[07:23] <dholbach> good morning
[07:24] <silverlion> dholbach: good morning it is indeed :D
[07:28] <dholbach> hi silverlion
[07:28] <silverlion> o/ dholbach
[07:28] <silverlion> I'm sorry I'm still a little bit freakin out about my new job opportunity ;)
[07:32] <elfy> morning all
[07:33] <silverlion> morning elfy
[07:35] <dholbach> job opportunity? :)
[07:47]  * silverlion has signed a three-year job training to become an it specialist
[07:48] <dholbach> nice! whereabouts?
[07:51] <silverlion> Germany ;)
[07:51] <dholbach> righhhhht :)
[07:52] <elfy> ha
[07:53] <silverlion> or did I get you wrong dholbach
[07:53] <silverlion> ?
[07:53] <silverlion> elfy: why ha?
[07:54] <elfy> I think it was more specific than country dholbach was aiming for :)
[07:54] <dholbach> no no - I just thought you were going to be a bit more specific, but that's alright :)
[07:54] <silverlion> dholbach: then tell me what specifics you meant
[07:54] <silverlion> ;)
[07:55] <dholbach> in which part of Germany :)
[07:56] <dholbach> because I always thought you were somewhere in Germany :)
[07:56] <silverlion> dholbach: Nordrhein-Westfalen
[07:56] <silverlion> near the famous "Movie Park Germany" ;)
[07:57] <dholbach> ahhhh ok, cool
[07:57]  * dholbach studied in Dortmund for a while :)
[07:57] <dholbach> ... and got to know mvo there
[07:57] <silverlion> Dortmund is 90 mins by train from my location
[07:58] <popey> morning
[08:00] <dholbach> hey popey
[08:00] <silverlion> o/ popey
[08:17] <popey> uh. ubuntu-app-devel mailing list suddenly got a flood of very old mail
[08:17] <popey> oh, i see dholbach has mailed :)
[08:18] <popey> dholbach: gimmie the password and I'll add it to my listadmin
[08:18]  * popey considers putting listadmin on his phone
[08:30] <dholbach> popey, good luck putting perl on the phone :)
[08:30] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ perl -v
[08:30] <popey> This is perl 5, version 20, subversion 2 (v5.20.2) built for arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int
[08:30] <popey> (with 39 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)
[08:30] <popey> :þ
[08:30] <dholbach> oh
[09:55] <czajkowski> c
[11:45] <davidcalle> dholbach, ping
[11:47] <dholbach> davidcalle, pong
[11:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11431122/
[11:48] <davidcalle> dholbach, I should probably add a few comments to that :)
[11:49] <davidcalle> dholbach, in any case, tell me if that works for you
[11:49]  * davidcalle is welcoming suggestions
[11:49] <dholbach> cool - thanks a lot
[11:51] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've removed all the "get published page and try to diff it against the new doc" bits, the source of the published page can be VERY confusing (eg. em tags added because why not and funky indentation)
[11:54] <davidcalle> dholbach, btw, regarding jdstrand comments on "meta" (some nested list issues iirc), multiple markdown parsers gave the same result, so I "think" that the issue is on the doc itself.
[11:55] <dholbach> davidcalle, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11431252/
[11:55] <dholbach> maybe you can put it up in a branch?
[11:55] <dholbach> maybe a +junk branch
[11:56] <davidcalle> dholbach, heh, works on my machine :p
[11:56] <davidcalle> dholbach, indeed
[11:56] <dholbach> 'ippie!
[11:56] <dholbach> where do I get MAP from?
[11:58] <davidcalle> dholbach, constant at the top of the file
[11:59] <davidcalle> dholbach, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntudeveloperportal-editors/+junk/snappy-docs/
[11:59] <dholbach> thanks davidcalle
[12:00] <dholbach> davidcalle, oh - I think that was removed in my attempts to remove the ^Ms
[12:00] <davidcalle> dholbach, the "^Ms" ?
[12:01] <dholbach> davidcalle, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11431359/
[12:02] <dholbach> great work - the version from the branch works now
[12:02] <dholbach> I'll poke a bit at it
[12:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, huh, as long as it works now :)
[12:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, new backlog item for the script : run a markdown linter on sources and automatically file a bug for each markdown issue...  0:-)
[12:12] <dholbach> yeah
[12:12] <dholbach> that's not as easy
[12:12] <dholbach> the markdown command and the markdown library are both very forgiving
[12:12] <dholbach> "yeah, not quite sure what this means, but I'll proceed anyway"
[12:34] <balloons> a belated good morning to you all
[12:44] <popey> hello balloons
[15:05] <davidcalle> dholbach, popey, mhall119, balloons?
[15:05] <mhall119> oh right, standup
[15:08] <mhall119> so basically most of yesterday was CC work, I lost a speaker for UbuCon@SELF so I'm trying to fill that slot again. Had a sync call with willcooke about my convergence work items over the next cycle, no blockers
[15:08] <balloons> indeed indeed
[15:10] <balloons> For me, tidying up the MP dholbach agreed to yesterday but backed out on :-)  and fixing the qml templates after review. Next up is autopilot test runners and scopes docs
[15:10] <dholbach> For me it was lots of small stuff, like:
[15:10] <dholbach>  - snappy: reviewed markdown script from David and had a look at internal docs
[15:10] <dholbach>  - help-app: pushed another web update
[15:10] <dholbach>  - help-app: reviewed balloons' MP, need to think about a good way to
[15:10] <dholbach>    separate web/phone tests
[15:10] <dholbach>  - UbuConDE: discussion about an app contest
[15:10] <dholbach>  - UbuConDE: some planning discussions
[15:10] <dholbach>  - (misc) CC business
[15:10] <dholbach> Still blocked on RT#79340
[15:12] <davidcalle> DONE: duc/snappy fixes,trunk/snappy markdown fixes, some work on the blog post about obsoleting the scopes privacy flag in unity8 (waiting for thostr final touch)
[15:12] <davidcalle> DOING a demo app for QML/C++ tutorial
[15:12] <davidcalle> BLOCKED on nothing
[15:12] <mhall119> dholbach: can you remind me what that RT is about?
[15:12] <mhall119> davidcalle: are you unblocked on all the scope tutorials you had on your list?
[15:12] <dholbach> help.ubuntu.com/devices doing content negotiation properly
[15:13] <dholbach> like index.{de,es,pl,it,en}.html
[15:13] <mhall119> dholbach: you mean it defaulting to Polish docs?
[15:13] <dholbach> it's evidently not set up correctly
[15:13] <mhall119> ok
[15:13] <dholbach> IS told me that it was more work than expected - I didn't quite understand why
[15:13] <davidcalle> mhall119, yes, but the qml/c++ has been added at the top of the pile
[15:13] <dholbach> but I'll ping them again on Monday
[15:13] <mhall119> is that the one you've been asking dpm about, or a new one?
[15:13] <dholbach> they're busy with prodstack now anyway
[15:13] <mhall119> davidcalle: ack, I just wanted to make sure the other stuff was still being unblocked, thanks
[15:14] <dholbach> it's nothing huge, but it'd still be nice to get it off my list :)
[15:14]  * mhall119 nods
[15:15] <dholbach> that's it from me
[15:15] <popey> DONE: Fix issues with podcast site post release
[15:15] <popey> Testing profile management in Terminal app
[15:15] <popey> Setting up device for testing convergence of core apps
[15:15] <popey> Supporting community developers on SDL issues
[15:15] <popey> DOING: Testing Notes rename of reminders
[15:16] <popey> NEXT: Convergence compliance testing of all core apps
[15:16] <popey> BLOCKED: Nothing
[15:16] <mhall119> popey: what device are you using for convergence testing?
[15:16] <popey> A thinkpad.
[15:16] <mhall119> touch screen?
[15:17] <popey> not touch (which I think is a good thing)
[15:17] <popey> nope
[15:17] <mhall119> are you using Unity 7 or 8?
[15:17] <popey> 8
[15:17] <popey> because it has a keyboard and mouse
[15:17] <popey> and as such, the apps should behave correctly, if they don't, it's a bug
[15:17] <mhall119> popey: cool, can I get the model info from you? I'm going to setup a wiki page of "works for converged desktop" devices for people who want to test-drive it
[15:17] <balloons> popey, did we hear back from CI at all? It's day 3 for me and still nothing. Did they talk with you?
[15:17] <popey> i will once i get it working :)
[15:18] <popey> no balloons nothing
[15:18] <mhall119> popey: :)
[15:18] <popey> its all intel though so shouldn't be a problem
[15:18] <popey> (lulz)
[15:18] <mhall119> famous last words
[15:19] <davidcalle> popey, which image are you using for unity8, the "daily next" one or something else (or building trunk?)
[15:19] <popey> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/backup-20150422/
[15:19] <popey> that one
[15:19] <popey> (currently)
[15:20] <davidcalle> popey, "backup" because this is last vivid build?
[15:20] <davidcalle> the last*
[15:20] <popey> i think it's last known good, yes.
[15:21] <popey> I'll test this and the daily one.
[15:21] <mhall119> IIRC, they were going to stop providing .deb based images of Desktop Next so they could focus on snappy-based ones, but I'm not sure that's happened yet
[15:21] <popey> yes
[15:21] <popey> it doesn't work yet
[15:21] <popey> problems booting on UEFI systems
[15:21] <popey> hence why I'm using the above image
[15:22] <mhall119> I'm not surprised, it's so very new
[15:22] <popey> ya
[15:22] <popey> so next week is all about convergence for me :)
[15:22] <dholbach> woohoo
[15:22] <dholbach> what a brave soul! :)
[15:22] <davidcalle> Nice :)
[15:22] <popey> hah
[15:23] <dholbach> all rightie... are we done?
[15:23] <popey> I am.
[15:24] <dholbach> in which case I'm going to call it a day and a week and go out while the sun is still shining
[15:24] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone
[15:24] <popey> Excellent plan
[15:24] <dholbach> have a great weekend!
[15:24] <popey> Have a great weekend!
[15:25] <davidcalle> popey, dholbach, same to you!
[15:26] <dholbach> thanks :)
[15:47]  * davidcalle waves, have a nice weekend all
[17:14] <popey> mhall119: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/ubuntu-update/id999805982
[17:17] <czajkowski> hah
[17:26] <popey> dammit, unity next doesn't work on my thinkpad
[17:26] <popey> I thought Mir worked on all intel machines
[17:54] <mhall119> popey: \o/
[17:54] <mhall119> I'm famous now :)
[17:55] <popey> haha
[17:55] <mhall119> popey: Mir works on *all* intel machines that Mir works on
[17:55] <mhall119> popey: what chipset do you have?
[17:56]  * popey boots it to find out
[17:57] <popey> I installed unity next onto a usb stick so I can boot it on various machines :)
[18:10] <jcastro> hey have they merged the desktopish branch into the dailies yet?
[18:10] <popey> mhall119: intel 965 - a bit old
[18:26] <popey> mhall119: I think lunduke is just playing at being dumb _really_ well
[18:26] <popey> He's clearly intentionally calling it the "Canonical Community Council" as he's been corrected multiple times.
[18:26] <popey> just trolling now
[18:45] <jcastro> well of course he is
[18:45] <jcastro> he's also really fun to hang out with though
[18:45] <jcastro> that's part of his charm I guess
[18:46] <czajkowski> jcastro: charm usually means nice  not trolling
[18:47] <jcastro> there's pretty much no escape from any of this
[18:47] <jcastro> it's already a popularity contest, except everyone loses
[18:47] <jcastro> if people who write linux blogs have to ask "does anyone know how to get ahold of such-and-such a council?"
[18:48] <popey> its not helped by people with a big mouth(piece) being deliberately wrong to trigger reactions
[18:48] <popey> it's maddeningly childish
[18:48] <jcastro> well, some of us have the luxury of hitting "m" on their mail client
[18:48] <jcastro> but councils don't have that.
[18:51] <jcastro> czajkowski: this benchmark you guys did looks awesome
[18:52] <czajkowski> thanks :)
[18:52] <czajkowski> it's gonna be a manic week next week except more stuff like that coming
[18:52] <czajkowski> popey: ot any mobile folks in SF/Ca area ?
[18:52] <czajkowski> mobile workshops next Tuesday
[18:52] <czajkowski> and server also
[18:53] <czajkowski> if anyone else is interested
[18:53] <jcastro> marcoceppi: http://blog.couchbase.com/couchbase-server-hits-1m-writes-with-3b-items-with-50-nodes-on-google-cloud
[19:20] <czajkowski> jcastro: popey if you know folks in the area in san fran who are interested the event has a free reg code now and I can also see if I can get you a code for the workshops
[19:49] <jcastro> czajkowski: hey you guys have offices on the west coast?
[19:49] <czajkowski> yup
[19:49] <czajkowski> two in fact
[19:49] <czajkowski> one on Mission St in SF and our larger HQ in Mountain View
[19:50] <czajkowski> the inbvasion takes place next week
[19:50] <jcastro> hey so if you have people going to dockercon at the end of june
[19:50] <czajkowski> tueday full day of workshops in the Levi's stadium wed and thurs 2 days of talks and keynotes
[19:50] <jcastro> yelp is going to host an orchestration panel the night before
[19:50] <jcastro> we're sponsoring, got booze, etc.
[19:50] <czajkowski> ohh nice
[19:50] <jcastro> https://insights.ubuntu.com/event/conducting-systems-and-services-an-evening-about-orchestration/
[19:51] <jcastro> tell them to reg thru eventbrite as soon as they can, or I'll run out of shirts.
[19:51] <czajkowski> nods will do
[19:52] <pleia2> czajkowski: you're welcome to share in #ubuntu-us-ca too
[19:52] <czajkowski> ahhh
[19:52] <czajkowski> yes
[20:09] <marcoceppi> jcastro: nice!
[20:17] <jcastro> pleia2: next week monday is when I'll start to push it more
[20:17] <jcastro> now that all the ODS stuff is dying down
[20:18]  * pleia2 self-imposed moratorium on events until book is done
[20:18] <jcastro> oh there's a book?
[20:20] <pleia2> not if I keep goofing off :)
[20:23] <jcastro> what about tho?
[20:23]  * jcastro takes a wild guess
[20:23] <pleia2> openstack
[20:23] <jcastro> oh, so NOT eucalyptus, that was going to be my guess
[20:24] <pleia2> har
[20:24] <jcastro> :p
[20:32] <czajkowski> ohh thishotel has vending machines
[20:32] <czajkowski> choclate tastes odd
[20:32] <czajkowski> but bonus is I now have root beer!!


[08:40] <psamim> Any one here? I have some questions about LUGs in Egypt, doing a research on that.
[08:40] <elacheche> o/
[08:41] <elacheche> Oups.. Sorry :) :D Am here, but have no idea about LUGs → Am not from Egy :)
[08:41] <psamim> elacheche: Hi
[08:41] <psamim> elacheche: Oh, thanks, :) Do you about LUGs in the Middle East?
[08:42] <psamim> elacheche: Or Egypt, are they active or not, how old they are.
[08:43] <elacheche> Nope.. As I know there is no LUGs (if you mean Linux User Groups).. But there is Ubuntu LoCos and Fedora & OpenSuse Ambassadors..
[08:43] <psamim> elacheche: Yes I mean that, seems there is a website, EGLLUG, which is not updated in two years.
[08:44] <elacheche> The #ubuntu-eg run some events.. But have no idea how much they are active..
[08:45] <elacheche> Emm.. Try to ping to website admin.. Maybe you'll find useful informations.. Or you can ask about that on the #ubuntu-eg mailing list or FB group