[04:49] <fisch246> alright so i was thinking we just have the release party to be just about getting to know each other
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> Sounds good - that's what h00k's Superior one was - just hanging out and having fun over eats.
[04:50] <Takyoji1> Are all the installfests on ubuntu-minnesota.org or?
[04:51] <Takyoji1> I only noticed one
[04:51] <Takyoji1> And none of them are on the Google Calendar
[04:51] <fisch246> Takyoji1: well there's only 1 cause i was the only one motivated enough to post one on there :/
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji1: um, yeah - we've kind of sucked about putting things up places.
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> but yeah, there's only one up right now.
[04:51]  * tonyyarusso wonders if the web site is properly producing an ics
[04:51] <Takyoji1> of which isn't Penguins Unbound, or?
[04:52] <fisch246> i didn't even know there was a google calender >.>
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> PU should be on there, but nobody's bothered to look up the details and enter it yet :)
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> fisch246: we used that before the new web site, but the new web site should be able to make it's own calendar
[04:52] <fisch246> ah
[04:52] <Takyoji1> Because I was just looking today, especially considering about my potential location which now isn't possible. xP
[04:53] <fisch246> well anyway... i was hoping to have at least the metro area motivated and doing something by ubuntu 12.04
[04:54] <Takyoji1> I guess I'll see if the Faribault community center would permit hosting an installfest, only issue is internet, unless if all the packages could be available on a cache server
[04:54] <Takyoji1> I suppose I'll try it tomorrow
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji1: You can use this URL in Google Calendar or other apps:  http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/event/ical/all/all
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> I'm not sure what the /all/all part means right now.
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> fisch246: your event appears to lack a end time also
[04:55] <fisch246> yea i know
[04:55] <fisch246> doesn't have one... kind of the point...
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> looks to work without the all/all
[04:55] <fisch246> however you have to RSVP to show up...
[04:56] <Takyoji1> So yea, I went to a local computer repair store today, checked if they'd be would be able to assist any clients of mine that I'd defer to them (such as an option of basic support, or even simple hardware) and they seemed very uninterested and "there's not enough demand"
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> fisch246: it makes it look funny when people are importing it to scheduling apps.
[04:56] <fisch246> ah
[04:56] <fisch246> mmk
[04:56] <fisch246> i'll make the end time be 8 then
[04:57] <Takyoji1> Anyway; I suppose I'll start working on mnopensource.org finally, which I intend on being a directory of retailers, tech support, individuals, and so on that would be comfortable with having Linux user customers.
[04:58] <Takyoji1> I'm curious if anyone has input on such
[04:58] <fisch246> there :P
[04:58] <fisch246> o?
[04:58] <fisch246> keep me updated on that
[04:58] <fisch246> i might mention the site in my blog
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji1: sounds useful to me
[04:59] <Takyoji1> I'll have it as something that all of us can contribute to
[04:59] <Takyoji1> So like, it wouldn't be rubber stamp of "Walmart in general can help you with Linux-supported hardware!" when it would only be specific ones. xP
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> I can put my note about who to ask for at Qwest on there.
[05:00] <fisch246> i'm tempted to grab people apart of our LoCo team and start driving around, and pitched "System 76" to all the stores
[05:00] <fisch246> s/pitched/start pitching
[05:02] <Takyoji1> What categories should I have? Printers, networking (such as wireless cards and Ethernet cards), disability support (such as helping those with getting accessibility tools working, such as text-to-speech readers, or whatever type of tools there are), peripherals, technical support, desktop/laptop retail, etc
[05:02] <Takyoji1> And then for listings I'd have types such as: retailer, support, freelancer, individual/advocate
[05:02]  * Takyoji1 shrugs
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji1: Companies and people would be far better to list than hardware or software.
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> There are already dozens of hardware support databases.  Don't attempt to duplicate their work - you will fail.  Only list things that are specific to Minnesota.
[05:03] <Takyoji1> I think tomorrow I'll go to the local Cartridge World, and see if they'd be interested or so
[05:03] <Takyoji1> Well, I'm not listing hardware specifically
[05:03] <Takyoji1> Just components
[05:04] <Takyoji1> Like if someone wants a printer, they can find a store that knows which products of theirs work, and so on
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> Okay, that's fine, yeah
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> If it's user-edited though, be watching for the idiot that tries to say "Store X sells the HP Model 235250235, which works great"
[05:05] <Takyoji1> But yes, I'm also going to start seriously doing freelance work in the area, such as with support and so on
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> You can list my company, which ONLY supports our product running on Linux :P
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> (by my I mean where I work, not own)
[05:05] <Takyoji1> Because in all honesty, it would be on a basis of: local companies/individuals, and each would be tagged with their specialty
[05:06] <Takyoji1> So a person can say "webcams" (or perhaps not as specific), and find all areas nearby that provide webcams that are known and supported
[05:06] <Takyoji1> But not listing the brands/models
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> It would be nifty to have companies specializing in Linux/FLOSS based solutions, like Nagios and CodeWeavers.
[05:08] <Takyoji1> Just what would it be listed as then? Software, or?
[05:08] <fisch246> brb someone posted a fix to a bug, that i now need to see if it works
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Dunno - could have a plain companies category
[05:13] <Takyoji1> And yay for postal code to GPS databases
[05:13] <Takyoji1> (for approximation, yes)
[05:14] <Takyoji1> otherwise how shall "verification" be done?
[05:14] <Takyoji1> Like, what type of trust system would be used, or something, for adding new companies/stores/people to the directory.
[05:16] <Takyoji1> just have myself as the only one able to add new entries, or?
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Um, why would you be converting the postal code to GPS coordinates just to check if it's in Minnesota?  Postal codes don't cross state lines.
[05:17] <Takyoji1> No, I'm implying so a person can just type their postal code, to see what companies/people are closest.
[05:19] <Takyoji1> for a search
[06:00] <Takyoji1> fisch246, you're hosting an installfest, yus, or?
[06:00] <fisch246> a release party
[06:01] <fisch246> the deadline to RSVP is april 16th
[06:01] <Takyoji1> Solely a release party, or a release party that's also an installfest, or?
[06:01] <fisch246> nah just a release party
[06:01] <fisch246> since no one will be installing at the party...
[06:01] <Takyoji1> What was the Facebook event URI?
[06:02] <fisch246> unless people want an after party install fest at my house...
[06:02] <Takyoji1> Yay, nerdy socialization. :P
[06:02] <fisch246> i could put on music, and we all can use my wifi to install 11.04
[06:02] <fisch246> however i don't own this house... my parents do
[06:02] <fisch246> but my dad is for sure coming
[06:03] <fisch246> he's the most nerdy guy i know
[06:03] <fisch246> he'll fit right in XD
[06:03] <Takyoji1> Too bad in the next version, they're not allowing a choice of a standard GNOME desktop environment, rather, strictly Unity I believe.
[06:03] <Takyoji1> You're in the metro area, correct?
[06:04] <fisch246> yup
[06:04] <fisch246> and actually you'll be able to get gnome post-release
[06:04] <fisch246> in the PPA
[06:04] <Takyoji1> I'm in Faribault, but of course willing to drive
[06:05] <fisch246> the party is in hopkins
[06:05] <fisch246> if you want to be official... you'll have to give me your name and email
[06:05] <fisch246> i'll be posting stuff like my number for directions if need be
[06:05] <fisch246> but it's really easy to find
[06:06] <Takyoji1> But yes, you had a Facebook event posted, correct?
[06:06] <Takyoji1> (or at least of what I recall you referencing previously)
[06:06] <fisch246> o right
[06:06] <fisch246> let me pull it up
[06:06] <fisch246> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=149419005115119
[06:07] <Takyoji1> and no Diaspora event? D:
[06:07] <fisch246> >.<
[06:07] <fisch246> i forgot to update the event page...
[06:07] <Takyoji1> Kidding of course. :P
[06:08] <fisch246> well the email has the most up to date info
[06:08] <fisch246> i'll be sending out emails to everyone who RSVP'd
[06:08] <fisch246> after april 16th
[06:09] <Takyoji1> Directly via email or Facebook, correct?
[06:09] <fisch246> email
[06:09] <fisch246> but i need to have your name and email so i can put you on the guest list
[06:09] <fisch246> and keep you up to date
[06:10] <fisch246> but hold on
[06:10] <fisch246> i'm gonna boot into 10.10
[06:10] <fisch246> my home folder is encrypted and i need to get at a file
[06:10] <Takyoji1> or you could manually mount it. :P
[06:10] <fisch246> it'll take too long...
[06:26] <fisch246> alright... who was i just talking to?
[06:27] <Takyoji1> Your imagination? :P
[06:27] <fisch246> i assume you're caleb?
[06:27] <Takyoji1> Yes
[06:27] <fisch246> ah ok
[06:27] <fisch246> good
[06:28] <fisch246> mind emailing me your info?
[06:28] <Takyoji1> I shall
[06:28] <fisch246> thanks :)
[06:39] <Takyoji1> Just email and name, or?
[06:40] <fisch246> yup
[06:40] <Takyoji1> nothing more?
[06:40] <fisch246> first and last name please
[06:40] <fisch246> you'll need money for the party
[06:40] <fisch246> for food
[06:41] <fisch246> i'll be getting an average meal amount for everyone soon
[06:41] <fisch246> so they know how much to bring
[06:41] <fisch246> but it's cheap
[06:41] <Takyoji1> otherwise what is the location?
[06:42] <fisch246> the address is on the facebook page
[06:42] <Takyoji1> restaurant, bar, house, or?
[06:42] <fisch246> restaurant
[06:42] <fisch246> called "Boston Garden"
[06:43] <fisch246> all the info is on the facebook page
[06:43] <fisch246> i updated it before coming back on IRC
[06:44] <Takyoji1> ahh
[06:45] <Takyoji1> Yay Lawrence Lessig
[06:45] <fisch246> ?
[06:45] <fisch246> i know who he is
[06:45] <fisch246> but what of him?
[06:45] <Takyoji1> Just curiously reading your profile
[06:45] <fisch246> besides him being my hero :3
[06:45] <fisch246> ah ok haha
[06:45] <fisch246> go ahead and add me if you wish
[06:46] <Takyoji1> Aww, no nerdcore bands for music? :P
[06:46] <fisch246> the only person attending who hasn't is tonyyarusso >.<
[06:46]  * fisch246 flips off tonyyarusso
[06:46] <fisch246> i kid
[06:46] <fisch246> he's a nice guy :)
[06:47] <Takyoji1> Yay Fight Club, Princess Bride, Toy Story, Shaun of the Dead, Requiem for a Dream, Shawshank Redemption, and The Matrix
[06:48] <fisch246> yp
[06:48] <fisch246> yup*
[06:48] <fisch246> favorite movie of all time is Fight Club
[06:48] <fisch246> so how old are you?
[06:48] <Takyoji1> 18
[06:48] <fisch246> ah ok
[06:48] <fisch246> i think you'll be the youngest one in attendance haha
[06:49] <Takyoji1> Finally finished high school last year (thankfully), been doing occasional freelance web development work, etc
[06:49] <fisch246> cool
[06:49] <Takyoji1> I programs them thar innernets usin the coompoter language HTML! :D
[06:49] <fisch246> heh
[06:49] <Takyoji1> No; I do actual software development, specifically PHP
[06:50] <fisch246> cool
[06:50] <fisch246> i'm currently trying to teach myself python
[06:50] <Takyoji1> People who call HTML a programming language deserve to be drowned. xP
[06:50] <Takyoji1> I've had interest in Python, just haven't had a project yet
[06:50] <fisch246> funny thing is... i don't have time to teach myself python because of school >.<
[06:50] <Takyoji1> Specifically, something along the lines of a GUI application or similar
[06:51] <fisch246> HTML is a reference language... not a programming language...
[06:51] <fisch246> i don't see how someone could mistake that
[06:51] <fisch246> but people do :/
[06:51] <Takyoji1> Vast majority of what I know in regards of technology is all self-taught.
[06:51] <fisch246> same
[06:52] <fisch246> i'm essentially just going to school to be recognized for a degree
[06:52] <Takyoji1> When people say "I program websites in HTML", that usually well-establishes their technology comprehension. :P
[06:52] <fisch246> however most of my learning will be done by books
[06:52] <fisch246> i
[06:52] <Takyoji1> Pretty much the same case for me. xP
[06:52] <fisch246> i'm working my way up to SICP
[06:52] <Takyoji1> I even have a book or two that's practically a college textbook. xP
[06:53] <fisch246> well i'll be back...
[06:53] <fisch246> gonna purge windows :3
[06:53] <fisch246> my computer is far too slow to keep it around...
[06:53] <fisch246> only use is netlfix >.<
[06:53] <fisch246> and i have several other means available for that
[06:54] <fisch246> it can't even play oblivion... so i'm done with i
[06:54] <fisch246> it*
[06:54] <Takyoji1> alright
[06:54] <fisch246> the minimum a comp should be able to do is play Morrowind...
[06:54] <fisch246> if it can do that... i'm happy for life : D
[06:55] <fisch246> not to mention most of the other games i can't use cause it's 64 bit >.<
[06:55] <fisch246> if anything i'll replace it with 32
[06:55] <Takyoji1> I have a Nintendo Wii connected to my desktop by a TV tuner card.  :P
[21:22] <Takyoji> I'm still a bit leery of having average users use Unity..
[21:24] <pjman> I haven't given Unity a fair shake yet to have an opinion
[21:25] <pjman> I upgraded from 10.10 to beta last night. I made the mistake of keeping PPA's installed (including Unity2d) which caused main Unity not to work at all. At least I think that was the cause.
[21:25] <pjman> Troubleshooting tonight
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: You've used it yourself though?
[22:00] <Takyoji> Yes, I use it completely on my laptop, which I usually beta test next releases of Ubuntu
[22:01] <Takyoji> I just think "OMG thar's no taskbar on the bottom!11!1!" is going to scare/discomfort convertees from Windows.
[22:01] <tonyyarusso> It's been suggested that somebody should give a presentation about Unity at the St. Paul release party, but I haven't even looked at it yet :S
[22:03] <Takyoji> "haven't looked at it yet" meaning you haven't seen THE completed presentation, or?
[22:05] <tonyyarusso> I haven't seen Unity.
[22:30] <Takyoji> It took me like a couple days to realize that you move the cursor full to the top-left to bring up the Unity menu, rather than having to manually click everytime
[22:30] <Takyoji> fully*
[22:31] <Takyoji> and then a couple days to figure out how to switch to another window of the same application
[22:34] <Takyoji> Unity is perfect for a casual use laptop or netbook, but I don't really take it seriously for a work-intensive desktop environment use
[22:35] <Takyoji> and to switch workspaces, you have to: move cursor to absolute top-left, go down and click the workspaces icon, then click the workspace you want to switch to
[22:35] <Takyoji> Not: click the workspace you want in the bottom left anymore.
[22:36] <Takyoji> and of course no "Places" menu
[22:37] <Takyoji> and everything in: Applications, System > Preferences, System > Administration is all in just one pile of "Applications"
[22:37] <Takyoji> whereas it's more intended to type in the name of the application, to choose it
[22:38] <Takyoji> And I don't think that'll really help old folks with slow typing rates
[22:39] <ColinHarrington> Takyoji: I haven't used it but have watched many examples of unity in action.  I'll try it when it comes out but I'm glad that old-school gnome is still available
[22:39] <ColinHarrington> I agree that it looks like Unity would be perfect for the small laptop, but not so much for the desktop or anything with some screen real-estate
[22:39] <Takyoji> ColinHarrington: They're completely removing the choice of "old-school GNOME" in 11.08 though (in a vanilla install).
[22:40] <ColinHarrington> I saw :-/
[22:40] <ColinHarrington> Bummer,
[22:40] <ColinHarrington> I think its going to be the right direction over time, but it has to mature to be as confiugurable and flexible as our gnome desktops are now
[22:41] <Takyoji> I believe the Unity desktop environment still uses gnome-panel and so on.
[22:41] <Takyoji> So I think you could just add a panel to the bottom, and the taskbar
[22:41] <ColinHarrington> I don't use a panel at the bottom
[22:41] <ColinHarrington> but I'm not a fan of the unity dock yet..
[22:42] <ColinHarrington> If its anything like the notify-osd thing, it won't be very configurable
[22:42] <ColinHarrington> and I think thats the direction that they are going.
[22:43] <ColinHarrington> Right now on my screen I have 7 windows visible on this desktop
[22:43] <ColinHarrington> I'm constantly going back and forth between windows using references, chat, im, IRC.  It will be interesting to see what unity would do to that
[22:43] <Takyoji> I don't think Unity even supports a multi-monitor setup at all yet either
[22:44] <ColinHarrington> Seriously?
[22:44] <Takyoji> Yes, last I tried with an additional monitor.
[22:45] <Takyoji> Probably might only work with each screen being a separate X screen entirely, but who knows, perhaps it still might not work on anything other than X screen 0. xP
[22:57] <ColinHarrington> If it doesn't do multi-monitor I doubt they could ship it
[22:58] <Takyoji> or they'll just expect normal users to use the GNOME desktop fallback option. :P


[03:58] <OvenWerks> corshmock: I would worry about heating or is the i7 a "mobile" model (two cores four threads)
[03:59] <OvenWerks> corshmock: in my case, I must have pci and pcie slots
[04:06] <corshmock> OvenWerks:  you will always lose me every time brother. Great to hear from you Pal
[04:15] <OvenWerks> corshmock: there is a mobile i7 that is basically a little bit better i3 with bigger, faster cache. That has heat disapation and power use similar to an i3 but with the i7 name (and price) attached to it. That is what is found in most laptops with an "i7"
[04:16] <OvenWerks> for a box that size (nuc size) that is about the best that can be used and still cooled ti within safe limits
[05:00] <corshmock> OvenWerks: thank you again brother.  I have never had the opportunity to deal with hardware at all
[09:51] <studiobot> Karel M. was added by: Karel M.
[12:08] <lastebill1> what's your (free) autotune alternative of choice?
[12:24] <sirriffsalothp> lastebill1: talent :D
[12:37] <lastebill1> sirriffsalothp: A sarcastic smart ass answear, worthy of the early 90s...
[12:38] <lastebill1> or the arc community
[13:08] <sirriffsalothp> lastebill1: takker <3
[13:09] <sirriffsalothp> lastebill1: to answer your question though, the autotunes I've tried that are under free software licenses aren't that sophisticated yet and work very poorly.. you'd be better off trying some VST's
[13:14] <lastebill1> right.   So do you happen to have any autotuneish vst's that were ok?
[13:18] <lastebill1> I got a license for melodyne (vst).    And it is very unstable...
[15:32] <sirriffsalothp> lastebill1: that's the life in these parts I suppose, or just do the autotune on some pirated software and pretend it's free software :P
[15:33] <sirriffsalothp> lastebill1: how anyone would sue you by successfully proving that you're using their autotune in one of your songs is beyond me. Unless they'd have a warrant to see your studio session or something, lol
[15:33] <lastebill1> sirriffsalothp: I guess I could yarr, do that.  Where's my pegleg and parrot?
[15:34] <lastebill1> sirriffsalothp: nah, to old for that stuff
[15:34] <sirriffsalothp> lastebill1: haha, lykke til ;)
[16:24] <OvenWerks> lastebill1: Autotune from the x42 plugins
[16:30] <Martin77> Hi, I can't get zynaddsubfx to work as a plugin. the vst is only a windows with 16 slots sliders
[16:58] <corshmock> When I start Jack, I don't see my audio interface in there (edirol ua-101).  Ubuntu can see it alright.  When I start Ardour, I select the edirol as my input and output device (probably doesn't make any sense) and I get, failed to open audio device.  Have I got everything completely wrong here?
[17:13] <OvenWerks> corshmock: "when I start jack" does not give enough info. Do you mean jack will not start? (started how?) or that whatever utility you are using to start jack does not show your edirol as a device choice?
[17:32] <corshmock> Thanks OvenWerks, I start qjackctl and yes it starts but it doesn't show my edirol.  Is this correct behaviour?  I thought qjackctl was used for setting up connections like audio interface.  I've got a feeling that I've got this whole thing all wrong.
[17:39] <corshmock> Hey I just ran it again and now it can see my edirol. All ten inputs and outputs!  So am I correct in saying, I can use qjackctl to direct the output to my headphones (once I can work out which outputs the headphones are)?
[17:49] <corshmock> No matter what connections I make, I can't seem to get the output to go to the headphones.  It seems like a really lovely piece of software if I could only get it to work for me :)
[17:50] <corshmock> I'd really appreciate it if anyone can offer me any help on this.
[18:10] <corshmock> How's it going brainskan?
[18:11] <brainskan> I am trying to copy a small portion of a larger array into a new smaller array. I can't figure out the syntax for that. Can anyone point me in the right direction of what to look for?
[18:11] <brainskan> Going good, corshmock. Thanks! How are you doing?
[18:11] <brainskan> Good to see you again.
[18:13] <corshmock> Not bad mate.  I'm trying to get jack to direct output to the headphones on my ua-101, so plenty of fun
[18:14] <brainskan> Here's an example of what I am looking for: Let's say I have an array with 10 items in it. But I want to copy the 3rd through the 8th items in the array into a new array. How might I do that? It seems like I would need to have a method for selecting a set of values at a start index through an ending index point.
[18:16] <brainskan> Oh no... You're still trying to make that work? Audio problems like that can really be tricky sometimes. I feel your pain.
[18:17] <corshmock> I'll get it to work if it kills me.  I've been working on getting the OS going for the past few weeks.  Now it's time to play with studio.
[18:27] <corshmock> I never seem to see anyone talking in here.  Is everyone very shy or do they stay logged in when they're asleep?
[18:27] <brainskan> I found my answer FINALLY!!!!! It's called "array slicing" and I found a weird reference for SC array syntax in a Wikipedia article for "Array Slicing" in many computer languages. Why ... why is everything so hard to figure out in this language?
[18:28] <brainskan> I just joined the other day for the first time, when I met you the other day. Sorry, I'm not sure about activity level.
[18:28] <brainskan> Also ... I am super dumb. I just realized I posted a question about SuperCollider by mistake here. I have to much jumbled in my mind right now. Sorry
[18:42] <corshmock> I didn't realize you were a Newbie too brainskan
[18:43] <corshmock> Which language are you using to program?
[18:45] <brainskan> I'm the Forever Noob :-D
[18:45] <brainskan> I am trying to work on a project in a sound synthesis language called "SuperCollider."
[18:47] <brainskan> The problem is it's a very cryptic and often poorly documented language. It's very powerful and flexible though. I will keep banging my head against the wall until I figure it out! RAWRRRR!
[18:48] <corshmock> It seems to be extremely complicated.  Fair play for taking on such a task!
[21:24] <lastebill1> OvenWerks: thanks for the tip, I'm going to try it out :)
[23:41] <studiobot> Yana Suryana was removed by: Yana Suryana


[06:40] <kababu> Hi all,
[06:42] <kababu> I have installed ubuntu 8.04 on Hp pavilion dv2495se laptop.The installation went through well
[06:42] <kababu> However, not able to bring up wi-fi port
[06:44] <kababu> I have Installed Ndiswrapper related packages.
[06:45] <kababu> Having tough time finding the drivers for wi-fi port in "inf" format
[06:46] <kababu> If anyone has come across this situation, plz guide me.Thx in advance


[13:12] <cjwatson> wgrant: Bug 503421 seems like it should be in some state other than Fix Committed (since April)
[13:12] <_mup_> Bug #503421: Even after fixing translator-credits, some still remain untranslated. <lp-translations> <qa-ok> <regression> <Launchpad itself:Fix Committed by wgrant> <Ubuntu Translations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/503421>
[13:16] <wgrant> i need to fix the existing data at some point
[13:17] <cjwatson> Also I wonder if bug 912287 still needs to be Critical; no instances of it in any of the lucid_lp_lxc summary logs
[13:17] <_mup_> Bug #912287: test_sigint_exits_cleanly breaks <qa-untestable> <spurious-test-failure> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/912287>
[13:26] <cjwatson> Ditto no instances in lucid_db_lp_lxc
[13:27] <cjwatson> Oh, but looks like buildbot doesn't keep old logs around forever, damn
[13:28] <cjwatson> Only has back to lucid_lp_lxc #783, which isn't all that long ago
[14:16] <mpt> "This is the Launchpad Login Service utilizing OpenID technology to synthesize a cromulent authentication experience."