[08:16] <airtonix> amanu, FedererRoger isnt launchy a win32 app?
[08:16] <akhtar> hello
[08:16] <amanu> can i get these to any linux working machine and just install it?
[08:16] <airtonix> FedererRoger i think you may want to look at gnome-do
[08:16] <BeBoo> jim_p_busy: i was following this howto and it said to set my horizSync to 30-60 and my vertRefresh to 47 or something. i set the horizSync to 28-33 and the vertRefresh to 42-72 and it worked!
[08:16] <airtonix> amanu, only ubuntu machines
[08:16] <FedererRoger> airtonix: whats that
[08:16] <jim_p_busy> lol
[08:16] <amanu> ok
[08:16] <tenX> anyone ever ran into an error iterating ide devices on ubuntu server 8.04.1 using sata drives preventing the final shutdown?
[08:16] <fenerli7> airtonix: Launchy has a Linux version now
[08:16] <airtonix> amanu, and only ubuntu machines that are the same version as yours
[08:17] <BeBoo> So, the whole time i thought it was teh cable, the tv... it was the dern rates
[08:17] <airtonix> FedererRoger, install it and find out....sudo apt-get install gnome-do
[08:17] <BeBoo> now, the tv is set to sit to the right of screen 0 (my lcd)
[08:17] <BeBoo> i can't move my mouse to it though
[08:17] <Brainyiscool_> airtonix: Any idea how to fix overlapping partition tables?
[08:17] <Brainyiscool_> http://nqrwemkrwe.pastebin.com/d7fdc9f1c
[08:17] <Cheeky> airtonix: hey man i have a quetion; could you give me your suggestion?
[08:17] <FedererRoger> airtonix: nothing... cant find  i typed...  apt-get install launchy
[08:18] <BeBoo> nevermind, there it goes
[08:18] <airtonix> FedererRoger, your not using sudo which is why apt-get wont work for you
[08:18] <airtonix> FedererRoger, sudo apt-cache search conky gnome-do
[08:18] <airtonix> FedererRoger, sudo apt-get install gnome-do
[08:18] <Agent_bob> airtonix sudo not needed for apt-cache
[08:18] <fenerli7> FedererRoger: if you want Launchy, download this:
[08:18] <fenerli7> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/launchy/launchy_2.1.2-1_i386.deb?modtime=1217966988&big_mirror=0
[08:18] <FedererRoger> i also typed:   yum install launchy
[08:19] <Agent_bob> airtonix bad habbit to use sudo on things that don't need it.
[08:19] <airtonix> FedererRoger, yum doesnt apply on debian based systems
[08:19] <airtonix> Agent_bob,  and guess what command i would likley be using next?
[08:19] <fenerli7> FedererRoger: launchy isn't in Ubuntu repos, you have to download the package (see link above)
[08:19] <FedererRoger> airtonix: Aint Ubuntu based on REDHAT ?
[08:19] <fenerli7> no
[08:19] <airtonix> FedererRoger, no
[08:19] <Rufus> it's back! for some reason there are now two installs and the first (default) one didn't load
[08:19] <linuxhelp-Suppor> DEBIAN
[08:20] <Rufus> thanks for your help guys
[08:20] <Rufus> I really do appreciate it
[08:20] <airtonix> FedererRoger, hence it's consistent use of apt-get since warty
[08:20] <B3z3rk3r> morning all
[08:20] <user_> does anyone remember how to make a case script?
[08:20] <Agent_bob> FedererRoger ubuntu uses debian as it's upstream source
[08:20] <fenerli7> user_: a what?
[08:20] <FedererRoger> what is better ?  Redhat or Ubuntu ??
[08:20] <tenX> user_: bash?
[08:20] <Cheeky> i have p2 .. 266 with 128 ram and i want install ubuntu server .. on it .. to run php and mysql .. would it run ? and will practice.. my php and SQL .. over ssh ,,on that p2 machine .. any  possibilty it woudl work i already ran .. the puppy live cd to check if the hardware wrked
[08:20] <fenerli7> FedererRoger: matter of personal taste
[08:20] <airtonix> user_, case as in bash scripts?
[08:20] <user_> a script to open different spplications from within the terminal?
[08:20] <Agent_bob> Rufus sorry i can't do more with raid. just never messed with them.
[08:21] <Rufus> thanks anyway agent_bob
[08:21] <B3z3rk3r> FedererRoger, dont u think asking that in #ubuntu will give u bias3d responses?
[08:21] <amanu> airtonix:while im trying to copy that archives folder in my potable usb pendrive its showing me a error messa ge like this "error oprning file permission denied"
[08:21] <Agent_bob> FedererRoger slackware
[08:21] <fenerli7> :D
[08:21] <FedererRoger> B3z3rk3r: im straight
[08:21] <smilefafa> hi
[08:21] <user_> bash, yes
[08:21] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:21] <Poke-SmOt> is freenode basically dedicated to linux?
[08:22] <airtonix> amanu, i recommend using apt-on-cd to backup your apt-archives....it will gice you the option to have them exported as one iso file which you can then move to your usb drive
[08:22] <FedererRoger> Help! i want to boot with Ubuntu from my USB stick... in any computer, so i can carry with me my desktop, is that possible??
[08:22] <xye> anyone know why my mouse won't work when i'm trying install ubuntu with a dual boot? i get stuck at step 4 or wahtever trying to set the partition space
[08:23] <tenX> user_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/testbranch.html
[08:23] <unop> Poke-SmOt, not at all - there are channels for almost everything under the sun
[08:23] <Daft_Punk> when you start virtualbox there are icons for different types of OS's by the name of the VM, where are those icons located?
[08:23] <fenerli7> FedererRoger: I think the new Ubuntu has something for that, Fedora 9 also has that too
[08:23] <xye> it keeps giving me the error Size to small when i try to just press enter
[08:23] <xye> and i can't slide the partion spacer because the mouse won't work
[08:23] <amanu> airtonix:ok i will do the same
[08:23] <Poke-SmOt> when i look at channel list, almost all the channels are kernal help channels
[08:23] <FedererRoger> fenerli7: so Fedora i much superior to Ubuntu?
[08:23] <amanu> thank u
[08:23] <xye> do you think a regular ball mouse might work?
[08:23] <user_> thank you
[08:23] <fenerli7> FedererRoger: in some aspects
[08:23] <Flannel> !install | FedererRoger
[08:24] <Flannel> FedererRoger: That page explains how to
[08:24] <tenX> xye: do regular balls work on galz?
[08:24] <fenerli7> Flannel: that explains how to install FROM a usb stick
[08:24] <xye> what?
[08:24] <Poke-SmOt> lol do balls work on gals
[08:24] <FedererRoger> Flannel: i dont want to install Ubuntu...
[08:24] <Poke-SmOt> yes they do
[08:24] <Poke-SmOt> federerroger i think your in the wrong channel then :P
[08:24] <tenX> Poke-SmOt: see ;) so it ll work on computers
[08:24] <xye> i want to install ubuntu so badly, i have to for my class, but I can't get past step 4 i think it is trying to install
[08:24] <Flannel> FedererRoger: you'd be installing to the USB.  OR just copy the liveCD iso to the usb stick
[08:24] <FedererRoger> Flannel: i just want to boot with Ubuntu in any hardware
[08:25] <xye> it's epic failure for me, i'm actually depressed irl
[08:25] <fenerli7> xye: what was step 4?
[08:25] <ompaul> FedererRoger, the instructions you want are on that page
[08:25] <fenerli7> partitioning?
[08:25] <xye> the partioning step
[08:25] <tenX> xye: calm down first
[08:25] <FedererRoger> okok ill read
[08:25] <Flannel> fenerli7: It also explains the installing to usb devices.
[08:25] <FedererRoger> if doesnt work, ill ask refund
[08:25] <fenerli7> xye: what's the problem?
[08:25] <tenX> xye: partitioning fails?
[08:25] <CochiseIRL> anyone ever had a problem with your applications menu in gnome not working?
[08:25] <fenerli7> Flannel:  my bad
[08:25] <xye> my mouse won't work so I can't slide the partioner and i try using the keyboard, but everytime i try to partion it says "size to small"
[08:25] <ompaul> FedererRoger, if it does not work look at your hardware :P
[08:25] <fenerli7> xye: can't you manually calculate values?
[08:26] <fenerli7> xye: USB mouse?
[08:26] <xye> yea I was going to try to do the manual install
[08:26] <xye> yea it's a USB mouse
[08:26] <xye> but i don't want to end up messing up, since im installing this along side my windows install
[08:26] <tenX> xye: on a basic text based installation you wont need a mouse
[08:26]  * ElijahDuBarryVT I'm back!
[08:26] <Daft_Punk> when you start virtualbox there are icons for different types of OS's by the name of the VM, where are those icons located?
[08:26] <Crayboff> OMFG best video I have seen in a long time: http://gramatan.livejournal.com/46533.html   sorry, had to share that with you.
[08:26] <tenX> xye: do you have a system dedicated to ubuntu?
[08:27] <B3z3rk3r> xye, if you hit tab that should take u to the next input box.. eliminating the need for a mouse
[08:27] <fenerli7> xye: why do you need to slide the slider, can't you manually calcualte the values (e.g. start point, size, end point)?
[08:27] <xye> tab doesn't work I tried that.
[08:27] <xye> No, im pretty new to manual partitioning
[08:27] <xye> I know i need to set a root and swap size from what I've read so far, but i'm still somewhat lost.
[08:27] <B3z3rk3r> xye, have u tried running something like gparted to partition your drives first.. then installing ?
[08:28] <xye> Nope, just using the ubuntu cd I burned
[08:28] <tenX> xye: again: calm down :) people will help you out in here if you ask politely
[08:28] <xye> Anyone know why it might be saying Size to small? it shows 120gigs free for the ubuntu install
[08:29] <xye> i'm sorry, i'm in a huge rush but I do appologize, it's just late here=[
[08:29] <amanu> xye:what uppp
[08:29] <tenX> xye: never ran into this installing many systems
[08:29] <amanu> xye:whats uppp
[08:29] <B3z3rk3r> xye, ok, id give that a try if i were you... you can download it for free from here http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[08:29] <fenerli7> wtf? just use the ubuntu live CD mode?
[08:29] <fenerli7> gparted is on that
[08:29] <xye> yea i thought gparted came on the live cd.
[08:29] <B3z3rk3r> xye, this will mean that u dont have to manually edit your partition
[08:29] <xye> isn't that what i'm using?
[08:30] <tenX> B3z3rk3r: gparted wont do anything else the ubuntu installation partitioning dialogue does
[08:30] <fenerli7> the thing in the install is something else (not hparted)
[08:30] <intravenous> harro dere xye
[08:30] <intravenous> lul
[08:30] <xye> IV?
[08:30] <xye> WTF?
[08:30] <brandonmpace> yea but the gparted live cd is more stable and works when gparted on ubuntu doesn´t
[08:30] <intravenous> lul
[08:30] <subdolus> anyone know how to download an entire directory with wget, without downloading the  directories above it?
[08:30] <fenerli7> tenX: but he can't use the ubuntu install one due to a mouse problem
[08:30] <intravenous> i autojoin into this channel/server man
[08:30] <intravenous> never been fucked to change the commands
[08:30] <fenerli7> subdolus: you mean under it? i.e. children?
[08:30] <intravenous> anyway, im goin to that other place now, peace
[08:30] <Flannel> intravenous: Please watch your language.
[08:30] <subdolus> -m seem to grab anything and everything within in the first dir
[08:30] <tenX> fenerli7: okay installing systems i stick to text based mode usually
[08:30] <subdolus> fenerli7: yeah, pretty much
[08:30] <Daft_Punk> when you start virtualbox there are icons for different types of OS's by the name of the VM, where are those icons located?
[08:31] <amanu> i have been installing a package suddenly i try to close it but it was not responding
[08:31] <amanu> how to force quit
[08:31] <amanu> a program
[08:31] <monotonous> sorry i have a quick question - new to xchat - how do i join an irc server which isnt listed in my server list?
[08:31] <xye> Hmmm
[08:31] <fenerli7> back later
[08:31] <xye> I guess I shall try the TXT installation.
[08:31] <subdolus> fenerli7: but I dont want it to grab the parent dirs
[08:31] <xye> Do you think a regular ball mouse might work since my USB lazer mouse won't?
[08:31] <ceil420> monotonous, /server irc.whatever.org
[08:31] <tenX> fenerli7: generally i will never see the use in gui usage
[08:31] <ceil420> monotonous, or maybe /connect, but i think that's irssi
[08:31] <B3z3rk3r> xye, have u checked the forums for your mouse?
[08:31] <monotonous> sweet thanks ciel420
[08:32] <JaseX> Does anyone know anything about configuring SLiM ?
[08:32] <ceil420> monotonous, you can also just add the server to your network list
[08:32] <tenX> xye: lazer = razer?
[08:32] <user_> is there a way to make ubuntu client work as a server?
[08:32] <xye> Nope, it's a mx518
[08:32] <B3z3rk3r> xye, thats a logitech right?
[08:32] <xye> Yes it is
[08:32] <JaseX> tenX: I kind of agree with you, especially having a blind friend who depends on CLI and screen readers...
[08:32] <TiMiDo> user_, what type of server though?
[08:33] <B3z3rk3r> i think thats what iv got.. havent had a prob with it ?
[08:33] <amanu> cant i have like "task manager" in xp here to force quit a program which is not respondinggg?
[08:33] <JaseX> amanu: try system-monitor
[08:33] <B3z3rk3r> perhaps it isnt the mouse, but a corrupted driver of some sort?
[08:33] <smilefafa> yes,of course
[08:33] <xye> strange, im still unsure why it says ' size too small ' when it automatically gives 120gigs to the ubuntu installation?
[08:33]  * B3z3rk3r waves at Daft_Punk
[08:33] <xye> im not using drivers for the mouse, it's plug n play
[08:33] <user_> the kind of server wher I can connect from another computer?
[08:33] <airtonix> amanu, you want to right click on the gnome-panel and click "add to panel"
[08:33] <Daft_Punk> B3z3rk3r, waives back
[08:33] <subdolus> if wget cant do it, what do you guys use as a download manager?
[08:33] <tenX> user_: you will have to read up a lot. but in general you can of course let your client installation run server type of services. the client installation is just a direct user approach
[08:34] <subdolus> im after something that can grab specific entire dirs
[08:34] <amanu> ok
[08:34] <Flynsarmy> Any gnome-mud users here?
[08:34] <airtonix> amanu, then look for a widget called 'force quit'
[08:34] <tenX> user_: you can install any kind of server apps if you want
[08:34] <B3z3rk3r> Daft_Punk, sup man? hows things?
[08:34] <xye> I appreaciate the help everyone, I need to sleep. I'll try to txt installation and check back in here tomorrow. Take care!
[08:34] <B3z3rk3r> xye, good luck
[08:34] <tenX> JaseX: CLI? can you help me out on that?
[08:34] <airtonix> amanu, to use it ...click on the force-quit icon on your panel then click on the misbehaving app
[08:34] <Daft_Punk> B3z3rk3r, i am tired
[08:34] <Daft_Punk> :(
[08:34] <smilefafa> good luck
[08:34] <JaseX> a screen reader?
[08:34] <user_> like, I want to be able to access my computer through the internet from another computer
[08:34] <smilefafa> :)
[08:35] <subdolus> anyone?
[08:35] <B3z3rk3r> Daft_Punk, lol.. me too dude... way too much math HW to do still :(
[08:35] <JaseX> tenX: you need a cli screen reader?
[08:35] <airtonix> amanu, you can do the same thing via command line : sudo killall appname -9
[08:35] <Cheeky> can ubuntu server version run on a p2 266 MHZ .. with 128 ram ..an using MySQL over my home network?
[08:35] <B3z3rk3r> user_, see radmin, or VNC
[08:35] <CochiseIRL> Gnome menu when clicked highlights but does not display the menu, anyone any ideas?
[08:35] <tenX> JaseX: no :) just wondering what cli stands for. could as well look it up
[08:35] <amanu> ok
[08:35] <JaseX> Command line interface
[08:35] <FedererRoger> Flannel: aint working!  i want to make the same as DAMN SMALL LINUX but with ubuntu, is that possible?
[08:35] <user_> I tried to install an ubuntu server directly but the GUI woudn't work
[08:35] <tenX> JaseX: :D lol. thats my biz. excuse me
[08:36] <airtonix> Cheeky, should be able ...just dont expect to service a netowrk of 10 people accessing at the same time with awesome results
[08:36] <amanu> airtonix:i done the same
[08:36] <brandonmpace> Cheeky: I have run the ubuntu desktop on 350 Mhz so I don´t see why a CLI interface would not work
[08:36] <tenX> JaseX: simply didnt know the abbreviation
[08:36] <ZKAT8IT> has anyone installed a radeon x1160? i cant get mine working
[08:36] <JaseX> Ah, @ tenX
[08:36] <jim_p_busy> FedererRoger: if you are patient enough, yes
[08:36] <JaseX> Man i'm doing two things at once...
[08:37] <jim_p_busy> FedererRoger: you need a bare minimum installation right?
[08:37] <brandonmpace> !radeon
[08:37] <Cheeky> airtonix: nah ,man .. iam learning SQL using MySQL .. just bought a book iam gonna learn .. so was wonering i coul .. and i woulbe using a ssh to get intothe mysql on the server right
[08:37] <amanu> airtonix: iwant t oconfigure my webcam (in built to my laptop) here i will use it ion xp but i cant find it here how can i
[08:37] <JaseX> Ubuntu on this laptop updating and crud... and on the iMac upgrading from etch to lenny.
[08:37] <tenX> JaseX: not a native speaker. but i live, get up, go to sleep with 16 colors and bash
[08:37] <airtonix> Cheeky, should be fine
[08:37] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: nice iam about toinstall it .. is it staright forwar set up ?
[08:37] <JaseX> @ tenX I hear you there, I feel more comfortable half the time with CLI programs anyways.
[08:38] <FedererRoger> jim_p_busy: yeah, but no a bare install , i want to boot the OS  from an USB stick, but i want to it with ubuntu
[08:38] <airtonix> amanu, webcams and wifi cards are two things that are not so well covered in ubuntu yet..
[08:38] <amanu> ok
[08:38] <brandonmpace> Cheeky: I have not used the server but if it is anything like the desktop version yes
[08:38] <jim_p> FedererRoger: there are instructions on pendrivelinux.org for this
[08:38] <JaseX> amanu: what laptop?
[08:38] <amanu> hcl
[08:38] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: iam about to fin out i guess ; i got this machine .. in a dumpster lool
[08:38] <user_> any help on how I can make my ubtuntu client to run server applications?
[08:38] <FedererRoger> pendrivelinux.org  << doesnt work
[08:39] <tenX> user_: just install them??
[08:39] <brandonmpace> Cheeky: lol I have an 8086 in my garage
[08:39] <ompaul> Cheeky, it is very simple from the menu, however you have been advised elsewhere already that a complex database will cripple that box and make it really slow and unresponsive you choose the lamp options from the install menu and then install openssh-server and have fun but I am warning you a lack of speed will be frustrating
[08:39] <JaseX> amanu: try learning what your laptop has for a camera, and then see what you have to install to maybe get it to work.
[08:39] <JaseX> I know most hp Pavilion laptops built in cams work fine out of box with Cheese
[08:39] <user_> through the terminal?
[08:39] <brandonmpace> Cheeky: that would be a good learning box, the one you got
[08:39] <JaseX> and with pidgin...
[08:39] <JaseX> Not sure with your laptop though.
[08:39] <amanu> JaseX:how and from where can i learn it
[08:40] <FAJ> brandonmpace: back from last night ;)  still am having issues
[08:40] <RunDMC> wenas
[08:40] <brandonmpace> JaseX: i wasn´t aware pidgin supported webcams... you MUST mean Amsn
[08:40] <jim_p> FedererRoger: its pendrivelinux.com , sorry
[08:40] <JaseX> amanu: my friend the ubuntuforums.org have lots of posts pertaining on how to find all this out... i'm not sure on the command as to find out a webcam.
[08:40] <JaseX> You're right brandonmpace
[08:40] <JaseX> It's 4 AM here.
[08:40] <brandonmpace> !webcam
[08:40] <amanu> ok
[08:40] <JaseX> I apologize.
[08:40] <brandonmpace> lol no biggie
[08:41] <brandonmpace> just makin sure
[08:41] <brandonmpace> i got excited for a sec lol
[08:41] <airtonix> JaseX, amanu since most webcams are connected to the main system via a usb bus...you could start with : lsusb...or lspci to at least determine if ubuntu can see your device
[08:41] <tenX> ah hey as i appear to have joined this chan for interest two questions having bothered me some time ago i'd like to address to you ubuntu experts in here: first issue - what switch will prevent apt-get/aptitude updates from kernel or /boot/grub/menu.lst upgrades?
[08:41] <amanu> ok i will check it now
[08:42] <tenX> not safe-upgrade
[08:42] <FedererRoger> jim_p:  thanks!
[08:42] <jim_p> FedererRoger: you are welcome
[08:42] <airtonix> amanu, have a look through the ubuntu forums in the tutorials and tips section for any webcam threads that might be there
[08:42] <amanu> ok
[08:42] <FedererRoger> jim_p:  thanks! i want to do DAMN SMALL LINUX but with UBUNTU... DSL sucks
[08:43] <Cheeky> ompaul: iam screwed... the cd rom was deteted but wont let me install it coz the cd rom .. is slow .. how can i install it through a netwrok .. is that even possbible ?
[08:43] <jim_p> lol
[08:43] <JaseX> FedererRoger: I would wait for fluxbuntu 8.10 to be made then.
[08:43] <unop> tenX, if i remember right, kernel upgrades are not automatic -- and even if you install a new kernel you'll be warned
[08:43] <JaseX> and just dd that onto a thumbdrive.
[08:43] <ompaul> Cheeky, got a usb port on the box and will it support booting from usb
[08:43] <brandonmpace> !webcam | amanu
[08:43] <JaseX> Anyways ubuntu 8.10 will support installing to a usb thumbdrive from within ubuntu itself.
[08:44] <FedererRoger> JaseX: why flubuntu?? why not use ubuntu?
[08:44] <JaseX> Fluxbuntu is faster being based off the fluxbox wm rather than the gnome de
[08:44] <Cheeky> ompaul: no .. the problem, is that i have a usb dvd rom .. and it didnt give the opton to book from usb cd rom ..
[08:44] <tenX> unop: my systems dont have auto updates, i simply wonder if there is some config file switch telling apt to leave out kernel updates
[08:44] <unop> JaseX, you can install fluxbox on ubuntu and switch desktops - to pretty much the same effect
[08:44] <brandonmpace> !install | Cheeky
[08:44] <Cheeky> ompaul: this is my machine with 128 ram thou http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Dimension-Desktop-266-MHz-Pentium/dp/B00005UJYR
[08:44] <ompaul> Cheeky, well then maybe you will do what else I suggested - xen virtual box quemu on your main desktop
[08:45] <FedererRoger> JaseX: but i want Gnome and all full desktop, into my 128 GB USB stick
[08:45] <amanu> here is output for my lspci,lsusb commands can any one find my type of web cam here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/48815/
[08:45] <JaseX> if you're going for a thumb drive usable distro, capable of running on practically ANY pc FedererRoger I'd recommend at least replacing gnome with Fluxbox or LXDE
[08:45] <JaseX> 128 GB usb?
[08:45] <JaseX> You mean 128 MB
[08:45] <JaseX> The highest pen drive I own... is 8gb, the highest one I know of is 16 gb
[08:45] <FedererRoger> JaseX: why not Gnome? 128 gb
[08:45] <brandonmpace> JaseX: there is a 32 GB now
[08:45] <JaseX> there is no 128 gb usb stick
[08:46] <JaseX> brandonmpace: so they released it finally?
[08:46] <JaseX> Have to grab one.
[08:46] <unop> tenX, by automatic i mean - newer kernels are not pulled in via  apt-get/aptitude upgrade - you have to explicitly install the newer kernels to get them.
[08:46] <brandonmpace> yep
[08:46] <brandonmpace> www.newegg.com has them
[08:46] <JaseX> I'm waiting for a 32gig sdhc card to come in the mail
[08:46] <brandonmpace> lol
[08:46] <JaseX> ah newegg.com = friend :D
[08:46] <FedererRoger> JaseX: the space is irrelevant, i want FULL DESKTOP , with GNOME and all the crap + UBUNTU in my USB stick
[08:46] <JaseX> FedererRoger: 128 mb is not enough.
[08:46] <Debolaz> I wouldn't mind something more lean than stock ubuntu, but the problem has been intergration with other systems, like SMB shares. Only (k)ubuntu seems to support such things in a simple way.
[08:46] <JaseX> The space is relevant sir @ FedererRoger
[08:46] <Massiv0r> Can anyone confirm me that Lineage2 (Interlude Chronicle) isn't able to run @ wine even if the server has no gameguard?
[08:46] <FedererRoger> FedererRoger: 128 GIGAbytes
[08:47] <brandonmpace> FedererRoger: that will take at least a 4 gig, possible a 2 gig
[08:47] <JaseX> I have issues running it from a 2 gigabyte thumbdrive
[08:47] <tenX> unop: you mean choosing dist-upgrade rather to upgrade or safe-upgrade?
[08:47] <JaseX> FedererRoger:  there's no such thing as 128 Gigabyte thumbdrive. is what i'm telling you.
[08:47] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: wow .. ojk .. which on is the easies..
[08:47] <brandonmpace> Cheeky: ?
[08:47] <Cheeky> ompaul: i wanan try the new box .. heeheh .. how could i do this ?
[08:48] <FedererRoger> JaseX: thats irrelevant, i have a 128 GIGAs thumb , my question is if there is any limitation to Put a FULL ubuntu desktop in it?
[08:48] <JaseX> FedererRoger: yes because you have no 128 gigabyte thumbdrive sir.
[08:48] <ompaul> Cheeky, move your cd / dvd to it temporarily
[08:48] <JaseX> You have a 128 megabyte thumbdrive.
[08:48] <JaseX> IT IS VERY Relevant my dear friend.
[08:48] <brandonmpace> full ubuntu desktop needs 4 gigs for stability and full install
[08:48] <Cheeky> ompaul: can i pm you ?
[08:49] <FedererRoger> JaseX: forget about the space, i have there 50gb of information already, and i want to install UBUNTU
[08:49] <ompaul> Cheeky, go on
[08:49] <FedererRoger> Irrelevant
[08:49] <JaseX> brandonmpace: not necessarily... if you chop out crap like openoffice and evolution and the likes.
[08:49] <JaseX> relevant sir.
[08:49] <unop> tenX, dist-upgrade is no longer recommended so you shouldn't be using it - use do-release-upgrade instead - but if you dist-upgraded (by any means) a newer kernel is installed - which makes sense - packages in newer versions of ubuntu rely on newer versions of the kernel
[08:49] <JaseX> Why won't you listen.
[08:49] <JaseX> YOU cannot forget about the space.
[08:49] <Massiv0r> Can anyone confirm me that Lineage2 (Interlude Chronicle) isn't able to run @ wine even if the server has no gameguard?
[08:49] <JaseX> The space is the crucial basis.
[08:50] <JaseX> I'd be damned if you could efficiently run a xubuntu install from 128mb
[08:50] <brandonmpace> JaseX: I think we should drop  the space issue.   FedererRoger you need 4 gigabytes of free space on the drive as long as you  have a decent amount of ram
[08:50] <JaseX> here's your answer FedererRoger, it's impossible to do what you are trying to do. give up.
[08:50] <FAJ> hi can anyone help me with my wifi?  i followed these directions:  http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo to get the -ng madwifi drivers.. but it doesn't show up in my iwconfig. any help please, i am desparate
[08:50] <tenX> unop: thanks for that hint as i will have to fight with myself changing long time behaviour :/
[08:50] <JaseX> FedererRoger: forget DSL, try Puppy Linux
[08:51] <dody> mm
[08:51] <brandonmpace> puppy requires slightly more than 128 mb unless you just copy the cd files
[08:51] <FedererRoger> I Have 128 gigabytes, so its not a problem for me
[08:51] <brandonmpace> FAJ: what is the wireless chipset?
[08:51] <JaseX> brandonmpace: exactly, but he wants the full experience, and the iso can be modified.
[08:52] <bazhang_> !usb | FedererRoger read this
[08:52] <JaseX> FedererRoger: apparently so, that's why it's telling you it won't install.
[08:52] <brandonmpace> thanks bazhang_
[08:52] <dody> hay everybody?
[08:52] <JaseX> @ bazhang_ thanks...
[08:52] <bazhang_> FedererRoger, please read the links provided.
[08:52]  * JaseX sighs.
[08:52] <amanu> yes i can see that my webcam is "CMOS 1.3M PIXEL CAMERA]"
[08:52] <dody> how to install gyhc?
[08:53] <brandonmpace> *
[08:53] <JaseX> I should perhaps goto bed
[08:53] <amanu> HOW CAN I CONFIGURE THAT IN UBUNTU
[08:53] <JaseX> dody:  Gyach?
[08:53] <JaseX> dody: or am I mistaken?
[08:53] <Massiv0r> Can anyone confirm me that Lineage2 (Interlude Chronicle) isn't able to run @ wine even if the server has no gameguard?
[08:53] <bazhang_> gyachi/e?
[08:53] <FedererRoger> thanks... so its confirmed, I can install FULL UBUNTU DESKTOP, into an usb stick of 128gb
[08:53] <bazhang_> FedererRoger, please stop and read the links.
[08:53] <Massiv0r> FedererRoger usbs run even faster than HD so good luck.
[08:53] <dody> yahoo messenger for ubuntu
[08:53] <JaseX> ... that's great... when they release 128gb thumb drives in 3 years or so.
[08:54] <brandonmpace> !webcam | amanu click the first link
[08:54] <JaseX> dody: you refer to gyach?
[08:54] <dody> yes
[08:54] <JaseX> bazhang_: is gyach in the repository whatsoever?
[08:54] <bazhang_> JaseX, gyache? not sure
[08:54] <JaseX> I know how to compile it... but... that's useless for beginners really.
[08:54] <bazhang_> !info gyache
[08:54] <JaseX> !gyachi
[08:54] <bazhang_> info gyachi
[08:54] <JaseX> hmm
[08:54] <FAJ> is there anyone here to help me?
[08:55] <bazhang_> oops
[08:55] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  i am so sorry
[08:55] <FedererRoger> i have 2x of this http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/12/Sony_64GB_Memory_Vault.jpg
[08:55] <jeeves__> does anyone know why my system dosn't get past "dist_get _mac: mac address=xxxx"?
[08:55] <bazhang_> !info gyachi
[08:55] <FedererRoger> n00bs!!
[08:55] <ompaul> FedererRoger, be nice
[08:55] <jeeves__> does anyone know why my system dosn't get past "dist_get _mac: mac address=xxxx"?
[08:55] <amanu> brandonmpace: i m over that link
[08:55] <bazhang_> FedererRoger, you have gotten an answer. please cease and desist
[08:55] <FAJ> brandonmpace: its an atheros ar5416
[08:55] <dody> what site ubuntu indonesia?
[08:55] <JaseX> hmm
[08:55] <bazhang_> !id
[08:55] <brandonmpace> amanu: follow ALL of those directions and it will work
[08:56] <amanu> ok
[08:56] <bazhang_> dody, #ubuntu-id
[08:56] <FAJ> brandonmpace: did you get that?
[08:56] <dody> oh thank's
[08:56] <brandonmpace> FAJ: copy
[08:56] <FAJ> copy what?
[08:56] <JaseX> Hmm anyone have a tutorial on making deb packages for ubuntu?
[08:56] <bazhang_> !packaging
[08:56] <JaseX> I'd be willing to try my hand at making a deb package for gyachi
[08:57] <carmit_levi> hi
[08:57] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/48816/
[08:57] <chazco> Hi... anyone know the pros/cons of swapping totem-gstreamer for totem-xine (so I can play DVD images)?
[08:58] <Agent_bob> chazco i just use vlc
[08:58] <FAJ> brandonmpace: what now?
[08:59] <chazco> I'd rather not install lots of extra applications though... totem-gstreamer works for me except for DVD
[08:59] <bazhang_> vlc works great chazco
[08:59] <JaseX> okay maybe it isn't the brightest idea to be trying to learn to do this at 4 am eh bazhang_ ?
[08:59] <bazhang_> JaseX, :) get some sleep
[09:00] <ompaul> !away > Tizz
[09:00] <FedererRoger> i get the error "telnet: connect to address Connection refused" when i try to connect by IP, but then i try with 'localhost', it works, help!?
[09:00] <brandonmpace> FAJ: I´ll get right back to you
[09:00] <ompaul> !install > Cheeky
[09:00] <Tizz> !gofuck ompaul
[09:00] <JaseX> I would... but i'm upgrading my imac from debian etch to lenny to get it working for my mother.
[09:00] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  ok.
[09:00] <JaseX> that and trying to figure out this terminal problem.
[09:01] <chazco> bazhang_ - It might do, but i dont want lots of extra applications around... already had to install one for DVB, not another for DVD too
[09:01] <carmit_levi> i want higher program version then what the synaptic gives me what should i do?
[09:01] <carmit_levi> ububtuers?
[09:01] <JaseX> ... did the chanserv just deop you??
[09:01] <chazco> Tempted to just switch to KDE and use Kaffeine :)
[09:01] <JaseX> oh nevermind
[09:01] <Massiv0r> Can anyone confirm me that Lineage2 (Interlude Chronicle) isn't able to run @ wine even if the server has no gameguard?
[09:01] <JaseX> I missed it opping you.
[09:01] <FedererRoger> help?
[09:01] <brandonmpace> FAJ:  go here  and follow this, as your chipset is not fully supported yet, it is being worked on. you have an ar5008 main chipset, btw   http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_checkout_and_install_madwifi_experimental_driver_for_ar5008
[09:02] <JaseX> Massiv0r: I have almost gotten the game running once.
[09:02] <edo32mb> anyone able to help with setting up this Logitech USB mic...the links i seem to go to seem to all be down. -.-
[09:02] <Massiv0r> Jasex: what was your problem ?
[09:02] <JaseX> But the server i was using infact had no game guard.
[09:02] <Massiv0r> That way it was supposed to be running
[09:02] <JaseX> I forgot to finish the updates... and ever since, my wine hasn't worked.
[09:02] <brandonmpace> FAJ: I´m sure that 8.10 will work wonders for you as it adds a bunch of hardware support
[09:02] <amanu> how can i find weather my system is a 32 bit or 64 bit
[09:03] <amanu> one
[09:03] <Tenebrys> okay, this is odd.
[09:03] <JaseX> amanu.
[09:03] <JaseX> what processor do you have?
[09:03] <FAJ> brandonmpace: i just came from 8,10; it 'works' but it doesn't actually work
[09:03] <JaseX> Do you know @ amanu?
[09:03] <FedererRoger> i get the error "telnet: connect to address Connection refused" when i try to connect by IP, but then i try with 'localhost', it works, help!?
[09:03] <Tenebrys> Even the program on the Vista recovery console "bootrec.exe /fixmbr" said "the operation completed successfully" but upon bootup I still got grub error 17.
[09:03] <JaseX> FAJ 8.10 isn't finished, that's why :p
[09:03] <Massiv0r> JaseX: i could run it but it was freezing at Almost all cities (not some starting villages) everything else was working great... it was giving me some Errors "Fixme" smth @ terminal
[09:03] <FAJ> JaseX:  this is true....
[09:03] <brandonmpace> FAJ: that´s what I´m saying is that by release date it should work, but not yet lol
[09:03] <FAJ> lol ok.
[09:04] <amanu> do we have any command to know type of my processor
[09:04] <JaseX> I'm having a weird issue with the kernel i'm using faj... don't feel bad.
[09:04] <JaseX> Yes
[09:04] <edo32mb> is ubuntuforums.org down for anyone else?
[09:04] <brandonmpace> amanu do you want weather on your panel bar?
[09:04] <Tenebrys> Yeah, I can't get in.
[09:04] <Agent_bob> amanu cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:04] <brandonmpace> me neither
[09:04] <JaseX> @amanu try this
[09:04] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  trying directions; svn isn't working; clienterror; invalid parsing arguments
[09:05] <JaseX> sudo lshw -html > your-file-name.html
[09:05] <brandonmpace> FAJ:  sigh... computers
[09:05] <ompaul> FedererRoger, telnet works - I think you are trolling
[09:05] <FAJ> ya....
[09:05] <JaseX> It works wonders for me @ amanu
[09:05] <^Jimbo^> edo32mb: Yes
[09:05] <Tenebrys> Are there any other ways to fix up the master boot record other than the "bootrec.exe /fixmbr" program?  I just need to get grub out of there so I can boot normally again, do whatever it was I did to it in the first place.  I had used some kind of grub boot ISO to write it in.
[09:05] <FAJ> so what should i do brandonmpace ';)
[09:05] <JaseX> FAJ i've missed your problem... reinstate please?
[09:05] <amanu> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5250  @ 1.50GHz
[09:05] <amanu> is im claet?
[09:05] <FedererRoger> i get the error "telnet: connect to address Connection refused" when i try to connect by IP, but then i try with 'localhost', it works, help!?
[09:06] <amanu> sorry clear?
[09:06] <FAJ> hi can anyone help me with my wifi?  i followed these directions:  http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo to get the -ng madwifi drivers.. but it doesn't show up in my iwconfig. any help please, i am desparate
[09:06] <JaseX> that's 64 bit amanu
[09:06] <edo32mb> ^Jimbo^, thanks
[09:06] <JaseX> amanu you can safely run 64 bit code on your system
[09:06] <^Jimbo^> edo32mb: My pleasure
[09:06] <amanu> JaseX:but yesterday night i cant install fedora 64 bit
[09:06] <amanu> what may be reason
[09:06] <linuxonlinehelp_> to@ALL does anyone setup a PC Farm with "Bionic"?
[09:06] <JaseX> @amanu I have the same processor. the reason might be your SATA drives.
[09:06] <amanu> my college said may be ur proceesor wont support 64 bit
[09:06] <bazhang> amanu, ubuntu or fedora
[09:06] <brandonmpace> ok don´t follow their directions FAJ  but instead download this to your home directory and compile it  http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-trunk-current.tar.gz
[09:07] <edo32mb> anyone familiar with setting up Logitech USB mic?
[09:07] <ompaul> FedererRoger, telnet to what - which port etc
[09:07] <amanu> fedora
[09:07] <brandonmpace> FAJ: hopefully that works
[09:07] <JaseX> Your processor will amanu
[09:07] <JaseX> Try Ubuntu 64bit.
[09:07] <bazhang> amanu, best ask in #fedora for that
[09:07] <Tenebrys> So, yeah, I'm a little bit stuck, with a broken grub in my MBR apparently that prevents normal bootup.
[09:07] <amanu> JaseX:ok do u have same processor?
[09:07] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  sudo make sudo make install?
[09:07] <brandonmpace> edo32mb: that should work natively with ubuntu
[09:07] <bazhang> amanu, or try what JaseX said :)
[09:07] <amanu> bazhang:ok
[09:07] <JaseX> FAJ
[09:08] <JaseX> What wifi card do you have.
[09:08] <JaseX> amanu I do have same processor.
[09:08] <brandonmpace> FAJ: make         then make install
[09:08] <JaseX> Slightly faster version but same.
[09:08] <amanu> JaseX:may i know your harddisk?
[09:08] <Flynsarmy> Anyone here use gnome-mud 0.11?
[09:08] <edo32mb> brandonmpace, i had problems last time I installed ubuntu, and this time i'm having the same problems -> it recognizes it, but it doesn't work in audacity and or ventrilo (wine)
[09:08] <JaseX> amanu you wish to know my harddisk type? as in make and model?
[09:08] <FedererRoger> ompaul: to port 25
[09:08] <brandonmpace> edo32mb: are you using audacity in  wine also ?
[09:08] <amanu> yes
[09:09] <FedererRoger> ompaul: when i type telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 25   it rejects
[09:09] <edo32mb> no
[09:09] <amanu> i would like to check weather w have same type of hdd
[09:09] <FedererRoger> ompaul: when i type  telnet localhost 25, works perfectly
[09:09] <edo32mb> brandonmpace, i had audacity working outside of wine last time i had ubuntu installed
[09:09] <amanu> b coz i have a small problem with it
[09:09] <brandonmpace> edo32mb:  did you try going to system> preferences> sound and setting it up there?
[09:09] <FedererRoger> ompaul: no rules on iptables,   iptables --list    Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target     prot opt source               destination           Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target     prot opt source               destination           Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target     prot opt source               destination
[09:09] <edo32mb> brandonmpace, i had it all working, but i forgot exactly what i did O.o
[09:09] <FedererRoger> ompaul: HELP!!!
[09:09] <ompaul> FedererRoger, you installed a mail server?
[09:09] <franki^> amanu, i presume you mean whether, not weather :)
[09:10] <FedererRoger> ompaul: yes, it works perfectly with localhost, but not with IP
[09:10] <blinkiz> l
[09:10] <blinkiz> la
[09:10] <blinkiz> ls
[09:10] <blinkiz> oj
[09:10] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  after that what?
[09:10] <JaseX> amanu: I have WDC WD3200BEVT-6
[09:10] <amanu> franki^:im a little bit poor in english i hope i wont repeat same
[09:11] <linuxonlinehelp_> test
[09:11] <FedererRoger> ompaul: hello?
[09:11] <franki^> amanu, don't worry, i was just trying to be helpful :)
[09:11] <ompaul> FedererRoger, thinking
[09:11] <brandonmpace> FAJ: modprobe ath_pci
[09:11] <amanu> JaseX: ohh i cant get is urs sata hdd?
[09:11] <brandonmpace> FAJ:  sudo that
[09:11] <JaseX> amanu: It appears to be plain ATA
[09:11] <amanu> franki^:ok
[09:11] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  ok done, nothing shows up, just fyi goes to next line
[09:11] <x2o> hab irgendwie kein ton mehr in openarena seit dem pulseaudio läuft
[09:12] <amanu> JaseX:is sata different from ata?
[09:12] <JaseX> @amanu connected via SCSI
[09:12] <FAJ> !de
[09:12] <brandonmpace> yes now try to use wifi fah
[09:12] <ompaul> FedererRoger, use a pastebin and put in the settings from "ifconfig" please
[09:12] <brandonmpace> faj ^
[09:12] <amanu> scsi means?
[09:12] <bazhang> x2o, /join #ubuntu-de
[09:12] <JaseX> amanu that's where I become unsure
[09:12] <amanu> is urs a laptop r desktop?
[09:12] <FAJ> brandonmpace: only lo and eth0 show up in iwconifg...
[09:12] <JaseX> amanu: laptop
[09:12] <FAJ> *iwconfig
[09:12] <ompaul> JaseX, please don't use the @ when people use nicks it works just as well
[09:12] <amanu> company?
[09:13] <JaseX> amanu: I apologize for any help I cannot provide I am very tired.
[09:13] <JaseX> amanu: HP
[09:13] <amanu> ok
[09:13] <JaseX> Sorry ompaul It's a bad habit.
[09:13] <FAJ> should i ndiswrapper it?
[09:13] <JaseX> I am trying to break it I promise.
[09:13] <brandonmpace> FAJ: google how to blacklist ath5k   and also     follow their directions here starting at ¨if you´re using debian ¨ http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_checkout_and_install_madwifi_experimental_driver_for_ar5008
[09:13] <ompaul> JaseX, ;-) one worth breaking :-)
[09:13] <JaseX> ompaul: quite. I concur
[09:15] <JaseX> I have a question about the testing kernel.... 2.26.27... if anyone has a clue...
[09:15] <onno> hai
[09:16] <plovs> how can i show an xterm on a remote screen i am logged in to over ssh?
[09:16] <plovs> like a fancy remote control
[09:16] <JaseX> Heh, my imac is reporting that it's from 1904-01-01
[09:17] <JaseX> plovs are you tunneling x over ssh?
[09:17] <JaseX> or just pure ssh?
[09:17] <plovs> just ssh, but i suppose it is possible to do either using DISPLAY
[09:17] <plovs> i am just missing someting
[09:18] <plovs> JaseX: bios-battery empty?
[09:18] <JaseX> plovs: well if you're doing ssh localhost for isntance, you'd automatically be connected to a terminal.
[09:18] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  it didn't create any new wifi/ath0 in ifconfig
[09:18] <plovs> yes but i want to run apps on the remote machine (mplayer)
[09:18] <JaseX> ...
[09:18] <cumknot> moinsen
[09:18] <JaseX> you'd have to tunnel x over ssh
[09:19] <JaseX> or you could just use vino combined with vinagre
[09:19] <plovs> then i get it on my laptop, not my desktop i am trying to get it to show on
[09:19] <JaseX> It's what I use.
[09:19] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  following troubleshoot; there is nothing under ifconfig -a either
[09:19] <brandonmpace> FAJ: hmm i´m still thinking.   I know you don´t exactly want to wait til the 30th of october lol
[09:19] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  ummm ya lol
[09:19] <FAJ> i could try ndiswrapper?
[09:19] <JaseX> plovs, try vinagre... if you have vino already running on your desktop.
[09:19] <plovs> JaseX: ok  ... looking
[09:19] <JaseX> plovs: if not run vino-preferences on your desktop
[09:20] <Massiv0r> Can anyone confirm me that Lineage2 (Interlude Chronicle) isn't able to run @ wine even if the server has no gameguard?
[09:20] <JaseX> plovs: and set it up accordingly... on my laptop just to let you know, I had to set my desktop to allow connections from more than just local.
[09:20] <mistform> gah
[09:20] <brandonmpace> FAJ: yes you can
[09:20] <JaseX> plovs: meaning I unchecked allow local connections only.
[09:20] <brandonmpace> FAJ: why not?
[09:20] <alexcamilo> smartk
[09:21] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  ok,,,,
[09:21] <plovs> JaseX: ah, vino is vnc, i want to watch a movie on the remote box, will be to slow
[09:21] <plovs> what i want is use my laptop as a remote control for my desktop where i run mplayer to show a movie
[09:21] <JaseX> well you could always just stream the media...
[09:22] <JaseX> Well I start movies and youtube all the time on my desktop... and just minimize vinagre on my laptop...
[09:22] <alexcamilo> Hello, i'm having a problem with a new install of ubuntu. i have an nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 agp and when i go to retricted drivers to select the nvidia driver it is checked but not in use.
[09:22] <JaseX> I am really lazy plovs
[09:22] <brandonmpace> plovs: VLC can stream media over a nework,  just click file> wizard
[09:22] <airtonix> plovs, try using ssh with x forwarding to run vlc which is set to output on a second screen at the server
[09:22] <alexcamilo> i'm currently running a system update but i don't know if that will do it.
[09:23] <JaseX> alexcamilo: I had that issue with my desktop using similar card, you will have to get the legacy driver from nvidia themselfs AFAIK
[09:23] <mistform> how do I get my bluetooth device working? it's a PCI card, but the bluetooth comes off into a USB2, which is plugged into the motherboard
[09:23] <alexcamilo> apt-get? or download& compile
[09:23] <mistform> what command do i used to detect it?
[09:23] <brandonmpace> alexcamilo: go to System>administration>hardwar drivers
[09:23] <JaseX> if you want a runthrough on how to do that, that is if you're comfortable with the command line... message me privately.
[09:23] <Agent_bob> lsusb
[09:23] <JaseX> brandonmpace: I have a similar graphics card and I had to use the nvidia-legacy drivers.
[09:24] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  it says that it is connected through ndiswrapper; any way to test it lol
[09:24] <JaseX> He said it was checked but not working.
[09:24] <brandonmpace> JaseX: I have that EXACT video card right in front of me
[09:24] <alexcamilo> dell optiplex?
[09:24] <alexcamilo> lol
[09:24] <JaseX> brandonmpace: well I'll let you have this one then :D mine's a slightly different model, and all I know is enabling restricted drivers would not work for me.
[09:25] <Massiv0r> Can anyone confirm me that Lineage2 (Interlude Chronicle) isn't able to run @ wine even if the server has no gameguard?
[09:25] <C0R3-X> Guys, how to run .msi files with wine??? :/
[09:25] <FAJ> test
[09:25] <FAJ> brandonmpace:  did you get that?
[09:25] <brandonmpace> alexcamilo: nope.  you do need to go and install    using add/remove the nvidia-legacy package
[09:25] <brandonmpace> FAJ: yes
[09:25] <alexcamilo> ah cool
[09:25] <alexcamilo> awesome
[09:26] <mistform> Massiv0r, i was able to run lineage 2before, but I haven't run the game in at least 6 mo.
[09:26] <JaseX> Anyone want to take a crack at my kernel problem?
[09:26] <Massiv0r> Mistform: which Ubuntu version you have being using?
[09:26] <brandonmpace> FAJ: you can left click on the network manager in the top right of the screen and see if any networks show up
[09:27] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: are you trying to use wine?
[09:28] <jlee>
[09:28] <JaseX> Massiv0r: I can report success in running lineage 2 in virtual box with a winxp guest
[09:28] <JaseX> but that's to be expected.
[09:28] <JaseX> If your computer is up to par, it should handle it.
[09:28] <Massiv0r> brandonmpace: yes i even succesfulled installed Direct X and games like cod2 were Running Great even @ Multiplayer
[09:28] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: try getting the latest wine from http://www.winehq.org/
[09:29] <mistform> Massiv0r, it was feisty last time, i tihnk
[09:29] <C0R3-X> Guys, how to run .msi files with wine?
[09:29] <Massiv0r> brandonmpace: i did used Latest,the problem is that it was stucking at some Areas (outside) and almost all Major Cities and was Freezing before even Login,i could thought play at Starting villages but i have 77 lvl character @ x7 rates server :/
[09:30] <brandonmpace> C0R3-X: you will need the cabextract package and there is a command for it. google wine msi
[09:30] <C0R3-X> ok
[09:30] <rblst> how can i get my microphone input to work with an 82801H HD sound card in Hardy?
[09:31] <Massiv0r> mistform: yes i know 9.50 smth Wine was running great L2 but on 8.04 i just can't install 9.50 Version so it doesn't work properly
[09:31] <brandonmpace> rblst: set it up using system>preferences>sound
[09:31] <JaseX> man i had a spiffy idea for a macbook... but i don't know if colorware will do it.
[09:31] <Massiv0r> Jasex: you mean with good fps or just running? you was able to play at an kinda olc pc?
[09:32] <JaseX> Massiv0r: I got good response.
[09:32] <JaseX> with compiz disabled and nothing running in ubuntu Massiv0r
[09:32] <Massiv0r> Jasex: what were your computer Specifications?
[09:32] <JaseX> just virtualbox and windowsxp guest
[09:32] <mistform> Massiv0r, do you have the newest version of wine?
[09:33] <JaseX> Intel Duo Core 1.83ghz 3 gigs ram nvidia 8600 ms
[09:33] <Massiv0r> mistoform: yes i did (1.1.5)
[09:34] <Massiv0r> Jasex: lol mine is like a p4 @ 2.8ghz ht,1gb ram,nviida 7600gs only
[09:34] <Massiv0r> Jasex: i wouldn't even be able to open the Client
[09:34] <mistform> Massiv0r, my p4stock at2.4.
[09:34] <rblst> brandonmpace: i cannot see any recording settings there
[09:34] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: that should run it if you use virtualbox with a winxp guest
[09:35] <ZKAT8IT> does 3d even work with ati cards? or only a select few?
[09:35] <brandonmpace> rblst: under Audio Conferencing.   Sound Capture:
[09:35] <mistform> ZKAT8IT, most cards.
[09:35] <JaseX> brandonmpace: thanks was about to type that to Massiv0r
[09:35] <brandonmpace> lol
[09:35] <Massiv0r> brandonmpace: i would prefer running at Ubuntu so i had better results
[09:35] <JaseX> I'm becoming increasingly more and more rundown.
[09:35] <ZKAT8IT> im having trouble getting it to work with the x1650
[09:35] <brandonmpace> Your machine can handle it I promise
[09:36] <JaseX> Massiv0r: he's right.
[09:36] <brandonmpace> ZKAT8IT: is that in a laptop?
[09:36] <Massiv0r> guys the server i play has like 3k ppl online and i have to pariticipate at Sieges and Raids :/
[09:36] <JaseX> Windows XP does not run as sloppily in virtualbox as natively.
[09:36] <ZKAT8IT> if i enable the 3d, when it reboots ubuntu loads but then the screen goes black before i get t the login screen
[09:36] <ZKAT8IT> brandonmpace: desktop
[09:36] <JaseX> Massiv0r: just try, if it doesn't work to par, you can hate me all you want.
[09:36] <JaseX> It is a perfect option...
[09:36] <JaseX> and one worth trying.
[09:37] <brandonmpace> ZKAT8IT: If you wait until 8.10 I´m sure the final release will have better support for this
[09:37] <Massiv0r> You are sure i will have good Results?
[09:37] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: as good as wine would most likely give you
[09:37] <ZKAT8IT> how long will that be?
[09:37] <rblst> <brandonmpace: ah, tricky, thanx, i'll play around with that
[09:37] <brandonmpace> ZKAT8IT: october 30
[09:37] <Massiv0r> Great,now how can i setup a Virtual Box?
[09:37] <JaseX> Let's put it this way Massiv0r I can run perfect world, and world of warcraft just fine
[09:37] <brandonmpace> rblst: you´re welcome
[09:37] <ZKAT8IT> will it be as simple as an apt-get update?
[09:37] <JaseX> Massiv0r: I'd recommend the version from virtualbox.org
[09:37] <Massiv0r> your pc is uber mine is like "retarded"
[09:38] <JaseX> or you could try the repository one.
[09:38] <Massiv0r> Jasex: anyway i mean i need to install Full winxp at my linux hd?
[09:38] <brandonmpace> ZKAT8IT: your update popup will tell you that there is a distro upgrade available
[09:38] <JaseX> sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[09:38] <JaseX> I think
[09:38] <JaseX> Massiv0r: yes, but in a virtual file...
[09:38] <ZKAT8IT> ok, thanks brandonmpace
[09:39] <Massiv0r> can i do that at another HD ? cause my main linux one has low size
[09:39] <JaseX> Massiv0r: you will more than likely need only to spare 12 gigs to  avirtual hard drive... probably 8 or 10
[09:39] <brandonmpace> ZKAT8IT: a fresh install is recommended though to avoid possible problems
[09:39] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: yes
[09:39] <JaseX> Massiv0r: I believe so, as long as that HD is accessible by linux already
[09:39] <brandonmpace> as jasex said
[09:39] <ZKAT8IT> lol, ive already fresh installed like 5 times in the past 6 hours trying to get this driver working
[09:39] <Massiv0r> it's ntfs type with 80gb and another one with 65gb
[09:39] <brandonmpace> lol fun i know
[09:39] <JaseX> ZKAT8IT: what are you having issues with?
[09:39] <C0R3-X> guys, about that .msi installing, the code is this - "msiexec /i fileinstaller.msi" , but where i should place my .msi file to run it with this code?
[09:40] <C0R3-X> on desktop?
[09:40] <brandonmpace> JaseX: hardware incompatibility
[09:40] <ZKAT8IT> trying to get an ATI Radeon x1650 working with 3d support
[09:40] <_moro_bana_>  hello, when i boot into my freshly installed debian, i get this  /bin/sh: cant access tty;job control turned off. it cant lauch the desktop. help
[09:40] <JaseX> .... ZKAT8IT envyng-gtk doesn't handle that?
[09:40] <Massiv0r> ZKAT8iT i had exactly the same problem,it's hardware as they said,wait till next ubuntu release just
[09:41] <DuKeS> hello everyone, i just recently installed ubuntu in a dual boot with winxp and i would like the default option for OS to be windows instead of ubuntu. How do i change that in the grub menu?
[09:41] <ZKAT8IT> meh, guess ill wait, was hoping never needing to touch the thing again
[09:41] <Massiv0r> but guys with Virtual Box i can have 3D Acceleration Enabled ?
[09:42] <jim_p> Massiv0r: nope
[09:42] <JaseX> dukes install startupmanager
[09:42] <plovs> C0R3-X: puth the file in your $PATH, best in the directory you are running wine from
[09:42] <Massiv0r> it can also be your Nvidia drivers by the way
[09:42] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:42] <C0R3-X> ok
[09:42] <Massiv0r> so if jim_p is right,i won't be able to play games at Virtual Box
[09:42] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: find the default and count from 0 until you get to the windows option if you want that
[09:42] <jim_p> Massiv0r: you wont. vbox relies on virtual hardware
[09:42] <JaseX> Massiv0r: 3D acceleration is kind of unnecessary for Lineage anyways. If you were running in wine, it wouldn't help much anyways
[09:43] <HappyHater> if gaming is that much of a priority, dual boot
[09:43] <FedererRoger> How to make seamsly mode in Virtualbox work with my 4 Monitors of 24 inches??
[09:43] <brandonmpace> lol
[09:43] <Massiv0r> whats the use of all of em? massive pr0n ?
[09:43] <JaseX> FedererRoger: just fullscreen it if ubuntu is already setup for your "4monitors of 24 inches"
[09:43] <DuKeS> brandonmpace: what exactly am i looking for? sorry im very new to this :P
[09:44] <jim_p> FedererRoger: do you have your desktop expanded in all 4 screens?
[09:44] <FedererRoger> Yes its all expanded
[09:44] <JaseX> brandonmpace: in DuKeS case I believe startupmanager would help, as it allows setting the default option quite easily.
[09:44] <FedererRoger> But virtualbox seamsly mode hungs
[09:44] <brandonmpace> yea but he may have already finished..
[09:44] <C0R3-X> err:msi:copy_package_to_temp failed to copy package L - failed =[
[09:45] <ZKAT8IT> does grub need to point to ntldr for winxp to boot? or can i just have grub point to the windows partitions and xp will launch from that? cause i have a missing ntldr right now when i try booting
[09:45] <DuKeS> nope :p im not sure what i'm looking for
[09:45] <JaseX> DuKes try this.
[09:45] <brandonmpace> FedererRoger: then don´t use it
[09:45] <JaseX> sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[09:45] <DrDigital> I need to be able to access http://<IP_ADDRESS> on this system and have someone outside my network from the internet use vnc to come into my computer and use the  intranet ip address
[09:45] <JaseX> or look for it in synaptic
[09:45] <DrDigital> its for a web interface on a network device
[09:45] <FedererRoger> I want to use IT!!!!
[09:45] <DuKeS> kk gimme a sec
[09:46] <JaseX> pmanager'
[09:46] <JaseX> Dukes then once you have it installed from command line you could do sudo startupmanager or from alt+f2 launch application 'gksu startupmanager'
[09:47] <JaseX> Awesome to have anyways because once you get used to ubuntu, it comes in handy sometimes.
[09:48] <FedererRoger> this is similar to my desktop http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2008/03/04/amd_780g_chipset/amd_780g___5120_pixel_desktop.jpg
[09:48] <JaseX> I have the most annoying bash script for my computer.
[09:48] <DuKeS> dude that program is so helpful thanks! :)
[09:48] <ompaul> FedererRoger, happy hacking you never answered my question so I guess I have to call you a troll
[09:48] <FedererRoger> what question?
[09:49] <ompaul> the ifconfig in a pastebin
[09:49] <Massiv0r> Does anyone can decrypt some wine Errors that spikes when im running lineage2 ?
[09:49] <JaseX> DuKeS: You are quite welcome, glad that I actually helped someone...
[09:49] <FedererRoger> ompaul: ahhh sorry i missed... but i resolved.. was a postfix issue
[09:49] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: you could try googling them
[09:49] <DuKeS> lol cant believe it was so easy
[09:49] <ompaul> FedererRoger, well I suggest you do that for your four monitors
[09:49] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: lol yea I forgot about that
[09:50] <DuKeS> :P
[09:50] <JaseX> DuKeS: somethings are, somethings aren't... this was one of the few things that have actually been made easier for beginners.
[09:50] <FedererRoger> now i need to find a solution for the virtualbox + ubuntu bug
[09:50] <Kasra[K]> hi all
[09:50] <Kasra[K]> is the ubuntuforums server down?
[09:50] <DuKeS> oh i know
[09:50] <JaseX> When ubuntu finally reaches where it wants to be, it aims to be plausible in every aspect of computing.
[09:50] <brandonmpace> lol JaseX the reason i thought of editing the actual file first is cause I´m old school
[09:50] <JaseX> DuKeS: welcome to the long haul.
[09:50] <DuKeS> i've been trying to figure out my video playback...for some reason it's choppy in all players :S
[09:51] <Massiv0r> brandonmpace: thanks indeed they are shown as bugs
[09:51] <brandonmpace> :D
[09:51] <JaseX> brandonmpace: I do that too, but I keep some tricks up my sleeves to aid beginners.
[09:51] <jin> DuKeS, do you have drivers installed for your gfx card?
[09:51] <Kasra[K]> when will it fix?
[09:51] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: :D happy hunting
[09:51] <mistform> DuKeS, sometimes it's a hardware problem. Is your PSU stable?
[09:51] <DuKeS> lol thanx...it'll take me a bit of time to get used to ubuntu enough to ditch windows for the most part
[09:51] <vampur> hello every one
[09:51] <XB23> hey guys how do i view a quota in ubuntu
[09:52] <XB23> and how much of a quota is been used
[09:52] <JaseX> DuKeS: I don't blame you. but once you learn a bit more about it... I am sure you'll be happy to be free of the atrocity known as MSBob ;)
[09:52] <Massiv0r> brandonmpace: thanks but i don't see any solution =/
[09:52] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: lol I´ve been doing this for four years and Linux has come a long way. Believe me, a loooong way
[09:52] <JaseX> Massiv0r: if you have windows why not use that.
[09:52] <DuKeS> JaseX: hehe yeah
[09:53] <JaseX> DuKeS: what brandonmpace says is correct, I've been using it for just about the same....
[09:53] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: k well did you see anything about anyone workin on the issue?
[09:53] <FedererRoger> if you pay for Ubuntu you can always reclaim support
[09:53] <DuKeS> oh i know...before i used to be one of the people who heard linux and would instantly associate it with either hackers or geeks:P
[09:53] <JaseX> DuKeS: well... it technically is hacking... taking something, ripping it apart, and making it better :D
[09:53] <Massiv0r> brandnmpace: nope only that ppl after 7.10 say that it isn't working properly (cause of wine)
[09:54] <DuKeS> u know what i mean though :)
[09:54] <JaseX> DuKeS: hacking really has a bad name due to the media...
[09:54] <Massiv0r> i dont feel like wasting 10 gb + 6-7 for l2 just for having Windows,that's why i use Ubuntu
[09:54] <vampur> could i have a small favour as i have installed linux in windows and for some time it was working well now i m having a prob with the pannels the both pannels are gone some hwere how can i restore them thnk you
[09:54] <brandonmpace> Massiv0r: well maybe you should find somewhere to put your say in that it needs to be fixed :)
[09:55] <Massiv0r> brandonmpace: none would confirm it cause very few people play lineage and use Linux,there are enough bug reports but none mod cares
[09:55] <JaseX> This channel makes me feel almost heroic, and makes me want to chainsmoke whilst shivering.
[09:55] <brandonmpace> lol I would
[09:55] <brandonmpace> that´s no fun :(
[09:55] <JaseX> vampur, is english your native language?
[09:56] <vampur> not really
[09:56] <DrDigital> so no one here knows how to do what i need?
[09:56] <JaseX> I am having a hard time understanding you, what do you speak?
[09:56] <DuKeS> hey regarding my choppy video playback...i've installed the nvidia drivers with envy and it seems to work fine because i can choose all my monitor's resolutions and effects work fine...video on the other hand (.avi) seems to have this low resolution and a weird line in the middle of the screen
[09:56] <bazhang> !resetpanels
[09:56] <brandonmpace> DrDigital: what is your problem?
[09:56] <Massiv0r> Jasex: he probably means he installed Wubi smth (Windows installer for ubuntu)
[09:56] <fdr> hi! Is it possible to burn a DVD with some files, and a later time add some more to it? how do I do that? Thank you!
[09:57] <DrDigital> i have 2 networks on 1 computer, i want to allow someone to vnc from the internet into one
[09:57] <JaseX> fdr, you would want to leave the session open rather than closing it.
[09:57] <DrDigital> and use the other to access a web interface
[09:57] <TiMiDo> !google tmsnc
[09:57] <DrDigital> almost like a vpn, but all graphical
[09:57] <vampur> jasex what i am asking is that some how i messed up with the panels and now i am not able to restore them so is there any way out so i can get the panels back
[09:58] <DrDigital> they are using vnc to teach me how to do it myself
[09:58] <brandonmpace> !vnc | DrDigital
[09:58] <JaseX> !resetpanels | vampur
[09:58] <jin> my firefox crashes alot when there are sites opened that are using flash. :(
[09:58] <DrDigital> vnc isnty the issue
[09:58] <vampur> but dear i am not geting the terminal window too
[09:58] <fdr> JaseX, thanks, I guessed it was something like that... so I guess my questions now are: 1) can I leave the session open using the burner that is integrated with nautilus? 2) how do I "import" the old session to add files to it? thx
[09:58] <nevagonnagiveuup> how much space should I set aside for ubuntu as a minimum?
[09:58] <DrDigital> i have internet, they can connect into my system
[09:58] <JaseX> ah.
[09:58] <Massiv0r> ahh
[09:58] <brandonmpace> hmm
[09:58] <JaseX> fdr I am unsure as I use Brasero.
[09:58] <DrDigital> i cant access http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:58] <Massiv0r> Vampu: you should add applications applet
[09:59] <DrDigital> because its using the wrong NIC
[09:59] <JaseX> vampur try hitting alt+ctrl+f2
[09:59] <vampur> please pardon me massivor
[09:59] <JaseX> that should get you a terminal
[09:59] <fdr> JaseX, in other words, are you confirming me that with Brasero it's possible?
[09:59] <DuKeS> hey can anyone help with the video display problem? i'd highly appreciate it since it's one of the main reasons i go back to windows, to watch movies :S
[09:59] <JaseX> to return it's ctrl+alt+F7
[09:59] <JaseX> fdr, it should be... let me check.
[10:00] <fdr> JaseX, yup, it should, i just checked the package description :)
[10:00] <jimbobot__> what do people use as a substitute for tortoise-svn on ubuntu?
[10:00] <XB23> guys in requota does it tell me the quota used and the max quota?
[10:00] <JaseX> yes
[10:00] <JaseX> it does
[10:00] <JaseX> I just checked
[10:00] <JeePee> Whats the program to control desktop effects/compiz?
[10:00] <JaseX> fdr it has an option to leave the disk open
[10:00] <fdr> JaseX, thanks for your helping, i'm going to install it. Thanks!
[10:00] <JaseX> JeePee: that would be ccsm
[10:01] <JaseX> fdr quite welcome, I hope it works as expected.
[10:01] <edo32mb> has the alsa-project moved?
[10:01] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: what is your video chipset?
[10:01] <zm1fg> hi
[10:01] <JaseX> hello zm1fg
[10:02] <DuKeS> brandonmpace: it's a nforce 2 chipset motherboard with integrated graphics...geforce 4M 64mb
[10:02] <JaseX> AHAH brandonmpace that's what I have.
[10:02] <brandonmpace> JeePee: do   sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm
[10:02] <DuKeS> it's a fairly old computer im on but i thought it'd run ubuntu without a problem
[10:02] <vampur> ! reset panel
[10:02] <JaseX> DuKeS:  my desktop has that same setup.
[10:02] <uriol> hi
[10:02] <JeePee> Thanks
[10:02] <uriol> good morning
[10:02] <JaseX> DuKeS: amount of memory?
[10:02] <uriol> i have a problem
[10:02] <JaseX> DuKeS:  i mean computer wise.
[10:03] <DuKeS> 512MB DDR
[10:03] <jim_p> hih uriol
[10:03] <ompaul> nevagonnagiveuup, minimum is speced on www.ubuntu.com to make it kind of useful I suggest at least 15 gigs
[10:03] <JaseX> !resetpanel | vampur
[10:03] <uriol> i had installed mistakenly system ubuntu on a removable hard disk
[10:03] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: you need to install nvidia-legacy using  add/remove
[10:03] <JaseX> Hmm
[10:03] <Blinkiz> Hello. I can see that dependences for python2.5-dev package can't be meet in the repository. More people having problems that I have?
[10:03] <uriol> and i need to duplicate it on a internal hard disk
[10:03] <uriol> how i have to do
[10:03] <XB23> cheekyirc -- 87224 250M 250M 2545 0 0 - can anyone translate to me what each block is
[10:03] <XB23> on repquota
[10:03] <DuKeS> brandonmpace: well i already got the drivers for it using envy
[10:03] <JaseX> DuKeS: You will need nvidia-legacy as brandonmpace has mentioned.
[10:03] <DuKeS> yeah i got that JaseZX
[10:03] <JaseX> brandonmpace: does nvidia-legacy include nvidia-xconfig?
[10:03] <DuKeS> oops JaseX*
[10:04] <uriol> i had installed mistakenly system ubuntu on a removable hard disk
[10:04] <jim_p> uriol: is the system installd there? like... settings drivers and stuff?
[10:04] <uriol> how can i duplicate system for example on d: disk
[10:04] <uriol> yes
[10:04] <DrDigital> alright  i guess im gonna go to bed and ask again in the morning since no one seems to know the solution
[10:04] <blak> Can anyone tell me how I force ntp to synchronize?
[10:04] <uriol> on a lacie external disk
[10:04] <DuKeS> as i mentioned, everything works fine, effects, resolutions on my monitor...the only thing i cant get to work right is the video
[10:04] <JaseX> brandonmpace: you alive friend?
[10:04] <vampur> dear jasex do i have to place << mark also as em a newbie
[10:05] <JaseX> no vampur
[10:05] <JaseX> Not necessary.
[10:05] <DuKeS> i love VLC media player and that's what i use for video but even that is having a bit of problem displaying the video without problems
[10:05] <brandonmpace> JaseX: I´m not sure
[10:05] <JaseX> DuKeS: try going to a terminal.... and typing sudo nvidia-xconfig for me?
[10:05] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> curious to know, is it possible to use the Resize plugin for non-focused windows?
[10:05] <brandonmpace> brb
[10:06] <uriol> jim_p ?
[10:06] <DuKeS> JaseX: ok did that
[10:06] <uriol> do you know how to do it ?
[10:06] <vampur> thnk you dear
[10:06] <JaseX> did anything come up?
[10:06] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> basically to shrink all the non-focused window to about 1/6 the screen size?
[10:06] <JaseX> Or did it say "command not found" DuKeS
[10:06] <JaseX> vampur: welcome.
[10:06] <Chiarina> ciao
[10:06] <Chiarina> !list
[10:06] <jim_p> uriol: i have pm you
[10:06] <DuKeS> JaseX: Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[10:06] <DuKeS> WARNING: The CorePointer device was not specified explicitly in the layout;
[10:06] <DuKeS>          using the first mouse device.
[10:06] <DuKeS> WARNING: The CoreKeyboard device was not specified explicitly in the layout;
[10:06] <DuKeS>          using the first keyboard device.
[10:06] <DuKeS> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[10:06] <DuKeS> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:06] <DuKeS> thats what came up
[10:07] <JaseX> DuKeS: alright this will log you out and restart your xserver.
[10:07] <JaseX> DuKeS:  hit ctrl+alt+backspace and relogin and rejoin the chat
[10:07] <blak> How can i check if the ntp synchronization i setup is actually working?
[10:07] <edo32mb> has alsa project moved from alsa-project.org?
[10:07] <DuKeS> ok
[10:07] <JaseX> DuKeS: see if that doesn't make a bit of difference.
[10:07] <liftoff> Hi - Is there a Channel for Ubuntu run on Asus Eee notebook?
[10:07] <kdhf> is it me or are the ubuntuforums not working.
[10:08] <JaseX> kdhf: it's not you.
[10:08] <kdhf> could anyone tell me how to get the sierra wireless aircard 580 working on ubuntu
[10:08] <JaseX> DuKeS also try running the video without compiz effects turned on if that didn't help
[10:08] <JaseX> but try the video first.
[10:09] <jim_p> kdhf: do an lspci to help us please!
[10:09] <DuKeS> sorry i already backed out...i just got back in:p
[10:09] <mistform> hey, what package should I use to bluetooth stuff to my phone?
[10:09] <DuKeS> repeat what u said :P
[10:09] <brandonmpace> back
[10:09] <JaseX> DuKeS:  :D I noticed
[10:09] <vampur> is there any downloadable deb file for wine software as i can use this tool for other system by same download
[10:09] <mrynit> my wifi has stopped working. it doesnt matter what AP i try to connect to it doesnt work. using a live cd i can get internet access with wifi
[10:09] <JaseX> Try a video now DuKeS
[10:09] <JaseX> vampur i'm not sure
[10:09] <JaseX> !wine
[10:09] <DuKeS> u mean without the effects?
[10:09] <JaseX> No just in general DuKeS
[10:09] <brandonmpace> mistform: go to add/remove and look up bluetooth,      then install bluetooth file sharing
[10:09] <DuKeS> ok
[10:10] <brandonmpace> mistform: after you do that to run it it is in the accessories menu
[10:10] <JaseX> DuKeS: you should be fine now... but I may be mistaken.
[10:11] <JaseX> How does it work DuKeS ?
[10:11] <DuKeS> JaseX: seems to be working fine...but it does that sometimes and when theres a fast moving scene or something usually gets choppy
[10:12] <DuKeS> trying to look for some action sequence or something lol
[10:12] <JaseX> In my experience I try to disable compiz while watching a movie on my desktop or it does tend to get a bit choppy.
[10:12] <ariel_> hey people :) i have a problem with my apache2
[10:12] <blak> Does anyone here know how to check to make sure that ntp is actually working correctly? I tried ntpq, but i cant verify that it is actually connecting and syncing??
[10:12] <C0R3-X> how to add to ur user a superuser privilegies?
[10:12] <JaseX> As I said I have the same cardset on my desktop DuKeS so I know where you're coming from with the choppiness.
[10:13] <DuKeS> JaseX: i'll try it like that
[10:13] <brandonmpace> C0R3-X: there is a reason there is sudo lol
[10:13] <IalexI> Hi.. I would like to install a AVM Fritzcard PCI in my hardy system. I have already installed the restricted modules. I am receiving the following error message: http://rafb.net/p/m0EA1w96.html
[10:13] <DuKeS> it seems to be working though
[10:13] <JaseX> :D
[10:13] <DuKeS> but i didnt chance anything :| weird
[10:13] <DuKeS> lol
[10:13] <ariel_> can someone help me with apache?
[10:13] <DuKeS> change*
[10:13] <JaseX> What processor do you have.
[10:13] <JaseX> You did change somethign if it's working.
[10:13] <enos76> hello. please where are the GTK headers in Ubuntu?
[10:13] <C0R3-X> oh
[10:13] <brandonmpace> C0R3-X: if you need to browse, delete, or copy files as root, just use     sudo nautilus
[10:13] <JaseX> You changed your xorg.conf to work with your hardware :D
[10:14] <JaseX> with that command.
[10:14] <DuKeS> JaseXL it's a fairly old computer...i got an AMD Athlon XP 3200+
[10:14] <JaseX> I find I -have- to run nvidia-xconfig.
[10:14] <JaseX> DuKeS: 64bit do you know?
[10:14] <DuKeS> OHHHH that command u gave me i forgot how it goes:P it made a backup of my xorg.conf file?
[10:14] <ompaul> ariel_, so you been around long enough ask the full question
[10:15] <JaseX> I have the same processor as well... 64 bit, running 64bit ubuntu on it.
[10:15] <DuKeS> and no its not 64bit
[10:15] <JaseX> Yes it made a backup.
[10:15] <JaseX> And re-wrote it.
[10:15] <vampur> dear jasex that panel work not done
[10:15] <DuKeS> ah
[10:15] <JaseX> are you sure DuKeS ?
[10:15] <vampur> it says command not found
[10:15] <C0R3-X> Well, im getting this error, while realoading source list
[10:15] <C0R3-X> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:15] <C0R3-X> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[10:15] <JaseX> hmm then I am not sure vampur... what is your native language
[10:15] <vampur> hindi
[10:16] <vampur> indian
[10:16] <JaseX> DuKeS: run this in terminal...
[10:16] <DuKeS> yeah im 99% sure JaseX. It's a desktop with about 4-5 years came with winxp Home
[10:16] <JaseX> brandonmpace: what's the channel for hindi?
[10:16] <blak> does anyone know how to query ntp?
[10:16] <JaseX> DuKeS: so did mine, I was surprised to find out it was 64bit...
[10:16] <brandonmpace> JaseX: I´m not sure i´ll go look
[10:16] <DuKeS> oh lol then im not sure now:P
[10:16] <samphippen> http://www.flickr.com/photos/18082435@N00/2873701062/
[10:16] <samphippen> how awesome is this??
[10:17] <ariel_> ok. i installed apache2 and php5 and the lib, just like it is written in ubuntu official LAMP server installation. but after i created a test.php with phpinfo(); inside, the browser tries to d/l the file instead of showing it.
[10:17] <JaseX> DuKeS: will you run something for me.
[10:17] <DuKeS> yeh
[10:17] <JaseX> go to a terminal and enter this command 'sudo lshw -html >> ~/Desktop/cpuinfo.html'
[10:17] <brandonmpace> vampur: which country is the country of your native language?
[10:17] <JaseX> They said Indian/Hindi brandonmpace
[10:18] <vampur> india and my language is hindi
[10:18] <JaseX> !india
[10:18] <JaseX> Hmm
[10:18] <brandonmpace> vampur: #ubuntu-in
[10:18] <DuKeS> JaseX that didnt seem to do anything
[10:18] <JaseX> DuKeS:  check your desktop
[10:18] <JaseX> :D
[10:18] <JaseX> should  be an html file there now.
[10:18] <DuKeS> ah lol
[10:18] <DuKeS> doh:P
[10:18] <JaseX> Open it and look for a section that says id: cpu
[10:18] <brandonmpace> JaseX: lol took care of vamp
[10:19] <blak> thanks for all the help
[10:19] <JaseX> and look in the width area
[10:19] <JaseX> brandonmpace: thanks :D
[10:19] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: hey man;i didit
[10:19] <brandonmpace> Cheeky:  ?
[10:19] <DuKeS> JaseX: width 32bits
[10:19] <ariel_> someone saw my problem?
[10:19] <DuKeS> told ya:p
[10:19] <JaseX> Hmm
[10:19] <JaseX> that means nothing... as my computer said thirty two bits with 32bit ubuntu installed
[10:20] <JaseX> You could try the 64bit live cd, and then that will confirm
[10:20] <brandonmpace> ariel_: what´s your problem?
[10:20] <JaseX> look at capabilities DuKeS
[10:20] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: i installed it on the HDD of my old .. machine by connecting it tomy current machine and installed server on it and then swappedit back (the HDD with server) on the p2 266 mhz machine
[10:20] <DuKeS> if my cpu is not 64bit it wont run the live cd then?
[10:20] <JaseX> does it say x86-64 somewhere in capabilities.
[10:20] <brandonmpace> Cheeky: :)
[10:20] <JaseX> Exactly DuKeS
[10:20] <brandonmpace> ariel_: what do you need? I can help
[10:21] <JaseX> in capabilities does it list x86-64 DuKeS ?
[10:21] <DuKeS> nope
[10:21] <JaseX> hmm
[10:21] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: but .. i have a problem how do i ssh into my machine .. i cant find it .. on my network on this machine..do i need to log in for it to show?
[10:21] <JaseX> Will you message me with the capabilities line...
[10:21] <ariel_> when i try to access a test.php file with my browser, it tells me it is a php file and d/l it, instead of showing it
[10:21] <JaseX> I want to match it to my desktop.
[10:21] <DuKeS> ok
[10:21] <JaseX> to see how it differs in contrast with mine.
[10:21] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: i mean log in the old machine and start the session ?
[10:21] <brandonmpace> Cheeky: I am not sure, but sounds like it makes sense to me
[10:22] <DuKeS> i sent it on pvt message
[10:22] <vampur> how to get terminal window in desktop without using panels
[10:22] <crazycool> hi men
[10:23] <crazycool> please, tell me how can i add other language for input?
[10:23] <JeePee> What do I need to edit in fstab to automount this?
[10:23] <JeePee> /dev/sda5 on /media/DATA type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[10:24] <brandonmpace> crazycool: on the keyboard?
[10:24] <Cheeky> how do i log into my server on my network though ubuntu .. i just installed the server andi dont see it on the network places on my current ubuntu machine
[10:24] <crazycool> brandonmpace, ya
[10:24] <nevagonnagiveuup> if I try and install ubuntu on a disk fully formatted with windows, will it fail?
[10:24] <brandonmpace> crazycool: System>preferences>keyboard
[10:24] <brandonmpace> crazycool: layouts tab
[10:24] <JaseX> DuKeS: I'm glad that helped your video problem a little bigt.
[10:24] <JaseX> But for now I am BRB
[10:25] <DuKeS> JaseX so adding more ram will increase the video performance?
[10:25] <DuKeS> yeah thanx dude
[10:25] <crazycool> brandonmpace, ohh.. i havent it in my menu... i use xubuntu
[10:25] <brandonmpace> DuKeS:  yes it will if your graphics are integrated
[10:25] <_LiNuX_> hi... i have a desktop cube and i want in every part of the cube has a differend wallpaper is any way to do that?
[10:25] <nevagonnagiveuup> why doesn't NVIDIA release the hardware information so there can be open source drivers?\
[10:26] <crazycool> brandonmpace, ive found it
[10:26] <DuKeS> yeah it's integrated graphics brandonmpace
[10:26] <brandonmpace> crazycool: ok well... you will have to find the equivalent of that in xfce. I´m sorry but i´m not familiar with it..
[10:26] <crazycool> brandonmpace, thx you
[10:26] <brandonmpace> crazycool: you´re welcome
[10:26] <dr3mro> hi i want to remove some packages form ubuntu because its slow what to remove ?
[10:26] <DuKeS> so that means i could go into the bios and dedicate say 256 instead of just 64 for the video?
[10:26] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: yes generally increasing ram helps integrated cards
[10:27] <vampur>  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel  when i do this is says no process killed
[10:27] <ariel_> brandonmpace: scroll up i wrote my problem
[10:27] <DuKeS> ah than i'll add a gig to the 512 :)
[10:27] <JaseX> yes DuKeS
[10:27] <C0R3-X> how can I change source.list file, without being superuser?
[10:27] <JaseX> as I said I have 1.3gigs ram
[10:27] <brandonmpace> ariel_: which browser are you using?
[10:27] <DuKeS> yeah thought u were brb:P thanks both of you
[10:27] <brandonmpace> C0R3-X: you can simply go to system>administration>software sources
[10:28] <JaseX> and it runs flawless almost with compiz on in full wondrous glory with effects and all
[10:28] <JaseX> I am back.
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <JaseX> I had to brush my teeth, even though it's 5:30 AM
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <nerv> krokodil
[10:28] <JaseX> someone ban nerv.
[10:28] <nerv> #
[10:28] <DuKeS> wait but do you still turn off compiz for watching video? or it runs everything fine with the 1.3gb ram?
[10:28] <ariel_> brandonmpace: firefox. but i tried even from IE within my virtaul machine, and it gives mt the same problme. d/l instead of showing
[10:28] <DuKeS> lol it's 5:30 here too
[10:28] <JaseX> I stay safe and turn off compiz.
[10:28] <brandonmpace> vampur: type gnome-panel
[10:28] <nerv> I check the bot
[10:28] <nerv> :)
[10:28] <JaseX> DuKeS: where are you perchance?
[10:29] <cresco> does anyone know that is there any extra themes for ubuntu
[10:29] <DuKeS> Dominican Republic atm
[10:29] <brandonmpace> ariel_: it is the php file then....
[10:29] <JaseX> Ah.
[10:29] <JaseX> I am in Massachusetts.
[10:29] <_coredump_> nerv, bist du schnappi fan?
[10:29] <DuKeS> ah i got a friend who went to live there
[10:29] <DuKeS> i'm from NY myself:p
[10:29] <vampur> i did dear there brandonmpace
[10:29] <JaseX> I sadly live on Capecod
[10:30] <vampur>  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel   this is the command line i entered and met and error of no process killed
[10:30] <ompaul> JaseX, if something really needs attention of an op you can do !ops but use it only in an emergency normally the flood bots take care of flooders
[10:30] <C0R3-X> Well, the problem is that my source.list is damaged, and i would like to replace it with the default one i got from web :/
[10:30] <DuKeS> sorry not familiar with where that is :P
[10:30] <ompaul> JaseX, syntax !ops | foo is spamming or whatever
[10:31] <ariel_> brandonmpace: the php fine includes <?php phpinfo(); ?> thats all
[10:31] <ompaul> JaseX, use sparingly ;-)
[10:31] <Hackwar2> hi, I've downloaded the current DVD image and umenu.exe does not work. it says the CD is wrong, it works in debug mode, but then again, it tries to start wubi.exe which is missing, too. Anybody know whats the problem there and if I can fix it for a Live DVD without coding something?
[10:31] <brandonmpace> ariel_: well then it appears that there is nothing to that file really
[10:32] <vampur>  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel   this is the command line i entered and met and error of no process killed  can any one help me in reseting the panel please thank you
[10:32] <Hackwar2> (current DVD image being: ubuntu-8.04.1-dvd-i386.iso)
[10:32] <JaseX> ah alright ompaul. Thank you.
[10:33] <C0R3-X> Which software is good alternative for RevConnect?
[10:33] <ompaul> JaseX, np
[10:33] <brandonmpace> C0R3-X: type on a terminal      sudo nautilus         and locate the downloaded file, then past it over the current one
[10:33] <brandonmpace> paste*
[10:33] <Thingymebob> Anybody know whats up with the forums server?
[10:33] <C0R3-X> ok
[10:33] <C0R3-X> ty
[10:33] <JaseX> Thingymebob: not quite...
[10:33] <JaseX> Maintenance probably, but i'm sure there would have been a notice....
[10:33] <JaseX> DDOS? Server failure? who can be sure...
[10:34] <vampur> is there any way out how can i get the main panel where applications and all others tools like system and all found as somehow i lost them the main panel
[10:34] <nevagonnagiveuup> I'm going to install vmware and run ubuntu in windows
[10:34] <papiiiiiiiiii> ip nukker
[10:35] <nevagonnagiveuup> that'll be sweet\
[10:35] <JaseX> papiiiiiiiiii: ???
[10:35] <papiiiiiiiiii> frm where i can get this application
[10:35] <brandonmpace> vampur: restart by a press of the power  button...
[10:35] <papiiiiiiiiii> sir JaseX nuking
[10:35] <JaseX> papiiiiiiiiii: make it.
[10:35] <papiiiiiiiiii> how sir
[10:35] <nevagonnagiveuup> papiiiiiiiiii: google winnuke.exe
[10:35] <JaseX> papi google.
[10:35] <nevagonnagiveuup> but it doesn't work anymore
[10:35] <nevagonnagiveuup> that's oooold
[10:35] <papiiiiiiiiii> its work on ubuntu
[10:35] <brandonmpace> lol
[10:36] <JaseX> For educational purposes I mention this only... packetstormsecurity.
[10:36] <JaseX> Now google.
[10:36] <nevagonnagiveuup> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/nuke.htm
[10:37] <JaseX> nevagonnagiveuup: please don't post such information here
[10:37] <papiiiiiiiiii> sir its work on ubuntu
[10:37] <papiiiiiiiiii> JaseX:
[10:37] <Saty-n> Hello world, anybody has scripts for virtiualbox host networking ?
[10:37] <JaseX> Unless one plans to use it educationally which I doubt.
[10:37] <artti> I have two partition. Both on them have Ubuntu, but i want one for home folder. Should i uninstall ubuntu or i could just delete all unneeded files.?
[10:38] <nevagonnagiveuup> JaseX: nuking is impossible now
[10:38] <nevagonnagiveuup> doesn't work
[10:38] <brandonmpace> JaseX: I used to use stuff like that educationally lol. no seriously
[10:38] <JaseX> Me as well.
[10:38] <JaseX> but todays youth tends to be skiddy riddled.
[10:38] <brandonmpace> lol
[10:38] <papiiiiiiiiii> then what i do
[10:38] <JaseX> nevagonnagiveuup: it does, it's just a bit different these days.
[10:38] <brandonmpace> papiiiiiiiiii: please do not ask about malicious programs here
[10:39] <JaseX> Denial of Service is a serious action. nevagonnagiveuup... please stop talking about it.
[10:39] <brandonmpace> papiiiiiiiiii: if you can´t code it yourself you don´t need to be using it...
[10:39] <papiiiiiiiiii> oks sir
[10:40] <Cheeky> hey could some one help me iam trying to install ssh into my new server i just installed and i did install it and when i tried to check if it worked by "ssh localhost".. i got the message connection refused, could some one tell me howi can turn it on? this is on the ubuntu server edition
[10:40] <brandonmpace> !ssh | Cheeky
[10:40] <tenX> Cheeky: aptitude install openssh-server
[10:40] <tenX> ?
[10:41] <Guest27897> Hi all.  I've followed the instructions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent) to create a persistent Live USB installation, however when I come to boot from the USB HDD I get an error 17 form grub.  I get the same result when I install directly to the external drive and when I copy the ISO to the external drive.  Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
[10:41] <JaseX> cheeky one moment
[10:41] <Cheeky> brandonmpace: yeah thank you i already read it and it mentions that hwen your connection is refused you need to set your firwall or router os something
[10:41] <Cheeky> tenX: i already did
[10:41] <Cheeky> JaseX: ok
[10:41] <tenX> Cheeky: does your networking setup allow incoming connections?
[10:41] <JaseX> try this from the computer you want to ssh to...
[10:41] <JaseX> sudo ufw allow proto tcp from <IP_ADDRESS>/16 to any port 22
[10:41] <JaseX> that's a terminal command of course Cheeky
[10:42] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: this means that grub can not find the root partition containing the boot files. (menu.lst)
 is that a 64bit ?
[10:42] <Cheeky> JaseX: whao
[10:42] <Guest27897> It's not 64 bit
[10:42] <tenX> JaseX: what do you think about that ubuntu ufw directive?
[10:42] <Guest27897> How do I (re)create the menu.list file?
[10:42] <C0R3-X> how to use $PATH function with this code, its for locating and installing .msi files- "msiexec /i fileinstaller.msi"
[10:42] <Cheeky> JaseX: could i pm if you dont mind ; cozi onlt have one keyboard .. to use on both machines as of now..
[10:42] <JaseX> tenX: It enabled me to SSH to any computer in my house from any laptop conencted to my network.
[10:43] <artti> Hey! Line in /dev/??? /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2? What nodev and nosuid means. Or what that line do?
[10:43] <JaseX> yes Cheeky
[10:43] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: this error usually requires a reinstall....  does it give you the option of going to console?
[10:43] <tenX> JaseX: ufw?? how can it enable you
[10:43] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: No
[10:43] <tenX> JaseX: afaik its disabled by default anyway
[10:43] <JaseX> easily, by setting the iptables tenX  to allow local connections
[10:43] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: All I get is a frozen boot screen
[10:43] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: I´m afraid this requires a reinstall..
[10:43] <brandonmpace> :(
[10:44] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: I have reinstalled twice
[10:44] <Dabbu1> how to install backend for empathy
[10:44] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: Ubuntu doesn't seem to set up grub correctly when installing to the external drive
[10:44] <tenX> JaseX: as a console and scripting type of guy - is there a graphic interface to ufw?
[10:44] <edo32mb> so i've tried the sound prefs, upgrading the alsa drivers, and the logitech AK5370 usb mic still wont work.  Any suggestions?
[10:44] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: (Yes I did select the option to install grub to the external drive)
[10:44] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: have you booted anything off of that flash drive before?
[10:44] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: No
[10:44] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: t's my girlfriends HDD
[10:45] <JaseX> I am not sure, there is a simple interface somewhere tenX
[10:45] <roberto> t
[10:45] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: She wants to try Ubuntu properly without touching her internal HDD
[10:45] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: It may be the drive, what size is it?  I would try a puppy linux install first and see if that works...
[10:45] <zvacet> tenX :http://gufw.tuxfamily.org/index.html
[10:45] <JaseX> there we go...
[10:45] <JaseX> thank you zvacet
[10:45] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: why not use the live cd?
[10:45] <zvacet> np
[10:45] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: It's 80GB Hitachi 2.5@ in a caddy
[10:45] <tenX> JaseX: guis for iptable exist, i was just wondering if the basic setup with ufw had a background
[10:46] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: That's not got a persistent filesystem and takes a year to boot
[10:46] <JaseX> it simplifies command line iptable configuration as its purpose if i'm not mistaken tenX
[10:46] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: I could just give her a live CD and format the HDD, but it will be slow and stops her using the CD drive
[10:46] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: (not ideal)
[10:46] <Guest15076> how to set path for fileinstaller.msi in this code: "msiexec /i fileinstaller.msi" ???
[10:46] <tenX> zvacet: thanks, its just basic interest, i'd actually prefer ufw not to exist
[10:47] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: I'll try Puppy linux on the HDD
[10:47] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: I´m sorry but I find myself unable to come up with a solution. I have never installed to a usb hard drive, only a flash drive
[10:47] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: It _should_ be exactly the same, no?
[10:47] <brandonmpace> similar..
[10:47] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: After all the laptop/PC only sees a mass storage device
[10:48] <brandonmpace> the way they both work is totally different though is what i´m saying
[10:48] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: Yes, but as far as the PC can see they don't
[10:48] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: I'll try Puppy linux
[10:48] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: Thanks for the suggestion
[10:49] <brandonmpace> Guest27897: actually they do as the hard drive has an mbr..
[10:49] <zvacet> tenX : np I just answered your question (curiosity)
[10:49] <JaseX> brandonmpace: what's the dpkg option to configure incorrectly configured packages that got interruped during an apt-get install?
[10:49] <brandonmpace> dpkg --reconfigure
[10:49] <Guest27897> do*
[10:49] <tenX> hmm but hey talking about booting from usb - at one point i tried setting up an usb stick linux setup with various distrous, it'd work out fine booting up three or for times but at some point it would fail. seemed like ext2/ext3 (tried both) wouldnt cooperate with that kind of medium
[10:49] <Guest27897> brandonmpace: Thanks for the info, I will look into puppy
[10:50] <zvacet> JaseX : sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:50] <JaseX> that's it...
[10:50] <JaseX> thanks
[10:50] <brandonmpace> tenX: yea but he got the grub error
[10:50] <tenX> zvacet: i always appreciate any effort to take myself or other people farther, so thank you
[10:50] <brandonmpace> JaseX:  you´re welcome
[10:50] <tenX> brandonmpace: its not about his problem
[10:50] <brandonmpace> tenX: oh ok lol
[10:50] <yao_ziyuan> can i use an alternate installer iso to upgrade my hardy to intrepid alpha 6?
[10:50] <tenX> brandonmpace: its about my experience
[10:51] <zvacet> tenX : np
[10:51] <yao_ziyuan> i mean, without burning it to a cd and booting from that cd
[10:51] <brandonmpace> yao_ziyuan: that is not recommended
[10:51] <yao_ziyuan> can i directly run an exectuable file in the iso such as "cdromupgrade"
[10:51] <yao_ziyuan> brandonmpace: but is it possible?
[10:51] <brandonmpace> yao_ziyuan: maybe if you mount it
[10:51] <tenX> brandonmpace: and as i said, everything worked out fine until approx 3rd time usage
[10:52] <brandonmpace> !iso | yao_ziyuan
[10:52] <yao_ziyuan> brandonmpace: will the setup program require a reboot?
[10:52] <zvacet> yao_ziyuan : yes I remember I saw it on forums so search if you have time
[10:52] <brandonmpace> I think so yao_ziyuan
[10:52] <tenX> brandonmpace: actually i worked around that using fat32 wrapping an iso system working like common cd booting distros like knoppix do, that did the job
[10:52] <yao_ziyuan> after the reboot,
[10:52] <yao_ziyuan> well...
[10:52] <yao_ziyuan> let me try
[10:53] <brandonmpace> tenX: yea I have done that with puppy
[10:53] <tenX> brandonmpace: but ext2/ext3 wouldnt cooperate
[10:53] <JaseX> Sorry, while helping here, I am also working on Debian Lenny on an imac brandonmpace ;)
[10:53] <brandonmpace> JaseX: ah sweet
[10:54] <edo32mb> you ever get discouraged when trying to research a problem and EVERY link that looks hopeful either doesn't exist or has been removed?
[10:54] <JaseX> brandonmpace: if only.
[10:54] <freestyler> Hi, I installed Windows after i had installed Linux, and so the grub is gone and only the windows boots... I searched in google and i tried 2 things to replace the grub from Live Ubuntu CD. while following the instructions, i got root and typed "fdisk -l". 3 devices where shown, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3. When i tried "mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/root" i got "mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist" although it i
[10:54] <freestyler> s listed there!! How can i fix this?
[10:54] <tenX> edo32mb: yeah ;)
[10:54] <brandonmpace> JaseX:  is that the latest debian?
[10:54] <linduxed> what command do i use to check the amount of RAM ive got installed?
[10:54] <JaseX> Nah...
[10:54] <JaseX> Testing.
[10:54] <JaseX> I'm too wuss to install unstable or experimental.
[10:54] <brandonmpace> edo32mb: after four years, I have come to expect stuff like that lol
[10:55] <edo32mb> the usb-mic doesn't work, even after checking configs in volume control...*sigh*
[10:55] <tenX> edo32mb: or the only useful link is pointing to that member only forum you have to pay for - it experts or so?
[10:55] <edo32mb> tenX, expertsexchange
[10:55] <brandonmpace> edo32mb: have you tried using a regular mic?
[10:55] <tenX> ah yeah
[10:55] <umangme> linduxed: top
[10:55] <edo32mb> brandonmpace, i don't have a regular mic
[10:55] <umangme> linduxed: or free
[10:55] <tenX> any experience with expertsexchange in here anyone?
[10:56] <edo32mb> brandonmpace, i had it working before i wiped my pc - after a lot of running through the sites that actually existed then (but are down now)
[10:56] <linduxed> umangme: thx
[10:56] <brandonmpace> edo32mb: :( that´s never fun
[10:56] <umangme> linduxed: Sure! :)
[10:57] <B3z3rk3r> 3am again... time for bed
[10:57] <B3z3rk3r> night guyz
[10:57] <IndyGunFreak> edo32mb: thatws why you save websites that provide truly useful info... i save them as .mht files w/ Opera, and put them w/ my backups.
[10:57] <marte999> ciao, come faccio ad ascoltare la musica in streaming ad esempio 105 se nn ho  wmp
[10:57] <TeLLuS> Ubuntu do not seem to have a volatile source achive like Debian http://www.debian.org/volatile/ How is it solved then?  Do I have to use the Debian archive in Ubuntu?  It seems they are waiting for the no longer existing avscan https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+bug/260401
[10:57] <edo32mb> IndyGunFreak, i've never thought of that.  good call
[10:57] <IndyGunFreak> edo32mb: or start a text file detailing how to setup tricky hardware, etc... i'ev done that also.
[10:58] <JaseX> why the hell would librpm4 be a requirement for a desktop environment?
[10:58] <freestyler> Hi, I installed Windows after i had installed Linux, and so the grub is gone and only the windows boots... I searched in google and i tried 2 things to replace the grub from Live Ubuntu CD. while following the instructions, i got root and typed "fdisk -l". 3 devices where shown, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3. When i tried "mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/root" i got "mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist" although it i
[10:58] <freestyler> s listed there!! How can i fix this?
[10:58] <linduxed> how large should the swap be if ive got 2Gb RAM and want to be able to suspend?
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> edo32mb: only thin that kinda sucks about it, is you have to use Opera, FF won't read or save .mht files.
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> edo32mb: but i just load up a url in opera when I want to save it, and it works quite well.
[10:59] <ortsvorsteher> !swap
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> !grub
[10:59] <ortsvorsteher> !swap | linduxed
[11:00] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: i followed that instructions, but i get errors :S
[11:00] <brandonmpace> linduxed: 1.5 to 2 times the amount of ram is usually safe
[11:00] <ortsvorsteher> !de
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> freestyler_: then something is prolly screwed up
[11:00] <brandonmpace> freestyler_: did you try the second link?
[11:00] <linduxed> brandonmpace: ok.... ive always heard that more than 50% of RAM is waste...
[11:01] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: i will check it out.
[11:01] <IndyGunFreak> freestyler_: but i don't see anything in those instructinos about using fdisk..
[11:01] <brandonmpace> linduxed: from where!
[11:01] <DuKeS> hey guys i'm back with a new question...is there a way to get utorrent working on ubuntu? or whats a similar lightweight, simple interface application to download torrents from?
[11:01] <JaseX> Alright brandonmpace pray for my new SLiM+LXDE configuration.
[11:01] <brandonmpace> utorrent works in wine DuKeS
[11:02] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: the first link in Overwriting the Windows bootloader
[11:02] <Guest14949> hi guys - I'm working on a wiki documentary page for create a USB-Boot device from the Intrepid Alpha Desktop CD - s.o. wanna help ?
[11:02] <DuKeS> wine? that emulation program?
[11:02] <JaseX> DuKeS: I would personally recommend transmission... though not as full featured as utorrent
[11:02] <zvacet> DuKeS : Ktorrent,Transmission.rtorrent
[11:03] <JaseX> You could also of course try Deluge, DuKeS
[11:03] <brandonmpace> Guest14949: why not go ask the people in #ubuntu+1
[11:03] <DuKeS> well i just want it to be simple to set up like utorrent
[11:03] <umangme> DuKeS: bitTorrent?
[11:03]  * IndyGunFreak loves Transmission
[11:04] <JaseX> DuKeS: transmission requires no setup really, and can be set to ask you where you want to save, though if you're looking for a similar program, Deluge is nice.
[11:04] <alexcamilo> does anyone know what a "milti zone error rate" in a drive's S.M.A.R.T status meens?
[11:04] <brandonmpace> DuKeS:  trust me just use utorrent in wine, you´re familiar with it and it WILL run
[11:05] <DuKeS> how do i get wine? i'll try both wine and transmission see which one i like mor
[11:05] <DuKeS> more**
[11:05] <alexcamilo> and what   high number meens?
[11:05] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: is there a way i can make a disk which will repair this?
[11:05] <brandonmpace> alexcamilo: sounds like ¨need new hard disk¨ to me
[11:05] <JaseX> DuKeS: do 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[11:05] <IndyGunFreak> freestyler_: you can try super grub disk i guess... Google it.
[11:05] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: then go download utorrent after that and just double click like usual :)
[11:05] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: i will google, thanks.
[11:06] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: after what JaseX  said
[11:06] <alexcamilo> yah, i figured. but what exactly does it meen?
[11:06] <zvacet> !wine | DuKeS
[11:06] <umangme> DuKes: I don't suggest wine. It is better that you use a linux alternative since wine will consumer a lot of CPU
[11:06] <s0u][ight> hello does ubuntu make use of the intel turbo memory by default or not?
[11:06] <JaseX> brandonmpace: do you recall how to set debian to automatically start X as such and such user and go straight to  the preferred desktop environment?
[11:06] <umangme> DuKeS: it's better you use Transmission or BitTorrent
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> s0u][ight: turbo memory...do you mean cpu cache?
[11:07] <brandonmpace> JaseX: you mean autologin?
[11:07] <JaseX> I recall it having something to do with innitab.
[11:07] <JaseX> I don't want a Display Manager actually.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | DuKeS
[11:07] <DuKeS> umangme: i'll try wine since i'm so familiar with utorrent and i'll try both of those u said too
[11:07] <JaseX> but yes...
[11:07] <JaseX> autologin.
[11:07] <JaseX> and then starting of x.
[11:07] <s0u][ight> ActionParsnip, i have an acer aspire 5920 with 1GB intel turbo memory
[11:07] <Mavrik-> ActionParsnip, turbo memory is not CPU cache
[11:07] <s0u][ight> in windows had to download the driver manually and install
[11:07] <JaseX> and pushed straight into the environment, with no inbetween display manager hogging memory.
[11:08] <s0u][ight> so wondering my linux is making use of it or not?
[11:08] <linduxed> DuKeS: if you like the simplicity and small size of utorrent id go with deluge or aria2.....but thats just my oppinion
[11:08] <brandonmpace> JaseX: system>administration>login window>  security tab
[11:08] <brandonmpace> JaseX: I think
[11:09] <alexcamilo> maybe a gremlin has taken up residence on your harddrive and is playing hopskotch with the platters .... reall quickly.
[11:09] <DuKeS> linduxed: yes thats exactly what i'm looking for...simple and small
[11:09] <alexcamilo> lol
[11:09] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: http://download.linux-live-cd.org/Super_Grub_Disk/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/  i don't get what i shall do now :S What should i download??
[11:09] <alexcamilo> and missing half the time
[11:09] <brandonmpace> DuKeS:  utorrent takes up like no resources even when run with wine...
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> freestyler_: download the current version iso, and burn it to a disk
[11:10] <DuKeS> yeah i'm still downloading wine...it's 60mb:P
[11:10] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: and whats the current version? :S
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> freestyler_: look at the version numbers
[11:10] <nevagonnagiveuup> should I run ubuntu with VMWARE, or should I go the whole hog and install it - I don't want to install it really, I like using windows for it's Japanese support
[11:11] <freestyler_> IndyGunFreak: Yeah i know, but which one shall i download? :S Sorry cuz i am a newbie...
[11:11] <zvacet> freestyler_ :supergrubdisk_0.9677.iso
[11:11] <brandonmpace> nevagonnagiveuup: vmware first, then if you like it >install
[11:11] <freestyler_> zvacet: thanks
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> freestyler_: i don't know how much more clear i can be... download hte iso of the current version and burn it
[11:11] <nevagonnagiveuup> I heard that its lame using it with windows, even if you like it
[11:11] <DuKeS> brandonmpace: ok wine installed fine do i need to set up anything or configure anything inside it? or just go to utorrent site and download the installer and double click it?
[11:11] <nevagonnagiveuup> wubi that was I mean
[11:11] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: the latter, just double click
[11:12] <tenX> nevagonnagiveuup: nothing is lame, it all depends on your purpose
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> nevagonnagiveuup: i've never sued Wubi, but I've heard its OK.. but i wouldn't use it in Vmware... I'd install it in some fashion
[11:12] <Cheeky> can anyonehelp me i ran "dhclient" and it gave me no broadcome interface ... can some one help me figure thisout /
[11:12] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: if you really want though, in the terminal type winecfg
[11:12] <zvacet> freestyler_ :  it is super_grub_disk_0.9722.iso  sorry
[11:12] <JaseX> Sun is rising, that's my cue to hit the hay.
[11:12] <vampur> dear brandonmpace i tried a lot but couldn't the main prob is that somehow i lost the both top panel as well as lower panel which come by default linux and now what i am trying to get those defaults panel somehow but unable to do so .
[11:12] <brandonmpace> vampur: even after a restart?
[11:12] <tenX> Cheeky: dhclient needs an interface to be declared?
[11:13] <JaseX> goodnight brandonmpace, DuKeS and rest of room.
[11:13] <tenX> does your broadcom interface even exist?
[11:13] <nevagonnagiveuup> I can't install ubuntu! I have windows on my hard drive
[11:13] <brandonmpace> goodnight JaseX
[11:13] <nevagonnagiveuup> taking up the whole disk
[11:13] <Cheeky> tenX: i dunno
[11:13] <vampur> yes dear i restart the system many times and i couldn't find that power one panel too dear
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> nevagonnagiveuup: ok, thats ridiculous, you can still install Ubuntu...
[11:13] <DuKeS> goodnight JaseX...thanx for all your help man :)
[11:13] <brandonmpace> nevagonnagiveuup: you can resize the partition....
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> !dualboot | nevagonnagiveuup
[11:13] <nevagonnagiveuup> in the installer?
[11:13] <ghaleb__>  hello, when I start my freeradius server, I get the following error: rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:13] <Cheeky> tenX: coz .. when i type in .. ifconfig -a all i see is .. <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:13] <tenX> Cheeky: thats all? :D
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> nevagonnagiveuup: how much free hard drive space do you have
[11:13] <Fuse> err anybody know how toget the user list up on xchat?
[11:14] <Cheeky> i need to start the ssh client but it says connection refused!
[11:14] <Saty-n> !ubottu
[11:14] <brandonmpace> it´s on the right fuse
[11:14] <Cheeky> tenX: well more .. but .. thats the only ip address i see
[11:14] <grzes> hi
[11:14] <Fuse> brandonmpace: hmm usually is yeah, but it's on a button for some reason. maybe it's the gnome version.
[11:14] <Fuse> and wow, 1.2K users
[11:14] <grzes> how to change ipv6 to ipv4 on my eth0???
[11:15] <grzes> ubuntuforums seems doesnt work..
[11:15] <brandonmpace> Fuse: 1.3 lol
[11:15] <vampur> is there any way out to restore the default themes and settings of linux by any mean of ways
[11:15] <tenX> Cheeky: well as long as you dont specify addresses or instruct your devices to obtain networking details via dhcp its not gonna work
[11:15] <brandonmpace> grzes: server is down
[11:15] <tenX> Cheeky: its the same with windows, apart from the driver issue
[11:15] <grzes> ok, is there a quick way to change it ?
[11:15] <Fuse> anyway, I cam here for a Haskell channel. ciao!
[11:15] <Dabbu1> what is the replacement for gtalk in ubuntu
[11:15] <DuKeS> brandonmpace: i double clicked the setup file but it's asking me where to install it to and defaults to C:\ is that location inside of linux or my real C:\ on my windows partition?
[11:15] <tenX> Cheeky: if you dont install network device drivers on windows, nothing aint gonna work as well
[11:16] <pexxi> Hi folks,
[11:16] <brandonmpace> Dabbu1: pidgin can do google talk
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> Dabbu1: like Google Talk?.. pidgin can access google talk
[11:16] <Cheeky> tenX: so how to get to accept and ip from ther dhcp ?
[11:16] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: that is imaginary inside of linux partition
[11:16] <Dabbu1>  brandonmpace: voic chat is not possible
[11:16] <JuzzyD> Ubuntu forums seem to be down again, this is becoming semi regular.
[11:16] <DuKeS> ok:)
[11:17] <Cheeky> tenX: when i type in dhcp is says .. no interface found
[11:17] <s0u][ight> i'm going to ask again: is ubuntu using the intel turbo memory by default?
[11:17] <JuzzyD> Is anyone familiar with an issue that causes absolutely terrible USB transfer rates, and if it's possible to fix it?
[11:17] <zvacet> DuKeS : I think that C is your drive in wine and real C is under Z or something like that
[11:17] <pexxi> does anyone konws how nautilus finds tags of mp3's. I have mp3 where only nautilus shows tags neither v1 nor v2 tags are findable with other taggers
[11:17] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: your virtual c drive all you gotta do is go to your home folder, hit Ctrl+H  then go to the folder .wine      then  .drive_c
[11:17] <vampur> is there any way out to restore the default themes and settings of linux by any mean of ways ????????
[11:17] <matrix> hey guys. I already have grub 0.97 installed, i want to upgrade to grub 2, does this affect my current settings and menu.lst file ?
[11:17] <Dabbu1> IndyGunFreak:i am not able to do voic chat in pidgin
[11:17] <Cheeky> tenX: can i pm you
[11:18] <brandonmpace> vampur: I hate to say but your situation may require a reinstall...:(
[11:18] <tenX> Cheeky: assumed your network device is working with a working driver provided you should be able to obtain networking stuff via dhcp
[11:18] <dsmith_> remote ubuntu upgrades over nx, so boring
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> Dabbu1: i'm not aware of any Linux client for Gtalk that will support voice...
[11:18] <Guest14949> REINSTALL IS COOL
[11:18] <tenX> Cheeky: sure
[11:18] <DuKeS> ok got it installed:D
[11:18] <edo32mb> anyone know why and or how long ubuntuforums is down for?
[11:18] <airtonix> hamster is being replaced....be patient
[11:18] <Dabbu1> IndyGunFreak: ok
[11:18] <vampur> any way other to restore
[11:18] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: your virtual c drive all you gotta do is go to your home folder, hit Ctrl+H  then go to the folder .wine      then  .drive_c
[11:18] <dsmith_> harry died?
[11:18] <Fuse> Hey guys, check this out: http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+suse%2C+gentoo%2C+fedora%2C+slackware&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[11:19] <Fuse> 2008 is truly the year of the Linux desktop.
[11:19] <brandonmpace> yes it most definitely is
[11:19] <dsmith_> wow
[11:19] <JuzzyD> Truly, 2009 will be the year of people going back to Windows
[11:19] <brandonmpace> lol nope
[11:19] <Fuse> haha, doubtful
[11:19] <zvacet> pexxi : in nautilus you will see search tab clicl on it and type mp3 ohter way is to use tracker
[11:20] <Fuse> anybody who has taken the move to ubuntu has likely not undertaken the move lightly
[11:20] <JuzzyD> Guys, lets face it, if I was an average user, not someone with an interest in Linux
[11:20] <DuKeS> brandonmpace: thanx nice to know where to find the c drive :) i'll test utorrent right now
[11:20] <JuzzyD> I would have well and truly gone back by now, I've had to fight with everything, and I'm still fighting
[11:20] <Fuse> Juzzy: since Vista was released, Linux market share has doubled?
[11:20] <brandonmpace> DuKeS:  you´re welcome, I´m afraid I have to go to sleep now as it is 5:20 here lol
[11:20] <airtonix> DuKeS, why do you need utorrent?
[11:21] <Fuse> Odd, I'm not fighting. I fought with Hardy, though.
[11:21] <vampur> suppose if i uninstall it as i installed it in windows to try it out will it effect the windows and will i regain the space back which i parted for linux
[11:21] <brandonmpace> airtonix: because he prefers it
[11:21] <JuzzyD> It may have, but it's still not usable for the average punter.
[11:21] <airtonix> DuKeS, ie transmission is basically a clone of utorrent
[11:21] <Fuse> but by the same amount I fought with XP
[11:21] <JuzzyD> Im using Hardy, maybe thats my issue
[11:21] <Cheeky> airtonix: coz its faster download speed i guess
[11:21] <brandonmpace> vampur: that´s a lot of work
[11:21] <pexxi> zvacet: thanks no I've mp3 where only nautilus shows mp3 tags. How I can get the tags?
[11:21] <dsmith_> anybody who has taken the move to ubuntu has likely not undertaken the move lightly....thats me
[11:21] <JuzzyD> For instance, I've been transferring an 800mb file to USB for the last 25 minutes
[11:21] <Fuse> wait I mean edgy
[11:21] <Fuse> 6.04
[11:21] <bullgard4> JuzzyD: Hardy is no issue.
[11:21] <dsmith_> 25 mins?
[11:21] <airtonix> Cheeky, how is utorrent 'faster' than transmission since they are both using the same protocol?
[11:21] <DuKeS> i'll try both and see which one i end up keeping in linux...i want utorrent because it's what i use on windows and im familiar with it
[11:21] <dsmith_> 8 mins for me or less
[11:21] <JuzzyD> Im almost 3/4 of the way there. People expect USB to just work
[11:22] <brandonmpace> airtonix:  it is lighter, even in wine
[11:22] <maozhang> anyone have ejabberd setup on ubuntu?
[11:22] <dsmith_> maozhang: openfire
[11:22] <JuzzyD> 25 minutes
[11:22] <DuKeS> and goodnight brandonmpace :) you've been a lot of help tonight too thanx
[11:22] <Fuse> JuzzyD: thing is it does.
[11:22] <airtonix> brandonmpace, lighter? as in file size....that contributes nothing to its ability to be 'faster'
[11:22] <JuzzyD> 329 k/sec
[11:22] <Fuse> you're an exception
[11:22] <maozhang> dsmith, i cant get pyaimt working with openfire
[11:22] <Fuse> but you get that anywhere
[11:22] <brandonmpace> DuKeS: you´re welcome and thankyou
[11:22] <Cheeky> airtonix: i dunno man . coz i used deluge and it was slow as hell ..and transmissions suddenly goes idle
[11:22] <brandonmpace> goodnight all
[11:22] <JuzzyD> But Im not an exception with Windows XP, you see where that is going?
[11:22] <Fuse> there's a big piece of software rolled out worldwide to millions of users with often very different hardware
[11:22] <dsmith_> !pyaimt
[11:23] <Fuse> maybe not on this issue, but others are for XP
[11:23] <maozhang> dsmith_, its a program used to allow people with jabber accounts to connect to aim
[11:23] <ghaleb__> hello, how can I get rlm_eap_tls.so module to run freeradius server ?
[11:23] <dsmith_> use pidgin/kopete
[11:23] <Fuse> and certainly this is true for Vista
[11:23] <JuzzyD> It's better than my stints with Linux 5 years ago, come ahead in leaps and bounds
[11:23] <airtonix> Cheeky, are you using upnp and have you set some port forwarding from your router to your machine? that often is the reason many experience slow downlaods
[11:23] <maozhang> dsmith_, http://code.google.com/p/pyaimt/
[11:23] <JuzzyD> Im just saying I don't think that ma and pa users are quite ready to swap over
[11:23] <maozhang> dsmith_, i want to create a jabber server using ejabberd, which works with pyaimt, so i can use google talk to connect to aim on my blackberry
[11:23] <dsmith_> oh
[11:23] <Fuse> JuzzyD: anyway I'm not going to say ubuntu will take off in 09. I'm just saying Ubuntu only ever gets better, while Windows stagnates
[11:23] <grzes> how to change ipv6 to ipv4 on my eth0 on hardy???
[11:24] <dsmith_> hmmmm.....never tried that before
[11:24] <Fuse> it seems logical to conclude it will take off eventually
[11:24] <JuzzyD> Agreed
[11:24] <airtonix> JuzzyD, on the contrary...if ma and pa bought a pc in the shop with ubuntu presinstalled they wouldnt care....
[11:24] <JuzzyD> As I said, five years ago it was almost unworkable unless you were willing to put a lot of effort in, huge amounts.
[11:24] <JuzzyD> Now it's just small annoyances
[11:24] <maozhang> right now google talk is able to pull my aim contacts while this jabber server thats using pyaimt, but its unreliable because that server keeps going down
[11:24] <maozhang> thats why i want to start my own ejabberd server
[11:24] <Fuse> personally I dumped Windows completely this year. it's got to the point I can do that without hassle
[11:24] <nevagonnagiveuup> ma???
[11:24] <airtonix> JuzzyD, its the power users who 'think' they know how their machine works with windows are the ones who will never switch
[11:24] <Fuse> everything I can find on ubuntu
[11:25] <nevagonnagiveuup> pa???
[11:25] <grzes> how to change ipv6 to ipv4 on my eth0 on hardy???
[11:25] <Cheeky> airtonix: no i havent .. touched the router setting ever since i installed ubuntu but wat i did was select randomized pory selection on deluge and it was slow
[11:25] <airtonix> JuzzyD, the windows power user is one who know the steps (clicks) required to get X working but understands nothing of the process involved....windows is for diagram driven intruction manuals
[11:25] <JuzzyD> So can you tell me how to fix the Pulse audio issue that forces me to restart after watching anything on youtube if I then want mp3's or avi's?
[11:26] <vampur>  i am a newbie and some how while trying i lost my both top default panel as well as the lower panel . now when i tried this  >>gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel<< i had an error of no process killed
[11:26] <Fuse> JuzzyD: dunno - I don't get that issue
[11:26] <Fuse> can I be an arsehole and tell you to reformat?
[11:26] <JuzzyD> You don't have to convince me airtonix, As far as Im concerned I'm better off on the open source side of the fence.
[11:27] <JuzzyD> Fuse, It's a known issue that FF3 + Flash = Havoc with Audio, a search for USB transfer rate also see
[11:27] <JuzzyD> see's a lot of results for the Ubuntu forum, so I'm definitely not alone.
[11:27] <airtonix> JuzzyD, dont use pulse..
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> vampur: what happens when you try to run gnome-panel in a terminal windo?
[11:27] <koshari> JuzzyD while i agree with you with regard to linux in the home, in enterprise you need linux and windows
[11:27] <Fuse> JuzzyD: hmm i'll check what I use
[11:27] <Fuse> either way it's a small driver issue likely
[11:27] <airtonix> JuzzyD, i have set my multimedia system selector to alsa...and i use aoss on progs that seem to hog the soundserver..
[11:28] <nevagonnagiveuup> when is google releasing their operating system?
[11:28] <ghaleb__> hello, how can I get rlm_eap_tls.so module to run freeradius server ?
[11:28] <Fuse> I use Alsa
[11:28] <Andrew_von_T> hi there
[11:28] <airtonix> nevagonnagiveuup, they have android for mobile phones/pds ... are you thinking of this?
[11:28] <JuzzyD> I will swap it over to Alsa and see how I go.
[11:29] <Fuse> let me know
[11:29] <vampur> panel already runing
[11:29] <airtonix> JuzzyD, for the record i havent removed pulse audio
[11:29] <vampur> but couldn't find it
[11:29] <Fuse> vampur: um, you're having panel problems? and you've tried restarting?
[11:29] <Andrew_von_T> When I start my PC, when GDM is loaded, my mouse turns of if I don't move it during loading. Is there any way to fix it?
[11:29] <airtonix> JuzzyD, i merely used 'multimedia system selector' to use alsa instead.
[11:29] <JuzzyD> But that is an example of why we're still not quite over the line on getting point and click users into Open Source.
[11:29] <maozhang> does anyone know how to get ejabbred working?
[11:29] <Fuse> JuzzyD: I disagree
[11:29] <Andrew_von_T> I use evdev driver
[11:29] <vampur> yes dear fuse many times i did this too
[11:30] <Fuse> you ever tried installing XP or Vista/
[11:30] <JuzzyD> But thats no excuse for them to ignore my beliefs and send me files in proprietary formats :P
[11:30] <_tins_> hi
[11:30] <Fuse> you install XP fresh on a computer and you're missing half the drivers
[11:30] <Fuse> it's really not user friendly
[11:30] <Fuse> nobody notices thought because OEMs fix it
[11:30] <airtonix> Fuse, JuzzyD most problems you see with ubuntu now are problems windows has as well...but your not seeing them in windows since 1) most hardware is designed for windows 2) the boxes are installed & ironed out before you purchase the box....
[11:30] <duckamuk> how long have the forums been down?
[11:30] <Fuse> but nothing stops linux being the same
[11:31] <Fuse> airtonix: exactly what I am saying
[11:31] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi! Im having a weird problem, Im trying to start a program that I know exist but when I try to execute it the CLI prompt says "unable to execute /usr/bin/4L-gui: No such file or directory"
[11:31] <JuzzyD> airtonix, I've never bought a machine with Windows installed on it
[11:31] <airtonix> JuzzyD, neither have i...
[11:32] <JuzzyD> I hope Im not being misunderstood as unhappy with the product here. I don't want to come across like that.
[11:32] <Fuse> vampur: um I'm an ubuntu newb, but... last time I had problems with the desktop that I couldn't fix, I uninstalled GDM and KDE and reinstalled GDM
[11:32] <nevagonnagiveuup> far out, I just installed an old version of VMWAre
[11:32] <JuzzyD> I'm just saying that in my experiences, I wouldn't recommend to Joe Bloggs with limited computer knowledge, to have a crack at removing his windows and installing linux.
[11:32] <nevagonnagiveuup> they need a linux doorknocking appeal
[11:32] <Fuse> haha fair enough. but I also wouldn't recommend him installing windows on a fresh PC
[11:33] <Fuse> you see my point?
[11:33] <vampur> could u elaborate how to do this as em a newbie too
[11:33] <nevagonnagiveuup> "excuse me, would you mind if I helped you install linux on your PC?"
[11:33] <JuzzyD> Getting it released as OEM such as the Asus EEE is the best way to get market share, because as mentioned, OEM smoothes out the issues that arise from custom hardware.
[11:33] <mandh> hello i have Ubuntu 7.04  and the system freez suddenly i dont know but i doubt in kernel
[11:33] <Fuse> vampur: ok, well when you log in, instead of loading gnome, load up a console session
[11:33] <nevagonnagiveuup> EEEpc didn't release the source for a while
[11:33] <nevagonnagiveuup> s/EEEpc/ASUS
[11:33] <Fuse> then type the command to uninstall gnome or KDE (whatever you use)
[11:33] <vampur> okh
[11:34] <nevagonnagiveuup> breached the GPL
[11:34] <Fuse> then restart, and install GDM again
[11:34] <vampur> and then how to re-install it
[11:34] <Fuse> hmm let me check
[11:34] <Fuse> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <Fuse> I think. somebody confirm?
[11:36] <mandh> i have Ubuntu 7.04 and the system freeze can i upgrade the system with the same installing asterisk on it ?
[11:36] <vampur> but dear that time i wont be able to have the internet
[11:36] <Saty-n> hello, Anybody has scripts for virtualbox host networking on hardy ?
[11:36] <Fuse> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[11:36] <Fuse> sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:36] <Fuse> should do it
[11:36] <Fuse> for removing gnome
[11:37] <Fuse> no Internet?
[11:37] <Andrew_von_T> I've got my mouse off each time I start my ubuntu without moving it. Can anyone help please?
[11:37] <JuzzyD> Whoa, either I need to get some sleep, or the rows are slightly crooked in Nautilus suddenly
[11:37] <Fuse> removing gnome shouldn't remove your internet access....
[11:37] <Fuse> ciao JuzzyD
[11:40] <DuKeS> airtonix: hmm...turns out transmission IS easy as pie to use lol very simple interface with all the information i need at a glance...thanx :)
[11:40] <fat> herrow
[11:40] <airtonix> DuKeS, imo its a direct clone of utorrent....other than transmission i would be using rtorrent under certain circumstances
[11:41] <rajec> why because of  graphics effects turn some confirm dialogs windows goes blank in NetBeans?
[11:42] <DuKeS> airtonix: well what i liked most was the fact that it integrated into the OS right away meaning i click a torrent link and it's my default .torrent handler + it configured the port itself and i was getting very nice DL speed
[11:42] <JuzzyD> Wow, James May is an awesome presenter.
[11:43] <lfs-livecd> Does anyone know how long Ubuntu Forums have been down?
[11:43] <DuKeS> lfs-livecd: i've been in the chat for a while and people have been reporting the forums down for quiet a while
[11:43] <lfs-livecd> ok cool.
[11:44] <Fuse> maybe it was barrapunto'd
[11:45] <DuKeS> alright room i'm out. G'night  and thanks to all who helped me out.
[11:45] <vampur> dear fuse how to install gnome again
[11:45] <vampur> by live cd
[11:46] <init08> what's the best way to detect packet sniffer in your network?
[11:46] <Fuse> why do you need a live cd? bandwidth costly?
[11:46] <Fuse> I forget how to install by live CD from console
[11:46] <airtonix> DuKeS, one thing i like about rtorrent that i cant get transmission to do is resume downloads on torrent files that i have moved since they began....transmission chooses to restart rather than continue from data found at the chosen storage location. rtorrent would see data already there and begin hashing it for errors...
[11:47] <vampur> and that system dosn't have the internet dear
[11:47] <airtonix> DuKeS, but rTorrent is ncurses and transmission is gtk...so two different target demographics
[11:47] <vampur> is there any way out to install the gnome from live cd or offline
[11:47] <Fuse> yes, but I forget how. Try a google search
[11:48] <Fuse> I believe it involves making your live cd part of the apt-get respository sources
[11:48] <Fuse> which isn't too difficult
[11:49] <whileimhere> Hi here is a tough one for everyone even though its only 6am. I have about 6,000 files all in uppercase. I need to convert them to lowercase for example the file JIM.ZIP needs to be renamed to jim.zip but as I have said I have 6,000 of these files. Can anyone tell me a simple automated way to do this task?
[11:49] <airtonix> whileimhere, using catfish
[11:49] <nevagonnagiveuup> shell scrip
[11:49] <Fuse> whileimhere: python
[11:49] <nevagonnagiveuup> script*
[11:49] <whileimhere> Ahh you mean programming
[11:49] <Fuse> not really
[11:49] <Fuse> it's like 2 lines
[11:49] <whileimhere> I was hoping there is a simple way.
[11:50] <airtonix> whileimhere, using catfish
[11:50] <airtonix> whileimhere, sudo apt-get install catfish
[11:50] <whileimhere> got catfish
[11:50] <airtonix> whileimhere, or rather...purr sorry
[11:50] <airtonix> whileimhere, sudo apt-get install purr
[11:51] <Fuse> i'd just use a list comprehension which maps the lower case function to every file-name. but yeah, you need to know a tad of Python. it's worth learning for this sort of stuff.
[11:51] <airtonix> whileimhere, correction : sudo apt-get install purrr
[11:51] <Guest77119> I've just installed Ubuntu on an external hard drive (again) and it manages to boot into grub and give a (correct) listing of all bootable partitions on the system, however I cannot boot the new install.  I get an unable to mount file system error
[11:51] <grzes> anyone tried to run winbox on ubuntu???
[11:51] <grzes> and why it freezes..
[11:51] <whileimhere> airtonix couldnt find purr
[11:51] <Guest77119> I've tried setting up grub, however it doesn't accept my root partition
[11:51] <vampur> dear didn't fdind anyway to install gnome from live cd
[11:52] <vampur> of ubutnu
[11:52] <airtonix> whileimhere, because i left out the third 'r'... purrr
[11:52] <whileimhere> ahhh
[11:52] <whileimhere> okay have it
[11:53] <SiDi> vampur, kubuntu or ubuntu livecd?
[11:53] <vampur> !gnome
[11:53] <vampur> ubuntu live cd
[11:53] <vampur> !insall gnome
[11:53] <Fuse> vampur: I think it is apt-cdrom
[11:53] <airtonix> whileimhere, bash script here that does it too : http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/scripts/up2low
[11:53] <SiDi> and you want gnome only, on another distro, or ubuntu + gnome? :P
[11:54] <airtonix> whileimhere, up2low : script to convert upercase filename to lowercase in current working dir
[11:54] <vampur> what i need is default linux seeting as i lost my gnome now
[11:54] <vampur> without re-installing linux
[11:54] <whileimhere> airtonix is it a recursive script?
[11:54] <Fuse> http://mirror.atrpms.net/ccrma/man/man8/apt-cdrom.8.html
[11:54] <SiDi> and what about getting the meta packets from repository vampur ?
[11:54] <SiDi> i think its desktop-gnome, etc
[11:55] <Fuse> SiDi: it is 'ubuntu-desktop'
[11:55] <airtonix> whileimhere, no
[11:55] <nevagonnagiveuup> can I get away with installing ubuntu on VMWARE with only 8 GB of space?
[11:55] <howlingmadhowi1> whileimhere: no, you'll have to embed it in a 'find'
[11:55] <opt1k> when are ubuntuforums.org going back up?
[11:55] <asho79> vampur: have you lost gnome or just enabled enlightenment etc?
[11:55] <Fuse> but I believe he doesn't want to use bandwidth on apt-get
[11:55] <airtonix> whileimhere, you could use the find command and pipe it to a sed action maybe
[11:56] <SiDi> nevagonnagiveuup, i guess its doable but you wont have much space left :D
[11:56] <airtonix> whileimhere, $ echo "TesT" | sed 'y/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz/ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/'
[11:56] <Fuse> nevagonnagiveuup: I'd say so. 2 gig for ubuntu, 2 gig for storage, 2 gig for page file... it'd work surely?
[11:56] <vampur> dear i lost my gnome and is there any way to re-install it
[11:57] <duckamuk> nevagonnagiveup 8GB is fine, i do it all the time
[11:57] <asho79> vampur: did you enable enlightenment?
[11:57] <airtonix> whileimhere, example of how to use sed to convert lower case to uppercase....for the reverse just swap the upper case letter with the lowercase letters in the sed portion : $echo "TesT" | sed 'y/ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz/'
[11:57] <Moofius> Is there any good guide for the security aspects of setting up a ubuntu webserver, I got a vps with only a root user, logging in via ssh. Would like that the guide explains how to set up a non-root user, get that user to be able to sudo, changing ssh-port, and all that stuff
[11:57] <vampur> how to do this dear asho
[11:57] <neeto> I need a file called libstdc++.so.5, but I cannot find it in the standard libstdc++ packages from the repository... does anyone know of a package this comes in?
[11:57] <airtonix> neeto, try using getlib on the file.
[11:58] <Moofius> I have seen this kind of guide before, but my google-vodoo is not so strong
[11:58] <airtonix> !getlib | neeto
[11:58] <whileimhere> airtonix that was cool
[11:58] <neeto> I'm with you on that bot