[01:06] <resolve> hi folks. after discovering https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+faq/374 and a few failed attempts, the import queue in translations has about 135 files. i marked all but the latest bunch 'deleted', is that enough? when do they actually disappear?
[01:42] <Viper550> okay, how do I put stuff up on bzr?
[01:45] <wgrant> Viper550: https://help.launchpad.net/Code is probably useful.
[01:52] <Viper550_> freaking brownout
[01:52] <wgrant> Viper550: Did you get my suggestion?
[01:53] <Viper550> no
[01:53] <Viper550> because we had a power outage
[01:56] <wgrant> 10:45:43 < wgrant> Viper550: https://help.launchpad.net/Code is probably useful.
[02:20] <popey> (Error ID: OOPS-1274EA12)  when trying to edit the description of ~locoteams and set it to be a restricted team :(
[02:21] <popey> guessing its because locoteams group has by proxy got a boatload of members
[02:39] <poolie> wow, launchpad is pleasantly fast this morning
[02:57] <Snova> The OpenSourcing page in the topic says that Code Hosting will be kept internal. What does this include? Am I going to miss the entire Code tab, or something smaller?
[03:02] <Viper550> okay I'm following http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
[03:04] <Viper550> I typoed on the touch command
[03:12] <Viper550> The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (<IP_ADDRESS>)' can't be established.
[03:12] <Viper550>  is that supposed to happen
[03:20] <thewrath> i see when you host code on launchpad it shows only the added and removed
[03:20] <thewrath> lines
[03:20] <thewrath> is there a way to show the modified lines?
[03:21] <thewrath> bc right now it looks like a modification is a removal in the old file and an an added in the old
[03:21] <thewrath> which is incorrect
[03:32] <nhandler> thewrath: That is how diff shows a modified line. It shows it as a removal in the old and addition in the new. Most diff software acts this way. It really has no way of knowing if you only modified one word in the line or changed the entire line (which would be a removal and addition)
[03:32] <thewrath> but if you use diffstat -m it does tell u
[03:32] <thewrath> i just tried it
[03:34] <nhandler> thewrath: -m "merge insert/delete counts from each "chunk" of the patch file to approximate a count of the modified lines.
[03:34] <nhandler> It is an approximation to display a count. It would not work to display the actual changes. It definitely would not work in a patch that people could apply
[03:40] <thewrath> k
[03:40] <thewrath> so there is no best way to find out the number of lines that were added, removed and modified?
[03:41] <nhandler> thewrath: Are you only after a number?
[03:41] <thewrath> wat else could i go after for the actual changes? yes i am after a number right now
[03:41] <nhandler> thewrath: If you only care about a number, then you could use diffstat
[03:41] <thewrath> ok
[03:42] <thewrath> yea i need to do svn diff | diffstat -m
[03:42] <thewrath> to get added, removed and modified
[06:49] <lajjr> anyone know of a quick way to remove a ppa??
[06:58] <wgrant> Impressive waiting time.
[06:58] <wgrant> That must almost be a record.
[07:01] <RAOF> Surely not.  My timestamps put that at ~1min.
[07:01] <RAOF> I'm sure the record is in the seconds. :)
[22:56] <thewrath> could someone help me set up a bzr server
[22:56] <thewrath> i have it mostly set up but its not liking me


[12:54] <LQ> Some of the widgets are sometimes missing from the GNOME panel on login - is this GNOME or Ubuntu? Will Unity have the same problem?
[12:59] <LQ> The widget problem seems to be most prevalent on Live USBs but it can happen on the installed desktop also, being completely random.
[13:00] <LQ> disconnect
[14:19] <robert_ancell> desrt, I'm pimping dconf in #ubuntu-uds-bonaire4
[14:21] <desrt> nice :)
[14:21] <desrt> vuntz and i are dealing with some gnome stuff
[14:21] <desrt> we're still in our room
[14:32] <seb128> desrt, did you sleep this night? ;-)
[14:32] <seb128> or did you spend the night on yesterday's discussion
[14:33] <desrt> robert_ancell: hey
[14:33] <desrt> seb128: we went upstairs and vuntz told me i was right :)
[14:33] <desrt> robert_ancell: i'm in the room now
[14:34] <seb128> desrt, he probably just wanted to go to bed ;-)
[14:35] <desrt> seb128: :)
[14:35] <desrt> robert_ancell: where's all of the talk about dconf?!
[14:36] <seb128> desrt, not a lot of talk, just suggesting compiz upstream to use it
[14:36] <desrt> i agree!
[14:39] <robert_ancell> desrt, yes, smspillaz said he would look at making a compiz settings backend
[14:40] <desrt> !!!JKWDGJSDJG
[14:40] <ubot2> Factoid 'JKWDGJSDJG' not found
[14:40] <desrt> *ahem*
[14:40] <desrt> they should just use GSettings :)
[14:43] <desrt> glib!
[14:43] <RAOF_> They're just talking about using glib in compiz core, so…
[16:30] <Goog_Josh> hello, does somebody knows how to change size of window's border in 10.10
[16:32] <jpds>
[16:33] <jpds> .23
[16:35] <mterry> Goog_Josh, you can do it, just a very small grab area (1-pixel wide)
[16:35] <and471> Goog_Josh, you would have to change your metacity theme
[16:35] <mterry> Goog_Josh, oh, that's what you were asking (how to make it more than 1 pixel)?
[16:37] <Goog_Josh> yes to the latter message
[16:37] <mterry> yeah, just change metacity theme (Appearances)
[16:38] <jcastro> Goog_Josh: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4109/increase-resize-margin-on-windows
[16:38] <Goog_Josh> thanks for you
[16:42] <ronoc> Bertrand, ping
[16:47] <Goog_Josh> one more question: how to set inclusion numeric keys(numlock) by boot?
[16:51] <Goog_Josh> Does anyone know the answer?
[16:57] <Goog_Josh>  does anyone know how to fix the bug with sleep mode in 10.10
[17:16] <ronoc> Bertrand, ping again
[17:22] <Bertrand> ronoc: pong
[17:22] <ronoc> Bertrand, hey did you catch my question earlier ?
[17:23] <Bertrand> ronoc: I don't see it in my backlog. What was it ?
[17:23] <ronoc> Would banshee have any interest in supporting the playlist extension to mpris ?
[17:23] <ronoc> Bertrand, ^
[17:24] <ronoc> http://www.randomguy3.me.uk/mpris/Playlists.html
[17:24] <Bertrand> Looking...
[17:30] <Bertrand> ronoc: Seems quite easy, so I don't see any problems to implement it. I guess the idea is to show those playlists in the sound menu ?
[17:30] <ronoc> Bertrand, indeed
[17:31] <ronoc> Bertrand, I was hoping to get this in for Natty
[17:31] <Bertrand> ronoc: I should be able to find some time in the coming months, or someone else can beat me to it ;)
[17:32] <Bertrand> ronoc: Would you mind filing a bug on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=banshee so that I don't forget about it ?
[17:32] <ronoc> Bertrand, I will propose the changes to the mpris list, can you show some interest with a response, Alex is not too keen but with some client interest it should be accepted
[17:33] <ronoc> Bertrand, will do
[17:34] <ronoc> Bertrand, the functionality is described in the spec on the wiki
[17:39] <Bertrand> ronoc: I'm now subscribed to the mpris list, probably should have done that earlier ;)
[17:40] <ronoc> Bertrand, good stuff
[17:40] <Bertrand> ronoc: Have fun at UDS !
[17:41] <ronoc> Bertrand, its going well, been here for over 10 days now.
[17:41] <ronoc> Bertrand, get back to London Monday
[20:05] <jcastro> RAOF__: I need upvotes please!
[20:05] <RAOF__> jcastro: For which questions?  I've done an upvote sweep already.
[20:05] <jcastro> RAOF__: oh ok, thanks.
[20:06] <jcastro> I am just wondering why people are voting for ones that are obviously rumors with no citation
[20:06] <RAOF__> Because they're jucy rumours!
[20:06] <jcastro> heh
[21:10] <jcastro> if someone sees didrocks can you tell him that this page ius blank
[21:10] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/PackageSelectionAndSystemDefaults#Bringing the Ubuntu Desktop and Netbook favors closer
[21:10] <jcastro> and it's not supposed to be
[21:11] <bilalakhtar> I think didrocks is at UDS, right? Then it should be easy for jcastro to find him
[21:12] <jcastro> I am trying to
[21:12] <jcastro> so I am leaving him a message
[21:12] <jcastro> and yes, I know he's here /somewhere/, heh
[22:29] <nisshh> didrocks, you around?
[22:29] <didrocks> nisshh: sure
[22:29] <nisshh> didrocks, jcastro was in her earlier looking for you
[22:29] <nisshh> didrocks, he said to tell you thisL
[22:29] <nisshh> :
[22:30] <didrocks> nisshh: we are in the same room
[22:30] <didrocks> jcastro: that's the question you asked me previously?
[22:30] <nisshh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/PackageSelectionAndSystemDefaults#Bringing the Ubuntu Desktop and Netbook favors closer
[22:30] <didrocks> james_w: stop slackering and scratching your head :-)
[22:30] <nisshh> he said that page is blank and it isnt supposed to be
[22:30] <didrocks> nisshh: I pasted on the linked blueprint
[22:31] <nisshh> didrocks, dont talk to me about it, i dont even know what your talking about :)
[22:31] <didrocks> ahah :)
[22:31] <didrocks> nisshh: thanks for the info, all is correct! :-)
[22:31] <nisshh> cool
[22:31] <nisshh> didrocks, thats my public service done for the day :)
[22:31] <didrocks> nisshh: :-)
[22:46] <jcastro> nisshh: thanks!
[22:50] <nisshh> jcastro, yw :)


[00:01]  * karni cleaned up nicely SyncDaemon source. 1AM, time to do some reading and get some sleep.
[00:01] <karni> Good night everyone, happy Xmas!
[00:01] <karni> Argentina: I wish you come cool breeze
[00:01] <karni> *some
[00:02] <facundobatista> karni, thanks! :)
[12:17] <coz_> hey guys... my login account is asking for verification code,,, apparenlty sent to my email but nothing is coming into email... what is the current response time for this?
[12:17] <rye> coz_, hm, let me test that too
[12:20] <rye> coz_, it took nearly 10 seconds for the message to be delivered
[12:20] <rye> coz_, i.e. under 10 seconds
[12:20] <coz_> rye,  near 5 minutes here and still no response
[12:21] <rye> coz_, verification code? wait, is that ubuntu sso gui that is asking for verification code?
[12:21] <coz_> yes
[12:21] <rye> coz_, ok, that's maverick, right?
[12:21] <coz_> natty
[12:22] <rye> coz_, erm, do you have keyring working by the way?
[12:22] <coz_> 11.04
[12:22] <coz_> ah yes  unless its broken in natty :)
[12:22] <rye> coz_, i.e. is seahorse working?
[12:22] <coz_> let me check
[12:23] <coz_> mmm
[12:23] <coz_> I dont think so
[12:26] <rye> coz_, unfortunately i don't know what to say now since the client is somehow able to communicate with the keyring, but the evolution and seahorse can't...
[12:27] <coz_> rye,  yeah no big deal actually...  I will figure it out  ... checking to see what is and is not broken in natty at this point... alpha afterall :)
[12:27] <rye> coz_, could you please re-run ubuntuone-preferences and see whether it pops-up SSO verification again?
[12:28] <coz_> sure hold on
[12:28] <rye> coz_, we have a bug report about that but i could not find out how to reproduce that
[12:28] <rye> it's almost like the account ....
[12:29] <coz_> rye,  ok ran it again  but still no email notification
[12:29] <rye> coz_, hm, could you please see whether ~/.cache/sso/sso-client.log has anything interesting there?
[12:29] <coz_> sure hold on
[12:30] <rye> coz_, you may pastebin it in case there are no "secret" keyword anywhere (e.g. token_secret, consumer_secret)
[12:31]  * rye has broken natty now, context menus do not work, evolution can't access keyring... sweet
[12:31] <coz_> there are apparenlty secret keywords :)
[12:32] <rye> ** Message: couldn't allocate secure memory to keep passwords and or keys from being written to the disk
[12:32] <rye> hmm
[12:32] <coz_> no "messages"
[12:32] <coz_> it does say  {u'email_token': u'Bad email token!'}
[12:33] <rye> coz_, hmmm
[12:33] <coz_> hold on let me pastebin the last part
[12:34] <rye> coz_, ok, searching for the bug report...
[12:34] <coz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/547204/
[12:34] <coz_> oo ubuntupatsebin needs to fix that wrapping problem
[12:35] <rye> coz_, sweet
[12:37] <ralsina> good morning everyone
[12:38] <rye> ralsina, morning!
[12:40] <rye> wow, context menus _are_ opening but not rendering
[12:55] <ralsina> whoa, I am officially developer-less today, finally everyone is on vacation :-)
[12:56] <rye> ok, bug #688713 and an idea to make our irc logs shine
[12:56] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 688713 in ubuntu-sso-client "I do not receive the verfication code per email (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688713
[12:57] <rye> coz_, are you registered on launchpad?
[12:57] <coz_> rye,  yes
[12:58] <coz_> rye,  and of course I can get onto ubuntuone via firefox
[12:58] <rye> coz_, ok, https://login.launchpad.net/+id/3DbBDnB - is your identity
[12:59] <coz_> ok
[12:59] <rye> coz_, as well as https://login.ubuntu.com/+id/3DbBDnB, so how that can be an invalid token?
[12:59] <coz_> rye,  are you referring to that number in the url?
[12:59] <rye> coz_, yup
[13:00] <coz_> rye,  you are saying if I use that as the code it asks for it will work?
[13:00] <Chipaca> ralsina: you are?
[13:00] <coz_> rye,  that number was listed in that pastebin also
[13:00] <ralsina> chipaca: according to the calendar yes
[13:00] <ralsina> chipaca: nessita is taking the day, and dobey has national holiday
[13:01] <rye> coz_, no, it won't, the client says "here is the email the user gave me, and here's the user identity i checked..." however it is already verified and this is what puzzles me
[13:01] <coz_> isnt everyone at canonical still on vacation?
[13:01]  * ralsina sees the opportunity to downgrade himself to coding all day long ;-)
[13:01] <coz_> rye,  ah I see
[13:01] <ralsina> coz_: not everyone. Just almost everyone
[13:01] <Chipaca> ralsina: what'll you code on all day long?
[13:02] <rye> coz_, let me dig the code, something is wrong there
[13:02] <ralsina> chipaca: finish sso->pyqt stuff, then start the preferences panel
[13:02] <coz_> rye,  apparenlty natty :)
[13:02] <duanedesign> hello everyone
[13:02] <ralsina> Chipaca: I'm advancing stuff for January when Mandel has the windows backend ready for it
[13:03] <rye> duanedesign, are you on natty?
[13:03] <duanedesign> yes
[13:03] <rye> duanedesign, is evolution or seahorse working for you?
[13:05] <ralsina> chipaca: oh, andI have to review the monster branch from nessita!
[13:06] <karni> hi guys :)
[13:06] <karni> ralsina: how cool is that. I can't code whole day, Xmas dinners and such :F
[13:06] <duanedesign> seahorse is acting ok
[13:06] <Chipaca> karni: I assumed ralsina meant his *working* day
[13:06] <ralsina> karni: well, I have not coded a whole day in a month, so I am not sure I can do it either. Maybe I'm just a suit now! ;-)
[13:06] <duanedesign> rye: ^^
[13:07] <rye> duanedesign, o_O.. ok, then i need to do something ... and no idea what..
[13:07] <ralsina> Chipaca: indeed. Family first!
[13:07] <karni> Chipaca: aha ;D! anyway, I'll do some android manuals reading now ^ ^
[13:08] <karni> ok then, see you later everyone. and happy holidays :)
[13:12] <coz_> going to try a few things    be back in a bit
[13:21] <duanedesign> rye: hmm, contacts dont want to cooperate
[13:32] <rye> duanedesign, contacts not cooperating is known, rodrigo_ said he's looking into that
[13:33] <duanedesign> ok :)
[13:34] <rye> duanedesign, i think the link to the bug is on /Status page
[14:16] <ralsina> nessita: on the freshly installed natty I can't get u1trial, what am I missing?
[14:16] <ralsina> I mean "u1trial is not there"
[14:24] <ralsina> nessita: testing IRL -- glib.GError: Failed to open file '/home/ralsina/canonical/ubuntuone/woo/data/install.ui': No such file or directory
[14:45] <nessita> ralsina: fixing!
[14:51] <ralsina> I've gotta go eat. I'll be back!
[14:53] <nessita> ralsina-lunch: I forgot (dumb!) to bzr add a file, added now
[14:53] <nessita> and pushed
[15:44] <nessita> ralsina-lunch: regarding your first question (u1trial), you need the ubuntuone-dev-tools package installed
[16:45] <ralsina> nessita: installation works, running tests works, still need to read the code
[16:45] <nessita> ralsina: did the panel worked for you? since Chipaca is having issues with couch in natty
[16:46] <nessita> ralsina: and by panel I mean the Services tab
[16:46] <Chipaca> nessita: the last tab in particular
[16:46] <Chipaca> ralsina: ^
[16:46] <Chipaca> ralsina: I have no pairing record
[16:46] <ralsina> it paired perfectly
[16:46] <ralsina> I got the last tab to ask me to install desktopcouch
[16:47] <ralsina> It doesn't offer me bindwood, though (should it?)
[16:47] <nessita> ralsina: after desktopcoiuh is installed, it will
[16:47] <nessita> ralsina: can you please install DC using the control panel UI?
[16:47] <nessita> then let's see of it works for you
[16:47] <ralsina> DC got installed!
[16:48] <ralsina> but then it shows me a checkbox for files and nothing else in the last tab
[16:48] <nessita> ralsina: crap
[16:48] <nessita> ralsina: anything in the DEBUG output?
[16:48] <ralsina> nessita: checking...
[16:48] <nessita> such as no pairing record
[16:50] <ralsina> no, I think the problem is that I locked apt-get because I was installing ubuntuone-dev-tools in another terminal
[16:50] <ralsina> let's try again
[16:52] <nessita> ralsina, Chipaca: does this work for you on a python console? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/547289/
[16:52] <Chipaca> I suspect nessita gets a gold star for effort, but no approval
[16:52] <nessita> Chipaca: eh!
[16:53] <nessita> Chipaca: is working on maverick with nightlies
[16:53] <nessita> I can film it (though I know it count almost nothing)
[16:53] <Chipaca> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/547291/
[16:53] <ralsina> no, no offer to install bindwood
[16:53] <nessita> ralsina: does the paste work for you?
[16:54] <nessita> Chipaca: you DC+U1 is busted
[16:54] <Chipaca> nessita: no, not busted. I simply don't have a pairing record.
[16:54] <nessita> Chipaca: I will add some try except to handle that
[16:54] <Chipaca> nessita: instead you should add a pairing record :)
[16:54] <nessita> Chipaca: well, the pairing record should be in place in any install. I will handle nevertheless
[16:55] <nessita> Chipaca: no, that is not control panel work
[16:55] <Chipaca> nessita: who puts the pairing record in there?
[16:55] <nessita> Chipaca: a plugin that mandel was adding a few days ago
[16:55] <ralsina> Got the no pairing record, pastebin  coming...
[16:55] <Chipaca> nessita: plugin to what?
[16:55] <nessita> Chipaca: to add U1 pairing records
[16:55] <Chipaca> nessita: plugin to what, not for what :)
[16:55] <nessita> Chipaca: bug #689772
[16:55] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 689772 in desktopcouch "Desktopcouch and Ubuntu One pairing is missing (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689772
[16:56] <ralsina> https://pastebin.canonical.com/41367
[16:57] <ralsina> I'll try nessita's pastebin now
[17:00] <ralsina> doesn't work gives no pairing record error
[17:00] <nessita> Chipaca: I'll add code to handle the ValueError, letting the adding of the pairing record be handled in DC directly, like it was handled so far. If you want the u1cp to add the pairing record, I can do it (can import directly the piece of code pointed in the bug report), but I think we should do it in another branch and in another moment of the cycle
[17:01] <nessita> ralsina: right,  same as Chipaca. This is the code that mandel was working last, remember? the thing that you pingued CardinalFang about, and dobey also added an entry point in DC
[17:01] <ralsina> yes, I remember
[17:01] <ralsina> It was supposed to be in the nightlies days ago?
[17:02] <nessita> ralsina: not sure if for natty is, since CardinalFang told me that DC is not released in natty yet, not sure how that affects natty nightlies
[17:02] <ralsina> I'll upgrade to the latest nightlies and try again
[17:03] <ralsina> oh, right, that's what CP installed anyway
[17:04] <nessita> ralsina, Chipaca: I guess we need to define who is responsible to add the pairing record
[17:04] <dobey> desktopcouch should be doing it
[17:04] <dobey> that's what my branch did
[17:04] <nessita> no doubt we should hanlde the ValueError on u1cp, I'll do that next week
[17:05] <nessita> dobey: should be that working on natty already?
[17:05] <dobey> it's in trunk so it should be working if desktopcouch-service from nightlies is running
[17:05] <nessita> dobey: what happens in this scenario:
[17:06] <nessita> * dc-service was never started by anyone
[17:06] <nessita> * u1cp starts it by importing from desktopcouch.application.replication_services import ubuntuone
[17:06] <nessita> will the pairing record be added in that moment?
[17:07] <dobey> if u1cp is doing that specifically, i see it causing other issues due to the "ubuntuone" name
[17:07] <dobey> the pairing record gets added when the NewCredentials signal is sent on dbus
[17:08] <nessita> dobey: u1cp is doing from desktopcouch.application.replication_services import ubuntuone as u1rep
[17:08] <dobey> ok
[17:09] <nessita> dobey: and this is a problem, since at the point that u1cp do that, the credentials has been gathered already, and they won't be asked any time soon
[17:09] <nessita> so I guess that u1cp should do the pairing on ValueError :-/ which is a huge hack from my POV
[17:10] <nessita> unless... does the pairing code asks explicitly for credentials?
[17:10] <dobey> no
[17:11] <pedronis> seems we are starting to get a funny state machine distributed across packages/projects, fun, fun, fun
[17:11] <nessita> we can also do that: make that code to find_credentials (no UI will be raised)
[17:11] <nessita> pedronis: let's cry together :-)
[17:12] <nessita> so, pairing record code should: ask ussoc for credentials, if present, pair, if not, keep connected to CredentialsFound
[17:12] <nessita> dobey: ^ opinions?
[17:12] <nessita> ralsina: ^?
[17:12] <ralsina> hmmmm
[17:13] <nessita> dobey: still thinking this should no be added to the u1 auth specific service?
[17:13] <dobey> to what?
[17:13] <ralsina> nessita: I don't have an intelligent opinion in this one :-(
[17:13] <nessita> ok, I'm having lunch in 5', my partner will kill me otherwise :-D (I promised this review thing will take 5 minutes an hour ago :-P)
[17:14] <nessita> dobey: to what what? :-)
[17:14] <dobey> what is "u1 auth specific service" ?
[17:14] <nessita> dobey: this service that will handle u1 credentials, accessing ussoc but abstracting the caller of all the params madness
[17:15] <nessita> dobey: so, the first soul that ask for U1 credentials to this soon-to-come service, will make the pairing happen
[17:16] <nessita> that soul can be syncdaemon, u1cp, oneconf, etc
[17:16] <dobey> i think desktopcouch should make desktocouch pairing happen
[17:16] <nessita> dobey: but how can we handle that the CredentialsFound signal can happen "too late"?
[17:17] <nessita> dobey: the quickest and 80% dirt solution is to have the pairing code to call find_credentials
[17:17] <nessita> ralsina, Chipaca: set my branch as WIP to handle the ValueError exception
[17:17] <dobey> i don't know the perfect answer right now
[17:18] <ralsina> nessita: ok
[17:18] <dobey> i know i need lunch and i am on holiday, though :)
[17:19] <nessita> I'm holiday as well
[17:19] <nessita> and I'm having lunch now as well, brb
[17:19] <dobey> if it's not working as-is in trunk, file a bug, and we'll discuss/fix it there. :
[17:19] <dobey> err :)
[17:19] <dobey> and now, back to that holiday thing for me
[17:20] <nessita> dobey: ack
[17:47]  * nessita is back
[18:02] <ralsina> welcome back nessita!
[18:34] <nessita> ok, gotta go
[18:34] <nessita> bye ralsina, Chipaca!
[18:34] <ralsina> Felices fiestas!
[18:34] <ralsina> Oops, late
[19:23] <ralsina> happy holidays every1


[00:06] <jeremydei> latenitess, ah, well that's interesting then, i had the same issue and assumed that it just didn't support that
[00:35] <TERORR> anyone has an idea why my fresh installed ubuntu server ignores rc.local ?
[00:35] <pmatulis> TERORR: can you pastebin it?
[00:36] <TERORR> well i can..
[00:36] <TERORR> but why?
[00:36] <TERORR> even if i deleted everything
[00:36] <TERORR> and just echo bla bla bla
[00:36] <TERORR> doesn't work
[00:36] <pmatulis> TERORR: well, i'm trying to help
[00:37] <TERORR> yes i know sorry i didn't want to be like that
[00:37] <TERORR> it is just frustrating :)
[00:50] <adac> how to check automatically for updates? apt-cron?
[00:56] <xMopx> hi guys, is is possible to run the ubuntu enterprise cloud inside of OpenVZ?
[01:18] <pmatulis> adac: 'sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade'
[01:18] <pmatulis> adac: actually, you want something else
[01:19] <adac> pmatulis, yeah, i guess apt-cron is the thing i want
[01:21] <RoAkSoAx> sommer: ping
[01:30] <qman__> TERORR, my lucid servers don't ignore rc.local, but it requires tweaking upstart and plymouth to get the output to show on tty1
[01:30] <Pilif12p> I get " fork failed: Cannot allocate memory E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)" when trying to run  sudo apt-get -f install
[01:30] <qman__> I don't remember exactly what I did, probably things you're not supposed to
[01:33] <flyback> did the latest 10.04 lts kernel update seriously *canuck* something up with networking?
[01:34]  * Patrickdk wonders why he still has 8bit isa cards and 10mbit hubs
[01:36]  * flyback has those also
[01:36] <flyback> Patrickdk, whoa hang on
[01:36] <Patrickdk> who needs a 3c502 Etherlink II card?
[01:36] <flyback> what chipset are those
[01:36] <flyback> oh 501/502 is seriously *CANUCKED*
[01:36] <flyback> it can't handle multiple packets such as streaming
[01:36] <Patrickdk> unkno0wn
[01:36] <flyback> do you have any realtek ones?
[01:36] <Patrickdk> I have a 501, freaking thing can't do back to back
[01:36] <Patrickdk> ya, I have realtek
[01:36] <flyback> yep
[01:37] <flyback> 8019as?
[01:37] <flyback> the isa realtek not pci ones
[01:37] <flyback> pci ones are crap
[01:37] <Patrickdk> the 3c509 here too, many of them
[01:37] <flyback> the isa realtek 8019as is good because
[01:37] <flyback> a) it has a 8 bit mode
[01:37] <Patrickdk> only pci realtek
[01:37] <flyback> b) it only requires +5
[01:37] <Patrickdk> and 3com/smc isa
[01:37] <flyback> you can use them with microcontrollers
[01:37] <flyback> such as pic and avr
[01:37] <flyback> ne2000 compatible work also
[01:38] <flyback> but otherwise unless you have isa only boxes, i wouldn't bother
[01:38] <Patrickdk> hmm, unknown 16bit isa card
[01:38] <Patrickdk> cn9003f
[01:38] <flyback> I think I know what that is, hang on
[01:38] <Patrickdk> I think it's ne2000 compat
[01:38] <flyback> ne2000 is the worst btw
[01:38] <flyback> perfprmance and cpu usage wise
[01:39] <flyback> but ok for dos and some embedded projects
[01:39] <flyback> I think you are right
[01:39] <Patrickdk> oh wow, didn't know I had this one, ne2000plus3 Novel
[01:40] <Patrickdk> 3c515? :)
[01:40] <flyback> Patrickdk,
[01:40] <flyback> http://th99.too.it/
[01:40] <flyback> ooooo
[01:40] <flyback> 515 is a isa 100mbit
[01:40] <flyback> KEEPER
[01:40] <flyback> KEEPER
[01:41] <flyback> ISA is only 42mbit it it's still good cause it keeps your switches from running at 10mbit
[01:41] <flyback> keep the 515's
[01:41] <Patrickdk> I haven't owned a isa computer for >10 years
[01:42] <Patrickdk> hmm, around '96 was my last isa slot
[01:42] <Patrickdk> I almost have no pci slot computers left
[01:42] <flyback> heh
[01:42] <Patrickdk> dumping my last one next month
[01:42] <flyback> well like I said keep the 515's and ebay them
[01:42] <flyback> and keep any rtl8019/29as you find
[01:43] <Patrickdk> don't have any
[01:43] <Patrickdk> back then I went after 3com nics
[01:50] <flyback> better choice by far
[01:50] <flyback> :)
[01:53] <aegis> Hi all...  Is LDAP completely screwed up on Lucid?  Mine has fallen apart in the past few weeks and there is no hope of fixing it.  Is there any chance this will be repaired?
[01:58] <aegis> It seems like 10.04 server is a failure with regards to LDAP...  Do you guys know of any distros that actually has LDAP working?
[02:09]  * flyback http://th99.too.it/
[02:13]  * Datz_ notes that is quite the site
[02:13] <flyback> yeah jumpers for almost everything up to pci
[02:44] <Vibedigital> on zabbix get this error: got empty string from [<IP_ADDRESS>] Assuming that agent dropped connection because of access permissions. Someone can help?
[02:45] <Vibedigital> trying acess the zabbix server itself
[03:58]  * flyback bbl
[04:23] <Datz> I'm wondering why all the sudden the number of packages that are in need up being updated stopped showing when loggin in.
[04:35] <istevenmon> hi guys where do i make permanent the echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:37] <icek> hi i set up a ubuntu-server router, dhcp/nat my internet has been running kinda slow and i dont know which computers are doing what, one could just be going crazy, are there any good tools out there to do network analysis?
[04:37] <icek> the would break it down by ip
[04:37] <icek> or something
[04:43] <Datz> icek: have you looked into wireshark?
[04:44] <icek> ya
[04:44] <icek> i was hopin something a little more
[04:44] <icek> higher-level
[04:44] <icek> analysis
[04:45] <Datz> ah
[04:45] <netritious> icek: you could try physically disconnecting each computer from the network one-by-one to see if it has any affect...just a suggestion
[04:46] <icek> well i have already done wireshark analysis
[04:46] <icek> nothing stands out
[04:46] <icek> i'd just like long term
[04:46] <netritious> might be a faulty cable
[04:46] <icek> analysis
[04:46] <icek> graphing
[04:46] <twb> istevenmon: /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:46] <icek> ?
[04:47] <twb> icek: start by checking the ethernet layer
[04:47] <icek> there is nothing wrong
[04:47] <icek> its just i have too many computers on this network
[04:47] <twb> icek: use mii-tool or ethertool to check that it negotiated 100baseT-FD or so
[04:47] <icek> i just want to do some long term analysis
[04:47] <twb> icek: if you want performance monitoring, try munin or cacti
[04:48] <icek> i am doing cacti
[04:48] <icek> but the graphs seem kinda limited
[04:48] <Datz> icek: if you want long ter...yea.. munin
[04:48] <icek> not too indepth
[04:50] <netritious> icek: you might also want to look into OSSIM, but it's a complete distribution not a package or set of packages
[04:52] <icek> cacti doesnt seem to do much, i cant even figure out how to display like trafic per conection or somethin
[05:17] <aaa000> can you easily run php as a separate fastcgi process w/ apache? or would you have to compile it yourself?
[05:39] <twb> Dunno about *fast*cgi, but there's a php5-cgi package
[05:39] <twb> The normal ways is with mod_php or whatever it's called
[05:45] <jamil_> II have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> II have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:45] <jamil_> I have a modem us robotics. how to install in ubuntu??? please...
[05:49] <twb> Such a modem will not have sufficient resources to run Ubuntu.
[05:50] <lifeless> jamil_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:57] <styngve> What to do with to much bandwidth, any suggestions?
[05:58] <twb> styngve: bittorrent?
[05:59] <styngve> What do you mean?
[06:02] <Error404NotFound> how i can force tar to change permission/owner/group to the user who is extracting it?
[06:06]  * flyback night
[06:34] <thedittmer> I have a rackspace cloud server with ubuntu. what is the best way to get FTP going?
[06:41] <styngve> Does anybody have suggestions what to do with to much bandwidth ?
[06:43] <styngve> Like put up some type of server or host something
[06:53] <ryan_> Hello
[06:53] <styngve> Hallu
[08:39] <atroxes> Admin Problem. The first time I try to 'cp' a file (8GB) to my LVM+LUKS device after a reboot (both LAN or locally), the 'cp' process stalls and iotop reports 99-100% iowait. This can be reproduced by rebooting and doing 'cp' again. Dmesg reports this about the 'cp' process: rwsem_down_failed_common+0xba/0x130
[08:52] <lau> according to #423252 it is not possible to use ldap+ssl on lucid right ?
[09:02] <remix_tj> bug 423252
[09:02] <remix_tj> ?
[09:02] <remix_tj> i do not know :-)
[09:08] <saravanan> Hi could anyone guide me
[09:08] <saravanan> to install OpenNebula on Ububtu 10.04?
[09:08] <saravanan> any good link do you suggest?
[09:09] <saravanan_> Hi could anyone guide me
[09:10] <saravanan_> to install OpenNebula on Ububtu 10.04?
[09:10] <saravanan_> any good link do you suggest?
[09:10] <saravanan_> or documentation?
[09:10] <saravanan_> i ahad been searching for the same..
[09:10] <saravanan_> please help out
[09:14] <twister004> >	hi guys... i've setup a bridged- openvpn server on my ubuntu box(tap0 and br0)....My client connects to the server, gets an IP on the same subnet as the server, but is unsb\\able to ping/access any of the machines(including the server)... please advise what could be the cause... thanks in advance!!
[09:14] <twister004> **but is unable**
[09:36] <burntoutlamp> hi peeps. I am new to installing lamop servers and I was following this guide right here: http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid/ I did all the steps and pointed my url to the ip address and I et 404 not found but I do see apache server so the url goes to my apache server... but it does not see the index.html file. help!! and thank you! :)
[09:39] <burntoutlamp> I guess maybe I should ask, do I save it to the public_html directory or elsewhere? do I have to have some sort of ftp client or is it ok to upload to the directory on the server itself?
[09:39] <burntoutlamp> I don't know. :( *cries*
[09:39] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, dont cry
[09:40] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, files for your root webhost are stored in /var/www/
[09:40] <burntoutlamp> ohhh so if I move my index.html file there it should work?
[09:40] <_Techie_> yes
[09:41] <burntoutlamp> yaaaay!!! :D :D I'm almost there and it's my very first time XD *explodes*
[09:41] <_Techie_> well, congratulations
[09:41] <_Techie_> i hope you enjoy your time working with linux servers
[09:43] <burntoutlamp> hmmm I stored the file in /var/www but it didn't work :(
[09:43] <_Techie_> whats the error?
[09:43] <burntoutlamp> 404 not found
[09:45] <burntoutlamp> I set document root as /srv/www/myurl.com/public_html/ so I put the index.html page there and it didn't work either :(
[09:46] <_Techie_> does the folder /srv/ exist?
[09:46] <burntoutlamp> yuppers
[09:47] <_Techie_> hrmm'
[09:47] <burntoutlamp> I know right? :(
[09:47] <_Techie_> one sec
[09:47] <burntoutlamp> thanks _Techie_ yr awesome
[09:48] <_Techie_> sudo chmod 774 /srv/www/myurl.com/public_html -R
[09:48] <_Techie_> also make sure that you have restarted apache after modifying the sites-available files
[09:48] <burntoutlamp> ooohhhhh!!! the unix permissions !_!
[09:49] <_Techie_> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:50] <burntoutlamp> owner and group can rwx and guests can read yeah?
[09:50] <_Techie_> yep
[09:50] <burntoutlamp> blerg
[09:50] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: shouldnt the owner and group be the apache server
[09:50] <eagles0513875|2> the www-data group and owner
[09:50] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, why do you think i set other to read access
[09:51] <eagles0513875|2> not following :(
[09:51] <eagles0513875|2> the caht thats why i said
[09:51] <eagles0513875|2> ill just shut up
[09:51] <_Techie_> hehe
[09:51] <burntoutlamp> I understood XD
[09:51] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, btw, this is eagles0513875|2, i work on some servers with him
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> hi guys!
[09:52] <_Techie_> wave eagles0513875|2
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> o/ hai burntoutlamp
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> XD
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> lol _Techie_ stop reading my mind
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> I am new
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> working on setting dovecot and post fix again on my server _Techie_
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> burntoutlamp: welcome welcome
[09:52] <_Techie_> ... again
[09:52] <eagles0513875|2> ya
[09:52] <burntoutlamp> today I am going for a job at work to do this stuff. I just got my brain around samba shares and set one up for my company
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> had some authentication issues which i couldnt fix
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> im goign to set it up to use imaps
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> that way i can use plain text authenticatin
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> authentication
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> burntoutlamp: kool :)
[09:53] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, you do know once a grave is 6 ft you can stop digging
[09:53] <burntoutlamp> ya so I'm a n00bs but getting into it fast. you guys are awesome btw
[09:53] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: ya but what ya getting at
[09:54] <eagles0513875|2> :) thanks burntoutlamp granted i havent helped at all
[09:54] <burntoutlamp> ok well mostly _Techie_ but I want to be nice and you seem nice too :) you guys are funny :)
[09:54] <eagles0513875|2> lol
[09:54] <_Techie_> hehe
[09:54] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: question can i configure dovecot to just use imaps or do i need to have it use both?
[09:55] <_Techie_> you can configure just imaps
[09:55] <eagles0513875|2> ok kool
[09:55] <_Techie_> if you want to cheat rather than configure, sudo apt-get purge dovecot-imap
[09:55] <_Techie_> wait now
[09:55] <_Techie_> no*
[09:55] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_:
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> you cant do taht
[09:56] <_Techie_> dovecot-pop3*
[09:56] <burntoutlamp> blerg! still didn't work :(
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> ubuntu has them split _Techie_
[09:56] <_Techie_> or pop, i forget
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> you have dovecot-pop3 package and dovecot -imapd package you dont have to install both
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> hey kim0
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> you can but they arent depended on each other
[09:56] <_Techie_> this i already know
[09:56] <eagles0513875|2> i just have the imap package installed
[09:57] <_Techie_> i was going on a judgement call that you had installed both
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> ahh
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> lol u assumed and made an ass out of u and me :p _Techie_
[09:57] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, did you restart apache after modifying the config files?
[09:57] <burntoutlamp> yup definately
[09:57] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, didnt have to try to make you an ass
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> haha
[09:57] <eagles0513875|2> touche
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> oh hang on
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> it says that piblic_html doesn't exist.... but it does exst! :(
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> I set the permissions recusively on it no probs
[09:58] <_Techie_> uh oh
[09:58] <burntoutlamp> and I see it!!!
[09:58] <_Techie_> *phew*
[09:58]  * burntoutlamp pokes folder
[09:59] <burntoutlamp> it's right there why don't you see it...
[09:59]  * burntoutlamp cries
[09:59] <_Techie_> i always get scared when i see someone get +o when im talking offtopic
[09:59] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, check your config files and make sure you set the documentroot perfectly
[10:01] <eagles0513875|2> same here
[10:01] <eagles0513875|2> oh wait i didnt realize we were in ubuntu server channel lol thought we were in our channel _Techie_
[10:01] <_Techie_> bwah ha ha ha ha
[10:02] <_Techie_> you didnt even notice that it was pretty crowded
[10:02] <burntoutlamp> I opps do I have to set all that stuff in the default-ssl file too?
[10:02] <eagles0513875|2> _Techie_: nub question do i need to have ssl to use imaps ?
[10:02] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, only if using SSL
[10:02] <burntoutlamp> ya I'm not :(
[10:02] <_Techie_> eagles0513875|2, hell no
[10:02] <eagles0513875|2> ok
[10:03] <_Techie_> i use non SSL imap on Orannis
[10:03] <_Techie_> not even TLS
[10:03] <eagles0513875|2> ok yet your still using imaps no
[10:03] <_Techie_> ya
[10:04] <eagles0513875|2> kool
[10:04] <_Techie_> omg wtf, just put my elbow up against my pocket zip and i swear it vibrated
[10:04] <eagles0513875|2> lol
[10:05] <burntoutlamp> doh!!! sorry _Techie_  I see the error of my ways @_@ typo...
[10:05] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, thats alright, no need to apologise
[10:06] <_Techie_> on the other hand, if it was eagles0513875|2 here, id be expecting a 2 page essay, double sided
[10:06] <eagles0513875|2> lol
[10:06] <eagles0513875|2> offtopic much
[10:06] <_Techie_> !ot | _Techie_
[10:08] <saravanan> Hi could anyone point me a good documentation to install OpenNebula on Ububtu 10.04?
[10:08] <twister004> hi guys... i've setup a bridged- openvpn server on my ubuntu box(tap0 and br0)....My client connects to the server, gets an IP on the same subnet as the server, but is unable to ping/access any of the machines(including the server)... please advise what could be the cause... thanks in advance!!
[10:08] <twister004> i need some help here please.. not sure what's going on...
[10:09] <_Techie_> saravanan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenNebula
[10:09] <burntoutlamp> BLERG now I get 403 but set thepermissions and and and restarted ARGH! *rips a few hairs out*
[10:12] <burntoutlamp> im going to try 777 if 777 doesn't work houston has a problem lol XD
[10:13] <_Techie_> yeah
[10:14] <_Techie_> burntoutlamp, if that doesnt work, then we can start pastebinning files
[10:14] <burntoutlamp> yay works not
[10:14] <burntoutlamp> now
[10:14] <_Techie_> congrats
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> thanks!
[10:15] <_Techie_> i have an idea
[10:15] <_Techie_> sudo chown www-data:www-data /srv/www -R
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> tho I don't think I can leave it 777 lol but it'll work for right now
[10:15] <_Techie_> then you should be able to set it back to 774
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> ahh I see set the owner and group
[10:15] <burntoutlamp> as www-data
[10:16] <_Techie_> =)
[10:16] <_Techie_> you catch on really fast
[10:16] <burntoutlamp> hmmm kay I see what you are doing
[10:16] <eagles0513875|2> yes and you wouldnt have to touch the permissions at all  :)
[10:16] <burntoutlamp> sure do _Techie_ :)
[10:19] <kim0> eagles0513875|2: howdy
[10:19] <burntoutlamp> BLAM! (chooses to only use exclaim words from Dog the Bounty Hunter) It worked! :) you're my favorite!
[10:19] <eagles0513875|2> hi kim0
[10:19] <kim0> hey there
[10:19] <eagles0513875|2> whats up
[10:19] <kim0> All going good
[10:19] <kim0> eagles0513875|2: you pinged me :)
[10:20] <eagles0513875|2> i did
[10:20] <eagles0513875|2> O_o
[10:20] <eagles0513875|2> possibly tab fail :( on my part apologies
[10:20] <kim0> eagles0513875|2: no problemo "10:56 #ubuntu-server: < eagles0513875|2> hey kim0"
[10:21] <eagles0513875|2> oh
[10:21] <eagles0513875|2> i forgot what i wanted lol
[10:21] <kim0> hehehe
[10:21] <_Techie_> you were saying hi, i think
[10:21] <eagles0513875|2> actually yes thats what it was hehe
[10:21]  * eagles0513875|2 waves to kim
[10:21]  * kim0 waves back :)
[10:22] <_Techie_> awww puppy love
[10:22] <_Techie_> so cute
[10:25] <droogie> One of my virtual machines won't start anymore, libvirt / apparmor is complaining about monitor socket not showing up. The error message from the logs are "libvir: Security Labeling error : error calling aa_change_profile()
[10:25] <droogie> "; anyone got any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:08] <saravanan> hi alll
[11:09] <_Techie_> hello saravanan
[11:31] <klaas> I got a question that may be a little offtopic -- :) I got a project from my university where I have to calculate prime numbers and I'm looking to use the unused resources at my univerity - whats a good framework for cloud/distributed services that I could use?
[11:33] <burntoutlamp> blerg!!! can anyone help? working on a LAMP stack and I keep getting a timeout error
[11:33] <burntoutlamp> i set the ip address and everything
[11:33] <burntoutlamp> I can get to OTHER sites on the net
[12:50] <david506> I ran apt-get purge openvpn and rm -fr /usr/share/doc    Now that I reinstalled openvpn, the easy-rsa folder isn't reinstalled. What do I do to get that back ?
[12:51] <pmatulis> david506: why did you remove /usr/share/doc ?
[12:51] <david506> wait
[12:51] <david506> never mind, it's there. I was looking in the wrong folder :P
[12:51] <david506> it's in /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/ and I was looking at /usr/share/doc/openvpn
[12:51] <david506> sorry to have wasted your time
[13:14] <BK_man> hi all. Just installed 10.10 Server and can't login using ssh - after providing a valid password I only see "Last login: ..." as a last string. No shell prompt at all. Please help!
[13:15] <pmatulis> BK_man: can you log in at the console?
[13:15] <BK_man> pmatulis: yep. As non-root user
[13:16] <pmatulis> BK_man: check the logs (auth.log)
[13:16] <BK_man> pmatulis: after that I can do "sudo su -"
[13:16] <BK_man> ok
[13:18] <BK_man> Khm... "Address <IP_ADDRESS> maps to localhost...". It's an IP address from which I tried to log in. What does this mean?
[13:19] <pmatulis> BK_man: probably your /etc/hosts file is misconfigured
[13:21] <BK_man> pmatulis: No, it's ok. <IP_ADDRESS> as localhost, My host's IP address (<IP_ADDRESS>) and IPv6 stuff
[13:21] <jpds> BK_man: Do you have an egress firewall?
[13:23] <thedittmer> I think I have FTP running on my server. How do I make sure? Also, how do I connect to it. Do I have to give a user privileges or something.
[13:23] <BK_man> jpds: system was just installed
[13:23] <BK_man> jpds: no changes were made
[13:23] <pmatulis> BK_man: on the server do 'host <IP_ADDRESS>'
[13:25] <BK_man> pmatulis: connection timed out to DNS..
[13:25] <thedittmer> can someone help me get FTP working. I'm on a rackspace cloud server.
[13:25] <BK_man> pmatulis: turned iptables completely off (iptables -F)
[13:26] <BK_man> pmatulis: still can't login - no shell prompt
[13:27] <thedittmer> when I type "start vsftpd" it says"start: Job is already running: vsftpd"
[13:27] <thedittmer> so I think I have it installed. Now how do I connect to it with my FTP application.
[13:27] <tapoxi> Is there anything preventing me from using a static IP? After configuring /etc/network/interfaces, it works okay *for a while* then starts dropping my ssh connections, eventually not responding to ping. Is there something making it get an address from DHCP?
[13:28] <tapoxi> I'm on 10.10
[13:28] <pmatulis> tapoxi: do you have a graphical environment?
[13:30] <tapoxi> pmatulis: No. X isn't installed.
[13:31] <pmatulis> BK_man: can you ping the server from your client machine?
[13:31] <BK_man> pmatulis: yep
[13:33] <pmatulis> BK_man: maybe kill the ssh service and run it debug mode
[13:33] <pmatulis> BK_man: try 'sudo sshd -Ddd'
[13:33] <BK_man> pmatulis: It's very strange. I can log on if I press Ctrl+C several times
[13:34] <pmatulis> BK_man: you can log in via ssh now?
[13:34] <BK_man> pmatulis: I'm rebooting my blade server at the moment
[13:39] <BK_man> Damn! Guys, are there any problems with bnx2 driver?
[13:39] <jpds> BK_man: What kind of problems?
[13:39] <BK_man> I was able to log in, but now my session freezes afrer some time
[13:42] <thedittmer> so now I know I have FTP running. So how do I connect to it? Do I create a new user and give the user privliges
[13:42] <pmatulis> thedittmer: depends how you configured the server.  try just connecting using existing system user credentials
[13:42] <thedittmer> I only have root
[13:43] <pmatulis> thedittmer: that's not possible
[13:43] <pmatulis> thedittmer: you need to create a user during the install
[13:44] <thedittmer> I'm using a rackspace cloud server. After the setup I got an email with a password. I was told to use root as the user
[13:45] <pmatulis> BK_man: is there anything strange in dmesg output referring to 'bnx2'?
[13:45] <thedittmer> pmatulis: im logged in through ssh as root right now. Can't I just create a user?
[13:45] <pmatulis> thedittmer: yes
[13:45] <thedittmer> pmatulis: how?
[13:46] <pmatulis> thedittmer: 'adduser pmatulis'
[13:46] <pmatulis> :)
[13:48] <thedittmer> pmatulis: YES!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!
[13:48] <pmatulis> thedittmer: keep on truckin'
[13:50] <thedittmer> pmatulis: at some point last night I created a mysql database. How do I find out what I called it? LOL
[13:51] <pmatulis> thedittmer: can you connect to the server with the mysql command?
[13:51] <thedittmer> pmatulis: I don't know the command
[13:52] <thedittmer> I'm just trying to get wordpress running
[13:52] <pmatulis> thedittmer: you really need to do some reading
[13:53] <pmatulis> thedittmer: 'mysql' is the command, did you set up authentication for the root user?
[13:54] <thedittmer> pmatulis: no. I just typed "mysql" and it came back Assess denied for user 'root@localhost' (user password: NO)
[13:55] <pmatulis> thedittmer: you never set up a p/w when you installed mysql-server?
[13:58] <thedittmer> pmatulis: I don't think so. I really don't know that was six hours ago.
[13:59] <BK_man> Khm. Another installation problem - what means "can't allocate protected mode pages"? Immediately after pressing Enter on "Install Ubuntu server" option
[14:01] <lau> which tool do you use in order to set samba{LM,NT}Password entries on your LDAP and avoid smbpasswd on the samba machine ?
[14:01] <lau> mkntpwd is no more present in samba package
[14:02] <lau> and I am getting a session setup failed: NT_STATUS_PASSWORD_MUST_CHANGE when trying to smbclient -U ldap_user
[14:02] <pmatulis> BK_man: you're installing another machine?
[14:07] <BK_man> pmatulis: correct. Old one was IBM HS21, a new one is HS22 - UEFI-based
[14:16] <BK_man> pmatulis: RHEL5.5 installation started ok on that blade
[14:17] <pmatulis> BK_man: so maybe controller is not supported?  what does it have?
[14:18] <BK_man> pmatulis: what controller? it can't load installer kernel
[14:19] <atroxes> HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY!
[14:20] <pmatulis> no no
[14:26] <twb> atroxes: plonk.
[14:29] <aegis> HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY!
[14:29] <ksx4system> YA RLY!!! HAPPY CAPSLOCK DAY!!!111ONEONEELEVEN :D
[14:32] <zul> Daviey: can i take tgt off your hands?
[14:35] <aegis> NEW BUGS???  OHHHH NOOOO!
[14:42] <tapoxi> can a server be haunted
[14:42] <david506> tapoxi. I've had spiders living in servers, does that count?
[14:43] <patdk-wk> can a house be haunted?
[14:44] <patdk-wk> and I guess before we go there, do ghosts exist?
[14:44] <david506> What is the meaning of life ?
[14:44] <patdk-wk> 42 :)
[14:44] <jpds> tapoxi: Rootkit?
[14:45] <david506> We had a gentoo box that was compromised, and it was never the same afterwards. I reinstalled it and put ubuntu. That resolved my 'haunting' issues.
[14:46] <david506> Sometimes you might have some old settings you forgot about that can cause 'haunting' like problems, especially in places like iptables and apparmorr
[14:46] <david506> So I am trying to setup IP masquerading
[14:46] <david506> Trouble is the public interface is an alias "venet0:0"
[14:47] <david506> So iptables says "Warning: weird character in interface `venet0:0' (No aliases, :, ! or *)."
[14:48] <patdk-wk> :0 isn't an interface :)
[14:48]  * patdk-wk spanks david, aliases don't really exist, and having for awhile
[14:49] <david506> right, but the public IP is on that interface
[14:49] <BK_man> Damn! Grub is broken for UEFI-based servers in 10.10.   Citizens of Canada are called "Canadians"
[15:05] <david506> or "Canadiens" in french
[15:05] <flyback> you will pay for "earth final conflict" and other canadian acts of terrorism!
[15:05] <david506> At least Canada isn't a police state like the states
[15:06] <flyback> alannis moresette naked in her "thank you" video, KILLED MORE AMERICAN MEN THAN 911
[15:06] <flyback> damn eh-holes
[15:06] <flyback> j/k :P
[15:06] <flyback> I think I know aegis from a few yrs ago, why I brought this up
[15:06] <flyback> my old nicks were fishhead/i8086/leechie/darkbread
[15:08] <david506> isn't amazing how you can judge an entire country by a single music video by a single singer whom most people don't even like ?
[15:09] <flyback> dude
[15:09] <flyback> EARTH TO DENSE OE
[15:09] <flyback> ONE
[15:09] <flyback> IT'S A JOKE
[15:09] <flyback> canada and us have a friendly rivalry :)
[15:09] <aegis> HAHAHAHA
[15:09] <aegis> HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY!
[15:10] <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCK".................CANUCK!
[15:10]  * flyback headbutts aegis
[15:10] <hggdh> flyback: please stop
[15:10] <flyback> ok :P
[15:10] <hggdh> aegis: please stop
[15:10] <flyback> but seriously
[15:10]  * RoyK blames canada
[15:11] <flyback> did 10.04lts foul up the latest kernel update
[15:11] <flyback> at least with all realtek nics
[15:11] <aegis> YOU LOOK ALL C00L WITH A CANUCK IN YOUR MOUTH.
[15:11] <flyback> aegis stop
[15:11] <hggdh> !ops > aegis
[15:11] <flyback> I don't wanbt to see you get banned :/
[15:11] <rYOk> hAPPY cAPS lOCK DAY
[15:11] <flyback> they asked nicely after all
[15:12] <aegis> i didn't know there was a problem
[15:13] <aegis> someone tried to give me ops though
[15:13] <hggdh> well, now you know. I did not try, I asked ops to deal with you.
[15:13] <rYOk> caps lock day is always a problem (for some people)
[15:14] <hggdh> no, it was notthe caps lock day, it was aegis behaviour
[15:14] <david506> In Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for desktops, you can disable caps lock entirely. One of the best features available!
[15:14] <gentooxer> :)
[15:14] <aegis> ohhh, i'd rather just have ops honestly.
[15:15] <david506> Is there any good use of the caps lock key ?
[15:15] <rYOk> david506: throwing it at people
[15:15] <aegis> today you could use it
[15:15] <rYOk> it's a bit light, though
[15:15] <flyback> HAHAHAHAHAA
[15:15]  * flyback tosses david506 a cold redbull
[15:15] <flyback> good one
[15:15] <aegis> you could send them all to canada?
[15:16] <david506> I drank redbull once, I fell asleep.
[15:17] <aegis> imagine getting thousands of those keys sent to you...
[15:19] <aegis> Ubuntu Prego Panda
[15:22] <aegis>  <hggdh> wants you to know: Help! Channel emergency! soren, lamont, mathiaz or tom
[15:22] <flyback> whoa
[15:22] <flyback> holy shit
[15:22] <flyback> soren is here
[15:22] <flyback> wonder if it's the same one I used to know
[15:23] <aegis> thats sauron
[15:26] <flyback> ugh
[15:26] <flyback> that's what else I forgot to order
[15:26] <flyback> "finger condoms"
[15:26] <flyback> for precision/optics/electronics/data recovery/ work
[15:27] <david506> I use every key on my keyboard each day, except caps lock
[15:28] <IdleOne> !guidlelines | flyback aegis david506
[15:28] <IdleOne> !guidelines | flyback aegis david506
[15:28] <flyback> IdleOne, dude wtf I stopped about the canadian bashing after they asked already
[15:29] <david506> ok, if I use tun, it requires at least a /29. But using tap, I can use a /30. So that means that I waste less IPs.
[15:29] <IdleOne> flyback: didn't see that sorry but still worth a reminder :)
[15:30] <david506> Stupid virtual server doesn't let my play with iptables, devices, loop device etc... Arg :(
[15:30] <rYOk> david506: vserver?
[15:30] <rYOk> a 'true' virtual server will let you do anything
[15:31] <david506> Yes, they are using something called vizuello
[15:31] <david506> Virtuozzo*
[15:31] <david506> But it's right for my budget :)
[15:31] <rYOk> that's like vserver - not really true virtualization
[15:32] <flyback> rYOk, is correct
[15:33] <david506> I have some real servers in my main installation, and have about 20 virtual servers using true virtualization. Should I be using vservers instead? I like dividing the servers because it makes it easier to isolate untrusted software.
[15:33] <flyback> yep it does
[15:33]  * flyback bought a used 1u opteron dual for $100 on ebay for home
[15:33] <flyback> going to use vm's for compiling embedded sw etc
[15:33] <flyback> rather than trying to get cross compilers, the right libs, etc all in one os
[15:34] <flyback> it's like canuck-it and just use vm's disk space is not that expensive ;)
[15:34] <flyback> I don't care if it's a bit slower, it's stable and will eventually finish in the background
[15:34] <flyback> won't be interrupted etc
[15:35]  * patdk-wk wonders why anyone would buy a 1u computer for home
[15:35] <flyback> I will defintely use ubuntu-server in some of my vm's
[15:35] <patdk-wk> they just make way too much noise
[15:35] <flyback> i'm an aspie
[15:35] <flyback> I love the noise
[15:35] <flyback> it drowns out house creeks, grandma, etc
[15:36] <flyback> besides, she has a huge basement, like 50-100 foot long I can put it at the other end if the noise gets to me
[15:36] <flyback> i'm going to replace the cpu's soon
[15:36] <flyback> either just 2 single cores again or two dual cores but - revision-E silicon
[15:37] <flyback> which allows you to do 64 bit vm's without vt/amd-v
[15:37] <flyback> least in vsphere
[15:38] <david506> I ordered a /30, which gives me two public IPs, can I route across a private network ?
[15:41] <twb> david506: I don't understand the question.
[15:41] <patdk-wk> heh? a /30 normally only gives you 1 ip
[15:42] <david506> hang on
[15:42] <jpds> I think it's actually 4.
[15:42] <david506> it's 4, but the first and last are netid/broadcaast
[15:42] <patdk-wk> yes 4, 1 network, 1 broadcast, 1 gateway, 1 usable :)
[15:42] <twb> A /30 is 4 address, of which one is the network and one is the broadcast and one is the gateway.
[15:43] <jpds> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/CIDR#Prefix_aggregation
[15:43] <david506> I am going to use some IPs for argument sake, these are not the real IPs.
[15:43] <lau> how do you sync your posix and samba passwd with passwd cmd ?
[15:43] <lau> users being managed in an ldap server
[15:44] <david506> So I have a machine with eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> and eth 1 <IP_ADDRESS>, a second machine with eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>, eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>, and a a third with eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>.  where <IP_ADDRESS> is the /30
[15:44] <david506> will this routing scheme work? I think so, but just to be sure
[15:44] <rYOk> david506: I'd stick to rfc1918 addresses if I were you
[15:44] <david506> the <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> represent the IPs that they are going to be assigning me, so as not to confuse it with private IPs
[15:45] <rYOk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network
[15:45] <rYOk> ah
[15:45] <rYOk> ok
[15:45] <patdk-wk> I would just use real ip's
[15:45] <patdk-wk> I don't see why people think it's important to hide it
[15:45] <patdk-wk> ip's are public info anyways
[15:45] <twb> lau: that only works if unix root has the ldap root binddn and bindpw
[15:45] <flyback> not so much hide patdk-lap
[15:45] <david506> so, would this work? This would let me have a public IP on the third machine, without wasting IPs on the middle man
[15:46] <flyback> but put them behind a firewall or scanning proxy etc
[15:46] <flyback> also we are close to running out of ip's
[15:46] <david506> No, but they cost money :P
[15:46] <david506> I have a very tight budget ok ?
[15:46] <flyback> unless more founding companies release some blocks
[15:46] <flyback> i'm on your side david506
[15:46] <david506> they say we will run out of IPs next fall ( november 2011 )
[15:46] <twb> david506: they've said that for ten years
[15:46] <rYOk> IPv6 FTW
[15:47] <rYOk> twb: not as specific as they were in the last report
[15:47] <flyback> I don't see how ipv6 is really going to take off
[15:47] <flyback> since it's going to break a lot of existing stuff
[15:47] <flyback> although backend stuff that isn't on the web doesn't matter
[15:47] <rYOk> it'll coexist with ipv4 for years
[15:48] <twb> flyback: it "breaks stuff" about as much as gopher vs. http
[15:48] <flyback> twb that's not the same
[15:48] <jpds> flyback: Well, fix it.
[15:48] <twb> flyback: all it means is that border hosts need to know how to deal with both, and eventually one of the two will win
[15:48] <twb> It's not a lot more painful than the existing NAT bullshit
[15:49]  * rYOk goes back to IPX
[15:49] <patdk-wk> you don't think ipv8 will replace it all?
[15:49] <patdk-wk> :)
[15:49] <twb> patdk-wk: RFC?
[15:49] <david506> ok. I think it'll work, I just think that I am not clearly explaining what I want to try
[15:49] <patdk-wk> ipx had lots of growing space :)
[15:49] <david506> What about AppletTalk ?
[15:49] <lau> twd: my /etc/ldap.conf includes rootbinddn user with correct privilege
[15:49] <rYOk> patdk-wk: yeah, and SAP/RIP broadcasts :)
[15:50] <twb> david506: you want an SNAT rule in your *nat :POSTROUTING chain.
[15:50] <rYOk> david506: not routable IIRC
[15:50] <lau> but how tell ldap to sync sambaLM / NT password when POSIX one change ?
[15:50] <twb> lau: and /etc/ldap.secret contains the rootbinpw/
[15:50] <lau> bug 82853
[15:50] <twb> lau: oh, that.  I don't know.
[15:50] <lau> how do you sync your password in ldap ?
[15:51] <twb> lau: I just use the ppolicy overlay (instead of nis.schema), and I don't have samba in my prison
[15:51] <lau> ok
[15:51] <twb> I think other people I know who do, use smbldaptools (instead of passwd)
[15:52] <patdk-wk> rfc 246810
[15:52] <patdk-wk> hmm, ipv8 and ipv16
[15:52] <patdk-wk> have to look into those sometime
[15:52] <patdk-wk> I just said it as a joke :)
[15:53] <twb> It's not a joke unless it offends someone
[15:53] <patdk-wk> doesn't all of these new ip's offent ipv4 address sellers? :)
[15:54] <patdk-wk> I love that ipv8 rfc :)
[15:55] <RoyK> ipv8 is a bit like http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2550
[15:56] <JamesPage> smoser: have you got 10 to discuss EC2 AMI testing? (and sessions for UDS)
[15:58] <smoser> I do !
[15:58] <smoser> JamesPage,
[15:58] <smoser> :)
[15:58]  * smoser starts his clock
[15:58] <smoser> whats up ?
[15:58] <JamesPage> just doing a quick review of my blueprints for next week.
[15:58] <JamesPage> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-automated-testing
[15:59] <JamesPage> I pulled in a discussion topic from the ideas pool for automating EC2 testing.
[15:59] <JamesPage> However I'm not familiar with what we currently do.....
[16:00] <JamesPage> My thoughts where whether we could do anything similar to what mathiaz and I did for Maverick and ISO testing.....
[16:00] <JamesPage> Using Hudson to control and report of testing...
[16:00] <JamesPage> understand that you are the man in this area so would value your opinion.
[16:01] <JamesPage> any thoughts?
[16:05] <JamesPage> smoser?
[16:05] <smoser> sorry
[16:05] <smoser> i had gone a way. i credit you 4 minutes :)
[16:05] <smoser> reading
[16:07] <smoser> JamesPage, what we currently do is run the automated tests from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/ec2-test/
[16:07] <smoser> i am *very* interested in getting some better tests
[16:07] <smoser> so whatever i can do to help that along, let me know.
[16:08] <JamesPage> what sort of thing do they currently cover?
[16:10] <smoser> its primarily only "does it come up" and be generally functional
[16:11] <smoser> further tests can easily be added, once the plumbing is there. once the instance is up and running its easy to add things to it
[16:12] <JamesPage> OK some some of the work we did for ISO testing (i.e. running tests once the instance is running) could work really well.
[16:12] <JamesPage> It would also be cool to plumb in the execution and test reporting to Hudson to make it accessible
[16:12] <mathiaz> JamesPage: I agree
[16:13] <mathiaz> JamesPage: AMIs are also published on a daily basis
[16:13] <mathiaz> JamesPage: so being able to test them automatically would also be helpful
[16:13] <robbiew> ttx: fyi...canonicaladmin is no happy with Server team ;)
[16:13] <mathiaz> JamesPage: the same way as -server daily isos are automaticaly tested
[16:13] <JamesPage> mathiaz, smoser: so we could potentially automatically test them as soon as they are published using triggers
[16:14]  * mathiaz nods
[16:14] <JamesPage> mathiaz: hope someone has a credit card with a high limit :-)
[16:15] <JamesPage> smoser: would you be able to attend cloud-server-n-automated-testing; think you knowledge of what we do today will be important
[16:16] <smoser> JamesPage, i will absolutely attend.
[16:16] <JamesPage> smoser: excellent!
[16:33] <twb> Suppose I have an centralized ldap/krb auth
[16:33] <twb> Suppose I also have a legacy system (let's say a SCO4 box) that can only do NIS.
[16:33] <twb> Can I set up a NIS slave pointing at an LDAP master?
[16:34] <twb> I suppose this is really a question for #openldap.
[16:34] <dv_> hello
[16:34] <dv_> my VM starts chef-solo when booting,
[16:34] <dv_> however chef-solo doesnt use an upstart script, just a regular init.d one
[16:35] <dv_> and it doesnt wait until the networking is set up
[16:35] <dv_> -> chef starts, and the chef scripts fail because they try to access the net, while dhclient is trying to get an IP address
[16:35] <dv_> any ideas how to force chef to wait until networking is done?
[16:36] <twb> Required-Start: $network?
[16:37] <dv_> hm. # Required-Start:     $remote_fs $network heartbeat
[16:37] <twb> ...except that upstart ignores LSB headers at the moment
[16:37] <dv_> oh :O
[16:37] <twb> If it isn't already, move it to... S40?
[16:37] <twb> IIRC traditionally 20 is disk and 40 is network
[16:38] <dv_> uh, its in rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d, .... rc6.d
[16:38] <twb> But I bet upstart ignores that, too, and they'll tell you to "just rewrite it as an upstart job"
[16:38] <twb> dv_: yes, and IN THERE it will have a prefix to control its location in the boot sequence
[16:38] <dv_> so rename it to S40 in each directory?
[16:39] <twb> Hm, looks like S20 is network
[16:40] <dv_> so rename it from S20 to S40 in each directory rc*.d ?
[16:40] <dv_> or just one?
[16:40] <twb> S20 is correct
[16:40] <dv_> btw. why is this thing in *every runlevel directory*?
[16:40] <twb> Because those are the default sysvinit semantics.
[16:40] <twb> See the Debian policy manual and the update-rc.d manpage
[16:41]  * flyback later all
[16:41] <hallyn> jdstrand: are you on the ubuntu-server m-l?
[16:46] <dev|null> hello guys, is it posible to compile a kernel with third party modules so it is embebed in the kernel and i dont have to insert them everytime with insmod
[16:47] <jdstrand> hallyn: yes. if you are referring to the apparmor/chroot issue, then the profile needs to be adjusted for a chrooted bind
[16:47] <twb> dev|null: if you are running insmod by hand, you are doing it wrong
[16:48] <dev|null> twb: i know i could do it in /etc/rc.local or something
[16:48] <hallyn> jdstrand: the profile he listed showed 'capability sys_chroot' - or was that for the wrong binary?
[16:48] <jdstrand> hallyn: the profile is setup for the default install (and some common configurations) and not chroot. there is no particular need to chroot if it is confined with apparmor, but it can be done if someone updates the profile
[16:48] <twb> dev|null: er, no, I mean as opposed to having modprobe.d and udev load modules in response to hardware detection
[16:49] <hallyn> jdstrand: but if chroot is already listed as allowed, then how else should the profile be updated?
[16:49] <dev|null> twb: it is not hardware modules, this are carp modules to run carp form kernel and not userland
[16:50] <jdstrand> hallyn: we need the dmesg
[16:50] <twb> Common Address Redundancy Protocol ?
[16:50] <jdstrand> hallyn: or he needs to look at it and determine what he needs to add
[16:50] <hallyn> all right - i've already asked him to open a bug
[16:50] <dev|null> twb: yes that CARP
[16:50] <resno> question about virutalization. i cant use kvm, i dont have the extenions on my cpu. any thouhts with using openvnz
[16:51] <twb> resno: OpenVZ became LXC
[16:51] <hallyn> jdstrand: alrighty, thx
[16:51] <jdstrand> hallyn: profiling is often iterative, so looking at the kernel outpu tis key
[16:51] <hallyn> (i'll save arguing about relying solely on apparmor for an in-person argument :)
[16:51] <resno> twb: oh, anything on lxc then :)
[16:52] <hallyn> yup, i'll ask for his dmesg when he opens a bug
[16:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: it is also useful to turn of kernel rate limiting when profiling
[16:52] <jdstrand> hallyn: otherwise you might lose important stuff
[16:53] <hallyn> i'd only asked for strace so far - just to make sure it was sys_chroot() that failed (and that it returned -EACCESS not -EPERM)
[17:01] <resno> question about virutalization. i cant use kvm, i dont have the extenions on my cpu. any thouhts with using openvnz/lxc
[17:05] <RoyK> resno: vserver?
[17:06] <hallyn> resno: what do you want to do with it?
[17:07] <hallyn> resno: i'd recommend looking at lxc.sf.net
[17:07] <resno> hallyn: mainly for home server, not really prpduction
[17:07] <clayd> how do you set up apache so that when it creates a file the owner of that directory can still edit it?  I am looking into how to set up a server to run multiple sites for different users.
[17:07] <hallyn> resno: of course the other thing you can try out is xen, but see if lxc suits your needs.
[17:07] <resno> RoyK: i am currently using virtualbox
[17:08] <resno> hallyn: is lxc straightforward to install and mange?
[17:08] <RoyK> vbox should work
[17:09] <resno> RoyK: its way to heavy :(
[17:10] <RoyK> it is?
[17:10] <RoyK> well
[17:10] <RoyK> vserver is light
[17:13] <hallyn> resno: yup
[17:13] <hallyn> resno: make sure to get an 0.7.x release (default if you're on maverick),
[17:13] <hallyn> resno: then creating a container is pretty trivial
[17:14] <hallyn> resno: (see http://s3hh.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/lxc-0-7-0/ - if yo'ure on lucid, you can get newer lxc from my ppa)
[17:15] <resno> im using 10.04 lts
[17:15] <resno> hallyn: ^
[17:16] <resno> ah, im using lucid :)
[17:17] <hallyn> resno: then i'd recommend getting lxc from https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/virt?field.series_filter=lucid
[17:17] <hallyn> resno: or install from git from lxc.sf.net
[17:17] <hallyn> resno: the reason is that the lucid version doesn't have the working lxc-ubuntu template, which is what makes it so much easier
[17:20] <resno> can i trust your ppa?
[17:22] <hallyn> resno: i'm on the server team, fwiw :)  i won't be offended if you d/l install from git
[17:23] <hallyn> resno: i'm just not going to SRU the lxc package because there were too many changes, and while they are a HUGE improvement, they are not bugfixes...  so it'd be wrong to push back to lucid
[17:23] <resno> ah i see
[17:25] <twb> If it's only the lxc userspace, anyone that needs the new featuers can just grab the package from a newer release -- it has negligible dependencies IIRC
[17:25] <hallyn> twb: how shoudl they do that?
[17:26] <twb> By main force :P
[17:26] <twb> Or get it into -backports instead of -security, I guess
[17:27] <hallyn> yeah, that'd be good - last time i wanted to get something into -backports i think the process stalled somewhere, but i can't recall what it was
[17:27] <resno> hallyn: whats the package name to install?
[17:27] <hallyn> lxc
[17:28] <resno> heh, i misspelled install LOL
[17:28] <twb> btw, libvirt doesn't use the lxc package at all
[17:28] <hallyn> nope, it has its own implementation
[17:28] <twb> So if you drunk their kool-aid, you get their builtin lxc userland
[17:28] <hallyn> one day i might try to change that again :)
[17:29] <hallyn> yes, but their lxc userland is much less usable
[17:29] <hallyn> the console is ... wanting
[17:29] <twb> That's what I guessed
[17:29] <twb> I couldn't see the point of libvirt on a host where only root needs to be able to setup/teardown VMs, and anyone with root is assumed to have a clue
[17:30] <patdk-wk> heh? root has a clue?
[17:30]  * patdk-wk wonders what places twb has worked :)
[17:31] <twb> patdk-wk: prisonpc.com, cybersource.com.au
[17:31] <twb> Admittedly, our SOHO customers don't have a clue, and they theoretically have root.
[17:31] <resno> hallyn: once ive got a container provisioned, and im installing, how do i get in to control the install process?
[17:31] <twb> *SOHO/SME
[17:32] <patdk-wk> my brother just learned the difference between # and $ this week
[17:32] <patdk-wk> he didn't understand why my prompt said # and his said $
[17:32] <twb> resno: the install procedure is debootstrap, not d-i
[17:32] <hallyn> resno: ah, here's where maybe lxc doesn't suit your needs.  you can't install from a cd into a container
[17:32] <resno> hallyn: how is it done?
[17:32] <hallyn> resno: like twb said - debootstrap
[17:33] <twb> hallyn: you probably could if you unpacked the initrd and lxc-execute'd /init, although it'd be dumb
[17:33] <hallyn> resno: fedora, debian, and suse each have their own way of doing it (febootstrap i think for fedora)
[17:33] <twb> Or cdebootstrap or multistrap
[17:33] <hallyn> twb: i'd worry about it attempting to play with disks
[17:33] <resno> hallyn: ah, i see ill have to do some research before this really gets working
[17:33] <twb> hallyn: make it the netinst ramdisk, then
[17:34] <twb> hallyn: obviously the block devices are virtualized, too
[17:34] <hallyn> now hopefully the config uses devices cgroup to stop it from writing to /dev/sda
[17:34] <hallyn> no,
[17:34] <hallyn> they're not virtualized
[17:34] <twb> "virtualized" as in the same as chroot(8) is virtualizing the VFS
[17:34] <hallyn> right.  pivot_root(0
[17:34] <twb> Not as in emulating a disk controller
[17:35] <hallyn> why can't i hit ) ever in irc
[17:35] <twb> hallyn: fat fingers?
[17:35] <patdk-wk> ) is pretty far up on the keyboard
[17:35] <hallyn> lazy ones
[17:37] <twb> As for me, my editor inserts ( and ) together.
[17:50] <Vibedigital> its possible zabbix use dns name on agent and not  IP? someone can help?
[18:13] <kirkland> hallyn: yo
[18:15] <ruben23> hi guys i have a folder of assorted date recordings how do i copy or extract a particular recordings for a date. sample i want october adn september recordings only- teh file name is name_date.
[18:18] <hallyn> kirkland: .
[18:18] <hallyn> kirkland: (heading out soon)
[18:19] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, i was just letting you know that i'm working on your qemu-kvm and seabios merges now
[18:19] <hallyn> thx
[18:21] <kirkland> hallyn: did you re-roll the qemu-kvm without the binary blobs yet?
[18:24] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, i'm skipping qemu-kvm for now
[18:24] <kirkland> hallyn: looking at seabios
[18:28] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, uploaded seabios
[18:32] <hhlp> ubuntu server 10.10 documentation is available in any place ?
[18:33] <ScottK> hhlp: help.ubuntu.com
[18:33] <ScottK> hhlp: Same as the link in /topic for 10.04, but with the release number changed.
[18:34] <ScottK> acutally not
[18:34] <ScottK> That's a problem.
[18:36] <ScottK> sommer: Do you know what's up with help.ubuntu.com and no docs for 10.10?
[18:37] <hhlp> ScottK, -> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/     page not found
[18:37] <ScottK> hhlp: Yes.  I discovered that.  Sorry for the bad pointer.
[18:37] <hhlp> ScottK, np
[18:38] <ScottK> sommer, (who I just pinged) is the server docs person, so we'll see what he has to say.
[18:38] <hallyn> kirkland: yes, binary blobs are removed from qemu-kvm
[19:09] <RoAkSoAx> sommer: ping
[19:58] <gbrandao> Hello, I would like to help you. The kernel has support ubuntu server database cache? Please!
[19:58] <twb> gbrandao: I don't understand the question.
[19:59] <JKL_> twb: your not alone
[20:00] <JKL_> you are
[20:00] <JKL_> ^^
[20:13] <RoyK> http://izismile.com/2010/10/22/daily_picdump_151_pics-89.html lol
[20:19] <david506> Is it possible to do NAT in ubuntu without the use of iptables -j MASQUERADE ?
[20:22] <RoyK> david506: doubt it
[20:22] <RoyK> david506: why?
[20:23] <david506> I need to do NAT handling, but the kernel doesn't accept -j MASQUERADE, arg. Stupid vserver
[20:23] <RoyK> you can't do that stuff with vserver
[20:23] <david506> Stupid vserve
[20:25]  * RoyK is writing about a 250TB setup - how we did it
[20:26] <david506> 250 harddrives ? ;)
[20:26] <david506> all daisy changed on usb 1.1 :)
[20:26] <RoyK> 1.0
[20:26] <RoyK> :D
[20:27] <RoyK> no, opensolaris-based, 160ish 2TB drives
[20:27] <david506> Oh ok
[20:27] <RoyK> ZFS FTW!
[20:27] <twb> david506: yes, with -j SNAT
[20:28] <twb> david506: MASQUERADE is for hosts with dynamically-allocated public addresses; SNAT is for hosts with predictable public addresses.
[20:28] <david506> Nice timing, I just found an article talking about that
[20:28] <RoyK> twb: he's having a vserver install - can't do kernel stuff from there
[20:28] <twb> Ah, right.
[20:29] <david506> I can control snat in the vserver d
[20:29] <david506> :d
[20:30] <RoyK> nope
[20:30] <david506> I guess I'll have to do some reading on Snat
[20:30] <RoyK> david506: no need - you can't do iptables from vserver
[20:30] <twb> So vserver is a container (jail) technology.  I thought it was xen-style hypervisor-based.
[20:30] <twb> Not that it matters; vserver's even deadedr than openvz
[20:30] <david506> this one I can
[20:31] <david506> I can do most iptables in this vserver, it's just masquerade doesn't work
[20:37] <david506> Apparently SNAT and MASQUERADE are the same thing, MASQUERADE use IPs and MASQUERADE interface...
[20:37] <david506> http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2001-May/011734.html
[20:42] <Ayrton> how to upgrade my ubuntu server with update-manager-core over a ssh session?
[20:43] <Ayrton> i'm using karmic
[20:43] <RoyK> do-release-upgrade ?
[20:44] <Ayrton> RoyK, it say that a daemon of ssh will open in port 9004
[20:44] <Ayrton> but, not happens
[20:44] <Ayrton> whait a minute, strangly happens
[20:44] <RoyK> Ayrton: I've done some upgrades, and it hasn't cut the ssh connection yet
[20:44] <Ayrton> wait*
[20:48] <Ayrton> RoyK, it a translation issue
[20:48] <Ayrton> in my language, when I confirm to S, to sim (yes), not happens
[20:48] <Ayrton> and the prompt get cancel
[20:48] <Ayrton> RoyK, I need to confirm with Y
[20:49] <Ayrton> i will report this bug on translations team
[20:49] <RoyK> Ayrton: out of interest - what is your language?
[20:51] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I setup external rules?  My current setup isn't learning the spam, and I'd like to use an external list
[20:51] <Ayrton> RoyK, brazilian portuguese
[20:51] <RoyK> ok
[20:52] <Ayrton> I'm talking with the brazilian translations team at now
[20:52] <Ayrton> thanks for the attention ^^
[20:53] <RoyK> which reminds me of http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljokebushbrazilian.htm
[20:53] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I setup external rules?  My current setup isn't learning the spam, and I'd like to use an external list
[21:08] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I setup external rules?  My current setup isn't learning the spam, and I'd like to use an external list
[21:09] <david506> how can I see the outbound packets to make sure snat did it's job ?
[21:26] <Delemas> I rolled a server into a kvm VM. It's running Ubuntu 10.04 with the virtual kernel. The kernel has virtio_net built in. It works for several other VMs with same kernel. The buggy VM sees virtio_net in lspci but it never seems to recognize it as ethX. Ideas to fix it?
[21:26] <david506> So I have two internet connections now, and I want all my traffic to go out on connection 1, the rest on connection 2. I do not want to do and mangling or nat. Help ?
[21:31] <twb> After "all", "the rest" is zero.
[22:30] <Dravekx> can someone help me get mod rewrite working on ubuntu server?
[22:31] <Dravekx> or is there a way to tell if it is active?
[22:34] <Dravekx> snap. I got it. I had the base wrong


[00:57] <nuf0xx> o/
[00:57] <nuf0xx> any advice on wheather or not to upgrade to kernel 3.9.x to fix a card reader issue?
[00:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's hard to say. The last time I had a card reader issue was in arch. I don't think it was the kernel.
[00:59] <nuf0xx> I have confirmed that the issue with my reader is fixed in the 3.9 kernel. just wondering if it may cause othe unforseen issues. Is it stable?
[01:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh....
[01:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> I try not to update the kernel beyond the version included in a release. I'm not that savvy yet.
[01:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, it can be done. I've seen people do it sucessfully.
[01:07] <xabster> tumblerd crashes all the time
[01:07] <xabster> is it needed?
[01:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, it shouldn't crash all the time.
[01:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, it's not super critical.
[01:09] <xabster> it's annoying is what it is :)
[01:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's just a thumbnailer for picture and video files.
[01:09] <xabster> besides, it crashes before it generates any thumbnails
[01:09] <xabster> so, why have it?
[01:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> Are you by chance accessing videos from a share?
[01:09] <xabster> no
[01:10] <xabster> it's a torrent downloaded video clip
[01:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's when it use to crash for me.
[01:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh!
[01:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> Same difference.
[01:10] <xabster> hmm
[01:10] <xabster> I reboot many times since
[01:10] <xabster> the file is still just a file...
[01:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> The thumbnailer cycles through the file for thumbnails as it's downloading.
[01:10] <xabster> on the harddrive
[01:10] <xabster> it's been correctly and fully downloaded for long now
[01:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> eventually, it gets tired
[01:11] <xabster> sudo apt-get remove tumbler ?
[01:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> worst case, sudo apt-get remove tumblerd
[01:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol, jinx
[01:11] <xabster> :)
[01:11] <xabster> i
[01:11] <xabster> i'm scared now
[01:11] <xabster> "Removing xubuntu-desktop ...
[01:11] <xabster> "
[01:11] <xabster> it said that
[01:12] <xabster> oh, i guess that's an "umbrella" kind of package
[01:13] <xabster> because i no longer have ALL the standard packages in that "group", it removes it
[01:13] <xabster> and leaves me with each package individually?
[01:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, the meta-package
[01:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm told those are safe to delete. But, I get kinda scared.
[01:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> When I delete meta-packages, sudo apt-get autoremove wants to remove all kinds of things that I still use.
[01:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm on the fence about meta packages.
[01:14] <xabster> hmm
[02:15] <gdos> is it possible to use symbolic links (either hard or soft) to point from /var/www/doc (http://localhost/doc) to file://localhost/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html ...???
[02:18] <`Fibz`> nnot sure what your trying to accomplish but yes, a symbolic link is usable. maybe an entry into the hosts file might be needed based on whatever it is your trying to do
[02:23] <xabster> gdos, you want http://localhost/doc to load a file that is not in var/www ?
[02:24] <gdos> yes dhelp is not loading the files in /var/www/doc/HTML as per the description but rather /usr/share/doc/HTML instead.
[02:31] <gdos> i used 'sudo ln -s /usr/share/doc/HTML /var/www/help' and it nearly did it. sorta. but everything did not appear to link correctly.
[03:15] <gdos> add "FollowSymLinks" as an option for your DocumentRoot
[04:18] <xabster> hah, chrome crashed and gave a report, then apport crashed trying to show me the report, and the lsb_release crashed
[04:22] <holstein> xabster: chrome? or chromium?
[04:23] <xabster> chromium
[04:23] <holstein> xabster: in 13.04?
[04:23] <xabster> yes
[04:35] <gdos> how do i install seamonkey?
[04:36] <holstein> !info seamonkey
[04:36] <holstein> gdos: i think its been removed.. what are you trying to do?
[04:37] <gdos> holstein: install it. i actually prefer that browser over ff/chromium.
[04:37] <holstein> gdos: it bascially is firefox.. but, you'll need to manually install it, or find an un-offically supported ppa
[04:38] <holstein> gdos: you'll see links to ppa's and other references at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey
[04:38] <gdos> how'd manually install it? copy the installation directory over to /var?
[04:39] <holstein> gdos: i would visit the site where the creators make the application available, and follow whatever directions they offer.. or just add one of the ppa's.. or use a more supported browser
[04:42] <gdos> holstein: ok. i'm trying bratherlui's ppa
[04:42] <gdos> i prefer the email app in seamonkey over thunderbird.
[04:43] <holstein> gdos: as long as you are not expecting it to be an up to date, or well supported, or secure/safe product, do what you like
[04:55] <gdos> how hard is it to convert a tar.bz2 to a .deb file?
[05:00] <holstein> gdos: thats not the way it'll work
[05:01] <holstein> gdos: you might download something in a compressed format, and open it, and build it, and then you could make a package from that
[05:01] <holstein> gdos: i would just use a PPA
[05:01] <gdos> ok.
[08:49] <cfhowlett_> !java>me
[10:13] <buu> so uh
[10:13] <buu> How exactly do you use dc?
[10:13] <buu> Oh, you have to print
[10:13] <buu> That's not very friendly =[
[10:36] <x_> aas
[10:39] <Megabyte> Hello, guys
[10:39] <buu> Is there someway to change which libraries a dynamically linked executable uses?
[10:40] <Megabyte> I tried to unzip seamonkey, but when I run it, I get a "file not found error"
[10:40] <Megabyte> what is wrong?
[10:40] <buu> Megabyte: Paste the shell session in a pastebin
[10:41] <Megabyte> x@Amber:~/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey
[10:41] <Megabyte> bash: ./seamonkey: No such file or directory
[10:42] <Megabyte> buu, It's as simple as that...
[10:42] <Megabyte> the file *is* there, though
[10:44] <Megabyte> buu, what is going on?
[10:51] <buu> Megabyte: what is the first line of ./seamonkey ?
[10:51] <Megabyte> It's a binary file
[10:51] <buu> And why are you unzipping things?
[10:51] <Megabyte> buu, there's no package of seamonkey for xubuntu
[10:51] <Megabyte> so you must unzip a binary package
[10:52] <buu> Megabyte: what does 'file ./seamonkey' say?
[10:52] <Megabyte> x@Amber:~/seamonkey$ file ./seamonkey
[10:52] <Megabyte> ./seamonkey: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped
[10:58] <buu> Megabyte: Generally speaking that particular error means that linux can't figure out how to execute that file. Its either a binary it doesn't understand or an "interpreted file" with a shebang it can't find
[10:58] <buu> can you run strace ./seamonkey
[10:59] <elfy> works here ok - or would if it didn't have a libasound2 error
[11:02] <Megabyte> http://pastebin.com/4jwQZirJ
[11:02] <Megabyte> There it is
[11:02] <Megabyte> (Sorry, I'm using Links 2 for now)
[11:03] <buu> welp
[11:03] <buu> Megabyte: what is uname -a
[11:03] <Megabyte> Linux Amber 3.8.0-31-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:03:44 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:04] <buu> Does the x64 version work any better?
[11:05] <Megabyte> I didn't see any. Perhaps it is a little obscure to find?
[11:11] <bekks> buu: No. But 64bit is state of the art nowadays.
[11:15] <elfy> Megabyte: there is a 64bit version http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ - at the bottom, contributed
[11:15] <elfy> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.21/contrib/seamonkey-2.21.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
[11:16] <elfy> runs here ok
[11:16] <Megabyte> Thanks
[11:20] <Megabyte> elfy, I got the source package here, so I'll try to build from it
[11:20] <Megabyte> let's see if it works...
[11:46] <Megabyte> elfy, I intend to build a deb package. Is there any way I can make it available in the repository?
[11:51] <elfy> Megabyte: I don't know anything about ppa's other than people can do it I'm afraid
[13:23] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody know a robust solution to disable the update notifier in xfce? i set that it should be displayed, also in gconf but it is show every time i did: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[13:25] <cfhowlett> gregor3005, software center center > settings > software sources > updates > When there are updates ...
[13:28] <gregor3005> cfhowlett: i can't disable it there
[13:30] <gregor3005> cfhowlett: i can remove the ticks on "install updates from" but then i can't update in the background with "sudo apt-get upgradE"
[13:30] <olbi> is USC there is last option which you should choose: Never. It should help :)
[13:30] <gregor3005> olbi: but this is only for new releases not for software updates
[13:31] <olbi> sorry, 1 option and change to never
[13:31] <olbi> this should never check the updates
[13:31] <olbi> so there will no be any notifications
[13:31] <gregor3005> olbi: should but it doesn't do it in that way
[13:31] <olbi> unless you check this manually
[13:31] <gregor3005> olbi: ah, ok maybe now i understand it
[13:32] <gregor3005> olbi: but i think every time when "apt-get update" is running the notification is displayed, so also when new software will be installed it notifies you about new updates
[13:33] <olbi> yes :), you have ridht
[13:33] <olbi> but when you install it it will be gone
[13:33] <olbi> I have choose checking the updates one per week and it works
[13:34] <gregor3005> olbi: ok, its the pc for my mother who has a prepaid internet access and there she has not much download volume. and i wan't to avoid that she installed updates
[13:34] <gregor3005> olbi: so from time to time i come to here with my internet stick and install the updates
[14:03] <r7_> Hi everyone
[14:03] <r7_> I installed Xubuntu on BTRFS filesystem. And I have this error at startup: "sparse file not found, press any key to continue"
[14:33] <gdos> on an another account (using desktop profile) one is unable to access desktop (wallpaper) settings. locks up everytime.
[17:24] <xubuntu586> Could you pls instruct me how to enable system sounds?  I've checked the box enable system sounds but to no avail.
[17:26] <xubuntu586> I would really appreciate your expertease in solving this mystery :)
[17:33] <xubuntu586> There are sound folders, and "enable event sounts"  checkbox checked... so what's happening in between is outside of my current knowledge...
[19:21] <aicasn> this is totally OT so i apologize but i thought you folks might have a better idea....  i need to put a free office suite onto a lady's PC. does anyone know whether OOo or libreoffice works better on windows?  thanks
[19:22] <Pici> aicasn: try asking in ##windows
[19:22] <aicasn> i shall try...
[19:22] <cub> aicasn: Better is depending on how you ask. I have run both with no issues, though I prefer libreoffice
[19:23] <cub> -how +who
[19:24] <aicasn> most compatible vs. MS office. this lady is older and not techie.  if the program she uses to open her .docx files garbles them then the program isn't useful
[19:25] <bekks> aicasn: that may happen - blame it on M$.
[19:25] <cub> hmm then I'm not sure. I get some docx which opens in libreoffice, but layout and fonts might be different and not look so good sometimes
[19:27] <buu> Isn't libreoffice the newer/more maintained one
[19:27] <aicasn> MS is completely freekin retarded. They won't sell me a copy of Office 2010 for her. The want her to upgrade (pay $$) for Windows 8 (on her dual-core 1.2GHz, 512MB RAM dinosaur), then get her to buy a copy of Office Live
[19:28] <aicasn> i was on the phone for like 3 hours this morning looking for a little help. Nada
[19:32] <bekks> aicasn: Office 2010 isnt sold anymore by MS, and you may get it officially from various stores. And it is offtopic in here :)
[19:32] <bgardner> ...very, very OT...
[19:52] <linuxuz3r> hi
[20:07] <Pop-Tart> Hiya! I just installed Xubuntu. I know this is a dumb question and I should Google more, but how do I change the color of the titlebar? Does a theme do that, or is it an option under Appearance?
[20:08] <buu> Pop-Tart: Have you tried settings -> appearance?
[20:09] <Pop-Tart> Yes, I've checked there.
[20:10] <knome> Pop-Tart, the xfwm themes mainly control the window borders. see under settings manager -> window manager -> tab style
[20:10] <buu> Isn't the top bar actually a panel?
[20:11] <knome> Pop-Tart, some xfwm themes allow the gtk themes (in settings manager -> appearance -> tab style) to manage the colors though
[20:11] <buu> oh
[20:11] <buu> Titlebar of windows?
[20:11] <Pop-Tart> Yes
[20:11] <buu> Heh, I thought you meant the top panel =]
[20:12] <Pop-Tart> I just want to change the color from white/grey to something darker/black, like the top panel. It hurts my eyes.
[20:24] <Pop-Tart> I still haven't managed to figure it out yet, but basically I just want this: http://i.imm.io/1iph8.png to look like this: http://i.imm.io/1iphp.png
[20:26] <`Fibz`> window manager -> themes , + panel options -> appearance
[20:26] <`Fibz`> all are in launcher -> settings -> settings manager
[20:28] <`Fibz`> might need to right click task bar -> properties -> show flat buttons
[20:35] <peyam> hi
[20:35] <`Fibz`> hi
[20:37] <gregor30051> hi, i have a problem with the networkconnection on an workstation, when i do "dhclient eth0" it works perfect. but when i configure the network with the network applet i didn't get any connection. also is it not possible to see my networkconfiguration in the applet to click on it
[20:38] <gregor30051> in grayed text i see that the device is not managed. what should that mean?
[20:38] <`Fibz`> xubuntu version?
[20:39] <gregor30051> `Fibz`: 13.04. clean installed and updated
[20:43] <`Fibz`> you can disable network manager from autostart and use /etc/network/interfaces instead
[20:45] <gregor30051> `Fibz`: thx i try it
[20:47] <gregor30051> `Fibz`: now i have dhcp automatically on that device but the applet configuration are not shown
[20:48] <`Fibz`> if you have a chance, try confirming it on a virtual machine or something and submit a bug report
[20:50] <`Fibz`> i've got a box running 13.04 32bit with internet access through eth0 with no issues over here
[20:52] <gregor30051> `Fibz`: i found a solution and the cause: in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf in the ifupdown section managed was set to false :-)
[20:52] <`Fibz`> ah
[20:53] <gregor30051> `Fibz`: the next problem will be to fix the problem with the gsm usb stick
[21:48] <dvanduzer> I've got something very broken about my 13.04 install and my nvidia twinview. Is 13.04 supposed to still be using xfce 4.10?
[21:51] <`Fibz`> yes
[21:51] <`Fibz`> i wouldnt expect a new xfce untill 12
[21:52] <`Fibz`> but i dont know
[21:55] <theixle> When I boot Xubuntu I get an error message that I'm trying to diagnose to speed up booting time. Does anyone know what 'usb 1-1.1: string descriptor 0 read error: -22' means?
[21:58] <linuxuz3r> how do i make xubuntu turn off monitor after not using for a while
[21:59] <dvanduzer> `Fibz`: thanks much.  the configuration is working in lightdm, but I log in, wait for a minute, and it kicks me back to the login screen. any hints you'd suggest?
[22:03] <theixle> linuxuz3r: Settings Manager -> Power Management or Screensaver whichever you prefer
[22:05] <`Fibz`> theixle, http://www.cm19a.com/2013/02/how-to-disable-linux-kernel-drivers.html
[22:05] <linuxuz3r> theixle, i cant find the screensaver
[22:06] <`Fibz`> linuxuz3r,  launcher -> settings -> settings manager -> Power Manager -> On AC -> Monitor
[22:08] <linuxuz3r> `Fibz`, thanks
[22:09] <theixle> Thanks Fibz
[22:13] <`Fibz`> dvanduzer,  maybe something in here?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/129610/login-screen-wont-accept-my-password
[22:15] <dvanduzer> `Fibz`: thanks, I'll try nuking my .Xauthority.
[22:55] <yeik> anybody here good with dpkg that could possibly help me look at an issue http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w


[00:53] <cjgratacos> hey peeps
[00:53] <cjgratacos> I have notice a strange bug in ubuntu budgie
[00:54] <cjgratacos> hot corners are not working at the moment
[10:02] <adsworth> Hi, I use two docking stations with my notebook (office and home), when I dock my notebook I have to manually open the Display settings for budgie to setup my screens. Is that expected or is there someway I can get budgie to automatically setup my screens as soons as I dock the notebook?
[17:29] <CRPL> Hello guys. Does budgie come with an alt-tab switcher now ?
[21:59] <Raqbit> Yup


[11:39] <sixwheeledbeast> Is there a simple way to make "desktop users" not able to access each others /home?
[11:40] <sixwheeledbeast> Or do I just 700 /home is there any issues doing that.
[16:46] <alkisg> sixwheeledbeast: $ grep HOME_MODE /etc/login.defs
[16:46] <alkisg> HOME_MODE	0750
[16:46] <alkisg> This is the default in 21.04+; you can do that for existing users with sudo chmod 750 /home/*
[16:53] <sixwheeledbeast> alkisg: so will that change all the file permissions?
[16:55] <alkisg> sixwheeledbeast: no file permission at all. Only the "entry" directories, e.g. /home/username
[16:55] <alkisg> And that is enough to block others from viewing all subfolders
[16:57] <sixwheeledbeast> oh i see
[17:09] <sixwheeledbeast> i think I build these with 20.04, cba fiddling with 22.04.


[06:29] <Noskcaj> How long till wayland/weston 1.6.1 will be in ubuntu? Saves me some work with the libinput transition if it's soon
[12:00] <tjaalton> asking the wrong question :) it's synced from debian so should preferably go there first
[12:04] <tjaalton> ah they got pushed to experimental, so needs a manual sync
[19:06] <Noskcaj> tjaalton, if a patch is added in ubuntu for weston, should it be quilt or directly applied?
[19:06] <Noskcaj> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/?id=c54f23d8df4e758f097d127df4d44d7a00059cef in this case
[19:06] <tjaalton> Noskcaj: I prefer quilt
[19:07] <Noskcaj> ok, there are patches by debian already directly applied though
[19:07] <tjaalton> i've synced them though, is this not in 1.6.1?
[19:08] <Noskcaj> 1.6.91
[19:08] <tjaalton> ok
[19:09] <tjaalton> well, assuming it'll get synced anyway in the future guess I don't mind how it's applied
[19:10] <tjaalton> newer libinput is in debian NEW btw
[19:18] <tjaalton> i also assume debian will get the new versions once libinput 0.9 is in
[19:18] <tjaalton> 1.6.9x that is


[19:01] <techsanity> What would be an appropriate channel for reporting an issue with testing Ubuntu 24.04, whereas after I've installed from the server daily build, and updating packages, that I can't install apache2 nor nginx, because of package dependency issues?
[19:01] <techsanity> > apache2 : Depends: apache2-data (= 2.4.58-1ubuntu2) but 2.4.58-1ubuntu6 is to be installed
[19:02] <techsanity> > nginx : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.24.0-2ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed
[21:00] <tomreyn> !next | techsanity
[21:01] <techsanity> Thank you
[21:01] <tomreyn> techsanity: note that there are currently several dependency issues in that release due to the xz-utils backdoor counter measures
[21:01] <techsanity> ahh alright, that probably explains part of it