[13:22] <yacc> jrib, I'm using 2.6.27-14-generic, and wlan + nvidia work.
[13:22] <Titan8990_> indus, I think what you want is to make a dir: ~/scripts and then add it your $PATH
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> indus: thats because the binary file named firefox is in your $PATH
[13:22] <Crash_99> mickster04 - gonna try to get it again...
[13:22] <indus> ActionParsnip1: aargh i got it
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> indus: if you type      echo $PATH
[13:22] <mickster04> Crash_99, ok, i presume you've googled it
[13:22] <indus> yes /usr/bin /usr/sbin etc
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> indus: you will see a whole load of other folders that are universally available
[13:22] <yacc> jrib, I'd like to install the 2.6.30 from the ppa, skipping 2.6.28 (which is bad for my hardware), but while 2.6.30 seems to be stable thermically, it is missing nvidia/wlan.
[13:22] <jrib> yacc: what ppa
[13:23] <indus> ActionParsnip1: and we can also add ~home to this path
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> indus: yes, so you can either add the location of the file to $PATH, or you can move the script into one of those foilders
[13:23] <yacc> jrib, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/
[13:23] <hackoo> I have installed ubuntu 9.04, by default it has only 2 workplaces, how to add more workplaces like fedora?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> indus: you can add ANY folder to $PATH
[13:23] <mickster04> hackoo, right-cick?
[13:23] <mickster04> hackoo, right-cick?>prefernces
[13:23] <indus> hackoo: right click on it and select 4
[13:24] <mickster04> hackoo, right-click?>preferences*
[13:24] <melinux> #ubuntu-it
[13:24] <indus> hackoo: you can also rename the workspace name to whatever u like
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> indus: if the script you made is in the paths then you can call your script without having to specify the absolute path to it, just like you dont have to type /usr/bin/firefox to launch firefox
[13:24] <yacc> jrib, no "custom" kernel at all.
[13:24] <hackoo> ok doing that
[13:24] <indus> ActionParsnip1: yes i got it
[13:25] <christophsturm> is it safe to run jaunty with ext4?
[13:26] <Titan8990_> christophsturm, long debated
[13:26] <Titan8990_> as long as its not a production server
[13:26] <indus> christophsturm: its  a vague question but ext4 is not official in jaunty and will only be in ubuntu 10.04
[13:26] <mickster04> christophsturm, i am using it :D fine so far
[13:26] <lincid> I have a question; I am currently connected to my irssi on my server; screen is showing 5 available updates, but sudo apt-get upgrade is not grabbing them?
[13:27] <indus> !irssi
[13:27] <n0gear> any personal finance program in ubuntu/linux?
[13:27] <indus> n0gear:!gnucash
[13:27] <indus> !gnucash
[13:27] <djiezes> n0gear: gnucash
[13:28] <lincid> !screen > me
[13:28] <jrib> yacc: but I imagine you want to build linux-restricted-modules for that kernel...
[13:28] <bring-back-mibbi> hi
[13:28] <maverick340> !ls > me
[13:28] <mickster04> hi
[13:28] <Titan8990_> yacc, vanilla kernels in ubuntu are not recommended
[13:28] <bring-back-mibbi> I am trying to use a vpn
[13:29] <bring-back-mibbi> it works fine on windows
[13:29] <maverick340> how do i view direcotry listing of a webpage via command line ?
[13:29] <lincid> I have a question; I am currently connected to my irssi on my server; screen is showing 5 available updates, but sudo apt-get upgrade is not grabbing them?
[13:29] <mickster04> !vpn
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> !info gnucash
[13:29] <bring-back-mibbi> but it doesn't work on ubuntu
[13:29] <bring-back-mibbi> what do you recommend?
[13:29] <Titan8990_> lincid, sudo aptitude full-upgrade OR sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:29] <indus> lincid: the command is sudo apt-get update
[13:30] <Titan8990_> indus, no its not
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> !vpn | bring-back-mibbi
[13:30] <christophsturm> I'm setting up a server for my home office, and i have 4 tb disks in it with a mdadm raid. and I want to use ext4 for performance reasons
[13:30] <lincid> Titan8990_: I'm using 9.04, I'm just talking 5 packages showing for updates.
[13:30] <indus> Titan8990_: well ok
[13:30] <lincid> indus: That just updates the sources.list, not what I'm needing. ;)
[13:30] <mickster04> christophsturm, i think it might be safer to wait
[13:30] <Titan8990_> lincid, I know what you are talking about, I gave the commands to use
[13:30] <lincid> lst*
[13:30] <kbp> I get this error when running make: make[1]: Entering directory `/download/kazehakase-0.5.6/po'
[13:30] <kbp> file=`echo cs | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
[13:30] <kbp>           && rm -f $file &&  -o $file cs.po
[13:30] <kbp> /bin/sh: -o: not found
[13:30] <Titan8990_> lincid, apt-get upgrade IMPLIES safe-upgrade
[13:30] <FloodBot3> kbp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:30] <Crash_99> mickster04 - It's giving me a checksum error on a linux-restricted package when I do a disk check and during install.
[13:31] <JoshuaP0x> I'm SSHed into my box right now from a windows machine at work. I would like to transfur some files over. what are the commands?
[13:31] <scunizi> lincid: ok. I'll bite.. screen doesn't show updates perse.  you have to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:31] <jrib> yacc: if I were in your shoes I would just build the kernel myself including -restricted using the information ubottu provided.  But if you wish you can just build -restricted and use that ppa for the kernel
[13:31] <mickster04> Crash_99, have you tried locating the .deb file on the internet?
[13:31] <indus> n0gear:also try kmoney in kde ,
[13:31] <christophsturm> I'm running my workstation with karmic and ext4 for some time without problems now
[13:31] <christophsturm> but for the server I'd rather use jaunty
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> !sshfs | JoshuaP0x
[13:32] <Crash_99> mickster04 - nope, never tought of that.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> JoshuaP0x: you need winscp
[13:32] <mickster04> christophsturm, with 4tb of data play it safe?
[13:32] <JoshuaP0x> ActionParsnip1: thanks.
[13:32] <indus> Titan8990_: why do a dist-upgrade
[13:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all, I upgraded jaunty and I think the intel driver was updated, on restart I get something about invalid LVDS modes and can only run in safe graphics modes
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> scunizi: dist-upgrade implies upgrade
[13:33] <christophsturm> mickster04: but i still would like to use ext4, because the other option is to convert 4 tb to ext4 later without backuping them
[13:33] <lincid> scunizi: Alright, that seems to be all and well. My question now, is on screen what is the "5!" in the red block? ;)
[13:33] <lincid> scunizi: I was under the impression that was available updates?
[13:33] <JoshuaP0x> ActionParsnip1: really, i need a ftp server even if i'm SSH'ed into the box already from the box i want to Tx to?
[13:33] <scunizi> ActionParsnip1: but not to the next version release of ubuntu
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> christophsturm: youdont really get the benefits of ext4 if its convrted from ext3
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> JoshuaP0x: should be fine
[13:34] <Titan8990_> indus, dist-upgrade doesn't mean that it upgrades to a new version, however it is used as such in debian
[13:34] <christophsturm> ActionParsnip1: good to know
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> scunizi: no you need the update-manager for that
[13:34] <mickster04> christophsturm, why doesnt that happen now? i dont iunderstand?
[13:34] <indus> Titan8990_: ok now thats something new i hear, are you sure of this
[13:34] <scunizi> lincid: my version of screen doesn't have a theme and is fairly "invisible". do you mean on irssi?
[13:34] <christophsturm> mickster04: I'm setting up the raid right now, and i still have the data on other disks
[13:34] <Titan8990_> indus, man apt-get
[13:35] <lincid> scunizi: I'm pretty sure it is screen, because I don't see this information via just plain irssi. It has the load info as well, etc.
[13:35] <mickster04> christophsturm,  oh, cant you keep the ol disks anyway>
[13:35] <lincid> scunizi: To be honest, the last time I was on linux, screen didn't have these "tabs", so I'm still getting used to it.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> indus: dist-upgrade also pulls in new kernels and other such stuff that isnt always needed
[13:35] <DrFart> org
[13:36] <scunizi> lincid: can you do a screen shot and pastebin it someplace?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> indus: if you stick to upgrade you'll be fine
[13:36] <lincid> scunizi: Indeed. Just a sec please ;)
[13:36] <scunizi> lincid: tabs?  now you've really mystified me
[13:36] <Le-Chuck_ITA> is there a way to connect to network-manager networks without logging in to X?
[13:36] <lincid> scunizi: The ss will explain a bit. ;)
[13:36] <christophsturm> mickster04: i want to put the disks into the raid too and grow the raid onto them :)
[13:36] <indus> mickster04: has the ff 3.5 update arrived yet
[13:36] <mickster04> christophsturm, o i c
[13:37] <mickster04> indus iunno :P
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> Le-Chuck_ITA: network manager is an x app so I'd say no, you can use /etc/network/interfaces if you wish to use non-x. it will override anything network manager trys to setup
[13:37] <indus> mickster04: do that !ff3.5 redirect to me now :P
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> !ff3.5 > indus
[13:37] <indus> !ff-3.5
[13:37] <indus> lol
[13:37] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip1: wifi can't be turned on from command line, iwconfig just does nothing
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> !ff3.5 > indus
[13:37] <mickster04> !ff35
[13:38] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip1: but as n-m can connect there should be a way
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> Le-Chuck_ITA: set it up in the interfaces file and then run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:38] <indus> ActionParsnip1: mickster04:also, are you guys using it already from some PPA and what are the noticeable improvements
[13:38] <Titan8990_> Le-Chuck_ITA, there is nothing wrong with iwconfig, you are likely not using it properly, but that not what action told you to do
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> indus: i dont use firefox
[13:38] <indus> damn
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> indus: i think its overrated
[13:38] <Titan8990_> opera ftw
[13:38] <mickster04> indus im using it on windows an its faster, a bit shineyer
[13:38] <indus> ActionParsnip1: which one you use
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> Titan8990_: HI5!
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> indus: opera
[13:39] <mickster04> indus i dunno what else, not really played much
[13:39] <indus> yeah opera is getting overrated these days :P
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> its all personal choice
[13:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Titan8990_: I used iwconfig when I was younger, I do "iwconfig wlan0 essid v2" where v2 is a non-protected network, and it does not associate. I do "iwconfig ap ADDRESS_OF_AP" and it does not associate again
[13:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip1: can I set the wireless ESSID in interfaces?
[13:39] <indus> ActionParsnip1: but i find the way it loads pages a liitle strange/ not used to
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> Le-Chuck_ITA: indeed
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> Le-Chuck_ITA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> indus: who cares how they are loaded as long as they view fine?
[13:40] <Titan8990_> Le-Chuck_ITA, iwlist wlan0 scan; iwconfig essid 'ESSID'; dhclient wlan0
[13:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip1: man interfaces, man wireless
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> Le-Chuck_ITA: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[13:41] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Titan8990_: yes, after the second step the status reported by iwconfig is "unassociated"
[13:41] <lincid> scunizi: http://i40.tinypic.com/1z1fbj9.jpg
[13:41] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ActionParsnip1: I know the rest, thanks a lot
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> Le-Chuck_ITA: np bro
[13:41] <yossarian> oh Jesus Christ on a rubber crutch i did it!
[13:41] <papul> can any1 tell me the default repositories of ubuntu
[13:41] <yossarian> :D
[13:41] <scunizi> lincid: sorry that link gives me nothing.. just white space
[13:42] <papul> i cant install any software
[13:42] <jrib> papul: did I not tell you the procedure before?
[13:42] <Halitech> papul, what happens when you try?
[13:42] <indus> !automatix
[13:42] <PuuhBaer> hi, someone there wo knows how i can include openssl?
[13:42] <lincid> scunizi: ...strange
[13:43] <Halitech> papul, and what version are you using?
[13:45] <carml> papul:  the repository I use is http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy,substitute hardy with your distro name
[13:46] <pirx> hi! has anyone used a (software) load balancer in linux? any (negative?) recommendations?
[13:46] <xukun> is it possible to see which services or program is keeping my sound card busy?
[13:46] <papul> carml: whats ubuntu 9.04 called?
[13:46] <erUSUL> xukun: sudo lsof /dev/snd/*
[13:46] <mickster04> jaunty
[13:46] <indus> !jaunty
[13:47] <indus> mickster04: :P
[13:47] <carml> xukun : at least there alsa sound,look under system-monitor
[13:47] <papul> pastebin is not workin
[13:47] <PuuhBaer> can someone tell me how i can include openssl for using psybnc with ssl?
[13:48] <Guest9325> ackbahr here : I managed to connect to the internet over bluetooth and GPRS! Yeeha! Now I'm gonna have to call my mobile phone provider....
[13:48] <Guest9325> So long!
[13:48] <C-S-B> Guest9325 well done, what software did you end up using? blueman?
[13:49] <A|i> we want firefox 3.5! c'mon ubuntu!!
[13:49] <xukun> erUSUL, thanks but that does not do it for me
[13:49] <carml> papul 9.04 for short is jaunty,it's complete name is Jaunty Jackalope
[13:49] <A|i> all windows users already have firefox 3.5, it's not fair
[13:49] <Halitech> papul, use this for now http://pastebin.com/
[13:49] <PuuhBaer> 14:49:06) (A|i) all windows users already have firefox 3.5, it's not fair <- compile your self ;)
[13:49] <f_> join #firefox
[13:49] <f_> lol
[13:49] <deany> A|i, there is a PPA for it...
[13:49] <mickster04> anyone not being served
[13:49] <A|i> deany, isn't the PPS RC2?
[13:50] <erUSUL> !latest | A|i
[13:50] <denny> the ppa gave me an old beta
[13:50] <erUSUL> !ff35
[13:50] <deany> A|i, guess you have to wait for them to update it then.  dont expect ubuntu to have it in repos tho.
[13:50] <indus> !backports
[13:50] <deany> ahh, it might be in repos after all then.
[13:50] <Halitech> mickster04, yeah, I ordered a beer half an hour ago and I haven;t been served yet :D
[13:50] <f_> i've just installed firefox 3.5 on my ubuntu HH, but it seems to be a Shiretoko 3.5 pre... WTF is going on?
[13:51] <mickster04> Halitech, so u r being served, just slowly :P
[13:51] <ackbahr> Well, here I am really to tell you about it : I'm over GPRS over bluetooth! Well, so long, gotta save on data volume....
[13:51] <red_> .
[13:51] <f_> any ideas?
[13:51] <KGodwin> !ff35 | f_
[13:51] <red_> h
[13:52] <mickster04> i
[13:52] <leo1> Good afternoon gentlemen. I have a hard drive with 3 partitions on board. All are NTFS. When I am trying to install Ub 9.04, it sees the whole hard disk as a single partition. What's the problem?
[13:52] <f_> thank you
[13:52] <mickster04> (andd ladies)
[13:52] <KGodwin> np.
[13:52] <red_> j
[13:52] <leo1> My apologies to ladies, good afternoon to ya too
[13:52] <mickster04> red problem?
[13:53] <mickster04> red_ problem?
[13:53] <indus> jaunty update manager still doesnt give me automatic popups
[13:53] <Madkiss> can I make hal recognize my software-raid-devices as normal drives?
[13:54] <red_> sorry mickster I'm testing new version of xchat
[13:54] <KGodwin> indus: You can always just sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:54] <mickster04> red_ o? i use xchat...
[13:54] <red_> me too :-)
[13:54] <indus> KGodwin: yes i know but iam getting tired of manually updating always
[13:55] <indus> KGodwin: i also tried the fix but IT DOENST WORK
[13:55] <KGodwin> indus: Write a script to do it? xD
[13:55] <mickster04> red_ i've got 2.8.6 is that not the latest
[13:55] <red_> really?
[13:55] <indus> it seems update manager now only wakes up to european time
[13:55] <mickster04> red_ i've got 2.8.6 is that not the latest?
[13:55] <indus> sorry but iam not from europe
[13:55] <vadimer> Hello all
[13:56] <KGodwin> indus: I just tend to rubber band things when I can't fix them easily...like gnome's lack of wallpaper support for multiple monitors. Just one perl script solves the problem. :P
[13:56] <mickster04> hi
[13:56] <red_> imho it's the latest one
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> indus: cron a job
[13:56] <red_> i'm runnin' it on ubuntu 9.04 x64
[13:56] <mickster04> red_ oh ok
[13:56] <vadimer> im trying to switch from windows to ubuntu  but not sure how to get programs like skype onto this system
[13:56] <indus> ActionParsnip1: iam trying to get the old notification back
[13:56] <red_> just installed after arch and ubuntu 7.10 :-)
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> !skype > vadimer
[13:56] <DJones> !skype | vadimer
[13:56] <indus> ActionParsnip1: but it just aint working
[13:56] <mickster04> vadimer, system>admin>synaptics
[13:57] <Severity1> you guys know the notification that flashes when someone sends you a message right?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> indus: ive never used it. its on my gutting script for clean installs. Get rid, cron a job
[13:57] <indus> vadimer: are you on windows now or ubuntu?
[13:57] <vadimer> ubuntu
[13:57] <Severity1> does anyone know how to change the location of where it appears?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> Severity1: its on the to do list
[13:57] <indus> ActionParsnip1: what u mean never used it? Notification popups are default in ubuntu , that orange glow
[13:57] <mickster04> vadimer, synaptics package manager is the easiest way to instal stuff
[13:57] <Hohlraum> i'm sure this has been asked but does anyone know if the firefox 3.5 in universe is going to get updated to the release version for jaunty?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> indus: yes i always get rid of it
[13:57] <indus> ActionParsnip1: updates available
[13:58] <mickster04> !ff3.5
[13:58] <ziroday> Severity1: its an applet, so you can move it wherever you want (I presume you are talking about indicator-applet and not notify-osd)
[13:58] <red_> mibye guys :-)
[13:58] <Le-Chuck_ITA> can I assign a bug to more than 1 ubuntu package in launchpad?
[13:58] <indus> ActionParsnip1: why?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> indus: my cron job runs every 3 hours
[13:58] <Hohlraum> thanks
[13:58] <gggg> what's the best offline dictionary for ubuntu?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> indus: so i dont worry about them
[13:58] <Severity1> no the new notification popup stuff that came with jaunty
[13:58] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i prefer that glow so can you help me trouble shoot
[13:58] <Le-Chuck_ITA> !best
[13:58] <erUSUL> Le-Chuck_ITA: how can a bug affect more than one package ?
[13:58] <ziroday> Le-Chuck_ITA: ask in #launchpad
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> indus: well as you know its not something i'm familiar with as i've only seen it once, hated it and got rid
[13:59] <Le-Chuck_ITA> erUSUL: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+bug/394266 affects both firefox and poppler
[13:59] <Le-Chuck_ITA> for different reason, union is strenght erUSUL :)
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> indus: I hate stuff popping up or making a stupid noise. I'll do it when i want not when some system prompts me to ump
[14:00] <indus> ActionParsnip1: heh its a gentle icon in thetray thats all
[14:00] <mickster04> ActionParsnip1, i agree with u
[14:00] <indus> ActionParsnip1: anyways back to problem, they say to change some options to get it back,
[14:00] <KGodwin> indus: He finds it annoying, so do I. :P
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> indus: i still dislike it greatly. I can go for months without updateing if i wish but its gonna sit and bug me to update all the time
[14:00] <Severity1> ziroday, the new notification thing that came bundled with jaunty
[14:01] <indus> ActionParsnip1: KGodwin:iam trying to get old behaviour back but i am not able to
[14:01] <ziroday> Severity1: are you talking about notify-osd or indicator-applet?
[14:01] <indus> ActionParsnip1: KGodwin:do you know how i can
[14:01] <Zettt> hi. my girlfriend has problems with wlan on ubuntu 9.04 (bcm4306 card). i used bc43-fwcutter to make it find wireless lans. suddenly wlan stopped working. someone may help please?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> indus: i'm no help. sorry
[14:01] <KGodwin> indus: And we are telling you a work around...but we don't know how to fix it 'cause we never use it.
[14:01] <gggg> hello,need a offline dictionary for ubuntu
[14:01] <Severity1> i think it is the notify-osd
[14:01] <erUSUL> Le-Chuck_ITA: this are imho two different bugs one for firefox and one that affects evince/poppler. both bugs are triggered by the same pdf file but are different bugs
[14:02] <indus> Severity1: no it cant be changed
[14:02] <Severity1> awwww
[14:02] <jefinc> !patience | gggg
[14:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> erUSUL: perhaps you're right, I am a bit lazy today
[14:02] <indus> Severity1: actually there is a tool to change it but it doenst work
[14:02] <erUSUL> Le-Chuck_ITA: or perhaps is one bug that afects Cairo and its handling of pdf files
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> KGodwin: what was funny is that it was a big deal in jaunty from what i read, when i got it i hated it
[14:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> gggg: add/remove applications has usage statistics, I'd pick-up the first one that matches my desktop, e.g. for gnome
[14:02] <Severity1> hmmmmmm
[14:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> erUSUL: what I will do is wait for poppler maintainers to tell me what to do :)
[14:03] <vadimer> holy crap that was easy to install lol
[14:03] <indus> ActionParsnip1: what are you talking about
[14:03] <indus> ActionParsnip1: you mean auto pop update manager? all of us hate it
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> indus: could try:  apt-cache search notify | less
[14:03] <KGodwin> ActionParsnip1: I nuke anything that gives notifications other than Pidgin, Gwibber, and XChat.
[14:03] <vadimer> now when i use wine i take the game i want to play and install it with a disk do i do it just like windows?
[14:04] <KGodwin> vadimer: More or less, yes.
[14:04] <vadimer> ok cool thanks
[14:04] <KGodwin> vadimer: Some games may require more effort to get working properly. Some will not work.
[14:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> vadimer: if it works under wine, you run the installer but better looking at the wine applications database and see how to configure wine for your game
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> vadimer: you should check the appdb for compatibility, not all games run
[14:04] <vadimer> ok
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> vadimer: some run awesome (doom3, deusex, world of warcraft)
[14:04] <indus> vadimer: which game?
[14:04] <uhok> Hello. I'm trying to build partimage from source, but I'm having trouble. http://paste.ubuntu.com/207512/
[14:04] <vadimer> warhammer
[14:04] <vadimer> or aion
[14:05] <indus> ActionParsnip1: doom3 is a linux game too
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> vadimer: some will not work. some require you to download dll files and place them in certain directorys
[14:05] <KGodwin> vadimer: I suggest installing and testing it yourself anyway...I've found the compatibility database not 100% accurate. ;)
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> indus: i know but the win version runs fine in wine
[14:05] <PastaMan> I fail to see the difference between Fedora 11 and ubuntu.. is it that different?
[14:05] <kbp>  I've just install Kazehakase from terminal but no idea how to run it. Could anyone please tell me its location? (sorry for my noob question). Thank you very much
[14:05] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i hate the concept of wine
[14:05] <vadimer> cool thanks for the help
[14:05] <jrib> PastaMan: package management
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> vadimer: make sure you get the wine version off the wine repo: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[14:05] <Zettt> OK, thanks anyway.
[14:05] <indus> i rather use windows xp
[14:05] <PastaMan> jrib, it is better in fedora?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> indus: helps run games some
[14:06] <jrib> PastaMan: are you a troll?
[14:06] <PastaMan> I'm just asking.. I know little to nothing about the differences
[14:06] <kompi07> kambing
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> PastaMan: try a few distros, see which you like
[14:06] <PastaMan> No, I got ubuntu installed atm.
[14:06] <indus> jrib:thats rude
[14:06] <KGodwin> indus: I run old windows-only games like X-COM: Interceptor, Pax Imperia, etc.
[14:06] <jrib> PastaMan: ok, just a strange way to ask the question
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> indus: really old games work great in dosbox too :)
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> indus: like jones i the fast lane and dune 2
[14:07] <kompi07> tguyp
[14:07] <PastaMan> jrib, , I'm new to linux
[14:07] <indus> KGodwin: i play quake and only quake
[14:07] <PastaMan> I instilled it this night
[14:07] <Krishna> I want to install opensuse.. Shall i use gparted to resize my ubuntu ext4 partition and make some space for osuse ??
[14:07] <jrib> PastaMan: try both and use what you like
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> indus: the first quake?
[14:07] <indus> ActionParsnip1: quake 4 mp
[14:07] <indus> ActionParsnip1: although i love quake 2 a lot the sp
[14:08] <PastaMan> That costs me too much time hehe, I'll just stick with Ubuntu for now until I get a real reason or explenation that convines me to switch
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> indus: gotcha, quake implies quake 1
[14:08] <Krishna> I want to install opensuse.. Shall i use gparted to resize my ubuntu ext4 partition and make some space for osuse ?? .. i mean,i want ubuntu and opensuse both...
[14:08] <supersasho> hi.. can anyone help me with a small bash script? http://pastebin.com/de7f365b .. i didn't wrote it, i just want that it shows me GHz frequency in conky, but it doesn't work :) the highlighted line i don't get, what does it do?
[14:08] <Halitech> Krishna, you can't resize a mounted partition so you will need to use the live cd
[14:09] <ziroday> Krishna: well opensuse will need some space, so you will have to free up some room for it.
[14:09] <jrib> PastaMan: sure.  Sorry about the troll thing.  I'm a bit paranoid I suppose
[14:09] <indus> Krishna: yep use live cd
[14:09] <Krishna> indus, ziroday Halitech thanks
[14:09] <legend2440> uhok: why compile partimage? same version is already in synaptic
[14:09] <indus> how is open suse btw
[14:09] <jrib> PastaMan: do you know about virtualization?  You can run other distros inside ubuntu to try them out
[14:09] <indus> good kde 4 mmm
[14:09] <jrib> !virtualizers > PastaMan
[14:09] <SandGorgon> !ff35
[14:10] <jrib> PastaMan: I'd recommend virtualbox
[14:10] <uhok> legend2440, I'm not seeing partimage within synaptic.
[14:10] <indus> what kind of testing is being done for ff 3.5?
[14:10] <Gun_Smoke> jrib: PastaMan Same here, but not the -ose edition.
[14:10] <ziroday> indus: the does-it-actually-work testing.
[14:10] <indus> ok
[14:11] <PastaMan> I'll burn the fedora CD and see if it fits me, i'll just make a new partition for it
[14:11] <indus> ziroday: well if it doenst work, will the windows version be out?
[14:11] <jrib> PastaMan: if you use virtualbox, you don't have to burn or partition anythning and you run fedora inside ubuntu
[14:11] <indus> ziroday: i think they are doing the packaging and update process
[14:11] <Halitech> supersasho, not sure myself but I just have this line in my conky, no script required ... ${execi 1000 cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name' | sed -e 's/model name.*: //'} ${color lightgrey}${freq_dyn}Ghz
[14:11] <ziroday> indus: um yes? firefox 3.5 has already been released. It just has to be packaged for ubuntu
[14:11] <indus> ziroday: heh yes same point
[14:12] <PastaMan> Not into virtualbox
[14:12] <ziroday> indus: ubuntu testing of the updated ubuntu firefox packages are being done.
[14:12] <legend2440> uhok: do you have universe repo enabled?
[14:12] <supersasho> Halitech: ok, i'll try that :)
[14:12] <indus> ziroday: iam mighty excited about this
[14:12] <indus> ziroday: had too many issues with ff so i hope its solved now
[14:12] <indus> almost made the jump to opera
[14:12] <tyranos> does somebody know how to get firefox3-5 to play html5 videos .
[14:12] <tyranos> ?
[14:13] <kbrosnan> tyranos: what site?
[14:13] <indus> tyranos: where did you find an html 5 video
[14:13] <uhok> legend2440, yes.
[14:13] <tyranos> on youtube
[14:13] <eldenz> my locale -a only lists C and POSIX, how do i get others? (like en_US.UTF-8)
[14:13] <kbrosnan> tyranos: h.264 encoded avi. firefox is ogg theora only
[14:13] <ziroday> tyranos: you can't play the youtube videos as youtube uses the h.264 codec. You can however play all videos using the theora codec.
[14:14] <tyranos> where can i find some
[14:14] <PastaMan> is it possible to run a sidebar as in windows on ubuntu?
[14:14] <kbrosnan> openvideo.dailymotion.com
[14:14] <ziroday> tyranos: openvideo.dailymotion.com
[14:14] <tyranos> ziroday, i was there and same error
[14:14] <ziroday> tyranos: error being?
[14:15] <legend2440> uhok: are you using jaunty?
[14:15] <tyranos> i should update firefox although i was using 3.6 on intrepid
[14:15] <uhok> legend2440, yes.
[14:15] <ziroday> tyranos: try play the video in http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/whatsnew/
[14:15] <legend2440> uhok: in terminal type   suso apt-get install partimage..
[14:16] <legend2440> uhok: in terminal type   sudo apt-get install partimage..
[14:16] <legend2440> sudo
[14:16] <kbrosnan> tyranos: they user agent sniff for Firefox only
[14:16] <PastaMan> Conky it seems
[14:16] <kbrosnan> they being dailymotion
[14:16] <eldenz> weeh, language-pack-en ftw
[14:16] <legend2440> uhok: sorry in terminal type   sudo apt-get install partimage             not dots on end
[14:16] <uhok> legend2440, Package partimage has no installation candidate
[14:17] <tyranos> ah that could be it if minefield identified as something else
[14:17] <uhok> legend2440, I've already done this..
[14:17] <PastaMan> or or cairo dock
[14:18] <tyranos> ziroday, ok my firefox 3.6 is crashing on those videosites , i ll try 3.5 again and see
[14:19] <setuid> Why does everything depend on this useless avahi daemon and related avahi packages?
[14:19] <setuid> wine? gthumb? What could they possibly have to do with mDNS?
[14:19] <legend2440> uhok: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/partimage
[14:20] <setuid> gnumeric? f-spot? totem? ubuntu-docs?! Seems like some packager went rogue and linked it to everything, just to be sure it never was ejected from the system.
[14:21] <tyranos> kbrosnan, when i use firefox-3.5 i get only flash content even if i m here openvideo.dailymotion.com
[14:21] <uhok> legend2440, I am AMD x86_64.
[14:21] <tyranos> it says on mozilla wahts new site that i should update to the latest beta !!!
[14:21] <thee_> can it be use ram  more than 4 gb on 32 bit os?
[14:21] <legend2440> uhok: ok that explains it... sorry for the confusion
[14:21] <thee_> thanks
[14:22] <indus> !avahi
[14:22] <indus> !info  | avahi
[14:22] <indus> !info avahi
[14:22] <tel0s> good afternoon gentlemen.
[14:23] <setuid> !info avahi-daemon
[14:23] <Gun_Smoke> thee_: yeah, server kernel
[14:23] <setuid> indus, avahi has 125 dependents
 you mean "ubuntu server"?
[14:23] <setuid> If I remove avahi, 125 other packages get pulled with it
[14:23] <wapko> is that with some pae thing then ?
[14:24] <Gun_Smoke> thee_: the servers kernel can address more than 3GB of ram on 32bit machines
[14:25] <kbp> I've just install kazehakase. Does anyone know how to run it from terminal?
[14:25] <kbp> *installed
,  normal machines can adress  maximum 4 gb. on 32 bit os using more than 4 gb ram is handicap for performanca?
[14:26] <Gun_Smoke> thee_: 32bit can only access 3GB.
 why?
[14:26] <Gun_Smoke> thee_: You'll need to use linux-image-2.6.28-13-server or a 64bit machine to access more than 3GB.
[14:27] <legend2440> uhok: this post mentions how you might get partimage to install on x64    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[14:27] <gangil> if I have 4 GB,that means 1GB gets wasted on a 32-bit OS
[14:27] <gangil> ?
[14:27] <Gun_Smoke> gangil: yes
[14:27] <Gun_Smoke> look
[14:27] <Gun_Smoke> free -m
 thanks a lot buddy . but now i m confuesed a little bit isn't it 4byte(32 bit) = 4gb ? why 3 gb?
[14:28] <Polarina> gangil: Yes.
[14:28] <uhok> legend2440, do you have any idea why, after doing everything right I am unable to compile this stupid program?
[14:28] <gangil> +1 thee
[14:28] <gangil> even I wanna know
[14:28] <Halitech> uhok, see here ... http://www.partimage.org/Partimage-FAQ
[14:29] <KGodwin> thee_,gangil: Hardware addressing, etc. eats up some of that extra space. I think you actually get 3.2 GBish actually.
[14:29] <tel0s> thee_: afaik the system has to set asid your VRAM into the allocated space, and hardware addressing takes up some too
[14:29] <tel0s> KGodwin: faster than me ;)
[14:29] <KGodwin> tel0s: I have my moments I suppose. ;)
[14:30] <gangil> I also notice that in linux , swap is never used , although the system allocates it at the time of installaion
[14:30] <tel0s> anyone experience in using AwesomeWM?
[14:30] <tel0s> gangil: its similar to a pagefile on an M$ system. It's generally only used when your ram is struggling.
[14:30] <gangil> Infact the Memory usage on my system never goes beyond 1GB when I m on ubuntu
[14:30] <uhok> Halitech, what do you recommend in replacement?
[14:30] <KGodwin> gangil: Swap does get used, just rarely if you have enough RAM.
[14:30] <spsneo> !ff35
[14:31] <tel0s> gangil: that's nothing to complain about ;)
[14:31] <Halitech> uhok, there is a live cd version you could try
[14:31] <kbp> thee: actually you need to add up all the memory (i.e. graphics card + mainboard + hdd cache + ram... and all of them must be less than 4GB, thats why your ram will be around 3-3.2GB depend on each machine)
[14:31] <gangil> So there is no point to have more then 2GB ram if u wanna run linux , as more than that would be a waste I think , right?
[14:31] <uhok> Halitech, Besides the live cd?
[14:31] <tel0s> gangil: I'm currently using 8 GB.
[14:31] <Gun_Smoke> gangil: no
[14:32] <Halitech> uhok, not really
[14:32] <Gun_Smoke> gangil: I have 4G max in this laptop.
 <tel0s> i ll chek what you meant "hardware addressing". anyway thanks a lot!!
[14:32] <tel0s> wow, awesomeWM is difficult to get into >.<
[14:32] <esb> gangli .. You should know that you can't have enough ram ;)
[14:32] <KGodwin> gangil: I have 8GB. I usually have a minimum of 1 GB in use. Sometimes, I use all 8.
[14:33] <ims> Has anyone here able to view webcam in Yahoo IM?
[14:33] <tel0s> anyone know how to rotate the programs allocated to each tile in AwesomeWM?
[14:33] <gangil> KGodwin: when does you have 8 GB ram in use?
[14:33] <gangil> s/does/do
[14:34] <esb> member:identifier:kgodwin I have 16gb ram and it's great for filetransfers ..  it sucks for hibernation tough
[14:34] <destiEee> hi, has anyone tried to compile firefox 3.5?
[14:34]  * gangil is planning to buy a laptop in coming days , so want to know about these stuff :)
[14:34] <tel0s> !ff35
[14:35] <KGodwin> gangil: I sometimes write really really crappy programs to perform a task because it is faster for me to code the task than do it by hand. Sometimes when running VirtualBox I need to give it a good chunk of the RAM. Etc.
[14:35] <esb> member:identifier:destieee Yes, but I ****** up adobe flash dependencies ..
[14:35] <gangil> I think even 2 GB is enough for me!
[14:36] <destiEee> i'm stuck @ configure with configure: error: Your compiler does not follow the C++ specification for temporary object destruction order.
[14:36] <Morian> Hi, I have a problem with twinview (1440x900 on my main screen and 1900x1200 on the secondary screen), It seems to work but I can't move my cursor out of the 1440x900 box :/
[14:36] <Gun_Smoke> gangil: thee_ http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/07/21/3092070.aspx
[14:36] <tel0s> anyone know the keybind to close a window in awesome?
[14:36] <SandGorgon> gangil, try to open a 300mb excel file (yes they exist) on 2gb RAM !
[14:37] <kbp> anyone know how to check the version of a package from repository without apt-get install it?
[14:37] <Deathstar87> hi
[14:37] <Juppp> SandGorgon, what is this "excel" you talk about?
[14:37] <jpbaao_> Attempting to boot LiveCD hangs on the splash screen so i installed using the alternate CD.  It seems to hang at the same spot, with the following output
[14:37] <setuid> How do I completely purge any and all avahi packages/dependencies, without ripping out 1/3 of my installed system?
[14:37] <gangil> Juppp: MS excel!!
[14:37] <esb> SandGorgon ... or a 500-1000mb Gimp-file.. ;)
[14:38] <Juppp> gangil, i know :) j/k
[14:38] <jpbaao_> "unable to execute '/sbin/getty/' for tty1 no such file or directory"
[14:38] <Deathstar87> who has, ar5b91 atheros driver ? or ath9k driver?
[14:38] <setuid> Deathstar87, madwifi does
[14:38] <Axz> Guys whats best proxy scanner?
[14:38] <Jahithber> ubuntu doesnt detects my iCH10 intel RAID 1
[14:38] <Jahithber> so baddddddd
[14:39] <Axz> for Linux or Ubuntu
[14:39] <gangil> SandGorgon: What happens if I do that , it wont open , or take long?
[14:39] <Jahithber> for ubuntu
[14:39] <Jahithber> on opensuse freebsd pcbsd works perfectly
[14:39] <starenka> just noob q: will be firefox in hardy repos or not?
[14:39] <starenka> i mean firefox 3.5 of course
[14:39] <indus> starenka: yes i think
[14:39] <gangil> !ff35
[14:39] <unr3a1> hey all
[14:40] <gangil> I am lovin it!:)
[14:40] <SandGorgon> gangil, ur disk starts swapping badly since ur other programs (including firefox) take up a lot of memory as well
[14:40] <thee_> "For example, the 32-bit version of Windows Server 2008 Standard supports only 4GB, while the 32-bit Windows Server 2008 Datacenter supports 64GB."
[14:40] <logic> hey is it possible to install a distro directly from the desktop instead of burning it into a cd or a usb stick???
[14:40] <tel0s> gangil: if i had £1 for everytime !ff35 got typed in an average day at the moment....
[14:40] <unr3a1> I installed firefox-3.5, but i cannot run it from the applications menu.  I have to run it from terminal.  then when I run it, it says that the name of the program is Shiretoko.  Does anyone know what this is?
[14:41] <starenka> gangil: asking for hardy,
[14:41] <tel0s> logic: wubi installer does what you require.
[14:41] <starenka> gangil: NOT hardy++ whatever
[14:41] <logic> tel0s: isn't wubi installer the program for win? does it work in ubuntu too??
[14:41] <Pici> unr3a1: the version of firefox-3.5 in the repositories currently is the *beta*, its codename is Shiretoko
[14:41] <unr3a1> oh ok
[14:41] <tel0s> logic: im unsure. there may be a buntu equivalent.
[14:42] <unr3a1> Pici... any idea when it will be non-beta in the repositories, and I will be able to replace my firefox 3.0.11 install with 3.5?
[14:42] <logic> tel0s: could you help me to look for it or for some alternative?
[14:42] <indus> logic:what do you want to do exactly
[14:42] <tel0s> logic: one moment.
[14:42] <gangil> SandGorgon: what do you do ? just like that
[14:43] <Pici> unr3a1: When testing is completed, and no. You will need to use the firefox-3.5 package, we arent replacing the ff-3.0 package with 3.5
[14:43] <uhok> Halitech, maybe you can help me. I'm just trying to sync files once in awhile. But it's a lot. And when I tried Grsync it kept getting stuck on .lost+found
[14:43] <thee_> by the way firefox is deadly slow on ubuntu. i hope they will solve..
[14:43] <logic> indus: i'd like to install Fluxbuntu in my pc, and now i am running the normal ubuntu.. i would love to use a light WM.. so i prefer installing a pre-installed distro:)
[14:43] <indus> Pici: what do you mean 'we'
[14:43] <indus> Pici: from what i know, firefox 3.0.11 will become ff 3.5
[14:44] <SandGorgon> gangil, I have had to look on some financial data, which comes bundled in large excel files... I do open them on OO tho
[14:44] <indus> Pici: in jaunty at least
[14:44] <tel0s> logic: Fluxbuntu is just ubuntu with flux installed, just sudo apt-get install fluxbox and change your session at the login screen
[14:44] <nightdrever> whats the best game for ubuntu which doesnt concentrate on 3d......its just i cant get my graphics card to work
[14:44] <jpbaao_> anyone have any idea on my boot issue?
[14:44] <Pici> indus: Where did you get that information?
[14:44] <indus> Pici: well all day inside this channel
[14:44] <indus> Pici: where are you getting your information?
[14:44] <gangil> SandGorgon: :) nice
[14:44] <indus> !ff3.5
[14:44] <jaapvisser> hi all I have a lot op .psd (windows / photoshop) files I am wondering if there is a image viewer / file browser for Linux / Ubuntu which can view these files.
[14:45] <logic> tel0s: what i'm looking for is not exactly fluxbox.... i'm looking for ubuntu with the fluxbox wm... and i'm not so good at geeky things.. so i prefer to be cautious and just install the preinstalled distro..
[14:45] <unr3a1> Pici.. so FF 3.5 is going to remain a different package from FF 3.0.11?
[14:45] <Pici> indus: The ubuntu mozillateam
[14:45] <indus> Pici: hmm thats funny, why do we need 2 diff firefox in jaunty? are we crazy ?
[14:45] <Halitech> uhok, never really done anything with syncing files so no idea
[14:46] <Pici> indus: There are two different versions in Jaunty already
[14:46] <tel0s> logic: im unsure what you're saying: you say you don't want fluxbox, you're looking for ubuntu with teh fluxbox wm, which is exactly what you'll get if you install it from the repos.
[14:46] <unr3a1> Pici: why are they doing it that way?  Why not replace 3.0.11 with 3.5?
[14:46] <Halitech> jaapvisser, GIMP should open psd files
[14:46] <logic> tel0s: hang on a sec.. could we talk in pvt?
[14:47] <indus> Pici: the packagers are crazy are they? all day in this channel, i was told it will become the official package in jaunty
[14:47] <indus> baah nvm now
[14:47] <tel0s> logic: user's on this channel aren't supposed to pvt....
[14:47] <jaapvisser> @Halitech I know but I only want to browse quickly through them.
[14:47] <deany> jaapvisser, default image viewer or gthumb should be enough
[14:47] <setuid> jaapvisser, This isn't twitter
[14:47] <unr3a1> I am confused, why are they keeping 3.0.11 separate from 3.5?
[14:47] <rudeboy_xix> is there anyone here who knows how to configure openswan?
[14:47] <setuid> unr3a1, different codebases
[14:47] <indus> so , what only karmic users get the new ff as official release?
[14:48] <ptrm> i dont have a write access on /dev/sda7. how to give a permission?
[14:48] <setuid> indus, No, just grab it from mozilla.org and install it in /opt/
[14:48] <Jessehk> Does Rhythmbox support album-art for ipods? I backported to Amarok 1.4 but I'm fed up.
[14:48] <jaapvisser> okey deany will look at gthumb.
[14:48] <setuid> ptrm, be root
[14:48] <Halitech> jaapvisser, other then GIMP I haven;t heard any but deany thinks the default or gthumb will work
[14:48] <Pici> setuid: The firefox-3.5 package will be updated to be the final version in Jaunty
[14:48] <DJones> unr3a1: Not everybody will want to upgrade, some people may have a reason to stay on an older and in theory, more stable version
[14:48] <jaapvisser> tnx..
[14:48] <rudeboy_xix> ptrm, you have to mount it
[14:48] <indus> this is disappointing indeed
[14:48] <ptrm> rudeboy_xix:  it is mounted.
[14:48] <unr3a1> thats wierd
[14:48] <Juppp>  ptrm, what are you trying to do to /dev/sda7?
[14:48] <unr3a1> when 3.0 was released it replaced the old 2.x version
[14:49] <indus> DJones: firefox is not stable at all with 3.0.... and 3.5 aims to fix most of those issues
[14:49] <rudeboy_xix> then you have to be root
[14:49] <soreau> ptrm: You need to access the place to where it is mounted, not the device node
[14:49] <ptrm> Juppp: i'm trying to change /boot/grub/menu.lst on /dev/sda7
[14:49] <indus> Pici: i was under the impression FF 3.1 is renamed to 3.5 (read taht from mozilla devs)
[14:49] <gangil> Gun_Smoke: where can I get that info for ubuntu , the blog you directed me to explains the *windows* way
[14:50] <rudeboy_xix> yah, soreau is right
[14:50] <indus> gtg bye
[14:50] <Juppp> ptrm, try editing the file as root
[14:50] <ptrm> i can see the files on file manager but cant write on it.
[14:50] <Pici> indus: From Ubuntu or from Mozilla?
[14:50] <ptrm> Juppp: cant i do it as user?
[14:51] <gartral> my systems hard drive is failing... anyon know where i can get a newish IDE drive?
[14:51] <Juppp> ptrm, try "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" from the terminal
[14:51] <Juppp> ptrm, no you won't be able to do it as user.
[14:51] <iceroot> !gksudo | Juppp
[14:51] <ptrm> Juppp: but it is on /dev/sda7. i'm on /dev/sda5 right now.
[14:51] <wok> hi guys. When starting up the LiveCD for ubuntu 9.x, i select to try ubuntu, but then the screen freezes on "Loading, please wait.." while my keyboard lights flash. Is there a way to see any logs/startup messages to see whats going wrong?
[14:51] <rudeboy_xix> ptrm, use terminal
[14:51] <soreau> gardar: newegg or tiger direct might be a good start. google.com is your friend
[14:52] <soreau> ptrm: Use the terminal and open the file with your favorite text editor with sudo. You will need to know to where /dev/sda7 is mounted though
[14:52] <iceroot> wok: ctrl + alt + f1
[14:52] <jaapvisser> deany and halitech tested gthumb which is a nice file browser sad enhough my CS4 .psd files are not displayed >:(
[14:52] <DJones> Pici: This is probably what indus was referring to re the firefox name change https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2009/03/06/shiretoko-to-be-named-firefox-35/
[14:52] <iceroot> wok: should show you the messages
[14:52] <twig11> Why would both Ubuntu and Xubuntu drop me to a text prompt without any error message when I try to boot from the Desktop CD? I'm using a disc I just burned, the checksum was good on the ISO, the disc is verified. I'm trying to get Ubuntu or at least Xubuntu installed on an older generic PC for a friend. It's got 512 Mb RAM and a 1GHz AMD processor.
[14:52] <slipttees> where can i get firefox 3.5 for ubuntu hardy
[14:53] <soreau> twig11: Which gpu?
[14:53] <baba_b00ie> where do i find my boot logs ? (ubuntu 810 64bit)
[14:53] <wok> iceroot, trying now. im presuming that will work before the loader even starts?
[14:53] <gartral> twig11: what gfx card do oyu have?
[14:53] <twig11> soreau: I'm not sure. how do I find out?
[14:53] <iceroot> wok: dont know
[14:53] <tel0s> twig11: it seems your graphics settings weren't detected properly.
[14:53] <soreau> twig11: lspci|grep VGA
[14:53] <tel0s> twig11: lspci
[14:53] <C-S-B> wok: try remove splash and quiet from the kernel boot line
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> soreau: if you use grep -i   it makes it case insensitive ;)
[14:54] <soreau> ActionParsnip: And?
[14:54] <C-S-B> wok: that way you can see where its failing
[14:54] <soreau> ActionParsnip: grepping for VGA is completely sufficient for this application
[14:54] <wok> Ok, will try that now
[14:54] <C-S-B> wok: also when booting try turning acpi off, that seems to be a boot stopper for me sometimes
[14:55] <twig11> soreau: is that command formatted exactly the way I should type it?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> soreau: just letting you know as if you get users who type instead of copy / pasting then it wont find it
[14:55] <soreau> twig11: yes
[14:55] <papul> how do i play mp3 in ubuntu
[14:55] <AakashPatel> hi, i have a modem/faxmodem in a pci slot
[14:55] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Ahh.. shame for them :)
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> soreau: just a friendly point, tahts all
[14:55] <baba_b00ie> i have a problem with 64bit ubuntu 810, when i start my machine it starts to boot, displays boot logo, but unless i push random keys on the kb ubuntu hangs
[14:55] <AakashPatel> how would i figure out what name it would be in /dev/?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> soreau: indeed shame for them ;)
[14:55] <deany> jaapvisser,  weird, I thought they would of.. Try gwenview, its a kde app so will need extra packages installed
[14:55] <kabboo> hey when i play any soundtrack the volume is very low
[14:55] <kabboo> i need help
[14:55] <AakashPatel> im trying to setup hylafax
[14:56] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I don't usually think in noob mode, so thanks for that reasoning
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> kabboo: launch  your volume mixer and crank the sliders
[14:56] <jpbaao_> booting my system with a fresh install is hanging
[14:56] <wok> hmm, i dont see any errors when it freezes
[14:56] <Juppp> h
[14:56] <Dekko> Hello, can someone please tell me how to slow down my DVD-burner when watching movies. I have tried 'hdparm -E 2 /dev/sr0 and it says it sets the speed but nothing happens.
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> soreau: its hard to noob mode sometimes, real frustrating but its needed :(
[14:56] <jaapvisser> deany will see if gwenview will work >;0
[14:57] <twig11> soreau: I just get "not found"
[14:57] <wok> last message is Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input4, then freezes with keyboard lights flashing
[14:57] <wok> any ideas?
[14:57] <soreau> twig11: When typing 'lspci' without quotes?
[14:57] <papul> how do i install mp3 codec in ubuntu?
[14:57] <setuid> papul, you don't, don't use mp3s
[14:58] <Gun_Smoke> gangil: have a look at google.. like bigmem 32bit etc... you'll find something.. better yet search google.com/linux
[14:58] <C-S-B> wok: try booting with another keyboard?
[14:58] <soreau> papna: Install ubuntu-restricted-modules iirc
[14:58] <Thingymebob> !restricted | papul
[14:58] <wok> C-S-B, this is just a standard keyboard though :/ will see if i have a spare though..
[14:58] <h4f> hi all
[14:59] <twig11> soreau: "ell-es-pee-see-eye?"
[14:59] <wok> it wouldnt be the BIOS setting to set num-lock upon boot will it?
[14:59] <soreau> twig11: correct
[14:59] <deany> jaapvisser, hangon
[14:59] <jaapvisser> sure
[14:59] <deany> jaapvisser, im trying something called libgdk-pixbuf2
[14:59] <maris> mickster04: supergrub didthe job :)
[14:59] <h4f> how do I properly uninstall deb packages  downloaded from web or other sources ?
[14:59] <Dekko> can someone help?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Dekko
[15:00] <twig11> soreau: that's how I typed it. (It's on a different computer and I can't cut and paste)
[15:00] <h4f> !ask
[15:00] <Juppp> h4f, use synaptic and search for the package
[15:00] <soreau> twig11: And it says command not found? If it's xubuntu you have to install it.. lemme see which package it's found in
[15:00] <ubuntuUSR> how to activate ubuntu recovery screen /blue box/
[15:00] <ubuntuUSR> ?
[15:01] <soreau> twig11: apt-get install pciutils
[15:01] <Thingymebob> h4f; they normally appear in synaptic  (status - installed local or obsolete)
[15:01] <h4f> Juppp: ok thanks . how do I properly uninstall compiled from source package ?
[15:01] <twig11> soreau: I haven't installed anything yet. I'm trying to do the initial boot.
[15:01] <optimarcusprime> Has anyone upgraded to Firefox 3.5 on 8.10 yet?  What's the best way to go about doing it?
[15:01] <Juppp>  h4f, "make uninstall" in the directory were you built the source
[15:01] <gangil> thanks Gun_Smoke I didnt know that part of google :)
[15:02] <ptrm> Juppp, rudeboy_xix, soreau: Can't i edit it on filemanager as root?
[15:02] <soreau> ptrm: Yes, though I wouldn't recommend it
[15:02] <h4f>  Juppp: ok. where should I install my packages. usually I drop everything on desktop
[15:02] <ubuntuUSR> how to save ubuntu log when it`s starts?
[15:03] <Juppp> h4f, deb packages?
[15:03] <gh0stp> okay semi-emergency here, i have to leave to base in less than 3 days, and i have a media storage drive hooked up to my ubuntu 9.04 system, being served through various means. the drive type is FAT32, but the file system keeps jumping to read only!!!!! re-formatting isnt an option as there are hundreds of gigs worth of stuff on there. if it helps, this only started after i installed gtkpod. please help me! its not often i come in here and
[15:03] <gh0stp> beg!
[15:03] <setuid> ubuntuUSR, /var/log/dmesg?
[15:03] <papul> i want a good download manager for ubuntu
[15:03] <ptrm> soreau: Please just tell me how ?
[15:03] <setuid> gh0stp, You can't have "hundreds of gigs" on FAT32
[15:03] <h4f> Juppp: deb are installing automaticly. I am talking about compiled from source one
[15:03] <setuid> gh0stp, Just check the fs with fsck.vfat
[15:03] <solar-ubuntu> MultiGet, seems the best file downloader in ubuntu at present
[15:04] <soreau> twig11: Well, you can install in text mode, but it's likely when you boot it you'll still have the same problem.. which is your graphics chipset driver is not working properly. So, I'd recommend using the vesa video driver which is the 'justworks' driver. You have to put Driver "vesa" in the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:04] <h4f> Juppp: where is the standart place for them
[15:04] <soreau> ptrm: You still haven't revealed to where /dev/sda7 is mounted
[15:04] <gh0stp> setuid: what is fsck.vfat and how do i run it?
[15:04] <setuid> gh0stp, man fsck.vfat
[15:04] <Juppp> h4f, "make install" will put them in the right place
[15:04] <ubuntuUSR> setuid: is it current? i mean it can`t be old one?
[15:04] <twig11> soreau: is that something a novice can do with the right coaching?
[15:05] <twig11> : )
[15:05] <h4f> Juppp: and then I can delete the folder from where I do make install ?
[15:05] <soreau> twig11: I guess.. yea
[15:05] <soreau> but I have to go to work here after while
[15:05] <twig11> soreau: that's me.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> gh0stp: i'd run it from a live cd environment
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> gh0stp: its needed if you are checking your root fs
[15:05] <setuid> ActionParsnip, his rootfs can't be FAT32, so that's not the case
[15:05] <soreau> twig11: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf <-- run that after it's loaded to the live command prompt
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> gh0stp: if its a removable storage its fine in the booted system
[15:05] <Juppp> h4f, yes but if you do then you won't be able to uninstall (I think)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> setuid: given
[15:06] <Ddorda> hello. how do i add the logout session to the Alt+Ctrl+Del window?
[15:06] <h4f>  Juppp: hm. looks a bit weird for me.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> gh0stp: you'll need    sudo fsck.vfat /dev/<disk name.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> gh0stp: sudo fdisk -l     will show you the disk names
[15:06] <soreau> twig11: If you're using Jaunty, it will likely have a Device section, but no Driver line so you would add: Driver "vesa"
[15:06] <Ddorda> i think i saw it once on ubuntu site, but can't find it now...
[15:06] <deany> jaapvisser, ok didnt work.. i`m trying krita.  Cant you just convert them?
[15:06] <_talon> hello, does somebody here know about sshfs?
[15:07] <twig11> soreau: sorry, can you put the whole command in quotes?
[15:07] <soreau> twig11: No, it's not that simple
[15:07] <``Cube> when is ubuntu 8.10 going to adapt firefox 3.5?
[15:07] <joaopinto> !ff
[15:08] <soreau> twig11: There is a series of commands and actions you have to perform
[15:08] <``Cube> !firefox-3.5
[15:08] <ubuntuUSR> if i`d like paste log which web page is prefferd?
[15:08] <Halitech> ``Cube, probably won't see it in 8.10
[15:08] <joaopinto> !pastebin | ubuntuUSR
[15:08] <``Cube> Halitech: crap
[15:08] <soreau> twig11: Is the machine on which you're loading the live cd connected to the net?
[15:08] <gangil> Which is the fastest browser on ubuntu firefox/opera/chrome ?
[15:08] <Spike1506> firefox
[15:08] <joaopinto> ``Cube, language
[15:08] <Spike1506> imo
[15:08] <twig11> soreau: I understand that. I just wanted to make sure I got the initial command right.
[15:08] <joaopinto> !best | gangil
[15:08] <``Cube> Halitech: I got easy peasy, which doesn't let me install 9.04
[15:08] <twig11> soreau: no I'm not connected on that machine.
[15:09] <``Cube> joaopinto: cry me a river
[15:09] <ptrm> soreau: how to reveal ?
[15:09] <Halitech> ``Cube, if you want it, you'll have to install it manually from the mozilla site
[15:09] <jaapvisser> deany the gdk-pixbuf lib is just a library ..... indeed maybe i can better make a simple batch to convert them to a easier format....  maybe test something with wine
[15:09] <ubuntuUSR> ok thanx
[15:09] <soreau> twig11: Oh ok then "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and it would ease things if you were connected
[15:09] <soreau> ptrm: mount
[15:09] <ubuntuUSR> i hope i`ll paste log over there someone is help me out
[15:09] <soreau> ptrm: Just type 'mount' without quotes in your terminal
[15:09] <``Cube> Halitech: yeah, got that. thanks
[15:10] <papul> i am having problems with translation_en_in
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> gangil: firpup is fast, or swiftfox
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> gangil: firefox stock is pretty slow but is getting better
[15:10] <twig11> soreau: I don't have any way of getting it online at the moment. I'm on a wireless network and no wired available in this building. Running the command now...
[15:10] <_talon> can sshfs be used with corkscrew?
[15:10] <deany> jaapvisser, imagemagick can batch convert
[15:10] <ptrm> soreau: it is /media/disk
[15:11] <twig11> soreau: wierd. "sudo: not found"
[15:11] <jaapvisser> yeah I believe even gimp can do the job...
[15:11] <soreau> ptrm: In that case you need to run 'gksudo gedit /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst'
[15:11] <soreau> twig11: ugh, which live cd is this?
[15:11] <ptrm> soreau: that's good, thank you!
[15:11] <``Cube> joaopinto: crying yet?
[15:11] <deany> jaapvisser, the pixbuf thing is aso the name of something someone was/is making for eog/gthumb to handle psd files.. I thought maybe it was that.
[15:12] <twig11> soreau: you understand I'm at the BusyBox v1.10.2 command prompt?
[15:12] <soreau> twig11: Uhm..... no
[15:12] <kabboo> hey my volume in ubuntu is very low
[15:12] <soreau> twig11: You said ubuntu or xubuntu
[15:12] <kabboo> i need help
[15:12] <soreau> kabboo: Try running 'alsamixer' from your terminal
[15:12] <deany> jaapvisser, works.  http://code.google.com/p/gdk-pixbuf-psd/
[15:12] <twig11> soreau: I've got xubuntu 9.04 Desktop CD in now.
[15:12] <h4f> does any body know. is it possible  to run 2 or more apt-get at the same time ? or at least put requests in a queue ?
[15:13] <_talon> kaboo: alsamixer
[15:13] <_talon> h4f: for i in 1 2 3 4; do apt-get xxxx; done
[15:13] <Pici> h4f: No and why not do: apt-get install package1 package2 package3 etc?
[15:13] <h4f> _talon: but usually I browse. then install. then I found something new and again.
[15:14] <``Cube> twig11: what's busybox?
[15:14] <h4f> Pici: cause (17:13:58)
[15:14] <jaapvisser> looks great >:) the google gdk-pixbuf ...  looking how to hook it up with a default gthumb now
[15:14] <Pici> h4f: Well you're out of luck then, sorry.
[15:14] <soreau> twig11: Well.. you need to install sudo or get to a root shell.. why in the heck are you using busy box?
[15:14] <twig11> soreau:
[15:15] <twig11> oops
[15:15] <jpbaao_> I am not able to boot a a fresh install of xubuntu on my desktop.  It also won't boot the live install CD
[15:15] <kabboo> thank you soreau so much
[15:16] <soreau> jpbaao_: What are the cpu specs and where does it get stuck at?
[15:16] <papul> how do i play games using wine that require directx?
[15:16] <soreau> kabboo: no problem
[15:16] <soreau> ! wine | papul
[15:16] <twig11> soreau: I need instructions on how to do that. BusyBox is where I get dropped when I'm trying to boot from the Desktop CD. I get the language menu, then the boot and install options, then the Xubuntu splash screen for about a minute, then the BusyBox command prompt. What should I be doing different?
[15:16] <soreau> twig11: Not using xubuntu? :P
[15:16]  * Dekko got eject -t -x 2 for slowing down DVD playback, but is there a way to make it "permanent"?
[15:16] <SirFunk> is firefox 3.5 final coming to the jaunty repos soon?
[15:17] <anomymous> i installed a 32 bit version of ubuntu intrepid on my dual core machine, can i change it from inside my current os?
[15:17] <SandGorgon> !ff35 > SirFunk
[15:17] <PerryArmstrong> hey i have done an UML diagram in Umbrello, and i want to paste the diagram into openoffice, which i am unable to do using copy paste...does anyone have any idea how i can get it..
[15:17] <jpbaao_> soreau: it sticks on "unable to execute '/sbin/getty' for tty1 no such file or directory"
[15:17] <soreau> twig11: I don't understand why they don't have pciutils and sudo installed by default at the very least :/
[15:17] <twig11> soreau: There's no linux installed on the system now, if that's what you're asking.
[15:17] <Gun_Smoke> gangil: no problem..
[15:17] <soreau> twig11: No, I'm just getting frustrated with xubuntu
[15:17] <SirFunk> SandGorgon: ahh, ok, so soon.. i just installed it (i think from the universe repo?) and it installed b4?
[15:18] <SirFunk> will the final be named firefox? or firefox-3.5 instead of shiretoko?
[15:18] <soreau> twig11: Try 'su' without quotes
[15:18] <h4f> allow multiple apt-get http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5212/ . will it goes ever implemented ?
[15:18] <twig11> soreau: just su?
[15:18] <soreau> yes
[15:18] <twig11> soreau: not found
[15:18] <Pici> h4f: Probably not
[15:18] <soreau> wow
[15:18] <anomymous> can i change my 32 bit ubuntu intrepid into 64 bit without reinstalling?
[15:18] <solar-ubuntu> use " sudo su "instead
[15:18] <Halitech> anomymous, no
[15:19] <twig11> solar-ubuntu: sudo: not found
[15:19] <jpbaao_> soreau: compaq d220, 1.24 gig ram, 30 and 40 gig HD, NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 400
[15:19] <PerryArmstrong> hey i have done an UML diagram in Umbrello, and i want to paste the diagram into openoffice, which i am unable to do using copy paste...does anyone have any idea how i can get it..
[15:19] <soreau> twig11: Well I don't know what's going on then, you might try #xubuntu to see why it doesn't have sudo installed by default. Otherwise, use ubuntu (which has pciutils and sudo installed by default)
[15:19] <h4f>  Pici: :( . ok other question. Did you use new feature. It is related to update the kernel without reboot
[15:19] <Pici> SirFunk: shiretoko is the beta codename of Firefox. Please see the message from ubottu regarding the details.
[15:19] <SandGorgon> SirFunk, it should not be firefox-3.5 .. it should be plain ole "firefox" .. that happens when the overlords decide
[15:19] <deany> anomymous, might be able to keep your home folder (ifts on its own partition) tho to save setting the apps up
[15:19] <twig11> soreau: you understand I'm still at the BusyBox command prompt?
[15:19] <soreau> jpbaao_: What about the cpu?
[15:19] <soreau> twig11: I do now
[15:19] <Pici> h4f: I'm not sure I understand your question.
[15:19] <deany> or maybe i`m wrong.  ive never had 64bit in my life
[15:20] <twig11> soreau: I'll put the Ubuntu CD in now and we can start over if you want.
[15:20] <robin> anyone can really help me
[15:20] <anomymous> ok, can i install a new 64 bit version on an usb-stick?
[15:20] <soreau> twig11: I have to go to work in about 30 minutes
[15:20] <h4f>  Pici: http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/
[15:20] <Halitech> twig11, sounds to me like something isn't being detected properly, possibly the video card
[15:20] <jpbaao_> soreau: sorry, u did ask that... celeron 2.4Ghz
[15:20] <twig11> soreau: no prob, thanks for all the help.
[15:21] <robin> i hust install ubuntu but when in desktop i only got a half scree
[15:21] <robin> i just install ubuntu but when in desktop i only got a half scree
[15:21] <robin> anyone can really help me
[15:21] <anomymous> can i install a new 64 bit version with usb device as intermedium?
[15:21] <Ddorda> hello. how do i add the logout session to the Alt+Ctrl+Del window?
[15:21] <h4f> robin: try change resolution
[15:21] <LogicalGhost> <-- Newb with wireless problems is back again, Hi all
[15:21] <Pici> h4f: Thats not a feature developed or currently supported by Ubuntu, you'd need to speak to ksplice about it.
[15:21] <soreau> jpbaao_: Then it should be loading..
[15:21] <unr3a1> hey all, i am trying to run the update manager, and I am getting this error:  http://pastebin.com/m7e3a7dbb
[15:22] <bullgard4> Trying to unmount an USB stick, Disk Mounter 2.26.1 complaints: "Cannot unmount volume. An application is preventing the volume 'Cruizer1' from being unmounted". How can I determine what application that is?
[15:22] <h4f> Pici: thanks :)
[15:22] <ExMachina> any idea when firefox 3.5 will be in the main repos?
[15:22] <Pici> ExMachina: When it is done being tested, no eta yet.
[15:22] <Halitech> unr3a1, did you run it as sudo?
[15:22] <robin> anyone can help how come i cant get a full screen destop all i get is a center destop which black at e side
[15:22] <robin> anyone can help how come i cant get a full screen destop all i get is a center destop which black at e side
[15:22] <Ddorda> how do i change the logout options dialog back to what it was on ubuntu 810?
[15:22] <Pici> !patience | robin
[15:22] <LogicalGhost> So I installed ndisgtk but when I selected my inf file and hit "install" it has frozen
[15:22] <unr3a1> ExMachina, from what I understand, it wont be.  it will not be replacing 3.0.x.  It will simply be installed along side it
[15:22] <jpbaao_> soreau: live cd just freezes, and tty processes terminate with status 225
[15:23] <Pici> !ff35 > ExMachina
[15:23] <ExMachina> unr3a1, um, why?
[15:23] <soreau> jpbaao_: That's no right at all :p
[15:23] <unr3a1> Halitech, my update icon in my task bar is a red circle with a black line through it.  and I get that error when I click on it
[15:23] <unr3a1> ExMachina, no idea
[15:23] <PerryArmstrong> hey i have done an UML diagram in Umbrello, and i want to paste the diagram into openoffice for the purpose of documentation, which i am unable to do using copy paste...does anyone have any idea how i can get it..
[15:23] <Halitech> unr3a1, try updating from the terminal?
[15:23] <Pici> ExMachina: Because Ubuntu strives for stability, not latest updates.
[15:23] <oldude67> bullgard4: was that with sudo at the start?
[15:23] <jpbaao_> soreau: it isn't helping win my wife away from that other OS
[15:23] <bullgard4> Yes.
[15:23] <ExMachina> Pici, lol what? ubuntu strives for stability? that's a new one
[15:24] <bullgard4> oldude67: Yes.
[15:24] <LogicalGhost> Not sure what to do with a frozen process in Ubuntu
[15:24] <ExMachina> if i wanted stability i'd be using debian
[15:24] <robin> anyone can help how come i cant get a full screen destop all i get is a center destop which black at e side
[15:24] <soreau> jpbaao_: No doubt.. did you say this is a Jaunty live cd 9.04 and that you already ran the cd check utility?
[15:24] <ExMachina> I wouldn't be using a generic kernel that installs a million modules (eg ath5k) as well as loading proprietary ath5000
[15:24] <soreau> LogicalGhost: kill it
[15:24] <LogicalGhost> How?
[15:24] <ExMachina> (from earlier versions of ubuntu)
[15:24] <jpbaao_> soreau: tried the live CD on the laptop I'm on now and it works fine.  did run cd check and it checks out
[15:24] <Pici> ExMachina: We really rarely update package mid-release anyway
[15:25] <subzero2000> Does anyone know if keyserver.ubuntu.com is down, and where it should be reported if it is?
[15:25] <LogicalGhost> soreau, how?
[15:25] <roffe> could someone help me install a vpn-service called Relakks on ubuntu?
[15:25] <unr3a1> Halitech, I already did, but the update icon in the task bar is that red circle with the black minus sign.
[15:25]  * WeEeE __doc__ sei un lamer!
[15:25] <jpbaao_> soreau: it is xubuntu Jaunty, but i've tried kub and ub with the sane result...
[15:25] <Jck_true__> How can I force which repo the package is comming from? I need the ffmpeg package from the Multiverse :-(
[15:25] <ExMachina> Pici, except the update manager is always peskering me about updating this package blah blah blah
[15:25] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Which process is it?
[15:25] <soreau> jpbaao_: You mean s/sabe/same
[15:25] <soreau> d'oh
[15:25] <soreau> jpbaao_: You mean s/sane/same
[15:25] <LogicalGhost> soreau: ndisgtk . . . I think?
[15:26] <``Cube> joaopinto: ping
[15:26] <unr3a1> ExMachina, Ubuntu is extrememly stable
[15:26] <LogicalGhost> I downloaded it from the documentation site
[15:26] <jpbaao_> soreau: same
[15:26] <Halitech> unr3a1, have you tried a reboot to see if that clears up whatever is jamming it up?
[15:26] <Pici> ExMachina: Mostly for security/high impact bugs, NOT new versions with new features.
[15:26] <roffe> can anyone help me install a vpn-service?
[15:26] <unr3a1> Halitech, not yet.. :P
[15:26] <unr3a1> lol
[15:26] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Try 'ps ax|grep ndis' to see it, then kill the process using the PID (process id) 'kill <PID>' or 'killall <process_name>'
[15:26] <Pici> subzero2000: It was really really slow for me yesterday.  I ended up trying a few times and eventually got it to respond :/
[15:27] <Halitech> unr3a1, I know its usually a windows fix but sometimes we still have to
[15:27] <LogicalGhost> soreau: So I should open up a terminal? I'll try that . .
[15:27] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[15:27] <unr3a1> Halitech, yea... alright, I will try that then
[15:27] <oldude67> bullgard4: what do you get when you go to terminal and type in apt-get update?
[15:27] <gh0stp> can someone tell me how to figure out why "sudo chmod 777 -R /media/disk/" wouldnt work?
[15:27] <soreau> jpbaao_: Not sure what's going on then. Try a different OS for testing maybe? not really sure what's going on. Maybe ask in #linux
[15:27] <subzero2000> Pici: Yeah, slow is an understatement. Having the connection timeout is usually more a sign of down rather than slow, but it's nice to know I'm not alone here ... :)
[15:27] <jpbaao_> soreau: thanks!  i'll give it a shot.
[15:28] <Zopiac> how do i make it so that my other partitions are mounted when i boot up
[15:28] <Guest6060> Zopiac: /etc/fstab?
[15:28] <LogicalGhost> soreau: I entered in that command and got six processes and I'm not sure which one it is
[15:28] <Pici> subzero2000: I'll see if I can bug someone about it
[15:28] <TwoToneSpirit> Zopiac: /etc/fstab
[15:28] <soreau> LogicalGhost: You have to figure it out
[15:28] <supersasho> hi.. how can i change the way when linux changes my cpu frequency? because on "ondemand", the load is up to 60% and it still doesn't rise the frequency
[15:29] <twig11> Why does the Ubuntu Jaunty Desktop CD keep dropping me to the BusyBox command prompt when I try to boot from the CD? Xubuntu does the same thing. I'm trying to install ubuntu for a friend on an old generic machine with 512 Mb RAM and a 1GHz processor with two hard drives, each with an illegal copy of XP Professional which has gotten pretty unstable.
[15:29] <Zopiac> Guest6060: do i just add the /dev/sdax to it? or like /dev/sdax /media/disk?
[15:29] <subzero2000> Pici: Thanks. Didn't know if there was a more appropriate room for Ubuntu issues like that or not.
[15:29] <gh0stp> can someone tell me how to figure out why "sudo chmod 777 -R /media/disk/" wouldnt work?
[15:29] <TwoToneSpirit> twig11: I had the same problem with an HP Mini 1000 - I think I ended up using the alternate CD.
[15:29] <jaapvisser> deany the gdk-pixbuf-psd does not work... will go for the batch conversion route or hook up a wine program many tnx for your help and suggestions
[15:29] <Guest6060> /dev/sdax /media/disk auto defaults 0 0
[15:30] <deany> jaapvisser, does for me..  loads in image viewer (EOG) and Gthumb
[15:30] <Zopiac> Guest6060: thanks
[15:30] <LogicalGhost> soreau: gksu /usr/sbin/ndisgtk           python /usr/sbin/ndisgtk          [ndis_wq]          [wrapndis_wq]                 grep ndis
[15:30] <jaapvisser> currently not testing from a ubuntu box >:) will try that later at home.
[15:30] <``Cube> joaopinto: ping!!!
[15:30] <soreau> LogicalGhost: I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish ultimately
[15:31] <LogicalGhost> Install a wireless driver
[15:31] <killbillkill> hi ,i want to  make fakeraid0 with 2 disk 250gb ..how good is speed from raid0 in ubuntu? "sorry for my english"
[15:31] <deany> gh0stp, sounds like an external usb drive, is it?  if so, is it actually mounted there and not made another folder called media/disk1?
[15:32] <gh0stp> deany: checking now
[15:32] <``Cube> joaopinto
[15:32] <jaapvisser> this machine had a bit newer gtk maybe that's why...
[15:32] <deany> gh0stp,  also, try unmounting it, and mounting it again after the chmod
[15:32] <soreau> LogicalGhost: What is your wifi chip listed as in the output of 'lspci'?
[15:32] <joaopinto> ``Cube, I am away
[15:32] <Xpistos|work> Morning all
[15:32] <gh0stp> deany: double checked mount point, have re-mounted it several times
[15:32] <``Cube> joaopinto: so who just answered?
[15:33] <gh0stp> deany:FS is FAT32
[15:33] <deany> gh0stp, doh! then
[15:33] <Xpistos|work> Can anyone assist me with using vncpasswd to authenticate using vncviewer from the command line
[15:33] <LogicalGhost> soreau: I really have no idea. Possibly
[15:33] <deany> gh0stp, should be able to read/write it automatically
[15:33] <djiezes> gh0stp: i reckon the linux style file permissions are not applicable to fat32 systems
[15:33] <LogicalGhost> soreau: "Modem: Intel Corporation", but it's a really old comp so it might actually be a modem and not the wireless
[15:33] <djiezes> gh0stp: but when automounted as usbdevice you have all write & read permissions, right?
[15:33] <jaapvisser> deany that's funny eog does work with the gdk-pixbuf-psd .... that's great!
[15:34] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Is it a PCI card or what?
[15:34] <gh0stp> i can but many other utilities and programs cannot, IE: apache,the chmod command xD also intermitantly it will cahnge to a "read only file system"
[15:34] <deany> gh0stp, is it possible to format it again?  sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/whatever  and try remounting it.. if not, format to ext
[15:35] <deany> jaapvisser, does with gthumb too
[15:35] <LogicalGhost> soreau: There's a PCI bridge . . . two entries like that, would that be it? ISA? IDE? SMBus?
[15:35] <Starbucks> Hey guys how do I configuer Grub to stop giving me an grub error 22 message? Or remove it completely please? I want to install windows 7 on a drive that previously had ubuntu.
[15:35] <pop> hehe
[15:35] <Starbucks> I have win 7 BETA on the other drive.
[15:35] <deany> jaapvisser, gthumb is more of a acdsee type viewer.
[15:35] <jaapvisser> well not with my gthumb yet but it solved the problem....
[15:35] <``Cube> Starbucks: lol
[15:35] <soreau> LogicalGhost: In the lspci output it should be apparent which one it is
[15:35] <Halitech> Starbucks, you'll need to repair the MBR with windows
[15:35] <Starbucks> How could I do that please?
[15:35] <gh0stp> formatting is out of the Question outright, it needs to be fat32 due to my PS3, and it has 500GB of 700mb movies on it
[15:36] <Starbucks> ``Cube: Why 'lol'?
[15:36] <``Cube> Starbucks: why not?
[15:36] <roffe> any help with vpn?
[15:36] <deany> gh0stp, ok.  well there is no need to do chmod on it, because fat32 does not support linux permissions.  you shouldnt need to do anything really.  just plug it in and go
[15:36] <gh0stp> ive ran checks on it and repaired any errors, for now its just straight up permissions
[15:36] <Halitech> Starbucks, boot from the windows cd and go into the recovery option and run fixmbr
[15:36] <LogicalGhost> soreau: You're assuming I have some idea about what I'm doing . . .
[15:37] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Yes, I do now
[15:37] <gh0stp> hmmmm. any idea why apache wouldnt be able to access it through a symlink then?
[15:37] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Sorry, misread.
[15:37] <gh0stp> it could access a symlink to my /home fine
[15:37] <Starbucks> Where do I find the recovery option?
[15:37] <soreau> LogicalGhost: No, I don't assume you know what you're doing, but installing a driver first requires you know which device you're trying to get working
[15:37] <Starbucks> It says command prompt but I've tried fixmbr and nothing worked.
[15:37] <upiity> I believe there is an error in ubuntu 9. I have a fresh install and realize that when I MOVE TO TRASH it is actually deleted and the trash bin shows nothing inside. Any ideas?
[15:38] <djiezes> gh0stp: i don't think symlinks work on fat32
[15:38] <``Cube> Starbucks: tell me, why not?
[15:38] <Halitech> Starbucks, when you boot the install it should give the option to recover
[15:38] <Myrtti> ``Cube: can you move on?
[15:38] <gh0stp> :( are you kidding me?!
[15:38] <Starbucks> Nope doesn't seem to...but I will try again.
[15:38] <``Cube> Myrtti: yeah, im sorry. please answer that.
[15:38] <LogicalGhost> I just looked on the documentation site and it said if you need to install a driver to install ndisgtk, so I clicked on it, and it seemed pretty straightforward
[15:38] <djiezes> gh0stp: you're better of doing apache on a native linux filesystem like ext3
[15:38] <Starbucks> cube your fine to say lol obviously I just wondered what you were lolling about xD.
[15:38] <pawan> hi
[15:38] <LogicalGhost> Nice easy graphical interface
[15:38] <Halitech> Starbucks, might also be repair
[15:38] <djiezes> gh0stp: you'll run into file permissions troubles & symlink troubles like you're doing now
[15:38] <pawan> unable to mount
[15:39] <pawan> unclean shutdown
[15:39] <gh0stp> what if i symlink to a symlink created on my home FS? my local FS is EXT4, the storage drive is FAT32(it can't be anything else due to compat. issues)
[15:39] <Starbucks> I've just been googling also...I found something called super grub. Could this be useful?
[15:39] <seevee> Mint IRC channel?
[15:40] <Pici> !mintsupport | seevee
[15:40] <djiezes> gh0stp: no idea, google for "symlink fat32" and "chmod fat32".
[15:40] <Halitech> Starbucks, that will work as well (from what I've read)
[15:40] <pawan> !mount
[15:40] <Starbucks> I just don't know which version I should download.
[15:40] <soreau> LogicalGhost: ndiswrapper is a way to use wifi drivers designed for windows, in linux. It is possible that there is already a linux native driver for your hardware, and lspci should tell you what your hardware chipset is. If it's not listed there in lspci, it is likely not plugged in or some other physical hardware issue
[15:40] <bullgard4> oldude67: This does not help.
[15:41] <LogicalGhost> soreau: Damn, okay. So with ndisgtk, should I just try to force a restart?
[15:41] <soreau> LogicalGhost: No, you should stop and decipher the output of 'lspci', and identifying your hardware then telling us what it is exactly
[15:42] <gh0stp> djiezes: interesting link http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-do-i-chmod-fat32-635778/ sorry for the trouble, but could you "dumb this down" for me? lol
[15:42] <PerryArmstrong> hey i have done an UML diagram in Umbrello, and i want to paste the diagram into openoffice for the purpose of documentation, which i am unable to do using copy paste...does anyone have any idea how i can get it..
[15:42] <erUSUL> gh0stp: fat32 does not support links period
[15:43] <gh0stp> damn. thank you
[15:43] <ejb> Hi, I added the Skype repo to my software sources list and updated but when I search for skype nothing comes up. Also I tried installing skype from the .deb and the installer told me that the same packagee was available in the software channel and that it should installed from there.
[15:43] <root> hello
[15:43] <Tick`> :\
[15:43] <gh0stp> thanks to all that helped me!! appreciate it!
[15:43] <upiity> Hi, I believe there is an error in ubuntu 9. I have a fresh install and realized that when I right click and "MOVE TO TRASH" it is actually deleted and the trash bin shows nothing inside. Any ideas?
[15:43] <Tick`> Much love for the netbook ReMix
[15:43] <LogicalGhost> soreau: if it's the ones that start with PCI I've got "PCI Bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)" and "PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82810 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 83)"
[15:44] <soreau> LogicalGhost: It will most likely start with 'Ethernet Controller'
[15:44] <djiezes> gh0stp: that link says how to mount a fat32 partition at boot with all read/write/execute permissions. symlink still won't work.
[15:45] <gh0stp> djiezes: thanks for clarifying, ill look into a back-up reformat solution
[15:45] <LogicalGhost> soreau: "Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet"?
[15:45] <user1__> hello, are there some easy general fast ways to making ubuntu desktop overall "more secure"?
[15:45] <Tick`> user1__: define more secure
[15:45] <hemanth> fonts are too sharp and not clear in ff3.5 in ubuntu 9.04
[15:45] <user1__> can I perhaps easly sandbox internet-exposed apps like firefox, kmail
[15:45] <user1__> Tick`:
[15:45] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Do you have anything that talks about wifi there?
[15:45] <SandGorgon> !ff35
[15:45] <LogicalGhost> soreau: No
[15:46] <djiezes> gh0stp: only solution i can think of with having to back up is resizing your fat32 partition and adding an ext3/ext4 partition for whatever it is you want to do with apache on there.
[15:46] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Ok, then that's probably it. sec
[15:46] <Myrtti> user1__: don't install outside of ubuntu official repositories, install chkrootkit
[15:46] <djiezes> gh0stp: but resizing without backing up is a bad idea ...
[15:46] <user1__> and some security framework to make programs, users, more isolated?
[15:47] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Can you show the link where it's telling to use ndisgtk?
[15:47] <javb> Hi, i have a new laptop, Dell XPS 16, and SOMETIMES, when ubuntu is going to boot "starting" i get  CRC ERROR System halted, i power it off, and then power it on, and it boots OK. That happens sometimes, any idea?
[15:47] <Ddorda> how do i change the logout options dialog back to what it was on ubuntu 810?
[15:47] <LogicalGhost> soreau: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html#troubleshooting-wireless-ndiswrapper
[15:47] <jaapvisser> deany also working with gthumb now had another version running in the background so had to kill all gthumb programs first.... bit stupid ...
[15:47] <xman> javb: are you booting from CD?
[15:48] <javb> xman, no, from hard disk
[15:48] <LeeZH> user1__: SELinux tightly restricts permissions per application, it isn't sandboxing but it is quite effective.
[15:48] <xman> javb: CRC mostly come when we have bad sectors on CD or Hard Drive
[15:49] <djiezes> javb: you'll want to fsck your system
[15:49] <soreau> LogicalGhost: I googled and I can't find a linux driver (I do not care for BroadCom chipsets but that is not relevant here) so.. how far did you get? Do you have the windows .inf file?
[15:49] <javb> xman, the computer is NEW, and it has dual boot with windows Vista... any idea on how to fix this problem? And WHY iis it SOMETIMES?
[15:49] <Polarina> javb: New or not, doesn't matter.
[15:50] <LogicalGhost> I came on here about a week ago and someone else did something they sent me that has an inf file and they said it would work
[15:50] <javb> Polarina, any idea on why "sometimes"?
[15:50] <xman> javb: do fsck as djiezes is saying, may be it will work for you...
[15:50] <rudeboy_xix> is there anyone who can help me with my problem regarding my intel GMA 3100 graphics, cause whenever I open my laptop, the brightness is always dim.
[15:50] <Polarina> javb: Damaged memory. Try to run memtest86+ on it.
[15:51] <rudeboy_xix> is there someone who can help me?
[15:51] <javb> Polarian, i did memtest, and it PASSED
[15:51] <javb> cman, "fsck" do i have to be out of the system to do that?
[15:51] <Polarina> javb: How long was it running?
[15:52] <javb> Polarina, 4 hours.
[15:52] <Polarina> javb: Ok, I don't know then.
[15:52] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Try getting it from here or downloading the driver for XP from the broadcom site http://www.bioticaindia.com/bcm5705.html
[15:52] <deany> gh0stp, how much data is on it and how much free
[15:52] <Halitech> javb, yes, you can't check a mounted system
[15:53] <javb> I was thinking that it may be the hard drive connection, maybe is bad connecred?
[15:53] <elfinch> can someone help me remember what to hold down to boot from livecd?
[15:53] <LogicalGhost> soreau: So what should I do about the current frozen process?
[15:53] <Severity1> what is the name of the package for the netbook remix launcher
[15:54] <Halitech> elfinch, depends on your system
[15:54] <Polarina> javb: Possibly electromagnetic interference. Are there any machineries around you that might cause that?
[15:54] <javb> Polarina, not that i know, i have gotten the error in different places
[15:54] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Kill it
[15:54] <elfinch> Halitech: oh, well, i'm running ubuntu, trying to use clonezilla.  is that enough info?
[15:54] <LogicalGhost> soreau: I don't know how, I've never done that in linux
[15:55] <soreau> LogicalGhost: I told you how already...
[15:55] <Ironhyd> hello
[15:55] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Try 'ps ax|grep ndis' to see it, then kill the process using the PID (process id) 'kill <PID>' or 'killall <process_name>'
[15:55] <Halitech> elfinch, not really, what kind of computer?
[15:55] <gh0stp> deany: 223.9 GB used   241.6GB free
[15:55] <kittu> HELLO
[15:55] <djiezes> elfinch: it depends on your motherboard BIOS. possibly the delete key, F11 or F8
[15:55] <Polarina> javb: I am not sure what might cause that then.
[15:55] <kittu> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[15:56] <Ironhyd> hello
[15:56] <Myrtti> kittu: hello?
[15:56] <LogicalGhost> soreau: but I don't know which process it is. It's the only thing running so would it be all six of them? Is there a process I shouldn't kill?
[15:56] <elfinch> Halitech: oh, right ;)  um, i386 (?i'm pretty sure) dell xps laptop
[15:56] <elfinch> Halitech: do you want info about the processor ?
[15:56] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Kill them all
[15:56] <Halitech> elfinch, could be F12
[15:56] <kittu> HEYY HOW DO YOU DO??
[15:56] <Myrtti> !offtopic | kittu
[15:56] <deany> gh0stp, hmm.  might be able to split it to make 2, the other being ext.  copying data from fat to ext, and then formatting fat32 to ext, then copyin data back to original location, then resize to make use of all space..
[15:56] <elfinch> Halitech: awesome, i will try it. thanks so much
[15:56] <Myrtti> !caps | kittu
[15:56] <Halitech> elfinch, no, just needed the computer type
[15:57] <kittu> I DONT UNDERSTAD ENGLIS
[15:57] <gh0stp> great idea, ill try, i will literally fall to my knees crying if i lose my data though xD
[15:57] <Myrtti> !es | kittu
[15:57] <deany> gh0stp, well, remove the 2nd ext partition and resize 1st to full space.
[15:57] <Halitech> elfinch, when the system boots it should say something about press XX for boot menu
[15:57] <kittu> I SPEAK SPANISH!!!
[15:57] <zicho> sometimes when i run more heavy applications, my computer becomes really slow for a biref period of time before resuming to normal. I think its the cpu getting overloaded or something like that. Between these moments the apps workds just fine, so my wuestion is if there is any way to control the frequency of the cpu?
[15:57] <derenrich> ban that troll
[15:57] <supersasho> hi.. how can i change the way when linux changes my cpu frequency? because on "ondemand", the load is up to 60% and it still doesn't rise the frequency
[15:57] <Myrtti> derenrich: the situation is being handled, thank you
[15:57] <javb> Polarina, what is driving me crazy is that the error is SOMETIMES, if there is something broken. IT IS broken. but it acts like it want to get broken, but doesn't finally break!
[15:57] <deany> gh0stp, nothing in life is certain (death taxes and morons excluded)
[15:58] <LogicalGhost> soreau: I killed one but it keeps saying "Operation not permitted" when I try to kill the others
[15:58] <gh0stp> lol
[15:58] <soreau> LogicalGhost: Use sudo
[15:58] <deany> gh0stp, ive resized an ext partition a couple times fine
[15:58] <Halitech> javb, might be a wire connecting the hard drive to the motherboard has a slightly broken connection and flexing a certain way might make or break the connection
[15:58] <Halitech> deany, I agree with you on the morons ~L~
[15:59] <soreau> deany: lol
[15:59] <gh0stp> deany: should the new ext part. be primary or extended?
[15:59] <qe2eqe> I need a command to start as early as possible in the boot process (right after nic starts). Where do I look?
[15:59] <oggu> How can I ssh through an ssh tunnel?
[15:59] <PerryArmstrong> hey i have done an UML diagram in Umbrello, and i want to paste the diagram into openoffice for the purpose of documentation, which i am unable to do using copy paste...does anyone have any idea how i can get it..
[15:59] <deany> gh0stp, if there is only 1 already, and its primary, then primary.
[15:59] <javb> Halitech, is a laptop.. i refuse to that idea, but i think that ill have to open it!
[15:59] <Myrtti> PerryArmstrong: export as svg or similar?
[15:59] <deany> i only use extendeds when i HAVE to
[15:59] <djiezes> javb: fsck first ...
[16:00] <Halitech> supersasho, might need to change a setting in the BIOS to have it kick in sooner
[16:00] <gh0stp> crossing fingers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:00] <elfinch> Halitech: ok, we'll see..
[16:00] <Severity1> there are netbook packages in the jaunty repos
[16:00] <qe2eqe> javb, there is no wire to hdd in laptop usually. connector goes right to board
[16:00] <zicho> sometimes when i run more heavy applications, my computer becomes really slow for a biref period of time before resuming to normal. I think its the cpu getting overloaded or something like that. Between these moments the apps workds just fine, so my wuestion is if there is any way to control the frequency of the cpu?
[16:00] <elfinch> djiezes: thanks :)  surely it is one of these!
[16:00] <javb> djiezes, i'll do that. Booting with a live cd? and then doing the fsck?
[16:00] <deany> gh0stp, i know its a pain but defrag the fat32 first
[16:00] <Severity1> is it safe to install?
[16:00] <LogicalGhost> soreau: Okay I think I killed it
[16:00] <LogicalGhost> soreau: I have to go, thanks for your help
[16:00] <Halitech> javb, if its new, be careful as you could void your warranty
[16:00] <gh0stp> deany: allready did :)
[16:00] <deany> gh0stp, it will make resizing less painful
[16:00] <deany> gh0stp, cool
[16:00] <deany> gh0stp, since you all that space free it shouldnt be a problem
[16:01] <s27> i want to upgrade firefox on ubuntu 9.04. when i go to synaptics package manager i see the latest version is only 3.0.10 but the latest one is 3.50
[16:01] <s27> how do i update to 3.50
[16:01] <djiezes> javb: yeah, i'm not sure about which arguments or so to use, read the man page or look for a howto online before rebooting with livecd
[16:01] <gh0stp> deany: just lighting up a smoke and hoping nervously! 7 seasons of mythbusters, all seasons of house etc
[16:01] <Pici> !ff35 > s27
[16:01] <ziroday> !ff3.5 > s27
[16:01] <djiezes> elfinch: glad to help :)
[16:01] <deany> gh0stp, ah.  well they will all be on usenet for like, ever and ever if you lose em all :)
[16:02] <elfinch> i have another question, possible naive.. i'm trying to make a bootable back up of my machine using clonezilla.  i'm going to put on an external hd , which is formatted to fat32.. is fat32 an ok choice? or should i reformat to ext3 or some such?
[16:02] <PerryArmstrong> Myritti; hey thanks..i didnt get the idea of exporting before and i got it now
[16:02] <deany> elfinch, to dump the backup onto, its fine
[16:02] <gh0stp> deany: true except for the mythbusters, a couple of these files are quite rare, no longer on any trackers :)
[16:02] <Myrtti> elfinch: to make sure all the file permissions are correct, I'
[16:02] <zicho> if cpufreq-selector gives "No cpufreq support", what can i do to fix that?
[16:02] <deany> elfinch, change it to ext if you really dont need fat tho
[16:02] <s27> what does that mean
[16:03] <Myrtti> elfinch: I'd use ext3 or some other native file system
[16:03] <Halitech> elfinch, fat32 has a 4gig file size limit
[16:03] <Myrtti> s27: did you read the message ubottu sent you?
[16:03] <s27> i cant upgrade to firefox 3.50 on ubuntu 9.0.4 now
[16:03] <s27> yes
[16:03] <Myrtti> s27: yes.
[16:03] <deany> gh0stp,  I use newsgroups, so dunno
[16:03] <Myrtti> s27: you need to wait for a few days
[16:03] <elfinch> Halitech: a ha!  i knew that once,  i think.  yeah, that is definitely a great reason to change it, thank you.
[16:03] <Myrtti> s27: it will eventually be upgradeable
[16:04] <s27> okay, ill wait
[16:04] <s27> thank you guys
[16:04] <Halitech> elfinch, something I forget about once ;)
[16:04] <deany> elfinch, clonezilla doesnt need permissions fixing up and it defaults to 2gig file splits.. so you dont HAVE to format
[16:04] <s27> one more question. is there a way to unselect all the packages in package manager?
[16:04] <Halitech> deany, didn't know that about clonezilla
[16:04] <deany> elfinch, i use a fat32 drive myself with clonezilla.  go ext tho
[16:04] <qe2eqe> Anyone know how to add commands to the early boot sequence?
[16:06] <imaginativeone> anyone heard of Ubuntu Tweak?
[16:06] <user1__> on ubuntu can I be sure that no user can edit other users file?  Concerning kernel and software exploits.  How to protect better in this area?
[16:07] <PerryArmstrong> Myrtti; hey thanks..i didnt get the idea of exporting before and i got it now
[16:07] <zicho> if cpufreq-selector gives "No cpufreq support", what can i do to fix that?
[16:07] <kabboo> hey my bluetooth is not working  i need help
[16:08] <deany> qe2eqe, press 'e' at boot menu
[16:09] <elfinch> deany:  thanks, that's good to know
[16:10] <Myrtti> PerryArmstrong: np
[16:10] <imaginativeone> anyone heard of Ubuntu Tweak?
[16:10] <Halitech> imaginativeone, yes
[16:11] <zicho> if cpufreq-selector gives "No cpufreq support", what can i do to fix that?
[16:11] <PerryArmstrong> Myrtti; umbrello is working strange...i created an object for Collaboration diagram and when i create a same object for sequence diagram...it says that the object exists
[16:11] <Halitech> zicho, does your system support it?
[16:12] <Myrtti> PerryArmstrong: I've personally used only Dia to do diagrams
[16:12] <kittu> in a time
[16:12] <imaginativeone> Halitech: how do I get it?
[16:12] <PerryArmstrong> Myrtti; is it another alternative to umbrello
[16:13] <kabboo> hey i was having windows vista on my laptop and the bluetooth was working fine ,then when I removed vista and installed ubuntu the bluetooth isnt working
[16:13] <MTecknology> any ideas how I can figure out if this guy is using bsd or linux?? He's asking for help and I can't see the system
[16:13] <kabboo> help please
[16:13] <ubuntuUSR> i can`t run ubuntu until fsck begin works. the problem is i`ve broken fsck and i`ve readonly file system
[16:13] <MTecknology> celthunder: lsb_release -a
[16:13] <jml> I'm running karmic on my laptop, with hardy in a chroot -- what's the most expedient way for me to get python2.3
[16:14] <Halitech> imaginativeone, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[16:14] <MTecknology> jml: #ubuntu+1
[16:14] <ubuntuUSR> how to repair broken packages and dependency using chroot?
[16:14] <L3dPlatedLinux> hey why is it that when i installed ubuntu 904 to my lappy it worked for a sec and after that the wifi didnt atheros madwifi drivers were installed but nothing and after installing xp and then dual booting tried it and its working fine, I mean  will i have to keep xp on there for it to continue to work?
[16:14] <Myrtti> PerryArmstrong: probably not exactly what you want
[16:14] <blackfate> how can ksplice have kernel upgrades tha native ubuntu update manager doesnt have?
[16:14] <PerryArmstrong> Myrtti; is there another alternative to umbrello
[16:14] <ubuntuUSR> i`ve already try to use apt-get with no effect
[16:15] <Myrtti> PerryArmstrong: I'm not too knowledgeable in that, sorry
[16:15] <Pici> blackfate: Nothing is stopping them from using their own kernel sources to compile from
[16:15] <PerryArmstrong> Myrtti; np
[16:15] <elfinch> Halitech: hmm, i feel foolish - now that I'm examining the partition i was thinking of reformatting in gparted, it's not letting me reformat it.. any thoughts as to why?
[16:15] <Halitech> ubuntuUSR, sudo apt-get -f  ??
[16:15] <TD-Linux> jml, you mean vs python 2.4/2.5?
[16:15] <Halitech> elfinch, is it mounted?
[16:15] <ubuntuUSR> Halitech: as i said apt-get can`t help me
[16:15] <blackfate> Pici, only ksplice can cover all the upgrades? or i should be using both of them?
[16:15] <elfinch> Halitech: think so, i can see it, and all 3 of it's partitions
[16:16] <Halitech> ubuntuUSR, the -f should fix anything broken
[16:16] <Severity1> lol i applied the unr gui to my jaunty install
[16:16] <Halitech> elfinch, if its mounted you can't make changes
[16:16] <jml> TD-Linux, I guess. I need python2.3 to test my changes to Twisted, which still supports python2.3
[16:16] <Severity1> looks fun but you hafya disable the effectsof jaunty
[16:16] <Pici> blackfate: Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure I understood what you were asking.
[16:16] <irfan> how to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[16:16] <elfinch> Halitech: ahh, ok. so " sudo umount /my/drive "  is that right?
[16:17] <Halitech> irfan, sudo apt-get install pidgin
[16:17] <Halitech> elfinch, yup
[16:17] <ubuntuUSR> Halitech: i`ve try it but without no expected results
[16:17] <Guest98830> but it is not working now
[16:17] <PerryArmstrong> does anybody suggest an alternative to umbrello
[16:17] <blackfate> pici: if there is a kernel fix from ubuntu team, ksplice will include it too?
[16:17] <TD-Linux> jml, hmm... what I would do is download the python 2.3 source package and configure it to install in its own directory with special suffix
[16:17] <TD-Linux> or possibly just not install it at all... dunno if python can run without being installed
[16:17] <TD-Linux> I don't believe repos have python 2.3
[16:17] <Orange_v_Blue> Anyone here use Comix? Having some trouble with opening .cbr files, even though I have the RAR package.
[16:17] <Oggu_> How can I ssh through an ssh tunnel?
[16:18]  * sattam brb
[16:18] <Guest98830> please tell me sulotion
[16:18] <ubuntuUSR> Halitech: i think some part of core files is damaged
[16:18] <PerryArmstrong> Myrtti; whats your opinion about Dia
[16:18] <Halitech> ubuntuUSR, if thats the case then probably not
[16:18] <TD-Linux> jml, I just take that back, I see python2.3 packages
[16:18] <Pici> blackfate: You'd have to ask them, they are completely separate from Ubuntu and Canonical.
[16:18] <jml> TD-Linux, yeah, I guess that's what I'm going to have to do... I was hoping that there might have been a backport in a ppa or something
[16:18] <``Cube> shit
[16:18] <``Cube> oops sorry
[16:18] <Guest98830> no anyone messenger support now
[16:18] <jml> TD-Linux, oh where?
[16:18] <blackfate> Pici, i c.. thanx for your time
[16:18] <Guest98830> please solve my problem
[16:19] <Myrtti> PerryArmstrong: it's not perfect, but it's sufficient for my use
[16:19] <TD-Linux> jml, I dunno, I did an aptitude search python
[16:19] <TD-Linux> jml, probably in universe?
[16:19] <PerryArmstrong> Myrtti; i just need to create simple UML diagrams...will this be ok
[16:19] <zicho> Halitech how do i check that?
[16:19] <Guest98830> no one can help me?
[16:19] <sorak> guest 98830, whats the issue?
[16:19] <Orange_v_Blue> Anyone here use Comix? Having some trouble with opening .cbr files, even though I have the RAR package.
[16:19] <Halitech> zicho, what kind of computer?
[16:20] <TD-Linux> Orange_v_Blue: you might need unrar-nonfree
[16:20] <Myrtti> Guest98830: which version of ubuntu do you have?
[16:20] <TD-Linux> err
[16:20] <TD-Linux> just unrar
[16:20] <Guest98830> 9.04
[16:20] <ubuntuUSR> Halitech: taht`s the result of apt-get install -f: 0 updated, 0 new installed, 0 removed i 0 non-updated.
[16:21] <Guest98830> can i install yahoo messenger in ubuntu?
[16:21] <zicho> Halitech a zepto znote 315W laptop
[16:21] <sorak> i think pidgin handles yahoo accounts, guest98830
[16:21] <Oggu_> How can I ssh through an ssh tunnel?
[16:21] <baba_b00ie> does 904 have better laptop support. meaning power management and hibernation features.. ??
[16:21] <ubuntuUSR> Halitech: any other ideas?
[16:21] <djiezes> !yahoo | Guest98830
[16:21] <Guest98830> but no one messenger open my yahoo ID
[16:22] <imaginativeone> how do I install Ubuntu Tweak?
[16:22] <TD-Linux> Guest98830: yeah the Yahoo IM servers changed... official clients died too from what I heard
[16:22] <imaginativeone> GDebi doesn't seem to do the trick
[16:22] <Halitech> ubuntuUSR, backup and reinstall?
[16:22] <Guest98830> how it will work
[16:22] <baba_b00ie> Guest98830,  go to pidgins website and do what they say on the download ubuntu page
[16:22] <TD-Linux> Guest98830: I believe there is a pidgin update soon too
[16:23] <Guest98830> ok
[16:23] <Orange_v_Blue> TD-Linux: I just grabbed whatever I found when I looked up rar in add/remove programs
[16:23] <baba_b00ie> Guest98830, i had like many had the same problem. they tell you how to update the program right from there to 2.5.7
[16:23] <varun_> hello
[16:24] <Cajun_Lan_Man> VMware question.  Has anyone in here had any success running the vSphere client in Ubuntu?
[16:24] <varun_> anyone here knows about epsxe ,I have run into a problem
[16:25] <Halitech> zicho, anything in the bios about it?
[16:25] <deany> TD-Linux, are you sure, there have been 3 new versions since
[16:26] <kandinski> I have a user that has no shell permission nor homedir: how can I give him both?
[16:26] <indus> so will ff 3.5 replace 3.0.11 in jaunty?
[16:26] <mirzabaig> hello friend need help can some one guide me how to sent mail pl
[16:26] <coleys> kandinski: sudo mkdir /home/username, then chown -R username /home/username
[16:26] <zicho> Halitech i dont know, i havent checked
[16:27] <varun_> hello
[16:27] <varun_> everyone
[16:27] <Halitech> zicho, I'm not finding anything online about it so not sure
[16:27] <kandinski> coleys: thanks
[16:27] <coleys> kandinski: OR... you can make it easy on yourself, and just delete this user, and ill give you command to create everything at once?
[16:27]  * TwoToneSpirit has never seen so much attention on one topic in this channel as FF3.5 has received today.
[16:28] <kandinski> coleys: it's not my machine, I am helping a friend, and I don't know what else depends on this user. but thanks
[16:28] <djiezes> well, people expect their updates to be up to date i guess :)
[16:29] <zicho> Halitech because as i said before, the computer runs fine but sometimes the cpu just gores crazy for a while and then resumes to normal
[16:29] <ubuntuUSR> Halitech: it`s not good idea, i`ve got backuped files already. i`ve installed and updated new-installed ubuntu.then i used old files to replace new /new files now are overwritten by old ones/
[16:29] <TwoToneSpirit> Yeah, I still don't feel like I have a solid understanding of when (and under what circumstances) FF3.5 will replace 3011 in the repos.
[16:29] <coleys> kandinski: ahh, welll the easiest way to create a user with home directory and allowance for bash.. is this command: useradd -m -s /bin/bash username
[16:29] <mirzabaig> what is the simplest way to send e-mail from terminal
[16:29] <bruenig> mirzabaig: sendmail
[16:30] <djiezes> TwoToneSpirit: as far as i understand it, it won't, it'll replace the firefox-3.5 beta4 package ...
[16:30] <bruenig> mirzabaig: i.e. postfix
[16:30] <Saouka> Is there a problem if a wireless card (BCM4315) shows up as eth1 instead of a wlan?
[16:30] <Halitech> zicho, not sure what you mean by it goes crazy
[16:30] <TwoToneSpirit> djiezes:  So people using 3011 will never be alerted to change to 3.5?
[16:30] <Alinn_> Hi
[16:31] <ubuntuUSR> Halitech: now i`ve some problems with some kernel modules. i think is a bit hard to fix it but it should be possible to do that
[16:31] <djiezes> TwoToneSpirit: that's what I figured, yes. 3.5 is a major update & wont replace 3.0.x afaik
[16:31] <mirzabaig> bruenig: i dont want a mail server :(
[16:31] <TwoToneSpirit> djiezes:  and for that matter, when will 3.5(final) replace the beta in the repo
[16:31] <Guest18348> Hi!  Anyone here ever used "motion" with their webcams?
[16:31] <Halitech> ubuntuUSR, should be able to but beyond my abilities
[16:31] <djiezes> TwoToneSpirit: no idea at all. "soon" they say
[16:31] <Alinn_> this page not have ubuntu dvd hash.how i check it?https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:31] <djiezes> !ff35 > TwoToneSpirit
[16:31] <TwoToneSpirit> Saouka: In my experience, network cards have always shown up this way.
[16:32] <imaginativeone> how do I install Ubuntu Tweak?
[16:32] <imaginativeone> GDebi doesn't seem to do the trick
[16:32] <chocobanana> TwoToneSpirit: 3.0.x will still be the default in Jaunty, it still receives security updates. Karmic will have 3.5 as default
[16:32] <chocobanana> !ff35 > chocobanana
[16:32] <zicho> Halitech it slows down and lags, and the computer runs on like 99% cpu
[16:32] <coleys> imaginativeone: http://getdeb.net
[16:32] <sjzzalx> Hello, #ubuntu. I have old_passwords=1 set in my.cnf but PASSWORD() still outputs new-type passwords. I don't like this. How can it be fixed?
[16:33] <ubuntuUSR> anyone know how to preform fsck when it`s not in the system?
[16:33] <coleys> imaginativeone: More specifically http://www.getdeb.net/app/Ubuntu+Tweak
[16:33] <Halitech> zicho, when it does that, open a termina and run top to see whats using the Cpu
[16:33] <kittu> HELLO
[16:33] <imaginativeone> coleys: thanks!
[16:33] <sjzzalx> ubuntuUSR: what does "not in the system" mean?
[16:33] <kittu> hello
[16:33] <sjzzalx> kittu: sup
[16:33] <kittu> sorry
[16:33] <chocobanana> lol
[16:33] <ubuntuUSR> sjzzalx: is broken
[16:34] <chocobanana> kittu: skzzalx meant "what's up?"
[16:34] <kittu> como estan todos?
[16:34] <djiezes> !es > kittu
[16:34] <zicho> Halitech i know whats using the cpu
[16:34] <kittu> ok
[16:34] <chocobanana> kittu: ola! english only!
[16:34] <sjzzalx> ubuntuUSR: fsck is broken or your disk is broken?
[16:34] <Halitech> zicho, what is that?
[16:34] <zicho> but i wanna know if there is a way for the computer too get overloaded
[16:34] <ubuntuUSR> sjzzalx: fsck of course
[16:34] <zicho> since the application runs fine in between these moments
[16:34] <sjzzalx> ubuntuUSR: what happens when you try to run fsck?
[16:35] <Alinn_> join #md5sum
[16:35] <djiezes> zicho: what exactly is the problem? your app hangs when cpu load goes to 99%? or the cpu fan gets to loud? ... ?
[16:35] <enrique> hi
[16:35] <ubuntuUSR> i`ve got error message about missing some .so file
[16:35] <mirzabaig> how to send mail from terminal, i do not want to run mail server
[16:35] <zicho> djiezes the fan gets loud
[16:36] <sjzzalx> ubuntuUSR: copy it here if it's a single line, if not, copy to http://www.pastebin.com
[16:36] <zicho> the app still works but it lags, and so does the rest of the computer for a while
[16:36] <Halitech> zicho, means the unit is heating up
[16:36] <Ddorda> how do i change the logout options dialog back to what it was on ubuntu 810?
[16:36] <Halitech> mirzabaig, use another mail server
[16:36] <kittu> only english?
[16:36] <djiezes> zicho: there might be some options on your BIOS motherboard to change to a "smart cpu fan" mode or "cool 'n quiet" , depending on the mobo & cpu.
[16:36] <zicho> djiezes okay, i'll look
[16:37] <sjzzalx> ubuntuUSR: and the best way around it is probably going to be to load up a live CD or something and check with that. You shouldn't fsck on mounted filesystems anyway. You're not trying to do that, right? Fastest solution would probably be to get a Puppy Linux disc, pop that in, and run fsck from there.
[16:37] <djiezes> zicho: the sensors package (in ubuntu) should give you an idea about temperatures & rpm.
[16:37] <markskilbeck> Quick q - when my net connection dies, firefox, and any other programs the use the net, stop responding. Which, in turn, leads to ubuntu crashing.
[16:37] <markskilbeck> Also, my net is stopping pretty frequently - any ideas why?
[16:37] <djiezes> zicho: for the sensors package & howto configure, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[16:37] <kittu> bom dia!!!
[16:37] <ubuntuUSR> sjzzalx: ok but for now i must shut down my computer. i will appear as XbmcUser using phone
[16:38] <deany> ubuntuUSR, try recovery mode, there is an option to fsck
[16:39] <Alinn_> the output of md5sum kubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso is: 265ebbbfe41d6daff249d52a91db0e97 -- how i know it is complete?
[16:39] <ubuntuUSR> deany: it appears after i use ctrl+alt+delete but only for a moment and is not interactive
[16:40] <kittu> hello
[16:40] <rski> hello
[16:40] <kittu> hi
[16:40] <coleys> !ot | kittu
[16:40] <deany> ubuntuUSR, ah, well livecd it is then
[16:40] <mirzabaig> i am new   using ubuntu  my question send  email from the terminal without using mail server
[16:40] <kittu> ubunto no seas mala onda
[16:40] <Myrtti> kittu: english, or out
[16:40] <Halitech> mirzabaig, you can't
[16:41] <Xubuntnoob> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;'
[16:41] <Xubuntnoob> sry ^ cat
[16:42] <coleys> !es > kittu
[16:42] <kittu> yes
[16:43] <Adola> Anyone ever used Motion?
[16:44] <n0gearII> Quick question: Can there be multiple MSN accounts at the same time in Pidgin?
[16:44] <coleys> n0gearII: Yes.
[16:44] <n0gearII> coleys: ty
[16:44] <n0gearII> coleys: gmail supported as well?
[16:44] <DJones> n0gearII: yes, you can have multiple msn/gmail/aim/yahoo accounts
[16:45] <merlin2049er> sup
[16:45] <n0gearII> DJones: excellent
[16:45] <XbmcUser> Sjzzalx: libuuid.so.1 cannont open shared object file:no such file/directory
[16:45] <coleys> n0gearII: I believe there is plugins for that effect, but if your refering to google talk, then yes it does support it.
[16:45] <XbmcUser> Sjzzalx: fsck died with exit status 127
[16:46] <merlin2049er> sup
[16:46] <sowmithry> hi
[16:46] <merlin2049er> hi
[16:46] <papul> sowmithry, hi
[16:46] <Promethes> hi, ive compared java jre performance on Ubuntu 9.04 and on OpenSuse 11.1 and on OpenSuse java is faster (for example netbeans). Is there a way to make java runs faster on ubuntu? Anyone knows something about this topic?
[16:47] <commander_> I'm back on Ubuntu
[16:47] <sowmithry> how to set envinormental variable to an user login
[16:47] <Adola> what's a good program besides cheese to give nice effects for my webcam?
[16:47] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[16:47] <coleys> lol
[16:47] <roffe> could anyone help me install a vpn-service?
[16:47] <XbmcUser> Sjzzalx: how to save entire bootlog?i'd like use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:47] <kittu> coley
[16:47] <coleys> kittu: Sii?
[16:48] <papul> how do i get nice effects on ubuntu
[16:48] <roffe> could anyone help me install a vpn-service?
[16:48] <h4f> how do I play VP7 encoded video ?
[16:48] <coleys> papul: Sytem > Preferences > Appearnce > Visual Effects
[16:48] <sowmithry> hi papul please tell me how to set envinormental variable to an user login
[16:48] <coleys> papul: System* > Preferences > Appearnce > Visual Effects
[16:49] <hekinami1> I found that now QQ is not available in pidgin. How can I solve this?
[16:49] <Ddorda> how do i change the logout options dialog back to what it was on ubuntu 810?
[16:49] <elli222> grub2 in ubuntu (and probably debian) has a bug in /etc/default/grub. there is a "splash" command added to CRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX which is also used in single-user  mode. which means the splash system is started in single user mode, this doesn't seem desired.
[16:49] <papul> coleys, other than that such as the cube
[16:49] <coleys> papul: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[16:49] <coleys> =)
[16:50] <gzojw> what is the uname -a for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:50] <papul> coleys, whats ccsm?
[16:50] <h4f> how do I play VP7 encoded video ?  anyone. did not find solution on the web :(
[16:50] <coleys> papul: Compiz Config Settings Manager has all the extras your looking for.
[16:50] <gzojw> is 2.6.28-3 correct?  because my ubuntu does not see suddenly ext4 partitions
[16:50] <Flare183> !netsplit
[16:51] <Thingymebob> gzojw: I'm on 2.6.28-13
[16:51] <papul> how do see the cube?
[16:51] <coleys> papul: There is a cube setting within the program, just take a look =P
[16:51] <gzojw> Thingymebob:  can you pastebin me your /etc/fstab ?
[16:51] <sowmithry> hey guys pls help me out
[16:51] <rski> h4f: tried mplayer from svn?
[16:51] <gzojw> sowmithry: what is the problem
[16:52] <oggu> How can I access a server through SFTP over an SSH tunnel?
[16:52] <merlin2049er> whats new
[16:52] <sowmithry> how to set envinorment variable specific to that user login
[16:52] <h4f> rski: yeap tried everything
[16:52] <hekinami1> oggu, yes you can
[16:52] <oggu> hekinami1: How?
[16:52] <h4f> rski: sorry svn no
[16:52] <rski> h4f: also hang out in #mplayer
[16:52] <rski> after you tried
[16:52] <rski> if it dosen't work
[16:52] <h4f> rski: :)
[16:52] <gzojw> anyone, please paste me your  /etc/fstab  if you are using  ext4
[16:53] <papul> coleys, i have enabled the desktop cube now how do i see it?
[16:53] <hekinami1> oggu, just connect the server like what you do when connect the ftp
[16:53] <coleys> papul: Control + Alt + Move mouse.
[16:53] <oggu> hekinami1: I cant get it to work over the tunnel
[16:53] <coleys> papul: And you should look at documentation. +P
[16:54] <RiverRat> I have a quick question.  My computer needs some rather complex routing stuff done at boot so I wrote a script and got it all dialed in.  What is the simplest way to execute it at boot-up?  Is it as simple as adding it to /etc/init.d/ ?
[16:54] <XbmcUser> How to save bootlog?
[16:54] <Thingymebob> gzojw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/207591/ not sur what help it will be for some mad reason I decided to use JFS
[16:54] <papul> coleys, nothing happens
[16:54] <RiverRat> bot wars!
[16:54] <ubuntistas> when firefox is gone be updated?
[16:54]  * gzojw whacks ubuntu 9.04 for failing
[16:54] <rski> !firefox
[16:54] <coleys> papul: control + alt + left or right.
[16:55] <kbrosnan> !ff35 | ubuntistas
[16:55] <papul> coleys, still nothing happens
[16:55] <patapouf> Hello, I have trouble with flash, I install adobe-flashplugin, but still firefox doesn't display the flash object
[16:55]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[16:56] <coleys> papul: I don't know default keystrokes. Check within Compiz config settings manager.
[16:56] <hekinami1> oggu, any message?
[16:56]  * gzojw rates ubuntu 9.04 as Full of Fail
[16:57] <sowmithry> I Installaed TUXEDO server on my system and now to start it i need to set envnorment variables in my profile, but when i did that they are not reflecting when i relogin back in to my session in shell
[16:57] <nogagplz> gzojw, what about kubuntu
[16:57] <gzojw> nogagplz: its the same
[16:57] <gzojw> problems I see so far seem to be on system level
[16:58] <nogagplz> whew, lucky I aren't using any of them then :D
[16:58] <bsigil> This might sound like a stupid question...  But if you compile and install an application from source and you want to recompile it, can you just run './configure', 'make', and 'make install' again or is there something else you have to do first?
[16:58] <XbmcUser> How to enter into recovery menu manually?
[16:58] <deany> make clean
[16:59] <bsigil> that's it?
[16:59] <Thingymebob> gzojw: if its a fresh install, try again with ext3, I'm not sure all the ext4 issues are resolved yet
[16:59] <Operations> big problem with a usb stick with u3
[16:59] <deany> bsigil, yup.  sets back to normal
[16:59] <deany> bsigil, well you could uninstall it first too
[17:00] <bsigil> Great.  I compiled Pidgin 2.5.7 with some options switched off and it's not behaving properly so I figured I'd try recompiling it with the options turned back on.
[17:00] <Operations> who can tell me how to remove u3 under linux?
[17:00] <bsigil> How do I do that?  'make uninstall'?
[17:00] <deany> bsigil, tried getdeb.net for latest debs?
[17:00] <bsigil> Sorry.  I've never had to uninstall a piece of software I've compiled from source.
[17:00] <deany> make uninstall
[17:00] <coleys> bsigil: make uninstall
[17:01] <bsigil> deany, I'm still running feisty.  There isn't a deb for Pidgin 2.5.7
[17:01] <deany> bsigil, ouch :)
[17:01] <coleys> bsigil: http://getdeb.net
[17:01] <coleys> One better. 2.5.8 =)
[17:02] <deany> coleys, he`s on feisty
[17:02] <oggu> hekinami1: I set a local SOCKS 5 proxy in FF. I then surf to an IP over the tunnel in my web browser. No problems. Then I try to connect with my ftp-program with the same proxy settings over sftp and it doesn't connect.
[17:02] <deany> weird, on getdeb, jaunty and hardy are 2.5.8 but intrepid is 2.5.5
[17:03] <deany> was intrepid that much a Fail. :)
[17:03] <coleys> =D
[17:04] <Promille> Hey. How would the command be if im searching for something in a nfo file. find | grep ... ?
[17:04] <LinKDeaD> How do I log into Ubuntu as a root user?
[17:04] <OneFix_Work> Anyone know where I can find a package for Firefox 3.5?
[17:04] <Halitech> LinKDeaD, you don't
[17:04] <Promille> LinKDeaD: type in su
[17:04] <Promille> but dont
[17:04] <Promille> use sudo
[17:05] <synta10> LinKDeaD: you can use sudo -s as a regular user
[17:05] <LinKDeaD> Its not working
[17:05] <kbrosnan> !ff35 | OneFix_Work
[17:05] <LinKDeaD> Well, its working
[17:05] <Thingymebob> !root | Promille
[17:05] <LinKDeaD> But I cant run the program that way
[17:05] <Halitech> LinKDeaD, what are you trying to run?
[17:05] <Promille> LinKDeaD: what are you trying to do do?
[17:06] <LinKDeaD> A game called Planeshift.  I installed it as root, then when I click on the icon in my applications menu it tells me Permission Denied
[17:06] <Promille> LinKDeaD: how exactly did you install it as root?
[17:06] <LinKDeaD> So I tried installing as a user and I dont have permission to create directories
[17:06] <Halitech> LinKDeaD, try gksudo
[17:06] <LinKDeaD> The install file is in my home directory, so I did "sudo su"
[17:06] <LinKDeaD> Gave my password and got root
[17:06] <coleys> o.o
[17:07] <LinKDeaD> then used chmod +x PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[17:07] <Promille> yeah and if you wanna run it, use sudo and.the.command..
[17:07] <LinKDeaD> Then just did ./PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[17:07] <jabagawee> LinKDeaD: unless the installer did it wrong, you sould be able to run the program as a non-root user
[17:07] <LinKDeaD> And the installer ran fine
[17:07] <Promille> LinKDeaD: try sudo ./PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[17:07] <Halitech> Promille, if its a grapical app he should use gksudo, not sudo
[17:07] <Promille> Halitech: thats right
[17:07] <LinKDeaD> Its a graphical app
[17:07] <synta10> LinKDeaD: try to run it without sudo
[17:08] <deany> is the installer graphical
[17:08] <Operations> please, how can I format a usb stick in linux?
[17:08] <jabagawee> synta10: he said something about non-root not being able to make folders. it probably writes to /opt
[17:08] <synta10> the installer - place it somewhere into your directory
[17:08] <Operations> it show only with lsusb
[17:08] <LinKDeaD> Yeah, it writes to /opt
[17:08] <Promille> Operations: tried gparted?
[17:08] <Halitech> Operations, Partition Editor
[17:08] <Operations> now I'm installing it
[17:09] <synta10> jabagawee: oh yeah, but most of these installers are able to install into home dir
[17:09] <Promille> !gparted | Operations
[17:09] <Neo-Vortex> heyia, ive got a problem trying to install python-libxslt1 with python2.4 installed -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/207598/
[17:09] <Neo-Vortex> python-libxslt1: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[17:09] <jabagawee> hmm
[17:09] <Promille> How would the command be if im searching for something in a nfo file. find | grep ... ?
[17:09] <Neo-Vortex> paste has the full error output and such
[17:09] <Operations> the thing is that this usb had u3 capabilty but in ubuntu i've deleted the sys files
[17:09] <Neo-Vortex> Promille: grep "whatnot" file.nfo
[17:09] <Operations> now in win it shows u3 partition but it doewsnt start
[17:09] <bsigil> Thanks for the help, deany.  I hope this fixes the problem
[17:09] <Neo-Vortex> find is for finding files
[17:10] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: i wanna search in all nfo files in that folder
[17:10] <Neo-Vortex> Promille: grep "whatnot" *.nfo
[17:10] <LargePrime> Hello volunteers.  I was wondering if there are drivers out yet to support the older ATI cards, so I might upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04.  Specifically I was wondering where on the web I would track such an event.  Thanks for your time
[17:10] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: ah ok, i tried that only with 'spam' instead of "spam".. thanks
[17:10] <deany> LargePrime, there isnt.  I`m gutted im one of those left behind.
[17:11] <Operations> heeelp
[17:11] <Imperfect> Hey, so if I have the b4 version of firefox 3.5 do I just have to wait for the package maintainers to package up the final and get it in the repositories, or is it worth my time to go add other sources and get it from there?
[17:11] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: but whats the difference between find | grep and just grep then?
[17:11] <Halitech> LargePrime, unless you can find someone that has it you won't find it on a site
[17:11] <LargePrime> deany: But you hold hopw there will be?
[17:11] <Operations> it is not appearing in gparted
[17:11] <Neo-Vortex> Promille: grep will tell you what file it found it in effectively ;)
[17:11] <Neo-Vortex> and is simpler ;)
[17:11] <deany> LargePrime, no, they said, they are unsupported now.  its the opensource "radeon" driver or nothing now
[17:11] <synta10> Imperfect: depends if you want run on the edge ;-)
[17:11] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: ah ok, thanks buddy
[17:12] <deany> LargePrime, which might be ok for some, but unacceptable for anything other than compiz, for me.
[17:12] <b3rz3rk3r> hey all, i keep getting this error when updating: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch   any ideas?
[17:12] <Neo-Vortex> although if you want to say do it for every nfo file in the system, you have to use grep, although you could use find to only get the filenames then pass those as params to grep ;)
[17:12] <Halitech> LargePrime, deany would version 8.42 do you any good?
[17:12] <Neo-Vortex> grep "spam" `find ...` or the like ;)
[17:12] <Ddorda> how do i run ghex?
[17:12] <Neo-Vortex> Ddorda: ghex2 iirc
[17:12] <Ddorda> thanks!
[17:12] <deany> catalyst 9.3 is the last driver you can use for the "unsupported" cards, and that doesnt support the newer xorg in jaunty
[17:12] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: i see, thanks
[17:12] <LargePrime> Halitech: It was my information that these cards are now "open" and there is open source work being done to get one developed.  deany
[17:12] <Imperfect> synta10: I can afford to wait, so long as eventually it'll happen eventually.
[17:13] <MellowDude> how do i uninstall flash player 10 that i got off the flashplayer website
[17:13] <deany> LargePrime,  I can play 3d games with the OSS driver, but not really fast enough
[17:13] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: but does that command search inside the nfo or just in the names that have i.e. "spam" ?
[17:13] <LargePrime> deany: that is my info too.  I understood that now ATI had released the docs, so the open source community can develope drivers for these. Halitech
[17:13] <synta10> Imperfect: there is this repo: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[17:14] <deany> !radeon | LargePrime
[17:14] <Halitech> LargePrime, could be right, just happened to remember I still have a copy of 8.42 but haven't tried to use it
[17:14] <b3rz3rk3r> hey all, i keep getting this error when updating: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch   any ideas?
[17:14] <Neo-Vortex> Promille: `find ...` should in theory end up returning a list of filenames, then grep will search for "spam" in those files ;)
[17:15] <deany> that page in the bots link needs updating :) 9600 indeed
[17:15] <deany> LargePrime, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:15] <Neo-Vortex> its equiv of doing grep "spam" a.nfo b.nfo c.nfo etc
[17:15] <LargePrime> Halitech: How could I get that from you
[17:15] <Pici> deany: Its a wiki, feel free to update it.
[17:15] <MellowDude> any help on hoe to remove flashplayer 10
[17:15] <LargePrime> deany: Reading now
[17:15] <Kurisuchan> I have installed ubuntu from an old 8.04 live cd, is there an easy way of getting it up to date to 9.whatever?
[17:15] <MellowDude> how*
[17:15] <Promille> Neo-Vortex:  kk:)
[17:15] <commander_> i need help w/debian
[17:15] <Pici> commander_: Then ask in #debian
[17:15] <mobi-sheep> !upgrade | Kurisuchan
[17:15] <lfk> when a tested/patched version of firefox3.5 is available for jaunty, how can i upgrade my existing ff installation? will it update automatically?
[17:16] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: reason im asking im searching inside nfo files, and searching for a specific label, if you understand. but grep "spam" *.nfo didnt return anything so it must be something wrong
[17:16] <Halitech> LargePrime, give me a second and I'll toss it on a server for you
[17:16] <C-S-B> lfk i thik its a seperate package
[17:16] <Neo-Vortex> Promille: are the nfo files in the current directory?
[17:16] <mobi-sheep> Kurisuchan: Do "From 8.04 LTS to 8.10" then "From 8.10 to 9.04"
[17:16] <Thingymebob> b3rz3rk3r: Have you tried a different server
[17:16] <jmoncayo> good morning, anyone here has installed chillispot + freeradius?
[17:17] <deany> Promille, there is a command to search inside text files, but i cant for the life of me remember it
[17:17] <Promille> no theres alot of subdir's in that directory
[17:17] <LargePrime> Halitech: Great.
[17:17] <Kurisuchan> mobi-sheep: thank you
[17:17] <n0gearII> is it possible to set different resolution for 2 monitors?
[17:17] <geirha> Promille: find -name "*.nfo" -exec grep "spam" {} +
[17:17] <MellowDude> u can upgrade 8.04lts to 9.04 with the altrnative cd
[17:17] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: no theres alot of subdirs in that directory
[17:17] <Promille> geirha: thanks :)
[17:17] <b3rz3rk3r> Thingymebob, i think that might be the problem actually, i move around a lot, many different countries, and to maintain decent download speeds wherever i am i change my server location too
[17:17] <Neo-Vortex> then what geri said ;P - grep is easier to remember, but only works for current directory as i said ;P
[17:18] <Halitech> LargePrime, just sent you the link in another window
[17:18] <lfk> C-S-B: ic.. so i guess ill have to install the firefox3.5 beta package and wait for an update then?
[17:18] <deany> Promille, grep -i -n ‘filename’ *
[17:18] <Promille> Neo-Vortex: ah kk. thanks alot anyways :)
[17:18] <Neo-Vortex> actualy
[17:18] <deany> might work
[17:18] <geirha> Promille: If you're using bash, you can also do: grep "spam" **/*.nfo
[17:18] <C-S-B> lfk: yes if you cant wait, but I'd wait
[17:18] <Neo-Vortex> deany: wait, isnt -n just line numbers?
[17:18] <bsigil> I need to upgrade ubuntu but I really don't feel like waiting six weeks for the disc to arrive ><
[17:18] <lfk> C-S-B: wait until karmic?
[17:18] <bsigil> damned dialup..
[17:18] <Promille> geirha: lol, which one is easiest.. theres so many now:P
[17:19] <deany> sorry missed out function
[17:19] <C-S-B> lfk: you can download from mozilla and run from a folder if you want
[17:19] <Halitech> bsigil, if you get the live cd you can't upgrade from it, only do a fresh install
[17:19] <Mikau> hey.. does anyone know how to install C/C++ features in NetBeans?
[17:19] <C-S-B> lfk: they are jaunty testing 3.5
[17:19] <bsigil> Halitech, well, that's what I'd do anyway.
[17:19] <C-S-B> lfk: theyll be a jaunty release of 3.5, eventually
[17:19] <lfk> C-S-B: oh.. nice. then i may as well just wait it out.
[17:19] <Promille> geirha: thanks that worked great :) but is there anyway that result come as it search? because its a big directory and it will take some time
[17:19] <bsigil> Probably can't upgrade since I'm still running feisty.
[17:19] <synta10> Mikau: through plugins?
[17:19] <Halitech> bsigil, ok, just wanted to point that out so you were aware
[17:20] <Mikau> can be..
[17:20] <lfk> C-S-B: thanks for the info :)
[17:20] <C-S-B> lfk: download the tarball from mozilla
[17:20] <Mikau> i installed the java pack only..
[17:20] <bsigil> Halitech, yeah, I'd have to get the 'alternate installation' cd.  I've looked into upgrading before. :)
[17:20] <Halitech> bsigil, no one around with highspeed that could grab you a copy?