[01:59] <Sparrow_> Hi Ho all, a voice from the past.  JAck Sparrow is still alive after multiple heart attacks, a five way bypass open heart surgery not to mention these last few years using Mint after Unity was forced down our throats.  Take care all.  Yes there is Life AFTER IRC
[02:01] <bazhang> hi jack!
[02:02] <bazhang> you should so sue johnny depp
[02:02] <Sparrow_> Hey bazhang .
[02:02] <bazhang> all we need is nickrud!
[02:03] <Sparrow_> lONG TIME SINCE i HEARD THAT NAME
[02:03] <Sparrow_> sorry
[02:03] <bazhang> hehe
[02:03] <bazhang> happy easter to you Sparrow_ jacksparrow
[02:03] <Sparrow_> Tx..  same to you
[02:04] <bazhang> what a wonderful surprise
[02:04] <Sparrow_> It has been a lot of years
[02:04] <Sparrow_> I retired 15 years ago
[02:04] <Sparrow_> was here every day of the week for ever
[02:05] <bazhang> a day being 25hrs
[02:05] <Sparrow_> YEa, I was here a lot of those.  People thought I was a bot half the time
[02:06] <bazhang> hehe
[02:06] <Sparrow_> Ill stop in now and then to see how switching back to gnome does
[02:07] <Sparrow_> Big hugs for all my old friends.  I have not oved so anyone wanting to verify I am me.. go for it
[02:07] <Sparrow_> moved
[02:08] <Sparrow_> Same spelling errors with arthritis in left hand etc..  bazhang   be well and prosper
[02:19] <valorie> life after IRC?
[02:19] <valorie> perish the thought!
[02:20] <Unit193> ...Life with IRC?
[02:20] <valorie> irc is a natural and necessary part of normal life
[02:21] <bazhang> all we need is nalioth showing up to make it complete
[08:16] <dax> !flavors
[08:16] <dax> ok so adding budgie
[08:17] <dax> i wonder if there's a webpage for this
[08:17] <ikonia> I wonder if a wiki page listing them would be easier
[08:17] <ikonia> with links etc etc
[08:17] <elky> for budgie or for the derivative zoo?
[08:17] <ikonia> so you maintain the webpage rather than the factoid
[08:17] <dax> elky: with a list of flavors on it
[08:17] <dax> ikonia: the wiki makes me want to shoot myself in the face, i'll pass
[08:18] <elky> would be preferable, that factoid is too cumbersome
[08:18] <ikonia> is it still a bomb site ?
[08:18] <dax> not least because theoretically i'm in enough groups to be able to edit it, but it likes to log me out when i hit the edit button
[08:18] <ikonia> I still wonder if there should be a IRC wiki
[08:18] <ikonia> maintained by people in the IRC team
[08:18] <dax> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours seems sane
[08:18] <elky> wikis are hell to maintain so no
[08:18] <ikonia> locked access to stop the spam etc
[08:18] <dax> !-flavors
[08:18] <ikonia> yes, it would require work
[08:18] <dax> elky: much like the IRC team!
[08:19] <dax> ubottu: flavors is <reply> Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
[08:19] <dax> ubottu: no, flavors is <reply> Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
[08:19] <dax> ubottu: flavors > lotuspsychje
[08:19] <elky> the irc team is cake compared to an internet accessible wiki that random people will need to edit
[08:19] <dax> ubottu: flavors > elky
[08:19] <dax> weird
[08:19] <dax> ubottu: tell lotuspsychje about flavors
[08:19] <dax> mkay.
[08:20] <dax> i swear i used to be able to send factoids to people cross-channel like that
[08:22] <ikonia> I thought that worked too
[10:18] <bazhang> Bacta
[10:18] <bazhang> what a treat
[10:25] <ikonia> he's not been in ubuntu for a long time
[10:25] <ikonia> he still appears in some other channels (python) and is still a problem
[10:26] <bazhang> * [Rackta] (~Bacta@2400:4030:9d31:aa00:7d42:fa6f:322d:9b9b):
[10:26] <bazhang> immediately with the death threats against unity devs and likening it to cancer
[10:28] <ikonia> I didn't see any death threats, and his cancer comments are just poor taste words, it's not uncommon for someone to say something negative is "like a cancer" if it eats away at the host (ubuntu)
[10:29] <ikonia> sad to see him back all the same
[10:31] <ikonia> for the record, I believe bacta is still on the core-channel-wide ban, so if he does anything, he can be removed straight away as he's evading the core channel ban
[10:35] <bazhang> he's piped down since the multiple ask to stop offtopic
[10:36] <ikonia> yes, it makes no sense to do anything now I'd guess
 k1l heppy easter lame :)
[18:16] <k1l> Dreaman again
[18:22] <ikonia> ughh really
[18:22] <ikonia> I thought he'd been good
[19:42] <elky> he had, except he went back into #ubuntu after the release party literally because i wasn't awake to tell him that he was still not allowed there (he asked)
[19:42] <elky> bazhang moved him on again
[19:43]  * elky pm's him on both dreaman and taralej
[19:43] <elky> taralej is offline right now is he on another nick?
[19:57] <ikonia> elky: he's gone and back on as dreaman
[19:57] <ikonia> I spoke to him as taralej and asked him why he'd started again after he agreed to stop
[19:58] <ikonia> he said "I have just one ubuntu question" which didn't really explain it, he then wished me happy easter, logged off as taralej and rejoined as dreaman in #debian
[19:58] <ikonia> quite odd
[19:58] <ikonia> I have also failed to find a bulgarian speaker
[19:58] <elky> yeah i think he thinks it's a fun game
[19:59] <ikonia> he's active as dreaman currently if you've pm'd him as that
[19:59] <elky> i did. amazingly ignored
[20:01] <ikonia> he normally can't help himself
[20:01] <ikonia> I'm wrong he's offline and left
[20:01] <ikonia> my screen hadn't scrolled
[20:01] <ikonia> my fault
[20:02] <elky> well he was online when i did pm him
[20:02] <elky> he quit 7 mins later
[20:03] <elky> so he's probably on an alt
[20:03] <ikonia> I just saw him talking on my screen, so assumed he was still online
[20:03] <ikonia> as long as his alt nick isn't being a pain, I guess no harm no foul
[23:50] <valorie> we just found out that our #kubuntu factoid needs changing. It now reads "For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic"
[23:51] <valorie> and should instead use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:51] <valorie> paste.kde.org now requires login to paste
[23:55] <krytarik> valorie: Since it'll be the same as the general one then, just do: "!forget pastebin-#kubuntu"
[23:57] <valorie> !forget pastebin-#kubuntu
[23:57] <Menzador> @login
[23:57] <valorie> perfect!
[23:57] <valorie> thanks
[23:57] <krytarik> Sure.
[23:58] <Menzador> Ye, you're all set :)


[09:35] <ogra> hmm, did someone turn off image autobuilds ? i got no images butu i also got no failre mails
[09:35]  * ogra checks on antimony
[09:38] <Riddell> images seem to be building today
[09:41] <ogra> hmm, nothing obvious and a manual build seems to be running fine
[09:41] <ogra> weird
[10:32] <sistpoty|work> cjwatson: can you moderate my mail regarding delegates to u-d-a please?
[10:49] <cjwatson> sistpoty|work: dodne
[10:49] <cjwatson> done
[10:50] <sistpoty|work> thanks cjwatson
[11:30] <bdrung_> is bug #640682 ok?
[11:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 640682 in ibus-unikey (Ubuntu) "Please sync 0.5-2 from debian unstable (affects: 2) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640682
[11:32] <micahg> could someone please look at bug 631836
[11:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 631836 in activeldap (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync activeldap 1.2.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 255)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/631836
[16:00] <doko> Binary only promotions to main
[16:00] <doko>  ------------------------------
[16:00] <doko>  o libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental                                         {mesa}
[16:00] <doko>    [Reverse-Depends: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental-dbg]
[16:00] <doko> cjwatson: ok to demote these?
[16:00] <cjwatson> YM promote?
[16:01] <cjwatson> er, I think so, but I was holding off on that one because I vaguely recall there being a bug about it
[16:01] <cjwatson> anyone know?
[16:03] <doko> well, the eperimental doesn't encourage me
[16:21] <Riddell> yes there was a bug
[16:22] <Riddell> bryce wanted it in universe
[16:22] <Riddell> bug 638097
[16:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 638097 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Universe binary demotion request for libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental (affects: 1) (heat: 491)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638097
[16:23] <Riddell> moved libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental-dbg to universe
[16:24] <doko> Riddell: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental too?
[16:24] <Riddell> yes
[16:25] <cjwatson> Riddell: I think it needs seed mangling to make sure it stays there
[16:25] <cjwatson> given that it's showing up in component-mismatches
[16:26] <Riddell> even now that libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental-dbg is also demoted?
[16:26] <cjwatson> yes.  component-mismatches does not consider what is currently in main, it considers what it thinks should be in main and compares
[16:26] <cjwatson> you shouldn't close such a bug until component-mismatches says that you can demote the package
[16:28] <cjwatson> I'll sort it out
[16:30] <Riddell> I see, the -dbg package gets pulled in because it's -dbg and it needs an Extra-exclude
[16:30] <cjwatson> right, that's what I'm doing now
[16:58] <bdrung_> can a release team member have a look at bug #645339?
[16:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 645339 in mozilla-devscripts (Ubuntu) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645339
[17:04] <cjwatson> bdrung_: is it a good idea to drop these recommends in maverick?  I'd have thought it would be generally good to keep them for partial upgrades and the like
[17:04] <cjwatson> bdrung_: for the purposes of NBS, we can consider these as false positives ...
[17:05] <micahg> cjwatson: they were all transitional packages in Lucid
[17:05] <cjwatson> bdrung_: I don't actually object to the change I suppose, but you shouldn't do it if NBS is the only reason
[17:05] <cjwatson> bdrung_: ok
[17:06] <cjwatson> then I guess it's fair enough
[17:07] <bdrung_> cjwatson: the NBS is mostly the reason (having useless items in recommends). one benefit of rebuilding (all) extension is to let them pick up the benefits of the newer version of mozilla-devscripts
[17:10] <bdrung_> cjwatson: and it will make sure that coming SRUs won't hit any issues (and SRUs will come once firefox-4.0 comes to maverick)
[17:11] <cjwatson> what other benefits?
[17:11] <cjwatson> you only list one changes
[17:11] <cjwatson> change
[17:11] <cjwatson> IOW, what set of changes am I accepting here if I ack rebuilding all the extensions?
[17:12] <cjwatson> your bug didn't mention that there was an ulterior motive
[17:12] <micahg> bdrung_: firefox-4.0 isn't coming to maverick
[17:12] <bdrung_> micahg: really? will maverick EOL before firefox 3.6 EOL?
[17:13] <micahg> bdrung_: well, we'll jump to 4.1 probably, but everything will need updates most likely
[17:13] <bdrung_> cjwatson: some changes in mozilla-devscripts 0.21
[17:14] <micahg> bdrung_: we have 0.23 in maverick
[17:14] <cjwatson> I think the implication is that extensions haven't been rebuilt for a while?
[17:14] <cjwatson> but I'd really prefer somebody to actually be clear about this
[17:14] <bdrung_> yes, some packages may weren't rebuild after the release of m-d 0.23
[17:15] <bdrung_> yes, some packages may weren't rebuild after the release of m-d 0.21
[17:15] <bdrung_> cjwatson: before releasing m-d 0.21 i did a rebuild test with all extensions.
[17:15] <cjwatson> I can see the changelog but I don't have the background to work out what it all means for extensions.  Please try to explain in plain English in the bug what the effects of rebuilding extensions will be
[17:17] <bdrung_> cjwatson: it will add a configuration file in /etc/xul-ext (if has a config file) and will install the extension into /usr/share/xul-ext/<package> instead of /usr/share/xul-ext-<package>
[17:18] <cjwatson> in the bug, please?
[17:23] <bdrung_> cjwatson: done
[17:32] <bdrung_> can a release team member have a look at bug #643691? ubuntu-dev-tools should be ready now.
[17:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 643691 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "FFe: Please sync ubuntu-dev-tools 0.103 (universe) from Debian experimental (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643691
[17:50] <ScottK> bdrung_: Does this have the fixes for the problems found in yesterday's testing?
[17:53] <bdrung_> ScottK: yes
[17:53] <ScottK> OK.  I'll have a look.
[17:54] <bdrung_> ScottK: and even more bug fixes
[17:56] <ScottK> bdrung_: Approved.
[17:56] <bdrung_> ScottK: thanks
[17:56] <ScottK> No problem.
[17:57] <ScottK> bdrung_: Since you're going to be uploading this in Debian now, I'll warn you that it is quite normal for people to commit a lot of not tested, barely functional changes to u-d-t, so I wasn't suprised the testing found problems.  Be careful.
[17:58] <bdrung_> ScottK: ok, i will remember that.
[18:03] <ScottK> Several cycles ago I got annoyed by it and started testing it.  Once I had upwards of a dozen bugs filed I got tired and quit.
[18:08] <bdrung_> ScottK: the package needs test suites
[18:38] <bdrung_> cjwatson: we still have the ACK for m-d from you?
[19:56] <doko> cjwatson: is it ok to accept the llvm-defaults binaries in NEW?
[19:57] <cjwatson> bdrung_: for m-d itself, but I haven't acked the extensions rebuild yet.  will look in a bit
[19:58] <cjwatson> doko: I never accept binaries from something I uploaded.  I can have a look at yours after dinner
[19:59] <doko> cjwatson: no. just wanted you to review them
[20:11] <ScottK> Is the queuebot off on purpose?
[20:44] <cjwatson> ScottK: no, it dies if something goes wrong with my connection
[20:45] <cjwatson> I should probably make it wait for a while and retry
[20:45] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:45] <cjwatson> hm, arguably I should make it not do that on startup, too
[20:46] <doko> not unbusy
[20:46] <cjwatson> maybe I ought to run it on chiark or something
[20:46] <cjwatson> don't like running irc bots on company equipment
[22:34] <Daviey> Hi friendly release team.  jdstrand has uploaded a fix for bug #628055... (^^ from queue-bot).  Would it be possible for that to be accepted in time for daily iso build?
[22:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 628055 in libvirt (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "Instances don't start correctly on 32bit systems with large disk files (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628055
[22:35] <Daviey> (Justification, currently UEC on i386 is pointless)
[22:35] <ScottK> Looking.
[22:35] <jdstrand> its more than just UEC, but that is probably more than enough
[22:35] <jdstrand> s/its/it's/
[22:35] <Daviey> oh yeah, sure.
[22:36] <Daviey> jdstrand, I don't see any other teams sponsoring you at the bar, for uploading that...   So UEC is the prime target :)
[22:36] <jdstrand> hehe
[22:36] <bdrung_> any archive admin here?
[22:37] <jdstrand> bdrung_: it is not my day, but what do you need?
[22:37] <bdrung_> jdstrand: i like to get mozilla-devscripts 0.24 synced (ACKed in bug #645339)
[22:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 645339 in ubufox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645339
[22:38] <ScottK> Daviey (and jdstrand): Accepted.
[22:38] <Daviey> ScottK, \o/
[22:38] <Daviey> Thanks ScottK
[22:39] <jdstrand> ScottK: thanks :)
[22:39] <ScottK> Daviey: You're welcome. (jdstrand too).
[22:39] <jdstrand> bdrung_: I can do that
[22:39] <bdrung_> jdstrand: why?
[22:39] <jdstrand> bdrung_: because you asked me to?
[22:40] <jdstrand> I suppose I don't have to...
[22:40] <bdrung_> jdstrand: it's the second time this day that i misread something
[22:40] <jdstrand> :)
[22:40] <bdrung_> which inverted the meaning :)
[22:40] <jdstrand> bdrung_: so just so we are clear. you *would* like me to tend to bug 645339?
[22:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 645339 in ubufox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Drop transitional and removed packages from Recommends (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645339
[22:41] <bdrung_> jdstrand: yes :)
[22:47] <jdstrand> bdrung_: done
[22:48] <bdrung_> jdstrand: thanks


[00:06] <phillw> stgraber: thanks, it works with your instructions. I've never live mounted an ISO before (except with grub). But, as it is there, I'm as much confused as before as to why it has stopped working.
[02:11] <phillw> I'm out of ideas, but now I'm getting shouted at.... ZRam is NOT in the daily build regardless of what the logs say.
[02:12] <phillw> WHy is zRAM removed from the daily build? Is it a mistake, was the idea
[02:12] <phillw> to test zRAM only a few days, or did someone find something really bad
[02:12] <phillw> with it?
[02:13] <infinity> No one removed anything.
[02:13] <phillw> I'l leave that with you good people... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1192005
[02:13] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1192005 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "zram-config is not enabled by default on saucy-desktop-i386 17-Jun daily build" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[02:14] <phillw> infinity: I've now had it from two testers.... that is enough for me to 'see' something has gone wrong? What else is needed :'(
[02:14] <infinity> phillw: This isn't an ubuntu-release thing, please talk to your own engineers to see what's going on.
[02:15] <phillw> infinity: when was the last meta package for lubuntu updated? If it is a fault by Julien, I'll go nag him!
[02:17] <infinity> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta
[02:17] <phillw> Evidently, what is on the daily launchpad list is not the same as what gets fed into the seed.
[02:18] <stgraber> please go and talk to someone who's in charge of the technical side of lubuntu, as quite a few people have been telling you now, it's not an #ubuntu-release issue
[02:18] <phillw> you guys know when lubuntu changes the seed list, it is on a seperate area
[02:18] <infinity> phillw: That version of lubuntu-desktop is on the CDs, and so is zram-config.
[02:18] <stgraber> and it very likely has absolutely nothing to do with seeds as the package and files quite clearly are on your images, why zram-config doesn't work is a whole other question which is best answered by one of your technical guys
[02:18] <phillw> stgraber: I'm just trying to learn... I'm sorry if that is annoying for you.
[02:19] <infinity> phillw: The bug reporter, however, has "Package: lubuntu-desktop 0.48" installed.
[02:19] <infinity> phillw: So, it's an out-of-date image.
[02:19] <stgraber> phillw: I'm fine with people learning, but using a release communication channel full of people who don't necessarily have a whole lot of interest in Lubuntu isn't quite the right place for this
[02:19] <infinity> stgraber: It's not zram-config not working, it's a tester using an old image.
[02:20] <infinity> phillw: ^
[02:20] <infinity> phillw: This is not a learning channel.  We have channels for that.
[02:20] <stgraber> infinity: ah yeah, that'd explain it too ;) phillw has repeatedly been saying that this was on today's image, I was (apparently wrongly) assuming that he at least made sure this was the case
[02:21] <infinity> LiveMediaBuild: Lubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Alpha i386 (20130607)
[02:21] <infinity> phillw: So, all the info you needed was right there in the bug report.
[02:21] <infinity> phillw: Including the build date of the ISO, and the old version of the meta package.
[02:24] <phillw> infinity: Hmm, well, that's one person I instructed to zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20130617/saucy-desktop-i386.iso.zsync and one more who has stumbled upon it. I'm really sorry for this. I'll go back and check what the heck is going on. They both know how to pull in the latest ISO's (as is evident with them reporting a glitch with the most recent one).
[02:31] <phillw> infinity: just by the way, which learning channel should I be using? I had wrongly assumed that I "had my head round" how the dailies are built and mistakeingly thought this was the channel to learn about them on. May I once again humbly apologise.
[02:36] <infinity> phillw: Well, for starters, this had nothing to do with how the ISOs are built, just with reading a bug report.
[02:37] <infinity> phillw: But #ubuntu, possibly #ubuntu-bugs or #ubuntu-motu.  I'm not sure where best to ask these questions.  But the temptation to ask all your questions here because this is where the cool kids hang out doesn't help us get actual work done.
[02:39] <TheDrums> -motu isn't really right either.
[02:39] <infinity> No, probably not.  It's mostly packaging oriented.
[02:39] <phillw> infinity: with the greatest of respect... http://pastebin.com/jH62bLJF
[02:39] <infinity> -bugs, perhaps, but I don't hang out there, I'm not sure what they do.
[02:40] <infinity> phillw: yes, and?  That's clearly not the ISO the person installed and reported the bug from.
[02:40] <phillw> it is
[02:41] <infinity> phillw: It's not.  We could argue this all day, or you can tell him to rewrite his CD or USB key and try harder.
[02:41] <infinity> phillw: I can pretty clearly see the contents of today's daily, and that it contains newer packages than what the bug is filed against.  He didn't install something that magically downgraded his packages.
[02:42] <infinity> phillw: So, as much fun as it is to argue incessantly, please don't.
[02:43] <stgraber> phillw: https://www.stgraber.org/download/lubuntu-zram.png
[02:43] <phillw> infinity: thanks! At least I know where the problem is... And, very sadly, it is only on here I can get deffinate answers. I do try to avoid 'bugging' you good people, as I know you have better things to do. I'll try to leave you all in peace:)
[02:44] <stgraber> that's a screenshot of the exact image you linked earlier, showing a VM running with zram started and 1GB of swap configured as a result
[02:44] <stgraber> can we now please stop that argument and get back to doing productive things
[02:44] <phillw> stgraber: several people (testers) are going to get 'barked' at :)
[02:45] <infinity> phillw: You don't need to come here for answers, you could have read the bug report.
[02:45] <infinity> phillw: Please, we're not your personal resource for these sorts of things.  Pretty please.  With sugar on top.
[02:46] <TheDrums> You're actually doing more to hurt Lubuntu, as people will remember events like this and not be nearly as willing to help...
[02:47] <phillw> infinity: I was dealing with the OP to get him to file a bug report, it did not enter my head after my telling him to zsync up that he would be using an old image.... In all honesty, would you have expected that?  I will double check next ime.
[02:47] <phillw> *next time*
[02:48] <infinity> I suspect I would have expected it, or I wouldn't have gone looking.
[02:48] <infinity> Well, I started by checking the manifest to see what version of lubuntu-desktop and zram-config were on the ISO.
[02:48] <infinity> Then I noted that the bug report had an older desktop.
[02:48] <infinity> And checked the other bits.
[02:48] <infinity> But it's all there.
[02:48] <infinity> And didn't need an "expert" to diagnose.
[02:48] <infinity> Just someone who can compare integers.
[02:48] <infinity> Which, it turns out, is nearly everyone over five.
[02:51] <phillw> Yeah, maybe better if I do not ask questions on here.. Sorry for taking your time up.
[06:09] <infinity> stgraber: queuebot is wedged again.
[07:07] <didrocks> infinity: hey, what would it take to have the daily-build ppa building including -proposed?
[07:07] <didrocks> (not talking about upstream CI, it's their own willingness to not take it for now)
[07:13] <infinity> didrocks: Just tick the box on the PPA dependencies page?
[07:14] <infinity> didrocks: +edit-dependencies
[07:14] <didrocks> infinity: waow, that was easy! Thanks :)
[07:16] <infinity> didrocks: No problem.  I feel like I've been useful today now. :P
[07:16] <didrocks> infinity: roh, happy to help you having this feeling then :-)
[08:53] <sil2100> Hi
[08:53] <sil2100> infinity: ping!
[12:57] <stgraber> infinity: restarted, will have to look into the actual cause at some point... it's been rock solid for months last cycle but not so much this one...
[15:51] <infinity> sil2100: Pong?
[15:52] <sil2100> infinity: unping!
[17:32] <bdmurray> infinity / cjwatson: dogfood is timing out for me regularly perhaps due to pending publications like https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/amd64/libxen-dev.  Is there a way via the API I can delete them?
[17:36] <bdmurray> Does requestDeletion work with pending publications?
[17:42] <cjwatson> Keep trying - dogfood's db is very slow
[17:44] <bdmurray> I've been trying although not in really quick succession
[17:58] <bdmurray> and in quick succession it is still timing out
[17:59] <cjwatson> There may not be much we can do about it on dogfood
[17:59] <cjwatson> requestDeletion should work
[18:03] <bdmurray> okay, I'll try deleting some of the pending publications then
[18:03] <bdmurray> thanks!
[18:05] <bdmurray> oh, cjwatson were you going to submit a bug about copy package and phased update percentage or should I do that?
[18:05] <cjwatson> oh, er, I keep meaning to but I have to go for dinner now; if you wouldn't mind that'd be great
[18:05] <bdmurray> cjwatson: okay, I'll subscribe you in case I butcher it
[18:06] <cjwatson> ta :)
[20:57] <rtg_> infinity, please NEW the tools binaries for linux-manta
[22:23]  * Noskcaj is away: school