[12:00] <gnomefreak> mwe,  in all senses its heavey (for code atleast) and you havent noticed it takes forever to load?
[12:00] <boa-chan> amarok works fine with it
[12:00] <boa-chan> ooo im so leet
[12:00] <boa-chan> lol
[12:00] <gnomefreak> oh and its not quite freely distrubted
[12:00] <fredforfaen> i wanna use xcompmgr but i get No composite extension , even after i added composite "Enable" in org.con...what to do?
[12:00] <ompaul> !tell boa-chan about enter
[12:00] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah and it eats half my sytem memory
[12:01] <boa-chan> oh ok, heh
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> Hello.  I've got an apparent fstab configuration error...  it mounts the partitions correctly, but not with the right permissions
[12:01] <fredforfaen> xorg.conf*
[12:01] <gnomefreak> and to think i start a java class in jan :(
[12:01] <HurricaneJ> ok thanks i got the answer for my mp3 needs
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> I can't read anything unless I'm root
[12:01] <greenpenguin13> python :)
[12:01] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: put user under options
[12:01] <crimsun> NeoSHODAN: NTFS partition? pass umask=022
[12:01] <poseidon_linux_B> sorry... I got offline... lets try again... well, someone can help? I need a information if the Ubuntu customized for HP notebooks is better than the normal 5.10 Breezy (which is newer)... what is better for hardware support?
[12:01] <HurricaneJ> now im searching for a wireless network manager like the one windows have to see what networks are within my range
[12:01] <gnomefreak> they dont have python yet but i have books its just a pita compared to C
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> user is under options, that was what I thought would solve it
[12:01] <gerald-volt> what are some good linux games?
[12:01] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: oh yeah and umask 0222 or 222
[12:01] <NeoSHODAN> umask=022?
[12:01] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: no
[12:02] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: 0222
[12:02] <gnomefreak> gerald-volt, what type of games?
[12:02] <NeoSHODAN> that goes under options?
[12:02] <mwe> NeoSHODAN: right
[12:02] <gerald-volt> anything that's free
[12:02] <NeoSHODAN> thank you
[12:02] <gnomefreak> there are a buntch of games in synaptic
[12:02] <I_Am_> anybody know how i would view my grub entries?
[12:02] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:02] <gerald-volt> shooting, racing that's multiplayer?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> !games
[12:03] <ubotu> somebody said games was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[12:03] <fredforfaen> !transparency
[12:03] <ubotu> fredforfaen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:04] <fredforfaen> i wanna use xcompmgr but i get No composite extension , even after i added composite "Enable" in org.con...what to do?
[12:04] <mwe> happypenguin.org should go to that list as well
[12:05] <renee_> can someone help me plz? i got a error with dhclient
[12:05] <I_Am_> thanks gnomefreak
[12:05] <mwe> oh and http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+games is a good place to look for linux games to btw
[12:05] <renee_> last time before reboot i had dhclient command and now it says that i dont have the command anymore
[12:05] <I_Am_> i wanna format my windows partition
[12:06] <mwe> I_Am_: format with what file system?
[12:06] <ompaul> renee_, run "sudo dhclient" if it is there it will run if not then lets install it
[12:06] <I_Am_> the ubuntu user guide says i can boot unbuntu from the disk and then alter grub after i boot from the startup list
[12:06] <I_Am_> ntfs
[12:06] <ompaul> !guide
[12:06] <ubotu> ompaul: Are you on ritalin?
[12:06] <I_Am_> but now i'm wondering if i should use fat 32
[12:06] <I_Am_> at least i can alter files if its fat 32
[12:06] <poseidon_linux_B> well, is anybody interested on a talk about hardware support for HP notebooks? may be a private talk to dont disturbe this room
[12:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell I_Am_ about recover
[12:07] <mwe> I_Am_: if you wanna write from linux, use fat32, yes
[12:07] <mwe> I_Am_: it wont handle files larger than 4GB though
[12:07] <ompaul> poseidon_linux_B, how #ubuntu-offtopic is there if anyone wants to talk about it
[12:07] <I_Am_> isn't ntfs better for windows though?
[12:07] <ZeroIRC> j00 lik3 i7 wh3r3?
[12:07] <mwe> I_Am_: yes _much_ better
[12:07] <madsen_> do I have to change folder permissions to be able to change icons on the panels?
[12:08] <I_Am_> hmmmm
[12:08] <I_Am_> what to do?
[12:08] <mwe> I_Am_: you can make a smaller shared fat32 partition
[12:08] <renee_> ompaul, im using root
[12:08] <renee_> ompaul, thats the problem :S
[12:08] <jhenn> is dapper okay to install?
[12:09] <ompaul> renee_, well sudo was developed not to have these issues
[12:09] <mwe> jhenn: if you don't mind a broken system it is
[12:09] <erUSUL> Tues13th
[12:09] <renee_> ompaul, but how i can turn it on again?
[12:09] <pashaw> jhenn,    if ytou can fix your own problems yes  if not  no
[12:09] <renee_> ompaul,  i dont have my superuser anymore
[12:09] <jhenn> thanks
[12:10] <ompaul> renee_, if you have the first user the sudo stuff is still there
[12:10] <sorush20> how do I restart xserver?
[12:10] <SuperHero> does anyone know why I can't find a package that I know exists?
[12:10] <renee_> ompaul,  i dont have it anymore :(
[12:10] <pashaw> sorush20,  ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:10] <I_Am_> i already have a shared drive that i left with fat32
[12:10] <SuperHero> I am trying to install phpbb
[12:10] <mwe> SuperHero: you don't have the repo enabled or you don't type the name correctly
[12:11] <SuperHero> repo?
[12:11] <ompaul> renee_, what else did you think was good to change?
[12:11] <I_Am_> so do i need to use the ubuntu live cd to get back into ubuntu after i reinstall windows
[12:11] <I_Am_> or can i use the ubuntu install cd
[12:11] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[12:11] <pashaw> renee_,   you just created your own distro  its not ubuntu anymore  :P
[12:12] <Mabus06> If I'm replacing the motherboard do I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[12:12] <mwe> SuperHero: yeah repository. you need universe enabled and the package is phpbb2
[12:12] <ompaul> pashaw, stop reading my script :)
[12:12] <SuperHero> yes
[12:12] <SuperHero> how do I enable that?
[12:12] <mwe> !tell SuperHero about universe
[12:12] <pashaw> ompaul,   lol     ive seen this story 4-5 times in 2 days    its amusing
[12:12] <mwe> !tell SuperHero about multiverse
[12:12] <SuperHero> wow
[12:13] <SuperHero> that really cuts down on the having to repeat a previous answer
[12:13] <SuperHero> I like it
[12:13] <Yawgmoth7> I am trying  to install Ubuntu on a external hard drive, and everything goes fine until I get to the part where it installs grub. It freezes and dosen't do anything. Has anybody had this problem before. Or maybe ahve a solution?
[12:13] <SealyDave> !tell SealyDav about universe
[12:13] <mwe> SuperHero: the source-o-matic is way easiest, I guess
[12:13] <ompaul> renee_, what I seriously suggest is that you reinstall it - back up anything that might be useful onto CD or loose it - then do things the way we suggest, guess what it works well :)
[12:13] <bambix> hello all
[12:14] <bambix> sorry to barge in like tis but i've got a problem-question
[12:14] <pashaw> Mabus06,   no unless  your using some exotic hardware   it should run well enough to fix it
[12:14] <Mabus06> pashaw, okay
[12:14] <SuperHero> problem
[12:14] <SuperHero> I'm not using X11R6
[12:14] <Ninja> hi there. Can anyone help in getting surround sound to work on creative 5.1 speakers
[12:14] <SuperHero> I just have the server version
[12:14] <mwe> SuperHero: and?
[12:14] <SuperHero> so
[12:14] <SuperHero> apt-get
[12:14] <pashaw> Mabus06,   x settings  matter if you change  video card
[12:14] <crimsun> Ninja: use -Dplug:surround51
[12:14] <SuperHero> is how I install packages
[12:14] <mwe> SuperHero: you still have /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get
[12:14] <crimsun> Ninja: then make sure you adjust the LFE, Center, Front, and Surround mixer elements
[12:15] <bambix> when i go to synaptics package manager and go for the repositories it doesn't have a settings button, do i need sudo=<
[12:15] <crimsun> Ninja: you might find the speaker-test utility (cli) helpful
[12:15] <pashaw> Mabus06,   backup  important files first
[12:15] <mwe> SuperHero: just edit sources.list and remove hashmarks as commented. then apt-get update and you should be good
[12:16] <Ninja> crimsun do i need to put that in the terminal as is says command not found
[12:16] <SealyDave> what is the better package install similar to automatrix?
[12:16] <crimsun> Ninja: no, you'd specify plug:surround51 as the device in any ALSA application
[12:16] <ompaul> easyubuntu
[12:17] <mwe> SealyDave: automatrix?
[12:17] <Yawgmoth7> Does anyone know why it freezes when it gets to the grub part of the installation?
[12:17] <SealyDave> automatix
[12:17] <mwe> !automatix
[12:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[12:17] <SuperHero> it still says
[12:17] <ompaul> SealyDave,  easyubuntu
[12:17] <Mabus06> msg pashaw I am changing video cards too
[12:17] <SuperHero> 'cannot find package phpbb2'
[12:17] <KenMasters> one question, driver for Creative PC CAM 350 whre download ?
[12:18] <pashaw> Mabus06,    then change xorg.conf  to vesa  driver
[12:18] <mwe> SuperHero: you need to sudo apt-get update first
[12:18] <LetterRip> Hi for Dapper Drake would it be possible to use Blender 2.40 instead of 2.37a?
[12:18] <Mabus06> pashaw, how?
[12:18] <SealyDave> !tell SealyDave easyubuntu
[12:18] <SuperHero> sry, I was a redhat user
[12:18] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, I suggest to people who end up in that position that they install "server" when the install starts then >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< on first boot
[12:18] <SuperHero> thanks
[12:18] <poningru> !tell SealyDave about easyubuntu
[12:18] <mwe> SuperHero: you're welcome
[12:19] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[12:19] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, tends to work for them
[12:19] <Ninja> well i exucuted the  -c6 -D plug:surround51 speaker test and my yoo back speakers arent working
[12:19] <fmasi> what is the port that webmin uses ?
[12:19] <crimsun> Ninja: so make sure you unmuted them using a mixer
[12:19] <nalioth> SealyDave: join #easyubuntu if you want more info
[12:19] <SealyDave> kew
[12:19] <SuperHero> its working
[12:19] <SuperHero> thanks, much
[12:19] <ompaul> greetings thoreauputic
[12:19] <mwe> SuperHero: you're welcome.
[12:20] <Fred> is there a shell command to do an MX lookup on a domain?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hello there :)
[12:20] <Ng> Fred: dig -t mx somedomain.com
[12:20] <mela1975> huhu
[12:21] <Fred> thanks Ng
[12:21] <mela1975> huhu
[12:21] <Yawgmoth7> ompaul: I might just not be understanding what your saying, but I'm not able to get to Ubuntu, since it just get's to the part of boot where it checks got bootable CD's then freezes. ANd I don't think there is a shell or anything to do that in whilst in the isntallation
[12:21] <mwe> mela1975: huh?
[12:21] <mela1975> :-)
[12:21] <mela1975> +491752088077
[12:22] <Ninja> crimsun: on my volume control i can find, surround, center and lfe
[12:23] <madsen_> when does the previous kernel version NOT show on multiple boot options?
[12:23] <crimsun> Ninja: then it'd be surround or rear
[12:23] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, correct your not understanding me, let me try again. Restart the install, when it pauses type >>server<< when that is done and the machine reboots login and run this command >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<<
[12:23] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, i.e, you start with a server install and build on that
[12:23] <Yawgmoth7> Oh
[12:24] <cafuego> Fred: host -t mx <domain> actually.
[12:24] <john> can someone please tell me what to do in terminal to automatically finish off a command line?
[12:24] <john> ...i forgot!
[12:24] <Yawgmoth7> Errr, where would I type that, since there really is nowhere to type that during the install, Terribly sorry I'm not getting it
[12:24] <Fred> cafuego, well both work :) thanks :)
[12:24] <thoreauputic> joh: use tab completion?
[12:24] <john> thats the one
[12:24] <john> cheers
[12:25] <Ninja> yeah i have surround, still only getting four speakers though
[12:25] <ompaul> john, that depends on the command so no simple answer - you might be thinking of tab for part of a command but it does not do the optiions and I see thoreauputic has beaten me to it but I have typed so much I will keep going :)
[12:25] <ryorininseven> Hey, anybody have any experience with installing VMWare 5.5?
[12:25] <mirak_> I am tryin to install eclipse-sdk on dapper but it complains that mozilla is broken. I had the same problem on breezy. I don't see why there is a dependance at all
[12:26] <cafuego> ompaul: With bash, come commends to have tab completion for options actually.
[12:26] <cafuego> s/c/s/
[12:26] <mwe> ryorininseven: yeah. I just ran the installation script with sudo
[12:26] <Ninja> only one speaker not working, would it be master ?
[12:26] <john> ompaul, thanks :)
[12:26] <ompaul> cafuego, which is not all :) but I did not know that, thanks
[12:26] <ryorininseven> mwe: So did I, but VMWare crashes a few seconds after starting now.
[12:26] <cafuego> ompaul: My favourite there is hostname completion :-)
[12:26] <ompaul> john, enjoy
[12:27] <ompaul> hmm
[12:27] <cafuego> ryorininseven: Did you upgrade your kernel?
[12:27] <mwe> ryorininseven: hm. I don't know why. I'd check the log files
[12:27] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Not yet, but I think I'll give that a shot.
[12:27] <TokenBad> ok I have mp3's I want to burn to a audio cd that will work in cd player...anyone tell me how to do this in ubuntu?
[12:27] <ryorininseven> mwe: Which log files should I be looking at?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> you can also set "programmable tab complete " in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc (global)  - useful eg with apt-cache and sudo
[12:27] <cafuego> ryorininseven: No, no... upgrading a kernel will mean you'll need to rebuild the vmware modules.
[12:28] <ryorininseven> Oh. Well, I haven't upgraded yet, so ...
[12:28] <mwe> ryorininseven: syslog and what not in /var/log. or look in /home/ryorininseven/vmware and subdirs if anything is there
[12:28] <ryorininseven> cafuego: I'm running 2.6.12-9-386.
[12:28] <ompaul> thoreauputic, hmm more notes being made I might call you  on that one
[12:28] <Yawgmoth7> Well, I guess I'll try to figure out what ompaul was saying, I'll see if I can get it to just install the base
[12:28] <benplaut> is it normal for camera drivers to take... 3-4 minutes to load?
[12:28] <mirak_> I am tryin to install eclipse-sdk on dapper but it complains that mozilla is broken. I had the same problem on breezy. I don't see why there is a dependance at all
[12:28] <mirak_> any idea about that ?
[12:29] <Yawgmoth7> Course, I stilll need it to boot somehow, which that means I would need grub
[12:29] <mirak_> the bug reports are not helping
[12:29] <cafuego> ryorininseven: I had nothing but trouble with vmware on any Ubuntu, just oopsed the kernel continuously.
[12:29] <maskd> gday, anybody else with dapper whose msn in gaim always crashes?
[12:29] <mirak_> there  is no solution to this problem
[12:29] <TokenBad> anyone?
[12:29] <ompaul> Yawgmoth7, that is what I said except as the boot starts it is called "server" read the screen a few seconds into the install
[12:29] <thoreauputic> ompaul: programmable completion for instance will complete package names with apt etc
[12:29] <mirak_> maskd: no prob here
[12:29] <maskd> mm
[12:29] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Ahhh. Well, nuts
[12:29] <thoreauputic> ompaul: nice feature...
[12:29] <Yawgmoth7> Ok
[12:29] <mwe> mirak_: I don't know. getting the tarball from eclipse.org works. that's what I did though
[12:29] <cafuego> ryorininseven: vmware player works fine, though.
[12:30] <bk> can someone tell me where to extract a tar file like firefox?
[12:30] <cafuego> bk: Still can't find #gentoo?
[12:30] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Ooh, ok. So then it just comes down to making a VM for use with it.
[12:30] <bk> i didn
[12:30] <bk> i did
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> bk,  you just downloaded the firefox 1.5 tar?
[12:30] <mirak_> mwe: you installed it in your $HOME ?
[12:30] <bk> i'm giving up on gentoo
[12:30] <thoreauputic> ompaul: you on skype atm ?
[12:30] <bk> i'm back to ubuntu
[12:30] <mwe> ryorininseven: vmware runs without trouble here, though
[12:30] <ompaul> not atm
[12:30] <cafuego> !firefox1.5
[12:30] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:30] <ryorininseven> mwe: What kernel are you running?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> ompaul: OK
[12:30] <ompaul> but give it a sec
[12:30] <mirak_> bk: gentoo is horrible
[12:30] <bk> but the latest version of ubuntu uses firefox 1.0.7
[12:30] <ryorininseven> mwe: And you're using Hoary or Breezy?
[12:30] <mwe> mirak_: no. only the guest os
[12:30] <Razor-X> mirak_: I like Gentoo quite a bit
[12:31] <cafuego> ryorininseven: They all run very happily in vnc on the Edubuntu server now :-)
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: no im confused
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: eclipse, right?
[12:31] <ompaul> there
[12:31] <mirak_> Razor-X: I like the ability to compile "on the fly" but it lacks a bit of humanity
[12:31] <bk> so i want to install the latest firefox
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Gentoo is nice in ways. Bad in others.. same with ubuntu. Lol.
[12:31] <cafuego> !rule 1
[12:31] <mirak_> mwe: eclipse
[12:31] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: too many simutanious chats :)
[12:31] <bk> i'm giving up on gentoo for right now
[12:31] <mwe> mirak_: I installed it in /opt
[12:31] <ryorininseven> cafuego: Haha, nice
[12:31] <mirak_> mwe: ok
[12:31] <I_Am_> okies i'm viewing a wiki page about recovering ubuntu after installing windows
[12:31] <cafuego> bk: See rule 1.
[12:31] <bk> so where should i extract firefox?
[12:32] <Razor-X> mirak_: yeah, it has it's disadvantages
[12:32] <yatesy> bk: whereever you like
[12:32] <I_Am_> it talks about a seperate boot partition
[12:32] <I_Am_> how do i find out if i have one
[12:32] <bk> how about /usr/sbin?
[12:32] <sorush20> my open Gl acceleration isn't working eventhough I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix?highlight=%28ATI%29 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29. I have ati radeon 9250
[12:32] <cafuego> bk: And also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion. I didn't make ubotu post that for no reason.
[12:32] <ryorininseven> mwe: And I've got no mention of any vmware errors in any of the log files, so that's a little distressing.
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> I really dont see whats so impiorntant about fuirefox 1.5 actually.
[12:32] <cafuego> bk: NO. Read the url.
[12:32] <yatesy> bk: sbin is used for superuser processes only
[12:32] <mirak_> Razor-X: at least I tried it :)
[12:32] <I_Am_> when i viewed the grub info it did not say anything about a boot partition
[12:32] <sorush20> when I run glxgears they run fine for a few seconds then it slows really down.
[12:32] <bk> alright, cafuego. i'll read it.
[12:32] <mwe> ryorininseven: auw. that's bad
[12:32] <bk> cafuego, are u a developer?
[12:32] <cafuego> Dr_Willis: It's 0.43 better then version 1.0.7
[12:33] <mirak_> Razor-X: on a powermac G3 400mhz and G4 350 ...
[12:33] <cafuego> bk: No, just sensible.
[12:33] <mwe> ryorininseven: and the modules are loading ok?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> cafuego,  guess so. :P
[12:33] <rabbit> I get an error when using mail-notification that "login failed"  with gmail, anyone know what to do?
[12:33] <bk> lol
[12:33] <mwe> ryorininseven: dmesg says nothing either?
[12:33] <ompaul> cafuego, read the page - then you will see what it is that is needed
[12:33] <MiniLinux> hello
[12:33] <ryorininseven> mwe: Seems that way, yeah.
[12:33] <MiniLinux> i have problem for see video
[12:33] <MiniLinux> i have installed all all all
[12:33] <ryorininseven> mwe: Dmesg has nothing but stuff about setting keycodes, but I've been getting that for a while now.
[12:33] <ompaul> doh!
[12:33] <ompaul> cafuego, double doh
[12:33] <mwe> ryorininseven: then I can't help you, sorry
[12:33] <MiniLinux> the all video tutorial explain
[12:33] <MiniLinux> w32codecs is installed
[12:33] <cafuego> hh
[12:33] <ryorininseven> mwe: No problem. Thanks anyway.
[12:33] <MiniLinux> gstreamer is installed
[12:33] <MiniLinux> xine is installed
[12:34] <MiniLinux> mplayer is installed
[12:34] <ompaul> thoreauputic, there now
[12:34] <MiniLinux> 3000 library is installed
[12:34] <mwe> ryorininseven: unkown scancodes in dmesg? shouldn't influence right
[12:34] <MiniLinux> and the video show BLUE image
[12:34] <ryorininseven> mwe: Right.
[12:34] <Razor-X> rabbit: what mail client are you using?
[12:34] <ryorininseven> mwe: Far as I can tell, they're basically harmless gripes -- maybe tied to Windowmaker, I dunno.
[12:34] <rabbit> mail-notification
[12:35] <rabbit> Razor-X: mail-notification
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ?
[12:35] <hd420> wtf is up with breezy?
[12:35] <ompaul> yak yak
[12:35] <ryorininseven> mwe: Anyways, I need to get moving. Thanks again for the help.
[12:35] <Razor-X> rabbit: ... that's not an MUA -_-
[12:35] <ompaul> hd420, nothing
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ompaul: you aren't showing online yet
[12:35] <ryorininseven> cafuego: And thank you for the help as well. :)
[12:35] <rabbit> Razor-X: MUA?
[12:35] <Razor-X> rabbit: what do you use to retrieve mail?
[12:36] <Razor-X> *retreive
[12:36] <ompaul> thoreauputic, had been for a while restarting
[12:36] <hd420> ompaul: why is apt giving me "error 1" when trying to install apache?
[12:36] <mwe> rabbit: mua = mail user agent. *nix lingo
[12:36] <rabbit> Razor-X:  I have a gmail account, I was looking for something like gmail notifier (in windows)  and someone suggested mail-notification..  but it fails to login
[12:36] <ompaul> hd420, paste the stuff your doing and getting in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:36] <I_Am_> help
[12:37] <sorush20> which should I use xfree86 or xorg?
[12:37] <I_Am_> i'm terribly stuck
[12:37] <Razor-X> rabbit: MUA == Mail User Agent, Mail Client basicall, MTA == Mail Transfer Agent or Mail server
[12:37] <visik7> why there is a reference to fedora in ubuntu wiki ???? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/QemuEmulator ???
[12:37] <Razor-X> rabbit: oh.... I've heard very little about it, what exactly did gmail notifier do?
[12:37] <I_Am_> anybody ever restored their grub menu after reinstalling windows
[12:37] <MiniLinux> someone know a page that contain the COMPLETE PROCEDURE for install all necessary for see MPG and MPEG video???
[12:37] <cmatheson> !tell I_Am_ about anyone
[12:37] <I_Am_> i've read the turtorial how to and i have some questions
[12:37] <rabbit> Razor-X:   pops up a little messsage when you get emails..   you can also right click on the sys tray icon and go to your inbox (launches in browser)
[12:37] <MiniLinux> http://help.ubuntu-it.org/guidabreezy/ch03.html#codecs
[12:38] <I_Am_> thanks cmatheson
[12:38] <ilba7r> I_AM shoot
[12:38] <MiniLinux> I have installed all of that pakages
[12:38] <Razor-X> rabbit: there's actually something called ``gmail-notify'' in the repos, as I see it :)
[12:38] <I_Am_> i've reviewed my fstab
[12:38] <Razor-X> rabbit: but your problem with mail-notification probably deals with TLS/SSL, because gmail uses nonstandard ports and stuff
[12:38] <rabbit> Razor-X: yeah but that only handles gmail and mail-notification handles POP and IMAP and stuff too
[12:38] <I_Am_> and the howto refers to /boot in the fstab
[12:38] <greenpenguin13> gmail-manager firefox extension
[12:38] <bk> cafuego, that link u told me about; i can't access it without downloading and installing a personal security manager.  where do i get that?
[12:39] <I_Am_> but my fstab doesn't contain anything refering to a /boot and a hard drive
[12:39] <Razor-X> has anyone noticed that Firefox is becoming a lot like emacs? :)
[12:39] <rabbit> Razor-X: the help for this says it has SSL/TLS support
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> i think there is a gdesklet set that does that
[12:39] <Kyral> Nothin' wrong with Emacs :D
[12:39] <nekostar> how hard is it to get ubuntu to work on a laptop?
[12:39] <Razor-X> rabbit: what port do you use?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Razor-X,  wee need an emacs extension for firefox!
[12:39] <ilba7r> I-Am this is special if you have a boot partition most probably yours is on the MBR
[12:39] <Razor-X> Kyral: exactly, but many would kill me for saying that
[12:39] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: :P
[12:39] <rabbit> Razor-X: I have no idea
[12:39] <hd420> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6282
[12:39] <bk> nekostar, it's easy. i got it going now.
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> and a firefox extension for emacs
[12:39] <nekostar> a dell insperion 4000 to be exact
[12:39] <I_Am_> i have windows and ubuntu on the same hard drive if that makes any difference
[12:39] <greenpenguin13> recursive!
[12:39] <Razor-X> rabbit: what steps did you use to configure mail-notification?
[12:40] <nekostar> its only a celeron 600MHz 128MB ram
[12:40] <rabbit> Razor-X: I just put in my account info in the preferences for it
[12:40] <nekostar> 5 gig hdd :/
[12:40] <hd420> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6282
[12:40] <Razor-X> rabbit: does it let you specify SMTP/POP servers and the port numbers?
[12:40] <nekostar> but i was thinking of using it as a portable media player frankly hehe
[12:40] <albacker> guys i compiled kernel and got this when booting : Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[12:40] <bk> forget it cafuego, i was using mozilla. i tried the link on firefox and it works.  thanks
[12:40] <I_Am_> so after reinsalling windows.... its the mbr that needs to be modified
[12:41] <ilba7r> I_Am some people like to have a seperate partition for boot. If you used the standard ubuntu install you will not have this partition
[12:41] <I_Am_> awesome
[12:41] <ilba7r> I_Am you need to reinstall grub right
[12:41] <I_Am_> well i havent actually reinstalled windows yet
[12:41] <MiniLinux> I installed:
[12:41] <MiniLinux> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-lame, sox, ffmpegm,
[12:41] <MiniLinux> gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-mad, vorbis-tools, lame, faad, , mjpegtools, totem-xine
[12:41] <I_Am_> i'm just getting prepared
[12:41] <tod_kon> Me sound stopped working all the sudden... and there is no alsaconf on this humble distro -_-
[12:41] <rabbit> Razor-X:  for pop accounts, yes..   but there's a special 'gmail' one, I used that
[12:41] <sorush20> I get an error in   /var/log/Xorg.0.log that unable to aquire agp any help on fixing this?
[12:41] <tod_kon> Can someone please help me out?
[12:41] <MiniLinux> and w32codecs, and i runned gst-register-0.8
[12:41] <[cro] smiley> how to eject CD by pressing eject button?
[12:41] <Razor-X> rabbit: ah
[12:41] <HurricaneJ> i have a windows xp computer where i have all my music and pictures how can i log in to the network using ubuntu so that i can access those files?
[12:42] <Razor-X> rabbit: does it show you the servers of the special ``gmail'' setting?
[12:42] <MiniLinux> bat i dont see the video
[12:42] <I_Am_> so yes ilba7r i believe i just need to get the grub menu back after reinstalling windows
[12:42] <sethk> HurricaneJ, samba is for that purpose
[12:42] <MiniLinux> HELP
[12:42] <greenpenguin13> or ifolder ?
[12:42] <[cro] smiley> how to eject CD by pressing eject button?
[12:42] <rabbit> Razor-X:  I don't see any server stuff
[12:42] <sethk> HurricaneJ, access windows shares from linux, or making linux stuff look like a windows share, you use samba
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> [cro] smiley,  its proberly been automounted - you must unmount it first. then hit the button
[12:42] <HurricaneJ> can i get samba off sypnatic?
[12:42] <Razor-X> rabbit: how would you configure it for a non-gmail account?
[12:42] <bwb> anyone have a logitech wireless keyboard of some sort? (Just wanted to ask if it is normal for it to be alittly laggy)
[12:42] <nekostar> i know dells have problem on some distros so i was wondering about ubuntu :)
[12:42] <sethk> [cro] smiley, or use the eject command (also after you umount it)
[12:42] <rabbit> Razor-X:  it's got different fields for those
[12:43] <sethk> nekostar, I have it on two dells, without major problems.
[12:43] <Razor-X> rabbit: can you show me a screenshot?
[12:43] <nekostar> ok
[12:43] <[cro] smiley> Dr_Willis, can i unmount from console and how?
[12:43] <sethk> nekostar, but I don't trust dells all that much
[12:43] <nekostar> its also not connected to the inet so its a fully offline install....
[12:43] <cafuego> bugger
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> [cro] smiley,  yes.. with the umount command.
[12:43] <I_Am_> ilba7r, have you used the method described in wiki?
[12:43] <lleberg> Will a installation with the install cd give me the choice of formating my disc?
[12:43] <[cro] smiley> Dr_Willis, thx
[12:43] <visik7> lleberg: yes
[12:43] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: did you try going to places->network servers?
[12:43] <nekostar> how small a swap can i use for 128MB ram.. say 256MB ?
[12:43] <lleberg> i had a kernel panic wafter updating to breezy :P
[12:44] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: umount /media/cdrom1
[12:44] <sorush20> or umount -a
[12:44] <lleberg> visik7: Is there any way of not formating and still getting it to work?
[12:44] <sorush20> or umount -l
[12:44] <rabbit> Razor-X: just a sec
[12:44] <sorush20> you might need to use sudo for those
[12:44] <Razor-X> rabbit: mmmkay
[12:44] <lleberg> visik7: to not loose the things i have on it
[12:44] <nekostar> and how small an install can i do with server install + openbox + totem-xine + codecs
[12:44] <cafuego> nekostar: If you don't run X, you can even have no swap whatsoever.
[12:44] <mcscruff> when you do an apt-key add where does it put the key?
[12:44] <lleberg> nothing important though, maybe i should format it anyway
[12:44] <visik7> lleberg: bab
[12:44] <nekostar> cafuego, its for watching anime on the go basically :P:
[12:44] <visik7> lleberg: backup it
[12:45] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, thanx now it works
[12:45] <qwerty> would a BCM V.92 56K Voice Modem work on linux
[12:45] <Razor-X> qwerty: google my friend :)
[12:45] <qwerty> (ubuntu linux)
[12:45] <cafuego> nekostar: 128Mb swap *minimum* but 256 is probably a better bet.
[12:45] <lleberg> visik7: Is that also an alternative on the installation? Because i have no other computer or disc to put it on :)
[12:45] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: what were you running k3b?
[12:45] <lleberg> it's an sata disc and this computer ses IDE only :P
[12:45] <Red-Sox> how do you find out how much ram you have?
[12:45] <Red-Sox> from the command line?
[12:46] <cafuego> Red-Sox: 'free'
[12:46] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, sorry i'm newbie please explain
[12:46] <nekostar> ok i can do that :)
[12:46] <cafuego> Red-Sox: The first number you see is the amount of ram in kb.
[12:46] <ompaul> hd420, I had a look at your paste, what version of ubutu are you running?
[12:46] <Red-Sox> cafuego: what about all the hardware specs?
[12:46] <cafuego> 1554492
[12:46] <WorstPhobia> What's a good Linux backup program?
[12:46] <Hikaru79> Is it safe to add partitions to the hard drive that I'm currently using using gparted, as long as I'm not resizing or modifying in any way, the partitions I currently have mounted? (i.e, I'm creating new partitions out of free unallocated space)
[12:46] <cafuego> Red-Sox: cat /proc/cpuinfo; lspci; dmesg | less
[12:46] <sorush20> Red-Sox: were you running a program and the drive became busy and you were unable to eject.. is that what happened..
[12:46] <hd420> ompaul: breezy
[12:47] <lleberg> I'll make some tea and then i'll get on with my installation :)
[12:47] <john> i am installing cedega on an gf6600 gfx card pc and open gl and 3d fails, do I need to install some drivers? If so how? please someone :)
[12:47] <thoreauputic> WorstPhobia: unison isn't bad
[12:47] <sorush20> WorstPhobia: there are meny.. I still haven't found one good enough yet.. what are you backing up to?
[12:47] <ompaul> hd420, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list now - I figure your doing something in that space
[12:47] <cafuego> john: You need to install and use the non-free nvidia drivers. 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'
[12:48] <WorstPhobia> Thanks, thoreauputic.
[12:48] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: were you running a program and the drive became busy and you were unable to eject.. is that what happened..
[12:48] <WorstPhobia> sorush20, I'm using VMWare. I would back up my Linux stuff to my Windows host.
[12:48] <WorstPhobia> Then burn it from there.
[12:48] <tod_kon> BLADE RUNNER KILLED MY AUDIO!
[12:48] <y_o_u> hello everyone. trying to install a belkin wirless pci card using the ubuntu wiki as a guide. i am useing the recommended drivers, but it is telling me invalid driver. any ideas?
[12:49] <HurricaneJ> does samba have a user interface or is everything done thourhg the terminal?
[12:49] <Sturgeon> Blame the robots
[12:49] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, no i can only eject with right click, and cdrom button works only when unmount it
[12:49] <I_Am_> how do i view the mbr?
[12:49] <rabbit> Razor-X:  ??
[12:49] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: did you try what i said?
[12:49] <sorush20> WorstPhobia: a little more complicated that I expected.. you can use mondo, or you could use dar.. and if your using kde use kdar
[12:49] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: places ---> network servers
[12:49] <cafuego> I_Am_: dd if=/dev/hda of=- bs=512 count=1 | less
[12:49] <WorstPhobia> Okay.
[12:49] <WorstPhobia> I'm be right back.
[12:49] <WorstPhobia> Reinstalling VMWare.
[12:49] <[cro] smiley> sorush20, can i make to unmount it when i press the button and then to eject?
[12:49] <cafuego> I_Am_: Mind you, that's fully useless.
[12:50] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: I'm sure you can get the desktop environment you are using to stop auto mounting..
[12:50] <hd420> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6283
[12:50] <HurricaneJ> im trying i googled the samba info i did a sudo but when i try to key in my password it wont let me
[12:50] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: i mean in the desktop
[12:50] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: you have a "places" menu, right?
[12:50] <Sturgeon> next to "applications"
[12:50] <MiniLinux> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ci6PEO39.html
[12:50] <MiniLinux> uff
[12:50] <HurricaneJ> oyeah i see it
[12:50] <MiniLinux> that is the output
[12:50] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: go to "network servers" in that menu
[12:51] <rabbit> Razor-X:  not much to see
[12:51] <Sturgeon> and see if it shows "microsoft network" or something
[12:51] <MiniLinux> i'm tring to see a pornovideo bat ......
[12:51] <HurricaneJ> i see windows network
[12:51] <mirak_> [cro] smiley: you can enter "eject" in console
[12:51] <Sturgeon> then go inside
[12:51] <Sturgeon> you're already connected
[12:51] <Sturgeon> you don't need samba
[12:51] <HurricaneJ> ohh man thanks alot
[12:51] <sorush20> MiniLinux: don't watch porn.. http://xxxchurch.com/
[12:51] <HurricaneJ> wooooooo hoooooo
[12:51] <mirak_> [cro] smiley: "eject -t"  to  have the caret returning inside
[12:52] <sethk> sorush20, you attend an x rated church?
[12:52] <sorush20> sethk: just follow the link
[12:52] <HurricaneJ> any mp3 for ubuntu like itunes to handle all my mp3 collection?
[12:52] <hd420> HurricaneJ: xmms, mpg123
[12:52] <cmatheson> HurricaneJ: rythmbox, amarok, etc.
[12:52] <hd420> to name two
[12:52] <Trackilizer> Amarok is awsome
[12:52] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: what environment you using?
[12:53] <sethk> sorush20, I don't feel energetic enough to log into my firewall and disable X site blocking
[12:53] <HurricaneJ> sorush im sorry what do you mean? im a newbie-gnome
[12:53] <HurricaneJ> ubuntu
[12:53] <ompaul> hd420, http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:53] <thoreauputic> !tell hd420 about sources
[12:54] <sorush20> sethk: its about giving up porn.. and also just remember most of the so called stars in porn end up dead or close to dead.. and by watching you are kind of contributing to their death..
[12:54] <ompaul> hd420, your sources are strange there were no line endings in there
[12:54] <thoreauputic> hd420: that list is weird
[12:54] <Epix> nalioth: hello, i was here as Eroick before (aparently im still using my old name on this computer) and I was talking to you about gparted. Well, gparted wont work! I resize and then it just goes back to the original size. It also gives an error about a busy device and says I should reboot, but I have rebooted and there is NO change! Help!
[12:54] <Hikaru79> sorush20 ... what!?
[12:54] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: linux is great you can get it to wear kde or gnome or what every you like..
[12:54] <[cro] smiley> mirak, thx
[12:54] <hd420> well, it was pasted in from Terminal.app
[12:54] <HurricaneJ> cool
[12:54] <nalioth> Epix: use a liveCD
[12:54] <ompaul> hd420, when done - do this >>sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade<< then do this
[12:55] <Epix> nalioth: yep, I am.
[12:55] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: kde is close to windows interms of being easier..
[12:55] <thoreauputic> hd420: terminal.app ? This isn't mac ??
[12:55] <sethk> sorush20, I agree with that.
[12:55] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: use a kde live cd..
[12:55] <nalioth> Epix: install qtparted on your live session
[12:55] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: rythmbox
[12:55] <ompaul> hd420, very strange output
[12:55] <sorush20> sethk: only realized this a few months ago..
[12:55] <I_Am_> if i was to try and recover grub manually after a windows reinstall, how do i tell which hard drive and partitions to use
[12:55] <hd420> I'm on a Mac, my server is Ubuntu, thoreauputic
[12:55] <HurricaneJ> i have ubuntu already installed and configured kde is diffrent isnt it?
[12:56] <I_Am_> i tried to view the /sbin/grub file and i couldn't
[12:56] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: yes
[12:56] <thoreauputic> hd420: OK i see - you are ssh ed in I suppose ?
[12:56] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: but you have good apps for gnome
[12:56] <hd420> thoreauputic: precisely
[12:56] <Sturgeon> HurricaneJ: go to applications->audio and video and see if you have rythmbox
[12:56] <hd420> the server is 39 miles up the freeway at home
[12:56] <bk> what does this mean, " If you are using scim-1.0.2 as your input method platform, firefox will crash on startup."
[12:56] <jeremywhiting> hi all, what's the best way to try kde in ubuntu? apt-get install kde and cross my fingers? reinstall from scratch with kubuntu?
[12:56] <Hikaru79> bk, scim is a thing for inputting asian text.
[12:56] <ompaul> hd420, that is not an issue :)
[12:56] <HurricaneJ> ubuntu can use gnome and kde right? ok i see rythmbox
[12:57] <Epix> nalioth: how? I cant get online, needs ndiswrapper
[12:57] <Hikaru79> If youd on't know what it is, you're not using it :P
[12:57] <sorush20> I_Am_: kde is just a jacket for linux and the jacket is called Kubuntu.. hence anything that is done in the kde desktop environment starts with a k or has a k in there somewhere..
[12:57] <HurricaneJ> im going to google for skins
[12:57] <bk> alright, thanks hikaru79
[12:57] <thoreauputic> hd420: well, I suggest you get a new sources list and update
[12:57] <wza> !sources
[12:57] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:57] <hd420> ompaul: I should hope not
[12:57] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you can have more than one desktop environment with ubuntu.. and you can choose at login time which one you like
[12:57] <I_Am_> sorry i didn't ask about kde or kubuntu
[12:57] <thoreauputic> hd420: any reason you don't want apache2 ?
[12:58] <HurricaneJ> does rythimbox have a pulg in for ipod support or i have to look somewhere else for ipod functionality?
[12:58] <HurricaneJ> sorush ohh i did not know that
[12:58] <ompaul> hd420, apache 1.3. will be dead after the new version of apache comes out
[12:58] <junixonline> jeremywhiting: both are safe
[12:58] <sorush20> I_Am_: do you have a very good idea of what your partition structure was before you messed it up?
[12:58] <jeremywhiting> ok, thanks junixonline
[12:58] <hd420> I'm used to 1.3
[12:58] <Seveas> HurricaneJ, gtkpod, banshee...
[12:58] <hd420> umm... 2.2 is out and 1.3 is still maintained
[12:58] <ompaul> hd420, well it is about to be unsupported if it is not unsupported already
[12:59] <cmatheson> ompaul: no, 1.3 and 2.2 are still cool
[12:59] <ompaul> hd420, I know a core dev for that and support is going down the tubes with the next version at least in his books
[12:59] <hd420> ompaul: it better be supported... most of the companies using Apache (Yahoo, etc.) are still running 1.3
[12:59] <mwe> hd420: there are a lot of apache1 servers around
[12:59] <HurricaneJ> i know i have been asking alot of questions i am loving ubuntu i appreciate all the assitance i been recieving
[12:59] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: remember you can press the tab if you want the irc client your using to guess my name you don't have to type all my name.. its called tab compelet
[12:59] <thoreauputic> start an apache war!
[01:00] <hd420> mwe: I'm not the one claiming apache1.3 is dead, mate
[01:00] <[cro] smiley> is there a way to unmount a cdrom when i press a eject button?
[01:00] <hd420> thoreauputic: if it's good enough for Yahoo and Google, it's good enough for me
[01:00] <mwe> hd420: I just realized after your last sentence
[01:00] <I_Am_> sorush
[01:00] <thoreauputic> hd420: I was kidding
[01:00] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:00] <I_Am_> i haven't messed them yet
[01:00] <I_Am_> i have yet to install windows
[01:00] <I_Am_> i am trying to get everything figured out in advance
[01:01] <mojo_> Is there anyone here good at casting the chicken bones that make Samba work?  I have a working Samba under Dapper F2 AMD64 but I cannot FOR THE LIFE OF ME get it working under Breezy i386 on the same machine.  Any takers?  I have tried copying the smb.conf without luck.  THANKS!
[01:01] <HurricaneJ> sorush what do you recommend for a wireless network manager like windows to see what networks are in my range?
[01:01] <crimsun> HurricaneJ: wifi-radar
[01:01] <I_Am_> sorush20, you still there?
[01:01] <ompaul> anyway first up hd420 you appear to have other issues that should be sorted there first - do this before we go any further >> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade<<
[01:01] <hd420> ompaul: in progress, mate
[01:01] <HurricaneJ> crim can i find that in synoptic?
[01:02] <HurricaneJ> synaptic**
[01:02] <I_Am_> i have saved a copy of my fstab file and emailed it to myself
[01:02] <sorush20> the command iwconfig will help alot..
[01:02] <I_Am_> that should help no?
[01:02] <[cro] smiley> Merry Chrismas all
[01:02] <karl_> could anyone help me with FTP service?  I have tried both PURE and WU, and cannot connect via FTP to localhost
[01:03] <Seveas> [cro] smiley, christmas was 2 days ago...
[01:03] <sorush20> [cro] smiley: marry Happy Jesus Birth day to you to..
[01:03] <fmasi> ei enny one uses skype fine whith ubuntu ?
[01:03] <Seveas> !seen treenaks
[01:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'treenaks', Seveas
[01:03] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: are you using gnome.. ?
[01:03] <HurricaneJ> what is the default destination for music,videos and pictures?
[01:03] <HurricaneJ> rush yes i am ubuntu
[01:03] <Seveas> HurricaneJ, your homedir
[01:03] <Sturgeon> does anyone know a text-mode music player which allows to create playlists and is available for ubuntu? I know orpheus but i can't find it for breezy
[01:03] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: there isn't one you can make one up your self and choose one of the nicest icons out there to make it your own..
[01:03] <Seveas> !info orpheus
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> GUYS
[01:04] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, ?
[01:04] <HurricaneJ> so i have to create the folders myself is not like windows folders are already set
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> big big big news
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Sturgeon: mp3blaster, cplay
[01:04] <Seveas> well, tell us :)
[01:04] <[cro] smiley> Merry Christmas 2 day ago all
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> i finally got my first SATA harddrive for Christmas
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> so now i have a third disk to play with
[01:04] <Seveas> haha
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> where do i download dapper?
[01:04] <karl_> could anyone help me with FTP service?  I have tried both PURE and WU, and cannot connect via FTP to localhost
[01:04] <maskd> once you got sata you dont turn back
[01:04] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: there really is no right or wrong.. you can set the default folder to a differen hard drive or anywhere you like windows is just for people who have no other ambitions with regards to their computer use..
[01:05] <shadeofgrey> i can finally use dapper without worrying that ill fuck something
[01:05] <crimsun> shadeofgrey: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html
[01:05] <sorush20> shadeofgrey: hi..
[01:05] <mojo_> shadeofgrey: you use bittorrent?  dapper is on www.thepiratebay.org listings (flight 2)
[01:05] <sorush20> shadeofgrey: language
[01:05] <sdfdsfdsfads> join #dsf
[01:05] <ompaul> hd420, we had a presentation from an dev at the linux.ie agm and what he said was 2.3 may be called 3 but 1.x support finishes then
[01:05] <sdfdsfdsfads> join #f
[01:05] <hd420> ompaul: still getting that error
[01:06] <sorush20> sdfdsfdsfads: you forgot the "/"
[01:06] <ompaul> !ops
[01:06] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[01:06] <ompaul> ah
[01:06] <mojo_> shadeofgrey: and I am still seeding (among others)
[01:06] <fmasi> enny one could help me make my skype whork fine
[01:06] <ompaul> My Mistake
[01:06] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you can use kwifi ..
[01:06] <HurricaneJ> yeah i got tired of windows
[01:06] <thoreauputic> ompaul: calm down - all is well ;)
[01:06] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you using gnome?
[01:06] <sethk> fmasi, my skype works.  What problem are you having?
[01:06] <ompaul> hehe
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> sorush20:  what do you mean "language"? isnt it obvious i speak english?
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> yeas i am ubuntu gnome 2.12
[01:07] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[01:07] <ompaul> apokryphos, its okay
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> mojo_:  speak with me in private for a min?
[01:07] <sorush20> shadeofgrey: do swearing
[01:07] <hd420> ompaul: You must have heard incorrectly, mate, Apple, Yahoo, Google, etc. will NOT be upgrading Apache anytime soon, it doesn't matter anyway
[01:07] <mojo_> shadeofgrey: sure
[01:07] <apokryphos> shadeofgrey: language, as in -- don't be profane
[01:07] <apokryphos> that's pretty obvious
[01:07] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you like the colours..
[01:07] <hd420> using 2.0 is not an option for me
[01:07] <ompaul> hd420, they can maintain it themselves
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> the brown is nice
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> i found away to change themes
[01:07] <HurricaneJ> gnome art is what im using
[01:08] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you still not using tab compelete..
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> i want a bootloader but i dont think ubuntu have one
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> sorush what is that?
[01:08] <sorush20> type sor then tab and that is my name..
[01:08] <rabbit> when you install something with synaptic, it puts it 'sompelace' in the menus...   how do I know where?  what if I can't find it?
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> im a 1 day old veteran to linux
[01:08] <Epix> nalioth: where can i snag qtparted from?
[01:08] <sorush20> HurricaneJ:
[01:08] <HurricaneJ> yes
[01:09] <apokryphos> Epix: the repos
[01:09] <nalioth> Epix: enable universe and get it with apt-get or synaptic
[01:09] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: type a few letters of my name and then press tab to compelete the rest of my name
[01:09] <karl_> rabbit: if you watch what is happening from synaptic - if it puts the item into a menu, it will tell you where - usually apps/accessories or apps/applications
[01:09] <superchode|fu> finally got ubuntu running on my EPIA board - threw in a voodoo3 PCI video card and i got kicked to a no GUI mode. any help on what to do to get GUI on the voodoo3?
[01:09] <HurricaneJ> sorush20, ok cool
[01:09] <bungle> how do I instal  *.deb file
[01:09] <HurricaneJ> i did it
[01:09] <apokryphos> !deb
[01:09] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:09] <bshumate> rabbit: not all items installed with synaptic make it to that special someplace of the menus... ;-)
[01:09] <john> does anyone know how i can play a dvd in ubuntu
[01:09] <bungle> tah
[01:09] <cimon> I still think ubuntu rocks... Linux window managers will eat each other though...
[01:10] <Tedd|> Can someobyd help me?  Um, Im on ubuntu live atm.
[01:11] <fraggsta> here's another problem; how the hell do I switch VTs on a Mac running Linux?
[01:11] <lleberg> Copying remaining packages to disc.. i think this went smoothly :P
[01:11] <sorush20> Epix: I'm not sure if you can install anything on there.
[01:11] <Necrosan> Okay
[01:11] <HymnToLife> could anyone tell me how to disable a process starting on bootup ?
[01:11] <Necrosan> It's official
[01:11] <nalioth> Epix: enable universe and get it with your fave pkg manager
[01:11] <Necrosan> PCI Radeon 9250's
[01:11] <bshumate> rabbit: yes you can add a custom application to the menus after locating it using for example, the find and locate commands from the terminal, or searching for it in the file browser.
[01:11] <Tedd|> nalioth: DIdn't know you were replying. I wrote it before I saw it.
[01:11] <Necrosan> DO NOT work with fglrx
[01:11] <fraggsta> I've tried apple+alt+F2, apple+option+F2, etc..
[01:11] <Necrosan> if someone would like to send that to ati
[01:11] <nalioth> sorush20: you can install anyhing you like on the live session
[01:11] <Epix> nalioth: no internet. needs ndiswrapper for wireless
[01:11] <cafuego> fraggsta: alt-F1 through alt-F6, just as per normal.
[01:11] <sorush20> Necrosan: thanks
[01:12] <hd420> doesn't seem to matter, I still get 3 bytes of package updates
[01:12] <nalioth> Epix: Epix then you are out of luck, since at the least you'll need ntfsprogs (preferably qtparted)
[01:12] <rabbit> has anyone here used   " mail-notification "  ??
[01:12] <fraggsta> cafuego: just seems to print a bunch of escape codes then do nothing
[01:12] <Comrade_Vladimir> hi there again!
[01:12] <Tedd|> So, does anybody know of a good FTP client other than gFTP?
[01:12] <nalioth> Tedd|: visit packages.ubuntu.com
[01:12] <cafuego> Tedd|: lftp
[01:13] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: you can do ftp with nautilus (connect to server)
[01:13] <pashaw> Tedd|,    apt-cache search ftp      pick one
[01:13] <rabbit> Tedd|:  is there something wrong with gFTP ?
[01:13] <benplaut> whoa!
[01:13] <Epix> nalioth: crap. how else can I resize? Knoppix has qtparted?
[01:13] <benplaut> Tedd|: you're popular :)
[01:13] <Tedd|> I know :P
[01:13] <sorush20> Necrosan: where did you find that out?
[01:13] <Tedd|> rabbit: It's no FileZilla ;)
[01:13] <HurricaneJ> i just downloaded wifi-radar.gz how do i install it?
[01:14] <HurricaneJ> double clicking it i assume?
[01:14] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: no
[01:14] <john> anyone else get nothing but trouble with cedega time demo?
[01:14] <HurricaneJ> what are the ste?ps needed to accomplish the installation
[01:14] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: rm wifi-radar.gz; sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[01:14] <benplaut> Tedd|: try kasablanca
[01:14] <HurricaneJ> cool
[01:14] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: in every package you download .. there is a readme.. the .gz is just a fompression format..
[01:14] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: You don't need to download tarballs.
[01:14] <ompaul> hd420, it failed on me - then I included for some unknown reason postfix and it worked
[01:14] <benplaut> Tedd|: ftpcube
[01:14] <Tedd|> benplaut: Thanks, I will
[01:14] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php
[01:14] <john> it was installed but fails the 3d tests, then ubuntu crashed because of something else. Now cedega will not open at all
[01:15] <Necrosan> sorush20: Trying to make one work
[01:15] <ompaul> hd420, this box is _not_ a server
[01:15] <Necrosan> It's a joke
[01:15] <HurricaneJ> so everything is through a sodu?
[01:15] <john> ...after I click start in the cedega splash screen nothing happens
[01:15] <rabbit> has anyone here used   " mail-notification "  ??
[01:15] <Necrosan> There's no chance whatsoever, the fglrx drivers dont even have PCI support in them
[01:15] <nalioth> Epix: you can try knoppix, i'm not sure if it has qtparted or not
[01:15] <hd420> ompaul: so?
[01:15] <nalioth> Epix: qtparted calls ntfsprogs btw
[01:15] <pl_ice> hey
[01:15] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: yes.. sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[01:15] <ompaul> thats all
[01:15] <cafuego> And I note there is no fglrx on ppc either.
[01:15] <shadeofgrey> hey guys which dapper do i want flight one or two?
[01:15] <hd420> maybe you're sending to the wrong person, ompaul
[01:15] <cafuego> shadeofgrey: two is newer than one
[01:15] <benplaut> thoreauputic: filezilla is open source?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> benplaut: have a look at the URL i gave above
[01:16] <HurricaneJ> so i know for future reference anyt software i want i do a sudo apt-get install and then type whatever the software name is?
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> okay that settles it
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> now
[01:16] <benplaut> thoreauputic: i see...
[01:16] <HurricaneJ> once its done installing how do i activate it?
[01:16] <Necrosan> cafuego: fglrx on ppc would be a simple recompile for ati. ;)
[01:16] <benplaut> i wonder if it can be compiled w/WINE, for a half emulation
[01:16] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: More or less, yes. You can use System -> Administration -> Synaptic for easier management.
[01:16] <sorush20> Necrosan: not funny at all..
[01:17] <synmoo> Question: Any way to fix the console being cut off at the bottom?
[01:17] <cafuego> Necrosan: I doubt it. Knowing ATI their code won't even compile on a non-sactioned gcc.
[01:17] <HurricaneJ> not activate it but where does the software go for me to open it?
[01:17] <shadeofgrey> when i install it will it see the other ubuntu install i have and put itself into the copy of grub thats already present or will it overwrite the mbr and make itself the peimary?
[01:17] <ompaul> hd420, it (1.3.33-8) would not install without postfix with postfix it jumped right in and started ... that is all I can say on it
[01:17] <hd420> ahhh
[01:18] <sethk> shadeofgrey, during install, unless you say skip the boot loader, it will cover it up with a new mbr
[01:18] <HurricaneJ> aww man ubuntu rocks
[01:18] <aconbere> is there a decent source of installation documentation?
[01:18] <ompaul> and general users don't need them etc
[01:18] <Necrosan> cafuego: I think it'd work.   Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:20] <thoreauputic> aconbere: the install CD actually has an install howto on it too, BTW
[01:20] <Necrosan> too bad there's no support for acceleration in linux/ppc
[01:20] <Tedd|> How do I change to a directory with a space in it?
[01:20] <Necrosan> plus id rather use osx than linux, any day =P
[01:20] <sorush20> Necrosan: I have agp.. but I keep getting this error in my log..         (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[01:20] <Tedd|> I have a director called Important Files, should I just rename it?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: use tab compplete
[01:20] <Necrosan> sorush20: weird
[01:20] <Tedd|> (I need to CD into it to run a .deb file)
[01:20] <thoreauputic> *complete
[01:20] <Tedd|> thoreauputic: Thanks
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> marc,  the place to look would be the cedega wow forums
[01:20] <aconbere> thoreauputic: I'm walking a friend through it, he has no OS running at this time.  If there a way for me to access that documentation on line that would probably suffice.
[01:20] <sorush20> Necrosan: must be my motherboard..
[01:20] <marc> I've tried that Dr_Wills
[01:20] <mcjerry> Tedd you could type cd 'directory with space'
[01:20] <Epix> anyone live in ottawa, ON, CA near brittanna who has a knoppix CD for me to bororow? I *really* dont want to download it...
[01:21] <Epix> :P
[01:21] <thoreauputic> aconbere: right - I think help.ubuntu.com should have an install guide (not sure)
[01:21] <superchode|fu> anyone on getting GUI to come up with a voodoo3?
[01:21] <djm62> Epix: try the front of linux magazines in local newsagents
[01:21] <hd420> ompaul: postfix is already installed and at the newest version
[01:21] <superchode|fu> Epix: i'm only 5 or so hours away.... heh
[01:21] <ompaul> Tedd|, unless it is for Ubuntu or you know exactly what your doing then don't go installing any .deb on your box - you would not put toyota parts on a nissan
[01:21] <pl_ice>  u guys know is there a gui for ffmpeg ? ....
[01:21] <Epix> superchode|fu: quebec? toronto?
[01:21] <superchode|fu> hamilton
[01:22] <Epix> superchode|fu: ah.
[01:22] <Tedd|> ompaul: It's Kasablanca.
[01:22] <Tedd|> The FTP program.
[01:22] <HurricaneJ> im trying to play mp3s do i need t odownload codecs for it? since this is a new install?
[01:22] <aconbere> thoreauputic: it would be nice, but as far as I can tell no such documentation exists, the line I've heard time and time again is that it's so simple it's not needed.
[01:22] <pl_ice>  u guys know is there a gui for ffmpeg ? ....
[01:22] <john> anyone know a quick way to check that my opengl and 3d acceleration is workin?
[01:22] <nalioth> HurricaneJ: yes you'll need to set your box up
[01:22] <HurricaneJ> im using rythmbox and im trying to stream it from my windows desktop computer
[01:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell HurricaneJ about mp3
[01:22] <aconbere> john: glx-gears?
[01:22] <djm62> john: glxinfo
[01:22] <john> how do I run it?
[01:22] <pl_ice> !ffmpeg
[01:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, pl_ice
[01:22] <ompaul> Tedd|, I know nothing of it I know gftp sftp and ftp
[01:23] <djm62> john: type glxinfo, then enter
[01:23] <ompaul> Tedd|, random car parts do not go in other random cars
[01:23] <Tedd|> How do I install a .deb anyways
[01:23] <Tedd|> ompaul: It's for the KDE.
[01:23] <labandus> i 'm looking for tool for burning DVD'S on Ubuntu
[01:23] <apokryphos> !k3b
[01:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!
[01:23] <vini> hey guys, sorry for the stupid question, but could anyone point me in the right direction on how to share a printer from ubuntu to windows xp? i need to print from my laptop with xp on it. i looked around, but couldnt find anything helpful. thanks.
[01:23] <djm62> labandus: data DVDs or video DVDs?
[01:23] <Tedd|> ompaul: http://kasablanca.berlios.de/
[01:23] <pl_ice> Tedd| there is a nice command 'apropos' eg. type apropos deb and u gonna find it ...
[01:24] <aconbere> labandus: gnome-toaster, xcdroast, gravedigger, bashburn
[01:24] <labandus> videos dVD djm62
[01:24] <aconbere> k3b
[01:24] <john> so if I get lots of missing on desplays and segmentation fault does that mean 3d is not working?
[01:24] <HurricaneJ> i have some music that i purchased from the itunes store can it be played with any player in linux or am i out of luck in that dpt? plus i have some aac files i probably have to convert them
[01:24] <john> djm62
[01:24] <Necrosan> HurricaneJ: out of luck
[01:24] <djm62> john: yes
[01:24] <djm62> john: try also glxgears
[01:24] <mcjerry> vini: how is the printer connected to you linux box?
[01:24] <vini> hey guys, sorry for the stupid question, but could anyone point me in the right direction on how to share a printer from ubuntu to windows xp? i need to print from my laptop with xp on it. i looked around, but couldnt find anything helpful. thanks.
[01:24] <john> how do I get it working with an nvidia gf6600gt
[01:24] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: if it's KDE - konqueror can also be used for ftp quite easily
[01:24] <vini> usb
[01:25] <john> I installed the nvidia-glx
[01:25] <sorush20> could someone please review my log here and tell me what the hell is happening with the agp initiation http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6285
[01:25] <john> do I need to enable it somehow?
[01:25] <nalioth> HurricaneJ: those files will be encrypted, which won't play encrypted in linux
[01:25] <sally_> anyone install breezy on an acer travelmate?
[01:25] <mcjerry> vini: do you have samba setup?
[01:25] <vini> i think so
[01:25] <aconbere> what's the difference between the two partition options, erase entire disk (disk info) and erase entire disk LBM?
[01:25] <Tedd|> I just want to know how to open/install a .deb file.
[01:25] <j2dope> does anyone know any backport repositories i could use? mine won't update
[01:25] <djm62> john: can't help you, sorry
[01:25] <vini> hold on
[01:25] <ompaul> Tedd|, not the point, if it is not a ubuntu deb for your version it is more than likely not for you, you can do stuff like "dpkg -i foo.deb" but if it breaks do not come crying if it is you can install it using adept  or kynaptic
[01:26] <Epix> something tells me that the knoppix torrent will be faster than the http dl... 198 seeders
[01:26] <john> Anyone here know how to get an nvidia gf 6600gt working?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: sudo dpkg -i <debfile.deb>
[01:26] <HurricaneJ> nalioth im trying to open some mp3 files that are located on my desktop im using rhythmbox but it wont open i did do a sodu for mp3 playback it installed is there a steop im missing?\
[01:26] <vini> mcjerry: i have it installed, just not configured, im not sure how to
[01:26] <ompaul> Tedd|, you most likely want to ask the bot how to install more repos
[01:26] <aconbere> what the heck is LBM
[01:26] <labandus> djm62,  whar do you to propose me
[01:26] <nalioth> HurricaneJ: you've installed gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[01:26] <thoreauputic> !tell HurricaneJ about mp3
[01:26] <HurricaneJ> yeah
[01:26] <Tedd|> thoreauputic: THANK YOU. ompaul: I fully understand your concern, thanks. If it breaks the install then I will reformat, or whatever I have to do
[01:27] <Tedd|> ompaul: I know well how to install more repositories, thanks
[01:27] <ompaul> Laboratory of Biological Modeling
[01:27] <mcjerry> vini: pm me, if you arenot registered, register your nick and pm me
[01:27] <john> Anyone know how to enable 3d acceleration in breezy?
[01:27] <djm62> labandus: I suspect k3b will do the job, you might need mencoder to put the video files in the right format
[01:27] <thoreauputic> Tedd|: he's only trying to help - we aren't mind readers :)
[01:27] <aconbere> oooh... LVM
[01:27] <Tedd|> I know. Thanks.
[01:27] <jamesthebard> john: ATI or nvidia?
[01:27] <john> nvidia
[01:27] <ompaul> linux volume management
[01:28] <john> gf 6600gt
[01:28] <sally_> does anyone use flight 2 as their everyday machine?  I can't get breezy working on my laptop and am thinking of trying it out
[01:28] <labandus> djm62,  i do'nt have  k3b
[01:28] <ompaul> s/linux/logical
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Logical Volume Management I think
[01:28] <thoreauputic> yup
[01:28] <j2dope> well could someone tell me how to upgrade to firefox 1.5 please?
[01:28] <labandus> djm62,  isn't there another tool for burning
[01:28] <john> jamesthebard, any idea?
[01:29] <lleberg> Feels good to get a nice fresh start with my computer, new motherboard and format of the disk..
[01:29] <aconbere> thoreauputic: why would one want to use that? over say, just starting the install without it?
[01:29] <lleberg> and then installing the best OS, without doing anything illegal ;)
[01:29] <apokryphos> j2dope: ther'es an entry about it on the wiki
[01:29] <rabbit> j2dope: I was told you sholdn't do it..  there's a help page somewhere about that
[01:29] <thoreauputic> aconbere: basically if you don't know, you don't need it :)
[01:29] <jamesthebard> Yep.
[01:29] <jamesthebard> john: Yep.
[01:29] <j2dope> hrrrm.. i need the DOM inspector installed. and synaptic won't let me install it
[01:29] <pashaw> !tell john about nvidia
[01:30] <KenMasters> a ver
[01:30] <KenMasters> alguien habla espaol?
[01:30] <apokryphos> !es
[01:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:30] <KenMasters> well
[01:30] <mcjerry> vini: google howto samba usb share printer... you need to configure samba correctly and restart samba
[01:30] <thoreauputic> firefox 1.5 ->>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:31] <vini> ok ill try that and then come back. thanks
[01:31] <KenMasters> ./dev/videoXX no exist
[01:32] <thales> hello
[01:32] <KenMasters> root@kendatos:~/spca5xx-20051212# lsusb
[01:32] <KenMasters> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:32] <KenMasters> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd
[01:32] <pashaw> !pastebin
[01:32] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:32] <mcjerry> vini: am leaving work will be home in a bit. pm me if you need me, i'll check when i get there
[01:32] <KenMasters> i install spca5xx
[01:32] <pl_ice> hey, anyone tried xmms with the plugin iTouch for keyboards? my crashes
[01:32] <nalioth> KenMasters: please read the /topic and use a pastebin
[01:32] <KenMasters> ok
[01:32] <HurricaneJ> can i do a sudo for amarok or do i need to download it from the website i was told it has full ipod support
[01:33] <apokryphos> !amarok 1.3.7
[01:33] <ubotu> I heard amarok 1.3.7 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[01:33] <Jemt> Greetings. I have a minor problem with Xorg. Every time I logoff and log back into Gnome og Fluxbox, the resolution is set to the maximum allowed resolution (and by that 60 Hz). I just want it to run in 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz. How can i "hard code" this into a configuration file so it won't change back again?
[01:34] <cmatheson> Jemt: remove the resolutions you don't want from your xorg.conf
[01:34] <lleberg> After installing, my computer wint let me have picture in X, terminal works great though
[01:35] <EddieDaMan> hi apokryphos, how do i know if ubuntu5.10 recognizes my graphics card?
[01:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell EddieDaMan about hardware
[01:35] <KenMasters> please check my problem
[01:35] <KenMasters> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6286
[01:35] <EddieDaMan> thanks
[01:35] <Jemt> cmatheson: Then I can't choose the correct monitor frequenzy
[01:35] <Aquatopia> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu, the only cdrom I have is a bit broken, but I'm able to start the setup but as soon as it starts installing stuff it dies. Can I install of the internet as is possible with debian?
[01:36] <sorush20> !xfree86-dga
[01:36] <ubotu> sorush20: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:36] <HurricaneJ> is there a dock for ubuntu that i can use instead of the bottom panel to see what windows are open? i have searched but have not found any info on it
[01:36] <apokryphos> !tell Aquatopia about install
[01:36] <Jemt> Aquatopia: You might get lucky with a 'server' install - after that you can install the rest from the internet.
[01:36] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, thanks :)
[01:36] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: popular kde ones, at least, are kxdocker, ksmoothdock, and kooldock
[01:36] <john> oh poo, i have killed ubuntu, i enabled the nvidia drivers and got blue screen saying "failed to start x server" on boot....any ideas chaps? please help :(
[01:36] <sorush20> HurricaneJ: you can just move the bar..
[01:36] <Jemt> HurricaneJ: Can recommend ksmoothdock
[01:36] <sorush20> guys what is  sudo fglrxconfig
[01:37] <HurricaneJ> im on ubuntu gnome 2.12 will they work on what i have?
[01:37] <apokryphos> yes
[01:37] <thales> i hate gnome
[01:37] <thales> =/
[01:38] <apokryphos> thales: congratulations, but no trolling here please.
[01:38] <john> please someone help :(
[01:39] <apokryphos> john: (i) you have an nvidia card? (ii) you installed nvidia-glx (presuming you have a newish one), (iii) you enabled it in xorg.conf?
[01:39] <john> no
[01:39] <john> i used a command in terminal
[01:39] <apokryphos> ...config enable?
[01:39] <john> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:39] <apokryphos> yup, that's the same
[01:40] <john> ah ok
[01:40] <foampeace> hello, what is a good linux game site
[01:40] <HurricaneJ> wow i just found disks and i ubuntu took like 10gbs + to install i have a 8-gb harddrive and i only have lik 65.41 left
[01:40] <john> well i did that now i have this blue screen with failed x server onboot
[01:40] <apokryphos> john: sometimes it helps to do a full reconfigure. Try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:40] <john> should  i disable config?
[01:40] <ptlo> hmm...how can I reinstall a package? (for examplke, if I've damaged some of the files from it) using apt-get ?
[01:40] <mwe> !tell foampeace about games
[01:40] <mwe> foampeace: and happypenguin.org
[01:40] <Davey`> ptlo: apt-get install --reinstall PKG
[01:41] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't have to... let's go with the above.
[01:41] <foampeace> mwe: ya im at happypenguin...i did a google search..wonder if people know some other good ones
[01:41] <ptlo> Davey`: thanks
[01:41] <mwe> foampeace: look at what ubotu told you
[01:41] <Davey`> ptlo: :)
[01:41] <mwe> !games
[01:41] <ubotu> methinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[01:42] <foampeace> mwe: oh right thanks
[01:42] <pl_ice> !panadol
[01:42] <ubotu> No idea, pl_ice
[01:42] <pl_ice> :/
[01:42] <vini12341234> hey i followed the directions, and xp wants a username and password to connect
[01:42] <HurricaneJ> i downloaded amarok so i dont need rhyhtmbox how can i delete software? and some games i wont be using to clear space
[01:42] <john> apokryphos, ok done that bud, now im at my prompt
[01:42] <woyceck> hello. does anybody known how i could automatical switch to suspend by closing the labtop
[01:42] <foampeace> mwe: i like those small games like vultureseye and labrynth
[01:42] <john> how do i run gnome?
[01:42] <ZeroIRC> !cd burner
[01:43] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ZeroIRC
[01:43] <foampeace> john : gnome-session?
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> !cdburner
[01:43] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, ZeroIRC
[01:43] <apokryphos> john: ok, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> lol
[01:43] <john> apokryphos ok
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> !cd
[01:43] <ubotu> ZeroIRC: Wish i knew
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> lol, ubotu don't like me
[01:43] <ZeroIRC> What is the CD burner on Ubuntu?
[01:43] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: try asking a human
[01:43] <Knowerrors> Hey all looking to modifiy/add to this command dd if=/dev/dvd of=/pub/export/nameofthedvd.iso and make a script that will automatically grab the name of the dvd and use it for the iso name, any ideas?
[01:43] <nalioth> ZeroIRC: you can use many. gnomebaker, graveman, cdroast
[01:43] <john> apokryphos, hmm now my monitor cant display the screen
[01:44] <ZeroIRC> nalioth, thanks
[01:44] <john> i can hear that it has booted ok tho
[01:44] <pl_ice> !nalioth xmms+ itouch
[01:44] <ubotu> pl_ice: Syntax error in line 1
[01:44] <mwe> foampeace: yeah. tried apt-cache search game too?
[01:44] <john> apokryphosi heard the log in
[01:44] <pl_ice> heehee
[01:44] <apokryphos> john: perhaps you put a resolution that was out of range?
[01:44] <foampeace> anyone played any good small linux games lately tghat are free?
[01:44] <john> so i guess some monitor settings r wrong
[01:44] <john> i put the right res
[01:44] <mwe> foampeace: frozen-bubble is fun
[01:44] <Aviatrixie> good evening from Neville Island :)
[01:44] <john> could be refresh rate as i set to simple setup so it has auto chosen wrong one
[01:44] <apokryphos> john: refresh rate, too?
[01:45] <pl_ice> any one uses xmms and itouch plugin? ....
[01:45] <john> the res is ok
[01:45] <john> i think
[01:45] <john> how do i do this
[01:45] <fraggsta> I'm partial to the odd game of XMoto :)
[01:45] <apokryphos> john: better go for "medium"
[01:45] <john> recovery mode?
[01:45] <apokryphos> john: press ctrl+alt+f1
[01:45] <john> will that reboot?
[01:45] <apokryphos> does it take you to a bash login?
[01:45] <apokryphos> nope
[01:46] <HurricaneJ> can anybody tell me how to remove unwanted software and games to clear harddrive space?
[01:46] <john> still no display
[01:46] <john> should I power off?
[01:46] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: from synaptic
[01:46] <vini12341234> hey guys, what is the user name and password to log onto ubuntu through XP and network neighborhood?
[01:46] <apokryphos> john: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:46] <Aviatrixie> ?
[01:46] <john> apokryphos, still no display
[01:46] <apokryphos> ok, go for a reset then
[01:46] <john> i think i need recovery and do what you said again
[01:46] <fraggsta> vini12341234: use the username and password you normally log into the Ubuntu machine with
[01:47] <HurricaneJ> when i go to synaptic what do i look for?
[01:47] <apokryphos> joh: ctrl+alt+f1 really should've worked though, hmm...
[01:47] <john> apokryphos recovery yeah?
[01:47] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: the package you want to remove
[01:47] <vini12341234> i tried that and it changes the name to LAPTOP\vini
[01:47] <apokryphos> john: sure, why not
[01:47] <dragonbyte> how do I control what resources yenta comes up using?
[01:47] <john> apokryphos, ok booting, youre a very patient chilled person
[01:47] <dragonbyte> i have a ze4145 laptop and pcmcia starting up on the wrong irqs cause kernel panics
[01:47] <john> apokryphos thanks
[01:47] <HurricaneJ> ok the ones with the ubuntu logo are the ones installed on my computer right?
[01:48] <apokryphos> john: no problem -- we're here to help. :)
[01:48] <dragonbyte> I had this fixed once, but I did a fresh ubuntu install and forgot to save config.opts
[01:48] <rikai> is it just me, or is ubuntuforums.org really slow all of a sudden?
[01:48] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: You can sort them by installed status
[01:48] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: See the buttons down the bottom right
[01:48] <john> ok
[01:48] <danfredr> Heisan
[01:48] <john> so do reconfigure ya?
[01:48] <denial> alles klar
[01:48] <denial> ?
[01:49] <HurricaneJ> i dont have buttons on the bottom right on the left handside i do
[01:49] <cafuego> Keine ahnung.
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: yup, you might also want to stop gdm
[01:49] <apokryphos> (if it's running)
[01:49] <john> apokryphos, do reconfigure again?
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:49] <john> ok
[01:49] <denial> what kind of buttons?
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <cafuego> HurricaneJ: Oh yes, the other right :-)
[01:49] <apokryphos> john: after you've reconfigured just do a "startx", instead of going through gdm this time.
[01:49] <e-fonz> anyone know a good banking/cashflow/bookkeeping program that easily installs on ubuntu?
[01:49] <HurricaneJ> and i click on status?
[01:50] <dragonbyte> e-fonz: GNUcash
[01:50] <apokryphos> kmymoney2 is meant to be good, too
[01:50] <john> apokryphos, k
[01:50] <denial> how boring...
[01:50] <cafuego> dragonbyte: edit /etc/pcmcia/config.opts and asdd 'ignore' rules.
[01:50] <HurricaneJ> whoa it says i have usplash isnt this the boot loader?
[01:50] <denial> hasta luego
[01:50] <pashaw> HurricaneJ,   yes  then installed
[01:50] <e-fonz> dragonbyte:Tnx
[01:50] <dragonbyte> cafuego: yeah, thats the hitch, i dont remember what excludes i did to make it work last time
[01:50] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: what makes the startup pretty, yes.
[01:50] <e-fonz> 05apokryphos:Tnx
[01:51] <cafuego> dragonbyte: D'oh! I only know them for my laptop (nx9005)
[01:51] <dragonbyte> cafuego: right now, exclude irq 5 keeps it from blowing up (which is the irq yenta is sitting on), but it doesnt do anything
[01:51] <john> apokryphos, im getting "xserver-org is not installed"
[01:51] <HurricaneJ> how do i configure it? i did not know i had it
[01:51] <e-fonz> apokryphos:Tnx
[01:51] <dragonbyte> cafuego: I want to say I had yenta itself on irq 11 somehow
[01:51] <apokryphos> john: missed the x before the org
[01:51] <john> apokryphos, silly me
[01:51] <apokryphos> e-fonz: for? ;-)
[01:51] <cafuego> dragonbyte: You might be able to do that via /etc/modprobe.d/*  (check 'modinfo yenta_socket' and see if you can feed it an irq= param)
[01:52] <e-fonz> kmymoney2??????????/
[01:52] <dragonbyte> cafuego: hrm...god I wish I remembered how I did this :(
[01:52] <apokryphos> e-fonz: whoops, oh yes, sorry.
[01:52] <sorush20> how do I check if my agp is working properly..
[01:52] <e-fonz> apokryphos: :)
[01:53] <apokryphos> sorush20: use it?
[01:53] <john> apokryphos, rebooting
[01:53] <dragonbyte> cafuego: doesnt look like it :(
[01:53] <john> apokryphos,  fingers crossed
[01:54] <apokryphos> john: wait, no need :)
[01:54] <bobcat> Hi everyone.  i just bought and ipod and installed gtkpod to upload music to it; however, i don't think it supports photos..  does anyone know what app will?
[01:54] <apokryphos> john: you can just startx now
[01:54] <john> apokryphos, even from recovery mode?
[01:54] <pl_ice> can i ask for easy help with ffmpeg? ...
[01:54] <Aviatrixie> I recently migrated from M$ to Linux and love it. I also recently switched from dial-up to DSL and loving that too. I was offered a Westell wireless router for only an additional on time charge of $15us so I took it. I have not yet installed any wireless devices, yet the wireless led on the router constantly blinks. My googles indicate that means a neighbor is accessing my ISP. Further Gooling indicates I need to block that f
[01:54] <Aviatrixie> or security and to prevent reduction of bandwidth and to utilize encryption for security purposes. Since I have removed Windows entirely from my HD and MY ISP (Verizon) does not support Linux, how do I do that? A link to a howto will suffice.  :)
[01:54] <pashaw> john,   yes
[01:54] <john> ah ok well i rebooted now
[01:54] <john> know for future
[01:54] <apokryphos> john: yup, even from there.
[01:54] <john> apokryphos, have display now...phew
[01:55] <e-fonz> apokryphos: installing kmymoney now, tnx a lot! gonna try GNUcash later!
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: this apparently is a very well known issue too
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: all over google
[01:55] <john> apokryphos, ok, so what do I do now to prevent the whole blue screen, x
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: but cant seem to find anyone who fixed it
[01:55] <Blippe> homework is just a theory and should not be taught in school!
[01:55] <apokryphos> john: at the command prompt now?
[01:55] <john> apokryphos, should i reintall the nvidia drivers?
[01:55] <dragonbyte> cafuego: makes me feel a little special that I did it once, but boy does it suck not remembering how I did it
[01:55] <john> apokryphos, yes
[01:56] <apokryphos> john: no point in reinstalling; clarify that they are, though...... dpkg -l|grep nvidia-glx ?
[01:56] <HurricaneJ> amarok & ipod what else do i need to download to make it read it
[01:56] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   youll need to read your router manual  and enable  WEP   and/or    mac filtering
[01:56] <pl_ice> pls put ur hand up if u know how to use ffmpeg
[01:56] <apokryphos> HurricaneJ: the ipod? That's it.
[01:56] <ITSa341> who here is familiar with Win98 .dll files?
[01:56] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   either will stop the casual neighbor using it
[01:57] <john> apokryphos, is that a pipe or a j?
[01:57] <apokryphos> pipe
[01:57] <ITSa341> anyone remember where wsock32.dll went in Win98??
[01:57] <john> apokryphos, know how to get one on a gb keyboard? i see the key, what do i press with it?
[01:58] <Evil_Whisper> hi apokryphos
[01:58] <HurricaneJ> earlier i configured my wireless network but the light on my computer showing that wifi is on is not displaying the blue led it usually did what do i need to download to make it work?
[01:58] <apokryphos> john: shift+ \   ...for me
[01:58] <apokryphos> aloha, Evil_Whisper
[01:58] <pl_ice> ITSa341 must be in command or straight into windows dir
[01:58] <john> apokryphos, thats the one
[01:58] <ITSa341> I can get AOL to load but it gives me a missing wsock32.dll error when trying to connect
[01:59] <john> apokryphos, ok i got 3 readouts
[01:59] <dragonbyte> cafuego: where would I add "pre-install usb-ohci modprobe yenta_socket" in ubuntu?
[01:59] <apokryphos> john: interesting; what's the first column entry in each one?
[01:59] <john> apokryphos, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[01:59] <pashaw> ITSa341,   #windows   would be abetter place for that question
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: that might well be your problem :)
[02:00] <cafuego> john: Not both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy. Pick one of them, they are mutually exclusive.
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: I thought nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-glx conflicted, but I guess not
[02:00] <john> apokryphos, i want rid of legacy and dev right?
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: what nvidia card is it?
[02:00] <john> gf6600gt
[02:00] <apokryphos> john: get rid of the legacy stuff then
[02:00] <mojo_> FLASH!  Samba now incorporates integration with entropy!  Chicken bones and tea leaves will be implemented as primary status monitoring angents  ;)
[02:00] <john> apokryphos, know the commands in terminal?
[02:01] <meepy> How do I installa Metacity theme? Like installing any other GTK theme, by drag n drop it into the "Themes" application?
[02:01] <apokryphos> john: sudo apt-get remove package1 package2
[02:01] <POORtland> anyone editing audio with ubuntu?
[02:01] <Evil_Whisper> Yeah meepy
[02:01] <meepy> Thanks
[02:02] <Necrosan> POORtland: get a mac for that
[02:02] <Necrosan> :)
[02:02] <Necrosan> POORtland: http://www.necrosan.com/newcompsetup.jpg
[02:02] <Aviatrixie> Gawd... I'm such a newbie!  LOL  I just tried to PM you (via DCC), Pashaw and it didn't work. What is WEP?
[02:02] <Necrosan> Aviatrixie: Wireless Encryption Protocol
[02:02] <Necrosan> i think
[02:03] <POORtland> u do necro?
[02:03] <mojo_> WEP = Wireless Encryption Protocol, no?
[02:03] <john> apokryphos, says theyre not installed?
[02:03] <crouton> si
[02:03] <dragonbyte> mojo_: We Eat People
[02:03] <sklav> Hi Guys
[02:03] <flashback|afk> hi
[02:03] <mojo_> dragonbyte: o, i c
[02:03] <sklav> anybody use dfs before?
[02:03] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   basic wireless security     read the manual  it should walk you through it
[02:03] <apokryphos> john: doesn't sound right. They wouldn't come up in dpkg -l if that was the case...
[02:04] <flashback> anyone using ubuntu in vmware
[02:04] <sklav> what up apokryphos
[02:04] <Necrosan> POORtland: nah, i use a mac
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, there is an rc next to them instead of ii in the grep thing
[02:04] <POORtland> oh
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, they were installed as I insalled them accidentally before
[02:04] <POORtland> well whats this os good for?
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, should i try enabling glx again?
[02:04] <apokryphos> sklav: heyhey; all good. You?
[02:04] <mojo_> POORtland: Gaming, of course!!
[02:04] <john> apokryphos, or do you think it will all go pear shaped again?
[02:04] <sklav> pretty good
[02:05] <flashback> what is standaard root password in ubuntu vmware image
[02:05] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't be necessary. Do a cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep nvidia
[02:05] <john> apokryphos, or should I remove nvidia-glx and then reinstall?
[02:05] <POORtland> really?
[02:05] <POORtland> can u play pc games on it?
[02:05] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't be necesssary, nope.
[02:05] <crazney> heya.. i just upgraded my kernel to dapper's 2.6.15-9-686 and for some reason on boot, after the kernel is loaded, it says 'ALERT! /dev/hde1 does not exist. Dropping to shell!'. works fine with previous kernels.. in the shell, i checked and there only seems to be /dev/hdb1 (cdrom).. i'm guessing the new kernel somehow probes for devices and doesn't find my hdd, which is on an hpt366 controller?
[02:05] <john> apokryphos, ok done that
[02:05] <mojo_> POORtland: no, not really.  Unless you count Id software and MAME
[02:06] <POORtland> so thats what this is good for?
[02:06] <apokryphos> john: output?
[02:06] <POORtland> id software and games?
[02:06] <john> apokryphos, nothing at all, just gos back to $
[02:06] <john> goes
[02:06] <pashaw> POORtland,    google linux + cool stuff
[02:06] <POORtland> what about like running a server w/it any advantages over xp?
[02:06] <xjlittle> hi all..I just installed ubuntu server, but can't seem to get apache to start using sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[02:06] <dragonbyte> what replaced modules.conf in ubuntu?
[02:07] <jamesthebard> POORtland: Makes a great server.
[02:07] <apokryphos> john: you didn't select "nvidia", then, when you did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <Aviatrixie> Pashaw... I've never used wireless before. I am surrounded by close neighbors though. Does a blinking wireless light on my router mean someone is hijacking my service?
[02:07] <cafuego> dragonbyte: /etc/modprobe.d/*
[02:07] <mojo_> POORtland: Id software supports Linux, releases clients for their games.  Unreal Tournament 2004 (and supposedly the next one) supports Linux too.
[02:07] <pashaw> POORtland, too many advantages you should google it
[02:07] <apokryphos> john: perhaps did you select "nv"
[02:07] <apokryphos> (not the same)
[02:07] <sethk> crazney, I've noticed that with some new shell versions, things become /dev/sdX that used to be /dev/hdX
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> what is up peoples?
[02:07] <dragonbyte> cafuego: where would I put the preinstall thing?
[02:07] <dragonbyte> "pre-install usb-ohci modprobe yenta_socket"
[02:07] <cafuego> sethk: That has nothing to do with shells.
[02:07] <john> apokryphos, yes I selected the default....nv
[02:07] <sklav> POORtland, why did you come to ubuntu any specific question? or just bored of your current OS?
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> dang... lol imma have to change my name back to humbled...
[02:07] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   dont panic  likely all they are doing is reading CNN and nudies at night big deal         but to stop them enable basic security = WEP
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> oh well
[02:07] <john> apokryphos,  i made a boo boo huh?
[02:07] <POORtland> yea
[02:07] <sethk> crazney, because SATA chipsets are fully supported when before they were only supported in compatibility mode
[02:07] <POORtland> xp
[02:07] <cafuego> dragonbyte: Any file there (create one called yenta maybe)
[02:07] <xjlittle> can anyone give me any ideas about why it won't start?
[02:07] <no_so_sudo_smart> hey got another question
[02:07] <mojo_> POORtland: but there are truly not many games out.  MAME is the multi-arcade-machine-emulator that emulates all the old ardcade hardware.  you have to find ROMS out there though
[02:08] <sethk> cafuego, his question has nothing to do with shells
[02:08] <sklav> POORtland, so which part of XP annoys you?
[02:08] <john> apokryphos, can i reconfigure from here?
[02:08] <cafuego> sethk: Then why did you mention shell versions? ;-)
[02:08] <apokryphos> john: nv is the freeformats one. nvidia is what you want though
[02:08] <crazney> sethk: hrm. it's a rather old motherboard / controller.. do you think it could be being mistaken as sdX?
[02:08] <sethk> cafuego, I didn't
[02:08] <no_so_sudo_smart> i did an apt-get install wine and it installed it but i cant seem to find it on my box... any ideas where it is located and how to put it in my applications list?
[02:08] <sklav> and maybe we can tell you of Ubuntu benefits
[02:08] <dragonbyte> cafuego: can I just create a file there?
[02:08] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:08] <apokryphos> john: sure
[02:08] <cafuego> sethk: Yes, you really did.
[02:08] <sethk> crazney, if it is old it doesn't sound likely.
[02:08] <john> apokryphos,  i see
[02:08] <dragonbyte> cafuego: does it read through everything in that dir?
[02:08] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:08] <POORtland> well i've heard that file transfers and internet stuff is faster on a linux box
[02:08] <sethk> cafuego, I meant to say kernel versions.  I think that's what I said.
[02:08] <crazney> sethk: yeah.. and there aren't any /dev/sd* there anyhow
[02:08] <cafuego> dragonbyte: Yes, and it generates a new modules.conf from those files.
[02:09] <crazney> sethk: (in busybox or whatever that shell it dropped me to is)
[02:09] <sethk> crazney, in that case, definitely not
[02:09] <POORtland> i send alot of large audio and video files to friends and family
[02:09] <cafuego> sethk: No, you said shell, hence my  note.
[02:09] <sklav> POORtland, you are somewhat correct Networking is better on linux
[02:09] <pashaw> !tell no_so_sudo_smart about wine
[02:09] <mojo_> POORtland: better question is what do you hope to get out of a distro, and start from there.  That will help make it easier to decide if Ubuntu meets your requirements or not. It is, after all, a general purpos OS good for lots of things
[02:09] <sethk> crazney, could it be the "offboard ide first" flag?
[02:09] <POORtland> xp seems like it gets bogged down
[02:09] <sethk> cafuego, ok, I believe you
[02:09] <no_so_sudo_smart> ahh pashaw... hows it going ole buddy
[02:09] <crazney> sethk: what's that?
[02:09] <dragonbyte> cafuego: ok well here it goes I guess
[02:09] <foampeace> how can you make deborphan execute after apt-get
[02:09] <xjlittle> can anyone help me with apache?
[02:09] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:09] <sklav> POORtland, you copuld setup a server or an ftp server to allow people to connect and get them
[02:09] <pashaw> no_so_sudo_smart,   no idea who you are  diff nick id guess
[02:09] <foampeace> i mean debfoster
[02:09] <crazney> sethk: even though the controller is on the mobo i think it is treated as an offboard one..
[02:09] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:09] <flashback> anyone knows the root password of the ubuntu vmware image
[02:09] <no_so_sudo_smart> its been a day since ive done a chmod... its tough but im just taking it one day at a time
[02:10] <sethk> crazney, to get to hde, you need the extra IDE controller
[02:10] <cafuego> flashback: Stop spamming.
[02:10] <no_so_sudo_smart> oh
[02:10] <sethk> crazney, offboard is a misnomer
[02:10] <sklav> POORtland, linux " Ubuntu is built from the ground up to be a networking OS
[02:10] <no_so_sudo_smart> yeah thats right i changed it again
[02:10] <sklav> windows was not
[02:10] <crazney> sethk: extra ide controller?
[02:10] <foampeace> how do you make debfoster execute after an apt-get or dpkg ?
[02:10] <Linfan> i have a question when i first installed ubuntu this boot screen came on but now all i see is text how can i make it go back to bootscreen
[02:10] <no_so_sudo_smart> well the chmod should have clued you in on who i was lol
[02:10] <john> apokryphos, ok all reconfigured
[02:10] <hawking> what is the package that has the X window system header files and libraries?
[02:10] <sethk> crazney, I know there are a couple of Asus mobo's the have the "offboard" ide onboard.  Really the extra, yes.
[02:10] <sorush20> is there a great difference between xserver-xorg and xserver-xfree86?
[02:10] <foampeace> cd /etc/apt/
[02:10] <flashback> nobody knows it
[02:10] <foampeace> ls
[02:10] <pashaw> no_so_sudo_smart,   ahh     yeah   good to see your still learning
[02:10] <apokryphos> john: cross your fingers and hit "startx"
[02:10] <cafuego> sorush20: Yes.
[02:10] <Aviatrixie> Thanks Pashaw. :) One last question... your messages to me are browm but everyone else is blue. Does this mean you are PMing me or is it just something else? I'm totally new to this venue. I assume this is IRC. (I used IRC a few times on WebTV a few years ago)
[02:10] <apokryphos> john: though first make sure gdm isn't running
[02:10] <crazney> sethk: i'm not sure what you mean..
[02:10] <POORtland> well i have 2.67ghz 256 mb ram kickn round
[02:10] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   im typing your name
[02:11] <Linfan> is there a task manager for ubuntu?
[02:11] <Aviatrixie> ok... ty pashaw  :)
[02:11] <no_so_sudo_smart> well ive had linux on my comp now for 2 weeks.. and i can tell everyone what not to do with it
[02:11] <sethk> crazney, there are two kernel compile options about the extra ide controller
[02:11] <Linfan> i want to se how much memory im using
[02:11] <john> apokryphos, im already in x
[02:11] <sklav> john, try alt+F7
[02:11] <sklav> if in doubt
[02:11] <Determinist> Linfan, gnome-system-manager
[02:11] <sklav> hehe
[02:11] <cafuego> Linfan: yes, there is. Check the Applications -> System Tool menu.
[02:11] <sethk> crazney, one says to use it, and the other tells the kernel which of the ide controllers should be hda,b,c,d, and which should be hde, etc.
[02:11] <no_so_sudo_smart> but thats ok cuz sooner or later i will run out of problems to run into
[02:11] <Determinist> Linfan, system-monitor, sorry
[02:11] <apokryphos> john: ohh.. but in a failsafe terminal, or in gnome or something?
[02:11] <crazney> sethk: ah right
[02:11] <toya__> hey my grub's meny.lst suddenly removed my windows xp
[02:11] <POORtland> kinda wanna setup like a network thing where i can either access it from a xp comp or others via internet
[02:12] <crazney> sethk: well.. this is a precompiled ubuntu kernel
[02:12] <toya__> can anyone help me?
[02:12] <no_so_sudo_smart> just getting the major "opps" 's out of the way now
[02:12] <apokryphos> john: heh. Just logout of that and restart X, then (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[02:12] <selinium> Aviatrixie, if you type the nickname it changes colour, and maybe beeps depending on your setup
[02:12] <Linfan> i dont see system monitor
[02:12] <crazney> although previous ones worked fine.. so i'm guessing it's something that has changed in the kernel config.
[02:12] <POORtland> put like 500gigs in it
[02:12] <sklav> POORtland, you want to run services by the souns of it
[02:12] <sklav> look into apache and vsftpd
[02:12] <pashaw> no_so_sudo_smart,   your spamming the people that need help off the screen :(     good to see you though
[02:12] <Aviatrixie> good news... I convinced my father (75 years old) to switch to Ubuntu. I'm going to install it and show him how to use it. His XP is history.  ;)
[02:12] <sethk> crazney, but a different version.  It may not be related to that, but I have seen exactly that behavior when those kernel options were set differently.
[02:12] <sklav> apache = webserver vsftp is an ftp server
[02:12] <selinium> hi apokryphos, meery Christmas and a happy new year! Sorry it's a bit late....
[02:12] <Aviatrixie> Thanks selinium
[02:13] <john> apokryphos, will it be ok that i did the reconfigure in full gnome?
[02:13] <apokryphos> selinium: no worries. Happy belated to you too :)
[02:13] <crazney> sethk: right..
[02:13] <Linfan> is it a good idea to de-activate computer activity?
[02:13] <apokryphos> john: no problem
[02:13] <sklav> john it should be ok
[02:13] <crazney> sethk: and i guess you don't know any way of overcoming it short of compiling my own?
[02:13] <POORtland> so how should i go about this
[02:13] <mojo_> Linfan: you can also right-click on a panel (top or bottom stripes), and add to panel and choose the system monitor.  It will give you colorful graphs running there all the time for cpu, disk, memory, swap, and load.  you can config which meters show.
[02:13] <POORtland> skalv can i pm?
[02:13] <sklav> well u need to install ubuntu
[02:13] <sethk> crazney, no, but since it may not be related to that at all, the first thing to do is check it out.
[02:13] <john> apokryphos, and to restart x?
[02:13] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   dont do that till you are experienced enough to fix it for him      you might leave him hanging
[02:13] <foampeace> hello, how do you make debfoster run after apt-get or dpkg?
[02:13] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, can I somehow from the install cd, pick to install from the internet rather than using the packages on the cd?
[02:13] <sklav> sure POORtland
[02:13] <selinium> Aviatrixie, no problems! Just as an aside, if you type the first few letter of a nick and hit the TAB key, it auto completes it for you!
[02:13] <sklav> pm me
[02:14] <crazney> sethk: to check it out means i need to build my own?
[02:14] <Aviatrixie> I spent 3 hours today updating dad's virus defs, windows updates, adaware defs, running scans... it's absolutely rediculous.
[02:14] <apokryphos> john: yup. Logout of gnome and ctrl+alt+backspace after
[02:14] <apokryphos> !tell Aquatopia about install
[02:14] <john> apokryphos, k
[02:14] <sethk> crazney, no, in console mode, see if hde is really hda, and v.v.
[02:14] <sklav> ! tell sklav about dfsbuild
[02:14] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, sklav
[02:14] <john> apokryphos, failed to start the x server
[02:14] <sethk> crazney, if fdisk is available, you can use fdisk -l to do that
[02:14] <apokryphos> john: what's the error?
[02:14] <apokryphos> john: btw, you're on breezy, right?
[02:15] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, I just read that and it has nothing on what I'm asking about. I know how to do a netboot, which this network card is unable to do.
[02:15] <crazney> sethk: but for that i need to boot into that kernel, which i can't do
[02:15] <selinium> Aviatrixie, does your father use the internet for anything other than internet, document stuff?
[02:15] <purpleheart_USMC> can someone telll me where i can find a list of linux compatable hardware?
[02:15] <sethk> crazney, you said you boot the kernel and it drops you into a shell
[02:15] <crazney> sethk: and changing the root=/dev/hde1 to root=/dev/hda1 doesn't work
[02:15] <crazney> sethk: well yeah,
[02:15] <john> apokryphos, yeah.....when i go to diagnose it says fatal server error: no screens found
[02:15] <apokryphos> Aquatopia: you unfortunately can't do one just like debian's (I think they're hoping for that to be possible in the future). The only other install options are listed there.
[02:15] <crazney> it loads the kernel, then i guess when the kernel tries to moun the fs or something
[02:15] <crazney> *mount
[02:15] <Linfan> in memory and swap it says user memory of 725.5 does that mean it is only using 217mb of my ram? also any reason why my cpu is running at 22%
[02:15] <Aquatopia> apokryphos, ok, thank you
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, right.
[02:16] <DRAGON_Ultra> you all can go back to windows if this linux stuff is to hard for you lol
[02:16] <apokryphos> john: curious. It'd often say that if it didn't configure X appropriately (or one of the three first things I mentioned wasn't in place).
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, really there are only two possibilities, either it has a problem with the IDE hardware, or with the file system type
[02:16] <crazney> sethk: and in that shell, the only /dev/hd* that exists is /dev/hdb which is the cdrom
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, the only one that exists, or the only one that is mounted?
[02:16] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... I'm a recently medically retired airline pilot (big jets), former vice president of the Pittsburgh Users Group, and familiar with Windows, Mac, and a bunch of older OS's, starting with the TI99. I love PC's, but I'm an absolute Linux newb. I am a quick study tho.  ;)
[02:16] <john> apokryphos, what were the first things u mentioned?
[02:16] <sethk> crazney, although, either way, it is finding the ide hardware
[02:16] <crazney> sethk: the only one that has a device file
[02:17] <crazney> the cdrom is connected to the other ide controller
[02:17] <Fred> is there a way i can clear the dns cache on my system?
[02:17] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   youll have alot of fun then  for sure
[02:17] <apokryphos> john: (i) no nvidia card set up, (ii) not in xorg.conf file listed, (iii) drivers not installed.
[02:17] <sethk> crazney, if it is hdb, then you know which device is hda to the kernel
[02:17] <Aviatrixie> So I will come here with questions until I understand it all
[02:17] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   good plan
[02:17] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... so far I love everything about linux
[02:17] <sethk> crazney, I think I would try connecting hde to the primary master (hda), and use a root=, and see if it boots
[02:18] <john> apokryphos, its a fairly fresh installation so shall i just cut my losses and reinstall ubuntu?
[02:18] <sethk> crazney, not as a fix, but as a test
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: try a sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[02:18] <crazney> sethk: yeah ok. will try. ta.
[02:18] <mlalkaka> hi everyone
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: nope, you shouldn't really ever need to reinstall.
[02:18] <flashback> any know vmware
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: could you pastebin the output of lspci|grep -i nvidia ?
[02:18] <john> apokryphos, that from the prompt i am left with?
[02:18] <apokryphos> john: sure
[02:19] <mlalkaka> how can i determine what type of RAM is installed on my computer? (e.g. pc2100, pc2700, pc3200, ...)
[02:19] <john> ok its still saying that it has no legacy or legacy dev installed
[02:19] <crouton> mlalkaka: short of opening it up and taking a peek?
[02:19] <dragonbyte> cafuego: no go...didn't work...do you know how to get yenta to load before usb?
[02:20] <pashaw> mlalkaka,   likely your bios  will report it
[02:20] <Aviatrixie> pashaw I called Verizon when I signed up last month and told them of my plans to migrate to linux. The seemed oblivious and said they do not support it, but they hear there are workarounds
[02:20] <Razor-X> does anyone here have experience with mpd? (not the disorder)
[02:20] <POORtland> i guess i cant pm u sklav
[02:20] <apokryphos> john: hm, ok, nevermind.
[02:20] <crazney> sethk: well that works (as i expected)
[02:20] <dereks_> does anyone have problems with banshee always crashing with dapper
[02:20] <crazney> sethk: so i guess the kernel has problems with my ide controller..
[02:20] <apokryphos> john: pastebin that lspci output if possible
[02:20] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   they ment  dont call them for help is all
[02:20] <apokryphos> john: if you want to get back into gnome with nv (which is good, but no 3d), just edit xorg.conf and switch "nvidia" to "nv"
[02:20] <john> apokryphos, how could i do that without gnome?
[02:20] <sethk> crazney, that's my guess, yes, but you can fix it with a rebuild, so it isn't too terrible.  inconvenient
[02:20] <POORtland> does ubuntu boot from startup?
[02:20] <Aviatrixie> pashaw I figured that
[02:21] <Aviatrixie> so I will come here for help ;)
[02:21] <dragonbyte> anyone know how to get yenta to load before usb in ubuntu?
[02:21] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   DSL right>?
[02:21] <crazney> sethk: yeah, yuck though..
[02:21] <oxez> In which package can I find 'gtkmm.h' ?
[02:22] <apokryphos> oxez: libgtkmm2.0-dev
[02:22] <sethk> crazney, put in a report, maybe they'll fix it before the release
[02:22] <Aviatrixie> pashaw, yes... dsl... it's ok, but I'm 2 miles from the nearest co... only pulling 1.5. I'll prolly switch to comcast when the contract is up.
[02:22] <john> apokryphos, think im just going to reinstall, im too much of a windows user for anything else lol
[02:22] <apokryphos> oxez: you can use apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com for things like that
[02:22] <oxez> apokryphos: I already have it installed
[02:22] <apokryphos> oxez: then you have it
[02:22] <oxez> apokryphos: but g++ keep telling me that <gtkmm.h> doesn't exist
[02:23] <apokryphos> john: it wouldn't really help
[02:23] <john> apokryphos, and install the nvidia drivers fresh and make sure I dont install the wrong ones
[02:23] <no_so_sudo_smart> www.winehq.com
[02:23] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,  nothing wrong with DSL   but good to have choices
[02:23] <crazney> sethk: yeah, about to do that.
[02:23] <john> apokryphos, u dont htink?
[02:23] <mlalkaka> crouton, pashaw: well what are some diagnostic tools that tell me some info on ram?
[02:23] <apokryphos> oxez: ls /usr/include/gtkmm-2.0 ?
[02:23] <john> apokryphos, no harm in trying
[02:23] <apokryphos> john: you'd have to do the same stuff again, really.
[02:24] <crouton> mlalkaka: not sure
[02:24] <Linfan> i downloaded the latest firefox but i dont know how to install it
[02:24] <apokryphos> john: I'm devoutly against reinstalls, but Windoze users do seem to like it 8)
[02:24] <crazney> ok.. another problem.. which i've had before on another computer but i can't rembmer how to fix it.. for some reason ctrl-alt-f1 etc isn't working to change to a console from x..
[02:24] <john> apokryphos,  i would? but I thought my installing the wrong drivers in the first place has caused this
[02:24] <crazney> anyone know about that one?
[02:24] <Linfan> do i need to download it of the terminal or synaptic
[02:24] <no_so_sudo_smart> how do i make an apt-get installed program to be recognized in the applications menu? i tried the applications menu editor but wine isn't in there
[02:24] <oxez> apokryphos: I have it
[02:24] <apokryphos> Linfan: it's a deb?
[02:24] <ITSa341> bbiab, reboot time
[02:24] <Razor-X> Windows users like reboots a lot too :P
[02:24] <pashaw> mlalkaka,   thats not a common task   if bios doesnt report it  youll have to remove them and google the model numbers
[02:24] <Linfan> firefox-1.5.tar.gz
[02:24] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... after 2 decades of dial-up, even 1.5 down is wonderful. But a friend of mine pulls nearly 6.0 down with comcast cable, and she's 15 miles out in the sticks.
[02:24] <john> apokryphos, is there anyway to just rip all of the video drivers out and the x config?
[02:25] <kakei> Razor-X, yes  21:25:03 up 4 days,  8:50,  2 users,  load average: 0.93, 1.31, 1.32
[02:25] <kakei>  :D
[02:25] <john> apokryphos, and set it all up from scratch
[02:25] <apokryphos> Razor-X: while linux users have competitions on uptime ;-)
[02:25] <POORtland> is bittorrent any faster on linux?
[02:25] <Razor-X> apokryphos: we just had one yesterday
[02:25] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB beat my current uptime out of the water
[02:25] <flashback> can anyone help
[02:25] <sklav> john, if not mistaken you can run dpkg --reconfigure xorg
[02:25] <djm62> POORtland: no reason to be
[02:25] <Linfan> i dont know the right command to download firefox
[02:25] <sklav> or something similar to it
[02:25] <apokryphos> john: you can remove that pack (nvidia-glx), and the dpkg-reconfigure  is a full reconfigure of your xorg.conf file, so....
[02:25] <Razor-X> 17:22:36 up 17 days,  5:02,  8 users,  load average: 0.20, 0.11, 0.09
[02:25] <oxez> apokryphos: g++ still tell me that gtkmm.h doesn't exist..
[02:26] <djm62> POORtland: linux can not make the internet itself faster (although some things have been reported to be a bit smoother)
[02:26] <apokryphos> Razor-X: what was the record? A person I saw in #kde still has the record (from what I've seen) with 360 days
[02:26] <Aviatrixie> pashaw... Verizon told me their DSL could pull down up to 3.0 meg download, and promised at least 1.5. I'm at the bottom now.
[02:26] <djm62> 360 days is nowhere near the record....
[02:26] <apokryphos> oxez: hm, annoying. It must be looking for it somewhere else.
[02:26] <Razor-X> djm62: in my experience, TCP is implemented much better in Linux
[02:26] <Razor-X> yeah, it has to be some number of years
[02:26] <apokryphos> djm62: not of all-time, of course -- from waht I've seen on IRC>
[02:26] <john> so if i remove nvidia glx
[02:27] <Razor-X> hah, I'm going at a pathetic 17 days :P
[02:27] <sklav> the most uptime i have heard of is something like a 3 years
[02:27] <john> and re run xserver reconfig
[02:27] <Razor-X> because of that, I refuse to restart to add a PS/2 device
[02:27] <sklav> on linux
[02:27] <djm62> although how uptime works with hardware suspend functions
[02:27] <john> apokryphos, and then install glx again
[02:27] <sklav> and 8 - 10 years on some type of bsd
[02:27] <flashback> f
[02:27] <flashback> f
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <apokryphos> I've heard stories on the internet of several BSD and Linux servers going for a few years, too
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   bummer
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <flashback> vv
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <flashback> v
[02:27] <apokryphos> john: yup, that's it.
[02:27] <oxez> apokryphos: oh, nvm, I forgot to add parameters to g++, sorry for wasting your time
[02:27] <djm62> (I'm sure my ipaq went more than a year without being formally rebooted, just suspended every time I wasn't using it)
[02:27] <apokryphos> oxez: no worries
[02:28] <Evil_Whisper> you get that msg apokryphos?
[02:28] <john> apokryphos, do i need to stop gdm?
[02:28] <john> or is that just gnome?
[02:29] <sklav> anybody have a link on how to build my own custom iso of ubuntu?
[02:29] <apokryphos> john: shouldn't need to, but might be a good idea.
[02:30] <sklav> john reboot if your able to
[02:30] <john> apokryphos, im in with nv
[02:30] <john> apokryphos, so i install glx again
[02:30] <sklav> yes john
[02:30] <sklav> and then make sure to run sudo nvidia-glx enable on a command line
[02:31] <pashaw> sklav,   linux format magazine   LFX74   christmas issue has a Build your own Howto
[02:31] <Fred> how do i force a reload of the network config?
[02:31] <apokryphos> Fred: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0
[02:31] <sklav> pashaw, is it based on debian or just using sources?
[02:31] <Fred> apokryphos, i cant "ifup" remotely tho can i?
[02:32] <pashaw> sklav,  knoppix debian  mentions ubuntu  i believe
[02:32] <sureshot> Hello can someon please advise me on what software to use that is compatible with a ulead tv 2000 pro tv card
[02:32] <djm62> Fred: at +2m ifup eth0 ;)
[02:32] <sklav> Fred, you could if you script it in crontab "Not Recommended"
[02:32] <sureshot> to watch movis
[02:32] <sureshot> movise
[02:32] <john> Sklav, do I enable glx before or after i reconfigure xserver for nvidia?
[02:32] <djm62> Fred: assuming you have the at command
[02:32] <apokryphos> Fred: it isn't I'm afraid
[02:32] <apokryphos> hm
[02:32] <Fred> the what command?
[02:33] <sklav> john after you edit xorg.conf and replace the line nv with nvidia
[02:33] <djm62> Fred: the "at" command which allows you to do things at some time in the future
[02:33] <sklav> you run the command also make sure kernel-modules-unsupported is installed
[02:33] <Fred> i typed "at" and it said "garbled time"
[02:33] <djm62> Fred: I believe the *BSD version allows you to have done things in the past, too
[02:33] <sklav> for your running kernel by the way
[02:33] <john> Sklav, how do i edit xorg.conf, can i open the file? if so how?
[02:34] <djm62> Fred: the syntax is at <time> <command>
[02:34] <ssstormy> hey
[02:34] <djm62> Fred: man at
[02:34] <sklav> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <ssstormy> or I should say: "hello guys"
[02:34] <Fred> so i could do at +1m ifdown eth0 and then at +2m ifup eth0 ?
[02:34] <sklav> not usually required
[02:34] <Determinist> john, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <sklav> but if you have to that is how
[02:34] <djm62> Fred: do the ifup with the time delay first, then ifdown manually?
[02:35] <Fred> well apokryphos said to do down then up :/
[02:35] <ITSa341> SUCCESS   I got it working finally
[02:35] <ssstormy> I'm running a SID release of mysql5.0 (I know it's unsupported and all) but is there a configuration setting to close the ports to te world?  My mysql server is only running on localhost; the port is only open when I scan localhost
[02:35] <djm62> Fred: but you don't have to type the commands in that order...
[02:35] <john> ok i edited xorg.conf
[02:35] <Fred> oh yeh, true
[02:35] <Fred> thanks :)
[02:35] <hd420> ssstormy: bugger, mate
[02:35] <john> now where do i go?
[02:35] <hd420> my apache problem still remains
[02:35] <ssstormy> hd420, it's not a config option?
[02:36] <hd420> I don't know
[02:36] <ssstormy> hd420, what's your issue?
[02:36] <sureshot> what it a good program to run with my movie card
[02:36] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Doesn't the mysql.user table control who has access to what? You can contrain all users to only be allowed from host "localhost".
[02:36] <hd420> as I use postgresql or Oracle
[02:36] <hd420> trying to install the apache atp, getting error 1
[02:36] <Goldfisch> sureshot: I use mythtv.
[02:36] <sklav> john u need to logoff and the hit crtl+alt+backspace
[02:36] <john> sklav, i have changed nv to nvidia bud, now where do I go
[02:36] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, and that would stop the port from opening?
[02:36] <hd420> err... apache apt, I mean
[02:36] <john> sklav, what about enabling glx?
[02:36] <ssstormy> hd420, try it from the command line
[02:36] <ITSa341> <-- signed into AOL and it all works!!   only took 3 days  LOL
[02:36] <sklav> yes enable it first
[02:36] <ssstormy> hd420, it will give you debug output
[02:37] <sklav> and then do last step i mentionned
[02:37] <hd420> ssstormy: how?
[02:37] <sureshot> goldfisch do you have a tv capture card
[02:37] <hd420> apt-get install apache
[02:37] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: If you are running a service on a machine, like mysql on 3309, (or whatever), the port is open. If you are behind a firewall and don't forward the port, then it is closed to everyone on the other side.
[02:37] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ?
[02:37] <Fred> djm62, i get some odd stuff... parse error. Last token seen: m
[02:37] <sklav> ok john do the following
[02:37] <sklav> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:37] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, it's forwarded.  but I scan localhost and it's open
[02:37] <mac_> is it possible in (k)ubuntu to have a given font be available as both, anti-aliased and non-AA?  For example, for kword I'd like to use AA version of Arial, but for general usage in KDE/GNOME, such as menus and the interface, I'd like to use the non-AA version of Arial...  can this be done?
[02:37] <ssstormy> I scan <IP_ADDRESS> (my wlan adaptor)
[02:37] <ssstormy> and it's closed
[02:37] <Goldfisch> sureshot: Of course (or I wouldn't be running much of anything, ehh?) I have a Jetways BT878 one.
[02:37] <ssstormy> hd420, yeah
[02:37] <djm62> Fred: I don't recall the time specification... + something
[02:38] <Aviatrixie> pashaw, anyway, I picked up a nice beige box at the local thrift for $35us... an old server for a local ad agency ( They didn't slick their hard drive, silly humans LOL) It's a pentium 2 266 on an MS6111 MB (oddball Intell chipset, but tomshardware gave it a fab review back in 97) with a 10 gig hd, a 4 meg pci vid card, a pci nic, and and an ISA modem. Now... as a reasonably intelligently person BUT a total Linux newb... Am I
[02:38] <Aviatrixie>  biting off more than I can chew right now?
[02:38] <hd420> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:38] <sureshot> ogoldfisch i have a ulead tv 2000 pro with fm tuner
[02:38] <ssstormy> hd420, or apache2.  Also, you can cd /var/cache/apt/archive and do dpkg -i packagename.  the cache for all of apt's downloaded packages is there
[02:38] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me what a good AUDIO CONVERSION tool for linux is, IE FLAC to MP3 ?
[02:38] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: You mean the firewall-router between yourself and the world is forwarding traffic to your mysql server?
[02:38] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, you bet
[02:38] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Is that your intention?
[02:38] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, and I know it's working cause apache and ftp is working
[02:39] <djm62> Fred: at now + 3 minutes .....
[02:39] <ssstormy> yeah I want it to forward the 3306 port to my computer
[02:39] <tellim> hi all, i have libdvdcss2 installed as instructed here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback  ... but cant play any dvds.... xine error says vtsn=-1,domain=2 .... anyone have any idea what might be wrong?
[02:39] <sklav> ssstormy, are u scanning internally ?
[02:39] <ssstormy> sklav, yes
[02:39] <sklav> if so it will obviously show up
[02:39] <Fred> thanks djm62
[02:39] <zak> what is the package for X development - headers, etc.?
[02:39] <hd420> same error
[02:39] <existance> I just reinstalled XP and it either wrote over GRUB or shoved it out of the way, how can i fix it?
[02:39] <ssstormy> I scan "localhost" (<IP_ADDRESS>) and it's open
[02:39] <pashaw> Aviatrixie,   that would make a good personal server  but not desktop   unless you set it up as a thin client
[02:39] <psusi> Aviatrixie, you might want to get a slightly more recent machine... but the real answer to your question is "how bad do you want to get that working"?
[02:39] <john> sklav, it wouldnt let me enable, said i needed to change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf but i already did and saved it
[02:39] <Fred> djm62, parse error. Last token seen: ifup
[02:39] <sklav> ssstormy, that is normal
[02:39] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: There are two ways to forward traffic, either your entire mysql server has been placed in the firewalls' DMZ, or you configured it to forward the mysql port. What is your setup?
[02:40] <ssstormy> I scan "<IP_ADDRESS>" (my net adaptor, and what the network sees me as) and it's not there
[02:40] <psusi> existance, reinstall grub
[02:40] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, just port forwarding
[02:40] <sklav> john, is the file u edited xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ?
[02:40] <existance> psusi, I'd have to do that from a live CD though right?
[02:40] <john> sklav, yes
[02:40] <ssstormy> hd420, if you read though there should be error output
[02:40] <ssstormy> besides "error 1"
[02:40] <john> sklav, ive rebooted
[02:40] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: If you don't want anyone other than localhost user's getting to that, than remove that port for the forwarding list.
[02:40] <pashaw> Aviatrixie, cool deal tho   now you can learn Ubuntu  and server stuff
[02:40] <sklav> ok john im confused somewhat give me a sec
[02:41] <psusi> existance, I think you can do it from the setup cd too... if you choose an advanced setup, you can choose only to install grub, then quit
[02:41] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, other way round.  I want the world to have access to my mysql server
[02:41] <hd420> ssstormy: dpkg: error processing apache (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:41] <sklav> u rebooted the system or X
[02:41] <ssstormy> hd420, read before that
[02:41] <existance> psusi, hmm, I'll try it, thanks for the help
[02:41] <hd420> Unpacking replacement apache ...Setting up apache (1.3.33-8) ...
[02:41] <regplus> what is command to copy Samba folder from desktop to /etc folder?
[02:41] <hd420> that's all dpkg wrote
[02:42] <djm62> Fred: you'll need root access (sudo -s) then do at +3 minutes <enter> then put in the commands you want done
[02:42] <ssstormy> before the error!? that's werid
[02:42] <ssstormy> try apache2
[02:42] <dragonbyte> does anyone know how i can get yenta socket to load with a different irq?
[02:42] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Then what is the matter? You are having issues with people connecting to it?
[02:42] <pashaw> regplus,   why is samba on the desktop?
[02:42] <djm62> Fred: been a while since I used at.... I think that's the final answer
[02:42] <sklav> john, make sure there is no typo
[02:42] <regplus> its backup
[02:42] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, yes.  cause the port is not open for remote users
[02:42] <Fred> ahhhhh ok thanks a lot djm62 :D
[02:43] <regplus> so I want overwrite current Samba folder which is in etc folder
[02:43] <john> sklav, there doesnt seem to be
[02:43] <sklav> it should look like this
[02:43] <sklav> Driver		"nvidia"
[02:43] <john> sklav, i rebooted but back to same prob as before
[02:43] <sklav> in the proper section
[02:43] <pashaw> regplus,   why not just copy over the config files
[02:43] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, my router is all set up nice, and my firewall too, but the only place port 3306 is open is on localhost, not on my network adaptor, thus no one can access the server
[02:43] <john> sklav, yes it is like that but after reboot i get the failed blu escreen again
[02:43] <regplus> I can not use copy/paste because it wont let me
[02:43] <sklav> john which nvidia card do you have?
[02:43] <Fred> djm62, once i've typed the command(s), how do i get out of the edit thing?
[02:44] <pashaw> regplus,    you'd use mv    but   dont blame me
[02:44] <djm62> Fred: ctrl-D
[02:44] <Fred> ctrl+c doesnt save it
[02:44] <Fred> ah thanks :D
[02:44] <john> sklav, gf6600gt
[02:44] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Is this some iptables configuration? I don't understand what you mean by the port being closed. The firewall is defining what is open and closed, and you just explained to me how the firewall is open.
[02:44] <sklav> hum i have the 6200
[02:44] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, well I disabled all firewall activity and it didn't help
[02:44] <sklav> and it works
[02:44] <ssstormy> the port was still closed
[02:44] <john> sklav, im still thinking a reinstall may be beneficial
[02:45] <Determinist> john, i've set up my 6600GT and it works like a charm, what seems to be the problem? sorry, following with one eye here
[02:45] <john> sklav, it will determine if it is the drivers or the card
[02:45] <sklav> john have u installed the kernel-unsupported modules?
[02:45] <regplus> pashaw, mv /home/user/samba /etc    ?
[02:45] <john> sklav, dont think so
[02:45] <Aviatrixie> pashaw, thin thin client is exactly what I'm thinking. I used MSN dial-up for years and got webtv free on thier MSN One Plan. MSN sucks as a primary means of accessing the web, but is superb as a way to surf. I used it for years, and only unplugged it a few weeks ago when I bought my new house and the TV was too far from the damn (small Linux... which I love!) phone jack. So, I was going to give it to him, but then I got to t
[02:45] <Aviatrixie> hinking of migrating him to linux. So... here I am.
[02:45] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: How do you know this? Are you trying to connect from an external IP address via port 3306?
[02:45] <sklav> john u would need them
[02:45] <ssstormy> yes, that is my goal
[02:45] <sklav> use synaptic to check
[02:46] <john> Determinist, get failed to start xserver blue screen
[02:46] <Aviatrixie> oop... MSN = MSNTV
[02:46] <john> sklav, what do i do in synaptic?
[02:46] <apokryphos> john: could you pastebin the output of lspci|grep -i nvidia  ?
[02:46] <apokryphos> might be useful
[02:46] <Determinist> john, right, it happens sometimes. did you download the nvidia driver from their site and installed it or did you use the binary package that comes with ubuntu from the repository?
[02:46] <sklav> which kernel are u running?
[02:47] <sklav> type uname -a in a command line
[02:47] <Aviatrixie> For myself, I'm thinking of building a flexat for my tx
[02:48] <sklav> apokryphos, it might be linux-restricted-modules is not installed
[02:48] <Determinist> john, go with sklav's method, if that doesnt work gimme a holler, i'll show you how i did it. i dont want to interfere with their way in the middle
[02:48] <bk> can someone help me.  i don't have the 'Add/Remove Programs' in the applications menu anymore.
[02:48] <john> apokryphos,  will do pastebin hang on
[02:48] <apokryphos> sklav: shouldn't really matter
[02:48] <Determinist> bk, system tools->menu editor, just check it's box there and voila
[02:48] <bk> it's not in the menu editor, i checked.
[02:49] <john> Determinist, i used the one in repository
[02:49] <sklav> apokryphos, according to the restricted modules nvidia is a module of it
[02:49] <Determinist> bk, not sure then, sorry
[02:49] <sklav> or required to get nvidia working
[02:49] <Markus_Needs_Hel> i'm trying to recover grub manually after reinstalling windows
[02:49] <foampeace> anyone played stratagus
[02:49] <apokryphos> sklav: you only need that when you're getting/running the driver from their site I believe. If nvidia-glx needed it, it'd pull it in.
[02:49] <Evil_Whisper> back apokryphos
[02:49] <tellim> Markus_Needs_Hel, you might try the ultimate book cd... can help you recover from something like that
[02:49] <tellim> er, ultimate BOOT cd
[02:49] <Determinist> john, i've used the binary from nvidia... so sorry, go with sklav unless that doesnt work and i'll show you how it's done instead. btw, there's an excellent newbie how-to on ubuntuforums for this method.
[02:49] <jsubl2> Markus_Needs_Hel: boot the install cd and type rescue... follow the prompts
[02:49] <apokryphos> Evil_Whisper: 'llo
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> well i just went with the live cd
[02:50] <sklav> but if he is using a k7 kernel after pulling in glx im not sure it does
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> and now i'm using terminal in ubuntu live
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> i'm in grub
[02:50] <sklav> but i could be wrong
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> but it gives me an error
[02:50] <leather_n_luv> anyone here write scripts?
[02:50] <Markus_Needs_Hel> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[02:50] <Milk_> has anyone here run into this error "Special Device does not exist."?
[02:51] <john> apokryphos, its in pastebin
[02:51] <dereks_> does anyone have problems with banshee always crashing with dapper
[02:51] <apokryphos> john: link?
[02:51] <leather_n_luv> anyone here know how to use 'sed'?
[02:51] <Markus_Needs_Hel> my ubuntu partition is listed in fstab as hde2
[02:51] <ubuntu> hello
[02:51] <Markus_Needs_Hel> so i entered it as hd4,1
[02:51] <ubuntu> how do i install firefox 1.5
[02:51] <ice> anyone have flashfxp and wine ?
[02:51] <ice> got a ?
[02:51] <workbean_ubuntu> has anybody noticed that Ubuntu's time lags when it's ran in VMware
[02:52] <apokryphos> ubuntu: check the wiki -- there's a guide.
[02:52] <john> apokryphos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6291
[02:52] <ice> no one answering at winehq  lol
[02:52] <foampeace> how come firefox isnt in the repository yet
[02:52] <ssstormy> ubuntu, you can also use one of the SID reps
[02:52] <ssstormy> SID has firefox1.5
[02:52] <regplus> Where to read how to copy files via terminal?
[02:52] <leather_n_luv> ice: did you try a dual boot to windows to use flashFXP?
[02:52] <djm62> foampeace: firefox is, but new software does not get put into the stable repos
[02:52] <ice> no using wine
[02:52] <ssstormy> regplus, type "man cp"
[02:52] <foampeace> ubuntu: maybe you can find a firefox deb package for breezy
[02:52] <apokryphos> john: looks like your problem :)
[02:53] <john> apokryphos, bearing in mind i changed nvidia back to nv to boot into gnome
[02:53] <foampeace> djm62: its not stable?
[02:53] <djm62> I guess the breezy version of firefox will be pretty much obsolete by the time dapper comes out ;)
[02:53] <apokryphos> john: that wouldn't change the output of that command. It's saying X/Linux doesn't recognise the card properly. "Unknown Device"
[02:53] <leather_n_luv> i need some help from someone that knows how to use 'sed'
[02:53] <ssstormy> djm62, when's dapper scheduled for release?
[02:53] <foampeace> dapper?
[02:53] <djm62> foampeace: the repos are stable. that means no new software, only security fixes.
[02:54] <john> apokryphos, should I go with determinist and the nvidia site drivers?
[02:54] <djm62> ssstormy: april
[02:54] <foampeace> djm62: dapper is the next release?
[02:54] <john> apokryphos, if he is still here that is
[02:54] <djm62> ssstormy: by which time firefox 1.0.6 will be completely unable to render webpages
[02:54] <apokryphos> john: it would indeed work if it was done properly, yes.
[02:54] <Determinist> john, i'm here :)
[02:54] <foampeace> is ubuntu ahead of debian in development?
[02:54] <john> Determinist, yey, please save me! ha ha
[02:54] <Amaranth> foampeace: on some things
[02:55] <apokryphos> like KDE ;-)
[02:55] <Amaranth> foampeace: it syncs with sid for a couple months plus adds the latest GNOME, KDE, and X stuff
[02:55] <john> Determinist, direct moi
[02:55] <leather_n_luv> is there a channel for scripting?
[02:55] <tellim> can anybody tell me what repo to use to get libdvdcss2 for breezy?