[00:01] <jcorgan> well, thanks
[00:04] <mjw99> wilee-nilee; it's been insightful and thanks for the clarification
[00:04] <lloowen> Hello all -- Just migrated my Ubunt 12.04 LTS from an OpenVZ container to my local system. Things wen't OK but I just noticed that iptables has not been compiled into the kernel, which was copied from the backup. I've installed a newer kernel and it works OK. But when i reboot, some setting is not enabling iptables into the new kernel. Any ideas where I should look to delet this setting?
[00:06] <pinPoint> is there a way of creating your own cloud storage in ubuntu?
[00:09] <Anho> how do I copy/paste from host to ubuntu running in VirtualBox?
[00:10] <reisio> Anho: you'd want virtualbox guest additions installed
[00:11] <reisio> Anho: http://wvarner.blogspot.com/2008/05/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions.html
[00:11] <Anho> I did
[00:11] <reisio> Anho: you might have to enable it in prefs, too, I forget
[00:11] <reisio> I doubt it, think that's vmware
[00:12] <Anho> hmm
[00:13] <reisio> Anho: ah
[00:14] <reisio> Anho: prefs > General > Advanced (tab) > shared clipboard
[00:15] <Anho> ty!
[00:17] <heroinhero115> i keep getting an error when trying to install
[00:18] <heroinhero115> its the same error with any version of linux/ubuntu
[00:18] <heroinhero115> i'm stuck with 12.10 and really hate it
[00:18] <heroinhero115> is uprading advisable?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, Might you share the error?
[00:20] <heroinhero115> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65830/errno-5-input-output-error-when-trying-to-install
[00:20] <heroinhero115> this one
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, Have you done any of the suggested options?
[00:22] <heroinhero115> yeah
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, I will be glad to help you, however I am noticing just a lack of detailed posts and answers, does this make sense to you for a quick resolution, this is a free service. ;)
[00:24] <heroinhero115> not sure what you mean
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> heroinhero115, Cool, someone can help, not me best of luck. ;)
[00:27] <loadid_czech> heroinhero115: sounds like a hard drive failure
[00:27] <adminewb> is someone aware of the rationale, for why ubuntu consistently doesn't provide jigdo and jigdo template files, for "desktop" variants on a given release; alternate and server editions consistently do! 12.04.3 latest case in point
[00:27] <heroinhero115> would formatting do anything?
[00:27] <loadid_czech> if you used to use windows on it.. maybe needs a thourough chkdsk to fix errors first.
[00:28] <heroinhero115> windows and linux mint
[00:28] <startek> is there a Ubuntu iso that doesn't include all the ads to make you buy stuff like on the software center, Ubuntu One, Rhythmbox, Amazon.. etc
[00:28] <loadid_czech> if you can still boot into windows run scandisk and shutdown properly then try to reinstall
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> startek, You can turn all that off and remove it if needed.
[00:29] <loadid_czech> would be cool to have an analog clock widget that also shows lunar cycle
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> some of it anyway, not sure on the software center I never use it
[00:29] <heroinhero115> startek: anything but unity
[00:30] <startek> loadid_czech, i saw someone have one on a customized conky
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, you can just do rsync or zsync unless you have to have gui.
[00:30] <heroinhero115> i think unity is the only one with spyware
[00:31] <adminewb> wilee-nilee ok but it still makes no sense to not provide jigdo's
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, Its a 3rd party right?
[00:31] <adminewb> pardon?
[00:31] <startek> heroinhero115, is there a way to just use the unity side panel quick lanucher?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, Who puts together jigdo?
[00:32] <adminewb> i'm looking at http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/, it's been this way for years afaict
[00:32] <heroinhero115> not that i know of
[00:32] <adminewb> i've pointed it out before on this channel and nothing gets done
[00:32] <startek> i actually kinda like the unity quick launch panel heh
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, look in development here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigdo#History
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> "Jigdo is no longer undergoing active development, but is in "maintenance mode" - development has stopped"
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> took ablut 3 seconds to find that
[00:35] <adminewb> wilee-nilee, i'm aware that no one is improving jigdo, but it's still plenty useful from my standpoint; debian still uses it to distribute images and so does ubuntu for some of the builds
[00:36] <heroinhero115> startek: it's such an eyesore. would be better if it wasn't fixed
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, I suspect that what you find important is not necessarily shred b y everyone, debian is a good system, but is old in every respect but the unstable and it is undated. Maybe you should add in some way to having it work the way you think it should I guess. ;)
[00:38] <startek> when WinXP support ends i'll install a distro that has a single click quick launch on relatives' computers who are not good with computers
[00:39] <GSilva> I installed Ardour on Ubuntu 13.04 and I have no sound since that. Can anyone help?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> XP the zombie of all OS's that MS just cant kill.. Wife and grandkids can handle Unity and Lubuntu just fine.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !info ardour
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis`224 days till its death
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i belive its death has been reported/tried several times in the past also. ;)
[00:40] <adminewb> due to inertia then, the senselessness of partial support will continue
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, heh, yeah, that's the ##windows Chanel chant
[00:41] <GSilva> well, Clementine is working, but other then that... Nothing has sound
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> adminewb, There is a reason why we are not hunter gathers anymore in general, its called adaptation, it can be quite helpful to move on rather than stew on unfixable issues.
[00:42] <shortstraw8> I am looking for a program that I can modify some PDF files. All I need to do is add some red lines for a final positions on our antennas. I have tried gimp, libre draw and cad, and also blender none of these allow me to just draw. Anyone know of a good editor? running 12.04
[00:43] <mjayk> shortstraw8: gimme 2 secs
[00:43] <mjayk> shortstraw8: replicago reader
[00:44] <startek> shortstraw8, did you try copying the text to libre draw stuff and resave it as pdf?
[00:44] <mjayk> that never works formatting and funny chars go to pot
[00:44] <adminewb> the analogy doesn't work, sorry, and unfixable also is a distortion
[00:44] <pfifo> Hello everyone
[00:44] <mjayk> hihi
[00:45] <GSilva> can anyone help?
[00:45] <loadid_czech> shortstraw8: gimp would do what you needed it to do?
[00:45] <shortstraw8> startek, yes it is in pdf now, I have taken it to jpg, but the issue is I lose the the approved stamps from all the parent companies and engineers. I will try that mjayk thanks
[00:46] <loadid_czech> why would you take it to jpg shortstraw8?
[00:46] <loadid_czech> just edit the pdf and export a new pdf
[00:47] <startek> GSilva, maybe its muted
[00:47] <shortstraw8> loadid_czech, How do I just do a solid line cause my lines are all over the place
[00:47] <Muelli> I'd probably use TikZ.
[00:47] <shortstraw8> loadid_czech, So I could use libre draw
[00:48] <loadid_czech> shortstraw8: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-simpleobjects.html
[00:48] <away99> i prefer inkscape
[00:49] <loadid_czech> you can use lots of things to draw simple straight lines shortstraw8...
[00:49] <startek> GSilva, maybe some kids made a how-to tutorial on youtube, try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ES7p4ejX0
[00:50] <shortstraw8>  loadid_czech sweet thanks! I seriously look for this exact thing, guess I should have just gone to the source.
[00:51] <GSilva> startek, I'm not interested on the application, I just removed it and... no sound
[00:51] <loadid_czech> GSilva: have you checked your audio prefs? you mabey need to move your sound card to the top of the list?
[00:52] <GSilva> btw, I have no sound on Chrome..
[00:52] <GSilva> loadid_czech, it's activated
[00:52] <loadid_czech> not activated, prefered
[00:52] <GSilva> yes, re-checked
[00:53] <GSilva> clementine works now (re-boot the pc)
[00:53] <GSilva> and so does Chrome
[00:53] <GSilva> thanks anyway :)
[00:53] <loadid_czech> sounds like somethings gettings piped incorrectly if clemintine still works... maybe your jack settings?
[00:53] <GSilva> I've removed jack and something went wrong in there...
[00:54] <loadid_czech> yeah, i don't think ardour would have messed up your sound... because I don't think it can, it would be dependent on the jack settings
[00:55] <pfifo> GSilva, you likely didnt stop jack, removing it might not actually stop the service
[00:55] <GSilva> yes, probably pfifo
[00:56] <loadid_czech> to get the obvoius out of the way GSilva.. you've rebooted?
[00:57] <loadid_czech> apt-get remove --purge jack
[00:57] <GSilva> loadid_czech, yeah, I did that and everything went back to normal :) Kind of new to Linux... Can't work out problems that easily
[00:57] <loadid_czech> or jackd maybe?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> removeing jack may have removed other bits.. reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop'or whatever desktop you use should make sure they are installed
[00:57] <loadid_czech> ugh
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> jackd confuses me too much. ;)
[00:58] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm guessing that this has already happened to someone, but I did a recent dist-upgrade on 13.04 server, and now grub doesn't timeout to the first option, it just waits, obviously that's not an option for a server...
[00:58] <loadid_czech> jackd is confusing, but works nicely in some cases
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Seven_Six_Two, Have you tried running update-grub
[00:59] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, change the GRUB_TIMEOUT line in /etc/defaults/grub and then run `sudo update-grub`
[01:00] <pfifo> brb, switching kernels
[01:01] <TLoFP1> hi guys easy question: how can I change sound device?
[01:01] <TLoFP1> alsamixer lets me change sound card... but my sound card has HDMI and analog out
[01:01] <TLoFP1> I need to have it play on analog out, not hdmi
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> TLoFP1:  i seem to recall pavucontrol for that
[01:02] <TLoFP1> Dr_Willis: giving it a shot
[01:04] <TLoFP1> Dr_Willis: didn't work
[01:04] <TLoFP1> it doesn't have a section to switch between HDMI and analog
[01:04] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: you need to have pulse audio installed for pavucontrol to work
[01:05] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: already installed
[01:05] <TLoFP1> the thing is UBUNTU is talking to a sound card but no sound emits from laptop
[01:05] <TLoFP1> on either headphone jack OR build in speaker
[01:07] <Seven_Six_Two> wilee-nilee, not yet. I just got it down from the shelf and plugged it in to find the grub screen\
[01:07] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: in pavucontrol what do you have selected as output device/port?
[01:08] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, I'll give that a shot, thanks.
[01:09] <loadid_czech> ohh... nevermind, i see you tried both.  have you rebooted TLoFP1?
[01:09] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: no
[01:10] <Sach> Just did a fresh install of ubuntu, but the OS doesnt see my wireless hardware.  How do I 'activate' it?
[01:10] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: pavucontrol seems to give me the option to switch to analog out
[01:10] <TLoFP1> but still no noise emittes from speakers
[01:10] <pfifo> Sach, what wireless hardware do you have?
[01:10] <Seven_Six_Two> interestingly, GRUB_TIMEOUT=2
[01:10] <TLoFP1> even though pavucontrol seems to indicate that it is playing
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> make sure you got the volume up on the speakers? ;)
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Sach, this an internal wifi, can you identify it, lspci internal lsusb if usb.
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> and no headphones plugged in.. (did that last week)
[01:11] <usr13> TLoFP1: alsamixer
[01:11] <TLoFP1> usr13: alsamixer doesn't allow me switch away from HDMi
[01:11] <Sach> wilee-nilee: it's the wireless card that is preinstalled in my laptop
[01:11] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: have you tried to do any interesting hacking to pipe audio into a recordable channel? that can mess things up sometimes
[01:11] <TLoFP1> it shows however that I am still set on HDMI, no matter what I select in pavucontrol
[01:11] <usr13> TLoFP1: You don't see the option(s) in alsamixer  ?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Sach, lspci in the terminal and tell up what it is.
[01:12] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: no, im vanilla
[01:12] <Sach> pfifo: not sure exactly...whatever was preinstalled in the laptop by the manufacturer.
[01:12] <TLoFP1> usr13: no, I do not, I can change soundcards via f6
[01:12] <TLoFP1> but that is not what I am trying to accomplish
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> Seven_Six_Two, This sever the only OS installed on the HD?
[01:12] <loadid_czech> have you tried unplugging the hdmi.. maybe something is prefering hdmi over pavucontrol
[01:12] <pfifo> Sach, can you pastebin the output of `lshw`
[01:13] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: hdmi is not pluged in
[01:13] <TLoFP1> just using laptop as is
[01:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: Anything muted? or turned down? (like PCM maybe?)
[01:13] <Seven_Six_Two> wilee-nilee, yes, and I did as you suggested and this reboot it defaulted properly
[01:13] <Seven_Six_Two> wilee-nilee, thanks!!
[01:13] <TLoFP1> usr13: no everything on 100%
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> cool
[01:13] <Sach> wilee-nilee: broadcom
[01:13] <loadid_czech> pavucontrol levels are moving you said, which means the system sees sound.. do you have jack installed?
[01:14] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: jack as in software, or a audio jack pluged in?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> Sach, Cool, we have broadcom wiki, pfifo is more knowledgeable here.
[01:14] <loadid_czech> jack software
[01:14] <TLoFP1> no
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | Sach just for info
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> although now I've noticed that it requires some usb keys that have fstab entries in order to boot. that shouldn't be. It should just put an error entry and resume as it's just data.
[01:14] <TLoFP1> installing now, report in a sec
[01:14] <usr13> TLoFP1: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[01:15] <loadid_czech> have you checked the audio settings of the individual program to make sure it's not piping audio somewhere wierd?
[01:15] <TLoFP1> usr13: play not installed
[01:15] <usr13> TLoFP1: install sox
[01:15] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: all programs don't work
[01:15] <TLoFP1> across the board
[01:15] <TLoFP1> installing sox
[01:15] <loadid_czech> didn't you said clemintine worked? or was that someone else?
[01:16] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: I made no reference to clemintine
[01:16] <TLoFP1> usr13: it is playing
[01:16] <TLoFP1> but no sound
[01:16] <TLoFP1> no error of any sort, just indicates sucessful playing, but my ears hear nothing
[01:16] <loadid_czech> when did sound break?
[01:16] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: never worked
[01:17] <TLoFP1> fresh install of ubuntu
[01:17] <usr13> TLoFP1: Did you install sox?
[01:17] <TLoFP1> (you know: NSA + windows 8 = not fun)
[01:17] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes sox is installed now
[01:17] <loadid_czech> maybe hardware issue?  are you sure the speakers work?
[01:17] <TLoFP1> it allowed me to play alsa/*
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys quick question so when ever i randomly turn on my laptop sometimes out of the blue it will boot into console instead of the GUI i have tried to figure it out but i cant find a fix, and alot of people with an Acer Aspire one Laptop so someone suggested to look at Xorg.0.log and I have and posted the results here http://pastebin.com/13GhXjQY but i cannot figure out why it is happening
[01:17] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: yes I dual boot Win7
[01:17] <TLoFP1> speakers work fine
[01:17] <loadid_czech> type beep in a console? do you get a post beep?
[01:17] <usr13> TLoFP1: It is a hardware issue.  Is it a laptop?
[01:17] <Psil0Cybin> can someone help me further diagnose the problem it happends randomly, and is fixed by a quick restart but it never used to happen
[01:17] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: when I open alsamixer it clearly indicates that it is streaming to HDMI
[01:17] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes laptop
[01:18] <usr13> TLoFP1: Trun speaker volume(s) up.
[01:18] <TLoFP1> I just need to convnice the laptop to not pipe the audio to HDMI
[01:18] <TLoFP1> usr13: 100%
[01:18] <usr13> TLoFP1: Function Keys?
[01:18] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: in you sound control prefs do you have hdmi prefered over your built-in-analog?
[01:18] <TLoFP1> usr13: controll system settings, tried all
[01:18] <usr13> TLoFP1: Or a mechanical volume control?
[01:19] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: yes, in puvcontrol I see this
[01:19] <TLoFP1> usr13: nothing mechanical
[01:19] <loadid_czech> no, not in pavucontrol... in sound prefs
[01:19] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: but selecting another "profile" did not change what alsamixer reports
[01:19] <usr13> TLoFP1: Function key combination?
[01:19] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: I do not know how to get to "sound prefs"
[01:19] <TLoFP1> I can only get to "sound settings"
[01:19] <TLoFP1> from the pics I saw online these are two very different dialogs
[01:19] <loadid_czech> ok.. maybe sound settings.. looking for phonon
[01:19] <mouses> does anybody have a live stream MTV link?
[01:19] <TLoFP1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41858/shortcut-to-switch-between-analog-stereo-output-hdmi-audio-output
[01:19] <loadid_czech> i think..
[01:20] <loadid_czech> or is phonon only a kde thing?
[01:20] <usr13> TLoFP1: What is the make and model of your laptop?
[01:20] <TLoFP1> i do not know how to pull up that window, it is what I need, I belive
[01:20] <loadid_czech> it's in your control panel
[01:20] <TLoFP1> Panasonic Toughbook CF31-MK2
[01:20] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: how to get to control panel?
[01:20] <loadid_czech> where you set mouse things, and display resolutions etc... there's a sound one
[01:20] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, im not seeing any X errors in that log, what exactly does it boot to?
[01:20] <TLoFP1> since unity I can't find my ass with a map in ubuntu anymore
[01:20] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: randomly when i turn on my laptop instead of getting to the GUI I get to a Terminal login
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> so username and password
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> and the only way to get into gui is to type startxfce4
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> but then it loads without Window Compositing or what ever (so no transparency) but then I restart
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> and it works perfectly fine
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> and it happens just randomly out of the blue
[01:21] <TLoFP1> when I type control panel into the unity launcher I only get pictures of womens underware
[01:21] <TLoFP1> while pleasent to look at, they don't get my sound working
[01:21] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, startxfce4 isnt the right way to start X
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> so technically i cannot turn on my laptop and go to the other room because 1/9 chances it will boot into terminal instead of my login screen...and i have to fix it by restarting
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> but it just boots into terminal
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> without a GUI
[01:22] <loadid_czech> Psil0Cybin: sounds like a driver issue.. your gui crashes when it tries to start with composting
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> which is abnormal
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> !manual | TLoFP1
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> loadid_czech: but it happens once in a blue moon
[01:22] <loadid_czech> do you have an nvidia card Psil0Cybin?
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> nothing consistant
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> nope i have a acer aspire one
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> top right gear/whatever it is - icon - has some menu/with a settings item
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> loadid_czech: but it only started doing it randomly
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> like out of th blue this never used to happen
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> and i didnt change anything
[01:22] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, is this log from when you experience this problem?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> then i  notice  a 'system settings' icon in the unity left side panel. ;)
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: this is a log from the second i got back into Xfce after restarting
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> so i have to record a log from when it happens?
[01:23] <usr13> TLoFP1: How about the "keyboard volume and mute controls"?
[01:24] <usr13> TLoFP1: (Page 2 of  http://www.cdsofficetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/tb31.pdf )
[01:24] <pfifo> Psil0Cybin, next time it happens get the most active log while at the terminal, and grep it for the string EE to see if there are errors
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> pfifo: just because it happens every random time
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks pfifo
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> i will try that!
[01:24] <loadid_czech> it doesn't sound to me like anything is muted, you just have the wrong sound card selected
[01:24] <simon_> hi, all
[01:25] <loadid_czech> hello simon_
[01:25] <simon_> is this offfical of ubuntu?
[01:25] <loadid_czech> this is a community driven public help chat room
[01:26] <pfifo> simon_, yes it is
[01:26] <simon_> Wow, the first i use it!
[01:27] <pfifo> welcome
[01:27] <TLoFP1> mhh so, laptop froze... :( anyways, ubuntu has super fast boot :)
[01:27] <simon_> Wow, the first i use it!! but now i use the OS with Windows XP SP3
[01:28] <TLoFP1> now I still haven't found out how to access "sound preference"
[01:28] <TLoFP1> and every mention of "control panel" refers to a time when unity didn't exist
[01:28] <usr13> TLoFP1: What about the keyboard volume and mute controls?
[01:28] <loadid_czech> i'm pretty sure it's in there somewhere TLoFP1... the gear icon thing
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> !manual | simon_
[01:28] <pfifo> simon_, normally this channel is reserved for support requests, for general chat, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> simon_:  you install it..or run it in virtualbox. - then use the OS.
[01:28] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: thats settings
[01:29] <loadid_czech> yeah, sound settings
[01:29] <TLoFP1> I can get to sound settings, but thats not the same as sound preference
[01:29] <loadid_czech> symantics
[01:29] <tragalo> ahh it's a wonderful day
[01:29] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: http://i.stack.imgur.com/VbPFu.png
[01:29] <TLoFP1> that is what I am looking for
[01:29] <simon_> Oh, I have installed the Ubuntu 12.04.3, the really is i have a question about Gnome-shell
[01:30] <TLoFP1> my sound settings does give me those options
[01:30] <loadid_czech> there you go
[01:30] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: thats not my screen, thats some one elses
[01:30] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: it is to show what I am looking for
[01:31] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: in sound settings, I have all the tabs the above pictures shows: EXCEPT for Hardware
[01:31] <TLoFP1> which seems to be where the crucial setting is hiding out
[01:33] <usr13> TLoFP1: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[01:34] <TLoFP1> usr13: permission denied
[01:34] <TLoFP1> even with sudo
[01:35] <usr13> TLoFP1: Never mind.    What about the keyboard volume and mute controls?
[01:35] <Ubuntu> Yo.
[01:35] <TLoFP1> usr13: everythign turned up
[01:39] <usr13> TLoFP1: Do you have 13.04 Ubuntu?  32bit?
[01:39] <TLoFP1> 64bit
[01:39] <TLoFP1> 13.04
[01:39] <usr13> TLoFP1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:40] <TLoFP1> already did that
[01:40] <Sach> Trying to run this from terminal: "sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source", but am asked if another process is using it.  What is this?
[01:40] <usr13> TLoFP1: Reboot?
[01:40] <loadid_czech> bcmwwl is broadcom wireless drivers Sach
[01:41] <Sach> loadid_czech: yes, but why won't it allow me to remove it?
[01:41] <pfifo> Sach, please pastebin the error
[01:41] <loadid_czech> sounds like it's being used.. maybe disable wi-fi and try again?
[01:41] <Sach> pfifo, how do I do that?
[01:41] <usr13> TLoFP1: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio ?
[01:41] <loadid_czech> that's an idea TLoFP1
[01:41] <TLoFP1> done
[01:41] <TLoFP1> now what? reinstall?
[01:41] <loadid_czech> apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[01:42] <pfifo> Sach, got http://fpaste.org and copy and paste the output thats in the terminal
[01:42] <lgc> Hi, my Ubuntu is in /dev/sda3. If I join /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 (Windows partitions) with Gparted, will it take care of updating Grub's and fstab entries?
[01:42] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: done
[01:42] <TLoFP1> looks like I need to reboot
[01:42] <TLoFP1> brb
[01:42] <usr13> TLoFP1: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[01:42] <pfifo> lgc, no
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> lgc, no
[01:43] <lgc> Oops, pfifo wilee-nilee.
[01:43] <Sach> pfifo, done.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> lgc, YOu can;t join with gparted per-say
[01:43] <pfifo> Sach, and then paste the link to the resulting webpage here
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Is sda1 the boot partition for winodws?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> lgc:   you may need to resize sda1, copy the data from sda2 to sda1 then resize again.. untill you take up all of sda2
[01:43] <lgc> wilee-nilee: By joining I mean deleting and reformatting to NTFS.
[01:43] <polluxtroy> new to using linux as main os have tried it before liked it decided to switch.... any advice
[01:43] <Sach> pfifo: http://fpaste.org/34706/48136713/
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> polluxtroy:  totally depends on what you need the OS to do. ;)
[01:44] <pfifo> Sach, it looks like your running another instance of apt-get or another package manager
[01:44] <palos> polluxtroy: I love linux, but at work I continue with Windows
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Ah cool, if you delete them partitions above can change numbers so be careful to remake one as is.
[01:44] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Yes.
[01:44] <startek> is the windows key used for anything in ubuntu?
[01:44] <loadid_czech> Sach: reboot and try again
[01:44] <TLoFP1> back
[01:45] <TLoFP1> all sound gone now :)
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> startek:  Unity makes  a LOT of use of the windows key
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> startek, winodws key?
[01:45] <usr13> TLoFP1: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[01:45] <loadid_czech> windows key unlocks the basement door?
[01:45] <palos> polluxtroy: I don't have time to convert all my documents & templates
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> wnndows*
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> startek:  press hold windows = shows list of shortcuts.. tap it = brings up the Dash
[01:45] <lgc> Dr_Willis: I am not interested in keeping sda1 and sda2's info.
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> lol
[01:45] <TLoFP1> usr13: its playing
[01:45] <TLoFP1> but no sound
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  then you are not joining :) you are deleteing/remakeing. ;P
[01:45] <lgc> Dr_Willis: right.
[01:45] <usr13> TLoFP1:  What about the keyboard volume and mute controls?
[01:46] <pfifo> windows key doesnt do anything in lubuntu, might as well pry it off the keyboard
[01:46] <TLoFP1> usr13: don't work anymore
[01:46] <palos> polluxtroy: LibreOffice isn't 100% compatible (they're very close)
[01:46] <loadid_czech> you can remap the key
[01:46] <usr13> TLoFP1: So, it is broken?
[01:46] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes because I just unsitalled, as was suggest
[01:46] <loadid_czech> i think it should open the K menu by default.. but that's for another #
[01:46] <TLoFP1> now I do not have any sound settings anymore
[01:46] <lgc> Still, Dr_Willis, wilee-nilee, what matters to me is /dev/sda3 and its ability to boot after such operation.
[01:47] <usr13> TLoFP1: *keyboard* volume and mute controls?
[01:47] <TLoFP1> alsamixer still works though
[01:47] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes, they no longer change system settings
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> lgc, What are you actually doing just one new partition or two?
[01:47] <usr13> TLoFP1: Not sure I understand what you are saying.  What no longer changes system settings?
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: the physical buttons, no longer change the volume in alsamixer
[01:48] <loadid_czech> as long as you don't move sda3 or mess with the boot loader you'll be good lgc.. resizing partitions won't hurt
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: furtheremore in the system bar, I no longer have a speaker icon
[01:48] <usr13> TLoFP1: Have you tried headphones?
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: sound settings also does not report a sound card anymore
[01:48] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes I have
[01:48] <loadid_czech> maybe if you delete sda1 if that's where grub resides could cause a problem but i'm not sure on that one
[01:48] <lgc> wilee-nilee: From two partitions I want to have just one. I wonder if Gparted will do the renumbering or if the numbering can be non-consecutive.
[01:49] <usr13> TLoFP1: Have you tried a set of headphones?
[01:49] <TLoFP1> usr13: yes
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> lgc, what are sda1 and sda2?
[01:49] <usr13> TLoFP1: Update alsa
[01:49] <lgc> loadid_czech: You mean that after I delete and reformat the partitions before sda3 it will still be sda3?
[01:49] <TLoFP1> usr13: newst version
[01:49] <dassouki> looking for a document collab and task management CMS of some sort for a group of 10 folks .. low budget so FOSS is ideal
[01:50] <loadid_czech> yes lgc
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> loadid_czech, Not in my exsperience at least in a exteneded
[01:50] <Obi1Kenobe> hello
[01:50] <lgc> wilee-nilee: They are Windows recovery and Windows. If I am right, you were kindly giving me advice as to what could be wrong with them the other day.
[01:51] <Obi1Kenobe> any way i can install gnome 2.6 on ubuntu 12.04?
[01:51] <usr13> TLoFP1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:51] <lgc> loadid_czech: So it won't be automatically renumbered.
[01:51] <TLoFP1> usr13: looked at that already
[01:51] <usr13> TLoFP1: "Step 3"?
[01:51] <loadid_czech> nope, won't be renumbered
[01:52] <loadid_czech> sda3 will stay sda3
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> lgc, When I have removed partitions in a extended partitions with gparted they ones above went down a number, I assume this happens with primaries.
[01:52] <lgc> loadid_czech: Allright!
[01:52] <loadid_czech> you may actually have trouble removing sda2
[01:52] <ice-man> how to fix "cheking battery state '' on backbox
[01:52] <ice-man> ?
[01:52] <loadid_czech> you can format it.. and resize it.. but sometimes you thing they will join together.. but the partitions act like jackasses and won't combine like you think they should.  still will be okay though
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> ice-man:   the 'backbox' linux disrto?
[01:53] <ice-man> yeah , i guess
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> mergeing 2 primary partions  or 2 logicals in a extendeed partion should work.
[01:53] <usr13> ice-man: What version of Ubuntu is it?
[01:54] <lgc> wilee-nilee: this is somewhat in contradiction with what loadid_czech says, I'm afraid. loadid_czech, what do you say about this?
[01:54] <usr13> ice-man: 12.04?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> ice-man:  if its not an official ubuntu variant.. then its not supported here. Id check that disrtos web site to find its support channels.
[01:54] <usr13> ice-man: Ctrl-Alt-F6  ?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> http://www.backbox.org/
[01:54] <loadid_czech> maybe that does depend on if they are primary or logical partitions
[01:54] <TLoFP1> usr13: http://pastebin.com/VKJeMG6S
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> BackBox is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu. It has been developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments
[01:55] <loadid_czech> just make sure you update-grub before you reboot after partition editing and you should be fine.
[01:56] <loadid_czech> if you're at all concerned.. don't delete any partitions.. just use them as extra storage
[01:56] <ice-man> what i get if i use  Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[01:56] <Obi1Kenobe> how can bring down the menu from top corner to the bottom corner on Gnome  12.04?
[01:56] <ice-man> excuse for my english
[01:56] <lgc> loadid_czech: I need the space in order to mount Windows again.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Obi1Kenobe:  you mean in gnome-shell? or unity? or gnome-classic mode?
[01:57] <usr13> ice-man: What *do* you get when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[01:57] <machstem> hey, anyone here ?
[01:57] <usr13> ice-man: tty6?
[01:57] <Obi1Kenobe> gnome-shell
[01:57] <machstem> that can help me?
[01:57] <bim> nope...place is empty
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | machstem
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Obi1Kenobe:  i would check out the various gnome-shell ext4ensions to see what tweaks they have
[01:57] <machstem> hey, I was wondering if anyone is around to help me out with a weird issue installing xubuntu on a ASUS EEE PC Flare Series
[01:57] <TLoFP1> usr13: let me try turning sound on in windows real quick, brb
[01:57] <lgc> loadid_czech: Can I run Gparted from sda3 if I am not going to move it?
[01:58] <machstem> I wanted to install xubuntu 12.10 for my daughter on this thing, and the process seems to go, but all throughout the install I see a message about "unable to enumerate usb device on port 1".  It goes on, over and over and over again, throughout the installer, and then on reboot after a successful install, it constantly floods the screen.  I never end up seeing a GUI, just a init3 login prompt.  It's so bad I can't even see myself type si
[01:58] <machstem> over and over again.
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> machstem, State the issue for help.
[01:58] <machstem> I installed the OS using a USB drive; having use the ubuntu usb installer method.  There are no options for me to disable USB ports in the BIOS of this thing.  I'm at a loss as I haven't been able to find anyone who can help.  I tried a command:  update-usbids and the command worked, but the messages keep appearing repeatedly.
[01:58] <machstem> there :)
[01:58] <loadid_czech> illogical question lgc
[01:58] <machstem> copy/pasted from #xubuntu
[01:58] <Obi1Kenobe> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:58] <lgc> Why so, loadid_czech ?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  seen a similer issue on a laptop i had with a Bad Webcam built in. But i was able to start the Live-cd Desktop installer with no issues. the console was constantly flooded with messages.
[01:59] <ice-man> soo can i fix this fuckin' problem ?? i don't know how to fix it ... i guess i have to say tht i'm a begginer , i use linux from 3 days nd after i made the 'updates' i get this error
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  i either disabled the webcam in the bios. or i edited the /etc/sysctl.conf once i had it installed to turn off the logging of messages.
[01:59] <ice-man> its possible to fix tht error ???
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> ice-man:  you are using  the Linux from    http://www.backbox.org/  ?
[01:59] <Obi1Kenobe> what error ice man?
[01:59] <loadid_czech> i don't think you'll have a problem lgc.. just make sure you run update-grub before you reboot.. if your partition numbers change update-grub will catch it and still let you boot into linux
[02:00] <usr13> ice-man: What *do* you get when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[02:00] <Sach> just ran a command in the terminal, but got a message I don't understand: http://fpaste.org/34708/74823661/
[02:00] <usr13> ice-man: What error do you get?
[02:00] <usr13> ice-man: What *do* you get when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[02:00] <machstem> Dr_Willis:  the BIOS is really limited and I can't seem to disable anything but the SATA controller (ugh)…but that's definitely a good start.  But what would prevent me from seeing the xubuntu login prompt; I sit at a init3 login prompt
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  could be a bad cd/iso/burn/made usb. would be my guess.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  you see the login: on the INSTALL cd/usb? correct?
[02:01] <usr13> ice-man: Ctrl-Alt-F6 =  Hold down Ctrl and Alt keys while hitting the F6 key.  (Tell us what happens when you do that.)
[02:01] <lgc> yes, loadid_czech, that part I got. What I'm not sure of is if I can afford to run grub from my HD without risking my linux.
[02:02] <loadid_czech> still not making sense lgc
[02:02] <machstem> Dr_Willis:  I get a successful install, but when I expanded the details during the installer I could see that enumeration over and over again.  The installer completed and I rebooted and now I only see the textbased login prompt
[02:02] <TLoFP1> usr13: im back
[02:02] <TLoFP1> still no sound :(
[02:02] <lgc> sorry, loadid_czech. What doesn't make sense?
[02:02] <loadid_czech> missing that hardware tab may be of issue TLoFP1
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> machstem:  you may need to get the proper video drivers setup and thats being a pain due to the hardware issue.
[02:03] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: yes, what did we unstill earlier (I can't scroll back due to reboot)
[02:03] <Sach> how do I remove bcmwl-kernel-source ?
[02:03] <loadid_czech> pulse audio TLoFP1
[02:03] <pfifo> Sach, when you run a program that installs packages it creates a file to say 'hey, im installing stuff' if any other program should then decide to install stuff, and it sees that file is there it will say 'Hey, i cant safely install this right now'
[02:03] <loadid_czech> sach apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:03] <machstem> yeah, on the #xubuntu chan someone suggested i find a different version, 13.04 possibly will work
[02:03] <TLoFP1> i reinstalled pulse audio and rebooted, but still don't see the speaker symbol in the system tray
[02:03] <TLoFP1> i used before uninstalling pulse audio
[02:03] <usr13> TLoFP1: Did you update alsa ?
[02:04] <Sach> pfifo, I just rebooted, so there is no other program running...
[02:04] <TLoFP1> usr13: alsa is up to date
[02:04] <TLoFP1> usr13: via sudo apt-get install alsa
[02:04] <loadid_czech> is it in the extended system tray TLoFP1? maybe you have a little arrow icon that shows extra system tray icons?
[02:04] <pfifo> Sach, then you can safely delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:04] <usr13> TLoFP1: "Step 3"?
[02:04] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: no arrow icon
[02:04] <Sach> pfifo, what is the command to do so?
[02:04] <TLoFP1> usr13: posted output already
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt
[02:05] <netlar> Is Ubuntu planning on integrating Google calendar in the system tray calendar?
[02:05] <usr13> TLoFP1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure  "Step 3"  (Do it.) Update alsa  using instructions in "Step 3".
[02:05] <pfifo> Sach, `sudo unlink /var/lib/dpkg/lock`
[02:05] <pfifo> Sach, do what ubottu said
[02:06] <loadid_czech> lgc: let's start at the begining... why are you resizing partitions?
[02:07] <TLoFP1> usr13: I ran step3, now what?
[02:07] <lgc> I never said I am resizing partitions, loadid_czech. I said I wanted to leave sda3 untouched. Perhaps it makes sense to you now.
[02:07] <usr13> TLoFP1: I don't know, you tell me  ;)
[02:07] <Sach> pfifo, the first command from ubottu worked, but the second command produced this: http://fpaste.org/34709/13774828/
[02:07] <loadid_czech> what are you trying to do lgc?
[02:08] <TLoFP1> usr13: well I will try another reboot
[02:08] <pfifo> Sach, you put that » in there, its not part of the command
[02:08] <lgc> loadid_czech: I want to wipe out sda1 and sda2, which are Windows and Windows Recovery, and reinstall Windows in that space, leaving sda3 untouched.
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You want windows again right in the same place?
[02:09] <loadid_czech> you're confused lgc
[02:09] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Yes, but I don't need the recovery partition anymore.
[02:09] <pfifo> Sach, its all one command, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:09] <lgc> loadid_czech: Am I?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  if you just delete sda1 and sda2 and leave them unallocated. the system should still boot in my experience. reinstaling windoww will overwrite the  bootloader
[02:09] <loadid_czech> but besides being confused about what you are trying to accomplinsh...
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Use the windows manual install to remove those partitions and install
[02:09] <loadid_czech> if you reinstall windows, you're going to bork your grub, not your sda3
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> lgc,yeah and you will have to reload grub in  the mbr no biggie use the bootrepair tool from a live cd.
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> lgc:   it also may depend on how you are putting windows back on. some system 'recovery' modes may erase other partions on the hard drive. while a Normal Windows installer should give you options
[02:10] <loadid_czech> and if you can't figure out how to resize partitions correctly, i'm definatly not going to try and explaining chrooting into your existing ext3 to update-grub on your newly installed bootloader compliments of windows
[02:10] <loadid_czech> good luck
[02:10] <TLoFP1> usr13: listening to radio
[02:11] <TLoFP1> ears are engulfed in musical glory :-)
[02:11] <TLoFP1> wow this was retarded
[02:11] <TuRnIP> what file explorer begings with n or r ahain
[02:11] <loadid_czech> TLoFP1: what was the fix?
[02:11] <TuRnIP> 4 letters
[02:11] <TLoFP1> loadid_czech: boot into windows, unmute sound
[02:11] <TLoFP1> boot back into linux
[02:11] <loadid_czech> what?
[02:11] <loadid_czech> wtf?
[02:11] <TLoFP1> yea
[02:11] <TLoFP1> I saw a reference to it on the googles
[02:11] <TLoFP1> it mentioned a particular toshiba laptop that exhibited this behavior
[02:12] <loadid_czech> must be a bios setting?
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> TLoFP1:  ;) ive seen some WEIRD sound cards where if i cold booted straight to ubuntu/linux they would work.. if i booted to windows. then rebooted back to linux without powering off - they wouldent initilize properly. ;)
[02:12] <TLoFP1> since very view people have a panasonci CF-31, and even viewer install linux on it, not much about my particular laptop was available online
[02:12] <TLoFP1> but I guess im one of those lukcy laptops :P
[02:12] <loadid_czech> interesting...
[02:13] <loadid_czech> i wonder if the aliens know about that yet
[02:13] <TLoFP1> I belive that "muting" under windows changes something in bios
[02:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: Ok, glad you got it.  (It may be that it is a BIOS setting to mute it.)
[02:13] <lgc> wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis so I proceed with normal Windows installation and I'll eventually run into some options to proceed with the partitions. Am I right?
[02:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: Right
[02:13] <usr13> TLoFP1: I think you are correct.
[02:13] <TLoFP1> this laptop has a "stealth" mode that among other thing has the ability to mute all sounds from bios
[02:13] <TLoFP1> and I belive this is also controllable via windows through a panasonic driver
[02:14] <TLoFP1> it could be that this was somehow embbeded into the sound controll
[02:14] <loadid_czech> would have to be bios or some kind of bios-level chip on the sound card itself
[02:14] <usr13> TLoFP1: Quite possibly.
[02:14] <TLoFP1> so when I muted it, it physically turned it oof
[02:14] <TLoFP1> off*
[02:15] <TuRnIP> help
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This a standard windows install disc?
[02:15] <TLoFP1> anyways, quite interesting stuff
[02:15] <TuRnIP> what file browser begins with r or n 4 letters
[02:15] <loadid_czech> you need to yell fire TuRnIP.. no one cares when people need help
[02:15] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Fresh from the Internet... ;) .
[02:16] <lgc> wilee-nilee: So I suppose it is standard.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lgc, this a legitimate MS disc?
[02:16] <pfifo> TuRnIP, try asking best bot in #ubuntu-bots
[02:16] <lgc> wilee-nilee: It's a test version, I suppose.
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> lgc, What release?
[02:17] <usr13> TuRnIP: Are talking about a file manager?
[02:17] <lgc> wilee-nilee: 8.
[02:17] <TuRnIP> nero i think it is
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> lgc, 8.1?
[02:17] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure.
[02:17] <TuRnIP> how do I remove the delete option from its file right click menu
[02:17] <Hexagonite> Can anyone help me with Virtualbox? I get 'The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv.' when starting a machine.
[02:17] <xmetal> ok trying to figure out how to get that other distro i use installed on my older laptop ... not counting the issues with ploop boot manager (not getting into that) it seems like its about to boot (liveusb) then suddenly the external CRT goes out and doesn't come back on
[02:18] <Hexagonite> I tried running the command it says but it couldn't find the script.
[02:18] <TuRnIP> move to trash should still be there tho
[02:18] <pfifo> TuRnIP, likely have to edit the source code
[02:18] <loadid_czech> Hexagonite: you need to run /usr/share/virtualbox.drv or something
[02:18] <xmetal> (old laptop with burnt out LCD light.. .hence the reason for the CRT)
[02:18] <usr13> TuRnIP: Why?
[02:18] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: couldn't find it :(
[02:18] <TuRnIP> incase I hit the wrong option
[02:18] <usr13> TuRnIP: Why would you want to remove the delete option?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You want the manual part of the partitioning is all it will allow you to remove those partions and reinstall in its place, you will need to reload grub to the mbr is all the bootrepair tool from the live ubuntu disk works nicely.
[02:18] <loadid_czech> i can't remember the exact path.. but it's something like that Hexagonite
[02:19] <TuRnIP> im kinda blind almost too...
[02:19] <qin> TuRnIP: attach red tape to Del key?
[02:19] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: the error said the path but just like what I said
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Just be sure you hit the manual portion of the partitioning.
[02:19] <TuRnIP> that key will be mapped to move to trash
[02:20] <pfifo> I had a system once, it was running a website, and I had it move stuff to /dev/null instead of deleting things due to technical limitations, it only took 4 months until I ran out of inodes
[02:20] <loadid_czech> run as sudo Hexagonite?
[02:20] <usr13> TuRnIP: Delete option as well.
[02:20] <TuRnIP> then stuff can be deleted from there
[02:20] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: of course, still not found
[02:20] <qin> TuRnIP: or remap key so new Del would be somwhere far...
[02:20] <TuRnIP> serioustly bro
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This is a mbr setup as of now right not a uefi gpt partitioning right?
[02:20] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK, so the boot repair tool will spare me from reinstalling Ubuntu and I must proceed with manual partitioning on Windows.
[02:21] <xmetal> hmm
[02:21] <qin> There is no gui file manager deleting file with no shift-del combo
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This is a mbr setup as of now right not a uefi gpt partitioning right?
[02:21] <TuRnIP> how to make wizards for linux
[02:21] <lgc> wilee-nilee: what is a uefi gpt?
[02:21] <loadid_czech> what command did you try Hexagonite?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Are you in ubuntu?
[02:21] <xmetal> will finish my snack and start googling
[02:21] <TuRnIP> is there some tool in ubuntu for to do this
[02:21] <pfifo> TuRnIP, look into programming with quickly
[02:21] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: sudo '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[02:22] <loadid_czech> and that said not found Hexagonite?
[02:22] <TuRnIP> ?
[02:22] <lgc> It's on my other machine, wilee-nilee. Do I need to check it?
[02:22] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: yep
[02:22] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: 'sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup: command not found'
[02:22] <loadid_czech> i'd try installing again, something didn't take right?
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> lgc, If you don't know already yes, run sudo fdisk -l from that ubuntu and pastebin it.
[02:22] <loadid_czech> do you have a /etc/init.d/vboxdrv folder?
[02:22] <Hexagonite> I tried to reinstall it again with 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox'
[02:23] <TuRnIP> bash can do all this?
[02:23] <loadid_czech> apt-get remove --purge virtualbox and download the .deb file from virtualbox.org
[02:23] <Rallias> Is there a ubuntu equivelant to RHEL et al.'s kickstart system?
[02:23] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: there are no folders on /etc/init.d :(
[02:24] <TuRnIP> whats the equivelant to an api or runtime library in bash
[02:24] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: I also got this on reinstall 'No suitable module for running kernel found'
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> TuRnIP:  bash, python, perl, depends on what you want to do exactly
[02:24] <loadid_czech> ummm... no folders in init.d
[02:24] <loadid_czech> you have other problems
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I suspect you are mbr, just making sure don't want to live up to my nick. ;)
[02:24] <lgc> wilee-nilee: not much from fdisk -l
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> TuRnIP:  python may be the best tool for the job on ubuntu. but it depends on what you need the wizards to do exactly
[02:25] <loadid_czech> sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> lgc, sudo fdisk -l
[02:25] <TuRnIP> ah ok
[02:25] <Hexagonite> loadid_czech: does that include financial problems
[02:25] <lgc> Yes, that's what I did.
[02:25] <TuRnIP> bbl
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> lgc, l is a small L
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> l as in List. ;)
[02:26] <lgc> Yes, of course.
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> lgc, its a partition lister
[02:26] <lgc> What info do you want.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> poor fdisk - dosent support --list ;)
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> lgc, all of it
[02:26] <lgc> It reports four partitions.
[02:26] <loadid_czech> Hexagonite: i would try to download virtualbox .deb file and try again
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | lgc
[02:26] <Hexagonite> I'm actually downloading it right now
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> lgc, put all of it including the command in the pastebin and post the url/
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> or  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit if you have pastebinit installed
[02:29] <lgc> pastebin.com/y2VTTE1S, wilee-nilee
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Looks good no gpt you can just use the manual install from the windows disc
[02:30] <lgc> Dr_Willis: when I do that nothing happens. Is it supposed to return the URL?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> lgc, The W8.1 is supported free for just a short time is all.
[02:30] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK, thanks.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> allowed free that is
[02:31] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> enjoy
[02:31] <lgc> wilee-nilee: you bet! Thanks!
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  it works here
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, has to be installed I  believe.
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> should return a command not found/use the following....   if its not installed i imagine
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> should be part of the install, I mean we are beyond a cd anyway, "my rant"
[02:35] <majornick> I need to get familiar with the filesystems. my question is on 13.04 desktop. when i want to search for a certian file. I can use nautilus to navigate to my file system under "computer" but then once i am there i need a linux background to understand where to look for certain files. is there an easier way or do we need to learn all the file systems and where to look for certain files to use Ubuntu effectively?
[02:36] <loadid_czech> what files are you looking for majornick?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> majornick:  most of the  'bash' tutorials will cover file/path basics. thats where i would start
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> majornick:  in nautilus (the file manager) you can hit ctrl-l i think to show the path to where the stuff is you are looking at
[02:37] <reisio> majornick: what sort of files are you looking for?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> 'computer' here is just the /  of the filesystem
[02:37] <majornick> loadid_czech: Well today i was wondering to browse to lok for a possilbe Unity-greeter-wallpaper file to see if i could change the unity greter log in scren wall paper. i al ready removed the white dots from that screen so i was looking for that where those files might be
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> so a better name would be 'root filesystem'  instead of 'computer;
[02:37] <qin> majornick: in terminal: man fs #manual for file system in your box
[02:38] <reisio> majornick: configuration things like that tend to be in /etc/
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> majornick, Once you figure it out I believe it has to be a ping
[02:38] <reisio> majornick: if you have locate or mlocate, you can also use 'locate *foo*' to find things, and for more dynamic searching, you can use find / -iname '*foo*'
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> the default wallpaper used to be in /usr/share/backgrounds/
[02:38] <palos> Hello!
[02:38] <reisio> majornick: but most of the time what you should do is ask the package manager where things are
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> i never have figured out the reason for the 'dots' on the lightdm wallpaper
[02:39] <reisio> majornick: dpkg -l lists installed packages (dpkg -l | grep -i konversation)
[02:39] <reisio> majornick: dpkg -L konversation would list where that package's files are
[02:39] <majornick> Dr_Willis: see that is what i was talking about. you know that by heart. i ned to obviously get familiar with where file slike this reside in general
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> majornick:  just explore the filesystem
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> for the graphing aficionados to feel at home. ;)
[02:39] <palos> I'm trying to make Xubuntu 13.04 faster. Any advice?
[02:39] <reisio> palos: more ram
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> more power captain
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> palos:  moar ram.. :) or switch to lubuntu.
[02:40] <reisio> if there were really simple ways to make it much faster, I'm sure the Xubuntu guys would've already implemented them
[02:41] <majornick> reisio: so -l is list and -i is "information" about that package file sytem list of files?
[02:41] <palos> reisio: You're right...
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install moar-ram ;P
[02:41] <reisio> you can build Xfce without GNOME support, but that'd be a lot of work, and the moment you installed anything else it'd be blown away
[02:41] <reisio> majornick: no, for dpkg, -l is list installed packages, and -L foo is list files installed by package foo (run 'man dpkg')
[02:41] <palos> Dr_Willis: Thanks...
[02:41] <Sillvester> -i is ignore case
[02:41] <majornick> -L foo got it
[02:41] <reisio> majornick: | grep -i foo means pass the output to the 'grep' command, and case-insensitively (-i) search for the string 'foo'
[02:42] <reisio> probably isn't necessary for dpkg -l's output, but it frequently is necessary, and causes no harm :)
[02:42] <majornick> man i gotta get this CBT nugget comp tia training vids for Linux + and stop being so lazy :(
[02:43] <Sillvester> ps
[02:44] <uronu> Hello guys, I got a problem using vncveiwer remote desktop.
[02:44] <uronu> ssh: connect to host administrator port 22: No route to host
[02:44] <uronu> vncviewer: Tunneling command failed: /usr/bin/ssh -f -L 5599:localhost:5900 192.168.x.x@administrator sleep 20.
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> majornick, always be certifiable. ;)
[02:45] <majornick> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu and this whole experience has motivated me to learn these things as well as Net+ and Sec+. Ubuntu has changed my life recently for the better. If it wasnt for ther core group of sould here on this IRC this would not be happening to me. thanks guys .. really...
[02:47] <basix> hello, all. I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and would like to install jetty 8. I enabled the backports but jetty 8 doesn't seem to present there. How do I install jetty 8? It only seems to be available starting Quantal's repo( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jetty8 ). WOuld not like to upgrade since I want to stay with LTS.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> majornick, heh, I learned what I know while studying several other fields in college, just having to get my first computer and it happened to have ubuntu 6.0, mine is all armchair obsession.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> !info jetty
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> basix, I find this on google, not in the repos for 12.04 I believe. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=+jetty+8+12.04&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=PMIaUqWgAui8igKm04D4AQ
[02:51] <majornick> wilee-nilee: i am obsessed now too. i guess thats why the "open source" is so important. 20 years of this and i will still be learning something new every day. I am here for the long haul. good to meet you  guys and thanks for being so patient and helpful
[02:51] <cac> HELP!!! i accidentally my hard drive after installing ubuntu!!!
[02:51] <basix> wilee-nilee, yeah ok i'd rather use a ubuntu package
[02:51] <loadid_czech> i do that to my hard drive all the time
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> basix, Cool, not an area I'm familiar with.
[02:52] <reisio> cac: pardon?
[02:52] <basix> wilee-nilee, http://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2012/10/08/ubuntu-precise-install-youtube-dl-package-using-quantal-repo/
[02:52] <basix> that is the solution to be problem - i think
[02:52] <cac> reisio: I accidentally my hard drive
[02:52] <loadid_czech> just p-flash the d-ram and awol be okay
[02:52] <reisio> cac: did you? :)
[02:52] <reisio> cac: accidentally my?
[02:52] <cac> I DID NOW HURRY QUICK
[02:52] <reisio> hehehe
[02:52] <cac> im about to leave
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> basix, This for downloading youtube?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> don't let the door hot you on the way out
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> hit*
[02:53] <L3top> cac you have not stated a problem
[02:54] <majornick> i have been using ProTUbe on my iPhone for so long i dont even know. then i just ftp the files to me comp if i need to.
[02:54] <cac> L3top: i accidentally my hard drive
[02:54] <L3top> you accidentally (did what with) your hard drive
[02:54] <loadid_czech> if you're trying to save youtube files try the dlhelper add-on in firefox
[02:54] <L3top> cac: ^
[02:54] <reisio> L3top: he's just kidding around
[02:55] <loadid_czech> NOTHING!!! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
[02:55] <cac> L3top: i accidentally my hard drive after installing linux ubuntu
[02:55] <reisio> loadid_czech: ?
[02:55] <loadid_czech> what cac did to the hard drive
[02:55] <basix> wilee-nilee, it talks about using the quantal repo to install a package on precise. thats what i wanted to do - instead of youtube i will install the jetty8 package
[02:55] <loadid_czech> nothing
[02:55] <reisio> ah
[02:55] <basix> looks like it worked
[02:56] <cac> >.< you guys are terrible i have to leave
[02:56] <reisio> heh
[02:56] <loadid_czech> another satisfied customer... WTG team! thanks for working at comcast
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> basix, keep an eye on that repo is all for anything added you might not want or comment it out when done.
[02:57] <basix> yep
[02:57]  * wilee-nilee looks for my worlds smallest violin
[02:57] <alumno> wne
[02:58] <majornick> root acess on an iPhone is a must. its  just a fancy phone without it...:(
[02:58] <alumno> hlasssss
[02:58] <majornick> bbl #ubuntu thanks again
[03:08] <neurocache> exit
[03:13] <elementary-site2> Hi all, can anyone make partition recommendations for a full install on an 8gb pendrive?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, xubuntu or lubuntu is my recommendation
[03:15] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: I'm after partition sizing recommendations rather than variant recommendations. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
[03:15] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, stock ubuntu filesystem takes about 6 gigs ...
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, ext4 and a swap if you think you needs one
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> may be n room for a swap it seems
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> no*
[03:16] <digs> I moved a website from freebsd to ubuntu. I am having issues with some config due to a reference to /usr/home/foo... when ubunutu only has /home/foo.
[03:16] <digs> How can find those references on the command line?
[03:16] <digs> or should I just do a ln.?
[03:18] <digs> This is not going to be the only site... and I don't know if I want to spend hours and hours fixing those paths. However, ln seems like a bad cheat that isn't a good long term migration solution.
[03:18] <digs> comments?
[03:20] <MasterChef> hello all
[03:21] <reisio> 'lo MasterChef
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> MasterChef, How are rouge you
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> are
[03:21] <reisio> digs: ln might work
[03:21] <reisio> digs: and if it works you can use lsof and figure out what you might want to change to not have it
[03:21] <MasterChef> !sound | grep alxndr
[03:23] <MasterChef> it's 'Chief' but nick is too long :-<
[03:23] <reisio> 'lo MasterChief in perfect world
[03:23] <digs> reisio - thank you for the comment.
[03:23] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: (I'm a complete noob to Linux in general) so should I have a single partition of the full ~7.2gb or whatever free space is available? Do i need to specify anything for a swapfile or seperate the boot from the general filesystem etc?
[03:24] <Aethrs> Is there a way to disable/eradicate cram-md5 authenticate and enable plaintext authenticateion for uw-imap ?  I don't have access to plaintext passwords for the config file so I absolutely can not utilize cram-md5... yet it seems mandatory without a recompile?
[03:24] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, use the whole stick, follow the
[03:24] <MasterChef> man i slept for 4 hours after working on the 'phone'.... i was tweeking
[03:24] <MasterChef> haha
[03:25] <reisio> digs: also egrep -ilr '\/usr.*?home' / (will take ages)
[03:25] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, try without swap for now.  If it runs superslow, you might consider adding swap on, but it IS a stick so ...
[03:28] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: ok cool. Do I need to set a partition for /boot?
[03:28] <rmichnik> Elem
[03:29] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, nope.  install process will handle it for your
[03:29] <cfhowlett> *you*
[03:29] <reisio> what'd you settle on, one big partition?
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, What is the OS on the computer?
[03:30] <elementary-site2> cfhowlett: Ok, thanks
[03:30] <elementary-site2> reisio: following cfhowlett's advise, yes
[03:30] <cfhowlett> elementary-site2, best of luck
[03:30] <reisio> elementary-site2: what fs? :)
[03:31] <Sach> did a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04. Struggling to install a driver for wireless. My wireless hardware is BCM 4311.
[03:31] <reisio> elementary-site2: mkfs.ext4 -O ^has_journal might give you a performance boost (over plain ext4)
[03:31] <elementary-site2> wilee-nilee: I have Windows 7 on this laptop. However I'm currently running a Live CD of Elementary and about to make a full install onto the pendrive
[03:32] <elementary-site2> reisio:  8GB
[03:32] <MasterChef> reisio, you are very kind :/
[03:32] <elementary-site2> 8gb*
[03:32] <reisio> fs type I meant :)
[03:32] <reisio> MasterChef: :)
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Sach, get a hardline connection, run your additional drivers script and it should automagically install
[03:33] <elementary-site2> reisio: my bad. ext4.
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, Cool,  make sure you have a windows install or recovery disc, onec in a graet while people get the grub bootloader put into the MBR of the computer.
[03:33] <reisio> elementary-site2: mkfs.ext4 -O ^has_journal might give you a performance boost (over plain ext4)
[03:33] <Sach> cfhowlett: sorry, can you break that down for me please?  what is a hardline connection? And how do I run my additional drivers script?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> Sach, wired connection?  not wifi.  then see settings>additional drivers
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, Will not happen with a manul install and grub pointed correctly, but you want to be prepared is all.
[03:34] <xmetal> hunting down my issue on my distro's forums
[03:34] <xmetal> brb
[03:35] <Sach> cfhowlett: additional drivers is not listed under settings.  However, I remember that it used to be there in previous ubuntu versions...
[03:36] <elementary-site2> reisio: ill check it out, thanks!
[03:36] <elementary-site2> wilee-nilee: i
[03:37] <elementary-site2> *i'm hoping I get it right :p
[03:37] <reisio> you better get it right, or the world will end
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> likely you will, just having the right tools makes life easier
[03:38]  * wilee-nilee ducks and covers
[03:38] <cfhowlett> Sach, sorry.  I'm on xubuntu so my setup is different.  but if you plug your computer into your wifi router, you'll get a hardline connection.  then run the additional drivers utility
[03:39] <Sach> ok, I'm on a hardline connection right now.  But how to I run the additional drivers utility?
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> Sach, Have you run a update?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Sach, as I said, I don't run ubuntu, so I can't specifically guide you to the right place.  perhaps use dash to search for "additional drivers"?
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> Sach, You can get to it via the software center-edit
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> top oh the mornin
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> :p
[03:41] <revolver14> I think the unity ui makes things more complex, personally.
[03:41] <reisio> revolver14: what do you think impersonally?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> lol
[03:41] <elementary-site2> is the bootloader installed on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 (ie the partition)?
[03:41] <revolver14> Try LXDE.
[03:42] <Sach> wilee-nilee: I am in 'Additional Drivers', but do not see my wireless hardware (BCM 4311) listed.  Why might this be?
[03:42] <reisio> elementary-site2: for keeping Windows on the hard disk?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, sdx or A be sure that is the mbr of the usb run sudo fdisk -l to check
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | Sach
[03:42] <reisio> elementary-site2: you'll probably want to put the boot loader on the usb device, and use your bios boot menu to boot to it, or Windows' boot menu
[03:44] <elementary-site2> Sorry, it's not sda. It's sdc. I think I gave everybody a heart attack (including myself) when i read over that, haha
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, I was ready to hde under my oak desk. ;)
[03:44] <reisio> hahahah
[03:44] <reisio> did you use hde on purpose? 'cause that's awesome
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> just me and my tinfoil fez
[03:45] <reisio> as in /dev/hda, /dev/hdb, … /dev/hde
[03:45] <reisio> puntastic
[03:46] <revolver14> Sach, you'd better download it from the manufacturer's website.
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> the cats outside everyman for themselves. ;)
[03:46] <elementary-site2> So, should the bootloader be in /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> elementary-site2, sdc
[03:46] <reisio> elementary-site2: of sdc is the right device :)
[03:46] <reisio> s/of/if
[03:46] <reisio> sofif
[03:47] <dyu> what's the advantage of using the chris-lea ppa?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !ppa|dyu,
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> free dinks
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> drinks*
[03:47] <reisio> elementary-site2: it's normal for the boot loader to be installed to the beginning of a device and not a partition, but when you're dual booting with a _single_ drive (as opposed to two or more, as you are), you sometimes want to install it to a partition instead
[03:47] <dyu> i'm in a new project and it seems to use it a lot
[03:48] <reisio> dyu: sure chris lea isn't a coworker?
[03:49] <dyu> pretty sure he isn't ;-) seems to be a somewhat popular ppa
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> any way i could see syslog errors in a unity indicator somehow?
[03:49] <reisio> seems to have a lot of web-related stuff in it
[03:50] <reisio> I'm guessing someone had some reason
[03:50] <reisio> like some support in some app that they wanted was missing
[03:50] <reisio> probably for something new and fancy
[03:50] <elementary-site2> reisio: so it should be placed in the partition? the main issue that has me concerned is that i only have the single partition with all of the available storage space dedicated to it, so i'm not exactly sure where it'd go if i was to select /sdc
[03:50] <reisio> elementary-site2: the device, sdX not sdX#
[03:50] <reisio> elementary-site2: don't worry about that, your partition application left space
[03:51] <reisio> if you installed to a partition it wouldn't actually be put into the filesystem of that partition, either
[03:51] <reisio> but right before the partition itself
[03:53] <MasterChef> One american, one french and one bulgarian were riding in a train in Indonesia. As they were talkin',
[03:53] <MasterChef> a fine lady walks in. So, the bulgarian, being the gentleman he is offered her a seat next to him. But she
[03:53] <MasterChef> chose to sit between the French and The American. They involved her in the conversation and she was moved
[03:53] <MasterChef> A LOT by the kind words by the gentlemen around them. So, all of a sudden, she rips one out loud. The
[03:53] <MasterChef> American being the gentleman he is said: 'scuse me! They kept talking without paing much attention to
[03:53] <FloodBot1> MasterChef: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <MasterChef> what just happend. I minute later , the lady rips one out loud again. The French, being the gentleman he is
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !ot|MasterChef,
[03:54] <MasterChef> pardon me
[03:54] <MasterChef> i couldn't hold it
[03:57] <Sach> wilee-nilee: I followed the instructions that you pointed me to, but I still don't have wireless connectivity :(
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> Sach, that is the general wiki we show I thought the other nick responding pfifo would know more I'm not up on broadcom.
[04:00] <dyu> reisio: yeah, i'm under the impression that it's for the shiny. thanks! :D
[04:00] <xmetal> hmm never considered this method  before but looking at wubi for older laptop i have
[04:02] <user_> Greetings, anyone here know if there is a list of phased updates that failed, and were cancelled?
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> Sach, here is more info that might be relevant. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=BCM+4311
[04:03] <xmetal> wonder if that world work with my other distro
[04:04] <exidos> !guidelines
[04:04] <exidos> thx ubottu
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> Sach, THis looks to be the most relevant. http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> user_, Never seen such a list myself, is there a problem?
[04:12] <Sach_> Does anyone here have experience with installing the BCM4311 wireless driver?
[04:12] <cfhowlett> Sach_, I've done it..
[04:13] <Sach_> cfhowlett: I've been trying to hours now, no luck  :(
[04:13] <cfhowlett> Sach_, I used the No Internet Connection method and had it up and running after 2 minutes of terminal commands.
[04:13] <cfhowlett> Sach_, ubuntu version?
[04:13] <Sach_> cfhoelett: I just upgraded to 13.04
[04:14] <Sach_> cfhowlett: I've tried the no internet connection method too, but no luck.
[04:14] <cfhowlett> Sach_, ow.  not cool.
[04:15] <Sach_> cfhowlett: I've also visited 'Additional Drivers' and Broadcom is not even listed there...
[04:15] <Sach_> cfhowlett: but it was under 12.03 from whcih I upgraded!
[04:15] <cfhowlett> Sach_, that means ubuntu didn't detect it right.  Final option: go to broadcom, download the driver and compile it yourself
[04:16] <Ubnoobtu> How do I change rooms in this IRC?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, /join #channel
[04:16] <Ubnoobtu> yo, Wilee, What's up
[04:16] <Sach_> cfhowlett: wow.  seems like I might have to, but I'm not very good with that stuff..
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> just my blood pressure. ;)
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> heh not really
[04:17] <cfhowlett> Sach_, no better way or time to learn.  Pain in the neck, but ... you'll officially become an ubuntu guru!
[04:18] <user_> wilee-nilee, Myself and others are noticing problems since the phased-upgrades, see here for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1209442
[04:18] <Sach_> cfhowlett: oh dear.  I don't even know how to install a tar.gz file  :s
[04:18] <Ubnoobtu> Okay, does anyone know what the best channel to go to would be to learn more about being anonymous and secure.
[04:18] <cfhowlett> Sach_, there is a "ReadMe" with the download
[04:19] <cfhowlett> Sach_, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[04:20] <Sach_> cfhowlett: actually, there's no readme.  But there is a "Makefile (text/x-makefile)"
[04:20] <cfhowlett> Sach_, I beg to differ   http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[04:21] <Sach_> cfhowlett: strange, I don't see that in my download.
[04:21] <cfhowlett> Sach_, you have to get the driver and the README.txt.  It's on the download page.
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> user_, have you seen this, we have not seen this in general on this channel. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[04:23] <Sach_> cfhowlett: thanks, I'll try my luck  ;-)
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> user_, You using any PPA's?
[04:24] <DotCom123> Hello there. I have some problem in my CD ROM. While reading its contents it often shuts down automatically after about 15-20 minutes. Now i have downloaded ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS ISO and successfully wrote it on DVD on another computer. Now my question is that does ubunut 12.04.3 supports RAM boot, in which initially all the contents of DVD are copied on to RAM and then installation can begin...
[04:24] <DotCom123> ...from RAM?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> DotCom123, why not use USB?
[04:24] <DotCom123> cfhowlett: My PC don't supports it.
[04:24] <DotCom123> It's old :/
[04:25] <DotCom123> I have seen this option of RAM booting in Gparted and Backtrack.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> DotCom123, if it's that old, you might be better off with xubuntu/lubuntu which will fit on a CD so ... no dvd
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> user_, I also notice mention of the closed source drivers in the bug report so we have some possible variables to contend with, so details will go a long way.
[04:26] <MasterChef> I have seen the same stuff in SUSE and Slackware, but this is different man, all 'bout the QT, now
[04:27] <MasterChef> run lspci
[04:27] <DotCom123> cfhowlett: That is my main problem. My CD/DVD player don't last longer than 15-20 minutes. Are you sure that the full installation of xubuntu/lubuntu completes within this time limit?
[04:27] <MasterChef> lsusb
[04:27] <MasterChef> in my case was the RALink making problems
[04:27] <cfhowlett> DotCom123, less to install so ... yeah?
[04:28] <MasterChef> chipset
[04:28] <MasterChef> change the source
[04:28] <MasterChef> make
[04:28] <MasterChef> compile
[04:28] <MasterChef> reboot
[04:28] <DotCom123> ok
[04:28] <MasterChef> should get some lights on
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> user_, Whoa I would not touch that phased upgrades with a 100 ft pole, I had not even known they were doing that.
[04:28] <xmetal> well there goes my wubi idea
[04:29] <xmetal> lol
[04:29] <MasterChef> lol, QoS is kinda hard to get working uh?
[04:29]  * cfhowlett ... wishes wubi would just die already.
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> I gotta guy thats will takes care of that a cleanup man
[04:30] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee, What should I do to tighten up my security ?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, not sure not an area I have really worried about.
[04:31] <MasterChef> run a md5 on the matrix set array in the healthy disk space
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> !security
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, ^^^^^^^^
[04:32] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee, thanks man. Does this help with virus?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !virus|Ubnoobtu,
[04:34] <Ubnoobtu> how does Ubuntu connect to the internet differently than windows?
[04:34] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: it doesn't
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Ubnoobtu, ??? what are you talking about?
[04:35] <MasterChef> socially acceptable rhetoric, man
[04:35] <Ubnoobtu> aeon-ltd, cfhowlett, I'm just thinking how does linux avoid getting viruses, beside being coded differently. Is there something more?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> Ubnoobtu, it's different, yes.
[04:37] <Ubnoobtu> (I;m trying to observe and learn, but I want to kick my own ass, and dig for knowlegde, where do I begin????
[04:38] <user_> wilee-nilee, Yeah I tried resetting unity, reinstalling unity, even gnome and fluxbox were having weird graphics glitches. I wonder if there is any list of which phased updates were cancelled, not installed for all users?
[04:38] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: being a smaller target, default separation of users and superusers on most distros, wide variation of software (i.e. too many distros are different),
 1.) The reason for GNU/Linux (and BSD) systems being FAR less susceptible (but not IMMUNE) to malware has been hotly disputed for some time
[04:39] <MasterChef> cool
[04:40]  * Ubnoobtu nods slowly.
[04:41] <Ubnoobtu> I'm learning about GNU now, atleast the history.
[04:41] <Ubnoobtu> I want to start learning how to navigate linux.
[04:41] <urandom_> aeon-ltd: " default separation of users and superusers on most distros": how much, if at all, that actually accounts is subject to dispute
[04:42] <xmetal> ah heck i am throwing in the towel for no for getting linux on that old laptop
[04:43] <MasterChef> what's wrong with the wubi, again?
[04:43] <MasterChef> hahah
[04:43] <cfhowlett> MasterChef, wubi is for testing.  It is NOT a long-term installation solution.
[04:43] <aeon-ltd> urandom_: yeah, i suppose it only seems that it's effective at all in comparison to win is because a large majority of xp users defaulted to one admin account only and vista users turned of uac
[04:43] <MasterChef> hmm
[04:44] <urandom_> ubottu: "Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux"
[04:44] <aeon-ltd> *off
[04:44] <urandom_> overstatement
[04:45] <urandom_> until now, there have been almost-to-none viruses in the wild but that could change
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> user_, here is the developers blog. http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=127 Are you certain that this type of upgrade is at fault here, these are stable releases that would run normally to everyone. here is more info. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[04:45] <MasterChef> wubi I beg to differ
[04:45] <urandom_> aeon-ltd: yes, that's just what I was thinking
[04:46] <Ubnoobtu> I want to learn how to be anonymous on the internet. my concerns with the NSA and others has piqued my interest in learning the dynamics of this world and community.
[04:46] <urandom_> Ubnoobtu: https://torproject.org https://tails.boum.org
[04:46] <Ubnoobtu> I heard the NSa took it down
[04:47] <MasterChef> what does urandom, do anyway?
[04:47] <urandom_> "urandom" is pseudo-random data stream
[04:47] <MasterChef> aren't they all :/
[04:48] <MasterChef> thx
[04:48] <urandom_> I use it to overwrite a drive or volume that I intend to encrypt
[04:48] <urandom_> /dev/urandom
[04:49] <urandom_> /dev/zero is MUCH faster and should be just as effective for wiping data but when you intend to encrypt,
[04:49] <Ubnoobtu> uh, this is something I'm assumed, but do I download the x64 bit, or the regular gnu/linux? I'm really a scrub here.
[04:49] <urandom_> it is recommened to use /dev/urandom
[04:49] <urandom_> Ubnoobtu: depends on your HW
[04:50]  * Ubnoobtu listens
[04:50] <urandom_> in order to use x64, your CPU has to support 64-bit
[04:50] <urandom_> I assume your computer came with Windows?
[04:51] <MasterChef> windows can see Linux machines?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> MasterChef: samba?
[04:52] <MasterChef> java
[04:52] <urandom_> I meant simply that if a given computer came with, for example, Windows 7, 64-bit, then you would know that you can run the x64 version of Ubuntu on it
[04:53] <Ubnoobtu> vista?
[04:53] <Ubnoobtu> is that x32
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> x86
[04:53] <Ubnoobtu> this is why im confused
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> +x64
[04:53] <urandom_> Didn't Vista come in both 32 as well as 64-bit?
 i need some help on identifiyng a game with bandits
[04:54] <Ubnoobtu> why is it so complicated
[04:54] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: what os are you running now?
[04:54] <Ubnoobtu> 12.4 LTS
[04:54] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: or better yet what cpu do you have and how much ram have you got?
[04:54] <Ubnoobtu> how can I find out?
[04:55] <urandom_> a few ways...
[04:55] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:55] <MasterChef> they had masks and clubs man, remember that shit, lol
[04:56] <IdleOne> !language
[04:56] <user_> wilee-nillee, is this the list I'm looking for? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
[04:56] <urandom_> lotuspsychje: Samba is a program for sharing files between Windows and Linux systems
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> urandom_: i know that
[04:56] <MasterChef> !language
[04:56] <elementary-site2> Ok. Installed. Now to reboot the computer and see if I've installed to USB drive correctly, or if I've overwritten my HDD to which no backups exist :-)
[04:57] <urandom_> @ ubottu: yes, we want to encourage youth to be geeky
[04:57] <Ubnoobtu> Can I post this wall of text here?
[04:57] <urandom_> lotuspsychje: Sorry, I thought you were asking what Samba is
[04:57] <MasterChef> first of, get the drive out dude
[04:58] <kabamaro> Click There -> #pwpwq
[04:58] <kabamaro> Type: /join #pwpwq
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: use pastebin
[04:59] <MasterChef> !ubuntu
[04:59] <urandom_> " Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/"
[05:00] <MasterChef> !lubuntu
[05:00] <IdleOne> !msgthebot > MasterChef
[05:00] <MasterChef> !kubuntu
[05:00] <MasterChef> what's ap
[05:01] <urandom_> MasterChef: Did someone ask about the difference b/w the *buntus?
[05:01] <IdleOne> MasterChef: cut it out please
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> user_, I just gave you the info for more info such as there is a two way communications on the errors and such, I'm not sure you are not assuming that this sis the problem, rather than a problem that would be there otherwise.
[05:01] <Ubnoobtu> http://pastebin.com/fytNfyK9
[05:02] <Jaberwocky> Hi, got a problem
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> user_, The only difference is this phase, these are stable updates that would be released to everyone normally, from what I read.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, spill it.
[05:03] <Jaberwocky> can't login in 13.04, makes a loop
[05:03] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: your cpu, http://ark.intel.com/products/37251/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T4200-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB yes it is under intel64
[05:03] <Jaberwocky> in the main user
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, Unity? any info leading to this?
[05:03] <MasterChef> when i see the sea once more... will the sea have seen or not seen me
[05:04] <kelvinella> bekks, hello are you there?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, Have you tried a tty login then startx
[05:04] <kelvinella> bekks, my computer is slow again even i have close firefox
[05:04] <Jaberwocky> yes, first i had a lot ofo problems with unity, then i'd to reinstall and now can't log in
[05:04] <Ubnoobtu> Whooo
[05:04] <urandom_> Ubnoobtu's CPU looks like 320bit, doesn't it?
[05:04] <Ubnoobtu> Thanks aeon-ltd
[05:04] <urandom_> 32-bit, that is
[05:04] <Jaberwocky> startx?
[05:04] <Jaberwocky> from tty?
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, reinstalled what, use nicks they can be tab competed
[05:05] <urandom_> oh, sorry, missed aeon'
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Jaberwocky, tty is a cli gotten to with ctrl-alt f1 then login and run startx
[05:05] <aeon-ltd> urandom_: the link i posted, it's marked yes next to intel64
[05:06] <Ubnoobtu> Are you sure now, educate me furter
[05:06] <Ubnoobtu> oh i missed it too
[05:07] <Ubnoobtu> i want learn more to protect knowledge and free learning
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> Ubnoobtu: learn about what?
[05:08] <MasterChef> i kind of have a grudge with the whole ARM thing goig on
[05:08] <urandom_> aeon-ltd: sorry, I had missed your latest post, and from Ubnoobtu's paste, couldn
[05:08] <urandom_> couldn't figure it out (sorry, hit enter by mistake there)
[05:09] <Ubnoobtu> I want to use the internet to educate myself, to download ebooks, docs, and
[05:09] <urandom_> BTW, isn't there a command or even a right-click on some icon, that gives much shorter output and tells whether a CPU is 32 or 64 bit?
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> urandom_: heh probably
[05:10] <ui_> command is uname -p
[05:11] <trindaz> I can run scripts by using ". myscript.sh"
[05:11] <trindaz> but if i type "sudo . myscript.sh"
[05:11] <trindaz> I get "command not found ."
[05:11] <trindaz> why is that?
[05:11] <ui_> trindaz: sudo ./myscript.sh
[05:12] <ui_> . is a builtin, that is it's not a copmmand, it's parsed specially by the shell
[05:12] <MasterChef> use: sh name.sh
[05:12] <ui_> and therefore cannot be used with sudo
[05:12] <trindaz> ui_ sudo ./myscript.sh fails with same error message
[05:13] <ui_> Also, . myscript.sh will work if myscript.sh was written for the same shell you're using now
[05:13] <trindaz> why would it disappear just because i'm using sudo
[05:13] <trindaz> i must not understand what sudo does
[05:13] <ui_> trindaz: do not put a space after the .
[05:13] <trindaz> i thought it was identical to logging in as root and running something
[05:13] <trindaz> i didn't put a space after it
[05:13] <trindaz> copy pasted straight from my terminal: sudo ./sync_production_projects.sh
[05:14] <MasterChef> Intel Corporation (INTC) $22.44
[05:14] <ui_> chmod +x ./myscript.sh
[05:14] <trindaz> so if . is not in .bashrc, where is it defined? how is it different to using sh?
[05:15] <MasterChef> ignore
[05:15] <trindaz> ha ui_ chmod did the trick
[05:15] <bhch> what is meaning of Cortex in ARM Processes ?
[05:15] <trindaz> thanks
[05:16] <MasterChef> yo GDP of the US is 12 trill
[05:16] <magdur> guys do you know any linux channel speaking turkish
[05:16] <ui_> trindaz: you're running a shell at this very moment. sh myscript will launch /bin/sh passding the string "myscript" as an argument, and sh will run the script. The dot will be parsed directly by your shell (it's not looked into the $PATH) and will load all the function definitions in your current shell
[05:17] <ui_> Now, if myscript was written for the language of your current shell, OR you want to directly use in the shell the function defined in the script, the dot should be fine.
[05:17] <ui_> Otherwise, if your script was written in the language of another shell, avoid the dot and just do ./myscript or sudo ./myscript
[05:17] <ui_> You can check by looking at the first line (head myscript)
[05:17] <urandom_> ui_: Re: "uname -p": Interesting, in both Tails as well as Kanotix (both Debian-based) I get "unknown". Unfortunately, I cannot try in a *buntu atm
[05:17] <trindaz> well i wrote it myself
[05:17] <ui_> which is called "hashbang"
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> !turkish | magdur
[05:18] <trindaz> thanks ui_
[05:18] <ui_> urandom_: try uname -a
[05:18] <chris310> Hello
[05:18] <urandom_> but uname -r does report the kernel version
[05:19] <vtux> Hello, can someone provide insight into apache - can't find a resolution on google. After last night update, it stopped loading all conf.d files
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> hey guys, i am trying to edit the repo's and change one i added to a different distribution and it doesn't seem to want to do it
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> how do i do it through a text editor instead of the gui software sources
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> anyone
[05:21] <ui_> thetinyjesus: edit /etc/apt/sources.list. But what are you trying to do? what's "the real problem"?
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> ui_, i am trying to add ps3 media server repo to saucy but it needs to be backported to raring
[05:22] <Yaberwocky> Hello, Just tried startx from tty, but get stucked  loading extension GLX
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> ui_, the repo i added through software sources isn't listed in that sources file
[05:22] <X-User> !adblock
[05:23] <X-User> why i even typed that? :O
[05:23] <user_> wilee-nilee, I have both of the packages mentioned on that page http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html Is that bad?
[05:23] <Yaberwocky> My situation is that after a clean reinstallation of 13.04, couldn't login with main user
[05:24] <Yaberwocky> just from guest
[05:24] <bansi> how to boot ubuntu 12.04 in text mode?
[05:24] <urandom_> thetinyjesus: I would suggest that nick could be offensive to many people
[05:25] <thetinyjesus> urandom_, i could careless about peoples religion i use this nick from everything from my icloud email to twitter
[05:25] <urandom_> thetinyjesus: According to Ubuntu Code of Conduct...shouldn't user names that are likely to offend be avoided?
[05:25] <trindaz> how do I debug my cron script? I'm using` /home/app/myscript.sh  2>&1 > /mnt/logs/log.log` but the log file doesn't get created, even though I can see in syslog that the job was definitely run
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> Using TTY can log the user
[05:26] <thetinyjesus> urandom_, then stop being so sensitive
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> but not in the graphic mode
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> and need to restore my backups
[05:26] <Yaberwocky> guest have no permission for nothing
[05:27] <ui_> trindaz: do ''/home/app/myscript.sh  > /mnt/logs/log.log 2>&1 '' because redirection is performed in textual order
[05:28] <trindaz> with the double quotes?
[05:28] <Nothing_Much> How do you make an ".sh" file execute without using the terminal? IE, double click?
[05:28] <ui_> no do not mind the double quotes
[05:28] <ui_> I mean the redirection
[05:29] <ui_> 2>&1 > log.log will first redirect stderr to stdout, which is the terminal, then redirect stdout to the logfile
[05:29] <qin> Nothing_Much: ...right click, properities. or simply: chmod +x file.sh
[05:29] <Nothing_Much> No I mean
[05:29] <Nothing_Much> It opens with gedit
[05:29] <ui_> if you want to redirect both, you first red. stdout to the file, then red. stderr to stdout which is the file
[05:29] <Nothing_Much> And I want to completely avoid the terminal at all costs
[05:29] <ui_> trindaz: I assumed that you want to redirect both to file, but if I was wrong, please ignore me
[05:30] <urandom_> aeon-limited and Ubnoobtu: ui_ told me about command "lscpu", much shorter, clearer output for seeing whether 32- or 64-bit
[05:30] <trindaz> "both"? I don't really get what the "1" and "2" mean, but it
[05:30] <Nothing_Much> I'm trying to get me and my mother completely comfortable with Linux, I don't mind the occasional terminal commands, but come on.. there has to be a way to completely disregard the "open with gedit" crap
[05:30] <trindaz> s something related to stdout, stderr right?
[05:30] <qin> feel evil in such moments, your "mime" is wrong, right click in select open with, Nothing_Much
[05:31] <trindaz> i just want to see why my script is not working
[05:31] <ui_> 1 is standard output, 2 is standard error output
[05:31] <Nothing_Much> It only wants to open with libreoffice and gedit
[05:31] <Nothing_Much> How do I fix the mime then?
[05:31] <qin> Nothing_Much: make it executable?
[05:32] <ui_> Nothing_Much: does the script begin with this line? #! /bin/bash
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> No no, it's already executable
[05:32] <ui_> Nothing_Much: also called hashbang or sheban
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> Yes
[05:32] <ui_> shebang*
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> It has that in the script
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> But I can't install it
[05:32] <magdur> guys what is the differrent about linux discdistributions? why there is not  just a  distribution ?
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> I want to COMPLETELY AVOID the use of a terminal
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> At all costs
[05:32] <ui_> Nothing_Much: is it the very first line?
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> Isn't there a gui application that fixes these "mimes" you were talking about?
[05:32] <Nothing_Much> #!/bin/sh
[05:33] <urandom_> magdur: You might as well ask , "What is different about cars? Why is there not just one model of car?"
[05:33] <trindaz> won't seem to work - i've tried the same command with various delimiters (`, '', none) and still no file containing the output of my script when run with cron
[05:34] <chris310> How can I change my desktop Environment?
[05:34] <ui_> trindaz: does the script print the error messages if you run it manually in terminal?
[05:34] <DarkAlice> what can I do?
[05:34] <DarkAlice> help please
 but dor instance necesaary other packets additable ubuntu  isnt it ?
[05:35] <xmetal> was that english?
[05:35] <xmetal> :|
[05:35] <chris310> DarkAlice, Do with what?
[05:35] <trindaz> if i run as user 'ubuntu' it works great. If I run as 'sudo' I get errors related to virtualenvwrapper not working, which I expected, however I wanted to confirm that I get those same errors when run with cron (to check that it's a user issue that's causing it to not work when run with cron, as opposed to some other error that I'm not aware of yet)
[05:35] <urandom_> magdur: Sorry, I don't understand what you asked
[05:35] <acidrain> what is the best ftp program for ubuntu?
[05:35] <Nothing_Much> So how do I fix the mime type or something?
[05:35] <acidrain> i need one that is easily configurable and one that preferably uses virtual users so i dont have to set the user up on my box
[05:36] <xmetal> dont know if ifs the "best" though i'd go with what i use on Windows too ... Fizizilla
[05:36] <xmetal> oops
[05:36] <qin> Nothing_Much: my appologies, that's wired but apprently you cannot click scripts.
[05:36] <xmetal> i typo'ed that
[05:36] <DarkAlice> chris, Ive just reinstalled 13.04, but it doesn't allow me login with main user,
[05:36] <magdur>  <urandom_> i say that, when you need different  package  you can add isnt it ?
[05:36] <xmetal> FileZilla
[05:36] <Nothing_Much> qin, What? I was able to successfully do so some time ago..
[05:36] <AcidRain2012> xmetal, so you are suggesting the filezilla ftp server for linux and it supports virtual users?
[05:36] <trindaz> tempted to try installing cellery just to get this scheduled job working, feels like cheating though
[05:36] <Nothing_Much> I was using the teamspeak .sh thing
[05:36] <Nothing_Much> It worked flawlessly
[05:37] <urandom_> magdur: Yes, there are many different packages that one has the option of adding to Ubuntu
[05:37] <Nothing_Much> If you're saying that it's impossible, then that's ludicrous because this just HAS to cater to users who don't want to use the terminal at all..
[05:37] <DarkAlice> It just loops to first screeen
[05:37] <tabbytabtab> hey
[05:37] <AcidRain2012> The current FZ Server code cannot be ported to *NIX. Too much Windows dependencies in there. To make it multi-platform, a complete rewrite is required (as already happened with the client). Unfortunately, the development focus is almost entirely on the client right now.
[05:37] <urandom_> but different distros still offer, in many cases at least, considerably different experiences
[05:37] <AcidRain2012> so filezilla is out of the picture
[05:37] <AcidRain2012> any other ideas?
[05:38] <Flynn__> I'm really trying to get my parents hooked on Ubuntu.  I'm using 12.04 64 bit on a hp all in one.  But, they love faremville two. and the animation is slow in firefox chromium and chrome.  Any suggestions?  (it works fine on the same computer in Win,. 7
[05:38] <tabbytabtab> how do you install a bcw4311 wlan driver?
 for example if you need a package from linux mint or backtrack you can add to ubuntu isnt it ?
[05:38] <trindaz> not even this works
[05:38] <trindaz> */1 * * * * ''echo 'hello' > /mnt/logs/log.log  2>&1''
[05:38] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: what tech does it use?
[05:39] <Flynn__> flash
[05:39] <trindaz> and yet /mnt/logs definitely exists
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> Flynn__: install latest graphics drivers, update flash or whatever plugin farmville runs on, then if the problem persists ask here again
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> !broadcom | tabbytabtab
[05:39] <chris310> Ok, I want to get rid of all the effects on Ubuntu, just get a simple desktop and taskbar, I tried going to log in screen, but i do not have any options, any suggestions?
[05:39] <trindaz> and syslog has Aug 26 01:38:01 ip-10-170-70-131 CRON[20694]: (ubuntu) CMD (''echo 'hello' > /mnt/logs/log.log  2>&1'')
[05:39] <Flynn__> I thought flash was preinstalled in chrome.
[05:39] <chris310> Also, I am running Ubuntu 13.04
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> Flynn__: then do the first part
[05:40] <Flynn__> I tried both additional drivers for the graphics card to no avail.
[05:40] <urandom_> magdur: I would think /most/ pkges in Mint and BackTrack (now KaliLinux, BTW) would be available for Ubuntu but I'm not sure that /all/ are
[05:40] <aeon-ltd> chris310: use a different DE, unity depends on the effects. i don't think unity 2d exists anymore
[05:40] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: you can check the plugins at chrome://plugins/ in chrome
[05:40] <urandom_> magdur: someone more knowledgable could tel you for sure
[05:41] <ChogyDan> chris310: I just switched to xubuntu in order to get rid of desktop effects
[05:41] <qin> Nothing_Much: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138908/how-to-execute-a-script-just-by-double-clicking-like-exe-files-in-windows
[05:41] <tabbytabtab> what driver do i download
[05:41] <AcidRain2012> you know its hard to find good documentation on setting up virtual users with their own home folders and applying permissions without gui
[05:42] <chris310> Is there an easy way of switching to that? or do i have to start a fresh install?
[05:42] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, youtube and other games work fine.  Wouldn't the pluggin have to be right for that?
[05:43] <ui_> chris310: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <chris310> ui_, Thank you :)
[05:45] <DarkAlice> How can i fix the login loop?
[05:45] <DarkAlice> or at least enter the gui with main user?
[05:45] <Flynn__> shouldn't there be a folder for chrome under home?
[05:46] <ui_> DarkAlice: to restore your backups, you could boot into a live cd
[05:47] <Nothing_Much> I figured it out! Yay!
[05:47] <DarkAlice> and? save'em in which folder?
[05:47] <tabbytabtab> i am computer stupid and dont know how to install this driver. can someone help? please?
[05:48] <DarkAlice> I really want to fix this login loop
[05:48] <DarkAlice> i tried login from TTY and run startx
[05:48] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: look under .config and .cache for the chrome folders, afaik
[05:49] <DarkAlice> but it stucked loading extension GLX
[05:49] <tabbytabtab> can i have help?
[05:49] <DarkAlice> another Idea?
[05:49] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: can you ask your full question, all on one line?
[05:49] <Jacta___> Does anyone have any experience with vmware player and ubuntu server and shared folders?
[05:50] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: which driver?
[05:50] <tabbytabtab> how do you install a bcw4311 wlan driver? i dont understand the instructions
[05:51] <DarkAlice> Yes of course ChogyDan:. I can't login with main user, it loops to login window. User and password are correct, but it loops. Any idea how fix this using TTY or loged in guest?
[05:52] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: do you see any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:52] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: the bcw4311 one
[05:53] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: which directions are you following?  Which step is confusing?
[05:53] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: and what version of ubuntu?
[05:53] <DarkAlice> mmm how can I acces that report?
[05:53] <Flynn__> I still don't get how to check version in chrome.
[05:53] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: im using the sta instructions and i dont even get step 1
[05:54] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:54] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: 13.04
[05:54] <DarkAlice> chogydan ok
[05:55] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: do you have internet access? if so, System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers
[05:55] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: actually, that might be wrong
[05:56] <v1c3> Hi, where are the files? I need to change one and have no clue where to search
[05:56] <v1c3> sorry,  where are the UPSTART files stored?
[05:57] <DarkAlice> sorry, ChogyDan it gives me a lot of lines,  not sure what I'm looking for
[05:57] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: I dont have internet because i would have to unplug my desktops internet cord
[05:58] <ChogyDan> v1c3: /etc/init/
[05:58] <Flynn__> So, how do I upgrade flash in Ubuntu 12.04
[05:58] <v1c3> ChogyDan: Thanks! Only looked at /etc/init.d/ ^^
[05:59] <ChogyDan> v1c3: I think that's where the old style files live, take care  :)
[05:59] <v1c3> ChogyDan: where is defined which user starts a service?
[05:59] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: if you check about:plugins, and you have 11.8, I think you are good
[06:00] <Flynn__> I have 11.8
[06:00] <ChogyDan> v1c3: in the file, right?
[06:00] <sepero> Flynn__: the package is flashplugin-installer
[06:00] <DarkAlice> in guest profile all works but the main user loops at the beginning
[06:00] <Flynn__> flashpluggin-installer is installed.
[06:00] <ChogyDan> DarkAlice: if you pastebin it, I could take a look.  But it is weird that your guest works ok
[06:01] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: any other help you can give to me?
[06:01] <v1c3> ChogyDan: aaaaah now I see it
[06:01] <ChogyDan> v1c3: I only have a little experience, I just know it is event driven.  Don't know about the user part
[06:02] <Flynn__> sepero, flashplugin-installer is installed.
[06:02] <sepero> Flynn__: right. i thought you wanted to upgrade it
[06:02] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: you actually don't want that package, it has 11.2 I think
[06:03] <v1c3> ChogyDan: Its in there and I can change it. Only have experience with OpenRC and systemd.
[06:03] <Flynn__> sepero, I think my version is latest
[06:04] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: I guess you could follow the STA no internet access
[06:05] <v1c3> ChogyDan: Have to rename default user of raspberryy pi. and now a few things are fucked up :) Thank you very much!
[06:05] <sepero> Flynn__: upgrading that package will give you the latest from the repositories. If upgrading in doesn't give you the latest flashplayer from adobe, then you should follow You may ChogyDan's advice
[06:05] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan i have the driver orig.tar.gz on my laptop but i dont understand how to install
[06:06] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: why can't you just plug in your ethernet cable, just so you can use the gui?  I mean, it would be easier
[06:06] <Flynn__> I'm not really sure what ChogyDan's advice was.
[06:07] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: ok. brb. im going to lose conection
[06:08] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: google-chrome has the latest flash built in.  As for advice, maybe use a different DE than unity.  Other than that, i think flash is just slower on linux
[06:08] <Flynn__> Isn't there an open source flash player?  Maybe that would be better.  Can it be installed to chrome.?
[06:08] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, DE?
[06:08] <sepero> Flynn__: Well other than the repositories, you could get it directly from Adobe, or a ppa. I wouldn't recommend downloading directly from adobe though, cause that could lead to more complicated things
[06:09] <ChogyDan> sepero: the only way to get the latest flash is through chrome.  It's a thing
[06:09] <Flynn__> Adobe does not support linux.
[06:09] <sepero> Flynn__: the open source flash player is called gnash
[06:10] <Flynn__> sepero, would that be better?
[06:10] <urandom_> sepero: Does gnash offer comparable performance?
[06:10] <ui_> Flynn__: there are gnash and shumway, but I do not think they have better performance
[06:10] <Flynn__> Ok.
[06:10] <sepero> Flynn__: urandom_: I don't currently use gnash, so I'm not sure
[06:11] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, what is DE?
[06:11] <urandom_> I've always hated Flash and, for the most part, avoid it like the plague
[06:12] <Flynn__> Thwe only thing the average person does on the internet anymore involves flash.
[06:12] <sepero> urandom_: probably a good call  ;)
[06:12] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: desktop environment.  I meant, use something other than unity/ubuntu.  From what ive heard, unity impacts performance a bit
[06:12] <histo> !best | Flynn__
[06:13] <sepero> !help
[06:13] <sepero> How do I get a list of commands from ubottu?
[06:14] <julianwa> Hey, anyone knows where I can get nx3fwct.bin for NetXen NX3 serious adapter under 12.04?
[06:14] <urandom_> Flynn_: I'm not so average... ;)
[06:14] <ui_> !factoids
[06:14] <ui_> sepero: ^^^
[06:14] <ui_> factoids.cgi
[06:14] <sepero> ui_: thx
[06:14] <Flynn__> ChogyDan, such as...  I can't think of it.  The distro with the lizard emblem?
[06:15] <DarkAlice> ChogyDan here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6027608/plain/
[06:15] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: I've moved to xubuntu, and then turned off effects
[06:15] <Flynn__> how do I do that?
[06:15] <trindaz> GOT it! thanks uid_ for your help before - i was using crontab -e to control user cron jobs, which didn't have permission to save to that log location I was trying. All sorted now.
[06:15] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: i cant find system
[06:15] <sepero> julianwa: i never heard of nx3fwct.bin
[06:16] <sepero> Flynn__: opensuse
[06:16] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: im on my ubuntu laptop now
[06:16] <Flynn__> that was it!
[06:16] <julianwa> sepero: when I trying to install 12.04 server on HP DL580 G7, it asks me provide that driver with floppy.
[06:16] <ChogyDan> Flynn__: install xubuntu-desktop, then switch to xubuntu on your login page
[06:16] <sepero> Flynn__: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop-environment
[06:17] <gordonjcp> o_O
[06:17] <ui_> ubutnu asks for a floppy?
[06:17] <histo> !notunity > Flynn__
[06:17] <gordonjcp> installing XFCE to help flash performance? madness...
[06:17] <gordonjcp> ui_: shouldn't do
[06:17] <ui_> that's what I was thinking
[06:18] <julianwa> sepero: it's debian non-free firmware
[06:18] <sepero> hehe
[06:18] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: try opening the software center
[06:18] <AcidRain2012> ok, so according to vsftp documentation, its not logical at all to have an ftp server where all home folders arent located in a single folder? :/
[06:19] <sepero> julianwa: i wish i could help, but your questions is maybe a little too specific for most ppl in here
[06:19] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: ok i did
[06:19] <AcidRain2012> i have like 15 hdds, how can i setup virtual users home folders to different paths other than ex: /var/www/$USER
[06:19] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: edit > software sources > additional drivers.   hopefully it shows up
[06:20] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I might be able to help you
[06:20] <histo> AcidRain2012: mount whatever device to their directory etc...
[06:20] <julianwa> sepero: yep... from lp bug 880541, it should be there :(
[06:20] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: No proprietary drivers in use.?
[06:21] <AcidRain2012> histo, will vsftp follow sym links?
[06:21] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: does it show anything else?
[06:21] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I use vsftp, but I'm not familiar with "virtual users". Where are you reading this
[06:21] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: Nothing shows up exept that at the bottom
[06:21] <Flynn__> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop-environment
[06:21] <Flynn__> [sudo] password for frankie:
[06:21] <Flynn__> Reading package lists... Done
[06:21] <Flynn__> Building dependency tree
[06:21] <Flynn__> Reading state information... Done
[06:21] <FloodBot1> Flynn__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <Flynn__> E: Unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop-environment
[06:21] <AcidRain2012> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEkQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sigerr.org%2Flinux%2Fsetup-vsftpd-custom-multiple-directories-users-accounts-ubuntu-step-by-step&ei=lPEaUtDTO8XI2wW6yIHQCg&usg=AFQjCNFaIzzF-gHqn7jvCzZYZjDuzTM8Lg&sig2=TuG0ME6F8nx54eB5fC39QA
[06:22] <sepero> Flynn__: apt-cache search xubuntu desktop
[06:22] <histo> Flynn__: apt-get update first then install xubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <DotCom123> histo: Is there Boot to RAM option in ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[06:23] <owen__> Hello all -- Having problems with an Ubuntu 12.04LTS migration from OpenVZ to a local device. The kernel which was imported was 'linux-kernel-<IP_ADDRESS>-........' Basically when I try to run 'iptables -L' I get ... 'FATAL v1.4.12: can't initialize iptabes 'filter' : Table does not exist (do you need to insmod)?'  ........ So I installed kernel 3.4..... instead and removed the original kernel that was copied from the OpenVZ container , now ipta
[06:23] <AcidRain2012> quite honestly, proftpd is the best one ive used. but it doesnt want to work at all in ubuntu 12. it allowed me to setup home directories all over my filesystem.
[06:23] <DotCom123> Or its not supported anymore?
[06:24] <histo> !ftpd | AcidRain2012
[06:24] <ChogyDan> AcidRain2012: you can just hack it with sym links.  ln -s actual/folder desired/location
[06:24] <AcidRain2012> pureadmin has failed me
[06:25] <sepero> AcidRain2012: do you have apache running?
[06:26] <AcidRain2012> ChogyDan, ok, but what about file permissions? this is what im worried about. lets say i want one user to have access to /var/www/site, and be able to upload and do anything there. how do i allow him to do that, while still allowing other users to read from that folder as a website?
[06:26] <AcidRain2012> sepero, apache is indeed running
[06:26] <histo> DotCom123: not out of the box.
[06:26] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: any other suggestions?
[06:27] <DotCom123> histo: Can you give some general directions how to use it?
[06:27] <ChogyDan> tabbytabtab: not atm, sorry
[06:27] <AcidRain2012> sepero, ill try pureftp again. last chance though. if i get a single login error im giving up on it. lol
[06:27] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: :/ thanks for trying
[06:28] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I would try symlinks
[06:28] <histo> DotCom123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194501/instruct-ubuntu-to-boot-toram-from-flash-drive-using-unetbootin
[06:29] <AcidRain2012> sepero, but you see. i get login error again. the folder: /home/ftpusers is there, nothing is in it. but its there. why is it not allowing me to login?
[06:30] <AcidRain2012> filezilla says: Error:	Critical error. Error:	Could not connect to server
[06:30] <sepero> AcidRain2012: good question
[06:30] <AcidRain2012> i know this is false, because it checked my username and password
[06:30] <sepero> AcidRain2012: I only use vsftp with real users.
[06:30] <histo> AcidRain2012: permissions on the ftpusers directory?
[06:30] <AcidRain2012> owner: 120 - user #120
[06:31] <AcidRain2012> ftpgroup
[06:31] <AcidRain2012> i have user set to ftpuser 120, and group set to ftpgroup
[06:31] <sepero> AcidRain2012: "Could not connect to server" sounds like a pre-login error
[06:32] <AcidRain2012> sepero, which means?.... im using the pureadmin gui right now.
[06:32] <sepero> AcidRain2012: make sure the ip+port is correct, and vsftp is listening
[06:32] <AcidRain2012> sepero, im also using pureftpd
[06:33] <sepero> AcidRain2012: ok
[06:33] <owen__> Does anyone know how to enable iptables module for the kernel at boot time?
[06:34] <Guest24679> i am trying to install additional proprietory drivers on ubuntu 12.04 pc. but i get an error which says check dpkg log http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:34] <Guest24679> what should i do?
[06:34] <sepero> AcidRain2012: you can run them at the same time, just use diferent ports
[06:35] <Guest24679> and now my wifi has stopped working..
[06:35] <Guest24679> i am connected through a lan cable
[06:35] <AcidRain2012> sepero, pureftpd said to create a file called Bind and set the ip,port. that didnt help
[06:36] <Guest24679> this never happened earlier
[06:36] <AcidRain2012> Response:	530 Login authentication failed
[06:37] <sepero> AcidRain2012: unfortunately i'm not familiar with proftpd
[06:37] <Flynn__> how do you change login from automatic?
[06:37] <AcidRain2012> sepero, well its pureftpd :P
[06:37] <AcidRain2012> sepero, but im about to try out vsftpd again
[06:38] <sepero> AcidRain2012: ok
[06:38] <AcidRain2012> sepero, ill let you know when ive ran into any problems
[06:38] <sepero> AcidRain2012: ok
[06:38] <Guest24679> my wifi is not working..
[06:39] <tabbytabtab> ChogyDan: i found broadcom's official linux driver but how do i install a tar.gz?
[06:39] <yeni> here http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-secure/files/   the linux-secure-13.04-64bit.iso is which one of those in Usb Installer ? ( kubuntu | lubunu | xubuntu )?
[06:39] <gordonjcp> tabbytabtab: there will be instructions for it somewhere on the site
[06:39] <Guest24679> ???
[06:40] <tabbytabtab> no there isn't
[06:40] <Guest24679> its a broadcom chip it was workiing when i installed the system
[06:40] <Guest24679> then i saw a message for activating proprietory drivers
[06:40] <Guest24679> i clicked there
[06:40] <Guest24679> and then i got this error
[06:41] <helge_> Anyone have any idea why gnome-keyring-daemon out of nowhere starts whining about "invalid or unrecognized private SSH key: helge@helge", making any ssh with key files attempts not working anymore? afaics, theres nothing wrong with my ~/.ssh/
[06:41] <tabbytabtab> gordonjcp: nope
[06:41] <flynn__> Once you install xubuntu you just have to log out and back in?  Or restart?
[06:42] <ooko0> hey, i am running three monitors did ubuntu fix the issue with dragging windows from one monitor to the other?
[06:44] <Guest24679> please check whats the error in here http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:44] <ooko0> sounds like a terrible idea
[06:45] <owen__> Hi does anyone know anything about how to enable iptables module at boot time?
[06:46] <Guest24679> http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:47] <Guest24679> Wifi not workiing: http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:47] <Guest24679> Wifi not workiing: http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:47] <ooko0> so what is the identified with services?
[06:51] <Guest24679>  Wifi not workiing: http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[06:53] <stobix> hi. what is the command for opening Update Manager? (I have a WM without menus and such, so no "go to blah->blah->blah" is gonna help.)
[06:54] <ezra-s> with unity you would have had to type 3 characters most to find it ;P
[06:55] <stobix> heh. well. I wouldn't have found it even if I found it. :þ
[06:55] <ezra-s> stobix, "update-manager"
[06:55] <ezra-s> yes you would
[06:55] <stobix> ezra-s: hm. Is it possible it isn't installed for me?
[06:56] <ezra-s> so much hate for unity, but it is faster than menu's or having to guess what binaries are called like
[06:56] <owen__> Does anyone know how to enable iptables module for the kernel at boot time?
[06:56] <stobix> huh, seems so...
[06:56]  * stobix installs update-manager
[06:56] <stobix> no wonder it couldn't be found...
[06:56] <helge_> Hi! I'm getting an error, "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.", when logging into ssh servers using an identity file. The logs says "gnome-keyring-daemon: invalid or unrecognized private SSH key: helge@helge". Anyone got an idea what's wrong?
[06:56] <ezra-s> stobix, seeing how you don't know how to use unity dash, and you probably don't know what you installed, yes, it's possible :P
[06:56] <chiques> USB is always a tease for me
[06:57]  * ezra-s judging finger points to stobix, hehhee
[06:57] <chiques> always gotta resort to the good ol' CDR
[06:57] <stobix> ezra-s: when unity lets me do all the stuff that XMonad lets me do, I'll maybe consider taking a second look at it.
[06:57] <ezra-s> stobix, yes yes, but you're stuck trying to find the simple update-manager
[06:57] <chiques> USB installation boot that is...
[06:57]  * xmetal shrugs ... unity is really the only DE i dont care for
[06:58] <ezra-s> stobix, don't get mad at me though, I'm just picking on you, without malice
[06:58] <AcidRain2012> sepero, may i pm you?
[06:58] <stobix> ezra-s: guessed as much.
[06:58] <stobix> ezra-s: if you run emacs as well, we can really have an all-out war... ;)
[06:58] <gordonjcp> stobix: what does xmonad do that you can't do with Unity?
[06:59] <ezra-s> stobix, nah, you can shoot me, but never passed more than 5 seconds with emacs, kind of like you have done with unity :P
[06:59]  * ezra-s looks for all about "XMonad", Im intrigued.
[07:00] <ezra-s> ohh, another tiling wm
[07:00] <stobix> gordonjcp: on several screens, the desktops are taken from ONE pool (configurable), not one per screen. This is what got me to switch (from openbox). Also, the config file is a haskell module. I can basically just write my own functions to change the window manager in exactly the way I want. A while ago I wrote ~72 keyboard shortcuts in one using a list comprehension.
[07:00] <ezra-s> i have to try one sooner or later, it's just another style to get used to
[07:00]  * stobix uses vim
[07:00] <sepero> AcidRain2012: sure
[07:01] <ezra-s> stobix, I use vim too when on console
[07:01] <gordonjcp> stobix: see, that's exactly why I couldn't get into xmonad
[07:01] <stobix> anyhow, back to work. Thanks ezra-s. I'll continue to play with you in ~4-8 hours...
[07:02] <gordonjcp> stobix: I don't have time to do a degree in Comp Sci so I can learn Haskell so I can make it not have tiny pixelly grey-on-grey fonts
[07:02] <ezra-s> stobix, lol, have fun, don't work too hard ;)
[07:02] <stobix> gordonjcp: I already did that. :þ
[07:02] <stobix> ezra-s: thanks
[07:02] <ezra-s> btw, learning 72 shortcuts to handle a WM is not practical!!!
[07:03] <ooko0> LMAO agree
[07:03] <gordonjcp> stobix: for me, time spent fannying about writing pages of haskell to make a DE usable is time wasted
[07:04] <stobix> ezra-s: each of wasd+win+each of all permutations  of ctrl+alt+shift+none (Maybe not exactly 72, but meh.)
[07:04] <gordonjcp> stobix: I use unity because it works and that's what it comes with out of the box
[07:04] <stobix> gordonjcp: you have fun with that. Unity doesn't work IMO, and never will.
[07:04] <helmut_> hi
[07:04]  * stobix runs off to desktop 3 and starts working
[07:04] <gordonjcp> stobix: "doesn't work" in what way?
[07:05] <compx0_> Hi
[07:05] <burg> hello. no matter how i try to create a bootable usb, when i boot from it and choose 'check disk' it finds a file with a different md5sum. the iso image is not corrupted (i checked the md5sum)
[07:05] <ezra-s> stobix, in unity all you really need to learn is how to switch desktop to desktop, dash key, ALT, a maybe 2 or 3 more... but I understand some may prefer tiling
[07:05] <gordonjcp> stobix: I *used to* use multiple desktops, but now I can afford a large monitor, over 1000 pixels wide!
[07:05] <ooko0> you're doing it wrong then Burg
[07:05] <ezra-s> comparing unity vs titling is futile, they are totally different styles
[07:05] <compx0_> Hi
[07:05] <ooko0> hu
[07:05] <gordonjcp> ezra-s: yeah
[07:06] <ezra-s> is like comparing X with console
[07:06] <compx0_> need help
[07:06] <compx0_> hu
[07:06] <gordonjcp> ezra-s: tiling is horrible, why do people want to use an environment that looks like the 1980s?
[07:06] <burg> ooko0, i tried with twi different applications, then on command line with dd -- same result
[07:06] <gordonjcp> burg: USB stick dying?
[07:06] <ooko0> have you tried your drive on a different computer?
[07:06] <compx0_> need help
[07:07] <gordonjcp> !help | compx0_
[07:07] <ooko0> All i am saying is try the usb drive on a different computer to make sure that it works
[07:07] <compx0_> http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[07:08] <ooko0> ^^^ virus?
[07:08] <burg> gordonjcp, thought that and tried with another usb stick -- same result.
[07:09] <compx0_> my wifi is not working in laptop.
[07:15] <pradeepg> Hi ! I'm not able to connect to the MySQL DB which is running on AWS(Ubuntu 13.04) from another AWS server or even from my localhost. I have opened the port 3306 under security groups but still I don't know what's the problem.
[07:15] <compx0_> my wifi is not working
[07:15] <burg> also, the default bootable usb creator from ubuntu always fails (i use ubuntu gnome 13.04)
[07:16] <ooko0> so the other IRC servers suck
[07:17] <compx0_> my wifi is not working
[07:18] <weblife> my life is not working
[07:18] <weblife> can you fix it
[07:18] <weblife> ;x
[07:19] <compx0_> http://pastebin.com/uAsMgB5B
[07:19] <compx0_> when i installed it was
[07:19] <compx0_> working
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom
[07:20] <quinnat> I am having a lot of trouble figuring out how to figure out what dhcp options i received, I thought they would be in the file /var/lib/dhcp/dhcp.leases
[07:21] <quinnat> searching on Google for dhcp leases file and linux gives me a lot of info on the server piece and or Microsoft (even with linux) attached
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> burg, I only see the usb creator not working I just came on there are handfuls of others unetbootin is commonly used
[07:22] <burg> wilee-nilee, same md5sum problem with unetbootin
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> burg, So te md5sum is wrong?
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> the*
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> of the iso?
[07:23] <tokern3> i installed juju but when i used it it gave me this error:           error: No environments configured. Please edit: /root/.juju/environments.yaml   it seems it's a bug . what should i do?
[07:24] <burg> wilee-nilee, the md5sum of the iso is correct
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> burg, Can you reiterate the problems you are having?
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> tokern3, I see a #juju channel as well
[07:34] <burg> wilee-nilee, no matter what i use to create the bootable usb, when i try to install it either tells me that one of the files is corrupted or that the installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted. the iso mdsum is correct
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> burg, So in general all you can do is knock out variables, I have had iso's that the sum was correct that did not work, are you getting to the desktop?
[07:37] <burg> wilee-nilee, i want to install ubuntu server 12.04 . i was trying with 12.04.2 and now i am trying with 12.04.3, but no success
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> burg, So this is the server download a text install?
[07:38] <burg> yes
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> burg, There is the mini netload that might be worth a try the download is tiny for the iso.
[07:39] <bu5m4n> Hello together, I have to setup a few laptops for multiple users, but these users should not be able to change/read the wlanpassword ... can any of you help me ?
[07:39] <bu5m4n> I want to use networkmanager !
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> burg, You could check the iso you have with the torrent download by changing their names to it.
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> iso's
[07:42] <reisio> bu5m4n: so don't tell them the keyring password
[07:43] <bu5m4n> okay thx for the tipp I will see if I get it ;) do you have any wiki entry how to do this ?
[07:45] <reisio> bu5m4n: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1919254
[07:45] <bu5m4n> thx :)
[07:46] <quinnat> for the record: nmcli dev list iface wlan0 to see which dhcp options were passed to the client
[07:51] <SwashBuckla> The price of an eight year-old dromedary camel: $1000qq
[07:57] <hacktus0> hi evrybody, how can i do for install dip (dial-up ip protocol) ? please ?
[08:09] <convoi> hacktus0, look here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[08:13] <hacktus0> convoi, OK thanks you for this help
[08:19] <matanya> is there anyone with access to the ubuntu website on this channel? there is a mistake there
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> matanya, not really, whats the mistake?
[08:20] <matanya> on some machines, when I choose the 64bit versions i get the 32 version
[08:21] <matanya> not sure if there is an error in the place the link is pointing to
[08:21] <matanya> but on some i get the correct link
[08:22] <tabby_> i downgraded to 12.04.3 LTS and when it scans for drivrs it gives me my wifi driver and says it cant install it
[08:22] <tabby_> because i couldnt have wifi in 13.04
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> matanya, Do hyou have noscript or a flash block running?
[08:23] <tabby_> i need help
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> matanya, Same happened here till I okayed the flash, in noscript, I think the cookies are in that.
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, can you identify the wifi hardware?
[08:26] <tabby_> wilee-nilee: bcw4311
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, were you in earlier with this problem and another nick?
[08:27] <tabby_> wilee-nilee: i was on before with another nick but it was a different problem and a different ubuntu version
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | tabby_ Not sure if you have seen this
[08:29] <tabby_> wilee-nilee: yes i saw it but i dont have a clue as to install it
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, There is also this link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> tabby_, I'm not up on theses cards so all I can do is give theses links.
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> these*
[08:30] <matanya> wilee-nilee: i don't have noscript/flash block on this machine
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> matanya, I'm not sure than, I just found that as I described my attempt. There is an alternative downloads option though.
[08:32] <matanya> I know. i think it is related to the mirror you pick
[08:32] <kilopopo> ubuntu is nice
[08:32] <kilopopo> ;p
[08:33] <kilopopo> very looking good
[08:33] <matanya> when i use mirror.ox.ac.uk it happens every time
[08:33] <matanya> with others it doesn't
[08:33] <punzilla> hi all
[08:34] <punzilla> I'm attempting to run my work Citrix - using Citrix receiver, and I am having issues.
[08:34] <punzilla> can someone please assist, there doesn't seem to be a solution available on the internet.
[08:34] <gordonjcp> !help | punzilla
[08:35] <nu11s37> When using Ubuntu 12.04 using kernel 3.5.39. If I open firefox and then a terminal and then close the terminal, the system hangs
[08:35] <nu11s37> does not happen in 3.5.37
[08:36] <nu11s37> what should I do ?
[08:36] <penguinman> nu11s37, sounds like a kernel bug. you can backport the 3.8 kernel from raring if you want
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> penguinman, Tha would not be supported here is all.
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> and bad advice in general
[08:37] <nu11s37> I am using 12.04
[08:37] <nu11s37> I think the repos will be messed
[08:37] <nu11s37> dunno for sure
[08:38] <nu11s37> I am using 3.5.37
[08:38] <k1l> 12.04 got the kernel enablement stack.
[08:38] <nu11s37> Infact yesterday everything was working fine
[08:38] <k1l> but i dont think its the kernels fault in first place. take a look at syslog to see what is happening
[08:39] <penguinman> nu11s37, file a bug report.
[08:39] <nu11s37> I don't if it has been previously reported
[08:39] <penguinman> I don't think 12.04 is using staggered upgrades is it?
[08:40] <penguinman> the only reason I mention that is because if only a few people have they might not have run into that.
[08:40] <k1l> penguinman: please take care of what you advice :/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:42] <nyuszika7h> hi, I was trying to debug why the PulseAudio alert sound is not working, and I found this with pulseaudio -v:
[08:42] <nyuszika7h> I: [pulseaudio] module-x11-bell.c: Ringing bell failed, reverting to X11 device bell.
[08:42] <nu11s37> does ubuntu use rsyslog
[08:42] <nu11s37> or syslog
[08:43] <nyuszika7h> nu11s37: it uses rsyslog by default.
[08:44] <nu11s37> k1l, where do I find syslog ?
[08:44] <k1l> nu11s37: /var/log/
[08:45] <nu11s37> It also sometimes say's xorg crashed or something
[08:46] <k1l> nu11s37: again: take a look into the logs. we cant just guess what is happening
[08:47] <nu11s37> should I pastebin it ?
[08:47] <k1l> yes
[08:47] <k1l> but i am afk now, so maybe other in here could help
[08:50] <nu11s37> Syslog is also reflecting network traffi
[08:50] <nu11s37> traffic*
[08:51] <runy> hi
[08:51] <reisio> suppah
[09:06] <Roland-> hello, simple question: how do I give write access to multiple users which are not in the same group ?
[09:08] <reisio> you could put them in a group
[09:12] <gribouille> hi
[09:12] <gribouille> hi
[09:13] <gribouille> when trying to remove a snapshot, I get an error message like this : Unable to deactivate open station-home-real (252:10)
[09:14] <diegothinkpad> hi
[09:29] <fat_zer0> test
[09:32] <auronandace> !test | fat_zer0
[09:33] <diegothinkpad> whats up
[09:35] <Guest85261> hey french?
[09:36] <vlt> !fr | Guest85261
[09:36] <gribouille> when trying to remove a snapshot, I get an error message like this : Unable to deactivate open station-home-real (252:10)
[09:36] <stardiviner> 请问这个二手的thinkpad X40 http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.4.lGOQWj&id=16676413833 怎么样？会不会有啥问题啊？
[09:37] <Guest85261> yes im french
[09:37] <convoi> !vi
[09:37] <Guest85261> and you?
[09:37] <convoi> !vn
[09:38] <Myrtti> !cn | stardiviner
[09:38] <lenzeor> Hey guys!
[09:39] <lenzeor> Have you tried elementaryOS?
[09:39] <Guest85261> hi ym a girl french xD
[09:39] <lenzeor> Guest85261, c'est pas possible! :o
[09:39] <convoi> Guest85261 type: /nick frenchgirl
[09:40] <ingrid_> je revien
[09:42] <ingrid_> y'a des français?
[09:43] <Roland-> ok I have a group, I add write access to that group but whenever a user edits a file another user cannot edit it naymore what can I do
[09:43] <ingrid_> :'CCCCC
[09:43] <ingrid_> xD
[09:46] <lenzeor> ingrid ily y en a tjrs! :)
[09:47] <SwashBuckla> lenzeor: they've disconnected
[09:48] <nopf> hi. on a 12.10 running 27 i sudenly lost the ability to switch workspaces via c-a-arrows. (super-s switcher works). also in firefox keys don't get through to the vimperator plugin, except i right-click the status bar, press ESC. then the keys get through for about 3 seconds. after that time, they get to the firefox itself only. i restartet firefox to no avail. any idea?
[09:48] <nopf> running for 27 days that is
[09:49] <zipper> For some reason apt isn't automatially installing dependencies even when I pass the --install-suggests param :C
[09:50] <Bella_> xD
[09:50] <zipper> I'm always getting
[09:50] <zipper> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:50] <Bella_> french?
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[09:51] <Bella_> yes
[09:51] <Bella_> and girl xD
[09:51] <Bella_> mi little speak english
[09:51] <SwashBuckla> how do I revert back to the default X setup? I installed a proprietary AMD/ATI post-release driver and it's horribly broken. The display is shredded into lots of little slices of colour & no-color