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[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Meta4ical: 32
[09:59] <IndyGunFreak> !ops
[09:59] <techII> im running 64, but there are issues
[10:00] <reinis> DESU DESU
[10:00] <defcon> lame
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Meta4ical: 32 Bit will work fine
[10:00] <defcon> +l it
[10:00] <scotty> what the heck?
[10:00] <kb0rpj-wx> does the server version come with a GUI or only the desktop?
[10:00] <techII> i would use 32, unless there is some reason you need 64
[10:00] <fevel> sh*t
[10:00] <techII> flash player doesn't work under 64, unless you do some work
[10:00] <kitche> !language | fevel
[10:00] <ubotu> fevel: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:00] <fevel> sorry
[10:01] <fevel> was that a cracker ?
[10:01] <techII> hopefully will change with nspluginwrapper (in gutsy)
[10:01] <scotty> What the heck was with that? Like, 30 people sent me a CTCP Request
[10:01] <fevel> nice going op stopped the atack :)
[10:01] <njan> scotty, flood bots.
[10:01] <curare> script kiddie
[10:01] <techII> i would ignore the pms
[10:02] <techII> i think someone just sent everyone /msg s
[10:02] <kkathman> script kiddies with no life obviously
[10:02] <BuddyCarlyle> I'm guessing he would have to register every one of his clones to get the message through.
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Microsoft is getting desperate
[10:02] <kkathman> it wasnt a /msg  it was a CTCP
[10:02] <scotty> I got a CTCP Version request, not a /msg
[10:03] <Ashfire908> they had hit #wikipedia before they hit here
[10:03] <kb0rpj-wx> heres my problem.. i'm a new user to linux in any form.. someone said to try ubuntu and try it.. trying to figure out if i should install desktop or server.. i want to be able to run eggdrop and apache.. but i'd still like a GUI.. so which is best?
[10:03] <Meta4ical> Ok I'll go with 32bit
[10:03] <kitche> kb0rpj-wx: desktop then install waht you need later
[10:03] <fevel> why would one need to drop bots?
[10:04] <fevel> \0/
[10:04] <vox754> kb0rpj-wx, every linux desktop is essentially a server. The transition is easy.
[10:04] <kb0rpj-wx>  kitche : ok i'll try desktop. thanks
[10:04] <BuddyCarlyle> hmm, I didn't know the network allowed ctcp requests from outsiders.  I guess I didn't think the process through.
[10:04] <aioobe> I have the weirdest problem: I can not ssh to localhost. I can ssh to the machine from another host, but not from the host itself.
[10:05] <tupa> what's the best blogging system to be used with apache???
[10:05] <aioobe> I have checked netstat and I think it looks ok.
[10:05] <techII> aioobe: possibly sshd listening on only one interface?
[10:05] <khelll> how can i define a proxy to update ubuntu
[10:06] <aioobe> techII: how do I check that?
[10:06] <techII> i would check /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[10:06] <Ashfire908> where can i find drivers
[10:06] <techII> Ashfire908: for what?
[10:06] <aioobe> techII: no ListenAddress there
[10:06] <techII> no idea then
[10:06] <aioobe> (both default lines commented out)
[10:06] <aioobe> :/
[10:07] <Ashfire908> a motorola v3c
[10:07] <aioobe> techII: you have any netstat command I could run?
[10:07] <dutch> hey all
[10:07] <int21h> i edit my rc.local to automatically start my program but after i rebooted my system its not working, is rc.local is disable?
[10:08] <khelll> how can i define a proxy for the update manager
[10:08] <Ashfire908> cause i connect to the internet through my motorola v3c, and i only can get it to work on windows right now
[10:08] <dutch> if i have gij installed, but i want to use the sun-java6-sdk, how do i tell my system to use it instead of gij?
[10:08] <dutch> i have both installed
[10:08] <WaxyFresh> whats a good program for amkeing DVD with menus?
[10:08] <techII> Ashfire908: i feel your pain
[10:09] <BuddyCarlyle> Jack_Sparrow, newb here;  is it possible to have my single user connection masquerade?
[10:09] <randoman> hey guys if you type 'chroot /chrootdir /usr/sbin/apachectl start" and it loads into the background as "/usr/sbin/apache" that means its not chrooted right?
[10:09] <chalcedony> my friend wants to make his box a dual boot, with ubuntu, is it going to install ok as a dual-boot? what does he need to do?
[10:09] <int21h> i edited my rc.local to automatically start my program but after i rebooted my system its not working, is rc.local is disable?
[10:10] <randoman> chalcedony should have no porblems
[10:10] <kitche> int21h: no but is this program a graphical one or not?
[10:10] <randoman> just install windows first, then ubuntu is the easiest
[10:10] <buntpunt> hey, I need some help... I'm on a laptop with a mobility radeon card, and whenever I try to install the restricted ATi drivers, the box refuses to stay checked off (it doesn't start up synaptic either) any ideas?
[10:10] <randoman> that way ubuntu finds the windows install while seting up dual boot duing install
[10:10] <Ashfire908> techII, you use a cell phone to connect to the internet?
 graphical
[10:11] <techII> I have in the past
[10:11] <ice_cream> tbh, my need for both windows and linux rose; considering buying a new box to have one permanently linux and the other perm. windows...
[10:11] <kitche> int21h: then rc.local won't help you with that anyways
[10:11] <vox754> chalcedony, he needs to repartition the hard drive so he can have unallocated space which can be used with Ubuntu. Another alternative is to try Ubuntu first on a Virtual Machine from within Windows XP.
[10:11] <randoman> so anyone have any ideas to my question?
[10:11] <Ashfire908> you ever get it to work with ubuntu?
[10:11] <ice_cream> dualboot is fun at first, but..
[10:11] <randoman> hey guys if you type 'chroot /chrootdir /usr/sbin/apachectl start" and it loads into the background as "/usr/sbin/apache" that means its not chrooted right?
[10:11] <buntpunt> any ideas on the ati drivers? anyone?
 i want to run the gkrellm automatically
 any solution?
[10:12] <xstasi> randoman, to check if it's chrooted
[10:12] <WaxyFresh> !dvd
[10:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:12] <xstasi> take a look at -> ls -l /proc/pid
[10:12] <xstasi> to what does "root" point
[10:12] <randoman> k
[10:12] <kitche> int21h: when you logout of gnome or whatever your using have it save your session
[10:12] <john_doe> would you recommend an application for unpacking/mounting .aad files? I have tried google but anly seen software that is not a part of the default apt sources.
[10:12] <Burlynn> is there anything like a floating trashcan icon for gnome for the desktop? ive seen some for karamba in kde, anything for gnome?
[10:12] <WaxyFresh> whats a good program for makeing your own dvd with a menu for chooseing chapters/video files?
[10:12] <ice_cream> speaking of gkrellm--  a) has anyone found a truly transparent skin (including borders) or b) has a good alternative idea?
[10:12] <jimmygoon> Can someone recommend a GUI for or an alternative to TrueCrypt?
[10:12] <randoman> humm it doesnt like that command
 nope its not
[10:13] <xstasi> randoman, of course, change "pid" to apache's pid
[10:13] <anthony_> Hi, is it possible to make the gnome panels not "always on top".  Thank you
[10:13] <techII> Burlynn: one that stays on top of windows, or one on the desktop?
[10:13] <randoman> ahhh :P
[10:13] <randoman> thanks
[10:13] <Burlynn> techII, just the desktop
[10:13] <randoman> duch
[10:13] <randoman> duh
[10:13] <WaxyFresh> jimmygoon: if someone tells you can you let me know?
[10:13] <BuddyCarlyle> I guess not,  alrighty I'm outta here.
[10:13] <techII> !trash
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 how?
[10:13] <techII> !list trash
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <WaxyFresh> jimmygoon: ive been looking for one also
[10:13] <jimmygoon> WaxyFresh, sure
[10:13] <Ashfire908> techII, you ever get it to work with ubuntu?
[10:14] <randoman> should it look like this
[10:14] <randoman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2007-07-29 13:13 exe -> /chroot/usr/sbin/apache
[10:14] <techII> no
[10:14] <xstasi> randoman, not that field
[10:14] <randoman> what do i need to look for
[10:14] <thr-> when trying to scan for any wireless connection i get this msg: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[10:14] <xstasi> randoman, "root"
[10:14] <aioobe> techII: Hi... it turns out that I can't even ping localhost (I can ping it from another machine though) any ideas?!?
[10:14] <techII> no
[10:14] <randoman> so this
[10:14] <randoman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2007-07-29 13:13 root -> /chroot
[10:15] <xstasi> randoman, exact
[10:15] <xstasi> congratulations, your apache is jailed
[10:15] <randoman> so its chrooted
[10:15] <randoman> nice
[10:15] <jimmygoon> I could fashion one using gnupg + gui + some sort of archive/folder/drive thing
[10:15] <randoman> sweet thanks
[10:15] <curare> aioobe: you tried to ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:15] <randoman> see im confused, last night it loaded as /chroot/usr/sbin/apache when typing ps aux | grep apache
[10:15] <aioobe> yep
[10:15] <randoman> but now it loads as /usr/sbin/apache
[10:15] <randoman> oh well if its jailed im happy
[10:16] <curare> aioobe: what exactly did you do ? "ping localhost" or "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:16] <jimmygoon> WaxyFresh, there appears to be something called forcefield
[10:16] <techII> does any self-help wizard for ubuntu exist?
[10:16] <randoman> thanks man, i appricate it
[10:16] <aioobe> both... none work.. according to /ets/hosts they are the same anyway
[10:16] <curare> yes they are the same, but just wanted to make sure  ^^
[10:16] <Lilacor> i'm very confused, my sound works fine under flash but when I try to open another file...say music, I get an error telling me that I should install a sound server... sound was working fine until this week... I don't understand
[10:16] <aioobe> heh.. any ideas? this is so weird
[10:17] <BENN92647> WOO!
[10:17] <BENN92647> LINUX RULES!!!!
[10:17] <Happu> whatever
[10:17] <egoleo> is anyone installed exim4 b4
[10:17] <randoman> well that was a damn good learning experince. I think i can chroot anything now
[10:17] <randoman> :P
[10:18] <BENN92647> f'ing wondows wouldnt even connect to my verizon internet...2 minutes and some command line prompts and BAM! im up in LINUX
[10:18] <techII> Burlynn, pres alt-F2, then type "gconf-editor" and hit enter
[10:18] <kitche> randoman: not sure if it works on the newer kernels but jail4 linux is good
[10:18] <Meyvn> hello all, i have uninstalled an application, but the link in the applications menu is still there, how can I remove that? I tried doing a file search for the app in question but couldn't find anything related to a menu item or desktop
[10:18] <curare> aioobe: try    "sudo ifconfig lo0 up"
[10:18] <curare> without quotation marks
[10:18] <randoman> i better remember ls -l  /proc/pid
[10:18] <lufis> Meyvn: right click on the applications button and click "edit menu"
[10:18] <randoman> for sure, ill check it out
[10:18] <BENN92647> I need a WoW person to run me thru setting WoW with wine please
[10:18] <aioobe> curare: no such device
[10:18] <curare> oO
[10:18] <lnxkde> guys
[10:18] <jimmygoon> WaxyFresh, forcefield appears to be decent
[10:18] <techII> Burlynn, then go under apps, then nautilus
[10:18] <aioobe> "lo" worked though
[10:18] <Meyvn> lufis: thanks!
[10:18] <d4rkmonkey> BENN92647, check the wine app database to make sure it will work first
[10:18] <aioobe> ping localhost works now
[10:19] <curare> ;)
[10:19] <lwizardl> Hi
[10:19] <jimmygoon> now, can anyone recommend which encryption to use with my truecrypt volume?
[10:19] <aioobe> ssh localhost aswell
[10:19] <curare> :P
[10:19] <lufis> Meyvn: although uninstallation should remove it automagically...
[10:19] <curare> k problem solved ^^
[10:19] <Lilacor> jimmygoon: blowfish
[10:19] <jimmygoon> Lilacor, thanks
[10:19] <techII> Burlynn, then desktop, after that, check the "trash_icon_visible" key
[10:19] <dutch> BENN92647: im running it perfectly on feisty
[10:19] <lwizardl> anyone using dvdshrink in wine?
[10:19] <aioobe> curare: thx!! now could you PLEASE explain to me what that was about?!
[10:19] <jimmygoon> Lilacor, which hash?
[10:19] <BENN92647> *d4rkmonkey yeah alot of people are playing WoW on linux
[10:19] <dutch> BENN92647: just plug it in, and run the installer with latest wine
[10:19] <Meyvn> lufis: yes, it's now not shown in the application list, but somehow the link to the app is still there
[10:20] <lufis> Meyvn: oh
[10:20] <Lilacor> jimmygoon: that's up to you
[10:20] <d4rkmonkey> BENN92647, ok, I'm not sure but there might be some help http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php it might just be running the installk file in wine
[10:20] <jimmygoon> Lilacor, aight, thanks
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft?action=show&redirect=WorldofWarcraftHowto
[10:20] <BENN92647> *how do i do that do i put in the CD and open wine?
 that should help
[10:20] <d4rkmonkey> BENN92647, follow Meta4ical's link :)
[10:21] <BENN92647> *meta4ical  me love u long time!  will this work for Fiesty too?
[10:21] <barata> hey! anybody uses AMD 64 Turion?
[10:21] <lufis> :o
[10:21] <aioobe> curare: 'lo' is some loopback device right?  I could use a bit of your time :)
[10:22] <Ashfire908> haha! CTCP is OFF
[10:22] <njan> nixternal, beat you to it :)
[10:22] <nixternal> haha
[10:22] <nixternal> my script froze for a second
[10:22] <nixternal> you got it njan :)
 It's easier for you to follow a general guide, ask questions about things you don't understand and let people guide you threw
[10:22] <jimmygoon> lol
[10:22] <PriceChild> ty njan
[10:22] <jimmygoon> well, that was the most exciting thing that happened in the last five minutes
[10:22] <Meta4ical> as opposed to someone practically doing it for you
[10:22] <aroo> wtf was that
[10:22] <njan> PriceChild, np.
[10:22] <crimsun> I bet you it was Rich booting Vista again.
[10:22] <Myrtti> huhhhh
[10:23] <aroo> i got version spammed
[10:23] <crimsun> just blame nixternal for good measure.
[10:23] <phoenixz> Hi there, I am using firefox on linux (kubuntu) What plugin could I use to see PDF files in firefox? I don't want to use adobe reader because that one is slow as hell
[10:23] <Ashfire908> all the bots's nicks were "lulz*
[10:23] <nixternal> muhahaha
[10:24] <Meyvn> what is CTCP? :)
[10:24] <lufis> When I open up a port in firestarter, that's allowing anyone to access anything through that port, correct?
[10:24] <Happu> lufis: if you allow it to anyone
[10:24] <lufis> Happu: does that pose a security risk?
[10:24] <Catsceo> test
[10:24] <Meyvn> lufis: i figured it out, thanks
[10:24] <Catsceo> yay
[10:24] <curare> test successful ;)
[10:24] <lufis> Meyvn: no prob
[10:24] <Ifreeze> phoenixz, i use evince..
[10:24] <mikl> can't someone block channel-wide CTCP's?
[10:24] <Happu> lufis: not likely, it depends what services are you running
[10:25] <lufis> ah
[10:25] <scotty> Fricking floodbots -_-
[10:25] <Happu> lufis: but you shouldn't open ports for fun, just if you need to open it
[10:25] <Meyvn> i wonder why i didn't get kicked
[10:25] <khelll> how can i define a proxy for the update manager
[10:25] <phoenixz> Ifreeze, That one works within firefox too?
[10:25] <lufis> Happu: of course not ;) that's not how i spend my weekends
[10:25] <khelll> ?/
[10:25] <WaxyFresh> !forcefield
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forcefield - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Ifreeze> phoenixz, mzz i dept lets see :D
[10:25] <Happu> lufis: good to hear :D What do you want to open? SSH?
[10:25] <Le_F0u> small question..nofin to do with ubuntu..how can i download all files on a repository?im currently downloading one by one..
[10:26] <Meta4ical> Can anyone have <DeaD_RaVeN> kicked or removed, he is constantly harassing me with the most annoying and vulgar messages
[10:26] <Ifreeze> phoenixz, i see the pdf file i click on the link and it ask save or open with pdf reader..
[10:26] <rechercher> for fglrx do i need to downgrade my kernel?
[10:26] <curare> Le_F0u: what kind of repository ?
[10:26] <vox754> Meta4ical, you may contact one of the operators
[10:26] <lufis> Happu: well sometimes irc is very slow and i wanted to see if opening the irc port would help at all (i know it's connecting to a remote machine but you never know?) and plus various bittorrent ports need to be opened for dht, etc.
[10:26] <rechercher> apparently ati's fglrx doesnt support 2.6.20 yet
[10:27] <Le_F0u> curare from the hyperion svn repository
[10:27] <Ifreeze> phoenixz, http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince/
[10:27] <techII> that guy seems to be smaping everyone
[10:27] <Meta4ical> techII: who?
[10:27] <techII> dead raven
[10:27] <techII> *spaming
[10:27] <Happu> lufis: well bittorrents are safe to open IMO. Not sure about all the irc ports. As long as you aren't using irc as root, you should not have to worry :)
[10:27] <lufis> Happu: ok, thanks :)
[10:27] <curare> Le_F0u: svn checkout URL... [PATH]
[10:28] <kitche> techII: not hard to just ignore him like I did
[10:28] <Happu> lufis: np :)
[10:28] <Le_F0u> ok ill try curare
[10:28] <techII> yes, and don't respond to him (for everyone else)
[10:28] <vox754> kitche, techII still, if he is in the Ubuntu channel, he should follow the code of conduct or else. Call the ops.
[10:29] <kitche> vox754: ops can't do much to someone pming you
[10:29] <PriceChild> techII, kitche vox754 is this a join on spammer kind of thing?
[10:29] <curare> this evening sucks =( i managed to damage my os x installation =(
[10:29] <Le_F0u> curare can i pm u?
[10:29] <kitche> PriceChild: he's been in here before the spamming but probably one of them
[10:29] <curare> sure
[10:29] <Le_F0u> thx
[10:31] <kitche> PriceChild: but sicne I ignored him I haven't got anything from him and he's been umuted for a while from my list
[10:31] <WaxyFresh> ijust started forcefield and it dosent show any volumes,whats wrong?
[10:33] <Dex-Freudii> i have problems with permissions accessing USB devices
[10:33] <Dex-Freudii>  how can I solve them?
[10:34] <Ashfire908> has anyone here ever connected to the internet using a cell phone on ubunut?
[10:36] <techII> Ashfire908: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CableDialup
[10:36] <djgop> hey
[10:36] <Dex-Freudii> i have problems with permissions accessing USB devices
[10:36] <djgop> I installed ubuntu on my pc, but everything works execpt for sound
[10:36] <techII> my phone showed up as /dev/ttyACM0 as in the guide
[10:36] <boris_> heya people
[10:36] <BlackBeltCeb> djgop, what sound card do you have?
[10:37] <djgop> I get no volume control gstreamer plugins
[10:37] <djgop> how do I tell which I have
[10:37] <djgop> I am unsure
[10:37] <BlackBeltCeb> did you ever run windows on your pc?
[10:37] <techII> Ashfire908: note that the settings are probably different for different phones
[10:37] <strav_> hi! out of curiosity I've recently been comparing different server's architectures for enterprise installations (mainly, NT, linux kernel 2.6.x, open solaris, bsds, beos and such) and was kinda disturbed by the lack of any rather objective and up-to-date benchmarks measuring the "low-level"-kernel-related system calls. While we could argue that raw performance is only on side of the medal, I think a site dedicated to provide such benchmarks
[10:37] <djgop> I see platform device
[10:37] <snipex> i have currently got dapper ubuntu installed and i got ISO img of kubuntu feisty, is it possible to make update ?
[10:38] <crimsun> strav_: google for systemtap
[10:38] <crimsun> strav_: start there and spider out for syscall evals.
[10:38] <strav_> encourage collaboration as well as competition amongst OSs, I wonder why such a thing cannot be found?
[10:38] <strav_> crimsun: thanks, was pretty shure I didn't searched well enough
[10:39] <djgop> msg nickserv identify 23jd23
[10:39] <emile> ouch
[10:39] <PriceChild> djgop, please choose a different password
[10:39] <WaxyFresh> BlackBeltCeb: I had that virus once
[10:39] <techII> heh
[10:39] <PriceChild> djgop, use the server tab when typing your password.
[10:39] <djgop> I made a mistake PriceChild
[10:40] <djgop> sorry
[10:40] <BlackBeltCeb> what virus?
[10:40] <PriceChild> djgop, don't be sorry to me... you just told everyone your password ;)
[10:40] <curare> strav_: you could also do a benchmark using openssl speed test ;)
[10:40] <Anlar> djgop: PriceChild NEVER forgives! :)
[10:41] <techII> im surprised that one of the scriptkiddies hasn't tried to ghost your account yet
[10:41] <Anlar> strav_: you are quite correct on that one, they do not seem to exist. and I doubt any ported tests really do any good since those ports are generally shoddy.
[10:41] <eboyjr> How can I mount a vdi file ("/root/.VirtualBox/VDI/Windows XP Pro.vdi") to "/vwin"?
[10:42] <shelia_> I want to download Frostwire in my computer, but I am not sure how to do this I am new to ubuntu. Can anyone help?
[10:42] <BENN92647> WOO!!!!
[10:42] <djgop> how do I tell what sound card I have
[10:42] <PriceChild> !frostwire | shelia_
[10:42] <ubotu> shelia_: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:42] <strav_> curare: I have a set of pretty light C libs to perform these tests (the ones used by a guy 2003) that I would compile and run on different systems still, I hardly believe it isn't done on a daily basis by some ppl.
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> is there a native bittorrent client that has scheduling (like utorrent?)
[10:42] <BENN92647> ok no more of that
[10:42] <d4rkmonkey> shelia_, its really easy, I think frostwire might even have a .deb available
[10:42] <shelia_> deb?
[10:42] <Anlar> djgop: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:43] <d4rkmonkey> shelia_, one second, I'll give you more direct help
[10:43] <andrew__> anyone have any idea why windows disappear when i minimize them? IE they dont show up in the panel
[10:43] <PriceChild> shelia_, please read the instructions from the guide ubotu gave you
[10:43] <Anlar> strav_: what libs and tests?
[10:43] <techII> sheila_, go to frostwire.com, and follow through to get the download
[10:43] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, I have given shelia_ the official ubuntu documentation on frostwire
[10:43] <curare> strav_: ok, openssl benchmarks are kinda heavy weight :)
[10:43] <Silva> Hi, Whats the name of the file I need to edit to fix my resolution? and whats the command to edit it please? :)
[10:43] <Pici> andrew__: Do you have the window list applet on the panel?
[10:43] <PriceChild> !fixre | Silva
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <techII> then double click on it
[10:43] <__david> hello, I'm having a really savage problem: my f_ keys won't work when I hold other modifiers down.  I.E. alt-f4, shift-f9...none of them work!  What could be the problem?
[10:43] <PriceChild> !fixres | Silva
[10:43] <ubotu> Silva: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:43] <strav_> Anlar, I've glanced at the methodology done by this guy: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/
[10:43] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, ok then, didn't notice that was gonna send him to actual frostwire site which has a Ubuntu download on the main page
[10:43] <shelia_> thank you pricechild
[10:43] <Silva> PriceChild: ty
[10:44] <techII> shelia_, though the official guide probably has information about setting up repositories (automatic updates)
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> __david: what keymap are you using?
[10:44] <andrew__> Pici, nope, that fixed it
[10:44] <djgop> when i do that command cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:44] <djgop> nothing show up
[10:44] <__david> dvorak, at the moment
[10:44] <andrew__> thanks, its my little brother's machine, dunno why he removed that
[10:44] <djgop> thiern o dir
[10:44] <djgop> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[10:44] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, that guide does the same, but has several "if you see this, fix it by..." things
[10:44] <pirving> has anybody still not tried berl?
[10:44] <pirving> beryl
[10:44] <PriceChild> pirving, #ubuntu-effects
[10:44] <d4rkmonkey> PriceChild, yeah, community docs are generally better, just didn't notice that you gave him the link :)
[10:44] <PriceChild> d4rkmonkey, its all good :)
[10:45] <BlackBeltCeb> I tried beryl, it made me dizzy
[10:45] <andrew__> i was just about to ask about beryl... i understand its not being developed anymore, what should i install instead?
[10:45] <__david> fyrestrtr: i've been switching keymaps a lot the past week..I have dvorak now, but i've used english and turkish too
[10:45] <strav_> Anlar, and it seems pretty fair. the libs he used  are design to make simple syscalls while not creating some overhead by themselves.
[10:45] <techII> compiz-fusion replaced beyrl and compiz
[10:45] <__david> fyrestrtr: also, sometimes "alt" seems to get stuck
[10:45] <concept10> is there an official ubuntu windows installer (not wubi)
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> andrew__: compizfusion, but please #ubuntu-effects
[10:45] <urie1> hey question
[10:45] <Pici> concept10: Nope.
[10:45] <techII> it is supposed to be in gutsy
[10:45] <eboyjr> How can I mount a vdi file ("/root/.VirtualBox/VDI/Windows XP Pro.vdi") to "/vwin"? Is it even possible?
[10:45] <PriceChild> andrew__, feisty comes with compiz, system > preferences > desktop effects, but please ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:45] <pirving> well, it's latest incarnation is good at hiding stuff from your boss
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> __david: stuck? like it won't toggle?
[10:45] <pirving> and wiggle windows
[10:45] <PriceChild> concept10, no
[10:45] <djgop> I get this error
[10:45] <djgop> alsamixer
[10:45] <djgop> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[10:45] <concept10> PriceChild: so wubi is the only one?
[10:46] <__david> fyrestrtr: i.e. I hit alt-drag to move a window, and then alt doesn't release when I release the key.  I have to hit alt again to register the keyrelease
[10:46] <__david> .
[10:46] <PriceChild> concept10, yes, and it is not officially supported. I strongly advise you install the "real way"... /msg ubotu install
[10:46] <Anlar> strav_: fork umm.. I don't know about that one.. but I guess you could test that out, you'd just for all fairness have to use the direct windows api calls instead of some posix layer or cygwin for everything.. and visual studio for compiling
[10:46] <concept10> PriceChild: the official installers will not boot my system
[10:46] <strav_> Anlar, (sorry my friend spilled some sprite on my keyboard and until replacement, I'll be typing quite slow)
[10:46] <urie1> when i run beryl and want to move to the terminal with alt+ctrl+f1 and than i do alt+ctrl+f7 i can return and  all i see is a black screen and my mouse and that it
[10:46] <urie1> how can i fix it ?
[10:46] <PriceChild> concept10, none of them?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> __david: there is an option in keyboard settings (somewhere, can't recall now) that makes the alt, super, ctrl keys 'sticky' -- maybe you enabled that by mistake?
[10:47] <Denon_> hi all, im trying to control my cpu fan via pwnconfig and fancontrol. when i run pwnconfig it runs through a range of fan settings from 3000 to 600, my problem is even if i set my config file the slowest i can get my fans to run at is 2000
[10:47] <Pici> urie1: #ubuntu-effects for compiz issues pleaes.
[10:47] <kitche> strav_: just unplug the keyboard wash it with water and let it dry for 24hours
[10:47] <PriceChild> concept10, the alternate installer should boot whatever...
[10:47] <Anlar> strav_: but if that was done, that'd be something yeah.
[10:47] <KIO> hi! new in here, i need a little help with steam
[10:47] <WaxyFresh> whats a good program for makeing dvd?i need one that will allow me to create a menu for choseing difrent visdoe files?
[10:48] <__david> fyrestrtr: I have all the defaults in the keyboard preferences, and that still doesn't explain why alt-f4 doesn't work
[10:48] <concept10> PriceChild: I guess I should try alternative again, the regular install has issues with my nvidia card and motherboard intell p965 sata chipset
[10:48] <strav_> Anlar, of course, I'll be natively compiling those on each target arch... and indeed they might now apply correctly on windows. But really, such stats haven't seen the light since 2003 at best?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> __david: you got me.
[10:48] <PriceChild> concept10, if the alternate installer has "issues"... wubi is going to be a no hope on trying to troubleshoot
[10:48] <Anlar> strav_: most of the tests I have seen in last couple years have been synthetic and have measured something the very high level applications do.. like serving web pages etc..
[10:49] <] RandoM[> anybody familiar with this: i have deluge-torrent installed.. when i try to double click on a torrent file i downloaded or try to open it directly in firefox deluge opens and doesn't actually load the torrent.. i have to open deluge and click 'add' and find the torrent on my local machine to open it.. i had it installed before and i didn't have to do this..
[10:49] <Das> Hello, all. If you could take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3101211#post3101211  it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you all for your expertise
[10:49] <strav_> kitche, I used a special solvant/oil for electronics that melt the rubber below the keys, I have to replace it now ;)
[10:49] <__david> fyrestrtr: the same problem happens with my other window managers
[10:49] <eboyjr> How can I mount a vdi file ("/root/.VirtualBox/VDI/Windows XP Pro.vdi") to "/vwin"? Is it even possible? I heard something about a fuse layer? What's that?
[10:49] <kitche> strav_: well don't use solvant/oil next time :)
[10:49] <__david> i'm going to try a reboot...maybe that will fix it.  (the first reboot since i got this computre a month ago)
[10:49] <Anlar> strav_: instead of w2k3/xp, taht'd be nice if that was done against Vista Business. (or ultimate) NOT home or home premium, they might not have similar kernel etc.. those home versions are not really meant to be used by anyone
[10:49] <Anlar> strav_: that'd be first
[10:50] <techII> WaxyFresh, i just found something called qdvdauthor in the gutsy repositories, don't know what it does, or if it is in feisty
[10:50] <wousser>  /msg nickserv link wousser winbillk
[10:50] <Anlar> strav_: because I have seen so far NO real good benchmarks of vista. and, I'd like to see one more benchmark actually
[10:50] <vox754> yey wousser free password
[10:50] <PriceChild> wousser, please change your password.
[10:51] <techII> a lot of that today...
[10:51] <Anlar> strav_: something that measures how effectively the OS can delete files randomly. if you test that linux/bsds vs vista, you will get VERY surprising results I promise
[10:51] <strav_> Anlar, yes but I don't care much about high level apps. Let's say I wanna measure the groundings for top-level applications. Of course, enterprise use and end-user use are two different thing and such benchs will have to take this into account.
[10:51] <Leftmost> What application does the basic Ubuntu install use for controlling volume on laptops with volume keys?
[10:52] <Anlar> strav_: yes, the idea is valid and good!
[10:52] <WaxyFresh> y
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> Leftmost: that's a feature of gnome.
[10:52] <WaxyFresh> y
[10:52] <Leftmost> What part of GNOME? I'm not aware of how to configure it on other distros.
[10:52] <Anlar> strav_: if you even take all the handles ready.. say 20 000 files, handles on table.. and just iterate through it and ask for the file to be deleted on lowest possible level.. vista will be some 5x slower than any bsd or linux
[10:53] <vox754> strav_, Anlar isn't that off topic? (It is not support)
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> Leftmost: system > admin > keyboard shortcuts
[10:53] <techII> Leftmost, "gnome-keybinding-properties"
[10:54] <Anlar> strav_: that is a building block mmkay as well :) and it's true, not just measured properly so far
[10:54] <Leftmost> Ahh, alright. Thank you.
[10:54] <weltall> sorry were is libstc++.a?
[10:54] <shelia_> should I save Frostwire to the firefox desktop or GDebi Package, or other?
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> Leftmost: mine were filled in, but ibms have special packages for those
[10:54] <PriceChild> shelia_, gdebi
[10:54] <weltall> i've the dynamic ones but the static?
[10:55] <strav_> Anlar, yes, I've read a study on file systems behaviors and indeed, lots of factors have to be considered (journaled fs vs softupdates and all the optimizations and contexts (raid levels etc))
[10:55] <shelia_> even if it says GDebi Package Installer (default)?
[10:55] <PriceChild> shelia_, do that one
[10:56] <shelia_> ok thnx pricechild I apologize for bein so aggravatin, I am new to this and am tryin to learn it
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> does anyone have recommendations on a bittorrent client that has built-in scheduling (ala utorrent or azureus) but one that is linux-native.
[10:56] <Anlar> strav_: just take something very default from each family. it doesn't matter. one of them will be extraordinaly slow on moving and deleting :)
[10:57] <techII> azureus is java
[10:57] <DavidHKMrPowers> how to remove highlights from a search in vim?
[10:57] <PriceChild> fyrestrtr, azureus works fine on ubuntu...
[10:57] <BENN92647> can someone explain to me why my wireless internet is working but port eth0 is not?
[10:57] <techII> thus cross platform
[10:57] <radoen> hi weltall
[10:57] <Anlar> fyrestrtr: there is a "native" linux version of azureus as well, thanks to the "geniuses" that made gcj, and it just plain sucks.
[10:57] <jimmygoon> What options should I use to mount my volume so that a regular user can write to it
[10:57] <weltall> hi redeon
[10:57] <Curley_Sue> Hi all, does anyone know how to compare two workbooks (of spreadsheets)? (using two identifiers per line, for example)
[10:58] <BENN92647> my fear is that LINUX loves to undo everything you do as soon s you log off
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> PriceChild: i was hoping something like Deluge.
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> but damn it it doesn't have a calendar plugin.
[10:58] <BENN92647> and my wireless is working and i dont want to lose it
[10:58] <DShepherd> fyrestrtr, i dont know if deluge has built-in scheduling but its my favourite bittorent.
[10:58] <shelia_> pricechild it is telling me to use a later version in the software channel what do I do now?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> DShepherd: it doesn't :(
[10:58] <jimmygoon> BENN92647, what do you mean "undo it"?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> using it right now.
[10:58] <yosyp> hey guys..
[10:58] <radoen> weltall are you the same weltall that spend all the noght whit the c pointer of a psp program?
[10:59] <DShepherd> fyrestrtr, i am using right now too :-)  sorry though
[10:59] <radoen> *night
[10:59] <weltall> stfu radoen
[10:59] <yosyp> i can't boot ubuntu
[10:59] <yosyp> there's a problem with grub
[10:59] <yosyp> i booted DSL and mounted my root partiton
[10:59] <shelia_> what is a software channel?
[10:59] <BENN92647> *jimmygoon it unmounts my devices and sound all the time...i dont want it to "unmount" my wireless internet conncetion
[10:59] <yosyp> when I try to cd /boot
[10:59] <strav_> Anlar,Aside from those details, my main interest is, in time, as I'm planning to run such bench in order to plan a server/network architecture the best as I can, to publish and perhaps update the results I get as dev goes on... Of course, if and only if I am certain this is not already done so far. (which is mainly why I'm asking... would be stupid that it would have been a lack of googleing)
[10:59] <yosyp> it tells me that it's not a directory
[10:59] <yosyp> wtf?
[10:59] <khatuido> how mount a usb hard disk?
[10:59] <H0trick> hi all
[11:00] <BENN92647> ho hottrick
[11:00] <H0trick> lo
[11:00] <BENN92647> LOL HI!
[11:00] <wastedfluid> Wanted to grab some help if you guys could.  Earlier today, my box w/ ubuntu 6.06LTS's webserver, + ssh no longer worked.. I kept getting a lot of "Buffer space" errors.  Well, now the SSH and webserver are not working again.. any clues at all how to fix this?
[11:00] <kitche> yosyp: are you chrooted in you might be cding to dsl /boot
[11:00] <H0trick> anybody running ubuntu server 7.04?
[11:00] <Anlar> strav_: the bsd's and linuxes etc have been beaten to death. no one has benchmarked the windows on level playfield in years
[11:00] <jimmygoon> BENN92647, mounting is only done to HD's and cameras, etc, not to sound cards or wireless settings, if you are on a live disc then those settings are lost after a reboot, but if you have it installed that can't and shouldn't happen unless you have changed file permissions on the /
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> wastedfluid: how is the disk space?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> H0trick: I am.
[11:00] <techII> shelia_, ubuntu uses "software channels" or "repositories" to find packages to install (synaptic package manager) and for updates
[11:00] <BENN92647> how do i check that
[11:01] <wastedfluid> fyrestrtr; it's a VPS; 20gb allocated, over 10gb free
[11:01] <H0trick> fyrestrtr : is ssh disabled out of the box?
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> H0trick: yes.
[11:01] <H0trick> i see...
[11:01] <jimmygoon> BENN92647, lets just say that you didn't, because unless you meant to, you didn't :)
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> wastedfluid: 'buffer space' seems to me /tmp is overrun -- or -- memory issues.
[11:01] <H0trick> grrrrr now i have to go to the machine
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> H0trick: apt-get install openssh-server
[11:01] <BENN92647> when i am assigning ports can i do a string of ports by typing 1664-1999?
[11:01] <jimmygoon> BENN92647, if you had, you PC wouldn't even boot....
[11:02] <H0trick> k fyrestrtr and thanks brb
[11:02] <BENN92647> /jimmygoon well i lose sound all the time, that is why i am neverous about the internet
[11:02] <__david> fyrestrtr: A reboot solved it.  It's too bad I don't know the cause, tho
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> so no other option than azureus? that thing runs like molassess.
[11:03] <twosouls82> fyrestrtr:  try deluge
[11:03] <strav_> Anlar, yes they have been tested but I feel there's a lack of updates. If the best comparison (say linux vs bsds) I can get dates from 2003 I think any bsd/linux kernel dev wouldn't care about these. (and of course, yes there's a big gap concerning windows, solaris and some other minorities)
[11:03] <jimmygoon> BENN92647, if you are "losing" sound you are probably muting it or something
[11:03] <__david> fyrestrtr: did you use the azureus from aptitude, or did you download the sun-java one from azureus's website
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> twosouls82: I *am* but it doesn't have a scheduling plugin.
[11:03] <__david> the latter is better, by far
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> __david: I haven't tainted my system with java yet.
[11:04] <__david> fyrestrtr: it's oss now!
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> that doesn't make it any faster.
[11:04] <twosouls82> fyrestrtr: ktorrent has it, and loads more, it is a KDE apps, though :)
[11:04] <__david> fyrestrtr: sun java with azureus is much better. It actually works
[11:04] <BENN92647> *pricechild i copied all the disks in the folder and when i type cd /wowfolder/ it says no such directory?
[11:04] <__david> fyrestrtr: the gcj impl. is kind of weak, imo.  It also lacks many of the impt. plugins.
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> I'll put up with some kde libs than install azureus.
[11:04] <Anlar> strav_: when the linux devs change things they compare subjectively themselves, so they know where they area heading... so, interesting.. but not really for them.
[11:05] <boyam> !dvd
[11:05] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:05] <ShackJack> fyrestrtr: Looking for bittorrent? Deluge is pretty decent and GNOME-native
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> *sigh*
[11:05] <twosouls82> ShackJack: :D
[11:05] <BENN92647> I love you Ubotu
[11:05] <__david> fyrestrtr: I don't know what kind of network you're on, but for me, on my college network, azureus's encryption, peerguardian, and dht are impt. to not getting caught.  If that's a concern for you, don't forget it.
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> ubotu: botsnack
[11:05] <ubotu> Yum!  After using my newly installed Ubuntu for a few days I've started seeing an error message after installing packages with Synaptic. The packages still seem to install fine, but I get "E: mayavi: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127" in a popup after the install scripts run. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
[11:06] <__david> lol
[11:07] <__david> Wilbur31337: that's b/c you tried to install a package that failed to complete installing
[11:07] <BENN92647> ok so now I ned dclarifacation:  in the directions for installing World of Warcraft it says do this cd /<path-to-directory>/  wine Installer.exe
[11:07] <shelia_> thank you techil, I will try that
[11:07] <BENN92647> but it wont work
[11:07] <kang_> hello everyone, just testing
[11:07] <jodih> Hi guys
[11:07] <strav_> Anlar, you think of a place I can ask where I could get help for setting things as most objective as possible? (and yea this isn't planned for the devs (but still could suggest them to look elsewhere)... perhaps giving a good insight on performance could help the end-users (other consideration aside ie.: security, etc) in choosing a system that suits their needs)
[11:07] <Happu> fyrestrtr: running torrent under wine isn't an option?
[11:07] <__david> Wilbur31337: You have a few options.  You can fix the error with the package's installation, or you can remove the package
[11:07] <H0trick> fyrestrtr : thanks! know anything about how i get my resolution higher ?
[11:07] <BENN92647> its easdy
[11:07] <__david> Wilbur31337: the latter is easier. Use this command: "sudo aptitude purge mayavi"
[11:07] <BENN92647> changing res is easy
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> H0trick: are you headless?
[11:08] <Happu> !x / H0trick
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x / h0trick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <__david> Wilbur31337: the error will then disappear (but mayavi will not be installed)
[11:08] <H0trick> no i am not
[11:08] <d4rkmonkey> !x | H0trick
[11:08] <ubotu> H0trick: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> !fixres | H0trick
[11:08] <BENN92647> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy go her and you will find the answer
[11:08] <H0trick> thanks
[11:08] <BENN92647> it works for fiesty too
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> H0trick: I also make sure !framebuffer is working
[11:09] <H0trick> yeah i need a framebuffer
[11:09] <Eltran> hey, is there a Nokia PC Suite alternative for linux ?
[11:09] <Wilbur31337> David, thank you very much for the help.
[11:09] <jodih> can somebody reccomend a mail server to receive mail for my domain but to forward it all to a second server inside my network with no mailboxes on the first server
[11:09] <BENN92647> ok someone help me install WoW please the directions are working
[11:09] <radius> quick question, i'm in the middle of an upgrade from breezy to the latest - i have got past dapper upgrade no prob - now i'm upgrading to edgy - and i get a stop error on this ->> statoverride couldn't be created for /var/cache/spampd - any help would be appreciated - thanks
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> Eltran: what do you want to do exactly? Synchronize, install apps, or update the firmware?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> BENN92647: if they are working, what's the problem? :)
[11:10] <wastedfluid> what are the ways to try to find out why my openssh server on ubuntu keeps "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[11:10] <upro> Hi! Someone there to help my with a alsa/timidity problem?
[11:10] <madman91> is there a command that will execute the next screen window once the current screen window has silence?
[11:10] <ShackJack> !ask | upro
[11:10] <ubotu> upro: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:10] <BENN92647> *fyrestrtr its not working i cant get it to install
[11:11] <ShackJack> BENN92647: Might check out #winhq for wine help...
[11:11] <BENN92647> you tell em ubotu
[11:11] <upro> ShackJack, When I start timidity I get: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[11:11] <upro> Can't open pcm device 'default'.
[11:11] <upro> Couldn't open ALSA pcm device (`s')
[11:11] <BENN92647> you dont wanna make the bot mad *smile*
[11:11] <upro> I start it liek this: timidity -iA -B2,8 -Os1l -s 44100
[11:12] <Eltran> is there a way to use the nokia n91 as a modem on linux please ?
[11:12] <techII> ShackJack, you mean automatically?
[11:12] <ShackJack> !sound | upro (check this out... or you might have better luck on #alsa channel)
[11:12] <ubotu> upro (check this out... or you might have better luck on #alsa channel): If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:12] <ShackJack> techII: Eh?
[11:12] <techII> or just how to make a new terminal?
[11:12] <Eltran> fyrestrtr : sorry im lagging hard : I want to use it to connect on internet.
[11:12] <nosound> Hi all! Im having real trouble getting my sound to work... I get this error when testing...
[11:12] <nosound> http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgnomesoundprotf3.png
[11:12] <nosound> (I hope its OK to post my screenshot by using imageshack... else give me a proper alternative)
[11:12] <nosound> Anyway... I cant troubleshoot this... have tried... help needed... please!!!
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> upro: sounds like ssh is not running on port 22
[11:12] <ShackJack> !enter | nosound
[11:12] <ubotu> nosound: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:12] <techII> don't think screen can be scripted, but i wouldn't know
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Eltran: you don't need the suite for that, there are ways to do that from within linux.
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> Eltran: try the forums.
[11:13] <techII> ctrl+a then c to make a new terminal
[11:13] <ShackJack> techII: I think you mean to address Shack?
[11:13] <strav_> hmm. Sounds good so far that I haven't been pointed out to something like benchOs.com and such. I'll keep the idea.
[11:13] <Ashfire908> techII
[11:13] <Eltran> fyrestrtr : what can I do to use it for the internet ?
[11:13] <upro> ShackJack, the defyult is alsa... Anyhow, the main proble is, that I can't use my midi keyboard in zynaddsubfx
[11:13] <Eltran> ok thanks fyrestrtr
[11:13] <strav_> (as I'm tired to type on sticky lousy keyboard)
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> Eltran: you hook it up via bluetooth, then use it as a modem with wvdial
[11:14] <Ashfire908> techII, i followed the instrustions, and it connected, but firefox wouldn't load anything
[11:14] <SoulinEther> where are default configuration files kept for new users when they are created, ie, Xfce or Firefox?
[11:14] <Jaszbo> Can someone tell me of a good client to view web cams with for ubuntu?
[11:14] <ShackJack> upro: Hi - I can't help you, personally, but see tips above for troubleshooting and dedicated #alsa channel...
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> SoulinEther: in ~
[11:14] <strav_> so long and thanks for the concern (anlar)
[11:14] <techII> Ashfire908, same happened to me
[11:14] <ShackJack> SoulinEther: Under their /home dir in various hidden subdirectories...
[11:14] <upro> fyrestrtr, what do you keam? How can i find out on which prt ssh is running?
[11:14] <techII> i think it might have something to do with dns
[11:14] <SoulinEther> ShackJack: no, i mean like /etc/skel
[11:14] <upro> ShackJack, thanks, I'll try #alsa...
[11:15] <techII> but i don't know anything about ppp
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> upro: ssh runs on port 22, but sometimes people run it on non-standard ports to avoid ssh dos style attacks. For example, on my servers ssh runs on 222
[11:15] <eboyjr> What's the difference between gksu|gksudo and su|sudo?
[11:15] <kanuha> need help deleting a directory and file in trash. I created downloaded a file and extracted the files to a directory I created. When no longer needed I deleted the directory with files in it. Now I can't delete it from the trash. It says I don't have permissions.
[11:15] <upro> fyrestrtr, where do I find out which port ssh uses?
[11:15] <eboyjr> I mean whats the difference between su and sudo?
[11:15] <ShackJack> SoulinEther: Dunno, you might have better luck in GNOME or XCFE channel ;)
[11:15] <gnomefreak> !root | eboyjr
[11:15] <ubotu> eboyjr: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:15] <upro> fyrestrtr, /etc/services confirms ssh on port 22...
[11:16] <Pricey> eboyjr, gksudo is for graphical applications
[11:16] <gnomefreak> eboyjr: please read link given by ubotu
[11:16] <klobster> hey how does kubuntu handle runlevels? I have multiuser modes 2-5; which one should I have start kdm?
[11:16] <H0trick> try /etc/sshd_config
[11:16] <klobster> what is the difference between them?
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> eboyjr: su = switch user (gksu is what you use when you have X running). sudo (switch user do) gksudo is the equivalent when you have X running. sudo needs to be installed (its a separate program) while su is standard.
[11:16] <H0trick> it will tell you the port ssh runs on
[11:16] <Ashfire908> techII, you think i shuold do raw ip?
[11:16] <Pricey> eboyjr, it can help prevent problems... see http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> upro: that only tells you what the standard ports are.
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> on my machine, /etc/services also tells me 22 for ssh, but my server runs on 222
[11:17] <Wilbur31337> su switches you into superuser mode to run commands, sudo just runs the command with superuser rights.
[11:17] <radius> how do i get rid of this error in the middle of my upgrade in edgey please - Warning: statoverride couldn't be created for /etc/spampd.conf
[11:17] <H0trick> upro : /etc/sshd_config
[11:17] <upro> fyrestrtr, so where to find this out?
[11:17] <techII> Ashfire908, i don't have a clue, i haven't tried specifying dns servers manually yet
[11:17] <nosound> ShackJack: sorry for multiple lines... but can anyone assist me with this error: http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgnomesoundprotf3.png
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> Wilbur31337: actually, su can switch to any user, not just super user.
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> Wilbur31337: if I am root, I can su yourusername
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> Wilbur31337: and if I am fyrestrtr, and I know your password, I can su yourusername
[11:17] <Wilbur31337> fyre, lol, I was just typing that in.  :-D
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> upro: are you trying to connect to your own ssh server?
[11:18] <KiloByte> men
[11:18] <KiloByte> who can help me?
[11:18] <KiloByte>  with installing UBUNTU?
[11:18] <clever_> fyrestrtr: with 'sudo -u fyrestrtr -i' i can get a shell in your name by providing MY password
[11:18] <ShackJack> !enter | KiloByte
[11:18] <ubotu> KiloByte: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:18] <clever_> fyrestrtr: but i need to be in the admin group with ubuntu
[11:18] <upro> fyrestrtr, not that I knew...
[11:18] <ShackJack> !install | KiloByte
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> clever_: only if I let you ;)
[11:19] <clever_> fyrestrtr: 's default config
[11:19] <ubotu> KiloByte: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:19] <KiloByte> !install
[11:19] <clever_> fyrestrtr: with the default ubuntu config any1 in the admin group can run anything as anybody
[11:19] <ShackJack> KiloByte: See above ^^ ;)
[11:19] <KiloByte> how can i install iy without running a live CD?
[11:19] <radius> is the bot doing all the work today?
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> aint that neighbourly
[11:19] <Twigathy> wwww
[11:19] <ShackJack> !alternate | KiloByte
[11:19] <ubotu> KiloByte: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:19] <radius> where are the experts with advice
[11:20] <ShackJack> radius: My motto is "let the computer do the work" :)
[11:20] <curare> that's what they're build for ^^
[11:20] <radius> true but where is a human when you need it
[11:20] <techII> KiloByte, some type of network install possibly
[11:20] <ShackJack> radius: No sense in repeating oneself for basic info like that - no "expert advice" required...
[11:21] <radius> guess my question remains unanswered?
[11:21] <ShackJack> radius: Which was?
[11:21] <techII> or transplanting a hard drive
[11:21] <radius> how do i get rid of this error in the middle of my upgrade in edgey please - Warning: statoverride couldn't be created for /etc/spampd.conf
[11:21] <radius> and above
[11:21] <radius> quick question, i'm in the middle of an upgrade from breezy to the latest - i have got past dapper upgrade no prob - now i'm upgrading to edgy - and i get a stop error on this ->> statoverride couldn't be created for /var/cache/spampd - any help would be appreciated - thanks
[11:22] <kanuha> help! I deleted a directory with files and now cannot get it out of my trash. It says I don't have permissions.
[11:22] <Jowi> radius, i
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> radius: one guess - that package doesn't exist anymore.
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> radius: try removing it and continuing.
[11:22] <radius> no it's still there
[11:22] <radius> tried that
[11:22] <radius> no go
[11:23] <fyrestrtr> what is that anyway?
[11:23] <radius> spampd
[11:23] <Jowi> radius, i've no luck upgrading multiple versions in one go, especially breezy -> edgy was tough. i needed to remove openoffice and re-install several apps for no reason it seemed.
[11:23] <Tokeiito> good evening. does courier-maildrop packade is with --enable-mysql option?
[11:23] <radius> this is a server
[11:23] <radius> i did breezy to dapper - that worked fine
[11:23] <ShackJack> radius: That's a tough one - I usually do fresh install and have  my home on separate partition so it's a breeze :)
[11:24] <radius> well fresh install is not an option here unfortunately
[11:24] <snowman> ok, I'll bite.  I've got grub back after repartitioning and installing xp, but how do I get xp on that menu?
[11:24] <radius> i checked a few weeks back and as long as i followed the upgrade path there should not be any glitches
[11:25] <Jowi> !info spampd breezy
[11:25] <ubotu> spampd: spamassassin based SMTP/LMTP proxy daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.30-15 (feisty), package size 53 kB, installed size 212 kB
[11:25] <kitche> Jowi: well the breezy info is no logner around sicne the repos no longer exist for it
[11:25] <KiloByte> help me men i cant run Linux from CD it lags and mouse laggss very muxh its difficutlt to mov it nad i cant eneter to a  desktop
[11:25] <vox754> snowman, there is this utility called "update-grub" or "grub-update" which does the job. You may add the lines yourself, just browse the forums.
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> radius: seems to be a known issue : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spampd/+bug/69595
[11:25] <ShackJack> !grub | snowman (this might help)
[11:25] <ubotu> snowman (this might help): grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:25] <radius> ok thanks fyrestrtr
[11:25] <wousser> kilobyte: use the alternative install cd
[11:26] <Jowi> kitche, at least it exist for feisty
[11:26] <KiloByte> how?
[11:26] <KiloByte> to use it?
[11:26] <snowman> ShackJack: that's what I followed to get here.
[11:26] <techII> KiloByte, download it and burn it to a cd
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> KiloByte: what is the specification of the computer you are trying to install on?
[11:26] <snowman> vox754: I'll have a look
[11:26] <techII> fyrestrtr, good idea
[11:26] <kanuha> is there a command in terminal to empty trash?
[11:26] <Myzrael> Ey everyone.
[11:26] <radius> my question more so is can i proceed to next level of upgrade or reboot with this error looming
[11:27] <deathplanter> hi guys, how do i install kde4 on ubuntu?
[11:27] <BENN92647> damn it!
[11:27] <Myzrael> Have a small question. I reinstalled my nvidia drivers.....they work fine now. But hey, my 2d video acceleration is gone. Any idea how that can happen?
[11:27] <kitche> kanuha: cd ~/.trash then rm the file
[11:27] <KiloByte> Pentium III 500Mhz 128 Mb RAM memory HD is 20 Gb and Video Geforce 2 64 MB
[11:27] <Myzrael> 3d acceleration is still there
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> kanuha: cd ~/.Trash && sudo rm -rf .
[11:27] <BENN92647> dont go to wine hq channel they have no clue
[11:27] <wousser> kilobyte: must run fine
[11:27] <ubuntu_> hi gigs
[11:27] <KiloByte> but why do it lags  on logging in>?
[11:27] <curare> does someone know if there's a bonjour implementation for linux ?
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> KiloByte: you need the alternate installer, the livecd will not work on that configuration.
[11:27] <kanuha> kitche, fyrestrtr , thx
[11:27] <techII> !kubuntu
[11:27] <snowman> I think what I have to add is something for hd0,1 (that should be hda1, right?)
[11:27] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:27] <atrus> Myzrael: what makes you think the 2d acceleration is gone exactly?
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> KiloByte: read the minimum specs first.
[11:27] <ShackJack> Myzrael: Ummm I don't think so... If you have 3d you have 2d - what makes you think no 3d accell?
[11:27] <BENN92647> someone please help, dont tell me to go read dierctions i follwed all 4 methods and none are working right
[11:27] <techII> no idea about the version
[11:27] <Jowi> KiloByte, 192MB is required for the live cd i believe
[11:28] <wousser> it lags because you are using it from a cd
[11:28] <BENN92647> please just help me instal WoW
[11:28] <curare> WoW ? :D
[11:28] <ShackJack> KiloByte: You'd be better off with Xubuntu :)
[11:28] <Jowi> KiloByte, i recommend the alternate install cd
[11:28] <Myzrael> atrus : because totem doesn't accel anymore (clearly software mode) and VLC video is flashy as if vsync isn't on or something.
[11:28] <BENN92647> World of Warcraft
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> BENN92647: have you looked at winehq ? They have great instructions.
[11:28] <KiloByte> from where can i take a normal CD installer?
[11:28] <curare> i know that BENN92647 ;)
[11:28] <BENN92647> ERR! no they dont
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> !alternate | KiloByte
[11:28] <ubotu> KiloByte: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:28] <BENN92647> *firestrtr i went ther and i am stuck at the install phase
[11:29] <atrus> curare: avahi
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> KiloByte: the same place you download the livecd.
[11:29] <KiloByte> but i have a desktop CD
[11:29] <ShackJack> KiloByte: You want Xubuntu for that system - beleive me :) http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> KiloByte: you need to download the alternate cd image.
[11:29] <Jowi> KiloByte, at ubuntu.com you select the desktop download and just underneath the download button there's a checkbox for alternate cd.
[11:29] <Eltran> !minimal
[11:29] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:29] <BENN92647> does anyone in here play World of Warcraft on Linux?
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> BENN92647: what part?
[11:29] <atrus> Myzrael: ah, not sure then.
[11:29] <SoulinEther> Xubuntu on those specs is awesome
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> BENN92647: calm down and stop repeating.
[11:29] <BENN92647> this part:  cd /<path-to-directory>/ wine Installer.exe
 you were in here earlier and I gave you a guide
[11:30] <BENN92647> *firestrtr this part cd /<path-to-directory>/ wine Installer.exe
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> BENN92647: what is the problem?
[11:30] <mobtek> Hi, I just set up a new system and wanted to dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu. I was running Ubuntu on a P4 system previously with no problems but on the new system it won't load whatsoever. I insert the livecd, boot, the splash shows up, and on any sort of load it gives me an error and tells me to boot with no apic. Unfortunately, I can't seem to select that option and the boot: prompt on start doesn't let me type anything.
[11:30] <SoulinEther> I'm running xubuntu + some gnome apps on a Celeron 500 mhz / 256 megs / 4 mb video and it's great
[11:30] <techII> xubuntu is also more bare bones, but thats why it runs better on older machines
[11:30] <Ashfire908> techII, I GOT IT!
[11:30] <vox754> BENN92647, this is ubuntu support channel not wow-under-wine-channel so try to understand if you do not get the desired help.
[11:30] <ShackJack> KiloByte: SoulinEther yeah GNOME on a 128MB system will run ickly - unless you can put more RAM in it...
[11:30] <KiloByte> how can i run Linux installing without running Linux From CD?
[11:30] <techII> Ashfire908, so specifying dns servers worked?
[11:30] <SoulinEther> mobtek: is your new pc 64-bit? your cpu
[11:30] <Ashfire908> no
[11:30] <Myzrael> atrus :3D clearly works.....direct rendering on as well. Just having some Vsync problem in video I think and totem is unable to use OpenGL as videa mode I think.
[11:30] <mobtek> SoulinEther: Yeah, Athlon 64 X2 3000+
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> KiloByte: you need a network based install, instructions are available on the wiki
[11:30] <Myzrael> atrus: Normally the drivers worked fine but 3d was slower then it should be.
[11:30] <BENN92647> *meta4ical they didnt want to help told me to go to you guys :(
[11:31] <SoulinEther> mobtek: have you downloaded the 64 bit Ubuntu release?
[11:31] <Ashfire908> you config the modem in the network settings
[11:31] <techII> Ashfire908, so what did?
[11:31] <Jowi> mobtek, can you press ESC at the first menu to enter text-mode? from there you can press F1-F6 for different options.
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> BENN92647: what *part* of the instructions do you not understand?
 You should really be using #ubuntu as a last alternative if you couldn't find the information, have you tried the Ubuntu support forums at all?
[11:31] <Myzrael> BENN92647, that's to bad because this is not a wine channel so don't "whine" about wine here.
[11:31] <mobtek> SoulinEther: No, I heart it wasn't fully supported and not as problem-free as the 32-bit release
[11:31] <Myzrael> You can ask the ubuntu forum ofcourse but still....
[11:31] <Ashfire908> techII, system -> adminsitration -> network
[11:31] <ShackJack> BENN92647: #winehq or WINE wiki would be a better choice for supoprt...
[11:31] <Jowi> Myzrael, #winehq is the official wine channel
[11:31] <SoulinEther> mobtek: well, if you want to run your 32 bit ubuntu on your 64 bit processor, you will have to disable 64-bit execution or whatever on your current computer
[11:31] <Ashfire908> select the modem and click properites
[11:31] <mobtek> Jowi: Ah, I should try that. ESC, huh? Silly me.
[11:32] <Ashfire908> set the phone number, username and pass.
[11:32] <SoulinEther> mobtek: and i have no idea how to do that, lol
[11:32] <Myzrael> uh SoulinEther
[11:32] <Pricey> BENN92647, have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft ?
[11:32] <Jowi> mobtek, you will get a warning that you're about to leave the graphic screen but that's ok.
[11:32] <Myzrael> you can just run a 32bit ubuntu on 64 bit
[11:32] <Myzrael> nothing to do at all
[11:32] <SoulinEther> Myzrael: oh? good
[11:32] <Myzrael> just runs
[11:32] <Ashfire908> then set the modem location
[11:32] <ShackJack> I wish I had more old computers to but Ubuntu/Xubuntu on - it's kind of fun "resurrecting" an old system :)
[11:32] <Ashfire908> save
[11:32] <Jowi> mobtek, yeah, ESC at the first menu option when the cd starts
[11:32] <SoulinEther> Myzrael: sweet, will save me time when i upgrade my pc :)
[11:32] <Myzrael> 32bit on 64bit is fine
[11:32] <Myzrael> 64bit on 32bit not possible
[11:32] <BENN92647> dont be assholes, i understand your all these great programmers and have massive IQ's but I am simply stuck, i went to wine they wont help and %99 of the time there are "nice" people like indy that are helpful, I dont think he is around so I am asking you guys
[11:32] <hylje> SoulinEther: long mode (64bit) is explicitly entered, 32bit stuff dont know nor care about it
[11:32] <Myzrael> that's all
[11:32] <SoulinEther> well, i'm an idiot. :)
[11:33] <ShackJack> !enter | Myzrael
[11:33] <ubotu> Myzrael: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:33] <Jowi> mobtek, if that fails, download the alternate cd
[11:33] <Pricey> BENN92647, have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft ?
[11:33] <mobtek> Okay, thanks jowi and Soul, I'll try the ESC and noapic option first and keep my fingers crossed. Maybe try the 64-bit ver later.
[11:33] <Myzrael> yeah whatever ShackJack .....
[11:33] <SoulinEther> k, good luck man :)
[11:33] <snowman> should I need anything other than the title and root lines?
 I don't program, nor do I have an IQ. But I was in the exact same position you were at one point. The simple fact is you're lazy and not willing to go out and search for the information yourself, so you come here for a quick fix.
[11:33] <ShackJack> Myzrael: Respect the chat guidelines, please...
[11:33] <Myzrael> ShackJack, don't whine. Helping people here.
[11:33] <Pricey> Myzrael, ShackJack that's enough thanks.  No problems at all, nothing extra to do.
[11:34] <BENN92647> *meta4ical im not lazy been on this for over an hour now going thru forums and wine...fact is i am stuck at the crucial point and not sure i am entering the information right
[11:35] <SoulinEther> Myzrael: k, thanks. good to know, now at least i won't embarrass myself :)
[11:35] <Pricey> BENN92647, I don't know where it says anything about dekstop/wowfolder ...
[11:35] <curare> omg. os x successfully restored xD
[11:35] <jlu> i just booted into ubuntu after not using it for a while, and suddely nothing works. no icons on my desktop, and launching things like "places -> home folder" fails. is there a simple solution for this?
 What is your Ubuntu forum account? May I see the thread you posted? ;p
[11:36] <Pricey> Meta4ical, That is enough thankyou.
[11:36] <BENN92647> *pricey the command is cd /<path-to-directory>/ wine Installer.exe  my path is i put all the stuf fin a folder wowfolder so i guess i type cd(space) /desktop/wowfolder/wineinstaller.exe right?
[11:36] <rokj> hi
[11:36] <Pricey> BENN92647, ok cli tips...
[11:36] <ShackJack> !hi | rokj
[11:36] <ubotu> rokj: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:36] <Pricey> BENN92647, firstly... / is your root. If you want to start frmo where you are currently, don't use it... so cd desktop/wowfolder/foo
[11:36] <Pricey> BENN92647, secondly... linux is case sensitive, so use capital D for desktop
[11:37] <BENN92647> ..if anyone is reading this  I still love Linux and everyone in here is really helpful
[11:37] <Jowi> jlu, could be whatever. try create a new user and log in with that new user. if the problem does not show for the new user you can probably delete the .gnome* (or .gconf* directories) in the user home. if the problem also show with the new user there is something more complex going on.
[11:37] <rokj> can i have user without password?
[11:37] <KiloByte> how can i install ubuntu wtih 128 RAM?
[11:37] <BENN92647> *thank you pricey
[11:37] <ShackJack> rokj: No, but you can set login so it goes right into desktop...
[11:37] <Pricey> !alternate | KiloByte
[11:37] <ubotu> KiloByte: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:37] <Jowi> KiloByte, you need the alternate cd
[11:37] <eboyjr> When would I want to use Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu? I know that Edubuntu is best for schools and other learning environments.
[11:37] <rokj> ShackJack, how do i do that?
[11:38] <Pricey> !best | eboyjr
 We're not trying to be hard on you, but you have to understand that being able to utilize tools such as finding information on your own and experimenting is vital under the Linux platform. We are literally helping you by not helping you, if that makes sense.
[11:38] <ubotu> eboyjr: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:38] <upro> fyrestrtr, my /etc/ssh/ssh_config soe not talk about ports...
[11:38] <jlu> Jowi: alight. thanks for the idea. i'll check and see. thanks again.
[11:38] <ShackJack> rokj: System -> Administration ->  Login Window ... look for option there ;)
[11:38] <felipe_> Hi, I'm using the ubuntu 7.04 in a toshiba a205-s4797... But the audio is not working... I already try alsamixer command, but the columns don't show in config... Anyone know's explain me how fix this ?
[11:38] <rokj> ShackJack, thx
[11:39] <Iwizzard> Anyone know how to get LISTEN (Listen-project.com) to recognize . wma files?
[11:39] <BENN92647> *pricey is it possible for you to type it the exact way it should be done so i can copy and print it just doesnt want to work
[11:39] <eboyjr> When would I want to use Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu? I know that Edubuntu is best for schools and other learning environments.
[11:39] <felipe_> My hardware is Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G
[11:39] <ShackJack> eboyjr: Xubuntu best for lower spec systems or when you want more bang for the buck (uses XCFE) ... Kubuntu/Ubuntu mostly a matter of KDE vs GNOME enviroments - I prefer the latter...
[11:39] <radius> fyrestrtr, problem solved - just delete /etc/init.d/spampd
[11:39] <Pricey> BENN92647, No it really isn't :)
[11:39] <radius> fyrestrtr, thanks for that link
[11:39] <greendragon> i am trying to play movies in totem... i am a newbie... i installed the codecs it said I needed. but only way to see anything is full screen and sometimes squares block out part of the image... and have to switch it back and forth a few times too... or it shall only be a blank screen
[11:39] <BENN92647> K ")
[11:39] <Pricey> BENN92647, also you might want to utilse "tab completion"...
[11:40] <Pricey> BENN92647, type cd Des<tab>
[11:40] <vox754> !tab | BENN92647
[11:40] <ubotu> BENN92647: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:40] <Pricey> BENN92647, and it should fill out the rest of it
[11:40] <BENN92647> can i install by open wine and telling it to go to the CD?
[11:40] <Pricey> BENN92647, wine is command line only... it doesn't have a gui
[11:40] <Jowi> greendragon, sounds like you are running with beryl/compiz i guess?
[11:40] <Pricey> BENN92647, just follow the amazing guide that you are extremely lucky for me to have given you gratis
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> radius: glad it helped.
[11:41] <xst> According to the blueprints xorg7.3 will be a part of gutsy. Does anyone know when it will be implemented in any of the test CDs?
[11:41] <Pricey> xst, #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <xst> Thanks
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> upro: that is the ssh *client*
[11:41] <upro> fyrestrtr, where do I fond the server settings?
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> upro: to specify a port when connecting to a server, use the -p switch. Like this ssh -p 1234 server.example.com
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> upro: you have to install a server first, do you want to run a ssh server (allow other people ability to login to your system) or you just want to connect to other computers via ssh?
[11:42] <upro> for toodoty I didn't really want to connect to ssh, why should I do that?
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> what is toodoty?
[11:42] <upro> fyrestrtr: for timidity I didn't really want to connect to ssh, why should I do that?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> upro: I don't know -- why are you asking about ssh then?
[11:43] <ice_cream> having trouble either making a .png transparent, or converting it to a transparent .xpm .. any ideas?
[11:43] <greendragon> jowi. i have no idea about beryl or compiz..  i just installed edubuntu today...  my windows hard drive crashed.  so I wanted to reload anyways so finally felt today was a good day to go linux...
[11:43] <imbecile> anyone know how to cut mp3 in audacity? im trying to make a ringtone
[11:43] <macafe> Hi, I'm using a laptop toshiba a205 with device Intel Corporation 82801G ... In the default install and config of ubuntu 7.04 my audio/sound is not working... I already try alsamixer.. not exist the columns of config.... Anyone can help me please ?
[11:43] <ShackJack> ice_cream: If using GIMP it should be 24 bit PNG ;)
[11:43] <upro> fyrestrtr: You said that my problem looked lie ssh running on a port other than 22, I only asked why timidity won't start here...
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> you were asking about connecting via ssh, sorry if I misunderstood your problem.
[11:44] <jlu> Jowi: ok, it worked with the new user. sorry that i ask again, but what files did you tell me to delete?
[11:44] <ice_cream> ShackJack, how can i tell how many bits it is?
[11:44] <Jowi> greendragon, ok. without having any details i would guess that you have a problem with your video driver. what video card do you have?
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> macafe: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[11:45] <ice_cream> ShackJack, is that , in gimp's info window, the 'visual depth' ?
[11:45] <upro> fyrestrtr: I get this as error message: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[11:45] <ShackJack> ice_cream: Erp.. nevermind -- just make sure no "background" is behind it - you should see checkerboard pattern -- though this question isn't really Ubuntu-specific ;)
[11:45] <macafe> fyrestrtr, Thanks.. I will study this related page
[11:45] <Jowi> jlu, anything connected to gnome such as ~/.gconf* /.gnome*
[11:45] <lousygarua> greendragon: Jowi: maybe he can try checking if the movie works in VLC or mplayer, then see if it's something with totem codecs or the movie itself is corrupted
[11:45] <BENN92647> ok i got the wine thing open and it says i maybe out of hard disk space when i try to install from the disk?
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> upro: what sound card do you have?
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> BENN92647: what is so confusing about that?
[11:46] <Myzrael> imbecile, Just search google for that. Audacity has nothing to do with Ubuntu and is a really easy audio-editor. Just a mather of dragging the mouse over the audio wav and cutting the part you don't want. Really....just play with it
[11:46] <Jowi> good idea lousygarua
[11:46] <BENN92647> *ifirestrtr  have over 200GB of space
[11:46] <curare> !mDNS
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <lousygarua> greendragon: let's try to see if your movie works under a different player
[11:47] <curare> !IPv4LL
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipv4ll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <BENN92647> i know this is not wine chat...but It is a linux issue so bare with me and help, please
[11:47] <hvgotcodes> hey i am trying to get the ubuntu iso on a disk -- can someone help?
[11:47] <hvgotcodes> im in archlinux
[11:47] <upro> fyrestrtr: I have a C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[11:47] <Jowi> curare, what are you looking for?
[11:47] <wehttamb> is there a redirection service that can automatically get my ip address and host it somewhere on the net
[11:48] <wehttamb> i know you can get them for windows but is there one for linux
[11:48] <Myzrael> BENN92647, it's not a linux issue. It's a wine issue.
[11:48] <fyrestrtr> wehttamb: try no-ip.org
[11:48] <curare> Jowi: bonjour (aka zeroconf) for linux
[11:48] <ShackJack> hvgotcodes: Not really... in any linux distro worth its salt you should be able to right click iso and burn to disk...
[11:48] <lousygarua> greendragon: i suggest you install vlc and try to watch the movie with it.
[11:48] <hvgotcodes> arch in minimalist
[11:48] <Noobie> Hello. I can't install Ubuntu... Everytime I tell my computer to start from the CD, it just locks up right before the loading-bar is done
[11:48] <hvgotcodes> so there is no "right click"
[11:48] <hvgotcodes> id have to get gnome for that
[11:48] <Jowi> curare, libnss-mdns or search for avahi i guess
[11:49] <ShackJack> hvgotcodes: Yeah, well that's why this is the Ubuntu Channel ;)
[11:49] <curare> Jowi: thanks =)
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> isn't avahi installed by default?
[11:49] <hvgotcodes> cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc isoimage.iso
[11:49] <hvgotcodes> i tried that but the disk it produced isnt good
[11:49] <Jowi> !info avahi-daemon
[11:49] <ubotu> avahi-daemon: Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.17-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 364 kB
[11:49] <Myzrael> hvgotcodes, have you checked the m5 sum of the iso file
[11:49] <Myzrael> ?
[11:49] <BENN92647> ok i am going to try and hook up my other drives and see if Linux will still show as master, then it says i can just copy the folder from windows to linux
[11:49] <hvgotcodes> yes i did myzrael
[11:50] <BENN92647> BRB...I hope :)
[11:50] <greendragon> another question...   tftp server.  I want to be able to install / load a few of my CDs via the network instead of cdrom drives...  is there a way to convert a CDrom into whatever format a tftp server shall need. like a windows cd or puppy distro...  (the two things I would like to boot)
[11:50] <bill> hello
[11:50] <Noobie> Hello. I can't install Ubuntu... Everytime I tell my computer to start from the CD, it just locks up right before the loading-bar is done
[11:50] <Myzrael> hvgotcodes, weird then. Generally your burn should go well.
[11:50] <Myzrael> hold on a second
[11:51] <Jowi> Noobie, how much ram do you have and which cd are you trying to boot?
[11:51] <hvgotcodes> is there any way i can verify the cd?
[11:51] <ShackJack> Noobie: You might want to use alternate install CD or unplug and extraneous periphrials... or check CD for defects...
[11:51] <bill> Noobie try an alternate cd
[11:51] <Noobie> Jowi: 512Mb and the official cd
[11:51] <bill> installl cd
[11:51] <Noobie> I don't have an empty cd
[11:51] <ShackJack> hvgotcodes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[11:52] <Jowi> Noobie, you should try the alternate cd.
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> greendragon: mount -t auto -o loop somefile.iso /some/path
[11:52] <Jowi> !alternate | Noobie
[11:52] <ubotu> Noobie: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:52] <ShackJack> Noobie: It's likely a bad burn, or you can try alt CD :)
[11:52] <bill> i know this sounds dumb but i have a duel boot with windows xp and i was woundering how to get xp to be the defualt start up system
[11:52] <Noobie> Thanks :) I don't have an empty cd... Is the classical text-mode installation ripped from the official installation?
[11:52] <Noobie> installation-cd?
[11:53] <ShackJack> bill you can edit /boot/grub/menu.1st and swap the order of O/S :0
[11:53] <bill> hwo
[11:53] <bill> or what commands
[11:53] <Jowi> Noobie, yes, to make room for other stuff
[11:53] <w30> Noobie, make sure your bios is told to boot a cd first
[11:53] <Myzrael> hvgotcodes, your command should work just fine. Maybe something with the burner? What goes wrong exactly?
[11:53] <Noobie> w30: Everything works... Except the graphical thing can't start up...
[11:53] <curare> nice, avahi was installed by default, but nfs and/or smb not :)
[11:54] <Ace2016> hi all
[11:54] <Jowi> night all
[11:54] <ShackJack> bill gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st   -- file heavily commented you should be able to see what to do to change order...
[11:54] <hvgotcodes> i burned, tried to boot up, got the ubuntu options, then anything i selected didn't work
[11:54] <deathnall> ehy all im back lol
[11:54] <Ace2016> i downloaded a deb
[11:54] <ShackJack> !hi | Ace2016
[11:54] <ubotu> Ace2016: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:54] <Noobie> Where can I get the alternate cd, and is it hard to install?
[11:54] <hvgotcodes> got some sort of failed to read boot
[11:54] <Ace2016> how do i install it with all the deps it needs?
[11:54] <vox754> !download | Noobie
[11:54] <ubotu> Noobie: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:54] <rhollan> Does anyone know the fix when a 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-16 kernel upgrade breaks glx on unichrome chips?
[11:54] <Lightenix> hello,  anyone can tell me if this device ( /dev/.static/dev/parport0 ) is the device user called dl8dtl here http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=46305&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20&sid=04df37630d0544c74c5d0bc7101df4fd is talking about?  (post from date Feb 17, 2007 - 10:20 PM)
[11:54] <Pricey> Noobie, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> Noobie: you get it from the same page as the desktop cd, just check the little box near the giant green download arrow.
[11:55] <deathnall> ok guys question of the day . is there such thing as linux on the psp so i can write my html codes whikle im on my 4 hour trip tommorow in the car?
[11:55] <ShackJack> rhollan: Maybe reinstall nvidia-glx :)
[11:55] <rhollan> why nvidia? It's unichrome
[11:55] <vox754> rhollan, VIA S3 Unichrome chipsets? These are buggy. Let me get you the bug number.
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> deathnall: ever heard of a pen and paper?
[11:55] <Noobie> Is it hard to install?
[11:55] <ShackJack> Noobie: I'd check CD for defects if you haven't already...
[11:55] <deathnall> 8600 gtx baby all the way
[11:55] <rhollan> vox754: VIS S3 works fine for me under -15
[11:55] <bill> do i type that in the terminal
[11:55] <deathnall> yes i have heard of pen and paper but then i gota rewrite the code when i get back
[11:55] <ubuntu_> are there any good fuckers here ?
[11:55] <hvgotcodes> hm checking the burned disk yields a bunch of errors
[11:56] <ShackJack> !oh my | ubuntu_
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> deathnall: and how do your propose to "type" it on the psp.
[11:56] <lor4x> hello, i need some help getting my usb-serial to work.  basically i've loaded usbserial but i don't know what block device it maps the convertor to... any help?
[11:56] <Myzrael> hvgotcodes, bad disc maybe or you're burning to fast with a bad burner.
[11:56] <vox754> ShackJack, ops, fast!
[11:56] <ShackJack> !ohmy | ubuntu_
[11:56] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:56] <fyrestrtr> lor4x: one quick way is to monitor dmesg as you plug in the device.
[11:56] <deathnall> yes but think of it all i have to do is save it as a txt file then transfer it to linux
[11:56] <hvgotcodes> yeah how to slow it down?
[11:56] <deathnall> jeez fyrestrtr
[11:56] <Noobie> Is it hard to install?
[11:56] <Myzrael> cdrecord --help should give you all the options
[11:56] <hvgotcodes> md5sum: ./pool/main/s/setserial/setserial_2.17-43_i386.deb: Input/output error
[11:56] <hvgotcodes> ./pool/main/s/setserial/setserial_2.17-43_i386.deb: FAILED open or read
[11:56] <jlu> jowi: no, it resetted all my settings (i guess that was to be expected...) but still it does not work. now however, after logging in i get an error message "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory.Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem." does this tell you anything?
[11:57] <hvgotcodes> thats the type of error im getting
[11:57] <bill> i am in gedit
[11:57] <bill> now how do i change the list of oses
[11:57] <vox754> rhollan, what are your problems with that chipset specifically?
[11:57] <bill> os;s
[11:57] <ShackJack> Noobie: No - just text based - but I'd check Live CD for defects myself..
[11:57] <deathnall> ok guys any links for linux on the psp?
[11:57] <w30> deathnall, a guy wrote a novel in a car on a psp according to a poster on Groklaw, so search on Google?
[11:57] <Noobie> ShackJack: Aight...
[11:57] <SoulinEther> hvgotcodes, don't you use debconf or dpkg to work with .deb files? or .. is that my backward stupidity... i'm not too sure these days
[11:57] <lor4x> fyrestrtr: it doesn't tell me a particular device... it says address 7, configuration #1.... do you need a particular usb-serial convertor for linux or do they all work?
[11:57] <ShackJack> bill  Scroll down - you'll see them, just cut paste and swap order...
[11:57] <bill> ok
[11:58] <rhollan> vox754: Feisty out of the box on unichrome works fine: 1100+ FPS in glxgears, but when I install the updates including 2.6.20-16 glxgears or glxinfo hangs hard
[11:58] <bill> i see a lot of things
[11:58] <bill> hold on
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> lor4x: no, they should all work.
[11:58] <hvgotcodes> SoulinEther: I was just trying to verify that the ubuntu cd i created had no errors
[11:58] <rpatino> hello folks, looking for help in setting a modem to my ubuntu 7.04 server
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> bill: the line is called 'default' it will be something like this > default 0
[11:58] <ShackJack> bill the lines start with title, root, etc..
[11:58] <rhollan> vox754: even booting the old -15 kernel is still broken after the -16 install
[11:58] <bill> ok
[11:58] <Ace2016> anyone know how to install a downloaded deb and get it to download the deps from the repos?
[11:58] <fyrestrtr> bill: 0 is the first entry called 'title', so the second entry is called 1, and the third entry 2, etc.
[11:59] <SoulinEther> hvgotcodes: k, don't mind me, i'm just reading a few lines and responding without looking at the context
[11:59] <ShackJack> fyrestrtr: bill Oh... whoops I just cut/paste the list so the desired one is at top :)
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> bill: find the entry that has the os you want for default, and change the 0 after default 0 to that number, save the file, and reboot.
[11:59] <rpatino> i used to use it with a router, that took care of mac addresses. I am having a hard time finding mac addresses in u 7.04
[11:59] <snowman> rhollan: are you by chance talking of a device you used ndiswrapper with?
[11:59] <bill> ok
[11:59] <fyrestrtr> ShackJack: no, that's not the right way to do it.
[11:59] <vox754> rhollan, this is the Master bug #43154 it hasn't been fixed in ages, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-via/+bug/43154
[11:59] <rhollan> thanks for the link, vox754
[11:59] <ShackJack> fyrestrtr: I see -- it hasn't ever cause problems for me, but I'll take your word for it :)
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> Ace2016: sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> ShackJack: it will when the installer upgrades your kernels ;)
[12:00] <fiXXXerMet> I'm trying to do a raid5 with 4 disks on the server-install CD.  Each of the 4 drives has 2 raid partitions.  When I go to create the raid device, none of the /dev/xx1s show up, only /dev/xx2?
[12:00] <bill> um
[12:01] <ShackJack> fyrestrtr: It hasn't yet - been though lots of kernel upgrades... Anyway change default in grub to which number - alls I see  is the (hd0,1) etc... with the Os's
[12:01] <vox754> rhollan, although your description is most interesting. I didn't use the -15 kernel, because I was still using Edgy. I jumped straight into -16, and I had the issues as you say, hard lock.
[12:01] <bill> is there anyway someone can do this remotely