[01:20] <ikonia> on an intel chip
[01:20] <DR_D> ikonia: error 23: Error while parsing number
[01:20] <variant> ikonia: oh, LOL
[01:20] <yoshig3> Chousuke: it's an intel integrated card I'm trying to use, since the nvidia card wasn't working
[01:20] <ikonia> DR_D: thats possible the correct drive
[01:20] <ikonia> DR_D: its going ot be trial and error
[01:20] <Chousuke> yoshig3: you need to uninstall the nvidia drivers.
[01:21] <ikonia> yoshig3: your still using the nvidia driver
[01:21] <Chousuke> yoshig3: did you install them from the nvidia driver package?
[01:21] <variant> yoshig3: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the line that reads "driver = "nvidia"" to "driver =  "vga"
[01:21] <Chousuke> yoshig3: or from apt?
[01:21] <DR_D> so should i just edit the menu.lst file until i hit the right drive number?
[01:21] <yoshig3> Chousuke: I'm not sure how to do that...any howto? I've searched, please don't put me down- but I usually end up with errors no one else gets
[01:21] <Chousuke> variant: his driver is already correct in X.org.
[01:21] <ikonia> yoshig3: how did you install the nvidia driver
[01:21] <ikonia> I suspect not from apt
[01:21] <yoshig3> Chousuke: apt
[01:21] <variant> Chousuke: why is x looking for an nvidia driver then?
[01:21] <Chousuke> variant: it's just that he still has nvidia's glx libraties.
[01:21] <Chousuke> libraries.
[01:21] <DR_D> ikonia: so should i just edit the menu.lst file until i hit the right drive number?
[01:22] <variant> yoshig3: please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:22] <yoshig3> variant: alright:
[01:22] <variant> Chousuke: shouldn't matter, x only looks for a driver if you specify it in the config file
[01:22] <ikonia> DR_D: you can do that or you can boot grub and press "e" and edit the grub menu directly to test it , then when you find it enter it into menu.lst
[01:22] <Paradosso> hey people
[01:22] <glyn> quick question
[01:22] <glyn> how do I check for packages with uninstalled dependencies?
[01:22] <Paradosso> what's a good torrent client?
[01:22] <Chousuke> variant: but nvidia's glx is incompatible with the other drivers.
[01:22] <ikonia> variant: not if he's installed the ubntutu glx kernel
[01:22] <SecrethX> is there something to check if two directories are _exactly_ the same?
[01:23] <gezzabob> im searching through the forum and pointer to any xchat /IRC docs please
[01:23] <ikonia> SecrethX: ls
[01:23] <yoshig3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3185
[01:23] <Chousuke> yoshig3: uninstall the nvidia-glx package.
[01:23] <DR_D> ikonia: thanks for the help, i'm sure i'll be back. next step is to install the nvidia drivers. i doubt thats straight forward
[01:23] <riotkittie> errr... what exactly are you looking for in these docs, gezzabob ?
[01:23] <Jowi> SecrethX, "diff"
[01:23] <ikonia> DR_D: no problem
[01:23] <variant> Chousuke: he doesnt have an nvidia kernel.. if he has the driver installed but doesn't have the card it doesnt matter, he just needs to NOT specify it in the x conf file and it should be ignored.. unless you know something i dont?
[01:23] <yoshig3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3185/
[01:23] <SecrethX> okay, thx
[01:23] <riotkittie> !irc
[01:23] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[01:24] <Chousuke> variant: the kernel module is different from the glx libraries.
[01:24] <variant> Chousuke: from the looks of the conf file, your right
[01:24] <riotkittie> gezzabob: perhaps try following one of the linkz ubotu dropped
[01:24] <gezzabob> general usage of xchat please never used it before things like how to use the "!" commands and any other things of use
[01:24] <Jowi> SecrethX, example taken from "diff --help": "diff dir1 dir2"
[01:24] <variant> yoshig3: as Chousuke says, uninstallt he nvidia drivers
[01:24] <SecrethX> okay Jowi thx
[01:24] <yoshig3> variant: how do I do that/
[01:24] <yoshig3> *?
[01:24] <yoshig3> I'm not sure of the commands
[01:24] <Chousuke> yoshig3: so what you need to do is uninstall nvidia-glx and install libgl1-mesa-glx
[01:24] <riotkittie> oh. gezzabob  try ... man xchat at a prompt  or perhaps there is a help built into one of the menus, click around
[01:25] <variant> yoshig3: apt-get remove nvidia-driver
[01:25] <gezzabob> oh yes see them now thanks will look through them and do a bit of research thank all]
[01:25] <variant> i think thats the package name
[01:25] <riotkittie> alternately, cd to /usr/share/doc/xchat and poke around there
[01:25] <yoshig3> Chousuke: can I PM you possibly?
[01:25] <variant> yoshig3: you need to have registered your nick on freenode to pm people..
[01:25] <gezzabob> oh yep forgot about our friend the man pages cheers
[01:25] <yoshig3> Yeah, I'm registered
[01:26] <riotkittie> ooh my wrist is falling foo. err. off.
[01:26] <variant> so you are
[01:26] <Chousuke> yoshig3: there's the package manager in the menus somewhere.
[01:26] <Chousuke> yoshig3: you can use that to install and remove packages.
[01:26] <yoshig3> Yeah, synaptic
[01:26] <Chousuke> yeah, use that.
[01:26] <Chousuke> and install libgl1-mesa-glx, and remove nvidia-glx
[01:26] <zcat[1] > de=+zaqo%,cw=Z] PUMsPb>)
[01:26] <zcat[1] > Oops
[01:27] <Chousuke> now we know your root password!
[01:27] <gezzabob> well im off to read up on xchat thanks riotkittie have a nice day :D
[01:28] <yoshig3> Chousuke: I'm removing them now. After removing them, what should I do?
[01:28] <yoshig3> Restart X?
[01:28] <yoshig3> oh yes, install libgl1-mesa-glx
[01:28] <Chousuke> yeah. and then restart X
[01:29] <Chousuke> make sure that you install and remove the packages at the same time. otherwise, it may remove X as well, since it depends on GLX I think
[01:30] <yoshig3> there libgl1-mesa-glx is already installed
[01:30] <Chousuke> though it should remove nvidia-glx if you just select the mesa glx for installation, since they conflict.
[01:30] <yoshig3> libgl1-mesa-glx is already installed, but there is also libgl1-mesa-sw11 or something
[01:31] <Chousuke> hmm.
[01:31] <Chousuke> I thought they were conflicting packages.
[01:31] <Chousuke> oh well
[01:31] <Chousuke> did you remove the nvidia package? :)
[01:31] <yoshig3> woah
[01:31] <yoshig3> glx works now
[01:31] <yoshig3> hrm, lemme give you numbers
[01:32] <yoshig3> OUCH, 375
[01:32] <Chousuke> hmmh
[01:32] <Chousuke> sounds a bit low :P
[01:32] <yoshig3> So do you think this could handle beryl? That's terrible framerates
[01:32] <yoshig3> Yeah, that's what I'm saying
[01:32] <Chousuke> is libgl1-mesa-dri installed? should be :P
[01:32] <yoshig3> but, glxgears isn't a bench, just a test for glx
[01:32] <yoshig3> let me check
[01:32] <Chousuke> well, I'm sure you should be getting at least 1000fps.
[01:33] <Chousuke> if not more.
[01:33] <yoshig3> yeah, dri is installed
[01:33] <yoshig3> -dev isnlt
[01:33] <yoshig3> *isn't
[01:33] <Chousuke> no need for it.
[01:33] <yoshig3> I'm also using i810 drivers, from the xorg config, not mesa
[01:34] <Chousuke> that should be fine.
[01:34] <yoshig3> let me restart the ubuntu comp
[01:35] <Chousuke> you can take another look at the X.org logs and see if there's anything there.
[01:36] <shifty> i <3 the memory management!
[01:37] <shifty> it has been 40% stable thru out the whole day
[01:37] <Majic> Yay?
[01:37] <kraut> moin
[01:38] <SecrethX> how do you label a FAT32 partition? ;o
[01:38] <yoshig3> still 375 for fps
[01:38] <flo> can ayone help me?if i have my webcam pluged in when i bootup tvtime wont see my tvcard anymore , how can i solve that?
[01:38] <Chousuke> yoshig3: pastebin the logs again
[01:39] <yoshig3> what was the log path again"
[01:40] <variant> yoshig3: glxgears is a benchmarking tool..
[01:40] <DR_D> ikonia: i'm really confused now, it seems that grub won't boot my XP no matter what i set the rootnoverify hd number to
[01:40] <sisplau> hola
[01:40] <Smyds> Hello
[01:41] <variant> yoshig3: you should use aiglx not xgl on that.. and yes, it will work but will be kinda slow
[01:42] <soundray> variant: try 'glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'
[01:42] <Thug-N-Me> whats this tar jxvf courier-authlib-0.59.1.tar.bz2  tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory ???
[01:42] <koji> i installed an nvidia agp card, now X doesnt start. what do i do? thanks
[01:43] <soundray> koji: can you log in on the console?
[01:43] <Jowi> Thug-N-Me, is it installed? "apt-cache policy bzip2"
[01:43] <Thug-N-Me> Jowi i dont want to install it i want to compile it myself
[01:44] <variant> soundray: huh?
[01:44] <lupine_85> what on earth for? :D
[01:44] <lupine_85> but yeah. apt-get -b source bzip2 then
[01:44] <soundray> variant: glxgears is not a benchmark
[01:44] <Jowi> Thug-N-Me, is bzip2 installed? if it is, you haven't specified the correct path to the file
[01:44] <Jowi> Thug-N-Me, "apt-cache policy bzip2"
[01:45] <killaz> hi Ubuntu!
[01:45] <rusher> hi killaz
[01:45] <shifty> hi
[01:45] <killaz> :-)
[01:45] <antibody> :/ in herd how can I config cpufreq stuff from gui? the options in power  configuration is not there anymore
[01:45] <sisplau> :P
[01:45] <antibody> herd2
[01:45] <name> beryl reduces the result of glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:45] <soundray> !feisty | antibody
[01:45] <name> oh by 5000 :)
[01:45] <ubotu> antibody: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:46] <variant> soundray: it may not be intended as one, but it's perfectly reasonableto use it as one
[01:46] <antibody> it was ok from the instalation in the cd..I updated in the net...and it changed
[01:46] <killaz> where can I get the md5sum? I searched for it on the download section, but cant find it.....
[01:46] <DR_D> ikonia: you around?
[01:47] <variant> soundray: sure it only tests a couple of gl features but if thats all you want to testthen so what?
[01:47] <nightripe> hi, anybody gots a way to know my memory spec(constructor model etc...) on my laptop ?
[01:48] <soundray> variant: glxgears was misunderstood so frequently that the developers introduced the above command line option.
[01:48] <soundray> variant: so it's reasonable to point to the caveats
[01:48] <killaz> I find it strange that the md5sum file is not in the download section..
[01:48] <variant> soundray: haha, ok, but if your aware of that then it doesn't change the fact that you can still use it to benchmark certain features..
[01:49] <IdleOne> killaz: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[01:49] <variant> soundray: i didn't know of that option (its quite funny) but I was aware that ther is better ways to benchmark
[01:50] <variant> soundray: i guess your right, it's not a suitable tool for benchmarking
[01:50] <killaz> thnx found it..
[01:50] <killaz> IdleOne: thnx
[01:54] <glyn> how do I check for packages with uninstalled dependencies?
[01:55] <Flosoft> hey
[01:55] <Flosoft> what package do I need to run pecl?
[01:57] <frogzoo> Flosoft: apt-cache search pecl | less
[01:57] <Flosoft> well it gives me a dh-make-php
[01:57] <Flosoft> and php4-ps
[01:58] <Creedence> hi everyone... I am having problems installing the fglrx drivers on my ATI card and I am completely lost. Is there anyone that can help?
[01:58] <Flosoft> but I have a PHP5 server
[01:58] <gezzabob> anybody know the command to lock the screen and enable the screen saver, i am tring to set up a key comination to lock the screen when I leave the computer.  (a bit like windows+L)  I set it up before in gnome but I am using FXCE now im in the keyboard preferences and it is asking for the command thanks
[01:58] <SecrethX> i have loads of lag :x
[01:59] <SecrethX> Enverex, ?
[01:59] <Enverex> SecrethX, Was trying to see how laggy you were
[01:59] <SecrethX> myea, I think its just xchat..
[02:00] <GuerillaTactiks> Hello, Iam trying to install openldev (c editor) .deb file but it says I lack a libvte4 in the GDebi installer. I have looked for this and found I have libvte9 installed but not 4, how do I solve this?
[02:00] <Jowi> gezzabob, "gnome-screensaver-command --lock"
[02:00] <Flannel> gezzabob: apparently xflock4 is the command that XFCE uses
[02:00] <Enverex> * Ping reply from SecrethX: ? second(s)
[02:00] <SecrethX> the bar on the right was displaying 30 secs of lag..
[02:00] <SecrethX> yea
[02:00] <kees-jan> Hi all
[02:00] <Jowi> gezzabob, ah, xfce. missed that part :)
[02:00] <glyn> how do I check for packages with unmetdependencies?  anyone know?
[02:00] <chris_shafto> why can you only have one audio output at a time?
[02:00] <glyn> apt-get install -f?
[02:00] <SecrethX> I was cp'ing 8G, so i think xchat was somehow affected by it ;O
[02:00] <Flannel> glyn: all packages you've installed have dependencies that are met
[02:00] <soundray> glyn: yes
[02:01] <kees-jan> I'm seeing some strange behaviour in gnome on edgy, and am wondering whether this is a bug
[02:01] <glyn> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 241 not upgraded.
[02:01] <romhalmaz> hi
[02:01] <Jowi> chris_shafto, because your soundcard does not support hardware mixing. see here: !dmix
[02:01] <glyn> how do I fix that?
[02:01] <Creedence> hi everyone... I am having problems installing the fglrx drivers on my ATI card and I am completely lost. Is there anyone that can help?
[02:01] <soundray> glyn: 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[02:02] <gezzabob> yes xflock4 worked thank you :D
[02:02] <glyn> 234 upgraded, 209 newly installed, 41 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[02:02] <glyn> is that right?
[02:02] <kees-jan> Any gnome-expert around? ;-)
[02:02] <Creedence> after I install the ATI driver and run flgrxinfo it doesn't say I am using the ATI driver
[02:02] <chris_shafto> !dmix
[02:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:02] <glyn> thanks soundray gunna try this
[02:02] <Nik_Doof> how do I change a disk's name/label? I've got 3 usb keys with nice names of usbdisk, usbdisk-1, usbdisk-2
[02:02] <soundray> glyn: are you going from dapper to edgy?
[02:02] <glyn> from breezy to dapper
[02:02] <SecrethX> !Players
[02:02] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:02] <soundray> glyn: hold on...
[02:02] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence : if your using 6.10 they are in the Add/remove window AFAIK
[02:02] <shifty> fiery what ?
[02:03] <gezzabob> Doh it was already setup on ctrl alt and del just noticed sorry :O
[02:03] <soundray> glyn: this could fail unless you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[02:03] <glyn> I have it installed :D
[02:03] <soundray> glyn: should be okay then
[02:03] <glyn> thanks soundray
[02:03] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - add/remove?
[02:04] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence : Yeah, In the applications menu
[02:04] <soundray> glyn: is your last name Moody? ;)
[02:04] <mewt> is there an application that sends sounds to each channel of your surround sounds in series ? id like to know if my surround is working or not
[02:05] <glyn> lol well I get really frustrated sometimes when things don't work out on Linux
[02:05] <shifty> lol
[02:05] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - I never looked there. I knew about synaptic and always just went there :)
[02:05] <Nik_Doof> mewt: speaker-test
[02:05] <Nik_Doof> iirc
[02:05] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence : "Applications"->"Add/Remove" -> in search type "ATI x.org" and it should be top result
[02:06] <pradeep> How can I find out the flags enabled(during compilation) of an installed ubuntu package?
[02:06] <chris_shafto> Does having ALSA set as default audio output limit to only one audio output at a time?
[02:06] <soundray> glyn: you're not this Glyn Moody then: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyn_Moody
[02:06] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - okay I must have installed that from the prompt.
[02:06] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - it is already installed
[02:07] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence : I installed ubtuntu yesterday and was suprised at how easy they have made installing the driver this time
[02:07] <ott0> newb question: can I put the files from the 1CD iso onto a clean drive, boot from that drive, and then somehow install ubuntu on that drive?
[02:07] <mewt> Nik_Doof, i tried speaker-test but all i got was distortion
[02:07] <esaym> In ubuntu lamp what controls the log rotations of apache?
[02:07] <GuerillaTactiks> Hello, Iam trying to install openldev (c editor) .deb file but it says I lack a libvte4 in the GDebi installer. I have looked for this and found I have libvte9 installed but not 4, how do I solve this?
[02:07] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - I have never gotten it to work. do you mind if I PM you the result of flgrxinfo?
[02:07] <esaym> there is nothing is cron but the logs are being rotated
[02:07] <Flannel> ott0: you burn the ISO to the cd, but apart from that, yeah.  One CD will do it, on a new drive, oran old one, or whatever
[02:07] <Nik_Doof> mewt: check the man, i think theres an option to select what speaker the noise comes out of :)
[02:07] <variant> esaym: a package called logrotate funnily enoug
[02:08] <chris_shafto> Does having ALSA set as default audio output limit to only one audio output at a time?
[02:08] <pradeep> ott0, yes
[02:08] <mewt> Nik_Doof, will do thanks ;)
[02:08] <Nik_Doof> mewt: or you can use the -w to specify a audio file
[02:08] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence: I am a beginner, so I probably wont have a clue
[02:08] <ott0> Flannel: yeah, the problem is I don't have a cd burner
[02:08] <esaym> hmm
[02:08] <ott0> ;)
[02:08] <Flannel> ott0: oh, you want ... right, I reread that.
[02:08] <Flannel> !install | ott0, lots of ways! see if one is right for you
[02:08] <ubotu> ott0, lots of ways! see if one is right for you: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:08] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - ahhh, thanks for the help though!
[02:08] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - I am just starting out as well
[02:09] <ott0> !install
[02:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:09] <esaym> I thought because the apache logs where in their own dirctory that it would have to be configured
[02:09] <esaym> but there is nothing in logrotate or cron for apache
[02:09] <ott0> oh, oops ;)
[02:09] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence: No problem, should be getting more easier with every ubuntu
[02:09] <Alpha232> esaym: are you sure?
[02:10] <variant> esaym: then it's probably an apache config option (maximum log size for example)
[02:10] <esaym> pretty sure
[02:10] <Creedence> when I run fglrxinfo I get the following error on the first line - Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:10] <Muchtar^Ratuliu> how too use java in my opera browser
[02:10] <Alpha232> esaym: check /etc/logrotate.d
[02:10] <fong> hi guys
[02:10] <esaym> well my problem is apache restarts every night at 4am (my time for daily cron).  When it restarts it kills some mods i have running
[02:10] <esaym> ohhhh forgot about that folder...
[02:10] <Alpha232> esaym: if you installed the apache package... it will install the log roller
[02:10] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence: And BTW its easy to install all the codecs to play DVD MP3 etc now. And as for your problem, google may have someone with same problem
[02:11] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me install the game QUAKE 3 ARENA from a CD?????
[02:11] <Enselic`> When I pick "Open with MPlayer" for example, exatcly what commands is then executed?
[02:11] <onats> when i do lspci, this shows under the Audio Device:  Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Unknown device 0001
[02:11] <Alpha232> esaym: what mods do you have running
[02:11] <esaym> torrentflux
[02:11] <alecjw> ott0: you can also get free ubuntu cds from shipit
[02:11] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - I have done a lot of searching and a lot of guides are out there but not much to help with this prob really
[02:11] <esaym> when it rotates the logs it kills it
[02:11] <Creedence> when I run fglrxinfo I get the following error on the first line - Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:11] <kenthomson> cans omeone help me isntals dplase?
[02:12] <Enselic`> kenthomson: what have you tried?
[02:12] <ithaxor> heey i need help with my ati radeon 9800 can some one help me?
[02:12] <kenthomson> Enselic`, i am having the windows installation cd for quake 3 arena
[02:12] <esaym> the apache log rotate calls /etc/init.d/apache2 restart > /dev/null
[02:12] <Alpha232> esaym: yes it does...
[02:12] <kenthomson> Enselic`, i can't get some run file from the internet
[02:12] <wolfwalker> Is there any reason anybody can think of for Windows XP being able to run on my computer but Ubuntu not being able to?
[02:12] <esaym> any reason why it restarts it?
[02:12] <Enselic`> kenthomson: never done this, but we can try
[02:12] <kenthomson> Enselic`, that would help
[02:13] <Alpha232> esaym: because it needs to close the filehandle on the log and open a new one..
[02:13] <esaym> hmm
[02:13] <Alpha232> esaym:  server opens the Inode for the log file
[02:13] <Alpha232> esaym: writes to that inode
[02:13] <Enselic`> kenthomson: lets do this privatly
[02:13] <Enselic`> kenthomson: I preivate messaged you
[02:13] <Alpha232> esaym: log roller renames the log file
[02:13] <kenthomson> Enselic`, didn't get it
[02:13] <Alpha232> esaym: filename changes but the inode is till the same and the file handle still remains open
[02:13] <kenthomson> Enselic`, join #kensworld
[02:13] <Alpha232> esaym: you need to kill the server to close the filehandle and reopen...
[02:13] <Enselic`> kenthomson: what IRC client do you use?
[02:14] <esaym> So I can't just comment out the restart then?
[02:14] <kenthomson> Enselic`, xchat
[02:14] <Alpha232> esaym: i think there IS a way to do it without killing bit i can't remember
[02:14] <Enselic`> kenthomson: which version?
[02:14] <Alpha232> esaym: that won't help with rolling the logs... do you need to roll them every day?
[02:14] <ithaxor> heey i need help with my ati radeon 9800 can some one help me?
[02:14] <kenthomson> Enselic`, 2.6.6
[02:14] <Enselic`> look to the left
[02:14] <Enselic`> kenthomson: you will see my name as a channel
[02:14] <kenthomson> Enselic`, don't have it
[02:14] <esaym> http://www.torrentflux.com/forum/index.php?topic=1767.0 here someone says to do a "graceful restart"
[02:14] <kenthomson> Enselic`, join #kensworld
[02:14] <esaym> what is that? google didn't turn up much...
[02:15] <Alpha232> esaym: so... change the restart command
[02:15] <ithaxor> heey i need help with my ati radeon 9800 can some one help me?
[02:15] <esaym> yes but what is "graceful restart" and the command for it?
[02:15] <onats> when i do lspci, this shows under the Audio Device:  Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Unknown device 0001, does this mean there's a problem with the drivers?
[02:15] <GuerillaTactiks> Creedence: ttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Xlib%3A++extension+%22XFree86-DRI%22+missing+on+display+%22%3A0.0%22&btnG=Search&meta=
[02:15] <Alpha232> esaym: it lets the server finish up things
[02:16] <Alpha232> esaym: apache2ctl graceful
[02:16] <Alin4leX> hello
[02:17] <Alin4leX> i have problems with vmware
[02:17] <Creedence> GuerillaTactics - that is more help with nvidia than ati though
 Your problem is?
[02:17] <Alin4leX> can somebody help me pls?
[02:17] <esaym> Yes I just found apachectl -k graceful in the apache manual.  Thank you Alpha232
[02:17] <tom47> !ask > Alin4leX
[02:18] <Alpha232> esaym: but just change the file to say do it monthly
[02:18] <Alpha232> i'm going to bed...
[02:18] <Alin4leX> i have deleted all files that vmware had installed and no i can;t reinstall it
[02:18] <Majic> OKay, really big problem.  I love how I can seriously f*** up a system.
[02:18] <tom47> Alin4leX: have you tried #vmware?
[02:18] <Majic> I used the GNOME partition editor to re-label my whole hard disk to amiga.  How do I get what I had back?
[02:19] <esaym> hmm yea but then I would have one huge log
[02:19] <Majic> *of course, this was an accident*
[02:19] <Enselic`> Majic: did you back up?
[02:19] <Majic> Nope.  :/
[02:19] <Majic> I'm screwed, right?
[02:19] <Enselic`> Majic: probably...
[02:19] <rammbock1235> i want to create a udev rule which shall execute a script if i plug in my external drive. now, the script should start the program xfce4-terminal. what must the script look like? :\
[02:19] <Majic> It still ran after I did that.  Everything on the drive was still accessable, until I shut it down and rebooted.
[02:20] <Majic> So, everything is still there...but the Partition map is gone?
[02:20] <Telroth> perhaps
 when i type fglrxinfo its shows like that
[02:20] <Enselic`> Majic: ok well then you should be fine
[02:20] <Enselic`> Majic: what does it say when you boot?
[02:20] <ithaxor> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:20] <ithaxor> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[02:20] <ithaxor> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:20] <ithaxor> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:20] <ithaxor> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[02:20] <kyoletta>  /server irc.blukir-darkside.net
[02:20] <Majic> It loads grub.
[02:20] <Telroth> Majic, if you can rebuild the partition table, you can probably get your data back
[02:20] <Majic> And that's all...
[02:21] <Telroth> Majic
[02:21] <Telroth> whic partition of which drive was linux installed on?
[02:21] <Majic> I had 1GB for swap, 10Gb NTFS for Vista, 10GB for Ubuntu, and 79GB of unformatted free space.
[02:21] <Majic> I had the Linux partition on hda2 (I think)
[02:21] <Majic> hda2 or 3...
[02:21] <jonah1980> hi guys i've got two screens set up. a small 14inch and a 19icnh. i've managed to get both on at once, however the smaller one seems to have extra space at the bottom off the screen, even though i've set the resolution. can anyone help me set these up. also can i get them to act as different desktops rather than one big screen? what's best setup?
[02:21] <ithaxor> i need help with my graficcard atir radeon 9800
[02:21] <Telroth> Majic, can you boot up in a live cd?
[02:21] <emilsedgh_> could someine help me on installing beryl?I cant setup Direct Rendering
[02:21] <Majic> Yes...
[02:22] <Smyds> where I can find a project to be helped ?
[02:22] <Telroth> emilsedgh_ >> #ubuntu-xgl
[02:22] <Enselic`> emilsedgh_: sure
 Creedence has same problem as you, help each other lol
[02:22] <ithaxor> what??::
[02:22] <Enselic`> emilsedgh_: I've privmessaged you
[02:22] <Enselic`> emilsedgh_: you should see my name among the channels...
[02:22] <Majic> *inserts Ubuntu LiveCD and powers on*
[02:23] <Telroth> Enselic`, he may not be able to reply if his name isn't regisererd
[02:23] <esaym> Crap.  Alpha232: slocate says that apachectl is not on my computer.  Any ideas?
[02:23] <Telroth> *registered
[02:23] <Enselic`> Telroth: oh
[02:23] <Kamber> Hey guys. I have a problem getting my sound to work. I remember it playing the jingle when I started the ubuntu live-cd to install. But after finishing the installation, I don't have sound anymore. I've been surfing various forums, but I'm sorta hampered by not knowing half of what people are talking about. It seems to me that I need to update the alsa-drivers (at least that solved the problem for some of those whose problem seemed sim
[02:23] <Enselic`> emilsedgh_: did you follow the steps in the beryl wiki?
[02:23] <Majic> This whole mess started when i was trying to get the UUID of my last partition.  I though Drive Label in gparted was the one for that...*stupid me*
[02:24] <Telroth> UUID's are a pain,, Majic
[02:24] <tom47> !UUID
[02:24] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:24] <Majic> Thanks tom. :)
[02:24] <Majic> That would have saved me a lot of trouble...lol
[02:24] <Majic> Okay, LiveCD is up and running.
[02:27] <ithaxor> CAN SOME ONE HELP ME WITH MY GRAFICCARD?
[02:27] <Majic> Umm, what exactly do I do once I have the LiveCD running?  How do I rebuild the partition map?
[02:27] <Majic> *without erasing anything*
[02:27] <esaym> ok Alpha232: looks like apache2ctl -k graceful is the command
[02:28] <Telroth> Majic, can you still see the partitions?
[02:28] <Majic> Nope, they don't show in /dev.  :/
[02:29] <Telroth> :(
[02:29] <Majic> Yep, I'm screwed..
[02:29] <Telroth> you'd have to use a tool like parted or fdisk
[02:29] <brucebat> hi
[02:29] <Telroth> and know how big exactly each one was
[02:29] <Majic> I was thinking about fdisk. :D
[02:29] <Majic> I know exactly...
[02:29] <Telroth> in sectors?
[02:29] <Majic> I did it 4 hours ago.
[02:29] <killaz> how safe is it to partition my NTFS drive using the partition utility of ubunut?
[02:29] <Telroth> gb/mb are inaccurate :P
[02:29] <killaz> ubuntu?
[02:30] <Majic> Darn, I wish I had listed the sectors...
[02:30] <Telroth> if you have mb to 3 decimal places that might also work
[02:30] <Majic> I have an idea, I'll simulate it in gparted to find out the sectors and rigth them down. :)
[02:30] <Majic> write*
[02:30] <brucebat> killaz: make sure you have backed up everything before you try this
[02:30] <killaz> I backed up all important thing but still Im wondering what your experience are
[02:30] <Majic> I just won't carry out the partitions I'll make it think I want to apply.
[02:31] <Majic> *if that makes sense*
[02:31] <Telroth> yeah
[02:31] <Telroth> but the numbers have to be exactly the same
[02:31] <yeled> anyone ever used multiple swap partitions?
[02:31] <Telroth> accurate to 3 ecimal places
[02:31] <yeled> on different disks
[02:31] <Telroth> *decimal
[02:31] <killaz> or no NTFS/Windows users in here ;-)
[02:31] <Majic> god nothing to lose...
[02:31] <Majic> got*
[02:31] <Telroth> killaz, it's decen't
[02:32] <Telroth> killaz, it works for resizing and moving
[02:32] <Telroth> *decent
[02:32] <Telroth> your mileage may vary
[02:32] <killaz> Telroth: exactly what I want to do, resize
[02:32] <Telroth> defrag your drive first
[02:32] <yeled> uh
[02:32] <Telroth> with windows
[02:33] <Telroth> or it'll take forever :P
[02:33] <ernz> Does anyone here know of a Frontend GUI for mencoder?
[02:33] <Majic> I tried looking for fdisk with apt-get and it said util-linux replaced it.  How do I start that? 0.o
[02:33] <Telroth> "fdisk"
[02:33] <Telroth> err
[02:34] <Majic> ahaha, I suck
[02:34] <Telroth> "sudo fdisk /dev/hd[a/b/c/d/e] " (whatever your drive is
[02:34] <Majic> I didn't know it was already installed. :)
[02:34] <killaz> Telroth: yup already done that I even removd the swap and hibernate space to defrag
[02:34] <Telroth> Majic, what that message meant was that fdisk is no longer a separate package
[02:35] <Majic> Oh, okay... :)
[02:35] <Telroth> killaz, then just using gparted should work to resize. I recomend you back up your data though, linux isn't the best with windows stuff, only windows is
[02:36] <SecrethX> how can you play m2v in totem?
[02:36] <killaz> ok. I want to install linux on my laptop. It's my companies laptop, so I HAVE to leave the windows installation on it...
[02:36] <AtomD> I'm sorry, but I tried to install the Nvidia drivers, but it keeps saying I should log in as root. How?
[02:36] <killaz> otherwise I would have removed it yesterday..
[02:37] <Telroth> killaz, start by backing up the harddrive if you can't afford to lose windows
[02:37] <killaz> yeah I'm already doing that.... burning data on CD
[02:37] <Majic> What are cylinders in?  Mb? or...
[02:37] <jlc> AtomD: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[02:37] <Majic> *stupid question but I don't know*
[02:37] <brucebat> SecrethX: install xine as backend for totem
[02:37] <SecrethX> totem-xine?
[02:37] <Telroth> Majic, cylinders are cylinders
[02:37] <Majic> Ugh, gparted doesn't display those.. *sob*
[02:38] <glyn> on most ubuntu installers, you will have a guided partitioning
[02:38] <heatxsink> is the BIND db's directory in /var/cache/bind/ ?
[02:38] <Telroth> Majic, no specific translation
[02:38] <glyn> for Killaz I mean
[02:38] <brucebat> SecrethX: or install good, bad and ugly plugins for gstreamer
[02:38] <jlc> AtomD: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[02:38] <AtomD> Thank you jlc. I shall try that.
[02:38] <brucebat> SecrethX, yes
[02:38] <jlc> np
[02:38] <SecrethX> brucebat, ill do both just to make sure ;P
[02:38] <brucebat> you cant
[02:38] <killaz> glyn: yeah I know that, but I was wonderig what your experience with it was..
[02:39] <glyn> Oh, I have been able to run both Linux and Windows systems just fine
[02:39] <killaz> cause even though I'm a ubuntu user, I never used the partitioner.
[02:39] <brucebat> SecrethX, you can only install one of these two backends
[02:39] <Telroth> despite all the warnings killaz, i've never had any trouble with ntfs support in linux
[02:39] <glyn> yeah, the partitioner is pretty good
[02:39] <SecrethX> brucebat, oh okay, ill try xine first, and then the gstreamer
[02:40] <AmbientMstr> And now for a hilarious untrue, but meant to be sarcastic message from MrSir
[02:40] <tom47> !guarantee
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guarantee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <killaz> the idea is to have 4 partition.... the old one with windows... second one with data, thrid one with linux and fourth one for swap
[02:40] <AmbientMstr> MSPAINT OWNS GIMP
[02:40] <shifty> o.o
[02:40] <shifty> lol
[02:40] <Telroth> killaz, obviously, you might have problems, or else the warnings wouldn't exist, but i've found that the nfts coders are pretty good :)
[02:40] <SecrethX> lol AmbientMstr
[02:40] <shifty> are u sure AmbientMstr
[02:40] <Telroth> *ntfs
[02:40] <morpheus74> Trying to get wifi card working with Ubuntu.  When I go to Synaptic and get ndiswraper there is some utils listed, which ones should I get?
[02:40] <AmbientMstr> (5:40:12 AM) killaz: the idea is to have 4 partition.... the old one with windows... second one with data, thrid one with linux and fourth one for swap
[02:40] <shifty> what is ur wifi carD?
[02:40] <AmbientMstr> I set mine up with only 2 primaries
[02:40] <killaz> Telroth: I wont write or read the ntfs partition when Im in ubuntu
[02:41] <AmbientMstr> And one extended with 3
[02:41] <AmbientMstr> Logicals
[02:41] <morpheus74> Linksys
[02:41] <AmbientMstr> Now I can actually see my shared partition
[02:41] <AmbientMstr> =D
[02:41] <Telroth> killaz, it still all uses libntfs and ntfs-tools ;)
[02:41] <bef> morpheus74: what is your wifi card, ubuntu can work out of the box with your details through system>admin>networking... essid etc.
[02:41] <SecrethX> brucebat, xine doesnt work, and I already had the good, bad and ugly sets installed before.. could be that the file is corrupted though..
[02:42] <morpheus74> bef, My card is a Linksys WPC54G v.3
[02:42] <pbureau> morpheus74- what does lspci indicate your card is (ie paste the line for ethernet card only)
[02:42] <Telroth> SecrethX, what format are you trying to play?
[02:42] <SecrethX> brucebat, hmm yea, the file is corrupted, another m2v works..
[02:42] <AmbientMstr> Now for a hilarious sequel to the shortly-anticipated last crazy ass message courtesy of Mr Sir
[02:42] <SecrethX> Telroth, m2v, but as I said, it is a corrupted file
[02:42] <AmbientMstr> I RUN A WINDOWS ME COMPUTER WITH NO VIRUS SCANNERS
[02:43] <psynaps3> hi ppl, i am having this problem in my dell laptop where something keeps resetting the boot flag to the windows partition. if i set it to the /boot partition, the next time i reboot windows, it gets set back to the windows partition. any idea what is causing this?
[02:43] <Telroth> SecrethX, yeah, i saw that right after i asked
[02:43] <SecrethX> Telroth, okay :)
[02:43] <effie_jayx> AmbientMstr,  Brave... very brave...
[02:43] <Telroth> AmbientMstr, that's not very hard
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> Lol
[02:43] <Telroth> kept mine clean for two years
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> ;)
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> Dur
[02:43] <Telroth> until i upgrade to xp
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> Lol
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> But you're missing the fact
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> ...That it's ME
[02:43] <glyn> lol Windows ME "upgrade"
[02:43] <onats> can anyone help me? my sound's still not working!!!!!
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> In the words of the comic book guy
[02:43] <AmbientMstr> "Worst. Upgrade.  What's 98?
[02:44] <glyn> lol yeah
[02:44] <morpheus74> When I type lspci at command line I get: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN controller (rev 02)
[02:44] <AmbientMstr> I went from XP to ME, dumbass
[02:44] <AmbientMstr> LOL
[02:44] <AmbientMstr> LMAO
[02:44] <AmbientMstr> What will MS think of next
[02:44] <effie_jayx> AmbientMstr, that's MR dumbass for you..
[02:45] <kihai> well, I guess, I did it..:( messed up my win partition by reading from ntfs over linux. Now I can't login to windows anymore. I only get to the login screen. After I entered my pw, windows goes dead. Any suggestions what I could do about this? Really don't want to do a reinstall of Windows.
[02:45] <abhinay> Anybody, How to create a Video CD ?
[02:45] <AmbientMstr> I think what's funnier is their debugger's called Dr. Watson
[02:45] <AmbientMstr> Yay...Watson.
[02:45] <bef> morpheus74: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[02:45] <Telroth> AmbientMstr, apparently, since the network stack in XP was getting too secure after 5 years of bugfixes and revisions, they decided to throw it away and start over in vista
[02:45] <effie_jayx> kihai,  don't write on ntfs... :S
[02:46] <DrSir> Uh oh. MrSir changed his title.
[02:46] <kihai> I didn't write, I only copied from there
[02:46] <Telroth> reading shouldn't affect the partition :/
[02:46] <abhinay> !vcd > abhinay
[02:46] <Telroth> did it get moved?
[02:46] <kihai> well, it obviously did
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Telroth> kihai, was the partition moved, resized, or anything else?
[02:47] <DrSir> Telroth: Well, they changed a lot of the kernel, and while they didn't change it completely, I WILL be eager to see how well it does when it's fully in the wild. Of course, there will always be hacks when you're top dog, keep that in mind, folks, but I like the fact that Vista will require less restarts for drivers... as it remains to be seen. Of course, I'll wait to upgrade. We'll see if DX10 is important.
[02:47] <brucebat> morpheus74, mencoder should be able to do that
[02:47] <kihai> no, but I started gparted a while before. Didn't change anything, though!
[02:47] <DrSir> Mencoder...
[02:47] <GMWeezel> How can I change the default home folder?
[02:47] <DrSir> That's sounds like a gay band's parody of programming
[02:47] <DrSir> It's coding men!
[02:47] <glyn> lol
[02:47] <Telroth> kihai, do you have linux installed or did you just load gparted from a livecd?
[02:48] <DrSir> C++! It's going MEN
[02:48] <DrSir> *coding
[02:48] <kihai> I just copied my whole Incoming Folder to my external ext3 drive. So I had to do it from linux
[02:48] <brucebat> GMWeezel, what do you want to change?
[02:48] <SecrethX> im off..
[02:48] <SecrethX> cya
[02:48] <psynaps3> hi ppl, i am having this problem in my dell laptop where something keeps resetting the boot flag to the windows partition. if i set it to the /boot partition, the next time i reboot windows, it gets set back to the windows partition. any idea what is causing this?
[02:48] <brucebat> bye
[02:48] <kihai> No, I have Ubuntu 6.10 installed, and on a 20gig partition theres windows for gaming only.
[02:48] <GMWeezel> brucebat:I was going to mount an encrypted virtual partition and set my home folder inside of it so my files could be encrypted.
[02:49] <brucebat> psynaps3, yout have to edit you /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <Telroth> GMWeezel, truCrypt is a good thing for that...
[02:49] <kihai> I successfully logged in via safe mode, but the second time I tried, it didn't work, either
[02:50] <Telroth> kihai, if you were able to log in once but not a second time, i think that's a sign that windnows is being degenerative (killing itself)
[02:50] <kihai> Also did a complete run of chkdisk before booting. no errors reported, but windows dies after the enter key of the login screen
[02:50] <GMWeezel> Telroth: I realize that but I don't know how to make my home folder be located inside of the encrypted partition or any other folder besides /usr/home/name
[02:50] <brucebat> psynaps3, you have to remove setdefault from windows
[02:50] <brucebat> in that file
[02:50] <Telroth> GMWeezel, you copy the files to another partition
[02:50] <GMWeezel> Telroth: I'm using truecrypt.
[02:50] <Telroth> GMWeezel then edit /etc/fstab
[02:51] <Telroth> and mount that partition on /home or /usr/home or wherever your user folders are (usually /home)
[02:51] <brucebat> GMWeezel, replace your homefolder with a link
[02:51] <kihai> I just wished I could use steam and pocket pcs under ubuntu, then ...goodbye, windows
[02:51] <psynaps3> brucebat: let me check the file, but i don't think i have setdefault there. maybe i did add a makeactive or something like that recently
[02:51] <Telroth> kihai, steam runs buggily, but runs.
[02:51] <GMWeezel> Telroth/Brucebat: Is that the only way to change the home folder location (just for future reference)?
[02:51] <Telroth> GMWeezel, no
[02:52] <shifty> steam ? from valve ?
[02:52] <brucebat> but it is easy
[02:52] <Telroth> you can change by mouting a different partition there, or by symlinks
[02:52] <Telroth> shifty, yes ;)
[02:52] <shifty> u play cs?
[02:52] <Telroth> the text doesn't render when i tried it a month ago, but the button outlines and stuff are visible
[02:52] <jlc>  /etc/passwd
[02:52] <Telroth> shifty, have it, but i'm more hl2 and ut2k4
[02:53] <kihai> Telroth: Not with my Ati Mobility 9000... :( Thanks for your help, I'll give it some more tries
[02:53] <shifty> yea, i still nid my windows for programming
[02:53] <Telroth> sorry kihai, it's just not my area of expertise
[02:53] <jlc> if you want to change your /home location change it in /etc/passwd just make sure your you chown -R user:group BLAH before you login
[02:54] <MAT1> hi all
[02:54] <shifty> hi
[02:55] <shifty> ipod-linux is cool
[02:55] <shifty> anyone tried
[02:55] <shifty> ?
[02:55] <jlc> shifty: a year or 2 ago, i forget
[02:56] <shifty> it's like cool
[02:56] <jlc> wasn't very useful at the time, meant to try it again though :)
[02:56] <shifty> i saw some youtube video
[02:56] <MAT1> where i can find package maintainer for Ubuntu Edgy.. because I just want to give advice about adding a good package for official repositroy...
[02:56] <shifty> doom on ipod
[02:56] <shifty> :o
[02:56] <MAT1> sorry for my English :p
[02:56] <shifty> isit that the synaptic?
[02:57] <MAT1> yes
[02:57] <jlc> MAT1: probably bugzilla
[02:57] <MAT1> ehh..
[02:57] <jlc> errr launchpad
[02:57] <brucebat> i'm trying feisty fawn right now. my wireless card with broadcom 4306 chipset does only work half: i can see wireless networks in network-manager, but i can't join them. kern.log has something to say aobut the bcm43xx driver: Jan 28 01:32:15 bruce-laptop kernel: [  184.244000]  bcm43xx: TODO: Incomplete code in bcm43xx_radio_selectchannel() at drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_radio.c:1608 and a whole lot like that and Jan 28 1
[02:57] <brucebat> 4:55:26 bruce-laptop kernel: [ 2465.908000]  bcm43xx: MAC suspend failed
[02:57] <shifty> podZILLA
[02:57] <shifty> Lol
[02:57] <MAT1> xvidcap  - is very good Screen Capture tool http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/
[02:57] <MAT1> !
[02:57] <hjmills> MAT1, is there a current (older) version in the repos? if so check the package details to find the maintainer
[02:57] <MAT1> and it's not in Ubuntu repositories..
[02:58] <Jowi> brucebat, /j #ubuntu+1
[02:58] <brucebat> does that mean i have to wait for the driver to be finished?
[02:58] <kritzstapf> hi, i installed network-manager-gnome and try to start it with nm-applet, but nothing happens
[02:58] <brucebat> Jowi, thanks
[02:58] <hjmills> MAT1, try the masters of the universe
[02:58] <hjmills> !motu | MAT1
[02:58] <ubotu> MAT1: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:58] <juancgt> hey all.. what IRC client do y'all use?
[02:58] <jlc> juancgt: xchat/irssi
[02:59] <juancgt> jlc: thanks!
[03:00] <mrbay> can anyone help me? i've installed xorg-driver-fglxr or whats the exact name, and now i f*cked up my keyboard..
[03:00] <mrbay> i mean, as i'm a hungarian user i cant use my AltGr button now
[03:02] <Junis> hi
[03:02] <MAT1> mrbay did you've made a backup of your old /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:02] <MAT1> hi Junis
[03:02] <mrbay> of course not.. :S
[03:02] <MAT1> ehh. :P
[03:02] <Junis> someone have his /home directory in a individual partition? can you paste me his fstab /home line please?
[03:03] <antibody> hi... I have a core duo 2...should I download nvidia 32bits or 64bits?
[03:03] <MAT1> # /dev/sda9
[03:03] <MAT1> UUID=04d51084-2c24-4871-8d20-2ee6fe203673 /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:03] <Junis> thanks MAT1
[03:03] <MAT1> np ;-)
[03:03] <mlpug> whats the command to upgrade dapper server to dapper desktop? tried "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop". did not work. something specific should be in sources.list?
[03:03] <shifty> i am running on ext2 :o
[03:03] <jlc> antibody: what version of ubuntu did you install
[03:04] <antibody> feisty...
[03:04] <antibody> beta
[03:04] <antibody> beta2
[03:04] <jlc> antibody: x86 or amd64
[03:04] <antibody> oh :/
[03:04] <nano2> hey guys
[03:04] <jlc> ;)
[03:04] <antibody> doesn core duo run on amd64?
[03:04] <jlc> core 2 duo would
[03:04] <antibody> hmm...great
[03:04] <antibody> what is the best?
[03:04] <jlc> not a big fan of how debian/ubuntu does multilib so i just use 32 on mine
[03:04] <nano2> anybody from ph?
[03:04] <antibody> amd64?
[03:05] <jlc> aptitude install nvidia-glx
[03:05] <antibody> hmm ok
[03:05] <Jowi> mlpug, that should work fine. you might want to comment out the CDROM part in sources.list and run an update.
[03:05] <jlc> all you need if its on there already
[03:05] <antibody> I can update right? to 64 bits?
[03:05] <jlc> antibody: nope
[03:05] <jlc> you have to fresh install
[03:05] <antibody> jlc yes..but I wantd the latest drivers from nvidia
[03:06] <jlc> antibody: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_compiz-freedesktop_without_XGL_.2F_AIGLX_utilising_the_latest_Nvidia_BETA_drivers
[03:06] <antibody> ok then
[03:06] <antibody> tnx :d
[03:07] <mlpug> Jowi, CDROM line is already in comment. Something else is messed up. it says: "E: Couldn't find package gnome-desktop"
[03:07] <kritzstapf> hum, for some reason nm-manager isnt working for me (edgy), is anybody using nm-manager?
[03:07] <Jowi> mlpug, ah, it's actually called "ubuntu-desktop"
[03:07] <Jowi> mlpug, I should have spotted that
[03:08] <glyn> hey, stupid question but I don't know the answer...how do I see if my dist-upgrade went correctly from breezy --> dapper?
[03:08] <MAT1> p.s. who did already look "Blood Diamond" (cinema) :) ?
[03:08] <Jowi> glyn, do a dist-upgrade again. it it say that no new packages to upgrade you're set.
[03:09] <mlpug> okay. ubuntu-desktop works. I am quite sure that in the podcast where I got the idea to upgrade they were also talking about "gnome-desktop" not "ubuntu-desktop". anyway, case closed.
[03:09] <glyn> E: Couldn't find package dist-upgrade
[03:09] <glyn> and I also get this when I do sudo apt-get install -f..:
[03:09] <antibody> bah..it's compiled for 2.6.17
[03:09] <glyn> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[03:10] <MAT1> wow ! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts/
[03:10] <Jowi> glyn, you're not typing the command correctly. "dist-upgrade" is not a package.
[03:10] <Jowi> glyn, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:10] <appelza> anyone use the new windows installer?
[03:10] <glyn> oh thanks
[03:10] <glyn> It's telling me..
[03:10] <antibody> going to install manual
[03:10] <glyn> The following packages have been kept back:
[03:10] <glyn>   camera.app gdk-imlib1 gnustep-base-common gnustep-gui-common gnustep-make gnustep-ppd
[03:10] <glyn> do I just install those manually?
[03:11] <jlc> antibody: there is a feisty pool
[03:11] <jlc> err, should have said is there
[03:11] <shifty> god i haven used windows the whole day today
[03:12] <glyn> Jowi:  What should I do?
[03:12] <jlc> antibody: your in feisty right?
[03:12] <jlc> the regular repo has it
[03:13] <appelza> is it possible to install ubuntu without writing the iso to a cd?
[03:13] <glyn> if I have packages held back after a dist-upgrade do I just install them manually?
[03:14] <antibody> jlc: yes
[03:14] <Jowi> glyn, gnustep-base-common is a part of the universe repo. I would say only upgrade those manually if you actually need to. you need to use your own judgement.
[03:14] <morpheus74> How do I find what my ESSID is
[03:14] <glyn> Okay, thanks
[03:14] <pbureau> morpheus74- try iwconfig
[03:14] <antibody> i've checked in synaptic and the latest driver is for 2.6.17
[03:14] <jlc> antibody: I'm using 1.0-9631
[03:15] <jlc> http://pastebin.ca/331034
[03:15] <antibody> jlc: me too
[03:15] <morpheus74> pbureau, It says, ESSID: " "  What does this mean?
[03:16] <pbureau> morpheus74- not configure
[03:16] <jlc> antibody: guess I'm confused then, what do you want installed?
[03:16] <Seabass> hi I'm using Tomboy notes and was wondering how I could switch the language of the spell-checking ;(I think it uses gtkspell)
[03:16] <antibody> the new ones from nvidia.com
[03:16] <antibody> i'll install from original files
[03:16] <zbogdan> hello, i'm using Ubuntu 6.06. i need some help finding an application under GPL or similar licence to convert my MPEG files (mp3, avi, asf) to an open standard like ogg, theorica, without passing it through intermediary formats (wav). Could you help?
[03:16] <jlc> ah, they have 9742 now
[03:17] <kritzstapf> hm, network-manager thinks my wireless-device is a cabled network-device, how to fix this?
[03:17] <name> I'm using dd to make a total backup of the hdd, how can i pack that onthefly?
[03:18] <antibody> 46*
[03:18] <antibody> :D
[03:18] <glyn> farewell people gunna try to see if this Dapper works wish me luck If I'm not back in a few something went seriously wrong
[03:18] <shifty> !warcraft
[03:18] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:18] <antibody> bye
[03:18] <riotkittie> gl glyn
[03:19] <sunshine> hi , I got a problem, when I am root at my system and I want to execude the command make or something, which need root rights , I cant execude it, and it comes, permission denied...any idea why?
[03:19] <riotkittie> zbogdan: sorry best i can suggest is doing a search in synaptic, or apt. im not really familiar with the conversion programs
[03:20] <Jowi> sunshine, when you type "whoami" what does it say?
[03:20] <riotkittie> ogg is a lossy format, right? -
[03:20] <Wooot> man i haven't used linux in ages. Type sudo before the command?
[03:20] <kelsin> zbogdan: and for reference, converting from mp3 to ogg is not ussually recommend, if you can rerip from originals to ogg, that's the better way to go
[03:20] <riotkittie> Wooot: yes
[03:20] <sunshine> It tells me root jowi
[03:20] <Wooot> awesome, i win at the internets
[03:20] <Jowi> sunshine, and what are you trying to execute?
[03:20] <kelsin> zbogdan: if you can help it, since mp3 and ogg are both loggy
[03:20] <riotkittie> winning at the internets <3
[03:21] <riotkittie> yeah, re-rip and encode to ogg
[03:21] <sunshine> I want to install som files
[03:21] <sunshine> *some
[03:21] <riotkittie> converting from one lossy format ... nastiness
[03:21] <jonah1980> hi guys i've got twinview enabled and two monitors working but when i maximise a window it goes over both screens, how can i setup the screens to work individually but still drag between them, like both have their own desktop?
[03:21] <riotkittie> unless youre not a hardcore audiophile
[03:21] <Jowi> sunshine, like what exactly? and how are you installing them?
[03:21] <glyn> whohooo the dapper upgrade went perfectly
[03:22] <shifty> !rar
[03:22] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:22] <riotkittie> glyn: cool
[03:22] <shifty> v
[03:22] <shifty> !info unrar-free
[03:22] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:22] <sunshine> I am installing it in terminal Jowi, I want for example now to install aircrack, but earlier I tried also some commands when I was root, and always comes permission denied..thats weird..
[03:23] <johnficca> hi is it ok it compile a new kernel on a 64 bit system running 32 bit ubuntu ?
[03:23] <Jowi> sunshine, "cat /etc/shadow" also get you the error?
[03:23] <jrib> sunshine: aircrack is in the repositories, no need to compile
[03:23] <wolfwalker> Okay, Ubuntu won't run on my Ipex computer. Most other Linux will though. What OS is best for an end-user aside from Ubuntu?
[03:23] <jlc> does anyone know if Exaile supports podcast?
[03:24] <sunshine> When i execute this I get no error Jowi
[03:24] <sunshine> ah ok, thx
[03:24] <jachin> i want to set up an Linux Server with 6 Windows Workstations
[03:24] <jachin> which distro can u advise me, ubuntu or fedora ?
[03:24] <jrib> !info aircrack | sunshine
[03:24] <ubotu> aircrack: wireless WEP/WPA cracker. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-3 (edgy), package size 136 kB, installed size 372 kB
[03:24] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: did you try installing with 'acpi=off' ?
[03:24] <Jowi> sunshine, so your root account work. you're probably typing something wrong.
[03:24] <wolfwalker> With what? No, I don't even know what that is
[03:24] <rude> hello. i have got a samsung cd burner called "SH-S182M". unfortunately i can't read/burn any blank cd/dvd. /var/log/messages seems to be alright and google couldnt help. How can i fix this problem? Thanks for any help!
[03:25] <johnficca> dose anyone know?
[03:25] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: at the install prompt, hit F6, edit the line that starts with "root=..." - & add 'acpi=off' - hit return & install should start
[03:25] <jrib> johnficca: !kernel | johnficca
[03:25] <jrib> !kernel | johnficca
[03:25] <ubotu> johnficca: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:25] <wolfwalker> brb
[03:26] <glyn> hmm I just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper but it won't see my webcam now..it was working fine on breezy, any suggestions?
[03:26] <johnficca> ok thanks
[03:26] <mick> i'm having trouble with my access rights... i thought i was logged in as root but obviously i can't delete anything
[03:26] <sunshine> ok , it lists now that aircrack isnt installed..strange...yeah your right, maybe I just tipped something wrong in :)
[03:26] <mick> when i try to su it keeps saying password incorrect o_O
[03:26] <kelsin> mick: normally in ubuntu you don't log in as root, you just type "sudo" before the command, not su
[03:26] <jonah1980_> sorry i got disconnected. i've got twinview working on two monitors but when i maximise a window i want it to just stay on screen it's on and not both, how can i set it up so both screens work a bit more seperatley, like 2 desktops that i can drag between?
[03:27] <kelsin> mick: the root account has no password by default (hence your password incorrects)
[03:27] <ikonia> mick have you set th eroot password
[03:27] <peresko> has anyone experience problems with SATA disks under ubuntu edgy?
[03:27] <mick> ah ok
[03:27] <ikonia> peresko: what sort of problems
[03:27] <kelsin> mick: if you need a root shell you can sudo -i
[03:27] <mick> so how would i delete a folder on the desktop with a lock icon next to it
[03:27] <aalhamad> how can i acess my files applications..
[03:27] <ikonia> just tell us your problems - not what anyone else may/may not have
[03:27] <jrib> !root | mick
[03:27] <ubotu> mick: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:27] <zbogdan> kelsin, riotkittie: 10x
[03:28] <aalhamad> eg. to launch firefox from my browser??
[03:28] <peresko> ikonia: after while 5 minutes of copying data to it, it is only mounted read only, and not able to write data to it
[03:28] <peresko> ikonia: it is formatted ext3
[03:28] <zbogdan> kelsin, riotkittie: thanks
[03:28] <ikonia> peresko: probably file system corruption
[03:28] <aalhamad> or lanuch any application from a browser?
[03:28] <glyn> it's telling me "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) never had this problem with Breezy and I just upgraded to Dapper
[03:28] <ikonia> or a chipset problem
[03:28] <glyn> any suggestions?
[03:28] <jrib> glyn: check permissions
[03:28] <glyn> does it have to do with PCMIA?
[03:28] <ikonia> glyn: does the device exist
[03:28] <tom47> what are the downsides to using sudo su??
[03:28] <glyn> yeah it exists
[03:28] <mick> after i've mounted the ntfs secondary hard drive and placed  a desktop shortcut i can't seem to delete it now...
[03:28] <glyn> how do I edit permissions?
[03:28] <aalhamad> is it /usr/shre???
[03:28] <peresko> ikonia: so i format again?
[03:28] <ikonia> the file /dev/video0 exists
[03:28] <mick> maybe i should have said that first
[03:28] <jrib> glyn: ls -l /dev/video0
[03:28] <shifty> !unrar-free
[03:28] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:29] <ikonia> peresko: fsck it
[03:29] <peresko> ikonia: ok, thnx
[03:29] <glyn> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2007-01-28 06:19 /dev/video0
[03:29] <ikonia> glyn: look at the permissions
[03:29] <jrib> glyn: so does the 'groups' command list "video"?
[03:29] <riotkittie> i cannot, for the life of me, manage to unrar from the command line, regardless of how i try to do it :\
[03:30] <jrib> riotkittie: unrar x foo.rar
[03:30] <hotti> howto enable sound in flash with ubuntu amd64 and 32bit firefox?
[03:30] <ikonia> riotkittie: whats the error
[03:30] <ikonia> hotti: complex
[03:30] <glyn> I'm not too great at this, but the permissions look fine is there anything I need to change?
[03:30] <rude> hello. i have got a samsung cd burner called "SH-S182M" (ide). i have got ubuntu edgy eft. unfortunately i can't read/burn any blank cd/dvd. /var/log/messages seems to be alright and google couldnt help. Playing DVDs or CDs is no Problem! Any suggestions to fix this??? Thanks for any help!
[03:30] <jrib> hotti: are you using flash9?
[03:30] <ikonia> glyn: the permissions only allow root or members of the video group to use the device
[03:30] <glyn> and how do I use the groups command?
[03:30] <ikonia> type "groups"
[03:30] <hotti> jrib: yes
[03:30] <aalhamad> rude download plugins if your using Mplayer
[03:30] <glyn> yes it does ikonia
[03:30] <jonah1980_> hello anyone good with twinview dual monitor setups?
[03:30] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| from the root part of the command it looks like this: root=/dev/ram rw quiet splash--
[03:31] <wolfwalker> Where do I stick that other part?
[03:31] <riotkittie> non-issue because i no longer have rar files :P  but it was just "failed"
[03:31] <glyn> jrib yes it does list video
[03:31] <ikonia> jonah1980_: /join #nvidia
[03:31] <brucebat> rude: what apps did you try?
[03:31] <glyn> I'm logged in under root and it's still giving me the message
[03:31] <rude> if i want to mount the burner -> "No medium found"
[03:31] <ikonia> whats is the video device ?
[03:31] <jrib> hotti: it's supposed to work then :/  Does http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ say that version 9 is getting loaded?
[03:31] <mick> when i made a shortcut to my second hard drive to the desktop it appears with a lock icon next to it.. now i can't remove it from desktop.. any suggestions?
[03:31] <glyn> intel easy cam, it saw it fine on Breezy and everything worked
[03:31] <kelsin> jonah1980_: I don't have experience with it, but you should also google xinerama, TwinView (nvidia only) and Xine both work slightly differently so if you're unhappy with behavior check out the other one
[03:32] <rude> but playing cds/dvds is done correctly
[03:32] <Ash-Fox> Can someone help me figure out what todo with this hardware issue? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2070713
[03:32] <rude> i just want to burn some cds :-)
[03:32] <brucebat> rude, which burner are you using? nautilus? Gnomebaker? k3b?
[03:32] <aalhamad> How can i lanuch firefox, thunderbird or any application from a browser?
[03:32] <jrib> mick: how did you make this shortcut?  And what do you want to do:  get rid of the lock?  Or just get rid of the icon?
[03:32] <rude> Gnomebaker
[03:32] <pbureau> mick right mouse click and unmount it
[03:32] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| would it look like this? root=/dev/ram acpi=off rw quiet splash--
[03:32] <kelsin> mick: you can always browse to the Desktop folder in a terminal and then "ls" to see the file and then "sudo rm <file>" (and by file I mean the link)
[03:32] <glyn> how do I essentially enable it permissions for me, the user?
[03:32] <glyn> instead of root
[03:32] <glyn> we can see if that works
[03:32] <tom47> aalhamad sorry i dont quite understand .... firefox is a browser
[03:33] <jrib> glyn: anyone in the "video" group has permissions to the device.  So it doesn't appear to be a permissions problem
[03:33] <aalhamad> tom47: a file browser i meant
[03:33] <Ash-Fox> tom47, he wants to open executables directly with the "open" option in firefox or thunderbird.
[03:33] <glyn> when I type groups as root it doesn't list video
[03:33] <aalhamad> tom47: let say i try to launch evaloution
[03:33] <jrib> glyn: that's ok, root is roto
[03:33] <tom47> aalhamad right click on it
[03:33] <jrib> root*
[03:33] <aalhamad> tom47: let say i try to launch evaloution but from a file browser
[03:33] <rude> brucebat: gnomebaker. i think its not a problem of the application. when i insert a blank cd, the burner does nothing
[03:33] <riotkittie> rotorooter
[03:34] <kelsin> aalhamad: browse to /usr/bin where most of your programs are, and then double click or right click and select the proper option
[03:34] <wolfwalker> lol @ riotkittie
[03:34] <rude> and if i want to mount, it says "No medium found"
[03:34] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: yup
[03:34] <aalhamad> tom47: not running it in a command line
[03:34] <aalhamad> ok
[03:34] <wolfwalker> k, brb
[03:34] <aalhamad> thanks
[03:34] <aalhamad> thanks Kelsin
[03:34] <kelsin> aalhamad: it's a big folder though, if you're not using command line ussually using the gnome or kde menu is more efficient
[03:34] <tom47> aalhamad if you have a file showing in nautilus (assuming you are using gnome) then right click and chose the appropriate option
[03:35] <frogzoo> rude: what's the command?
[03:35] <glyn> jrib: what do you think could be wrong?
[03:35] <aalhamad> Kelsin thanks that what i just needed
[03:35] <rude> frogzoo: root@rude-desktop:/dev# mount /dev/hdc /mnt/brenner
[03:35] <ikonia> glyn: device not supported ?
[03:35] <frogzoo> rude: should be partn number there, ie /dev/hdc1 or /dev/hdc2..
[03:35] <glyn> it was working fine on Breezy
[03:36] <ikonia> your not using breezy
[03:36] <brucebat> rude, try:  cdrecord -checkdrive
[03:36] <jrib> glyn: I've never used a webcam on linux so no idea really.  I'd search bugs.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org.  Maybe read the wiki page on webcams to see if there are any notes for dapper
[03:36] <glyn> !webcam
[03:36] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:36] <brucebat> rude, and look what it says
[03:36] <mwe> frogzoo: for a cd drive? I think not
[03:36] <moneyman> exit
[03:37] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| No soap.
[03:37] <frogzoo> rude: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/brenner
[03:37] <erUSUL> !info phpmyadmin dapper
[03:37] <wolfwalker> Thanks though
[03:37] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[03:37] <erUSUL> !info phpmyadmin hoary
[03:37] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[03:37] <wolfwalker> Can anyone recommend a second-best Linux distro for an end-user?
[03:37] <rude> brucebat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3196/
[03:37] <mwe> frogzoo: that shouldn't be nessecary either
[03:37] <wolfwalker> I know Red Hat works
[03:37] <mick> thanks guys i got rid of the icon
[03:37] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: what doesn't work?
[03:38] <wolfwalker> Ubuntu
[03:38] <Daverocks> wolfwalker: for daily desktop use?
[03:38] <rude> frogzoo: mount: No medium found
[03:38] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: what specifically?
[03:38] <kelsin> wolfwalker: I would try fedora or Suse, but it's odd to hear that something doesn't work
[03:38] <wolfwalker> Yes, for an end user for daily desktop use
[03:38] <shifty> !rar
[03:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:38] <mwe> wolfwalker: how doesn't it work?
[03:38] <Daverocks> wolfwalker: i'd say ubuntu or opensuse
[03:38] <wolfwalker> |frogzoo:| When I tell it to load from the Ubuntu cd, it says loading the Linux kernel
[03:38] <LjL> i'd say #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <ctrl> I got two soundcards and now also pluged in a webcam. unfortunately, the webcam is now card 0 and /dev/dsp so it disturbed my config. Is there a way to tell ubuntu which soundcard had which number? is this alsa related?
[03:38] <wolfwalker> Then it locks down
[03:38] <frogzoo> rude: there's no cd in the drive
[03:39] <mwe> wolfwalker: try the alternate cd maybe
[03:39] <brucebat> rude, well it really looks like its broken. sorry i can't help you further
[03:39] <LjL> wolfwalker: verified the CD?
[03:39] <mwe> !alternate | wolfwalker
[03:39] <ubotu> wolfwalker: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:39] <rude> frogzoo: of course there is one
[03:39] <wolfwalker> I did try the alternate cd, that's how I screwed up the load for the Windows that was already on the computer
[03:39] <mwe> wolfwalker: many people have problems with the live cd
[03:39] <wolfwalker> And when I installed from the alternate cd and booted from the installed Ubuntu, it locked up too
[03:39] <rude> brucebat: can this be a driver problem? i dont find any Samsung drivers for linux in the internet
[03:39] <mwe> wolfwalker: you can easily fix such mistakes
[03:40] <LjL> wolfwalker: tried booting with noapic or acpi=off then?
[03:40] <wolfwalker> Yup
[03:40] <wolfwalker> Same thing
[03:40] <papkin> does anyone have the idea what can be incorrect with my ubuntu that after few minutes after I start it my mouse stops moving?
[03:40] <wolfwalker> |mwe:| How?
[03:40] <mwe> !grub | wolfwalker
[03:40] <ubotu> wolfwalker: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:40] <mwe> wolfwalker: you need to point grub to the right windows partition
[03:41] <wolfwalker> No, I had Windows. I dual-booted Ubuntu from the alternate cd. Then I erased the Ubuntu partition when it too failed to work.
[03:41] <LjL> wolfwalker: what version of ubuntu have you tried? i'd try the other. a different kernel version might help, and we currently have two Ubuntu releases that are supported (three actually, but nevermind breezy)
[03:41] <wolfwalker> Then........ Windows would no longer talk to me. I think I ticked it off
[03:41] <brucebat> rude, well normally optical drives just work. is your computer very new?
[03:41] <LjL> wolfwalker, if you erased the Ubuntu partition, then GRUB doesn't quite know how to start anymore
[03:41] <rude> brucebat: 1 month
[03:42] <appelza> is it possible to install ubuntu without writing the iso to a cd?
[03:42] <frogzoo> rude: when I try to mount with no cd in the drive, I get: "mount: No medium found
[03:42] <brucebat> rude, then you should perhaps try to use feisty fawn, although it's unstable
[03:42] <mwe> wolfwalker: windows is still present
[03:42] <erUSUL> !install > appelza
[03:42] <frogzoo> appelza: not worth the effort
[03:42] <mwe> wolfwalker: just boot the windows xp cd and run fixmbr
[03:42] <wolfwalker> Well I gotta go. Will reinstalling Ubuntu from the alternate cd fix grub and allow me to load Windows?
[03:42] <rude> brucebat: are there more burners supported?
[03:42] <mwe> wolfwalker: from the recovery console
[03:42] <brucebat> rude, i am not sure but it is likely
[03:42] <alucard> hello, please, is there a  repository i could get a stabler version of beryl from for ubuntu 6.10 ?
[03:43] <rude> frogzoo: trust me, ive got a blank cd in it. it seems like, the burner cant handle it
[03:43] <wolfwalker> This cheap computer didn't even come with a cd. It's a brand nobody ever heard of, and it came with Windows XP Home already loaded.
[03:43] <LjL> wolfwalker: if i've understood the problem, i think yes
[03:43] <rude> its loading and loading and loading
[03:43] <brucebat> rude, new hardware sometimes takes a while to be fully supported
[03:43] <wolfwalker> Gotta go y'all, thanks
[03:43] <frogzoo> rude: you can't mount a blank cd, as there's no file system on it - try an already burned one & it will work
[03:43] <bartbes> Libc6 crashes, when I compile program (using strcat and gethostbyname (more)) the program crashes on execution
[03:43] <wolfwalker> But first, can anyone suggest a good flavor of Linux besides Ubuntu?
[03:43] <rude> frogzoo: i know. the main thing is, that i cant burn the blank cd :)
[03:43] <frogzoo> wolfwalker: fedora or suse
[03:43] <wolfwalker> My primary interest is audio work, editing, composing
[03:43] <rude> frogzoo: reading is no problem
[03:43] <LjL> bartbes: pastebin the program source
[03:44] <LjL> Ubotu, tell bartbes about paste | bartbes, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:44] <riotkittie> wolfwalker: "good" is such a relevant term
[03:44] <riotkittie> what are you looking for, specificalyl.
[03:44] <frogzoo> rude: no need to mount a blank cd to burn it
[03:44] <wolfwalker> |riotkittie:| Good for an end user.
[03:44] <happywater> my mplayer report an error :can't initialize the selected output device
[03:44] <Daverocks> wolfwalker: i really like opensuse
[03:44] <wolfwalker> My primary interest is audio work, editing, composing
[03:44] <mwe> wolfwalker: I don't understand why you don't fix your problem with ubuntu instead
[03:44] <riotkittie> i like slackware. but. heh :D
[03:45] <tom47> wolfwalker for something very interesting now pclinuxos is neat
[03:45] <rude> frogzoo: but in ubuntu there is a message coming, if a new blank cd is inserted
[03:45] <bartbes> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3198/
[03:45] <Daverocks> wolfwalker: alls i know about audio on suse is that audacity and rosegarden both work totally fine on my suse.
[03:45] <LjL> wolfwalker, i don't have a suggestion, but if that's your primary interest, then i think you should look for a distribution that comes with a kernel optimized for that. realtime patches, and preemption, and a fast timer are all needed for many music editing needs
[03:45] <rude> frogzoo: and this message doesnt appear :-(
[03:45] <tom47> wolfwalker there is a distro specifically aimed at your interests .... check out distrowatch
[03:45] <wolfwalker> It won't run Ubuntu from the live cd.  Thanks for the suggestions.
[03:46] <brucebat> wolfwalker, get a mac for serious audio stuff
[03:46] <Scythe> Hmmm... I'd think nuking grub was his fault.
[03:46] <rude> frogzoo: ive got gnomebaker
[03:47] <rammbock1235> i want to create a udev rule which will execute a script if i plug in my external drive. now, the script should start the program xfce4-terminal. what must the script look like? :\
[03:47] <bartbes> LjL, the source is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3198/
[03:47] <variant> rammbock1235: thats a UDEV rule
[03:48] <frogzoo> rude: check sys -> prefs -> removable drives -> Storage ... burn cd when blank inserted...
[03:48] <variant> rammbock1235: check this very detailed link: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Special:Search?search=udev+rules&go=Go
[03:48] <Grzesiek> a
[03:48] <mwe> rammbock1235: udev can execute scripts?
[03:48] <variant> rammbock1235: sorry, wrong link: http://gentoo-wiki.com/UDEV#Writing_custom_udev_rules
[03:48] <rammbock1235> variant: the rule works fine, i just dont know how to start the program on X using a script
[03:49] <rammbock1235> mwe: yes, they can ;)
[03:49] <variant> mwe: yes, thats what it does.. you could for example have an email sent every time somone plugs in a specific usb key or something
[03:49] <furryballs> How can dpkg be used to display packages that contain a certain file? Like finding a header file that comes with a package?
[03:49] <shifty> !sudo
[03:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <rude> frogzoo: the option is checked
[03:49] <frogzoo> furryballs: dpkg -S file_name
[03:49] <seravitae> hm
[03:49] <furryballs> k thnx
[03:49] <frogzoo> rude: specify gnomebaker?
[03:50] <mwe> variant: I thought hal did that. that's how I did it. I've written several udev rules but never saw one the executed a script. well I guess you learn something everyday
[03:50] <jrib> furryballs: that only works if the package is installed.  Otherwise use, apt-file or packages.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <rude> frogzoo: command for audio cds: serpentine - command for data cds: nautilus --no-desktop burn:
[03:50] <frogzoo> rude: well do you think you'd like to change that to gnomebaker?
[03:50] <rammbock1235> if i call RUN+="/home/1234/script" and the script is like export DISPLAY=":0"; xfce4-terminal it doesn't work
[03:50] <glyn> how do I move a file on my desktop to /usr/src?
[03:51] <rude> frogzoo: what is the command? just gnomebaker? i dont think, that this will solve the problem :-/
[03:51] <glyn> nevermind easier than I thought
[03:51] <jrib> rammbock1235: did you do something like 'touch /home/user/thescriptruns' to make sure the script is getting called?
[03:51] <glyn> wait it's not
[03:51] <brucebat> glyn, sudo mv ~/Desktop/file /usr/src
[03:52] <rude> frogzoo: when i open gnomebaker -> burn. i cant select a burn device ... somethin is really wrong in here...
[03:52] <rammbock1235> jrib nope, i'm a bloody beginner ;) but i tried a different script like cp some files and that one did work
[03:52] <alucard> hello, please, is there a  repository i could get a stabler version of beryl from for ubuntu 6.10 ?
[03:52] <jrib> rammbock1235: do you know how the script gets executed?  is it by root?
[03:52] <brucebat> alucard, beryl is unstable
[03:52] <glyn> thanks that worked
[03:53] <jrib> rammbock1235: try 'xhost +local:' as your user and then plug in your stick again
[03:53] <brucebat> alucard, try to install from source or svn from the beryl site
[03:53] <frogzoo> rude: ls -lL /dev/cdrom
[03:53] <andre> hey guys
[03:53] <brucebat> alucard, but be warned this may break you system
[03:53] <rammbock1235> jrib: thx, im going to try that one :)
[03:53] <alucard> brucebat, how is installing from svn done ?
[03:53] <rude> frogzoo: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-01-28 14:55 /dev/cdrom
[03:54] <frogzoo> rude: do you belong to 'cdrom' group?
[03:54] <glyn> how do I get read/write access to my kernel source tree?
[03:54] <brucebat> alucard, research it if you don't know how to. if that's not for you, you shouldn't installfrom svn
[03:54] <andre> would anyone be able to help me out with regards to my nvidia dual monitor setup?  my secondary monitor will drop to a resolution of 640x480 sometimes?  I think it's because Ubuntu can't recognise my secondary monitor...
[03:54] <LjL> bartbes, doesn't crash for me
[03:55] <roxlu> hi all
[03:55] <LjL> bartbes: gethostbyname crashes, yes, *if* you don't give an address on the command line
[03:55] <Scythe> alright, anyone up to the task of figuring out why I can't seem to get ubuntu to do anything beyond recognize the existance of this laptop's wireless card in device manager?
[03:55] <glyn> I'm trying to build a driver for my kernel
[03:55] <glyn> how do I get read/write access to the kernel source tree?
[03:55] <frogzoo> glyn: sudo chown -R glyn:glyn /usr/src/blah_blah
[03:55] <bartbes> LjL, is something missing?
[03:55] <roxlu> I've got a external usb hd; when I switch it on, it gets mounted as read-only. Is there a way to mount it writable?
[03:55] <bartbes> LjL, strcat (now commented out) crashed as weel
[03:55] <bartbes> *well
[03:55] <brucebat> alucard, back up important stuff, download http://www.beryl-project.org/releases.php get the tar install it, pray
[03:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> I want to start a remote XDMCP session from this computer, using gdmflexiserver --xnest, could anyone here please help!
[03:56] <papkin> can anyone help me with mouse problem? it's working just for about 2 minutes after starting the system (ubuntu 6.10)
[03:56] <glyn> okay I just logged in as root how do I get back to my user?
[03:56] <Joffrey> hello can anyone give me advice about SSH tunnels with ltsp and ubuntu
[03:56] <LjL> bartbes, i haven't quite looked at what exactly the program does - and perhaps i don't want to. but if i give it the address of an existing IRC server on the command line, it doesn't crash - just sits there. haven't checked if it actually connects etc
[03:56] <andre> glyn: su - user
[03:56] <glyn> thanks
[03:56] <bartbes> LjL, it doesn't i wasnt finished
[03:57] <andre> would anyone be able to help me out with regards to my nvidia dual monitor setup?  my secondary monitor will drop to a resolution of 640x480 sometimes?  I think it's because Ubuntu can't recognise my secondary monitor...
[03:57] <variant> andre: thats not right, what happens if he types exit? he becomes root again
[03:57] <XplOzIon> Hi
[03:57] <alecjw> hi. is there anywhere where i can get ffmpeg with all of the aac, ipod video etc extnetions?
[03:57] <glyn> frogzoo:I did that command udo chown -R glyn:glyn /usr/src/spca5xx-20060501
[03:57] <variant> glyn: to become the user again type "exit" or press ctrl d
[03:57] <Scythe> no dice?
[03:57] <glyn> and it's still telling me that I need read/write access to my kernel source tree
[03:57] <andre> variant: I see,  I'm a bit of a newb, I figured I new the answer :(
[03:57] <variant> andre: sorry to dissapoint you :)
[03:58] <XplOzIon> i am having problems installing Ubuntu Edgy, the error is because my video is not compatible. Even Safe Mode doesnt work. Anyone has another way to install it??
[03:58] <mwe> glyn: you mean sudo, not udo ;)
[03:58] <bartbes> LjL, but the problem with gethostbyname, was a mistake, but the strcat is still failing
[03:58] <andre> variant: no worries
[03:58] <brucebat> alucard, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[03:58] <glyn> yeah I actually typed sudo just didn't paste it all
[03:58] <XplOzIon> mp3: Stone Sour - Through Glass -44khz/144kbps- 04:42
[03:58] <Scythe> no one familiar with the hassles of getting wifi up and running?
[03:58] <kritzstapf> network-manager says that "Unknown USB Vendor Specific Interface" is a cabled network, but in fact its wireless, belkin usb-device, how to make it recognize it as wireless?
[03:58] <variant> glyn: remember that when your working as root, ctrl d or "exit" will make you back to the user.. if you su - user instead you can still be root by typing exit.. this is a security issue if you do it
[03:58] <jrib> !wifi | Scythe
[03:58] <ubotu> Scythe: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:59] <LjL> bartbes: dunno, not for me... apparently
[03:59] <GMWeezel> How can I mount a TrueCrypt partition at boot up without passing the password via command line? Sorry if I shouldn't post this here.
[03:59] <pbureau> kritzstapf-  type lsusb does it reconize the card ?
[03:59] <glyn> ah okay
[03:59] <mwe> !wifi | kritzstapf
[03:59] <ubotu> kritzstapf: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:59] <bartbes> LjL, in the source I gave, it's commented out. line 29
[03:59] <glyn> how come it's telling me I don't have read/write access to the kernel source tree when I just used chown?
[03:59] <GMWeezel> In other words, I need to run a program at boot and able to enter information at the terminal.
[03:59] <ikonia> glyn: do you have the kernel source downloaded ?
[03:59] <XplOzIon> i am having problems installing Ubuntu Edgy, the error is because my video is not compatible. Even Safe Mode doesnt work. Anyone has another way to install it??
[03:59] <kritzstapf> pbureau, i can use the device manually, so it works..
[03:59] <glyn> I don't know..how do I tell?
[04:00] <ikonia> glyn: how can you not know ?
[04:00] <ikonia> when you've just asked how to chown it
[04:00] <glyn> I'm new lol
[04:00] <ikonia> glyn: what are you trying to do
[04:00] <glyn> compiling a spca5xx source code
[04:00] <glyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx#head-7920e06984703f735918572ba8c0352d5a447b1d
[04:00] <ikonia> why
[04:00] <glyn> to get drivers for my cam up to date with Dapper
[04:00] <shifty> gdnite
[04:00] <mwe> glyn: you should probably use sudo -i to get a root prompt. you should chown stuff in /usr, usually
[04:01] <ikonia> glyn: I thought you where using edgy
[04:01] <pbureau> kritzstapf- have you tried getting gnome networkmanager instead of the stock ubuntu one ?
[04:01] <shifty> nite guys going to bed :)
[04:01] <mwe> glyn: should not chown *
[04:01] <ikonia> mwe: no no no
[04:01] <mwe> ikonia: yes yes yes
[04:01] <glyn> Ikonia:No, Dapper
[04:01] <ikonia> no now chown anything in /usr
[04:01] <ikonia> do not chown anything in /usr
[04:01] <glyn> whoops
[04:01] <glyn> lol
[04:01] <kritzstapf> pbureau, thats the one im talking about, the default one recognizes a wireless adaptor, but it doesnt support WPA
[04:01] <mwe> ikonia: that's what I'm saying
[04:01] <andre> can anyone tell me why everyonce in a while, after booting up Ubuntu/Nvidia binaries won't recognize my secondary monitor or its ability to provide a res higher than 640x480?
[04:01] <ikonia> ahhh yes, just saw your correction
[04:02] <mwe> ikonia: heh
[04:02] <variant> GMWeezel: that would really make the fact that you encrypted the drive utterly pointless..
[04:02] <LjL> bartbes: got it, "man strcat", the first argument is a *destination* string, so it must not be a const value.. instead, you're giving it the return val of another strcat
[04:02] <GMWeezel> variant: How? I would have to enter the password at boot time
[04:02] <brucebat> bye
[04:02] <mwe> glyn: did you see that? don't chown stuff under /usr. use sudo -i to get a root prompt if you get access denied in /usr/src
[04:02] <GMWeezel> variant: And it doesn't make it pointless because there is only one account on my machine but I can access my files from windows; I don't like that.
[04:02] <variant> GMWeezel: I thought you were sugesting that you could automate the password entry
[04:03] <bartbes> LjL, strcat returns the value of str1
[04:03] <GMWeezel> /variant: na ah; I need terminal acesss so I can enter it.
[04:03] <glyn> Okay mwe
[04:03] <variant> GMWeezel: so what do you mean exactly?
[04:03] <mwe> glyn: please chown it back to root:src or whatever it was
[04:03] <glyn> how do I do that?
[04:04] <LjL> bartbes: not sure what you mean. strcat takes two arguments (call them str1 and str2 if you want, but they're called dest and src in the manpage), and appends str2 *to* str1, and *also* returns a pointer to str1 for convenience
[04:04] <ikonia> glyn: you should not be messing with htis
[04:04] <mwe> glyn: sudo chown -R root.src /usr/src
[04:04] <ikonia> this
[04:04] <LjL> bartbes: so you still need str1 to be writable anyway
[04:04] <ikonia> if you can't "chown" something
[04:04] <glyn> but it's so fun :P
[04:05] <glyn> I just want to get the cam working like it did in Breezy
[04:05] <GMWeezel> variant: I want to create an encrypted partition using TrueCrypt so I can make it my home folder so my files will be encrypted. In order to use TrueCrypt though, you have to be logged in. I want to be able to run TrueCrypt when my computer starts or when I log in so I can decrypt my home folder / the encrypted partition.
[04:05] <ikonia> no, because you'll come crying when nothing works
[04:05] <glyn> lol
[04:05] <ikonia> glyn: have you checked if the drivers are in the breezy repos ?
[04:05] <mwe> glyn: careful with the command
[04:05] <GMWeezel> variant: Kinda like this: BOOT UP ---> LOG IN ---> ENTER PASSWORD ---> HOME FOLDER DECRYPTED
[04:05] <Someone> i'm new to ubuntu and i have a really simple question, why won't icon themes change after i have installed them?
[04:05] <pbureau> kritzstapf- okay I know what you mean now, I have the same situation with my WPA connection for some reason I thing it is starting to look like a bug to me (unless gnome-manager needs a config of itself)
[04:05] <ikonia> GMWeezel: why do you need that ?
[04:05] <ikonia> you can't login without a home dir
[04:05] <mwe> glyn: making typos with chown can hose the system
[04:05] <ikonia> and logging in verifies the user
[04:05] <LjL> bartbes: i'd really change that to  OWNER=sprintf("~%s@%s", OWNERNICK, OWNERHOST);   (the latter variable should be defined, or use the hardcoded value you're already using if you prefer)
[04:06] <GMWeezel> ikonia: So my home folder will be encrypted.
[04:06] <ikonia> GMWeezel: why ?
[04:06] <glyn> I'm not sure Ikonia..I don't think I lost the Breezy drivers, they just don't seem to be current with Dapper
[04:06] <GMWeezel> ikonia: security
[04:06] <ikonia> glyn: so are there current ones
[04:06] <LjL> bartbes: it's really just a C syntax issue anyway, ubuntu's libc is fine
[04:06] <edgarin> Hi people, Howto I can install Qt in ubuntu?
[04:06] <ikonia> GMWeezel: just use solid permissions
[04:06] <edgarin> howto is called the package?
[04:06] <tucoz> hi, is it possible to filter in synaptic for instance to only show what is in backports?
[04:06] <GMWeezel> ikonia: any one with a boot disk can access your files; if you have windows dual booted, you can just read the linux files right of the parition.
[04:06] <sunshine> what ecactly must I do , that ubuntu recognize my w lan stick?
[04:07] <bartbes> LjL, changed it, adding a string. but still crashes
[04:07] <ikonia> GMWeezel: then choose another location other than home to store your data like /secure
[04:07] <kritzstapf> pbureau, so using a fully configured /etc/network/interfaces with wpa_supplicant works, but nm-manager fails while getting an IP-address because it thinks its a cable-connection :/
[04:07] <bartbes> LjL, ill paste the edited bit in the pastebin
[04:07] <frogzoo> Someone: sys -> prefs -> theme -> theme details -> icon     then save as a new theme
[04:07] <CanadianMan__> how do i get dvi -> component working, i get no picture on my tv
[04:07] <tucoz> edgarin, Qt as in quicktime?
[04:07] <glyn> yea there is Ikonia..I found them on mxhaard and this link tells about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx#head-7920e06984703f735918572ba8c0352d5a447b1d
[04:07] <pbureau> kritzstapf- looks that way on my end as well..
[04:07] <edgarin> nop, Qt is a window engine
[04:07] <glyn> but it also tells me to compile the spca5xx source code and that's where I get confused
[04:07] <edgarin> Qt is similar a GTK
[04:07] <glyn> though it could have been because I didn't have all the required packages, so I'll try again
[04:07] <tucoz> edgarin, just use synaptic or apt-get
[04:08] <GMWeezel> ikonia: I want ALL of my personal files encrypted (All the one in my home folder)
[04:08] <kritzstapf> pbureau, have you tried to compile a newer version of NetworkManager?
[04:08] <edgarin> yes, but howto is called the package of qt?
[04:08] <ikonia> GMWeezel: chose another location and just use /home for .gnome files
[04:08] <pbureau> kritzstapf- nope ... to lazy....
[04:08] <ikonia> encypting /home is too much effort
[04:08] <bartbes> LjL, on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3199/
[04:08] <kritzstapf> pbureau, guess what.. :P
[04:08] <sunshine> does anyone know a answer, how I can do it, that  ubuntu recognize my w-lan stick?
[04:08] <pecisk> have anyone expierenced kernel panic with recent Edgy kernels and Edgy LiveCD
[04:08] <GMWeezel> ikonia: Then my desktop won't display correctly and almost all programs run off of the home folder by default
[04:08] <pbureau> kritzstapf- it works ?
[04:09] <GMWeezel> ikonia: it would be a lot less hassle to encrypt the one folder than change all of my program access paths
[04:09] <pbureau> kritzstapf- whats version ?
[04:09] <tucoz> edgarin, just search synaptic for qt3 or qt4
[04:09] <ikonia> GMWeezel: not really as without /home being readable at login you can't login properly
[04:09] <kritzstapf> pbureau, no, i'm too lazy too :D
[04:09] <ikonia> GMWeezel: which is why I said keep things like your desktop/.gnome settings in /home but move secure data somewhere else
[04:09] <pbureau> kritzstapf-  lol....
[04:09] <XplOzIon> i am having problems installing Ubuntu Edgy, the error is because my video is not compatible. Even Safe Mode doesnt work. Anyone has another way to install it?? Anyone?
[04:09] <glyn> I mean I don't know all the basic commands and stuff I Just kinda learn as I go on
[04:09] <ikonia> glyn: use ubuntu 6.x
[04:09] <GMWeezel> ikonia: I know that; which is why I am trying to figure out how to decrypt my home folder at BOOT TIME not LOG IN
[04:10] <glyn> I'm on Dapper right now
[04:10] <ikonia> GMWeezel: I don't need the caps - and you can't do that
[04:10] <pbureau> kritzstapf- I look at it this way... it works, no big deal, and they will release a newer version eventually that I will upgrade to
[04:10] <ikonia> glyn: so why are you doing the instructions for ubuntu 5
[04:10] <edgarin> ok
[04:10] <glyn> because the section of Dapper lies
[04:10] <glyn> lol
[04:10] <variant> GMWeezel: you can do that on windows, there are instructions ont he truecrypt faq.. but it doesn't mention doing it on linux
[04:10] <ikonia> glyn: no it doesn't
[04:10] <LjL> bartbes, no wonder it still crashes, you're creating a pointer and not allocating any memory for it... what about just using sprintf anyway? it's *made* for that
[04:10] <GMWeezel> ikonia: If I wanted to do it on Windows, I wouldn't be in a Linux forum.
[04:11] <LjL> bartbes: we're totally offtopic anyway, come join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:11] <glyn> well, when I try to get my cam working it just says it could not detect anything on dev/video0
[04:11] <GMWeezel> ikonia: chat*
[04:11] <ikonia> GMWeezel: I didn't mention anything about windows?
[04:11] <andriijas> how do i configure the dns servers that the system uses? (i wish to  not setup my own dns server)
[04:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> how do i capture my desktop into a movie?
[04:11] <kritzstapf> pbureau, yes, but editing the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf everytime youre switching the network isnt very comfortabel
[04:11] <dat> this is probably a dumb question, but i need some quick svn help.  i'm trying to import a test file into a new svn repository (on google code) and i can't get 'svn import' to prompt me for a password.  so i just get '401 Authorization Required' failures.  i'm not sure if this is ubuntu-specific or not.  any ideas?
[04:11] <GMWeezel> ikonia: oh sorry; that was variant
[04:11] <variant> ikonia: I did, I can't beleive I read the entire faq for this guy..
[04:11] <ikonia> GMWeezel: I said you can't do that - eg: encypt home then unencypt it
[04:11] <ikonia> you can envypt a sub folder of /home/$user
[04:11] <mewt> ALSA WORKS!!! DMIX!
[04:11] <ikonia> but envpting /home/$user will not allow a good login
[04:12] <ikonia> encypt I mean
[04:12] <variant> ikonia: unless he decrypts it at boot time, which some encryption schemes support (but apparantly not the one he has choosen)
[04:12] <GMWeezel> ikonia: is it possible to change the environment variable for the home folder so that Ubuntu see's the correct home folder but the others see the location I want
[04:12] <tucoz> dat, i am not sure but don't you simply svn add <file> and svn commit?
[04:13] <NET||abuse> hi guys,, having a real nightmare with nm-applet here,, won't pickup any wireless info
[04:13] <GMWeezel> variant: wait; where did I miss the boot time encryption thing? I didn't see it in the FAQ.
[04:13] <ikonia> GMWeezel: not sure I follow
[04:13] <ikonia> what other users ?
[04:13] <NET||abuse> wifiradar seems to get me connected ok,, but nm-applet would be a whole lot nicer
[04:13] <variant> GMWeezel: it only mentions windows as i said.. and the instructions do not cross over to ubuntu easily
[04:14] <glyn> drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: USB SPCA5XX camera f ound. Type Intel Easy PC Camera CS110 (SPCA508+PB100)
[04:14] <GMWeezel> ikonia: e.g. The log in managers sees my folder has /home/username but the other programs see it as /home/username/encryptedfolder
[04:14] <dat> tucoz: then i get 'svn: '.' is not a working copy'
[04:14] <variant> GMWeezel: if you want to hide your pr0n then use per file encryption
[04:14] <pbureau> kritzstapf- yes I hear you on the wp_supplicant config file.. but since I only use this laptop on this network...:)
[04:14] <_bman] > omg
[04:14] <_bman] > 977 people..
[04:14] <GMWeezel> variant: I don't have "pr0n"
[04:14] <ikonia> GMWeezel: depends on your applications, if they use the $HOME env variable - just set it
[04:14] <variant> sure sure
[04:14] <ikonia> if they don't and the paths are hard wired - your screwed
[04:14] <glyn> The spca5xx sees it yet when I use camorama or something like that it still says could not connect to video device (/dev/video0).
[04:14] <kritzstapf> pbureau, :)
[04:14] <GMWeezel> variant: don't be a jerk please.
[04:15] <ikonia> which if they are compiled programs will have hardwired
[04:15] <glyn> lol this channel is too funny sometimes
[04:15] <variant> GMWeezel: what are you trying to hide exactly? you don't care that your home config files are not encrypted? just your personal files?
[04:15] <ikonia> glyn: your probably still trying to use the ubntu 5 module
[04:15] <andre> Hello again everyone
[04:15] <ikonia> glyn: check if its loaded
[04:15] <GMWeezel> variant: correct; e.g. gaim logs firefox profiles etc
[04:15] <ikonia> GMWeezel: they are stored in subfolders
[04:15] <variant> GMWeezel: in that case you could probably use a symlink
[04:15] <amorphous_> hello y'all...
[04:15] <ikonia> GMWeezel: encypt the sub folders
[04:16] <alexrocha> hola
[04:16] <NET||abuse> hmm, what can i do here?? anyone have similar issues with nm-applet.. i've run from gnome-terminal "nm-applet" and i don't see any messages coming up.. so not sure how to debug this problem
[04:16] <glyn> how do I check that?  should I be using gspcav instead of spca5xx?
[04:16] <ikonia> leave /home/$user clearn but enrypt /home/$user/.gaim .firefox etc etc
[04:16] <glyn> it says to use gspcav for kernel up from 2.6.11 does dapper qualify?
[04:16] <ikonia> glyn: I can't be bothered - just do a clean install of 6.0.6 and it will be fine
[04:16] <GMWeezel> ikonia: that would be a lot of virtual paritions though if I encrypted each sub folder since the are generally found in /home/user/.programname
[04:16] <variant> GMWeezel: or yeah, just encrypt a subfolder such as "pr0.." i mean "personal_files"
[04:16] <tucoz> dat, i would recommend the svnbook http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
[04:16] <edgarin> the qt-base not exist in my repository :S
[04:17] <glyn> I already did a clean install and it hasn't worked..
[04:17] <ikonia> GMWeezel: your requirment is a bit tough to be honest
[04:17] <alucard> brucebat, thanks!
[04:17] <ikonia> what programs are you using to open the webcam
[04:17] <glyn> camorama
[04:17] <variant> GMWeezel: I don't think your clear on exactly what you want (your not explaining it very clearly at least)
[04:17] <chris_shafto> Is there anyway to delete system logs?
[04:17] <amorphous_> how can i locate my trash folder (or rather empty it) - most of the trashed files (from thunar) are from an external usb drive. the trash applet says it's empty, but I still have no space on my drive (about 10G deleted).
[04:18] <variant> chris_shafto: sudo rm /var/log/logname
[04:18] <_bman] > um
[04:18] <_bman] > yall
[04:18] <_bman] > anyone here?
[04:18] <ikonia> what
[04:18] <GMWeezel> variant: boot time ---> enter password ---> personal files decrypted ---> log in
[04:18] <_bman] > Is this Ubuntu anything like windows?
[04:18] <variant> _bman] : about a 1000 users
[04:18] <ikonia> glyn: what cemera is it again
[04:18] <ikonia> _bman] : no
[04:18] <dat> tucoz: yea, i'm looking in there now.  i can't find any information about not prompting for a password though.
[04:18] <glyn> intel easy cam
[04:18] <CanadianMan__> GMWeezel, so you want your personal stuff encrypted when you log off, then when you log on, have it unencrypted?
[04:18] <LjL> _bman] : totally depends what you think windows is like
[04:18] <GMWeezel> canadianman__: yea
[04:18] <variant> GMWeezel: ok, with the encryption scheme you chose, that does not seem very possible. try using a different encryption program..
[04:19] <tucoz> dat, maybe this? http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.serverconfig.netmodel.credcache
[04:19] <chris_shafto> can i delete all the logs in the log folder?
[04:19] <chris_shafto> any like real neccessary ones?
[04:19] <ikonia> chris_shafto: what ?
[04:19] <variant> GMWeezel: for example, SUSE used to have (no idea if it still does) the option to encrypt the entire disk and enter the password at boot time to mount it
[04:19] <PriceChild> chris_shafto, Probably best you keep them incase you run into problems. They're not exactly that big
[04:19] <GMWeezel> I'm using truecrypt because there is a portable windows version and a linux version; I can access my files from either OS
[04:20] <variant> GMWeezel: or, seeing as it is very specific information your looking for - ask on the truecrypt mailing lists/forums/irc/whatever
[04:20] <ikonia> GMWeezel: your best work around is to move all your files into a dir in your homedir and create simlinks eg: /home/user/.gaim ---> /home/user/secure/.gaim
[04:20] <ikonia> then encypt /home/user/secure
[04:20] <glyn> ikonia: it is an intel easy cam that worked fine with camorama on Breezy
[04:21] <walrus> i'm doing a php webservice for my thesis, i use Verdana font family as default, but the equivalent on Ubuntu has a lack on non-ascii characters ... what can i do about it ???
[04:21] <GMWeezel> ikonia: gah... no easy way to do this apparently. hmm... Could I log in as one user then have them decrypt the other users home folder?
[04:21] <ikonia> glyn: in a terminal do "id" and show me the output pleae
[04:21] <XplOzIon> How to solve the installation problem when the video is not compatible. Help anyone please
[04:21] <SanguineAnomaly> hey  :)
[04:21] <ikonia> GMWeezel: depends on how your encyption works - possibly
[04:21] <tuna-fish-> could someone point me at a decent audio editing program for ubuntu?
[04:21] <tucoz> dat, otherwise. maybe you can get help in the #svn channel
[04:21] <ikonia> tuna-fish-: audacity
[04:21] <Scythe> I love documentation that is completely useless...
[04:21] <kidzior> re
[04:21] <walrus> i'm doing a php webservice for my thesis, i use Verdana font family as default, but the equivalent on Ubuntu has a lack on non-ascii characters ... what can i do about it ???
[04:21] <PriceChild> XplOzIon, have you tried starting in safe graphics mode on the cd?
[04:22] <XplOzIon> PriceChild, yes and still doesnt work
[04:22] <tuna-fish-> ikonia. thanks
[04:22] <glyn> ikonia:uid=1000(glyn) gid=1000(glyn) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29( audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),109(admin),1000(g lyn)
[04:22] <variant> GMWeezel: possibly you could change the gnome-session launching script to something like xterm -e truecryptcommandhere && gnome-session. this could be run by gdm instead of the standard gnome-session
[04:22] <PriceChild> XplOzIon, What goes wrong?
[04:22] <SanguineAnomaly> hey, I have a question about the install.exe: If there is no repartitioning - where is it installed to?
[04:22] <PriceChild> SanguineAnomaly, that is a prototype
[04:22] <ikonia> SanguineAnomaly: install.exe does not run on unix os's
[04:22] <XplOzIon> PriceChild, the video is not compatible. Im using an nVidia card, dont know whats wrong
[04:22] <PriceChild> SanguineAnomaly, it doesn't work completely yet. It stores it in a file on your windows hard drive
[04:22] <dat> tucoz: i'm in the #svn channel now, noone seems to be alive.  i did also read that section about caching.  my problem is that i can't get the initial prompt to begin w/, not that i need the pw cached.  though i have tried disabling caching and still run into the same problem.
[04:22] <GMWeezel> variant: will that allow me to enter the password?
[04:22] <ikonia> glyn: how frustrating
[04:23] <GMWeezel> variant: In other words, can I have program I/O
[04:23] <PriceChild> SanguineAnomaly, and mounts the file
[04:23] <SanguineAnomaly> PriceChild, aah.
[04:23] <SanguineAnomaly> thanks
[04:23] <variant> GMWeezel: what??? I/O?? where are you getting htat idea from?
[04:23] <walrus> i'm doing a php webservice for my thesis, i use Verdana font family as default, but the equivalent on Ubuntu has a lack on non-ascii characters ... what can i do about it ???
[04:23] <XplOzIon> PriceChild, is there a way to install it via shell?
[04:23] <glyn> ikonia: yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me how it'd work on Breezy and not on Dapper unless it's a driver issue, and lauchcam2 (easycam) freezes on me when it tries to get the drivers
[04:23] <Templarius> why would ubuntu say that my processor is 1000 MHz when its 2.4 GHz?
[04:23] <tucoz> dat, when i have made initial commits to svn repositories i am prompted for a u/n:pw
[04:23] <GMWeezel> variant: I/O as in typing stuff in
[04:23] <amorphous_> anyone help with deleting issues?
[04:23] <jrib> SanguineAnomaly: there's an explanation at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install%2eexe under "Implementation"
[04:23] <PriceChild> ikonia, they're working on an install.exe to install ubuntu from windows.... We're starting to get people confused etc. - thinking it works  :(
[04:23] <Polarity> Hey guys
[04:23] <variant> GMWeezel: I/O stands for input/output..
[04:23] <PriceChild> ikonia, but afaik its not working completely yet
[04:23] <SanguineAnomaly> jrib, ta :)
[04:23] <ikonia> why would people work on that ?
[04:24] <jrib> amorphous_: what deleting issues?
[04:24] <Polarity> Does the latest version of Ubuntu have NTFS support?
[04:24] <amorphous_> i cant make space on my external hdd??!!
[04:24] <ikonia> its the most pointless thing
[04:24] <variant> GMWeezel: and it has absolutly nothing to do with editing a script
[04:24] <GMWeezel> variant: I know; I/O: keyboard I/O; program I/O
[04:24] <tucoz> dat, doesn't google have a tutorial or some other kind of help to get started?
[04:24] <PriceChild> XplOzIon, you could install from the alternate cd... and then use hte live cd to manually change your xorg.conf to use vesa
[04:24] <GMWeezel> variant: I/O for entering the password into the program
[04:24] <LjL> amorphous_: look for a directory called ".trash" - and note that files starting with a dot are "hidden", so you need "ls -a" to see them, or if you're using Nautilus, some option there
[04:24] <Polarity> Anyone?
[04:24] <storeyzy_bio> polarity: it can read but cannot write ntfs partition
[04:24] <Polarity> Ah okay
[04:24] <variant> GMWeezel: nor does it have anything to do with programming...
[04:24] <dat> tucoz: back, sorry.  any other ideas?
[04:24] <alecjw> Polarity: yes, but read-only. there's a third party thing called ntfs-3g, whiuch gives read-wrtie support, but it's still a beta
[04:24] <Polarity> I need a live CD with write support
[04:24] <walrus> i think Verdana family font is propietary, what is the equivalent font on ubuntu ??
[04:24] <GMWeezel> variant: I never said it did
[04:24] <variant> GMWeezel: all you have to do is put one line at the start of a script..
[04:24] <variant> GMWeezel: yes, you did
[04:24] <alecjw> !ntfs-3g | Polarity
[04:24] <ubotu> Polarity: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:25] <GMWeezel> variant: show me.
[04:25] <variant> GMWeezel: "programming I/O" was your exact words
[04:25] <amorphous_> jrib, i used thunar (as root) and it seems to have not made any space on the drive
[04:25] <tucoz> dat, doesn't google have a tutorial or some other kind of help to get started?
[04:25] <GMWeezel> variant: No: (09:24:16 AM) James: variant: I know; I/O: keyboard I/O; program I/O
[04:25] <walrus> i think Verdana family font is propietary, what is the equivalent font on ubuntu ??
[04:25] <Polarity> I need to be able to use it as a live CD though
[04:25] <XplOzIon> PriceChild, does the alternate CD install ir via shell? without using video?
[04:25] <variant> GMWeezel: [16:35]  < GMWeezel> variant: In other words, can I have program I/O
[04:25] <walrus> i think Verdana family font is propietary, what is the equivalent font on ubuntu ??
[04:25] <tucoz> dat, maybe even a support channel perhaps
[04:25] <glyn> when I try to run gqcam:  it says..:/dev/video: No such device
[04:25] <jrib> amorphous_: did you try what LjL said?
[04:25] <Polarity> I can't install that with a liveCD can I?
[04:25] <amorphous_> LjL jrib i've done the usual
[04:25] <amorphous_> jrib yes
[04:25] <alecjw> walrus: DejaVu Sans or Nimbus Sans L
[04:25] <GMWeezel> variant: yea; I/O for the program; typing junk into it
[04:25] <variant> GMWeezel: look, do you want help or not?
[04:25] <glyn> maybe all these seemingly complex issues can be fixed with a restart or something
[04:25] <Scythe> so... I've got Intel Proset 3945ABG wireless that is detected, is correlated with the correct drivers, but has no physical ID or presence under iwconfig... so what now?
[04:25] <dat> tucoz: i thought they would.  but i can't seem to find one.
[04:25] <PriceChild> XplOzIon, yeah no true video, but its not really shell... its got a text based gui
[04:25] <chris_shafto> ahhhh it sucks soo much....if i want to be on skype i cant listen to music at the same time :(
[04:25] <dat> the best i found was this: http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=56669&useful=0&show_useful=1
[04:26] <CanadianMan__> variant, is it possible to have a program installed that encrypts files using the command line then make scripts or run them by hand at the log off and log on?
[04:26] <alecjw> Polarity: yes. you cna install stuffo n the livecd, but it's quite tricky. you cna use hte livecd just like a normal system
[04:26] <GMWeezel> variant: All I'm asking is that will doing that command line thing allow me to enter my password into the program or does it disable typing stuff into the program?
[04:26] <dat> tucoz: which doesn't tell me anything.  i guess i'll keep looking around.. thanks for trying
[04:26] <walrus> alecjw, does those fonts are standard on most linux distros ??
[04:26] <XplOzIon> PriceChild, oh like the older installer? Debian alike?
[04:26] <alecjw> walrus: i think so
[04:26] <PriceChild> XplOzIon, exactly :)
[04:26] <tucoz> dat, ok. good luck.
[04:26] <PriceChild> ubotu tell XplOzIon about alternate
[04:26] <andre> hello everyone,  Can anyone point me to a good how-to on how to get my 5.1 surround with onboard sound working?  (I'm using A8N-Sli mobo)
[04:26] <amorphous_> jrib LjL : in both my home and in root... but it's the usb drive i can't make space on... there's only archives on there - can find no hidden dir's. I have tried other options, but no joy
[04:27] <tucoz> dat, btw. could you repeat the error message?
[04:27] <XplOzIon> PriceChild, excelent... thats what i been looking for. Thank you.
[04:27] <amorphous_> jrib LjL : 's wierd :/
[04:27] <ikonia> andre: I didn't think that board had 5.1 on board
[04:27] <jrib> amorphous_: how about if you unmount it and then put it back in.  Does the space still not show up?
[04:27] <chris_shafto> anyway i can get two sound outputs at a time
[04:27] <Scythe> well, then... screw this little experiment
[04:27] <walrus> alecjw, thx dude
[04:27] <ikonia> andre: it has optical out to a 5.1 amp
[04:27] <variant> GMWeezel: my sugested idea was that you put the command which allows you to decrypt the volume with your password infront of the line in the same script that starts gnome, that way you could launch twm (minimal windowmanager) with an xterm and autorun that command which if successful would then continue to launch gnome
[04:27] <andre> ikonia (I have a8n-sli premium)
[04:27] <ikonia> alecjw: have you seen much of your foolish child friend ?
[04:28] <artemis_> a po polsku ktos tu pisze
[04:28] <GMWeezel> variant: I don't want my password to be passed by command line; that defeats the point of security.
[04:28] <jrib> !pl | artemis_
[04:28] <ubotu> artemis_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:28] <andre> ikonia:  I had 5.1 working in windows.
[04:28] <variant> GMWeezel: so how do you normally enter your password to decrypt the volume?
[04:28] <Music_Shuffle> jrib, what's PL..Polish?
[04:28] <amorphous_> Ahhh.. didn't think laterally (maybe i should sleep/eat a little... hang on - i'll try it
[04:28] <jrib> Music_Shuffle: yep
[04:28] <variant> GMWeezel: do you just think it and your computer picks it up from mind waves?
[04:28] <Music_Shuffle> Thanks, was wondering :P
[04:28] <GMWeezel> variant: You don't pass it via command line
[04:28] <GMWeezel> variant: You run it then it asks for it.
[04:29] <variant> GMWeezel: how do you pass it? into a gui?
[04:29] <variant> GMWeezel: I'm not suggesting that you enter your password in clear text onto the command line..
[04:29] <GMWeezel> variant: I thought you were.
[04:29] <dat> tucoz: svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svc/trunk'
[04:29] <alecjw> ikonia: nah. has he been blocked from freenode yet?
[04:29] <fotoflo_> hey quick question, my apache log is "-rw-r----- 1 root adm      0 2007-01-28 07:38 access.log
[04:29] <fotoflo_> "
[04:29] <variant> GMWeezel: I'm sugesting that the program that you would normaly run manualy would be run by the script and IT would prompt you for the password
[04:30] <fotoflo_> how do i make another file have the same permissions as that?
[04:30] <GMWeezel> variant: That's what I have been asking; would it allow the program to get I/O from me
[04:30] <ikonia> alecjw: not checked, just curious
[04:30] <CanadianMan__> GMWeezel, like inactive keyboard or whatever ssh is like
[04:30] <dat> tucoz: PROPFIND of '/svc/trunk': 401 Authorization Required
[04:30] <chris_shafto> Is there anyway I can get two sound outputs with onboard Intel 5.1 chip?
[04:30] <ikonia> chris_shafto: don't think so
[04:30] <chris_shafto> ikonia, thats stupid always worked with windows XD
[04:30] <alecjw> Polarity: install this on a livecd: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/otherosfs/ntfs-3g and rmeember to get the dfependencies
[04:30] <variant> GMWeezel: thats pretty much exactly what i have been trying to explain, although your use of "I/O" is a little odd
[04:30] <ikonia> use windows then
[04:31] <amorphous_> LjL, jrib - no joy :( maybe I should reboot...
[04:31] <chris_shafto> ikonia, like this more lol
[04:31] <kaso> Hi there, you know how when you Alt-Drag on a window it allows you move the window around, is it possible to change the alt modifer to something else ?
[04:31] <tucoz> dat, google gives lots of hits if you feed it with those error messages
[04:31] <GMWeezel> variant: Well I'll remember to use "access to the program prompt" next time or something.
[04:31] <variant> chris_shafto: you mean have two programs playing audio at the same time?
[04:31] <amorphous_> LjL, jrib the device still shows 0G free
[04:31] <dat> tucoz: i've been scanning through those. haven't found anything yet, #ubuntu was my last resort actually :)..
[04:31] <chris_shafto> variant, well yeh like XMMS  and Skype
[04:31] <ikonia> oh right, I thought he meant to output feeds
[04:31] <fotoflo_> anyone?
[04:31] <ikonia> two output feeds
[04:31] <amorphous_> and I have removed a few gig
[04:31] <ikonia> not two programs at the same time
[04:31] <chris_shafto> ikonia, nope lol
[04:32] <jrib> amorphous_: how are you checking?  Can you still write to it anyway?
[04:32] <dat> tucoz: just had a thought though. wonder if iptables is blocking the request for authorization.
[04:32] <chris_shafto> ikonia, sorry if it wasnt clear
[04:32] <dat> tucoz: let me flush and try again.
[04:32] <ikonia> thats easy that works out of the box
[04:32] <fotoflo_> ive just copied a file with "-rw-r----- 1 root adm" and it created a new file with "-rw-r----- 1 root adm" anyone know how to chmod the second file to look like the first?
[04:32] <variant> GMWeezel: yes, oss doesnt support that afaik but alsa does. old skype versions use oss so you would have to start any oss applications from under a program called "alsa-oss" it is a compatibility layer.. this will allow what your asking for
[04:32] <chris_shafto> what setting do i have to change to get two programs to work?
[04:32] <LjL> amorphous_: what is the filesystem? perhaps you need to run fsck?
[04:32] <fotoflo_> err whoops, ill say that again
[04:33] <dat> tucoz: nope, wasn't the problem.
[04:33] <amorphous_> jrib, df tells me the score... maybe fsck... ok.
[04:33] <fotoflo_> ive just copied a file with "-rw-r----- 1 root adm" and it created a new file with "-rw-r----- 1 root root" anyone know how to chmod the second file to look like the first?
[04:33] <variant> ikonia: what like two seperate channels?
[04:33] <ikonia> as in two cables going to speakers, sending two different outputs to each
[04:33] <jrib> fotoflo_: chgrp adm foobar
[04:33] <variant> ikonia: ah
[04:33] <tucoz> dat, too bad. well, hopefully someone in the svn channel wakes up soon :)
[04:33] <fotoflo_> sweet
[04:33] <fotoflo_> jrib thanks
[04:34] <chris_shafto> ikonia, i just meant having two programs that can both have audio output at the same time
[04:34] <glyn> I guess I will re-state the problem I'm having..I just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, and my webcam was working fine before this and now it can't detect it on /dev/video0.  Yet it sees it under the device manager.  Has anyone had a similar problem or have any suggestions?
[04:34] <CanadianMan__> is anyone using dvi/vga -> tv currently?
[04:34] <tucoz> dat, but it looks like a common problem though
[04:34] <ikonia> glyn: try a different program to access it
[04:34] <ikonia> CanadianMan__: yes
[04:34] <glyn> I tried gqcam, easycam2, and camorama, all say it can't detect it
[04:34] <ikonia> glyn: try something like gaim
[04:35] <amorphous_> jrib, so (for my information) it's not likely to store trash anywhere else but .trash folder in my home dir (or root if i'm root) is that right? (using thunar)
[04:35] <variant> glyn: type /dev/vid ont he command line and press the tab key twice, if it doesnt list anything then you will have to create it
[04:35] <jrib> amorphous_: you usually get a .Trash-$USER  on the usb stick
[04:35] <CanadianMan__> ikonia, what did you have to do exactly in your xorg.conf for that?
[04:35] <ikonia> CanadianMan__: nothing - its just a vga or dvi output to a TV
[04:35] <glyn> lol variant:  I must have to create it then, how do I do that?
[04:35] <variant> glyn: iirc, those programs look for /dev/video not /dev/video0 or 1.. you have to symlink the real device to /dev/video
[04:35] <glyn> it didn't list anything
[04:35] <dat> tucoz: i'll keep looking then.  thanks again for trying.
[04:35] <ikonia> glyn: you told me /dev/video was there
[04:36] <glyn> well I thought it was since it told me it couldn't see anything -in- /dev/video
[04:36] <variant> glyn: you have /dev/video?
[04:36] <ikonia> glyn: I TOLD you to look
[04:36] <CanadianMan__> ikonia, i'm using dvi -> component and my picture is not coming in correctly
[04:36] <ikonia> not assume
[04:36] <glyn> sorry I got confused
[04:36] <GunZ> guys what is the difference between your alternate and desktop iso?
[04:36] <glyn> I don't have /dev/video
[04:36] <ikonia> CanadianMan__: no idea on component
[04:36] <variant> glyn: try ls /dev/ | grep video
[04:36] <mwe> !alternate | gunne
[04:36] <ubotu> gunne: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:36] <mwe> !alternate | GunZ
[04:36] <ubotu> GunZ: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:36] <amorphous_> jrib, well.. i've got no .trash-user, maybe i'll reboot after fsck :(
[04:36] <ikonia> lieing time wasters even
[04:37] <variant> ikonia: mug of tea time i think ;)
[04:37] <jrib> amorphous_: not sure how are you checking but the 'T' is capital
[04:37] <glyn> I get nothing with that variant
[04:37] <variant> glyn: in that case then probably the module is not loaded
[04:37] <amorphous_> yeah - sorry - was lazy... am using a file manager
[04:37] <GunZ> mwe, so if I want to install ubuntu along side my other linux distro would it be better for me to d/l the alternate version?
[04:37] <variant> glyn: does lsusb list your camer?
[04:37] <amorphous_> and showing hidden files
[04:37] <glyn> variant: yes
[04:37] <mwe> GunZ: I think both would work
[04:37] <variant> glyn: what as?
[04:37] <NET||abuse> i'm truely at my wits end,, i can't get nm-applet to work with my wireless??? what is the most likely way to get edgy to work with nm-applet for bcm43xx
[04:37] <NET||abuse> ??
[04:38] <Polarity> Why do you ship older versions of Ubuntu?
[04:38] <glyn> if I wanted to purposely lie and waste times, I'm sure I could think of a better way
[04:38] <mwe> GunZ: however some people have problems with the live cd
[04:38] <chris_shafto> someone help with getting two programs to output audio at the same time please?
[04:38] <glyn> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8086:0110 Intel Corp. Easy PC Camera
[04:38] <templarius> does anyone know why ubuntu would say this? "2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ @ 1000MHz"
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Polarity, for those who..want it..?
[04:38] <Polarity> Hmm I suppose
[04:38] <ikonia> templarius: whats the problem with that
[04:38] <GunZ> mwe, ok, is there somewhere on the website that i could read about them, if there is anything more to the two cds?
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> :D
[04:38] <templarius> its a 2.4 GHz, not !
[04:38] <Polarity> I'd have thought you'd ship the new one because it has the latest patches and security stuff
[04:38] <templarius> 1
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> ikonia, I think he means the clocks are off.
[04:38] <variant> glyn: there is a command, i think its "usbmodules" or usb-modules" (use tab completion to find it) it will tell you what your usb device needs
[04:39] <ikonia> templarius: its just scaling down
[04:39] <CanadianMan__> Polarity, you can download the latest one
[04:39] <mwe> GunZ: I think they should provide the same stuff
[04:39] <Polarity> I am doing
[04:39] <templarius> so its only running them at 1GHz?
[04:39] <ikonia> yes
[04:39] <templarius> how do I fix it so they are really used then?
[04:39] <Music_Shuffle> Polarity, but it'd be mean and cruel and unfair to only offer the latest one! :o
[04:39] <mwe> GunZ: AFAIK the default install should be the same
[04:39] <glyn> variant: You must specify a device with something like: usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/001/009
[04:39] <GunZ> mwe, ok thanks for your help
[04:39] <Polarity> How much software is compiled for the PPC version?
[04:39] <ikonia> templarius: it is used, when it gets load it will scale up
[04:39] <Music_Shuffle> templarius, do something more intensive than chatting on IRC? :D
[04:39] <variant> templarius: speedstepping should be enabled automatically.. is it a laptop?
[04:39] <Polarity> I have an iBook lying around I might use it on
[04:39] <templarius> nope, desktop
[04:40] <ikonia> templarius: its fine
[04:40] <templarius> heh, IMm about to install ym ati drivers
[04:40] <templarius> :p
[04:40] <variant> templarius: even so, it will make your cpu live longer.
[04:40] <Music_Shuffle> templarius, then you have the cool and quiet thing turned on in the BIOS.
[04:40] <Music_Shuffle> Doesn't matter, it'll scale up when needed.
[04:40] <templarius> ah, yes I do
[04:40] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[04:40] <templarius> didnt even think of that
[04:40] <variant> glyn: use lsusb information and supply that to usbmodules
[04:40] <mwe> templarius: when you do something CPU intensive it should clock up, but I guess you tried
[04:40] <Polarity> Is Ubuntu for Mac better than Mac OS X and can I dual boot it?
[04:40] <variant> Polarity: yes and yes
[04:41] <ikonia> Polarity: thats just personal opinion
[04:41] <Polarity> Haha sweet.
[04:41] <Music_Shuffle> templarius, Cool and Quiet also wreaks havoc with OC's, so turn it off if you plan to muck about with that.
[04:41] <variant> Polarity: however certain things are a problem for some people, for example skype will not work on ppc linux
[04:41] <Polarity> Will it run okay on a low spec iBook?
[04:41] <Polarity> I never use Skype
[04:41] <variant> Polarity: how low spec?
[04:41] <glyn> I'm new, could you explain exactly so I don't mess up?  I'll paste the info one more time
[04:41] <Polarity> Can't remember
[04:41] <variant> glyn: please do
[04:41] <Polarity> Something like a G4 with 256Mb RAM
[04:41] <glyn> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8086:0110 Intel Corp. Easy PC Camera usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/001/009
[04:42] <templarius> nah, no need to overclock really
[04:42] <Polarity> 1.4Ghz
[04:42] <emilsedgh> could someone help me to start Beryl/XGL?
[04:42] <variant> Polarity: should be ok, a friend of mine had a g4 and it was pretty good
[04:42] <ikonia> emilsedgh: join #ubuntu-xgl
[04:42] <variant> Polarity: with ubuntu
[04:42] <zero88> what is the command to show my graphics card?????
[04:42] <Polarity> Good
[04:42] <amorphous_> LjL, jrib : thank you. fsck was the baby... I deleted the lost+found dir. would that have been it?
[04:42] <ikonia> zero88: lspci
[04:42] <Polarity> Does the installer offer to dualboot?
[04:42] <zero88> ikonia thanks
[04:42] <Polarity> I mean
[04:42] <emilsedgh> i have direct rendering and installed xserver-xgl and beryl
[04:42] <variant> glyn: so its usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/001/003
[04:42] <ikonia> emilsedgh: join #ubuntu-xgl
[04:43] <Polarity> Can I make it so I hold a key on boot and it goes to Ubuntu?
[04:43] <LjL> amorphous_: uhm, yeah, though it's weird that all the files you'd deleted ended up there
[04:43] <glyn> okay it listed something under that
[04:43] <glyn> when I put in that command
[04:43] <emilsedgh> ikonia: no answer at there!
[04:43] <sasch> hi all
[04:43] <GunZ> mwe, also do i get the choice to not install a wm/de or to choose alternatives other than gnome?
[04:43] <ikonia> emilsedgh: then wait
[04:43] <glyn> spca5xx
[04:43] <sasch> can help me with one package for apt
[04:43] <amorphous_> LjL, no, sorry - i dont think they did - it was just a dir i deteted to make space
[04:43] <variant> Polarity: kinda, there is a hidden menu at boot time, the default can be macos and to boot ubutnu you press escape for menu and select ubutnu
[04:43] <Music_Shuffle> emilsedgh, Dapper or Edgy?
[04:43] <variant> glyn: ok, excllent
[04:44] <sasch> i have a ubuntu server with kernel 2.6.15-26-server
[04:44] <sasch> why when i write
[04:44] <variant> glyn: do lsmod | grep spca5
[04:44] <mwe> when I try to apt-get install anything it tells me a bunch of packages can be safely removed. How do I tell apt 'Hey don't keep telling me it safe to remove that! I want to keep them'
[04:44] <ikonia> variant: not sure its called the same under 6.x
[04:44] <sasch> apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[04:44] <zero88> ikonia i get this    Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller   how would i install the drivers?
[04:44] <sasch> don't find my kernel ??
[04:44] <glyn> variant: okay I did that but didn't see anything
[04:44] <amorphous_> LjL, jrib Oh dear.... i was wrong... it hasn't fixed it - it still reads 0B
[04:44] <ikonia> zero88: you don't have to
[04:44] <amorphous_> I'm gonna reboot...
[04:44] <variant> ikonia: the camera modul;e is named differently under 2.6?
[04:44] <Polarity> Oh good variant
[04:45] <zero88> ikonia oh, they already are installed? well then how come i cant change the resolution of my screen?
[04:45] <ikonia> variant: I /think/ so when I did a uick look
[04:45] <ikonia> zero88: xorg probably not using them
[04:45] <variant> ikonia: will check
[04:45] <variant> glyn: hold please
[04:45] <mwe> GunZ: you could a) installe xubuntu/kubuntu instead b) install the minimal installation and apt-get install your preferred de
[04:45] <variant> glyn: type sudo modprobe spca5xx
[04:45] <zero88> ikonia xorg the graphics deamen?
[04:45] <ikonia> zero88: yes
[04:45] <zero88> ikonia would you know how to configure that?o rhave a link