[12:13] <[swb] > it was still paging while I had the swap enabled, I think openoffice/firefox will just take however much ram is available
[12:13] <rausb0> inventorgp: oh you mean 2gb swap. no problem with that. but pentium 4 is just a crap cpu. i have a p 4 here too. the pentium m cpus are much better, they are based on the pentium 3. p 4 was really a bad cpu design from intel. especially bad when it comes to virtualization.
[12:13] <inventorgp> well I've got 512Mb of ram and a 2 Gb swap... and its really SLOW sometimes.....
[12:13] <[swb] > but when I disabled the swap it and restarted... it hasnt paged since
[12:13] <Cartas> Um, fnf:  I couldn't find a Thunderbird package at getdeb.net, unfortunately!
[12:13] <dMz> sugakushuto, how can I see the /dev/*** correct?
[12:14] <[swb] > hehe, I am using gnome and beryl and also loving it
[12:14] <[swb] > I recently bought a new system, would highly recomend the core2duos
[12:14] <inventorgp> rausb0: apparently the architecture for P4's can reduce performance
[12:14] <Bspec> anybody know what package i should enable to have xscreensaver extension support when i'm compiling pidgin?
[12:14] <[swb] > mine is certainly super speedy
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Cartas: thunderbird is in the repos.... why are you using getdeb?
[12:14] <Cartas> The one I used from Add/Remove is a really old version.
[12:14] <rausb0> inventorgp: any special situation where your system gets particularly slow?
[12:14] <nasser> hi
[12:14] <DFM> sugakushuto, well gparted is done and I made a fat 32 partition. guess I will reboot into ubuntu and see if I broke anything. thanks for all the advice.
[12:14] <nasser> who can make ModeLine for my HD 40"
[12:15] <[swb] > inventorgp, are you running things like deskbar and beagle?
[12:15] <Cartas> I downloaded a new one from Mozilla, Paddy_EIRE, but I've no idea how to install from a tar.gz.  I tried extracting and using the ./configure, make and make install way, but it didn't work.
[12:15] <inventorgp> rausb0: well I just reinstalled, but when I was multi asking stuff...
[12:15] <sugakushuto> dMz it will be under the UHCI under USB hub interface
[12:15] <inventorgp> [swb] : no
[12:15] <[swb] > Cartas, id you are on ubuntu, can you not aptitude install thunderbird
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Cartas: oh, if you had been using the Linux Mint flavour of feisty the latest thunderbird is available through mintInstall
[12:15] <sugakushuto> DFM np, and may the source be with you as well
[12:16] <fnf> Cartas: I'm downloading the Thunderbird tarball, what is its content?
[12:16] <Cartas> What's an aptitude install then?  Paddy_EIRE:  I've no idea about Mint Flavours.  I'm using Ubuntu 7.04.
[12:16] <rausb0> inventorgp: "multi asking stuff"..? sorry, i don't understand
[12:16] <Paddy_EIRE> Cartas: or you could build it from source
[12:16] <GNine> is there any way to perform a system rollback to original install spec on ubuntu
[12:16] <fnf> Cartas: is there any Makefile in there?
[12:16] <whiteskul> hello everybody
[12:16] <Cartas> Um, is that a particular extension?
[12:16] <inventorgp> rausb0: like using amsn, swiftfox, rythembox, gimp, nvu,  etc....at the same time (well a combination of those)
[12:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !compile | Cartas
[12:16] <ubotu> Cartas: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:16] <fnf> Cartas: no, it
[12:16] <fnf> Cartas:... is named Makefile
[12:16] <Cartas> There is none.
[12:16] <whiteskul> is it possible to run ubuntu on an old laptop with only 32mb ram?
[12:16] <sugakushuto> [swb]  sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[12:17] <Flannel> whiteskul: 32mb might be a little skimpy.  Even if you do get some
[12:17] <fnf> Cartas: so it's a binary package, is there any executable?. WHat does the README say?
[12:17] <[swb] > wow awesome, there is a 64bit flash plugin for firefox finally
[12:17] <Cartas> For information about installing, running and configuring Thunderbird
[12:17] <Cartas> including a list of known issues and troubleshooting information,
[12:17] <Cartas> refer to: http://getthunderbird.com/releases/
[12:17] <fnf> Cartas: the package is ~11MB so it will take me a few minutes to download.
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> [swb] : is there
[12:17] <Flannel> whiteskul: some *buntu derivative, it'll run slow.  You're probably better off with a distro thats designed for old laptops, something like Deli linux or whatnot
[12:17] <Mondmann> Mondmann
[12:17] <inventorgp> rausb0: like using amsn, swiftfox, rythembox, gimp, nvu,  etc....at the same time (well a combination of those)
[12:18] <ranjan> fnf: i think one can just untar maybe into opt and start using it
[12:18] <rausb0> inventorgp: hmm. i don't know. yesterday i ran my xfce desktop, firefox, irssi, xmms, gkrellm, mplayer playing a dvb-t stream and it ran fine
[12:18] <whiteskul> flannel: thanks. any other distribution recommendations? i just want to experiment a little.
[12:18] <[swb] > Paddy_EIRE, apparently, will give you a yell if it works for me
[12:18] <exodus> Quick question, why do some of my files have a name in red?
[12:18] <inventorgp> rausb0: sometimes I got 100% CPU too
[12:19] <fnf> ranjan: perhaps, Mozilla usually release binary packages by default unless user specifically states to download the source, but putting in /home is a better idea.
[12:19] <inventorgp> rausb0: maybe I should move to xfce... I've heard a lot of good things about it
[12:19] <Flannel> whiteskul: I can't keep track of them, no.  Google would be a good choice "lightweight linux" or "old laptop linux" or osmething like that.  Also, distrowatch and www.linux.org have some search/filter/whatever things.  linux.org is how I found delilinux
[12:19] <rausb0> inventorgp: if you have 100% cpu over a longer time period, you should check with "top" in a terminal which process is the cpu hog
[12:19] <Cartas> Just say when it's downloaded, fnf! :)
[12:20] <inventorgp> rausb0: as in using xfce is not SLLLLOOOOW
[12:20] <setkeh> omg kopete is so dodgy lol
[12:20] <fnf> Cartas: yep.
[12:20] <rausb0> inventorgp: :)
[12:20] <inventorgp> lol
[12:20] <whiteskul> thx flannel, bye
[12:20] <ranjan> Cartas: http://www.munmon.com/amroth/2007/06/11/thunderbird-20-in-ubuntu-704/
[12:20] <GNine> == is there a way of doing a system restore type operation in ubuntu
[12:20] <inventorgp> rausb0: usually firefox or swiftfox.. and amsn is my little CPU eaters...
[12:21] <Cartas> Thanks ranjan, old chap!
[12:21] <Flannel> GNine: sure, reinstall.  If your home is on a separate partition, it's easy and painless
[12:21] <rausb0> inventorgp: yeah, amsn seems to be badly coded
[12:21] <GNine> roger that
[12:21] <rausb0> inventorgp: fortunately i don't use msn at all
[12:21] <inventorgp> rausb0: you'v got that right about amsn....
[12:21] <sugakushuto> dMz did you find it?
[12:22] <rausb0> inventorgp: in fact i don't use any instant messaging protocol, just irc
[12:22] <inventorgp> rausb0:  I hate it how I cant use pidgin...
[12:22] <inventorgp> rausb0: really?
[12:22] <phiras> How can change my java home ?
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> inventorgp: why cant you use pidgin?
[12:23] <frojnd> how can I check what distro I use in command line ?
[12:23] <Flannel> frojnd: lsb_release -a
[12:23] <sleepster> what's better desklets
[12:23] <sleepster> adesklet or gdesklet
[12:23] <inventorgp> Paddy_EIRE: because it conflicts with gaim and if I uninstall gaim.. I need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <GNine> if i do reinstall... do i have to set glx again?
[12:23] <Moez> Paddy : Wacom's prices is haard ! :(
[12:23] <theo_> hello
[12:24] <inventorgp> sleepster: I'v used gDesklets.. I liked it
[12:24] <sugakushuto> inventorgp you could run a binary from your home folder, maybe....
[12:24] <theo_> who knows how to use beryl?
[12:24] <rausb0> inventorgp: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage. the desktop itself won't be deinstalled if you remove that package.
[12:24] <ranjan> theo_: hello
[12:24] <Flannel> GNine: yeah.  You could always backup whatever config files you need.  What do you really want though? sicne 'factory settings' seems to mean different things.  What are you trying to undo?
[12:24] <sleepster> inventorgp:  ok thanks
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Moez: then there has to be a cheaper alternative..although good graphics tablets are expensive anyhow
[12:24] <inventorgp> rausb0: ok, but what will happen if I dont have ubuntu-desktop?
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !pidgin | inventorgp
[12:24] <ubotu> inventorgp: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[12:24] <inventorgp> sleepser: no probs
[12:25] <sugakushuto> inventorgp the end of the world as we know it.....
[12:25] <theo_> who can help me with beryl?
[12:25] <frojnd> Flannel: command not found
[12:25] <inventorgp> sugahushuto: ??????
[12:25] <Moez> Paddy : Hmmm... Okay ! Thank you very much ! Have a nice day !
[12:25] <frojnd> Flannel: if I lsb_realease -a
[12:25] <inventorgp> sugahushuto: well.. it is.. lol
[12:25] <Flannel> frojnd: release not realease
[12:25] <Daann> My Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card only sometimes gets detected by feisty, is it broken?
[12:25] <rausb0> inventorgp: like i said, it is only a metapacke. an empty package with dependencies.
[12:25] <Cartas> fnf:  How's it going, old chap?
[12:26] <GNine> flannel: i messed up installing css and software for dvd playback through gxine.  now i got too many packages installed and cant figure out which one is at fault
[12:26] <ranjan> theo_: have u installed your video card driver
[12:26] <theo_> i did
[12:26] <ranjan> theo_: desktop effects?
[12:26] <Flannel> GNine: you've got a log of what you installed, if you know when the problem started
[12:26] <frojnd> Flannel: -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[12:26] <theo_> but i dont understand how to use the beryl settings manager
[12:26] <fnf> Cartas: it's a binary package, if you have a file manager, just double click on 'thunderbird' is OK.
[12:26] <theo_> i enabled desktop effects
[12:26] <rausb0> frojnd: do you have ubuntu? then type   cat /etc/issue
[12:27] <inventorgp> rausb0: so I can unistall all the games cept mahjongg and gaim if I have ubuntu-desktop uninstalled????
[12:27] <ranjan> theo_: does it work?
[12:27] <theo_> the cube works
[12:27] <chandra_> hello all, i bought a new scanner BENQ 5000, installed xsane, should i also have to install sane??
[12:27] <Cartas> Hm?  I extract it first, then just double-clicking opens the folder, fnf...
[12:27] <Paddy_EIRE> theo_: desktop effects has nothing to do with beryl
[12:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !effects | theo_
[12:27] <ubotu> theo_: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:27] <Flannel> frojnd: do you have ubuntu installed?
[12:27] <phiras> Please help me , How can I change the java home on my ubuntu ??
[12:27] <Cartas> Oh, you mean the thunderbird inside the folder.  I see, fnf.  Thanks! :)
[12:27] <theo_> i used synaptic to download beryl
[12:27] <fnf> Cartas: yep, it should work :)
[12:27] <rausb0> inventorgp: don't know for the games, maybe they're all in one package. but you can uninstall gaim, yes.
[12:28] <inventorgp> WOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!
[12:28] <Cartas> fnf:  Anyway I can add the application to the Applications -> Internet menu?
[12:28] <rausb0> inventorgp: i think the games are all in the gnome-games package
[12:28] <ranjan> theo_: bery merged with compiz, better to use compiz fusion
[12:28] <frojnd> Flannel: no I was looking for distro and it appears it's readhat
[12:28] <inventorgp> rausb0: thank you!!!
[12:28] <inventorgp> rausb0: so how to I only keep mahjongg?
[12:28] <fnf> Cartas: sure, the GNOME menu isn't very flexible in that regard though. You'll have to use Alacarte: right-click on the Main Menu->Edit
[12:28] <rausb0> inventorgp: you can find out about mahjongg:  dpkg -S $(which mahjongg)
[12:29] <bullgard4> Ich mchte MySQL Query Browser inBetreib nehmen undwei nicht, was ich bei 'Default Schema' eintragen mu. Ich habe eine Datenbank #NorthwindMySQL, die ich phpMyAdmin sehen kann.
[12:29] <GNine> flannel: i have checked the log.  the problem is a little more obscure. i have all software necessary and i get a no demuxer found error.
[12:29] <inventorgp> rausb0: ok
[12:29] <stuart-> i have a DSL connection, but i need to connect manually with password and username. i get differetn IPs all the time, but i ehard from a friedn that i could configure PPPOE to get the same IP everytime i connect. can i configure this in ubuntu?
[12:29] <Flannel> frojnd: hmm, well, I'm surprised redhat wouldnt' have lsb_release, but I guess.
[12:29] <ranjan> theo_: follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[12:29] <sugakushuto> Daann you might need the updated firmware from broadcom
[12:29] <rausb0> inventorgp: if mahjongg is part of the gnome-games package, you cannot keep only mahjongg
[12:29] <sugakushuto> Daann http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[12:30] <rausb0> inventorgp: if it is a separate package, you can uninstall the other games without removing mahjongg
[12:30] <fnf> Cartas: it should be as easy as dragging-n-dropping to the menu though
[12:31] <Cartas> fnf: Everytime I run it, I have to use the 'thunderbird' file I just used?
[12:31] <inventorgp> rausb0: it looks like its in the pakage.... but I could copy all the files.... and paste them back maybe?
[12:31] <[swb] > Paddy_EIRE, woahs awesome it works
[12:32] <Daann> My Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card only sometimes gets detected by feisty, is it broken?
[12:32] <Flannel> GNine: Ah.  If you have a liveCD, you can get a package listing from that (boot to it, list the packages installed), that'll be identical the ones you start with.  Just remember to ignore removing your grpahics card stuff
[12:32] <fnf> Cartas: yeah, or add a new item to the main menu which points to that file.
[12:32] <sugakushuto> Daann oops, try this link instead https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[12:32] <rausb0> inventorgp: not a good idea. file under /usr and such should be known by the package manager. if you uninstall gnome-games and then put back mahjongg only, the package manager knows nothing about it and it won't be in the menu.
[12:32] <[swb] > Paddy_EIRE, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_.2864-bit.29_Mozilla_Firefox_.28only.29
[12:32] <GNine> flannel: negative. used online installation (wubi)
[12:33] <fnf> Cartas: thunderbird compiled in a DEB package will have an icon in the menu and everything in place automatically.
[12:33] <inventorgp> rausb0: I could write a shortcut...
[12:33] <sugakushuto> rausb0, inventorgp you can add it back if you really want it
[12:33] <metamorpheus> hey you guys i need some help, i have just installed my new printer and noticed that one  cartridge is empty, but i can't find no "option" or so that allows me to exchange it.  it's Epson stylus C40UX ... can someone help me please ?
[12:33] <Cartas> fnf: But how does one get a deb package of it if it's not at getdeb? :p
[12:33] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: YAY!!!!!
[12:33] <fnf> Cartas: compile one ;)
[12:33] <Flannel> GNine: That's ok.  You can still download the desktop CD.  Or, if you want to be dificult on yourself: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.manifest
[12:33] <Cartas> Would that one have the icon in? :o
[12:34] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus rt click your printer under the printers
[12:34] <inventorgp> be right back
[12:34] <fnf> Cartas: alright, I'll give it a shot.
[12:34] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus found under System>Printers
[12:34] <metamorpheus> i am there
[12:34] <metamorpheus> yes
[12:35] <rausb0> sugakushuto: i wouldn't recommend that without knowing how linux-skilled inventorgp is
[12:35] <metamorpheus> sugokushuto but i can't find it there ... -.-
[12:35] <fnf> Cartas: have to waste another 5 mins again to download source, sigh.
[12:35] <wryyyyzor> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[12:36] <Cartas> It's okay, fnf.  You don't have to! :)
[12:36] <sugakushuto> rausb0 even if inventorgp is not, he/she will soon have more skill under thier belt
[12:36] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus cannot find what where?
[12:36] <fnf> Cartas: I'll be back in a few minutes.
[12:36] <GNine> flannel: i dont like messing with ISO.  i guess am gonna start counting files
[12:36] <GNine> heheh
[12:36] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus rt click the printer, choose properties
[12:36] <theo_> how do you use beryl?
[12:36] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto uhm some button or so that allows me to exchange the cartridge
[12:37] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus yeah, we are getting to that
[12:37] <metamorpheus> ok
[12:37] <metamorpheus> and then ?
[12:37] <theo_> can someone help me with setting up beryl? thank you
[12:38] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus in the properties window, choose the advanced tab
[12:38] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto ok
[12:38] <Flannel> GNine: those are packages, not files.  And, uh, if you... take that list, remove the version stuffs, and then diff it with dpkg --get-selections, that'll automate the process a bit.
[12:38] <stuart-> is there a way to setup my DSL so i could connect to the same server (get the same IP) everytime i connect?
[12:38] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus there will be a 'Resolution, Quality, Ink Type......
[12:38] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus with a button next to it
[12:38] <bullgard4> To use the MySQL Query Browser I need to fill in the Default Schema field with what content? I have got a Database 'NorthwindMySQL' which I can see in phpMyAdmin.
[12:39] <zeroflag> does anybody know an linux vm that cun run XP with directx?
[12:39] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto ok
[12:39] <Flannel> stuart-: no, even if you connect to the same server, you won't necessarily get the same IP.  You might be interested in something like dyndns.org or some other dynamic hostname sort ofthing
[12:39] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus that should say "Controlled by 'Printout Mode'
[12:39] <neopsyche> VMWARE now free?
[12:39] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus click it and choose the res and ink you want
[12:39] <ranjan> Cartas: found a repo for latest thunderbird
[12:40] <rausb0> neopsyche: free as in "free beer", but not "free speech" (not open source)
[12:40] <ranjan> Cartas: add deb http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <Supavisah> Is it possible to load DLL with a program? Like MSN Messenger needs core DLL is there anyway I can include them while loading it in WINE?
[12:40] <Cartas> ranjan: Is that like... a deb package?
[12:40] <Cartas> Okay.
[12:40] <neopsyche> rausb0: ic
[12:40] <stuart-> Flannel, right now i'm 202.95.*.*, i don't mind the last numbers changing, but if i'm on the server that is 202.94.*.* my connections is actually faster, which is why i'd wanna connect to the same server
[12:40] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus then goto the button below that and choose greyscale if you want to eliminate the color cartridge
[12:40] <Cartas> ranjan: Done that!  Now what do I do?
[12:41] <ranjan> Cartas: then sudo apt-get update
[12:41] <Cartas> Okay, thanks.
[12:41] <ranjan> Cartas: then sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[12:41] <sugakushuto> all - I never knew how much fun helping others could be ;-)
[12:42] <Zaiden> Maybe you could help me :P
[12:42] <sugakushuto> Zaiden WHADYA WANT, im kiddin
[12:42] <Cartas> ranjan: I got 'Invalid Operation install'
[12:42] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto uhm i can't find "Controlled by 'Printout Mode' there :D
[12:42] <neopsyche> what kind of vmware product do i need to install ubutnu on vmware in windows
[12:43] <Paddy_EIRE> is there any good guides out there for learning to program for newbies.... specifically C linux's main language
[12:43] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus you are on the Advanced tab rt? under your printer properties page?
[12:43] <Cartas> ranjan: Nevermind, got it doing now, thanks :)
[12:43] <Zaiden> I installed ubuntu a few months ago, and I had a problem involing my Graphics card (nvidia FX5200 1828MB PCI), xwindows, and a command line promt I don't remember too well.
[12:43] <metamorpheus> "Controlled by 'Printout Mode' right i am there
[12:43] <rausb0> neopsyche: don't know. i don't use windows at all. but rumour has it qemu is also available for windows.
[12:43] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto yes i am there
[12:44] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus ok choose the greyscale if you want to eliminate the color cartridge
[12:44] <neopsyche> rausb0: thanks
[12:44] <sugakushuto> Zaiden and the issue is......? no graphics?
[12:44] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto i want to exchange it ... put another cartrige in the printer
[12:45] <neopsyche> lol... why is it .. i seem to enjoy chatting to people here .. generally more than anywhere else on the web!
[12:45] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus that has to be done with your hands
[12:45] <neopsyche> (joke)
[12:45] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus do you have the new cartridge?
[12:46] <neopsyche> The ubuntu community is great .. the users are generally helpful .. thanks all.
[12:46] <Zaiden> I can't go past 1024x768 with screen resolution, I can't install Ubuntu unless I go through Safe Graphics mode, and Firefox lags when scrolling if theres a flash item on the page, and it doesn't usually do that
[12:46] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto yes
[12:46] <variant> anyone have errrors when updating sources from security.ubuntu.com?
[12:46] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto but i need the printer to ... "open" to let me exchange it with my hands
[12:46] <sugakushuto> Zaiden sounds like you need the restricted drivers for your Nvidia?
[12:47] <sugakushuto> goto System>Administration>restricted drivers
[12:48] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus if you open the lid the cartridges and jet unit should come to the center so you can exchange the cartidges
[12:48] <Zaiden> I also remember having to go into a file and changing some things around to include my Graphics card name, only thing I can remember was sudo nano and xfc11 or something.
[12:49] <sugakushuto> Zaiden are you using Gnome?
[12:49] <linux__alien> i need to setup a CVS Server whats the best place to set it up (in terms of directory) i mean should i set it up in / or /home ?
[12:49] <Zaiden> Yes
[12:49] <sugakushuto> Zaiden did you try using the restricted drivers tool?
[12:50] <Zaiden> I think I did
[12:50] <sugakushuto> Zaiden It will overwrite(in a good way) your previous X11 settings
[12:50] <Zaiden> Ah, ok
[12:50] <sugakushuto> go ahead and try it again
[12:50] <Zaiden> Ok
[12:50] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto but it doesn't ... i have used the printer under windows before and i had to do something with software (and not my hands :p)  too
[12:50] <inventorgp> I'm Back
[12:51] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus what kind of printer is it?
[12:51] <linxeh> is there a tutorial for getting an ubuntu server part of a Windows 2003 active directory domain, so we can use it as a samba fileserver with transparent accounts/passwords, and so that people can ssh / scp in ?
[12:51] <metamorpheus> epson stylus C40UX
[12:51] <inventorgp> why does ubuntu log out when I'm like away for half an hour???
[12:51] <rausb0> inventorgp: does it?
[12:51] <sugakushuto> inventorgp back again? did you bring coffee?
[12:51] <linxeh> inventorgp: it should just lock the screen or similar at most
[12:52] <inventorgp> rausb0; yeah... logs ouy
[12:52] <inventorgp> *out
[12:52] <linxeh> inventorgp: mine stays logged in for months at a time sometimes :o
[12:52] <rausb0> inventorgp: i never experienced that
[12:52] <inventorgp> suakushuto: lol.. sorry no coffee
[12:52] <rausb0> inventorgp: maybe the screensaver kicked in and crashed the X server
[12:53] <metamorpheus> sugakushuto Epson stylus C40UX
[12:53] <inventorgp> and I reinstalled Fiesty a couple of days ago.... I've never had it happen
[12:53] <SoulChild> how to fix this : "ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0360): Ignoring BIOS FADT r2 C-state control " ???
[12:53] <inventorgp> rausb0: actually.. that maybe it.. I'll get a non-gl screen saver
[12:53] <sp1nter> inventorgp: did u reinstall the video drivers also
[12:53] <inventorgp> oh wait.. it happened when I had a non gl saver
[12:54] <inventorgp> yes I did
[12:54] <inventorgp> and I installed beryl....
[12:54] <inventorgp> I like compiz better... now...
[12:55] <stuart-> do i get the optoin to turn beryl on/off after installing?
[12:55] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus here is a link with instructions on how to change the ink with the keypad
[12:55] <sugakushuto> metamorpheus http://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/sc40ux/sc40uxu1/INK_1.HTM
[12:55] <inventorgp> thats IT.. I'm gonna reinstall.... BERYL doesn't load even tho its in sessions....
[12:55] <metamorpheus> thank you a lot
[12:55] <inventorgp> beryl = problems
[12:55] <inventorgp> lol
[12:55] <inventorgp> Xorg, I can handle... crappy performance, I cant
[12:56] <rausb0> inventorgp: may gfx hardware isn't 3d accelerated at all... (SiS onboard)
[12:56] <sugakushuto> inventorgp tried to setup beryl once, for 8 days
[12:56] <rausb0> s/may/my
[12:56] <SoulChild> hey all: what package do I need??? I have a Intel Card but Xorg says:(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[12:56] <inventorgp> lol sugakushuto
[12:56] <Jjohn> i thought beryl and compiz had joined to become fusion???
[12:56] <inventorgp> rausb0: I've got a nVidia MX400 ugh....
[12:56] <sugakushuto> Jjohn news to me, but sound interesting
[12:57] <rausb0> inventorgp: but i don't need that 3d eyecandy anyway
[12:57] <ompaul> Jjohn, go to #ubuntu-effects for all that info
[12:57] <stuart-> inventorgp, same here. does compiz run well on that card?
[12:57] <inventorgp> rausb0: I onnly like the window changer shorcuts :)
[12:57] <Jjohn> just that every one was comparing the two and I believe they are the same now
[12:57] <WingNut_> wow, somebody with a video card that's nearly as crappy as mine
[12:57] <sugakushuto> inventorgp I liked 3ddesktop tho
[12:58] <inventorgp> stuart-: it works great!!, it has better anti ailising than beryl
[12:58] <Alloosh> hi guys, I have a home network, Iam using a tunnel connection to connect my xp machine to the net throw the ubuntu machine, any way I have samba activated, and I can see ubuntu shared stuff on the xp, but cant see the xp in the ubuntu.
[12:58] <sugakushuto> WingNut_ what an intel i810?
[12:58] <Alloosh> any idea
[12:58] <Alloosh> ?
[12:58] <rausb0> WingNut_: which one do you have?
[12:58] <stuart-> inventorgp, you installed xserver-xgl?
[12:58] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: you using compiz?
[12:58] <inventorgp> stuart-: nope
[12:59] <sugakushuto> inventorgp na, just 3ddesktop to get the ooooh, aaahhh effect from the vista hounds
[12:59] <rausb0> sugakushuto: hehe, the infamous i810. i815 is also very crappy. the first usable intel gfx card was the i855gm.
[12:59] <inventorgp> !3ddesktop
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3ddesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <sugakushuto> rausb0 intel makes a decent video card?
[01:00] <Jjohn> !fusion
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: agh mind blank... 3ddesktop as in?
[01:00] <rausb0> sugakushuto: i have a i945gm (aka gma 950) card in my notebook. no problems so far.
[01:00] <sugakushuto> rausb0 I played with a Dell Inspiron 6000 with the 915gm, needless to say I ordered mine with the X300 ati
[01:01] <rausb0> sugakushuto: well, i am not a gamer
[01:01] <rausb0> sugakushuto: at least not when it comes to 3d h/w accel
[01:01] <sugakushuto> rausb0 thats ok, i wont hold it against you
[01:01] <sugakushuto> rausb0 what is your fps using glxgears or glxinfo?
[01:02] <inventorgp> rausb0: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   to install Xubuntu????
[01:02] <sugakushuto> inventorgp or use synaptic and do a search for xubuntu, that way you get all the juicy bits you might otherwise miss
[01:03] <rausb0> inventorgp: yes. if you do that from installed ubuntu, it won't uninstall the gnome packages though.
[01:03] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: ok thanks
[01:03] <inventorgp> rausb: kk cool
[01:03] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: juicy bits?
[01:04] <rausb0> inventorgp: i guess you will have the choice of running a gnome session or xfce session at the gdm login then
[01:04] <stuart-> inventorgp, hm. the other channel isn't responding. how did you install compiz? have a site for that?
[01:04] <sugakushuto> inventorgp any apps, themes, screensavers, or other errata you may miss out on just by doing a plain xubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <inventorgp> can I use gnome software/pakages on xfce?
[01:05] <sidewalk> When is the next version of Ubuntu going to be released?
[01:05] <rausb0> inventorgp: yes, as long as they don't need the gnome panel
[01:05] <inventorgp> sugakushuta: so how big is my download going to be?... lol
[01:05] <inventorgp> rausb0: sweet, didn't know that
[01:05] <Alloosh>  hi guys, I have a home network, Im using a tunnel connection to connect my xp machine to the net throw the ubuntu machine, any way I have samba activated, and I can see ubuntu shared stuff on the xp, but cant see the xp in the ubuntu. any idea?
[01:05] <ranjan> sidewalk: October
[01:05] <sugakushuto> inventorgp aaw just a few gigatrons
[01:05] <inventorgp> lol
[01:06] <sidewalk> ranjan: I it 7.05 or 7.1?
[01:06] <sugakushuto> inventorgp idk, depends on what you select
[01:06] <ranjan> 7.10 for 2007, October
[01:06] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: true.. I guess its going to be a few gigatrons then.... lool
[01:06] <inventorgp> *lol
[01:07] <sugakushuto> Alloosh I have been trying to get samba to work for me for the last 6 months. I have been all over the documentation and I seem to have the most trouble with XP and Vista
[01:08] <sugakushuto> inventorgp yeah it could be worse, a few gigatrons and 23 niblets
[01:08] <inventorgp> you guys have samba probs too???
[01:08] <Alloosh> sugakushuto, it gave me headache at first, but when I found out the trick I managed to do it easily, can you tell me how your network look like?
[01:08] <inventorgp> sugakushuto:.. oh I forgot about the 23 niblets....
[01:08] <sugakushuto> all - yes for the love of all that is holy, samba needs better doc and more examples
[01:09] <inventorgp> I agree sugakushuto
[01:09] <Alloosh> I agree with you, but you have to be aware that every one connect the network in different way, so the documents guys cant cover all cases
[01:10] <inventorgp> hmm.....
[01:10] <sugakushuto> Alloosh I have tried most but not all apps including the infamous swat. the wall I keep banging my head against is the XP side acting like I dont even exist. I have looked at ports, firewalls, workgroup names, caps/no caps, users with and without passwords, smbfs, and many more
[01:11] <sugakushuto> Alloosh I'm not giving up, someday I will conquer that mountain. I wish I could help you, I really do. I can feel your pain.
[01:11] <Alloosh> suga, just tell me how your network look like and i will try to help, what are the wires and modems yiu are using
[01:12] <Alloosh> I have it connected, iam trying to help you here. so tell me how all are connected and i will show you the problem
[01:12] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: done anything with edubuntu?
[01:13] <ranjan> inventorgp: other than installing i have done nothing
[01:13] <sidewalk> Will it be painless to upgrade Ubuntu 7.04 -> 7.1?
[01:13] <inventorgp> Alloosh: I kinda gave up... I'll probably try after I get my machine to work properly, thanks anyways
[01:14] <ranjan> sidewalk:  mostly it will be
[01:14] <sugakushuto> Alloosh The server is on a wireless router via 10/100 cat5, the client0(my notebook with ubuntu) via wireless, and the client1(a desktop with XP home) via 10/100 cat 5
[01:14] <inventorgp> ranjan: hmm.... you think I should give it a try?? I've got a spare partition....
[01:14] <nomad111> does anyone in here use a logitech vx revolution mouse?
[01:14] <ranjan> inventorgp: don't know i have never used it
[01:14] <tikka> Anyone setup ubuntu with an Acer Laptop, and having issues with the cdrom hdc.. hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdc: drive not ready for command
[01:15] <inventorgp> ranjan: lol.. ok
[01:15] <sugakushuto> inventorgp I installed all of the cool KDE educational apps but not edubuntu, I hear good things tho
[01:15] <inventorgp> ranjan: what ubuntu are you using?
[01:15] <ksivaji>  is there any command to check cpu temperature ?
[01:15] <ranjan> inventorgp: gutsy tribe 4
[01:15] <Alloosh> suga, here is the deal, first you will need to get a main machine, which is connected to the net, and you can choose windows machine or ubuntu, I prefer to get ubuntu connected directly to the net, but what ever you want is fine
[01:16] <siddharth> hiii
[01:16] <rausb0> ksivaji: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[01:16] <ranjan> inventorgp: mint cassandra on other 2 machines
[01:16] <sugakushuto> Alloosh the router is connected via wan to the net
[01:16] <siddharth> ranjan
[01:16] <siddharth> how r u
[01:16] <Hacksign> hi room i want to know a compiler's name i just remembered part of the name it's essi.......
[01:16] <siddharth> ?
[01:16] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: I will NEVER use kde.. lol.... I have a friend with it.. and he like the _____ control where you take over other edu pc's
[01:16] <Hacksign> who can tell me ?
[01:16] <siddharth> hac sone
[01:16] <ranjan> siddharth: hi
[01:16] <Alloosh> if the xp machine is connected to the net, you will need to make the connection shared, and disable the firewall, and if the ubuntu is directly connected to the net you will need to allocate ip addresses to the rest of the machine.
[01:17] <ksivaji> cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: No such file or directory
[01:17] <siddharth> ho ranjan r u indian
[01:17] <inventorgp> ranjan: a tester aye?.... hows Gutsy going along?
[01:17] <sugakushuto> inventorgp you can still use most KDE apps in Gnome tho
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !lmsensors
[01:17] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[01:17] <ranjan> siddharth: yes
[01:17] <Alloosh> suga, have you tried using internal DNS?
[01:17] <ranjan> inventorgp: its still buggy
[01:17] <siddharth> from where dear
[01:17] <inventorgp> ranjan: mint with gnome or kde?
[01:17] <siddharth> ?
[01:17] <inventorgp> ranjan.. okay
[01:17] <ranjan> siddharth: LA california
[01:18] <inventorgp> sugakushuto, yeah I know I use a couple of kde apps
[01:18] <siddharth> ohh
[01:18] <linux__alien> I created an other user called cvs but i dont find /home/cvs at all
[01:18] <ranjan> inventorgp: lint gnome
[01:18] <Alloosh> its awesome method, you will need to use a program called quidedog, try this link http://www.cwassall.co.uk/pages/linux/ubuntu-router.html
[01:18] <inventorgp> mmmm gnome
[01:18] <linux__alien> cant i create an other user called cvs and why is that the /home/cvs directory is not getting created
[01:18] <siddharth> gome  that s nice one
[01:18] <sugakushuto> Alloosh they are all connected at the same time. I have temporarily dissabled the net and configured all without firewalls and nada
[01:18] <siddharth> so whats u doing ther?
[01:19] <Hacksign> anybody could tell me?
[01:19] <ranjan> siddharth: i work here
[01:19] <sugakushuto> Alloosh basically XP will not talk to the ubuntu server
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[01:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:19] <Hacksign> ubotu,thx
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <linux__alien> could someone help me please?
[01:19] <siddharth> ohh
[01:19] <siddharth> nice
[01:19] <Hacksign> ubotu,i mean thanks
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i mean thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <linux__alien> i created a new user cvs for cvs but i dont see the /home/cvs at all
[01:20] <rausb0> Hacksign: ubotu is a bout
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubotu is a bot that I triggered
[01:20] <rausb0> *bot
[01:20] <Alloosh> can you type route -n in the terminal and tell me how it looks like there? and then type route print in the xp cmd and tell me how it looks like there?
[01:20] <inventorgp> sugakushut: well we can spam microsoft to work with Canonical
[01:20] <inventorgp> ***sugakushuto: well we can spam microsoft to work with Canonical
[01:20] <siddharth> so ranjan where is the california acjectly
[01:20] <sugakushuto> Hacksign ubotu is a bot that answers questions based on pattern recognition of your post
[01:20] <ranjan> siddharth: USA
[01:21] <sidewalk> ranjan: At what stage is 7.1 now, beta or still alpha?
[01:21] <siddharth> ohh i know that
[01:21] <gerber^Cavesup> Whenever i try to edit a text file on my NTSF mounted partition it says its a read-only file system. How do i bypass that?
[01:21] <ranjan> siddharth:  where are u?
[01:21] <siddharth> but ....me in india yaar
[01:21] <ranjan> sidewalk: alpha
[01:21] <sidewalk> ranjan: can you recommend it? :-)
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sugakushuto: We most ofen trigger the bot to reply with basic answers we dont want to type out like info on MP3's
[01:21] <siddharth> r u know hindi?
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[01:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:22] <rausb0> siddharth: it's 7.10, not 7.1 (7 for 2007, 10 for october)
[01:22] <Jjohn> Hacksign, looks like essi is a protocol and you need a C compiler for it.
[01:22] <ranjan> siddharth: where in india
[01:22] <inventorgp> ranjan, so will 7.10 come out in time then?
[01:22] <sugakushuto> inventorgp no kidding, I did notice I could see the ubuntu server early on, then after a weeks and a windows update, it all went away
[01:22] <rausb0> sidewalk: it's 7.10, not 7.1 (7 for 2007, 10 for october)
[01:22] <siddharth> do u know hindi or gujarati
[01:22] <ranjan> siddharth: i know hindi
[01:22] <guardian> hi, i upgraded feisty to gutsy but lots of things are a bit weird like font sizes and other visual stuff. do you think reinstalling gutsy from the beginning would help compared to dist-upgrade ?
[01:22] <Jjohn> Hacksign, looks like essi is a protocol and you need a C compiler for it.
[01:22] <rausb0> evil tab completion :>
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g > gerber^Cavesup
[01:22] <siddharth> me in guj
[01:22] <K3nto> how do i access the 3d cube thing that is default on the computer?
[01:22] <sidewalk> rausb0: ah, okey, thanks
[01:22] <compwiz18> K3nto, what graphics card do you have
[01:22] <Jjohn> sorry for repeat
[01:22] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: windows is a pain to get working with linux
[01:22] <compwiz18> !compiz | kento
[01:22] <ubotu> kento: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:23] <sugakushuto> gerber^Cavesup welcome back
[01:23] <compwiz18> !compiz | k3nto
[01:23] <ubotu> k3nto: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> K3nto: [1]  install accelerated drivers [2]  enable desktop effects [3]  ctrl+alt+button 1 and drag
[01:23] <K3nto> compwiz18: nvidia 7400 go
[01:23] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: my dad setup an ftp to share files... lol
[01:23] <siddharth> ranjan
[01:23] <siddharth> ?
[01:23] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: well the ftp was for other uses as well tho
[01:23] <siddharth> where r u yaar?
[01:23] <compwiz18> K3nto, you need to install graphics driver for nvidia
[01:23] <ranjan> siddharth: yes
[01:23] <siddharth> seem busy
[01:23] <compwiz18> !compiz | K3nto
[01:23] <ubotu> K3nto: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:23] <sugakushuto> Jack_Sparrow you crafty drinken pirate
[01:23] <compwiz18> K3nto, then use compiz
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[01:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:24] <K3nto> compwiz18: already installed, both the drivers AND compiz
[01:24] <siddharth> where u live in india
[01:24] <ranjan> siddharth: pune, u?
[01:24] <compwiz18> K3nto, then press ctrl+f2 and then in the box  type compiz
[01:25] <whalesalad> hey does anyone know of a tool to help me diff two mysql databases?
[01:25] <faileas> >_>
[01:25] <K3nto> compwiz18: ok now what. no cube
[01:25] <siddharth> i am from gujarar in ahemdavad
[01:25] <faileas> dump the databases and run diff?
[01:25] <compwiz18> K3nto, press ctrl+alt+left arrow
[01:25] <JonNoob> kabus: Are you back?
[01:25] <compwiz18> K3nto, or press ctrl+alt+right arrow
[01:25] <ranjan> siddharth: kem che?
[01:25] <Reilithion> So, in general, which company is more open-source friendly?  NVIDIA or ATI?  Is there a 3rd option?
[01:25] <K3nto> compwiz18: nothin just selecting text lol
[01:26] <compwiz18> hm
[01:26] <PriceChild> Reilithion, intel
[01:26] <inventorgp> sugakushuto, I'm gonna go install xcfe now....
[01:26] <compwiz18> are you sure it is running?
[01:26] <siddharth> bas majama
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Nvidia
[01:26] <siddharth> u aslo know gujarati?
[01:26] <ranjan> siddharth: i understand
[01:26] <siddharth> ohh
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic > siddharth:  ranjan
[01:26] <sugakushuto> inventorgp sounds interesting but .... ftp right.... good luck with the xfce and the poor ui that comes with it. You can change how it looks tho, just more work than Gnome
[01:26] <rausb0> ranjan, siddharth: please take your off-topic conversation to another channel. this one is for ubuntu support.
[01:27] <Reilithion> PriceChild: Is Intel that much open-source friendlier?  Have any sources I could check?
[01:27] <compwiz18> K3nto, are you sure it is running?
[01:27] <PriceChild> Reilithion, intel releases open source drivers for their video cards, wireless etc.
[01:27] <PriceChild> Reilithion, ati and nvidia's are closed binaries
[01:27] <Reilithion> Jack_Sparrow: What makes you say so?  Can you produce any sources?  I'd like to read more.
[01:27] <K3nto> compwiz18: nope. also there is an update available in update manager, and it doesnt seem to be installing
[01:27] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: guess what??!?!!? its only going to be 57.4Mb.. not a few gigatrons and 23 what ever the other things were... lol XD
[01:28] <sugakushuto> PriceChild not all intel drivers are released as source
[01:28] <PriceChild> sugakushuto, no... but more than the others :P
[01:28] <compwiz18> K3nto, what happens if you open a terminal and type compiz in it?
[01:28] <sugakushuto> inventorgp lucky
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Reilithion: Between Nvidia or ATO  people here have lots less trouble with nvidia...
[01:28] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: the ftp was for work, but I had fun it... ages ago...
[01:28] <Catsceo> is there a command to stop xserver?
[01:28] <sciboy> Hi
[01:28] <inventorgp> hi
[01:28] <sugakushuto> Jack_Sparrow thats because Nvidia has better binary support
[01:29] <K3nto> compwiz18: apparently my xgl isnt present? although nvidia drivers are enabled in the restricted thing
[01:29] <rausb0> Catsceo: you can terminate the X server immediately with ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:29] <sciboy> I'm getting an Intel Quad Q6600 and I was wondering what type of kernel I have to go for? Up till now I've been using an AMD Athlon 64
[01:29] <compwiz18> K3nto, nvidia drivers should be using aiglx
[01:29] <PriceChild> Reilithion, if you want "definitely" working suspend and resume, good power management... go with intel. If you want raw power at expense at battery life, possible loss of resume and hibernate, then choose nvidia
[01:29] <zeroflag> does anybody know an linux vm that cun run XP with directx and direct hardware access?
[01:29] <sugakushuto> K3nto are the restricted drivers properly configured?
[01:29] <rausb0> Catsceo: but it will restarted by gdm or kdm after that
[01:30] <K3nto> sugakushuto: dunno
[01:30] <K3nto> compwiz18: im gonna pastebin what happens. sec
[01:30] <compwiz18> K3nto, ok
[01:30] <sugakushuto> zeroflag that dog won't hunt. I'm a former BFV, BF2 and counterstrike source player
[01:31] <K3nto> compwiz18: http://pastebin.com/d175dbbea
[01:31] <inventorgp> CS:Source!!!
[01:31] <zeroflag> geez.
[01:31] <Zaiden> I'm having a new problem after installing Ubuntu 7.04
[01:31] <zeroflag> I can't use my raid in windows, I can't use my graphics/sound hardware in linux... great!
[01:31] <inventorgp> lol zeroflag
[01:31] <siddharth> ranjann
[01:32] <siddharth> r u there?
[01:32] <compwiz18> K3nto, try running compiz --replace
[01:32] <sugakushuto> zeroflag I have been trying to game ever since I gave up on M$ and wine is ok, cedaga is better(worth it) but you have to have a super hot rig to pull off the DirectX to OpenGL conversion
[01:32] <JonNoob> Please help... My dhcp server won't start. I am running edubuntu feisty.
[01:32] <zeroflag> sugakushuto: wine doesn't get my x-fi to work with linux, does it?
[01:32] <PriceChild> zeroflag, that isn't supported in linux eod really.
[01:33] <rausb0> JonNoob: any messages in the logs why it won't start?
[01:33] <zeroflag> PriceChild: exaclty my problem...
[01:33] <sugakushuto> zeroflag therin lies the $6M ?
[01:33] <K3nto> compwiz18: success! kinda. its flat, like flpping a peice of paper back and forth. no cube
[01:33] <JonNoob> rausb0: no messages. I checked syslog daemon.log and messages
[01:33] <zeroflag> sugakushuto: the what?
[01:33] <sugakushuto> zeroflag so far I have found that you have to be a registry wiz to get anything stable or decent
[01:34] <compwiz18> K3nto, good, so now I think that there should be a program called compiz-manager or somethnig like that?  Look in the applications menu under system toosl
[01:34] <sugakushuto> zeroflag the six million dollar question
[01:34] <K3nto> compwiz18: also, my windows dont have borders
[01:34] <Zaiden> When I install Ubuntu 6.06, how do I update to 7.04?
[01:34] <zeroflag> sugakushuto: I doubt you can get hardware drivers to work by messing with the registry...
[01:34] <PaulEU> hello!
[01:34] <PriceChild> !upgrade | Zaiden
[01:34] <ubotu> Zaiden: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:35] <rausb0> JonNoob: can you put your /etc/network/interfaces and your /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf on pastebin?
[01:35] <K3nto> compwiz18: nope no ccsm
[01:35] <JonNoob> sure. What is thr url?
[01:35] <rausb0> !pastebin > JonNoob
[01:35] <PaulEU> what's name of command for listing running on boot services? I find a'la chkconfig - but there I didn't found
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Zaiden: Do a full backup... it is very easy and it could save you if if dosent go well
[01:35] <PaulEU> it is there exists ?
[01:35] <sugakushuto> zeroflag I prefer to use Cedaga, it is pretty much wine but with many more preconfigurations to assist you in your fps addiction
[01:35] <compwiz18> K3nto, the windows with out borders problem is ..... fixable but I don't remember how
[01:35] <inventorgp> kento in system--->preferences--->>> sesions, instart up programs add beryl manager.. and emerald --replace
[01:36] <sugakushuto> zeroflag I speak from experience
[01:36] <siddharth> ranjan
[01:36] <christian> My printer stopped working since I dist-upgraded to 7.10 (Brother HL-2030)
[01:36] <Zaiden> Reason I ask is that, when I installed Ubuntu 7.04 through a live CD in Sage Graphics mode, I still got an x windows error
[01:36] <compwiz18> K3nto, if you go back to that terminal and type compiz- and then press the tab key twice after typing the -, there should be a list of programs that show up
[01:36] <christian> Is there a way to downgrade only cups (and dependencies)?
[01:36] <inventorgp> ***k3nto in system--->preferences--->>> sesions, instart up programs add beryl manager.. and emerald --replace
[01:36] <compwiz18> K3nto, see if one looks useful
[01:36] <PaulEU> :/
[01:36] <zeroflag> sugakushuto: still doesn't get my hardware to work...
[01:37] <elops> Here's the story. I want to learn linux, so I'm trying to install it on a crappy old laptop I got from a friend. It's a Compaq Armada 110 with a Pentium III and 128Mb of ram. The Ubuntu and Xubuntu livecds hang before they get to the desktop, so I can't install them. The third thing I tried, was some no-name distro called BeaFanatIX, which works. However, I've been advised to go with something more popular instead. What do I do?
[01:37] <zeroflag> sugakushuto: my problem isn't wine or games, my problem is my hardware and my IDE...
[01:37] <sugakushuto> zeroflag you are correct hardware acceleration is in a different place, getting the game made for windows to play nice with the wine API is what I am talking about
[01:37] <PaulEU> elops: do you have too small RAM
[01:37] <inventorgp> elops what version of ubuntu do you have?
[01:38] <PriceChild> !alternate | elops
[01:38] <ubotu> elops: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:38] <sugakushuto> zeroflag my bad, you need your 3d acceleration tho right?
[01:38] <JonNoob> rausb0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33435
[01:38] <zeroflag> sugakushuto: my X-FI doesn't work on linux! not even with wine!
[01:38] <PaulEU> elops: I run successfully on laptop PIII 850MHz with 392 MB RAM
[01:38] <Gary> elops, use the ALT cd
[01:38] <PriceChild> elops, you should have at leat 192Mb of ram to use the live cd
[01:38] <K3nto> inventorgp: im not using beryl or emerald though. compiz is what im using
[01:38] <sugakushuto> and your X-FI is....
[01:38] <K3nto> compwiz18: nothing really looks useful
[01:38] <zeroflag> and cuda probably won't work either...
[01:38] <inventorgp> k3nto: oh ok...
[01:38] <PriceChild> elops, use the alternate cd as ubotu has instructed you
[01:38] <Frogzoo> anyone found that vmware player 2.0 locks up on feisty?
[01:38] <zeroflag> sugakushuto: Creative X-Fi soundblaster.
[01:38] <compwiz18> K3nto, ask how you locate the compiz settings manager, I don't know how
[01:39] <PriceChild> sugakushuto, x-fi's DON'T WORK on linux.
[01:39] <sugakushuto> zeroflag sound card, it might use a software engine to decode the audio streams
[01:39] <PaulEU> hmm nobody know ?
[01:39] <K3nto> i need help configuring compiz
[01:39] <elops> PriceChild: trying the alt cd right now
[01:39] <Frogzoo> sugakushuto: x-fi closed driver coming Q3/4
[01:40] <PaulEU> hmm nobody don't know ?
[01:40] <sugakushuto> zeroflag had no idea, bitchx is delicious
[01:40] <PriceChild> K3nto, #ubuntu-effects please
[01:40] <K3nto> ok
[01:40] <PaulEU> what's name of application for listing services on console?
[01:40] <PriceChild> PaulEU, top
[01:40] <compwiz18> K3nto, sounds like that might be worth a try
[01:40] <elops> PriceChild: Should I try out linux on a virtual computer
[01:40] <sugakushuto> all - I learned something new today
[01:40] <PaulEU> PriceChild: eee?
[01:41] <PriceChild> elops, well your machine won't run it in a virtual machine... not enough ram
[01:41] <PaulEU> I'd like find command like chkconfig
[01:41] <Frogzoo> elops: maybe the live cd?
[01:41] <PaulEU> but there isn't exists
[01:41] <elops> PriceChild: what would you suggest me to do please?
[01:42] <koodycc> i cant enable desktop effects!! can someone help me with this?
[01:42] <sugakushuto> elops sure, why not
[01:42] <PriceChild> elops, well use the alternate cd...?
[01:42] <PriceChild> koodycc, #ubuntu-effects please
[01:42] <Venko> Super Penguin Racer and Tux Kart run extremely slow on this machine. I'm guessing it might be something to do with openGL. This machine uses an ATI graphics card.
[01:42] <koodycc> thanks
[01:43] <sugakushuto> Venko do you have the gl utilities installed?
[01:43] <K3nto> does anybody know why an update in update manager wouldnt go away? i can install it repeatedly
[01:43] <Venko> I haven't heard of them so I guess not.
[01:43] <ZmaX> I cannot configure my tv card: it is an CX4216x model
[01:43] <rausb0> JonNoob: looks okay. except there is a "iface eth0 inet static" line but no ip config lines for eth0. for the dhcp config, why is "next-server <IP_ADDRESS>;" commented?
[01:43] <sugakushuto> K3nto check your repositories and make sure they are compatible with each other
[01:44] <Venko> Turning openGL on on Super Tux also causes a problem. It runs smoothly without that option so it's definitely an openGL problem.
[01:44] <sugakushuto> K3nto I have wine repositories outside of the ubuntu servers and I cannot do an update
[01:45] <HolidayB> is this the correct area to ask compiz fusion questions?
[01:45] <JonNoob> Both thing just me trying to get it to work :-) i am changing it now
[01:45] <sugakushuto> Venko have you tried glxgears in a terminal?
[01:45] <K3nto> sugakushuto: i seee
[01:45] <siddharth> holiday b
[01:45] <Venko> I don't know what any of this stuff is.
[01:45] <K3nto> sugakushuto: so i gotta take em outta my sources/list?
[01:45] <siddharth> k3ntoooo
[01:45] <siddharth> hiii
[01:45] <HolidayB> sidd.. yes?
[01:45] <inventorgp> !xubuntu
[01:45] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:46] <sugakushuto> Venko they are tools to help you test the 3d capabilities of your graphics card
[01:46] <GrandKhavatari> HolidayB: Try #compiz-fusion
[01:46] <K3nto> siddharth: hello
[01:46] <Venko> Aha. *checks the package manager*
[01:46] <inventorgp> !LAMP
[01:46] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:46] <siddharth> who is ther?
[01:47] <Sonicadvance1> I is ther
[01:47] <sugakushuto> Venko also make sure you have the ati restricted drivers installed as well
[01:47] <sugakushuto> inventorgp I love, lamp
[01:48] <Venko> The ATI accelerated graphics driver is installed and in use.
[01:48] <General> well Im new to this so Im thinking 1 dumb question is ok.....how do you send a private message to a user?
[01:48] <inventorgp> sugakushuto, I cant always get it to install properly, but LAMP is GOOOOD
[01:48] <sugakushuto> Venko 2 points for the conversion
[01:48] <WTF> guys i have a simple question .. what is the BEST IRC client for linux .. or the one you use/prefer THANKYOU
[01:48] <K3nto> sugakushuto: so how do i make my repositories like eachother?
[01:49] <sugakushuto> inventorgp it works like it's the real deal, just plug it in and switch it on, but dont play with it or it will break
[01:49] <rausb0> JonNoob: of course you have to put eth0 in a subnet other than eth3
[01:49] <MARIUSmarius> can somebod yexplain to me, how to download and change new gnome themes?
[01:49] <WTF> guys i have a simple question .. what is the BEST IRC client for linux .. or the one you use/prefer THANKYOU
[01:49] <sugakushuto> WTF I didn't know there were that many.....
[01:49] <faileas> WTF: Konveraation
[01:49] <faileas> -a
[01:50] <WTF> thx
[01:50] <rausb0> WTF: there is no best, there is just personal preference. i use irssi.
[01:50] <cryx> xchat
[01:50] <KaiserDaTA> hello
[01:50] <sugakushuto> K3nto delete the ones that are causing the issue, what is not updating?
[01:50] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: I need it to be secure tho.. and I need an ftp and an email server....
[01:50] <reallyjoel> I have trouble finding the right ATI Radeon driver (I have an X700), none seem to work fully. The defualt one could play OpenGL games, but wouldn't go over 1024*768, switched to another, vice versa.. and now I don't even know which is which
[01:50] <KaiserDaTA> someone know how to put icon for files in amule to look like in emule?
[01:50] <lostat_C> !DVV
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <lostat_C> !DVD
[01:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:51] <sugakushuto> inventorgp we all have needs, seek and you will find, knock and it will be opened to you my son
[01:51] <K3nto> sugakushuto: ok now i have duplicate sources though. hold on
[01:51] <inventorgp> hehe
[01:51] <JonNoob> rausb0: did change the eth to dhcp in interfaces and uncommented next-server, but no change
[01:52] <rausb0> JonNoob: do you have internet access on that machine and do you run sshd?
[01:52] <cyphase> In Tomboy, isn't there a note name you can use to set a template for the note of the day?
[01:53] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: I was thinking of using RHEL cause its easier to setup and less time consuming.... but I did download ubuntu server 7.04.... hmm...
[01:53] <JonNoob> rausb0: i have internet access. I think i run sshd :-) How do i check it??
[01:53] <reallyjoel> !ATI
[01:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:53] <rausb0> JonNoob: pidof sshd   should return a number
[01:53] <K3nto> sugakushuto: ok i unchecked the wine repositories in the synaptic package manager and i took out the duplicate sources from sources.list
[01:53] <JonNoob> rausb0: i have internet access. I think i run sshd :-) How do i check it??
[01:53] <sugakushuto> inventorgp if you are running Ubuntu server you might as well run a debian box. all in all pretty much the same
[01:53] <JonNoob> rausb0: got a number
[01:54] <rausb0> JonNoob: okay. are you behind a NAT router?
[01:54] <JonNoob> yes
[01:54] <inventorgp> so... run Debian 4.0 instead of ubuntu server 7.04??
[01:54] <K3nto> sugakushuto: and i tried instlling the compiz update again but it still wont go away
[01:54] <rausb0> JonNoob: alright, lets take this to a separate channel
[01:55] <WTF> guys how do you update your graphics card drivers??? how do you know which one to install??? COZ my ubuntu freezes a bit and its from the graphic driver .. THANK YOU
[01:55] <sugakushuto> K3nto WHOA!! I have mine coming from budgetdedicated.com, that does not mean we have the same problem, please make sure you have the repositories you are supposed to have
[01:55] <JonNoob> ok. which?
[01:55] <rausb0> JonNoob: #rausb_room
[01:55] <sugakushuto> K3nto where does the compiz package originate from?
[01:56] <WTF> guys how do you update your graphics card drivers??? how do you know which one to install??? COZ my ubuntu freezes a bit and its from the graphic driver .. THANK YOU
[01:56] <K3nto> sugakushuto: got me. im gonna pastebin my sources.list
[01:56] <sugakushuto> WTF how do u know its the grfx?
[01:57] <thirst> is compiz available in the fiesty fawn default install from the live cd ?
[01:57] <WTF> i checked the forum
[01:57] <WTF> and my case is exactly like  aguy on the forums and it was the graphic card
[01:57] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: so... run Debian 4.0 instead of ubuntu server 7.04??
[01:57] <sugakushuto> WTF did it not have a solution?
[01:57] <K3nto> sugakushuto: http://pastebin.com/d56f9e44d
[01:57] <WTF> nope
[01:57] <sugakushuto> inventorgp if all you are needing is rehl
[01:57] <faileas> WTF: yanno, its not polite to ask something twice in such short a space of time
[01:58] <inventorgp> ??????????????????????//
[01:58] <cyberphaz> anydoes gnome have an app that functions like  kwebdesktop? so you can put a webpage as background in the destkop?
[01:58] <WTF> how do u update ur drivers anyway... Owww im sry for asking alotof questions
[01:58] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: I've only got RH7.1
[01:58] <sugakushuto> inventorgp less is more ;-)
[01:58] <GrandKhavatari> I have a AMD 64 300+ , running ubunt in 32 bit mode , but is there a speed increase when running 64 bit mode ubuntu ?
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> GrandKhavatari: no.
[01:59] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: your wise words are to wise for me.. lol
[01:59] <sugakushuto> inventorgp you are saying rhl not rehl?
[01:59] <Reilithion> GrandKhavatari: I do know that 64-bit mode allows access to more RAM, which would mean things would go faster if you used (and had) a lot of RAM.
[01:59] <inventorgp> hehe.. yes RHL7.1....
[02:00] <Dead_Guy> I've heared that burners speed up and that you can hold more ram..  not sure how true that is
[02:00] <inventorgp> not RHEL
[02:00] <WTF> sugakushuto : the forum answers just said to update your driver .. now how exactly do you update ur gaphic card's driver .. thank you
[02:00] <sugakushuto> inventorgp scrub all except for less is more
[02:00] <K3nto> sugakushuto: can you pastebin your sources.list so i know what i should have?
[02:00] <HolidayB> if i plug a previous NTFS hard-drive into the box with my ubuntu running.. will it be able to read it?
[02:00] <inventorgp> okay sugokushuto
[02:00] <inventorgp> okay sugakushuto
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> Reilithion: that is only true if your apps are 64 bit.
[02:01] <inventorgp> sugakushuto: you know where I can get a opy of RHEL... or a price.. lol
[02:01] <inventorgp> *copy
[02:01] <faileas> HolidayB: sure, if you mount it
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> HolidayB: make sure your computer is turned off first before you plug it in.
[02:01] <faileas> inventorgp: you could use centos
[02:01] <HolidayB> haha yes, i planned on turning it off
[02:01] <sugakushuto> WTF make sure you have the restricted drivers, the default X11conf file and make sure there are no other grfx drivers installed
[02:01] <Symmetria> hrm, anyone got any recommendations in here about decent squid log analyzers?
[02:01] <faileas> its the same, and free
[02:01] <Symmetria> preferably multi-threaded
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> Symmetria: splunk is quite good.
[02:02] <ompaul> inventorgp, that is not a ubuntu support question, and please check out cent-os via google
[02:02] <HolidayB> how would I go about mounting it.. it doesnt have an operating system on it.. its just one big music directory
[02:02] <Symmetria> fyrestrtr capable of handling HUGE log files?
[02:02] <inventorgp> faileas: I tried to download that through my ISP (cause it doesn't cost me Mb's)... and didn't download
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> HolidayB: once it is plugged in, turn on your computer.
[02:02] <HolidayB> right on, turning it on mounts it?
[02:02] <faileas> inventorgp: bitorrent!
[02:02] <fyrestrtr> HolidayB: double click on the computer. Then double click on the drive and enter your password.
[02:02] <sugakushuto> K3nto what version of ubuntu do you have and did you upgrade from a previous version?
[02:02] <faileas> only an idiot would download a cd using a normal connection ;)
[02:02] <inventorgp> ompaul: I wasn't asking for help with centos
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> Symmetria: yes, it is also distributed.
[02:03] <Symmetria> fyrestrtr ok, cause I've got a cache thats doing a thousand hits a second
[02:03] <inventorgp> faileas: why a torrent....
[02:03] <Symmetria> thats dumping its log files to a processing box every hour
 thanks ... ok i did that .. how do u update .. thank you
[02:03] <sugakushuto> faileas as apposed to an abnormal connection?
[02:03] <inventorgp> is ompaul a bot?
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> Symmetria: splunk works the same way; you have an agent, that dumps the logs to central server, where you query them from the web.
[02:03] <fyrestrtr> check it out.
[02:03] <faileas> sugakushuto: as opposed to say a damn fast one in a uni ;)
[02:03] <inventorgp> or does ompaul make accusations?
[02:04] <rohan> what is this error ? rohan@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[02:04] <rohan> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[02:04] <K3nto> sugakushuto: fresh install, feisty
[02:04] <sugakushuto> WTF if you have auto update on it should notify you, otherwise you will have to wait or find X11conf files that are better suited to your needs
[02:04] <MARIUSmarius> pixmap and clearlooks engines.
[02:04] <inventorgp> faileas: bit torrent isn't any faster the ftp or http for me
[02:05] <MARIUSmarius> how t oget and make them working ?
 ok thank you
[02:05] <faileas> inventorgp: not speed, reliability
[02:05] <mailavj> how to format a partion in ubuntu from command prompt
[02:05] <sp1nter> i know this is a noob question but how do I run a .run file
[02:05] <sugakushuto> K3nto you should only have deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> mailavj: Why would you not use gparted?  And yes you can do it from command line..
[02:06] <mailavj> how can i do it from command line jack
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> One sec..
[02:06] <inventorgp> Faileas: true.. Ive used bit torrents a couple of times... but the 1st time I used the the bit torrent that came with ubuntu...  This is so annoying. I have sound working, but it's very fuzzy and only left speaker is working. Any ideas what might be wrong?
[02:08] <inventorgp> faileas... I used utorrent and that was way faster that the 1st time...
[02:08] <fly_sw> i need help in file menu.lst of grub
[02:08] <mcrea> hi
[02:08] <faileas> i do use utorrent
[02:08] <faileas> my main os is windows ;p
[02:08] <mcrea> how can i activate direct rendering? (for beryl)
[02:08] <sp1nter> how do I run a .run file
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mailavj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive   has section on command line partitioning
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> sp1nter: ./somefile.rm
[02:09] <mailavj> thanks
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> err, ./somefile.run
[02:09] <sugakushuto> Dead_Guy, splinter hey, come on, I have a wall of books I had to go through to get where i am, and someone just comes along and expects me to give them the answer it took me months to find and then gets all indignant about having to wait for a measly few minutes
[02:09] <mailavj> how to associate filetypes to an application
[02:10] <fly_sw> i lost my reference of ubuntu in the list of grub.Now i cant boot Ubuntu. Anyone  helps?
[02:10] <ompaul> !grub
[02:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:10] <Dead_Guy> right but I've had a few ppl get down right nasty about me asking for a little help b4..  granted it took you a while to figure it out is too much just to help the guy out?
[02:11] <sugakushuto> Dead_Guy ok, but all I'm asking for is a little appreciation and patience from noobs, I dont mind helping at all
[02:11] <WTF> what torrent downloaders can i use on Linux??? which one is the best?? thank you? I am looking for a fast and reliable one
[02:12] <cyberphaz> i like ktorrent a lot
[02:12] <sugakushuto> WTF bittorrent is standard, azerus is good
[02:12] <Reilithion> I like bittornado
[02:12] <WTF> thank you
[02:12] <tikka> azuraus is java, java is not 'good' its bloaty
[02:12] <sugakushuto> tikka only if you get the non sun java
[02:12] <WTF> u see i have to search for them in the package manager :P im a nub
[02:13] <WTF> thank you all for ur help
[02:13] <Dead_Guy> that's just it though..  we all do appreciate the help that we get..  I remember most everyone that has helped me through anything and I try to make it a point to show my gratitude
[02:13] <tikka> sugakushuto *shrugs*
[02:13] <sugakushuto> WTF there is also the software installer off of the Applications menu, but you cannot have more than 1 package manager running at any one time
[02:14] <theo__> hello
[02:14] <fly_sw> i lost my reference of ubuntu in the list of grub.Now i cant boot Ubuntu. Anyone  helps?
[02:14] <Dead_Guy> I just wanted the guy to feel like he could ask his question...   and not feel like I did the other day is all
[02:14] <theo__> who has skype for ubuntu/
[02:14] <theo__> ?
[02:14] <WTF> yeah i use both thx :)
[02:15] <WTF> sugakushuto i use both thx
[02:15] <K3nto> can someone help me get borders for my windows?
[02:15] <sugakushuto> tikka java 1.4 and less is somewhat bloaty, sun java 1.5 and higher JRE fairly small
[02:15] <theo__> who has skype for ubuntu?
[02:15] <Dead_Guy> what is the quality like on skype?  I use a VOIP provider but mine is a lil pricier I believe
[02:15] <zipola> Who uses Skype anyway :P
[02:15] <sugakushuto> K3nto Home Depot, and maybe under System>Preferences>Theme
[02:16] <theo__> i use skype
[02:16] <theo__> how do you install skype on ubuntu 64-bit?
[02:16] <gerzel> Morning freaks
[02:16] <poison> gerzel: morning
[02:17] <gerzel> erps wrong channel.
[02:17] <sugakushuto> theo__ sudo apt-get install linux32 skype
[02:17] <theo__> thanks
[02:17] <AlinuxOSOS> hello all, I would like to install ubuntu from a pen drive... because my cd-rom is broken...is it possible ?
[02:17] <str1> hi, after installing lm-sensors correctly using the ubuntu forums guide... there is a strange zzzzz noise from my PC... i changed /etc/sensors.conf and now there is NO alarms when i type "sensors" yet noise still remains... any ideas ?  thanks
[02:17] <AlinuxOSOS> should I copy a content of CD on usbpen ?
[02:17] <Bogaurd> I'm trying to pair my bluetooth headset with my pc, so that I can use it as a sound device. Can someone point me in the direction of some information on doing this?
[02:17] <dissection> !bluray
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bluray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <dissection> !blu-ray
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blu-ray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <sugakushuto> theo__ the linux32 is so you can have 32 bit native software running while the system is still 64 bit
[02:18] <dissection> Anyone here knows about blu-ray? I checked the ubuntu site, and while it says how to play HD-DVD, it doesn't say anything about a blu-ray movie player software. Anyone know if it can be done?
[02:18] <theo__> it cant find skype!
[02:18] <gerzel> Anyhoo only my business in this channel.  I'm trying to get lynx or any other text/console based webbrowser to work, but for some reason none of  them seem to be able to access the internet.  I'm able go go online with other programs.  This xchat is running on the same box. and I'm able to do other online operations in the console like ping websites and run tinyfugue.
[02:20] <sugakushuto> dissection you might try doing a search for blueray css decrypition so you can decrypt the disk to be able to read it
[02:21] <Casperin> any recommendations for a flash program to Ubuntu?
[02:21] <sugakushuto> dissection the RIAA might also have your door beat down and have you arrested for using such software illeagaly
[02:21] <dissection> sugakushuto, I found only AACS decryption for HD-DVD.. Not for Blu-Ray
[02:21] <dissection> So you're saying I can't watch movies on my computer?
[02:21] <sugakushuto> dissection its coming or it may be hard to find due to the DMA laws in your area
[02:22] <K3nto> can someoen help me get the borders on my windows back?
[02:22] <sugakushuto> you can watch movies, no problem, you cannot decrypt a disc without constent
[02:22] <dissection> So how do I watch a blu-ray movie then?
[02:23] <sugakushuto> PS3 or find a solution to your unique problem
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[02:23] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:23] <dissection> sigh
[02:23] <dissection> I meant how do I watch it using my blu-ray drive?
[02:23] <aneb> hi
[02:23] <den> ...
[02:23] <b4l74z4r> i want to instruckt opera to automatically open azureus when i click on a torrent link but i don't know the path to the azureus executable, can nayone help?
[02:23] <Thunderzzz> Just installed Ubuntu with Wubi.  I must say it was very easy
[02:24] <Thunderzzz> I can't see some avi files.  Presume due to virtual disk with Wubi
[02:24] <Thunderzzz> This even recognized my network printer
[02:24] <Thunderzzz> Very cool
[02:24] <aneb> Thunderzzz: avi files can be seen
[02:24] <IceLink> hi there
[02:25] <aneb> Thunderzzz: so what do you mean?
[02:25] <Thunderzzz> It was black for me aneb and every once in a while I could see it
[02:25] <IceLink> is there a program for linux that can rip songs from a cd AND fill in id3-tags from an online-database?
[02:25] <Thunderzzz> I downloaded vlc player
[02:25] <sugakushuto> dissection as far as I know there is no difference between the 3 formats on linux unless you have special hardware to make it so
[02:26] <Thunderzzz> but it played the avi files with no video only sound
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> IceLink: I use sound juicer
[02:26] <dissection> Three? Whats the third one?
[02:26] <IceLink> juicer, thanks
[02:26] <faileas> Thunderzzz: sounds like a missing codec to me
[02:26] <IceLink> juice, hmh?
[02:26] <aneb> Thunderzzz: you need w32codecs i think, there is absoolutely no difference between wubi and a ubuntu install, in fact they use the same cd image.
[02:26] <Thunderzzz> I installed codecs too
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Thunderzzz: gstreamer ?
[02:27] <sugakushuto> Thunderzzz you probably just need codecs
[02:27] <Thunderzzz> np I will figure it out
[02:27] <aneb> Thunderzzz: see above
[02:27] <Thunderzzz> yeah got gstreamer
[02:27] <dissection> Thunderzzz, try VLC player
[02:27] <Thunderzzz> I did
[02:27] <Thunderzzz> one question
[02:27] <sugakushuto> dissection regular old DVD, blue ray, and HD-DVD
[02:27] <IceLink> Jack_Sparrow: you mean juice, this consoleprogram?
[02:27] <Thunderzzz> I like a clean desk top with nothing on it
[02:27] <aneb> Thunderzzz: that is why you see the wubi installer downloading a iso for ubuntu
[02:28] <dissection> sugakushuto, well DVD uses CSS, Bluray and HD DVD uses AACS
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> IceLink: No.   Program called sound juicer from the repos
[02:28] <Thunderzzz> now I have folders there
[02:28] <sugakushuto> Thunderzzz you might need pitfdll and no that is not a misspelling
[02:28] <IceLink> Jack_Sparrow: oh sorry, i didn't read the "sound" before juicer
[02:28] <gerzel> Can anyone help me get lynx to access the internet?
[02:28] <Thunderzzz> any way to get rid of them without doing something bad
[02:28] <sugakushuto> dissection yes, but it is encrypted all the same
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> IceLink: You just want it to pull the album names and song titles right?
[02:29] <IceLink> Jack_Sparrow: well, the more the better
[02:29] <aneb> Thunderzzz: um, use your miouse,. drag your mouse across the folders but press your left button first
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> IceLink: My 70 year old neighbor loves that program ... easy and reliable
[02:30] <Reilithion> Oh yeah.  Anyone know if/when the D language backend for GCC will be available in the main repositories?
[02:30] <IceLink> Jack_Sparrow: i'll try it out on that cheap disk
[02:30] <Thunderzzz> can I just delete them?
[02:30] <Thunderzzz> or unmount them?
[02:30] <aneb> Thunderzzz: yes! i am telling you how!
[02:30] <Thunderzzz> k
[02:30] <sugakushuto> Reilithion as far as I know it will never be due to licensing issues
[02:30] <aneb> Thunderzzz: then right click and look for a delete or move to trash area
[02:31] <Reilithion> sugakushuto: What licensing issues?
[02:31] <Thunderzzz> it won't hurt anything?
[02:31] <aneb> Thunderzzz: it wont
[02:31] <Thunderzzz> k
[02:31] <Thunderzzz> two are drives
[02:31] <Thunderzzz> can I unmount them aneb
[02:32] <aneb> Thunderzzz: well, you cant delete them ;-) right click on one icon, and select eject from the menu.
[02:32] <aneb> Thunderzzz: eject == unmount
[02:33] <Thunderzzz> k
[02:33] <gerzel> lynx gives me unable to connect to remote host, links crashes when I try to goto any url, I can get other non-http console based internet applications to access the web, such as ping or tinyfugue, and I can get firefox to work, along with xchat that I'm talking to you now on.  Can anyone at least point me in the direction of some help?
[02:33] <Thunderzzz> aneb what if I need to view their contents later
[02:34] <aneb> Thunderzzz: easy, let me look in the menu:
[02:34] <AlinuxOS> hello, is it possible to use USB pen as source for installing Ubuntu ? I have no CD-ROM... help!
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[02:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:34] <tatters> I want to disable virtual terminal so i only have 2 at startup but cannot find /etc/inittab  which is quoted in a howto where in ubuntu do I find this option?
[02:35] <aneb> Thunderzzz: go to places > computer, you should see both
[02:35] <aneb> Thunderzzz: click on onre, and it will automatically mount
[02:35] <jrib> tatters: startup uses /etc/event.d/tty* I believe, see:
[02:35] <Thunderzzz> thanks aneb
[02:35] <jrib> !upstart > tatters (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:35] <poison> my sound is very fuzzy and only left speaker is working
[02:36] <poison> what should I do about it?
[02:36] <Thunderzzz> hope I can learn more about this stuff
[02:36] <jrib> tatters: yeah, I mean't "upstart", not "startup"
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> AlinuxOS: You basically make a live USB which can install to your hard drive...
[02:36] <sugakushuto> Reilithion apparently I speak out of turn, the last time I worked with it(about 2 years ago) it was under a restricted license of some sort, or perhaps I have confused it with something else
[02:36] <AlinuxOS> Jack_Sparrow, how can I do this ?
[02:36] <IceLink> Jack_Sparrow: juicer seems to work, ty
[02:36] <tatters> jrib: thnx
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> IceLink: np
[02:37] <b4l74z4r> how do i view the path of the various apps in the main menu?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> AlinuxOS: Read the link uboto posted.
[02:37] <aneb> b4l74z4r: easy, um, open up the menu editor
[02:37] <jrib> b4l74z4r: right click on the ubuntu icon for the menu, edit menu, then right click -> properties on the menu item
[02:38] <aneb> jrib: oh i see
[02:38] <AlinuxOS> Jack_Sparrow, thank you!!!
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:38] <sugakushuto> im out, night.
[02:38] <Reilithion> sugakushuto: The compiler front end is licensed under both the Artistic License and the GNU GPL; sources for the front end are distributed along with the compiler binaries. The compiler back end is proprietary. But GDC is a D Compiler, built using the DMD compiler front end and the GCC back end.
[02:39] <b4l74z4r> jrib: i did that but it doesn't state the path, only some gibberish like "azureus %U"
[02:39] <MARIUSmarius> problem with canon pixma ip1000 printer
[02:39] <MARIUSmarius> not found on new printer
[02:39] <jrib> b4l74z4r: 'azureus' is the command then, to get the path, type 'which azureus' in a terminal
[02:40] <b4l74z4r> jrib: ok, thanks
[02:40] <Reilithion> is there a bulgarian ubuntu channel?
[02:40] <rausb0> !bg
[02:40] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-bg    . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[02:43] <sutabi> Is there like a mic boost I can do to my sound :( my mic is sooo low
[02:44] <habo> hey there
[02:45] <habo> guys what is the best program for extracting and mounting/playing a .cue/.bin or .iso file on linux THANK YOU
[02:45] <Frogzoo> sutabi: sound -> volume control -> preferences
[02:46] <jeroenvrp> how to disable openGL completely in x.org?
[02:46] <Frogzoo> habo: mdf2iso is usally good enough
[02:47] <Reilithion> habo: mounting .iso files is easy.  mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[02:47] <habo> thank you
[02:47] <Reilithion> habo: I use bchunk to convert .cue/.bin files to .iso files
[02:48] <sutabi> Frogzoo: I dont see the option in the Perfences to enhance sound >.>
[02:49] <habo> thank you guys
[02:49] <poison> well the sound works perfectly
[02:50] <poison> it's only on the left of the speakers though :S
[02:50] <IceLink> how to change all files in a dir with modifile?
[02:50] <faileas> !nomachine
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nomachine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <faileas> o0
[02:51] <adaptr> !nx
[02:51] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:51] <faileas> ahh
[02:51] <faileas> thanks ;)
[02:51] <adaptr> nomachine would be the company
[02:51] <Cyrax> whats a good alternative to msn on gnome ?
[02:52] <faileas> amsn ?
[02:52] <Severi> hi
[02:52] <Severi> can someone tell how i can get audio recorder working?
[02:53] <jeroenvrp> Severi: install audacity
[02:53] <Johnny_vil> hi
[02:53] <Johnny_vil> i got a question
[02:53] <Johnny_vil> is there any one to answer
[02:54] <Johnny_vil> ?
[02:54] <SlimeyPete> !ask
[02:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> again my question: how to disable opengl?
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> or un load it
[02:55] <Cyrax> jeroenvrp: mv /*.* /dev/null
[02:56] <jrib> jeroenvrp: don't do that
[02:56] <jeroenvrp> can someone ban Cyrax
[02:56] <Cyrax> :P
[02:56] <jrib> Cyrax: why would you recommend that?  don't do that here again
[02:56] <jeroenvrp> if he told that to a new bie
[02:56] <quattrodrifter> Hi
[02:56] <jeroenvrp> he/she had big problems
[02:56] <jeroenvrp> !op
[02:56] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:57] <quattrodrifter> does anybody know if xubuntu runs on 64mb ram computer?
[02:57] <Johnny_vil> which one is better for a server
[02:57] <Johnny_vil> ubunto or fedoracore or redhat?
[02:57] <adaptr> depends on what you need
[02:58] <adaptr> fedora is not a server OS
[02:58] <faileas> Johnny_vil: whichever your most familiar with ;)
[02:59] <Johnny_vil> considering the power and security what do u seggest?
[02:59] <adaptr> Johnny_vil for a dedicated server, you could try Ubuntu Server, or CentOS (=RHEL)
[02:59] <gerhard_> irc://irc.onlinegamesnet.net/mathepro
[02:59] <jeroenvrp> !ban
[02:59] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:59] <jeroenvrp> !op
[02:59] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:59] <gerhard_> im sorry
[02:59] <jrib> jeroenvrp: ok, stop.  I warned him and if he does it again he'll be banned
[02:59] <gerhard_> forgot the /
[02:59] <jeroenvrp> jrib: better to do it now
[02:59] <adaptr> that's not up to you, is it ?
[02:59] <MARIUSmarius> anybody help with canon pixma ip1000 ?
[02:59] <jeroenvrp> we dont need those kind op people here
[03:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | MARIUSmarius
[03:00] <ubotu> MARIUSmarius: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:00] <shearn89> yay! i managed to connect!
[03:00] <roshan_s> jeroenvrp: May I ask why you need to disable OpenGL? An easy way is to comment out the Load "glx" line in xorg.conf, I think.
[03:00] <faileas> Paddy_EIRE: i think he did actually ;)
[03:00] <MARIUSmarius> where can i find guide with working links how to install my printer?
[03:01] <Paddy_EIRE> MARIUSmarius: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=25278228 <-----check here
[03:01] <jrib> !printing > MARIUSmarius (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:01] <jeroenvrp> roshan_s: because I have non-accelatered onboard card and I think it gives some problems, so I want to disable openGL to see if that is the evel one
[03:01] <quattrodrifter> does anybody know if xubuntu runs on 64mb ram computer?
[03:02] <jeroenvrp> quattrodrifter: yes I think it us
[03:02] <jeroenvrp> quattrodrifter: but try trhe alternate install
[03:02] <jeroenvrp> quattrodrifter: oh wait
[03:02] <quattrodrifter> with the alternate cd?
[03:02] <roshan_s> jeroenvrp: That's not very likely. What kind of problems are you having?
[03:02] <Paddy_EIRE> quattrodrifter: you would be asking a bit much... maybe try dsl
[03:02] <shearn89> i think xubuntu needs at least 256mb.
[03:02] <pabs3> packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down, anyone know when that will be fixed?
[03:02] <jeroenvrp> roshan_s: when I play a video in vlc, sometime x is crashing
[03:02] <MARIUSmarius> thanks
[03:03] <shearn89> if you've only got 64mb, try the alternate install, and then maybe install a stirpped down window manager like openbox.
[03:03] <quattrodrifter> ok i'll try
[03:03] <jeroenvrp> quattrodrifter: wait
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> jeroenvrp: are you running any eyecandy
[03:03] <roshan_s> jeroenvrp: That is quite certainly nothing to do with OpenGL. Try looking up Xvideo. You might want to see if VLC supports different ways of rendering video
[03:03] <unixware> is there any russian chanel for ubuntu?
[03:03] <jrib> !ru | unixware
[03:03] <ubotu> unixware:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:03] <quattrodrifter> where can i choose this windowmanager?
[03:04] <unixware> jrib thanks :)
[03:04] <jeroenvrp> quattrodrifter: http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-3/
[03:04] <Paddy_EIRE> quattrodrifter: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=damnsmall
[03:04] <jeroenvrp> Paddy_EIRE: not really, maybe onlt kopete desk-list
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> jeroenvrp: oh, does any other video player crash X on you...mplayer
[03:05] <jeroenvrp> roshan_s: well so maybe there is a problem with xvideo, you say?
[03:05] <quattrodrifter> is there any option  in the alternate install to choose a stripped down windowmanager?
[03:06] <quattrodrifter> thx
[03:06] <jeroenvrp> Paddy_EIRE: well ig I compile mplayer from svn, yes it crashes also
[03:06] <hydester> how do i add more locales for setlocale to use?
[03:06] <shearn89> quattrodrifter: no, but you could try the server install.
[03:06] <habo> what can i use to run windows applications besides WINE.. thank you
[03:06] <faileas> habo: windows
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> habo: crossover office
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Is crossover Pro worth the effort
[03:06] <jeroenvrp> quattrodrifter: please read the full circle issue
[03:06] <jeroenvrp> there is a special about that in it
[03:07] <faileas> crossover office/ crossover pro/cediga are all varients of wine
[03:07] <shearn89> habo: are you using it for games, or other stuff?
[03:07] <roshan_s> jeroenvrp: Possibly. If you don't have hardware OpenGL support, any GL programs fallback to using Mesa, which is a software renderer and if anything more stable than any hardware. And video players don't use OpenGL by default anyway, so disabling OpenGL will not solve your problem. You might want to Google for your card and driver for similar problems
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> habo: wine-doors aint bad
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> habo: What are you wanting to do with it?
[03:07] <habo> games and applications
[03:07] <jeroenvrp> Paddy_EIRE: the reason why I though about openGL, is that when I cleck on openGL in ksystemsettings, the system freezes
[03:07] <habo> i wanna run mathmatica on it
[03:07] <jeroenvrp> ok I must confess I use gutsy
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> habo: Dual boot...
[03:08] <faileas> i thought there was a linux native mathematica...
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> jeroenvrp: wrong channel...ask here #ubuntu+1
[03:08] <shearn89> quattrodrifter: for a stripped install, check here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396390
[03:08] <quattrodrifter> so i should use Damnn small linux for this mashine?
[03:08] <shearn89> good thread on installing openbox from the server disk.
[03:08] <shearn89> v. stripped down.
[03:08] <habo> nope they dont they have mathmatica fo macs but not linux
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> quattrodrifter: its lite and powerfull
[03:08] <jeroenvrp> Paddy_EIRE: ok thanks
[03:08] <jrib> habo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mathematica
[03:08] <faileas> quattrodrifter: DSL is kernel 2.4 ;)
[03:09] <quattrodrifter> thx shearn89
[03:09] <habo> thx
[03:09] <shearn89> no probs.
[03:09] <shearn89> this is my first time on IRC - its pretty busy!
[03:09] <JarG0n> shearn89> first time on irc?
[03:10] <shearn89> yep.
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> shearn89: #ubuntu is a busy channel
[03:10] <shearn89> behind corporate firewall, only just got it working!
[03:10] <JarG0n> shearn89> that's strange... I remember my first time on an IRC channel.  I thought it was so cool that my computer was showing sentences people typed live.
[03:10] <JarG0n> very alien
[03:11] <shearn89> its just like messenger, but without the whole contacts thing. much cooler!
[03:11] <shearn89> i think my typing speed will improve greatly as well...
[03:11] <JarG0n> yeah, I wish I could get my employer to install an IRC server for internal communication
[03:11] <JarG0n> The Exchange server goes down alot.
[03:11] <shearn89> is exchange the windows equivalent?
[03:12] <JarG0n> The Microsoft Exchange corporate email server
[03:12] <shearn89> ahh...
[03:12] <JarG0n> It's quite slow for our needs....
[03:12] <gerber^Cavesup> Will i need to add any repo's to install flash player? Or is it allready there under what name?
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !flash gerber^Cavesup
[03:13] <SlimeyPete> !restricted
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[03:13] <tck> is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ down for anyone else ?
[03:13] <SlimeyPete> tck: me too
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> tck: yeah seems so
[03:13] <shearn89> tck: yep - can't connect.
[03:14] <shearn89> btw, what does the "!" stand for?
[03:14] <southpark>   <IRC>
[03:14] <elkbuntu> southpark, do you have a question?
[03:14] <SlimeyPete> shearn89: ubuto is a bot (a program which pretends to bea person) which responds to commands which begin with !
[03:14] <SlimeyPete> !ubotu
[03:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:14] <IdleOne> elkbuntu, he is running windows
[03:14] <MARIUSmarius> no good from those pages
[03:14] <MARIUSmarius> :(
[03:15] <shearn89> wow thats cool...
[03:15] <elkbuntu> IdleOne, not necessarily
[03:15] <MARIUSmarius> printer still not working :(
[03:15] <IdleOne> elkbuntu, look at his client
[03:15] <elkbuntu> IdleOne, yes, it can run in wine afaik
[03:15] <unixware> is richard stallman here?
[03:15] <IdleOne> elkbuntu, true
[03:15] <buck> how does one get the proper resolution that can be displayed?
[03:15] <shearn89> i'm currently on windows, running trillian.
[03:15] <southpark>   <IRC>
[03:15] <shearn89> seems to work fine.
[03:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !fixres | buck
[03:15] <ubotu> buck: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:15] <yellow_chicken> what's with the tribes 3 and 4? for 7.10? gusty
[03:15] <faileas> dirro, running x-chat 2 ;p
[03:16] <buck> thank you paddy
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> buck: no probs
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> buck: you need to know what make model of video card and what your monitor will support as well as the refresh rates.
[03:16] <Thunderzzz> Newbie really newbie question
[03:16] <buck> well jack ,.. what happeded is it worked fine .. when i installed ..
[03:17] <Thunderzzz> where can I save files with linux.  Im using wubi and ubuntu
[03:17] <aguitel> anyone know how install Mplayer -1.0 tar.bz2 ?
[03:17] <buck> than i tried to do a kernel rebuild.. learning you know...
[03:17] <SlimeyPete> Thunderzzz: in your home directory. /home/<username>.
[03:17] <DBlue> Hi, how can i use "gdmflexiserver --command UPDATE_CONFIG security/AllowRoot = false
[03:17] <giant> ok I've got Gnomebaker, and k3b instlaled, and either one can use the DVD +/- R's I've got
[03:17] <Thunderzzz> k
[03:17] <jrib> aguitel: mplayer is in ubuntu's multiverse repo, you shouldn't need to download any tar.gz, just use the Package Manager.  Are you familiar with how to do that?
[03:17] <giant> is there something special I Have to do to be able to burn to DVD's?
[03:17] <buck> and when i come back the stuff isnt right and the highest display is like a 19 inch monitor .. ihave a 22 wide
[03:17] <jetscreamer> try tar xvjf blah.bz2 first
[03:17] <SlimeyPete> giant: make sure you have mkisofs installed
[03:18] <aguitel> ok
[03:18] <DBlue> Can u help
[03:18] <aguitel> i will do it
[03:18] <giant> mkisofs is already the newest version
[03:18] <kauer> elkbuntu: Why did you chuck southpark? Just wondering... surely not because he was running Windows?!?
[03:18] <jrib> !software > aguitel (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:19] <buck> BTW i have a 7900 GT OC and a Viewsonic 2235 .. 1680 / 1050 at 60 hz
[03:19] <Lattyware> Anyone here use xChat and have a Logitech G15 keyboard, and willing to test a script I wrote to display highlighted messages on the G15's screen?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> buck: Post your etc/X11/xorg.conf   to the pastebin for people to have  look at it..
[03:20] <shearn89> kauer: it was probs cos his messages kept messing up, displaying random stuff.
[03:20] <roshan_s> kauer: Probably because his messages were like line-noise gibberish
[03:20] <DBlue> Hi, how can i use "gdmflexiserver --command UPDATE_CONFIG security/AllowRoot = false"
[03:20] <giant> buck, sounds like my setup 7800 GT, and a Gateway FPD2185W at 1680X1050
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> giant: great.. walk him through it.
[03:22] <gerso> hello room!
[03:22] <shearn89> hello gerso!
[03:22] <giant> buck, do you have the nvidia drivers installed correctly
[03:22] <shearn89> right - off to lunch...
[03:22] <gerso> shearn89, can u help me with soundcore module?
[03:23] <DBlue> Is this correct> gnome-screenshot --screen = 1
[03:23] <stuart_> i'm using xfce and just apt-get'd compix? forgot the package
[03:23] <stuart_> how do i start 3d effects?
[03:23] <buck> giant ..yeah .. what happened was  i rebuilt my kernel. and that didnt work so i have to esc back into my stable kernel and thats when all hell broke lose.. i should just install 32 bit linux
[03:24] <gerso> oops, can anyone help me w/ soundcore module?
[03:24] <gerso> buck, can u help me w/soundcore module?
[03:24] <giant> buck, I'm not sure I Can help you.  If you pastebin your xorg.conf I might be able to see an error in it if I compare it to my own
[03:24] <DBlue> i'm invisible
[03:25] <finalbeta> DBlue: I doubt that command is any good see man gnome-screenshot
[03:25] <kauer> gerso: What do you need to know? What is your actual problem?
[03:25] <gerso> buck, i keep getting a static sound, so i am going to install mobo driver
[03:26] <gerso> kauer, i keep getting a static sound, so before i install the driver i need to turn on sound support
[03:26] <gerso> kauer, so how do i turn on sound support, please help
[03:26] <Lattyware> Anyone here use xChat and have a Logitech G15 keyboard, and willing to test a script I wrote to display highlighted messages on the G15's screen? (G15Tools required)
[03:27] <DBlue> finalbeta, i want to use the screenshot program in my program, but i want to make a program for viewing how much x session are started and to have a screen shoot of all the desktops
[03:27] <dromer> does anyone know why jahplayer isn't in the repo's ?
[03:28] <kauer> gerso: Sorry, can't help you myself. My point was that questions like "can anybody help with..." aren't useful. Ask the actual question that needs an answer.
[03:28] <Lattyware> dromer: No one packaged it?
[03:28] <dromer> Lattyware: not that I know of, the jahplayer website has a .sh made for dapper
[03:28] <kauer> gerso: If you are getting static though, something is working. Not having sound support enabled generallyresults in total silence :-)
[03:28] <finalbeta> DBlue: then I doubt that program can help you.
[03:28] <buck> okay .. this works
[03:28] <buck> !fixres
[03:28] <buck> i am all better now
[03:29] <DBlue> final beta, but it only show the X1
[03:29] <reallyjoel> Can i run my Windows XP installation from a virtual machine within Ubuntu somehow?
[03:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:29] <giant> !fixres
[03:29] <DBlue> Yes
[03:29] <buck> thanks again everyone for all who helped ..
[03:29] <buck> i really appreciate this channel and the ubuntu support..
[03:29] <gerso> does anyone know how to turn on sound support?
[03:29] <buck> as far as the sound goes who was tallking to me about that .. i have no idea how that works..
[03:30] <DBlue> go to system, sound, choise alsa auto or else
[03:30] <kauer> gerso: Are you running Feisty with X?
[03:30] <gerso> kauer, i am running feisty
[03:30] <buck> .. how about this one.. anyone got opera working in 64 bit environmen t
[03:31] <buck> found it ..
[03:32] <DBlue> finalbeta, i don't how to terminate an x session, i can start one, but i cannot turn it off
[03:32] <locke> I can't drag my windows all the way over to my 2nd monitor, how do I fix this?
[03:32] <locke> DBlue: I believe it's /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:32] <DBlue> yes
[03:32] <DBlue> but, but how to choose which
[03:33] <DBlue> i have for example 3 sessions
[03:33] <finalbeta> I don't know.
[03:33] <DBlue> how to choose which of them to terminate?
[03:33] <locke> Sessions or servers?
[03:34] <gerso> can someone explain how to turn sound support on?
[03:35] <DBlue> finalbeta, please press about button on gnome-screenshot, and tell the site of the one who made that program, cause now i'm in internet caffe with stupid windows
[03:35] <finalbeta> DBlue: they will never add that, and if they do, it will take ages.
[03:35] <buck> !sound
[03:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:36] <buck> there you go gerso
[03:36] <locke> I can't drag my windows all the way over to my 2nd monitor, how do I fix this? <- I believe it is a metacity setting/problem
[03:36] <finalbeta> I'm done reporting feature requests to gnome, they don't have the man power. I report bugs, and you are lucky if those get a reply
[03:36] <IdleOne> finalbeta, volunteer to help the gnome project
[03:37] <IdleOne> finalbeta, add to the manpower
[03:37] <buck> !opera
[03:37] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:37] <coopster> I'm trying to get bind9 to use /etc/hosts as a preferred source, but entries in /etc/hosts are not being used at all.  How can I configure this?
[03:37] <dromer> 1/j #freej
[03:37] <IceLink> i've got a question. is konqueror as browser using gecko?
[03:37] <finalbeta> IdleOne: it's not a flame, it's a fact. And I have my own open source project to waste time on.
[03:38] <roshan_s> IceLink: No, it uses KHTML and, soon, WebKit
[03:38] <IceLink> are KHTML and WebKit used wherelse, too?
[03:38] <docmur> Does any one here use apt-build
[03:38] <kauer> locke: You will only be able to drag windows between monitors in xinerama mode (some video cards have special names for this), It sounds like you have two desktops rather than xinerama.
[03:38] <sahar> Hello!! when i try to use berly or when i try Desktop effects i get a white screen why this happen?
[03:38] <docmur> I'm editing the config file and I want to know what syntax it can use
[03:38] <brunotvrs> I guess your video card does not support it
[03:39] <locke> kauer: no, i have xinerama, I can drag them half way over but they stop at a certain point.
[03:39] <roshan_s> IceLink: WebKit is a derivative of KHTML used in Apple's Safari browser. KHTML isn't used in any other mainstream browsers AFAIK
[03:39] <brunotvrs> I happened to me at work... And the videocard there is some onboard stuff
[03:39] <kauer> locke: What point to they stop at? :-)
[03:39] <locke> kauer: A different point depending on the width of the window
[03:39] <IceLink> roshan_s: you meanbt "soon webkit", does this mean that konqeruror will ONLY use webkit or how
[03:40] <jeanluke123> hello
[03:40] <kauer> locke: Can you move the mouse to the other monitor? Nitdragging anything?
[03:40] <locke> kauer: yes
[03:40] <kauer> locke: Does the other monitor have task bars on it?
[03:40] <locke> kauer: no
[03:40] <roshan_s> IceLink: The KDE project and Apple are working on merging back Webkit and KHTML, so Safari and Konqueror will both end up using the merged engine, I suppose. I don't know how long this will take
[03:40] <brutha> Hi! I have a question about booting from an external drive. I installed ubuntu on a usb drive and it workes fine, however if the drive is not connected, the boot manager searches for some information that is not there. How can I install the boot record on the usb drive?
[03:41] <jeanluke123> who has a2dpd working with jabra , i get choppy sound and I have removed from hcid.conf lm accept made it lm master,
[03:41] <IceLink> roshan_s: okay thanks - ahm, are those engines buggy like the ie's or - hm
[03:41] <flow^> I need this : ->
[03:41] <flow^> 16:41:08 < oiaohm> You need aoss so you can run it before oss only programs  so there sound goes out alsa without need to lock the  oss interface.
[03:41] <flow^> and im confused :D
[03:41] <locke> kauer: I can move my panel to the other screen, it goes across the entire monitor, and I can still click things all the way over
[03:42] <roshan_s> No, they're as good or better than Gecko on standards compliance, but I hear not as well supported by sites (e.g. some new Google projects)
[03:42] <kauer> locke: Sorry, can't help you further. Maybe detail your video card and post your config to the pastebin for others to think about. Sudden thought: Are both monitors the same resolution?
[03:42] <IceLink> roshan_s: how can this be
[03:42] <kimohat> hi
[03:42] <kauer> locke: I didn;'t understand your last statements, coud you restate please?
[03:42] <locke> kauer: atm yes, but they shouldn't be, I read something about building metacity with a use metacity flag?
[03:42] <flow^> can someone help meh`:<
[03:42] <roshan_s> IceLink: Because webmasters care more about supporting popular browsers than complying with standards
[03:42] <kimohat> can any body hlep me
[03:43] <IceLink> roshan_s: okay thank ya - do you as well know opera's engine?
[03:43] <locke> kauer: my paenl is now across the entire 2nd screen, functioning properly, I just can't drag windows over
[03:43] <macabro22> what do you want kimohat?
[03:43] <kimohat> i'd like to know the path of mplayer
[03:43] <rypt> /usr/bin/mplayer? ;p
[03:43] <brunotvrs> Well... If they go for the standards and forget about popular browsers, they won't get a job :P
[03:43] <macabro22> hmm
[03:43] <roshan_s> IceLink: Opera uses its own proprietary engine, which is a whole different can of worms
[03:44] <finalbeta> roshan_s: Or, complying to standards doesn't mean your site will actually render ok
[03:44] <IceLink> roshan_s: and IE?
[03:44] <flow^> I need -> aohm> You need aoss so you can run it before oss only programs  so there sound goes out alsa without need to lock the  oss interface.
[03:44] <flow^> Can someone help me with that????
[03:44] <kauer> locke: Make a wide window on the left hand monitor. Click and hold it at the top left corner, and drag it to the right. Does any part of the dragged window appear on the second monitor?
[03:44] <flow^> Im trying o get Teamspeak 2 and Counterstrike source working
[03:44] <brunotvrs> I would, but I'm just a newbie who has no idea of what you're talking about...
[03:44] <SlimeyPete> !oss
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <SlimeyPete> huh.
[03:44] <flow^> !alsa
[03:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:44] <roshan_s> IceLink: IE uses its own engine, called Trident
[03:45] <locke> yea, the entire window that got up to the mouse
[03:45] <flow^> !alsaoss
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsaoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <flow^> !aoss
[03:45] <locke> kauer:  yea, the entire window that got up to the mouse
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <flow^> rawr
[03:45] <flow^> can someone help me with alsa oss?
[03:45] <macabro22> Flow can you play counterstrike source on linux alright?
[03:45] <IceLink> roshan_s: okay, thanks [they should better use another one]
[03:45] <flow^> macabro22 yeah im using WINE
[03:45] <flow^> but having problems with sound
[03:45] <kauer> locke: In other words, when dragging, the mouse "sticks" at the border to the next window.
[03:45] <flow^> when trying to get teamspeak working too
[03:45] <DBlue> Where i can find the source code of cp command?
[03:46] <Nunzio> flow^: wine with my games always seems to be i dunno jumpier than if i was playing in windows
[03:46] <roshan_s> DBlue: apt-get source coreutils
[03:46] <flow^> Yeah
[03:46] <macabro22> flow try setting Ubuntu to use ALSA and CS to use OSS
[03:46] <locke> kauer: Well, yea, the mouse "sticks" at the end of the first monitor when dragging windows
[03:46] <flow^> I've noticed that too but it doesent bother me so much
[03:46] <kauer> locke: If you drop the window at that point, can you then move the mouse to the other monitor, grab the window, and drag it the rest of the way?
[03:46] <flow^> hmh
[03:46] <flow^> macabro22 I think iti s
[03:46] <Nunzio> This channel should ban the word *windows*
[03:46] <Nunzio> :P
[03:46] <locke> kauer: no
[03:46] <rogue-> I need a default /etc/sudoers file. Could anyone help me by posting one to rafb.net/paste ?
[03:46] <SmSpillaz> !windows
[03:46] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:46] <Nunzio> :O
[03:46] <Enselic> I can't get my CD reader to work, but I have no idea of where to start, except in dmesg, from which I can't get any help
[03:47] <Nunzio> lol i love that
[03:47] <macabro22> flow do you use Nvidia or ATI. I have an ATI and I get crappy graphics
[03:47] <flow^> nvidia
[03:47] <kauer> locke: You cannot grab the window, or the mouse won't go over to the other monitor? This is after releasing the dragged window, of course.
[03:47] <macabro22> ahmm it figures...
[03:47] <rogue-> Nunzio: why should this channel ban the word "windows" ?
[03:47] <jeanluke123> more like ban the word microsoft
[03:47] <locke> kauer: The windows "sticks" at that same point and won't completely leave the first monitor
[03:47] <rypt> coz we aren't winux
[03:47] <SmSpillaz> !microsoft
[03:47] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:48] <kimohat> i'd like to patch mplayer for arabic subtitel
[03:48] <kimohat>  patch -p1 < MPlayer-1.0pre7-arabic-subtitles.patch
[03:48] <Nunzio> Welp, off to work ;[
[03:48] <kauer> locke: But you CAN still move the mouse over to the other monitor? And the right hand part of the window you dragged is visible on the second monitor?
[03:48] <locke> kauer: yes
[03:49] <kauer> locke: Can you grab the window in the seocnd monitor and move it to the *left*?
[03:49] <locke> kauer: yes
[03:49] <kauer> locke: This is passing strange. Passing strange.
[03:50] <kauer> locke: Paste your xorg.conf to the pastebin...
[03:50] <SmSpillaz> hey is anyone here using randr2 with the new intel driver?
[03:50] <macabro22> alright doodes. This might not be much of a challenge: Nautilus divides my folder labels weirdly when out of space say, Naut-ilus. I would like to fix that. Any ideas?
[03:50] <macabro22> I think its a bug
[03:51] <macabro22> Can you read me?
[03:51] <SmSpillaz> /kindof ironic, since that takes up more space =/
[03:51] <roshan_s> macabro22: How else would it divide it?
[03:51] <CaBlGuY> !SDL
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <SmSpillaz> !wine
[03:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:51] <CaBlGuY> !simple directmedia layer
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[03:52] <CaBlGuY> we got support for SDL??
[03:52] <macabro22> roshan_s: it should divide words without breaking up syllabes, i. e. Docu-ments and not Documen-ts
[03:53] <roshan_s> macabro22: Yes, I thank Pango is the package that handles this
[03:53] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: Of course Ubuntu has SDL
[03:53] <DBlue> bye
[03:53] <docmur> is k8 a vaild pass to march and mcpu in apt-build.conf
[03:53] <lueho> !wine
[03:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:54] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  ok, so whats the package I need to DL for it??
[03:55] <macabro22> roshan_s: pango? should I find that on synaptic?
[03:55] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: libsdl1.2debian-all
[03:55] <lock1> kauer: http://pastebin.org/440
[03:55] <leal> hello all.. where can i find libfaad for feisty?
[03:55] <Mas-Ganteng> l
[03:55] <warjo> hello, my ubuntu with beryl, is running really slow. Im not sure if this is caused from beryl or ubuntu itself
[03:55] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  of course u know I'm talking about Simple DirectMedia Layer (Linux directX alt)..  right??
[03:55] <leal> i can not install mythtv, avidemux...
[03:56] <Sno> anybody have any experience with ubuntu distcc?
[03:56] <rypt> libfaad2-0 leal
[03:56] <roshan_s> macabro22: No, your problem probably indicates a bug in Pango, which is used for text rendering. I would file a bug against nautilus though
[03:56] <Venko> warjo: ATI graphics?
[03:56] <warjo> no, nVidia
[03:56] <Thunderzzz> ok a couple of questions.  I just installed Ubuntu with the help of Wubi, so will Ubuntu update itself with its next release automatically?
[03:56] <Venko> Not the same problem as me then.
[03:56] <lueho> what is the cmd to remove all files in a folder?
[03:56] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: Yes, as I said, its libsdl1.2debian-all. I've written several SDL programs
[03:56] <lueho> fast
[03:56] <warjo> :/
[03:56] <rypt> rm -fr /* ?
[03:57] <guRL> khk
[03:57] <mike> how about rm *
[03:57] <leal> rypt: libfaad2-0: Depends: libfaad0 (>= 2.5-2.1cafuego0)
[03:57] <locke> kauer: after restart, i can drag things all the way over, however my icons don't start on my laptop monitor
[03:57] <warjo> so anyone has any ideas what's wrong here?
[03:57] <lueho> rm -r *.* ?
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  ok,  thanks..  lookin it up now..
[03:57] <leal> rypt: and do not install
[03:57] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: If you want to write or compile programs, you need libsdl1.2-dev
[03:57] <locke> What is the command to see what the screen resolution of your monitors are?
[03:57] <Sno> lueho: just do rm -r *
[03:57] <IceLink> lueho: i always use rm -r but dir but the dir is removed, too
[03:57] <macabro22> roshan_s:  how do I file a bug against nautilus. Can you help?
[03:57] <lueho> rm * worked fine
[03:57] <Thunderzzz> And can I run something similar to microsoft exchange under linux.  Im using exchange under outlook and would love to keep it under linux
[03:57] <sahar> someone can help me in private communication?
[03:57] <lueho> tanks
[03:57] <ohad> hi, i'm running feisty with 2.6.22-9 generic on my x61s thinkpad. major problems with wireless and coming back from suspend -- help?
[03:57] <lueho> :)
[03:57] <rypt> err leal not according to my feiety install it doesnt
[03:57] <sonium> how can I make a usb-hdd bootable?
[03:57] <jrib> lueho: rm * .*        add -r if you want subdirectories too I guess.  Just * won't get things that start with '.'
[03:57] <rypt> *feisty
[03:58] <rypt> it install just fine
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  ummm  no, I aint all that linux knowledgable just yet..  just lookin for a directX alternative at this point..
[03:58] <lueho> icelink i want the folder still there so... i just needed to remove a few gb of porno
[03:58] <lueho> i need more room for new porno
[03:58] <lueho> disk space even
[03:58] <ohad> anyone?
[03:58] <rypt> The following NEW packages will be installed libfaad2-0
[03:58] <jrib> !please > ohad (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:58] <rypt> works fine heh
[03:58] <Pelo> sonium,  using gparted flag the first partition as boot and set your computer bios to boot from the usb hdd
[03:58] <leal> rypt: Ok... so....
[03:59] <sonium> Pelo, does not work, do you know what the flag actually does?
[03:59] <roshan_s> macabro22: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+filebug
[03:59] <Pelo> ohad, look up your comp or wifi card model in the forum see what others have to say about it
[03:59] <poison> heya
[03:59] <macabro22> thanks
[03:59] <poison> how do I uninstall something I installed with dpkg?
[03:59] <CaBlGuY> ohad, all you should have to do is switch the power save settings, and u should be good to go
[03:59] <ohad> Pelo, already done so. wireless is working but flaky
[04:00] <kauer> locke: What does "CRT, CRT+LFP" mean in monitor layout? I'd expect to see something more like "CRT, LVDS".
[04:00] <ohad> CaBlGuY, on the x61s?
[04:00] <lueho> !repositories
[04:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:00] <warjo> Hey guys, anyone who can help me with that slow issue? :(
[04:00] <jrib> poison: dpkg -r, apt-get remove, aptitude remove, synaptic, ... any package manager.  It should show up in the same database
[04:00] <rypt> fs, is packages.ubuntu.com broke :(
[04:00] <CaBlGuY> ohad: whens the last time you did an update??
[04:00] <locke> kauer: yea, I don't exactly know, but it worked, so I dunno, I will try "LFP,CRT"
[04:00] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: SDL isn't really a DirectX replacement. It'll handle the input devices, etc. but for 3D programming you need OpenGL
[04:00] <ohad> this morning?.
[04:00] <poison> jrib: the graphical programs doesnt show it
[04:01] <lueho> !kernel
[04:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:01] <jrib> poison: what's the name of the package?
[04:01] <lueho> i need to get the code for the kernel. how is this done?
[04:01] <poison> bcm43xx
[04:01] <ohad> CalBlGuy - switch it off/on in the bios - are you sure you are talking about x61s? cause other people had the same problem - i can go into suspend mode - but then coming back from it i can hardly see anything on the monitor
[04:01] <locke> lueho: sudo apt-get install kernel-source i believe
[04:02] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s: Now ya tell me...  actually, im just lookin for somethin to help me run google earth..  it's chopy on my current hardware but, if I'm in winblowz, directx handles it well
[04:02] <poison> since I installed it, the comp is very slow and I wanna remove it
[04:02] <lueho> locke yes you are correct. but what do i do after this cmd?
[04:02] <kauer> locke: X will put your icons at the left of your screen. xinerama presents the window manager with one big screen, so the icons will appear on whatever the leftmost monitor is. I'm glad it works now, but I have no idea what changed.
[04:02] <Pelo> ohad,  suspend/hibernate in linux is how wholy reliable yet,  I'd investigate suspend (hibernate) problems in the forum
[04:02] <jrib> lueho: the page ubotu linked you to has a link on how to get it from git, but you can also just grab the "linux-source" package
[04:02] <lueho> jrib k
[04:02] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: SDL isn't what you need. Google Earth on Linux uses OpenGL, so you need update graphics drivers
[04:02] <locke> kauer: yea, i have them the wrong way :P
[04:02] <jrib> poison: sudo aptitude remove bcm43xx   should work then
[04:02] <lueho> the kernel is written in c?
[04:02] <lueho> i want to know plz
[04:03] <ohad> Pelo, i've done so. seems to still be a problem - thought i would find some answers here..
[04:03] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: Which graphics card do you have?
[04:03] <locke> lueho: do a locate for `uname -r`-source i think
[04:03] <CaBlGuY> ohad: sounds like you may have some hardware issues...  I have that same prob and mine is a hardware issue..  nothjing major in mine but, from time to time my screen will go out..  or darken..  I have to reboot at that point.,.
[04:04] <kauer> locke: If you haven't seen it yet, this may be of interest: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/man.html
[04:04] <ohad> CalBlGuy - it happens everytime i try to suspend --
[04:04] <poison> jrib:  thanks
[04:04] <ohad> CalBlGUy - did you get wireless to work properly ?
[04:04] <poison> is there anyway to "analyze" your computer, so you can see applications taking lots of processing power?
[04:05] <rypt> top ..
[04:05] <jrib> poison: system -> administration -> system monitor  for a gui way
[04:05] <warjo> Guys, i really need some help on this, please give me a hint or something on what to look for concerning my ubuntu beeing slow (running beryl, compiz or metacity seem to be slow too, nVidia drivers installed) resize on windows or launching programs is sooo slow
[04:05] <locke> kauer: everything works fine except that they're backwards atm :P
[04:05] <blink0> Hi, I have a new asus laptop. It seems the DVD drive is not being detected. I am surprised because it was through 7.04 CD I installed ubuntu in my system. Any help ?
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  I have a Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP
[04:06] <CaBlGuY> it's on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600 laptop
[04:06] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: Does it have 3D acceleration?
[04:06] <kauer> locke: Well this is good. Incomprehensible, but good. I do find when mucking about with X that it helps to do a full power cycle from time to time. I think the cards' firmware can get confused, sometimes.
[04:07] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  I don't believe so..  but not for sure..
[04:07] <moonlite_> sometimes after suspend my touchpad doesn't work like it should. Are there any way to "restart" it? Ie some kernelmodule i could reload?
[04:07] <kauer> locke: Can you drag an icon across? Just drag them all (mark and drag) and they will stay there.
[04:07] <lueho> why is it that i do not have to install drivers for linux when i need that done in windows? is drivers for hardware built into the kernel?
[04:07] <CaBlGuY> that's why I was lookin for the directx deal cause that workd fine..
[04:07] <locke> kauer: yea, im just concerned about when i unplug my monitor from my laptop
[04:08] <CaBlGuY> lueho: Linux is "intuative" in some things like that..  a lot better than winblowz..  ;)
[04:08] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: I don't think so either. Could you see if this command says trident somewhere: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:08] <lueho> cablebuy i was wondering because i found it strange that linux knows all my hardware and stuff when i did lspci
[04:09] <kauer> locke: If you've dragged the icons over they will still be visible on your laptop. You will have to experiment to see what happens with a reboot or a suspend/restore, but i'd expect them to still be there.
[04:09] <CaBlGuY> lueho: yes, that's common..   that's Linux
[04:09] <roshan_s> lueho: lspci just shows what the hardware calls itself. Doesn't mean all those devices are recognised
[04:09] <lueho> cableguy yes i like it alot. to hell with windows
[04:09] <lueho> roshan so how do i see that?
[04:09] <locke> kauer: I need to change which side of the screen my second monitor is on, I keep moving the mouse the wrong way :P
[04:09] <lueho> i mean sound and graphics works
[04:09] <lueho> for example
[04:09] <lueho> i use xmms, skype  etc etc
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  yes it says trident..
[04:10] <blink0> Thanks, loading piix module did the job
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> lueho: so, whats are ya bitchn for??
[04:10] <roshan_s> lueho: If everything works, then you don't need to worry about anything. If something doesn't work, that means the kernel doesn't have a driver for it ;)
[04:10] <CaBlGuY> exactly..
[04:10] <lueho> roshan i see. so then one need to edit the kernel ?
[04:11] <lueho> cableguy i am not bitching
[04:11] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: So that's about as fast as it'll go. Perhaps the DirectX software renderer is faster than Mesa (an OpenGL software renderer)
[04:11] <lueho> just asking... because linux is different compared to windows
[04:11] <aneb> !language | CaBlGuY
[04:11] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:11] <exs> How do I install a library?.. (specifically, libglibmm) Thanks (p.s. it's for Gparted)
[04:11] <aneb> "bitch" is a bad word
[04:11] <roshan_s> lueho: No, Ubuntu includes all the kernel modules there are, so, no, you don't need to "edit" (recompile) the kernel
[04:11] <Stormx2> Not quite. Certain hardware won't have support from the kernel, some might, but not have the neccessary apps / setup for it to work immediately.
[04:11] <aneb> exs: you dont
[04:11] <locke> kauer: heh, that's weird, when I print screen it cuts off part of the second window
[04:12] <roshan_s> lueho: If all your hardware is working, then what's the problem?
[04:12] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  well shoot..   so, until I upgrade to a faster laptop then I'm stuck then  huh..  *sigh*
[04:12] <exs> aneb:  what do you mean "You don't"
[04:12] <lueho> roshan ok... well anyway i downloaded the kernel source... i want to look at the code
[04:12] <kauer> I wouldn't like it if people banned ********* and ********. If those words were censored i would find it impossible to talk about how to avoid ********* products, or to discuss X-*******, for example. It would not be possible to talk about ordinary household glass ******, either! Or to discuss how ********* can be defeated in the marketplace. On the whole, censorship, even of ********* or *******, is probably a bad idea.
[04:12] <aneb> exs: just install gparted and you're done
[04:12] <Stormx2> kauer: I suggest you stop now.
[04:12] <anandanbu> Problem while installing soylent in ubuntu 7.04 and it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33447/ need help
[04:12] <aneb> kauer: stop questioning the authority of the ops
[04:13] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: I'm afraid so
[04:13] <kauer> locke: do you mean "second monitor"? That's probably due to you running the two at different resolutions, There are "dead" unreachable areas off the smaller screen.
[04:13] <exs> aneb:  I'm working on a machine with no internet access. therefore I'm getting all the files I need for gparted on a USB stick. I downloaded the library files seperatley on their website with a .deb, but it (for some reason) did not include libglibmm
[04:13] <aneb> kauer: i agree with you, but that doesnt mean i have the right to subvert the entire channel by ranting about swear words while actually beingg very hypocritical.
[04:13] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  so, what good is this SDL then..  if it doesn't do the same thing as Directx???
[04:14] <locke> kauer: oh, I see, one is widescreen one isn't, so having the same resolution isn't really a good option :/
[04:14] <CaBlGuY> that makes no sense to me..
[04:14] <kauer> aneb and StormX2: go out and get a sense of humour, for gosh sake :-)
[04:14] <roshan_s> lueho: That's a good idea, if you can make sense of it. If you improve something, send a patch to Linus Torvalds :)
[04:14] <elkbuntu> kauer, if you persist in being disruptive you will be removed. this your warning.
[04:15] <kauer> locke: "Widescreen"? One is 1280x1024, the other is 1024x784 (or something, I've closed your paste).
[04:15] <Stormx2> kauer: You were trying to make a point through the medium of humour, where in actual fact you should a) Take your point to
[04:15] <Stormx2> Uhg
[04:15] <locke> please leave kauer alone since he's the only one trying to help me
[04:15] <lueho> roshan you get cash for a improvment they like?
[04:15] <aneb> kauer: and?  humour does not transfer over very well on IRC. again, lets stop :-)
[04:15] <roshan_s> CaBlGuY: SDL is for programmers who want a DirectX like way of accessing input devices, etc that works on all platforms. That's why I thought you wanted to program with it. It's not for end users
[04:15] <Stormx2> #ubuntu-ops and b) Not try (and fail) to be funny.
[04:15] <locke> kauer: one is 1280x800, the other is 1024x768
[04:15] <reallyjoel> is there a driver for full NTFS support?
[04:15] <Stormx2> !ntfs-3g | reallyjoel
[04:15] <ubotu> reallyjoel: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:15] <roshan_s> lueho: But you get a warm feeling inside, which is worth more :) Plus you'll get respect from everyone here ;)
[04:16] <CaBlGuY> roshan_s:  well shoot..   that don't make no sense...  that's not the way it reads on the website neather..  :/
[04:16] <reallyjoel> thanks
[04:16] <Stormx2> reallyjoel: It isn't "full", things like permissions are unsupported, but everything else works.
[04:16] <lueho> roshan haha okey man