[15:47] <DMTarmey>  hello i have tried to duel boot two linux os ubuntu and fuduntu but fuduntu have over written grub 2 with its own and i cant load ubuntu anymore


[08:21] <eDeviser> Hello!
[08:23] <eDeviser> Is there anybody used to creating javaScript Scopes?
[08:24] <eDeviser> I'm trying to add the repository to install the cevelopment tools, but the repository does not exist.
[08:24] <eDeviser> I used this command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:unity-api-team/unity-js-scopes
[11:39] <nik90> timp, Hey, would you by any chance know how to changed the header button pressed color? It defaults to "lightgrey" which looks fine for a white header. But doesn't go so well with other colors.
[11:39] <nik90> timp, I realize I could override the default action delegate at https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.4/Ubuntu.Components.Styles.PageHeaderStyle/, but was hoping for a smaller solution
[18:14] <timp> nik90: the color comes from  theme.palette.highlighted.background
[18:14] <timp> so if you override the palette you can set the color there
[18:15] <timp> nik90: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/03/17/creating-theme-your-application/ has a link at the bottom to example code, it is not that much code to do it
[18:16] <timp> I guess the tutorial is still valid
[18:16] <nik90> timp, I tried using theme and themeSetting, but ran into some issues. So for now, I just created a custom trailing and leading edge delegate for the action buttons which did the trick.
[18:17] <nik90> timp, I have also reported the bug on launchpad about exposing this as a property in the PageHeader Style API
[18:17] <timp> yeah, that's an option. But the palette should be easy to use, and then you can just change all the default colors in your app
[18:18] <nik90> timp, I did http://paste.ubuntu.com/15733811/ initially, but the color did not change.
[18:19] <nik90> no idea why, I will try testing it out on a sample app later to see what went wrong.
[18:19] <nik90> but basically the entire highlighted{} group changes did nothing
[18:24] <timp> hmm
[18:24] <timp> looks good to me
[18:24] <timp> maybe we're missing something
[18:50] <nik90> timp, strangely when I did normal { backgroundText: UbuntuColors.green }, it did change the action icon colors, however it also ended up changing the listitem text colors. So something strange going on there.
[18:50] <nik90> but this is all useless unless I try it out on a sample app.
[21:04] <snizzo_mobile> Hi! I received an email saying the new version of my app is published. But it's not. It's set for manual review
[21:05] <snizzo_mobile> Is something happening? Can someone help me?
[21:23] <snizzo_mobile> appdevs?
[21:25] <nik90> snizzo_mobile, there is some sort of issue in the ubuntu store which is being resolved. Check back on Monday evening or Tuesday.
[21:25] <nik90> snizzo_mobile, All apps are being sent for manual_review due to the issue.
[21:25] <nik90> and cannot be approved.
[21:25] <snizzo_mobile> Ahhh got it
[21:26] <snizzo_mobile> So this is going to be resolved automatically?
[21:34] <popey> yes
[21:34] <popey> monday I believe
[21:36] <snizzo_mobile> Ok thank you :)
[21:49] <yerac> join #ubuntu-hr


[12:51] <cje> hi, I wanted to let the folks here know about a resource that I have helped create (along with other members of our community), which is a video repository of interviews with FOSS leaders and general leaders in politics, business and software development about how FOSS is going to change the world.
[12:52] <cje> The repository is on the Internet Archive:  http:archive/.org/details/digitaltippingpoint
[12:53] <cje> We have 300 hours of broadcast quality footage of interviews and good b-roll from Spain, Scotland, Germany, and Brazil
[12:53] <cje> And California USA, of course.
[10:01] <katkin> morning guys
[10:03] <katkin> morning again. . .
[10:16] <jenda> morning, katkin :)
[10:17] <katkin> hi jenda
[10:17] <katkin> how are things?
[10:18] <jenda> busy :)
[10:18] <jenda> Or, should be.
[10:18] <jenda> It's hard to bring myself to start working :D
[10:22] <katkin> I'm still trying to get my head around everything that is Ubuntu and Canonical . . . it's all making sense though, which is good
[10:22] <katkin> :)
[10:55] <jenda> katkin: feel free to ask in here - this is a very community-minded channel :)
[10:56] <jenda> yo, juliux
[10:56] <juliux> hi jenda
[10:56] <juliux> jenda, can you pls give me your arriving time again
[10:56] <jenda> sure :)
[10:56] <katkin> jenda: thanks lots, everyone has been really helpful so far :D
[10:57] <katkin> morning jono!
[10:57] <jenda> juliux: we will arrive at... 3 AM or so on the 29th
[10:57] <juliux> 3 am ????
[10:57] <jenda> juliux: you don't have to worry about us until you feel like it ;)
[10:58] <juliux> 3 am is very very early in the morning right?
[10:58] <jenda> juliux: we'll wander around town till say, the afternoon, and then we can get together for the 'partp'
[10:58] <jenda> juliux: yep :D
[10:58] <juliux> jenda, why are you coming so soon
[10:58] <jenda> juliux: it was the only way to avoid having to stay the night.
[10:58] <juliux> ahhh
[10:58] <jenda> juliux: and it's the cheapest buses too, with the Student Agency
[10:58] <juliux> and when are you leaving?
[10:59] <jenda> 2 AM the next night :)
[10:59] <jono> hello katkin :)
[10:59] <juliux> jenda, puhhh
[10:59] <jono> katkin: content coming your way in the next 45 mins
[10:59] <jono> katkin: kind of fell asleep on the train yesterday :)
[10:59] <juliux> jenda, sounds good
[10:59] <jenda> juliux: I hope we don't get too drunk to catch the bus ;)
[10:59] <juliux> hehe
[11:00] <jenda> for some reason, all foreign visitors tend to get drunk in this country.
[11:00] <jenda> Must be something in the air.
[11:00] <katkin> jono: bless you, and thanks. I'm still waiting on a few other people too :)
[11:00] <jono> katkin: ahhh good, would hate to be holding you up
[11:02] <katkin> jono: no worries
[11:02] <jono> katkin: good meeting yesterday, great to meet up with you :)
[11:02] <juliux> jenda, we have the best beer;)
[11:02] <jenda> uh oh
[11:02] <jenda> flamewar coming :)
[11:02] <juliux> jenda, we will test it here;)
[11:02] <jenda> :)
[11:03] <jenda> I'll bring samples, as I promised.
[11:03] <jenda> I'll need a big backpack for the books anyway.
[11:03] <jenda> brb
[11:03] <katkin> jono: indeed, great to meet you too, it's really great to be involved with the community, I think I can learn heaps from you guys
[11:03] <jono> juliux: ok pal, whats the score with the ubucon?
[11:03] <jono> juliux: :)
[11:03] <juliux> jono, what do you mean with score?
[11:03] <jono> juliux: oops, english slang, "what is the current status"
[11:04] <jono> katkin: yeah should be fun, might be worth us scheduling reasonably regular calls - once a month or so
[11:04] <jono> I am scheduling regular calls with my target teams where I can
[11:04] <jono> mainly marketing, MOTU and a few others
[11:04] <juliux> jono, looks very good, we talked last week with a university in krefeld/germany and they can give us a lot of rooms but we have to pay for them
[11:04] <jono> juliux: right
[11:05] <jono> juliux: is it expensive?
[11:05] <juliux> jono, and we also have some rooms for free but we have some communication problems with them
[11:05] <jono> juliux: communication problems>
[11:05] <juliux> jono, we dont know it exactly, but we are sure that we will find money if we are searching for it;)
[11:06] <juliux> jono, they guys are not happy that we also went to the university and asked them
[11:06] <katkin> jono: yep I agree, maybe get a re-occurring call in the diary at the beginning of the month?
[11:06] <jono> heh
[11:06] <jono> damn
[11:06] <jono> I can't type today
[11:06] <jono> katkin: sounds great
[11:06] <juliux> jono, but they didnt response for a longer time so we searched for an other room
[11:06] <jono> katkin: which date is good for you?
[11:06] <juliux> jono, we have today our weekly ubucon-de meeting perhaps i know more after that
[11:07] <jono> juliux: excellent, keep me updated
[11:07] <juliux> jono, sure
[11:07] <jenda> jono: will canonical fund it?
[11:07] <jono> juliux: we also need to discuss an EUTeams team for LoCos - what we discussed at LinuxTag
[11:07] <jono> jenda: well...
[11:07] <jenda> (I didn't want you to be disappointed, and it seemed juliux wasn't about to ask ;))
[11:07] <katkin> jono: How about the first Monday of every month, the first meeting being Mon 2nd July?
[11:07] <jono> katkin: sounds great
[11:08] <juliux> jono, right
[11:08] <jono> katkin: 3pm?
[11:08] <katkin> jono: sounds good. I'll put it in my diary now. Do you have a google diary?
[11:08] <jenda> katkin: who are you? :)
[11:08] <juliux> jenda,PriceChild> <Belutz> QUESTION: if a loco are creating a nation wide event, is it
[11:08] <juliux>  possible that we ask canonical for sponsor (aside from conference kits)?
 ask of course! we haven't sponsored anything like that before, but it i
[11:08] <juliux> s possible
 so feel free to make a case for it
[11:08] <juliux> jenda, from the last ask mark session;)
[11:08] <jenda> juliux: :D
[11:08] <jenda> cool
[11:09] <jono> katkin: yep google diary, just added it :)
[11:09] <katkin> jenda: I'm a new Marketing Manager. I'm working with Gerry, I started on 12th June
[11:09] <jenda> katkin: ah, cool! :)
[11:09] <jenda> katkin: welcome, then :)
[11:09] <jono> juliux: jenda: we do consider funding, send me a detailed proposal
[11:09] <katkin> jenda: thanks :)
[11:09] <juliux> jono, we will if we think we need it
[11:10] <katkin> jenda: where are you based?
[11:10] <jenda> katkin: I'm "one of the marketing team guys" ;)
[11:10] <jono> juliux: good man
[11:10] <jenda> katkin: and i'm in Prague, Czech republic
[11:10] <juliux> jono, we want to try to do it with local sponsors, in the next week we will write an e-mail to all ubuntu partners in germany
[11:10] <jono> juliux: I would always recommend local sponsorship, and canonical funding is rare to be honest
[11:10] <jono> as a rule we do not sponsor loco events, not enough money
[11:11] <juliux> jono, i think canonicals sponsoring should be to send the local employess for a talk;)
[11:12] <jono> juliux: would be interesting
[11:12] <jenda> jono: speaking of which... (please don't kill me for the question) will there be a way to humbly beg for sponsorship for the next UDS? For Sevilla, the wiki just kept saying 'more info soon' until the info came as 'no more sponsorships'
[11:12] <jono> jenda: we internally pick sponsorships now
[11:12] <jenda> jono: ok
[11:12] <jono> jenda: so, keep up the good work, and you might get in :)
[11:12] <katkin> jenda: indeed, I'm "one of the marketing team guys" :D. I do love Prague, it's a very beautiful city.
[11:12] <jenda> hehe :)
[11:13] <jono> jenda: also, the last time, I never had anything to do with the sponsorships
[11:13] <juliux> jono, tsts that is not realy the open ubuntu way;)
[11:13] <jenda> katkin: :)
[11:13] <juliux> hi gerry
[11:13] <jono> juliux: it is when its canonical money :P
[11:13] <jenda> jono: I wasn't blaming you
[11:13] <juliux> jono, i know
[11:13] <jono> jenda: I know, its cool :)
[11:13] <jenda> juliux: now we're outnumbered
[11:13] <juliux> jenda, lol
[11:13] <jenda> :)
[11:13] <jono> I think katkin and I should beat both of you up - Canonical power!
[11:14] <jono> :P
[11:14] <jenda> :)
[11:14] <jono> jenda: heh
[11:14] <juliux> hm we need more community people now
[11:14] <jenda> oh well, kitchen calls, I'll brb.
[11:14] <jono> I have to run
[11:14] <jono> later chaps
[11:15] <juliux> jenda, lets write a community controlled bot;)
[11:15] <juliux> jono, if you read something about the german ubucon on the planet you can be sure that we have fixed the major problems
[11:16] <jono> juliux: right
[11:17] <jenda> juliux: BTW, we are establishing the Czech LoCo as a legal entity soon.
[11:17] <juliux> jenda, cool
[11:17] <jenda> juliux: it will make it possible to have a formal budget and all that jazz ;)
[11:17] <juliux> jenda, i know
[11:17] <jenda> Unfortunately, I'm the only donator so far :D
[11:17] <jenda> *donor?
[11:18] <juliux> jenda, during the time there will be more
[11:18] <jenda> (I would use the word sponsor, but as I learnt about a week ago, you are only legally a sponsor if you are getting advertisements in return :))
[11:19] <jenda> bah, I gotta get back to work. If all goes well, I could even afford the UDS myself ;)
[11:19] <juliux> jenda, good luck
[11:19] <jenda> :)
[11:29] <jenda> juliux: crap
[11:29] <jenda> juliux: the bus is full :(
[11:30] <jenda> I'll have to keep prodding them if any reservations were cancelled... and then just chance waiting at the bus stop and hope someone doesn't turn up  :D
[11:30] <juliux> oh no
[11:32] <jenda> Well, we'll just have to hope.
[11:33] <jenda> Worst case scenario: either I or beuno stay in Prague - if I stay, he'll have to carry my books back :D
[11:33] <jenda> In fact, that's what we'll do. I'll stay, and then try to hitchhike :)
[11:33] <jenda> shouldn't be too hard.
[11:57] <Mike_F> jenda, thanks for sending the flyers
[11:57] <jenda> Mike_F: no problem - did you say 'what was left of them' earlier?
[11:57] <Mike_F> yes
[11:58] <Mike_F> i guess someone or something didn't like them
[11:58] <jenda> damn
[11:59] <Mike_F> yeah, what i got was pretty funny though
[11:59] <jenda> What did they do to them?
[11:59] <Mike_F> i bright red Honda Owners Manual and what looks like someone trying to claim one of the email scam prizes
[12:00] <Mike_F> The Scammers must of got the Ubuntu Flyers
[12:00] <Mike_F> It looked like the envelope got chewed up in a sorting machince some where on the US side
[12:01] <jenda> juliux: you know, the 21st century is amazing - hitchhiking is now done over the internet, too :)
[12:01] <jenda> Mike_F: what?
[12:01] <jenda> Mike_F: I don't understand :D
[12:01] <jenda> Sounds funky enough.
[12:02] <Mike_F> That's what I got in one of the envelopes that the postal service sends you when they find a damaged letter
[12:02] <jenda> ah
[12:02] <Mike_F> They also say they are sorry
[12:02] <jenda> :D
[12:02] <jenda> bastards
[12:02] <jenda> and they get paid for that...
[12:04] <Mike_F> Well someone get the Flyers in a way we did spread the word about Ubuntu
[12:04] <elkbuntu> Mike_F, they also say sorry when some twit posts you a SASE that is open and empty because the adhesive strip has never even been exposed
[12:05] <jenda> Mike_F: :)
[12:06] <Mike_F> I once got a letter addressed to someone's landlord in New York City with their rent check in it.
[12:07] <Mike_F> No bad since that's about 1200 miles from here
[12:07] <Mike_F> I sent it in for them
[12:10] <Mike_F> Now, Does anyone know how I could get some flyers ?
[12:10] <elkbuntu> Mike_F, with a note to the tune of 'the postal service are a bunch of untrained monkeys. it is a miracle there is not poop smeared on this envelope'
[12:10] <jenda> Mike_F: I got the price for the 800 from my printer guy
[12:10] <jenda> I could try finding it :D
[12:11] <jenda> Mike_F: it looks like $200 for 200
[12:12] <jenda> Which is more than I expected :(
[12:12] <jenda> erm
[12:12] <jenda> $200 for 800
[12:12] <Mike_F> That's about what they would cost here
[12:13] <jenda> ok
[12:13] <jenda> you'd probably have to add about $20 for shipping
[12:14] <Mike_F> I think we need to make something with spot color so it can be printer on a color laser without using $300 worth of toner
[12:15] <Mike_F> Our Loco here in Florida is starting to get the artistic people together on that
[12:15] <jenda> cool
[12:15] <Mike_F> I am not one of those, I just get out to a lot of business networking
[12:15] <Mike_F> So I can get thing out to the people
[12:16] <jenda> Mike_F: how much would the fliers cost you there? If I know, I could try convincing the guy to go down with the price.
[12:17] <Mike_F> The big problem is something like that fyler needs to be printed 100,000+ on an offset press to get them down to a few pennies a copy
[12:17] <jenda> yep
[12:17] <Mike_F> Which is what Canonical obviously had done
[12:18] <jenda> that's why the 800 cost as much as it would.
[12:18] <jenda> AND it costs almost the same as 1600
[12:18] <Mike_F> So give that they just aren't cost effictive to print short run
[12:18] <Mike_F> Exactly
[12:18] <jenda> The problem is, not many people are willing to fund fliers for their loco.
[12:18] <juliux> Mike_F, in germany 10.000 flyer cost only 400
[12:19] <jenda> juliux: I'm sure it would cost less with this guy.
[12:19] <juliux> jenda, the cost depends on the kind of flyers, if you only make a din a4 sheet it is less money;)
[12:20] <Mike_F> The red background is the killer on the laser printer
[12:20] <jenda> juliux: I was asking for those made by canonical
[12:20] <Mike_F> Process Red in laser would burn both magenta and yellow toner
[12:20] <jenda> Mike_F: which reminds me, I stole one from the pack I sent you and sent it to the printer guy...
[12:20] <juliux> jenda, ok, we payed 460 for 10.000
[12:20] <jenda> Mike_F: not that it matters now :D
[12:20] <juliux> jenda, and thas is a good price in germany
[12:21] <jenda> juliux: that is a good price
[12:21] <jenda> juliux: what did they look like?
[12:21] <jenda> (double-sided, folded?)
[12:21] <juliux> jenda, they are the same as the canonical ubuntu ones
[12:21] <jenda> cool
[12:21] <juliux> jenda, but they are in german;)
[12:21] <jenda> that's a very good price, then.
[12:21] <jenda> of course
[12:22] <juliux> jenda, now they are only 412
[12:22] <juliux> jenda, the price falls every half year
[12:22] <jenda> really? cool :)
[12:24] <Mike_F> More Euros for less US Dollars, sounds good to me :-)
[12:26] <myriam_rs> if only this was true regardind CHF :-(
[12:26] <myriam_rs> Euro has gone really high for us now here in Switzerland :-(
[12:27] <jenda> Mike_F: actually, if there was a deflation in euroland, it would mean the euro is more expensive ;)
[12:27] <jenda> (compare with inflation - when money loses its value)
[12:28] <myriam_rs> I get less Euro for my money now, but US Dollar is the same since months
[12:29] <jenda> the US dollar has been falling compared to the CZK and the euro for some time now.
[12:29] <jenda> (and for me, an exporter, it's a bad thing ;))
[12:30] <Vorian> exporter eh?
[12:46] <jenda> :)
[12:46] <jenda> in essence, yep
[12:46] <jenda> the only thing I import is tsmithe's proofreading.
[12:59] <Mike_F> jenda, I always get confused about those things
[01:00] <Mike_F> I got to get over to Orlando, one more thing
[01:01] <Mike_F> If our Loco makes our own Ubuntu Flyers would the marketing team like copies
[01:07] <jenda> Mike_F: I think you would find other english-speaking locos interested in tem.
[01:07] <jenda> *them
[01:08] <Mike_F> Good Idea,
[01:08] <jenda> Mike_F: the US LoCos would be a good place to start :)
[01:10] <Mike_F> Thanks I got to sign off
[01:10] <Mike_F> bye
[01:14] <Vorian> US loco's?
[01:14] <Vorian> They have LoCo teams in the US?
[01:17] <juliux> hi Vorian
[01:17] <Vorian> hey juliux :)
[01:17] <juliux> Vorian, did you revice the shirts?
[01:17] <Vorian> not yet....
[01:18] <Vorian> juliux, how long do packages normally take?
[01:18] <juliux> Vorian, they said 5 days, but they also said 5 days to denmark and there it was after 1 day;)
[01:18] <Vorian> wow
[01:19] <Vorian> juliux, I'll let you know when I get them
[01:19] <Vorian> You can keep a log
[01:19] <Vorian> :)
[01:22] <juliux> thxs Vorian
[01:22] <Vorian> :)
[01:22] <Vorian> no problem
[05:35] <katkin_> so, i became a member of launchpad today, very exciting :)
[06:00] <elkbuntu> :)
[06:00] <elkbuntu> I'm glad you're enjoying your new job, katkin_
[06:01] <katkin_> elkbuntu: thanks :) it's great to be able to see what everyone looks like on launchpad
[06:02] <elkbuntu> https://launchpad.net/~melissa is me :)
[06:04] <katkin_> elkbuntu: cool, you're in oz!
[06:04] <elkbuntu> katkin_, indeed i am
[06:06] <elkbuntu> oz has ticked into 2am already too, so i should go snuggle into bed
[06:07] <katkin_> elkbuntu: no worries. Sweet dreams
[06:07] <elkbuntu> katkin_, same to you, for when it is your turn
[06:08] <katkin_> :)
[06:12] <elkbuntu> katkin_, before i go, i'm going to point you to #ubuntu-women ... it's a project to encourage women to use Ubuntu and other open source software. It'd be wonderful to have a canonical woman in there :)
[06:12] <katkin_> elkbuntu: absolutely, I'd love to get involved x
[06:40] <juliux> gerry katkin i need your help;) i get a phone call from a german company who is in contact with malcolm but he doesn t response any phonecalls, is there somebody else they can phone?
[06:42] <katkin> juliux: hi, can I ask what the company are asking about? So I can be sure to recommend the right person.
[07:05] <jenda> katkin: welcome to the LP marketing team :)
[07:05] <jenda> You are member #245
[07:05] <jenda> (estimate :D)
[07:07] <juliux> katkin, as i understand it right they have a product for the commercial archive
[07:07] <katkin> jenda: hi!
[07:08] <katkin> juliux: I'm not quite sure what you mean? Still getting to grips with things. . . .
[07:09] <juliux> katkin, somebody from the partner prorgamm is need i think
[07:09] <juliux> katkin, they are developing a groupwaresoftware and i think they have a contract with canonical that this groupware should go one day into the commercial repository
[07:09] <katkin> juliux: i see
[07:19] <gerry> hello
[07:19] <gerry> i thiink they need to go through malcolm juliux
[07:19] <juliux> gerry, nobody else?
[07:20] <gerry> what's the name of the company and we'll flag it with malcolm
[07:20] <gerry> malcolm rides alone
[07:20] <juliux> gerry, globolog
[07:20] <gerry> but he has some admin help now
[07:20] <gerry> so might get a bit easier
[07:20] <gerry> he's getting old juliux
[07:20] <gerry> slowing down
[07:20] <juliux> gerry, no to old for jokes;)
[07:21] <gerry> i hope not
[07:21] <gerry> thanks for flagging it up
[07:21] <juliux> and not too old for bashing microsoft and suse;)
[07:21] <gerry> i'll let you know what happens
[07:21] <gerry> anyone here from the philippines?
[07:22] <gerry> anyone?
[07:22] <jenda> jsgotangco
[07:24] <gerry> really?
[07:24] <jenda> yes
[07:25] <jenda> At least, as far as I know :)
[07:25] <gerry> that's fantastic
[07:25] <gerry> i have a terrific case study for him
[07:25] <gerry> or her
[07:26] <gerry> is he or she online much?
[07:26] <jenda> yep, checked
[07:26] <jenda> gerry: Jerome S Gotangco
[07:26] <jenda> Him.
[07:26] <jenda> and yep, he's online often, but not here.
[07:27] <jenda> gerry: he's on the community council, you should know him ;)
[07:28] <gerry> of course.i hope he got my fruit basket
[07:28] <jenda> :D
[07:45] <myriam_rs> hi gerry :-)
[08:07] <jenda> gerry: updated
[08:07] <jenda> gerry: is early registration still up?
[08:13] <gerry> early reg gone
[08:14] <gerry> hi myriam
[08:14] <gerry> i hear you've a new member on the women list
[09:06] <myriam_rs> well, not so new, I'm here since June last year :-)
[09:08] <myriam_rs> suppose you mean Katkin :-)


[00:31] <mhall119> Ronnie: yeah, did that earlier, thanks again for all your work on that
[00:32] <mhall119> Ronnie: can you test myupdate-openids branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/fixes-639772/+merge/44311
[00:32] <mhall119> cjohnston: you too, when you can
[00:34] <Ronnie> mhall119: executing now (how log will it take?)
[00:35] <mhall119> a while
[00:36] <mhall119> I don't plan on running it in production very often
[00:36] <mhall119> calls to launchpad are slow, and it does one for every user
[00:49] <cjohnston> ok
[00:51] <JanC> hm, when do we have to get the team reports ready again?
[01:21] <cjohnston> 154 more miles
[01:22] <Ronnie> mhall119:  command update-openid's did run without errors here. should i chaeck the database also>
[01:25] <Ronnie> ill go to sleep now. tomorrow also a long day. good night all
[01:26] <cjohnston> g'nite Ronnie
[14:31] <daker> yay http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2010/12/cloud-community-flash-adnane.html
[14:59] <mhall119> daker: nice
[14:59] <mhall119> I didn't realize you were working on the cloud portal
[15:03] <daker> Wow
[15:03] <daker> i am working on django one
[15:03] <daker> for the 11.04 cycle
[15:25] <mhall119> django one what?
[15:25] <daker> a new cloud portal with django
[15:25] <mhall119> oh, the current one isn't django?
[15:26] <daker> wordpress
[15:26] <mhall119> ah
[15:26] <mhall119> let me know what you need to be added to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-django-foundations/ to do it
[15:27] <mhall119> hmmm, you'll probably really only use bzr-apps
[15:27] <mhall119> assuming you're gonna use ubuntu-website/light-django-theme
[15:29] <daker> well not sure i'll use light-django-theme because the work is based on the qa team blog and we have got some mockups from the design team
[15:30] <daker> mhall119, bzr-apps ? what it will contains ?
[16:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: you on road trip ?
[16:28] <TrickyJ> Hi al
[16:29] <TrickyJ> happy new year in adv :)
[17:11] <leoquant> ^^
[17:18] <mhall119> czajkowski: we leave tomorrow morning
[17:18] <czajkowski> mhall119: have fun :)
[17:18] <mhall119> we plan to
[17:18] <mhall119> I hope we'll see snow, but the forcast isn't looking good
[17:19] <czajkowski> weirdo wanting snow
[17:19] <czajkowski> *mutters*
[17:19] <mhall119> I want a little snow
[17:19] <czajkowski> should have visted this way 2 weeks ago!
[17:19] <mhall119> yeah, but then i'd never get home
[17:19] <czajkowski> true
[17:19] <czajkowski> :)
[17:19] <mhall119> also, that's quite a drive
[17:19] <czajkowski> hows the kiddies?
[17:19] <czajkowski> mhall119: I've seen your boating skills!
[17:20] <mhall119> kiddies are so excited I want to throttle them
[17:20] <mhall119> czajkowski: ideas for solving that bug?
[17:20] <mhall119> should we just have a word filter?
[17:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: you cannot throttle your cute kids!
[17:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: count 1-2-3
[17:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: it's annoying as it's only identi.ca spam :(
[17:21] <mhall119> a 12 hour drive with them is going to be....interesting
[17:22] <mhall119> czajkowski: well that's probably because the twitter feed isn't working anymore
[17:22] <mhall119> I noticed that yesterday
[17:22] <mhall119> twitter is only returning one entry
[17:23] <mhall119> I think the twitter feed doesn't return anything older than 7 days
[17:24] <mhall119> while identi.ca goes back indefinitely
[17:25] <czajkowski> mhall119: nods I never realised it was random the comments shown
[17:25] <czajkowski> atm comments there from 131 days ago
[17:25] <mhall119> twidenash is going to get a major re-write soonish
[17:25] <czajkowski> as well as current stuff
[17:25] <mhall119> yeah, looks like current twitter stuff and ancient identi.ca stuff
[17:25] <czajkowski> mhall119: tbh it's not at all urgent just logged the bug can be looked at next week as far as I am concerned tis still xmas hols for many people
[17:26] <czajkowski> mhall119: will they say are we there yet a lot, are the dogs going as well?
[17:26] <mhall119> yeah, I won't be doing anything until after my trip
[17:26] <mhall119> czajkowski: blake is going, little dog is going to the in-laws
[17:26] <czajkowski> oh dear
[17:26] <czajkowski> talk about nose out of joint
[17:26] <mhall119> kids have books, coloring supplies and DVD player
[17:27] <czajkowski> so in theory should be occupied! or play a game of I spy!
[17:27] <mhall119> we took blake camping several hours north of here during the summer, he did well enough then
[17:27] <mhall119> yeah, they've learned I-spy lately, they're not very good at it
[17:27] <mhall119> they'll pick something as we're diving past it
[17:27] <mhall119> it'll be 5 miles gone before we all give up
[17:27] <czajkowski> lol
[17:28] <czajkowski> makes for a fun 5 miles though
[17:28] <czajkowski> mhall119: wave hello at herself for me!
[17:28] <czajkowski> ~I need some of her corn bread!
[17:28] <czajkowski> and ribs!
[17:28] <mhall119> her corn bread, my ribs ;)
[17:28] <mhall119> she says hello
[17:29] <czajkowski> mhall119: great combo in food also!
[17:29] <mhall119> I'm rather fond of it myself
[17:29] <mhall119> hopefully we'll have another UDS in Orlando so you can come back for seconds
[17:32] <czajkowski> :D
[21:39] <cjohnston> mornin
[21:40] <mhall119> czajkowski: when you can, this branch has been sitting in limbo for a while, and I'd really like to get it approved or killed
[21:40] <mhall119> I just need someone to say "yay" or "nay" on the text
[21:40] <mhall119> https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/fixes-609695/+merge/31227
[21:41] <mhall119> YoBoY is, of course, free to provide whatever French translation would be best ;)
[21:41] <czajkowski> *grin*
[21:41] <cjohnston> im -1 on it
[21:41] <cjohnston> i dont think its needed
[21:43] <mhall119> cjohnston: don't make me waste perfectly good code
[21:43] <mhall119> there's starving users on Windows without access to any code at all
[21:43] <cjohnston> i will
[21:43] <cjohnston> lol
[21:43] <cjohnston> give it to them
[21:44] <czajkowski> dont make me  come over there cjohnston :p
[21:44] <cjohnston> I believe you miswrote that.. "please make me come over there cjohnston"
[21:44] <cjohnston> you know you want to go back to disney
[21:45] <mhall119> a real disney
[21:46] <mhall119> man, British to American translations still make me laugh
[21:47] <cjohnston> whats doing british to american translations
[21:47] <mhall119> czajkowski is denting in british
[21:47] <cjohnston> umm
[21:47] <cjohnston> how are you gonna fix the porn problem
[21:48] <mhall119> short-term, by posting enough clean tweets/dents to get them knocked off the page
[21:48] <cjohnston> lol
[21:48] <mhall119> long-term, by re-writing twidenash to accept a word filter
[21:49] <cjohnston> what if they dont use any words that hit the filter
[21:49] <mhall119> it's not going to catch 100%
[21:49] <cjohnston> heh
[21:49] <czajkowski> I had thought only people suscribed to locodir could post which would be one way of tackling the identi.ca spam
[21:49] <mhall119> but I think a short list would catch >90%
[21:49] <czajkowski> aye
[21:50] <czajkowski> and if there can be a loop hole somewhere where messy ones get through can be removed easily enough I don't think there will be too much of an issue
[21:50] <mhall119> yeah, but identi.ca isn't where the problem is coming from
[21:50] <czajkowski> tis..
[21:51] <mhall119> oh right, it is isn't it
[21:51] <mhall119> ...
[21:51] <mhall119> hey, in that case, hurray for identi.ca getting enough market share to warrant spam!
[21:51] <czajkowski> :s
[21:52] <czajkowski> clearly too much sun mhall119
[21:52] <mhall119> s/sun/monitor glare/


[02:43] <zul> heylo
[02:51] <jbailey> Zoool
[02:58] <zul> the only one..
[03:00] <jbailey> How's things in Ottawa-land?
[03:00] <zul> good...rainy though
[03:00] <jbailey> Same here.
[03:00] <jbailey> I think Montral and Ottawa share weather patterns
[03:00] <zul> im going to the season opener at the corel center tomorrow...wohoo
[03:00] <zul> yeah
[03:00] <jbailey> Err.
[03:00] <zul> its cold as well
[03:00] <jbailey> I'm assuming you don't mean that they close the Corel Centre for the summmer..
[03:01] <zul> no its open for concerts and stuff and they have a couple of restraunts and a ymca or something
[03:01] <jbailey> Ah.  What will they be showing tomorrow?
[03:02] <zul> senators vs sabres
[03:03] <jbailey> Sounds like names of Sports teams.  Which sport?
[03:03] <zul> hockey
[03:03] <jbailey> Oh cool!  Have they stopped being on strike now?
[03:04] <jbailey> I saw a hockey game on TV the other night, but I wasn't sure if it was more overseas stuff.
[03:04] <zul> yeah they stopped a couple of months ago season just started on wednesday
[03:04] <zul> my productivity goes way down now ;)
[03:04] <jbailey> Nice.
[03:05] <jbailey> Although I can see taking a year off being good for the soul.
[03:05] <jbailey> So good on 'em for taking a sebaticle =)
[03:05] <zul> yeah they can live like normal people for once without their money
[03:23] <jbailey> If they didn't have enough saved up and invested to live off the residuals, then its their own problem.
[04:55] <jbailey> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[04:55] <jbailey> (for zul)
[05:44] <zul> heh...thanks
[06:59] <zul> hey johnm
[07:01] <fabbione> yo
[07:02] <BenC> hey fab
[07:02] <fabbione> hey BenC
[07:03] <fabbione> BenC: did you finish your movement?
[07:03] <fabbione> we could seriously make use of your e3k now
[07:03] <fabbione> given that davem just fixed oo2 for us
[07:03] <BenC> yeah, but no internet at the new house yet
[07:03] <fabbione> ah
[07:03] <fabbione> ETA?
[07:03] <BenC> next week
[07:04] <fabbione> *sighs*
[07:04] <BenC> I had to get satellite internet
[07:04] <BenC> the cable company pretty much fed me full of shit, and then wanted to quote me $28,000 to get cable run to my house (4900 feet of cable at $7/foot)
[07:05] <fabbione> doh
[07:05] <fabbione> are they nuts?
[07:05] <BenC> not sure, but I accused of being nuts :)
[07:05] <fabbione> ok
[07:05] <fabbione> we are really on the edge right now.. timewise
[07:05] <BenC> not even sure why they would bother quoting me that at all
[07:05] <fabbione> and people keep uploading tons of pkgs for main
[07:06] <fabbione> anyway davem is running breezy on a couple of his sparcs..
[07:07] <fabbione> he seems pretty happy with it
[07:07] <fabbione> modulo firefox crashing
[07:08] <jbailey> BenC: Sattelite internet pretty much makes using your sparcs unlikely. =)
[07:09] <jbailey> Or doing anything interactice over that link, really...
[07:10] <\sh> BenC: up+downstream over sat, or only downstream?
[07:15] <BenC> both
[07:16] <BenC> they have a 2Mbs down, 1Mbs up package
[07:16] <BenC> yeah, the latency is bad, but it should be ok
[07:17] <\sh> BenC: nice :) ok..forget the 512ms latency..in 1997 we did some experiments with internet over sat as backup lines for ISPs in germany
[07:18] <BenC> I had sat internet a few years ago, but it was only 64k up, so I'm hoping this will be a little better
[07:21] <\sh> BenC: at this time it was quite expensive 30k DM installation costs (sat dish 4.50m diameter and some other special german goverment stuff) and the line itself was 3mbit down + 1mbit up and was 10k DM per month
[07:21] <BenC> plus the hardware they have now is stand-alone and acts as a router
[07:21] <BenC> so I don't need to have win98 running my LAN and reboot it every 3 hours
[07:22] <fabbione> ehehe
[07:23] <BenC> IIRC, they use hughes equipment now, which would mean that the router is a linux based system
[07:24] <johnm> 'lo all
[07:24] <johnm> zul: hi
[07:24] <BenC> hey johnm
[07:24] <johnm> Just got home, so it's a bit belated.
[07:25] <johnm> BenC: whats the possibility of long-haul wireless?
[07:25] <johnm> BenC: 3.4Ghz or even microwave?
[07:26] <fabbione> they are expensive
[07:26] <johnm> I worked for the Teleco, and now for the competing ISP.
[07:26] <fabbione> i am happy with my 6Mb adsl
[07:26] <fabbione> :)
[07:26] <johnm> We have a license for this stuff, so i tend to enhoy 25mbit or so just for me :)
[07:27] <johnm> Not many places im the UK are dealing with ADSL2+ yes
[07:27] <fabbione> ehhe not too bad
[07:27] <johnm> in*
[07:27] <fabbione> i hope we will get fibers soon here..
[07:27] <johnm> yet*
[07:27] <fabbione> at least that's the plan for the block
[07:27] <johnm> where is here? :)
[07:27] <mkrufky> is this a new technology?  i havent heard of 2.4 Ghz wifi band
[07:27] <johnm> 3.4?
[07:27] <fabbione> johnm: dk.
[07:27] <mkrufky> oops.. thats what i meant
[07:27] <johnm> fabbione: ah.. nice.
[07:27] <mkrufky> of course we all know 2.4Ghz
[07:27] <fabbione> yup..
[07:27] <johnm> mkrufky: it's not new. but it's not very common
[07:27] <fabbione> up to 100Mb
[07:27] <fabbione> fiber
[07:28] <johnm> fabbione: would be nice. That would be cheap kit im sure :\
[07:28] <mkrufky> johnm:  wow... very interesting... does it have a name?
[07:28] <fabbione> johnm: it is cheap :)
[07:28] <johnm> fabbione: always a good thing for consumers
[07:28] <johnm> mkrufky: Not particular. it's all ATM stuff ostly. Check out Cambridge Broadband
[07:29] <fabbione> yeah
[07:29] <mkrufky> ah, ok
[07:30] <johnm> :(
[07:30] <johnm> email is such a burden!
[07:31] <johnm> not sure what anyone else is like.. would be interesting to know, but I get about 700 mails a day (roughly). Out of that 45% is legitimate mail. Out of that there are about 30% which I can safely ignore.
[07:31] <johnm> Seems to take forever!
[07:31] <fabbione> eheh
[07:31] <fabbione> 700 emails is NOTHING
[07:32] <johnm> Are you including or excluding LKML+friends? :)
[07:32] <fabbione> run amavis-ng or something..
[07:32] <johnm> yeah, I considered that.
[07:32] <fabbione> i am not subbed to LKML anymore
[07:32] <johnm> I do have it on my server, but my server is dead until I setup sticks somewhere else.
[07:32] <fabbione> between friends, mailing list and no LKML i get around 3K emails/day already filtered
[07:32] <johnm> So everything right now is clientside, except for procmail serverside.
[07:33] <johnm> Thats a little more than me :)
[07:33] <fabbione> last week it went down to a 1K or so
[07:33] <mkrufky> i have about the same
[07:33] <johnm> I think im about 2k give or take a few hundred with lists.
[07:33] <BenC> johnm: not likely around where I am, I looked into long range wireless about a year ago, and there's just no one around to do it
[07:33] <mkrufky> i just tell my friends to call me
[07:33] <fabbione> given that i unsubbed from almost all debian mailing list
[07:33] <johnm> BenC: shame :(
[07:37] <johnm> anyone else fed up of seeing the cmdline !> 256 bug/patch :(
[09:03] <zul> i use smoke signals
[09:10] <mkrufky> zul: not easy to send kernel patches using smoke signals
[09:20] <zul> mkrufky: hmm...or carrier pigeons
[09:22] <jbailey> At least avian carriers have a standard...
[09:27] <zul> true
[10:15] <mkrufky> think of all those poor carrier pigeons risking their lives for LKML
[10:30] <zul> you know there are some flaming carrier pigeons as well ;)
[10:30] <zul> anyways im heading home
[10:31] <zul> later


[05:01] <Guest44795> hi zaki
[05:01] <Researcher-> Good morning
[05:01] <Researcher-> hello Zaki
[05:01] <Researcher-> :)
[05:01] <Researcher-> hi Guest
[05:01] <Guest44795> hi brb
[05:01] <Researcher-> ok
[06:25] <Researcher-> morning Kilos
[06:26] <Researcher-> welcome back
[06:26] <Researcher-> :)
[06:26] <Kilos> morning Researcher- thank you
[06:26] <Kilos> i just woke up
[06:26] <Kilos> slept late today
[06:26]  * Researcher- prepares a nice cup of coffee to Kilos
[06:26] <Kilos> how are you
[06:26] <Kilos> ty
[06:27] <Researcher-> I am all fine all good, ty so much for asking
[06:27] <Researcher-> you tell, how is family and how is work
[06:27] <Researcher-> :)
[06:27] <Guest44795> hi Kilos hi Researcher
[06:27] <Kilos> everything fine here just cold with snow on the mountains and wind blowing over the snow to us
[06:27] <Guest44795> Researcher thanks for setting up my server
[06:27] <Kilos> hi Guest44795
[06:28] <Guest44795> hi Kilos
[06:28] <Researcher-> coool
[06:28] <Researcher-> i love snow
[06:28] <Kilos> eeeeeek
[06:29] <Kilos> too cold for old people
[06:29] <Researcher-> i wish some day ill visit za with my wife
[06:29] <Researcher-> ahhhh
[06:29] <Researcher-> did that herbal tea worked for you ?
[06:29] <Researcher-> :)
[06:29] <Researcher-> did you tried
[06:29] <Researcher-> ?
[06:29] <Kilos> nope still have the same flu
[06:29] <Researcher-> ohhh
[06:29] <Researcher-> and tea ?
[06:29] <Researcher-> are you taking ?
[06:30] <Kilos> yes i drink what is called rooibos tea
[06:30] <Kilos> za herbal tea
[06:30] <Researcher-> but i gave you recepie if you remember
[06:30] <Researcher-> :)
[06:30] <Kilos> yes i have it
[06:30] <Researcher-> i think you didnt tried it.
[06:30] <Researcher-> ahhh
[06:30] <Kilos> let me check
[06:30] <Researcher-> if you tried then i have plan B for you.
[06:31] <Researcher-> this time a different thing..
[06:31] <Kilos> the one with honey and mint and pepper and ginger?
[06:32] <Researcher-> yeahh
[06:32] <Researcher-> :)
[06:32] <Researcher-> u remember now
[06:32] <Kilos> i have tried that for 3 days
[06:32] <Kilos> this is the worst flu ever
[06:32] <Kilos> normally flu dies in 3 or 4 days
[06:32] <Researcher-> so this means you dont have a throad related infections i.e not related to tonses
[06:33] <Kilos> nope
[06:33] <Researcher-> You must be having a weak amune and chest infection all together
[06:33] <Kilos> cough and runny nose doesnt want to clear up
[06:33] <Researcher-> so for you... this formuales will worked effectively and its yummy
[06:33] <Kilos> ok ill try it
[06:34] <Researcher-> 2 teaspon garlic and ginger paste add with chicken wings OR chicken necks OR both together, fried it till it get golden brown and it start sticking like burning ..
[06:35] <Researcher-> ADD salt and black papper ( black pepper as much as you can bear )
[06:35] <Researcher-> fried then well and add the water like 3 cups in 6 chicken wings or 8 necks or both in equivalent quantity
[06:36] <Researcher-> and no need to add any thing. boiled it till it leaves the bones ..
[06:36] <Researcher-> better to boiled it for 2-3 hours for the first time on a slow flame and covered pan
[06:36] <Researcher-> basically the chicken bones of wings and necks are miracally very strong
[06:37] <Researcher-> these both parst are more in excercise in chicken then any other body part
[06:37] <Researcher-> it will become a brown oe grey like soup which is the main key to success
[06:38] <Researcher-> prepare it and you can keep it even for one week without any risk
[06:38] <Researcher-> after putting in bowl add egg without yolk
[06:38] <Researcher-> this is really energetic soup
[06:39] <Researcher-> and too much strong to produce heat in your chest and melts the dried cough on the chest surface
[06:39] <Researcher-> at first it will give you lot of cough.. but you dont need to drink water untill tooo much necessary
[06:39] <Researcher-> believe me take it for 3 days and you will never leave it in your entire life
[06:40] <Kilos> ok  ty ill start this today if we have chicken wings and necks
[06:40] <Researcher-> stop taking bread ... as it will mix with nosella/ the cough luquid which will go in your stomach after melt down, could become a reason of constipation
[06:40] <Researcher-> rice you can take with this delicious recepie
[06:40] <Researcher-> even you can add 2 teaspoon olive oil before taking it.
[06:40] <Researcher-> :)
[06:41] <Researcher-> olive oil is also hot in nature .. so will be very effective you feel pain over your eyebrows on nose veins
[06:41] <Researcher-> :)
[06:41] <Kilos> ok
[06:42] <Researcher-> great great
[06:42] <Researcher-> chicken wings and necks are the strongest part of chiken
[06:42] <Kilos> yes
[06:43] <Researcher-> because these parts are constantly in action for chicken
[06:43] <Researcher-> also they have very soft sleak layer of white meat which is the best of all.
[06:43] <Researcher-> i dont preffer any chicken part other then necks and wings
[06:43] <Researcher-> :)
[06:44] <Kilos> i will try it
[06:44] <Researcher-> you may add carrot and capsicum to make it more amusing and foody
[06:44] <Researcher-> :)
[06:44] <Kilos> we have always used chicken soup when we have flu
[06:44] <Kilos> but this is a bad one
[06:45] <Researcher-> i hope this wings and neck will clear your chest and throad and you will be fast like a chicken in few days
[06:45] <Kilos> lol ty
[06:45] <Researcher-> :D
[06:45] <Researcher-> hehehe
[06:46] <Kilos> so how are plans going to revive your loco
[06:46] <Researcher-> i had once this issue for six months .. it was a swanflu
[06:46] <Kilos> we need to get guys here that are interested in helping
[06:46] <Researcher-> yeah
[06:46] <Kilos> oh yes sineflu
[06:46] <Kilos> swineflu
[06:46] <Researcher-> i am inviting
[06:47] <Kilos> good
[06:47] <Researcher-> yeah swineflu but unfortunately 7 years back i was jobless and empty pockets
[06:47] <Kilos> eish
[06:47] <Researcher-> i even never got the lab test for it..
[06:47] <Researcher-> later with symptoms i came to know about this issue
[06:47] <Kilos> ah
[06:48] <Researcher-> so i took the same soup with capsicum carrot and honey as my daily diet
[06:48] <Kilos> things are difficult when cash flow is low
[06:48] <Researcher-> and thanks to God i recovered without any medical treatment
[06:48] <Kilos> wonderful
[06:48] <Researcher-> actually i lefted my father home that time, otherwise i belong to a quite rich family
[06:48] <Researcher-> my father challeneged me to live on my own
[06:49] <Kilos> ah
[06:49] <Researcher-> also due to swine flue my weight reduced to 48 KG on a heaith of 6.1 feet
[06:49] <Researcher-> so he thought i am taking drugs
[06:49] <Kilos> wow
[06:49] <Researcher-> so he ask me to leave even i was in the wost time of my life
[06:49] <Kilos> shame man
[06:50] <Researcher-> my father was personnel secretary to ministry of defence of KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA
[06:50] <Researcher-> and he was a hitler type army guy... who once draw the line you cant pass it
[06:50] <Researcher-> so i took the challenge and i went back to home after 7 years on his funeral 3 months back
[06:51] <Kilos> whew
[06:51] <Researcher-> i escaped from the country where talent have no value
[06:51] <Researcher-> did lot of low level jobs to maintain my residence in abroad
[06:52] <Researcher-> now i am OMAN GAS as an I.T Admin / Finance Executive and secretary to chairman
[06:52] <Kilos> great, well done
[06:52] <Researcher-> i am married on my own and i did a great wedding, when my father saw my wedding pics on my facebook he was shocked to see me alive
[06:52] <Researcher-> and he was not able to recognized me
[06:52] <Researcher-> because i am 108 kg MAN now
[06:52] <Researcher-> :D
[06:52] <Kilos> wow
[06:53] <Researcher-> he told to everyone that this was my son who left the money for his own destiny
[06:53] <Researcher-> he was showing me wedding picks to everyone.. and was telling i am proud that he did such a great way
[06:54] <Kilos> good
[06:54] <Researcher-> unfortunately before i can speak to him he passed away
[06:54] <Researcher-> :)
[06:54] <Kilos> shame man
[06:54] <Kilos> life has funny twists and turns
[06:54] <Researcher-> may god forgive his sins and give him to heavens as HE gave me born otherwise i was just a piece of sperm somewhere in toilets
[06:55] <Researcher-> when i left home my childhood love left me, we bother were with each other for 18 years
[06:55] <Researcher-> she said what you have and how you will manage now without your family support and home
[06:56] <Researcher-> i went through those days i slept on flat straight roads .. i used to have my own waterbed
[06:56] <Researcher-> 3-3 days i used to live on tea and biscuits and there was no way i can find
[06:57] <Researcher-> i even didnt pick up my phone charger from home, i was wearing one tshirt and jeans even i didnt had a cold cloth over
[06:57] <Kilos> ouch
[06:58] <Researcher-> but i took the challege and ask to God that you runs this entire galaxy plant humans and you give everyone and why dont me..
[06:58] <Researcher-> i even went on bus and i pretend to checker that i lost my purse, that good guy dropped me 3 hours away from my home on an unknow place where all low level poor people used to live.. i started my life from there
[06:59] <Kilos> whew
[06:59] <Kilos> you have done well, so walk proud
[06:59] <Researcher-> Kilos to feel better but not proud on this land...
[07:00] <Kilos> and guide other youngsters to success
[07:00] <Researcher-> because what i have earn is useless if i dont hold the hand of someone in trouble
[07:00] <Researcher-> i do
[07:00] <Kilos> yes but many countries are in trouble
[07:00] <Kilos> the world is sick
[07:00] <Researcher-> i helped lot of guys even till my last penny of salary.. i spend on tution fees of some relative children, i sponcer the,
[07:01] <Kilos> only a few still walk the straight path
[07:01] <Researcher-> sometime my wife complain why you waste your money, because she dont know what happened in me...
[07:01] <Kilos> you should sit her down and tell her the whole story
[07:02] <Researcher-> Kilos the straight path is very very difficult but there is no holes, dips, roundabouts
[07:02] <Kilos> yes thats why most take detours
[07:02] <Researcher-> yeah i thought some time, but i stop that she might get sad
[07:02] <Kilos> she will love you more
[07:03] <Researcher-> yeah some day ill tell her every thing... she wanted to see my parent house that day ill tell her.
[07:03] <Researcher-> when i bought my first smart phone, from my owned money, i cant tell you how happy to see the internet back in my hand
[07:03] <Researcher-> then for 1st laptop it took me months
[07:04] <Researcher-> and even i preffered these two instead taking shelter on rent
[07:04] <Kilos> i wish you everything of the best. not many have the strength to achieve success after such a hard start
[07:04] <Researcher-> i was still staying at Gods house because i found a free wifi near to it.
[07:04] <Researcher-> thanks you i were never knew i can get this
[07:05] <Researcher-> even when i came abroad the employer cheater on contract and gave me a very less salary.. but i said to my self i am not a QUITTER
[07:05] <Researcher-> :)
[07:05] <Kilos> good
[07:05] <Researcher-> now i dont earn tooo much, but it is enough to survive good
[07:05] <Researcher-> i happy on what i have
[07:06] <Researcher-> and God blessed me with every thing.
[07:06] <Kilos> yes
[07:06] <Kilos> you also worked hard for it
[07:06] <Researcher-> money castles cars, every things will remain here, only a good soul will left
[07:06] <Kilos> correct
[07:07] <Kilos> thats what most dont understand
[07:07] <Kilos> nothing from this life can go with you
[07:07] <Researcher-> actually kilos i were also not familiar with the truth of life, until i went on the biggest universities of this world
[07:08] <Researcher-> the biggest universities of the world is ROADS
[07:08] <Kilos> keep your path clean with God , thats all that counts
[07:08] <Researcher-> what we learn from ROADS we cant learn from any university
[07:08] <Kilos> correct
[07:09] <Researcher-> i used to wait long long for the buses and today i pass the same places at the speed of 120
[07:09] <Kilos> lol
[07:09] <Researcher-> but i still kept my old things, my jeans my tshirt and a broken wallet
[07:10] <Kilos> reminders of the hard times
[07:10] <Researcher-> yes a lesson from the hard times which kept me in order ...
[07:11] <Researcher-> this is my desipline
[07:11] <Kilos> good
[07:13] <Researcher-> thanks bro
[07:13] <Researcher-> sorry i went off topic
[07:13] <Kilos> no problem
[07:13] <Kilos> its good to discuss these things
[07:13] <Kilos> there is no topic here
[07:14] <Kilos> the topic bar above shows nothing
[07:14] <Researcher-> :)
[07:14] <Researcher-> ty so much
[07:14] <Researcher-> brb my boss is calling ill be back
[07:14] <Kilos> ok
[07:14] <Kilos> i must go sort things outside as well, but will be in and out all day
[07:16] <Researcher-> :)
[07:16] <Researcher-> take your time bro
[07:16] <Researcher-> i am planning to revive this place again
[07:25] <Kilos> we can work together and even get pavel and those guys to work with us here too
[07:25] <Researcher-> yeah sure bro
[07:25] <Researcher-> why not.
[07:25] <Kilos> revise all of asia as a target
[07:26] <Researcher-> from asia i have lot of friends all over the world
[07:26] <Kilos> i started with pavel
[07:26] <Researcher-> because i am on more the 10 irc networks since last 16 years
[07:26] <Researcher-> this is nice.
[07:26] <Kilos> good
[07:27] <Kilos> my whole aim is to promote ubuntu and get things working like when ubuntu started
[07:27] <Researcher-> i am planning to raise one informatiove page, which can bring users here
[07:27] <Kilos> people have lost the way
[07:27] <Kilos> good
[07:27] <Researcher-> Kilos the ubuntu variants divided the ubuntu users
[07:28] <Researcher-> backtrack did a lot of damage
[07:28] <Kilos> todays people think facebook is the ultimate
[07:28] <Researcher-> no no
[07:28] <Researcher-> facebook is rubbish
[07:28] <Kilos> in za we have all the variants and even other linux users
[07:28] <Researcher-> but we ca integrate irc chat via webchat applet as an facebook aap
[07:28] <Researcher-> *app
[07:29] <Kilos> i hate facebook
[07:29] <Researcher-> well i found in effective way as the reunion of school friends..
[07:29] <Researcher-> it help me a lot finding them
[07:29] <Kilos> but if there is a way to pull people back to the irc way thats good i suppose
[07:30] <Kilos> yes it has its uses
[07:30] <Researcher-> well, webchat irc can do the trick
[07:31] <Kilos> we need to do what i did with the afica group
[07:31] <Kilos> africa
[07:31] <Researcher-> i can do that
[07:32] <Researcher-> :)
[07:32] <Kilos> all linux users are welcome
[07:32] <Kilos> i dont see any reason why we should be separated
[07:32] <Researcher-> but the prob is with the access to official domain name
[07:33] <Researcher-> yes good approach
[07:33] <Kilos> i run the africa group as an ubuntu platform but everyone is welcome to join in
[07:34] <Kilos> that is one of mankinds weaknesses
[07:34] <Kilos> everyone has their own little groups all over
[07:34] <Kilos> why
[07:35] <Kilos> we must stand strong as a linux community, and not look down on others who choose different linux systems
[07:36] <Researcher-> totally agree you
[07:36] <Researcher-> Kilos see this
[07:36] <Researcher-> Ubuntu Linux Meetups
[07:36] <Researcher-> Meet-ups across Pakistan.
[07:36] <Researcher-> Members across Pakistan are being encouraged to organize Launch Parties and Ubuntu Meetups upon suitability.
[07:36] <Researcher-> Active
[07:36] <Researcher-> Fouad Riaz Bajwa
[07:36] <Researcher-> Ubuntu Linux Across Public and Academic Sectors
[07:36] <Researcher-> Supporting Governments to introduce Ubuntu Linux throughout government offices and public sector schools in Pakistan
[07:36] <Researcher-> Progress has been made and details have been shared with Canonical Ltd.
[07:36] <Researcher-> Active
[07:36] <Researcher-> Fouad Riaz Bajwa
[07:36] <Researcher-> Seminar Series
[07:36] <Researcher-> Planning Seminars to introduce various FOSS Models and Ubuntu-Linux for 2011
[07:36] <Researcher-> Official partner for ICOSST'2010 in December. Participated and gave lecture at UET Lahore Open Source Conference Event.
[07:36] <Researcher-> Getting Started
[07:36] <Kilos> people fight and argue over nonsense
[07:37] <Kilos> good
[07:37] <Researcher-> most of the positions by Fouad riaz bajwa
[07:37] <Researcher-> and never got active since 2007 here
[07:37] <Kilos> yes why/
[07:37] <Kilos> ?
[07:37] <Kilos> what drove people apart
[07:38] <Researcher-> actually KBs, less activity and less attension
[07:38] <Kilos> the main point is, to let people believe again in growing ubuntu and of course all linux platforms
[07:39] <Kilos> the enemy is microsoft not linux
[07:39] <Researcher-> yes
[07:39] <Researcher-> microsoft is a hellll
[07:39] <Kilos> why do we bicker about small things
[07:39] <Kilos> we must all unite
[07:40] <Researcher-> true
[07:40] <Researcher-> actually without op this channel looks abandon
[07:40] <Kilos> yes
[07:41] <Researcher-> Kilos is possible to request an op access for a bot here in channl
[07:41] <Researcher-> i will design an interesting bot with linux newses
[07:41] <Kilos> find the owner and ask him to hand over admin rights
[07:41] <Researcher-> thats the issue
[07:41] <Kilos> yes ill get help asking for bots etc when i get back from frm work
[07:42] <Kilos> farm
[07:42] <Researcher-> no problem
[07:42] <Researcher-> i am ready to prepare bots for this channel
[07:42] <Researcher-> :)
[07:42] <Kilos> the logbot is here
[07:42] <Researcher-> take your time bro
[07:43] <Researcher-> Kilos : sorry to disturb you .. look here
[07:43] <Researcher-> -ChanServ- Information on #ubuntu-pk:
[07:43] <Researcher-> -ChanServ- Founder    : UbuntuIrcCouncil
[07:44] <Kilos> i will ask the irc council
[07:44] <Researcher-> it is under council they took back from loco-team lead ...
[07:44] <Kilos> i will see if i can see whats going on
[07:44] <Researcher-> may be they took measures on my concerns
[07:44] <Researcher-> sure bro
[07:44] <Kilos> yes we must try find what the issues were and how we can resolve them
[07:45] <Researcher-> sure sir.
[07:45] <Kilos> ill be back later
[07:45] <Researcher-> sure bro
[07:45] <Researcher-> take your time
[07:45] <Kilos> ty
[07:45] <Researcher-> :)
[09:28] <Kilos> im back
[09:42] <Kilos> try find the date and reason the council rmoved it please, because councils change every 2 years and everyone is always busy so with facts and dates i can push the new council
[09:42] <Kilos> and not have them say they havent time to go search in archives
[10:44] <Kilos> maybe even council nick names involved at the time
[10:44] <Kilos> Researcher-


[08:53] <Noskcaj> roaksoax, kirkland: Does testdrive stuff warrant a recommendation for MOTU?
[08:54] <Noskcaj> who else has sponsored stuff for me?
[08:56] <Noskcaj> cjwatson, mfisch, slangasek: Can i have a comment on my MOTU wiki page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#MOTU
[08:56] <Noskcaj> sorry for all the pings
[20:04] <slangasek> Noskcaj: have I sponsored uploads of yours?  http://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi doesn't show anything
[20:05] <Noskcaj> slangasek, I thought so. Thanks for the link. i fornot about it
[20:05] <Noskcaj> *forgot
[20:05] <slangasek> yeah, I had to dig through wikis to find it :)
[20:06] <Noskcaj> FYI: It's linked on ubuntuwire
[20:09] <Noskcaj> so dholbach, micahg, mitya, Riddell and pitti are the ones i need Testimonials from


[00:19] <daftykins> i love it when a past self puts in the work beforehand
[00:19] <daftykins> then you can roll in, get a curry... and vegetate
[12:09] <zxmpi> todays the day to shuffle to shop to pick up magpi mag. only upside to any thursday ever
[23:18] <diddledani> wee https://ubuntu-accomplishments.org/


[02:46] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[02:46] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[02:47] <cyberanger> linuxman410: sorry, I am too distracted tonight though
[02:47] <linuxman410> ok
[02:48] <cyberanger> I just leaving work now, gott eat
[02:48] <linuxman410> ttl
[02:48] <cyberanger> thx for understanding linuxman410 ttyl
[03:13] <cyberanger> sorry linuxman410
[03:13] <cyberanger> I am glad for IRC on my G2, at least I can see messages and reply, hate it more when they just sorta sit idle with no clue
[03:14] <Unit193> He be gone
[03:21] <cyberanger> Unit193: yep, he's fitting his norm (and my norm of saying it anyhow, on the offchance a logbot tells him ;-))
[03:22] <cyberanger> Unit193: Have you tried Weechat?
[03:24] <Unit193> Didn't remember what I had? ;)
[03:24] <Unit193> I have tried it once, but I have this all configured
[03:25] <cyberanger> Unit193: sorta, was afraid I was mixing details up (and if it said xchat or purple, I had other questions in mind too)
[03:25] <Unit193> There are some features of weechat I miss, but I like irssi. What one do you use?
[03:25] <cyberanger> Unit193: what about bitlbee?
[03:26] <Unit193> cyberanger: Nope on bitlbee, I still use Finch for that stuff
[03:26] <cyberanger> I use weechat and irssi, but since I use bitlbee, I've really leaned on weechat lately (the nicklist on the left is well suited for IM, more than IRC, so with bitlbee it's a plus)
[03:27] <cyberanger> Unit193: I used to use Finch, idk exactly why I quit
[03:27] <Unit193> It's heavy ;)
[03:27] <cyberanger> perhaps I got to a point where IRC just sorta got more intelligent than IM, so I did that, ignore the facebook pm's (seems to be where the junk is from)
[03:28] <Unit193> I don't have facebook on that one. I almost use it for email and if I want to send a quick link to my sis
[03:30] <cyberanger> I wish I could convert everyone to a better platform, but eh
[03:34] <Unit193> platform = OS or friend networking?
[03:34] <cyberanger> well, one step at a time, but overall, how about both
[03:35] <cyberanger> AIM, YIM, ICQ, Facebook Chat -> Jabber (I'd settle for GTalk, but ideally, a full server)
[03:36] <cyberanger> and Windows, Mac, Dos, -> Debian (or do I mean Ubuntu, the world may never know)
[03:36] <Unit193> DOS?
[03:36] <Unit193> People don't really still use that one I don't think...
[03:37] <cyberanger> well, MS-Dos -> FreeDOS at least
[03:38] <cyberanger> and it'd be rare, but I'm keeping in mind work, and not just personal setups
[03:38] <cyberanger> (not saying my work has Antiques, but I bet you if you look, you'll see somebody on old setups
[03:38] <cyberanger> somewhere)
[03:39] <cyberanger> I do have VirtualBox with FreeDOS (idk why I did that over DOSBox, but anyhow) for the same sorta reasons the Commodore64 is a geek toy still
[03:39] <cyberanger> it may not be cool, but it's old school
[03:39] <cyberanger> and it has old school games
[03:41] <Unit193> A few questions if I may? 1. What killed off ubotuTN 2. Why did you change from infocop411 > cyberanger 3. I found an old ML with the talk of logging bots in all channels, what do you think of that idea now? (I'm for logging, just not google friendly logging >_> )
[03:42] <Unit193> Feel free to ignore some/all questions
[03:42] <Unit193> One Must Fall 2097! ;)
[03:43] <cyberanger> I'll start with one that I presume you already know an answer to (Since you know of my old nick, I presume you saw an IRC Log or email on it)
[03:44] <cyberanger> Too many people knew it, it was too hard to tell where they knew me from, and it was the butt of enough jokes, this one holds similar meanings, but could be read 3 different ways (at least)
[03:45] <cyberanger> now on, it's mainly the OSS community that knows me as cyberanger (and only from IRC)
[03:45] <Unit193> infocop41@swissknife/adak/infocop411 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/UbotuTN
[03:46] <cyberanger> that hostmask isn't a old nick, it's the username (different setting, I could have that set to nearly anything)
[03:46] <cyberanger> as for UbotuTN, I presumed that was probally one of 4 sources for that, 3 bots and a mailing list
[03:47] <cyberanger> what killed off ubotuTN, our maintainer was Binarymutant, he hosted it, supported it, and was it's driving force, then he was compelled to adjust his life some (recession has been hard)
[03:47] <cyberanger> and with that, nobody stepped up to continue it
[03:48] <cyberanger> the logging email, you may want to be more specific
[03:49] <Unit193> Yeah... Sorry about not being clear... I'll see if I can find it again
[03:50] <cyberanger> all questions are reasonable, no need to ignore, if I've not been detailed on the questions, I'll try again (However, we've had various discussions on logging, over the years, that's unfortunately vauge)
[03:50] <cyberanger> however, from my perspective, which hasn't shifted much over the years, I can state that easily
[03:50] <Unit193><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:51] <cyberanger> this is a public channel, from a public irc server/network, with alot of idle clients (vs join/part & connect/disconnect clients)
[03:51] <cyberanger> anyone can log from a few methods
[03:52] <cyberanger> including myself, and anyone can output those logs onto a server (which google could potentally index) including myslef
[03:53] <cyberanger> the only reason I don't, is I don't need to, we've had logbots here before I joined the loco, and I cannot stop you from doing that anymore than you can me
[03:53] <cyberanger> my only defence is hoping your honest about logging, as I am
[03:54] <cyberanger> and here is my honesty, We do Log, The logs are searchable, members here may or may not log (and we cannot stop them from logging, since we cannot tell who is and is not)
[03:55] <cyberanger> I am pulling up the email as we speak, but I think I already recall that one
[03:55] <Unit193> My question had more to do with canonical logging bots, but thanks for ALL the info!
[03:56] <cyberanger> well, again, I cannot tell they're a bot, unless they're honest about it
[03:56] <Unit193> All channels I'm in get logged by me (So when I forget, I can just look it up :P )
[03:56] <cyberanger> I hate how they dictated policy so broadly, but we already had the bots, so it was moot
[03:57] <cyberanger> but that sort of one size fits all really isn't a wise thing, esp when they have in the past had a double standard (or maybe more accurately, a sliding scale)
[03:58] <Unit193> I do like the idea of -offtopic LoCo channels (So when I look stupid, it's not quite as easy to find :) )
[03:58] <cyberanger> locobot_4: isn't a canonical bot, it's the Ubuntu EU teams bot (which wasn't forced on us afaik) and I think that is the way to do it
[03:59] <cyberanger> unfortunately, idk of any loco that is on topic 95% of the time
[03:59] <Unit193> s/offtopic/unlogged/
[04:00] <cyberanger> so I sorta hate that, if it's a loco discussion, call mootbot, invite the logbot in
[04:00] <cyberanger> then ask it to leave, that is another option
[04:00] <Unit193> Ours gets "offtopic" all the time (We have even helped somone with their windows computer)
[04:02] <cyberanger> as have we, which is fine, someday they might switch cause they see the people consistantly helping them prefer a different system, and get curious as to why we're so loyal to it (however, honestly, my taste for ubuntu has soured lately, with unity mainly, but prior changes haven't helped either)
[04:02] <Unit193> I asked about ubotuTN because I noticed (And someone else liked it too) Kubotu was rbot and it has some better features when you look at supybot (We started a close because it was kicked, but we don't have it in any *ubuntu* channels)
[04:02] <Unit193> s/close/clone/
[04:03] <cyberanger> I think ubotuTN was more personal than technical at the starting moment of it's demise
[04:04] <cyberanger> oh shoot, running late (it's gonna be a long 24 hours)
[04:04] <Unit193> Yeah, I wasn't sure if you found something that really didn't mesh (with ubuntu or otherwise)
[04:04] <Unit193> cyberanger: Sorry I kept you!
[04:05] <cyberanger> Unit193: you didn't, it's more my nature (actually I'm not running late yet, merely behind my own plans, old spook saying "Early is On Time, On Time is Late, Late Is Death")
[04:06] <cyberanger> me personally, I found bloat upon bloat every few releases, and features that weren't really tweakable like the previous options, and things consistantly implemented more like a test release than a stable release
[04:07] <cyberanger> and found more and more modifing their own ideas, like Zenity, Openbox, SuperOS, Sidux, so on
[04:07] <cyberanger> and I then went down that road myself
[04:08] <cyberanger> Unit193: I don't mind carring this on another time, but better prepare for a long 24 hours
[04:08] <cyberanger> another time mate
[04:08] <Unit193> Have a great one!
[04:09]  * cyberanger detaches GNU Screen and shows off a little (and makes a note for later, rewrite my script for weechat announcing this when GNU Screen detaches, without my intervention)
[04:09] <cyberanger> Unit193: You too!
[04:09]  * cyberanger detaches GNU Screen
[15:39] <vychune> o/


[11:56] <Monkey_Dust> hi, the Dutch channel #ubuntu-nl could use some technical bots, what to do to this end?
[11:56] <bazhang> jpds, ^^
[11:56] <Monkey_Dust> :)
[11:56] <bazhang> most of the loco stuff is handled in here
[11:59] <Monkey_Dust> it's like a helpdesk: go ask over there, go ask over there, go ask etc ;)
[12:19] <erUSUL> Monkey_Dust: at least we avoid the horrible music while you wait :) you can listen to what you want ...
[12:25] <Monkey_Dust> true erUSUL :)
[12:34] <Tm_T> and incredibly pleasant company! (;)
[12:34]  * Tm_T hides
[12:34] <Monkey_Dust> you mean kim kardashian visits this place?
[12:35] <Tm_T> who's he?
[12:36] <Monkey_Dust> http://www.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/stylewatch/blog/080428/kim_kardashian_300x400.jpg&imgrefurl=http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2008/04/21/kim-kardashians-bikini-tips/&h=400&w=300&sz=29&tbnid=aCwZ5coS8wVJ3M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkim%2Bkardashian&zoom=1&q=kim+kardashian&hl=nl&usg=__OVZ5_7Jr7TNBqKZ3FkqhTPipB7s=&sa=X&ei=l1OwTJf5KoKO4gaJ_Lj6Bg&ved=0CC4Q9QEwBA
[12:36] <Tm_T> ...
[12:47] <Gotiniens> regarding Monkey_Dust's question: it seems it is on the agenda for the following team meeting
[12:47] <Gotiniens> http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Meetings/Meeting20101010 (in dutch)
[16:07] <erUSUL> !party
[21:48] <anoop> hello i need some help
[21:48] <anoop> i have some problem with my ubuntu system
[21:49] <erUSUL> anoop: the support channel is #ubuntu
[21:49] <anoop> thank you


[22:20] <veebers> thumper, babbageclunk: I figured out how to disable go-megacheck from on the fly runs (flycheck) if you need the same. Should only affect you if you have flycheck enabled etc.
[22:20] <thumper> I don't, but it might be useful
[22:22] <veebers> thumper: "(setq-default flycheck-disabled-checkers '(go-megacheck))", if you're using spacemacs chuck it in your dotspacemacs/user-init (didn't work for me in user-config)
[22:30] <babbageclunk> veebers: I use flycheck but I haven't had a problem with go-megacheck yet for some reason
[22:31] <babbageclunk> I'll use this if I do though, thanks!
[22:31] <veebers> babbageclunk: are you using spacemacs? I'm not sure why but once I had gometalinter installed it kicked in. I imagine it was setup but disabled due to no checker executable etc.
[22:58] <babbageclunk> veebers: no, I haven't tried to switch over to spacemacs yet
[23:02] <veebers> babbageclunk: ah right, yeah I imagine spacemacs had some pre-sets champing at the bit and only reared it's head once the binary was available