[11:04] <imbrandon_> 504 is breezy 606 is dapper
[11:04] <XVampireX> And  I'm wondering
[11:04] <pkrumins> aha
[11:04] <intelikey> no
[11:04] <jordan_> i use sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and how to start XFCE ?
[11:04] <intelikey> 5.4 is hoary
[11:04] <pkrumins> ah
[11:04] <imbrandon_> err yea horay, old old old
[11:04] <intelikey> 5.10 is breezy
[11:04] <XVampireX> I have 3.5.2 installed, do I need kubuntu repositories for 3.5.3/3.5.4?
[11:05] <intelikey> yeah a year old.
[11:05] <imbrandon_> jordan_: when your login window comes up there is a "menu" button
[11:05] <imbrandon_> XVampireX: yes
[11:05] <intelikey> woo hoo
[11:05] <XVampireX> imbrandon_: where do I get them?
[11:05] <jordan_> i now but there aren't be xfce
[11:05] <imbrandon_> kubuntu.org ;)
[11:05] <jordan_> only KDE :/
[11:06] <XVampireX> :-/
[11:06] <intelikey> well i'll be using dapper until the next debian release.
[11:06] <burepe> what is the command to tell how big my hd is?
[11:06] <XVampireX> df
[11:06] <lowercase> fdisk
[11:06] <burepe> thanks
[11:06] <imbrandon_> df -H will tell you about your mounts or fdisk -l
[11:06] <intelikey> fdisk -l
[11:07] <intelikey> lshw is good    if i understand your Q
[11:07] <imbrandon_> XVampireX: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[11:07] <jordan_> imbrandon_  i now but there aren't be xfce on ly KDE and last sesion
[11:08] <pkrumins> ok, see you later
[11:08] <imbrandon_> jordan_: then you dident get it installed all the way and / or dident restart kdm
[11:08] <pkrumins> just wanted to let you know the cds dont work
[11:08] <alex____> sup guys.
[11:08] <alex____> my name sucks
[11:08] <RSnake> hey,I need help here
[11:08] <imbrandon_> alex /nick newname
[11:09] <RSnake> I want to change my languages but when I go to Regional/Languages I can only choose between English or British English, I've already installed a language Package
[11:09] <alex____> lol okay
[11:09] <ricardo> has anybody tested the new kernel <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:09] <jordan_> imbrandon_ the first I have one error :
[11:09] <jordan_>  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:09] <jordan_> E: Nie udao si pobra niektrych archiww, sprbuj uruchomi apt-get update lub uy opcji --fix-missing
[11:10] <imbrandon_> jordan_: you need to fix your internet , apt-get update
[11:10] <intelikey> RSnake dpkg-reconfigure locales     if you mean you want to change it system wide
[11:11] <RSnake> where do I have to typ 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' ?
[11:11] <imbrandon_> konsole
[11:11] <RSnake> k,thx
[11:12] <plugs> does anyone have nicotine installed?
[11:12] <intelikey> prepend sudo
[11:12] <intelikey> it needs root permissions.
[11:13] <RSnake> how do I get root permissions ??
[11:13] <intelikey> why would a package sujest     Recommended packages:
[11:13] <intelikey>   linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 linux-image-2.6.15-23-k7
[11:13] <intelikey> i'm running linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[11:13] <RSnake> on Kununtu 'coz I've got Kubuntu
[11:14] <intelikey> prepend sudo
[11:14] <bbt> are there any unofficial repos with more recent / custom kernels ?
[11:15] <RSnake> intelikey,I don't understand this 'prepend sudo'-thing,I'm really new to Linux and such...
[11:15] <imbrandon_> RSnake: put "sudo" before the command
[11:15] <imbrandon_> to run as root
[11:15] <intelikey> prepend means put this in front of...     sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:15] <RSnake> ok,thx :p
[11:15] <intelikey> whereas append would mean follow with this...
[11:16] <intelikey> and the password is your user password.
[11:16] <RSnake> ok,thx a lot
[11:16] <intelikey> !sudo
[11:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <intelikey> for more info ^
[11:17] <imbrandon_> bbiab
[11:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !multiverse
[11:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !easysource
[11:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:19] <RSnake> intelikey,I've done exactly as you said but still,I can't only choose between English and British English when I'm in Regional/Languages
[11:19] <RSnake> should I reboot first ?
[11:20] <imbrandon_> did you install the kde lang packs also
[11:20] <intelikey> RSnake yes i think at least an X reset is required.
[11:21] <RSnake> I don't know,I just downloaded the NL Packages
[11:21] <RSnake> ok,I'll reboot and see if I can change it
[11:22] <intelikey> RSnake
[11:23] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-<your.nl>
[11:23] <Kabal> small question.. is it possible to do a condump in cli?
[11:24] <intelikey> he'll have bulgarian console that he never see's  and kde unchanged.
[11:24] <intelikey> Kabal not sure what 'condump' is but i have yet to find anything cli couldn't do
[11:24] <Kabal> with DOS it's possible.. in Quake also.. but how about deb? ;)
[11:25] <intelikey> what does a 'condump' do exactly ?
[11:26] <Kabal> copies the txt in cli to a file or whatever..
[11:26] <Azzco> I've got a question... the bind Control + Esc, what does it perform? I mean what program does it run so that I can ru it even if  I change WM
[11:26] <intelikey> tee ?
[11:26] <intelikey> command > file.
[11:26] <plugs> i'm trying to open Adept and it says "Su returned with an error." any ideas?
[11:27] <intelikey> use gpm and copy and paste the screen.
[11:27] <Azzco> logoff
[11:27] <Kabal> thanx intelikey I will try :)
[11:28] <intelikey> plugs means you can use sudo       to test this type   sudo echo yes
[11:29] <intelikey> if it asks for your password and then says yes.   you sudo ok.   if not,  you have no admin access.
[11:33] <intelikey> Kabal you can redirect the output of files in two way,  the pipe |  or the redirects > and >>    using a pipe you can use the output of one command as the input of another  i.e. cat /boot/Config* | more     with the redirrects you can print the output to another file.   i.e.  cat /boot/Config* > lists    or  cat /boot/Config* >> lists     the first will use the more pager to let you read one page at a time the file/s in que
[11:34] <intelikey> that contains the output of the files in question and the last will add the output of the cat command to the file 'lists'  if it already exists, or creat it if not.
[11:36] <intelikey> the command  'tee'   lets you view normal output while also sending the output to a file    i.e.  cat /boot/Config* | tee lists    <-- that one prints to the file and displays the output      on the other hand   gpm=general purpose mouse    is console mode mouse copy and pasting like the gui.
[11:37] <intelikey> Kabal there are also ways to 'dump' the display buffer to a file or to standard out.
[11:38] <grothesk> Where do I configure modules to be probed in kubuntu?
[11:38] <grothesk> Something like 'boot.local' in Suse.
[11:39] <intelikey> speaking of 'stdout'  something in cli use the 'stderr' standard error  to display text a normal redirect wont pick that up   use  2>  for stderr
[11:39] <intelikey> grothesk /etc/modules
[11:40] <intelikey> that's  2>  or  2|  for piping
[11:41] <intelikey> to tie stderr to stdout use  2>&1    then they will both be sent to stdout
[11:42] <intelikey> command 2>&1 > dump.file     <--- all output including error messages go in 'dump.file'
[11:43] <intelikey> more than you ever wanted to know.     ;/
[11:44] <luisillo> hello, what is the default path to Themes folder?
[11:45] <luisillo> anyone know where is located the themes folder in the linux partition?
[11:47] <intelikey> some place in /usr/share   i'd think  but there may be more than one.
[11:48] <intelikey> search     grep -HiRe theme /usr
[11:49] <luisillo> thx intelly
[11:49] <Kabal> intelikey: Thanx for all info :) got it noted
[11:50] <intelikey> yeah  np guys.
[11:51] <Karti> Hi all
[11:55] <egarim> exist a file where could i put my iptables rules in /etc/init.d or could i add into rc.local ?
[12:12] <D4m4ge> hello
[12:13] <jordan_> !xgl
[12:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:15] <rc--> hello
[12:16] <Lynoure> Does KDE quality setting for Ogg encoding automatically affect KAudioCreator?
[12:16] <rc--> how do I change my default session in kdm? (I apt-getted ubuntu-desktom) and now the default session is gnome, but I want it to be KDE)
[12:17] <rc--> s/desktom/desktop
[12:17] <Lynoure> KAudioCreator shows a commandline in it's Encoder settings and from that I'd kind of think it doesn't but if not, what does the KDE setting affect?
[12:21] <jordan_> enybody: I look for them to XFCE
[12:22] <rc--> I searched the forums and read man-page for Xsession and Xsession.options, but I can't find out where to change the default xsession
[12:26] <intelikey> .dmrc
[12:27] <intelikey> rc-- nano ~/.dmrc
[12:28] <jordan_> I have rendering on KDE but in XFCE no. how to get them ?
[12:32] <gan|y|med> hallo
[12:32] <gan|y|med> are there any backports for dapper already?
[12:34] <gan|y|med> hello?
[12:35] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, official or some others?
[12:35] <gan|y|med> is there a conference or what is going on?
[12:35] <gan|y|med> well, any.
[12:36] <gan|y|med> official would be best, but i have some nasty problems so i'll take what i can
[12:36] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, fore example there is a archive from the german kubuntu community with some nice packages
[12:37] <gan|y|med> well tell me about it.
[12:37] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, here's some list of the packages: http://packages.kubuntu.de/dapper_complete.php?i18m=en
[12:38] <emonkey-p> and there is another archive from the dutch ubuntu community with some nice packages (seveas)...maybe it is easier to help if you tell us more about your problem
[12:39] <emonkey-p> oh... yes and of course there are official kde 3.5.4 packages fpr dapper
[12:39] <emonkey-p> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[12:42] <gan|y|med> oh that's nice!
[12:42] <gan|y|med> well, basically i have several problems. one of it concerns kvpnc
[12:43] <gan|y|med> it is absolutely not reliable.
[12:43] <emonkey-p> ok... good luck with the upgrades...maybe it helps
[12:43] <gan|y|med> sometimes it starts (ps -A shows it) and takes space in the task line, but it is invisible
[12:44] <gan|y|med> sometime sit starts just fine, but it cannot take the cisco passwords and user name out of kwallet.
[12:44] <gan|y|med> and sometimes it just works fine... any ideas?
[12:45] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, no I've tryed it for while with another vpn client, unfortunatley it hasn't worked any time
[12:46] <gan|y|med> it has become much better, but still it is a mess. i wanna get rid of the command line for "normal work" (don't get me wrong, i love the console)
[12:47] <emonkey-p> no prob, i know what u mean
[12:48] <gan|y|med> now it wants to remove kdelibs-bin! is that right?
[12:49] <emonkey-p> gan|y|med, yes
[12:49] <emonkey-p> I've the same and it works fine
[12:56] <ganymed> sry, problems with wlan
[12:57] <ganymed> i am all the time losing my connection
[12:57] <ganymed> and nobody moves around a wall-mounted cisco router! that's really annoying!
[12:58] <ganymed> emonkey-p: can you tell me where to find the german and dutch repos?
[12:59] <emonkey-p> ganymed, http://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php?i18n=en&main=1&restricted=1&ubuntu=dapper&universe=1&multiverse=1&update=create&preview=1#list
[01:00] <emonkey-p> ganymed, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages?highlight=%28seveas%29
[01:02] <ganymed> thx
[01:13] <XVampireX> Hi, how do I install nfs in kubuntu?
[01:16] <XVampireX> Can anyone help?
[01:16] <jott> XVampireX: install nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server
[01:16] <XVampireX> which one?
[01:16] <jott> XVampireX: i use the kernel one.. works fine here..
[01:16] <XVampireX> alright :)
[01:18] <jott> XVampireX: you have to setup /etc/exports and hosts.allow and things like that of course..
[01:19] <XVampireX> jott: Oh :D
[01:19] <XVampireX> jott: can't I configure it through the GUI?
[01:20] <jott> XVampireX: uhm... can't tell you.. i guess there is a gui - but never needed one ;-) do a "man exports" ...
[01:20] <ganymed> ok, i cannot use pastebin, it doesn't work (time-out) so i'll paste a few line here.
[01:20] <jott> XVampireX: in a secure environment you probably do not need to restrict host access...
[01:21] <ganymed> i get this error when i start almost ANY app. it costs me at least one second, which is very annoying when using apwal.
[01:22] <ganymed> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[01:22] <ganymed>   Major opcode:  148
[01:22] <ganymed>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:22] <ganymed>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:22] <ganymed> Failed to open device
[01:22] <ganymed> and this twice. does anybody have this problem?
[01:22] <__osh___> ganymed: that's a xorg.conf thing about some weird pointer device. it's not harmful.
[01:23] <jott> ganymed: looks like the wacom input devices defined by default in the xorg.conf
[01:23] <ganymed> so i just deactivate it?
[01:23] <__osh___> jott: right, that weird pointer device...
[01:23] <ganymed> it is very "harmful" for my workflow
[01:23] <__osh___> ganymed: if you like to. can't hurt i suppose.
[01:24] <jott> __osh___: not that weird - i got one ;) but the default config is weird indeed ;-)
[01:24] <__osh___> jott: what is it then? a mouse? I have no idea.
[01:25] <intelikey> yes.  if you don't have any wacon devices remove all three in the xorg.conf and don't forget to remove the refferances to them at the bottom of the xorg.conf
[01:25] <intelikey> tablet
[01:25] <jott> __osh___: no this tablet things with pen.. or even a tabletpc with a touchpad...
[01:25] <ganymed> intelikey: thx for the hint
[01:26] <__osh___> jott: right. a weird input device, as in "not a keyboard, which is the true and right way to communicate with a computer". ;-)
[01:26] <ganymed> well, seems like one of the xorg developers has one :)
[01:27] <ganymed> thx for your help
[01:27] <ganymed> i am going to restart now. upgrade :)
[01:27] <jott> __osh___: hehe yeah disable all pointer devices under X.. who needs a mouse anyway ;-)
[01:27] <ganymed> jott: you don't believe how fast you can e with a mouse
[01:27] <intelikey> no prolly not.   more like one of the ubuntu team trying to make wacom 'just work' in *buntu
[01:28] <__osh___> jott: who needs X anyway. I've actually WORKED with punchcards. Not many people have done that today...
[01:28] <ganymed> it is not the mouse, it is the conventional way mouse interfaces are designed
[01:28] <nagyv> hello! anyone to help me in synching my mobile with korganizer? it's a Sony-Ericsson D750i.
[01:28] <ganymed> the m$ way. ups, that's the way kde uses...
[01:29] <jott> but one of those would be nice to have: http://www.wacom.com/pressinfo/photography/21UX_Illustration_lg.jpg  ;-)
[01:30] <ganymed> well, that has sth.
[01:30] <ganymed> ciao
[01:31] <intelikey> anyone here good with mouse problems ?     my ps2 two button wont work with xorg and gpm at the same time.  but will work with either.    any takers ?
[01:31] <jott> intelikey: i guess gpm blocks the device ;)
[01:32] <[Nige] > hi all,
[01:32] <jott> intelikey: afaik there is a gpm driver for X .....
[01:32] <intelikey> hmmm.
[01:33] <intelikey> jott doesn't turn up in an apt-cache search
[01:33] <[Nige] > I am having some huge problems with ati and big desktop - I cant seem to set my default display to use 2560x1024 i keep getting 1280x1024 and only 1 monitor function correctly
[01:33] <jott> intelikey: check if you have a /dev/gpmdata
[01:33] <[Nige] > if i type xrandr -s 11 ( which is 2560x1028) its works fine but I have to manually set that everytime.. its annoying.... this is an ATI raedon 9550 :(
[01:33] <nagyv> [Nige] : which ATi driver are you useing?
[01:33] <intelikey> jott ype
[01:33] <intelikey> yep
[01:33] <[Nige] > nagyv,  i am sure its the latest
[01:34] <[Nige] > nagyv, OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10)
[01:34] <[Nige] > 8.27.10
[01:34] <jott> try this one as X mouse device.. but without garantee ;) haven't used gpm since like 8 years ;)
[01:34] <nagyv> [Nige] : you mean the proprietary drivers?
[01:34] <intelikey> jott tried.  no go.
[01:35] <nagyv> [Nige] : there are three possibilities radeon/ati, fglrx, proprietary
[01:35] <intelikey> like i said mouse works in 'either or'  but not  'and'
[01:35] <[Nige] > nagyv, thse where the proprietary ones from ati site
[01:36] <jott> intelikey: there are some config for gpm to act as a repeater as far as i remember...
[01:36] <grothesk> Why is .xsession-errors flooded by each app that is running?
[01:36] <intelikey> jott yep set to     device=/dev/psaux
[01:36] <intelikey> repeat_type=ms3
[01:36] <intelikey> type=ps2
[01:36] <nagyv> [Nige] : do you need it for sure? did you tried the other ones?
[01:36] <grothesk> Mine is 2,3 MB now after 2 hours uptime.
[01:37] <[Nige] > i have tried the fglrx and same problem
[01:37] <[Nige] > i am pretty sure I have tried all three
[01:37] <[Nige] > both do the same thing....
[01:38] <jott> intelikey: The gpm repeater mode. If you start gpm with the "-R protocol" option, it will repeat all data it gets to the device /dev/gpmdata. Let us say, you have a ps2 type mouse and your gpm call looks like: gpm -t ps2 -Rmman then gpm gets your ps2 mouse data and tries to translate this into a mman packet, which it will emit to /dev/gpmdata. Unfortunately, gpm can translate to only a few protocols at the time of writing. Since gpm 1.18.1, these protocols to
[01:38] <jott> intelikey: just a quick "google hint" .. ;)
[01:39] <intelikey> jott commonly used command here.  tty6 [root#~]  gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -R ms3
[01:40] <jott> intelikey: hm.. and the gpmdata won't give you output? (like with cat /dev/gpmdata and move the mouse around)?
[01:41] <intelikey> yeah but the mouse don't move in X
[01:41] <jott> intelikey: but as i said i haven't used gpm for years so i can't really help you ... just blind guesses ;)
[01:41] <jott> intelikey: maybe the driver selected for the mouse does not match the protocol the gpmdata gives...
[01:42] <intelikey> driver selected    where ?
[01:42] <intelikey> in xorg.conf ?
[01:42] <jott> intelikey: yes... as long as cat /dev/gpmdata gives some output i guess xorg needs an other driver.. but don't ask me which one ...
[01:43] <intelikey> let me be forth comming with some pertanant info.    it works with kernel version 2.6.*  but i'm using 2.4.*
[01:43] <jott> intelikey: probably the ps2/ms3 stuff
[01:43] <root> is there a ubuntu chat client I can use to talk to people using msn?
[01:43] <intelikey> apply that to the same configs.   ^
[01:44] <intelikey> root gaim  does msn iirc   i don't do windows.
[01:44] <intelikey> hooper ^
[01:44] <jott> intelikey: hm strange.. no clue... :/
[01:44] <hooper> gaim?
[01:44] <intelikey> jott yeah me too.    thanks for the time of day though.
[01:44] <jott> np
[01:44] <intelikey> hooper it's an app on your system
[01:45] <hooper> k ;)
[01:46] <jott> hooper: for "k"ubuntu there is also kopete that supports msn....
[01:48] <intelikey> jott last fellow i talked to about this also wanted to know why i use 2.4 kernel   just in case you wondered i don't need an initrd and can boot from a dos floppy with the 2.4  the bare kernel wont fit on there for 2.6 and it also needs a 5m initrd    as things stand atm i'll be using the 2.4 for a while.
[01:48] <jott> intelikey: sure i thought it was on purpose ;)
[01:49] <intelikey> just thought you might be like most and wondered why.
[01:52] <intelikey> krap.  cant use the deb of vmware player cause it uses kernel 2.6.15-23    while the updater updated mine to 2.6.15-26      so the packages in the repos are out of sync it seems.
[01:53] <intelikey> i guess i could find the older deb and install it...   three kernels  </shakes head slowly>
[01:55] <BazziR> intelikey: 2.6.15-23 should be still on your disk, shouldn#t it?
[01:55] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks !
[01:55] <BazziR> and you might enable another repos to get vmware player updates
[01:56] <BazziR> +have to
[01:57] <Pupeno> does anybody know of a tool to generate XMLRPC requests ?
[01:58] <BluesKaj> what's the kernel version cmd ?...I forgot
[01:58] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: uname
[01:59] <intelikey> BazziR i don't normally keep things around long unless i think i might need to reinstall it.
[01:59] <BluesKaj> Pupeno, that just says linux
[01:59] <intelikey> BazziR thus updated kernel version stay long enough to make sure the new one boots.
[02:00] <BazziR> :)
[02:00] <intelikey> BluesKaj man uname
[02:03] <BluesKaj> intelikey, i guess I'm not clear ..just like to know which kernel version number 2.6.1 or whatever it is ?
[02:04] <grothesk_> *rant-mode*
[02:05] <grothesk_> Yesterdays kernel update messed up my udev rules. Soundcards were switched, so that mixer of my tvcard was snd0 und my main card was snd1.
[02:06] <grothesk_> I mean, I can configure it by myself (blacklisting saa7134 module and modprobing it later on...), but how should a so called newbee cope with it?
[02:07] <Russel> hiho
[02:08] <Russel> i have a little problem: kaffeine hangs at: kaffeine: WARNING: KXineWidget: No config file found, will create one...
[02:08] <Russel> any solutions?
[02:11] <gbr> hallo, hoe kom ik aan geluidskaart drivers?
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Complete Linux kernel on 386.
[02:15] <BluesKaj> This package will always depend on the latest complete Linux kernel available
[02:15] <BluesKaj> for 386
[02:15] <grothesk_> gbr: English please...
[02:16] <BluesKaj> does the above mean the kernel is self updating whenever a newer stable kernel is available ?
[02:16] <grothesk_> BluesKaj: Yes.
[02:17] <BluesKaj> cool , thx grothesk
[02:18] <gbr> Hello, I'm looking for drivers for my sound card cmi 8738. Can you help?
[02:30] <grothesk_> gbr: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8338%2C+CMI8738%2C+CMI8768&module=cmipci
[02:31] <grothesk_> gbr: Bur normally it should already run out-of-the-box.
[02:32] <grothesk_> gbr: Try: modprobe snd-cmipci
[02:33] <sjk> I downloaded the latest release of Kubuntu for the powerpc yesterday. I'm trying to install it on my Mac PowerBook G3 today. I get to the point where the installer tries to install the boot loader Yaboot, and I get the following error: "The installation of the yaboot loader failed. Please check the system log or the output on the third console. Warning: your system may be unbootable!"
[02:33] <gbr> thanks grothesk, I will try this immediately.
[02:33] <sjk> Does anyone have any hints to give me? And, where's the system log?
[02:53] <rodrigo_> Somebody could qive me the spanish channel?
[02:54] <cwraig> sorry no idea
[02:54] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:54] <ilia> hi. Can I customize a 64bit LiveCD from a 32 bit Kubuntu (on a 64bit PC)?
[02:54] <rodrigo_> ubotu: thank you very much!
[02:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about thank you very much! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:54] <BluesKaj> hehe
[02:55] <BluesKaj> ilia are you running 32 bit right now ?
[02:55] <ilia> yes, on a 64bit pc
[02:55] <ilia> I`ll chroot to the 64bit version to edit it, then build the casper image
[02:56] <BluesKaj> keep it that way ...the 64 bit didn't work very well on my 64 bit pc and I was advised to switch to 32bit, which I did due to the problems with broken pkges on the 64 bit vers
[02:57] <BluesKaj> sounds like you know more about compliling a kernel than I do :)
[02:57] <BluesKaj> casper ?
[03:00] <ilia> the livecd image is called "casper"
[03:11] <ricardo> hi...anybody used to XSLT?
[03:22] <shadedpast> is there a kubuntu equivilent of synaptec?
[03:23] <jfro> anybody know why i'd get a failed to create driver error when adding a printer with the system settings printer tool
[03:23] <abattoir> shadedpast: 'adept' KMenu->System
[03:23] <shadedpast> is there a program on kubuntu like synaptic for ubuntu?
[03:23] <shadedpast> k
[03:24] <Jack1> how can i configure konqueror that it always starts up with the f9 menu on the side?
[03:24] <nnn0> shadedpast: aptitude
[03:24] <shadedpast> thnx
[03:24] <nnn0> shadedpast: or Adept maybe
[03:24] <shadedpast> is aptitude like apt-get?
[03:25] <nnn0> Adept should be on the mennu
[03:25] <jfro> it's adept in kde
[03:25] <abattoir> Jack1: you can save it in a 'view profile' and load that profile when you launch konqueror
[03:25] <shadedpast> what is the command like apt-get is that also adept
[03:25] <cwraig_> what?
[03:25] <shadedpast> srry for being a noob
[03:26] <Jack1> abattoir i have only view mode..
[03:26] <cwraig_> adept is the update manager that is based on the apt-get command line
[03:26] <abattoir> Jack1: you can save it in that if you want... else you can create a new one
[03:26] <abattoir> shadedpast: you can use 'apt-get' too
[03:26] <shadedpast> o thnx
[03:26] <cwraig_> apt-get is the system that manages downloading and installing packages
[03:26] <shadedpast> that was what i wanted to know
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry guys, i need a hand with c++
[03:27] <cwraig_> and programs like adept (kde) and synaptic (gnome) are simply gui interfaces for apt-get
[03:27] <Jack1> ok thx abattoir
[03:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i use the following line to compile my program: gcc -I/usr/include/libxml2/ -L/usr/lib/ -llibxml2 main.c
[03:28] <cwraig_> i know its not a very kde thing to do but the first thing i do on a kubuntu install is sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but what i get is that he can't find libcml2
[03:28] <cwraig_> its a better gui package manager then adept
[03:28] <jfro> hmm
[03:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> libxml2*, i think i put the wrong value as pre-last argurment ( -l ), somebody of you can help me?
[03:28] <jfro> i haven't had much prob with adebt, i shoudl try synaptic tho
[03:29] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[03:29] <jfro> Tallia1Kubuntu: -lxml2
[03:29] <cwraig_> hi
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, let me try
[03:29] <Shinzetsu> Can someone help me? I ran ScummVM and all of a sudden my sound is gone
[03:29] <jfro> -l implies lib afaik
[03:29] <ubuntu_> im starting on Linux world
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jfro: have you ever used it? just to know :)
[03:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, i see
[03:29] <jfro> yeah i compiled a small libxml2 app once, well libxslt
[03:30] <ubuntu_> im installing Kubuntu
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ohhhh, you are right!!, glut and libGlut.so
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :D
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> thanks jfro
[03:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i really hope it will work :P
[03:30] <jfro> :)
[03:30] <shadedpast> what is the text editor for kubuntu lol
 you like it?
[03:30] <cwraig_> kate
[03:31] <cwraig_> sorry <shaded> kate is the editor
[03:31] <shadedpast> o ok
[03:31] <shadedpast> and where is sources.list located
 /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <shadedpast> is it the same?
[03:31] <shadedpast> o thnx
 the same as what?
[03:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jfro: grrrrr, the guy i was helping left... no comment ...
[03:32] <jfro> ah ha, printer driver isn't installed it looks like, might have found my prob =P
[03:33] <Shinzetsu> My sound icon in the tray is also gone
[03:35] <jfro> gnome-cups-manager wins
[03:36] <Shinzetsu> someone?
[03:37] <shadedpast> everytime i try to use kate i get "ERROR: cummunication problem with kate, it probably crashed"
[03:37] <TheGateKeeper> shadedpast: from the cli?
[03:38] <shadedpast> what? cli
[03:38] <shadedpast> ???
[03:38] <shadedpast> i type it in the konsole
[03:38] <shadedpast> im trying to edit sources.list
[03:38] <TheGateKeeper> shadedpast: <C>ommand <L>ine <I>nterpreter i.e. konsol
[03:39] <TheGateKeeper> ok
[03:39] <shadedpast> oh ok
[03:39] <TheGateKeeper> go to Run Command... and type in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jfro: do you have any idea of what this means? warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness
[03:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in the c++ compiler
[03:40] <shadedpast> k
[03:40] <jfro> Tallia1Kubuntu: not entirely, just that you have one variable that maybe is unsigned and assigning it to something signed, or vice versa, maybe
[03:40] <jfro> doesn't ncessarily mean it won't work tho, hehe
[03:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> xmlChar * xpath = "/foo[@bar='baz'] ";
[03:40] <shadedpast> nothing happens
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't really know what this mean :P
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> means*
[03:41] <jfro> Tallia1Kubuntu: does it work at least?
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> think so.. no errors after make
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> thanks a lots jfro :D
[03:41] <jfro> np
[03:41] <TheGateKeeper> shadedpast: can you start Kate from your utilities menu?
[03:47] <cwraig_> i dont think that kate is on the menu
[03:47] <jfro> aww it isn't
[03:47] <jfro> hehe
[03:48] <fredrik_> hello
[03:48] <fredrik_> need help
[03:48] <fredrik_> =)
[03:48] <jfro> blah, back to work
[03:48] <fredrik_> how do i format my disc??
[03:48] <eeos> hi there. I think I dentified one of the reason why cups 1.2.2 does not work after install on amd64
[03:48] <fredrik_> the c: drive?
[03:48] <eeos> I want to check my findings
[03:49] <fredrik_> and how do i switch server? to efnet?
[03:49] <eeos> anyone who is investigatng this issue is here?
 you need Qtparted
[03:50] <fredrik_> what?
[03:50] <fredrik_> i want to format it that i can install xp, then i can split my hdd and install kubuntu too
[03:51] <fredrik_> but my computer dont accept xp now. it can find the hhd in xp install
[03:52] <Vliegendehuiskat> allright
[03:52] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyone awake?
[03:52] <cwraig_> fyea
[03:52] <cwraig_> im awake
[03:53] <cwraig_> yea there is a partitioner called qtparted
[03:53] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[03:53] <Vliegendehuiskat> prolly
[03:53] <cwraig_> its on the knoppix distro if you cant get it for kubuntu
[03:53] <cwraig_> i know you can apt0get it
[03:54] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[03:54] <Vliegendehuiskat> and what my problem is is that i don't have a clue about cif webcams in linux
[03:55] <cwraig_> nup i cant help ya
[03:56] <BluesKaj> ok I've DL'd and extracted Flashplayer as instructed and tried to run trhe installer as instructed in the notes , but I keep getting this message .. bash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> frhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=linux+tutorial
[03:57] <baskew> BluesKaj: maybe you need to cd into that dir you just extracted
[03:58] <Shinzetsu> I  ran ScumMVM and now my sound is gone (also the sound icon in the tray)
[03:59] <BluesKaj> bask how ?
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> fredrik_: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=linux+tutorial
[03:59] <BluesKaj> baskew,
[04:00] <baskew> BluesKaj: you need to unpack the installer (if you haven't already) then do "cd <unpacked_dir>" with out quotes, and <unpacked_dir>= whater the name of the dir is when you unpacked it
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ok , baskew , I'm there , now what ?
[04:00] <otamendim> buenos dias, disculpen alguien podria ayudarme a aclarar una duda
[04:00] <baskew> BluesKag: do an ls -al do  see if the flashplayer_installer is there
[04:01] <baskew> BluesKag: if so, then you should now be able to ./flashplayer-installer
[04:01] <BluesKaj> ok  baskew , got it ,thz :)
[04:01] <otamendim> tengo kubuntu, y cuando intento guardar un archivo de openoffice en un dispositivo extraible como un pen drive o diskette,...
[04:01] <BluesKaj> thx
[04:01] <baskew> BluesKKag: np
[04:02] <otamendim> ...me dice que salvar usando el protocolo media no esta soportado
[04:02] <otamendim> si alguien puede ayudarme se lo agradeceria, GRACIAS
[04:02] <abattoir> !es
[04:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:02] <abattoir> otamendim: apt-zip might be useful
[04:02] <ubuntu_> woooot
[04:02] <ubuntu_> i have a big problem
[04:03] <ubuntu_> i cant install Kubuntu with Win XP on my SATA drive
[04:03] <ubuntu_> :(
[04:03] <Shinzetsu> someone?
[04:03] <otamendim> thank you man, I'm sorry
[04:03] <ubuntu_> I get an error : Fail loading SO
[04:04] <baskew> sorry Shinzetsu,  dont know
[04:04] <ubuntu_> damnit
[04:04] <BluesKaj> hmmm ,
[04:04] <BluesKaj> Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[04:04] <BluesKaj>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[04:05] <baskew> BluesKaj: just move that file, like mv /usr/local/mozilla/components/xpti.dat /usr/local/mozilla/components/xpti.dat.BACK or something
[04:05] <baskew> BluesKag: I dont know where the mozilla dir is exactly, im not on my machine right now
[04:06] <baskew> BluesKaj: if you install it in your home dir look in ~/.mozilla
[04:08] <baskew> BluesKaj: if you cant find it try locate xpti.dat
[04:09] <dhq> is there any tool like dreamweaver for kubuntu
[04:10] <grothesk> dhq: nvu
[04:10] <grothesk> !nvu
[04:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvu - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:10] <grothesk> :-(
[04:10] <BazziR> !info nvu
[04:10] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 8343 kB, installed size 26440 kB
[04:10] <abattoir> dhq: quanta too
[04:10] <grothesk> <--- Stupid...
[04:10] <ubuntu_> damn i need help
[04:10] <abattoir> !info quanta
[04:10] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 2295 kB, installed size 5600 kB
[04:11] <dhq> abattoir: is it a easy interface
[04:11] <ubuntu_> i have formated hard disk seven times
[04:11] <ubuntu_> i cant run linux with XP
[04:11] <ubuntu_> GRUB sux
[04:12] <abattoir> dhq: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/screenshots.php
[04:13] <grothesk> ubuntu_: GRUB even boots a OS from a piece of paper where 'OS' is written on...
[04:14] <Gh0st75> mornin folks
[04:16] <gplfighter> morning?
[04:16] <gplfighter> here it is 4.15 pm
[04:19] <Gh0st75> well, mornin where i am.....11:45am here
[04:19] <gplfighter> lol
[04:19] <gplfighter> us?
[04:19] <EsKapade_> exit
[04:19] <Gh0st75> nope, Newfoundland, Canada
[04:19] <gplfighter> k
[04:19] <ubuntu_> SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUX
[04:20] <gplfighter> ow, ther :-)
[04:20] <Gh0st75> easternmost part of north america, heh
[04:20] <gplfighter> i see
[04:20] <ubuntu_> im hating kuguntu
[04:20] <ubuntu_> IAIAHAHAA
[04:20] <gplfighter> ?
[04:20] <gplfighter> why?
[04:20] <ubuntu_> i have a headache
[04:20] <ubuntu_> :((
[04:20] <ubuntu_> its imposible
[04:20] <gplfighter> :p
[04:20] <ubuntu_> i want use linux
[04:20] <ubuntu_> but
[04:21] <baskew> ubuntu_: have you prepared the disks properly
[04:21] <ubuntu_> i cant install Kubuntu and XP
[04:21] <baskew> or disk
[04:21] <Gh0st75> i have kubunto and xp dual booted for lan gaming purposes, i didn't have any trouble at all, and am first time nix user
[04:21] <ubuntu_> :S
[04:21] <baskew> i dua boot xp, and ubuntu as well
[04:21] <ubuntu_> i have kubuntu 6.06 CD
[04:21] <baskew> *dual
[04:21] <ubuntu_> and XP SP2
[04:21] <ubuntu_> at first
[04:22] <ubuntu_> i install XP on my SATA
[04:22] <ubuntu_> next, i install kubuntu
[04:22] <Gh0st75> i just popped the awesome live DVD / install DVD into my drive and rebooted, and chose to install it on boot (xp already on the system. it let me make partitions and installed on one i chose almost effortlessly
[04:22] <ubuntu_> and i select install on /dev/sda
[04:22] <ubuntu_> SCSI SATA disk
[04:23] <ubuntu_> and i reduce winxp partition to 40%
[04:23] <Gh0st75> my sata drive isn't scsi but that shouldn't make a huge difference
[04:23] <ubuntu_> but
[04:23] <ubuntu_> when kubuntu finish
[04:23] <ubuntu_> i reboot and GRUB doesnt load
[04:23] <ubuntu_> i get the message: Fail loading SO
[04:24] <baskew> did you make /boot part
[04:24] <Gh0st75> can't say i've had that problem
[04:24] <Gh0st75> you chose two partitions, one for / and one for swap right?
[04:24] <ubuntu_>  /boot part?
[04:24] <ubuntu_> i try that too
[04:25] <ubuntu_> i tried that too*
[04:25] <nagyv> ubuntu_: a couple of month ago I tried to use a Knoppix CD on a SATA drive, and it could not start neither. It can happen that your SATA is khmm... too much new
[04:25] <baskew> yeah i used a 100mB /boot partition at beginning of drive
[04:25] <ubuntu_> but i have the same error
[04:25] <ubuntu_> kubuntu make it
[04:25] <baskew> khmm
[04:25] <ubuntu_> i only select install on SATA
[04:26] <ubuntu_> where XP is installed
[04:26] <ubuntu_> and i use scrollbar to reduce partition
[04:26] <ubuntu_> do you know?
[04:27] <ubuntu_> well
[04:27] <baskew> are u able to boot into xp after the kubuntu install finishes
[04:27] <ubuntu_> no
[04:27] <ubuntu_> i cant
[04:27] <ubuntu_> i try fixmbr
[04:27] <ubuntu_> i've tried
[04:28] <ubuntu_> fixmbr and bootcfg but its impossible
[04:28] <Gh0st75> scsi drive you're using not supported yet maybe?
[04:28] <ubuntu_> i think that kubuntu crash MBR sector
[04:28] <ubuntu_> its a SATA Maxtor 120 Gb
[04:28] <nagyv> Is there any way to automatically mount an USB winchester at startup if it is present? I mean are there any shell scripts or something?
[04:28] <baskew> you said it calls it /dev/sda?
[04:28] <ubuntu_> kubuntu recognice it
[04:28] <ubuntu_> yeah
[04:29] <ubuntu_> SO detects hda (my ide drive) and sda (my sata drive)
[04:29] <baskew> weird, thats how my flash drive is detected
[04:29] <ubuntu_> and i select to install on sda because i have important data on hda
[04:30] <ubuntu_> kubuntu runs perfectly without XP installed
[04:30] <ubuntu_> but i cant manage the boot sector
[04:31] <ubuntu_> i am going to reset, thx guys
[04:31] <baskew> good luck
[04:33] <fir3st0rm> how can i configure kde to use the samba 'share' dialog in konqueror?
[04:39] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: what are you trying to do, have you got windows boxes trying to look at shares on a linux box?
[04:41] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: yes, i have
[04:41] <fir3st0rm> sharing works, but only with root access in the control center
[04:42] <fir3st0rm> i want to use the 'share' dialog in konqueror to share files (without root access)
[04:43] <waylandbill> is there instructions for updating to 3.5.4?
[04:44] <Tm_T> waylandbill: have you read kubuntu.org ?
[04:44] <mario> !list
[04:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:44] <waylandbill> Tm_T, HA! obviously I didn't thanks.
[04:45] <narvik86> how can i download all JPG files from server? wget -r and?
[04:45] <mario> !list
[04:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:45] <Tm_T> waylandbill: yeah, I know, it's too obvious ;)
[04:45] <Tm_T> mario: stop raping the bot
[04:46] <trappist> narvik86: depends how you want to do it.  man wget for details.
[04:46] <ubuntu> hi dudes
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: easiest way is to install samba then create a directory, then go to System Settings -> Sharring and set it up from there
[04:46] <mario> help
[04:46] <ubuntu> see, i have two options to install WinXp and ubuntu
[04:46] <ubuntu> on /dev/hda Master IDE (hda) 160Gb
[04:47] <Tm_T> mario: you can't get any help if you don't tell what is your problem
[04:47] <ubuntu> or /dev/sda: SCS1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 122,9 Gb
[04:47] <narvik86> trappist but i cant do it :/ i tried -i *.JPG but it is downloading ither files
[04:47] <Tm_T> ubuntu: and?
[04:47] <ubuntu> i cant install XP and kubuntu
[04:47] <hsn_> !mp3
[04:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:48] <ubuntu> and my hard drive isnt SCSI, its SATA
[04:48] <Tm_T> ubuntu: sata is scsi-based, so equal
[04:48] <ubuntu> if i install, firts, XP, and next, y use this wizard
[04:48] <ubuntu> Tm_T ok ;)
[04:48] <ubuntu> but the problem is
[04:49] <ubuntu> i always get : Fail to load SO
[04:49] <waylandbill> ubuntu, yes. Install XP first then the installer will find it and put in Grub.
[04:49] <ubuntu> no
[04:49] <ubuntu> XD
[04:49] <Tm_T> interesting
[04:49] <ubuntu> grub dont work
[04:49] <ubuntu> installer wont find XP
[04:49] <ubuntu> grub doesnt work
[04:49] <Tm_T> ubuntu: in where you get that error? you have all installed and then? or during install?
[04:50] <ubuntu> Tm_T:
[04:50] <ubuntu> see
[04:50] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: you mean control center->internet&network->file sharing?
[04:50] <ubuntu> at firts
[04:50] <trappist> narvik86: try -A *.jpg
[04:50] <ubuntu> i format all drives
[04:50] <ubuntu> mi SATA and my UDMA
[04:50] <ubuntu> next, i install WinXP on SATA
[04:50] <ubuntu> perfect
[04:51] <ubuntu> i reboot the pc and i use the kubuntu installer
[04:51] <ubuntu> kubuntu recognize my drives correctly
[04:51] <narvik86> trappist i wiil try, thanks
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: yes, you using gnome ubuntu?
[04:51] <ubuntu>  dev/hda (udma) and dev/sda (sata)
[04:51] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: no, debian sid+e17 to be honest
[04:52] <Shannon1> hi everyone,, can anyone help me with internal modem config,, it connect, stays on only for few second and gives me error message''remote is required to authenticate itself but .....
[04:52] <ubuntu> im using KDE
[04:52] <ubuntu> well
[04:52] <ubuntu> i select dev/sda
[04:52] <Shannon1> couldnt find any suitable secret password fo tit to use
[04:52] <fir3st0rm> TheGateKeeper: but there are a lot of kde apps installed
[04:52] <Shannon1> none of the available password would let it use an IP
[04:52] <ubuntu> and i use the scrollbar to reduce the SATA partition
[04:52] <ubuntu> where XP is installed
[04:53] <ubuntu> installer say me that it will use the free space of partition
[04:53] <TheGateKeeper> fir3st0rm: ohhh well hope it's the same, long time since I have debian, and sid is a bit long in the tooth :-)
[04:53] <ubuntu> installer runs perfectly and
[04:53] <ubuntu> when i reboot pc
[04:53] <BluesKaj> Shannon1, that could be your ISP asking for your password that you have previously setup with them, do you remember it
[04:53] <ubuntu> i get at dos the message
[04:54] <ubuntu> fail to load S.O
[04:54] <ubuntu> there arent grub messages
[04:54] <ubuntu> only: fail to load SO
[04:55] <ubuntu> i dont know
[04:55] <ubuntu> but i have formated my hard disk 7 times
[04:55] <ubuntu> im tired
[04:55] <Shannon1> the password are ok,, on 2 ISP that I have,, it connect verify and disconnect,, modem does the same thing on the 2 ISP same mesage,, can it be a config that my laptop doesnt answer back for some reason,, I have to authenticate when Im wired on network,, and it works fine ,, same authentication on modem cant stay connected
[04:56] <narvik86> can you use fixmbr in win rescue console and later grub-install?
[04:56] <ubuntu> Tm_T
[04:56] <ubuntu> narvik86
[04:56] <narvik86> ?
[04:56] <ubuntu> i can use
[04:56] <ubuntu> but
[04:56] <ubuntu> it cant repare XP partition
[04:57] <ubuntu> i only can format
[04:57] <ubuntu> another time
[04:57] <waylandbill> from the repair console you can use fixmbr
[04:57] <ubuntu> yes
[04:57] <ubuntu> i use
[04:57] <ubuntu> fixmbr
[04:57] <narvik86> but fixmbr erases only mbr
[04:57] <ubuntu> and reset the PC
[04:57] <narvik86> and when booting for windiows is ok
[04:58] <ubuntu> but i get the same message
[04:58] <ubuntu> fail to load SO
[04:58] <Gh0st75> ok, just spent an hour tryin to get mp3s workin and no luck, will try again after lunch, am hungry, lol
[04:59] <ubuntu> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[04:59] <ubuntu>   well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[04:59] <ubuntu>   Se formatearn las siguientes particiones:
[04:59] <ubuntu>      particin #1 de /dev/sda como ext3
[04:59] <ubuntu>      particin #5 de /dev/sda como intercambio
[04:59] <trappist> narvik86: wget -r --no-parent -A.jpg http://server.com
[04:59] <ubuntu> :((((
[05:00] <ubuntu> i will try to use UDMA drive
[05:00] <ubuntu> instead of SATA
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: Have you tried the alternative cd ?
[05:00] <narvik86> what about other bootloaders?
[05:00] <ubuntu> i dont know how to use it
[05:01] <ubuntu> i hope that the installer make it easy :D
[05:01] <ubuntu> its no normal
[05:01] <ubuntu> its simple, install wxp, install linux in the same drive,
[05:01] <ubuntu> reduce xp partition
[05:02] <ubuntu> reboot and grub should happen
[05:02] <ubuntu> should show it
[05:02] <ubuntu> excuse my bad english
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> Its no more difficult to use than the other installer (but works alot better)
[05:04] <ubuntu> i have lost 4 days formating and installing
[05:04] <ubuntu> :O
[05:04] <ubuntu> im newbie with linux
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: Have you tried using the alternative cd yet ?
[05:04] <ubuntu> h3sp4wn no  i am using the normal liveCD
[05:05] <cryistal> hi guys!
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: The normal live cd sometimes has problems with serial ata drives
[05:05] <ubuntu> narvik86 i cant use private msg
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: But the alternative one (even though its text based) should work fine
[05:05] <ubuntu> im not registered
[05:05] <ubuntu> h3sp4wn i'll try then :D
[05:05] <cryistal> Yesterday I installed Kubuntu for the first time, it's wonderful!
[05:06] <narvik86> ubuntu there are instructions how to register, one command
[05:06] <hooper> does anybody know who I can talk to to work through a compiler setup problem?
[05:06] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: Ideally you don't want to have to resize the partitions (just only use part of the drive for windows when you install it)
[05:07] <ubuntu> mm
[05:08] <ubuntu> i dont understand
[05:08] <ubuntu> when i install linux or win?
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> If you are reinstalling both you may as well just make windows only use part of the disk
[05:09] <ubuntu> h3sp4wn, i get the error using all space of SATA for ubuntu
[05:09] <ubuntu> too
[05:09] <ubuntu> without XP
[05:09] <|lostbyte|> Hi, how is the draback for using a linux program from a fat fs and viseversa ?
[05:10] <|lostbyte|> how/what*
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> Well just use all the space of the sata from the alternative installer and it should work fine (if you have windows on another disk - don't know why you would really want to though)
[05:10] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: fat doen not know about unix rights.
[05:10] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, ok and..
[05:11] <ubuntu> i will try another time
[05:11] <ubuntu> now, im installing kubuntu
[05:11] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: Usually you can't even execute programms from a fat partition.
[05:11] <ubuntu> without XP
[05:11] <ubuntu> on SATA
[05:11] <ubuntu> if i get the same error
[05:11] <narvik86> but try alternative cd
[05:11] <ubuntu> i will use UDMA
[05:11] <ubuntu> yes
[05:11] <ubuntu> i will try too
[05:11] <|lostbyte|> will the program/music run slow...
[05:11] <sebbar> hey people can you tell me if there is a firefox extension which tells me whenever a certain internet site has been updated?
[05:12] <ubuntu> thx guys!
[05:12] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: mp3 will not run slow.
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> RSS?
[05:12] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: executables will not run afaik.
[05:12] <sebbar> no, just a regular site. Is that possible?
[05:12] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, and as i have large space alocated on for linux, only 5 GB for zp, what will i experiance for running a game from ext2 on xp.. ?
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, well thats specifically what RSS is for
[05:13] <|lostbyte|> zp/xp*
[05:13] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: Do you have drivers fr ext2 in windows?
[05:13] <grothesk> ext2fs are they called, afaik.
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> sebbar, no idea, the only thing I can think of is RSS
[05:14] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, yes, those ones.
[05:14] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: I really don't know. Linux only here.
[05:14] <sebbar> so if i'd like to be kept updated on planetkde.org there is no way?
[05:15] <clojster> holla
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> sebbar, http://planetkde.org/rss20.xml
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> the RSS feed
[05:16] <clojster> is there easy way to grab iso from CD/DVD/Directory in KDE?
[05:16] <clojster> any application?
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> clojster, bchunk?
[05:16] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, ok ! as i use only windows for games, at the same time want to give it very little space.. so i encounter a filesystem crossing execution process.and i dont know if i am really getting the full processing power or am loosing it in fs to fs transfer.
[05:16] <clojster> Admiral_Chicago: thanks, i'm gonna try
[05:16] <sebbar> excellent, tnx
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i dont know if thats what you want but bchunk is what i use to make iso out of bin/cue
[05:17] <clojster> nono
[05:17] <grothesk> |lostbyte|: I think so...
[05:17] <clojster> I want just to grab DVD into ISO to my HDD
[05:17] <|lostbyte|> grothesk, k
[05:17] <lens> I was wondering if anyone could help me compile this program... I have 2 folders and 1 file... the two folders are NICOLE (the name of the program) and NICOLE-PHP... then there is a .db file (database)... do I need all of these to install?  whats with the DB and PHP file, do I need to put them into the main NICOLE folder before I compile??
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> clojster, oh, well yea bchunk isn't for that
[05:18] <clojster> in Gnome its the matter of one right click... i want something simple like that in kde... there must be tool for this
[05:18] <grothesk> clojster: k9copy
[05:18] <waylandbill> clojster: I use k9copy to dump a DVD to my HDD.
[05:18] <clojster> k9copy keeps crashing all the time...
[05:18] <waylandbill> grothesk has quicker fingers.
[05:19] <clojster> and i dont need to shrink the dvd... just grab it full
[05:19] <grothesk> clojster: k9copy
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> clojster: just use dd
[05:19] <clojster> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/foo/bar.iso?
[05:20] <|lostbyte|> !rescue
[05:20] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> clojster: dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso (/dev/cdrom is probably just a link just the same)
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> clojster: then you can just do sudo mount -o loop bar.iso /media/dvdimage
[05:27] <lens> I'm still trying to get this program to install, would anyone check out my pastebin, I would appreciate it.  http://pastebin.ca/115400
[05:28] <Gh0st75-away> does kubuntu have a comic book reader akin to CDisplay? i expected one to be called Komix or something, hehe
[05:32] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Ping
[05:32] <stanks> hi
[05:33] <stanks> i need some help
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> stanks, whats the problem
[05:33] <stanks> i have one movie on cd with extension mpg
[05:33] <stanks> i can watch it in my standalone dvd player
[05:33] <BluesKaj> strange ...I logged in from the cmd line and startx gave me the gnome desktop :)...I normally us kde but I was trying to start xgl
[05:33] <stanks> i try to convert one vcd movie
[05:34] <stanks> extracting mpg file was ok
[05:34] <rikioh> are you wanting to watch it on your computer or what?
[05:34] <stanks> and when i want to watch it on standalone dvd i can't
[05:34] <stanks> dvd says no audio no data track found
[05:35] <stanks> what is the problem
[05:35] <rikioh> have you watched a vcd on that dvd player before?
[05:35] <stanks> yes
[05:35] <stanks> and mpg files
[05:35] <stanks> but this mpg file is dead
[05:36] <stanks> everything is fine on comp
[05:36] <brandon_> konq is opening links as chached text files instead of as webpages
[05:36] <rikioh> you using the same kind of cd's as before?
[05:36] <stanks> yes
[05:36] <rsosborn> hello all
[05:36] <narvik86> hi
[05:36] <rsosborn> does anyone know the command to show hidden files from the terminal
[05:36] <rikioh> did you burn the cd as slow as you can
[05:36] <stanks> even try to make dvd structure of this mpg file
[05:36] <rsosborn> I'm trying to edit .htaccess file for oscommerce
[05:36] <stanks> no...i set max speed :-D
[05:37] <narvik86> ls -a
[05:37] <rsosborn> I need to make sure it have username and password protected
[05:37] <rikioh> try to burn it as slow as you can
[05:37] <stanks> ok
[05:37] <narvik86> rsosborn ls -a
[05:38] <rikioh> what program did you use to convert it or w/e u did
[05:38] <rsosborn> let me try thanks
[05:38] <stanks> i extract mpg with vcdxrip
[05:38] <rsosborn> narvik: one more question in Kubuntu what is the command to edit file
[05:38] <rsosborn> I know in ubuntu it was gedit
[05:38] <stanks> then avidemux to set some things
[05:38] <rsosborn> I tried kedit
[05:39] <rsosborn> but didn't work
[05:39] <narvik86> kate
[05:39] <stanks> that is all
[05:39] <rsosborn> att
[05:39] <rsosborn> ahh
[05:39] <narvik86> kwrite can be also
[05:40] <rikioh> whats the irc command to connect to a second server
[05:40] <Kr4t05> rikioh: it depends.
[05:41] <rikioh> i just wanna be on 2 servers at once
[05:41] <brandon_> can somebody try soemthing for me?
[05:41] <narvik86> yes
[05:41] <Kr4t05> rikioh: just type /server irc.newserver.com
[05:41] <Kr4t05> It should open a new tab.
[05:41] <rikioh> and ill still be connected here?
[05:41] <brandon_> narvik86: are you talking to me?
[05:41] <narvik86> yes
[05:42] <brandon_> which version of kde are you using?
[05:42] <Gh0st75> rikioh, i just went to file->serverlist and clicked new, added the new server and clicked connect
[05:42] <narvik86> brandon_ 3.5.4 i think
[05:42] <Gh0st75> and am currently on two servers at the moment
[05:42] <brandon_> narvik86: do you have amarok?
[05:42] <narvik86> brandon_ yes but im using beepmediaplayer
[05:42] <brandon_> narvik86: please start amarok
[05:43] <narvik86> brandon_ already
[05:43] <brandon_> narvik86: start playing a song and go to the context menu. click the lyrics tab
[05:43] <brandon_> narvik86: now click the "add" button
[05:44] <brandon_> narvik86: it should open a link in konqueror
[05:44] <rikioh> ok it worked
[05:44] <Gh0st75> great
[05:44] <narvik86> brandon_ wait a second
[05:47] <brandon_> narvik86: click the "context" button on the far left. the lyrics tab will be on the top after that
[05:48] <narvik86> brandon_ konqueror opens my home directory
[05:48] <brandon_> narvik86: when you click the add button?
[05:49] <dognews> hi
[05:49] <narvik86> brandon_ yes
[05:49] <narvik86> brandon_ but know it open webpage
[05:49] <brandon_> narvik86: it doesn't open a submit page or a cached php file?
[05:49] <dognews> has anyone of you tried out xgl on kubuntu?
[05:50] <narvik86> brandon_ i clicked something above add, to star lirycs "searcher"
[05:50] <Gh0st75> not i, i've only just got kubuntu installed, not too deep yet, just up to my elbows in the basics :)
[05:50] <brandon_> narvik86: you clicked the search button?
[05:50] <narvik86> brandon_ it opens now in example: http://lyrc.com.ar/en/add/add.php?grupo=Sum%2041&tema=The%20Hell%20Song&disco=Does%20This%20Look%20Infected&ano=0
[05:52] <narvik86> brandon_ for search is: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=lyrics%20%22Sum%2041%22%20%22The%20Hell%20Song%22
[05:52] <brandon_> narvik86: that's the actual address that konq opens?
[05:53] <narvik86> brandon_ when i press which button?
[05:53] <brandon_> search
[05:53] <narvik86> brandon_ http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=lyrics%20%22Sum%2041%22%20%22Hooch%22  for actually song
[05:54] <narvik86> brandon_ sorry for my english
[05:54] <brandon_> it's alright
[05:56] <narvik86> brandon_ when i clicked Lyrics, i also clicked something to start lyrics searching
[05:56] <samuel_> Hmm, using amarok in Edgy, it ask if i want to install mp3 support, if i choose No it ask to enable universe repository! :/
[05:57] <Gh0st75> i've managed to enable the universe and multiverse repositories, but still can't get kaffeine to play my mp3s
[05:58] <dognews> Gh0st75: did you install the codecs?
[05:58] <dognews> try easyubuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[05:59] <Gh0st75> i went into adept package manager and did searches for xvid, divx and mp3 and installed any that seemed related to playback
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: try libxine-extracodecs
[06:00] <dognews> Gh0st75: I did it with easyubuntu and it worked fine - you can select what you want to have (also flash stuff and skype,...)
[06:00] <DaSkreech> cart: Sounds like a bug
[06:00] <Gh0st75> that one was one a website told me to look for, but it wasn't in the list under Adept
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: libxine-extracodecs isn't there?
[06:00] <Gh0st75> nope DaSkreech
[06:00] <Gh0st75> libxine ones were there, but not the extracodecs one
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Did you click Fetch Updates?
[06:01] <Gh0st75> yes
[06:01] <Gh0st75> i clicked that after enabled the multiverse and universe repositories
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Do you have libxine1c2?
[06:01] <Gh0st75> checking...
[06:01] <cart> DaSkreech: Yeap, is Edgy afterall! :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> cart: Might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <aliasfred> q. what is the page where riddel describe the current issue of kde 3.5.4 with kubuntu ?
[06:03] <Gh0st75> k, installin libxine1c2 there now
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: No don't install it :)
[06:03] <aliasfred> !kde3.5.4
[06:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde3.5.4 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: I just wanted to know if you had it in the list
[06:03] <Gh0st75> doh
[06:04] <Gh0st75> k, cancelled that
[06:04] <DaSkreech> and there is no libxine-extracodecs?
[06:04] <Gh0st75> nope
[06:05] <DaSkreech> what do you get when you search for xine-extra ?
[06:06] <Gh0st75> ooh, tried a search for it and it found it
[06:06] <Gh0st75> after scanning it manually several times, lol
[06:07] <Gh0st75> installin it now
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: Search rock (google's) world
[06:10] <PingunZ> How can I save flash movies I see in firefox ?
[06:11] <aliasfred> PingunZ: dunno, but get the url of the flash file and do a wget
[06:11] <aliasfred> then mplayer or other video player may play it
[06:11] <waylandbill> PingunZ: use wget to fetch the file
[06:12] <PingunZ> TY
[06:14] <aztun> hi
[06:14] <aztun> has been solved the bug with kubuntu-default-settings on last kde packages??
[06:15] <rsosborn> does anyone know about oscommerce?
[06:15] <rsosborn> I'm trying to edit .htaccess
[06:15] <aztun> I tried it few weeks ago rsosborn
[06:15] <rsosborn> to protect my /admin
[06:16] <rsosborn> I used a .htaccess generator
[06:16] <rsosborn> but it still doesn't ask for username and password
[06:16] <rsosborn> any ideas?
[06:16] <rsosborn> I think it may be the path I'm using
[06:16] <rsosborn> I tried /var/www/public_html/catalog/admin/
[06:17] <aliasfred> rsosborn: ask appache to accept this option :)
[06:17] <rsosborn> which is where it is
[06:17] <rsosborn> I use webmin
[06:17] <rsosborn> any idea where that would be
[06:17] <rsosborn> I'm still learning
[06:17] <aliasfred> dont remember, but i know there is one
[06:18] <aztun> dont remember rsosborn
[06:18] <rsosborn> let me play around with this idea
[06:18] <rsosborn> thanks
[06:18] <aztun> try "grep -R  htaccess /etc/apache2/*
[06:18] <aztun> try "grep -R  htaccess /etc/apache2/*"
[06:19] <aztun> to find it
[06:19] <Gh0st75> mp3s and xvid/divx playin fine now, thanks for the help folks :)
[06:20] <rikioh> did you just burn it slower or?
[06:20] <brandon_> i need to put konqueror back to 100% default status
[06:21] <aztun> brandon_: konqueror misconfigured when u upgraded kde?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: You good?
[06:23] <brandon_> aztun: no, it was misconfigured b4 that
[06:27] <Gh0st75> yeah DaSkreech, all my media's playin now, thanks kindly
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Gh0st75: Sure.
[06:28] <Gh0st75> my to-do list for windows-linux transition is gettin lots shorter now
[06:29] <damian_> anyone know the url to the ubuntu documentation on vnc over ssh?
[06:30] <Hawkwind> damian_: Search the wiki, it's probably there
[06:32] <larson9999> Gh0st75: what do you have left?
[06:35] <bytefoo> does anyones kmixer every freak out and hit 99% cpu :|
[06:35] <bytefoo> ever*
[06:38] <sensei> !mp3
[06:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <jon_> hello ?
[06:42] <tsdgeos> hi
[06:44] <sensei> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:44] <sensei> Gah, which repo contains libxine-extracodecs?
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> sensei, multiverse or universe is my guess
[06:44] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[06:44] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:45] <abattoir> sensei: ^^^^^
[06:45] <sensei> I have them uncommented and have done a successful apt-get update
[06:45] <sensei> The multi and universe that is
[06:45] <[GuS] > sensei, multiverse
[06:46] <sensei> [GuS] : multi = multiverse in this case :)
[06:46] <[GuS] > i know
[06:46] <abattoir> sensei: make sure you enabled it for 'dapper'... rather than 'dapper-backports'
[06:46] <[GuS] > yep
[06:46] <sensei> abattoir: Good point
[06:47] <abattoir> sensei: :)
[06:47] <sensei> Ah, there they are, cheers
[06:50] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:50] <draik> What is the time difference from GMT to Pacific Time?
[06:50] <abattoir> -8 ?
[06:51] <draik> GMT 12pm would be 4am Pacific?
[06:51] <baskew> -7 i believe
[06:51] <baskew> draik: time.gov
[06:51] <draik> thank you
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> GMT (is not the time in england - we currently are on GMT+1)
[06:52] <jordan_> how to install compiz only for XFCE ?
[06:52] <nnn0> you mean GMT + sunlight savings
[06:52] <h3sp4wn> jordan_: #xubuntu would be more likely to know
[06:52] <jeekl> Amarok refuses to play flac files. I'm using Xine with extracodecs isntalled. Anyone know a fix?
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> nnn0: BST == GMT+1
[06:54] <draik> I'm -7
[06:54] <draik> Thanks all
[06:54] <aliasfred> q. what is the status of the kde354 bug conf file in kubuntu ? still pending ?
[06:55] <nnn0> what i mean is, that in the wintertime - the TZ in Engliand is GMT
[06:55] <draik> Hey?!?! Who gave Adept Updater an overdose of caffeine?!?!
[06:58] <ninHer> hi all
[06:58] <mark___> hi all, my sound works one time out of 2,
[06:59] <mark___> sometimes when i boot, the soundcard appears in the volume control and sometimes it doesn't
[06:59] <mark___> without any reason!
[07:03] <soulrider> hi
[07:03] <soulrider> anyone here, im having some trouble installing kubuntu on this machien.... :/
[07:04] <DaSkreech> soulrider: What's Up?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> !sound
[07:04] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:04] <jordan_> how to log out (what comend) in terminal ?
[07:04] <soulrider> hey, im having some trouble selecting the partitions i wanna install kubuntu to
[07:05] <nnn0> soulrider: is the disk mounted ?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> jordan_: What are you asking?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> soulrider: How are you installing?
[07:05] <soulrider> uhm i think so
[07:05] <soulrider> ok heres what im doing
[07:05] <nnn0> soulrider: you have to unmount the disk to partition it and stuff
[07:05] <jordan_> How to logout useing consol(terminal)
[07:05] <soulrider> i cliked on the isnatll button on my desktop
[07:05] <soulrider> im not being able to select the partition i want
[07:06] <soulrider> thast the problem
[07:06] <nnn0> soulrider: try to umount it
[07:06] <jordan_> Driver for it have bug i can't corect log out use kde bar
[07:06] <jordan_> Driver for ATi
[07:06] <soulrider> can i show you a screenshot fo what i wanna do?
[07:06] <soulrider> its really confusing me
[07:06] <waylandbill> soulrider: you using the installer? what is on the screen?
[07:07] <soulrider> ill take a screenie of hte partitions ont he installer
[07:08] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Sorry I'd honestly say if you are having issues with the Desktop CD you use the alternate
[07:09] <soulrider> http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4673/snapshot1lc7.jpg
[07:09] <soulrider> whats that i see
[07:09] <soulrider> i wanna use SDA5 for linux and the little one for swap
[07:10] <waylandbill> it won't let you highlight /dev/sda5 in the list box?
[07:11] <soulrider> yes
[07:11] <nnn0> if the partitions are ready you set the mountpoints in the next slide
[07:11] <soulrider> but i will have to sue the windows as swap
[07:11] <soulrider> and i dont wanna do that
[07:11] <soulrider> it wont let me selecs sda6
[07:11] <nnn0> because the disk is mounted
[07:11] <waylandbill> you set the type to ext3. you want the type to be swap I think
[07:12] <nnn0> maybe not
[07:12] <soulrider> i did that i think
[07:12] <waylandbill> the list box shows sda6 being ext3
[07:12] <soulrider> k, let me make it swap
[07:12] <soulrider> k, done
[07:13] <waylandbill> now you should be able to select it for swap
[07:13] <soulrider> weird, i cans elect it now...
[07:13] <soulrider> i feel retarded.....
[07:13] <waylandbill> nah... simple mistake is all.
[07:13] <waylandbill> enjoy
[07:13] <soulrider> thanks!
[07:14] <waylandbill> the screenshot really was worth a thousand words. lol
[07:14] <soulrider> yea, screenshots work
[07:14] <visik7> anyone know if there will any chance to get xgl "integrated" in kde 3.5 ?
[07:16] <marxluz> joina/ #ubuntu
[07:16] <marxluz> join/ #ubuntu
[07:16] <BluesKaj> visik7, I've been waiting for an answer to that question for a while now :)
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> marxluz, you trying to do a /join #channel?
[07:17] <visik7> BluesKaj: I just want a kwin-compiz or something like that
[07:17] <waylandbill> I've not gotten enough desire yet to try xgl. some year maybe I will. :-D
[07:17] <BluesKaj> your here marxluz
[07:17] <sergiusens> visik7: i don't think so, I guess they're gonna just take advantage of "arthur" (qt)
[07:18] <jordan_> #xubuntu-zgl
[07:18] <jordan_> #xubuntu-xgl
[07:18] <BluesKaj> well, that's abit beyond my scope ...compiz baffled me and I scewed up my X
[07:18] <visik7> I'm using kubuntu not xubuntu
[07:20] <DaSkreech> visik7: They wont
[07:20] <visik7> DaSkreech: who ?
[07:20] <BluesKaj> the guys at #xgl weren't paying attn , I hung around there for help for 2 hrs and no one responded
[07:20] <DaSkreech> XGL in kde 3.5
[07:20] <DaSkreech> By definition it's in a freeze
[07:20] <visik7> yes I don't want something official
[07:20] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Tried #ubuntu-xgl
[07:21] <Ademan> hrm my video card won't output through svga to my big screen, i could do this on windows. interestingly enough it seems that it works fine untill X starts, do i need to add a monitor or something to my xconf?
[07:21] <visik7> I just want something not gtk based
[07:21] <DaSkreech> visik7: You can pull the SVN for kwin it has XGl support
[07:21] <visik7> mmm
[07:21] <visik7> but is it qt4 ?
[07:21] <gplfighter> jeekl : updated? same problem here
[07:23] <jeekl> Yes, updated. Amarok plays all sorts of other files, from vorbis to mp3 to m4a and so on, but not flac.
[07:27] <mikearthur> what does "Ign" mean on apt-get update?
[07:27] <visik7> ignoring
[07:27] <mikearthur> why would it be doing that?
[07:27] <mikearthur> Failed to fetch http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  302 Found
[07:28] <mikearthur> any ideas?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Saw the SVN logs for kwin?
[07:31] <hagus> Good evening from bonnie Scotland :)
[07:31] <soulrider> !easysource
[07:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:31] <mikearthur> hagus: evening fellow scotlander
[07:32] <hagus> mikearthur: whilst I enjoy seeing Americans, English folk and others on the web, it is reassuring to see a fellow Scot :)
[07:32] <hagus> I am just starting out with kubuntu
[07:34] <hagus> Whilst the dialogs suggest that I am managing to install my HP1100 printer and that a test page has been successfully printed, no such thing happens.
[07:35] <hagus> Someone very kindly pointed me to a resource FAQ which dealt with such an issue but I could not make much sense of it.
[07:35] <DaSkreech> !print
[07:35] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:36] <DaSkreech> That?
[07:36] <hagus> Aye, it was you, ubotu - ty :)
[07:36] <hagus> I have a printer connected by USB to my machine.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Ubotu is a robot btw
[07:37] <hagus> lol
[07:37] <hagus> told you I was naive :
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Those links are a good read though and should at least help you get some progress
[07:37] <Philip5> hagus: start with a chech it your printer is detected on the usb bus by typing 'lsusb' in a chell
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Bots had me fooled for a good while till I started trying to write one then they got easier to pick out
[07:37] <Philip5> ops, shell
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Having bot in the name doesn't hurt either ;-)
[07:38] <hagus> I have the HPlibs that seem to be required and it claims that it is updating the database of drivers to deal with my printer but it does not detect it automatically.
[07:40] <hagus> is that by typing lsusb in konsole, for instance, Philip5?
[07:41] <hagus> I really am pig ignorant as to how to do much in linux.
[07:42] <neoeno> hey, When I right click the title bar I can access 'special window settings'. Can I access these options (specifically skiptaskbar) from the console? I want to be able to modify them while the program is running, rather than using kstart.
[07:42] <DaSkreech> hagus: Hang out here :) You learn loads
[07:43] <allee> neoeno: try kdcop
[07:43] <neoeno> allee: I've tried, I can't seem to see any mention of it in there though
[07:43] <hagus> I have clicked on USB devices in the KinfoCenter - it shows up hp business inkjet 1100 :)
[07:44] <hagus> Is that the same as pressing lsusb ?
[07:44] <hagus> I mean does that indicate that the printer is being recognised?
[07:50] <allee> neoeno_afk: sorry, no futher ideas
[07:50] <sergiusens> any packages with c++ documentation/manpages?
[07:51] <Philip5> hagus: i guess if that is what you have
[07:51] <hagus> I guess that hp business inkjet 1100 might not be compatible with linux :(
[07:51] <sensei> Which via driver doedapper ship with? openunichome, xorgs own or vias own 'open source' driver?
[07:52] <Philip5> hagus: check on hps site about info on your printer
[07:52] <sensei> open unichrome*
[07:52] <hagus> Ok, ty, Philip5, I am off to do that now.
[07:52] <shadedpast> how do u force an application or program to stop?
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, sudo killall -KILL <process>
[07:53] <sensei> shadedpast: Or if you want to kill a special one (if there's several instances of the same program running) kill -9 pid
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, yea you  can use the pid, (Process ID)
[07:56] <shadedpast> does the process have to be inside <>
[07:56] <shadedpast> cause it doesn't work
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> nolte, replace <process> with the actuall name
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> so sudo killall -KILL xchat
[07:58] <shadedpast> i did and it doesn't work
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> what are you trying to end?
[07:58] <sensei> shadedpast: Things inside <> are required and []  are optional but available
[07:58] <shadedpast> kopete it locked up
[07:58] <sensei> Never read a manpage or a --help? :)
[07:59] <shadedpast> yes i have
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, so you did "sudo killall -KILL kopete"
[07:59] <shadedpast>  i just asked in case
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> sensei, you font have to be a jerk
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> or at  least that came across kinda mean
[07:59] <shadedpast> yes
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but the emoticon saves it!
[07:59] <sensei> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah, I kind of do.. I have a tremendously small penis you see :/
[07:59] <sensei> :)
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> sensei, ah yes I understand
[08:00] <baskew> heh thats funny
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> shadedpast, you can open up KsystemManager
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[08:00] <shadedpast> i typed sudo killall -KILL kopete
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> KSysGuard
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> its in the K menu, under System
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> and open it and use that to kill kopete
[08:01] <shadedpast> thnx that worked
[08:03] <mag_> anyone in here an expert with amarok? im new to linux and i need somehelp
[08:03] <mag_> some help*
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> mag_, whats the problem?
[08:03] <mag_> amarok wont play my mp3 files
[08:04] <Blissex> !restricted
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <Blissex> mag_: you got to read the links above.
[08:04] <mag_> ok thankyou
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> mag_:
[08:05] <locoblade> hey guys
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> mag_: if you use the xine engine then install libxine-extracodecs
[08:05] <locoblade> im trying to open sources.list to unlock repositories
[08:06] <locoblade> and I'm having a problem
[08:06] <locoblade> i type in sudo kate sources.list
[08:07] <locoblade> and what comes up is thats there's a communication problem with kded
[08:07] <locoblade> and that it probably crashed
[08:07] <locoblade> andit wont open the file
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <TheGateKeeper> Run command... kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <locoblade> is there another way to edit sources.list?
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> Run command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  --- ooops
[08:08] <Blissex> locoblade: you are try to start Kate inside the _root_ context.
[08:08] <locoblade> ok
[08:08] <locoblade> well it worked before
[08:08] <Blissex> locoblade: so you are trying to start KDE inside 'root'...
[08:08] <soulrider> !system specs
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about system specs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <locoblade> i'll try what gatekeeper said
[08:08] <soulrider> !system
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about system - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:09] <Blissex> locoblade: can you use 'vi' for example, or add yourself to the 'root' or 'wheel' groups? Consider this only if you already a bit geeky :-)
[08:09] <locoblade> ok kdesu worked
[08:09] <locoblade> im not geeky
[08:09] <locoblade> im doing this by the skin of my teeth lol
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> locoblade: that won't unlock the repos
[08:10] <locoblade> ive forgotten how to update the repositories thing after I unlock them too
[08:10] <Blissex> locoblade: then 'kdesu' is the way to go as <TheGateKeeper> said...
[08:10] <locoblade> whats the difference blissex?
[08:11] <TheGateKeeper> !easyubuntu > locoblade
[08:11] <Blissex> locoblade: it is pretty technical -- 'sudo' switches into 'root' ''totally'', while 'kdesu' switches into 'root' only the privilges.
[08:11] <locoblade> ok
[08:11] <locoblade> easyubuntu, whats that then?
[08:11] <locoblade> and im sure it is greater than me!
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> kdesu is used for gui apps
[08:12] <Blissex> locoblade: when you start KDE, you start a lot of ''helper'' stuff. This is per-user, not per-system...
[08:12] <locoblade> ok
[08:12] <locoblade> cool
[08:12] <locoblade> that easy ubuntu looks great!
[08:15] <gunnar_> hmmm
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> locablade: easyubuntu doesn't do anything special and may break your system (in certain circumstances)
[08:16] <soulrider> this will sound really dumb, but what can i use to view my system specs?
[08:17] <hagus> Should I have a printer "class" defined to get a USB printer to work?
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: hmmm didn't know that it was a bit iffy
[08:17] <cumar> HI, Can anyone help me in configuring firefox to watch CNN news video. I have installed mplayer pluggin but itshows no picture and no sound
[08:17] <locoblade> easyubuntu's working great
[08:18] <locoblade> thanks whoever reccommended it!
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: I can think of one instance where it doesn't handle things in a sane way
[08:18] <Blissex> hagus: pointless... Classes are if you have many printers.
[08:18] <hagus> The printer that I have is discontinued by HP but it is too good to abandon for the sake of linux :(
[08:18] <sensei> hagus: Can't it do post/ghost script prints?
[08:19] <hagus> I do not know how to do these, sensei :)
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: I won't suggest it if it can knacker people's system
[08:19] <petty> any gurus around?   I've just installed kubuntu. Does anybody know why I do NOT have the option "Manage Repositories" in my Adept?
[08:20] <administrator> hello
[08:20] <soulrider> :O
[08:20] <soulrider> Admi
[08:20] <soulrider> administrator:
[08:20] <gekko`_> what's the task knotify for? just to output sounds on errors?
[08:20] <Blissex> petty: running it as 'root'?
[08:20] <Daskreech2> locoblade: Did you try editing them in adept?
[08:20] <TaiChar> now having another name
[08:20] <Blissex> gekko`_: or to pop up messages or sound the fire alarm or ...
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: If someone has an ati card (which should work with the free drivers) or a card only supported by nvidia-legacy using easyubuntu can cause issues that are a pain to get round
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> petty: nope easy workaround Run Command... kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <Daskreech2> petty: You are running adept under simple mode
[08:21] <petty> no...running as a user....tried to log as root but I have no password...
[08:21] <gekko`_> Blissex: so I shouldn't disable that task?
[08:21] <sydney> :)
[08:21] <Daskreech2> TheGateKeeper: He's running the dumbed down Adept
[08:21] <sydney> hello
[08:21] <Blissex> gekko`_: no, why? pointless. Just disable notifications.
[08:21] <Daskreech2> petty: Want instructions to open it with all options?
[08:21] <bipolar> Is there a reason that flash gives me nothing but a grey box in konq (other then flash sucks...)?
[08:22] <petty> please
[08:22] <bipolar> I hear the sounds, but no video
[08:22] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: ahhh!
[08:22] <TaiChar> can someone help me? I am not able to mount my ntfs HDDs
[08:22] <Daskreech2> petty: Press Alt+Space
[08:22] <petty> ok
[08:22] <Daskreech2> Type ad and press enter
[08:23] <petty> ok
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> h3sp4wn: those video cards bite folks in the arse yet again :-)
[08:23] <Daskreech2> It should ask you for a password. That would be your password
[08:23] <petty> ok
[08:23] <cryp> does anyone know what is the kubuntu default font?
[08:23] <Daskreech2> Tell me when adept opens :)
[08:23] <Daskreech2> TaiChar: How many
[08:23] <Daskreech2> damn it
[08:24] <petty> soryy cannot do it right now ...is upgrading....but plese give me all instructions ...i'll do it in 30 minutes
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> TheGateKeeper: There is no reason easyubuntu cannot check the pci ids and do the correct thing (refusing to install anything at all if it is not sure)
[08:25] <cryp> any1? please :/
[08:25] <Daskreech2> petty: Short way is K Menu -> System -> Adept
[08:25] <Daskreech2> petty: Shorter way is longer to write but faster to do
[08:26] <hagus> Bliss, I have never tried to print to postscript or ghostscript.  I have printed a pdf file to give to professional printer but I guess that what you are suggesting is a bit more involved.
[08:26] <Daskreech2> TheGateKeeper: I've grown quite fond of adept
[08:27] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: just drives me nuts, I can use it, but it just irritates me so I don't
[08:27] <Daskreech2> Why?
[08:27] <hagus> I am not being deliberately awkward - just ignorant :)
[08:28] <Daskreech2> hagus: Understood as long as you are not obnoxious :)
[08:28] <petty> Daskreech2, what do I do after"  It should ask you for a password. That would be your password"  ????
[08:28] <Daskreech2> petty: You put in your password in the passowrd box then adept should open
[08:29] <petty> and then...it should have all options opened?
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: just don't like the interface, and lost trust in it when I managed to get it go into an infinite loop in breezy
[08:29] <Daskreech2> TheGateKeeper: Sweet how did you do that?
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> Daskreech2: not exactly sure, probable just a bug somewhere, didn't try repeating it, but it was when I was asking it to install several things all at the same time. I use Synaptic and apt-get depending on what I do, synaptic has always been rock solid (touches wood :-) ) at least so far
[08:32] <Daskreech2> I got Synaptic to throw up once .. don't remember howI fixed it
[08:32] <hagus> Blissex: What I was wondering was whether you were going to give me some pointers as to how to go about doing this postscript stuff?
[08:33] <TheGateKeeper> brb
[08:34] <Blissex> hagus: sorry, I haven't been following, but I could help as an exception. What's your situation now: Printer model? You got CUPS configured in some way? How familiar are you with sysadmin?
[08:34] <hagus> not at all on linux
[08:34] <hagus> I am reasonably familiar with windows
[08:35] <Blissex> hagus: good, which printer is that then?
[08:35] <hagus> HP business inkjet 1100
[08:35] <hagus> It is on a USB
[08:35] <mateusz> Jest kto z Polski
[08:36] <hagus> HP website says that HP1100 has been discontinued by them.
[08:36] <Blissex> hagus: ah that should be fairly easy, virtually all HP inkjets are supported by CUPS one way or another.
[08:36] <Blissex> !polski
[08:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about polski - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:36] <Blissex> !polish
[08:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about polish - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:36] <Blissex> !poland
[08:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about poland - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:36] <Blissex> hagus: and who cares? CUPS etc. have written their own drivers.
[08:37] <Blissex> hagus: there are actually two different (actually more) drivers for HP inkjets...
[08:37] <Blissex> hagus: how you tried just using the web interface for CUPS and select HP as the make of the inkjet and then selecting 1100 or something similar?
[08:37] <mateusz> Jestem zaamany czy kto mni8e rozumie
[08:37] <DaSkreech> nixternal`back: PIng
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !po
[08:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about po - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:38] <hagus> eek - nope
[08:38] <DaSkreech> !spanish
[08:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:38] <hagus> I just used the wizard and asked for USB
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Oh Cool :)
[08:38] <Blissex> hagus: type in your browser: http://localhost:631/
[08:39] <Blissex> hagus: and then select 'add printer' and log in as 'root'. You need to add a password to 'root' if you haven't already.
[08:39] <hagus> .
[08:39] <sorush20> hi guys, I am running some gnome applications but I don't have gnome installed would this be considered by gnome version if I were to file a bug report ? ii  gnome-bin           1.4.2-30            Miscellaneous binaries used by GNOME
[08:40] <Blissex> sorush20: that would be OK.
[08:41] <hagus> It offers me a chocice of two printers Blissex:
[08:41] <hagus> one with hp/usb in front of it
[08:42] <Blissex> hagus: USB or not does not matter a log as long as you specify the right device name (like '/dev/usblp0')
[08:42] <hagus> Actually there are several offered but only two that mention hp
[08:42] <hagus> OK ty
[08:42] <slow-motion> re
[08:43] <Blissex> hagus: were you at the 'device for it'? If so then select 'usb lp'
[08:43] <nixternal> DaSkreech: pong?
[08:44] <Blissex> hagus: because that is about the output connector, not the manufacturer or model, they get asked next.
[08:44] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Still on the Newsletter comitte type writer thingy?
[08:44] <nixternal> i have no clue..i was just filling in while MG was afk
[08:44] <hagus> hm - it keeps telling me that authentication failed for me as root
[08:44] <nixternal> i have been AFK this week, and now am in the process of getting back into the swing of things
[08:45] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Ah So who do I gnip if I want to find out about UWN #8?
[08:45] <hagus> Should I have a username as root or just a blank or the word "root".  I am confused.
[08:45] <nixternal> #*-doc someone..i will look into it here in a bit
[08:46] <hagus> It does not matter what I enter, it does not like it :(
[08:47] <Hawkwind> Why doesn't Kubuntu have something like this....specifically with Kubuntu images instead of Ubuntu images:  http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/index.php
[08:47] <DaSkreech> Blissex:Helping hagus?
[08:47] <Blissex> DaSkreech: hoping :-)
[08:48] <hagus> Gimme a few minutes plz :)
[08:49] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure but I think hagus might be confused about root. I'm not really following
[08:49] <Blissex> hagus: BTW, just checked and the 1100 is there...
[08:50] <hagus> I am the CUPS site.
[08:50] <Blissex> DaSkreech: I suspect so, and anyhow I suggested use of the CUPS web interface.
[08:50] <hagus> When I fill in the first page questions about the name of printer etc., it takes me to a page which offers me a whole range of choices of connectors or something.
[08:50] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Isn't Kubuntu right there on the page?
[08:51] <hagus> One of these says: hp business inkjet 1100 USB #1 (hp business inkjet 1100)
[08:52] <hagus> the other says hp:/usb/hp_business_inkjet_1100?serial=CN************* (HP hp_business_inkjet_1100)
[08:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yes, but there are only images that say 'Ubuntu' and none that specifically show that the user is running Kubuntu or Xubuntu or whatever else
[08:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I meant image wise specifically for the variants of *Ubuntu
[08:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: So write to the guys and say here use this along with a nice Kubuntu image :)
[08:54] <hagus> Is that site to which you pointed me one for which I must be already registered, Blissex?
[08:54] <hagus> or is it on my own machine?
[08:54] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I just did :P
[08:54] <Blissex> hagus: that is not a site, it is just a web interface on your own machine.
[08:55] <hagus> ok ty.
[08:55] <petty> anycody knows the password for superuser (su command in  terminal window ) ???
[08:55] <Blissex> hagus: you must log in as 'root' when prompted.
[08:55] <Blissex> petty: you gotta set it yourself or use 'sudo'
[08:55] <hagus> It is asking me for username
[08:55] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: let me know how that goes :) I'd use one of the Kubuntu stickers
[08:55] <Blissex> hagus: have you set a password for the user 'root'?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> !root > petty
[08:55] <hagus> I do not think that I have come to think of it.
[08:56] <hagus> I have just set the password for hagus.
[08:56] <petty> tx
[08:56] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I definitely will.  Hopefully Melissa will add an image for each seperate derivative of the project
[08:56] <hagus> please forgive me for being so backward on this.
[08:56] <Blissex> hagus: then for the sake of this, open a Konsole and type 'sudo passwd root'
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Melissa?
[08:57] <aliasfred> mel you mean ? :)
[08:57] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Melissa Draper is the one who runs that project
[08:57] <hagus> password updated successfully !
[08:58] <BluesKaj> anyone know a URL that uses Flash , I'd like to test out my install :)
[08:58] <DaSkreech> www.macromedia.com ?
[08:58] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: www.orisinal.com
[08:58] <Blissex> hagus: now type "root" as the user name, and whatever password you chose.
[08:58] <BluesKaj> something with flash based video
[08:59] <hagus> have done that but it tells me I am not authenticated :(
[08:59] <BluesKaj> thx DaSkreech :)
[08:59] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: google video
[09:00] <hagus> Should I pick internet printing protocol rather than the name of the printer?
[09:01] <petty> DaScreech...."!root" is a password for su?   is not working i get "authentification failure"
[09:01] <hagus> Must the password for the user and the root be different?
[09:01] <petty> no
[09:02] <uniq> hagus: must not, but it is good practice.
[09:02] <petty> how do i log in as root?
[09:02] <RogueX> Hello everyone
[09:02] <uniq> petty: login from where? to where?
[09:02] <hagus> I wonder if it could have been to do with adept updater wanting to update?
[09:03] <hagus> I had adept open while I was trying this stuff?
[09:03] <uniq> hagus: why do you want a root password?
[09:03] <petty> login on kubuntu or on a terminal window
[09:03] <RogueX> Does anyone know if there is a setting to let you have the windows remember where they were last opened?
[09:03] <draik> petty, su
[09:03] <petty> su ask for password
[09:03] <draik> petty, type 'su' then hit enter and it will ask for your password
[09:03] <hagus> I am trying to print to my printer, uniq.
[09:04] <petty> my orig passwd not working
[09:04] <uniq> petty: why would you want to do that? all administrative tasks should be done with 'sudo command' if you really want a root shell session, 'sudo -s' works.
[09:04] <petty> get auth failure
[09:04] <uniq> hagus: do you need to login as root to print?
[09:05] <hagus> I have not been able to print at all so I do not know the answer to that question :)
[09:05] <mateusz> Mowi kto po Polsku
[09:05] <petty> how does one login as root?
[09:05] <uniq> draik: on kubuntu systems you can't just run 'su' and type your password, as the root account is disabled by default. You would first have to set a rootpassword with 'sudo passwd root'.
[09:05] <lmodl> hello
[09:05] <Blissex> hagus: if you don't my id in a line it is difficult for me to see your messages...
[09:06] <hagus> Sorry Blissex :)
[09:06] <petty> how do i enable root account?
[09:06] <RogueX> petty: sudo
[09:06] <Blissex> hagus: have you written "root" in the user field of the CUPS form?
[09:06] <root> for login in graphical mode?
[09:06] <petty> plse no sudo....i want to log as root in kubuntu
[09:06] <uniq> petty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:07] <DaSkreech> petty: You don't need to
[09:07] <DaSkreech> petty: You can sudo su
[09:07] <petty> yes i would like to...lol
[09:07] <hagus> yes Blissex :) several times
[09:07] <hagus> I have even changed my root password to make it different from my user pwd and still no joy.
[09:07] <mateusz> Rozumie kto po polsku a nie tylko ten piepszony angielski
[09:08] <Blissex> hagus: and the password you set with 'sudo passwd root' in the ''password'' field.
[09:08] <mateusz> do szkoy nie chodziliscie
[09:08] <DaSkreech> mateusz: What language?
[09:08] <mateusz> po polsku
[09:08] <hagus> yes Blissex - I have tried every combination that I could think of.
[09:08] <DaSkreech> !polish
[09:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about polish - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Damn :-(
[09:08] <hagus> It forbids me as root and user.
[09:09] <DaSkreech> mateusz: Hold on
[09:09] <draik> uniq, I thought petty already did that
[09:09] <root> i can login as root in graphical mode and i got a different password for it..
[09:09] <Blissex> hagus: open 'Konsole' as normal user and then type 'su root' and then use the password you set. Does this work?
[09:09] <root> as u see
[09:10] <Blissex> root: is that <hagus>?
[09:10] <hagus> I am not the same as root Blissex :)
[09:10] <uniq> hagus: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface
[09:11] <Blissex> uniq: aaaaahhh goos idea.
[09:11] <Blissex> uniq: aaaaahhh good idea.
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Anyone speak polish?
[09:12] <hagus> OK, I shall go and have a look at that and stop frustrating everyone (myself included) :)  I am grateful for the help, if that counts for anything  :)
[09:12] <DaSkreech> hagus: Hang around here and things make more sense... after a while
[09:13] <hagus> I am keen to beat this linux problem but my wife is moaning at me because she used to connect to my printer via windows network.
[09:13] <hagus> So, I am under pressure from her indoors :)
[09:14] <DaSkreech> :-D
[09:14] <DaSkreech> mateusz: nie mog znajdowa polski serwer
[09:14] <hagus> I will catch you folk laterr when I have experimented a bit more.
[09:14] <hagus> Thanks to everyone for patience.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> mateusz: JA bd widzie jeeli mog znajdowa kogo kto (ktry) mwi jzyk polski (blask) dla was
[09:15] <gplfighter> !pl
[09:15] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:15] <hagus> My excuse is that I am 53 years of age - so the grey cells are much greyer and slower on the uptake.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> gplfighter: Doh!
[09:16] <DaSkreech> hagus: Welcome :) I'm the same and I'm like 20 :-)
[09:16] <DaSkreech> !pl > mateusz
[09:20] <RogueX> Does Kubuntu have a themes installer?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[09:21] <rnisly> does anyone know how to get sound working on a laptop running dapper?
[09:21] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Know where/what it is?
[09:21] <crimsun> rnisly: be more precise regarding your hardware, please?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> System Settings
[09:22] <rnisly> sound card or other stuff
[09:23] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Yes I went there
[09:23] <crimsun> rnisly: right, but /which/ sound card?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Did you search for theme?
[09:24] <adam__> any1 here play runescape? I can't get the sound working on it, I beleive it uses MIDI
[09:24] <rnisly> im not sure its a acer aspire 1640z
[09:24] <rnisly> i'll google
[09:24] <crimsun> rnisly: pastebin ``lspci -v |grep -i audio && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[09:24] <crimsun> adam__: does your sound hardware have midi support included?
[09:25] <adam__> IDK. MIDI worked when I had windows installed....
[09:25] <RogueX> DaSkreech: If your talking about Appearance that is not a theme installer.. I am looking for something like the orginal KDE gives you were it installs a theme package
[09:26] <crimsun> adam__: start by telling what sound hardware you have.
[09:26] <rnisly> intel 82801
[09:27] <crimsun> rnisly: I need all the information that I requested on pastebin, please.
[09:28] <rnisly> won't it ban me if i paste all of it?
[09:28] <Hawkwind> rnisly: pastebin.ca is a website to paste it to
[09:30] <adam__> where do I find out the hardware? could it be NVIDIA GeForce?
[09:32] <rnisly> crimsun : http://pastebin.ca/115706
[09:32] <adam__> In K Menu>System Settings>Sound &Multimedia>Hardware tab>Select your MIDI Device, there's none listed.
[09:33] <adam__> i probably need a driver?
[09:33] <crimsun> adam__: a geforce is a video card. I need to know your /sound/ card.
[09:33] <crimsun> adam__: pastebin ``lspci -v |grep -i audio''
[09:33] <mark___> hey guys I'm having a little trouble installing xmms
[09:33] <mark___> cant find it in the apt-get list
[09:33] <crimsun> mark___: is your main repository enabled? are you using a ubuntu mirror?
[09:33] <mark___> yep
[09:33] <mark___> as far as I know
[09:34] <mark___> maybe I should check
[09:34] <adam__> 0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio (rev c2)
[09:34] <adam__> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio (rev c2)
[09:34] <mark___> lol
[09:34] <mark___> how do I check?
[09:34] <crimsun> adam__: so no, your hardware doesn't have support included. You need to load snd-seq, then start timidity -iA.
[09:34] <crimsun> adam__: ``sudo modprobe snd-seq && timidity -iA''
[09:35] <crimsun> mark___: apt-cache policy xmms |grep 500
[09:35] <mark___> k
[09:35] <crimsun> rnisly: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[09:36] <adam__> bash: timidity: command not found
[09:36] <mark___> that tells me this: 500 http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[09:36] <rnisly> 0: Realtek ALC883
[09:36] <adam__> (i'm new to linux sry)
[09:36] <crimsun> adam__: install it.
[09:36] <crimsun> (use Adept)
[09:37] <crimsun> rnisly: ouch.
[09:37] <crimsun> mark___: good. Now pastebin (don't paste in here) the entire error spew you get when you attempt to install it from the command line.
[09:37] <rnisly> ya...
[09:38] <crimsun> rnisly: dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r) |grep ^ii |awk '{ print $3 }'
[09:38] <mark___> it'll jyst be a sec cause I'm downloading eclipse at the mo
[09:39] <rnisly> 2.6.15-23.39
[09:40] <mikearthur> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131869 can people please try and check and confirm this bug
[09:40] <crimsun> rnisly: please update to 2.6.15-26.46
[09:40] <rnisly> can i use apt-get?
[09:41] <rnisly> apt-get upgrade kernel
[09:41] <rnisly> ?
[09:41] <crimsun> rnisly: yes, just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:41] <mark_> I have a little problem
[09:41] <mark_> mark@ExternalHD:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:41] <mark_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:41] <mark_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:42] <rnisly> crimsun : after i update my kernel should it work?
[09:42] <dr_willis> you got some other apt program going.
[09:42] <mark_> yeah
[09:42] <crimsun> rnisly: it might. We've had tremendous problems getting the routing on realtek 88xs working correctly.
[09:42] <mark_> i cancelled eclipse downloading halfway thru so I could get onto xmms
[09:42] <rnisly> ok
[09:43] <mark_> is eclipse still downloading?
[09:43] <Hawkwind> Anyone know what's up with archive.ubuntu.com today ?
[09:43] <uniq> mark_: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock' will ask you if you want to kill whatever process locking.
[09:43] <crimsun> Hawkwind: bandwidth problems at the London DC. Use a mirror. It won't be fixed for several more days (~week).
[09:43] <mark_> ok ty
[09:44] <Hawkwind> crimsun: What would you suggest using or where can I get a list of mirrors ?
[09:44] <tangmubai> hello. is somewhere a fixed krusader package, witch did not cras when on dir contains duplicate filenames (with different case) ?
[09:44] <mark_> uniq how do i learn stuff like that?
[09:44] <crimsun> Hawkwind: there's a wiki page for mirrors.
[09:44] <mark_> instead of bothering you guys?
[09:44] <sepp> .
[09:45] <crimsun> Hawkwind: additionally, kubuntu.org packages are mirrored.
[09:45] <adam__> ya  thought DOS had some weird commands.......where do i learn linux commands?
[09:45] <Hawkwind> crimsun: So something like us.archive.ubuntu.com should work ok ?
[09:45] <dr_willis> adam__,  google  is your friend.
[09:45] <mark_> i had a great big book that came with dos
[09:45] <dr_willis> adam__,  and linux's shell (bash) and so on makes much more sence then dos ever did.
[09:45] <mark_> had all the commands there
[09:46] <dr_willis> mark_,   oodles of bash tutorials out there. :P
[09:46] <damel> a good ftp client ?
[09:46] <Hawkwind> damel: ftp from CLI, gFTP, kftpgrabber, prozilla, kbear
[09:46] <dr_willis> damel,  define 'good' :) vs.. just works..
[09:47] <damel> .)
[09:47] <uniq> mark_: well.. you can buy a semi-advanced linux/unix book. Search the web for linux/unix commandline tips and tricks. or stay in here asking questions and looking at answers to others :)
[09:47] <damel> lol
[09:47] <damel> thanks
[09:47] <bigbill52a> how do you over ride the log in manager for kdm?
[09:47] <uniq> damel: 'yafc' and 'lftp' for console ftp apps :)
[09:48] <uniq> bigbill52a: override how?
[09:48] <bigbill52a> i have tried changing it...but it is shure stubborn
[09:48] <bigbill52a> so you can have a different background, etc
[09:48] <dr_willis> thers a gui/setting/preferance program in the menus somewhre  for kde.
[09:49] <damel> thanks
[09:49] <bigbill52a> they dont over ride the dern thing
[09:49] <adam__> draik: i'm not a registered user I guess cause it blocks my messages in private chat
[09:49] <dr_willis> Then ya are doing somthing very odd... they work fine for me.. you are enablign the administrator mode?
[09:49] <draik> Sorry adam__
[09:49] <bigbill52a> yes
[09:49] <draik> Let me list them again for you
[09:50] <adam__> no  i was getting ur messages I got them.
[09:50] <draik> This compares DOS to Unix commands  http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html
[09:50] <draik> That's a good start
[09:50] <adam__> but where do i register?
[09:50] <draik> !register > adam__
[09:50] <uniq> bigbill52a: open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc in a editor. go to line 450 and uncomment it. (add # at the very start of the line)
[09:51] <uniq> bigbill52a: now you've disabled the kubuntu theme on KDM.
[09:51] <draik> This link shows you all the commands, well most of them anyway... http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/
[09:51] <bigbill52a> thanks
[09:51] <draik> Here's another good one... http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml
[09:51] <dek> my Kubuntu doesn't recognize 2 of my NTFS partitions, what should I do?
[09:51] <dek> it's like they didn't exist, impossible to mount
[09:52] <draik> This is basics... http://www.ss64.com/bash/index.html
[09:52] <adam__> k thanks draik that should be enough for now
[09:52] <draik> Kew. That's all I had anyway
[09:53] <htraki> hello to all
[09:54] <draik> dr_willis, google is the good friend. google.com/linux is a better friend
[09:54] <jollyroger> Can someone help me with the adept installer?
[09:54] <TheGateKeeper> dek: have you consulted the ntfs howto's on the ubuntu forums?
[09:55] <dek> nope, lemme check
[09:55] <draik> jollyroger, what's wrong with your adept installer?
[09:55] <jollyroger> well, i cant even mark the packages i want to install..
[09:55] <jollyroger> it seems like it dont connect at all..
[09:55] <dr_willis> you ran it as root with sudo?
[09:56] <draik> you mean you have a lag or you can't select the packages?
[09:56] <bigbill52a> theme =    comment that line?
[09:56] <jollyroger> i tryed both that and login as root in graphical mode (i enabled that)
[09:56] <jollyroger> the packages are greymarked..
[09:57] <htraki> jollyroger:what site is set up in sources.list?
[09:57] <jollyroger> and the list is not updated..
[09:57] <draik> apt-get update
[09:57] <draik> apt-get upgrade
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> jollyroger: you should have a dialog appear asking you for your password when you start adept from the menu system
[09:57] <bigbill52a> should i change line 446 to false
[09:57] <draik> TheGateKeeper, I don't have a PW pop-up.  Noob here, running kubuntu dapper.  I'm trying to find the python2.4-profiler package, which I've been told is only available from a "non-free repo."  Is there a specific repository I need to add or do I need to hunt around to find a specific one that has the package I want?  Thanks.
 me..
[10:00] <rr72> jollyroger~ what does touch of red mean or representis?
[10:01] <jollyroger> touch of red?
[10:01] <rr72> *represent
[10:01] <rr72> oops
[10:01] <Dinofly> MikeMcA: activate universe, multiverse and "commercial" repos using adept
[10:02] <htraki> MikeMCA: I paste my sources.list I use,add in adept
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted multiverse universe
[10:03] <htraki> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-proposed main restricted multiverse universe
[10:04] <MikeMcA> htraki: thanks
[10:04] <ThunderStruck> htraki: dont paste in here please
[10:04] <htraki> Apply and refresh
[10:04] <jollyroger> i've restarted adept in root(graphmode) but the same problem appears..
[10:04] <mark_> guys
[10:04] <MikeMcA> htraki: I see now what I was missing: I didn't realize you could add universe and multiverse components to each of the distribution categories.
[10:04] <MikeMcA> Awesome, thanks
[10:05] <mark_> im stuck trying to install a gmail notifier
[10:05] <draik> mark_ for firefox?
[10:05] <mark_> i have a folder with a few files in it
[10:05] <htraki> good luck
[10:05] <mark_> i think it's standalone
[10:05] <rnisly> mark_ did you try kcheckgmail?
[10:05] <mark_> it'll open whatever browser you want
[10:05] <mark_> ohh i'll do that
[10:05] <rnisly> ok
[10:05] <draik> mark_ I have mine installed from the firefox extension
[10:06] <mark_> looks like problem solved
[10:06] <mark_> brbr
[10:07] <RogueX> I just downloaded .deb files can someone tell me what program to use to install?
[10:07] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[10:07] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:07] <draik> RogueX, just do 'sudo dpkg -i <package_name>'
[10:08] <dr_willis> read up on apt-get and the use of it.. 'dpkg -i whatever.deb' if you are luck will work
[10:08] <RogueX> Thanks
[10:08] <dr_willis> :P
[10:08] <htraki> RougeX: dpkg -i command as root
[10:08] <draik> np
[10:09] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:09] <mark_> that kgmail thing is working thanks
[10:09] <RogueX> I ftp libdvdcss2 because it seems that PLF is down.  I hope I am doing this right :)
[10:10] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: sure you have the correct url?
[10:11] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I  got it in my sources.list file
[10:11] <htraki> RogueX: no libdvdcss 4 dapper
[10:11] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > gatekeeper
[10:11] <RogueX> htraki: I dont know...
[10:12] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I dont know that.. can you explain??
[10:12] <htraki> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats to get help
[10:13] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: This is what I got.  deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[10:13] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: should look like that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19719
[10:14] <mark_> ok last question
[10:14] <mark_> if I have a keyboard with play stop fast forward buttons, can I get that to work with xmms?
[10:15] <mark_> easily i mean
[10:15] <mark_> lol if it's complicated I dont want to know
[10:15] <rnisly> mark_  you can use klinekd with amarok not sure about xmms
[10:15] <htraki> thx TheGateKeeper 4 the package
[10:16] <mark_> i'll try that
[10:16] <TheGateKeeper> htraki: yw :-)
[10:17] <mark_> where can I find klinekd?
[10:17] <rnisly> adept :P
[10:17] <rnisly> klineakd.sourceforge.net i think
[10:17] <mark_> ohh
[10:17] <mark_> duh
[10:18] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: this is what I get when I try to get libdvdcss2 from adept manager - There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> rnisly: 404 error
[10:18] <rnisly> mark_: lineak.sourceforge.net
[10:19] <htraki> RougeX: use the url in browser
[10:19] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:19] <RogueX> htraki: Dont understand..
[10:20] <htraki> I paste the link 4 libdvdcss
[10:20] <DaSkreech> Can you recover deleted flies from aext3 FS?
[10:21] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I put thosThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.e lines in sources.list and no change... same error message
[10:21] <htraki> Do U use dapper?
[10:22] <RogueX> htraki: Yes I am
[10:22] <htraki> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/free/libdvdcss2/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf4_i386.deb
[10:24] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: don't like the sound of that, not sure why that sould be happening, you could try modifying your sources.list then try sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories just correct PLF repos as per http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19719
[10:24] <Jack1> hi
[10:25] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: htraki plan sounds better go with that
[10:25] <Jack1> how can i make the font in the konqueror panel smaller (where it says location, edit,view,..)?
[10:26] <htraki> RogueX says nothing,is he still here?
[10:26] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: Got error
[10:26] <RogueX> I put the repo in sources.list
[10:26] <RogueX> thats the error I got.
[10:27] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: did you try htraki's method??
[10:27] <RogueX> htraki: I just got your file going to try it now
[10:27] <htraki> OK
[10:27] <ccc__> Jack1: the menu? system settings > appearance > fonts > menu
[10:29] <RogueX> htraki: looks like it installed
[10:29] <htraki> Cool,try to play an crypted DVD
[10:30] <Jack1> system settings > appearance > fonts only for webpages not for the menu
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: what does this command return? cat /etc/issue
[10:30] <RogueX> it works!
[10:30] <RogueX> yeah  dvd plays
[10:31] <htraki> then libdvdcss works
[10:31] <dein> 3.5.4 is working now?
[10:31] <XVampireX> !headers
[10:31] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:31] <XVampireX> hmm
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> dein: yes allegedly
[10:31] <XVampireX> I need kde headers to install kbfx
[10:31] <soulrider> !java
[10:31] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:31] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: what does this command return? cat /etc/issue
[10:31] <dein> anyone know about its stability compared to 3.5.3?
[10:31] <ccc__> Jack1: not sure i understand you. that font settings changes the menu fonts.
[10:32] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: /etc/issue  ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[10:32] <bl3ssing> hello guys, how're you doing?
[10:32] <bl3ssing> :)
[10:32] <htraki> hello bl3ssing
[10:32] <dein> not to mention, is it faster than 3.5.3?
[10:32] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: that's ok just checking, sources.list all say dapper not breezy?
[10:32] <bl3ssing> htraki, are'u ok?
i want to chnage the panel font size but in he settings only the fonts for webpages and filebrowsing are adaptable
[10:33] <bl3ssing> which's the best java IDE for linux? does anybody know?
[10:33] <htraki> Im all right, How do U do?
[10:33] <hagus> I am pleased to report success after studying the advice received in this channel.  I can now print to my printer.  Hurray!
[10:34] <Jack1> is opera recommendable over konqeror as web browser?
[10:34] <XVampireX> Yeah, it's pretty good
[10:34] <bl3ssing> hagus, this channel's really helpful. I wanted to update my Kubuntu from the older vers. to the newest ... and I did it. :D
[10:34] <TheGateKeeper> bl3ssing: I am talking out of ignorance here but don't most use eclipse?
[10:34] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I still show problem that started all this..  libdvdcss2 - conflict: libdvdcss0.0.1
[10:34] <ccc__> Jack1: i'm talking about "system settings" in the k-menu, which alters your global settings (including konqueror). not the one in konqueror.
[10:34] <hagus> Firefox is jolly good too imho :)
[10:34] <htraki> As good know IBM has IDE 4 linux
[10:34] <ccc__> Jack1: i prefer opera, but konqueror is good :) both are way faster than for example firefox
[10:35] <bl3ssing> TheGateKeeper, but? ...
right but i cannot adapt the size onlyin konqui can i?
[10:35] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: so now I cant update or remove libdvdcss2
[10:35] <Jack1> konqi should start up faster than firefox as a genuine kde thing is this right?
[10:35] <bl3ssing> any music composing software in linux?   Now that I managed to communicate with the printer, what do I do?  lol DaSkreech :)
[10:37] <bl3ssing> what's a ars technica?
[10:37] <htraki> Dont know any music creator prg
[10:37] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, what's a ars technica?
[10:37] <hagus> She will not give me the kiss until I let her print from my printer :)
[10:37] <Jack1> technical art?
[10:37] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: Gimmie a moment
[10:38] <RogueX> htraki: I ran command but it says file isnt installed but Adept manager and synaptic says they are
[10:38] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: go with htraki suggestion , but you could start up synaptic, see if there are any broken packages and either reinstall or remove
[10:38] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, sure. :)
[10:38] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I ran command but it says file isnt installed but Adept manager and synaptic says they are
[10:39] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/linux-audio.ars
[10:39] <htraki> RougeX: dpkg --list libdvdcss
[10:39] <RogueX> It seems as though all the package managers think there are files installed when there really is not.  Anyway to fix that?
[10:40] <RogueX> htraki:  un  libdvdcss      <none>         (no description available)
[10:40] <htraki> dpkg -l | grep libdvdcss
[10:40] <RogueX> ii  libdvdcss2                             1.2.9-1plf4                             portable abstraction library for DVD decrypt
[10:41] <DaSkreech> hagus: There was a document on it....
[10:41] <htraki> I think there isnt any other dvdcss
[10:41] <RogueX> htraki: OK I am pretty sure the problem now is that dpkg thinks there are files installed on the system when they are not
[10:42] <htraki> Did U see that the dpkg says setting up libdvdcss after install
[10:43] <Jack1> could i copy my bookmarks from konqi in opera ? would it work?
[10:43] <RogueX> htraki: dpkg thinks the files libdvdcss0.0.1 and libdvdcss0.0.2 are installed but they are not.  I did a file search on the whole system and they are not found
[10:43] <Hawkwind> Jack1: Doubtful as it probably uses a different layout
[10:43] <Hawkwind> Jack1: You might be able t export them from Opera though, not sure
[10:44] <htraki> In /usr/lib dir by hand?
[10:44] <DaSkreech> hagus: I think it might be at the CUPS site
[10:44] <hagus> ah ok ty DaSkreech :)
[10:44] <RogueX> htraki: yes those 2 files are not installed even though Adept Manager and Synaptic says they are
[10:45] <Hawkwind> RogueX: Did you do a sudo updatedb *before* searching for the files on your system ?
[10:45] <RogueX> htraki: Any way to clear them?
[10:45] <Jack1> there is an option import from konqu. but it doesnt show me the hidden folders and the bookmars are in the hidden folder .kde
[10:45] <htraki> Then U have to create those files with links
[10:45] <Jack1> how to show that?
[10:46] <htraki> Tried dpkg --purge libdvdcss2
[10:47] <Jack1> ah ok its cool
[10:47] <Jack1> import from konqueror then open home/usrname/.kde/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml
[10:47] <RogueX> htraki: Just ran that command
[10:48] <RogueX> htraki: I assume I need to try and reinstall?
[10:48] <Jack1> however konqui has this nice amarok plugin
[10:48] <Hawkwind> Jack1: So you got your bookmarks now ?
[10:48] <htraki> I dont know?!
[10:48] <BluesKaj> OK, it looked like my konsol install of DeCSS was successful but it does show up in synaptic even after updating and upgrading apt ...is there another way to see if DeCSS is installed ?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> doesn't show up
[10:49] <soulrider> !nonfree
[10:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about nonfree - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:49] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: dpkg -l DeCSS
[10:49] <soulrider> !mp3
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Assuming that is the actual name of the app.  Might just be decss or something similar
[10:49] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: how long ago did you install dapper, fresh install or upgrade?
yes it works fine actually using konqueror has many advantages
[10:50] <draik> Is there a way of knowing the install date of Kubuntu?
[10:50] <RogueX> htraki: I am back to the same thing again.. LOL  Adept says libdvdcss2 not installed and cant because of confilict
[10:50] <Jack1> just opera works better with those flash things and stuff
[10:50] <rr72> !flash
[10:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
i read that
[10:50] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: I just installed last week
[10:51] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: can you play dvds?
[10:51] <rr72> Jack1~ that was for my own reading
ok sry i thought that was response
[10:51] <rr72> i don't even know u had a question, im not here, im playing a game
[10:51] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: not since I ran the purge command
[10:51] <DaSkreech> rr72: please stop doing that in the channel play with the bot in /msg
[10:52] <htraki> RogueX:Command line never fails
[10:52] <DaSkreech> rr72: Bots get lonely too :)
[10:52] <rr72> DaSkreech~ that ws my first time "playing" with that bot
[10:52] <htraki> use dpkg
[10:52] <RogueX> TheGateKeeper: is there anyway to fix dpkg's index list of what is installed?
[10:52] <Hawkwind> LOL DaSkreech
[10:52] <rr72> i have 3 bots and they all do nothing, they are just code they can't get lonely
[10:52] <RogueX> htraki: what was that suggestion to making the files?
[10:52] <rr72> can i get source code for opera?
[10:53] <htraki> dpkg --pending
[10:53] <DaSkreech> Yeah but if it's confusing people in the channel it's not helping. You can play with it in /msg
[10:53] <gnomefre1k> rr72: no
[10:53] <TheGateKeeper> RogueX: beyond my current knowledge sorry :-(
[10:53] <rr72> gnomefre1k~ :(
[10:53] <rr72> DaSkreech~ i wasnt playing
[10:53] <rr72> gnomefre1k~ any specific reason or no?
[10:53] <gnomefre1k> rr72: its closed source
[10:54] <rr72> that would be a good reason
[10:54] <gnomefre1k> brb
[10:54] <rr72> ty gnomefre1k
[10:54] <RogueX> htraki: dpkg --pending... needs action item
[10:57] <htraki> add --purge after pending
[10:59] <RogueX> I ran it
[11:02] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, did you find out which's the best of the audio programs in linux?
[11:03] <DaSkreech> bl3ssing: Did you read the article?
[11:05] <mmorris> Is anyone here answering questions?
[11:06] <mmorris> Hello???
[11:06] <DaSkreech> mmorris: No
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Doh! I just naswered one
[11:06] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: first you have to ask one :-)
[11:06] <mmorris> oh
[11:06] <uniq> mmorris: shoot.
[11:06] <uniq> :)
[11:07] <mmorris> I am brand spankin new to Kubuntu...but I was told about XGL, where can I find this at?
[11:07] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Might want to finish with the spanking before that :)
[11:07] <mmorris> ha ha
[11:07] <mmorris> spanking is over with...
[11:07] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[11:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:08] <DaSkreech> The last URL
[11:08] <DaSkreech> It will break stuff you have been warned
[11:09] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Know anything about how to fix dpkg?
[11:09] <DaSkreech> What's broken?
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> mmorris: not officially supported to you might want to learn to walk before you try to run, there are also other channels if you need help with xgl like #ubuntu-xgl
[11:09] <RogueX> DaSkreech: Adept says 2 files are install that are really not installed
[11:10] <mmorris> okay... thanks
[11:10] <DaSkreech> really?
[11:10] <DaSkreech> Which two
[11:10] <RogueX> DaSkreech: yes... and inturn it wont let me install packages
[11:11] <RogueX> DaSkreech: because of conflict
[11:11] <DaSkreech> have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:11] <uniq> RogueX: what packages are you talking about? and what files?
[11:11] <RogueX> DaSkreech: just did now...   lol
[11:13] <RogueX> uniq: I have 2 files libdvdcss0.0.1 and libdvdcss0.0.2 NOT on system but Adept and Synaptic thinks they are so I can not install libdvdcss2 because of conflict with the 2 no existent files
[11:13] <DaSkreech> RogueX: Worked?
[11:14] <uniq> RogueX: if adept and synaptic think they are, did you try to remove them?
[11:14] <RogueX> DaSkreech: no  :( still listed
[11:14] <RogueX> uniq: how do you remove somthing thats not there?
[11:14] <uniq> RogueX: tried to remove them with 'sudo dpkg -P libdvdcss0.0.1' ?
[11:15] <uniq> RogueX: well.. adept/synaptic/dpkg doesn't just make up installed packaged.
[11:15] <uniq> packages.. that is.
[11:15] <RogueX> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libdvdcss0.0.1 which isn't installed.
[11:15] <uniq> ok, what's the error when you try to install libdvdcss2 then?
[11:18] <Ertain> Every time I download the ManDVD archive for the latest release, Ark can't open it.
[11:19] <RogueX> uniq: Synaptic installed it.. finally.. some progress..
[11:20] <RogueX> uniq: But Adept Manager still reports conflict.  eventhough its installed
[11:20] <uniq> what conflict? error message please.
[11:20] <bl3ssing> yes
[11:20] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, YES!
[11:20] <bl3ssing> DaSkreech, rosegarden is the ONE?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> So grab the one that speaks to you and try it out :)
[11:21] <mmorris> If I install a program from Adept, how does that work?
[11:21] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Which program?
[11:21] <nizoral> ciao a tutti ho un problema con firefox scaricc.. con apt-get potete aiutarmi??? grazie
[11:22] <mmorris> that 3d thing
[11:22] <DaSkreech> !es
[11:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:22] <RogueX> uniq: does not give error message just shows " conflict : libdvdcss0.0.1
[11:22] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Ah XGL and compiz?
[11:22] <mmorris> well, just 3d desktop
[11:22] <mmorris> i don't want to try the real thing yet
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Ahhhm hold on
[11:22] <mmorris> lol
[11:23] <uniq> RogueX: ok, what if you try to do something with apt-get in konsole?
[11:23] <mmorris> okay
[11:23] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Oh that thing. It gives you an applet so that you have a button the taskbar
[11:23] <RogueX> uniq: I think I am going to give up and worry about it when it breaks again.  It is only a problem when an update comes out then I cant install the update
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Then you press it and your desktop goes 3D
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Well the switcher goes 3D
[11:24] <mmorris> where is the button?
[11:24] <mmorris> I dont see it
[11:25] <RogueX> uniq: Thank you
[11:25] <mmorris> DaScreech - where is the button that it gives me?
[11:25] <DaSkreech> mmorris: As I recall Right click the taskbar and select add applet
[11:26] <mmorris> which applet is it?
[11:26] <mmorris> I dont see it in there
[11:27] <rmw75> need help with wireless card
[11:28] <mmorris> DaScreech: which applet do I add?  I dont see it in the list6
[11:28] <mmorris> list
[11:28] <DaSkreech> HOld on
[11:28] <DaSkreech> mmorris: Can You open a konsole?
[11:28] <mmorris> yea
[11:29] <DaSkreech> type 3ddesk
[11:29] <mmorris> oh, okay
[11:29] <DaSkreech> It worked?
[11:29] <mmorris> so, everytime I want to do that, I have to type that command in?
[11:30] <mmorris> yeah, it worked... but it was so small, I couldn't see the screen... that just turned the desktops
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Nope add a non KDE menu launcher applet
[11:30] <DaSkreech> You can adjust the distance
[11:31] <rmw75> need help with wireless card
[11:31] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[11:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:31] <mmorris> DaSkreech:  what do I type in this Non-KDE Application?
[11:31] <rmw75> it's installed right just not activating
[11:32] <scott> hiya folks
[11:32] <scott> any got any tips for a new Linux user on using K9 copy
[11:32] <mmorris> DaSkreech: you here?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> You can name the top too anything that you like
[11:32] <DaSkreech> the thrid one is 3ddesk in quotes
[11:32] <DaSkreech> "3ddesk"
[11:32] <mmorris> executable?
[11:32] <scott> I have a dvd of my holiday that a friend put together and it is encryted and will not actually make further copies
[11:33] <DaSkreech> Yes
[11:33] <mmorris> then what?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> You can press the button with the gears to choose a new icon if you like
[11:33] <DaSkreech> Then I think you can press ok
[11:33] <DaSkreech> Then use that button
[11:34] <mmorris> How can I adjust the distance?
[11:34] <DaSkreech> Erm
[11:34] <mmorris> What is Erm?
[11:35] <mmorris> you may not even be talking to me...
[11:35] <DaSkreech> I think there is a config file
[11:35] <mmorris> where would that be at, and what would it be called?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> look in ~/.3ddesktop
[11:35] <scott> I am told it is like shrink but it does not seem to work the same way
[11:36] <mmorris> where would that be DaSkreech?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[11:36] <DaSkreech> ~ is your home folder
[11:36] <mmorris> I didn't see one there
[11:36] <DaSkreech> and a . means that it's a hidden folder
[11:37] <DaSkreech> So look in the view menu and show hidden folders
[11:37] <mmorris> sorry, I see it
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Though I'm thinking maybe not...
[11:37] <mmorris> All it has is a file in it called pid
[11:37] <DaSkreech> ok
[11:37] <mmorris> I open pid and all I get is a 6024
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Still have the konsole open?
[11:38] <mmorris> yes
[11:38] <DaSkreech> type man 3ddesk
[11:38] <DaSkreech> That should give you a manual you can read
[11:38] <shadedpast>  Help neither of my cd drives are displayed in media
[11:39] <shadedpast> it wont register them when inserted either it says file cannot be found
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Does your cdroms turn up in the system settings?
[11:40] <shadedpast> no
[11:40] <DaSkreech> Hrmm
[11:41] <DaSkreech> And they turn up in the BIOS?
[11:41] <shadedpast> o they apear in system settings
[11:41] <DaSkreech> Do they have any error messages?
[11:41] <shadedpast> no
[11:42] <DaSkreech> This is under Disks and filesystems?
[11:42] <shadedpast> ???
[11:43] <shadedpast> o yes
[11:43] <mmorris> DaSkreech... I hate to be a bother, but I don't understand that stuff...
[11:43] <DaSkreech> mmorris: What does it say?
[11:43] <DaSkreech> Ok does it say disabled?
[11:43] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Does it say disabled?
[11:43] <mmorris> it looks like it gives me a list of commands, but they don't mean anything to me...
[11:43] <mmorris> lol
[11:43] <shadedpast> no
[11:43] <shadedpast> it shows up normal
[11:44] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: have you tried moutning them yourself?
[11:44] <DaSkreech> mmorris: ok What don't you understand about them?
[11:44] <shadedpast> but under media all that appears is my floppy
[11:44] <shadedpast> how?
[11:44] <DaSkreech> shadedpast: Want to do a quick dirty test?
[11:45] <shadedpast> sure
[11:45] <mmorris> Well, first of all I dont know which one is supposed to adjust the zoom, and second, if I did know, I wouldn't know how to use them... they all do the same thing.  I know I'm doing something wrong