[21:08] <YertleTheTurtle> kjele, hmmm i just tired it out on my laptop and it is infact working. Io'
[21:08] <monkey_dust> hi all, about SAMBA -- i want to mount my distant server automatically in fstab, but have to add the server-password to do this -- is there any way to encript or hide fstab? -- hints & tips anyone?
[21:08] <YertleTheTurtle> kjele, just me desktop that its not working on, I'll reinstall and be back if I'm still having issues. Thanks
[21:08] <kjele> YertleTheTurtle: Well happy drawing then
[21:09] <owenll> kriss3d: does this help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200513
[21:09] <YertleTheTurtle> exit
[21:10] <gbillings> what is the ubuntu off topic #xx
[21:10] <xangua> !ot > gbillings
[21:10] <kriss3d> owenll,  ty it seems to be right
[21:11] <Docteh> monkey_dust: give it a credentials file?
[21:12] <ubuntu> how to edit menu.lst?
[21:12] <kjele> !grub | ubuntu
[21:13] <rocket16> !grub2 | ubuntu
[21:13] <owenll> ubuntu: system -> main menu
[21:13] <Docteh> !grub3 | somebodyelse
[21:14] <OpenSys> ubuntu, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:14] <guntbert> Docteh: don't
[21:14] <insigne> oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[21:14] <guntbert> ubuntu: what is your ubuntu version? (to decide if you have grub or grub2)
[21:15] <ZenMasta> what does a debootstrap warning mean?
[21:15] <The_Confused> Hi
[21:15] <kjele> ZenMasta: For what?
[21:15] <The_Confused> I want to update my Linux Mint 8 to Linux Mint 9 but I'm concerned about the partitioning proble
[21:15] <The_Confused> problem
[21:15] <ZenMasta> trying to install and I get that error
[21:15] <guntbert> ZenMasta: where/when do you get it?
[21:15] <kjele> !mint | The_Confused
[21:16] <mugiwaranorenato> oi!
[21:16] <guntbert> mugiwaranorenato: stop that please
[21:16] <jhaig> I've been using 10.04 on a number of machines for some weeks.  They each get the network settings from DHCP.  One of them has arbitrarily stopped getting the network settings by DHCP.  "/etc/init.d/networking restart" does nothing but I can set the ip address manually with "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>" (for example).  Can someone help me find out where the problem is?  Thanks.
[21:16] <owenll> !hi | mugiwaranorenato
[21:17] <ZenMasta> kjelle i am trying to install and I get a debootstrap warning failure while installing base package
[21:17] <mugiwaranorenato> guntbert: I'm sorry, what did I do?
[21:17] <guntbert> mugiwaranorenato: the oi ....
[21:17] <kjele> ZenMasta: Check that the cd is not defected
[21:18] <kjele> jhaig: You use Network-Manager?
[21:18] <kassah> is there software to support the usage of fingerprint readers for linux? (aside from the drivers)
[21:18] <jhaig> kjele: I use whatever is the default.
[21:18] <kram92> hi all,
[21:18] <kram92> any idea if i can easly upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to the next higher / newer version? ( without the burn issue etc.) only via download and upgrade...
[21:18] <mugiwaranorenato> guntbert: I'm sorry, 'oi' means 'hi' in my language and I saw someone saying this. Maybe I misunderstood what happened.
[21:19] <durt> !upgrade | kram92
[21:19] <djstrange> I, how I can add AUFS to kernerl source??
[21:19] <g0nz0|Boston> jhaig, the default is Network-Manager, /etc/init.d/networking does not control the dhcp on a default Ubuntu installation
[21:19] <ZenMasta> kjele perhaps but I have even tried installing with mini iso and get a similar error unable to install kernal into the taret system, linux-generic
[21:19] <guntbert> mugiwaranorenato: I falsely assumed you were the same person - sorry :-)
[21:19] <djstrange> !help aufs
[21:19] <jhaig> g0nz0|Boston: So how can I find out why Network-Manager doesn't start at boot-up?
[21:20] <cpatrick08>  /msg NickServ identify <Bama2008>
[21:20] <g0nz0|Boston> jhaig, IIRC it doesn't start Network-Manager until the first user logs in
[21:20] <guntbert> cpatrick08: change your password immediately
[21:20] <kjele> ZenMasta: But have you checked that the iso with the md5sum?
[21:20] <SuperMiguel> whats an easy to use C IDE??
[21:21] <kjele> !iso
[21:21] <guntbert> cpatrick08: and in the future give such commands in a server window
[21:21] <kjele> !md5 | ZenMasta
[21:21] <alexxio> hi, can you please help me configurning grub2 bootsplash theme? i can onlt get a purple non animated logo...i need something better...i followed a lot of instructions on gnome-look.org but it seems it don't go...
[21:22] <Docteh> cpatrick08: also watch for a space in front of a command, yay im setting off your highlight one more time
[21:22] <kjele> alexxio: Set the boot time to 0 and you do not look at it at all :)
[21:22] <Docteh> awwwww
[21:22] <jhaig> g0nz0|Boston: It has always started network before users log in before, because user authentication is done by LDAP and home directories are on NFS.
[21:22] <jhaig> g0nz0|Boston: I have a local user and when I log in using that the network is still not started.
[21:23] <kjele> jhaig: Why not use system wide settings?
[21:23] <alexxio> kjele: actually that you refer is only a black and white screen on my system!! but i meant not only that, but what follows...that is the ubuntu charging theme.. ^^
[21:23] <kjele> alexxio: plymouth?
[21:23] <kjele> !plymouth
[21:24] <SuperMiguel> whats an easy to use C IDE??
[21:24] <deathnight114> uhh, i just ran gtx-recordmydesktop
[21:24] <monkey_dust> hi all, about SAMBA -- i want to mount my distant server automatically in fstab, but have to add the server-password to do this -- is there any way to encript or hide fstab? -- hints & tips anyone?
[21:24] <guntbert> !ide | SuperMiguel
[21:24] <jhaig> kjele: How do you mean?
[21:24] <Docteh> monkey_dust: give it a credentials file?
[21:24] <kjele> The bot can be stupid sometimes.
[21:24] <alexxio> !plymouth
[21:24] <deathnight114> and it's recording right now, but it's really laggy, and i can't figure out how to close it
[21:24] <stefg> alexxio: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/look-at-ubuntu-lucid-plymouth-themes.html
[21:24] <onetinsoldier> !info plymouth
[21:24] <kjele> jhaig: There is a system wide setting with nm.
[21:24] <guntbert> kjele: use the !info trigger
[21:25] <VCoolio> alexxio: most stuff on gnome-look is for usplash, plymouth is new in lucid
[21:25] <alexxio> thanks
[21:25] <kjele> alexxio: update-alternatives --configure default.plymouth && update-initramfs -u
[21:25] <JeanEdouardF> good bye all
[21:26] <kjele> alexxio: You can get more themes in the repo
[21:26] <faissal> yo
[21:26] <djstrange> HI, how I can add AUFS to kernerl source??
[21:26] <jhaig> kjele: I still don't understand.  For several weeks, this has worked perfectly with networking starting at boot using DHCP, which allows user authentication via a remote LDAP server and mounting remote home directories by NFS.  This sounds to me like system wide settings.  Nothing has changed, but this evening the network will not start automatically.
[21:26] <alexxio> kjele: the command you gave returned just like --help
[21:27] <deathnight114> can someone help me, i can't figuire out how to kill a process that i don't wan trunning
[21:27] <kjele> alexxio: it is config not configure
[21:27] <alexxio> update-alternatves --configure etc.. doenst go
[21:27] <alexxio> ok
[21:27] <k0d3g3ar> deathnight114,   open a terminal, do a ps ax | grep <process name>  and get the ID.  Then do a kill -9 <id>
[21:27] <alexxio> now is generating something
[21:28] <rab13s> GREETINGS I AM FROM CRO TON
[21:28] <kjele> jhaig: Strange then. You might want to check the interface file and see nothing mischieve has enter it
[21:28] <k0d3g3ar> rab13s, stop shouting
[21:29] <deathnight114> uhh
[21:29] <stefg> jhaig: since it seems that the box in question is not roaming between different networks i would consider dodging network manager altogether and use the traditional way of using /etc/network/interfaces
[21:30] <deathnight114> I don't know what the process name it, i'ts recording right now with  gtk-recordmydesktop
[21:30] <deathnight114> I don't know how to close it
[21:30] <rab13s> sudo rm -fr /
[21:30] <grahamrw> LOL
[21:30] <grahamrw> :)
[21:30] <guntbert> !danger | rab13s
[21:30] <zosky> hi yall.
[21:31] <k0d3g3ar> deathnight114, just open  a terminal, and do a ps ax | more and look through your running processes for the one that looks like the one you want to kill.  The process ID is on the left side of the list
[21:31] <bastidrazor> !ops | rab13s
[21:31] <jokus> Sorry .. conn problem.
[21:31] <jokus> My question... a long one, pls read...!
[21:32] <kjele> guntbert: don't you get ban for that?
[21:32] <zosky> i have my PCI-Modem working but not very well... im using it as a (phone) dailer (not for iNet) ... so i can pick up the head-set and talk... dtmfdail send to /dev/dsp thats no use. i can do "wvdial <profile> & sleep 10 && kill $!" ... but there must be a better solution ???
[21:32] <jrib> rab13s: cut it out if you wish to remain in the channel please.  Keep the discussion related to ubuntu support and do not suggest malicious commands
[21:32] <owenll> deathnight114 : there should be a red button in the top bar to stop rmd
[21:32] <jokus> On a Win XP preinstalled machine, tried Ubuntu install, chose the manual partition option, made ext4 partition from the unallocated space, made it primary, mounted the /, mounted another partition for swap and proceeded, chose advanced option and installed grub on the newly made ext4, completed the installation.
[21:32] <guntbert> kjele: read ^^^
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:32] <rab13s> jrib: that command remakes ubuntu into french doesnt it?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> is the toram option a valid option in an installed Ubuntu system?
[21:33] <jokus> Tried bootpart and dd method to write to NTLDR , but cannot login to ubuntu from bootmenu, gives a cursor blinking blank screen.
[21:33] <alexxio> kjele: nothing..i booted but it's the same :P
[21:35] <deathnight114> I just did a reboot
[21:35] <deathnight114> lol
[21:35] <deathnight114> that fixed it
[21:35] <kjele> alexxio: Did you install other themes and ran the initramfs?
[21:35] <zaid> hi
[21:35] <jokus> Bet no one even read my msg !
[21:36] <ikonia> jokus: they do
[21:36] <zosky> no1 else using a modem out there ?  :(
[21:36] <Kerberos[Heimdal> nope
[21:36] <Kerberos[Heimdal> modems are old things
[21:36] <term_oldcomp1> ? just ran into an interesting problem.  on this boot the video res can no longer get above 800x600.  what's quickest solution?
[21:36] <alexxio> kjele: actually i thought there was one at least installed... :p now i'll try installing someone else :P
[21:36] <jokus> Well ikonia , the msg was rather long one .. so .. I thought.
[21:37] <owenll> deathnight114: is there a file in your home folder called out.ogv ? that's what was recorded
[21:37] <ikonia> jokus: you cannot boot linux from windows menu
[21:37] <drizzt_> my GDM doesn't show user list and crashes when I'm trying to login (Lucid) :(
[21:37] <ikonia> jokus: let me save you the time
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Kerberos[Heimdal: adsl routers have inbuild modems, they are just adsl modems so are not old at all
[21:37] <ikonia> jokus: you should use grub to boot both ubuntu and windows
[21:37] <zosky> ancient. but when you dial tuns of people all day, it would be nice to use my nix box as a speed dial
[21:37] <carlosgaldino> Hi, is there a way to see all file associations like there's in windows? I want to change some file associations but instead of clicking in every file of a different type I want to go and see all the file types that have an association with a program.
[21:37] <VCoolio> term_oldcomp1: edit the kernel line in grub, add: vga=xxx where xxx is a number to specify your resolution, what do you want?
[21:37] <orangeglo> is there anyway to hook up an xbox to my laptop, and have the laptop act as a router since it is currently connected to the internet using a wifi connection?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> !ics | orangeglo
[21:37] <term_oldcomp1> say 1440?
[21:37] <jokus> Well ... the thing is that I have done it before .. but not with Ubuntu.
[21:37] <kjele> !info plymouth-theme | alexxio
[21:38] <Kerberos[Heimdal> not what i meant
[21:38] <Kerberos[Heimdal> and i guess not what zosky meant either
[21:38] <Kerberos[Heimdal> ATM line ftw
[21:38] <kjele> !info plymouth-theme-solar | alexxio
[21:38] <Kerberos[Heimdal> NB: also uses modem
[21:38] <drizzt_> that's rubbish, firestarter hasn't been developed since 2007
[21:38] <killermask> hay
[21:38] <stefg> !ics | orangeglo
[21:38] <Johnm> rename u5iwo tobias_fb
[21:38] <Johnm> save
[21:38] <jhaig> stefg: Well, I could do that (and in fact I have done it on one other machine already) but I shouldn't need to - it has just arbitrarily stopped working and I am trying to find out why.  In the syslog file there are lines like "(eth0): now unmanaged" and "(eth0): deactivation device (reason: 37)".  Any idea what these mean?
[21:39] <VCoolio> term_oldcomp1: 1280x1024 is as high as I know the number, check the web for more; 1280x1024 with 256 colors: vga=775
[21:39] <drizzt_> I believe uuntu is the only distro which have no ICS utility
[21:39] <alexxio> thanks kjele ;)
[21:39] <jokus> Nevertheless .. can I try once more ..
[21:39] <stefg> jhaig: that ususally means that network manager (once again) bugged out. what ubuntu version are we talking about ?
[21:39] <term_oldcomp1> VCoolio:  I'll check. thanks.   just got done fixing a problem with apt doing a "segment faulty tree" routine past two days so go figure this starts
[21:40] <jhaig> stefg: 10:04
[21:40] <alexxio> and for starting grub bootsplash theme? how can i see why it doens't go?
[21:40] <drizzt_> does anyoen known what this GDM logs mean?
[21:40] <VCoolio> drizzt_: gdm is the login manager
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> alexxio: do you use an nvidia video card?
[21:41] <alexxio> no, ati
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> alexxio: if plymouth is't showing or uses a poor res, use this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[21:41] <drizzt_> thanks cap fs
[21:42] <ZenWalker> hi
[21:42] <ZenWalker> can i copy on tty and paste it on x window ?
[21:42] <stefg> jhaig: although my experience with nm on >9.10 wasn't too bad i usally nuked it at the slightest sign of a problem before. i either chose wicd or did my network conf manually when i neede a fixed IP box anyway
[21:42] <DexterF> ZenWalker: nope. once you switch the buffer is cleared
[21:43] <jokus> Wanted to boot Ubuntu from windows bootloader
[21:43] <jokus> Tried the manual partition option( win XP preinstalled), made ext4 partition from the unallocated space, made it primary, mounted the /, mounted another partition for swap and proceeded, chose advanced option and installed grub on the newly made ext4, completed the installation.Tried bootpart and dd method to write to NTLDR , but cannot login to ubuntu from bootmenu, gives a cursor blinking blank screen.
[21:43] <ZenWalker> ok thanks
[21:43] <DexterF> ZenWalker: I've been hoping for such a feature since.. mh.. 1998 or so :) say, your nick sounds familiar - former #slackware resident per chance?
[21:44] <blackstar> On Lucid, when i crate a file owned by root only, i can still delete the file using nautilus, i beleve if anyone try it they will understand what i mean, But this only happing whiting my home folder, how can i preventhis from happing
[21:44] <blackstar> ?
[21:44] <kassah> blackstar, this is an intended permissions attribute
[21:45] <ZenWalker> no :P
[21:45] <kjele> blackstar: As I told you create a folder with root permission then the file that you want to be root in there
[21:45] <drizzt_> blackstar, which group owns it?
[21:45] <paissad> guys, i'm trying to upgrade karmic to lucid, i did aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade && aptitude dist-upgrade ... but no upgrade is done !
[21:45] <cha0s> Hey y'all I have a question. I downloaded the source for LMMS, but it wouldn't compile without a modification (It saeems a library has been updated and perhaps the patches haven't been in sync?) Where would I go to report this, LMMS's page? Some Ubuntu place?
[21:45] <FunnyMan3596> Any idea why the "locale" command would hang?
[21:45] <kassah> blackstar, as long as the person has write permissions to the folder it is in... the file will be deletable regardless of owner
[21:45] <levander> On the 10.04 download page, it says 64 bit is not recommended for daily desktop use.  Why is that?
[21:45] <paissad> how should i proceed mates ?
[21:45] <stefg> jhaig: the race for faster boot times may have something to do with it. i have fuuny effects on some (slower) boxes with lucid and i suspect that it is a matter of boot scripts not running in the right order.... parallelization is hell of a complex task
[21:46] <blackstar> kjele sorry i miss that
[21:46] <levander> paissad: paste the output of your command to a pastebin somewhere, what's the error message?
[21:46] <jokus> Guess Wubi is the only option left as rocket mentioned ..
[21:46] <ZenMasta> if I download an ubuntu iso and the hash verifies.... and then I burn that iso but when I run the check disk and the hash doesnt verify then the problem is my cd not the iso right?
[21:46] <kassah> blackstar in order to prevent them from deleting the file, you would have to restrict their ability to write their home directory.
[21:47] <kassah> blackstar, that being said, they can't change the contents of the file.. just delete it
[21:47] <stefg> ZenMasta: seems so, yeah
[21:47] <switchgirl> umm how can i sort this external hard drive out? every time i try to mount it it shows this error message:    "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdg1 is already mounted on /media/ntfs mount failed"
[21:47] <deco> is it safe to remove synaptic package manager and software center if i'm not gonna use it ? i like usig the terminal more
[21:47] <bstarek> hello everybody
[21:47] <blackstar> oooh ok thanks kassah
[21:47] <kjele> kassah: You can make a root owned folder then put the root owned file in there. Since the folde is not empty you cannot delete it. And since you do not own the root folder you cannot delete the file.
[21:48] <ZenMasta> anyone ever try the usb install?
[21:48] <kassah> blackstar, see what kjele said...
[21:48] <deco> ZenMasta: i have with unetbooting
[21:48] <levander> blackstar: If you don't want to remove write privileges from a user's home directory, you could make this file you don't want them to delete a link to the original file that's somewhere else, in a directory they don't have permission to write to.  Then, they can delete the link, but not the original file.  And, you just have to copy it back over for them if they delete the link.
[21:48] <blackstar> yeah i'm trying right now thanks
[21:48] <VCoolio> switchgirl: apparently it is already mounted; don't the contents show up in /media/ntfs ?
[21:49] <switchgirl> VCoolio, nothing shown
[21:49] <stefg> deco: both are just frontends to dpkg, so if you don't need them... why not get reid of them
[21:49] <deco> stefg: okay thanks !
[21:49] <switchgirl> umount: /media/ntfs mount disagrees with the fstab
[21:49] <blackstar> thank people i will do that, this help me a lot,
[21:49] <levander> Anybody knows why on ubuntu.com it says that 64 bit installs aren't recommended for daily usage on the desktop?
[21:49] <rlameiro> anyone can explain me how to add a shortcut to switch the keyboard layout on Lucid?
[21:50] <deco> levander: where exactly does it say that ?
[21:50] <VCoolio> switchgirl: what's the fstab line and what's the line you try to mount with? and you can put a # in front of the fstab line, then umount
[21:50] <jhaig> stefg: So you think I should just set a static ip address, or is there some way to fix nm?  Is there at least a way to try running it manually not it has started up?
[21:51] <ZenMasta> deco how does it work, can you just plug it into any pc that supports booting from usb or is it meant to work with just one pc (only same hardware)
[21:51] <carlosgaldino> Hi, is there a way to see all file associations like there's in windows? I want to change some file associations but instead of clicking in every file of a different type I want to go and see all the file types that have an association with a program.
[21:51] <deco> ZenMasta: yeah just plug it in , reboot. ...
[21:51] <levander> deco: right on the download page, under step 1, you can pick 32 or 64 bit.  Right next to the checkbox where you can pick 64 bit:  http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[21:51] <ZenMasta> deco but i could use this on my laptop or my friends computer?
[21:51] <deco> ZenMasta: if it doesn't boot with the usb , you have to enable that feature in the bios
[21:51] <deco> ZenMasta: yes
[21:51] <ZenMasta> okay cool
[21:52] <deco> levander: okay let me cehck that
[21:52] <deco> check*
[21:52] <ZenMasta> hoping I can use this feature so I can then clone it to a hard drive since I can't install from cd
[21:52] <killermask> i got an error on the terminal when i type airodump-ng eth1 ,,, there is somthing that i have to enable the   "RFMON"
[21:53] <deco> levander: oh okay , well some software like skype is not available for 64bit yet
[21:53] <Pyus> like ergodex ..
[21:53] <deco> levander: that's why it's not really recommended yet for daily desktop use
[21:53] <killermask> i got an error on the terminal when i type airodump-ng eth1 ,,, there is somthing that i have to enable the   "RFMON" ,, guys plz help
[21:53] <levander> deco: What's the status of Flash on 64 bit?  Adobe is still fumbling around, saying they'll port it?  They haven't done that yet have they?
[21:54] <deco> levander: they have already
[21:54] <levander> great!
[21:54] <jrib> levander: a while ago they released it as beta...
[21:54] <kjele> deco: You can get skype with 64bit support
[21:54] <deco> levander: it's been ported to linux for a long time now
[21:54] <stefg> jhaig: i didn't get the beginnig of your question (came in late). but waht i understood is that you some sort of multiuser machine in a larger network (using ldap for authentication). this is actually beyond the scope of network-manager which has constantly been a source of trouble in earlier ubuntu versions. Since you might need ssh access to this box anyway it might come handy to give it a...
[21:54] <stefg> ...fixed IP. In this context nm is jsut bloat and unneeded complexity
[21:54] <levander> jrib: Beta?  How slow is it?  I haven't been impressed with Adobe software in the best, then you put the word Beta in front of it...
[21:54] <levander> in the past**
[21:55] <killermask> i got an error on the terminal when i type airodump-ng eth1 ,,, there is somthing that i have to enable the   "RFMON"
[21:55] <jrib> levander: do not expect anything that will change your opinion
[21:55] <jhaig> stefg: OK, so I'll just uninstall and use static ip, then.
[21:55] <paissad> guys, i'm trying to upgrade karmic to lucid, i did aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade && aptitude dist-upgrade ... but no upgrade is done !
[21:55] <paissad> http://pastebin.com/QBVNd9aq
[21:55] <xckpd7> can someone tell me the downsides of install firefox from the official site? I know there were definitely some downsides but I forget them
[21:55] <paissad> that's the output of aptitude dist-upgrade --> http://pastebin.com/QBVNd9aq
[21:56] <bastidrazor> paissad: sudo do-release-upgrade   is the proper command
 plz czn any one help me ,,,, i got an error on the terminal when i type airodump-ng eth1 ,,, there is somthing that i have to enable the   "RFMON"
[21:56] <Kevin`> hi
[21:56] <oCean_> killermask: stop repeating?
[21:56] <Kevin`> is there a common program that will view multi-page tiff images (faxes)?
[21:56] <Alloeishus> killer you shouldnt try cracking wifi passphrases
[21:56] <switchgirl> VCoolio, i don't have a text mount for it its graphical
[21:56] <orangeglo> has anyone here had any luck connecting an xbox to their laptop using ubuntu?
[21:56] <levander> Can I run the 32 bit version of flash on a 64 bit Ubuntu install?  Would that be better than running the 64 bit version of Flash?
[21:56] <killermask> coz no one is answering
[21:56] <Maximillion> does ubuntu have software pre-installed to burn an ISO image? if not, what software do I need?
[21:56] <killermask> !!!!!!!!!
[21:56] <Kevin`> Maximillion: yes, it does
[21:57] <bastidrazor> Maximillion: brasero will... although i prefer k3b
[21:57] <Alloeishus> killermask its easier to just pay for the internet, plus its not a felony
[21:57] <Maximillion> ok, thanks
[21:57] <stefg> xckpd7: don't bypass the package manager... you'll miss updates (or at least make it harder to stay up-to-date). and you'll not have gnome integration and other ubuntu integration features (e.g. font-rendering ... but that's broken at every release anyway >:-) )
[21:58] <killermask> this is not my mean ??? man dont be crazy
[21:58] <Kevin`> killermask: I know how to make that work. do you know of a common application that views faxes? :)
[21:58] <VCoolio> switchgirl: try to umount it first, then start the thing you use to mount it with from terminal and read error output, or try 'sudo mount /dev/sdg1 /media/ntfs -t ntfs-3g -o user,rw'
 nupp
[21:58] <Kevin`> :(
 put plz i need help
[21:59] <killermask> but
[21:59] <Kevin`> killermask: rfmon = promiscuous mode. set it before running the program if your using some generic configuration
[21:59] <Kevin`> or rather, monitor mode
[22:00] <killermask> how can i ,,, sorry but am new linux user
[22:00] <NucWin_> hey guys im having a little trouble formatting my fakeraid anyone know what i need todo to format?
[22:00] <rvn> i have a 1tb disk in my comp - all of which was a single ntfs for win7 - and i am resizing it so 300gb is a new ubuntu 64 install. about 630gb was used on the partition. it has been going for maybe 30-40 minutes now and is still on 0% - it IS making noise and appearing to be doing things. how long should i be patient before assuming something went wonky and giving up?
[22:00] <Alloeishus> kevin his wifi doesnt inject anyway... hes had this issue for days and looking for a way out
[22:00] <NucWin_> i managed to create the partitions just fine
[22:00] <Kevin`> killermask: iwconfig eth1 mode monitor
[22:00] <Kevin`> Alloeishus: what he has?
[22:01] <FunnyMan3596> :0
[22:01] <FunnyMan3596> Bah.
[22:01] <Alloeishus> '/msg kevin i forgot what card he has but I looked it up and it cannot inject packets making it impossible to crack wep
[22:01] <stefg> NucWin_: are you using some bios-faked raid (dmraid) or mdadm (soft raid on kernel level) ?
[22:01] <oCean_> Kevin`: there's kfax (kde) and a program called mgetty-viewfax in repositories
[22:01] <rvn> Alloeishus: fail.
[22:01] <deco> lol
[22:01] <Alloeishus> oops :)
[22:01] <Kevin`> Alloeishus: you can crack wep without injecting packets
[22:01]  * MartinObviously :D
[22:01] <rvn> apostrophes are evil
[22:02] <rvn> watch out for em
[22:02] <NucWin_> stefg dmair and bios faked
[22:02] <Typh> "Nautilus cannot handle "sftp" locations." erm.. since when?
[22:02] <NucWin_> *dmraid
[22:02] <rvn> anybody got a comment on my problem?
[22:02] <allnewryan1> hey i'm having problems with installation, its telling me to define root partition, i have it installed on a computer running windows xp
[22:02] <cody__> im trying to enable IP forwarding but it says i do not have permission to edit the required files. how can i edit these files?
[22:02] <stefg> NucWin_: you should abandon that.... better use mdadm
[22:03] <bastidrazor> cody__: what files and how are you trying to edit them?
[22:03] <KaOSoFt> Is there a utility for Ubuntu to check the monitor's colors?
[22:03] <rvn> allnewryan1: using Wubi?
[22:03] <allnewryan1> yeah
[22:03] <Guest70651> hola
[22:03] <mrfree> hi all
[22:03] <mrfree> I can't remove a package... http://pastebin.com/eyagU6ij
[22:03] <mrfree> any idea?
 this error shows up " Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[22:03] <allnewryan1> its already installed its just completing the installation
[22:03] <killermask>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument.
[22:03] <NucWin_> stefg reason i want to use dmraid is because windows 7 is also using the bios raid
[22:03] <Kevin`> killermask: what chipset and driver are you using
[22:04] <rvn> allnewryan1: i dont use wubi, but i assume it means what host partition, i.e. c:\, d:\
[22:04] <rvn> allnewryan1: r u installing it as an app or as a dualboot
[22:04] <cody__> bastidrazor: im trying to do /edit/systctl.conf and add in the lines net.ipv4.conf.default.forward=1, net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding=1
[22:04] <killermask> broadcom 802.11
[22:04] <oCean_> !sudo | cody__
 broadcom 802.11
[22:04] <Alloeishus> kevin: cant he just use airmon dev start?
[22:04] <bastidrazor> cody__: in a terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[22:05] <stefg> Nuc_Win_: i see. so what does 'sudo fdisk -l' tell you about your disk array? do you see one or two disks?
[22:05] <Kevin`> killermask: what driver are you using for it
[22:06] <NucWin_> two in fdisk
[22:06] <NucWin_> stefg see the right partitions in /dev/mapper though
[22:07] <cody__> bastidrazor: i accessed the edit page, and alot of text came up. it told me to add in some lines, where should i add these lines in?? i can link the webpage if you want
 brodcom STA wirless driver ,, info "These package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, andBCM4322-based hardware."
[22:07] <stefg> NucWin_: ok. so what happens if you try to 'mkfs' a file system on the /dev/mapper/device?
[22:08] <drizzt_> how to remove meracity??
[22:08] <deco> drizzt_: metacity ?
[22:08] <drizzt_> yeap
[22:08] <deco> drizzt_: sudo apt-get purge metacity ?
[22:08] <deco> or
[22:08] <deco> sudo apt-get remove metacity ?
[22:08] <imprint> Ever since I upgraded to Ubuntu 10 I can no longer update my computer, my mouse does not function properly, I get message, could not grab your mouse, there may be a malicious client eavsdroping on your system
[22:08] <drizzt_> deco, LOL
[22:08] <bastidrazor> cody__: add it at the bottom. put each on a new line
[22:09] <drizzt_> i'm serious, how to remove it?
[22:09] <imprint> all in all, the upgrade seems to have ruined my computer, any suggestions?
[22:09] <deco> drizzt_: i'm serious
[22:09] <cody__> bastidrazor: do i need to restart my comp for the changes to work?
[22:09] <drizzt_> deco, it would take down gnome-sessino
[22:10] <stefg> imprint: restore the backup you made before upgrading (you have one, right?)
[22:10] <deco> drizzt_: well then just switch to a different window manager
[22:10] <deco> drizzt_: i don't know why you wanna remove metacity
  ????
[22:10] <imprint> no, I simply clicked upgrade when I was being updated
[22:10] <drizzt_> because I want unixway dammit, i don't want all nailed together]
[22:10] <deco> drizzt_: lol use a different distor then
[22:11] <imprint> How do you restore backup
[22:11] <drizzt_> bah
[22:11] <bastidrazor> cody__: no, restart networking ..  in a terminal type sudo service networking restart
[22:11] <NucWin_> stefg format seemed to work out
[22:11] <NucWin_> *ok
[22:11] <cody__> bastidrazor: it said restart: unknown instance
[22:11] <drizzt_> are there some login manaagers for X? xdm is too primitive and gdm crashes
[22:11] <imprint> How can I go back to Ubuntu 9
[22:12] <drizzt_> imprint, format, reinstall
[22:12] <bastidrazor> cody__: doesn't the howto page you're using explain how to make things take effect?
[22:12] <imprint> after I make back up of data
[22:12] <NucWin_> not sure how to format the swap partition manually though
[22:12] <imprint> right
[22:12] <drizzt_> i'm not sure if ubuntu 9 supports ext4
[22:13] <rvn> is it normal for partition resizing on a huge drive (1tb, 700/300 split for the new partition sizes) to take an inordinately long amount of time on 0%?
[22:13] <drizzt_> still I need some login manager to replace that piece of sh*t XDM
[22:13] <cody__> bastidrazor: well i followed the steps that related to my issue, and it said to just restart the computer for things to work but they arent now. so i scrolled down a bit and i saw IP forwarding, and that was a problem that my xbox was saying was happening, "your router isnt assigning an IP address to the xbox"
[22:13] <stefg> NucWin_: so there you go. but i still would have used the raw partitions for a striped lvm volume group.... much more flexible than any dmraid or even mdadm sof-raid ...
[22:13] <rvn> drizzt_: gdm? kdm?
[22:13] <rvn> drizzt_: btw, good books.. :D
[22:14] <drizzt_> rvn, gdm doen;t work
[22:14] <rvn> drizzt_: why not
[22:14] <levander> Does anyone know where the MD5 sums are for the Ubuntu ISO downloads?
[22:14] <brontosaurusrexw> where is a boot log located?
[22:14] <bastidrazor> cody__: then have your router assign an ip to your xbox.
[22:14] <drizzt_> i would try kdm only if it doesn't bring in half of KDE
[22:14] <rvn> is it normal for partition resizing on a huge drive (1tb, 700/300 split for the new partition sizes) to take an inordinately long amount of time on 0%?
[22:14] <VCoolio> rvn: slim, or just startx with .xinitrc
[22:14] <jrib> !md5sum | levander
[22:14] <VCoolio> drizzt_: slim, or just startx with .xinitrc
[22:14] <cody__> bastidrazor: im not sure how to do that
[22:14] <rvn> VCoolio: i believe that's intended for drizzt_
[22:14] <NucWin_> stefg how do i manually format the swap partition so that the installer doesnt try todo it for me? doesnt seem to be a mkfs.swap :(
[22:14] <jrib> !md5sums | levander
[22:14] <VCoolio> rvn: exactly, sorry
[22:15] <levander> thanks guys
[22:15] <drizzt_> GDM is crashing constantly
[22:15] <bastidrazor> cody__: get your router model and version and google how to set a static ip for it.
[22:15] <stefg> NucWin_: don't worry. the installer will format swap anyway..
[22:15] <drizzt_> nope, Kdm won't do
[22:16] <drizzt_> it want 200MB of stuff
[22:16] <rvn> drizzt_: try slim
[22:16] <plouffe> does ubuntu/linux offer 64bit versions for 64bit Intel processors? or is it only for 64AMD?
[22:16] <bastidrazor> plouffe: amd64 is for both intel and amd
[22:16] <deco> plouffe: same thing
[22:16] <jrib> plouffe: amd64 version is also for intel processors, that's just the name of the architecture
[22:16] <stefg> !64bit
[22:16] <rvn> plouffe: amd64 is compatible with emt64
[22:16] <deco> plouffe: reasos for the name is because amd got 64bit support first
[22:16] <plouffe> bastidrazor, deco thanks
[22:16] <deco> reason*
[22:16] <deco> np :)
[22:17] <ZenMasta> I just tried creating a usb drive according to the steps here http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download However, when I boot to the usb drive it just asks if I want to install, if I choose to install it asks me to insert the cdrom
[22:17] <rvn> ZenMasta: wow, that's odd. does the live mode work?
[22:17] <Saggamawuat> its just called amd64 'cause amd developed 64 bit
[22:17] <Neo> quit
[22:18] <NucWin_> stefg should the normal installer work? ive just got error "The installer needs to remove operating system files from the install target, but was unable to do so.  The install cannot continue."
[22:18] <rvn> ZenMasta: if it does, install from within that.
[22:18] <ZenMasta> rvn there is no live option because it is the server iso
[22:18] <rvn> ZenMasta: if not, i dunno
[22:18] <rvn> ZenMasta: ah
[22:18] <rvn> ZenMasta: shouldn't it allow you to boot to a live command line then though
[22:18] <xomp> so I got this file php-5.3.0.tar.bz2 and I'm trying to untar it with tar -xvjf php-5.3.0.tar.bz2 and it's not working. Any suggestions?
[22:19] <ZenMasta> ZenMasta this is my first time trying the usb option... I need to do somethinb because I can't install from a traditional cd
[22:19] <jrib> xomp: are you just wanting to install php5?
[22:19] <Alloeishus> eth1 cannot be a wifi device, true?
[22:19] <stefg> NucWin_: are you trying to use the desktop installer on a raid array? Won't work. you need the alternate installer for raid/lvm setups
[22:19] <xomp> jrib, no, trying to compile it as fpm constantly fails
[22:19] <rvn> xomp: you're on ubuntu use apt or synaptic if you're trying to install, otherwise idunno
[22:20] <jrib> xomp: is there a bug report?
[22:20] <ZenMasta> rvn there is an "advanced options" item in the list when I boot up but i have'nt tried that
[22:20] <NucWin_> ahhh so i need alternate cd?
[22:20] <xomp> jrib, I have no idea, my fastcgi keeps randomly crashing in lucid and I can't be arsed to constantly log into my ubuntu VPS to spawn it again to get everything working.
[22:20] <rvn> ZenMasta: u might wanna look at that, but i must admit ur out of my comfort zone with ubuntu advice, so my help stops here
[22:20] <drizzt_> i think linux would be better without sexual & toilet humor
[22:20] <PwrSurge> hi, i'm having problems with my laptop locking up ever since I upgraded to lucid
[22:20] <rvn> ZenMasta: i've installed server from cd and desktop from usb, but never server from usb
[22:21] <rvn> ZenMasta: also, did you try unetbootin to make ur usb stick/
[22:21] <rvn> ZenMasta: that's what i use - i'm not sure what those instructions say
[22:21] <NucWin_> bbs
[22:21] <jrib> xomp: compiling php sounds like a maintenance headache
[22:21] <stefg> NucWin_: and you should really take th chance while you reinstall to use lvm instead of this clumsy bios fake raid facility designed for stupd OS's.... linux can do smarter
[22:21] <PwrSurge> when I browse certain websites with Firefox suddenly everything freezes except the mouse
[22:21] <PwrSurge> the mouse cursor moves but i can't click on anything
[22:21] <xomp> jrib, it's my only option, that or create a cronjob to check if fastcgi is running if not then start it
[22:21] <PwrSurge> even CTRL+ALT+DEL does not work
[22:22] <oDesk> Hello, i need help from USA resident to register sipgate.com account, it's SMS verification .. who would help ?
[22:22] <jrib> xomp: or figure out while it is crashing
[22:22] <rvn> PwrSurge: need to be more specific - what websites, or if that's a secret or whatever, what kind of content - embedded video, flash etc.?
[22:22] <jrib> why even
[22:22] <PwrSurge> nor CTRL F1, etc.. to go on another terminal
[22:22] <Alloeishus> PwrSurge: stop lookin at porn
[22:22] <PwrSurge> even CTRL+Backspace
[22:22] <rvn> ctrl+alt+f1
[22:22] <rvn> u mean
[22:22] <Daekdroom> Crtl Alt + F1?
[22:22] <rvn> and ctrl+alt+backspace
[22:22] <PwrSurge> yeah, sorry
[22:22] <drizzt_> PwrSurge, it's called Adobe Flash
[22:22] <rvn> u need the alt
[22:22] <FloodBot1> rvn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <PwrSurge> that's what I meant
[22:23] <xomp> jrib, heh I would if I knew how mate, but I can't seem to get good help in #nginx or #php regarding it because everyone assumes I'm some sort of interwebz master lol
[22:23] <PwrSurge> the website in particular is http://www.windmobile.ca
[22:23] <stefg> !lvm | NucWin_
[22:23] <PwrSurge> i already tried disabling flash plugin but it still froze
[22:23] <rvn> big flash applet in the middle
[22:23] <rvn> what flash r u using?
[22:23] <rvn> latest 10 from their site?
[22:23] <PwrSurge> yes
[22:23] <PwrSurge> 64 bit
[22:23] <rvn> try the 32-bit one with a 32-bit browser if that's an option, the 64-bit one is new and perhaps buggy
[22:24] <PwrSurge> I even tried the 2.6.33 kernel
[22:24] <rvn> PwrSurge: alternatively u can try gnash
[22:24] <PwrSurge> and it did not help in thish issue
[22:24] <PwrSurge> this
[22:24] <PwrSurge> but it still froze even with flash plugin disabled
[22:24] <fluvvell> Ctrl+Alt+Sysreq+K fully restarts your desktop, but you loose anything you had open
[22:25] <NucWin> stefg ive tried reading through abit of the last link but didnt seem to make much sens
[22:25] <rvn> PwrSurge: have you tried re-downloading and reinstalling the flash plugin? does it work on other sites (i.e., youtube)?
[22:25] <ZenMasta> rvn i just checked but the advanced option only was to recover a broken  system :'(
[22:25] <rvn> ZenMasta: did you make ur bootable usb with "unetbootin"?
[22:25] <Saggamawuat> pwr, i use ff on lynx 64 bit ... works well... are you sure your flash is up2date?
[22:25] <stefg> NucWin_: which part? the raid or the lvm part ? :-)
[22:25] <NucWin> stefg the problem is i also want windows to run off the same array
[22:26] <jrib> xomp: you may think compiling is the easy solution, but here's what usually happens and why I avoid it: 1) it stops crashing.  This is good, file a bug report and tell the maintainer that.  Remember you need to watch for security updates yourself now, update-manager won't do it for you anymore and recompile yourself when you need to.  You want to go back to the pakage as soon as possible so you should
[22:26] <jrib> actively try to sort out the issue.  The people on the bug tracker will tell you what they need from you but they can't fix the issue if they don't know about it.  2) it doesn't stop crashing  This is bad.
[22:26] <NucWin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto <-- tried to read that
[22:26] <bastidrazor> fluvvell: no need for the ctrl on that one.
[22:26] <ZenMasta> rvn I dont know what that is I just followed the instructions on the download site and used the universal usb installer
[22:26] <Dragonwrath> bookz
[22:26] <jrib> !compile > xomp
[22:26] <Dragonwrath> bookz
[22:26] <rvn> ZenMasta: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ <--- use this instead, it's what i use and it works every time no problems - does everything on it's own too
[22:26] <kop> and PulseAudio still sux
[22:26] <rvn> kop: tru dat
[22:27] <fluvvell> bastidrazor, huh. Always used it, killer number of fingers!
[22:27] <drizzt_> kop, i think we discussed that already
[22:27] <xomp> jrib, ok, how would I do the bug thing you mention?
[22:27] <bastidrazor> fluvvell: :)
[22:27] <ikus060> Hi All, I want to know what is the current support for ATI Radeon cards. Mostly about video playback. I'm having trouble with the open source driver (radeon) and fglrx. In case of radeon, the video play isn't of the right color, in case of fglrx is doesn't display the video at all ...
[22:27] <kop> drizzt_, just a reminder
[22:27] <janisozaur> is there any tablet diagnostic tool (I'd like to know what kind of data is passed from the device)?
[22:27] <rvn> ikus060: have u tried the official ati drivers from their site? i use those and they work great
[22:27] <ikus060> Notice : I'm running Karmic
[22:27] <rvn> ikus060: they provide linux support like nvidia does, i dunno if u knew that
[22:28] <fluvvell> bastidrazor, I seem to recall having found a few of those on a gnome system key page somewhere. (maybe not gnome)
[22:28] <ikus060> rvn : this is the fglrx driver, yes I know
[22:28] <Dizkonnekted> ikus060, send me a pm, i think i have the just the links your for
[22:28] <jrib> xomp: bugs.ubuntu.com is where you can view existing bugs and there will be instructions on how to create a new one.  If you want help with how to report and what to report, #ubuntu-bugs is very friendly
[22:28] <rvn> Dizkonnekted: can u send me those too - i am installing on a comp with an ati card right now and they might be useful to me
[22:28] <oldtopman> ikus060: i'm assuming that you tried "sudo jockey-gtk"
[22:28] <stefg> NucWin: you can still let windows use the dmraid... but if the kernel can see through the scam and still sees individual disks/partitions you can use the unused space for lvm physical volumes and install your system on a striped logical volume (which is smarter than using plain raid-0, but has the same performance)
[22:28] <xomp> jrib, thanks
[22:29] <drizzt_> i use radeon driver and it's so hitty that cannot run 2001 year games lol /spit
[22:29] <Dizkonnekted> rvn, sure no problem, just send me a pm pls
[22:29] <ZenMasta> rvn thanks for the link can't hurt to try something new since nothing else is workin
[22:30] <rvn> ZenMasta: i love that tool, have had nothing but positive experience with it, so it ought to work for ya
[22:30] <ikus060> oldtopman : sure, I did. I manage to install both of them. It's not a matter of getting them working. My question is about the video playback of the driver. Both of them doesn't seams to work. So I'm wondering which one should actually work.
[22:30] <kop> drizzt_, why bother w/ radeon at all , ATI has been nothing but trouble for *nix usrs for years
[22:30] <ZenMasta> rvn awe, ubuntu server isn't in the distribution list :(
[22:30] <rvn> no worries
[22:30] <rvn> just use the iso u downloaded
[22:30] <rvn> it works with any linux
[22:30] <drizzt_> i think guys bahing opensource friver target cutting edge cards and dont guve a sjit for klegacy hardware
[22:30] <ZenMasta> oh okay I see the options below
[22:30] <rvn> :)
[22:30] <rvn> great tool eh? :D
[22:30] <Computer> why is Ubuntu 64-bit "Not reccommended for daily desktop usage" ?
[22:30] <ZenMasta> rvn the first part is asking to download. looks neat
[22:31] <drizzt_> kop, because ATI is good cheap cards
[22:31] <NucWin> stefg unfortunatlly that would involve moving the 1TB of data off the computer lol maybe will look into it though if i ever change my stripes (currently 64k os & 256k data)
[22:31] <kop> drizzt_, you're half right , guess which one ? heh
[22:32] <stefg> NucWin: so how comes that you reformat then.... you'll have to move the date off first, too?
[22:32] <xomp> jrib, seems #ubuntu-bugs isn't the appropriate place lol, I give up. Thanks though for all your help.
[22:32] <kop> drizzt_, I will conditionally agree but that comparison requires the use of a M$ OS
[22:33] <NucWin> stefg thats why i have the data stripe only needed to format the first stripe :)
[22:33] <rvn> wow, the new ubuntu installer (once ur past the user prompts) is quite nice graphically
[22:33] <stefg> NucWin_ : pastebin me a 'sudo fdisk -l' output plz
[22:33] <NucWin> cant atm back in windows burning alt cd :)
[22:34] <rvn> nucwin: you could give him a diskpart xD
[22:34] <foo_fighter> does anyone know any screenlet to gnome for scrolling rss?
[22:34] <dr4c4n> after fresh install lucid, dvd drive umounts randomly, anyone else have this problem?
[22:34] <stefg> NucWin: are we talking morrored (raid1) or striped (raid0) here? if you have raid 0 you can't reformat anything without data loss....
[22:34] <oldtopman> dr4c4n i just installed lynx want me to test
[22:34] <stefg> *mirrored
[22:35] <NucWin> raid0
[22:35] <dr4c4n> oldtopman: please,
[22:35] <oldtopman> what kind of dvd: data or video
[22:35] <oldtopman> and how long is randomly
[22:35] <dr4c4n> oldtopman: I've just repartitioned and installed from the iso xubuntu
[22:35] <stefg> NucWin: raid 0 means: lose one disk, lose all your data... it's not redundant
[22:36] <NucWin> yups i know
[22:36] <nicoco> hi ! I can't copy files > 4 gb on a ext2 usb hdd because of this error : "error during slice operation : file too big"
[22:36] <dr4c4n> dvd is a commercial movie
[22:36] <oldtopman> mee too (Xubuntu FTW)
[22:36] <oldtopman> alright gimme a min
[22:36] <dr4c4n> random time has varied anywhere from 20 minutes to 45
[22:36] <NucWin> i backup my photos and stuff i code in perl but rest i just take the risk
[22:36] <dr4c4n> and only mounts dvd upon boot
[22:36] <drizzt_> nicoco, you ust format ext2 with an option for large files
[22:36] <xangua> nicoco: that's not an issue, it's a fact
[22:36] <stefg> NucWin: so you can't reformat anything without moving your data off the disk then
[22:37] <nicoco> xangua: will ext3 work ? what fs should I use for my external usb hdd ?
[22:37] <NucWin> i created two bios stripes over the two disks
[22:37] <bsmith093> i r4restored grub2 after installing windows xp (dual boot) and the grub file menu.lst does not exist HELP!
[22:37] <NucWin> so can format the first stripe without affecting the second
[22:37] <BalSak> hi guys. something got borked. now when I do an update/upgrade, I get prompted to do a "apt-get -f install", which want to remove most software from my system & prompts me: "You are about to do something potentially harmful." "To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'"
[22:37] <oldtopman> wrong kind
[22:37] <oldtopman> brb
[22:37] <NucWin> brb rebooting to alt cd
[22:38] <drizzt_> BalSak, it's called broken packeges
[22:38] <bsmith093> i booted into ubuntu and i never saw an option to boot into windows. the grub menu never appeared
[22:38] <BalSak> drizzt_: thnx, how do I address it?
[22:38] <drizzt_> BalSak, set your repository to old one
[22:38] <BalSak> k
[22:38] <nicoco> xangua: I thought fat32 had issue with large files but ext2 was ok am I wrong ?
[22:39] <stefg> NucWin: so you just want to reformat the linux stripe, right?
[22:39] <drizzt_> nicoco, ext2 is old as mammuth sh*t it doesn't support anything like this
[22:39] <stefg> NucWin: so you just want to reformat the linux *array*, right?
[22:39] <oldtopman> dr4c4n the princess bride works for me
[22:39] <drizzt_> drizzt_, there was no 1GB drives until 95
[22:39] <nicoco> xangua: oh ok ill go for ext3 then...
[22:40] <dr4c4n> oldtopman: yes the dvd works,
[22:40] <nicoco> or ext4 ? I don't understand anything about filesystems what should I choose for my usb hdd ?
[22:41] <stefg> nicoco: how big is it?
[22:41] <nicoco> 500gb
[22:41] <drizzt_> nicoco, use NTFS
[22:41] <nicoco> ntfs, seriously ?
[22:41] <stefg> nicoco: and what are you going to store on it?
[22:41] <nicoco> I don't use windows
[22:41] <noelferreira> how can i downgrade DIA to version 0.96?
[22:41] <nicoco> mostly large files
[22:41] <thejandroman> !digest
[22:41] <stefg> nicoco: xfs then
[22:41] <drizzt_> nicoco, so what? it support large files and not changing version with each year
[22:41] <JAMMAN2110> Does anyone know where I can find a list (online) of all the packages installed "out of the box" with Server 9.10?
[22:42] <Saggamawuat> i used the fstab to mount my win partition when booting ubuntu but i cant let rythmbox access the music i stored there and get an error message >>Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library... how can i fix that?
[22:42] <brontosaurusrex> ext2 does have a nice size limit, seems to be 16 gigs? anyway there are free drivers for win as well - to support ext2, so i did that once or twice
[22:42] <pyrophelia> i've got a system with a lot of serial ATA backplanes.  How do I determine which backplane is giving me problems from the syslog when all it says is ata9.01 exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4010000 action 0xf....
[22:42] <nicoco> why would ntfs or xfs be better than ext4 ?
[22:43] <stefg> nicoco: but that'll mean that you can never take that disk to a Mac or windows box
[22:43] <pyrophelia> I can always just pull a drive out and see which ata number barks at me, but that would cause more problems than it fixes
[22:44] <dorgan> if i want to get get back a value to use in useradd for the --password argument   how would i do that is there a command line tool to get back the encrypted value?
[22:44] <stefg> nicoco: xfs is very good for large files.... ext4 isn't really mature, ntfs is out of question... slow on linux
[22:44] <mikel> Hey all - I'm having some difficulty with sudo-ldap. Most LDAP functionality is working fine, users can login and so on, but they can't sudo at all - auth.log reports '3 incorrect password attempts' rather than 'you're not allowed sucka', but the passwords work just fine for the purpose of logging in via ssh in the first place.
[22:44] <pyrophelia> stefg, jfs > xfs
[22:44] <nicoco> stefg: thanks for the advices
[22:44] <pyrophelia> stefg, you need several TB of swap to check TBs of XFS
[22:44] <FSPKwon> Hey
[22:44] <nicoco> I don't plan on moving it from my computer so I'll choose xfs... or jfs ?
[22:45] <NucWin> stefg seems i have got it installing now :) i will look into using softraid instead of dmraid next time i need to make changes to biosraid config :) thanks for your help dude :)
[22:45] <mikel> btrfs is getting close to viable as a replacement for xfs. I wouldn't use it in a production environment yet but it's rock-solid at home so far
[22:45] <stefg> nicoco, pyrophelia : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388
[22:45] <noelferreira> how can i downgrade DIA to version 0.96?
[22:46] <n8w> anyone familiar with pm-utils?
[22:46] <LHoT10820> O.o; Registered?
[22:46] <pyrophelia> stefg, i'm aware of the benchmarks, but if your data isn't safe what's the point of a FS than can spread across several hundred TBs
[22:46] <FSPKwon> GUys anyone knoew of the Linksys WUSB54G v4?
[22:47] <pyrophelia> mikel, how is the speed?
[22:47] <LHoT10820> ...lol
[22:47] <LHoT10820> Okay, identified.
[22:47] <LHoT10820> Anyways.
[22:47] <LHoT10820> I'm having a bunch of graphical glitches on 10.4
[22:47] <dorgan> anyone?
[22:47] <nicoco> I'll go for xfs as it seems to work without installing any other package
[22:48] <test34> I started having sound problems with Skype on 10.04...
[22:48] <nicoco> thanks guys
[22:48] <stefg> pyrophelia: considering data integrity i'd trust xfs 10x more than ext4 ..... and jfs is a somewhat exotic choice on linux, i actaully know noone who is using it
[22:49]  * LHoT10820 glances at the user count in the channel, falls over.
[22:49] <test34> Any good open source alternative to Skype?
[22:49] <Dougie_> I was curious if anyone knows if the Geforce GT330M is now supported in 10.04? I tried 9.10 when I first got the notebook but couldn't get them to work with hardware acceleration or anything. I searched the forums and google and can just find old info.
[22:50] <acicula> dual graphics support is a bit iffy still afaik, can you disable one of the gpu's in the bios?
[22:50] <LHoT10820> So, can anyone help with minor graphical issues?
[22:50] <pyrophelia> stefg, jfs is also kinda dead.  But it's easier to run FS checks on JFS than it is on XFS
[22:50] <LHoT10820> I'm not too sure where to begin.
[22:51] <Dougie_> It's a single gpu....it's a notebook card
[22:51] <tertl3> begin at the end
[22:51] <Kingsy101> ok I really need some help.. is it possible to get back filenames from file000.CHK files?
[22:51] <drizzt_> Kingsy101, no
[22:51] <Kingsy101> my entire USB filesystem has turned into file soup
[22:51] <MichRT> Hey everyone
[22:51] <mikel> pyrophelia: I haven't been putting it under particularly heavy load but it's performance seems pretty comparable to reiserfs which I was using before
[22:51] <ComputerKid> its quiet now!
[22:52] <eeg> hi
[22:52] <Kingsy101> drizzt_ - is it possible to get file extensions back?
[22:52] <eeg> i have a problem with getting untarred executables to run
[22:52] <drizzt_> i think they are not even really files
[22:52] <stefg> pyrophelia: then we should agree on ext3... hey it's an USB disk anyway. the bottleneck is the interface, not the filesystem. and the more i think of it the more i think ext3 is right... xfs might not like unplugging the disk in the middle of a write
[22:52] <Kingsy101> drizzt_ - they are files cos some of them are showing as images
[22:52] <valentino_tuga> Hi. I've installed ubuntu through wubi and I'd like to know if it's possible to access my windows files inside ubuntu
[22:53] <drizzt_> but you can try to guess the filetype with hex editor
[22:53] <MichRT> Is it possible to get the compiz cube from 9.10 into 10.04?
[22:55] <drizzt_> Kingsy101, or the file utility
[22:55] <NativeAngels> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a sunfire v100
[22:55] <stefg> NativeAngels: rather ask taht on #ubuntu-server
[22:56] <g0nz0|Boston> In Ubuntu when attempting GUI administrative tasks, it requests a sudo password instead of the root password. Does anyone have any information about how that was accomplished?
[22:57] <mikel> valentino_tuga: have a look in System->Administration->Disk Utility
[22:57] <drizzt_> g0nz0|Boston, each shortcut was made to use gksudo
[22:57] <g0nz0|Boston> drizzt_, make sense, thanks for the pointer
[22:58] <valentino_tuga> thanks mikel
[22:58] <ZenMasta> rvn you still there
[22:59] <docdoc> hi
[23:00] <valentino_tuga> mikel, I found the directory. it's mounted on /host. thanks again
[23:00] <drizzt_> btw how to make beagle index my files?
[23:00] <Jordan_U> bsmith093: Just run "sudo update-grub"
[23:00] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | bsmith093
[23:01] <_dan_> hello, how can i revert to the old update-manager behaviour which shows me an icon in the systray when updates are available?
[23:03] <Doug_> Ok, now that I installed a real client lol... Anyone have any idea of full Geforce GT330M support in 10.04?
[23:03] <ZenMasta> anyone here familiar with unetbootin? I can't get it to work
[23:04] <noelferreira> how can i downgrade DIA to version 0.96?
[23:05] <docdoc> i'm having trouble sending mail via smtp from thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS> (ubuntu 9.10). if i run a log from thunderbird my account authenticates ok - the last line on the log is "SMTP Send: MAIL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>SIZE=1961". The emails never actually get sent
[23:05] <trism> _dan_: /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch in gconf I believe, set it to false and the icons will come back
[23:06] <Ebuntu> !info unetbootin
[23:07] <drizzt_> docdoc, it seems your server doesn;t like you
[23:07] <geo> hi gyes
[23:07] <noelferreira> how can i downgrade DIA to version 0.96?
[23:07] <drizzt_> drizzt_, what happents when you sending mail manually?
[23:08] <docdoc> if i telnet into my smtp server and send mail manually there is no problem at all
[23:08] <drizzt_> docdoc, oh I'm afraid you'll hav eto submit the bug in thinderbird
[23:09] <drizzt_> problem is, that bugs in mozzilla rpoducts can be oipened for 10 years straight
[23:09] <cathats> mmmmmm suck my hard cock
[23:10] <drizzt_> !ops | cathats
[23:10] <docdoc> i don't have problems sending from thunderbird on my windoze pc, and intermittently TB on my ubuntu machine sends ok! it's so random i can't figure it out!
[23:10] <drizzt_> docdoc, maybe your server has outages?
[23:11] <drizzt_> docdoc, or it's certain recipioents you cannot send to?
[23:12] <wahib_> Hi !
[23:12] <docdoc> no, it's a very reliable server, and I can send from my windows machine without any problems ever
[23:12] <docdoc> smtp.gmx.net
[23:12] <drizzt_> docdoc, try nightbuilt thunderbird
[23:13] <drizzt_> i don't believe moronic maintainers to mess with complex software
[23:13] <drizzt_> trust*
[23:13] <docdoc> and i've tried sending plain via port 25, and SSL via 465 (netcat says 465 is present)
[23:14] <drizzt_> docdoc, why you don't want night thunderbird build to test?
[23:15] <docdoc> i may well try that and see what happens
[23:15] <drizzt_> to maintainers are going people whio's too stupid to be programmers or just have a good work bacause having ton of frre time
[23:16] <ikonia> enogh
[23:16] <ikonia> enough
[23:16] <junteck> hi there !
[23:16] <junteck> i need some help with running 10.04 on my usb
[23:16] <junteck> anyone able to give me a run down on how to do it ?
[23:16] <alexi5> is there any advantage in using ubuntu over debian for a database server (postgresql)
[23:16] <iantlopp> how do you format a flash drive?
[23:17] <ikonia> alexi5: just personal prefernce
[23:17] <drizzt_> alexi5, only commercial support i beliwve
[23:17] <iantlopp> alexi5: I can only offer the reason I switched... drivers and software in general are kept more up to date on ubuntu than Debian...
[23:17] <junteck> already done it with unetbootin
[23:17] <alexi5> ok thanks
[23:17] <docdoc> thanks guys
[23:18] <junteck> anybody can help ?
[23:19] <_dan_> hello, is there a way to disable the new appindicator features to get the old behaviour back?
[23:19] <drizzt_> _dan_, roll back to 10.04
[23:19] <drizzt_> 9.10*
[23:19] <iantlopp> how would one format a flash drive, either via cli or gui?
[23:19] <_dan_> drizzt_ hmpf :O
[23:20] <iantlopp> nevermind... heh.
[23:20] <dr4c4n> brb cracking my case, so to speak
[23:20] <iantlopp> disk util
[23:20] <iantlopp> but what would be the proper way via cli?
[23:20] <junteck> Hi guys, i have a problem with booting from my usb for ubuntu 10.04 - i'm getting no DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!
[23:20] <junteck> Hi guys, i have a problem with booting from my usb for ubuntu 10.04 - i'm getting no DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! - anyone kind enough to point me in the right direction ?
[23:20] <ikonia>  junteck please don't repeat your question that quickly
[23:20] <junteck> pardon me
[23:21] <SeveredCross> Hey everyone, running Ubuntu Lucid LiveCD here, testing some VPN stuff, finding it impossible to maintain both a VPN connection and the WiFi connection via NetworkManager. Surely it can't be impossible to have both connected at the same time without everything exploding.
[23:21] <drizzt_> iantlopp, mkfs it was in my times
[23:22] <iantlopp> drizzt: thanks
[23:23] <Jordan_U> junteck: It's a known bug with unetbootin. If you want a system that you can keep up to date and use normally you may want to do a standard install rather than unetbootin anyway.
[23:23] <onexx> hi
[23:23] <onexx> hi
[23:24] <junteck> Jordan_U - thanks for the reply. any way around that ?
[23:24] <onexx> hello
[23:24] <Jordan_U> junteck: Remove the previous unetbootin files before running unetbootin again.
[23:24] <wahib_> hello onexx
[23:24] <junteck> Jordan_U: meaning to say, delete the file and download a new one ?
[23:25] <Vonnegut> ubuntu
[23:26] <eeg> hi can anyone please help me on getting these executables to run
[23:26] <drizzt_> eeg, ?
[23:26] <eeg> i untarred it in /usr/erpss
[23:26] <eeg> thanks drizzt
[23:26] <eeg> eeg@EEG:/usr/erpss/bin$ file ecdbl
[23:26] <eeg> ecdbl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, not stripped
[23:26] <eeg> thats what it shows
[23:27] <eeg> the permission says this
[23:27] <eeg> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  39102 2000-12-20 15:33 ecdbl*
[23:27] <FloodBot1> eeg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <eeg> ooh oops
[23:27] <eeg> so when i try to run it
[23:27] <noelferreira> how can i downgrade DIA to version 0.96?
[23:27] <eeg> it says no such file or directory
[23:28] <eeg> drizzt_, do you know what may be the problem
[23:29] <drizzt_> noelferreira, add karmic repo
[23:29] <drizzt_> eeg, no I don't
[23:29] <eeg> oh oaky thanks
[23:29] <Grubulous> hi
[23:29] <supermagnum> hello, does anyone here know howfdi files work?
[23:29] <noelferreira> drizzt_, i have a python2.5 dependency i can't install
[23:29] <supermagnum> i cant get my toucsreen to work.
[23:30] <supermagnum> i have tried to use the advice form this page: http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F577257&ei=iYgFTLvgLpaUOMHEmYYF&usg=AFQjCNEy6kMuUuWuUHJNDqfM7upUj9pATQ
[23:30] <supermagnum> i run kubunut 9.10
[23:30] <forkup> how are you trying to run it
[23:31] <blue_anna> is there a keyboard applet that shows the flag instead of an abbreviation?
[23:31] <ZAIKO> hola alguna chica?
[23:31] <Grubulous> So, I'm polling a shared network folder for changes but how do I tell if a file is completely loaded into the shared folder or the transfer is still in progress?
[23:31] <maco> ZAIKO: 1. english only 2. this channel is not for picking up chicas
[23:31] <ZenMasta> anyone here familiar with unetbootin? I can't get it to work
[23:31] <supermagnum> it is detected in HAL, and cat displays it too
[23:32] <SeveredCross> Hmm, I think I need to file a bug against NetworkManager.
[23:32] <dupondje> I upgraded my cpu in my computer, and now things segfault at random... Any idea what could be the cause ?
[23:32] <omo_> irc://nml625icn2hc5s6y.onion
[23:32] <t3chmastr> Hello
[23:32] <Vigo> blue_anna: gDesklets or a bunch of other widgets that can possibly work that out.
[23:32] <Ebuntu> hi
[23:32] <SeveredCross> dupondje: Heat?
[23:32] <Ebuntu>
[23:33] <dupondje> SeveredCross: CPU Temperature:        +38.0°C  (high = +90.0°C, crit = +125.0°C)
[23:33] <dupondje> nope
[23:33] <Typos_King> !es | ZAIKO
[23:33] <Ebuntu> !info gDesklets
[23:33] <blue_anna> Vigo: I want an applet though, not a screenlet
[23:33] <blue_anna> Vigo: one of the icon things on the top bar
[23:34] <Vigo> blue_anna: Yes, I understand, are you using Gnome?
[23:34] <falafell> anyone know why my ' system monitor' displays different free ram memory then 'top' or 'free' in terminal?
[23:34] <linxeh> whats the best option for hosting git repositories? the normal git daemon and git-web or something else ?
[23:34] <Ebuntu> hmm
[23:34] <blue_anna> Vigo: I am -- gDesklet will run applets in my applet dock?
[23:34] <linxeh> eg gitosis ?
[23:34] <chrislsp> anyone use matlab on linux here?
[23:35] <Ebuntu> !info matlab
[23:35] <Ebuntu> D:
[23:35] <Vigo> blue_anna: looking now, I think they are dockable?
[23:35] <chrislsp> so no way to run matlab??
[23:35] <kzman> is it possible to see the text behind X Windows System?
[23:35] <Ebuntu> you can probably run it on wine
[23:35] <falafell> kzman, if you find out, let me know xD
[23:35] <Ebuntu> if its a windows app
[23:35] <chrislsp> mm ok i will try
[23:36] <Vigo> blue_anna: https://launchpad.net/gdesklets
[23:36] <plouffe> chrislsp, have you had a look at Octave?
[23:36] <chrislsp> plouffe no
[23:36] <plouffe> chrislsp, it's a Matlab clone, can run most Matlab scripts
[23:36] <chrislsp> a friend of mine needs it and i try to find a solution for him
[23:37] <chrislsp> plouffe thx for the info i will try to see if this was helpfull
[23:37] <Vigo> blue_anna: and here:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:38] <blue_anna> Vigo: reading while I install to try it out .. but form the looks of that first page it doesnt
[23:38] <ComputerKid> killer roombas
[23:38] <IMTheNachoMan> how do I give the id "www-data" permission to read the contents of the home folder of another user
[23:39] <IMTheNachoMan> rather, a sub-dir in the home folder of another user
[23:39] <IMTheNachoMan> read and write
[23:39] <IMTheNachoMan> i know i can add the other users group to the group of www-data, but that would mean entire home directory, i just want one directory
[23:40] <Dantix> hi all, I need to use a crafted kernel to get my edubook working. I've installed a regular karmic 9.10 with 2.6.31-14-generic kernel and the edubook boots fine. When I changed by the kernel I need, it fails saying: mount: mount point /sys/kernel/security does not exist ... Obviously this kernel lacks of something the regular one have and provides the securityfs. Are there a way to avoid this error without change the kernel back?
[23:40] <Vigo> blue_anna: Yes, there are so many widgets/apps/programs that are for such things is mind boggling,
[23:40] <blue_anna> Vigo: it crashes on launch :S
[23:40] <Jordan_U> Dantix: You're probably missing apparmor
[23:41] <blue_anna> geez my system's only a month or so old, it cant be that out of synch
[23:41] <Dantix> Jordan_U: apparmor is something "uninstallable"
[23:41] <Dantix> ?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> Dantix: Apparmor is an alternative to selinux that is not in the mainline kernel.
[23:42] <sshc> How do I download libsdl?
[23:43] <Dantix> Jordan_U: as selinux is it possible to disable it?
[23:43] <sshc> There's a problem where the mouse is much too slow in quake games
[23:43] <Vigo> blue_anna: Have you tried Compiz? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1414548&highlight=desktop+customize
[23:43] <sshc> It didn't exist before Ubuntu was upgraded to 10.04
[23:44] <sshc> How do I check if Compiz is running?
[23:44] <sshc> I want to make sure it's not running
[23:44] <Jordan_U> Dantix: What is your goal? Why are you installing an alternate kernel, and from where?
[23:45] <iantlopp> does anyone know of any software that can capture the input of a USB HID device and convert that input into customizable keystrokes?
[23:45] <ChaoticXSinZ> hey Is there a specific reason that we have gcc-4.1 but not gcc-4.2 in the lucid repos?
[23:47] <Dantix> Jordan_U: I've bought for test an edubook netbook from chinese provider and they only give me linux support with a special kernel that recognises sound and network card.
[23:47] <tripelb> Please answer or refer me to a better group for this question. Thanks. -- I have an iso file from a movie dvd I bought. I want to see the files inside it and see if there are multiple copies of the movie (in different formats perhaps) and I'd like to be able to save a smaller piece of the iso on a disk for safekeeping. Thanks. (Oh yea, I creamed the original with my heel. It still looks good. It's the Japanese disk not the Disney one.)
[23:47] <tripelb> Danfix, lucky you!
[23:48] <blue_anna> Vigo: Compiz doesnt run on powerpc architecture :(
[23:48] <plouffe> tripelb, can you right click open with archive manager
[23:48] <ZenMasta> anyone here familiar with unetbootin? I can't get it to work
[23:49] <Jordan_U> Dantix: Have you checked to see if Ubuntu 10.04 supports your sound and network cards without modification?
[23:49] <Ebuntu> !info untetbootin
[23:49] <Ebuntu> oops
[23:49] <ChaoticXSinZ> Jordan_U, livecd
[23:49] <Riiiis> hi, i've just downloaded ubuntu 10.04 32bit and are trying to install it. but when i get to step 4, Prepare partitions, it doesnt show me any devices at all...
[23:50] <Ebuntu> !info unetbootin
[23:50] <Vigo> blue_anna: Ermm, uhmm, gconf? or AWN?
[23:50] <ionut> does anyonw knows an alternative an alternative for the application write room (used on mac) ?
[23:50] <ZenMasta> i know what it is, telling me what it is doesn't help
[23:50] <Dantix> Jordan_U: chinese people does not support 10.04
[23:51] <Vigo> blue_anna:> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470972&highlight=desktop+customize <:maybe
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Dantix: It doesn't sound like they support 9.10 very well either, or you wouldn't be here :)
[23:51] <bricky> can I do any chdisk tools from linux on a windows parition
[23:52] <timposey> tripelb:  the only thing I could think of is burn the iso then look at the burned cd or dvd and rip from that.   I don't know anyway to look inside however I did see something the other day to mount an iso file, that would probably do it.
[23:52] <blue_anna> ÇVigo I'm happy with the applet manager that comes standard .. I just want a different keyboard applet htan the gnome standard one
[23:52] <Riiiis> Any idea why my ubuntu installer doesnt show me any harddrive devices ?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Dantix: At least with stock 10.04 (if it works with your hardware) you will get better support from the community.
[23:52] <blue_anna> Vigo: xfc4 has one where you can see the flag for the locale you are switching too, that would be much prettier :)
[23:52] <DIL> Riiiis, power
[23:53] <falafell> anyone know why my ' system monitor' displays different free ram memory then 'top' or 'free' in terminal?
[23:53] <blue_anna> Vigo: but I can't find the binary -- xfce4-xkb-plugin, which you find online, is *not* the binary anymore
[23:53] <stephans> question: has anyone successfully set up xrdp on ubuntu?
[23:53] <blue_anna> Vigo: but I'd take anything with a flag really :)
[23:53] <Riiiis> DIL its on, i can see it in the live system and boot from the partitions already on it
[23:53] <urthmover> bricky: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php  is about as close as you are gonna get.  I suggest using Bart-PE or vmware
[23:53] <DIL> Riiiis, k
[23:53] <tripelb> How can I read the files in an ISO on a hard drive. It's built into linux as I understand.
[23:53] <Dantix> Jordan_U: maybe you're right, but I want to go step by step. The edubook works fine with 8.04, trying now with 9.1 and later 10..
[23:54] <learner7> is there a handy script I can use to generate a new menu for GRUB?
[23:54] <Jordan_U> learner7: update-grub
[23:54] <learner7> Jordan_U, does it need root?
[23:54] <Jordan_U> !iso | learner7
[23:54] <Jordan_U> learner7: Yes.
[23:54] <plouffe> tripelb, I just looked at one of my iso's with archive manager. Very simple
[23:55] <bricky> urthmover: okay thanks
[23:55] <Vigo> blue_anna: I am familiar with that, LXDE also has one liken to that, I suggest gconf or Main Menu or Synaptic Install Xfce, but one can fetch the particular program that would or should make that function.
[23:55] <tripelb> plouffe, is it that thing for learner7 that ubottu spit out?
[23:55] <blue_anna> Vigo: I did install xfce4 :) I just dont know the name of the binary for that applet :P
[23:55] <sod> learner7, for a simple way to peek inside, in ubuntu right click on it and pick "open with archive manager"
[23:55] <blue_anna> Vigo: if I switch to xfce, I see it
[23:56] <sod> learner7, or "extract here" and it will extract the contents as if it where a zip file
[23:56] <sshc> How do I determine which driver I'm using for  ATI Radeon X1650 Pro 512mb?
[23:56] <plouffe> tripelb, you right click, then "Open with Archive Manager"
[23:56] <Dantix> Jordan_U: anyway, your advice help me to start investigate the solution, if there are one... thanks
[23:56] <bricky> also is there a crash log I can look out my computer overheats and I would like more info
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Dantix: You're welcome.
[23:56] <bricky> look at*
[23:57] <Vigo> blue_anna: Yes, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1321457&highlight=xfce
[23:57] <ionut> does anyonw knows an alternative an alternative for the application write room (used on mac) ?
[23:57] <bricky> I need to know why my computer reaches 94 degrees celcius
[23:58] <urthmover> bricky: 'cat /var/messages/log'  might help
[23:58] <sod> bricky, laptop or desktop, if laptop what type?
[23:58] <bricky> Thanks
[23:58] <urthmover> bricky: yw
[23:58] <bricky> Laptop, HP dv800
[23:58] <Aspidzent> join #category5
[23:58] <bricky> 8000*
[23:59] <Vigo> blue_anna: That looks like the easiest and most stable way, add xfce to Gnome or go pure Xfce, choice is a wonderful thing.
[23:59] <eNTRO> hi #ubuntu
[23:59] <urthmover> bricky: less /var/log/messages   is probably more useful than using cat
[23:59] <valentino_tuga> i changed the display image of the boot and session. How do I go back to the original ubuntu theme?
[23:59] <pietro10> hi