[00:00] <Ubuntu_Fail> Is there a forum that can help with graphics/nvidia issues?
[00:00] <wad> Thanks. But I think the data is just lost. I've reformatted the partition, installed a new OS on it, and copied over a bunch of files. :(
[00:01] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: I do have just a bit of skill in that respect . 1st is to clean up and then see what is intalled . what now returns ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ' ?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> installed*
[00:02] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: I have installed a variety of drivers - 362, 361, 267
[00:02] <Ubuntu_Fail> *367
[00:03] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: Its an ALienware 13 R2 with a GeForce GTX 965M
[00:03] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: I actually get a kernel oops if I boot with nvidia 367 - I have a bunch of logs saved if you want
[00:04] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: K. but I want to know that an install from Nvidia is not a factor in this . show me - sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" - . Then we see what we have to work with .
[00:06] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: See above - I just get /run/user/1000/gvfs permission denied.  I have never installed the nvidia raw drivers - only regular ubuntu and graphics-ppa (both fail)
[00:10] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: Ouch .. did not sudo ? any way as you know you have not made an OEM install attempt . next is to see that the system ses the hardware . Pastebin ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ' .
[00:12] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sky Lake Integrated Graphics (rev 07) 	DeviceName:  Onboard IGD 	Subsystem: Dell Skylake Integrated Graphics -- 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206M [GeForce GTX 965M] (rev ff) 	Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau, nvidia_361
[00:13] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: K Hybrid graphics .. we will need a means to control the different graphics sets . .. That be nvidia-prime by recomendation .
[00:15] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: yes - I'm using the intel graphics right now off the standard nvidia package (looks like 361)
[00:16] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: ^^ Nvidia does recommend the 367 vrsion driver for that card : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/105343/en-us . Only available in release 16.04 .
[00:16] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: i get a kernel oops/panic when I boot with 367
[00:16] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: I have a syslog file of that - do you want me to post it somewhere?
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: K .. lets see where you are getting the driver . Our trusted PPA : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa. And also sky Lake may still require - i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 - as a boot option .
[00:20] <psyguy2> sup guys, anyone care to help me make a grub iso in 16.04?
[00:21] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: d oyou want me to reinstall 367 from graphics-ppa? Do I need to modify grub somewhere for that boot option?
[00:22] <psyguy2> the website says there should be a i386-pc dir but i have x86_64-efi instead
[00:23] <EriC^^> psyguy2: grub iso?
[00:23] <psyguy2> this is what im trying to do (on step 2): http://lifehacker.com/how-to-dual-boot-and-virtualize-the-same-partition-on-y-493223329
[00:25] <EriC^^> well that's interesting
[00:26] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: Seems there is support in 16.04 for sky lake with the "i965-va-driver". Bear in mind if Intell is not happy, because Nvidia passes through it - then Nvidia is not happy . see: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2328993 . And we work at cleaning things up and see what we can do to install the proper drivers . Now that is what I think.
[00:28] <EriC^^> psyguy2: are you using uefi?
[00:28] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: "i965-va-driver is already the newest version (1.7.0-1)."
[00:28] <psyguy2> its a brand new laptop so i assume i have uefi... but the bios looks very old school
[00:29] <psyguy2> so i am not sure really
[00:29] <EriC^^> psyguy2: so the install is going to be in uefi mode
[00:29] <EriC^^> are you in linux now?
[00:30] <psyguy2> yea
[00:30] <EriC^^> type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[00:30] <EriC^^> so you're going to need to make the vm a uefi vm for linux to boot
[00:30] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: Now that is a great thing // so we mess with the Nvidia driver install . what PPA for the Nvidia driver are you using ?
[00:30] <EriC^^> honestly it's a headache imho
[00:31] <psyguy2> ok, well ive got nothing to lose
[00:32] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: I think I'm currently back on the mainstream - I've tried a multitude of graphics-ppa drivers, but I think currently I was troubleshootign with regular ones...
[00:32] <psyguy2> ls /sys/firmware/efi
[00:32] <psyguy2> config_table  efivars  esrt  fw_platform_size  fw_vendor  runtime  runtime-map  systab  vars
[00:33] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: This one : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ?
[00:33] <EriC^^> yeah it's uefi mode psyguy2
[00:34] <psyguy2> ok, so how do i make this grub iso in uefi mode?
[00:34] <EriC^^> psyguy2: is your vm in uefi mode
[00:34] <EriC^^> psyguy2: i dont know if you even can
[00:34] <psyguy2> i dont really have a vm yet
[00:34] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: 367?
[00:34] <EriC^^> try replacing x86_64
[00:35] <EriC^^> i doubt it'll work though
[00:35] <psyguy2> replacing where?
[00:35] <EriC^^> in /usr/lib/...
[00:36] <psyguy2> hmm i can possibly ommit the grub iso and boot straight off the main grub
[00:36] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: Yeah directly we will .. 1st is to insure we are clean prior to the install . What returns ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[00:36] <EriC^^> psyguy2: well you'd need to point the vm's uefi to the grub efi file to boot it
[00:36] <EriC^^> using efibootmgr
[00:37] <psyguy2> ok, i dont understand much of this stuff, but i did a similar thing on my desktop pc with 14.04
[00:38] <EriC^^> also the efi partition would be mounted in the vm, it possibly might be mounted in windows if it's doing an update or something and could get corrupted, but i guess the vm would always shut off before windows ever mounts it i guess
[00:38] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: ii  bbswitch-dkms                               0.8-3ubuntu1                                                amd64        Interface for toggling the power on NVIDIA Optimus video cards ii  libcuda1-361                                361.42-0ubuntu2
[00:39] <psyguy2> hmm maybe this is a project for another day
[00:40] <YankDownUnder> psyguy2: The world is not ending on Wednesday at 10:14am, therefore, there is time... :)
[00:40] <crafty1__> psyguy2: Whats the issue here Ubuntu wont boot?
[00:40] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: nvidia 361, opencl-cid-361, prime, settings
[00:40] <psyguy2> im trying to make a VM in windows to boot off an ubuntu partition on the same hdd
[00:40] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: as well as bbswitch-dkms, libcuda1-361
[00:41] <EriC^^> psyguy2: if you dont mind the efi partition thing which is pretty unlikely, then just create a uefi vm and use a linux live iso in it to change the efibootmgr to point to /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
[00:41] <EriC^^> you'd need this command sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p X -d /dev/sdY
[00:41] <EriC^^> where X is efi partition and Y is the disk
[00:42] <EriC^^> like -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[00:42] <stephenmac7> Hey, I'm having issues with my battery life. I'm on a window computer and on windows it can last about 6 hours but on linux, it's about 50 min
[00:43] <psyguy2> ok cool, ill give that a bash
[00:43] <psyguy2> thanks
[00:43] <stephenmac7> Powertop reports about 1100 wakups/second when I'm not using the touchpad and 1600 when I am.
[00:44] <EriC^^> psyguy2: no problem
[00:44] <psyguy2> btw any idea what performance will be like running it in a VM?
[00:44] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: K .. so long as BumbleBee is not in this equation . what PPA are you using now for the 367 version install ?
[00:45] <stephenmac7> My reported discharge rate is 40 W
[00:46] <EriC^^> psyguy2: slower i guess, it's bareable if you're not doing anything that needs gpu or lots of cpu
[00:46] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: Right now the regular one - not graphics ppa (I've tried both)
[00:46] <psyguy2> hmm ok
[00:47] <gamo> Updated to 16.04.1, NO MOUSE. What can I do?
[00:47] <psyguy2> cheers
[00:48] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: What I propose, is purge what is now for Nvidia, install the 367 driver from out PPA .. and then look at X's log file .
[00:48] <Bashing-om> out/our*
[00:54] <guest1_> I need some assitance accessing my server outside of my LAN
[00:55] <guest1_> I just installed the latest Ubuntu Server OS 16. I can SSH into it fine if Im on the network its running on, whats the best option for accessing out of network range?
[00:55] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: I'm on a second computer so I can reboot the other one
[00:56] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: K .. we will work through this .. see what we can come up with .
[01:00] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: purged nvidia, installed graphics ppa, and now installing nvidia-367...
[01:00] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: (rebooted after purge)
[01:01] <esd_droid>  https://www.dropbox.com/s/ryori8tymdrb32n/20160723_064459.jpg?dl=0   i have this
[01:01] <esd_droid> how can i properly manage my used memory? im using ubuntu 15.1
[01:02] <esd_droid> firefox eats mem
[01:02] <esd_droid> and i have 2g ram odroid ux4
[01:02] <esd_droid> something lite version?
[01:03] <esd_droid> or a higher version kernel?
[01:06] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: ok, I'm logged back in - and I get the usual issue: my desktop icons are way too big (usually logging out and back in fixes that), and videos/3d graphics are super choppy
[01:08] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' . Let's see what tale is told .
[01:09] <Marco^> can somebody help me get a broadcom bluetooth adapter to work? the adapter is detected but i can't activate bluetooth in the settings (it says bluetooth is deactivated); more info https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2331488
[01:16] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: Ya know, that "chip" is built-in on some laptops...a question I would have is have you powered off the machine and booted into Ubuntu with the device connected...?
[01:16] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x85 in position 9870: invalid start byte
[01:16] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: looks like pastebinit has a bug... do you want me to post it somewhere else?
[01:17] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20680703/
[01:17] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, yes i tried that, didn't help
[01:18] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: Hummm suspicious .. but we can try ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[01:18] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: Because it's actually a "certified" device...
[01:19] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: In a terminal, have you tried "sudo modprobe bluetooth" ?
[01:20] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, just tried it, the system settings still say bluetooth is deactivated
[01:21] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: How about: sudo modprobe bluetooth && sudo service bluetoothd restart
[01:22] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, no change
[01:22] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: Soi far in the file not good " 4.727] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to get display device for DPI computation.n " what display is this ? external ? and if external, what type of cable is this ?
[01:23] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: How about trying: sudo modprobe btusb && sudo service bluetoothd restart
[01:24] <testerlird483> ok
[01:25] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, still no change
[01:25] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: Another to try: sudo modprobe btbcm && sudo service bluetoothd restart
[01:26] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/240l
[01:27] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: It's an external display (over USB-C) but I disconnect and use laptop screen t osimplify if you want
[01:28] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, no change but running the second command alone returns "Failed to restart bluetoothd.service: Unit bluetoothd.service not found."
[01:30] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: Sorry -> "sudo systemctl start bluetoothd
[01:30] <jerichowasahoax> How do I tell timedatectl to sync with the NTP server right this very instant?
[01:31] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, similar error http://paste.ubuntu.com/20682228/
[01:32] <jerichowasahoax> I'm on a server installation of Ubuntu by the way, so no X11 panels to use
[01:32] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: Er...what about just using "bluetooth" as the service name?
[01:32] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: Like: sudo systemctl start bluetooth
[01:33] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, no error but also no change
[01:34] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: I do not understand all I see in the system attempting to come up with a valod disp;y . trys EDID vendor "SHP", prod id 5153 , and then EDID vendor "SPT", prod id 4961 ; I assume the external . and that the ;aptop screen is DFP-0: ?? .. just do not know what is going on here " DFP-0: disconnected " as the system probes over and over and over for a display - looks like .
[01:35] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: Right oh...I'm out of ideas...sorry, bro...however, it's worth continuiing the search for an answer...as stated, that chipset is part of the certified hardware for Ubuntu...and I'm fairly certain you're not the only person on the planet with this issue, hmm...
[01:35] <wyseguy> i just switched to android, is there a way i can text message on linux with the android phone like i use to with imessage on the iphone?
[01:35] <crafty1__> jerichowasahoax: sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov
[01:36] <Marco^> YankDownUnder, still, thank you for your help :)
[01:36] <jerichowasahoax> crafty1: I keep reading that ntpdate is old and timedatectl replaces it. Am I misunderstanding something?
[01:36] <YankDownUnder> Marco^: You're more than welcome, bro...hope your journey is well.
[01:36] <crafty1__> jerichowasahoax: If Im not mistaken that command is for Red Hat
[01:36] <crafty1__> I could be wrong
[01:36] <Ubuntu_Fail> Bashing-om: I use 'Talos Principle' (a game) to test frame rate: I get 10 fps at low res. When I first installed ubuntu and tried old nvidia drivers (I would isntall 361, then 352 on top of them) I was gettign 60fps at UHD resolution - but now that technique (and nvidia 367) are giving me 10 fps...
[01:37] <jerichowasahoax> crafty1__: it keeps showing up on Ubuntu-labelled documentation. Maybe it's a general systemd command
[01:37] <crafty1__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[01:37] <crafty1__> Literally everything you need in there
[01:37] <jerichowasahoax> crafty1__: that article has a "needs updating" banner on it too
[01:38] <jerichowasahoax> crafty1__: Nobody's come and actually objected to ntpdate yet, so I'm assuming it's still safe for one-off syncs, I'm just discussing generalities here
[01:38] <crafty1__> OK
[01:38] <crafty1__> If have no idea if the command is deprecated
[01:39] <Ubuntu_fail2> lk
[01:40]  * YankDownUnder thinks that *all* time is deprecated...
[01:40] <jerichowasahoax> crafty1__: I'll keep an ear out for it
[01:41] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_Fail: The driver looks to have built. However, will not hurt to look at a couple other files and see if there are hints to any problems; ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' .
[01:42] <crafty1__> Whats interesting to me is that the article does not list if anyone plans to update it
[01:44] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: what was that terminal 9999 command?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: <command> | nc termbin.com 9999 .
[01:48] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/drib
[01:48] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Reading .
[01:51] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: I noticed I can get some unstable behavior when I log out and back in - it puts me on a high-res login screen, and seconds later it reboots X under low res (so I get a seg fault, but only on Xorg.0.log.old); see   http://termbin.com/fo7d
[01:53] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: It lets me log in, but under this low-res mode (the icons are big, but nvidia-config and the settings-> displays still think it is at the native 3200x1800 resolution
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: All fat dumb and happy per that output " No need to modify xorg.conf. Path: /etc/X11/xorg.conf " Let's take a look at it amyway . ' cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . Just in case ! // reading the new one .
[01:56] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/w0kl  (note that there is an xorg.conf.MMDDYYYY for basically every day... don't know if that's a symptom)
[02:01] <effectnet> how do i change my password for an email account in thunderbird?
[02:02] <YankDownUnder> effectnet: Is it a local email account, or something like Gmail/Hotmail/etc etc etc?
[02:02] <effectnet> gmail
[02:03] <effectnet> i went into edit->preferences->security->passwords and deleted it.  i thought it would prompt me, but it won't.
[02:04] <YankDownUnder> effectnet: Firstly, change it on Gmail's web interface...then you do: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Setting_and_changing_email_passwords
[02:04] <effectnet> the password has been changed in gmail, yes.  just trying to change it in thunderbird now.
[02:04] <effectnet> ok i will look thanks.
[02:05] <YankDownUnder> effectnet: Coolbeans
[02:06] <effectnet> ok did it.  hey thanks.  it was asking me for google permissions in another chromium window that i did not see. heh.
[02:06] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Yuk .. this may be well beyond my skill level " 2591.603] (EE) 5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so " amd NO you should not have that many old config files . 1 for Nvidia, and 1 for Intel !
[02:07] <effectnet> does thunderbird save any drafts that did NOT get saved to the email account?
[02:07] <effectnet> like seperate...
[02:07] <effectnet> meh doesn't matter.
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Ouch ! reading and considering what Arch has to say : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Skylake_support . Make some edits to the config file ???
[02:19] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: what
[02:19] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: is weird is that when I first built the system it was working well - I tried a whole bunch of things and what did it was
[02:20] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: apt-get install (graphics ppa): nvidia-364; then reboot and without removing the old one install nvidia-352 nvidia-settings
[02:22] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: that used to work excellent, but it no longer works, for some reason. do you know if it's possible to go back and load the old versions? (this was in may 2016)
[02:24] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: I got to go tend to my dogs .. be back soonest .
[02:29] <sruli> i think i might have forgotten my luks pass, haven’t rebooted the machine in 2.5 years (anyone on windows can say same?) to add a new key to luks is it just as simple as "cryptsetup luksAddKey --key-slot 1 /dev/sdXY" ?
[02:35] <nunuser> fjvnfjnejnejneongoenernejne
[02:35] <nunuser> kjenjerjnree
[02:35] <Guest55> .
[02:36] <nunuser> regegg
[02:42] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: I pulled up the old apt-get logs for what used to work and what doesn't work. Not sure if that is helpful, but maybe it's a clue:   http://termbin.com/pa6t
[02:45] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: I an back ,, let me have a bit to catch uo .
[02:47] <Ryan500> can clam antivirus be setup to scan active files like traditional antivirus engines do?
[02:47] <Ryan500> in ubuntu
[02:47] <sruli> i think i might have forgotten my luks pass, haven’t rebooted the machine in 2.5 years (anyone on windows can say same?) to add a new key to luks is it just as simple as "cryptsetup luksAddKey --key-slot 1 /dev/sdXY" ?
[02:47] <Ryan500> i see there is a #clamav room maybe i will ask there lol
[02:54] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Ouch Where it went south ? : Start-Date: 2016-07-11  21:29:19 >> all those libs additionally installed, and this " libc6-i386:amd64 " scares the waddeling pee out of me .
[02:55] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: yes, although  I was also doing the regular system updates in between - but those old nvdia-installs worked, and the new ones dont.
[02:59] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: No idea .. we can remove all the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf files .. and generate a new one .. see if that makes a difference, Might be a good idea to see what is installed at this time ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' See that the support packages are installed and that there is no conflict .
[03:01] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/mqpw
[03:06] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Looks kosher to me .. I see no fault . Generate a new config file and see how nvidia-prime performs ?
[03:08] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: ok....how?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf* ; sudo nvidia-xconfig ' to generate a new config file . Reboot to see the effect  and we see if this new one differs.
[03:17] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: no better - but I do get a pop up "ubuntu experienced an internal error" apport thing
[03:18] <sruli> i think i might have forgotten my luks pass, to add a new key to luks is it just as simple as "cryptsetup luksAddKey --key-slot 1 /dev/sdXY" ?
[03:18] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: xorg crashed with SIGABRT
[03:19] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Yuk .. what does the display log relate ' cat .xsession-errors ' ?
[03:22] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/745e
[03:23] <rypervenche> sruli: No. You have to know the old password in order to be able to do anything to it.
[03:24] <Bashing-om> !info libc
[03:28] <sponix> !info glibc
[03:28] <sponix> Fail :(
[03:28] <sruli> rypervenche: how do i test if i know the old password (obviously without trying to reboot!)
[03:29] <rypervenche> sruli: Is this your / device?
[03:29] <sruli> no
[03:29] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: !info libc : event not found
[03:29] <rypervenche> sruli: So just try to open in or open it as you have been and keep trying passwords.
[03:30] <sruli> rypervenche: it is open now
[03:30] <rypervenche> sruli: If it is open, then you know your password.
[03:31] <sruli> rypervenche: its been open for past 2.5 years!
[03:31] <rypervenche> sruli: Oh....then yes, you can just add a new key or replace the old one. Sorry.
[03:31] <sruli> rypervenche: so to add new one is just simple case of "cryptsetup luksAddKey --key-slot 1 /dev/sdXY" ?
[03:32] <rypervenche> sruli: Should be something like that. Give it a shot.
[03:32] <sruli> rypervenche: do i need to copy the key from luksDump or something?
[03:33] <sruli> rypervenche: other question is what would be the command to change passphrase? i guess that should ask for current one, and i will know if i have the correct one or not...
[03:33] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Over my skill set . I to am in a learning mode .
[03:34] <rypervenche> sruli: luksChangeKey to change it.
[03:35] <rypervenche> sruli: Just: cryptsetup luksChangeKey /dev/sdXY
[03:36] <sruli> rypervenche: i tried that all i got was "Enter passphrase to be changed:" i put in the old passphrase and it returned to user@user:~$
[03:36] <sruli>  rypervenche: does that mean it changed it to that or it failed?
[03:37] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: is it posdible to us apt-get to spcifically isntall the old version (that worked!)?
[03:38] <rypervenche> sruli: Oh, reading through the man page, you do have to know the old pass phrase.
[03:38] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: You mean install the 352 version driver ? Sure !
[03:38] <rypervenche> sruli: I would recommend moving the data off of it then, then creating a new LUKS container on it and them moving it back, if you can.
[03:39] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: but the 352 with the version from May, not the current 352 (see that earlier apt-get install log)
[03:39] <sruli> rypervenche: so if all i got was "Enter passphrase to be changed:" i put in the old passphrase and it returned to user@user:~$... what would that mean?
[03:40] <sruli> does that mean old passphrase failed?
[03:40] <rypervenche> sruli: Let me try on mine.
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Well .. that may not be possible ... what is in the repository is what we have to work with .,
[03:41] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: the other thing I had dug up was whether the DKMS/loading kernel headers is broken - I saw some stuff that said virtualbox can mess up 'DKMS' (I didn't quite get it, but maybe it can give you a clue?)
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: I do know a bit about DKMS. but nothing about VM operations .
[03:43] <Lexiqq> \list
[03:45] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: ' dkms status ' might set your mind at ease in this respect .
[03:45] <sruli> rypervenche: any luck?
[03:46] <Guest59337> What's the usual protocol for when a replacing the Nvidia drivers with Intel iGPU drivers? My gpu died and need to fallback.
[03:46] <cfhowlett> Guest59337, purge the nvidia and reinstall the intel drivers should do it
[03:46] <Guest59337> I've removed the card, purged Nvidia drivers and used the intel installer. But the graphics seem really slow for me. I think I may have forgot something.
[03:46] <cfhowlett> followed by a reboot perhaps
[03:46] <rypervenche> sruli: It should say: "Enter any existing passphrase:" and if it fails, "No key available with this passphrase."
[03:46] <Guest59337> I'll give it another go. I'll uninstall the intel drivers then.
[03:47] <rypervenche> sruli: If it works, it should ask you to type in the new passphrase after you type in the first.
[03:47] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: doesn't say anything about nvidia - should it?
[03:47] <sruli> rypervenche: all it asked me was "Enter passphrase to be changed:"
[03:47] <krist64> hello my friends
[03:48] <sruli> rypervenche: might that have been refering to the slot number?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> sruli, "passphrase to be changed" means the existing passphrase
[03:48] <verdammte> Sprichst du Deutsch?
[03:48] <krist64> good morning
[03:48] <verdammte> Ich werde auf die Juden furzen
[03:48] <cfhowlett> !de | verdammte
[03:49] <verdammte> bitte
[03:49] <sruli> cfhowlett: i put in what i think is the existing passphrase and it just retuned to the command line... what does that mean?
[03:49] <rypervenche> sruli: Yeah, you can try to guess your existing passphrase, but without it you can't add or change keys.
[03:49] <rypervenche> sruli: What OS and version is it?
[03:49] <verdammte> Ich werde auf die Juden furzen
[03:49] <sruli> rypervenche: ubuntu 14.04.1 server
[03:49] <verdammte> I speak english too
[03:49] <cfhowlett> sruli, I don't use the encrypt enough to guess but I suspect you entered the wrong phrase.  see if there's a verbose option to your command
[03:49] <rypervenche> sruli: /sbin/cryptsetup --version
[03:50] <cfhowlett> verdammte, please do so in this channel
[03:50] <sruli> cryptsetup 1.6.1
[03:50] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/f0mz
[03:50] <verdammte> cfhowlett: Are you discriminating me for being foreigner?
[03:50] <verdammte> or for being a nazi?
[03:50] <cfhowlett> verdammte, 1. don't be daft
[03:50] <verdammte> or for saying i would fart on the jew?
[03:50] <rypervenche> sruli: Yeah, it would have asked you for the passphrase you want to input. You will know if you get it right.
[03:51] <verdammte> I is not daft
[03:51] <cfhowlett> verdammte, enough.  follow the guidelines and take your racist bs elsewhere
[03:51] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: look'n .
[03:51] <sruli> rypervenche: so if it did not return anything after entering the passphrase that would mean i entered the wrong passphrase, right?
[03:52] <krist64> good morning
[03:53] <A124> Why noone updates par2cmdline for 14.04? it's ages old.
[03:53] <cfhowlett> krist64, you've greeted the channel 3 times.  suggest you move on to actually asking your support question
[03:53] <Bashing-om> !info virtualbox-guest
[03:53] <A124> I wonder how that process even works. But ... fking sht have to compile stuff myself.
[03:53] <cfhowlett> A124, false.  14.04 is now at 14.04.4 - plenty of updates.
[03:54] <A124> How does one get the ubuntu version?
[03:54] <rypervenche> sruli: It should tell you it failed, but maybe that version of it doesn't. I can check on a 14.04 instance if you like. But I would say it is not right.
[03:54] <A124> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS"
[03:54] <A124> cfhowlett well that plenty still means there are packages years and years old.
[03:54] <Bashing-om> !info virtualbox
[03:55] <cfhowlett> A124, so upgrade to 16.04
[03:55] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om" event not found
[03:55] <cfhowlett> !latest | A124
[03:55] <alexw> cat /etc/issues
[03:55] <A124> cfhowlett  unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit
[03:56] <rypervenche> sruli: Just checked it. It gives output regardless if you get it right or not.
[03:56] <cfhowlett> A124, sounds like you have a need to chat.  please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:56] <A124> cfhowlett Not much. How can one request package update?
[03:56] <rypervenche> sruli: "Enter passphrase to be changed:" then "Enter new passphrase:" if correct. Otherwise it says "No key available with this passphrase."
[03:57] <sruli> rypervenche: i will try again
[03:57] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: ?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Take with a grain of salt .. but is not " virtualbox, 5.0.18, " incompatible with xenial install ??
[03:59] <A124> Whatever
[03:59] <Ubuntu_fail2> Bashing-om: no clue - is it possible to disable it (blacklist?) without unistalling? I don't want ot redo everything for virtualbox (use it for work)
[04:00] <sruli> rypervenche: now i get "No key available with this pass-phrase." can i add a key using luksAddKey --slot 1 ?
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Ubuntu_fail2: Got me .. I have yet to have any experience with VMs .. can you not update the virtualbox install to what is current ???
[04:01] <rypervenche> sruli: No. You still need to know one of the keys of the LUKS container. Keep guessing, or starting moving the data off of it.
[04:01] <krist64> hello
[04:02] <sruli> rypervenche: i have abackup of all the data, it will waste a week trying to setup the server again ... i want to avoid that
[04:02] <cfhowlett> krist64, ask your ubuntu question
[04:03] <rypervenche> sruli: Then keep guessing. And you don't have to set up the server again, just resync the data over after you recreate a new LUKS encrypted container.
[04:04] <krist64> cfhowlett: LAMP 16.04 it secure online?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> krist64, unclear what you're asking but #ubuntu-server would know more than I do
[04:05] <sruli> rypervenche: what do u think of this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/161915/change-password-on-a-luks-filesystem-without-knowing-the-password ?
[04:05] <krist64> cfhowlett: ok, thanks
[04:07] <rypervenche> sruli: Interesting. Let me try it on my VM.
[04:07] <sruli> thanks
[04:09] <weng> IRC is not active
[04:09] <bazhang> weng this is ubuntu support, try a chat channel
[04:09] <cfhowlett> weng, no magicians here to read your mind.  ask your ubuntu questions for answers.
[04:13] <rypervenche> sruli: Very cool. That worked.
[04:14] <sruli> rypervenche: you entered the command exactly like the answer there?
[04:15] <rypervenche> sruli: Yes, but I changed the two variables to what I have.
[04:15] <sruli> rypervenche: it adds it to slot 1?
[04:15] <rypervenche> sruli: Yep. (not slot 0, than you are currently using_
[04:16] <sruli> rypervenche: sudo or root?
[04:17] <sruli> rypervenche: fingers crossed, will try now
[04:17] <rypervenche> sruli: Yes. It has to be done as root or with sudo.
[04:18] <rypervenche> sruli: Let me know if you need help with the variables.
[04:19] <sruli> rypervenche: did not work with sudo, worked with root
[04:19] <rypervenche> Nice
[04:19] <sruli>  rypervenche: i guess to use with sudo need some more 'sudo's' in the command, couldnt figure out where so went with su
[04:20] <rypervenche> sruli: Well you taught me something new today :) And yeah, I personally don't use for running root commands.
[04:20] <rypervenche> sudo*
[04:21] <sruli> rypervenche: i dont remember the last time i used su on ubuntu.. on centos all the time ...
[04:21] <sruli> rypervenche: how do i test if this new passphrase works?
[04:21] <rypervenche> sruli: Try to change the key slot 0
[04:22] <sruli> rypervenche: with new passphrase of slot 1? what command should i use?
[04:27] <rypervenche> sruli: cryptsetup luksChangeKey /dev/sdXY --key-slot 0
[04:27] <rypervenche> sruli: Yep
[04:28] <sruli> rypervenche: same as original result.. i enter old passphrase and it returns to command line
[04:29] <rypervenche> sruli: old passphrase or the one you just set?
[04:29] <sruli> the one i just set
[04:30] <sruli> rypervenche: it doesnt ask for new passphrase
[04:31] <rypervenche> sruli: Maybe try adding a new one to slot 2 then?
[04:31] <sruli> rypervenche: smar ;-)
[04:32] <sruli> rypervenche: \\ smart  ;-)
[04:34] <rypervenche> sruli: After doing what that page said, I tested both keys and they both worked for me.
[04:35] <sruli> rypervenche: that worked, many thanks for your help
[04:36] <sruli> rypervenche: that link will go into my bookmarks!
[04:36] <cfhowlett> rypervenche, nicely done!
[04:37] <rypervenche> sruli: Congrats. I'll keep that little piece of info in my head^^
[04:39] <sruli> rypervenche: it also reinforces, decrypted = very little security... if i want to take ur latptop all i need is to distract you 20 seconds and add a key (given i will need to know the user pass for sudo)
[04:40] <sruli> moving on to my next issue of my disastrous weekend ...
[04:40] <sruli> i am using phpvirtualbox and trying to start a VM from webadmin its gets stuck at "20% starting virtual machine" (tried with 4 VM's) i cant stop/halt it or anything, VBoxManage doesnt seem to see any registered VM's (i have 3 running which i can connect to) what can i do?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> !webadmin | sruli
[04:42] <OerHeks> sruli, you mean webmin .. well, webmin is not recommended at all, warned against. so there is your answer
[04:42] <OerHeks> but you know that already sruli
[04:43] <cfhowlett> indeed
[04:44] <sruli> OerHeks: its a machine i setup years ago, does not have any access to the internet (i can only access it with vpn or ssh) so not very worried security wise but need to get it working nonetheless,
[04:44] <rypervenche> sruli: That... is a good point...I hadn't thought about that.
[04:45] <sruli> why would VBoxManage list vms not return anything with 12 machines i can see in webmin
[04:45] <sruli> rypervenche: you are referring to the "decrypted=" point?
[04:47] <spider_> hello people
[04:51] <rypervenche> sruli: Yes
[04:53] <sruli> rypervenche: i knew for a long time this was possible, just never need to use it.. on my laptop i set if idle for 120seconds it dismounts luks, this might be a big inconvenience to most but if my customer data gets stolen would be worse than an inconvenience for me
[04:56] <rypervenche> sruli: Oooh, how do you have that set?
[04:57] <sruli> rypervenche: custom script, checks idle time if it reaches 120 seconds it executes the dismount, i used to have it set to poweroff, but that was too much, so i moved all data to another luks container... 1 min will find link i used for idle command
[04:58] <rypervenche> sruli: Ahh ok. I was about to say. I'd never seen an option for that before.
[04:58] <sruli> rypervenche: http://superuser.com/questions/638357/execute-a-command-if-linux-is-idle-for-5-minutes
[04:59] <sruli> can anyone help with VBoxManage problem?
[05:05] <a7i3n> What is ubottu?
[05:10] <Tex_Nick> !ubottu | a7i3n
[06:03] <theblindghoulie3> I am having issues using SSH into my server when Im outside the range of the LAN
[06:04] <sidgupta234>  guys I think my CMOS battery is not working properly, issue with the time sync, should I replace it, or can continue working the way it is going, time syncs with internet so gets corrected automatically.
[06:04] <Backwards> Sidgupta234 have you tested the battery?
[06:05] <Backwards> Sid does your computer keep time?
[06:05] <Backwards> Do you have to reset the time when you re-boot?
[06:06] <sidgupta234> I have a dual boot, on Windows the time loses sync, on ubuntu time is shown fine.
[06:06] <Backwards> If you re-boot and you have to re-set the time then the battery is bad.
[06:06] <sidgupta234> in the case of reboot the battery remembers the time.
[06:06] <Backwards> Change the Lithium Battery.
[06:07] <Backwards> Then in BIOS set the settings again.
[06:07] <sidgupta234> Am unable to get in the BIOS menu.
[06:08] <Backwards> Even if the battery is bad it will keep a sloppy voltage to talk with the BIOS.
[06:08] <sidgupta234> Yes, thats what I read.
[06:09] <sidgupta234> Backwards: If am unable to get to the BIOS menu, has it anything to do with the battery?
[06:09] <CoJaBo> sidgupta234: what version of Windows?
[06:09] <Backwards> Change the battery and re-set the BIOS.
[06:09] <sidgupta234> CoJaBo: win7/ubuntu 16.04
[06:09] <CoJaBo> It's not the battery, it's a Win XP known bug. which apperently they never fixed lol
[06:09] <Backwards> When the computer boots up hit Ctrl whatever the screen tells you to do,.
[06:10] <CoJaBo> Backwards: The battery is only used to keep time when turned off
[06:10] <CoJaBo> If it's drifting while on, it's the Windows bug
[06:10] <sidgupta234> Backwords: I tried everything, it says please wait.. and then boom the choose OS screen pops up.
[06:10] <Backwards> The battery sets the CPU clock speed and more.
[06:11] <CoJaBo> There's a BIOS tweak to sync the time more frequently; I ended up setting mine to do it once an hour, since the drift was quite fast..
[06:11] <sidgupta234> Backwards: can one do without changing the battery?
[06:11] <Backwards> CoJaBo batteries do drift in voltage and yes time difference.
[06:12] <CoJaBo> Backwards: ..?
[06:12] <sidgupta234> is the cmos necessary?
[06:12] <CoJaBo> sidgupta234: Does it happen while turned on? If so, you can be 100% certain it's not the battery.
[06:13] <sidgupta234> CojaBo: it only happens overnight when I turn my laptop off.
[06:13] <Backwards> OK this is the point. If the computer boots up and the time is always on default then the battery is dead.
[06:13] <chull_> my husband's ubuntu 16.04 is stuck in an upgrade for over a day
[06:13] <chull_> i hope somebody can help?
[06:13] <CoJaBo> sidgupta234: heh, and those might not be replacable.. I'd just set it to sync on startup/resume then
[06:13] <sidgupta234> Backwards: it is not always on default, it changes just not enough. If I swtich it off at 10 pm and open it at 10 am, it says 5 am
[06:14] <Backwards> Stop crying and start buying. A battery is no more than what a few dollars?
[06:14] <CoJaBo> Backwards: I've actually never seen a laptop with replacable CMOS batt tho :/
[06:15] <Backwards> All laptops  have batteries.
[06:15] <CoJaBo> Yeh, but it's not easily accessible, and some of them are even soldered on
[06:15] <sidgupta234> Backwards: the only problem is my BIOS setup screen doesnt show, if I change the battery, I feel I'll be screwed.
[06:15] <Backwards> To take those babies apart and fix them is murder.  It is not worth the time of day.
[06:18] <chalcedony> so what do i do with ubuntu?
[06:18] <CoJaBo> what do you mean, stuck?
[06:19] <chalcedony> its been sitting there for almost two days without finishing
[06:19] <CoJaBo> Can you get to terminal?
[06:19] <Backwards> The only thing I do with a laptop is save DATA from the hard drive. That is all. It pays more money.
[06:19] <chalcedony>  Distribution Upgrade
 Running Partial Upgrade
 Preparing to Upgrade
[06:19] <chalcedony> etc
[06:20] <chalcedony> CoJaBo, yes
[06:20] <CoJaBo> My usual fix for a failed upgrade is to backup /home and reinstall; usually faster than trying to troubleshoot lol
[06:21] <CoJaBo> You can also save the list of manually-installed packages, so you can reinstall them all easily
[06:21] <ow3nk> Hey anyone here familiar with how clicklock works in Windows? I'm working making that for Linux and need some coding help
[06:21] <CoJaBo> clicklock?
[06:22] <ow3nk> ya
[06:22] <ow3nk> click and drag
[06:22] <chalcedony> CoJaBo, eew. pointers on how?
[06:23] <ow3nk> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwibhuWVu4vOAhUE2mMKHfRvDtUQtwIIMjAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2-zHFbSQNTA&usg=AFQjCNHN9XIgCq6MufXuiN9JjXBO8VgvBA&sig2=jJFfWJeLrPdOel-vg7wdqQ
[06:24] <Backwards> CoJaBo check this site out: https://www.scamguard.com/list-of-scams/?gclid=CNyyw5G7i84CFdVZhgodySkGLg
[06:24] <CoJaBo> ?
[06:25] <CoJaBo> Backwards: ..?
[06:25] <Backwards> Do you homework.
[06:26] <CoJaBo> Backwards: ..on?
[06:27] <CoJaBo> Backwards: Sketchy site seems sketchy :P
[06:28] <Backwards> I
[06:28] <Backwards> I am waiting for my wine glass to reffill.
[06:30] <Backwards> CoJaBo nice to meet you.
[06:30] <CoJaBo> Backwards: The crow caws at midnight.
[06:30] <Backwards> I saw the Crow cawing.
[06:31] <cfhowlett> !ot
[06:31] <rypervenche> theblindghoulie3: Did you get your problem fixed?
[06:32] <Backwards> Registering your nick is a bunch of twittle.
[06:33] <Backwards> Another glass of Red Wine will be nice.
[06:34] <Seveas> it's too early for red wine. Orange juice and a sandwich for me :)
[06:35] <Backwards> I don't know what is early for you Seveas but a nice hearty glass of Red Wine is for the occasion. :)
[06:35] <Backwards> Seveas nice to meet you.
[06:35] <Seveas> Backwards: 08:35. Lazy sunday morning breakfast time
[06:35] <sambagirl> don't you ever sleep Seveas?
[06:36] <Seveas> sambagirl: I have an 11 month old baby.   And then go to school :P
[06:38] <Seveas> https://www.amazon.com/Clocky-Alarm-Clock-Wheels-Black/dp/B004MSMUGI/ref=pd_sim_201_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41-HQ22tp9L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=EJKR5XMJWZFNG00ZK86K
[06:39] <Backwards> I don't need an alarm clock. I rely on my circadian rythm.
[06:40] <Seveas> I have more of a cicadian rhythm :)
[06:41] <Backwards> That seems to be seen and proved.
[06:42] <Backwards> Oh! wow!  Another glass of wine? Who provided that?
[06:42] <Seveas> Someone with more wine than common sense :)
[06:45] <Backwards> It was the co-conspiritor of IRC.
[06:46] <Backwards> Seveas you remind me of my old Greek Friend.
[06:47] <Backwards> He died a few months ago but he was a good friend of mine.
[06:48] <Backwards> He was not an IRC tech but  he was very intelligent.
[06:48] <Seveas> Well, my real name is Dennis. Which has its root in the name of the greek god Διόνυσος, the god of booze and parties :)
[06:49] <Backwards> Seveas I knew you were Greek. Just the way you talk.
[06:49] <Seveas> I'm not greek
[06:50] <Backwards> You have Greel blood in you.
[06:50] <Backwards> Greek blood in you.
[06:51] <Seveas> We probably all have
[06:51] <Backwards> I have Greek blood in me by way of inheritance.
[06:51] <elias_a> Seveas: I seriously doubt that. :)
[06:53] <elias_a> According to genome based research greeks and the whole eastern part of mediterranean have not mixed much with west and north europeans for example.
[06:53] <mike-zal> just upgraded to 16.04. I'm suprised. system is fast and snappy. more then my belowed plasma on manjaro.
[06:53] <YankDownUnder> "Belowed"?
[06:54] <mike-zal> typo ;)
[06:54] <elias_a> mike-zal: It said snap and froze? :P
[06:54] <mike-zal> nope
[06:55] <mike-zal> had to instal ubuntu software manually thou. didn't got it during upgrade
[06:55] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Could the possible oncoming complaint be that it's just too nice, too stable, and nothing's broken?
[06:55] <mike-zal> everything seems to be fine so far. nothing broken. customization stayed. system is more responsive.
[06:56] <mike-zal> well, playmputh changed to lubuntu one (have also lxde installed) but I could easily switch it back to ubuntu one
[06:56] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: If your customisations stayed, well, that's quite a good thing...you're very lucky on that note...
[06:57] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Plymouth boot screens are, well, a dime-a-dozen...pick one you hate the least...for me, it doesn't matter because boot time is less than 8 seconds...
[06:57] <mike-zal> really? I set lot of transparency in compiz plus effects (wobbly windows) and changed my icons. all works well after upgrade
[06:58] <verdammte>  COME HELP ME TROLL #freenode
[06:58] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: You're lucky, then...my compiz - for my "non-Gnome" based desktops, was hosed...but that's a good thing...just had to blow everything out and recreate it...good exercise, that.
[06:58] <mike-zal> I like ubuntu playmouth. clean, simple. also like color.
[06:58] <Seveas> verdammte: no thanks. Kindly behave or begone.
[06:59] <verdammte> Seveas: sorry, one second.  Checking info......
[06:59] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: My preference is one that looks nearly like the OSX boot...but hey, we're all different....
[06:59] <verdammte> Seveas Seveas :is logged in as
[06:59] <mike-zal> well, I used some os x inspired icons. they look better then those that try to imitate os x
[06:59] <verdammte> Hold on, checking ACL....
[06:59] <YankDownUnder> Strewth...
[07:00] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, check out la-capitaine-icon-theme
[07:00] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Hmm...something to dig into on a Sunday evening, yes...
[07:00] <mike-zal> as to plamouth, I don't know os x enough to know what or if playmouth is there
[07:01] <verdammte> Seveas: error, matching ACL not found.  Your authority level is now recognized as 0.00
[07:01] <verdammte> HA HA HA YOU'RE NOT AN OP
[07:01] <mike-zal> I'm very picky about icons. tried plenty of ox x icon clones and they never looked as good as on real ox x. however this icon pack looks great, is not identical to os x, it's flat and modern.
[07:01] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: In the basic Ubuntu repos, there's several Plymouth themes available...you can choose that which you desire...easy enough done...as well, if you're game to make your own, well, then all the more power to ya... :)
[07:02] <cfhowlett> !ops | verdammte kicked once already today for trolling
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> I like flat. I like "modern".      Tex_Nick, i am mature
[07:04] <mike-zal> the usuall pain about icons is: they look good on dock, but horribly in panel, or look good in dock and panel but folder icons suck, etc. hard to find icons that suit for all places perfectly.
[07:05] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: On that token, oddly enough, the icon sets that work with WindowMaker and AfterStep haven't changed in, er, oh, more than 18 years...? ;)
[07:06] <mike-zal> I'm not familiar with those programs
[07:06] <mike-zal> also been using linux since a bit over a year
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Ancient "Window Manglers" from the days before KDE and Gnome...
[07:06] <mike-zal> I'm mostly using manjaro, but also enjoy ubuntu so I installed it on another partition and currently gave it a little love and enjoy the system a lot.
[07:08] <mike-zal> also wanted to try to install skyrim on windows steam on ubuntu in hope it will work better then in manjaro. steam in arch systems is problematic because of newer packages and libs
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Coolbeans...a long time ago, I was heavily involved in "Mandrake" - which ended up becoming "Mandriva" - which then died and split into Manjaro and Mageia...hehehe...they're all good...as long as you're not running M$ stuff, you're good to go...
[07:08] <mike-zal> my polish friedns loved mageia but now they all switched to manjaro
[07:09] <auronandace> YankDownUnder: manjaro is a fork of Arch
[07:09] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: the beauty of it all is that we have choice.
[07:09] <mike-zal> anyway, is there a way to mangae kernels in ubuntu? in manjaro it's easy. don't see anything obvious on ubuntu thou.
[07:09] <mike-zal> I'm not sure if upgrade switched to kernel 4.4 or is still using 4.2
[07:09] <cfhowlett> mike-zal, sudo apt-get autoremove should do the job
[07:11] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: 4.4 should be the go...but yeah, remove the old kernel images unless you've got reason to keep them.  I like to keep two of them for a system in case of emergency.
[07:11] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: ...with Solaris and mixed up kernels...toasted a server installation...
[07:11] <mike-zal> I already had situation where second kernel was usful.
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: I maintain a Fedora box where there are three kernels kept...for reasons of customised software...a bit of a PITA in some instances, but it's been a beauty of a lifesaver in the fact that if the devs make a monster mistake, all is not lost... :)
[07:13] <mike-zal> in manjaro kernels management is very easy. a pity I can't see anything like that on ubuntu. also drivers are pain in the ass on ubuntu, manjaro is better when it comes to it. but I manged. had to manually install bumblebee and manually edit conf files to make nvidia works in ubuntu and finally end fan and overheating problem.
[07:13] <mike-zal> but once I set up everything in ubuntu, I enjoy it a lot
[07:14] <radu> mike-zal
[07:14] <radu> what do u set up ?
[07:15] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: This box (pointing at the workstation I'm using) - merely required some "customisation attention" - otherwise, I shy far away from doing anything other than USING it for important things...like IRC...and torrents...and being a "file server"...very little overhead maintenance...and that, THAT - makes me very happy...
[07:15] <mike-zal> just istalled TLP and nvidia bumblebee drivers. that ended overheating and batter drain craziness.
[07:16] <mike-zal> ubuntu doesn't recognize hybrid gpu out of the box as manjaro does
[07:16] <mike-zal> and because of that all ubuntu and ubuntu derivatives make my fan go crazy by default
[07:17] <radu> can ubuntu run games like windows does ?
[07:17] <mike-zal> sure
[07:17] <radu> how ?
[07:17] <mike-zal> just install steam on wine or playonlinux
[07:17] <cfhowlett> !steam | radu
[07:17] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Understandable..."Plan the work, work the plan" - preparation beforehand is a helpful thing...
[07:18] <mike-zal> I think running steam through wine is easier then unsing playonlinux in case of modding some games
[07:19] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, yeah, after a year with linux and different distros I can handle some minor issues so in the end my installations works perfectly. no issues with manjaro for over a half a year. ubuntu also seems to work fine but I'm testing it shortly.
[07:19] <verdammte> mike-zal: does it eat dog feces?
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: "To each, his own" as it were...inasmuch as I do not do gaming, I'm realtively safe from having to fight/argue with emulation and the likes.
[07:20] <YankDownUnder> Meanwhile, have a lovely evening...time for a nice Sunday evening movie and a coffee. Cheers!
[07:20] <mike-zal> yeah, gaming can be pain in ass but most windows games work if you know your way around linux
[07:20] <verdammte> mike-zal: just eat manure.
[07:21] <verdammte> it solves all your problems!
[07:21] <mike-zal> I don't game much, not enough time for it but if I do, most my beloved games is on windows exclusively so I have no choice as to face issues and solve them ;P
[07:31] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 splash screen missing
[07:31] <ankit> please help
[07:31] <sruli> ankit: which version of ubuntu?
[07:31] <sruli> i mean which flvaour
[07:32] <ankit> sruli ubuntu 16.04
[07:32] <ankit> sruli flvaour??
[07:32] <sruli> ubuntu/lubuntu?
[07:33] <ankit> i think ubuntu
[07:33] <ankit> sruli ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[07:33] <ankit> i checked under About My computer
[07:34] <ankit> sruli can you help?
[07:35] <sruli> ankit: what splash screen are u refering too?
[07:35] <al_nz1> how do you get the dhcp client lease time from nmcli?
[07:36] <ankit> sruli when i start my laptop, there should be an screen with ubuntu logo, but currently it shows black screen
[07:36] <ankit> before login
[07:37] <sruli> hankit: how do u enter password?
[07:37] <ankit> sruli after some time it shows login screen, then i use that login screen
[07:38] <sruli> ankit: you can use arrow key (left) to see text entry
[07:38] <ankit> means
[07:38] <ankit> which text entry, you are talking about
[07:38] <sruli> to enter password
[07:39] <ankit> sruli https://www.thefanclub.co.za/sites/default/files/styles/300-wide/public/images/howto/ubuntu-boot-splash.png?itok=9AT2L2e9
[07:39] <ankit> i am talking about this screen, this screen is missing
[07:40] <sruli> so you see the screen to enter the password?
[07:40] <ankit> sruli yes
[07:41] <NoctSergal> Hi im having issues with a fresh install of ubuntu server 16.04 on an old laptop of mine, i have installed openssh and after fighting with it to keep it running, my wireless card (enthernet is in the worst location ever for being able to get to) and i am unable to connect to it via PuTTY anyone have any ideas ?
[07:41] <ducasse> ankit: so everything other than the splash screen works?
[07:42] <ankit> ducasse yes
[07:42] <sruli> ankit: pastebin the output of "ls /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo"
[07:42] <ducasse> ankit: then why worry about it? that splash screen is not important.
[07:42] <thomasfuston> Aloha, i installed ubuntu 16.04 on an hp detachable, for some reason i dont have any battery life icon on the panel, any ideas?
[07:43] <sruli> thomasfuston: try installing battery-inidicator?
[07:43] <ankit> sruli http://paste.ubuntu.com/20715695/
[07:44] <ankit> sruli http://paste.ubuntu.com/20715695/
[07:45] <ankit> sruli http://paste.ubuntu.com/20715695/
[07:50] <sruli> ankit: was it an upgrade to 16.04 or clean install?
[07:50] <thomasfuston> sruli: how would this package be called?
[07:52] <radu> i`v instaled steam
[07:52] <radu> only that not starting
[07:53] <Dro> how to make an iso file bootable, using mkisofs
[07:56] <sruli> thomasfuston: see if this page helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/473784/battery-indicator-has-disappeared-from-gnome-panel
[07:58] <rajivmars> I have just downloaded the xubuntu-wallpapers on my kubuntu 16.04. but i am not able to get those wallpapers. how do i get them?
[07:58] <silus> hello
[07:58] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, downloaded but not installed?
[07:59] <silus> i hit a restart and steam was instaled
[07:59] <silus> and now steam does not load
[07:59] <silus> :(
[08:00] <ankit> sruli any felp
[08:00] <ankit> help
[08:01] <ankit> ubuntu 16.04 splash screen not showing up
[08:01] <sruli> ankit: was it an upgrade to 16.04 or clean install?
[08:01] <ankit> sruli upgrade from 15.10
[08:01] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: i have downloaded and installed by using the command "sudo apt install xubuntu-wallpapers".
[08:02] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, should be in your desktop settings options
[08:02] <ankit> sruli what can be done??
[08:03] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: yes i have tried in desktop settings, but there it is not showing those wallpapers.
[08:03] <sruli> ankit: i guess the plymouth image dir hasnt updated in the upgrade...  checking..
[08:03] <ankit> any help
[08:04] <ankit> sruli okay i am waiting
[08:08] <ankit> sruli just rebooting my machine, i will be back in 2 mins
[08:09] <mnms_> Hi. I installed tesseract-ocr, this package should contain also unicharset_extractor tool but it doesnt. I found that package for 14.10 has it but Im under 14.04. What can I do get this tool ?
[08:11] <ankit> sruli i am back
[08:11] <ankit> sruli did you find any solution??
[08:12] <ankit> anyone please help
[08:12] <sruli> ankit: paste output of "ls /usr/share/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/"
[08:13] <ankit> sruli http://paste.ubuntu.com/20717944/
[08:14] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, OK let's see where your files went.  first: ls /usr/share/backgrounds
[08:14] <cfhowlett> your new file should be there titled "xfce"
[08:15] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: no it is not there.
[08:16] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, what IS there
[08:16] <ankit> sruli any luck??
[08:17] <ankit> sruli http://paste.ubuntu.com/20717944/
[08:17] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: see this link "http://paste.ubuntu.com/20718192/"
[08:18] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: those are the results after using your command.
[08:18] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, wait 1
[08:20] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, those are the default xubuntu wallpapers - NOT the community wallpapers.  is that what you wanted?
[08:21] <rajivmars> those as well as community wallpapers.
[08:21] <ankit> sruli any luck??
[08:22] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: where are those wallpapers located and how do i get those?
[08:22] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, community wallpapers are in a different package.  I don't use kubuntu and xubuntu might not be installing where kubuntu expects to find things.  alternative plan: apt-get download xubuntu-wallpapers to, say, downloads.  extract the files then point your desktop wallpaper control to those files.
[08:22] <dellwends> ttest
[08:23] <dellwends> test
[08:23] <bayman> how to disable a service from auto start on 16.04?
[08:24] <ankit> sruli i will be back after 10 mins
[08:24] <rajivmars> what is the command to download these wallpapers to the "download" folder?
[08:24] <cfhowlett> apt-get download packagenamehere
[08:24] <ankit> waiting for your response
[08:24] <rajivmars> packagenamehere?
[08:24] <sruli> ankit: paste output of "cat /usr/share/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ ubuntu-logo.plymouth"
[08:25] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, replace with the proper package name
[08:25] <sruli> where can i find a guide on ubotta usage?
[08:25] <cfhowlett> i.e. xubuntu-community-wallpapers
[08:25] <ankit> sruli http://paste.ubuntu.com/20718851/
[08:27] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: but in which folder the package is going to save?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, wherever you downloaded it to.  you decide.
[08:27] <dellwends> anyone here first time like me tried to installed mate 16.0
[08:28] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: if i want to download in the "download" folder, what command i use?
[08:28] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, open a terminal in the Download directory. then execute the download command
[08:28] <dellwends> I got blinking screen upon start up
[08:29] <dellwends> my laptop is dell inspiron 1525 32 bit
[08:29] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: ok.
[08:29] <dellwends> any newbie like me experienced thesame
[08:29] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, mate?  on that old tech?  you might find xubuntu or lubuntu a more workable optoin
[08:30] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: thank you:)
[08:30] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, happy2help!
[08:33] <sruli> ubotto
[08:33] <pam> I'm trying to figure out why my wifi hasn't been working.
[08:33] <sruli> ubottu
[08:34] <sruli> where can i find info for using ubottu in irc?
[08:34] <bekks> Depends on what you want to know.
[08:35] <sruli> how to use? what words i can use...
[08:36] <ducasse> !factoids | sruli
[08:37] <pam> I'm having a weird issue with my HP G60 laptops wifi switch.  For some reason the wifi switch isn't working...as if its always off...sometimes the wifi will go on and sometimes it'll go off.
[08:37] <sruli> !patience
[08:38] <sruli> ducasse: thanks, still dont know where to find a list af all comamnds
[08:38] <ducasse> sruli: did you look at the link?
[08:39] <sruli> ducasse: yes, not all there...
[08:39] <rajivmars> I have just installed synaptic-package-manager, when i open it, i am not able to find the search box? how do i get it?
[08:39] <bekks> sruli: What do you need want to do with ubottu besides asking about the factoids?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, synaptic is seriously old and has been replaced.  why do you need it?
[08:40] <sruli> i found the one i was looking for now, but i have see others used which i dont see on that link, just wondering if there is a full list
[08:40] <bekks> sruli: What do you need want to do with ubottu besides asking about the factoids?
[08:41] <sruli> oh crap, just noticed ther eis 36 pages... i just looked on page 1... i guess its all there
[08:41] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: normally i use the terminal for installing anything. But i thing sometimes synaptic is useful to see clearly what packages are available as well as there details.
[08:42] <bekks> rajivmars: apt-get search is even more clear.
[08:42] <bekks> apt-cache search*
[08:42] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, all of which is easily done from the terminal. example: apt-get -s install hexchat              this will SIMULATE but not EXECUTE the command in verbose fashion
[08:43] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: yes. i think you are wright.
[08:43] <pam> This seems like the issue I'm having with my WIFI not working on my HP G60 laptop...completely perplexed https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604665
[08:45] <buffka> hello
[08:50] <vbotka> pam, what's your current status of 'rfkill list all'
[09:15] <Fri3ndZ> haloo :)
[09:15] <Fri3ndZ> heloo :)
[09:15] <soko> yo
[09:17] <mike-zal> pam_, maybe you have broadcome wifi card? there are often issues with those on various linux distros (not with all models)
[09:17] <mike-zal> usually all it takes is to download driver deb elsewhere and install it
[09:18] <sikun> morning
[09:20] <soko> what is the difference between apt and apt-get
[09:21] <ducasse> soko: apt is a frontend
[09:21] <bekks> apt-get is a frontend, too.
[09:23] <\9> soko: apt is more geared towards end-users
[09:25] <soko> cool
[09:25] <galt> 5656
[09:26] <Drone01837102190> We are the Borg.
[09:26] <Drone93019302791> Resistance is futile.
[09:26] <Drone10371948393> You will surrender to us.
[09:35] <shadowmancer1> Hola all, weird issue I've been running into and been researching and kind of come up with zilch. So basically using a cheap netbook I got from Aldi i got a few years ago, I loaded Lubuntu 16.04, which needed a bit of poking to get the GUI to work but that isn't the issue (Didn't load the intel video drivers which wasn't so hard).
[09:35] <shadowmancer1> The issue is with my wifi, I have an Atheros Wifi card AR9285, and it seems to not want to connect to my wifi no matter what I do.
[09:35] <shadowmancer1> 'lspci' shows I'm using ath9k, which appears to be right according to all the ubuntu forums.
[09:35] <shadowmancer1> 'rfkill list all' shows no hard or soft blocks in place
[09:35] <shadowmancer1> I've attempted to connected via wpa_supplicant in the cli, though found that after it said everything was running when I tried dhclient it seemed stuck on discover.
[09:35] <shadowmancer1> Here's a dump of my syslog http://pastebin.com/53jdTpRi.
[09:44] <soko> cant help with the wifi but would recommend ubuntu's network install mini.iso if you have ethernet
[09:44] <bekks> soko: He already installed Ubuntu. :)
[09:44] <Ben64> that would be much harder to get set up
[09:44] <soko> bekks: ah :)
[09:49] <ducasse> shadowmancer1: seems to have problems authenticating to me, looks like it authenticates and gets kicked off a few seconds later. all the dhcp stuff i can see seems to be for a wired interface, wireless never gets to that point.
[10:00] <shadowmancer1>  ducasse: I have loaded up my question to http://askubuntu.com/questions/802315/atheros-ar9285-wont-connect-to-wpa2 but at the end of the log dump, it does cover the wlp7s0
[10:01] <ducasse> shadowmancer1: at what timestamp? i must have missed it, long log.
[10:02] <shadowmancer1> ducasse: 3469.920814
[10:08] <ducasse> shadowmancer1: yes, that's doing what i said - trying to auth. that message does not come from the dhcp client.
[10:10] <ducasse> shadowmancer1: first you see "authenticate with...", "authenticated", "associate with...", "associated" and 4 seconds later "disassociated".
[10:11] <shadowmancer1> ducasse: I can't figure out why it isn't authing though, it seems no matter what I do it doesn't want to accept the password, and I don't want to drop down to WEP, and it doesn't give me the option to change encryption types, so I'm assuming it is using AES, and as I said, I've tried the whole wpa_supplicant from the command line, and nmcli and it doesn't seem to pass mustard either. I can't seem to find the log for wpa_supplican
[10:15] <ducasse> shadowmancer1: the man page says it logs to stdout, and there is a switch to log to syslog.
[10:15] <ducasse> shadowmancer1: you can't select encryption type on the router?
[10:17] <shadowmancer1> ducasse: It only lets me use WPA2 Personal with AES (well it does give the option of WPA1 with TKIP), as for the syslog, didn't realize that, will have to fix that up. Late where I am so off to bed, thanks for the advice and I'll use it to further my investigation :)
[10:33] <hypest> Hey guys, hope this is the right channel to ask: has anyone had any success using the `fnmode` of hid_apple with the latest external BT Magic Keyboard on 16.04?
[10:39] <Shadowbird123> hey, my sounds worked yesterday, but today after startingup my computer there is no sounds. i checked cables and that speakers work with other devices and that wolume is up and no mute.
[10:46] <Shadowbird123> ok, i changed Digital Output (S/PDIF) | build-in Audio to Headphines | build-in Audio and now its working.. im not sure if i have accidentaly changed it yesterday or if it should work with Digital Output (S/PDIF) as default
[10:51] <backbox> If i wanted to go into computer security where would the best place to start be?
[10:51] <bazhang> ##security for that please backbox
[10:51] <bekks> backbox: Start with using a sane OS. And dont ask backbox questions in here :P
[11:01] <mysticTot> Is it possible to prevent fork bomb by using kernel configuration option CONFIG_CGROUP_PIDS=y i.e,  PIDs controller
[11:02] <bekks> mysticTot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23533/how-to-protect-ubuntu-from-fork-bomb
[11:03] <mysticTot> That I know, I'm a kernel guy and want to know about this kernel configuration
[11:04] <mysticTot> everything is controlled by .config file
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> mysticTot  there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[11:04] <mike-zal> bsf, bsq, I/O scheduler and some more stuff
[11:04] <mike-zal> you can check manjaro PKGBUILD on github.
[11:07] <mike-zal> mysticTot, https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-kernel-patches/6156/6
[11:07] <mysticTot> Thanks everyone :)
[11:09] <Mr_Pan> !chiedi
[11:11] <mike-zal> mysticTot, ah, I mixed channels ;). though I'm on manjaro one :P
[11:12] <arjuna> hiii
[11:18] <mysticTot> thanks /mike-zal
[11:33] <mike_papa> Help please! I'm trying to extend vm guest disk (Ubuntu Server 16.04.1). I've created new partition /dev/sda3 type 8e, and pvreate gives me " Device /dev/sda3 not found (or ignored by filtering).". I have no filters in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf (global_filters line is commented out).
[11:34] <mike_papa> What's going on? fdisk -l lists /dev/sda3 normally
[11:34] <mike_papa> Partprobe -s :  /dev/sda: msdos partitions 1 3 2 <5>
[11:34] <mike_papa> and no errors
[11:35] <mike_papa> but pvcreate doesn't work.
[11:38] <dahlia_> hi
[11:40] <dahlia_> i am using ubuntu 14.04 so i am not able to run latest version of genymotion. i googled alot but i couldn't find older version. would you mind suggest me some links?
[11:43] <ducasse> mike_papa: so you've extended the vm guest disk, created a partition, and you're trying to create a new pv on that partition - is that correct?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> find genymotion trusty
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !find genymotion trusty
[11:45] <mike_papa> ducasse: Yes.
[11:45] <dahlia_> how can i add it to my repository
[11:46] <mike_papa> ducasse: I tried using vgexted without prior pvcreate, but it throws same error (I believe it's doing pvcreate behind the sceene).
[11:48] <sina> test
[11:49] <ducasse> mike_papa: it probably does, but it's still odd. especially since other tools see it. did you try pvcreate -f?
[11:50] <dasdad> ?
[11:50]  * dasdad 23
[11:50] <minimec> dahlia_: Looks that you have to sign for a free account to be able to download the genymotion software.
[11:50] <mike_papa> ducasse: same effect with -f. I tried -d to see some more details, but nothing else appeared.
[11:51] <dahlia_> minimec, i have created and account, but the latest version of genymotion works in ubuntu 15.10 and above
[11:51] <ducasse> mike_papa: anything in dmesg or kern.log when you run it?
[11:52] <mike_papa> ducasse: nothing.
[11:53] <ducasse> mike_papa: the only other suggestion i have would be to create the pv on a new block device you add to the guest, but that might not be what you want...
[11:53] <mike_papa> I've never touched lvm.conf, so it should be ok.
[11:54] <andrzej> hi
[11:54] <andrzej> can I make dd copy of USB drive even if my system is not able to read USB Drive file system? Is dd doing 1:1 copy?
[11:54] <minimec> dahlia_: Oh I see, so you get dependency problems. Well... you either try to solve them or contact the genymotion support and ask for a possible solution. I don't think that you will find older versions easily, and if you do so, I would not consider them trustworthy...
[11:54] <ducasse> mike_papa: sorry, no idea. you could try #ubuntu-server?
[11:54] <mike_papa> ducasse: I'll reinstall system then. Good it happend just after I set it up. I just didn't realize unifi controller needs so much space in /var
[11:54] <Queenslayer> Is Linux Mint based on Ubuntu?
[11:55] <mike_papa> ducasse: thanks anyway.
[11:55] <andrzej> Queenslayer: yes, but they are changing a lot of stuff and forking default tools
[11:55] <Queenslayer> Except for certain things, it seems to be Debian/Ubuntu
[11:55] <Queenslayer> andrzej: I like it nonetheless
[11:55] <Unskipp> Hello everyone. I have installed ubuntu 16.04 on my new laptop and suspend doesn't work. It goes in suspend but when it resumes, it restarts completly. I tried to edit /etc/default/grub with acpi_sleep=nonvs and update it after but it doesn't help. ANy suggestions guys ?
[11:56] <andrzej> Queenslayer: thats fine :) I just said that because I tough you want to know :)
[11:56] <Queenslayer> Unskipp: I think that's a bug
[11:56] <Queenslayer> andrzej: Thanks for clarification
[11:56] <Unskipp> Queenslayer: I also tried different kernel versions (4.6.4 i believe it was) same problem. Should I try an older kernel / older ubuntu version ?
[11:56] <Queenslayer> Unskipp: I've had similar issues with my desktop, many suggested trying different kernels
[11:56] <Queenslayer> lol exactly
[11:57] <Queenslayer> I don't think it'll work
[11:57] <andrzej> Unskipp: you may want to check Ubuntu bugzilla (is it called lunchpad?) for solution
[11:57] <Queenslayer> It's possibly a variety of issues, kernel downgrade/upgrade being one of them
[11:57] <Unskipp> andrzej: I did try, many suggested editing the grub with acpi_sleep but it didn't fix it for me.
[11:57] <Queenslayer> Unskipp: Try older kernel then
[11:57] <Queenslayer> And after that, just leave it
[11:58] <Queenslayer> Unless you're a dev, it's not worth the hassle
[11:58] <Queenslayer> I've moved to Linux Mint because of it
[11:58] <ducasse> Unskipp: easiest thing would be to try 14.04 live usb for example.
[11:58] <Queenslayer> For some setups, it just doesn't work
[11:58] <Unskipp> Queenslayer: Alright, I`ll try some other kernels.
[11:59] <Unskipp> ducasse: can i suspend from live usb and then resume ? (never done that)
[11:59] <dahlia_> minimec, thanks now guys in 14.04 what can they do?
[12:00] <ducasse> Unskipp: i would think so.
[12:00] <dahlia_> guys, why ubuntu 16.04 in notmal situation uses memory about 1.4 gb but ubuntu 14.04 about 400 mb , really why?
[12:00] <Unskipp> ducasse: Alright. I will try. Would it make a difference if i try arch linux and test dev kernel ?
[12:01] <minimec> dahlia_: that version of genymotion, that you can download... Does it come as a .deb package?
[12:01] <Queenslayer> ducasse: better to mess around with kernel installations first
[12:02] <dahlia_> minimec, it was .bin
[12:02] <ducasse> Unskipp: maybe. there are also lots of acpi tuning you can try, but someone else here might be more familiar than me with that.
[12:02] <minimec> dahlia_: Did you try to install it?
[12:03] <dahlia_> minimec, yeah i try alot, it was failed at all
[12:04] <ducasse> Queenslayer: a 14.04 live image is a very easy way to test an older kernel...
[12:04] <dahlia_> minimec, http://pastebin.com/nzBuLG1W , it is my error
[12:05] <dahlia_> guys, why ubuntu 16.04 in notmal situation uses memory about 1.4 gb but ubuntu 14.04 about 400 mb , really why?
[12:05] <Queenslayer> Unity?
[12:06] <samgoody> Hi all.
[12:06] <samgoody> I have a text file, which I need to split on delimiter. (in this case "——")
[12:07] <codex404> allo :v
[12:08] <RonWhoCares> How do I make the changes @ http://askubuntu.com/a/189364/453336 permanent?
[12:08] <samgoody> The text of the file is Hebrew, and csplit seems to have garbled the output
[12:08] <samgoody> I read somewhere since that csplit doesn't handle unicode
[12:09] <samgoody> The output should be saved in incremeted file names.
[12:09] <ahrc333ff> RonWhoCares: this is something I wasn't able to resolve cleanly. The solution I had for this was to create a startup script that ran with user login.
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> samgoody  try in the channel #bash , if you don't get an answer here
[12:10] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: 'man xorg.conf' - you can create a snippet to add a mode and set it to default.
[12:10] <samgoody> Oh, good idea
[12:11] <ahrc333ff> ahrc333ff: on my machine I couldn't get any output to my monitor, so for me that meant I had to ssh into my machine to run the script, then the monitor would turn on o_0 lol. Not pleasant.
[12:11] <RonWhoCares> ducasse: This is a good idea.  Which xord.conf should I edit?  There are several
[12:11] <craptalk> how to access phpmyadmin on ubuntu after installation?
[12:12] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: you just create a snippet with what you need, and add it /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[12:12] <minimec> dahlia_: "sudo apt-get install libstdc++6"
[12:12] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: (unless one of the others deals with modes, then add it there)
[12:13] <minimec> dahlia_: Try to find some installation manual or readme file. There should be something like that...
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  old post (2010) ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/19127/how-to-access-phpmyadmin-after-installation
[12:14] <RonWhoCares> ducasse: I've created the file.  I am rebooting
[12:15] <andrzej> dahlia_: what if I tell you that my 16.04 technically uses 16GB of RAM and this is a good thing?
[12:17] <dahlia_> minimec, thanks mr , i will try and notify you the result
[12:18] <dahlia_> andrzej, you have perfect pc, really it uses 16 gb?????????
[12:18] <minimec> dahlia_: It is probably installed already... You could try to apt-pin a newer version to you 14.04 installation, but that is not the easiest thing, if you have never done it before...
[12:19] <ducasse> dahlia_: mine has ~300mb free of 32gb. most of that is used on cache.
[12:20] <RonWhoCares> ducasse: That didn't work.  When I rebooted I got an error message 'Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors'
[12:20] <andrzej> dahlia_: roughly 16GB, at the moment it shows 4.5 GB of normal memory and 11GB of caches are kept in stam
[12:20] <dahlia_> ducasse, are you talking about hard usage?? :-0
[12:20] <andrzej> *ram
[12:20] <Backwards> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[12:20] <dahlia_> minimec, so what can i do? :-/
[12:21] <ducasse> dahlia_: memory not in use by applications is used for cache, so it's normal that memory appears nearly full. it will be freed up when needed.
[12:21] <minimec> dahlia_: As I told you. Try to contact the genymotion support, consider an upgrade to 16.04 or try to debug dependencies. Third optoin is the hardest one ;)
[12:22] <dahlia_> andrzej, oh oh oh oh, oh my god :-/, i can sell you my ubuntu 16.04 , it is very cheap and uses just 1.4 gb
[12:22] <andrzej> dahlia_: it's not hard usage, I have 2 chrome instances with about 20 tabs, robule file explorer windows, spotify and couple small apps, that takes those 4.5GB rest of it is for caches
[12:22] <RonWhoCares> ducasse: The lines I added into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d are:   http://pastebin.com/cCcvYbjS
[12:23] <dahlia_> ducasse, oh, but my system freezed after running light app like music player, but it has about 2gb free ram
[12:24] <andrzej> dahlia_: I don't consider it bad, from my perspective free RAM is wasted RAM, if I have 16GB in my machine I want this to work for me not lay around for that one occasion when I will run something memory intensive
[12:24] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: that won't work. you are trying to edit a directory and add shell commands. read the man page i pointed you to, that shows you how to add a mode.
[12:25] <RonWhoCares> what is the man command again
[12:25] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: 'man xorg.conf'
[12:26] <dahlia_> andrzej, it means that ubuntu 16.04 is better than ubuntu 14.04 in ram usage??? am i understood correcly?
[12:26] <ducasse> dahlia_: they're probably about the same.
[12:27] <androiduser8_> dahila_: You should upgrade to ubuntu 16.04
[12:27] <aruns> Hi. I am using XFCE on Ubuntu 14.04.
[12:27] <aruns> How can I get a taskbar icon for wifi connections?
[12:27] <androiduser8_> aruns: You should use 16.04
[12:27] <aruns> Currently, it displays as notification popups.
[12:27] <aruns> androiduser8_: I've got an ancient laptop, so no.
[12:28] <andrzej> dahlia_: I don't know actually, last time when I used ubuntu it was 12.10 than I went OSX and I back on ubuntu since 15.10 but in comparision with 12.10 it is more efficient despite the fact it needs more ram to even get started
[12:28] <ducasse> aruns: isn't nm-applet running?
[12:28] <androiduser8_> aruns: Then get a newer laptop
[12:28] <bekks> dahlia_: Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Unless you have a memory overcommitment, memory usage doesnt say much.
[12:28] <dahlia_> androiduser8_, i have 16.04 nearby 14.04 , but when i worked with android studio 16.04 it hangs and i should force reboot
[12:28] <aruns> androiduser8_: I'm happy with 14.04.
[12:28] <ducasse> androiduser8_: that's not very helpful.
[12:28] <andrzej> dahlia_: on what machine you have that ubuntu install? what cpu, how much ram?
[12:28] <androiduser8_> Then you should upgrade android studio
[12:29] <aruns> ...
[12:29] <aruns> ducasse: I will check.
[12:29] <dahlia_> andrzej, cpu core i 3 and ram about 4 gb
[12:29] <androiduser8_> :)
[12:30] <aruns> ducasse: Do I check for nm-applet under Settings > Panel?
[12:30] <dahlia_> bekks, omg , but i thought that my system hanging is becuse of memory usage
[12:30] <andrzej> dahlia_: I consider 4GB as minimum for Ubuntu (Unity needs more RAM than it should). With that amount of RAM I would consider Ubuntu Mate or Xubuntu if you want to go to 16.04
[12:30] <ducasse> aruns: 'pgrep nm-applet' for example
[12:30] <minimec> aruns: open a terminal and 'pidof nm-applet'
[12:31] <bekks> Ubuntu runs fine with 2GB or RAM.
[12:31] <minimec> aruns: You should get a process number.
[12:31] <bekks> dahlia_: How about looking at "free -m" then :)
[12:31] <aruns> The process ID for nm-applet is 2527.
[12:31] <androiduser8_> How about /dev/null?
[12:31] <andrzej> dahlia_: BTW it is the best time to go to 16.04 because 16.04.1 has been released which in short is kind of like Service Pack for ubuntu
[12:31] <minimec> aruns: So its running
[12:31] <aruns> minimec: It appears so.
[12:32] <andrzej> bekks: Ubuntu _RUNS_ on 2GB of RAM, would not consider it _fine_
[12:32] <androiduser8_> command > /dev/sda
[12:32] <dahlia_> andrzej, i went to ubuntu becuse i hated microsoft windows, windows wasn't bad but ubuntu was more fast than window, but now ubuntu 16.04 is hang all time
[12:32] <androiduser8_> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda
[12:33] <ducasse> androiduser8_: stop trolling.
[12:33] <bekks> andrzej: It runs FINE with 2GB RAM.
[12:33] <androiduser8_> Those commands don't even do anything in this chat window
[12:33] <bekks> dahlia_: So take a look at free -m for finding out wether you have a memory issue.
[12:33] <dahlia_> i went to ubuntu just because of my less memory and cpu
[12:33] <tigefa> why 16.04 hang @dahlia_
[12:33] <bekks> andrzej: Because OS commands in a chat window are expected to do nothing.
[12:34] <bekks> androiduser8_: ^^
[12:34] <andrzej> bekks: well I still prefer to have more RAM for cache that is speeding up system massively
[12:34] <minimec> bekks: andrzej: I agree. Fedora 24 with gnome3 on 2GB Ram Chromebook runs like charm too.
[12:34] <dahlia_> tigefa, just i ran android studio and geny motion on it, somtimes when i am listening to music also it hangs
[12:34] <androiduser8_> So therefore, is it troling because you are trying to get people to destroy their computers on purspoe or something??
[12:35] <dahlia_> bekks, half of memmory is used and swap is empty
[12:35] <tigefa> ouh, that big one @dahlia_ :)
[12:35] <bekks> !ops | androiduser8_
[12:35] <androiduser8_> bekks is correct
[12:35] <bekks> dahlia_: very exact values, aka "the whole output" is important.
[12:35] <dahlia_> tigefa, and what about music player, it is just a light application :-(
[12:36] <aruns> ducasse: Hi, I've gone into Session and Startup window on XFCE, and under Application Autostart, I've found Indicator Network which I presume is what I need.
[12:36] <ducasse> aruns: most likely :)
[12:37] <aruns> ducasse: I click the tickbox to select it, but it doesn't appear to be saving changes?
[12:37] <dahlia_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[12:37] <dahlia_> Mem:          3805       2482       1323        240        185       1060
[12:37] <dahlia_>  and android studio is closed
[12:37] <dahlia_> i am sorry because of bad arrange
[12:37] <bekks> !pastebin | dahlia_
[12:38] <dahlia_> ubottu, ok my lovely
[12:38] <ducasse> aruns: isn't there a button to save changes? haven't used xfce 4.10 in a looong time.
[12:38] <bekks> dahlia_: you have 4GB RAM, 1.3G free, aka unused, and 1G of the 2.5G used are caches. You dont have a memory issue. And with Ubuntustudio closed, those values are irrelevant.
[12:38] <dahlia_> http://pastebin.com/LLy4QDpD
[12:39] <__raven_> hi
[12:39] <andrzej> __raven_: hi
[12:40] <aruns> ducasse: Doesn't seem to be :/
[12:40] <dahlia_> bekks, ohhhhh i am sorry , at now i am in ubuntu 14.04 , i will come back soon with my ubuntu 16.04
[12:40] <__raven_> how to force max fan speed on acer aspire e5-573 with ubuntu 16.04?
[12:41] <ducasse> aruns: i think there is in 4.12, but i can't remember for 4.10. sorry. i would just try checking the box and log out and back in.
[12:43] <thomas_25> i've added another user and added him to sudo group but still he can't sudo. any idea?
[12:43] <ducasse> thomas_25: has he logged out/in?
[12:43] <thomas_25> yes
[12:44] <thomas_25> btw, i'm switching to the new user via 'sudo -e newuser'
[12:44] <thomas_25> 'sudo - newuser'
[12:44] <andrzej> thomas_25: what command you used to add him to sudo?
[12:44] <ducasse> thomas_25: is the sudo group listed by 'groups'?
[12:44] <thomas_25> not -e, would that make a different, i hardly think so
[12:45] <thomas_25> adduser newuser sudo
[12:45] <thomas_25> when i log into the new user and type `id` i can see that he is a member of sudo
[12:45] <andrzej> thomas_25: tu switch to other user do 'su newuser'
[12:46] <andrzej> after you switch to newuser try something like 'sudo ls /'
[12:46] <andrzej> does it works?
[12:46] <thomas_25> it asks for password
[12:46] <andrzej> password of newuser
[12:46] <thomas_25> aha
[12:46] <thomas_25> the default user works without password because it doesn't have one i suppose eh
[12:47] <andrzej> thomas_25: are you on live usb or on installed instance of ubuntu?
[12:47] <thomas_25> installed instance
[12:47] <bekks> For using the environment of the new user, you should use su - newuser, not su newuser. And for testing out sudo abilities of newuser, just take a look at the group memberships.
[12:47] <thomas_25> but it's an amazon instance, i haven't installed it manually
[12:47] <andrzej> so you have to have pass on your user
[12:48] <andrzej> oh, I don't know about amazon, it should have pass on your username but I have no idea
[12:48] <tigefa> @thomas_25 try this http://askubuntu.com/q/192050/239556
[12:48] <andrzej> tigefa: I think he solved it
[12:48] <andrzej> adduser newuser sudo works perfect on ubuntu
[12:48] <thomas_25> sudo works fine, now, there was no problem to begin with
[12:48] <__raven_> how to force max fan speed on acer aspire e5-573 with ubuntu 16.04?
[12:48] <thomas_25> just my expectation was off, new user can sudo if he enters his password
[12:48] <thomas_25> default user doesn't need to enter his password to issue sudo
[12:49] <tigefa> usermod -aG sudo newuser
[12:50] <ducasse> __raven_: install fancontrol, i think.
[12:50] <__raven_> ducasse: i tried but "no drivers"
[12:50] <andrzej> thomas_25: apparently yes, but remember it is wildly unsecure to not have pass on your account, there is also, how I called it, "sudo memory :)", basically ubuntu remembers that you authenticated sudo on your account and for 5 minutes or so don't ask you for putting password again if you are using sudo
[12:50] <__raven_> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[12:51] <andrzej> thomas_25: thats may be the reason why system did not ask you for a pass when you used sudo on your account
[12:51] <ducasse> __raven_: you might need to run sensors-detect.
[12:52] <Siavash> Hi guys
[12:52] <andrzej> Siavash: hi
[12:53] <Siavash> 16.04.1 was released on July 21st but do-release-upgrade on 14.04.4 does not detect it.
[12:53] <__raven_> ducasse: sensors are fine but i cannot control the fans
[12:53] <andrzej> Siavash: wait couple more days, it will come to you
[12:53] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | Siavash
[12:54] <Siavash> Thanks for the info :)
[12:55] <sabrehagen> i'm looking to make an installer for my binary using fpm (https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm). my application is a 'package' in that it is composed of a number of files; binaries, supporting libraries, localisation, etc. where should I install my application folder to comply with ubuntu common practices?
[12:56] <YourMomIsBoring> poop
[12:56] <ducasse> sabrehagen: ask in #ubuntu-packaging
[12:56] <YourMomIsBoring> shit crap nigger fuck
[12:56] <sabrehagen> ducasse: ty
[12:56] <YourMomIsBoring> the dong penis!
[12:56] <ducasse> !ops | YourMomIsBoring
[12:56] <YourMomIsBoring> !ops the cockadoodledoo cock
[12:57] <YourMomIsBoring> !ops where can i find a clitoris
[12:57] <sabrehagen> lol
[12:57] <YourMomIsBoring> !ops weiner in the cunt
[12:57] <sabrehagen> this guy is gonna get it
[12:57] <YourMomIsBoring> !ops all y'all's momma's are boring me half to death
[12:58] <YourMomIsBoring> fine, insufficient attention gained by trolling
[12:58] <YourMomIsBoring> stage 2 of my evil plan.....
[12:58] <YourMomIsBoring> UNLEASH THE FLOODGATES OF THE NICKSPAM!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <sarvsav> Hello everyone, I need a little help related to cron jobs and pipes
[12:59] <minimec> sabrehagen: /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share / probably.  The cron job is 00 * * * * helloworld.sh
[13:00] <bekks> sarvsav: that will not work, since your script diesnt contain a header line and you arent using an absolute path for the textfile.
[13:00] <MyLifeIsSoBoring> no killing and absolutely no klining is allowed!
[13:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> sarvsav, sure, '>' rewrites the entire file, use '>>' for appending
[13:00] <MyLifeIsSoBoring> !ops still waiting for u all to kiss my ass
[13:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh.
[13:00] <MyLifeIsSoBoring> !ops spam
[13:00] <MyLifeIsSoBoring> !ops ubottu
[13:01] <sarvsav> bekks: I tried adding #!/bin/bash as header.
[13:01] <bekks> sarvsav: thats required.
[13:01] <sarvsav> The problem is echo commands set output to screen
[13:01] <bekks> sarvsav: and you need a full path to the textfile.
[13:01] <sarvsav> but when executing via cron, there is no stdout
[13:01] <sarvsav> hence the file isnot creating
[13:01] <bekks> sarvsav: Because you need an absolute path...
[13:01] <sarvsav> Does this works
[13:02] <sarvsav> ~sarvsav/Destop ?
[13:02] <sarvsav> ~sarvsav/Destop/helloworld.txt ?
[13:02] <bekks> sarvsav: No. Thats a relative path.  Ran SMART quickscan on it, a bunch of fields say old age or pre-fail but it shows the general assessment at OK, what should I do?
[13:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WheatThins I would use the drive as little as possible
[13:08] <_unreal_> WheatThins, what partition format is the HD?
[13:08] <minimec> WheatThins: Backup... ;)
[13:08] <Eduard_Munteanu> WheatThins, it's fine.
[13:08] <Eduard_Munteanu> WheatThins, "old age" and "pre-fail" represent the type of wear/failure *in case* they fail.
[13:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko> get another drive and backup what you REALLY need, then what you need and then anything else you wish
[13:08] <_unreal_> WheatThins, what format is your partition? on this drive
[13:08] <WheatThins> _unreal_: NTFS
[13:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> _unreal_ NTFS based on what he said
[13:09] <ToAruShiroiNeko> WheatThins dont panic
[13:09] <WheatThins> minimec:  hard to back up when it's the largest harddrive with you and you're half the planet away from home
[13:09] <_unreal_> ya :) just get a strong drink
[13:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> Pre-fail fields are those that may foretell a drive failure if they get out of range.
[13:09] <WheatThins> Anything I can do that's proactive? It was showing as 0% usage in Windows
[13:10] <WheatThins> _unreal_: strong drink at the ready
[13:10] <_unreal_> heh
[13:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> WheatThins, it's fine, unless the row registers as failed.
[13:10] <WheatThins> Would it be good to defrag it or run fsck
[13:10] <_unreal_> do you only use the drive on windows or do you also use it on linux?
[13:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> No need to.
[13:11] <WheatThins> _unreal_: I use it on both
[13:11] <_unreal_> WheatThins, !! ding ding ding ding
[13:11] <WheatThins> Eduard_Munteanu: going for peace of mind here, just want to make sure it won't harm it to use it, even if I don't need to
[13:11] <WheatThins> _unreal_: it's NTFS though not like ext4
[13:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> WheatThins, like I said, all SMART parameters are either prefail or oldage, there's no "good" type.
[13:12] <WheatThins> Eduard_Munteanu: ty
[13:12] <_unreal_> WheatThins, NTFS is a format that is for windows. when writing to an NTFS drive using linux. there is th potential to mess up the format
[13:12] <_unreal_> I have delt with it before.... do what you can to pack up your files that you need
[13:12] <WheatThins> _unreal_: is there a better cross platform format that isn't fat32?
[13:12] <ikonia> no
[13:13] <WheatThins> balls.
[13:13] <_unreal_> you can add support for ext2 in windows and other formats but fat32 is really your best choices
[13:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
[13:13] <Eduard_Munteanu>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
[13:13] <_unreal_> WheatThins, never write to an NTFS drive using linux it will Fark the partition
[13:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> You can see the WHEN_FAILED field is -, so it did NOT fail.
[13:14] <WheatThins> I don't much care for FAT32 as I have files larger than 4GB sometimes
[13:14] <mike-zal2> is it possible to expand system's partition without braking fstab and similar settings?
[13:14] <ikonia> WheatThins: it's not going to work out well for you
[13:14] <ikonia> mike-zal2: fstab has nothing to do with the size
[13:14] <mike-zal2> I need more space and I have on disk, but not on the system partiton...
[13:15] <ikonia> mike-zal2: boot from a livecd, resize it, job done
[13:15] <mike-zal2> ikonia, sorry, I might have mistaken something in such case. anyway, I mean without breaking system
[13:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> mike-zal2, depends on the disk layout and partitioning
[13:15] <mike-zal2> so just boot to another linux, resize partition and it will run?
[13:15] <ikonia> mike-zal2: if you have free space to either side of the partition you want to grow, you can grow it from a livecd
[13:15] <ikonia> mike-zal2: boot from a media that is not using that partition
[13:15] <mike-zal2> have another distro on another partion so I can use it for that
[13:16] <ikonia> mike-zal2: is it the same disk ?
[13:16] <_unreal_> ikonia, are you using LV or extX partitions? if your using LV you'll beak something changing sizes
[13:16] <mike-zal2> yes, but different partition
[13:16] <mike-zal2> no encryption
[13:16] <ikonia> _unreal_: no you won't
[13:16] <ikonia> mike-zal2: then no - boot from live media
[13:16] <mike-zal2> ok, then from live
[13:17] <mike-zal2> thanks
[13:18] <_unreal_> mike-zal2, just make sure your not exceeding your partition size meaning dont expand one and shrink an other where it over laps your written data. gparted wont let you but non gui partitioning programs may let you
[13:19]  * _unreal_ learned the hard way many moons ago
[13:19] <mike-zal2> I just have empty partition for windows but haven't used it since over a year so I just delete it and expand this one on it.
[13:20] <_unreal_> then your all set
[13:20] <mike-zal2> ok. thanks. will be back later, if I succeed ;P
[13:31] <titanus> Hello
[13:31] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[13:34] <blackbird_> Hello SchrodingersScat
[13:34] <SchrodingersScat> blackbird_: how'd that thing work out for you the other day?
[13:35] <blackbird_> What thing I forgot it ?
[13:36] <SchrodingersScat> And I'm on my first cup of coffee, so I don't recall either.  Can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want.
[13:41] <bunjee> can anyone help me setup an "su" password?
[13:41] <poops> trying to add a new nic to ubuntu 16 (vm)
[13:42] <poops> when running ip link I see the 2 intefaces )ens160 and ens33)
[13:42] <poops> when trying to do ifup on ens33 i get unknown interface error
[13:42] <poops> what am I doing wrong?
[13:43] <poops> ip link does hsow noop state down mode - dont know what that means
[13:43] <bunjee> poops - I can't help - don't know much about Linux.....
[13:43] <ducasse> bunjee: what do you mean by 'su password'?
[13:44] <Xplict> super user?
[13:45] <bunjee> ducasse - Xplicit - yes - I'm just trying to figure out how to setup a super user password
[13:45] <SchrodingersScat> !root | bunjee
[13:45] <ducasse> !root | bunjee
[13:46] <SchrodingersScat> bunjee: use sudo and it's the same as your user password if you've the right privileges
[13:47] <bunjee> okay - so I don't need an su password?
[13:47] <ducasse> bunjee: no
[13:48] <bunjee> alright - thanks all!
[13:51] <poops> anyone?
[13:51] <mike-zal> resizing partition went well, no issues, everything seems to be in order :)
[13:51] <mike-zal> thanks guys
[13:53] <Dro> hi
[13:53] <Dro> i have an apple disk image (dmg) i want to convert it to iso, any idea how can i do that in ubuntu?
[13:54] <fujisan> hello
[13:54] <fujisan> does ubuntu snoop on users?
[13:55] <fujisan> is it truly free Richard Stallman told me to come here and ask the developers
[13:55] <fujisan> im here for freedom
[13:56] <fujisan> is ubuntu ethical?
[13:56] <mike-zal> fujisan, here are only normal users, no devs
[13:56] <fujisan> we should unite
[13:56] <ducasse> Dro: look at dmg2img and go from there. you would need to convert from hfsplus to is9660.
[13:56] <pauljw> and we're all snooping on you, fujisan
[13:56] <fujisan> Richard Stallman addressed that ubuntu
[13:56] <fujisan> isnt ethical
[13:57] <fujisan> not truly free snooping on the users
[13:57] <mike-zal> it's outdated discussion
[13:57] <Dro> ducasse, i converted it to img, but can't make an iso file :s
[13:57] <blackbird1> Dro, sudo dd if=/dev/sdaX of=/home/username/image.iso
[13:57] <fujisan> has it been addressed and fixed?
[13:57] <mike-zal> fujisan, depends on what you mean by snooping but web and amazon searches are off by default now
[13:57] <ducasse> Dro: no, because it's hfsplus. you need to convert to iso9660.
[13:58] <Dro> ducasse, how can i do that?
[13:58] <fujisan> and offering software that isnt truly free
[13:58] <Dro> ducasse, i tried to convert it with dmg2img, i got an img file, then i mounted it
[13:58] <fujisan> thanks mike-zal
[13:58] <ducasse> Dro: easiest way is to just copy the files in the image and build an iso image from that.
[13:58] <Dro> then i created an iso file using mkisof (or something like that)..
[13:59] <fujisan> im banned from a lot of ubuntu channels
[13:59] <fujisan> but i agree with Stallman
[13:59] <Dro> well at last the iso is not working
[13:59] <blackbird1> Dro, or GUI by using Brasero Disc Burner
[13:59] <fujisan> that's probably why
[13:59] <pauljw> fujisan, you should use stallman's hurd, oh wait, after 30+ years he still doesn't have it right.  so much for his genius...
[13:59] <fujisan> there is no freedom on irc
[13:59] <ducasse> !ot | fujisan
[13:59] <mike-zal> fujisan, ubuntu is company based not community based. you can't expect from it to listen to community. it's not a democracy. they have a user target and try to adjust their distro to that target. if you want community based distro, use mint for example
[14:00] <fujisan> it's not free speech if i speak something that ubuntu doesnt like i end up banned quieted muted
[14:00] <ducasse> fujisan: no, you're just off topic.
[14:00] <fujisan> here comes the irony im banned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:00] <fujisan> but not ubuntu -_-
[14:01] <mike-zal> fujisan, don't see any issue. there is plenty of choice out there. doesn't like canonical policy? use different distro. this is so simple. freedom of choice. stallman sees only one way and calls it freedom... no thanks. there is a room for paid and free software.
[14:01] <ikonia> nothing ironic there
[14:02] <Dro> blackbird1, ducasse , i already got an iso file that looks fine, using mkisofs.. its just not boutable :/
[14:02] <Dro> not bootable
[14:04] <ikonia> join #macosx
[14:04] <ikonia> oops
[14:04] <pauljw> :)
[14:04] <blackbird1> Dro, The ISO file contains only data file from your disk, there is no boot informations.
[14:04] <fujisan> sory ikonia
[14:04] <ducasse> Dro: it won't be unless you prepare it that way. read the genisoimage docs.
[14:04] <fujisan> i wasnt trolling but topic dropped
[14:04] <blackbird1> data files*
[14:12] <Dro> ducasse, how can i make it bootable
[14:12] <Dro> its a mac osx iso
[14:12] <ducasse> Dro: i told you, 'man genisoimage'.
[14:15] <ducasse> Dro: but osx might not boot at all from an iso9660 fs. ask in #macosx for further help.
[14:22] <mifritscher>  /j #qemu
[14:22] <mifritscher> sorry
[14:22] <mifritscher> ^^
[14:28] <dippn> Hey guys, anytime I use apt-get it tells me i need to run "dpkg --configure -a" - and when I do, it gets about 10 seconds into it then my computer restarts. Only Google result I could find was more related to a video driver needing to be reinstalled, I'm kinda new to linux and am not sure what to do
[14:39] <Chris___> Hello guys, got a quick question regarding Nameservers
[14:39] <dippn> What's up?
[14:40] <Chris___> So, I have setup LAMP on my ubuntu machine and installed typo3 and so on
[14:40] <Chris___> that worked. now i am trying to get my website
[14:40] <javier_> buenas tardes
[14:40] <Chris___> to reach my ubuntu machine
[14:41] <ikonia> still waiting for the name server question.....
[14:41] <Chris___> So, how can I setup my Ubuntu machine that NS1.mydomain.com and NS2.mydomain.com are on my server IP
[14:42] <ikonia> thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:42] <ikonia> you talk to who ever hosts your domains dns and ask them to update the name server record
[14:43] <Chris___> what are the correct nameservers then, so people connect to my ubuntu server?
[14:43] <ikonia> Chris___: they correct name servers ?
[14:43] <ikonia> they are the ones that hosts your domain dns
[14:44] <dippn> Chris___, you need two things, a DNS server with the NS records in the zone file for the mydomain.com. And you need the Registrar to create 'custom/child/whatever nameservers' for your domain that point the ns1 / ns2 sub domains to that DNS server
[14:44] <Chris___> So my registrar is the one with the DNS server?
[14:44] <dippn> no
[14:44] <ikonia> Chris___: I'd advise you not to try to host dns - you dont seem to know how it works, contact your ISP registrar and ask them if they have a dns service
[14:45] <dippn> well, they probably have one, but not what you're looking for
[14:45] <ikonia> Chris___: what's the domain ?
[14:45] <dippn> Do you have a virtualized dedicated server or actual dedicated server? Or are you running this off your computer or something?
[14:45] <dippn> Are you paying your web host for a server basically?
[14:45] <Chris___> I have rented an ubuntu VPS.
[14:45] <dippn> ok
[14:45] <dippn> And doy ou have the domain name registered through the same company?
[14:45] <Chris___> My hoster only has my domain, I have no server from them.
[14:45] <Chris___> Nope, two different companies
[14:45] <ikonia> Chris___: what is the domain
[14:46] <Chris___> ckaelin.ch
[14:46] <dippn> ok, talk to who you rented the server from, they might help you set up nameservers
[14:46] <dippn> on your ubuntu server
[14:46] <dippn> You also need to talk to the company you registered te domain through, they will need to create those 'custom nameservers' at the registrar, but that will only work after your DNS server is set up on the ubuntu server
[14:46] <ikonia> Chris___: 1ahosting.ch are who you need to contact
[14:46] <Chris___> I cannot set up a nameserver by my own using the terminal, in this case ?
[14:47] <ikonia> Chris___: contact them, for help
[14:47] <dippn> You can, but what ikonia said
[14:47] <ikonia> this isnt really an ubuntu problem
[14:47] <dippn> I'd personally recommend BIND if you don't already have a DNS service set up
[14:47] <ikonia> I strongly recommend you not to look at that
[14:48] <ikonia> and contact a1hosting, they hold your name server record and appear to have a dns service
[14:48] <ikonia> ask then
[14:48] <Chris___> I am sorry ikonia, I do not have 1ahosting anymore, back then I had server and domain from them. Now I transfered domain to another company and I am trying to use my website on a VPS from another company
[14:48] <ikonia> them
[14:48] <ikonia> Chris___: they hold your dns record
[14:48] <ikonia> so you HAVE to conact them
[14:48] <ikonia> I suggest you ask them to use their dns service
[14:49] <Chris___> oh
[14:50] <Chris___> How is this possible? I transferred my domain from 1ahosting to another company [highly sorry for off-topic]
[14:50] <ikonia> because you don't understand how dns works
[14:50] <ikonia> thats how it's possible
[14:50] <ikonia> the hosting is nothing to do with it
[14:51] <ikonia> the quicker you conact A1hosting and ask them / pay them to use their dns service, the quicker you'll be working
[14:52] <Chris___> I think the problem is that it hasn't been 24 hours when i changed the DNS settings
[14:52] <ikonia> I don't think thats the problem
[14:52] <ikonia> but "ok"
[14:53] <Chris___> the reason why you see 1ahosting, is because the nameserver is still pointing to ns1.1ahosting.ch and ns2.1ahosting.ch, am I right ?
[14:54] <ikonia> the SOA is 1ahosting
[14:54] <ikonia> as I've said the quicker you contact them the quicker you'll be working
[14:54] <ikonia> this isn't really an ubuntu problem
[14:55] <Chris___> What you don't understand is that I am not trying to use their DNS server, rather want to setup my own DNS server, which is the same machine as my website (sorry if I am very unclear)
[14:55] <afidegnum> i m trying to test an email functionality on my local pc where i can send email to n users  i.e   user1@hocalhost   up to n accounts. what is the best tool for that?
[14:56] <ikonia> Chris___: you should not setup your own dns server
[14:56] <ikonia> use theirs
[14:56] <ikonia> the world does not need another lame server
[14:56] <ikonia> and you can't set it up on 1 server
[14:56] <ikonia> hence why you should use their prebuilt and internet supported infrastructure
[14:56] <Chris___> okay, i get that
[14:57] <ikonia> afidegnum: you need an MTA
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:57] <ikonia> if it's your local PC, setup an MTA that relays out via your isp
[14:57] <maroun> hi guys
[14:59] <Chris___> ikonia, so basically i should use their webserver, and I should point only my webpage to my vps?
[14:59] <ikonia> no
[14:59] <Chris___> i should use their nameserver*
[14:59] <ikonia> yes
[14:59] <Chris___> now I see where i screwed up
[15:00] <Chris___> until 12th of august i am at 1ahosting, and after that I am with the new company
[15:00] <Chris___> really sorry for being annoying
[15:03] <a00> hi
[15:10] <afidegnum> ikonia: MTA ?
[15:10] <afidegnum> i dont understand
[15:10] <afidegnum> I am not sending a mail out.
[15:10] <afidegnum> just on my ubuntu PC,
[15:10] <afidegnum> to test a script i m developing
[15:12] <SchrodingersScat> afidegnum: you said, "on my local pc where i can send email to n users "
[15:12] <ikonia> afidegnum: how do you expect to send any sort of mail without an mta
[15:12] <afidegnum> ok,
[15:13] <rypervenche> afidegnum: Are you looking to send something via the command line or with a GUI application?
[15:14] <afidegnum> via python
[15:15] <aliens1111> how do I send email via command line?
[15:16] <rypervenche> afidegnum: Well, that's a very different question.
[15:16] <Viraxis> aliens1111 : using a command-line mail client. IMO Alpine is one of the more user friendly ones
[15:21] <ryffoje> Hey guys I have been having a problem lately installing ubuntu Desktop. I installed the OS onto a usb and boot from the USB then once the screen turn black it says The version that I am attempting to install and hangs there nothing else happens does anyone know how to fix this? It would be greatly appreaciated
[15:22] <Viraxis> ryffoje: Just to clarify: your are trying to install from a USB to your HDD/SSD right?
[15:22] <ryffoje> Yes I am
[15:23] <Viraxis> okay. the most common issues would be a wrong iso (architecture, driver versions) or using a wrong flashing-tool for the usb-drive
[15:23] <Viraxis> which flash tool did you use?
[15:24] <ryffoje> Oh okay I have attempted with many flashing tools. They all are not able to flash the usb for some reason. The only one that seems to work is PowerISO. The one that Ubuntu reccomends to use has a problem extracting the ISO file
[15:27] <bekks> you dont ned any other flashing tools rather tan cp or dd for current ubuntu iso images.
[15:27] <O_Govinda> When I connect my android phone (running Lollipop), I get "Error initializing camera: -53: Could not claim the USB device" and doesn't show my the files on the device, as it used to. Ubuntu 16.04. Same problem with 14.04. At one point this started happening, and now it happens all the time. How to get Uubuntu back to seeing the phone as a storage device, not a camera?
[15:27] <ryffoje> So how do I flash it?
[15:28] <Viraxis> bekks : yeah true, but most people use graphical tools, and they often screw up your drive
[15:28] <bekks> Viraxis: People kill their data with graphical tools, tools.
[15:28] <bekks> *too
[15:29] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : could it be that your android device reverted to PTP instead of MTP for data transfer?
[15:30] <Viraxis> I know that it happens with my nexus sometimes: I set it to MTP, and it reverts to charging-only
[15:30] <O_Govinda> @Viraxis: Could be. But I don't see a setting on my phone to check this or change it.
[15:30] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : You can either set this from the developer options, or via the notification that should show up when you connect your phone to a computer
[15:31] <ryffoje> Viraxis do you have any reccomended flashing tools?
[15:32] <R13ose> How do I fix this error: http://pastebin.com/Tk3evg12 ?
[15:32] <O_Govinda> Viraxis: I don't see "Developer options" (have looked hard). Under "Storage" there's "Unmount SD card" with the subtext "MTP or PHP function is active." But all of that is greyed out.
[15:33] <Viraxis> ryffoje : either search for a tutorial on how to do it via the command line (google is your friend), or use UNetbootin if you're flashing from linux, or LiLi USB wheb flashing from windows
[15:33] <Viraxis> I've used both tools, and they worked fine for me
[15:34] <ryffoje> Which ones?
[15:34] <OerHeks> R13ose, what were you doing when you got that?
[15:34] <minimec> R13ose: There is a bug on this subject. Answer 8 provides a workaround. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1531728
[15:34] <R13ose> OerHeks: sudo apt-get update
[15:34] <Viraxis> ryffoje : both graphical ones, and the commandline
[15:35] <ryffoje> Okay thanks! will try
[15:35] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : to open developer settings you need to go to "about this phone" (or something like that), scroll down, and click the version number several (5?) times.
[15:36] <Viraxis> about three clicks in it will start counting down to activating the developer options
[15:36] <OerHeks> R13ose, on mate too? see the url from minimec
[15:39] <Apteryx> Hi! I just installed KeePassX from source, and the icon doesn't show up in the launcher. The files are under /usr/local/share/icons or /usr/local/share/keepassx. Any idea?
[15:39] <ikonia> they launcher isn't aware of that location
[15:39] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure there was a KeePassX package in ubuntu
[15:40] <Apteryx> ikonia: It's awfully behind, at least for 14.04.04 (0.4.3 and they are now at 2.0.2).
[15:41] <Viraxis> Apteryx : in that case you'll need to add the entry to the laucher yourself. What DE are you using?
[15:41] <Apteryx> Viraxis: Unity. There is an entry in the launcher already, it's just that the icon is missing (I get a generic grey rectangle in its place).
[15:42] <R13ose> minimec OerHeks thanks that helped
[15:42] <O_Govinda> Viraxis: Got the developer options. (5 clicks on "Build Number"). Awesome. But I don't see any setting for MTP/PTP.
[15:43] <Apteryx> Viraxis: I could probably sort it out by copying any keepassx.png under /usr/share/pixmaps/, but I'd like to know if there is a better way to fix it (such as telling the desktop to look for icons under /usr/local/share/icons as well).
[15:43] <ikonia> Apteryx: do you really NEED the later version
[15:43] <ikonia> or do you just want it because it's later
[15:43] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : it's called "USB Connection Mode" or something like that (my phone is in Swedish). On my device it's about halfway down the list
[15:44] <Apteryx> ikonia: They fixed a critical security issue recently, in the 2.0 series. I'd rather use something up to date for something as sensitive as storing passwords.
[15:44] <ikonia> Apteryx: are you sure the fixes aren't backported
[15:44] <skinux> So, I noticed online they are distributing 16.04.1
[15:45] <ikonia> as compiling it youself doesn't really mean "secure"
[15:45] <ikonia> skinux: they are indeed
[15:45] <skinux> Which must mean it has been released
[15:45] <ikonia> it has
[15:45] <skinux> Somoene told me it wouldn't be released until next week
[15:45] <ikonia> no, the upgrade process has been held back for a week or so
[15:45] <OerHeks> !ltsupgrade
[15:46] <Apteryx> ikonia: 0.4.3 was released in 2010... Not sure they even *can* backport anything to it.
[15:46] <Viraxis> Apteryx : this is an official article on setting up application launchers with unity. Also covers icons. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[15:46] <skinux> So that means I cannot get the upgrade to work or just means they prefer I don't do it.
[15:46] <skinux> ?
[15:46] <ikonia> skinux: it means the upgrade process has not been released yet
[15:46] <skinux> Okay, so it literally won't work yet
[15:47] <O_Govinda> Viraxis: I clicked "Enable USB debugging. (Debug mode when USB is connected)." That seems to have done it. We'll see if it sticks. Many thanks!
[15:47] <ducasse> Apteryx: the keepassx version in 16.04 is 2.0.2-1
[15:47] <javier_> hola de nuevo
[15:47] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : Nice!  I now do see both "internal storage" and "SD card." But the only contents are "DCIM" and "Pictures." So I'm still in problems.
[15:48] <javier_> voy bien encaminado o me tengo que bajar otra
[15:48] <Apteryx> ducasse: I'm still on 14.04. I guess I'm due for an update.
[15:48] <Apteryx> But the dorelease script has tried at least 3 times so far without success.
[15:49] <OerHeks> javier_, english only please
[15:49] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : So it seems to be in PTP mode then... (FYI: PTP is the protocol used for camera's, MTP for general purpose media players)
[15:49] <javier_> sorry its nor for here
[15:49] <ducasse> Apteryx: also, 2.0x is a complete rewrite. a security problem in 2.0x will not apply to 0.4.
[15:49] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : Let me switch to english on my phone so I can give you the name of the menu entry. just a sec
[15:50] <Apteryx> ducasse: OK!
[15:50] <Xplict> l
[15:50] <Xplict> ok
[15:50] <O_Govinda> Javier: #ubuntu-es
[15:50] <O_Govinda> Javier, "ubuntu-es" es el cuarto que usted quiere.
[15:50] <ducasse> Apteryx: if you worry about software being too old, you should probably upgrade from 14.04, yes. the upgrade path opens next week, hopefully.
[15:50] <Xplict> how do i log back into xchat if i have already registered?
[15:51] <Xplict> i mean into freenode
[15:51] <Apteryx> ducasse: Good! I'll try the upgrade process again in a week or two then!
[15:52] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : The menu option is called "Select USB Configuration". It's about halfway down the menu; just a little bit lower
[15:52] <nedstark> better make sure your hardware is fully compatible 1st
[15:52] <kostkon> Xplict:    /ns identify nick
[15:52] <ubuntu969> hey everyone
[15:52] <nedstark> like knowing you don't need the proprietary amd driver that was dropped in 16.04
[15:53] <ubuntu969> having some problems clearing a drive on gparted it says it cannot write changes because the drive is read only how do i make the drive rightable again so i can clear it with gparted
[15:54] <O_Govinda> Viraxis: I'm looking under "Developer Options" but don't see that.
[15:55] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : That's weird. What device/ROM do you have?
[15:56] <O_Govinda> Moto G. Android 5.1. Not sure what ROM.
[15:57] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : this is a guide by Virgin Canada on how to toggle the mode via the notification menu : http://goo.gl/6x9r6q
[15:58] <Viraxis> don't know if it's persistent on your phone though
[15:59] <Viraxis> O_Govinda : according to the motorola support site the option should also be at: Settings > Storage > Menu Image > USB computer connection.
[16:02] <O_Govinda> Viraxis: Got it! Yea!!!! Many, many thanks.
[16:02] <Viraxis> O_Govinda Awesome!
[16:03] <O_Govinda> Viraxis: Indeed. And many thanks again!
[16:11] <mach20x> Tried to reinstall Ubuntu, and it seems too be stuck
[16:15] <mach20x> ubuntu CRON[10894]:  (root) CMD (    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly )
[16:16] <mach20x> I've seen that on the hour for four hours
[16:17] <Nilesh_> which package gives kdialog.h ?
[16:19] <mach20x> This all started because I had an issue with unity that had me stuck without the launcher and the menu bar at the top, nothing I did seemed to really fix that, so I tried doing a reinstall
[16:19] <kostkon> !find dialog.j
[16:20] <ioria> Nilesh_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/libkf5kdelibs4support-dev/filelist
[16:20] <Nilesh_> thanks
[16:20] <mach20x> Using and installing 16.04
[16:21] <ruisilva> Hi! Need urgent help... formated a partition and installed Ubuntu. I want to recover data from that partition. Corrupted backup :(
[16:24] <ducasse> mach20x: that's just a message that cron is running hourly jobs - that why it occurs on the hour every hour :)
[16:24] <kikko842> hi
[16:25] <ducasse> ruisilva: if you've overwritten it then the data is gone. you can try to recover some of it with photorec/testdisk, but...
[16:26] <mach20x> That makes sense, but the dialog box has said nothing else over the past 5 hours now, during the reinstall, it doesn't appear to be doing anything
[16:26] <SchrodingersScat> !recover | ruisilva, but like ducasse says, there's only so much you can do.
[16:27] <kikko842> who is developer packet pv?
[16:28] <OerHeks> kikko842, you can find that on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pv
[16:28] <ruisilva> Is not possible to recover a specific directory at a specific partition?
[16:29] <ducasse> ruisilva: not if it has been overwritten.
[16:30] <ducasse> ruisilva: data from a directory can be spread all over the disk, so you might be able to recover some that is not overwritten yet.
[16:31] <ruisilva> I had a lot of data... and just installed Ubuntu. I believe that most of my lost data is somewhere in the partition.
[16:32] <kikko842> OerHeks: thnaks
[16:32] <kikko842> OerHeks: thanks
[16:32] <ducasse> ruisilva: then try, but you will not recover the data you have now written over.
[16:33] <ruisilva> ducasse: yes i understand that
[16:34] <mach20x> why would a reinstall stall like this and how long should I wait?
[16:35] <ruisilva> ducasse: i've seen a lot of websites and forums about it and didn't understand how to make the recovery
[16:35] <ducasse> !recover | ruisilva
[16:35] <skinux> Is there any way to get the bottom-horizontal unity panel on 14.04.1 without having to upgrade to 16.04?
[16:36] <OerHeks> skinux, no. hardcoded.
[16:37] <ducasse> ruisilva: if you don't understand how to proceed and the data is important, take it to a professional recovery service.
[16:40] <rypervenche> ruisilva: You can probably get the partition back with testdisk, but you need to know how to use it.
[16:40] <rypervenche> ruisilva: Oh, but you installed Ubuntu on it. Yeah, you will have lost some data. testdisk and photorec will be your saviors here.
[16:43] <OerHeks> for photorec you would need a spare hdd/partition to save the found files on
[16:43] <OerHeks> and then sort and rename, ugh
[16:45] <ducasse> mach20x: i would simply restart the machine and try again.
[16:46] <danielmatos> Hi
[16:47] <danielmatos> Can i contact to IRC Council?
[16:48] <OerHeks> danilonc, sure, via email https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil
[16:49] <ruisilva> rypervenche, But, there is a way of recover files with the same directory structure and names? Just as if we were listing an ordinary directory...
[16:50] <ducasse> ruisilva: no.
[16:50] <OerHeks> ruisilva, never happened to me, ext3/4 writes files everywhere, not logical, and names can be wiped too, part from extention
[16:51] <danielmatos> Hi lads ;). Can somebody give me an hand please?
[16:51] <ducasse> ruisilva: you will most likely get only some of the files, random names without organization.
[16:52] <OerHeks> photorec makes folders with 500 found files, which you need to sort and rename yourself.
[16:52] <ruisilva> so, this is an almost hopeless situation, right?
[16:52] <ducasse> ruisilva: as i said, send it to professionals if the data is important.
[16:53] <ruisilva> ducasse, yes, i'm browsing and looking for professionals
[16:54] <Guest13327> how do you send mail annyomously and encrypted in ubuntu?
[16:55] <danielmatos> @Guest13327 you can use protonmail
[16:55] <danielmatos> @alien2112 you can use protonmail
[16:55] <ducasse> ruisilva: probably your best option at this point. find someone with a good reputation.
[16:56] <danielmatos> alien2112: protonmail xd
[16:56] <ikonia> why would you send anonymous encytped mail
[16:56] <ikonia> as if they don't know who it's from, how can they get the key
[16:57] <alien2112> thanks
[16:57] <danielmatos> alien2112:no prob
[16:57] <danielmatos> ;)
[16:59] <ruisilva> thank you guys!
[17:00] <ducasse> ruisilva: good luck - hope you get some of the data :)
[17:01] <hesiodos> what's up with ruisilva
[17:01] <hesiodos> ?
[17:01] <ikonia> nothing is up with him
[17:01] <hesiodos> i missed it!
[17:02] <hesiodos> i mean the subjext
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[17:03] <hesiodos> hi
[17:03] <hesiodos> ?
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[17:03] <ruisilva> hesiodos, i lost some data and was looking for help
[17:03] <ikonia> it will pass in a few minutes, just hold on and ignore the noise please.
[17:03] <hesiodos> ok
[17:04] <hesiodos> i thought it might be of interest.
[17:04] <hesiodos> that's all there is.
[17:05] <hesiodos> it sound like it anyway
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[17:17] <ikonia> sorry about the noise to the channel, just some idiot kids messing around
[17:18] <ducasse> damn skiddies.
[17:18] <ikonia> not even that
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[17:29] <danielboston26> does anyone know if ubuntu/debian will work on the new hp spectre
[17:31] <OerHeks> danielboston26, with such minimal info, nobody can tell for sure. what hp spectre?
[17:31] <danielboston26> its the brand new one it doesn't have a model number as i can tell
[17:32] <danielboston26> "worlds thinnest laptop"
[17:32] <danielboston26> its the macbook compeditor
[17:32] <OerHeks> come back when you have more details then.
[17:32] <danielboston26> i can't seem to find a model number for it was just wondering if anyone else here is using one
[17:34] <danielboston26> i think its just called the spectre
[17:35] <danielboston26> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp/hp-spectre/pcmcat748302046297.c?id=pcmcat748302046297
[17:36] <danielboston26> 13-v011d is the model number
[17:38] <danielboston26> at least thats the model number bestbuy has listed
[17:39] <OerHeks> skylake, with Intel® HD Graphics 530. i think it will work.
[17:40] <pnwise> HP made terrible consumer products, most laptops I have see overheat very easily
[17:40] <pnwise> ubuntu should work fine
[17:40] <danielboston26> this laptop is nice i like it
[17:40] <pnwise> best way to test is to make bootatble usb and go test it on the  store
[17:40] <danielboston26> battery life is horrible but just keep it plugged in and its fine
[17:40] <OerHeks> personally i think Hp is fine, but experience may vary
[17:41] <danielboston26> i would never buy a hp computer or reccomend one till now
[17:41] <danielboston26> this is very nice
[17:41] <danielboston26> i think breaking up the company worked for them
[17:41] <pnwise> I have aonly terrible experience with HP. There was that series laptops that technicians didn't want to even open for cleaning because they are so crappy they stop working after that
[17:42] <pnwise> can't remember the name
[17:42] <danielboston26> pnwise i know what your talking about
[17:42] <danielboston26> this pc is very different
[17:43] <danielboston26> its my main machine besides my gaming pc
[17:43] <danielboston26> i havn't had one issue with it other then battery life
[17:43] <danielboston26> 9 hours my ass more then 2
[17:43] <pnwise> If you want quality go buy XPS, thinpad, asus. Heck even macs are better
[17:43] <pnwise> That's my opinion
[17:43] <nedstark> i avoid all consumer-grade laptops and desktops
[17:44] <danielboston26> i agree but i have had zero problems
[17:44] <danielboston26> so in my experince it works for me
[17:45] <danielboston26> nedstark i usually do as well but this computer got really good reviews so decided to give it a try
[17:45] <BenderRodriguez> nedstark: and what constitutes a "non-customer grade" laptop?
[17:45] <nedstark> Dell XPS is business grade