[08:57] <Tesssa> i dont have a lap top mine is a amd64 quad desktop
[08:57] <oriumpor> it'll probably error
[08:57] <mipz0r> actually, Ubuntu detects more hardware
[08:57] <oriumpor> but the error will likely tell you what filesystem to mount it as
[08:57] <mipz0r> Tesssa, so get a DVD and put inside the drive, do a live install
[08:57] <eL_pSycHo> oriumpor, cybersplice, i see it there in Gparted..
[08:57] <mipz0r> Tesssa, try it first, if you don't like it just throw the DVD away
[08:57] <Tesssa> thats the point 9.10 will not install
[08:57] <mipz0r> why not
[08:57] <mipz0r> what happens?
[08:58] <mipz0r> you can also do a 9.04 installation and later you can do an upgrade through update manager :)
[08:58] <sobersabre> hi. does WiFi card named "Intel WiFi Link 5100" work with Ubuntu 9.10 natively ?
[08:58] <mipz0r> just in case u got a 9.04 DVD hanging around ;)
[08:58] <synical> ell ell all
[08:58] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: Is it NTFS?
[08:58] <synical> ello ello*
[08:58] <Tesssa> it gests as far as the partion manager ans that is just blanc white box and nothinfg else
[08:58] <synical> damn i can't type tonight =P
[08:58] <maje> sobersabre: Yes, out of the box. I have the same, and it works without me doing anything besides installing ubuntu
[08:58] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: its fat16
[08:59] <maje> sobresabre: If you want to check, run ubuntu 9.10 on a live CD, it works just as well there
[08:59] <oriumpor> take it away CS
[08:59] <oriumpor> :P
[08:59] <Tesssa> i have been trying for days
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Tesssa: Just to give you an ugly text based interface to complain about you should try the alternate install CD
[08:59] <synical> has anyone here ever used a Kingston usb pen drive on ubuntu?
[08:59] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: Test it on a Windows machine or something, if you have one. Could be the FAT is corrupt.
[08:59] <oriumpor> ok
[08:59] <sobersabre> maje: thanks.
[08:59] <Jordan_U> !alternate | Tesssa
[09:00] <Tesssa> no mipz0r it wont even upgrade
[09:00] <oriumpor> or you could try fscking it, and mounting it by hand ;)
[09:00] <mipz0r> Tesssa, hmm that's weird
[09:00] <dambarp> how do you instal vlc in karmic ?
[09:00] <mipz0r> Tesssa, you know, there are PCs that Windows 7 won't install or upgrade too :)
[09:00] <dambarp> i mean the latest one
[09:00] <MuLLeR> hello, is there a tool for backing up all user system settings and files, to move them to another PC?
[09:00] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: i dont wanna restart........... can i just format it in gparted?
[09:00] <Tesssa>  it works on mine
[09:00] <napster> DaDa|Urka: HI
[09:00] <KerrMD> Is there a networking guru in channel?
[09:00] <Tesssa> and mine works perfect in 9.04
[09:01] <mrwoody> hi *. does anyone know why after upgradign to 9.10, any video is weird (like greenish or negative)... I get the problem in two different pc and all the softwares (mplayer, vlc, xine,...)
[09:01] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: You can if you like, yes.
[09:01] <mipz0r> Tesssa, but I believe you will figure out how to install it.. if you are not that lazy you will try out the alternate CD. It is a more basic installation, but don't worry it will work the same.
[09:01] <synical> dambarp: it should be under synaptic or the new add/remove programs
[09:01] <napster> Anybody know how to download updates for a computer from another one...?
[09:01] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: obviously, you will lose data. :)
[09:01] <mipz0r> it's for pcs that are known to give problems with Live CD installation
[09:01] <dambarp> synical: can i do like sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:01] <Tesssa> no i wont if i have i will wait for 10,04
[09:01] <dambarp> will it install the latest version of vlc ?
[09:02] <synical> I think you can
[09:02] <mipz0r> :) okay.. but it might not work again, since you might have an "alien" desktop that is not what the grand mass has... so only the 10.04 alternate CD might work
[09:02] <synical> im not sure myself because i normally use add/remove or synaptic
[09:02] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: it says i cant format becuase it contains a mounted system!!!! but i cant see it!
[09:02] <mipz0r> Tesssa, have you been using a DVD or a CD?
[09:02] <Lint> eL_pSycHo, umount?
[09:02] <napster> synical: Synaptic uses the backend apt...
[09:02] <Tesssa> and looking at the bug problems on here with 9.10 it has problems a live CD mipz0r
[09:03] <mipz0r> !wubi
[09:03] <napster> dambarp: Using synaptic and apt are the same
[09:03] <mipz0r> Tesssa, try Wubi
[09:03] <synical> the what now? Im a bit of a ubuntu n00b =P
[09:03] <dambarp> ok
[09:03] <Jordan_U> Tesssa: The alternate installer really isn't very different than the live installer, it's just ugly as sin.
[09:03] <dambarp> i c
[09:03] <dambarp> thank u
[09:03] <maje> to be frank, 9.10 isn't a smart upgrade for people who want a 100% stable install for a couple months...in my opinion
[09:03] <mipz0r> Tesssa, wubi installs linux from your windows.
[09:03] <Tesssa> god it doeant work
[09:03] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: do me a favour. ls /media/Media
[09:03] <napster> synical: :D
[09:03] <napster> dambarp: NP :)
[09:04] <Lint> Karmic has VLC 1.0.2
[09:04] <Tesssa> i am not in windows i am on 9.04 mioz0r#
[09:04] <mipz0r> maje: but there's no difference in a couple months unless you upgrade; the LiveCD is out and that's all
[09:04] <mipz0r> Tesssa, okay... why won't it upgrade?
[09:04] <dambarp> totem movie player doesn't play dvds :<
[09:04] <napster> Lint: Default...?
[09:04] <mipz0r> Tesssa, what's the error message
[09:04] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: lol.. thats my other partition on my hard drive.. its for my stuff..
[09:04] <dambarp> it gets stuck and quits
[09:04] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: sudo umount /dev/sdb
[09:04] <dambarp> so going for the vlc
[09:04] <cybersplice> er
[09:05] <cybersplice> sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[09:05] <Lint> napster, ?
[09:05] <maje> mipz0r: Yeah, I keep hearing that, but I'm one of those guys who believes software isn't stable for a while...even though Ubuntu is a lot different
[09:05] <mr_mojo> does anyone have any experience of setting up pptp here?
[09:05] <oriumpor> Tesssa: you're using a USB installer?
[09:05] <jdd> how to add an irc account ? Can't see where to place the channel name and password?
[09:05] <Tesssa> because it stops a the login window and correct name correct password but just goeas round in circles
[09:05] <napster> Lint: Vlc is at 1.0.2 right now. Is it in Karmic by default..?
[09:06] <Tesssa> no i am using a live cd
[09:06] <Lint> everything in Ubuntu is either in alpha stage or terribly obsolete
[09:06] <Lint> napster, yes
[09:06] <oriumpor> does the livecd pass the integrity check?
[09:06] <jarrod_> How can I change the boot order when I have XP and Ubuntu 9.10. There is no longer a menu.lst in /boot/grub/
[09:06] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: brb.. gonna boot into windows and see if it works there..
[09:06] <mipz0r> maje: actually there's already a testing phase, so ubuntu should be released without this "unstable" timing.. and it's widely used. Me, for example, used to use the Ubunt 9.10 beta... it was quite stable for me, despite my hardware issues (old PC, faulty memory and motherboard)
[09:06] <Lint> how can I change the resolution in Evince?
[09:06] <Tesssa> and no one has come u pwith a answer to that
[09:07] <napster> jarrod_: Karmic has grub 2
[09:07] <mipz0r> Tesssa, you can't login inside the live CD?
[09:07] <mipz0r> Tesssa, have you tryied logging in with username: ubuntu and no password?
[09:07] <jarrod_> napster: How can I edit that
[09:08] <maje> mipz0r: I apologize, I should have emphasize my "opinion" phrase...I typically upgrade during alphas and test, scrutinize, and then bork the heck out of everything...I only mean that I /personally/ don't find significant difference until later
[09:08] <Jordan_U> jarrod_: Do you want the windows entry to be first in the menu?
[09:08] <jarrod_> Jordan_U: Yes sir
[09:08] <maje> mipz0r: Although Ubuntu releases are almost always very good and stable for 99.5% of end users
[09:08] <Tesssa> the live cd locks up at the partition manager just get a blanc white page its the upgrade route that stops at the login window mipz0r
[09:09] <mipz0r> maje: yeah you are right, specially on production enviroments.. I did that on this desktop pc because it's: rather old, not used for any useful purposes besides web / mail / music :)
[09:09] <Lint> how can I change the resolution in Evince?!?
[09:09] <oriumpor> maje they must not be on the same hardware I'm on: Stock HP/IBM gear
[09:09] <mipz0r> it's my trash bin lol... it has some storage here so I use to let it sit for some hours downloading stuff instead of keeping my netbook hot...
[09:09] <oriumpor> Lint: you try Ctrl+shift++ or ctrl+shift+- ?
[09:09] <Tesssa> anyway breakfast so bye
[09:09] <mipz0r> Tesssa, SO, the problem is also with 9.04 ???
[09:09] <napster> jarrod_: Edit /etc/defaults/grub instead of menu.lst
[09:10] <Tesssa> god 9.04 works perfect
[09:10] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice, im on windows and the flash drive is formating.. fat32 this time.
[09:10] <openweek8> mipz0r the computer is showing some juck that scrolling on the screen ...even when i tried booting multiple times in recovery mode
[09:10] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: Good idea. Same problem?
[09:10] <mipz0r> Tesssa, want an advice? :)
[09:10] <Tesssa> whatever is wrong is in 9.10
[09:10] <jarrod_> napster: that is a blank file
[09:10] <balexandre> I guys ... my Ubunto 9.10 starts in console mode, is there any command to start in Visual mode?
[09:10] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice, gonna go back to ubuntu now and see if it works....
[09:10] <Tesssa> good advice not
[09:10] <balexandre> ops Hi guys :D
[09:10] <mipz0r> Tesssa, apt-get update. apt-get upgrade. apt-get dist-upgrade, and after that try update manager in GUI
[09:10] <jarrod_> napster: sorry, it was default not defaults
[09:10] <napster> jarrod_: I missed something...? Pls wait...!
[09:10] <mipz0r> if it doesn't work, let it sit for a while
[09:11] <Lint> balexandre, try 'gdm'
[09:11] <mipz0r> try it again in some weeks
[09:11] <cybersplice> balexandre: sudo killall gdm | gdm
[09:11] <mipz0r> 9.04 is stable, you don't need 9.10
[09:11] <cybersplice> er
[09:11] <cybersplice> balexandre: that is, sudo killallgdm && gdm
[09:11] <Jordan_U> jarrod_: "sudo ln -s /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober" and then "sudo update-grub" should do it, though you will end up with two entries for windows. A better solution than this can be done but I'm too tired right now :)
[09:11] <napster> jarrod_: Then run "update-grub"
[09:11] <Tesssa> mipz0r i havent a clue how to do that
[09:11] <mipz0r> Tesssa,  it might work for you later. if you do the upgrade now, you might get BIG HUGE VERY HARD HEADACHES
[09:11] <balexandre> thxs
[09:11] <napster> jarrod_: This will grub.conf file for defaults...!
[09:12] <Tesssa> now you are taking the mickey mipz0r
[09:12] <mipz0r> Tesssa, people are still deploying the stable version, since there's a lot of feedback from production enviroments right now (that's WHEN people start to talk ;)
[09:12] <Tesssa> so bye for now
 is it possible to roll back to 9.04
[09:12] <openweek8> since 9.10 is not working now
[09:12] <Jordan_U> jarrod_: Try asking in #grub if you want a better solution, though that will work and will not break when you upgrade kernel / grub packages
[09:12] <cybersplice> openweek8: No.
[09:12] <mipz0r> that's just a fact... :) people can't understand that ubuntu is not a static thing.. it's continuosly being upgraded and updated...
[09:12] <Ven]n> Hey.. I need to run the apt-get install patch command to be able to use patch. How can I find this in a .deb file? My computer is without internet. :p
[09:13] <napster> jarrod_: Jordan_U is right . Thats the channel...!
[09:13] <mipz0r> but windows and other stuff just get "updated" monthly or sometimes yearly
[09:13] <Ven]n> basically I need the patch program from the repositories
[09:13] <mipz0r> Ven]n, wait a sec
[09:14] <mipz0r> patchutils - Utilities to work with patches
[09:14] <Jordan_U> !offline | Ven]n
[09:14] <openweek8> ok is it possible to reinstall 9.10 or 9.04 without loosing data
[09:15] <fool__> openweek8: if you have /home on diff partition yes
[09:15] <DJones> openweek8: If you have your /home on a seperate partition, then yes its quite easy to do that, if not you will most likely need to backup and restore from the backup afterwards
[09:15] <pingpong> d
[09:16] <openweek8> fine am ready to do that.. but i want my system working
[09:16] <openweek8> DJones
[09:16] <openweek8> please can you guide me for that
[09:16] <Ven]n> Jordan_U, that link is down
[09:16] <eL_pSycHo> openweek8: how is it going? how is your problem?
[09:17] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: still cant see it in ubuntu
[09:17] <mipz0r> Ven]n, hey wait a sec.. I got another thing here
[09:17] <mipz0r> Ven]n, there's a package just called "patch" too
[09:17] <Ven]n> yeah
[09:17] <Ven]n> thats the one I want
[09:17] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: broken stick, or broken USB i guess.
[09:18] <eL_pSycHo> but i was just in windows 7 and it was working.. so no.. its not that.
 when i try to boot it shows some garbage scrolling in the screen so fast that i cannot read what is written
[09:18] <eL_pSycHo> i see it there when i do mount
[09:18] <rubberwall> canale italiano?
[09:18] <MikeChelen> !it | rubberwall
[09:19] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: its there.. mounted.. but i cant see.... what gives???
[09:19] <mipz0r> Filename: pool/main/p/patch/patch_2.5.9-5_i386.deb
[09:19] <mipz0r> that's it
[09:19] <mipz0r> Ven]n, Filename: pool/main/p/patch/patch_2.5.9-5_i386.deb
[09:19] <corigo> Got a GRUB 15 error after install and can't boot. advice is to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but there is no such file in my boot/grub folder
[09:19] <mipz0r> at least on 9.10
[09:19] <openweek8> I am planning to do a clean 9.04 install.. am scareed to install 9.10now.. alas all my work would be lost... is it possible to back up atleast my docments or somehow recover data .. i dont have a /home in  a different partition

[09:20] <mipz0r> openweek8: just face it, you are not even able to copy a file from a flash drive, how do you want to do a whole operating system installation without compromising your work?
[09:20] <eL_pSycHo> openweek8:  yes.. just copy them from the terminal like you did the xorg.conf file.... remember?
[09:20] <mipz0r> openweek8: you should have done backup BEFORE doing the upgrade or installation
[09:20] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: No idea. Where is it mounted?
[09:20] <mipz0r> am I right?
[09:20] <Ven]n> mipz0r, then I just need a place to get it.. do you have the full link? :)
[09:20] <mipz0r> Ven]n, lemme see
[09:21] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: /dev/sdb1 on /tmp/testmnt type vfat (rw)
[09:21] <maje> corigo: It sounds like you don't even have a filesystem to boot to...you can use a liveCD to see if your filesystem has been destroyed, or you can just do a fresh install
[09:21] <mipz0r> Ven]n, this should work for you: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/patch
[09:21] <corigo> maje: nope I've got a boot partition and GRUB folder, just not that specific file.
[09:22] <soreau> Is LTS->LTS version updates supported without having to go through all the versions? *guesses not*
[09:22] <soreau> When will the next LTS version be?
[09:22] <MikeChelen> !lts
[09:22] <Ven]n> mipz0r, awesome. thanks a bunch.
[09:22] <maje> corigo: Okay, maybe someone else can help, sorry but I'm here just trying to gather knowledge mostly
[09:22] <maje> soreau: April of next year: 10.04
[09:23] <soreau> cool
[09:23] <mipz0r> openweek8, I would advise you asking someone more experienced to try to fix it... seriously.. if there's important work, you might compromise it innocently..
[09:23] <eL_pSycHo> openweek8: if you have a flash drive big enough for all your stuff then you can use the terminal to copy all your work to it.. or your whole home folder if you have enough space....
[09:23] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: Can you write files to it, etc?
[09:23] <DJones> soreau: yes, you can go from an LTS to LTS version without needing to upgrade to every version in between
[09:24] <mipz0r> man external hard drives are so cheap nowadays... there's no excuse for not backing up before a system upgrade
[09:24] <dambarp> vlc: /build/buildd/libdvdnav-4.1.3/src/vm/vm.c:1485: process_command: Assertion `0' failed.
[09:24] <dambarp> i canno tplay vidoes on vlc
[09:24] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: if i navigate to that folder with nautilus and try to paste a file there it doesnt let me.
[09:24] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: the options is greyed out.
[09:24] <kingropen> how to install tor on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[09:25] <mipz0r> well gotta go, too early already here :) vampire needs some rest... cyl8r
[09:25] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: You mounted it manually, didn't you? It's been mounted as root, so root owns it.  :)
[09:25] <soreau> DJones: ok thanks
[09:25] <openweek8> All you guys thank you very much for your help... I will do a fresh install and be more careful next time... thanks again
[09:25] <kraut> moin
[09:25] <MikeChelen> kingropen: use the tor repo, probably the 9.04 will work
[09:25] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: shit... youre right... lol.. let me try as root
[09:25] <mipz0r> openweek8, what I can advise you
[09:25] <maje> kingropen, look into the "Vidalia" program in the Ubuntu Software Center
[09:26] <mipz0r> openweek8: is when asked to FORMAT or to ERASE the partition, or even to AUTO-FDISK, say "NO", and check the mount points carefully... if you have installed ubuntu in a partition and made your home directory on another, it will be much safer to upgrade
[09:26] <kingropen> maje i will see
[09:27] <maje> kingropen, MIkeChelen's advice is also good, so you know
[09:28] <MikeChelen> maje: does vidalia work without additional tor package?
[09:28] <Ven]n> hmm.. I just did a "make" without sudo. When is that possible?
[09:28] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: i copied something there... i unplugged the flash drive and plugged it back in and checked and what i put there is gone...
[09:28] <MenZa> Ven]n: Any time you have write access to the dir you're in.
[09:28] <kingropen> maje thnx
[09:28] <MenZa> Ven]n: it's the "make install" bit that's problematic if you don't have root access :)
[09:29] <maje> MikeChelen, it should act as a wrapper for not only Tor but it's relevant programs
[09:29] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: because it wasn't ejected. you need it to be mounted properly for that to work
[09:29] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: do me a favour, sudo dpkg -l|grep gvfs
[09:29] <cybersplice> does it show lots of stuff?
[09:29] <cybersplice> should be five packages
[09:30] <Ven]n> MenZa, ok.. I thought the opposite. but makes sense. Thanks ;)
[09:30] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: http://paste.ubuntu.com/309286/
[09:31] <cow9000> vlc plays dvds but i can't mount. no /dev/sr0, no /dev/cdrom
[09:31] <cybersplice> do other usb filesystems mount OK on this machine?
[09:31] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: also.. if i do df -h i can see the used space matches with the file i put in there.. so i guess its in there..
[09:32] <cow9000> what should i do?
[09:32] <MikeChelen> maje: does it still require the additional repo to work?
[09:32] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: i guess my problem is im using Karmic lol
[09:32] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: Yeah fat is sensitive if you don't eject it on usb drives. It's why Win95 often died in a fire if you didn't shut down properly, for example.
[09:32] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: Do other USB drives mount OK?
[09:33] <larsemil> do i really have to login on ubuntu one each time i start the computer? it opens my browser and wants me to sign in. but i mean, couldnt that be done automaticly once i have added the computer
[09:33] <maje> MikeChelen, Not for me
[09:33] <mmo|> What do I do if I have installed a newer package from a repository that I added to sources.list - but now I would like to return to the package version that is in ubuntus repository?
[09:34] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: thats the only usb drive i have.. but my iphone doesnt mout either... it did in 9.04
[09:34] <darkmattr>  why can't I set my yahoo and gtalk status in empathy to "invisible"?
[09:34] <spanther> omg ctrl+alt+del doesn't work anymore but i need to kill X because game hangs :(
[09:34] <jtz]blue> hay guys a update
[09:35] <jtz]blue>  massive bug in the ubuntu networking stack, and essential you could arbitratly get root on ubuntu 9.1
[09:35] <darkmattr> i'm inclined to go back to Pidgin
[09:35] <jtz]blue>  massive bug in the ubuntu networking stack, and essential you could arbitratly get root on ubuntu 9.10
[09:35] <eL_pSycHo> spanther: what about ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:35] <jtz]blue> it works been testing and no patch after 48hrs bad ubuntu dev team
[09:35] <spanther> eL_pSycHo, it doesn't work nothing happens when i press it
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> !zap
[09:36] <DigitalKiwi> !dontzap
[09:36] <andypiper> spanther: you can re-enabled Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in the keyboard settings
[09:36] <eL_pSycHo> spanther: are you using karmic?
[09:36] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: sounds like fuse is broken. search for gvfs in synaptic and mark it for reinstall
[09:36] <MikeChelen> maje: it can't seem to start tor, the default path /usr/sbin/tor doesn't exist
[09:36] <spanther> i can't use keyboard settings since i only have keyboard left. my mouse is bound to a game i cant close cause its moved outside the window <.<
[09:36] <spanther> eL_pSycHo, yes
[09:37] <bradpitt> i try to open tweetdeck, and it wont open with xubuntu. it says " it look like your computer is one of very small number of computers that don't play well with adobe air " too bad.. :(
[09:37] <maje> MikeChelen, then it seems I accidentally had that repo in my list. That would be why I pointed to your instructions as valid and a good idea to read
[09:37] <eL_pSycHo> spanther: do what ubottu sugested... To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable ». The combination Alt+SysRq+K can also be used to obtain a similar effect.
[09:37] <duckx0r> i have a weird problem where it takes about 10-15 seconds to display the contents of my home folder. what could be causing that?
[09:38] <zhouzhen> 你好
[09:38] <corigo> !chinese
[09:38] <azeem> where can I find Realtek AC97 audio driver for 64bit ?
[09:38] <MikeChelen> maje: ah yeah, that seems to be the only way now. oddly it seems the tor package used to be in the official repos, but was removed a few distros back
[09:38] <fstx> 9.10 running from the CD, is there an IRC client on it?
[09:38] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: just gvfs or should i reinstall gvfs-fuse and the other too?
[09:38] <openweek8> mipz0r I will listen to what you said this time Thanks again
[09:38] <cybersplice> yes, all of them
[09:39] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: All of them
[09:39] <MikeChelen> fstx: gnome-chat or xchat?
[09:39] <spanther> yay... now i just switched with ctrl+alt+F2 to a shell/terminal and installed htop. then i killed the game process
[09:39] <maje> MikeChelen, Ubuntu gives such an abundance of great security packages, that Tor is worthless...one reason why I question people who want to run it under GNU/Linux ;)
[09:39] <sobersabre> Guys... how does this graphics card work with ubuntu: Intel 4500MHD Graphics Accelerator
[09:39] <sobersabre> ?
[09:39] <duckx0r> azeem, it should be included
[09:40] <spanther> sobersabre, it's intel so it should work out of the box :)
[09:40] <zhouzhen> install  intel graphics driver
[09:40] <duckx0r> fstx, i would imagine there is one, but if there isn't you can always just install one like normal
[09:40] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: should i restart afterwards?
[09:40] <fstx> MikeChelen: neither is there, in the Internet menu there is something called Empathy
[09:40] <jtz]blue> maja Ubuntu gives such an abundance of great security packages not true
[09:41] <jtz]blue> maja massive bug in the ubuntu networking stack, and essential you could arbitratly get root on ubuntu 9.10
[09:41] <sobersabre> spanther: according to this page (dated Jan. 2009): http://www.lapspecs.com/wiki/dell+latitude+e5500
[09:41] <jtz]blue> takes 1 sec
[09:41] <sobersabre> it isn't well supported...
[09:41] <sobersabre> has this changed ?
[09:41] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: couldn't hurt!
[09:41] <MikeChelen> fstx: empathy doesn't do irc, guess you could use something web-based like mibbit?
[09:41] <sobersabre> I mean it's not TOO long ago.
[09:41] <maje> jtz]blue, compare an end user trying to surf www.somesite.com in Windows and Ubuntu
[09:42] <kingropen> maje i cant download tor from tor web , the is anther web ? plz
[09:42] <spanther> sobersabre, oh i didn't know this model :(
[09:42] <sobersabre> spanther: it doesn't mean you are correct or incorrect though.
[09:43] <sobersabre> I need evidence....
[09:43] <spanther> sobersabre, are you able to use a LiveCD on it? so you could do that to check for compatibility first :)
[09:43] <sobersabre> like lspci
[09:43] <fstx> duckx0r: sudo apt-get install gnome-chat gives can't find package
[09:43] <sobersabre> spanther: I want to order it and use it, without "Trying Live CD".
[09:43] <fstx> MikeChelen: that is what Mozilla suggests
[09:43] <eVias> I'm having this problem with my sound. Have no more .. Ubuntu (9.04) tells me my HDA intel is not working anymore, falling back to Pulse audio. Which i though was ok. But still i have no more sound. I tried a relaod of alsa, which didn't change anything. Could anyone give me a clue ?
[09:43] <sobersabre> eVias: PulseAudio is software.
[09:44] <kingropen> maje and how i install MIkeChelen ? from sudo  ?
[09:44] <sobersabre> does your card work with ALSA or OSS only ?
[09:44] <eVias> no idea
[09:44] <eVias> it's a dell pc
[09:44] <sobersabre> eVias: ("software" i mean it's something above the drivers.
[09:44] <MikeChelen> kingropen: yes, after adding the repo
[09:44] <eVias> i know about that sobersabre  :)
[09:44] <sobersabre> try running gstreamer-properties
[09:44] <maxime> !fr
[09:44] <sobersabre> eVias: drivers are software too, this is why I commented.
[09:45] <sobersabre> is there anybody with E5500 Latitude around here ?
[09:45] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: it did not work
[09:45] <fstx> MIkeChelen: freenode does not allow connections via mibbit
[09:45] <eVias> gstreamer-propreties
[09:46] <eVias> allows me to test multiple things
[09:46] <eVias> none of them gives me any sound back
[09:46] <sobersabre> or other laptop with Intel's GMA 4500MHD
[09:46] <sobersabre> eVias: make sure no process uses the sound file now.
[09:46] <eL_pSycHo> Karmic... im braking up with you. but i want you to know.. its not me.. its you.
[09:46] <eVias> ALSA + OSS says can't use to read.
[09:46] <eVias> ok
[09:46] <spanther> sobersabre, seems not running out of the box so far :/
[09:46] <spanther> searched google a bit now
[09:46] <sobersabre> eVias: the best way to mess with sound is in console.
[09:47] <sleepy_cat> which IM is better .. pidgin or kopete
[09:47] <sobersabre> spanther: this means I cannot order it.
[09:47] <eVias> i figured :D
[09:47] <sleepy_cat> which IM is better .. pidgin or kopete
[09:47] <eVias> www.meebo.com sleepy_cat  ;) :D
[09:47] <fstxx> MikeChelen: webchat.freenode.net worked! Thank you!
[09:48] <corigo> sleepy_cat: same same
[09:48] <taofd> how long does it take for ubuntu one to sync? is there a "force sync now" button?
[09:48] <MikeChelen> fstxx: oh yeah cool, that is the one to use for freenode :)
[09:48] <iceroot> how to see which "viewer" man is using?
[09:48] <iceroot> and how to change the viewer for man
[09:48] <sleepy_cat> no i meant mandriva now supports kopete so i was wondering is it better than pidgin to certain extent
[09:49] <taofd> i like empathy :d
[09:49] <iceroot> sleepy_cat: kopete = kde
[09:49] <cybersplice> eL_pSycHo: you could try dpkg-reconfigure gvfs-fuse
[09:49] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: may i ask why?????/
[09:49] <kingropen> i cant install tor from the tor web is block in Saudi Arabia  so there is another web ?
[09:49] <fstxx> The installer won't see my hard disk. Fdisk will see it, though. 9.10 on 690G/SB600 motherboard, SATA disk, AHCI mode
[09:49] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, why not? it does what i need it to do, it's deeply tied with gnome, i can store my passwords in the gnome keychain, and it doesnt crash like pidgin does :/
[09:50] <om26er> !torrents
[09:50] <pshr_> !info bt
[09:50] <thenetduck> hey has anyone here ever used a hp 50g calculator?
[09:50] <keepguessing> Hi ... How do i enable forward history search??
[09:50] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: i guess for you its good enough...but i couldnt even change fonts there... i hate it.
[09:50] <iceroot> !ot | thenetduck
[09:50] <kingropen> maje i cant install tor from the tor web is block in Saudi Arabia  so there is another web ?
[09:51] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: maybe later it'll get better... but right now its not good enough.. at least for me.
[09:51] <thenetduck> doh .. kk
[09:51] <keepguessing> Is there a good document for all the shortcut keys in ubuntu??
[09:51] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: that didnt work either.
[09:51] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, features are sparse, i agree, but what do you want to use in particular that empathy doesnt have? besides video)
[09:51] <eL_pSycHo> cybersplice: did i tell you im using Karmic? i bet thats the problem :P
[09:51] <spanther> sobersabre, why don't you check the lists of notebooks supported and pick one of these with intel chipset? :)
[09:52] <kingropen> i cant install tor from the tor web is block in Saudi Arabia  so there is another web ? plz
[09:52] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: IRC didnt work for me..
[09:52] <Glaxys> hey guys I have a question here, how can you do wget and simply make a request without saving the document?
[09:52] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: does it work for you??
[09:53] <crohakon> how do I find out what version of wine I have?
[09:53] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, i don't use those sort of chat clients for IRC... i usually want something a little more specialized
[09:53] <taofd> i use xchat primarily for IRC
[09:53] <taofd> crohakon, apt-cache policy wine
[09:53] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: all i do in IRC is type something and press enter so i dont really need much... but like i said.. it didnt even work..
[09:53] <corigo> So far Karmic is un-installable... every time I install I get a GRUB 15 error when I reboot
[09:54] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, that's weird... it shouldn't just "not work"
[09:54] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, maybe check on the forums if other users are experiencing a similar problem?
[09:54] <MikeChelen> yeah xchat font size can be adjusted
[09:54] <eL_pSycHo> corigo: its a warning from the gods... stay away from Karmic... its brake....... your heart :P
[09:54] <taofd> i dunno, karmic is working great for me :x
[09:55] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: nah... i cant even change fonts with empathy.. its not worth the effort for me.... maybe when its more mature.
[09:55] <sleepy_cat> whats kde ?
[09:55] <MenZa> !kde
[09:55] <thinced> it's desktop environment like gnome
[09:55] <corigo> sleepy_cat: an alternative to Gnome
[09:55] <sleepy_cat> hmm
[09:55] <sleepy_cat> so a kde app cannot be run on gnome
[09:55] <corigo> (and far superior in my opinion)
[09:56] <thinced> yes it can :)
[09:56] <taofd> sleepy_cat, no it can
[09:56] <sobersabre> spanther: I don't care about chipset.
[09:56] <thinced> sleepy_cat: consider it just a linux app
[09:56] <corigo> It can with a minimum subset of required hooks
[09:56] <sleepy_cat> hmm ok
[09:56] <sobersabre> I need to meet certain requirements (CPU, mem), and I want full h/w graphics support by already existing linux distro (like 9.10)
[09:57] <sobersabre> and out of all that I've been suggested this Dell machine looked ok,
[09:57] <eL_pSycHo> sleepy_cat: depends what KDE app you wanna run... for example kopete runs under gnome......
[09:57] <sobersabre> but now I see it's NOT ok.
[09:57] <sleepy_cat> so some work some dont
[09:57] <taofd> any kde app will run as long as you meet the deps
[09:57] <eL_pSycHo> sleepy_cat: but it has to download a bunch of crap to work.
[09:57] <m4lloc> I've accidentally screwed up my user's default groups, so Can anyone send me the output of "id" command?
[09:58] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:58] <llutz> m4lloc: no clue if default: adm dialout cdrom audio plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[09:58] <quinn_> looking for suggestions on mounting an hfsplus formatted droob to a static mount
[09:59] <eL_pSycHo> wow!!!!
[09:59] <taofd> m4lloc, i sent you a PM
[09:59] <eL_pSycHo> why did canonical do this to us??? release Karmic like this....? i bought two sweaters! lol
[10:00] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, what are you talking about?
[10:00] <corigo> taofd: it won't even boot
[10:00] <jtz]blue> !netsplit
[10:00] <keepguessing> What is command for forward search in ubuntu??
[10:00] <taofd> corigo, not even the live cd?
[10:00] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: im just talking about how karmic some issues for some ppl myself included.... (some ppl being the key phrase.. no fan boy crap please...)
[10:00] <crohakon> I always liked a nice netsplit.
[10:00] <fstxx> partman can't see the disk either, gparted can
[10:01] <Glaxys> while true; do wget link; done &... but now that it's in the background, I don't know ho to kill it and pkill while does not work ...  nore does pkill wget ... help, how do I kill these?
[10:01] <iceroot> keepguessing: something like ctrl + r  on the shell?
[10:01] <corigo> taofd: yes, but what good is that?
[10:01] <taofd> with every ubuntu release there are usually a few persisting bugs...
[10:01] <taofd> corigo, well its a start.. do you know whats specifically causing the inability to boot?
[10:01] <keepguessing> iceroot: yes .. but i want to do a foward search too
[10:01] <taofd> do you get dropped in a busybox?
[10:01] <corigo> grub error 15
[10:01] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[10:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:02] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: a lot of ppl say that.. i guess that makes it ok.
[10:02] <taofd> corigo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[10:03] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, just pointing out that its expected, keep in mind that while ubuntu is canonical sponsored, the majority of the developers are working from their OWN time, this is a volunteer project, its pretty amazing we even have something like this community to begin with
[10:03] <corigo> taofd: Yes, I've re-installed twice and still don't have a menu.lst file
[10:03] <keepguessing> iceroot: ??
[10:04] <taofd> corigo, before installing did you run a integrity check?
[10:05] <om26er> the heck
[10:05] <zaggynl> irc servers out of sync
[10:05] <cybersplice> onoes a netsplit
[10:05] <om26er> that's right deliver it to my heart
[10:05] <crohakon> Yay for netsplits!
[10:05] <cybersplice> onoes!
[10:05] <c_nick> Mandriva has GNOME and KDE ??
[10:06] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: im not saying its complete crap.. but it sucks that some ppl cant even automount CD/DVDs and have to do it manually... and mice not working among other things. thats all...
[10:06] <tombott> om26er> the heck - netsplit - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:06] <cybersplice> !netsplit
[10:06] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: are you a windows hater? lol
[10:07] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, go fix it :) if you see a bug, post a bug
[10:07] <om26er> eL_pSycHo: i am
[10:07] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, no fyi, I am not, but I do believe in being proactive in the community, lets get back on subject, if you want to continue this discussion go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:07] <llutz> eL_pSycHo: that's a known problem for all distros with fixed release-plans. it better should be released when done ...
[10:07] <eL_pSycHo> taofd: if i could fix it i would.. i really would... but sadly i cant.. all i can do is post bugs and help out here or things like that.
[10:08] <corigo> taofd: on the intall disk? Yes. That's why I threw out the first 2 burns
[10:08] <taofd> eL_pSycHo, well thats enough, posting bugs are important
[10:08] <taofd> corigo, and the final discs passed the check?
[10:08] <NET||abuse> hmm, running banshee here,, can't see the task tray icon.. i clicked the x on the application, now there's no icon for it.. can't geet it back on screen.
[10:08] <taofd> how bout the original iso? did you md5sum the iso?
[10:09] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[10:09] <corigo> Yes, of course
[10:09] <keepguessing> How many splits will happen ...
[10:10] <om26er> at the moment i can type anything ? no explicit
[10:10] <om26er> lol
[10:10] <eL_pSycHo> how do i switch tabs with the keyboard in pidgin?
[10:11] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, if i decided not to update a certain application, how can i avoid the popping out of synaptic informing me that the updates for that app are ready, cuz even if i uncheck them and close, they're still there then. How do i get rid of em? thanks
[10:11] <om26er> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSJXle3LP_Q
[10:12] <om26er> listen to some cool music till the split ends
[10:12] <lady_white> hi everyone...how can I download Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala?
[10:13] <Appiah> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[10:13] <iceroot> !ot | om26er
[10:13] <om26er> !torrents | lady_white
[10:13] <MenZa> !crosspost | IpSe_DiXiT
[10:13] <malikkite> hi
[10:13] <om26er> lady_white: http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[10:13] <om26er> !hi | malikkite
[10:14] <Ven]n> ithout having to go through all the versions? *guesses not*
[10:14] <Ven]n> [04/11 @ 10:22:20] * TOFUlien<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:14] <Ven]n> sorry
[10:14] <fstxx> The installer won't see my hard disk. Fdisk will see it, though. 9.10 on 690G/SB600 motherboard, SATA disk, AHCI mode
[10:14] <c_nick> Mandriva has GNOME and KDE ??
[10:15] <iceroot> c_nick: #mandriva
[10:15] <Ven]n> Im trying to load b43 driver, but sudo modprobe b43 gives "FATAL: Error inserting b43 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless/b43/b43.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)". and dmesg gives a bunch of "b43: Unknown symbol ssb_device_is_enabled" and other unknown symbols. any ideas?
[10:15] <om26er> fstxx: can you plz pastebin your fstab
[10:16] <simon> hello
[10:16] <iceroot> !broadcom | Ven]n
[10:16] <om26er> Ven]n: installed the properietry driver?
[10:16] <Ven]n> nah, I did the whole process with b43-fwcutter
[10:16] <om26er> oh
[10:17] <Ven]n> but I have no internet access on that computer, so I had to load the stuff manually
[10:17] <Ven]n> i first loaded the driver
[10:17] <Ven]n> and then the firmware
[10:18] <Andorin> Holy craaaaaap netsplits...
[10:18] <theresa> hello every one i need help with wubi, is the a wubi room ???
[10:18] <Ven]n> om26er, i installed the driver with sudo "b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o"
[10:19] <vegombrei> im having problems installing ubuntu on my laptop .. its a compaq presario cq40 .. anyone installed sucessfully?
[10:19] <theresa> any one in here used wubi?
[10:19] <theresa> i have huge headache from it and really need some help
[10:19] <DannyButterman> Hi There
[10:20] <DannyButterman> I can't connect locally (localhost) with system user www-data on my debian server without being prompted for a password. have put rsa and dsa public keys in authorized_keys and authorized_keys2
[10:20] <fstxx> om26er: what do you expect to see in the fstab?
[10:20] <DannyButterman> this system user can connect to other machines though
[10:20] <DannyButterman>  Can you help me ?
[10:21] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[10:21] <theresa> i have a wubi root.disk and i have tried everything i can about mounting it but it wont work
[10:22] <skysong> theresa: why not install it the usual way?
[10:22] <theresa> i have but i need the original one because it contains everything
[10:23] <skysong> what's 'everything'?
[10:23] <simon> DannyButterman, 1) why do you use www-data for such things? 2) is your private key in ~www-data/.ssh/id_*sa? 3) is your sshd configured to look for keys?
[10:23] <theresa> skysong:i reloaded laptop and reinstalled wubi, copied the old c:\ubuntu\ overwriting it but it just kicks in to installion mode
[10:23] <fstxx> om26er: wouldn't /proc/scsi/scsi or fdisk output be more useful?
[10:24] <danisahne> hi all I want to boot from a software raid1 s.b. has exoerience? what is the uuid? is the uuid for grub2 necessary
[10:24] <theresa> so i loaded proper ubuntu on partition and apparently using sudo mount -o loop /home/theresa/Desktop/root.disk /vdisk would make it browseable
[10:24] <binary050> hi, i was wondering if anyone else has had any trouble with their sound in the new release??
[10:24] <skysong> binary050: hda intel?
[10:24] <danisahne> binary050: sounds not working but my problem now :)
[10:25] <danisahne> not
[10:25] <theresa> skysong: it says please specify file system type when i use that mount command
[10:25] <binary050> im rather new to linux in general, and thought id upgrade from the last release, where the sound worked
[10:25] <napster> anyone know how to download updates for a computer  from another one...?
[10:26] <theresa> wubi site says to back up the ubuntu installation copy the root.disk to another location but the have nothing on restoring it????????????
[10:26] <simon> napster, depends. how do you have access to this other computer?
[10:26] <skysong> hold on
[10:26] <danisahne> hi all I want to boot from a software raid1 s.b. has experience? what is the uuid mdadm --detail --scan give on but this one is not in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[10:27] <skysong> theresa: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1007816
[10:30] <danisahne> daniel@ws:~$ sudo mdadm --detail --scan
[10:30] <danisahne> ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 UUID=c2aff624:da070e8e:5db75714:0c50c5c8
[10:30] <danisahne>
[10:30] <danisahne> linux   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=f1bc8ba6-cf9b-4786-86e5-0917a4bb8f9d
[10:30] <danisahne>
[10:30] <danisahne> what format is need ed ?
[10:30] <theresa> skysong: that is the first thing i found and read through but its the mounting im having problems with
[10:31] <theresa> skysong: its says to specify the filesystem type but that www says nothing about that
[10:31] <Whitt> I'm having trouble with Grub2 saying all my initrd files are too large
[10:31] <Slart> !uuid
[10:31] <lobak> hello
[10:31] <skysong> theresa: what's your filesystem?
[10:31] <lodder> what should I install squid or squid3
[10:32] <Voting>  I'm moving myself over to using ubuntu on my main machine all the time and one think I have not figure out what to do about is that I do depend on GoToMeeting of WebEx when giving sales presentations and the like to multiple potential clients, things like GoToMeeting of WebEx are great. Is there anything for group screen sharing that DOES work under ubuntu?
[10:32] <lobak> I'm currently using kernel 2.6.31-14-generic. How can I backport my kernel to install and use kernel 2.6.31-11 ?
[10:32] <zaggynl> Voting: webex is avaiable for linux
[10:32] <Slart> How do I find out the uuid of my newly formatted hard drive.. it's not listed in the output of "sudo blkid"?
[10:32] <Whitt> Voting, use desktop sharing, its an option under System
[10:33] <theresa> skysong: well the proper install is ext3 but i can only assume the wubi used ext3, its a file called root.disk a virtual disk and i need access to it
[10:33] <EgyCoder09> my labtop is fujitsu simens amilo pro v3515 and my wireless card is atheros .. last day i upgraded from 9 to 9.10 and after upgrading i can't find ( wireless networking ) on networks gui and also i can't find (Ath) interface on ( ifconfig )'s output ??? can any one help me plz ??
[10:33] <Voting> zaggynl: webex works well for ubuntu then?
[10:33] <zaggynl> Voting: I haven't tried it personally yet, lemme try right now
[10:33] <zaggynl> the last update supposedly added more support
[10:33] <whatuppp> hey guys how can i remove grub from startup?
[10:34] <Whitt> whatuppp, what do you want to put there instead?
[10:34] <skysong> theresa: im afraid i can't figure out what needs to be done since i don't know what wubi looks like.. would fdisk -l work in wubi?:s
[10:34] <whatuppp> Whitt: i am going to install linux but i dont want grub popping up
[10:34] <om26er> skysong: wubi is ubuntu installation
[10:34] <om26er> skysong: everthing except hibernate work in wubi
[10:34] <Whitt> whatuppp: grub is your bootloader, it starts first and then starts the linux kernel and everythign else.  There are options to make it almost invisible
[10:34] <theresa> wubi was great untill this problem
[10:35] <skysong> om26er: ah ok.. never used it.
[10:35] <theresa> wubi installs ubuntu with in windows environment
[10:35] <skysong> is anyone using debian here?
[10:35] <whatuppp> Whitt: i dont want grub to appear
[10:35] <om26er> skysong: have you entered ubuntu support or debian
[10:36] <skysong> om26er: both..:/
[10:36] <Whitt> whatuppp, is it grub2 or grub1 that you are going to install?  I only know how to use 1
[10:36] <skysong> i don't need help with ubuntu though:p
[10:36] <om26er> skysong: great
[10:36] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:36] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[10:36] <om26er> skysong: help others then
[10:37] <skysong> om26er: thats what im trying to do..
[10:37] <erebus> Any suggestions on how to get my keyboard to pickup, I'm stuck at the grub load window and I can't move or use "Enter"
[10:37] <om26er> skysong: cool
[10:38] <tad81>  ok i got a real problem... everything im trying to do with mysql encounters an error wth poker-web its a apt i was trying to install but couldnt do it successfuly because i didnt have mysql password...what do i need to do to ... remove or delete the changes that as been done with poker-web ??please i really need ur help .. i tried sudo apt-get --purge remove poker-web but doesnt work and i tried sudo apt-get autoremove but still ge
[10:38] <tad81> t an error with poker-web... please someone help me
[10:38] <malikkit1> i´m looking for information about how to return from a dual boot system to a single boot one, and more exactly how i can erase window partition and give the entire hard disk to ubuntu, how to set grub or erase it, how to change the partition table without erase the programs and settings in ubuntu while repartitioning the free space, thank you in advance
[10:39] <skysong> malikkit1: thats what i exactly did some weeks ago. Found it easier to completely format the hdd and the reinstall ubuntu
[10:39] <tad81> malikkit1: boot from cd then install with full hdd space ??
[10:39] <skysong> then*
[10:39] <EgyCoder09> my labtop is fujitsu simens amilo pro v3515 and my wireless card is atheros .. last day i upgraded from 9 to 9.10 and after upgrading i can't find ( wireless networking ) on networks gui and also i can't find (Ath) interface on ( ifconfig )'s output ??? can any one help me plz ??
[10:39] <lobak> I'm currently using kernel 2.6.31-14-generic. How can I backport my kernel to install and use kernel 2.6.31-11 ?
[10:39] <skysong> malikkit1: you could use gparted though
[10:40] <malikkit1> skysong & tad81, how can i save all the stuff i installed allready in ubuntu?
[10:40] <malikkit1> ok for gparted but grub? it will not work after repartition
[10:41] <tad81> skysong: ok i got a problem... everything im trying to do with mysql encounters an error wth poker-web its a apt i was trying to install but couldnt do it successfuly because i didnt have mysql password...what do i need to do to ... remove or delete the changes that as been done with poker-web ??please i really need ur help .. i tried sudo apt-get --purge remove poker-web but doesnt work and i tried sudo apt-get autoremove but still
[10:41] <tad81>  get an error with poker-web...can u  help me
[10:41] <skysong> malikkit1: you'll have to edit grub. That's why i told you i found it easier, for me, to reinstall the whole thing
[10:41] <klunka> hi all - wondering how to integrate Pidgin into panel in Karmic
[10:41] <eL_pSycHo> malikkit1: you should boot from your ubuntu live CD and use gparted to delete de windows partition and resize the ubuntu partition to use the whole disk. it will take a couple of hours though dependin how much data you have.
[10:42] <mr_mojo> klunka, look for the plugin in the plugin window
[10:42] <eL_pSycHo> malikkit1: if after that you cant boot then grub is gone and you need to reinstall it again using the live CD from the terminal i forget how but you can google that or ppl here can tell you.
[10:42] <ercani> anyone in speech recognition area ?
[10:42] <malikkit1> el_psyco, what about grub? skysong, how to save all the staff installed?
[10:42] <tad81> ok i got a problem... everything im trying to do with mysql encounters an error wth poker-web its a apt i was trying to install but couldnt do it successfuly because i didnt have mysql password...what do i need to do to ... remove or delete the changes that as been done with poker-web ??please i really need ur help .. i tried sudo apt-get --purge remove poker-web but doesnt work and i tried sudo apt-get autoremove but still get an e
[10:42] <tad81> rror with poker-web...can anyone help me
[10:42] <skysong> installing grub is a pain..:s
[10:43] <skysong> malikkit1: http://howto-ubuntu.com/2008/12/03/how-to-back-up-your-installed-applications-with-aptoncd/  -- never tried it though..
[10:43] <mr_mojo> tad81, i don't understand what this poker-web reference is
[10:44] <ercani> anyone in speech recognition area, send private message to me
[10:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:44] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[10:44] <eL_pSycHo> malikkit1: if you resize your partition you dont have to reinstall anything.. except maybe grub....
[10:44] <klunka> thanks mr_mojo
[10:44] <mr_mojo> klunka, no worries :)
[10:45] <skysong> eL_pSycHo: i think he's referring to installing the whole system, that's why he wanted something to backup his installed apps
[10:45] <i_is_broke> netsplits are giving me a headache..:(
[10:45] <mr_mojo> tad81, apologies, i've just found it. are you actually using this system for poker?
[10:45] <tad81> mr_mojo: hum .. its an apt that couldnt be install properly because i hadnt the mysql password.. but now whatever im doing to Reinstall or delete mysql i get an error because poker-web aint installed properly
[10:45] <Hagus> I have used sudo apt-get autoremove php5 but when I do php -v it shows up as PHP 5.3.2-dev (cli).  How do I get rid of php so that I can do a clean install of php5.x ?
[10:45] <crohakon> I think we should turn it into a drinking game...
[10:45] <mateusz> Da
[10:45] <mr_mojo> Hagus, apt-get autoremove php5-cli should work
[10:45] <Whitt> Hello, I'm looking for help with Grub2 for Ubuntu.  Every Kernel I try to boot returns with the error that my initrd file is too large.  Does anyone know a way to solve this?
[10:46] <malikkit1> skysong, thank you, i´ĺl go to get informed about your tips
[10:46] <python_root> hi all
[10:46] <Hagus> mr_mojo: You are a saint!
[10:46] <Hagus> ty :)
[10:46] <eL_pSycHo> skysong: so he's definitely not gonna resize and do a fresh install? i didnt know that.
[10:46] <mr_mojo> :)
[10:46] <ndlovu> where can I find out how long the various releases will be supported?
[10:46] <tad81> mr_mojo: so basically .. i cant do any changes in mysql .. set new password or even delete mysql to reinstall it because its blocked by that error
[10:46] <tad81> mr_mojo: i can copy past the error if u want
[10:46] <skysong> eL_pSycHo: no i think he wanted to resize at first, but planning to do a full install now;)
[10:46] <mr_mojo> tad81, please, but use pastebin.com
[10:46] <Sudanese> Hello there , my huawei modem do not work with karmic , it was working great in jaunty , how i can fix that ?:D
[10:47] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, what modem are you using?
[10:47] <mindframe> why won't the proprietary broadcom driver(for bcm4312) enable in 9.10?
[10:47] <Sudanese> mr_mojo, E169
[10:47] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, is this a 3G datamodem?
[10:47] <ambient_sky> Yop, i have the same problem with Huawei E220, Orange
[10:47] <malikkit1> really i´d preferr to resize, but i´m worried about grub
[10:47] <Flynsarmy> In karmic when i double click on an image the preview box opens but nautilus still has focus. How do i give focus to the preview window automatically?
[10:47] <m22> join #bookz
[10:47] <rijal> #jakarta
[10:47] <tad81> mr_mojo:  ok but ull find it ?
[10:47] <m22> #bookz
[10:48] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  yes , you can check this on http://paste.ubuntu.com/309332/
[10:48] <mr_mojo> tad81, paste it to me in pm
[10:48] <m22> ok...how am I supposed to join a channel?
[10:48] <DJones> m22: type /join #channelname
[10:48] <m22> and is there a channel similar to #bookz around here?
[10:48] <KjetilK> I'm trying to debug a crash, which appears to be in libenchant1c2a, and I have some problems installing the debug symbols packages
[10:48] <i_is_broke>  /join #channel
[10:48] <m22> why,thank you
[10:48] <i_is_broke> yw
[10:48] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, my guess is that with the change from udev to DeviceKit (iirc) it may of broke the scripts that use it
[10:49] <KjetilK> I get  libenchant1c2a-dbgsym: Depends: libenchant1c2a (= 1.5.0-0ubuntu3) but 1.5.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[10:49] <tad81> mr_mojo:  im gonna past the sudo apt-get autoremove in pm
[10:49] <m22> bookz channel has two users including me,and unsurprisingly no books
[10:49] <Hagus> mr mojo - it removed a bundle of things such as mdb2 drivers but php -v still shows  PHP 5.3.2-dev (cli)
[10:49] <KjetilK> but I can't find  1.5.0-0ubuntu3 anywhere
[10:49] <ndlovu> how long are lts releases supported?
[10:49] <m22> help?
[10:49] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  any way to fix it , I'm totaly new into ubuntu :D
[10:49] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, does it appear as a device in the file manager?
[10:49] <aeromax> what's going on
[10:49] <mr_mojo> tad81, ok
[10:49] <m22> i need ebooks people.where do i go!
[10:49] <mr_mojo> Hagus, so you removed php5-cli and that's still there? hmm...
[10:50] <i_is_broke> m22, try google.
[10:50] <aeromax> holy shit
[10:50] <m22> i did try:/
[10:50] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  the Cd Rom  yes but when i click on it , it says unable to mount
[10:50] <mindframe> exit
[10:50] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, i don't mean a physical cdrom
[10:50] <tad81> mr_mojo:  im gonna try something
[10:50] <i_is_broke> m22, try amazon
[10:51] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  I know
[10:51] <KjetilK> never mind, found it
[10:51] <rcp> im getting an error when shutting down:<PHONE_NUMBER> buffer IO error on device loop 0 logical block 332904903 - does anyone know what this is?
[10:51] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, ok, good
[10:51] <mr_mojo> my god these netsplits are getting annoying.
[10:51] <DJones> m22: Try the baen free library
[10:51] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  sorry it's working now
[10:51] <Hagus> Is there a way of removing php without using aptitude?
[10:51] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, what the modem, or mounting?
[10:51] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  I mean it's cd room part
[10:52] <tad81> mr_mojo:  i instaled mysql via Mintinstall but still cant change password or anything
[10:52] <om26er> Hagus: synapyic?
[10:52] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  you saw my log  ?
[10:52] <deehash> Hiya all
[10:52] <Hagus> I am not familiar with it om26er.  Is it a package that I need to download?
[10:52] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, that's actually the problem i think. basically these usb modems have two usb devices, one is the modem itself and one is basically a self-contained usb stick storage device that has the drivers for windows/mac
[10:52] <user101> Is this solved http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1300537 ????
[10:53] <m22> ok I did found the book I was looking for,thanks for the inspiration. if anyone else is into gothic literature,let me know^^
[10:53] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, could you give me the exact make and model again so i can look it up for you
[10:53] <mr_mojo> netsplits have lost my history :/
[10:53] <m22> lol.christ
[10:53] <unimatrix> anyone know how to tweet from Gwibber?
[10:53] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  sorry what you mean by the exact make and model name ?
[10:53] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, of your modem
[10:54] <rcp> hi user101
[10:54] <mr_mojo> manufacturer and model number
[10:54] <rcp> did u fix that issue, what should i do?
[10:54] <Sudanese> huawei E169  HSPDA USb stick
[10:54] <Hagus> sorry, om26er - I mistook what you said.  I have tried synaptic too.
[10:54] <Blizzerand> What do you guys think about this ---> http://www.wikihow.com/Run-Mediawiki-on-Ubuntu  ---> If you find any mistake feel free to correct it
[10:54] <Sudanese> huawei E169  HSPDA USb stick @ mr_mojo
[10:54] <Voting> I'm looking to pick up 3 or 4 laptops that I will be running Ubuntu on. I'm looking at a roughly $400 deal on something like this: http://dealnews.com/Toshiba-Intel-Dual-Core-2-GHz-16-Laptop-for-418-free-shipping/324857.html <- 3 gigs, good displays, etc. I'd like something that runs Ubuntu really well. I plan to upgrade the hard drives anyway so I don't care what they come with. I'm looking for pretty much desktop power, not small size or wei
[10:54] <user101> rcp : no . i am facing the same issue
[10:54] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, thanks, give me two minutes
[10:54] <rcp> damn
[10:54] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  sure thanks :)
[10:54] <elky> unimatrix, you need to set your account up in it, then you'll need to drag the bar at the bottom of the screen up to show the typing area.
[10:55] <unimatrix> elky: oooh, there it is... thanks!
[10:55] <deehash> i just installed update-notifier and i would like to know hotw redirect returned data from /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check or /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check -p in a file /etc/motd for example?
[10:55] <elky> unimatrix, took me half an hour last night to find it
[10:56] <steve__> anyone awake?
[10:56] <damo> yh
[10:56] <damo> lol
[10:57] <steve__> I'm newish to ubuntu and have some quick questions
[10:57] <damo> kk
[10:57] <damo> shoot
[10:57] <damo> im newish also but may be able to help
[10:57] <anoob> how can i report i bug about a module?
[10:58] <damo> not sure see i wont be no good for questions
[10:58] <Slart> steve__: just ask
[10:58] <damo> slart will help u all
[10:58] <Slart> !bug | anoob
[10:58] <m3F> does anybody know why my sound output is enabled only when it is over 13% of volume? Ubuntu Karmic, using Pulseaudio, sound card Audigy SE 5.1
[10:58] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, try sudo rmmod usb-storage
[10:58] <mr_mojo> then
[10:58] <mr_mojo> sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1003
[10:58] <m3F> is here any Ubuntu sound system expert?
[10:58] <tarzeau> m3F: yes, just ask
[10:58] <steve__> I recently installed 9.10 and am using Cairo Dock and emerald together. Right after the install everthing was fine, but now when I log in GLX wont run unless I reload the emerald window decorator... anyone tell me why please?
[10:58] <tad81> mr_mojo:  so .. can u help me ?
[10:59] <mr_mojo> tad81, you are trying to setup a mysql_server correct?
[10:59] <larsman> my ubuntu server connect to one of lillypilly.canonical.com, mamoncillo.canonical.com, jackass.canonical.com, leningradskaya.canonical.com, drescher.canonical.com - does anyone know what process is doing that?
[10:59] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[10:59] <tarzeau> larsman: you should be able to figure with lsof or netstat
[10:59] <tad81> mr_mojo:  yeah and set a password ..
[10:59] <pandepande> hola a todos
[10:59] <m3F> i already did, tarzeau
[10:59] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  ERROR: Module usb_storage is in use
[10:59] <Slart> larsman: it's probably archive.ubuntu.com that has a round robin dns resolver
[11:00] <tarzeau> m3F: ah ok i saw it, no idea sorry
[11:00] <Guest43860> 大家都说中文吧。。。。
[11:00] <Slart> larsman: so.. apt might be a good guess
[11:00] <m3F> tarzeau, it did not happen with Jaunty
[11:00] <EvaLuaTe> I just installed karmic and I have 2 questions. 1. How could I remove that menu on the desktop so it looks just like the old desktop and shows the files in my ~/Desktop folder? and 2. How could I make the windows have the minimize/maximize/close buttons again?
[11:00] <Slart> !cn | Guest43860
[11:00] <larsman> ok, thanks - but does apt run regularly every night?
[11:00] <thisdotpheonix> hi guys, i am facing a problem whicle mounting a shared folder of my windows os which runs on VMWare in my ubuntu machine
[11:00] <mr_mojo> Sudanese, can you unmount the drive in file manager?
[11:00] <mr_mojo> then try that command again
[11:00] <Slart> larsman: I think it checks for updates once per day
[11:00] <danisahne> why is there an update-grub and a update-grub2 ?
[11:01] <larsman> ok, i'll check - thanks so far
[11:01] <danisahne> which on is the right or is it the same
[11:01] <Slart> larsman: you can change that in the update-manager, I think
[11:01] <cybersplice> danisahne: So one can update grub or grub2
[11:01] <BearBorg> yes on the grubs
[11:01] <Slart> cybersplice: yes, I think they have different configurations
[11:01] <user101> can i remove lupin-support
[11:01] <python_root> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:01] <BearBorg> sudo update-grub
[11:01] <thisdotpheonix> here is the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/309343/
[11:01] <Sudanese> mr_mojo,  I did the unmount for cd , but still there SD card reader on the modem
[11:01] <m3F> does anybody know how could i get a terminal output of the system when i change the volume level in Pulse? it is about my problem: does anybody know why my sound output is enabled only when it is over 13% of volume? Ubuntu Karmic, using Pulseaudio, sound card Audigy SE 5.1
[11:01] <user101> !lupin
[11:01] <polandchris> Hi! is there any programs like dreamweaver for linux
[11:02] <danisahne> but why is update-grub given ? kubuntu 9.10 just uses grub2 from the start
[11:02] <Slart> polandchris: nope, not that I know of at least
[11:02] <alumno12> olaaa
[11:02] <alumno12> ayalguienee
[11:02] <Slart> danisahne: perhaps it's just there for compatability
[11:03] <rblst> i've upgraded to karmic and now my hp laserjet 1018 is not detected, not even with lshw
[11:03] <m3F> another question: why "update-apt-xapi-root" puts my CPU over 80% of use?
[11:03] <iceroot> Sudanese: search for the tool "usb_switchmode" which will deactivate the card reader and acitvate the modem (not in the repos)
[11:03] <rblst> m3F: that's a very good question
[11:03] <alumno12> olaaaa
[11:03] <alumno12> putoooo
[11:03] <alumno12> zorronn
[11:03] <alumno12> kme vergasss
[11:03] <thisdotpheonix> hello anyone one
[11:03] <iceroot> !ot | alumno12
[11:03] <alumno12> soplapollas
[11:03] <Sudanese> iceroot i did it the command work
[11:03] <deehash> polandchris | have a look here http://net2.com/nvu/download.html
[11:03] <CaReS> jorgeeeeee
[11:04] <thisdotpheonix> anyone looking into my problem
[11:04] <alumno12> fuck him
[11:04] <Slart> !es | alumno12
[11:04] <DJones> !english | alumno12
[11:04] <Slart> !ops | alumno12
[11:04] <alumno12> ola carlos
[11:04] <iceroot> alumno12: cu :)
[11:04] <m3F> i have in mind that "update-apt-xapi-root" is just network connection?
[11:04] <alumno12> putos ingleses
[11:04] <polandchris> deehash: thank you
[11:04] <m3F> why 80% of CPU usage?
[11:04] <CaReS> jooorgeeee
[11:04] <tad81> thisdotpheonix:  yeah me
[11:04] <alumno12> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:04] <alumno12> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:04] <tad81> thisdotpheonix:  sorry misread
[11:04] <alumno12> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:04] <CaReS> ooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:04] <alumno12> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:04] <CaReS> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:04] <alumno12> olaaaa
[11:05] <CaReS> olaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:05] <CaReS> olaaaaaaaaaa
[11:05] <DJones> !ops | alumno12  & CaReS
[11:05] <CaReS> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:05] <thisdotpheonix> tad81, so u r not looking into the problem
[11:05] <alumno12> gorgues???????????????
[11:05] <alumno12> estas ay??
[11:05] <alumno12> amigo mio
[11:05] <alumno06> sip jejejeje
[11:05] <CaReS> jajaaaaa
[11:05] <m3F> jajaja
[11:05] <CaReS> jjajaaaaaaaa
[11:05] <alumno06> pirate¡
[11:05] <CaReS> jajaaaaaa
[11:05] <Blizzerand> !ops
[11:05] <CaReS> ops
[11:05] <tad81> thisdotpheonix:  im sorry i am a noob in linux
[11:05] <tad81> thisdotpheonix:  wich i could help ya
[11:05] <iceroot> tonyyarusso: thx
[11:05] <m3F> los hispano hablantes haciendo su show en el canal
[11:06] <thisdotpheonix> tad81, ok
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> !es
[11:06] <tad81> thisdotpheonix:  how long have u been using linux ?
[11:07] <thisdotpheonix> tad81, six months
[11:07] <rblst> i've upgraded to karmic and now my hp laserjet 1018 is not detected, not even with lshw; anyone resolved this?
[11:07] <tad81> thisdotpheonix:  ok maybee u can help me .. i got a problem setting up a mysql server
[11:07] <tarzeau> rblst: it's usb connected?
[11:07] <tad81> thisdotpheonix:  ok maybee u can help me .. i got a problem setting up a mysql server ?
[11:08] <larsman> how can i stop the update-manager from checking daily - using ubuntu server
[11:08] <c0ld> I have to ask is there a way to return back to my old wifi drivers and uninstall the new ones
[11:08] <c0ld> ??????
[11:08] <rblst> tarzeau: yes, usb
[11:08] <WishingMaster> hi to all , is there a way to check what items/packages were updated the last time update-manger was run ?
[11:09] <Hagus> I am using ubuntu9.10 and installed php5.3.  Since then I have tried to remove php but despite using synaptic and apt-get autoremove - php -v still shows PHP 5.3.2-dev (cli).  How do I get rid of it so that I can do a fresh install of php?
[11:09] <BearBorg> anyone tell me if there is any differance if you're running 32 bit or 64 bit versions of ubuntu?
[11:09] <c0ld> I want to uninstall the drivers I just put on my system and restore the ones that were before it.. is there a way to do this?
[11:09] <BearBorg> My machine can run both
[11:09] <iceroot> BearBorg: 64 bit can adress more ram, some drivers only avalilable for 32bit
[11:09] <iceroot> BearBorg: so check with a live-system if everything is working fine
[11:10] <zvacet> WishingMaster:  in synaptic>file tab>history you will find what you installed and when
[11:10] <m3F> does anybody know why my sound output is enabled only when it is over 13% of volume? Ubuntu Karmic, using Pulseaudio, sound card Audigy SE 5.1
[11:10] <BearBorg> Thanks Ice...
[11:10] <Ven]n> how can I get this without internet? git clone http://git.bu3sch.de/git/b43-tools.git
[11:10] <iceroot> !tab | BearBorg
[11:10] <Catalin> hello to all of you
[11:10] <BearBorg> Oh... *blush*! thanks :D
[11:11] <Catalin> can someone assist me please with a small problem?
[11:11] <xingjiu> hello
[11:11] <c0ld> I want to uninstall the drivers I just put on my system and restore the ones that were before it.. is there a way to do this?
[11:11] <iceroot> !ask | Catalin
[11:11] <iceroot> c0ld: what drivers?
[11:11] <simoncpu> 2.6.31 kernel is pants
[11:11] <simoncpu> :(
[11:11] <WishingMaster> zvacet, I am not able to login into a GUI session after the update , console is the only session where i can log-in now after the update
[11:11]  * simoncpu is back to 2.6.28
[11:11] <rblst> i've upgraded to karmic and now my hp laserjet 1018 is not detected on usb, not even with lshw, but lsusb lists it; anyone resolved this?
[11:11] <c0ld> I want to uninstall madwifi and go back to what I had when I first installed Ubuntu, iceroot
[11:12] <tarzeau> simoncpu: <IP_ADDRESS> is fine for me
[11:12] <tarzeau> simoncpu: i wasn't able to build <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:12] <c0ld> is there a command I can use to do this?
[11:12] <Catalin> i pluged in a mic on my sound card and the Ubuntu don`t recognize it
[11:12] <simoncpu> tarzeau: is that pre-karmic?
[11:12] <napster> anyone know how to download updates for a computer  from another one...?
[11:12] <zvacet> WishingMaster:  I don't know  sorry
[11:12] <tarzeau> simoncpu: i got debian sid
[11:12] <iceroot> !aptoncd | napster
[11:12] <Catalin> what i have to do to recognize that mic iceroot
[11:12] <iceroot> Catalin: please what?
[11:13] <simoncpu> why did so many things broke with karmic's 2.6.31?
[11:13] <Catalin> i pluged in a mic on my sound card and the Ubuntu don`t recognize it
[11:13] <c0ld> does anyone here have a answer for me?
[11:13] <iceroot> c0ld: use sudo apt-get remove package then install the one u want
[11:13] <jlvidals> join #ubuntu-br
[11:13] <Catalin> i have Ubuntu 9.10
[11:13] <simoncpu> is there a single "big" change that caused all this?
[11:13] <zvacet> simoncpu:  it will be polished at the time
[11:13] <stranger_in> how to configure evolution to add my custom gmail account?
[11:13] <rblst> Catalin: exactly what sound card do you have?
[11:14] <simoncpu> zvacet: the wages of bleeding edge is death :)
[11:14] <c0ld> ok
[11:14] <Catalin> i went to sound preference and that section where it said "Input" doen`t show me nothing....i have a M-audio Revolution 5.1
[11:14] <c0ld> I dont know how to remove mad wifi
[11:14] <napster> But the computer from which i need to download those packages is a "Windows" system...!!!
[11:14] <napster> ?
[11:14] <napster> rblst: Tell him to pipe inxi
[11:14] <c0ld> and reinstall my old drivers
[11:14] <simoncpu> all ye who want not suffering and pain, go ye with boring LTS
[11:14] <simoncpu> =)
[11:14] <m3F> stranger_in, look for "other email clients configuration" in the web of gmail and then use those settings to configure your Evolution
[11:15] <zvacet> stranger_in:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[11:15] <napster> ubottu: But the computer from which i need to download those packages is a "Windows" system...!!!
[11:15] <xingjiu> i have ubuntu installed on my notebook,but the sound effect is not so good,can anyone help?
[11:15] <napster> iceroot:  But the computer from which i need to download those packages is a "Windows" system...!!!
[11:15] <rblst> stranger_in: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[11:15] <stuarticus> Hi, Installed ubuntu to external drive and it wrote Grub to main drive (Windows) now computer won't boot without external drive attached... Can I fix from Ubuntu?
[11:15] <rblst> napster: tell whom?
[11:15] <Catalin> any ideea how to fix that guys?
[11:15] <stranger_in> m3F: zvacet: rblst: thanks all
[11:15] <c0ld> I want to know how to restore my drivers for wifi
[11:16] <m3F> stranger_in, it is not that hard, gmail have all the information you need
[11:16] <larsman> ok, got it: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic i set all values to 0 - hope this prevents automatic checking for updates
[11:16] <zvacet> simoncpu: every time when new version is out people complain rthat is worst version ever bur at time they change mind
[11:16] <WishingMaster> guys i am in deep shi , i am not able to log-in in a GUI session after updating my sys,console is the only option where i can login , even if i try alt f8 , it doesn't start a GUI session , can any 1 help me with this issue ?
[11:16] <stranger_in> m3F: k
[11:16] <iceroot> napster: maybe you can browse the repos?
[11:16] <zvacet> stranger_in: np
[11:16] <c0ld> I want to know how to restore my drivers for wifi
[11:16] <skysong> zvacet: karmic is the best version i used yet ;)
[11:16] <jrib> WishingMaster: login at tty1, create a new user, determine if you can login with the new user using gdm
[11:17] <BearBorg> stuarticus,  Yes, you'll have to edit your menu.lst ---> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the drive and remove it... I THINK.
[11:17] <Ven]n> how can I get this without internet? git clone http://git.bu3sch.de/git/b43-tools.git
[11:17] <jrib> Ven]n: impossible as it is on the internet...
[11:17] <Ven]n> that b43-tools.git is a folder with a bunch of files
[11:17] <zvacet> skysong:  I works better for me the jaunty
[11:17] <c0ld> I want to know how to restore my drivers for wifi
[11:17] <jrib> !wifi > Ven]n
[11:17] <Ven]n> jrib, I mean.. I can access it on this computer running windows
[11:17] <skysong> and its my first time using xubuntu.. wonderful.
[11:17] <jrib> Ven]n: git works on windows, but please see ubottu.
[11:18] <c0ld> Can someone please help me restore my drivers for my wireless card....?
[11:18] <eeE> holaa
[11:18] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[11:18] <eeE> hola
[11:18] <WishingMaster> jrib, there is no option for selecting GNOME or KDE , only tty1 is where i can login
[11:18] <napster> xingjiu: type alsamixer in terminal and keep volumes at the max...
[11:18] <napster> ubottu: Any idea...?
[11:18] <acgalindo> olaaa
[11:18] <eeE> ho9loaaaa
[11:18] <jacquesdupontd> i don't know how to make a launcher of chromium anonymous window
[11:18] <jrib> WishingMaster: ok, did you do what I said?
[11:18] <napster> iceroot: no no I got all those uris from synaptic and from a better internet connection can I download all the updates...?
[11:18] <c0ld> Can someone please help me restore my drivers for my wireless card....?
[11:18] <zvacet> !hi | eeE
[11:18] <Ven]n> jrib, uhm.. ive read the docs.. I need the git version
[11:18] <jacquesdupontd> it must be very easy
[11:18] <kohlrak> where do i find anacron's task list?
[11:18] <acgalindo> kelliii ??
[11:18] <eeE> cristionaaa¿?
[11:18] <jrib> Ven]n: doubtful but ok
[11:18] <jacquesdupontd> have checked on google but can't find it
[11:18] <acgalindo> olaaa
[11:18] <m3F> stranger_in, go to Gmail/Settings/Forwarding and POP/IMAP and at the bottom of that page click on "Configuration Instructions"
[11:19] <c0ld> Can someone please help me restore my drivers for my wireless card....?
[11:19] <acgalindo> eeooo
[11:19] <Ven]n> jrib, this is basically my issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8236348
[11:19] <eeE> cagalindi
[11:19] <bazhang> eeE, english here
[11:19] <kohlrak> c0ld, are you using windows drivers or native ubuntu drivers?
[11:19] <Ven]n> and that guy concluded that it wasnt possible :p
[11:19] <eeE>
[11:19] <c0ld> I was using native ubuntu drivers
[11:19] <c0ld> then I installed madwifi
[11:20] <c0ld> which was the wrong thing to install
[11:20] <c0ld> so I need to uninstall it
[11:20] <WishingMaster> jrib, the screen that appears after ubuntu logo is a console screen
[11:20] <acgalindo> hi. my name is Cristina !!
[11:20] <eeE> heee i dont talk english
[11:20] <kohlrak> c0ld, have you tried purging that package?
[11:20] <c0ld> and restore it back to the old drivers
[11:20] <m3F> stranger_in, when you were there, click on MailClients/Other and use that info to set Evolution properly
[11:20] <bazhang> eeE, spanish?
[11:20] <jrib> WishingMaster: so you do not see gdm at all?
[11:20] <c0ld> yes
[11:20] <WishingMaster> jrib nope
[11:20] <borno> join #ubuntu offline
[11:20] <eeE> siiiii spanish
[11:20] <Ven]n> jrib, so is git basically a tool to combine files into application?
[11:20] <jrib> WishingMaster: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:20] <Ven]n> like a compiler
[11:20] <reni__> hey guys! Can anyone tell me how to get my networking icon back on my taskbar?
[11:21] <acgalindo> hii !!
[11:21] <bazhang> eeE, /join #ubuntu-es
[11:21] <Sakara> Latest update just broke firefox. Anyone having the same issue?
[11:21] <eeE> e¿?
[11:21] <kohlrak> c0ld: hm... have you tried modprobing your old driver?
[11:21] <stranger_in> m3F: but i am not using<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:21] <bazhang> acgalindo, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[11:21] <c0ld> yes
[11:21] <kohlrak> !es | eeE
[11:21] <WishingMaster> jrib, what is command to open a file in console?
[11:21] <jrib> Ven]n: no.  git is a version control system, used for developing code.  You can fetch code, change it, and then merge changes.
[11:21] <c0ld> I just want to go back to the old drivers that ubuntu gave me and get rid of the madwifi I installed
[11:21] <acgalindo> speak spanish ??!!!!!!!
[11:21] <jrib> WishingMaster: you can use "less"
[11:21] <bazhang> acgalindo, /join #ubuntu-es
[11:21] <acgalindo> ESPANISH PLEASEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!11
[11:22] <reni__> How can I start the network manager?
[11:22] <eeE> ammm pero estoy en el colegio
[11:22] <kohlrak> !es | acgalindo
[11:22] <acgalindo> eeE
[11:22] <WishingMaster> jrib, less xorg.o.log is that correct?
[11:22] <acgalindo> como te llamas ?
[11:22] <acgalindo> yo tb estoi en el insti
[11:22] <acgalindo> !!
[11:22] <bazhang> eeE, acgalindo /join #ubuntu-es English here only
[11:22] <kohlrak> c0ld: did you rmmod the mad wifi driver?
[11:22] <acgalindo> xDD
[11:22] <c0ld> no
[11:22] <reni__> guys how can I start the network manager from terminal?
[11:22] <jrib> WishingMaster: your link just tells me about someone buying a card on ebay.  Later in that thread though, someone says the STA driver is working.  Does the STA driver available in System -> Administration -> Software Sources not work for you?
[11:23] <c0ld> wow
[11:23] <reni__> nice
[11:23] <Ven]n> jrib, the guide says "git clone http://git.bu3sch.de/git/b43-tools.git"  and "cd b43-tools/fwcutter" .. what I dont get is that theres no fwcutter in b43-tools.git
[11:23] <c0ld> lol
[11:23] <gasto> ubuntu won't boot because an entry in my fstab is not getting mounted. It also does not find the uuid for the device it seems. any suggestions?
[11:23] <jrib> WishingMaster: no, give the whole path with the correct capitalization
[11:23] <eeE> who you talk spanish?
[11:23] <reni__> very very nice split there...
[11:23] <acgalindo> yooo
[11:23] <c0ld> bots?
[11:23] <acgalindo> i
[11:23] <c0ld> spamming
[11:23] <jrib> Ven]n: you have to clone the repository first...
[11:23] <reni__> Nope, server split + autojoin ;-)
[11:23] <SwedeMike> reni__: not likely since they're not quitting
[11:23] <kohlrak> c0ld: try rebooting then. You can delete things in use on linux. So, it's likely the system needs to reload the network drivers.
[11:23] <SwedeMike> reni__: and they're clones.
[11:24] <jrib> SwedeMike: yeah
[11:24] <c0ld> I did reboot already kohlrak
[11:24] <reni__> maybe - I haven't used irc for a while - back in my days this used to happen when servers splitted ;-)
[11:24] <c0ld> I just want to restore my system drivers the way they were
[11:24] <Ven]n> jrib, ah, the easiest way is perhaps to download every single file in that folder.. install git on the linux computer.. and then run git clon b43-tools.git?
[11:24] <c0ld> when I installed ubuntu
[11:24] <rblst> reni__: nm-applet
[11:24] <eeE> crsitna¿?
[11:24] <WishingMaster> jrib what is the command to open a file in console window,pls give an example?
[11:24] <reni__> rblst, thanks
[11:24] <eeE> eeE
[11:24] <acgalindo> siii
[11:24] <SwedeMike> reni__: it still does, but one has to observe what the joining clients look like.
[11:24] <kohlrak> c0ld: then you'll need to find out what the driver is you need to use and what the driver is that you don't want. rmmod that driver you don't want then modprobe the one you want.
[11:25] <c0ld> ath5k
[11:25] <eeE> habals español¿?
[11:25] <reni__> rblst, I get an error when I type nm-applet
[11:25] <rags> Is there a way to configure sbackup to send mail alerts for every backup job completed?
[11:25] <c0ld> was the original driver
[11:25] <jrib> Ven]n: no.  Use git on windows and copy over the repository.  But you never answered my question about the STA driver....
[11:25] <c0ld> I want it back
[11:25] <rags> or failures for that matter
[11:25] <DJones> !es | eeE
[11:25] <jrib> WishingMaster: less /path/to/file
[11:25] <reni__> SwedeMike, I must admit I didn't pay attention to that ;-)
[11:25] <bazhang> eeE, please stop. we have told you many times
[11:25] <rblst> reni__: it's already running then
[11:25] <WishingMaster> jrib, ok
[11:26] <kohlrak> c0ld what is the name of the driver you don't want?
[11:26] <WishingMaster> jrib, is there a specific thing i should look for in xorg.log?
[11:26] <acgalindo> ESPANISH
[11:26] <acgalindo> ESPANISH
[11:26] <Ven]n> jrib, you didnt ask me about STA driver I think
[11:26] <beliveyourdream> hi ... is it possible to downgrade from karmic ?
[11:26] <acgalindo> SPANISH
[11:26] <jpds> !es | acgalindo
[11:26] <acgalindo> SPANISH
[11:26] <bazhang> acgalindo, we told you. please stop
[11:26] <reni__> rblst, I need to get my icon in the taskbar somehow... my girlfriend did something and it disappeared without a trace ;-) Besides the laptop doesn't seem to have any wifi scanning done at all since the icon disappeared - I think she did more than hiding the icon \
[11:26] <eeE> who  talk spanish???????????????????????????????
[11:26] <beliveyourdream> it doesn't work on my lappy
[11:26] <c0ld> kohlrak madwifi-ng
[11:26] <kohlrak> (odd though, ath5k sounds like an athlon driver for the power management)
[11:26] <reni__> eeE, no1 join #ubuntu-es
[11:26] <c0ld> is the driver I dont want
[11:26] <jrib> WishingMaster: there's no such thing as xorg.log.  It's /var/log/Xorg.0.log .  Capitalization is important.  You should probably pastebin it and include it in your problem description
[11:27] <jrib> !pastebinit | WishingMaster
[11:27] <kohlrak> c0ld: that's the actual driver. That's the package.
[11:27] <jrib> WishingMaster: your link just tells me about someone buying a card on ebay.  Later in that thread though, someone says the STA driver is working.  Does the STA driver available in System -> Administration -> Software Sources not work for you?
[11:27] <kohlrak> not the actual driver*
[11:27] <acgalindo> QUIEN ABLA ESPAÑOL ??
[11:27] <jrib> !es | acgalindo
[11:27] <bazhang> acgalindo, /join #ubuntu-es
[11:27] <c0ld> yah but how do I uninstall it and install the ath5k one
[11:27] <eeE> tengo 16 años y souçy very beatiful
[11:27] <rblst> reni__: add notification area to the panel, she may have removed it
[11:27] <c0ld> I dont know where they located
[11:27] <m3F> stranger_in, then i do not understand what you want
[11:27] <SwedeMike> ok, they've been told 10 times already, it's not going to help.
[11:28] <kohlrak> c0ld: first you gotta find the name of the driver you don't want (pick it out with lsmod)
[11:28] <m3F> stranger_in, if you want Evolution to use Gmail then you, of course, need a gmail acount
[11:28] <reni__> rblst, how do I do that? I'm not that familiar with Ubuntu yet...
[11:28] <kohlrak> rmmod disables that driver
[11:28] <kohlrak> then modprobe makes another driver start
[11:28] <c0ld> ok
[11:28] <stranger_in> m3F: i use google's custom mail account which offer me a mail id with name<EMAIL_ADDRESS>which has same interface as that of gmail
[11:28] <eeE> Im 16 years old and Im very beautiful
[11:28] <stuarticus> bearborg: no menu.lst Grub 1.87 different location?
[11:28] <rblst> reni__: right click the panel, add to panel
[11:28] <jpds> eeE: Please, not here.
[11:29] <reni__> rblst, when I right-click on the task bar and click "Add to panel" I get a list of programs, but nothing about networking...
[11:29] <stuarticus> bearborg: no menu.lst Grub 1.97 different location?
[11:29] <bazhang> eeE, please stop. or you will be removed
[11:29] <eeE> no here ???eso q es??
[11:29] <rblst> reni__: search for notification area, see if it is already on panel
[11:29] <kohlrak> until a flood bot gets ticked off, e won't be removed
[11:29] <DJones> eeE: acgalindo Please stop trolling
[11:29] <jpds> eeE: Aqui no. Esto es un canal de suporte.
[11:29] <m3F> stranger_in, then look in mysite.com for that information, they must have it
[11:29] <DannyButterman> eeE : you don't belong here obviously
[11:29] <jpds> bazhang: Aww. :(
[11:29]  * MenZa giggles at jpds
[11:29] <deehash> may somone help me with /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check cmd-line
[11:30] <jrib> deehash: help you do *wha*
[11:30] <stranger_in> m3F: k let me look....
[11:30] <reni__> rblst, ah thanks! Could you tell me how to enable wifi searching?
[11:30] <jrib> well "wha" works I guess, but I meant "what"
[11:30] <ubuntistas> which is the kde konsole, i mean how it is called ans how can i do un upgrade via it in kubuntu?
[11:30] <reni__> rblst, it seems that I won't be needing the last one - it's already working. Thanks a lot for the help provided
[11:30] <jrib> !upgrade > ubuntistas
[11:30] <bazhang> ubuntistas, it is called konsole
[11:30] <rblst> reni__: welcome
[11:31] <dygey> can someone help me?this is the first time i use linux...ubuntu:(
[11:31] <jrib> !ask | dygey
[11:31] <bazhang> dygey, help with what
[11:32] <ubuntistas> i wanna do an upgrade dor kubuntu 4.3.3
[11:32] <ubuntistas> i have 432
[11:32] <freckle> 9.10  system -> Administration -> Users and Groups will not change the user password, have to drop to shell and use passwd any ideas?
[11:32] <dygey> well...with almost everything
[11:32] <bazhang> dygey, please specify clearly
[11:32] <deehash>  <deehash> the command return me Reading package lists... Done\ Building dependency tree\ Reading state information... Done\ 11;22
[11:32] <rblst> reni__: if you right click on something placed on a panel, you can lock it to the panel, that way it is harder to remove it
[11:33] <jrib> dygey: so just ask an actual question
[11:33] <switchgirl1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/309365/  need help encypting my home directory
[11:33] <dygey> first i don't know how to configure pidgin for YM
[11:33] <reni__> rblst, already did that to prevent further investigations ;-) thanks though
[11:33] <ubuntistas> i wanna do an upgrade dor kubuntu 4.3.3 any clue?
[11:33] <dygey> i've almost set it up but it doesn't work
[11:33] <stuarticus> Grub overwritten MBR of main HD while installing to external drive, any fix from ubuntu?
[11:33] <jrib> dygey: I don't use YM, but try #pidgin if no one here knows
[11:34] <Bruc> anyone know to apply Different wallpapers for each workspace in ubuntu 9.10
[11:34] <zvacet> freckle: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[11:34] <dygey> ok
[11:34] <jrib> Bruc: you can do that in compiz using CCSM (or at least you could at one point).  Try #compiz
[11:34] <rblst> dygey: i recommend you to use gyache
[11:34] <coz_> Bruc,  are you running   gnome or kde and ar e you using compiz?
[11:34] <Bruc> gnome
[11:35] <Bruc> using compiz
[11:35] <dygey> another issue:how to install opera?i understood there are some commands typed somewhere
[11:35] <coz_> Bruc,  ok   understand that with compiz  and different wallpapers  you cannot have desktop icons and desktop right click will be disabled
[11:35] <Bruc> that tab is gone the background feature
[11:35] <dygey> where is that line to type
[11:35] <dygey> ?
[11:35] <freckle> zvacet: that is not really what I am asking..
[11:35] <jrib> !opera | dygey
[11:36] <coz_> Bruc,  if that is ok I can wall you t hrough  multiple wallpapers]
[11:36] <freckle> I want to know why the User and Group app doesn't work when you try and change a user password
[11:36] <freckle> is it a bug?
[11:36] <dygey> man,thanks...but it seems complicated for me
[11:36] <Bruc> ok
[11:36] <dygey> i am a newbie
[11:36] <rblst> dygey: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux
[11:37] <stuarticus> Grub overwritten MBR of main HD while installing to external drive, any fix from ubuntu? Anyone? Hopw about installing grub properly to main HD? anyone know how to do thi8s?
[11:37] <Bruc> coz go for it
[11:37] <zvacet> freckle:  isn't there option for manual set password
[11:37] <coz_> Bruc,  ok   open ccsm  go to the Utility category and enable the wallpaper plugin
[11:37] <rblst> dygey: you download the package to your release, and install it with gdebi, no line to type
[11:37] <freckle> zvacet: yes but it doesn't work
[11:38] <Bruc> ok done
[11:38] <coz_> Bruc,   then click on the wallpaper plugin to get into it's settings and you will see the "Backgrounds" field
[11:38] <freckle> zvacet: you log out after changing and you have to use old password to log back in
[11:38] <Bruc> ok
[11:38] <coz_> Bruc,   choose the wallpapers you want to use and then click the "New" button to inset them into the wallpaper plugin...the first one will be one viewport #1  etc
[11:38] <freckle> zvacet: only way to change is with passwd in shell, not good for my mom!
[11:38] <rblst> dygey: you will need the default package
[11:38] <dygey> rblst wtf is gdebi?is it so hard to understand that i don't know nothing?
[11:39] <dygey> i hardly got this channel for help
[11:39] <rblst> dygey: just download the package and you'll see what gdebi is
[11:39] <Bruc> ok got a few
[11:39] <zvacet> freckle: then you change it for her
[11:39] <CapeFear> hey
[11:39] <dygey> but it isn't helping guys
[11:39] <airforceguy> guys i used transmission to download a torrent file ..how do i know if it's downloaded already. the bar is full but it says it's seeding
[11:39] <dygey> ok
[11:39] <coz_> Bruc,  put those wallpapers into the wallapper plugin and let me know when you are finished with that
[11:39] <bazhang> dygey, did you download the package
[11:39] <dygey> don't bother
[11:39] <freckle> zvacet: is that the level of userfriendlyness?
[11:39] <CapeFear> how long does it take for ubuntu to be shipped to a big city in the U.S.?
[11:39] <llutz> airforceguy: seeding = upload
[11:40] <KenBW2> what is /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh and why doesn't it execute on install of ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[11:40] <Bruc> ok then what
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:40] <airforceguy> llutz: so it's downloaded already it's just sharing with others..?
[11:40] <jrib> !who | dygey
[11:40] <rblst> !gdebi | dygey
[11:40] <llutz> airforceguy: yes
[11:40] <coz_> KenBW2,  that is for playing dvds   and the added stuff are the needed things for that as well
[11:41] <coz_> Bruc,   ok open a terminal        gconf-editor
[11:41] <zvacet> freckle:  I don't know any other option but that doesn't mean there is no any I 'm trying to help you as I can
[11:41] <tstebut> Hello, I need help with ssh HostbasedAuthentification
[11:41] <jrib> KenBW2: legal reasons...
[11:41] <dygey> still here
[11:41] <freckle> zvacet: ok thanks for you input.
[11:41] <Bruc> done
[11:41] <coz_> Bruc,  maneuver  to   /apps/nautilus/preferences
[11:41] <zvacet> freckle: np
[11:41] <rblst> dygey: have you downloaded the package?
[11:41] <KenBW2> jrib: aren't there legal issues to installing MP3 codecs and such as well?
[11:41] <jrib> KenBW2: no
[11:41] <coz_> Bruc,   in the right pane  look for     show_desktop   and disable that  and your wallpapers should show up immediately
[11:42] <dygey> rblst if i knew how,i will
[11:42] <KenBW2> jrib: what's the legal issues attached to the css stuff?
[11:42] <zvacet> KenBW2: depend where you live
[11:42] <bazhang> dygey, he gave you a link
[11:42] <rblst> dygey: okay, let's do it step-by-step
[11:42] <dygey> thanks for  help i will try it on my own
[11:42] <KenBW2> zvacet: UK - does the DMCA not apply to me?
[11:42] <san123> can someone please help me my bluetoth device is disabled how do i enable?
[11:42] <jrib> KenBW2, zvacet: exactly.  It's very merky in some places.  Ask a lawyer for legal advice
[11:42] <san123> i have a pic where do i uploadi t?
[11:42] <coz_> san123,   picpaste.com
[11:43] <bidossessi> hi all
[11:43] <jrib> murky even
[11:43] <KenBW2> jrib: is that saying "we know it's illegal but if we admit it it makes us breaking the law"?
[11:43] <coz_> Bruc,   working now?
[11:43] <rblst> dygey: can i pm you?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> san123: if you run: lsmod | grep bt    do you see btusb?
[11:43] <bidossessi> how can i move my grub to grub2 and get some fb graphic love on bootup?
[11:43] <zvacet> KenBW2:  I don't know but you will find out very soon because I believe here is more then one British user
[11:43] <Bruc> yes awesome...th coz
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | bidossessi
[11:43] <dygey> rblst if know how to pm me,please do
[11:43] <coz_> bidossessi,   you might  want to go to #grub channel
[11:44] <coz_> Bruc,   cool :)
[11:44] <jrib> KenBW2: it's not illegal as it's never gone to court anywhere I know of.  But it's certainly of questinable legality.  Anyway, that's where we stand.  If you need dvd support, you can obtain it from the medibuntu repositories
[11:44] <coz_> Bruc,  also
[11:44] <dygey> and if i can see your pm....
[11:44] <san123> please help guyz! http://www.picpaste.com/bluetoth.png
[11:44] <coz_> Bruc,   there is a script to install  about 20 new plugins in compiz  some experimental all work well
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> san123: is the module loaded?
[11:44] <Bruc> this a  cool ..
[11:45] <KenBW2> san123: right-click the bluetooth icon in the notification area
[11:45] <coz_> Bruc,  would you like to intstall the extra plugins for compiz?
[11:45] <jrib> Bruc: you'll get bored in a couple of days ;)
[11:45] <CapeFear> how long does it take for ubuntu to be shipped to a place in the u.s. from shipit.ubuntu.com?
[11:45] <Bruc> probably..hehe
[11:45] <marvelousbob> Could anyone help me disable the 'sync' option on an auto-mounted usb drive? Trying to create a bootable usb stick for intalling ubuntu using usb-creator and it's abysmally slow, the wiki says that if this is the case sync should be disabled, however googling results in no useful results as to how to do it.
[11:45] <KenBW2> jrib: so according the DMCA it's illegal, but it's never been tried?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> san123: ok does the bluetooth device show as loading ok in    dmesg | less
[11:46] <eps_> i can't seem to move files that where the filename contains a colon
[11:46] <san123> ya i did then i went to preferences but it is disabled there and no option to enable
[11:46] <eps_> any ideas on how I can fix this ?
[11:46] <coz_> Bruc, also when in irc and you want to have the person you are talking to highlighted for them   type the first few letters of their nick  and hit the tab button to complet it  then type your message
[11:46] <san123> what do i do to enable?
[11:46] <jrib> KenBW2: I'm not a lawyer
[11:46] <reni__> my firefox crashes on photos upload @ facebook on Ubuntu 9.10 32bit. Any Ideas anyone? I just installed the flash and java plugins for firefox. Do I need reboot?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> reni__: reinstall java
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> reni__: the fancy uploader uses java, you need the sun java, open java  makes things messy
[11:47] <reni__> ActionParsnip, through firefox or through terminal?
[11:47] <zvacet> reni__:  from synaptic
[11:47] <KenBW2> jrib: assumedly libdvdread4 was built from scratch using non-proprietary code?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> reni__: however, just get the sun java installed
[11:47] <Deathvalley122> ubuntu on a external drive = FTW?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !java | reni__
[11:47] <reni__> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: good for testing
[11:48] <reni__> thanks
[11:48] <jrib> KenBW2: no idea.  Presumably...
[11:48] <Deathvalley122> lol
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> reni__: or you can use the basic uploader which uses html
[11:48] <san123> someone please reply! http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_2.png
[11:48] <Deathvalley122> ActionParsnip: I might try it ...
[11:48] <san123> see my bluetooth is showing disabled http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_2.png how do i enable
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: usb is god slow compared to internal connection, usb is bursty as hell too so makes it even slower
[11:48] <reni__> how do I uninstall open java?
[11:48] <jrib> reni__: how did you install it?
[11:49] <reni__> jrib, firefox did that for me.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> reni__: search for java in add /remove apps, yuo can remove it that way
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> reni__: use the java factoid to install sun java
[11:49] <KenBW2> san123: people would probably be more willing to help if you weren't demanding it
[11:49] <Bruc> coz_, thanks
[11:49] <coz_> Bruc,   no problem :)
[11:49] <san123> KenBW2, what do you mean?
[11:49] <Deathvalley122> what if it's a 2.0 ActionParsnip?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> san123: did you read through   dmesg |  less     it will show the device coming online and getting loaded (if it is)
[11:50] <coz_> Bruc,  if at some point you want to try the extra plugins let me know or meet me in  #compiz   channel :)
[11:50] <KenBW2> san123: be a little more courteous
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: there is zero buffering in usb 2, firewire is much better over prolonged transfers
[11:50] <san123> KenBW2, ok
[11:50] <Bruc> ActionParsnip, hey
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: which is what makes firewir kick the ass off usb
[11:50] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: looking at the response to deathvalley compared to a normal sata drive wouldnt usb be slightly faster? at least a flash drive
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> hi Bruc
[11:51] <Deathvalley122> lol ActionParsnip I don't have firewire port :(
[11:51] <Bruc> coz_, did that work
[11:51] <ajah> my provider gives a me username and password and service name witch i`m suppose to use to make pppoe connection , failed making connection trought network manager and pppoe in terminal so i installed wicd but it doesn`t seems that i can make pppoe connection with it , any help ?
[11:51] <coz_> Bruc,  did what work?  the nick thingy ?  yes
[11:51] <Bruc> yes did it
[11:51] <ubuntistas> how can i do un upgrade to kubuntu to 4.3.3 version?
[11:51] <ajah> i windowz boxes manage to make this connection except me
[11:51] <Bruc> cool
[11:52] <ajah> all*
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: sata has some phenominal speed, usb is still god slow but is pretty usable
[11:52] <san123> now can you help?  http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot-3.png
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: its very usable, just not as fast as sata
[11:52] <coz_> Bruc,   the only thing is remembering to use the person's nick to get their attention:)  otheriwise it is just a bunch of text streaming by fast  lol
[11:52] <airforceguy> guys i downloaded a os from pirate bay and trying to burn it into a cd ...should i burn it as an image or video. or date..? i am going to install this os ....also i can not find the file as an image
[11:52] <tarzeau> airforceguy: which os?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> airforceguy: none, just open the iso with your CD burning software and it willwork it out
[11:53] <airforceguy> windows 7
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> airforceguy: make sure you md5 check the iso too
[11:53] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: you wouldnt try using or working with ubuntu on an external hard drive?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i have done its not bad
[11:53] <beatbreaker> what program can i use to do wireless channel sniffing?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> san123: use the cursors to scroll the terminal up and down to read the text
[11:54] <airforceguy> actionparsnip: say it again...the file is sitting on my desktop the icon is like a note icon
[11:54] <san123> then?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> san123: read
[11:54] <ubuntistas> how can i do un upgrade to kubuntu to 4.3.3 version?
[11:54] <ubuntistas> iam in kde now
[11:54] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: did you have any issues when you installed grub
[11:54] <reni__> ActionParsnip, do I need to reboot after instaling sun java?
[11:54] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys this time maybe you'll answer me, do you know how to manage services in karmic coala and even better if you have a page wich describe what do disable or not on karmic
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> airforceguy: you open the iso with your burner and it will see its an iso and put the data on the disk correctly, you could also tell it to burn the iso if it has the option
[11:55] <Deathvalley122> rein_: no
[11:55] <Deathvalley122> just restart firefox
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> airforceguy: make sure you md5 test the ISO first, make sure it is complete and error free
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> reni__: as Deathvalley122 says, reboots are for windows and new kernels only
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: no was fine
[11:56] <coz_> maube also installation of nvidia drivers
[11:56] <cow9000> is there a way i can run the installation program using an already installed system so i can install ubuntu on an external HDD?
[11:56] <reni__> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[11:56] <cow9000> other than the live USB disk way
[11:56] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: will have to give it a shot :) this sounds promising :) can use the 80gb hdd as dev hard disk
[11:56] <ubuntistas> how can i do un upgrade to kubuntu to 4.3.3 version? i have 4.3.2
[11:56] <cow9000> USB Startup Disk Creator
[11:57] <san123> ok so tell me what do i do?
[11:57] <Deathvalley122> eagles0513875: it does sounds interesting
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: the live cd has a usb installer which will handle stuff for you
[11:57] <jacquesdupontd> PLEASE, i never have answers those last days and i'm helping many people, How to manage services on karmic ?
[11:57] <coz_> ubuntistas,  which version of ubuntu?
[11:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: usb install which one
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> san123: read the text and you will see your bluetooth device coming online and being installed
[11:57] <eagles0513875> !patience | jacquesdupontd
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> san123: as well as any issues it may be having
[11:57] <Guest27176> i downloaded mp3 file on my nokia, but the lenght of it is in nokia smaller in 18 minutes. The size stayed same. Any idea how i could manage download in full lenght?
[11:57] <san123> ActionParsnip, ok
[11:57] <jtz]blue> how can i enable ctrl alt backspace
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/alternatehardyinstallation-large_002.png
[11:58] <cow9000> i want to install a whole system on this external HDD, not just a live cd image
[11:58] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: can u use unetbootin to install it to the usb external drive or the built in usb installer that comes with ubuntu
[11:58] <jrib> !dontzap | jtz]blue
[11:58] <coz_> jtz]blue,  you really dont want to use that
[11:58] <jacquesdupontd> eagles0513875, thx at least you answered me but it's quite boring and i understand that everybody is trying to help others makes 5 years that i'm on this channel but really nobody is never answering me and im asking very simple question
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> jtz]blue: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[11:58] <coz_> jtz]blue,   it does not shutdown applications properly including gnome  nautilus etc
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> jrib: dontzap doesnt work in karmic afaik
[11:58] <root> hi
[11:58] <jacquesdupontd> eagles0513875, do you know where is the service manager in Karmic coala ?
[11:58] <jrib> ActionParsnip: ah
[11:58] <airforceguy> how do u md5 a file?
[11:58] <ubuntistas> how can i do un upgrade to kubuntu to 4.3.3 version? i have 4.3.2
[11:58] <jrib> jtz]blue: note ActionParsnip
[11:58] <coz_> jtz]blue,   in terminal     killall5
[11:58] <eagles0513875> jacquesdupontd: services you can enable or disable depending on what you need. i use kde so i dunno
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | airforceguy
[11:59] <eagles0513875> ubuntistas: ask in #kubuntu
[11:59] <jtz]blue> i no what it dose
[11:59] <Guest77313> hi
[11:59] <san123> ActionParnip, i got this but still that same thing is coming it is still showing disabled
[11:59] <jtz]blue> i run gentoo on big pc
[11:59] <san123> ActionParsnip, http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot-4.png
[11:59] <jacquesdupontd> eagles0513875, i know how works services, but usually before you had a software to manage services natively installed on ubuntu (gnome)
[11:59] <airforceguy> if you prompted with a message saying should files be renamed to be fully windows compatible? what do i do
[11:59] <jacquesdupontd> eagles0513875, and it seems it disapeared since 9.10
[11:59] <coz_> jtz]blue,  ok   well I am not sure on karmic  but I do know that killall5  will do about the same thing
[12:00] <eagles0513875> jacquesdupontd: should be somewhere under settings or administration if im not mistaken
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> san123: if you use a pastebin, its a little faster than image as text is smaller in size
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> san123: ok so its being detected
[12:00] <jacquesdupontd> eagles0513875, i know very well ubuntu and i've been searching
[12:00] <jacquesdupontd> eagles0513875, i'm gonna try that synaptic to see if a package is existing for installing it
[12:00] <jmut> hi folks  friend of mine   is having weird issues with pulseaudio.     Questions is how  can he swap to alsa or something?
[12:00] <zealore> how do you enable timestamps in empathy?
[12:00] <AdvoWork> is there any way i access files through a browse dialog box,ie opening files, that are from a samba share?
[12:01] <san123> ActionParsnip, ya it is detected i came here yesterday for 1 hour but i dint got help
[12:01] <zvacet> jacquesdupontd:  is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1272747&page=3 of any help
[12:01] <ziroday> jacquesdupontd: when you type "services-admin" into a terminal what happens?
[12:01] <Nirkus> hi! where can i configure whether or not a users home will be encrypted after the account has already been created?
[12:02] <jacquesdupontd> ziroday, that's the first thing i tried does not exist
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> san123: ok try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install bluez bluetooth
[12:02] <ziroday> jacquesdupontd: okay, its possible it could of been removed. Unfortunately I don't have a karmic machine to test one
[12:02] <Tesssa> at last 9.10 is installed
[12:03] <jacquesdupontd> ziroday, hehe funny to see how everybody escaped from karmic
[12:03] <Guest27176>  i downloaded mp3 file on my nokia, but the length of it is in nokia smaller in 18 minutes. The size stayed same. Any idea how i could manage download in full length
[12:03] <digifor> Why am I getting a flickering command line interface with a British Pound sign on Karmic on my iMac?
[12:04] <jacquesdupontd> ziroday, i can say that when you know a bit about how to set it good it runs perfectly for me it is even better than 9.04
[12:04] <jtz]blue> ok sweet it works
[12:04] <Deathvalley122> Karmic is still buggy in my opinion jacquesdupontd
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> digifor: fresh install?
[12:04] <digifor> upgrade
[12:04] <ziroday> jacquesdupontd: I know of various command line utilities to do the job such as sysv-rc-conf
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: +1, ive seen a lot of issues, but many OSs are the same with new release
[12:04] <coz_> Deathvalley122,   I agree  but  ..there it is :)
[12:04] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, everybody is saying that and i was even the first one to tell it but could you give me example ?
[12:05] <digifor> When I type it goes all over the screen
[12:05] <Deathvalley122> jacquesdupontd: sure
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> digifor: ok thats cool, can you boot to root recovery console then manually launch: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:05] <zealore> less than 10 minutes into using Karmic i clicked a link in firefox and everything except the power button froze
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> zealore: could you not restart the x server
[12:05] <zjr1113> who can give me a ssh shell account?
[12:05] <Deathvalley122> like my dvd drive it goes bonkers in karmic jacquesdupontd
[12:05] <zjr1113> thanks
[12:05] <jacquesdupontd> ziroday, yeah i know this way to do it too but i was just curious why they didn't let that simple tool then is not as performant as a sysv-rc-conf but wich was working pretty well for nubies
[12:06] <zealore> no, the keyboard was frozen
[12:06] <Tesssa> information for anyone with the same problem.. on a upgrade from 9.14 to 9.10 sticking at the login window not recognising your password.. i reinstalled 9.04 and in the login window click automatic login ad do the upgrade again
[12:06] <jacquesdupontd> newbies
[12:06] <Tesssa> it worked for me
[12:06] <S4nD3r> Hi there!  I dont use usb
[12:06] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, phone call
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> oops, bluetooth
[12:07] <llutz> zjr1113: http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=free+ssh+accounts
[12:07] <Deathvalley122> jacquesdupontd: what?
[12:07] <san123> :( hmmmm 3 days still dint got help anyways thanx for trying Action
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> zjr1113: your account you log onto ubuntu is the account you use
[12:08] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, i'm with my gf on the phone but i'm gonna continue to answer you
[12:08] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, lemme 5 minutes, but i can't see how a distribution can broke a DVD reader
[12:09] <Deathvalley122> okay jacquesdupontd
[12:09] <ziroday> jacquesdupontd: I think you'll find gnome upstream removed it
[12:09] <tj83> can you use ssh rsa keys on more than one server?
[12:09] <kiosk> ubuntu
[12:09] <airforceguy> is there a reason ubuntu picks up wifi faster than windows or it's just me and it should not make any difference what OS you have...
[12:09] <S4nD3r> Hi there! So, when I try to use synaptic, settings/repositories, nothing happens, how to solve it?
[12:09] <ziroday> jacquesdupontd: and therefore most/all of the new distro's moving to the newer gnome will face the same issue
[12:09] <S4nD3r> ops, sory
[12:09] <S4nD3r> sorry
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> airforceguy: depends on drivers I guess
[12:10] <tj83> airforceguy, i think its just you... i actually think my hardware scans slower than in windows ... all is different
[12:10] <digifor> ActionParsnip, script ...has been converted to an Upstart job...?
[12:10] <_gm> Hi all
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> digifor: huh?
[12:10] <Tesssa> but i must  admit i do prefer 9.04 but will stck with this for now
[12:10] <_gm> i was experimenting ubuntu-netbook-remix package yesterday
[12:10] <ziroday> jacquesdupontd: I would love to chase it up for you, but am rather busy at the moment
[12:10] <_gm> now problem is i just can't get rid of netbook-remix on my karmic koala
[12:11] <tj83> anyone know if i can take SSH RSA keys and import them to multiple servers?
[12:11] <_gm> though i did purge remove ubuntu-netbook-remix package, removed my home directory and logged in again
[12:11] <_gm> but i still see netbook-remix panel above :-s
[12:11] <digifor> It is giving a really long error message.
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> tj83: dont see why not
[12:12] <Guest35786> hi how can i make from /home/peter/1f43a588-70a9-464e-af54-af91ef0cfb52/ to /home/peter/disc1 it is in 9.10 and external HDD normally in 9.04 no problem
[12:13] <tj83> ActionParsnip, never used them before, if the OS changes on the client does the RAS key also? does it stay the same because its generated off the hardware ?
[12:13] <Guest35786> * sorry no /home/ but /media/
[12:14] <Nirkus> hi! where can i configure whether or not a users home will be encrypted after the account has already been created? please hilight
[12:14] <leagris> Hello, can you help about new karming sound settings? I can't get proper 5.1 stable output
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> tj83: ive not used keys but I cant see why you cant put your key on multiple servers to ease logons
[12:15] <zealore> does anyone know how to make Empathy display timestamps next to each message?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> leagris: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/the-simple-way-to-get-51-surround-sound-audio-working-in-ubuntu/
[12:15] <MenZa> zealore: Check out the Themes section.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> leagris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[12:16] <Nirkus> !help
[12:16] <zealore> i tried the 4 installed themes, can't see any difference between them
[12:16] <Nirkus> !encryption
[12:16] <Nirkus> !encryptedhomes
[12:16] <i_is_broke> !info encryption
[12:16] <Nirkus> !ecryptfs
[12:17] <dubyah> i'm fairly new to using linux, as in i've had it for a few days. i do like it better than windows mainly cause i have yet to crash, but there are still lots of programs i cannot run.
[12:17] <Nirkus> !info ecryptfs
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dubyah: apps like what?
[12:17] <joel_> Does anyone know a good prp
[12:17] <MikeChelen> dubyah: try using wine to run windows programs, there are often good linux alternatives too
[12:17] <joel_> good program to monitor heat in my laptop?
[12:18] <ziroday> joel_: sensors-applet?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> joel_: lm-sensors   and xsensors
[12:18] <Nirkus> !info ecryptfs-utils
[12:18] <joel_> ziroday: thanks
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> dubyah: some apps may like wine but you will get a smoother experience with native apps
[12:18] <joel_> ActionParsnip: thx
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !sensors
[12:19] <dubyah> yah i do have wine installed on my pc, still learning exactly how to use it correctly though.
[12:19] <i_is_broke> Nirkus, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014891
[12:19] <ahtmly2k> could anyone help me, i have installed kde on my ubuntu system with all the stuff that came with it out of curiosity.. now i'm kinda tired of it and i never use it anyway.. how do i remove it..? i would like to stick with gnome.
[12:19] <mnemoc> hi, I had a functional multihead in 9.04 (intel driver) but with the upgrade to 9.10 the LCD panel of the notebook is ON but black. GDM used to be in the notebook, now it's on the VGA. xrandr insist both are working and the size of the screen is also ok. any idea why it's black? :(
[12:19] <Holek> hi, guys
[12:19] <DJones> !puregnome | ahtmly2k
[12:19] <kevdog> tj83: Yes you can take the SSH key and install on multiple computers.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | dubyah
[12:20] <Holek> any reason why devkit-disks-daemon would eat up to 30% of processor time?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> dubyah: just right click the exe then select open with wine
[12:20] <dubyah> ok ty kindly all.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> dubyah: check the appdb to see if the app is compatible though, not all apps run
[12:20] <ahtmly2k> will do.. thanks.. i'll try that..
[12:20] <hellyeah> hey
[12:20] <dubyah> ok
[12:20] <hellyeah> nooen answer on openoffice channel
[12:21] <hellyeah> can i ask a question about openoffice
[12:21] <Nirkus> i_is_broke: ubuntu already ships with home directory encryption. i just want to disable it for an already existing and account ith an already encrypted home dir
[12:21] <hassanakevazir> !ask
[12:21] <acuster> hey all, is there some document somewhere that explains the koala printing chain. I can't generate a correct A3 print no matter how I tweak things.
[12:21] <angelus> folks ... anyone here know how to put my computer to sleep through the command line in Karmic ?? (i.e. suspend)
[12:21] <fcuk112> i have an online shop and would like to send a promotion email to my customers. what is a good newsletter management tool for ubuntu?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: sure
[12:21] <JonathanEllis> I would be grateful for some advice about partitioning. I have two physical disks and I am trying to decide between two alternative partitioning schemes which are shown at http://pastebin.com/d3700b50f. Can you please help me decide which to use. I would be interested to discuss the relative merits of both schemes. Thanks for your consideration.
[12:21] <kohlrak> angelus man shutdown
[12:21] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip,
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: ask the channel
[12:22] <angelus> kohlrak thanks ..
[12:22] <hellyeah> i just install openoffice from sourcebecause i dont have root priviledges
[12:22] <kohlrak> angelus:you'll find other goodies there too
[12:22] <hellyeah> there is lots of .rpm file
[12:22] <hellyeah> how can i work that
[12:22] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, ok i'm here again, i would like to try to help you to show you karmic is a good version of ubuntu, many things changed that's true and that's always the same when there's a lot of changing we dislike it on the beginning and then we understand it
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: you dont use rpm
[12:23] <pigor> hello. i am looking for a channel to solve a problem with my virtual server hosted by 1&1.
[12:23] <Deathvalley122> jacquesdupontd: I don't dislike it I just find more bugs is all
[12:23] <JonathanEllis> hellyeah: All you need to do to install openoffice is sudo apt-get install openoffice.org. The sudo bit will give you root priviledges. Building from source is not recommended unless you really know what you are doing.
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: if you run: groups    are you a member of the admin group?
[12:24] <acuster> JonathanEllis, your disks are the same speed?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> JonathanEllis: thats what i'm going for but s/he may not be able to use sudo due to groups
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: do you see the word admin?
[12:25] <hellyeah> word admin
[12:25] <hellyeah> who is that
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: in a terminal, type: groups   then press enter
[12:26] <illovae> heya
[12:26] <acuster> JonathanEllis, your setup 1 has the advantage of allowing you to do a clean install if you need to someday
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: you will see a list of groups you are the member of
[12:26] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, you agree with me that a new update can't change you're dvd reader no ? i've noticed something btw i had made an direct dist-upgrade from 9.04 and i was not happy and thinking it was comming from the upgrade, i backed up and made a brand new install and it was working a lot better for me, maybe that's a clue. But i also had some problems with some drivers but some drivers were also reconised directly that wa
[12:26] <jacquesdupontd> s not reconised on last updates
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: do you see the word "admin"?
[12:26] <Holek> again, why would devkit-disks-daemon eat up to 30% of my CPU time? it wasn't happening prior to today's upgrades
[12:26] <Deathvalley122> I don't like idea of karmic not supporting my dvd drive or at least I think it is at any cost I have to unmount the stupid thing when I hit eject button cause I think it gets stuck on not unmounting when I eject a disk
[12:26] <apassi> hi, how to specify specified version for apt-get install ? apt-show-versions show for my openssl that there is two version 0.9.8g-14 and 0.9.8g-15+lenny5, now i need to install this lenny, how to do it?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: tried ejecting from nautilus?
[12:27] <acuster> JonathanEllis, I keep my /home separate and have 3 different root partitions for the current and 2 last versions of my os which allows me to recover easily to a known good operating system when need be
[12:27] <bazhang> apassi, in debian?
[12:27] <apassi> bazhang:
[12:27] <Deathvalley122> jacquesdupontd: I did a clean install and the issue still persists
[12:27] <apassi> bazhang: yeah
[12:27] <hassanakevazir> JonathanEllis, First one seems pretty good without the extra partition crammed in the 40GB disk.
[12:27] <bazhang> apassi, #debian for debian questions
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: its not a hard task, a single word command in a terminal
[12:27] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, what i want to say afterall is all those problems like any problem on a computer can be solved and with ubuntu most of the time easily and when your hardware is working good you can appreciate "karmic" as what it is
[12:27] <apassi> bazhang: damit :D wrong channel. =)
[12:27] <apassi> bazhang: thanks
[12:27] <Deathvalley122> ActionParsnip: anything I do I get my logs filled up with error messages
[12:28] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, do you understand what i'm trying to mean ?*
[12:28] <Joewonder> hi there
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: nice
[12:28] <acuster> JonathanEllis, so I also would recommend your scheme 1
[12:28] <sampo> hello
[12:28] <kevdog> apassi: Why -- most of the kernel will still be based on the openssl version used during the compile
[12:28] <sampo> I need assistance with my lexmark z605 printer...
[12:28] <JonathanEllis> acuster: Good question. I have three disks available to use: (1) Hitachi Deskstar HDS728040PLAT20 41.1GB 7200RPM, (2) Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 40GB (3) Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 120GB. I dont know the speeds of the Maxtors but I will google that
[12:28] <Deathvalley122> jacquesdupontd: I do
[12:29] <Deathvalley122> I appreciate all the hard work they put into it
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> sampo: can you expand please, does it not instal? is it only printing blue?
[12:29] <leagris> thanks for the help about 5.1 ill will reboot and retry
[12:29] <sampo> I fowwloed the instruction "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714"
[12:29] <Deathvalley122> but any cost I do not know the reason why my dvd drive occurs issues in karmic
[12:29] <sampo> but it says job could not be printed...
[12:29] <S4nD3r> Where is "Add/Remove Software"? Im my ubuntu, theres no this
[12:30] <S4nD3r> How to install it?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> sampo: i found this: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z600_Series
[12:30] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, you would have come to me i would have helped you and it would be fixed, i have the quality/default to never let down something not working or not finished or not fixed, i'm not the type of guy that doesn't install last versions just to have a stable and known os, it took me approx 2 days to set it perfectly
[12:30] <kevdog> S4nD3r, install what?
[12:31] <sampo> ok, thanks I will try that one for now...be soon back...thanx again
[12:31] <S4nD3r> The option to add/remove software in my applications menu
[12:31] <Deathvalley122> lol jacquesdupontd I do have a forum posted on it if you want to take a look
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> S4nD3r: use software-center instead
[12:31] <kevdog> S4nD3r, You usually install software from repositories mostly
[12:31] <S4nD3r> ??
[12:31] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, why not , always curious :)
[12:31] <S4nD3r> synaptic is crashed
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> S4nD3r: its whats replacing add/remove
[12:31] <S4nD3r> dont work repositories
[12:31] <Deathvalley122> jacquesdupontd:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8193361
[12:31] <stuarticus> What's happened to portable device install? I can't find it in Karmic
[12:31] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, first i wanna know was it working perfectly on 9.04 for example ?
[12:31] <bidossessi> i'm dualbooting ubuntu and a few other OSes. can i tell grub2 to use ubuntu's root partition so as not to mess with my existing stuff? it could be done with former versions but i just want to check if it's still possible, with the new grub and all...
[12:32] <Deathvalley122> yes it was jacquesdupontd
[12:32] <Deathvalley122> I have also notice they have removed alsamixer from karmic
[12:32] <S4nD3r> when I try to use synaptic, settings/repositories, nothing happens, how to solve it?
[12:33] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, seems it comes from a link to automounted devices, like it was taking your dvd drive as an external drivers like a usb key
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> S4nD3r: sudo apt-get --reinstall install synaptic    maybe
[12:34] <Hagus> Just popped back in, TML, to say that having rebooted, my system seems to have survived and working better than ever.
[12:34] <Deathvalley122> yea but it's not a external dvd drive jacquesdupontd
[12:34] <damo> hi all got a question
[12:34] <Deathvalley122> lol
[12:34] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, i'm pretty sure that was the problem cause it already happened to me some years ago
[12:34] <hassanakevazir> S4nD3r, You can use the new "Software Center" or in terminal write: "sudo apt-get install gnome-app-install" and then run "gnome-app-install" to use the old Add remove software program
[12:34] <damo> can someone help me please
[12:34] <kevdog> !ask
[12:34] <bidossessi> !meta
[12:34] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, i understand but just to tell it could have been fixed easily
[12:34] <flan_suse> How do I remove/hide the devices under "Computer" and "Places" menu? For example, I see the icons for my encrypted partitions, when they are already mounted. I want to hide these icons. (I am not referring to the desktop icons.)
[12:34] <damo> i am trying to get camfrog video chat to open with wine but when it does it crashes
[12:35] <airforceguy> ok ubuntu has offically messed me, it changed the format of my HD so it's not windows compatiable anymore...if i delete ubuntu will it go back to the same HD format....It says it should be NFS readable...and also i think ubuntu has crashed my HD i can not find my c and d drives not even in windows....
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> S4nD3r: could try running: gksudo synaptic    from a terminal to get intelligent outputs
[12:35] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, could even come from a bad reconisation of your motherboard and not the dvd  itself
[12:35] <damo> airforece if u delete it yes it will go back to same format
[12:35] <Deathvalley122> hmm I don't know if this is a bug or what cause I filed it as a bug jacquesdupontd
[12:36] <damo> cause i had the same problem once
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> damo: is it compatible with wine? did you check the appdb?
[12:36] <jacquesdupontd> yes i saw but really if it's what made you rollback that's sad cause we could have fixed it without many pain
[12:36] <Deathvalley122> and I seem to not get any response from the dev
[12:36] <damo> no i didnt action
[12:36] <damo> i dont know how too
[12:36] <bidossessi> i'm dualbooting ubuntu and a few other OSes. during installation, can i tell grub2 to use ubuntu's root partition so as not to mess with my existing stuff?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !appdb |  damo
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> damo: not all apps run with wine, some even refuse to install
[12:37] <xl> hello
[12:37] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, that's because dev people are attacked by everybody all the day since karmic went out
[12:37] <sealview> Hello xl
[12:37] <xl> ci sono Italiani ??
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> why do so many not give a simple "thanks" so frustrating
[12:37] <bidossessi> !it
[12:38] <xl> grazie per l'informazione,è la prima volta che uso questo programma...
[12:38] <bidossessi> ActionParsnip, too much in a hurry to go try what they were just told?
[12:38] <bazhang> xl /join #ubuntu-it
[12:38] <Deathvalley122> jacquesdupontd: ya know what's funny though everbody seem to have sound issues in karmic I never had the problem except I get a different volume controller
[12:38] <PaulChater> Hey guys.
[12:38] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, i can even tell you that karmic is one of the best ubuntu version for me when it's working, my prolem was more with the ati card but it was the same problem on 9.04 cause of the new xorg 7.4
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> bidossessi: hmm, still simple manners seem forgotten, its a sad world
[12:39]  * bidossessi nods
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !hi | PaulChater
[12:39] <flan_suse> How do I remove/hide the devices under "Computer" and "Places" menu? For example, I see the icons for my encrypted partitions, when they are already mounted. I want to hide these icons. (I am not referring to the desktop icons.)
[12:39] <S4nD3r> ActionParsnip, gksudo synaptic does nothing different.
[12:39] <S4nD3r> hassanakevazir, where is Software Center?
[12:39] <angelus> S4nD3r Applications>at the bottom of the list
[12:39] <sealview> S4nD3r under the Administration
[12:39] <bazhang> S4nD3r, applications -->software centre
[12:40] <zealiod> if i have a network device configured as <IP_ADDRESS> on lan directly connected to eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>) - should i be able to ping it?
[12:40] <angelus> oh sorry ..
[12:40] <hassanakevazir> sealview, no its not
[12:40] <PaulChater> Just wondering if any of you have had problems with Firefox under 64 Bit Karmic.... Basically what's happening is when I open it, it just ends up closing immediately, I don't even get to see the ubuntu google page.
[12:40] <Deathvalley122> well I can't burn anything jacquesdupontd cause of my dvd drive issue :(
[12:40] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, if you search or even ask here for someone to help you with ati cards and drivers and settings you can be pretty sure nobody will help
[12:40] <eL_pSycHo> Deathvalley122: does yourh CD/DVD drive not automount disks???
[12:40] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, i understand that's really problematic
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> S4nD3r: does the terminal give any clues
[12:41] <jacquesdupontd> Deathvalley122, but are you still on karmic can we still try to fix the bug ?
[12:41] <iceroot> PaulChater: start it from terminal and look at the debug-messages
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Deathvalley122: does it detect ok at boot? check    dmesg | less
[12:41] <Deathvalley122> eL_pSycHo: it seems so
[12:41] <Deathvalley122> yes I am
[12:41] <Deathvalley122> I never changed
[12:41] <Deathvalley122> lol
[12:41] <PaulChater> iceroot:  Just said seg fault.
[12:41] <eL_pSycHo> Deathvalley122: so they dont automount? or they do? for me they dont.. F'ing Karmic
[12:41] <S4nD3r> Theres no software center
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> PaulChater: i love those errors. May as well say   "something broke"
[12:42] <eVias> i fixed my sound problem
[12:42] <eVias> thanks to ubuntu forum
[12:42] <bazhang> eL_pSycHo, watch the language