[02:51] <mc44> zaggynl: there are some debs on the forums, but nothing official
[02:51] <sharperguy> crazy_bus, "sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager beryl-effects-unsupported"  (I'm pretty sure snow and rain are in unsupported), then run beryl-manager to switch to beryl
[02:52] <mohkohn> I found the answer through google. For anybody else dual/triple booting the iMac you need to make a windows xp SP 2 installation disk
[02:52] <zaggynl> mc44, hrm okay
[02:52] <crazy_bus> but the compiz website has rain and snow on it?
[02:52] <mc44> kazol: are you using the nvidia binary drivers?
[02:52] <mohkohn> my install disk was sp1.
[02:52] <mohkohn> TTFN
[02:52] <fiery_cleric> stammi: if the memory tested ok... maybe its the hard disk ... check for bad sectors using fsck ....
[02:52] <sharperguy> crazy_bus, ah right well I don't know about that
[02:52] <Vastlee> Sweet, turns out I didn't have to edit that file at all. I just had to do an auto adjust on my monitor. I'm at 1650X1060 yay. Thanks Samus
[02:53] <kazol> mc44: I'm not sure. How do I check?
[02:53] <Micieri> Brb.. gonna test the slow-burned 7.04 :P
[02:53] <uae> #
[02:53] <mc44> kazol: are you on using feisty?
[02:53] <kazol> mc44: yes.
[02:53] <stammi> thx fiery_cleric i'll try
[02:53] <mc44> kazol: System -> Admin -> Restricted Driver manager
[02:54] <Vastlee> Someone help me understand why when I maximize a window I can't click the X to close it?  I have to right click on the window at the bottom and click close.
[02:54] <kazol> mc44: yes, I see it in the window and it's in use.
[02:54] <kaolti> LjL: result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19266/
[02:54] <mc44> kazol: well you can use AIGLX. To turn compiz on just go into System->Preferences->Desktop effects
[02:55] <kazol> mc44: I cannot use desktop effects since the title bars of windows will disappear.
[02:55] <mc44> kazol: you tried?
[02:55] <Vastlee> Does that make any sense?  I open a window, while it isn't maximized I can click the X and it closes.  But if I maximize it when I click the X it just sort of fades and won't close.
[02:56] <ubuntu> witam all :)
[02:56] <kazol> mc44: I tried enabling desktop effects, but the title bars dissapeared, so I could not move the windows around. Other than that, it worked.
[02:56] <mc44> kazol: oh well ask in #ubuntu-effects for help witht that
[02:56] <LjL> kaolti, uhm, stupid question, you didn't have apt-get running or synaptic or something open when you ran that command?
[02:57] <deejay> I have a little problem with changing my screen resolution to above 1024*786, it is not in the drop down list when i enter the "Screen Resolution" screen, is there somewhere I need to edit to make a resolution like 1600*1200 available?
[02:57] <kazol> mc44: is there an alternative?
[02:57] <mc44> kazol: well you could try beryl
[02:57] <Carroarmato0> deejay, same issue here -.-
[02:57] <Vastlee> DeeJay, Samus just helped me.  I had to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <Vastlee> With that same problem
[02:57] <deejay> Ah hmm
[02:57] <kazol> mc44: other people have said they had stability problems.
[02:57] <kaolti> LjL: yea i thought its something like that too, but no
[02:57] <Vastlee> I had to look up the monitor settings in my manual, then do a sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:57] <deejay> Looked there, should i just change the 1024*786 to something higher?
[02:58] <Blissex> deejay: Carroarmato0: yopu need to tell the configuration program what are the max parameters of your display device.
[02:58] <LjL> kaolti: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[02:58] <deejay> Hmm okay
[02:58] <kazol> mc44: how about compiz?
[02:58] <deejay> in xorg.conf ?
[02:58] <Vastlee> Then once I put my monitors info in and saved it and rebooted I was able to set it to 1650X1050
[02:58] <Vastlee> Yeah in the "Monitor Section"
[02:58] <mc44> kazol: ?
[02:58] <deejay> Thanks, will try it
[02:58] <Vastlee> I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu so you might check with someone more advanced, but it allowed me to do it.
[02:59] <kazol> mc44: It's some effects program that others have talked about that works in Feisty.
[02:59] <kaolti> LjL: returns nothing
[02:59] <mc44> kazol: yes I know, Desktop effects *is* compiz
[02:59] <kazol> mc44: great.... I'll try something else
[03:00] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, but is it possible to make the gnome reolution go to 1248x1024 while the monitor is just 1024x768?
[03:00] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: surely so, but that is called the ''virtual desktop'' size.
[03:00] <umbeebmu> Anyone else had problems with  wlan card after upgrade to 7.04 Feisty?
[03:00] <GrueTamer> umbeebmu: a lot of people have :)
[03:01] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: I am not sure that the GUI configuration program can handle a virtual desktop size larger than the monitor size.
[03:01] <GrueTamer> !wifi | umbeebmu
[03:01] <ubotu> umbeebmu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:01] <LjL> kaolti: that's wonderful. not. look try again the sudo sh thing just to make sure it wasn't a lock that's now gone. if it persists, try  sudo sh -c "strace -e trace=file sh -x /var/cahce/debconf/config.dat"    (beware, that will probably give a *long* output)
[03:01] <LjL> kaolti: err no wrong command
[03:01] <LjL> kaolti: i meant  sudo sh -c "strace -e trace=file sh -x  /var/lib/dpkg/info/libhesiod0.postinst"
[03:02] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, I've tried different settings in the xorg file... but none have any effect.... I even tried the   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    comand and setting everything up but it still doens't work
[03:02] <cocoyote> I !! I have a problem with my Intel chipset GMA950 with ubuntu 7.04 ... when 3D is activ I can watch videos
[03:03] <GrueTamer> cocoyote: i assume that you mean you CANT watch videos, but, well, the 3D tech isnt nearly finished yet, its just in the early beta versions
[03:03] <delire> anyone here noticed distorted sound with the Last.fm client in Ubuntu 7.04? all other players seem to work fine - from video to jukebox's to sequencers.
[03:04] <sylpheedClaws> last.fm client?
[03:04] <GrueTamer> cocoyote: so, you just might have a problem like a lot of people do
[03:04] <sylpheedClaws> delire: get Last Exit
[03:04] <cocoyote> ok thanks
[03:04] <delire> sylpheedClaws: oh.. does that improve things?
[03:04] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: the virtual desktop size is set in the 'Display' subsection of the 'Screen' section with the keyword 'Virtual'. No odea how your GIU configuration program handles that.
[03:04] <sylpheedClaws> hopefully
[03:04] <kaolti> LjL: too much output :)
[03:05] <sylpheedClaws> and besides, if you listen to the right bands, you don't give a &*^% about distorted sound
[03:05] <delire> sylpheedClaws: i like my Merzbow clean ;)
[03:05] <LjL> kaolti, it pains my heart to say this, but i suspect rebooting might help
[03:05] <delire> hehe LjL
[03:05] <kaolti> LjL: lol
[03:06] <kaolti> LjL: kk brb then :)
[03:06] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, hmm... I'll try remaking an xorg.conf file with the normal screensize and then add my prefered size like you said...
[03:06] <sylpheedClaws> that was weird...
[03:06] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, do I need to activate the framebuffer support? I'm using an Ati card...
[03:06] <sylpheedClaws> my IceWM panl just randomly decided to die
[03:07] <sylpheedClaws> *panel
[03:07] <chedabob> Hi, im having a problem with the Gnome Panel. Could somebody read my post on the forum (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2596941&postcount=543) and help me?
[03:07] <sylpheedClaws> but it recovered ;)
[03:07] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, it works in both cases on or off, but not sure if it makes any clear difference...
[03:08] <mc44> LjL: quick, run away while hes gone!
[03:08] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: difference to what?
[03:08] <LjL> mc44: :-P no i really think a reboot might remove whatever awkward stale look he's got
[03:08] <LjL> lock
[03:08] <HotAsianGirl> <--- gives up trying to install Pidgin Messenger.
[03:08] <Carroarmato0> Blissex, with framebuffer on or off
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: whats the problem?
[03:08] <delire> HotAsianGirl: hey Kevin. wait until it's come out of beta.
[03:09] <sylpheedClaws> HotAsianGirl: use /me
[03:09] <sylpheedClaws> it's out of beta
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> delire: it is out of beta
[03:09] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ROFLAO
[03:09] <delire> IndyGunFreak: oh.. excellent
[03:09] <chedabob> haha
[03:09] <sylpheedClaws> just yesterday, Pidgin 2 final came out
[03:09] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hot asian girlz... there are no girlz on the interweb!
[03:09] <delire> sylpheedClaws: nice
[03:09] <Blissex> Carroarmato0: virtual desktop is a built in aspect of X11, not driver dependent usually.
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: are you trying to compile it?
[03:10] <HotAsianGirl> I don't see the link after installing it.  sudo dpkg -i pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.deb
[03:10] <chedabob> Couldn't you just type "pidgin" into the run command box?
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: i don't know, i downloaded the .deb package here, and it worked fine..    http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=57356
[03:10] <kraut> hi
[03:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> HotAsianGirl, just use meebo... www.meebo.com
[03:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :D
[03:10] <umbeebmu> GrueTamer: I see the card with lspci, but /var/log/messages does not mention any driver being loaded, and iwconfig says: no wireless extensions
[03:10] <HotAsianGirl> I dont know how to compile, i just know how to copy and paste to download then copy and paste into the terminal screen to install.
[03:10] <UZUZZ> hello :) good friends
[03:10] <kraut> what else do i need to do when i load all modules wich sensors-detected to get sensors running?
[03:10] <kraut> it still says me, it can't detect any sensors
[03:11] <HotAsianGirl> is meebo alot better than GAIM? otherwise i'll just stick to GAIM.
[03:11] <GrueTamer> umbeebmu: hmm...
[03:11] <kraut> i don't like to reboot to let it working
[03:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> does anyone know where the easy bug reporting tool is located in feisty?
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: do you know how to download a file and double click it?  if so..   http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=57356
[03:11] <HotAsianGirl> okay i'll try that thanks indy.
[03:11] <GrueTamer> im not good with setting up wifi connections, as ive never needed to set one up myself, so...
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: i'd remove the current package you have installed... look in synaptic to be sure.
[03:12] <delire> HotAsianGirl: Peter, just wait until it's packaged for Ubuntu. that's probably your best bet.
[03:12] <niekie> Just wondering.. one can freely release art based on the Ubuntu logo, right?
[03:12] <niekie> (Just checking)
[03:12] <chedabob> I followed the instructions for making Ubuntu look and feel like a mac, and I know have the following error : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2596941&postcount=543 Does anybody have any idea how to fix it?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> delire: it is packaged.. geez
[03:12] <delire> IndyGunFreak: why then is he compiling it?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> delire: i don't know,
[03:12] <delire> odd
[03:12] <umbeebmu> GrueTamer: but do you know how a driver gets associated/loaded to a specific hw?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> its not n the repos yet, but you can download the .deb file.
[03:13] <delire> oh well, each to their own.
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> There's really not any difference in Pidgin and GAIM..
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> beta 6
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> not much anyways
[03:13] <delire> duly noted
[03:14] <void^_> chedabob: looks like you're trying to install packages that are meant for a newer ubuntu release than you're running
[03:14] <HotAsianGirl> hmm okay. i think i'll wait until ubuntu give the ok.  cause i've been trying to install it for the past 2 hours. i can live with GAIM in the meantime. thanks.
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> HotAsianGirl: biggest thing, is if you use Icq, the annoying icq bug was fixed.
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> least thats the biggest thing i nticed
[03:15] <seif|> http://seif.hopto.org/screenshots/2007-05-01_screen.png
[03:15] <ljb2of3> Hi all, I'm having some problems with dual screens in X.  When I first boot up, I get the GDM login screen, which is working with dual screens working normally, but when I log in, the screen goes black then comes back with the monitors in mirror mode.  Seems that each session type has its own xorg.conf file... Anyone got any ideas what to look for?
[03:15] <Ichiro> hello everyone!
[03:15] <HotAsianGirl> oh okay, i guess i'll just use GAIM then. tq.
[03:15] <sharperguy> I'm having the same trouble as HotAsianGirl, gdebi isn't realising there are missind deps
[03:16] <sharperguy> I'm not sure where to get them because there not in the repos
[03:16] <cox377> does the alternative version of ubuntu come with the corex?
[03:16] <cox377> or the full version?
[03:16] <Ichiro> I'm having trouble when trying to install ubuntu in my slave drive, the screen shows some kind of error with a large number.
[03:16] <sharperguy> cox377, alternative verison is the same as the desktop, its just a different way to install
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> ljb2of3: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=534179        try that thread.
[03:17] <cox377> sharperguy: ahh i get yah,
[03:17] <teenbeat2007> question HELP ive upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 get my login as soon as i fill in my pasword en username the screen restart and im back at llogin help please
[03:17] <cox377> sharperguy: there are 2 versions of gnome arnt there? core and full?
[03:17] <Cypherix> I have a problem while installing, when I boot to the CD and choose Install, it start every thing up normally until the logo and the loading bar, it goes a few times back and forth, and than just stop, some thing called BusyBox comes up... I have a 64Bit system, Intel Core Duo 2. 2G DDRAM-2. and just one DVD drive.
[03:17] <sharperguy> cox377,  dont know
[03:17] <LjL> teenbeat2007: no idea, but first troubleshooting step imho would be to make sure you have the "ubuntu-desktop" package installed. so go to a console (hit Alt+F1) and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[03:17] <cox377> sharperguy: ok
[03:18] <ljb2of3> IndyGunFreak: will look there, thanks
[03:18] <Cypherix> Any one, please?
[03:19] <Ichiro> well, take care everyone. good luck with your problems.
[03:19] <LjL> cox377, alternate comes with exactly the same stuff as desktop, except it's not a Live CD.
[03:19] <AdministratorX> Good Morning from Marietta, GA
[03:19] <LjL> cox377: if you aim for less stuff and thus wouldn't mind a lighter download, try the minimal CD
[03:19] <LjL> !minimal > cox377    (cox377, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:20] <Elischa_> hi
[03:20] <sylpheedClaws> hi
[03:20] <Cypherix> any one came across my problem before?
[03:20] <Cypherix> I have a problem while installing, when I boot to the CD and choose Install, it start every thing up normally until the logo and the loading bar, it goes a few times back and forth, and than just stop, some thing called BusyBox comes up... I have a 64Bit system, Intel Core Duo 2. 2G DDRAM-2. and just one DVD drive.
[03:21] <pushpop_> Whats the channel for beryl?
[03:21] <sylpheedClaws> pushpop: #ubuntu-effects
[03:21] <LjL> !beryl > pushpop_    (pushpop_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> Cypherix: might try the alternate install CD...
[03:22] <Cypherix> IndyGunFreak: where can I download it from? I got the FREE cd package in the mail, a bunch of 32 and 64 bit Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Edubuntu... where can I download the Alternate CD?
[03:22] <cox377> LjL: mate that is tiny
[03:22] <cox377> 8.4mb
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> Cypherix: from Ubuntu.com
[03:23] <LjL> cox377: yup, but you can use it to get Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, a LAMP server, or other stuff i don't remember installed.
[03:23] <ifireball> I just tried activating window effects in faisty (I assume that's compiz) and now I don't have window borders any idea why is that?
[03:23] <d1c0> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:23] <eichi> hello, we want to install an ubuntu on a existing raiserFS partition..there is allready an /home/ dir
[03:23] <sylpheedClaws> ifireball: join #ubuntu-effects, they can help
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> Cypherix: its a text based installer, but its not as picky as the gui installer.. its still easy though
[03:23] <LjL> cox377: if you install the minimal set of packages, you can (if you want) then go on to install only the GNOME core using APT
[03:23] <eichi> put ubuntu wants to format is again...cant cancel this
[03:23] <edistar> when will pidgin be in the repos?
[03:23] <eichi> why?
[03:24] <Lord_Maynoth_42> isn't there some new easy bug reporting tool in feisty?  anyone know where it is?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: in due time i imagine,
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: i have a link to th deb file if you want it.
[03:24] <MenZa> Why isn't my drive mounting properly when I do sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external ?
[03:24] <d1c0> my ubuntu 7.04 don't have sound!!!
[03:24] <MenZa> !sound | d1c0
[03:24] <ubotu> d1c0: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:24] <sylpheedClaws> MenZa: use the -o rw and -t vfat switches
[03:24] <LjL> eichi, i don't think it is possible to avoid formatting the root partition, when using the Desktop CD.
[03:25] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: so -o rw and -t ntfs, if it's an NTFS/HFS+ drive?
[03:25] <edistar> I'd like the link
[03:25] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:25] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: I have ntfs-3g installed
[03:25] <MenZa> If I should use that
[03:25] <sylpheedClaws> that should work
[03:25] <cox377> LjL: yeh basically all i want is lamp with a gui
[03:25] <eichi> LjL: that su**s...
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> edistar:  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Pidgin+2+DEB?content=573
[03:25] <sylpheedClaws> since it was external I thought it would be vfat
[03:25] <LjL> cox377: then get the minimal, really
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> workd fine for me
[03:25] <edistar> IndyGunFreak: thanks!
[03:25] <dinochopins> hi all
[03:25] <LjL> eichi: use the Alternate CD. and next time, put /home on a separate partition, it's a good idea anyway ;)
[03:26] <MenZa> so sylpheedClaws, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o rw -t ntfs
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: youmight want to uninstall gaim before installing it.
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> that caused an issue on my lapto
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> laptop
[03:26] <eichi> LjL: yes, but its to late now
[03:26] <edistar> are you sure its the right link?
[03:26] <dinochopins> after I updated the sources.list file, what command should I run to get the packages list ?
[03:26] <sylpheedClaws> MenZa: try it
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> i'm looking right at it.
[03:26] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: it doesn't work :)
[03:26] <edistar> ok
[03:26] <sharperguy> It seems to work ok for me with gaim still in, I just got rid of the icon
[03:26] <LjL> eichi: well i suppose you could still use a GParted live CD to rearrange the partitions
[03:26] <sharperguy> then again:
[03:26] <sharperguy> !worsforme
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worsforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <LjL> doesn't work for you
[03:26] <sharperguy> !wokrsforme
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wokrsforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <LjL> it really doesn't
[03:27] <sharperguy> !worksforme
[03:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:27] <tatters> Y is it when I copy to my usb thumbdrive the files appear but when I remove thumbdrive and view on other machine the directory appears empty
[03:27] <sylpheedClaws> :(
[03:27] <edistar> you left out 56 at the end, but I found it now, thanks
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: yeah.. it was fine on my desktop
[03:27] <edistar> I'll uninstall gaim now..
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> but on my laptop kept crashing till i removed gaim and restarted X
[03:27] <LjL> tatters: uhm, because you don't unmount it before unplugging it? :P
[03:27] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: Any ideas? I actually have an fstab entry for it, but it's dodgy and mounts only half the time
[03:27] <sylpheedClaws> tatters: are you unmounting it?
[03:27] <sharperguy> also uninstalling gaim will remove ubuntu-desktop also
[03:27] <tatters> unmount?
[03:27] <sylpheedClaws> MenZa: not a clue, what does the fstab entry say?
[03:27] <MenZa> sharperguy: lol
[03:28] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: two seconds
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> tatters: UNMOUNT THE DRIVE.
[03:28] <tatters> I use safly remove is that the same?
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:28] <MenZa> /dev/sdb1   /media/external   ntfs-3g   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: it doesn't remove the entire desktop
[03:28] <sharperguy> not that it matters but you need it for upgrading
[03:28] <doomby555> hello
[03:28] <doomby555> i have a question
[03:28] <MenZa> !hi | doomby555
[03:28] <ubotu> doomby555: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:28] <LjL> tatters: yeah unmount... you know, you can't just unplug a USB drive without giving the OS any notice. actually, that's quite likely to corrupt your drive (and even physically ruin a Flash drive)
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> doomby: why wouldn't you?
[03:28] <doomby555> so I downloaded the ATI Radeon 9250 driver for linux
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: do clean installs, its easier..lol
[03:28] <doomby555> it's a .run
[03:28] <LjL> tatters: right click on the drive's icon, and Eject/Unmount/Remove/ whatever it says (i'm not on Gnome)
[03:28] <feed> Hi, how cna i change the icon of a file?
[03:28] <sylpheedClaws> aaand?
[03:28] <bullgard4> What is a 'kernel object file'?
[03:28] <doomby555> and i tried typing both ./blah blah blah and sh ./blah blah blah
[03:28] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, I havn't had trouble upgrading this from Dapper lol
[03:29] <feed> Hi, how can i change the icon of a file?
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> chmod 755
[03:29] <doomby555> but it gives my the following
[03:29] <MenZa> !repeat | feed
[03:29] <ubotu> feed: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:29] <doomby555> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:29] <tatters> LjL: is it possible to turn of caching so I can remove without dismount
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> doomby555: use chmod 755 on it
[03:29] <doomby555> ok
[03:29] <doomby555> how? ;-)
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> it makes it executable
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: well, actually, neither have i... but when i had windows, first time i "upgraded" an OS, it was a terrible experience, from that point on, i only do clean installs
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> use teh terminal
[03:29] <doomby555> oh ok
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> how else
[03:29] <sylpheedClaws> *the terminal
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: its a habit that followed me to linux
[03:29] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, Just dont do it the dist-upgrade way :P
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: ther's another way?
[03:30] <edistar> dist-upgrades allways crashed my systems so far..
[03:30] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, "gksu update-manager -d"
[03:30] <nuxil> !kickoff
[03:30] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[03:31] <SpaceBass> dist-upgrade worked for my 2 server installs
[03:31] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, is the reccomended way
[03:31] <nonix4> Umm, what was the other automatix-like tool again?
[03:31] <MenZa> sylpheedClaws: Does anything appear to be wrong with that?
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> sharperguy: makes sense...
[03:31] <sylpheedClaws> nope
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> clean installs dont bother me though, i keep good backups
[03:31] <doomby555> i know
[03:31] <edistar> server upgrades usually work..
[03:31] <doomby555> i type in chmod 755
[03:31] <edistar> but desktops don't... backup before you try!
[03:31] <realcr> I used to be able to be in a higher resolution than 800X600 before listening to the Restricted driver manager and install some legacy nvidia thingy. How can I be in a higher resolution again?
[03:31] <doomby555> says Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[03:31] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, Yeah I have a separate home paritiotn anyways
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> anything is better than KDE...
[03:31] <nuxil> kickoff for feisty ?
[03:31] <edistar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:31] <sylpheedClaws> doomby555: well....
[03:32] <sharperguy> IndyGunFreak, also I would end this convo or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[03:32] <doomby555> and i do that
[03:32] <edistar> to reset your resolution
[03:32] <sylpheedClaws> use chmod 755 FOLLOWED BY THE FILE
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:32] <MenZa> doomby555: chmod 755 ati-installer.sh
[03:32] <sylpheedClaws> sheesh
[03:32] <doomby555> OH!
[03:32] <doomby555> sorry
[03:32] <nuxil> IndyGunFreak, why is anything better than kde ?
[03:32] <doomby555> I'm a newbie....
[03:32] <LjL> tatters, no i don't think it's really possible. and it's a very bad idea anyway - with magnetic drives, it kills speed, and with flash drives, it'd kill the drive.
[03:32] <sylpheedClaws> I can see that
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> nuxil: i think KDE is an eyesore.
[03:32] <nuxil> lol...
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> how anyone uses it, i don't know.
[03:33] <sylpheedClaws> Indy: don't look at me, I use IceWM
[03:33] <ISaBuntu> whoah
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:33] <LjL> tatters: however i think there is a GNOME applet you can add to your panel to list all mounted external drives and allowing you to easily unmount them without hunting for icons. at least there is in KDE
[03:33] <nuxil> well we all have ower own oppinion :) and luclely we can chouse what wm|de we can use :)
[03:34] <MenZa> It's alright--we all make mistakesa t first :)
[03:34] <MenZa> mistakes at*
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> nuxil: i agree with that.
[03:34] <GrueTamer> yeah, nuxil's right, at least we're not limited to just one
[03:34] <edistar> pidgin works
[03:34] <edistar> :)
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> i like Gnome and xfce...
[03:34] <icecruncher> nuxil: I agree, KDE Roxs
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: i figured it would, it worked fine for me
[03:34] <tatters> LjL: ok thnx, I know thiis is possible in windows I always turn it off to prevent corruption cus I tend to just rip it out, Guess I need to relearn
[03:34] <MenZa> IndyGunFreak: same ;)
[03:34] <GrueTamer> i like most everything, but KDE is a little bloaty for me
[03:34] <edistar> bit I don't like the icons, can I get the beta ones back? ;)
[03:34] <AlexC_> Hey,
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> i'd rather get an enema than use KDE.
[03:34] <MenZa> !hi | AlexC_
[03:34] <ubotu> AlexC_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:34] <GrueTamer> hi AlexC_
[03:34] <sylpheedClaws> I hope Pidgin has better smilies...
[03:34] <ISaBuntu> GrueTamer: I agree with u
[03:34] <MenZa> !offtopic
[03:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:34] <MenZa> (Just a small notice)
[03:35] <AlexC_> How can I mount an EXT3 partition so that my user has read/write access to it?
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> the ones in GAIM need improvement
[03:35] <edistar> no, I don't like the smileys either..
[03:35] <LjL> tatters, i might be mistaken, but i think even in Windows, caching can only be reduced to a minimum, but not completely turned off (which means that if you unplug the drive too hastily, you might still get corruption). in any case, i agree it would probably be a good idea to make write caching less aggressive with external drives, but i think that's currently not possible
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> i don't even use smilies.
[03:35] <void^_> tatters: there's a sync mount option, but it's really not worth it
[03:35] <edistar> even worse actually in my opinion
[03:35] <doomby555> still gives me the ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution even though i ran chmod and the window in the properties says its executable
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> AlexC_: use mount -o rw -t ext3 /dev/hdxx /media/hdxx
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> doomby555: then it
[03:35] <sylpheedClaws> 's an issue with the driver
[03:35] <doomby555> great......
[03:36] <LjL> doomby555: try changing the first line from "#!/bin/sh" to "#!/bin/bash" (but can't you just use the ATI drivers from the repositories instead?)
[03:36] <doomby555> just.... great......
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> edistar: cant you download smiley themes from gnome-look
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> i think you can
[03:36] <doomby555> repositories? i checked them
[03:36] <doomby555> I'll look again
[03:36] <LjL> !ati > doomby555    (doomby555, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:36] <LjL> doomby555: the proprietary ATI drivers *are* in the repositories.
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> wel, maybe not.
[03:36] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: ok, currently I have this in my /etc/fstab: "/dev/sdb1	/media/web-dev	ext3	defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1"  how would I put what you said, into the fstab? not really sure how it would go
[03:37] <edistar> I'll try to get other icons now ;)
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> xx, you should replace
[03:37] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: ah, change ro to rw?
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> that would be it
[03:37] <AlexC_> everything else is ok?
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> wait, no
[03:37] <ALL4N> hey, I just edited the partition table of my external drive using fdisk, but when I used 'w' I got a message that the kernel is still using the old partition table and that I need to reboot..  I thought Linux could handle these things without having to reboot.. heck even Windows can change partitions without reboot
[03:37] <Lilacor> hi everyone
[03:37] <AlexC_> hi
[03:37] <edistar> do you think gaim smileys will still work in pidgin?
[03:37] <sylpheedClaws> just add ",rw" to the options
[03:38] <Lilacor> I'm having fits with vmware workstation 6 RC
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> as it is, it REMOUNTS read-only
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> on an error
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> that's good
[03:38] <LjL> ALL4N: well, it can't.
[03:38] <ISaBuntu> how the hell does that apt-get work
[03:38] <Lilacor> everytime I reboot, I have to reconfigure
[03:38] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: defaults,errors=remount-ro,rw correct?
[03:38] <LjL> !apt > ISaBuntu    (ISaBuntu, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:38] <Lilacor> does anyone else encounter this error?
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[03:38] <ISaBuntu> heh
[03:38] <sylpheedClaws> that should do it
[03:38] <Fox_Mind> tu-sa
[03:38] <LjL> ISaBuntu: (no need for the language) - is anything specific you aren't clear about it?
[03:38] <ALL4N> LjL: so I really have to reboot to see the partition changes?
[03:39] <ISaBuntu> nice bot
[03:39] <LjL> ALL4N: yes
[03:39] <ALL4N> LjL: even if I disconnect it from USB and reconnect?
[03:39] <LjL> ALL4N: oh, if it's an external, maybe what you just said will work. actually, it most definitely should.
[03:39] <AlexC_> sylpheedClaws: nope, after unmounting and mounting again, I cant write to it
[03:39] <kazol> what's "configuration manager" for?
[03:39] <sylpheedClaws> dern
[03:39] <erUSUL> ALL4N: i think that being usb a plug-unplug cycle should suffice
[03:39] <AlexC_> !mount > AlexC_
[03:39] <sylpheedClaws> kazol: KDE or GNOME?
[03:40] <kazol> sylpheedClaws: gnome
[03:40] <ALL4N> okay, I'll try
[03:40] <linux_> hola
[03:40] <linux_> hi
[03:41] <sylpheedClaws> !hi > linux_
[03:41] <doomby555> yes, the repositories say that its for Radeon 9500's and above, I have a 9250
[03:41] <ISaBuntu> very nice bot.
[03:41] <sylpheedClaws> !thanks
[03:41] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:42] <blippe> msg ubotu hi
[03:42] <ISaBuntu> smart bot too
[03:42] <Jammeri> should I be able to run Beryl with Radeon 9800 Pro and opensource drivers?
[03:42] <sylpheedClaws> not really, it's a sock-puppet
[03:42] <Vastlee> Can someone tell me how I can take ownership of a file/drive?
[03:42] <AlexC_> Jammeri: best thing to do is try it and see
[03:42] <ISaBuntu> sudo
[03:42] <doomby555> Are Nvidia linux drivers open source?
[03:42] <MenZa> Vastlee: sudo chown user location, afair
[03:42] <AlexC_> doomby555: not the official nVidia drivers, no
[03:42] <GrueTamer> if theyre straight from nvidia, probably not
[03:42] <doomby555> hmm....
[03:42] <shadeofgrey> okay folks
[03:42] <sylpheedClaws> a polite sock-puppet...
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> !envy | doomby555
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <doomby555> becvause my PC only has PCI slots
[03:43] <Vastlee> I don't know what location,afair means.
[03:43] <doomby555> no AGP
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> hmm
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> no envy
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> gimp neeeds to get 7.04 running on macbookpro TODAY
[03:43] <Jammeri> AlexC_, Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed
[03:43] <xzero> jljlj
[03:43] <shadeofgrey> is it as easy as installing on regular pcs yet or what
[03:43] <Vastlee> I want to do an entire 250 gig drive.  When I switched from Windows I had a 250 gig drive that I now can't delete or anything.
[03:43] <Samuli^> vastlee: with chown
[03:43] <ALL4N> LjL: hmm..  it still says /dev/sda1 when I re-connect the drive, bah perhaps I really need to do reboot
[03:43] <mistermax> hello - I'm looking for help with my ATI X1300
[03:43] <doomby555> So I wonder if I could crawl by on an Nvidia 4800 or 5800
[03:43] <MenZa> Vastlee: sudo chown <yourusername> <directory>
[03:43] <MenZa> afair = As Far as I Recall
[03:43] <doomby555> mistermax check the repositories
[03:43] <sylpheedClaws> I have a 5200FX, and it works fine
[03:44] <Vastlee> Ok, so for <directory> do I put sbb?  or /media?
[03:44] <mistermax> the fglrx driver blackscreens I'm afraid.
[03:44] <doomby555> oh
[03:44] <doomby555> did you check ATI.com?
[03:44] <Vastlee> I'm sorry, I'm probably not asking my question right.  I'm new, and apologize.
[03:44] <MenZa> Vastlee: depends which directory you want to take ownership of
[03:44] <ISaBuntu> i have to say that ubunto is pretty neat. it installed on my Dell Inspiron 6400 without any hustle and everything's working except the wireless. pretty amazing
[03:44] <sylpheedClaws> ATI.co for an NVidia? err...
[03:44] <sylpheedClaws> *.com
[03:44] <MenZa> Vastlee: Don't apologise--we were all new at one point or another :)
[03:44] <Vastlee> I want to take ownership of the entire drive.
[03:44] <ALL4N> Vastlee: you need to get your mount options right
[03:44] <mistermax> I wasn't actually in a hurry to upgrade to 7.10 but the ATI driver totalled my x n eft so I upgraded
[03:45] <AlexC_> ISaBuntu: It's ubuntu < u instead of an o
[03:45] <sylpheedClaws> !ndiswrapper | ISaBntu
[03:45] <ALL4N> Vastlee: is your drive ntfs?
[03:45] <ubotu> ISaBntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <ISaBuntu> Alex: there you see, i'm new to it ;) I've been working with FreeBSD upto now (servers mainly)
[03:45] <ISaBuntu> but for the desktop, this rocks
[03:45] <Vastlee> When I do Places - Computer it lists 3 things.  Home, Filesystem, and Disk.  The Disk is what I want to take ownership of.
[03:45] <AlexC_> ISaBuntu: sure does
[03:45] <Vastlee> Yes All4n it is.
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> ISaBuntu: NDisWrapper an get your wireless working
[03:46] <Vastlee> It was my disk from when I switched over from windows.
[03:46] <jsizzle> I just compiled a custom kernel, and my madwifi drivers are complaining I'm using wireless extensions v17 instead of v22 that it wants, how can I update my wireless extensions?
[03:46] <Jowi> hi all. does anyone know if mplayer package is compiled with fontconfig enabled?
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> it's a Linux wireless tools that turns Windows drivers into Linux drivers
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> syl: i'll try that after some other hints first
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> :)
[03:46] <ALL4N> Vastlee: not sure if you are using Feisty and whether feisty has ntfs write support at this point
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> ah windows drivers.. neeh :)
[03:46] <sylpheedClaws> it takes a .inf file
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> hmm
[03:46] <AlexC_> how can I mount a separate ext3 partition that my user has write/read access to?
[03:46] <ISaBuntu> ok noted
[03:47] <Vastlee> I am using Feisty.
[03:47] <jsizzle> AlexC_: in fstab specify the user option for the partition
[03:47] <Vastlee> When I try to delete a file I can't because I don't have ownership of the file.
[03:47] <ALL4N> Vastlee: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite-support-made-easy-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[03:47] <AlexC_> jsizzle: could you explain more? I've never played around with the fstab file much
[03:47] <shadeofgrey> can someone please takje a minute and tell me how hard feisty is to install on macbookpro's?
[03:47] <ISaBuntu> vastlee: chmod / chown?
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> shadeofgrey: not too hard
[03:48] <Vastlee> I will try, thanks
[03:48] <deejay> Is there anyone who can recommend any MP3 players? I'm used to use Windows with Winamp :)
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> there was something in MacAddict about it
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> before they became Mac|Life
[03:48] <ISaBuntu> deejay: xmms
[03:48] <jsizzle> ubotu fstab | alexc_
[03:48] <ubotu> alexc_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:48] <l33tn00b> deejay: Audacious
[03:48] <shadeofgrey> sylpheedClaws, do i still have to create the partitions and install grub by hand?
[03:48] <mr_dd> deejay, try musikCube - http://musikCube.com
[03:48] <AlexC_> deejay: Audacious
[03:48] <deejay> Hmm okay :)
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> yes, an Ubuntu tutorial in a Mac magazine
[03:48] <sylpheedClaws> shadeofgry: it's done automatically
[03:48] <unimatrix9> beep-mediaplayer supports winamp classic skins
[03:49] <cotton> can I see which hd ubuntu is installed on, the slave or master drive. From a terminal
[03:49] <jsizzle> anyone know how to update wireless extensions in feisty?
[03:49] <deejay> Gonna try Audacious first :)
[03:49] <sylpheedClaws> as for audio editing, Audacity is worth a shot
[03:49] <unimatrix9> lots of choice eh?  :P
[03:49] <lc_> in what packet i can find headers GTK ?
[03:49] <sylpheedClaws> not to be confused with Audacious, which is playback only
[03:49] <VJun> anyone know how to make other partition to be writeable ?
[03:50] <jsizzle> lc_: gtk?????-dev
[03:50] <jsizzle> lc_: apt-cache search gtk | grep dev
[03:50] <AlexC_> jsizzle: /dev/sdb1	/media/web-dev	ext3	defaults,errors=remount-ro,user 0 1 still does not work
[03:50] <deejay> Hmm does Audacious not suppport network directories? :|
[03:50] <Vastlee> "/media/dis...EVERB.ISO" cannot be deleted because it is on a read-only disk.
[03:51] <unimatrix9> Audacious , is that the xmms fork?
[03:51] <Vastlee> I tried sudo chown vastlee /media/disk/* but it just gave me a bunch of read only errors.
[03:51] <unimatrix9> looks like it...
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> yes it is
[03:51] <LjL> !compile > lc_    (lc_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:51] <AlexC_> deejay: you could try Rthymbox? I used to be a small-winamp type player person, but I've fallen in love with Rtyhmbox now :P
[03:51] <unimatrix9> i see
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> unimatrix9: it's the xmms/beep/X11amp work
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> *fork
[03:51] <FocusRite> Hi
[03:51] <sylpheedClaws> gaah
[03:51] <FocusRite> Does anyone use LVM ?
[03:52] <deejay> AlexC_ yeah well, hmm all i need is it to support having a playlist and able to play mp3 coded music
[03:52] <ALL4N> Vastlee: did you try using the ntfs-3g thing?
[03:52] <unimatrix9> is it better , then beep-mediaplayer, or just different?
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> better
[03:52] <unimatrix9> hmmm...
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> I still use xmms...
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> xmms and Exaile
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> Exaile is 1337
[03:52] <jsizzle> ubotu !Partitions | alexc_
[03:52] <ubotu> alexc_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:52] <timmi> i want .m3u datatypes to open with xmms not with totem player, does somebody know how to do this?
[03:52] <sylpheedClaws> !info exaile
[03:53] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[03:53] <jsizzle> ubotu !DiskMounter | alexc_
[03:53] <ubotu> alexc_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:53] <LjL> !default > timmi    (timmi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:53] <AlexC_> jsizzle: I've been through them all, it keeps taking me around in circles
[03:53] <unimatrix9> !mp3
[03:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:53] <Laney> np: Arcade Fire - Wake Up
[03:53] <shinygerbil> amarok is the win. but then, I'm a KDE user
[03:53] <Vastlee> Well... I went into [Applications - System Tools - NTFS-Configuration Tool]  but enable write support for internal devices is grey'ed out and enable write support for external devices is already checked.
[03:53] <unimatrix9> amarok is nice yes thats true
[03:53] <Vastlee> There wasn't anything else I could do.
[03:53] <sylpheedClaws> listening to NIN myself... The Good Soldier
[03:54] <tatters> anyone tried ext3cow on feisty?
[03:55] <Vastlee> When I go to the properties of the disk and look at the "permissions" tab it tells me that the owner is root and that I am not the owner and so I can't change the permissions.
[03:55] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[03:55] <tatters> Vastlee: is this drive NTFS?
[03:55] <MenZa> !hi
[03:55] <deejay> AlexC_, would it be difficult to make Rytmbox be able to play mp3? It tells me it doesnt support it :)
[03:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:55] <Vastlee> Yes Tatters it is.
[03:56] <rmd_> is there a kde prog for converting video formats?
[03:56] <AlexC_> deejay: just double click on an MP3 player, or open a mp3 file in anything other than rthymbox - and it will download the codecs
[03:56] <sylpheedClaws> deejay: install gstreamer-plugins-ugly
[03:56] <dinochopins> how to setup sources.list to my local cdrom.... as I have install ubuntu server from cd but when I update/install packages... they all go to archive.ubunt.com, though the packages already in the cdrom
[03:56] <ffm> I need to easily share my new Canon iP6700D printer on a network. It is currently connected to my Fiesty box and I have no idea how to make it so that my WinXP computers can use it.
[03:56] <AlexC_> you can then open Rtyhmbox back up, and it will play then, deejay
[03:56] <sylpheedClaws> or maybe it's just bad
[03:56] <tatters> Ok here is what I did took 5 mins and can read and write to NTFS http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-read-and-writable.html
[03:56] <shinygerbil> deejay: it's simple, you probably want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <unimatrix9> if you have feisty fawn...
[03:56] <dinochopins> !sources.list
[03:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:56] <deejay> AlexC_, ,well rythmbox wont play tthem becaose of some mp3 encode thing, but i'll figure out out :)
[03:56] <sylpheedClaws> !mp3
[03:56] <Laney> np: Arcade Fire - Wake Up
[03:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:56] <Vastlee> Ok Tatters, I'll read that and try.  Thanks
[03:57] <AlexC_> jsizzle: all of those guides explain how to mount windows paritions, I need to mount an EXT3 partition which my user can read/write
[03:57] <sylpheedClaws> np: Tool- "Track #1" (inside joke)
[03:57] <tatters> Vastlee: its V easy to follow works a treat ,ggood luck
[03:57] <Gary_> hi guys, i came in here for help, when i d/l ubuntu and burnt it and tried to run it it didnt work because i didnt know that i needed to make a bootable disk
[03:57] <Gary_> which i am doing now
[03:57] <sylpheedClaws> just burn the ISO directly
[03:57] <sylpheedClaws> !iso
[03:57] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:57] <Gary_> i tried that
[03:57] <Gary_> and it didnt work
[03:58] <tatters> !ext3cow
[03:58] <sylpheedClaws> dern bot
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext3cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <ffm> I need to easily share my new Canon iP6700D printer on a network. It is currently connected to my Fiesty box and I have no idea how to make it so that my WinXP computers can use it.
[03:58] <Gary_> the reason it didnt work was because my boot order was CD/DVD drive in first
[03:58] <Gary_> and HDD second
[03:58] <jrib> sylpheedClaws: try !burn
[03:58] <sylpheedClaws> !burn
[03:58] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:58] <Vastlee> I don't know what Dapper, Edgy, or GPG is, or which one I am running
[03:58] <Vastlee> Is there a way I can tell?
[03:59] <jrib> !version > Vastlee (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:59] <deejay> AlexC_, and i needed to install the codec :) - Well i guess i'm satisfied now, Music and Gaim, no need to use windows for now :)
[03:59] <jrib> Vastlee: GPG does not belong in that list
[03:59] <AlexC_> deejay: hehe cool =)
[03:59] <jrib> AlexC_: you just use chmod and chwon on the files in your mounted parititon, same as usual
[03:59] <sylpheedClaws> deejay: try Audacity before you make the switch for good
[03:59] <jrib> AlexC_: chown even
[03:59] <AlexC_> jrib: but will that take effect each bootup?
[04:00] <Vastlee> Trying to follow this guide, it says I do different things depending on which one of those I'm using.  I don't even know what that is.
[04:00] <AlexC_> or will I have to do chown every time I start my pc back up?
[04:00] <jrib> AlexC_: yes, ext3 stores permissions
[04:00] <deejay> sylpheedClaws, yeah well, it didnt wanna open a network location (on my server)
[04:00] <AlexC_> jrib: cool, thats ok
[04:00] <sylpheedClaws> Audacity, not Audacious
[04:00] <sylpheedClaws> Audacity is an audio editor ;)
[04:00] <AlexC_> jrib: so, sudo chown -R alex:alex /media/web-dev ?
[04:00] <Horscht> hi
[04:00] <jrib> AlexC_: sure, if you want that
[04:00] <jsizzle> AlexC_: read this webpage, specifically the third post they're talkin about vfat but just change vfat to ext3 and it should work. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=352552
[04:00] <deejay> sylpheedClaws,  and honestly, i dont care what i use - If it plays, its good :)
[04:01] <Horscht> what's a good GUI for mencoder?
[04:01] <Horscht> for gnome
[04:01] <ffm> HELP! Where is /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf on Fiesty?
[04:01] <solsTiCe> when i put some file on an crypted partition to the bin in nautilus, ithen ican't empty the bin with the icon at bootom right because it says bin empty !
[04:01] <mayorbuttes> ffm: right there.
[04:01] <mayorbuttes> ffm: That's the directory.
[04:01] <ffm> mayorbuttes, oh...
[04:02] <mayorbuttes> ffm: =)
[04:02] <Vastlee> Tatters: I'm using Fiesty, which isn't in that list of Ubuntu versions.  Which one should I use?
[04:02] <SpaceBass> solsTiCe, my guess is that which ever encryption fs you are using either moves it to the bin or deletes it instantly
[04:02] <Sergo> hello
[04:03] <sylpheedClaws> !hi
[04:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:03] <solsTiCe> SpaceBass: no. there is a Trash_something folder with the file in it
[04:03] <jsizzle> brb.. rebooting
[04:03] <ffm> mayorbuttes, No, its nto there.... /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or directory according to gedit, nautilus, and nano
[04:03] <solsTiCe>  .Trash-solstice
[04:03] <jochus> is there a way to extract an RPM on a Ubuntu machine? I need a certain file in it ...
[04:03] <sylpheedClaws> jochus: use Alien
[04:03] <sylpheedClaws> !alien
[04:03] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:04] <cow2001> is there a way to make an sshd accept connection from people who have the key AND the passphrase?
[04:04] <sylpheedClaws> !info alien
[04:04] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.65 (feisty), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[04:04] <jochus> ok, gonna install it
[04:04] <Sergo> how to set up my video card correctly ... cedega 3d acceleration pass faield
[04:04] <doomby555> how do I install .rpm packages with the terminal?
[04:04] <sylpheedClaws> Sergo: use Envy
[04:04] <Sergo> what is this?
[04:04] <AlexC_> doomby555: see few lines above about Alien
[04:04] <jochus> but, how to extract with alien? :p
[04:04] <sylpheedClaws> www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[04:04] <Sergo> Your graphics card does not appear to be setup correctly.
[04:04] <Sergo> Please check the documentation for your Linux distribution
[04:04] <Sergo> and your graphics card drivers to ensure proper installation.
[04:04] <ffm> mayorbuttes, No, its nto there.... /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or directory according to gedit, nautilus, and nano
[04:04] <AlexC_> !paste | Sergo
[04:04] <ubotu> Sergo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:05] <asherZ> hi
[04:05] <sylpheedClaws> Sergo: use Envy with the URL I mentioned
[04:05] <AlexC_> jochus: you conver the rpm to a .deb package
[04:05] <AlexC_> s/cover/convert
[04:05] <jochus> yes, and then?
[04:05] <sylpheedClaws> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html is Envy
[04:05] <jochus> how to unpack the .deb file?
[04:05] <AlexC_> jochus: simple double click on the .deb file
[04:05] <AlexC_> and it will install
[04:05] <dountby> heyho
[04:05] <AlexC_> hi
[04:05] <jochus> AlexC: I don't want to install it, I need a file in that RPM
[04:05] <Sergo> ok thanks
[04:06] <jochus> so I need to extract it ...
[04:06] <AlexC_> jochus: oh I see,
[04:06] <coldfire> french?
[04:06] <dountby> how do i find an additional ide-drive after i plugged it into the computer?
[04:06] <dountby> any ideas?
[04:06] <ffm> mayorbuttes, No, its nto there.... /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or directory according to gedit, nautilus, and nano
[04:07] <jochus> AlexC_: so you have an idea how to extract it? With dpkg or alien?
[04:07] <unimatrix9> dountby : open terminal
[04:07] <Sergo> sylpheedClaws the envy pack request me to insert Ubuntu 7.04 CD
[04:07] <Sergo> to do this?
[04:07] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[04:07] <dountby> unimatrix9: ok ...
[04:07] <Sergo> ok
[04:07] <shedman> does anyone know anything about configuring dual monitor?
[04:08] <LjL> !dualhead > shedman    (shedman, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:08] <sylpheedClaws> use xinerama
[04:08] <sylpheedClaws> ?
[04:08] <unimatrix9> dountby : type fdisk to see disk info ( be carefull )
[04:08] <dountby> unimatrix9: problem is: i dont know / cant find the device-name
[04:08] <Vastlee> I am trying to take ownership of an entire disk.  Currently it is set to read ownly and the owner shows root.  How do I do this please?  When I try to do a sudo chown on the disk it tells me I can't because it is a read only file system.
[04:08] <Horscht> Hi, I am looking for a linux alternative to VirtualDub
[04:09] <sylpheedClaws> Horscht: use Kino
[04:09] <shedman> I followed a guide on ubuntuforms to configure xinerama but only one monitor will come on
[04:09] <unimatrix9> dountby :ide?
[04:09] <Horscht> will try that one, sylpheedClaws
[04:09] <ffm> Help!  /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf is not a valid file or dir, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP refrers to it. WHere is it on fiesty??????
[04:09] <joiningtheherd> if the disk is mounted read only, and was mounted by root, then you must unmount it and remount it as the user who will own it.
[04:09] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; type mount ( to see whats mounted right now )
[04:10] <dountby> unimatrix9: its an ide-drive plugged into an old raid-controller
[04:10] <LjL> !equivalents > Horscht    (Horscht, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:10] <Vastlee> Thank you Joining, could you tell me how I unmount and remount a drive?
[04:10] <dountby> unimatrix9: so it could also be sdX or something
[04:10] <RomanK> hi all
[04:10] <bulmer> Vastlee: is your accout member of the admin group?
[04:10] <Vastlee> Yes
[04:10] <RomanK> does anyone know if there's a "live-cd"-image for usb-sticks?
[04:10] <Vastlee> I'm the only account/user on this machine.
[04:11] <joiningtheherd> umount -l devicename/mountpoint
[04:11] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; what does mount tell you?
[04:11] <bulmer> Vastlee then get on as root
[04:11] <dountby> unimatrix9: mount only shows hda (my cdrom), hdb (forst ide - thats not it), sda (thats my sata-disk)
[04:11] <darkstar> does wine not have a gui?
[04:11] <joiningtheherd> where device name is a node like /dev/hda1
[04:11] <kazol> what's a good electronic CAD program for linux?
[04:11] <bulmer> Vastlee and learn to prefix your responses with a nick so it wont be missed
[04:11] <Vastlee> bulmer: Understood, thanks.
[04:12] <nyahbinghi> hey, I compiled a new kernel, how can I access restricted-manager now?
[04:12] <mc44> RomanK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[04:12] <dountby> unimatrix9: probably ubuntu didnt recognize the controller?
[04:12] <Sergo> i think i use ATI video card
[04:12] <Sergo> or Nvidia..
[04:12] <Sergo> :)
[04:12] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; it could be, but check dmesg and look at the data see if something has shown up there...
[04:13] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: bash: unmount: command not found
[04:13] <nyahbinghi> try umount
[04:13] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; dont paste it here....:)
[04:13] <Vastlee> nyahbinghi: Thanks, will try
[04:13] <bulmer> kazol thats too generic cad...um you can get a spice like simulator
[04:13] <Guest11549> fiery_cleric no!! pandora does not work more outside of US!!!
[04:13] <darkstar> anybody know how to use wine?
[04:13] <StoneNote> ffm Also set which TCP port that the printer system will accept connections on. In Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) and Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) add this line under the Network Options part of the file (somewhere around line 420), or in Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) add the following line to /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf: <-- since you're not in dapper, I'd add it to /etc/cups/cupsd.conf like it says
[04:13] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: you're going to have to run it as root.  Try: sudo umount -l devicename
[04:13] <dountby> unimatrix9: http://pastebin.ca/472321
[04:14] <Guest11549> no!! pandora does not work more outside of US!!!
[04:14] <l33tn00b> can anyone tell me if feisty contains 3d accelerated drivers for an intel 915 express?
[04:14] <sylpheedClaws> yes it does
[04:14] <sylpheedClaws> intel support is built in to X
[04:14] <Gary_> hey all, i have a quick question
[04:14] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Woot, ok I made progress.  The device is now umounted!
[04:14] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Ok now I should remount it?
[04:14] <dountby> unimatrix9: the drive that im talking of has 2gb size and is  raiserfs formatted
[04:14] <l33tn00b> sylpheedClaws: thanks
[04:15] <nyahbinghi> does someone with just some knowledge could help me about my ati drivers?
[04:15] <sid32> I need help over writting my applications.menu
[04:15] <sid32> I lost all my applications list
[04:15] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: How do I go about remounting it with myself as the new owner?
[04:15] <unimatrix9> ok
[04:15] <Sergo> sylpheedClaws it's seems my video card is not ATI or Nvidia..
[04:15] <Gary_> i made a Bootable DVD and restarted my computer, the DR-DOS thing all loaded up and it said recognixed USB and other stuff like that and it then brought me to a normal command prompt line, what is the next step?
[04:15] <Sergo> the video is "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller"
[04:16] <Gary_> i navigated to D:/ and i dont know how to load the ISO actually
[04:16] <rrdd> http://seif.hopto.org/screenshots/2007-04-03-003744_1280x1024_scrot.png
[04:16] <shriphani> guys cant one mount external harddrives in feisty ?
[04:16] <rrdd> test!
[04:16] <drK_avNgr> Ahoy, anyone know of any simple video editing programs?
[04:16] <Sergo> sylpheedClaws ??
[04:16] <drK_avNgr> Not Kino.
[04:16] <Sergo> what to do
[04:16] <jrib> Gary_: did you burn the .iso to the disc as data or did you burn the image?
[04:16] <ffm> StoneNote, thanks
[04:17] <sid32> any help getting my applications back? Its completely empty
[04:17] <bulmer> shriphani: external? how is it powered? what interface does it have to connect to your desktop pc?
[04:17] <sid32> alt f2 alacate doesnt work
[04:17] <shriphani> bulmer, usb
[04:17] <Gary_> i burnt the the iso as data first then i realised after getting help that i needed to make it bootable which i did
[04:17] <StoneNote> ffm, yw.
[04:17] <Vastlee> Can someone tell me how I mount a drive?
[04:17] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i would guess its sdb , but it does not show up like you said
[04:17] <Gary_> so i got a fresh disc made it bootable and then burnt the iso onto that
[04:17] <darkstar> Daeron, sorry, i picked a random person and you were it. do you by chance know where i can find instructions on how to use wine?
[04:17] <jrib> Gary_: what do you mean "made it bootable"?
[04:17] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: try to mount it as your user
[04:17] <bulmer> shriphani: usb drives are normally auto detected
[04:17] <ffm> StoneNote, but, now, after adding the printer in xp, i get a test page error when I try to print.
[04:18] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: I don't know how sir.
[04:18] <Gary_> in Nero, i made a Bootable DVD
[04:18] <shriphani> bulmer, not here.......
[04:18] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; you where talking its an raid controller, is it turned on in bios?
[04:18] <bimberi_> !wine | darkstar
[04:18] <ubotu> darkstar: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:18] <shriphani> !usb
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <stammi> fsck told me: *** FILESYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *** \n 19980/7946240 files (8.5% non-contigious), 6947733/15874228 blocks
[04:18] <bulmer> shriphani: external? how is it powered? <--- you have not answered this
[04:18] <Sergo> :(
[04:18] <stammi> does that mean it found ad locks?
[04:18] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i see that your disks also have lots of partitions...
[04:18] <stammi> bad blocks
[04:19] <joiningtheherd> mount -t filesystem devicename mountpoint.  where filesystem is the filesystem on the drive, device name is the '/dev' node, and mount point is where it will join the tree
[04:19] <ffm> StoneNote, but, now, after adding the printer in xp, i get a test page error when I try to print.
[04:19] <jrib> Gary_: ok, do you have a .iso for the cd or for the dvd?
[04:19] <Hamm_laptop> I'm reading a book trying to learn more about the terminal...   It says that using  "rmdir -rf <directory name>"      will remove a directory and all contents....but when i type that into my ubuntu terminal I get an error..  Can anyone help explain this\?
[04:19] <ffm> How can I tell if I am x86 or x64?
[04:19] <StoneNote> ffm, you did your restart?
[04:19] <StoneNote> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:19] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  might I suggest a thorough reading of 'man mount' ?
[04:19] <rajkosto> rm -rf will removes the dir !
[04:19] <Gary_> i am not sure but i burn the ISO i d/l from the site onto a bootable DVD
[04:20] <ffm> StoneNote, Yes.
[04:20] <shriphani> bulmer, i am new to this stuff...... what do you mean by how is this powered
[04:20] <dountby> unimatrix9: the raid-controller was just plugged in, because i hade no ide-port free
[04:20] <rajkosto> give me ubuntu!
[04:20] <Sergo> is there any driver to support my Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller in linux?
[04:20] <StoneNote> ffm, and you added the line to hosts on your windows machine?
[04:20] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: so an example might be: mount-t NTFS /dev/sdb1 /media/disk2   <---- Does that look right?
[04:20] <dountby> unimatrix9: at first i saw the bios-screen of the controller,
[04:20] <ZombieCross> Sergo, 915resolution is what you're looking for I believe.
[04:20] <jrib> Gary_: that's not correct.  You need to "burn image".  It's probably easier if you just follow the directions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#head-8718146d5b4304ebd1c8234826440128ae10518c .  And I don't know if burning the cd iso onto a dvd will work right or not
[04:20] <bulmer> shriphani: how do you expect an external device to get its power, batteries? solar cells? etc...
[04:20] <dountby> unimatrix9: but the computer hang
[04:20] <ffm> StoneNote, no, I used the ipaddress.
[04:21] <Hamm_laptop> hamm@hamm-laptop:~/Desktop/tower of nix/closet/spells$ rmdir -rf "fire proof box"
[04:21] <Hamm_laptop> rmdir: invalid option -- r
[04:21] <Hamm_laptop> Try `rmdir --help' for more information.
[04:21] <dountby> unimatrix9: then i used another pci-port for the controller
[04:21] <sid32> help?
[04:21] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: yes, but ntfs not NTFS linux is always CaSe sensitive
[04:21] <shriphani> bulmer, none of the kind
[04:21] <ffm> StoneNote, do i need xp to authenticate? how can I make the printer useable by all?
[04:21] <Sergo> ZombieCross don't understan
[04:21] <Vastlee> Phew, thanks
[04:21] <Sergo> d
[04:21] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i dont know what you need the disk for, but you would be better off to get an ide-to-usb , external drive case, and put the disk into that..then it would be an external usb drive
[04:21] <Sergo> can you give me  an url
[04:21] <jrib> Gary_: and if the size of the file is about 700mb then you have the cd iso
[04:21] <rajkosto> UBUNTU SERVAR
[04:21] <Gary_> right i do have that
[04:21] <bulmer> shriphani: then perhaps its not powered enuff with juice from usb port, you may need an external power source
[04:21] <StoneNote> ffm, I don't know.  I don't have a windows machine looking at a printer on a linux box.
[04:21] <dountby> unimatrix9: and the machine boots again, but im not sure, if the bios of the controller is really turned on
[04:22] <ffm> StoneNote, Thanks anyway.
[04:22] <joiningtheherd> rajkosto: please don't yell
[04:22] <shriphani> bulmer, it is what unimatrix9 described
[04:22] <ZombieCross> Sergo: By support, do you mean you need a resolution better than 1024x768?
[04:22] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; doing to much changing is for sure going to mess up the system
[04:22] <Gary_> but how does the site instructions differ from what i did? will it still bring me to the DR-BOOT thing?
[04:22] <bulmer> shriphani: i did not pay attention to what he said or she said
[04:22] <Sergo> ZombieCross: nope, i need 3D acceleration
[04:22] <ZombieCross> Hmm.
[04:22] <ZombieCross> I don't know about 3D acceleration for it.
[04:22] <Sergo> i found on intel.com an driver for linux for
[04:22] <tuskernini> how do i read a HLP file?
 dountby  ; i dont know what you need the disk for, but you would be better off to get an ide-to-usb , external drive case, and put the disk into that..then it would be an external usb drive
[04:22] <Sergo> -)
[04:22] <dountby> unimatrix9: that sounds good, but i have no time. the meaning of that all is to check the drive for errors
[04:22] <jrib> Gary_: no, DOS has nothing to do with ubuntu
[04:22] <Sergo> hope it's works
[04:23] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: I forgot to mention that the mount point needs to exist before you manualy mount to it.  'mkdir /media/disk2'
[04:23] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Ahh, ok will try that now
[04:23] <sid32> I got a complete empty applicatoins list
[04:23] <sid32> need help getting them back
[04:23] <sid32> anyone?
[04:23] <dountby> unimatrix9: the disk is an pqi flashdrive for an small itx industrial computer and it seems to make trouble
[04:23] <Nitrobass24> Anyone know if Beryl can be installed on a computer that has integrated intel video? All the instructions i find are using Nvidia
[04:23] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; then the wise thing is to unplug all other ide disks and use an live cd for testing the drive...and connect the ide drive to what you have in the pc!
[04:23] <dountby> unimatrix9: so i took it home to check it on the weekend
[04:24] <LjL> jrib: err, not sure that's exact. i don't really know (just heard), but apparently the standard for booting CDs would involve emulating the booting from a floppy, using a DOS variant. and apparently other people came here in the past complaining their Ubuntu CD would dump them to a DOS prompt.
[04:24] <ZombieCross> Sergo: Try this--run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg
[04:24] <bulmer> Vastlee fyi, you can mount it to any existing directory, if current dir has data on it, it will be hidden
[04:24] <ZombieCross> And choose the i810 driver for your card.
[04:24] <dountby> unimatrix9: thats a good point  - i could try knoppix
[04:24] <ZombieCross> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-97317.html
[04:24] <Gary_> ok i will follow the instructions you gave me there jrib
[04:24] <jrib> LjL: erm ok :)
[04:24] <ZombieCross> Look down for a post by tokyovigilante I think is the nick.
[04:25] <dountby> unimatrix9: but probably you have an idea how to fix the "fisrst" problem - may i tell you?
[04:25] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; you could use knoppix, or ubuntu , as it does live cd too, i think there are linux distros for testing deeper too...
[04:25] <tuskernini> How can I read a WINDOWS .HLP file in ubuntu?
[04:25] <unimatrix9> install chm reader
[04:26] <unimatrix9> use synaptic
[04:26] <Nitrobass24> Anyone know if Beryl can be installed on a computer that has integrated intel video? All the instructions i find are using Nvidia
[04:26] <tuskernini> unimatrix9: i think chm does not support .hlp files.. i read it on the forums
[04:26] <Gary_> jrib these instructions are a lot easier to understand
[04:26] <Horscht> sylpheedClaws, importing avi files into kino seems to take quite a long time
[04:26] <joiningtheherd> Nitro: Beryl works well with most Intel GFX accelerators
[04:26] <rajkosto> i are not have ubuntuuu !
[04:26] <tuskernini> unimatrix9: only html help files .chm
[04:26] <sid32> no?
[04:26] <jrib> Gary_: great
[04:26] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; becuase the drive does not show up, there is not much we can do
[04:27] <Nitrobass24> ok i have installed beryl but i cannot seem to get the splash screen to come up
[04:27] <joiningtheherd> Nirto: it's really a matter of getting AIGLX or XGL running, and beryl will slip over top nicely
[04:27] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: I mounted it, but it said I do not have permission to view the contents under d2 (which is what I named the folder)
[04:27] <Nitrobass24> ok
[04:27] <sid32> no body else lost their applications list before?
[04:27] <Nitrobass24> thankyou
[04:27] <dountby> unimatrix9: the reason i think the drive could be broken is i have a little os installed and suddenly tere occure segmentation faults when i try to start normal programs like vi or less
[04:27] <Sergo> where can i past
[04:28] <SlimG> When a device (USB wireless G) doesn't show up in the lspci list, can I safely conclude that there's no connection between the device and the computer? (that the device might be broken/cable is defect/USB port is damaged etc. etc.)
[04:28] <vox754> latest stable ndiswrapper is 1.43, get it from source
[04:28] <dountby> unimatrix9: the i reboot and everything is ok again
[04:28] <Gary_> ok so jrib talk be thru what happens after this burn?
[04:28] <dountby> unimatrix9: do you think this could be a drive-error?
[04:28] <jrib> Gary_: just reboot with the cd in your drive
[04:28] <kazol> how do I insert buttons into the OpenOffice toolbar?
[04:28] <Gary_> is that all ? ok
[04:28] <jrib> Gary_: as long as your computer is set to boot from the cd drive first, yes
[04:29] <Gary_> it was always set as boot from cd first
[04:29] <Gary_> lol
[04:29] <dountby> unimatrix9: is it possible that raiser corrects itself at boot-time and i dont see a message of it in messages?
[04:29] <Vastlee> Please tell me I didn't just make 200 gigs worth of data useless...
[04:29] <joiningtheherd> Vastlee:  run mount with no options to check to make sure the disk is mounted where you think it is.  then if it is run 'ls -l /media' to see who owns it and the permissions
[04:29] <automat> well, i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask (i'd just consult evolution help, but it doesn't work in feisty), but does anyone know if it's possible to set separate inboxes for each evolution account.  i'm sure it's simple, but i can't find it anywhere.
[04:29] <sid32> anyone?
[04:29] <Gary_> when i get a better grasp of Ubuntu, i will probably look back and laugh at this when i figure out what i did wron
[04:29] <Gary_> lol
[04:29] <unimatrix9> tuskernini - read here about the help files ( i hope it helps you ) http://www.herdsoft.com/linux/themen/hlp_to_chm.html
[04:29] <Gary_> now i have a few queries about GNOME
[04:30] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: It says /dev/sdb1 on /media/d2 type ntfs (rw)
[04:30] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  I assure you the data are still there.  We just need to get the drive working
[04:30] <Gary_> i understand you can have sticky notes and such on your desktop
[04:30] <Sergo> where can i past large text?
[04:30] <mc44> !paste | Sergo
[04:30] <ubotu> Sergo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:30] <shriphani> bulmer, can you tell me how to list info about an external hd...... like its filesystem and so on ?
[04:30] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: good , not what are the permissions?
[04:30] <Sergo> thanks
[04:30] <aidan> Gary_: Accessories -> Tomboy Notes
[04:30] <Nag> Sergo,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:30] <Nag> yeah, already said that
[04:30] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: not-> now
[04:30] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; paste bin dmesg output
[04:30] <bulmer> shriphani: man df and man du
[04:31] <Gary_> and what about things like Windows integretion
[04:31] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: dr-x------ 1 root root 53248 2007-04-28 09:59 d2
[04:31] <Vastlee> Whatever that means
[04:31] <shriphani> bulmer, btw if this helps.......... i this external hd worked on edgy
[04:31] <aidan> Gary_: ubuntu can read and write to windows formatted partitions, what else do you want?
[04:31] <sid32> I need help on over writting my applications.menu
[04:31] <sid32> I keep getting permission denied
[04:31] <Gary_> and getting programs like Windows Live Messenger and yahoo Messenger and Paltalk for Linux?
[04:31] <Sergo> i want to try to install driver for my video card, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19280/ (here is aditional information on packet)
[04:31] <Sergo> will work this on ubuntu? :\
[04:32] <cfm76> hello everyone
[04:32] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: so we se that the drive is owned by root, and has no permissins for anyone else
[04:32] <unimatrix9> Gary_ all you want...
[04:32] <unimatrix9> :P
[04:32] <Gary_> ?
[04:32] <bimberi> SlimG: usb devices don't show up in 'lspci'.  try 'lsusb'
[04:32] <aidan> Gary_: you're going to start annoying people if you want to sit in here and ask questions that have been answered in a million different places on the internet
[04:32] <bulmer> shriphani: but sometimes maybe the usb driver didnt have enuff juice for the port? i am not 100% sure..you follow?
[04:32] <mc44> Sergo: which video card?
[04:32] <cfm76> Im fairly new to linux, I am using apt-get.  Is there a way to get a list of my installed applications?
[04:32] <Vastlee> joiningtheheard: Ok, how do I add myself on with permission to see/edit it?
[04:33] <Gary_> but thats what this channel is for isnt it?
[04:33] <Kurt|kr> hi
[04:33] <bulmer> cfm76: dpkg -l
[04:33] <Gary_> helping people
[04:33] <Sergo> mc44: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[04:33] <aidan> Gary_: almost all the programs you use on windows have ubuntu equivalents.
[04:33] <aidan> Gary_: Yes, it's for helping people
[04:33] <cfm76> bulmer, thanks a bunch
[04:33] <shriphani> bulmer, i do
[04:33] <Gary_> oh
[04:33] <aidan> Gary_: you're not asking for help
[04:33] <shriphani> bulmer, would it aid if i rebooted ?
[04:33] <dinochopins> !partition
[04:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:33] <bulmer> shriphani: so make sure it has enuff power to it
[04:33] <Gary_> thats great to hear, all i wanted to know was how to get access to my MSN Messenger and Yahoo messenger on Ubuntu
[04:34] <shriphani> bulmer, i have googled on how to supply power to it
[04:34] <bulmer> shriphani: you can try..
[04:34] <slim> there is a progam calle daMSN
[04:34] <aidan> Gary_: There's half a dozen clients that you could use, I use Gaim for both
[04:34] <bimberi> Gary_: yes it's for helping people, but it's always good for helper to see that someone has had a bit of a try at helping themselves first :)
[04:34] <mc44> Sergo: your driver should already be installed
[04:34] <slim> aMSN*
[04:34] <shriphani> okie brb
[04:34] <unimatrix9> cfm76 use synaptic to get an list of installed programs, it gives you an clearer view
[04:34] <peepsalot> Gary_, use a program called gaim, now known ad pidgin
[04:34] <vox754> !gaim | Gary_
[04:34] <ubotu> Gary_: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[04:34] <Nag> does anybody know if mplayer can deal with playlists?
[04:34] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  if nothing on the drive must be blocked from other users (ie public data) you can just try 'sudo chmod -R g+rw /media/d2' 'sudo chmod -R a+rw /media/d2'
[04:34] <slim> yes mplayer can
[04:34] <dountby> unimatrix9:  http://pastebin.ca/472348, but THIS is not the system that boots from the disk im talking of.
[04:34] <Nag> it loads them, but i don't know how to visualize the playlist or goto a different song etc.
[04:34] <unimatrix9> yes mplayer can play playlists
[04:34] <Sergo> mc44: yes, but it is installed not properly, the 3d accleretation that cedega want to pass were faield
[04:34] <Nag> yes, i know it can play them, but ...
[04:35] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; reading it...
[04:35] <Horscht> it's Pidgin, not gaim
[04:35] <dountby> unimatrix9: as i said - i took the drive from work to check it
[04:35] <Sergo> ?
[04:35] <vox754> !pidgin
[04:35] <linuxor> Hi, my ubuntu7.04 doesn't reconize my nokia n70, i've also used kmobiletools, how do I solve it ?? please>
[04:35] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
[04:35] <slim> does any1 know a good channel for novice pogrammers?
[04:35] <Sergo> and i can run the games
[04:35] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: those are two separate commands. The idea is to just get you read permissions at least
[04:35] <Sergo> can't
[04:35] <wepeel> hi all. ok, I just installed 7.04 on a friend's computer and he's been e-mailing me about a network connection problem. Basically, the network failed to connect after a reboot. Unchecking and then checking the radio button for a wired connection under the network icon failed to work, but "dhclient eth0" did work. He can now type that in when he has problems...but what's the fix to stop this from happenning in the first place?
[04:35] <Sergo> all the time didn't know what the problem
[04:35] <ZombieCross> Blargh the lack of a rolling release bugs me.
[04:35] <vox754> slim, #ubuntu-programming has interesting discussions... sometimes
[04:36] <mrmonday> I followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419709
[04:36] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Understood, running them now.  But I think it's telling me I can't do it cause after each thing it's saying "Read-only file system"
[04:36] <slim> ok thanx alot
[04:36] <peepsalot> !raid > peepsalot
[04:36] <mrmonday> >	but I can't connect to my network
[04:37] <eternal_p> good morning all...I am wondering if anyone knows of an application like Google Desktop Sidebar for ubuntu?
[04:37] <Sergo> mc44: maybe the driver is already instaled , maybe it;s not configured yet properly?
[04:37] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Couldn't change the permissions of "d2" because it is on a read-only disk
[04:37] <Sergo> to support 3d-acceleration ?
[04:37] <Sergo> in xorg.conf?
[04:38] <weswh-work> I am trying to make sure that I am running ktorrent 2.1.4, when I click 'about ktorrent', it just says 2.1 (running Feisty). I downloaded the 2.1.4 .deb for Feistyt from the KTorrent site, and when I installed it, it said it was downgrading, and the update manager popped up and said it had a more recent version of ktorrent
[04:38] <mc44> Sergo: I have never used intel so I dont know sorry.
[04:38] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: the output of mount belies that it is read/write -- the (rw)  at the end of the appropriate mount line
[04:38] <weswh-work> yet, I can't even tell which version is in the ubuntu repo, aside from "2.1" - any ideas?
[04:38] <hashbangfoo> anyone tried out Ingo Molnar's scheduler patch on their Feisty install?
[04:39] <eternal_p> pfelicity: I can't seem to PM you...
[04:39] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: No idea what you mean.  I ran both of those commands you told me but nothing has changed.  It keeps acting like the disk is Read only
[04:39] <|ericsson|> eternal_p: to prevent spam
[04:39] <SpaceBass> I'm just playing with feisty on the desktop for the first time seriously.... I've been using server for quite a while...I'm not used to all this GUI goodness!
[04:39] <bimberi> weswh-work: 'apt-cache policy ktorrent'
[04:39] <eternal_p>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[04:40] <eternal_p>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[04:40] <sid32> how do I find appliations.menu for one user from root?
[04:40] <eternal_p> lnice
[04:40] <pfelicity> eternal_p: you have to register first. - There aren't many widget-like desktop interfaces that I have found to be much use, but you may check adesklets or gdesklets
[04:40] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: run 'mount | grep  sdb' and post the entire output. please ... it is possible that the drive is mounted twice
[04:40] <eternal_p> pfelicty: I've tried that, but I cannot find a multi-feed desktop based RSS ticker :(
[04:40] <Rprp>
[04:40] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: mount | grep sdb
[04:40] <Vastlee> Whoops, one sec
[04:41] <flyingyellowpig> hi
[04:41] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: /dev/sdb1 on /media/d2 type ntfs (rw)
[04:41] <Vastlee> That was the entire output
[04:41] <pfelicity> eternal_P: I'm not sure, I haven't seen one of those myself, sorry
[04:41] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: good you see how it says (rw) at the end?
[04:41] <Vastlee> I do
[04:41] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; took some time reading it..
[04:41] <void_> does anyone know how to install mesaGLUT (i have tried freeGlut)
[04:42] <eternal_p> pfelicity: no worries, thanks
[04:42] <findeton> hi
[04:42] <joiningtheherd> is there an entry for this disk in /etc/fstab?
[04:42] <flyingyellowpig>  #ubuntu
[04:42] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: But I don't know what it means or how to change it so that I can see the contents and what not.
[04:42] <eternal_p> pfelicity: I find one called gnusticker, but after I compile it, I get a very odd error
[04:42] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; fdisk /dev/sdb1  , what does it give?
[04:42] <RYUTAZA> Hi all
[04:42] <flyingyellowpig> I would like to know which is better Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:43] <flyingyellowpig> I am a noob on Linux
[04:43] <bimberi> !better
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <bimberi> hm
[04:43] <Micieri> Ok this is really starting to piss me off.. ---
[04:43] <Micieri> -_-
[04:43] <weswh-work> flyingyellowpig: what about Xubuntu? :P
[04:44] <bimberi> ah ha
[04:44] <bimberi> !best
[04:44] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:44] <findeton> i i just upgraded to feisty, and the problem is that i have an ati radeon 9250 and my fglrx drivers don't appear to work (i can't start Xorg, the error is "No devices found"), but i've been able to start xorg when i substitute Driver "fglrx" with Driver "ati". What can i do to make fglrx work? I've been reading tutorials on the forums and so on but no one has worked
[04:44] <GrueTamer> flyingyellowpig: well, lets see
[04:44] <flyingyellowpig> sorry i am just trying to install one of them on my laptop
[04:44] <gary_nz> hello all
[04:44] <gary_nz> this is garyagain
[04:44] <pfelicity> eternal_p: seems like your not the only one (looking at ubuntu forums)
[04:44] <gary_nz> i have installed ubuntu
[04:44] <gary_nz> and its flippin fantastic
[04:44] <GrueTamer> cool :)
[04:44] <Micieri> I've using 5 CD's, and 2 DVD's now.. Ubuntu is -not- installing
[04:45] <nonlinear> can anyone help me with boot probs?
[04:45] <gary_nz> i went to the install thing and i didnt know what its exactly for
[04:45] <dountby> unimatrix9: Unable to open /dev/sdb1
[04:45] <gary_nz> but now its stuck
[04:45] <vox754> flyingyellowpig, go for Ubuntu
[04:45] <Micieri> I have boot problems nonlinear
[04:45] <GrueTamer> flyingyellowpig: if you want speed, xubuntu is nice, if you want a windows like interface only, kubuntu is nice, but ubuntu is in the middle and has gnome, which is MY favorite desktop environment
[04:45] <sid32> can anyone send my their applications menu file?
[04:45] <gary_nz> and it wont quit the application
[04:45] <GrueTamer> i recommend ubuntu to start
[04:45] <flyingyellowpig> I have a HP Omnibook XE4100
[04:45] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: What does it mean?  The rw means readable & writable right?
[04:45] <sid32> I crashed and lost it all
[04:45] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[04:45] <GrueTamer> flyingyellowpig: if your specs are good you can prolly go for any of them
[04:45] <Micieri> re-writable
[04:45] <dountby> unimatrix9: i tried already all sda-h and hda-h drives
[04:45] <dinochopins> how can I set my packages sources back to my cd again ?
[04:45] <wepeel> how do I set a command to run at startup? Especially if it requires root access and I do't want to enter in a password?
[04:45] <GrueTamer> but if theyre not, then rule out kubuntu and use either ubuntu or xubuntu
[04:46] <xxtreme> can someone help me setup fetchmail?with a gmail account?
[04:46] <mrmonday> no one know what I can do?
[04:46] <eternal_p> wepeel: system, prefrenses, sessions
[04:46] <dinochopins> as... everytime I install the base package.. it goes to Internet ?
[04:46] <Hamm_laptop> if I edit a file with   "less"   in terminal....how do i exit that program?
[04:46] <gary_nz> can anyone tell me why the install thing is frozen please
[04:46] <gary_nz> it wont quit
[04:46] <gary_nz> when i select quit
[04:46] <wepeel> eternal_p: so in the startup programs, can I run terminal commands?
[04:46] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  correct, read only is  (ro)  if this disk has an entry in fstab that entry may be worded such that the effective permission is read only
[04:46] <gary_nz> it just stays there
[04:46] <gary_nz> doing nothing
[04:46] <eternal_p> gary_nz: the ubuntu installation?
[04:46] <bulmer> wepeel look into using /etc/init.d/Kxx
[04:46] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; i dont think i can further help, try to ask again, maybe there is some other who will know...( i am lost here , in this problem )
[04:46] <findeton> i i just upgraded to feisty, and the problem is that i have an ati radeon 9250 and my fglrx drivers don't appear to work (i can't start Xorg, the error is "No devices found"), but i've been able to start xorg when i substitute Driver "fglrx" with Driver "ati". What can i do to make fglrx work? I've been reading tutorials on the forums and so on but no one has worked
[04:46] <eternal_p> wepeel: that is now I do my keyring fix for network-manager
[04:46] <gary_nz> no, ubuntu has loaded
[04:46] <findeton> !
[04:46] <bulmer> wepeel look into using /etc/init.d/Sxx    S for start, K for kill
[04:47] <gary_nz> the install thing on the desktop i mean
[04:47] <flyingyellowpig> so i just i want to know if it will run well,I am using Ubuntu in a very old desktop pc and it is work better then Microsoft
[04:47] <eternal_p> gary_nz: what kind of gfx card do you have?
[04:47] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Again you're talking over my level of technical competency.  Either way, what would be the next step to making this capable of being read and edited?
[04:47] <vox754> !forums | flyingyellowpig search the forums for your hardware, chances are that you'll find information about how it works with Ubuntu
[04:47] <ubotu> flyingyellowpig search the forums for your hardware, chances are that you'll find information about how it works with Ubuntu: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[04:47] <Micieri> !boot
[04:47] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:47] <dinochopins> i check on my sources.list, and find "deb cdrom :...."
[04:47] <gary_nz> nVidia Go 6600
[04:47] <weswh-work> bimberi: So looking at this Ktorrent install, it says version: 2.1-0ubuntu2, that would seem to me to be less than 2.1.4 - but why would the system think it's a downgrade?
[04:47] <dinochopins> then I have my cdrom mounted on /media/cdrom0
[04:47] <Micieri> !grub
[04:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:47] <SlimG> When a device (USB wireless G) doesn't show up in the lspci list, can I safely conclude that there's no connection between the device and the computer? (that the device might be broken/cable is defect/USB port is damaged etc. etc.)
[04:47] <pfelicity> eternal_p: have you tried Liferea?
[04:47] <dountby> unimatrix9: thank you anyway. i try plugging everything out and using a bootcd.
[04:48] <eternal_p> gary_nz: same card as mine, i'm not too sure then why the live CD is crapping out on oyu
[04:48] <flyingyellowpig> and i am willing to get ride of Microsoft
[04:48] <dountby> bye
[04:48] <eternal_p> pfelicity: it is a seperate program,no/
[04:48] <eternal_p> ?
[04:48] <void^> SlimG: lsusb for usb devices
[04:48] <dinochopins> but Ubuntu doesn't install from my cdrom .. what's wrong ?
[04:48] <wepeel> eternal_p: so there I'd be able to enter dhclient eth0 as a startup command?
[04:48] <Hamm_laptop> can anyone redirect me to a room where i can ask  Terminal related questions?"
[04:48] <etioso> salve
[04:48] <gary_nz> it went up to the parition thing and asked me how much i wanted to partition
[04:48] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: well, ntfs write capability has historically been touch under linux.  read capability is just a matter of mount permissions
[04:48] <unimatrix9> dountby  ; if you cant solve a problem , try to go around it ....
[04:48] <gary_nz> and before i went forward
[04:48] <gary_nz> i wanted to quit
[04:48] <etioso> ho ho bisogno di un aiuto, chi me lo pu dare?
[04:48] <wepeel> bulmer: Sorry, I don't wuite understand...make a file calle Sxx and then put my commands in it?
[04:48] <gary_nz> but now its stuck
[04:48] <eternal_p> wepeel: yup, but why would you want to? why not use network manager or wcid?
[04:49] <pfelicity> eternal_p: oh, it said desktop, hmm
[04:49] <SlimG> thanks void^ !
[04:49] <wepeel> eternal_p: network manager isn't working. See my post waaaay up there. Basically connection isn't on after reboot
[04:49] <eternal_p> gary_nz: if it did not make the partition changes, you should be able to reboot and start over, but no warranty there :)
[04:49] <eternal_p> wepeel:a lot of people get that, I would try wicd before doing manual commands
[04:49] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  I would google for 'linux mount ntfs partition' it comes up with some pretty nice tutorials, and how-to's as well as good explanations of how this idea works
[04:49] <wepeel> eternal_p: and unchecking and rechecking the radio button under the network icon doesn't work
[04:49] <eternal_p> wepeel: network-manager only started working for me recently, for some random reason
[04:49] <wepeel> eternal_p: wicd?
[04:49] <gybbo> f
[04:50] <vox754> Hamm_laptop, it is better if you just ask your question, you won't find a dedicated channel for every specific thing, look here maybe http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[04:50] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Ok.  But before I unmounted this drive I could at least see the files.  I couldn't delete them, but I could see them.  Now I can't even see them.  The data is there because when you had me run those 2 commands it was attempting to preform actions on all of the files.  Yet, I still cannot see them.
[04:50] <Muxec> Hi.
[04:50] <eternal_p> wepeel: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[04:50] <Muxec> What about Ubuntu Home Server? What do you want to see on it?
[04:50] <bulmer> wepeel  yeah thats the idea, you put it in a script and put them in /etc/init.d/Sxx   go see whats there now
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig> The Hardware:
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Processor: 1,13 oder 1,2GHz Intel Celeron
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Chipset: VIA
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Graphiccard: Via Twister (Savage)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Network: VIA 10/100MBit (VIA VT6102 Rhine-II)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Sound: VIA (VIA VT82C686)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Memory: SDRAM PC133 (SODIMM) 128-1024MB
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Harddisk: 30GB EIDE UDMA100 (HDA)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Floppy: 3,5" 1,44MB (FD0)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  optical Drive: DVD oder DVD/CDRW Combo (HDC)
[04:50] <vox754> !ops
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Ports: 1xCOM, 1xLPT, 2xUSB, 1xPS/2
[04:50] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Modem: 56k V90 (VIA VT 8501 MVP4)
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  PCMCIA: o2 micro
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Touchpad: Synaptics
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  Display: 14" 1024x786
[04:50] <eternal_p> wepeel: I would be using his program if it supported pptp, that is the only thing that keeps me with network-manager
[04:50] <flyingyellowpig>  And as wireless network i use 3Com(r) OfficeConnect(r) Wireless 11g
[04:51] <jrib> bah
[04:51] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: 'sudo ls -al /media/d2' will get you a list of your files
[04:51] <hellcattrav> hello
[04:51] <vox754> jrib, no need to ban
[04:51] <wepeel> bulmer: nothing's in there now...
[04:51] <LjL> it wasn't a ban
[04:51] <mandy> hey guys , does anyone knows why everything works fine under recovery mode (beryl , gnome , sound , ...) while my screen freezes with my radeon driver using beryl and gnome doesnt start untill i kill esd on normal mode... plz help me
[04:51] <gary_nz> ok, i am back, that frozen install thing went away, i logged off and logged back in again
[04:51] <gary_nz> auto logged in
[04:51] <jrib> vox754: it was a mute, and my client lagged :)
[04:51] <hellcattrav> hey why do i have to retype my WEP key everytime I log in or restart my computer?
[04:51] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Yeah, but I can't see them.   Much less edit or delete them.
[04:51] <wepeel> eternal_p: Ok, I'm going to quick fix this with a startup command, then when I get a chance to get to the actual box I'll try wicd. Thanks!
[04:52] <gary_nz> so can someone explain what exactly does that install thing on the desktop do?
[04:52] <eternal_p> wepeel: no problem and with sessions, you don't need a sudo as it runs those commands as root any ways
[04:52] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: could you write to ntfs under edgy?
[04:52] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I don't know what Edgy is.
[04:52] <sy135> hey leutz
[04:52] <eternal_p> gary_nz: that actually installs ubuntu, when it boots off the cd, it is only a 'live cd' or one time OS running in memory
[04:52] <wepeel> eternal_p: excellent
[04:52] <Muxec> Are you interested in Ubuntu Home Server Edition? ;)
[04:52] <unimatrix9> gary_nz - that installs ubuntu unto the hard disk ( you really dont know? )
[04:52] <sy135> how to turn off swap?
[04:52] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I am new to Linux & Ubuntu.
[04:53] <eternal_p> sy135: why would you want to turn off swap?
[04:53] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : welcome
[04:53] <gary_nz> no, i really did not know
[04:53] <gary_nz> lol
[04:53] <unimatrix9> hehe
[04:53] <mandy> hey guys , does anyone knows why everything works fine under recovery mode (beryl , gnome , sound , ...) while my screen freezes with my radeon driver using beryl and gnome doesnt start untill i kill esd on normal mode... plz help me
[04:53] <insom> good morning
[04:53] <gary_nz> so once i remove the disk it will boot into windows
[04:53] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  Thanks, it's been fairly pleasant, if I could just get my other drive to show up.
[04:53] <sy135> eternal_p i've got 1gb of ram an don't want to use swap sometimes, because if it is once used my laptop is still slow after closing some programms
[04:54] <luca> hi everyone
[04:54] <gary_nz> and until i have the disk in the drive it wont take me to this "demo" of ubuntu correct?
[04:54] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  you said this drive worked well under Edgy a few lines back -- I'm a gentoo user, and so am just getting used to ubuntu terminology myself-- but the older kernel should have had only read-only support for ntfs
[04:54] <unimatrix9> mandy : why not turn off desktop effects ?
[04:54] <demon_spork> WHen I install Ubuntu on a SATA hard disk on my comp, it just simply fails to boot
[04:54] <insom> mandy perhaps recovery mode uses a different version beryl and esd?
[04:54] <luca> does anyone know if there is a way to set up a search engine other than google as firefox default?
[04:54] <insom> unimatrix9 maybe she likes wobbly windows
[04:54] <hellcattrav> hey all, is there anyway to not entire my WEP key, and the nvidia restricted drivers each time after i turn my computer on?
[04:54] <wepeel> how can I tell what users are currently logged into my machine (via ssh?)
[04:54] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I don't even know what Edgy is.
[04:54] <eternal_p> sy135: the OS handles it, and only uses swap when it needs to, I have 1 gig as well, just let ubuntu manage the memory, it will do a better job than you (no offence) however, as far as I know, the only way to get rid of swap is to rebuild your partition table without /swap
[04:54] <jrib> wepeel: w
[04:55] <void^> sy135: toy with /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to make it swap only if absolutely necessary
[04:55] <insom> luca check firefox website
[04:55] <wepeel> ah, or top
[04:55] <unimatrix9> not if it freezes the system, right?
[04:55] <void^> sy135: use /etc/sysctl.conf to make changes permament
[04:55] <wepeel> thankks jrib
[04:55] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: I'm assuming it is an older version of Ubuntu, but I don't know.  This fiesty is the first version I've ever tried.
[04:55] <insom> unimatrix9 valid point but it works in recovery mode
[04:55] <sy135> htop says i've got 300mb of ram used
[04:55] <gary_nz> will it be ok to use only 30GB of the HD?
[04:55] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : what drive would you like to get acces to?
[04:55] <sy135> and 150mb of swap
[04:55] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  do you have an X server running?
[04:55] <mandy> insom : How can I check this ?
[04:56] <eternal_p> sy135: I only have 33mb of swap used, i wonder what yo uhave running
[04:56] <wepeel> does ubuntu have unix style messaging built in?
[04:57] <unimatrix9> gary_nz , 30 gig is fine
[04:57] <wepeel> i.e. if someone's ssh'ed into my machine, can I messae them
[04:57] <insom> mandy I'm not sure
[04:57] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: I have a drive sdb1 with about 200 gigs of data on it that is ntfs partitioned.  I'm trying to get it mounted with permission to read/write.  When I converted from windows this was a seperate drive and I could see the files but not delete/edit them.  I came in here seeking help and someone helped me unmount it and remount it, but now I can't see any of the files.
[04:57] <sy135> eternal_p i used a virtual mashine
[04:57] <Vastlee> joiningtheherdL No, I don't even know what X server is.
[04:58] <eternal_p> sy135: makes sense, I would still leave it..any differences you see will be snake oil I suspect, and when your system needs that extra ram, it is going to choke itself
[04:58] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: No, I don't even know what X server is.
[04:58] <X-User>   ?
[04:58] <chenchen> Anyone here encounter frequent crash Java issues in Ubuntu?
[04:58] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  do you have a GUI (graphical desktop)?
[04:58] <xite> how do i add windows entry to grub? ive windows on hdb5
[04:58] <unimatrix9> Vastlee ; i dont know if its wise to write to the drive with ubuntu , can some one tell us if ntfs is fully supported yet?
[04:58] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: Yeah, Ubuntu
[04:58] <sy135> okay thanks for your opinion eternal_p
[04:58] <insom> mandy check private message
[04:59] <eternal_p> sy135: np
[04:59] <vox754> !ntfs-3g
[04:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:59] <eternal_p> xite: it should have added it automatically when you install
[04:59] <sy135> cu all
[04:59] <xite> eternal_p, it didnt...or why wud i ask??
[04:59] <eternal_p> xita: vista or XP?
[04:59] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: I would be willing to convert the data over to ext3 if that is possible.  As long as I could mount the drive with SAMBA and read it from my other windows machine.
[04:59] <unimatrix9> gary_nz  : then i think you need to install the ntfs-3g driver too ( after finishing install of ubuntu ) if thats what you want
[05:00] <joiningtheherd> vastlee:  write(delete) is experimentally supported in kernels above 2.6.20 the read/execute permissions are determined by /etc/fstab and the mount directory
[05:00] <eternal_p> xita: I believe there is more youhave to do with vista & grub than XP and grub
[05:00] <jrib> wepeel: use wall or write
[05:00] <gary_nz> darn, im pretty sure i only had 50GB remaining >.< bit too late now since its resizing, i'll just have  to remove some programs from windows i guess
[05:00] <xmtgx> join #ubuntu-sa/
[05:01] <mandy> insom : Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[05:01] <wepeel> jrib: thanks
[05:01] <Vastlee> joiningtheherd: *sigh*  I don't even know what that means.  All I want to do is mount this drive and be able to use the data on it.
[05:01] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : the wiser idea would maybe be to format an part of the drive as fat32 ( unless the files are bigger then 4Gig...)
[05:01] <Muxec> iLeave
[05:02] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: An idea I might consider if I didn't already have 200 gigs of info that I really didn't want to lose.
[05:02] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : and use that part as the space for exchanging files
[05:02] <insom> mandy evil
[05:02] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : i get your point..
[05:02] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  Actually...
[05:02] <hamlet> A
[05:02] <EhPrettyEasy> How can I have dual boot with XP and Ubuntu?
[05:03] <vox754> !dual boot
[05:03] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:03] <joiningtheherd> vastlee: and read up on how these things work a bit under linux -- try the man pages, and reading docs and FAQs
[05:03] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  I might be able to get rid of some old stuff and have room on my sba1 drive to copy everything over.
[05:03] <Micieri> If anyone can be arsed enough, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597440#post2597440
[05:03] <killerbunny> How do i add items to the mouse2 menu on the desktop ?
[05:03] <mandy> insom , it says i cant get private message
[05:03] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : the reading is not the problem , from linux you can read the drive
[05:04] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : the writing though is not wise using ubuntu...to ntfs disk
[05:04] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  The whole problem from the get go has been the permissions.  I could read them fine but not delete/change them.
[05:04] <unimatrix9> right
[05:04] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:04] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  I do see your point and in the long run it might be beneficial to go ahead and change over to ext3.
[05:04] <nomin> this month's issue of maximumpc says linux is now easier than ever and the time to use it is now:  http://www.maximumpc.com/this_month
[05:05] <EhPrettyEasy> unimatrix9: If I install Ubuntu, is the dual boot option already in it?
[05:05] <nomin> they picked ubuntu in their example
[05:05] <unimatrix9> yes
[05:05] <EhPrettyEasy> I got the CD for Feisty
[05:05] <Vastlee> unimatrix9: Is there a tool/utility that would convert the data/drive over to ext3 without formating it?
[05:05] <aidan> I don't see Opera in any of the repositories? How do I install opera with apt (rather than dpkg)
[05:05] <wepeel> nomin: I agree. I've been tring linux installations for many, many years. Ubuntu is the first one I got running satisfactorily and I then made the switch from windows permanently
[05:05] <unimatrix9> first try feisty and make sure it works to you liking..
[05:05] <insom^> mandy did you register? are you able to send/receive messages now?
[05:05] <Micieri> EASIER THAN EVER?
[05:05] <Micieri> YEAH MAYBE IF YOU CAN GET ONTO IT
[05:05] <Micieri> -_________-
[05:06] <unimatrix9> if so ( first install xp ) then ubuntu and its setup for you...
[05:06] <LjL> !caps | Micieri
[05:06] <ubotu> Micieri: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:06] <vox754> Micieri, that is correct!
[05:06] <aidan> I just made the permanent switch to ubuntu too.
[05:06] <mandy> insom^ : im working on it right , i still cant receive private messages , sorry im really new to all these things
[05:06] <Micieri> I made my second HD Ubuntu dedicated..
[05:06] <aidan> It takes some getting used to, and I'm tempted  to switch back every now and again. I have to remind myself that I spend a lot of time getting things working on XP too.
[05:06] <insom^> mandy no worries
[05:07] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : no tool , not that i know off, keep it ntfs, and work out an solution ...in an other way
[05:07] <wepeel> Micieri: what kind of problems have you been having?
[05:07] <nomin> wepeel: I use both mandriva and ubuntu.  I think ubuntu handles updates much easier but sometimes things won't work on ubuntu when on mandriva I install something and it just works.  But the latest version of ubuntu may be much better now.
[05:07] <Micieri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2597440#post2597440
[05:07] <Micieri> Those kind of problems
[05:07] <insom^> mandy, join #insomnia
[05:07] <xite> how do i add windows entry to grub? ive windows on hdb5
[05:07] <void^> Micieri: next time it stalls take a look at 'dmesg'. are you confident your hd didn't simply break down, anyways?
[05:07] <cotton> Hey, When I type, it lags, how can I fix this
[05:07] <gary_nz> ok i have a small question, my HD partitioning is still at 0%
[05:07] <Micieri> I'm pretty darn confident
[05:07] <unimatrix9> gary_nz it takes a while when big ...
[05:07] <cotton> !ohmy
[05:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:07] <Dave_is_sexy> should usr/lib be 2.5gb? xubuntu minimalist install
[05:07] <Vastlee> unimatrix9:  Been trying to do so for about 3 hours now.  :(  It's actually getting worse.  When I first setup Ubuntu it set that drive up as media/disk and I could see all the files.  Since being in here I've unmounted it and remounted it, now I can't see the data at all.
[05:08] <Micieri> void^ - It stalls in the text installer thing
[05:08] <gary_nz> but its only 30GB i allocated
[05:08] <void^> Micieri: there's virtual consoles, alt+f2 etc.
[05:09] <Micieri> eh?
[05:09] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : maybe you need to take an rest before you proceed...any way here an read for you https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s03.html
[05:09] <PikkewynSA> hi people
[05:09] <nomin> the only thing I haven't been able to do well on linux is running games made to only run on windows.  Cedega doesn't work with everything and wine is the same.
[05:09] <vox754> unimatrix9, I haven't tried Feisty CD, but are you sure there is a way to do dual boot from it, I mean don't you have to resize and partition first. You may be giving the wrong impression to new users if you are not careful with what you say.
[05:09] <Vastlee> Thanks for trying to help.  The effort is appreciated, regardless of the result.
[05:09] <HOT> how do i enable directx 10?
[05:10] <encoded> <3 slim
[05:10] <eternal_p> HOT: on ubuntu..you download and install Vista :)
[05:10] <seanieb64> Hi people
[05:10] <wepeel> Micieri: that's your problem, you haven't had enough time to be frustrated with linux yet. It's like, I dunno, karma, or something
[05:10] <davidisk1> guys, why there is not mysql5.1 on ubuntu feisty?
[05:10] <seanieb64> Here to help out with support
[05:10] <Micieri> .
[05:10] <LjL> vox754: uh?! dual boot is set up automatically, and the Ubuntu installer, if it detects a Windows partition filling the drive, asks you if you want to shrink it down and make space for the Ubuntu partition.
[05:10] <unimatrix9> vox754 : what makes you say so, did i give the wrong impression , then please correct
[05:10] <wepeel> Micieri: you haven't tried installing on another HD by andy chance have you?
[05:10] <Micieri> When it works fine for 3 days, and decides to not work, then I get frustrated
[05:10] <Micieri> No I haven't
[05:10] <shriphani> bulmer, it didnt work
[05:10] <mrmonday> is anyone here using an rt61 wireless chipset on feisty? If so, can you say how you did it please!
[05:10] <Micieri> I only have 2..
[05:10] <Hamm_laptop> can anyone direct me towards a channel where i can ask   Terminal related questions?
[05:11] <HOT> ubuntu wont make me coffee, how do i enable direct coffee composition?
[05:11] <mc44> Hamm_laptop: you can ask here... :)
[05:11] <seanieb64> terminal's pretty straight forward
[05:11] <unimatrix9> HOT , use the expresso button
[05:11] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:11] <Vastlee> Question: If a disk is set as: Read-only file system, how do you change it over to RW?
[05:11] <jrib> Vastlee: depends on the filesystem
[05:11] <wepeel> Micieri: yeah, that is frustrating. System halts are particularly annoying.   Does your xp HD work?
[05:11] <LjL> Vastlee: mount /dev/whatever -o remount=rw
[05:11] <Vastlee> jrib: ntsc
[05:11] <shriphani> has anyone had issues with external hd in feisty please ?
[05:12] <vox754> LjL, unimatrix9 thanks both, I have't used the CD yet. I'm just stating that we should we extra careful when telling people to install ubuntu, I've met a guy who lost his entire Win XP and school work because he installed like that.
[05:12] <sc0tch> Has anyone been able to get wpa_supplicant working with the included madwifi drivers on Edgy? I get 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out after assoc attemps.
[05:12] <LjL> oh, my disks are all PAL :P
[05:12] <Vastlee> LjL: Thanks, will try that
[05:12] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > Vastlee (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:12] <Micieri> wepeel - Yes, that's what makes it more frustrating, that one works fine
[05:12] <LjL> vox754: i guess he left the "Wipe the entire drive" option selected instead of the "Shrink existing partitions blah blah".
[05:12] <graveson1> how can i configure grub?
[05:12] <LjL> !grub > graveson1    (graveson1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:12] <spyke01> hey guys anyone know how to get the titlebar back on objects, restart didnt fix it
[05:13] <PikkewynSA> guys what do i use to rip dvd to divx on feisty
[05:13] <davidisko> guys, why there is not mysql5.1 on ubuntu feisty?
[05:13] <shriphani> erm anyone ?
[05:13] <unimatrix9> vox754 : as i said , first use the livecd and be sure it works as you would like it too, then you couls consider ...
[05:13] <wepeel> Micieri: do you have a disk partitioning program set up on XP?
[05:13] <graveson1> !grub
[05:13] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:13] <unimatrix9> oh well...
[05:13] <davidisko> is there anyone using mysql5.1 on feisty?
[05:14] <PikkewynSA> !divx
[05:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <Micieri> No wepeel, but when I installed Ubuntu on the second HD, I formatted it
[05:14] <Micieri> Plus XP can't seem to find the other HD..
[05:14] <Micieri> It finds it when I search for new hardware
[05:14] <vox754> Vastlee, okay, time for a private help, go here #vocx
[05:14] <unimatrix9> Vastlee : there are lots of tips about ubuntu here..https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[05:14] <Micieri> but My Computer doesn't see it
[05:14] <wepeel> Micieri: right, I wanted to find out if a disk partitioner could see the other HD and reformat it. That's worked for me in the past
[05:15] <Micieri> The text-based installer formatted it too..
[05:15] <wepeel> Micieri: Something like partition magic
[05:15] <LjL> vox754, #ubuntu-classroom is a good place (when it's not taken) for in-depth help
[05:15] <tattoodjay> anyone able to give tips on using 4 wallpapers on the beryl 3d cube
[05:15] <roadfish> How can I startup firestarter without a password? I added firestarter to /etc/sudoers. But when I "sudo firestarter" then I get "Xlib: connection refused by server ... No protocol specified". What am I doing wrong?
[05:15] <Micieri> But even if I want to use the whole HD for Ubuntu?
[05:15] <unimatrix9> LjL , is ubuntu class room stil open?
[05:15] <spyke01> anyone know how to restore the titlebars to windows, i also no longer havfe a window border section on the theme gui
[05:16] <user01> is there a way to automatically do you /msg NickServ IDENTIFY command in xchat so i dont have to keep reentering it everytime?
[05:16] <Vastlee> jrib: OMG... I've been in here for 3 hours trying to do what you just told me to do that took literally 43 seconds
[05:16] <AlbertoP> user01, Server password :-)
[05:16] <LjL> unimatrix9, it's always open. sometimes there are sessions, in which case it should not be used as a help channel of course
[05:16] <wepeel> Micieri: yep. Other than that, I think the only way you're going to solve your problem is to get a different HD. That's just a guess though
[05:16] <Vastlee> jrib:  All I had to do was unmount it and run the ntfs config tool.
[05:16] <Micieri> Bah..
[05:16] <vox754> Vastlee, success! see, no problemo!
[05:16] <gary_nz> its still at 0%
[05:17] <AlbertoP> user01, no sorry, Nickserv password, in the config tab of the IRC server
[05:17] <rubydo> Hi, quick question on keyboard prefs - in Win, when I press Alt, I can flick through menu items, e.g in Firefox - what do I change to make Ubuntu work that way?
[05:17] <gary_nz> resizing of partition
[05:17] <Micieri> alt+tab?
[05:17] <Vastlee> LOL... would have been nice to accomplish that 3 hours ago, but hey nothing good in life comes easy right...
[05:17] <The_Belgain> hi there - a quick question: what's the best way to run ubuntu and windows XP simultaneously on the same machine (i.e. using virtualization)?
[05:17] <AlbertoP> user01, just put the nick password there and set the right nick
[05:17] <vox754> LjL, thanks for the advice, but I prefer to use a private channel, since we tend to go off topic sometimes
[05:18] <user01> AlbertoP: what is the server password for?
[05:18] <The_Belgain> afaik, there's KVM, VMware, Xen, ... what are the pros and cons?
[05:18] <rubydo> Micieri: I mean to select File / Edit etc (menu bar)
[05:18] <AlbertoP> user01, for servers which require a password to connect to
[05:18] <LjL> rubydo, i think pressing Alt + the hotkey for the menu you want will work. try Alt+F in Firefox
[05:18] <arron> when i run a remote desktop via ssh, how can i keep it in a window on the pc im logging in with?
[05:18] <spyke01> nm launching matacity as root fixed it
[05:18] <xTra> Hello, does Dell Latitude D820 fully support Ubuntu? Thanks.
[05:19] <vox754> Vastlee, it is actually easy, you just need to try to understand what you are doing... read all you can
[05:19] <graveson1> how can i configure grub?
[05:19] <gary_nz> uhh guys, i dont know how long a partition of the drive shud take but its been about 20 minutes and nothing has really happened, its still showing as at 0%
[05:19] <wepeel> Micieri: hey, one more option. have you tried another linux distro?
[05:19] <unimatrix9> The_Belgain, depends on your usage, vmware is very good and easy
[05:19] <vox754> xTra, cheack the forums for your hardware ubuntuforums.org
[05:19] <LjL> graveson1, *what* do you want to "configure"? i gave you hotwos.
[05:19] <variant> gary_nz: did you have to resize the partitions or move any existing ones?
[05:19] <Vastlee> The good news is that the knowledge can now tree out.  The next guy I see asking the same question I can give him the quick answer.
[05:19] <Micieri> Yeah..
[05:19] <wepeel> Micieri: try installing debian. If it has the same problem, it's very likely the disk
[05:19] <user01> AlbertoP: ok lets see if it works now . . .
[05:19] <wepeel> Micieri: and?
[05:19] <Micieri> I tried Knoppix.. but that doesn't use a HD
[05:20] <rubydo> LjL: That works, thanks! Must be possible to have Alt just select the first option straight away as in Windows though?
[05:20] <wepeel> Micieri: I mean one that acutally installs on the HD
[05:20] <LjL> rubydo: not sure
[05:20] <Micieri> No then :P
[05:20] <Arvid> how do I install ruby 1.8.4, and make it my default ruby-version
[05:20] <wepeel> Micieri: hehe, try that. See what happens
[05:20] <The_Belgain> unimatrix9: this is machine used as a headless server box (it's currently linux-only, but i'll need windows xp installed for streaming video to an xbox 360 unfortunately)
[05:20] <gary_nz> all it said was that the drive needs to be partitioned and i used Guided and set it at 30GB
[05:20] <Micieri> Ok.
[05:20] <unimatrix9> knoppix can be installed to HD too...
[05:20] <variant> Micieri: try www.slax.org. very small distro that has a click to install to disk icon
[05:20] <user01> AlbertoP: ok looks ok now
[05:20] <vox754> Micieri, with Knoppix try to find out which drivers it is using
[05:20] <AlbertoP> user01, :)
[05:20] <variant> Micieri: download the standard one.. 190MB as the installer is not in the ohter ones afaik
[05:21] <graveson1> LjL: sorry i missed it . i installed grub to the 1st disk ( windows MBR) and for the 1st boot i was able to choose between windows and linux. i booted into windows and thereafter nothing work.i then reinstalled and i did not get the option to write to the MBR, i managed to restore my windows disk but grub only has the linux disk configured(sorry for the long story)
[05:21] <The_Belgain> so it doesn't need to do anything particularly clever, but performance needs to be good on both OSes, as it'll be doing on-the-fly transcoding in XP
[05:21] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian vmware server , its free download...check it out...
[05:21] <wepeel> Once, to get Debian installed on an old machine, I "had to" install mandrake then debian over it. Weird, but it worked
[05:21] <mark_wo> snes9x doesn't run at full speed here, it did once but never again, any idea what that might be? i got amd64 and feisty
[05:22] <Vastlee> Question Please: When I move something to the trash in Ubuntu it doesn't increase the free space.  How do I actually delete something?
[05:22] <wepeel> Vastlee: right click ont he trash icon in the lower right
[05:22] <Memories> hello everyone
[05:22] <user01> does anyone else have issues where video playback doesnt work with beryl?
[05:22] <Memories> im facing major problems with my internet connection
[05:22] <roadfish> I added firestarter to sudoers. But "gksudo" says "No protocol specified ... cannot open display". Why won't gksudo start firestarter?
[05:22] <Memories> im lagging like hell
[05:22] <The_Belgain> and VMware Server will work for this?  i've currently got feisty installed on the machine can i just install VMware server from their site and use the XP image under it?
[05:23] <Memories> even though my ping time reply to the host is lower than 0.100 ms
[05:23] <|ericsson|> Have you moo'ed today?
[05:23] <hylje> roadfish: do you have X?
[05:23] <Memories> could anyone help out?!
[05:23] <vox754> Vastlee, empty the thrash, or do "rm <file>"
[05:23] <wepeel> Memories: has everything worked fine on this install before?
[05:23] <Memories> yes
[05:23] <B123> Hey, I tried to use k9dvd, but whenever i do it crashes. Is there any other program that could backup select parts of DVD's to ISO's? Please help
[05:23] <Memories> wepeel yes everything worked out perfectly
[05:23] <wepeel> Memories: does it happen in all protocols (http, ftp etc)?
[05:23] <Malachi> Is there a guide for getting my wireless keyboard working with Ubuntu? The mouse works fine.
[05:24] <LjL> graveson1, try "sudo upgrade-grub"
[05:24] <Vastlee> vox754: This is odd... I right click on something huge, a couple gigs, and do move to trash.  The free space doesn't change, even after I right click on the trash bin and click empty trash.
[05:24] <LjL> graveson1: then see if your /boot/grub/menu.lst file lists Windows
[05:24] <Memories> wepeel: i just tried msn,http so far.. and i just tried connectiing to irc (after 15 min of trials) it connected
[05:24] <wepeel> Memories: how are you connected?
[05:24] <Memories> wepeel, using ICS to an xp os
[05:25] <Memories> using kerio light (not the default window's ics)
[05:25] <vox754> Vastlee, maybe refresh nautilus... I've heard this one before.The simple solution is to reboot, and you'll see the freed space.
[05:25] <graveson1> LjL : command not found ?
[05:25] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian : find an how to install vmware server ubuntu in google, i was looking into it to see if there is an solution to stream from linux to the xbox, but did not find any yet..
[05:25] <wepeel> Memories: have you tried resetting your hardware connection o the server?
[05:25] <Vastlee> vox754:  Thanks, I'll try.
[05:25] <Memories> wepeel, i disabled and enabled it again with no luck
[05:25] <LjL> graveson1: err sorry, *update*-grub
[05:25] <wepeel> Memories: how is the xp machine doing?
[05:25] <Memories> wepeel: xp is connected perfectly to the net
[05:25] <rubydo> Hi - Totem Movie Player often shows a black screen - codecs etc are OK because video shows if I move the window around and maximize / minimize a few times - any ideas how to make it more stable?
[05:26] <B123> !DVD
[05:26] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:26] <wepeel> has XP been updated resently?
[05:26] <B123> !Universe
[05:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:26] <fiveiron> anyone else not getting audio from the flash player after upgrading to feisty?
[05:26] <wepeel> Memories: has the xp box been updated recently?
[05:26] <fiveiron> all other audio works fine... just not the flash player
[05:26] <Memories> wepeel : no
[05:26] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian the closest i get is this article http://happybeggar.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60&Itemid=2
[05:26] <B123> does anyone know of any dvd backup tools?
[05:26] <B123> for linux
[05:27] <graveson1> LjL : sorry , *update*-grub not working either
[05:27] <fiveiron> B123: K3B?
[05:27] <The_Belgain> unimatrix9: i've looked too, and i don't think there is a solution to stream video to an xbox 360 yet.  I'll be using TVersity on XP in the VM image - it looks like a pretty decent program and is free (as in beer).  they say they'll be working on a linux port at some point in the future
[05:27] <B123> I mean, like make DVD's' into Iso
[05:27] <LjL> graveson1: ... i meant the * as in bold, to correct the typo.
[05:27] <wepeel> Memories: is it possible for you to connect the ubuntu box directly to the internet connection?
[05:27] <LjL> graveson1: the command is  sudo update-grub
[05:27] <insom^> what's the difference between recovery mode and normal ubuntu?
[05:27] <Memories> wepeel: if this helps, the cpu is always on 98 % a process called XORG takes most of its power
[05:27] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian  lets hope they port it soon!
[05:27] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:27] <LjL> insom^: recovery mode is single user with no GUI
[05:27] <Memories> wepeel , i cant.. cables are wide apart theres no instalation here except crossover cable
[05:28] <wepeel> Memories: the Ubuntu cpu?
[05:28] <The_Belgain> cheers for the link, but i need something that'll transcode and stream on the fly - i'm not transcoding all my video collection
[05:28] <B123> K9 crashes for me
[05:28] <Memories> wepeel yes
[05:28] <vox754> LjL, haha, you better not use those symbols * <<.... how do you get the guillemots?
[05:28] <The_Belgain> is there a big performance impact when using VMware?
[05:28] <LjL> vox754: altgr+z and altgr+x, i'm not on a US layout though.
[05:28] <FocusRite> does anyone use LVM here?
[05:28] <The_Belgain> compared to say KVM?
[05:29] <wepeel> Memories: xorg is your x windows system. There's no reason it should be taking up that much memory. But it could very well account for your problems, I suppose.
[05:29] <budluva> The_Belgain: i dont think so, just dont expect to play games
[05:29] <vox754> LjL, thanks
[05:29] <FocusRite> the_belgian: yes, they're pretty different
[05:29] <graveson1> LjL: not it is not updating, can i edit this file manually ( menu.lst)
[05:29] <Memories> wepeel: my X windows system? why would it b on if im on linux ?
[05:29] <The_Belgain> KVM requires a CPU with virutalization technology, whereas VMware doesn't right?
[05:29] <ryks> hi
[05:29] <LjL> graveson1: yeah but honestly i don't know specifically what you should add for Windows
[05:30] <shivo> anyone from italy can help me? i've got an error with the GRUB....
[05:30] <budluva> Memories: X Window System
[05:30] <budluva> Memories: not windows
[05:30] <Memories> ah
[05:30] <Memories> well i only have firefox and AMSn usualy opened thts bout it
[05:30] <Memories> and occasionly AMarok
[05:31] <vox754> Memories, probably you have a bad driver for your card. X Window is always on in graphical environments, when you say you have no X, you usually refer to console only
[05:31] <ryks> have problem with my tvtuner in ubuntu
[05:31] <wepeel> Memories: xorg is showing up under the system monitor?
[05:31] <roadfish> hylje: yes, I am running X and trying to startup firestarter without entering the password all the time
[05:31] <Memories> wepeel yes
[05:31] <wepeel> vox754: why would this happen suddenly, tho?
[05:31] <ryks> enyone?
[05:31] <Memories> vox754 how can i b sure of tht!
[05:32] <budluva> ryks: good luck :P
[05:32] <ryks> ???
[05:32] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian  i dont know all the insides, but vmware server is easier to handle and setup, and xp runs more painless...( you need 512 ram at least )
[05:32] <zbrown> Where is the font folder if I want to add more fonts to the system?
[05:32] <ryks> hi
[05:32] <wepeel> Memories: hehe, well I'm running x windows and don't have xorg running...try killing xorg to see what happens. Then reboot
[05:32] <marcos> kurumin
[05:32] <unimatrix9> The_Belgian   any way , got to go, good luck very one and bye bye...
[05:32] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:32] <ryks> have video but audio nop
[05:33] <vox754> Memories, wepeel, I recall I used the "vesa" driver and everything was slow, using 100 CPU, then I used my proper "via" driver, and now it is all smooth
[05:33] <vox754> !fonts
[05:33] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:33] <wepeel> vox754: yah, that will happen. I think he said that he hadn't changed anything, though.
[05:33] <shriphani> bulmer, if you are there...... i can manually mount it but it wont automount
[05:34] <wepeel> Memories: you haven't tried to upgrade your video driver or anything recently have you?
[05:34] <ryks> pllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[05:34] <ryks> just a word :)
[05:34] <vox754> ryks, what about giving info, not just yelling!
[05:34] <ryks> hehe