[00:41] <cshadowrun> ogra you still about?
[00:41] <cshadowrun> i got that virtualbox image up
[00:41] <cshadowrun> and it starts, but no GUI
[00:41] <cshadowrun> complains about alot of modprobe stuff
[00:41] <cshadowrun> and then gives me a login.
[00:42] <ogra> hmm
[00:43] <cshadowrun> whats the normal way of testing it? i could try doing it the normal way on my laptop
[00:43] <cshadowrun> that would be a workaround :P
[00:45] <cshadowrun> apparently my processor doesn't support hardware virtualisation, so there goes that idea
[00:46] <ogra> you can just use qemu
[00:46] <ogra> but it will be very slow
[00:46] <cshadowrun> thats ok i guess
[00:46] <ogra> kvm is just extending qemu with the CPU extensions
[00:47] <cshadowrun> if i can do it without KVM i can try it on my mainpc
[00:47] <cshadowrun> it's a c2q 2.4ghz with 4gb ram so that might speed things up :p
[00:47] <cshadowrun> so how do i run it in qemu?
[00:47] <cshadowrun> i have the qcow2 and ubuntu.kvm
[00:49] <ogra> i think the ubuntu kvm is a script that executes qemu with the right options
[00:49] <ogra> look into it
[00:49] <cshadowrun> hmm
[00:50] <cshadowrun> it runs kvm, not qemu
[00:50] <cshadowrun> kvm -soundhw all -m 256 -hda root.qcow2 "$@"
[00:52] <cshadowrun> i tried running it with qemu root.qcow2
[00:53] <cshadowrun> got the same set of errors as i did with virtualbox
[00:53] <cshadowrun> but this time i got a "blank" x session
[00:53] <cshadowrun> (The cursor is a black X, and the background is that grey crosshair type thing)
[00:53] <cshadowrun> oh wait nice there it is!
[01:04] <cshadowrun> lol you really meant it'd be slow :P
[01:05] <cshadowrun> i tried neverball and got like 0.1FPS, lol
[01:06] <ogra> heh
[01:06] <ogra> yeah that needs HW support
[01:11] <CShadowRun> hehe
[06:03] <persia> CShadowRun: You might want to look the kqemu-source package: it contains a kernel module that significantly increases qemu speed (although it's still slower than KVM).  I used it on one of my machines that didn't have kvm support with good results.
[06:06] <CShadowRun> sounds intresting
[06:07] <CShadowRun> installing it :)
[06:07] <persia> CShadowRun: Note that you'll need to compile it locally: the precompiled modules aren't available.  I use module-assistant for that, but you may find you prefer a different method.
[06:07] <CShadowRun> oh
[06:08] <CShadowRun> how would i compile it?
[06:08] <CShadowRun> i just installed the package from synaptic
[06:09] <CShadowRun> ah it installed a tar.gz
[06:09] <CShadowRun> configure make and install?
[06:10] <persia> I think the easiest way is to install module-assistant.
[06:10] <CShadowRun> already got it
[06:11] <persia> IF that doesn't do it automatically (I've forgotten), you'll want to look at /usr/share/doc/kqemu-source/README (or something like that)
[06:11] <persia> There should be an ncurses guided activity to handle the compilation and installation of the modules package.
[06:11] <persia> (and yes, this should be easier)
[06:13] <CShadowRun> yup its doing that now :)
[06:13] <CShadowRun> there we go, firing up ubuntu mobile now :)
[06:16] <CShadowRun> nah still as slow as before lol
[06:16] <CShadowRun> and now i have to sleep, it's 6:15am here :p
[06:24] <persia> Sleep well then :)
[08:06] <rredd4> is there a hardware support list for ubuntu mid?
[08:09] <persia> rredd4: None has been compiled.  It's known to work at least on the Samsung Q1U and the Kohjinsha SR series.  It ought work on anything with an Intel A100, A110, or Atom processor, and may well work on anything i586 or better.
[08:10] <persia> Mind you, for the latter case, you may need to manually inject an alternate kernel: it depends on the hardware.
[08:10] <rredd4> iphone 3g?
[08:10] <persia> For best results, you'll want a 6" or 7" touchscreen.
[08:11] <persia> No, that has an ARM processor.  Ubuntu Mobile only targets lpia right now, and the MID release has had issues described even for some models of the Eee.
[08:11] <rredd4> ok, thanks
[08:12] <rredd4> its good to hear that ubuntu is supporting mid devices tho@
[08:14] <persia> Yeah, although it will be even nicer when more devices that meet the requirements are on the market :)
[09:06] <asac> persia: is lool still on leave?
[09:07] <persia> asac: I'm going to say "yes" because I've not seen him about, but I've no specific information in my current memory store.
[09:09] <asac> persia: i think i need to push xulrunner-1.9 to PPA and midbrowser as well, is that correct?
[09:09] <asac> e.g. is midbrowser not startable atm?
[09:09] <persia> asac: You want to do an SRU for mobile.archive.ubuntu.com?
[09:09] <asac> not sure. we had a security update which invalidates the patches we have in mobile
[09:09] <persia> Yeah, it probably isn't, although I've not an up-to-date hardy MID installation running right now.
[09:10] <StevenK> asac: Merge them, we need the security update
[09:10] <asac> persia: so the procedure is to push it to PPA and then let you know?
[09:11] <asac> i usually did that through lool, and last time there was confusion about the PPA purpose and so on.
[09:11] <persia> asac: Yes, for anything locally patched in the PPA.  I think we can inherit updates from the main repos for things not already in the PPA.
[09:13] <asac> persia: you think there might be someone who wants to learn how to do it ... to serve as a backup in the future?
[09:14] <persia> Last I knew there were three authorised archive-admins for m.a.u.c, and two of them are here now :)
[10:11] <terbo> hallo
[11:01] <lool> Hey
[11:01] <lool> asac: hola
[11:01] <lool> asac: I'm coming back tomorrow
[11:02] <lool> asac: BTW there's a holiday/leave calendar on canonicaladmin since we're both canonical staff  ;)
[11:03] <lool> asac: We still have an old xulrunner-1.9 in ppa and mobile archive, as well as special but older langpacks
[11:03] <lool> asac: AFAIK, langpacks and xulrunner still need corresponding updates to their forks in the ppa
[11:25] <asac> lool: i told kylem how to update them before i left for the summit
[11:25] <asac> (langpacks)
[11:26] <asac> lool: did i upload a new midbrowser?
[11:27] <asac> lool: anyway. now out for lunch
[14:40] <lool> asac: sorry, not a lot in front of the computer; I'm not sure kyleN is caring for the UME langpacks -- he might be more interested in pushing langpacks to customer specific builds
[14:40] <lool> asac: I didn't understand what you meant with new midbrowser
[14:40] <asac> lool: he said he wanted to do that
[14:40] <asac> lool: 0.3.0...
[14:40] <asac> final
[14:40] <lool> asac: Ok, we should ask him then; last time I checked the langpacks were out of date sadly
[14:40] <asac> its was is needed to run with latest xulrunner <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:41] <asac> the only change it has is that it opens up maxVersion in application.ini
[14:41] <lool> asac: Ok; so midbrowser and xulrunner-1.9 in ppa are ready?
[14:41] <lool> Right, I saw your moblin-commits@ diffs
[14:41] <lool> IIRC
[14:41] <asac> let me check . i am not sure about the current state - thats why i asked ;)
[14:41] <lool> s/diffs/diff
[14:42] <asac> lool: ok midbrowser was uploaded 25th Jul
[14:42] <asac> looks like thats the update
[14:42] <asac> lool: xulrunner isnt in the ppa
[14:42] <asac> so we need to do that
[14:42] <lool> xulrunner-1.9: version <IP_ADDRESS>+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>+ume1 in http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/ubuntu hardy main <= <IP_ADDRESS>+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main
[14:42] <asac> to get back the gconf backend feature
[14:43] <asac> lool: oops
[14:43] <lool> Looks like you have a newer version in -security of xulrunner-1.9 still (.3)
[14:43] <asac> well. ... that means i uploaded it
[14:43] <asac> but the update that jdstrand pushed to security broke it again
[14:43] <asac> ok
[14:43] <asac> its just a version bump then
[14:43] <asac> lool: why is there no xulrunner-1.9 on https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive ?
[14:44] <lool> asac: Could you upload xulrunner-1.9 to u-m ppa?  I'd ask $someone to test them or test them myself and promote to main mobile archive
[14:44] <asac> is it superseeded by the archive build?
[14:44] <lool> asac: There is one
[14:44] <asac> i dont see it https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive
[14:44] <asac> but most likely its just in a different state
[14:44] <lool> 1  → 50  of 65 results
[14:44] <lool> I see one published for hardy
[14:45] <lool> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/+archive/+index?start=50&batch=50
[14:47] <asac> lool: ok. midbrowser neds to be copied to the ubuntu-mobile archive too i think
[14:47] <asac> just remem ber that
[14:48] <lool> asac: You mean archive.mobile.u.c?
[14:48] <lool> asac: Sure, xulrunner and midbrowser at the same time
[14:48] <lool> asac: But I'll wait for your green light when you push .3+ume1
[14:50] <asac> lool: can you please test if the language packs still work with current midbrowser and xulrunner
[14:50] <asac> otherwise i will update all that are in ppa as well
[14:50] <asac> or wait
[14:50] <asac> can you just install midbrowser from ppa and tell me whats the version in application.ini
[14:54] <lool> asac: Ok; I can't do all that today, will try to do that tomorrow
[14:54]  * lool got to go now
[14:56] <asac> lool: i will look and take care for the langpacks. just take your last days off ;)
[17:30] <CShadowRun> i assume when the ARM version comes out the n810 is gonna be one of the first to be supported?
[17:36] <ogra> unlikely
[17:37] <ogra> n810 has tons of closed source HW in it ...
[17:37] <CShadowRun> :<


[12:47] <barfii33> hello is anyone around?
[12:47] <k1l> hi barfii33
[12:48] <barfii33> hi k1l, I was harassed by someone with a nick "ytrewsd". I couldnt even see his details, as his nick was not clickable.
[12:48] <barfii33> this happened yesterday
[12:49] <barfii33> on ubuntu channel
[12:49] <barfii33> he PMed me
[12:49] <bazhang> taken care of barfii33
[12:49] <bazhang> network wide issue
[12:50] <barfii33> bazhang, so he did the same to others in the channel? or you mean even on freenode?
[12:50] <bazhang> barfii33, PMs are not really channel only items, he could do it over the whole network, which he did
[12:51] <bazhang> he keeps swithing nicks
[12:51] <bazhang> and switching
[12:51] <bazhang>  /mode yournick +R to block unregged PM
[12:52] <bazhang>  /mode yournick +g to block all PMs, which you can then whitelist one by one as need be
[12:52] <bazhang> thanks for the report barfii33
[12:52] <barfii33> I see. thank you bazhang, for these pieces of information.
[12:54] <barfii33> sure
[12:54] <barfii33> the first command is just to block unannounced PMs, right?
[12:56] <bazhang> unregistered users
[12:59] <barfii33> ah, "unregged" means that, thank you
[13:00] <bazhang> yep
[13:01] <barfii33> bazhang, thank you for your kind help, have a fine day / night!
[13:02] <bazhang> :)
 thanks for your crap bazhang
[17:06] <bazhang> what
[17:06] <bazhang> he ignored all the helpers and asked 'is there any place I can get help?'
[17:06] <bazhang> I told him askubuntu.com
[18:43] <bazhang> @random bwhaha emacs HURD
[18:44] <bazhang> ikr
[20:15] <Unit193> marienz: Happy birthday. :D
[20:30] <genii> gah, HURD


[13:20] <philinux> Hi chrisccoulson
[13:25] <chrisccoulson> hi
[13:27] <philinux> chrisccoulson: Sorry to bother but have you seen my patch. Last post here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/602265
[13:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602265 in hundredpapercuts "Maverick: The defaut livecd and installed firefox bookmarks could do with updating." [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[13:27] <chrisccoulson> i haven't
[13:28] <philinux> chrisccoulson: could you take a look
[13:35] <philinux> chrisccoulson: thanks
[14:47] <s-fox> Can anyone else accept the patch, or does it have to be chrisccoulson ?
[14:53] <cousin_luigi> Hello.
[14:53] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: You aboud?
[14:53] <cousin_luigi> about*
[15:00] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: yep
[15:05] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: saw your reply for the flashplugin bug I reported. Is there any other test I can do?
[15:05] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: what version of the nvidia driver are you running? does it work properly in totem?
[15:05] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: if you downgrade to the previous flash, does it work?
[15:07] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: 280.13-0ubuntu6, yes
[15:07] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: and how would you do that, cleanly?
[15:07] <cousin_luigi> apt-pinning or something more clever?
[15:08] <philinux> Can anyone else except this patch > Last post here > https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/602265 or has it to be chris ccoulson
[15:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602265 in hundredpapercuts "Maverick: The defaut livecd and installed firefox bookmarks could do with updating." [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[15:11] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: you can manually download the debs for the previous version here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/<IP_ADDRESS>-0oneiric1/+build/3260791
[15:11] <mdeslaur> at the bottom of the page
[15:15] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: done, <IP_ADDRESS>-0oneiric1 works perfectly
[15:15] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: ok, well...that's a shame
[15:15] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: also the problem appears to be youtube-specific so far
[15:15] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: nothing we can do about it unfortunately
[15:16] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: do you think it could be related to my hardware, specifically?
[15:32] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: I don't know, sorry
[15:33] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: we can't do anything with flash besides ship the latest release they give us
[15:34] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: may I ask what graphics card you tried it with?
[15:36] <mdeslaur> cousin_luigi: Quadro NVS 140M that is in my Thinkpad T61
[15:37] <cousin_luigi> mdeslaur: thanks, trying ppa nvidia drivers now
[15:45] <cousin_luigi> no luck for me:(
[15:45] <cousin_luigi> bye
[20:43] <FernandoMiguel> boas


[00:41] <phillw> hi SergioMeneses
[00:42] <SergioMeneses> how are you phillw ?
[00:42] <SergioMeneses> i didnt see you in uds
[00:42] <phillw> SergioMeneses if you want to know... /j ##phillw
[07:32] <njin> balloons ? are you in other utc ?
[10:56] <vibhav> pitti: ping
[10:56] <pitti> hello vibhav
[10:57] <vibhav> pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~vibhavp/ubuntu/raring/libkal/add-autopkgtest/+merge/151920 :)
[10:57]  * pitti runs prepare-testbed
[10:57] <vibhav> pitti: Works perfectly with sh -ex
[10:58] <vibhav> pitti: What is the difference between the testbed and me using sh?
[10:58] <vibhav> (Except that it is minimal)
[10:59] <pitti> vibhav: please forward libfann and libg3d to Debian (it's really becoming hard for me to keep track of those, please just send them right away)
[10:59] <vibhav> I thought I had forwarded
[11:00]  * vibhav takes a ook at sent mail
[11:00] <vibhav> look*
[11:00] <pitti> vibhav: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=700911 is also asking for some updates
[11:00] <vibhav> ah, wrong recipient
[11:17] <vibhav> pitti: done \o/
[11:17]  * vibhav forwards libfann and libg3d
[11:25] <vibhav> pitti: Forwarded to the correct addresses
[11:25] <pitti> thanks
[11:26] <vibhav> pitti: I think we've completed 5 packages?
[11:28] <pitti> I lost count, but could be, yes
[11:29] <vibhav> yep
[11:30] <vibhav> pitti: Could you add an endorsement?
[11:30] <pitti> yes, queueing
[11:30] <vibhav> pitti: You can have a look here: http://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=Martin+Pitt&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Vibhav+Pant&sponsoree_search=name
[11:31] <vibhav> pitti: thanks :D
[12:06] <vibhav> pitti: libg3d autopkgtest is in Debian Sid now
[12:07] <vibhav> pitti: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=702424
[12:07] <vibhav> \o/
[16:34] <balloons> njin, hello hello
[16:37] <njin> ah, balloons, how are you '
[16:38] <njin> ?
[16:39] <njin> trying an upgrade from quantyal but it is tooking more than two hrs
[16:39] <njin> * quantal * taking
[16:40] <balloons> wha? why so long?
[16:40] <balloons> how are you upgrading?
[17:13] <njin> balloons, yes upgrading in Vbox with just one core
[17:13] <balloons> ahh
[17:15] <njin> balloons, ended just now, no bugs!
[17:16] <balloons> njin, nce
[17:16] <balloons> been following along with all the uds stuff?
[17:24] <njin> balloons, yes i follow your works, but at the moment I need one complete day to update everythings, I hope soon, I start studying pythion
[17:25] <balloons> njin, ahh.. fun! have you tried/seen manual tests project?
[17:25] <njin> nope, gimmi the link
[17:25] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests
[17:25] <njin> lol
[17:26] <balloons> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7DdlUSt_4
[17:26] <balloons> No python needed :-)
[17:27] <balloons> You already know how to do that stuff.. but it's much easier now, and there are other folks writing stuff up too :-)
[17:32] <njin> balloons, thanks, I'll start asap (not today), I've noted a change in the syntax, so we need to convert al the server test that I've already done ?
[17:38] <balloons> njin, everything is already converted my friend
[17:38] <balloons> when you branch the project you'll see everything is sorted.. all the existing tests (hardware, image, applications) are all in there
[17:44] <njin> ok
[17:47] <cprofitt> zyga: how do you think the session went today?
[17:48] <cprofitt> roadmr: thanks for agreeing to help with getting an easily deployable dev environment up.
[17:48] <roadmr> cprofitt: no prob :)
[17:49] <roadmr> cprofitt: it was a good session, I would have liked some more concrete work items, but if we look at it from the point of view of kickstarting things and getting to know each other, it was very good
[17:49] <zyga> cprofitt: better than before
[17:49] <zyga> cprofitt: I think there's a lot of variability to session quality
[17:50] <zyga> cprofitt: I've been to really great sessions and to some rather crappy sessions
[17:50] <zyga> cprofitt: as for our session
[17:50] <roadmr> zyga: I think the session leaders/ core participants influence session quality more than in-person
[17:50] <zyga> cprofitt: I think a lot of important points were raised
[17:50] <cprofitt> Yeah, I felt I did not do a good enough job of leading the session... a little weak on locking in work items
[17:50] <zyga> cprofitt: and actual actions are now what is the biggest factor for success
[17:51] <cprofitt> I agree.
[17:52] <roadmr> cprofitt: there was good active participation, I think we were all pretty focused, we didn't wander off too much
[17:52] <cprofitt> no, there was no wandering off yet -- which was good
[17:52] <roadmr> cprofitt: so there was no need for you to reel people in, that doesn't mean you didn't lead well :) it was fine I think
[17:52] <cprofitt> I do think there was a need for us to get to know each other
[17:53] <cprofitt> if this had been a physical UDS I would have wanted us to grab dinner one night
[17:53] <roadmr> cprofitt: yes, I wish we'd had Sergio around but well..
[17:53] <cprofitt> for now we just need to work on those items and develop regular communications channels
[17:53] <cprofitt> yes, having sergio around would have been really good as well.
[17:54] <cprofitt> Yeah, I never want to 'reel' people in.
[17:55] <SergioMeneses> sergio is me?
[17:55] <balloons> njin, have you used launchpad before?
[17:55] <cprofitt> yes, you are he
[17:56] <cprofitt> good to see you SergioMeneses
[17:56] <njin> balloons, just for the bugsquad needs
[17:56] <SergioMeneses> cprofitt, roadmr I see the video but I was pretty busy
[17:56] <balloons> if you get stuck anywhere let me know. basically, branch the code, add your stuff, then push it to a branch and submit a merge request. The video and wiki tutorial should help you out
[17:56] <roadmr> SergioMeneses: yes, no worries :)
[17:56] <balloons> but please ask questions if you don't get it..
[17:56] <njin> balloons, ok thanks
[17:57] <balloons> if you know of a need, open a bug for it
[17:57] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?field.tag=todo
[17:57] <balloons> we keep tag things that need done with 'todo'.. you can see what's open now and pick something to work on if you wish
[17:57] <roadmr> zyga: does plainbox work well on precise? or is it only quantal+ ?
[17:58] <njin> balloons, i picked up upgrade from ubiquity
[17:58] <njin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1133037
[17:58] <balloons> njin, awesome :-)
[17:59] <njin> but not for today, now I can't
[18:00] <zyga> roadmr: it works perfectly in precise, precise and quantal are virtually identical from our point of view
[18:00] <njin> now cooking time....
[18:01] <balloons> njin, yum! enjoy!
[18:01] <zyga> cprofitt: ++ on a dinner sprint :)
[18:03] <SergioMeneses> njin, balloons but there are few bugs now :)
[18:04] <roadmr> zyga: thanks yay! looking at preseed changes to install/run plainbox...
[18:04] <cprofitt> SergioMeneses: no worries on my end.
[18:05] <SergioMeneses> :)
[18:05] <SergioMeneses> btw where is phillw ?
[18:06] <zyga> roadmr: cool, thanks
[18:06] <zyga> roadmr: brendand was working on that
[18:06] <zyga> roadmr: you may want to check with him
[18:06] <zyga> roadmr: there are two considerations
[18:07] <roadmr> zyga: oh crap he was?
[18:07] <zyga> roadmr: running on a server via upstart vs running on a desktop via gnome-session and .desktop files that auto-start
[18:07] <zyga> roadmr: and the command to run, I'm almost sure we'll run a dedicated 'plainbox sru' command
[18:07] <zyga> roadmr: and give it all the arguments
[18:08] <zyga> roadmr: how do you currently pass that to checkbox, via environment or command line arguments?
[18:08] <zyga> roadmr: (and lets keep talking here)
[18:08] <roadmr> zyga: what about result submission? just && curl $whatever ?
[18:09] <zyga> roadmr: internal
[18:09] <zyga> roadmr: that's the whole command, even if we os.system("curl ...")
[18:09] <roadmr> zyga: ok. well most of the parameters for sru runs are set using debconf
[18:09] <zyga> roadmr: ok, what parameters affect us
[18:09] <roadmr> zyga: then there's a checkbox plugin that reads this and sets up the environment variables
[18:09] <zyga> roadmr: (we should add that to the whiteboard on the blueprint)
[18:09] <zyga> roadmr: right now we'll do the same
[18:10] <roadmr> zyga: yep, as long as we pass the proper environment to the jobs they should run ok
[18:10] <zyga> roadmr: so plainbox sru will do whatever checkbox did
[18:10] <roadmr> zyga: this is mainly used for the wireless testing and bluetooth stuff
[18:10] <zyga> roadmr: ohhh
[18:10] <zyga> roadmr: not that environment
[18:10] <zyga> roadmr: stuff for submission.xml, system id etc
[18:10] <roadmr> zyga: the one parameter we'd need to pass is the hardware_id
[18:10] <zyga> roadmr: will we have to do something to get stuff like wifi settings from debconf to pass that to jobs?
[18:10] <zyga> roadmr: or do jobs handle that internally?
[18:10] <roadmr> zyga: this is also set by debconf
[18:11] <zyga> roadmr: ok, could you add that to the whiteboard please
[18:11] <roadmr> zyga: no, the jobs expect environment variables to be set
[18:11] <roadmr> zyga: previously, we just put the variables in /etc/environment or something like that
[18:11] <zyga> roadmr: so plainbox actually has to load stuff from debconf and pass that, right?
[18:11] <roadmr> zyga: you'd have to ask brendand about why we changed to handling that with a plugin
[18:11] <zyga> brendand: ^^
[18:11] <zyga> roadmr: I'm trying to see what needs to be done in plainbox
[18:11] <zyga> roadmr: so far I see:
[18:11] <roadmr> zyga: yes, either that or we go back to the old way (tm), but brendand's input would be good for that
[18:12] <zyga> roadmr: 1) read hardware-id from debconf
[18:12] <zyga> roadmr: 2) perhaps read some stuff from debconf and export that to job environment
[18:12] <zyga> roadmr: 3) have a new 'plainbox sru' command
[18:12] <roadmr> zyga: the hardware_id can potentially be sent some other way, like a parameter when we create the upstart job, .desktop entry, or even something in /etc/default
[18:12] <roadmr> ok time to join a session
[18:12] <zyga> roadmr: yeah but I'd rather do the same to minimize confusion
[18:13] <zyga> roadmr: ok, talk to you later
[18:13] <cprofitt> roadmr zyga - did you see the suggestion in the UF session that checkbox/plainbox be able to complete 'tests' in the background as the machine was used?
[18:13] <roadmr> zyga: ok, teaching plainbox how to read checkbox debconf entries is also an option
[18:13] <zyga> cprofitt: nope
[18:14] <cprofitt> it was in the Etherpad and I missed it as well until I just re-read it
[18:14] <cprofitt> not sure how we could do that... I guess an opt-in
[18:14] <zyga> cprofitt: I think that's not worth doing, it's dangerous and subverting (a litte), the users can already run checkbox and move to another desktop if they want
[18:14] <zyga> cprofitt: I still think that revamping friendly entirely is better than doing some lifting on existing process
[18:14] <cprofitt> yes, I agree
[18:14] <roadmr> cprofitt: ugh, that both degrades the user's experience and may invalidate some of the tests :/
[18:14] <zyga> cprofitt: length of testing and lack of any personal connection is the killer
[18:15] <cprofitt> my only issue was allowing resume; which has been fixed
[18:15] <cprofitt> on the website I think it needs to be made more interactive -- building some social aspect
[18:15] <cprofitt> if UF is not usable it does not matter how the results are gathered
[18:16]  * zyga goes to a session now
[18:21] <brendand> roadmr, zyga - whoah guys, catch me up
[18:21] <roadmr> brendand: hehe :) two things
[18:21] <roadmr> brendand: 1) are you working on preseed changes for plainbox?
[18:22] <brendand> roadmr, yes - but i haven't got to the actual preseeds. i'm working on adding autostart to plainbox
[18:22] <roadmr> brendand: 2) can you explain why we switched from setting environment variables directly in /etc/profile to setting them with debconf and using the environment plugin in checkbox?
[18:23] <brendand> roadmr, because we had to add support for the tester configuring wifi and bluetooth settings via a config file
[18:24] <brendand> roadmr, and somehow debconf settings can mimic the config file changes (??)
[18:24] <brendand> roadmr, so using environment variables felt like a somewhat roundabout way of doing it
[18:25] <roadmr> brendand: oh yes, because you can set them in the config file as plugin-level variables
[18:25] <brendand> roadmr, you may need to track down cr3 and torture him for the real reason, i'm a bit hazy
[18:25] <brendand> roadmr, i know we made the change in montreal!
[18:25] <roadmr> brendand: ok, maybe I'll do that
[18:25] <brendand> roadmr, torture him real good, just for me :)
[18:25] <zyga> brendand, roadmr: I'm glad you can cooperate on that :-)
[18:26] <zyga> and that we talk in public
[18:26] <brendand> zyga, co-operate on torturing cr3?
[18:26] <roadmr> brendand: the thing is, plainbox needs to be able to pass the correct environment to the jobs, it can be made to read the debconf settings but we need a good reason to implement legacy behaviors I think
[18:27] <zyga> brendand: yes, that too :)
[18:27] <brendand> roadmr, right now the workaround is to just set the environment variables. they are referenced in the jobs
[18:28] <brendand> roadmr, really the rationale behind it was to avoid a tester having to set 8 environment variables in *every* new system
[18:28]  * brendand has to put some clothes on and make dinner :P
[18:28] <brendand> (what, tmi?)
[18:30] <balloons> lol brendand
[18:45] <cprofitt> brendand: clothes are required for dinner?
[18:45] <cprofitt> what... are you at a restaurant?
[18:48] <zyga> cprofitt: I guess it's best not to ask, you may not want to know the answer ;)
[18:48] <roadmr> cprofitt: well if he's making dinner, avoiding burns by boiling liquid is a good reason for clothes
[18:51] <cprofitt> lol
[18:51] <cprofitt> roadmr: good point... I have to consider that next time
[18:51] <cprofitt> :)
[18:51] <cprofitt> though I do have to say my three children would never actually let me cook without clothing
[19:40]  * zyga calls it a day
[19:42] <balloons> good night zyga
[19:49] <balloons> HELLO FREE WORLD
[20:13] <njin> balloons , do you confirm that the style in  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1458/info is right or is reversed ?
[20:14] <balloons> njin, yep.. let me show you the orginal source for that
[20:15] <balloons> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/image/1458_Install%20%28%28JeOS%20on%20KVM%29
[20:15] <balloons> see how it looks?
[20:15] <balloons> and the resulting look on the site itself?
[20:17] <njin> yes, ok, text is bold then
[20:20] <njin> well, tomorrow i start the testcase, goodnight balloons or better good afternoon
[20:20] <njin> balloons: ^^
[20:21] <balloons> njin, hehe.. good night


[03:44] <MatthewAllen> I'm having a look at fixing lp:1633124 - Does anyone know how the downloads for each build is configured in the QA-Tracker-Website? I can't seem to find anywhere to setup the downloads for each build in my local instance
[04:08]  * balloons is up way to late to grok anything MatthewAllen is saying
[04:08] <MatthewAllen> I found it - don't worry :)
[13:47] <gQuigs> the vlan 16.04 -proposed package shows that it has two autopkg regressions (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html)
[13:48] <gQuigs> archs: ppc64el and s390x
[13:49] <gQuigs> both seem like they might be related to lack of memory on the test machine:
[13:49] <gQuigs> FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[13:49] <gQuigs> autopkgtest [10:30:34]: ERROR: "apt-get --simulate --quiet -o APT::Get::Show-User-Simulation-Note=False --auto-remove purge autopkgtest-satdep" failed with stderr "E: Read error - read (14: Bad address)
[13:49] <gQuigs> what's the next step to resolve them or determine if they were a  one-off issue..


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[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:57] <pereiraalex[m]> hi
[12:58] <pereiraalex[m]> can i ask, using kubuntu with kubuntu ci stable repo, its more or less like neon, right ? ( i never actually used neon )
[13:03] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: to some extent yes, but it is primariliy a development resource not intended to be used that way. for example for some release I/we are choosing to ignore that some things are broken, as the release will reach end of life soon, or there is no prospect of the broken things being shipped any more to stable releases
[13:24] <pereiraalex[m]> hum.... what do you recomend, to have a somewhat experience like neon on kubuntu ( something like testing kde beta and rc releases, not following git every day )
[13:29] <Tm_T> allright, fish doesn't work because auth backend never answers
[14:33] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: well, out latest release with backports ppa is usually quite up to date as long as backporting stuff is compatible with that release. to be very up to date you could become a tester and run the development release.
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 Qt 5.9.5 lands as soon as the button pressing works.
[14:55] <mamarley> Yay!
[14:55]  * mamarley presses button.
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/6b0CS1Ht/file_5801.mp4
 By the way: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/0.17.0-1ubuntu4
[15:43] <tsimonq2> And, all of Qt has been accepted. \o/
[16:15] <ricktimmis[m]> Cool
[16:25] <D0U91E> Cool... must be talking about 18.04 and the people who make it so great - Thanks for a truly awesome experience
[16:25] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk (@acheronuk:matrix.org):  how do i become a tester ? just running kubuntu devel release ? i was looking for using stable release but development kde software
[16:29] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: yes. may not be for you if that is what you want though. you can use the CI repo, but you must realise that it is unsupported in any way at all, and could break
[16:29] <acheronuk> for example we will soon discontinue doing builds for Artful 17.10 in there
[16:32] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk:
[16:33] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: I do want to test and help testing, was looking for using stable kubuntu base because of third party apps ( which never target development releases )
[16:33] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: but if kubuntu ci is always mantained for latest kubuntu release, it may be enough
[16:34] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: right now i am trying to test plasma on wayland
[16:35] <acheronuk> CI is usually fairly good for latest stable release as we want to use that packaging for our backports
[16:37] <pereiraalex[m]> nice ... i will continue to use that
[16:38] <pereiraalex[m]> i noticed that stable has plasma 5.12.4 release and unstable has 5.13 ... i guess when plasma 5.13 first beta, it will move to stable ci , am i correct ?
[16:38] <acheronuk> however, some things may not build. for example for things where we sync packaging with debian and minimum versions of dependencies go about what is available in stable release
[16:38] <acheronuk> but frameworks/plasma/apps are usually fine
[16:40] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: correct. the 'stable' branch builds build from whatever is the latest stable branch in KDE git. when plasma 5.13 hits beta, they will branch new stable 5.13 branches in git for that, and sable CI builds will switch to that branch
[16:40] <acheronuk> *stable
[16:40] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: thanks , i will stick with stable ci for now :)
[16:42] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: the only issue with plasma may be if they bump the build requirement to Qt 5.10.x
[16:42] <acheronuk> in which case, we may need to backport that to the stable ppa if we want to keep building it
[16:43] <acheronuk> we have done such a thing before, but be warned we can put new stuff like that in there.
[16:44] <pereiraalex[m]> no worries about putting new stuff
[16:44] <pereiraalex[m]> i previously was testing opensuse with kde git packages
[16:44] <pereiraalex[m]> i was looking for more or less the same, but not so git :P
[16:45] <acheronuk> fair enough. as long as you know things can break :)
[16:49] <pereiraalex[m]> i have been running gentoo since 2002 to 2017 with -Ofast ... didn't knew things broke 🙂( kidding .. -Ofast gives probs with some apps, always used -O3 )
[16:51] <pereiraalex[m]> talking of breaking ... on wayland moving windows to the corner of screen to switch virtual desktops kills latte dock .... gonna report issue
 yes, Plasma 5.13 already requires Qt 5.10.x
 As soon as we get 5.10 in c cycle, I'll work on backports for Bionic.
 @nggraham, not according to it's cmake :P
 its building ok with 5.9.x, though not tested how it runs!
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[22:34] <valorie> weird, nggraham -- where in the heck is Discover getting that icon from?
 from the AppStream metadata in the Ubuntu packaging
 it's an issue in the distro, not in Discover
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 @nggraham, where?
[22:38] <valorie> if it is in our packaging we should be able to fix/s/acheronuk
[22:38] <valorie> :-)
 nothing in our packaing to fix as far as I can see
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 dolphin's appstream file is the one provided in the KDE source, not modified or replaced by us
 I see the screenshot comes from the metadata but not where that icon comes from.
 the huh, let me dig a bit
 I think it's grabbing a default File Manager icon from somewhere.
 the desktop file says "Icon=system-file-manager"
 I don't see that line in the appdata.
 https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/amd64/dolphin/filelist
 .desktop file
 maybe falling back to that
 ew, `system-file-manager` seems like an odd choice for the icon name. I wonder if nautilus uses the name name and they're stomping on one another...
 breeze icon of that name only goes up to 64x64? gnome has larger. is that why?
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 it's also possible this was just fixed with a recent change to Discover; let me see if I can verify
 don't think so; it's an SVG
[23:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[23:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_progenitor build #1055: FIXED in 6 min 13 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_progenitor/1055/
 code is not always that bright. it's in the /64/ folder so it may be assumed that size
 depends on how it is deciding the best icon
 if that is the reason, which it might not be
 anyway. good night. 😴💤
[23:11] <valorie> sleep well, acheronuk
[23:11] <valorie> I heard early an often: computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do
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[23:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_libkgeomap build #97: FIXED in 24 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_libkgeomap/97/


[14:40] <gamsufa> Hello guys
[14:58] <dpm> hi everyone
[14:59] <Jarlath> Phew, thought I was an hour late :)
[14:59] <mhall119> o/
[14:59] <dpm> we're about to start :)
[14:59] <mhall119> about to start
[15:00] <Jarlath> Oh, it's last weeks one I'm watching then.
[15:02] <dpm> we're sorting out a couple of issues with sound and we'll be right there in a sec :)
[15:02] <mhall119> jarlath: refresh the page
[15:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I blame snaply
[15:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> *snappy
[15:03] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: :-P
[15:03] <jarlath> mhall119: thanks :)
[15:03] <jarlath> QUESTION: Is a 'papercuts'-like initiative happening under the name of 'band aids' for UT here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/band-aids-uphone
[15:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I can hear you :3
[15:04] <richrboo> QUESTION: is mobile still a key part of Ubuntu plans? Read Shuttleworth said unlikely Ubuntu Phone will be lead device. What is end goal for Phone?
[15:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Whats your favourite flavoured pie?
[15:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: HUD?
[15:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Messaging framework?
[15:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION; New notifications?
[15:04] <coocoomber> QUESTION: when will meizu pro5 be back on stock?
[15:05] <Thunder>  QUESTION: Is there a timetable for snaps to come to the phone and tablet? If not, when do you think it is likely to happen?
[15:05] <mhall119> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/krita/krita-2016-lets-make-text-and-vector-art-awesome
[15:05] <jarlath> QUESTION: A recent update to the libnl package was causing systems to loose their network interfaces on 14.04. I'm wondering why Ubuntu/Canonical don't use automated testing for critical packages such as these?
[15:05] <dpm> thanks everyone for the questions!
[15:06] <dpm> we'll get to them in a minute after the news update
[15:06] <richrboo_> QUESTION: also read Shuttleworth, doesn't use Ubuntu Phone. Interested if you all do or don't use it as daily driver?
[15:06] <coocoomber> QUESTION: i am trying to find a phone with ubuntu but all links from http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/devices are out of stock or 404 links
[15:06] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Michael Hall are you going to start vreating Ubuntu backgrounds using Krita? (please)
[15:07] <mhall119> coocoomber: which ones are 404?
[15:07] <mhall119> coocoomber: can you file bugs against lp:ubuntu-website for those?
[15:07] <coocoomber> E4.5 is dead link
[15:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Whats your favourite nonalcoholic beverage?
[15:07] <nick110> QUESTION: has the development of OnePlus One stopped? I haven't seen much news about it.
[15:08] <coocoomber> what is lp:ubuntu-website?
[15:08] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: going to start a tea vs. tea war here :)
[15:08] <coocoomber> can you try?
[15:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> nick110 it has not, its slowed down due to exams and dead lines
[15:08] <mhall119> coocoomber: launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
[15:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Mhall119 a goal added to my ubuntu Q&A's Start culture wars/arguments ;P
[15:09] <coocoomber> i don't know how to, can you do it instead?
[15:09] <coocoomber> the e4.5 link is dead
[15:09] <coocoomber> 404 code
[15:09] <jarlath> QUESTION: I clean install/reflash of my E4.5 fixed a lot of issues. I know all systems have this problem but how can updated systems be made equal to clean installs on the phone?
[15:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: What game do you wish was available for Linux which currently is not?
[15:10] <ElectricBob>  QUESTION: I believe that Mark Shuttleworth mentioned at the start of the year that the next verison of snaps may include ways for unity 8 apps to perform some processes in the background. Is this on the books for this year?
[15:10] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: What feature would you like to see in scopes?
[15:10] <ElectricBob>  QUESTION: Although snaps and the technology behind them are open source, it seems that other major linux distributions are not considering it and are instead going with Gnome's own flatpack or something else.  Is it possible for other ditributions like Fedora or Suse to use snaps without Canonical being involved? If not, what would need to change in order for that to become a possibility? I find it frustrating when anothe
[15:10] <nick110> ChloeWolfieGirl: ah, ok. I love my oneplus one and i love ubuntu touch on it
[15:11] <coocoomber> QUESTION: howto install snaps on phone?
[15:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> nick110 same :) headphones and calls are coming next, hyped but trying to keep patient x'D
[15:13] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Part of microsofts convergence plan is the xbox, when will canonical have an xbox competitor, or is the idea to leave that to steamOS?
[15:13] <ChloeWolfieGirl> x'D
[15:14] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Can we see a ubuntu edge device, I know the original didnt get enough money but Id love to see a new one with usb-c and wired convergence.
[15:15] <nick110> QUESTION: I have been in many linux communities, but the Ubuntu community is the most friendly, human, and helpful one, how do you think Ubuntu achieve this?
[15:15] <popey> nick110: code of conduct goes a long way
[15:16] <popey> given we've had that since 2004 or so, it's quite ingrained
[15:17] <jarlath> QUESTION: I thought I was alone with problems with location services (which affect uNav and Nearby scope) but a recent review of MX5 reported similar. Is it on the radar at Canonical?
[15:17] <mariogrip> QUESTION: Is it / will it be possible to program ubuntu apps on rust?
[15:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Windows Phones are loosing market share, Windows Phones currently have more features, more apps and are more slick then ubuntu phones, how will Ubuntu Phones avoid similar circumstances that Microsoft is going through?
[15:21] <sebThreeM10white> hi
[15:21] <jarlath> QUESTION: There have been hundreds if not thousands of reports of institutions or regions switching to Ubuntu over the years. Is there a central place to go back and read them?
[15:22] <nick110> QUESTION: will mark be at Ubucon Europe, and do you is there some known speakers and talks yet?
[15:22] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: When will Ubuntu over take windows in marketshare?
[15:22] <jarlath> QUESTION: Any plans to make it easier to report bugs from the phone? For example, a link to the launchpad page in the app store entry as well as a mobile friendly launchpad :)
[15:24] <jarlath> QUESTION: David P, my wife wants to know how you got the glass bottle around the light bulb :)
[15:24] <mariogrip> mhall119: 12 :)
[15:24] <mariogrip> devices
[15:24] <mariogrip> + exam and stuff
[15:24] <ChloeWolfieGirl> hai mariogrip
[15:25] <mariogrip> hay ChloeWolfieGirl :D
[15:25] <ChloeWolfieGirl> :3
[15:27] <nick110> QUESTION: Will there be Ubuntu touch on OnePlus 3? that would be awesome
[15:27] <nick110> hi mariogrip! :D
[15:27] <mariogrip> nick110: Hi
[15:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: What little thing do you want to see different or changed in Ubuntu phone that may not have much attention because its small compaired to other features or dont feel its worthy of a launchpad bug?
[15:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Nick110 dreams
[15:28] <mariogrip> :P
[15:29] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Are there plans to talk to more smaller phone manufacturers like WileyFox and OnePlus or are you heading for the top with Samsung and Sony?
[15:30] <popey> I spoke to WileyFox :)
[15:30] <popey> They are nice people.
[15:30] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mariogrip need to get Ubuntu working perfectly on other devices so you can port it to the OP3
[15:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[15:31] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Popey I asked the WileyFox people about the posibility of an Ubuntu pjone, they said they couldnt but they do seem like a really nice comapny :)
[15:31] <jarlath> QUESTION: When will unity8 in 16.04 repo support installs from the app store? They download 100% then give an error.
[15:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> is the D in this name showing or not?
[15:31] <mariogrip> ChloeWolfieGirl: yeah!
[15:32]  * mariogrip needs to hurry up!
[15:32]  * mariogrip is to slow!
[15:32] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Gotta Go Fast
[15:32] <mariogrip> sonic :D
[15:33] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Haha yes!
[15:33] <SebthreeM10HD> QUESTION: What happended to Ubuntu Light?
[15:35] <mariogrip> QUESTION: where is my Ubuntu watch? :)
[15:35] <artas> whats the best ubuntu for 2 gigas ram?
[15:36] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Whats the best way to convince other software venders to make linux apps? Will snappy help developers of other OS's make linux apps?
[15:36] <mariogrip> artas: normal ubuntu will run fine with that :)
[15:36] <artas> thanks
[15:36] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Mariogrip itll happen when you port ubuntu to the apple watch ;P
[15:37] <artas> good question cloeworf!
[15:37] <mariogrip> artas: but, nothing is "best" ubuntu, the best one is what you like :)
[15:37] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Mariogrip +2
[15:37] <artas> I like it :D
[15:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> #DesignedWithUbuntuInMind
[15:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ChloeWolfieGirl: what was?
[15:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Ubuntu edge
[15:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ChloeWolfieGirl: sure but it never hapended for real, hence these BQ and Meizu devices which were made with Android in mind not Ubuntu
[15:40] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Seb thsts why Id like to see a new ubuntu edge ;P
[15:40] <artas> its possíbel to put any phone with "ubuntu", i will like to try on my phone
[15:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> artas: nope, but if you got a Nexus 4 or  something like that you should be able to put it on ther
[15:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> artas: one plus ones have a port to
[15:41] <mariogrip> ChloeWolfieGirl: oh, apple products will be like trying to flash nexus 4 recovery on a rock.... so, that will be hard
[15:43] <wurdee> QUESTION: I see the potential for JuJu. I'm stumbling over the huge flux happening on 2.0devel. When will there be a stable 2.0 release of JuJu?
[15:43] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Mariogrip: When will you port Ubuntu to the iPhone 6?
[15:44] <mariogrip> ChloeWolfieGirl: when apple makes Itunes for linux :)
[15:44] <artas> wow,
[15:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ChloeWolfieGirl: have you got a WIndows phone which one?
[15:44] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Mariogrip: Soon tm
[15:46] <artas> need to go, take care
[15:46] <dpm> http://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-europe/speakers
[15:46] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Seb I dont, but Ive used a few (friends) they are fast and have more apps
[15:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ChloeWolfieGirl: yees they will hae more apps
[15:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> can use the WIndows 10 store :d
[15:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> on more reecent ones
[15:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I think?
[15:47] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Yeah facebook are making new apps for windows phone
[15:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ChloeWolfieGirl: but the interesting feature is contiumem but only for the more expensive high end ones Lumias
[15:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> so you haen't used that?
[15:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> need a dock to use it thingey
[15:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> unlike Ubuntu's thing :D
[15:49] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I havent used continuem, I just look at these things on youtube and in stores, looking at the competition
[15:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ChloeWolfieGirl: shame the expensive ones are so expensive since I got a nex dock coming next month or so, got to give them my address first
[15:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I'll be using my remix minis with it and other  things I can connedct to it :D
[15:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> nice device for Ubuntu convergence as well so
[15:50] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Yeah thats what I was thinking when seeing them.
[15:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> seeing what?
[15:51] <mariogrip> QUESTION: why isn't canonical sponsoring mariogrip (ubports) for his great work??
[15:51] <mariogrip> :P
[15:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> mariogrip: asked by :d
[15:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ChloeWolfieGirl: seeing what?
[15:53] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Convergence options.
[15:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the nexdock you meant?
[15:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah I saw Jane Sibler atweet in my emails, thats how I found out orignally :d
[15:53] <dragonbite> :)
[15:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> seems it's going to cost me about the same as what I bought it for, the actsaully get it here, shipping and customs
[15:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> to actsauly get it here
[15:54] <jarlath_> mhall119: that was me, correct :)
[15:54] <jarlath_> thanks
[15:55] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Damn..
[15:56] <mariogrip> hahah :P
[15:56]  * SebthreeBQM10HD is sebsebseb
[15:59] <mariogrip> QUESTION: What's the status on Unity8 with binary Nvidia drivers
[15:59] <mariogrip> awww :=)
[16:00] <ChloeWolfieGirl> :3
[16:00] <jarlath_> Thanks guys!
[16:01] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Thank y'all :)
[16:02] <mariogrip> Thanks :D
[16:02] <dpm> thanks everyone!
[16:02] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Bye guys
[16:02] <mhall119> thanks everyone
[16:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hello mhall119 's wife or whoever that was :d he h
[16:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> mhall119: good session
[16:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> dpm: ^
[16:04] <dpm> \o/
[16:04] <dpm> SebthreeBQM10HD, I like the device you're running ;)
[16:05] <mhall119> SebthreeBQM10HD: daughter :)
[16:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> who put that dpm ? this IRC client isn't the best
[16:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> mhall119: oh
[16:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> dpm: yeah it's a good device :)