[00:01] <k1l_> ghonaim: "ls -alr .cache | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:01] <martin3> but now I have weird thing happening.. I am running ubuntu under VM. I disabled lock on idle, and login on suspend. now when I suspend VM and then resume it 800x600 resolution is used (despite saying 1920x1200 in displays). I think this is related to lock screen always using 800x600 res, regardless of set resolution
[00:01] <ghonaim> http://termbin.com/npig
[00:02] <k1l_> ghonaim: ok, that is the issue
[00:02] <georgeilots> thank guys i found it in apperence
[00:02] <YankDownUnder> No one buys donuts anymore. Sad, that.
[00:03] <ghonaim> so ?
[00:03] <k1l_> ghonaim: sudo chown -R ghonaim:ghonaim .cache
[00:03] <k1l_> ghonaim: and after that do yourself a favor and dont run gui programs as root or with sudo anymore
[00:04] <ghonaim> ok
[00:04] <ghonaim> but its still not running
[00:05] <ghonaim> and i only run bitnami as sudo
[00:06] <martin3> is there a separate setting for log in screen resolution?
[00:06] <talus46> greetings
[00:07] <k1l_> ghonaim: "sudo chown -R ghonaim:ghonaim /home/ghonaim"
[00:07] <ghonaim> ok
[00:08] <syntaks> here's an interesting one
[00:08] <ghonaim> still same error
[00:08] <syntaks> dmidecode shows 8 cores, 8 enabled, 16 threads
[00:08] <k1l_> ghonaim: make sure there is no typo.
[00:08] <syntaks>  /proc/cpuinfo shows 1 core
[00:09] <ghonaim> i copy
[00:09] <ghonaim> and in case -r was small i made it capital letter
[00:09] <ghonaim> no more change
[00:09] <syntaks> dmidecode also shows 32 gigs, 4 sticks of 8, yet free -m shows 16 total
[00:09] <Bashing-om> martin3: Yes, see the file /etc/default/grub .
[00:09] <syntaks> has anyone else witnessed this? perhaps a bug?
[00:10] <k1l_> ghonaim: what happend before this started?
[00:10] <ghonaim> what i think that maybe the os was shut down when firefox and bunch of terminals were opened
[00:11] <ghonaim> not more
[00:11] <ghonaim> i use sudo only for 2 things 1- to paste in bitnami folders and to run bitnami stack
[00:11] <martin3> Bashing-om I am talking X login screen
[00:11] <martin3> it is using low resolution for some reason, 800x600 i think. and after I log in it uses resolution I've set in Displays
[00:11] <k1l_> ghonaim: does "firefox -safe-mode " work?
[00:12] <ghonaim> same error
[00:12] <k1l_> ghonaim: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:13] <Bashing-om> martin3: Until the GUI is started .. grub controls resolution .
[00:13] <ghonaim> http://termbin.com/6rxp
[00:14] <k1l_> ghonaim: "mount | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:15] <ghonaim> http://termbin.com/v6lo
[00:20] <k1l_> ghonaim: ls -al ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:20] <k1l_> ghonaim: i cant spot a hardware issue or a mounting issue.
[00:22] <k1l_> ghonaim: i cant spot a hardware issue or a mounting issue.
[00:22] <k1l_> ghonaim: ls -al ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:23] <user__> guys can someone help me with then ext thing: I have a desktop PC with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS install and it restarted with no reason. Why did this happen? Was I hacked?
[00:23] <gpio> [    6.850491] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[00:24] <ghonaim> http://termbin.com/1ahz
[00:24] <rochlock> is there a way to add a windows install from within an extended partition to grub?
[00:24] <k1l_> ghonaim: hmmm. maybe try a reboot. i dont know then. the file permissions are ok.
[00:25] <minimec> rochlock: 'sudo update-grub' should do the trick...
[00:25] <ghonaim> I made multiple reboots
[00:25] <ghonaim> already before i come here
[00:25] <rochlock> @minimec did that, it's only displaying the other windows primary partition
[00:25] <k1l_> ghonaim: we fixed the file permissions, did you reboot since?
[00:26] <ghonaim> let me reboot
[00:26] <Latrina> Hello people good evening. How can I move wireless, battery, sound applets into dash to dock in gnome-shell?
[00:27] <Latrina> like this https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jderose9/dash-to-panel/master/media/screenshot.png
[00:27] <minimec> rochlock: I can'ts really help you further. Don't have any windows partitions anymore...
[00:27] <rochlock> i wish i didn't, but ableton doesn't work on wine :( thanks a bunch
[00:27] <k1l_> Latrina: install the shell-extension and then activate it in the tweak tool
[00:28] <ghonaim> same issue
[00:28] <k1l_> Latrina: i guess the screenshot is made the panel to the bottom
[00:28] <k1l_> ghonaim: this is a vm?
[00:28] <ghonaim> yes
[00:29] <ghonaim> VMware
[00:30] <user__> hellow?
[00:30] <Latrina> k1l_, let me try it thanks
[00:30] <OerHeks> vmware .. not worth mentioning with your strange issue...
[00:30] <k1l_> ghonaim: i dont know, that error doesnt make sense
[00:31] <k1l_> ghonaim: this is an old error, but is long fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1180227
[00:32] <ghonaim> do you recommend to upgrade the firefox ?
[00:32] <Latrina> k1l_, I cant seem to find it under that name
[00:32] <k1l_> ghonaim: run "apt-cache policy firefox | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:33] <ghonaim> http://termbin.com/b9y5
[00:34] <k1l_> ghonaim: yes, please run the updates
[00:34] <ghonaim> OK , so could you tell me how
[00:35] <k1l_> ghonaim: i guess you miss all update since install? run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[00:35] <ghonaim> ok boss
[00:36] <martin3> Bashing-om changing grub res to 1920x1200 seems to have helped
[00:36] <martin3> cheers
[00:38] <k1l_> ghonaim: if that huge version bump still doesnt help, then use "firefox -ProfileManager" to make a new profile
[00:39] <Bashing-om> martin3: :) Good Deal .
[00:39] <wellick> which irc cliente do you guys recomend for ubuntu?
[00:39] <wellick> *client
[00:39] <k1l_> wellick: start with hexchat
[00:39] <talus46> irssi
[00:42] <wellick> thanks
[00:42] <p_h> wellick, i like bitchx
[00:46] <kucubung> q
[00:48] <JonelethIrenicus> is it possible to power down a mechanical hard drive in a laptop to save power?
[00:48] <wellick> p_h: i used adiirc on windows, it was fine
[00:48] <p_h> here's a sshot of what it looks like: http://imgur.com/CEhinY6
[00:48] <JonelethIrenicus> or is that a waste of time?
[00:48] <user__> guys yesterday my pc restarted with no reason, why can this happen?
[00:48] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: power outage
[00:49] <k1l_> JonelethIrenicus: the spinup costs a lot of power
[00:50] <wellick> p_h: seems ok, i want something simple and lightweight
[00:50] <p_h> wellick i hear ya
[00:52] <YankDownUnder> There should be some direct settings in most BIOS for that - and as well, most of the "desktop environments" have options in their energy saving settings to deal with HDD's...not as specific, but close.
[00:53] <YankDownUnder> One can also use hdparm - to tune the settings of the hdd
[00:58] <triarii> can somebody help me with cmake? I'm able to make a target but can't run it "cannot execute binary file" thanks
[00:58] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: you mean my power supply is inssuficient?
[00:59] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: no i mean maybe your power went out
[01:01] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: mmm that the problem and because I have the doubt, the power disnt went out it was all the time on
[01:01] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: what other reason may be causing this? can it be something related with hacking_
[01:01] <user__> ?
[01:01] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: what other reason may be causing this? can it be something related with hacking?
[01:02] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: sure but i doubt it
[01:06] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: why do you doubt it? I want to learn?. What other casue could produce this?
[01:07] <ghonaim> ok i used the update and upgrade command and still issue exist
[01:07] <cyberspectre> Can someone tell me a command I can use to rename a batch of files replacing whatever comes after a specific word? For instance if the file is called testfile-6-ubuntu, it renames to testfile-6.
[01:07] <YankDownUnder> user__: The NSA.
[01:08] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: lol ok. So can it be something with the capacitors of my motherboard or something like that?. If its so I want to take the PC to the store where I bought
[01:08] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: lol ok. So can it be something with the capacitors of my motherboard or something like that?. If its so I want to take the PC to the store where I bought it
[01:08] <nonick> I would register but I don't know how
[01:09] <JonelethIrenicus> if the system shut off then it wouldn't turn back on in most cases
[01:09] <JonelethIrenicus> usually only server machines do that
[01:09] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: ^
[01:09] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: rename 's/-ubuntu$//' testfile-*-ubuntu

[01:10] <Bashing-om> !register | nonick
[01:10] <nonick> on my other partition, I upgraded xubuntu to 16.10 and I got the 'ethernet devices not managed' message at the top right and I managed to get something there but it doesn't look right
[01:11] <nonick> okay, I'll try it after getting help?
[01:11] <nonick> I just wonder if I did something wrong
[01:12] <nonick> it doesn't look like my other ubuntu settings
[01:13] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: perfect. So you thin kthe restart was a momentaneous electricity shutdown?
[01:13] <JonelethIrenicus> well did your pc get shut off or did it restart or did the screen just lock?
[01:13] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: ^
[01:14] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, thank you... sorry, but what about if the file is just called ubuntu-xxxxx and you just want to remove everything after ubuntu-?
[01:15] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: are you messing with me :(?
[01:15] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: no
[01:16] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: did your pc get shut off or did it restart or did the screen just lock?
[01:16] <ghonaim> hi guys the issue still there after i upgraded the system as per your recommendation
[01:16] <ghonaim> what shall i do i am helpless without a browser
[01:17] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: so you dont really know why this sudden restart happen? or help me to know what could provocate it?
[01:18] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: you really should answer the question if you want help.  I want to make sure you know what happen.
[01:18] <JonelethIrenicus> what were you doing, what happened.
[01:19] <Duckle> man bluetooth is borked in ubuntu
[01:20] <Duckle> Finally got this pair of QC35 working.
[01:22] <JustCurious> Hello, I have a problem with a Seagate Backup Plus (external HD). It's exfat formatted (on Windows 7). It's plug and play and it's automatically mounted on Ubuntu Mate 17.04, but on Ubuntu 12.04 it's not detected, althoug it's shown in lsusb as Bus 003 Device 008: ID 0bc2:ab28 Seagate RSS LLC
[01:23] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: mmm sorry I dont understand. I already told you that the power didnt went down and nothing strange happened. It just restarted for no reason...
[01:24] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: you realize the difference between you computer suddenly showing the bios screen and your operating system shutting down and rebooting right?
[01:25] <JustCurious> My Seagate ext HD is automatically mounted on Ubuntu Mate 17.04, why isn't on Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:25] <JustCurious> it's exfat
[01:25] <JustCurious> :-|
[01:26]  * p_h is away, 10 minute autoaway (l!on) : os/bx
[01:26] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: certainly but it didnt show the Bios screen it just rebooted...and appeared the classical Ubuntu login
[01:27] <JonelethIrenicus> sounds more like a crash
[01:27] <JonelethIrenicus> that isn't technically rebooting either
[01:27] <JustCurious> dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24351888/
[01:27] <JonelethIrenicus> the devil is in the details
[01:28] <OerHeks> JustCurious, for 14.04 it is: sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils # and remount the drive again
[01:28] <JustCurious> OerHeks thanks for the reply, I've already installed those two packets
[01:28] <OerHeks> 12.04 ... ends April 28, 2017
[01:29] <JustCurious> but it's 10
[01:29] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: that why I have the doubt. Well I obviosly know less than you, that why Im asking here...
[01:30] <JustCurious> and plus, I am not sure it will work on 14.04, are you?
[01:32] <ivan> JustCurious: check dmesg and /var/log/messages
[01:32] <ivan> oh you already did
[01:33] <ivan> JustCurious: that might be a hardware problem with the USB host on the 12.04 machine
[01:33] <JustCurious> yes
[01:33] <JustCurious> i am afraid
[01:33] <malv> which community has more assholes, debian or centos?
[01:33] <JustCurious> but how can i fix
[01:34] <ivan> !support | malv
[01:34] <ivan> oops wrong !
[01:34] <ivan> !offtopic
[01:34] <ivan> JustCurious: "try a different motherboard" :/
[01:35] <malv> I think I have lost faith in Ubuntu. Which distro should I try next?
[01:35] <malv> I need support
[01:35] <ivan> malv: Debian seems most similar
[01:35] <malv> is their community full of lefties?
[01:35] <ivan> CentOS has a much longer LTS cycle
[01:35] <JustCurious> ivan, in my laptop it works
[01:35] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, thanks, got it. :)
[01:35] <JustCurious> on ubuntu mate 17.04
[01:36] <JonelethIrenicus> user__: i honestly wouldn't worry about it unless it happens a few times
[01:36] <ivan> I strip my external drives and put them into eSATA docks to avoid problems with both USB hosts and the (sometimes flaky) USB chips on the drives
[01:39] <user__> JonelethIrenicus: perfect, I though maybe someone installed a malware on  my pc and needed the reboot for a successful installation
[01:39] <JustCurious> it may be an exfat issue too
[01:39] <ivan> JustCurious: maybe your drive just wants more power than your computer is supplying
[01:39] <malv> is there any advantages to using ubuntu over debian?
[01:39] <malv> now that unity is no more?
[01:40] <ivan> key message is [ 1852.863145] usb 3-5: USB disconnect, device number 6
[01:40] <JustCurious> hmmm
[01:40] <ivan> malv: predictable LTS cycle
[01:40] <ivan> the Ubuntu PPA ecosystem
[01:47] <seljkwfsxrdfvjk> Ubuntu sucks
[01:47] <malv> ^
[01:49] <OerHeks> seljkwfsxrdfvjk, you are the 1st saying that.
[02:03] <martin3> what is up with this, webapp-container, that is in my Downloads directory, that I don't recall downloading 15 minutes ago, caused several crashes already
[02:03] <martin3> I did install google chrome though, did it ship with it perhaps?
[02:13] <matt__> hi
[02:13] <matt__> anyone on
[02:14] <PipeItToDevNull> Yep
[02:14] <matt__> should i install ubuntu as duel boot ith a pendrive
[02:15] <matt__> should i
[02:15] <talus46> duel boot sound right ! let me know who wins
[02:16] <matt__> im going to use ubuntu 15.04
[02:17] <ivan> why would you use a version for which support has ended
[02:17] <Bashing-om> !15.04 | matt__
[02:19] <matt__> yes 15.04
[02:19] <matt__> how bout i install 15.04 and then upgrade it since i have the iso
[02:20] <ivan> how about just installing LTS instead of going through two upgrades
[02:21] <matt__> you mean sraight up installing the 16.04 iso
[02:21] <ivan> yes
[02:22] <matt__> should i download e 16.04 iso and burn it to usb
[02:22] <matt__> sorry ivan didnt read what you put
[02:24] <ivan> matt__: probably
[02:33]  * p_h is away, 10 minute autoaway (l!on) : os/bx
[02:39] <jak2017> hi all
[02:39] <jak2017> cant do an update to system, https://pastebin.com/CWNMy5J9   any advice? why not?
[02:41] <OerHeks> jak2017, jessie, ask in #debian ??
[02:43] <PipeItToDevNull> jak2017, http://askubuntu.com/questions/613045/udev-problem-after-updating-to-ubuntu-15-04
[02:44] <jak2017> OerHeks not answer any advice?
[02:45] <dax> jak2017: unfortunately, we don't do Debian support, regardless of whether #debian helps you. Please be patient in there instead.
[02:45] <jak2017> ok
[02:47] <OerHeks> K20GlassFish_swItsol script surely is causing problems, but unknown in ubuntu.
[02:50] <YankDownUnder> Ubuntu *never* has problems. NEVER. Ever.
[02:53] <OerHeks> it is boring good.
[02:53] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: True ,, but I have sure caused ubuntu problems ! lways my fault :)
[02:53] <witeshark43> .part
[02:54] <YankDownUnder> Bashing-om: Every issue I've had - same as you - has been P.E.B.C.A.K. related - or ID10T related...(still me)
[02:54] <ballpen> unity is going away!!!!!!!!!!!! is that true????
[02:54] <OerHeks> FlightGear 2017.1.3 — Released April 4, 2017
[02:54] <YankDownUnder> ballpen: Gnome3 across the board.
[02:56] <ballpen> oh man why lol unity is what makes ubuntu look like ubuntu now lol
[02:56] <ballpen> and gnome3! yuk
[02:59] <YankDownUnder> ballpen: Gnome and KDE have held "top spots" for ages...Unity has tried to break into the "top spots", but has never really made it. A vast majority of users (seasoned) end up using Gnome or KDE or XFce or LxDE or WindowMaker (or something else)...so it's not necessarily holding it's "place". "Branding" is important, yes, but it's just not really worked out that well. Gnome3 has "busted a move" and it's easier to get customised.
[02:59] <YankDownUnder> Does that make sense?
[03:00] <ballpen> YankDownUnder: yeah I understand but they should never give up on unity :)
[03:01] <ballpen> are they going to continue the developement though?
[03:01] <YankDownUnder> ballpen: Get the source code and make your own "fork" of it, eh? Just like with all the other "Big Boys" - Gnome's got forks, KDE's got forks...
[03:02] <YankDownUnder> Maybe someday, "Unity" will be the "Trinity" of the GTK world, yay! ;)
[03:03] <ballpen> YankDownUnder: that sounds reasonable lol
[03:03] <YankDownUnder> ballpen: Imagine how much money/time/effort Canonical can save merely by swapping out to Gnome3...they can spend more time/money/effort on other things...eh? Yeah...
[03:05] <ballpen> YankDownUnder: other things such as?
[03:05] <YankDownUnder> ballpen: R&D into new markets...concentrate more on corporate support...etc etc etc...
[03:06] <YankDownUnder> (Bigger salaries for the top dogs...)
[03:06] <martin3> gimp by default can't open raw file from a camera released in 2014. did I forget to install some additional packages or?
[03:07] <YankDownUnder> martin3: There does exist that possibility, hmm...
[03:08] <YankDownUnder> martin3: sudo apt-get install gimp-ufraw
[03:08] <ballpen> assault cube anyone????
[03:14] <martin3> YankDownUnder I just installed ufraw but I still can't open them
[03:15] <YankDownUnder> martin3: Then try: sudo apt-get install gimp-dcraw
[03:15] <YankDownUnder> martin3: Those are the two "external" plug-ins for dealing with RAW image formats for GIMP...
[03:16] <martin3> i just restarted and it worked
[03:17] <martin3> not sure which plugin did it (I installed both), but i can open them now
[03:17] <YankDownUnder> martin3: Good thing you're buying the donuts today.
[03:17] <martin3> sure =). just thanks until then
[03:18] <YankDownUnder> martin3: I like plain donuts. Vegetarian and Vegan.  I strongly suggest fixing it immediately.
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[03:35] <Ben64> doesn't even have the proper character encoding
[03:35] <dax> darthho0: no
[03:35] <CrazyTux> hello, I am getting an error message when I try to update the OS.
[03:36] <CrazyTux> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https// could not be found.
[03:36] <CrazyTux> E: Failed to fetch https//://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/dists/stable/InRelease
[03:36] <CrazyTux> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:36] <ballpen> dax: youtube comment mode lol
[03:36] <CrazyTux> could anybody help me in sorting this out?
[03:36] <dax> CrazyTux: you have a typo in either /etc/apt/sources.list or one of the files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d.
[03:36] <dax> CrazyTux: specifically, somewhere in there is https//:// instead of https://
[03:37] <dax> fix, run sudo apt update, try again
[03:37] <darthho0> anyone know about virtualbox and fullscreen not being able to because unity side panel?
[03:37] <CrazyTux> I am a newbie. Please suggest a solution for this.
[03:37] <ballpen> darthho0: what??
[03:37] <CrazyTux> everytime I run the command I get the same error.
[03:37] <ballpen> CrazyTux: dax Just did it
[03:37] <darthho0> virtualbox host+f to get into fullscreen won't completely go because of the unity side panel ballpen
[03:38] <ballpen> darthho0: you need to install guest additions then
[03:38] <CrazyTux> dax, getting the same message.
[03:38] <darthho0> ballpen: i did install guest additions... i'm saying my host os won't let the virtual go fullscreen
[03:38] <dax> then you didn't fix it.
[03:39] <dax> The second and third lines are literally it complaining about a typo in one of those two places I listed
[03:39] <ballpen> darthho0: ah I see
[03:39] <CrazyTux> dax, what should I do?
[03:39] <ballpen> CrazyTux: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <p_h> CrazyTux: try running: grep -ri 'https//://' /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:39] <ballpen> in pastebin or something
[03:40] <mikazuki> hi
[03:40] <ballpen> darthho0: well I don't know mate I use mint and it works fine over here
[03:40] <darthho0> ballpen: must be nice :)
[03:40] <ballpen> darthho0: in fact I never even thought about it lol
[03:40] <ballpen> yeah man how to hide that side panel??
[03:41] <ballpen> darthho0: yeah cinnamon is cool apart from that it is just ubuntu
[03:41] <mikazuki> i like cinnamon
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[03:42] <user__>                                                                             ]�C�r�qu#!jI���d������nҙ�*�A?H��y83LUѸv�,��9
[03:43] <CrazyTux> dax, how can I paste it?
[03:43] <ballpen> lmao
[03:43] <ballpen> CrazyTux: use pastebin
[03:43] <ballpen> or ubuntu paste
[03:43] <CrazyTux> dax, do I have to key in any command in terminal to  get that list?
[03:43] <ballpen> or whatever
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[03:44] <CrazyTux> or shall I check that in that folder?
[03:44] <CrazyTux> ballpen, there is a folder by name  '/etc/apt/sources.list.d'.
[03:44] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13410#comment:4 => a fix for Unity (you can also consider changing to a different desktop - other than Unity...like Mate, or Cinnamon...or whatever)
[03:44] <p_h> CrazyTux: just run "grep -ri 'https//://' /etc/apt" to find the bad file
[03:44] <CrazyTux> I am relatively new. plz help me.
[03:45] <ballpen> its not a folder comrade but a text file
[03:45] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: Ooops...sorry...you're not the person having Virtualbox issues...
[03:45] <ballpen> YankDownUnder: darthho0 asked that comrade :)
[03:45] <YankDownUnder> ballpen: Yeah... darthho0 => https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13410#comment:4
[03:45] <darthho0> It works now
[03:46] <darthho0> thanks
[03:46] <CrazyTux> p_h, that command doesn't give any result.
[03:47] <passerk> which one?
[03:47] <CrazyTux> grep -ri 'https//://' /etc/apt
[03:48] <p_h> hmm, do an ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:48] <p_h> do you see an opera.list or equivalent file in there?
[03:49] <CrazyTux> opera-stable.list
[03:49] <CrazyTux> opera-stable.list.save
[03:50] <p_h> try cat /etc/apt/sources/list.d/opera-stable.list | pastebinit
[03:50] <p_h> and share the link
[03:51] <p_h> sorry had a typo, it's: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list | pastebinit
[03:52] <CrazyTux> p_h, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24352477/
[03:53] <p_h> found that sucker
[03:53] <CrazyTux> p_h, what?
[03:53] <p_h> there's a typo on line 4, should be https:// not https//:
[03:53] <CrazyTux> what should I do now?
[03:55] <CrazyTux> p_h, I need to edit those two files, I guess.
[03:55] <p_h> yeah
[03:55] <CrazyTux> p_h, how?
[03:55] <p_h> you could run this also: sed -i 's/https\/\/:/https:\/\//g' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
[03:55] <p_h> then try the update command again
[03:56] <p_h> to edit a file you can use: nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
[03:56] <p_h> for future ref
[03:57] <ballpen> p_h: or vi :D
[03:57] <p_h> yeah i use vim personally :)
[03:57] <p_h> i figured would be too advance
[04:00] <CrazyTux> guys, thanks a lot. I am not getting that error message now.
[04:01] <p_h> great, anytime
[04:01] <CrazyTux> thanks a lot..
[04:01] <CrazyTux> guys, have a great day..
[04:08] <dirk-hardpeck> I take it I missed the Unity-dropping discussion?
[04:09] <singam> give this app FULL STAR its my new APp https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snagout.snagout&hl=en
[04:09] <singam> give this app FULL STAR https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snagout.snagout&hl=en
[04:09] <singam> GIVE THIS APP FULL STAR NOW https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snagout.snagout&hl=en
[04:09] <Ben64> no
[04:09] <tekisui> i don´t trust google
[04:09] <singam> fuck u teksui i dont trust u
[04:09] <singam> GIVE THIS APP FULL STAR NOW https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snagout.snagout&hl=en
[04:10] <dirk-hardpeck> Anyway
[04:14] <dirk-hardpeck> Pardon my ignorance, but does this mean Unity will die with 16.04, or are there hints that the community will pull a MATE and fork it?
[04:15] <Ben64> fork already happening
[04:15] <YankDownUnder> dirk-hardpeck: There are some of us that think that Unity died in the first week of it's existence...however, I digress...
[04:16] <Bashing-om> dirk-hardpeck: Join the discussion: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2357743 .
[04:18] <dirk-hardpeck> I thought I heard rumblings of that, Ben.
[04:18] <dirk-hardpeck> What makes you say that, Yank?
[04:19] <dirk-hardpeck> I should probably warn you, 16.04 was still on the horizon when I got started with Linux.
[04:19] <YankDownUnder> dirk-hardpeck: "Back in the day" - Unity did NOT really receive a great "welcome" to the scene...and because Canonical "forced" it, it pushed many away to the other desktops - KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, XFce, yadda yadda yadda...
[04:20] <skits> I wish i would have stuck with nix back in the 90's. I missed a lot waiting to rejoin so late.
[04:22] <YankDownUnder> I'll stick to XFce and WindowMaker (and occassionally Enlightenment)...they're light...and extremely "cozy and familiar"...(Olvwm's code base looks sucky...can't use that anymore...)
[04:22] <dirk-hardpeck> What seems interesting to me, though, is that despite the fact that people were as upset as they were about being 'forced' into a desktop (GNOME2 to Unity), Canonical seems to be doing the same thing again in reverse.
[04:23] <dirk-hardpeck> Granted, I use MATE, so I don't exactly have a horse in the race either way.
[04:23] <YankDownUnder> dirk-hardpeck: Yes...and this shall be quite interesting...from an external perspective...oh yes...(better than television)
[04:23] <dirk-hardpeck> A burning world looks beautiful from space.
[04:23] <dirk-hardpeck> Or something like that.
[04:24] <ballpen> lol
[04:25] <YankDownUnder> dirk-hardpeck: I like that analogy. Going to have to steal it and use it, mate. Love that...love that...
[04:25] <dirk-hardpeck> Go for it! lol
[04:26] <dirk-hardpeck> I just made it up, so that's cool with me.
[04:26] <YankDownUnder> I shall plagiarise with honour.
[04:27] <dirk-hardpeck> You know what else is interesting, is that the decision to switch away from it almost seems as polarizing as the decision to switch to it.
[04:30] <dirk-hardpeck> Not quite as much, I guess, but still.
[04:33] <dirk-hardpeck> So Yank, how'd you get into Linux? Or is this the wrong channel for that kind of discussion?
[04:35] <newbee__> всем привет
[04:35] <newbee__> есть кто по русски говорит?
[04:36] <YankDownUnder> dirk-hardpeck: I did unix and xenix stuff in the 80's. Linux came into my "life" when I wanted to move my BBS from OS/2 to something *NOT* MS based. Ergo, I got into linux.
[04:36] <dirk-hardpeck> У меня Google Translate.
[04:37] <dax> newbee__: /join #ubuntu-ru for Russian-language support
[04:37] <syntaks> yeap
[04:37] <syntaks> to hell with ryzen
[04:37] <syntaks> this is way too unstable
[04:38] <newbee__> i have some troube with apache
[04:38] <dirk-hardpeck> Good times, Yank!
[04:38] <heywood> hi all. just ran into an odd problem on 16.04.2 LTS. trying to launch an audio streamer (sudo /usr/bin/darkice). the strace output includes the following:
[04:39] <heywood> stat("/home/heywood", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
[04:39] <heywood> getuid()
[04:39] <heywood> write(2, "Home directory not accessible: P"..., 49Home directory not accessible:
[04:39] <heywood>  Permission denied
[04:39] <heywood> ) = 49
[04:39] <heywood> what gives??? how can /home/(anything) be inaccessible via sudo?
[04:41] <dirk-hardpeck> I hate to ask a stupid question, but you're running as a user with the correct privileges, right, Heywood?
[04:41] <p_h> what happens when you run it without sudo?
[04:43] <heywood> dirk-hardpeck: hmmm, not sure. how would i check what privileges i'm running under? touch foo.txt && ls -la foo.txt ?
[04:43] <heywood> p_h: if you run darkice as non-root, you get the warning "Could not set POSIX real-time scheduling, this may cause recording skips. Try to run darkice as the super-user."
[04:44] <p_h> i see
[04:45] <heywood> dirk-hardpeck: default umask for my (non-root) account is 0002, if that's at all relevant.
[04:45] <heywood> and for root it's 0022 on this machine.
[04:46] <p_h> you can fix any bad permissions in your home directory by: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/
[04:46] <p_h> then try running darkice again
[04:46] <cytron> yea
[04:47] <uxfi> hey heywood
[04:48] <heywood> p_h: no joy. sudo darkice still spits out "Home directory not accessible: Permission denied" ...
[04:48] <dirk-hardpeck> Have you tried rebooting?
[04:48] <p_h> what if you do sudo su first, then run darkice as root
[04:49] <heywood> dirk-hardpeck: yes. didn't help.
[04:49] <heywood> p_h:	sudo su, then running from the root prompt (#), does NOT produce this error. so it's definitely a permissions thing.
[04:50] <p_h> hmm
[04:50] <p_h> that chown command should have fixed the permissions
[04:51] <heywood> and if no config file is explicitly specified from the commandline, darkice defaults to /etc/darkice.cfg — which (1) exists, and (2) doesn't have anything in it about a home directory.
[04:51] <p_h> interesting
[04:51] <dirk-hardpeck> And you've tried Google, I assume?
[04:52] <heywood> hrm. just noticed that 16.04.2 LTS ships out of the box with darkice 1.2, but darkice.org says 1.3 is the latest. trying to compile the newer version now.
[04:56] <tonA> anyone how to monitor their system to prevent. shellshock or any attack on a public network?
[05:06] <talus46> greetings , does anyone know if there's an oficial ubuntu package with vim 8 ?
[05:10] <p_h> talus46: you can grab it via a PPA, search google for "vim 8 ppa"
[05:10] <tonA> anyone how to monitor their system to prevent. shellshock or any attack on a public network?
[05:10] <dax> talus46: not in stable ubuntu, no. the next version (17.04, due later this month) will have it
[05:10] <dax> talus46: (PPAs aren't official)
[05:10] <talus46> thanks :)
[05:10] <tonA> anyone knows how to monitor their system to prevent. shellshock or any attack on a public network?
[05:10] <p_h> ^
[05:11] <talus46> thank you dax and p_h , I'll install it from source then :)
[05:11] <p_h> best way
[05:11] <talus46> well is a production server so the important thing is to get it from a trusted source
[05:12] <tonA> any idea on a best network security ?
[05:13] <p_h> you should be fine with shellshock if you're running latest bash or a patched version
[05:13] <p_h> wireshark to monitor network
[05:13] <tonA> thanks p_h
[05:14] <p_h> np
[05:14] <talus46> or vpn is you don't want people sniffing your packets tonA
[05:14] <p_h> ^
[05:14] <tonA> cool..i usually use htop to monitor my box. it makes me paranoid sometime .
[05:15] <dirk-hardpeck> I assume you've also heard of Tor?
[05:15] <tonA> yea..
[05:15] <talus46> great browser dirk-hardpeck
[05:16]  * dax cringes
[05:16] <tonA> but i mean when you are on a public network .how to prevent someone remotely connecting to your box via telnet or ssh
[05:16] <talus46> tonA: best way is to stop those services
[05:17] <dirk-hardpeck> Well, Telnet should probably be turned off in general.
[05:17] <tonA> i think to rout your entire box with a vpn will be the best idea
[05:17] <p_h> turn off passwords for ssh, use obscure port, use pub/private keys
[05:17] <talus46> but if you need ssh open at least set it to use  pub key auth
[05:17] <tonA> cool thanks
[05:18] <p_h> you can use the nmap tool to scan your box for open ports
[05:18] <tonA> anything new you will like to share
[05:18] <p_h> limit those
[05:19] <talus46> tonA: and if you are realy paranoid about security you should probably have a kali linux box just to test for vulnerabilities
[05:20] <p_h> and take pride that we are all vulnerable to the same zero-days ;)
[05:20] <talus46> :))
[05:21] <heywood> dirk-hardpeck: p_h: blech. compiling darkice 1.3 isn't quite trivial — i'm missing some dependencies, and too tired to sort it out now. i'll post to darkice user forum tomorrow to see if that "permission denied" error is a known issue. for now i launched the old working version as root with nohup, so it'll still run.
[05:21] <heywood> thanks for the troubleshooting ideas.
[05:22] <p_h> right on man, np
[05:22] <dirk-hardpeck> No problem!
[05:22] <dirk-hardpeck> http://askubuntu.com/questions/338382/pulseaudio-not-working-home-directory-not-accessible-permission-denied I did find this, but it's a bit old.
[05:26] <talus46> I really want to try that duel boot
[05:26] <talus46> linux vs osx
[05:27] <dirk-hardpeck> I wish I had the money for that. lol
[05:27] <talus46> and the winner will have to face windows 10
[05:28] <tonA> linux
[05:29] <tonA> u should try the dual boot. its cool
[05:30] <talus46> I have tat already , but DUEL BOOT ! Man that's the future
[05:30] <talus46> in the end it Can be only one
[05:30] <tonA> yeah.. but u can switch anytime
[05:31] <talus46> that's cheating in DUEL boot
[05:31] <talus46> no switch
[05:32] <tonA> u can even have 3 OS Sitting on your box
[05:32] <talus46> ;)
[05:32] <tonA> what about the live usb
[05:35] <Anonaly> hi, I was running Xubuntu 12.04, but I looked up online how to perform an upgrade to 14.04, and then perform another upgrade to 16.04,
[05:35] <Anonaly> Everything appears to be working fine, except when I do sudo apt-get update, it sticks at 0%,
[05:36] <Anonaly> I have another computer with Xubuntu 16.04, is it safe to copy over the respositories manually to the upgraded computer ? because the upgraded computer appears to not have any "additional software" repositories ..
[05:36] <tonA> ok ..i suggest u restart your box with the command init 6 and sudo update it again
[05:43] <Anonaly> ok I noticed when I compare the "trusted software providers" section in my repositories, they are different
[05:43] <Anonaly> the stock 16.04 has more than the upgraded version
[05:44] <Anonaly> I have added extra software packes to the stock Ubuntu 16.04, could this be from those ?
[05:46] <beginner> i'm every boot up typed "gnome-keying-daemon &" on terminal after delete KDE & unity8
[05:46] <tonA> did you run it through your su terminal#
[05:47] <tonA> ones you upgrade in your terminal u should be fine
[05:47] <rud0lf> good morning :)
[05:47] <beginner> how to upgrade??
[05:51] <tonA> sudo apt-get upgrade.
[05:53] <tonA> questions about installation ,upgrade, any useful command line check it out on google.
[05:53] <beginner> @tonA thankyou
[05:53] <tonA> u welcome .
[05:56] <BlitzerHound> What's a good antivirus for ubuntu?
[05:57] <MustaKrakish> clamav
[05:57] <BlitzerHound> can I just apt-get that?
[05:57] <MustaKrakish> BlitzerHound, but you dont really need one
[05:57] <MustaKrakish> apt search for it
[05:57] <warriore> hi henlo newbie-ish question i guess, how do i get my iphone 4 to recognize so i can put music on it :@
[05:57] <warriore> ive tried everything and i'm at my wits end
[05:57] <BlitzerHound> Oh. But shouldn't I still use one? I don't know much about ubuntu still, it's rather new to me. I've been using it for maybe a few weeks lol
[05:57] <warriore> you don't need AV for linux
[05:57] <tonA> linux users use antivirus?
[05:58] <warriore> some do
[05:58] <warriore> it's handy if you have a windows drive
[05:58] <tonA> u don't have to use antivirus
[05:58] <warriore> have a linux thumb drive then run it on the drive if its fucked
[05:58] <tonA> windows u need antivirus but linux i dont think u do
[05:58] <warriore> correct
[05:58] <MustaKrakish> BlitzerHound, you don't need one unless you are worried about your windows partitions
[05:59] <warriore> ive been using linux for 14 years and the only thing i've had close to an issue is a browserkit
[05:59] <BlitzerHound> Nah I don't have windows partitions.
[05:59] <warriore> then you're good
[05:59] <BlitzerHound> Awesome. That's... really surprising lol.
[06:00] <hateball> !virus
[06:00] <tonA> try to upgrade and it will fix stuff for you and you can even locate files that do not belong to your box and kill them
[06:02] <tonA> if u ever get scared of virus and u don't know your way around your box.try ubuntu live.
[06:02] <BlitzerHound> Wait, so wine doesn't count as windows partition right?
[06:03] <BlitzerHound> 'cause I use wine
[06:03] <rud0lf> don't use too much, you're gonna have a hangover
[06:04] <p_high> BlitzerHound: nope, check out: https://www.winehq.org/about
[06:04] <warriore> im like 80% sure it doesnt count
[06:04] <BlitzerHound> Awesome, I'll check that out rn
[06:04] <BlitzerHound> Also lol @rud0lf
[06:05] <rud0lf> windows partition as in physical partition on disk? nope
[06:05] <BlitzerHound> Because I'm trying to get this program called Cain which I guess works with IPs and stuff. But I think I found a better program (that I hope has the same function) called wireshark.
[06:06] <BlitzerHound> But it keeps telling me not to trust the website that you download it from.
[06:06] <rud0lf> wine makes a directory and makes windows programs think it's a partition
[06:06] <warriore> wireshark is pretty good
[06:06] <rud0lf> what do you mean "works with ips"? what sort of functionality do you seek?
[06:06] <BlitzerHound> I'm trying to be able to pull IPs while I'm gaming
[06:07] <warriore> you've checked to make sure the games youre playing are compatible on linux right
[06:07] <BlitzerHound> Well, I'm trying to do it from the xbox
[06:07] <warriore> AH ok
[06:07] <warriore> that i cant help with
[06:07] <BlitzerHound> Yeah, I'm looking up tutorials on my own
[06:07] <warriore> i just wanted to make sure you knew linux isnt like 100% there when it comes to gaming
[06:08] <BlitzerHound> Just when I went to this website a bunch of red flags popped up and said I should leave immediately. Got me thinking about antivirus, so I just figured I would ask.
[06:09] <zhanx> is Drone` a bot?
[06:16]  * p_high is away, 10 minute autoaway (l!on) : os/bx
[06:20] <rud0lf> who still uses away announcer?
[06:20] <p_high> yeah didn't really the setting was on
[06:20] <p_high> realize*
[06:20] <rud0lf> :P
[06:21] <p_high> #bash and ##linux let me have it
[06:21] <anddam> default install 16.04 has conflicting desktop entries name, namely "Name=Backups" is present three time, so two are shadowed. Is this a bug at all?
[06:22] <BlitzerHound> c I want to play openarena. No one knows any fixes for the bug with 16.10 do they?
[06:22] <BlitzerHound> Apparently since I have ubuntu 16.10 I can't play it despite having a system that can easily handle it. It just crashes any time I try to join.
[06:36] <kangaroo72> Hi there ... just a little question (to be sure) ... I've created a raid-unit (raid-5) with 15TB and have selected gpt-table
[06:37] <kangaroo72> to format mkfs.ext4 is right - isn't it?
[06:37] <kangaroo72> ('cause it's warning because it's gpt)
[06:37] <p_high> vi ~/.bitchxrc
[06:43] <nhill> What is the default shortcut to the "search" launcher
[06:44] <martyix> Hi, I'm wondering.. do you use snaps? I use apt in my Ubuntu 16.10 and so far I have trouble to even find what snap packages are there as I didn't find a catalogue on a website
[06:48] <CrazyTux> hello, is Budgie DE officially supported by Ubuntu?
[06:48] <CrazyTux> I mean Ubuntu Budgie.
[06:49] <CrazyTux> and is it stable?
[06:51] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: "Budgie" has been known to completely wipe out entire systems, steal passwords and other identity based information, purchase sex toys on eBay and vote for Trump.  LOL..
[06:52] <YankDownUnder> rud0lf: "Sex toys for animals" - hmm...
[06:52] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: I AM JOKING BRO. Sarcasm.
[06:52] <CrazyTux> yes. that's a definite advantage. If you can get them for free.
[06:53] <CrazyTux> YankDownUnder, I know. LOL.
[06:53] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: Give it a go if you feel like experimenting with different desktops. There's also KDE, WindowMaker, XFce, LxDE, Cinnamon, Mate, Gnome3, Enlightenment, i3, IceWM...heaps...
[06:53] <CrazyTux> how many can I use at a time?
[06:54] <CrazyTux> installing many DEs has any drawbacks?
[06:54] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: Well, considering you can only login and see one desktop at a time...(unless you're doing remote...then you can use a different desktop)
[06:54] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: Only drawback: too many choices.
[06:55] <CrazyTux> ok. How can I install Budgie DE?
[06:55] <CrazyTux> entire Budgie DE.
[06:55] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: Check in synaptic - see if it's listed...if it's not, then check through the Ubuntu forums to see who's got the PPA information for it...easy done.
[06:56] <CrazyTux> I have Mate 16.04.2 installed. And Lubuntu Desktop, Xubuntu DE and Gnome installed on this Mate.
[06:56] <CrazyTux> ok
[06:56] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: Like this link: http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/how-to-install-budgie-desktop-in-ubuntu-ppa.html
[06:57] <CrazyTux> ok.
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> Up to you...I have a few...but generally choose to stick with WindowMaker because it's got the smallest footprint and it's, well, ancient.
[06:57] <CrazyTux> what is WindowMaker?
[06:59] <CrazyTux> ok
[06:59] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: It's an ancient window mangler that was based on NeXT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_Maker
[06:59] <CrazyTux> ok
[07:02] <CrazyTux> I did try Solus Budgie once. In VirtualBox
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> It looks "nice"...have to give it a "test" sometime...easy enough to delete/purge/erase/eradicate...
[07:04]  * p_high is away, 10 minute autoaway (l!on) : os/bx
[07:04] <CrazyTux> yes.
[07:05] <CrazyTux> or shall I download Ubuntu Budgie OS itself and try that?
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> CrazyTux: Your call, mate. I use Virtualbox to test lots of things...ain't like it would hurt...then again, I'm me and you're you - we each have different ideas - and that's what makes life great.
[07:07] <CrazyTux> one more question. If I want to run Android app on my laptop, which linux distro is most recommended?
[07:07] <ikonia> CrazyTux: once again - here we go
[07:07] <ikonia> CrazyTux: you've been told 10+ times this channel is for ubuntu support
[07:08] <ikonia> not your CONSTANT distro swapping
[07:08] <CrazyTux> hi ikonia, how are you?
[07:09] <rodrigot23> does anybody her have connection constantly dropping in ubuntu 16.04?
[07:10] <rodrigot23> the wireless connection i meaan*
[07:14] <Duality> how do i disable the armhf repositories ?
[07:14] <Duality> binary-armhf
[07:14] <ikonia> they shouldn't be enabled unless you are on arm
[07:14] <Duality> those are giving me 404
[07:14] <ikonia> what is the URL
[07:14] <Duality> then i don't know how that happend :D
[07:14] <ikonia> are you using arm ?
[07:14] <Duality> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/universe/binary-armhf/Packages
[07:14] <Duality> no arm
[07:14] <Duality> not using arm
[07:14] <ikonia> you're not using arm ?
[07:15] <Duality> running 14.04
[07:15] <ikonia> look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[07:15] <ikonia> and in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:15] <ikonia> I'd be concerned by the state of your system though
[07:16] <Duality> ikonia: there are no repo's in there doing arm
[07:16] <ikonia> Duality: run apt-get update
[07:17] <ikonia> (sudo apt-get update)
[07:17] <ikonia> pastebin the output please
[07:29] <vincenzoml> hello; I don't have either of /etc/rc.local and /etc/init.d/rc.local on ubuntu 17.04; is it a new thing? Is there a preferred way to run scripts on system boot?
[07:29] <ducasse> !zesty | vincenzoml
[07:30] <ducasse> !systemd | vincenzoml also see this
[07:39] <kernelpanic> hi everyone
[07:41] <CrazyTux> hello..
[07:42] <CrazyTux> is ikonia here?
[07:42] <CrazyTux> why did he ban me from this channel?
[07:42] <CrazyTux> I was asking Ubuntu related queries only.
[07:44] <CrazyTux> this is really unfair.
[07:50] <Duality> ikonia: https://pastebin.com/8L1C1z7A
[07:51] <ikonia> Duality: that really suggests the arm arch is enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list or in a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[07:51] <akinode> hey, does anyone have experience with capturing the audio from pulseaudio sink and the video from v4l2loopback device and saving it as an mkv file in some directory?
[07:52] <akinode> I'm using the script for IP Webcam from here: https://github.com/bluezio/ipwebcam-gst/blob/master/prepare-videochat.sh
[07:54] <s10gopal> anyone online ?
[07:54] <skits> Soo, ubuntu 16lts, php(3,5,7,?)-apcu no install available? apt policy says php-apcu is?
[07:55] <ikonia> what ?
[07:55] <s10gopal> what is the meaning of " Capabilities <access denied> " ?
[07:55] <ikonia> could you try to phrase a clear question skits
[07:55] <ikonia> s10gopal: depends what you are doing and where you get that message
[07:56] <s10gopal> i m getting that msg in lspci -v
[07:56] <ikonia> s10gopal: that suggests the user you are running it as does not have access to query the device info to that level
[07:56] <skits> I apologize.  Installing a new install of 16lts (lemp) Up to where I need to install the previously named package php-acpu. It seems it is not available no matter the version I attempt to install. Has this been removed or am I using the wrong syntax for it?
[07:57] <dah85> s10gopal: try sudo in front
[07:57] <ikonia> !info php-acpu
[07:57] <Duality> ikonia: this is my sources.list https://pastebin.com/RpgBDfzp
[07:57] <Duality> and sources.list.d is empty
[07:57] <RyanOrz> Anybody knows why Ubuntu 17.04 doesn't have package "xserver-xorg-video-mga"?
[07:58] <s10gopal> thx
[07:58] <ikonia> RyanOrz: 17.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1 channel
[07:58] <skits> Thank you ikonia
[07:58] <ikonia> Duality: thats very odd
[07:58] <ducasse> skits: there doesn't seem to be any package at all with acpu in the name in the repos, no
[07:58] <RyanOrz> Thank you
[07:59] <ikonia> Duality: there is in universe it would seem,
[07:59] <ikonia> Duality: oops, sorry, not you
[08:00] <skits> xenia or something like that
[08:00] <ducasse> !find acpu
[08:00] <ikonia> looks like it's not something you need in php 7
[08:00] <ikonia> it's a php 5 or earlier component
[08:00] <ikonia> (I'm not up with all the PHP functions)
[08:00] <s10gopal> when i type lspci it gives me this result https://pastebin.com/5D59hV7d it means all are working fine ?
[08:00] <s10gopal> drivers^
[08:01] <skits> I thought so but it was a dependency for another install, I will just try and work around it and inform the package maintainers of the other package.
[08:01] <faugusztin> s10gopal: that is just the list of PCI-E devices
[08:01] <BlitzerHound> Hey I was wondering if someone can help me try to get my microphone working?
[08:01] <s10gopal> but it detects wrong gfx card
[08:01] <s10gopal> mine is m430 , it detect m330
[08:01] <faugusztin> s10gopal: not really
[08:02] <faugusztin> s10gopal: it says what the database has for your PCI ID
[08:02] <dah85> looks like it's only seeing your onboard video
[08:02] <faugusztin> and the different cards have same PCI ID, then they are technically the same cards
[08:02] <faugusztin> just because AMD rebranded them it doesn't make it different from Linux side :)
[08:02] <s10gopal> and i can install drivers made for ubuntu 15 on ubuntu 16 ?
[08:03] <ducasse> s10gopal: you can't install fglrx, no
[08:03] <BlitzerHound> I went on the forums and I found this thing that basically tells everything about my audio (from what I understand, which is very little), so I have that in case it might help.
[08:04] <s10gopal> how to save power using powertop ?
[08:11]  * p_h is away, 10 minute autoaway (l!on) : os/bx
[08:22] <Vold> sup
[08:38] <BlitzerHound> So I was trying some stuff and I still can't get my mic to work. Is there anyone that might be able to help me out with this?
[08:38] <sonu_nk> hi i recently created subdomain but its not working nslookup server can't find apis.mydomain.com: NXDOMAIN
[08:40] <theablestman> contact the website you registered with sonu_nk
[08:41] <s10gopal_> how to disbale dedicated graphics card ? (i dont have drivers installed)
[09:01] <jose_felipe> teste
[09:05] <BlitzerHound> Alright, so nevermind.   I even run facebook messenger through REPL in command line.
[09:20] <qifu> #openstack-trove
[09:21] <Wopsie>  pop cmatrix for ultimate nerdstatus.. lmao
[09:21] <rud0lf> qifu: you need to prepend it with /join
[09:23] <phi_> Hi, i'm setting up a 1gb swap ssd partition for my 8gb ram laptop
[09:23] <qifu> thanks
[09:23] <nanodrone> Wopsie, how do you do that
[09:23] <phi_> but I think it doesnt need anymore can I delete it?
[09:23] <nanodrone> the fb messenger REPL thing
[09:23] <nanodrone> i wanna try
[09:23] <ikonia> phi_: unmount it, delete the partition
[09:24] <phi_> ikonia: can i create another swap partition on another hdd in the same system too?
[09:24] <ikonia> phi_: if you want
[09:24] <phi_> ikonia: do i need to modify genfstab file
[09:25] <ikonia> genfstab ?
[09:25] <ikonia> or do you mean /etc/fstab
[09:26] <phi_> ikonia: sorry for my noob yes it is
[09:26] <ikonia> phi_: yes, remove the line that references swap
[09:26] <phi_> ikonia: how about when adding a new one?
[09:26] <ikonia> phi_: then you'd add a new line
[09:27] <MustaKrakish> phi_, don't forget to swapon /dev/X
[09:27] <rud0lf> phi_: never be sorry to ask questions or to not be advanced in something, being noob and asking questions is first step to be good at something :)
[09:44] <lolopolosko> Hey guys, what is package provided "send" command?
[09:45] <SwedeMike> lolopolosko: mailutils-mh or nmh
[09:45] <lolopolosko> I try enter my password from bash script, but command send didn't find on ubuntu 10.04
[09:46] <SwedeMike> lolopolosko: 10.04???? really? you need to upgrade.
[09:46] <ducasse> lolopolosko: 10.10 has been dead and unsupported for a long, long time
[09:46] <ducasse> *10.04
[09:47] <lolopolosko> SwedeMike, no no)))) I use 10.04 because I need build some software.    Far out.
[10:38] <marenz_> Well, swift something something was a troll
[10:38] <ikonia> marenz_: he's gone a long time ago so you don't need to comment on it
[10:39] <marenz_> I thought that was what YankDownUnder was referring
[10:43] <nanodrone> i'm surprised that i've been able to resolve whatever issues i've come across so far on ubuntu mostly by myself...
[11:12] <exscape> I need some help with a Ubuntu 16.04 server; I accidentally deleted all files (not subdirs) in /boot, and I can't get APT to (re)install a new kernel... Any advice? Some command output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24353992/
[11:12] <exscape> it hasn't been restarted yet, and I'd really rather solve this remotely pre-reboot, rather than having to do it on-site
[11:17] <marrenarre> Hi. Any idea why `setxkbmap` does not work in Ubuntu GNOME? I’m trying to set the variant to a particular one that is not `basic`, but it ends up being that anyway.
[11:18] <mgor> exscape, start of by trying "sudo apt-get install -f", this is to fix "3 not fully installed or removed"
[11:19] <exscape> mgor: thanks; it failed though, it doesn't seem happy that the kernel file doesn't exist. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24354009/
[11:21] <aadi> Hey all!
[11:22] <aadi> Getting back to GNOME gonna be good?
[11:25] <alkisg> marrenarre: recent gnome-based environments don't respect xkb settings, they defined their own in gsettings. On the other hand, MATE does respect them.
[11:25] <k1l> aadi: we will see what the future brings :) technically there should not be an issue
[11:25] <alkisg> marrenarre: so, use the gnome keyboard layouts dialog to define what you want
[11:26] <mgor> exscape, not sure how picky it is regarding the file type, but you could try to create a dummy file, so that the file actually exists, touch /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-72-generic
[11:28] <marrenarre> alkisg: Aww. :( I guess I will just use e.g. MATE then since I have another setup that does use `setxkbmap` and I am too lazy to maintain separate solutions.
[11:28] <aadi> k1l, I was thinking to install GNOME desktop in my machine, I once installed GNOME Session flashback, but is there any other way to have GNOME desktop environment in my machine?
[11:29] <ShadowZ> hello
[11:30] <ShadowZ> can anyone help me??
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hiya folks
[11:31] <marrenarre> ShadowZ: Do you have a question?
[11:32] <ShadowZ> yes
[11:32] <ShadowZ> about ethernet
[11:33] <marrenarre> ShadowZ: Ask your question, and maybe someone will help.
[11:33] <ShadowZ> https://imagez.to/a/0jYiYw
[11:38] <oe1skw> does someone know how to fix the reboot bug in ubuntu Server 16.04
[11:39] <exscape> mgor: thanks, that set me on the right track! After creating vmlinuz-... and System.map-... I could install a new kernel, looks like everything is fine now
[11:40] <mgor> exscape, glad to hear!
[11:40] <ShadowZ> can anyone help me with ethernet driver?
[11:41] <mgor> exscape, just make sure that /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-72-generic isn't an empty file, if you accidently try to boot it :)
[11:41] <MustaKrakish> ShadowZ, which card?
[11:41] <ShadowZ> nvidia nforce
[11:41] <ShadowZ> https://imagez.to/a/0jYiYw
[11:42] <exscape> mgor: haha, yeah, I checked :) it also installed proper files for abi/config/initrd
[11:43] <MustaKrakish> ShadowZ, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man4/nfe.4freebsd.html
[11:44] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: i recommend getting a PCI-E Intel instead of the horrible, horrible NVIDIA ethernet :)
[11:44] <MustaKrakish> less P.T ^^
[11:47] <ShadowZ> it was an old computer
[11:47] <faugusztin> nForce 4/400 was one giant mess, which you should avoid if possible.  Having said that, ShadowZ's system cleaerly detects the ethernet adapter
[11:47] <ShadowZ> i just used it for torrenting
[11:48] <ShadowZ> where is loader.conf?
[11:49] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: what is your issue ? Your ethernet is at enp0s7
[11:49] <ShadowZ> yes
[11:49] <faugusztin> but what is your problem ? from here it looks it works just fine
[11:50] <AmedioYyo> how could I install Autocad in Ubuntu?
[11:50] <ShadowZ> nothing hapen when i plug in the cabel
[11:50] <MustaKrakish> ifconfig -a prints what?
[11:50] <ShadowZ> like i'm not using ethernet at all
[11:50] <MustaKrakish> are you getting an IP?
[11:51] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: and please also post /etc/network/interfaces, just to be sure
[11:51] <ShadowZ> https://imagez.to/i/WsdWqtPe.png
[11:52] <matt__> hi
[11:52] <k1l> aadi: install "gnome-shell" or install "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" for the full desktop including all standard apps etc.
[11:53] <matt__> i hate when qbittorent has errors on downloadung ubuntu
[11:53] <MustaKrakish> ShadowZ, does the light on the eth port come on when you plug in the cable?
[11:53] <ShadowZ> https://imagez.to/i/M3fyQBVe
[11:54] <ShadowZ> yes
[11:54] <ShadowZ> the light is on
[11:54] <nanodrone> when's 1704 releasing
[11:54] <matt__> whats better bittorent qbiyyorent or utorrent
[11:54] <k1l> nanodrone: still the 13.04.2017
[11:54] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: ethtool enp0s7
[11:54] <nanodrone> i forget.
[11:54] <nanodrone> so ~3 days...
[11:54] <ShadowZ> what??
[11:55] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: run that command, post output
[11:55] <MustaKrakish> type ethtool enp0s7
[11:55] <ShadowZ> ok
[11:55] <nanodrone> can't wait.
[11:55] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: it should give you an output like http://paste.ubuntu.com/24354129/
[11:55] <MustaKrakish> ShadowZ, post output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:55] <ShadowZ> command not found
[11:55] <faugusztin> ShadowZ; sudo apt-get install ethtool
[11:56] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: and obviously if you can, install pastebinit too
[11:56] <BluesKaj> ShadowZ:  try, sudo dhclient
[11:56] <faugusztin> then you can run ethtool enp0s7 | pastebinit
[11:56] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: as you can see, the output will tell at last line if link is detected or not
[11:56] <faugusztin> if no link is detected => system thinks there is no cable
[11:58] <ShadowZ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24354151/
[11:59] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: so link is not detected, that sounds bad
[11:59] <faugusztin> ShadowZ: are you sure the cable is fine ?
[11:59] <ShadowZ> yep
[11:59] <ShadowZ> i try with my laptop
[11:59] <ShadowZ> its connected
[12:00] <faugusztin> RIP ethernet port then, IMO :)
[12:01] <faugusztin> buy an ethernet card, if it is a desktop PC
[12:01] <MustaKrakish> ShadowZ, go get another PCI ethernet card
[12:01] <faugusztin> or keep using the wirless
[12:01] <ShadowZ> i guess don't much choice is it
[12:02] <MustaKrakish> it is
[12:02] <ShadowZ> why is it that its okay before
[12:02] <MustaKrakish> when?
[12:02] <MustaKrakish> like, when did it stop working?
[12:03] <ShadowZ> ubuntu 16.10
[12:03] <MustaKrakish> ShadowZ, interesting.
[12:04] <ShadowZ> in ubuntu 11 and 12 its working
[12:04] <MustaKrakish> boot a live DVD/CD and see if it does still work
[12:04] <ShadowZ> ok
[12:04] <MustaKrakish> they can die randomly
[12:04] <MustaKrakish> just to be sure
[12:04] <ShadowZ> tq for ur time guys
[12:04] <ShadowZ> i got to go
[12:04] <ShadowZ> bye
[12:04] <MustaKrakish> o/
[12:06] <faugusztin> ^ and this is why my first recommendation after hearing nvidia chipset was to get a PCI-E Intel NIC :D
[12:06] <matt__> what i=is the dirrerenve of bios and vefi
[12:06] <alkisg> !uefi
[12:06] <faugusztin> on other side with a 20 euro NIC would probably double the value of that computer
[12:06] <lrojas> does anybody knows why is ubuntu abandonning mir + unity in favor of gnome?
[12:07] <faugusztin> money
[12:07] <lrojas> ??
[12:07] <Guest74782> dsgsdg
[12:07] <lrojas> how so?
[12:07] <Guest74782> im hoe
[12:07] <Guest74782> im joe
[12:07] <lrojas> faugusztin: ?
[12:08] <MustaKrakish> hi hoe
[12:08] <Guest74782> what
[12:08] <faugusztin> lrojas: no return, better investments than desktop Ubuntu
[12:08] <Guest74782> yes
[12:08] <k1l> lrojas: read the blogpost fully.
[12:09] <lrojas> i dont get it, they are about to release 17.04 and now they are abbandoning it?
[12:09] <lrojas> i mean.. unity 8 + mir
[12:09] <faugusztin> lrojas: "The choice, ultimately, is to invest in the areas which are contributing to the growth of the company."
[12:09] <faugusztin> lrojas: where do you see unity 8 and mir in 17.04 ?
[12:09] <lrojas> this is going to be a pita
[12:10] <k1l> lrojas: the target for gnome as standard desktop is 18.04, not 17.04. unity will be packages still in the repos even on1 8.04
[12:10] <faugusztin> lrojas: 17.04 has Unity 7 and X
[12:10] <scottjl> i won't miss unity one bit
[12:10] <faugusztin> and hell, Unity 7 will be supported until 2021 at least
[12:10] <lrojas> faugusztin: it also has unity 8  and mir
[12:10] <faugusztin> not by default
[12:11] <k1l> lrojas: for more discussion about that topic better join #ubuntu-offtopic since we foccus on the technical suppor tin here
[12:11] <lrojas> scottjl: i mean after the whole hassle of switching desktop environment now we are back to switching again...
[12:12] <lrojas> k1l: ok
[12:13] <BluesKaj> ShadowZ: did you try, sudo dhclient ?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> oops , forgot to hit enter about 10 min ago
[12:20] <wellick> hi, which program do you recomend to block websites for an x amount of time? no browser extensions, please.
[12:21] <PipeItToDevNull> wellick, A solution could be changing your hostfile out with a script at X time via crontab
[12:23] <wellick> But that makes it very easy to change it back out of impulse. I was thinking something like Cold Turkey for windows that is hard to unblock.
[12:24] <PipeItToDevNull> So you have conditions, that you didnt bother to mention. Make a full post
[12:26] <tomreyn> the best feature against distractions is self-discipline, but there's no software for that. also dedication and motivation help a lot.
[12:30] <wellick> tomreyn: is this #ubuntu or #lifecoaching101 ?
[12:30] <MustaKrakish> lel
[12:31] <scottjl> #deadair
[12:31] <BluesKaj> wellick:  +1 :-)
[12:32] <wellick> ;)
[12:38] <Finisterra> I'm looking for 101 literature they will help this noon out. I'm loving Ubuntu, but I can't figure out how to navigate file system using terminal not the simple task of installing flash into chromium. I guy a wall trying to install simple application from a website. That's for the direction.
[12:42] <faugusztin> Finisterra: apt-get install mc
[12:42] <faugusztin> faugusztin: then run the mc command :)
[12:42] <faugusztin> that should help you a bit
[12:42] <PipeItToDevNull> Finisterra, Or ranger, ranger is the best CLI file manager
[12:43] <faugusztin> PipeItToDevNull: vim inspired, that already made me feel bad (sorry, not a fan of either big editor camp)
[12:43] <PipeItToDevNull> Finisterra, But the best thing is to learn the file structure of Linux, it gets easier to know where you are after that
[12:43] <Finisterra> Midnight commander. Thanks for direction. I'll check it out!!
[12:44] <vipje> hallo
[12:45] <Finisterra> Pipe..: I'm reading that this morning. I have to be patient.  ;)
[12:51] <vipje> hi
[12:59] <tomreyn> sorry wellick ;)
[13:01] <wellick> no problem man. I do know I have a wandering mind. I need external help ;)
[13:06] <windowsnoob> hello
[13:06] <windowsnoob> is this chat active?
[13:07] <k1l> windowsnoob: yes it is
[13:07] <windowsnoob> ok, i have a quick question - i just can't get my sound to work on ubuntu, is it possible that my hardware is simply not compatible?
[13:07] <windowsnoob> like, i can pick the output i need, but nothing comes out
[13:08] <windowsnoob> tried all the stuff i could find on google and nothing worked
[13:08] <k1l> depends on what desktop, what ubuntu release, what hardware, what connection type.....
[13:08] <windowsnoob> so you mean it is possible that i won't be able to make it work no matter what?
[13:09] <k1l> windowsnoob: its hard to tell, without more details. there are several possible issues (besides hardware issues) and i cant tell you out of the blue if your hardware is not compatible
[13:11] <k1l> windowsnoob: "i dont get sound on me new car" how should one answer that without more details?
[13:11] <singh> hiiii
[13:12] <windowsnoob> well, i was not asking how to fix it, i'm just saying i tried everything and am wondering if further effort might be futile
[13:12] <windowsnoob> but it's a realtek hd output, just the built in stuff in my motherboard (p55-us3l)
[13:12] <droid_ar> On the HP Spectre x360 15" with Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 , Im having an issue when I plug in headphones I get a really annoying buzz and hiss from the speakers.  I'm not sure how to go about troubleshooting this.
[13:13] <windowsnoob> i'm actually pretty sure i had the same issue a few years ago, ended up using linux mint where it did work
[13:14] <PCatinean> hey guys, how does one password protect his id_rsa key?
[13:14] <PCatinean> if it's not password protected
[13:14] <k1l> windowsnoob: i suggest to start with looking at alsamixer if its muted
[13:15] <droid_ar> Yeah. I did a live CD of Linux Mint last night and it didn't have the issue.  Which means there has to be a fix somewhere
[13:15] <windowsnoob> i have k1l, tried reinstalling it, muting and unmuting stuff...
[13:16] <droid_ar> k1l: in alsamixer everything is muted with the headphones plugged in and still the noise
[13:16] <NEETWizard> anyone know about setting wacom tablet options? xsetwacom set Area isn't working. {but set MapToOutput is} I'm trying to change the aspect ratio to match.
[13:17] <k1l> droid_ar: are you sure the audio jack is technically not brumming? like pulling the energy cable to test if its better on battery
[13:17] <k1l> windowsnoob: if you tried everything, and everything did not help. i dont know what to tell you then
[13:17] <droid_ar> k1l: It's not the audio jack.  Windows and Linux Mint have no issue
[13:18] <k1l> droid_ar: what ubuntu with what kernel?
[13:19] <droid_ar> gnome 16.04.  I've tried kernels 4.4, 4.10, and 4.11 rc5
[13:20] <NEETWizard> ... hm. ok. xsetwacom Area values are changing, but they don't seem to make any difference. the top/bottom/left/right sides still remain the same.
[13:20] <k1l> droid_ar: hmm.
[13:27] <hopeland> dont push me ikonia защото ще ви бутна брутално :) google translate Blulgarian
[13:31] <NEETWizard> well, lemme try looking into ... matrix. transform matrix?
[13:33] <hopeland> westerns is funny bud stupid
[13:35] <NEETWizard> well, that didn't work either. :(
[13:36] <hopeland> 1 kg banns and
[13:36] <NEETWizard> I don't get it. why does this do absolutely nothing?
[13:37] <NEETWizard> I can map the tablet to just one of the two monitors, but I can't change the aspect ratio at all. top/bottom/left/right area always the same.
[13:37] <hopeland> just game
[13:37] <arunpyasi> hello people, why am I unable to send AT commands to SIM900A with my Ubuntu ?
[13:38] <arunpyasi> please help me, the module is not responding..
[13:38] <arunpyasi> I went through everything but no idea why its not working still.
[13:38] <someone_> Hi , What is the best IRC software for ubuntu ?
[13:39] <hopeland> ikonia k1l
[13:39] <hopeland> chat him
[13:39] <hopeland> i am abuser
[13:39] <hopeland> proxy vpn flooder
[13:40] <hopeland> :)
[13:41] <ryuw_> openbsd-it
[13:41] <w9qbj> someone_: Hexchat works for me.
[13:41] <DarkPsydeLord> |o
[13:42] <DarkPsydeLord> that will be me XD
[13:42] <faugusztin> someone_: i use web based "The Lounge"
[13:43] <Flohack> Hi there! I am looking for verterok
[13:47] <saker> I'm coming...
[13:52] <saker> \quit
[13:59] <taylor_guy> Does anyone have experience with connecting to L2TP VPNs? I have the appropriate packages installed for the gui (network-manager-l2tp  && network-manager-l2tp-gnome) but I always get an error in my syslog when connecting "N(AUTH_FAILURE)"
[13:59] <refill_> hi
[14:00] <refill_> I do get an error?
[14:00] <refill_> can I use qemu to boot 64bit iso on the 32 bit OS?
[14:00] <ducasse> refill_: no
[14:00] <refill_> OH
[14:00] <refill_> How come
[14:01] <compdoc> the host cpu isnt 64bit
[14:01] <refill_> I am on 32 bit ubuntu, and the virtual OS is 64 bit
[14:01] <refill_> the lscpu says it's both 32 and 64bit obviously, so
[14:01] <compdoc> err, not cpu, os
[14:02] <refill_> but 64 bit os, can boot both?
[14:02] <ducasse> refill_: yes
[14:02] <refill_> hence I am enable to use qemu, that explains the error
[14:03] <refill_> Looks like I am forced to migrate to 64bit
[14:03] <compdoc> best thing, really
[14:03] <syntaks> hmm which might be the best list/resource to keep up on for kernel 4.11 nvidia drivers?
[14:04] <compdoc> syntaks, glad you heard which kernel to get for that system
[14:04] <jonasrogert> Hi, i'm using ubuntu 17.04 on a dell xps dev 9360, I have a problem with lshw freezes the computer completly it stops on network (virtualbox also freezes the computer). Could anyone give me any pointers on what to try?
[14:04] <syntaks> compdoc: :)
[14:04] <syntaks> thanks to faugusztin
[14:05] <compdoc> yup
[14:05] <syntaks> it was still unstable after the fact
[14:05] <syntaks> but it was due to acpi off and the mem being too high freq
[14:05] <syntaks> all 4 banks used up
[14:05] <ouroumov_> !+1 | jonasrogert
[14:05] <ouroumov_> rha
[14:05] <syntaks> but so far unbelievable performance
[14:05] <ducasse> !zesty | jonasrogert
[14:05] <arunpyasi> help me with that SIM900A modem, its still not working... It worked fine on my friend's windows machine but not in Ubuntu.
[14:05] <compdoc> good
[14:05] <syntaks> i just can't use the machine yet
[14:06] <refill_> on ##linux they said me, that I can have whichever mix I want, any virtual OS, and any number of bit main OS?
[14:06] <syntaks> no nvidia drivers work
[14:06] <ouroumov_> thanks ducasse
[14:06] <refill_> It's confusing
[14:07] <hopeland> new kernel work i use 940 mx nvidia 4.10.19
[14:07] <hopeland> but i bann
[14:07] <syntaks> hopeland: kern 4.10.19?
[14:07] <hopeland> and use win
[14:07] <syntaks> i need 4.11 for my system
[14:07] <hopeland> 17.04
[14:07] <hopeland> beta
[14:08] <syntaks> same
[14:08] <syntaks> Linux fortschritt 4.11.0-041100rc6-generic #201704091331 SMP Sun Apr 9 17:32:54 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:08] <hopeland> mainline kernel
[14:08] <syntaks> nvidia binary drivers won't work though
[14:09] <hopeland> not final and stable
[14:09] <hopeland> 4.11
[14:09] <compdoc> cant you install 4.11 in ubuntu 16.04 too?
[14:10] <hopeland> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:10] <hopeland> download and install
[14:11] <syntaks> hopeland: which one are you talking about?
[14:11] <ducasse> syntaks: he's our resident troll and just rambles nonsense, just ignore
[14:11] <hopeland> kernel but driver
[14:11] <syntaks> ah
[14:11] <hopeland> not use
[14:11] <hopeland> i use 4.10.19
[14:12] <hopeland> new driver
[14:12] <yengas> hey guysex
[14:12] <hopeland> nvidia and work
[14:12] <yengas> guys*
[14:12] <yengas> wow i was trying to type exit to the terminal, that turned out pretty weird
[14:13] <jink> yengas: I suspect some of the people here love guysex, so no harm done.
[14:13] <wizard_> hi everyone, how could I hold the ethernet controller to do it non updatable?
[14:13] <yengas> this is what happens after i logout or close the lid of my laptop
[14:14] <yengas> it is fixed after i reboot
[14:14] <yengas> http://imgur.com/a/ZyyTy
[14:14] <ducasse> wizard_: non updatable?
[14:15] <ducasse> wizard_: you mean a static address?
[14:15] <faugusztin> yengas: yes, i seen bug report for that
[14:15] <hopeland> sudo su pass apt update   apt upgreat
[14:15] <faugusztin> yengas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1292830
[14:16] <faugusztin> yengas: some get black, some white borders
[14:16] <wizard_> ducasse, after update the system, I only can connect to internet using wifi, but my etheret card don't conecct, i have to install the driver
[14:17] <faugusztin> syntaks: you could always try some latest 4.10 kernel and try to use nvidia driver with that. in worst case scenario you will return to 4.11
[14:17] <ducasse> wizard_: the ethernet drivers are part of the kernel, you could try the old one
[14:17] <wizard_> my pc uses this driver RTL8169
[14:17] <syntaks> why not
[14:17] <syntaks> let's give it a go :)
[14:17] <wizard_> how can i do it?
[14:17] <someone_> faugusztin How I can install or use thelounge?
[14:18] <faugusztin> syntaks: though this one says seems like it really needs 4.11 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=224907
[14:18] <faugusztin> someone_: https://thelounge.github.io/ :)
[14:18] <ducasse> wizard_: choose the previous kernel from the grub menu on boot, it's under 'advanced'
[14:18] <faugusztin> someone_: the green box is rather specific :D
[14:18] <hopeland> 4.11 not stable
[14:18] <syntaks> ahhh
[14:18] <syntaks> faugusztin: looks like i'm waiting
[14:18] <someone_> Thank you.
[14:19] <wizard_> ducasse, and I can update after that without the same problem?
[14:19] <ducasse> wizard_: no, you will need to keep using the kernel that works - *if* that is the problem
[14:20] <wizard_> ducasse, ok, thanks, and another doubt, itś possible to install lxde without it's pgrograms?
[14:23] <ducasse> wizard_: yes, you can pick and choose the components you want
[14:23] <wizard_> ducasse  using the software center or synaptic?
[14:24] <ducasse> wizard_: either
[14:24] <wizard_> ducasse, thank you again, i will to try it, cause unity is so heavy for my machine
[14:25] <wizard_> First apt install lubuntu desktop or apt install lxde?
[14:26] <ducasse> wizard_: lxde, but that will install small programs like the calculator, terminal and image viewer, you probably want those, though.
[14:27] <ArchDebian> If the root user change my password (by "passwd" or directly in the "/etc/shadow") it can be able access my home directory encrypted with ecryptfs?
[14:27] <wizard_> thans
[14:28] <wizard_> ducasse and after do this, i can remove unuty?
[14:28] <brainwash> wizard_: maybe you should have installed Lubuntu in the first place
[14:29] <wizard_> braimash, it wasn't an option at it's moment
[14:29] <someone_> Is there a repository for Lounge?
[14:30] <anddam> what's an easy way to setup remote access to an ubuntu host behind NAT from another ubuntu host?
[14:31] <k1l> someone_: see the projects github, but i doubt it
[14:31] <kirkland> ArchDebian: no, that'll break the wrapped passphrase
[14:33] <anddam> I see there's Desktop Sharing Preferences panel but I'm more interested if there's some app taking care of the behind-the-nat-traversal
[14:35] <ArchDebian> kirkland: thank you, eCryptfs seems good to protect the home data
[14:35] <syntaks>
[14:36] <L00P3X> hello.. i'm unable to read and write this usb stick.. format is not possible even whit gparted that sees it as non writable.. have it a brick or how can it be recovered/restored?
[14:36] <yengas> faugusztin: thanks i will take a look at the bug report
[14:36] <syntaks> hah faugusztin
[14:36] <syntaks> latest beta on nvidia is april 6, 2017 :)
[14:36] <syntaks> it's at the bottom of the page lol
[14:36] <syntaks> time to fire it up
[14:37] <syntaks> nope :/
[14:39] <syntaks> was worth a try
[14:40] <ducasse> L00P3X: it's common for usb sticks that fail to go read only, aiui
[14:42] <penguinlinux> hello, do I need to create an efi partition in gpd formatted disk also. I want to install Ubuntu on my brand new laptop. It has no OS installed on it.
[14:42] <penguinlinux> gpt formatted hdd.
[14:43] <L00P3X> yes ducasse .. I have 2 of them that maybe blew out after a unsafe remove of them.. i don't know why this happened several monts ago :/ now i need one and would be good somehow fix it but haven't find aswere yet..
[14:44] <ducasse> L00P3X: i think this is just what the memory cells do when they fail, they 'lock' in read only mode
[14:47] <L00P3X> ducasse: why? it's like that pore guy who deleted sudo and tryed sudo apt-get install sudo..
[14:49] <ducasse> L00P3X: it's how flash memory works, it has a limited number of write cycles
[14:50] <anchnk> hi, I am using my laptop either at my company either on public network
[14:50] <anchnk> my company is behind a NTML proxy
[14:50] <L00P3X> ducasse: so you say thats it's may bricked.. also caput, gone
[14:51] <anchnk> I would like to switch some configurations either when I am in company and when I am in a public network
[14:51] <anchnk> what would be the best way to implement that ?
[14:51] <anchnk> I guess trigerring a script that would do the job is an option there
[14:51] <ducasse> L00P3X: that's the gist, yes
[14:53] <L00P3X> ducasse: not the best way to prevent data lost :|.. my computer befor getting to hot should shut down and not prevently explode
[14:54] <ducasse> L00P3X: the data should still be readable, you just can't write to it. it's much better than say hard drives, that totally fail.
[14:56] <chrisml> how does one grep a file for a string containing a space?
[14:57] <ducasse> chrisml: 'grep "foo bar" file'
[14:57] <genii> chrisml: grep ' ' file
[14:58] <chrisml> ah i was trying to pipe it
[14:58] <L00P3X> ducasse: thank you for your time.. let's see what i kann either do whit it :/
[14:58] <ducasse> L00P3X: np
[15:03] <dfin> hi everyone... does anyone know how to debug a preseeded netboot?
[15:04] <dfin> (or a better channel for the question if this isn't the right place?)
[15:04] <nacc> dfin: what specifically do you need to debug?
[15:05] <dfin> nacc: The installation process - I'm getting an "Installation Step Failed" error while in the "Select and Install Software" stage
[15:05] <dfin> And I don't really know how to see what's going wrong
[15:07] <nacc> dfin: do you have access to the console?
[15:07] <dfin> yes
[15:07] <nacc> dfin: iirc, you can go back in the menus to the root menu and "drop to a shell" or so
[15:07] <dfin> hm
[15:07] <nacc> dfin: at which point you should be able to look at logs in /var/log
[15:09] <dfin> nacc: awesome! I have an error! thanks!
[15:11] <nacc> dfin: np
[15:18] <pavlos> anddam, if you use vnc, you'd have to port forward 5900 on your router
[15:30] <anchnk> is it possible to pass options to service within systemd ? Something like systemctl restart cntlm -c /etc/cntlm.private.conf ?
[15:32] <sere> is there a way to install a package without all the dependencies.. im trying to install banshee but dont want all the other stuff it comes with
[15:33] <ducasse> sere: try 'apt install --no-install-recommends banshee'
[15:33] <BluesKaj> sere: do you undserstand what dependencies are ?
[15:34] <raymondillo> sere: Well the dependencies are just that. However you can try sudo apt autoremove after the install to remove the cruft.
[15:34] <sere> BluesKaj: yes but i dont need to install braseo is i already have another burning program theres others aswell i dont need
[15:35] <nacc> brasero is a recommends
[15:35] <nacc> so as ducasse said, sere
[15:35] <nacc> probably because banshee knows how to natively talk to brasero, but not tested/known to be able to use other burning software(s)
[15:35] <BluesKaj> sere:  you can remove what you don't need afterwards i guess , but ducasse's suggestion will work too ..never tried that myself
[15:36] <nacc> sere: you can pass --no-install-recommends and it won't install the recommends, but you can't remove a packages dependencies without removing te package itself
[15:36] <nacc> anchnk: i think you would change the unit definition
[15:37] <BluesKaj> i never thought that recommendeds were installed by default anyway
[15:38] <nacc> BluesKaj: i believe they are, but i think it depends on the tool
[15:39] <sere> thank you!!! without to no installs it unpacks at 254 and with it 114
[15:39] <anchnk> nacc sorry what do you mean by unit definition ?
[15:40] <sere> i normally use aptitude or apt-get and synaptic for gui
[15:41] <nacc> sere: i know you can change the default for apt-get with apt.conf
[15:41] <nacc> sere: not sure about aptitude or synaptic
[15:41] <ducasse> afaik they are installed by default, synaptic even has an apt prefs file named 99-something to override other settings
[15:41] <nacc> anchnk: do you know how systemd services are configured?
[15:42] <sere> ducasse: ty :)
[15:42] <nacc> anchnk: if not, then no, it's not generally possible to do what you want without changing some files locally (which is my suggestion: change what the cntlm service does
[15:42] <sere> i didnt know i could do this.. been feeling so bloated lately
[15:43] <anchnk> nacc: ok so I would have to change the content of the configuration file in my script that's it ?
[15:43] <nacc> anchnk: uh, no?
[15:43] <nacc> anchnk: you need to change the definition of what hte cntlm service is
[15:44] <nacc> anchnk: i don't know what cntlm is but maybe there is an option you can set in, say, /etc/default/cntlm or so that specifies where it's config file lives
[15:44] <anchnk> yeah it's a program to deal with ntlm protocol and proxies in most companies I would like it to load with a different configuration files
[15:45] <sere> 99synaptic is APT::Install-Recommends "true";
[15:45] <wheypro> hello
[15:45] <anchnk> I could stop the service switch the content of the default configuration file and restart it but I find that kind of ugly
[15:45] <anchnk> I would better like to start the service with the good configuration file so I would have to lok in the definition
[15:46] <ducasse> sere: yes, i always remove that file
[15:46] <ducasse> sere: or change it, i don't recall rn
[15:46] <nacc> anchnk: right, my suggestion is one of two: change the service to explicitly look for your configuration file (/lib/systemd/system/cntlm.service maybe), or change what configuration file it uses by default (/etc/default/cntlm maybe)
[15:47] <sere> ducasse: i changed it to false. will remove it i need to
[15:47] <anchnk> ok thank you nacc I am going to try
[15:48] <nacc> anchnk: gl
[16:02] <Murii> Is there a way of changing my ip adress so I can use spotify? Apparently it's not available in my country
[16:02] <Fuchs> Murii: a VPN would come to mind, there are various free and commercial ones.
[16:03] <Murii> I'd like a free one
[16:05] <sere> quit
[16:06] <Some_Person> holy crap, what in the heck happened to gedit over the past however many years? it looks more like notepad than a powerful text editor now
[16:07] <darthanubis> Some_Person, Why care about the looks, it
[16:08] <darthanubis> still is a powerful editor
[16:10] <Fuchs> hardly a powerful editor, it is meant to be simple
[16:10] <Fuchs> there are powerful alternatives for people who e.g. code
[16:11] <XenophonF> greetings friends - i manually installed ubuntu-desktop on what was formerly a minimal install of 16.04 (running in a VMware Fusion VM, in case that matters), but the X server seems to be using a crazy video resolution by default
[16:11] <anchnk> hi to create a bootable UEFI usb flash drive does that dd the iso image on a FAT32 formatted formation on the flash drive will be enough ?
[16:11] <XenophonF> any hints on how to get it to DTRT?
[16:12] <XenophonF> i've checked the usual suspects---the correct driver is installed (the one for vmware)
[16:12] <XenophonF> what's weird is that /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist
[16:13] <XenophonF> i think the display resolution is set to 4K (and then scaled down by VMware Fusion) even though my display is only 1080p
[16:13] <deitario1> How would I go about remapping a key on just one device? (I have a USB foot pedal which presents itself as a "b" key and I want it to present itself as XF86AudioPause.)
[16:14] <deitario1> Preferrably via /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that it's not tied to a specific desktop and doesn't require a command to be manually run after hotplug.
[16:14] <nicomachus> deitario1: have you checked in system settings > keyboard > shortcuts?
[16:14] <Dr-007> i'm having a meltdown on my server. i think perhabs my hdd is broken. i think i heard it make a little sound. but when the computer started up i pressed escape to see the bootlog on screen and saw that at least one partition got tested (prretty fast tho), and then  the pc hung, i got a lot of kernel panics, then i rebooted again and now the pc starts up and i can login, but network isnt working
[16:14] <Dr-007> anymore. i'm getting alot of rtl8... ply messages in dmesg and one kernel panic.  ,... is there a system diagnostics tool in ubuntu to test all the hardware, cpu, memory, disks and tell me exactly which one is creating all this kernel panic. (or perhabs it is my ethernet card, but i dont think that would create a kernel panic tho, would it? just a little "ah.. your network pci card doesnt work"
[16:14] <Dr-007> panic)
[16:15] <deitario1> nicomachus: <deitario1> Preferrably via /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that it's not tied to a specific desktop
[16:15] <generic> what do I choose libav or ffmpeg ?
[16:15] <nacc> Dr-007: well, you can't really detect what 'causes' a panic from within the system itself, as a panic kills the system
[16:15] <nicomachus> Dr-007: SMART will check your HDD, memtest for memory. start there.
[16:15] <deitario1> I bounce around through multiple desktops and I'd also like a solution I can apply to my mother's Lubuntu box once her unit arrives.
[16:15] <nacc> XenophonF: there is on /etc/X11/xorg.conf by defult anymore (there is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ iirc)
[16:16] <nacc> XenophonF: you can look in the X log to see why it using the resolution it is
[16:16] <nacc> XenophonF: and xrandr may let you change it
[16:16] <generic> libav vs ffmpeg ? who wins ?
[16:16] <generic> and why ?
[16:16] <nacc> !ot | generic
[16:16] <XenophonF> thanks nacc I'll check that
[16:16] <deitario1> generic: Assuming you're actually asking which is technically superior, ffmpeg.
[16:16] <Dr-007> nacc, thats true. but the inpatient little me also closed the window that ubuntu's gui opened telling me there was a problem (with a more info btn) so perhabs it was logged
[16:16] <Dr-007> ill go from there nicomachus
[16:17] <kang0> What's usages of lan?
[16:17] <nacc> Dr-007: well panics are hard to log -- what would log them? the kernel, no that's already dead :)
[16:17] <nacc> Dr-007: so you often need a console logger to catpure the output
[16:17] <generic> deitariol: lets stick with the stuff that we know :) thanks
[16:18] <nacc> Dr-007: but yeah, you can start witht he tools that do exist for testing hw
[16:18] <tonA> for your network test. first use the command iwconfig to check the status of your network. after that you ping it to other host available on your network
[16:18] <nacc> kang0: you want to know what a lan is?
[16:18] <nacc> tonA: ? wrong channel?
[16:18] <kang0> I know what's lan nacc
[16:18] <XenophonF> xrandr says that the display is set to 5120x3200!
[16:18] <kang0> I think it's connected devices
[16:19] <generic> what is recommended for ubuntu libav or ffmpeg ?
[16:19] <deitario1> generic: I do. Go back through the LWN.net archives. There have been whole articles about how libav has been withering since ffmpeg's maintainership cleaned up its act and how ffmpeg tends to respond more promptly to security fixes and, in general, get new functionality implemented more quickly. (Plus, Debian-family distros are the only major users of libav, with everyone else using and developing for ffmpeg.)
[16:19] <kang0> I want to know what's benefits or usages or apps after connecting devices
[16:19] <tonA> i mean the status of your network card..and you can use the command htop to check the process and cpu usage ,ram and all
[16:19] <nacc> XenophonF: that seems like pretty hi res :)
[16:19] <nacc> generic: use what you want
[16:19] <XenophonF> nacc: no doubt!
[16:19] <nacc> kang0: you want to know what the benefit  of a lan is?
[16:20] <kang0> Which are usages
[16:20] <nacc> kang0: that's not an ubuntu support topic, really. Maybe try ##linux, or something
[16:20] <XenophonF> this is my chance to convince my boss to buy me one of those 4K displays!
[16:20] <nacc> kang0: it's so generic a question, i don't know where you'd ask it
[16:20] <XenophonF> "oh man my ubuntu dev VM isn't compatible with these old displays..." :)
[16:20] <nacc> kang0: do you mean a LAN as compared to ... what?
[16:20] <generic> nacc:  Debian-family distros are the only major users of libav, with everyone else using and developing for ffmpeg.
[16:20] <nacc> !who | tonA
[16:20] <nacc> tonA: afaict, that doeesn't help if there's a panic
[16:21] <tonA> ubottu got it
[16:21] <nacc> tonA: libav hasn't been packagd on ubuntu since 15.04
[16:21] <nacc> tonA: sorry!
[16:21] <wafflejock> generic, check, ls -al /usr/bin/avconv just links to ffmpeg
[16:21] <kang0> nacc I don't want to Compare lan with anyone
[16:21] <Dr-007> nacc, ah thats true. i get what you mean. i've "debugged"/backtraced kernel panics from openwrt via a serial cable. the only reason that output ever reached my brain was because it was directly dumped to screen
[16:21] <nacc> generic: libav hasn't been packaged on ubunt since 15.04? unelss it's a newname
[16:21] <wafflejock> generic, at least for me on 16.04
[16:21] <tonA> nacc is ok
[16:22] <nacc> wafflejock: yep
[16:22] <ash_workz> what is a 'bzr' host?
[16:22] <nacc> ash_workz: bzr is a bazaar, an SCM (like git, svn, etc)
[16:22] <Dr-007> im glad the server started tho. i am now preparing an usb drive so i can mimic the env on my desktop pc. just have to get my webserver fils
[16:22] <nacc> Dr-007: right :)
[16:22] <deitario1> Huh. I wasn't aware of that. I've been using 14.04 LTS since it wasn't LTS because I haven't been able to justify disruption on my work machine.
[16:22] <nacc> kang0: then i don't understand your question or what you are trying to understand
[16:22] <nacc> deitario1: 'wasn't LTS'?
[16:22] <kang0> Ok na
[16:23] <generic> wafflejock: i dont need libav .. i would have done the same though :)
[16:23] <deitario1> nacc: Since it wasn't in the LTS phase of its lifecycle.
[16:23] <kang0> What are different usages of router
[16:23] <generic> nacc: thanks for the answer .. that about settles it
[16:23] <wafflejock> kang0, a router is primarily concerned with routing and network address translation or NAT
[16:24] <tonA> kang0..as an extender
[16:24] <wafflejock> kang0, it basically keeps track of what internal/LAN IP requested what page by using port numbers and remembers which ports it used for which requests for which LAN IPs so it can route the data to the correct device
[16:24] <ash_workz> nacc: oh? I googled an article about using git with inkscape and one such read 'We use a tool called git-bzr-ng to allow git to talk to bzr remote hosts.'... is bzr particularly suited for something over git? (I guess vector files in particular)
[16:24] <Skyrider> If I have an older ubuntu installed on OpenVZ, can I upgrade to eg, 16.04?
[16:24] <nacc> ash_workz: launchpad only had bzr for a while, but now also has git
[16:24] <ash_workz> nacc: what is launchpad again?
[16:25] <wafflejock> kang0, usually routers have DHCP on them too for giving out IP addresses to devices that request one on the network and keeps track of those by MAC address since those don't change for each network adapter
[16:25] <deitario1> kang0: A router is one of several ways to connect two networks together to make one bigger network and you need at least some of your connections to be via routers to successfully make something as big as the Internet.
[16:25] <nacc> I stand by point that kang0's questions are offtopic
[16:25] <nacc> let's move all the answers somewhere else :)
[16:26] <le-bro> hi
[16:26] <kang0> I don't have internet cable
[16:26] <wafflejock> agree with nacc kang0 would be good to put networking questions in #networking and keep this chat open for Ubuntu support issues
[16:26] <kang0> Hence looking ways to use router
[16:26] <le-bro> My firefox in ubuntu creashes
[16:26] <kang0> Other ways
[16:26] <le-bro> like always
[16:26] <le-bro> where can i get the logs of firefox??
[16:27] <nacc> le-bro: you can run it from the command-line (terminal) and see if it dumps output when it crashes
[16:27] <nacc> ash_workz: http://launchpad.net/ primary development site for ubuntu
[16:27] <ash_workz> nacc: then what's canonical?
[16:28] <generic> le-bro sudo apt-get update  then apt-get install firefox ?
[16:28] <nacc> ash_workz: canonical is a company
[16:28] <ash_workz> nacc: the company that supports development on launchpad.net?
[16:28] <nacc> ash_workz: canonical supports ubuntu; ubuntu uses launchpad (for bugs, etc.)
[16:29] <tgm4883> !discuss | ash_workz
[16:29] <nacc> ash_workz: feel free to ask more in #ubuntu-discuss
[16:29] <nacc> tgm4883: thanks :)
[16:34] <Skyrider> Guess I'll just do an upgrade from an older version to install a later version on openvz..
[16:37] <XenophonF> well i give up - tweaking xorg display configs was "fun" twenty years ago, but not so much now
[16:37] <XenophonF> i'm going to re-install ubuntu and hope that it auto-detects the right settings
[16:37] <XenophonF> brb
[16:40] <Skyrider> It is a support question btw ;)
[16:43] <nacc> Skyrider: "older ubuntu" -- makes me think you mean an EOL version, else why not say what version?
[16:47] <anddam> pavlos: my question was about a program that would overcame the need for explicit routing setup
[16:48] <anddam> pavlos: like using a centralized server to create a tunnel or so, I'm not sure someting like that exists in FOSS world but I figure it may well do
[16:48] <Skyrider> Really, no one?
[16:50] <nacc> Skyrider: ... i asked what version?
[16:50] <Skyrider> Sorry nacc, missed that.
[16:50] <Skyrider> 14.04 to 16.04
[16:50] <nacc> Skyrider: i don't know what openvz has to do with it, but if it's ubuntu, you should be able to do-release-upgrade it
[16:50] <mrpeppermint> Hi. I am a newbie here. Can somebody please explain what this is?
[16:51] <nacc> mrpeppermint: this is the Ubuntu support channel, for helping users with issues iwth Ubuntu
[16:51] <nacc> mrpeppermint: or do you mean IRC in general?
[16:51] <Skyrider> It will always attempt to install to 16.04 from an older version in the end?
[16:51] <Skyrider> or do i have to add something somewhere.
[16:51] <darthanubis> !ask| mrpeppermint
[16:51] <nacc> Skyrider: i'm not sure what 'it' is and it depends on what "older version" is
[16:52] <nacc> Skyrider: and your settings, of course
[16:52] <mrpeppermint> nacc: IRC in general. And also hw this is diff from askubuntu?
[16:52] <nacc> mrpeppermint: askubuntu is a web forum
[16:52] <nacc> mrpeppermint: irc is more like a live chat
[16:52] <Skyrider> I mean..  if I upgrade from 14.04, I assume 15.04 will come first? or will it skip it to the latest.
[16:52] <nacc> Skyrider: no.
[16:52] <nacc> Skyrider: 15.04 is eol
[16:52] <Skyrider> Yea, I know. Just wondering
[16:52] <nacc> Skyrider: 14.04 -> 16.04 is the only upgrade you can do currently
[16:52] <Skyrider> Thanks :)
[16:52] <nacc> Skyrider: lts -> lts
[16:53] <Skyrider> Guess I'll try it later on with a fresh new 14.04 minimal, thanks.
[16:53] <nacc> Skyrider: or, once you are on the last lts (16.04 currently), you can upgrade to development releases (16.10, 17.04)
[16:53] <Skyrider> Appreciate it
[16:53] <nacc> Skyrider: see /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:54] <mrpeppermint> nacc: so there are 1877 total users active right now?
[16:54] <nacc> Skyrider: but note, once you are on development releases, they have shorter suppport cycles and you have to go sequentially through them (so you can't upgrde from 16.04 to 17.04 but must do 16.04 -> 16.10 -> 17.04)
[16:54] <nacc> mrpeppermint: 'active' -- present and visible, sure
[16:54] <nacc> mrpeppermint: and all of those users can see verythig you type, yes.
[16:54] <mrpeppermint> ooo
[16:55] <Hurthfoo> Hi. Are there any firewalls that prompt the user to allow/deny on outgoing connections?
[16:56] <deitario1> Hurthfoo: I'm not sure what the current state of it is, but I remember one. Give me a sec to track down what its name was.
[16:56] <baizon> Hurthfoo: prompt - no, but you can use gufw. There you can see the connections
[16:56] <Hurthfoo> deitario1, great, thanks
[16:56] <baizon> deitario1: you mean deluge
[16:57] <deitario1> baizon: Deluge is the BitTorrent client I use, not a firewall.
[16:57] <Hurthfoo> baizon, yeah I'm aware of gufw, but that's not suitable
[16:57] <baizon> im sorry
[16:58] <deitario1> There we go. It requires an out-of-tree kernel module and it's developed by one guy, so it's not guaranteed to be compatible with all distros and releases at all times, but Douane is what I was thinking of. --> http://douaneapp.com/
[16:58] <baizon> its not deluge...
[16:58] <baizon> Douane
[16:58] <uxfi> good afternoon all
[16:58] <uxfi> I am drinking a coffee
[16:58] <baizon> https://github.com/Douane/Douane
[16:58] <deitario1> Which, in retrospect, should have been more obvious to me because, as I remember it's a french word that means something in the vein of "customs agent".
[16:59] <nacc> !ot | uxfi
[17:00] <Hurthfoo> deitario1, looks pretty interesting, thank you
[17:02] <Muadabi> hello, i have a dell poweredge 6650 and I just install on him ubuntu server 14.04 lts, my issue: I only see 234 mb of ram from 24 GB
[17:02] <compdoc> Muadabi, its not 64bit?
[17:02] <Muadabi> no
[17:02] <Muadabi> is 32 bit
[17:02] <compdoc> thats why
[17:03] <compdoc> why use 14.04 either? old
[17:03] <Muadabi> but the server it only support 32 bit
[17:03] <nacc> well 234mb of RAM seems wrong regardless of bitsize
[17:03] <compdoc> all depends on how much is alotted to video, etc
[17:03] <nacc> Muadabi: was that a typo? can you pastebin `cat /proc/meminfo` ?
[17:03] <tgm4883> also, I don't think the 3.4GB rule has been true on 32-bit for wahile either
[17:04] <nacc> right, PAE has been on by default, iirc?
[17:04] <tgm4883> yea since like 12.04
[17:04] <nacc> and 3.4GB (or whatever that value was) != 234mb :)
[17:04] <k1l> Muadabi: why would a server inly support 32bit?
[17:04] <compdoc> Muadabi, what is the cpu model?
[17:05] <Muadabi> intel xeon 2000 Mhz
[17:05] <Muadabi>  MemTotal:         243152 kB
[17:05] <nacc> Muadabi: hrm, can you pastebin the full output from `dmesg` ?
[17:05] <nacc> !pastebin | Muadabi
[17:05] <baizon> you got 2.4GB memory?
[17:06] <Muadabi> I don't know how because I'm using a terminal
[17:06] <k1l> Muadabi: can you run "free -m | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here?
[17:06] <nacc> baizon: they said they had physically 24GB
[17:06] <Muadabi> no, i have 24 Gb of ram
[17:06] <nacc> !pastebinit | Muadabi: or this
[17:06] <nacc> Muadabi: pastebinit or nc will work
[17:06] <baizon> Muadabi: is it detected by the bios?
[17:06] <Muadabi> yes
[17:07] <Muadabi> MemTotal:         243152 kB
[17:07] <Muadabi> MemFree:           12640 kB
[17:07] <Muadabi> MemAvailable:     183620 kB
[17:07] <Muadabi> Buffers:            5088 kB
[17:07] <Muadabi> Cached:           162560 kB
[17:07] <Muadabi> SwapCached:           12 kB
[17:07] <nacc> Muadabi: please read what ubottu sent you and what k1l asked
[17:07] <nacc> Muadabi: do *not* paste in the channel
[17:07] <k1l> that is not free and not used with termbin
[17:07] <baizon> to late, hes already muted
[17:08] <nacc> k1l: :)
[17:08] <k1l> baizon: the bot will unmute him again when he is done pasting
[17:08] <Muadabi> Bounce:                0 kB
[17:08] <nacc> baizon: yeah, but they can see what we say, at least
[17:08] <Muadabi> WritebackTmp:          0 kB
[17:08] <nacc> sigh, not if they pasted
[17:08] <Muadabi> CommitLimit:      641764 kB
[17:08] <Muadabi> Committed_AS:      60916 kB
[17:08] <Muadabi> VmallocTotal:     774264 kB
[17:08] <k1l> oh well
[17:08] <Muadabi> VmallocUsed:           0 kB
[17:09] <nikolas> what
[17:09] <Muadabi> sorry
 Muadabi: can you run "free -m | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here?
[17:10] <Muadabi> yes
[17:10] <Muadabi> the output is http://termbin.com/zd62
[17:10] <k1l> Muadabi: is this a vm?
[17:10] <Muadabi> no
[17:11] <k1l> Muadabi: or did you install ubuntu yourself onto the bare metal?
[17:11] <tanuki> Since 18.04 is going to have GNOME as the default shell, will current installs of Ubuntu-GNOME 16.04 be upgradable directly to Ubuntu (main) 18.04?
[17:11] <k1l> Muadabi: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:12] <nacc> tanuki: one can assume that will always be the case
[17:12] <Muadabi> http://termbin.com/qc67
[17:12] <nacc> tanuki: for further questions, please use #ubuntu-discuss
[17:12] <k1l> tanuki: yes, upgrades are not an issue from lts to lts
[17:13] <nacc> Muadabi: hrm, it's not seeing any highmem
[17:13] <woolf> greetins bjornar son of Hornar\
[17:13] <woolf> how do I login with my own nick... sigh
[17:14] <nacc> Muadabi: why aren't you using 64-bit? did anyone confirm their CPU actually is 32-bit only?
[17:14] <compdoc> Muadabi said xeon, but not which xeon
[17:14] <k1l> Muadabi: "sudo lshw | nc termbin.com 9999" this will list all the hardware
[17:14] <Muadabi> I try to install 64 bit and the system and didn't work
[17:15] <Muadabi> Intel(R) XEON(TM) MP CPU 2.00GH
[17:15] <nacc> your BIOS map is bad
[17:15] <compdoc> thats not helpful
[17:15] <nacc> Muadabi: it says only the first two e820 entries are usable
[17:15] <k1l> looks like the dell poweredge 6650 is a really old server which can be accessed with 32bit xeons
[17:16] <nacc> and by my math, that covers about 255MB
[17:16] <nacc> and everything else is marked as reserved by the BIOS
[17:16] <nacc> Muadabi: is there a BIOS update available?
[17:16] <Muadabi> no
[17:16] <k1l> is the ram put in the correct slots?
[17:16] <Muadabi> A17 is the latest one
[17:17] <Muadabi> yes
[17:17] <mrpeppermint> my bluetooth wont work. I have an HP laptop which came preinstalled with win 8. I formatted it completely to ubuntu. Now my bluetooth wont work. I dont understand what is the prob. Also having a wifi connectivity prob.
[17:17] <nacc> Muadabi: your BIOS is physically saying that there is only 256M available to the OS
[17:17] <nacc> Muadabi: not much Ubuntu can do about it
[17:17] <woolf> hey Afrix where r u
[17:17] <nacc> !ot | woolf
[17:17] <compdoc> Muadabi, you ever run memtest86, either from the ubuntu boot menu, or booting from the memtest86 cd?
[17:17] <ducasse> woolf: irc support is in #freenode
[17:17] <Muadabi> compdoc: no
[17:17] <Afrix> here :o
[17:18] <mrpeppermint> can anyone solve my prob.
[17:18] <compdoc> Muadabi, if memtest86 only shows 256M, then your ram is not compatible
[17:18] <mrpeppermint> ??
[17:19] <Muadabi> compdoc: okay, I will try to see what happens
[17:19] <Muadabi> thanks
[17:19] <Muadabi> and if memtest see all the ram memory?
[17:19] <k1l> Muadabi: honestly i would ask dell about this.  here is a checklist: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/servers/f/1466/t/16348594
[17:19] <nacc> !patience | mrpeppermint
[17:19] <Muadabi>              http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/servers/f/1466/t/16348594
[17:19] <compdoc> mrpeppermint, some bluetooth radios are not well supported
[17:19] <Muadabi> sorry
[17:20] <k1l> Muadabi: look at point 4
[17:20] <nacc> k1l: nice find, seems highly likely
[17:20] <compdoc> ^
[17:20] <compdoc> OS Install Mode
[17:20] <Muadabi> k1l: thanks, I set that before to install it
[17:21] <k1l> really really really old hardware, that got a switch  to limit ram to 256mb to not crash some OS bevause of "too much" memory :X
[17:21] <Muadabi> let me see what happens after i uncheck it
[17:21] <compdoc> it wont install unless you set that?
[17:21] <nacc> Muadabi: i don't think you needed to set that for ubuntu to install
[17:22] <Muadabi> nacc: thanks :D
[17:22] <k1l> no, you dont need that mode for ubuntu.
[17:22] <Muadabi> And i will also try one more time with 64 bit
[17:22] <Muadabi> thanks and a nice day :D
[17:23] <lowww> ?
[17:29] <nikolas> ...
[17:30] <DJones> nikolas: This is the support channel for the Ubuntu operating system, if
[17:31] <DJones> nikolas: This is the support channel for the Ubuntu operating system, if  you have support question, you're welcome toask it, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:32] <lowww> jm
[17:32] <lowww>
[17:32] <kang0> Should I choose i5 7th gen +4gb or i5 6th gen +8gb ram laptop?
[17:33] <nacc> kang0: that's not really a suitable topic for this channel
[17:33] <OerHeks> kang0, choose, don't blame us for your choise/
[17:35] <DJones> kang0: Depends on your use, although spamming the same question in #freenode and here isn't likely to get anymore responses, this channel is for Ubuntu support, not hardware what shall I buy
[17:52] <Guest16001> hello
[17:53] <Guest16001> hello
[17:54] <k1l> hi
[17:58] <Doow> Hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu (16.10) on a machine, everything looks like it's going well until it's time to reboot the computer. I can't get either legacy or efi to work.
[17:59] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, What happens when you boot?
[18:00] <Schzd> Hello! i need help with installing ubuntu without interfering with any windows 10 things.
[18:02] <Azulflame> Schzd, the Ubuntu installer (assumming you aren't installing Ubuntu Server) should have an option to "Install alongside Windows"
[18:03] <Schzd> but that mess with the MBR. as far as I know. I don't want that.
[18:03] <Schzd> Also it gives me Error with UEFI...
[18:03] <Azulflame> you need to mess with the MBR to install grub to be able to boot to Ubuntu. GRUB will also allow you to boot into Windows
[18:04] <PipeItToDevNull> Schzd, Are you on an EFI system?
[18:04] <Azulflame> I don't handle UEFI, but make sure that Secure/Fast boot is disabled
[18:04] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:04] <PipeItToDevNull> Azulflame, Secure boot can stay enabled
[18:04] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: if I'm using legacy when I try to boot I just get "Reboot and Select proper Boot device
[18:04] <Doow> or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device" If I use UEFI I can select the drive to boot from once in BIOS, however it doesn't use it and instead boots windows (I'm going for dualboot). If I go in to bios again after that the ubuntu boot disk isn't listed as bootable anymore.
[18:05] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, to maintain a dualboot you must use EFI, as once an OS is instaleld it cannot be launched in legacy (Your Windows is EFI) I have no experience installing Windows first in an EFI environment and a user yesterday had the same issue, it was not resolved.
[18:06] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: oh :(
[18:06] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, I beleive the issue lies in Windows not sharing it's EFI partition
[18:07] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: even if I have two different physical drives for windows and ubuntu?
[18:07] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, I am unsure
[18:08] <akik> how do i change unity/ambiance ui text colours? i have black text on gray background in the top application menu
[18:08] <Azulflame> one drive holds the boot records. It simply points to the other drive
[18:08] <nacc> Doow: well efi is not about your disks but is a bios setting -- i would keep it in efi mode
[18:09] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, if you boot the live USB, what is the output of "efibootmgr -v" ?
[18:09] <PipeItToDevNull> Assuming your current install was done as EFI
[18:10] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: let me check =)
[18:10] <Doow> it's set to efi right now btw
[18:10] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, Pastebin the output, as well as "lsblk"
[18:21] <hellrazor_> hello =)
[18:21] <PipeItToDevNull> Hello
[18:21] <Scungielli>  how do I make it so that I don't have to enter a password to get back to my desktop after the screen saver comes on?  new install of lubuntu here
[18:21] <hellrazor_> where can i find the default used acpi event rules?
[18:24] <raj> I'm doing `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` but I get this error:
[18:24] <raj> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[18:24] <raj> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:24] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: http://paste2.org/BBeNjLWn (bonus output from Boot-Repair: http://paste2.org/eF9atGNK )
[18:25] <nacc> raj: is something else running (possibly in the background) like update-manager?
[18:25] <raj> nacc, no idea
[18:25] <Doow> Note, this is directly after installation, I'm not sure if anything is destroyed when rebooting
[18:25] <raj> I'm running ubuntu-server
[18:25] <nacc> raj: you can see that wiwth `sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock`
[18:26] <raj> nacc, no output
[18:27] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, So the EFI entry, 0001 is for Ubuntu, it seems to be formed fine. If you mount /dev/sdc3 does the file /EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi exist?
[18:27] <nacc> raj: it's possible whatever was running has dropped the lock, does it still occur?
[18:27] <craigs_> question: we are running active/active bond between two 10gb ports. Running ubuntu 16.10. we have the hdwadress ether set for both nics, and find that after a reboot that the mac address changes to the other nic during a reboot. Is there a way in active/aactive to stay on one default mac for the bond?
[18:27] <raj> nacc, still happening
[18:28] <sohel> i have two things to ask
[18:28] <PipeItToDevNull> sohel, shoot
[18:29] <sohel> i have ubuntu gnome 16.04 how do i install gdm,plymouth and grub themes
[18:29] <raj> nacc, got it solved
[18:29] <raj> I was not sudoing the second half of that command after &&
[18:30] <nacc> raj: hrm, you typed above that you were?
[18:30] <nacc> craigs_: may be better asked in #ubuntu-server
[18:30] <scottjl> sohel:  google can help you find a lot of what you're looking for.. try http://ubuntuguide.net/beautify-grub-2-boot-loader-by-installing-themes
[18:30] <craigs_> ack thanks
[18:30] <sohel> i already did, but its confusing and they are guiding as per their DE
[18:31] <sohel> may be only tel me how do i install GDM theme if you know
[18:31] <scottjl> i don't use gdm. sorry
[18:31] <sohel> PipeItToDevNull
[18:32] <PipeItToDevNull> sohel, gdm and plymouth should already be installed
[18:32] <sohel> PipeItToDevNull: the custom theme which i want to install
[18:33] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: I can't mount it, mount seems to default it to ntfs, but then says "the device '/dev/sdc3' doesn't seem to have a valid ntfs"
[18:33] <PipeItToDevNull> sohel, I am unsure with themes, I run without a DM. customize-grub is a package that may help you
[18:33] <sohel> they other things is how do i transparent or customize it, for every software same background or transparent,
[18:33] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, A EFI partition should be Fat32
[18:33] <Doow> gparted says that the type is 'unknown'
[18:34] <sohel> browser, and everything with same background or
[18:34] <sohel> transpare
[18:34] <sohel> transparent
[18:34] <sohel> PipeItToDevNull
[18:34] <PipeItToDevNull> sohel, Are you confusing a grub theme with a GTK theme?
[18:35] <raj> nacc, not sure what you mean? that sounded like yoda
[18:35] <raj> also brb, need to reboot
[18:36] <sohel> PipeItToDevNull: no, leave that, tell me about customizing background of every software/app window, whatever, it has to be for every not only for system, chrome, and all
[18:36] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: that'd be vfat in mount lingo? mount can't mount it as vfat either way =(
[18:36] <RonaldsMazitis> I have ubuntu 16.04 and my unity has problem keeping icons on desktop in way I want them to be, they get sorted everytime
[18:36] <RonaldsMazitis> I log in
[18:36] <RonaldsMazitis> that's not a valid argument for ubuntu to switch to gnome
[18:36] <RonaldsMazitis> gnome is half baked unity , whoever wanted ubuntu to switch to gnome should rethink
[18:37] <PipeItToDevNull> sohel, You are looking for a GTK theme such as "Arc"
[18:37] <RonaldsMazitis> anybody knows how to fix auto sorting problem
[18:37] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, it would be fat32
[18:37] <OerHeks> sohel, investigate "every software/app window" ... gdm themes should apply to them, unless they have their own setting, so check yourself in the settings
[18:37] <kostkon> RonaldsMazitis, right click on the desktop and deselect the Align Desktop Icons?
[18:37] <kostkon> RonaldsMazitis, right click on the desktop and deselect the Align Desktop Icons?
[18:38] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat32'
[18:38] <RonaldsMazitis> yeah, but they autosort on login every time
[18:38] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't put folder on one side, icons on other, and wait for them to stay in same place
[18:38] <nacc> Doow: iirc it's 'vfat' in ubuntu
[18:39] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, nacc is right, I just checked my fstab
[18:39] <RonaldsMazitis> this might be because I come from 14.04 when I upgraded to 16.04
[18:39] <kostkon> RonaldsMazitis, and I'm guessing 'Sort Desktop Icons by Name' is also disabled
[18:39] <Doow> nacc, PipeItToDevNull: ok, doesn't work :(
[18:39] <PipeItToDevNull> Doow, Which could be why the system doesnt boot
[18:40] <BlitzerHound> Would it be possible to use a crack for a program installed with wine on ubuntu?
[18:40] <baizon> BlitzerHound: "crack"?
[18:41] <Doow> PipeItToDevNull: yeah, it would explain things
[18:41] <PipeItToDevNull> BlitzerHound, We like FOSS, not pirating
[18:41] <nacc> !illegal | BlitzerHound
[18:41] <RonaldsMazitis> he means cocaine in rock form
[18:41] <BlitzerHound> Oh. :/ My bad.
[18:42] <BlitzerHound> That would probably not be a very legal discussion either Ronald lmao
[18:42] <vogt> ih
[18:43] <BlitzerHound> So I was using WINE the other day and I accidentally made it pop up this little window that looked like a windows desktop. Does anyone know the command to do that manually?
[18:43] <vogt> what's gonna happen when ubuntu deprecates unity?
[18:43] <faugusztin> vogt: Gnome or KDE
[18:43] <faugusztin> vogt: officially Gnome
[18:43] <faugusztin> vogt: but you can install other Gnome forks like Mate, or KDE
[18:43] <PipeItToDevNull> vogt, Unity is being forked to a community project called Yunit, Ubuntu will switch to a Gnome DE
[18:44] <k1l> vogt: happen in what way? unity will be put in the universe repo and some community teams want to see if they can maintain it.
[18:44] <vogt> faugusztin but gnome doesn't have a lot of stuff like Super+W for expose, or showing toolbar on the top of the screen
[18:44] <vogt> neither it has compiz and all of its features
[18:44] <faugusztin> vogt: as certain politician would say: "SAD!". but that is pretty much all we can do about it :)
[18:45] <vogt> are you going to add those features to gnome?
[18:45] <BlitzerHound> What's the channel for wine stuff again?
[18:45] <ChaiTRex> !wine
[18:45] <k1l> BlitzerHound: #winehq
[18:45] <BlitzerHound> Thanks
[18:45] <nacc> vogt: this is the wrong channel to ask about adding features
[18:45] <nacc> vogt: this is the user support channel
[18:45] <Southern_Gentlem> vogt,  so work at making the gnome-shell extensions to do that and push it to gnome
[18:46] <k1l> vogt: the target for gnome-shell as standard desktop is 18.04. so we still have some time to figure out
[18:46] <vogt> it'd be nice to keep what makes unity great :3
[18:46] <k1l> vogt: there are forming community teams trying to keep unity in the repos, yes.
[18:47] <nacc> vogt: are you referring to unity8 specifically? because unity7 will stay as-is
[18:47] <nacc> vogt: just not the default (afaict)
[18:47] <PipeItToDevNull> vogt, https://github.com/yunit-io/yunit
[18:47] <vogt> how can i know what version of unity i have?
[18:48] <tapanik> ubuntu 16.04 bluetooth symbol and connection offline
[18:48] <k1l> vogt: the regular desktop is unity7
[18:48] <Bashing-om> vogt: unity os on 16.04 - and is a LTS release . 16.04 (unity) will be supported 'til 2019 . We have lots of time to figure things out :)
[18:48] <nacc> vogt: unity8 is a tech preview, you would have to hvae installed it
[18:48] <baizon> vogt: unity --version
[18:48] <vogt> ahh i see!
[18:48] <nacc> vogt: if you don't know, then you are probably on unity7
[18:48] <vogt> i'll find a way to install it to check itout then
[18:48] <k1l> vogt: and that will work as long as xorg works
[18:48] <tapanik> bluetooth is dead
[18:48] <tapanik> ubuntu 16.04
[18:48] <nacc> vogt: there's no point in installing unity8, imo
[18:48] <nacc> vogt: i mean, you can i guess but it won't really show you anything that you'll actually see in 18.04 as it will be, if that's your intent
[18:49] <vogt> tapanik: try sudo hciconfig hci0 down && sudo hciconfig hci0 up
[18:49] <vogt> nacc i see, i won't then
[18:50] <vogt> can't wait to see how ubuntu's implementation of gnome looks like
[18:50] <nacc> vogt: ... you can already?
[18:50] <kostkon> vogt, they won't change a thing
[18:50] <nacc> vogt: just run gnome ubuntu as it is now
[18:50] <kostkon> vogt, it's gonna be vanilla gnome shell
[18:50] <Bashing-om> vogt: gnome3 in 17.04 is slick .
[18:50] <vogt> oh
[18:50] <Nery> vogt: probably not much different than default gnome …
[18:50] <tapanik> "cant get device info"
[18:50] <vogt> i thought it would be customized
[18:50] <tapanik> no such device
[18:51] <nacc> vogt: no, it won't be
[18:51] <kostkon> vogt, nope
[18:51] <vogt> like, the effort that was currently going to improve unity, is not moving to gnome?
[18:51] <Nery> vogt: well, there's (probably) still gonna be the gtk+ theme and stuff …
[18:51] <faugusztin> Bashing-om: 2019 ? Isn't Ubuntu LTS Support a 5 year thing ?
[18:51] <Nery> Or is that abandoned now too?
[18:51] <faugusztin> Bashing-om: thus 2016.04 + 5 = 2021.04 ?
[18:51] <nacc> yeah, 2021, faugusztin
[18:52] <compdoc> I think I read that the ubuntu's gnome3 will be customized to fit the OS
[18:52] <Bashing-om> faugusztin: Uh huh .. my bad -- correct to be 2021 . :)
[18:52] <faugusztin> You were probably doing the math from 14.04 :)
[18:52] <nacc> compdoc: no, you can read mark's blog posts for details
[18:52] <kostkon> compdoc, not according to mark shuttleworth https://plus.google.com/+MarkShuttleworthCanonical/posts/7LYubpaHUHH
[18:58] <compdoc> not sure where it says it in that url, but does mention integration and experience. anyway, not for this channel, I suppose
[18:59] <kostkon> compdoc, read his comments below
[19:07] <nifd> does anyone have a working example of a preseed configuration that installs the OS to a disk that is not /dev/sda? And preferaly some form of /dev/disk/by-path?
[19:11] <raub> Running 16.04 here connecting to anothe rbox using xtightvncviwer. Mouse works but keyboard stopped working
[19:11] <raub> If I vnc to same machine from a Mac, it works fine
[19:12] <raub> Can't find anything in syslog in the 16.04 box
[19:12] <raub> I can rdp to other machines fine
[19:23] <lnx_> someone?
[19:23] <lnx_> eanybody here?
[19:23] <lnx_> hi there?
[19:23] <koffeinfriedhof> !ask | lnx_
[19:24] <lnx_> i cant install a printer in ubuntu :( help
[19:24] <DarkPsydeLord> just give us more information
[19:25] <danlii> How can I disable dns masquerading altogether in Ubuntu 17.04? It's not as easy with systemd-resolved as it was with dnsmasq.
[19:25] <lnx_> is a l800 epson
[19:25] <lnx_> i cant find the driver for ubuntu D:
[19:25] <nacc> danlii: #ubuntu+1 please

[19:27] <xangua> !find printers-all
[19:29] <xangua> !info printer-driver-all | lnx_
[19:38] <deitario1> I'm trying to fix a broken keymap for a specific device (it maps a specialty key to "b") but I'm having trouble with the udev rules. According to the docs I found, the new way doesn't apply to udev 204 (which 14.04 LTS has), but my system is missing the /lib/udev/keymap binary that wasn't supposed to be removed until 205 brought the new mechanism. Any advice?
[19:40] <deitario1> (I already tried remapping it in the XKB layer, but X11 seems to be confused into thinking it's a pointer that produces keypresses by the fact that the generic Chinese components advertise a bunch of USB HID capabilities that aren't actually wired up to anything.)
[19:40] <hid> hmm?
[19:41] <deitario1> It's a USB foot pedal that should be producing something like XF86PlayPause, but produces "b" instead, and I can't get XKB-level remapping to work... possibly because xinput sees it as a pointer rather than a keyboard... which I assume is because of the forest of phantom capabilities evtest reports it "supporting".
[19:54] <dell469> hi anyone here? how can i install ubuntu on dell xps with uefi enabled and windows 10 preinstalled? when i try to install it from liveusb, the main hard drive is not listed.
[19:56] <dell822> sorry for spaming. i got disconnected. here's the question: hi anyone here? how can i install ubuntu on dell xps with uefi enabled and windows 10 preinstalled? when i try to install it from liveusb, the main hard drive is not listed.
[19:56] <deitario1> Ugh. I wish people would stick around for answers. The most likely answer is that he needs to go into the BIOS and switch the hard drive controller from Intel RAID to AHCI mode.
[19:56] <ikonia> dell822: is the hard disk encrypted
[19:56] <dell822> ikonia
[19:56] <dell822> nop
[19:56] <k1l> dell822: is the drive in gpt mode? or msdos mode?
[19:56] <dell822> i decrypted it in windows 10
[19:56] <dell822> i couldn't shrink the partition without doing that
[19:56] <dell822> i then managed to shrink the partition, so i could install ubuntu on it
[19:56] <dell822> but to no avail
[19:56] <k1l> dell822: "sudo gparted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:56] <xangua> !UEFI | dell469 did you disabled fast boot and turned off windows properly?
[19:56] <ikonia> dell822: So it is an encypted drive
[19:56] <dell822> it still doesn't show in the installation screen
[19:57] <cgundersson> dell822~ you need to take the disk out of raid mode in bios
[19:57] <k1l> dell822: yes, cgundersson got a good point, ahci mode works, "intel"raid mode doesnt
[19:57] <k1l> (due to no linux drivers available)
[19:57] <dell822> aaa
[19:57] <dell822> ok
[19:57] <deitario1> Modern laptops with Intel chipsets default to a special hard drive controller mode designed to use a special Intel driver that's more power-efficient than Microsoft's built-in AHCI driver.
[19:57] <dell822> i know that it's in raid mode
[19:58] <dell822> maybe that will help
[19:58] <bytesaber> Is the cron syntax correct, on the example in part 7?    https://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror_p2
[19:58] <cgundersson> dell822~ what k1l said :)
[19:58] <dell822> should i also disable secure boot?
[19:58] <deitario1> Unfortunately, Linux doesn't have a built-in driver for this "Intel RAID" mode either.
[19:58] <cgundersson> dell822~ note that windows 10 will be unable to boot when you do that
[19:58] <cgundersson> it won't find the disk
[19:59] <dell822> if i disable secure boot or if i change from raid to ahci?
[19:59] <cgundersson> so wither you switch to UHCI and reinstall everything, or you need to turn raid on/off between boots
[19:59] <cgundersson> raid to ahci
[19:59] <dell822> hm... damn :P
[20:00] <deitario1> Really? I hadn't heard that about Windows 10. What does it do on AMD-based machines then?
[20:00] <cgundersson> well, i just entered bios, turned raid on again and booted into win 10
[20:00] <cgundersson> ymmv
[20:01] <k1l> cgundersson: i am not that sure, if that counts for all mainboards and windows installs. i think it might be changed to ahci and windows still works.
[20:02] <cgundersson> k1l~ well, it didn't work for me but might for others
[20:05] <RonaldsMazitis> anybody knows how do change default file manager for applications
[20:05] <RonaldsMazitis> every application wants nautilus
[20:23] <omenius> umm, I think I just pretty much removed everything from file manager to hexchat with one command
[20:23] <omenius> can I undo apt-get remove somehow? :D
[20:23] <ChaiTRex> omenius: What command did you run?
[20:24] <omenius> apt-get remove glib2.0
[20:24] <OerHeks> undo apt-get remove > apt-get install <package>
[20:24] <ChaiTRex> OerHeks: That isn't likely to work here, since installing glib2.0 won't install things that depend on it.
[20:24] <omenius> ^
[20:25] <ChaiTRex> omenius: Do you have the listing of what it was removing still in your terminal?
[20:25] <OerHeks> ChaiTRex, really? that is what install -f is for, fixing dependencies
[20:25] <ChaiTRex> OerHeks: Yes, things that the library depends on, not things that depend on the library.
[20:25] <faugusztin> omnigoat: RIP, go for reinstall
[20:26] <omenius> ChaiTRex: Nah, it's not in history.. :/
[20:26] <nacc> OerHeks: i think ChaiTRex means that removing glib2.0 and saying yes to what depending on it being removed won't make those things come back by reinstalling just the thing you removed
[20:26] <nacc> omenius: right, you'd need to basically 'undo' what /var/log/apt/history.log said
[20:26] <faugusztin> yeah, you would have to parse by hand what you have uninstalled
[20:27] <nacc> omenius: not terminal history, but apt's history
[20:27] <omenius> nacc: niiice, I found the list
[20:28] <omenius> lol, my desktop environment is there :qq
[20:28] <ChaiTRex> I've got to remember that log file. I only use it once in a blue moon.
[20:29] <omenius> I find it fun that all the software (except filemanager) kept still running and I got a chance to come here :D
[20:29] <synthetiq> for passwordless ssh setup... i keep seeing "ssh-keygen -t rsa..." for the setup.  is it possible to use "ssh-keygen -t ecdsa ..." for the setup?  if so, are we suppose to set a password or not?  (the password is only for the secret, not the pub, right?)
[20:30] <ChaiTRex> synthetiq: I think that'll work. Setting a password is recommended to avoid people stealing the key file and using it.
[20:32] <ChaiTRex> synthetiq: Oh, and the password is only for the private key, yes.
[20:33] <synthetiq> ChaiTRex, thanks!  i just wanted to make sure that when i copy over the pub to the other computer it wouldn't ask for that set password.  kinda negates the point of 'passwordless ssh' .  thanks again, i'll give it a try!
[20:34] <ChaiTRex> synthetiq: Your end will ask for the password to use the key.
[20:34] <ChaiTRex> synthetiq: If you want to completely avoid bothering with the entry of a password, don't put a password on your key.
[20:42] <nicomachus> hi all. I'm not getting able to resolve DNS on any webpage when any VPN is connected... not sure why. I have tried 2 completely different VPNs. I have no DNS issues when I disconnect the VPN
[20:43] <nicomachus> where to even start?
[20:43] <omenius> this did the trick, without doing it by hand (there is >100 packages): https://paste.ubuntu.com/24356664/
[20:43] <omenius> found it from ubuntuask
[20:43] <sipior> synthetiq: look into "keychain" (http://www.funtoo.org/Keychain), which greatly diminishes the pain of key-based authentication.
[20:44] <sipior> synthetiq: it's in the main ubuntu repositories as well
[20:45] <omenius> now it's like I never f*ckd up
[20:45] <omenius> (:
[20:49] <sipior> nicomachus: depending on how your vpn is configured, you're probably tunneling dns requests as well. are you sure that service is reachable from your vpn endpoint?
[20:50] <nicomachus> sipior: should be. but I have tried two different VPN services, which makes me think it's a problem on my end.
[20:50] <nicomachus> I tried both PIA and NordVPN
[20:51] <sipior> nicomachus: but have you confirmed that they are in fact reachable?
[20:51] <nicomachus> yes? what do you mean by reachable?
[20:51] <sipior> nicomachus: you can make a dns request and they answer back
[20:51] <nicomachus> I get a resolution error
[20:52] <sipior> nicomachus: use the ip address and see if you can connect. try "dig google.com @<dns ip>"
[20:54] <nicomachus> sipior: like this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24356744/
[20:54] <sipior> nicomachus: yep.
[20:55] <nicomachus> that was with NordVPN connected. but I still couldn't resolve a webpage
[20:55] <sipior> nicomachus: check to see what's in your /etc/resolv.conf.
[20:56] <nicomachus> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:57] <sipior> nicomachus: try editing that line to point to the nameserver you want. restart your browser and give it a go.
[20:57] <nicomachus> like, to google or another DNS?
[20:58] <sipior> nicomachus: whatever you want.
[20:58] <nicomachus> (fyi, networking is NOT my forte)
[20:59] <nicomachus> sipior: I'm able to resolve now.
[21:00] <nicomachus> is that going to be over-written though?
[21:00] <sipior> nicomachus: yes. now you need to ensure that that file is set correctly when establishing the tunnel
[21:00] <nicomachus> ok
[21:01] <marvin3> hi
[21:01] <marvin3> if I have several files with same base name  but different extension can I rename them all like this? mv basename.* differentbasename.*
[21:01] <sipior> nicomachus: nordvpn has some pretty extensive tutorials; should get you up and running.
[21:01] <ChaiTRex> marvin3: No. Use the `rename` command.