[04:13] <dli> maco, I'm chinese, but this is a ubuntu channel :(
[04:13] <adrock2> ionno 30s... until you seem something freeze up
[04:13] <maco> yagoo: hmm you're reminding me i havent studied any african languages, just romance, slavic, asian, and visual...
[04:13] <adrock2> er, see
[04:14] <Basic_binary> would anybody know what theme is being used in this screenshot? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Glade_Screenshot_2.png
[04:14] <Loshki> fishscene: #vsftpd appears to exist. How lucky is that?
[04:14] <adrock2> try to capture vmstat output while it's acting screwy
[04:14] <realeyes> hey guys
[04:14] <adrock2> and you looked at the kernel messages with dmesg, yes?
[04:14] <realeyes> i need help with my grub screen
[04:14] <fishscene> aha! I tried vsftp earlier... rofl. Thanks Loshki. :D
[04:14] <dli> radhruin, like updatedb, trackerd, or a busy server
[04:14] <realeyes> it wont show ver. 10.10 because i upgraded w/o a CD
[04:15] <realeyes> do I need to re-install from live CD?
[04:15] <yagoo> maco, dli for yuo two -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto lol
[04:15] <yagoo> maco, dli neutrality please! hahaha
[04:15] <maco> yagoo: not enough people speak it. being able to speak many languages seems more useful
[04:15] <dli> yagoo, no interest in that, already speaking the language of the most popular choice, no reason the switch to one of the least
[04:16] <yagoo> maco, actually impressively mentioned in wiki is alot speak it.. it is used internationally with certain organizations
[04:16] <earthshade> I give up ubuntu, you win
[04:16] <radhruin> dli: I have trackerd disabled, but top does not show anything taking large amounts of cpu.
[04:16] <sakekasi> is there an easy way to list all the dependencies of a metapackage recursively?
[04:16] <blackshirt> apt-cache depends
[04:16] <sakekasi> thanks blackshirt
[04:17] <blackshirt> sakekasi: you're welcome
[04:17] <earthshade> Does wubi use 10.10?
[04:17] <D3luSi0n4L> Hey all
[04:17] <D3luSi0n4L> can someone help me real quick
[04:17] <dli> radhruin, get some benchmarking tools, try the difference between normal login, and single user
[04:17] <sakekasi> is there any way to change that into a script to remove all said depends blackshirt?
[04:17] <earthshade> Ubuntu is destroying my life
[04:17] <yagoo> fishscene, sftp is so much easier.. but somewhat slower of course.. (just port forwarding with NAT router simply works)
[04:17] <blackshirt> earthsade: are you using wubi to dual booting linux and windows ??
[04:18] <earthshade> blackshirt: Mhm
[04:18] <D3luSi0n4L> I want to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my hp laptop but I don't wanna get rid of my restore partition. So I select specific partition but i don't know what i should choose to format it to?
[04:18] <D3luSi0n4L> it gives me a long list
[04:18] <radhruin> adrock2: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fGkxXYw4. Right around when the headers were printed a second time, pidgin froze up.
[04:18] <D3luSi0n4L> ntfs, FAT32 Journal, or something, etc etc
[04:18] <fishscene> yagoo, would that be ssh FTP?
[04:18] <blackshirt> earthsade: i wouldn't recommend that  ...
[04:19]  * sakekasi wants to install ubuntu netbook but also easily remove it.
[04:19] <yagoo> fishscene, sftp runs under ssh.. yeah.. so by default its port 22
[04:19] <adrock2> radhruin: anything in dmesg output?
[04:19] <D3luSi0n4L> anyone please?
[04:19] <dli> D3luSi0n4L, you can resize your existing partition, shrink the one with most free space
[04:19] <circlez> D3luSi0n4L: don't format your recovery partition.  Format the partition you want ubuntu on to ext4
[04:19] <D3luSi0n4L> ya but how during installation?
[04:19] <blackshirt> sakekasi: you mean, convert output to script ??
[04:19] <D3luSi0n4L> if i choose "Select Partition"
[04:19] <fishscene> yagoo: If it will work with a regular ftp client, then I'll look into it
[04:19] <D3luSi0n4L> it gives me a screen with my 3 partitions
[04:19] <D3luSi0n4L> one my primary windows one
[04:20] <D3luSi0n4L> other 2 are HP parittions
[04:20] <sakekasi> blackshirt: I want to install ubuntu-netbook but have a command that I can copy-paste into terminal to remove the whole thing with all dependencies.
[04:20] <D3luSi0n4L> when I double click the primary windows one
[04:20] <D3luSi0n4L> i have to choose which format I want it?
[04:20] <radhruin> adrock2: /var/log/dmesg or someplace else?
[04:20] <D3luSi0n4L> or something
[04:20] <bullgard4> yagoo, dli, CaneToad My bug seemed to be caused by a huge distant-upgrade in combination with a hard-disk error. --  Thank you for commenting.
[04:20] <D3luSi0n4L> it won't let me choose " format partition" unless I choose one from the list
[04:20] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, you want ubuntu natively on the HD? then do this- 1-backup data 2-chkdsk/defrag from within windows 3-use ubuntu installer&CustomPartition--(3: resize the Fat or ntfs partition, then make the ext3 or ext4 partition etc)
[04:20] <adrock2> radhruin: just type dmesg, it'll spit out the most recent messages
[04:20] <radhruin> mm k
[04:21] <circlez> dmesg
[04:21] <D3luSi0n4L> woah im lost, sorry yagoo im new to this disk crap
[04:21] <D3luSi0n4L> Personal Message me?
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: the partition you make will need to be extended, as you can ONLY have 4 primary partitions on a disk
[04:21] <adrock2> radhruin: also, have a gander at /var/log/messages and look for where the driver for the drive spits out messages.  it might be falling back to some weird slow/compatibility mode
[04:21] <yagoo> fishscene, you need an sftp client.. btw if u dont want users to having to install sftp clients.. u can simply use a java-sshsftp front end from a webbrowser..
[04:22] <D3luSi0n4L> Ok
[04:22]  * sakekasi was afk until now
[04:22] <radhruin> adrock2: Checked that already, it's good.
[04:22] <rodolfo> hi, do you know what package do i need to use a sony camera?
[04:22] <radhruin> adrock2: I tailed /var/log/dmesg, found nothing, but typing dmesg shows recent messages that seem relevant. Give me a second.
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: you can then make logical partitions on the extended partition. I assume the others are primary
[04:22] <yagoo> fishscene, konqueror, nautilus and filezilla support sftp
[04:22] <fishscene> ah. excellent
[04:22] <ndroftheline> grub2 makes it effin impossible to change my framebuffer resolution. anybody have a fix?
[04:22] <D3luSi0n4L> so i should make another partition in windows, install ubuntu to that partition, then format the windows partition from linux, then merge my linux and formely windows now empty partitions together?
[04:22] <adrock2> radhruin: if you're having disk problems, the file may lag the message buffer that is printed by dmesg
[04:23] <circlez> D3luSi0n4L: no
[04:23] <radhruin> adrock2: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vzqPbfGv
[04:23] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, just do the first two steps at least.. the #2 i mention will speed up any resize on the ntfs or fat partition (ntfs or fat filesystems is used by windows)(ext3 or ext4 is used by linux(
[04:23] <RoC_MasterMind> anybody else playing with btrfs and get "btrfs: unable to remove the only writeable device" in their kernel log when removing a drive from a multi-drive btrfs?
[04:23] <dli> D3luSi0n4L, if you don't want to keep windows, choose to format the windows partition, otherwise, shrink it
[04:23] <D3luSi0n4L> ahh ok
[04:23] <adrock2> radhruin: yeah, that's bad.
[04:23] <D3luSi0n4L> I wanna get rid of windows
[04:24] <radhruin> adrock2: looks like a hardware problem eh? I'll try reseating the cable but otherwise... :(
[04:24] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, yah but back it up .. if the resize gets screwed up u can lose alot of data
[04:24] <D3luSi0n4L> i dont have any data
[04:24] <blackshirt> sakekashi: just purging, you will remove dependencies to
[04:24] <adrock2> radhruin: reseat the cable, maybe try a different cable or different port.
[04:24] <dli> RoC_MasterMind, sometimes, you have to add a new one before you can remove
[04:24] <radhruin> adrock2: I bet it's the cable. No way it could be this bad but SMART isn't complaining...
[04:24] <blackshirt> sakekashi: just purging, you will remove dependencies too
[04:24] <D3luSi0n4L> Its a brand new laptop
[04:24] <D3luSi0n4L> absolutely no data
[04:24] <RoC_MasterMind> dli, but....I have plenty of free space!
[04:24] <circlez> D3luSi0n4L: Than just delete the windows part.  Keep the two back up ones incase Linux doesn't work out for you.
[04:24] <D3luSi0n4L> ok but how do i got about deleting the windows part?
[04:25] <dli> RoC_MasterMind, try to add a new one and try again still
[04:25] <radhruin> adrock2: great ideas. Thank you for your help! I learned something new: just type dmesg instead of tailing the log :) I owe you a beer!
[04:25] <RoC_MasterMind> doh
[04:25] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, nah keep the windows part.. if u need an emergency access for anything (eg: bios upgrade or need a network working)
[04:25] <sakekasi> how do I change the default login session for ubuntu?
[04:25] <D3luSi0n4L> yagoo
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: if you press CTRL+ALT+T you can run:  sudo fdisk -l   and show the partition names, what are they called
[04:25] <adrock2> radhruin: good luck!
[04:25] <D3luSi0n4L> I'm installing linux for a couple of days then im going back t owindows with a fresh start
[04:25] <D3luSi0n4L> Action I'm in windows right now
[04:25] <blackshirt> sakekashi: on option screen at login window
[04:25] <D3luSi0n4L> my wifi doesn't work in Linux without drivers
[04:26] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, i know that's good.. but you'll learn how to fix the boot loaders too :p
[04:26] <sakekasi> blackshirt ok thanks
[04:26] <sosaited> Where can I find latest release of Glib for Lucid?
[04:26] <D3luSi0n4L> ..?
[04:26] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, nmind :)...
[04:26] <madav> can someone please tell, is there any application in the ubuntu which uses the phonet protocol?
[04:26] <rodolfo> hi, do anyone know what package do i need to use a sony camera?
[04:27] <D3luSi0n4L> ok look so i click "choose partition"
[04:27] <yagoo> madav, never heard of that.. wtf is that?
[04:27] <D3luSi0n4L> i double click it
[04:27] <D3luSi0n4L> then it gives me a new windows "Edit Partition"
[04:27] <zenmower> That worked great
[04:27] <dli> rodolfo, I suggestion shotwell from gnome
[04:27] <zenmower> Thanks
[04:27] <D3luSi0n4L> in their what format should i choose? by default its set to "do nothing" or something similar
[04:27] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, how powerful is that laptop btw? (if it's powerful enough.. u can easily abuse virtualbox or vmware)
[04:27] <rodolfo> yes
[04:28] <rodolfo> but there is an error when i connect the camera
[04:28] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, or on any other machine pwoerful enough (toying around with vbox is very safe)
[04:28] <D3luSi0n4L> yagoo I'm sending the laptop in for repairs and the windows I'm running is not legit I just want Linux on and then im gonna buy windows when it gets back
[04:28] <madav> yagoo, i dono about wtf, phonet is the protocol developed by the nokia, the source can be found in the net/phonet
[04:28] <D3luSi0n4L> Ive used linux before
[04:28] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, lol.. you're ditiching linux in 3-4 days .. why install it then?
[04:28] <D3luSi0n4L> and this laptop is fine Dualcore, 4gb ram, 17.3" led screen etc etc
[04:29] <D3luSi0n4L> well if the time comes and I'm used to it im gonna reinstall a legit copy of windows
[04:29] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, lol
[04:29] <D3luSi0n4L> I also have linux on my old laptop
[04:29] <D3luSi0n4L> but that old laptop is slow as bawls
[04:29] <D3luSi0n4L> 512mb ram, single core, etc
[04:29] <yagoo> anyone wants to help D3luSi0n4L ditch his linux for windows in 3-4 days? be my guest hehehe
[04:29] <D3luSi0n4L> yagoo
[04:29] <D3luSi0n4L> I'm going to keep it but thats another day
[04:29] <circlez> D3luSi0n4L: Damn Small Linux will turn the old laptop into something useable.
[04:29] <madav> yagoo, i wanted to study how that protocol works, what is the best way to do that, can you please help
[04:30] <D3luSi0n4L> circlez: lol I know you should of seen XP on it =)
[04:30] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, actually u can make a reserve partition for the windows...
[04:30] <D3luSi0n4L> .....
[04:30] <yagoo> nmind..
[04:30] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, your laptop is in repairs.. ok
[04:30] <D3luSi0n4L> ??
[04:30] <D3luSi0n4L> ok this is what i wanna do
[04:30] <D3luSi0n4L> lemme clarify just incase anyones confused
[04:31] <D3luSi0n4L> Im on my new laptop I want to boot into linux from the disk, then choose the primary partition, format this one partition and install linux on this one partition
[04:31] <D3luSi0n4L> I dont wanna touch the other partitions
[04:31] <carlos> Hola ubuntureros
[04:31] <circlez> greetings
[04:32] <sosaited> D3luSi0n4L: I hope you mean a LiveCD ?
[04:32] <D3luSi0n4L> when i goto choose my partition though, with windows on it it won't let me format it without choosing a format
[04:32] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, how many partitions are there again?
[04:32] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, you'll need a swap partition too
[04:32] <D3luSi0n4L> ??
[04:32] <D3luSi0n4L> wtf I never knew this was sooo damn complicated
[04:32] <circlez> D3luSi0n4L: ext3.  Don't worry about swap for the few days
[04:32] <circlez> D3luSi0n4L: use ext3
[04:32] <D3luSi0n4L> ok ty circlez
[04:32] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, minimal # partitions for linux would be two. One for "/" and the other for memory-swap..
[04:32] <sosaited> D3luSi0n4L: ext3 or ext4 is fine
[04:32] <D3luSi0n4L> that was all I need lol
[04:33] <D3luSi0n4L> is there a difference sosaited ?
[04:33] <D3luSi0n4L> if it makes a difference its a 320gb 7200rpm drive
[04:33] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, yeah, u can choose the default install and have the whole HD wiped out.. it'll do the swap partition automatically..
[04:33] <circlez> yagoo: Does ubuntu require a swap?  I've used other distros without a swap.
[04:33] <D3luSi0n4L> i mean between ext3 & 4
[04:33] <sosaited> D3luSi0n4L: Yeah a few. Like ext4 supports File Creation timestamps .. ext3 doesn't.
[04:33] <D3luSi0n4L> ok so which should I do?
[04:33] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, i believe it chooses ext4 .. but dont worry about that...
[04:33] <D3luSi0n4L> or would you recommend?
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: ext4 is default, i'd go for that
[04:34] <D3luSi0n4L> ok ty
[04:34] <yagoo> D3luSi0n4L, doesnt really matter.. ext4 is made for futuristic =>1TB drives..
[04:34] <sosaited> D3luSi0n4L: If this is your first time with Ubuntu BUT you have a laptop with no problems of power failures or improper shutdowns, ext4
[04:34] <D3luSi0n4L> ill be back if this works!
[04:35] <circlez> Hello #ubuntu.  How do I give additional users sudo powers?
[04:35] <sosaited> D3luSi0n4L: Format the primary partition, and then  create an ext4 root ( / ) on it, and a smaller (2.5x or more your RAM) Swap one
[04:35] <shucheng> hi all
[04:35] <ilovefairuz1> circlez: sudo EDITOR=nano visudo
[04:35] <blackshirt> sosaited: you can add it to the admin user..
[04:36] <blakkheim> lol EDITOR=nano
[04:36] <bastid_raZor> circlez: add them to the admin groups .... in a terminal type: sudo adduser username admin    ..change username to the user you want with sudo
[04:36] <sosaited> So, where do I get latest releases of Glib then?
[04:36] <circlez> bastid_raZor: Can the adduser command be used even when it is not a new user?
[04:36] <sosaited> for Lucid
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> circlez: yes
[04:37] <ilovefairuz1> sosaited: what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:37] <sosaited> circlez: You are just adding the user in the admin group in this case
[04:37] <circlez> bastid_raZor: can't tell you how happy I am to hear this quick fix.
[04:37] <rodolfo> hi do you know if i need a package to mount sony cameras?
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> circlez: you're welcome.
[04:38] <sosaited> ilovefairuz1: I have been hitting my head with Tracker trying to index my 1.9TB of data, but for one reason or another I cant seem to succeed. Now I have found out that the reason it is slow when resuming crawling after a restart is because It cant enable "Journal tracking" because Glib version I have doesn't support it
[04:39] <dli> rodolfo, some cameras allow mass storage mode, while some don't
[04:39] <rodolfo> i know
[04:39] <sosaited> ilovefairuz1: I have tracker 0.9.27. Compiled it.
[04:39] <rodolfo> but ive got an error
[04:39] <dli> rodolfo, shotwell, digikam are the easiest way
[04:40] <ilovefairuz1> sosaited: and what version of glib supports such journal tracking?
[04:40] <sosaited> ilovefairuz1: I think >2.14
[04:41] <rodolfo> it says Could not open the device (null) from (null)
[04:41] <kadgar> Hi, I installed ubuntu 10.10 on an external hard drive using macbook pro. I used super grub2 disk and booted in, for some reason I have to hold down enter when I select use usb *experimental and then it shows the ubuntu install. However, it freezes when I see the ubuntu install so I can't boot in :( anyone have any ideas???
[04:41] <rodolfo> and it is on mass storage mode
[04:41] <dli> rodolfo, is your camera on and with computer mode
[04:41] <rodolfo> yes
[04:42] <circlez> kadgar: esata or usb2.0?
[04:42] <dli> rodolfo, any file manager should read it then, try: nautilus --no-desktop
[04:42] <kadgar> usb 2.0
[04:42] <rodolfo> ok
[04:42] <kwamaking> anyone have any problems with internal speakers and headphones simultaneously playing audio
[04:43] <circlez> kadgar: no ideas
[04:43] <dli> kwamaking, it may not be possible due to hardware
[04:43] <sosaited> ilovefairuz: Or maybe it is >2.4 :s . I am trying to find out on #tracker at gimpnet. But no one is replying there for now.
[04:44] <kwamaking> dli i've got a strange jack, it doesn't disable the internal speakers when i insert the headphones
[04:44] <rodolfo> it says ** (nautilus:5674): WARNING **: Failed to get the current CK session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.GeneralError: Unable to lookup session information for process '5674'
[04:44] <kadgar> Hmm, well its kinda weird too because if I press use usb experimental and press enter it freezes right away but when I hold on enter it gets to screen where it shows available oses and then freezes
[04:44] <kwamaking> it does in windows, and earlier versions of ubuntu
[04:44] <kwamaking> however it doesn't in 10.10
[04:44] <rodolfo> (nautilus:5674): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion `value != NULL' failed
[04:44] <kwamaking> been booting into an old kernal just to play music :(
[04:45] <dli> rodolfo, if it's noisy, try thunar
[04:45] <rodolfo> ok
[04:45] <magn3tic> what impact is there to me putting grub on a drive other than /dev/sda?
[04:45] <kadgar> is there something besides super grub2 disk i could use to boot into external drive on a mac book pro?
[04:45] <magn3tic> I'm installing ubuntu to /dev/sdc so is it safe to put grub there? Will my computer know to look there?
[04:46] <xidica> magn3tic, as long as you tell the bios to look there to boot it should be fine
[04:46] <dli> magn3tic, you may choose which disk to boot in bios
[04:46] <kwamaking> any suggestions dli ?
[04:46] <yagoo> bye and be nice :)
[04:46] <circlez> kadgar: look into lilo
[04:46] <dli> kwamaking, no idea :(maybe, pulseaudio knows better
[04:46] <magn3tic> xidica: dli: do most bioses allow you to choose the drive?
[04:46] <Ninja> anyone know of a linux game similar to rock band?
[04:47] <magn3tic> I guess I really don't care about NTLDR that much, I should just blow it away.
[04:47] <Ninja> or guitar hero
[04:47] <dli> magn3tic, usually, they allow you to decide the order for booting
[04:47] <xidica> magn3tic, certainly...just go to the boot options and make sure USB boot is enabled and set the order you want
[04:47] <circlez> Ninja: frets of fire is Linux, if I remember correctly (or frets on fire, something like that)
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Ninja: fretsonfire
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> !info fretsonfire
[04:48] <Ninja> con it do drums?  (I was thinking about making my own usb drum controller from scratch)
[04:48] <ilovefairuz> sosaited: the one that ships with maverick is 2.26
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Ninja: there are songs for it on the frets on fire forum as well as numerous other sites etc
[04:48] <ilovefairuz> sosaited: there's no 2.4
[04:48] <Carl_> hello everyone
[04:48] <xidica> Hi Carl_
[04:49] <blackshirt> hello Carl_
[04:49] <sosaited> ilovefairuz: I found source of 2.27. I am on Lucid. Gonna try it. Do you know any tracker developer that is on Ubuntu channel at the moment:
[04:49] <ilovefairuz> sosaited: no
[04:49] <secoif> Hey, how much importance does everyone place on keeping server software up to date (e.g. apt-get upgrade)
[04:49] <sosaited> ilovefairuz: how can I see which Glib version I currently have?
[04:49] <CaneToad> does anybody know where ALT-PrintScreen has gone in Maverick?  Doesn't work for me.
[04:50] <ilovefairuz> secoif: that's very important, particularly for security updates
[04:50] <secoif> ilovefairuz: that's what I thought
[04:50] <secoif> how often do you update?
[04:50] <xidica> secoif, Very important IMHO...especially if you have anything public accessible
[04:50] <ilovefairuz> sosaited: apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0
[04:50] <blackshirt> secoif: i think, if your system on critical system and you are paranoid people, you must allways up to date
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Ninja: there are mods for it so you can make it look as you wish, if you grab a PS3 usb rock band guitar you can use it with linux with zero config
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: what does it do?
[04:51] <CaneToad> ActionParsnip: takes a screenshot of your current window
[04:51] <CaneToad> ActionParsnip: worked fine in 10.04
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/metacity/+bug/642792
[04:52] <linuxbie> hello every1
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> CaneToad: seems it needs setting to something then setting back and it works
[04:52] <sosaited> ilovefairuz: libglib2.0-dev Installed version 2.24.1
[04:52] <sosaited> Hehe
[04:52] <blackshirt> ActionParsnip: do you have experionce on access split between two different internet connection ?? i need help
[04:54] <linuxbie> i need help to reverse im ip my provider doesnt want to reverse my ip
[04:54] <linuxbie> they wont do it
[04:54] <linuxbie> any help with this
[04:55] <mitchs> Can I get some Help?
[04:55] <ilovefairuz> linuxbie: what do you mean by reverse it? to change it?
[04:55] <ilovefairuz> !details | mitchs
[04:55] <linuxbie> yap like i can make a vhost ip
[04:55] <mitchs> I didnt want to but in i lovefairuz
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: none, sorry
[04:55] <rww> linuxbie: no, the provider of the IP address needs to do that. if they won't do it, you can't.
[04:55] <mitchs> Im having a problem with ark,    its not unpacking anything..
[04:56] <mitchs> seems to hang,   after a reboot,  still hangs
[04:56] <lk> main $1 $2 $3 2> /dev/null exit 1   is this right?
[04:56] <blackshirt> ActionParsnip: do you know anyone here who can help me about that ??
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> mitchs: launch it from a konsole and the output may be useful
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: ##networking maybe
[04:56] <maxagaz> how to install eclipse for android on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[04:56] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: what's the file extension of the archive you're tying to unpack ?
[04:56] <linuxbie> what is the reason they wont do it for u reversing your ip is there any security issue?
[04:56] <xidica> mitchs, you should also strace the process as well
[04:57] <blackshirt> ActionParsnip; ok..i will join later
[04:57] <mitchs> xidica,    strace?
[04:57] <ilovefairuz> maxagaz: ask in #android
[04:57] <rww> linuxbie: ask them...
[04:57] <mitchs> i tried to unpack it from konsole actionparsnip
[04:57] <xidica> mitchs, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> mitchs: no, launch ark from the konsole and use it, not use konsole and CLI to unpack
[04:58] <linuxbie> well im i subscribe or upgrade my connection to a business type they will
[04:58] <linuxbie> with residential connection they wont do it
[04:58] <mitchs> im sorry,  didnt use ark form the konsole,  i did   tar jx firefox-3.6.12.tar.bz2 -C $HOME
[04:58] <linuxbie> so sad
[04:58] <linuxbie> :(
[04:59] <mitchs> does not unpack anythign
[04:59] <mitchs> when i open the file with ark,  it showes all the files on my system, not the files in the package..
[04:59] <linuxbie> they use mac addressing
[05:00] <blackshirt> mitchs: maybe problem with your tar.gz packages, it was corrupted maybe ??
[05:00] <mitchs> blackshirt,   no i have two seperate packages that wont unpack,   they hang.
[05:00] <laelfrog> is there a channel for mactel stuff?
[05:00] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: what's the output of the tar command?
[05:00] <mitchs> ilovefairuz,  there was no output
[05:01] <mitchs> after almost 2 hours
[05:01] <mitchs> both packages
[05:01] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: tar xvf firefox-3.6.12.tar.bz2
[05:01] <blackshirt> mitchs: are you sure ?? successfully try it with tar ??
[05:01] <mitchs> ilovefairuz,   let me try that cmd
[05:01] <palomer> hello, I'm trying to create a patch using diff -crwB clean-trunk clean-gadts > temp.patch
[05:01] <palomer> but that patch doesn't work
[05:01] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: j packes the file NOT unpack it
[05:02] <mitchs> lol then the mozilla instructions on there webpage got it wrong.
[05:02] <mitchs> ilovefairuz,  the command works
[05:03] <mitchs> , but still my ark does not unpack,  what a coincidence
[05:03] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: use xvf regardless of the suffix after .tar
[05:04] <mitchs> i only did it becase that was the firefox mozilla instructions from their website
[05:04]  * Balsaq quietly enters the peaceful digital rainforest known as...Ubuntu!
[05:04] <mitchs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion/MozillaBuilds   check it out
[05:05] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: you missed the f
[05:06] <mitchs> damit, i would have felt a whole lot better if they messed it up,  i disregard your last statement ilovefairuz
[05:06] <beinghuman> okay so I installed ubuntu 10.10
[05:06] <beinghuman> now where is the on screen keyboard?
[05:07] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: in a terminal type: man tar
[05:07] <mitchs> shut up with your manuels,   making me look bad.      lol
[05:08] <TiK> ilove if its .gz yo use tar -zxvf
[05:08] <c0nv1ct> beinghuman, try installing gok
[05:08] <D3luSi0n4L> hey all
[05:08] <D3luSi0n4L> so i got ubuntu installed
[05:08] <D3luSi0n4L> but two things
[05:08] <TiK> if it .bz2 you use -qxvf i think
[05:09] <TiK> i forget
[05:09] <D3luSi0n4L> the wireless isnt working , theres a button next to the power and its orange which means off and rnadomly it will turn blue
[05:09] <mitchs> tik  in a terminal type,    man tar
[05:09] <D3luSi0n4L> the laptop is a HP G71
[05:09] <c0nv1ct> TiK, it is no longer necessary to specify that, and it would be j for bz2
[05:09] <D3luSi0n4L> anyone know what i should do?
[05:09] <beinghuman> I got it
[05:09] <beinghuman> nevermind, thanks though
[05:09] <ilovefairuz> TiK: and -z and the -j are NOT necessary to extract a file, xvf works just fine
[05:09] <TiK> ineresting :P
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: use: sudo lshw -C network   and use the product line to find guides
[05:10] <TiK> interesting :P
[05:10] <mitchs> what version of ubunto are you runnint?
[05:10] <mitchs> running
[05:10] <D3luSi0n4L> product line?
[05:10] <mitchs> yes
[05:10] <ilovefairuz> !who | mitchs D3luSi0n4L
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: run the command and you'll see
[05:11] <D3luSi0n4L> ok ty
[05:11] <mitchs> !who | ilovefairuz
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: please tye the name of whom you are addressing, you can use tab to autocomplete nicks
[05:11] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: ok will do, sorry!
[05:11] <mitchs> Floodbot, lol!
[05:11] <reeniginEesreveR> i have installed ubuntu 10.10. It doesn't have g++ 4.1 but i need it. How can i install it?
[05:12] <histo>
[05:12] <D3luSi0n4L> Ok i did the command anyone know what to do from here?
[05:12] <mitchs> ActionParsnip,   what you mean you can use tab to autocomplete nicks?
[05:13] <c0nv1ct> reeniginEesreveR, try installing build-essential
[05:13] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: type first few letters and press tab
[05:13] <lk> how to judge a file is exist or not. is " if [ -e $file ] " ok?
[05:13] <ilovefairuz> mitchs: same for terminal filenames
[05:13] <reeniginEesreveR> c0nv1ct, wouldn't that stil install the latest version of g++ (i.e 4.4) ?
[05:13] <mitchs> ilovefairuz,  OH SNAP!
[05:13] <Cairo> is it possible to edit.flv's in PiTiVi
[05:13] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: i did, what now?
[05:13] <c0nv1ct> reeniginEesreveR, yes, why do you need 4.1 specifically
[05:13] <ilovefairuz> reeniginEesreveR: looks like the g++ 4.1 was last packaged for lucid
[05:14] <sosaited> ilovefairuz: Do you have some experience in compiling gtk/glib?
[05:14] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: it gave me a bunch of info, thats it
[05:14] <ilovefairuz> sosaited: ask your question and if anyone knows, they will answer
[05:14] <sosaited> D3luSi0n4L: Did you install it?
[05:14] <D3luSi0n4L> install it?
[05:14] <mitchs> D3luSi0n4L,   start-network
[05:14] <D3luSi0n4L> it just listed a bunch of info and thats it
[05:14] <mitchs> D3luSi0n4L,  try that command
[05:15] <D3luSi0n4L> command not found
[05:15] <D3luSi0n4L> mitchs: command not found*
[05:15] <New0> #ubuntu-il
[05:15] <New0> join #ubuntu-il
[05:15] <sosaited> I am trying to install glib 2.27.2 and in the Install file it asks to first remove glib.h and gmodule.h before make install. But those files in my case were in other directories than specific in the Install file (Source folder/glib and Source folder/gmodule) Should I still remove them?
[05:15] <ilovefairuz> New0: /join
[05:15] <reeniginEesreveR> ilovefairuz, yes but anyway i could install on maverick?
[05:15] <D3luSi0n4L> anything else?
[05:15] <lk> service network restart
[05:15] <secoif> ilovefairuz xidica how often do you update production servers and how do you minimise risk? Does your business have a policy on this?
[05:16] <D3luSi0n4L> it seems drivers are installed its jut not turned on and the buttons not working, it does work though
[05:16] <New0> tnx man :)
[05:16] <mitchs> new0 used to bash
[05:16] <D3luSi0n4L> lk: unrecognized service
[05:16] <sosaited> D3luSi0n4L: Weren't you going to format your partition and install Ubuntu?
[05:16] <D3luSi0n4L> i did
[05:16] <D3luSi0n4L> im on linux
[05:16] <sosaited> Good
[05:16] <New0> mitchs ?
[05:16] <mitchs> D3luSi0n4L,  are you running 10.10?
[05:16] <D3luSi0n4L> =P
[05:16] <D3luSi0n4L> mitchs: yes
[05:17] <New0> mitchs what do u mean ? used to bash /
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: read the info, the product line, as I said before, will help yuo find guides
[05:17] <New0> * ?
[05:17] <metaphaze> I would like to aplogize in the public chan for my behavior last evening. I had a few to many drinks, and took out my frustration on the channel.
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> metaphaze: no worries dude, glad you are back :()
[05:17] <Neuroneutron> :)
[05:18] <metaphaze> Thank's ActionParsnip
[05:18] <mitchs> New0,  sorry wrong name
[05:18] <New0> ok
[05:18] <New0> :)
[05:18] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: i did and i dont see anything
[05:18] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: i see driver=ath9k driverversion=2.6.35-22-generic
[05:18] <Neuroneutron> Hello everybody! :). Glad to meet you all!
[05:18] <mitchs> D3luSi0n4L,  do you have wicd?
[05:18] <lk> how to judge a file is exist or not in the bash shell
[05:19] <New0> Q: how many time (Days) take to master linux (or hours) ?
[05:19] <Exploiter> New0: a lifetime is not enough
[05:19] <D3luSi0n4L> mitchs: not sure? what is that?
[05:19] <ilovefairuz> reeniginEesreveR: find a ppa that packages it
[05:20] <metaphaze> New0, May I suggest "Using Linux" by QUE?
[05:20] <reeniginEesreveR> errr... engligh plz?
[05:20] <circlez> New0: I've been using vim for the last two years and I'm still a vim noob.
[05:20] <New0> what is QUE ?
[05:20] <metaphaze> QUE is a publisher
[05:20] <ilovefairuz> reeniginEesreveR: or download the gcc, gcc-base and libstdc++ packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/g++-4.1 and install using gdebi
[05:20] <New0> like gnome ?
[05:20] <D3luSi0n4L> whats wicd?
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: is the wireless USB?
[05:21] <ilovefairuz> !ppa > reeniginEesreveR
[05:21] <D3luSi0n4L> no
[05:21] <metaphaze> New0, no QUE is a publisher, that publishes books.
[05:21] <reeniginEesreveR> thanks :)
[05:21] <metaphaze> It is great for someone trying to learn the actual "Linux system"
[05:21] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: this is the product - "AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)"
[05:21] <metaphaze> if you would like I could suggest more?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: ok then websearch that to find guides
[05:22] <New0> ok i will google for QUE
[05:22] <metaphaze> New0, I don't know if you can find this anymore, its an oldie, but a goldy
[05:23] <Nikkk> can someone help me with my problem : functions keys for brightness in Lenovo Y450 are working...How do i fix it ? :(
[05:23] <Nikkk> not*
[05:23] <Cairo> is there any way to edit FLV files?
[05:23] <metaphaze> The UNIX Programming Environment published by Prentice-Hall
[05:23] <Cairo> or string them together
[05:23] <New0> only know ubuntu for a month and keep count ! dunno what QUE is ?
[05:23] <metaphaze> fantastic information in that volume
[05:23] <New0> distro ?
[05:23] <bazhang> !ot | metaphaze New0
[05:24] <bazhang> Cairo, you can re-encode them as mp4, for example
[05:24] <New0> bazhang tnx
[05:24] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: hey will you help me please
[05:25] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: i found the drivers and a link but i dont get how to follow it
[05:25] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
[05:25] <metaphaze> New0, you might find this link useful
[05:25] <metaphaze> New0, http://www.linux.org/books/FEATURE_0789716232.html
[05:25] <bazhang> metaphaze, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Atheros/AR9285
[05:27] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: awesome, which kernel should I choose from the download site?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: the kernel which wil come down with updates
[05:27] <magik-> When first installing ubuntu i see a flash/logo screen and then it drops to the terminal.. basically: can not mount /dev/loop0 (Busy Box v1.15.3
[05:27] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: im a little confused, should i just download the latest? Theres like 4 then 1 RC
[05:27] <magik-> there isn't any solutions on the forums
[05:28] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: those aren't kernels
[05:29] <New0> metaphaze someone also give me that:
[05:29] <New0> http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[05:29] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: my bad man, like i said im new to this, i mean release
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: grab the one with the highest version number
[05:29] <Nikkk> Hello ! can someone help me with my problem i'm encountering ??? I've installed ubuntu 10.04 recently, the function keys for altering brightness in Lenovo Y450 are not working...How do i fix it ? :(
[05:29] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: ok but not the RC correct?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: you should keep the source after too as you will need to recompile after each new kernel
[05:29] <New0> but the Q: how much time can it be done ?
[05:30] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: umm source? you mean the link to the site?
[05:30] <phirestalker> ok what is with bug buddy, I know I have installed all the dbg packages I can find and it still says it can't gather enough information????
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> D3luSi0n4L: the thing you download from the site is the source code for your wireless driver, it is going to be compiled against your kernel, so when you get another it will need redoing
[05:31] <D3luSi0n4L> ok
[05:32] <phirestalker> I guess the gnome bug system is just not as advanced as the kde bug system as the kde one will give you all the details of the errors so you can see what it couldn't find in symbols and install them, there is no details button for bug "buddy"
[05:32] <phirestalker> what a dark day when kde is better than gnome
[05:32] <quibbler> Nikkk-> have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594551
[05:32] <Balsaq> kde is better? i didnt know that?
[05:32] <Cairo> thanks
[05:33] <phirestalker> kde is better when programs who try to do too much ahem... Evolution crash and gnome can't give you the details you need
[05:33] <Balsaq> oh great
[05:34] <Balsaq> i just added ubuntu to 4 of my gd computers
[05:34] <Balsaq> i always thought gnome was king int he world of linux
[05:35] <phirestalker> I'll tell you what user friendly is... NOT having to install separate packages for debugging symbols, I mean you don't see windows asking for that when reporting crashes
[05:35] <snuxoll> phirestalker: why waste disk space?
[05:35] <phirestalker> because it isn't a waste when shit crashes so much
[05:35] <snuxoll> phirestalker: the installation disc is cramped as is, do you want us to require DVD's just to cram debugging symbols in?
[05:35] <IdleOne> !language | phirestalker
[05:36] <sigjuice> is there a way to tell bash to skip all startup file initialization (/etc/profile, ~/.bashrc etc)?
[05:36] <phirestalker> snuxoll, sure nowadays with all the fast internet and cheap dvds why not?
[05:37] <sigjuice> btw, I was looking for bash-dbgsym or similar and can't seem to find it.
[05:37] <metaphaze> phirestalker, because I live in Wyoming
[05:37] <snuxoll> phirestalker: not everybody has fast internet or a DVD burner
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> sigjuice: you could have a script to run:  source ~/.nothing; commands   and have ~/.nothing as a blank file, after the comamnds make the script run: source ~/.bashrc
[05:37] <Balsaq> maybe ubuntu could aslo offer a diagnostic disk separate to those who enjoy a lil extra bloat?
[05:38] <Balsaq> put all kinds of stuff-utilities on it. debugging software and everything!
[05:38] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys, my gnome applications menu is empty...if I click on edit menu nothing happens
[05:39] <phirestalker> well either bug buddy is retarded or the gnome-dbg meta package doesn't depend on enough, how do I find out what dbg packages I need to install in the new "user friendly" bug buddy world?
[05:39] <Balsaq> dhruvasagar, i would do a repair installation
[05:39] <snuxoll> phirestalker: the -dbg package for whatever is being crashtastic?
[05:39] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: repair installation ? how ?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: if you run: alacarte in terminal, do you get output?
[05:39] <phirestalker> snuxoll, ya I have that installed, oh it's evolution by the way
[05:40] <phirestalker> snuxoll, my guess is that it is some library that evolution depends on, but as much as evolution TRIES to do, I could be looking through thousands of libraries
[05:40] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: while doing the installation directions
[05:40] <phirestalker> snuxoll, you see my dilemma?
[05:40] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: yes I do get some output http://paste.ubuntu.com/524266/
[05:41] <D3luSi0n4L> ActionParsnip: i did the sudo make install, it went through its process now it was "INSTALL" a bunch of items then ti went to "FATAL" and id a bunch of a things, now its not moving?
[05:41] <Balsaq> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop              sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop         i dunno maybe like that?
[05:41] <D3luSi0n4L> nvm ill btb
[05:41] <D3luSi0n4L> brb
[05:41] <sigjuice> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure I follow. I am trying to get an interactive bash shell that has completely skipped /etc/profile and the like.
[05:41] <Balsaq> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: was that for me ? that sounds quote stupid to me
[05:42] <Balsaq> While booting, Ubuntu provides a way to go into boot menu just like any other operating system and in the menu it provides an option to boot into recovery mode.
[05:42] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: yes I am aware of that
[05:42] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: I am not sure if you are talking to me...
[05:42] <Balsaq> dhruvasagar, di u ever have a good installation to begin with?
[05:43] <sigjuice> ActionParsnip: nevermind. I think I figured it out.  I need bash --noprofile
[05:43] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: there is an error, does it help you in identifying what's wrong ?
[05:43] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: of course
[05:44] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: I have been upgrading since ubuntu 8.04 on this very machine, never had to re-install
[05:44] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: I am on 10.04 right now
[05:44] <knightwise> good morning
[05:44] <knightwise> i havee a problem when i insert a usb key
[05:44] <dhruvasagar> knightwise: very good morning :)
[05:45] <phirestalker> dhruvasagar, lucky you, I have to reinstall when I build my new system so I can start on 64 bit :P
[05:45] <Balsaq> dhruvasagar, i noticed some strange behavior when i installed 10.04, and i ended up sticking in ext 3 and for me the oddities disappeared ...coincidence..dunno.
[05:45] <dhruvasagar> phirestalker: I have been on 64 bit since the beginning
[05:45] <knightwise> the default entry for the device name ( in /media/ ) is borked up to "test.txt" instead of the drives name
[05:45] <knightwise> any ideas how i can fix that ?
[05:45] <knightwise> good morning dhruvasagar
[05:45] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: hmmm I am on ext4...
[05:46] <phirestalker> oh my god!!! you killed kenny!!
[05:46] <phirestalker> you b*$tards
[05:46] <Balsaq> on certain computers, depending on what u are doing, ext 4 has had some issues.
[05:46] <knightwise> exit
[05:46] <phirestalker> sorry couldn't help myself :|
[05:46] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: ok, although I have a difficult time believing that the menu problem has got anything to do with it
[05:47] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: I was having perfectly good menu, I think my system crashed because of some memory issue in the middle of when I was editing the menu
[05:47] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: its kinda clear to me that the config file or whatever the menu uses must have gotten corrupted then
[05:47] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: I am trying to get some help fixing it
[05:48] <Balsaq> mine was crashing during updates and noone could help me
[05:48] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: that's unfortunate
[05:48] <Balsaq> so i did some reading and did wut i had to do
[05:48] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: but how can I migrate to ext3 without destroying my data ?
[05:48] <redfox> #ubuntu-br
[05:48] <Balsaq> back it up
[05:48] <redfox> !pt
[05:49] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: :)
[05:49] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: I will consider doing that sometime soon perhaps
[05:49] <Balsaq> funny thing is i had the same issue with xubuntu 1004
[05:49] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: same issue ?
[05:49] <Balsaq> it would get seemngly deep inti the updates....
[05:49] <bl01zk> is Ubuntu 10.10 worth updating too/
[05:49] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: ahh ok
[05:50] <almoxarife> Balsaq: my facebook is broke, should I go back to ext3?
[05:50] <dhruvasagar> bl01zk: definitely
[05:50] <Balsaq> and then after hours i would ssat wtf is this?
[05:50] <Balsaq> and noone knew
[05:50] <Silivrenion> Need some help... I have a laptop hooked up to an external monitor. At night, I shut off the external, and close my laptop screen (the residual light annoys me)... apparently ubuntu thinks that it should change my monitor configuration to use one monitor when I do this. How do I get it to not change configurations automatically?
[05:50] <dhruvasagar> almoxarife: what do you mean your facebook is broke ?
[05:50] <Balsaq> so i would be forced to crash it myself
[05:50] <netjunk> can scp copy a remote folder to the localhost??
[05:50] <phirestalker> bl01zk, if you have nvidia then YES for sure
[05:50] <Stormx2> phirestalker, why is 10.10 good for nvidia users?
[05:50] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: you should check out your monitors preferences
[05:51] <dhruvasagar> Balsaq: hmm
[05:51] <Silivrenion> laptop monitors don't turn off.. they keep powered on
[05:51] <dhruvasagar> phirestalker: I have nvidia, am I missing something ? :), I wanna know too
[05:51] <phirestalker> Stormx2, because the previous drivers sucked, in that they didn't handle vdpau very well at least for me and some other issues
[05:51] <Silivrenion> my regular monitor would power off if I needed it to, but the laptop panel just stays brightly lit
[05:51] <rdw200169> netjunk: yes.
[05:52] <Silivrenion> thats why i need the monitors configuration to not change if i close the lid
[05:52] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: you mean when you close the lid of your laptop, it still stays on ?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> netjunk: sure
[05:52] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: you need to check your power management preferences then
[05:52] <Silivrenion> if i close the lid of my laptop, monitor resolutions are reconfigured to use single display
[05:52] <Silivrenion> i want to prevent that reconfiguration
[05:53] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: you can make your computer either go on stand-by or hibernate when you close the lid...I am sure you should be able to figure out which suits you best
[05:53] <netjunk> thanks
[05:53] <Silivrenion> no, no
[05:53] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: hmm
[05:53] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: reading
[05:53] <Silivrenion> k
[05:53] <Balsaq> now when i stuffed 10.04 in my new i7 using wubi...it didnt do any of this wacky stuff....runs beautiful, but my older stuff seems to want it on ext 3?
[05:53] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: do you use nvidia ?
[05:53] <Silivrenion> no
[05:53] <phirestalker> alright all I'm out, unfortunately I have to work tomorrow
[05:54] <Balsaq> 10-4 boss
[05:54] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: please check System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[05:54] <Silivrenion> checking for?
[05:54] <sresu> Upgrading to Meerkat affects fonts and display?
[05:55] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: it will be a lot easier if you just open it :)
[05:55] <Silivrenion> it's open.. what is your suggestion?
[05:55] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: are both your monitors connected right now ?
[05:55] <Silivrenion> yes
[05:55] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: you should be able to see both the monitors configurations
[05:56] <Silivrenion> yes
[05:56] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: ur problem is the fact that the resolution gets changed after you close the lid, am I right ?
[05:57] <Silivrenion> yes.. the Laptop display is turned "off" in monitor preferences, causing the external monitor to take "Same Image on All Monitors" mode
[05:57] <Silivrenion> when i open back up the lid of the laptop, I have to reconfigure my monitor settings again
[05:58] <Silivrenion> (and that's a pain)
[05:58] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: doesn't just using the switch to monitor button do that for you ?
[05:58] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: or are you trying to use both the monitors at the same time ?
[05:58] <Silivrenion> i use both at the same time, or none at all
[05:58] <Silivrenion> i never switch.. it's not a "docked" configuration
[05:59] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: I use nvidia so its a little difficult for me to explain, but x display configuration allows me to control the way I want to use multiple monitors
[05:59] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: can you show me a screen shot of your monitor prefs ?
[05:59] <Silivrenion> sure, one moment
[05:59] <WXZ> how do I automatically lock my screen after a certain amount of time
[06:00] <blackshirt> you can configure it through screensaver properties
[06:00] <WXZ> don't have preferences > screensaver
[06:00] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: check power management
[06:01] <nebz> Hi all... i need some suggestions ... my network looks like this Internet ---> Router ---> eth0 - ubuntu server eth1 ---> client machine..... i want the client to be on the same net as the server so i did use brctl (brctl addbr bridge0, brctl addif bridge0 eth0 eth1) and bridge seems to work fine to reach the internet... but i cant ping the server from client and vice versa.... any tips/suggestion are welcome :)
[06:01] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: although you should have preferences -> screensaver too
[06:01] <Silivrenion> dhruvasagar, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71284/Screenshot.png
[06:01] <WXZ> doesn't seem to be anything related to lock screen
[06:01] <WXZ> in power manager
[06:01] <WXZ> management*
[06:02] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: Put computer to sleep when inactive for ...
[06:02] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: under Actions
[06:03] <WXZ> ok, testing it now
[06:03] <rdw200169> nebz: easy! just give the bridge0 interface an ip on the subnet
[06:03] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: what is it set to ?
[06:03] <WXZ> 1 minute
[06:03] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: checking
[06:04] <rdw200169> nebz: if you want the server to surf the net, just assign the gateway/dns to bridge0 as well
[06:04] <_vaibhav_> Am not able to run netbook edition on Vbox on Ubuntu 10.04 it says No required Driver Detected for Unity... What should I do to fix it??
[06:04] <WXZ> that doesn't really lock it :s
[06:04] <WXZ> it just turns off the display
[06:05] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: hmm
[06:05] <john38> Yep
[06:05] <WXZ> is it put computer to sleep, or put display
[06:05] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: and you don't have System -> Preferences -> Screensaver ? are you sure ?
[06:05] <WXZ> no dhruvasagar
[06:06] <WXZ> I think it's because I did it from a minimal install
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: run: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:06] <WXZ> "put computer to sleep"
[06:06] <WXZ> would that work?
[06:06] <john38> Damn Intel 865G crappy chipset
[06:06] <WXZ> ok, I have to wait 10 minutes *sigh*
[06:07] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: try installing gnome-screensaver from synaptics?
[06:07] <Silivrenion> dhruvasagar, I found that xset dpms force off is a workaround that will turn off the monitors nicely
[06:07] <_vaibhav_> ActionParsnip: Gives:- 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[06:07] <Silivrenion> it doesn't fix the reconfiguration problem, but it does mean i won't have to close the laptop screen
[06:07] <john38> is there such thing as defective AGP slots
[06:07] <dhruvasagar> Silivrenion: hmm
[06:08] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: I think it should be display to sleep
[06:08] <nebz> rdw200169: im not sure how to do it... i mean my router gives my server eth0 and ip with dhcp, and when bridged my client get an ip from router to, should i manualy give the bridge0 and ip? or can it be from router dchp to?
[06:08] <WXZ> I installed screensaver dhruvasagar
[06:08] <john38> theres only so much driver scrutinizing you do
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Silivrenion: dhruvasagar: add this in xorg.conf and it'll never sleep: http://pastebin.com/15maVDvq
[06:08] <WXZ> so let's wait a minute
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: oh one of those :(
[06:08] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: ok
[06:09] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: cool
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: i've only seen them work with xorg.conf files personally
[06:09] <Silivrenion> ActionParsnip, i'm not trying to prevent sleeping.. i'm trying to prevent monitor reconfiguration when the lid is closed
[06:09] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: although did you get to look at my problem about the menu ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/524266/
[06:10] <rdw200169> nebz: considering that your server is a relatively 'static' device, you're gonna want to give it a static IP address.  let me suggest the second IP in the subnet, like <IP_ADDRESS>, that way, you can remember it... in the future, i suppose you're gonna want to do more with your server than just run it like a expensive switch!
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: are you the owner of all of your $HOME
[06:11] <WXZ> woo, success
[06:11] <rdw200169> nebz: regardless, you can assign bridge0 to receive dhcp instead of eth0.  reference /etc/network/interfaces and read the man file on the interfaces file
[06:11] <_vaibhav_> ActionParsnip: so How I can make it work??
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> rdw200169: having servers at the top end of the network is a good idea as DHCP pools start at the bottom and work up, fewer IP conflicts :)
[06:11] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: I am the only user of this laptop...yes I am the owner of $HOME
[06:12] <dhruvasagar> WXZ: I am glad :)
[06:12] <nebz> rdw200169: ok thx, i think i will change my router settings and set static ip on the server as it seems better
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: search for sample xorg.conf files based on that chip description you gave, you will need: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to get write access#
[06:12] <rdw200169> ActionParsnip: well, if it were me, i would just use the server as the router, and run dhcp from it... NAT on the server is much better for me, but i know what i'm doing to prevent firewall/security issues
[06:12] <_vaibhav_> ActionParsnip: Ahh... Thanks.. :)
[06:13] <john38> Has anybody else here had weak splash screen with 10.10 maverick weird shutdown
[06:13] <john38> why does that happen
[06:13] <rdw200169> nebz: once you can ping the server, i suggest you go to town and install some fancy web servers and monitoring software just to get comfortable with the things you can do with a server, like set up a ftp server, etc...  :)
[06:14] <Silivrenion> now here's the question.. I want to run the monitor shutoff command on one computer, and have another ubuntu computer also run it from that press... is it possible to script up the ssh connection that would cause that to happen?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> rdw200169: i'd rather have a hard device doing routing so if the server goes down or needs a reboot it doesn't take the LAN with it
[06:15] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: ...
[06:15] <rdw200169> ActionParsnip: and i would completely agree with you if i could afford routers fancier than the servers i can afford!
[06:16] <JackyChao> hello
[06:16] <kuatto> hey guys, running ubuntu here and I noticed somthing weird. running `lsof | grep TCP` I noticed "evince" the pdf viewr had a bunch of tcp connectinos open. is this normal?
[06:17] <_vaibhav_> ActionParsnip: In my Vbox, am getting  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter.
[06:17] <nebz> rdw200169: hehe ya, well i know what to do.. im planing to set it up as a nas with torrent and more, but my linux skills are kinda rusty, not been using linux in awhile, i just wanted to bridge my main client machine becouse i wanted to use the giga card with the server for faster transfer, but soon i think i go buy a new router :) so i can skip the bridge and connect everything throu the router instead
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: thats because the video is virtualized
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: install the guest additions and you will be ok
[06:18] <_vaibhav_> Okie... Thanks Let me try out by xorg.conf...
[06:19] <rdw200169> nebz: well, once you've got an ip on bridge0 you should have no problems with those file transfers!
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: once you install the guest additions, you wont need xorg.conf in the virtual system
[06:21] <_vaibhav_> ActionParsnip: yup!
[06:22] <New0> have a few prob with ubuntu if u can help i will be glad
[06:22] <circlez> What is the command to change file ownership?
[06:22] <Gentoon> I Had Windows installed and now I have decided to just run it in a virtualbox, so my partition table is all messed up. I would like to just have 2 large partitions both ext3. Here is my partition table http://tinypic.com/r/15wf40g/7 Is there a way to accoumplish this w/o delteing my sda8 partition?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> circlez: chown
[06:23] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: ping ?
[06:24] <endhiran> system requirement for playing hd
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: ping what?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> !ot | endhiran
[06:25] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: just checking what your thoughts are on my problem...u were mid way helping me
[06:25] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: the menu problem - http://paste.ubuntu.com/524266/
[06:26] <Gentoon> Anyone get a chance to look at my partition table?
[06:26] <seidos> what's a good dock to use?  i tried conky and couldn't get it working
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: if you run: cd /home; sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ./$USER   it will ensure you are the owner
[06:26] <maco> seidos: conky isnt a dock...
[06:26] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: I said I am the owner...
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: is there a bug logged for the activity?
[06:26] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: no
[06:28] <seidos> maco, ah, thanks
[06:28] <maco> !info avant-window-navigator | seidos
[06:28] <maco> !info docky | seidos
[06:28] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: oh you meant if there's a bug logged already ? let me check
[06:29] <sosaited> Cairo dock is also good
[06:30] <Axsuul> how do I found out what group apache/php user belongs to?
[06:30] <seidos> ah, docky isn't in karmic repositories...forget it i'll just use standard gnome.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Axsuul: groups username
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !info docky
[06:31] <New0> hi guys have Q: have a 6600, was is the driver that good for it ?
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> seidos: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-distributions/4-ubuntu/1200-install-cairo-dockawn-and-docky-in-ubuntu1010-maverick-meerkat
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !info docky karmic
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | New0
[06:32] <sosaited> !info cairo-dock karmic
[06:32] <sosaited> !info cairo-dock seidos
[06:33] <blakkheim> since when is "eye-candy" an adjective
[06:33] <New0> ubottu tnx
[06:33] <sosaited> !info cairo-dock | seidos
[06:34] <New0> ActionParship tnx
[06:34] <mkquist> im of the opinion that Cairo-dock is great!... random post
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> simdock is ok if you must have a dock
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> nice and light
[06:36] <New0> ActionParship lol i was thinking that ubottu help me so i :ubotuu tnx
[06:36] <New0> ActionParship intead for u tnx :) lol
[06:36] <seidos> trying to set up a panel-less wm environment, but i'll probably end up going back to standard gnome
[06:37] <New0> *instead
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> I found most all of the 'docks' too limiting..  the latest AWN had some nice features however.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> I still liked how WindowMaker handled it years ago. Simple 'warf' apps you ran and built your own dock basically.
[06:38] <mkquist> Dr_Willis: just curious on that... how are they limiting?...  no flame, just curious
[06:38] <circlez> seidos: fluxbox is a great wm to go without a panel.  With .fluxbox/keys you can set up keyboard shortcuts to all your favorite apps!
[06:39] <New0> vm=virtual mechine ?
[06:40] <andycc> New0, yes.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> circlez: totally, fluxbox rocks
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> mkquist:  for most of them You have to work 'their' way  and use their applets.  seems Dock #1 always has some feature Id like in dock #2's, and then dock #4 has a really cool way of doing other things that 1 and 2 need to steal.. (err.. borow)
[06:40] <n2diy> anybody using gEDA for PCB fabricating?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Ive ran without a panel for years. :) Us old timers rember the old days.
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> I just use guake to launch stuff, then ALT+TAB to switch between, much easier and fewer used resources
[06:41] <mkquist> Dr_Willis: ok, i think i see what ur getting at, but, I still have to say I'm happy with cairo tho...  i see the 'their way' thing tho...
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: amen (although not such an old timer as some ;D)
[06:42] <cr0ss> Hey, this is a newby question.  I've done crontab -e.  How do I save and exit?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> cr0ss: what editor are you using?
[06:43] <cr0ss> I don't recognize it
[06:43] <cr0ss> could be vi
[06:44] <cr0ss> What ever it is, it doesn't respond to CTRL+x or CTRL+O
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> cr0ss: i'm not personally conversant with vi, maybe someone else can advise. if you run: export EDITOR=nano    you can use nano, which is much friendlier
[06:44] <cr0ss> Oh...
[06:45] <cr0ss> nope
[06:45] <CaneToad> cr0ss: press ESC capital Z then capital Z
[06:45] <cr0ss> didn't work
[06:45] <cr0ss> nothing
[06:45] <sosaited> why don't you use gedit
[06:45] <cr0ss> freakin' weird stuff
[06:45] <cr0ss> Cause I'm not using a GUI
[06:45] <CaneToad> cr0ss: maybe press control D ???
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> vi --> <esc> :wq       also
[06:45] <cr0ss> That's delete
[06:46] <cr0ss> haha
[06:46] <cr0ss> neither
[06:46] <cr0ss> wtf is this thing!?
[06:46] <CaneToad> if it is emacs, then control X then control C
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> No idea what editor you areusing then. :)
[06:46] <cr0ss> ooo
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> hit escape a few dozen times, then try :help
[06:46] <cr0ss> What's ^KD?
[06:47] <cr0ss> that's the command
[06:47] <cr0ss> that's the stupidest shit I've seen
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> ^ = ctrl key.
[06:47] <maco> !language | cr0ss
[06:47] <CaneToad> ^KD is control K then d
[06:47] <cr0ss> Yea, but what editor would have that?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> I found some consoel based editor ages ago that was basically like the old dos edit. with menus.. but i forget its name..
[06:48] <cr0ss> shit is a swear?
[06:48] <cr0ss> my lil niece says it...
[06:48] <maco> cr0ss: yes
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> nano uses the ctrl-stuff all the time.
[06:48] <cr0ss> Welcome to the <CENCORED> inet...
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> nano has the ctrl-coded at the bottom of the screen.. its just that beginners often dont realize theat ^ = ctrl.
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> cr0ss:  get over it.
[06:49] <cr0ss> What you talk bout willis?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> In nano -->  ^O WriteOut
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> in vi -   <esc>:wq
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> in emacs... I forget.. :)
[06:49] <CaneToad> Dr_Willis: ^X ^C in emacs
[06:50] <CaneToad> so cr0ss, try control O control X
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> mcedit - F2
[06:50] <cr0ss> GAR!
[06:50] <cr0ss> Is there a way to edit this in nano?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> I dont even recall what you are editing...
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> cr0ss: nano to exit and save use CTRL+X, Y, ENTER
[06:50] <andycc> cr0ss, nano is not exactly known for its customizability.
[06:50] <sosaited> If you were creating a new one, it gives an option to chose the editor
[06:51] <quiescens> o.O
[06:51] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: crontab
[06:51] <quiescens> how can people make something so complicated
[06:51] <tracker> does anyone know what is the best book for learning python?
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> andycc: maybe but it doesnt have all that command mode, input mode confusion when you just want to add a few lines to a text file
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> tracker:  theres dozens of them out there. For total beginners - most of them cover the same topics.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> tracker:  you proberly want a book that you wont outgrow in 5 days. :)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis>  crontab  -e
[06:52] <Dr_Willis>  crontab  -e    --> asks what default editor to use here.
[06:52] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: He said he used that command.. Yeah I said that as well. that he can use nano by selecting it from the option
[06:52] <najirah> pablo
[06:52] <CaneToad> crontab -e doesn't ask here
[06:53] <CaneToad> cr0ss: what editor are you familiar with?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> nano is the default for crontab -e, if you just hit enter after it asks.
[06:53] <cr0ss> Sorry, I figured it out:)
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> the 'select-editor' command changes your default editor.
[06:53] <andycc> EDITOR=vi crontab -e
[06:53] <sosaited> DOes anyone know of a list of laptops Ubuntu 10.10 supports without a problem? I am trying to get someone to migrate to Linux, but as I can't be there to set it up for her, I need to make sure she wont have big problems with it
[06:53] <cr0ss> env EDITOR=nano crontab -e
[06:53] <cr0ss> used that
[06:53] <cr0ss> worked pretty well
[06:53] <sosaited> cr0ss: Nice.
[06:53] <blakkheim> lol nano
[06:54] <cr0ss> Merci buckets
[06:54] <cr0ss> nano ftw baby
[06:54] <CaneToad> sosaited: I'm running 10.10 on Dell Vostro 1710
[06:54] <cr0ss> nano > * for doing minor edits
[06:54] <CaneToad> 17" notebook
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> nano needs replaced... badly...
[06:54] <quiescens> cr0ss: for future reference, you can probably run "select-editor" to set your default
[06:54] <najirah> hy
[06:54] <SwedeMike> sosaited: I've never seen such a list.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> cr0ss: nano is super easy :)
[06:54] <andycc> sosaited: http://linuxhcl.com/
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  there are some sites that sell Linux preinstalled laptops..   theres so many laptops out.. the best you can proberly do is find linux laptop reviews and look for ones with the fewest probpeklsm
[06:55] <sosaited> CaneToad: I need to find about Dell Inspiron 1564. Apparently people had problems with 10.04, but I cant find much about 10.10
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  even then.. its always possible theres some bug/quirk/issues with the next OS releases
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> cr0ss: you can add the export ni ~/.bashrc and it will always be set
[06:55] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: small bugs I will be able to fix/work around via RDP. but people couldn't even boot on <10.04 on that laptop
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> cr0ss: ni == in
[06:56] <andycc> cr0ss: or ~/.zshrc if you use zsh, which I wholeheartedly recommend.
[06:56] <cutout> I have a machine, when it start the memory check gives 16 GB, but on ubuntu when I check with free -m command I get only about 4GB of RAM, how can this happen?
[06:56] <sosaited> andycc: Thanks . I'll look that
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> cutout: you are using 32bit kernel
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  with the move to plymouth. for my Nvidia machines I have to use the 'nomodeset' option to get a working GUI to install from. and boot from, Untill i get the nvidia-drivers installed.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> cutout: install the pae kernel to access the rest
[06:56] <cutout> ActionParsnip: how can I tell?
[06:56] <andycc> cutout: or the 64-bit version of Ubuntu if it's a 64-bit machine.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> I suggest the 64bit version of ubuntu.
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> cutout: uname -r   i686 == 32bit, x86_64 == 64bit
[06:57] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: I think Dell used to sell a lot of laptops with preinstalled Ubuntu, but apparently they discontinued that?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> andycc: not always, most 64bit CPU can run 32bit OS
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  theres other sites  that still do. System76 i recall is one.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  i think dell still does.. but havent looked into them,
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> cutout: if you install linux-image-generic-pae then you wil be able to access all the ram using extra software addressing#
[06:59] <giulia> hello
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> cutout: 32bit PAE kernel can access 64Gb RAM
[06:59] <canadacow> hi
[06:59] <giulia> I am annoyed with a window problem
[06:59] <giulia> I don't have the focus any more
[06:59] <peturi> How can I configure Ubuntu 10.10 to show the network-manager gnome applet to all users?
[06:59] <giulia> any idea on how can I solve my problem ?
[06:59] <peturi> Usually it only shows up for the first user who logs on.
[06:59] <cutout> ActionParsnip: the macjine is 64-bit but It has ubuntu 32-bit, is it possible to install the package you sayed? will fix the problem? or do I have to reinstall ubuntu 64?
[06:59] <giulia> peturi, someone will tell you better than me
[07:00] <giulia> but you have to put it in the /usr/share directory
[07:00] <peturi> okay
[07:00] <SwedeMike> cutout: pae kernel will give you access to all memory.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> cutout:  the pae kernel on 32bit os  -> lets you access all the ram. but if you ever reinstall. Youmay want to use the 64bit version of the OS.
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> cutout: if you install the pae linux image you can address all the ram
[07:01] <cutout> Thanks ALL, do I just "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-pae"
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> cutout: after running: sudo apt-get update   ,yes
[07:02] <cutout> ActionParsnip: OK thanks
[07:02] <reeniginEesreveR> what is hardened-c++ ?
[07:02] <giulia> well, should I quit Compiz Fusion ?
[07:02] <giulia> I am annoyed with not having the focus for my windows
[07:03] <giulia> I mean, when I don't have my windows in the task bar
[07:03] <giulia> I have to click on Esc to fix it
[07:03] <giulia> but it comes back
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> You may want to try running without compiz going.   alt-f2 -> 'metacity --replace' and see if the system works better..
[07:04] <sosaited> Is it better to install 64-bit or 32-bit Ubuntu 10.10 on Core i3 processor?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  i always use 64bit OS on sysmtes that are 64bit.
[07:05] <giulia> great Doctor :)
[07:05] <andycc> sosaited: I'd say 64-bit, but I think you'll have problems with Flash.
[07:05] <giulia> you solved my problem :)
[07:05] <giulia> can I offer you a rose ?
[07:05] <cephalopod> random question: does anyone know about irssi config?
[07:05] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: I just read on forums that its better to install 32-bit if you dont have AMD processor. Though that might have been just one mans experience/opinion
[07:06] <sosaited> andycc: Its not me who has to install, someone else who isn't that experienced in computers. But I can RDP in to set up/fix some stuff.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  ive used 64bit on amd and intel.. - with no real issues for  quite some time now.
[07:06] <sosaited> andycc: The flash problems are fixable?
[07:07] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: Hmm. Notebook or desktop?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  Yes :) both..
[07:07] <andycc> sosaited, http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/install-64-bit-adobe-flash-player-on-ubuntu-904/
[07:07] <andycc> maybe that helps
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  i have 1 machine now that 32bit. thats the netbook...
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> 3+ Desktops, 3+ Laptops all 64bit
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> The theres that little bitty netbook.
[07:07] <cephalopod> random question: does anyone know about irssi config?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> cephalopod:  irssi homepage has loads of docs. I havent used irssi much since ive switched to 'weechat'
[07:08] <sosaited> andycc: Thanks andy. I hope though that maverick wont have much problem
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> I much perfer weechat to irssi these days
[07:08] <cephalopod> that might just be the solution
[07:08] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: Hmm. Not even Hibernate/suspend or ACPI problems on Laptops?
[07:08] <cephalopod> thanks
[07:08] <rww> cephalopod: try #irssi
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  i rarely use that feature. I rarely use that feature under windows either.. It can be problamatic depending on your hardware setup. I notice it did work on my new X505 laptop the other day.. but i rarely use it.
[07:11] <sosaited> hmm. ACPI is such a BS thing. I recently chanaged one bit in my BIOS, and both my karmic and lucid wouldn't let me browese, and XP wont even boot. Then I changed it back, and also enabled ACPI 2.0 and Lucid gave a /dev/null error at startup but it is working anyway
[07:13] <WillWill56> I installed apache2 and it came with no modules, but the default apache2.conf file tries to use features from the mod_access module (which isn't installed or built into the binary). Is this meant to happen or am I doing something wrong?
[07:16] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: DId you ever need to use ia32-libs to use some 32-bit apps?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  Proberly have. but they got installed automatically for flash i belive.
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  so ive never had to worry about it.
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  i can only think of a few programs there were 32bit only. and that was some old apps.
[07:25] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: They work fine ?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> 'they' as in what? I cant recall any specific issues with anything ive had  with 64bit - in perhaps the last 2+ years...
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> zsnes = 32bit only  - the only app i can even recall thats been  affected. :)
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> and theres other 64bit snes emulators out.
[07:28] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: You use something else instead of zsnes now? or compiled it with ia32-libs ? I have absolutely no experience with 64-bit so I need to be prepared when I'll need to set up one for someone else. Especially when you are trying to prove that Ubuntu is better than Windows .:)
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> sosaited:  I imagine you could install the 64bit version of Ubuntu.. and just go... i doubt if you will encounter any issues.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Unless you just hae to have zsnes.. :)
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> ive had more 64 vs 32bit issues in windows.. then i have in linux.
[07:30] <obsidieth> if you ignore flash, 64bit is glorious
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> I believe there's a 64bit build of zsnes on getdeb/playdeb
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> i dont really have any flash issues in 64bit either.
[07:30] <circlez> for the record: steam also is 32bit only.  Need the 32bit libs to compile it.
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> obsidieth: there's a 64bit flash ppa
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  that would mean they redid their assembly code. :)  or some how did some tricks to it.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: not sure, worth a looksee
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> compile steam? I just used wine to install steam. or am i missing somthing...
[07:31] <obsidieth> it was a pain last i tried, but that was some time ago.
[07:31] <circlez> dedicated server
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> There are 64bit versions of flash. but ive not tried them. because ive not needed to.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> obsidieth: means you can ditch nspluginwrapper :)
[07:32] <obsidieth> the last i saw there was a beta that got pulled
[07:32] <obsidieth> what happened after that?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> obsidieth: its back :)
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> I think its 10.1 too
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Not sure
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Like many people said..  'its not dead... just taking a break'  :)
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: I'm currently dead but have 4 days of break now :)
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> for now the biggest issue i have with anything in linux, is NetFlix not supporting it for their streams. :(
[07:33] <obsidieth> back without the ridiculous security implications?
[07:33] <snehachitre> there must be some channel to ask python doubts. can anyone please tell me the name??
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> snehachitre:  doubts?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> snehachitre:  #python
[07:34] <snehachitre> i tried that.. it says u need to be registered
[07:34] <rallias> how do i delete files from the command line?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> snehachitre:  so register your nick.
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Ha there's a 64bit flash 10.2 ppa
[07:34] <snehachitre> :-O
[07:34] <snehachitre> from where
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !register
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> snehachitre:  takes all of a few min to reg your nick.
[07:35] <_GoRDoN__> rallias: 'rm filename' for more information type 'man rm'
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html
[07:35] <rallias> kk tyvm
[07:35] <MagusOTB> what do I install in order to be able to build 32 bit things?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !be
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> !chroot | MagusOTB
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !b-d
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> MagusOTB:  the build-essential package installs the basuic compiler tools
[07:36] <h4x0rbOy> hi ubuntu cuntz :D
[07:37] <snehachitre> i ahve to type this HERE?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> h4x0rbOy: keep it PG please
[07:37] <rallias> My server is being stuborn. It is refusing to upgrade to maverick from lucid. How do i correct this behavior?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> snehachitre: type what?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> rallias: use the alternate iso
[07:37] <snehachitre> <</nick snehachitre>>
[07:37] <Dr_Willis>  /whatver are IRC commands.. yes.
[07:37] <ravi> how do i retrieve image in django by using pk as arg
[07:37] <snehachitre> ?
[07:38] <snehachitre> ?
[07:38] <rallias> ActionParsnip: It doesn't have a cd drive
[07:38] <maquis> Is there a way to open a directory in the Unity interface?  I can't even find this directory, and it's in my home dir
[07:38] <sosaited> Where can I request a local mirror for Ubuntu to be changed because the current one (Which is hosted on one of my local uni's site is damn slow. like 9KBps)
[07:38] <rallias> ActionParsnip: The only access I have to it is via an ssh prompt
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> snehachitre:  -->  Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> rallias: you can mount isos in linux
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> rallias: you can mount with command line
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  make a launcher to open a specific directlry you mean?
[07:39] <maquis> Dr_Willis: that would work
[07:39] <rallias> ActionParsnip: Isn't there an easier way?
[07:39] <Joint> hey how can i check my udev error log and where is located it at?
[07:39] <maquis> I'm just trying to find *some* way to get to it in the gui
[07:39] <Joint> I'm having some errors with it
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  'nautilus /path/to/open' as  the command line.
[07:39] <jaco123> google chrome run error help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/524301/
[07:39] <maquis> Dr_Willis: ok... so it has to be accessed from the command-line?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  make a launcher that does that perhaps.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  You could make a icon that runs that command i imagine..
[07:40] <maquis> Dr_Willis: So, what's the point of the folders section of the panel if it ignores most of my folders?  (Just curious... and I don't know where else to ask)
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> rallias: ifits stubborn and you cantdo it I recommend thatway,read the !upgrade factoid link. You need to change the lsb_release file from lts to normal. Why you are upgrading a server from lts is beyond me
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  i dont use the netbook interface. so no idea.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  ive not even tried the new netbook interface.
[07:40] <jaco123> google chrome run error help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/524301/
[07:41] <rallias> ActionParsnip: Bug in php that makes my MediaWiki installation extremely slow
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  it could be its for the 'special' folders like documents, downloads, and so forth
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> maquis: if you run alacarte and make a launcher it will appear in the remix interface afaik
[07:41] <maquis> Dr_Willis: ah... interesting
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> rallias: shame. Server + lts rocks
[07:41] <maquis> ActionParsnip: alacarte?  ok... i'll look at that.  thanks!
[07:41] <h4x0rbOy> jaco123: Please file a bug report.
[07:41] <rallias> ActionParsnip: Yeah... about that...
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> jaco123: tried the daily build via ppa?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> maquis:  thats  basically how the places menu in gnome works. You can add a folder tot he sidebar in nautilus, and it might show up there also. drag/drop it to the left side panel in the file manager.
[07:42] <maquis> Dr_Willis: ah.  Interesting.  Thanks!
[07:42] <jaco123> ActionParsnip, no i have not tried the daily build how would i go about doing that
[07:42] <snehachitre> :(
[07:43] <snehachitre> ? :(
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> jaco123: websearch fo: chromium ppa ,you'll findguides galore
[07:43] <snehachitre> with my details?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> jaco123: its a bleeding edge chrome without all the google tracking stuff
[07:44] <blakkheim> it's not without all
[07:44] <blakkheim> just with less
[07:44] <rallias> Someone hijacked my server and did a sudo apt-get install Ubuntu Desktop. How do I undo that action?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Less is ok, personally I don't care either way
[07:44] <greppy> rallias: define "hijacked"
[07:44] <obsidieth> blakkheim: less?
[07:44] <jaco123> ActionParsnip, cheers ill give it a go
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> rallias: uninstall xorg and a lot of it will be removed when you autoremove
[07:45] <obsidieth> what google stuff remains in chromium
[07:45] <rallias> greppy: john'd up my ssh server and broke in.
[07:45] <blakkheim> obsidieth: it has less of the "google tracking stuff"
[07:45] <greppy> rallias: are you sure that is all that they did?  the few times I have had to deal with a rooted server, the best action was wipe it and start clean.
[07:45] <Sanshi> hi, im thinking about to install kubuntu 10.10 on my netbook but im worried about that my cpu (1.6) may to way to slow, is that true?
[07:45] <circlez> How do I unzip a tar.bz2 file?
[07:45] <obsidieth> i thought the 'google tracking stuff' was what made chrome actually different to chromium
[07:46] <obsidieth> chromeium is open sores. how could google have trackign stuff in there.
[07:46] <h4x0rbOy> Hey does Google really track what I do and send this to FBI ???
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> circlez: tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2
[07:46] <rallias> greppy: I hash-checked everything else. That was the only thing they did.
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> h4x0rbOy: maybe not the fbi
[07:47] <greppy> rallias: ok, your call, but I would wipe it.  You should be able to just remove the packages that were installed.
[07:47] <magn3ts> Help!!! I did something and now my QT apps look like crap. http://imgur.com/k4LRb.png
[07:47] <greppy> rallias: you may want to take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log
[07:47] <rallias> greppy: webmin rotated that out allready
[07:47] <greppy> rallias: oof, good luck.
[07:48] <circlez> ActionParsnip: thanks.  tar jxvf?  Need to add that to the cheat sheet
[07:48] <magn3ts> :( :(
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> circlez: zxvf for tar.gz jxvf for tar.bz2 ,there's a single command which looks at the input file and uses the right method. Dr_Willis knowsit
[07:49] <snehachitre> :'(
[07:49] <h4x0rbOy> ??
[07:49] <snehachitre> why is my email adress showing invalid when i am trying to register my nick name
[07:49] <snehachitre> :'(
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> snehachitre: ask in #freenode
[07:50] <snehachitre> ok
[07:50] <rallias> is there a reason that packages.ubuntu.com keeps returning empty responses?
[07:50] <snehachitre> thanks
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> rallias: it may be being updated,try changing servers
[07:51] <rallias> ActionParsnip: :( Uh... oh did I mention I was using google chrome?
[07:52] <rww> rallias: because the server it's on sucks, basically
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> rallias: not sure. I'm pretty tired so I'm only remembering what's on the 10 lines on this screen
[07:52] <rww> ActionParsnip: the website for looking up package information, not a repository mirror.
[07:52] <rallias> rww: oh.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> theres proberly 5+ commands taht can unpack an archive automatically. :) i just dont rember them all
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> rww: ah I see
[07:52] <rww> ActionParsnip: go to sleep ;P
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> rww: working on it, justtravelling to bed and a cuddle
[07:53] <rallias> Oh joy I get to go to school with no sleep whatsoever... and I'm watching a movie over an ssh connection. Which sucks more?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> rallias: paris hilton
[07:54] <rallias> ActionParsnip: No "The Social Network"
[07:55]  * ActionParsnip feels the joke was missed
[07:55] <auscompgeek> Facebook.
[07:55]  * rallias tells ActionParsnip that there was no joke.
[07:55] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic is ------> that way ;P
[07:56]  * jpds hands rww a →
[07:56]  * rallias tells ActionParsnip that I have a contract with Colombia Pictures that I can download torrents as long as I report others downloading the same torrents.
[07:56] <rww> jpds: your arrow is too small :(
[07:56]  * rallias trys to repress the obvious joke.
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> rallias: I'm inclined to nod and smile
[07:57] <brontosaurusrex> what would usb or pcmcia wifi card supported out of the box (by 10.04 or 10.10)?
[07:57]  * rallias gives ActionParsnip my email, which is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:57] <rallias> email me
[07:57] <brontosaurusrex> (for an older laptop)
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> rallias: I have better things to do plus this battery is dying
[07:58] <rallias> ActionParsnip: Well remember the address.
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> rallias: I can't remember what I did an hour ago dude
[07:58] <magn3ts> My Qt apps have stopped looking normal
[07:58] <magn3ts> Any tips
[07:58] <rallias> ActionParsnip: add me on facebook
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> rallias: I've just done 48 hours in 4 days
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> clarify what looking normal means..
[07:58] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, they don't take on the GTK theme
[07:59] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, http://imgur.com/k4LRb.png
[07:59] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, I don't know how it happened. Something glitched when I was installing a bunch of pkgs on a fresh install
[07:59] <vinus> hello,i cant install softwares from softwarecenter it is showing like this"Requires installation of untrusted packages".what should i do?
[08:00] <freeday> how to execute script on ubuntu server mysql on vmware? my script is found on drive e:
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> freeday:  what language is the script in?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> vinus: can you run: sudo apt-get update and pastebin the output please
[08:00] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, a reboot seems to have fixed it actually. sorry for the false alarm
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> freeday: drive e doesn't mean anything in linux
[08:00] <freeday> myscript.sql
[08:01] <Cairo> when is this channel least active
[08:01] <freeday> for mysql
[08:01] <Cairo> ?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> freeday:  you have to somehow access your E: from  the virtual machine,..  then you would run it as you would if it was on a local drive i imagine.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> Cairo:  depends  on the holidays and so forth.
[08:01] <greppy> Cairo: probably around now, but there are generally people here 24/7 as ubuntu is world wide :)
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Cairo: this is supportonly, i'd ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Cairo:  Most active after a new release.
[08:02] <vinus> sudo apt-get update is running
[08:02] <Cairo> would installing a nvidia driver manually autouninstall the nouveaou ones or do i need to uninstall those first manually?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: too right
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Cairo:  it blacklists them i belive. Ive never had to Manually remove them
[08:03] <Cairo> but did you manually install your driver?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Cairo: no but udev will use the proprietary if it can. You can remove nouveau and nv if you wish
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> Cairo:  clarify what you mean by 'manually' install
[08:04] <Ceaze> My Ubuntu Software Center is not working!! Help Someone!!!!!
[08:04] <Eventyret> anyone able to help me with this, i have the problem in step 10, and step 7 does not work http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?board_id=3&model=X50N&id=20080921231843718&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
[08:04] <rallias> Ceaze: Try Synaptic
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> !details | Ceaze
[08:05] <brontosaurusrex> what would usb or pcmcia wifi card supported out of the box (by 10.04 or 10.10)? older laptop
[08:06] <llutz-n> brontosaurusrex: cards with atheros-chipset should be fine
[08:06] <Ceaze> I am running Ubuntu 10.10 and when i try to download anything from software center it says some like, an error, please report bug at launchpad.net....and then retry!! Help
[08:08] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis: I am running Ubuntu 10.10 and when i try to download anything from software center it says something like, an error, please report bug at launchpad.net....and then retry!! Help
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> Ceaze:  try installing somthing via the command line,  'sudo apt-get install SOMTHING' and see if that works
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> could be some servers are down. or other networking issues
[08:09] <blackshirt> Ceaze: yeah, try it on terminal
[08:09] <WillWill56> Can anyone with apache2 quickly post the results of ls /etc/apache2/mods-available/'
[08:10] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis: OK
[08:11] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis: It's Working
[08:15] <LanTo> Hi all.
[08:15] <zooka> i wanna to setup vmware in linux mint 9
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> !vmware
[08:15] <zooka> eny body know how
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> zooka:  and see the mint support channels... not ehre for mint.
[08:16] <jaco123> hey im having trouble with chromuim please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/524314/
[08:17] <LanTo> ... hello people... I've a trouble using Sane/simplescan with 10.10, (work fine in 10.04) there are instruction for debug my trouble ? (I've goggled but...)
[08:17] <Diverdude> im trying to copy a flder like:  sudo cp ARproj personalWiki    but i get: cp: omitting directory `ARproj'      what am i missing?
[08:17] <rambo3> DeathCrawler,  -r
[08:17] <rambo3> Diverdude, -r
[08:17] <DeathCrawler> wat
[08:18] <jaco123> hey im having trouble with chromuim http://paste.ubuntu.com/524314/
[08:21] <zamba> how can i do a md5sum over a set of files?
[08:21] <zamba> oh, nevermind.. i can use cat
[08:21] <zamba> it just occured to me
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> zamba:  md5sum foo*
[08:22] <jaco123> how can i mount /dev/shm as rw
[08:22] <the_german> hi @ all. I need a mp3tag utility for the CLI! Any ideas?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis>  ls -ld /dev/shm/
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 360 2010-11-02 04:00 /dev/shm/
[08:22] <zamba> Dr_Willis: yeah, but that gives me one md5sum for each file
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> zamba:  so what were you wanting to do?
[08:23] <zamba> Dr_Willis: i want the md5sum for all of the files combined
[08:23] <zamba> Dr_Willis: so i just did cat * | md5sum
[08:23] <_GoRDoN_> jaco123: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/shm might work
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> zamba:  that seems... weird...
[08:23] <zamba> Dr_Willis: why?
[08:23] <sporedi> when i tryed to login to my vnc server it only ask for host and passwd it did not ask for username how do i fix this issuse
[08:23] <zamba> Dr_Willis: i want to make sure that all files are identical
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> so later.. the sums dont match.. now WHICH file is bad zamba ?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Oh.. so thats the actual problem.. :)
[08:24] <zamba> Dr_Willis: then i'll investigate further
[08:24] <zamba> Dr_Willis: especially since i have different sets of files in the directory
[08:24] <jaco123> Dr_Willis, that didnt help
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> jaco123:  what didetn help? I posted the permissions on my /dev/shm    Ive never had to touch the thing.
[08:25] <jaco123> _GoRDoN_, hey could you explian a litle more what is the exatc code i need to remount it in rw mode
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> the idea of remounting /dev/shm seems like there may be bigger issues causing the problem.
[08:26] <jaco123> aprently its one of the packages i have installed a while ago that made it read only
[08:26] <jaco123> no i cant run google chromuim because of that
[08:26] <jaco123> so im trying to change it back
[08:26] <blueghost> 谁帮我换算一下 dpi
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> whats your mount command say abou it..
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> mount | grep shm
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[08:27] <blueghost> qt4 怎么换算的结果不对
[08:27] <administrator__> ghh
[08:27] <administrator__> hai
[08:27] <rambo3> how do i restart sound server
[08:27] <administrator__> hi
[08:27] <jaco123> mine says tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (ro)
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> rambo3:  sudo service pulse restart  (or somthing)
[08:27] <administrator__> wherer are you form?
[08:27] <blueghost> qt4 换算的结果是 A4纸是729像素， 手动计算的是<PHONE_NUMBER>25
[08:27] <blueghost> 谁帮我换算一下 dpi
[08:27] <blueghost> qt4 怎么换算的结果不对
[08:27] <blueghost> qt4 换算的结果是 A4纸是729像素， 手动计算的是<PHONE_NUMBER>25
[08:27] <FloodBot1> blueghost: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <Dr_Willis>  sudo service pulseaudio status
[08:28] <Dr_Willis>  sudo service pulseaudio (status/start/stop/restart)
[08:28] <jaco123> PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions
[08:28] <seidos> rambo3, or sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:29] <h4x0rbOy> blueghost: ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> You dont want to use the init.d method any more. Use the service  ommand
[08:29] <Eventyret> Talk about having alot of ? xD
[08:29] <jpds> h4x0rbOy: Hi.
[08:29] <administrator__> ?????????????????////
[08:29] <h4x0rbOy> jpds: Hi.
[08:29] <blueghost> sorry, i join in fail chanel. i want to join #ubuntu-cn. sorry
[08:29] <administrator__> hi
[08:30] <rambo3> ok thanks
[08:31] <eureka_> hi all!
[08:31] <eureka_> how to use webcam in ubuntu?
[08:32] <_GoRDoN_> jaco123:What does "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/shm" say?
[08:32] <vadi01> eureka_, use cheese program
[08:32] <h4x0rbOy> eureka_: plug in webcam and fire up cheese
[08:32] <eureka_> trying it
[08:32] <eureka_> thanx guys
[08:33] <vadi01> eureka_, Applications-->Ubuntu Software Center  n intall cheese
[08:33] <eureka_> yup
[08:33] <eureka_> i know
[08:33] <vadi01> )))
[08:33] <eureka_> many thanx
[08:33] <vadi01> np
[08:35] <linuxrules> hello room
[08:36] <linuxrules> im on 10.04 on wifi having problems connecting to wiki. anyone else the same?
[08:36]  * greppy has flashbacks to late '90s AOL users connecting to IRC. FYI, IRC has channels, not rooms :)
[08:36] <suigeneris> I have a weird problem. I have a 500 gb usb hdd, and it has like 450 gb of data in it. however, windows sees this as 9gb while ubuntu sees the correct size. any thoughts how I can fix this?
[08:36] <linuxrules> sorry greppy
[08:36] <greppy> linuxrules: which wiki?
[08:36] <linuxrules> just the main one
[08:37] <greppy> ... wiki.ubuntu.com?
[08:37] <linuxrules> is it wiki or me?
[08:37] <linuxrules> wikipedia
[08:37] <greppy> heh
[08:37] <vadi01> suigeneris, ubuntu is never wrong :))) windows brrrrrr
[08:37] <h4x0rbOy> i need to poop
[08:37] <greppy> linuxrules: I can get to it just fine.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> suigeneris:   what filesystem is the hard drive? whats its partuition layout " sudo fdisk -l "  You may want to pastebin the fdisk output.
[08:37] <suigeneris> h4x0rbOy nobody needs to know
[08:38] <linuxrules> thanks greppy
[08:38] <greppy> linuxrules: might want to bookmark: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> what if   http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> goes down? :)
[08:38] <linuxrules> thanks greppy
[08:39] <greppy> Dr_Willis: then we are all screwed :)
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> the internetz will explode
[08:39] <linuxrules> ive ctrl+d it
[08:39] <llutz-n> linux wll be ready for all desktops then
[08:39] <suigeneris> Dr_Willis /dev/sdb1               1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:39] <Ichat> lol  that would be ammagheddon
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> suigeneris:  you may want to have windows check the filesystem.
[08:40] <progre55> hi guys. I've been getting "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." messages on jaunty. googling didnt help, cant seem to fix the problem. Any suggestions, please? btw, this started when I tried to install some packages from the karmic repos.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  its a warning - so shouldent affect programs.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> !locale
[08:41] <greppy> progre55: give "sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8" a shot, see if that helps :)
[08:41] <progre55> Dr_Willis: I know, but it's really annoying..
[08:41] <progre55> greppy: thanks, let me try that
[08:42] <EvaLuaTe> hello world
[08:43] <EvaLuaTe> is there a tool to see the current upload/download speed?
[08:43] <progre55> greppy: well, it says they are up-to-date, and the problem still exists.
[08:44] <EvaLuaTe> I don't mean something like speedtest.net, to test the maximum upload/download speed, but rather something that will show the _current_ speeds at which I'm downloading/uploading...
[08:44] <shomon> hi, I would like to resolve a problem with updates I've had for ages:
[08:44] <joeArpaio> EvaLuaTe, system monitor
[08:44] <shomon> I have a wee orange triangle that says my stuff is outdated, caused by network problems
[08:44] <shomon> but when I click it, it says it's all up to date...
[08:44] <h4x0rbOy> Is Ubuntu better than Suse for a linux beginner ???
[08:45] <shomon> so is it up to date or not, and how do I find out for sure?
[08:46] <EvaLuaTe>  joeArpaio, wow, thanks, didn't know the system monitor would do that. Now, is there a way to see this for individual processes (as in, what process currently uses the most bandwith or something like that)?
[08:47] <suigeneris> can I drag several icons in panel at once?
[08:48] <joeArpaio> EvaLuaTe, not too familiar, but you can do a search for bandwidth in synaptic or run "apt-cache search bandwidth | more" in a terminal
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> suigeneris:  as in add several launchers to the pannel at once? or what exactly? Try it and see if you can..
[08:49] <EvaLuaTe> joeArpaio, ok, thanks again :)
[08:49] <sugoruyo> hi all, i have a network consisting entirely of ubuntu server machines and would like to be able to talk to them on the lan using hostnames instead of IPs could anybody point me to some docs or howtos on that?
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> shomon:  try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then  and watch what it suggests. 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[08:50] <MagusOTB> What's a good graphical (s)FTP client?
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  if they are all static ip's you could edit the hosts file on each one. thats teh simpilist way.
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> MagusOTB:  the gnome file manager can do ftp.
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> MagusOTB:  theres many other ftp clients out there. Or use the fuseftp stuff and mout a remote ftp server as a local directory.
[08:51] <MagusOTB> how do I do it with nautilus?
[08:51] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: that's exactly the approach i wanted to avoid
[08:51] <MagusOTB> oh hey, found it
[08:51] <shomon> thanks Dr_Willis
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  then you need to look into setting up a dns/bind server.. id rather edit hosts file.
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  how big a network anyway?
[08:51] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: 4 machines
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Hosts file would be rather trival then. If you set them all to static ip's or set your dhcp server to always assign the same ip  to each box.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> thats how my homelan is setup.
[08:52] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: hosts file is probably easiest, but it's a testbed and configuration is still quite fluid
[08:52] <n2diy> should a joystick show up under lshw?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> router always gives pc #1 - <IP_ADDRESS>     and so on.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  perhaps under lsubb
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  perhaps under lsusb
[08:53] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: they all have static IPs but i'd rather have one place to change name resolution rather than have to go through 4 hosts files
[08:53] <amarcolino> can anyone provide any good guides/links for password policy based on /etc/pam.d/common-password, password character length and password protection... those lines?
[08:53] <h4x0rbOy> "<IP_ADDRESS>    localhost.localdomainlocalhost machineNAME"
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  you can sync the hosts file  with scp and a script.
[08:53] <n2diy> Dr_Willis: I gameport joystick?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  or other ways...
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  an actual OLD 'game port' type controller?  They still exist? :)
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  you may need to load the proper modules for the gamepad in that case.
[08:55] <sugoruyo> yeah the problem is the hosts file also includes a lot of other stuff like loopbacks
[08:55] <h4x0rbOy> Hi. I have my medical cannabis card, I'm medicated :D
[08:55] <sugoruyo> which pertain only to the local machine
[08:55] <n2diy> Dr_Willis: yep, didn't show up with lsusb, roger on the modules.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> I just append the new machiens to the end of my hosts file. I rarely touch the stuff above it.
[08:56] <n2diy> anybody using gEDA for PCB fabricating?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> network manager might alter your  hosts also.. so that may be an issue
[08:56] <sugoruyo> if i can have a separate hosts file included somehow i could put into an NFS mount or something to simplify things but i'd rather not go into ediing startup scripts and the like
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  how often are these things going to be changeing? You could always make up a script that scans the network and gets the hostnames :)
[08:57] <Anarhist> hi, i have a question, i've just installed the new ubuntu and there's one very important feature which is missing. i use to press F2 and only the name (not extension) would be highlighted
[08:57] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: maybe on a weekly basis for now
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Anarhist:  i recall someone else mentioning that rename bug also...
[08:58] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: how would i go about scanning the network and getting hostnames?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> Anarhist:  not seen any fix/settings for it.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  i basically can use 'findsmb' and get a hosts file (with a little editing) but all my machines have samba going.
[08:58] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: smb is a no-go here
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> and my hostnames are the same as my netbios names
[08:58] <Anarhist> Dr_Willis, thanks
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> I think nmap can scan and get similer info also..
[08:59] <llutz-n> sugoruyo: do you have a router/dns-server in your network? just add the hostnames to routers /etc/hosts or its dns-config then
[08:59] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: no use for it in my case, i'm setting up a linux only thing, not even GUIs
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> sugoruyo:  sounds like you need to learn some more advanced topics then. :)
[08:59] <sugoruyo> llutz-n: no access to the router it's part of a larger network where i have no say on such things
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> Ive never ran a dns server on my systems.
[09:00] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: problem is a dns would be total overkill for 4 machines
[09:00] <llutz-n> sugoruyo: things like dnsmasq are easy to setup and make live much easier
[09:01] <llutz-n> life
[09:01] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis: if testing goes well i might deploy on hundred of VMs and dozens of physical hosts where a dns server would be reasonable
[09:01] <sugoruyo> llutz-n: what's dnsmasq's function?
[09:01] <h4x0rbOy> sugoruyo: Please consider DD-WRT on a embedded device on layer 3.
[09:02] <llutz-n> sugoruyo: dns-caching dns-proxy
[09:02] <Salvo> giorno a tutti
[09:02] <sugoruyo> h4x0rbOy: why would i do that?
[09:03] <sugoruyo> llutz-n: looking up dnsmasq on WP & Google seems like the right sort of thing
[09:03] <MagusOTB> because dnsmasq has a config file structure that takes 10 seconds to set up properly and will respond to DNS requests based on /etc/hosts on the server. It's pretty convenient.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  speaking of joysticks  USB atari 2600 joystick --> http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/retro-gaming/2600/
[09:04] <suigeneris> Dr_Willis no, my menu had been lost and I added it again, therefore all the icons were shifted to the right. now I  need to move all of them to left
[09:04] <h4x0rbOy> sugoruyo: Cause DD-WRT supports DNSMasq.
[09:04] <MagusOTB> it can also serve DHCP as I remember.
[09:04] <loltph> Anyone know of any Ati drivers for 10.10 maverick?
[09:05] <sugoruyo> h4x0rbOy: ok, but i have 4 machines that are always on so why not setup dnsmasq on one of them rather than go get a device to run dd-wrt on?
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> loltph:  it depends on your ati chipset. (i dont use ati)
[09:05] <loltph> x2100
[09:05] <sugoruyo> MagusOTB: sounds exactly like what i'm looking for, i looked at bind but it seems too much for my current needs
[09:06] <blemish> maybe I'm asking this in the wrong channel
[09:06] <sporedi> when i tryed to login to my vnc server it only ask for host and passwd it did not ask for username how do i fix this issuse
[09:06] <blemish> but if I want to send a reply to a particular ubuntu bug
[09:06] <blemish> which address do I send to?
[09:06] <llutz-n> sugoruyo: bind would do too but its overkill for your setup
[09:07] <loltph> Dr_Willis: ATI RADEON XPRESS 1150 Chipset, for a hp nx6325
[09:07] <lorenzo_> join_#ubuntu-it
[09:07] <sugoruyo> llutz-n: yeah that's what i just realized, i'd seen dnsmasq mentioned before but i didn't know what it did
[09:07] <n2diy> Dr_Willis: ok, that page looks like it is going to time out? anyway, lsmod shows the game module is loaded, so I have to look a little deeper here.
[09:07] <lorenzo_> join #ubuntu-it
[09:08] <sugoruyo> llutz-n: do you know were i can find a proper howto for dnsmasq on ubuntu?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  for my old gamepads. I had to load teh moduile for the port. THEN load the module for the actual controller.
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  actually it may be just manually loading the modile for hte gamepad may load both..
[09:09] <llutz-n> sugoruyo: no not really, but just have a look at the config-file, its well commented and should make configuring easy
[09:09] <Ceaze> When I try to Install a Software from software center in ubuntu, it says There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks. Please report this error at http://launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+filebug and retry. PLEASE HELP!!!!
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Ceaze:  so did you report the bug and read the bug reports and see if others are having issues?
[09:10] <n2diy> Dr_Willis: ok, I'm going to try running a calibration routine on it, and see what happens.
[09:10] <sugoruyo> llutz-n: ok thx
[09:10] <brontosaurusrex> what would usb or pcmcia wifi card supported out of the box (by 10.04 or 10.10)? older laptop
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Ceaze:  could be some known bug in aptdeamon thats being worked on.
[09:10] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis: I can't register at the website as I don't  get a confirmation code
[09:10] <Ceaze> at my email
[09:11] <LanTo> ... hello people... I've a trouble using Sane/simplescan with 10.10, (work fine in 10.04) there are instruction for debug my trouble ? (I've goggled but...)
[09:11] <joeArpaio> brontosaurusrex, you need to check the make model and version to see what chipset it has, and then that will help you
[09:12] <brontosaurusrex> joeArpaio, i'd need an answer like: "d-link 320 w", otherwise i would not ask at all
[09:12] <HackeMate> hello, I have installed a dhcp server in an ubuntu 7, it is very old, so I want upgrade it, my question is: is possible run a liveCD with the dhcpd.conf on the fly?
[09:12] <ceders> Anyone know a good tool to edit video properties of AVI or MPEG? i.e. Title, Year, Duration?
[09:13] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis: When I see more details about it, it show:
[09:13] <llutz-n> brontosaurusrex: since you cannot be sure what chipset is used in those types, ot makes no sense to give you a product name.
[09:13] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis:Traceback (most recent call last):
[09:13] <Ceaze>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 768, in simulate
[09:13] <Ceaze>     return self._simulate_helper(trans, status_path)
[09:13] <Ceaze>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 936, in _simulate_helper
[09:13] <Ceaze>     return depends, status, self._cache.required_download, \
[09:13] <FloodBot1> Ceaze: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <Ceaze>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/cache.py", line 218, in required_download
[09:13] <n2diy> Dr_Willis: sudo modprobe joydev loaded joydev, so, maybe I'm in business?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Ceaze:  Im not a programmer, so stuff like that is of no help.
[09:14] <Ceaze> Ok
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> Ceaze:  there are some bug reports on the aptdeamon  im seeing.
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+bug/669810
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> https://answers.launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+question/129088
[09:14] <joeArpaio> llutz-n, i was thinking more like compare it against ones that need that wrapper
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> Ceaze:  the 2nd url - suggests a fix.
[09:15] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis: OK
[09:16] <marina> hi guys
[09:17] <Ceaze> Dr_Willis: Thanks a Lot!!!!!!!!!! :) =)
[09:18] <marina> I've a problem with a Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY wireless card, I can connect to wifi but I can't use broadband mobile , I got it working once then I reboot to windows and it stopped to work on ubuntu 10.10, any hint on how can I enable the broadband connections?
[09:18] <marina> I suppose is a network card that works in both mode, wireless and broadband too (it does on windows)
[09:21] <sosaited> Is there some tool that can tell the total disk space used by files and folders by all the drives (Mounted NTFS inlucded)
[09:21] <marina> sosaited, df
[09:22] <linuxzo> come mai kde sembra che siblocchi mi va a tratti molto lento qualcuno mi puo aiutare?
[09:24] <DeaCon> morning
[09:24] <DJones> !it | linuxzo
[09:25] <sosaited> marina: Thanks a lot. that saved me a lot of time
[09:26] <rigved> sosaited: there also disk utility under System > Administration
[09:27] <MohammadR91> what commend on terminal show me system config?
[09:27] <EarlOfEgo> Hey, i have a problem: my eclipse(ganymede) isnt starting anymore. It is loading workbench and so on, but than it freezes. what can i do?
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> MohammadR91:  depends on what exactly you are interested in
[09:27] <sosaited> rigved: That doesn't show the space used by them
[09:28] <MohammadR91> Dr_Willis: system configure
[09:28] <MohammadR91> Dr_Willis: Ram CPU hard and ....
[09:28] <brontosaurusrex> MohammadAG51, there are plenty, you can install 'inxi', which shows some info collected nicely imho
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> MohammadR91:  memory used 'free' command ' disk space. 'df -h'
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> !info sysinfo
[09:29] <rigved> sosaited: sorry about that. it's Disk Usage Analyzer under Applications > Accessories
[09:29] <sosaited> MohammadR91: I would also suggest sysinfo, as Dr_Willis suggested. It is graphical.
[09:29] <brontosaurusrex> about inxi - http://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[09:30] <sosaited> rigved: Thanks man. That even saved me to add each mounts capacity .
[09:33] <rigved> sosaited: np
[09:35] <amarcolino> if I wish to not give an account shell access would I change it to /bin/false or /bin/null?
[09:35] <nondraj> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-thdQJrPU
[09:36] <rigved> !pm | samosa
[09:36] <rigved> samosa: if you have a question you can ask it in the channel, and everyone can try to help you
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Hmm i dont see /bin/false or /bin/null in the /etc/shells file at all.
[09:37] <TheSarge> How do I switch to 32bit color mode? I do not see an option in the monitor screen?
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> $ cat /etc/shells
[09:37] <TheSarge> Is there a way?
[09:37] <nondraj> Dr_Willis: thats list of available shells
[09:39] <samosa> No wireless internet on ubuntu?
[09:39] <fep> samosa: what?
[09:39] <fep> samosa: ofcourse wifi is supported
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> amarcolino:  given that there is no /bin/null   :)  try the /bin/false ?
[09:39] <TheSarge> I think his driver needs to be configured is what he is saying
[09:39] <suigeneris> !find php5-mcrypt
[09:39] <nondraj> samosa: Try to turn on physically your wifi.
[09:40] <TheSarge> My virtual box says I am running 24 bit color?
[09:40] <cast> TheSarge: ok?
[09:40] <TheSarge> I see no way to switch color modes in the gui?
[09:40] <TheSarge> Not in the Monitors section
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> TheSarge:  virtualbiox is special. You did install tejh guest addations?
[09:41] <TheSarge> Does anyone know where I can change to 32 bit color?
[09:41] <rigved> !find wifi | samosa
[09:41] <TheSarge> Dr_Willis: never had to before?
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> I was thiniking 32bit color is 24bit + some sort of alpha settings.
[09:41] <TheSarge> No its is millions more colors lol
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> TheSarge:  I always install teh guest addations for vbox - it enables a lot of features.
[09:41] <rigved> !info plasma-widget-wifi | samosa
[09:41] <TheSarge> I know but this issue is on my host machine
[09:41] <rigved> !info wifi-widget | samosa
[09:42] <nondraj> TheSarge: you dont need that
[09:42] <TheSarge> I have never needed the additions before..
[09:42] <rigved> !info wifi-radar | samosa
[09:42] <TheSarge> So does anyone know how to switch color modes?
[09:42] <TheSarge> nondraj: I do not need what?
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> the 'color depth' on my system is 24bit. from what the nvidia drivers say.
[09:42] <rigved> samosa: have you tried wifi-radar?
[09:43] <TheSarge> No one knows a way to switch this lol? In the old days you would edit Xorg.conf or Xfree86.conf?
[09:43] <nondraj> TheSarge: yes
[09:43] <TheSarge> Yes what?
[09:43] <banksy> Just done  10.04 > 10.10 ubuntu upgrade, running startx brings up a black screen with a functioning mouse cursor but nothing else.  Prior to upgrade it would load xfce desktop.  Any idea which log to look in to debug?
[09:44] <nondraj> TheSarge: you still can modify xorg conf for few things
[09:44] <nondraj> banksy: hal
[09:44] <TheSarge> Ok but I am asking how to change the color depth with the GUI...
[09:44] <cast> banksy: what happens if you put your WM in ~/.xinitrc? :)
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> TheSarge:  i think you are confused as to what 24bit vs 32bit colors mean.
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271008
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> 24-bit Truecolor uses 8 bits to represent red, 8 bits to represent blue, and 8 bits to represent green. 28 = 256 levels of each of these three colors can therefore be combined to give a total of 16,777,216 mixed colors (256 x 256 x 256). Twenty-four-bit color is referred to as "millions of colors" on Macintosh systems.
[09:45] <suigeneris> why doesn't karmic have a php5-mcrypt?
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> n reality, 32-bit color actually refers to 24-bit color (Truecolor) with an additional 8 bits either as empty padding space or to represent an alpha channel.
[09:45] <samosa> Not working for me,  idk why :/ how do I get wifi radar?
[09:46] <nondraj> samosa: compile it from source
[09:46] <banksy> cast: you lost me there!  just googling .xinitrc
[09:46] <cast> banksy: well, mine has '/usr/bin/e16
[09:46] <irvken> how can I identify my processor?
[09:46] <cast> '
[09:46] <samosa> are you being serious? :p
[09:46] <cast> irvken: less /proc/cpuinfo
[09:46] <bindi> irvken: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:46] <TheSarge> Dr_Willis: lol no I am not... They are color depths.. it starts at 8bit then 16 then 24, then 32. each one adding more colors..
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> irvken:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:46] <rigved> samosa: or you can install it from Software Center
[09:47] <TheSarge> In windows it is a simple drop down next to your resolution..
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> TheSarge: good luck then.. every time ive ever seen someone ask about 32bit colors. they are confusing the terms.
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#32-bit_color
[09:47] <irvken> what happened to system > preferences > hardware in 10.04 ?
[09:47] <TheSarge> lol yes go read it
[09:47] <TheSarge> you are the one confused lol
[09:47] <irvken> is there an equivalent
[09:48] <TheSarge> Have you ever changed your color depth in windows?
[09:48] <samosa> Is only way to download is from software center, no mirrors?
[09:48] <TheSarge> Or even in linux by editing Xorg.conf in the video modes section?
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> TheSarge:  yes. and the windows box here can do 24bit - the term 32 they have used referrs to 24bit + the alpha channels.
[09:48]  * TheSarge sighs
[09:49] <amarcolino> Dr_Willis, will try that, I saw /bin/null but that was for gutsy I think it got replaced by false but will test it
[09:49] <nondraj> Dr_Willis: he wants +8 bit alpha channels implied !
[09:49] <TheSarge> Nevermind lol I figured out how to do it lol
[09:49] <amagee> hey if i buy a laptop with a vga out and an hdmi out, and i want to use the laptop screen and two external screens, all simultaneously, is there anything i need to watch out for?
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> amarcolino:  i think there may be a more proper way to do it..
[09:49] <dancek> TheSarge, so is your current color depth 24bit?
[09:49] <TheSarge> nondraj: At least someone understands lol
[09:49] <irvken> how can I find how much ram I have?
[09:49] <TheSarge> dancek: Yes.
[09:50] <amarcolino> Dr_Willis, any suggestions are always welcome
[09:50] <nondraj> irvken: free -m and do math !
[09:50] <banksy> cast: can't find ~/.xinitrc, only have .xscreensaver (-getimage.cache) and .xsession-errors (+.old)
[09:50] <cast> banksy: one makes it.
[09:50] <amarcolino> Dr_Willis, what I am doing is removing sheel access from /etc/passwd I don't see the need for those accounts to have them on this specific server
[09:50] <nondraj> irvken: meminfo is the way to go
[09:51] <rigved> samosa: you can visit their website and download it from there: http://wifi-radar.berlios.de/
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> nondraj:  ive have the +8 alpha here. and its called 24bit as far as i can tell under all the tools.
[09:52] <siji> Hi All
[09:52] <TheSarge> Wow virtual box is retarded.. it likes to jump to my focused workspace everytime the screen changes wtf.
[09:52] <nondraj> Dr_Willis: i agree
[09:52] <dancek> TheSarge, I'm quite sure there's no difference between using 24bit vs. 32bit colors in Xorg. Most drivers use 32bit [eg. 8bit padding] with the display adapter regardless of Xorg color depth, and I don't know of a way to utilize the extra 8bits as an alpha channel.
[09:52] <nondraj> TheSarge: thats feature
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> nondraj:  I was thinking the +8 alpha is actually handled by the software some how. but  I guess it dosent matter much.
[09:52] <TheSarge> To get 32 bit mode you just have to create an Xorg.conf
[09:52] <siji> How to enable Multitouch feature of ubuntu 10.10 with Accer Multitouch monitor
[09:53] <dancek> TheSarge, if you can provide a source proving me wrong, I'd be glad to hear it.
[09:53] <nondraj> Dr_Willis: i agree that was irony from my side :)
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> nondraj:  as long as its calling it 32bit i guess hes happy...
[09:53] <dr0id> I installed the lamp-server , but now when I type php in the command line it says -bash: php: command not found , why so ?
[09:53] <rigved> does qemu have support for creating a shared folder between the host OS and the virtual OS? something like virtualbox has...
[09:53] <banksy> cast: that .xession-errors file has a fair bit in it, such as x-window-manager: fatal IO error 11 (resource temporarily unavailabe) on x server :0.0
[09:53] <jiohdi> I overloaded PAN newsreader... now its locked up... how do I remove its data so it will start fresh, or how do I uninstall all of it so it does not leave any data behind for the reinstall?
[09:53] <nondraj> dr0id: thats not proper name
[09:53] <TheSarge> dancek: All I know is my virtualbox was all messed up as far as the colors untill I added the new mode in my Xorg.conf to run 32bit
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> rigved:  not that ive noticed. You could set up samba in the virtual enviroment.
[09:53] <n2diy> I just built a test box, and I'm trying to move /home to it with gftp, but gftp isn't coping recursively, and isn't creating missing directories, ideas?
[09:54] <dr0id> nondraj: ?
[09:54] <banksy> cast: is the creation of .xinitrc at all 10.04>10.10 related or just part of debugging?
[09:54] <rigved> Dr_Willis: thanx
[09:54] <irvken> the right (and easiest) answer was "install sysinfo"
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  if you have a .xinitrc there used tobe a gdm menu item that would run that as a custome entry instead of a normal desktop
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  look in your users home dirs for the pan info. and remove/rename it perhaps.
[09:55] <nondraj> irvken: not right :P
[09:55] <dr0id> I installed the lamp-server , but now when I type php in the command line it says -bash: php: command not found , why so ?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  removing a package by the package manager. does NOT NOT NOT touch the users settings/data  in their home dir.
[09:55] <banksy> Dr_Willis: I don't have a .xinitrc
[09:55] <dancek> TheSarge, that's very strange but i see your point. I can't really help, I've always had success with virtualized Ubuntu/Debian out of the box...
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  so make one? :)
[09:55] <nondraj> n2diy: scp
[09:55] <jiohdi> Dr_Willis: right, which is a problem
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  example .xinitrc  - 2 lines.. --> xterm &     exec windowmanageryoulike
[09:55] <sugoruyo> Dr_Willis, llutz-n: thanks for the info on dnsmasq, just got a chance to set it up and it works like a charm
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  start exploreing  Ive not used pan in years.
[09:56] <llutz-n> sugoruyo: life can be so easy :)
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  perhaps .pan :)
[09:56] <TheSarge> dancek: I am running linux, windows in the virtual box.
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> guest addations in virtual box may of fixed it also..
[09:56] <sugoruyo> llutz-n: :D if you know what you're looking for or where to ask what does what you want done ;)
[09:56] <dr0id> I installed the lamp-server , but now when I type php in the command line it says -bash: php: command not found , why so ?
[09:57] <banksy> Dr_Willis - I use xfce (default on mythbuntu), so is line 2 going to be /usr/bin/xfwm4 ?
[09:57] <jiohdi> Dr_Willis: it was one file in .pan2 called tasks.nzb
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  no idea what xfce uses. but that looks about right
[09:58] <banksy> Dr_Willis: that first line includes the ampersand doesn't it?
[09:58] <suigeneris> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/mcrypt.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/mcrypt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <--- how can I fix this?
[09:59] <suigeneris> I see that karmic has no php5-mcrypt
[09:59] <llutz-n> suigeneris:install php5-mcrypt
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  yes.
[09:59] <suigeneris> llutz I see that karmic has no php5-mcrypt
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  i got the xterm &  in there as a 'failsafe' in case the window manager fails. :)
[10:00] <rigved> if i chroot into an unpacked filesystem (like squashfs) and then if i add/remove programs in it using the package manager, will this also affect my host system?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  otherwise the X server can startup. then exist. if the wm dosent start.
[10:00] <nondraj> dr0id: you can run it as scripts defining absolute path
[10:00] <dr0id> but it should'nt say command not found
[10:00] <VirusTB> Is their a way i can see all the MAC addresses of other computers connected to my wifi? (im not the routers admin)
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  i seem to rcall ubuntu moving to using .Xsession or .xsession instead of .xinitrc  but iven ot tested it in ages
[10:02] <suigeneris> !find karmic php5-mcrypt
[10:02] <banksy> Dr_Willis: the xterm is up!  Progress!  My /usr/bin/xfce4 didn't do much for me though - I'll start the googling
[10:02] <suigeneris> !find php5-mcrypt karmic
[10:02] <dr0id> !find apache2 karmic
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  now you can try other commands IN the xterm.. ie 'xfwm &' and see if any bring u the window maanger
[10:02] <rigved> !info zenmap | VirusTB
[10:02] <red2kic> I haven't been using linux for only 1 month. So I'm a bit rusty with terminal. How can I sort my du -Sh ?
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  the xterm has a title bar? or what exactly?
[10:03] <rigved> !info nmap | VirusTB
[10:03] <kuru> so I just installed mysql-server-5.1 and I can't seem to find the /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> red2kic:  command | sort  | less   is one way
[10:03] <kuru> where are the configs?!
[10:03] <banksy> Dr_Willis: typo in that last msg, my command tried was /usr/bin/xfwm4.  Title bar of xterm is richard@myth: ~
[10:04] <red2kic> Dr_Willis: It does not sort it accordingly to the space. Only characters, though.
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  if xterm has a title bar and you can move it.. then your window manager is running...
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> red2kic:   sort can take options as to where to sort by/what colum i recall.
[10:05] <thesss___> gr
[10:05] <pal3rid3r> hello all!
[10:05] <pal3rid3r> need help; My older CRT monitor died on me, and I only have a 17" flat panel monitor that cannot support the resolutions I have set at Optimum 1280x 1024 60Hz and I can't login to Ubuntu to make the changes to a lower resolution my 17" flat panel can support...
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> red2kic:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-find-the-largest-filesdirectories-on-a-linuxunixbsd-filesystem/
[10:06] <banksy> Dr_Willis: it's movable.  Doesn't look like xfce did before the upgrade!  It's what I recall as old school X.  No xfce taskbar etc
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  XFCE is the 'desktop'  xfwm is  the window amanger used by the desktop...
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  so thats correct...
[10:06] <Ced_> Heya, i ran into a weird problem with windows/ubuntu combo, windows is the DNS server, i can ping the DNS server on IP but i can't ping it on it's hostname
[10:06] <Ced_> And i CAN do an nslookup on it
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  thers some xf??? command to start the whole xfce desktop i imagine.
[10:07] <Ced_> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[10:07] <StaRetji1> grub wont autoboot? I mean, I've experienced power loss, and not grub gives me option to boot, but it doesn't counts down or autoboot, only waits for keyboard action. Any clues?
[10:07] <red2kic> Dr_Willis: Ah. Thanks. ~/.local/share/Trash was the culprit for taking up so much space. :)
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> red2kic:  empty your trash :)
[10:08] <red2kic> Dr_Willis: I will. I backed up my $HOME awhile ago and I was wondering why this would be taking long. :o
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> red2kic:  watch out for .gvfs also
[10:09] <n2diy> mondraj: I chickened out with scp, and went with grsync, thanks anyway.
[10:09] <red2kic> Dr_Willis: Virtual filesystem. Yes. I avoided that. Thanks. :)
[10:10] <pal3rid3r> Can anyone help out with monitor resolution?
[10:10] <noirlord> I'm experiencing frequent crashes (at least once per day) that completely freeze the machine (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS) even magickey fails to bring it back have to hard reboot, I've looked in syslog etc and nothing is getting written, how do I go about figuring out what is causing the crash?
[10:10] <nperry> nouveau seems to be loosing my cursor on my 2nd monitor, in theory it is still there as I can click on things but just isn't visible.. Any ideas?
[10:11] <banksy> Dr_Willis: just went to run 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' and it's saying 'Need to get 192MB of archives, ... additional 625MB will be used'.  Sounding like I destroyed xfce during my last few days?
[10:11] <Ced_> Heya, i have a DNS related problem on ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  you had xubuntu isntalled befor? or just gnome and xfce?
[10:12] <phasma> banksy: apt-cache showpkg xubuntu-desktop :p
[10:12] <phasma> it installs a LOT
[10:13] <banksy> Dr_Willis:  Whatever mythtbuntu comes with (9.04>10.04>10.10), which is probably xfce and gnome
[10:13] <pal3rid3r> Well I'll try you guys later on today...
[10:13] <StaRetji1> Ubuntu was booting and in between I had power loss. Now, Grub offers me prompt, but actually never times out? Wtf? I mean, shouldn't it autoboot after 30 seconds or something?
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  i imagine mythbuntu comes with a LIMITED set of tools from xubuntu
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  not the full xubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <StaRetji1> I don't have keyboard as it is HTPC, but I will get it. The thing is, I want to avoid this next time, I would just like to autoboot after some timeout.\
[10:15] <banksy> phasma: yes that was a few screens worth!  I said no the xubuntu option.  Will try and find more targeted packages to reinstall - Any ideas?
[10:15] <StaRetji1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/524353/
[10:17] <karthick87> Which is the best video editing software for ubuntu..?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> StaRetji1:  never seen that happen. unless grub got messed up. perhaps reinstall grub. check its /etc/default/grub file also.
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> karthick87:  depends on your needs.
[10:17] <banksy> Dr_Willis / phasma: is there an apt-get command to get apt to audit what I have, versus what 10.10 mythbuntu should have?  During my past view days with no window manager, I have removed gdm*, and nvidia*, and who knows what else
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  sudo apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop should pull in what mythbuntu uses.
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> banksy:  the use of the XXXX-desktop packages. is a bit of a kludge in many ways. It makes it easy to isntall lots of things.. but harder to keep track of the things needed for whatver desktop.
[10:19] <karthick87> Dr_Willis, I want to remove all the voice tracks from the video and insert new one..What software would you recommend