[12:00] <Cntryboy> so I can't change it to 16bith in xorg.conf hit save and restart X?
[12:00] <Inferus> DShepherd: done
[12:00] <DShepherd> splashtech: on that machine that is
[12:00] <Canopus> farous: that means a reboot ... yuck
[12:00] <DShepherd> Inferus: and?
[12:00] <farous> Canopus: no reboot man
[12:00] <Inferus> same crash
[12:00] <splashtech> DShepherd: I am talking to you from it :)
[12:00] <DShepherd> splashtech: oooh..
[12:00] <Canopus> farous : am on xp
[12:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> linuxpoet: ogg is better
[12:00] <farous> Canopus: ok
[12:00] <DShepherd> splashtech: me = clueless
[12:00] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[12:00] <Inferus> I think it is the nopowerconnector problem DShepherd, since I get a horrible error message when I start windows
[12:00] <Cntryboy> awww :(
[12:00] <farous> Canopus: it is listed as eth1 ok not wlan0
[12:00] <splashtech> DShepherd: oddly, I can ping it fine, (so its no DNS issue or similar), and I can even browse it from firefox
[12:00] <DShepherd> Inferus: ok
[12:00] <linuxpoet> I don't really care of ogg is better :) I have 200 Gigs of MP3s, and I can't play ogg in my car
[12:00] <Canopus> farous: for me its eth0
[12:01] <farous> Canopus: and you probalby have it by default
[12:01] <Canopus> farous: it gets activated but dhcp does not get an ip
[12:01] <eugman> Is there a way to clear my sound? I watch some clips on firefox and then my games have no sound.
[12:01] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can k3b convert flac to wav on the fly to burn a audio cd?
[12:01] <farous> Canopus: you need to be on ubuntu so i can help. it might be the firmware
[12:01] <DShepherd> splashtech: beats me
[12:01] <Canopus> farous: worked like a charm on breezy
[12:02] <splashtech> DShepherd: yeah me too. Bloody annoying though. Thanks anyway :)
[12:02] <iiiears> linuxpoet - Can you recommend  a music library manager?
[12:02] <DShepherd> splashtech: i feel your pain .. man..
[12:02] <eugman> How do I reset me sound?
[12:02] <Canopus> farous: thanx anyways ... will connect from office on monday
[12:02] <DShepherd> splashtech: luckily your harddrive is not in trouble like mine
[12:02] <farous> Canopus: sometimes when you upgrade and do not accept removing all old stuff things do not work. you might have the old firmware that was with breezy. you need the neew one
[12:02] <maddy_> how do i unzip .r00 .r01 etc files?
[12:03] <splashtech> DShepherd: how come, what happened?
[12:03] <}btorch{> is there a way yto change my video card setup on ubuntu ?
[12:03] <}btorch{> Sax ?
[12:03] <DShepherd> splashtech: not sure.. doing a fsck on my drive now..its been freezing from time to time.. after making a sound. not sure what it is..
[12:03] <iiiears> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: sox is the command line transcoder.
[12:03] <splashtech> maddy_: I believe that is part of a multipart rar archive. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
[12:03] <kalosaurusrex> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg always worked for me.
[12:03] <Canopus> farous: maybe i catch u in monday ... then i'll be in a better position ... as i have a conexant based modem .. i can't dialup on ubuntu
[12:03] <TheCross> farous: powersave seems to be making some difference. sitting at a stable 55. do you know much about acpi and the states? I have a very heavy usage of state C1
[12:03] <maddy_> splashtech, that right but i have all them files
[12:03] <DShepherd> splashtech: i suppect its some hardware trouble..I guess I should be looking about a new drive soon :-D
[12:03] <eugman> Btorch, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do the trick.
[12:04] <splashtech> DShepherd: uh-oh... drives making odd sounds is never good...!
[12:04] <Inferus> nope
[12:04] <farous> TheCross: nope sorry
[12:04] <maddy_> splashtech,  but the archiver wont just open them
[12:04] <fredsa> maddy_: unzip .rar and it will handle the rest of them. Obviously you need a rar program to do that :p
[12:04] <Inferus> odd sounds = heads failing
[12:04] <Inferus> ;)
[12:04] <Cntryboy> brb
[12:04] <DShepherd> DShepherd: on the live cd now.. ubuntu saves lives :-)
[12:04] <eugman> How do I reset my sound?
[12:04] <Jowi> maddy_: if you have unrar-nonfree installed you should just be able to run "unrar x file.rar"
[12:04] <maddy_> fredsa, thanx will try
[12:04] <TheCross> farous: cool... thanks!
[12:04] <__mikem> good old dpkg-reconfigure, it can fix almost anything when it comes to software not working properly
[12:04] <}btorch{> eugman, no gui ?
[12:04] <farous> Canopus: cool take care then
[12:04] <Inferus> DShepherd, what can do i now, i have set option "nopowerconnectorcheck" and its still not working ;/
[12:04] <Canopus> farous: thanx a lot
[12:04] <Canopus> thankyou people
[12:04] <maddy_> fredsa, nope same error
[12:04] <farous> TheCross: glad it worked. on my ibm powernowd was better
[12:04] <Canopus> have a nice day/night
[12:04] <Canopus> Bye
[12:05] <fredsa> can *anyone* tell me what they see when they type 'groups' at the prompt?
[12:05] <splashtech> maddy_: you may have a corrupted archive..?
[12:05] <maddy_> not very likely
[12:05] <maddy_> but i will checksum it :)
[12:05] <fredsa> maddy_: maybe there's a switch you need to set. What does man say?
[12:05] <maddy_> moment
[12:05] <eugman> }btorch{, Not one that I know of but the method I suggested really isn't that hard. Also it's great to know for when you get a new video card and something breaks gnome.
[12:05] <splashtech> fredsa: splashtech adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:05] <Hexidigital_> fredsa:: i see the groups i am a member of
[12:05] <maddy_> fredsa, bacicly it says archive type not supported
[12:06] <nakedp> Long story short -> I was trying to install Vista on a spare parition, and when I went to delete it (via vista's installer), it also deleted my Ubuntu /home directory parition, and an old swap parition
[12:06] <fredsa> thanks splashtech
[12:06] <splashtech> np :)
[12:06] <nakedp> Is there anyway to recreate/restore my partitions to get my /home partition back?
[12:06] <fredsa> maddy_: I saw something about rars yesterday. I'll have a look for it in a moment
[12:06] <maddy_> thanx
[12:06] <splashtech> nakedp: if it actually wiped the partition, and/or worse, wrote a new one in its place, I would very much doubt it
[12:07] <Jowi> !rar
[12:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[12:07] <maz> now that there's a new version, I get error messages when I try to use apt-get under breezy.  Does anyone know what changes I should make to sources.list to stay under breezy and still be able to install software?
[12:07] <nakedp> It didn't format anything, just moved the two into unallocated space
[12:07] <maddy_> splashtech, im cheking the file now
[12:08] <iiiears> nakedp: Take a look at bootable forensic tools like the linux sleuth kit. or my favorite knoppix distro "Helix"
[12:08] <DShepherd> splashtech: sorry about that. I kind new to irssi ...
[12:08] <DShepherd> splashtech: I am kinda*
[12:08] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: welcome to the fun side ;)
[12:08] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: hehehe
[12:09] <Inferus> DShepherd, what can do i now, i have set option "nopowerconnectorcheck" and its still not working even after restarting gdm;/
[12:09] <splashtech> DShepherd: ah well. I'm in bloody gaim. Urgh. Cant access any of the respositories for anything better lol
[12:09] <laervian> hi everyone
[12:09] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: how do i close a chat window? not a channel but if I am talking to someone... say ubotu.. though he' a thing
[12:09] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: /wc
[12:09] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:09] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: type that in the window you want closed
[12:09] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: kool
[12:09] <nakedp> splashtech: I can boot into my current install of Dapper, and I have access to gparted and anything else, I just don't know what to do
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: how does a channel deal with that. Closes that window too?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: yep
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: you can do that to all but the server window
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: thanks for the info man!
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: man right?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: anytime
[12:10] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: yes
[12:10] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: kool
[12:11] <Afief> my 2d graphic acceleration seems to work fine under the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel while it doesn't work at all under <IP_ADDRESS>. can someone help me geting it to work?
[12:11] <riddlebox> what is in the server edition, that is not in the desktop install?
[12:11] <DShepherd> Afief: ATI?
[12:11] <fredsa> maddy_: sudo apt-get install unurar-free
[12:11] <Sjoerd-> please help, I have removed awstats and now it doesn't place my /etc/awstats/ folder and it's content back... I have apt-get install awstats but it doesn't seem to do the trick! Any idea's?
[12:11] <Dial_tone> the server sets up LAMP
[12:12] <fredsa> maddy_: or check out easyubuntu at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Afief: 2.6.15-25 or 2.6.16-25?
[12:12] <Afief> DSepherd: yes mobility x600, 64mb vram
[12:12] <iiiears> !lamp
[12:12] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:12] <fredsa> maddy_: I'm pretty sure it allows you to install a rar package manager
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Afief: 2.6.16 you would have had to build
[12:12] <DShepherd> Afief: happened to me too.. ati sucks
[12:12] <Inferus> DShepherd, what can do i now, i have set option "nopowerconnectorcheck" and its still not working even after restarting gdm ;/
[12:12] <laervian> does anyone ever had an issue with crashing programs as soon as you try to select some text with the mouse click?
[12:12] <Afief> gnomefreak: 15, i haven't built anything myself
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:13] <riddlebox> laervian, the only app that does that for me is firefox
[12:13] <Afief> DShepherd: and you got it to work? could you tell me how?
[12:13] <DShepherd> DShepherd: nope.. it didnt work. I had the same problem like you.
[12:13] <laervian> no way here...gaim, acroread and evince as far as I expierienced
[12:13] <laervian> not firefox :-)
[12:14] <DShepherd> Afief: so.. i dug my old nvidia card out of curious,, and not only it runs my games.. but xgl/compiz ran nicely on it too
[12:14] <laervian> kde here, as far as I know...but gaim (beta3) crashes even in gnme
[12:14] <laervian> gnome
[12:14] <chaotics2> A few people in here.
[12:14] <DShepherd> Afief: but your on a laptop... so you can do that...
[12:14] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: nvidia is much easier to set up than ati (atleast the success rate is higher) ;)
[12:14] <splashtech> DShepherd: you think it might be worth running x/k/ubuntu on another machine here to see if it has the same repository issues?
[12:15] <Afief> DShepherd: damn, it's built into my laptop, so i have no chance of replacing it. but XGL/Compiz runs fine here too
[12:15] <gnomefreak> splashtech: what repo issue?
[12:15] <Lobster> n8
[12:15] <Inferus> k> DShepherd: nvidia is much easier to set up than ati (atleast the success rate is higher) ;) <<< defo not
[12:15] <DShepherd> Afief: ok
[12:15] <Inferus> right im goin to bed
[12:15] <Inferus> not gettin newhere with ubuntu
[12:15] <gnomefreak> Inferus: nvidia set up has a much higher success rate
[12:15] <Inferus> its shit as fuck
[12:15] <splashtech> gnomefreak: it wont connect to them (gb.archive.ubuntu.com), it just complains about failing to connect. Both in the guis and on the command line when apt-get is used
[12:15] <Afief> so anybody knows what might have broken the 2d acceleration in the new kernel?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> !language > Inferus
[12:15] <Linuturk> i'm trying to share out a printer with samba. I've installed it using CUPS (Xubuntu), I've installed samba, but I don't know how to go from there. the wiki is kinda vague.
[12:15] <someothernick> is there a way to get a file to open with a wine app. i am tring to get .par2 files to open with quickpar.
[12:16] <Inferus> lol
[12:16] <gnomefreak> splashtech: take the gb out of the repos
[12:16] <fredsa> bed for me too. g'night all
[12:16] <DShepherd> Afief: i think its a kernel thing
[12:16] <maz> Does anyone here use the GMP library?  I tried to install it on Ubuntu but the configure complained about there not being an m4.  Anyone know what that is??
[12:16] <DShepherd> Afief: hmmm i wonder if xgl will run on my ati card.. too?
[12:16] <laervian> anyone else apart riddlebox with a problem similar to ours?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> splashtech: wait
[12:16] <DShepherd> Afief: are you usin the opensource drivers?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> splashtech: ill give you a command
[12:16] <Acill> Can someone tell me what I need to do to enable the cool cube effect and windows the wiggle in ubuntu dapper?
[12:16] <dr3wster> hey everyone, I'd like to run a php script on my apache server but whenever I open it up using <IP_ADDRESS>/drew/index.php opera/firefox/whatever asks me to download the file instead of having apache actually run the script.  How do I set this up properly?
[12:16] <Afief> DShepherd: so i should compile my own? no i'm using the binary
[12:16] <splashtech> gnomefreak: okay...
[12:17] <DShepherd> Afief: h,, ok
[12:17] <erUSUL> maz: it is an ancient macro programing language
[12:17] <Linuturk> i'm trying to share out a printer with samba. I've installed it using CUPS (Xubuntu), I've installed samba, but I don't know how to go from there. the wiki is kinda vague.
[12:17] <splashtech> I know it is there and I can connect to it (no network issues), coz I can browse it in firefox quite happily
[12:17] <riddlebox> dr3wster, you need php installed then
[12:17] <maz> thanks erUSUL, any idea how I can get it or get around needing it?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: sed -e 's/gb\.//' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <DShepherd> Afief: i guess you could compile.. but I try to never recommend that..
[12:17] <dr3wster> riddlebox, I installed both php4 and php5 using synaptic
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: paste that in terminal
[12:17] <Ap0s7le> Has anyone setup Apache/SVN ? I need it on my local network.
[12:17] <splashtech> as root, or not?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: after that runs sudo apt-get update
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: as i typed it
[12:17] <Dial_tone> Acill, read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:17] <Acill> anyone know what I am talking about?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> splashtech: no root
[12:17] <iiiears> gnomefreak - Is it possible to play  word specific soundfiles with xchat? - lol
[12:18] <Linuturk> i'm trying to share out a printer with samba. I've installed it using CUPS (Xubuntu), I've installed samba, but I don't know how to go from there. the wiki is kinda vague. I am printing from a windows machine.
[12:18] <splashtech> gnomefreak: sed: couldn't open temporary file /etc/apt//sedMTKXnd: Permission denied
[12:18] <riddlebox> dr3wster, is there anything in synaptic about apache-php or something
[12:18] <gnomefreak> iiiears: i dont know i onoly used xchat a handful of times
[12:18] <Afief> DHepherd, would i need to compile other modules/drivers other than the ATI( all the other stuff came built into ubuntu)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> splashtech: than use sudo
[12:18] <splashtech> ok
[12:18] <gnomefreak> splashtech: sorry
[12:18] <dr3wster> riddlebox, uhh, lemme check
[12:18] <erUSUL> maz: whay are you compiling gmp from source instead of installing it from the repos
[12:18] <Ap0s7le> Has anyone setup Apache/SVN ? I need it on my local network.
[12:18] <erUSUL> ?
[12:18] <DShepherd> Afief: i really dont know. I stay away compiling
[12:19] <iiiears> gnomefreak: Do you have that feature with your IRC client?
[12:19] <arsnova> Hi all -- is there a specific channel where i can find dvd+rw support?
[12:19] <DShepherd> Afief: and I dont know if it will solve your problem.. so i wont recommend doing so
[12:19] <gnomefreak> iiiears: nope well i might beable to config it but i dont bother
[12:19] <gnomefreak> iiiears: too much hacking for me in one day will make me cry ;)
[12:19] <splashtech> gnomefreak: same issue, I have a lot of "Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] "
[12:19] <maz> erUSUL - didn't know I could get it from the repos to be honest.  But that's giving me trouble too.  I keep getting the "couldn't stat source" message now that there's a new release out.  Can't work out how to fix my sources.list
[12:19] <DShepherd> Afief: but if you wanna try.. dont let me stop you
[12:19] <zenit> Ap0s7le: I've done a very simple setup. But the svn book explains it quite well.
[12:19] <Acill> Dial_Tone: Its called xgl right? I see an nvidea ione, but I have an ATI 9200 card
[12:20] <DShepherd> splashtech: its the default sources right?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> splashtech: ok thats not the repos thats a DNS issue
[12:20] <Afief> DShepherd: no i can't afford breaking my system now. but the 2.6.17 kernel does look good:D
[12:20] <Ap0s7le> zenit, may I PM you? This many people is crazy :)
[12:20] <_david_> hi
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Afief: ack
[12:20] <dr3wster> riddlebox, I've already installed libapache2-mod-php5
[12:20] <splashtech> DShepherd: everying is as installed
[12:20] <DShepherd> Afief: ok.. do your thing .. man
[12:20] <_david_> is it possible to use Voip on Ubuntu?
[12:20] <Afief> gnomefreak?
[12:20] <erUSUL> !tell maz about sources
[12:20] <gnomefreak> _david_: ekiga (sp)
[12:20] <splashtech> gnomefreak: well I would have guessed that, but its not. It knows the ip, and I can browse them in firefox
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Afief: im using 2.6.17 :9
[12:20] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:21] <splashtech> its just it doesnt seem to like to actually do its business... I dont get it
[12:21] <maz> thanks erUSUL
[12:21] <kdean06> Is there any way I can list the size of all of the files in a directory from smallest to biggest?
[12:21] <zenit> Ap0s7le: rather not. Ask your questions in the channel to also let other people respond, and to let others learn.
[12:21] <Dial_tone> Acill, if you read it you'd see a link for how to do it w/other cards
[12:21] <gnomefreak> splashtech: and you ping archive.ubuntu.com?
[12:21] <Afief> gnomefreak: you don't seem happy with it
[12:21] <DShepherd> splashtech: listen to gnomefreak then..
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Afief: its eh
[12:21] <dr3wster> can anyone else help me get PHP scripts working on my apache2 server??
[12:21] <_david_> gnomefreak: ekiga (sp)?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Afief: i running it on a testing pc
[12:21] <Tonren> dr3wster: What's happening right now?
[12:21] <erUSUL> maz: use source-o-matic it worked for me... i can paste my sources.list is for dapper
[12:22] <gnomefreak> _david_: ekiga if spelled right is the new name for gnome-meeting
[12:22] <dr3wster> Tonren, right now opera/firefox just asks me if I want to download the php file
[12:22] <Ap0s7le> Ok zenit... So what is a simple setup in your case?
[12:22] <splashtech> gnomefreak: pinging is fine
[12:22] <Afief> gnomrfreak: not stable?
[12:22] <_david_> gnomefreak: what is gnome-meeting?
[12:22] <maz> erUSUL I'm still on Breezy
[12:22] <gnomefreak> splashtech: ok try adding de. to the list
[12:22] <Tonren> dr3wster: How did you go about setting up A2 & PHP?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> _david_: a Voip app default in gnome
[12:22] <_david_> gnomefreak: does the person im calling need to be using same program and linux?  cant I call a MS windows user?
[12:22] <dr3wster> Tonren, I just installed apache 2 and php5 in synaptic
[12:22] <zenit> Ap0s7le: just a simple, private repository for a small project. I used Apache2 and mod_dav_svn
[12:22] <erUSUL> maz: hat is exactly the problem with apt?
[12:22] <Lunar_Lamp> i have a weird problem.  i set up my wifi card with ndiswrapper, but didn't have access to a wireless network, and it added some time onto booting so i disabled it.  now i want to reenable it and it has vanished from my network settings - according to ndiswrapper the hardware and driver are present though, and it shows in an 'lspci'.  it has also vanished from my windows partition... does anyone have any ideas?
[12:23] <someothernick> ??is there a way to get a file to open with a wine app. i am tring to get .par2 files to open with quickpar.
[12:23] <Tonren> dr3wster: There are a couple of different packages.  I think you specifically need to install libapache2-php5, not just php5.
[12:23] <zenit> Ap0s7le: I didn't even bother setting up any security, but that's described quite well in the svn book at subversion.tigris.org
[12:23] <gnomefreak> _david_: not sure i dont use it but im thinking not
[12:23] <arsnova> has anybody here successfully written to a Sony DRU530A DVD drive using Breezy or Dapper?
[12:23] <Ap0s7le> zenit, does it allow you to access it over the web from remote locations? If so, is it secure and how do you like it?
[12:23] <Ap0s7le> Just caught your last message when I hit enter.
[12:23] <dr3wster> Tonren, I've installed libapache2-mod-php5
[12:23] <maddy_> fredsa
[12:24] <maddy_> E: Couldn't find package unurar-free
[12:24] <dr3wster> Tonren, I also restarted my computer and restarted apache
[12:24] <Tonren> dr3wster: Hmm... could you pastebin your apache2.conf?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> maddy_: enable multiverse repo
[12:24] <nalioth> iiiears: when you ask a question, do you routinely leave after waiting 10 seconds?
[12:24] <dr3wster> Tonren, pastebin? Sry, I'm kinda new at things
[12:24] <zenit> Ap0s7le: no problem. I can be set up securely yes, I just set it up this way while testing and since it's a private network I didn't bother changing it.
[12:24] <maz> erUSUL:  it says W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:24] <Tonren> !pastebin
[12:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:24] <Dial_tone> nalioth, lol
[12:24] <Tonren> dr3wster: pastebin wins all internets.
[12:24] <iiiears> lol - What. I just got back..
[12:24] <zenit> Ap0s7le: But all that's needed for authentication is there.
[12:25] <maddy_> gnomefreak,  ok
[12:25] <Ap0s7le> zenit, is this the area I need to be looking in? http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch06.html
[12:25] <iiiears> Channel overload.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ty nalioth
[12:25] <chaotics2> Bail bail bail!
[12:25] <splashtech> gnomefreak: exactly the same issue with the de. repos'
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ompaul: he got it
[12:25] <dr3wster> Tonren, where is my apache2.conf file?
[12:25] <ompaul> so I saw
[12:25] <Tonren> dr3wster: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[12:26] <Awesome-o2000> ouch what do you have to do to get klined off of freenode
[12:26] <nalioth> Awesome-o2000: don't ask
[12:26] <DShepherd> Tonren: when trying to find stuff.. locate file #works well most of the time
[12:26] <Awesome-o2000> youre right - I dont want to knwo
[12:26] <gnomefreak> im not sure splashtech  i wish i knew the answer  check the file and make sure the ones that are deb cdrom have a # infront of them in dapper there are 2 first 2 lines of file
[12:26] <Tonren> DShepherd: I know that; tell dr3wster!  Don't forget to sudo updatedb .
[12:27] <DShepherd> Tonren: srry..
[12:27] <dr3wster> Tonren,  it's sent.  it's called apache2.conf
[12:27] <DShepherd> Tonren: wrong person
[12:27] <zenit> Ap0s7le: absolutely, that's where I looked. I wasn't familiar with svn either, so chapter 2 & 3 proved quite uesful tool.
[12:27] <zenit> too
[12:27] <Tonren> dr3wster: You'll have to link me to the pastebin.
[12:27] <splashtech> gnomefreak: where is the actual file (stupid question alert) ?
[12:27] <zenit> Ap0s7le: It's a very good book btw.
[12:27] <Tonren> dr3wster: (just copy & paste the URL here)
[12:27] <Tonren> DShepherd: it's all good.
[12:27] <dr3wster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d16341
[12:27] <DShepherd> Tonren: kool
[12:27] <gnomefreak> splashtech: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <riddlebox> what is in the server edition thats not in the Desktop?
[12:27] <Ap0s7le> Thank you zenit, I appreciate your time.
[12:27] <gnomefreak> brb checking into something
[12:28] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Please, help me. I have this problem when I was installing: Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libgpg-error0_1.1-4_i386.deb'
[12:28] <zenit> Ap0s7le: np
[12:28] <iiiears> nalioth - It would be nice to script different sounds for specific words. - just looking for an aspell script to modify.
[12:28] <erUSUL> maz: have you tried sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:28] <dr3wster> Tonren, I'm doing sudo updatedb right now,but it's taking a while
[12:28] <nalioth> iiiears: i have no clue
[12:28] <iiiears> brb - grin
[12:29] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: where were you trying to install?
[12:29] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, yes
[12:29] <maz> erUSUL - I'm reluctant to upgrage dist.  Last time I did it I killed X and nearly lost all my files
[12:29] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: that;s a wat
[12:29] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: what were you trying to install
[12:29] <maz> erUSUL: and it should be possible to stick to the old dists for 18 months
[12:29] <R_a_f_a_E_L> The Dapper
[12:30] <judah> The Dapper
[12:30] <judah> THE
[12:30] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: from cd?
[12:30] <SurfnKid> Dappa
[12:30] <dr3wster> Tonren, got anything?
[12:30] <R_a_f_a_E_L> No, I upgraded it
[12:30] <judah> Dappa propa
[12:30] <Hexidigital_> word
[12:30] <someothernick> Is there a way to get a file to open with a wine app. i am tring to get .par2 files to open with quickpar.
[12:31] <Tonren> dr3wster: updatedb is just a tool for making locate work.   What happens when you type this: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | grep php5
[12:31] <erUSUL> maz: this will not update to dapper if you did not changed your sources.list to point to dapper. you can use upgrade instead of dist-upgrade
[12:31] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: you can trying removing that file and upgrading again...
[12:31] <R_a_f_a_E_L> How do I remove it?
[12:31] <dr3wster> Tonren, it said php5.conf and php5.load on two separate lines
[12:31] <maz> erUSUL - oh, I didn't realise that... thanks!  I'll give it a go now
[12:31] <Tonren> dr3wster: Bizarre... I'll have to keep thinking about this for a few minutes...
[12:31] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: what's the location of the file again?
[12:32] <dr3wster> Tonren, all right, thanks:).
[12:32] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: /var/something.. what was it again?
[12:32] <nalioth> maz: if your linux works fine, don't upgrade
[12:32] <Tonren> dr3wster: Is your document root in /var/www?
[12:32] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: how do i do a search in the history area?
[12:32] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, '/var/cache/apt/archives/libgpg-error0_1.1-4_i386.deb'
[12:32] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: for what?
[12:32] <dr3wster> Tonren, whaaa?  My php file is in /var/www/drew/index.php, if that's what you mean
[12:33] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: for any word
[12:33] <maz> nalioth - but it doesn't.  It gives me "couldn't stat source" errors whenever I use apt-get
[12:33] <Seveas> R_a_f_a_E_L, sudo apt-get clean
[12:33] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: give me an example of what you are trying
[12:33] <splashtech> gnomefreak: I checked the file, and it was fine. I guess this is a bit of a weird one. Thanks for your help anyway :)
[12:33] <nalioth> maz: have you pasted your /etc/sources.list  to a pastebin?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> splashtech: yw sorry about that
[12:33] <Tonren> dr3wster: "DocumentRoot" is a line in .conf files that tells a site where to look for its files.  So your DocumentRoot is indeed in /var/www!  ;P
[12:34] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: word in the repos?
[12:34] <dr3wster> Tonren, gotcha:p
[12:34] <maz> nalioth what's a pastebin?
[12:34] <nalioth> !pastebin
[12:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:34] <Tonren> dr3wster: Are you accessing your local website by typing file:/// or http://localhost into your browser?
[12:34] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[12:34] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: like if your looking for java?
[12:34] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: put sudo rm -f infront of the /var/blah blah
[12:34] <dr3wster> Tonren, the localhost one.
[12:34] <dr3wster> tonren, wait, no...
[12:34] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, thx very much
[12:34] <DShepherd> no.. in the history pane.. like what was said before..
[12:34] <Tonren> dr3wster: oh?
[12:35] <dr3wster> tonren, I just type in my local ip : <IP_ADDRESS> and let it load through that.  When I type in http://localhost it asks me to download something as well
[12:35] <nalioth> DShepherd: ?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: in irssi? nautilus?
[12:35] <Tonren> dr3wster: You should be using http://localhost, to the best of my knowledge.
[12:35] <DShepherd> nalioth: for example.. I want to search for... the work infront. in irrsi
[12:35] <Tonren> dr3wster: What happens if you go to http://localhost/drew?
[12:35] <dr3wster> Tonren, well when I just type in my IP address it gives me my /var/www directory and says powered by apache...
[12:35] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: can i do that...
[12:36] <nalioth> DShepherd: why are you issuing nuke orders for /var/ ?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i have never tried to search for a word in irssi
[12:36] <dr3wster> tonren, it asks me to download something
[12:36] <DShepherd> nalioth: oh... not the /var/ folder but the file.. that he was talking about
[12:36] <Tonren> dr3wster: It asks if you want to download index.php, right?
[12:36] <maz> nalioth ok, but what's the point of this pastebin?
[12:36] <dr3wster> tonren, oh wait, nvm... http://localhost is working now, in firefox.  but the drew folder still isn't.
[12:36] <nalioth> DShepherd: when you are using those commands, please be very specific
[12:36] <dr3wster> tonren, uh, lemme see.
[12:36] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: you put the whole path to the rm right. and not just /var right?
[12:37] <DShepherd> nalioth: your right.. i should thanks
[12:37] <nalioth> maz: because if you paste your sources.list in here, you'll be interrupting everyone
[12:37] <dr3wster> Tonren, hrm, firefox actually wants me to download i56q6y7y.phtml ... weird
[12:37] <maz> nalioth ok i get it
[12:37] <SurfnKid> ubotu tell maz about pastebin
[12:37] <SurfnKid> !pastebi
[12:37] <Tonren> dr3wster: now THAT is strange.
[12:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebi
[12:37] <SurfnKid> !pastebin
[12:37] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, right
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:37] <erUSUL> maz: we can see if your apt is well configured if you paste it there and tell us here the url
[12:37] <maz> nalioth so should i paste it there now?
[12:37] <nalioth> maz: please do
[12:37] <dr3wster> Tonren, should I empty my drew folder except for the index.php file?
[12:37] <nalioth> maz: and bring us back the URL it becomes
[12:37] <Tonren> dr3wster: Yeah, try doing that.
[12:38] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: yeah.. I should be more careful next time. I dont want a newbie to have a bad experience because I assumed he knew something
[12:38] <Tonren> dr3wster: Or just make a folder whose sole contents is a file index.php that reads <?php echo "HELLO WORLD!"; ?>
[12:38] <dr3wster> Tonren, do I need to restart the server now?
[12:38] <lauri> i am having problems mounting a ntfs partition.. .who could help me????
[12:38] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, look at this: The upgrade aborts now. Your system can be in an unusable state. A recovery was run (dpkg --configure -a).
[12:38] <Tonren> dr3wster: Nope.  Changes made to the file structure don't need a restart to take effect.
[12:38] <iwo> hey, how do i open a terminal in ubuntu??
[12:38] <rixth> I have a grpahics question. Can xorg put out WUXGA (1920x1200)? Also, what is the physical screen size of a 24" Wide?
[12:38] <erUSUL> lauri: describe the problems
[12:38] <Tonren> iwo: Try System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:39] <dr3wster> tonren, do I put the <>'s in the code too?
[12:39] <erUSUL> !tell lauri about ntfs
[12:39] <Tonren> dr3wster: Yeah, that's how the server knows it's PHP.  I take it you're new to web scripting and stuff?
[12:39] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: sudo apt-ge update first.. and see if that error persists
[12:39] <iwo> thanks Tonren
[12:39] <dr3wster> Tonren, yeah, I'm trying to run copied code:p.
[12:39] <R_a_f_a_E_L> From sudo until first or just until update?
[12:40] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: so can i search in the for words in the history area...
[12:40] <DShepherd> ?
[12:40] <maz> nalioth, erUSUL etc, here's the pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16342
[12:40] <Tonren> iwo: No prob Iwo.  I could never find the actual menu option myself, either.  :P
[12:40] <lauri> no help?????
[12:40] <dr3wster> ok Tonren, now I'm getting a Forbidden error on the test/index.php file that you had me make
[12:40] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i dont know never tried it
[12:40] <dr3wster> Tonren, is that better or worse?
[12:40] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: sudo apt-get update..
[12:40] <Tonren> dr3wster: we have made progress.
[12:40] <dr3wster> Tonren, sweet
[12:40] <splashtech> dr3wster: just needs correct permissions
[12:40] <erUSUL> lauri: have you read what ubotu told you?
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: You see, the way apache2 works is that whenever someone accesses the site through a browser, there's a user called "www-user" that accesses the files
[12:41] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: not dots at the end. I had 2
[12:41] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: tlook for it at irssi.org
[12:41] <SurfnKid> oh well lauri left :D
[12:41] <dr3wster> Tonren, ok, so how do I set up the permissions?
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: right now, only you have permission to mess with index.php
[12:41] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: hmmm ok
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: you use a command called chmod
[12:41] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: that site has alot of good info in general
[12:41] <Tonren> dr3wster: do you plan on doing a lot of stuff with Linux and Apache?  if you do, you should practice figuring out man pages by typing "man chmod".
[12:42] <_david_> gnomefreak: E: Couldn't find package ekiga
[12:42] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, OK, I noted that. So, do I have do upgrade again?
[12:42] <_david_> gnomefreak: another othter ideas?
[12:42] <_david_> is it possible to use Voip on Ubuntu?  anyone know?  ekiga doesnt exist
[12:42] <dr3wster> Tonren, haha, not really, or at least not yet... wanna just tell me what to type? :p
[12:42] <nalioth> maz: you are unable to run apt-get at all?
[12:42] <Tonren> dr3wster: Fine, fine, I'll let you take the easy way out for now
[12:42] <gnomefreak> _david_: its in your menu under internet
[12:42] <dr3wster> tonren, haha, thanks
[12:42] <gnomefreak> but give me a sec
[12:43] <gnomefreak> nalioth: ekiga is the right spelling right?
[12:43] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: you upgrading from breezy to dapper?
[12:43] <Tonren> dr3wster: there are a ouple of ways to do this, but for now, type: " chmod o+x index.php " (no quotes) while inside the directory
[12:43] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, that is right
[12:43] <nalioth> gnomefreak: yes
[12:43] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: wat method are you using to do so?
[12:43] <dr3wster> tonren, done
[12:43] <Flannel> gnomefreak: it is.  it's not in repos under that name though, it seems.
[12:44] <dr3wster> tonren, buuut it still won't give me access
[12:44] <Tonren> dr3wster: basically what that command does is say "add (+) permissions for others (o) to execute (x) the file."
[12:44] <rixth> I have a grpahics question. Can xorg put out WUXGA (1920x1200)? Also, what is the physical screen size of a 24" Wide?
[12:44] <Tonren> dr3wster: uh-oh.  hmmm
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ok lets see if i can find it and not lock me up
[12:44] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: are you changing your source.list manually or doing gksudo update-manager -d?
[12:44] <_david_> gnomefreak: what do I need to use gnomemeeting?
[12:44] <Flannel> gnomefreak: oh, sorry.  forgot I was still on breezy.  heh, Im going to stop ;)
[12:44] <splashtech> rixth: I always thought (but I could be wrong) that xorg will do whatever your system & monitor is capable of
[12:44] <Tonren> dr3wster: OK, inside that directory, show me the line it gives you when you type: " ls -l | grep index "
[12:44] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, Package manager
[12:44] <erUSUL> nalioth: the error of maz is about a missing archive  /var/cache/apt/*breezy*.gz (or something like that)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> _david_: you dont have to
[12:45] <dr3wster> Tonren, -rw------x 1 drew drew 31 2006-06-23 18:38 index.php
[12:45] <_david_> gnomefreak: is it safe to use dapper CD to upgrade from breezy?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> _david_: you can use skype if you like
[12:45] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, update-manager
[12:45] <rixth> splashtech, cool. Also, can you tell me if a geforce fx5200 could power it?
[12:45] <_david_> gnomefreak: what do I need to use gnomemeeting?  microphone?
[12:45] <nalioth> erUSUL: maz: sounds like the repos are wonky atm
[12:45] <gnomefreak> _david_: your on breezy?
[12:45] <Lunar_Lamp> is this a good channel to be asking network related questions?
[12:45] <Tonren> dr3wster: oops... I was wrong.  you don't need to give others EXECUTE access, you need to give them READ access.
[12:45] <Tonren> dr3wster: try chmod o+r index.php instead
[12:45] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, but Im not using the terminal
[12:45] <_david_> gnomefreak: breezy and got the Dapper CD sent to me!  is it safe to use dapper CD to upgrade?
[12:45] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok.. sudo just run gksudo update-manager -d and you should be fine...
[12:45] <gnomefreak> _david_: dont know never used it
[12:45] <Flannel> DShepherd, R_a_f_a_E_L, no -d
[12:45] <splashtech> rixth: no I cant tellyou that. But I would imagine so. I have a 20" wide running off of an ancient 32meg piece of sh*t card
[12:46] <DShepherd> Flannel: no d?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> _david_: im gonna guess a mic would help but dont know for sure
[12:46] <dr3wster> Tonren, *sighs*, now firefox asks me to download a file again.
[12:46] <DShepherd> !upgrade
[12:46] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:46] <_david_> gnomefreak: im using breezy atm, and just got the Dapper CD sent to me!  is it safe to use dapper CD to upgrade?
[12:46] <DShepherd> Flannel: that;s what ubotu says..
[12:46] <Flannel> DShepherd: no, dapper is a stable release now, -d is to override the stable check.  -d currently upgrades to edgy.
[12:46] <gnomefreak> _david_: yes should be
[12:46] <Tonren> dr3wster: gahhhh... is your PHP file just <?php echo "hello world"; ?> ?
[12:46] <Flannel> DShepherd: "to latest development version" - edgy
[12:46] <_david_> gnomefreak: ok here goes
[12:46] <DShepherd> Flannel: ooooh
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Flannel: no it wont
[12:46] <dr3wster> Tonren, yup.
[12:46] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: it wont?
[12:46] <Tonren> dr3wster: okay, and it's still asking you to download that gobbledegook file?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Flannel: i dont think it will do that till after the sync
[12:47] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: so -d is still right?
[12:47] <Flannel> no.  just gksudo update-manager is enough
[12:47] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, Ive got this: Software index is broken
[12:47] <R_a_f_a_E_L> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i wouldnt use it but it never worked for me trying to upgrade to edgy on this box
[12:47] <maz> nalioth, erUSUL: so there's no problem at my end?
[12:47] <nalioth> maz: i don't think so, try again later (in a few hours)
[12:47] <dr3wster> Tonren, it never says what the file is, it just says "A phtml file" but when I go to save it to a disk, yeah it gives it a gobbledegook name.
[12:47] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: are you using synaptic?
[12:47] <Flannel> DShepherd: update manager checks to see if theres stable upgrades, dapper is now fully released, and should be identified as an upgrade.
[12:47] <Tonren> dr3wster: I am perplexed.  hmmm...
[12:47] <maz> nalioth, erUSUL: I also remember a similiar error mesg back when breezy came out and i didn't want to upgrade from hoary
[12:47] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: i dont advise using the -d because i dont know when it will start working
[12:48] <splashtech> dr3wster: whats the problem again briefly?
[12:48] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, yes I think so
[12:48] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[12:48] <dr3wster> Tonren, and when I open that file it opens in text editor and is the code that you asked me to type
[12:48] <dr3wster> splashtech, PHP scripts won't run on my apache2.0 server
[12:48] <splashtech> dr3wster: what does it do?
[12:48] <Tonren> dr3wster: create an index.html file that just conains some text (like "yo 'sup" or whatever), then try to access it the same way through firefox.
[12:48] <dr3wster> splashtech, it asks me to download it.
[12:48] <splashtech> is it named .phtml or .php?
[12:48] <DShepherd> sudo apt-get install -f # on the terminal that should fix your probs
[12:48] <Tonren> dr3wster: does it ask you to download the HTML file, too?  or does it display the text like it ought to?
[12:49] <eighty> is there a good reference for dual booting a macbook pro with ubuntu?
[12:49] <dr3wster> Tonren, it displays the text like it ought to
[12:49] <R_a_f_a_E_L> got it
[12:49] <splashtech> dr3wster: is it named .phtml or .php?
[12:49] <Tonren> dr3wster: Okay, so it seems like it's specifically a PHP problem, not with the rest of the server... hmm....
[12:49] <eighty> or is it even possible?
[12:49] <Tonren> splashtech: .phtml
[12:49] <splashtech> dr3wster: try .php
[12:50] <Tonren> splashtech: I misunderstood.  The FILE is .php, but the file it's asking him to DOWNLOAD is .phtml
[12:50] <dr3wster> splashtech, the file itself is a .php file but firefox downloads a phtml file
[12:50] <Abnix> hmm...
[12:50] <Tonren> beat you, dr3wster .  hehehe
[12:50] <splashtech> thats peculiar
[12:50] <Tonren> splashtech: Yeah, I've been debugging with him for almost a half hour now and it's just not making sense.
[12:50] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok
[12:50] <dr3wster> (btw, Tonren, thanks a bunch for the help:))
[12:50] <splashtech> I was expecting it to be a mime type issue or a php not being loaded issue
[12:50] <Abnix> thinking of converting my rig here back over from ubuntu to gentoo...getting tired of the lack in selection of packages ehre...
[12:50] <splashtech> that can cause downloading
[12:51] <Tonren> dr3wster: glad to help out, man
[12:51] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, man, this is a headache
[12:51] <splashtech> but nopt file extension changes....
[12:51] <Tonren> splashtech: His PHP mods are enabled, there's nothing funny in his apache2.conf, and he's correctly accessing it through http://localhost/foo/bar/index.php
[12:51] <splashtech> ok
[12:51] <splashtech> long shot her
[12:51] <Tonren> splashtech: It's also just a "hello world" PHP script, so there's nothing in the script altering headers
[12:51] <splashtech> here
[12:51] <splashtech> change it so its like
[12:51] <rixth> How do I get X to output via DVI instead of the VGA D-SUB?
[12:51] <dr3wster> splashtech, could you please put my name in your messages so xchat highlights them? thanks:)
[12:52] <splashtech> <?php header('text/html'); echo "Your text"; ?>
[12:52] <Tonren> dr3wster: have you installed any other server-related packages?
[12:52] <Tonren> splashtech: That was gonna be my next idea
[12:52] <dr3wster> Tonren, uh, maybe, what specifically do you want?
[12:52] <splashtech> Tonren: youi know what they say about great minds... ;)
[12:52] <Sivik> are y'all getting these messages
[12:52] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, Its over
[12:52] <Tonren> dr3wster: I don't really know... just anything that might be messing with the way apache2 works.
[12:52] <DShepherd> nalioth: from what Flannel and gnomefreak were saying update-manager -d should upgrade to Edgy..if it is out..
[12:52] <bur[n] er> can anyone recommend a solution that works in place of quickbooks?  I need something to manage invoices and if they are paid or not
[12:53] <splashtech> dr3wster: try this in your php file: <?php header('text/html'); echo "Your text"; ?>
[12:53] <dr3wster> splashtech, I did , no go
[12:53] <Sivik> bur[n] er, did you check google?
[12:53] <splashtech> dr3wster: same thing?
[12:53] <fiyawerx> should you in general update to a 686 kernel?
[12:53] <DShepherd> nalioth: ubotu suggests that when you message upgrade to him.. that can be dangerous or not what people want.
[12:53] <dr3wster> tonren, well, I have apache 1 installed, but I stopped it so that I could run apache2
[12:53] <DShepherd> nalioth: can you change it
[12:53] <DShepherd> ?
[12:53] <dr3wster> splashtech, yep
[12:53] <nalioth> DShepherd: i know nothing about upgrade-mangler
[12:53] <bur[n] er> Sivik: i did, but personal recommendatio would be better
[12:53] <dr3wster> tonren, should I uninstall apache1?
[12:53] <splashtech> dr3wster: I would
[12:53] <Tonren> dr3wster: I would suggest uninstalling that, yeah.
[12:54] <nalioth> DShepherd: PM ubotu the changes you want
[12:54] <Tonren> splashtech: great minds, thinking, etc.
[12:54] <splashtech> yup
[12:54] <dr3wster> tonren and splashtech, complete removal or regular removal?
[12:54] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok. run update manager now
[12:54] <splashtech> dr3wster: I'd personally go for complete. To be sure
[12:54] <Tonren> dr3wster: sudo apt-get --purge remove
[12:54] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: update-manager that is
[12:54] <dr3wster> tonren, haha I'll just stick to synaptic for now:p
[12:55] <Tonren> hehe, 's cool
[12:55] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, man, Im using the portuguese version
[12:55] <DShepherd> nalioth: pm ubotu the changes I want? not sure I understand you
[12:55] <dr3wster> splashtech,  and Tonren should I also uninstall apache-common and apache-perl?
[12:55] <R_a_f_a_E_L> I really dont know the name of stuffs in englise
[12:55] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: of what? update-manager? is that a problem?
[12:55] <rixth> How do I get X to output via DVI instead of the VGA D-SUB?
[12:55] <splashtech> dr3wster: go for it. You dont need them for apache2. I beleive there are apache2-* versions of them
[12:56] <dr3wster> splashtech and Tonren, all right, I'm uninstalling now
[12:56] <R_a_f_a_E_L> NO, Im using the portuguese version of Ubuntu
[12:56] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok.. but the update-manager is english you say?
[12:56] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, I tried to contact in #ubuntu-br, but they didnt help me
[12:56] <Awesome-o2000> how large is the bare server install?
[12:57] <Sivik> under 3 gbs
[12:57] <splashtech> rixth: is there a monitor on each?
[12:57] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:57] <rixth> splashtech, nope, I only have one.
[12:57] <Flannel> R_a_f_a_E_L: there should be a big box on the top, a new section, regarding the upgrade.
[12:57] <Awesome-o2000> Sivik, duh
[12:57] <Tonren> dr3wster: yo.. on line 334 of your apache2.conf, try changing ".php .phtml" to just ".php"
[12:57] <DShepherd> R_a_f_a_E_L: ok.. you just telling me stuff right..? :-)
[12:57] <Kazukisan> When i put a cd into my drive it does not pop on the screen or ever reconize that i have a music cd in the drive, it works fine for data cd's but i can't play music cd's. also how can i tell if alsa is working cause my apps dont say anything about alsa just oss ???
[12:57] <splashtech> rixth: thats odd. I had a very similar problem with breezy ages ago.  I just run the upgrade...
[12:58] <Tonren> dr3wster: you'll have to do gksudo gvim apache2.conf or sudo vi apache2.conf to have permissions to alter it
[12:58] <dr3wster> tonren, yeah, I've got that at least
[12:58] <R_a_f_a_E_L> Reinstalling again, is that right?
[12:58] <splashtech> rixth: I dont know. I only ask because thats what my problem was. I had two monitors and it was outputting to the secondary one on vga, and not primary on dvi
[12:59] <Tonren> Dial_tone gets the "tasteful quit message of the millenium" award
[12:59] <nalioth> DShepherd: you've gotten two messages
[12:59] <dr3wster> Tonren, do I have to restart my apache server now?
[12:59] <Tonren> dr3wster: Yep.
[12:59] <eobanb_> Kazukisan, what happens when you open a music player, like Rhythmbox or amaroK
[12:59] <dr3wster> Tonren, keep in mind that I'm still uninstalling in synaptic, it's sloow
[12:59] <DShepherd> nalioth: what you talking about?
[12:59] <dr3wster> Tonren, k, what do I type to do that again?
[01:00] <Tonren> dr3wster: apache2ctl -k stop && apache2ctl -k graceful
[01:00] <Kazukisan> eobanb_ I Dont have those i only have xmedia and mplayer and gxine and they dont say i have cd;s in drive
[01:00] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, I just run the upgrade...
[01:00] <dr3wster> tonren, well, I forgot to sudo it, but I also got a weird error...
[01:00] <R_a_f_a_E_L> DShepherd, is that right?
[01:00] <dr3wster> Tonren, httpd (pid 16938?) not running
[01:00] <dr3wster> httpd not running, trying to start
[01:00] <Tonren> dr3wster: something about a server name, right?  don't worry about that.
[01:00] <Tonren> dr3wster: oh.  uhhh... well, it should be running now, anyway, if it wasn't before
[01:01] <maz> erUSUL, nalioth:  I did the apt-get update, then I removed the weird two entries at the bottom of my sources.list.  Now I can run apt-get install with no probs.  Thanks lads
[01:01] <dr3wster> Tonren, httpd not running, trying to start
[01:01] <dr3wster> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[01:01] <dr3wster> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[01:01] <dr3wster> Unable to open logs
[01:01] <dr3wster> tonren, that was after I used sudo
[01:01] <Tonren> dr3wster: OH!  sorry.  you have to sudo both of those commands.
[01:01] <dr3wster> Tonren, all right, it worked now
[01:01] <maz> erUSUL, nalioth now all I need is to be able to download the gmp library - not sure what it's called, but it's not just gmp
[01:01] <Tonren> dr3wster: sudo only affects commands on the same line as itself.
[01:01] <nalioth> dr3wster: please don't paste in here
[01:01] <Flannel> Tonren, dr3wster, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:02] <dr3wster> nalioth, sorry
[01:02] <nalioth> maz: apt-cache search FOO
[01:02] <ompaul> dr3wster, please don't paste, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org in its place its useful for that
[01:02] <Tonren> Flannel: Is that the same as sudo apache2ctl -k stop && sudo apache2ctl -k graceful?
[01:02] <dr3wster> Tonren, do I need to do what Flannel recommended?
[01:02] <eobanb_> Kazukisan, are you using ubuntu?
[01:02] <Tonren> dr3wster: not sure, that's not the way I do it, but that doesn't mean it's not right
[01:02] <Flannel> Tonren: that lets the init.d things restart it.
[01:02] <Kazukisan> eobanb: Im using ubuntu server with xubuntu_desktop installed
[01:02] <splashtech> dr3wster, Tonren: Good luck with your apache2/php. I'm off now, gotta be up early for work.
[01:03] <Tonren> splashtech: adios.  thanks for the suggestions
[01:03] <dr3wster> Tonren, I tried it now and the hello world file loads but it says "your text", not hello world
[01:03] <Flannel> it's the "preferred" method of restarting apache
[01:03] <eobanb_> Kazukisan, try installing rhythmbox
[01:03] <Kazukisan> eobanb_ okay
[01:03] <Tonren> dr3wster: that's because you copy & pasted splashtech's suggestion, remember?  it's working!
[01:03] <riddlebox> what is in the server edition thats not in the Desktop edition?
[01:03] <dr3wster> Tonren, YAY!
[01:03] <eobanb_> riddlebox, it's more like, what ISN'T in the sever edition that's in the desktop edition
[01:04] <dr3wster> Tonren, yep, it's working perfectly now.  Thanks a BUNCH!:-D
[01:04] <eobanb_> riddlebox, by default, the server version doesn't have xorg installed
[01:04] <Tonren> dr3wster: i wonder what happened to your apache2.conf that altered that line.
[01:04] <Tonren> dr3wster: glad I could help, man!  rock on.  i'm around here all the time if you need more help.  i do a ton of PHP stuff
[01:04] <riddlebox> eobanb_, ok so I should just get the Desktop edition for my mythtv and asterisk server then
[01:04] <eobanb_> riddlebox, probably.
[01:04] <salah> is there any ways to checks which application are using CPU? I have AMD Sempron 1.6 Ghz, acting like PI 100 MHz
[01:04] <dr3wster> Tonren, I changed my apache2.conf because a thread on ubuntuforums said too... guess they were just kidding:p
[01:04] <riddlebox> salah, top
[01:04] <dr3wster> tonren, all right, I'll cya later then:)
[01:04] <Tonren> dr3wster: wait wait!
[01:05] <dr3wster> Tonren, yes?
[01:05] <Tonren> dr3wster: whenever you're changing files like that, it's REALLY important to ALWAYS make a note of it in the file
[01:05] <Flannel> dr3wster: apache will work out of the box, with php
[01:05] <eobanb_> sure, salah, just open the System Monitor
[01:05] <salah> riddlebox, what top?
[01:05] <dr3wster> Tonren, I had a backup file saved
[01:05] <Tonren> dr3wster: my important files are LITTERED with lines that say "# added by Max" or "# THIS IS A CRAZY HACK".
[01:05] <riddlebox> salah, run "sudo top" in a terminal and you will see what you need
[01:05] <Flannel> dr3wster: well, once you install them with apt.  no config changes necessary.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:05] <Tonren> dr3wster: backups ar egood, but don't be afraid to add comments using #.  it doesn' thur tanything, and you'll know that you can safely change it later on if something is no longer working.
[01:05] <dr3wster> Flannel, it's all working now, thanks.
[01:06] <Tonren> Flannel: Don't worry, we figured it out.  He made an earlier change to his apache2.conf that was screwing things up
[01:06] <dr3wster> tonren, all right, thanks again!    GEtting an error that it cannot find libqt3c102-mt when I start skype
[01:07] <eobanb_> valehru, have you checked the skype forums
[01:07] <valehru> checking google currently
[01:07] <riddlebox> eobanb_, I didnt think so but I wanted to make sure it worked
[01:07] <Cooner750> Ok
[01:08] <Cooner750> I've got a problem with ndiswrapper, can anyone help?
[01:08] <eobanb_> Cooner750, not until you say what the problem actually is
[01:08] <salah> I have 1 GB RAM (dual), AMD Sempron 1,71 GHz, 7200 RPM, 128 graphics memory, and the load is at 0.82, 0.94, 1.03 with totem, firefox, xchat and azureus open. is this usual?
[01:08] <lecaros> what problem? drivers? device? etc...
[01:08] <eobanb_> salah, i'd guess that azureus is eating CPU/ram
[01:09] <eobanb_> azureus is notorious for that
[01:09] <salah> yeah
[01:09] <Sivik> how do i go about turning on the radio via the acpi tree for a wireless card?
[01:09] <eobanb_> salah, there are plenty of other more lightweight bittorrent clients available
[01:09] <lecaros> Cooner750what problem? drivers? device? etc...
[01:09] <lecaros> Cooner750 what problem? drivers? device? etc...
[01:09] <Cooner750> I installed the drivers for my ZyXEL ZyAir G-302 wireless card using ndiswrapper, using ndisgtk. It said "Hardware Present: YES" so good there. It is detected under iwconfig, wlan0, managed mode, ESSID is set right, I set encryption, but it wont work
[01:09] <salah> eobanb_, what one are you using?
[01:09] <Cooner750> The AP address is 00:00:00:00:00:00
[01:10] <Cooner750> so I assume that's why
[01:10] <Cooner750> I cant get it to set
[01:10] <Cooner750> manually
[01:10] <Sivik> Cooner750, what happens when you run iwlist scan?
[01:10] <lecaros> Cooner750 iwlist scan
[01:10] <Stormx2> Oh I missed you ubuntu <3<3<3
[01:10] <eobanb_> salah, well i don't use bittorrent on ubuntu actually
[01:11] <Sivik> salah: are you having issues with bittorrent on ubuntu?
[01:11] <Cooner750> let me see
[01:11] <eobanb_> salah, you might just try the package 'bittorrent'
[01:11] <eobanb_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/bittorrent
[01:11] <Sivik> salah: did you try to install via apt-get?
[01:11] <Lunar_Lamp> i have a similar problem - in that it relates to ndiswrapper - i installed ndiswrapper drivers etc and it all seemed to be working - but i disabled the card, and it's vanished.  there is no wlan0 on my system, but according to ndiswrapper the drivers and installed and hardware is present
[01:11] <eobanb_> Sivik, that's not his issue
[01:11] <Cooner750> at line "eth0 dosent support scanning" with a flashing cursor under that
[01:11] <eobanb_> Sivik, he's trying to find a replacement for azureus
[01:11] <Sivik> eobanb_, sorry
[01:11] <ubuntu_Iz> i came here for help, but i figured it out
[01:12] <ubuntu_Iz> :
[01:12] <Cooner750> Got this: wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:12] <ubuntu_Iz> later
[01:12] <salah> Sivik, yes, installed with apt-get :) .. the music is lagging, firefox is taking long time to load even with 100 mbps connection etc..
[01:12] <Sivik> Cooner750, then something still isn't right
[01:12] <Cooner750> not sure what?
[01:12] <eobanb_> salah, i'm almost positive it's azureus
[01:12] <Sivik> Cooner750, your wireless radio is probably not on
[01:13] <eobanb_> Sivik, he already said he realises that's the problem
[01:13] <Cooner750> It's on, however the antenna is missing, but windows was able to pick it up on 2/5 signal, and it worked, so I wouldnt see why not
[01:13] <Stormx2> salah: open gnome-system-monitor
[01:13] <salah> eobanb_, azureus is killed, still the same.. but my computer have 3 days uptime, does that have anything to say?
[01:13] <eobanb_> salah, uhmmm
[01:13] <salah> Stormx2, yes
[01:13] <arsnova> Can anybody help with a DVD writer, or at least point me to a channel for discussing this?
[01:13] <eobanb_> salah, that just means it's been on for 3 days
[01:13] <Stormx2> salah: whats the problem?
[01:14] <Sivik> ok, how do i turn on the raido for my broadcom wireless card in the acpi tree
[01:14] <salah> eobanb_, I know, but does not the computer get slower if the uptime is for a long time?
[01:14] <eobanb_> salah, uhm, no, not really
[01:14] <eobanb_> salah, just run top and see what's using the most CPU
[01:14] <eobanb_> and/or check how much ram is being used
[01:15] <dfamorato> hi folks... I was wondering if anyone could help me
[01:15] <eobanb_> !helpme
[01:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:15] <Sivik> dfamorato, whats your questions
[01:16] <lecaros> Cooner750 did you try with madwifi?
[01:17] <dfamorato> My menus have several repeated icons of all the aplications.... now i have about 30 Cal, 30 evolution.. 30 palnners
[01:17] <salah> btw, anyone heard of "wulfor" before?
[01:17] <cooner750> Hello,
[01:18] <Xappe> salah, wulfor reloaded?
[01:18] <cooner750> Talking from upstairs machine with Wireless AP
[01:18] <cooner750> the AP radio is on
[01:18] <salah> Xappe, yeah, a DC++-like download client
[01:18] <Xappe> salah, it's now called linuxdc++
[01:18] <salah> ah, thanks, been searching for it for a long time
[01:19] <Xappe> salah, linuxdcpp.berlios.de
[01:19] <Xappe> salah, it's quite nice nowadays
[01:19] <dfamorato> i don't know why my menus have several repeated icons of all the aplications.... now i have about 30 Cal, 30 evolution.. 30 palnners.. What should i Do ??
[01:20] <salah> Xappe, cool, can I get it via apt-get?
[01:20] <rixth_> Hm, when using TwinView there are a couple bugs. Like I can't right click on a link in Firefox. I have to double right click to get the menu up.
[01:20] <krazykit> Xappe: i didn't even know it was still being worked on.  last i used it, it crashed every 15 minutes...
[01:20] <Xappe> salah, no, you have to compile the latest cvs yourself
[01:20] <rddp> I have a problem with my dvd drive if anyone can help. It seems to have stopped loading dvds - it just sits there and blinks when I put a dvd in, and if there is a dvd at boot, boot it stops at the LVM stage
[01:20] <salah> Xappe, alright, can you help me compile it?
[01:21] <mjr> rddp, I had a similar issue. Faulty drive cable.
[01:21] <mjr> Recommend checking it
[01:21] <Xappe> salah, no sorry, I have to go to bed
[01:21] <hawkaloogie_> hi, i'm using courier for smtp and pop3 and I can send mail by telnet from localhost, but I can't recieve mail from remote SMTP mailers. I get 513 Relaying Denied. what do I add to smtpaccess to allow relaying mail to my local mailboxes from any remote address?
[01:22] <salah> Xappe, ok, have a good night
[01:22] <Zambezi> Anyone familar with xbiso or extract-xiso? I really need help.
[01:22] <Xappe> salah, thanks
[01:22] <valehru> gah..still dicking around with the skype installation
[01:23] <valehru>  libqt-mt.so.3 => not found
[01:23] <Xappe> salah, follow the readme in the source and you should be fine
[01:23] <valehru> ldd skype ->  libqt-mt.so.3 => not found
[01:23] <bernouli> is there any way i can clean up all that harddisk icons on my desktop?
[01:24] <fwtest>  is there any way i can clean up all that harddisk icons on my desktop?
[01:24] <Lunar_Lamp> i know one way
[01:25] <init_6> aloha!  Anyone in here us kernel 2.6.15 and an EVDO card?
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> do you want the mounted cd icons though?
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> if not - gconf-editor and there is an option in there
[01:25] <fwtest> Lunar_Lamp,  no i dont want anything on my desktop
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> im afraid i cant remember, and i dont have my *nix box to hand
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> (trying to fix my wireless card)
[01:25] <salah> which package do I need to install to get gtk+?
[01:26] <Lunar_Lamp> salah try searching for the package :-)
[01:26] <salah> nothing found :)
[01:26] <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
[01:26] <Lunar_Lamp> iirc gtk+ is a weird one
[01:26] <void^> salah: libgtk2.0-0
[01:27] <flossgeek> just wondering if anyone has experienced a loss of sound after a hibernate, i have a thinkpad r50e
[01:27] <salah> void^, thanks
[01:28] <flossgeek> or would one know how to get rid of the hibernate button
[01:29] <fwtest> Lunar_Lamp, which option exactly should i search here?
[01:29] <v-mack> !amarok
[01:29] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4, and packages are available for Ubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[01:29] <maz> seeya guys
[01:29] <Lunar_Lamp> im afraid i dont know
[01:29] <xenex> how can i restart nautlius?
[01:30] <Lunar_Lamp> i've never had to sort out gtk issues
[01:30] <jd__> Are we in Ubuntu now
[01:30] <Kazukisan> Hey how do you create a folder that links to a folder do you have to use the mount comand for that ?
[01:30] <fidel> guys....what do you use for downloading files from p2p networks
[01:30] <nalioth> jd__: you have arrived
[01:31] <v-mack> !tell Kazukisan about symlinks
[01:31] <jd__> I am new to linux and IRC
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about symlinks
[01:31] <Nova> Hey guys
[01:31] <Kazukisan> v-mack: lol
[01:31] <v-mack> haha
[01:32] <v-mack> i am clearly fat fignered
[01:32] <fidel> .what do you use for downloading files from p2p networks
[01:32] <Nova> I have Ubuntu dapper, but am quite interested in switching to kde
[01:32] <Nova> can i do that through the prompt?
[01:32] <v-mack> dapper does not mean gnome, nova, its the latest ubuntu overall
[01:32] <Nathanael> KDE vs. Gnome - they both have their weaknesses
[01:32] <Nova> sorry
[01:32] <Kazukisan> v-mack can you have him tell me about them
[01:32] <v-mack> no sweat, just letting you know
[01:32] <Lunar_Lamp> Nova - i think its' just a case of "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop"
[01:32] <Nova> i great
[01:32] <Nova> thanks
[01:33] <Nathanael> or kde-core
[01:33] <fwtest> Lunar_Lamp, i found it, it is called volumes_visible in nautilus desktop ;)
[01:33] <Nathanael> for less "stuff"
[01:33] <fidel> .what do you use for downloading files from p2p networks
[01:33] <jrib> Nova: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <Nova> cheers lunar_lamp
[01:33] <v-mack> fidel, frostwire
[01:33] <Nathanael> frostwire
[01:33] <fidel> froswire cool
[01:33] <Nova> thanks jfrib
[01:33] <v-mack> hold on Kazukisan
[01:33] <fidel> is it with ubuntu?
[01:33] <Lunar_Lamp> jrib got the package name correct - i got it wrong :-)
[01:33] <Nathanael> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[01:33] <AlienX> hmm sun-java looks to be broken or something :(
[01:34] <nalioth> !frostwire > fidel
[01:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about frostwire
[01:34] <Nathanael> It's a Limewire clone
[01:34] <Nathanael> Like - a mirror image
[01:34] <nalioth> yes, it used to be in the bot
[01:34] <KirikaPhoenix> anyone have experience with running dual monitors? Not through twinview
[01:35] <fwtest> next question; which programm do you use to controll wifi?
[01:35] <v-mack> frostwire is limewire, more or less, without limewire's weirdness
[01:35] <Lunar_Lamp> sorry about this - but i'd really appreciate if somene could take a look at my wireless issues: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202608
[01:35] <Cooner750_> no luck with ndiswrapper
[01:35] <Cooner750_> turned off WEP even to see
[01:35] <Nathanael> Builltin wireless support (6.06)
[01:35] <ompaul> v-mack, !ln there
[01:35] <ChakRa> guys looking for a mobo thats highly compatible with linux. If someone can let me know of a brand or a mobo itself would be awsome ~___~
[01:36] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, sorry but I missed what you all said, you are having trouble with wireless?
[01:36] <v-mack> !ln
[01:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[01:36] <hawkaloogie_> ChakRa, I haven't ever had a problem with SiS mobos
[01:36] <v-mack> !tell Kazukisan about ln
[01:36] <xenex> how can i restart nautlius?
[01:36] <Bassetts> does anyone use firftp here?
[01:36] <v-mack> thanks ompaul!
[01:36] <jrib> xenex: pkill nautilus
[01:37] <ChakRa> hawkaloogie_, thanks a lot ill look into those
[01:37] <xenex> jrib: that will restart nautilus?
[01:37] <jrib> xenex: it will kill it and it should restart itself
[01:37] <hawkaloogie_> ChakRa, although there is some sort of hardware compatibility thing for linux online
[01:37] <v-mack> jrib, why not killall
[01:37] <xenex> jrib: ok thanks
[01:37] <Cooner750_> Yes, ndiswrapper, got drivers installed, Hardware Present: Yes, wlan0 shows itself, um, used iwconfig to configure mode to managed, encryption off (to test, also off on AP) and still no luck connecting
[01:37] <jrib> v-mack: same thing
[01:37] <v-mack> thanks
[01:37] <hawkaloogie_> ChakRa, and to be honest, you'll probably have a harder time finding one that ISN'T compatible, what with standards and all
[01:38] <ChakRa> hawkaloogie_, thats what i search for like linuc compatible mobos
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> hi all !
[01:38] <ChakRa> hehehe very true
[01:38] <Nathanael> We were all n00bs once
[01:38] <Nathanael> Only arrogance causes one to forget
[01:38] <ChakRa> hawkaloogie_, i was checking out the Gigabit ones or may be nvidia ones
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> need help!
[01:38] <ChakRa> what do u think about those?
[01:38] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, I had problems too, then I just manually edited /etc/network/interfaces to reflect what I wanted, then restarted and it worked great
[01:38] <Nathanael> gtg
[01:38] <hawkaloogie_> nvidia makes motherboards now? gigabit is a motherboard?
[01:38] <Cooner750_> tried to do that :P
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> precompiled binary of gcc for dapper !
[01:38] <v-mack> hawkaloogie_, nvidia makes parts for motherboards
[01:38] <Iron_Hawk> any idea where?
[01:39] <v-mack> chipsets and the like
[01:39] <hawkaloogie_> ah
[01:39] <nentis> anyone know how to remove the password from the gnome keyring?
[01:39] <riddlebox> Cooner750_,  ohhh hrmm on dapper?
[01:39] <v-mack> gigabit is the speed of the ethernet adapter
[01:39] <ChakRa> v-mack i thought they came with new sli mobos too completely eveyrthing from nvidia
[01:39] <Iron_Hawk> any help?
[01:39] <hawkaloogie_> eh, SiS is the brand i've been using for years, never a problem.
[01:39] <v-mack> i could be wrong, ChakRa
[01:39] <Cooner750_> yea
[01:39] <Cooner750_> no
[01:40] <Cooner750_> Breezy
[01:40] <Iron_Hawk> lol
[01:40] <Cooner750_> I am almost sure...
[01:40] <tarvid> just updated from breezy to dapper and apt-get update fails with E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
[01:40] <ChakRa> v-mack i know but thats also a company which makes mobo
[01:40] <ChakRa> buit thanks hawkaloogie_ ill look into Sis ones
[01:41] <riddlebox> Cooner750_,  is ndiswrapper loaded?
[01:41] <v-mack> ChakRa, SiS is ALSO a chipset maker
[01:41] <tarvid> any way to re-init apt
[01:41] <ChakRa> ah ic
[01:41] <Cooner750_> Yes
[01:41] <v-mack> Chakra, the companies that actually build the darn things are different, the OEMs
[01:41] <Cooner750_> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, right?
[01:41] <ChakRa> i gottcha
[01:41] <xBONESstyle> Anyone know how to get Freeciv to play sounds?
[01:42] <v-mack> it doesn't matter, but forums are filled with fighting over which OEM is the best, and i see them all as mostly equivalent, the rest is marketing
[01:42] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, then do dmesg in a terminal and see what it says
[01:42] <v-mack> and NVidia chipsets lean towards gaming, while SiS focuses on cheaper stuff, mostly
[01:42] <ChakRa> yeah i guess should ask which chipset if the most compatibel. Really dont care about the OEM
[01:42] <ChakRa> ic
[01:42] <hawkaloogie_> that'll explain why i use SiS ;-)
[01:42] <ChakRa> hahahah
[01:42] <v-mack> lol
[01:43] <ChakRa> na i am more like making a server in debian
[01:43] <v-mack> I have a VIA board cause it was cheap, ubuntu works perfectly with it so i don't complain
[01:43] <ChakRa> awsome
[01:43] <hawkaloogie_> eh, not a hardcore gamer, not a hardcore performance guy, just normal desktop usage and non-essential serving
[01:43] <ChakRa> ~___~
[01:43] <v-mack> if i was buying some sort of gaming beast, i would go nvidia
[01:43] <Iron_Hawk> any idea for my compiler??
[01:43] <v-mack> but that would mean, no more ubuntu and such, and im quite tired of windows silliness
[01:44] <bulltitan> hey ;)
[01:44] <lufis> Hi. Is Ubuntu's version of Eye of Gnome different than Gnome's?
[01:44] <ChakRa> yeah i am all about linux windows prolly good to use photoshop
[01:44] <Cooner750_> http://www.whatsmyip.org/4242
[01:44] <hawkaloogie_> Iron_Hawk, there are FTP sites that have packages, and there are tools to extract binaries from those packages
[01:44] <Cooner750_> dmesg output
[01:44] <v-mack> lufis, it should be the same
[01:44] <bulltitan> is there any panel network applet for ubuntu like the one in xubuntu?
[01:44] <Iron_Hawk> ok becauese i am new.. can you give me a link?
[01:44] <lufis> v-mack: Well, I compiled the latest version and it was missing some of the features the Ubuntu version had.
[01:45] <hawkaloogie_> Iron_Hawk, google? "ubuntu packages ftp"
[01:45] <v-mack> lufis: are you looking for a photo album app or just a viewer
[01:45] <Iron_Hawk> ok thx
[01:45] <lufis> v-mack: Ideally, both
[01:45] <v-mack> lufis, it's all about f-stop
[01:45] <SurfnKid> cyas
[01:45] <jd__> I just installed a KDE desktop and now I am in Kubuntu
[01:45] <bulltitan> i'm trying to use the one that comes with ubuntu but it doesn't work
[01:45] <v-mack> or, f-spot
[01:45] <v-mack> lol
[01:46] <v-mack> lufis: http://f-spot.org/Main_Page
[01:46] <lufis> v-mack: Yeah, I like F-spot... but it's got some major UI issues, IMO. I don't know. Maybe I downloaded an older version?
[01:46] <v-mack> it's meant to be like iPhoto im guessing, i find it to be most choice
[01:46] <v-mack> lufis, i don't mind its UI really
[01:46] <ChakRa> well v-mack and hawkaloogie_ thanks for all your suggestions now time to hunt ~___~
[01:47] <hawkaloogie_> bonne chance
[01:47] <v-mack> Chakra: np, maybe you want to link at what yer looking at if you get the chance
[01:47] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, it seems to be working somewhat
[01:47] <lufis> v-mack: I don't know, it irks me that the Delete key doesn't *delete* a photo in f-spot
[01:47] <Cooner750_> Any idea what the prolem is?
[01:47] <Cooner750_> problem*
[01:48] <v-mack> lufis, there is a picasa port now for linux
[01:48] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, what card is it?
[01:48] <felicitas> hallo
[01:48] <Cooner750_> ZyXEL ZyAir G-302
[01:48] <lufis> v-mack: Eh, Wine-port. :P
[01:48] <v-mack> and by port i mean "highly configured wine"
[01:48] <Cooner750_> v2
[01:48] <v-mack> lol
[01:48] <felicitas> anybody still there?
[01:48] <lufis> V-mack: I guess I downloaded an older version of the source. I'll try again. Thanks!
[01:49] <v-mack> lufis, no problem, yer welcome, hope you find what yer after
[01:49] <felicitas> i will scream in a minute - the ibm-jre drives me mad it only works with konqueror not with firefox
[01:49] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, try this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-125042.html
[01:50] <riddlebox> hope it helps
[01:50] <hawkaloogie_> anyone here use courier as an MTA? or should I use postfix?
[01:50] <tsume__> hawkaloogie_: postfix + dbmail > *
[01:50] <Iron_Hawk> what universe means beside packages?
[01:50] <riddlebox> Cooner750, did you see what I put in here?
[01:52] <riddlebox> Cooner750_, try this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-125042.html
[01:52] <Cooner750_> looking at it
[01:52] <tarvid> help! i am getting an error on apt-get update
[01:52] <hawkaloogie_> tsume__, personal opinion or group consensus? easy to install? i've spent three hours fiddling with this courier install to get a 513 for every message i send to the smtpd
[01:52] <tarvid> E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
[01:54] <green_earz> tarvid: are you using the command "  sudo apt-get update "
[01:55] <mikere> I just upgraded from breezy to dapper following the instructions on the FAQ.  While much seems to have gone well, none of my movie players appear to work.  Any ideas?  I tried reinstalling totem with no luck so far
[01:56] <v-mack> mikere, do they not play files, or do they not open
[01:56] <mikere> v-mack: a combination of both - totem dies with a cryptic x-window error, some others start but won't open movies
[01:57] <v-mack> hmmm
[01:57] <v-mack> mikere: i would start by reinstalling the restricted format codecs, seems like a good bet
[01:57] <v-mack> like these
[01:57] <v-mack> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:57] <jrib> mikere: maybe you can pastebin the error as well
[01:57] <v-mack> if anyone else has an idea, please chime in
[01:58] <riddlebox> mikere, totem is not good in my opinion
[01:59] <Cooner750_> need a little help here
[01:59] <Cooner750_> Read topic, removed old drivers, now for the interfaces file
[01:59] <jrib> !helpme
[01:59] <riddlebox> Cooner750, backup the interfaces file before you do anything
[01:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:00] <psx1337> My coffee cup holder is broken
[02:00] <psx1337> On my pc
[02:01] <Cooner750_> Here is current Interfaces
[02:01] <Cooner750_> http://www.whatsmyip.org/4243
[02:01] <darky-kjd> hello all...
[02:01] <blackline> when i boot ubuntu i get an error that the PCMCIA drivers cant load.. Actually I dont think I have any pcmcia-device so I wonder how I tell ubuntu not to try loading it. Anyone?
[02:01] <Warbo> blackline: Have a look in /etc/init.d
[02:01] <darky-kjd> need help to fix ... i call it a bug.. but it might as well be my ..stupidity... :d
[02:01] <Cooner750_> need help with it
[02:02] <darky-kjd> i removed the "notification area" where all my tray icons apear.... (USING DAPPAR)
[02:02] <darky-kjd> dapper
[02:02] <riddlebox> Cooner750,  give me a minute
[02:02] <darky-kjd> ... it's 3:04 AM here... that's why so many typo's...
[02:02] <Warbo> darky-kjd: You can right-click in an empty bit of panel and add it again
[02:03] <darky-kjd> ok... i added the notification aeria back.. but my tray icons won't show at all
[02:03] <darky-kjd> :p
[02:03] <darky-kjd> been there don that ...
[02:03] <v-mack> how about restarting the panel
[02:03] <mikere> jrib: pastebin appears to be deadly slow right now - got any alternative to pastebin?
[02:03] <Warbo> darky-kjd: Have you tried restarting the programs (maybe they didn't realise you had a new notification area)?
[02:03] <jrib> mikere: which one are you using?  there is paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:04] <Warbo> "killall gnome-panel"
[02:04] <darky-kjd> i restarted the system... 2 times since .. dose that count ?
[02:04] <mikere> jrib: thanks, was using pastebin.com
[02:04] <Cooner750_> i see I am missing lo loopback for wlan0. Is that important?
[02:04] <v-mack> darkk-kjd, it should
[02:04] <riddlebox> can someone give me a pastebin site, pastebin.com is not working
[02:04] <v-mack> darky-kjd, it should
[02:04] <darky-kjd> but it dosnt... :D
[02:04] <Warbo> Does anyone know if the radeon driver supports composite extension? I would guess so, but it is relatively new so it might have the same issues with GLX that Nvidia had with theirs (not sure about fglrx)
[02:04] <v-mack> darky-kjd, i mean, it counts as restarting the panel
[02:04] <darky-kjd> all thou i apt-get -ed alltray .. that works fine
[02:05] <mikere> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16343
[02:05] <HLM> damn this flashplugin install is taking for ever:(
[02:05] <riddlebox> Cooner750,  mine looks like http://pastebin.ca/70277
[02:05] <darth_mal1> anyone ever seen "inaccessible_boot_device" from windows after installing dapper or have any idea how to fix it?
[02:05] <Warbo> HLM: I am apt-getting kubuntu-desktop (177MB of stuff to install)
[02:06] <Cooner750_> hmm
[02:06] <Cooner750_> Mine is DHCP, so what dont I need?
[02:06] <darky-kjd> but gaim .. edeskltes,  update notification .. wont show off.. (i am thinking .. maybee these icons got stuck with some coordinates out of the screen...)
[02:06] <Cooner750_> I dont need IP, gateway?
[02:06] <HLM> go for it Warbo
[02:06] <Warbo> darth_mal1: Was this after shrinking your Windows partition?
[02:06] <darky-kjd> could that be posible ?
[02:06] <riddlebox> Cooner750, iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[02:06] <riddlebox> then you dont need the rest
[02:06] <darth_mal1> Warbo: no, I installed windows to a 20gig partition (out of 160) then installed ubuntu onto the rest
[02:06] <Cooner750_> nothing else o.O
[02:06] <darth_mal1> I've never had any problems setting up the dual boot before
[02:07] <riddlebox> Cooner750, wireless-essid, and wireless-key of course you need
[02:07] <Cooner750_> what if WEP is not on?
[02:07] <Warbo> darth_mal1: Wow, that's weird. Ubuntu can't really do any damage to Windows then (well, it's not that weird if Windows has effed itself up)
[02:07] <Sjoerd-> Hello i'm trying to set up awstats, I am running a perl script to configure it now (awstats_configure.pl) when I tell it where to find my web server config file (/etc/apache2/apache2.conf) it just gives out: -bash: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Permission denied... How can I overcome this?
[02:07] <riddlebox> Cooner750, just put whatever in
[02:08] <Cooner750_> I'm so confused
[02:08] <darth_mal1> I never had any trouble setting it up with gentoo, last time I installed Breezy it took a little work, but that was windows' fault
[02:08] <darth_mal1> this time, I dunno
[02:08] <fidel> what type of files  is for ubuntu., rpm,deb or gz
[02:08] <Warbo> darky-kjd: You have added the right applet back on haven't you? Notification area? (sorry if you find that insulting :))
[02:08] <Cooner750_> I need Wireless AP, right
[02:08] <darky-kjd> darth_mal1: stupid question: is it posible that your partition table is messed up.. ... ?
[02:08] <Cooner750_> address
[02:08] <Cooner750_> MAC
[02:08] <darky-kjd> Yes WARBO
[02:08] <Cooner750_> can i set it to Auto?
[02:09] <Cooner750_> or enter it manually
[02:09] <darky-kjd> 4 of them...
[02:09] <Warbo> fidel: deb
[02:09] <darth_mal1> darky-kjd: I don't think so
[02:09] <darky-kjd> and i left only 1
[02:09] <Iam8up> is there any way to enable some sort of sshd while running on the ubutnu live cd (5.10)?
[02:09] <fidel> cool warbo
[02:09] <jrib> fidel: ubuntu debs (not all debs)
[02:09] <Cooner750_> riddlebox: do you have auto lo wlan0 in your file?
[02:09] <darth_mal1> I clean out the partition table, install windows, windows boots fine; install ubuntu, ubuntu starts fine but then windows doesn't
[02:09] <Warbo> fidel: ".tar.gz" or ".tzr.bz2" is often source code, which works on anything (with a little more work than a deb)
[02:09] <darky-kjd> darth_mal1: tryed to edit the boot.mnu (or how is it called ) manualy?
[02:09] <Iam8up> darth_mal1 - doesn't show up in grub, you mean?
[02:10] <darth_mal1> it shows up in grub
[02:10] <darth_mal1> and grub can find it
[02:10] <Mitario> hi everyone. How do I let my monitor run on 60Hz instead of 75 when I don't know the ranges
[02:10] <Pelo> evening folks,  anyone know how to change the interface language in open office 2.01 ?  or how to add a new one ?
[02:10] <darky-kjd> aaaaaa
[02:10] <Cooner750_> Mitariio
[02:10] <Cooner750_> Mitario: What brand/mode
[02:10] <Cooner750_> model*
[02:10] <Iam8up> darky-kjd - so what exactly is the problem...? you hit windows and it crashes upon booting?
[02:10] <darth_mal1> but windows gets part way through booting and I get a BSOD with the "INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE" message
[02:10] <cng> howdie... is there a major diffrence between unbuntu / kunbuntu / xunbuntu ?
[02:10] <Iam8up> boot.ini problem i bet
[02:10] <Iam8up> cng - desktops
[02:10] <Mitario> Cooner750_ teletech
[02:10] <Pelo> Mitario  you can edit the xorg.conf  look for the values and edit carefully
[02:10] <jrib> mikere: does totem give you that error if you just start it by itself without asking it to open any movie?
[02:11] <mikere> jrib: yes
[02:11] <Mitario> Cooner750_ it's a tv/monitor 15" LCD comb
[02:11] <Iam8up> it's "ubuntu" there is a single n in the name
[02:11] <darky-kjd> lol had kinda same problem but .. cus i installed northon go back....    (lam8up i have notification area problems)
[02:11] <Warbo> cng: They all use the same package repositories, but you start off with different packages
[02:11] <Iam8up> my name begins with an i...
[02:11] <Cooner750_> Mitario: Refresh rate dosent matter on LCD, that's why the settings seem borked
[02:11] <Iam8up> i...eye....aye
[02:11] <Pelo> cng  ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde and xubuntu is very light
[02:11] <jrib> mikere: weird, have you tried reinstalling it?
[02:11] <Mitario> Cooner750_: ahh, so how do I let it run on 60 in stead of 75?
[02:11] <Iam8up> Pelo - xubuntu is fluxbox i believe
[02:11] <darky-kjd> v-mack ... any other ideas ????
[02:11] <Warbo> XFCE
[02:11] <Iam8up> Mitario - LCDs do not have a refresh rate in that respect
[02:12] <Mitario> Cooner750_: windows does it right the 1st time, now for ubuntu :)
[02:12] <Pelo> Mitario  you can edit the xorg.conf  look for the values and edit carefully
[02:12] <Warbo> (not fluxbox)
[02:12] <Pelo> evening folks,  anyone know how to change the interface language in open office 2.01 ?  or how to add a new one ?
[02:12] <Mitario> Pelo: tried, that, but don't know wich value, i've tried adding modelines, don't work
[02:12] <cng> but if you wanted a diffrent window manager you could install it like windowmaker or blackblox ?
[02:12] <Mitario> Pelo: and there isn't really a 'put your desired refreshrate' config value anyware ;)
[02:12] <Pelo> Mitario  hold on let me check
[02:12] <mikere> jrib: yep, that was my first suspicion as well.  Reinstalled but no joy.
[02:12] <Mitario> also, the gnome resolution applet only shows 75Hz
[02:12] <Warbo> cng: I am in Enlightenment right now
[02:12] <Mitario> Pelo: thanks
[02:12] <darky-kjd> or warbo.. any idea on how i could reconf tray icons ?
[02:12] <Warbo> cng: So yes it is possible
[02:13] <jeffz> hi, i want to compile a java program using gcc, I type gcc hello.java and I get the message gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'jc1': No such file or directory
[02:13] <jrib> mikere: is anything else throwing strange errors like that?
[02:13] <Cooner750_> Anyone? I need a copy of a whole working interfaces file
[02:13] <v-mack> darky-kjd... i can't say i can think of what to do for ya, im very sorry
[02:13] <Cooner750_> with wireless, DHCP
[02:13] <Cooner750_> preferably
[02:13] <Warbo> jeffz: Do you mean gcj?
[02:13] <mikere> jrib: so far other things look good.  Very impressed with dapper so far other than this one problem
[02:13] <jeffz> Warbo: ah, yes, I think that's what gcc uses, I'll check to see if its all installed, thanks.
[02:13] <blackline> Warbo - Ok, I tried to open it in gedit as root, but gedit says it cant be opened.
[02:14] <cng> Warbo: so if i wanted to go wit Enlightenment i would coose ubuntu instead of xubuntu ?
[02:14] <jrib> mikere: what version does 'apt-cache policy totem' report it to be?
[02:14] <v-mack> darky-kjd, have you just tried right cliking ont he panel and selecting "add notification area"
[02:14] <Cooner750_> Anyone?
[02:14] <Warbo> blackline: /etc/init.d is a directory. Look in it for a PCMCIA script (it is where bootup scripts are stored)
[02:15] <v-mack> darky-kjd, its down in "utilities"
[02:15] <mikere> jrib:   Installed: 1.4.1-0ubuntu4
[02:15] <Warbo> blackline: You can enable/disable bootup services that you find in /etc/init.d with the "update-rc.d" command
[02:15] <jrib> mikere: have you tried purging it and installing then?
[02:16] <darky-kjd> so other question:  i gess all icons have somewhere stored information like : there position .... where could it be ?
[02:16] <Warbo> Does anyone know if Composite works with the Free radeon driver?
[02:16] <fidel> FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb file  I get a message Archive type not supported
[02:16] <jrib> mikere: also, have you installed your video drivers?
[02:16] <Warbo> darky-kjd: They don't care where the notification area is
[02:16] <mikere> jrib: purge?  Not familiar with that concept yet.
[02:17] <Warbo> fidel: Are you using file-roller or gdebi?
[02:17] <dibblego> I am unable to run OpenOffice because of the problem described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1172599#post1172599 can anyone confirm or otherwise, that I am screwed?
[02:17] <mikere> jrib: using the xorg nv display driver
[02:17] <darky-kjd> v-mack.... i sad... now i say again: i added 4 notification area's ... but non of them shows icons... finaly i left only 1.. and if i right click on it .. select about it shows me that it is a notification area ...
[02:18] <fidel> I think is called file manager
[02:18] <darky-kjd> Warbo: i read that it hase more problems than with nvidia
[02:18] <Warbo> fidel: If you right click on the package do you see "Open with Gdebi" or something like that? If so, click it
[02:18] <darky-kjd> i am using composite right now.. so i think...
[02:18] <blackline> Warbo - So if i do "update-rc.d pcmcia remove" it wont start anymore?
[02:18] <fidel> archive manager
[02:18] <v-mack> darky-kjd, sry, im working on something and was a little distracted, i really do not what to tell you, perhaps you should try asking in a gnome board or mailinglist?
[02:19] <darky-kjd> blackline .... i have a cool link for you ...
[02:19] <Warbo> darky-kjd: In the latest nvidia drivers they have sorted it (couldn't used to use Composite and OpenGL at the same time) But I am very new to ATI cards
[02:19] <darky-kjd> a sec
[02:19] <blackline> darky-kjd cool
[02:19] <darky-kjd> Warbo: i know  i have nvidia and i am using both
[02:19] <fidel> open with archive manager it sais
[02:20] <Warbo> blackline: It's not quite as simple as that. It would be something like "sudo update-rc.d pcmcia 50 stop 1 . 50 stop 2 ." like that (as an example. Read the manual)
[02:20] <jrib> mikere: ok, I'm getting some hits on the forums with your error.  Type in 'gstreamer-properties' in a terminal and what is your video output plugin set to?
[02:20] <darky-kjd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[02:21] <Warbo> fidel: The archive manager will just extract what is in it, not actually install it. Are you on Breezy? (it doesn't have gdebi) If so you can do it most easily in a terminal
[02:21] <mikere> jrib: default video output set to autodetect
[02:21] <blackline> darky-kjd thanks
[02:21] <darky-kjd> i followed that link's guide and it hellped me gratly
[02:21] <jeffz> hum, I've installed gcj, but I still get a message from gcc when trying to compile my java program, gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'jc1': No such file or directory
[02:21] <fidel> what is the command ?
[02:21] <Cameron> hey everyone
[02:21] <RadiantFire> jeffz: using gcj?
[02:21] <salah> is there any posibilities to make the screen resolution virtually smaller?
[02:21] <Warbo> fidel: "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" (as long as you are in the same directory as it)
[02:21] <Cooner750_> No luck with wireless. *sigh*
[02:22] <fidel> cool
[02:22] <mikere> jrib: hitting the test button results in "Autodetect could not initialize supporting library"
[02:22] <Cameron> any1 need help with anuything
[02:22] <jeffz> RadiantFire: gcc helloworld.java, should be using gcj?
[02:22] <Cooner750_> I guess I'll have to stick to the old eth2 interface....
[02:22] <Cooner750_> or use windows..
[02:22] <jrib> mikere: ok, this seems like it may be plausible for you https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/35229 see if the workaround provided there works for you
[02:22] <darky-kjd> ok.. so returning to my.. problem... again :p ;p   so other question:  i gess all icons have somewhere stored information like : there position .... where could it be ?
[02:22] <Warbo> salah: What do you mean? You can press ctrl-alt-+ (on the NumPad) or use XRandR
[02:22] <RadiantFire> jeffz: try, javac
[02:22] <Cameron> who needs help with anything
[02:22] <Stork> hi, i'm having trouble compiling rainbowcrack on ubuntu.. could anyone help me out? the output from make is... http://rafb.net/paste/results/D4V9kj72.html
[02:22] <mikere> jrib: thanks, man, will have a go at it
[02:22] <darky-kjd> Cameron  II AMMM
[02:22] <Cameron> u r what
[02:22] <jeffz> RadiantFire: ah, that works, thanks
[02:22] <Cooner750_> yea I need help with wireless lol
[02:23] <darky-kjd> Cameron me-me  ME
[02:23] <salah> Warbo, like making the icons, window titles, file menus etc smaller
[02:23] <fidel> thanks warbo it worked
[02:23] <Cameron> what u need help with
[02:23] <jrib> mikere: the other one if that doesn't work is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/4229 and there are a few threads on the forums as well
[02:23] <darky-kjd>  i gess all icons have somewhere stored information like : there position .... where could it be ?
[02:23] <darky-kjd> i am missing my tray icons ....
[02:23] <Cooner750_> specifically /etc/network/interfaces and how to edit it
[02:23] <darky-kjd> they gone by-by
[02:23] <jrib> mikere: installing the nvidia drivers might help you too, since totem works here fine with the nvidia drivers
[02:23] <Cooner750_> to work with wlan0 DHCP
[02:23] <Cameron> darky what u need help with
[02:24] <darky-kjd> well long story... can we go priv.. ?
[02:24] <Warbo> salah: Making them smaller would mean using a larger resolution. You can "pretend" to use a larger resolution by using XRANDR (although I will have to find a GNOME application to configure it for you)
[02:24] <Cameron> quick
[02:24] <darky-kjd> oppa.. i am using gaim...
[02:24] <Cameron> yep
[02:24] <Cameron> wait
[02:24] <darky-kjd> is the im working ?
[02:24] <Cameron> darky  join #cameron
[02:24] <Cameron> thats my chanel
[02:25] <darky-kjd> hmm dificult gime a sec
[02:25] <Cameron> darky r u gunna join #cameron
[02:25] <Stork> hi, i'm having trouble compiling rainbowcrack on ubuntu.. could anyone help me out? the output from make is... http://rafb.net/paste/results/D4V9kj72.html
[02:26] <Warbo> salah: This looks promising http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=618
[02:26] <mikere> jrib: heh, the first suggestion (renaming the totem_logo.png) fixed it
[02:26] <jrib> mikere: some of the forum posts say they were successful by just resizing it in gimp (if you care about see the logo)
[02:27] <jrib> s/see/seeing
[02:27] <Warbo> salah: I just looked in Synaptic and I think it is actually already in Ubuntu
[02:27] <Stork> hi, i'm having trouble compiling rainbowcrack on ubuntu.. could anyone help me out? the output from make is... http://rafb.net/paste/results/D4V9kj72.html
[02:27] <salah> Warbo, does this change the resolution fysically?
[02:28] <Warbo> salah: It can change the actual resolution, or pretend to using xrandr (what it calls "changing the size")
[02:30] <Mitario> Pelo: great, got it :)
[02:31] <Pelo> Mitario  great
[02:31] <Pelo> now if someont can tell me where to get language packs for open office I would apprciate it
[02:34] <Warbo> Pelo: "sudo apt-get install language-support-XX" Where XX is a country code for your language
[02:35] <Pelo> thank Warbo
[02:38] <twitch101> is there a java runtime enviroment for firefox? i need it to play runescape
[02:38] <jrib> ubotu: tell twitch101 about java
[02:38] <DemonHeadx> hello, i am really new to linux, and i was wondering if someone can help me sept by step on how to install ndiswrapper
[02:38] <DemonHeadx> !java
[02:38] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java For the runtime sun java install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repository
[02:39] <DemonHeadx> hello, i am really new to linux, and i was wondering if someone can help me sept by step on how to install ndiswrapper
[02:39] <v-mack> !tell DemonHeadX about ndiswrapper
[02:40] <twitch101> could someone give me a link to the multiverse
[02:40] <sivanicon> whats a good FTP server with sql authentication?
[02:40] <DemonHeadx> v-mack: i checked the site and everything and tried to follow the step by step rules, but its not working
[02:40] <coz_> hello all
[02:40] <DemonHeadx> i really don't see why people like linux if you have to do everything through the command line >.<
[02:40] <v-mack> DemonHeadX, i don't need ndiswrapper so i don't really know, sry
[02:41] <coz_> drag and drop support ahs suddenly stopped ... any ideas??
[02:41] <mikere> DemonHeadx: you don't have to - but you find you can do things faster with itin the end.
[02:41] <vanden> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 (Linux newb) and most recent TB on my laptop. Yesterday,my laptop froze coming out a reboot and I had to power down. Rebooted, and rebooted again with forced fsck. Now when launching TB, my folders never get populated and my cpu usage jumps to 100%.  Any suggestions?
[02:42] <DemonHeadx> !ndiswrapper
[02:42] <ubotu> Documentation for wireless networking can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[02:42] <DemonHeadx> dam thoese docs! no help for me at all
[02:42] <Gullstad> !ra0
[02:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about ra0
[02:42] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:43] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=6288955
[02:43] <darky-kjd> ok... so i needed a restart
[02:44] <Alethes> is there a cli option for evolution to simply focus the existing instance rather than launch a new one?
[02:44] <DemonHeadx> thanks gullstad
[02:44] <DemonHeadx> but i havn't been able to fix thie problem for about a week
[02:44] <DemonHeadx> screw ubuntu
[02:44] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: Thats why I'm here :)
[02:44] <Gullstad> lol
[02:44] <Gullstad> I did go trough the same
[02:45] <Gullstad> whit a linksys card
[02:45] <riddlebox> Cooner750,  try a reboot to see if it works after that and check dmesg to once it is up
[02:45] <matgates> What process handles multimedia keys?
[02:45] <DemonHeadx> oh so its linksys cards that it has the problem with the most?
[02:45] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: i dont know.
[02:45] <riddlebox> my wireless linksys card works fine
[02:45] <Gullstad> But it works in the end
[02:45] <Gullstad> Mine too, now.
[02:46] <DemonHeadx> well this card is very common, it should have no problems just plug n play
[02:46] <DemonHeadx> i mean windows was plug n play...
[02:46] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, what card?
[02:46] <darky-kjd> yo Cameron... sry bout that .. i needed a restart
[02:46] <Gullstad> plug'n'pay
[02:46] <DemonHeadx> linksys  WPC54GS v1.1
[02:46] <Stork> hi, can someone help me with make? the make file is: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zgyhQE73.html, and i need to make all the thingies (?) compile with /usr/local/ssl/include in the path.. how would i do that?
[02:46] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, have you configured ndiswrapper to work with it?
[02:46] <Gullstad> Stork: apt-get install make
[02:47] <DemonHeadx> well i really don't know how to install ndiswrapper.
[02:47] <Gullstad> :P
[02:47] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, are you using dapper?
[02:47] <Stork> Gullstad, what the fuck?
[02:47] <DemonHeadx> i tired what the guides said, but make install doesn't do anything
[02:47] <DemonHeadx> riddlebox: yes i am
[02:47] <darky-kjd> ok.... anybody around  who could help me with my tray icon problem ????
[02:48] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, it is a pcmcia card right?
[02:48] <DemonHeadx> riddlebox: yes sir.
[02:48] <Gullstad> DemonHeadx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=WPC54GS+v1.1
[02:48] <xBONESstyle> I need a hug.
[02:48] <xBONESstyle>  :D
[02:48] <DemonHeadx> Gullstad: i haven't seen that post yet..
[02:48] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, please eject the card and insert it again, then look at dmesg for me and put it in a pastebin
[02:48] <riddlebox> so I can see it
[02:49] <DemonHeadx> riddlebox: ok sure, whats dmesg and also i am on a seprate computer
[02:49] <matgates> Is there some process in dapper which traps keypresses like XF86AudioNext?
[02:50] <riddlebox> DemonHeadx, Applications--->Accessories--->Terminal, then type dmesg
[02:50] <mejobloggs> hey, I used the package manager to install bzflag, but it doesn't work.  I'm running remote.
[03:00] <cwillu> psycode:  you're trying to script it?
[03:00] <psycode> cwillu, remote
[03:00] <webman> thanks shep most have overlooked it, thanks again
[03:00] <darky-kjd> well yes..
[03:00] <darky-kjd> hmmmm .. now what did i remove ?????
[03:00] <DShepherd> webman: yw
[03:00] <fwtest> there where the date, sound, power button located?
[03:00] <Awesome-o2000> how can I configure my box to use USB for ethernet? modprobe usbnet?
[03:00] <Awesome-o2000> I just want to plug a USB cable into my cable modem with the thing
[03:01] <fwtest> ahh
[03:01] <fwtest> ok
[03:01] <vanden> (bump) Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 (Linux newb) and most recent TB on my laptop. Yesterday,my laptop froze coming out a reboot and I had to power down. Rebooted, and rebooted again with forced fsck. Now when launching TB, my folders never get populated and my cpu usage jumps to 100%.  Any suggestions?
[03:01] <mejobloggs> when trying to run bzflag, I get these errors:
[03:01] <p_masho> HOw do I fire off a screenshot? problem I got is I'm taking screenshots of my application and want to take a snap of screen when a menu is selected. pressing "Print Screen" doth not work
[03:01] <mejobloggs> mellow_man: X error of failed request: BadValue (inteer parameter out of range for operation)
[03:01] <mejobloggs> Major opcode of failed request: 134 (XGree86-VidModeExtension)
[03:02] <mejobloggs> Minor opcode of failed request: 10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)
[03:02] <mejobloggs> can anyone help ?
[03:02] <webman> takes some time
[03:02] <Warbo> p_masho: gnome-screenshot --delay X (X is in seconds). Been using that just :)
[03:03] <Mitario> hi, anyone else having problems with gossip?
[03:04] <konfuzed> hey what can I use to open this .vsd visio file that someone sent me
[03:04] <nathanael> darky-kjd: I have your answer: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q32
[03:04] <Hurga> Where can I adjust system bell pitch in Ubuntu?
[03:04] <sababa> hi, does anyone has managed to get mozilla-mplayer to work with wmv's?
[03:04] <mejobloggs> how can I unmount a hard drive?
[03:04] <webman> what is the best for a newbie , bash, c++ python or where to start??
[03:05] <nathanael> yes
[03:05] <nathanael> in Firefox
[03:05] <sababa> they work for me if I play them directly from mplayer, but they dont work with the plugin
[03:05] <gnomefreak> does Kazehakase use the gecko engine?
[03:05] <Warbo> webman: Bash is easiest (it is just a terminal basically) but then I think Python
[03:05] <nathanael> webman: bash
[03:05] <zenit> webman: python is a great and readable language
[03:05] <liquidten2> webman:  Bash by far.  It's also the most useful for a linux user
[03:05] <nathanael> I was using it today...
[03:05] <ardchoille> mejobloggs: sudo umount /dev/device
[03:05] <nathanael> I am using it right now!!! (IRSSI)
[03:05] <webman> thanks all
[03:05] <nathanael> np
[03:06] <liquidten2> gnomefreak: yes it does.
[03:06] <sagarp> what's the difference between nvidia-glx and the nvidia driver offered by linux-restricted-modules?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> liquidten2: ty i figured it might
[03:06] <ardchoille> how do I list the current running services?
[03:06] <Warbo> OK, I'm gonna restart X and see if I have composite
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: ps aux
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: or top
[03:07] <darky-kjd> nathanael.... : well the problem was .. i think ... that while changing theme in gaim... the icons where removed.... so .. let's se ... i need to restart gaim
[03:07] <Stork> hi. i'm having trouble compiling something.. this paste includes my makefile and the output from make.. please help someone.. http://rafb.net/paste/results/p4OyM645.html
[03:07] <theBishop> what package can play h.264 mpeg-4 video?
[03:07] <DShepherd> is the fglrx driver the same as the raedon driver
[03:07] <DShepherd> ?
[03:08] <nathanael> Has anyone {heard of/gotten to work} the (Windows-based)GoToAssist client in Ubuntu?
[03:08] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: I need to list services, not running apps
[03:08] <nathanael> Using WINE, perhaps?
[03:08] <iiiears> theBishop:  VLC is one
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: oh sorry
[03:08] <mejobloggs> what should I use to format/partition a hdd in ubuntu ?
[03:08] <konfuzed> Anyone work with Charts and Diagrams like visio. I need to open a network diagram that was saved in visio
[03:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> camone know how to make the glxgears show frames/ps?
[03:08] <nathanael> mkfs
[03:08] <theBishop> iiiears, vlc doesn't play anything that totem can't already play, its still dependent on codecs installed
[03:09] <Stork> PLEASE SOMEONE
[03:09] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: that im not sure but i thought there was a menu item for sevices in gnome it might give you running ones
[03:09] <iiiears> mejobloggs: gparted - there is a bootable iso. nice replacement for partition magic.
[03:09] <Hurga> Stork: install libssl-dev and libssl0.9.8
[03:09] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: there is in gnome, but this person isn't running gnome, wants a cl tool
[03:09] <mejobloggs> iiiears: what is gparted like compared to qtparted?
[03:09] <darky-kjd> lol
[03:09] <DShepherd> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: tried running it from the terminal
[03:09] <DShepherd> ?
[03:09] <nathanael> or QTparted :p
[03:09] <iiiears> mejobloggs: It's about the same.
[03:09] <gnomefreak> not sure ardchoille sorry
[03:10] <nathanael> darky: Did that work?
[03:10] <theBishop> iiiears, what codec do i need to play h.264 in VLC?
[03:10] <Hurga> ardchoille: netstat -tanp | grep LISTEN
[03:10] <webman> just wanted to say great ubuntu 6.06 , great program. windows has died and yes i want to help people out of their troubles :)
[03:10] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: That's ok, I think sysv-rc-conf will work fine
[03:10] <Stork> Hurga, ..you are my god.
[03:10] <darky-kjd> nathanael... i restarted ... and still nothing .. but ... i unselected the plugin and put it back in.... so it seems that a tray icon is put in the notification aeria.. but it's 1x1 pixel ... :D
[03:10] <nathanael> haha
[03:11] <nathanael> squint I guess
[03:11] <darky-kjd> so i copied back from the backup config .. still noting... hmmmm
[03:11] <DShepherd> do the the ubuntu cds/iso available for download have the latest updates?
[03:11] <cwillu> DShepherd: I don't think so
[03:11] <v-mack> dshepard: not the offical ones
[03:11] <Talisker> What the pkak is wrong with the apt repositories this time?
[03:11] <iiiears> theBishop http://www.xvid.org/
[03:11] <cwillu> Talisker: what's the problem?
[03:12] <nathanael> dark-kjd: You should always be able to totally reconstruct either of the 2 default gnome panels
[03:12] <DShepherd> cwillu, v-mack will there be cds though?
[03:12] <webman> no you need to update after dl
[03:12] <nathanael> *darkY
[03:12] <theBishop> iiiears, xvid != h.264 ???
[03:12] <Talisker> Well, a few weeks ago some of the servers fell, so you phrased a sed command that updated the sources
[03:12] <Nova> hey guys
[03:12] <Talisker> which worked fine
[03:12] <Talisker> but now apt-get update gives me errors again
[03:12] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: no the latest ones were released on june 1st
[03:12] <darky-kjd> nathanael... take a look at this page... :http://www.duggmirror.com/linux_unix/best_guide_to_make_Ubuntu_look_like_Mac_OS_X/
[03:12] <cwillu> Talisker: can you pastebin the errors?
[03:12] <Talisker> Wait, I'll paste them somewhere
[03:12] <cwillu> heh, read my mind
[03:12] <nathanael> I have
[03:12] <darky-kjd> there is the part about gaim costumization
[03:12] <Nova> I just swiched to kubuntu, using the command promps
[03:13] <nathanael> I used that page on my laptop
[03:13] <nathanael> Looks great eh?
[03:13] <darky-kjd> yeah..... and ?
[03:13] <Nova> probs it, although i have kde programs
[03:13] <nathanael> and?
[03:13] <p_masho> where is "gome-screenshot" ?
[03:13] <darky-kjd> YEAH it dose... i modified some things... wate i'll make a screen shot
[03:13] <Nova> i still have gnome appearence
[03:13] <gnomefreak> p_masho: dapper?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> p_masho: in dapper its in applications>accessories
[03:14] <p_masho> yes
[03:14] <mejobloggs> ok, i installed QTParted, but when I try and run it from the menu it says 'no device found, maybe you are not using root user'
[03:14] <mejobloggs> how do i fix that?
[03:14] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: yeah I know. but dapper is going to be supported for 5 years. Will new cds/iso with the various updates be available for download sometime within this 5 year period?
[03:14] <v-mack> this may be OT, but why make ubuntu "dress up" like OS X?  is there an appeal to that i don't get?
[03:14] <nathanael> All she shows you how to do is change the Gnome theme, icons, and wallpaper..and modify the panels slightly
[03:14] <cwillu> mejobloggs: make sure you're launching it as gksudo <app name>
[03:14] <v-mack> mejobbloggs, run "sudo gparted"
[03:14] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: that just means they will have updates uploaded to servers
[03:14] <nathanael> Anyone here purchased the support? IS it any good?
[03:14] <Nova> K, gonna start again
[03:14] <p_masho> I want to take a "screenshot" when a menu ois selected in my application.. whoe do I fire it ?
[03:14] <mejobloggs> noo. I want it to run from the 'start menu'
[03:14] <mejobloggs> i dont want to use the terminal just to launch QTParted, that is silly
[03:14] <cwillu> mejobloggs: use the menu editor and add skgudo in before the command line on that entry
[03:15] <cwillu> gksudo I mean
[03:15] <gnomefreak> p_masho: click on applications than click on accessories than click on take screenshot
[03:15] <mejobloggs> ah cool
[03:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> DShepherd: i am running it from terminal
[03:15] <nathanael> oh...wait - this *IS* support - lol
[03:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> DShepherd: it doesnt show any fps
[03:15] <Hurga> v-mack: It's like glueing non-functional spoilers to cars. People seem to like it.
[03:15] <KrazyKat> hey, has anyone here had problems installing/runing ubuntu fromt he live cd?
[03:15] <Talisker> This damn pastebin takes forever
[03:15] <mejobloggs> uh... where do i find the menu editor?
[03:15] <mejobloggs> krazykyeah, i did
[03:15] <mejobloggs> uup
[03:15] <gnomefreak> mejobloggs: in dapper applications>accessorires
[03:15] <yggdrasil> can somone help me out my application and locations places have dissapeared from the top left gnome bar....
[03:15] <v-mack> hurga, thanks for reassuring my sanity
[03:15] <Talisker> You guys need to learn how to configure your system without using the graphic interfaces
[03:15] <gnomefreak> mejobloggs: its called alacarte
[03:16] <mejobloggs> KrazyKat: yeah, i had problems with the automatic partitioner
[03:16] <yggdrasil> as well as the system.... but the bar itself is still there
[03:16] <Nova> Heya guys, I just changed from gnome to KDE using the terminal, now, i rebooted, and strup shows the kubuntu logo, and the login screen is kubuntu, but... when i have logged in, the desktop retains the appearence of gnome. Does anyone know whats up?
[03:16] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: so if I download or order a cd 2 years from now... I have to update it after installing it?
[03:16] <nathanael> Did you choose KDE for your default session?
[03:16] <neotard> Nova:  before logging in, choose the KDE session
[03:16] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: or can you get an update cd separate? (download and order that is)
[03:16] <nathanael> You have to click "options" at login
[03:16] <cwillu> DShepherd: hell, if you install today, you have to update, and about the same amount of downloads
[03:17] <Nova> neotard: how do i do that
[03:17] <nathanael> Click options
[03:17] <v-mack> dshepard: are you nervous about being somewhere where you can not d/l the updates?
[03:17] <neotard> Nova:  there's an "options" in the low-left corner
[03:17] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: yes but i have *heard* of another dapper cd will be released that is just heard not fact
[03:17] <Talisker> http://talk.cwillu.com/Talisker#preview
[03:17] <neotard> Nova:  it says "select a session" or something like that
[03:17] <cwillu> DShepherd: there's trickery that can be done to download updates, and I'm sure images will be available, from 3rd parties if not ubuntu.com
[03:18] <KrazyKat> when i click on the start thing after it goes to the load screen it just stops ona black screen does anyone know how to fix that?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: no new packages just updated ones so if xorg gets updated 3 times in 2 years you only have to do it once
[03:18] <cwillu> and here's where my server crashes from the load :p
[03:18] <nathanael> Get the CD - it's faster, and more phun!
[03:18] <Nova> ok
[03:18] <Nova> thanks
[03:18] <Nova> I'll have a look
[03:18] <nathanael> You go NOVA!
[03:18] <KrazyKat> when i click on the start thing after it goes to the load screen it just stops ona black screen
[03:18] <Nova> lol
[03:18] <KrazyKat> does any one know hot to fix that?
[03:18] <Nova> Nova, out!
[03:18] <KrazyKat> how
[03:18] <Talisker> cwillu, http://talk.cwillu.com/Talisker#preview
[03:18] <cwillu> Talisker: I saw
[03:19] <cwillu> Talisker: can you check if you have an apt.conf file?
[03:19] <Talisker> And...?
[03:19] <cwillu> Talisker: and if so, check if there's a line mentioning 'proxy' anywhere
[03:19] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: hmm.. i guess it gives me nightmares..when I had to reinstall and update windows Xp
[03:19] <Talisker> /etc/apt/???
[03:19] <cwillu> Talisker: and if so, delete it (edit via sudo gedit apt.conf), and rerun apt-get update
[03:19] <ardchoille> Ubuntu doesn't use udev?
[03:19] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: dont want to go thru that again..with no OS/distro
[03:20] <Talisker> I don't like gedit
[03:20] <DShepherd> Talisker: i do
[03:20] <cwillu> Talisker: whichever :)
[03:20] <Talisker> I like pico
[03:20] <nathanael> I wonder if paid suppoort is allowed to SSH into your machine? (RHEL isn't)....
[03:20] <gnomefreak> DShepherd: winxp only lets you do certain ones than reboot and do more ubuntu does all  ;)
[03:20] <cwillu> Talisker: you did a text mode or server install, did you?
[03:20] <kevin> Talisker, then use VI or something lol
[03:20] <v-mack> dshepard: there is trickery where you can "slipstream" wx cds with all the updates... im sure the same thing exists with ubuntu somewhere
[03:20] <v-mack> XP cds
[03:20] <Kazukisan> So how do i link a folder to a folder with Symlinks ?
[03:20] <Talisker> cwillu, actually I did a standard install
[03:21] <Talisker> Which was a bad idea
[03:21] <Talisker> Anyway, where should I find apt.conf?
[03:21] <KrazyKat> when i click on the start thing after it goes to the load screen it just stops ona black screen does anyone know how to fix that?
[03:21] <Hurga> Kazukisan: ln -s sourcefolder destfolder
[03:21] <ardchoille> Kazukisan: ln -s /path/source /path/target
[03:21] <Kazukisan> thanks
[03:21] <cwillu> Talisker: okay, anyway, I think it's a line like 'Acquire::::Proxy "false";'  try deleting it, save and rerun apt-get update
[03:21] <Talisker> err...
[03:21] <nathanael> Text-based mail(SMTP) client: Anyone?
[03:21] <Talisker> For the third time.... where is the apt.conf file located?
[03:22] <DShepherd> Talisker: locate apt.conf
[03:22] <cwillu> Talisker: 'locate apt.conf' :p
[03:22] <DShepherd> Talisker: what are you trying to do?
[03:22] <nathanael> /etc/apt/apt.conf
[03:22] <dipnlik_> nathanael: pine? mutt?
[03:22] <nathanael> shanks!
[03:22] <Talisker> /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf
[03:22] <darky-kjd> nathanael: chck it out:http://<IP_ADDRESS>/Screenshot.png
[03:22] <cwillu> DShepherd: I'm just troubleshooting an apt-get problem
[03:22] <Talisker> Doesn't sound very relevant
[03:22] <darky-kjd> stupid me...
[03:23] <darky-kjd> http://kjd.dnttm.ro/Screenshot.png
[03:23] <DShepherd> cwillu: ok
[03:23] <cwillu> Talisker: for somebody who recommended that people learn how to use bashm you're not being very cooperative :p
[03:23] <darky-kjd> need some fule...
[03:23] <nathanael> lol
[03:23] <cwillu> Talisker: /etc/apt/apt.conf I believe
[03:23] <nathanael> We have no VPN darky!
[03:23] <Talisker> cwillu, if there was such a file
[03:24] <DShepherd> Talisker: there is a file..
[03:24] <Talisker> I would'nt point out the one located in /usr/share, now would I
[03:24] <Talisker> ?
[03:24] <cwillu> Talisker: okay, let me mod my sources.list and see if I can dupe it
[03:24] <Talisker> Well, appearntly there isn't, which makes this problem a tad more misterious
[03:24] <mejobloggs> im trying to use QTParted on a spare hdd, but it keeps saying it can't unmound hdb1 and hdb2. How can I unmount them?
[03:24] <lonegeek> Whats the deal with audio not working in flash?
[03:24] <stoned> good evening
[03:24] <v-mack> sudo umount /dev/hdb
[03:25] <DShepherd> ok..I off to get AIGLX to run on my ati card..
[03:25] <DShepherd> lata
[03:25] <kevin> audio works with flash on here (laptop)
[03:25] <lonegeek> mine did...and no longer does...
[03:25] <mrfishhat> i have audio working also
[03:25] <Blissex> lonegeek: Flash uses OSS emulation, that does not support sw sharing
[03:25] <nathanael> darky: That's a lot of panels dude.
[03:25] <varsendaggr> hey how do i add and edit launchers to my "start menu"
[03:25] <mrfishhat> my problem with flash is the sync issue
[03:25] <darky-kjd> i know nathanael... but copy/pasted it from my browser.... and wasn't realizing .. just after i pasted it
[03:25] <darky-kjd> i know...
[03:25] <lonegeek> Blissex, nothing else is open that is using audio though
[03:25] <Blissex> lonegeek: unless you use one of several bad workaround...
[03:25] <kevin> lonegeek, do you have gaim running?
[03:25] <v-mack> !Alacarte
[03:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about Alacarte
[03:26] <darky-kjd> the left one is on auto hide
[03:26] <Blissex> lonegeek: something else will be using audio, like a sound daemon
[03:26] <nathanael> ah
[03:26] <lonegeek> kevin, yes.... but that was never an issue before.....
[03:26] <mejobloggs> v-mack: that says they are already mounted
[03:26] <mada> kevin: what kind of laptop do you have and are you happy with it? i am in the market for a new laptop and it will without doubt run ubuntu ... just wondering what would be a good one
[03:26] <nathanael> hmmm
[03:26] <lonegeek> let me reboot....
[03:26] <gnomefreak> v-mack: alacarte is the menu editor used in dapper
[03:26] <kevin> lonegeek, I have to shut gaim off for it to work sometimes
[03:26] <nathanael> So the top right is where your going for?
[03:26] <darky-kjd> and all this whit fading and everithing
[03:26] <nathanael> Compiz?
[03:27] <v-mack> gnomefreak: apologies
[03:27] <stoned> I installed ubuntu dapper stable on my laptop, it is very slow.  My laptop used to be very responsive on debian, but with ubutnu I have noticed that it takes a very long time, much longer than debian, to start an application, or boot the system, sometimes apps hang for no reason.  This is a brand new install of it too.  I have also noticed a MAJOR slowdown of network activity.  When tranferring files from laptop to desktop, it is very slow.
[03:27] <stoned>   from other machines on the network it is ok.  by slow I mean it goes no more than 300-400kb/s and its a 10mbps network, LAN.  any ideas on what I can do to speed things up a bit
[03:27] <darky-kjd> yeah .. you noticed a edesklets icon in the top
[03:27] <kevin> mada, I am using a compaq presario v2555ca
[03:27] <cwillu> Talisker: does it bomb at the same place when you do a sudo apt-get update?
[03:27] <darky-kjd> before that icon .. is .. it really is .. the gaim icon ...
[03:27] <darky-kjd> but can't be seen
[03:27] <kevin> it is okay with the exception of broadcom wireless
[03:27] <Talisker> cwillu, I only do it as sudo
[03:27] <darky-kjd> now i will atempt to find the file
[03:27] <mada> kevin: ouch, yeah .. i don't do broadcom anything anymore
[03:27] <nathanael> Far out...
[03:27] <nathanael> And you re-installed the plugin?
[03:28] <cwillu> Talisker: no, I mean apt-get update it again, and does it crash at the same point each time you run it
[03:28] <color> can somone help me out my application and locations places have dissapeared from the top left gnome bar.... as well as my system pulldown
[03:28] <kevin> mada, I do have it working at home but not on the road
[03:28] <stoned> if anyone can help me out, trying to figure out why my system is so slow, I am running kubuntu btw
[03:28] <yggdrasil> can somone help me out my application and locations places have dissapeared from the top left gnome bar.... as well as my system pulldown
[03:28] <yggdrasil> jeesus
[03:28] <nathanael> haha!
[03:28] <yggdrasil> stupid irssi
[03:28] <nathanael> stoned: One Word: KDE
[03:28] <nathanael> lol
[03:28] <nathanael> lol
[03:28] <nathanael> lol
[03:28] <stoned> nathanael, umm, at least 6x as fast on debian sid
[03:28] <DBO> !enter
[03:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:28] <Talisker> seems pretty much identical
[03:29] <DBO> yggdrasil, right click on the panel, select add to panel
[03:29] <gnomefreak> stoned: please join #kubuntu if noone in here can help you
[03:29] <DBO> its in there
[03:29] <stoned> gnomefreak, same thing with gnome
[03:29] <darky-kjd> nathanael.. reinstalled .... no... did not...  how.... hmmmm i'll lose my max/os skins.. i gess
[03:29] <mada> stoned: i am a debian to ubtuntu switcher and i haven't noticed any speed change ... have you done the new updates for the newer kernel?
[03:29] <ardchoille> How do you use the enter key as punctuation? I didn't think that was possible
[03:29] <stoned> would you prefer I rephrase myself to gnome than kde
[03:29] <stoned> pretend I have gnome, and not kde, and I  have the same problems
[03:29] <mejobloggs> can someone help me partition my spare hdd please? I am trying to use qtparted, but it says that hdb1 and hdb2 can't be unmounted. When I do sudo umount /dev/hdb, it says they are already unmounted :(
[03:29] <yggdrasil> bah screw it
[03:29] <yggdrasil> thanks
[03:29] <yggdrasil> for n
[03:29] <yggdrasil> nothing
[03:30] <yggdrasil> bbl
[03:30] <gnomefreak> stoned: no but can you give me more info on what is slow what your doing when its slow?
[03:30] <VikJES> Should I use the "fglrx" ati binary driver with a radeon 7500 mobility?
[03:30] <Talisker> Thanks for your help and all, but Ubuntu failed me for the last time, I'm going back to the resources
[03:30] <ChronusDark> Has anyone tested the Dell XPS 1210 with dapper?
[03:30] <Talisker> night
[03:30] <cwillu> Talisker: it looks like there's a proxy causing some difficulty
[03:30] <mada> stoned: also, debian sid runs faster than almost anything you will find ... i don't know why, but it does ... sid runs faster than testing does
[03:30] <stoned> gnomefreak, well pretty much everything.  Apps take very long to start, system/UI is not as responsive
[03:30] <Hurga> dma on ?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> stoned: what version of ubuntu?
[03:31] <stoned> gnome or kde, it doesn't matter which
[03:31] <stoned> dapper latest updated and upgraded
[03:31] <stoned> today
[03:31] <cwillu> stoned: what vid card?
[03:31] <Hurga> stoned: check the dma settings on your HD device.
[03:31] <stoned> and trust me this is not a percieved slowness
[03:31] <gnomefreak> stoned: can you run the command ps aux and paste the output to pastebin
[03:31] <mada> cwillu: vid card shouldn't matter about system performance
[03:31] <darky-kjd> yggdrasil lol
[03:31] <mada> stoned: what architecture?
[03:31] <stoned> gnomefreak, what should I looking for?
[03:31] <TVFAR> Hi all. New Ubuntu user her
[03:32] <ardchoille> TVFAR: hi
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: something using alot of memory
[03:32] <kevin> mada, it did on mine if I was using wine or trying to run a 3D prog
[03:32] <stoned> mada, dell inspiron 512ram 1.8ghz 32mb onboard inetel
[03:32] <darky-kjd> yggdrasil... are you admin from the lineage server ???
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: also a good thing to know how much of a swap do you have?
[03:32] <stoned> gnomefreak, I can check top or htop
[03:32] <stoned> ok one sec
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: yes if you wish
[03:32] <yggdrasil> darky no ... ?
[03:32] <mada> kevin: yes, but his desktop functions slowly
[03:32] <kevin> ohhhhhhhhh sorry mada
[03:32] <gnomefreak> stoned: none of what you put there is arch
[03:32] <yggdrasil> i just moved my home directory and remade one empy
[03:33] <cwillu> stoned: check hdparm /dev/hda , making sure dma is on;  grep /var/log/xorg.log mem and make sure it's assigning video memory (onboard vid card you said?)
[03:33] <mada> stoned: ok .. so its an intel box .... what processor? 1.8GHz could be a few things
[03:33] <darky-kjd> used to waste time ... with that game.. on the yggdrasil server
[03:33] <yggdrasil> where does thunderbird store mail and settingg in /usr/home/.thunderbird ?
[03:33] <nathanael> stoned: Kernel matches your proc?
[03:33] <stoned> 1gb swap
[03:33] <stoned> nathanael, yes
[03:33] <ardchoille> yggdrasil: yes
[03:33] <stoned> I've done all I can, running the2.6.16-1-686
[03:33] <mada> yggdrasil: it should
[03:34] <gnomefreak> stoned: thats not dappers kernel
[03:34] <yggdrasil> gnome has been making me mad lately
[03:34] <tripppy> how do i autoset files received from bluetooth as readable by "others" ?
[03:34] <nathanael> This is a desktop?
[03:34] <mada> nathanael: if the kernel didn't match the proc arch, it wouldn't boot
[03:34] <gnomefreak> yggdrasil: look in ~/.thunderbird  or ~/.mozilla/thunderbird
[03:34] <stoned> gnomefreak, I have 99% swap space free
[03:34] <stoned> from 1gb that is
[03:35] <nathansnook> have a question about shell scripts
[03:35] <nathanael> mada - Ubuntu ships with a default kernel, which is not always specific to the proc
[03:35] <Hurga> gnome is better than I remembered, but I keep having some funny font problems in Firefox...
[03:35] <ardchoille> yggdrasil: look in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[03:35] <gnomefreak> stoned: than im not sure
[03:35] <stoned> gnomefreak, I don't see anything outrageous on the process list
[03:35] <mada> nathanael: yes, but it is specific to the processor architecture
[03:35] <nathanael> *sigh*
[03:35] <stoned> only thing huge is 22mb ram by limewire
[03:35] <cwillu> nathanael: yes, but there's not going to be a huge difference between i386 and i686 performance
[03:35] <kevin> stoned, do you have firestarter installed?
[03:35] <nathanael> Well, just adding my bit
[03:35] <mada> stoned: what processor do you have?
[03:36] <yggdrasil> thanks guys
[03:36] <stoned> model name      : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 - M CPU 1.70GHz
[03:36] <mada> stoned: rgr ... there went that theory
[03:36] <mejobloggs> Can someone help me with this error please? http://pastebin.com/728282
[03:36] <mada> mejobloggs: i'll take a look at it
[03:36] <stoned> Its not a bad machine by any standards
[03:36] <stoned> I just don't get it man
[03:36] <stoned> Its mind boggling and its frankly ticking me off
[03:37] <nathanael> And top shows nothing unusual?
[03:37] <stoned> wish I knew where to look to find it out
[03:37] <kevin> stoned, do you have firestarter installed?
[03:37] <stoned> if you prefer I can post it onpastebin
[03:37] <stoned> hold on
[03:37] <stoned> kevin, no I do not
[03:37] <siriusnova> AIGLX + Compiz = Sexy Ubuntu Desktop :D
[03:37] <kevin> k, there went that idea
[03:38] <iiiears> !compiz
[03:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:38] <nathanael> stoned: Here are some more ideas: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8308
[03:39] <iiiears> siriusnova: dl.tv former the screensavers host has a nice video of !compiz on open suse today.
[03:39] <cwillu> stoned, what does "grep AGP /var/log/Xorg.0.log" say?
[03:39] <siriusnova> iiiears - cool
[03:39] <stoned> guys
[03:39] <stoned> http://pastebin.ca/70317
[03:39] <stoned> ps auxf output
[03:39] <Usunny> hello fellow strangers, you guys think this thing'ie would make a good "ubuntu-pc" http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1087&l1=1&l2=3&l3=0
[03:40] <stoned> cwillu, I don't use the gfx on this laptop
[03:40] <nathanael> stoned: according to google, you are not alone
[03:40] <stoned> cwillu, the kde session is exported to desktop Xserver
[03:40] <Warbo> Well composite works in radeon driver, but I had to get a newer version of E16 than Ubuntu has
[03:40] <stoned> cwillu, my laptop's screen is shattered and the keys are broken
[03:40] <stoned> mostly
[03:40] <stoned> :)
[03:40] <nathanael> haha
[03:40] <nathanael> hmm
[03:40] <tripppy> is there a mini ubuntu? IE: smaller customized install disc?
[03:41] <nathanael> the plot thickens
[03:41] <ScreaminIke> i made a bunch of files... with non fat32 compatible names....
[03:41] <cwillu> stoned: so it's a terminal server basically?
[03:41] <Warbo> ScreaminIke: Let me guess, colons?
[03:41] <nathanael> Not network-related, stoned?
[03:41] <stoned> cwillu, no, the laptop has full kubutnu/ubuntu/kde/gnome installed on it.  I just run gdm/kdm as i need to and then I run X -query laptop on my desktop
[03:41] <DonL> Hi
[03:42] <iiiears> trippy - the server install and for a time there was a second group developing ubuntulite for breezybadger
[03:42] <stoned> dm's are configured to export the session over X
[03:42] <Usunny> i guess not ;<
[03:42] <siriusnova> gstreamer is the biggest pile of goo
[03:42] <cwillu> stoned: have you used a similar config (i.e., full remote gnome) before?
[03:42] <stoned> eveyrthing was fine on breezy too
[03:42] <cwillu> ah, okay
[03:42] <stoned> just dapper is slow for me
[03:42] <stoned> breezy was REALLY breezy
[03:42] <iiiears> trippy - xbuntu is very light on resources.
[03:42] <siriusnova> stoned - prelink
[03:42] <Warbo> siriusnova: Yes, but it's not as bad as Xine