[13:33] <smoser> Linuturk, not really.
[13:33] <smoser> but you can make the url whatever you want
[13:33] <smoser> so http://example.com/foo/$INSTANCE_ID?linturk-says-hello=true
[13:41] <nvucinic> sec
[17:48] <harmw> alexpilotti: after booting a Windows2012 image, whats the method to retrieve the administrator passwor?
[17:48] <alexpilotti> harmw: nova get-password <vmname> <private-keypair-path>
[17:49] <harmw> excellnt
[17:49] <harmw> thanks!
[17:50] <alexpilotti> harmw: you’re welcome!
[17:51] <harmw> hehe, and it actually works :)
[17:51] <harmw> nice
[17:51] <alexpilotti> harmw: :-)
[17:52] <alexpilotti> harmw: that’s the only secure way to handle passwords
[17:52] <harmw> I can imagine
[17:52] <alexpilotti> harmw: all other options require passing clear text passwords in a way or the other
[17:53] <harmw> do you support user-data to configure stuff like timezone?
[17:54] <alexpilotti> harmw: userdata as in #cloud-config?
[17:54] <harmw> kind of, yes
[17:55] <harmw> just some way of pushing scripts/stuff in to the image at deploymnt-stage
[17:55] <alexpilotti> harmw: you can pass a powershell userdata script that can do anything you want, iincluding setting the timezone or
[17:55] <harmw> ah
[17:55] <harmw> great
[17:56] <harmw> not as structured (abstract) as cloudinit, but it'll certainly do just fine :)
[17:56] <harmw> thanks
[17:56] <alexpilotti> harmw: alternatively you can use the same cloud-config format used on linux, where we support the non-linux specific features, including timezone
[17:56] <harmw> oh, so you do?
[17:56] <alexpilotti> harmw: it’s actually funny that you mentioned the timezone
[17:56] <alexpilotti> harmw: as that specific bit is currently under review :-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166795/
[17:57] <harmw> hehe cool
[17:57] <alexpilotti> so expect to see it merged in a few days max
[19:30] <smoser> harmw, cloud-init 2.0 is windows friendly.
[19:30] <smoser> and alexpilootti and company will be helping there.
[19:30] <harmw> excellent
[19:31] <harmw> no point in having 'forks'
[19:31] <harmw> we should be making more noise in regards of fbsd as well some time
[19:31] <smoser> yes. and that is a target of 2.0 from the start... so you can be in volved ther e:)
[19:32] <harmw> (btw, I'm not saying cloudbase is just some bad fork, its great and even beter to see it will fully merge for 2.0)
[19:32] <harmw> hehe
[19:35] <smoser> ;)
[21:12] <nathanleclaire> So if I just apt-get installed cloud-init on a server and want to try some of the examples just through the CLI, what to do?
[21:12] <nathanleclaire> Not through any 3rd party provider / e.g. AWS cli tools
[21:12] <nathanleclaire> I just want to know where to put the YAML / scripts and what cloudinit commands to run


[00:11] <abtm_> question, I have an xubuntu VM that is displaying the wrong time.
[00:11] <abtm_> it knows what timezone I am in and displays the accurate minutes and seconds but it shows the hours to be 4 hours ahead
[00:11] <abtm_> shell date command shows the correct time
[00:11] <abtm_> the clock applet is displaying in the custom format of %a %b %d, %Y%n%-I:%M:%S %p
[00:11] <abtm_> also the lock/login screen shows the correct time
[00:42] <krytarik> abtm_: "[08:12] <brainwash> abtm_: did you set the timezone in the clock applet settings?"
[01:18] <abtm_> yes
[01:18] <abtm_> edt
[20:09] <hzmatt> I'm looking for opinions on what is the "modern" keyring to use with xfce/xubuntu.  I'm looking for one that unlocks on login such that my ssh sessions to other hosts will be able to use my key store.
[20:10] <hzmatt> I find references to all sorts of secret stores and keyring managers, but I'm sure some of them are deprecated and either aren't well supported anymore or are deprecated.


[04:22] <mup> Bug #1869264 changed: Upgrade from MAAS 2.6.0 to 2.6.2 in HA environment results in maas DB user's password reset, no MAAS nodes able to connect to DB <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869264>
[14:42] <mup_> Bug #1880966 opened: machines read (API) call is unreasonably slow <performance> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880966>
[14:47] <mup> Bug #1880966 opened: machines read (API) call is unreasonably slow <performance> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880966>
[14:48] <mup_> Bug #1880966 changed: machines read (API) call is unreasonably slow <performance> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880966>
[14:50] <mup> Bug #1880966 changed: machines read (API) call is unreasonably slow <performance> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880966>
[14:51] <mup_> Bug #1880966 opened: machines read (API) call is unreasonably slow <performance> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880966>
[14:53] <mup> Bug #1880966 opened: machines read (API) call is unreasonably slow <performance> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1880966>


[01:49] <nalioth> LjL: stop
[01:50] <LjL> nalioth: uh?
[01:50] <nalioth> LjL: your bans are useless
[01:50] <LjL> why?
[01:50] <nalioth> they've all been klined
[01:50] <LjL> nalioth: i'm banforwarding the victims actually
[01:50] <nalioth> victims? we still have those?
[01:51] <LjL> apparently
[01:51] <LjL> the one banning was seveas :P
[01:51] <LjL> but i guess it was just his script that bans global notices
[01:55] <LjL> nalioth: one thing... now with +J, if we set +r as i just did, during the time -unregged is +i to kick everyone, people who try to join could find themselves locked out of everything i imagine
[01:57] <nalioth> LjL: if you /kick them one at a time (like i do) you don't run into that
[01:57] <LjL> nalioth: i do kick them one at a time, since i have no script... still someone could overflow i suppose. well, if the settings are relaxed enough, which i think they are, perhaps not
[02:38] <Hobbsee> nalioth: can you put a ban for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in #ubuntu-meeting please?  the spammers are hitting there as well
[02:38] <Hobbsee> and i dont have access there
[02:38] <LjL> wow you're really banning things like that?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> LjL: do a /who<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:39] <LjL> yeah i know it's a spammers' subnet these days
[02:39] <LjL> reverse DNS shows a spanish ISP last time i tried
[02:39] <Hobbsee> it's gotten hit so many times in the past day or so...
[02:40] <LjL> hm, not with the ones that are online now though
[02:40] <Hobbsee> hrm?
[02:41] <LjL> i mean, the ones that are in /who right now don't reverse-resolve to the spanish ISP i had in mind Hobbsee
[02:41] <nalioth> ok
[02:41] <LjL> actually i can't do reverse DNS on them at all
[02:42] <Minataku> Give me an example IP
[02:42] <Minataku> I'll see what I can run on it
[02:42] <Hobbsee> Minataku: of a spammer?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> [12:12]  --> Veroi22 has joined this channel (n=Veroi22@<IP_ADDRESS>).
[02:42] <Minataku> Sure
[02:42] <LjL> Hobbsee: erkanoz07 and codestr0m
[02:42] <nalioth> Hobbsee: sorted?
[02:43] <Hobbsee> nalioth: yeah, think so
[02:43] <nalioth> i guess i could have routed them to ##bigpointystick
[02:43] <Hobbsee> thanks
[02:43] <Hobbsee> haha
[02:43] <LjL>  /who *88.232*
[02:43] <Minataku> That one doesn't even resolve period
[02:44] <fr500_> hello
[02:44] <Hobbsee> LjL: ahh, there it is
[02:44] <Hobbsee> hey fr500_
[02:44] <fr500_> can anyone help me with this dcc issue?
[02:44] <LjL> sure
[02:44] <Hobbsee> !exploit
[02:44] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[02:44] <LjL> fr500_: have you followed the instructions in the topic?
[02:44] <fr500_> LjL: i updated firmware
[02:44] <nalioth> LjL: do both a channel test and a ctcp test, please
[02:45] <LjL> you... wow.
[02:45] <LjL> you're the first
[02:45] <LjL> ok nalioth
[02:45] <LjL> fr500_, i'll test you if you don't mind. join ##ljl please
[02:45] <fr500_> ok
[02:45] <LjL> Hobbsee, you DCCd me?
[02:45] <Amaranth> Mez: ping?
[02:46] <DBO> wow
[02:46] <DBO> someone actually updated the firmware
[02:46] <Hobbsee> LjL: just testing
[02:46] <DBO> Im really impressed =)
[02:46] <LjL> not fixed
[02:46] <DBO> thats a shame...
[02:46] <LjL> Hobbsee: oh that was an exploit attempt? my client took it as a genuine DCC
[02:46] <LjL> fr500_, it doesn't seem to be quite fixed yet
[02:46] <Hobbsee> LjL: nope
[02:46] <Hobbsee> it was genuine
[02:46] <LjL> fr500_: i suggest connecting to port 8001
[02:46] <nalioth> guess its 8001 city
[02:47] <fr500_> ok
[02:47] <LjL> nalioth: even this time, the PRIVMSG (though still public channel) one had no effect, while it did in CTCP
[02:47] <LjL> (CTCP was to the channel too)
[02:47] <nalioth> LjL: be careful where you do channel ctcp tests
[02:47] <LjL> nalioth, i did it in ##ljl
[02:48] <somerville32> Hobbsee, Yeah, I think Mez patched it.
[02:48] <fr500> switched port
[02:48] <LjL> fr500: join ##ljl again please
[02:48] <Amaranth> can't you hook some code into the ircd to automatically kline people who do that?
[02:48] <Hobbsee> somerville32: yep
[02:49] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: he's got one, hence the being careful...
[02:49] <Amaranth> that's irc client scripts, afaik
[02:49] <LjL> fr500: you're ok now
[02:49] <fr500> ok
[02:50] <ReKlipz> Someone want to help me with this DCCExploit thing?
[02:50] <LjL> ReKlipz, you're an exploit victim too right
[02:50] <LjL> yes
[02:50] <Amaranth> crap crap crap i can't remember how to get into the control panel thing on mez's server
[02:50] <LjL> ReKlipz: followed the instructions on the topic?
[02:50] <Amaranth> ReKlipz: you're in omaha?
[02:50] <ReKlipz> i did the fix #1
[02:50] <ReKlipz> yes, in omaha
[02:50] <Amaranth> me too
[02:50] <LjL> ReKlipz: join ##ljl then please
[02:50] <Hobbsee> LjL: he's fine
[02:50] <LjL> k
[02:50] <LjL> Hobbsee, tried with CTCP too?
[02:51] <ReKlipz> heh, so why is it that the victims have to go thru this?
[02:51] <LjL> hmm, i haven't tried notices actually
[02:51] <Hobbsee> CTCP what?  there are multiple types
[02:51] <LjL> Hobbsee: ctcp no type
[02:51] <LjL> Hobbsee: just a ctcp containing the exploit
[02:51] <Hobbsee> ReKlipz: to stop them being constantly kicked every time someone runs an exploit
[02:51] <LjL> ReKlipz: just to make sure it's fixed
[02:51] <Hobbsee> LjL: yes.  CTCP != just notices, btw
[02:51] <Amaranth> ReKlipz: because if the guy doing the exploit doesn't disconnect anyone it's less annoying for everyone
[02:52] <ReKlipz> ah i gotcha
[02:52] <Amaranth> CTCP is a privmsg
[02:52] <ReKlipz> so its really my/the victins fault
[02:52] <Hobbsee> ban removed :)
[02:52] <Amaranth> notice is a privmsg too, isn't it?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> ReKlipz: it's your routers fault
[02:52] <LjL> actually notice is just notice
[02:52] <ReKlipz> my neighbors' routers fault...
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: sort of
[02:52] <Hobbsee> ReKlipz: yeah :)
[02:52] <ReKlipz> =
[02:52] <LjL> a CTCP can be sent by PRIVMSG *or* NOTICE
[02:52] <ReKlipz> =)
[02:52] <Hobbsee> LjL: CTCP can also be a ping, or a version request, iirc.
[02:52] <LjL> the standard is that the CTCP request is sent by PRIVMSG and the CTCP reply is sent by NOTICE
[02:52] <LjL> if i recall correctly
[02:53] <LjL> Hobbsee: that's what a CTCP *is* most of the time
[02:53] <LjL> it's the reason it exists for
[02:53] <ReKlipz> can i ask a quick support question?
[02:53] <Minataku> CTCPs are just speciallt crafted PRIVMSG/NOTICEs
[02:53] <LjL> ReKlipz: no :)
[02:53] <ReKlipz> k :)
[02:53] <LjL> Minataku: that's what i said
[02:53] <ReKlipz> thx guys
[02:53] <Hobbsee> ReKlipz: #ubuntu's open to you, btw
[02:53] <Minataku> Also, /me or /action is the same
[02:53] <ReKlipz> Hobbsee: i'm there
[02:53] <Amaranth> the only CTCP that works as a NOTICE here is PING
[02:54] <LjL> anyway, dissertations about the IRC standard aside
[02:54] <Amaranth> heh
[02:54] <Amaranth> i used to write IRC bots for run to learn programming languages
[02:54] <LjL> the point is: some people seem to be affected by the exploit when done via CTCP, but *not* when done via simple PRIVMSG
[02:54] <LjL> not tried NOTICE yet (with or without CTCP), so don't know
[02:54] <Amaranth> weird
[02:54] <LjL> so, try CTCP when testing them
[02:54] <Amaranth> oh, i always do
[02:57] <Amaranth> ugh
[02:58] <Amaranth> damnit, i can't setup a MySQL database :/
[03:01] <LjL> actually, it might be that konversation is weird and uses NOTICE for CTCP, so i've been sending NOTICEs and what makes a difference is that and not the CTCP...
[03:01] <LjL> need a telnet to check i guess
[03:03] <LjL> except freenode doesn't let me join for some reason... USER takes 4 arguments doesn't it?
[03:04] <Minataku> I'd have to check the RFC
[03:05] <LjL> nevermind - i was just stupid.
[03:05] <LjL> (forgot the port in telnet *cough*)
[03:05] <LjL> anyway - CTCP is sent by PRIVMSG here, so it's actually the CTCP that makes the difference
[03:29] <Amaranth> man, Mez's server must be getting slammed :/
[03:31] <Amaranth> i say that and then it starts flying
[04:16] <Hobbsee> !-real
[04:16] <ubotu> real is <alias> codecs - added by Madpilot on 2006-12-12 09:36:59
[04:16] <Hobbsee> !-real player
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <Hobbsee> !real player is <alias> codecs
[04:24] <nickspamming> hey hobbsee :P
[04:24] <Hobbsee> hey nickspamming :P
[04:24] <Hobbsee> did you enjoy that?
[04:24] <nickspamming> why thank you
[04:24] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:24] <nickspamming> meh... doesn't matter to me
[04:24] <nickspamming> I just have to rejoin my channels now... since +u doesn't work on this nick
[04:25] <nickspamming> oh... and everybody...
[04:25] <nickspamming> please suspend Hobbsee's operator privileges, she's abusing them in #ubuntu-offtopic by kicking people :D
[04:25] <Hobbsee> nickspamming: you could just re identify
[04:26] <nickspamming> Hobbsee: yeah... but then... I'd still have to manually join them...
[04:26] <nickspamming> I haven't set up autojoin in nickserv...
[04:26] <nickspamming> (does freenode have that feature)?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> didnt think so - but your client will
[04:28] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:35] <Minataku> Hey, incorrect description found
[04:35] <Minataku> [22:32:43]  ubotu libsigsegv-dev: Library for handling page faults in a portable way. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 84 kB
[04:36] <Minataku> SIGSEGV has nothing to do with page faults
[04:36] <Minataku> It's a memory segmentation violatio
[04:36] <Minataku> n
[04:37] <apokryphos> Minataku: take it up with the packagers.
[04:37] <Minataku> Who are they? XD
[04:38] <apokryphos> !packages | Minataku
[04:38] <ubotu> Minataku: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:38] <Minataku> Suggest s/awkward/discouraged/
[04:39] <Minataku> Manual compilation and installation is hardly "awkward"
[04:39] <apokryphos> in comparison to apt-get install, for new users, it certainly is, yes.
[04:39] <apokryphos> anyhow, off to bed now 8)
[04:40] <Minataku> Sorry, I like to keep it fair to all
[04:40] <Minataku> New and experienced XD
[05:21] <Stapol> Can someone help me with the #ubuntu-read-topic channel?
[05:28] <Mez> Amaranth - yeah it is - it does this now and then
[05:32] <Mez> fucking spam droids
[05:40] <Tido> I'd like to be let back into #ubuntu.  I'm on port 8001 now
[05:41] <nalioth> Tido: join me in ##tido
[05:42] <Tido> thanks nalioth
[05:43] <nalioth> Tido: you should be ok now
[05:43] <nalioth> thanks for your patience
[05:44] <Tido> was that what all that 'lesbian' spam was about?
[05:44] <nalioth> Tido: please don't repeat those strings any where
[05:44] <tonyy> nalioth, Tido: May I try something as well?
[05:45] <Tido> as long as it's nothing a reboot won't fix, I don't care
[05:45] <tonyy> Tido: join ##tonyyarusso this time?
[05:46] <tonyy> Tido: Okay, good.
[05:46] <Tido> thx
[05:46] <tonyy> nalioth: We were messing with things earlier and finding some that worked while others we thought should didn't, so I'm double checking what we learned
[05:50] <SportChick> s/tonn/tonyy/
[05:52] <tonyy> Hobbsee: I left a very enlightened comment on your "blog" ;)
[05:52] <Hobbsee> oh?
[05:52] <SportChick> Hobbsee has a blog?
[05:52] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:52] <tonyy> a "blog" so far
[05:52] <Hobbsee> http://hobbsee.blogspot.com/
[05:52] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:52] <Hobbsee> SportChick: my myspace is better though.
[05:53] <tonyy> MySpace is eeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllll
[05:53] <Hobbsee> SportChick: http://myspace.com/creamier_oak  :D
[05:53] <tonyy> meanie
[05:53] <SportChick> Hobbsee: hehe nice blogspot blog :D
[05:53] <Hobbsee> SportChick: :)
[05:54] <tonyy> wait for it....
[05:54] <SportChick> tonyy: hehe, he's gotta start somewhere :D
[05:54] <tonyy> +s
[05:55] <Hobbsee> SportChick: he?
[05:55] <SportChick> Hobbsee: huhn?
[05:57] <nalioth> Hobbsee is the Queen of the Pointy Stick Of Doom
[05:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:57] <Hobbsee> you mean the Queen *with* the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:58] <tonyy> I'm amused you have a trademark symbol easily accessible just for that
[05:58] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:01] <SportChick> Hobbsee is a she? :D
[06:01] <SportChick> w00t!!!
[06:01] <Hobbsee> yes :)
[06:01] <Hobbsee> :D
[06:01] <Hobbsee> very much so :P
[06:01] <SportChick> yay for irc-shes :)
[06:01] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:01] <nalioth> women on irc are a myth
[06:01] <nixternal> nalioth: rr72 d c c in #ubuntu-chicago but don't say I told you. say you got it from the freenode bot
[06:02] <SportChick> Hobbsee: http://www.kirkanddonna.com/donna/
[06:02] <SportChick> nalioth: lol - you remember my blog post about that don't you?
[06:02] <tonyy> nalioth: I was talking to one once, her name was Eliza.
[06:02] <nalioth> i remember
[06:02] <nixternal> scare the shiznit out of him nalioth, or gline/kline whatever :)
[06:02] <nixternal> haha
[06:03] <Hobbsee> hehe, nice :)
[06:04] <nixternal> he can be annoying, but he is just a confused kid who is on all types of silly meds
[06:05] <nixternal> i told him that nalioth and rob have bots and loggers for every channel and they auto kline for it after reading logs
[06:05] <nixternal> then nalioth popped in...funny
[06:05] <tonyy> lol
[06:05] <nixternal> haha, he is actually being civil for once...to funny
[06:06] <nalioth> wonder why?
[06:06] <nixternal> hehe
[06:06] <nixternal> oh man, he about shat himself when i made up some bot thing
[06:06] <nixternal> and right after he was like no way, you popped in
[06:07] <nixternal> I am willing to be he is sitting in his chair shaking with cold sweats right now
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> Um, theories on why my blog would have http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ as a referrer?
[06:44] <nalioth> spam spiders
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> oh
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Premature reports of your death.
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> They do that a lot.
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> My theory was that maybe my ISP was looking up the site...
[07:08] <linux_kid> Nick0raz in #ubuntu is trolling
[07:12] <Hobbsee> bah.  more idiots than usual today.
[07:13] <nalioth> wow at ALL THOSE OPS
[07:13] <DBO> it beeped
[07:13] <DBO> I looked
[07:13] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:18] <Hobbsee> mneptok: idiots are out in full force today.
[07:19] <mneptok> so i see
[07:24] <elkbuntu> i thought that system person was banned the other day
[07:25] <elkbuntu> as for the idiots... isnt it like superbowl day today or something?
[07:26] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: i dunno...but i'm really glad i'm not at work, at this point
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Well the superbowl certainly isn't being played at 1:30 AM
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> :P
[07:27] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, but high-profile events have a window of time when stupid people are around that extends beyond the actual event ;)
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: I'm _hoping_ it is, but if anything happens once, we put the * one back.
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: SportChick: Have the "lesbian" spammers been around elsewhere lately?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: yeah
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: during it they'll be away from the computers hopefully
[07:29] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, considering that the "sporting finals bring out the primative moron in many people" effect will be in place, it'll be good fun
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: WOOOOOOOOOOOoo lets flip over a channel and set it on fire!!!!!!!
[07:30] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, and with the above comes juveniles gaining access to alcohol phenomena ;)
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> yes.  argh.
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> Why can't we just be intelligent like Europe and let them have it with dinner rather than making it a rush of illicit novelty later?

[07:32] <elkbuntu> too true
[07:32] <elkbuntu> over here, an accompanied minor with parental permission is allowed one standard drink with a meal in a restaurant
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Here, an unaccompanied minor isn't allowed in the door of the liquor store to buy his dad a wine bottle foil cutter for Fathers' Day
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> I had to go back home and drag my mom along.
[07:34] <elkbuntu> heh
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> Then, when paying, I put money on the counter.  "I can't take it from him."  Slid money over to my mom.  She slid it to cashier.  They put change down for her.  She slid it to me.  I pocket it, take bag from her, and walk out shaking my head.
[07:37] <elkbuntu> hmm... i dont remember Bread's blind man in the bleachers being *that* sort of blind...
[07:38] <mneptok> http://www.mlbroadtrip.com/images/photos/april/week2/crazyarizonafans.jpg
[07:39] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: true
[07:39] <mneptok> "When Dave 'The E' Harringhon missed the 3pm express bus to the big game, his friends ended up appearing to advertise male genitalia."
[07:39] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: really?
[07:52] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: 'lesbian' spammers?
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: all of the nicks started with that for a while.  Anyway, part of the larger group that was advertising EXOTICS something
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> wait, that was a different set
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Um, both!
[07:53] <nalioth> ah yes, they've been hitting since yesterday or late the day before
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> still on though?
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> okay
[07:55] <SportChick> tonyyarusso: I haven't seen any for several hours
[09:53] <Seveas> does noone pay attention to unregged?
[09:53] <Seveas> I've removed the +J again, unregged is filling up
[09:55] <Seveas> #ubuntu is again mlock'ed on -J
[09:55] <Seveas> +J solves nothing, bots still get in
[09:56] <Seveas> and +J gives problems: normal people get forwarded to nomansland
[10:55] <Jucato> oops, ubotu left...
[11:06] <Seveas> Jucato, yes, I'm poking at his brain
[11:06] <Seveas> !foo
[11:07] <ubotu> foo is barr
[11:07] <Seveas> !foo is baz
[11:07] <ubotu> But foo already means something else!
[11:07] <Jucato> lol :)
[11:07] <Seveas> !foo2 is moooo
[11:07] <Seveas> adding/editing factoids is still broken
[11:07] <Seveas> but all other functions are working
[12:11] <Mez> Seveas, still around ?
[12:11] <Seveas> yes
[12:12] <Mez> Seveas, can i can ubugtu in #katapult reporting katapult bugs ?
[12:12] <Seveas> no
[12:12] <Mez> Seveas, why ?
[12:12] <Seveas> but i've fixed ubugtu to make it easier to use
[12:12] <Seveas> Mez, it's in too many channels already, I'm not adding it to every upstream that wants it
[12:12] <Mez> Seveas, but, jokosher ? :P
[12:13] <Mez> appeasing the jono, huh ? :P
[12:13] <Seveas> Mez, it's *my* bot, so I decide which channels it goes in
[12:14] <Mez> Seveas, :P
[12:14] <Mez> Seveas, meh - so you wont help me get lethargy reporting
[12:14] <Mez> you wont let me use ubugtu
[12:14] <Seveas> Mez, update to the latest code and read the readme
[12:14] <Seveas> it now has docs and is much improved
[12:15] <Mez> Seveas, is the code on the site now ?
[12:15] <Seveas> yes
[12:15] <Mez> !katapult
[12:15] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[12:16] <Mez> !RAR
[12:16] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:16] <Mez> !unrar-nonfree
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <Mez> why does it not do an automatic package search nemoew
[12:16] <Seveas> hmm
[12:16] <Seveas> !info unrar-nonfree
[12:16] <ubotu> Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[12:17] <Seveas> Mez, that's why :)
[12:17] <Seveas> !xmoto
[12:17] <ubotu> xmoto: 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[12:17] <Mez> !unrar-free
[12:17] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional.  For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:17] <Mez> !info unrar
[12:17] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[12:33] <Seveas> !-mp3
[12:33] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:35] <Mez> we're leaving together....
[12:35] <Mez> <mumble mumble mumble>
[12:35] <Mez> It's the FINAL COUNTDOWN!
[12:35] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[12:35] <Seveas> !-mp3
[12:36] <Mez> @lart add makes $who try and figure out the supybot Encyclopedia plugin's code
[12:36] <Mez> @lart 37 Seveas
[12:36] <Mez> @lart 38 Seveas
[12:36] <Mez> @lart 38 Seve as
[12:36] <Mez> @lart search supybot
[12:36] <Ubugtu> 1 found: #40: "makes $who try and figure out the supybot..."
[12:36] <Mez> @lart 49 Seve as
[12:37] <Mez> @lart 40 Seve as
[12:37] <Seveas> Mez, heh
[12:37] <Seveas> Mez, I'm fixing that code to be usable :)
[12:37] <Mez> Seveas, I got ther eventually
[12:37] <Mez> Seveas, make it readable - I'll be happy
[12:38] <Seveas> Mez, it's been changed a lot :)
[12:39] <Mez> @lart add emails<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"bug *; assignee $who"
[12:39] <Mez> @lart 41 Seveas
[12:40] <Seveas> @lart list
[12:40] <Seveas> meh
[12:41] <Mez> list them ?
[12:41] <Mez> @lart stats
[12:41] <Ubugtu> There are 37 larts in my database.
[12:41] <Mez> @lart get
[12:41] <Ubugtu> (lart get [<channel>]  <id>) -- Gets the $type with id <id> from the $type database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
[12:41] <Seveas> @list Lart
[12:41] <Ubugtu> add, change, get, lart, pity, remove, search, and stats
[12:45] <Seveas> adding factoids works
[12:45] <Seveas> forget/unforget/editing not yet
[12:47] <Mez> !ubuntu-restricted-extrasis <reply> Ubuntu Restricted Extras is a new way of getting common "restricted" codecs, etc. See !RestrictedFormats
[12:47] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[12:47] <Mez> !ubuntu-restricted-extras is <reply> Ubuntu Restricted Extras is a new way of getting common "restricted" codecs, etc. See !RestrictedFormats
[12:48] <Mez> it's obviously not working
[12:48] <Mez> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu Restricted Extras is a new way of getting common "restricted" codecs, etc. See !RestrictedFormats
[12:48] <Mez> !ubuntu-restricted-extrasis
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-restricted-extrasis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <Mez> or, it's grepping works better than i thought it did
[12:49] <jenda> Hey Mez.
[12:49] <Mez> !ure is <alias> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:49] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Mez
[12:49] <Mez> !ubunturestrictedextras <alias> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:49] <Mez> hey jenda
[12:50] <Mez> !ubunturestrictedextras is ias> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:50] <Mez> !ubunturestrictedextras is <alis> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:50] <ubotu> But ubunturestrictedextras already means something else!
[12:50] <Mez> !no, ubunturestrictedextras is <alias> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about nturestrictedextras is <alias> ubuntu-restricted-extras yet, Mez!n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez
[12:50] <Mez> elkbuntu, find me one without an insert key
[12:51] <elkbuntu> heh
[12:53] <Mez> jenda: er, you there?
[12:55] <Mez> @list
[12:55] <Ubugtu> Admin, Anonymous, Bantracker, Bugtracker, Channel, Config, Filter, Lart, Math, Mess, Misc, Owner, Restart, Scheduler, Services, User, and Webcal
[12:55] <Mez> %list
[12:55] <ubotu> Admin, Anonymous, Channel, Config, Encyclopedia, Misc, Owner, RSS, Restart, Services, and User
[12:56] <Mez> Seveas, you using a modified RSS plugin /
[12:56] <jenda> Mez: yup
[12:56] <Seveas> no
[12:56] <Mez> %list rss
[12:56] <ubotu> '', add, announce, planetubuntu, planetubuntunl, remove, rss, thefridge, and ubuntusecrity
[12:56] <Mez> jenda: can you see why tvo hasnt got his cloak yet
[12:56] <Seveas> Mez, editing is still broken. Please don't touch
[12:56] <Mez> %rss planetubuntu
[12:56] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[12:56] <jenda> Mez: who requested it, when and what type?
[12:56] <Mez> Seveas, as is planet posts
[12:57] <Seveas> Mez, yes, supybot is crap ehrn it comes to unicode
[12:57] <Mez> jenda, I did, about an hour after the group was approved. and katapult/developer/tvo
[12:57] <jenda> Mez: ok
[12:58] <Mez> jenda, no, he uses dvorak, he's just great at making typos
[12:59] <jenda> hehe
[01:00] <jenda> Mez: it would be neat if you could type dvorak as if you were typing qwerty with your left hand one key to the right...
[01:00] <jenda> Mez: such coordination would be great for pianists, for example :)
[01:01] <jenda> Mez: who approved you GC?
[01:01] <jenda> *GCF
[01:02] <Mez> jenda, for katapult ? PhilKC
[01:02] <jenda> Mez: done.
[01:02] <Mez> GCF ?
[01:02] <Mez> whats the F ?
[01:03] <jenda> form
[01:03] <Mez> then it should have been "your" GCF not "you" :P
[01:03] <jenda> hehe
[01:03] <jenda> *your
[01:03] <Mez> jenda, why did you send me the link to the GRF ?
[01:04] <Mez> GCF *
[01:04] <jenda> Because you asked what GCF was :)
[01:04] <Mez> I knew what GC meant, just not GCF
[01:05] <jenda>
[01:05] <jenda> I felt like making your life a little more difficult.
[01:06] <Mez> jenda, I'm currently on the fruit juice to get rid of the groggy feeling from last night
[01:06] <jenda> hehe
[01:06] <Mez> aha
[01:06] <Mez> i have an idea to get rid of it
[01:07] <ompaul> Mez, water would work better
[01:07] <mc44> alcoholic water
[01:08] <Mez> ompaul, not for me.
[01:08] <ompaul> r u following me mc44 ?
[01:08] <Mez> It's not a hangover, I dont feel like shit... :D
[01:08] <Mez> I had 3/4 drinks last night
[01:08] <Mez> I'm just physically knackered from no sleep and well, lots of dancing
[01:08] <Mez> mc44, is that with or without the sniper rifle
[01:09] <mc44> Mez: with the... banana rifle
[01:15] <Mez> god, this is annoying :D
[01:15] <Mez> A couple of friends are doing a new show on the radio
[01:15] <Mez> and they're playing all my requests just before my message requesting them sends
[01:18] <jenda> ompaul: so who's following :)
[04:53] <PriceChild> Seveas, wondering if there's any news on ubotu?
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> !ping
[04:53] <ubotu> pong
[04:53] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, works, but we can't edit factoids atm....
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Well, it's here now :S
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: aaaaah
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> phooey
[04:53] <PriceChild> Not sure what happens if we try :) I don't wanna try ;)
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: no, ping is <reply>pong, ping, pong, ping, shoot - missed
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: Nothing apparently
[04:55] <LjL> be patient, he's overhaulting the entire codebase basically
[04:55] <LjL> we can live with editing broken for a day or two
[04:56] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Do you know why?  (ie, what's changing?)
[04:56] <PriceChild> Ah I didn't realise it was that big a scale...
[04:57] <LjL> tonyyarusso: i don't think he's *changing* much, from a user-visible point of view, but he's redoing the factoids code... all the features he's added in the last months were kind of hacked into at our requests, and that resulted in bugs and such
[04:57] <LjL> one thing you can already see is that | addressing works with packages too now
[04:57] <LjL> !cowsay | tonyyarusso
[04:57] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: cowsay: A configurable talking cow. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-8 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 268 kB
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> ooo, cool
[04:58] <PriceChild> nice
[04:59] <Minataku> Yeah, I noticed that "!blah is halb" wasn't working
[05:15] <Seveas> factoid editing is already possible
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Oh?  Is there different syntax?
[05:16] <Seveas> no
[05:16] <Seveas> if it's not working I broke something :)
[05:16] <Seveas> which is not too unlikely :)
[05:16] <LjL> !broken is the bot
[05:17] <Seveas> I see dead bots!
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[05:17] <Minataku> lol
[05:17] <LjL> !forget broken
[05:17] <ubotu> I'll forget that, LjL
[05:17] <LjL> !broken is the bot
[05:17] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[05:17] <Seveas> it's broken for unidentified people
[05:17] <LjL> Seveas: works when identified. but when not identified, you get n
[05:17] <LjL> right
[05:17] <LjL> !forget broken
[05:18] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:18] <ubotu> OK
[05:18] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:18] <ubotu> OK
[05:19] <Seveas> !ati-#ubuntu-effects
[05:19] <ubotu> Use the "fglrx" driver if you have a Radion < 9000, X** series or a card with TV-Out capabilities: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - Use the "ati" driver for the Radeon < 8500
[05:19] <Seveas> !ati-#ubuntu-effects
[05:19] <Seveas> !-ati-#ubuntu-effects
[05:19] <ubotu> ati-#ubuntu-effects aliases: fglrx-#ubuntu-effects - added by LjL on 2007-02-02 21:29:16
[05:20] <jenda> Seveas: Radeon, not Radion
[05:20] <LjL> uh?!
[05:20] <LjL> i had corrected that misspell
[05:20] <Seveas> !ati-#ubuntu-effects =~ s/Radion/Radeon/
[05:20] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[05:20] <LjL> i'm sure i did when copying the factoid
[05:20] <jenda> hehe
[05:20] <Seveas> LjL, then I probably overwrote it with the massive import
[05:20] <jenda> LjL: 'tis the conspiracy.
[05:21] <LjL> but it does say added by ljl, and it's not an alias to -xgl like the other ones you did
[05:21] <PriceChild> hmm... I think I spelt something wrong some time back...
[05:21] <PriceChild> !search black
[05:21] <ubotu> Found: blacklist,nothing,blackwindow-#ubuntu-effects,modules,blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:21] <PriceChild> !blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:21] <ubotu>  is Error: unresolvable <alias>
[05:21] <PriceChild> !forget blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:21] <ubotu> I'll forget that, PriceChild
[05:21] <Seveas> fun
[05:21] <PriceChild> ah.... that didn't work in #ubuntu-effects
[05:22] <LjL> i think i just didn't correct it... the rest of the factoid *is* modified by me anyway, it had much less punctuation originally. it's just i distinctly remember noticing that typo and correcting it *shrug*
[05:22] <PriceChild> ah whoops...  I mean apt!
[05:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about bot snack yet, Seveas
[05:25] <Seveas> !no botsnack is <reply> Yum! err... I mean apt!
[05:25] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[05:26] <Seveas> F*ING HELL
[05:26] <Seveas> it keeps on locking
[05:27] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:27] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:27] <ubotu> OK
[05:27] <ubotu> OK
[05:27] <Seveas> Right.  Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[05:28] <Seveas> !!! :)
[05:28] <Seveas> !no foo2 is <alias> seveas
[05:28] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[05:28] <LjL> Seveas: nice :)
[05:28] <PriceChild> hehe
[05:28] <Seveas> Time to close a bunch of bugs
[05:28] <Seveas> !foo2 is also mooooooooooo
[05:28] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[05:28] <Seveas> !foo2
[05:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:28] <ubotu> ooooo
[05:28] <Seveas> ooooh, buglet
[05:29] <PriceChild> Seveas....... I can't delete this one factoid.... :(
[05:30] <Seveas> which?
[05:30] <PriceChild> blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:30] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-bots, LjL said: !broken is the bot
[05:30] <Seveas> !forget blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl yet, Seveas
[05:30] <Seveas> !blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <PriceChild> !search blackwindows
[05:30] <ubotu> Found: blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:30] <Seveas> intriguing
[05:30] <PriceChild> ahh... does it show up in search even if its deleted?
[05:30] <PriceChild> !-blackwindows-#ubutnu-xgl
[05:30] <Seveas> that's very well possible
[05:31] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-bots, LjL said: !forget broken
[05:32] <Seveas> !broken
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:32] <ubotu> OK
[05:33] <PriceChild> !search broken
[05:33] <Seveas> !search broken
[05:33] <ubotu> Found: imap4rev1,rescue,broken
[05:33] <PriceChild> still finds that factoid :)
[05:33] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:33] <Seveas> !search broken
[05:33] <ubotu> OK
[05:33] <ubotu> Found: imap4rev1,rescue,broken*
[05:33] <PriceChild> hehe
[05:33] <Seveas> it now appends a * to deleted factoids
[05:33] <PriceChild> that's cool :)
[05:33] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:33] <ubotu> OK
[05:33] <Seveas> !search broken
[05:33] <ubotu> Found: imap4rev1, rescue, broken*
[05:33] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-bots, LjL said: !broken is me
[05:34] <Seveas> !broken
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Seveas> !broken is LjL
[05:34] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[05:34] <Seveas> damnit
[05:34] <Seveas> !broken
[05:34] <Seveas> !search broken
[05:34] <ubotu> broken is LjL
[05:34] <ubotu> Found: broken, imap4rev1, rescue, broken*
[05:34] <Seveas> fuck
[05:34] <LjL> !language
[05:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:34] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:34] <ubotu> OK
[05:34] <LjL> broken*?
[05:35] <Seveas> there's an issue now
[05:35] <Seveas> PLEASE DON'T EDIT
[05:35] <LjL> k
[05:35] <Seveas> I have to fix some inconsistencies
[05:35] <LjL> %editors
[05:35] <ubotu> Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq, spec, LaserJock, mez, Jucato, trappist, Hawkwind, abattoir, zorglu_, tonyyarusso, elkbuntu, ompaul, PriceChild
[05:35] <LjL> leave factoids alone
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Roger
[05:35] <LjL> (which is a sure way to have them edited, of course :P)
[05:35] <PriceChild> :)
[05:36] <Seveas> !livecd-#ubuntu-effects
[05:36] <ubotu> To try all the Xgl goodness without installing anything try the kororaa livecd @ http://getkororaa.com/
[05:37] <Seveas> is that a good thing to keep?
[05:37] <LjL> not sure, kororaa is maintained not maintained maintained...
[05:37] <Seveas> !livecd-#ubuntu-effects is <reply> To try all the Xgl goodness without installing anything try the kororaa livecd @ http://getkororaa.com/
[05:37] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[05:37] <LjL> but perhaps we can keep it until we have feisty
[05:37] <Seveas> %reload ncyclopedia
[05:37] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:37] <ubotu> OK
[05:38] <Seveas> !broken is the bot
[05:38] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[05:38] <Seveas> !forget broken
[05:38] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Seveas
[05:38] <Seveas> !broken is the bot
[05:38] <ubotu> But broken already means something else!
[05:38] <Seveas> ok, good!
[05:38] <Seveas> !search broken
[05:38] <ubotu> Found: broken*, imap4rev1, rescue
[05:38] <LjL> good?
[05:38] <Seveas> yes, good
[05:38] <PriceChild> ahhh :)
[05:38] <Seveas> deleted factoids are merely marked as deleted, not actually removed
[05:38] <LjL> yes
[05:39] <LjL> so we should still use !no with them?
[05:39] <Seveas> but it used to make factoids with the same name if you'd say !foo is bar and !foo was on deleted
[05:39] <Seveas> now it just spits at you :)
[05:39] <LjL> Seveas: try stealing the sudo database that it uses when you enable the "insults" option in "defaults"
[05:40] <Seveas> hehe
[05:40] <PriceChild> haha.... that's always one of hte first things i enable :P
[05:42] <PriceChild> So are edits allowed again now?
[05:43] <Seveas> yeah
[05:44] <PriceChild> :)
[05:44] <Seveas> !foo2
[05:44] <ubotu> ooooo
[05:44] <Seveas> hmm
[05:44] <Seveas> !-foo2
[05:44] <ubotu> foo2-also has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2007-02-04 17:28:41
[05:45] <Seveas> !foo2-also
[05:45] <ubotu> foo2-also is mooooooooooo
[05:45] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:45] <Seveas> %load Encyclopedia
[05:45] <ubotu> OK
[05:45] <Seveas> !foo2
[05:45] <ubotu> mooooooooooo
[05:45] <Seveas> !forget foo2-also
[05:45] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Seveas
[05:45] <Seveas> !search foo2
[05:45] <ubotu> Found: foo2-also*
[05:45] <Seveas> !foo2-#ubuntu-ops is meh!
[05:45] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[05:46] <Seveas> !foo2
[05:46] <ubotu> foo2-#ubuntu-ops is meh!
[05:46] <ompaul> !mooooooo
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mooooooo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:46] <ompaul> apt-bot search :)
[05:47] <ubotu> OK
[05:47] <ompaul> ?
[05:47] <ompaul> ohh
[05:47] <Seveas> !foo2
[05:47] <ubotu> foo2-#ubuntu-ops is meh!
[05:47] <Seveas> ^&#%($&
[05:47] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:47] <ubotu> OK
[05:47] <Seveas> !foo2
[05:48] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:48] <ubotu> OK
[05:48] <Seveas> !foo2
[05:48] <ubotu> foo2 is meh!
[05:49] <Seveas> !info xmoto | seveas
[05:49] <ubotu> seveas: xmoto: 2D motocross platform game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[05:49] <Seveas> !xmoto | seveas
[05:49] <Seveas> !info xmoto > seveas
[05:50] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[05:50] <ubotu> OK
[05:50] <Seveas> !info xmoto > seveas
[05:55] <ompaul> @now dublin
[05:55] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Dublin: February 04 2007, 16:55:08 - Next meeting: Mozilla Team in 1 day
[05:56] <mc44> "Current time in Europe/Dublin: Guinness Time!"
[06:03] <ompaul> okay, I am Irish, I am in Dublin, but me and Sir Arthur don't get along, therefore I request you leave the alcohol  out of it thanks
[06:05] <ompaul> the person who says drinking it gets kicked although they will be back in a second or three
[06:15] <TheSheep> ompaul: you seem to be very touchy for some reason :(
[06:16] <gnomefreak> thats touchy?
[06:16] <mc44> this is ompaul at his mildest :)
[06:17] <ompaul> mc44, your close, but no cigar
[06:18] <ompaul> now that is risky
[06:18] <TheSheep> anybody for some green tea? :D
[06:18] <gnomefreak> yep drinking it
[06:18] <gnomefreak> iced tea atleast and i have reg. green tea in pantry
[06:18] <mc44> I'll have some early Grey
[06:18] <mc44> *earl
[06:20] <ompaul> I have white, green, black, red teas in the kitchen
[06:20] <ompaul> I will do a red - nice strong one :)
[06:21] <mc44> communist tea!
[06:22] <LjL> !bot
[06:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:22] <LjL> !bot | tonyyarusso
[06:22] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: please see above
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> a sec
[06:22] <LjL> bwaha
[06:22] <LjL> tonyyarusso, it's the bot :P
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> You're harassing me by proxy now?    But cool!
[06:23] <LjL> tonyyarusso: remember? we talked about this
[06:23] <nixternal> Seveas: ping (concerning a cloak for new Kubuntu member(s))
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> LjL: thanks
[06:23] <LjL> thank sev
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> I will when he looks active
[06:24] <Seveas> nixternal, people who want cloaks should ping me
[06:24] <nixternal> roger Seveas
[06:24] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[06:24] <ubotu> OK
[06:25] <nixternal> manchicken should be joining here shortly to ping you
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Thanks for the feature :)
[06:25] <Amaranth> Seveas: can you add me as an editor?
[06:25] <nixternal> oooh, what feature?
[06:25] <gnomefreak> i guess he was accepted?
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: see above just a tad
[06:26] <Amaranth> ooh, neat
[06:26] <Amaranth> !love
[06:26] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:26] <Amaranth> !love | Amaranth
[06:26] <LjL> heh
[06:26] <Amaranth> wtf
[06:26] <Seveas> hmm
[06:26] <Seveas> that's broken
[06:26] <Amaranth> it PM'ed me
[06:26] <Seveas> ah, yeah
[06:26] <LjL> Seveas: not if it pmd
[06:26] <Seveas> LjL, watch
[06:26] <Amaranth> !love | LjL
[06:26] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[06:26] <ubotu> LjL: Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:26] <ubotu> OK
[06:26] <Amaranth> aww
[06:26] <Seveas> !love
[06:26] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:26] <Seveas> !love | Amaranth
[06:26] <ubotu> Amaranth: please see above
[06:26] <Amaranth> neat
[06:27] <Seveas> yes
[06:27] <Seveas> I rock
[06:27] <LjL> :P
[06:27] <TheSheep> I scissors
[06:27] <Amaranth> what if i say !sudo then 20 minutes later someone asks and I say !sudo | foouser
[06:27] <gnomefreak> sweet
[06:27] <Amaranth> I paper
[06:27] <Seveas> Amaranth, cache is 30 seconds
[06:27] <LjL> Amaranth: it's just a couple of seconds
[06:27] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[06:27] <ubotu> OK
[06:27] <Seveas> Amaranth, this is also nice:
[06:27] <Seveas> !no mp3 is <alias> seveas
[06:27] <ubotu> You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[06:27] <Amaranth> neat
[06:28] <TheSheep> Seveas: it could count the lines on the channel instead of time ;)
[06:28] <Amaranth> no
[06:28] <manchicken> Seveas: nixternal says I should ping you for a cloak.
[06:28] <Amaranth> time is better
[06:28] <Seveas> manchicken, nixternal is right :)
[06:28] <manchicken> ^_^
[06:28] <Seveas> manchicken, what is your launchpad id?
[06:28] <Amaranth> !no mp3 is <alias> seveas
[06:28] <manchicken> manchicken
[06:28] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, oFF-beAt said: ubotu, love is what?
[06:28] <Amaranth> wth
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:29] <Seveas> Amaranth, yeah, A bug I need to fix
[06:29] <manchicken> heh
[06:29] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Spec said: !what is love
[06:29] <LjL> mc44: stop giving -offtopic ideas :P
[06:29] <mc44> LjL: they usually just ignore me
[06:29] <LjL> as well they should :P
[06:30] <Seveas> !staff
[06:30] <nixternal> hey, I am right for once :)
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about staff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <Seveas> !staff is <reply> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob or SportChick! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:30] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[06:30] <nixternal> tonyyarusso: I searched above for the new feature and I seen !broke, !love, !foo-#ubuntu-ops and such :)
[06:30] <Amaranth> Seveas: ooh, on-demand pestering of all the staff
[06:30] <Seveas> yeah
[06:30] <jenda> hehe :)
[06:30] <Seveas> !forget staff
[06:30] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Seveas
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: It was the !bot followed by !bot | tonyyarusso, tonyyarusso: see above
[06:31] <Seveas> !staff-#ubuntu-ops is <reply> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob or SportChick! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:31] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[06:31] <Amaranth> !broke
[06:31] <Seveas> jenda, can you please cloak manchicken
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <Amaranth> wow, laggy
[06:31] <jenda> Seveas: gotcha
[06:31] <LjL> Seveas: this will also become known as the "/kill myself" factoid
[06:31] <Seveas> Amaranth, no, it does apt-cache search ;)
[06:31] <Seveas> LjL, ;)
[06:31] <Amaranth> Seveas: it should search by name only
[06:32] <manchicken> I was a bit chili
[06:32] <manchicken> Seveas: Must I do this every time I log into IRC?
[06:33] <Seveas> manchicken, no
[06:33] <Amaranth> Total Distinct Descriptions: 21207 (509k)
[06:33] <mc44> LjL: haha, so much more fun than !op s :)
[06:33] <nixternal> jenda or Seveas has Jucato gotten with either of you about a cloak as well?
[06:33] <Amaranth> that means 21207 source packages, right?
[06:34] <Amaranth> oh, no
[06:34] <Seveas> nixternal, yes
[06:34] <nixternal> ya I guess he did, his info shows his cloak
[06:34] <Amaranth> jenda? why him?
[06:34] <nixternal> rock on Seveas, any help that I may offer, you know where to ping me
[06:34] <Amaranth> i thought you had to talk to Seveas then he talked to staff
[06:36] <Seveas> @config plugins.bugtracker.replywhennotfound
[06:36] <Ubugtu> False
[06:36] <Seveas> @config plugins.bugtracker.replywhennotfound True
[06:36] <LjL> mc44: well, if you type !ops, i ban you and you complain, i can tell you to come to #ubuntu-ops and type !staff. which is still fun.
[06:36] <mc44> LjL: hehe
[06:37] <Seveas> @reload Bugtracker
[06:37] <Seveas> bug 234567890-
[06:37] <Seveas> bug 234567890
[06:37] <Seveas> good
[06:37] <Seveas> @config plugins.bugtracker.replywhennotfound False
[06:37] <Seveas> bug<PHONE_NUMBER>2
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> bug how many?
[06:37] <Seveas> @config plugins.bugtracker.replywhennotfound True
[06:37] <Seveas> bug<PHONE_NUMBER>23
[06:37] <LjL> bug 65535
[06:37] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65535 in xen-3.0 "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader missing in recent update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65535
[06:39] <jenda> nixternal: not me
[06:39] <nixternal> jenda: pm?
[06:39] <jenda> sure
[06:39] <jenda> nixternal: anytime.
[06:41] <SportChick> Seveas: did you get taken care of?
[06:41] <Seveas> yes
[06:41] <Seveas> jenda found my straightjacket
[06:42] <SportChick> hehe
[06:42] <SportChick> cool
[06:42] <SportChick> bbl then
[06:47] <Seveas> @reload Webcal
[06:47] <Seveas> @now
[06:47] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: February 04 2007, 17:47:27 - Next meeting: Mozilla Team in 1 day
[06:47] <Seveas> @now amsterdam
[06:47] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Amsterdam: February 04 2007, 18:47:34 - Next meeting: Mozilla Team in 1 day
[06:47] <Seveas> @now new york
[06:47] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/New_York: February 04 2007, 12:47:40 - Next meeting: Mozilla Team in 1 day
[06:47] <Seveas> yay, fixed
[06:47] <PriceChild> Someone's on a roll :)
[06:48] <Seveas> yeah, fixed quite a few botbugs
[06:51] <PriceChild> Seveas, could you unignore tsmithe please? :)
[06:51] <PriceChild> (from ubotu)
[06:51] <Seveas> %admin ignore remove tsmithe
 Error: tsmithe!n=tsmithe@unaffiliated/tsmithe wasn't in the ignores database.
[06:51] <Seveas> %admin ignored
[06:52] <Seveas> %admin ignore remove tsmithe!*@*
[06:52] <ubotu> OK
[06:52] <PriceChild> Thankyou :)
[06:52] <tsmithe> thank you :)
[06:54] <ompaul> well actually that was saying something
[06:54] <ompaul> and in fact as those divas of 80s pop bananarama would have said, it was "really saying something"
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ubugtu seems to be showing us bugs that i have just rejected
[06:57] <Seveas> where?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> btw these are older bugs.
[06:57] <gnomefreak> in #ubuntu-mozilateam
[06:57] <Seveas> hmm
[06:58] <Seveas> did you assign them to mozillateam whilst rejecting?
[06:58] <Seveas> or correct the product?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[06:58] <gnomefreak> might have ill keep a better eye on it
[07:03] <gnomefreak> nope its not linked to that at all
[07:04] <gnomefreak> its doing it on rejected or fixed release
[07:06] <Seveas> can you please poke me *before* you close a bug and give th bugnumber
[07:07] <gnomefreak> crap yeah next one
[07:07] <gnomefreak> i just closed bug 65740
[07:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65740 in firefox "*** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin terminated" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65740
[07:07] <gnomefreak> it hasnt shown up in that channel yet
[07:09] <Seveas> gnime bug 5
[07:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 5 in rosetta "Plone Placeless Translation Service metadata missing from po files" [Wishlist,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5
[07:10] <Seveas> gnome bug 5
[07:10] <Seveas> gnome bug 5000
[07:10] <Seveas> gnome bug 50000
[07:10] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 50000 in Bugzilla "We're now in the 50000er number space" [Normal,Resolved: notabug]  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50000
[07:11] <Seveas> openoffice bug 5
[07:11] <Seveas> openoffice bug 500
[07:11] <Ubugtu> OpenOffice.org bug 500 in www "Add this to the faq" [Task,Resolved: fixed]  http://openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=500
[07:15] <apokryphos> @Bugtracker list openoffice
[07:15] <Ubugtu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org, http://www.openoffice.org/issues [Issuezilla]
[07:15] <apokryphos> ah, issuezilla. Hadn't ever heard of that :O
[07:17] <Seveas> gnewsense bug q
[07:17] <Seveas> gnewsense bug 1
[07:17] <Ubugtu> gNewSense bug 1 in General "Not all software is Free" [Importance 2,Open]  http://bugs.gnewsense.org/Bugs/00001
[07:18] <apokryphos> @Bugtracker list gnewsense
[07:18] <Ubugtu> gnewsense: gNewSense, http://bugs.gnewsense.org/Bugs [WikiForms]
[07:18] <apokryphos> hm. /me thinks Bugzilla should be a standard =)
[07:19] <jenda> Seveas: gnewsense is using Ubugtu?
[07:19] <Seveas> a copy of him
[07:19] <Seveas> gNonSense
[07:19] <jenda> woo :)
[07:19] <jenda> sweet.
[07:20] <jenda> and the others are copies of ubotu and ubuntulog?
[07:21] <Seveas> gNoSense is ubotu
[07:21] <Seveas> don't know about any others
[07:23] <jenda> alright
[07:24] <jenda> there's also GnewSense...
[07:36] <apokryphos> hm, what happened with +J?
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: turns out it doesn't do netsplits right, from my observation
[07:38] <apokryphos> it's meant to support netsplits really well
[07:38] <apokryphos> what time are we talking here?
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> yesterday
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> last night
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> Around 2:45 AM UTC-5.
[07:42] <apokryphos> hm, odd.
[07:43] <apokryphos> there's no other big channel that doesn't have it enabled. Must see what happens there, but I've poked bearperson to ask, too.
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> all right
[07:56] <apokryphos> to repeat myself: it was due to a server crash (not so great at +J) but they appear to happen around once a month, so I think we should consider leaving it enabled
[07:59] <nalioth> to J or not to J, that is the question
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> L!
[08:00] <apokryphos> +X. You do NOT want to know what that does
[08:01] <nalioth> when is our irc meeting?
[08:01] <apokryphos> !topic
[08:01] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:01] <apokryphos> :P
[08:01] <nalioth> i never enter.
[08:01] <apokryphos> I honestly don't think I can make 5AM. Crazy.
[08:01] <nalioth> apokryphos: it's 5am UTC
[08:02] <apokryphos> I'm UTC
[08:02] <apokryphos> (at the moment, anyway)
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Experimental?  Not that exciting.
[08:02] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: I didn't actually knew it existed
[08:03] <apokryphos> *know
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: :P  Now you do.
[08:03] <nalioth> yes, beware the +X
[08:04] <apokryphos> makes your IRC client evaporate
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> ha, not quite
[08:06] <apokryphos> nalioth: do you know about plain dcc sends in the channel not always kicking users? (where CTCP might)
[08:07] <apokryphos> we had a guy where this was the case yesterday. Just means that in tests we have to do it with ctcp too
[08:07] <nalioth> apokryphos: i suspect the /ctcp sends hit the users right square in the middle of a crap client
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: It was port-dependant.
[08:08] <apokryphos> yeah, it appeared to be the same issue
[08:08] <apokryphos> just their router didn't break-out on the plain string occurrence
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Usermode settings in irssi are /umode +whatever aren't they?
[08:12] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: yes, but be careful
[08:13] <nalioth> if you /umode [something you're not allowed]  the system might take offense
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> heh
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: I was considering +b
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> (Just noticed it in the dancer doc)
[08:14] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: most of those are for staff use
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: right
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Uh oh.  I think we just duplicated all of each others bans.  :S
[08:20] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: hm, only a few it seems though
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> okay, good
[08:20] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: they're exploit victims, so instead of throwing them back in we can tell them in there
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: What do you mean?
[08:21] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: about -unregged
[08:21] <apokryphos> Moddeh: join #apokryphos for a test please
[08:21] <Moddeh> Okey
[08:22] <Moddeh> Shall I leave here now?
[08:22] <apokryphos> Moddeh: ok, you're good to go.
[08:22] <Moddeh> Okey =]
[08:22] <Moddeh> Everythings good then?
[08:22] <apokryphos> right
[08:22] <Moddeh> Thanks for telling me about this, I wouldn't have known my router was vuln if I hadn't of read it here!
[08:23] <apokryphos> np =)
[08:24] <nalioth> apokryphos: are you double-dog-daring now? (both in-channel test and /ctcp test) ?
[08:25] <apokryphos> hm, I wish we had an exploit victim to test with actually
[08:25] <apokryphos> i.e. just one that got caught out by the inchannel msg
[08:25] <apokryphos> though I guess for all the ones kicked these days we can do just the /ctcp one (since that's how they quit)
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> cablesm102: YOu can join ##tonyyarusso for a test
[08:26] <cablesm102> What just happened? I can't get into #ubuntu any more... it's forwarding to something about a router problem...
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> cablesm102: Follow the instructions in the topic of the other channel, and then I'll test you.
[08:27] <cablesm102> got it, thanks
[08:28] <Seveas> SportChick, ?
[08:29] <SportChick> Seveas: you hilighted me earlier :)
[08:29] <jenda> he loves doing that.
[08:29] <Seveas> heh
[08:29] <Seveas> that was for a cloak
[08:29] <Seveas> jenda took care of it
[08:29] <SportChick> Seveas: but I didn't read what it was about, as i was ircing on my phone while in church - once you said you had been handled, I turned if off again :)
[08:30] <Seveas> (or else h'll be shot)
[08:30] <jenda> :)
[08:31] <SportChick> hehe, I got a get well e-card :)
[08:31] <jenda> ooh :)
[08:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> o.O
[08:57] <ompaul> gnewsense bug 48
[08:57] <Ubugtu> gNewSense bug 48 in Main "Kaffeine links to non-free codecs" [Importance 3,Wontfix]  http://bugs.gnewsense.org/Bugs/00048
[08:57] <ompaul> exactly
[08:57] <mc44> haha
[08:58] <ompaul> full fog lights only
[08:58] <ompaul> or some such
[08:59] <mc44> MacD drive through eh, ompaul ? :_
[09:01] <ompaul> ehh no -
[09:03] <jenda> woohoo
[09:03] <jenda> malt is back
[09:03] <ompaul> several hotels, cafes, chinese, italian, irish pubs (funny that), all serving reasonable food
[09:10] <Minataku> Hey, is this jhutchins guy a chanop for *buntu?
[09:10] <Minataku> Because he's being incredibly rude towards me
[09:10] <fdoving> not that i'm aware of.
[09:11] <Minataku> He's strutting around like he owns the place
[09:11] <Minataku> I've asked him once to not PRIVMSG me and he's done so twice now afterwards
[09:11] <fdoving>  /ignore is nice.
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> lol...one of our exploit victims seems to have added ##tonyyarusso to his autojoin
[09:12] <fdoving> tonyyarusso: your own fanclub. :)
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> :)
[09:13] <Minataku> fdoving: I just did so, but it would be a good idea to prevent anyone from thinking he's a staff member considering his rudeness
[09:14] <fdoving> it's allowed to express personal opinions on where the offtopic line should be drawn.
[09:15] <Minataku> He should not, however, be allowed to make demands of any user without the authority to
[09:15] <fdoving> tollerance is a two way thing.
[09:16] <fdoving> tolerance, that is.
[09:19] <Minataku> Well my primary comment was his rudeness regarding the situation
[09:19] <Minataku> Which isn't the *buntu spirit
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: I thought the bot was fixed?  Won't let me edit.
[09:22] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: are you identified to it?
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Probably not, but it didn't give the old non-id error
[09:23] <gnomefreak> %whoami
[09:23] <ubotu> gnomefreak
[09:23] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: try that
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: worked
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> weird
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: On non-identified, just looks at you funny instead of doing something intelligent.
[09:24] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, what was your edit attempt?
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: On teg, changing the server.
[09:24] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, the exact line please
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: First tried teg =~ /yarusso.no-ip.org/www.tonyyarusso.com/
[09:25] <Seveas> that gave the funny error?!
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: The I'm only a bot, don't think I'm intelligent.
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> So I typed the whole thing out, no, teg is <reply> Come play teg with us!  (Like the board game Risk.)  Game will start when we get some players rounded up - get yourself set up and join quickly if you'd like to participate.  Install the "teg" package, run 'tegclient', and connect to server www.tonyyarusso.com, , port 2000.  Ping tonyyarusso for more info.
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> same thing
[09:25] <Seveas> weiiiiirrdd
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> Identified, did the second one, worked fine.
[09:26] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[09:26] <ubotu> OK
[09:26] <Seveas> please do %unidentify and try editing
[09:27] <Amaranth> !test is test
[09:27] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, Amaranth said: !test is test
[09:27] <Amaranth> aww
[09:27] <ubotu> In ubotu, tonyyarusso said: no, foo is <reply> looky looky Seveas!
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> good
[09:28] <Amaranth> so, uh, can i be an editor again?
[09:29] <Seeker`> tonyyarusso: How often do you play teg?
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: Varies.
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: I can leave the server running when I'm not around if you like.
[09:30] <Seeker`> i've never played it before
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: Play the other two and try it out :)
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> it's easy enough
[09:31] <Seeker`> i'm just installing the teg package, but its going a bit slowly - 15k / sec
[09:31] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, I just connected and no-one online :(
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: Talk to Amaranth, Seeker`, and winter-1
[09:32] <Seeker`> PriceChild: You played before?
[09:32] <PriceChild> Seeker`, not Teg
[09:32] <Amaranth> ooh
[09:32] <Amaranth> i want to PLAY!
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: connected
[09:32] <PriceChild> Although I play a mean game of Risk :P
[09:33] <Seeker`> i think i'm connected
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: yep
[09:33] <PriceChild> one more.....?
[09:33] <Amaranth> brb
[09:33] <Amaranth> changed the theme
[09:34] <Seeker`> if i click "view players" i dont see anything
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: I think you can do that without quitting...
[09:34] <Amaranth> yeah but someone is there
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: wait for it.
[09:34] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: it said i had to restart it
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> I can see you all ;)
[09:34] <Seeker`> ok
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: huh, ok
[09:34] <Amaranth> i'm seeing pricechild, Seeker`, and me
[09:34] <PriceChild> same
[09:34] <Amaranth> you have to go into the preferences and tell it to show things
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> not sure if the other is coming, you could start.
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> wait
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> ohp
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> nvm
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> jrib was going to come, but he can join the next one
[09:36] <Seeker`> apparently i am disconnected
[09:36] <apokryphos> Seveas: so shall we set +J?
[09:37] <Seveas> apokryphos, no
[09:37] <Seveas> the +J wreaked havoc earlier on and noone paid attention
[09:37] <apokryphos> Seveas: why? Server crashes are rare?
[09:37] <Seveas> I mlocked #ubuntu to -J again
[09:37] <apokryphos> I can see
[09:37] <Seveas> erlier on as in earlier today
[09:37] <apokryphos> yeah, I know; see conversation in -unregged
[09:37] <apokryphos> it was a server crash
[09:38] <apokryphos> (which happens around once a month)
[09:43] <Seeker`> is there a channel where someone could tell me what to od?
[09:43] <apokryphos> sorry?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> what to od?
[09:44] <mc44> *do?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> to do for what?
[09:44] <apokryphos> Seveas: once a month is really quite good. We're getting really heavily hit these days; and like I said, every other major channel has it enabled.
[09:44] <Seeker`> the game
[09:44] <gnomefreak> od == game?
[09:45] <mc44> od = dp, game implied :p
[09:45] <mc44> s/dp/do
[09:45] <gnomefreak> what game
[09:45] <Minataku> What is CHMODE +J ?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> than
[09:45] <Minataku> This IRCd has a retarded help system
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Minataku: it restrictes joins
[09:45] <Minataku> Ah... that's incredibly redundant
[09:45] <mc44> gnomefreak: I guess he means teg for the game
[09:45] <Seeker`> teg
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Minataku: stops most bot flood attacks
[09:46] <gnomefreak> teg in the repos teg?
[09:46] <apokryphos> Minataku: /msg ubotu umode
[09:46] <Minataku> gnomefreak: I guess it is faster than setting +b *!*@*
[09:46] <Minataku> Or +i
[09:46] <apokryphos> Seeker`: why are you asking in here?
[09:46] <Minataku> Well, not +i
[09:46] <gnomefreak> http://teg.sourceforge.net
[09:46] <Minataku> Of course +i would retain the ability for known good/trusted users to be let in
[09:46] <gnomefreak> there might be a #teg channel
[09:47] <Seveas> apokryphos, ok, but please take care of -unregged
[09:47] <stormy|> am I having this problem with my router still?
[09:47] <apokryphos> Minataku: that is not even close to an option with a channel that big.
[09:47] <Seveas> (that holds for all ops)
[09:47] <gnomefreak> Minataku: +1 is invite only
[09:47] <apokryphos> Seveas: yeah, we'll encourage people to idle in there
[09:47] <Minataku> gnomefreak: Why is this damn network so ~ backwards-ass?!
[09:47] <gnomefreak> is it closing ot just got opened
[09:47] <gnomefreak> Minataku: why is the other network backwards
[09:48] <Minataku> Uh, Freenode seems to completely ~ all over established RFCs for the IRC protocol
[09:48] <apokryphos> %editors
[09:48] <ubotu> Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq, spec, LaserJock, mez, Jucato, trappist, Hawkwind, abattoir, zorglu_, tonyyarusso, elkbuntu, ompaul, PriceChild
[09:48] <apokryphos> We are setting +J, which doesn't work in the only case that the server crashes. So please hang in -unregged for the case that this does happen (should be around once a month, though)
[09:48] <Seveas> Minataku, please behave
[09:48] <Minataku> I am
[09:49] <stormy|> I just got forwarded to 'ubuntu-read-topic'... I changed my connection and followed the page's instructions... it said to come here to test if I  fixed it...
[09:49] <PriceChild> Hmm not in there actually :S
[09:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:49] <apokryphos> Minataku: this channel is for operators or for appealing an action. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion.
[09:49] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: its on one of my join alias'
[09:49] <Seveas> stormy|, please join #stormtest
[09:50] <Minataku> Sorry, I'll stop
[09:50] <gnomefreak> and #freenode-social for freenode topics
[09:50] <PriceChild> I always used to be there... will add it again :)
[09:50] <apokryphos> Seveas: since /ctcp somenick works, we can always do tests that way
[09:50] <Seveas> stormy| is not fixed yet :)
[09:50] <Seveas> hi stormy|
[09:50] <apokryphos> stormy|: reconnect on port 8001
[09:51] <Seveas> it's not fixed yet, you were again disconnected
[09:51] <stormy|> I typed 'chat.freenode.net/8001' like it said... it doesn't do anything
[09:51] <Seveas> stormy|, which client do you use?
[09:51] <stormy|> Xchat
[09:51] <apokryphos> !dcc
[09:51] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[09:51] <Seveas> stormy|, in the menu, go to xchat -> network list
[09:52] <Seveas> stormy|, in the network list, select "Ubuntu Servers" and click edit
[09:52] <Seveas> then select a server and click edit
[09:52] <stormy|> Let me try restarting xchat
[09:55] <nalioth> access #ubuntu-overflow add tonyyarusso 10
[09:56] <Seveas> nalioth, why on earth *another* channel?!?
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> what's that one for?
[09:58] <Seveas> no idea
[09:58] <gnomefreak> me neither
[09:58] <nalioth> if we're gonna have join throttling, -unregged is misnamed
[09:58] <Seveas> it's rather useless to have more
[09:58] <Seveas> nalioth, so? what's in a name...
[09:59] <Seveas> we do +r as well
[09:59] <mc44> if it were unnregged would it not smell as sweet?
[10:00] <apokryphos> a few people have been confused about "unregged", overflow might be more catching, but I don't think it matters much
[10:01] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-HAHAyougotthrownhere is fine for me :)
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> lol
[10:03] <apokryphos> anyhow, we obviously can't have both channels. #ubuntu can only be +f to one
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> right
[10:03] <nalioth> it exists. access is mirrored from -unregged.
[10:03] <nalioth> do as you wish  :)
[10:04] <nalioth> nobody has to use it
[10:04] <LjL> Seveas: found out why i couldn't join -unregged before anyway? is it related to the havoc-that-nobody-noticed you were talking about before?
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> all members have access in -unregged?  didn't know that
[10:04] <apokryphos> LjL: it was set +i for some time
[10:04] <LjL> that's what i thought
[10:05] <LjL> i'm pretty sure i -i'd yesterday night
[10:05] <apokryphos> you can always /cs invite #channel if someone has forgotten to -i though
[10:06] <LjL> yeah well i didn't know if it were +i by mistake or if you were doing something on it, so i just told seveas
[10:37] <joejaxx> anyone here have extensive knowledge of ubugtu?
[10:37] <maxamillion> PriceChild: you around?
[10:37] <maxamillion> errrr..
[10:38] <maxamillion> PriceChild: ping
[10:38] <PriceChild> hey maxamillion
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: "just ask your question" ;)
[10:38] <maxamillion> PriceChild: any projected time for the forums to be back up or is that something only ubuntugeek knows?
[10:38] <joejaxx> well i am trying to figure out how to enable bugtracking
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: For a particular channel you mean?
[10:39] <PriceChild> maxamillion, I didn't even know they were down :)
[10:39] <PriceChild> maxamillion, Give it 5 minutes :)
[10:39] <maxamillion> PriceChild: lol
[10:39] <maxamillion> PriceChild: ok, thanks
[10:39] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: on the actual bot
[10:40] <PriceChild> maxamillion, I'm not sure what this one is... its not the "secret" thing....
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: Like, at all?  The owner has to do that.
[10:40] <PriceChild> maxamillion, I'm guessing its a cpu upgrade...
[10:40] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: i mean on a bot that has the same plugin
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Ubugtu: config plugins.bugsnarfer
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> err
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Ubugtu: config plugin.bugsnarfer
[10:40] <joejaxx> Ubugtu: config plugins.bugtracker
[10:41] <Ubugtu> True
[10:41] <maxamillion> PriceChild: oh ok, cool cool ... i was just wondering because i am sitting at work trying to avoid coding and/or doing homework :)
[10:41] <PriceChild> lol :)
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> bah
[10:41] <PriceChild> maxamillion, and we're back :)
[10:41] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: it is enabled and i have bugsnarfing enabled
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: If false, add True at the end of the line
[10:41] <maxamillion> PriceChild: sweet!!! ...
[10:42] <maxamillion> PriceChild: are the forums run off a cluster or just one uber server?
[10:42] <PriceChild> maxamillion, to pm?
[10:42] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: it is true by default :)
[10:42] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: i have it enabled which is why i am wondering what i am missing
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: enable it for the channel
[10:43] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: i did that as well
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> um
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> that's it?
[10:49] <joejaxx> tonyyarusso: ?
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> joejaxx: No idea
[10:50] <joejaxx> oh ok
[10:52] <joejaxx> maybe i will ask Sev--eas when he comes around
[11:05] <Seveas> joejaxx, ?
[11:06] <joejaxx> Seveas: oh i was wondering what else i had to configure to enable the bugtracking
[11:06] <Seveas> joejaxx, are you using ubugtu?
[11:06] <joejaxx> Seveas: i already set the s.p.b.bugsnarfer.#channel to true
[11:06] <joejaxx> Seveas: no a seperate bot
[11:07] <Seveas> joejaxx, make sure you have the latest code (changed recently), it's easier to use, documented and bugs are fixed :)
[11:07] <joejaxx> ahh ok :)
[11:07] <joejaxx> let me grab that hold on
[11:10] <Seveas> joejaxx, rev. 43 is the latest
[11:13] <joejaxx> Seveas: it seems i have revision 43
[11:14] <Seveas> joejaxx, then you just did bzr pull ;)
[11:14] <Seveas> (I committed that revision minutes ago)
[11:15] <joejaxx> lol you are right i read that wrong
[11:29] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, who is the official TEG championship leader at the moment?
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: We haven't been keeping track.  We should really do something more organized some time.
[11:30] <PriceChild> Ok... so lets say whoever won the latest game is the championship leader from now on....? :P
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> haha
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> Should we wiki it?
[11:31] <PriceChild> lol
[11:32] <LjL> *ahem* i've muted yipe in -offtopic... just so you know..
[11:32] <LjL> was talking about a dream where he had sex with his sister :| when mc44 told him to stop, he gave him the usual "shut up"
[11:33] <PriceChild> :O
[11:33] <PriceChild> You just don't admit to those things... nevermind in an irc channel
[11:34] <Seveas> LjL, ok, yip is sarching for the limits again. He's found them
[11:35] <joejaxx> Seveas: ok i loaded them back up
[11:38] <yipe> I'm grossed out too!
[11:38] <yipe> I just needed to vent it out, before it drove me insane :(
[11:38] <yipe> jesus, if you knew how sick I'd felt today....
[11:38] <LjL> gee there are a thousand things i'd like to vent out and that are driving me insane
[11:38] <LjL> i just don't say them all in -offtopic
[11:38] <Seveas> yipe, *you* are driving us insane
[11:38] <Seveas> so it's time to stop it
[11:39] <Seveas> which w forcefuly did since no other way seems possible
[11:39] <yipe> :(
[11:39] <yipe> LjL, you should
[11:40] <yipe> Seveas, only ops seemed to have a problem
[11:40] <LjL> no i don't think i should, if there are rules i respect them, if i want to vent them out, i find places where i'm supposed to
[11:40] <LjL> what makes you think that
[11:40] <Seveas> yipe, #ubuntu-offtopic is not your personal help center
[11:40] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, this is the last time
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Good
[11:40] <Seveas> yipe will not be allowed back in
[11:40] <maxamillion> yipe: yes, ops would have a problem because it is our job to keep the channels a place where everyone can feel comfortable visiting and your conduct was out of line
[11:41] <linux_kid> I am here to report yipe.  He sent me a message stating " I told about a nightmare I had wherein I had s*x with my little sister, EWWWW!"  (i censored it)
[11:41] <linux_kid> if you want the screenshot, i can do that
[11:41] <LjL> we know that linux_kid
[11:41] <LjL> that's the reason he's muted
[11:41] <nalioth> linux_kid: you're too late.
[11:41] <LjL> (almost)
[11:42] <yipe> you asshole, you asked what was going on, you liar
[11:42] <LjL> !coc
[11:42] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:42] <linux_kid> An now yipe is saying, "don't worry, I had a nice stomach emptying session earlier this morning when I suddenly remembered over breakfast what I had seen in my dreams"
[11:42] <linux_kid> ban him, he's ready for the superbowl too early
[11:42] <Seveas> linux_kid, please sto
[11:42] <Seveas> stop
[11:43] <yipe> slander and lies, linux_kid, you ASKED what I had been talking about, if you didn't want to know, dont' ask!
[11:43] <Seveas> we know how to run these channels
[11:43] <yipe> bastard
[11:43] <Seveas> yipe, you're now muted in here as well
[11:43] <Seveas> I suggest you close your irc client and take a walk
[11:43] <Seveas> relax. calm down.
[11:43] <linux_kid> thank you Seveas, you are a good op
[11:43] <LjL> linux_kid, i'm not sure you should turn the knife in the wound this way, to be honest...
[11:44] <LjL> anyway.
[11:44] <nalioth> yipe, go take your dog for a walk
[11:44] <Seveas> he should not
[11:44] <nalioth> linux_kid: we are aware of yipes actions, as he shared with the whole channel
[11:44] <Seveas> linux_kid, please leave this channel if you have no other things to discuss
[11:44] <linux_kid> I am deeply sorry for questioning your authority
[11:44] <linux_kid> ok, goodbye
[11:45] <LjL> now what was !o4o called for again
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> linux_kid is getting to be an interesting character himself
[11:46] <joejaxx> Seveas: you would not mind joining #fluxbuntu would you?
[11:46] <Seveas> one sec
[11:46] <joejaxx> alright
[11:46] <Seveas> trying to defuse -offtopic
[11:47] <joejaxx> yeah i forgot about that sorry
[11:47] <joejaxx> :)
[12:06] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, jwtod1 said: ubotu ... what is the apt pattern for the accompanying -dev packages?
[12:15] <Amaranth> 'what is' and 'how is' or anything ending with a '?' should make ubotu throw up a message saying "Sorry, I'm just a bot." or something
[12:17] <LjL> Amaranth: it does - or did, anyway
[12:17] <LjL> Seveas: ^
[12:17] <Seveas> LjL, no, it only looked at 'length of factoid' not at contents
[12:17] <Seveas> but it's a good idea
[12:18] <LjL> Seveas: oh right, there being the "is"... sorry =)
[12:18] <LjL> but yeah i guess blacklist "what" and "how" and such
[12:18] <Seveas> yeah
[12:18] <Seveas> but not now, bedtime :)
[12:18] <Seveas> so file a bug :p
[12:18] <LjL> night
[12:18] <LjL> k :P
[12:18] <PriceChild> Seveas sleeps? :O
[12:19] <LjL> he said he's going to bed
[12:19] <LjL> never said he would sleep
[12:19] <PriceChild> ahhhh
[12:19] <PriceChild> :)
[12:19] <LjL> he'll code python on a piece of paper, for all i know
[12:19] <PriceChild> lol
[12:20] <Seveas> my fiancee is not with me, so besides sleeping there's nothing useful to do in bed
[12:20] <mc44> he dreams of electronic sheep
[12:20] <Seveas> LjL: laptop :)
[12:20] <LjL> PriceChild: you know what, that's quite an idea
[12:20] <maxamillion> lol
[12:21] <PriceChild> imortalised forever in ubugtu..... :P
[12:28] <Seveas> LjL, keep an eye on apaulm in -offtopic


[05:39] <Mirv> bregma: it seems even the newest 14.04 LTS compiz update is stopped :( http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html I remember the last time there was a big line of Problems, now after the blacklist adding there's just one
[05:39] <Mirv> bregma: but you'll need to chat with release team on how to proceed if it's wanted to be spread
[07:42] <Mirv> Saviq: tsdgeos: I've made a sidenote about https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109756 - do you plan to "formally" ask me about landing it, or is the plan still to rather backport the bigger Provider part?
[07:43] <tsdgeos> Mirv: no because we asked you to land the bigger async provider part (or did we not?)
[07:43] <Saviq> we did
[07:44] <Saviq> bug #1439263
[07:44] <Mirv> tsdgeos: you haven't really, the bug #1439263 mentions it should be backported and as a comment it's mentioned that that MP brings fix for http stalling without anything else, but there's no clear asking what to do
[07:45] <Saviq> Mirv, what else do you want us to write? :D
[07:46] <Mirv> Saviq: like, whether to take https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/108540/ or https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109756 :)
[07:46] <Mirv> since now both are mentioned in the same bug
[07:46] <Saviq> Mirv, my bad wording
[07:47] <Saviq> Mirv, because we don't have a separate bug for http stalling
[07:47] <Mirv> Saviq: oh, so both would be needed? I somehow thought thet asyncprovider would solve the problem.
[07:47] <Saviq> Mirv, updated the comment ;)
[07:47] <Mirv> ok, so no both :)
[07:47] <Saviq> Mirv, no :)
[07:48] <Mirv> clear! I'll start a landing for that + the thumbnailer branch
[07:50] <tsdgeos> Mirv: wait wait, the thumbnailer branch is not ready
[07:50] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I know it's not ready, I'm not going to _land_ it
[07:51] <Mirv> just rebasing/testing the qtdeclarative part
[07:51] <Mirv> tsdgeos: perks of being on the landing team, silos for free! :)
[07:51] <tsdgeos> k
[08:02] <Mirv> weird, that yesterday's unity8 landing that the PPA decided to show complete qml-phone-shell changelog for...
[08:02] <Mirv> if it happens again there must be some new LP bug
[08:05] <Mirv> FYI https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110910/ solved my Qt 5.5 blocker problem so I've been able to go forward with testing 5.5 alpha more (builds only, because of qtmir)
[08:13] <tsdgeos> Mirv: what's with qtmir? crashes? doesn't build?
[08:14] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I filed this a month ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmir/+bug/1437181 saviq looked it into a bit and I remember the change indicates it's not a simple build problem but requires some changes
[08:14] <Saviq> there's been a change to how the scenegraph profiler is to be used
[08:17] <tsdgeos> right
[08:17] <tsdgeos> at worst for testing you could just comment those lines
[08:17] <tsdgeos> since it doesn't do anything else than ehlp profiling
[08:17] <tsdgeos> Mirv: ↑↑↑
[08:21] <Mirv> tsdgeos: oh, ok, good info, thanks!
[08:37] <Mirv> tsdgeos: hmm, it's possible there's DBus activity in adding Ubuntu One account that gets worse with the 018 silo https://trello.com/c/doDBpNlq/1428-ubuntu-landing-018-qtbase-opensource-src-qtbase-opensource-src-gles-mirv - I saw that too, but I thought I reproduced that without the PPA but maybe it was different
[08:38] <tsdgeos> Mirv: it's possible, no idea what the ubuntuone or accounts system does tbh
[08:42] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I think the problem described is actual app installation. I did reproduce that adding U1 account was problematic, but I did not see problems with app installation possibly because I flashed clean + added new account
[08:43] <Mirv> (and adding U1 account was problematic without the PPA too)
[08:43] <Mirv> I don't know about what happens with app installation either
[08:53] <Mirv> (asking on #ubuntu-touch)
[09:06] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: you didn't run into that yesterday but we did a landing yesterday
[09:06] <tsdgeos> so it makes sense :D
[09:07] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, yeah.. I guess so... just wish I didn't have to babysit that branch until the needed update for libunity-api-dev lands... so Jenkins can move on... and also provide an approve-stamp :)
[09:08] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, that branch is like a never-ending story for me :)
[09:08] <tsdgeos> yaeh i can feel the pain of long branches
[09:09] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: actually i think some of the merge issues come from the parent
[09:09] <tsdgeos> so make sure you fix those first
[09:09] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, you mean lp:~unity-team/unity8/shellRotation
[09:09] <tsdgeos> yes
[09:10] <MacSlow> tsdgeos, yes... debian/changelog, debian/control and tests/plugins/Unity/Launcher/CMakeLists.txt at least
[09:22] <tsdgeos> MacSlow: well i wrote it in that branch MR :)
[09:52] <Saviq> /food
[10:26] <greyback> Mirv: sorry for the delay: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtmir/qt55-compat/+merge/257235
[10:27] <greyback> tsdgeos: fancy giving it a quick look^^
[10:28] <tsdgeos> greyback: so dropped the profiling?
[10:28] <tsdgeos> it's really not useful?
[10:28] <greyback> tsdgeos: yeah, it always printed 0. binding a texture is a really cheap
[10:28] <tsdgeos> k
[10:28] <tsdgeos> let me compile it in case it fails somewhere else
[10:45] <tsdgeos> greyback: all good
[10:45] <greyback> tsdgeos: thanks
[11:13] <sidi_> Saviq, i figured a lot of the stuff I was pestering you about was on https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/ Would be great to have this page in the topic
[11:14] <Saviq> sidi_, unity.ubuntu.com is there in the topic, and there's a "Get Involved" link there...
[11:15] <sidi_> well, that's fair enough
[11:30] <Mirv> greyback: thanks! not the biggest priority anyway, I'm just happy I'm early in doing these build tests myself this time.
[11:31] <Mirv> and now when I have time at some point I can even try to see if the phone runs with 5.5! maybe next week.
[11:31] <Mirv> and for the first time my build tests are truly covering all non-required rebuilds too, and I already found about 5 such FTBFS:s
[11:36] <tsdgeos> MacSlow|lunch: yeah QObject was removed from some big global include which makes some stuff not compile
[11:36] <tsdgeos> should be trivial to get back into compiling
[11:38] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you meant Mirv ↑?
[11:38] <tsdgeos> i did :D
[11:38] <tsdgeos> i.e. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-qt/commit/?id=494a955128a193382a698ee3d71071d8ff8388e9
[11:41] <Mirv> :)
[11:42] <Mirv> tsdgeos: right, I hinted towards your adding of it to unity8 in a couple of the bug reports that seemed clearly to be similar to that
[11:42] <Mirv> then there's also some possibly more tricky bugs, but on the other hand it's Alpha we're talking about..
[11:43] <Mirv> in a parallel universe when Qt releases on time Beta was released March 12th, but sadly in this universe we're still at Alpha
[11:43] <tsdgeos> Mirv: yeah for sure there's a crasher in one of unity8 tests
[11:43] <tsdgeos> but let's wait for the beta before complinign more
[11:43] <Mirv> (https://wiki.qt.io/Qt-5.5-release)
[13:22] <Saviq> mzanetti, I can has a review of the last commit in https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/homeKey/+merge/257254
[13:23] <mzanetti> sure
[13:31] <mzanetti> Saviq, haven't tested it yet, but reading through it, it seems a long-press of the button would not bring you to home any more
[13:31] <mzanetti> intentional?
[13:31] <Saviq> mzanetti, yes
[13:31] <Saviq> mzanetti, it just built in silo 25 if you want to test
[13:31] <mzanetti> ah cool, yes, I will
[13:31] <mzanetti> Saviq, but why not having it working on longpress?
[13:32] <mzanetti> i.e. starting the timer if not running on release
[13:32] <Saviq> mzanetti, because by then you started a lazy bottom swipe
[13:33] <Saviq> mzanetti, ah I know what you mean
[13:33] <mzanetti> Saviq, not that I want that. just thinking out loud if it wouldn't make sense
[13:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, but I think we'll leave long-press for a different use case, we only care about tap today, and I wouldn't like to introduce a long press people might get used to
[13:34] <mzanetti> Saviq, fair enough
[13:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, you'll need to boot the kernel from https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~okubik/tangxi/boot.img
[13:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, (fastboot boot boot.img)
[13:34] <mzanetti> Saviq, hinting the bottom edge onPress would be cool :)
[13:35] <Saviq> mzanetti, apps could do that, we're delivering the events to them anyway
[13:35] <mzanetti> oh. yeah, would need to be an app-thing
[13:35] <Saviq> mzanetti, but we'd need someone from design to actually look at this at all ;P
[13:35] <Saviq> firt
[13:35] <Saviq> *first
[13:36] <mzanetti> sure
[13:36] <Saviq> om26er, updated silo 25, it will only interpret taps now
[13:40] <om26er> Saviq, great, will get to it now
[13:50] <Saviq> mzanetti, oh and also, in this case we likely need to be a bit more granular between tap and long press because of the bottom edge (i.e. tap must be short, and long press acts immediately as soon as its threshold is reached)
[13:50] <Saviq> vs. tap being any press+release that's shorter than long press
[13:51] <mzanetti> yeah...
[13:52] <mzanetti> Saviq, tested. feels good
[13:53] <Saviq> mzanetti, tx, before, a very lazy bottom swipe would trigger dash, can you confirm that's not the case still? like that you really can't see anything unexpected happen (I can't)
[13:53] <mzanetti> confirmed
[13:54] <mzanetti> Saviq, I just notice that verly slow bottom edges work in apps but not in the dash :)
[13:54] <mzanetti> (yes, I know why - just didn't realize it so far)
[13:54] <Saviq> ;)
[13:54] <Saviq> we got a card for that :D
[13:54] <mzanetti> yep
[13:54] <mzanetti> Saviq, btw, new calculator app asked me on an ETA for that
[13:55] <mzanetti> Saviq, they have a problem that the bottom line of the the buttons is partially obscured by the bottom edge drag are
[13:55] <mzanetti> a
[13:55] <Saviq> right
[13:56] <mzanetti> I guess it's probably worth for them coming up with a workaround for now
[13:56] <mzanetti> might be a while until it really ends up in the SDK
[13:56] <Saviq> and in a stable image for that matter
[13:56] <Saviq> in a framework etc.
[13:56] <mzanetti> yeah
[13:57] <mzanetti> popey, ^
[13:57] <popey> wat?
[13:57] <mzanetti> calculator app, bottom edge
[13:57] <popey> kk
[13:57] <mzanetti> you better add some workaround for now
[13:57] <popey> ok
[13:57] <popey> thanks
[13:58] <Saviq> popey, it'll be new API in the SDK, so new framework etc.
[13:58] <popey> ok
[13:58] <Saviq> popey, or you guys can do what browser did
[13:58] <Saviq> popey, just copy the code from us
[13:58] <mzanetti> would get us some out-in-the-wild feedback
[14:01] <popey> what did the browser do?
[14:02] <mzanetti> popey, there's some classes that you could copy from the unity8 codebase so you'd have that special edge drag area available in calc
[14:02] <mzanetti> browser did that
[14:12] <popey> ok
[14:26] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: greyback: Saviq: i did a first take on https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/suspend_screenshoting/+merge/257119 that afaics does everything that it should do, but some review would be nice :)
[14:26] <Saviq> tsdgeos, coolz
[14:26] <greyback> tsdgeos: nice. I can look at it later on this evening
[14:27] <Saviq> tsdgeos, one thing I'd ask for is some minimal docs
[14:27] <Saviq> doxygen style and all
[14:28] <tsdgeos> Saviq: for sessionscreenshoter.h ?
[14:28] <mterry> josharenson, latest jenkins for the greeter mode branch looks OK, right?
[14:28] <mterry> still 4 errors, but maybe not related?
[14:28] <Saviq> mterry, we only expect 3 errors these days
[14:29] <mterry> Saviq, humph
[14:29] <mterry> Saviq, ok good to know
[14:29] <Saviq> bug #1446846
[14:29] <mterry> Saviq, thanks
[14:29] <Saviq> (and complete FAILURE due to bug #1421009)
[14:29] <josharenson> mterry: my eyes are barely open, ill go take a look
[14:29] <mterry> josharenson, unity8.shell.tests.test_notifications.InteractiveNotificationBase.test_modal_sd_without_greeter is the new failure with your branch
[14:30] <josharenson> mterry: ah that sounds real :-/
[14:31] <josharenson> mterry: humm it passes locally...
[14:40] <Saviq> popey, if you decide to take the code, we have a few unlanded branches that will take the bottom edge bits closer to what will likely end up in the SDK, so please just talk to us when you're there
[14:54] <dandrader> Saviq, so you're saying that a long press should not show home?
[15:00] <dandrader> Saviq, it might be that the only way to "fix" this use case is adding even more delay to the button response
[15:00] <dandrader> Saviq, not sure this is really a bug
[15:00] <dandrader> Saviq, it's like trying to do a very lazy edge swipe. it won't work
[15:02] <Saviq> dandrader, already fixed
[15:02] <Saviq> dandrader, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/homeKey/revision/1738
[15:05] <Saviq> dandrader, and don't you have a public holiday today?
[15:05] <dandrader> Saviq, hmm... the light won't match activation though. but if people are happy
[15:05] <Saviq> dandrader, it really behaves better
[15:05] <dandrader> Saviq, it's a holiday in Rio only, and we get only national holidays, right?
[15:05] <Saviq> dandrader, tsdgeos disagrees ;)
[15:06] <dandrader> Saviq, hmm... tsdgeos tell me more :)
[15:06] <Saviq> dandrader, /me dunno, don't have any non-national ones
[15:06] <Saviq> dandrader, I think the deal is that you observe all the holidays that are observed by others in your area
[15:06] <tsdgeos> well i've been doing "barcelona holidays" since the beginning
[15:07] <dandrader> tsdgeos, ok, so we have a precedent! :D
[15:09] <dandrader> this week was unique. national holiday on Tuesday and local holiday on Thursday. local universities (those lazy bastards!) took the whole week off. My wife teaches in one of them. :)
[15:10] <dandrader> mterry, you should move to Rio ^^^
[15:10] <Saviq> dandrader, teachers have it like that ;)
[15:12] <Saviq> tsdgeos, btw, screenshoter surprisingly small, /me likes ;)
[15:12] <tsdgeos> yeah
[15:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, what's the transition between screenshot and app right now? we were considering desaturating the screenshot so it's clear the app is not ready (if it's not in greyscale to begin with ;D)
[15:14] <mterry> dandrader, agreed!
[15:14] <tsdgeos> Saviq: it's "pixelated" since we only show an image with width/2 height/2 resolution
[15:14] <tsdgeos> it's not horrible as an indicator of "this is not the real app"
[15:15] <tsdgeos> could be better too
[15:16] <Saviq> on that note, I think we need to stop doing the /2, darken+desaturation will likely work better
[15:17] <Saviq> + ActivityIndicator
[15:18] <tsdgeos> Saviq: different MR though?
[15:18] <Saviq> tsdgeos, sure, could be
[15:18] <tsdgeos> pushed some docu, it's not great, but gives a basic grasp of what the thing does
[15:19] <Saviq> tsdgeos, btw, I'm starting to fall to "SessionGrabber", we already have a "ScreenGrabber"
[15:19] <Saviq> s/to/for/
[15:19] <tsdgeos> yeah
[15:19] <tsdgeos> that's the thing that actually saves screenshots for the user
[15:19] <Saviq> yup
[15:20] <Saviq> and it's grabToImage, too
[15:20] <tsdgeos> hmmm not really
[15:20] <tsdgeos> i mean kind of
[15:20] <tsdgeos> QImage screenshot = main_window->grabWindow();
[15:21] <Saviq> I mean on QQuickItem?
[15:21] <Saviq> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qquickitem.html#grabToImage
[15:21]  * tsdgeos got lost
[15:21] <Saviq> tsdgeos, nvm, I'll write stuff on the MR
[15:21] <tsdgeos> :)


[19:58] <sarnold> hmm I always thought dax was -r +r periodically as dax was able to deal with potential noise from it
[19:59] <sarnold> the data I've seen suggested that +r drastically reduces the channels use, but perhaps that's more due to decline of the ubuntu community itself
[20:07] <el> yep -r should only happen if someone is absolutely 100% able to supervise it
[20:07] <el> that's just how the internet is now
[20:33] <hggdh> so, my take on it: if one ops available (as el points above) and willing, then set -r & monitor. At the end of availability, set +r.
[20:34] <sarnold> that sounds good to me
[20:34] <hggdh> a priori, our take is -- given internet & trolls -- +r is the *default* state for #u
[20:34] <el> yeah and not too long a gap or you'll have the usual trollish people putting in sleeper clients
[20:35] <hggdh> ^aye aye
[20:36] <hggdh> sarnold, tomreyn: so go and experiment and keep at least one eye on the channel :-)
[20:37] <sarnold> it's that last part that's a bit harder to do :) meetings come and go, etc.. so I haven't flipped it yet myself, even though it was suggested to me a week back or something
[20:38] <hggdh> yeah, this is the rub. But if two or more commit to looking at #u frequently, the burden might be shared. I try to every time I can, but real work interferes...
[20:40] <hggdh> even worse right now due to power outages in TX (mostly caused by brain outages in government, but this is besides the point)
[20:57] <el> outages imply the existance of the service prior.
[21:03] <hggdh> heh