[08:06] <ybott> I had to uninstall the operating system, due to not being able to install it. That sucked.
[08:06] <ybott> I had to put windows back on here to get online.
[08:06] <ybott> heh.
[08:06] <jza873> why do you have to install the router cant you just type in the gateway ip for teh configuration
[08:07] <apus> vlc playes avi, but no sound
[08:07] <ybott> I think I tried everything.
[08:07] <ubd> how do i add enlightenment option to kde login screen?
[08:07] <jza873> i have a netgear and never installed anything just type in your gateway
[08:07] <ybott> jza873, You know kubuntu really well?
[08:07] <jza873> sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> apus, run kmix and make sure nothing's muted
[08:07] <dsmith> <IP_ADDRESS>.
[08:08] <dsmith> admin:admin
[08:08] <dsmith> :)
[08:08] <ybott> yea, I know my gateway...
[08:08] <jza873> no i dont actually belkin is on 0.1
[08:08] <apus> oh nelly
[08:08] <apus> it was using my onbaord audio
[08:08] <hitmanWilly> dsmith, mine sits on 0.1, but yeah
[08:08] <jza873> no my bad 2.1
[08:08] <dsmith> er wait maybe its <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:08] <ybott> yea its <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:08] <dsmith> yes thats it
[08:08] <ubd> how do i add enlightenment option to KUBUNTU login screen?
[08:08] <jza873> sorry all new belkins are on <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:08] <ubd> lol
[08:08] <jza873> because they conflict with zyxels'
[08:08] <apus> apparently my chaintech has 11 outputs
[08:09] <ybott> I could connect to the router, but could never connect to the internet.
[08:09] <hitmanWilly> and admin:password on a netgear
[08:09] <jza873> yup
[08:09] <jza873> do you have dsl or cable
[08:09] <dsmith> i'm thinking linksys
[08:09] <ybott> jza873, cable
[08:09] <jza873> linksys sucks
[08:09] <dsmith> haah
[08:09] <apus> yes linksys sucks, I have 4 dead ones
[08:09] <jza873> unless you load linux on it other wise it over flows too ofter
[08:09] <apus> and netgear, and dlink, they all suck
[08:10] <ybott> my manual says the belkin would work with linux
[08:10] <ybott> but there was no hope for me.
[08:10] <dsmith> toss in M$ while your at it
[08:10] <jza873> on powercycle you cable router and then go int rour router and run a release and renew and then do a ping to google fomr tehe router
[08:10] <apus> ybott, routers should be completely independent of your os
[08:10] <Cosmo_> talking about routers?
[08:10] <jza873> routers are
[08:10] <ybott> they should be
[08:10] <jza873> they are completely independent
[08:10] <Cosmo_> buffalo routers are good
[08:10] <jza873> buffalo are expensive
[08:11] <Cosmo_> but worth it
[08:11] <apus> pfsense routers are good!
[08:11] <dsmith> buffalo, are yummy
[08:11] <AmyRose> But they taught me in school that only Cisco is good :P
[08:11] <apus> still no sound, who wants to help?
[08:11] <jza873> good routers are 3com acatel
[08:11] <dsmith> Cisco, subsidized your school
[08:11] <ybott> apus, so tell me why I could never get a connection then?
[08:11] <jza873> cisco are complicated
[08:11] <dsmith> overly so
[08:11] <apus> bad router
[08:12] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[08:12] <apus> or bad nic
[08:12] <jza873> thus the reason i liek 3com
[08:12] <ybott> its working now...with winxp
[08:12] <apus> was the nic set up right?
[08:12] <jza873> winxp stop swearing its not polite
[08:12] <dsmith> Cosmo, dont know that one
[08:12] <dsmith> LOL
[08:12] <ybott> jza873, heh.
[08:12] <apus> routers work with everything, xboxs, print servers, etc, os doesn't matter
[08:12] <dsmith> get a cheap dell 720 printer, made my lexmark, Linux drivers work
[08:13] <Hc\> !java Hc\
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java hc\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <hitmanWilly> !java > Hc\
[08:14] <jza873> cursed im installing evil java now
[08:14] <ybott> I was loving ubuntu, but net i hated that.
[08:14] <hitmanWilly> well, i gotta go, work tommorrow :(
[08:15] <jza873> what the apt-get for java
[08:15] <apus> if I have 2 sound cards how do I tell it which one to use
[08:15] <ybott> When using a wireless router is anything saved into it....does it get used to running on windows...and have to be reset to boot on linux?
[08:15] <ybott> heh.
[08:15] <apus> ybott: no
[08:16] <pollyo> Hello
[08:16] <pollyo> How can I determine if an isp is blocking a port?
[08:16] <jza873> call them
[08:16] <jza873> what prot
[08:16] <jza873> port*
[08:16] <ybott> apus, i'll tell ya what. i start up with kubuntu....connect without using the wireless modem, and start desktop sharing, and you can set it up and show me how? Got time?
[08:16] <jza873> isp's usually all block the sme port
[08:16] <pollyo> 80
[08:16] <apus> pollyo: do a google search for a port scan service
[08:16] <jza873> cant block 80
[08:17] <apus> ybott, I am having problems getting kubuntu to even work at the moment
[08:17] <jza873> 80 is for http or internet access
[08:17] <pollyo> What does a webserver run on ?
[08:17] <ybott> apus, ah, I see.
[08:17] <jza873> idk pick one
[08:17] <ybott> Anybody on here an expert that could do that with no prob?
[08:17] <jza873> experts get paid
[08:17] <ybott> heh
[08:17] <ybott> well?
[08:18] <ybott> I swear I have spent over 20 hours trying to set it up...
[08:18] <ybott> i'm tired of it.
[08:18] <ybott> need help ;P
[08:18] <Hc\> umm, how can i accept a licence agreement? im installing java
[08:19] <jza873> grr im doing java too i forget the apt-get for it
[08:19] <jza873> java is a pain
[08:19] <xushi> just scroll through the few tens of pages of license pretending you're reeding it, and accept it in the end
[08:19] <Hc\> ye
[08:19] <jza873> ohh yea
[08:19] <Hc\> got it now
[08:19] <jza873> i for got
[08:19] <Hc\> it didnt respond me
[08:19] <Hc\> now i got it =)
[08:19] <Hc\> sry for interrupting
[08:20] <Hc\> !flash | Hc\
[08:22] <jza873> flash is so easy comapred to java
[08:23] <apus> can someone help me with asoundconf
[08:23] <apus> Im trying to tell it wich sound card to use
[08:23] <pollyo> It appears that port 80 is closed and completely invisible to the outside world.  I suspect that the isp can block that port.
[08:25] <apus> can you go to websites pollyo?
[08:26] <jza873> u using a router
[08:35] <underdog5004> lol, gf is asleep, no more cuddling required
[08:36] <pollyo> Is the java-6-plugin something one should have for firefox?
[08:36] <pollyo> It says for mozilla in the repository.
[08:36] <pollyo> I'm still not sure how different that would be from firefox.
[08:37] <underdog5004> pollyo, if you want to use java, I would install it.
[08:37] <pollyo> Ok
[08:38] <Cosmo_> on the NVIDIA X server it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it, how do I fix this?
[08:40] <pollyo> I'm impressed with how synaptic handles the licensing for java while adept seems to have trouble with such installs.
[08:40] <pollyo> I hope that is something they are working on in adept.
[08:41] <underdog5004> adept and synaptic are both frontends for Apt
[08:41] <Cosmo_> I like synaptic
[08:41] <mackyman> I heard something about adept beeing removed in feisty, anyone else heard something about this?
[08:41] <underdog5004> me too
[08:42] <underdog5004> ^  @ Cosmo_
[08:42] <pollyo> mackyman: Have not idea.  All I can say is that it installed on my system.
[08:42] <Hc\> boot
[08:42] <jza873> nope adept is still here
[08:43] <apus> alright! session 2 of troubleshooting
[08:43] <jza873> later imma go to bed
[08:43] <apus> peeps, I have 2 soundcards, and I dont think programs are using the right one
[08:44] <apus> and by that, I mean they are using the wrong one, I just tested it
[08:45] <cyt> mackyman: We cat get the answer tomorrow ;) # about the adept isue
[08:46] <mackyman> cyt: Yep =)
[08:46] <mackyman> Last day of Edgyness here =)
[08:46] <pollyo> What would they put in its place?
[08:46] <mackyman> There where another program instead... I dunno...
[08:47] <nbcb> anyone knows how to find out the last ip address that ssh log into?
[08:48] <mackyman> nbcb: Do you mean the last you connected to?
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <Briareos1> sometimes when i boot my 2 sound devices are in different order: usually the one is /dev/dsp and the other one /dev/dsp1 but sometimes its the other way around. Why is this and what can i do about that?
[08:48] <Briareos1> moin
[08:49] <nbcb> yeah or the history of addresses i make connections to
[08:49] <nbcb> assuming there is no bash history..
[08:49] <nbcb> i thought it would be at /home/x/.ssh/known_host but its all encrypted
[08:49] <mackyman> Checked the /var/log dir?
[08:52] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with medibuntu?
[08:52] <Tm_T> pollyo: doing poll?
[08:52] <Tm_T> pollyo: if you need help, just ask your question ;)
[08:52] <mackyman> medibuntu? Haven't even heard of...
[08:52] <mackyman> For media station?
[08:53] <pollyo> Tm_T: I went to install something and it said am I sure with a warning about trusted sites.
[08:53] <Tm_T> and?
[08:53] <underdog5004> mackyman, no, for doctors
[08:53] <underdog5004> MEDIcal UBUNTU
[08:53] <mackyman> haha
[08:54] <mackyman> Right... *sceptical*
[08:54] <Tm_T> hey kids, you're not very helpful ;)
[08:54] <Tm_T> !medibuntu
[08:54] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:54] <Tm_T> pollyo: what is your question?
[08:55] <pollyo> Tm_T: I suspect my first question has to be How does one determine a trusted site?
[08:55] <nbcb> what's the best way to monitor and block websites for a server hosting serveral clients? like block msn etc
[08:55] <Tm_T> pollyo: with a key
[08:55] <Briareos1> or asked in a different way: how does linux determine which soundcard gets which device file?
[08:55] <Tm_T> pollyo: I think all is explained in medibuntu site :)
[08:55] <pollyo> Tm_T: I'll take another look at the website.
[08:56] <pollyo> Tm_T: I was looking at the Repository Howto.  Let me check again to make sure I didn't miss somethign.
[08:56] <Tm_T> pollyo: if you can't find it, slap me and I try to help (not good explaining things)
[08:56] <K`zan> Anyone know how to inset a carrage return in a regular expression?
[08:57] <pollyo> Tm_T: Didn't see anything on the Repository Howto Link.
[08:57] <Tm_T> nbcb: iptables
[08:57] <Tm_T> pollyo: and that medibuntu site?
[08:57] <pollyo> Tm_T: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:57] <pollyo> Opps..wrong one
[08:57] <Tm_T> =)
[08:57] <nbcb> !firewall
[08:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:57] <pollyo> Tm_T: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:57] <pollyo> Did it again..
[08:58] <nbcb> Tm_T: is iptables a firewall?
[08:58] <pollyo> medibuntu.sos-sts.com
[08:58] <Tm_T> nbcb: yes
[08:58] <Tm_T> pollyo: yes, does that contain any info?
[08:58] <nbcb> is there a GUI for kde for iptables? i
[08:58] <pollyo> Tm_T: Just a simply how to but it does not discuss this trusted issue.
[08:58] <pollyo> Tm_T: Nor any mention of a key
[08:58] <Briareos1> can you recommend any channel for getting an answer about my soundproblem?
[08:58] <Tm_T> pollyo: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[08:59] <Tm_T> Briareos1: check help.ubuntu.com and Gentoo wiki
[08:59] <Tm_T> pollyo: it's very first part in that page ;)
[08:59] <pollyo> Tm_T: Oh my!  I was reading that as a link for 6.06 .
[09:00] <pollyo> Tm_T: Thanks.
[09:00] <nbcb> my connection now is , dsl modem (to outside world) <--> server with dhcp server <--> the rest of the computers .. the gateway of the rest of the computers are set to the dsl modem's ip.. does firewall still worksS?
[09:00] <Tm_T> nbcb: why not
[09:02] <mackyman> Briareos1: Is one soundcard built in and the other is a PCI one?
[09:02] <nbcb> ok.. so it doesn't matter where the gateway is set? i thought gateway should be set to the server's ip
[09:03] <flaccid> the gateway for clients on the LAN is usually going to be the LAN NIC IP of the server which has the WAN NIC
[09:03] <Tm_T> nbcb: IIRC it's enough if it's between users and "the world"
[09:04] <nbcb> ic..but now my clients gateway is set directly to the WAN (dsl modem's ip) .. can my iptable still work?
[09:05] <flaccid> well that shounds like you have bridged it
[09:05] <crazy_penguin> hello all!
[09:05] <Briareos1> mackyman: one is on-board and one is usb
[09:05] <Tm_T> if data goes through firewall...
[09:05] <mackyman> Briareos1: wich one do you wich to use?
[09:05] <flaccid> but yes it will still work if your firewall rules are not ip based, but interface based
[09:05] <nbcb> yeah.. seems like my clients just jump over to the internet although they get their ip from my server which runs dhcp server
[09:06] <flaccid> you can always test
[09:06] <Briareos1> mackyman: basically both - for example the onboard should be for amarok and stuff - and the USB (is a headset) for teamspeak
[09:06] <Tm_T> if physically data connections go thru server, it's all about server settings then
[09:06] <Briareos1> mackyman: all that stuff usually works, but the problem is, that sometimes suddenly the device-files correspond to another device
[09:07] <mackyman> Briareos1: Ahhh, then I understand your dilemma... I thought you just wanted to use one
[09:07] <Briareos1> mackyman: nah :)
[09:07] <Briareos1> mackyman: usually onboard is /dev/dsp and USB is /dev/dsp1
[09:07] <mackyman> Briareos1: Smart thinking thou
[09:07] <Briareos1> mackyman: but this time i booted it was the other way around; i am sure if i reboot it will be okay again - but i don't want to
[09:08] <mackyman> Why reboot? ;)
[09:08] <Tm_T> Briareos1: maybe it's about which device has module first loaded
[09:08] <Briareos1> mackyman: I've searched on that topic long enough and now I want a solution that holds forever :)
[09:08] <mackyman> Briareos1: Understand that
[09:09] <nbcb> dsl modem (x.x.x.1) <--> server (x.x.x.201) <--> clients (x.x.x.205) , gateway for client = x.x.x.1..
[09:09] <Briareos1> Tm_T hmm could be - but why should that suddenly change?
[09:09] <mackyman> Briareos1: Plug in the usb soundcard after boot? =P
[09:09] <nbcb> on my server i can configure firewall right? if so i'll try..
[09:09] <flaccid> i gtg
[09:09] <Tm_T> Briareos1: upstart load stuff parallel, so if one "line" is somehow slower...
[09:09] <Tm_T> nbcb: sure you can
[09:09] <Briareos1> mackyman: thats even more motion for my tired body than doin a reboot with a hit of a finger :P
[09:09] <nbcb> ok!! shall try :>
[09:10] <mackyman> heh
[09:10] <nbcb> !iptables
[09:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> i have an external hard drive, and I'm deleting a lot of stuff from it, but it's going into the trash of the harddrive inside my computer- is there any way to completely delete it without sending it to the trash?
[09:10] <Briareos1> Tm_T hmm okay - so any suggestions how i could solve that?
[09:10] <Briareos1> Tm_T could i do something in uvdev (or how that thing is named)?
[09:11] <mackyman> Briareos1: Then I'm way out of answers
[09:11] <Briareos1> udev i mean
[09:11] <Briareos1> mackyman thx anyway :)
[09:11] <Tm_T> Briareos1: hmm, blacklist usb card module and load it with delay in init 5 (or whatever it is) perhaps?
[09:11] <Tm_T> Briareos1: actually you can forget delay =)
[09:11] <Briareos1> Tm_T gg why?
[09:12] <mackyman> Briareos1: np
[09:12] <Briareos1> Tm_T i wonder why ... or better if there is an "easy end-user-solution" to this - i guess i am not the only one with it .....
[09:12] <Tm_T> well, when you hit init 5 you have done all "booting" from system point of view
[09:12] <Tm_T> Briareos1: and I know this is bit hacky one idea, but I don't have to deal with boot stuff myself so no idea for neater solution
[09:13] <Briareos1> Tm_T well at least its a nice hint :)
[09:13] <MajorApus> okay so I restarted kubuntu and I get a blank screen when x boots
[09:13] <MajorApus> it happened earlier, it also happened with gpart live cd
[09:14] <MajorApus> but I did use force vesa with gpart
[09:14] <Tm_T> MajorApus: so it's driver issue?
[09:14] <MajorApus> and that worked, so I think I need to force vesa drivers with kubuntu
[09:14] <MajorApus> i think so
[09:14] <Tm_T> MajorApus: what display driver you have?
[09:14] <MajorApus> nv
[09:15] <MajorApus> is that the correct answeR?
[09:15] <mackyman> MajorApus: yep
[09:16] <mackyman> MajorApus: Have you done: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:17] <MajorApus> alright I will do that once I get back into it
[09:17] <MajorApus> I can do that from recovery mode?
[09:17] <mackyman> Do you have links installed?
[09:18] <mackyman> You can just do it by using ctrl + alt + f1 to get to a virtual console and run the commands from there
[09:19] <workinprocess> <- needs help
[09:19] <I_Web_> -
[09:19] <I_Web_> -
[09:19] <mackyman> and if you don't have another computer to view the guide on, then you can use links to view it one another consle ( ctrl + alt + f2 )
[09:19] <I_Web_>                                          www.ask4chat.com
[09:20] <mackyman> workinprocess: what kind of help?
[09:21] <mackyman> MajorApus: Does that help?
[09:21] <MajorApus> I am printing it
[09:21] <mackyman> ahh
[09:21] <mackyman> kk
[09:21] <MajorApus> I cant get into X at all,
[09:21] <mackyman> point
[09:22] <MajorApus> so how could I even visit a website?
[09:22] <mackyman> Links
[09:22] <MajorApus> oh
[09:22] <MajorApus> well i will try
[09:22] <mackyman> with links you can surf in the terminal or in a virtual console
[09:22] <MajorApus> brb
[09:22] <mackyman> Have helped me very much
[09:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> mackyman do you mean elinks
[09:23] <mackyman> dettoaltrimenti_: I usually use links or links2'
[09:24] <mackyman> dettoaltrimenti_: majority of links2, never used elinks
[09:25] <I_Web_>                                          www.ask4chat.com
[09:25] <I_Web_> -
[09:26] <fdoving> I_Web_: what is it you're trying to do?
[09:26] <workinprocess> I need some help installing a belkins wireless g esb adapter on ubuntu. can anyone help me?
[09:26] <reldruh> hello. I'm trying to get an hp apollo p-2500 printer setup. According to linuxprinting.org it's fully supported under linux but when I try to add it there's no driver listed for it specifically, nor can I find the hpijs driver linuxprinting.org recommends. Can somebody help?
[09:27] <workinprocess> I'm a newb in ubuntu. so I need some specific step by step instructions
[09:27] <reldruh> workinprocess: I can try and help you
[09:27] <apus> alright that worked
[09:27] <apus> thanks tm_t
[09:28] <fdoving> workinprocess: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:28] <reldruh> workinprocess: if it's a usb adapter, go into konsole and run the command lsusb. See if you can find it in the list
[09:29] <Tm_T> apus: what did I do?
[09:30] <pollyo> I like that firestarter program.  It appears much simpler then guarddog in design.
[09:30] <pollyo> Can I use that on kubuntu even though it is for gnome?
[09:30] <Cosmo_> in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?
[09:30] <I_Web_> -
[09:30] <unix_infidel> pollyo: i'd imagine so.
[09:30] <I_Web_>                                          www.ask4chat.com
[09:31] <pollyo> I'm going to give it a try and uninstall guarddog if it goes well.
[09:33] <apus> im trying to mount my ntfs in a different location, so Im trying to unmount them, it wont let me
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> apus: how are you unmounting it
[09:33] <nbcb> err i need some help on iptables .. i typed iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS> and now my server can't go internet
[09:33] <apus> right clicking in conquerer and clicking unmount
[09:33] <nbcb> <IP_ADDRESS> is my modem's ip
[09:34] <nbcb> how to revert?
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> apus: something may be using it, amarok may be playing music or something
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> are you sure nothing is using it?
[09:35] <apus> nothing is using it
[09:35] <apus> I did run ntfs configuration tool
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> apus: open up konsole. sudo umount -a
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> pastebin the output
[09:35] <mackyman> pollyo: You can use firestarter, but you have too install some gnome librarys
[09:35] <Cosmo_> is the home folder all I should backup incase I run into any problems when fiesty goes live?
[09:36] <apus> it said device is busy for all mounts
[09:36] <I_Web_> -
[09:36] <I_Web_>                                          www.ask4chat.com
[09:36] <I_Web_> -
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !kops
[09:36] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> apus: only that?
[09:38] <apus> for each device is said the directory or device is busy, thats it
[09:39] <nbcb> how to revert back my iptables default settings?
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, but the output is what I need.
[09:39] <apus> !paste | apus
[09:39] <apus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16213/
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> change the directory you want
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> fdoving: thanks
[09:40] <fdoving> :)
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> then ctrl + O, enter, ctrl + X
[09:41] <space_ninja> I need a 3d model program but I can't find autocad, is there another program like that available for kubuntu?
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !autocad > Admiral_Chicago
[09:41] <nbcb> !iptables
[09:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> then sudo mount -a
[09:43] <apus> thanks,
[09:43] <apus> adept updater says I have 260 some updates available, should I update all?
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> when was the last time you updated?
[09:43] <apus> i just installed 7.04 today
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> ah then I would say yes
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> and to be fair, you installed a release candidate :)
[09:45] <apus> it just seemed like a lot of things, didn't know if it was stuff I didn't even have
[09:46] <mackyman> !autocad > mackyman
[09:46] <apus> the fstab file looks correct, but changes didn't take effect
[09:48] <pollyo> How do you setup remote console with ssh?
[09:48] <pollyo> Or is it already setup on ubuntu?
[09:49] <Cosmo_> is the home folder all I should backup incase I run into any problems when fiesty goes live?
[09:50] <fdoving> pollyo: yoou need to have the 'ssh-server' package installed to provide the remote login service via ssh.
[09:50] <apus> will the fstab file only take effect after a reset
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> apus: sudo mount -a will do the same thing, unless there is an error
[09:51] <pollyo> fdoving: Thank you
[09:52] <Sanjeet> Yo.
[09:53] <twentyafterfour> Hello kubuntu,  world
[09:53] <Cosmo_> in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?
[09:54] <twentyafterfour> cosmo: did you have both monitors plugged in when you turned the system on?  ....check connections.
[09:55] <Cosmo_> twentyafterfour: yes I did
[09:55] <apus> how do I remove a directory
[09:55] <Sanjeet> rmdir
[09:56] <apus> im supose to know that for school
[09:56] <Cosmo_> I had just rebooted from windows where I had both monitors working this time
[09:56] <Sanjeet> apus: Have a cookie.
[09:57] <apus> man pages arn't usefull if you dont know the command name :P
[09:57] <apus> besides, I can hide behind my noob status for a good 3 months
[09:58] <Sanjeet> [03:55:23] 	<Sanjeet>	rmdir
[09:58] <twentyafterfour> cosmo - both of them used to work on ubuntu as well?  I have nvidia as well but I usually don't use the settings manager because it makes lame xorg.conf files - you might want to look for a backup file - there are usually several versions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - one of the backups might work correctly.
[09:58] <Sanjeet> rmdir -r directoryname will force removal of the directory, even if files exist
[09:59] <apus> wow, amarok apparently has no problem opening two instances and playing the song twice, off sync, because I still double click
[09:59] <Sanjeet> apus: XMMS!
[09:59] <apus> well luckily for me it was empty
[09:59] <apus> xmms?
[09:59] <apus> sanjeet, do you use konversation
[09:59] <twentyafterfour> strange. heh. you can turn of the single-click activation if you don't like it
[10:00] <apus> I might get used to it, we will see
[10:00] <apus> Im hard core XP fan, i have it tweaked out to no end
[10:00] <apus> im big on having things exactly how I want them and what not
[10:00] <apus> why did I switch?...   .... beryl
[10:01] <twentyafterfour> I'm still not too sure.  It either gets unleashed on you or Oracle.
[10:04] <Sanjeet> or I fall asleep because it's 4am
[10:04] <unix_infidel> Sanjeet: lol @ Oracle
[10:04] <twentyafterfour> fanboyism
[10:04] <twentyafterfour> where is that channel
[10:05] <Sanjeet> No idea.
[10:05] <apus> nice all my hdds mounted
[10:05] <unix_infidel> Sanjeet: convince your CTO to upgrade to a real DBMS
[10:05] <unix_infidel> :P
[10:06] <apus> is konquerer the main file browser?
[10:06] <Sanjeet> unix_infidel: it's a personal choice. Just takes a hell of a long time to get all the stuff up and running
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> apus: yes.
[10:06] <Sanjeet> I love Oracle, we're just having some issues right now.
[10:06] <unix_infidel> our stuff has too many dimensions to use a simple relational system.
[10:07] <unix_infidel> glad i dont have to admin :)
[10:07] <Sanjeet> heh
[10:07] <Sanjeet> What RDBMS do you use?
[10:07] <apus> anything wrong with putting music on the slowest drive on the system?
[10:07] <unix_infidel> apus: no, its advised.
[10:08] <unix_infidel> music usually takes up less than 256kbps
[10:08] <unix_infidel> in bw
[10:08] <apus> cool, I formated that drive fat32 to be my transfer drive if necessary
[10:08] <apus> and then realized, music is good on any os
[10:08] <unix_infidel> Sanjeet: 10g
[10:08] <unix_infidel> apus: personally, i like my music on fat32
[10:08] <unix_infidel> its easily accessible on any os.
[10:08] <Sanjeet> unix_infidel: And do you hate it?
[10:08] <apus> so I could do this with a gui, or I could be all cool high technically (super paper mario reference) and use konsoel
[10:09] <Sanjeet> I like 10G
[10:09] <unix_infidel> Sanjeet: no, but i dont get paid to make it work either.
[10:09] <mackyman> apus: I will have my music on a special server, only for my music, so that i don't have to take up valuble disk-space for it (grumbles at my way to big music collection )
[10:09] <Sanjeet> I'm already there. It's quite silent.
[10:09] <apus> how do I "cd" based on root, rather than current directory
[10:09] <Sanjeet> cd /place/
[10:10] <apus> how much mackyman
[10:10] <Sanjeet> cd /usr/bin/
[10:10] <apus> okay so the leading / is the trick
[10:10] <Sanjeet> I think so.
[10:10] <mackyman> ~30gb =/
[10:10] <Sanjeet> t
[10:10] <Sanjeet> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk ] 0
[10:10] <Sanjeet> mkj
[10:10] <apus> and I just regretted using caps for the drive names,
[10:10] <Sanjeet> z m
[10:10] <flaccid> yeah / makes it absolute ./ and ../ are relative
[10:10] <apus> thats not too bad macky
[10:10] <Sanjeet> Whoops.
[10:10] <Sanjeet> Dozing off...
[10:10] <apus> I have 250 gigs of tv shows and movies....that I own legally
[10:10] <Sanjeet> o.O
[10:10] <unix_infidel> apus: that's quite a lot in "legal" media
[10:11] <twentyafterfour> ln -s /CAPS_NAME /lowercase_name
[10:11] <mackyman> apus: I guess this duscussion belongs in offtopic =P
[10:11] <mackyman> Aye, back to work anyway
[10:11] <mackyman> bbl
[10:11] <apus> a friend of mine said he will start to buy dvds legit once we get jobs, (we are in college) but he will still rip them to lossless avi files, because he doesn't like watching the intro you cant skip on a dvd player
[10:12] <flaccid> lets stay on topic
[10:13] <Sanjeet> flaccid: What the hell "on topic" are we gonna talk about?
[10:13] <apus> how do I safely purge my fstab i have some duplicate entries
[10:13] <Sanjeet> The detraction is a good indication of the fact that Linux isn't actually that interesting at 4am
[10:13] <Sanjeet> apus: By hand?
[10:13] <fdoving> Sanjeet: if ther is nothing, then please don't talk.
[10:13] <twentyafterfour> yeah ...  how broad is acceptable, without straying? isn't "Kubuntu" a pretty vague topic?
[10:13] <flaccid> its called idling
[10:13] <apus> is there a command sanjeet?
[10:14] <fdoving> twentyafterfour: the topis is not "kubuntu", it's "Kubuntu support".
[10:14] <Sanjeet> fdoving: "A fool speaks when he has to say something, a wise man speaks when he has something to say"
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> our channel's topic begins "Kubuntu Support Channel"
[10:14] <flaccid> apus: edit it with a text editor. sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:14] <apus> cringe at nano
[10:14] <apus> kate all the way man
[10:14] <apus> beryl, package manager, and kate
[10:14] <apus> thats why i switched
[10:14] <fdoving> Sanjeet: right, but the wise man states his opinions in the right places too.
[10:14] <flaccid> well you don't compare a gui to a tui
[10:14] <Sanjeet> fdoving: Why am I proving YOUR point?
[10:15] <flaccid> i use kate all day at work.
[10:15] <flaccid> hehe
[10:16] <apus> if I remove entries from fstab, then go to the disk utility, i can redo it right?
[10:16] <flaccid> yeah you can add / remove entries in fstab whenever
[10:16] <fdoving> apus: it's often smart to use # in the beginning of lines instead of removing them. that way it's easier to get back to the one tha worked.
[10:16] <flaccid> you can unmount drivers using umount and you can mount all in fstab by mount -a or just mount a single drive in fstab: mount /mnt/mountpoint
[10:17] <apus> # is comment in system files?
[10:17] <flaccid> drivers=drives
[10:17] <flaccid> most will use # has a comment. sometimes ;
[10:17] <flaccid> has=as
[10:17] <apus> im a flast learner you watch out
[10:17] <flaccid> im watching
[10:18] <flaccid> :)
[10:18] <apus> we use linux for class (aerospace engineering) but its a bad set up of redhat
[10:18] <apus> just to give you an idea, its dual core hyperthreading xeons
[10:18] <apus> but a single thread can only use 25% cpu
[10:19] <apus> thats not normal is it?
[10:19] <flaccid> i don't know. it has nothign to do with kubuntu
[10:21] <twentyafterfour> fdoving: thanks
[10:21] <unix_infidel> apus: are you using a smp kernel?
[10:21] <unix_infidel> are your applications built optimized for your procs?
[10:22] <apus> I wouldn't know, those are lab computers, but they arn't optimized
[10:22] <flaccid> and they are running redhat lol?
[10:22] <apus> we run single threaded fortran, but the system sees the hyperthreaded core as 2 cores
[10:22] <apus> yes flaccid
[10:23] <flaccid> sounds pretty uncutting edge to me
[10:23] <apus> so it sees 4 cores, thus 25% cpu ussage, it sucks
[10:23] <unix_infidel> lol @ fortran
[10:23] <apus> fortran has its place actually
[10:23] <apus> but yeah its funny
[10:23] <unix_infidel> i'm sure it does.
[10:23] <flaccid> it did have its place. correction.
[10:23] <apus> "what language do you know"  "fortran" .... .... *crickets*   "wtf is fortran"
[10:23] <flaccid> they probably are not using a SMP kernel little lone any kernel flags/optimisation
[10:23] <apus> actually it still does flaccid, it is the fastest number cruncher
[10:24] <flaccid> that is very arguable
[10:24] <unix_infidel> well, they do make some very good wrappers.
[10:24] <flaccid> in fact that is wrong, but since this is #kubuntu i won't waste my breathe
[10:24] <apus> wrong? whats faster
[10:24] <flaccid> maybe discuss it in #fortran
[10:24] <unix_infidel> i think we're about to be jedi'd
[10:24] <flaccid> or #redhat
[10:24] <apus> please dont say a language that uses pointers
[10:25] <flaccid> im not going to say anything because this is not the place to do so
[10:25] <apus> actually tho, aside from redhat, our university is very up to date, the IT department actually gets the money they need
[10:25] <flaccid> i might start policing like Jucato
[10:26] <apus> how do I give myself permissions on the drives I just mounted
[10:27] <pollyo> How can I tell if the ssh-server is running?
[10:27] <flaccid> apus: chmod
[10:27] <fdoving> apus: i usually mount them as myself, if they are removable or if they don't support linux acl/permissions.
[10:27] <flaccid> and also chown to change ownership
[10:28] <flaccid> what type of file system
[10:28] <apus> I need to do it for a ntfs, a fat32 and a ext3
[10:28] <fdoving> pollyo: 'ps ax|grep sshd'
[10:28] <flaccid> !ntfs
[10:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:28] <fdoving> apus: is the ext3 removable?
[10:28] <pollyo> Thank yo
[10:28] <pollyo> you
[10:28] <flaccid> apus: ^^ use the guide above to use the correct masks
[10:29] <apus> they are all intenall if thats what you are asking
[10:29] <fdoving> apus: ok. follow the guide :)
[10:29] <apus> oh man
[10:29] <apus> thats big and long
[10:29] <apus> they are already mounted, and I can read them
[10:29] <fdoving> and usefull :)
[10:29] <apus> I just cant write
[10:30] <apus> whats a mask?
[10:30] <apus> actually, that guide doesn't seem to have permissions
[10:31] <flaccid> rw option in fstab
[10:31] <flaccid> apus: it does
[10:31] <flaccid> 1sec i think they changed it
[10:31] <apus> so like, rw--rw
[10:32] <rok> where to find synaptic for kubuntu ?
[10:32] <apus> I remember that from like highschool man, I had to ssh and all that to a webserver, it was kreepy and little evil linux men in red coats tried to kidnapp me
[10:32] <apus> but it was okay because ssh is secure
[10:32] <flaccid> im on phone brb
[10:36] <flaccid> apus: see where it uses ro as an option - that means read only. use rw instead
[10:36] <apus> the properties of my mounted drives seem to be messed they all say 25 free of 29 gigs, but thats way off
[10:36] <apus> in the fstab file?
[10:37] <apus> no nvm
[10:37] <apus> before I do that I need to make sure they are the right partitions, right click properties isn't giving me the right free space
[10:38] <flaccid> there is a technical reason for the difference. but i can't explain. 1 is the calculation based on 1000 or 1024 and the other is space required for format
[10:39] <flaccid> read apus.
[10:40] <apus> I fixed it, they somehow weren't mounted, so the free space was what was left on my kubuntu partition
[10:41] <ubuntu> hi folks
[10:41] <cinex> if I resize a partition with qtparted will it keep the data intact?
[10:42] <apus> okay so I have the correct drives all mounted, I can read all of them, how do I change the permissions for the current user to full acess all all 3 drives
[10:42] <cinex> you can do it in the fstab ap ?
[10:42] <cinex> apus**
[10:42] <apus> dont ask me im noob
[10:42] <apus> can I?
[10:42] <cinex> I think so
[10:42] <cinex> google /etc/fstab
[10:43] <fdoving> apus: for ntfs you probably need to use another driver ntfs-3g or what it's called.
[10:43] <fdoving> apus: for fat it's pretty easy, mount it with your own uid= in fstab.
[10:44] <apus> one of them is mounted "rw" in fstab but I still cant write
[10:44] <fdoving> for ext3, change permissions 'sudo chown yourusername.yourgroupname -R /media/ext3disk'
[10:44] <apus> how do I find my groupname
[10:44] <fdoving> it's the same as your username.
[10:45] <apus> nice, I got the ext3
[10:46] <fdoving> now for fat,  can you paste the fstab line for it?
[10:46] <apus>  /dev/sdc1 /mount/data3 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[10:46] <fdoving> ok. change it to:
[10:48] <fdoving> apus: /dev/sdc /mount/data3 vfat defaults,uid=youruid 0 0
[10:48] <fdoving> apus: you can find your uid with the command 'id -u' in a konsole.
[10:48] <fdoving> it's probably 1000
[10:50] <apus> nice, got the fat working
[10:50] <apus> that leaves ntfs
[10:50] <apus> wait
[10:50] <fdoving> apus: that one you need to figure out yourself. i haven't used ntfs in 10 years.
[10:50] <fdoving> !ntfs-3g | apus
[10:51] <ubotu> apus: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:51] <apus> it is working
[10:51] <apus> somehow it started working
[10:51] <fdoving> voodoo magic :)
[10:52] <apus> the way beryl installs is insane
[10:52] <apus> you copy paste 2 things! omg
[10:52] <twentyafterfour_> hey that obotu is pretty cool
[10:52] <fdoving> ubotu: botsnack
[10:52] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:52] <_4strO> lol
[10:56] <zorglu_> q. is feisty officially out ?
[10:57] <txwikinger> zorglu_: IIRC Feisty will official be released tomorrow
[10:58] <txwikinger> +ly
[10:58] <zorglu_> txwikinger: ok thanks. how is the process to upgrade from edgy ? i mean how many people meets issue when upgrading ?
[10:58] <apus> whats pcm in regard to audio
[10:59] <apus> is that what "wav" is from the windows audio panel
[10:59] <zorglu_> apus: this is a format of sound data
[10:59] <txwikinger> You can upgrade by using the upgrade manager
[10:59] <apus> so the pcm slider changes pretty much all audio levels
[10:59] <txwikinger> There are some issues, but there is also a lot of improvement, and maybe until tomorrow the issues will be resolved too
[10:59] <zorglu_> txwikinger: yep that i understand :) i ask for a field experience of how many bug reported :)
[11:00] <zorglu_> txwikinger: ah ok thanks :)
[11:00] <lol7> hi
[11:00] <txwikinger> hi lol7
[11:01] <apus> omg amarok is the best ever
[11:01] <apus> it scanned for and found 10 gigs of music and sorted/whatnot in like 20 seconds
[11:01] <apus> klipper  omg,
[11:02] <apus> guys im excited
[11:05] <apus> how do I change default browser
[11:06] <_4strO> apus: syste'm setting / default app
[11:06] <apus> im not gonna lie, there is about 8 hours of nightmare between downloading the kubuntu iso and getting everything going, but I can already see I'm going to like the switch
[11:08] <_4strO> apus: 8 hours ?
[11:08] <_4strO> i downloaded the iso in 1h
[11:08] <apus> well first it wouldn't start x correctly it was using the wrong driver
[11:09] <apus> finally got into it, then k3b woulnd't burn a cd i needed to repartition, amarok wouldn't load, i couldn't see my ntfs, i had to mess with mounting
[11:09] <lupul> does anyone know where stores amarok the album covers?
[11:09] <apus> didn't have audio,
[11:10] <apus> we also downloaded and tried 3 different isos before we figured out how to boot
[11:11] <apus> but i must sleep
[11:11] <apus> bye and thanks all
[11:11] <_4strO> lupul: ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[11:11] <_4strO> lol apus
[11:13] <lupul> ok
[11:13] <lupul> thanks
[11:13] <flaccid> sweet at least apus is sorted
[11:17] <johnt> Hi Folks I would like some help to edit a .wmf file please
[11:18] <johnt> anyone???
[11:18] <_4strO> johnt: ?
[11:19] <johnt> Yes I am trying to open a wmf file to compare it but Gedit refuses saying it does not understand the encoding
[11:19] <_4strO> johnt: try edit them with openoffice
[11:20] <johnt> O-O Open office????
[11:20] <_4strO> johnt: yes
[11:20] <johnt> I never thought of that ok then I will try
[11:21] <flaccid> a wmf file is not text
[11:21] <_4strO> http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200701-07.xml
[11:21] <flaccid> try a graphics application to open it
[11:22] <_4strO> ooo can manage i think
[11:22] <flaccid> sorry do you want to edit it or use it in a document?
[11:22] <flaccid> _4strO: Ooo can edit the file instead of just embedding it?
[11:24] <_4strO> dont know, never user a type of file like this ;:p
[11:24] <flaccid> hehe
[11:24] <_4strO> f0ck pseudo microsoft files
[11:24] <doneill> i hate filing bugs for two separate programs not 'jiving.'
[11:24] <_4strO> johnt: and then ?
[11:25] <doneill> it's very hard to decide which one isn't doing the correct thing, when there's gray area in how they are supposed to act, exactly.
[11:25] <flaccid> it would need a wrapper at least as its vector: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Metafile
 Sorry I am a bit slow. No go with oo it claims the files are corrupt trys to repair then fails
[11:26] <_4strO> johnt: ok
[11:27] <doneill> skencil can use it.
[11:27] <doneill> or inkscape
[11:27] <doneill> found in adept
[11:27] <_4strO> flaccid: the first para after the menu is 'SetAbortProc exploit'
[11:27] <_4strO> ^^
 the graphics aps do not open it either
[11:28] <_4strO> johnt: perhaps you have to import it
[11:28] <_4strO> not simply open
[11:28] <doneill> as i say... inkscape can read wmf files, as can skencil.
[11:28] <flaccid> yeah
[11:29] <flaccid> _4strO: do you wanna advise johnt to not use it?
[11:29] <flaccid> doneill: sorry i must of missed your msg
[11:30] <_4strO> flaccid: no just kidding
[11:30] <doneill> didn't mean to repeat myself, but i forgot to mention that i was talking about wmf
[11:30] <flaccid> hehe
[11:30] <flaccid> ah ok coo doneill
[11:30] <johnt> the reason I want to read the files is because I am playing around with a terrain editor in "widelands" but my edits do give me a headquarters buidling but the maps with the game do so i want to read the file and see what I have missed
[11:30] <flaccid> try the two programs doneill suggest i guess
[11:31] <flaccid> or use windows
[11:31] <johnt> building
[11:31] <flaccid> sweet
[11:31] <doneill> i have windows running on an old pc, here
[11:31] <doneill> i compile win32 stuff on it, and dust it off to play, when i feel i'm losing touch with mainstream 'puters.
[11:32] <doneill> so i have a question, is it kosher to e-mail a package maintainer directly regarding a bug found in their package
[11:32] <johnt> So apt-get install skensil????
[11:32] <_4strO> johnt: sudo apt-get ...
[11:32] <doneill> johnt: if you'd like, if you prefer apt over adept.
[11:33] <doneill> don't forget to do 'sudo' if you aren't logged in as root
[11:33] <flaccid> doneill: sometimes but generally if its a bug put it on launchpad
[11:34] <doneill> well i have done that much
[11:34] <doneill> so i guess i'll refrain, don't want to hound the guy... yet.
[11:34] <johnt> Thanks all will go and try that
[11:34] <flaccid> thats all you need to do
[11:34] <doneill> it's something of a last straw for me
[11:34] <flaccid> i know what you mean doneill but its not goign to help
[11:35] <flaccid> i get this feeling a lot myself
[11:35] <flaccid> eg. mythtv. but they are finally doing something about that package
[11:36] <doneill> they disabled support for the standard internet protocol in feisty for a while, to cater to legacy devices which only understood the deprecated version...
[11:36] <doneill> but that's because enough people complained :(
[11:36] <flaccid> which protocol?
[11:37] <doneill> Ipv6.
[11:37] <doneill> recently, it has been fixed, mind you.
[11:37] <flaccid> err so there is no problem
[11:37] <doneill> heh
[11:37] <mornfall> hello
[11:37] <doneill> not in that package at least...
[11:37] <flaccid> so why need to email
[11:37] <flaccid> well you have filed a bug
[11:37] <mornfall> anyone with pxe images for kubuntu installer?
[11:37] <doneill> because that's only one of several problems my ipv6-only systems have lately
[11:37] <flaccid> im sure you don't need ipv6
[11:38] <doneill> ifup fails to configure ipv6 on any system with ipv6 compiled into the kernel
[11:38] <doneill> er, i don't use ipv4 at all :/
[11:38] <doneill> at least not this side of my siit router
[11:38] <pollyo> Can anyone suggest a all-in-one printer that works well with linux?
[11:39] <doneill> pollyo, i would be hard-pressed to suggent a printer in any form which works at all with any linux.
[11:39] <doneill> suggest*
[11:39] <flaccid> doneill: ok thats cool. its a bit early to go pure ipv6 so i understand your concern. one can only wait in this open world sometimes
[11:39] <flaccid> http://linux-printing.org
[11:39] <pollyo> doneill: I understand.
[11:40] <txwikinger> pollyo: HP provides a lot of support for Linux including HP-LIP toolbox
[11:40] <pollyo> Anyone have experience with the HP printer system?
[11:40] <flaccid> http://linuxprinting.org/
[11:40] <doneill> flaccid: oh, i still use ipv4 programs, i just run them over ipv6, such as world of warcraft, amarok, stuff like that.
[11:40] <pollyo> flaccid: I'll take another look at those.
[11:40] <txwikinger> I use HP printer under linux for a long time and haven't had a lot of problems
[11:40] <doneill> i'm an early adopter of up and coming technologies, such as linux.  probably why i'm one of the oldest dogs in OSS.
[11:41] <flaccid> yeah but the internet is not ready for you
[11:41] <flaccid> no are some applications sady
[11:41] <pollyo> txwikinger: I can not get a good idea of how well HP printers work.  I have a 712c and it is one of the non-standard printers that do not work with the hp software for linux.
[11:41] <flaccid> sadly
[11:41] <doneill> yeah, but i have that worked out too.
[11:41] <flaccid> but i love your stye, doneill
[11:41] <doneill> i wrote a little gem called tlib
[11:41] <doneill> it wraps syscalls and adapts all ipv4 programs to understand ipv6 almost completely.
[11:41] <doneill> i play world of warcraft daily :)
[11:42] <flaccid> cool
[11:42] <txwikinger> pollyo: I think the 712c has the windows driver partly inplemented inside the firmware or something like that ?
[11:42] <pollyo> txwikinger: I have no idea.  The print quality sucks in linux. That much I know.
[11:42] <txwikinger> ah.
[11:42] <doneill> if the world isn't 'ready' for ipv6, it isn't 'ready' for a linux desktop.
[11:43] <doneill> the problem isn't support really, it's just adapting to different ways of doing things, and culture shock.
[11:43] <txwikinger> The best is probably to look 1) if the vendor officially supports linux, and 2) on the webpage above, what is stated there about the printer
[11:43] <flaccid> pollyo: you know nothing then.
[11:43] <pollyo> flaccid: lol
[11:43] <doneill> when you give up windows you give up a lot of things, and have to hack others, such as wine to make flash animations
[11:43] <pollyo> flaccid: When it comes to linux... I know just about nothing.
[11:43] <flaccid> doneill: hey i agree. im waiting for uptake of SPF for every mail server in the world. is it going to hapen?
[11:44] <flaccid> pollyo: then don't comment on it and give the wrong idea please
[11:44] <flaccid> there are IDEs available to create flash that are open
[11:44] <pollyo> flaccid: I'm commenting on the printer I have.
[11:44] <flaccid> you don't need wine for flash
[11:44] <nbcb> hi i need to watch a video clip on cnn website using firefox in kubuntu but it says i need windows media player.. can i still watch?
[11:44] <doneill> it's possible, but not likely, because nobody has the obligation of pending doom if they don't...
[11:44] <doneill> :)
[11:44] <nbcb> i do have mplayer though
[11:44] <flaccid> pollyo: the whole world does not have your printer so dont make a general comment like that on linux
[11:45] <doneill> nbcb: you can, but they may not let you, heh.
[11:45] <pollyo> flaccid: What comment specifically?
[11:45] <nbcb> what?
[11:45] <pollyo> flaccid: I said my printer doesn't print as well as it does in windows.
[11:45] <flaccid> doneill: thats the case with anything. nobody has to adopt anything. does it matter? yes.
[11:45] <nbcb> is there any way to fake the site to play the video using mplayer?
[11:45] <flaccid> pollyo: [2007-04-18 19:42]  <pollyo> txwikinger: I have no idea.  The print quality sucks in linux.   I have the printer setup in cups.
[11:48] <flaccid> you can't come to a conclusion of linux even with your hardware if you know nothing about linux.. and you admitted that
[11:48] <elbing> I'm living without windows from 9 years ago. When I buy any hardware, sound card, printer or whatever, I buy a hard I know it will work with my OS (*BSD, Linux or AIX). If I bought a printer that was made for windows, then I'll print in windows.
[11:48] <doneill> pollyo: in that case, check your cups configuration using your local tool, be it your browser or kde control centre...
[11:49] <doneill> elbing: i just write drivers.
[11:49] <elbing> doneill: ok
[11:49] <flaccid> elbing: agreed.
[11:49] <doneill> i have wifi and audio which doesn't work on my laptop.  and for "doesn't work" my music sounds great and my link is stable.
[11:49] <flaccid> doneill: then release those drivers to the community please.
[11:50] <doneill> i have been
[11:50] <doneill> don't worry yourself :)
[11:50] <flaccid> ok cool then
[11:50] <doneill> i thought i mentioned i'm oss
[11:50] <flaccid> which drivers for which models?
[11:50] <elbing> here in my job, we have two pcl printers, one works with linux, one not. We have two subnets, one is active directory. Life is hard if you want
[11:50] <flaccid> doneill: provide links?
[11:50] <johnt> I got a fail with inkscape small paste to follow
[11:50] <doneill> bcm43xx, and the sound i just wangled
[11:50] <doneill> didn't code anything for it
[11:50] <johnt> code  : 3
[11:50] <johnt> what  : Couldn't recognise the image file format for file '/usr/share/games/wide lands/maps/Checkmate.wmf'
[11:52] <flaccid> right so you don't write drivers. thought so.
[11:53] <_4strO> johnt: did you try to import them in ooo (not open them)
[11:54] <asterix14> hallo und guten tag zusammen
 No I do not know how to do that. Do I select import then what??
[11:55] <flaccid> !de
[11:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:55] <flaccid> hallo asterix14
[11:55] <nbcb> hi i need to watch a video clip on cnn website using firefox in kubuntu but it says i need windows media player.. can i still watch?
[11:55] <flaccid> oh
[11:55] <flaccid> sorry asterix14
 No I do not know how to do that. Do I select import then what??
[11:55] <asterix14> hallo flaccid
[11:55] <flaccid> heh i didn't even read what you said. what is zusammen
[11:55] <flaccid> asterix14: sorry bad german
[11:56] <_4strO> johnt: ... then you selct your file ...
[11:56] <asterix14> ah
 OK I will go look see what happens
[11:56] <elbing> nbcb: check web source and open the stream link into your kaffeine or xine
[11:58] <nbcb> well i'm really interested in watching the clips about the gunman at VT on cnn website but need windows media player
[11:58] <nbcb> the location is javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/ireports/2007/04/16/ireport.va.tech.shooting.cnn','2009/04/15');
[11:59] <nbcb> how to change it into xine or kaffeine
[12:00] <flaccid> nbcb: ask the developer of the site to use free formats
[12:00] <_4strO> nbcb: by send a mail to the webmaster of the website and asing him to let choice the player ...
[12:01] <_4strO> flaccid: :p
[12:01] <doneill> flaccid: well, there was one for an S3 Savage Twister, but that was just updating the driver to support it.
[12:01] <doneill> most hardware released as 'new' is based on a previous model with a corresponding module and support already written.
[12:01] <nbcb> ic.. its www.cnn.com
[12:02] <flaccid> doneill: i don't care.
[12:02] <doneill> ignorance is bliss...
[12:02] <doneill> but you seem pretty bitter.
[12:02] <nbcb> they would probably ask me to use windows..zzz
 Hate to admit this but I cant find any "import" export yes but not import oo word
[12:03] <flaccid> doneill: there is no tone on irc.
[12:04] <doneill> no, but there is apathy.
[12:04] <_4strO> johnt: will have a look
[12:04] <flaccid> its pretty basic. don't claim to write drivers if you have only 'updated' one.
[12:04] <flaccid> no there isn't doneill
[12:04] <flaccid> lets move on shall we.
[12:04] <doneill> several, thanks.
[12:05] <flaccid> !offtopic > don
[12:05] <flaccid> !offtopic > doneill
[12:05] <_4strO> johnt: strange, in the open box he let me choice wmf file type
[12:05] <flaccid> lets talk about ubuntu and not writing drivers.
 Hate to admit this but I cant find any "import" export yes but not import oo word
[12:05] <doneill> um, right.  elbing, which versions of PCL are they using and/or do you know if the printers support them?
 Sorry
[12:06] <doneill> sorry, pollyo* that was for you.
 Yes for me too but when I try to execute it says the file is corrupt I kanow the files are readable by "wide lands"
[12:07] <elbing> doneill: one is a samsung clp-510 with its own ppd, the other is a konica without ppd
[12:09] <doneill> so what's wrong with the quality?
[12:10] <doneill> i mean, the obvious road would be to simply fix that issue instead of buying a new MFC altogether, right?
[12:14] <johnt> I will try some more searching I guess thanks to all   Bye for now
[12:31] <elbing> doneill: sorry, I was with a customer. MFC? I got an MFC brother running with linux
[12:31] <flaccid> hehe
[12:36] <elles> hello
[12:48] <Hc\\> !wine
[12:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:51] <Hc\\> why can't i get wine down?
[12:52] <Tm_T> Hc\\: you don't use axe large enough
[12:52] <Hc\\> sudo apt-get install Wine, aint working, what did i do wrong?
[12:52] <Hc\\> Tm_T axe?
[12:52] <Tm_T> stupid joke :)
[12:52] <Ilokaasu> :P
[12:52] <Tm_T> Hc\\: how it doesn't work?
[12:52] <Tm_T> "doesn't work" tells nothing
[12:53] <Hc\\> unable to lock the administration dirctory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:53] <pollyo> Hc\\: Could it be the cap W?
[12:53] <Hc\\> thats what it says
[12:54] <Hc\\> all i got on is konqueror and shell
[01:00] <flaccid> !lock
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <fdoving> Hc\\: try 'sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[01:01] <flaccid> nice
[01:02] <flaccid> can that be added to factoids for ubotu, fdoving?
[01:02] <fdoving> flaccid: it is there.
[01:02] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[01:02] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:03] <mornfall> ick...
[01:03] <mornfall> poor me
[01:03] <flaccid> oh sweet
[01:03] <flaccid> !find crash
[01:03] <ubotu> Found: crash, crashmail, crashme, lcrash, lcrash-dev
[01:03] <flaccid> hmm that only searches packages?
[01:04] <nokus>
[01:04] <BluesKaj> !ru
[01:04] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:04] <nokus>
[01:05] <mornfall> dlq? interesting transcription
[01:05] <mornfall> q = ja
[01:05] <mornfall> :-)
[01:06] <mornfall> anyway
[01:06] <mornfall> any volunteers to fix adept?
[01:06] <mornfall> :]
[01:06] <fdoving> mornfall: no progress in development?.
[01:07] <Hc\\> oh no, i got AMD64, and tried to install it so no wonder that it aint working :D
[01:07] <mornfall> fdoving: unfortunately, i have 2 parttime jobs and a thesis to write
[01:08] <mornfall> plus real life, which may be more of a problem than those three
[01:08] <Ace2016> HI all
[01:09] <charlesHKG> is there any internet radio player like winamp, real player or windows media player that you can use in kubuntu without having to save the url for each and every station???
[01:09] <mornfall> charlesHKG: tried dropping the url on amarok? (just guessing)
[01:09] <fdoving> mornfall: ok. i can help with small fixes. do you use the kde bts?
[01:09] <Ace2016> Is it possible to use two mice at once and have say mouse 1 have the normal commands but the second mouse's button 1 mapped to xorgs button 6 or something and have it do totally different commands?????
[01:10] <charlesHKG> right.....each and every url.....
[01:10] <Ace2016> charlesHKG: Your not asking for a player are you, are you after some sort of app with a list of internet radio stations???
[01:11] <charlesHKG> ok....then is there an app with a list of internet radio stations???
[01:11] <mornfall> charlesHKG: maybe you could put them into the playlist sidebar (there's already a bunch of stations there)
[01:11] <mornfall> charlesHKG: playlists -> radio stations
[01:11] <mornfall> s/stations/streams/
[01:11] <Ace2016> charlesHKG: yup its called tunapie, it has internet radio and tv
[01:12] <charlesHKG> tunapie?
[01:12] <charlesHKG> ok
[01:12] <Ace2016> charlesHKG: yup
[01:12] <mornfall> fdoving: i do, but right now, the stable and development codebases are pretty much diverged
[01:12] <mornfall> fdoving: and i need to finish the dev one to make sense...
[01:12] <mornfall> either way, shower, bbl
[01:15] <BluesKaj> charlesHKG, if you install the latest amarok, it comes with several hundred internet radio stns in it's playlist by default, if this is what you're looking for.
[01:23] <hans> Why can't amarok and kaffeine play files over smb:// ???
[01:23] <hans> and how can i get it to work?
[01:23] <hans> Do I have to use NFS?
[01:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> I'm using Wireless Assistant to connect to my wireless connection, but I have to enter my root password every time I want to start it, and when it disconnects (when I close my laptop, hibernate, anything like that) it won't automatically reconnect. Is there a program that doesn't require the root password and will automatically connect to a preferred network?
[01:25] <fdoving> hans: you should mount the network filesystem to a mountpoint, with for example  the program 'sbm4k', then play from the mounted location. only some programs understands the smb:// addresses.
[01:26] <hans> Well I am on myndng arou laptop.. so it would be nice if I could use a solution that would be tolerant of me roami
[01:27] <hans> is there another program other than smb4k in my experience that causes nothing but trouble
[01:28] <fdoving> hans, there is one more, that does the same job, i don't use it, but i'll find the name for you. hang on.
[01:28] <fdoving> hans: komba2
[01:29] <hans> Ok thanks. I will try out both then
[01:29] <_4strO> hans: did you have the smbclient installed ?
[01:30] <_4strO> hans: dpkg -l | grep smbclient
[01:30] <hans> yes i have smbclient
[01:30] <_4strO> hans: the just use konsueror to browse
[01:30] <_4strO> hans: then just use konsueror to browse
[01:32] <_4strO> when i browse the samba network with konqueror, i've just to click on a file to open it
[01:32] <_4strO> if I click some movie files, kaffeine just read it (over the network)
[01:33] <hans> well mine doesn't
[01:34] <hans> Fresh install of feisty
[01:34] <_4strO> same as i
[01:34] <shawn34> hans, you mean from browser or from file manager?
[01:35] <hans> konqueror
[01:35] <_4strO> hans: think your new user isn't known by the smb server ..
[01:35] <steven_> hello
[01:35] <shawn34> hans, yes but do you mean its not working for local files? or something on a website
[01:35] <asturcuelebre> NL
[01:36] <hans> Amarok says: No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported
[01:36] <hans> I can play the files if I copy them over
[01:36] <hans> The files are on my local smb server
[01:36] <iGadget> hi
[01:37] <iGadget> just tried kubuntu-feisty-beta
[01:37] <steven_> whats it like
[01:37] <iGadget> and updated
[01:37] <iGadget> but... there's no desktop effects anywhere
[01:37] <iGadget> is it an optional package?
[01:38] <_4strO> iGadget: nop, they are not active
[01:39] <_4strO> hans: i have the same pb with amarok (but not w<ith kaffeine)
[01:39] <iGadget> _4strO: okay, but can they be enabled? Ubuntu has this nice little 'enable desktop effects' control applet
[01:39] <iGadget> but I can't find anything like that in kubuntu
[01:39] <_4strO> iGadget: i dont really know becaus i'm using beryl :p
[01:41] <iGadget> _4strO: I see... but they're merging again with compiz, aren't they? So beryl is going to dissappear sometime soon I guess?
[01:41] <_4strO> iGadget: try : desktop-effect in your konsole ;)
[01:41] <iGadget> will try :)
[01:42] <_4strO> iGadget: try desktop-eff + <TAB>
[01:42] <_4strO> dont know the exact name
[01:42] <iGadget> _4strO: the package desktop-effects doesn't seem to be installed at all
[01:43] <iGadget> I wonder what happens when I manually install it, cause it's a gnome-optimized package I presume?
[01:44] <_4strO> iGadget: dont know
[01:44] <fdoving> hans, your problem is actually that amarok defaults to the xine engine, which does not understand smb:// urls.
[01:44] <shawn34> !ipaq
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipaq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <_4strO> fdoving: gstreamer engine can ?
[01:45] <iGadget> Is the any way I can see in Adept if a given package is gtk or qt optimized?
[01:45] <shawn34> anyone know of a good howto to get windows mobile pocketpc to sync w/kontact via usb ?
[01:45] <livingdaylight> Its the final countdown!!!
[01:45] <_4strO> and why kaffeine does (it's using xine engin too)
[01:46] <iGadget> shawn34: have you tried multisync?
[01:46] <shawn34> no, is it gui?
[01:46] <shawn34> i know the system sees my pocketpc
[01:46] <shawn34> but it doesn't mount it
[01:46] <iGadget> I guess so... I've been told it's your best shot at getting any CE-driven device to work with ubuntu
[01:47] <BluesKaj> is there a rule of thumb how large the / partition vs the /home partition should be ...I do a lot of video editing etc and need lots of disk space for storing these files til they are burned to dvd .
[01:48] <fdoving> BluesKaj: i don't separate / and /home. i just make one huge /
[01:48] <iGadget> shawn34:  right now, the system probably just reads some device ID... I'd be surprised if anything more than that happened out of the box with a CE device
[01:48] <BluesKaj> well, it's a done deal fdoving , my / partition and /home are already partitioned
[01:49] <iGadget> BluesKaj: If I were you, I'd be using a separate (raid0 set of?) drive(s), dedicated to video
[01:49] <shawn34> usb 3-1.3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[01:49] <shawn34> i get that when i plug it in
[01:50] <iGadget> shawn34: hmmm... that sure sounds like a lot more is happening
[01:50] <iGadget> shawn34: still, your best shot is probably multisync
[01:50] <BluesKaj> I'm not gonna get into raid stuff and seperate drives. I have enuff space, i'd  just like to use it efficiently
[01:50] <shawn34> i will check that out thanks
[01:50] <hans> Hmm I sure have an idea for feisty+1! smb support build in...
[01:51] <iGadget> BluesKaj: your call... but don't be surprised when you get framedrops because the disk is occupied by other processes once in a while
[01:52] <Tm_T> nixternal mooh
[01:52] <Tm_T> err
[01:52] <Tm_T> "mooh"
[01:54] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T
[01:54] <Tm_T> hi BluesKaj :)
[01:55] <BluesKaj> get any sleep yet Tm_T ? :)
[01:55] <reydelsillon> what program do you guys use to install aplications?
[01:55] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: nope
[01:56] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: and have been rather bust at "work"
[01:56] <BluesKaj> ok
[01:56] <Tm_T> busy even
[01:56] <Tm_T> I really do hate this keyboard :(
[01:57] <reydelsillon> what is the equivalent to ctrl+alt+del in kubuntu?
[01:57] <Tm_T> these keys are higher than me
[01:57] <Tm_T> reydelsillon: how about, ctrl+alt+del
[01:57] <Tm_T> reydelsillon: to be honest, I have no idea what exactly you are asking
[01:57] <reydelsillon> its not for shutdonw. is for closing a application thats working in the background
[01:58] <Tm_T> reydelsillon: ctrl+esc perhaps?
[01:58] <reydelsillon> im trying to open adept. but theres anoter program using the function.
[01:58] <Tm_T> I really don't use defaults so can't remember those very well
[01:59] <reydelsillon> thees a shortcut to terminate aplication, riht?
[02:02] <reydelsillon> anyone with experience using vmware on kubuntu?
[02:07] <JuJuBee> What is a good gui FTP program?
[02:08] <mardi> reydelsillon: do a Ctrl-Esc, that will bring up a processes list
[02:08] <reydelsillon> thanks
[02:08] <mardi> you can also to 'top' in konsole. i prefer htop, shows more info
[02:10] <mardi> *type 'top' in konsole i mean....
[02:10] <kubuntu22> Can anyone tell me if this article ( http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/start-downloading-feisty-now-and-get-it-faster-on-release-day/ ) applies to kubuntu as well as ubuntu
[02:12] <fdoving> kubuntu22: yes, that is a nice method and it also works for kubuntu.
[02:12] <kubuntu22> fdoving: thanks...this will make things much easier, and quicker :)
[02:13] <fdoving> kubuntu22: yes, and it helps keeping the mirrors load down too :)
[02:13] <kubuntu22> :)
[02:14] <JuJuBee> Anybody ? Good gui FTP ?
[02:14] <mardi> JuJuBee: i'd look in Adept
[02:14] <mardi> personally I use konqueror for FTP
[02:15] <JuJuBee> Didn't know I could.
[02:15] <Riddell> fdoving, kubuntu22: I don't recommend that to be widely published, rsync is extreamely CPU and disk intensive and more than a dozen people using it will slow the machine to a crawl
[02:16] <kubuntu22> Riddell: it hit my RSS feeds this morning on planter ubuntu...I'm thinking lots of people are going to see it
[02:16] <JuJuBee> mardi : that's cool.
[02:16] <Riddell> kubuntu22: that'll keep the sysadmins busy
[02:16] <kubuntu22> JuJuBee: start the address off with ftp:// in konquerer
[02:16] <Tm_T> JuJuBee: there's lots of things you can do with Konqueror
[02:17] <mardi> fish:// is my fav :)
[02:17] <JuJuBee> I see.  Do I drag-n-drop files/folders?
[02:17] <Tm_T> apt:/ and man:/ <3
[02:17] <Tm_T> JuJuBee: you can
[02:18] <mardi> do Ctrl-Shift-L if you want a split window in konqueror, Ctrl-Shift-R to go back to single pane
[02:20] <JuJuBee> Cool.  Thanks.
[02:22] <flaccid> w0a you can do heaps
[02:24] <YingFan> hi, i have hald and udev installed and belong to plugdev group Where do i read about how to make an external usb device to be writeable by regular user
[02:24] <shawn34> are there any plugins for kmail/kontact? like weather plugins or somthing?
[02:25] <JuJuBee> What is fish:// ?
[02:25] <mardi> JuJuBee: for ssh
[02:25] <fdoving> JuJuBee: the same as sftp:/ - filebrowsing over ssh.
[02:26] <fdoving> JuJuBee: it's very cool by the way. atleast with public-key authentication.
[02:26] <JuJuBee> Cool.  I'll check it out.
[02:32] <dognews> hi
[02:33] <iGadget> reydelsillon: I'm using vmware player right now on kubuntu
[02:33] <iGadget> I'll check back in 15mins or so
[02:34] <dognews> at what time will new shiny feisty be out tomorrow?
[02:34] <neonlinux> dognews: sorta depends on where u are in the world
[02:35] <dognews> neonlinux: just give me the UTC time ;)
[02:35] <iGadget> hmmm... since when is evolution no more able to connect to Exchange webservers?
[02:36] <shawn34> i installed kweather, selected philadelphia but when i try to update it it says requested station does not exsist
[02:36] <neonlinux> dognews: i wish i could lol.. the people who push the release button are on cest (+0200)
[02:37] <shawn34> anyone know how to get this working?
[02:37] <dognews> neonlinux: and when was it the last time?
[02:38] <neonlinux> well.. im in oz.. here its 10:37... theyre 8 hours behind me :(
[02:38] <neonlinux> and they said they would push the button sometime in their morning
[02:38] <neonlinux> i wish i had a more accurate time frame
[02:38] <Lord_Maynoth_42> could anyone here help me please?  I trying to help fix a bug with the newest kernel... and the AMD 690G chipset
[02:39] <daydream> what's up d.gray-man manga 115
[02:39] <bobstro> JuJuBee: did you get that proxy working ok?
[02:39] <Lord_Maynoth_42> seems the bug was introduced after 2.6.20RC5
[02:39] <Lord_Maynoth_42> they want me to recomplile and test each RC after that
[02:45] <dognews> neonlinux: morning sounds great :)
[02:45] <neonlinux> dognews: lol.. it will be arvo here before i see it :(
[02:46] <dognews> neonlinux: I'm in +2, too and we want to update it on our school network in the afternoon
[02:47] <dognews> neonlinux: 8 hours before us - that would be Australia?
[02:48] <neonlinux> lol. i want to install it on one of our schools servers... have been waiting for this release instead of installing one of the previous ones... yeah.. in australia :)
[02:49] <neonlinux> dognews: gotta install it then add it to the win2k3 domain
[02:50] <dognews> neonlinux: cool (y) I've spent 10 weeks in your great country (near Melbourne) - Australia ist just awesome! (kubuntu, too of course)
[02:51] <neonlinux> dognews: lol.. so sampled the beer, vegimite and the drop bears? lol... ive never been out of it (so i have nothing to compare it to, but glad u found it great).. maybe someday :)
[02:51] <dognews> neonlinux: so, every student at your school will be using kubuntu soon? :)
[02:52] <neonlinux> lol.. i wish... government has a special deal with microsoft... licensing wise.. so unfortunatly.. officially all workstations and servers are windows.... but ive made some... unofficial ones :)
[02:53] <fdoving> kubuntu22: i forgot to mention, you can download the first file from anywhere, you do not need to use rsync for both images. if you first fetch an daily image today from an http/ftp server, you can use rsync to update it tomorrow.
[02:53] <mips> Any idea why I cannot install grub to (hd0,2) but only to (hd0) ???
[02:54] <neonlinux> the teachers at the school needed a file server.... i built a machine with 4 hdds set in raid5 (software raid) kubuntu.. has about 600gb and currently at 32% capacity...
[02:54] <neonlinux> and it only cost about $1000 to build the machine... if we were to buy another win site license it would have been about 200 on top of that wor win2k3
[02:54] <neonlinux> *wor if for.. typo
[02:56] <dognews> neonlinux: :o that windows licensing thing seems to be a bad point about Australia :( - over here in Germany some towns already swiched to linux :) and the official school network system is some suse linux junk
[02:57] <dognews> neonlinux: your file server thing sounds pretty cool :D
[02:58] <neonlinux> dognews: yeah... it sucks... interesting part is... when microsoft was going to stop winxp and only allow vista licenses.. the education system started considering alternatives... as soon as ms heard this there was a sudden change and now were stuck with windows
[02:58] <neonlinux> dognews: yeah.. the file server is neat.. found it alot easier on kubuntu than any other linux distro
[02:59] <dognews> neonlinux: at our school we plan to put kubuntu on all our clients for the students (unfortunately still together with windows) and we'll try to have some free workshops for students
[03:00] <neonlinux> cool :) im gonna see if i can push for a lab with a few machines running opensource software (kubuntu and various apps) see if i can get them in active directory too
[03:00] <Riddell> dognews: excellent!
[03:01] <neonlinux> dognews: so how come your government decided opensource software was ok to use.. was there a sudden change or did ms do something wrong?
[03:02] <neonlinux> dognews: dreaming of oz doing the same really
[03:02] <dognews> neonlinux: "opensource lab" sounds great :)
[03:02] <cristian__> qualcuno sa come posso installre i driver ati della mia 9600 su kubuntu6.10?
[03:03] <dognews> neonlinux: I think it's a question of money ;)
[03:04] <Lord_Maynoth_42> is it possible to recompile kernel's and make a new liveCD via windows xp... there is a kernel bug which prevents feisty or edgy from installing on my rig...
[03:04] <neonlinux> dognews: i think our government doesnt understand that part
[03:04] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: whats the bug?
[03:04] <cristian__> anyone know how to install ati driver on kubuntu 6.10? scuse for my bad english....
[03:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> the amd 690G / SB600 is buggered up in the latest kernels....
[03:05] <mips> Any idea why I cannot install grub to (hd0,2) but only to (hd0) ???
[03:05] <Lord_Maynoth_42> the only known working version is 2.6.20RC5
[03:05] <neonlinux> cristian__: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:06] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and the only working rig I have now is this machine... and xp is all I have :C I hate XP
[03:06] <Lord_Maynoth_42> *_*
[03:07] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: im unsure of specifics but maybe setting the bios to failsafe defaults and finding some boot switches might help
[03:07] <neonlinux> like noapic and nolapic
[03:08] <dognews> neonlinux: our problem only problem at the moment is that we didn't ever do workshops like these - do you know anything about similar projects? Maybe some free and simple ubuntu learning scripts or something?
[03:08] <Lord_Maynoth_42> acpi=off fixes it but disables necessary hardware so its catch22
[03:09] <neonlinux> dognews: all i know is from what ive messed with (usually breaking someting and having to fix it lol)...  wish there were courses.. google has been the best companion really
[03:09] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: disables hardware?
[03:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> well I need my usb
[03:10] <neonlinux> dognews: oh.. and hanging around irc channels like this one :)
[03:10] <Lord_Maynoth_42> to use my keyboard
[03:10] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: ill see what i can dig up
[03:11] <Lord_Maynoth_42> you guys rule
[03:12] <dognews> neonlinux: yeah (y)
[03:15] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: in booting.. where does it get too.. does it boot to gui?
[03:17] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: which fiesty did u use (what kernel?)
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth_42> back sorry
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I tried the latest feisty
[03:17] <Lord_Maynoth_42> as of yesterday
[03:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and edgy
[03:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> and knoppix
[03:18] <neonlinux> the beta or the daily builds?
[03:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> just regular beta
[03:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> :/
[03:18] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I will prolly wait till the official release in a few days
[03:18] <neonlinux> the daily builds might fix it
[03:19] <samx> hi!
[03:19] <neonlinux> theyre gonna be closest to feisty release as possible.
[03:20] <samx> one question plz!
[03:21] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412578&highlight=amd+690G
[03:22] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hehe ya thats me :D
[03:22] <samx> where can i see the programs, that runs on the startup?
[03:22] <Lord_Maynoth_42> msconfig
[03:22] <Lord_Maynoth_42> haha jk
[03:22] <Lord_Maynoth_42> sry
[03:22] <samx>
[03:23] <samx> in kubuntu xD
[03:23] <Jucato> !autostart
[03:23] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:23] <samx> oks tnx
[03:24] <Jucato> samx: but in a fresh default Kubuntu install, what usually happens is that programs and process that you left running when you logged out/shut down are saved in the session and restarted when you log in again
[03:25] <samx> i introduced to start beyl twice, and i what to erase one
[03:25] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: have you tried the 64bit build?
[03:25] <Lord_Maynoth_42> yes I can get it to work sort of...
[03:25] <Lord_Maynoth_42> it seems very buggy
[03:26] <Lord_Maynoth_42> so I am trying to find a solution to the 32bit bug
[03:26] <hans> In smb4k when i mount a folder it unmounts automatically after about a second... why?
[03:26] <neonlinux> so the 64bit boots?
[03:26] <Lord_Maynoth_42> yes that is correct the bug only affects the 32...
[03:26] <Lord_Maynoth_42> but the 64bit seems to crash a lot
[03:26] <Lord_Maynoth_42> on me
[03:27] <helge> I Use Edgy, I have ATI 9250 and a spasnking new (Acer AL2216W) 22 inch widescreen monitor. My problem is that I can only get the resolution of 120x768 to work. The others get all funny. Suggestions?
[03:27] <Lord_Maynoth_42> randomly and I cannot reproduce it
[03:27] <neonlinux> after installing the ati drivers for display?
[03:27] <Lord_Maynoth_42> so I went back with winXp
[03:27] <helge> damn, shpuld be 1280x768
[03:28] <helge> damn, should be 1280x768
[03:28] <helge> It also says driver ATI.
[03:30] <helge> I should have a resolution of 1680x1050 and it works all fine in Vista.
[03:33] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: only thing i can think of is try the 64bit with noapic nolapic
[03:33] <neonlinux> Lord_Maynoth_42: or wait.. a few hours (yay).. for the release version
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> hours
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ?
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> *_*
[03:34] <BluesKaj> helge have you installed 'xorg-driver-fglrx', it's available on the repos
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> when is it due out
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> ?
[03:34] <rojani> Hi All
[03:34] <neonlinux> umm.. 19th
[03:34] <sasq> just got a 2000dpi mouse and the KDE mouse settings doesnt let me slow it down enough... any hints?
[03:34] <BluesKaj> tomorrow ...maybe :)
[03:34] <Jucato> Lord_Maynoth_42: April 19... but most probably following either UTC or US time
[03:35] <helge> Blueskaj , I will try fglrx . Anything I will have to do?
[03:35] <rojani> I am installing a Ralink chipset wireless card for a friend, drivers are installed but can't detect any network? any idea?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> helge, you may have to do this to reset yourscrn resolutions: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:36] <helge> I couldnt get fglrx, it would break som packages.
[03:37] <BluesKaj> helge , install the xorg-driver-fglrx first and try to set the scrn resolutions first
[03:38] <helge> But I couldnt get the package
[03:38] <helge> What should I do first?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> ok then run  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:39] <helge> running xserver
[03:40] <sasq> noone with a modern mouse here?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> modern ?
[03:41] <kubuntu22> like a razor?
[03:47] <yamal> sasq: you might want to try adding something like  Option "Resolution" "2000"  to /etc/X11/xorg.conf mouse section, see http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.4.html
[03:51] <sasq> yamal: didnt help
[03:52] <icecruncher> do you need any special files to run java -jar? any libraries or stuff like that?
[03:52] <yamal> sasq: probably needs restarting the x server to activate the setting, but even then as the docs say it doesn't work on all devices
[03:53] <sasq> yeah I restarted of course
[03:58] <thefirstdude> is it possible to download a smaller CD image, like with just the basic stuff
[03:58] <YingFan> are all files in /tmp deleted upon reboot???
[03:58] <dawall> hi all!
[03:58] <thefirstdude> can someone tell me if I can download a smaller version of feaisty fawn
[03:59] <dawall> someone up for helping a n00b ?    =)
[03:59] <thefirstdude> their website doesn't offer many options
[04:01] <pascutti> thefirstdude: you can use the upgrading tool...
[04:01] <pascutti> but it will upgrade many things too... a smaller version? i dont know anyone
[04:02] <Pollywog> what is module wfb in xorg?
[04:02] <Pollywog> where do I get it?
[04:02] <neoj> thefirstdude: i dont know. but if you really have that requirement perhaps first installing debian with the netinst image, and then dist-upgrade:ing to ubuntu would be a solution.
[04:04] <dawall> i seem to have made a mess with the accounts or something, I cant use sudo och changing to admin mode under system settings, is it possible to restore this somehow??
[04:04] <thefirstdude> is feisty fawn the latest realease?
[04:04] <mips> yes
[04:04] <gnomefreak> almost
[04:04] <hak5fan> Hi I
[04:04] <mips> although it will only be official tomorrow
[04:04] <hak5fan> hehe hit enter a bit early
[04:06] <Tm_T> Feisty Fawn is scheduled to be released tomorrow... though will be released when ready
[04:06] <bobstro> is there an official howto on migrating from debian to ubuntu that way?
[04:06] <hak5fan> I'm trying to get gmailfs working I followed this guide http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=447218&highlight=gmailfs and I get these errors http://p.rc6.org/index.php?id=91648efbb4 when trying to mount it
[04:09] <Pollywog> are they going to fix this nvidia problem before the release?
[04:09] <lynxo> hello!
[04:09] <Pollywog> apparntly the problem I am having is a common one
[04:09] <lynxo> !install
[04:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:10] <lynxo> !automate
[04:10] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[04:10] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, will the adept upgrade notify us feisty beta users, with an auto upgrade ?
[04:10] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: just like any upgrade
[04:10] <BluesKaj> coolness :)
[04:10] <Pollywog> I guess the temp solution is to use nv driver for now
[04:10] <Pollywog> I will try it
[04:12] <Pollywog> yes that works
[04:17] <lynxo> I can't get kubuntu to install i'm on live now...
[04:18] <lynxo> ...
[04:18] <lynxo> !partition
[04:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:18] <daydream> how to run php code
[04:19] <lynxo> i open it
[04:19] <meuhlol> hello all
[04:20] <lynxo> !ext2
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <lynxo> EXt
[04:20] <lynxo> !ext
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <meuhlol> someone know how to configure Volume UP and Volume DOWN buttons at my keyboard please? When i press volume down it does -11, -12% of volume
[04:20] <lynxo> !netgear
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netgear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <lynxo> ...
[04:21] <meuhlol> and I need to do -1% or +1% with these buttons at keyboard
[04:21] <meuhlol> someone can help me please?
[04:22] <bobstro> meuhlol: what sort of keyboard?
[04:24] <meuhlol> bobstro: it's an AZERTY keyboard, with some multimedia buttons (www, e-mail, stop, play/pause, previous, next, mute, vol up, vol down)
[04:25] <meuhlol> bobstro: all buttons works excepting WWW, who don't launch my firefox, and Vol+ does +5 +6% of volume up, and VOL- does -10 -11 -12% of volume down, randomly
[04:25] <bobstro> meuhlol: if you go to system settings->General->Regional & Language->Keyboard Layout, you can select the model there (if there's a match).
[04:25] <meuhlol> it's an Sangha (model builder) but what model to choose?
[04:25] <bobstro> meuhlol: yes, multimedia keyboards are a general problem. i had luck with logitech keyboards.
[04:26] <bobstro> meuhlol: ah, not sure on the generics that aren't listed.
[04:26] <meuhlol> bob
[04:26] <bobstro> meuhlol: there are far more detailed steps building one from scratch. i'd suggest searching the forums and googling for some howto's, since the details will vary widely.
[04:26] <meuhlol> this keyboard works perfect in windows xp pro, how to configure it in kde?
[04:26] <bobstro> meuhlol: i wound up using "hotkeys" for my laptop to enable the xtra buttons.
[04:27] <bobstro> meuhlol: something to TRY (no guarantees). open kmix, go to settings->global shortcuts
[04:27] <meuhlol> bobstro: i make it on PC generik keyboard 105 buttons intl
[04:27] <bobstro> try setting mixer to use those buttons there.
[04:28] <meuhlol> it works, but i would like to modify a amount of vol up & vol down buttons
[04:28] <bobstro> meuhlol: you may be in luck if the buttons do *anything*. try the global shortcuts i just suggested.
[04:28] <meuhlol> yes im here
[04:28] <meuhlol> but it says "nothing" in button
[04:28] <bobstro> meuhlol: did you try that yet?
[04:29] <bobstro> meuhlol: at the bottom, where it says shortcut for selected action, click that button with mouse, then press up or down volume key. does that work?
[04:29] <meuhlol> yes
[04:29] <bobstro> meuhlol: select increase or decrease volume up above.
[04:30] <bobstro> meuhlol: ok, press OK to save it, then try it.
[04:30] <bobstro> meuhlol: still random amounts?
[04:30] <meuhlol> it works, bobstro, but vol+ first press = +5% volume up, second time press = +7% volume up... I would like to modify this amount, to make all times +1%
[04:30] <meuhlol> always +6 or +7
[04:30] <bobstro> meuhlol: still the same? ok, sorry. it was worth a shot.
[04:31] <meuhlol> and -6% -7% on voldown
[04:31] <meuhlol> bobstro it works, but i dunno where to change the amount :s
[04:32] <bobstro> meuhlol: i'm afraid i haven't seen that selection. i thought perhaps the wrong keycodes were being sent.
[04:32] <mik21> hello from barcelona!!!
[04:32] <meuhlol> but the keys works nice, have a response
[04:32] <meuhlol> but amount, it's affraiding me
[04:33] <bobstro> meuhlol: there are a lot of guides on this subject, but it doesn't seem to be standardized. what works for one keyboard model may be completely different from others.
[04:33] <meuhlol> have u an link?
[04:33] <sonicGB> i can has cheeze burger?
[04:34] <bobstro> meuhlol: here's one for my logitech but it may not apply http://symlink.dk/linux/config/logitech/
[04:34] <tennents> hi
[04:34] <bobstro> meuhlol: it may get you started at least.
[04:34] <meuhlol> i lookin
[04:34] <tennents> anyone knows a dvb-s softcam for mythtv?????
[04:34] <meuhlol> be back
[04:36] <bobstro> meuhlol: the part on xev may be the key. on my latest keyboard, only half the keys respond.
[04:38] <lynxo> ne1 know how i can install this?
[04:38] <lynxo> kubuntu installer keeps erroring.
[04:38] <lynxo> it just crashes
[04:40] <ferret_0568> In Kopete, how do I send PGP messages as is, without displaying a "This message is encrypted" message only?
[04:40] <ferret_0568> That message is useless!
[04:41] <ferret_0568> I put one x instead of a dash in the "END PGP MESSAGE" header, and tell the other party to replace it with a dash, and then they say it doesn't work!
[04:41] <thefirstdude> can  just change my sources.list from dapper to edgy to upgrade?
[04:41] <ferret_0568> Why does KDE have so many problems?
[04:41] <ferret_0568> With GNOME, none of this
[04:42] <ferret_0568> I like KDE better, just what to do with these silly problems?
[04:42] <ferret_0568> The other party is using Gaim
[04:43] <ferret_0568> thefirstdude: no
[04:44] <tackat> ferret_0568: there's a channel "#kopete" ;-)
[04:45] <thefirstdude> how can I easily upgrade?
[04:47] <Agnar> !upgrade | thefirstdude
[04:47] <ubotu> thefirstdude: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:57] <kubuntu22> hmm
[05:01] <bobdhicks> What's going on with "kai"?
[05:01] <BluesKaj> !op
[05:01] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[05:01] <BluesKaj> flooding the ch with joins and quits
[05:02] <BluesKaj> Mez, ban kai , he's flooding, with joins and quits
[05:03] <wolferine> wow
[05:03] <BluesKaj> thx Jucato
[05:03] <wolferine> nfs is SOO much better than Samba
[05:03] <wolferine> lol
[05:03] <Jucato> ok that wasn't pretty
[05:03] <BluesKaj> how wolferine ?
[05:03] <wolferine> so easy to setup
[05:03] <ferret_0568> ok, KDE is going bye-bye, I'm sick of it already!
[05:03] <wolferine> ferret_0568, Gnome is really nice
[05:03] <wolferine> despite what ppl say
[05:04] <BluesKaj> then go join ubuntu
[05:04] <ferret_0568> I would have liked KDE better, if it didn't have a million small bugs!
[05:04] <jl> buenas
[05:04] <ferret_0568> Can't even send and receive files across AIM through Kopete!
[05:04] <ferret_0568> bye
[05:05] <wolferine> um
[05:05] <ferret_0568> It's sad that KDE doesn't work...
[05:05] <wolferine> that has nothing to do with KDE
[05:05] <BluesKaj> sorry your experience wit it is so buggy , ferret_0568...bye
[05:05] <wolferine> lol
[05:05] <jl> alguien en espaol
[05:05] <Dr_willis> I agree with you wolferine
[05:05] <Jucato> !es | jl
[05:05] <ubotu> jl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:05] <wolferine> thanks jucato
[05:05] <wolferine> i have to get use to using that
[05:05] <jl> thanks
[05:05] <Dr_willis> of course if you give up on everything that has a few little bugs here and there.. well.. soon you give up on everything.
[05:06] <kubuntu22> !kopete | ferret_0568
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <wolferine> if I knew the country code...
[05:06] <wolferine> lol
[05:06] <wolferine> Dr_willis, sent me back to winblows a time or two
[05:06] <BluesKaj> ok , wolferine ,does nfs work better than samba on a mixed OS network ?
[05:06] <ferret_0568> One thing will save me, if I use Gaim, that would fix it, but then, I would still need a note taking app, a good one
[05:06] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  then the spyware invasion sends you back to Linux.
[05:06] <wolferine> BluesKaj, of course not
[05:06] <wolferine> but why would I add in win :)
[05:07] <wolferine> hehe
[05:07] <Jucato> ferret_0568: basket?
[05:07] <wolferine> true that Dr_willis
[05:07] <wolferine> lol
[05:07] <ferret_0568> It has Kontact integration compiled in with Ubuntu's package
[05:07] <ferret_0568> I hate that
[05:07] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  and its sicking the windows machines that ive had to 'rescue' from 'IM program' infections.. :)
[05:07] <Dr_willis> well lunch time.
[05:08] <ferret_0568> And, I couldn't get BasKet to compile and actually work without crashing
[05:08] <Jucato> ferret_0568: huh? you can turn it off
[05:08] <ferret_0568> Oh, I can?
[05:08] <ferret_0568> Well...ok then
[05:08] <Jucato> yeah...
[05:08] <BluesKaj> hehe , ok then , my wife prefers windows and i  prefer linux> She has her pc and I have mine and we use samba to transfer files between pc's ...hence samba
[05:08] <ferret_0568> Thanks for that tip
[05:08] <Jucato> kontact integration is compiled and enabled in Kubuntu. doesn't mean it can't be turned off
[05:08] <ferret_0568> Can it be turned off by a check box?
[05:09] <Jucato> it just means that you can integrate basket with kontact
[05:09] <Jucato> ferret_0568: Kontact Settings menu -> Configure Kontact -> Select Components button
[05:09] <ferret_0568> I can always turn it off by compiling a newer version
[05:09] <ferret_0568> thanks
[05:09] <ferret_0568> I got saved...
[05:09] <ferret_0568> I'll brb
[05:10] <Jucato> er... compiling a newer version to turn off something? O.o
[05:10] <Jucato> wolferine: this page might help (regarding local ubuntu-channels) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:10] <wolferine> thanks Jucato
[05:10] <wolferine> how about all the country codes :)
[05:11] <wolferine> hehe
[05:11] <Jucato> of course, most of the time, you just need to remember es, fr, de, pl, pt, etc
[05:11] <Jucato> wolferine: it's in that page
[05:11] <Jucato> (for me, the harder part is distinguishing between -es and -pt...
[05:11] <ferret_0567_> now, I'm going to install BasKet
[05:11] <wolferine> ah
[05:12] <ferret_0567_> And switch to Gaim soon...
[05:12] <wolferine> i guess its like french and englsih :/
[05:12] <Jucato> ferret_0567_: for kopete issues, you can try asking in #kopete
[05:12] <ferret_0567_> I already did
[05:12] <Jucato> no luck?
[05:12] <ferret_0567_> They say my issue is not fixable
[05:13] <ferret_0567_> Unless Kubuntu updates Kopete to a fixed version (it's a bug), then I'm stuck
[05:13] <jl> k
[05:13] <Jucato> ferret_0567_: which version has the fix?
[05:13] <ferret_0567_> I dunno
[05:13] <ferret_0567_> And, I'm going to have to switch to KDM if I want to use KDE
[05:13] <Jucato> kubuntu feisty has the latest stable KDE/Kopete version. unless they are referring to an unreleased development version
[05:14] <ferret_0567_> I am using Feisty
[05:14] <ferret_0567_> GDM worked with KDE properly in Edgy
[05:14] <iGadget> ohwell
[05:14] <iGadget> off we go
[05:14] <ferret_0567_> The issue is that I only get a log out button, no shutdown or anything on the "Log out" dialog box
[05:15] <wolferine> if I wanted to limit the number of irc connections off this computer, how could I do that?
[05:15] <wolferine> man what?
[05:15] <Jucato> ferret_0567_: that's a normal behavior if you use GDM to run KDE or KDM to run GNOME
[05:15] <Jucato> due to how these *DM's work with their native DE's
[05:16] <ferret_0567_> I really like the Aerials KDE color scheme
[05:16] <ferret_0567_> I use it with the Polyester style
[05:16] <wolferine> polyester?
[05:17] <ferret_0567_> Yeah
[05:17] <wolferine> lol
[05:17] <wolferine> nice
[05:17] <ferret_0567_> It's included with Kubuntu
[05:17] <Jucato> Polyester is the default style for Kubuntu Feisty
[05:17] <ferret_0567_> It looks good with this color scheme
[05:17] <ferret_0567_> It is?
[05:17] <Rebecca> hey peoples, im running kubuntu on a dell d610. this laptop has a centrino with speedstep. it should run at about 1.7ghz when on AC but it always runs at 800mhz regardless.. any idea's how this is fixed?
[05:17] <sasq> wolferine: iptables
[05:17] <wolferine> really?
[05:17] <ferret_0567_> Check the power manager
[05:18] <wolferine> that will limit the number of irc connections?
[05:18] <wolferine> Rebecca, how do you know it runs at 800?
[05:18] <sasq> wolferine: iptables controls the firewall, and the firewall should be able to contain such rules
[05:18] <Rebecca> wolferine: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:18] <jame> hi
[05:18] <wolferine> sasq, never thought of that
[05:18] <ferret_0567_> That's a reliable source
[05:18] <jame> I cant get my K-panel up
[05:18] <jame> whats wrong
[05:19] <wolferine> Rebecca, on starting the system, which clock speed is recognized?
[05:19] <jame> its set to hide once muouse leaves top of it
[05:19] <ferret_0567_> Does she have powernowd running?
[05:19] <jame> but it stopped working
[05:19] <Rebecca> wolferine: i'll check
[05:19] <angasule_> jame: does alt+F1 bring it back?
[05:19] <jame> yes
[05:20] <Jucato> angasule_: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", then go to Desktop -> Panels and configure your panel from there
[05:20] <jame> but still when mouse leaves it after that is hides again
[05:20] <wolferine> sasq, would you be able to write a quick example of how user1 can only have 2 or less irc connections?
[05:20] <wolferine> or is it a bit complicated?
[05:21] <Jucato> jame: check the Hiding settings of the Panel
[05:21] <jame> changing it to stay up and them hide again helped
[05:21] <jame> now it works again
[05:21] <Jucato> ok
[05:21] <jame> any idea what caused it
[05:21] <Jucato> a bug...
[05:21] <jame> jacato - Orly
[05:21] <Jucato> (which happens a bit often... yet has no way to consistently reproduce)
[05:22] <jame> but has it been reported or solved what causes it to reproduce
[05:22] <wolferine> Rebecca, i guess this is on another machine?
[05:23] <Jucato> jame: like I said, there's no way to consistently reproduce it, therefore, no way to pin it down...
[05:23] <Jucato> but it has happened at times... and I think on Kubuntu only
[05:23] <sasq> wolferine: i sort of knew how to do womething similar with the old fw but dont know how it works in iptanles
[05:23] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:23] <jame> well cant help then :(
[05:24] <Rebecca> wolferine: yeah, im checking the bios now.. hard to see what's recognised on boot because the dell bios doesn't show it.. ill check the boot log actually
[05:24] <wolferine> sasq, np
[05:24] <wolferine> just thought it might be easy
[05:24] <wolferine> Rebecca, it might take some Math :)
[05:25] <jame> jucato; anyway, thanks for your time
[05:25] <ferret_0567_> Yay, Basket works!
[05:25] <Jucato> jame: sure. glad it was fixed
[05:25] <Jucato> ferret_0567_: of course it does :)
[05:25] <ferret_0567_> How can I get it to look like Tomboy Notes in GNOME?
[05:26] <Jucato> Basket is not a Tomboy-clone :)
[05:26] <ferret_0567_> Theres some way to do it
[05:26] <ferret_0567_> Similar to what I want
[05:26] <Jucato> feel free to look around :)
[05:27] <ferret_0567_> I like how the Kubuntu power manager switches my CPU to powersave mode when on battery automatically
[05:27] <ferret_0567_> And to Performance on battery
[05:27] <ferret_0567_> err...AC
[05:27] <kenneth> Does anyone know when the stable iso files for 7.04 will be on ftp servers around the world?
[05:27] <ferret_0567_> My battery isn't too good, it's around 73% max capacity
[05:28] <wolferine> kenneth, impatient :)
[05:28] <kenneth> i have been waiting for severeal month :-)
[05:28] <ferret_0567_> Just upgrade to Feisty now
[05:28] <wolferine> hehe
[05:28] <ferret_0567_> It's stable
[05:28] <stdin> kenneth: when it's released, it should be on all the mirrors about a day after (depends on the mirror)
[05:28] <ferret_0567_> I can't see a problem
[05:28] <wolferine> yeah, you can update it
[05:29] <kenneth> Im currently using kubuntu 7.04 beta, but im upgrading and updating every day :-)
[05:29] <ferret_0567_> Except for my laptop freezing once a day if I leave the wireless card plugged in...but that's normal
[05:30] <Jucato> kenneth: then no need for you to get ISO's unless you're thinking of reinstalling
[05:30] <ferret_0567_> it happened with Edgy too, and FC6
[05:30] <nate_> how can i give my self access to /dev/imput/js0 ??
[05:30] <wolferine> kenneth, I am updating everyday as well :)
[05:30] <kenneth> That was my plan..
[05:30] <ferret_0567_> chmod it
[05:30] <kenneth> So i dont need to re-install?
[05:30] <Rebecca> wolferine: dmesg mentions a 1.73ghz cpu was found a couple of times during the boot sequence
[05:30] <ferret_0567_> Make user a group of...?
[05:31] <Jucato> kenneth: I might have something that would interest you. hold on a sec
[05:31] <kenneth> :-)
[05:31] <Jucato> kenneth: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/start-downloading-feisty-now-and-get-it-faster-on-release-day/
[05:31] <nate_> the user is already an admin
[05:31] <ferret_0567_> What is interesting is that already, the "development branch" banner has been removed above login already
[05:31] <stdin> Jucato: 404
[05:31] <wolferine> Rebecca, it should be in the BIOS, as to its speed
[05:32] <nate_> i have to use the sudo commands though to do anything
[05:32] <chijin> Something has gone wrong, the page you're looking for can't be found.
[05:32] <wolferine> not sure why the OS would change the clock speed
[05:32] <wolferine> but I am sure its complicated
[05:32] <Jucato> stdin: hm? working here....
[05:32] <kenneth> hehe
[05:32] <Rebecca> wolferine: stepping is enabled but it's the OS that is not controlling it properly
[05:32] <stdin> Jucato: I get a "Something has gone wrong, the page you're looking for can't be found."
[05:32] <Jucato> stdin: ah wait...
[05:32] <Rebecca> wolferine: i do want it stepped down when unplugged :)
[05:32] <ferret_0567_> Mine works fine
[05:32] <Rebecca> wolferine: just not when plugged
[05:33] <ferret_0567_> ok, right click on the power manager...
[05:33] <ferret_0567_> click "Restore..."
[05:33] <Jucato> stdin, kenneth: ah sorry, the post was taken down because apparently it was not a good thing to do
[05:33] <stdin> heh
[05:33] <wolferine> ah
[05:33] <Jucato> sorry :)
[05:33] <wolferine> not sure Rebecca, sorry
[05:33] <Jucato> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/the-rsync-download-post-is-gone/
[05:34] <Rebecca> wolferine: okay :)
[05:34] <ferret_0567_> Can you see "Mains Powered", and "Battery  Powered"
[05:34] <ferret_0567_> ?
[05:34] <Rebecca> ferret_0567_: where?
[05:34] <ferret_0567_> Right click on the battery in the system tray, and click "Restore..."
[05:35] <ferret_0567_> The battery is the power manager
[05:35] <ferret_0567_> Now do you see those items?
[05:36] <ferret_0567_> If you do, there'ss some settings about the CPU frequency scaling policy
[05:36] <Rebecca> ferret_0567_: hmmm.. maybe i need to update that app.. it opens but i don't have those options
[05:36] <ferret_0567_> When my system is battery powered, I have it set to Powersave
[05:37] <ferret_0567_> ok, are you using Edgy, or Feisty?
[05:37] <ferret_0567_> I'm using Feisty
[05:37] <ferret_0567_> It's really good, and stable, too\
[05:37] <euk> How do I report what seems to be a problem with the packaging of Quanta Plus on Edgy?
[05:38] <stdin> !bug
[05:38] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:39] <Rebecca> ferret_0567_: how do i check version
[05:39] <Rebecca> 6.10
[05:39] <Rebecca> i like numbers.. always forget the name
[05:39] <euk> stdin: So simple when you know :-) Thanks
[05:39] <stdin> np :)
[05:40] <ferret_0567_> ok, you should upgrade to Feisty
[05:40] <ferret_0567_> I'll get you a guide...
[05:40] <Rebecca> ferret_0567_: ill do that when im not shaped :)
[05:41] <Jucato> although, since feisty will be released tomorrow, that won't be necessary
[05:41] <Jucato> (the dist-upgrade tool will be made available from the regular repositories, iirc)
[05:43] <kenneth> What IRC network is this channel on?
[05:43] <Jucato> kenneth: freenode
[05:43] <stdin> freenode
[05:43] <ferret_0567_> You know, the "development branch" marker has already been removed
[05:43] <kenneth> ahh
[05:43] <kenneth> never been here before
[05:43] <ferret_0567_> Freenode is awesome
[05:44] <kenneth> Who is running this freenode network?
[05:44] <stdin> !freenode
[05:44] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[05:44] <Jucato> tralalala
[05:44] <Jucato> fast fingers
[05:46] <kenneth> Is this channel related to Canonical in any way?
[05:46] <Jucato> kenneth: no
[05:46] <wolferine> what is required to do a network install?
[05:46] <Jucato> er this channel?
[05:46] <Jucato> or you mean this network?
[05:46] <nixternal> no, like a netboot install I think
[05:47] <nixternal> !netboot
[05:47] <Jucato> oh sorry, that was for kenneth
[05:47] <wolferine> nixternal, talking to me?
[05:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:47] <nixternal> wolferine: yes, sorry
[05:47] <wolferine> give me just a few lines, whats required
[05:47] <kenneth> I mean this channel. Are there any *buntu developers here?
[05:47] <wolferine> CD to boot?
[05:47] <nixternal> wolferine: I think the top one will explain the netboot install
[05:47] <wolferine> then a site to dl from
[05:47] <nixternal> I have never done a netboot with Kubuntu
[05:47] <stdin> kenneth: probably, tho there are more in the -devel channels
[05:47] <wolferine> ah
[05:47] <wolferine> k
[05:48] <Jucato> kenneth: well, not all developers are directly releated to Canonical anyway :)
[05:48] <stdin> kenneth: #kubuntu-devel #ubuntu-devel etc..
[05:49] <tinyx> helllo
[05:49] <ferret_0567_> ok, I'm switching to Gaim, brb
[05:49] <tinyx> How do I open a program that I installed with wine?
[05:49] <Jucato> !away > dhq
[05:50] <stdin> tinyx: "wine /path/to/app.exe" is one way
[05:50] <zerothis> wine program.exe
[05:50] <ferret_0568> back
[05:50] <kenneth> I have been using Ubuntu since version 4.10. As of version 7.04 im using Kubuntu.
[05:50] <stdin> tinyx: or you can do: wine "C:\Program Files\App\App.exe" too
[05:51] <ferret_0568> About the name: Kopete appends "_" automatically to your regular name, if it's not available. Gaim just increments/decrements a number when your regular nick isn't available
[05:51] <tinyx> Is there any way I can put an Icon on my desktop for easier opening?
[05:51] <ferret_0568> Easy
[05:52] <ferret_0568> Right-click on the desktop andf go to new
[05:52] <Cosmo_> in the nvidia-settings it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it like I was able to do before, how do I fix this?
[05:52] <stdin> tinyx: yeah, there should be an entry in the kmenu too
[05:52] <ferret_0568> You can right-click on that entry too
[05:52] <Rebecca> are Feisty ISOs available?
[05:52] <ferret_0568> See, you don't need app installers to automatically put icons on the desktop :)
[05:53] <stdin> Rebecca: yeah, tho the final release iso isn't yet
[05:53] <ferret_0568> You can do it yourself with minimal fuss
[05:53] <Rebecca> stdin: okay, ill be patient
[05:53] <ferret_0568> You can upgrade now
[05:53] <tinyx> hum..all I get is the splash screen when I try to open it
[05:53] <ferret_0568> It's easy, and like I said, the "development branch" marker has been removed
[05:54] <ferret_0568> Canonical is rolling the ISO right now, I bet
[05:54] <Rebecca> nah. bandwidth shaped right now.. an iso download would be okay because i could stop/start it easily thouhg
[05:54] <ferret_0568> Oh, BitTorrent?
[05:54] <Rebecca> but it's all good, ill wait
[05:54] <ferret_0568> Some ISP's shape that
[05:54] <Rebecca> ferret_0568: on 7KB down? no thanks ;)
[05:55] <ferret_0568> That slow?
[05:55] <ferret_0568> What are you using?
[05:55] <ferret_0568> I'm using Road Runner
[05:55] <Rebecca> adsl2+
[05:55] <Rebecca> um.. tpg..
[05:55] <Rebecca> in australia
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Veggimite Sandwiches ? :)
[05:56] <Rebecca> anyway. time to crash. thanks for the help ferret_0568 n wolferine :)
[05:56] <wolferine> k
[05:56] <wolferine> np
[05:56] <Rebecca> ill see how feisty goes :)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> 'food from around the world' :)   whats weird here is normal there. lol.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Feisty is working good here for me.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> a few little issuew here and there.. but nothing major so far
[05:57] <ferret_0568> Oh, I had one issue
[05:57] <ferret_0568> That was easy to fix :)
[05:57] <ferret_0568> I'm hungry...brb
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Ive noticed that the Samba stuff seems a bit.. different then the older releases.
[05:58] <tinyx> Does Kubuntu have a Task Manager like Windows does?
[05:58] <tinyx> You know when you press CTRL-
[05:58] <tinyx> ALT
[05:58] <tinyx> ahh...sry
[05:59] <Dr_willis> tinyx,  hit alt-ctrl-del? or wa it some other keys.. theres a simile rthing
[05:59] <ferret_0568> You can assign that key combo to ksysguard
[05:59] <stdin> tinyx: Ctrl-Esc (default)
[05:59] <ferret_0568> I like that
[05:59] <coreymon77> well, ctrl+alt+bkspc restarts x
[06:00] <Dr_willis> yea dont do that one. :)
[06:00] <ferret_0568> X is the GUI
[06:00] <ferret_0568> Windows is GUI only
[06:00] <stdin> Ctrl-Alt-Del just reboots, so that that either
[06:00] <JohnFlux> ferret_0568: ksysguard is a bit slow to load though - it will be better in kde4
[06:00] <stdin> *not that
[06:00] <coreymon77> then again, when would you really need a ctrl+alt+delete combinatiuon on linux
[06:00] <Jucato> ferret_0568: actually, X isn't the GUI though. it's even lower than that
[06:01] <Dr_willis> under X at this time i just saw alt-ctrl-del - pops up a logout/restart requestor.
[06:01] <coreymon77> noly windoze neds that
[06:01] <coreymon77> only*
[06:01] <coreymon77> meh
[06:01] <ferret_0568> Infact, it's GUI is so deeply integrated into the system, it's in the Windoze NT kernel itself
[06:01] <coreymon77> i usually just use xkill
[06:01] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-del on the console = go to 'reboot' runlevel.
[06:01] <tinyx> thx guys i figured it out
[06:01] <tinyx> thats awesome
[06:02] <stdin> coreymon77: in case you don't want to go in to a dialog to reboot or dont want to type the command in shell
[06:02] <coreymon77> if somethings acting up for me, i usually just xkill it
[06:02] <ferret_0568> That's why the GUI in Windoze is so fast, no CPU context switches when drawing graphics
[06:02] <coreymon77> oh\
[06:02] <ferret_0568> But, you can slow down Windoze easily :-P
[06:02] <coreymon77> ferret_0568: windoze, fast?!!! since when?!!! those 2 words are oxymorons!!!
[06:02] <stdin> ferret_0568: like turn it on :p
[06:03] <ferret_0568> When you first get it, it's fast
[06:03] <tinyx> Its very possible for Windows to be fast.
[06:03] <coreymon77> ya
[06:03] <tinyx> Linux will take much more of beating though before it slows done
[06:03] <Dr_willis> but then you boot the first time. :)
[06:03] <ferret_0568> Yup
[06:03] <coreymon77> but install 1 thing on it and bam
[06:03] <tinyx> One thing?
[06:03] <tinyx> nahh..
[06:03] <coreymon77> true
[06:03] <coreymon77> not even
[06:03] <stdin> yeah, IE
[06:03] <coreymon77> LOL
[06:03] <tinyx> If you take care of it, it will work better.
[06:03] <ferret_0568> LOL
[06:03] <ferret_0568> I hate taking "care of it"
[06:03] <tinyx> Well Ubuntu has everything you need already installed..
[06:03] <ferret_0568> Yeah
[06:03] <tinyx> and whatever else is in the repos
[06:04] <Dr_willis> when i do an instll of windows.. i normaly have to spend a few hrs UNINSTALLING stuff  - darn shovel ware that dell and others put on the systems.
[06:04] <ferret_0568> See how *slow* it is?
[06:04] <tinyx> Windows runs of third-party software
[06:04] <ferret_0568> Mwahahaha!
[06:04] <ferret_0568> Me too
[06:04] <ferret_0568> I saw on my Dad's work computer, Yahoo Music Jukebox
[06:04] <coreymon77> anyways
[06:04] <lxuser> hola repositorios amule kubuntu edgy?
[06:04] <ferret_0568> Dude, you got a Dell!
[06:05] <ferret_0568> A bunch of junk software
[06:05] <tinyx> I used to have a dual-booted computer... one side had Windows 2000 for Internet, E-Mail, and IM
[06:05] <coreymon77> you guys want to know what the number 1 biggest oxymoron of the century is?
[06:05] <tinyx> and the other had XP for gaming, etc.
[06:05] <stdin> lxuser: universe
[06:05] <firecrotch> !info amule
[06:05] <tinyx> But I don't game as much as I used too... so I never got on XP
[06:05] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[06:05] <ferret_0568> At least Dell put FLAC and OGG support into WMP
[06:05] <coreymon77> biggest oxymoron of the century: Microsoft Works
[06:05] <ferret_0568> I can't install Winamp, he'll get mad
[06:05] <lxuser> stdin: universe ok :s xD , thank
[06:06] <tinyx> I use Limewire for downloading music
[06:06] <coreymon77> okay
[06:06] <coreymon77> so
[06:06] <Rictoo> how would I remove stuff from startup?
[06:06] <tinyx> I'm content with Kubuntu.. it has everything I need.
[06:06] <coreymon77> how did we get into this conversation
[06:06] <tinyx> I'd like to have MySpaceIM... haha
[06:06] <ferret_0568> Use Wine
[06:06] <Rictoo> tinx: Wine ;)
[06:06] <tinyx> I'm trying
[06:06] <coreymon77> wine
[06:06] <Rictoo> How would I remove stuff from startup?
[06:06] <tinyx> it wont start when I do that with konsole
[06:06] <Rictoo> lik programs that startup when the computer starts
[06:07] <coreymon77> Rictoo: what kind of stuff
[06:07] <Rictoo> How would I remove programs fro startup? like msconfig on windows
[06:07] <ferret_0568> ok
[06:07] <Rictoo> like stuff in the tray
[06:07] <ferret_0568> I'll tell you
[06:07] <ferret_0568> Oh
[06:07] <Rictoo> coreymon77: Like stuff in the tray.
[06:07] <ferret_0568> Well, for that, somebody else
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Rictoo,  normally you can 'close' the program and when you logout/back in it rembers and does not restart them
[06:07] <ferret_0568> But, for system services, I can tell you
[06:07] <Rictoo> I have a HORRIBLE wireless connection thing called KNetDockApp
[06:07] <tinyx> Can somebody help me with using Wine to install MySpaceIM
[06:08] <Dr_willis> tried  -->  wine myspaceiminstaller.exe
[06:08] <Dr_willis> or whatever its called.
[06:08] <ferret_0568> I don't use Samba (Windoze File Sharing) or SSH (remote command line access), so I disabled it
[06:08] <Rictoo> Guys, is there anyway to get some wireless conenction manager that tries to reconnect when it disconnects?
[06:08] <ferret_0568> install knetworkmanager
[06:08] <coreymon77> Rictoo: why is in disconnecting
[06:08] <Rictoo> ok
[06:08] <Rictoo> coreymon77: Just normal stuff
[06:08] <coreymon77> it* not in
[06:08] <ferret_0568> For GNOME, nm-applet
[06:08] <Rictoo> I have a horrible house configuration =p
[06:09] <Rictoo> the routers downstairs
[06:09] <Rictoo> sometimes it losses the signal =p
[06:09] <Rictoo> loses*
[06:09] <Rictoo> So KNetworkManager should work?
[06:09] <ferret_0568> Yeah
[06:09] <ferret_0568> I use it
[06:09] <tinyx> When I launch MySpaceIM it will open, and then close itself.
[06:09] <Rictoo> ok :D
[06:09] <Rictoo> Is there any manager especially for wireless, though?
[06:09] <ferret_0568> That one
[06:09] <Rictoo> oh :O
[06:09] <Rictoo> Thanks <3
[06:09] <ferret_0568> Well...it can also manage ethernet
[06:09] <ferret_0568> But not by default
[06:09] <Rictoo> I'm looking forward to Feisty! :D
[06:10] <ferret_0568> You have to put something in some file...
[06:10] <slow-motion> bye
[06:10] <coreymon77> Rictoo: kwifi
[06:10] <coreymon77> !info kwifi
[06:10] <ubotu> Package kwifi does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:10] <coreymon77> !info kwifimanager
[06:10] <ubotu> kwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 780 kB
[06:10] <ferret_0568> I wouldn't use that one
[06:10] <Rictoo> oops
[06:11] <Rictoo> im alrady install kneyworkmanager
[06:11] <Rictoo> =/
[06:11] <Rictoo> already installing*
[06:11] <Rictoo> netowork*
[06:11] <coreymon77> ferret_0568: why not, i like it
[06:11] <Rictoo> I CANT SPELL OMG
[06:11] <ferret_0568> Why does Kontact always create list.vcf*?
[06:12] <ferret_0568> That would be on my desktop...
[06:12] <Rictoo> my wireless connection is in eth1
[06:12] <ferret_0568> It's getting annoying
[06:12] <Rictoo> but networkmanager doesn't recognize it
[06:12] <ferret_0568> My wireless connection is in ath0
[06:12] <tinyx> Do I have to keep the terminal open the whole time the program is running?!
[06:12] <ferret_0568> What program?
[06:12] <Rictoo> knetworkmanager
[06:12] <ferret_0568> Yeah
[06:12] <Rictoo> how would I get it to recognize where my conection it? =p
[06:12] <coreymon77> tinyx: yup, if you run it from the terminal
[06:12] <ferret_0568> You could have just pressed Alt+F2
[06:12] <bobdhicks> Newbie question. I tried installing a Windows program using Wine. It didn't work. Can I remove the program by deleting the directory where it is installed, without causing any problems?
[06:13] <ferret_0568> or typed: nohup knetworkmanager
[06:13] <tinyx> Is there any other way to run it
[06:13] <Rictoo> ?
[06:13] <Rictoo> ferret_0568: You're confusing me
[06:13] <Rictoo> Whenever i opened it, it said I was disconnected
[06:13] <stdin> wlassistant maybe
[06:13] <ferret_0568> Well...nohup is advanced
[06:13] <Rictoo> but I'm not
[06:13] <stdin> !info wlassistant
[06:13] <ubotu> wlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 115 kB, installed size 572 kB
[06:13] <Rictoo> LOLok
[06:13] <Rictoo> I'' just use that XD
[06:13] <zerothis> which wifi manager is easiest for automagically connecting on boot and when in range of known networks?
[06:13] <ferret_0568> Press Alt+F2 and type in knetworkmanager or whatever and press ok or enter
[06:13] <Rictoo> stdin, I already have that
[06:13] <meuhlol> hi
[06:14] <meuhlol> someone can help me please? how can i read a ASF files in kubuntu?
[06:14] <Rictoo> ferret_0568: I did
[06:14] <Rictoo> but I'm saying, it thinks I'm dc'ed
[06:14] <Rictoo> How do I make it use eth1 ?
[06:15] <ferret_0568> I dunno
[06:15] <Rictoo> ...
[06:15] <ferret_0568> eth* is usually for ethernet
[06:15] <Rictoo> I know
[06:15] <Rictoo> but my card wasn't supported, so I did some 1337 h4x
[06:15] <Rictoo> ...
[06:15] <stdin> meuhlol: you probably need w32codecs
[06:15] <stdin> !w32codecs
[06:15] <coreymon77> Rictoo: and what card is this
[06:15] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:15] <Rictoo> and so I ended up with eth1 as wireless =p
[06:15] <Rictoo> er
[06:15] <Rictoo> I forgot :O
[06:15] <ferret_0568> I think you can fix that
[06:15] <Rictoo> I forgot the chipset =/
[06:15] <coreymon77> Rictoo: find it out
[06:15] <Rictoo> its ok
[06:15] <Rictoo> my connection works
[06:15] <Rictoo> that's all that matters =p
[06:16] <Rictoo> lemme try kwifimanager
[06:16] <coreymon77> Rictoo: ya but, if it works natively, without mucking around, thats better
[06:16] <Rictoo> true
[06:16] <ferret_0568> Oh, knetworkmanager is what I'm using
[06:16] <coreymon77> Rictoo: whats the chipset
[06:16] <Rictoo> I used... GAH I FORGET THE NAME
[06:16] <Rictoo> I didn't use ndiswrapper..
[06:16] <aaroncampbell> How can I get the temperatures from my HDDs via Kubuntu Feisty
[06:16] <Rictoo> something with 'fire' in it's name, I think
[06:16] <Rictoo> coreymon77: I said, I forgot =p
[06:16] <coreymon77> Rictoo: do you knwo what the card is?
[06:16] <ferret_0568> Well...I have a fix for knetworkmanager
[06:16] <coreymon77> Rictoo: just the card
[06:16] <Rictoo> hmm
[06:17] <Rictoo> lemme try to remember
[06:17] <Rictoo> ........
[06:17] <Rictoo> isn't the something I can ype command line?
[06:17] <Rictoo> to see?
[06:17] <coreymon77> i dunno
[06:17] <coreymon77> does anybody know of a command to see what network card/chipset you are using
[06:17] <ferret_0568> lspci
[06:18] <Rictoo> ow
[06:18] <meuhlol> stdin i know but after install & overwrite dont work :s
[06:18] <coreymon77> Rictoo: you heard him
[06:18] <Rictoo> I think this thign I used to get my card working on linux made ubuntu think it was ethernet
[06:18] <Rictoo> NO WONDER IT ISN'T RECONNECTING
[06:18] <coreymon77> Rictoo: that commadn should tell you
[06:18] <Rictoo> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0C:41:62:BA:26 inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:18] <Rictoo> Ubuntu thikns it's ethernet -.-
[06:18] <Rictoo> Not good....
[06:18] <ferret_0568> Rictoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:18] <coreymon77> yup
[06:18] <coreymon77> thats would be a problem
[06:18] <wolferine> making your box into a DHCP server is just like utilizing it as a router, correct?
[06:18] <coreymon77> Rictoo: we need to know what card you are using
[06:19] <Rictoo> ok
[06:19] <stdin> coreymon77: lspci (for PCI), lsusb (for USB) and lspcmcia (for PCMCIA)
[06:19] <Rictoo> lemme try to remember
[06:19] <Rictoo> ...
[06:19] <ferret_0568> Link encap: Ethernet is normal
[06:19] <ferret_0568> If it's named as eth*, that's not normal
[06:19] <jame> what is the virtual machine application that newest kernel supports
[06:19] <jame> (feisty)
[06:19] <Rictoo> ok
[06:19] <Rictoo> WMP54G
[06:19] <coreymon77> Rictoo: laptop or desktop
[06:19] <Rictoo> I don't remmber t chipset
[06:20] <Rictoo> desktop
[06:20] <Rictoo> I don't remember the chipset =/
[06:20] <coreymon77> ill find that out
[06:20] <Rictoo> OH
[06:20] <Rictoo> Ok
[06:20] <Rictoo> I used a program called 'fwcutter'
[06:20] <Rictoo> to get it working under Ubuntu
[06:20] <Rictoo> and it works :D
[06:20] <Rictoo> OH
[06:20] <Rictoo> The chipset is:
[06:20] <Rictoo> BCM43xx
[06:21] <Rictoo> no idea what xx is
[06:21] <Rictoo> =/
[06:21] <ferret_0568> Rictoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:21] <Rictoo> but coreymoon is looking into it
[06:21] <ferret_0568> Your wireless card is eth1?
[06:21] <Rictoo> yeah
[06:21] <Rictoo> fwcutter made it that
[06:21] <Rictoo> for some reason
[06:21] <Rictoo> ..
[06:21] <ferret_0568> That guide will fix it
[06:21] <ferret_0568> Just wait though
[06:22] <Rictoo> oh
[06:22] <Rictoo> kwifimanager works
[06:22] <Rictoo> ...
[06:24] <coreymon77> it does?
[06:24] <coreymon77> anyways, you have a broadcom chip, with usually uses ndis
[06:24] <ferret_0568> BasKet is very close to Tomboy notes
[06:24] <coreymon77> so if it works now, leave it
[06:25] <coreymon77> no reason to be messing with ndis if we dont need to\
[06:25] <cheeseboy> why am i getting port 6881 is blacklisted from torrents?
[06:27] <qkey> Selam
[06:29] <stdin> !tr | qkey
[06:29] <ubotu> qkey: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[06:30] <Tm_T> salami <3
[06:32] <coreymon77> okay...
[06:34] <coreymon77> akward silence
[06:36] <LjL> BOO
[06:36] <coreymon77> somebody say something!!!
[06:36] <jujehmufeh> heya guys
[06:36] <Tm_T> stdin: are you somebody?
[06:37] <jujehmufeh> I was thinking, is kubuntu 7.04 stable enough so I can do my job without any problems?
[06:37] <coreymon77> wait for tomorrow
[06:37] <stdin> Tm_T: I'm A somebody :)
[06:37] <coreymon77> final is released tomorrow right?
[06:37] <coreymon77> !feisty
[06:37] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:37] <Tm_T> stdin: interesting name you got
[06:37] <jujehmufeh> coreymon77: it is released tomorrow?
[06:37] <jujehmufeh> I don't like it.
[06:37] <jujehmufeh> i mean, I don't like the name "feisty"
[06:37] <coreymon77> !schedule
[06:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:38] <jujehmufeh> !dapper
[06:38] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[06:38] <Tm_T> jujehmufeh: then wait next release? ;--P
[06:38] <jujehmufeh> !edgy
[06:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[06:38] <stdin> Tm_T: found it while I was board, wasn't used in a few years, so I grabbed it
[06:38] <jujehmufeh> Tm_T: lol :D
[06:38] <coreymon77> well
[06:38] <Tm_T> stdin: A Somebody, I wonder what law allows one letter names
[06:38] <coreymon77> sometime soon
[06:39] <stdin> Tm_T: heh, no A as on "one of", ie: i'm not a nobody, I'm a somebody
[06:40] <jujehmufeh> stdin: nobody is perfect. My name is nobody.
[06:40] <Tm_T> stdin: looks like you didn't get my joke, don't worry, nobody does
[06:40] <Tm_T> I just wonder who's this mr nobody then, I hear him laughing in backrow
[06:40] <stdin> Tm_T: I got it after you said "I wonder what law allows one letter names" :)
[06:42] <Rictoo> How would I uninstall my wireless card driver?
[06:42] <Rictoo> I want to start all over with ndiswrappre =p
[06:42] <ferret_0568> I don't like that the KDE Wallet Manager always wants to open. How do I shut it off?
[06:42] <Rictoo> ferret_0568: How would I uninstall my wireless card driver? =/
[06:43] <ferret_0568> I dunno
[06:43] <Rictoo> ...
[06:43] <ferret_0568> I haven't had any experience with fwcutter
[06:43] <jujehmufeh> Rictoo: how did you install it?
[06:44] <stdin> Rictoo: I suppose you could just unload the module, then blacklist it
[06:45] <Rictoo> well
[06:45] <Rictoo> with fwcutter
[06:45] <Rictoo> it generated the driver files, and then I moved the files to some folder
[06:45] <Rictoo> forgot which xD
[06:45] <Rictoo> ...
[06:45] <Rictoo> what a horrible hack :O
[06:46] <jujehmufeh> >_>
[06:46] <jujehmufeh> download it again
[06:46] <jujehmufeh> then, do "make uninstall"
[06:46] <jujehmufeh> or was it a .deb?
[06:48] <jujehmufeh> Rictoo: sorry, i can't help people who can't type... >_>
[06:48] <carlos_> Any one has problems loading mininova in opera 9.2 (using feisty)?
[06:51] <rstanca> carlos_: works for me...
[06:52] <apus> how would I go about mounting an ISO to install something
[06:52] <Jucato> !iso
[06:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:53] <qkey> hi
[06:53] <milch> what time feisty will be released?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> milch,  when its done. :)
[06:53] <apus> and I can mount as many as I want?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> milch,  heh - this gets asked like crazy when ever the new releases come out.. have patience.
[06:54] <ferret_0568> milch: Most likely tomorrow
[06:54] <carlos_> rstanca: is working for me now, but didn't for two days :?
[06:54] <milch> i think about keep awake but i dont know if this is useful
[06:55] <carlos_> rstanca: do you have any problems with flash?
[06:55] <apus> anyway I can get a context menu to appear for isos
[06:56] <rstanca> carlos_: nothing yet, still I don`t use the feisty box too much
[06:57] <apus> mount: can't find /mount/data1/ISOs/matlab/R2006bUnixLinuxMacCD1/R2006bUnixLinuxMacCD1.iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:57] <arnor> hello World!
[06:58] <apus> can someone help me mount isos
[06:58] <arnor> did someone test Kubuntu 7.04 beta?
[06:58] <apus> I'm on it arnor
[06:58] <arnor> apus: did you see the man page of mount?
[06:58] <milch> the server which serves ubuntu.com is placed in uk. so feisty will be released 0:00 cet -1 (gmt) ? ;-)
[06:58] <arnor> apus: which filesystem do you use with Kubuntu?
[06:59] <apus> 2 partitions on ntfs, 2 on ext3 and 1 on fat32
[06:59] <Horscht> hi, it's me again. ubuntu_, ubuntu__ and Horscht86 from yesterday
[06:59] <arnor> apus: so you don't use ReiserFS?
[06:59] <apus> don't even know what that is
[06:59] <arnor> I just tried to upgrade my Xubuntu 6.10 to Kubuntu 7.04b
[06:59] <arnor> but it does not work :(
[07:00] <Horscht> i am so close to using kubuntu as my default (and only) OS: |-|
[07:00] <Horscht> but i got 2 questions still
[07:00] <jujehmufeh> arnor: how did you try to upgrade?
[07:00] <arnor> does someone know the command to format a ReiserFS parition?
[07:00] <jujehmufeh> Horscht: shoot them :P
[07:00] <arnor> jujehmufeh: with a liveDVD
[07:00] <mhaynes> Can someone advise the simplest reliable way to upgrade from Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)
[07:00] <pacman> Does anyone know if there is a driver for Linux so that I can add/delete music from my Sansa MP3 player?
[07:00] <jujehmufeh> arnor: use fdisk/cfdisk/qparted or some other formatting applications
[07:00] <jujehmufeh> *application
[07:01] <BluesKaj> reiserfs isn't used with (k)ubuntu , ext is the the deafault fs
[07:01] <Horscht> 1. when i used the live CD and tried to set my resolution to 1400x1050, i got a messed up screen and had to revert back to 1024x786
[07:01] <arnor> jujehmufeh: ok, I'll see. Thanks ;)
[07:01] <jujehmufeh> pacman: how does your mp3 handle music? like iPod, with a special application, or like a normal, say, creative muvo mp3 player, with directories and stuff?