[22:09] <Decepticon> what is the bus id if lspci says: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)"
[22:09] <Fephisto> See you.
[22:09] <carrera> the_lost_one, thanks, but only problem is that it's two minor versions behind - 1.11.2 vs 1.13.2
[22:09] <a1> or listen to CLASSSSSSSSSSSSIC?
[22:09] <carrera> the_lost_one, why is it safer?
[22:09] <a1> like mozart
[22:10] <jgoguen> !ot | a1
[22:10] <dulak> Decepticon: the first column is the busid
[22:10] <InExile> OK ... me and my one milllllllllion dollars are ourt of here ... wait ... I said I have two questions .....
[22:10] <the_lost_one> carrera because you can be sure apt-get does the work properlly, like file permissions and so on
[22:10] <Decepticon> dulak is this busid compatible to fit into the syntax of xorg.conf
[22:10] <dulak> Decepticon: I believe so, not 100% sure on that
[22:11] <a1> Scunizi ? about the SIZE of tha ICONS ?
[22:11] <InExile> the other question ... on some programs ... if I maximize the screen, then everytime I try to click on something on the screen it moves the screen a little so I can see the top or bottom ... but actually clicking on it is nearly hopelesss
[22:11] <Scunizi> a1: what didn't you understand.. I have never found an answer to that.
[22:12] <the_lost_one> InExile are you on ultra movile laptop?
[22:12] <kri> gconf-editor sounds intresting
[22:12] <InExile> nope ... desktop
[22:12] <kri> looks lige gpedit.msc for windows :)
[22:12] <toni_> hello
[22:12] <a1> lol
[22:12] <a1> it can possible?
[22:13] <the_lost_one> InExile ok, i had to enable some tweak in compiz to solve that kind of issues, on a ultra movile laptop :)
[22:13] <InExile> ok ... think it will work here?
[22:13] <the_lost_one> InExile, yes i think so
[22:13] <InExile> seems like it has to be a common problem that I am just not understanding
[22:14] <askand> How do I check what COM-port my bluetooth is on?
[22:14] <a1> some1?
[22:14] <kri> if somone is good a Gconf-editor where do i find if any setting for 'Desktop=URL' or how should i put it...
[22:15] <kri> because it went loose so ~/home/usr/ = desktop
[22:15] <InExile> anyone?
[22:15] <kunwon1> a1, right click on the icon, click 'stretch icon'
[22:15] <InExile> :'(
[22:15] <faria_khan> hello
[22:15] <the_lost_one> InExile my problem whas that i cant being able to move windows that are too large to fit on the screen at once.
[22:16] <InExile> hmmm
[22:16] <a1> how do i do that for all the icons?
[22:16] <faria_khan> i installed server edition now i want to login from ubuntu to server plz guide me how can i access my server from ubuntu ??
[22:16] <Guest53105> picche, non va , che funzioni solo usando una rete 192.168.0?
[22:17] <InExile> I am afraid I am getting close to returning to Windows hell .... or at least doing a complete reinstall and trying again from there
[22:17] <kri> faria_khan: ssh
[22:17] <Guest53105> il sito di firestarter fa sempre riferminto a quella
[22:17] <Guest53105> sorry
[22:17] <drog> say I want to move files beginning with alsa- but not files that end with .bz2... how would that be done? mv alsa-*!.bz2?
[22:17] <the_lost_one> InExile, try this, to move a hidden part of the window into view, click and drag with the left mouse button on any part of the window while holding down the ALT key. However, you won't be able to drag windows so the top of the window is above the top of the screen unless you tweak compiz
[22:17] <faria_khan> Kri ssh command plz
[22:17] <InExile> ok
[22:18] <fryguy--> How can I get xinerama configured with 3d acceleration on both monitors using the fglrx driver
[22:18] <a1> kunwon1
[22:19] <kunwon1> a1?
[22:19] <a1> how do i do that for all the icons?
[22:19] <InExile> the problem is ... I can not even click on it to resize ... as soon as I click on it ... the window shifts up or down
[22:19] <a1> i mean
[22:19] <HaSH> hello all. im using ubuntu server and when i log in it says i have new mail..so i type "mail" and i can see all the mail if from running cronjobs...and there is over 1k mails..how can i erase them all?
[22:19] <the_lost_one> InExile, also while pressing ALT?
[22:20] <InExile> ok
[22:20] <fryguy--> HaSH: man mail should give you a list of commands
[22:20] <HaSH> i tried "d *" "del *" "delete *"
[22:20] <HaSH> fryguy--, none of them are actually removing the mails though
[22:21] <InExile> sweet ... did not fix the overall problem that it does that ... but it did allow me to make it smaller and resize it
[22:21] <a1> there is no simple option to change them all?
[22:21] <the_lost_one> InExile, cool mate, maybe you need also to run gconftool-2 --set /apps/compiz/plugins/move/allscreens/options/constrain_y --type bool 0
[22:21] <kunwon1> a1, go to nautilus preferences>views>icon view defaults, change default zoom level
[22:22] <sudobash> why isnt there a bot in here that answers a lot of common questions automatically?
[22:22] <kunwon1> sudobash, there is
[22:22] <sudobash> without the !
[22:22] <sudobash> yeah i know that but not one that knows when it can answer and when it cannot
[22:22] <HaSH> !bot
[22:22] <sudobash> on its own
[22:22] <kunwon1> sudobash, that would be a very difficult bot to write
[22:23] <HaSH> and spammy
[22:23] <sudobash> not that bad really it is really how you code it
[22:23] <kunwon1> sudobash, programmatically interpreting conversational english is all but impossible. you're welcome to give it a try, though :D let us know how it goes
[22:23] <InExile> cool ... thanks lost
[22:23] <sudobash> not if your good at programming
[22:23] <jason_> why cant i download and run adobe flash player
[22:23] <fryguy--> sudobash: being good at programming doesn't change the complexity of the problem
[22:24] <ompaul> !offtopic | sudobash bot programming is not for here thanks ;-)
[22:24] <sudobash> actually I have they don't allow users bots in here you should know that
[22:24] <carrera> can install packages from Debian repos too. i.e. munin to monitor my box?
[22:24] <mediacenter> I just installed Ubuntu the newest version and I am wondering about how to install Java. Can anyone tell me?
[22:24] <a1> kunwon1: nautilus?
[22:24] <sudobash> a good programmer will find a solution
[22:24] <kunwon1> a1, start a terminal, type nautilus, then open the preferences dialog from the menu, it's in there somewhere
[22:24] <Pici> sudobash: Do you have a question about Ubuntu itself? If not, you can discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:24] <kunwon1> a1, then look for the setting I mentioned
[22:25] <jason_> why cant i download adobe
[22:25] <fryguy--> sudobash: yes, and solutions have been discovered, and their implementations leave a lot to be desired.  Take a look at a lot of the search related topics of information theory.  Things like latent semantic indexing.  You'll get a quick handle on how difficult the problem is
[22:25] <fryguy--> How can I get xinerama configured with 3d acceleration on both monitors using the fglrx driver
[22:25] <sudobash> i know where the limitations are and I know of some solutions to the problem....
[22:26] <gerard`> Hay I've destroyed my laptop monitor
[22:26] <ThexLeopard> is anyone else having trouble with downloading files from the repository?
[22:26] <fryguy--> ThexLeopard: no
[22:26] <LoneShadow> Is beta to release candidate to final release, just updation of packages ?
[22:26] <carrera> mediacenter, Applications->Add/Remove Apps then search for Java. Finally click on OpenJDK Java Runtime and Apply Changes
[22:26] <gerard`> and I'm trying to get it to work on an ecternal monitor
[22:26] <gerard`> but I can't figure out how to configure it without x
[22:26] <Pici> !fina; | LoneShadow yes
[22:26] <Pici> !final | LoneShadow yes
[22:26] <LoneShadow> thanks
[22:26] <ThexLeopard> fryguy--, am i missing some files that are involved in the package manager then?
[22:27] <fryguy--> ThexLeopard: no
[22:27] <mediacenter> carrera: thanks. So that is the best option? Heard someone saying a forum that it might not be the ultimate option...?
[22:27] <a1> kunwon1: thanks!
[22:27] <deniz> does ship it not send 64 bit discs anymore??
[22:27] <kunwon1> a1, no problem
[22:27] <ThexLeopard> fryguy--, even if ive been messing around with bits and bobs in an attempt to get my java runtime environment to work?
[22:27] <{alejandro}> hm my compiz is all messed up now
[22:27] <carrera> mediacenter, why not? you can also use the Synaptic Software Manager in System->Administration
[22:28] <{alejandro}> I installed emerald and used it for a while and then compiz stopped working altogether when I reset my computer
[22:28] <carrera> mediacenter, err, Synaptic Package Manager
[22:28] <klync> i just downloaded the flash installer .deb from adobe.com ... says wrong arch (x86, but I'm on ia64)... what gives?
[22:28] <{alejandro}> and dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything there...
[22:28] <mediacenter> carrera: not sure about what their logic was.. But ill try what you said:)
[22:28] <fryguy--> klync: you almost certainly aren't on ia64
[22:28] <mstokes_vpn> hey thre
[22:28] <lbci> klync, they are diff arch's:(
[22:28] <Alejo> mmm
[22:29] <Twar3> d
[22:29] <carrera> mediacenter, you can always remove it, if it wasn't what you wanted
[22:29] <klync> fryguy--: x86_64
[22:29] <mstokes_vpn> I have a macbook pro version 5, 1, and I am trying to find driver support for it, anyone that can help?
[22:30] <Some_Person> !botsnack
[22:30] <kunwon1> lol
[22:32] <mediacenter> carerra: thanks for the help. I just installed Ubuntu and then installed Flash and Java. Are there other "basic" things that I should install while im at it?
[22:33] <{alejandro}> How do I reset my gnome/metacity/compiz/emerald settings?
[22:33] <mstokes> so um?
[22:33] <mstokes> anyone that can help me here?
[22:34] <mstokes> new generation macbook? anyone know where there is ubuntu driver support?
[22:34] <mstokes> or at least info on it at all
[22:34] <ortsvorsteher> !mac
[22:34] <lirit> what is the command to upload the ssh pub key to a server?
[22:35] <Some_Person> {alejandro}: Ok, why do you need to reset gnome, metacity, compiz, and/or emerald settings?
[22:35] <sudobash> whats not working on your mac?
[22:35] <ortsvorsteher> lirit: try it with scp to the server, copy it into authorized_keys
[22:35] <xenos90> trying to run openoffice and firefox at the same time crashes pc, same with openoffice and pidgin, basically office and an internet application together invariably causes crash, any ideas?
[22:35] <kunwon1> mstokes, have you considered intrepid? might have better support for newer hardware. In lieu of a more complete description of your problems, that'd be my recommendation :)
[22:36] <Decepticon> how do i stop this "low graphics mode' dialog box and get higher resolution, i have a geforce fx 5200 outputting via svideo to my tv as the only monitor... i can see stuff but the resolution is too small at 800x600
[22:36] <Supersaiyan_IV> mstokes, i dont think there is full centrino 2 support in linux yet, and even if it exists, the drivers are yet to be made by nvidia
[22:36] <Some_Person> Decepticon: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[22:36] <deniz_> did shipit stop shipping 64 bit discs???
[22:38] <mstokes> so far, I have no driver support for the video card, multi touch pad, blue-tooth, sound card, backlighting for the keyboard.
[22:38] <mstokes> so are the things i cannot figure out
[22:38] <sudobash> can I link from my website straight to an ubuntu download mirror if I wanted?
[22:39] <{alejandro}> oh sorry I was up Some_Person - I was messing around with Compiz and Emerald and got them working and for some reason nothing seems to be working anymore
[22:39] <{alejandro}> after I reset
[22:39] <{alejandro}> well metacity works
[22:39] <{alejandro}> but no compiz and I would at least like to start over again
[22:40] <Supersaiyan_IV> mstokes, did you install intrepid?
[22:40] <Some_Person> You can start over with compiz by deleting ~/.compiz
[22:40] <{alejandro}> ok thanks
[22:41] <skath> lirit, ssh-copy-id
[22:42] <kri> hm
[22:42] <kri> still the same problem here
[22:42] <kri> cant find any setting to restore the Desktop folder to /usr/me/"Desktop"/
[22:42] <retro89dsaffdsa> can anyone help me I need to get my atheros wireless card to work
[22:43] <mn> k i'm making a fedora dvd from one i have for one of my friends.  i have the dvd but how do i make a .iso of it?
[22:43] <Some_Person> !wifi > retro89dsaffdsa
[22:43] <chaddy> mn: dd
[22:43] <mn> chaddy:?
[22:43] <retro89dsaffdsa> ok how do I do that?
[22:43] <chaddy> mn: use dd
[22:44] <mn> hrmm
[22:44] <tinman08> help on installin virtual pc
[22:44] <chaddy> mn: you can probably also try k3b
[22:44] <xenos90> openoffice + any internet app = crash no idea why
[22:44] <{alejandro}> aha!
[22:45] <{alejandro}> excellent
[22:46] <retro89dsaffdsa> need help with my atheros wireless card
[22:46] <arnadelo> someone has installed ubuntu 8.04 on a dell optiplex?
[22:47] <retro89dsaffdsa> need help with my atheros wireless card
[22:47] <guiss> hi guys, I am testing an Ubuntu 8.10 fresh install on a GA-P35-D3SL with a core2duo 8400 processor and after installation Ubuntu reboots everytime I select 2.6.27 kernel on grub, any help?
[22:47] <kunwon1> !repeat > retro89dsaffdsa
[22:48] <cole> does anyone know how i can password protect a folder in home dir, so that the root password box appears before the dir will open. i have chmod to 000 but doing this just tells me i dont have permissions to open and no password box
[22:48] <Supersaiyan_IV> guiss, join #ubuntu+1 it's intepid only there
[22:48] <Some_Person> !wifi | retro89dsaffdsa
[22:49] <rdancer> a program says i'm running JDK 1.4 and it needs JDK 1.5 -- just done apt-get install kaffe -- what should i do?
[22:49] <Pelo> anyone have a suggestion how I could add about 2 minutes of silence at the end of a .mp3 ?
[22:49] <soulsearcher> at cole: use something like truecrypt
[22:49] <mn> chaddy: i couldn't figure out how to do it with dd so i am using gnomebaker.
[22:49] <rdancer> Pelo: edit the file in audacity?
[22:49] <Pelo> rdancer, , go in synaptic and do a search for java
[22:49] <mn> thnx
[22:49] <mn> bye
[22:49] <cole> soulsearcher i dont really want to go down the seamonkey/truecrypt road
[22:50] <Some_Person> Pelo: Why the heck would you do that? Anyway, you can use Audacity
[22:50] <rdancer> Pelo: i've searched, and it gives me a crapload of packages
[22:50] <mediacenter> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu today. have installed Java and Flash. Are there other "basic" things that I should install while I am at it?
[22:50] <Pelo> rdancer, is audacity fixed ?
[22:50] <soulsearcher> mmm. i understand
[22:50] <rdancer> Pelo: has it been broken?
[22:50] <kunwon1> mediacenter, do you need to play mp3s?
[22:50] <Pelo> Some_Person,  for a dvd menu,  the music is too short , it loops back to quickly
[22:50] <Some_Person> Pelo: Since when was audacity broken?
[22:50] <soulsearcher> sorry,can't help ya...
[22:50] <rdancer> mediacenter: proprietary codecs
[22:50] <Pelo> rdancer, search for sun java
[22:51] <rdancer> Pelo: still shitloads of packages
[22:51] <Pelo> Some_Person,  it's never worked well for me , keeps telling me it can'T edit mp3 for some reason
[22:51] <Pelo> rdancer, add  jdk to the search
[22:52] <mediacenter> rdancer: what is prprietary codecs?
[22:52] <rdancer> Pelo: use mencoder to convert to wav
[22:52] <Pelo> rdancer,  sun-java6-jdk
[22:52] <mediacenter> kunwon1: downloaded VLC and Elisa Median Center
[22:53] <kunwon1> mediacenter, vlc is a good choice :)
[22:53] <rdancer> is there no free implementation of jdk 1.5?
[22:53] <Some_Person> When you install sun-java6-jdk, does that give you Java32 or Java64 on Ubuntu64?
[22:53] <_786soul> If I install multiple operating systems on an SDHC card, is it possible to have it dual boot like choose which to start up? Say installing ubuntu and bt3 on one sdhc card?
[22:53] <Pelo> rdancer, sun-java5-jdk
[22:53] <ReelBigDick> does anybody knows some good bruteforce for ftp
[22:53] <ReelBigDick> ?
[22:53] <ThexLeopard> is there any way of checking i havent corrupted an important part of my system?
[22:54] <kunwon1> !ot | ReelBigDick
[22:54] <_786soul> ReelBigDick: wrong place to ask
[22:54] <Chousuke> rdancer: the java6 icedtea jdk is the first one with no proprietary dependencies AFAIK
[22:54] <ReelBigDick> maybe pm?
[22:54] <ReelBigDick> _786soul, ??
[22:54] <_786soul> As in this is UBUNTU and not a pentesting channel
[22:54] <rdancer> Chousuke: what's the package name?
[22:54] <Chousuke> rdancer: search for openjdk
[22:55] <ReelBigDick> that's bad
[22:55] <ReelBigDick> greats from russia
[22:55] <_786soul> I can point you towards remote-exploit channel however which is another operating system but deals with 'security'
[22:55] <ReelBigDick> _786soul, it'b nice
[22:55] <kri> what was that free alternative to vmware?
[22:55] <ReelBigDick> _786soul, it'd nice
[22:55] <mediacenter> I can watch youtube.com videos but there is no sound (even thoug the sound is workign when wathcin a DVD from the computer for example). Any idea what I should download or do to fix this?
[22:55] <kunwon1> ReelBigDick, check out ##security. Also, you might want to consider changing your nick, it's quite offensive.
[22:56] <microhaxo>  Hello, is there any way i can install linux via VMware that will allow me to seemlessly switch between an active windows session to an active linux session by simply hitting a hotkey?
[22:56] <ReelBigDick> kunwon1, for russia it's normal
[22:56] <ReelBigDick> thx
[22:57] <lucax> is there any application like time machine for ubuntu?
[22:57] <_786soul> Anyone know if I can dual boot off a SDHC card? BT3 and Ubuntu choose at startup?
[22:57] <rdancer> Chousuke: will that give me /usr/bin/java ? i've installed kaffe, but there are like a dozen packages that provide /usr/bin/java. i'm not sure which one i should use
[22:57] <alinux> kunwon1, don't worry, for russia occupying Georgia is normal too
[22:57] <alinux> :)
[22:57] <deniz_> kri, virtualbox-ose
[22:57] <microhaxo> anyone?
[22:58] <Chousuke> rdancer: you want the openjdk packages.
[22:58] <Flare183> !anyone | mic
[22:58] <Flare183> !anyone | microhaxo
[22:58] <Chousuke> rdancer: kaffe is mostly useless.
[22:58] <microhaxo> I already asked it.
[22:58] <microhaxo>  Hello, is there any way i can install linux via VMware that will allow me to seemlessly switch between an active windows session to an active linux session by simply hitting a hotkey?
[22:58] <kri> deniz_: virtualbox-ose and thats the best?
[22:58] <Agrajag-> g'day. when using pulseaudio, my volume levels are much lower than they used to be, and i can't turn it up very high. and my mic recording volume is extremely low too. any ideas how to fix this?
[22:58] <alinux> ReelBigDick, please change your nick.
[22:59] <ReelBigDick> Aliena, why shoul i?
[22:59] <alinux> as kunwon1 said it's quite offensive.
[22:59] <deniz_> kri, virtualbox supposedly has a few additional features but virtualbox-ose is free in every sense of the word (further than the extent of money)
[22:59] <the_dude> my ubuntu cd doesnt boot.....
[22:59] <Cwave> hello :)
[22:59] <_786soul> the_dude: did you burn the iso file correctly?
[22:59] <ThexLeopard> i need help with the package manager
[22:59] <microhaxo> deniz, should i use virtualbox as well for my question?
[23:00] <kunwon1> !ask | ThexLeopard
[23:00] <alinux> ReelBigDick, please read what kunwon1 wrote above.
[23:00] <the_dude> _786soul, ive downloaded and then i open the nero, and copied the files inside to the cd...
[23:00] <ReelBigXYU> here it is
[23:00] <askand> Has anyone been able to request a CD from shipit?
[23:00] <kunwon1> ReelBigXYU, thanks :)
[23:00] <ReelBigXYU> hope nobody knows russian
[23:00] <ReelBigXYU> $)
[23:00] <alinux> XUI
[23:00] <ThexLeopard> kunwon1, it wont connect to the repository
[23:00] <alinux> XYU is not acceptable too.
[23:00] <ReelBigXYU> Aliena, russian spelling
[23:00] <kri> deniz_: but i can install it on my ubuntu with out changing any file system? and run xp on it?
[23:00] <Rev_> hello can someone help me with the video_out issue of mplayer? it plays only the sound of the video :
[23:00] <ReelBigXYU> shits
[23:01] <Rev_> http://pastebin.com/dfad3e40
[23:01] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, what is it?
[23:01] <_786soul> the_dude: make sure you have the burn iso image option selected. I also assume upon startup that your boot device priority is set to be from your cd drive first?
[23:01] <Cwave> the_dude  u burn it as iso file or just add normal file .?
[23:01] <bed-man> maybe this?
[23:01] <tgb_> Having issues gettinng sdlmame to see the joystick, jscalibrator sees it fine.  Can anyone point me in a helpful direcction? Thanks in advance!
[23:01] <microhaxo> What program should i use (if any) to allow for seemless switching between my windows os to ubuntu live, vmware virtual box? which one will do that?
[23:01] <Enissay> i deownloaded some themes and when i try to install them with emerald, it says that it does not appear to be a valid theme!!! please help
[23:01] <rdancer> thx, Chousuke et al.
[23:01] <deniz_> kri, i think u can get virtualbox-ose thru repositories with apt-get install virtualbox-ose but for virtualbox u need to download the .deb from its website
[23:01] <the_dude> Cwave, add lika normal one
[23:02] <alinux> bed-man, that's ok dude.
[23:02] <microhaxo> when i say live i mean when active, like press a hotkey and im in linux, press again and im back into windows.
[23:02] <Cwave> the_dude is not you should burn it as iso file so the cd will boot correctly :)
[23:02] <the_dude> _786soul, i can boot windows from both drivers
[23:02] <_786soul> the_dude: it will not work this way. Choose the option that is specifically named 'Burn ISO image"
[23:02] <ThexLeopard> basically kunwon1, i was trying to reinstall my java runtime environment, removing stuff through synaptic package manager, because it wouldnt load java programs on firefox, and now the package manager wont grab files from the repo
[23:02] <the_lost_one> microhaxo, vmware tools do that
[23:02] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, what program are you using? what command are you issuing to it? what do you expect to happen? what's actually happening? any error messages / pastebinning of actual output would be helpful
[23:02] <bed-man> Aliena, thx a lot
[23:02] <the_dude> Cwave, hm now i got it! maybe ill try it with 8.10
[23:02] <the_dude> _786soul, got it man!
[23:02] <Cwave> the_dude go for it :)
[23:02] <bed-man> alinux, 2 U above
[23:02] <the_dude> Cwave, hell yeah thx man
[23:03] <the_dude> _786soul, thx man
[23:03] <natbet> anyone know how to get around the 2048x2048 resolution max in compiz?
[23:03] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, elaborate on 'wont grab files from the repo' please. what is happening?  NIGGAS SUCK MY DICK AND THE GIRLIES DRINK MY PEE
[23:03] <ThexLeopard> kunwon1, it wont start downloading them, so when i cancel it gives me the failed to fetch errors
[23:03] <twfxfnf> sorry, wrong window
[23:03] <FloodBot2> twfxfnf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <the_lost_one> microhaxo, really well, trust me :)
[23:03] <Cwave> anyway know why my connexion is not estabilished to some websites ?
[23:03] <twfxfnf> make that
[23:03] <_786soul> retro89dsaffdsa: do you have the drivers installed for that atheros card?
[23:03] <deniz_> kri, ya ur gonna make a virtual harddrive which is a file on ur current linux partition and the difference is a few features such as usb support which can only be found in virtualbox
[23:04] <hlfshell> msg NickServ identify firebolt
[23:04] <microhaxo> so VMware Workstation v6.5.0 will work nicely then right?
[23:04] <the_lost_one> microhaxo, just move the mouse out of vmware and that´s it, your are now controling ubuntu
[23:04] <Pici> hlfshell: You'll want to change that.
[23:04] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, try closing synaptic, going into a console, typing sudo aptitude update, then restarting synaptic to see if it fixed your problem
[23:04] <hlfshell> lol yup
[23:04] <hlfshell> oops!
[23:04] <hlfshell> anyone happen to know the command to change that?
[23:04] <blueeyez> is zepto znote 6625wd fully supported in ubuntu?
[23:04] <_786soul> Is it possible to dual boot two operating systems off a sd card?
[23:04] <microhaxo> nice
[23:05] <Cwave> any one  know why my connexion is not estabilished to some websites ?
[23:05] <cmiguel> HELLO
[23:05] <retro89dsaffdsa> _786 soul, im me please
[23:05] <ThexLeopard> kunwon1, stuck at 95% waiting for headers
[23:05] <the_dude> Cwave, maybe its your internet provedor
[23:05] <Cwave> no :)
[23:05] <Cwave> is working fine with xp
[23:05] <the_dude> Cwave, sometimes it happened to me at windows, and suddendly came back
[23:05] <tgb_> Wow.. perhaps too busy.  I'll go back to researching on my own... ;)
[23:05] <Cwave> but not with ubuntu
[23:05] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, sounds like maybe one of the repos is down
[23:05] <Cwave> no it open some websites and some not
[23:06] <kri> deniz_: * No suitable module for running kernel found.
[23:06] <the_dude> Cwave, i dont know man, i think the best thing to do is wait....
[23:06] <Cwave> is woried
[23:06] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, which repo is it stuck on?
[23:06] <microhaxo> Whats the latest version of ubuntu 8.10?
[23:06] <Cwave> yah im waiting for my hero lol
[23:06] <hlfshell> so i have two usb sticks that when i plug them it the system says "can not mount". I cant figure out how to get these mounted, but they work on my other (win xp) system. what can i do to get them mounted in ubuntu?
[23:06] <blueeyez> is ubuntu supporting drivers in zepto znote 6625wd?
[23:06] <the_dude> Cwave, yeah... and some websites works on other pcs
[23:06] <lucax> is there any application like time machine (macos leopard backup) for ubuntu?
[23:06] <the_dude> Cwave, lol i thinks thats not a problem from ubuntu, and it is maybe from your internet maybe
[23:07] <deniz_> kri, ask sum1 else about install kernel modules but i think its apt-get install wtv ur kernel is -modules or sumtin lioke that (uname -r tells u wat kernel u have) im sry but this is the end of the help i can offer u
[23:07] <Tux2K8> hi
[23:07] <ThexLeopard> http://security.ubuntu.com hardy security/multiverse sources is the last entry befor it gets stuck kunwon1
[23:07] <Tux2K8> how do I check if a specific port (22) is blocked (iptables)???
[23:08] <the_lost_one> Tux2K8 iptables -L
[23:08] <Cwave> but what can be the pb
[23:08] <blueeyez> is zepto znote 6625wd supported in ubuntu?
[23:08] <ThexLeopard> i reckon ive accidently removed something important kunwon1
[23:08] <Uplink> how do i change the system sounds?
[23:09] <the_lost_one> Cwave, you can try some traceroute to those webservers and see if your box can reach them
[23:09] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, if you want to pastebin your sources.list i'll take a look at it
[23:09] <BubblegumTate> I've destroyed my laptop's monitor and I'm running in the terminal with an external monitor, but it won't startx (or rather it does startx but the screen stays blank) how can I get it to magically work from the terminal? I've tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[23:09] <BubblegumTate> Help please!
[23:09] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, the problem you describe is unlikely to be caused by your removal of software
[23:09] <Cwave> the_dude no is not the ping is fine but some websites arnt reashed
[23:09] <ThexLeopard> you mean the list it gives when i update apt kunwon1?
[23:10] <kri> ok
[23:10] <blueeyez> does anyone in here use ubuntu on a zepto znote 6625wd??
[23:10] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, I mean the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:10] <ThexLeopard> oh ok
[23:10] <kri> so when i 'sudo apt-get purge X' and y everything goes away?
[23:10] <the_dude> Cwave, man, i had this problem once in windows, i didnt nothing and it came back...
[23:10] <Bullterd> Evening All
[23:11] <Cwave> windows works fine
[23:11] <ThexLeopard> whats the link for pastebinning again kunwon1?
[23:11] <Cwave> only ubuntu
[23:11] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, /topic
[23:11] <Bullterd> when im setting up a cron job and im specifying a script.sh - What does that .sh compromise off ?
[23:11] <Bullterd> is it the equiv of a batch file in windows ?
[23:11] <thiebaude> !pastebin
[23:11] <blueeyez> is there a page that shows what zeptos ubuntu support?
[23:12] <ThexLeopard> kunwon1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/60280/
[23:12] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, I don't see any glaring problems in your setup, how long have you been experiencing this problem?
[23:13] <ThexLeopard> few days kunwon1
[23:13] <ThexLeopard> but before a restart would sort it out, now it wont
[23:13] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, I've heard tell that this problem can be solved by switching to different mirrors, but I don't have any experience with that
[23:13] <dime> is there a flash viewer i should be using?
[23:13] <Armatura> ать же ж бля ублюдки
[23:13] <kunwon1> ThexLeopard, I don't have any other suggestions, sorry
[23:14] <ThexLeopard> ok well thanks anyway kunwon1
[23:14] <kunwon1> !ru | Armatura
[23:14] <dime> atm, i'm using shockwave flash
[23:14] <dime> is there a better one?
[23:15] <kunwon1> dime, that's the best choice for most users
[23:15] <kunwon1> dime, the standard flash plugin I mean
[23:15] <sudobash> you were waiting to do that weren't you....
[23:16] <dime> kunwon: the reason why i ask
[23:16] <kri> can you stay online in some way in sleep mode?
[23:16] <dime> is because i tried loading a forum page that had roughly ~20 or so youtube videos on it
[23:16] <dime> the embedded ones where it loads the image and you can click play from the page
[23:17] <dime> and it causes a segfault in npviewer.bin everytime
[23:17] <dime> then none of them load
[23:18] <blueeyez> is nvidia 8600m gt supported in ubuntu?
[23:18] <dime> check the ubuntu hardware compaibility guide
[23:18] <dime> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[23:19] <dime> it's there.. next time, do a search
[23:19] <KingOfDos> blueeyez: i've got a 8600GT. but indeed, search :)
[23:19] <KingOfDos> for installing right drivers, use envy
[23:19] <KingOfDos> or do it manual
[23:19] <retro89dsaffdsa> need help etting my atheros card to work?
[23:21] <kunwon1> envy is the last choice, not the first choice
[23:21] <csilk> retro89dsaffdsa, aren't atheros cards suppported ot of the box via "hardware drivers" menu?
[23:22] <retro89dsaffdsa> csilk , not sure
[23:22] <Uplink> how can i change my sounds?
[23:22] <jrble819> hey all, I'm having trouble with my turtle beach catalina WDM sound card... I am looking for a good driver or a way to get it working with ubuntu... anyone have any ideas?
[23:22] <retro89dsaffdsa> csilk, message me
[23:22] <the_lost_one> csilk i´ve bougth a acer aspire one last week and dident work, i had to setup madwifi by hand
[23:22] <blueeyez> does anyone know a windows program that can check if youre hardware is supported in ubuntu?
[23:22] <the_dude> bye guyz
[23:22] <csilk> the_lost_one, I'm surprised at that, did you have to compile from source?
[23:23] <the_lost_one> csilk, yeah
[23:23] <NeZZa> where can i change my name?
[23:23] <magnetron> !hardware | blueeyez
[23:23] <csilk> the_lost_one,  was it the ng (new generation) code base you had to use?
[23:23] <csilk> e.g. madwifi-ng
[23:23] <genii> blueeyez: There's no "Linux compatability check" software that I'm aware of. If it runs the livcd it usually works however
[23:23] <NeZZa> hello?
[23:23] <the_lost_one> csilk, that one, madwifi_ng
[23:23] <goldie> Hello, I am looking to format my hard drive. How to format and wont get a grub error.
[23:24] <kitche> NeZZa: hello what name you need to be more detailed
[23:24] <kunwon1> nezza, in the US you generally have to get a judge to approve it, legal fees, etc
[23:24] <csilk> the_lost_one, sorry to hassle you.. after the installation did you have to modprobe ath_pci ?
[23:24] <jrble819> I'm having trouble with my turtle beach catalina WDM/ENVY24 sound card... I am looking for a good driver or a way to get it working with ubuntu... anyone have any ideas?
[23:24] <retro89dsaffdsa> csilk, let me try
[23:24] <mercutio22> is the theme in intrepid ibex settled yet?
[23:25] <kunwon1> mercutio22, try #ubuntu+1
[23:25] <the_lost_one> csilk, its ok dude :), i just load it with the drivers app menu, same as doing with modprobe
[23:25] <csilk> the_lost_one,  ok cool
[23:25] <mercutio22> kunwon1: ok, thanks
[23:25] <kunwon1> mercutio22, :)
[23:25] <the_lost_one> csilk, have fun with atheros :)
[23:26] <nick327> quick question: how can i delete a read only file in cli, or change it so it can be deleted?
[23:26] <nick327> its in /etc/init.d
[23:26] <kunwon1> nick327, sudo rm file
[23:26] <Gnea> nick327: why do you need to remove it? so it won't startup?
[23:26] <nick327> it says its read only
[23:26] <nick327> ya, i copied it there via typo
[23:27] <nick327> and now gnome won't boot
[23:27] <csilk> nick327, sudo rm -f
[23:27] <nick327> tried that, didn't work
[23:27] <sYskk> anyone else is running ubuntu inside vmware workstation ? I can't get to install vmware tools. I see the CDROM icon, but when I list it content it says 0 files/directory. Any idea ?
[23:27] <Gnea> nick327: what file?
[23:27] <nick327> its a script i wrote to mount a partition
[23:27] <nick327> shoudln't have put it there, but hey live and learn
[23:27] <Gnea> nick327: what perms does it have?
[23:27] <nick327> wats a quick way to check?
[23:27] <genii> sYskk: So you're trying to run a virtual machine inside another virtual machine?
[23:27] <Gnea> nick327: it shouldn't matter if it's there as long as you didn't run it through update-rc.d
[23:28] <Gnea> nick327: ls -l /etc/init.d/file
[23:28] <komputes> what is the equivalent in debian for the command 'rpm --verify <packagename>' (verify an installed package & list all files that do NOT pass the verify tests (size, MD5 sig, etc)
[23:28] <kunwon1> nick327, sudo chmod 666 file_to_delete && sudo rm file_to_delete
[23:28] <nick327> ok
[23:28] <NeZZa> hey guys. how can i change my nick. where have I to put in /Nick
[23:28] <Gnea> NeZZa: /nick newnick
[23:28] <the_lost_one> sYskk, you can type mount on a terminal and see where its mounted the vmware tools, /media/cdrom it should contain a tar.gz file
[23:29] <newnick> NeZZa
[23:29] <nick327> it still says its read only
[23:29] <NeZZa> ok
[23:29] <nick327> anyway, i have to go
[23:29] <nick327> i'll be back in like half an hour
[23:29] <jrble819> I'm having trouble with my turtle beach catalina WDM/ENVY24 sound card... I am looking for a good driver or a way to get it working with ubuntu... anyone have any ideas?
[23:31] <jrble819> does anyone happen to know of any WDM / Envy24 sound drivers for ubuntu linux?
[23:32] <NeZZa> ok I understand this now
[23:32] <NeZZa> thx
[23:33] <retro89dsaffdsa> how do I set up wireless connection?
[23:34] <Gnea> !wifi | retro89dsaffdsa
[23:35] <Amministratore_> [23:35] <Amministratore_> [23:35] <Amministratore_> [23:35] <FloodBot2> Amministratore_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <Amministratore_> [23:35] <Amministratore_> [23:35] <Amministratore_> [23:35] <Amministratore_> [23:38] <jrble819> I'm having trouble with my turtle beach catalina WDM/ENVY24 sound card... I am looking for a good driver or a way to get it working with ubuntu... anyone have any ideas?
[23:40] <michelecs> Hi
[23:41] <sYskk> genii: neg. VMWare tools isnt a virtual machine, it's just a software you install on your virtualized OS
[23:41] <michelecs> I'm going to buy a webcam that is supported by Linux (the Quickcam e3500). Will the integrated microphone work?
[23:45] <Rideh> anyone gone through the single sign on tutuorial?
[23:45] <Rideh> questions regarding the SSL certs - documentation starts to get a lil fuzzy
[23:46] <_2Dum2Kno> Hello!
[23:47] <_2Dum2Kno> can someone help me with a  Ubuntu Server Issue?
[23:48] <KenBW2> im on a wubi install. would it screw things up if i temporarily unmounted /host?
[23:50] <the_lost_one> !ask | _2Dum2Kno
[23:50] <_2Dum2Kno> kk
[23:50] <the_lost_one> :)
[23:52] <_2Dum2Kno> Heres the Issue, it seems my issue is that the PHP5 install is not reading to apache2.2 right, its giving me a Unknown Error on line 0, also, i seem to be having issues with PROFTPD? can someone help me troubeshoot?
[23:53] <KenBW2> im on a wubi install. would it screw things up if i temporarily unmounted /host?
[23:53] <Bullterd> When I tar a file in a bash script, how do i tell it to overwrite any existing file ?
[23:54] <Bullterd> like if my script creates the tar /home/ollie/foo.tar - how do i get my bash script to overwrite it without asking me ?
[23:54] <kunwon1> Bullterd, you could just remove it first
[23:55] <magnetron> Bullterd→ isn't that the default?
[23:55] <Bullterd> I dunno
[23:55] <tekstacy> Can I install Ubuntu on a machine with an  Atom?
[23:55] <LjL> tekstacy: yes
[23:55] <MalfermitaKodo> tekstacy: yeah
[23:56] <magnetron> tekstacy→ yes.
[23:56] <tekstacy> YAY! My truck gets Ubuntu!
[23:56] <tekstacy> Thanks guys.
[23:56] <Bullterd> truck?!
[23:57] <tekstacy> Yeah, I am building a small machine for my truck.
[23:57] <magnetron> JUST an atom isn't enough
[23:57] <Bullterd> Ah, A carputer
[23:57] <the_lost_one> tekstacy, i have one, they rock
[23:57] <Bullterd> Touch screen mounted in dash =p
[23:58] <tekstacy> Yeah, found a cool 7" screen that works out of the box w linux
[23:58] <_786soul> Is it possible for me to install 2 operating systems on an SDHC card?
[23:58] <LjL> _786soul: if you partition it, i suppose...
[23:59] <genii> _786soul: Yes if there's room.
[23:59] <_786soul> genii: It is a 16GB card so I think it would be more than enough. Dual boot would work though?
[23:59] <tekstacy> Thanks everyone.   Off to order parts.
[23:59] <the_lost_one> tekstacy, im curious, which model is? i have the aspire one 150 Ab, 120 GB HDD


[09:28] <Kilos> lol
[09:28] <Kilos> o/
[09:29] <nicoz-> \o
[09:34] <Kilos> membership board meeting in 2 1/2 hours
[09:34] <Kilos> support your applicants
[09:36] <nicoz-> Kilos my ubuntu-it friends i think will apply in january, however i watch all the meetings :)
[09:37] <nicoz-> I also saw coredev the other day by Paride Legovini, Italian coredev: P
[09:40] <Kilos> oh , arent you supporting mr_pan
[09:40] <Kilos> oh no i am mixed up sorry
[09:41] <nicoz-> sure but I think he will show up in January too
[09:41] <nicoz-> :P
[09:41] <nicoz-> lol
[09:42] <Kilos> i have just been reading his info so its stuck in my head now
[10:26] <Mr_Pan> hi all
[10:28] <nicoz-> ;)
[10:28] <Kilos> hi Mr_Pan
[10:29] <Mr_Pan> Kilos, I will submit my candidacy in January after Carlin0
[10:30] <Kilos> Mr_Pan  looking forward to that meeting
[10:30] <nicoz-> ;)
[10:31] <nicoz-> are worth excellent experts Mr_pan and Carlino, I am pleased to be with them in ubu-it support
[10:31] <nicoz-> as well as being exquisite people
[10:32] <Kilos> they should apply same time
[10:32] <nicoz-> I told you, too
[15:05] <Mr_Pan> youngbin, congrats
[15:06] <youngbin> Thanks :Mr_Pan :)
[15:14] <Kilos> genii  I am so thirsty
[15:14]  * genii slides Kilos a large mug of fair trade Arabica
[15:15] <Kilos> genii  ty so much. you are a lifesaver
[15:15] <genii> :D
[15:15] <Kilos> cyber coffee keeps my head working
[15:18] <Kilos> Mr_Pan  apply same time as carlino
[15:18] <nicoz-> genii where are you from?
[15:20] <Mr_Pan> Kilos, ok
[15:20] <Mr_Pan> we waiting new calendar
[15:21] <Kilos> i go see
[15:21] <genii> nicoz-: Toronto, Canada
[15:22]  * genii slides nicoz- some Timbits
[15:22] <nicoz-> lol
[15:23] <Kilos> Mr_Pan  first thursday or third wednesday
[15:23] <Kilos> you 2 choose what times are best for you
[15:23] <nicoz-> genii I thought you were from the African continent too
[15:23] <Kilos> hhahaa
[15:24] <genii> I think we all are, if we trace the ancestors back far enough...
[15:25] <nicoz-> certainly
[15:25] <Kilos> the wiki is very slow today
[15:26] <Mr_Pan> Kilos next first thursday in 1st Januar :D
[15:26] <Kilos> better not that one
[15:27] <Kilos> try the wednesday
[15:27] <Kilos> same as todays one
[15:40] <Kilos> Mr_Pan  sorry. I am struggling a bit today. fill in your info tomorrow please
[15:41] <Mr_Pan> no probl
[16:42] <Kilos> pavlushka  how are you lad?
[16:43] <pavlushka> Kilos: I am good, how about you?
[16:43] <Kilos> ok thank you
[18:42] <Kilos> guys who wrote the bot meetingology?
[18:43] <Kilos> wrote/designed/developed
[20:01] <Kilos> oh my. no one running to help today


[01:50] <TheMuso> RAOF: I am pretty sure you made it with gnome-do.
[01:50] <TheMuso> My guideline with FF is when the topic in -devel changes, and the devel-announce email goes out.
[01:56] <RAOF> TheMuso: Mine, too. :)
[01:58] <micahg> another 16 hours until the freeze (18:00 UTC)
[02:02] <TheMuso> I thought it was at the start of Thursday.
[02:05] <micahg> TheMuso: yes, but skaet clarified it earlier in #ubuntu-devel
[02:05] <TheMuso> ah ok.
[02:05] <micahg> er, extended :)
[02:15] <bryce_> ooh sweet, then I can get a wayland update in
[03:57] <TheMuso> Yay, the window decorator for compiz is no longer accessible... Time to file a bug.
[04:02] <bjf> i'm thinking now is not a good time to get today's updates: an apt-get dist-upgrade says that "The following packages will be REMOVED: ubuntu-desktop"
[04:06] <TheMuso> bjf: Yeah language-selector is broken.
[04:07] <TheMuso> If you don't use it, its not too bad to remove it for now to get other updates you might want.
[04:07] <TheMuso> I just make sure to re-install ubuntu-desktop when I see a fixed version of the broken package get uploaded.
[04:08] <bjf> TheMuso, thanks
[04:32] <TheMuso> Youch, switching users from the session indicator punts you out of your own session.
[04:35] <TheMuso> Or more correctly, when you log out of the second user's session, you get logged out of your own.
[07:24] <pitti> Good morning
[07:25] <bryce_> heya
[07:26] <bryce_> pitti, my wayland source package got approved but I gather that the binary packages need separate approval?
[07:26] <RAOF> pitti: Good morning!
[07:27] <bryce_> pitti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland - amd64, armel, and i386 are built, is that enough or does ppc need to be built as well before archive admins can review?
[07:27] <pitti> bryce_: right
[07:28] <pitti> bryce_: we usually wait until all arches are built, but only ppc left should be fine
[07:53] <didrocks> good morning
[07:58] <Sweetshark> Good Morning!
[07:58] <RAOF> Good morning!
[08:02] <didrocks> good morning Sweetshark
[08:02] <pitti> hey Sweetshark
[08:23] <TheMuso> Yay, managed to land a nice feature for Orca users that will be beneficial given the desktop environments we are shipping for natty.
[08:24] <TheMuso> And with that, I call it a day.
[08:24] <pitti> TheMuso: nice! what does it do?
[08:24] <pitti> TheMuso: oh, sleep well!
[08:25] <TheMuso> pitti: When Orca starts up, it tells the user what desktop environment they are in, i.e unity or classic GNOME. I've also implemented a keystroke to give the user the same information after the fact.
[08:27] <pitti> TheMuso: oh, nice! so that you can tell apart gnome/gnome no effects/unity?
[08:27] <pitti> do you read out the session .desktop description?
[08:27] <pitti> s/do you/does it/
[08:28] <Sweetshark> pitti: Here is the status of the LO build: I botched one build (3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu1) by generating the control file on maverick, resulting in missing deps on natty, which I only saw after the upload. Since ubuntu1 was already tagged, I made a ubuntu2 with the fix and the buildd finished in the ppa 4 hours ago. However there are binary packages missing: libreoffice-java-common for example. I have a local build and all the deps are there,
[08:29] <Sweetshark> Any idea what could be happening there?
[08:29] <TheMuso> pitti: No, I am currently using the DESKTOP_SESSION env variable to get the gnome session name, and am informing the user based on that, so no processing of desktop files etc.
[08:30] <TheMuso> pitti: Long term, I want to push this upstream, and make sure all desktop environments where Orca can be used are available and reported to the user when they log into sed environment.
[08:30] <pitti> Sweetshark: you mean they weren't built in the i386 build? did they somehow got dropped from debian/control then?
[08:30] <pitti> Sweetshark: what's the URL of your PPA?
[08:32] <Sweetshark> I am using am64 currently
[08:32] <Sweetshark> pitti: here is the build log: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2282774
[08:32] <pitti> Sweetshark: ah, perhaps the i386 build is a bit behind and didn't finish yet? arch:all packages are only built once, by the i386 builder
[08:34] <TheMuso> pitti: and its more so that the user knows that things work different in unity compared to classic GNOME, with panels, launching apps, etc.
[08:34] <pitti> Sweetshark: right, i386 is still building
[08:34] <pitti> Sweetshark: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2282775
[08:35] <Sweetshark> pitti: I am only considering amd64 (the VirtualBox I am using the ppa from is also amd64). Also, it does not even show up in the build log.
[08:35] <Sweetshark> pitti: Aaahh, you mean *-java-common is arch-indep and thus only build on i386?
[08:36] <pitti> Sweetshark: right; "Architecture: all" packages are shared amongst all arches
[08:36] <pitti> Sweetshark: i. e. you must only build them once, otherwise you could end up with two different arch:all packages
[08:36] <Sweetshark> AAhh ...
[08:36] <pitti> and then you'd need to pick one :)
[08:36]  * Sweetshark calmes down a bit.
[08:36] <pitti> so they are generally built by the i386 buildds, and in exchange for the additional load we usually have a few more i386 builders than amd64
[08:37] <pitti> Sweetshark: FYI, that's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage -b and -B
[08:37] <pitti> i386 does -b, all others do -B
[08:37]  * pitti pats Sweetshark's shoulders, it's all good!
[08:38] <Sweetshark> pitti: we had something like that in the Sun OpenOffice build. However, it never worked well: All the "common" stuff was in one folder shared over all platforms. And then you would build over NFS.
[08:40] <ricotz> pitti, good morning, i saw you were working on the policykit-1 packaging, is it possible to sync the latest version 0.100-1 (debian exp)?
[08:40] <Sweetshark> And if two builder on two OS came into a race condition on the shared dir you would get "interesting" results.
[08:42] <Sweetshark> pitti: so, when 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 finishes in the ppa and is looking good, we should upload it asap to main, right? BTW I accidently tried to do that yesterday but was denied .,..
[08:43] <pitti> Sweetshark: I concur
[08:44] <pitti> ricotz: yes, mbiebl and I were talking about it yesterday; did you test it already?
[08:44] <pitti> if  not, I can test it now and sync
[08:44] <pitti> ricotz: we probably also need the new polkit-gnome as well, and merge that
[08:44] <kklimonda> good morning
[08:45] <ricotz> pitti, would be great if could test it
[08:45] <ricotz> i will be needed for the gnome3 stack
[08:48] <pitti> ricotz: hm, I don't see it on http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/policykit-1.html
[08:49] <pitti> ricotz: ah, but it's in git
[08:49] <ricotz> pitti, hmm, http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-utopia/policykit.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/experimental
[08:49] <ricotz> pitti, yes
[08:49] <rodrigo_> morning
[08:51] <pitti> rodrigo_: ah, it's in NEW
[08:52] <pitti> rodrigo_: so, will test/upload now
[08:52] <pitti> sorry, ricotz ^
[08:52] <pitti> rodrigo_: good morning
[08:53] <ricotz> pitti, great
[08:55] <kklimonda> hey rodrigo_
[08:58] <pitti> ricotz: ah, I guess you mainly need the GIR
[08:59] <pitti> ricotz: I think gnome-shell has its own PK agent built in, so you probably won't need pk-gnome 0.100 as urgently?
[09:01] <pitti> ricotz: so, no ABI/API changes and works fine with pk-gnome 0.99; up'ing
[09:03] <rodrigo_> bigon_, ping
[09:03] <ricotz> pitti, thanks, yes only policykit-1 is needed
[09:04] <bigon_> rodrigo_: hey
[09:04] <rodrigo_> hi bigon_
[09:04] <rodrigo_> bigon_, I see you uploaded an updated g-keyring package to the ppa, but not to the bzr branch?
[09:06] <bigon_> you want me to add the branch? I was not sure if I had to create a brand new branch or to use of clone the one of the official archive
[09:07] <rodrigo_> there are branches for ~gnome3-team -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team
[09:07] <rodrigo_> we use those for the packages in the ppa
[09:07] <rodrigo_> so please update those when you upload stuff
[09:08] <rodrigo_> if there is no ~gnome3-team branch, just branch from the normal ~ubuntu-desktop and then push to a ~gnome3-team branch
[09:09] <rodrigo_> if you don't update the ~gnome3-team branches, your changes will be discarded next time someone does an upload
[09:09] <bigon_> ok I will do that
[09:09] <rodrigo_> ok thanks
[09:10] <rodrigo_> hey seb128
[09:10] <seb128> hey rodrigo_
[09:11] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[09:11] <seb128> hey pitti
[09:11] <seb128> how are you?
[09:11] <pitti> I'm great, thanks! how about you?
[09:12] <seb128> I'm fine thanks
[09:13] <seb128> though a bit tired today, I didn't sleep very well, dunno why but I feel it
[09:31] <rodrigo_> hmm, the libpeas package in ~ubuntu-desktop/libpeas/ubuntu links to gtk3, is that the package in natty?
[09:31] <seb128> rodrigo_, yes
[09:31] <seb128> rodrigo_, libpeas is not used in GNOME 2.32
[09:31] <rodrigo_> seb128, ah ok
[09:31] <rodrigo_> I thought it was
[09:32] <seb128> libpeas-1.0-0 has no rdepends in natty
[09:32] <seb128> rodrigo_, btw any news about the nautilus crasher or the g-s-d race issue or the vino,avahi bug?
[09:33] <seb128> rodrigo_, those are assigned to you but seem to be mostly staled
[09:33] <rodrigo_> yes, going slowly on those, as I need to finish some unity-a11y stuff for today
[09:33] <rodrigo_> the vini avahi bug is assigned to avahi afair
[09:34] <rodrigo_> once I finish the unity stuff I'm doing, I'll go back to all of them
[09:34] <seb128> right, still we should try to debug those if upstream is not responsive
[09:34] <seb128> that can wait after the freezes though
[09:35] <seb128> rodrigo_, ok thanks, I'm just checking they are still somewhat on your list, no hurry, those are to fix for beta which let some time
[09:35] <rodrigo_> yeah, sorry, will get back to them asap
[09:35] <seb128> rodrigo_, the gdm guys bounced the g-s-d race back to g-s-d in case you didn't see
[09:35] <seb128> rodrigo_, no worry, thanks!
[09:36] <rodrigo_> oh didn't see it
[09:36]  * rodrigo_ looks
[09:36] <bigon_> rodrigo_: for pkg that where not in the repository before (like nautilus-sendto) should I create a new branch or clone an other one?
[09:36] <rodrigo_> bigon_, we usually branch from the ~ubuntu-desktop branch, and then push to a new ~gnome3-team branch
[09:37] <rodrigo_> seb128, ther gnome bug is still assigned to gdm
[09:38] <seb128> rodrigo_, ok, I've not tracked the bug but that was discussed on the gdm and g-c-c list
[09:38] <seb128> someone mailed those 2 lists recently about the same issue
[09:38] <bigon_> alright
[09:40] <rodrigo_> seb128, hmm, didn't see it then, when was that?
[09:41] <seb128> rodrigo_, thursday
[09:41] <rodrigo_> hmm
[09:41] <seb128> rodrigo_, it's the most recent discussion on the list
[09:41] <seb128> the only one which happened recently ;-)
[09:42] <rodrigo_> seb128, ok, I see it in the archives, I completely missed it :)
[09:44] <pitti> ricotz: binNEWed now, so it'll hit the archive in about 80 minutes
[09:44] <rodrigo_> seb128, ok, will look at it after I submit this branch
[09:48] <ricotz> pitti, thanks!
[10:08] <rodrigo_> TheMuso, ping
[10:14] <GunnarHj> pitti: Hi, seems like you cleaned up too much; not fair. ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/language-selector/misc/+merge/51096
[10:14] <pitti> GunnarHj: what? where? how?
[10:15] <pitti> GunnarHj: the only thing I touched in l-s is to fix the broken renaming to -gnome (but that wasn't you)
[10:16] <GunnarHj> pitti: No, but the stuff that Michael sponsored yesterday seems to have been reversed.
[11:08] <GunnarHj> pitti: There is some confusion as regards l-s uploads, I think. My theory is that lp:language-selector and lp:ubuntu/language-selector were not in sync when you fixed the name change issue, so the reversal just happened silently. If you browse the diff from your latest change at lp:ubuntu/language-selector, you'll understand what I'm talking about.
[11:08] <GunnarHj> pitti: I don't have web access to lp:language-selector right now (bug 719901), so I'm not quite sure...
[11:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 719901 in launchpad "Cannot view branch with revisions fixing private bugs" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719901
[11:10] <pitti> lp:ubuntu/language-selector shouldn't be pushed to
[11:10] <pitti> will look
[11:10] <pitti> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/language-selector/natty/revision/103
[11:11] <pitti> oh, indeed
[11:11] <pitti> it seems that someone forgot to push to the official branch
[11:11] <pitti> sorry, I didn't notice that
[11:11] <GunnarHj> pitti: No problem. :)
[11:16] <pitti> GunnarHj: uploaded
[11:17] <pitti> thanks
[11:17] <GunnarHj> pitti: Ditto. :)
[11:46] <GunnarHj> pitti: Sorry to be a pain, but now lp:language-selector is at v. 0.18, while lp:ubuntu/language-selector is at v. 0.17 (and the changes you just uploaded to lp:language-selector are not reflected in lp:ubuntu/language-selector). Is there possibly some kind of time lag, or is there a need for another step to make them become in sync?
[11:47] <pitti> GunnarHj: the latter shoudl be auto-imported from the distros; there is some lag, yes
[11:52] <fta> why do I have a floppy0 entry in the unity launcher? i don't even have that
[11:52] <pitti> fta: do you have one in udisks --dump?
[11:52] <GunnarHj> pitti: Ok, then I've something today too. :) Thanks!
[11:53] <fta> pitti, nope
[11:53] <pitti> GunnarHj: I might eventually just drop lp:language-selector and use lp:ubuntu/language-selector only; less branches, less confusion
[11:53] <pitti> the former has all the real history, though
[11:54] <GunnarHj> pitti: Ok. I know too little about it to have an opinion.
[11:56] <chrisccoulson_> hi seb128
[11:56] <chrisccoulson_> do you know if bug 723839 happened before the recent update too?
[11:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 723839 in libdbusmenu "valgrind: invalid read errors in widget_notify_cb()" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723839
[11:56] <chrisccoulson_> this one is a pain ;)
[12:02] <nessita> hello everyone!
[12:02] <pitti> arriva la manos!
[12:02] <pitti> hey nessita
[12:03] <nessita> hey pitti, how are you?
[12:03] <pitti> I'm great, thanks!
[12:03] <pitti> how about you?
[12:03] <nessita> pretty good! a bit sleepy still, but it'll get better
[12:18] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, hey how are you today?
[12:18] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, no but I can easily try
[12:18] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - tired ;)
[12:18] <seb128> hey nessita
[12:18] <chrisccoulson_> how are you?
[12:19] <nessita> hey seb128! how is it going?
[12:19] <seb128> I'm fine thanks
[12:19] <seb128> I'm fine thanks
[12:19] <seb128> ups
[12:19] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, do you want me to try with the version before your fix?
[12:20] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - that's ok, i can try that here. i wasn't sure if you already knew
[12:20] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, no, I decided to update to trunk and do a round of valgrind to see if there was remaining issues
[12:21] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, have you seen bug #724202
[12:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 724202 in libdbusmenu "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in image_notify_cb()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724202
[12:22] <chrisccoulson_> i'm seeing all sorts of problems with the latest dbusmenu :/
[12:22] <chrisccoulson_> a lot of menus in firefox stopped working too
[12:24] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, it's bug #723873
[12:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 723873 in indicator-messages "indicator menu items missing since the recent natty update" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723873
[12:25] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, revert r217
[12:25] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - ah, ok. thanks
[12:25] <seb128> well I didn't reconnect yesterday evening
[12:25]  * Sweetshark just finished building 3.3.1-1ubuntu1 while the uploaded 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 is still building in the ppa buildd.
[12:25] <seb128> seems ken updated the indicator, it still doesn't solve the original issue I reported though
[12:26] <Sweetshark> meh, cant help but think about the old competition between villa riva and villa bacho ...
[12:30] <pitti> hehe
[12:30] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, let me know if reverting that commit fixes your issues
[12:30] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, need to catchup with kenvandine and ted about that one
[12:30] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - will do, thanks
[12:31] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, so bug #724202
[12:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 724202 in libdbusmenu "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in image_notify_cb()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724202
[12:31] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, do you think it's the same issue that the one you were debugging yesterday?
[12:31] <seb128> or another one?
[12:32] <seb128> we should probably tackle one issue at the time
[12:32] <seb128> the parser seems quite buggy still thoguh
[12:32] <seb128> not mentioning the fresh issue with r217
[12:32] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - it looks like a different issue, but i'm just wondering if it's related to my commit yesterday ;)
[12:32] <chrisccoulson_> that touched the signal handler registration code
[12:33] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, I've not seen any of those before today
[12:33] <seb128> but we got 2 today
[12:33] <seb128> so I wouldn't be surprised if it was
[12:33] <chrisccoulson_> ok, i still get the invalid read in widget_notify_cb with the old version
[12:39] <nessita> seb128: quick question: am I missing something in this bug report in order to get a new source sponsored? bug #723139
[12:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 723139 in ubuntuone-file-storage-api "Please upload new source package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723139
[12:40] <seb128> nessita, yes, an ubuntu bug would be needed to have it showing on the ubuntu sponsoring
[12:40] <seb128> nessita, i.e "also affect distribution"
[12:40] <seb128> nessita, it's only on your upstream project right now, nothing we would notice from ubuntu
[12:40] <nessita> seb128: but I have no ubuntu distribution to link to
[12:41] <seb128> nessita, ?
[12:41] <seb128> nessita, click "also affect distribution" and then "continue"
[12:41] <seb128> nessita, that will add an "ubuntu" line in the bugs table
[12:41] <nessita> seb128: without a package name? crap, it was so simple
[12:42] <seb128> nessita, yes
[12:42] <nessita> I didn't realize the package name was optional :-D
[12:42] <seb128> ;-)
[12:42] <seb128> now it will show on the sponsoring queue
[12:42] <nessita> thanks!
[12:43] <seb128> you're welcome
[12:43] <seb128> nessita, I will try to review it later if nobody else did but I'm quite busy today
[12:43] <seb128> nessita, you can try pinging mdeslaur when he's online, he's patch pilot today
[12:43] <seb128> rodrigo_ is patch pilot as well but he has no upload rights so he can't sponsor it for you
[12:43] <fta> pitti, should i file a bug about that floppy0?
[12:44] <rodrigo_> seb128, I'm what?
[12:44] <nessita> seb128: perfect, I'll do that. Good luck with all you tasks!
[12:44] <seb128> rodrigo_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReview
[12:44] <pitti> fta: sorry, missed your "nope"; if it's not in udisks, and not in /etc/fstab, then it's a weird unity bug; please file it, I don't have it
[12:44] <seb128> rodrigo_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews
[12:44] <seb128> rodrigo_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews#Patch%20Pilots
[12:45] <seb128> rodrigo_, you should have received a gcalendar notice when dholbach set you up in the calendar
[12:45] <fta> pitti, oh, it's in the fstab, not sure why, that box never had a floppy drive
[12:45] <seb128> rodrigo_, each canonical employee is supposed to do half a day a month of patches reviews and sponsoring
[12:46] <rodrigo_> seb128, ah, ok
[12:46] <seb128> rodrigo_, today is your day it seems
[12:46] <seb128> nessita, thanks!
[12:47] <rodrigo_> seb128, where is the list of people doing it?
[12:48] <seb128> rodrigo_, see <IP_ADDRESS>. Schedule
[12:48] <seb128> rodrigo_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:48] <rodrigo_> ok
[12:50] <Sweetshark> ah, the 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 build just finished in the ppa! Anyone willing to sacrifice himself^W^W^W test this awesome new piece of software?
[12:51] <Sweetshark> ah, oh, hang on
[12:51] <Sweetshark> no, it not done yet.
[12:52]  * Sweetshark wonders if there is a way to make libreoffice buildds not end up on machines that take >12 hours on i386 to build it.
[12:53] <seb128> don't blame it on the buildds :p
[12:54] <Sweetshark> seb128: who else? Libreoffice is a tightly packed, compact masterpiece of software engineering ;)
[13:25] <seb128> pitti, new dbus (http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2011-February/014122.html) might be nice to try to get in natty?
[13:27] <seb128> pitti, do you think you would have time to work on the update or would be interested by it?
[13:36] <davmor2> guys on classic gnome I think there is an issues regards the system fan.  unity desktop the fan kicks in from time to time, on classic it's on permanent and is throwing some heat out too
[13:43] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - oh, your widget_notify_cb memory error is happening because the menuitems parent gets destroyed before itself, so the pointer returned from "g_object_get_data (G_OBJECT (child), "dbusmenu-parent");" is invalid
[13:43] <chrisccoulson_> not sure how that happens though :/
[13:44]  * kenvandine waves, happy feature freeze day everyone
[13:44] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, I got the issue by closing the dialog before it was on screen if that makes any difference
[13:44] <seb128> hey kenvandine
[13:44] <seb128> kenvandine, how are you?
[13:44] <kenvandine> a little tired, but good
[13:44] <kenvandine> :)
[13:44] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, like valgrind is slow enough that I could use the menu again and pick "close" before it was done displaying it
[13:47] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - i can get the issue by closing the dialog, even after it's appeared
[13:48] <chrisccoulson_> as long as i close it from the menu and not from the titlebar
[13:48] <seb128> ok
[13:48] <seb128> kenvandine, what is the deal with the libdbusmenu breakage
[13:48] <seb128> kenvandine, your indicator-messages update doesn't address the original issue I described
[13:49] <seb128> kenvandine, it's not the only indicator to be broken
[13:49] <kenvandine> seb128, ted thinks that was just a bug in indicator-messages
[13:49] <kenvandine> seb128, i couldn't find that breakage anywhere else
[13:49] <kenvandine> neither could ted
[13:49] <seb128> kenvandine, no, the bug I described is that gnome-bt appindicator lost half its items
[13:49] <kenvandine> yeah, i couldn't reproduce that
[13:49] <seb128> kenvandine, did any of you even read my bug report?
[13:49] <seb128> kenvandine, you turned bt off and on in the indicator?
[13:49] <kenvandine> i did...
[13:50] <seb128> weird
[13:50] <seb128> chrisccoulson_ also has issues with the update
[13:50] <seb128> kenvandine, do you have any device configured?
[13:50] <kenvandine> oh wait, now today after dist-upgrade and reboot i see it in gnome-bt!
[13:50] <kenvandine> damn!
[13:50] <chrisccoulson_> yeah, gnome-bluetooth is pretty broken here
[13:50] <kenvandine> ted and i talked about it, neither of us saw that problem
[13:50] <chrisccoulson_> and firefox is too
[13:51] <kenvandine> seb128, ok... so we need to jump on ted when he shows up :)
[13:51] <chrisccoulson_> the sensitivity of a lot of menu items in firefox is not updating correctly now
[13:51] <seb128> kenvandine, did you restart indicator-applications-service yesterday?
[13:51] <kenvandine> i rebooted even
[13:51] <seb128> ok, weird then
[13:51] <chrisccoulson_> (eg, highlight some text and open the edit menu, and the copy/cut items are not sensitive)
[13:51] <kenvandine> but i wasn't completely updated and all
[13:51] <seb128> it's broken in a consistent way here
[13:51] <kenvandine> but dbusmenu was breaking messaing menu for me
[13:51] <kenvandine> very odd
[13:52] <seb128> kenvandine, the box I use has not been updated this week
[13:52] <seb128> I just did pick the libdbusmenu upgrade yesterday
[13:52] <kenvandine> ted said the same thing...
[13:52] <seb128> so it's not due to another update
[13:52] <kenvandine> ok
[13:52] <seb128> I could also confirm the issue by tweaking ld_library_path and reverting or not r217
[13:52] <seb128> that's how I tried the bug first and find the buggy revision
[13:53] <seb128> using gnome-bt
[13:53] <seb128> so you don't need a service restart, just the appindicator client
[13:53] <kenvandine> i have the revert of 217 prepared for upload
[13:53] <seb128> let's try to get the thing fixed rather
[13:53] <seb128> we need to move in the right direction ;-)
[13:54] <kenvandine> ted seemed to think the dbusmenu change uncovered a bug in the indicators
[13:54] <kenvandine> although he was confident it was only indicator-messages, but maybe it is others too
[13:54] <kenvandine> s/maybe//
[13:54] <kenvandine> :)
[13:56] <seb128> kenvandine, well gnome-bt is broken for sure, I didn't notice other issues
[13:59] <pitti> seb128: have a call now, but happy to look at new dbus afterwards
[13:59] <seb128> pitti, ok great, thanks
[14:10] <chrisccoulson_> ok, i'm totally confused now
[14:10] <chrisccoulson_> tedg, a DbusmenuMenuitem shouldn't normally out-live its parent should it?
[14:10] <seb128> tedg, !!!
[14:10] <seb128> tedg, hey ;-)
[14:10] <chrisccoulson_> it's all tedg's fault!
[14:10] <chrisccoulson_> :P
[14:10] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, Uhm, well, there's reasons it could...
[14:11] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson_, what menus are missing for firefox?
[14:11] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, Things like if it's in an idle callback or being used for something else.
[14:11] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, But, it should clean up relatively quickly after.
[14:11] <chrisccoulson_> kenvandine, the sensitivity is messed up for most of the edit menu. also, the "restore previous session" menu entry is never sensitive now
[14:12] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - that seems to be what is happening in bug 723839
[14:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 723839 in libdbusmenu "valgrind: invalid read errors in widget_notify_cb()" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723839
[14:12] <kenvandine> ok, so for appmenu there seems to be sensitivity issues
[14:12] <kenvandine> that is a little different than bug 723873
[14:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 723873 in indicator-messages "indicator menu items missing since the recent natty update" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723873
[14:12] <chrisccoulson_> by the time widget_notify_cb is called, that particular menuitems parent has already gone
[14:13] <chrisccoulson_> so, the "dbusmenu-parent" data is invalid
[14:13] <kenvandine> seb128, i just figured out why i couldn't find the problem in gnome-bt, at the time i tested... i had the reverted 217 dbusmenu installed for testing
[14:13] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, That seems like a case we should handle....
[14:13] <seb128> kenvandine, lol
[14:13] <kenvandine> later when i patched indicator-messages i downgraded that to test it :)
[14:14] <kenvandine> tedg, it's still broken...
[14:14] <cdbs> Is nautilus broken in Natty?
[14:14] <tedg> kenvandine, Hmm, it works for me...
[14:14] <kenvandine> in gnome-bt?
[14:14] <kenvandine> you see those device menus?
[14:15] <seb128> cdbs, no
[14:15] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - yeah. i'm trying to work out why it's happened though :)
[14:15] <cdbs> seb128: wierd: Nautilus doesn't open for me
[14:15] <chrisccoulson_> i'm just sticking printf's everywhere atm ;)
[14:15] <seb128> tedg, try turning bt off and an, you should lack items and the menus should be empty for devices
[14:15] <cdbs> though the desktop works well, until I open the file manager window
[14:15] <seb128> cdbs, what error?
[14:16] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, There are good reasons it'd happen.  Like if it updated properties and that's still in the idle, the idle process will keep a reference.
[14:16] <cdbs> seb128: simply no output
[14:16] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - ah, ok. that does make sense
[14:16] <cdbs> seb128: okay, I get this error (wait until I pastebin)
[14:16] <chrisccoulson_> ok, i get it now :)
[14:17] <cdbs> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/571740/
[14:18] <cdbs> seb128: when I just type nautilus in terminal, no output comes, and desktop gets restored. I get those DBus errors when I run nautilus in another window i.e. try to open a window of it
[14:18] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - should DbusmenuMenuitemPrivate have a parent member? (that could just be a weak pointer)
[14:18] <chrisccoulson_> rather than doing the g_object_set_data stuff in the parser
[14:18] <seb128> cdbs, sorry I'm busy fixing unity breakage
[14:18] <cdbs> seb128: and, those errors actually come in the terminal window where the nautilus instance was runnong
[14:18] <cdbs> seb128: :o, sorry
[14:19] <seb128> could you please stop highlight me and just write on the channel?
[14:19] <seb128> thanks
[14:20] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, I've thought about it... I'm not sure.  The original use as the thought that there could be more than one parent or some such, which seems silly today.  So, I guess, in general, I'm not against it but it might be a pretty big change.
[14:20] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - it's not possible for a widget to have more than one parent in GTK is it?
[14:21] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, Nope
[14:26] <chrisccoulson_> tedg - i'll look at how much work it is to add a parent member to DbusmenuMenuitem. I think that would be the cleanest fix for that, even if it's more work
[14:31] <tedg> chrisccoulson_, Okay
[14:37] <seb128> tedg, so, did you try gnome-bt?
[14:39] <tedg> seb128, No, I haven't.  Trying to catch up from the European morning still :)
[14:39] <seb128> k
[14:47] <mterry> didrocks, do peeps know about the accessibility crash in unity?
[14:48] <mterry> I can't start unity anymore after updating the gnome desktop schemas today
[14:48] <didrocks> mterry: yeah, revert to previous gsettings-*
[14:48] <didrocks> one sec, looking for the package name
[14:48] <mterry> didrocks, sure, just making sure someone was on it  :)
[14:48] <mterry> packaging should have a breaks: unity or something
[14:48] <didrocks> gsettings-desktop-schemas
[14:49] <didrocks> seb128 is supposed to upload with the Breaks: now :)
[14:49] <seb128> didrocks, it has been uploaded already
[14:49] <didrocks> ok, nice!
[14:50] <mterry> didrocks, but there's a new unity coming today too that'd fix it for realz, and have shiny new features right?
[14:50] <didrocks> mterry: right
[14:50] <seb128> hey mterry
[14:50] <didrocks> new compiz
[14:50] <didrocks> new bunch of packages
[14:50] <didrocks> :)
[14:50]  * mterry likes shiny things
[14:50] <mterry> seb128, hi  :)
[14:51] <mterry> seb128, btw, I filed the datetime preferences merge yesterday.  hopefully it will be merged today, as tedg knows about it.  A little rough around the edges, but the UI is there and works
[14:51] <seb128> mterry, great
[14:51] <seb128> mterry, not sure if tedg running out just after you said that is a sign though...
[14:52] <mterry> :)
[14:53] <seb128> mterry, you can consider yourself luck, the datetime work means you are avoiding getting the recent libdbusmenu crashers assigned to you ;-)
[14:53] <seb128> mdeslaur, hey, did you see nessita's sponsoring request?
[14:54] <nessita> hi mdeslaur!
[14:54] <nessita> mdeslaur: request is bug #723139
[14:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 723139 in ubuntu "Please upload new source package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723139
[14:54] <mdeslaur> seb128, nessita: I am taking at look at that as we speak!
[14:54] <nessita> mdeslaur: awesome
[14:55] <nessita> seb128: thanks for the reminder! (you have a lot of ram, don't you?)
[14:55]  * nessita swaps very often
[14:55] <mdeslaur> nessita: so...I guess you want this to be a native package, right? you're not going to release tarballs?
[14:55] <nessita> mdeslaur: hum, I will be releasing tarballs
[14:56] <nessita> mdeslaur: I set the name to be 0.0.1-0ubuntu1, right?
[14:56]  * nessita confirms
[14:56] <nessita> yeah, I did
[14:57] <seb128> nessita, ;-)
[14:57] <nessita> mdeslaur: and the 0.0.1 tarball release is in place
[14:59] <mdeslaur> nessita: ah, yes ok
[15:00] <seb128> rodrigo_, pitti: sorry I was wrong yesterday, rodrigo_'s patch is in the series, I didn't notice the second one on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/64882990/nautilus_1%3A<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu5_1%3A<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.diff.gz
[15:00] <seb128> rodrigo_, ok, so the workaround doesn't work...
[15:00] <nessita> mdeslaur: :-)
[15:01] <mdeslaur> nessita: lintian is giving me copyright-without-copyright-notice
[15:01]  * nessita checks
[15:01] <mdeslaur> nessita: could you please fix that, and I'll pull it down again?
[15:02] <nessita> weird, lintian was all good for me, but I'll fix of xourse
[15:02] <nessita> course*
[15:02] <rodrigo_> seb128, ok
[15:04] <pitti> seb128: ah, good to know; so no followup upload necessary?
[15:04] <seb128> pitti, not from you
[15:04] <seb128> I will reopen the bug
[15:04] <nessita> mdeslaur: lintian is giving me no warning as per http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/571765/
[15:05] <seb128> nessita, the watch file doesn't work, it doesn't fetch the tarball on bzr bd for some reason
[15:06] <nessita> seb128: do you have a trace?
[15:06] <seb128> nessita, mdeslaur: oh, don't upload that
[15:06] <seb128> nessita, mdeslaur: it lacks a LICENSE or COPYING
[15:06]  * nessita runs
[15:06] <seb128> i.e the GPL3 text
[15:06] <seb128> it's not distributable
[15:06] <seb128> nessita, you need to ship a copy of the GPL in your source
[15:07] <nessita> right!
[15:07]  * nessita adds
[15:07] <mdeslaur> nessita: I'm not sure why your lintian isn't picking that up...odd
[15:07] <nessita> seb128: but that is not related with the watch file issue you're having, right?
[15:07] <seb128> nessita, no it's not
[15:08] <seb128> nessita, bah, it was an issue on my side ignore that
[15:08] <nessita> ack
[15:08]  * nessita pushes COPYING
[15:08] <seb128> nessita, the license issue remains ;-)
[15:08] <nessita> sure, my bad
[15:11] <mdeslaur> nessita: could you also please add "Copyright: 2011 Natalia B. Bidart<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Canonical Ltd." to the debian/copyright file, under Files: *
[15:11] <mdeslaur> nessita: (or something similar)
[15:11] <tedg> dobey, Is there a way to make gtk-doc ignore C files?
[15:11] <nessita> mdeslaur: sure, is that mandatory? (I wanna learn for other packages)
[15:12] <mdeslaur> nessita: well, my lintian warns about it...I'm not sure why your doesn't...are you still running maverick?
[15:12] <nessita> mdeslaur: nopes, this is a fresh natty install (2 days old)
[15:14]  * Sweetshark reboots to maverick
[15:14] <mdeslaur> seb128: does your lintian report that?
[15:14] <dobey> tedg: what do you mean?
[15:14] <tedg> dobey, It's picking up the docs in a C file that is connected to an h file that I've ignored.
[15:15] <tedg> dobey, I don't want either set of docs in my docs (as the object isn't public)
[15:15] <nessita> mdeslaur: your lintian error is obviously correct, I wonder mine will not complain
[15:15] <mdeslaur> nessita: it's weird...I don't know
[15:17] <dobey> tedg: name the file something that doesn't get caught by the glob you defined i guess
[15:18] <mdeslaur> nessita: let me know when you've updated your tree
[15:18] <tedg> dobey, Hmm, that doesn't work because the glob actually doesn't get passed to the scanner, it's only used for the make file deps :(  Looks like I'm just going to change all my "/**" to be "/*"
[15:18] <pitti> seb128: I'll merge 1.4.6 with Debian then
[15:19] <dobey> tedg: hrmm. ok. i was just looking at what we do for libsyncdaemon. rodrigo_ probably knows more about gtk-doc than i do though
[15:19] <seb128> pitti, great, thanks
[15:19] <dobey> i just know that the makefile deps bits are in face broken, and i have a branch i need to get finished, to fix that
[15:19] <bcurtiswx> seb128, apt-get install gsettings-desktop-schemas=0.1.7-1 doesn't work in downgrading GDS  is there something special i have to do if there isn't an 0ubuntu1
[15:19] <tedg> dobey, I've just made a local copy that's fixed :)
[15:19] <rodrigo_> dobey, what's wrong with libsyncdaemon's gtk-doc?
[15:19] <seb128> bcurtiswx, 0.1.7 is the buggy version
[15:20] <tedg> rodrigo_, I was trying to figure out how to ignore C files.
[15:20] <bcurtiswx> it doesn't see 0.1.5 either
[15:20] <seb128> bcurtiswx, you want to grab the previous one from launchpad
[15:20] <bcurtiswx> seb128, OK
[15:20] <rodrigo_> tedg, hmm, there's IGNORE_HFILES, so maybe there's a IGNORE_CFILES?
[15:21] <dobey> rodrigo_: nothing specific to libsyncdaemon is wrong wrt gtk-doc
[15:22] <dobey> rodrigo_: but gtk-doc itself is broken. but that's irrelevant to what tedg was asking about :)
[15:22] <rodrigo_> heh
[15:22] <tedg> rodrigo_, Can't find one.  I'll hack around it.  I was just seeing if there was an easy way I was missing first.
[15:26] <seb128> rodrigo_, so I don't get how you don't get the nautilus crash, I edited /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache on a working natty, deleted the 6 lines of the svg loaders, nautilus --quit, nautilus /usr/share/applications -> crash
[15:26] <seb128> rodrigo_, what theme do you use? an ubuntu one?
[15:27] <rodrigo_> seb128, hmm, yes, humanity-dark iirc
[15:27] <rodrigo_> but on the virtual machine I use the default
[15:27] <rodrigo_> will try again
[15:27] <seb128> crash with the GNOME theme the same way
[15:28] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - w00t, fixed your invalid read \o/
[15:28] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, waouh
[15:28] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, which one? ;-)
[15:28]  * seb128 runs
[15:28] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - bug 723839
[15:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 723839 in libdbusmenu "valgrind: invalid read errors in widget_notify_cb()" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723839
[15:29] <chrisccoulson_> well, i can't reproduce it anymore anyway ;)
[15:29] <chrisccoulson_> and i don't seem to have introduced any more bugs ;)
[15:29] <nessita> mdeslaur: Pushed up to revision 6. :-)
[15:29] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, right, I know which one, I was just joking ;-)
[15:29] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, now to get tedg to review the fix
[15:29] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, then you can switch to the other crashers :p
[15:32] <rodrigo_> seb128, installing yesterday's iso now
[15:33] <seb128> #5  0x081418ed in nautilus_icon_info_lookup (icon=0x91ff520, size=48)
[15:33] <seb128> nautilus-icon-info.c:399
[15:33] <seb128>         lookup_key = {filename = 0x0, size = 48}
[15:33] <seb128> rodrigo_, I guess that's the filename being NULL which is the issue
[15:33] <jcastro> didrocks: do you know who is supposed to update tomboy to use libunity so quicklists work?
[15:33] <mdeslaur> nessita: uploaded. :)
[15:33] <seb128> jcastro: do we have c# libunity bindings?
[15:34] <jcastro> I don't think we do
[15:34] <rodrigo_> seb128, right, so my patch was preventing calling g_str_hash with that
[15:34] <didrocks> jcastro: no, there isn't C# binding
[15:34] <rodrigo_> seb128, but hold on, I'll do some debugging on the iso
[15:34] <seb128> rodrigo_, doesn't seem to work, I still get the bug
[15:34] <rodrigo_> ok
[15:34] <seb128> rodrigo_, ok, let me know if you have details
[15:34] <chrisccoulson_> seb128 - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/dbusmenu/more-memory-fixes/revision/221
[15:35] <seb128> rodrigo_, I can get the issue on my normal system by doing what I described before
[15:35] <nessita> mdeslaur: YEY! thanks so much!
[15:35] <mdeslaur> nessita: welcome :P
[15:35] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, rocking work!
[15:36] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, don't forget to do a merge request
[15:36] <seb128> chrisccoulson_, so ted get it in today's tarball
[15:36] <chrisccoulson_> yeah, will do
[15:36] <seb128> thanks
[15:38] <seb128> rodrigo_,
[15:38] <seb128> "		lookup_key.filename = (char *)filename;
[15:38] <seb128> 		lookup_key.size = size;
[15:38] <seb128> 		icon_info = g_hash_table_lookup (themed_icon_cache, &lookup_key);"
[15:38] <seb128> ...
[15:40] <seb128> rodrigo_, it seems it's gtk_icon_info_get_filename (gtkicon_info) which returns null for some reason
[15:49] <rodrigo_> seb128, hmm, the daily iso doesn't have the svg loader in loaders.cache, and it doesn't crash for me
[15:49] <rodrigo_> seb128, but yeah, I think I've spotted where to fix it
[15:50] <seb128> rodrigo_, ok, I'm rebuilding it
[15:50] <seb128> rodrigo_, I want to know what icon makes it crash
[15:51] <micahg> ricotz: congrats on getting gnome-shell to build against xulrunner-2.0
[15:53] <ricotz> micahg, build against 2.0 since half an year ;), i think
[15:54] <micahg> ricotz: that's great news, that's one of the reasons I kept pushing it off :-/
[15:56] <ricotz> micahg, no guaranty that is actually runs, i currenty can test it here
[15:56] <ricotz> ... cant
[15:57] <seb128> rodrigo_, it crashes on the gwibber item
[15:58] <seb128> rodrigo_, copying gwibber.desktop in a directory with +x makes nautilus crash when browsing this dir
[16:01] <rodrigo_> seb128, hmm
[16:01] <rodrigo_> seb128, so, the filename is null for the gwibber icon?
[16:02] <seb128> rodrigo_, yes, which is logic
[16:02] <rodrigo_> ok, so we just need to guard against looking up when filename is NULL
[16:02] <seb128> rodrigo_, since the only gwibber icon on disk is a .svg
[16:02] <seb128> rodrigo_, I don't get why it's not happening on your install though, trying to write a test program now
[16:03] <seb128> rodrigo_, do you have a gwibber.png somewhere?
[16:04] <rodrigo_> yes, under /usr/share/gwibbwe
[16:04] <seb128> /usr/share/gwibber/ui/gwibber.png you mean?
[16:04] <rodrigo_> yes
[16:04] <seb128> that's not in the standard path
[16:04] <seb128> that should not count
[16:07] <rodrigo_> seb128, can you build and test this -> lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/nautilus/really-fix-crash ?
[16:07] <rodrigo_> oh wait, seems I got it to crash now
[16:07] <rodrigo_> so testing the fix myself
[16:09] <rodrigo_> if that works, I'll cook a better patch for upstream
[16:11] <seb128> rodrigo_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/571782/
[16:11] <seb128> rodrigo_, can you build and run that on your box?
[16:11] <rodrigo_> yes
[16:12] <seb128> rodrigo_, it gives "(null)" if the svg loader is broken there, "/usr/share/pixmaps/gwibber.svg" if it works
[16:12] <seb128> doh, I've been mixed tabs and spaces it seems :p
[16:14] <rodrigo_> no problem, I will run it anyway :)
[16:14] <RoAkSoAx> does anyone by any chance have a Desktop ISO image from a few days ago?
[16:14] <seb128> RoAkSoAx, I've one from yesterday
[16:14] <rodrigo_> ok, so I don't have gwibber here, that's why it doesn't crash on my box but does on the vm
[16:14] <RoAkSoAx> seb128: me too, can't install with that one :(
[16:14] <rodrigo_> seb128, let me run it on the vm
[16:14] <seb128> rodrigo_, but you said the daily iso doesn't crash for you either
[16:15] <seb128> rodrigo_, thanks
[16:15] <rodrigo_> seb128, yeah, but now it crashes
[16:15] <rodrigo_> yesterday's iso
[16:15] <seb128> rodrigo_, oh, so now you get the crash
[16:15] <rodrigo_> yes
[16:15] <seb128> rodrigo_, we explained why you don't get the issue on your box as well
[16:15] <rodrigo_> yes
[16:15] <rodrigo_> although why it crashes only on the gwibber icon?
[16:16] <rodrigo_> because it doesn't have a png, I guess
[16:16] <rodrigo_> ?
[16:16] <rodrigo_> and all the others do?
[16:16] <seb128> I guess because it's an /usr/share/pixmap svg icon
[16:16] <seb128> not sure why it gets G ThemedIcon if it's not in an icon theme
[16:16] <seb128> GThemedIcon
[16:17] <seb128> shouldn't those be only for icons from an icon theme, i.e /usr/share/icons
[16:17] <seb128> respecting the icon theme spec
[16:17] <rodrigo_> yes, I think so
[16:17] <seb128> well I guess that's the issue then
[16:17] <seb128> you might want to try to figure that if you want to find the real nautilus bug ;-)
[16:18] <rodrigo_> seb128, building the package now on the vm to see if that's the issue
[16:18] <rodrigo_> s/issue/fix
[16:18]  * RoAkSoAx weird... the image doesn't fail in a VM
[16:18] <seb128> rodrigo_, still crashes with lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/nautilus/really-fix-crash
[16:20] <seb128> rodrigo_, but in different lines it seems
[16:21] <rodrigo_> in themed_icon_key_new?
[16:23] <seb128> rodrigo_, it seems yes
[16:24] <rodrigo_> yes, filename keeps being NULL, so it will fail there
[16:24]  * rodrigo_ cooks a better patch
[16:24] <seb128> rodrigo_, you should perhaps try to figure why it thinks the icon is a GThemedIcon if it's not
[16:25] <seb128> rodrigo_,  but anyway you should have enough details know to work on the bug or to get it on your work box
[16:26] <rodrigo_> well, I think it thinks it's a themed icon because it's in /usr/share/pixmaps, which is the fallback, afaik
[16:26] <rodrigo_> dobey, ^^
[16:27] <dobey> huh?
[16:27] <rodrigo_> dobey, when asking for a themed icon ("gwibber"), if it can't find it in /usr/share/icons, it looks for it in /usr/share/pixmaps, right?
[16:28] <dobey> the icon theme spec makes the old /usr/share/pixmaps/foo.{png,svg,xpm} a last ditch attempt to find the icon, yes
[16:28] <rodrigo_> ok, so that's why it thinks it's a themed icon, because it's the fallback place to look for those icons
[16:30] <chrisccoulson_> wow, jo has washed and polished our car today!
[16:30] <chrisccoulson_> saved me a job at the weekend ;)
[16:45] <rodrigo_> seb128, ok, fixed!
[16:45] <seb128> rodrigo_, great
[16:47] <rodrigo_> seb128, pushing to lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/nautilus/really-fix-crash if you want to test before I propose it
[16:50] <seb128> rodrigo_, I'm on other things and I've a catchup with jasoncwarner in 10 minutes, can't you install gwibber and test it locally?
[16:50] <seb128> rodrigo_, otherwise just submit for review
[16:50] <rodrigo_> seb128, already done
[16:50] <pitti> seb128: ugh, that bloody dbus took me almost 2 hours.. but done now
[16:51] <rodrigo_> seb128, filing an upstream bug now with the patch
[16:53] <seb128> rodrigo_, great, do you think it's a correct fix for them as well now?
[16:53] <rodrigo_> seb128, yes, I think so
[16:53] <seb128> pitti, thanks for getting it done
[16:53] <seb128> pitti, they listed like 5 lp bugs in their news so it feeled like we should get it ;-)
[16:53] <rodrigo_> seb128, I just added code to do the same they do if the icon is not found in the theme, which is to return a generic icon
[16:54] <rodrigo_> seb128, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643208
[16:54] <ubot2> Gnome bug 643208 in Views: All "Nautilus crashes when SVG loader is borked" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[16:56] <bcurtiswx> seb128, http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/empathy/2.33/empathy-2.33.2.news I wont' be able to get to that until at least tuesday.  Plus I don't know if you want to enable telepathy-farstream like it states in the NEWS
[16:57] <bcurtiswx> so I will get to it then, unless somebody wants to before then :)
[16:57] <seb128> ok
[17:00] <rodrigo_> ok, branch ready -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/nautilus/really-fix-crash/+merge/51172
[17:00] <rodrigo_> so can someone review, merge and upload, please?
[17:00] <seb128> rodrigo_, will do
[17:00] <rodrigo_> seb128, thanks
[17:01] <rodrigo_> ok,now I'll move to do some patch pilot'ing
[17:03] <rodrigo_> seb128, ugh, wait, I forgot the changelog
[17:04] <rodrigo_> seb128, hmm, there's an UNRELEASED entry in debian/changelog, are you in the middle of an update?
[17:04] <seb128> rodrigo_, no, I just commited a small patch
[17:05] <rodrigo_> seb128, so, that's submitted already?
[17:06] <seb128> rodrigo_, yes, I just didn't want to do an upload for that so I queued it in the vcs
[17:07] <rodrigo_> seb128, ok, I'll add my entry to that
[17:07] <rodrigo_> ok, ready now
[17:08] <seb128> rodrigo_, thanks
[17:22] <cyphermox> nessita, just curious, if it a known issue that one would get recurrent notifications about Ubuntu One connection lost/connected, or is it because my connection is somehow too flaky?
[17:25] <chrisccoulson_> cyphermox, oh, i was going to report a bug about that
[17:25] <chrisccoulson_> i went with constant notifications for nearly 15 minutes a couple of days ago
[17:25] <chrisccoulson_> seriously annoying ;)
[17:25] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson_, yeah, tell me about it ;)
[17:25] <chrisccoulson_> one after the other. i'm sure the notifications had burned in to my screen by the time they finished :)
[17:25] <cyphermox> hehe
[17:26] <cyphermox> lost, then reacquired, and sync complete?
[17:26] <chrisccoulson_> cyphermox, just lost and then reacquired
[17:26] <chrisccoulson_> i've never seen one that tells me the sync is complete
[17:27] <cyphermox> chrisccoulson_, heh, maybe it's due to my extensive use of tomboy notes now.
[17:30] <nessita> cyphermox: hi there!
[17:30] <nessita> cyphermox: the connection between syncdaemon and our servers is really bad today
[17:31] <nessita> cyphermox: that meaning, our servers are misbehaving son they disconnect the syncdaemons
[17:31] <cyphermox> nessita, ok
[17:32] <cyphermox> nessita, any way we can turn off the notifications?
[17:32] <nessita> cyphermox: yes sir. Are you running an up-to-date natty?
[17:32] <cyphermox> mostly up to date
[17:32] <cyphermox> I haven't updated today though ;)
[17:33] <nessita> cyphermox: you may need to, but let's try with what you have: run the ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk (either System -> Preferences -> Ubuntu One or via the messaging menu)
[17:33] <nessita> cyphermox: then, go to devices, and disable the notifications for your current device
[17:34] <cyphermox> ahh, thanks
[17:34] <cyphermox> doesn't seem to be there but I must need an update
[17:34] <rodrigo_> my first patch pilot thing -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-settings-daemon/fix-666806/+merge/51177 <- please someone review/merge/upload
[17:35] <nessita> cyphermox: then yes, you need an update. The new control panel was uploaded yesterday
[17:37]  * nessita reboots
[17:40] <cyphermox> thanks, nessita
[17:40] <nessita> cyphermox: did it work?
[17:41] <cyphermox> haven
[17:41] <cyphermox> haven't done the update yet, I will, soon
[17:41] <nessita> let me know!
[17:45] <Sweetshark> pitti: I just putted a 3.3.1-1ubuntu1 for natty and maverick in the ppa. The freaking i386 build for the rc2 build did not finish yet, but I did not want to wait any longer. Maybe we'll hit a faster builder this time :/
[17:47] <didrocks> mterry: kenvandine: I'll rebuild deja-dup, xchat-*indicator and empathy: now that we have consumers, we are more reasonable on ABI/API and so do tracking :)
[17:47] <kenvandine> didrocks, i am doing empathy now
[17:47] <kenvandine> new release
[17:47] <pitti> Sweetshark: that's fine, you don't need to wait for the builds to finish for uploading the next version
[17:47] <didrocks> kenvandine: oh, ok, can you add:
[17:48] <mterry> didrocks, is there an API change?
[17:48] <didrocks> kenvandine: dep on libunity 3.4.6, please?
[17:48] <kenvandine> yup
[17:48] <didrocks> mterry: nothing, we just start tracking the ABI now that we have consumers :)
[17:48] <mterry> didrocks, ah
[17:48] <seb128> mterry, they had a shlibs with << in the version
[17:48] <didrocks> mterry: before, as there were only the places, the packaging was forcing rebuilding all rdepends
[17:49] <seb128> mterry, so you need a rebuild anyway
[17:49] <kenvandine> didrocks, any api change?
[17:49] <didrocks> kenvandine: no, just some additions, but you don't need it :)
[17:49] <Sweetshark> pitti: well, maverick got rejected for all the right reasons. But I gotta go. We should discuss that tommorrow.
[17:50] <didrocks> mterry: do you want to do deja-dup?
[17:50] <didrocks> mterry: you just need to dep on the coming 3.4.6
[17:50] <pitti> Sweetshark: ok, let the build grind over night then; good night!
[17:50] <pitti> I need to disappear soon as well
[17:50] <mterry> didrocks, sure, I can do that
[17:50] <didrocks> mterry: thanks :)
[17:50] <didrocks> kenvandine: I'm upload the xchat-indicator now
[17:50] <didrocks> ing*
[17:50] <kenvandine> didrocks, thx
[18:13] <hallyn> should i be able to apt-get install unity-2d right now?
[18:17] <pitti> good night everyone!@
[18:24] <didrocks> good night pitti
[18:43] <kenvandine> didrocks, did you upload libunity?
[18:44] <didrocks> kenvandine: no, I'm finishing all the unity stuff, but just upload, it will dep-wait
[18:44] <kenvandine> i did already just checking
[18:44] <kenvandine> didrocks, can you NEW folks for me?
[18:44] <didrocks> kenvandine: no worry, I still have 8 pakages to upload :)
[18:44] <kenvandine> empathy will need that too
[18:44] <didrocks> kenvandine: I'll in a few, is it a new bin?
[18:44] <kenvandine> yes
[18:45] <didrocks> ok, from debian or directly packaged by us?
[18:45] <kenvandine> from us
[18:45] <didrocks> ok, will have a check then :)
[18:46] <didrocks> kenvandine:
[18:46] <didrocks>  libindicator-dev : Dépend: libindicator3 (= 0.3.19-0ubuntu3) mais ne sera pas installé
[18:46] <didrocks> (meaning it deps on libindicator3…)
[18:46] <kenvandine> yes
[18:46] <kenvandine> what is that from?
[18:47] <kenvandine> that should be all published by now
[18:47] <kenvandine> oh, ppc?
[18:47] <didrocks> I'm on i386
[18:47] <didrocks> it's blocking unity to be built
[18:48] <kenvandine> weird
[18:48] <didrocks> is it published on launchpad so that I can take?
[18:49] <kenvandine> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindicator/0.3.19-0ubuntu3/+buildjob/2281895
[18:49] <kenvandine> yeah
[18:49] <kenvandine> since yesterday
[18:49] <didrocks> urgh
[18:49] <didrocks> ok, it's updating all the indicator stack today here
[18:49] <didrocks> so maybe that's the cause
[18:51] <didrocks> kenvandine: yeah, it was blocking it :)
[18:57] <cdbs> kenvandine: ping
[18:58] <kenvandine> cdbs, pong
[18:58] <cdbs> kenvandine: could you rebuild nautilus on my behalf?
[18:59] <cdbs> no-change rebuild
[18:59] <cdbs> kenvandine: if you'd like, I will provide a debdiff with a neat changelog message
[19:02] <kenvandine> cdbs, please do
[19:02] <kenvandine> and i'll sponsor it :)
[19:02] <cdbs> kenvandine: see the one attached to bug #724285
[19:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 724285 in nautilus "[natty] Nautilus crashes with assertion error on start" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724285
[19:02] <kenvandine> ok
[19:03] <cdbs> kenvandine: I got the package rebuilt on my EC2 instance, then I tested the debs locally and it worked
[19:11] <kenvandine> cdbs, looks like seb128 has some work in progress on that branch, let me check with him when he gets back
[19:11] <cdbs> kenvandine: :o
[19:11] <kenvandine> if it is ready to upload, we'll do that
[19:12] <cdbs> kenvandine: okay, then. I'll subscribe sponsors and un-assign myself
[19:12] <cdbs> kenvandine: in case you are confused, I am bilalakhtar
[19:12] <kenvandine> i know :)
[19:12] <kenvandine> cdbs is a great nick :)
[19:14]  * cdbs g2g
[20:00] <TheMuso> rodrigo_: hi
[20:08] <om26er> bug 724285
[20:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 724285 in nautilus "[natty] Nautilus crashes with assertion error on start" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724285
[20:09] <om26er> according to people in the bug report, rebuilding nautilus fixes the issue, could anyone please look into this
[20:10] <cdbs> om26er: I already poked ken about it
[20:10] <cdbs> om26er: as you can see, bilal's speedier than you can think :D
[20:10] <om26er> cant't beat me :p
[20:11] <om26er> i am like a hawk on the mail box ;)
[20:36] <chrisccoulson_> cdbs, om26er - it would be nice to know what broke in case it affects other applications
[22:46] <seb128> kenvandine, didrocks, pitti: seems the dbus update has some issues
[22:46] <seb128> the new folks build broke
[22:46] <seb128> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65082307/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.folks_0.3.6-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:46] <didrocks> hum :/
[22:48] <didrocks> the two others have been built with the previous version?
[22:48] <didrocks> (two others arch)
[22:48] <seb128> guess so
[22:48] <didrocks> let me check
[22:49] <seb128> it was
[22:49] <didrocks> yeah
[22:51] <seb128> didrocks, you should go to bed, that will not be sorted tonight
[22:51] <didrocks> yeah, I was just about thinking that :)
[22:51] <seb128> let's it for pitti when he starts tomorrow
[22:51] <didrocks> sure
[22:51] <didrocks> so ok, time to take some rest
[22:51] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys
[22:51] <seb128> it's the feature freeze rush fun today ;-)
[22:51] <seb128> same here
[22:51] <seb128> 'night didrocks
[22:52] <didrocks> thanks, same for you ;)
[22:52] <didrocks> of course ^^
[22:52] <didrocks> :-)