate okular and would rather konqueror opened everything.
[08:23] <darx> Somebody home?
[08:24] <flaccid> !enter | darx
[08:24] <flaccid> darx: also wrong channel for kde4 help, see topic
[08:24] <darx> thanks
[08:25] <chairman_> nothing
[08:26] <flaccid> chairman_: nothing?
[08:27] <chairman_> i tried it but nothing happened
[08:27] <chairman_> i did everything u told me to
[08:28] <flaccid> chairman_: so you typed  sudo apt-get install libjasper-progs in konsole and it did nothing, it just sat there and did nothing?
[08:30] <flaccid> chairman_: anyway. the package name has changed. open adept manager and enable the universe repos then let it fetch updates, then install the package: libjasper-runtime and you will get both the libs and progrs for it
[08:33] <chairman_> it uploaded it and i put my PW in and it said command not ffound
[08:34] <flaccid> well thats not nothing is it..
[08:34] <flaccid> follow the above directions
[08:38] <chairman_> thanks
[08:39] <flaccid> np
[09:58] <icheyne> my /dev/sda1 partition is full
[09:59] <icheyne> according to df -h it is mounted on root
[09:59] <icheyne> sorry I mean /
[09:59] <flaccid> thats no good
[09:59] <icheyne> how do I tell where the space has gone?
[09:59] <intreq> i have some questions
[10:00] <icheyne> I tried du, but that just gave me a massive list of results
[10:01] <FSHero> Hello all; could someone look at the following pastebin please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/36145/
[10:01] <FSHero> I think my hard-disk is failing by the look of some of these messages (which is a dmesg taken after I started Kubuntu)
[10:02] <FSHero> Check out lines [   37.596175]
[10:02] <FSHero> And [   37.596387]
[10:02] <FSHero> Similar errors occur below in the dmesg output
[10:03] <flaccid> !info filelight | icheyne
[10:03] <flaccid> !info kdirstat | icheyne
[10:03] <icheyne> thanks flaccid
[10:03] <flaccid> !enter | FSHero
[10:03] <flaccid> np
[10:03] <icheyne> I'll try them out :)
[10:03] <FSHero> flaccid -- sorry
[10:03] <flaccid> > polish the access key interface,np
[10:03] <flaccid> oops. i meant np
[10:06] <flaccid> FSHero: good idea to search google with errors, always. eg. i found this on google: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-472056.html
[10:06] <icheyne> thanks flaccid - I found the cause - kdirstat was good enough for me...
[10:07] <flaccid> so do a fsck and smartctl and see if there is a problem FSHero
[10:07] <flaccid> icheyne: cool
[10:07] <FSHero> flaccid: ok thx. I didn't know where to start with checking... I did a google search of the line "ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }" just now and it leads me to this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/221677
[10:08] <FSHero> This launchpad bug implies that the kernel is faulty; but can this be on my comp? I've been using this for a couple of months now. This problem only appeared suddenly this morning.
[10:08] <FSHero> flaccid: I shall try fsck and smartctl; thx.
[10:09] <flaccid> FSHero: cool. maybe if you replace the ide cable and check the jumpers it might solve your problem, worth a try
[10:09] <flaccid> maybe you are using an ata33 cable..
[10:10] <flaccid> you want an ata133 cable which is 80 pin, not 40pin. still this may not be the case for you
[10:21] <jean-louis> Hello. Is there a french here ? Il y a des français connectés ?
[10:21] <bazhang> !fr
[10:21] <jean-louis> Merci
[10:21] <jean-louis> Comment fait-on ?
[10:22] <jean-louis> How can I connect me to ubuntu-fr, please ?
[10:23] <gnumm>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:25] <gnumm> will pulseaudio be in kubuntu 8.10?
[10:31] <Dr_willis> pulseaudio is used by gnome i thought. not kde.
[10:32] <DreamCaster> ermm someone help me install firefox plz
[10:34] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install firefos
[10:34] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:34] <Dr_willis> is what i normally use
[10:35] <DreamCaster> lol i was doing it through the guide from the site
[10:35] <DreamCaster> but it was not working :/
[10:35] <DreamCaster> thanks
[10:35] <Dr_willis> no idea on what site/guide... its in the repos.. so its trivial to install
[10:37] <flaccid> !firefox
[11:00] <cr0w> hi exist a kubuntu italian channel ?
[11:01] <Dragnslcr> !it
[11:01] <cr0w> Kubuntu
[11:01] <cr0w> not ubuntu
[11:01] <jussi01> cr0w: they are together supported there
[11:01] <cr0w> ok
[11:01] <cr0w> thanks
[11:01] <jussi01> :)
[11:29] <ijai> hi there
[11:29] <ijai> im new 2 linux
[11:29] <ijai> need help on compiz
[11:30] <ijai> any1???
[11:31] <SitUbuntuSit> what is your problem... i don't use it anymore but might be able to help
[11:31] <ijai> i hv install compiz thru adept
[11:31] <ijai> but when i run it fro mterminal
[11:32] <ijai> i said "checkng for xgl: not resent" wat does it means?
[11:33] <flaccid> lol it means xgl is not present which is not required, but seeya heh
[11:33] <SitUbuntuSit> depending on your graphics card, you may need xgl to run it. if so, you would have to install xgl.
[11:33] <ijai> how can i get xgl?
[11:33] <SitUbuntuSit> i used to have to myself. i installed it by sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[11:34] <SitUbuntuSit> then you will have to reboot
[11:34] <ijai> can i look it from adept manager?
[11:34] <SitUbuntuSit> sure
[11:34] <flaccid> ijai: you don't need xgl.
[11:34] <SitUbuntuSit> i used to in gutsy, not in hardy though.
[11:34] <ijai> just type xserver-xgl?
[11:34] <SitUbuntuSit> i had ati drivers.
[11:35] <SitUbuntuSit> did something change flaccid?
[11:35] <ijai> im using kubuntu 7.10
[11:35] <SitUbuntuSit> ah
[11:35] <SitUbuntuSit> that's why
[11:35] <SitUbuntuSit> yes
[11:35] <flaccid> SitUbuntuSit: the world changes everyday
[11:35] <SitUbuntuSit> lol flaccid, but he IS using gutsy.
[11:35] <ijai> flaccid: how to start my compiz
[11:35] <flaccid> i still dont' think you need xgl which is a microsoft thing. #compiz-fusion can confirm this
[11:35] <flaccid> ijai: compiz --replace &
[11:36] <SitUbuntuSit> well with an ati card, most people had to
[11:36] <SitUbuntuSit> otherwise, it wouldn't run, or it was so slow it was unuseable
[11:36] <geek_> flaccid: xgl isn't microsoft actually
[11:36] <flaccid> SitUbuntuSit: im on ati and never needed it
[11:36] <ijai> hold on guys ... im getting lost here
[11:36] <SitUbuntuSit> perhaps it depends on the card, but ati is notoriously crappy
[11:37] <SitUbuntuSit> ijai, perhaps ask in compiz-fusion. they'd know best.
[11:37] <flaccid> geek_: true you are right, my bad
[11:37] <ijai> ok thaks
[11:37] <liux> ciao a tutti
[11:37] <flaccid> xgl:  The project was started by David Reveman of Novell and first released on January 2, 2006. It was finally removed [1] from the X server in favor of AIGLX on June 12, 2008.
[11:37] <SitUbuntuSit> you can google gutsy xgl compiz and your card and get a lot of how tos
[11:38] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | ijai
[11:38] <SitUbuntuSit> just type /join #compiz-fusion ijai
[11:38] <SitUbuntuSit> that should do it
[11:39] <flaccid> ijai: anyway your error is not an error and you don't need xgl. so you should look at the subsequent output if your compiz is not working.
[11:56] <jagguli> hi all .. a quick one .. how to purge all removed packages
[11:59] <flaccid> jagguli: try google
[11:59] <flaccid> which finds http://ascending.wordpress.com/2007/04/10/apt-tip-purge-removed-packages/
[11:59] <jagguli> flaccid: thanks found it ..
[12:00] <jagguli> start aptitude, put the cursor onto "not installed packages" and press _ g g
[12:03] <jagguli> any one using konversation .. is there a quickr way to reply to an id .. publicly
[12:03] <faileas> id?
[12:03] <jagguli> nick
[12:04] <jagguli> faileas:like this .. with the nick before the message
[12:04] <faileas> like jagguli: that?
[12:04] <faileas> ahh
[12:04] <jagguli> yu
[12:04] <jagguli> yup
[12:04] <faileas> jagguli: first few letters, yab
[12:04] <faileas> tab
[12:04] <jagguli> faileas: cool
[12:04] <jagguli> faileas: thanks
[12:04] <faileas> ^^
[12:05] <faileas> its the same every  client i've used ;p
[12:05] <jagguli> faileas: k thts very useful :)
[12:09] <flaccid> jagguli: hmm that aptitude thing is cool but im not sure if its right
[12:13] <jagguli> flaccid: it works
[12:13] <flaccid> not for me, it wants to do other stuff. what is 'g' in aptitude interactive?
[12:13] <jagguli> flaccid: worked with aptitude
[12:14] <jagguli> to apply the changes afik
[12:14] <jagguli> _ is to purge
[12:14] <proteusguy> running kde 3.5.9 under kubuntu hardy. my konqueror help describes a 'show terminal emulator' option but i can't seem to find it anywhere. any ideas?
[12:14] <flaccid> jagguli: i know that sudo aptitude purge ~c will do it, but not sure on the interactive. i was prompted with other things and could not do it
[12:16] <jagguli> flaccid: hmm ...worked for me ..
[12:18] <flaccid> jagguli: how did you find it out?
[12:18] <Dr_willis> proteusguy,  use the F8 key i think
[12:18] <icelab> hi
[12:19] <icelab> someone can help me??
[12:19] <Dr_willis> proteusguy,  one of th F keys will show a konsole terminal window at the bittom of the file manager
[12:19] <icelab> i guess
[12:19] <Dr_willis> icelab,  ask a question and see who knows what.
[12:19] <icelab> ok
[12:19] <proteusguy> Dr_willis: wow that worked thanx. But do you see ANY menu option for this? Can't find anyway to access outside of the magic function key. Would like to make this automatically come up as part of my file browsing profile.
[12:20] <Dr_willis> proteusguy,  you can save the layout of your file manager to a session i recall in the menus
[12:20] <icelab> tha package kubuntu restricted extras are availlable for kubuntu 7.04, brecause i don't find on adept
[12:20] <Dr_willis> proteusguy,  and i do recall seeing that show terminal thing in the  menus somewhere
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu-restricted-extras was only added in whith the 8.0.4 release I thought
[12:21] <Dr_willis> i could be wrong.. and you could be spelling the package name wrong...
[12:21] <Dr_willis> !find kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:21] <Dr_willis> !find kubuntu-restricted-extras hardy
[12:22] <flaccid> jagguli: yeah thats right as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide , 'g' is just view and commit. i guess this works by removing packages that are already not installed. ah well im confused. if i do this with mine its not desirable
[12:29] <icelab> no way may i install some reposetry?
[12:30] <masteredu> how can i add the standard kde 3 on my kubuntu kde 4 remix?
[12:30] <flaccid> icelab: can you rephrase that?
[12:30] <flaccid> masteredu: install the pkg kubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <icelab> i will install the kubuntu-restricted-extras on kubuntu 7.04, but i dont find on adept
[12:31] <flaccid> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras feisty
[12:32] <flaccid> doesn't exist in 7.04 it seems, icelab
[12:32] <flaccid> !codecs | icelab
[12:33] <icelab> so installing ubuntu restricted is a wrong way?
[12:33] <flaccid> icelab: only  ubuntu-restricted-extras seems available in feisty
[12:33] <flaccid> depends what you are trying to achieve
[12:33] <icelab> video divx or xvid
[12:36] <flaccid> icelab: have you read the above links?
[12:36] <icelab> i'm just doing
[12:37] <icelab> but my english is not very perfect :-))
[12:37] <henk> hi all, I can't change the settings for the KDE desktop pager... It stays at 2 desktops, even if I change it to 4... Any tips?
[12:48] <Dekans> henk: you have to change the desktop settings
[12:48] <Dekans> not the pager settings
[12:48] <henk> Dekans: i have... right click on the desktop, setup virtual desktops.... but if i set it to 4, nothing changes
[12:48] <Dekans> ah ok
[12:48] <Dekans> do you use compiz ?
[12:49] <henk> yes, but i only switched to it to see if that would allow me to increase the number of virtual desktops
[12:49] <flaccid> try #compiz-fusion
[12:49] <Dekans> I you're using compiz, you must change the desktop size in the compiz settings manager
[13:03] <concernedcitizen> this is it
[13:11] <Kubuntu_> Hi. Anyone know if ubuntu adds it's own patches to the official kernel. If so, where can the patches be downloaded from ? Thanks.
[13:13] <concernedcitizen> I thought only linus has access to the official kernel?
[13:13] <faileas> er
[13:14] <faileas> anyone can download the official kernel
[13:14] <concernedcitizen> I mean as in do changes to it
[13:14] <Kubuntu_> ... does Ubuntu add their own patches to Linus' kernel ?
[13:16] <Nicolae> I don't know, but I assume the linux-source package would have them if they do.
[13:52] <masteredu> Hello
[14:03] <DreamCaster> any msn-like program?
[14:03] <abby87> DreamCaster: amsn
[14:04] <abby87> DreamCaster: sudo apt-get install msn
[14:04] <abby87> DreamCaster: sorry sudo apt-get install amsn
[14:04] <flaccid> !kopete | DreamCaster
[14:05] <flaccid> and kopete is already installed with kubuntu :)
[14:05] <abby87> !amarok
[14:10] <DreamCaster> !real
[14:10] <DreamCaster> !real player
[14:10] <DreamCaster> !realplayer
[14:13] <flaccid> DreamCaster: you pretty much have to get the standalone player from them if thats what you want
[14:13] <kde41> hi
[14:13] <flaccid> !hi
[14:13] <kde41> is there a dolphin support chan?
[14:13] <flaccid> DreamCaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[14:14] <flaccid> kde41: not sure, but there is #kde
[14:14] <kde41> thanks
[14:14] <flaccid> np
[14:20] <marwan> Hi, my sound stop working after i update/upgrade my Kubuntu 8.04
[14:20] <marwan> can any one help me ?
[14:20] <dennister> okie doke; speakup has been dropped from the hardy repositories (apparently still present with gutsy), so I'm gonna have to try and create kernel with it compiled in, and then perhaps create a deb package...daunting...used to compiling a kernel from my gentoo days, ut...
[14:20] <dennister> !speakup
[14:22] <marwan> i can see the icon of my PC enabled and i can adjust the volume
[14:23] <marwan> but no sound
[14:23] <dennister> !Speakup
[14:23] <MementoMori> marwan: maybe it's muted?
[14:24] <marwan> no its not
[14:24] <marwan> i checked that
[14:24] <MementoMori> marwan: try using alsactl from console
[14:24] <MementoMori> marwan: how many sound card do you own?
[14:25] <marwan> when i first installed 8.04 it was working and when i upgrade it stoped working
[14:25] <marwan> i have one sound card
[14:25] <MementoMori> ok try alsactl
[14:27] <MementoMori> has anyone tried acl posix permissions with dolphin?
[14:27] <marwan> ok i will try that now
[14:30] <marwan> what do you want me to try with alsactl?
[14:32] <MementoMori> marwan: using alsactl you can configure a misconfigured sound card
[14:35] <marwan> ok i will try that now thanks
[14:40] <DreamCaster> any idea how to install w32 codecs?
[14:45] <Nix3r> any alternative to knemo ?
[14:46] <MementoMori> DreamCaster: add medibuntu repo
[14:47] <MementoMori> then you can use apt or aptitude
[14:47] <dolo> anybody here using a bootsplash screen they made themselves?
[14:48] <DreamCaster> MementoMori: ermm hmm i already have medibuntu repo
[14:48] <MementoMori> so do this:
[14:48] <MementoMori> sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install w32codecs
[14:50] <DreamCaster> thanks finally it is installing them
[14:57] <DreamCaster> !libdvdcss
[14:57] <concernedcitizen> SUP!
[14:57] <concernedcitizen> hey guys need some help changing my screen resolution
[14:57] <concernedcitizen> but I cant seem to find the option
[14:57] <DreamCaster> !Universe
[14:58] <Nix3r> any alternative to knemo ?
[14:59] <Nix3r> !knemo
[15:00] <concernedcitizen> anyone?
[15:00] <concernedcitizen> I can't seem to find the option to change screen resolution
[15:06] <MementoMori> concernedcitizen: system settings -> display
[15:07] <concernedcitizen> MementoMori: I've tried them all
[15:07] <concernedcitizen> Under Appearances, Desktop, Window Behavior and Notifications
[15:08] <concernedcitizen> can't find the option to change screen resolution
[15:08] <concernedcitizen> WAIT
[15:08] <concernedcitizen> gah, how could I have missed that.
[15:08] <concernedcitizen> we're coal now.
[15:09] <vj> for hours I've been trying to setup mysql with Ubuntu, but it wouldn't work. when I try to create a database with mysqladmin CREATE mydb, it says access denied :-(
[15:10] <MementoMori> vj:  have you set up a root pass?
[15:10] <vj> MementoMori: how?
[15:10] <MementoMori> i mean a mysql root pass
[15:10] <MementoMori> during the package installation
[15:11] <MementoMori> vj:  so, have you set up a root pass?
[15:12] <MementoMori> if not use the mysqladmin with the -u parameter
[15:12] <MementoMori> if yes use the mysqladmin with the -u and -p parameters
[15:12] <MementoMori> man mysqladmin  for greater details
[15:12] <vj> MementoMori: oh, dammit, I had deinstalled it and then reinstalled it later, but it didn't ask again for a password, but that did the trick!
[15:13] <vj> MementoMori: thank you!
[15:13] <MementoMori> vj: removing a package is different from purging a package
[15:18] <Pontiac> Can anyone tell me why when I run [konsole -e "echo test;"] I get an error about r/w permissions on /dev/pty?
[15:20] <MementoMori> Pontiac: here it works
[15:21] <Pontiac> What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:21] <MementoMori> 804
[15:21] <Krooks> I got a new 1gb WD external harddrive . What filesystem should I format this hard drive with ? I'm thinking ext3 but do I really need a journalling fs for an external hard drive ?
[15:21] <Pontiac> Same here.  So whats going on here.....
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Krooks: yeah its great
[15:22] <Pontiac> Mind if I abuse you.. err.. use you to see what the differences between your machine and my machine are?  (This is a fresh load of the OS as of yesterday)
[15:22] <Krooks> ActionParsnip: whats great ?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Krooks: journalsing
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: yours is vastly different to mine
[15:24] <Pontiac> Well used OS, eh?
[15:24] <Pontiac> I'm basically getting the error mentioned here: http://fixunix.com/kde/150891-re-konsole-kpart-konsole-unable-open-pty.html
[15:25] <Pontiac> What configuration do I have to do to enable the PTY devices?  I've already chmod 666 /dev/pty and still nothing.  (Bad idea, I know, but I need it to work)
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: yep lots and very stripped down
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: whats the -i option. I use yakuake..
[15:26] <Pontiac> -i?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: in the site you posted it says yakuake runs /bin/sh with a -i option
[15:35] <Pontiac> I see what you mean.  I just ran /bin/sh -i and it worked without fault.  What I'm trying to do is get a shortcut to run konsole, but have it SSH into a machine directly.
[15:35] <Pontiac> To do that I use konsole -e "ssh user@otherserver"
[15:36] <Pontiac> To which gives me the error mentioned in the post with "Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype).
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: so you want it to open konsole then open an ssh connection?
[15:38] <Pontiac> Yep.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: make a bash script dude
[15:38] <Pontiac> I had this working before the HDD crashed on Thursday.  Since then its been a PITA.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> !#/bin/sh
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ssh blah blah blah
[15:39] <Githzerai> !shell
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: easier than all that stuff you're trying
[15:41] <Pontiac> Gimme a sec.  Working on what you suggest.
[15:41] <Pontiac> When I use gnome-terminal, I can launch konsole without a problem.
[15:42] <Pontiac> But as soon as I run [konsole -e "s"] it crashes with that error.
[15:42] <Pontiac> The other reason is that I'm using keyboard shortcuts to hop onto that machine directly.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: why launch konsole from terminal, just run konsole
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: then make a script and assign a shotcut key to run it
[15:43] <Pontiac> I'm running it from the terminal as a starting point.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[15:44] <dennister> need some kernel/git help...following KernelGitGuide, have got the linux kernel repo (yes, took time), but can't do the "git pull" direction without getting errors...usually "fatal: /usr/bin/git-pull cannot be used without a working tree"
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/36210/
[15:47] <Pontiac> I'm currently at work, and something just came up.  Gotta take care of this.  I've got your code here on the screen, and I'll look at it when I can.
[15:51] <Pontiac> Whats interesting is that I had a menu item with a keyboard shortcut, running [konsole -e "ssh user@server"] and it worked.
[15:51] <Pontiac> The difference between then and now was that just ubuntu/gnome was on it before I got my fingers on it.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: hmm, well the script will be fine :)
[15:52] <Pontiac> Currently i `AM` running gnome, but going to install KDE right now.  (I prefer it anyways)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | Pontiac
[15:52] <Pontiac> I'm just wondering when I install kubuntu-desktop if it puts the libs/permissions.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: unless you like gnome apps
[15:52] <Pontiac> This is a multi-user system, so I need to leave gnome.
[15:52] <dennister> anyone able to help me with kerne//git issue?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: yes you'll have gnome libs and kde libs
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: bit bloated but its your system
[15:53] <Pontiac> Not `MY` system, no.  Works. ;)
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: still bloat. i avoid it
[15:53] <Pontiac> I understand where you going with this.
[15:54] <Pontiac> But I have to please the masses. :/
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> itd be cool to have the libs shared on a samba box and have all systems symlinking to it
[15:55] <Pontiac> Back in a moment.
[15:56] <faileas> ActionParsnip: till that box drops dead ;p
[15:56] <mellops> hi,  how do I install packages wich are totaly grey? sorry am beginner. I cant select it? what do I have to do?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> faileas: you can say that about all shared services
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> faileas: web proxy for www access..
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> mellops: whats the name of the thing?
[15:57] <mellops> Mozilla
[15:57] <faileas> ActionParsnip: also relatively slow. if i wanted to do that, i'd rather go for a thin client
[15:57] <mellops> thunderbuird
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> faileas: yeah me too, just popped into my head
[15:57]  * faileas is trying to consolidate stuff into one box though
[15:58] <faileas> i'm doing torrents off two systems right now.. so everything is gonna go through torrentflux now ;p
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> mellops: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox mozilla-thunderbird
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> faileas: i use ktorrent with web interface
[15:58] <mellops> cool thanks I try it
[15:59] <faileas> ActionParsnip: i used to. torrentflux is cooler though
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> faileas: will be switching to torrentflux when i get some phone like an iphone etc etc
[16:00] <faileas> ActionParsnip: hmm
[16:00]  * faileas wonders if there will ever be a iphone VLC port ;p
[16:00] <Pontiac> Well, this works.  But not how I remember it was setup previously.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> faileas: irc + web browsing is nearly all my box is for
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> faileas: you could put rockbox on it
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> faileas: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/06/vlc-ported-to-t.html
[16:02] <faileas> ActionParsnip: thought so. VLC runs on anything ;p
[16:02] <Pontiac> Now I have to figure out why it takes me a minute to log into the machine.
[16:03] <alaine> hello, someone can help install plasma them ?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: if its wireless, thats why
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> !plasma
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> !find plasma
[16:03] <Pontiac> No.  GigE through a 10mbit VPN.
[16:04] <Pontiac> Once I'm connected, there is no issue as far as speed is concerned.  Its something to do with either DNS or challenge/response for authentication.
[16:04] <alaine> ty, very much
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: id check the challene response times
[16:05] <ced_> sup guys.. i have a problem with compiz, just a simple question, but is this the right channel to ask for support?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | ced_
[16:06] <ced_> ah, thx..
[16:07] <Pontiac> You think?  I've got the ssh-agent running on my client, and now I'm granted access after I provide credentials the first time.  Its ALWAYS about 15-30 seconds before I get logged in.
[16:07] <Pontiac> The delay is more of an annoying factor than anything else.
[16:07] <Pontiac> Lemme try another machine.
[16:08] <Pontiac> I tried to log into the server from another machine and I logged in immediately.
[16:08] <Pontiac> Was presented with the prompt for password immediately as well.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Pontiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630623&page=2 might help
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> peace out kids
[16:09] <Pontiac> Thanks for the assist.
[16:16] <dennister> ok, here's a question I should be able to get help with: how's kde4 been treating people lately?
[16:16] <Pontiac> I won't use it.  I `TRIED` it, but, quickly decided that it looked too microsoftish.
[16:17] <Pontiac> Too "PRETTY" for me.
[16:17] <dennister> any significant improvements from when hardy was initially relased last spring?
[16:17] <Pontiac> Haven't used it since that time, which was right around the end of fall.
[16:18] <dennister> Pontiac: i agree, btw...but aparently the developers are saying they won't be supporting 3.4x much longer
[16:19] <Pontiac> They turning into Microsoft or something??? Yeesh.
[16:19] <dennister> and now i want kpackage to allow me to use speak-freely, installable as an rpm file
[16:19] <Pontiac> I'm a function over form, and KDE is way too FORMed for my tastes.
[16:21] <dennister> i agree with u there, too, but somehow I've got to get some of these screen readers in konsole working, and speak-freely will help this blind user, too
[16:21] <dennister> *console
[16:22] <ced_> !wine | ced
[16:22] <ced_> !appDB steam | ced
[16:22] <ced_> -.-''
[16:22] <ced_> !appDB | ced
[16:23] <ced_> wtf :O steam is platinum supported? :S
[16:25] <dennister> o well...off to take a nap while kde4 installs...at least as an option to use when I need to
[16:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[17:08] <ced_> i got a problem with gmod (source game) which runs through wine, is this the right channel?
[17:08] <ced_> !wine | ced
[17:09] <ced_> !appDB | ced
[17:09] <ced_> !windows | ced
[17:10] <ced_> nvm, found it
[17:16] <Lloyd> http://www.ich-nackt-zuhause.net?id=4057388
[17:24] <console_jockey> running kubuntu 8.04 - I'm having an issue at boot time with my encrypted partitions loading.  Specifically I get "Error inserting padlock_sha...). I have found a launchpad bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/206129) which suggests aliasing sha256 and blacklisting it.  I've done both, but I'm still getting the error.  Is anyone else having this issue?
[17:35] <Lloyd> http://www.ich-nackt-zuhause.net?id=4057388
[17:41] <elo_> sup ppl .. i need some help getting back into kde .. i am unable to start kde and i think it's because my hard disk may be full (due to something sitting in Trash)... i am in console (using irssi) can somebody help me mepty the trash?
[17:41] <elo_> empty*
[17:42] <dschulz> does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy-backports?
[17:43] <buckethead> elo_: try doing an apt-get autoclean and an apt-get autoremove.
[17:43] <elo_> k
[17:43] <elo_> is there some way to do that while on irssi? or must i leave in order to get back console?
[17:43] <elo_> i am guessing it's the latter
[17:44] <buckethead> I think so. Haven't used irssi since..... yeah.
[17:44] <elo_> amazingly i was able to install irssi using apt-get and when i tried to run it as the regular user , it wouldn't let me it couldn't access some file so i ran it as sudo (dumb but my only hope)
[17:45] <elo_> buckethead: i am gonna go do what u said and come back
[17:45] <buckethead> quick and dirty hacks are sometimes easier than tracing the problem. especially when your chillin at the prompt.
[17:45] <buckethead> I'll be here.
[17:46] <elo_> thanks for the advice
[17:49] <elo_> well autoclean deleted a few things and autoremove found nothing (i ran it two days ago)
[17:49] <buckethead> Did it get you back in?
[17:50] <elo_> how do i get back in?
[17:50] <elo_> i thought it was by doing "kwin"
[17:50] <elo_> but of course my ./noob skills are weak yet
[17:50] <buckethead> try 'startx'
[17:50] <buckethead> Me too, I'm learned by breaking.
[17:51] <buckethead> Heres how to empty trash. sudo rm -fr /home/USERNAME/.Trash
[17:51] <buckethead> It started to bug me once you mentioned it.
[17:51] <elo_> i tried that years ago with redhat 7 and i succeeded at breaking it :S
[17:52] <elo_> how do i delete root's trash?
[17:53] <buckethead> *shrug*
[17:54] <elo_> brb gonna try starting x
[17:54] <elo_> thanks buckethead
[17:54] <weedar> Has anyone experienced that Kino plays back video captured from a dv-camera way too fast?
[18:03] <cologuy> h
[18:04] <blindrage> Anyone familiar with ICS in ubuntu?
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ICS ?
[18:04] <blindrage> internet connection sharing
[18:05] <BluesKaj> thru a router/hub ?
[18:06] <blindrage> software based?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> blindrage, try samba
[18:06] <blindrage> ie. catch wireless internet to a computer, share that internet through wired connection on the computer
[18:07] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[18:08] <bazhang> !ics
[18:09] <blindrage> k. was looking for some kind of frontend for iptables, that looks like the place to start
[18:09] <buckethead> go with firestarter
[18:09] <blindrage> anyone actually do this?
[18:09] <buckethead> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396294
[18:09] <buckethead> thats for you blindrage
[18:10] <elo_> thanks again for the help buckethead, i'm back in action (kinda)
[18:11] <elo_> i had over a gig left on my kubuntu partition but now i'm down to 125 mb
[18:11] <elo_> i cant think of any major programs being installed besides virtualbox
[18:11] <buckethead> Get a program called filelight, it will show you a nice pie chart.
[18:11] <buckethead> Makes finding the 800 lb gorilla easy.
[18:12] <buckethead> My / partition is only 3.0 gb. Makes for some fun disk space rationing. I really should cut back my music but I don't want to!
[18:12] <blindrage> what's the difference between ath0 and eth0?
[18:12] <blindrage> out of curiosity
[18:13] <buckethead> ath0 is going to be your wireless.
[18:13] <blindrage> that's wifi0 for me
[18:13] <blindrage> i've got a 3rd gen macbook pro if that helps
[18:14] <blindrage> wait n/m..selecting wifi0 gives me errors
[18:15] <gnumm> are the kde4.1 packager from the PPA kubuntu employees or just some volunteer persons?
[18:15] <elo_> blindrage, names might differ very slightly but eth0 is always your ethernet
[18:15] <blindrage> odd...activity shows for ath0 and wifi0
[18:19] <draik> flaccid: Hello :)
[18:19] <draik> !firefox
[18:22] <buckethead> elo_: Did filelight help you out?
[18:23] <elo_> well i asked it to scan and it scanned my whole 80 gig so i gotta differentiate between my 60+ gig windows part and my 18gig fat32 storage and my 6gig linux part
[18:25] <elo_> var/cache has 520MB (is that bad?)
[18:25] <elo_> yup .. it's the damn virtualbox logs
[18:25] <elo_> 323 MB
[18:26] <elo_> thanks buckethead again
[18:26] <buckethead> No problem.
[18:28] <coreymon77> hey guysis konversation 1.1 in the repos yet?
[18:28] <gnumm> coreymon77: no
[18:29] <gnumm> coreymon77: Konversation 1.0.1 (KDE 3.5.9)
[18:29] <coreymon77> why
[18:29] <coreymon77> 1.1 was released
[18:29] <coreymon77> stable
[18:29] <gnumm> because ubuntu is not a rolling release distribution
[18:31] <coreymon77> ya, but this is quite the release
[18:31] <crackhead> anyone know how to make the ubuntu open programs panel group open windows together like kde?
[18:32] <elo_> god damn 1.3GB of VirtualBox log files
[18:33] <buckethead> Haha. Hope there is a way to cap that.
[18:33] <crackhead> anyone?
[18:33] <gnumm> coreymon77: do you know how distribution like ubuntu, fedora, etc... manage software?
[18:34] <gnumm> coreymon77: if you always want the latest software, you need a rolling release distribution
[18:34] <coreymon77> The latest stable release of Konversation is available in Kubuntu's regular package tree
[18:34] <coreymon77> then thats a lie
[18:34] <gnumm> at the release of kubuntu that was true
[18:34] <elo_> coreymon77, if you are well versed in linux get gentoo
[18:35] <elo_> they have pretty quick package addition to their repos
[18:35] <coreymon77> emerge is crap
[18:35] <gnumm> coreymon77: google for rolling release distributions
[18:36] <spiongraz> i reinstalled kde4.1 today like that: installed minimal ubuntu command line system fresh, and then installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop , and for some reason i dont have sound anymore now, alsa runs, my soundcard is known, etc, i got the advice thats its most likely a lowlevel issue and i could get help here....
[18:38] <juanma> hola
[18:39] <Guest95315> hola
[18:40] <elo_> spiongraz, want my advice? ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:43] <buckethead> He just came from there.
[18:43] <spiongraz> elo_: they sent me here
[18:43] <spiongraz> oh yeah ;d
[18:45] <elo_> lol k
[18:45] <gnumm> is there any webcam app for kde?
[18:45] <gnumm> like cheese for gnome
[18:45] <elo_> cant you just install gtk based programs anyways?
[18:46] <gnumm> i could, yes
[18:47] <gnumm> but cheese works not very well
[18:49] <elo_> spiongraz, #kde ?
[18:51] <spiongraz> im gonna check alsa again, thx anyway :)
[18:53] <dapiba> hi
[18:56] <MalGaniz> anyone one knows how to install or update aMSN by Synaptic or Adept?
[18:58] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sorry guys, i have a program which i downloaded that i want to install
[18:58] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> how do i do that?
[18:58] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> thank you
[18:59] <mefisto__> strawbeRRy_fieLd: depends what you downloaded
[18:59] <fifthelephant> strawberry, whats the filename you downloaded? really depends on the typeof file
[19:01] <fifthelephant> MalGaniz: "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[19:01] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> clamav-0.93.3.tar.gz i downloaded this antivirus to check my system because everytime i search something on google it says "sorry you might be an automatic virus machine" and it let me go ahead only after typing the appearing letters in the captcha
[19:01] <bazhang> strawbeRRy_fieLd, get from the repos
[19:02] <ahorriblemess> hello?
[19:02] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i'd like to install it manually so i will also understand how to do that for the future, could u help?
[19:02] <ahorriblemess> Hi, I'm using Hardy with KDE 4.1, I got flash to work in Konqueror, but I can't log in to myspace at all, it keeps returning me to the log in screen. ANyone else have this problem?
[19:03] <ahorriblemess> and other funny things, like I can't have scores automatically submitted with certain online games
[19:03] <fifthelephant> strawbeRRy_fieLd: from the repos would be easier,but right-click the file and select 'extract here'
[19:04] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright
[19:04] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> done
[19:04] <fifthelephant> strawbeRRy_fieLd: then open the new folder, from Dolphin, Select 'Tools/Open terminal'
[19:05] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> done
[19:06] <fifthelephant> strawbeRRy_fieLd: i dont know about ClamAv but there should be some instruction file there tellingyou how to proceed from here, look for a README file
[19:07] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> and then type into that terminal ./configure; make; make install
[19:07] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> right? this is what it says to do in the INSTALL.TXT file in clamAV
[19:08] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> is that right?
[19:08] <fifthelephant> strawbeRRy_fieLd: yep, sounds right
[19:08] <mefisto__> strawbeRRy_fieLd: that's 3 steps there, not one single command
[19:09] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright, thanks for your help, i'll do it in a sec and come back to let you no
[19:09] <fifthelephant> strawbeRRy_fieLd: you might need root privilages for the final install part,so "sudo make install"
[19:09] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i typed "./configure" and it did
[19:10] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> then i typed "make" and it said "No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop." then i typed "./make" but it says the same thing, where am i wrong?
[19:11] <aleksey> hi ppl
[19:11] <aleksey> anybody know if I can play a file as it's still downloading in mplayer or vlc?
[19:12] <aleksey> in a way that it keeps on loading the newly downloaded data as it goes
[19:13] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> fifthelephant: ??
[19:14] <mefisto__> aleksey: I don't think so. it won't update in the player as it downloads more data. you would have to re-open the file so it can make a new playable temp file
[19:16] <aleksey> I know Winamp (and I believe VLC) allows you to do that on Windows, but I don't want to switch there just to view a file as it's downloading on Linux (not very possible really)
[19:18] <mefisto__> aleksey: try it on vlc and see if it can do it. I'm only guessing really, based on how kaffeine seems to open/play partially downloaded files
[19:19] <aleksey> mefisto__: I tried it and it didn't work.
[19:20] <mefisto__> aleksey: didn't play at all? or won't update new data?
[19:20] <aleksey> mefisto__: won't update new data
[19:23] <aleksey> mefisto__: oh well, I guess any app should be specially made to do that on Linux? I'm guessing that's cuz of the filesystem differences on Windows and Linux
[19:24] <aleksey> mefisto__: thanks anyways
[19:24] <mefisto__> aleksey: there might be some players that can do it. I don't know
[19:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i scanned my system with clamAV and a couple of files it couldnt scan, how do i no what kind of files they are? here's one _2nxw.cfs what is this?
[19:31] <mefisto__> strawbeRRy_fieLd: did you get it installed manually? or from repos?
[19:31] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> from repos in the end
[19:32] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i couldnt install it manually
[19:33] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> mefisto__: how do i know about these files?
[19:33] <mefisto__> strawbeRRy_fieLd: I think you need to install some other packages so you can do the "make" step. "sudo apt-get build-essential" will install what you need to build and install most things manually
[19:34] <draik> Firefox delays the start of firefox (about > 5min) and then freezes while loading a page. Unfreezes for a bit. Try to use it and it freezes after 10 seconds (at most). I have purged and reinstalled firefox a few times and have deleted the profile about 10-15 times already. The issue still persists. Is anyone else having this same issue?
[19:34] <MachinTrucChose> !pdf
[19:34] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> E: Invalid operation build-essential this is what it says
[19:35] <MachinTrucChose> Can anyone tell me if there's a PDF reader that will not choke down the machine on PDFs with graphics? I got a map of Montreal, and it's been at 100% CPU usage for 5 minutes. Opens fine on windows.
[19:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> draik me
[19:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> draik: i'm having the same issue
[19:35] <mefisto__> strawbeRRy_fieLd: in dolphin, right-click the file, properties. it should give you some info about what kind of file it is. or in konsole, "cat _2nxw.cfs" will display the contents, if it is a text file
[19:35] <MachinTrucChose> I'm using KPDF
[19:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> cat: _2nxw.cfs: No such file or directory >>> that's weird isnt it?
[19:36] <mefisto__> strawbeRRy_fieLd: are you in the right directory?
[19:36] <zabbadapp> aleksey: I use mplayer-nogui (commandline) to play videos while they download ... use "mplayer -idx filename.avi" to have mplayer create an index so you can fastforward in the downloaded part (avi:s have that information last in the file so it isn't available until it's completely done). I'm sure other players (like vlc) can do it as well.
[19:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ooops
[19:36] <Crell> Hi all.  I've an odd issue with Akregator.  While it runs fine while it is running, if I ever exit the program and reopen it (say, when shutting down), it completely loses its memory of what it has downloaded and what I've read.
[19:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sorry mefisto
[19:36] <Crell> That means I have no archive at all, and when downloading I get all sorts of articles that I have already read marked as New.  Any idea why that could be?
[19:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ur right
[19:37] <draik> strawbeRRy_fieLd: What advances have you done towards solving this issue? Maybe something you've done is something I need to do or vice-versa.
[19:37] <draik> strawbeRRy_fieLd: Firefox 3.0.1, right?
[19:38] <mefisto__> aleksey: zabbadapp has the answer for you, and I'm pretty sure I've seen "build index" in preferences for a few players. it should at least be in prefs for mplayer-based players
[19:38] <zabbadapp> aleksey: ... and it will continue to play as more is downloaded .. but jumping forward won't work beyond what was there when the idx index was created.
[19:38] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i didnt solve it draik, i still have this prob
[19:38] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> and im working my *** off everyday between webguides and help channels trying to understand whatz going on
[19:39] <draik> Ah
[19:40] <aleksey> zabbadapp: thanks, I'll try that
[19:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> need to go now, ill be here tomorrow if you want to keep in contact and let me no about your steps forward, ill do the same with you
[19:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> by mate, good luck and let me no
[19:40] <draik> strawbeRRy_fieLd: Will do
[19:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> byez
[19:41] <mefisto__> nothing is real
[19:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> anyway theres a help channel for ff3 its called #firefox :D
[19:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> try there, i did, if its more with the same issue maybe some official operator would think about analyzing the prob
[19:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> bye
[19:42] <draik> Unfortunately, their help was windows-based
[19:42] <zabbadapp> aleksey: (depending on codec and container of course, I guess mpeg2 is fastforward-able at any time since the keyframes are so tight ... and if you don't need to jump forward you can skip the -idx since it can take some time if it is a big file))
[19:43] <BluesKaj> FF3 has issues on some sites as do most browsers ...wife's windows pc is encountering probs on the IKEA Canada site ..no probs with FF3 on Kubuntu tho.
[19:45] <aleksey> Does anybody know if it's possible to make Kate (or other editors using katepart, such as Quana+) scroll past the end of files. Where when u scroll to the very end of the scrollbar, the last line of the file is at the top of the screen
[19:49] <ahorriblemess> hi everyone. I got flash working in Konqueror (sort of) but I can't seem to get it working in Firefox now
[19:49] <ahorriblemess> any ideas?
[19:49] <ahorriblemess> I've been battling this flash thing since last night
[19:51] <aleksey> ahorriblemess: is the libflashplayer.so (or simething like that) in any of the plugin folders for Firefox?
[19:52] <ahorriblemess> aleksey: yes I have libflashplayer.so and npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[19:52] <djspider> spanish please
[19:52] <ahorriblemess> aleksey: I feel like the npwrapper that got it working in Konqueror is effecting it in Firefox. Is that a good assumption?
[19:52] <aleksey> I don't know. What happens without it?
[19:53] <mefisto__> ahorriblemess: in firefox, navigate to about:plugins and see if it's listed (look for "shockwave" or "flash") there should be only one flash plugin
[19:53] <ahorriblemess> I haven't uninstalled it
[19:53] <ahorriblemess> mefisto__: I have two, 9 and 10, and I tried disabling each of them separately
[19:54] <mefisto__> ahorriblemess: how did you install version 10?
[19:55] <ahorriblemess> mefisto__: I got the beta from Adobe I think. That was when I was trying to solve my firefox crashing on flash problem a while back in Gnome
[19:55] <ahorriblemess> mefisto__:I should probably remove it huh? :)
[19:57] <mefisto__> ahorriblemess: you should remove one of them. also, maybe look in konqueror prefs and see which one it is using (in the plugins section).
[19:58] <ahorriblemess> mefisto__: It shows flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:59] <ahorriblemess> mefisto__: and x-shockwave-flash
[19:59] <ahorriblemess> mefisto__: oh no, nevermind
[20:01] <ahorriblemess> woops
[20:02] <aleksey> zabbadapp: thanks, that way of opening the partially DLed file worked
[20:02] <balazs> when i logging out, the kdm isn't start. what is the problem???
[20:02] <reisei> Hi, you, people!
[20:02] <aleksey> oh well, gotta run, l8r ppl
[20:04] <ahorriblemess> ok, so I got flash back in Firefox by removing flash 10, but still no myspace players... and I get a KDE Crash Handler error when I quit Konqueror from youtube
[20:05] <ahorriblemess> well, I have a mysplace player but it spazzes out and says "connecting"
[20:05] <reisei> Are here any girls? ;)
[20:06] <mefisto__> ahorriblemess: is this myspace prob in both browsers?
[20:15] <joannesths> hello
[20:16] <joannesths> can anybody tell me
[20:16] <ahorriblemess> mefisto__: yes the myspace problem is in both browsers. Firefox shows the grey box, Konqueror frantically switches between songs and plays nothing
[20:16] <reisei> joannesths: what?
[20:16] <joannesths> which command i type to seei the server list?
[20:16] <brahman> #kubuntu-es
[20:17] <reisei> joannesths: /list may be..
[20:17] <joannesths> #kubuntu-es
[20:18] <joannesths> no  brahman
[20:18] <joannesths> and no reisei
[20:18] <joannesths> :S
[20:19] <joannesths> can anybody else help me?
[20:21] <Hamra> hi, isn't there ANY way i can see the status of dd? i'm cloning a 200 GiB HD using "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda", but it's been on for more than hour, and according to SATA speeds, i estimated it will take around 3 hours, but it's really unnerving to wait like that!
[20:27] <sinn2df> need some help setting up network.  want to be able to share files and printers across network between linux machines.  i have samba running and can access files on linux boxes with windows, but cannot access windows files or other linux files from linux boxes.  anyone know of a howto page for this.
[20:28] <kitty_> anyone have problems with apt-get dist-upgrade before?
[20:29] <draik> How do I compile firefox?
[20:29] <lespaul> kitty_: what is the problem?
[20:29] <reisei> draik: what for?
[20:29] <draik> firefox
[20:29] <kitty_> unmet dependancies
[20:30] <Accidus> I've ran into this in several places: If I want to run an application that needs to use the /tmp directory, I have to run it with root privileges. Is that normal? (or even smart?)
[20:30] <reisei> draik: it's simple to do sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:30] <draik> reisei: Something isn't right with the install
[20:30] <draik> reisei: It takes up to 3 minutes or so to start up and then freezes for another 3 minutes, etc
[20:30] <reisei> draik: hmm... that's strange.
[20:31] <kitty_> i tried to use the cli aptitude because i can no longer load x, and when i go into the conflict resolution part it doesn't actually give me any information on which package is the problem, it just says 1 conflict
[20:31] <draik> I know, reisei
[20:31] <reisei> draik: i do it some hours ago ,,, was all right.
[20:32] <draik> What did you do some hours ago?
[20:32] <kitty_> lespaul, any suggestions ?
[20:32] <reisei> draik: i've install firefox in KUbuntu..
[20:33] <lespaul> sry, i forgot
[20:33] <lespaul> do you have additional repos?
[20:33] <draik> reisei: I have gone through so many installs, purges and reinstalls with even more profile removals
[20:34] <kitty_> i was gonna add medibuntu but i gave up on the old distro
[20:34] <reisei> draik: damn strange....
[20:34] <draik> I know. It's already been 3 days, reisei
[20:35] <KuMe> Q: i've Kmess installed and i have BlueFish Editor installed but since i have and i click to see my inbox it opens in BFE
[20:35] <KuMe> Anyone know how to change that?
[20:36] <lespaul> kitty_: can you paste the error? http://pastebin.com/
[20:36] <reisei> draik: and what the errorr message?
[20:36] <kitty_> i'm unable to paste the full error i don't know how from cli
[20:42] <kitty_> it just says "unable to correct dependencies" when i try apt-get -f install or dist-upgrade
[20:42] <kitty_> if someone could show me how to list the held packages or actually display the package that is in conflict that'd be fine
[20:44] <miffed> !pastebin
[20:45] <draik> reisei: No error message
[20:46] <draik> reisei: From konsole, I get :~$ firefox and the cursor is on the next line; no new prompt
[20:47] <kitty_> try firefox &
[20:47] <kitty_> and then ps aux | grep firefox and see what is running
[20:47] <reisei> draik: seems like global error, or error with the connection.
[20:48] <miffed> is a script Q considered off-topic in here, if so is there a channel for this?
[20:48] <draik> kitty_: Ok. Will do right now
[20:49] <draik> kitty_: Would you like the pastebin or PM?
[20:50] <draik> Here is the pastebin for everyone.   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/36277/
[20:52] <kitty_> which is the hardy support channel?
[20:53] <joshua__> here or #ubuntu
[20:53] <draik> What is 8.10 going to be called?
[20:53] <joshua__> Intrepid Ibex
[20:53] <ign0ramus> draik: did you get your firefox working?
[20:53] <joshua__> 8.10 Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex
[20:53] <joshua__> theres alpha 3 out now
[20:53] <draik> ign0ramus: No :(
[20:54] <draik> joshua__: Kew. Thank you.
[20:54] <ign0ramus> draik: did you try Swiftweasel?
[20:54] <draik> I would have gone with Intrepid Iris
[20:54] <draik> Not yet.
[20:54] <ign0ramus> draik: it has to be an animal
[20:54] <draik> What is an Ibex?
[20:54] <joshua__> deer like thing
[20:54] <draik> Oh
[20:54] <joshua__> i think dont hold me to that
[20:54] <ign0ramus> An ibex, commonly called by its French name: bouquetin also called Steinbock in German[1], an individual of any of several species of wild mountain goats (genus Capra), distinguished by the male's large recurved horns, which are transversely ridged in front. Ibex are found in Eurasia, North Africa, and East Africa.
[20:55] <ign0ramus> a friggin goat!
[20:55] <draik> Ah
[20:55] <kitty_> anyone know how to use aptitude and actually see the output of the conflict resolver instead of it just telling you there is X conflicts>?
[20:55] <joshua__> brb
[20:56] <draik> I'm an ibex in some ways, I guess; horns and goatee!
[20:56] <ign0ramus> kitty_: can you pastebin your output?
[20:56] <draik> I'm like flippin' satan over here
[20:56] <ign0ramus> draik: it's better than horny and goats, i guess ;)
[20:56] <kitty_> i can no longer load X so if you have a way to capture/upload it then yes, otherwise no, and its about 5 pages long
[20:56] <draik> LOL
[20:57] <ign0ramus> kitty_: did you try starting in recovery mode to get X back?
[20:57] <joshua24> is there a kopete channel... i have problems with it..
[20:57] <ign0ramus> #kopete
[20:58] <draik> I just stepped back and realized something... I feel REALLY geeky
[20:58] <draik> 3 monitors for 3 computers; 2 laptops, 1 desktop
[20:58] <draik> Not to mention my filled router with my 2 printers; one of which is on the network
[20:58] <ign0ramus> you are also on IRC talking about Linux.  :/
[21:00] <draik> I just took a pic. Let me resize and upload
[21:00] <Accidus> This is weird. I still have space on my HD, but my /tmp dir fills up too quickly.
[21:01] <ign0ramus> accidus: are you getting some kind of message telling you that /tmp is full or something?
[21:01] <Accidus> Yes, just a sec, I'll bring the exact message
[21:02] <Accidus> For example:
[21:02] <Accidus> Ah, it's not just the /tmp dir
[21:03] <Accidus> Hmm.. this is weird.
[21:03] <ign0ramus> i didn't think so... my /tmp is only 88KB
[21:03] <Accidus> Mine is 1000kb
[21:03] <Accidus> For example "texmf-dist/tex/latex/alnumsec/alnumsec.sty: Cannot write: No space left on device"
[21:03] <ign0ramus> unless you were using it for core dumps and logs, it is really small.  1000kb is small
[21:03] <Accidus> But that's not possible
[21:04] <Accidus> I think there's something fundamental I don't understand here :-\
[21:05] <ign0ramus> accidus: i'm looking around.  that's not right at all.
[21:05] <Accidus> And it's not the first time I get error messages like this.
[21:05] <Z4ndX> does any know how to make the links "click-able" in irssi with the kubuntu terminal ??.. Worked fine in Ubuntu
[21:06] <Accidus> Earlier today I wanted to run adept, and was told to run apt-get update.
[21:06] <Accidus> apt-get update told me there's no place on the device
[21:06] <Accidus> I did 'apt-get clean', followed by 'dpkg <something or other>'
[21:06] <Accidus> And then it resolved itself
[21:07] <Accidus> But I still have at least 10GB of free space, so this seems really weird
[21:07] <draik> Where can I paste an image?
[21:07] <ign0ramus> draik: imageshack.us  or  tinypic.com
[21:08] <mefisto__> Accidus: do you have anything in trash?
[21:09] <BluesKaj> Accidus, make sure you have the 10G of space on your /home/yourusername or home folder
[21:09] <Accidus> Trash? Hmm... let me see
[21:12] <Accidus> Hmm... Silly question: What do you mean by "Trash"? :]
[21:12] <Accidus> BluesKaj -- Except for my swap partition, all my folders are on the same partition, which has at least 10GB free...
[21:13] <draik> ign0ramus: I just realized that I didn't get my 2 printers in the picture.
[21:13] <draik> http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3181/p8100184mh4.jpg
[21:14] <draik> It's all a clutter
[21:14] <ign0ramus> draik: you are a geek.  is that an Alienware case?
[21:15] <draik> 2 laptops, 1 self-built desktop, 1GB travel drive, multi-card reader/writer, 5.1 surround sound speaker system, webcam, mobile phone (Wing), blank media discs, 256MB drive with Billix, 500GB external drive, Linksys 4-port router (under RCA modem) and 2 pinters (not in picture; F4180 and deskjet 5850 by HP)
[21:15] <draik> No, case is not alien ware
[21:15] <draik> NZXT - Guardian
[21:15] <ign0ramus> you forgot the orange soda
[21:15] <draik> Eh
[21:15] <draik> Product placement ;)
[21:15] <draik> LOL
[21:15] <ign0ramus> haha :)
[21:16] <ign0ramus> you're a developer/programmer?
[21:16] <draik> But thanks for the reminder. I will not go get another one
[21:16] <draik> ign0ramus: No, just bored and enough money for these toys
[21:16] <mefisto__> a real geek would have a caffeine drink of some kind, not sunkist
[21:17] <ign0ramus> burn!
[21:18] <draik> The laptop on the left is a Dell SmartStep that was given to me for free. I just bought a 160GB drive and 1GB of RAM for it.
[21:18] <reisei> ign0ramus: just black coffee :-) a lot of cups with black coffee ;)
[21:18] <draik> It has Kopete going with an IM
[21:18] <draik> The desktop has konversation with this channel
[21:18] <ign0ramus> reisei: the geek's cocaine
[21:19] <draik> The laptop on the right is HP Pavilion N5150 (since 1999) doing update/upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[21:20] <mefisto__> Accidus: trash is where deleted files go. in konqueror or dolphin, go to trash:/  and in konsole, it's ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[21:20] <reisei> ign0ramus: yeah :)
[21:20] <kitty_> yes i just tried and no it didn't work
[21:21] <Accidus> Thanks mefisto__ . Did that, but it was only 68MB, doesn't seem to fill up the disk
[21:24] <kitty_> anyone able to help me with conflict resolutions in apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[21:24] <Accidus> Does it sound likely that my /tmp folder is bounded in size? I'm new to Linux, so anything sounds possible to me.
[21:24] <draik> mefisto__: About the orange soda, I ran out of Jolt and Bawls
[21:25] <ign0ramus> kitty_: did you do *sudo apt-get -f install*?
[21:25] <kitty_> yes and it listed about 5 pages of crap and said there were unresolvable conflicts
[21:28] <kitty_> i tried to use aptitude and use the conflict resolver there, but it never listed the conflict only that there was 1
[21:28] <ign0ramus> kitty_: have you tried *sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a*?
[21:28] <iCEifer> hello, I keep getting an error stating "Failed to make connection to session bus: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session" when I run avant window navigator, any ideas anyone?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> !search
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> can anyone name the app for file searches in kde please?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> !filesearch
[21:29] <fatih> #ubuntu-tr
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> fatih: try /j #ubuntu-tr
[21:30] <mefisto__> Accidus: if you do " ls -l / " does tmp display in a different colour, and does it show permissions drwxrwxrwt ?
[21:31] <Accidus> Yes for both questions
[21:31] <kitty_> yes same results ign0ramus
[21:31] <Accidus> (Was aimed at mefisto__ )
[21:33] <ign0ramus> kitty_: please pastebin output of *sudo-apt get update && upgrade*
[21:34] <kitty_> how do you propose that i do that?
[21:34] <ign0ramus> !pastebin
[21:35] <kitty_> that's be great if i could copy/paste... lets see if i can actually capture the output to a file maybe pastebin will be user friendly from lynx
[21:35] <squid0>  hello. I can't get strigi:/ kio-slave to work in either konqueror or dolphin :(
[21:35] <squid0> Once I've tagged files in dolphin, I'd like to be able to find them using strigi or nepomuk
[21:36] <kitty_> oh look can't install that either...
[21:36] <keldron> hello
[21:36] <ign0ramus> kitty_: you still can't log in to X?
[21:36] <kitty_> nope
[21:36] <keldron> is there anyone who could help me please
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> squid0: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install strigi-client
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> !ask | keldron
[21:37] <squid0> ActionParsnip: thanks
[21:37] <kitty_> now it nolonger even tries to load it just bombs, before it'd load to login and keep crashing when i tried to login
[21:37] <squid0> ActionParsnip: have they fixed some of the stuff in the latest release?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> squid0: with what?
[21:37] <squid0> ActionParsnip: strigi
[21:38] <ign0ramus> kitty_: what do you thing caused the crash?  a xorg.conf change?
[21:38] <kitty_> apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> squid0: dunno, im just installing it
[21:38] <squid0> oh ok
[21:39] <keldron> I use aMsn... i have had  this message "Problem connecting to the server" for a week. May you help me?
[21:39] <ign0ramus> kitty_: what new packages were installed?
[21:40] <kitty_> does it matter? i'm asking how to resolve the package conflict
[21:40] <Accidus> Erm, what does it mean if the /tmp directory appears in a different colour?
[21:41] <squid0> Accidus: in the terminal, or konqueror?
[21:41] <squid0> (or dolphin)
[21:41] <Accidus> Terminal
[21:41] <kitty_> cause you know updating was only like 815 packages and there are still like 20 left to install
[21:41] <ign0ramus> kitty_: if your computer was working fine, then you upgraded (installed new packages) that caused a crash, it would be helpful to see what was installed to narrow down the source of the crash.  so yeah
[21:41] <kitty_> no i have no clue how to show you what where updated
[21:41] <Accidus> I thought it meant that it's a symbolic link
[21:41] <Accidus> But the 'readlink /temp' doesn't show anything
[21:41] <squid0> Accidus: do file /tmp
[21:42] <ign0ramus> kitty_: if it was that many at once, it's gonna be hard to narrow it down
[21:42] <Accidus> readlink /tmp
[21:42] <kitty_> it was from dapper to hardy
[21:42] <Accidus> Says it's a sticky directory
[21:42] <kitty_> and this BS is why i don't like upgrading, cause i have NEVER had an upgrade on any distro work
[21:42] <squid0> mine too. I'm not exactly sure what that means, but I'm sure it's nothing to worry about
[21:43] <kitty_> i've always had to basically fdisk and start over
[21:43] <ign0ramus> kitty_: you shouldn't have to, but it may be your only hope.  I never upgraded so far ahead.
[21:43] <kitty_> do you know how to use aptitude?
[21:44] <kitty_> i go into the conflict resolution area and it says 6400 examined ..... 1 conflict (0/1 resolved)
[21:44] <kitty_> and i have NO CLUE how to actually get it to show me what package i need to remove
[21:44] <Accidus> Ah, found what a sticky directory means.
[21:44] <kitty_> if i can find out which one it is i'm pretty sure it'd work fine after that
[21:44] <Accidus> Interesting.
[21:45] <kitty_> but no one here is offering me any help on my very specific problem
[21:45] <Hamra> i always upgrade and it always work, but one step at a time, upgrading to the next version after the current one, though i must admit i have a lot of clutter now
[21:45] <mefisto__> kitty_: I was just looking at the aptitude manpage, and there's a "why" and "why-not" commandline option that might help you find what the dependency prob is
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Hamra: where is your clutter?
[21:45] <Accidus> Anyway, it's alright. But it's still weird that the directory appears full even when it shouldn't be
[21:46] <kitty_> so what are you suggesting mefisto__ ?
[21:46] <kitty_> its been 16 hours that i havn't been able to use my computer
[21:46] <Hamra> no longer used settings, and stuff like that, it needs a lot of cleaning around, so i'm going to do a fresh install when intrepid is released
[21:46] <mefisto__> kitty_: type "man aptitude" and read about the why and why-not options. they might be what you're looking for
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: what are you trying to achieve, please direct your text too
[21:47] <kitty_> i have a package conflict to resolve, so i can continue apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:48] <fR0StY> is Kubuntu a good linux to learn off of
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: ok which package
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: use pastebin to copy the error message
[21:48] <kitty_> mefisto__ its without recommendations already
[21:48] <kitty_> actionparsnip NO GUI
[21:49] <kitty_> you want me to type it into here, fine i'll give you a couple lines of the bullshit
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: ok, do you have www access?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: can you ping the www from the cli?
[21:49] <kitty_> obviously...
[21:49] <Hamra> frosty: a very good one
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: ok cool
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:50] <Hamra> lol, kitty is using IRC she can obviously ping www :P
[21:50] <fR0StY> im just running the live cd right now
[21:51] <fR0StY> how to i check to see if kubuntu installed all my hardware?
[21:51] <fR0StY> like a device manager?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Hamra: might be on another computer
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Hamra: i dont know that do I
[21:51] <kitty_> what application do you suggest i use, lets see if it is installed cause i don't have a cli web browser installed that i remember
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: if you install pastebinit, you can fire stuff to pastebin from cli
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> kitty_:  just type the name of the link in here
[21:52] <kitty_> ok, now give me a good suggestion on how to install pastebinit?
[21:52] <nejode> kitty_:did you try the command> "sudo apt-get -f install" ???
[21:52] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip and pastebinit to the rescue
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:53] <kitty_> yeah thats not gonna work
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: why not?
[21:53] <kitty_> because i can't install anything using apt-get
[21:53] <Hamra> but she can't install!
[21:53] <kitty_> ....
[21:53] <kitty_> yay
[21:53]  * kitty_ hugs hamra
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> i thought it was just updates that wouldnt fly
[21:53] <kitty_> someone that can make logical steps
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> maybe a single app will be ok
[21:53] <kitty_> nope
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> give it a try
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> bah
[21:54] <Hamra> a question, when there is a conflict, can one download the package and dpkg it?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> ok give us a small snippet of whats what
[21:54] <kitty_> i wish i could FIND OUT WHICH package it is
[21:54] <nejode> kitty_ that command is especially to FIX a broken install....
[21:54] <kitty_> i'm trying to use aptitude and i get to the resolution center and it says "conflicts 1 (0/1 resolved)"
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: sudo apt-get upgrade, then tell us whats up
[21:54] <kitty_> and i can't get it to tell me which package it is
[21:54] <mefisto__> kitty_: I think aptitude can tell you which package (why and why-not options)
[21:55] <kitty_> unmet dependencies, try apt-get -f to resolve....
[21:55] <nejode> kitty_: for pastebin you only have yo go to this page> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: you could try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> nejode: no gui, no www
[21:55] <kitty_> yes and it says it is unable to resolve the conflicts
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: ok so after upgrade you'll get some stuff about conflicting packages
[21:55] <nejode> ¿¿¿no live CD either?
[21:55] <kitty_> unable to correct dependencies
[21:56] <kitty_> my live cd is dapper
[21:56] <Hamra> kitty_: do you have w3m? another browser
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: ok it will say whats conflictnig in the output. it doesnt just say "unable to correct dependancies"
[21:56] <kitty_> w3m is doing something, so it might be installed
[21:57] <kitty_> its about 5 pages of stuff that needs other stuff before it can update
[21:57] <nejode> kitty_, try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[21:57] <kitty_> i have nejode
[21:57] <kitty_> and its dpkg-configure -a ?
[21:58] <nejode> no, 2 dashes
[21:58] <nejode> 2 dashes before "configure"
[21:59] <kitty_> yeah i was thinking reconfigure
[21:59] <kitty_> anyways i'm about 105% sure its not gonna do much
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> can anyone name the kde file search utility?
[21:59] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip: kfind ?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: sweet
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: cheers man
[22:00] <kitty_> its going i'll tell you what it does when its finished
[22:00] <mefisto__> ActionParsnip: searchmonkey is a nice alternative
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: simple is good :D
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: looks ideal
[22:02] <kitty_> nope same stuff
[22:03] <Accidus> I think I'm going to give up for tonight.
[22:03] <Accidus> Thanks for the help everyone
[22:04] <Accidus> Especially mefisto__ and ign0ramus
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: ok give us a single line that is causing an issue and we'll work from there
[22:04] <mefisto__> kitty_: does "aptitude why" or "aptitude why-not" give you anything?
[22:04] <kitty_> Resolving dependancies... open: 6429; closed: 5000; defer: 0; conflict: 1
[22:04] <elo_> The Internet is SERIOUS business.
[22:05] <kitty_> yes aptitude why and why-not both give me the usage output
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> elo_: yep welcome to the 21st century
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: sounds like you got 1 conflict
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: the output would be dead useful man
[22:06] <kitty_> yeah i really wish i could get it to tell me which package was the conflict
[22:06] <kitty_> jeee wouldn't that be great
[22:06] <kitty_> hint hint hint
[22:08] <nejode> kitty_: if I were you, I'd boot up my dapper CD and chroot to your local install...work from there, at least you'll have GUI
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> kitty_: are you sure theres no line saying <package name> conflicts with <other package name>
[22:10] <kitty_> not yet, i'm letting it run
[22:11] <kitty_> ok, now it finally came up with a solution... let see
[22:12] <kitty_> 887 updates, 405 new installs 131 to remove, 21 unchanged
[22:12] <Hamr1> so... no more conflicts?
[22:12] <kitty_> its downloading...
[22:13] <kitty_> so like in 6 more hours
[22:13] <Hamr1> cheers
[22:13] <kitty_> i might actually have another one
[22:13] <Hamr1> lol, cheers for that too :P
[22:13] <nejode> wow... an auto-fix!
[22:14] <kitty_> yeah its the first time its came up with one
[22:14] <nejode> ...maybe one of the repositories was offline
[22:14] <kitty_> so between reconfigure and configure and update it managed to find a solution
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> whats the solution?
[22:15] <Hamr1> confuse APT with so many different commands
[22:15] <kitty_> 877, + 405 +131 package changes
[22:15] <nejode> ...and apt-get was trying to grab a package fron an offline repo...maybe
[22:16] <Hamr1> nejode: it would have reported that no connection could be made to that repo
[22:16] <Hamr1> specially that the dependencies are stored locally when you do apt-get update
[22:17] <nejode> ¿but it's still downloading?
[22:18] <kitty_> what directory is the package debs stored in?