[09:50] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: I was thinking "toys! wonderful.. shiny.. new toys!!!" lol
[09:50] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, so either i go for all that gvfs-fuse stuff or i see if usbmount will do
[09:50] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: good point
[09:51] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, can you give a recommendation on that?
[09:51] <somsip> Benkinooby: ah - does it? I learn something everyday
[09:52] <Benkinooby> somsip, that's how i understood it :P
[09:52] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: I'm afraid I can't, I've always installed from the desktop cd and accepted whatever was installed therein. I build my systems from known Linux-friendly parts so I rarely have problems
[09:52] <somsip> Benkinooby: and that's bloaty is it? I shall investigate...
[09:53] <Benkinooby> :D
[09:53] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i did it like you did too... for some time... but then i started to strip things down more and more
[09:53] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, so i thought for now it might be better to go min->more than much->less
[09:54] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: is there a reason you went with a minimal install? old hardware? limited hardware? curiosity ?
[09:54] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: Ah, yeah and you learn more that way too
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> ardchoille  show me how you do that, please (pastebin or so)
[09:54] <ardchoille> building your own systems is great and always yields a trouble-free system. But, you don't learn as much and end up being less help to others
[09:55] <somsip> Benkinooby: Ah. I thought I'd avoid gnome components completely. I guess this is why I'm in fuse group then
[09:55] <thepreacher> why do some fonts display as boxes in ubuntu
[09:55] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, lenovo ideapad s12 (the slower atom model) - i could go with unity, or xfce or something...
[09:55] <ThinkT510> thepreacher: maybe you need the right font installed to display the characters
[09:55] <Benkinooby> somsip, you'll end up with gnome stuff for sure.. sooner or later... they make good stuff too :D
[09:56] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1259682/
[09:56] <somsip> Benkinooby: looks like gvfs and gnome-keyring. Wellll, like I say. i'm stable and it's not breaking anything <shrugs>. For now, anyway
[09:57] <cyphase> umm, where did os.urandom go in the last python2.7 update?
[09:57] <thepreacher> ThinkT510: I have installed the right font I think. Its the conkysymbols font. Other similar fonts like webdings and windings all display fine
[09:57] <ThinkT510> thepreacher: in that case i have no idea
[09:58] <ardchoille> MonkeyDust: the only drawback with that user check is that you need to keep in mind the content of the script so as to not execute something as root that isn't needed or dangerous
[09:58] <thepreacher> ThinkT510: thanks anyway
[09:58] <simplew> im running the quantzal live cd and when i click to install and i set the mount points, i click to continue and then i get that it cant use the swap partition, why is this happening???
[09:59] <somsip> simplew: 12.10 is not yet supported here. Try #ubuntu+1
[10:07] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille aptitude install pcmanfm -> +30 packages, afterwards aptitude purge pcman fm -> -9 packages.... no i uninstalled all 30 packages manually -.- ... strankge dependency managing
[10:07] <Benkinooby> no->now
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Benkinooby  use apt-get, rather than aptitude
[10:08] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: apt-get purge takes care of that when uninstalling via apt-get
[10:08] <ardchoille> aptitude may have an option for that, idk
[10:09] <dr_willis> best to avoid aptitude these days. on ubuntu
[10:09] <Benkinooby> MonkeyDust, ardchoille i thought aptitude would be smarter with dependencies than apt-get
[10:09] <Benkinooby> might be it's jsut an option i missed
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Benkinooby  there's a !aptitude factoid
[10:09] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | Benkinooby
[10:09] <ardchoille> dr_willis: sounds like good advice
[10:10] <dr_willis> yep. i never really used it to begin with. but i do recall a lot of argueing over which is better... these days - use apt-get
[10:10] <ardchoille> ikonia: Thank you for taking care of us :)
[10:10] <Cong> aptitude has horrible searching. if I wanted just the ri package, a lot of packages have ri in them.
[10:11] <ikonia> ha
[10:11] <jrib> Cong: aptitude has the best searching...
[10:11] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, ok, i'll go with apt-get then
[10:11] <Cong> jrib, better than synaptic?
[10:12] <XRS1> apt-get is great. windows friend saw me install firefox through apt-get and i explained the repositories thing and he was blown away by how ingenous the system is
[10:12] <dr_willis> the whole apt system is getting so big in the # of packages its getting haed to discover tools that may do what you need from so many simialer tools
[10:12] <soman> Hi all. Why is flash in Ubuntu 12.04 works slower than in Windows? It gets me some problems.  Opera 12.01. Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[10:12] <dr_willis> soman:  bascially because adobe dosent care about linux
[10:12] <ThinkT510> soman: complain to adobe
[10:12] <XRS1> soman; what video drivers are you using?
[10:13] <soman> Is anywhere any replacement?
[10:13] <soman> XRS1: nVidia. Downloaded and installed from official website
[10:13] <XRS1> there are alternatives
[10:13] <ThinkT510> soman: gnash and lightsparks are alternatives (don't get your hopes up)
[10:13] <dr_willis> soman:  i use flash downloader and replacer extensions to watch flash videos in vlc
[10:14] <dr_willis> as for flash games... i dont play them
[10:14] <Benkinooby> !groups
[10:14] <XRS1> thats odd because i have an 11 year old laptop with 1st gen Radeon and it has no problems with flash
[10:14] <chronofusion1980> so i was rocking 2 instances of handbrake ripping two dvd's at the same time at around 1 hour total for both.  put in a 3rd dvd burner drive, now takes two hours for 3...wth?
[10:14] <Guest3851> !group | Benkinooby
[10:14] <XRS1> unless you are trying to watch high res 1080
[10:15] <dr_willis> chronofusion1980:  sata or ide?
[10:15] <Benkinooby> Guest3851, nope :(
[10:15] <Guest3851> guess not
[10:15] <soman> I will try gnash. Thanks guys
[10:15] <chronofusion1980> 3.2ghz 6 core amd cpu, 8 gig 1600mhz ram, 1k psu, (   all drives in system are sata II gen)
[10:15] <ardchoille> dr_willis: flash is going bye bye anyway
[10:15] <jrib> Cong: yes, better than synaptic :)  http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html
[10:16] <gry> Benkinooby, hi what groups are you trying to use? :)
[10:16] <ThinkT510> ardchoille: couldn't speed it up could you?
[10:16] <dr_willis> ardchoille:  it allready has left the building here...
[10:16] <chronofusion1980> is there a magic number limit of two drives ripping two dvd's at once?  or am i missing some tweak to make 3 drives rip at the speed i was doing.  I used the exact same settings in handbrake
[10:16] <ardchoille> ThinkT510: speed what up?
[10:16] <ThinkT510> ardchoille: the death of flash
[10:16] <ardchoille> ThinkT510: lol, I wish
[10:16] <codephobic> hi, I'm having some problems with network browsing on my lan. Everything used to work perfectly a week ago, but out of the blue I can no longer see my NAS device nor my Windows 7 computer in Network Browsing (in Ubuntu), I can still access the shares I set up (to use files served from the Windows and NAS devices) but I cannot configure folders/files to share from my Ubuntu
[10:17] <jrib> chronofusion1980: how many cores do you have?  Doesn't handbrake do some encoding while it rips?
[10:17] <gry> codemaniac, hi, is smbd running ?
[10:17] <chronofusion1980> already told you.  6 core 3.2ghz amd cpu...Phenom Ii x6 to be exact
[10:17] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:17] <Benkinooby> gry i use a minimal install and need some adaption in order to automount my pendrives... i don't know which group is responsible for that so i'm looking for descriptions of the ubuntu user groups
[10:17] <codephobic> gry, hi yes I have samba running
[10:17] <chronofusion1980> and yes.it does...but either way..when i was ripping on two dvd's at same time using two instances of handbrake...for the same length of time discs ( dbz season 3 discs that i own)  it shouldn't matter
[10:18] <gry> codephobic, i see, does restarting smbd help? what is nas in your question?
[10:18] <caydeesoft> hey
[10:18] <tking> hello guys, please is there any terminal client apart from Remmina? When i connect to my windows vps with reminna it kicks me out a lot, but from windows i dont get kicked. SO please any alternative for Remmina Remote Destop Clinet??
[10:18] <gry> caydeesoft, hi
[10:18] <Cong> jrib, what is used to search for fixed names or complete package name?
[10:19] <jrib> Cong: aptitude search '~nNAME'
[10:19] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, can you tell me thegroups of your "normal"  user please?
[10:19] <jrib> !vnc > tking
[10:19] <gry> Benkinooby, is a minimal install == server install or do you mean something else? do you use a gui?
[10:19] <jrib> tking: there are plenty of rdp clients in the repositories
[10:19] <codephobic> I've configured both Windows 7 and Ubuntu to join "MyNET" as their workgroup, rebooted both machines and the existing shared folders from Windows 7 are working fine but I still can't get network browsing to work
[10:19] <Cong> jrib, didn't work.
[10:19] <Azzle-Dazzle> how can I stop applications from opening when connecting usb drive ?
[10:19] <codephobic> gry, the NAS is a ReadyNAS duo - Netgear.
[10:19] <jrib> Cong: be more specific
[10:20] <gry> Benkinooby, so it is a cli only install ? ubuntu-server or no ?
[10:20] <Benkinooby> gry, minimal install for personal laptop + xdm + fluxbox .... i rather start from minimal and add up than going with a full install and then strip down
[10:20] <gry> aaah
[10:20] <Cong> jrib, just the letters "ri".
[10:20] <chronofusion1980> I was really hoping to take full advantage of a 3rd dvd burner to rip my entire collection faster..( besides the anime series's i have...at least 300 other movies to go)
[10:20] <codephobic> gry, the NAS folders and drives are also saved as fstab shares (like the Windows 7 ones) and they're perfectly fine too. It's just that neither NAS nor Windows 7 is showing up in "Browse Network"
[10:20] <jrib> chronofusion1980: aptitude search '~nri'   will return only packages with "ri" in their names.  What did you want it to do?
[10:20] <gry> my user has 'uid=1001(user) gid=1001(user) groups=1001(user),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),105(lpadmin),112(netdev),119(admin),122(sambashare),133(vboxusers),134(powerdev),139(scanner),1002(samba),1003(sbox)' but do mind this is not clean install and some of them may be redundant --- Benkinooby
[10:21] <chronofusion1980> and honestly only handbrake out of all the rippers i tried does the best job and without me having to use another ripping program just to decrypt it and handbrake to shrink it..handbrake does both all in one step
[10:21] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: it's been a while since I've messed with groups, what command should I use for your inquiry?
[10:21] <XRS1> handbrake is good stuff
[10:21] <chronofusion1980> and jrib i'm confused...why would i need to do a " aptitude search?
[10:21] <Benkinooby> gry, thank you... think i'll add my user  to admin and fuse too
[10:21] <jrib> Cong: aptitude search '~nri'   will return only packages with "ri" in their names.  What did you want it to do?
[10:21] <jrib> chronofusion1980: because your name starts with 'c' and it's early :) sorry.
[10:22] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, groups
[10:22] <chronofusion1980> lol  :P
[10:22] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: ardchoille adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[10:22] <chronofusion1980> late for me..i should be in bed..i work the late evening shift in 7 hours
[10:22] <chronofusion1980> so any ideas?
[10:22] <gry> codephobic, does your install use a gui ? anything useful in /var/log/samba/ ?
[10:22] <jrib> chronofusion1980: do try to keep your question to one line though because otherwise most people will have no context for what you are saying
[10:22] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, your on a standard install right?
[10:23] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, *you're
[10:23] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: yes, 12.04
[10:23] <ardchoille> installed from desktop cd
[10:23] <codephobic> gry, I'm running Unity on Ubuntu if that's what you mean by using a gui?
[10:23] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, automounting usb-drives works?
[10:23] <codephobic> I'll check the log now.
[10:23] <Cong> jrib, search from within the program.,and get only the packages that match ri completely.
[10:23] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: yes, and I love that
[10:23] <jrib> chronofusion1980: i have no idea why the behavior described is happening, but you might try seeing if it also happens with other programs (try some that just rip and don't encode; and also try some that are similar to handbrake), just to get some more info about what the problem might be
[10:23] <somsip> Benkinooby: you have looked at usbmount?
[10:24] <gry> codemaniac, yes :) could you check the logs dir i mentioned please?
[10:24] <Cong> jrib, aptitude has a curses mode.
[10:24] <chronofusion1980> okedoke.  i have more research to do after work today.. peaces
[10:24] <jrib> Cong: you can use regex in the search.  You would never want to search for exactly the package "ri" though because, well obviously there's only one package with the name exactly "ri".  But using regex: aptitude search '~n^ri$'.  I never cared for aptitude's curses interface
[10:25] <Benkinooby> somsip, yes... i installed it but it does not work ... thunar crashes my trying to access the pen drive :P
[10:25] <somsip> Benkinooby: does dmesg/syslog show that the drive is mounting ok?
[10:26] <Benkinooby> somsip, yes... it gets recognized... even without usbmount
[10:27] <Benkinooby> somsip, if i attach the pendirve i get a small window saying "not authrozed" - when usbmount is uninstalled
[10:27] <somsip> Benkinooby: Ah - I had this...now how did I fix it...
[10:28] <Cong> jrib, regexes function in curses mode too.
[10:28] <somsip> Benkinooby: sorry - if usbmount is installed, does it authorise you and mount it at one of the mountpoints?
[10:28] <jrib> Cong: k
[10:28] <Benkinooby> somsip, i suspect i have to be added to fuse or admin group or so... although i wonder how standardinstalls like the one of ardchoille does it without being in these groups
[10:28] <codephobic> gry, ok, I figured it out - my fault entirely. I'd installed Firestarter and then closed it, figuring that it was switched off... but it was blocking new local outbound/inbound connections for some reason.
[10:28] <gry> ok :)
[10:29] <codephobic> I need to read the help for firestarter and figure out how to properly configure it.
[10:29] <codephobic> thanks for your help gry :)
[10:29] <somsip> Benkinooby: I would imagine gnome looks after that
[10:29] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: I do know that I have a .gvfs folder in my home dir, perhaps gvfs/fuse is being used here?
[10:29] <Benkinooby> somsip, guess you're right
[10:29] <gry> it is ardchoille
[10:30] <somsip> Benkinooby: if you're using thunar, osn't there a thunar-volman. Does that do anything useful for you?
[10:30] <digitroid> Hello
[10:30] <gry> hi
[10:30] <sky_> hi
[10:30] <ardchoille> somsip Benkinooby yeah, gnome-session perhaps
[10:30] <somsip> Benkinooby: ardchoille and I guess you're wanting to avoid gvfs and dependencies...?
[10:30] <Benkinooby> somsip, it's already installed
[10:30] <Benkinooby> somsip, it's already installed - thunar-volman
[10:30] <ardchoille> somsip: no, just adding info I thought might help Benkinooby. My system is perfect here
[10:31] <gry> what is the problem again, Benkinooby?
[10:31] <somsip> ardchoille: I understand - just replying to both of you
[10:31] <simplew> in /etc/fstab of the isntalled quantzal i see this: overlayfs / overlayfs rw 0 0
[10:31] <simplew> why is that line in fstab for / ?
[10:31] <somsip> Benkinooby: ok - I have no expereince of thunar, just am aware of it. So I don't think I'm much help
[10:31] <ThinkT510> simplew: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 until release
[10:32] <caydeesoft> how do u remove the shutdown bug in ubuntu 12.04
[10:32] <gry> which one?
[10:32] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, gnome-session is not installed at my system - would get me +300 packages ... although i'm not an indealist... i want comfprt too :D
[10:32] <Benkinooby> comfort
[10:33] <Benkinooby> gry, get a nice and slim automount for normal user
[10:33] <Benkinooby> somsip, my problem sould not be filemanager related...
[10:33] <caydeesoft> when i try shutdown the system it brings out a black screen
[10:34] <somsip> Benkinooby: maybe it is back to permissions/groups again, but I am guessing I admit. IME setting up a file manager to automount does pull in dependencies and make changes that solve the issue. And I undertsand you're trying to minimise dependencies
[10:35] <Benkinooby> somsip, i'm kicking thunar and going for pcman - just to see what it does to my groups
[10:35] <somsip> caydeesoft: what video card do you have - nvidia?
[10:36] <gry> caydeesoft, do you see any text on the black screen? or is it entirely blank?
[10:36] <somsip> Benkinooby: I did see that 'not authorized' popup before and did something to fix it manually. Maybe that was adding myself to fuse group...
[10:37] <gry> caydeesoft, can you pastebin /etc/default/grub please?
[10:37] <sordina> Hey guys!
[10:37] <gry> hi
[10:37] <sordina> I've got an upstart script that's not appearing in initctl list.
[10:38] <sordina> Is there something I should check to figure out why this is not appearing?
[10:38] <sordina> (btw, edgy)
[10:38] <gry> edgy is 12.10 or ?
[10:38] <sordina> haha 6.10
[10:38] <Benkinooby> somsip, gry ardchoille i added myself to fuse group - brb
[10:39] <Cong> 12.10 is quantal
[10:39] <Cong> quetzal
[10:39] <gry> I'm afraid that's not supported any longer sordina (/topic)
[10:39] <sordina> I know that :P
[10:39] <sordina> That's why I'm asking in irc rather than going to coporate support.
[10:39] <sordina> Anyway, if know one knows I'll keep digging.
[10:40] <gry> that said folk may suggest you some solutions if you stick here for more than twenty minutes or so as it's a busy channel but things may have changed and not everybody here would be familiar with how things were back then
[10:40] <sordina> Thanks gry I'll stick around for a while.
[10:40] <ikonia> sordina: 6.10 didn't use upstart
[10:40] <ikonia> sordina: wasn't 6.10 still on sysv init
[10:41] <sordina> ikonia: Actually, that would be much more likely.
[10:41] <ikonia> upstart didn't come in until 9.04/9.10 somewhere around there
[10:41] <ThinkT510> sordina: edgy is long dead, unsupported
[10:42] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille gry added myself to fuse group, reinstalled thunar... usbstick gest recognize but i'm not authrozed
[10:42] <Benkinooby> authorized
[10:43] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: plugdev group?
[10:44] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i'm in that group already
[10:44] <ardchoille> ok
[10:44] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: your issue is mind-boggling
[10:45] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: install a full system then work backwards?
[10:45]  * ardchoille ducks
[10:45] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille thunar and pcmanfs say not authorized... i'm in fuse group and plugdev - maybe try admin group?
[10:45] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i might have to come back to that
[10:45] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, last resort
[10:45] <ardchoille> Benkinooby: adm group
[10:46] <ardchoille> yeah
[10:46] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, i'm in that group
[10:46] <ardchoille> I'm not in admin group
[10:46] <Benkinooby> ardchoille, but somsip is
[10:46] <ardchoille> ah
[10:46] <ThinkT510> it used to be admin group but now its sudo group
[10:47] <ardchoille> ThinkT510: I was just thinking about that
[10:47] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, sudo group is standard
[10:47] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, i'm in it
[10:48] <Benkinooby> somsip, admin group does not exist
[10:48] <fidel> hi - i installed 12.04 now twice on an lenovo think centre 71e - install works flawless without  issues - but after rebooting i get: error 1962: no operating system found. press any key to repeat boot process. I am guessing that is related with some morem odern bios - or has anyone another idea?
[10:49] <gry> Benkinooby, is mounting a windows share what you're trying to do? how you trying to do that? what error message?
[10:50] <Benkinooby> gry, usbstick
[10:50] <somsip> Benkinooby: sorry - family time.I can't help for a while
[10:50] <Benkinooby> somsip, np - thank you for your effort, appreciate it
[10:52] <gry> Benkinooby, are you able to mount it manually?
[10:52] <Benkinooby> gry w/o sudo?
[10:52] <gry> nod
[10:53] <Benkinooby> gry, manual sudo mount works
[10:53] <gry> does it work without sudo?
[10:54] <Benkinooby> gry, without sudo i does not work
[10:54] <gry> Benkinooby, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB User PrivilegesIf your usb device doesn't appear on your desktop, you should check that your user has the correct privileges.  You should have the "Access external storage devices automatically" option checked.
[10:54] <gry> Does this help?
[10:55] <Benkinooby> gry i don't have all that gnome stuff on my system .... yet
[10:55] <gry> what DE are you using?
[10:55] <Benkinooby> gry fluxbox
[10:57] <gry> Benkinooby, ok, this is 'plugdev' user group
[11:00] <edgy> Hi, I just want to understand where the recovery kernel argument in grub.cfg coming from or documented?
[11:00] <gry> Benkinooby, does adding it for yourself help?
[11:01] <Benkinooby> gry, i'm already in the plugdev group... now i'm reading more frum stuff
[11:01] <Benkinooby> *forum
[11:01] <kannan> hi
[11:01] <ThinkT510> Benkinooby: have you logged out and in again since you changed your groups?
[11:02] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, yes
[11:02] <crazydip> has anyone installed LVM on an existing system? was it successful? any tips?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> !lvm | crazydip
[11:04] <gry> Benkinooby, and plugdev did not help to mount?
[11:04] <Benkinooby> gry when attaching the pendirve it gets recongized and i even see it in my file managers ... i am just not allowed to open it
[11:05] <gry> edgy, is it in 'info -f grub'?
[11:06] <kannan> can i get any driver software for my Samsung Scx printer to install in Ubuntu12.04
[11:06] <crazydip> ThinkT510: thanks for the info, but i'm talking about LVM on an existing system - not a fresh install - very little info via google (few wiki's, but little opinions)
[11:07] <sordina> n/m guys broken symlinks.
[11:07] <sordina> Ah the fun of working with years old systems.
[11:07] <sordina> Thanks for your help.
[11:07] <crazydip> ThinkT510: I know it's theoretically possible, just like it's possible to dist-upgrade debian -> ubuntu (which I have successfully done 5 years ago) - but it does not mean it's easy and you can just follow a wiki :)
[11:08] <ThinkT510> crazydip: unfortunately i've never used lvm so i can't help you
[11:08] <crazydip> ThinkT510: aye, thanks!
[11:09] <gry> sordina, no worries, we'll all be happy if you make your way to updating at a point -- i think your version has no updates at all
[11:09] <sordina> Yes. I'm pressuring people at my work to update to the latest LTS for the love of god.
[11:10] <sordina> Unfortunately it's difficult to get people out of the 'if it ain't broke' mindset if I keep fixing things when they break...
[11:11] <edgy> gry: not sure if you understand my question, nothing in info -f grub is related
[11:11] <gry> I'm sure they won't want to restore backups and patch kernel/whatever manually everywhere when it's exploited, sordina :) good luck there
[11:11] <gry> edgy, ok
[11:11] <edgy> gry: grub.cfg contains linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-16-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg00-lv_root ro recovery ... What's recovery here referes to
[11:12] <sordina> Ah thankfully it's not a public facing server...
[11:12] <crazydip> sordina: make a point that the longer they wait, the worse it will be to migrate - which also means more expensive and risky - and without upgrading they are risking damage & security (just a thought)
[11:12] <edgy> gry: is my question clearer now?
[11:12] <yossarianuk> hi - I have noticed on several Ubuntu 12.04 servers that /var/cache/apt was taking up over 40GB.
[11:12] <sordina> will do crazydip
[11:12] <gry> edgy, i see, thank you, i am reading
[11:12] <yossarianuk> on inspection I can see lots of files called
[11:12] <sordina> Cya guys
[11:12] <simplew> im running live cd and when i run apt-get install synaptic it says the package does not exist, how can this be?
[11:13] <Scall> Are all external boxes for hard disks (like this: http://nilox.com/scheda/nilox/DH0003ER-SB.htm) compatible with Ubuntu/Linux? Are there any compatibility issues? Thanks in advance.
[11:13] <edgy> yossarianuk: you need to run apt-get clean
[11:13] <yossarianuk> # /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.zGFIkA
[11:13] <fidel> simplew: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME
[11:13] <yossarianuk> # /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.random
[11:13] <fidel> will tell you the available version you might have & your distri can offer
[11:14] <simplew> fidel, what?
[11:14] <fidel> !info synaptic
[11:14] <yossarianuk> i.e - there are over 800 /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.random files each 36M
[11:14] <yossarianuk> apt-get clean doesn't get rid of them
[11:14] <yossarianuk> - what are they
[11:14] <simplew> can anyone explain me why is not possible to isntall synaptic when running live cd?
[11:14] <yossarianuk> - how to get rid of them?
[11:15] <fidel> simplew: 2 minutes ago you told us its not available ;)
[11:15] <fidel> simplew: is the availabilty your issue - or the fact that you cant install during your live-cd session?
[11:16] <simplew> fidel, you talk like i was a debian user and would have to know what you mean by those short words
[11:16] <yossarianuk> simplew: its possibloe that the app your looking for isn't in the  repos used by the default source.list
[11:16] <simplew> yossarianuk, so how can i do to have synaptic and apt-file installed?
[11:16] <fidel> simplew: well i am just pointing out that you make unclear statements ;)
[11:16] <crazydip> omg someone created a solarized theme for xchat - i love you internet!
[11:17] <fidel> trying to push it 1 step further - but ok - stopping then.
[11:17] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille gry VICTORY!!! summary: get gdm as display manager, kick xdm and you're set
[11:17] <yossarianuk> what I would do is go to http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:17] <ThinkT510> !yay | Benkinooby
[11:17] <yossarianuk> -replace sources.list with a full one - i.e main, restricted, universe, multiverse
[11:18] <yossarianuk> then apt-get update & apt-get install [package]
[11:18] <Benkinooby> somsip, ardchoille gry i'm going to remove my user nowfrom all the groups i added it to - but i think i'll can get down to standard  ( ardchoille ) group settings ThinkT510
[11:18] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, somsip ardchoille gry thank you :)
[11:19] <yossarianuk> so does anyone know why I have literally hundreds /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.randomletters that is raping my disk spaxce
[11:19] <yossarianuk> space
[11:20] <yossarianuk> its happening on mutiple servers all ubuntu 12.04
[11:20] <yossarianuk> apt-get clean - doesn't help
[11:20] <ThinkT510> yossarianuk: looks like source packages
[11:20] <yossarianuk> presently 40GB  worth...
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> yossarianuk  apt-get autoremove, maybe
[11:21] <yossarianuk> ThinkT510 - so if I remove the deb-src files in sources.list that wil stop it?
[11:21] <ThinkT510> yossarianuk: i'd do what MonkeyDust suggests
[11:22] <yossarianuk>  apt-get autoremove doesn't remove them...
[11:22] <yossarianuk> i.e
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 35M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.YdJRXI
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 36M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.YgOeLt
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 35M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.yLSNj5
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 36M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.Z1BQs0
[11:22] <FloodBot1> yossarianuk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <yossarianuk> 36M     /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin.ZCU29L
[11:22] <ThinkT510> yossarianuk: use a pastebin
[11:22] <gry> Benkinooby, that's odd.. not much we helped other than by listening carefully but congratulations :)
[11:23] <yossarianuk> (over 800 of the buggers)
[11:23] <yossarianuk> (sorry about the flood..)
[11:24] <Benkinooby> gry, it's surprising that a display manager can mess up permissions that bad... i think ubuntu is one of the more difficult disotr if you don't go the "standard" way - because the suddenly all those helpful services that make life nice turn out cause weired interferences if you don't fully understand the whole system
[11:25] <sandb____> hi folks... i'm trying to setup SSH to tunnel through one machine to another... my understanding is that i need to have passwordless ssh setup on the target machine (for the account of the middle man). I used ssh-keygen to generate a keypair on the middle machine and added the .pub to the authorized hosts on the target. SSH to the target gets disconnected though.
[11:25] <sandb____> (I can ssh using username/password but not username/keyfile)
[11:25] <sandb____> from Googling it looks possible it's some kind of open-ssl version/format issue
[11:26] <Cong> the system is simple, user (that's you), group (that's you), others (that's not you).
[11:27] <yossarianuk> Also I have loads of /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.random   i.e  36M     /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.YkSbjy  35M     /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.z1K9OY
[11:27] <yossarianuk> why is this happening - how to sto[p it ?
[11:27] <Cong> The users should get an option to choose the group name at installation.
[11:27] <yossarianuk> (it didn;t happen on older ubuntu server versions)
[11:28] <Cong> yossarianuk, it's cache, and you're free to delete it.
[11:30] <melvincv> hi all. I'd like to give a suggestion to the GNOME3 team. How to go about it?
[11:31] <Cong> gnome.org
[11:31] <melvincv> don't they have a contact email?
[11:32] <melvincv> I searched, but could not find the right contact
[11:32] <solofight> eople when i want to enable a module using a2enmod it says command not found ! ! am using ubuntu 12
[11:32] <solofight> people*
[11:32] <Cong> what's your email address? I'll tell 'em to contact you, okay.
[11:32] <melvincv> maybe a mailing list...
[11:34] <melvincv> Cong, got it?
[11:35] <solofight> how to get back all the default permissions for system files in my machine ?
[11:35] <solofight> say i have messes up everything
[11:35] <solofight> is there a reset button or something
[11:35] <gry> no
[11:35] <Cong> melvincv, interested in design? https://live.gnome.org/Design/Contribute
[11:36] <ThinkT510> solofight: you'd need to reinstall if you've really messed up permissions for the whole system
[11:36] <solofight> ThinkT510,  when i want to enable a module using a2enmod it says command not found ! ! am using ubuntu 12
[11:36] <melvincv> GNOME has more than enough design ;)
[11:36] <solofight> melvincv, @ me ?
[11:37] <yossarianuk> Cong: thanks - how can I prevent it building up (not seen it before - been using Ubuntu for years...)
[11:37] <melvincv> solofight, pm you?
[11:37] <solofight> melvincv, yes please
[11:37] <tryy3> how can i check how much memory (hard drive) space i got left?
[11:38] <k1l_> tryy3: "df -h"
[11:38] <brontosaurusrex> tryy3, df -h < for disk space
[11:38] <rp2> or df -H
[11:38] <tryy3> ok thans
[11:38] <tryy3> thanks*
[11:40] <tryy3> should i just look at the top one? /dev/loop0 .... ?
[11:40] <k1l_> tryy3: take a look at the last coloumn, that is the mount point
[11:40] <Cong> yossarianuk, seems like they are coming from apt. investigate that
[11:41] <notze> where can i see when openstack folsom will be in the ubuntu repository
[11:41] <tryy3> k1l_ where it says / at the end?
[11:41] <melvincv> My issue is that I need to give a suggestion to get rid of the window border and implement the close button on the top panel, to the right of the program name, like this:
[11:42] <melvincv> Activities    XChat IRC   (X)
[11:42] <k1l_> tryy3: can you put the output into a pasteservice?
[11:42] <sandb____> okay so the SSH problem was pasting the key rather than copying the keyfile... turns out invalid darn it
[11:42] <Cong> melvincv, type gconf-editor, drop down to metacity
[11:42] <melvincv> We  can save screen space...
[11:42] <ThinkT510> !controls | melvincv
[11:43] <tryy3> k1l_ http://pastebay.net/1149173
[11:43] <melvincv> GNOME 3!!!  Is this the right place to ask about the gnome 3.x launcher? =D
[11:47] <melvincv> Cong, will try that. But the close button is already at the right. I need to get rid of the window border to save space :)
[11:48] <melvincv> lampsBR, I'm on that too
[11:48] <Cong> melvincv, you can't do that you'll loose the buttons.
[11:48] <knoch> Cong: actually I have a linking problem
[11:49] <lampsBR> Can I have 2 columns in that launcher, instead of 1? These buttons are to damn small. =]
[11:49] <melvincv> Cong, that's right. I've installed gnome-shell. That's why I want to ask the GNOME 3 team.
[11:49] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am having quite a hard time understanding the issues on my Acer Aspire One 722. Flash (and video generaly) is quite choppy and laggy when in fulscreen in both 12.04 32 and 64 bits, installing the fglrx driver for Radeon gives better results but an unstable system, so I'd like to know if: I should go with the free radeon driver, if not which version should I use for an AMD C60 Radeon 6290,  and if Flash 64 bit
[11:49] <BlackNarcissus> s is to blame or if it's better than it was once. Thanks a lot, any help would be appreciated.
[11:50] <Cong> knoch, there is a #c++ channel.
[11:50] <knoch> ok thank you !
[11:50] <melvincv> lampsBR, same issue here too... I second that.
[11:50] <Cong> knoch, I got kicked out of #c++. don't go there.
[11:51] <wangpeng> how can i flash my phone
[11:51] <knoch> Haha
[11:51] <wangpeng> in Ubuntu
[11:51] <lampsBR> =] grat, melvincv. I tried to install the dock extension, but it'd configuration isn't showing up in my dconf editor. I'm using gnome 3.6 (and ubuntu 12.10)
[11:51] <Cong> knoch, go to #overflow
[11:52] <ardchoille> lampsBR: 12.10 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[11:52] <ThinkT510> lampsBR: #ubuntu+1 until release
[11:52] <lampsBR> ardchoille, ThinkT510, I see, thanx.
[11:53] <knoch> Cong: there is a #c-unregistered channel
[11:53] <knoch> ##c-unregistered*
[11:53] <Cong> knoch, yes there is, population 1
[11:54] <ardchoille> knoch: that can get confusing. is the C Sharp channel = C#?
[11:54]  * ardchoille giggles
[11:55] <knoch> Cong: 83 for 1 op
[11:56] <tryy3> does anyone know any good/fun java parameters for a mc server?
[11:56] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[11:57] <Cong> knoch, indeed.
[11:57] <SixtyFold> Could someone tell me what folder would chromium be installed in by default please?
[11:57] <Cong> what package have the h264 decoder for totem?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:58] <tsimpson> SixtyFold: several, if you mean the binary /usr/bin
[11:58] <SixtyFold> tsimpson - im trying to do the --incognito thing, so that it always starts in incognito, but that doesnt work with just the link anymore i guess
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Cong, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:59] <TJ-> SixtyFold: To find a typical executable use "which <program-name>", to check where files in a package were installed to use "dpkg-query -L <package-name>"
[12:00] <JSX> hello everyone!
[12:00] <SixtyFold> TJ-  okay tj, ill try this, i dont know those commands very well, but ill get them a go, thanks
[12:00] <JSX> I've got a question about preeseed
[12:00] <tryy3> does anyone know any good/fun java parameters for a mc server?
[12:00] <SixtyFold> ask away JSX
[12:01] <ThinkT510> tryy3: that isn't a ubuntu support question
[12:01] <JSX> is it   "d-i  mirror/country   string  enter information manually"  OR   "d-i  mirror/country   string manual"  to use your own defined mirror, and is that different per major version?
[12:01] <melvincv> SixtyFold, why not install it and check installed files in Synaptic?
[12:01] <tryy3> ThinkT510 oh forgot that
[12:02] <TJ-> SixtyFold: "chromium-browser --incognito" gave me an incognito tab
[12:02] <SixtyFold> yah, if you type it in command line it works
[12:02] <SixtyFold> TJ- but not if you use the start menu
[12:02] <SixtyFold> or whatever you want to call it
[12:02] <SixtyFold> app menu
[12:03] <SixtyFold> if you try to add it to a link/shortcut, it just doesnt save it for some reason
[12:03] <tsimpson> JSX: #ubuntu-installer is a better place to ask about that
[12:03] <JSX> thanks i'll try that one!
[12:03] <wangpeng> DROID RAZR
[12:03] <TJ-> SixtyFold: Are you using 12.04 and Unity, or another desktop environment?
[12:03] <SixtyFold> yes and no
[12:03] <SixtyFold> 12.04 and LXDE
[12:05] <TJ-> SixtyFold: OK. Not got LXDE installed on this one. But program launchers should all be using XDG free-desktop properties files. Have you surrounded the program-name and parameters with double-quote marks?
[12:05] <SixtyFold> well, no, because it wasnt already in the shortcut that was default in here, but i can try that
[12:06] <TJ-> SixtyFold: usually, you'd create a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/  for the application
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> when I go into tty1 (ctrl-alt-f1) i'm getting this error all over my screen"ACPI: EC: Input buffer not empty, aborting" - same thing in tty2 etc --  i followed these instruction, but it's not better http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257067 -- hints & tips?
[12:07] <SixtyFold> ahh, well i used to just go in the app menu, right click on chromium, go to properties and append the --incognito to the end of it
[12:07] <TJ-> SixtyFold: And that isn't working ? I'd have thought it should, too!
[12:08] <SixtyFold> nope, it wont save it in the shortcut for some reason
[12:08] <SixtyFold> it used to, but no longer
[12:08] <SixtyFold> the shortcut just stubbornly goes back to default setting
[12:08] <sandb____> anyone here really good with sshd configuration, subversion, and tunnelling issues & what's your hourly rate?
[12:09] <TJ-> SixtyFold: Is it a default system-created shortcut? Or one you originally created that is now not working as expected?
[12:09] <SixtyFold> TJ- default created
[12:09] <TJ-> sandb____:  packet of peanuts :p
[12:09] <benedict_> hi, do i have to take special care about intel integrated graphic cards? any better drivers like for nvidia or ATI?
[12:10] <sandb____> TJ-: sold... unless they are more expensive than the last Mackinaw peach :)
[12:10] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: where are you appending this, in alacarte?
[12:10] <wangpeng> hello everyone
[12:10] <ThinkT510> benedict_: no, they should work without any configuration, the drivers are in the mainline kernel
[12:10] <sandb____> TJ-: i'm in need of some help with getting svn+ssh tunnelled via a middle man
[12:10] <TJ-> SixtyFold: OK. I'm wondering if the reason you can't edit it is, the default ones come from /usr/share/applications/ and its not creating a user-owned copy in ~/.local/share/applications/
[12:10] <sandb____> TJ-: can I pm you?
[12:10] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - to the end of the /usr/bin/chromium-browser %U in the shortcut command: part
[12:10] <benedict_> ThinkT510, thank you
[12:10] <TJ-> sandb____: We prefer to do support in-channel so everyone can learn and contribute
[12:11] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: are you're editing that file with sudo permissions?
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> sandb____  there's also ##networking
[12:11] <wangpeng> i want to flash my moto mobile but i don't know how to do it  in Ubuntu
[12:11] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - nope, didnt use to have to, but that's an idea too i suppose
[12:11] <sandb____> TJ-: okay, maybe i'll write it up in a gist and paste that
[12:11] <sandb____> TJ-: just wanted to avoid getting lost
[12:12] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: you could always install alacarte and use that to edit menu entries, works great
[12:12] <SixtyFold> the weird thing is if i go to /usr/bin/chromium-browser there is no chromium-browser even there, yet the shortcut always works
[12:12] <TJ-> sandb____: sandb____ It's not something I've played with (svn) but the docs imply "svn co svn+ssh://..." as the style. Is that what you're using?
[12:13] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - does alacarte have a GUI?
[12:13] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: yes, it is a gui menu editor
[12:13] <SixtyFold> my system directory tree understandings are rusty right now
[12:13] <SixtyFold> ahh okay
[12:13] <SixtyFold> thanks
[12:13] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, svn+ssh
[12:13] <sandb____> so the problem is that we can't seem to get me through the firewall to the machine with their svn repo on it
[12:13] <TJ-> sandb____: And can you SSH into the server manually?
[12:13] <sandb____> however they can get me to a machine from which it can be accessed
[12:13] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: alacarte will surprise you, you'll wonder how you got along without it :)
[12:14] <sandb____> TJ-: i've managed to even tunnel direct via the middle-man
[12:14] <sandb____> so the issue is getting svn to do the same
[12:14] <sandb____> TJ-: following the instructions here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5782872/svn-ssh-tunnel-via-3rd-machine
[12:15] <sandb____> TJ-: I setup the [tunnels] section in the .subversion/config file on my machine here
[12:15] <sandb____> then I create the tunnel, that bit works
[12:15] <sandb____> then I try and use subversion via the tunnelled protocol (svn+tssh://)
[12:15] <sandb____> and it fails, in the tunnelled SSH window I get "channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed"
[12:16] <sandb____> which I googled and appeared to be about an sshd param "PermitTunnels yes". I added that to the sshd config and restarted but, no dice
[12:16] <TJ-> sandb____: So are you able to create the tunnel to server1 ( "ssh server1 -L 9000:<IP_ADDRESS>:svnserver:22" ) ?
[12:16] <sandb____> yes
[12:17] <layke_> Anyone ever used synergy for sharing keyboard/mouse? Previously when I've used it, it came witha  GUI? I can't find the website for it now?
[12:18] <TJ-> sandb____: OK. there's instructions for doing things in 2 different ways on that answer; could get mixed up and confusing
[12:18] <skraito> hi is anyone want to join my team?
[12:18] <sandb____> TJ-: I followed the accepted answer
[12:19] <sandb____> TJ-: I've setup the [tunnels] section in my local .subversion/config
[12:19] <skraito> anyone wanna join my team ?
[12:19] <sandb____> and am using svn+tssh://localhost in the subversion command
[12:19] <ThinkT510> skraito: this is ubuntu support channel
[12:20] <niko> skraito: see my pm
[12:20] <skraito> well i found it nothing wrong niko to search for people
[12:20] <skraito> to be in your team
[12:20] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - thanks, that worked perfectly
[12:20] <skraito> why is that wrong ?
[12:20] <ardchoille> SixtyFold: you're welcome :)
[12:20] <woosim> hello how can I add a network printer in xubuntu 12.04? I already looked in the webinterface of cups, but there it say that there are no printers. I also restarted cups after I connected to the network through lan(not wlan). When I open thunar and go on network, then I can see the printer with a blank paper icon. Does that mean that it is not recognized as a printer? If so what can I do? The thunar menu doesn't give me any possibilities to interact
[12:20] <woosim>  with these things as if they were printers
[12:20] <fidel> skraito: this channel is limited to offering support for UBUNTU
[12:20] <fidel> anything else is wrong here ;)
[12:20] <TJ-> sandb____: doing some testing here
[12:21] <SixtyFold> ardchoille - it is a very helpful program, im running lubuntu and this will help a lot where lubuntu is lacking
[12:21] <SixtyFold> brb guys
[12:21] <sandb____> TJ-: thanks, appreciate this
[12:21] <niko> and you have been asked enough time to drop that, skraito
[12:21] <ThinkT510> skraito: this channel is just used to help people with ubuntu support issues, how is what you are doing related?
[12:21] <fidel> layke_: i remember using: synergy-foss.org
[12:21] <layke_> The website seems dead to me?
[12:21] <layke_> Won't load or anything.
[12:21] <layke_> Plus I can't find any mention of a GUI anywhere I look.
[12:21] <fidel> layke_: yep same impression here
[12:22] <layke_> But I specifically remember always using a GUI
[12:22] <fidel> layke_: some synergy projects merged in the last month/years
[12:22] <fidel> there is afaik the basic core - and then again different client uis around it
[12:22] <fidel> considered c hecking the synergy irc chan if there is one in freenode?
[12:23] <ThinkT510> woosim: under system settings there should be printer settings
[12:23] <layke_> No, wasn't aware there was one.
[12:24] <woosim> ThinkT510: It's xubuntu and in the system settings I only found this removable media menu and there I could only tell what command line to run if a printer is connected and nothing else.  Thanks I think I found it. Thats a bit hidden though.. why isn't it in the settings manager?
[12:28] <ThinkT510> woosim: not part of xfce, its gnome based
[12:28] <TJ-> sandb____: (having difficulty reproducing it here)
[12:28] <sandb____> TJ-: just pasting the results for you
[12:29] <woosim> ThinkT510: Ok. Thanks for your help
[12:30] <Simplew> i have followed the howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto to have ubunti QUANTZAL encrypted in LVM but when booting it does not aks for the passord to open the encrypted container, can anone tell me whats going on
[12:30] <ThinkT510> woosim: no worries :)
[12:30] <evilc_> hello. Any could give me some clues... I'm experimenting so slow server usage, in a non-root user, in a dedicated server. And also is so slow in charging the Graphical interface from any software. Could I do something to increase the cpu and memory resources to a non-root user ?  Anyone knows the reason because it's so slow in most of tasks? The server is using a Ubuntu 10.04 desktop, and has 2GB ram. (the cpu is a normal one, dont re
[12:30] <ThinkT510> Simplew: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 until release
[12:30] <sandb____> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/a3923202f096523e2ef3
[12:31] <sandb____> TJ-: as i mentioned I googled the error from SSH and came up with http://linuxindetails.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/channel-3-open-failed-administratively-prohibited-open-failed/
[12:31] <sandb____> but i (think) I've followed those instructions
[12:31] <sandb____> although it occurs to me now that I have followed them on the middle-man... maybe the problem is on the target?
[12:33] <kawaiidesu> What's new in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[12:33] <Pici> kawaiidesu : Quantal/12.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:33] <kawaiidesu> ohai, thanks pici
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> kawaiidesu  ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <evilc_> The root user is working fine, with this 2GB ram and the cpu, and at time of using the non-root user interface the server load is very low. The problem is not accorded to the level of server load/usage
[12:37] <TJ-> sandb____: According to "man 4 sshd_config" ... "PermitTunnel            Specifies whether tun(4) device forwarding is allowed.  The argument must be “yes”, “point-to-point” (layer 3), “ethernet” (layer 2), or “no”.  Specifying “yes” permits both “point-to-point” and “ethernet”.  The default is  “no”.  "
[12:37] <sandb____> TJ-: so, on the middle-man, i've set it to 'yes'
[12:37] <TJ-> sandb____: So, on your proxy-server you'd need to edit "/etc/ssh/sshd_config", "PermitTunnel    yes" and restart the sshd ?
[12:38] <sandb____> TJ-: if proxy means the middle man, then yes... that's what i did
[12:38] <TJ-> sandb____:  checking on one of my servers
[12:41] <sandb____> TJ-: it did occur to me to wonder if the error is that I don't have PermitTunnel on the target machine (rather than the middle-man)?
[12:41] <tryy3> quick general question about ubuntu (sorta), does it work to sort of restart the computer with out restarting it, like only restart the part that handles screens? i connected a new screen to the computer and it doesn't wanna connect fully!
[12:41] <evilc_> Instead of focus it in the non-root user cpu & ram sources. Probably could be managed from the root account but using graphical privileges for the non-root user who is managing the applications. Otherwise, although this user has tty privileges is by his user terminal in the root accound is not able to open a GUI
[12:41] <ovrflw0x> after installing wifi driver bcm43222 on ubuntu (dual boot with Windows 7) my wifi hard/soft switch has messed up, when on windows 7 - i have to manually turn on wifi and once turned on, after suspend it doen't turn on by itself again  i have to manually turn it on. so default state of wifi switch is off it seems, how to fix this?
[12:41] <nwillems> Hey there. I'm running a jenkins server on ubuntu, and have manually installed a newer version. During a recent power failure the jenkins install got "reverted", aka my symbolic link was removed and overwritten by the original jenkins version. Can anyone explain why? And if possible how I can stop this from happening if a new power failure occur?
[12:42] <dr_willis> tryy3:  you can restart the x server. 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[12:42] <sobrediggler> erm ... so i have a question ... why isn't the download page https? And the images properly signed?
[12:42] <nwillems> Hey there. I'm running a jenkins server on ubuntu, and have manually installed a newer version. During a recent power failure the jenkins install got "reverted", aka my symbolic link was removed and overwritten by the original jenkins version. Can anyone explain why?
[12:42] <tryy3> dr_willis will it only restart the screens?
[12:42] <tryy3> (or similiar)
[12:43] <nwillems> Oh sorry for the double - my IRC client isn't kind enough to show my nick viewable.
[12:43] <ThinkT510> tryy3: it restarts the gui
[12:43] <dr_willis> tryy3:  it restarts the x server.. not sure what you mean by 'screens' the x server is the foundation of the gui.
[12:43] <TJ-> sandb____: Well I've just done "ssh -L 1234:<IP_ADDRESS>:22 <IP_ADDRESS>" and got logged into <IP_ADDRESS>. In my case, 252.18 is a Linode at the other end of a VPN, and 251.1 is a local server, so it went local-ME > -remote-Linode > local-Server
[12:43] <tryy3> ah ok, with screens i mean monitors
[12:43] <sandb____> TJ-: yes I have been able to do a tunnelled SSH via the middle-man to the remote
[12:44] <dr_willis> often when tweaking x settings like those i have to restart x fully for them to take affect
[12:44] <dr_willis> ive also had pc's only use dual monitors IF BOTH were plugged in when it booted up.
[12:45] <sandb____> TJ-: using ssh -t -A hostalias ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I can SSH through the middle-man to the remote
[12:45] <sandb____> that works fine
[12:45] <tyler_d> dr_willis: oh I've had those from back in the day
[12:45] <dr_willis> i think it turned off the unused video cardf..
[12:45] <dr_willis> tyler_d:  yep. been a few years back
[12:45] <tyler_d> dr_willis: the orig dual-head cards were the bomb
[12:45] <tyler_d> lol
[12:46] <ovrflw0x> after installing wifi driver bcm43222 on ubuntu (dual boot with Windows 7) my wifi hard/soft switch has messed up, when on windows 7 - i have to manually turn on wifi and once turned on, after suspend it doen't turn on by itself again  i have to manually turn it on. so default state of wifi switch is off it seems, how to fix this? how to use rfkill to fix this?
[12:46] <TJ-> sandb____: I can't make it fail :(
[12:47] <dr_willis> ive also had laptops where i had to play with their fn keys to get a 2nd monitor working
[12:47] <sandb____> TJ-: so the sshd_config PermitTunnel is definitely needed on the proxy/middle-man? And not on the target host?
[12:47] <TJ-> sandb____: With the "ssh -L 1234:<IP_ADDRESS>:22 <IP_ADDRESS>" running (checked with "sudo netstat -lpta | grep 1234") in another terminal I do "ssh -p 1234 localhost" and am instantly at the terminal of the 'svn' server
[12:48] <TJ-> sandb____: I've not used that at all - but then again I didn't get any failures that would push me to add that, as you did
[12:49] <TJ-> sandb____: It's worth adding the debugging to ssh with the "-vvvv" option - it may give you some clues!
[12:49] <TJ-> sandb____: That'd be in the svn config tunnel entry
[12:49] <sandb____> TJ-: right, will try that thanks
[12:50] <TJ-> sandb____: Any differences in usernames on the svnserver and/or proxy, compared to your local machine?
[12:50] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, different on all 3
[12:51] <sandb____> TJ-: okay so https://gist.github.com/7e1c8c08455eca43746f
[12:51] <TJ-> sandb____: So you'll need to add those into the mix, then.
[12:51] <mmm4m5m> Hi. A little help please. In ubuntu 12.04.1, default root password is "!". When I try to "ssh" - key authentication, then the error is "account locked". Question - Is it good to change password to "*" ?
[12:51] <tyler_d> sorry to inject here but if you dont' mind sandb____ what are you doing
[12:51] <sandb____> TJ-: sorry, here's the whole thing: https://gist.github.com/04c1773bbaa2bb1e4418
[12:52] <TJ-> sandb____: On the proxy, did you previously do "sssh-keygen" for user "matt" ?
[12:52] <sandb____> tyler_d: okay so I am trying to get access to a subversion repository on a machine that the client cannot give me direct access to
[12:52] <sobrediggler> default root passwd is not !
[12:52] <TJ-> sandb____: typo!  "ssh-keygen"
[12:52] <compdoc> mmm4m5m, I think that ! is used to disable user accounts.
[12:52] <tyler_d> sandb____: port forwarding
[12:52] <sandb____> TJ-: the user on the proxy is 'mmower' but yes i've done that and setup (and tested) passwordless ssh from the proxy to the target host
[12:52] <Myrtti> mmm4m5m: there is no root account password
[12:52] <compdoc> mmm4m5m, the root account is not enabled by default
[12:52] <dr_willis> i think he means in /etc/padsswd
[12:52] <tyler_d> !root
[12:52] <sandb____> tyler_d: cannot parse your answer :)
[12:53] <sandb____> well in fact i parse it fine
[12:53] <TJ-> sandb____: so is "/Volumes/Corrino/matt" on the svnserver?
[12:53] <sandb____> but, without some more context, i cannot understand what you are trying to convey... we've been using port forwarding
[12:53] <dtcrshr> for some reason my touchpad mouse stopped working. the usb or via synergy works fine. I have dual boot on this note, under windows the touch works fine, also the fisical button to turn on/off the touchpad.. how do i fix this?
[12:53] <tyler_d> sandb____: you are trying to forward a local port for svn to yourself and have it connect through ssh to the actual svn server yes?
[12:53] <mmm4m5m> sobrediggler: as I see, it is "!" in /etc/shadow = disabled account... compdoc: yes, but I can't find info in google.. When I change it to "*" (like user daemon for example), then ssh works - I can ssh as root user (key authentication)
[12:53] <sandb____> TJ-: no you're looking at the output from my local Mac when I am trying to use svn
[12:53] <sandb____> tyler_d: in a nutshell
[12:53] <sobrediggler> dude ! just disables any login
[12:54] <TJ-> sandb____: ahhhh!
[12:54] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good, thanks for the update and let me know if I can help at all
[12:54] <sobrediggler> if you check out the source code for usermod you'll find that out
[12:54] <sandb____> tyler_d: i've been able to tunnel through the proxy to get a remote ssh session
[12:54] <sobrediggler> yeah ... the usermod -p ! blahblahb
[12:54] <sandb____> tyler_d: but trying to use svn+ssh to tunnel through the proxy is breaking
[12:54] <mmm4m5m> sobrediggler: so, is it bad to change it to "*" - I do not want to enable root account... I need it only for ssh
[12:55] <tyler_d> sandb____: you don't need to proxy it if you have ssh access to the local system and can do port forwarding; or am I missing something?
[12:55] <TJ-> tyler_d: do join in! the error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when doing "svn co svn+tssh://localhost/usr/local/svn/repos/fig/trunk"
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> hi
[12:55] <WeThePeople> what is a good way to find files
[12:55] <johangod> hi
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> I have this error in networking
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> siXy: I have this error in networking! Shutting down interface p1p2
[12:55] <dr_willis> dont ssh in as root directltly mmm4m5m
[12:55] <sandb____> tyler_d: what do you mean "ssh access to the local system" ?
[12:55] <morteza_ipo1> I have this error in networking! Shutting down interface p1p2
[12:56] <mmm4m5m> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[12:56] <sobrediggler> yeah just ssh-keygen and dump the keys in the authorizedhost
[12:56] <ovrflw0x> after installing wifi driver bcm43222 on ubuntu (dual boot with Windows 7) my wifi hard/soft switch has messed up, when on windows 7 - i have to manually turn on wifi and once turned on, after suspend it doen't turn on by itself again  i have to manually turn it on. so default state of wifi switch is off it seems, how to fix this? how to use rfkill to fix this?
[12:56] <nwillems> WeThePeople: locate or mlocate, they are my usual choice
[12:56] <sandb____> tyler_d: TJ-: just to make it clear here's the setup https://gist.github.com/543e255e051b8a865ba1
[12:57] <WeThePeople> nwillems, is mlocate with a gui
[12:57] <sandb____> i can reach the Proxy but not the Remote
[12:57] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good, I will take a boo
[12:57] <sandb____> as a test i can ssh to the remote, via the proxy
[12:57] <tyler_d> sandb____: what is the second line?
[12:57] <sandb____> tyler_d: labels for the machines on the first line :)
[12:58] <sandb____> the remote is some Linux, not sure which
[12:58] <sandb____> could also be Ubuntu
[12:58] <sandb____> uname -a doesn't speicy
[12:58] <sandb____> specify
[12:58] <cherva> if I copy a maildir and paste it in another account I will have the same mails on the 2 accounts yes ?
[12:58] <dr_willis> lsb_release -a   perhaps sandb____
[12:59] <sandb____> dr_willis: a ha, thanks
[12:59] <nyuszika7h> hi :)
[12:59] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good. the syntax and formatting should be: ssh <<me>>@Proxy -L <<somerandomport>>:someothermachine:<<thesvnportthere>>
[12:59] <nyuszika7h> has anyone else noticed that it's 12.10.04 today? ;)
[12:59] <redwarriors25> how can i retrieve files in empty trash
[12:59] <nyuszika7h> * 10.04 *
[12:59] <gry> nyuszika7h, what does this have to do with ubuntu support?
[12:59] <tyler_d> sandb____: the connection string on your local should be localhost:<<samerandomportfromabove>>
[12:59] <lampsBR> hahahah great nyuszika7h
[13:00] <nyuszika7h> sorry gry, a little off-topic indeed
[13:00] <nyuszika7h> redwarriors25, I don't get that one. why would you want to retrieve files from a trash that's empty?
[13:00] <lampsBR> nyuszika7h, it's 12.10, 12.04 and 10.04 in the same day
[13:00] <nyuszika7h> lampsBR, I see :P
[13:00] <sandb____> tyler_d: yes that's exactly what i am using
[13:00] <gry> nyuszika7h, deleted files from the system accidentally, needs hardware recovery
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[13:01] <tyler_d> sandb____: very good, so what is the error you are seeing when you try the port forward?
[13:01] <sandb____> okay let me update this gist with everything
[13:01] <gry> nyuszika7h, some software does undelete.. redwarriors25 try searching 'undelete ext4'
[13:01] <tyler_d> sandb____: alright
[13:01] <nyuszika7h> oh
[13:02] <nwillems> WeThePeople: I dont think so. doesn't nautilus have search capabilities?
[13:02] <TJ-> tyler_d: the error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when doing "svn co svn+tssh://localhost/usr/local/svn/repos/fig/trunk"
[13:03] <tyler_d> TJ-: sandb____ hte problem there is that you haven't specified a port other than "localhost"... you need to tell it what port to try on localhost to hit the tunnel
[13:03] <sandb____> tyler_d: TJ-: https://gist.github.com/543e255e051b8a865ba1 <- updated with all info
[13:03] <sandb____> tyler_d: it's def hitting the tunnel because the tunnel session on the proxy is reporting an error
[13:03] <sandb____> but ^^^^ gist should make it clear
[13:04] <TJ-> tyler_d: That's in the svn config file, defined as "tssh = ssh -p 1234"
[13:04] <tyler_d> ahh
[13:04] <sandb____> tyler_d: the "channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed" is printed when I try and using the svn command
[13:05] <tyler_d> sandb____: I would say 1 those ports are 2 small, try upping them to 2000+ and second are you able to ssh to this server and then open the tunnel after?
[13:06] <tyler_d> as well you need to add yourself to the known hosts
[13:06] <sandb____> tyler_d: okay will try higher port numbers
[13:08] <sandb____> tyler_d: i am able to make an ssh connection from the local machine to the remote via the proxy
[13:08] <redwarrios25> elo
[13:08] <tyler_d> sandb____: did you give http://tomorrowisfriday.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/tunneling-subversion-for-the-svnssh-protocol/ a read.
[13:09] <TJ-> sandb____: "channel 3: open failed" refers to "svnserver:4567" - are you running an SSH daemon on port 4567 of svnserver?
[13:09] <tyler_d> sandb____: I have minimal experience with svn.. enough to break a few repos and such. The majority of my tunneling comes into play with http apache etc.
[13:11] <tryy3> how do i install ssh + ftp on ubuntu?
[13:11] <tyler_d> tryy3: `sudo apt-get install openssh-server`
[13:12] <gry> tryy3, use software center or apt-get.. don't recommend ftp, sftp is better, but it's probably there as well
[13:12] <ThinkT510> !ssh | tryy3
[13:13] <tyrok1> Has anyone had success getting a Verizon Pantech UML290 4G USB device working with Precise?  I've gotten it working with an older version of Ubuntu but for some reason the new Network Manager doesn't seem to be able to bring this one up.
[13:14] <tryy3> ThinkT510 i already know what ssh is i just needed to know how to install the server parts
[13:14] <tryy3> gry ye i know sftp is better but i like ftp more :D
[13:15] <blackshirt> !openssh | tryy3
[13:15] <blackshirt> !sshd | tryy3
[13:15] <tyler_d> fusermount
[13:16] <tryy3> blackshirt thanks
[13:16] <sosoman> hi
[13:16] <sosoman> انا عربي!
[13:16] <sosoman> من بعد ؟
[13:16] <TJ-> sandb____: on the Linode, check /var/log/auth.log
[13:17] <sosoman> sobrediggler
[13:17] <sosoman> اه
[13:17] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <sosoman> sobredigglersobredigglessobredigglersobredigglesobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglerrobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglersobredigglerr
[13:18] <sosoman> hiiiiiii
[13:18] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <sosoman> hi
[13:18] <FloodBot1> sosoman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <sandb____> TJ-: will do
[13:20] <rupper> Hi
[13:20] <pdk> have installed 12.04. Changed interfaces file. all network cards disabled. ifconfig shows l0 only. Can any one help?
[13:20] <sandb____> TJ-: ah i think maybe you've given me something there
[13:20] <sandb____> TJ-: Oct  4 14:01:33 linode3 sshd[29835]: error: connect_to svnserver: unknown host (Name or service not known)
[13:21] <sandb____> so maybe i'm doing something wrong in how i'm setting up/using the tunnel
[13:21] <TJ-> sandb____: And one obvious but un-asked question so far. On the Linode, do you have "AllowTcpForwarding yes" in sshd_config ?
[13:22] <sandb____> TJ-: no
[13:22] <sandb____> seems not
[13:22] <TJ-> sandb____: well that makes sense! Linode server *must* be able to resolve 'svnserver' - I was assuming you were replacing 'svnserver' with a real public DNS host.domain.tld
[13:22] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, i'm looking to see where the heck that's coming from
[13:23] <sandb____> because i'm not using 'svnserver' myself that I can see
[13:23] <blackshirt> pdk: ifconfig eth0 up
[13:23] <sandb____> TJ-: ackk... it's in the tunnel setup, i think a too literal C&P
[13:23] <TJ-> sandb____: from when you configure the Mac's local tunnel ("ssh -L 1234:svnserver:4567 server1" - 'svnserver' needs to be a public DNS name, or an IP address
[13:23] <liwiki> hi
[13:24] <sandb____> TJ-: yep, i think i just copied that line without thinking about it too hard :)
[13:24] <TJ-> sandb____: I assumed you were using 'svnserver' to avoid telling the real public DNS name
[13:24] <sandb____> TJ-: a reasonable assumption, no just an idiot
[13:24] <morethananoise> Hey guys, I've got problem, i can not log in to my tty virtual terminal via my login (morethananoise) it keeps saying login incorrect, but I'm sure i've written it with no mistakes... Any ideas?
[13:24] <redwarriors25> any software can retrieve deleted files in trash
[13:24] <TJ-> sandb____: never mind! one thing - you'll be an expert on SSH proxying from now on :p
[13:25] <sandb____> heh
[13:25] <ThinkT510> morethananoise: capslock?
[13:25] <mmaddeee> deleted files in trash in windows or ubuntu ?
[13:25] <sandb____> TJ-: okay so still not working but now there is a long-ass pause
[13:25] <sandb____> exact same error
[13:25] <mmaddeee> and morethananoise .. buddy . did u try resetting the password and then use that in the system ?
[13:25] <TJ-> sandb____: On the Linode, do you have "AllowTcpForwarding yes" in sshd_config ?
[13:25] <morethananoise> ThinkT510: No capslock, i can use any else user, but not mine..
[13:26] <sandb____> ah yes sorry i forgot, i was in the middle of doing that when we spotted the error in auth.log
[13:26] <sandb____> let me sort that out
[13:26] <TJ-> sandb____: no guarantee that is the solution if you're getting the same error!
[13:27] <sandb____> TJ-: okay added AllowTcpForwarding yes and restarted ssh
[13:27] <sandb____> TJ-: reopened tunnel
[13:27] <sandb____> same error only faster
[13:27] <sandb____> let me regist
[13:27] <ManDay> When I UEFI boot from the 12.04 USB Stick, the screen remains black
[13:27] <ManDay> Is there a problem?
[13:27] <TJ-> sandb____: OK ... the default is "AllowTcpForwarding yes" - so unless you had a specific "no" that won't change
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  it may be !nomodeset issue
[13:28] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | ManDay
[13:28] <TJ-> sandb____: check the logs on the Linode again
[13:28] <sandb____> TJ-: okay this is very odd, i'm still seeing svnserver in auth.log
[13:28] <sandb____> yet i am definitely using the remote host FQDN in the tunnel setup
[13:28] <TJ-> sandb____: Have you left a local ssh tunnel running on the Mac?
[13:28] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: ThinkT510 It's a i915 - is that likely?
[13:29] <ManDay> And if it is - shouldn't the live Image have a nomodeset boot entry by default
[13:29] <ThinkT510> ManDay: try it and see
[13:29] <sandb____> okay i've killed all the sessions i was using
[13:29] <sandb____> setting up afresh
[13:29] <ManDay> ThinkT510: I can't.
[13:29] <TJ-> sandb____: good plan :)
[13:30] <ThinkT510> ManDay: well, i've never used uefi so i wouldn't know what else to suggest
[13:30] <redwarriors25> any software can retrieve deleted files in trash
[13:30] <ManDay> ThinkT510: MonkeyDust It also happens when I choose "Check disk for defects"
[13:30] <ManDay> I don't think its a modeset issue, then
[13:30] <ManDay> Most be some UEFI problem
[13:30] <sandb____> i'm also using ports 12345 and 45678 instead of 1234/5678
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  try it to find out
[13:30] <ManDay> Can anyone try boot the live Image by UEFI
[13:30] <sandb____> it's taking ages
[13:30] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: Try what?
[13:30] <sandb____> hasn't failed yet but hasn't connected
[13:31] <sandb____> okay and now it's failed
[13:31] <sandb____> BUT it's failed connecting to the remote host
[13:31] <TJ-> sandb____: Do you have a separate session to the Linode with "tail -f /var/log/auth.log" running so you can see events as they occur?
[13:31] <sandb____> think i'm getting somewhere now
[13:31] <sandb____> TJ-: indeed I do :)
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > ManDay try this
[13:31] <redwarriors25> any software can retrieve deleted files in trash
[13:31] <redwarriors25> : [
[13:31] <redwarriors25> dsadsad
[13:31] <sandb____> ah heck, now i see what that 5678 was about
[13:32] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: I'm 80% positive there is no modeset in memcheck
[13:32] <Cove> Hello
[13:32] <ManDay> 90%, even
[13:32] <TJ-> sandb____: How about the username on 'svnserver' - if its not the same as your username on the Mac, you have to specify it
[13:32] <ThinkT510> ManDay: nomodeset is a boot parameter
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> ManDay  for the remaining 10%, you may want to try it
[13:32] <sandb____> TJ-: okay i've fixed my pure-connection problem
[13:32] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: Fair enough...
[13:32] <TJ-> sandb____: '5678' must be the port on 'svnserver' that the sshd there is listening on
[13:32] <TJ-> sandb____: that'd usually be 22
[13:32] <sandb____> TJ-: yeah, again i blind C&P wihtout thinking
[13:33] <sandb____> once i changed it to 22 it worked
[13:33] <sandb____> now it's asking me for a password and I think for the wrong username
[13:33] <Cove> Would someone beable to give me a hand with something please?
[13:33] <TJ-> sandb____: LOL !! And I thought I was doing bad with a slow brain after staying up overnight hacking :p
[13:33] <fidel> !ask | Cove
[13:33] <TJ-> sandb____: I think, on your "svn co..." line to can suffix it with "--username xxxx"
[13:33] <sandb____> TJ-: it's terrible, as soon as I'm in a hurry it's like my brain stops working
[13:34] <TJ-> sandb____: I know the feeling! brb... nice man with parcels at my door
[13:34] <Cove> Im trying to install ubuntu onto my laptop IBM T42 however when I boot from cd I get a message saying something doesn't support 'pae' and im confused
[13:34] <ManDay> MonkeyDust: ThinkT510 Looking at the grub.cfg, I was wrong, it's not memcheck, sorry my bad
[13:34] <ManDay> I'll try it
[13:34] <sandb____> okay so my problem is now
[13:35] <redwarriors25> ei
[13:35] <BluesKaj> !pae | Cove
[13:35] <fidel> Cove: it usualy helps to actually read the entire error-message and then do either a) a search for that specific error or b) ask again with the full error message inhere
[13:35] <ManDay> ThinkT510: MonkeyDust The black begins right after grub, though
[13:36] <ManDay> Besides, pressing the poweroff button immediately brings down the machine
[13:36] <Cove> That pretty much is the entire error message. I need to find a kernal that supports pae however I only have 1gb ram so im confused?
[13:36] <ThinkT510> ManDay: try it or not, up to you
[13:36] <funky1> hi all, having some trouble with a ftp server i installed glftpd, get an error: error: cannot execute /glftpd/bin/glftpd: No such file or directory
[13:36] <funky1> but the file is at the given location
[13:36] <Anubis> is anyone know why the midnight-commander.org site is untrusted ?
[13:36] <funky1> what could be te issue, permission or something elsE?
[13:36] <nwillems> has anyone ever experience ubuntu overwriting a file after a power failure?
[13:36] <TJ-> sandb____: "svn co<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[13:37] <sandb____> TJ-: yep that's what i'm using but: https://gist.github.com/f905d846897f12ad859f
[13:37] <ManDay> ThinkT510: I tried, it still dies on boot
[13:37] <ManDay> It's not just the screen
[13:37] <fidel> Anubis: its https? -> cert
[13:38] <fidel> Anubis: or feel free to tell us who is calling it untrusted ;)
[13:38] <TJ-> sandb____: did you try, instead, the "--username XXX" too?
[13:38] <Anubis> fidel: yes
[13:38] <sandb____> TJ-: using --username didn't work (i.e. didn't set the username), using user@localhost did
[13:38] <sandb____> but, as you see, something odd has happened
[13:39] <TJ-> sandb____: if all else fails, edit the tunnel spec. in the svn config and add "-l dcartwright"
[13:39] <TJ-> sandb____: and check Linode's auth.log to be sure it isn't trying to authenticate on the Linode, rather than the svnserver
[13:39] <sandb____> i don't see an auth fail on the linode
[13:40] <TJ-> sandb____: that's good news.
[13:40] <sandb____> my understanding is that using svn+ssh you're effectively using unix logins
[13:40] <sandb____> so the password here, is the password for the account on the machine (as if you were using ssh to get a session)
[13:40] <crazydip> is there a good gtk (gnome) gui for git like bazaar explorer?
[13:40] <TJ-> sandb____: so, the last question. Can you, from the Linode, do "ssh -l dcartwright svnserver" ?
[13:40] <Anubis> fidel: i tested with opera and firefox and both browsers reports untrusted site. Opera: the server certificate chain is incomplete and the signer(s) are not registered.
[13:41] <sandb____> TJ-: yes, that works
[13:41] <sandb____> TJ-: also works passwordless
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Cove, you've obviously used the wrong image , try the 32 bit ubuntu image/iso
[13:41] <Anubis> i guess it's because it's a self signed certificate, isn't it ?
[13:42] <redwarriors25> HOW CAN RETREIVE FILES IN UBUNTU 10.04
[13:42] <redwarriors25> HOW CAN RETREIVE FILES IN UBUNTU 10.04
[13:42] <FloodBot1> redwarriors25: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <TJ-> sandb____: hmmm... is svnserver setup to only accept certificates? If so, it *needs* your public cert from the Mac. On the Linode, it's using the pub.cert. from the Linode
[13:42] <sandb____> TJ-: yet using svn command I am being prompted for a password &, then, it's not working and I'm getting these kill signals
[13:42] <sandb____> TJ-: hrmmm i don't know and I am 99.99999% nobody at the client will have the faintest clue
[13:43] <TJ-> sandb____: Well, you said that from the Linode you can ssh in passwordless. That implies you've done "ssh-copy-id svnserver"
[13:43] <ManDay> Does anyone why I can't boot Ubuntu with UEFI? After I select the entry in GRUB, the screen goes black and nothing happens
[13:44] <DJones> !nomodeset | Manday Not sure if this will help,
[13:44] <sandb____> TJ-: I copied the id_dsa.pub from my proxy account to the authorized_keys file for the dcartwright user on the remote
[13:44] <ManDay> DJones: No, already suggested - thanks though
[13:44] <DJones> No probs
[13:46] <ManDay> http://askubuntu.com/questions/193259/booting-the-livecd-usb-in-efi-mode-fails-on-tablet-xe700t1a <- anyone knows help
[13:46] <TJ-> sandb____: OK... so how about you copy from the Linode to the Mac, the user's .ssh/id_rsa and .ssh/id_rsa.pub to the Mac's .ssh/linode_rsa and .ssh/linode_rsa.pub and then in the svn configuration, add to the ssh command "-i $HOME/ssh/linode_rsa" - that uses a different ID file
[13:47] <silverarrow> how do you modprobe sound correctly?
[13:47] <silverarrow> or at all really
[13:47] <TJ-> sandb____: sorry, if you're using DSA, the id_dsa/id_dsa.pub
[13:47] <sandb____> TJ-: okay so i have just verified that i can checkout from the remote to the proxy, no password required
[13:47] <sandb____> TJ-: okay will try that
[13:47] <TJ-> sandb____: make sure you replace my 'rsa' with 'dsa' in all appropriate places :)
[13:47] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: modprobe loads/unloads kernel modules, you'll need to know the name of the module
[13:48] <silverarrow> however, when trash is deleted, you are worse off
[13:48] <sandb____> TJ-: do i add that -i to the tunnel?
[13:48] <sandb____> TJ-: I mean the [tunnel] config
[13:49] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: that is the problem
[13:50] <crazydip> best git gui?
[13:50] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: this is what is listed http://paste.ubuntu.com/1259965/
[13:50] <sandb____> puzzling, saying there's no such file
[13:50] <sandb____> but i have to go
[13:50] <sandb____> TJ-: many thanks for your help so far, i really do appreciate it
[13:50] <sandb____> i've got to head out but will be back in an hour or so... hope you might still be aroubnd :)
[13:50] <TJ-> sandb____: OK, good luck!
[13:50] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: and this is the guide I don`t understand at all https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Why_do_I_have_no_sound.3F
[13:51] <TJ-> sandb____: the "-i ...." to the tunnel spec, yes
[13:51] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: sorry, i don't do macs
[13:51] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: girls or boys then?
[13:52] <ThinkT510> silverarrow: no need for sarcasm, i meant i don't use them
[13:53] <silverarrow> ThinkT510: just a snarky remark
[13:53] <tryy3> how do i install a ftp server?
[13:54] <blackshirt> !vsftpd ! tryy3
[13:54] <blackshirt> !vsftpd | tryy3
[13:54] <ThinkT510> !info vsftpd | blackshirt
[13:54] <blackshirt> !info vsftpd | tryy3
[13:55] <tryy3> blackshirt so just install vsftpd?
[13:55] <blackshirt> !info proftpd | tryy3
[13:56] <blackshirt> !info ftpd | tryy3
[13:56] <blackshirt> tryy3: if you want them
[13:56] <tryy3> blackshirt ah o
[13:56] <crazydip> tryy3: better just follow the ubuntu ftp server guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[13:57] <fidel> hi - trying to get 12.04 installed on a lenovothink centre 71. install works without issues - but i am stuck on reboot after finishing up the core-install as the reboot process ends with: error 1962 - no perating system found. i assume that is the result of uefi right?
[13:57] <crazydip> tryy3: step-by-step directions... although in todays work you rarely need ftp due to ssh
[13:58] <crazydip> tryy3: work = world
[13:58] <tryy3> crazydipi i like ftp too, easier to edit files :D
[13:58] <fidel> any idea how to fix that - as reinstalling grub seems not to be the solution. Ubuntu is creating an efi-partition while setup if that helps
[14:00] <crazydip> fidel: you should really use google man
[14:00] <crazydip> !google
[14:00] <crazydip> fidel: very first google result is exactly your problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146383/think-centre-71-ubuntu-12-error-1962-no-operating-system-found
[14:00] <bazhang> crazydip, dont recommend google here, ever. thanks.
[14:01] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I have an Acer Aspire One 722 with Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits, and an AMD C60 CPU with Radeon 6290. It works out of the box but flash and videos generally are really choppy and laggy when in fullscreen. What can I do ? Will installing the proprietary drivers from AMD solve this ? Thanks
[14:01] <fidel> crazydip: thanks - but please consider that i did that already ;)
[14:01] <crazydip> fidel: okie dokie! :)
[14:01] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[14:01] <fidel> crazydip: using grub boot repair didnt work. chrooting & rewriting grub didnt either
[14:02] <fidel> crazydip: so basically i am trying to find ppl with similar effect and maybe experiences with that lovely efi-crap
[14:02] <awestroke> BlackNarcissus: have you installed propretiary drivers via the ubuntu preferences?
[14:03] <crazydip> fidel: yeah i understand... sorry i don't know anything about efi :(
[14:03] <tryy3> how can i edit the vsftpd.conf ? it says i dont got permissions
[14:03] <awestroke> crazydip: what are you doing to boot?
[14:04] <blackshirt> !permission
[14:04] <blackshirt> !permission | tryy3
[14:04] <BlackNarcissus> awestroke: No I didn't because Jokey fails with an error telling me to check jockey.log, as it always did for me with 12.04 and Radeon drivers, on multiples laptops. I tried to install fglrx via apt, but it's not really helping.
[14:04] <crazydip> fidel: another result i got maybe you have not read/tried: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141879/error-1962-no-opertating-system-found-after-installing-12-04-lenevo-thinkcentre
[14:04] <fidel> awestroke: nothing - he agai nwas trying to help me without knowing the topic in detail
[14:04] <awestroke> oh, wrong person
[14:05] <awestroke> fidel: I got problems with my zenbook laptop when booting via UEFI instead of spamming escape on boot and selecting the USB device
[14:05] <fidel> crazydip: i've checked that post also before asking inhere - didnt help & changing to legacy-boot was no option in the lenovo bios
[14:05] <awestroke> if it helps
[14:05] <awestroke> BlackNarcissus: tail the log
[14:06] <crazydip> fidel: sorry to hear about your troubles though.... lenovo tends to make awesome hardware that's compatible with linux (i'm a thinkpad devotee)
[14:06] <vlt> Hello. A 12.04 machine is still running, responds to pings but I can't login via ssh and NOT on tty1-6 (where I enter the username and RETURN but it doesn't prompt for password). Any idea what's going on there?
[14:07] <BlackNarcissus> awestroke: I did that and followed several howtos to install fglrx from command line, it worked well but videos are still very laggy. I can't tail it now because this is a fresh install, I wanted to start again with something clean. But I don't know where to go.
[14:07] <TJ-> fidel: This appears to be an issue with a UEFI system, is that correct?
[14:08] <fidel> TJ-: yes that is my impression as well
[14:09] <fidel> TJ-: the 12.04 installer seems to create a 100mb uefi-partition on the drive
[14:09] <fidel> TJ-: as i dont see an option to jump from uefi to legacy boot in bios & grub-repair didndt work either i am somehow stuck
[14:09] <morethananoise> Is there any command for seeing other computers connected to LAN?
[14:10] <fidel> morethananoise: see in what application?
[14:10] <tryy3> how can i shutdown gnome temporary and then start it up later?
[14:10] <fidel> morethananoise: and seeing what? just the host - snetwork shares of those host or what are you talking about in detail?
[14:10] <morethananoise> fidel: I just want to see all computers on LAN in terminal.
[14:10] <benedict_> hi, i have a laptop with windows xp, ubuntu 10.04 and ubuntu 12.04 (installed in this order) - doing 'update-grub2' in 12.04 i'll see found linux und initrd image, found memtest, found windows XP and found ubuntu 10.04 - but when booting i don't see 10.04
[14:10] <TJ-> fidel: I assume you can still boot from the liveISO?
[14:10] <dr_willis> tryy3:  you mean stop the X server?
[14:10] <fidel> TJ-: yes i can
[14:11] <tryy3> dr_willis ye or what ever handles gui
[14:11] <TJ-> fidel: Is there a version of Windows installed on it, that you also want access to?
[14:11] <fidel> TJ-: booting live-cds and or running install-procedures fro mthem do work without issues. problem starts on reboot
[14:11] <mrsnow> morethananoise: how about nmap?
[14:11] <fidel> TJ-: no i want a stupid single boot
[14:12] <fidel> TJ-: so linux / ubuntu only and thats it
[14:12] <dr_willis> tryy3:  sudo service lightdm          start/stop/restart  like we mentioned earlier today
[14:12] <crazydip> morethananoise: nmap -sP 192.168.1.*
[14:12] <tryy3> dr_willis ah thanks, forgot sorry
[14:12] <crazydip> morethananoise: assuming of course you are in the IP range of 192.168.1.X
[14:13] <fidel> TJ-: those lenovo think centres seem to have issues with several installers. trying to install xp fails also if you dont create yourself a modified install-medium ....impressive issues ihavent seen before in that detail
[14:13] <tryy3> hehe that gave me some more ram :D
[14:13] <fidel> TJ-: but back to main target - single ubuntu 64bit server - no other os'es needed at all
[14:13] <morethananoise> crazydip: anything i do not have to install? some utility that comes with system..
[14:14] <TJ-> fidel: :p OK ... just trying to get a picture in my mind of what would have happened and how to fix it. The core of the issue is the disk has a GPT (GUID partition table) rather than a 'legacy' MSDOS partition table. One implication of that is when the GRUB bootloader is installed, it should be installing "grub-efi" rather than "grub-pc".
[14:14] <fidel> TJ-: grub-efi vs grub-pc is a good pointer. agreeing to the rest
[14:14] <dr_willis> tryy3:  why do you need moer ram? swap partition should handle out of ram cases
[14:15] <crazydip> morethananoise: in truth i don't even know what is and what's not installed by default as i have had nmap and other programs installed for years :)
[14:15] <TJ-> fidel: One thing to always keep in mind - since it can easily catch us out - is that on a GPT disk there is a 'dummy' MSDOS partition label to prevent legacy tools corrupting the GPT
[14:15] <tryy3> dr_willis i ment that gnome was using alot of ram usage :D
[14:16] <TJ-> fidel: So doing the usual grub-pc updates of the MBR and so forth doesn't have the magic effect one would suppose :)
[14:16] <morethananoise> crazydip: I see. But it helped me, that is what i need, gonna check it out when im back in school. :) Is there something like psshutdown? That come turn off linux by lan? (psshutdown is for windows)
[14:17] <fidel> TJ-: yep i was trying to use fdisk during live-cd which failed as well - i assume this is also a uefi/gpt issue
[14:17] <TJ-> fidel: Have you read this page, and in particular the section "Converting Ubuntu into EFI mode" ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[14:18] <fidel> TJ-: i do see 3 partitions created on that disk by the 12.04 installer: uefi-partition + linux + swap
[14:18] <crazydip> morethananoise: practically no as it would be a monster of a security risk
[14:18] <crazydip> morethananoise: just use ssh
[14:18] <fidel> no - thanks for the link
[14:18] <TJ-> fidel: item 4 of the first paragraph covers your issue, I believe
[14:18] <crazydip> morethananoise: you can even ssh via keys so it would be without a password
[14:18] <fidel> TJ-: thanks gonna check it next hour
[14:18] <crazydip> !ssh | morethananoise
[14:20] <TJ-> fidel: also note what it says in item 1 about 'Boot-Repair' not being preinstalled in the standard 12.04 installer. This link shows you how to install it whilst in the liveISO environment:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu
[14:21] <morethananoise> crazydip: So if i'll learn a bit of ssh, i can turn off computers in class. (it sounds lame, i know, like i'm 13, but we do it all the time in class, but we weren't able to use linux at school before, so i don't know any way..)
[14:21] <ska> Is there an easy way to get UFS-read/write support in 12.04?
[14:22] <crazydip> morethananoise: ssh will allow you to log into the computer with sshd (server) installed and you will be able to use it as if you were right in front of the computer inside a terminal - so you will be able to do a LOT more than just turn it off :)
[14:23] <crazydip> morethananoise: of course you won't be able to turn it back on once you turn it off :D
[14:23] <yowmamasita> anyone here using tint2?
[14:23] <TJ-> !ufsutils | ska
[14:23] <crazydip> morethananoise: via ssh that is
[14:23] <ska> TJ-: I just don't want to compile and install akernel.
[14:23] <morethananoise> crazydip: turning off is enough, believe me. :) so.. lets learn some ssh, thanks you a lot. :)
[14:24] <TJ-> ska: UFS in already supported in 12.04; the user-space tools are in the ufsutils package
[14:24] <yowmamasita> im trying to maximize windows on openbox with tint2 but it goes beyond the tint2 space. when i set tint2 to be a dock, a border shows and it looks ugly. any other way to make it a dock without the border? i just want maximised programs to adjust with tint2 space
[14:25] <ska> TJ-: including RW support?
[14:26] <crazydip> morethananoise: you can start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[14:27] <designbybeck> a good solution for YouTube Full Screen video FIx on dual monitors?
[14:28] <TJ-> ska: there wouldn't be much point in supporting UFS if it didn't at least support [R]ead! Looking at the tools in 'ufsutils' it must support [W]rite too, since there is mkfs, fsck, growfs
[14:28] <crazydip> just found out you can set nameservers per network interface in /etc/network/interfaces - why wasn't this in the man page? :(
[14:29] <ska> TJ-: I'll check it, but its been RO for a long time with the ufsutils..
[14:29] <diverdude> jrib: hello, how can i see which ubuntu version is running?
[14:30] <ThinkT510> diverdude: lsb_release -sd
[14:34] <sasuke> hi guys, i installed ubuntu on virtualbox & when i maximize the screen its not getting full screen
[14:35] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, Have you installed the guest additions
[14:35] <ska> TJ-: It didn't work.. can't mount rw
[14:35] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i tried.. but unable to install that. i downloaded & mount on ubuntu
[14:35] <MrHashimoto> i am looking to add a printer and download the drivers can anyone help
[14:35] <fidel> sasuke: vmware-tools installed? erm vb-extensions i guess
[14:36] <fidel> *guest-additions*
[14:36] <sasuke> fidel, i installed virtualbox ... i dont think vmware -guest will work
[14:37] <fidel> sasuke: sorry i ment 'vb-guest-additions'
[14:37] <sasuke> fidel, i downloaded this
[14:38] <sasuke> vboxadditions
[14:39] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, the guest additions are in the top in a drop down and clickable in a gui.
[14:39] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i tried but it didnt work
[14:40] <crazydip> sasuke: you need to restart the guest after installing guest additions
[14:40] <crazydip> sasuke: if install did not work, just do it by hand
[14:41] <bercik1> Hi
[14:41] <simonpe^^_> Does QtDBus have it's own independent implementation of dbus server/client? I happened to notice that dbus is GPL and Qt LGPL. Can I use QtDBus in a proprietary application?
[14:41] <crazydip> sasuke: inside your ubuntu guest, mount the cdrom and inside it there will be linux-install-guest-addition.sh or something like that
[14:41] <crazydip> sasuke: run that from the terminal
[14:42] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, for exacting instructions there is also a #vbox channel if needed.
[14:42] <bercik1> I just downloaded, built and installed the leatest ATi drivers, but fglrxinfo still displays GLX. Any ideas how to fix that please?
[14:43] <crazydip> sasuke: also before installing guest additions you must install dkms
[14:43] <sasuke> crazydip, hi i mounted it on /media. inside the iso i found "autorun.sh" &  "runasroot.sh"
[14:43] <crazydip> forgot about that
[14:44] <sasuke> dkms pck
[14:44] <crazydip> sasuke: hold on let me mount check where it's at
[14:45] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i got it
[14:45] <sasuke> wilee-nilee, i got it thnx
[14:45] <wilee-nilee> sasuke, I would use the vbox channel rather then getting sort of accurate info here to be honest
[14:45] <fidel> TJ-: as i was curious: it seems to be related with the 12.04 installer & the hardware. if i do run the 10.04 server install it works without issues including rebooting ;)
[14:46] <wilee-nilee> we all want to help but that want can get in the way of actually helping at times.
[14:46] <fidel> the uefi/gpt issue ...continue my tests now ;)
[14:46] <MrHashimoto> i am looking to add a printer and download the drivers can anyone help?
[14:47] <crazydip> sasuke: maybe you have some old version of virtualbox because my iso has a lot more files and the one to run is: VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[14:47] <ardchoille> dr_willis: may I pm you?
[14:47] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I have an Aspire One 722 with Ubuntu 12.04 64bits installed, the AMD drivers for my Radeon 6290, but flash videos are still very choppy and laggy in fulscreen and sometimes even at normal size. Any suggestion would be very welcomed. Thanks.
[14:48] <morethananoise> is there any way to install ubuntu without gui?
[14:48] <sasuke> crazydip, i have   VBoxLinuxAdditions.run also in that. Can you tell me i can i install
[14:48] <jrib> morethananoise: do you want a gui on the installed system? (i.e. do you just want to avoid gui for the installer?)
[14:48] <sasuke> crazydip, i though only sh files will work on ubuntu.
[14:48] <wilee-nilee> morethananoise, there is a alternative cd that is a text install.
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> sorry lads, troubles with my tty's
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> jrib, good question. ;)
[14:49] <fidel> morethananoise: yep there is
[14:49] <crazydip> sasuke: it's just an extension it does not matter, what matters is what's inside, which is actually an sh script anyway :)
[14:49] <morethananoise> jrib: i do not want any x, like gnome etc..
[14:49] <jrib> !minimal | morethananoise
[14:50] <fidel> morethananoise:then use the server-cd and pick nothing in the package-selection
[14:50] <crazydip> sasuke: run it like this: sudo sh VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
[14:50] <morethananoise> fidel: Is there any way with regular CD?
[14:51] <silverarrow> morethananoise: no, only macs work with ubuntu
[14:51] <nwillems> Has anyone experience ubuntu overwriting files after a power failure? I have jenkins installed and after a power failure it was reverted back to the old one from the repos :(
[14:51] <fidel> morethananoise: well you could remove all the packagages afterwards ...which is messy & time consuming
[14:51] <jrib> silverarrow: please don't do that :x
[14:51] <crazydip> sasuke: also note that i'm on the oracle's version of virtualbox not ubuntu's (not the 100% open source)
[14:51] <silverarrow> jrib, yeah, it was a bit naughty of me
[14:51] <fidel> morethananoise: no - i dont know a way using the normal cd - but that does not mean there is no way at all
[14:51] <tyler_d> nwillems: in the event of a power failure the only way to ensure a sane system is to re-install
[14:52] <tyler_d> nwillems: I would suggest that, and a ups
[14:52] <fidel> morethananoise: just go for jribs advice and use the minimal cd or the server one
[14:52] <funky1> hi all, trying to install vmware server on ubuntu 12.04
[14:52] <funky1> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[14:52] <funky1> kernel?
[14:52] <fidel> morethananoise: the main diff is the default package-selection ...and desktop-cd comes with tons of pre-selected packages
[14:52] <nwillems> tyler_d: as in a complete reinstall? Not just disk-check/cleanup maybee some sanity check of files?
[14:52] <sasuke> crazydip, its installing.. now should i need to install any pcks
[14:52] <funky1> how can i find that out?
[14:53] <jrib> !vmware | funky1
[14:53] <funky1> vmwareserver
[14:53] <jrib> funky1: read the link
[14:53] <crazydip> pcks? you mean packages? well you needed dkms otherwise you will have to reinstall the additions after every kernel upgrade
[14:53] <tyler_d> nwillems: the only way to ensure sanity is a complete re-install. the problem being that procs write to disk, when a power failure occurs its the same as the disk becoming full. you don't know where and at what point and what files were opened or written to and just stopped.
[14:53] <wangpeng> i dont like ubuntu
[14:53] <funky1> yes
[14:53] <funky1> already been there
[14:53] <funky1> does not solve my problem
[14:53] <ThinkT510> wangpeng: then don't use it
[14:54] <silverarrow> wangpeng: yeah, so that is why you are here
[14:54] <funky1> still asking for the proper location of c header files
[14:54] <nwillems> tyler_d: But these files that were open would probably have some faulty file ending, or how?
[14:54] <tyler_d> nwillems: however, if you are satisfied with a few sanity checks then I would say cary on. but in the future if something doesn't behave as it should... it is possibly related to this.
[14:54] <wangpeng> i don't like but i must use it
[14:54] <crazydip> sasuke: pcks? you mean packages? well you needed dkms otherwise you will have to reinstall the additions after every kernel upgrade
[14:54] <wangpeng> i want to meet you
[14:54] <jrib> funky1: well what steps on the wiki are you following exactly?
[14:55] <jrib> !ot | wangpeng
[14:55] <tyler_d> nwillems: I don't know how all of your applications write to files or swap or memory; nor all of your daemons running.
[14:55] <funky1> yes
[14:55] <funky1> but again those steps are not for 12.04
[14:55] <jrib> funky1: so you aren't following the wiki?  Yes, the wiki is outdated, but you can see what the steps were for earlier versions of ubuntu
[14:55] <sasuke> crazydip, i restarted the vbox.
[14:55] <nwillems> tyler_d: but back to the original problem, I had made a symlink from jenkins-<newer.version>.war
[14:55] <funky1> yes i did that and this is not first time i install vmware server
[14:56] <wangpeng> are you anger?
[14:56] <funky1> but it is giving me trouble when it needs to locate the c header files
[14:56] <jrib> funky1: so I repeat my question: what steps on the wiki are you following exactly?
[14:56] <tyler_d> nwillems: ... ok?
[14:56] <tyler_d> I missed the orig question sorry.
[14:56] <fidel> wangpeng: no - but we all try to stay on topic ... and chan-topic is offering help. if you want to discuss other things -Y consider using other channels
[14:57] <nwillems> * to jenkins-<newer.version>.war from jenkins.war, and after this power failure, the symlink was gone and the original jenkins.war(as in the one installed by apt-get) was back. How so?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> wangpeng  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[14:57] <funky1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server/AMD64
[14:57] <funky1> so when runnign the script it is asking for the c header location
[14:57] <nwillems> tyler_d: And i accidentially hit my enter-button to soon :(
[14:57] <funky1> there is nothing about that in the wiki
[14:57] <funky1> so what to do
[14:57] <sasuke> crazydip, its working .... thnx a lot
[14:57] <jrib> funky1: did you install the packages specified before that?
[14:58] <jrib> !who | funky1
[14:58] <tyler_d> nwillems: so your sym link is not htere?
[14:58] <funky1> yes
[14:58] <jrib> funky1: so have you tried using the default answer?
[14:58] <funky1> jrib: yes
[14:58] <jrib> funky1: and what is the result?
[14:58] <nwillems> tyler_d: no, it is replaced by the original package. It seems that ubuntu made som recover mode, and discovered that jenkins.war was no longer the one from the package and then replaced it :s
[14:59] <funky1> jrib: that is not the right directory
[14:59] <jrib> funky1: what exactly is the output?
[14:59] <funky1> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[14:59] <jrib> funky1: dpkg -L THE_LINUX_HEADER_PACKAGE_YOU_INSTALLED_BEFORE
[14:59] <foobArrr> can rhythmbox watch a folder for changes/additions or do I have to import every new subfolder manually?
[15:00] <nwillems> tyler_d: sorry, yes it is not there. it is replaced.
[15:00] <tyler_d> nwillems: I do not know what that package is I'm sorry. But my advise is still the same; you are trying to fix a volatile system that is not predictable now; and who knows the levels that this is now broken.
[15:00] <fidel> foobArrr: maid is a nice way to monitor certain folders
[15:00] <jrib> fidel: I'll be right back
[15:00] <funky1> jrib: this is fresh install on new machine
[15:00] <crazydip> sasuke: awesome, you're welcome... have fun!
[15:01] <fidel> jrib: thanks - but i'll leave now until tomorrow. Got 1 step further .... lets talk tomorrow if you are interested in general in that efi/gpt/issue
[15:02] <sandb____> TJ-: still around?
[15:03] <GeoGeek> Any mondorescue experts here? I am trying a selective restore and it appears to work, but when I reboot the machine the files haven't been restored.
[15:03] <jrib> funky1: what?
[15:03] <davidgilmour> anyone knows a way to save a whole ubuntu system? i'm currently running a vps (linode), and i want to save an image of the disk or something so i can restore it later in a clean system
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, edit-preferences-music set the file you want watched
[15:03] <nwillems> tyler_d: Its a 30M file - it doesn't just get there. The jenkins.war is located in /usr/shar/jenkins/jenkins.war, i switched the real file for a symlink to a file in the same dir. It just seems VERY strange that it is replaced. If the system failed, it should just recover any broken inodes or such and then get up and running again, not replace my files. So I'm seeking an explanation on how this happened.
[15:03] <GeoGeek> @davidgilmour: mondo
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> davidgilmour, I use clonezilla for cloning.
[15:04] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at<PHONE_NUMBER>0000f0
[15:04] <tyler_d> nwillems: well, sorry I couldn't offer an explanation on that for you. best of luck
[15:04] <jrib> funky1: do you understand what to put after the dpkg -L?
[15:04] <funky1> jrib: i think not
[15:05] <jrib> funky1: what packages have you installed because of the advice on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server/AMD64 ?
[15:05] <nwillems> tyler_d: Thanks anyway. Do you know of any ubuntu-dev channel I could join and ask?
[15:05] <tyler_d> nwillems: unfortunately not
[15:05] <foobArrr> wilee-nilee: thanks
[15:06] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, no problem.
[15:06] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at<PHONE_NUMBER>0000f0
[15:06] <funky1> jrib: all that is mentioned there my kernel iheader is linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic
[15:07] <jrib> funky1: so run: dpkg -L linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic
[15:07] <funky1> jrib: yes that gives me a bunch of directories
[15:07] <funky1> all in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic/include/
[15:07] <funky1> and also tried that with vmware
[15:07] <jrib> funky1: and what was the output?
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> nwillems  dev channels are usually for support
[15:08] <funky1> jrib:The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match
[15:08] <funky1> your running kernel (version 3.2.0-31-generic).  Even if the module were to
[15:08] <funky1> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> nwillems  dev channels are usually not for support
[15:08] <jrib> funky1: and what's the output of « uname -r »?
[15:09] <funky1> jrib:3.2.0-31-generic
[15:09] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at<PHONE_NUMBER>0000f0
[15:09] <bazhang> dileep, yes, we see, what is the context
[15:09] <sin_tax> anyone know if there's a way to confirm that I've properly compiled Curl with c-ares support?
[15:10] <dileep> yes
[15:10] <bazhang> dileep, just repeatedly posting that without context wont get an answer
[15:10] <utabak> hi, is there a way to install ia32-libs for 32 bit applicatios, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs give a lot of dependency problems...
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> utabak  ia32-libs is part of something bigger, moment
[15:10] <jrib> funky1: well that's silly
[15:10] <dileep> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at<PHONE_NUMBER>0000f0
[15:11] <utabak> MonkeyDust: I could not find where it is
[15:11] <bazhang> dileep, Stop that
[15:11] <wam> Hi, I'm running unity 3d Ver. 5.16 in ubuntu 12/04. My performance on a intel graphics chip is very poor as soon as I connect my 2 displays to the notebook. With only the notebook screen (1440x900) it's ok, but with my current width of 4480px, it's lagging like hell. Unity 2d works smoothly. Is there any documentation how I could fix this performance problem? I'd be willing to deactivate eye-candy if that helps.
[15:11] <bazhang> !details | dileep
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> utabak  it's ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:12] <utabak> MonkeyDust: oh wait that was the one I tried got lots of dependency problems
[15:12] <dileep> 12.04
[15:12] <jrib> funky1: same issue on earlier version: http://serverfault.com/questions/230767/how-do-i-install-kernel-headers-for-vmware-to-match-my-running-kernel-version-2 (read for hints)
[15:13] <OerHeks> utabak, what version of Ubuntu ? 12.04 is already multi-arch
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> utabak  first on my mind: make sure you're not using old repos
[15:13] <utabak> OerHeks: I use 12.04 precise
[15:14] <jrib> funky1: there's also some discussion here with a link to a vmware forum topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596105
[15:14] <utabak> MonkeyDust: maybe I should check
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> utabak  type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here
[15:14] <nwillems> MonkeyDust: Well - would seeking an explanation to some problem and not the solution, still be described as support?
[15:14] <jrib> funky1: you may also want to try the vmware channel for their advice
[15:14] <funky1> jrib:will have a look, thx
[15:14] <bazhang> nwillems, whats the issue, ask here
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> nwillems  the explanation is the first step toward a solution
[15:15] <gyre007> how does upstart compare to runit ? can I use upstart as a service supervisor ?
[15:16] <jrib> gyre007: try #upstart
[15:16] <nvictor> hey all
[15:16] <utabak> MonkeyDust: I learned some new trick from you ;-) here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260129/
[15:17] <anonymous> hallo
[15:17] <nwillems> bazhang: After a powerfailure my jenkins installation has kinda "reset". Previously I had a symlink from jenkins.war, now I have the old/original jenkins.war file back. Why has ubuntu removed my symlink and replaced it with the original file?
[15:17] <sandb____> can anyone tell me why, when I generate a keypair without a passphrase (ssh-keygen -t rsa) on this Ubuntu 10.04.4LTS system and then copy it back to my Mac and try and use it I get prompted for the passphrase?
[15:17] <nvictor> which log file would contain file remove operations ?
[15:17] <gyre007> will do jrib
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> utabak  it's the natty repos, below :)
[15:18] <utabak> MonkeyDust: but natty repos are commented
[15:19] <utabak> MonkeyDust: maybe they are activated in the synaptic
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> utabak  get rid of the natty ssources, it may sovlve the issue
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[15:21] <utabak> MonkeyDust: indeed there were some in the software center
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> utabak  also: the natty source s are 64bit, the precise are 32bit
[15:22] <aristidesfl> hello
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse i386 Packages
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> http://packages.medibuntu.org natty/non-free amd64 Packages
[15:22] <sandb____> TJ-: amazingly, despite strange problems (being prompted for the passphrase for a passphrase-less keyfile, signal 15's etc...) I have been able to checkout code from the remote svn repo!
[15:22] <aristidesfl> I need to copy the contents of a normal partition to a lvm lv
[15:22] <utabak> MonkeyDust: that is the same problem
[15:22] <utabak> MonkeyDust: still
[15:22] <aristidesfl> should I use cp, dd, rsync, tar.. ?
[15:22] <utabak> MonkeyDust: with sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:25] <BlackNarcissus> I am using Ubuntu 12.04 64bits on an AMD Radeon chipset with working proprietary drivers, and flash videos are really laggy when fullscreen. Any suggestions would be very welcomed. Thanks.
[15:25] <pendi23> Hi, I'm for the first time on an IRC.
[15:26] <pendi23> Could I ask you for something?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ask away
[15:27] <pendi23> I have a NTFS mounted to /mount/c. And I want to give r/w/e right to a "normal account".
[15:29] <pendi23> Can anyone help me? I tried Ubuntu Wiki -- chmod but it didn't help.
[15:29] <llutz> !ntfs | pendi23
[15:29] <Hatori> pendi23, you should more detail
[15:30] <pendi23> During the installation I set auto-mounting of the partition. Being an Administrator, I use it normally. But it doesn't work by a "normal-user" account.
[15:32] <bkc_> pendi23: -o user,rw,auto
[15:36] <pendi23> Thanks, I'll try it.
[15:37] <utabak> MonkeyDust: is there a way to install ia32-libs for ubuntu 12.04
[15:37] <utabak> Is there a way to install ia32-libs for ubuntu 12.04
[15:37] <utabak> I have been trying for an hour without any success
[15:38] <bkc_> utabak: ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[15:38] <utabak> bkc_: lots of dependency problems which I could not understand
[15:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: try to google before you ask :)
[15:38] <utabak> WhereIsMySpoon: I read that manual already
[15:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: so you tried sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 gcc-4.6-base:i386 libstdc++5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
[15:39] <utabak> WhereIsMySpoon: none helped
[15:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> ?
[15:39] <jrib> utabak: you should pastebin what you are doing and the full output
[15:40] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260176/
[15:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> utabak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880965
[15:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> basically, it isnt ready yet
[15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> from what i see
[15:42] <bkc_> utabak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18545/installing-suggested-recommended-packages <-- tried this one
[15:42] <wil_> hey is this irc channel for Xubuntu support too?
[15:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: #xubuntu
[15:42] <wil_> thanks
[15:43] <wil_> But I think I have this problem at every operating system xD
[15:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: you can try asking here too, if it isnt too specific
[15:43] <wil_> it isnt very specific
[15:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> xubuntu is quite similar to ubuntu, just has less stuff
[15:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: then ask
[15:43] <wil_> yeah
[15:43] <wil_> On a moment my CPU fan stops using
[15:43] <wil_> and then my CPU will get too hot
[15:43] <jrib> utabak: so do you have any unofficial packages installed or unofficial repositories enabled?
[15:44] <wil_> and then my pc turns off
[15:44] <wil_> automaticly
[15:44] <jrib> !enter | wil_
[15:44] <wil_> oh I am very sorry... But does anyone has an idea here?
[15:44] <utabak> jrib: as far as I know not but let me see my sources.list
[15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: could be lots of things, how old is your fan?
[15:44] <wil_> idk, this laptop I am using is 5 years or so
[15:44] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: does this happen on windows?
[15:45] <WhereIsMySpoon> if you use windows
[15:45] <wil_> uhh IDK
[15:45] <utabak> jrib: no not
[15:45] <davidgilmour> anyone knows how can i convert a raw file made by dd to iso?
[15:45] <kermit> davidgilmour: convert?  if its a raw file with dd, it already is an iso
[15:45] <wil_> nope
[15:46] <kermit> davidgilmour:  i mean, if yuo dd'd an iso, its still an iso
[15:46] <wil_> whreismyspoon no
[15:46] <WhereIsMySpoon> wil_: sounds more like a hardware issue than anything else tbh
[15:46] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, just rename the extension of the file to .iso and it will be :)
[15:46] <davidgilmour> actually i'm using ddrescue. i want to make a disk image.. the output is the same as an iso format?
[15:47] <WhereIsMySpoon> afk
[15:47] <jrib> utabak: I can try to help you, but it will take a few rounds of pastebin
[15:47] <wil_> well, then it should stop when I boot the laptop don't yo think so
[15:47] <wil_> ?
[15:47] <davidgilmour> thanks, i'm getting a little bit old for this
[15:47] <utabak> jrib: ok
[15:47] <jrib> utabak: pastebin output of « sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines:i386
[15:47] <jrib> »
[15:48] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, yes but you will end up with a iso of your hard disk.
[15:48] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260185/
[15:49] <wil_> I think I can better post my problem at the forums
[15:49] <Mechdave_> utabak, I got that when I enabled precise-proposed
[15:49] <wil_> what is better, askubuntu or ubuntforums
[15:49] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386
[15:49] <llutz> davidgilmour: "ISO" refers to iso9660 (used for cd-roms). so no, you'll get just a plain image-file
[15:50] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260192/
[15:50] <davidgilmour> that's good enough as long as i can restore it back as i would like an iso :)
[15:50] <KenSharp> Hi all. I have installed aufs-tools but mount just prints the help whenever I try to use it. I'm guessing but do I need to build the kernel module also?
[15:51] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-0:i386
[15:51] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260193/
[15:52] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libcairo2:i386
[15:52] <utabak> Mechdave_: hmm ok that is a different one
[15:52] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, all I ever do is use dd if=/dev/some_partition of=/path/to/image/file. And to restore dd if=/path/to/image of=/dev/disk
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> KenSharp  i had never heard of it, but start here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/aufsRootFileSystemOnUsbFlash
[15:52] <BlackNarcissus> Hello. Sorry to ask again but I am using Ubuntu 12.04 64bits on a netbook with Radeon HD chipset and visibly working AMD drivers, but flash videos are very choppy and laggy when fullscreen. I tried everything, help would be really appreciated. Thanks
[15:53] <Mechdave_> davidgilmour, There are other options too. Maybe read man dd before you do anything
[15:53] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260197/ where are you trying to reach ;-)
[15:54] <jrib> utabak: sudo apt-get install libxrender1:i386    eventually, it should say package is X version but I want Y
[15:54] <jrib> utabak: sometimes I try to make a smart choice about the chain to follow, but don't always succeed ;)
[15:54] <utabak> ok before you asked I understood what you try to do and now a lot packages to be removed
[15:54] <utabak> with that command
[15:55] <jrib> utabak: pastebin
[15:55] <jrib> utabak: (don't accept)
[15:55] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260201/
[15:56] <Vooloo> when I type "crontab -e" what file is it editing? at the top it says /tmp/ ... but can I find this specific file somewhere?
[15:56] <utabak> jrib: dont worry I am not that rokkie :-)
[15:56] <jrib> utabak: interesting...
[15:56] <utabak> jrib: ??
[15:57] <jrib> utabak: apt-cache policy libxrender1:i386
[15:57] <llutz> Vooloo: yes, in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[15:57] <Mechdave_> Vooloo, /etc/crontab
[15:57] <utabak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260206/
[15:58] <jrib> utabak: also I find it interesting that it wants to install emacs when you just ask for libxrender1
[15:58] <Mechdave_> Oops, wrong file
[15:58] <datruth> Hey when a person leaves there laptop on charge 99% of the time they use does this kill the battery?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> utabak  still struggling with ia-32 ?
[15:59] <Mechdave_> datruth, It killed mine
[15:59] <utabak> MonkeyDust: unfortunately
[15:59] <ThinkT510> datruth: not that i've noticed
[16:00] <Mechdave_> utabak, I installed ia32-libs-multiarch without problems
[16:00] <datruth> Mechdave_: ;/
[16:00] <jrib> utabak: out of curiousity what does this do: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:00] <utabak> jrib: that is also strange but it does nothing
[16:00] <osse> is there a CLI way of adjusting the sound volume as if you used the "systray" icon?
[16:00] <datruth> my laptop is a desktop replacement so I uusually leave it on charge I guess this is a bad thing
[16:01] <Mechdave_> jrib, I had the same problem when I installed precise-proposed packages to get gvfs working with japanese char sets
[16:02] <Mechdave_> jrib, Just wondering if there is a proposed package breaking things there somewhere
[16:03] <jrib> utabak: usually it turns out something like Mechdave_ suggests.  Either -proposed or -updates was enabled at one point, an upgrade was done, and then it was disabled.  But this last apt-get output confuses me.  Does Mechdave_'s suggestion ring any bells?
[16:03] <Mechdave_> datruth, I was told by my battery supplier to "exercise" the battery on a regular basis
[16:03] <jrib> osse: hmm.  Have you tried using pacmd maybe?
[16:03] <bookman> who knows how to install "curl" out of terminal? The server is busy and doesn`t want to download curl
[16:04] <utabak> jrib: what was his sugge
[16:04] <jrib> bookman: what does "out of terminal" mean?
[16:04] <yujadeh> join
[16:04] <utabak> jrib: what was the suggestion?
[16:04] <yujadeh> this is the ubuntu channel?
[16:04] <utabak> jrib: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch ??
[16:04] <datruth> Mechdave_: I see
[16:04] <bazhang> yujadeh, yes
[16:04] <jrib> utabak: regarding the -proposed or -updates repository being enabled and then disabled
[16:04] <bookman> jrib: i tried to install it through terminal
[16:04] <yujadeh> ohh thx bazhang
[16:04] <jrib> bookman: yes?
[16:05] <Mechdave_> bookman, start with sudo apt-get install curl
[16:05] <bookman> jrib: but the rezult is 0
[16:05] <jrib> bookman: pastebin full input and output
[16:05] <bookman> jrib: the server is unaibale
[16:05] <yujadeh> someone know if i can open metacity with lightdm stoped?
[16:05] <Mechdave_> bookman, then how to use is man curl
[16:05] <utabak> jrib: I did not understand what I should do now, confused,
[16:05] <bookman> jrib: ok, i`ll try that =)
[16:05] <jrib> utabak: did you ever enable ubuntu-updates or ubuntu-proposed repositories?
[16:06] <osse> jrib: no I haven't. It looks interesting. I'll experiment with it. Thanks =)
[16:06] <utabak> jrib: I am not sure but what is the point?
[16:06] <Mechdave_> utabak, did you change the software sources in Ubuntu Software Center at all lately?
[16:06] <jrib> utabak: it's often the cause of issues like these
[16:06] <johangod> im installing mac in virtualbox :D
[16:06] <bookman> Mechdave: I know how to use it, I can`t download =) It`s on desktop, on laptop it`s okay =)
[16:06] <yujadeh> someone can help me with ligthdm?
[16:07] <utabak> Mechdave_: ok this is better, yes, I played with them today after these problems
[16:07] <jrib> !ask | yujadeh
[16:07] <bookman> Mechdave_: I know how to use it, I can`t download =) It`s on desktop, on laptop it`s okay =
[16:07] <utabak> Mechdave_: not software resources but the synaptic gui, that is the same I guess
[16:08] <yujadeh> can i close lightdm and open only metacity?
[16:08] <jrib> yujadeh: lightdm is the login screen were you enter your password
[16:08] <Mechdave_> utabak, do you remember which packages were installed when you played around with the sources?
[16:08] <yujadeh> im so confused xD
[16:08] <pr0metheu5> Is there a way to edit gnome appearance settings within fluxbox
[16:08] <yujadeh> so, i have to stop gdm and then open metacity only?
[16:09] <utabak> Mechdave_: I tried to install ia32-libs from there but it was not possible so I could not install any packages
[16:09] <Mechdave_> bookman, Ok maybe you might have to wait until the server is not so busy :)
[16:09] <bookman> Mechdave_: ok =)
[16:09] <utabak> Mechdave_: but is not there a root solution for this?
[16:10] <utabak> Mechdave_: something like leaving only sources of the supported software in sources.list and update , sth like this??
[16:10] <jrib> pr0metheu5: I just edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini , but there are programs that at least let you change the gtk2 settings (gtk-chtheme is one I just found in the repositories)
[16:10] <johangod> i have soon tried almost every linux distros and i think xubuntu is the best :D
[16:10] <jrib> yujadeh: why?
[16:10] <jrib> !who | yujadeh
[16:11] <jrib> utabak: how did you modify your sources exactly?
[16:11] <Mechdave_> utabak, There is a way, just takes some finding. One way is to identify which packages belong to proposed and unsupported and updates and selectively removing them
[16:11] <johangod> just one bad thing i cant disable keyring... can someone help me with that?
[16:11] <yujadeh> !tab
[16:11] <yujadeh> jrib: I want to close the gnome shell and only start metacity
[16:11] <OerHeks> utabak, if you are on 12.04, your system is multi-arch, so no ned for IA32-libs
[16:11] <bobweaver> metacity --replace
[16:12] <yujadeh> but cant stop it with /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[16:12] <utabak> OerHeks: this is even strange
[16:12] <jrib> yujadeh: gdm is also a login screen.  Lightdm is the default login screen.  They serve different functions than unity, gnome shell, and metacity
[16:12] <bazhang> yujadeh, those are two different things, gdm and lightdm. why are you wanting metacity only, by the way
[16:13] <jrib> OerHeks: here's the output of « sudo apt-get install libxrender1:i386 » for utabak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260201/
[16:13] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  ps aux | grep <name that you want to get info on>    then kill pid  , example      killall unity-2d-{shell,pannel,spread} && metacity --replace
[16:13] <utabak> jrib: basically the source of the problem started with "./gmsh: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64"
[16:13] <yujadeh> bobweaver: thx im trying it
[16:14] <utabak> jrib, OerHeks , Mechdave_ : then started on its mailing list and found out that it is related to ia32-libs
[16:14] <jrib> utabak: output of « uname -m » ?
[16:14] <utabak> jrib: x86_64
[16:14] <OerHeks> utabak did you somewere use 'Aptitude' ?
[16:15] <utabak> OerHeks: yes, why
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> ah!
[16:15] <windows-pure-ago> ls
[16:15] <windows-pure-ago> ls
[16:15] <bazhang> nice catch OerHeks
[16:15] <OerHeks> utabak, then i found your problem, paptitude is depreciated since ubuntu is multiarch
[16:15] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[16:15] <bazhang> windows-pure-ago, wrong terminal
[16:15] <windows-pure-ago> sorry just a habit
[16:16] <utabak> OerHeks: ok, so what should I do now look at the page there on
[16:16] <BlackNarcissus> Hello. Sorry to ask again but I am using Ubuntu 12.04 64bits on a netbook with Radeon HD chipset and visibly working AMD drivers, but flash  and HTML5 videos in browser are very choppy and laggy when fullscreen. I tried everything, help would be really appreciated. Thanks
[16:17] <bobweaver> BlackNarcissus,  where browser are you useing and where did you get flash  ect ?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> BlackNarcissus  right click on the video, enable/disable accelleration (i forget which)
[16:17] <bobweaver> s|where | what
[16:17] <OerHeks> i would go for a fresh install, as aptitude did wreck your system
[16:17] <napster> !grub
[16:17] <yujadeh> bobweaver: i think we dont understand xD
[16:17] <Mechdave_> utabak, jrib OerHeks I don't suppose they all are 32 bit marked for removal?
[16:18] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what are you trying to do with metacity ?
[16:18] <yujadeh> bobweaver: wait a moment ill try to explain better
[16:18] <midnightcoffee> not sure if this is the right place for this question. I'm trying to setup pyclewn and the instructions say "The installation process uses the environment variable EDITOR to invoke Vim and install the pyclewn help file, gvim is used when this environment variable is not found." how do ..what/how do i set my environment variable and to what?
[16:18] <Mechdave_> utabak, jrib OerHeks Have you got your $HOME on a seperate partition than /
[16:18] <BlackNarcissus> bobweaver: I'm using the latest Firefox and I installed flash via flashplugin-installer. I also tried getting the libflashplayer.so and putting it in .mozilla/plugins to no avail.
[16:18] <utabak> Mechdave_: no it is on /
[16:19] <Mechdave_> utabak, I think maybe you should back up your $HOME asap :)
[16:19] <BlackNarcissus> MonkeyDust: I tried and it the same, I did a fresh install and now I'm not even able to click the checkbox...
[16:19] <bobweaver> BlackNarcissus,  you have installed Ubuntu-restricted-extras ? <<spelling could be wrong
[16:19] <utabak> Mechdave_: why do you say so?
[16:20] <BlackNarcissus> bobweaver: Yes
[16:20] <yujadeh> bobweaver: i want to kill the graphics and only leave the window manager
[16:20] <DaemonicApathy> Is there an easy way to automate mirroring additions to Home on a separate partition, but not deletions?
[16:20] <jrib> utabak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1260201/ isn't aptitude output, right?  It's apt-get output?  I'm kind of curious about what you did with aptitude if you happen to remember
[16:20] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what DE are you using atm ?
[16:20] <utabak> jrib: all the pastebins are 'apt-get'
[16:20] <bazhang> yujadeh, you want a window manager without an xserver?
[16:20] <Mechdave_> utabak, well in case you need to do a fresh install. It pays to back up everything while your system is still working. It is much harder to back up after the system is broken. When you have package problems such as you have it is very easy to break your system accidently
[16:21] <yujadeh> bazhang: yep thats it
[16:21] <utabak> Mechdave_: I was also afraid of this
[16:21] <Mechdave_> utabak, it is just a precaution at the moment
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> utabak  i agree, fresh install is faster and easier than a repair -- backup first!
[16:22] <yujadeh> bazhang: what i should do?
[16:22] <utabak> Mechdave_: ok I will start backing up
[16:22] <Krasus> Hey, I need to do a simple poster for my school work what program is best for it? something simple i m not a pro when it comes to graphic :)
[16:23] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  you have looked at $(HOME)/.xinitrc
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> Krasus  inkscape
[16:23] <yujadeh> bobweaver: omw
[16:23] <Krasus> MonkeyDust, k thx. Do u have some basic guide of inkscape usage ?
[16:24] <bazhang> Krasus, #inkscape has a channel here on freenode
[16:24] <yujadeh> bobweaver: i dont find it bob
[16:24] <fidel> Krasus: in general there is no best ;). my advice would be 'gimp' - and maybe: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> Krasus  i know it makes vector graphics, you can easily resize
[16:25] <Krasus> thx fidel and MonkeyDust
[16:25] <Mechdave_> utabak, Have you been using Synaptic?
[16:25] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  two things to look at    man startx   and man metacity
[16:25] <bobweaver> bith anwsers are in there
[16:25] <utabak> Mechdave_: yes
[16:25] <bobweaver> both *
[16:25] <Krasus> MonkeyDust, i got 2 logos and i want to make a simple poster with them
[16:25] <Krasus> plus some words like when where etc.
[16:25] <Mechdave_> utabak, could you find broken packages with that?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Krasus  gimp is for image manipulation, then fidel 's suggestion may be better
[16:26] <Mechdave_> utabak, like here --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122105/how-do-i-locate-and-remove-broken-packages-that-i-have-installed
[16:26] <bobweaver> like metacity --display=waylan --replace
[16:26] <Krasus> ok i will try but i m afraid Gimp maybe to complicated for me
[16:26] <Krasus> but i will give a try
[16:26] <yujadeh> bobweaver: and if i want to kill a x session?
[16:27] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  why ?
[16:27] <utabak> Mechdave_: but I should do a backup first I guess...
[16:28] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  I dont undersand  Look at"man startx" & "man  metacity"
[16:28] <yujadeh> bobweaver: yes, im looking at that
[16:28] <Mechdave_> utabak, I agree. A backup would be good. Don't forget to backup all your dot files in your $HOME as well :)
[16:29] <yujadeh> bobweaver: for example, i want to enter in only text mode and then open a terminal and start a program like firefox or something
[16:29] <utabak> Mechdave_: I did an upgrade last week and it was also problematic but after all I had a working system, now this problem popped up...
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> utabak  use rsync -avv --progress ~ [destination]
[16:29] <utabak> MonkeyDust: what is that for??
[16:30] <Mechdave_> utabak, which upgrade was that?
[16:30] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  like tty1 ?  then startx with metacity as windows manager ?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> utabak  backup, i hit enter just when you said something
[16:30] <utabak> Mechdave_: to 12.04
[16:30] <yujadeh> bobweaver: yep
[16:30] <Mechdave_> utabak, from 11.10?
[16:30] <utabak> Mechdave_: yes
[16:31] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  what version of Ubuntu is this  that we are talking about ?
[16:31] <bobweaver> and WM please
[16:31] <bobweaver> gdm lightdm ect
[16:31] <jente> hi, I disabled the onboard sound in favor of a soundblaster live! card. the onboard sound, however, is still the main output device. do I have to delete the info of an onboard sound somewhere or is blacklisting the modules the way to go? setting priorities as mentioned in the wiki did nothing and leave the onboard sound as first device being used
[16:31] <yujadeh> bobweaver: 12.04
[16:31] <Mechdave_> utabak, I always prefer to do a fresh install between versions. Makes for a nicer system. I have always had many problems with dist upgrades :)
[16:32] <utabak> Mechdave_: indeed this is what I will also do from now on, this was not a major problem when I was a Debian fan ;-)
[16:33] <jente> I should mention that I am using the alsa soundsystem
[16:33] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  you have looked also @   sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager      &&   sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[16:33] <Mechdave_> utabak, Lol, Debian is a bit less user friendly though :)
[16:33] <kostkon> jente, plain alsa, without pulse?
[16:33] <yujadeh> bobweaver: nopes, im trying thx
[16:33] <utabak> Mechdave_: yes but these kinds of updates almost went without problems
[16:34] <jente> kostkon: yes, I got lubuntu installed yesterday and just found out that it does not use pulseaudio
[16:34] <bobweaver> yujadeh,  that is kinda the old way of doing it (I think) that is what I do with Debian Hurd