[20:17] <glebihan> computerx, you can do that with gconf-editor
[20:17] <JoshM> urlin2u, disc i want to use is currenyl dynamic. i will have to repartition it then. i'd like to make my one windows partition and leave the rest unpartitioned and create new partitions during install. will this be a problem?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  theres a gconf settng to make the address bar always show. the ubuntu-tweak tool has a check box for it also
[20:17] <Phase> I need a way to limit the download rate of youtube videos, I'd prefer to be able to limit them in the browser straight from the website, but from my searches I don't think it's possible without capping the entire machines bandwidth.. looked at youtube-dl.py, but it doesn't provide any options to cap speeds either. Anyone have any ideas?
[20:17] <bullgard4_> Does System Monitor as a default display only processes of the current user? How can I configure System Monitor to show the processes of all users?
[20:17] <zykotick9> glebihan, that isn't even close to an answer.  computerx
[20:17] <urlin2u> JoshM,  was just trying to see if the partitioning was gpt
[20:17] <urlin2u> I
[20:17] <vbgunz__> Real quick question. How many of you actually looked into getting a real Ocelot? Fricking codenames.
[20:18] <JoshM>  urlin2u, should it be GPT or MBR
[20:18] <computerx> glebihan, Dr_Willis: ty so much. I found it and fixed it
[20:18] <urlin2u> JoshM, I know nothing in a other then mbr partitioning
[20:18] <computerx> Daft though it sounds, that bar drives me nuts
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz__:  im waiting for 'Perverted Platypus'
[20:18] <JoshM> urlin2u, so mbr then?
[20:18] <mbertens1> pecos: yes security leak, and thats a well known one, but anyway i'm not here fight, but to solve my problem
[20:18] <computerx> Dr_Willis, LOL I almost spat my coffee over the desk
[20:18] <zykotick9> computerx, what was it?  I wanted to see an actual answer.
[20:18] <urlin2u> JoshM, I know nothing about changing eithier
[20:18] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis you are, missing something?
[20:19] <glebihan> computerx, check the "/apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry" option
[20:19] <glebihan> zykotick9, was looking for the right key...
[20:19] <glebihan> computerx, you're welcome
[20:19] <glebihan> zykotick9,  "/apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry" option
[20:19] <silverarrow> anyone good with minitube upgrade?
[20:19] <zykotick9> glebihan, thanks
[20:19] <JoshM> urlin2u, so you cant recommend which i should choose, then? im going to clear all partitions from the drive and start fresh
[20:19] <glebihan> zykotick9, you're welcome
[20:19] <computerx> zykotick9, I ran gconf-editor from the terminal, clicked apps, nautilus, preferences and ticked always_use_location_entry
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> I really think its time ubuntu outgrew the animal naming scheme and just went with version #'s.. :) but then we wont have the neat themed wallpapers.
[20:19] <urlin2u> JoshM, I can't advise when I don't know.
[20:19] <zykotick9> computerx, thanks glebihan shared it
[20:19] <JoshM> urlin2u, got it.
[20:20] <mbertens1> pecos zykotick9 Dr_Willis: rebooted the server still have the problem that the root password is being asked instead of my password :-(
[20:20] <computerx> Yeah, I need to work on my typing speed
[20:20] <urlin2u> JoshM, not sure it is as easy as just clearing all the partitions make sure you do.;-)
[20:20] <nicofs> glebihan, http://pastebin.com/K3cgMNRA
[20:21] <nicofs> glebihan, from looking at it, i guess i should comment the last 2 lines out...
[20:21] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, yeah , 11.10 should be just 11.10 :)
[20:21] <glebihan> nicofs, no don't you won't be able to use sudo anymore
[20:22] <JoshM> urlin2u, doing it now...going w/MBR
[20:22] <glebihan> nicofs, what you have to do is check that your user is in the sudo group
[20:22] <nicofs> glebihan, hmmm... i still want to use that - but preferably with the need to enter my pw^^
[20:22] <computerx> Sooo, earlier today I started up, logged in and all the windows lost their title bar and borders and were shoved to the far-left (aka non-visible space due to my monitor size mis-match). I eventually fixed it by deleting half my profile. Was there a better way to go about this, if it happens again?
[20:22] <glebihan> nicofs, yes we will get there
[20:23] <zykotick9> glebihan, admin group to use sudo
[20:23] <roasted> Question - my laptop, beginning today, won't let me log in. it returns no errors, looks like it's logging in, and comes right back to the login screen. Any ideas?
[20:23] <nicofs> glebihan, how do i check what group my user is in?
[20:23] <zykotick9> nicofs, "groups" in a terminal
[20:23] <urlin2u> JoshM, is the main disc dynamic as well?
[20:24] <glebihan> nicofs, once you've made sure you're in the sudo group, I'll give you my version of the sudoers file, which should work fine
[20:24] <zykotick9> glebihan, "admin" group to use sudo
[20:24] <glebihan> nicofs, system->administration->user and groups
[20:24] <vbgunz__> Dr_Willis: that'll probably put Ubuntu on the map bigtime
[20:24] <nicofs> zykotick9, glebihan user is not in sudo group...
[20:24] <roasted> oh, nevermind. a quick terminal login looks like my hdd is 100% full. Guess I didnt realize how big that image was I uploaded from that windows box.
[20:25] <glebihan> zykotick9, actually both work with some differences, and I think that group sudo gives more privilzgies
[20:25] <zykotick9> nicofs, that's correct - you need to be in the "admin" group to use sudo (on ubuntu)
[20:25] <nicofs> zykotick9, not in there either
[20:25] <zykotick9> glebihan, are you coming from a debian background?
[20:25] <glebihan> zykotick9, nope
[20:25] <urlin2u> roasted, you know how to get in right?
[20:26] <zykotick9> glebihan, asking because it uses the "sudo" group and not "admin"
[20:26] <jragon_> Hi
[20:26] <jragon_> Is there a source for the JDK?
[20:26] <roasted> urlin2u, I'm already good to go. :)
[20:26] <glebihan> zykotick9, well ubuntu uses both afaik
[20:26] <urlin2u> roasted, figured you were. ;-)
[20:26] <roasted> urlin2u, a quick terminal login, df, 100% space, rm -rf an unnecessary and HUGE file, back to 19% usage. reboot, done deal. already good :)
[20:26] <nicofs> just tell me how i get my user into either^^
[20:26] <guntbert> glebihan: no, the sudo group has no members
[20:27] <glebihan> guntbert, zykotick9 then I have something weird here...
[20:27] <JoshM> urlin2u,  yes but ubuntu shouldnt pay it any mind...right?
[20:27] <silverarrow> anyone who knows how to add ppa and update minitube?
[20:27] <glebihan> nicofs, are you in the users and groups tool
[20:27] <glebihan> ?
[20:28] <lyrae> i try to install wine, or anything related to wine, and it says to check my internet connection. but im pinging a site and there are no packages dropped
[20:28] <lyrae> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/winbind_3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.4_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[20:28] <urlin2u> JoshM, not sure that is why I suggest getting solid info rather then pecking at the dynamic ob the second HD, I don't think removing the partitions will work alone.
[20:28] <farciarz84> I have intel graphic card, how to check which driver version is installed?
[20:28] <nicofs> glebihan, i'd love to - but i don't have that menu item...
[20:28] <lyrae> is it a problem on the ubuntu end?
[20:28] <nicofs> could install it though...
[20:28] <urlin2u> ob=on JoshM
[20:28] <glebihan> nicofs, then try launching "users-admin"
[20:29] <JoshM> urlin2u, understood.
[20:29] <FreezingCold> What happens if I remove Ubuntu desktop?
[20:30] <glebihan> nicofs, another way is to edit the /etc/group file manually
[20:30] <guntbert> FreezingCold: nothing, it is only a meta-package to pull in all needed packages
[20:30] <FreezingCold> Thank you!
[20:30] <FreezingCold> I was worried about removing it at first
[20:30] <glebihan> guntbert, zykotick9 ok was mislead by the sudoers file... I'm indeed in the admin group and not the sudo one...
[20:31] <guntbert> FreezingCold: although it could be useful when upgrading your system
[20:31] <farciarz84> I have intel graphic card, how to check which driver version is installed?
[20:31] <guntbert> glebihan: :)
[20:31] <FreezingCold> I won't be upgrading this, I'm making a LiveCD for myself
[20:31] <nicofs> glebihan, ok - what to add where? username to "adm:*:4:"?
[20:32] <guntbert> FreezingCold: and why do you want to remove it anyway?
[20:32] <glebihan> nicofs, add your username at the of the line starting by admin (not adm)
[20:32] <FreezingCold> guntbert, I'm cleaning out all the unneeded packages for my CD
[20:32] <zykotick9> nicofs, from a terminal "sudo usermod -aG admin YOURUSERNAME"
[20:32] <glebihan> at the *end*
[20:32] <zykotick9> glebihan, i don't think editing groups or passwd is a great idea
[20:32] <guntbert> FreezingCold: but this one is really tiny
[20:33] <FreezingCold> guntbert, I know but there are some packages that I want to remove that force me to remove Ubuntu-desktop
[20:33] <sebaldus> BOBobss
[20:33] <guntbert> !info ubuntu-desktop | FreezingCold
[20:33] <glebihan> nicofs, use zykotick9's command instead
[20:33] <guntbert> FreezingCold: in that case go ahead and no worries
[20:33] <nicofs> zykotick9, "group "admin" does not exist"
[20:33] <zykotick9> glebihan, I believe editing either requires visudo
[20:33] <FreezingCold> guntbert, any ideas on what kind of stuff I should remove?
[20:34] <FreezingCold> Any big space savers?
[20:34] <guntbert> FreezingCold: sorry, no
[20:34] <FreezingCold> I killed Ubuntu-docs and openoffice already
[20:34] <urlin2u> FreezingCold, you know of the minimal cd as well?
[20:34] <zykotick9> nicofs, are you sure you are using ubuntu?  "grep admin /etc/group"
[20:34] <FreezingCold> urlin2u, yeah, but it has gnome removed correct?
[20:34] <FreezingCold> I want to keep that
[20:34] <glebihan> zykotick9, I've edited those files more than once with vi without consequences... was I lucky ?
[20:35] <urlin2u> FreezingCold, only about 12 mib, it s a net install.
[20:35] <fwaokda> i wrote a txt file in gedit, and it has 140 lines, when i take that file and move it onto windows it is all one line. how can i fix this?
[20:35] <zykotick9> glebihan, ? i'm not sure about the details.  I've done the same.
[20:35] <FreezingCold> urlin2u, oh, I don't want a netinstall
[20:35] <nicofs> zykotick9, no result
[20:35] <FreezingCold> This is for managing OpenPGP keys in a safe place :)
[20:35] <guntbert> glebihan: *very* lucky
[20:35] <czz> how can i view my recent installs?
[20:35] <glebihan> nicofs, that's normal, now you should be in the admin group
[20:35] <urlin2u> FreezingCold, cool , just making sure you know of easier options.
[20:36] <glebihan> guntbert, could you detail on that ?
[20:36] <zykotick9> glebihan, good luck helping nicofs if they don't have an admin group.  I'm not touching this issue anymore.
[20:36] <FreezingCold> Yeah, what I'm doing is kinda unneeded I know ;)
[20:36] <Tonjevic> Hi there :)
[20:36] <urlin2u> czz, how did you install?
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  windows wants a cr and lf at the end of each line.. linux/unix only needs one.. theres some text2dos or similer commands that can 'fix' it..
[20:36] <guntbert> glebihan: any error in the sudoers file will prevent you from being able to sudo, so ....
[20:36] <czz> urlin2u, aptitude
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  may be dos2unix or unix2dos commands.. been ages since ive had to mess withit.
[20:37] <glebihan> guntbert, that's not a matter of being lucky, it's a matter of being careful...
[20:37] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, for windows or ubuntu?
[20:37] <nicofs> zykotick9, if it comforts you: it's not bad if i wreck this thing^^
[20:37] <glebihan> nicofs, can you check if you're in the admin group now ?
[20:37] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis, i believe the package(s) have been renamed...  i don't remember the correct name though.  fwaokda
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  yes.. :)  i imgine its been ported to windows some how.. and its in linux.
[20:38] <guntbert> glebihan: yes, so use visudo (that command checks the file for sanity before writing it to disk)
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  theres prob. a dozen tools to convert the things.
[20:38] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, well i just need one ;P
[20:38] <nicofs> glebihan, i am not. there is no group "admin"
[20:38] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis, toofrodos or something?
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  so you need to decide what os you want to do the converting in...
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> !info tofromdos
[20:38] <guntbert> !wfm > glebihan
[20:38] <urlin2u> czz, not sure of any specific command but here is info. http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/rn01re01.html
[20:39] <ramadan_> Hi. I have an HP Pavillion dv6233se and Natty Narwhal. HP website says my wireless card is 802.11b/g wlan. My wireless doesn't work and I've tried everything I could find online. No luck. Anybody have any experience with this?
[20:39] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis, sorry guess i was wrong about that guess
[20:39] <guntbert> !info tofrodos fwaokda
[20:39] <guntbert> !info tofrodos | fwaokda
[20:39] <glebihan> guntbert, we weren't talking about editing the sudoers file, but the /etc/group file
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> ramadan_:  you need to determine the exct chipset of the card.   saying its a b/g card - dosent really say mich. :)
[20:39]  * Dr_Willis wonders where the m went in tofrodos
[20:39] <zykotick9> i was close ;)
[20:40] <silverarrow> anyone using minitube in Ubuntu?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> that word sounds like something id order at tocobell :)
[20:40] <guntbert> glebihan: ok, maybe I overreacted :) - sorry
[20:40] <tbruff13> how do i put windows 2000 on a flash drive with linux
[20:40] <ramadan_> Dr_Willis, how can I determine that?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> ramadan_:  lspci command output is a good place to start.
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> tbruff13:  may not be doable.. figure how it it can even work first perhaps.
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> tbruff13:  and if theres windows tools to do it.. try them in wine
[20:41] <Pyprokid> #msg nickserv info Pyprokid
[20:41] <glebihan> guntbert, no problem, I'll still take the advice about visudo when editing the sudoers file
[20:41] <tbruff13> Dr_Willis: will unetbootin work
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> tbruff13:  i doubt it.. windows is picky..
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> tbruff13:  ask in #windows perhaps.
[20:42] <glebihan> nicofs, then I guess you should create the admin group (with the addgroup command) but it's really weird that it's not there
[20:42] <fwaokda> thanks guys unix2dos worked
[20:42] <nicofs> glebihan, the whole system is weird... if i could I'd just install a new system.. but i have to make do with what's there...
[20:42] <nitram147> .sk
[20:43] <ramadan_> Dr_Willis, no luck with lspci. It doesn't show any info for wireless, only wired. The wireless worked perfectly under Ubuntu 10...
[20:43] <tbruff13> Dr_Willis: what network is windows on freenode
[20:43] <zykotick9> tbruff13, ##windows
[20:44] <glebihan> nicofs, well then... let's go and try "sudo addgroup admin" and then "sudo usermod -aG admin YOURUSERNAME" again
[20:44] <tbruff13> ##windows
[20:44] <JoshM> urlin2u, what does the img at bottom of screen in first part of install mean? keyboard=dude_in_circle
[20:44] <nicofs> glebihan, ok. done.
[20:44] <zykotick9> tbruff13, "/join ##windows"
[20:44] <rp__> hi there, when i do an ifconfig -a i can see the additioanl interface but no ip to it
[20:44] <rp__> how do get it an ip address?
[20:45] <urlin2u> JoshM, not sure really that is not a worry for me.
[20:45] <felixdm> ifconfig inet addr:
[20:45] <glebihan> nicofs, and now here is my sudoers file : http://pastebin.com/A0VY2QPs
[20:45] <JoshM> urlin2u, not worried either, just curious,
[20:45] <lyrae> Guys i cant install packages, not even update ubunto
[20:45] <lyrae> i get
[20:46] <nicofs> glebihan, ok, starting firefox - will only take a few hours...^^
[20:46] <lyrae> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.35-30-generic-pae_2.6.35-30.54_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[20:46] <felixdm> source.list
[20:46] <glebihan> nicofs, so to do things properly, use visudo to edit your sudoers file to look like this one
[20:46] <lyrae> could it be my router? i just got fios last week
[20:46] <felixdm> lyrae check /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:47] <lyrae> felixdm, ok. should i be looking for anything unusual? mostly maverick-updates
[20:47] <guntbert> nicofs: if you need just a browser on a slow system: links2, w3m   are text mode browsers
[20:47] <glebihan> nicofs, you could also wget http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=A0VY2QPs
[20:48] <silverarrow> so no idea about minitube?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  other then that youtube changed some stuff a week or 2 ago that broke a lot of the downloader tools.....
[20:48] <Guest29422> Hello. I upgraded and now I can't start my desktop environment.
[20:49] <felixdm> lyrae http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/      another linux-image
[20:49] <KyleHughes> Hello people
[20:49] <urlin2u> lyrae, open synaptic run a reload and upgrade fully then look for linux-generic-pae
[20:49] <lyrae> felixdm, i think the problem is that im using ubuntu 11.04. i clicked the upgrade button and so far no problems on upgrading
[20:49] <lizbeth> Hello. I upgraded and now I can't start my desktop environment.
[20:49] <KyleHughes> i just boot into some sort of grub terminally thing
[20:49] <guntbert> Guest29422: you upgraded from what version to which one?
[20:49] <KyleHughes> I'm not very good at explaining :/
[20:50] <lizbeth> guntbert, 10.10 to 11.04
[20:50] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, grub terminally like thing lol, what is your final goal here.
[20:50] <guntbert> lizbeth: and what do you get when you boot?
[20:51] <KyleHughes> To boot into something that lets me install Ubuntu
[20:51] <felixdm> lyrae apt-get update  then apt-get install xD
[20:51] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis; yeah, that might be it
[20:51] <lizbeth> guntbert, if I boot graphically I see the session manager then it dies after I login.
[20:51] <felixdm> or upgrade
[20:51] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, how about a cd
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  i had to upgrade the tools on my phone. :) about all i recall needing to do. their forume/updates posted fixing changes youtuvbe did.
[20:51] <lyle> hey, is there some way to launch the default mail client from the cmd line?
[20:51] <lizbeth> guntbert, as recovery root I can start desktop normally with startx. But just as root.
[20:51] <KyleHughes> I'm booting from the iso i got from the website
[20:51] <KyleHughes> it takes me into that grub thing
[20:51] <KyleHughes> I don't know what to do from there on
[20:51] <silverarrow> Dr_willis, still, I have trouble upgrading though, can that possible help?
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> lizbeth:  err.. You normally DONT run X as root.
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  look for a updated verison in a PPA perhaps.
[20:52] <zykotick9> lyle, "evolution" maybe?
[20:52] <Prabz> Hi I'm facing a peculiar problem on my Dell Inspiron 1525, Maverick Meerkat. For the last 2 days syslog has been filling up my hard disk with logs which read: [74774.234615] hda-intel: spurious response 0x0:0x0, last cmd=0x000000. I'm baffled why this is occurring. Can anybody help?
[20:52] <lizbeth> Dr_Willis, i know.
[20:52] <guntbert> lizbeth: can you try as another user - running X as root *may* give you exactly these problems
[20:52] <lyle> zykotick9: nah, that just launches evolution, i want to launch whatever is set as default
[20:52] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, decribe what you see on booting the cd, and any other installs on the computer like operating systems.
[20:52] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis, i should, but I have trouble with ppa
[20:52] <felixdm> =D ECHO $EMAIL
[20:52] <felixdm> echo $MAIL
[20:52] <KyleHughes> I'll do my best
[20:52] <felixdm> i dont remember
[20:52] <KyleHughes> Hang on
[20:52] <FloodBot1> felixdm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <lizbeth> guntbert, startx doesn't work with any other user but root.
[20:53] <zykotick9> lyle, oh i gotcha.  Sorry off the top of my head i don't remember how.
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  every ppa?  that would be weird...
[20:53] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis, I'm not yet best friends with terminal window
[20:53] <nicofs> glebihan, ok. sudoers edited
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  time to spend time learning bash and the cli and stop atching youtube. :)
[20:53] <rypervenche> Dr_Willis: I know of a good PDF that you could use to learn the command line.
[20:53] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis, probably spot on lol
[20:54] <JoshM> urlin2u,  cant even get "try ubuntu" to work now. is x64 supported on my system?
[20:54] <glebihan> nicofs, ok then you *should* be good, try the update manager again
[20:54] <lizbeth> Is there any command to reconfigure x server?
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> rypervenche:  i tend to just point people to delicious.com and check the bash and tutorial tags. :)
[20:54] <lyle> felixdm: i don't see anything in my env
[20:54] <JoshM> urlin2u, ubuntu x64 that is
[20:54] <guntbert> lizbeth: try to add another user from the command line (not in recovery mode) and see if that user can login graphically
[20:54] <rypervenche> Oops, sent that to the wrong person.
[20:54] <lizbeth> guntbert, which is the command?
[20:54] <felixdm> MAIL COMMAND
[20:55] <urlin2u> JoshM, not sure is it 64 bit, and have you confirmed what you have done is feasible?
[20:55] <rypervenche> silverarrow: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php Click on "Download it here"
[20:55] <silverarrow> Dr_willis, I fiddled with ppa and a couple of directions I found googelig, but it didn't work upgrading minitube
[20:55] <KyleHughes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/672717/ <---- Is as close as I can get
[20:55] <JoshM> urlin2u, weird, install window was nonresponsive, closed it, waited, waited, waited, now im in "try ubuntu" mode
[20:55] <zykotick9> lyle, you could try "gnome-open mailto:" but i doubt that's really what you want - that opens a new compose email
[20:55] <JoshM> urlin2u, what would you like to see?
[20:55] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, did you have a Linux install you removed?
[20:55] <KyleHughes> Nope
[20:56] <silverarrow> rypervenche, thanks ! I really like that
[20:56] <lyle> zykotick9: that's definitely a step in the right direction
[20:56] <nicofs> glebihan, authentication failed
[20:56] <KyleHughes> Probably should say I'm doing what the wiki says about dual booting with OS X
[20:56] <KyleHughes> with rEFIt and what-not
[20:56] <guntbert> lizbeth: sudo adduser testuser (after having switched to a virtual terminal with ctrl+alt+F2
[20:56] <KyleHughes> but when i boot from the disk i just get that
[20:57] <urlin2u> JoshM, it seems your just acting without knowing what your doing, all I'm trying to  say is don't do that gpt to mbr with 2 discs as dynamics is a geek effort, if possible to even make 1 mbr.
[20:57] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, I know nothing in this area always mention this sort of stuu.
[20:58] <urlin2u> stuff*
[20:58] <KyleHughes> Is there an end to that sentance :S
[20:58] <KyleHughes> What? :S
[20:58] <leach> hi all
[20:58] <leach> i need a little help
[20:59] <KyleHughes> So anyone else have a clue? :)
[20:59] <JoshM> urlin2u, im not "acting without knowledge" i expected the install to work w/out me having to even worry about this stuff but apparently not...
[20:59] <glebihan> nicofs, hum
[20:59] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, when your installing to a apple always mention that first, not everybody knows the process.
[20:59] <guntbert> lizbeth: sorry, I have to leave - Good luck :-)
[20:59] <nicofs> glebihan, i'm still not prompted for any pw...
[20:59] <JoshM> urlin2u, im not a newb.
[20:59] <nicofs> glebihan, i'll restart, maybe that helps
[20:59] <DoctorBlackbird> On ubuntu, what do i do to make makefiles?
[20:59] <KyleHughes> The process is:
[21:00] <glebihan> nicofs, cannot hurt anyway...
[21:00] <FreezingCold> How can I completely remove all removed packages?
[21:00] <KyleHughes> install rEFIt (thing which lets you use MBR), setup partition with boot camp, boot to the disk
[21:00] <KyleHughes> That's it
[21:00] <urlin2u> JoshM, dynamic setups are rather unusual, if you expected a just plug and play install your acting without knowing, don't take that personally.
[21:00] <KyleHughes> then it's the same as with other PCs
[21:01] <SudoKing> how do you reset the keyboard preferences (delay/speed, as in system->preferences->keyboard) to default values?
[21:01] <leach> can someone explain to me why in the know menvironment i have one PATH environment (different then that in /etc/environment) - where can i find out who set it up and how to remove the override?
[21:01] <x_> moved my ubuntu (current version) computer with nvidia hdmi card to my tv in the basement, (nvidia settings and ubuntu both say the tv is 720p native but it's really 1080i or p can't remember. Anyway 720p works fine, when I switch to 1080 it's all blurry, works fine upstairs on a different tv any ideas?
[21:01] <JoshM> urlin2u, sorry, i havent had this issue w/installing ubuntu before, and certainly not w/installing windows. as it is now, i have an empty drive formatted w/MBR, no partitions - starting fresh.
[21:01] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, you did not mention that until I had to force it out of you.
[21:01] <leach> i can override it for the console eaily enough - but how do i do the same for the gnome shell?
[21:01] <bsmith093> whats the command to empty the Downloads folder
[21:02] <KyleHughes> You didn't force it out of me at all :| I said "probably should mention"
[21:02] <urlin2u> JoshM, have you ever had a dynamic set up before.
[21:02] <KyleHughes> So I said it of my own accord >_>
[21:02] <zykotick9> bsmith093, do you mean the APT download folder or the regular /home/USERNAME/Downloads?
[21:02] <nicofs> glebihan, nothing changed
[21:02] <urlin2u> KyleHughes, my point is important info from the get go.
[21:02] <bsmith093> regular
[21:02] <KyleHughes> So you can't help me?
[21:02] <JoshM> urlin2u, no. and the disk is back to basic now.
[21:02] <JoshM> urlin2u, about to try install again.
[21:02] <glebihan> nicofs, you rebooted already ?
[21:03] <nicofs> glebihan, yes - the only thing fast about that machine
[21:03] <zykotick9> bsmith093, there isn't a specific command for that, use rm in terminal or the GUI File browser of your choice (nautilus for example)
[21:03] <urlin2u> JoshM, okay then the past installs and your success have nothing to do with this one chill out get the correct info and enjoy.
[21:03] <JoshM> urlin2u, im attempting install from within "try ubuntu"
[21:03] <glebihan> nicofs, and still no password prompt and same authentication error ?
[21:03] <bsmith093> zykotick9: so whats the rm command to empty a folderr without deleteling it
[21:03] <nicofs> glebihan, yes
[21:03] <JoshM> urlin2u, im chill, just frustrated, thats all. pls hold...
[21:04] <glebihan> nicofs, is there anything else in the error message ?
[21:04] <kernelpanicker> I'm setting up a new VPS in 10.04 LTS... can/should I set it up under git version control?
[21:04] <zykotick9> bsmith093, cd into it first - "cd ~/Downloads" then run "rm *" [BE CAREFUL!!!]
[21:04] <indrora> On 11.04 and attempting to install nvidia-96 -- this forces xorg to be removed. Bug?
[21:04] <bsmith093> zykotick9: thanks done
[21:05] <urlin2u> JoshM, I can omly help by saying get the right info, do you realize this?  I'm quite sure that a dynamic to gpt is more than remving [artitkons, and not even sure about running it alongside the main dynamic.
[21:05] <nicofs> glebihan, "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server"
[21:05] <commanderstitch> hi
[21:05] <mister2> hey, i think my wireless config is set to manual or something, i can join my network but can't ping the router... thoughts/suggestions?
[21:05] <commanderstitch> i didn't know there was an ubuntu chat lol
[21:05] <kernelpanicker> what would/should I put under git... etc?
[21:05] <commanderstitch> ;)
[21:06] <indrora> mister2: run "route" -- does it hang?
[21:06] <JoshM> urlin2u, ok. i came here for the right info but w/e. i appreciate your help.
[21:06] <x_> moved my ubuntu (current version) computer with nvidia hdmi card to my tv in the basement, (nvidia settings and ubuntu both say the tv is 720p native but it's really 1080i or p can't remember. Anyway 720p works fine, when I switch to 1080 it's all blurry, works fine upstairs on a different tv any ideas?
[21:06] <leach> anyone help - my gnome shell path  is different then that in /etc/environment - and i have no idea where it got ruined
[21:06] <indrora> x_: TV doesn't support 1080p.
[21:06] <zykotick9> x_, sounds like the TV is actually 720p to me
[21:07] <x_> its not, my 360 works fine in 1080p
[21:07] <x_> err i
[21:07] <andrewbird_> Is there a way to prevent a specific program from using a GTK theme ?  I'm on Natty.
[21:08] <indrora> x_: the xb360 will "gracefully" fallback on 720p if it cannot "accurately" do 1080p.
[21:08] <indrora> Silently.
[21:08] <zykotick9> x_, nvidia-settings / ubuntu say otherwise.  Good luck.
[21:08] <urlin2u> JoshM, as far all your perils here 2 dynamic discs probably and converting the web, may be your better choice. On line now are many power users none have said a word.
[21:08] <mister2> indora: it did for a moment, but route finished working and i seem to have irc while on wireless right now...
[21:08] <anli_> Whats up with buttons in the taskbar that are disabled and I can never restore the window?
[21:09] <glebihan> nicofs, did you try running update-manager from the command-line to see if you could get some more detailed error messages ?
[21:09] <x_> im so confusednow.
[21:09] <indrora> x_: your screen isn't 1080p.
[21:09] <ionosphre> Hello, I'm attempting to do an ubuntu-minimal install on my eeepc and it's not recognizing my network card
[21:09] <x_> hrm.
[21:09] <mister2> indrora: it did for a moment, but route finished working and i seem to have irc while on wireless right now...
[21:10] <ionosphre> An ethernet controller shows up under lspci, but not under lsmod or ifconfig
[21:10] <mister2> indrora: and my firefox isn't working...
[21:10] <indrora> mister2: Not Your Box then.
[21:10] <ionosphre> I'm attempting to do this from the Hardy Heron minimal
[21:10] <urlin2u> ionosphre, can you hard plug the net?
[21:10] <ionosphre> yes
[21:10] <ionosphre> and it is
[21:10] <mister2> indrora: could it be my dns configuration?
[21:11] <urlin2u> ionosphre, hardy is end of life.
[21:11] <ionosphre> which actually leads to another question of mine
[21:11] <ionosphre> There is a specially built kernel for the eeepc
[21:11] <indrora> mister2: Probably.
[21:11] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade.
[21:12] <ionosphre> but it appears to have stopped development after jaunty
[21:12] <mister2> indrora: k thanks, i'll look into it
[21:12] <x_> indrora, so maybe your right but why does my 360 say it's 1080i then, just a mis detection ?
[21:12] <cristian_c> Hi
[21:12] <zykotick9> ionosphre, most (probably all) the eee specific stuff has been in mainline kernel for a while!
[21:12] <indrora> x_: the xbox will lie.
[21:12] <lizbeth> Hello. Does someone know how to reconfigure x-server?
[21:12] <cristian_c> I would like to operate the keys with the keyboard wireless media desktop
[21:13] <ionosphre> So should I instead do a more recent LTS minimal install?
[21:13] <neozen> #foxycart
[21:13] <x_> indrora, I guess im just stupid I thought this was a 1080 tv when I bought it.
[21:13] <zykotick9> ionosphre, only if you want a more current (security supported system)
[21:13] <urlin2u> ionosphre, yes lucid
[21:13] <cristian_c> I connected everything and used the KeyTouch program to configure the keys
[21:14] <blumaa> hi, i'm having problems with my sound.  in my sound properties, under hardware, there are no associated devices.  can someone help?
[21:14] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade. 10.10 to 11.04
[21:14] <cristian_c> I found this wiki page at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyTouch
[21:14] <indrora> x_: Some devices are poorly marked.
[21:14] <ionosphre> perfect guys, thanks
[21:14] <indrora> Can anyone tell me if doing an apt-get install nvidia-96 will cause 11.04 to die/
[21:15] <cristian_c> from the back of the keyboard you can see that this is the model Media Wireless Desktop (Y-RAC66) while on the wiki, including keyboards is supported Media Wireless Desktop (Y-RAE68)
[21:15] <FreezingCold> I can't unmount my filesystem!
[21:15] <FreezingCold> umount: /home/family/livecdtmp/edit/dev: device is busy.
[21:15] <x_> indrora, yea, it says max resolution 1366 by something so you are right, Guess I was in too big of a hurry when I bought it.
[21:15] <glebihan> nicofs, are you still there ?
[21:15] <nicofs> glebihan, as soon as i can, i will... but i guess i just wrecked the system...
[21:16] <glebihan> nicofs, what happened ?
[21:16] <cristian_c> I selected it from keytouch, and not all the keys worked
[21:16] <blumaa> hi, i'm having problems with my sound.  in my sound properties, under hardware, there are no associated devices.  can someone help?
[21:16] <Nitax> If I want to change the default permissions for new files in a directory, is the recommended way to set a umask with ACL or is there a better, ubuntu recommended way?
[21:16] <nicofs> glebihan, gksudo update-manager doesn't work
[21:17] <glebihan> nicofs, could you try do-release-upgrade from terminal and tell me what is says ?
[21:17] <cristian_c> but following the keytouch editor manual, I opened Keytouch Editor to make the keyboard supported
[21:17] <nicofs> glebihan, but i have a backup from when we started, so if i can't get this thing working, i'll just put that back up...
[21:17] <nicofs> glebihan, give me a few minutes - my work just got inbetween...
[21:18] <glebihan> nicofs, no problem
[21:18] <UbuN2> hello is there a chroot help channe;
[21:19] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade. 10.10 to 11.04
[21:19] <cristian_c> The nice thing is that keytouch editor recognizes perfectly all the keys on the keyboard and and suggests the default and right actions for each key
[21:19] <glebihan> UbuN2, I don't think there's a specific channel for that but you might get help here. Also have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[21:19] <urlin2u> UbuN2, I see none in the channel lists
[21:19] <UbuN2> i tried there glebihan
[21:20] <UbuN2> just cant get display to work
[21:20] <urlin2u> UbuN2, any info of cause woild help.
[21:20] <urlin2u> would
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> UbuN2:  a chroot help channel would be a little.. odd.. chroot is just a tool.     clarify what you are trying to do exactly
[21:21] <blumaa> hi, i'm having problems with my sound.  in my sound properties, under hardware, there are no associated devices.  can someone help?
[21:21] <blumaa> hello?
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> Jello!
[21:21] <UbuN2> No protocol specified cannot open display
[21:21] <zykotick9> blumaa, we see your question
[21:21] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade. 10.10 to 11.04
[21:21] <UbuN2> i get this when i try and do gnome-session
[21:21] <zykotick9> !repeat | lizbeth
[21:22] <muneeb> is evolution broken after update?
[21:22] <blumaa> so... does that mean nobody has any ideas?
[21:22] <cristian_c> added to the list all keys I saved the keyboard file called labtec_mwd_yrac66_kbd. At this point I open keytouch again to select the new keyboard introduced in the database. I choose it and try to set the keys
[21:22] <blumaa> the thing is that i have a dual boot and in windows the sound works fine....
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> UbuN2:   You might want to summarize what you are trying to accomplish.     and your situation.
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[21:23] <UbuN2> im trying to run gnome in chroot enviroment
[21:23] <zykotick9> UbuN2, why?
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> UbuN2:  and why are you trying to do this?
[21:23] <muneeb> any help with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/672729/
[21:23] <UbuN2> for learning purposes
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> You mean run 'X' in a chroot env. :) You will need to set up /dev/ and other things befor you chroot i imagine..
[21:23] <cristian_c> as the first test I set the mail key (but remember I tried other keys), choosing the program to use and the field is filled with evolution - component = mail
[21:24] <mister2> hey, how do i change the broadcast address of a wireless connection?
[21:24] <UbuN2> yes i have setup up my fstab
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> fstab? what does fstab have to do with it UbuN2
[21:24] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis, well, quite a lot - it's one element to chrooting
[21:25] <blumaa> ubottu, the thing is that I have no idea which one of those to do
[21:25] <UbuN2> all my procs are set but for somereason display wont start
[21:25] <zykotick9> blumaa, ubottu isn't a real person - it's a bot
[21:25] <nicofs> glebihan, this might actually take a moment...
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> zykotick9  be nice if he was a bit  more detailed.. but if hes just learning.. i guess he can go do some reading. :)
[21:25] <blumaa> ah
[21:26] <glebihan> nicofs, ok I may be there anymore when you come back then
[21:26] <cristian_c> And then I press Ok or Apply, but in both cases if I press the key, the computer goes into standby (and of course then asks me the password to unlock it), instead of opening evolution. Even if I fill out the field only with the string 'evolution' the same thing happens
[21:26] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade. 10.10 to 11.04
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> to get X going in a chroot - i imagine you have to set up /dev/ in the chroot also -> mount --rbind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev      (for one thing)
[21:26] <glebihan> nicofs, just to summarize, I think you have 2 distinct problems (the sudo one and the upgrade)
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> and /proc/ perhaps? been ages..
[21:27] <glebihan> nicofs, some reading I've done suggest that you try to run "gpg" as your normal user for the upgrade problem (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/78673)
[21:27] <glebihan> nicofs, meant I may *not* be there anymore
[21:27] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis, my chroot mounts http://paste.ubuntu.com/672731/
[21:27] <glebihan> nicofs, anyway, hope you get to solve those problems
[21:28] <mister2> hey, how do i change the broadcast address of a wireless connection?
[21:28] <nicofs> glebihan, the gpg thing was what i tried first...
[21:28] <cristian_c> Why with keytouch editor is the keyboard recognized and with keytouch not? How can I find a solution?
[21:28] <glebihan> nicofs, ok...
[21:28] <nicofs> glebihan, thanks for all your help - maybe i'll write to you 2morrow...
[21:29] <UbuN2> ok Dr_Willis
[21:29] <UbuN2> i will carry on
[21:29] <glebihan> nicofs, you're welcome and I'll be there tomorrow
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> UbuN2:  cant say that ive ever needed to chroot a user so that they run the Desktop in a chrooted enviroment..   a bit overkill  id say.
[21:30] <UbuN2> yeah but ok for learning when bored
[21:30] <UbuN2> 8-|
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> I can think of other things worth learning...
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[21:30] <UbuN2> give me some
[21:30] <UbuN2> 8-P
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> go learn regular expressions....
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> that will take you a week. :)
[21:31] <UbuN2> Hmm
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> and pay big rewards
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> since they are used Everywhere.....
[21:31]  * zykotick9 wishes he knew regexp better :(
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> gotta love being able to trim down a few dozen+ or more lines of code   into a single line with a regular expression..
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> zykotick9:  yep. the kin of thing you gotta learn/read/ then apply to really learn them
[21:32] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade. 10.10 to 11.04
[21:33] <Nitax> What is the ubuntu recommended method to set up default permissions for files created in a specific directory?
[21:33] <mister2> my wireless card is broadcasting on <IP_ADDRESS>, how do i change this back to the default <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:33] <zykotick9> Nitax, umask
[21:33] <zykotick9> Nitax, oh, "specific directory" i don't think umask will help.  good luck.
[21:33] <Nitax> zykotick9: and to make umask specific to that directory, for any user that creates files there?
[21:33] <alpha> I'm trying to install (from source) a program that tells me I need "gtk+-2.0", but what do I need to install (using synaptics) in order to have gtk+?
[21:34] <Nitax> I have a link that tells how to set up ACL w/ umask but I wasn't sure if that was the best way.
[21:34] <zykotick9> Nitax, i think ACLs i possibly the only way - not something i've played with
[21:34] <alpha> will libgtk-3.0 be enough or do I also need the -dev version?
[21:34] <zykotick9> s/i/is/
[21:35] <blumaa> helloo... i am running through the sound troubleshooting and it seems that i have no loaded modules for ALSA and no driver version... do i just add a new one? and if so, how?
[21:35] <zykotick9> alpha, you need the -dev versions to compile against - but not sure about the 2 vs 3 issue.
[21:35] <bsmith093> does any one know of an offline wikiepdia reader thats natively for ubuntu
[21:35] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | alpha
[21:36] <zykotick9> alpha, the above checkinstall can make "cleaning up" a LOT easier BTW
[21:36] <glebihan> alpha, if it's asking for gtk2, don't install gtk3
[21:36] <alpha> ok, thanks to all!
[21:36] <kernelpanicker> I added myself to the sudoers list, but I can't perform certain root tasks, what don't I understand?
[21:36] <zykotick9> kernelpanicker, you "should" have added your user to the admin group instead
[21:37] <blumaa> how do I find out what the name of my soundcards driver is?
[21:38]  * glebihan is done with sudoers for tonight...
[21:38] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade. 10.10 to 11.04
[21:38] <zykotick9> glebihan, lol
[21:38] <kernelpanicker> zykotick9: well... I'm setting up a server, and I'll be the admin for a while, what's the best practice here, after logging in as root.  In this case, it's a VPS, so I entered as root as it had 10.04 already installed... what's the first thing I should have done?
[21:38] <blumaa> sudo modprobe snd-Intelhda
[21:38] <blumaa> oops
[21:38] <blumaa> sorry
[21:39] <zykotick9> kernelpanicker, "sudo -i" to get a root terminal is best-Ubuntu practise
[21:39] <blumaa> how do I find out what the name of my soundcards driver is?
[21:39] <blumaa> anyone?
[21:39] <kernelpanicker> zykotick9, well, I had SSH in the first place, as this is hosted.
[21:40] <kernelpanicker> zykotick9, I assume I first create a user for me with adduser...
[21:40] <kernelpanicker> then provide myself sudo abilities?
[21:40] <blumaa> help?
[21:40] <zykotick9> kernelpanicker, if you have "root" then what do you need exactly?  You want your user to be able to "sudo"  if so, just add the user to the "admin" group
[21:40] <kernelpanicker> zykotick9, OK
[21:41] <lizbeth> I can't start the desktop environtment after upgrade. 10.10 to 11.04
[21:41] <jquinn> boo
[21:41] <zykotick9> lizbeth, every 3 minutes is too quick.  Perhaps providing somemore details, instead of repeating the same statement would also help.  good luck.
[21:42] <lizbeth> zykotick9, which kind of details might help?
[21:42] <lizbeth> Hp laptop, ati graphic card.
[21:42] <zykotick9> lizbeth, what graphics card you are using for starts - nice!
[21:42] <lizbeth> 64 bits.
[21:42] <lizbeth> ati but that is not the issue. I can run startx from the recovery mode as root and it works fine.
[21:43] <lizbeth> zykotick9,
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> so if you run startx as a user - it gives an error?
[21:43] <zykotick9> lizbeth, oh i can't help you (for 2 reasons now, but hopefully someone else can)
[21:44] <sveinse> Where can I find the setting which maximizes a frame if you move it to the top edge of the screen? I want to disable it
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> sveinse:  thats a compiz plugin, use the ccsm toolto manage those.
[21:45] <coz_> sveinse,  that would be under ccsm   disable the  "Grid" plugin
[21:45] <urlin2u> sveinse, if you unclick the window if you have pulled it down it will not fullscreen again.
[21:46] <coz_> some dont like "Aero snap"
[21:46] <sveinse> coz_: Excellent. Thanks. Done
[21:46] <coz_> sveinse,  no problem
[21:51] <vlt> Hello. Can anyone walk me through the steps needed to get my video card working? It’s an “nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]”. I already installed the pkg “nvidia-glx-173” but get “(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!” from Xorg. What to do?
[21:51] <Gredeu> i have to issues using fglrx.  is the open source better or worse in some ways ?
[21:52] <Gredeu> no issues
[21:52] <Gredeu> vlt, nouveau
[21:53] <alpha> when using checkinstall i get the message "Package webkit-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path." But I have libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 installed
[21:53] <vlt> Gredeu: ?
[21:53] <Gredeu> fglrx or radeon ?  which is better ?
[21:53] <Gredeu> vlt, i dont know how you'd switch to open source nouveau
[21:54] <vlt> Gredeu: I’m installing “nouveau-firmware” …
[21:55] <Gredeu> good luck
[21:55] <vlt> Gredeu: Done.
[21:55] <vlt> What’s next?
[21:55] <Gredeu> its handy to reenable ctrl-alt-backspace
[21:55] <zykotick9> vlt, FYI nouveau lacks 3d support
[21:56] <Gredeu> no one can ever get 3D right
[21:56] <zykotick9> Gredeu, and are YOU goint to assist vlt with that?  I hope so.  Also 3d is limited to very select cards.
[21:57] <Gredeu> zykotick9, i told him i could not help him
[21:57] <vlt> Ok, so how to get my Xorg working?
[21:58] <zykotick9> vlt, i can't help you with it - but your card does support nouveau 3d - http://www.h-node.com/videocards/catalogue/en/1/1/NVIDIA/undef/works_with_3D/undef/undef something to keep in mind if you can't get nvidia proprietary working
[22:00] <zykotick9> vlt, i wish i had your card - so i could test/try nouveau 3d -- too bad it's AGP, as I only have pcie at this point.
[22:03] <vlt> What lspci option shows me the VendorID:ProductID value of my card?
[22:03] <chili555> vlt, lspci -nn
[22:03] <coz_> vlt,    lspci | grep -i vga
[22:04] <coz_> vlt,  if you meant  video
[22:04] <FreezingCold> Did I screw up my LiveCD?
[22:04] <coz_> FreezingCold,  let me see it
[22:04] <urlin2u> FreezingCold, you tell us.
[22:04] <coz_> :)
[22:04] <FreezingCold> Actually never mind, I think it might just be QEMU
[22:05] <vlt> chili555, coz_: Thanks. It's exactly that video card: http://www.h-node.com/videocards/view/en/54/GeForce-FX-5200/1/1/NVIDIA/undef/works_with_3D/undef/undef
[22:05] <ivector> i cant install vmware workstation 6.5 in ubuntu 11.04 64bits, kernel 2.6.38-8. any ideas?
[22:05] <coz_> vlt,   ok the fx series is probably the lowest end card that can run most of compiz
[22:06] <coz_> vlt,  if you are wanting nouveau  I am not sure it could handle it  in 3d  I mean
[22:06] <zRomayn> how can i set a default nic in ubuntu, say i want eth1 to be default NIC
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> default for what? the nics send the info to the network they are connected to based on the ip being accessed...
[22:08] <urlin2u> zRomayn, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> theres the default route stuff.. but thats not really nic specific. but ip/route specific i belive.
[22:10] <JoshM> urlin2u, FYI i've burned 10.04 and the installation is going fine, no problems. 11.04, not working for me. I will attempt to upgrade after installation completes.
[22:10] <urlin2u> JoshM, cool hope the windows is intact I wondered it the 2 discs were not attached.
[22:11] <JoshM> urlin2u, there is no span if that's what you mean
[22:11] <urlin2u> if*
[22:11] <FreezingCold> I just booted up my LiveCD and "console-kit-daemon" crashed...  What is it?
[22:11] <zRomayn> Dr_Willis - i meant a primary NIC
[22:11] <urlin2u> JoshM, the grub boot is pointed at the mbr hd I hope.
[22:11] <FreezingCold> Crap, looks like I removed way too much from my LiveCD =(
[22:12] <FreezingCold> Getting a lot of crash reports
[22:12] <zRomayn> Dr_Willis - as far as I know a host will initiate connections from a primary or default NIC, if you have more than one NIC on the system
[22:12] <JoshM> urlin2u, yes, boot loader going on HDA, ubuntu on HDB. wish me luck.
[22:13] <urlin2u> JoshM, the grub should be in the same hd of install, generally. let us know the outcome.
[22:13] <JoshM> urlin2u, will do.
[22:14] <urlin2u> ;0
[22:16] <root-jr_pl> Hi, in C language how can I set the location of compiled file?
[22:17] <FreezingCold> Can I use the Minimal CD as a LiveCD?
[22:18] <root-jr_pl> ?
[22:19] <urlin2u> FreezingCold, no
[22:19] <urlin2u> FreezingCold, you could do your install with it and tweak what you want and make a iso then though.
[22:20] <FreezingCold> Actually never mind, I found the wiki page that tells me how :)
[22:20] <Austin`> This is what I get when I run glxinfo: http://pastie.org/2413738 My first guess is that it's an Xorg configuration problem, is there anyway to automatically generate a new one?
[22:20] <n-iCe> any driver guru guy?
[22:21] <n-iCe> My webcam built in my laptop VGN-CS170F seems to not be detected by ubuntu somehow
[22:21] <urlin2u> n-iCe, ask your question and find out ;-)
[22:21] <n-iCe> tried lspci and lsusb
[22:21] <n-iCe> But seems to not be listed!
[22:22] <root-jr_pl> Can anybody help me?
[22:22] <n-iCe> oh wait! cheese shows my camera but why is not listed in lspci or lsusb!!
[22:22] <Ellipsis753> Hey, I've removed the standard ubuntu applictions > places > system menu from the top left but was wondering if I can add back just the "places" part of that menu or something of that effect?
[22:23] <zRomayn> hello there, i have two NICs on my ubuntu. i want to make eth1 the primary NIC for network connectivity, is that possible?
[22:24] <urlin2u> root-jr_pl, very busy channel try #linux as well
[22:24] <urlin2u> root-jr_pl, actually ##linux
[22:24] <linxeh> root-jr_pl: thats a compiler specific thing
[22:25] <linxeh> and its not a linux thing at al
[22:25] <Jordan_U> root-jr_pl: Assuming you're using the command "gcc" to compile your source code, you would add the option "-o /path/to/file.out".
[22:25] <linxeh> all
[22:25] <root-jr_pl> oh thx ;)
[22:26] <urlin2u> linxeh, didn't say it was. ;-)
[22:27] <sanduz2> anyone know how to get pip/virtualenv working on python 3?
[22:27] <zRomayn>  hello there, i have two NICs on my ubuntu. i want to make eth1 the primary NIC for network connectivity, is that possible?
[22:27] <bugaloo> hi all
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> zRomayn:  you got both nic's plugged into the same network?
[22:28] <zRomayn> Dr_Willis, yes i do
[22:28] <linxeh> root-jr_pl: man gcc - lots of information in there, and there are lots of gcc guides out there
[22:28] <Ly3s> wtf
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> zRomayn:  dare i ask why? :)   Unless you are trying to double your bandwith...
[22:28] <Ly3s> hi all
[22:28] <markmt1988> hey
[22:29] <root-jr_pl> thx ;) i solved that
[22:29] <zRomayn> Dr_Willis - i want to use one iface for local networking, and the other one for internet access
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> zRomayn:  so one is plugged into your router? and the other to a hub for the local lan?
[22:30] <zRomayn> Dr_Willis, both are connected to the same LAN switch
[22:31] <bugaloo> hi all... I have a dv2000 hp notebook, and I just can't see my headphones volume control, also my speakers doesn't mute when I plug the headphones. Plus, if I choose to sound only goes to the right speaker, it only goes to my right ear on headphones. if I put the sound 'center', it goes to the both ears AND speakers. Does anyone knows how can I configure it right? Using ubuntu 10.04 but the problems happened since 8.10 :\
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> zRomayn:  that dosent really make a lot of sence to me then..    from my networking basics that i know. you are basically splitting the stuff up then mergeingit back at teh switch.  no real gains of any type.
[22:32] <bugaloo> zRomayn, sorry, I dont know if I got it... you want to change eth0 and eth1?
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> I think theres a #networking channel that knows a lot more then i do on the topic. :) i just do basic home lans
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> I think we may need a drawing.. :)
[22:32] <zRomayn> Dr_Willis - so aside from the performance/security/implementation point of view, is there any way to make eth1 the primary iface in ubuntu
[22:33] <zRomayn> ubuntu sets eth0 as the primary iface
[22:33] <urlin2u> zRomayn, you trying to bypass the blocks at work set by the IT dept?
[22:33] <zRomayn> urlin2u, this is my home lab
[22:33] <bugaloo> zRomayn, , take a look at /etc/network/interfaces... change it there and see if that's what you need
[22:33] <zRomayn> bugaloo, i played with that file and it doesn't let me do it
[22:34] <alpha> I have just installed vimprobable and tabbed. In order to make everything work I need to do the following steps: 1. I run  tabbed (in terminal) which opens a window and gives (in the terminal) the windowid. 2. I copy the windowid and open  a new tab in the terminal and write "vimprobable -e [copy in windowid]". How do I combine these all in one single command? NOTE: When running tabbed I do get some error messages about missing fontsets, but t
[22:34] <alpha> he last line contains the windowid
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273514                  Two network cards, one for internet, one for lan - Ubuntu Forums
[22:34] <urlin2u> zRomayn, k I remember your stuff.
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> zRomayn:  why does it matter which is 'primary' ?  (a bit of a vague term)
[22:36] <zRomayn> Dr_Willis, say my host is called A, and then i want to ping A from host B. I want host A to reply to host B via its primary iface
[22:36] <bugaloo> I think he wants the "primary" card to be the eth0, right zRomayn ?
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure where this term Primary came from...
[22:36] <bugaloo> zRomayn, now I got it
[22:36] <zRomayn> bugaloo, i want the primary to be eth1
[22:37] <bugaloo> zRomayn,  this is only routing
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> bugaloo:  right.. routeing.. :)
[22:37] <bugaloo> you dont need to worry about who is eth0 or eth1
[22:37] <zRomayn> there's gotta be an /etc/rc file, let me check
[22:37] <bugaloo> you just need to say which network is in what interface
[22:37] <bugaloo> like.... <IP_ADDRESS>/8 eth1     <IP_ADDRESS> eth0
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> host b has 2 interfaces if it has 2 nics.
[22:38] <bugaloo> Dr_Willis, it could have two interfaces with 1 nic, hehe... a virtual one, like eth0:0
[22:38]  * Dr_Willis wonders if we are refering to the default route..
[22:38] <bugaloo> Dr_Willis, I though so, hehe
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> but ive never seen anyone put 2 nics tothe same lan.. always to 2 differnt lans.... so differnt ip/ranges.
[22:39] <bugaloo> zRomayn, let us to know... what are the IP address of both interfaces?
[22:40] <bugaloo> zRomayn, can you post your "ifconfig" output on pastebin?
[22:40] <zRomayn> guys, guys, i'm a network admin, and i have plenty of network experience. i'm just new to ubuntu/linux and don't quite seem to find where i can change the primary network interfaces
[22:40] <zRomayn> let's put it this way, the order of ifaces
[22:41] <bugaloo> zRomayn, the problem is... we dont know what you mean by "primary iface"
[22:41] <bugaloo> zRomayn, so I'm going to ask you again: you want to invert eth0 and eth1?
[22:42] <zRomayn> if you open up the network information on a windows host that has more than 1 iface, you will notice that it will set one as primary, or first in the list, and the other one as secondary. that's where i'm going with this.
[22:42] <zRomayn> bugaloo, yes, i want to invert them, if that makes more sense to you
[22:42] <bugaloo> zRomayn, actually it doesn't make sense "why" to invert it... it doesn't really matter which one is the 0 and which is 1
[22:43] <bugaloo> but if you want it, you can try that file I told you... /etc/network/interfaces...
[22:43] <bugaloo> zRomayn, also... both nics are the same model?
[22:44] <scythefwd> isn't that just a mapping in /etc/interfaces/network bugaloo
[22:44] <bugaloo> zRomayn, if they're different models (and modules), you can unload the modules, and then load the modules in right order...
[22:44] <bugaloo> I guess it'd be a stupid solution, but anyway, hehe
[22:44] <bugaloo> scythefwd, it depends... I'm assuming he's using a server, not gnome
[22:44] <zRomayn> bugaloo, i tried that file and it is not what i'm looking for. and the ifaces aren't the same model. additionally, i tried playing with this file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules with no success
[22:45] <bugaloo> zRomayn, the first module loaded will be eth0
[22:45] <bugaloo> you can try it
[22:45] <zRomayn> well, i guess i'll try playing with this later. i'm just going to play with my son now.
[22:45] <bugaloo> another stupid solution would be change the network cables, hehe
[22:45] <bugaloo> and IPs of course
[22:45] <scythefwd> zromayn, if not, you can open yourbox and usually the mac address is listed on the card (it is on my intels and my linksys cards I had back in the day)
[22:45] <scythefwd> bug, that changes the structure and function of the /etc/interfaces/network file?
[22:46] <bugaloo> scythefwd, good question... i'm not sure now
[22:46] <scythefwd> bug, would swapping pci slots have any effect
[22:46] <bugaloo> scythefwd, pci slots? I dont think so
[22:48] <scythefwd> bug, how are the interfaces identified and then numbered?  Could it be by bus location, in which the PCI slots could effect the numbering.  If it is alphabetical by mac, then you may be out of luck, if it is a mapping somewhere, then it can be edited
[22:48] <Sebo> How can I set up ubuntu to run some other program at tty4. For instance I'd like to run 'ssh somehost' there insted the default login?
[22:48] <MACscr> so i use nautilus all the time for mounting ftp folders, is there a way for me to export that list of sites and its passwords? I need to import it into another app
[22:49] <bugaloo> scythefwd, well... the first module loaded is the first (eth0)... but when the interfaces use the same module, then I dont know
[22:49] <bugaloo> it's random to me, hehe
[22:50] <bugaloo> but when you have two equal NICs, I think it's easier to change the network cable between the two boards :P
[22:50] <LogicallyDashing> lololololol
[22:50] <scythefwd> There is some order, has to be or you're nics and the IP bindings would flop back and forth when you reboot
[22:51] <scythefwd> it'd make sense to use the MAC since they are unique (well, supposedly... IT legend is that there was a screwup at a nic factory and they stamped a few hundred cards with the same mac way back when)
[22:51] <Sebo> Or anything ... as for instance # su someuser  if I'd like to alocate this tty to that user and just not ask for his password
[22:51] <bugaloo> maybe
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> scythefwd:  those are either udev rules.. or which module loads first.
[22:52] <BrandonBolton> Hello, is it easy to set up a domain with Linux?
[22:52] <bugaloo> BrandonBolton, easy or hard is a subjective concept, hehe
[22:53] <bugaloo> Sebo, to users, you can use the .bashrc
[22:54] <urlin2u> bugaloo, and a dichotomy.
[22:54] <BrandonBolton> bugaloo, I like the way you think. I challenge is pretty easy sometimes, it will just be the whole thing of learning an new OS and command line associated with it.
[22:54] <scythefwd> dr - my point was more that there is a logical set of rules that will always identify the same nic as eth0
[22:54] <bugaloo> BrandonBolton, well... you 'll have to configure DNS service, that's not trivial to some people
[22:54] <Austin`> I get a segfault when I run glxinfo: http://pastie.org/2413871 any ideas?
[22:55] <BrandonBolton> bugaloo, That will be the most hardest part most likely. Windows made it a little to easy and a little to easy to crash, also.
[22:56] <bugaloo> BrandonBolton, I dont know about windows config, never did it
[22:56] <scythefwd> dr - besides, wouldn't to intel pro cards use the same module loaded twice?  The module would have to have some way of determining which nic was which, and while MAC is probably not it, there is something unique associated with that card
[22:57] <BrandonBolton> bugaloo, It is just clicking one button on the Server Manager. It is pretty straightforward. What distro do you recommend to create a domain in? Perhaps any great sources to learn from on the topic? :)
[22:58] <bugaloo> hehe
[22:58] <bugaloo> BrandonBolton, you can use any GUI to configure DNS on linux, but I prefer just to edit the files
[22:58] <JoshM> urlin2u, grub config is fine, windows starts up fine, no problems. gonna upgrade to 11.04 later on.
[22:59] <BrandonBolton> bugaloo, To Google and Youtube it is ;) I know what my plans for today is ;)
[22:59] <silverarrow> does someone have time to walk me through the steps of adding ppa and upgrading minitube, it is turned out to be majorly diffucult, for a mere mortal
[22:59] <bugaloo> BrandonBolton, now I'm confused hehe
[23:00] <bugaloo> didn't get what's the point
[23:00] <bugaloo> sorry, maybe it's my bad english :)
[23:00] <scythefwd> and in the same vein, what does ppa stand for
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  which ppa were you trying to use?
[23:01] <BrandonBolton> bugaloo, I made it confusing, sorry, so I am just going to go try and set up a Domain with file services and Active Directory and all of that good stuff. :)
[23:01] <bugaloo> BrandonBolton, but you want to host a domain that owns to you, right?
[23:02] <silverarrow> Dr_willis, I think I tried at least three different ways to add ppa,
[23:02] <BrandonBolton> bugaloo, Sorry, I wasn't thinking of a web server I am thinking about a full on network running in my home. I just referred to it as a domain. v.v
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  which PPA were you using.. theres really only one way to add one thats normally used...    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[23:03] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis, I have to look it up again, I've been on this half the day
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> https://launchpad.net/~chimerarevo/+archive/minitube is first hit i saw...   You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:chimerarevo/minitube
[23:03] <silverarrow> mosca roberto something
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> so you would replace the ppa:user/ppa-name with     ppa:chimeravo/minitube when you run teh command
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> sudo add-apt-repository    ppa:chimerarevo/minitube
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> then update/upgrade/install the program
[23:05] <bugaloo> BrandonBolton, oh ok
[23:05] <bugaloo> got it now
[23:06] <sanduz2> does anyone know how to get pip working for python 3? :( i cant figure it out. im on Natty
[23:07] <genoveva> ls
[23:07] <Austin`> I'm trying to figure out why glxinfo is seg faulting, here's my Xorg.0.log file: http://pastie.org/2413929
[23:08] <bugaloo> Austin`, that's really... really vague
[23:09] <Austin`> bugaloo: I don't really have any other information
[23:09] <bugaloo> hi all... I have a dv2000 hp notebook, and I just can't see my headphones volume control, also my speakers doesn't mute when I plug the headphones. Plus, if I choose to sound only goes to the right speaker, it only goes to my right ear on headphones. if I put the sound 'center', it goes to the both ears AND speakers. Does anyone knows how can I configure it right? Using ubuntu 10.04 but the problems happened since 8.10
[23:10] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis: I cannot make it work
[23:10] <Ellipsis753> Hey, I've removed the standard ubuntu applictions > places > system menu from the top left but was wondering if I can add back just the "places" part of that menu or something of that effect?
[23:12] <Q-jackechan_> anybody home?
[23:12] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~chimeravo/+archive/minitube: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[23:12] <Vitor> hi there
[23:13] <Q-jackechan_> i need help getting a plugin working in firefox
[23:13] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, what plugin?
[23:13] <Q-jackechan_> it's a .msi =/
[23:13] <bugaloo> oO
[23:13] <Q-jackechan_> file is named: CambridgeSoft_ChemDraw_McGraw-Hill_<IP_ADDRESS>7.msi.zip
[23:13] <Vitor> can someone tell me why when I install ubuntu or any version of linux on my eee and I try to enter my wireless the system freezes?
[23:14] <silverarrow> I could say something nasty about computer issues right now
[23:14] <FreezingCold> I currently have no desktop manager, if I install Xfce will it install by default?
[23:14] <FreezingCold> *will it start up
[23:15] <bugaloo> Vitor, I had a eeepc with ubuntu and I had no problem with that... but it was some time ago, maybe with 8.10
[23:15] <silverarrow> Vitor, no, a bit unusual
[23:15] <Q-jackechan_> advice on the street so far has been to get a virtual box, install windows, install a browser, and install the plugin in that browser.
[23:15] <Q-jackechan_> anyone have a simpler solution?
[23:15] <Vitor> i have read somenething on a forum about some update to the kernel
[23:15] <Vitor> but i dont remember it anymore
[23:15] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, wine?
[23:16] <ctrldan> PRIVMSG
[23:16] <Q-jackechan_> Bugaloo, how?
[23:16] <Vitor> its very wierd cause i had already installed ubuntu on the eee befire
[23:16] <Vitor> before
[23:16] <Vitor> *
[23:16] <Vitor> but now when i do it behaves like that
[23:17] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, try to install windows firefox via wine
[23:17] <bugaloo> I think it's simpler than virtualbox
[23:17] <FreezingCold> How can I add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:koshi/xfce-4.8 without using add-apt-repository?
[23:17] <Q-jackechan_> i just started apt-get wine
[23:17] <bugaloo> and you need less space, hehe
[23:17] <Vitor> i have net on cable but if i try wireless it freezes the computer
[23:17] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, if you have wine installed, try to download the firefox intaller for windows, and start it with: wine ./firefox-installer.exe
[23:17] <Vitor> i tryed this on ubuntu kubuntu and fedora and backtrack
[23:17] <bugaloo> it should work
[23:18] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, wine installation is in progress. how do i install firefox in wine?
[23:18] <lyrae> Hi i just upgraded ubuntu from 11.04. Not digging the vertical app/sidebar at all. anyway to remove it?
[23:18] <Vitor> at log in
[23:18] <luigi> lyrae: Try logging out and selecting "Ubuntu Classic"
[23:18] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, if you have wine installed, try to download the firefox intaller for windows, and start it with: wine ./firefox-installer.exe
[23:18] <Vitor> choose gnome classic
[23:19] <silverarrow> Vitor, puppy linux often handles these quirks differently, but it its not a reguar full installation distro, but really full distro in other respects
[23:19] <Q-jackechan_> will that work if i save it to the desktop? or will i have to cd around a bunch?
[23:19] <bugaloo> I hated the new layout  :\  just downgraded to 10.10 because of it
[23:19] <lyrae> luigi, thanks. are there many more changes? this kind of resembles the ubutu for netbook i installed months ago. Would i be better off switching to xununtu?
[23:19] <lyrae> yeah im not a fan
[23:20] <Vitor> silverarrow: i really would like to have ubuntu working, i tought about wireless card prob but it cant be or wouldnt work on windows too
[23:20] <luigi> lyrae: If you want my PERSONAL opinion, the interface I'm a big fan of on my netbook is GNOME 3. It's not supported here though. There are other distros that offer gnome 3 support officially though, like Fedora, OpenSUSE, and Arch linux.
[23:21] <silverarrow> Vitor, probably driver issues, but weird having the entire puter freeze
[23:21] <Q-jackechan_> anyone got a url for the windows firefox dl? it's autodetecting ubuntu and feeding me tarballs.
[23:21] <silverarrow> Vitor, makes me think it's something more
[23:21] <lyrae> luigi, thanks
[23:21] <lion42> Q-jackechan_, if there's a linux version...
[23:21] <lion42> why not use it?
[23:21] <Vitor> silverarrow: yeah but i have no ideia what
[23:22] <shinsuke> hi. i encrypted partitions with luks. now i formated those partitions. but after reformating them they are still displayed as encrypted. how can i get rid of this encryption? thanks.
[23:22] <Vitor> silverarrow: on windows works so no card prob
[23:22] <Q-jackechan_> cause i'm trying to install it in whien loin42
[23:22] <Vitor> and on all distros same preob
[23:22] <Q-jackechan_> wine*
[23:22] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, below the download link, there is a "other version" link
[23:22] <Vitor> the wierd thing is that i had it working before just on now its giving this prob
[23:23] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo. sweet. it's giving me the option to directly open it with wine. should i proceed?
[23:23] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, sure
[23:24] <Q-jackechan_> ach, it's not marked as executable. how do i do that again?
[23:24] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, only save it then
[23:24] <Austin`> Is there any way to completely reconfigure Xorg/graphics without reinstalling?
[23:24] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, dl in progress
[23:25] <bugaloo> k
[23:25] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, dl complete, now what?
[23:25] <Vitor> silverarrow: tomorrow i came again thanks for yout help
[23:26] <Aric> 11.04 :: How long should it be taking to make this USB drive?  been going for 40min+
[23:26] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, right click and open with wine
[23:26] <philipp__> someone know a real good porn page?
[23:26] <Q-jackechan_> ugh... i cant find where it saved it.
[23:27] <Q-jackechan_> sorry, this is a new install
[23:27] <Q-jackechan_> i havent set my prefeferences
[23:27] <philipp__> saved what?
[23:28] <szal> philipp__: pr0n is offtopic here, apart from being illegal in some jurisdictions
[23:28] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, o nvm.
[23:28] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, found it. desktop hadn't refreshed for some reason
[23:28] <philipp__> how can porno be illegal? o_O
[23:29] <bugaloo> hahaha
[23:29] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, ok i did it. it's still babbling about how it dosent have the exicutable bit.
[23:29] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, how do i change that again?
[23:29] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, right click the installer and go to properties...
[23:29] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, then permissions
[23:30] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo *faccepalms* of course. right. that was simple.
[23:30] <Q-jackechan_> ok now what
[23:30] <bugaloo> try again open with wine
[23:30] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo; on it
[23:31] <PythonSnake> Hello
[23:31] <FreezingCold> I'm trying to find the repository for Xfce, but I can't seem to.  I tried I'm trying to find the repository for Ubuntu, but I can't seem to. I tried http://ppa.launchpad.net/koshi/xfce-4.8/ubuntu natty main
[23:31] <philipp__> where is the damn offtopic?
[23:31] <PythonSnake> What is kernel version of stable repo
[23:31] <FreezingCold> copy paste fail
[23:31] <PythonSnake> !give philipp__ offtopic
[23:31]  * nmichalo gives philipp__ a trout
[23:31] <Q-jackechan_> ok, now how do i install the plugin?
[23:31] <PythonSnake> !offtopic > philipp__
[23:32] <FreezingCold>  I'm trying to find the repository for Xfce, but I can't seem to. I tried http://ppa.launchpad.net/koshi/xfce-4.8/ubuntu natty main
[23:32] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, ??
[23:32] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo; install successfull. firefox is online
[23:33] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, i now need to get CambridgeSoft_ChemDraw_McGraw-Hill_<IP_ADDRESS>7.msi.zip forcefed into it
[23:33] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, ok, now try to install your plugin like if you were using windows :)
[23:33] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, I dont know... I was just helping you to install a windows version of firefox under linux
[23:33] <bugaloo> if you dont know how to install a firefox plugin, I'd sugest you the #firefox channel :)
[23:34] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo. lol. they sent me here. roflol.
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> unzip that msi, drag/drop it onto firefox.
[23:34] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, they sent you here because you had a linux/windows situation
[23:35] <bugaloo> but well... maybe someone want/know how to help you... i'm not good with firefox windows plugins
[23:35] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, how do i unzip it?
[23:35] <bugaloo> lol
[23:36] <bugaloo> you're really new to linux, right? haha
[23:36] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, er, not exactly.
[23:36] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, just not really experianced.
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> unzip command, rightg click extract ...., unp command..  double click.. see what happens...
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> prob a dozen other ways. :)
[23:37] <teage> hello, I want to edit my cursor image. cant open the image file it just says unknown file type. tried gimp inkscape and google. nothing is working.
[23:37] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo, either way... uh, now what?
[23:37] <Austin`> Anyone know how to uninstall ATI Catalyst Control Center?
[23:37] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, read Dr_Willis
[23:37] <Q-jackechan_> ???
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> !info unp | Q-jackechan_
[23:38] <Q-jackechan_> ok, extract to where? firefox needs to have those files right?
[23:38] <Cromb> hello?
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> Q-jackechan_:   zip that msi, drag/drop it onto firefox.
[23:38] <bugaloo> Dr_Willis, really? that I never tried, haha
[23:39] <Q-jackechan_> where's the firefox i'm dropping it into exactly...? O_o
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> works in windows.....
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> you RUN firefox.. drag iot to the window..
[23:39] <bugaloo> I see
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> or use its menus to load the extension
[23:39] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, step by step... did you unzip ?
[23:39] <Q-jackechan_> no
[23:39] <Q-jackechan_> do i need to?
[23:39] <bugaloo> yes
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> try it and see...
[23:39] <Q-jackechan_> ok, gimme the code again?
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> takes all of 5 sec to drag the .zip to the ff window...
[23:40] <bugaloo> ok, i'm done... he's joking
[23:41] <Q-jackechan_> someone said some sort of unpack code up there
[23:41] <Q-jackechan_> what was it?
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> you tried just double clicking on the zip archive? or right clicking on it?
[23:42] <bsmith093> does anyone know of any good podcatchers that use wget?
[23:42] <Q-jackechan_> i opened it, it's in some sort of archive manager
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> so drag the file to the desktop then...
[23:42] <Q-jackechan_> ah.
[23:43] <alpuch3> hola soy nuevo en estoy alguien puede decirme como usar esto :d
[23:43] <Q-jackechan_> r u shitting me? it was that simple?
[23:43] <Q-jackechan_> >_< i feel like a douche
[23:43] <xangua> !language | Q-jackechan_
[23:43] <Q-jackechan_> right then, moving on....
[23:43] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, i feel it of you too, hehe
[23:43] <Q-jackechan_> oops. sorry.
[23:43] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, open firefox and go to plugins window now
[23:44] <xangua> !es | alpuch3
[23:44] <Q-jackechan_> sorry about that! didn't know. my bad. slip of the toung. wont happen again!!!
[23:44] <bugaloo> that's ok
[23:44] <bugaloo> i'm "monkeying" you :P
[23:44] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, did you find plugin options on firefox?
[23:45] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so plugins window... *begins ferreting around to figure out where that is*
[23:45] <di3gopa> Hello guys, i am using the ati propietary drivers and it is not recognizing the highest resolution of my screen, how can i manually add a resolution? Thanks!
[23:45] <imbored> is it allowed to ask for a good porn page here?
[23:45] <Q-jackechan_> add-ons?
[23:45] <bugaloo> add-ons, yes
[23:45] <Q-jackechan_> plugins tab?
[23:45] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, sorry, I'm from brazil and I use firefox in portuguese, maybe some words are different than I think :)
[23:45] <bugaloo> yes, plugin tab
[23:46] <imbored> heeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyy someone can recommend me a IRC smalltalk chat????
[23:46] <Q-jackechan_> ok firefox is giving me a big newsflash... "you dont have any plugins installed"
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> time to explore your firefox menus.. OR... just drag/drop the thing into the firefox window...
[23:46] <Q-jackechan_> so, now what.
[23:46] <alpuch3> carlna y donde capturo esto
[23:46] <xangua> !ot | imbored
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> or tell it to install one.. and point it to that one.
[23:46] <bugaloo> Dr_Willis, I just toke a look on my firefox and I didn't see this option too
[23:47] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, maybe you can just go File -> open...
[23:47] <bugaloo> and try to open the .msi file
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> or.... just drag/drop the msi file onto the open firefox window......
[23:47] <FreezingCold> Should I go for Fluxbox or enlightenment for my LiveCD?  It will be used to manager GPG keys
[23:47] <imbored> xamangua i dont wanna disguss other topics i wanna chat and prefere sexual themes -.-
[23:48] <Q-jackechan_> gah, where is this firefox window you keep talking about? i keep trying to drag it into the firefox gui... nilch
[23:48] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, I dont think this will work on wine
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> Q-jackechan_:  right in front of you.. You open firefox... drag the file onto it..
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> it may not work with wine.. but it might
[23:48] <bugaloo> Dr_Willis, he's using nautilus with wine firefox... I dont think it'll work
[23:48] <Q-jackechan_> ah
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> takes all of 4 sec to find out.. been taking 40 min to get him to try..
[23:49] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, try the main firefox windows... only File -> Open and try to open the msi file
[23:49] <Q-jackechan_> um, i found an option to install from file...
[23:49] <Q-jackechan_> and i tried to load it directly
[23:49] <bugaloo> ok, try it
[23:49] <Cornell> I'm running ubuntu 10.4, there's a tracker indexing application.  It's icon lately has been flashing.  The status indicates 0 items indexed.  I've tried disabling it.  Didn't seem to work.  system monitor says tracker-applet is > 300 MB in memory and 98% cpu usage.  Tried to open the preferences again, but system is unresponsive.  I also, on a perhaps unrelated matter, upgraded to firefox 6.  Anyway, I clicked on the power icon and eve
[23:49] <Q-jackechan_> but it said the file is corrupt
[23:49] <Q-jackechan_> ... i just downloaded it
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> point it to the actual .zip file perhaps.. it MIGHT be bad..
[23:49] <bazhang> imbored, wrong network for that
[23:49] <Q-jackechan_> k, i'll try that
[23:49] <bugaloo> true
[23:50] <Cornell> Any chance the messing with tracker or installing firefox 6 could have caused the machine to even boot into grub?
[23:50] <Q-jackechan_> still no gold
[23:50] <imbored> bazhagng wahts the right one?
[23:50] <bugaloo> imbored, try eu.undernet.org... lots of sex channels there :P
[23:50] <bazhang> imbored, no idea, this is ubuntu support only. please take it elsewhere
[23:51] <Q-jackechan_> i'm gonna try dling it again.
[23:51] <Cornell> ... to not even boot into grub?
[23:51] <Q-jackechan_> and pointing it to the new zip
[23:52] <bugaloo> yes, maybe
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> Q-jackechan_:  cut/paste the url to the .zip in firefox.. let it download it. :)
[23:52] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, did you test it on windows?
[23:52] <Q-jackechan_> http://www.mhhe.com/sem/chemdraw/
[23:53] <Q-jackechan_> i dont have access to windows atm, but it damn well better work
[23:53] <Q-jackechan_> it's my organic chemistry online homework
[23:53] <bugaloo> that's ok
[23:54] <bugaloo> just curious
[23:54] <Q-jackechan_> i mean, so far as actually being a functional file and such
[23:54] <th0r> Q-jackechan_: I don't see a linux version on that webpage
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> Browsers: IE 6, IE 7, IE 8, Firefox 3.5, Firefox 3.6  ·  Only 32-bit browsers are supported.
[23:54] <Q-jackechan_> ... thanks for the big news there thor. >_>
[23:54] <bugaloo> haha
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> and what version of FF are you using?
[23:54] <bugaloo> guys, that's why he installed windows version of firefox on linux
[23:54] <bugaloo> Dr_Willis, that's how it started :P
[23:55] <Q-jackechan_> whatever came with a fresh install of narwhal about 5 days ago
[23:55] <th0r> silly me, I thought this was #ubuntu
[23:55] <Q-jackechan_> should be latest
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> I hate to tell you this.. but a  .msi is NOT a firefox extension...
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> its a windows executable.... you install with wine
[23:55] <Q-jackechan_> sorry th0r, i'm just a little annoyed at the moment. i need to get these working in ubuntu
[23:56] <Q-jackechan_> i apologize for snapping at you
[23:56] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, Dr_Willis has a point... try to open the msi file using wine, just like you installed firefox
[23:56] <Jasonn> lol @ who ever was thinking a .msi is a ff extension
[23:56] <Q-jackechan_> >_< that'd be me
[23:56] <Jasonn> oh
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> wine msiexec /i xyz.msi
[23:56] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so then i have to install it in i-explore i'd wager.
[23:56] <th0r> bugaloo: he will have to install the windows software installer first, it isn't part of wine
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> wine can install msi's
[23:57] <Q-jackechan_> guide me o linux gods. cause i have no idea what your talking about.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> steam comes as a msi.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> wine msiexec /i xyz.msi               <------------------------------------------------  to install a msi
[23:57] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: Plus, if you are running a game, I would NOT recommend using wine
[23:57] <Q-jackechan_> it's not a game. it's chemistry homework online
[23:58] <Jasonn> is its a complex program?
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> Alternatively:
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> wine start whatever.msi
[23:58] <Jasonn> if you really need it, then I would strongly recommend running winxp as a dual boot, or as a vm
[23:58] <Q-jackechan_> hold on, so i put wine msiexec /i [filename].msi into terminal?
[23:58] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: ^
[23:58] <Q-jackechan_> i dont have winxp =/
[23:59] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: Good luck running something you rely on under wine then..
[23:59] <Q-jackechan_> it's not really all that intense of a program (i hope)