[00:45] <UndiFineD> bah i lost menu in xchat, how do i get it back
[00:49] <firewall_03> reaper_, I have heard of people using a wii remote but now an xbox 360
[00:50] <reaper_> yeah I have use it on win 7 works great
[00:53] <reaper_> now ive been playing doom 3 and want to use my 360 controller in ubuntu
[00:57] <UndiFineD> found it: F9
[01:00] <holstein> check this out
[01:00] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/546440/
[01:00] <holstein> not sure what to do about it
[01:00] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/291480
[01:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 291480 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[RV280 9200] Videos have very slow frame rate (affects: 7) (heat: 30)" [Low,Incomplete]
[01:00] <holstein> :/
[01:00] <holstein> old hardware, i dont think anyone is going to care about it
[01:01] <holstein> and i dont blame them...
[01:02] <UndiFineD> 300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.994 FPS
[01:03] <holstein> you sould see what it looks like ;)
[01:03] <holstein> looks more like a frame every other second
[01:03] <holstein> just full screen though
[01:19] <nlsthzn> wow, the amount of broken installs due to Wubi on the forum is ridiculous :/
[01:20] <holstein> too bad
[01:20] <holstein> nlsthzn: since maverick
[01:20] <holstein> or just in general
[01:21] <nlsthzn> holstein: not sure, most where Lucid... but I am running into thread after thread... seems there is a grub update then the Wubi installs go belly up...
[01:22] <nlsthzn> ... and worst thing is, the noobiest of the noobs will be going Wubi... not a good advert for Ubuntu at all :/
[01:22] <holstein> yeah
[01:23] <holstein> i used it for about a year on a box
[01:23] <holstein> worked pretty well
[02:21] <MrRyanThai> Hello everyone.I'm a complete noob to Ubuntu.I just installed it and it's not letting me connect to the internet.It says the wireless driver is missing.I have a Dell Inspiron E1505. My brother installed it and his wireless driver is working fine.
[02:23] <holstein> MrRyanThai: what verion of ubuntu?
[02:23] <MrRyanThai> 10.10
[02:23] <holstein> 10.04?
[02:23] <holstein> OK
[02:23] <holstein> go to...
[02:23] <holstein> system-administration-additional drivers
[02:23] <holstein> and see if you seea WIFI drivr there
[02:23] <holstein> driver8
[02:23] <holstein> dirver**
[02:23] <holstein> driver***
[02:24] <holstein> my keyboard is screwy... sorry...
[02:24] <MrRyanThai> haha alright,what if I don't see it there?
[02:24] <MrRyanThai> oh,it's alright
[02:24] <holstein> nothing is there?
[02:24] <MrRyanThai> I'm actually on the laptop that's dualbooting Win7 and Ubuntu right now
[02:24] <MrRyanThai> so I'm going to have boot into Ubuntu
[02:24] <holstein> AH
[02:24] <holstein> thats the first thing i would do
[02:24] <holstein> hang on...
[02:25] <MrRyanThai> alright,thanks
[02:25] <holstein> yeah
[02:25] <holstein> its a broadcom chip
[02:25] <holstein> so that would be my first try
[02:26] <holstein> i have a couple broadcom chips here that i have to do that with
[02:26] <holstein> and they work fine
[02:26] <holstein> MrRyanThai: can you plug it in?
[02:26] <holstein> wired internet?
[02:26] <holstein> for just a second... while it downloads that driver?
[02:27] <MrRyanThai> yeah I can't right now
[02:27] <MrRyanThai> all the ports are currently taken and the computers are being used
[02:27] <holstein> MrRyanThai: i would wait til you can plug it in
[02:27] <holstein> it will be too easy that way
[02:28] <holstein> plug it in
[02:28] <holstein> start it up
[02:28] <holstein> you'll probably get a prompt
[02:28] <holstein> if not, go to the additional drivers
[02:28] <holstein> and you *should* be good to go
[02:28] <MrRyanThai> alright thanks,I will try that as soon as I can
[02:28] <MrRyanThai> What about the video drivers?
[02:29] <holstein> same thing
[02:29] <MrRyanThai> are those automatically installed?
[02:29] <holstein> there will be proprietary drivers listed there
[02:29] <holstein> if you want to install them
[02:29] <holstein> want/need
[02:29] <holstein> i think its intel right?
[02:29] <MrRyanThai> yeah
[02:29] <MrRyanThai> oh the video card?
[02:29] <MrRyanThai> it's X1400
[02:29] <holstein> so you wont have to install any thing for graphics then
[02:30] <holstein> buntu cant/doesnt put the proprietary drivers in by default
[02:31] <MrRyanThai> alright,thank you.appreciate it.I'll come back here if I still need help
[02:31] <holstein> right-on :)
[05:28] <firewall_03> can you dual boot 2 different linux distros
[05:28] <AbhiJit> firewall_03, yes
[05:29] <AbhiJit> most time easily
[05:29] <firewall_03> anything to watch out for?
[05:29] <CensoredBiscuit> firewall_03 not at the same time though
[05:29] <AbhiJit> sometimes needs a little tweak in grub/lilo
[05:29] <CensoredBiscuit> you can only have one running at a time
[05:29] <firewall_03> CensoredBiscuit, ya I realize that
[05:30] <pleia2> nothing really to watch out for
[05:31] <firewall_03> ok
[05:31] <pleia2> I guess you should probably keep an eye on which OS is writing to the MBR, in case the different linux distros have different versions of grub and they both want to rewrite it all the time
[05:31] <firewall_03> I am thinking about trying MINT
[05:32] <pleia2> but in reality I've never had a real issue with that
[05:35] <firewall_03> ok
[05:36] <firewall_03> any other distros you guys like beside ubuntu?
[05:37] <pleia2> debian, but on the desktop it kinda feels like unpolished ubuntu (I just use it on servers)
[05:39] <firewall_03> ya
[05:39] <firewall_03> I want to try something a little more difficult
[05:40] <sebikul> firewall_03, you can check out archlinux
[05:40] <sebikul> you will learn a lot about how linux really works using it
[05:40] <firewall_03> sebikul,  will do
[05:41] <firewall_03> I installed mandrake when I was like 12, then got tired of it being confusing and went back to windows, then switched to linux when I was overseas because the viruses were so bad with our haji satellite internet
[05:42] <shahan> Update Manager on Maverick Meerkat is always asking me to make a update of Google Chrome (22 MB)
[05:42] <shahan> I updated it for about
[05:42] <pleia2> fedora is also an option if you want to check out an rpm-based distro
[05:42] <shahan> 3 times during this weeks
[05:43] <firewall_03> pleia2,  didn't fedora acquire Novell a couple years back?
[05:43] <pleia2> shahan: yeah, they keep updating it :(
[05:43] <pleia2> firewall_03: nope, fedora is red hat's community distro
[05:43] <shahan> pleia2, always update?
[05:44] <shahan> pleia2,  2-3 times in a week!!!
[05:44] <pleia2> shahan: google chrome is installed directly from google as an in development release, yes, sometimes they release 2-3 times a week :(
[05:44] <pleia2> they just launched their store so I this is unusual, they are probably working out a lot of bugs
[05:45] <shahan> pleia2, everytime it download 22 MB files which is not as easy for me as I have a slow internet connection
[05:45] <pleia2> shahan: you might want to check out chromium-browser
[05:45] <pleia2> it's the community version of google chrome and comes from ubuntu rather than google, it's just patched for security, not adding lots of new features all the time
[05:46] <shahan> pleia2, hmm
[05:47] <firewall_03> so I got this ISO downloaded how do I make it bootable via a thumb drive?
[05:47] <pleia2> firewall_03: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:49] <pleia2> (I haven't actually done it, but that's where I'd start)
[05:50] <JoeMaverickSett> you could use the Startup Disk Creator from System > Administration. :D
[05:51] <firewall_03> that was easy
[05:53] <firewall_03> will there be an option to resize the partition?
[06:00] <firewall_03> well that didn't work ISO wouldn't boot
[06:02] <sebikul> shahan, you must be using the beta/development repository. the stable one gets an update once a month
[06:02] <shahan> sebikul, wat!!!
[06:02] <shahan> sebikul, how to solve this problem?
[06:02] <JoeMaverickSett> firewall_03: did you use the StartUp Disk Creator or the link?
[06:03] <firewall_03> ya did that
[06:03] <firewall_03> trying unetbooin
[06:04] <sebikul> shahan, go to System -> Administration ->  Update manager. in the bottom left corner, click the configure button
[06:04] <JoeMaverickSett> firewall_03: in the Choose your device make sure you choose your device name, in Startup Disk Creator. give unetbootin a try also. :)
[06:04] <firewall_03> JoeMaverickSett, thats what I did, will try unetbootin maybe somethin else
[06:05] <shahan> sebikul, there has no configuration button. there has a settings... button
[06:05] <JoeMaverickSett> firewall_03: what i always do is format my usb 2times before doing that. :P
[06:05] <sebikul> shahan, :P it's the same, i just have it in spanish, i dont know the exact translation
[06:05] <firewall_03> haha ok
[06:06] <shahan> sebikul, ok.. then?
[06:06] <sebikul> shahan, once there go to the other software tab, look for the entry that points to the google repository
[06:07] <sebikul> shahan, select it and click the edit button, now tell me what the distribution textbox says
[06:07] <shahan> stable
[06:08] <JoeMaverickSett> :O
[06:08] <sebikul> shahan, sure?? and the url?
[06:09] <shahan> sebikul, http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/
[06:09] <firewall_03> JoeMaverickSett, wish me luck
[06:09] <firewall_03> :D
[06:09] <JoeMaverickSett> firewall_03: good luck. :P
[06:09] <sebikul> shahan, the component is "main" right?
[06:10] <shahan> sebikul, yes
[06:12] <shahan> sebikul, take a look there http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2784/othersoft.png
[06:13] <sebikul> shahan, you must have another repository that has published a higher version than the one i just told you to look for. let me look at the once that are listed in the screenshot so i can tell you which one is causing the updates
[06:14] <shahan> sebikul, I dont understand
[06:14] <bioterror> oh snap
[06:14] <bioterror> use the chromium
[06:15] <bioterror> and if you want beta, use ppa beta channel
[06:15] <JoeMaverickSett> chromium daily builds FTW! :P
[06:15] <bioterror> you can use apt-get
[06:15] <firewall_03> and no dice again
[06:15] <JoeMaverickSett> firewall_03: :(
[06:15] <sebikul> shahan, updates are always installed using the higher version available, now, you have the stable google repository, but another one must have another build with a higher version,
[06:15] <firewall_03> gave me a weird error
[06:15] <bioterror> and keep the chromium up to date
[06:16] <bioterror> i really suggest to use beta, it works like a charm
[06:17] <firewall_03> gonna try mint instead
[06:17]  * JoeMaverickSett nods to bioterror 's suggestion.
[06:19] <shahan> sebikul, thats the repository I am using http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5963/repository.png
[06:19] <shahan> sebikul, its an local repository of BANGLADESH
[06:21] <sebikul> shahan, i have no idea where the update is coming from :S. i am using the same google repository and i have never experienced any problem
[06:21] <shahan> sebikul, hmm... tnx for help
[06:21] <sebikul> shahan, no problem
[06:30] <firewall_03> well its resizing the partitions now had to go to the basement to get my wep kep!!!!
[06:30] <firewall_03> key rather
[06:37] <firewall_03> ok lets see if I screwed this up or not, I selected / as the mount point for my mint install, but it said it wouldn't allow it since my ubuntu system has the / mount point
[06:55] <firewall_03> so I effed up my grub I think
[06:57] <firewall_03> any takers? lol
[07:08] <JoeMaverickSett> firewall_03: does booting from live CD and doing sudo update-grub works?
[07:11] <firewall_03> haven't tried it right now I am on mint :S
[07:12] <firewall_03> http://pastebin.com/5ZJPBABT
[07:12] <firewall_03> thats what fdisk -l shows
[07:25] <firewall_03> here is my pastebin after I did sudo update-grub http://pastebin.com/8TQnmf7r
[07:25] <bioterror> hmmmmm
[07:26] <JoeMaverickSett> REBOOT! :D
[07:26] <Puck`> so it worked?
[07:26] <firewall_03> kk rebooting
[07:26] <firewall_03> brb
[07:30] <firewall_03> and no dice fellows
[07:48] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: I've never been one for dice
[07:48] <firewall_03> hobgoblin:  me either
[07:50] <firewall_03> http://pastebin.com/UpPi1nbh
[07:50] <firewall_03> take a look at that....
[07:55] <hobgoblin> they are NOT dice ;) what's the issue with them?
[07:56] <firewall_03> I can't boot into ubuntu now, but at least I have mint
[07:57] <bioterror> you cant boot to mint as you installed mint over the ubuntu ;)
[07:57] <bioterror> at least it seems so
[07:57] <firewall_03> hobgoblin:  https://www.tannens.com/shop/secure/images/products/1787.jpg
[07:58] <firewall_03> bioterror: yep poor attempt to dual boot with ubuntu
[07:59] <nit-wit> firewall_03, did you loose anything
[07:59] <firewall_03> nit-wit: idk right now
[08:00] <firewall_03> really don't know how to access the other partition I guess I could mount it
[08:00] <nit-wit> firewall_03, did you have anything in ubuntu that you wanted saved
[08:00] <firewall_03> nit-wit: some stuff
[08:01] <hobgoblin> goodnow bioterror nit-wit
[08:02] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, happy holidays and to you all
[08:02] <hobgoblin> thank you - same for you :)
[08:05] <nit-wit> firewall_03, run this script and paste bin it.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[08:10] <firewall_03> http://pastebin.com/N9CiBvpd
[08:14] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: that's just the script - you need to run it :)
[08:15] <firewall_03> http://pastebin.com/MiX81Fh5
[08:17] <hobgoblin> that's more like it - though as I have no idea what your issue is I shall wander off
[08:18] <firewall_03> dual booted ubuntu and mint
[08:18] <firewall_03> and now grub went bye bye
[08:26] <hobgoblin> that's not a dual boot - you have mint on sda2 and home on sda6
[08:26] <hobgoblin> sda1
[08:26] <firewall_03> well I screwed it up then
[08:27] <hobgoblin> I assume that mint was the last one installed
[08:27] <firewall_03> yep
[08:28] <nit-wit> I think hob s right if you had a seperate home
[08:28] <hobgoblin> then it looks like it either used the whole disk or you overwrote the exisiting OS
[08:28] <hobgoblin> sda6 is mounted to /home
[08:29] <firewall_03> thats what I did, when I installed mint it asked for a mount point I did /home
[08:29] <firewall_03> DOHHHH!
[08:29] <hobgoblin> oh so are you saying the sda6 used to be /
[08:29] <firewall_03> no I creadted sda6 for mint
[08:30] <hobgoblin> aaah
[08:30] <hobgoblin> and sda1 was the original install with no seperate home
[08:30] <firewall_03> so did I lose all my files or?
[08:30] <bioterror> yes
[08:30] <firewall_03> sda1 was /
[08:31] <bioterror> firewall_03, my condolences for the files
[08:31] <firewall_03> all that adult material gone....
[08:31] <bioterror> ahhh
[08:31] <hobgoblin> I'd say it is gone - not only has it been formatted but it has also had mint installed on it - so it's possible you might be able to find some info with testdisk but I would doubt it
[08:32] <hobgoblin> backups are failry useful, especially in hindsight
[08:32] <firewall_03> hob
[08:33] <firewall_03> I was using ubuntu one so I am pretty good just lost my movies and stuff, no biggie
[08:34] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: if I lost all my media I would not be so laidback ;)
[08:35] <bioterror> hobgoblin, I just deleted my 800GB image of broken drive, I couldnt mount the ecrypt home and I gave up :D
[08:35] <hobgoblin> or rather - if I lost all my media again I would not be so laidback ... I am REALLY good at telling people to backup
[08:35] <firewall_03> hobgoblin: I cried when my 200 gigs of porn crashed to the concrete
[08:35] <bioterror> hobgoblin, but I learned from it, I've got 1TB drive for backups now
[08:35] <bioterror> hahaha you get always new pr0n
[08:35] <hobgoblin> I am rubbish at backups
[08:35] <hobgoblin> and that's probably enough talk of porn ...
[08:36] <bioterror> hobgoblin, I used to be too, but I almost lost all my family pictures from the past 4 years including my kids deliveries
[08:36] <firewall_03> so, hows the weather?
[08:36] <hobgoblin> bioterror: that's :(
[08:36] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: it is warmer here - crept up to 0C now
[08:37] <bioterror> [Espoo: -8°C, Mostly Cloudy]
[08:37] <bioterror> that's is acceptable weather
[08:37] <bioterror> not too cold
[08:38] <bioterror> I dont have to use erol flynn underpants while walking to work from train station or riding bike :D
[08:38] <bioterror> s/use/wear/
[08:38] <bioterror> I bet hobgoblin remember that erol flynn's robin hood and those tights :D
[08:38] <hobgoblin>  ha ha ha ha
[08:39] <bioterror> firewall_03, one thing sucks on Linux Mint
[08:40] <bioterror> you cant do do-release-upgrade :D
[08:40] <firewall_03> lol I am about ready to format reinstall
[08:40] <firewall_03> lol
[08:40] <bioterror> yeah, vanilla ubuntu?
[08:40] <firewall_03> and maybe xubuntu, I really liked it
[08:42] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: you installing again?
[08:42] <hobgoblin> welcome back IAmNotThatGuy nit-wit
[08:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> ty hobgoblin [=
[08:43] <nit-wit> I had to fire up my mint 10 on the SDHC class 10 card for fun
[08:45] <hobgoblin> never tried mint, or any of the other based on buntu things
[08:45] <nit-wit> the mint consistently runs about 70MIB less ram then Maverick I plenty to spare but not a bad setup
[08:46] <hobgoblin> I used to worry about ram but eventually decided that as the only music player I really like is amarok in gnome it was pointless :)
[08:46] <nit-wit> hobgoblin: I just came across the mint site while trying to get natty to work at first and have it dual on a 16 bit card
[08:46] <hobgoblin> nice
[08:47] <hobgoblin> I will I think look about a bit more when unity lands - really not liking that :(
[08:47] <firewall_031> glad I bought that Ubuntu User magazine for 15 bucks last night
[08:48] <nit-wit> hobgoblin: couldn't get the natty grub to work but since it is a card would boot through the HD grub so I mounted and installed grub in mint to control th unruly natty
[08:50] <nit-wit> Natty wil be usable for me when the panels are adjustable but  think thats not in the picture development wise.
[08:59] <hobgoblin> nit-wit: yep - I've no problem with the panel as such - just want to be able to do with it as I want
[09:03] <firewall_03> yeah I am making my boot drive now
[09:04] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: well I guess at least this time you don't need to worry about existing data
[09:06] <firewall_03> hobgoblin: :(
[09:07] <firewall_03> oh well least I learned my lesson
[09:07] <hobgoblin> measure twice cut once ...
[09:08] <firewall_03> ya ya
[09:09] <firewall_03> I have been wanting to do a clean install for a while, just didn't want to do it tonight
[09:09] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha
[09:10] <firewall_03> ever messed around with ubuntu server?
[09:11] <bioterror> zkriesse, http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/trollface_monitor.jpg :D
[09:11] <bioterror> oh, damn, was ment to -team :D
[09:12] <Puck`> haha
[09:12] <firewall_03> nice
[09:19] <hobgoblin> all done nit-wit - thank you - I hate spam :(
[09:22] <nit-wit> hobgoblin: just was looking through
[09:52] <firewall_03> back
[09:52] <firewall_03> its working now
[09:53] <hobgoblin> cool
[09:54] <firewall_03> so, how to I upgrade to 10.10 I am running netbook 10.04 now?
[09:54] <bioterror> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[09:54] <hobgoblin> make sure that it's completely up to date first
[09:55] <hobgoblin> sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:55] <hobgoblin> just in case
[09:55] <firewall_03> ok
[09:55] <firewall_03> thanks
[09:58] <firewall_03> only 300 megs of updates
[09:58] <firewall_03> :S
[10:09] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[10:10] <firewall_03> HEY
[10:10] <Silver_Fox_> Hello firewall_03
[10:12] <firewall_03> hows it goin?
[10:13] <Silver_Fox_> I am fine thank you. How are you ?
[10:13] <firewall_03> not too bad
[11:27] <wolfpack> which application is required for opening UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.1.txt.asc
[11:27] <wolfpack> ?
[11:28] <genupulas> wolfpack:  noramal text can open it
[11:28] <genupulas> wolfpack: gedit
[11:29] <wolfpack> i tried it ....it is saying "There is no application installed for PGP/MIME-encrypted message header files"....
[11:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> wolfpack, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct ?
[11:30] <wolfpack> k
[11:30] <wolfpack> got it now
[11:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb
[12:02] <janyo> HI  i get some problem... on ubuntu1010..when i runing skype got this error message!!   Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64  (<unknown>:1810): Gtk-WARNING **: Loading IM context type 'ibus' failed  (<unknown>:1810): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[12:05] <janyo> There solution was it?
[12:06] <Silver_Fox_> Did skype crash janyo  ?
[12:06] <bioterror> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581138
[12:07] <hobgoblin> there's a dodgy looking mod in that thread :(
[12:08] <bioterror> yeah, I know that guy
[12:09] <hobgoblin> so do I :(
[12:09] <bioterror> but I believe he has a somekind of firewall, he must be soft from the inside
[12:10] <bioterror> he just seems to be rough from the outside ;
[12:10] <bioterror> ;)
[12:13] <janyo> yes!!  i have two skype account !!   i hope can run 2 or more skype service !!
[12:54] <saimanoj> whois
[12:54] <saimanoj> ls
[12:54] <bioterror> dir
[12:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> lol
[12:54] <bioterror> techologic!
[12:54] <coolbhavi> lol
[12:54] <coolbhavi> whats going on?
[12:55] <hobgoblin> bash
[12:55] <coolbhavi> hobgoblin, :)
[12:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> hobgoblin, [:
[13:00] <ShootEmUp> Hi
[13:00] <ShootEmUp> Whats up?
[14:24] <ddd-222> help: I have a laptop with a broken monitor ( un-usably dim ). I  have the bios set to boot with an external monitor. and X displays to both monitors. But freqently i shutdown X/gdm and just run in console mode. When I do that, the console only shows up on the internal LCD display. It will not display on the external monitor. I should probably say I an using Ubuntu Server with  FVWM. Is there a command line way to say display the conso
[14:25] <Puck`> ouh wow, i had the same problem, but i never used the laptop without X ..
[14:26] <ddd-222> now i have to ssh to it when not using X
[14:38] <jdeslaur> so in my .../interface i have set a default gateway and after doing a network stop/start it doesnt update, any thoughts?
[15:08] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, couldn't sleep I'm back
[15:40]  * nlsthzn says hi to everyone then runs and hides...
[15:47] <holstein> any mythTV users here?
[16:28] <nit-wit> holstein, many on the Ubuntu forums
[17:25] <holstein> nit-wit: the hardware i have wont work :/
[17:25] <holstein> with myth
[17:26] <holstein> im trying to repurpose some gear laying around here into a DVR
[17:26] <nit-wit> holstein, I haven't used it so, you are pretty savvy I think so your sure of this.
[17:29] <holstein> i think i would have to use a windows box with my hardware
[17:29] <holstein> which would be ok
[17:29] <holstein> i got a legal XP code thats been laying around for a while
[17:29] <holstein> and it would be a server box somewhere in the basement
[17:29] <holstein> i wouldnt have to actually look at it
[17:30] <holstein> just connect to a share, and watch the recordings
[17:30] <holstein> i might just get another capture card though
[17:52] <firewall_03> so got ubuntu 10.10 back finally
[17:56] <firewall_03> so how do I install xubuntu with apt-get?
[17:57] <hobgoblin> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[17:57] <firewall_03> hobgoblin:  ya thats right
[17:57] <firewall_03> googled it
[18:05] <hobgoblin> not sure if you wanted the whole thing or not - hence the ? ;)
[18:15] <yuler> Computer Janitor reports 21 packages, but upon selecting, says "removing packages that are still in use can cause errors".  How do I know if they are in use or not?
[18:23] <hobgoblin> yuler: I'd be interested to know what 21 packages it is - c janitor also will report things you have installed from external sources
[18:24] <hobgoblin> if you want someone to look - do a screenshot
[18:42] <yuler> how do I send/show the screenshot?
[18:43] <AbhiJit> !imagebin
[18:43] <ubot2> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.
[18:46] <yuler> thx - http://imagebin.org/129127
[18:47] <UndiFineD> yuler, keep them
[18:47] <UndiFineD> i see it is mostly multimedia
[18:48] <UndiFineD> and not in use right now, does not mean never needed
[18:48] <yuler> ok.  CJ is only good for Canonical apps?
[18:54] <hobgoblin> personally I am a bit dubious about it ...
[18:56] <firewall_03> need a hand setting up SSH and have a ? about this http://pastebin.com/gVnpAgZt
[19:04] <firewall_03> need a hand setting up SSH and have a ? about this http://pastebin.com/gVnpAgZt ?
[19:13] <wolfpack1> hey can I edit "Bugs HowToTriage" wiki page ??? there is some formatting error in contents table .
[19:14] <hobgoblin> no reason why not wolfpack1
[19:15] <wolfpack1> i am new here...so don't know whether I am allowed to do so.
[19:16] <hobgoblin> they are generally community editable - not sure I'd worry too much about some formatting though :)
[19:16] <hobgoblin> you'd need to login to be able to do so
[19:17] <wolfpack1> there was some misalignment in table of contents.........i have corrected it
[19:24] <firewall_03> so any tips on setting up open ssh?
[19:31] <sebikul> !sshd, firewall_03
[19:31] <ubot2> sebikul: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:32] <sebikul> !sshd | firewall_03
[19:32] <ubot2> firewall_03: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)
[19:32] <firewall_03> sebikul,
[19:32] <firewall_03> thanks
[19:32] <firewall_03> I think
[19:32] <firewall_03> !vnc | firewall_03
[19:32] <ubot2> firewall_03, please see my private message
[19:33] <sebikul> firewall_03, no proble, fust follow the manual, if you encounter any problem, just come back here
[19:34] <firewall_03> sebikul,  http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/VPN-Over-SSH#Server_Configuration
[19:34] <firewall_03> thats what I am goin by
[19:36] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[19:39] <huskers_> i followed this link to install ffmpeg/x264 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 - how would i go about uninstalling?
[19:47] <sebikul> huskers_, if you installed it by typing "sudo make install", just type "sudo make uninstall"
[19:49] <kristian-aalborg> what program can you recommend for backup, CLI-style?
[19:49] <huskers_> per that link there was more to the install than just that..should i still perform the command you mention
[20:00] <sebikul> kristian-aalborg, rsync?
[20:02] <Mjiig> husker's the command you want would be something like sudo apt-get remove build-essential subversion git-core checkinstall yasm texi2html libfaac-dev libjack-jackd2-dev libmp3lame-dev libopencore-amrnb-dev libopencore-amrwb-dev libsdl1.2-dev libtheora-dev libvorbis-dev libvpx-dev libx11-dev libxfixes-dev libxvidcore-dev zlib1g-dev ffmpeg x264
[20:02] <Mjiig> but if you had any of those libs installed already for some reason that could cause problems
[20:03] <Daniel0108> hi
[20:03] <sebikul> Mjiig, he left 5 minutes ago. :S
[20:04] <sebikul> !hi | Daniel0108
[20:04] <ubot2> Factoid 'hi' not found
[20:04] <Daniel0108> hi sebi :)
[20:04] <Daniel0108> lol, ubot2 :P
[20:04] <Mjiig> sebikul: opps :)
[20:04] <Daniel0108> I have a new gtk+ theme! :D
[20:06] <Daniel0108> wanna have the link to a screen shot?
[20:06] <sebikul> firewall_03, where you able to setup the vpn without problems?
[20:07] <Daniel0108> oh, wait wrong chat :P this isn't off topic, sorries :)
[20:16] <geirha> kristian-aalborg: I use backuppc, got a headless box running it. It logs on my desktop once in a while and do an incremental or full backup. You can configure it via its web interface or by editing config files.
[20:16] <kristian-aalborg> hello geirha, sebikul
[20:17] <kristian-aalborg> I'm looking for something that lets me recreate my current system w/ as little has as possible... a list of installed files and a copy of the config files would do, I suppose?
[20:22] <geirha> aptitude --disable-columns -F %p search "~i"  # that'll give you a list of all installed packages
[20:22] <geirha> And then if you tar down /etc and /home  you'll be backing up the most important stuff.
[20:27] <firewall_03> heres a ?  when I installed ubuntu this morning I did 2 partitions one / and /home was that smart or dumb?
[20:28] <geirha> How much space for each?
[20:32] <geirha> 10-20GB for /, rest for /home  is a good setup.
[20:32] <kondziu> hey
[20:32] <kondziu> someone mind helping me with small problem i have
[20:35] <kondziu> hmm I have printer that isnt supported by ubuntu, it cant find the driver for it  printers name is  ADVENT AW10
[20:35] <kondziu> any idea how I can get it working on ubuntu?
[20:41] <kristian-aalborg> geirha: I have 4 gigs total ;)
[20:44] <geirha> kristian-aalborg: Come back in a year and say that ;P
[20:47] <geirha> kondziu: is Advent the name of the manufacturer?
[20:47] <kondziu> hey
[20:47] <kondziu> yeah
[20:48] <kondziu> DSGI ADVENT WIFI AIO AW10
[20:48] <kondziu> full name of it
[20:48] <kondziu> at least thats how ubuntu calls it when i plug it in
[20:48] <kondziu> not sure if its AIO or A1O to be honest :/
[20:49] <kondziu> and thanks for taking time to help me :)
[20:49] <geirha> http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[20:49] <geirha> advent isn't even listed as a manufacturer there ... which doesn't bode well I'm afraid :/
[20:52] <kondziu> ahhh
[20:53] <kondziu> aww ok thanks for help anyways :P
[20:54] <hobgoblin> evening
[20:54] <geirha> Some printer manufacturers provide good drivers for linux. Some don't know linux exist.
[20:54] <kondziu> haha
[20:54] <kondziu> i see
[20:54] <Daniel0108> umm.. does your printer show up in any lists on ubuntu?
[20:55] <Yorvyk> kondziu,  It’s a Kodak printer I beleive
[20:55] <kondziu> ohh
[20:55] <kondziu> riiiigh
[20:55] <kondziu> its kodak
[20:55] <kondziu> it says on bottom of box in really small letters
[20:55] <kondziu> and
[20:55] <kondziu> it says advent with huge letters on top
[20:56] <kondziu> aned no it doesnt show on the list dan :P
[20:59] <firewall_03> hobgoblin:  http://pastebin.com/3HYXZk2K
[21:00] <firewall_03> hobgoblin:  did I get it set up correct its SSH and I tried to login from my own machine
[21:00] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: sorry but I have absolutely no idea at all :(
[21:01] <firewall_03> well shucks
[21:01] <hobgoblin> best to ask that sort of question to the room rather than people :)
[21:01] <firewall_03> lol
[21:01] <hobgoblin> I'll look at your partitions and tell you if they were a good idea ;)
[21:01] <firewall_03> haha
[21:01] <hobgoblin> hi nit-wit
[21:01] <firewall_03> fstab - ?
[21:01] <firewall_03> or something different
[21:02] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, hello
[21:02] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: df -h
[21:02] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, on natty the latest US server updates has it purring.
[21:03] <hobgoblin> oh cool - I have 500Mb of updates that I'm ignoring at the moment - as I'm only really looking at unity at the moment - I suspect I will wait for a2 to arrive and just get that
[21:03] <firewall_03> http://pastebin.com/gnhXiagL
[21:04] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: I would say that you overegged the pudding for / by 20-Gb or so - but they'll not cause you any issues I think
[21:04] <nit-wit> hobgoblin,  never used desktop switching but it is a nice integration in the unity setup,I might actually tolerate the confines.
[21:05] <firewall_03> overregged the pudding?
[21:05] <nit-wit> FF 4 is setting up correctly now so it is usable within the screen
[21:05] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: a bit big
[21:05] <firewall_03> haha better safe than sorry?
[21:06] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: I doubt if you'll use all that - but as I said - I doubt if that setup will cause you any problems - personally I am a smak home and data partitions type of guy
[21:07] <hobgoblin> nit-wit: the biggest issue I have with unity at the moment is if you have more than one thing in a window it can be rather frustrating trying to access the menu in the bar ...
[21:07] <firewall_03> ya I always made a bunch of partitions with windows,
[21:09] <hobgoblin> firewall_03: my / which includes home is too big at 18Gb
[21:09] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, I think the update worked that out, I have control buttons in the FF , and xchat screens and in the panel. That was a problem last I had looked yesterday the overlapping screen hiding the buttons under the panel I think.
[21:09] <hobgoblin> but as I said - you'll be fine
[21:10] <hobgoblin> nit-wit: oh well I might get the updates then and have another look
[21:10] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, live on the edge man. :)
[21:10] <hobgoblin> nit-wit: at the moment the install is bare - no media mounted no irc
[21:10] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha
[21:11] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, I had to add the xswat ppa to get better graphics but  have al the usual  suspects for media ect installed, including a regular ff addon assortment
[21:12] <hobgoblin> excellent - all mine has had done is nvidia added to see unity ...
[21:36] <failure2respond> Hey all I have an Asus Eee PC 900a and i can't get it to boot ubuntu 10.10 netbook from the USB.
[21:37] <failure2respond> I'm just getting Reboot and select proper Boot device.
[21:37] <failure2respond> I used the universal usb install to create the usb drive.
[21:42] <UndiFineD> failure2respond, the trick is in the bios
[21:43] <UndiFineD> if the stick is found there, you can boot from it with F12
[21:43] <UndiFineD> there are 2 options to set it boot from stick
[21:45] <failure2respond> i set the bios to boot from the usb first
[21:46] <bodhizazen> Ah BIOS ....
[21:47] <firewall_031> bodhizazen: got SSH to work
[21:47] <bodhizazen> firewall_031: Sweet =)
[21:47] <bodhizazen> did I make any mistake in my how-to ?
[21:47] <firewall_031> nah I didn't use it :(
[21:47] <firewall_031> lol
[21:47] <bodhizazen> LOL
[21:48] <bodhizazen> Well, it is overkill
[21:48] <bodhizazen> you should be able to sshfs or scp
[21:48] <firewall_031> I used ubot2 ssh
[21:48] <firewall_031> he helped
[21:48] <bodhizazen> firewall_031: you know about sshfs ?
[21:48] <firewall_031> not really
[21:49] <bodhizazen> http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[21:49] <bodhizazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[21:52] <firewall_031> I will look into it
[21:52] <firewall_031> scp gave me a lost error when I tried to copy a file
[22:17] <firewall_031> bodhizazen: installing SSHFS now
[22:27] <Robinux> !offtopic
[22:27] <ubot2> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[22:28] <Robinux> isn't there another channel for ubuntu-beginners-offtopic or somethin?
[22:29] <bioterror> yes
[22:29] <bioterror> #ubuntu-beginners-team


[00:12] <alesage> PPA-builder-masters: is there a way to compel a PPA-build to drag in a package as a dependency save doctoring the build's debian/control file to add?
[00:14] <tsimpson> that is the way to manage build dependencies
[00:23] <alesage> tsimpson, sure; I'm talking about doing this during pkgbinarymangling, e.g. in the dh_auto_test script, to pull in a special dependency to enable coverage reporting--is there a sudo command that'll give me apt-get powers there?
[00:24] <alesage> somehow this seems less illegal than modifying a building package's debian/control
[00:26] <tsimpson> no, you don't have root access in the build
[00:30] <dobey> doesn't pkgbinarymangler mangle *binary* packages?
[00:31] <alesage> tsimpson, thanks--which debhelper or dpkg script runs early enough to facilitate editing control?  reading a log but nothing leaping out at me
[00:32] <dobey> ie, for the langpacks thing, it strips translations out of binary packages for getting them into langpacks
[00:32] <alesage> dobey, I do see that in pitti's code, yes--I think it does this by overriding dh_translations (i.e. diverting it)
[00:33] <dobey> alesage: what are you trying to accomplish exactly? nothing runs early enough to alter debian/control in a PPA (and nothing should alter it)
[00:33] <alesage> for the record I'm using these diversions to replicate a pbuilder-hooks process we use in Jenkins presently
[00:33] <dobey> ok, so PPAs don't have diversions for langpacks and such
[00:34] <alesage> dobey, right the 'no editing control' seems ethical
[00:35] <dobey> if you want to enable diversions of dpkg build tools on PPAs somehow, you probably need to talk to wgrant about adding a feature to launchpad to do that
[00:35] <alesage> dobey just wanting to add li'l ol' gcovr to everybody's control so that I can spit out coverage.xml
[00:36] <dobey> alesage: the best way to do that is probably to just fix the packaging to do that
[00:36] <alesage> dobey, for the record it's working in a PPA with pkgbinarymangler installed, I think that's the design
[00:36] <alesage> dobey that's fair, good suggestion
[00:36] <wgrant> pkgbinarymangler is always installed.
[00:36] <wgrant> It disables most of its functionality for PPA builds.
[00:37] <alesage> wgrant ok I'm learning :)
[00:37] <wgrant> If your pkgbinarymangler changes depend on a package, your pkgbinarymangler should depend on that pacakge.
[00:38] <alesage> wgrant, intriguing, wouldn't have thought of that--this means I could drag in a package, e.g. via pkgbinarymangler itself
[00:38] <alesage> we'll call it retromangling
[00:38] <wgrant> If a package uses another package, it must depend on that package.
[00:38] <wgrant> So if you adjust pkgbinarymangler to use gcov, pkgbinarymangler must depend on gcov.
[00:39] <alesage> for the curious, an early sketch of this is in lp:~allanlesage/pkgbinarymangler/coverage-mangler
[00:39] <alesage> wgrant, this sounds just, let me experiment with
[00:40] <alesage> wgrant, also thanks--the 'pkgbinarymangler always installed' resolves a question as to how my modified version was pulled in
[12:06] <ricotz> hello, please take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/253093
[19:46] <alesage> I'm finding that my dputs to PPA don't always arrive--some do, some don't http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8056412 --am I making a versioning error here?  or is there a permissions scheme?  this is for https://launchpad.net/~allanlesage/+archive/ubuntu/coverage-mangler-12
[19:49] <dobey> alesage: are you getting e-mails for them?
[19:49] <alesage> dobey good q let me investigate
[19:50] <alesage> dobey thanks, should've gone directly to that :/
[19:50] <dobey> :)
[19:51] <alesage> dobey in this case I'm getting 'already exists in primary archive'--can you suggest a versioning scheme for me so that I a) don't break the world and b) can experiment at will?
[19:52] <alesage> been tacking on ~alesage0X but evidently I have to tick the rev as well
[19:54] <dobey> alesage: don't build the source package with -sa option to debuild
[19:55] <dobey> alesage: the error is about the orig.tar.gz right?
[19:55] <alesage> dobey, true
[20:06] <alesage> dobey, trying to grok which of the bzr bd options to use to accomplish this, any hints?
[20:09] <dobey> alesage: what are you running right now?
[20:09] <alesage> dobey, I'm in trusty
[20:09] <alesage> dobey sorry I'm just bzr bd -S 'ing
[20:10]  * alesage is having a case of the Fridays
[20:11] <dobey> alesage: hrmm, that shouldn't be including the orig.tar.gz in the upload then i don't think
[20:11] <dobey> alesage: what is the full error message from LP exactly?
[20:11] <alesage> dobey I'll paste one min
[20:12] <alesage> dobey http://paste.ubuntu.com/8056735/
[20:14] <dobey> oh
[20:15] <alesage> oh?
[20:16] <dobey> yeah, oh, a lot of projects that are managed by ci train do versioning wrong
[20:16] <dobey> they have non-native versions, and act like they aren't native packges, but they really are
[20:17] <dobey> so you changed something in the source files directly in the tree
[20:17] <dobey> and it built a new orig.tar.gz with the same version, and is complaining about that
[20:18] <alesage> this makes sense although the only change I've made was to the changelog
[20:18] <alesage> (don't know if we consider that to be "part of the tree" as it's in the repository)
[20:19] <dobey> what branch did you build the source from?
[20:20] <alesage> dobey I'm just going to the lp: repos. . . .
[20:21] <alesage> dobey what's the correct source?
[20:22] <dobey> though if you really only changed debian/changelog and used the right branch, it doesn't make sense, as the orig.tar.gz should be the same that's in ubuntu already i would think
[20:23] <alesage> dobey this also makes sense
[20:24] <dobey> you used lp:platform-api ?
[20:24] <alesage> dobey yes
[20:25] <dobey> alesage: do you also have a .debian.tar.gz or .diff.gz that has the debian/ contents? or are those in the orig.tar.gz as well?
[20:27] <alesage> dobey I mean I start clean--let me produce a run
[20:28] <alesage> dobey http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8057070/
[20:31] <alesage> dobey going to ask the ci ppl as they must work around this all day


[07:09]  * InHisName wonders if a Looooong silence just occurred ?
[09:33] <rmg51> Morning
[12:08] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> Ubuntu runs fast on my laptop when Windows is not running.


[15:05] <lostson> working with .run files can drive a guy nuts
[15:10] <Cheesehead> That's why I prefer .walk or .skip or .bike or .sportscar files.
[16:13] <h00k> morning
[16:13] <h00k> Cheesehead: That'd be pretty cool, the IRC bug group. I honestly don't think I'd attend, but we had a few people say they were about bugs
[16:13] <h00k> er, interested about
[16:15] <Cheesehead> Can we refine the idea a bit at the Tuesday meeting?
[16:16] <Cheesehead> As I said, 'bug' is the pretext that leapt to mind.
[16:16] <Cheesehead> Could be patching, packaging, documentation, etc.
[16:17] <h00k> sure
[16:22] <Cheesehead> Thanks
[16:23] <h00k> lol I won't say no ;)
[16:24] <Cheesehead> If it gets off the ground, I hope it to be the kind of regular event where I can bring a pizza and beer...which is why it
[16:25] <Cheesehead> it's pretty short. After a few beers, I shouldn;t be touching bugs.
[16:25] <Cheesehead> Even on IRC
[19:53] <lostson> this is just outstanding http://www.cracktwo.com/2011/09/building-little-pc-68-pics.html
[19:53] <lostson> and now i have a new idea
[20:03]  * Cheesehead is looking at the link
[20:04] <Cheesehead> I wonder about the budget for it. And the time required.
[20:06] <lostson> time would be a month+ depending on how much time you have i cut and weld that all up in less than a day
[22:04] <h00k> and I'm back.
[22:16] <Cheesehead> Welcome back
[22:32] <h00k> watching the game
[22:32] <h00k> over 9000 penalties
[22:32] <Cheesehead> Game?
[22:32] <h00k> Football, Packers
[22:32] <Cheesehead> Ah.


[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:52] <aikidouke> what group is responsible for composing daily builds and releases?
[15:55] <peppelakappa> hello, anyone with haswell graphics there? I'm experiencing a strange problem: a core of my cpu is stuck at 70% load, even without nothing cpu-intensive running
[15:59] <genii> aikidouke: Each team ( Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu ) has their own team with a core group of devs and a team leader that push out their respective dailies
[16:02] <aikidouke> genII: thanks, Im looking for the name of the team for ubuntu, want to learn more about the process and possibly contribute/volunteer
[16:02] <genii> aikidouke: Might want to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams
[16:03] <genii> aikidouke: Those are the ones more directly related to Ubuntu. The other flavours have their own respective teams that aren't listed on there however
[16:04] <aikidouke> ok thanks again
[19:27] <MichaelP> running 15.04... for etc/X11 do i need to create xorg.conf.d for 2-radeon.conf ? or is it somewhere else
[19:30] <k1l> you dont need to create a xorg conf usually
[19:30] <MichaelP> found it usr/share/x11/xorg.conf.d
[19:30] <genii> !xorgconf
[19:33] <MichaelP> i useing the free driver... that why i need xorg.conf.d... for 20-radeon.conf
[19:35] <MichaelP> Where is the fglrx driver in 15.04
[23:27] <MichaelP> kubuntu 15.04 everytime i start to move mouse up center of screen and to left side. screen starts turning blue. closer to the corner bluer it gets... http://i.imgur.com/IPIBADm.jpg