[08:56] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[08:56] <anon32> um, is dualbooting with dual hard drives any different than with partitioning?
[08:56] <tristan_> OK. Then I must be an exception. It run fine on my system
[08:56] <lupine_85> and Asterisk... and Obelix, too ;)
[08:57] <Flannel> anon32: nope.
[08:57] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: I download from http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[08:57] <frying_fish> anon32: no.
[08:57] <Exclamation> im having problem with my wireless. its detected, light is on. iwconfig looks good. im usifn networkmanager to connect but i cant get an ip from wireless, wired works fine...
[08:57] <_azrael> anon32: Only possible difference is to make sure your bios points at the hard drive that has GRUB on it.
[08:57] <lupine_85> anon32: it's easier
[08:57] <frying_fish> so long as grub knows where to boot which from.
[08:57] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: go to manual...
[08:57] <Jeruvy> anon32: other than it's easier to split them up later...no.
[08:57] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: k
[08:57] <anon32> hmm, and can I install a different version of windows over my existing install safely?
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Still waiting for this old slow laptop..
[08:58] <anon32> or will that f- my grub partition?
[08:58] <Flannel> anon32: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:58] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: k
[08:58] <MinisterPolite> anon32:  you'll need to restore grub
[08:58] <anon32> thanks
[08:58] <lupine_85> anon32: windows will kill the bootloader on the drive it's installed to
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: yes it will hose your grub, but it is fixable
[08:58] <anon32> ok
[08:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[08:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:58] <fooba1> Flannel:  nvidia drivers?  I think it's got a Radeon card in it right now...
[08:58] <lupine_85> if that's not the primary boot drive, you probably won't notice anything
[08:58] <fooba1> Flannel: hmm...
[08:58] <anon32> oh yeah, what about ntfs write support?
[08:59] <Flannel> fooba1: did I accidentally send it to you?  sorry, meant foo.
[08:59] <lupine_85> !ntfs
[08:59] <frying_fish> anon32: not likely
[08:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:59] <anon32> any ideas on how to get ntfs write support? I know about captive ntfs, anything else?
[08:59] <lupine_85> anon32: possible but discouraged, and quite likely to break your ntfs drive
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Does it show partitions the same as you pasted earlier
[08:59] <Flannel> !fuse
[08:59] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:59] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[08:59] <Exclamation> i dont understand why no of the experts in here can help me... :(
[08:59] <j`ey> http://pastie.caboo.se/11671
[08:59] <lupine_85> make a backup first :)
[09:00] <lupine_85> Exclamation: what chipset?
[09:00] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastie.caboo.se/11671
[09:00] <tristan_> Exclamation, do you choose DHCP?
[09:00] <Exclamation> lupine_85, broadcom, but i belive its setup correctly
[09:00] <feryana> seems that now is installing, anyways I downloading the alternatre
[09:00] <Exclamation> Tristan, yes, its set to dhcp
[09:00] <lupine_85> ok, dump networkmanager and go to console
[09:00] <feryana> is wierd coz sometimes get frozen other times no
[09:00] <Flannel> anon32: read that link
[09:01] <anon32> 404
[09:01] <anon32> sorry
[09:01] <lupine_85> what does "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" give you? (I think it's eth1, change if needed)
[09:01] <adamant1988> !seen atoponce
[09:01] <ubotu> atoponce is on IRC right now!
[09:01] <lupine_85> anon32: grub-install <drive>
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Got it thanks.. click on ntfs
[09:01] <anon32> ok
[09:01] <lupine_85> e.g. sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: partitions should show at top of screen
[09:01] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to play flv files ?
[09:01] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[09:01] <tristan_> ProN00b, you can play it in mplayer
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: arrow above that resize
[09:02] <ProN00b> tristan_, but i can't seek
[09:02] <Flannel> anon32: it's not a 404, its a bit slow though: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:02] <Exclamation> in iwconfig, RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off. does that mean anything?
[09:02] <eod_punk> anyone know of a way to disable the password prompt when opening a laptop LCD?
[09:02] <anon32> pronoob: try gnash
[09:02] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: on the biggest 30 gb drive?
[09:02] <anon32> it works for flash up to v7
[09:02] <|thunder> thanks alot everyone, that BIOS tip got my KB working in DOS. cudos
[09:02] <ProN00b> tristan_, if i try to seek forward or backwards it just quits
[09:02] <rapha> Hi all!
[09:02] <ProN00b> anon32, whats gnash ?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> 34gig
[09:02] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow:
[09:03] <j`ey> yeh
[09:03] <feryana> hawking pcmecia wifi doesn't need drivers!!!!!!!!!!
[09:03] <bannedbruenig> gnash = gnu flash
[09:03] <anon32> pronoob: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNASH
[09:03] <rapha> Does somebody know the name of the software that does Compositing for Win XP?
[09:03] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: resize options?
[09:03] <ProN00b> anon32, i can't find it in the repos
[09:03] <tristan_> ProN00b, same here. Sorry, I don't know how to seek
[09:03] <foo> Why doesn't this visudo entry work? foo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ? I type sudo su - and it still asks for password.
[09:03] <anon32> pronoob: install it manually then
[09:03] <UKMatt> I have a broken X (graphics), and I think it's because of the NVidea graphics i put on, does anyone know how to fix that
[09:03] <looktj> clearzen: vmware didnt remove
[09:03] <bannedbruenig> ProN00b, it isn't available in the repos, have to get it from their site
[09:03] <clearzen> how did you install it?
[09:03] <bannedbruenig> !nvidia
[09:03] <anon32> this is probably the wrong place to ask, but how can I flash my bios?
[09:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:03] <ProN00b> anon32, you sure i can seek with it ?
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: You are at resize options...  you want to reduce the middle number by 10 gigs or so..
[09:04] <absolut> Hye, anybody know how to enable/disable 5.1 surround with Ubuntu?
[09:04] <frying_fish> anon32: depends on hte motherboard.
[09:04] <anon32> pronoob: zzz....
[09:04] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: k
[09:04] <lupine_85> anon32: check with your mobo manufacturere
[09:04] <feryana> on a Pentium III with 640 MB of RAM Dapper Dake will work fine ,right????
[09:04] <UKMatt> bannedbruenig, i already put them on, i think thats what broke it
[09:04] <looktj> it is vmware server
[09:04] <anon32> frying_fish: I know... my main problem is that I have a phoenix bios, and I can't find instructions on flashing
[09:04] <|thunder> feryana, yes sir
[09:04] <rapha> feryana: yes
[09:04] <lupine_85> and get it right or you'll be left with a useless chunk of silicon and fibreglass ;)
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: you want ) free preceeding  and all free following
[09:04] <anon32> feryana: yes
[09:04] <frying_fish> check with the manufacturer.
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> 0
[09:04] <anon32> though I recommend a new CPU
[09:04] <clearzen> but how did you install the package? from source?
[09:04] <feryana> cool, then now on both computers Linux
[09:04] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: done that
[09:04] <feryana> I have a last questing
[09:04] <clearzen> did you use aptitude
[09:04] <lupine_85> feryana: xubuntu would run fine
[09:04] <anon32> frying_fish: they refuse to help me flash my bios :-(
[09:04] <looktj> from source
[09:04] <UKMatt> clearzen, who me?
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: click on resize
[09:05] <feryana> in this pc, there still 10 Gb with fucking Windows XP
[09:05] <bannedbruenig> !language
[09:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:05] <feryana> how can I erase it and add it to Linux space?
[09:05] <clearzen>  UKMattno sorry
[09:05] <frying_fish> anon32: then uuse google or something.
[09:05] <|thunder> feryana, language warning
[09:05] <anon32> feryana: zzz.... your point? you can delete your partition
[09:05] <bannedbruenig> feryana, just use gparted and delete it
[09:05] <feryana> sorry |thunder I h8 windows  a lot
[09:05] <anon32> boot to either ubuntu or a dos cd and format over it
[09:05] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: I now have unnalloctaed of 14gb or soi
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: It could take awhile depending on your system
[09:05] <clearzen> looktj: did you use checkinstall or makeinstall to install the files?
[09:05] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: just do that?
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: click next?
[09:06] <frying_fish> feryana: just delete the windows partition once ubuntu is booted
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> but since you dont have much in XP it wont be too bad
[09:06] <|thunder> feryana, thats great. just dont cuss. there may be youngsters here
[09:06] <feryana> ok thanks!!! Then I can add it to my swapt partition?
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: click next?>
[09:06] <eod_punk> anyone know of a way to disable the password prompt when opening a laptop LCD?
[09:06] <frying_fish> then just format it to a reiserfs or ext3 partition
[09:06] <frying_fish> and mount it somehwre.
[09:06] <feryana> for having more swapt and get faster :D
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> IS it done..
[09:06] <anon32> feryana: yes, use a partition tool
[09:06] <bannedbruenig> 10 GB swap partition? probably not necessary
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: not yet, but I have to go
[09:06] <anon32> more swap is useless, get MORE RAM
[09:06] <looktj> i ran a file
[09:06] <IceTox> is it possible to change hostname without having to reboot ubuntu? If so, how? :)
[09:06] <UKMatt> is there a way to uninstall and then reinstall a graphics driver from command line
[09:06] <frying_fish> feryana: use fdisk
[09:06] <frying_fish> or gparted
[09:06] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: what shall I do afterwards?
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Ok.. but yes next.. and let it run
[09:06] <frying_fish> or qparted depending on environment
[09:07] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: ill be back later
[09:07] <UKMatt> and btw talking about swap, anything over 1.5x your RAM doesn't matter
[09:07] <j`ey> Jack_Sparrow: I have to run
[09:07] <feryana> ok.... I'll try |thunder is just that Windows bothers me you don't imagene how, but what you say is true :P
[09:07] <looktj> i ran vmware-install.pl
[09:07] <|thunder> eod_punk, its in the BIOS. If you cant get rid of it you might have to remove the battery for a few minutes.(mobo battery) or hit the bios reset jumper.
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Once it is resized, I would back out of the installer and go back in and tell it to use all unallocated space.
[09:07] <j`ey> k
[09:07] <feryana> (I use to say sh..dows xD
[09:07] <anon32> ukmatt: yes, there's a command line package manager
[09:07] <tristan_> IceTox, you can change the hostname with
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> j`ey_: Lots of good people here to help if I am not around
[09:07] <tristan_> IceTox, hostname new-name
[09:07] <eod_punk> thunder its not there unless ubuntu put it there
[09:07] <x_O> whats the best way to install XGL/Compiz on Ubuntu?
[09:07] <IceTox> oh cool Tristan thanks :)
[09:08] <bannedbruenig> !xgl
[09:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:08] <UKMatt> anon32, do you know how to use it to uninstall/reinstall though b/c i'm not good w/ command line
[09:08] <feryana> hhahahahhaha
[09:08] <looktj> is there any program to send ubuntu back to a certain date?
[09:08] <|thunder> eod_punk, you talking about the GDM password prompt ?
[09:08] <x_O> ah an irc just for it lol
[09:08] <feryana> nah I'm happy today, I saved my second poor pc from it
[09:08] <silian87> hello to all
[09:08] <|thunder> eod_punk, where it says UBUNTU at the brown screen ?
[09:08] <silian87> sorry, this is my problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58566
[09:08] <silian87> where i can find amarok-1.4.2-0ubuntu3  ?
[09:08] <feryana> coz it had windows 2k, and I was using firefox, thunderbird, etc... no viruses, no spyware and everyday it was going worst
[09:09] <anon32> uh, what kernel version is included on the 6.x dapper drake cds?
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: Normally I would use a backup
[09:09] <looktj> like window's system restore?
[09:09] <feryana> and yesterday I said. thats it xD
[09:09] <eod_punk> after i'm logged in if i close the lcd it asks for the password, i don't want it to i close the lid quite a bit
[09:09] <feryana> but it has a dockstation and can't boot live cd from there
[09:09] <looktj> i dont have a backup
[09:09] <anon32> feryana: um.... that's probably because of hard drive failure, my windows install is fine after a year
[09:09] <feryana> but I bought and external double layer dvd rom
[09:09] <looktj> :S
[09:09] <bannedbruenig> my repos only have 1.4.2-0ubuntu2~dapper1
[09:09] <IceTox> Trinisan, yeah, but the hostname doesn't change just by doing that, does it? don't I have to update anything?
[09:09] <feryana> anon32 nah, the hard disk is ok...
[09:09] <lupine_85> aon32: 2.6.15-23
[09:09] <silian87> bannedbruenig: Mine too :-(
[09:09] <feryana> I saw many computers like that
[09:10] <anon32> thanks, I thought it was a 2.4 kernel
[09:10] <silian87> strange they don't put a bugfux
[09:10] <eod_punk> i know the password i just don't want to be prompted for it.  I'm not talking about logging in either.  simular to how you can have it ask for it when the screen saver comes on
[09:10] <bannedbruenig> silian87, why do you need the other one?
[09:10] <clearzen> looktj: Unfortunatley I do not know how to uninstall if you installed from a script because I don't know exactly how it was installed. sorry
[09:10] <silian87> is a 4 days waiting
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I would like to stress the importance of a backup.  It just takes a minute to type one line in a terminal.  It can save you hours or work and frustration.
[09:10] <silian87> bannedbruenig: for solving this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58566
[09:10] <anon32> mm... the only problem I've ever noticed with windows is a lack of preinstalled software
[09:10] <IceTox> sudo: unable to lookup rebecca via gethostbyname() <--- Trinisan
[09:10] <feryana> anon32 in this pc there is the 10Gb windows partition... and when I have to go for something... every time there are more errors, and I never use that windows, and Linux here is working fine like always, so the hard disk is not the problem, is just Micro$oft!!!!!!
[09:11] <anon32> um, how do I get access to iptables config?
[09:11] <eod_punk> anon32, good preinstalled or bad preinstalled software?
[09:11] <anon32> preferably from the gui?
[09:11] <anon32> eod_punk: good point, :-\
[09:11] <bannedbruenig> 6 exclamation points is too far, 5 is pushing it but six is just obscene
[09:11] <looktj> jack_sparrow what kind of backup?
[09:11] <anon32> too much junk on these latest dells
[09:11] <looktj> i agree anon32
[09:11] <feryana> 68% on the other pc.... maybe I wont need the alternate
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: I use a simple one line command from cli
[09:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[09:11] <feryana> 56% alternet download.. is like a race haha
[09:11] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[09:11] <anon32> where's the iptables config? looktj: that does help to reduce PC price though
[09:11] <eod_punk> I know of one computer manufactor that doesn't install all the crap
[09:12] <looktj> like mbr backup?
[09:12] <eod_punk> i'm sure there are more though
[09:12] <godfather> guys i did everything that was written on documentation
[09:12] <anon32> eod_punk: if you order a DELL N-series, you don't get any crap either
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: You can do that with dd
[09:12] <godfather> i've installed frostwire
[09:12] <godfather> i've installed the java lib
[09:12] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: I use tar for the full Ub install
[09:12] <Drevan> finally got everything set up perfectly, feels good
[09:12] <looktj> i did a couple days ago
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Drevan: Make a backup...
[09:13] <godfather> there's the frostwire icon  beetween "internet" application but it doesn't work
[09:13] <anon32> ANYONE? where's the config for iptables? hell, is iptables even included (it should be, it's part of the kernel)
[09:13] <encryptz> jenda: yet here i am (atoponce)...
[09:13] <eod_punk> |thunder, any other idea's about the password prompt?
[09:13] <looktj> ok im gonna reinstall ubuntu
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: Yes iptables are part of the kernel..
[09:13] <looktj> since idk howto uninstall a source
[09:13] <anon32> jack_sparrow: where's the config?
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: You can use firestarter to manage the firewall.
[09:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[09:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[09:14] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[09:14] <anon32> thanks
[09:14] <godfather> anyone can help me
[09:14] <|thunder> eod_punk, i dont think you can auto-login on linux/ubuntu. not that I know of anyways.
[09:14] <looktj> anon32: sudo aptitude install firestarter
[09:14] <anon32> say, it's called iptables/netfilter is there a difference between the two?
[09:14] <anon32> looktj: argh, more installing...
[09:14] <eod_punk> I know how to auto login, i just want to do away with being asked to put my password in after I open my lcd screen
[09:15] <frying_fish> |thunder: you can set up auto login
[09:15] <foo> Why doesn't this visudo entry work? foo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL ? I type sudo su - and it still asks for password.
[09:15] <looktj> *pops in live cd* off to reinstall ubuntu
[09:15] <frying_fish> eod_punk: ahh that, I have that as well, I suppose I could look into changing that behaviour, but its useful at the same time.
[09:15] <anon32> hmm, what about secure logon? like "press ctrl+alt+del to start"?
[09:15] <borstalbreakout> i am very new to linux and ubuntu, but i have a question. i have a 30 gigabyte folder of music on my harddrive that i do not want to lose. i want to know if there is any way to slap ubuntu on my windows partition and have it boot ubuntu instead of windows, and then i can delete the WINDOWS folder and all the other crap, but keep my music folder. is this possible?
[09:15] <feryana> 89%
[09:15] <feryana> :)
[09:16] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: nope,
[09:16] <eod_punk> frying_fish, not for me If i want it locked I will lock it
[09:16] <feryana> my little piii is doing fine
[09:16] <anon32> borstalbreakout: vmware, though your performance will suck
[09:16] <feryana> pIII
[09:16] <borstalbreakout> couldnt get it work on vmware either
[09:16] <borstalbreakout> that sucks
[09:16] <PanicFo> how do i remove a service from a runlevel?
[09:16] <anon32> is there a way to get a secure logon prompt? such as "press ctrl+alt+del to start"?
[09:16] <borstalbreakout> if i got windows and ubuntu to dualboot could i still access the music with both of them?
[09:16] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: no, it's because you cannot make a whole new filesystem format and expect it to know the exact cylinders and how things were stored in another format.
[09:16] <jgerber> cant get new sessions configured under System->sessions to show up under the gdm sessions menu...
[09:16] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: yes.
[09:16] <anon32> borstalbreakout: um... and no, you can't run linux off of a NTFS partition
[09:16] <esc> how do i get at CPU temp?
[09:17] <anon32> you should... BACKUP
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> damn
[09:17] <frying_fish> you can't run off ntfs though.
[09:17] <eod_punk> stick a thermometer in its mouth lol sorry
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> its too big to backup, otherwise i would
[09:17] <anon32> buy a hard drive, they're not that expensive
[09:17] <jgerber> you could convert the ntfs to fat
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> well my drive is mtfs i believe
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> that sucks
[09:17] <frying_fish> borstalbreakout: its not to big if you have a spare partition big enough to house it
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> ntfs*
[09:17] <anon32> jgerber: at his own risk though
[09:17] <borstalbreakout> i dont
[09:17] <eod_punk> esc, maybe a gdesklet?
[09:17] <frying_fish> could always buy another
[09:18] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, generally what you do is: you shrink your windows partition, install ubuntu on the free space and read your windows partition from ubuntu
[09:18] <PanicFo> is there any documentation on how runlevels and daemons work?
[09:18] <anon32> *buy a new hard drive* they're pretty cheap, I'm getting a 100GB one for $20
[09:18] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, don't listen to the other bozos in here, they are on dope
[09:18] <frying_fish> PanicFo: lots from google
[09:18] <jgerber> annon32: of course
[09:18] <borstalbreakout> well how would i go about doing that?
[09:18] <anon32> borstalbreakout: doing what?
[09:18] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, well, how much space do you have left on that windows partition ?
[09:18] <anon32> buying a new hard drive? or resizing?
[09:18] <borstalbreakout> what ProN00b said
[09:19] <borstalbreakout> about 15 gigs
[09:19] <anon32> resizing can be done with gparted
[09:19] <looktj> no backups sucks
[09:19] <ProN00b> 15 gigs is good
[09:19] <borstalbreakout> what i want to backup is over 30 gigs though
[09:19] <looktj> i wish i knew command to backup
[09:19] <anon32> pronoob: I was under the impression that the less space, the higher the risk of partition damag
[09:19] <looktj> and put in tar
[09:19] <jgerber> annon32: i had the best experience installing linux ever with dapper. resized my xp partition and set up a dual no problem
[09:20] <godfather> anyone who has installed frostwire?
[09:20] <eod_punk> dapper is good for that, i had a nice experience with it as well
[09:20] <anon32> mm, I don't feel like playing russian roulette with my hard drive
[09:20] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, get like partition magic or something, or get the gparted bootdisk or something, and make your windows partition smaller so you have about 15 gigs to install ubuntu
[09:20] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, then just install on that space
[09:20] <jgerber> now i am having lots of fun with xgl and compiz
[09:20] <eod_punk> xgl is pretty sweet
[09:20] <borstalbreakout> is there maybe a howto on this...
[09:20] <godfather> please help me
[09:20] <eod_punk> mmm rain drops
[09:20] <godfather> with java
[09:20] <frying_fish> looktj: tar cjf backup.tar.bz2 /bin /etc /var   (and so on)
[09:20] <frying_fish> but make sure you are in /
[09:20] <borstalbreakout> i fucked up another computer trying to install linux
[09:21] <jgerber> eye candy.... fun stuff. I just want to set up two sessions... one with xgl and one without.
[09:21] <anon32> oh yea, you can only resize by as much as the last non-fragmented section of your partion.
[09:21] <jgerber> i dont understand why the system->sessions isnt working for this
[09:21] <eod_punk> the tutorial I went through had me do that
[09:21] <anon32> you should defrag first, borstalbreakout
[09:21] <looktj> !language
[09:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:21] <anon32> family friendly? only ubernerds even know what ubuntu is
[09:21] <Jack_Sparrow> looktj: tar -cvpzlf /backup.tgz --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz /   is what I use...
[09:22] <borstalbreakout> oh well
[09:22] <tristan_> Does someone know if in the new Ubuntu kernel, Toshiba ACPI will be precompiled?
[09:22] <frying_fish> Jack_Sparrow: that does it too
[09:22] <borstalbreakout> im even more confused about this now
[09:22] <skirk> hi
[09:22] <anon32> that's what you get for asking on an IRC channel :-p
[09:22] <borstalbreakout> heh
[09:22] <bob_jensen> hi all
[09:22] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, you just gotta resize your partition, i am sure you can find on google how to do that nicely, if you have free space you can install ubuntu there safely
[09:22] <eod_punk> sometimes you get an answer sometimes you get to many answers
[09:22] <skirk> how can i install BitTorrent??????
[09:23] <looktj> anyone know chell?
[09:23] <borstalbreakout> gparted is the program i use for that, right?
[09:23] <ProN00b> skirk, FAIL !
[09:23] <eod_punk> isn't it installed automatically?
[09:23] <bob_jensen> i am going to show off ubuntu to a friend tomorrow .. and i want the experience to be extremely smooth :) he has a core duo pentium D processor .. which kernel is right for him /
[09:23] <skirk> :S
[09:23] <skirk> what?
[09:23] <anon32> borstalbreakout: but remember, only by as much as your largest unfragmented free section
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> borstalbreakout: That will do it yes.
[09:23] <jgerber> i like partition magic... never has failed me
[09:23] <ProN00b> borstalbreakout, or partition magic
[09:23] <tristan_> bob_jensen, i386
[09:23] <bob_jensen> and he has an ati xpress 200 onboard card ... do i install the fglrx drivers ?
[09:23] <looktj> he walked me through installing vmware server
[09:23] <borstalbreakout> alright
[09:23] <godfather> guys,
[09:23] <anon32> so, that's slightly less than your total free space
[09:23] <borstalbreakout> expect me in here later
[09:23] <eod_punk> skirk, bit torrent was auto installed for me
[09:23] <looktj> brb
[09:23] <skirk> mmm
[09:23] <bob_jensen> tristan_: ouch, the default i386 kernel ?
[09:23] <bob_jensen> not i686 smp ?
[09:24] <anon32> bob_jensen: too bad all the good features on the ati cards are missing with linux drivers :-\
[09:24] <godfather> is there anyone who installed frostwire resolving java problem
[09:24] <tristan_> bob_jensen, with a live CD of Dapper I think that everything should run fine
[09:24] <borstalbreakout> is there maybe a way i could install ubuntu and use a boot cd to get into it, like dynebolic
[09:24] <bob_jensen> tristan_: yes, but he says his resolution is something like 340*XXX
[09:24] <skirk> i cant see BITTORRENT.......
[09:24] <bob_jensen> like the old vga displays (in his words :P)
[09:24] <feryana> ACCOMPLISHED
[09:24] <tristan_> anon32, well I have an ATI and did not install any drivers and I have 3D accell and nice rendering so it is just what I wanted
[09:24] <Jack_Sparrow> bob_jensen: ati isnt giving out any info.. maybe with AMD now they will
[09:24] <borstalbreakout> bittorrent is on the add or remove programs thing i think
[09:24] <feryana> lol alternate downloaded in 20 mins xDDDDDDDDDD
[09:24] <anon32> mm... but for stuff like dynamic overclocking and SLI?
[09:25] <skirk> ok i try
[09:25] <Vehendi> Does ubuntu work on an ati radeon x800 gto
[09:25] <bob_jensen> i think he's got the baddest of them all ..  intel dual core, ati, and an lcd screen :P :P :P .. how do i go about now ? :(
[09:25] <feryana> b
[09:25] <feryana> n
[09:25] <feryana> now I don't need it
[09:25] <feryana> it installed with the desktop CD
[09:25] <feryana> zS
[09:25] <ProN00b> bob_jensen, install him windows xp so he can play his counterstrike
[09:25] <tristan_> bob_jensen, what would be his computer?
[09:25] <bob_jensen> ProN00b: that's already done ;)
[09:25] <bob_jensen> tristan_: assembled, not any brand
[09:25] <borstalbreakout> is there maybe a way i could install ubuntu and use a boot cd to get into it, like dynebolic
[09:26] <tristan_> bob_jensen, did he try any live CD?
[09:26] <borstalbreakout> instead of grub
[09:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !boot
[09:26] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:26] <bob_jensen> i mainly want to ask - 1) what kernel ? 2) do i install fglrx or no ? 3) how do i set display right ?
[09:26] <clearzen> borstalbreakout: you can access any kind of filesystem with a live cd as far as I know.
[09:26] <bob_jensen> tristan_: he did .. net not working, bad resolution
[09:26] <bob_jensen> the only complains
[09:26] <jgerber> anyone notice that you cannot seem to add a session via system->sessions?????
[09:26] <rafael-ec> how can i shar my printer over the lan to other linux machines
[09:26] <clearzen> at least i haven't found one they don't work on
[09:26] <rafael-ec> using cups and ipp?
[09:26] <jgerber> it looks like it works through the interface, but it doesnt add a session to the session menu
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> ubuntus not letting me see into my harddrive...
[09:27] <tristan_> bob_jensen, 1) kernel should be i386 because he has an intel proc. 2) fglrx should be default install for ATI card, I think
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> it says unable to mount or something
[09:27] <clearzen> is your hdd mounted?
[09:27] <bob_jensen> also, his net is the one with static ip in ethernet lan card .. easy enough i guess?
[09:27] <ProN00b> tristan_, why no i686 ?
[09:27] <absolut> is there a way to run Steam through cedega? right now it's been popping errors for me
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> i dont know what that means
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> im very new to linux
[09:27] <\usr\Cyph> pls, what is the requeriment to run the ubuntu?
[09:27] <b0ysc0ut> how can i find out how many people r log in into my computer?
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> borstalbreakout: Is it a raid array
[09:27] <bob_jensen> tristan_: why not i686 smp ? i use i686 for my p3 :) .. and smp because he has dual core ..?
[09:27] <ProN00b> absolut, i am pretty sure you can get support from cedega makers for that
[09:27] <borstalbreakout> what?
[09:28] <tristan_> Yes why not? ;)
[09:28] <absolut> k...gonna check their site
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> borstalbreakout: The drive you cannot see.  Is it setup as raid?
[09:28] <borstalbreakout> i dont know what that means...
[09:28] <borstalbreakout> i feel really stupid right now
[09:28] <skirk> i dont see BITTORRENT :/
[09:28] <godfather> i need to install java
[09:28] <clearzen> first mkdir /mnt/harddrive
[09:28] <clearzen> try this mount -t ext 3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/harddrive -v
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[09:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:28] <bob_jensen> tristan_: and ubuntu installs fglrx, the proprietary driver, by default ?!
[09:28] <godfather> anyone could help me?
[09:28] <bionoid> Hm I just installed Xgl/compiz and it works well. A little laggy when dragging windows and such, but very workable. However, firefox seems to resist more than any other application - there is a two-second (literally) response time for each letter I type, whether in the address bar, arrow-key for scrolling or in a form field. Any tips on that?
[09:28] <ProN00b> ls
[09:28] <eod_punk> i forget how I found it skirk i'm still looking though
[09:29] <skirk> ok
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> well what does raid mean?
[09:29] <clearzen> borstalbreakout: did you catch that?
[09:29] <lassegs> hi. I have a problem with my ATI card. The 3d acceleration doesnt work. can anyone help me please!
[09:29] <eod_punk> skirk, it wasn't listed at first but i found it and made it listed in the menu
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> i clicked the link but i still dont even know what hes talking about
[09:29] <skirk> ok
[09:29] <\usr\Cyph> someone can help me?
[09:29] <nahoj> any idea on how to get a laptop connect to a (otherwise) working internet?
[09:29] <clearzen> borstalbreakout: raid is when you have serveral hdd acting together in a array
[09:29] <shadow42> nahoj: Ethernet cable?
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> no
[09:29] <anon32> shadow42: !!!!!!!
[09:29] <borstalbreakout> theres only one
[09:29] <RMorris85> im having a problem copying files... it says cp: omitting directory
[09:30] <omairaslam> how do i find out the version number of my currently running ubuntu ?
[09:30] <shadow42> anon32: You didn't know I was in here?
[09:30] <bbrazil> omairaslam: lsb_release -a
[09:30] <slacker_nl> omairaslam: cat /etc/lsb_relase
[09:30] <slacker_nl> s/relase/release
[09:30] <nahoj> shadow42, yes, DMZ straight to internet, works with my laptop but not with my friends..
[09:30] <omairaslam> thanks slacker
[09:30] <eod_punk> skirk, applications-add/remove  then go to internet and you should see bit torrent listed first
[09:30] <anon32> shadow42: kickbanned again....
[09:30] <anon32> :-\
[09:30] <rcmiv> quit
[09:30] <rcmiv> ?quit
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> this is what it says when i try to get into it:
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> unalbe to mount selected volume
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> error: device /dev/sda2 is not removable
[09:30] <borstalbreakout> error: could not execute pmount
[09:30] <skirk> ok eod_punk , i see it, bur i cant link on my Desktop :/
[09:31] <clearzen> borstalbreakout:: first mkdir /mnt/harddrive
[09:31] <clearzen>  clearzen: try this mount -t ext 3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/harddrive -v
[09:31] <tristan_> bob_jensen, when I installed ubuntu, fglrx was default install for my ATI
[09:31] <slacker_nl> part #ubuntu
[09:31] <lassegs> the problem is that even with a xorg.conf that i think is proper and a fglrx i think is ok installed, a fgl_glxgears that shows 550 fps,  the s3dscreensavers and all 3d acceleration doesnt work
[09:31] <eod_punk> ok then its a matter of making it listed in your menu and i forget how i did that as well.  one more sec
[09:31] <bob_jensen> tristan_: wow, thats great ! you used the official live cd ? i find it surprising since ubuntu doesnt install any restricted or otherwise non free stuff by default
[09:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !3d
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <rcmiv> using vmware player, can I safely open a .vmx housed on an XP partition, or is NTFS an issue (writing to that file, etc)
[09:32] <borstalbreakout> alright, whatever
[09:32] <borstalbreakout> im sticking with windows
[09:32] <bob_jensen> !ati
[09:32] <tristan_> bob_jensen, yes i use official Kubuntu install CD
[09:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:32] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, i dont just need basic information :p
[09:32] <borstalbreakout> at least i know what people are talking about then
[09:32] <Otacon22> c' modo di collegare uno schermo lcd di un portatile a un fisso tramtie connettore VGA ???
[09:32] <bob_jensen> tristan_: ah, thats _great_ .. he will be installed kubuntu too :-)
[09:32] <nalioth> !it
[09:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:32] <skirk> lol Otacon22, non dovresti parlare inglese?
[09:32] <sfp> is there a way to start the vnc server via ssh?
[09:32] <Otacon22> sig, infatti ho incollato male
[09:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[09:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:33] <RMorris85> if i had a directory on my desktop named skin that i need to copy to /usr/share/pixmaps/ what command would i need to put in the terminal to replace the directory that is there already
[09:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[09:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:33] <eod_punk> skirk, right click the applications menu and click "edit menu"
[09:33] <sfp> !vncserver
[09:33] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 530 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[09:33] <nalioth> Jack_Sparrow: he's speaking italian
[09:33] <sfp> !vnc server start
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vnc server start - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <skirk> thanks eod_punk !!! :)
[09:33] <eod_punk> np skirk
[09:33] <nahoj> the laptop is connected via ethernet, ifdown eth0 followed by ifup eth0 does not work.. it keeps running on lo..
[09:33] <Vehendi> When trying to boot from a live cd ubuntu gives an x server failure - I have a ATI radeon x800 gto
[09:33] <ansic> evening all
[09:34] <rcmiv> using vmware player, can I safely open a .vmx housed on an XP partition, or is NTFS an issue (writing to that file, etc)
[09:34] <RMorris85> if i had a directory on my desktop named skin that i need to copy to /usr/share/pixmaps/ what command would i need to put in the terminal to replace the directory that is there already
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> nalioth: Got it.. realized my mistake and corrected it.. thanks
[09:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Grazi
[09:34] <ansic> gratzi mille ;)
[09:34] <jjwalker> Hey guys.. and girls :)
[09:34] <tristan_> nahoj, I had that problem one time and I had to add irqpol in the option of grub boot
[09:34] <feryana> hey guys!, I have in the other pc wi-fi connection, I can find available connections, i connect to one but internet doesn't works (but I can see working the little screens, what did I miss???
[09:35] <jjwalker> i'm new too linux but am picking up Ubuntu really fast and i love it
[09:35] <nahoj> tristan, how do i do that? n00b here...
[09:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ansic: seems I cant spell in any language..
[09:35] <jjwalker> i have seen some screenshots of linux destops with graphical app runningon the desktop monitoring the resources and whatnot.. anyone know what program that is?
[09:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jjwalker: I'm thinking gdesklets
[09:36] <anon32> too bad ubuntu comes with no good software, I thought that was a strong point of linux?
[09:36] <RMorris85> Jack_Sparrow: if i had a directory on my desktop named skin that i need to copy to /usr/share/pixmaps/ what command would i need to put in the terminal to replace the directory that is there already
[09:36] <tristan_> nahoj, open a terminal and type cd /boot/grub
[09:36] <sfp> !remote desktop
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <anon32> !vpn
[09:36] <ansic> anon32 there is plenty of good software
[09:36] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[09:36] <tristan_> nahoj, then sudo gedit menu.lst
[09:36] <ansic> depending on what you're looking for
[09:36] <feryana> !wifi
[09:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:36] <jhawk> jjwalker gkrellm?
[09:36] <UKMatt> How do you look up where a program is saved (where it's source is)
[09:37] <ansic> UKMatt its pre-compiled
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris85: I would cheat and run gksudo nautilus...
[09:37] <b0ysc0ut> yah
[09:37] <anon32> ansic: but nothing functional preinstalled, and I thought that was a strong point of linux distros
[09:37] <tristan_> nahoj, then go down until you see End Default Option
[09:37] <ansic> anon32 such as ?
[09:37] <clearzen> anon32: Are you serious? It completely free and all the software is very functional. It even comes with firefox as a default browser. Tell me IE is better.
[09:37] <ansic> what are you expecting to be installed ?
[09:37] <anon32> um.... there's no default installed media player... or one that's anywhere near decent
[09:37] <Phoul> !who's your daddy
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who's your daddy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Phoul> Aww
[09:37] <jjwalker> gdesktop
[09:37] <anon32> lol
[09:37] <jjwalker> or gkrellm
[09:38] <jjwalker> i will check them both out
[09:38] <tristan_> nahoj, on the line first line when you see ro quiet splash, add just after irqpoll
[09:38] <clearzen> anon32:It works fine you just need additional codecs
[09:38] <clearzen> anon32:packages I mean
[09:38] <lassegs> !codecs > anon32
[09:38] <anon32> clearzen: but it should *come* with those packages... or at least with an mplayer preinstall
[09:38] <tristan_> nahoj, then tell me when done
[09:38] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: If you have a problem we can fix please ask.  If you just want to chat about what is not installed try #Ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <eod_punk> Has anyone tried getting all the buttons working in ubuntu?  I've read up on it but haven't tried it yet.
[09:39] <nahoj> tristan, thx... right now I am having trouble with starting the terminal, when I have fixed that I will try it out! ;-)
[09:39] <clearzen> anon32:As far as i understand it is not legal for them to provide all of them free of charge
[09:39] <anon32> there's a -offtopic?
[09:39] <eod_punk> *all the buttons on a logitech mouse
[09:39] <lassegs> i have a problem you can fix but noone wants to answer, never. why is that.
[09:39] <ansic> lassegs whats the problem
[09:39] <anon32> mm.... there's something illegal with shipping xvid and libmpg?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> lassegs,  patience is a virtue. and the wiki/forums are also great
[09:39] <lassegs> the problem is that even with a xorg.conf that i think is proper and a fglrx i think is ok installed, a fgl_glxgears that shows 550 fps,  the s3dscreensavers and all 3d acceleration doesnt work
[09:39] <anon32> mighta misspelled that second one
[09:39] <minerale> Hi, how can I take a screnshot from a .mov clip ?
[09:40] <clearzen> no but libdvdcss2 might cause a wave or 2
[09:40] <lassegs> i know about the forums and the wikis but they arent real people :P
[09:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Then your drivers are not installed correctly...
[09:40] <minerale> I tried the screenshot button, but that places a weird color block isstead of the frame from the movie
[09:40] <eod_punk> you could draw a box around it with the super key to get the screen shot
[09:40] <ansic> lassegs are you using nvidia or ati cards ?
[09:40] <anon32> clearzen: but as far as I know, libdvdcss is perfectly legal
[09:40] <ansic> anon32 not in all countries
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> some days i wonder if ANYTHING is legal. :P
[09:40] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, i understood that. thats why i reinstalled them. wanna take a look at my xorg.conf? (in pastebin of course)
[09:40] <anon32> and you didn't answer my question.... what's wrong with mp3 and xvid then?
[09:41] <ansic> anon32 you pick what you want
[09:41] <lassegs> ansic, since im using fglrx i have a ati card
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I dont use ati but I would be happy to see if anything is obvious.
[09:41] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:41] <ansic> personal choice is part of what its all about
[09:41] <eod_punk> don't some distros have that stuff preinstalled?
[09:41] <exs> Hello. is it easy to compile Gaim beta 2.0?
[09:41] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, thx, 1 sec
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> eod_punk,  i know of 1 that has some of the stuff installed.
[09:41] <skirk> ciao tuxtux
[09:41] <graft> hey i'm trying to nfs-mount this directory through a firewall but the simple and obvious isn't working - what do i need to do to get this working?
[09:41] <anon32> mm...
[09:41] <ansic> lassegs be careful with the driver versions the ati drivers (3rd party) provide varying results with various cards
[09:41] <eod_punk> it would be nice if someof that was already working.  it would elliminate alot of hassel
[09:41] <ansic> graft nfs/portmapper
[09:42] <ansic> check your firewall
[09:42] <graft> ansic: well i have no control over the firewall, it's some router
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Which ati card, and I hope not the 200
[09:42] <lassegs> ansic, yeah, but they worked perf. on my last install of ubuntu on the same machine, same version(both ubuntu and the driver
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> graft: Whos' router?
[09:42] <ansic> lassegs same card ?
[09:42] <ansic> graft then your screwed
[09:42] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, I know about the issue, but my card is the Radeon Mobility x700
[09:43] <lassegs> ansic, yes :P
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[09:43] <graft> dang
[09:43] <lassegs> here http://pastebin.ca/160852
[09:44] <skirk> there is Gnome for Back Trace??? www.remote-exploit.org
[09:44] <anon32> !av
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about av - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <ingenium> my sound just stopped working. it's not muted and the volume is up all the way
[09:45] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, i just realized that the opengloverlay was off... trying with that one on... :)
[09:45] <nich0s> ingenium, When did it stop working?
[09:45] <RMorris84> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks! ;)
[09:45] <ingenium> about a week ago
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: That is one ugly xorg, even the res settings only show vesa res..
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: ?
[09:46] <skirk> lol
[09:46] <skirk> :D
[09:46] <RMorris84> for the gksudo natilius
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: Ah.. ok
[09:46] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, its the default aticonfig xorg, with a few modifications...
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: Short term memory loss
[09:46] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, and its only ugly on the outside
[09:46] <RMorris84> wacky tobaky
[09:47] <ingenium> nich0s: it's as though the sound is muted, even though it's not
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: That card will do better res than your xorg shows
[09:47] <eod_punk> later all
[09:47] <ansic> xorg always plays it safe at detection
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: Glad that got it taken care of for you.
[09:47] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow,  i know, and the strange thing is; it actually does :P. Im running 1280x800 as we speak
[09:48] <silian87> sorry, how I tell apt-get to remove ONLY a package and NOT his dependences?
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> RMorris84: You are running a higher res than any shown in your xorg..
[09:48] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, That isnt really that wierd since you are reading the vesa screen and not the aticonfig-screen[0]
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Sorry that was for lass
[09:49] <ubuntu> Q   on the live cd installer where does it mount / for installation?  is it /target like it was last year ?
[09:49] <ubuntu> i'm trying to install on sda.   and from the live cd that is proving to be near impossable......
[09:50] <silian87> bye, thk
[09:50] <yugge> I think i messed my usb up
[09:50] <nownot> i have xgl running but i have two monitors and xgl on two monitors isnt so good right now, so i was wanting to have a xorg.conf for xgl and one for regular session is this possilbe?
[09:50] <anon32> ubuntu: ....nice username
[09:50] <Flannel> nownot: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl will be of more assistance
[09:50] <ubuntu> anon32: it's the live cd.  duh
[09:50] <shadow42> Haha
[09:50] <lassegs> im trying with some new adjustments. be back in a sec. btw, thx for looking in to it, ive been asking this same question for a week and havent got one single response
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Sorry but I dont have an answer, never have messed with ati..
[09:51] <nownot> well i was wondering if you can specify a xorg.conf for each session
[09:51] <yugge> I _think_ i messed it up when i compiled the new version of libusb, anyone know how I can restore everything?
[09:51] <bulio> I hve a home server running. I would like to put all of my music on it, so that it is playable from any machine on my network
[09:51] <bulio>  what would be the best program to do this+
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I may not know the answer but I can at least listen
[09:51] <StoneNote> !best
[09:51] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:52] <bulio> well, a program
[09:52] <kaos|stormchas3r> My volume gui is not coming up anymore.
[09:52] <bulio> I've never done this before
[09:52] <ubuntu> command to close an irssi window ?
[09:52] <morodock> bulio - you just want to have the music shared? like a samba share? or you actually want a web based management program or something?
[09:52] <Flannel> bulio: either set up file sharing networking (samba) and then you basically play the music as if it were on your HD, or set up something like icecast, that'll stream the music, like internet radio
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: Are you just trying to setup a server where users can pull their music and play locally?
[09:53] <Flannel> ubotu: /quit
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <Flannel> er, guess he found it
[09:53] <bulio> Jack_Sparrow: I want to store all the music on the server. Then, have people access the music via the player of their choice
[09:53] <bulio> or a web-based interface
[09:54] <eternalswd> is there a guide somewhere for mounting and unmounting external usb drives?
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: Local net only or over the web as well?
[09:54] <bulio> Local net only
[09:54] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, damn it. with the "OpenGLOverlay" "on" it didnt even manage to run openGL, as it did with that switched to "off"
[09:54] <bulio> but I don't mind either way
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: linux and windows users or just linux
[09:55] <bulio> Jack_Sparrow: windows
[09:55] <yugge> Anyone got any idea with my usb problem??
[09:55] <inam> eternalswd: i just did it two days ago... what problem are you facing ?
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I know you have probably done this before but reinstall the drivers starting from scratch and the drivers linked from our bot, then try others if you need
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > bulio
[09:56] <lassegs> yugge, could you please repeat what was your problem. just joined :)
[09:56] <StoneNote> bulio, I found this and you can get it via apt-get install gnump3d but I've never used it so I can't be of more help http://www.gnu.org/software/gnump3d/
[09:56] <eternalswd> inam, I just need to know how to do it properly
[09:56] <yugge> I _think_ i messed it up when i compiled the new version of libusb, anyone know how I can restore everything?
[09:56] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, i was thinking about doing the same thing... done it before though
[09:56] <bulio> Thanks guys
[09:56] <bulio> so samba would make a network drive
[09:56] <yugge> Now nothing works when I connect it
[09:57] <lassegs> yugge, your computer freezes or the usb doesnt work?
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bulio: yes you would have a setup that windows could read...
[09:57] <inam> eternalswd: just plug it into the USB and see if it works... if you just bought it from a store, it is probably in windows NTFS format and it might mount it as read only.
[09:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: I wish I had a better answer
[09:57] <yugge> lassegs: usb don't work
[09:57] <inam> eternalswd: in which case, re-partition it to a linux partition
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: HE compiled his own usb..
[09:58] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, thanks anyway. its really nice to get some help sometimes
[09:58] <GreenMan> hello
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Yea.. or a shoulder to cry on as the case may be
[09:58] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, yugge , when you say nothing works you dont know
[09:58] <eternalswd> inam, mounting works fine on boot-up automatically.  I want to know how to safely unmount it so I can transfer files to my other computer
[09:58] <MetaMorfoziS> !5.1
[09:58] <GreenMan> can somebody help me?
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <inam> eternalswd: you click to right click on the icon in your desktop and choose eject... it should then be safe to remove the usb cable
[09:59] <MetaMorfoziS> can anybody help me about setting up 5.1 sound in an integrated card?
[09:59] <lassegs> yugge, ok, so have you tried to delete the libusb files and install the one from the repositories?
[09:59] <inam> !rar
[09:59] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:59] <marshall> does anybody know how to apply the save song patch to last-exit?
[09:59] <morodock> !help
[09:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:00] <yugge> lassegs: yes
[10:00] <Nookie> what kind of "GOOD" ftp clients there is out there,.. any siuggestions?
[10:00] <phiber_optic> what is the command to check which groups do I belong to?
[10:00] <lassegs> yugge, hmmm. tricky
[10:00] <yugge> lassegs: usbview find my hosts, but not the things i connect
[10:00] <Flannel> Nookie: there's one built in.  go to places > connect to server
[10:00] <eternalswd> inam, I'd like to know how to do it from the terminal.  Nautilus has been acting up recently.
[10:01] <inam> eternalswd, i think it must be something like umount /dev/sda
[10:01] <lassegs> yugge, im sorry but thats as far as my knowledge about usb extends. Not very much im afraid
[10:01] <inam> eternalswd, it could be sdb or sdc depending on how may drives you have connected...
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> yugge: what was the reason you chose to compile your own?
[10:02] <eternalswd> inam, okay, so it's just like a normal unmount?
[10:02] <morodock> can someone point me in the direction of some good repositories to add to synaptic besides the default?
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !seveas
[10:02] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:02] <caseyomah> How do I chmod a vfat mount point to 4444? I can't "sudo chmod 4444 /mount/point"
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> caseyomah,  you dont chmod a mount point
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> 4444 ?
[10:02] <sobersabre> hi, I have a webcam. how do I use it under ubuntu ?
[10:02] <morodock> thanks jack
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:02] <yugge> Jack_Sparrow: It couldnt indentify my scanner, so the hpoj docs sugested updating libusb
[10:02] <Seveas> caseyomah, mount -o umask 0022
[10:03] <inam> eternalswd, i suppose so... but i use "eject" always... it gives me a progress bar saying that it is writing all cached stuff etc...
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> caseyomah,  reas that url and  how the umask and other options work
[10:03] <sobersabre> [ i have plugged it in and it doesn't work out of the box ]
[10:03] <inam> eternalswd, i wish i knew more to help you :)
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[10:03] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:04] <deedubb> Hello. Can someone please tell me what the command is to change the default editor again?
[10:04] <lassegs> eternalswd, i can help you, its easy
[10:04] <lassegs> eternalswd, easy as pie
[10:04] <yugge> Jack_Sparrow: I might already then, have had a problem. I know my psx usb adapter stopped working late last night, but i didn't do anything special, so I just thought that Id had to reboot the machine.
[10:04] <root_> hello?
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> 884 people say hello back
[10:05] <eternalswd> lassegs, please describe
[10:05] <skirk> hello root_
[10:05] <skirk> :D
[10:05] <lassegs> eternalswd, you just type 'sudo umount /dev/yourusbdevice' in the terminal
[10:05] <x_O> I am in an IRC based chat client, lol. My XORG is busted and I can't log back in... :(
[10:05] <x_O> But I managed to install Bitchx, and Lynx, lol.
[10:05] <deedubb> Come on peepz, don't make me repeat and get in trouble for it
[10:05] <deedubb> I know you know!
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> deedubb,  ya mean the update-alternatives thing?
[10:06] <deedubb> thats it? I'll try
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> deedubb: system/prefernces/prefered
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> with some options. :P
[10:06] <eternalswd> lassegs, okay, so I don't need to do anything special, just a normal unmount?  Will it automount when I plug it back in?
[10:06] <manstoke> why does the installer list Macromedia Flash but then fail to install?
[10:06] <lassegs> eternalswd, i would guess so, yes. but no harm in trying, if it doesnt we'll just fix your fstab so it does
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> manstoke: HAve you changed any repos?
[10:07] <deedubb> thank you, I got it, update-alternatives --config editor
[10:07] <foomonkey> If I want to download the source code to a GNOME app, say GEdit, can I use Synaptic to get it?
[10:07] <foomonkey> Or do I need to use apt-get?
[10:08] <foomonkey> Or do I do it some other way?
[10:08] <skirk> try   whois microsoft.com       :)
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !gedit
[10:08] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[10:08] <Glench> vim owns all^
[10:08] <eternalswd> lassegs, thanks for the help
[10:08] <backlit> leafpad rocks
[10:08] <lassegs> eternalswd, my pleasure
[10:08] <skirk> nano owns all :D
[10:08] <foomonkey> was that !gedit suppose to help me?
[10:09] <lassegs> foomonkey, yeah i was thinking the same thing
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> foomonkey: Wasnt sure, thought I would check
[10:09] <Homer> is a port scan suppose to take long?
[10:09] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, so you decided to flood the channel :D
[10:09] <foomonkey> OK... I know how to use Synaptic pretty well to get binaries... but source?
[10:09] <lassegs> Homer, yes
[10:10] <clearzen> Homer:  It depends on the option you selected and the system
[10:10] <lassegs> Homer, define long
[10:10] <Homer> like 10 mins
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Of course.. it is what I do.. :D
[10:10] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, of course you know about the !info > Jack_Sparrow , right?
[10:10] <clearzen> Homer: Are you using nmap?
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs
[10:11] <lassegs> Jack_Sparrow, just checking
[10:11] <Homer> no the built in ubuntu network tools thingamajig
[10:11] <foomonkey> If I' look at my repositories, I see "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Source)" selected. Does that mean actual source .debs?
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> lassegs: Sometimes it is as much for my own ifno
[10:11] <graeme> could someone suggest a way to install on the following setup: main hd is SATA with windows, then primary ide hd is 80gb formatted ntfs used for storing video and then 2ndary ide hd is empty 30gb upon which i would like to install ubuntu
[10:11] <yugge> lassegs: what controlls the usb in ubuntu, just libusb or is there something else too?
[10:11] <clearzen> Homer: I don't know about that one. I don't use it
[10:11] <clearzen> Homer: sorry
[10:11] <lassegs> yugge, hotplug?
[10:11] <graeme> doesn't look like ubuntu desktop install cd is finding windows install and thus grub is notworking
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: yes
[10:12] <caseyomah> Okay, I want to mount /dev/hdb1 /media/120gig -t vfat (what other options for full access to all?)
[10:12] <yugge> lassegs: hm, maybe I'll try reinstalling that
[10:12] <lassegs> graeme, you can easilly fix grub menu.lst manually
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: -o umask=000
[10:12] <lassegs> yugge, you go girl!
[10:12] <skirk>
[10:12] <foomonkey> If I search for gedit in Synaptic, I found gedit-dev... would that be the soruce package?
[10:12] <yugge> lassegs: haha, I'm a man
[10:12] <yugge> ;p
[10:13] <graeme> i would appreciaite it if you'd teach me how
[10:13] <lassegs> yugge, its not important.
[10:13] <clearzen> caseyomah: I think this to be set to gid=000 as well
[10:13] <lassegs> yugge, just go
[10:13] <yugge> ;p
[10:13] <graeme> it appears as though grub has been installed on the 80gb storage drive
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: no, that's the development libraries in case you are building something that integrates gedit.
[10:13] <graeme> but it is not the boot frive for the sysytem
[10:13] !lilo:*! Hi all. Restarting services in just a moment.
[10:14] <NotClever> Hello all, I installed compiz on my laptop aswell as some gnome manager thingy.  I clicked on "GL Window" and now I have just a white screen when logging into gnome - eek!  Is there a way to uninstall compiz from a terminal ?
[10:14] <foomonkey> fyrestrt: so where's the source?
[10:14] <caseyomah> Rights are still read only besides owner...
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: on the web? What do you want with the source?
[10:14] <mooky_> does ubuntu 6.0.6 grub have the splash image patch applied ?
[10:14] <lassegs> graeme, please put my name in front of your posts so i dont overlook them
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> NotClever: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:14] <overridden> sudo apt-get remove compiz
[10:14] <clearzen>  caseyomah:sorry I didn't mean to address that to you
[10:14] <NotClever> ty fyrestrtr
[10:15] <foomonkey> I am wanting to get involved in working on some open source code. I thought gedit my be a lince little learning exercise.
[10:15] <clearzen>  caseyomah: if you want to port scan the built-in software is not the best in my opinion
[10:15] <graeme> lassegs, will do
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: you can download its source from the web, or check it out directly from their cvs.
[10:15] <skirk> anyone have quake 4 for Linux???
[10:15] <lassegs> graeme, ok. you probably want your grub to be on the hda1 disk
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> foomonkey:  Does this look like it would help ?  http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gedit.html
[10:16] <_4hodmt> Anyone know of a good system for managing removable media backups?
[10:16] <foomonkey> fyrestrtr: so getting source from apt or Synaptic isn't really how you would go about it?
[10:16] <skirk> anyone have quake 4 for Linux?
[10:16] <mooky_> skirk you have to buy it
[10:16] <_4hodmt> Ideally I want software to split files over multiple discs raid5 style so no dataloss on single media failure, plus index everything so I can retrieve files easily
[10:16] <skirk> no
[10:16] <skirk> i download it :/
[10:16] <foomonkey> Jack_Sparrow: I'll check it out... thanks
[10:16] <mooky_> I didn't think it was free ?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> foomonkey: no, I'd fetch it via anonymous cvs. Instructions are here > http://www.gnome.org/projects/gedit/developers.html
[10:16] <graeme> lassegs, would that be my SATA with windows?
[10:17] <mooky_> _4hodmt make a raid 5 array
[10:17] <ompaul> skirk, we don't talk about warez here, or for that matter other questionable activites, thanks
[10:17] <foomonkey> fyresrtr: thanks... that's the info I was looking for.
[10:17] <manstoke> i'm using universe & multiverse
[10:17] <Red-Sox> How do you save in nano?
[10:17] <lassegs> graeme, but i didnt quite understand, dosnt your grub recognize the windows partition or are you suspecting it is installing itself on the wrong partition?
[10:17] <clearzen> Red-Sox: press ctrl+x
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> Red-Sox: ctrl+o
[10:17] <ompaul> Red-Sox, bottom right hand corner of the menu Ctrl + X and then a Y
[10:17] <clearzen> Red-Sox:then y and enter
[10:17] <LoneWolf071> How can I tell what graphics driver i'm using, or need to, it's set in the config file to x11drv, but everytime I run cedega it says it can't find it
[10:17] <Red-Sox> Okay
[10:17] <mooky_> LoneWolf071 look at your xorg.conf file
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> he asked how to save, not how to exit :P
[10:18] <dejx> how's that sound on my laptop works only in gnome, if i want play some.mp3
[10:18] <dejx> //dev/dsp busy
[10:18] <mar_cus> hello guys I need some help with apt. someone got a moment?
[10:18] <Red-Sox> BRB restarting X
[10:18] <lassegs> clearzen is a sneaky devil
[10:18] <mooky_> mar whas the problem
[10:18] <overridden> sure mar_cus
[10:18] <_4hodmt> mooky_: How would I set it up? The idea is to have stacks of hundreds of DVDRs usable but not risking data loss
[10:18] <Red-Sox> wait a second
[10:18] <clearzen> lol
[10:18] <Red-Sox> how come ctrl alt backsbace isnt' working?
[10:18] <mooky_> _4hodmt mdadm or raidtools
[10:19] <_4hodmt> mooky_: I'll research those, thanks
[10:19] <dejx> and some days ago sound worked just fine
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Red-Sox: are you running xgl?
[10:19] <dejx> any suggestions?
[10:19] <mooky_> welcome
[10:19] <Red-Sox> I'm in the failsafe terminal fyrestrtr
[10:19] <mar_cus> the thing is, I've been trying to get xgl+compiz to work, but I can't load compiz because I got an old ligl1-mesa package
[10:19] <leo^> how can i update my dapper to edgy eft knot2, do i need to download the .iso and install from it. or can i use synaptic? maybe a dumb question but i really dont know
[10:19] <lassegs> then you have to open X to reboot X
[10:19] <graeme> lassegs, the installer is not finding the windows install, i suspect because it is SATA, so its installing grub on the wrong drive
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> Red-Sox: then ctrl+alt+backspace isn't working because it only works from within X. You probably want /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:19] <mooky_> leo^ apt-get update
[10:19] <mooky_> leo^ apt-get upgrade
[10:20] <mar_cus> I've added the right sources but ut seemes like it doesn't find the packages newer version
[10:20] <Red-Sox> tyvm fyrestrtr
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> mar_cus: xgl questions belong in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:20] <mar_cus> let me show you:
[10:20] <skirk> ompaul , see this link and join :)    http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=986
[10:20] <mar_cus> ## Added for XGL and Compiz
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ dapper main
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main
[10:20] <mar_cus> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[10:20] <mooky_> skirk do you want to chat about ubuntu at all ?
[10:20] <mooky_> mar_cus he just said - not in here
[10:20] <mar_cus> these are the sources  added
[10:20] <caseyomah> I keep getting a rights structure of drwxr-xr-x
[10:20] <mooky_> he told you where to look for help
[10:20] <leo^> mooky_: it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> mar_cus: xgl question are asked in #ubuntu-xgl -- also, don't paste in here.
[10:21] <ompaul> mar_cus, please don't paste
[10:21] <Flannel> mar_cus: #ubuntu-xgl for xgl support please
[10:21] <mooky_> leo^ is dpkg setup correctly
[10:21] <lassegs> graeme, i was talking bull when i told you that you wanted your grub on the hda1 partition. thats not true at all, as long as your grub recognizes the /boot/ folder(partiotion if you have made it as a partition) it is all ok
[10:21] <skirk> yes mooky_ ...
[10:21] <dejx> hm
[10:21] <mar_cus> this isn't really and xgl problem
[10:21] <dejx> asfasfadsfa am i ignored on this channel?
[10:21] <lassegs> graeme, because then we can manually add windows to the menu.lst later
[10:21] <deedubb> dejx: nope
[10:21] <mooky_> skirk then stop going on about random topics, this channel is buys enough
[10:21] <mooky_> dejx no
[10:21] <dejx> ok
[10:21] <mooky_> but you are getting annoying by not waiting for a response
[10:22] <dejx> cuz i tho... my client is messed..
[10:22] <mar_cus> sry, I have to paste again: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:22] <mar_cus>   compiz-vanilla: Depends: libgl1-mesa (>= 6.5.1-0ubuntu5) but 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[10:22] <mar_cus> E: Broken packages
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> mooky_: you need to run sudo apt-get update -- then go to #ubuntu-xgl and ask your question from there.
[10:22] <mooky_> can someone kick mar_cus
[10:22] <skirk> ok mooky_
[10:22] <mooky_> he's not listening
[10:22] <skirk> sorry
[10:22] <mar_cus> I'll go
[10:22] <mooky_> frying_fish what ?
[10:22] <mar_cus> sry
[10:22] <mooky_> I don't want to use xgl
[10:22] <lassegs> mar_cus, use the god damn pastebin
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> mooky_: sorry, nick complete got you :)
[10:22] <mooky_> ahh no problem
[10:22] <lassegs> !pastebin > mar_cus
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > mar_cus
[10:23] <lassegs> !pastebin > lassegs
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot > lassegs
[10:23] <mooky_> just kick him - he knew he wasn't supposed to keep posting and just carried on "sorry I decided to post again"
[10:23] <mooky_> this channel is busy enough without idiots
[10:23] <graeme> lassegs, grub isn't loading at all when i boot, i only found it not working (error 17) when i switched my boot drive in bios to my primary ata, not my SATA drive
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> mooky_: relax.
[10:23] <graeme> lassegs, it could be that my SATA is run trhough a raid controller on my mobo
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> graeme: you need to install grub on the mbr on the boot disk (which, in your case, is the sata drive)
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> graeme: are you mixing ide and sata drives?
[10:24] <varsendaggr> hey does anyone know a way to convert a nrg   ( nero image )   to .iso
[10:24] <caseyomah> I can't get my (empty) vfat partition (/dev/dhb1) to mount to mount point (/media/120gig) in all user R/W mode. it keeps setting it to owner R/W and user R.
[10:24] <mooky_> varsendaggr I think nero is propritary only
[10:24] <varsendaggr> danm
[10:25] <mooky_> I /think/
[10:25] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, There's a package for it.
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> varsendaggr: have you tried mounting it?
[10:25] <deedubb> Java question: I've installed automatrix, installed the JDK, and have javac (not in the PATH variable); I then tried to run update-alternatives --config javac, and its not finding it; does javac need to be in the path or should I tell update-alternatives where javac is somehow
[10:25] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, I saw it earlier.
[10:25] <mooky_> caseyomah that would be handy to know about
[10:25] <mooky_> I'm interested
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> deedubb: automaix questions are in #automatix
[10:25] <graeme> not sure what you mean by mixing Sparrow, my boot disk is windows NTFS and SATA, i ahve two other disks on my ide channels, one for windows storage and the other upon which i would like to install ubuntu
[10:25] <Qwell> So, who decided that ubuquity was too good for 640x480 res? ;)
[10:26] <deedubb> fyrestrtr: automatrix is empty
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> deedubb: automatix, not automatrix
[10:26] <Homer> what is the commandline to shutdown linux
[10:26] <Qwell> this really sucks..  I can't get X to start at anything but 640x480@60hz
[10:26] <gepatino> hi... is there any clean/recommended way to install gtk 2.10 in dapper?
[10:26] <Rafa_brz> hi folks!
[10:26] <Homer> echo -n "shutdown" > /sys/power/state <-- doesn't work
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> Homer: sudo shutdown -h now
[10:26] <Homer> k
[10:26] <backlit> Qwell: try Driver "vesa" to get going again
[10:27] <mooky> gepatino apt ?
[10:27] <Qwell> backlit: where?
[10:27] <dejx> blaaaah..
[10:27] <Rafa_brz> I bought a new printer... and I gave a headache!
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> Rafa_brz: you gave the printer a headache? :)
[10:27] <inam> !mp3
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <Qwell> backlit: This is the install CD..
[10:27] <gepatino> mooky: shure, but what repository should i use?
[10:27] <backlit> Qwell: in xorg.conf, under the Device subsection
[10:27] <lassegs> graeme, I really know nothing of disks and hardware, so i wouldnt know anything about that
[10:27] <lassegs> graeme, but ill help you troubleshoot your problem
[10:27] <lassegs> graeme, is grub loading and then stops at error 17 ?
[10:27] <Rafa_brz> fyrestrtr: :(
[10:27] <mooky> gepatino the correct one for your version
[10:27] <backlit> Qwell: d'oh that kinda sucks, what video card do you have?
[10:27] <Phoul> !ntfs-3g
[10:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[10:28] <Qwell> backlit: should be an i830, I believe
[10:28] <canute> Hi guys, what is the fstab version of "sudo lufsmount<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/mnt/slackware --dmask=777 --fmask=777"
[10:28] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, package named nrg2iso
[10:28] <graeme> lassegs, grub isn't loading unless i change boot drives in bios, and then gives me error 17
[10:28] <Rafa_brz> I bought a printer called Samsung ml-1610
[10:28] <Rafa_brz> but it doesn't work with ubuntu...
[10:28] <gepatino> mooky: in dapper repositories i've only found gtk version 2.8.x. Is there any other repository to add?
[10:28] <backlit> Qwell: just a hunch, try changing the driver to "i810", and then try "sudo /etc/init.d/restart gdm" at the command line and see if that helps
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> canute: you don't want to put that in fstab.
[10:28] <mooky> is there a problem with 2.8 /
[10:28] <Qwell> backlit: it detects the driver as i810
[10:28] <leo^> where can i find the egdy eft repositories ?
[10:29] <canute> hm, how can I make it automaticly be mounted then?
[10:29] <varsendaggr> caseyomah, wow    thanks
[10:29] <backlit> Qwell: may leave you off worse than before, but worst case you will have to reboot
[10:29] <caseyomah> varsendaggr, No problem.
[10:29] <Qwell> It's a 82845G/GL
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> canute: well, let me rephrase -- you can put it, but don't make it so it automatically mounts.
[10:29] <lassegs> graeme, that sounds about right. Ok. Do you have accsess to a linux live cd?
[10:29] <backlit> Qwell: then try "vesa" instead and see if restarting gdm helps
[10:29] <gepatino> mooky: i need support for touchscreen mode in a special app, and it's solved in gtk 2.10, but not in 2.8
[10:29] <canute> fyrestrtr: I see
[10:29] <jwl007> is there a wireless expert around? :D
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> canute: the reason you can't do that, is because for that to work, your network card must be enabled *before* fstab is read, and that's not going to happen :)
[10:29] <graeme> yup
[10:29] <mooky> look at dev branches
[10:30] <leo^> where can i find the egdy eft repositories ?
[10:30] <canute> fyrestrtr: aha, of course... So do you suggest anyway I can do it?
[10:30] <Rafa_brz> Is there anyone here that have a Samsung printer?
[10:30] <graeme> lassegs, i do, this is how I've been trying to install it
[10:30] <Qwell> backlit: restarting gdm failed :p
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> leo^: #ubuntu+1 has the answer to your edgy questions.
[10:30] <eod_punk> experts maybe but ask anyways
[10:30] <Qwell> it "stopped", but X is still running
[10:30] <lassegs> graeme, then you should boot with it, then fix the mbr from there.
[10:30] <gepatino> mooky: should I get the souce packages and compile or is there any backports repository?
[10:30] <mooky> look at development branches
[10:30] <lassegs> graeme, do you know how to use grub from the commandline?
[10:30] <backlit> Qwell: make sure you have commented out any i810-specific options in the device section
[10:30] <mooky> rather than backports
[10:30] <jwl007> i can't install my (supposedly) prism2 based pcmcia wireless card...  tried ndiswrapper, orinoco, and linux-wlan-ng
[10:31] <Qwell> ctrl-alt-backspace did the trick
[10:31] <graeme> lassegs, nope! but how hard can it be?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> canute: well, you can add it in there, with the option of not auto-mounting it, then its just as simply as typing mount /mnt/slackware and it read fstab and mount the device with your parameters. You can add that command to a script that you launch after all services have started.
[10:31] <Qwell> So, why do new versions of X hate this card?
[10:31] <Qwell> rather, when using i810
[10:31] <mooky> Qwell which card was it sorry
[10:31] <caseyomah> Okay this should be simple, but I'm banging my head into a wall, what is the command to install a vfat partition (%d) into a mount point (%m) with all users having write-enabled access?
[10:31] <Qwell> 82845G/GL
[10:31] <inam> !mp3 > inam
[10:32] <eod_punk> I had to try several different drivers to get mine working with ndiswrapper.  the one that worked in wondows wouldn't work so look around and find defferent ones and give them a try
[10:32] <backlit> Qwell: i dunno, but my HTPC uses an i915, so hopefully i'll have some useful tips when i start converting it to Ubuntu
[10:32] <lassegs> graeme, it really isnt that hard, the only thing you have to remember is that grub doesnt speak quite the same language as linux. hda1 in linux, is hd0,0 in grub
[10:32] <jwl007> eod_punk, where is there a good place to look for diff drivers?
[10:32] <backlit> i went through a parhelia and a crappy off-brand gf6200 before i finally settled on my trusty old geforce2
[10:32] <gepatino> mooky: with dev branches you mean edgy? in that case, should i add a line in sources.list a line to edgy-main or something like that?
[10:32] <canute> fyrestrtr: I see. How would the fstab line then look like?
[10:33] <lassegs> graeme, just boot the livecd and type 'sudo grub' to get you started
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: sudo mount -t vfat %d -o users,rw,umask=000 %m
[10:33] <mooky> gepatino yeah
[10:33] <stefg> lassegs: once you have a grub prompt it's 'find /boot/grub/stage1', then 'root (hdX)' (i.e. where grub found its stage1), finally 'setup (hdX)
[10:33] <caseyomah> Thank you.
[10:33] <eod_punk> i'm on a laptop so i looked at different laptop linux tuttorials.  try searching for the wireless chipset
[10:33] <lassegs> graeme, then use man grub
[10:33] <graeme> lassegs, right, thats a bit silly.  do you have any handy resourcesthat will go through this more detail?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> canute: like any other :) /device /mount/point filesystem options (but you would add noauto to the options)
[10:34] <gepatino> mooky: but it's not necesary to update the entire system, isn't it? i only need gtk 2.10, not an edgy sys
[10:34] <lassegs> graeme, or listen to stefg... he sounds competent
[10:34] <mooky> depends on dependencies
[10:34] <stefg> :-)... hope that I am in fact :-)
[10:35] <lassegs> graeme, stefg just said what you should do. he sounds smart, listen to him
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> gepatino: in the worst case scenario, you can compile it by hand, but really -- you should avoid this if at all possible :)
[10:35] <jwl007> eod_punk, where do i find the wireless chipset besides google?  I've seen a few conflicting ideas for what chipset my pcmcia card uses
[10:35] <eod_punk> jjwl like i said i couldn't use the one that worked in windows but I believe I found one that did work by look at different drivers for the same chipset
[10:35] <A[D] minS> !xgl
[10:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:35] <eod_punk> I googled for mine
[10:35] <prophet> hey fellas, i try to mout a dvd with some AVI files and this is what i get'mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:35] <prophet> "
[10:35] <graeme> lassegs or stefg, if i then get grub on my sata boot hd, which has windows isntalled. will it muck it up?
[10:35] <tuxedup> I intend to buy a acer laptop, however the laptop I am interested in uses function keys to control the sound volume.  Will this cause any particular heartache on my part in getting them to work?
[10:35] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, I'm still getting r-x access for group oother all and rwx for user
[10:36] <mooky> prophet and ?
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> prophet: ntfs should be read only
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> prophet: that's normal, you can't write to dvds (unless they are blank and you have a dvd writer)
[10:36] <eod_punk> try googleing for your system and linux  might find a tutorial for your system, like i found for mine but for a different distro
[10:36] <mooky> its a dvd - of course its going to be read only
[10:36] <prophet> im not trying to write im trying to view the content of a dvd with AVI files on it
[10:36] <eod_punk> tuxedup, mine work just fine
[10:36] <mooky> yes
[10:36] <lassegs> graeme, no no, dont try to install grub to the SATA NTFS drive, fix the MBR on that disk, stefg told you how to do it
[10:36] <mooky> and ?
[10:36] <mooky> it looks like your dvd has mounted fine
[10:37] <graeme> lassegs gotcha
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I feel dumb today
[10:37] <tuxedup> eod_punk: does it work out of the box? what key combination do you have to use to raise and lower the volume?
[10:37] <mooky> Jack_Sparrow nonsensw
[10:37] <prophet> how do i find the files on it
[10:37] <mooky> prophet cd into the directory ?
[10:37] <stefg> Grub only works in _M_ BR (Master means first harddisk seen by the bios)
[10:37] <caseyomah> prophet, That is an informative message, letting you know you can't write to it, the mount succeded properly.
[10:37] <eod_punk> tuxedup, same as in windows fn+f5 for up
[10:37] <Qwell> ubuntu doesn't force installation of grub, does it?
[10:37] <lassegs> graeme, the MBR is the file on your first disk that tells your computer where to find the boot loader (grub in your case). You have to fix it
[10:37] <Jack_Sparrow> mooky: I agree...
[10:37] <prophet> ok
[10:37] <Qwell> because that would be a real shame
[10:37] <mooky> Jack_Sparrow my typing is terrible, I was tyring to say "nonsense"
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: its vfat?
[10:38] <mooky> as in your being dumb
[10:38] <mooky> today
[10:38] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Yes.
[10:38] <prophet> how the i access the cd now
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
[10:38] <mooky> prophet look in the wiki
[10:38] <mooky> this is basic linux usability
[10:38] <Jack_Sparrow> mooky: Up all night with 14 week old puppy... sorry all
[10:38] <nownot> ok i asked in ubuntu-xgl and xgl and no one seems to know what is happening, heres what is going on, ok this is the situation im in,  have xgl workign just not w/ dual monitors, i have dual monitors working jsut not w/ xgl, when i try to boot xgl w/ the current xorg.conf file i get 10 sec timout and no screen found
[10:38] <eod_punk> tuxedup, didn't have a single problems with them, they just worked as they should
[10:38] <mooky> there are basic linux tutorials
[10:38] <eod_punk> lots of them mooky
[10:38] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Freshly formatted vfat (fat32) via Patitioning tool.
[10:38] <mooky> eod_punk I know
[10:39] <eod_punk> you cna even get linux for dummies at your libray
[10:39] <mooky> hence why I'm recommending prophet take a look at them
[10:39] <lassegs> stefg, but im a bit concerned because he managed to load grub but got the error 17 (dont understand filessystem).  I didnt understand that
[10:39] <tuxedup> eod_punk: assuming they did not work, I could use alsa mixer to raise and lower the sound correct?
[10:39] <eod_punk> i was getting error 22 on grub whenever i have a usb thumbdrive or hard drive hooked up to it
[10:40] <lassegs> eod_punk, it isnt quite the case here :P
[10:40] <stefg> lassegs, graeme let me look up what error 17 is about...
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: -o umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=000,rw
[10:40] <graeme> lassegs and all, thanks for the help
[10:40] <eod_punk> tuxedup, no idea,  i wouldn't think you would have a problem wiht it.  try looking around and see if you can find someone using the name brand laptop and see if they had problems
[10:40] <lassegs> graeme, wait
[10:40] <eod_punk> lassegs, ok
[10:40] <graeme> , oop, saw that
[10:41] <dermoth> Hi there, quick question: I need to recompile the kernel that wi ll match my hardware. Is it save to bypass the initrs scripts and boot directly init (No initrd al all)? Is there anything critical set-up during the initrd stage?)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> nownot: first, xgl is beta software -- so don't expect it to work perfectly.  Second, have you already checked compiz.net forums?
[10:41] <eod_punk> tuxedup, there are a couple wikki's about laptops and if they work in linux and what in them doesn't work out of the box
[10:41] <lassegs> graeme, tell stefg what happened when you changed the boot priority or whatever....
[10:41] <stefg> lassegs, graeme grub obviously points to the wrong partition.
[10:41] <dermoth> is it saFe...
[10:41] <mooky> dermoth if you have to ask that
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> dermoth: match your hardware how?
[10:41] <mooky> you shouldn't be doing it
[10:41] <lassegs> stefg, then he has two errors...
[10:41] <nownot> fyrestrtr: no i havent, will check now
[10:42] <canute> fyrestrtr:  does this look correct; none /mnt/slackware lufs fs=ftpfs,fmask=777,dmask=777,noauto,rw,user,exec,nosuid,host=host.net,username=user,password=pass 0 0
[10:42] <lassegs> !pastebin > canute
[10:42] <dermoth> I used to do it on others distro but ubuntu seems to have a fairly complex boot stage
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> canute: no, you need to put something in none
[10:42] <eod_punk> tuxtux, i used this one because its an older version of mine http://www.linuxsolutions.co.nz/sager9860wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[10:42] <mooky> why do you want to boot different ?
[10:42] <graeme> well, i like a good challenge
[10:42] <mooky> whats wrong with allowing init to run /
[10:42] <tuxedup> eod_punk: yeh I have looked at the linux-laptops.net site but the laptops I am after are not listed, Iam assuming though that there are some with a similar model number that the story should be the same and given acer latops seem to be quite compatable with linux from what I have read
[10:43] <canute> fyrestrtr: such as? I have no idea what the device is, the network card?
[10:43] <dermoth> mooky: were yo answering to me>?
[10:43] <stefg> i could help more if i'd have a 'sudo fdisk -l' output and the /boot/grub/menu.lst of the drive in question on pastebin
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> what is your mount line?
[10:43] <gepatino> mooky, fyrestrtr: i'll see what can i do with gtk 2.10
[10:43] <hypl> hello
[10:43] <mooky> dermoth yes
[10:43] <gepatino> mooky, fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:43] <eod_punk> look at notebookforums.com they have a deccent linux/laptop discusion area
[10:43] <hypl> whats a good app for playing dvd's on ubuntu
[10:43] <canute> sudo lufsmount<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/mnt/slackware --dmask=777 --fmask=777
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> hypl: totem, vlc, mplayer.
[10:43] <mooky> xine ?
[10:43] <hypl> thanks
[10:43] <mooky> I still like xine
[10:44] <lassegs> im sorry graeme, i have a problem understanding the extent of your problems. can you describe it once more so we can get you all fixed up? :)
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> canute: hrmm, hold on a sec.
[10:44] <graeme> stefg, i could get that, might take me a few minutes, need to boot live cd etc
[10:44] <Cooler> Hi all, I browsed the ubuntu website, i found what is server & desktop release but i'm unable to find out what is the "alternate" version you can download from mirror sites ?
[10:44] <stefg> graeme: fine for me, just ping me when you're ready
[10:44] <mooky> the alternate is a text install
[10:44] <mooky> without a gui
[10:44] <Cooler> thx mooky :)
[10:45] <mooky> ;)
[10:45] <graeme> lassegs, thanks, i'll try this grom stefg and will be back to let you know how it goes.
[10:45] <dermoth> mooky:  Well it's much less trouble to just build a kernel, no initrd. So I was wondering is there's anything critical set-up during the initrd stage or I can go directly to init.
[10:45] <j00bar> howdy -- i have an hfsplus partition mounted with -o rw, and /etc/mtab confirms that it's mounted r/w -- however when i try to write to it, i'm told the filesystem is readonly -- am i insane to think that linux has hfsplus write-suppotr?
[10:45] <mooky> depends if you want to preload anything
[10:45] <dermoth> no
[10:45] <dermoth> nothing
[10:45] <mooky> eggzeck: disk driver for raid setup,
[10:45] <dermoth> just plain install
[10:45] <lassegs> graeme, ok, but i think you might only be fixing one of two problems...
[10:45] <mooky> the bootsplash uses initrd
[10:45] <mooky> do you want the bootsplash ?
[10:46] <dermoth> I don't cate splasl or no :)
[10:46] <mooky> so drop initrd
[10:46] <eod_punk> tuxedup, all my fn+buttons work with no problems
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> canute: hrmm, looks like you need to use automount for lufs
[10:46] <mooky> just keep in mind if anything needs pre-loading
[10:46] <dermoth> ok
[10:46] <tahorg> hi, I've configured a cupsys with a shared printer on my laptop
[10:46] <mooky> you're screwed if it does
[10:46] <tahorg> I can print with lp
[10:46] <mooky> ;)
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> canute: amazing, what you can find in the manual :)
[10:46] <dermoth> thx mooky
[10:46] <canute> hehe
[10:46] <tahorg> but openoffice just barks at me "no default printer found"
[10:47] <miketech> Hey
[10:47] <tahorg> while in the cups interface it's defined "default printer"
[10:47] <tahorg> (dapper)
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: your user might not have write permissions.
[10:47] <miketech> can anybody tell me the difference between vim-gtk and vim-gnome?
[10:47] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, I'm still getting a permission block of drwxr-xr-x.
[10:47] <tahorg> any know problem ?
[10:47] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: this is using sudo
[10:47] <tahorg> +n
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: no clue on yours to be honest. Might a vfat specific thing.
[10:47] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: so it shouldn't matter my permissions
[10:47] <Cooler> last question unsure from what i found at google/ubuntu, do you know if 6.6 (server) install support NTFS resizing of an existing windows partition before installing ?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: mount shows it as rw?
[10:48] <mooky> Cooler don't think so
[10:48] <tahorg> openoffice just sucks bears with a straw.
[10:48] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Do you have any better way to mount a M$/linux accessable (writable) partition?
[10:48] <GianLuigiBuffon> hi guys
[10:48] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: yes -- mounted with option (rw)
[10:48] <Teka> Could somenoe send me to a site/link containing screenshots of Ubuntu in use? I really want to see what its like befor i try it
[10:48] <mooky> Teka main site
[10:48] <mooky> ubuntu.com
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: what is the owner/group of the files?
[10:48] <GianLuigiBuffon> How is possible that a pendrive that works in windows ubuntu of one pc. doesn't do it in this one???
[10:48] <Teka> Ive looked there
[10:48] <Teka> Found no screenshots
[10:48] <Cooler> k thx for your answer i'm off resizing (partion magic) & installing :)
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> !screenshots
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenshots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Teka> !screenshots
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenshots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <hypl> when i try to play this dvd on totem it says i dont have the correct plugins
[10:49] <mooky> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop?action=show&redirect=Screenshots
[10:49] <mooky> lazy
[10:49] <hypl> idk what to do
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> Teka: here is what mine looks like http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png
[10:49] <eod_punk> GianLuigiBuffon, what?
[10:49] <hypl> where to get em
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> !dvd > hypl
[10:49] <hypl> thankyou
[10:49] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk I connect a 2gb pen drive and is not working... (but I connect it in other pc with ubuntu too and does)
[10:49] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: i'm trying to mount and hfsplus partition as my home tree -- i've mounted it at /home rw -- and i'm trying to make my user's directory -- so i'm running "sudo mkdir j00bar" and it returns "mkdir: cannot create directory 'j00bar': read only filesystem"
[10:49] <mooky> fyrestrtr nice icons
[10:49] <eod_punk> mine work wiht no problem
[10:50] <mooky> j00bar you mounted it read only
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> j00bar: errm, I suggest you mount it somewhere else.
[10:50] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk can maybe be by usb 1.0, coz this computer is more old
[10:50] <j00bar> mooky: mount and /etc/mtab both say rw
[10:50] <stefg> Teka: screenies mean nothing... because the UI and the working system aren't monolithic in Linux... get a Live CD of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and/or Xubuntu and start playing, that's what they are meant for
[10:50] <j00bar> mooky: and i explicitly -o rw'ed the mount
[10:50] <eod_punk> usb 2 should just drop down to 1.1 speeds
[10:50] <mooky> fyrestrtr that doesn't look like gnome
[10:50] <j00bar> fyrestrtr: why do you suggest i mount it elsewhere?
[10:50] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Might my mtab be overriding my command line?
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> mooky: but it is :)
[10:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> it does... but maybe not on linux
[10:51] <mooky> fyrestrtr ooh I believe you
[10:51] <GianLuigiBuffon> coz I'm my other pc with linux it works
[10:51] <eod_punk> maybe but i doubt it
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> caseyomah: no, nothing like that.
[10:51] <eod_punk> GianLuigiBuffon, do you have any other thumb drives to try?
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> mooky: this is my ubuntu laptop > http://www.meidomus.com/images/laptop.png
[10:52] <pablo89> hi!!! there's somebody here???
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk yeah, gonna try other pendrive
[10:52] <eod_punk> k
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> it works
[10:52] <mooky> pablo89 no - all the chats bots
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> :O
[10:52] <mooky> what do you think ?
[10:52] <GianLuigiBuffon> and the other started to work now
[10:52] <pablo89> haha, yeah
[10:52] <mooky> fyrestrtr I like your themes
[10:52] <eod_punk> interesting fyrestrtr
[10:53] <mooky> whats the playstation icon ?
[10:53] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, I was mounting into /media that has a rights structure of drwxr-xr-x and the mount point couldn't be less restrictive.
[10:53] <GianLuigiBuffon> lol really curious
[10:53] <caseyomah> fyrestrtr, Short: Problem solved.
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> oh lol
[10:53] <eod_punk> GianLuigiBuffon, what?
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> mooky: that's my desktop :)
[10:53] <eod_punk> the other one works?
[10:53] <pablo89> can somebody tell me what means "lol"???
[10:54] <eod_punk> laugh out loud
[10:54] <mooky> fyrestrtr ahhh the name of the box is playstation
[10:54] <powder> hahahaha
[10:54] <GianLuigiBuffon> eod_punk I connected other USB Key and started to work, and then the first one did too lol
[10:54] <pablo89> thanks
[10:54] <mooky> jesus - this channel is border line spam
[10:54] <eod_punk> that is odd
[10:54] <mooky> its flushing out the real good conversation
[10:54] <GianLuigiBuffon> what means odd
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> mooky: desktop is playstation, laptop is mini-me. The icon you see is the icon for a remote scp folder on playstation.
[10:54] <mooky> got you
[10:55] <Qwell> ...it installed grub without asking
[10:55] <Qwell> that's rediculous
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Qwell,  like 90% of all disrtos do eh?
[10:56] <Qwell> without asking?  no
[10:56] <eod_punk> whtas the problem with that?
[10:56] <cry0gen> Qwell: yeah..
[10:56] <cry0gen> Qwell: a ton do it now
[10:56] <Qwell> one should ALWAYS ask to install a bootloader
[10:56] <cry0gen> without even a hint of it even being installed.
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> alternative install cd - is documented as to be the one to use for  grub/other twiddling.
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> I believe it does ask even in the desktop cd.
[10:56] <prophet> i cant figure this out
[10:56] <Qwell> Dr_Willis: Does it say that on ubuntu.org/desktop/?
[10:56] <mooky> fyrestrtr is that you in the images on your machine ?
[10:56] <deedubb> I agree, bootloader should be an asking thing
[10:57] <cry0gen> fyrestrtr: it does in the begining
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> Qwell,  i read it somewhere on the ubuntu pages.
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> mooky: eh? what images?
[10:57] <GianLuigiBuffon> Well guys... now I have both computer with Linux... Windows is no more in my home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:57] <cry0gen> it says before you click "next"
[10:57] <tahorg> deedubb: well it is
[10:57] <Qwell> somewhere that somebody who is trying to download it will see it?
[10:57] <cry0gen> to install
[10:57] <eod_punk> is it possible to edit grub outside of linux?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> Personally I think the live cd should have a 'text' install option.
[10:57] <GianLuigiBuffon> I been since march with just one pc with linux
[10:57] <mooky> http://www.meidomus.com/images/
[10:57] <cry0gen> it says "install grub bootloader"
[10:57] <cry0gen> juts people like Qwell keep clicking next
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> eod_punk,  you can use the grub console, or some other way to edit the menu.lst
[10:57] <Hexidigital__> in theory, after a clean install, i should be able to aptitude install kubuntu-desktop && aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop for pure KDE, correct?
[10:57] <cry0gen> fill out the information
[10:57] <cry0gen> click next some more
[10:57] <cry0gen> and never bother to read ;)
[10:57] <Qwell> cry0gen: There was no option
[10:57] <eod_punk> Dr_Willis, during boot?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  no.. removeing ubuntu-desktop will not remove much of anything.
[10:58] <deedubb> tahorg: I installed ubuntu desktop just yesturday, I don't recall being asked about my bootloader; but I installed to a seperate drive so I don't really mind, but some people do and should
[10:58] <cry0gen> yeah, it says it will install grub in the installer
[10:58] <cry0gen> :P
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> mooky: no, those pictures aren't of me, but some friends and some posessions.
[10:58] <admin_> can someone give me a list of xubuntu compatible wireless cards?
[10:58] <cry0gen> Did you readit anymore at all?
[10:58] <mooky> ahh
[10:58] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: besides Kubuntu LTS disc, any ideas what i'd have to remove?
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> mooky: oh wait, car-smile -- that's me (forgot about that one)
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  thers no 'easy' way to remove all of the gnome-desktop packages - that i know of.
[10:58] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks
[10:58] <tahorg> deedubb: if you hit esc during grub boot, you can choose
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  pesonally i never remove anything. :P
[10:59] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: :)
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  but ive seen a lot of others ask similer question and have similer missunderstandings
[10:59] <enderhegemon> Hi. Has anyone been able to connect to a public iDisk folder with 6.06?
[10:59] <admin_> can someone give me a list of xubuntu compatible wireless cards?
[10:59] <RamiKassab> hey guys I'm running the live cd on a machine with windows xp because I can't log into xp due to the windows geniune advantage crap. I want to copy some files from the ntfs partition that I need so that I can reformat the damn comp but I can't get access to the ntfs partition via the ubuntu live cd. The drive is supposidly mounted and it says it's status is accessible in System->Administration->Disks but I'm unable to bro
[10:59] <RamiKassab> wse the mount or anything due to permissions... any ideas? Thanks guys!
[10:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> see ya guyz!
[10:59] <tahorg> deedubb: if you mean "don't install grub on installing ubuntu"
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> admin_: find a list of *linux* compatible wireless cards.
[10:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> ty for help
[10:59] <GianLuigiBuffon> g2g now
[10:59] <tahorg> deedubb: how will you boot it ?
[10:59] <Qwell> meh, it boots at least :p
[10:59] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: well, i saw a walkthrough after a google search, which i could paste the command... it seemed to work on my laptop... i was just curious if there was an "easier" way
[11:00] <Qwell> in 1024x768 no less
[11:00] <GianLuigiBuffon> Hawking pcmecia wifi card  works without install
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: open a terminal, type sudo -i and hit enter
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  the apt-get sstem is good for installing stuff.. not quite as good as removing stuff. :P it tends to be to safe i guess.. or just dosent keep track/tags of what every package needs for its dependencies
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: then, type mount -- find out where its mounted, go there, and do what you need to do.
[11:00] <eod_punk> my onboard clevo laptop wireless card didn't work out of the box
[11:00] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks :)
[11:00] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ok I'll give it a wirl, thanks!
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: WGA stops your pc from being used?
[11:01] <metellius>  My sister is having problem with getting her wired internet working. I've tried to instruct her to do an ifup eth0, but it responds                  unknown interface. Is it so that it needs an entry in /etc/network/interfaces to work? and will that conflict with the gnome                         networkmanager applet?
[11:01] <pablo89> can samobody tell me what fuck is "wirl"????
[11:01] <varsendaggr> pablo89, language
[11:01] <pablo89> sorry, "Somebody"
[11:02] <pablo89> thanks
[11:02] <MKR> !language
[11:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> !wirl
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wirl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <eod_punk> later all
[11:02] <fmasi> how do i create a ReiserFS4 fs in ubuntu ?
[11:03] <pablo89> who heat to Microsoft????
[11:03] <stefg> fmasi: Don't
[11:03] <pablo89> haha
[11:03] <Abst> Is there any program in Ubuntu that can randomly rotate my desktop wallpapers?
[11:03] <varsendaggr> pablo89, what is this in referance to?
[11:03] <MKR> Cron and a perl script
[11:03] <mooky> pablo89 are you just spamming
[11:03] <D_dog> Okies give this one a shot..new box asus p5 mobo intel core 2 duo two sata hd's cdrom is on ide..ubuntu boots from the cdrom then when its time to install it says that it cant find the cdrom..this has happened on suse 10.1 and knoppix 5 also any ideas how to get ubuntu installed on my box
[11:03] <LookTJ> anyone walk me through installing jdk?
[11:03] <pablo89> no, dont think that
[11:03] <LookTJ> i forgot commands
[11:03] <Typhon> D_dog: netinstall
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> !java
[11:04] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:04] <enderhegemon> Does anyone use cadaver to log into iDisk?
[11:04] <pablo89> who heat to Windows???
[11:04] <pablo89> me
[11:04] <pablo89> me
[11:04] <pablo89> me
[11:04] <mooky> pablo89 please be quiet
[11:04] <LookTJ> Dr_willis: i said jdk not jre
[11:04] <D_dog> So metinstall with a minimal CD ??
[11:04] <Hexidigital__> pablo89: knock it off
[11:04] <Abst> pablo89: This is for Ubuntu tech support not for useless spamming and idiotic script kiddie talk.
[11:04] <LookTJ> pable ill go get op
[11:04] <pablo89> ok
[11:04] <LnxSlck> can someone help me ? i have a locale problem
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> LookTJ,  read the url - i do belive they mention the jdk as well
[11:04] <pablo89> i understood
[11:05] <varsendaggr> what is wirl pablo89 ?
[11:05] <Abst> We don't care if you ca nh4x0r the windows l0s3rs
[11:05] <LnxSlck> perl: warning: Setting locale failed
[11:05] <silox> What would keep the essid from staying set when using iwconfig and ndiswrapper?
[11:05] <pablo89> wirl is language
[11:05] <LookTJ> jdk is from sun
[11:05] <fmasi> is ther any whay i can have raiserfs4 under ubuntu ?
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> !locales > LnxSlck
[11:05] <Typhon> D_dog: i think some CDs can get to netinstall before losing the CD drive...not sure which
[11:05] <kaot> silox: how do you mean?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> LookTJ,  or are ya reafering to the SDK?
[11:06] <brian98> Hi All, I've made the move to ubuntu on my desktop
[11:06] <LookTJ> oh i meant the commands for installing jdk update 8
[11:06] <pablo89> do u understood varsendaggr???
[11:06] <brian98> got through everything
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> or does sun have more things that confised everyone. :P
[11:06] <brian98> and am really impressed :)
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> lol
[11:06] <brian98> now
[11:06] <Hexidigital__> pablo89: stop it now
[11:06] <silox> when I do iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever"
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> SUN is good at messing people up.
[11:06] <cry0gen> Dr_Willis: they have tons of stuff
[11:06] <brian98> I was thinking about my laptop
[11:06] <silox> it won't stay set in when i go back and type iwconfig wlan0
[11:06] <kaot> silox: usually that means you aren't actually communication with the AP
[11:06] <brian98> but reckon it might be tricky!
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> cry0gen,  more stuff then we will ever use/lnow about. :P
[11:06] <varsendaggr> pablo89, what language    or whirl is a codeing  language
[11:06] <brian98> would I be correct?
[11:06] <kaot> silox: it won't give an error if it fails to register
[11:06] <LookTJ> dr_willis i forgot commands to install jdk 5 update 8
[11:06] <kaot> silox: so it looks successful, but never actually registered
[11:07] <silox> If i scan for it though
[11:07] <silox> it its broadcasting
[11:07] <cry0gen> Dr_Willis: yeah cause Java's VM core is about 10 year old code
[11:07] <cry0gen> that is not a hide nor a hair worth it.
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> silox: have you tried it from the network manager?
[11:07] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: that worked thank you
[11:07] <LookTJ> dr_willis java vm sucks btw
[11:07] <LookTJ> :P
[11:07] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: yeah WGA eventually doesn't even let you log in before activating the copy
[11:07] <Macros42> what firewall is recommended for ubuntu?
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: good to know.
[11:07] <cry0gen> RamiKassab: yeah it does :|
[11:07] <silox> I tried that but it would just hang at the part where its
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> !firewall
[11:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[11:08] <LookTJ> firestarter
[11:08] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: yeah so make sure you fix it in a timely manner
[11:08] <brian98> anyone have experience of ubuntu on a Fujitsu Siemens laptop?
[11:08] <mooky> ipables is a winner
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> LookTJ,  whatever. :P makes no matter to me.
[11:08] <cry0gen> RamiKassab: All of my copies (i have a corp key) got nailed by WGA
[11:08] <silox> i guess trying to aquire the AP
[11:08] <cry0gen> some how
[11:08] <kaot> silox: you using wep?
[11:08] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: is there a way to make it so I can access the files off the NTFS partition outside of the terminal?
[11:08] <cry0gen> I called them up and they removed the report
[11:08] <brian98> Silox: What card is it?
[11:08] <cry0gen> and gave me the fix
[11:08] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: for example, using the FIle Browser
[11:08] <MKR> sudo nautilus
[11:08] <cry0gen> So i removed it.
[11:08] <brian98> Are you using native drivers?
[11:08] <brian98> anyone have experience of ubuntu on a Fujitsu Siemens laptop?
[11:08] <printk> RamiKassab: what do you mean outside the terminal?  if the NTFS partition is mounted you can access it period.
[11:08] <bioticpro> looks like MySpace is requiring Flash 9 now =(
[11:08] <mooky> brian98 stop asking
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: you need to run the file manager as the superuser. Run gksudo nautilus, not sudo nautilus.
[11:09] <silox> Man I wish its some cheapo delight I picked up at frys an airlink that uses marvell drivers
[11:09] <MKR> what he said
[11:09] <absolut> anyone know why 'make' command isn't working for me? (command now found) -- in ubuntu
[11:09] <MKR> What's the difference between the two anyway?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> brian98: have a look at the LaptopTestingTeam wiki
[11:09] <Macros42> thanks - that was a fast response :)
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> absolut: what are you trying to build?
[11:09] <nozorro> fyrestrtr: i think RamiKassab is better off adding the 'auto' option in fstab
[11:09] <absolut> stellarium
[11:09] <printk> absolut: try using the absolute path.  /usr/bin/make
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> nozorro: he's on livecd
[11:09] <MKR> nozorro, he's on a livecd
[11:09] <absolut> oki
[11:09] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ahh got ya
[11:09] <printk> absolut: if that works then it's your $PATH variable
[11:10] <RamiKassab> nozorro: I am running a livecd so don't think I can do that
[11:10] <MKR> You can, it just won't be saved
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> !info stellarium
[11:10] <ubotu> stellarium: real-time photo-realistic sky generator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1028 kB, installed size 2232 kB
[11:10] <MKR> You have a fully functional linux distro right now
[11:10] <brian98> fyrestrtr: Great resource...
[11:10] <brian98> Thanks!!
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> absolut: its in repos, use that.
[11:10] <LookTJ> found the commands
[11:10] <MKR> You can even use apt-get
[11:10] <pufx> hi, someone make a LFS ?
[11:11] <MKR> or aptitude
[11:11] <absolut> bash: /usr/bin/make: No such file or directory
[11:11] <printk> Linux from scratch?
[11:11] <pufx> printk yes
[11:11] <_lupine> pufx: it's a PITA :)
[11:11] <madfox> can anyone spare a few minutes about HT ?
[11:11] <fyrestrtr> absolut: stellarium is available for ubuntu. You don't need to compile it. Enable the universe repository, and then just install it.
[11:11] <cry0gen> ikonia: you develop with LFS?
[11:11] <JDahl> absolut, do you have gcc etc. installed?
[11:11] <printk> I've done it before yes, but this is #ubuntu :)
[11:11] <cry0gen> or are you on the LFS team?
[11:11] <ikonia> cry0gen I am a maintainer
[11:11] <ikonia> yes
[11:11] <_lupine> very nice
[11:11] <p0seidon> sup?
[11:11] <absolut> i believe so
[11:11] <cry0gen> I have 6 servers running my version of LFS.
[11:11] <cry0gen> :)
[11:11] <pufx> printk yes.. but in the channel lfs i'vnt responses :S
[11:11] <MKR> I couldn't figure out what to do with the downloads for LFS
[11:12] <printk> absolut: hrm looks like you need to reinstall make
[11:12] <cry0gen> Lots of custom things put in place on those builds.
[11:12] <JDahl> absolut, couldn't hurt to try installing build-essentials
[11:12] <blue-frog> is there a way to change gnome-terminal default windo size?
[11:12] <absolut> Yeah i installed the one from Synaptic ..but fonts were messed up ...couldn't see anything ..so i went to Stellarium site and downloaded it from there
[11:12] <pufx> printk you know how i can make a linux instalation cd ?
[11:12] <ikonia> cry0gen is there a reason you are asking about LFS in #ubuntu ?
[11:12] <brian98> fyrestrtr:  3D Acceleration
[11:12] <brian98>
[11:12] <brian98> N/A
[11:12] <brian98>
[11:12] <brian98> N/A
[11:12] <printk> pufx: well doing LFS most people can find their own anwsers
[11:12] <brian98> Argh!!
[11:12] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, hi... it still doesn't work.. can you help me ?
[11:12] <madfox> can anyone spare a few minutes about HT ? pm me please, I have checked forum and stuff but still ...
[11:12] <printk> pufx: that requires alot more than i can tell u on irc :)
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> madfox: just ask the question.
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: what were you trying to fix?
[11:13] <p0seidon> that's a secret
[11:13] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: do you have a GUI running?
[11:13] <pufx> printk i know... but i need documentation...
[11:13] <printk> absolut: sudo apt-get install make
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> absolut: install build-essential
[11:13] <pufx> printk some url :D
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> printk: NO
[11:13] <cry0gen> ikonia: nope I wasnt asking about it at all
[11:13] <absolut> thanks
[11:13] <cry0gen> I just heard you say LFS
[11:13] <cry0gen> lol
[11:13] <ikonia> ooh sorry, I thought someone was asking about it
[11:13] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, i did a dist-upgrade and now each time i use aptitude i get : perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[11:13] <ikonia> hence why I changed to my regular nick
[11:13] <MKR> D:
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  which gui? using KDE at the moment. :)
[11:13] <MKR> My home folder is 4.4gbn
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: what locale are you using?
[11:13] <ikonia> I use my hidden nick when I don't want to be pestered about lfs
[11:13] <MKR> -n
[11:13] <absolut> Package make is not available ... i think my repositories are messed up
[11:14] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde  here's what i was talking aobut
[11:14] <Hexidigital__> *aobut
[11:14] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, i'm using pt_PT
[11:14] <printk> fyrestrtr: no to what?
[11:14] <mooky> not that I mean you pestered me
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> absolut: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:14] <printk> oh build-essential that's right
[11:14] <MKR> Is there any way to get a breakdown of a folder and its subfolders so I can see where the space usage is?
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> printk: no to apt-get install make
[11:14] <mooky> MKR du
[11:14] <MKR> thanks
[11:14] <mooky> tree
[11:14] <absolut> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  they are manually removing all those packages. :P no simple remove ubuntu-desktop heh. thats a NASTY looking site. lol
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> MKR: du --max-depth=1 -h /some/folder
[11:14] <absolut> def. a repository issue no?
[11:15] <pufx> someone know some documentation for make an instalation linux cd ?
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> absolut: sudo apt-get update
[11:15] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: lol... it worked on my laptop, however... after a fresh install, i don't see much harm
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: that locale might not be available for perl?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  as far as i know  sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop   will NOT remove all of the xubuntu packages   UNLESS you used apititude
[11:15] <blue-frog> MKR: df -k /home will give you the size of /home partition for example
[11:15] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[11:15] <absolut> same error
[11:15] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: yes, i change apt-get to aptitude
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  notice the first line..--> If you used ---> aptitude  <---- to install other desktop environments,
[11:15] <MKR> I need a breakdown of the subfolders though; du looks like what I need
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> LnxSlck: hrmm, seems your pt_PT isn't setup correctly. Did you go through that site?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> heh. if ya dident use apitiude - then you got to do it the hard way
[11:16] <MKR> Trying to track down space use =P
[11:16] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, yes
[11:16] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: but i'm removing the one that i installed by default
[11:16] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, i everything went ok
[11:16] <graft> why do i get an 'RPC Error : 15  (program not registered)' when I try to NFS mount this thingy?
[11:16] <Qwell> umm...stupid question..  Why can I not install sshd on the desktop version?  heh
[11:16] <madfox> I have a Medion Laptop ... drivers for XP are a mess, Linux gets all right, Now using cpuid I see the HT flag is enabled, I have a p4-M on my laptop Question: It says HT siblings 1 so that means there is not HT at all ? or that it's not viewing it right ... or what ? The guy I got the laptop from told me it was HT ...
[11:16] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: just thought i'd show you that
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  i wonder how up to date that site is..
[11:16] <printk> Qwell: hrm who says you can't?
[11:16] <absolut> Can you paste me a repository that has 'make' or 'build-essentials' ?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Hexidigital__,  also what about other kde/gnome/whatever related packatges :P
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> graft: possibly could mean, your computer isn't authorized by the server.
[11:16] <MKR> Is there a way to sort du output by space?
[11:16] <Qwell> printk: apt?
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> absolut: its in the main repos.
[11:17] <Hexidigital__> Dr_Willis: 09/03/2006
[11:17] <Hexidigital__> *04
[11:17] <printk> Qwell: and it told you this by?
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> MKR: pipe the output to sort
[11:17] <graft> fyrestrtr: well i think i have the correct netmask etc. in /etc/exports on the server
[11:17] <Qwell> printk: me trying to install ssh :p
[11:17] <Deformative> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42158
[11:17] <MKR> D:
[11:17] <Deformative> Anyone know who made that?
[11:17] <MKR> didn't know about sort
[11:17] <pufx> ok thanks ;)
[11:17] <MKR> thanks
[11:17] <Qwell> because there was no /etc/init.d/ssh
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> MKR: man sort :)
[11:17] <printk> Qwell: ok i mean what exactly did it say?  apt-get install ssh
[11:17] <printk> it works for me
[11:17] <Qwell> Package ssh is not available, but is referred..blah
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> graft: netmount running?
[11:18] <Qwell> openssh-client ssh-askpass-gnome
[11:18] <Qwell> Package ssh has no installation candidate
[11:18] <graft> fyrestrtr: netmount? rpc.mountd and rpc.statd are running...
[11:18] <DeKo> hmmm, is there any dreamcast emulator for Ubuntu?
[11:18] <printk> openssh-server is what you need
[11:18] <printk> looks like you have repo issues
[11:18] <marshall> hey guys
[11:18] <madfox> so, can anyone help me corectly identify my cpu to see if it's HT capable or not ?
[11:18] <cry0gen> Qwell: openssh
[11:18] <cry0gen> ;)
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> graft: on both?
[11:18] <Qwell> Couldn't find package openssh-server
[11:18] <Qwell> Couldn't find package openssh
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> madfox: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:18] <LnxSlck> fyrestrtr, thanks anyway
[11:18] <marshall> how do you make apps that run under root have the same theme as normal apps?
[11:18] <cry0gen> apt-cache search openssh
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> madfox: that will give you tons of info.
[11:18] <stefg> !info openssh-server
[11:18] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[11:18] <madfox> not enough
[11:18] <Qwell> openssh-client
[11:18] <graft> fyrestrtr: um... there's no exports on th eclient so no rpc.mountd there
[11:18] <brian98> sqell -- sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:19] <printk> Qwell: did you mess with your sources.list?
[11:19] <Qwell> printk: nope
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> graft: I once ran into your error, and it was an acl issue, that's all I remember :(
[11:19] <marshall> how do you make apps that run under root have the same theme as normal apps?
[11:19] <brian98> qwell: even -- sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:19] <brian98> Works for me
[11:19] <madfox> i know ti should see 2 proc only with the 686 kernel with ht=on right ?
[11:19] <Qwell> well, it doesn't work here :P
[11:19] <stefg> Qwell: openssh-server is the package you're looking for
[11:19] <madfox> well it doesn't
[11:19] <graft> fyrestrtr: acl issue... i don't have acls, i'm using ext3... hrm
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> madfox: then you don't have HT enabled CPU
[11:19] <brian98> maybe you haven't got all the sources added..
[11:19] <Qwell> stefg: and what would I need to add to sources.list?  It's not there
[11:20] <printk> I only use the official repos
[11:20] <printk> and it lets me
[11:20] <printk> all though I am on edgy
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> Qwell: are you on dapper?
[11:20] <gepatino> madfox: cat /proc/cpuinfo, I think that you should see a 'ht' in Flags if it's a HT capable procesor
[11:20] <printk> but i promise LTS has openssh-server :)
[11:20] <Qwell> I've got dapper main restricted
[11:20] <Qwell> fyrestrtr: yeah
[11:20] <brian98> qwell: Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main openssh-server 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 [205kB]
[11:20] <madfox> it has HT in flags
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > Qwell
[11:20] <stefg> Qwell: it's in main, you don't need to add anything. Just sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:20] <brian98> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main ssh 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 [1052B]  Fetched 206kB in 0s (257kB/s)
[11:20] <gepatino> madfox: ubuntu's i686 kernel has smp support out of the box.
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> madfox: maybe ht is turned off in your bios.
[11:20] <Qwell> stefg: yeah, it would work if it was there. :)
[11:21] <brian98> stefg: I tried that and it failed
[11:21] <printk> Qwell: you do have dapper/main in your sources.list right?
[11:21] <Qwell> I do
[11:21] <brian98> stefg: but if I just do ssh it works
[11:21] <EV|Toshiba> I was running Xubnutnu, then someone told me to install Kubuntu packages.. now I cant connect ot he internet...any help on this?
[11:21] <gepatino> madfox: if you're using that kernel, maybe your procesor is not ht
[11:21] <Qwell> meh, silly apt
[11:21] <madfox> I know 686 has but running the 686 kernel doesn't change a thing
[11:21] <stefg> !info openssh-server
[11:21] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[11:21] <brian98> E: Package ssh-server has no installation candidate
[11:21] <tich> how would i rename a usb drive?
[11:21] <printk> brian98: openssh-server
[11:21] <stefg> _open_ssh-server
[11:21] <absolut> What is build-essential package for Ubuntu?
[11:21] <brian98> argh
[11:21] <brian98> solly
[11:21] <absolut> I have no make binary
[11:21] <w30> How do I install the source code for my kernel "2.6.15-26-amd64-generic"?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> brian98: openssh-server
[11:22] <brian98> sorry guys
[11:22] <bionoid> There is an "eyecandy feature" that draws a "growing 1px square" starting at whatever icon I click in the launch bar.. Is there a way to disable it?!
[11:22] <fyrestrtr> madfox: what cpu do you have?
[11:22] <madfox> p4 mobile
[11:22] <printk> w30: kernel-source i think is the package name
[11:22] <brian98> If I apt-get install ssh then it sets up the server and I can connect remotely without a problem
[11:22] <gnomefreak> absolut: it provides tools like a compilier and make (its for building compiling packages
[11:22] <absolut> gnomefreak: What package?
[11:22] <brian98> but you wanna do something different so apologies...
[11:23] <madfox> but I can't identify it right it's either the HT version or it's just the normal ....
[11:23] <Qwell> had to apt-get update a couple more times...
[11:23] <rhymes_> any clues about the reason why dpkg it failing so badly? "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault."
[11:23] <w30> printk, then I have to install patches?
[11:23] <absolut> gnomefreak: build-essential doesn't exist in Ubuntu. But it does in Debian.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> absolut: build-essential
[11:23] <Qwell> (yes, a couple)
[11:23] <fyrestrtr> madfox: grep model /proc/cpuinfo <-- paste the ouput of that.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> absolut: sure it does
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> !info build-essential
[11:23] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:23] <gnomefreak> !build-essential
[11:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:23] <mooky> w30 depends if ou want patches
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> :) beat ya!
[11:23] <fyrestrtr> Dr_Willis: you got the wrong trigger :P
[11:23] <knapper> What's a good id3 tag editor for linux(gnome)
[11:23] <graft> haha, stupid hosts.allow... damnit
[11:23] <knapper> ?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[11:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:23] <madfox> model           : 2
[11:23] <madfox> model name      : Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 2.80GHz
[11:23] <madfox> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
[11:24] <madfox> should say HT in the model name no ? then why is the HT flag set ?
[11:24] <gepatino> madfox: I have a HT PIV, and the first line is model: 4
[11:24] <w30> mooky, I want the same kernel I have now, I need it for an install of a 3rd party kernel module.
[11:25] <gepatino> madfox: i thought that the ht in flags was that, but was just a guess :|
[11:25] <printk> w30: then really if you're compling 3rd party drivers all you should need is the kernel headers
[11:25] <madfox> at least i have speed stepping :)
[11:25] <mooky> w30 so you won't need patches
[11:25] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: sorry I had to go do something but I lost the messages you had sent about starting the file browser as sudo... I run what again?
[11:25] <gepatino> madfox: cpu family: 15
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> gksudo nautilus
[11:25] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: gksudo? what's the diff between that and just sudo?
[11:25] <narg> !restrictedformats
[11:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:25] <rhymes_> no clues whatsoever guys? why I have a segfault on dpkg?
[11:25] <printk> w30: if u can't get the exact source from the repo, get it from kernel.org
[11:26] <printk> for your kernel version
[11:26] <w30> printk, so I can install kernel headers, how? is there a .deb for that?
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: sudo is for non-gui apps, gksudo is for gui apps. Something to do with file permissions and .... oh yeah, not breaking stuff :)
[11:26] <madfox> yes it's cpu familiy 15
[11:26] <absolut> gnomefreak: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GUldyj23.html
[11:26] <mooky> kernel-headers package
[11:26] <stefg> rhymes_: wrong libc6...
[11:26] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: ah got ya... the command isn't working though :(
[11:26] <printk> w30: kernel-headers is the package
[11:26] <absolut> That is my sources.list and I do sudo apt-get install build-essential but it says there is no installation candidate
[11:26] <gepatino> madfox: check your bios anyway... maybe its missconfigured
[11:26] <w30> mooky, ok wonderful
[11:26] <rhymes_> stefg: mmm how that happened?
[11:26] <brian98> Everytime I disconnect from a ms rdp connection tsclient bombs out with various different errors.
[11:26] <printk> absolut: did you read that link from ubotu on compiling?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> absolut: ok hold on
[11:26] <brian98> is there a fix
[11:27] <brian98> or is it just me?
[11:27] <brian98> cant find anything in any of the usual suspect places
[11:27] <madfox> what can I tell you my bios has very few options ... it's been driving me crazy, not at all the usual options you get on a PC
[11:27] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: what are you typing?
[11:27] <absolut> printk: yes
[11:27] <mooky> brian98 what are the usual suspects ?
[11:27] <brian98> ubuntuforums.org
[11:27] <stefg> rhymes_: played with /evil/ entries in your sources.list ? :-)
[11:27] <brian98> ubunto.com support wiki
[11:27] <brian98> GOOGLE! :)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> absolut: you have no repos enabled other than quinns
[11:27] <mooky> right, so you've not tried to debug anything
[11:27] <mooky> you've just looked on a forum
[11:28] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: typing 'gksudo nautilus'
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> RamiKassab: and what happens?
[11:28] <gepatino> madfox: sorry... that's all i can do for you :(
[11:28] <brian98> sorry :(
[11:28] <RamiKassab> fyrestrtr: says Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:28] <gnomefreak> absolut: make yours look like this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[11:28] <gnomefreak> dinner ill be back
[11:28] <madfox> anyway thanks for the help guys about HT, I also wonder how to get the battery power gauge to get better aproximates ?