[04:06] <regeya> LinuxN00b: I thought you just said the LiveCD wouldn't boot.
[04:06] <regeya> LinuxN00b: how can you try to format the drive as reiserfs if you can't even get the livecd to boot...ergh...my head hurts. :-(
[04:06] <tripppy> is there a repair function with the dapper live/install cd?
[04:07] <TWD> so my little sister's bf and his 2 cronies are over playing halo2 ad my little sister just sits down next to them and watches.
[04:07] <profoX`> tripppy: what do you need to repair
[04:07] <blackice> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:07] <blackice> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:07] <blackice> i got a  error when i did that
[04:07] <tripppy> profoX`: the kernel i think... im getting kernel panic error's
[04:07] <yallax> might aswell ask where all the smart ppl is:)   could anyone suggest a good network monitor for my domain using server 2003/winxp? needs to be automatic and report faults and such
[04:07] <profoX`> tripppy: well, what did you do ?
[04:07] <LinuxN00b> I have to use the alternate, not live-CD install
[04:07] <regeya> is it saturday night?  oh, aye, so it is.
[04:08] <profoX`> blackice: you need the universe/multiverse repo first
[04:08] <profoX`> !repositories
[04:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:08] <profoX`> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:08] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:08] <blackice> how do i do that
[04:08] <tripppy> profoX`: i turned my ubuntu box off last night. now it boots but with kernel errors, such as
[04:08] <stiv2k> is there any reason why my wifi card seems to be considerably weaker in linux than in windows? this is an atheros card (i believe im using madwifi drivers from the livecd)...im far from the AP, it connects in windows, but wont hold a connection in linux???
[04:08] <tripppy> kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root on unkown block (0,0)
[04:08] <profoX`> blackice: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[04:09] <profoX`> tripppy: sounds like your HD is messy ? did you shutdown properly?
[04:09] <watson540> Hey guys does anyone have one of those real fancy digital camera's that output raw .cr2 files? it's like a 9 megapixel camera, but I'm trying to figure out what to open them with!
[04:09] <LinuxN00b>  I have to use the alternate, not live-CD to try to install
[04:10] <tripppy> profoX`: no. it froze up so i did a hard shutdown
[04:11] <TheUni> how can i install GRUB to a pen drive?
[04:11] <roostishaw> anyone, what file(s) does a virtual machine use to launch? in other words, what files do i modify so that all users can run a specific VM?
[04:11] <roostishaw> *permissions
[04:12] <profoX`> tripppy: oh.. try booting the live cd and in a terminal window try: "sudo fdisk -l" to know where your linux partition is (like /dev/hda1 for example) and then do: "sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1" and pray that it will recover the filesystem for you, otherwise you might need "stronger" tools
[04:12] <Mattchewie> LinuxN00b, If I was going to "make sure" that it wasn't hardware related,  I would download another small live cd (see zenwalk) and try to run through their installer and such. If it bombs on that too...something tells me you got Hardware issues somewhere
[04:12] <LinuxN00b> brb
[04:13] <tripppy> profoX",  sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1
[04:13] <tripppy> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[04:13] <tripppy> /: recovering journal
[04:13] <bcowan> anyone got ndiswrapper working under edgy?
[04:14] <tripppy> profoX`: /: clean, 124573/1210048 files, 812218/2419782 blocks
[04:14] <stiv2k> is there any reason why my wifi card seems to be considerably weaker in linux than in windows? this is an atheros card (i believe im using madwifi drivers from the livecd)...im far from the AP, it connects in windows, but wont hold a connection in linux???
[04:14] <ljlolel_> i'm currently in the live cd, how do i install, say, only the base system?
[04:14] <roostishaw> bcowan, try '/join #ubuntu+1'  :D
[04:15] <profoX`> ljlolel_: i don't think you have that option.. go look for another distribution if you only want a base system, like archlinux
[04:15] <profoX`> maybe the expert install (alternate cd) has that option, i'm not sure
[04:16] <profoX`> tripppy: that sounds good, right?
[04:16] <profoX`> tripppy: is it still busy with checking?
[04:16] <sethk> ljlolel_, live disks are for running live.  Install disks are for installing.  Use an install disk
[04:16] <tripppy> profoX`: hopefully. just going to save those commands you have givin me then ill reboot
[04:17] <sethk> ljlolel_, you'll have obvious options for installing base, default, server, or custom
[04:17] <james__> what exactly does the command 'rmmod ndiswrapper' do?
[04:17] <gregg__> ljlolel_: do a 'server'
[04:17] <profoX`> sethk: in the alternate cd ?
[04:17] <LinuxN00b> arrgghhh! This makes me reeeaalllly mad
[04:17] <gregg__> ljlolel_: do a 'server' install. that'll be a basic system.
[04:17] <profoX`> sethk: because the desktop cd doesn't have that much options afaik
[04:17] <Mattchewie> james_; just removes ndiswrapper module from the kernel
[04:17] <sethk> profoX`, I'm pretty sure that the normal one in expert mode is good enough
[04:17] <profoX`> james__: it removes the kernel module ndiswrapper
[04:18] <profoX`> james__: ndiswrapper is something to run wireless networking cardsusing windows drivers
[04:18] <sethk> profoX`, definitely has the server install, the minimal install, and the expert install modes.
[04:18] <james__> does that mean, in other words, that it disables ndiswrapper?
[04:18] <roostishaw> anyone, what file(s) does a virtual machine use to launch? in other words, what file's permissions do i modify so that all users can run a specific VM?
[04:18] <sethk> profoX`, might need both CDs for the most recent release, though
[04:19] <Mattchewie> james_; sorta, is disables it but if you system is setup to load it on startup...it will load it on next reboot
[04:19] <sethk> roostishaw, depends on which virtual machine is running, obviously
[04:19] <profoX`> sethk: yes the desktop cd isn't that advanced (live cd + live installer)
[04:19] <sethk> roostishaw, the java virtual machine is called java
[04:19] <profoX`> james__: you can blacklist the module if you want in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:19] <roostishaw> sethk, i mean a vmware vm
[04:19] <sethk> profoX`, for the release I'm running, ot
[04:20] <sethk> profoX`, true; that's why I said before that a live cd is not the way to do installs
[04:20] <sethk> can't type today
[04:21] <_marshall> hows everyone doing?
[04:21] <james__> the reason i am asking is that i tried ALL kinds of stuff to get my broadcom wireless card to work... and seemingly nothing worked... and then finally, for like the third time, i installed the windows driver in ndiswrapper and it started working. now the wireless card works, but every time i boot up, i have to enter 'rmmod ndiswrapper' for the card to function
[04:21] <damo22> ok i have a .dsc file and a patched source tree how do i create a .deb
[04:21] <profoX`> sethk: it's nice, it only takes many ram and unnecessary boot-up time... but they could add options to the live installer if they wanted.. but i suppose they think people who use the live installer are only people who want to use the system as a desktop, thats why it's not so advanced
[04:21] <stiv2k> is there any reason why my wifi card seems to be considerably weaker in linux than in windows? this is an atheros card (i believe im using madwifi drivers from the livecd)...im far from the AP, it connects in windows, but wont hold a connection in linux???
[04:22] <wheels3572> !traceroute > wheels3572
[04:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about traceroute  - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:22] <wheels3572> can anyone tell me how to do a traceroute via cli ?
[04:22] <james__> it does not make sense that it started working after i installed the windows driver in ndiswrapper, but then i have to disable ndiswrapper for it to function......
[04:22] <dmsantam> wheels3572, man traceroute
[04:22] <damo22> stiv2k: sudo iwconfig ath0 txpow 99
[04:22] <sethk> profoX`, yes, I think you are correct about what they are thinking
[04:22] <dmsantam> wheels3572, if its not there, apt-get install traceroute
[04:22] <stiv2k> damo22: thats it?
[04:22] <LinuxN00b> any other ideas bout my problem?
[04:23] <damo22> i believe so
[04:23] <stiv2k> damo22: hah, that's rather simple...someone else told me to try iwpriv but i couldn't make any sense out of it when i ran it
[04:23] <damo22> :)
[04:23] <sethk> LinuxN00b, I don't see you asking about a problem.
[04:23] <LinuxN00b>  I have to use the alternate, not live-CD install
[04:23] <LinuxN00b> oops wait
[04:23] <jontec_> I'm having a problem. I am bridging two ethernet connection with bridge-utils, but once I bridge them, this computer can't connect to the internet, all the others can.
[04:23] <stiv2k> damo22: ok ill try it and let ya know if it works, brb rebooting
[04:23] <sethk> LinuxN00b, that's not a problem
[04:23] <wheels3572> dmsantam: ty :)
[04:24] <damo22> stiv2k, no need to reboot
[04:24] <damo22> its linux dude
[04:24] <sethk> jontec, the machine acting as a bridge can't reach the 'net, you mean?
[04:24] <LinuxN00b>  Everytime i run the kubuntu/ubuntu install it crashes while setting up the file system
[04:24] <sethk> LinuxN00b, what message do you see, if any?
[04:25] <zazeem> help, need help getting into my other hard drive that has all my windows stuff and videos on it.
[04:25] <damo22> stiv2k actually if u reboot, you'll lose the maxpower custom setting
[04:25] <LinuxN00b> it just locks up at a random percent
[04:25] <_marshall> LinuxN00b: did you run a cd verification thing before trying to install?
[04:25] <jontec_> yes
[04:25] <LinuxN00b> and i have to use the alternate install
[04:25] <LinuxN00b> yeah
[04:25] <sethk> LinuxN00b, possibly you need to disable IDE DMA for the install
[04:25] <sethk> LinuxN00b, what's wrong with using the alternate?
[04:26] <jbrimble> I'm having problems connecting Ubuntu to my Networked Windows Printer (HP Photosmart)
[04:26] <Vilkacis> I would like to enable an HTML server on my Ubuntu box. What do I install in synaptic, where do I put the files and what ports do I need to open up and direct at the box?
[04:26] <LinuxN00b> same thing
[04:26] <profoX`> damo22: how will that help in keeping a connection up when you are far away from the AP?
[04:26] <Vilkacis> Just a simple HTML server.
[04:26] <paul_> hello all
[04:26] <jontec_> sethk: yes
[04:26] <grte> Hey, does anybody have any idea how I can get the volume control in ncmpc to actually affect the volume?
[04:26] <damo22> how do i create a .deb file from an official .orig.tar.gz + .diff.gz + .dsc
[04:26] <LinuxN00b> i cant run any Live CDs under like...75 Megs for some reason
[04:26] <grte> I'm guessing it's trying to use the wrong soundcard, but I don't know how to change that.
[04:26] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, you should parition the drive first with the gparted in ubuntu before starting the install
[04:26] <sethk> jontec, I would check to make sure your default route is still pointing at your internet gateway
[04:26] <Amaranth> damo22: pbuilder is good for that
[04:26] <Amaranth> damo22: although i doubt you want something like that for just one package
[04:26] <phargle> could someone tell me what package iftop is in?  I try apt-get install iftop and it says it cant find it
[04:26] <Qwell> Sorry canadians, I'm borrowing your archive server for a while :p
[04:27] <Mattchewie> hha
[04:27] <Mattchewie> hahah
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, you will also need to reboot then start the install ... from my esperience
[04:27] <grte> phargle: If you're using the US repos, they're down right now.
[04:27] <LinuxN00b> wait, so what do i do?
[04:27] <jontec_> sethk: I don't know what it was before. I think I know how to get to it though... is is in Network Settings panel?
[04:27] <paul_> can anyone help me with a problem.. my display should be 1440 X 900 resolution , but every time I change to that display setting as root or not, it reverts back to my bad resolution setting...
[04:27] <damo22> grte: yes in mpd.conf you need to change the mixer device to PCM or Master or something
[04:27] <Vilkacis> HTML server, what package?
[04:27] <Qwell> crap...
[04:27] <grte> damo22: Thanks.
[04:27] <Amaranth> damo22: dpkg-source -x file.dsc
[04:27] <phargle> grte: ah that might be my problem, thanks
[04:27] <Qwell> The specified Ubuntu archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror.
[04:27] <grte> phargle: Also, if you ever need to find a package, try apt-cache search <search term>
[04:27] <Amaranth> damo22: then cd into the dir it creates and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc
[04:27] <paul_> can I save my settings for kde then reboot to have the display 1440 X 900 stick?
[04:27] <grte> It helps a tonne.
[04:27] <LinuxN00b> sooo what do i do?
[04:28] <profoX`> damo22: how will that help in keeping a connection up when you are far away from the AP? the txpower setting
[04:28] <Amaranth> damo22: you need to have the packages for dpkg-source, dpkg-buildpackage, and fakeroot installed for this to work
[04:28] <Qwell> That was when using ca.releases.ubuntu.com
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, scroll back to see what i said dude
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, you should parition the drive first with the gparted in ubuntu before starting the install
[04:28] <damo22> thanks amaranth
[04:28] <jbrimble> Where's the xstartup file?
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, you will also need to reboot then start the install ... from my esperience
[04:28] <LinuxN00b> i reboot around 50 times by now
[04:28] <Vilkacis> How do I make Ubuntu serve as a web server?
[04:29] <LinuxN00b> every time it just does the same thing
[04:29] <sethk> jontec, I do it on the command line.  I think the network-admin program is how to do it in the desktop
[04:29] <grte> damo22: I don't have an entry in the mpd.conf file for a mixer, do you know what line I should enter?
[04:29] <sethk> jontec, network-admin is run by the settings program, but you can also run it yourself (with sudo) from a command line
[04:29] <fnord123> Vilkacis: run a web server. apache and lighttp are popular ones
[04:30] <sethk> jontec, there is a pull down box on the first tab for setting the default destination interface
[04:30] <LinuxN00b> wait are you saying i should partition everything using a different program?
[04:30] <profoX`> damo22: how will that help in keeping a connection up when you are far away from the AP? the txpower setting
[04:30] <jontec_> sethk: okay, sorry I'm using kubuntu so maybe command line will be better
[04:31] <Vilkacis> fnord123: How do I initilize/configure it? What do I need to install? Do I need to open any ports, so my router knows where to look when someone requests a page?
[04:31] <james__> is it possible that the windows driver i installed in ndiswrapper is doing something, even after i run 'rmmod ndiswrapper'?
[04:31] <Fieldy> hi
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, the gparted is on Ubuntu cd ... run from the live disk, setup partitons, then reboot
[04:31] <jbrimble> where can I read about Printing from XP?
[04:31] <profoX`> james__: check dmesg
[04:31] <Qwell> okay, so...what information should I be putting in to the archive mirror selection?
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:31] <Qwell> I'm doing "Enter information manually", because choosing canada didn't work
[04:31] <shriphani> how do i  esize a primary partition ?
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> jbrimble, i assume you mean samba printing
[04:31] <jontec_> sethk: what's are the commands for the prompt?
[04:31] <sethk> james__, yes, it's possible.  rmmod will not remove a module if the kernel believes that something that depends on it is running
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> !samba > jbrimble
[04:31] <LinuxN00b> i cant run the Live CD though
[04:32] <sethk> jontec, route add default gateway ###.###.###.###   where obviously ###.###.###.### is the IP address of the gateway
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, why not? did you not get it running only to have the install fail?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> you said so
[04:32] <grte> Does anybody know the line that should be added to MPDs configuration file to change the mixer?
[04:32] <fnord123> Vilkacis: there are great instructions to be found using google. it's a bit more complicated than can be handled on a high traffic channel like this. but now you have some words to jam into google: "apache" and "ubuntu"
[04:32] <sethk> jontec, first, though,run route (no arguments) to see if there is a default route that needs to be deleted.
[04:32] <jontec_> should I do that while I have my bridge up?
[04:32] <sethk> jontec, a default route has a destination address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:32] <shriphani> linuxboy, put the cd in while dapper is running apt cdrom add the sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:32] <LinuxN00b> i have to use the alternate CD to install without running the live CD
[04:33] <Zenethian> Hello.  How do I generate locale data for en_US.ISO-8859-1?  It only generates UTF8.  :(
[04:33] <Vilkacis> fnord123: Indeed. I am already installing apache2 in Synaptic, as well as documentation for it. I'll just have to find where it puts those and figure it out from there. If it's more complicated then this channel I'll refer to the documentation. Thanks for the help. :)
[04:33] <sethk> jontec, yes, if you do it before, it will be wiped out again, assuming that this is what's going on (which is likely but not sure yet)
[04:33] <paul_> when I change my display setting to 1440 X 900  it wont stay the next time I reboot anyone help?
[04:33] <jontec_> okay, thanks.
[04:33] <jontec_> I'll put this in a note to keep it.
[04:33] <fnord123> #apache is also full of helpful people
[04:33] <james__> sethk: i see, it is all very confusing, lol. i tried so many different approaches to get this card working, that now i don't know which approach i attempted is actually causing it to function
[04:33] <zazeem> help, need help getting into my other hard drive that has all my windows stuff and videos on it.
[04:33] <Vilkacis> fnord123: Oooh, great idea.
[04:33] <sethk> james__, that, of course, I can't help you with  :)
[04:34] <zazeem> help, need help getting into my other hard drive that has all my windows stuff and videos on it. it is already in and i see it on my computer but i cant get into it
[04:34] <sethk> james__, not knowing what you did or more details
[04:34] <fnord123> iirc, it might be sudo /etc/apache2/init.d start or something along those lines
[04:34] <sethk> zazeem, you need to mount the windows partition (or partitions)
[04:34] <james__> sethk: that is fine, i just wanted the answer you gave me a bit ago
[04:34] <grte> Well, I don't know precisely.
[04:34] <james__> i have another ussue, however....   recently i was trying to watch a video stream and mplayer would not play it (sometimes i hate mplayer), and in trying to get that stream to work, i installed the xine firefox plugin... after that, the stream would play using xine, BUT ever since then, all of the video that i play on this computer is ridiculously bright, and nothing i have tried corrects that. any suggestions?
[04:35] <LinuxN00b> again, the live cd wont boot, so i need to use the alternate CD and not use the live cd
[04:35] <james__> issue*
[04:35] <profoX`> james__: you probably have acx and ndiswrapper loaded at the same time now, and unloading ndiswrapper causes acx to work, you can blacklist ndiswrapper so it doesnt start up anymore: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:35] <profoX`> james__: lsmod|grep acx
[04:35] <james__> profoX`: ok
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> LinuxN00b, download the gparted CD and boot it ... setup paritions then reboot and install your Ubuntu
[04:35] <profoX`> james__: to see if acx is running, also see "dmesg" that command.. it will tell you about ndiswrapper and acx
[04:36] <LinuxN00b> okay
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> look on distrowatch for the links
[04:36] <sethk> james__, on the brightness problem, I think I would try backing up your xorg.conf file and doing dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[04:36] <sethk> james__, note carefully the BACKING UP part, first.
[04:36] <zazeem> sethk: how do i do that?
[04:36] <profoX`> i'm off..bye
[04:37] <james__> lsmod|grep acx gives me nothing
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> !ntfs > zazeem
[04:38] <`DaGuy> anybody else having trouble connecting to yahoo IM?
[04:38] <james__> sethk: if i uninstall xine, will the brightness issue go away? or will that remain even if xine is gone?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> nope
[04:38] <sethk> zazeem, if the windows partitions were present when you installed linux, then /etc/fstab should contain entries for them.  If this is true, you can mount the with a simple command.  If not it is a bit more difficult but still not a problem.
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> working fine with gaim
[04:38] <james__> `DaGuy: yes, gaim will not connect to yahoo for me tonight
[04:38] <phargle> grte: i had to edit my sources.list and uncomment the universe lines the apt-get update
[04:38] <phargle> *then
[04:38] <profoX`> james__: strange, you did have an acx card right? anyway.. it works.. be happy.. :) i have to go now.. if you want to know the details of why it works, do some research in "dmesg" or ask someone who knows, i'll be back tomorrow...
[04:38] <`DaGuy> james - thanx ... me either?
[04:39] <sethk> james__, I really don't know.  If I had to guess I would guess that uninstalling xine won't fix it.  But try it; I'm not at all sure.
[04:39] <phargle> and now i can apt-get install iftop just swimingly
[04:39] <grte> phargle: Cool.  They may have come back and just needed to be updated.
[04:39] <james__> profoX`: thanks for the halp
[04:39] <james__> help*
[04:39] <profoX`> yw
[04:39] <profoX`> cya
[04:40] <damo22> how do i make previously forced unmet dependencies to disappear from the error messages
[04:40] <james__> ok, i will expose my newbishness... how do i backup xorg.conf?
[04:41] <`DaGuy> FYI - factory fresh new Ubuntu cd's France to Calif - 3.5 weeks
[04:41] <damo22> i cant apt-get install anything it wants me to run apt-get -f install
[04:41] <fnord123> whats the difference between the alternate and desktop isos on the download pages?
[04:41] <damo22> but i dont want to uninstall the forced packages because i know that they work
[04:42] <zazeem> sethk: i can see the other hd now but it still says that i cant get into it, unable to mount whe i double click the icon
[04:42] <jbrimble> When setting up my samba printer, what do I put in the username and password section if there's no username/password set on XP?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> jbrimble, you should never do that
[04:43] <damo22> how do i add forced packages to an exclusion list for unmet dependencies
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> unless you like punishment
[04:43] <jbrimble> what do you mean?
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:43] <jbrimble> My girlfriend needs this printer set up
[04:43] <zazeem> sethk: i can see the other hd now but it still says that i cant get into it, unable to mount when i double click the icon
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> security
[04:43] <jbrimble> it's only on the LAN, and its windows - so no big deal
[04:44] <sethk> zazeem, try mounting from the command line using sudo
[04:44] <james__> i am in the process of hacking jbrimble as we speak..... just kidding
[04:44] <fnord123> hehe going on irc proclaiming you have no login or password set
[04:44] <zazeem> sethk: whats the cmd to mount
[04:44] <sethk> zazeem, if you are mounting, say,  /dev/hdb1, then do:    sudu mount /dev/hdb1
[04:44] <zazeem> sethk: mount?
[04:44] <zazeem> sethk: ok
[04:44] <ringard> how do i list the groups a user belongs to from the command line?
[04:44] <sethk> zazeem, assuming /dev/hdb1 appears in /etc/fstab, which it should
[04:44] <Flav> I'm trying to "apt-build build-source php4
[04:44] <zazeem> sethk: yes hdd1 does
[04:44] <Flav> but it errors with E: Unable to find a source package for php4
[04:44] <sethk> ringard, grep  username  /etc/groups
[04:44] <deny> i need to uninstall mplayer, my system does not recognize that it is there and i don't know how to uninstall it, i tried from package but still there
[04:44] <sethk> zazeem, ok, then try it
[04:45] <jbrimble> That wasn't too helpful
[04:45] <jbrimble> this is a pretty simple task :(
[04:46] <davidX> some reason in gnome terminal my remote ssh sessions kind of lag like i'm typing faster then my connection.. except i'm on dsl and didn't have this problem 20 minutes ago on xubuntu before changing my sessions.. any suggestions?
[04:46] <fooman> can anyone help get my SB 5.1 to work?
[04:46] <fooman> in dapper
[04:46] <james__> jbrimble: you need to set a password for that xp machine
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> jbrimble, look on the samba site
[04:46] <ringard> sethk, now such file
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> or ask on #samba
[04:46] <fooman> i have Nforce 2 board with SB 5.1
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> i always use passwords and usernames
[04:47] <zazeem> sethk: i pmed u the error i got
[04:47] <davidX> its really strange i can't find anything on mailing lists or the forums regarding my issue
[04:47] <zazeem> for i in /dev/[hs] d[a-z] ; do sudo fdisk -l $i; done
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> without that anyone accessing your lan via wifi can take over the windows system
[04:47] <fooman> anyone ? SB 5.1 not wrking in dapper
[04:48] <jbrimble> Is nmbstatus on ubuntu?
[04:48] <sethk> zazeem, I don't see it
[04:49] <zazeem> sethk: see what?
[04:49] <zazeem> the error?
[04:49] <CokeNCode> ok, i've got a tv tuner card and a dvd burner that I want to install in this box  ... Is there anything I should know before I start this procedure? Will it work off the bat? Or will I have to do some configuring
[04:49] <CokeNCode> help needed guys
[04:49] <zazeem> sethl: ill resend
[04:49] <zazeem> sethk: ill resend
[04:49] <damo22> when u dpkg --ignore-depends how do i make the forced packages to be ignored by apt
[04:50] <Flav> I'm trying to "apt-build build-source php4" but it errors with E: Unable to find a source package for php4 even though I have the deb-src for hoary-security matching the deb line
[04:50] <zazeem> sethk: you get that pm?
[04:51] <damo22> ls
[04:51] <damo22> oops
[04:51] <LinuxN00b> gparted locked up when creating the filesystem
[04:51] <LinuxN00b> *partiton
[04:51] <CokeNCode> come on guys ... some help would be much appreciated
[04:51] <fivre> What's the best archive tool for Linux?
[04:52] <jbrimble> CokeNCode: Have you install win32codecs?
[04:52] <fivre> cause Xarchiver is no WinRar :(
[04:52] <Paladine> CokeNCode, plug them in, if they work, all good, if not, then ask for help
[04:52] <ChakRa> haha running UPP using wine its l33t
[04:53] <damo22> upp?
[04:53] <swim> how can I tell what I can remove according to deborphan?
[04:53] <jbrimble> So I'm assuming that the nmbstatus command isn't available in Ubuntu?
[04:53] <ChakRa> yeah mirc client
[04:53] <CokeNCode> Paladine, ok, well, i'll give it a shot ... hmmm ... as soon as this torrent is finished downloading
[04:53] <LinuxN00b> gparted froze while creatig the partitons...someone help!
[04:53] <ChakRa> www.upp.com
[04:53] <CokeNCode> does bittorrent support resumes
[04:53] <Paladine> CokeNCode, of course
[04:53] <fivre> ChakRa: runnning irssi is so much 1337ter :|
[04:53] <fivre> CokeNCode: yes
[04:53] <CokeNCode> ok, well, this has an hour left ... i'll just let it finish just in case ...
[04:54] <ChakRa> fiveiron, amen thats next on my list
[04:54] <zazeem> sethk: you here??
[04:54] <ChakRa> ~__~
[04:54] <sethk> LinuxN00b, try disabling dma for the drive
[04:54] <sethk> zazeem, I'm here, but I didn't receive anything
[04:54] <LinuxN00b> how do i do that
[04:54] <LinuxN00b> ?
[04:54] <zazeem> hmm
[04:54] <Paladine> CokeNCode, there is no "Just in case" bittorrent definitely resumes
[04:54] <damo22> running wmii with sic will be l33ter when i figure out my problems with dpkg
[04:54] <jjohn> hi all
[04:54] <zazeem> sethk:
[04:54] <zazeem> sethk:zazeem@zazilla:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdd1
 mount: special device /dev/hdd1 does not exist
[04:54] <ChakRa> i just inalled dreamweaver using cross office runs so smooth, makes me wana cry ~__~
[04:54] <zazeem> sethk: thats eror
[04:54] <h6w> Hello, how do I make all my local users be samba users?
[04:54] <Flav> How can i change the status of a bug on launchpad?
[04:55] <sethk> LinuxN00b, the help shows it for breezy
[04:55] <LinuxN00b> okay
[04:55] <sethk> LinuxN00b, the help at the boot prompt
[04:55] <LinuxN00b> okay brb
[04:55] <jjohn> can anyone tell me how to disable this script:       echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:55] <sethk> zazeem, it is saying that hdd1 does not exist.  possibly hdd does not exist.  hdd would be the secondary slave, so it would be odd for it to exist although certainly not impossible
[04:56] <Qwell> okay, I simply can't get a netbooted image to pick an archive mirror
[04:56] <Riyonuk> I cant get dial-up to work still, I read the guide, but it keps saying Fatal: ltmodem/ltserial not found
[04:56] <Qwell> I tell it archive.ubuntu.com, then /ubuntu/dists/dapper/
[04:56] <zazeem> sethk: well what should it be then? that makes no sense since linux is on hdc
[04:57] <Qwell> tells me there is no (or no valid) Release file
[04:57] <zazeem> sethk: well what should it be then? my other hard drive should be slave, i just use it to store files when i was on wonxp
[04:57] <CokeNCode> brb .... wish me luck
[04:57] <zazeem> sethk: in computer it shows an icon called hdd1
[04:58] <crxyem> so I'm trying to set up a cron job to mail me when it's finished , but out of the box , the mail command in ubuntu is not present, what is one to do
[04:58] <Riyonuk> anyone?
[04:59] <eternalswd> how can I change the mixer icon?
[04:59] <Qwell> That file definitely exists on that mirror, in that location...
[04:59] <swim> how can I tell what I can remove according to deborphan?
[04:59] <jjohn> anyone know???
[04:59] <trippy> oh no! profoX" was helping me.. is he going to be back soon?
[04:59] <maparus> does gnome have something like kshutdown?
[04:59] <LinuxN00b> okay, disable dma is nowhere to be seen in the help thing in breezy
[04:59] <sethk> zazeem, hdc and hdd are perfectly possible
[05:00] <zazeem> sethk: how do i mount hdd then?
[05:00] <sethk> LinuxN00b, yes it is.  You have to look for special boot parameters, or some such wording
[05:00] <zazeem> sethk: is it just more complicated?
[05:00] <sethk> zazeem, if there isn't an hdd, you can't.
[05:00] <zazeem> sethk: there is a hdd
[05:00] <zazeem> sethk: i am looking at the icon
[05:00] <jontec_> sethk: I see you're busy, but I posted my information in the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18666
[05:00] <sethk> zazeem, all the icon proves is that at one point the kernel thought that there was an hdd
[05:01] <trippy> how do i repair/recover root partition? hda1?
[05:01] <TheJackofClubs> um
[05:01] <TheJackofClubs> wow
[05:01] <zazeem> sethk: how do i find out what it is then? what hd name so i can mount?
[05:01] <sethk> zazeem, is it possible that at one point is was connected as hdd but now it is connected differently?
[05:01] <edu> hi
[05:01] <waikitz> hey guys,does anyone know which software can convert video to xvid format???
[05:01] <sethk> zazeem, you can look in /system/bus/ide
[05:01] <zazeem> sethk: unlikely i havnt touched anything
[05:01] <sethk> zazeem, ok
[05:01] <edu> I'm having a little, but annoying, problem with konqueror... it's a perm issue
[05:01] <sethk> zazeem, try this:    sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[05:02] <edu> could you help me?
[05:02] <cpk2> !teamspeak
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about teamspeak - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:02] <cpk2> !ventrillo
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about ventrillo - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:02] <_Spire_> edu: ok
[05:02] <sethk> zazeem, that will print the hdd partition information, assuming that the machine thinks that hdd exists.
[05:02] <LinuxN00b> sorry, but ive scanned the help thing up and down, no dma
[05:02] <three> vive will convert to xvid
[05:02] <TheJackofClubs> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[05:02] <TheJackofClubs> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/Release.gpg
[05:02] <TheJackofClubs> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/Release.gpg
[05:02] <waikitz> !xvid
[05:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <zazeem> sethk: where can i paste this
[05:02] <zazeem> sethk: so you can see/>
[05:02] <ku> !easyubuntu
[05:02] <_Spire_> TheJackofClubs: the servers are down
[05:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:02] <TheJackofClubs> how come my repositorys are timing out when trying to update?
[05:02] <TheJackofClubs> oh
[05:02] <sethk> LinuxN00b, unfortunately I can't reboot to help you find it.  there is an option, something like hda=nodma
[05:02] <TheJackofClubs> thanks
[05:03] <jjohn> looking for help to cancel this script <  echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:03] <jjohn> >
[05:03] <LinuxN00b> okay
[05:03] <_Spire_> TheJackofClubs: try the uk or ca repositories
[05:03] <sethk> LinuxN00b, if you read all the help screens you will find it.
[05:03] <TheJackofClubs> are the locales different?
[05:03] <sethk> jjohn, what do you mean by "cancel" it?
[05:03] <sethk> zazeem, use the paste bot in the channel topic
[05:03] <zazeem> sethk: k
[05:03] <edu> _Spire_: ok, it's simple... only the root can modify konqueror preferences, and the changes he makes are not available for the other users...
[05:03] <jjohn> Sethk I wrote it and now want to do something with BCM$#xx
[05:04] <sethk> jontec, I see a default route to <IP_ADDRESS>.  Is that the correct gateway?
[05:04] <three> does anyone know much about gdesklets
[05:04] <sethk> jjohn, if it is in a terminal, control-c it.  If not, you'll have to use the kill command
[05:04] <jontec> sethk: I think that was what was in my settings panel when I looked
[05:04] <_Spire_> edu: I'm not sure I can answer that question :( - 1. I'm not on KDE right now 2. I'm not a KDE/Konqui export
[05:04] <_Spire_> *expert
[05:05] <jontec> sethk: it's a windows native network that I'm trying to get to work
[05:05] <edu> _Spire_: ok, thanks
[05:05] <jjohn> Sethk is there a link to explain?
[05:05] <edu> I'm having a little, but annoying, problem with konqueror... it's a perm issue
[05:05] <`DaGuy> i think CA servers may be down also
[05:05] <sethk> jontec, there is no way for me to know whether <IP_ADDRESS> is your gateway address.  It's a common address, and I know of a couple of wireless access points that default to that address.
[05:06] <sethk> jjohn, there probably is but I don't know one off the top of my head.
[05:06] <waikitz> !kino
[05:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about kino - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:06] <sethk> jjohn, you can do:   ps auxw | grep tee
[05:06] <jontec> sethk: okay, can you see anything that I may have done wrong? when I go to setup my bridge what should I configure with route, and what shouldn't I mess with?
[05:06] <sethk> jjohn, from that you take the process ID of tee, and then you use kill to kill it   (kill ####    #### being the process ID)
[05:07] <zazeem> sethk: heres the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18667
[05:07] <jjohn> Sethk thank you
[05:07] <sethk> jontec, after the bridge config, try:   route add default gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:07] <zazeem> sethk: ill be back in 5 minutes thnx for help, will continue then i hope
[05:07] <jjohn> I will try and see what turns blue
[05:07] <sethk> zazeem, that is a corrupted partition table.
[05:08] <zazeem> sethk: what des that mean
[05:08] <sethk> zazeem, are you sure the drives are connected correctly?
[05:08] <zazeem> sethk: how do i check
[05:08] <jontec> sethk: should I specify it for each interface?
[05:08] <sethk> zazeem, that means that it doesn't find a valid partition table where it expects to find one, in the first disk sector
[05:08] <jontec> sethk: or will it set it for both or does it not matter?
[05:08] <sethk> jontec, no, only once
[05:08] <zazeem> sethk: check ide cables?
[05:09] <sethk> jontec, it will use the interface that can speak to 192.168.0.x
[05:09] <sethk> zazeem, yes, and jumpering.  make sure that if you have an EIDE cable (which you almost certainly do) both drives are jumpered for cable select
[05:09] <`DaGuy> sethk <IP_ADDRESS> is my wlan address <IP_ADDRESS> is gateway -- if that help any
[05:09] <sethk> zazeem, an EIDE cable has one blue, one black, and one grey connector.
[05:09] <zazeem> sethk: yes i have that
[05:10] <Ackeubu_> hey guys, I think enlightment has version .16 by default. can i use apt-get to install e.17?
[05:10] <jontec> sethk: okay, I will try that
[05:10] <zazeem> sethk: i took a jumper out of my extra hd to make my primary one boot a few day ago
[05:10] <wheels3572> How do i know if the printer I have will work with Ubuntu?
[05:10] <sethk> `DaGuy, if you want to reach the 'net via a wireless NIC, use <IP_ADDRESS>.  If it is cabled, use <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:10] <goatmale> wheels, test it
[05:10] <Flav> anyone successfully used apt-build before and could point me as to why i can't build php4? :)
[05:10] <sethk> zazeem, that sounds suspicious.  Make sure both are jumpered as cable select.  I've seen exactly this behavior when jumpers are not correct.
[05:11] <sethk> zazeem, can't be sure this is your problem, but it may be, so fix it then we'll go from there.
[05:11] <zazeem> sethk: i dont really know how to jumper correctly but ill try
[05:11] <wheels3572> goatmale: ok but I have no idea where to start lol Newbie here lol
[05:11] <goatmale> there should be instructions on the harddrive
[05:11] <wheels3572> ok
[05:11] <goatmale> slave, master, and cable select
[05:11] <zazeem> sethk: i dont really know how to jumper correctly but ill try, ill be back soon to try
[05:11] <goatmale> not you wheels
[05:12] <wheels3572> goatmale: oh ok sorry lol
[05:12] <Ackeubu_> !enlightment
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about enlightment - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:12] <zazeem> ill try goat
[05:12] <goatmale> wheels just plug it in and see
[05:12] <zazeem> it doesnt say that though
[05:12] <Ackeubu_> !whisper
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about whisper - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:12] <wheels3572> oh ok
[05:12] <zazeem> on one
[05:12] <wheels3572> goatmale: I can do that :)
[05:12] <`DaGuy> sethk - I am wireless to gateway (<IP_ADDRESS>) to satellite modem (<IP_ADDRESS>) & working
[05:13] <sethk> `DaGuy, not sure what you mean, you typed <IP_ADDRESS> twice, is that what you intended?
[05:13] <`DaGuy> oops <IP_ADDRESS> to satellite & that is a cable
[05:13] <Ackeubu_> !quiery enlightenment
[05:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about quiery enlightenment - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:13] <bensr20det> can anyone help me with frostwire? I ran FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb and installed it it shows up on my applications menu but when i click it nothing happens
[05:13] <Ackeubu_> !quiery bot enlightenment
[05:13] <sethk> zazeem, you can most likely find the jumper specs on the manufacturer's web site, if it isn't printed on the drive
[05:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about quiery bot enlightenment - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:13] <Ackeubu_> ...
[05:15] <Milk> are there issues with the Repos currently?
[05:15] <AAA> jeezux, there are 3x the number of ppl in there since the last time I was here
[05:16] <Riyonuk> I cant get dial-up to work still, I read the guide, but it keps saying Fatal: ltmodem/ltserial not found
[05:16] <jontec_> sethk: eth0 is the only interface showing up in the route table. Also, I cannot connect to the internet.
[05:16] <bigfoot1> in terminal, how do i locate which subdirectory a file with name foo.jar is located?
[05:17] <nrdb> I have been looking on ebay I found several USB sound card devices can Linux work with these?I have been looking on ebay I found several USB sound card devices can Linux work with these?
[05:17] <Riyonuk> niether can I :)
[05:17] <Milk> hrm.. it deffinatly appears that the US mirror for the archive is down
[05:17] <AAA> locate foo.jar (if your locatedb is up to date)
[05:18] <AAA> bigfoot1  or, find / -name foo.jar
[05:18] <bigfoot1> AAA: how do i know if locatedb is updated? and how can i update? and are there other ways to do a search?
[05:18] <AAA> bigfoot1  sudo updatedb
[05:18] <bigfoot1> AAA: thanks
[05:18] <bensr20det> Hello, i am new to linux and ubuntu. how do I go about uninstalling a program?
[05:18] <dr_willis> bensr20det,  fire up synaptic and uncheck it.
[05:18] <sethk> jontec, I know you can't connect to the net, that's what we are trying to fix.
[05:18] <maddash> bensr20det: synaptic
[05:19] <sethk> the command I gave you does not reference an interface.
[05:19] <bensr20det> will it be in there if it is a file i downloaded?
[05:19] <Awesome-o2000> well now msn can't log in, along with yahoo. this is really pleasant.
[05:19] <Awesome-o2000> there we go
[05:19] <sethk> jontec, you can do this to see if it is reachable:    traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>   (or 2.1, or whichever you want to check)
[05:20] <showme> jdk
[05:20] <jontec> sethk: what do you mean by "it"?
[05:20] <showme> jks
[05:20] <`DaGuy> Awesome-o2000 ... there we go ??? My yahoo is still down as are update servers
[05:20] <maddash> can anyone tell me how  (or direct me to the appropriate channel) to replicate a DVD w/dvdrip? I've already ripped the *.vob files...not sure how to create an iso with them properly (as opposed to blindly mkisofs-ing)...
[05:21] <cpk2> you guys know if there are any voip servers equivelent to teamspeak or ventrilo on apt-get?
[05:21] <scipio_africanus> yahoo has been down for about 8 hours now. for everyone :)
[05:21] <Riyo> gah stupid dial-up
[05:21] <showme> hey man~~
[05:21] <`DaGuy> re yahoo .. thx
[05:21] <sethk> jontec, I don't see the word "it" in the last three lines I sent to you.
[05:21] <goatmale> cpk2 skype :X
[05:21] <Awesome-o2000> nope
[05:22] <Awesome-o2000> sigh
[05:22] <jontec> sethk: traceroute command is not found
[05:22] <cpk2> scipio_africanus: yahoo has been working for me, just loads very slow
[05:22] <AAA> jontec  apt-get install mtr && mtr <ip address>
[05:22] <CokeNCode> ok, i plugged in the tvcard ... but no dice
[05:22] <Shak-> im trying to compile mplayer, but it says "X11 support required for GUI compilation" anyone know what package that is?
[05:22] <CokeNCode> i installed tvtime
[05:22] <CokeNCode> it won't let me change channels are anything
[05:22] <ardchoille> How do I run Firefox without the flash plugin? There are some sites where the flash is just annoying and running ff without flash is better.
[05:22] <scipio_africanus> cpk2: oh really? with gaim?
[05:22] <CokeNCode> any suggestions ?
[05:23] <goatmale> shak us syanptic
[05:23] <cpk2> Shak-: you know you can apt-get it?
[05:23] <AAA> Shak-  you need the x-org-dev or whatever it is called, the dev files for xorg
[05:23] <ringard> how do i add a printer in ubuntu from the commandline?
[05:23] <goatmale> use**
[05:23] <jontec> sethk: okay, and I meant in your post "you can do this to see if it is reachable", did you mean eth2 or something else?
[05:23] <Shak-> cpk2: apt-get mplayer? theres only a kmplayer
[05:23] <ardchoille> !info mplayer
[05:23] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[05:23] <Shak-> apt-get mplayer? :s
[05:23] <ardchoille> Shak-: mplayer is in multiverse
[05:23] <sethk> jontec, I meant the gateway
[05:23] <AAA> Shak-  do you have universe in your sources.list?
[05:23] <goatmale> shak why don't you use syantic?
[05:24] <Shak-> i've got multiverse enabled, I didnt see the package
[05:24] <sethk> jontec, I see traceroute in iputils-tracepath and...
[05:24] <danf_1979> Hi
[05:24] <CokeNCode> ok, brb ... ponder that question ... i gotta reinstall this dvd burner ... somehow it was set as 'master'
[05:24] <Vilkacis> Very simple: Copy a full directory path to a new directory, including all sub-directories.
[05:24] <AAA> sethk  mtr is so much better than traceroute
[05:24] <sethk> jontec, I see traceroute in a package called traceroute
[05:24] <goatmale> hey shak have you heard of automatix?
[05:24] <goatmale> !automatix
[05:24] <Shak-> wait, which line do I have to uncomment to enable multiverse?
[05:24] <AAA> mtr == my traceroute
[05:24] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:24] <Shak-> goatmale: nope
[05:24] <jontec> sethk: okay, one second and I'll see if it's installed
[05:25] <andrew> Hey does anyone know how to get the package back up.
[05:25] <goatmale> ! automatix >shak-
[05:25] <sethk> AAA, this is simple so I think either will work here.  for more complicated situations I would not disagree
[05:25] <cpk2> Shak-: the one that has multiverse
[05:25] <goatmale> did I do that right?
[05:25] <danf_1979> I need some documentation about the possible letters you can find when searching packages with apt-get/aptitude. For example, in
[05:25] <danf_1979> p   python-gobject-dev                                             - GObject bindings: devel files
[05:25] <danf_1979> i   python2.4-gobject                                              - Python bindings for the GObject
[05:25] <cpk2> !easysource
[05:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:25] <cpk2> Shak-: you can use that link to get a repo list
[05:25] <elmago55> hi
[05:25] <danf_1979> Is there any place where I can find the meanings of those letters?
[05:25] <Shak-> goatmale: ok, but i'd rather use apt-get, if I can find the package that is
[05:25] <danf_1979> I need a comprehensive list
[05:25] <LinuxN00b> screw computers
[05:26] <goatmale> haha shak why the hard way?
[05:26] <Shak-> goatmale: apt-get isnt hard?
[05:26] <sethk> danf_1979, man aptitude
[05:26] <Riyo> so how do I get my dial-up connection to work? I keep getting FATAL: ltmodem not found
[05:26] <goatmale> I think gui is easier..
[05:26] <Shak-> all the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list are uncommented :/
[05:27] <fivre> Riyo: is your modem inside your computer?
[05:27] <jontec> sethk: okay, I have it. both the mtr and traceroute packages
[05:27] <eternalswd> check out http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ for mplayer debs
[05:27] <Qwell> weird...if I used dhcp, it couldn't hit a mirror.  but as soon as I switched to manual config, it went right through
[05:27] <cpk2> goatmale: use synaptic then if you want a gui...
[05:27] <fivre> Riyo: if it is, do you have drivers for it?
[05:27] <cpk2> Shak-: do you see multiverse in any of the lines?
[05:27] <Riyo> yes
[05:27] <sethk> jontec, ok, try it.   traceroute <gateway-ip-address>
[05:27] <andrew> Is the pakage manager going to up soon?
[05:27] <Riyo> umm for windows
[05:27] <Shak-> cpk2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:27] <Riyo> Im new to linx
[05:27] <danf_1979> thanks, I found it sethk
[05:28] <Riyo> *linux
[05:28] <jontec> sethk: okay, I got it... it gives me information...
[05:28] <elmago55> there something like a bug in ppc
[05:28] <crxyem> anyone wanna help ,, what doesn't the command #mail -s   work ??
[05:28] <jontec> sethk: 1  100208ts.mshome.net (<IP_ADDRESS>)  0.410 ms  0.283 ms  0.224 ms
[05:28] <fivre> Riyo: your modem doesn't natively support linux
[05:28] <`DaGuy> sethk ..  jontec  - for my edification, what is the wireless adapter you are working with
[05:28] <cpk2> Shak-: thats backports
[05:28] <cpk2> Shak-: you probably dont want backports on
[05:28] <Riyo> :(
[05:28] <bensr20det> what is the best way to install java?
[05:28] <goatmale> use ndiswrapper and ndisgtk
[05:28] <fivre> Riyo: you may want to search the forums for anything about "linmodem"
[05:29] <jontec> 'DaGuy: I'm using two wired adapters... eth0 and eth2
[05:29] <Shak-> cpk2: oh, does backports inhibit multiverse?
[05:29] <cpk2> bensr20det: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[05:29] <`DaGuy> thx
[05:29] <elmago55> IDLG.omg.org/CORBA/CMM_FAILURE:1.0
[05:29] <sethk> jontec,  ok, then if you have a default route to <IP_ADDRESS>, it should get to the net.  Try pinging something on the net by ip address.  You may have a name resolution issue rather than a routing issue.  If so, you'll be able to ping by ip but not by name.
[05:29] <fivre> Riyo: unfortunately, I don't know any more, I have an external modem now :|
[05:29] <elmago55> whats means?
[05:29] <cpk2> Shak-: backports is a different repo than the main one
[05:29] <bensr20det> cpk2: thanks
[05:29] <cpk2> Shak-: i reccomend you go to the easy source link
[05:29] <cpk2> !easysource
[05:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:29] <elmago55>  IDLG.omg.org/CORBA/CMM_FAILURE:1.0   whats means?
[05:29] <Riyo> external modem?
[05:29] <Shak-> cpk2: k
[05:29] <fivre> cpk2: isn't jre better to install than just bin?
[05:29] <Riyo> well mines kinda external
[05:29] <jontec> sethk: is the command for pin on linux just     ping <ip address>?
[05:30] <sethk> jontec, for example try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:30] <cpk2> fivre: it should install jre at the same time
[05:30] <Riyo> the part where you put the line is outside
[05:30] <Riyo> but most is inside
[05:30] <sethk> jontec, right   ping <ip-address>    there are options but you won't need them here
[05:30] <andrew> When will the package manager be back?
[05:30] <elmago55> can you tell me the answer
[05:30] <elmago55>  IDLG.omg.org/CORBA/CMM_FAILURE:1.0 whats means=
[05:30] <sethk> jontec   <IP_ADDRESS>  is one of the yahoo.com IPs.
[05:30] <goatmale> try google elmago
[05:30] <jontec> sethk: I did this but it wasn't while the bridge was running...
[05:30] <elmago55> i tried
[05:30] <sethk> jontec, sorry, that IP isn't pingable
[05:31] <elmago55> but...
[05:31] <sethk> jontec, use this one:   <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:31] <sethk> jontec, I checked, and it is pingable.
[05:31] <fivre> Riyo: some modems are external/connected via serial ports. They don't need drivers.
[05:31] <Riyo> umm how would I go about installing a driver for linux?
[05:31] <sethk> jontec, start the bridge, then add the default route, and see if you can reach the 'net.
[05:31] <andrew> Can someonw please tell me when the packagemanager will be back?
[05:31] <elmago55> alguien habla espaol?
[05:31] <IcemanV9> is there a way to speed up the win32 version of firefox [runs with wine]  with a website runs in full of flash stuff?!?
[05:31] <cpk2> andrew: use a mirror
[05:32] <cpk2> !spanish
[05:32] <Riyo> hmm I want one, lol
[05:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:32] <andrew> What mirror
[05:32] <jontec> sethk: okay. one sec... it will most likely kill Konversation or at least disconnect me...
[05:32] <Qwell> !sparc
[05:32] <fivre> Riyo: search for "linmodem" on Google, you might be able to find a compatible linux driver
[05:32] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[05:32] <Qwell> :D
[05:32] <Riyo> so its like a usb? so its supported by everything
[05:32] <cpk2> andrew: open your sources.list file and delete us. from any of the entries
[05:32] <`DaGuy> andrew ... for myself I don't know .. it has been troublesome all day long
[05:32] <Qwell> That wiki should be updated, heh
[05:33] <fivre> Riyo: it's rather complex... Internal modems generally utilize the CPU for some tasks, external ones have their own dedicated CPU.
[05:34] <TheJackofClubs> good bye and thanks for all the fish
[05:34] <fivre> Riyo: they're more costly though, but you can find cheap externals for around $20 if you can't find anything at http://www.linmodems.org
[05:35] <CokeNCode> ok, the dvd burner is working .. but the tv card is giving me hell
[05:35] <Qwell> If I see 2 disks, I need to do software raid, right?
[05:35] <CokeNCode> can anyone run me thru the steps involved in installing a tv card
[05:35] <Riyo> alright im looking for a driver there
[05:35] <Shak-> cpk2: thanks, I see mplayer now :)
[05:36] <Riyo> I hope its there :p
[05:36] <cpk2> Shak-: no problem, you should also probably comment out the backports entries, you shouldnt be needing those
[05:36] <Shak-> yep I did
[05:37] <cara> hi
[05:37] <cara> how is everyone?
[05:38] <scipio_africanus> hi
[05:38] <cara> heyy
[05:38] <som1> is there a list of supported hardware? the only list i found is very small..
[05:38] <cara> lol how old is everyone in here?
[05:39] <Riyo> im 15
[05:39] <cara> cool
[05:39] <cara> were ya from?
[05:39] <scipio_africanus> som1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:39] <phargle> <3 synergy
[05:39] <Riyo> :p
[05:39] <Riyo> uhh why?
[05:39] <phargle> the app
[05:39] <cara> lol i donno i was just wondering
[05:39] <cara> lol
[05:40] <fivre> supported hardware: any graphics card made before year 2000 :|
[05:40] <KyleHunt> This is kind of a stupid question, but is there any way to make a terminal pop up with a message in it on someone on my local network's computer?
[05:40] <goatmale> !offtopic
[05:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:40] <Riyo> texas
[05:40] <KyleHunt> oh, mine was offtopic too
[05:40] <goatmale> not really kyle
[05:40] <KyleHunt> ah, ok
[05:40] <goatmale> i just can't help you.
[05:41] <cara> what is this thing used for?
[05:41] <KyleHunt> ok. well thanks anyway :D
[05:41] <cara> do you all work on computers?
[05:41] <fivre> it could probably be done with a bit of scripting...
[05:41] <zazeem> sethk: i checked it and it just doesnt work when thy are both on cable select
[05:41] <goatmale> what do you mean cara?
[05:42] <zazeem> sethk: my comp doesnt find any hds when i did that
[05:42] <cara> like what are you all talking about
[05:42] <cara> what is scripting?
[05:42] <goatmale> !Scripting
[05:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about Scripting - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:42] <Riyo> -_-
[05:42] <goatmale> !script
[05:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about script - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:42] <Riyo> cara
[05:42] <Riyo> this is a help channel
[05:42] <cara> yeah
[05:42] <wheels3572> Cara:  Scripting is programing
[05:42] <Riyo> for an operatin system
[05:42] <Riyo> like windows
[05:42] <Riyo> are you lost?
[05:42] <cara> o
[05:42] <cara> lol yeah
[05:42] <zazeem> goatmale: any idea how to compile? i need help compiling omthing
[05:43] <cara> i just got unbuntu
[05:43] <goatmale> compilng what?
[05:43] <wheels3572> cara: So your using Linux and not windows
[05:43] <cara> yeah
[05:43] <Qwell> Do I want /boot/ to be raided?
[05:43] <goatmale> cara, stay a while, you will learn a lot.
[05:43] <cara> well i have windown on my computer still
[05:43] <zazeem> compiling a program
[05:43] <dr_willis> Qwell,  i dont see what you would gain by that.
[05:43] <Qwell> ie; are there ill effects, such as...say...not booting?
[05:43] <cara> but i use linux more
[05:44] <goatmale> er...
[05:44] <dr_willis> Qwell,  proberly safer to not have it on a raid..
[05:44] <Qwell> ok
[05:44] <wheels3572> Cara:  Same here I have WinXPon but use Linux more lately
[05:44] <goatmale> !raid
[05:44] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:44] <Shorty`> Hey guys, I've got a weird issue were I'm using HA nfs and when I fail between the two NFS servers, one particular user keeps getting stale NFS handles, however root appears to be fine. does anyone have any ideas or somewhere they can point me too?
[05:44] <cara> cool
[05:44] <schmakk> i followed http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186200 <- that guide, but it didnt work. however, now some fonts in kde are extremely small... like everything in adept and other programs. help.
[05:44] <Riyo> pon?
[05:44] <Qwell> So, 2 disks, 1 smallish partition (100mb), and 1 partition with the rest on disk 1, and 1 partition on disk 2, then I go into the software RAID stuff?
[05:45] <Qwell> I've never done raid, nor ubuntu, heh
[05:45] <zazeem> can someone help me i keep getting this error when compiling a program, checking for X... no
[05:45] <zazeem> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
[05:45] <zazeem> configure: error: The path for the X11 files not found! Make sure that X11 is installed and devel
[05:45] <goatmale> do you know what raid is qwell?
[05:45] <Qwell> goatmale: yes, I know what raid is :p
[05:45] <goatmale> oh
[05:45] <goatmale> I don't :(
[05:45] <ku> Hey, I have a question: I've heard that getting full access to NTFS partitions under Linux is difficult. To what extent is this true?
[05:45] <Qwell> I wait a raid0
[05:46] <sethk> ku, reading is easy.  writing to ntfs is somewhat complicated
[05:46] <scipio_africanus> i think it's wise not to write on nfts under linux
[05:46] <wheels3572> !samba > wheels3572
[05:46] <ku> Yeah, I've already set it up to read
[05:46] <zazeem> sethk: can you help me with this compilation stuff?
[05:46] <Qwell> This is going to rock, insanely hard...  2x 73gb 10k rpm SAS disks
[05:46] <ku> K, thanks guys, that's all I needed to hear ^^
[05:46] <cara> ok well i am going to go.... nice talking to you all!
[05:46] <cara> good night <33
[05:46] <schmakk> ku, search ubuntuforums.org, i saw a guide there for writing to ntfs
[05:46] <goatmale> bye bye cara come back if you need  help
[05:47] <schmakk> in the howto section
[05:47] <AAA> writing to NTFS is very unstable, but possible
[05:47] <shriphani> ntfsprogs ?
[05:47] <cara> thanks
[05:47] <zazeem> can anyone help me ? :(
[05:47] <sethk> zazeem, I was away for a while, didn't see the question
[05:47] <ku> This is an unrelated question, but does anybody know if external hard drives need to be formatted for the O/S that it's going to be used for? I use Windows, Unix, and Mac at work and would like to know if I could use one external drive.
[05:47] <zazeem> o
[05:47] <shriphani> apt-cache agrees wimm
[05:47] <sethk> zazeem, what are you compiling?  what error are you getting?
[05:47] <ku> Yeah, "unstable" is enough to deter me from even trying to write to NTFS from linux ^^
[05:47] <goatmale> no ku I don't think so
[05:47] <zazeem> sethk: it was this, i need to compile a program
[05:48] <schmakk> how do i change something like a default font for programs in kde? i messed with compiz and it made some programs have extremely small font size
[05:48] <goatmale> ku: are you just storing files?
[05:48] <zazeem> sethk: im compiling etswitch game minimizer
[05:48] <AAA> ku  there is about the same rw for hpfs+ as ntfs, use fat32 if you really need rw for all os's
[05:48] <ku> yeah, mostly for video editing but some other stuff as well
[05:48] <ku> I hate FAT... =(
[05:48] <zazeem> sethk: heres what i got last few lines of attempting it:checking for X... no
[05:48] <zazeem> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
[05:48] <zazeem> configure: error: The path for the X11 files not found! Make sure that X11 is installed and devel
[05:48] <sethk> schmakk, system settings, desktop appearance (or similar words)
[05:48] <AAA> zazeem  you need the x11/xor devel files
[05:49] <sethk> zazeem, you need to install the X windows related development packages
[05:49] <ku> I'm probably going to have to format my external to FAT32 if external hard drives need to be formatted per O/S.
[05:49] <zazeem> where are they? in syn?
[05:49] <schmakk> sethk, been there... the kde desktop itself is fine, like the panel and icons, but inside programs its still weird
[05:49] <sethk> zazeem, the install by default only installs the run time stuff, not the devels.
[05:49] <goatmale> ku I don't think they do, storage is storage.
[05:49] <ku> cool.. thanks goatmale^^
[05:49] <zazeem> so what do i look for in synaptic?
[05:49] <AAA> ku  its not that they need to be formatted for the os, it is the rw compatability across os's that is the bear
[05:49] <zazeem> sethk: so what do i look for in synaptic?
[05:50] <sethk> schmakk, are you sure you checked everything in appearance?  there is a pull down box there for a bunch of different things, and each of those entries in the pull down has it's own font settings.
[05:50] <sethk> zazeem, try     x   devel
[05:50] <zazeem> k
[05:50] <AAA> zazeem  x-org*devel
[05:50] <zazeem> k
[05:50] <ku> Yeah, I need to be able to write on Windows/Unix-Linux/Mac.
[05:50] <zazeem> o i got it now thnx <3 u guys
[05:51] <ku> on a single external drive... I'm going to be taking it back and forth from work.
[05:51] <pawan> adsl broadband
[05:51] <pawan> on ubuntu
[05:51] <AAA> ku, I wrestled with that a while back, fat32 was the best compromise
[05:51] <pawan> how to recover lost partition in ubuntu
[05:51] <goatmale> opps I was wrong I guess
[05:51] <ku> K thanks AAA, sigh... I thought I'd never need to use FAT again after Windows 98 lol
[05:52] <zazeem> is there any way to make my button bars into 1 bar? so i dont have 2 bars across my screen in ubuntu?
[05:52] <zcat[1] > ku: you have a thumbdrive, mp3 player, or camera?
[05:52] <pawan> in windows xp or partition magic it is saying
[05:52] <AAA> ku, ntfs rw is just too unpredictable (in any os haha)
[05:52] <pawan> bad partition
[05:52] <ku> I have a thumbdrive and an mp3 player (broken, waiting for RMA)
[05:52] <ku> AAA: lol, perhaps you're right
[05:52] <whiteguysamurai> ok folks, i have an issue
[05:52] <wheels3572> Got a really dumb question folks I have just tested out something what is the actual different between hitting print and hitting <ALT>print?
[05:52] <zcat[1] > broken huh.. perhaps you shouldn't have tried to format it ntfs :)
[05:52] <cpk2> anyone know of any alternatives to voip programs like teamspeak and ventrilo
[05:53] <CrashProne> I have Ubuntu on my main drive, and Windows on a recently inserted slave.. can someone tell me how to get GRUB setup to load Windows?
[05:53] <cpk2> that i could install via apt
[05:53] <whiteguysamurai> alright, i am having problems installing dapper
[05:53] <scipio_africanus> !grub
[05:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:53] <schmakk> sethk, pulldown box with things that have font settings? where? the only font settings i can find is the ones in the font section
[05:53] <CokeNCode> ok, can someone tell me how to use modprobe to install my tvcard ?
[05:53] <CokeNCode> i'm really suffering here guys, this is killing me
[05:53] <CokeNCode> i'm about to try a reinstall
[05:53] <whiteguysamurai> it stalls on network settings
[05:53] <`DaGuy> zazeem - i haven't done it but if you rt click in a blank spot there is a delete feature
[05:53] <AAA> CokeNCode  what kind of tvcard? did you install the drivers?
[05:54] <pawan> accesing internet through ubuntu
[05:54] <CokeNCode> AAA, drivers ... a phillips tv card ... pci
[05:54] <whiteguysamurai> then does nothing, and returns to verbose
[05:54] <AussieDrifter> Any one on Channel that could have a PM with me to trouble shoot EKIGA voice / sound issues ?
[05:54] <zazeem> ya but then i minimize programs they dont show anywhere
[05:54] <ku> Ooh, another question: Is there any danger in getting full access to EXT3 paritions from Windows?
[05:54] <Qwell> AussieDrifter: nat issue...sip?
[05:54] <CokeNCode> CokeNCode, i didn't need to install any drivers when i was running ubuntu 5.10
[05:54] <Qwell> nat/firewall issue, that is
[05:54] <AAA> CokeNCode  did you download and build drivers for it?
[05:54] <CrashProne> Arright, I'll look through that scipio.
[05:54] <scipio_africanus> ku i don't think windwos can see those partitions
[05:54] <CokeNCode> AAA, no ... how do i do that ?
[05:54] <intelligi> How do I check my ip again?
[05:54] <whiteguysamurai> if anyone else has heard of this problem, please lend me a hand.
[05:55] <ku> scipio_africanus: I googled it and apparently, there's a program for it. I would just like to know if it's safe to use it
[05:55] <CokeNCode> I never had to do that before
[05:55] <pawan> how to use sudo command
[05:55] <scipio_africanus> ku: oh i don't know :)
[05:55] <ku> http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/blogger/2005/11/how-do-i-read-ext2-or-ext3-filesystems.php =P
[05:55] <_marshall> intelligi: in the terminal: ifconfig
[05:55] <zazeem> AAA: i configured the thing now how do i make it?
[05:55] <AAA> CokeNCode  first you need to know what kind of card you have (lspci -vv) then you need to find what drivers work for it (google) then you need to follow the howto (tons available on the Inet)
[05:55] <CokeNCode> AAA, what about using modprobe ... to detect it ... how do i do that ... what can i do to make my system search for this device ...
[05:55] <aqau_inter_fly> hello everyone i created a directory to mount my Windows Partition, and i edited my fstab file and finished with mount -a, but when i try to go into the directory, i don't have permission, how do i change this
[05:55] <`DaGuy> did jontec get his internet connection going?
[05:56] <cmt> anyone here know how to use hardware acceleration on my graphics card (ATI) and still be able to access the frame buffer?  when i do this, the FB is garbled
[05:56] <pawan> no
[05:56] <AussieDrifter> Qwell not sure,
[05:56] <AAA> modprobe doesn'nt connect anything, it simply inserts a module into the kernl
[05:56] <CokeNCode> AAA, tons avaialbe ... i've been searching for months ... and i can't find a single decent howto on hwo to install a tvcard on ubuntu
[05:56] <AussieDrifter> I've shutdown my firewall and place the PC on the DMZ
[05:56] <`DaGuy> !permissions
[05:56] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:56] <AussieDrifter> still not joy with the echo service of SIP
[05:56] <whiteguysamurai> is there a way to skip steps while loading the live cd?
[05:57] <AAA> CokeNCode  sheesh, what kind of card is it? lspci -vv will show you
[05:57] <Riyo> I cant seem to navigate linmodem
[05:57] <pawan> can live cd be used to access internet
[05:57] <Riyo> where do I go?
[05:57] <AAA> pawan  if there is a driver for your Inet hardware sure
[05:57] <goatmale> yes pawan if your
[05:57] <whiteguysamurai> well, seeing as i can not be helped, i'll help somneone else.
[05:57] <goatmale> damn you AAA
[05:57] <AAA> haa
[05:57] <AAA> haha
[05:58] <goatmale> whitegytsamurai why do you want to skip steps?
[05:58] <aqau_inter_fly> hello everyone i created a directory to mount my Windows Partition, and i edited my fstab file and finished with mount -a, but when i try to go into the directory, i don't have permission, how do i change this
[05:58] <yelek> Anone know (unfortunatley) about dos a littl? I have a friend with an old DELL w/ windohs 95 on it and it wont boot ubuntu from cd...any ideas?
[05:58] <pawan> what are the setting
[05:58] <cmt> yelek:  did you check the bios boot settings?
[05:58] <goatmale> yelek his bios probably can't boot from CD
[05:58] <schmakk> yelek, check in the bios that its set to boot from cd
[05:58] <dr_willis> yelek,  check the bios - make sure its set to boot off the cd. Dos has nothing to do with it.
[05:58] <whiteguysamurai> because both the hardware detection and the network setup are forcing my machine to freeze while loading the os
[05:58] <goatmale> lmao
[05:59] <cmt> yelek:  often the bios has to be told to boot formt he cd
[05:59] <cmt> lol
[05:59] <pawan> how to access the broadband
[05:59] <schmakk> you got that yelek?
[05:59] <AAA> aqau_inter_fly  you need to chmod that directory appropriate to your LAN
[05:59] <Riyo> ?
[05:59] <zazeem> AAA: i configured the thing now how do i make it?
[05:59] <`DaGuy> yelek .. if i remember right you need to tell the old machine there is a cd drive there
[05:59] <CokeNCode> AAA,  it's a phillips saa7130
[05:59] <AAA> aqau_inter_fly  chmod a+rw /dir will work and leave you wide open
[05:59] <yelek> yeh i entered bios and it says will boot from cd auto but it does not, its probably some weird shizza tho
[05:59] <AAA> zazeem  make
[05:59] <wheels3572> +
[05:59] <aqau_inter_fly> AAA: ok thanks, trying now
[06:00] <zazeem> AAA: i did that it doesnt work
[06:00] <whiteguysamurai> as to say, i can get past the hardware detection, but the automatic network detection forces verbose and becomes upresponsive
[06:00] <goatmale> his bios probably is to old to boot from CD
[06:00] <cmt> anyone here know how to use hardware acceleration on my graphics card (ATI) and still be able to access the frame buffer?  when i do this, the FB is garbled
[06:00] <`DaGuy> yelek - it was not bios ... it was an autoexec.bat command
[06:00] <pawan> how to recover lost partition in ubuntu
[06:00] <zazeem> AAA: in the directory i have a file called makefile.in and makefile.am
[06:00] <yelek> goatmale: anyway to fix this problem?
[06:00] <pawan> which command is used
[06:00] <lecaros> !gparted
[06:00] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:00] <agnes> hey all!
[06:01] <AAA> CokeNCode  google says...  http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/saa7134.html
[06:01] <agnes> I was wondering how I can convert my kubuntu system to ubuntu.
[06:01] <aqau_inter_fly> AAA: thanks a lot it worked
[06:01] <pawan> how to run this command
[06:01] <zcat[1] > !gpart
[06:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about gpart - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:01] <AAA> zazeem  you don't have the devel tools installed? g++ gcc etc... ?
[06:01] <cmt> agnes:  its possible.  check into apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:01] <whiteguysamurai> i see there are far too many question, i think i'll just wait my turn.
[06:01] <CrashProne> If my second hard drive I'm wanting to setup in grub is "HDB", with just one partition, would it be (hd1,0) in GRUB?
[06:01] <agnes> cmt: How's that?
[06:01] <zazeem> AAA: i dont know ill look
[06:01] <yelek> goatmale: anyway to fix this problem?
[06:01] <AAA> aqau_inter_fly  be careful with your perm, that should get you started though
[06:02] <goatmale> !ping
[06:02] <ubotu> pong
[06:02] <zazeem> AAA: what ones are there?
[06:02] <aqau_inter_fly> AAA: what is perm?
[06:02] <dr_willis> CrashProne,  i think so.. rember grub starts counting at 0, and it skips the cdrom drive. (I think)
[06:02] <goatmale> not that I know of.
[06:02] <cmt> agnes:  i dont know the details... but some googling should provide it
[06:02] <goatmale> but I am noob too
[06:02] <CrashProne> Arright
[06:02] <AAA> zazeem  ubuntu has a handy virtual pkg for the devel tools, someone smarter than me knows what it is
[06:02] <goatmale> it happens on two of my computers
[06:02] <CrashProne> This should be easy then.. thanks dr_willis
[06:02] <cmt> agnes: once the system is set up properly, just issuing a command should do it
[06:02] <_marshall> agnes: i dont know if you can convert, but you can install the metapackage 'ubuntu-desktop' and uninstall 'kubuntu-desktop'
[06:02] <AAA> aqau_inter_fly  chmod == chang mode == change permissions on a dir/file
[06:02] <Shak-> whats a recommended FTP client to use?
[06:02] <agnes> cmt: the hits just say that it's possible.
[06:02] <Shak-> besides gftp
[06:02] <agnes> _marshall: I figured as much..
[06:02] <dr_willis> CrashProne,  also you can edit the grub boot lines from the grub menus. :) makes it easy to change
[06:03] <dr_willis> CrashProne,  for one boot at least.
[06:03] <zazeem> does anyone know what the devel tool package is under ubuntu?
[06:03] <CokeNCode> wth ... where is the modprobe configuration file in ubuntu ?
[06:03] <agnes> _marshall: but I was wondering about how to reasonably uninstall kubuntu-desktop and all packages depending upon it.
[06:03] <goatmale> !ftp
[06:03] <aqau_inter_fly> AAA: oh ic
  FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:03] <Shak-> hmm, konqueror
[06:03] <cmt> agnes:  if you open up synaptic, search for "ubuntu" as marshall suggests i think there are packages that "define" kubuntu or ubuntu.... uninstalling one and installing the other maybe all you need
[06:03] <faldor> hey im having problems compiling wine on amd64 using http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[06:03] <_marshall> agnes: i thinks that just doing 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop' would do the trick
[06:03] <zazeem> does anyone know what the devel tool package is under ubuntu?
[06:03] <Shak-> isnt that a web browser mainly?
[06:03] <whiteguysamurai> just for future reference, network detection can force your machine to cash.
[06:04] <agnes> _marshall: it's a meta-package..
[06:04] <yelek> oh ok, well thx though goatmale
[06:04] <AAA> !devel
[06:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about devel - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:04] <AAA> !dev
[06:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about dev - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:04] <whiteguysamurai> and ubuntu is highly picky.
[06:04] <_marshall> agnes: make sure you install ubuntu-desktop before you uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <goatmale> sorry.. if you figure out how to do it notify me ^^
[06:04] <waikitz> !mencoder
[06:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about mencoder - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:05] <zazeem> AAA: think i found it
[06:05] <AAA> zazeem  I am not sure what the virtual pkg name is, I do know you need: autoconf automake gcc g++ make (and a few more the depends _may_ satisfy)
[06:05] <gmoore> anyone here have a 2007fpw monitor?
[06:05] <cmt> agnes:  if you open up synaptic, search for "ubuntu" as marshall suggests i think there are packages that "define" kubuntu or ubuntu.... uninstalling one and installing the other maybe all you need
[06:05] <cmt> oops
[06:05] <cmt> anyone here know how to use hardware acceleration on my graphics card (ATI) and still be able to access the frame buffer?  when i do this, the FB is garbled
[06:05] <agnes> cmt: : )
[06:06] <_marshall> agnes: im not sure
[06:06] <faldor> when i do make depend i get this at the end make[2] : *** [casemap.o]  Error 1
[06:06] <faldor> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/faldor/Desktop/wine-0.9.17/libs/unicode'
[06:06] <faldor> make[1] : *** [unicode]  Error 2
[06:06] <faldor> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/faldor/Desktop/wine-0.9.17/libs'
[06:06] <faldor> make: *** [libs]  Error 2
[06:07] <AAA> faldor  looks like you are missing some libs (ie. devel pkg's) the source needs
[06:07] <whiteguysamurai> CMT: you need to get the right drivers.http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[06:07] <agnes> hmmm.
[06:07] <agnes> _marshall: that won't do it.
[06:07] <agnes> removing kubuntu-desktop just removes that metapackage, and nothing else.
[06:07] <_marshall> agnes: yua
[06:08] <ku> agnes: I have both installed (had Ubuntu installed first, then installed "kubuntu-desktop") and I've yet to run into any problems... Good thing is, I get to pick which programs to use from which desktop^^... but then again, I'm a complete nooob
[06:08] <_tcc> Where does apt-get install java
[06:08] <_tcc> ?
[06:08] <ku> and I can switch between the two by logging out.
[06:08] <agnes> ku: I have done that before, but I don't want to that here.
[06:08] <agnes> to do that here..
[06:08] <ku> kk ^^
[06:09] <whiteguysamurai> as for my problem, it's obvious no one understands nor is interested in my problem, so i guess ubuntu isn't for me.
[06:09] <dr_willis> thats what the forums are for.
[06:09] <cmt> whiteguysamurai:  ok, that looks good thanks a lot
[06:09] <whiteguysamurai> you're welcome CMT
[06:10] <cmt> whiteguysamurai:  what problem are you having?
[06:10] <_tcc> Slackware
[06:10] <CokeNCode> ok, guys, how do i edit my modprobe configuration file
[06:10] <CokeNCode> i mean ... where the heck is it
[06:10] <CokeNCode> this tutorial is telling me its /etc/modprobe.conf ... but ... it's not there
[06:11] <whiteguysamurai> i am unable to get past network setup while loading 6.06 to live cd, so therefore i am unable to install outright with the given option.
[06:11] <Riyo> where can I see a list of harware supporte by ubuntu?
[06:11] <cmt> whiteguysamurai: what does it say?
[06:11] <skavenge> wiki.ubuntu.com, like everything else
[06:11] <whiteguysamurai> it will try to set up network, then it switches to verbose, and freezes
[06:12] <cmt> no errors?
[06:12] <scipio_africanus> Riyo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:12] <whiteguysamurai> nothing, just sits there, then goes to a verbose version of the graphic loader
[06:12] <AAA> whiteguysamurai  what is your problem?
[06:12] <Riyo> thank you
[06:12] <cmt> whiteguysamurai:  thats very odd.  while im seasoned in linux, ubuntu is new to me.... still ive never seen that.
[06:12] <dr_willis> Hmm. the 'alternative install cd' is the good old fashioned text installer aint it?
[06:13] <cmt> whiteguysamurai:  just for kicks, have you tried burning another copy of the disk?  maybe its a bad burn?
[06:13] <whiteguysamurai> i am unable to install the operating system because it refuses to skip past the network detection, while loading the live cd to install.
[06:13] <whiteguysamurai> ok.
[06:13] <whiteguysamurai> these are ship it disks
[06:13] <cmt> whiteguysamurai:  it know its a lame answer, but usually it should give you an error at least.... something odd is going on
[06:13] <dr_willis> or at least it SEEMS to be halting at the network detection.
[06:14] <AAA> whiteguysamurai  what nic is it puking on?:
[06:14] <whiteguysamurai> i have several.
[06:14] <skavenge> whiteguysamurai: so download the alternate cd iso, which uses a text install, some people have troubles with the livecd
[06:14] <whiteguysamurai> DWL-ag530
[06:14] <whiteguysamurai> wireless.
[06:14] <AAA> OH
[06:14] <AAA> there ya go
[06:14] <jimlau> hey guys.. what's the best way to upgrade to 6.06 from Warty (5.x)? download a new ISO and burn and install from that?
[06:14] <whiteguysamurai> text install, i should try that, but i have no knowledge of CLI whatsoever.
[06:15] <AAA> jimlau  NO, edit your sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:15] <_tcc> Does anyone know where apt-get install java?
[06:15] <skavenge> jimlau: thats what id suggest but you can do it over the net by upgrading to breezy tjem to dapper
[06:15] <AAA> jimlau  just substitue hoary for dapper in sources.list
[06:15] <whiteguysamurai> but it seems upavoidable.
[06:15] <jimlau> alrighty..  It's not responding...
[06:18] <skavenge> digital: down
[06:18] <digital> skavenge: What do I replace it with
[06:18] <Riyo> awesome --> Pre-configured Systems
[06:18] <Riyo> :)
[06:18] <scipio_africanus> digital: delete us
[06:18] <skavenge> digital: check your sources.list take 'us.' out of the front of any of the repos
[06:19] <digital> will do
[06:19] <digital> be back
[06:19] <nootrope> anyone else having trouble downloading updates via apt-get?
[06:19] <skavenge> *sigh*
[06:19] <digital> nootrope: I am. Talk to skavenge
[06:19] <_azrael> nootrope: See that earlier comment about deleting the us. in front of archive servers
[06:20] <`DaGuy> nootrope - server down most of day
[06:20] <_marshall> hey guys
[06:20] <skavenge> nootrope: check your sources.list take 'us.' out of the front of any of the repos, U.S. ones are down
[06:20] <nootrope> -azrael, digital: thanks. i just dropped in. missed that
[06:20] <AAA> in debian the us servers are at the umn.edu and they always go down
[06:20] <nootrope> thanks, all.
[06:21] <_marshall> i just used automatix to install frostwire, but when i try to run it, it goes throught the loading sequence, the main window comes up but there is nothing in it
[06:21] <goatmale> marshall did you install java?
[06:21] <skavenge> thats probably because you used automatix heh
[06:21] <_marshall> goatmale: i unno. i only checked frostwire in automatix
[06:21] <bensr20det> I have been following along with the servers being down and that i need to remove the "us." from the source.list but I am very new to this how is that done?
[06:21] <digital> nootrope: It looks like my "apt-get update" is working
[06:21] <goatmale> hey skav back off automatix rocks.
[06:22] <_tcc> it wouldn't start without java
[06:22] <nootrope> lucky you, digital ;)
[06:22] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having problems getting packages
[06:22] <skavenge> goatmale: automatix is an awful script that should never have been made
[06:22] <goatmale> why not?
[06:22] <nootrope> mine hangs after the security updates
[06:22] <_marshall> _tcc: it did all that "Loading" business
[06:22] <_tcc> Yeah, the splash screen?
[06:22] <Riyo> whats HardwareSupport/Machines/Barebones?
[06:22] <_marshall> _tcc: ya
[06:22] <Riyo> I dont get it
[06:23] <kitsuneofdoom> I cannot get anything
[06:23] <goatmale> kitsuneofdoom the us servers are down
[06:23] <Riyo> like shuttle pc's?
[06:23] <_tcc> Then nothing is wrong with java.
[06:23] <kitsuneofdoom> oh
[06:23] <kitsuneofdoom> goatmale: any idea when they will be up?
[06:23] <goatmale> do you know how to edit your sources.list
[06:23] <goatmale> nope
[06:23] <skavenge> goatmale: it destroys alot of peoples systems, its just a script that -totally- skips the ubuntu package system which in turn makes even more headaches down the road
[06:23] <AAA> mmmm headaches....
[06:23] <ku> whew... enough tinkering with Linux for today... ^^... I still got a while before I make the full switch
[06:23] <goatmale> how will it make more headaces?
[06:24] <ku> Now back to my comfy 'ol windows! ^^
[06:24] <goatmale> ew.
[06:24] <ku> thanks for the help everybody
[06:24] <_marshall> skavenge: do you know how i might be able to fix my frostwire?
[06:24] <bensr20det> goatmale: could you tell me how to edit sources.list?
[06:24] <_marshall> ku: lol np man
[06:24] <kitsuneofdoom> ku: Er, I feel the opposite now
[06:24] <_tcc> windows is not comfy
[06:24] <_tcc> lol
[06:24] <skavenge> goatmale: package conflicts, apt having  unmet dependencies, etc etc
[06:24] <AAA> ku, hehe, it is ALOT more user friendly than it was 3y ago :0
[06:24] <_marshall> ku: thats what im here for
[06:24] <_tcc> it's like hell
[06:24] <AAA> bensr20det  sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:24] <_tcc> Coming to Linux, you need to jump into the flames and kill yourself.
[06:24] <digital> nootrope: Are you having problems ??
[06:24] <_tcc> Go with Slackware first.
[06:24] <skavenge> _marshall: did you install java? i didnt see your reply to that?
[06:24] <goatmale> ben: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <nootrope> digital, yep!
[06:25] <bensr20det> thanks :)
[06:25] <ku> AAA: I know, I remember like 7-8 years ago, I tried to install it but there was nothing to refer to
[06:25] <goatmale> and then erase the servers with us in front of them
[06:25] <kitsuneofdoom> I don't think I have anything too important to get, so as long as the servers will go back up in the next week or so, I'll be fine
[06:25] <AAA> boooo! slackware debian uber alles
[06:25] <_tcc> AAA, hehehe
[06:25] <digital> nootrope: Did you take out "us." from your sources list
[06:25] <_tcc> _marshall, type java
[06:25] <_marshall> skavenge: i uhh... dont know. i checked frostwire in automatix and i saw something about java in the terminal output
[06:25] <ku> But then again, I was like 12 years old back then ... ^^
[06:25] <_marshall> ok
[06:25] <gdb> I started with Linux 12 years ago.
[06:25] <_tcc> if you get tons of crap, it's installed
[06:25] <ku> wow ^^
[06:25] <_marshall> ok i got tons of crap
[06:25] <nootrope> digital, not yet. trying to find it... :\
[06:25] <_tcc> java is probably fine though, if you got the splash screen
[06:25] <AAA> ku haha, never to young....or dumb :) look at me
[06:25] <gdb> Slackware 2.0 here, kernel 1.1.59.
[06:26] <digital> nootrope: on the command line use nano
[06:26] <goatmale> i started linux 3 days ago.
[06:26] <kitsuneofdoom> uh...then why are you hanging out on the Ubuntu IRC?
[06:26] <digital> nootrope: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <cmt> gdb: are you serious?
[06:26] <zcat[1] > SLS, kernel 0.97 iirc...
[06:26] <gdb> cmt: Yes
[06:26] <ku> goatmale: I beat you! i started it yesterday ^^
[06:26] <cmt> gdb:  thats impressive
[06:26] <skavenge> _marshall: well it requires java to be installed, and i have no clue about automatix so id use the wiki to install it but thats your option,
[06:26] <gdb> kitsuneofdoom: Who?
[06:26] <cmt> gdb:  when was that released?
[06:26] <nootrope> digital, thanks for the pointer. still having a ;lot of trouble getting used to where things are
[06:26] <gdb> cmt: Was back in college.  A geek friend of mine convinced me to install it since I liked playing around on the Unix machines at school.
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> oh...sorry, that's where you started
[06:27] <gdb> cmt: 1994
[06:27] <_marshall> skavenge: i typed java and it gave me a bunch of usage options and whatnot
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> not what you're using now
[06:27] <lufis> How do I boot directly into command line?
[06:27] <AAA> 1994, sheez linux was barely beta
[06:27] <digital> nootrope: Same here. I'm a CentOS users. Or was one.
[06:27] <_marshall> lufis: uninstall ubuntu-desktop and gnome
[06:27] <_azrael> lufis: Are you looking to do that by default, or temporarily for repairs?
[06:27] <_tcc> Yeah, the Java is fine in his case.
[06:27] <cmt> gdb:  haha. and i figured 1997 made me a vet around here
[06:27] <_marshall> lufis: i think theres probably an easier
[06:27] <_marshall> lufis: way
[06:27] <gdb> lufis: You need to rename/delete the /etc/rc?.d/S??gdm symlinks.
[06:27] <lufis> _marshall: Haha, I'd like to keep the GUI, thanks.
[06:27] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm fairly new...January '05
[06:28] <_marshall> lufis: lol ok
[06:28] <_tcc> I'm hitting one year soon.
[06:28] <lufis> _azrael: Just temporarily
[06:28] <cmt> lufis:  you only need to do it in rc2.d
[06:28] <gdb> lufis: Then you can do /etc/init.d/gdm stop to turn off gdm without rebooting.
[06:28] <_tcc> But I started with a trial by fire.
[06:28] <AAA> Feb 2000 here
[06:28] <skavenge> _marshall: well it thinks its installed then - open a terminal and run frostwire and see if your getting any errors is about all i can suggest
[06:28] <_marshall> skavenge: so ah
[06:28] <_marshall> skavenge: ok
[06:28] <nootrope> digital, i guess it'll soon be as natural as breathing
[06:28] <kitsuneofdoom> First Fedora 3, then Ubuntu Hoary, Debian Sarge, then back to Ubuntu for Drake
[06:29] <gdb> I think Debian suffers from a serious case of "not invented here" when it comes to Red Hat's service and chkconfig commands.
[06:29] <lufis> gdb: I read it has something to do with init levels? Can I just change those somhow?
[06:29] <kitsuneofdoom> I think it's improved from Hoary to Drake
[06:29] <kitsuneofdoom> quite a lot
[06:29] <kitsuneofdoom> well, obviously it's improved
[06:29] <sparkleytone> alright any usb gurus around?
[06:29] <goatmale> does edgy come out next?
[06:29] <_marshall> kitsuneofdoom: i agree
[06:29] <gdb> lufis: The /etc/rc?.d directories refer to the various run levels.  The ? is replaced by the number of the runlevel.
[06:29] <cmt> gdb:  however, apt is FAR better than redhats yum IMHO
[06:29] <_tcc> usb rulez
[06:29] <sparkleytone> i'm experiencing much slower than acceptable speeds with my external enclosure
[06:29] <lufis> gdb: Ah
[06:29] <_marshall> sparkleytone: whats the problem son?
[06:29] <AAA> all you need to be a linux user: screen mutt vim netcat
[06:29] <zcat[1] > !edgy
[06:29] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:29] <_tcc> cmt, mmm yea
[06:29] <goatmale> when it comes out how do I upgrade?
[06:29] <_tcc> VIM!!!
[06:29] <_tcc> netcat!!!
[06:30] <AAA> hehe
[06:30] <gdb> cmt: I can't disagree there.  The dpkg/apt system is missing some features I really liked in rpm, but apt seems more flexible (by far) overall.
[06:30] <_marshall> sparkleytone: whats an external enclosure?
[06:30] <sparkleytone> and here's the kicker...its obviously some sort of problem, because when i do an hdparm -tT...it disconnects and reconnects with the next device node
[06:30] <lt> just installed 6.06... trying do do a apt-get update, but it can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com... is it me or is somethign wrong with the site?  I can't get to it from my browser either.
[06:30] <kitsuneofdoom> server down
[06:30] <digital> nootrope: Yup!
[06:30] <_tcc> Vim, nc, nmap, cat, perl.
[06:30] <gdb> lt: Apparently the US archives are down for the time being.
[06:30] <kitsuneofdoom> sorry, lt
[06:30] <sparkleytone> usb external hd enclosure
[06:30] <AAA> gdb  WHAT! deb is SO supperior to rpm....
[06:30] <lt> ugh
[06:30] <gdb> I don't know of any ETA.
[06:30] <goatmale> It it's down
[06:30] <_tcc> well, cd and ls
[06:30] <nootrope> digital. it's working!
[06:30] <digital> nootrope: Cool!
[06:30] <bensr20det> once i edit sources.list how do i save it?
[06:31] <Riyo> synamptic is like a place to download everything linux related? or just ubuntu? or just ubuntu friendly?
[06:31] <gdb> I feel that RPM is a superior package format, but dpkg seems to be a superior package management system.
[06:31] <goatmale> crtl s ben
[06:31] <digital> nootrope: Now we can both start intalling applications
[06:31] <bensr20det> thanks
[06:31] <kitsuneofdoom> Anything on Ubuntu's repositories
[06:31] <goatmale> hey IT.
[06:31] <gdb> And honestly, for most people, the management system is what matter.
[06:31] <gdb> matters*
[06:31] <kitsuneofdoom> a ton of applications, Riyo
[06:31] <digital> I need to pass this info allong
[06:31] <lt> still debating betwen ubuntu and suse 10.1.... this apt-get problem is frustrating
[06:31] <_marshall> bensr20det: you have to edit it as root in order to save it
[06:31] <tripppy> how do i repair/recover a ubuntu install?
[06:31] <sparkleytone> anyone know where to start troubleshooting my issue?
[06:31] <zcat[1] > bah!! what was wrong with tar.gz's anyhow... :)
[06:31] <nootrope> digital : wheee! what a way to spend saturday night!
[06:31] <intelligi> The Synaptic Package Manager rocks.
[06:31] <intelligi> Ubuntu is awesome.
[06:31] <goatmale> IT it's not an apt-get problem it's a server problem.
[06:31] <zcat[1] > in my day we built everything from source, and we liked it!!
[06:32] <_marshall> bensr20det: press alt+f2 and type gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:32] <gdb> lt: It's not really an issue with the Ubuntu operating system, but yes, it's frustrating when you can't apt-get things easily.  You can, however, delete the "us." part from each line in /etc/apt/sources.list to get on your way.
[06:32] <gdb> lt: you may choose to replace them later.
[06:32] <bensr20det> _marshall: I did sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:32] <bensr20det> was that wrong?
[06:32] <goatmale> use gedit
[06:32] <ku> zcat[1] : Youths of modern day are too occupied with TV and movies to sit there and learn how to code ^^
[06:32] <kitsuneofdoom> can't you upgrade Ubuntu without a full reinstall?
[06:32] <_marshall> bensr20det: i never use vim so i dont know how to save
[06:32] <_marshall> kitsuneofdoom: yeah
[06:32] <AAA> what is wrong with vim?
[06:32] <goatmale> gedit is easier
[06:32] <AAA> so
[06:32] <goatmale> IMHO
[06:32] <_marshall> kitsuneofdoom: i think all you have to do is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:32] <AAA> hehe
[06:32] <goatmale> it's his first day XD
[06:32] <gdb> Package formats and management systems aside, I feel as long as someone is using Linux in some form, they're on the right track.  I can't really disparage any distribution because they all fill a niche that's important to someone, somewhere.
[06:33] <bensr20det> what does "vim" mean?
[06:33] <shriphani> vi improved
[06:33] <_marshall> AAA: i unno, i just dont use it. its either nano or gedit for me
[06:33] <goatmale> it's a text editor
[06:33] <bensr20det> ah
[06:33] <goatmale> so is gedit
[06:33] <_marshall> gedit is sexy
[06:33] <goatmale> gedit is what i use.
[06:33] <_tcc> ku, not me
[06:33] <shriphani> i use emacs
[06:33] <kitsuneofdoom> _marshall: Ok. I have Dapper now, but hey, when Edgy comes out, it's nice to not have to reistall
[06:33] <_marshall> tabbed, syntax and all that
[06:33] <lt> ah, thanks for the 'remove us.' tip
[06:33] <lt> that worked
[06:33] <_marshall> kitsuneofdoom: yayuh
[06:33] <Dyss> Hello
[06:33] <kitsuneofdoom> I want to learn either emacs or vim
[06:34] <_marshall> wats so good about emacs?
[06:34] <zcat[1] > getting used to nano though since it's default with ubuntu
[06:34] <_tcc> learn vim
[06:34] <shriphani> emacs has a tutorial too
[06:34] <_tcc> tis fast
[06:34] <ike_> Can anyone tell this nub why ubuntu kernel confiurations with SMP disabled break X (no screens found even though i810 is built and loaded like in the other configs)?
[06:34] <zcat[1] > i can use vi if i have to.. but only if I really HAVE to!
[06:34] <gdb> kitsuneofdoom: If you want your knowledge to be instantly portable to other versions of Unix, then vi is what you want to go with.  Regardless if you prefer vi or emacs, knowledge of vi is important in general system administration.
[06:34] <lt> whch is preferred on ubuntu?  inetd or xinetd?  (I'm coming from redhat so I'm used to xinetd)
[06:34] <AAA> kitsuneofdoom  vimtutor
[06:34] <skavenge> i dont mind nano, i was a pico user previously
[06:34] <_tcc> Coding is better in vim.
[06:34] <gdb> kitsuneofdoom: vi comes with every modern Unix, emacs does not.  But like I said, even if you prefer to use emacs, it's good to know vi.
[06:34] <kitsuneofdoom> I shall learn vi then
[06:35] <_tcc> ues
[06:35] <_tcc> YES
[06:35] <shriphani> i use vim too although just once in a while
[06:35] <gdb> kitsuneofdoom: I'd suggest trying both.  They both have a fair learning curve.
[06:35] <AAA> zcat[1]   a crusty hack like you bad mouting vi ? wO
[06:35] <sparkleytone> my usb problems...here's a dump of dmesg --> http://paste.lisp.org/display/23016
[06:35] <kitsuneofdoom> I tried vi, it was confusing, I tried emacs, it was equally confusing
[06:35] <shriphani> for python it has to be emacs
[06:35] <zcat[1] > i never got used to vi.
[06:35] <_tcc> it's so easy
[06:35] <_tcc> and fun
[06:35] <AAA> kitsuneofdoom  vim == vi improved :)
[06:35] <kitsuneofdoom> ah, I like python...so there is a factor here...suggesting emacs
[06:35] <_tcc> and fast
[06:35] <gdb> zcat[1] : I end up typing vi commands in gedit and notepad. :-(
[06:36] <_marshall> am i wrong or are vim, emacs and nano all just terminal text editors?
[06:36] <goatmale> !vi
[06:36] <sparkleytone> i would def love some help, or maybe redirection to a channel that could help
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about vi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:36] <goatmale> !vim
[06:36] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[06:36] <goatmale> !emacs
[06:36] <_tcc> lol
[06:36] <kitsuneofdoom> why can't or shouldn't one code python in vi?
[06:36] <gdb> kitsuneofdoom: It's not really a question of one or the other, you should use either vi OR both vi and emacs.  Knowing emacs without knowing vi isn't portable beyond Linux.  And even Ubuntu does not come with emacs installed by default, but it does come with vi.
[06:36] <kitsuneofdoom> well...can't is obviously not
[06:36] <_tcc> kitsuneofdoom, it really doesn't matter
[06:36] <AAA> emacs is apparently the end all be all for word processors (if you let a lisp lover tell it...)
[06:36] <kitsuneofdoom> I thought so
[06:37] <goatmale> I know gedit
[06:37] <gdb> kitsuneofdoom: They're referring to the python macros that allow you to more easily edit python code.  It's nothing that you *need* but it's a nice to have.
[06:37] <_tcc> I am checking out emacs now.
[06:37] <_tcc> What the hell is this buffer?
[06:37] <_tcc> lol
[06:37] <shriphani> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[06:37] <AAA> HAHA
[06:37] <_tcc> How obnoxious.
[06:37] <gdb> _tcc: The buffer is where your text is stored prior to being comitted to a file.
[06:37] <kitsuneofdoom> I will try to learn vi...any suggestions on a good tutorial?
[06:37] <_marshall> what is there to love about these text editors?! whats the difference between them?
[06:37] <AAA> you need 20 fingers to use emacs...
[06:37] <_tcc> gdb, yeah but this crpa t the top?
[06:38] <gdb> _tcc: Crap at the top?  I don't know to what you're referring.  Are you using a tty or X version of emacs?  And please note that my familiarity with emacs commands is fairly passing.
[06:38] <Dyss> hehe, editors
[06:38] <_tcc> kitsuneofdoom, type vimtutor
[06:38] <sparkleytone> anyone?
[06:38] <kitsuneofdoom> where?
[06:38] <Xenguy> people find their editor, and then go religious ;-)
[06:38] <clarity_> has anyone had any trouble with mozilla-plugin-vlc?
[06:38] <PuGz> hey guys. anyone know how I can get my plustek opticpro 4800p scanner to work with dapper? I have found info about the plustek_pp drivers (the scanner uses the parallel port)
[06:38] <AAA> kitsuneofdoom  yeah, that is what I said, vimtutor
[06:38] <kitsuneofdoom> nevermind
[06:39] <shriphani> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[06:39] <gdb> I will say that if you're a purist from even a historical standpoint, you'd want to use emacs for no reason other than emacs was written by Richard M. Stallman while vi was written by spawn of Satan Bill Joy.
[06:39] <AAA> hjkl
[06:39] <Xenguy> but damn vim is good :P
[06:39] <_tcc> yes it is
[06:39] <_tcc> vi is sym linked to vim
[06:39] <gdb> er, written by Bill Joy. ;-)
[06:39] <shriphani> you can read email, irc etc. with emacs
[06:39] <AAA> shimmmy  you can use irssi and vim and mutt too =p
[06:39] <sparkleytone> shouldnt this conversation go to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[06:39] <gdb> Dyss: One of the 3 people that founded Sun Microsystems.
[06:40] <_tcc> I like Jedit for java.
[06:40] <AAA> shimmmy  all in a screen session for half the RAM
[06:40] <shriphani> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[06:40] <_tcc> It's awesome.
[06:40] <_tcc> But Gui....
[06:40] <_tcc> so meh
[06:40] <Dyss> ah ok
[06:40] <shriphani> will anyone answer my question lol
[06:40] <kitsuneofdoom> I think I will do vimtutor in the morning
[06:40] <sparkleytone> they're too busy being offtopic shriphani
[06:40] <Xenguy> shriphani: emacs is a coders paradise (an IDE) but I am a vim guy all the way (I wish I could learn both, and I've tried)
[06:40] <AAA> /usr/lib/include ?
[06:41] <gdb> shriphani: They end up going in /usr/include/linux
[06:41] <AAA>  /usr/src/linux/build ?
[06:41] <shriphani> ok
[06:41] <sparkleytone> http://paste.lisp.org/display/23016
[06:41] <kitsuneofdoom> good bye all
[06:41] <sparkleytone> my usb hd is slow and likes to disconnect when tested...anyone?
[06:42] <AAA> shimmmy  did you install the `uname -r`-kernel-headers?
[06:42] <gdb> shriphani: There are actually other locations, the package is linux-kernel-headers.  If you installed build-essential, you'll have that package.  You can do dpkg -L linux-kernel-headers to list the files.
[06:42] <shriphani> ok
[06:42] <poje> gdb: just because I admire RMS for his abilities doesn't mean I think he's sane or that I should use emacs over vim ;d
[06:42] <gdb> shriphani: If you plan to compile anything, then build-essential is... essential. ;-)
[06:43] <gdb> shriphani: dpkg -s linux-kernel-headers will give you the package blurb.
[06:43] <AAA> haha, poje said RMS, haha
[06:44] <shriphani> i The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.11) does not match your running
[06:44] <shriphani> kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).  Even if the module were to compile
[06:44] <shriphani> successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[06:44] <shriphani> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:44] <shriphani> kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build/include]
[06:44] <poje> shriphani: have you not been paying attn?
[06:44] <shriphani> damn why am i having probs while installing vmware player
[06:44] <poje> AAA: and? ;d
[06:44] <AAA> you need the exact version
[06:45] <gdb> 2.6.11 is what ships with Ubuntu and is the current version.
[06:45] <AAA> I can't look it up ATM, I am on a debian box. but:: apt-cache search linux headers
[06:45] <gdb> <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu18 to be precise.
[06:45] <shriphani> then is this problem unsolvable
[06:45] <omar> Hallo, Ich bin zruckgekommen leute :)
[06:46] <gdb> !de
[06:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:46] <Vilkacis> How do I let anyone edit a set of files in a directory?
[06:46] <Vilkacis> Give full permissions to all users?
[06:46] <omar> ja, danke vielen :)
[06:46] <zcat[1] > Vilkacis: chmod a+rwx foo/
[06:47] <poje> Vilkacis: chmod -R 777 your/dir/
[06:47] <gdb> Vilkacis: Add -R between the chmod and a in that command.
[06:47] <gdb> Vilkacis: It's better, however, to add the files to a new group and then place all the users you want modifying them in that group.
[06:47] <AAA> shimmmy  basically you need either the configured (and booted to, loaded kernel) or the kernel headers for the exact ver of your kernel. dpkg -l|grep linux should show you what linux kernel pkg's you have installed.  look for the kernel-image pkg you want to have the exact same version of the kernel-headers pkg
[06:47] <Xenguy> Vilkacis: maybe create a new group, then add the users to that group?
[06:47] <gdb> For example, create the group "staff" and then chgrp -R staff foo/
[06:48] <gdb> placing the users in the staff group
[06:48] <sparkleytone> http://paste.lisp.org/display/23016  <--- usb disconnects and slow performance...i have both apic and acpi off...anyone think they can help?
[06:48] <omar> I'm back fellows, does anyone knows how to configure gdm to make all windows transparent so my wallpaper is always visible ?
[06:48] <Vilkacis> It would be better if I knew what I was doing.
[06:48] <thrice`> is anyone using ubuntu 64 + broadcom dell 1390 ?
[06:48] <thrice`> for wireless
[06:49] <Vilkacis> I just need my apache server php files to be able to edit their own files under their directory, and that seemed like the fastest way to do it. And at least now I can manually edit them as my regular user.
[06:49] <AAA> b000000 broadcom!!!!
[06:49] <gdb> AAA: Any idea why Ubuntu ships a linux-kernel-headers package that won't work with the shipping linux-image package?  I have a feeling that they probably work together just fine, and that there's some other misconfiguration going on here.  I can't imagine that something that egregious would slip out into release.
[06:49] <omar> nop.... haven't used ubuntu 64
[06:49] <gdb> Vilkacis: Then you need to change the ownership of the files to www-data.
[06:49] <Xenguy> Vilkacis: man addgroup  and  man adduser (or find some GUI :-)
[06:49] <Xenguy> Vilkacis: oh
[06:50] <AAA> gdb  I haven't seen his pkg list have you? I doubt that is the deal
[06:50] <bilss_> hi
[06:50] <Vilkacis> gdb: How do I remove the current 'all' permissions and give the directory to www-data, then?
[06:50] <gdb> Vilkacis: The webserver will run your php scripts as www-data as that's the user it runs as itself.  If they're owned by www-data, then the webserver will have permission to modify them.
[06:50] <AAA> Vilkacis  man chmod
[06:50] <Mattchewie> SHABANG!
[06:50] <Mattchewie> ...its a pepper :P
[06:50] <gdb> Vilkacis: find foo -type f -print exec chmod 644 {} \;
[06:50] <Vilkacis> I already did man chmod, that really didn't help, as I had no idea about www-data when I read it, thus making it completely useless.
[06:51] <AAA> Vilkacis  chmod a-x /dir removes the execute bit from the /dir directory
[06:51] <gdb> Vilkacis: find foo -type d -print exec chmod 755 {} \;
[06:51] <omar> does anyone knows how to configure gdm to make all windows transparent ?
[06:51] <Vilkacis> gdb: So run those 3 lines?
[06:51] <limes24> so, I installed Ubuntu on a Compaq tonight, and all was going well.. until I installed updates and tried to restart.
[06:51] <Xenguy> Vilkacis: /var/www should be owned by root; subdirectories can be assigned to different groups and users as convenient
[06:51] <limes24> the computer doesn't run at all anymore..
[06:51] <Mattchewie> limes24, what kind of compaq ?
[06:52] <gdb> Vilkacis: The two lines I provided will set all your scripts to rw-r--r-- and all your directories to rwxr-xr-x (under the directory foo).
[06:52] <AAA> Vilkacis  chmod - change perms chown - change owner chgrp change group
[06:52] <limes24> an oldish desktop..
[06:52] <gdb> Vilkacis: You can modify that as you like.
[06:52] <limes24> Celeron ~766, 192MB RAM.
[06:52] <limes24> nothing too exciting, but it ran alright before the restart
[06:52] <Mattchewie> limes24, I run it on a compaq v2000z and it runs like butta :P
[06:52] <gdb> then you'd run the chown -R www-data.www-data foo command (that will set the user and group ownerships to www-data.
[06:52] <bilss_> how to set environment in ~.bash after installing source files
[06:52] <jmauricio> algum do brasil ai
[06:53] <AAA> gdb that will do it recursively and he said he didn't want that?
[06:53] <Vilkacis> gdb: The first one did not work. 'Paths must proceed expression'. I replaced 'foo' with 'matrix'
[06:53] <noiesmo> chown -R www-data:www-data
[06:53] <gdb> Vilkacis: Well, you need to be above the directory you're modifying.  Apparently you do not want this to be recursive?  What is it you're trying to modify?
[06:53] <jmauricio> algum do brasil ai
[06:53] <Mattchewie> limes24, what is doing? ...does it boot at all or does it panic on boot o...whats up?
[06:54] <gdb> !br
[06:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:54] <Vilkacis> I have no idea what you mean by recursive.
[06:54] <gdb> Vilkacis: Meaning "the directory and all files and directories under it"
[06:54] <limes24> no video output at all, so no messages
[06:54] <limes24> onboard video, too.
[06:54] <Mattchewie> limes24, even on boot up there is no video ?
[06:54] <gdb> Xenguy: It's necessary under some conditions but those are very rare and generally only necessary on a very temporary basis.
[06:54] <limes24> yeah.
[06:55] <limes24> well, the machine never reall shut down properly by itself
[06:55] <gdb> Xenguy: So overall, yes, I question the wisdom of doing it also. ;-)
[06:55] <Vilkacis> gdb: I gave EVERYONE permissions to the 'matrix' directory, using the chown command I was given a bit ago. And now it is suggested that I return it to just www-data, so what do I need to type to do that?
[06:55] <Vilkacis> gdb: And yes, that directory and all directories benieth it.
[06:55] <Xenguy> gdb: agreed - I remember reading some article that advised against just chowning everything to www-data (IIRC :-)
[06:55] <omar> limes24: Have you tried boot from any live CD like knoppix or Ubuntu live ?
[06:55] <limes24> after all the logout info, it just sat there in limbo, so I switched it off
[06:55] <gdb> Vilkacis: chmod 755 foo -- that will remove the "everyone" permissions from the directory.
[06:55] <bilss_>  how to set environment in ~.bash after installing source files
[06:55] <tripppy> how do i repair/recover a ubuntu install?
[06:55] <Vilkacis> gdb: Recursively?
[06:56] <sparkleytone> http://paste.lisp.org/display/23016  <--- usb disconnects and slow performance...i have both apic and acpi off...anyone think they can help?
[06:56] <gdb> Vilkacis: Then add -R after the chmod.  chmod -R
[06:56] <Xenguy> Vilkacis: everything under a directory
[06:56] <Mattchewie> limes24, did you use the live cd to install xubuntu?
[06:56] <Xenguy> Vilkacis: including sub-directories
[06:56] <Vilkacis> gdb: OK, now how do I recursively give www-data access to the directory?
[06:56] <AAA> isn't : deprecated in favor of .
[06:56] <Xenguy> heh
[06:56] <limes24> no, I used my 5.10 install CD
[06:56] <bilss_>   how to set environment in ~.bash after installing source packages
[06:56] <gdb> Vilkacis: chown -R www-data.www-data foo/
[06:57] <Qwell> gdb: I thought it was the other way around?
[06:57] <omar> limes24: I have a feeling about damage on your HDD
[06:57] <gdb> the / is unecessary but indicates that you're acting on a directory (for you, the computer doesn't care).
[06:57] <Sola6662> i have a prob i was tryin to upgrade to 6.06LTS and i got this error Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:57] <Sola6662> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/Release.gpg Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:57] <Qwell> bob.johnson is much more likely to be a username than bob:johnson
[06:57] <gdb> Qwell: Thought what was the other way around?
[06:57] <noiesmo> Sola6662, the servers down
[06:57] <Vilkacis> gdb: Testing.
[06:57] <nootrope> can anyone tell me why i'm getting a not found error on checkinstall. i'm following instructions on the wiki on installing  some packages and one of the lines of code lists checkinstall
[06:57] <Qwell> . deprecated in favor of :?
[06:57] <gdb> Sola6662: us.archive.ubuntu.com is down, please use archive.ubuntu.com in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
[06:57] <Sola6662> oh ok thank the lords
[06:57] <bilss_>  how to set environment in ~.bash after installing source packages
[06:57] <Xenguy> :
[06:57] <Vilkacis> gdb: It appears to work fine now. Thank you.
[06:58] <limes24> I formatted the (40GB Maxtor) HD during the install process, and it all went fine
[06:58] <gdb> Vilkacis: Sure thing!
[06:58] <Mattchewie> omar, even if the hd is bad I would think he would get video output on boot up?! aye?
[06:58] <Qwell> chown [options]  user[:group]  file...
[06:58] <Qwell> from the chown manpage
[06:58] <gdb> bilss_: Add something like "export VARIABLE=value-you-want" in your .bash_profile filke.
[06:58] <Sola6662> gdb how i add it to the sources list?
[06:58] <gdb> file*
[06:58] <omar> does anyone knows wich is the Windows manager configuration for gdm in Ubuntu ?
[06:58] <Qwell> also from the manpage: POSIX 1003.2 does not allow use of the dot as separator between user name and group name.
[06:58] <gdb> Sola6662: You can edit /etc/apt/sources.list by running the command "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in a terminal.
[06:59] <Flannel> gdb, Sola6662, gksudo instead of sudo for gedit
[06:59] <Sola6662> ok then just add the link?
[06:59] <gdb> Qwell: That's absolutely correct, however, the chown command accepts that syntax (as it does on every other Unix I've used).
[06:59] <Riyo> gksudo is root right?
[06:59] <Qwell> gdb: But it won't, eventually.  Just like tail -1
[06:59] <Flannel> Sola6662: you'll be editing the current url, not adding.
[06:59] <Flannel> Riyo: gksudo is sudo for graphical apps
[06:59] <gdb> Flannel: Either works fine.   The only value add that gtksudo provides is a window to enter your password in rather than a text prompt.
[07:00] <gdb> Qwell: It's been "eventually" for some 10 years now.
[07:00] <Flannel> gdb: no, sudo can cause problems.
[07:00] <Qwell> gdb: :)
[07:00] <Commander-Crowe> is the apt-get up yet?
[07:00] <Riyo> oh...
[07:00] <poje> Flannel: not often
[07:00] <eternalswd> first question is does anyone know how to change the colors of the gnome notification popup?
[07:00] <Qwell> gdb: They really mean it this time. :p
[07:00] <Riyo> sudo is root then?
[07:00] <Mattchewie> limes24, I would say reinstall if its not too much trouble.
[07:00] <Qwell> "c'mon, please?"
[07:00] <bilss_> gdb: thanks so if i install several packages some being deps to others i type what I understand export, say the package is called joe please give me an example
[07:01] <Broadcast> guys, how do i give root powers to my account
[07:01] <nootrope> duh. about checkinstall...it's not installed.
[07:01] <Broadcast> a normal account
[07:01] <eternalswd> second question is does anyone know how to modify the alt-tab list to show the titles of all the windows and not just the selected one?
[07:01] <gdb> bilss_: What are you trying to modify?  What environment variable and what value are you looking to set?
[07:01] <limes24> should I download 6.05 or whatever if I'm going to reinstall anyway?
[07:01] <Mattchewie> limes24, actually......I would even suggest using the dapper version of xubuntu if your looking for something light
[07:01] <Vilkacis> Broadcast: su
[07:01] <AAA> Broadcast  visudo as root
[07:01] <Qwell> limes24: 6.0.6
[07:01] <poje> Broadcast: add it to the admin group
[07:01] <Qwell> 6.06
[07:01] <limes24> aah
[07:01] <gdb> Broadcast: If you want to use sudo, then add them to the group "admin" under Ubuntu.
[07:01] <limes24> why xubuntu over ubuntu?
[07:01] <Sola6662> gdb whats the part do i change?
[07:01] <gdb> There is no need to edit /etc/sudoers.
[07:02] <gdb> Sola6662: Everywhere it says "us.archive.ubuntu.com" change it to "archive.ubuntu.com".
[07:02] <limes24> aah, lightweight. that looks nice.
[07:02] <AAA> gdb  you can give more control over su powers via sudoers than groups
[07:02] <poje> AAA: usually unnecessary though
[07:02] <gdb> AAA: That's absolutely right, but I'm guessing is outside the scope of his question.
[07:02] <bilss_> gbd: i have not installed anything yet but i can give you the name of the source packages and its deps if you want me to
[07:02] <AAA> yes and yes
[07:02] <Qwell> man, this partition has been running for like...
[07:02] <Sola6662> so like this http://archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:02] <Qwell> 1.5 hours?
[07:03] <Qwell> and it's only on disk 1
[07:03] <Mattchewie> limes24, thats what I currenlty use on my laptop and it works great. So far, the best xfce centric distro I have sued
[07:03] <Commander-Crowe> APT-GET IS STILL DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:03] <Commander-Crowe> !caps
[07:03] <limes24> right on.
[07:03] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:03] <gdb> Sola6662: That is correct.  If that does not work, then you may be out of luck.  I'd suggest copying your current sources.list to a new name (perhaps sources.list.20060723) so you can easily restore it to the original configuration at a later date.
[07:03] <poje> Mattchewie: how well does suing distros go?
[07:03] <poje> Commander-Crowe: take out the us. part?
[07:03] <Sola6662> gdb like this "http://archive.ubuntu.com"
[07:03] <poje> Sola6662: yes
[07:03] <Commander-Crowe> poje: it isn't there
[07:03] <tripppy> how do i repair/recover a ubuntu install?
[07:03] <Sola6662> oh ok
[07:03] <garryF> That partition isn't running Qwell, its walkin. You sure that drive is ok?
[07:03] <AAA> suing distos? WTF
[07:03] <Broadcast> not working
[07:03] <Sola6662> thx
[07:03] <Mattchewie> poje, hahah very well :P
[07:03] <gdb> Sola6662: That is correct.  Like I said, you may want to back up your current file to a new name so you can easily back out of any changes.
[07:04] <Broadcast> still gives me the error
[07:04] <Broadcast> Cannot move "/home/omra...-<IP_ADDRESS>" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.
[07:04] <Qwell> garryF: positive
[07:04] <Broadcast> when i try to delete a folder
[07:04] <`DaGuy> gdb - will there be a need to change back to "us" at a later date ?
[07:04] <poje> Commander-Crowe: try uk. then, worked for me
[07:04] <nootrope> Commander-Crowe: mine worked after taking out us.
[07:04] <Qwell> garryF: It's a sparc though, partitioning a SAS drive, so I don't expect much out of it
[07:04] <poje> Mattchewie: most excellent ;d
[07:04] <Commander-Crowe> poje: ok but I think I'll need someone to hold my hand
[07:04] <limes24> Ubuntu is only the second type of linux I've used, after a disaster trying to get Debian running on this machine
[07:04] <Qwell> ...over serial console
[07:04] <garryF> Qwell Oh.
[07:04] <AAA> debian sucks to install for your first linux
[07:04] <limes24> hehe, you're telling me
[07:05] <bilss_> gbd: i have not installed anything yet but i can give you the name of the source packages and its deps if you want me to
[07:05] <AAA> debian is just horrible blan and simple
[07:05] <gdb> Broadcast: The permissions on a directory determine 3 things.  The ability of users to create files, to delete files, and to see what files are present.  The permissions on files themselves determine (likewise) 3 things, the permission to read a file, to modify a file, and to execute a file.
[07:05] <Sola6662> gdb i got that done now whats next?
[07:05] <poje> Commander-Crowe: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then change all the us.archive to uk.archive
[07:05] <limes24> any time I try linux, it usually ends in frustration, and I just go back to OS X.
[07:05] <VoX> are there any uha decompresion utils?
[07:05] <chemaja> debian is the best distro in the world unless you want to run the latest stable upstream software
[07:05] <gdb> er excuse me that's in error
[07:05] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[07:05] <Broadcast> gdb, what does that mean
[07:05] <Broadcast> i mean i changed my account to root
[07:05] <Qwell> create/edit, list, read
[07:05] <farous> AAA: debian horrible you are running ubuntu that is based on debian
[07:05] <gdb> Directory permissions determine the ability to see what files are present, to delete or create files, or to enter the directory at all.
[07:05] <AAA> limes24  you are installing ppc linux?
[07:05] <poje> chemaja: where did that come from?
[07:05] <Qwell> s/read/enter/..
[07:05] <chemaja> poje: <AAA> debian sucks to install for your first linux
[07:06] <AAA> farous  I love to be sarcastic :)
[07:06] <limes24> no, this is on x86 compaq hardware
[07:06] <gdb> Broadcast: Meaning if you want to move files (read: delete them from that directory) then you need write permissions to the directory the files are in.
[07:06] <farous> :)
[07:06] <poje> chemaja: yeah, just got there ;)
[07:06] <limes24> I don't want to mess up any of my Macs.. heh
[07:06] <Broadcast> oh
[07:06] <gdb> Sola6662: apt-get update
[07:06] <Broadcast> how do i do that
[07:06] <Broadcast> :D
[07:06] <farous> installing debian was no more harder then ubuntu here. only problem to know which modules you need to optimize your sys though
[07:07] <AAA> limes24  I haven't had a ppc in a couple of years, but yellowdog was, at that time, hands down the best ppc distro
[07:07] <poje> Ubuntu is debian, only...with updated software
[07:07] <gdb> Broadcast: Depending on the owner of the directory (if it's you, let's assume) you need to chmod o+w directory.  If it's someone else and you are in the directory group, it's chmod g+w, if you are neither the owner nor in the same group, it's chmod a+w.
[07:07] <poje> And a pretty face
[07:07] <bilss_> gbd: forget the value just the line for each source package i will put the source packages in a pastebin
[07:07] <kuzmaster> can anyone here please help me with a totally un-realated vmware problem?
[07:07] <AAA> poje  and where are the politics? waiting....waiting...
[07:08] <chemaja> poje: that's not exactly accurate -- there's a lot more to it :D but i'm sure you knew that and were just being "funny"
[07:08] <gdb> bilss_: I fail to see the connection between using source packages and needing to modify your environment.  Can you please say what you're trying to modify?
[07:08] <limes24> xubuntu on PPC might be nice on my G4 Mini..
[07:08] <poje> AAA, chemaja: yep, pretty much ;d
[07:08] <Commander-Crowe> "couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop"
[07:08] <Commander-Crowe> ah
[07:08] <Commander-Crowe> need help
[07:08] <bilss_> gbd: how can i modify soething thats not installed yet?
[07:09] <gdb> Commander-Crowe: In what context do you receive that error?
[07:09] <farous> Commander-Crowe: check your net connection try another mirror
[07:09] <gdb> bilss_: You're not expressing what you want to do clearly enough for me to help you.  I'm sorry.
[07:09] <ardchoille> !info xubuntu-desktop
[07:09] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.32 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[07:09] <Commander-Crowe> in terminal I type apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:09] <Commander-Crowe> oops
[07:09] <Commander-Crowe> with sudo
[07:09] <`DaGuy> yahoo IM just came back on
[07:09] <Commander-Crowe> sudo apt-get
[07:10] <gdb> Commander-Crowe: Have you run apt-get update first or at least recently?
[07:10] <rixth> Is a software RAID fileserver with 3 users likely to benefit from 64 bit?
[07:10] <IcemanV9> Commander-Crowe: it is in main repo and us servers are down
[07:10] <bilss_> gdb: i am sorry to hesr that as your pretty snowed under at the moment
[07:10] <Commander-Crowe> lol
[07:10] <Commander-Crowe> shoulda tried that
[07:10] <scipio_africanus> to whoever suggested earlier vimtutor thank you :)
[07:10] <AAA> w00 vimtutor ++
[07:10] <phargle> wow..  im impressed how easy vmware server installs on 6.06
[07:11] <henzo> hola
[07:11] <henzo> no puedo entrar a ubuntu-es
[07:11] <Broadcast> can i set default to all folders chmod a+w
[07:11] <gdb> I'm just plain impressed with everything related to 6.06.  To be fair, though, I only started using Ubuntu 2 weeks before 6.06 was released so my experiences with prior versions are very limited.
[07:11] <AAA> henzo  /join #ubuntu-es
[07:11] <tripppy> how do i repair/recover a ubuntu install?
[07:11] <henzo> I can't
[07:12] <henzo> I wrote / join #ubuntu-es
[07:12] <limes24> #ubuntu-es funciona para mi..
[07:12] <henzo> but without space after /
[07:12] <henzo> pues para mi no, me dice algo de que debo registrarme
[07:13] <Broadcast>  can i set default to all folders chmod a+w
[07:13] <AAA> (00:13) +|+ Irssi: #ubuntu-es: Total of 34 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 33 normal]
[07:14] <AAA> works for me are you on freenode?
[07:14] <henzo> limes24 me sale esto #ubuntu-es :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[07:14] <Xenguy> tripppy: if you have a CD, boot off it and try typing 'rescue' (no quotes) ?
[07:14] <fivre> is there any command line utility to monitor network traffic by application?
[07:14] <limes24> prueba otro nombre, posiblemente?
[07:15] <AAA> 00:14) -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-            Nickname: HenZo
[07:15] <AAA> (00:14) -NickServ(NickServ@services.)-          Registered: 4 years 27 weeks 5 days (4h 4m 4s) ago
[07:15] <AAA> henzo  you need another nick
[07:15] <henzo> lo intentare
[07:15] <henzo> OK
[07:15] <gdb> Broadcast: You can but it's an extremely extremely extremely bad thing to do.  You would edit /etc/profile and change the umask from 022 to 020.
[07:15] <farous> fivre: man netstat i always use netstat tup
[07:15] <omar> does anyone knows how to configure gdm so I can use transparent windows ?
[07:15] <hostel> Hey what is this chat thing is this part of the HI Hostel groip
[07:15] <bilss_> gdb: its dead simple i am going to install some packages  apt-get source name of package place them in src directory to you get me
[07:15] <gdb> Broadcast: That will default directories to rwxr-xrwx rather than rwxr-xr-x.
[07:15] <Munchkinguy> I know that I can get MIDI support from EasyUbuntu, but why doesn't it come with Ubuntu. Is it a non-free standard?
[07:16] <gdb> bilss_: What does that have to do with modifying your environment?
[07:16] <phunkalicious> am i wrong or can totem not play subtitles :(
[07:16] <Methodeux> I'm in need of some assistance.  I'm looking for some ways to visually enhance my desktop experirence,
[07:16] <omar> like what Methodeux ?
[07:16] <phargle> Methodeux: lsd
[07:16] <Methodeux> I tried XGL/Compiz..  couldn't get it to work, though I can't say that's specifically what I was looking for.
[07:17] <Methodeux> I'm looking for something more along the lines of a really sophisticated theme system.
[07:17] <AAA> mmmm lsd...
[07:17] <chunksoul> so
[07:17] <tripppy> how do i fix kernel panics on bootup?
[07:17] <deshantm_> !lsd
[07:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about lsd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:17] <bilss_> gdb: ok i understand in te past when i have installed source packages i have difficulty (once they are installed ) accessing them from the command line
[07:17] <deshantm_> what is lsd?
[07:17] <AAA> I know a thing or two about lsd :)
[07:18] <AAA> haha
[07:18] <phargle> :)
[07:18] <chunksoul> i forgot the password to a ubuntu
[07:18] <gdb> Munchkinguy: MIDI is encumbered by patents.
[07:18] <AAA> llol
[07:18] <chunksoul> any idea how to reset the root password
[07:18] <chunksoul> i tried booting into single mode
[07:18] <garryF> Linux System Dicovery - Detects the hardware.
[07:18] <chunksoul> didn't seem to work
[07:18] <bilss_> gdb: i am told you need to set $PATH
[07:18] <gdb> bilss_: You don't run source packages, you build them into binary packages and then install the binary packages.
[07:18] <Munchkinguy> gdb: is there a free midi format?
[07:18] <painkiler> hey guys
[07:18] <phunkalicious> can someone tell me why totem freezes when trying to load a subtitle file?
[07:18] <Xenguy> !root
[07:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:19] <Methodeux> GTK themes blow.  :|
[07:19] <omar> Have you checked Fluxbox Methodeus ?
[07:19] <omar> Methodeux : www.fluxbox.org
[07:19] <Methodeux> No, omar.  I've heard of it.  I'll go check it out.
[07:19] <painkiler> I just reinstalled windows on my dual boot box. I knew it would erase grub, but I don't know how to get grub back to normal
[07:19] <AAA> chunksoul  sudo passwd
[07:19] <bilss_> gdb:yes i mean build
[07:19] <AAA> chunksoul  type your user passwd then a new root
[07:19] <Methodeux> Whatever happened to Enlightenment?
[07:19] <painkiler> I am in the live cd atm
[07:19] <chunksoul> i can't remember any password to the machine