[17:08] <philipballew_> Has anyone seen a good app for android that would let me backup to a file server I have in my house?
[17:16] <BotenAnna> isn't there ubuntu one for android? use the ~*cloud*~
[17:16] <MarkDude> If you want to go all non FOSS- Dropbax is easy enough
[17:16] <MarkDude> box rahter
[17:28] <philipballew_> well i already have a home server set up. I could just make it a shared folder for android or whatever android calls it. But ubuntu one is not a bad idea
[17:43] <iheartubuntu> hey all. is anyone here a motherboard expert? my sis is having a really strange thing happen to her computer. it has ubuntu 11.10 and can run for days and days doing ubuntu games and other apps, but when she plays World of Warcraft through WINE the computer will just shut off after about 30 minutes of gameplay.
[17:43] <pleia2> I'd run a ram test for a few hours
[17:44] <akk> Or check the temperature.
[17:44] <iheartubuntu> I put in a new power supply thinking it might have been going bad and it did not resolve the issue. Ive also completed a couple memory tests on different days with no errors
[17:44] <iheartubuntu> im now thinking of checkign the ram sticks one at a time
[17:44] <iheartubuntu> a bit of research online has some people complaining about the video card specifically
[17:45] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: thanks for updating the gaming page :) I wasn't on the right machine to play games the other night but if you have the opportunity again soon I can make some time (and be at my desk :))
[17:45] <iheartubuntu> so i dont think its an issue with WOW in WINE on Ubuntu
[17:45] <iheartubuntu> PyScrabble is awesome :) im curious how many people can play it at once
[17:45] <akk> Group scrabble sounds fun.
[17:46] <iheartubuntu> so if the ram checks out, its leading me to either a motherboard problem or a video card problem
[17:47] <iheartubuntu> im up for a pyscrabble game right now if anyone wants to test it
[17:48] <iheartubuntu> after installing pyscrabble, create a free account on the main server...  pyscrabble.califorest.com:9999
[17:49] <akk> I'm game for it ... do you know if it's possible to switch machines in the middle of a game?
[17:49] <iheartubuntu> i dont know about that
[17:49] <akk> I'm on the laptop now but expecting to move out to the office shortly, maybe should move before starting a game.
[17:50] <akk> Also, do check temperature on the board before completely discounting heat as the problem.
[17:50] <iheartubuntu> its serious when ive pinned pyscrabble to my unity bar
[17:50] <akk> heh
[17:50] <akk> I've had several machines that had problems due to overheating (mostly AMD machines).
[17:51] <MarkDude> Gareth, ping
[17:51] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: er, I can make some time that's not during my work day :)
[17:51] <iheartubuntu> there are two BIG fans... one sucking air to the big heat sink and another pushing it out the computer, plus a huge fan on the PSU now
[17:51] <iheartubuntu> ohh right :)
[17:51] <Gareth> MarkDude: pong
[17:51] <iheartubuntu> maybe tonite or tomorrow nite
[17:51] <pleia2> yeah that's good
[17:51]  * MarkDude just had a person ask about their prize from Scale
[17:51] <pleia2> I'll be around this evening after 6:30
[17:52] <MarkDude> They are German, so I am scared
[17:52]  * MarkDude kids
[17:52] <iheartubuntu> be careful... words just seem to come to me after a beer
[17:52] <akk> iheartubuntu: what does it want for "hostname" when I register?
[17:52] <pleia2> I'm terrible at scrabble
[17:52] <iheartubuntu> pyscrabble.califorest.com:9999
[17:52] <iheartubuntu> there should be two boxes that have opened
[17:53] <Gareth> MarkDude: which prize?
[17:53] <iheartubuntu> one a server listing and another the login page
[17:53] <akk> It's giving me 2 windows -- in one I can pick pyscrabble.califorest.com:9999 but in the other it wants username, passwd and hostname.
[17:53] <akk> Do I have to retype pyscrabble.califorest.com:9999 in the hostname field even though I've picked it in the first window?
[17:53] <iheartubuntu> if you have never registered, register on the server listing page in the pyscrabble.califorest.com:9999 server
[17:53]  * MarkDude is having him join channel
[17:53] <MarkDude> Or you can join #fedora-design :)
[17:53] <iheartubuntu> you have to click the register icon to register a name and pass
[17:54] <akk> Oh, I see, the login page is pointless until I click Register at which point it gives me yet a third window.
[17:54] <iheartubuntu> exactly
[17:54] <iheartubuntu> once you get past this part is works fine
[17:54] <akk> Okay, I'm in
[17:55] <iheartubuntu> so ive created a game
[17:55] <MarkDude> Well, he night be scared if this being Ubuntu channel - lol
[17:55] <akk> Should I "join game"?
[17:55] <iheartubuntu> and people can go into that game now
[17:55]  * akk does so
[17:55] <iheartubuntu> and when ready id click start
[17:55] <iheartubuntu> anyone else ready to risk their careers for a little scrabble?
[17:56] <akk> c'mon, some other people join us
[17:56] <akk> and meanwhile I'm going to get more coffee before we start
[17:57] <iheartubuntu> ok
[17:57] <iheartubuntu> me too
[17:58] <iheartubuntu> ok we have for scrabblers now!
[17:59] <iheartubuntu> come on philip... you can ditch class for some scrabble
[17:59] <iheartubuntu> markdude... tomatoes will be OK
[17:59] <MarkDude> What link for the game?
[18:00] <iheartubuntu> you have to install pyscrabble
[18:00] <iheartubuntu> its in the reps
[18:00] <iheartubuntu> ready?
[18:01] <akk> I'm ready (as much as I'm gonna be, anyway :)
[18:54] <iheartubuntu> that was a lot of fun
[18:54] <akk> It was!
[18:54] <nhaines> Who won?
[18:55] <akk> iheartubuntu won.
[18:55] <iheartubuntu> Ubuntu Gaming Night won!
[18:55] <akk> But the lead was trading off all through the game.
[18:55] <akk> So there was plenty of tension. :)
[18:55] <nhaines> It's not night?
[18:55] <iheartubuntu> yeah. hitting a long word and those colored squares is mighty helpful
[18:55] <iheartubuntu> we were testing the gameplay
[18:56] <akk> It worked well.
[18:57] <iheartubuntu> the built in dictionary is smart. my only wish is that it had offline play with just computer AI to play and learn on your own
[19:03] <iheartubuntu> although you can create a game and play as the only player, adding words.
[19:29]  * MarkDude is hella down with doing a gaming night
[19:29] <MarkDude> :)
[19:32] <iheartubuntu> according to wikipedia, scrabble is a 2-4 player game. not sure what pyscrabble allows since i can play the game online by myself.
[21:07] <philipballew> compiling a kernel confuses the crap out of me...
[21:52] <nhaines> Ubuntu 12.04 is now in beta. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta1


[00:23] <crankharder> is I have vanilla ubuntu installed, is there a repo I can add to my sources file to get the latest mythbuntu packages?
[00:23] <crankharder> *if I have...
[00:26] <tgm4883> !autobuilds | crankharder
[00:26] <Zinn> crankharder: Auto builds are available for MythTV 0.21 (Stable) and MythTV Trunk 0.22 (Unstable, use at your own RISK) for Hardy (0.21 only), Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic (0.22 and 0.23-trunk).  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[00:26] <tgm4883> crankharder, ^^ Don't use the US repo right now, it's broke :(
[00:42] <crankharder> I'm looking for the line to add to my sources file
[00:47] <crankharder> k, thanx guys
[00:51] <jeffjeffdejeff> anyone know why certain channels seem to suddenly disappear when i'm scrolling through the channel listing?
[02:07] <Egghead> just installed 9.10 beta, and trying to get mythbuntu-diskless-server working. imusing a usb flash drive made using 9.04 thru mcc, but client gets an error on boot, i think its the flash drive isnt configed for 9.10 (or changes in ltsp/or nbd server)  is there a way to make the usb flash with 9.10, maybe by running a script or a utility? any ideas?
[02:22] <wolfspirit> I'm on mythbuntu 9.10 (formally on 9.04 which worked fine).  my problem is in the intial setup.  the previous version (at least I don't remember) didn't lock me into scanning between a specific range.  None of the ranges listed has the channels I need.  I need the special 5-1, 9-1 HD channels with the dash in them.  I usually select cable high, how should I correct this?
[02:31] <NeoFax> Can someone help setup my remote frontend to connect to my backend?
[02:34] <Egghead> neo i can try
[02:34] <NeoFax> Thanks!
[02:34] <Egghead> what version of mythbutnu you running
[02:34] <NeoFax> Here is what I have:  The server IP is <IP_ADDRESS> on Mythbuntu 9.10
[02:35] <NeoFax> The mythbuntu backend setup has <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> port6543
[02:35] <wolfspirit> those are internal addresses
[02:35] <NeoFax> When I installed it I set the backend to allow connections from anywhere.
[02:35] <NeoFax> Correct, on my LAN
[02:36] <wolfspirit> don't you want him to connect to your computer? or just walk you through it
[02:36] <NeoFax> I am now trying to connect from <IP_ADDRESS>, but it just sits there and then dies.
[02:37] <NeoFax> Walk me through it please
[02:37] <Egghead> on fe it points to be, ie to 1.8?
[02:37] <NeoFax> Yes
[02:37] <Egghead> ok
[02:37] <NeoFax> It says: Testing network connectivity to '<IP_ADDRESS>'
[02:37] <Egghead> can u ping 1.8? from 1.9
[02:38] <NeoFax> Yes, I am ssh'd into it and VNC as well right now
[02:38] <Egghead> ok
[02:38] <NeoFax> To me it seems like the FE cannot connect to the mysql server.
[02:38] <wolfspirit> the issue I ALWAYS run into with this is that mysql on the server needs to be configured to allow remote connections to come in
[02:39] <NeoFax> However, I specifically told the installer to allow this
[02:39] <wolfspirit> you have to edit your mysql conf file under /etc/mysql
[02:39] <Egghead> yea, when setting up did you tell the be it will have other fe's?
[02:39] <Egghead> ahhh
[02:40] <wolfspirit> I think you change the address from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:40] <Egghead> yes
[02:40] <wolfspirit> and restart mysql.. I had to fool around with it for a bit to get it working correctly
[02:40] <Egghead> in be setup
[02:40] <wolfspirit> no I meant in the mysql conf file
[02:41] <wolfspirit> in the be setup you have to specify the actual ip address as opposed to localhost even though the server is running on local host
[02:41] <NeoFax> I did that on the BE
[02:41] <Egghead> in both places
[02:41] <wolfspirit> yeah check your mysql conf file too
[02:42] <NeoFax> On the BE mythbackend-setup General it says <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:42] <wolfspirit> yup on the remote FE too
[02:43] <Egghead> hmmm i donno
[02:43] <NeoFax> They are all set that way and I just tried <IP_ADDRESS> on my.cnf and <IP_ADDRESS> in my.cnf as well.  Same problem.
[02:44] <wolfspirit> and you restarted the service?
[02:44] <Egghead> i can say this i had a hella time with network manager in9.10, had to setup the network manually, and even remove network manager to get thing working
[02:44] <NeoFax> both times
[02:44] <wolfspirit> I can't even get my card to scan channels anymore in 9.10
[02:44] <wolfspirit> :(
[02:44] <wolfspirit> I may have to go back to 9.04 if I don't figure this out in a week or so
[02:45] <Egghead> yea i think somethings arnt working in 9.10 so well, i thinking same here
[02:46] <Egghead> im trying to get the diskless server up and running, havent even tried the connecting from fe yet
[02:46] <Egghead> sounds like ill have some fun there too :) lol
[02:47] <Egghead> wolf u may wanna try reinstalling
[02:47] <wolfspirit> for some reason this version is locking me into a specific range to scan channels and I don't remember previous versions of myth doing that
[02:48] <NeoFax> This worked so well on previous versions.
[02:49] <wolfspirit> have you tried mythdora?  :P
[02:49] <wolfspirit> I have that running on a standalone frontend
[02:49] <Egghead> neo, yea i cant remember having any issues with it b4, well maybe in begining finding the password ect
[02:51] <wolfspirit> hey does the mythtv-setup have a log file somewhere?
[02:52] <superm1> wolfspirit, it runs in a terminal window while mythtv-setup is running
[02:52] <superm1> alt-tab over to see it
[02:52] <superm1> Egghead, check with laga on what's broke with diskless
[02:53] <superm1> he was working on it and i dont know what he did/didn't finish
[02:54] <Egghead> superm1, ok thanks
[02:55] <NeoFax> superm1: Do you know why I cannot connect by FE to my BE over local LAN?
[02:55] <superm1> NeoFax, check /etc/mysql/mythtv.cnf
[02:55] <superm1> see what it's set to
[02:55] <NeoFax> the user mythtv is allowed to connect from any host
[02:55] <NeoFax> I don't have that file
[02:56] <superm1> normally mcc will reconfigure the mysql binding though
[02:56] <NeoFax> I only have debian.cnf and my.cnf
[02:56] <superm1> sorry, /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf
[02:56] <superm1> that's what MCC changes when you enable mysql
[02:56] <NeoFax> It says: bind-address=<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:57] <NeoFax> Want me to change it to <IP_ADDRESS> like the BE?
[02:57] <NeoFax> And change back the my.cnf to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:58] <superm1> it should be <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:58] <superm1> but is it commented out or not?
[02:58] <NeoFax> in mythtv.cnf it is not commented nor in my.cnf
[03:00] <superm1> the setting in /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.conf trumps the setting in my.cnf i believe
[03:00] <superm1> best thing to do now, is look at netstat -ant
[03:00] <superm1> You should see these two lines:
[03:00] <superm1> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3306            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[03:00] <superm1> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:6543            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN
[03:01] <NeoFax> OK, have those along with <IP_ADDRESS>:6543
[03:01] <superm1> Yup that's correct then
[03:01] <superm1> did you set the master backend ip in mythtv-setup?
[03:01] <NeoFax> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:6543        <IP_ADDRESS>:54166       ESTABLISHED
[03:01] <NeoFax> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:6543        <IP_ADDRESS>:52782       ESTABLISHED
[03:02] <superm1> okay so everything is working, carry on:)
[03:02] <NeoFax> Yes, it is <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> for the top and bottom lines
[03:02] <NeoFax> No, I do not get anything on my frontend
[03:02] <superm1> run it from a terminal and see why
[03:02] <NeoFax> Nothing in the logs as well.
[03:02] <superm1> are you sure the timezones are the same?
[03:03] <NeoFax> They are set via ntp
[03:04] <superm1> hm
[03:04] <superm1> okay lets see mythfrontend terminal output. *nothing* stands out to you?
[03:04] <NeoFax> here is the text on running in a terminal: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m2a83a1b2
[03:08] <superm1> and are the values in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and ~/.mythtv/config.xml valid?
[03:08] <superm1> that's toally bizarre otherwise
[03:08] <superm1> you might need to increase the type of log verbosity on mythfrontend
[03:09] <superm1> like mythfrontend -v all
[03:09] <NeoFax> mysql.txt is, but I do not have a config.xml
[03:09] <superm1> that's fine
[03:09] <superm1> just if you have it need to make sure it's right
[03:09] <NeoFax> I tried the -v all and it stops at MediaRenderer::HttpServer Create Error
[03:10] <NeoFax> Here is the full error: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m6855043d
[03:11] <superm1> try mythfrontend -d
[03:12] <superm1> i'm not sure that fully turns off the upnp code, but i'm suspecting that's the failure point
[03:12] <NeoFax> Here is my mysql.txt:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m51159e87
[03:12] <superm1> do you have any other UPNP devices on your network?
[03:13] <NeoFax> Not that I know of.
[03:13] <NeoFax> Normally I run everything with static IPs and my router does not have anything showing under the UPNP page
[03:14] <superm1> i suspect upnp being the problem because here's a "functional" -v all beginning: http://pastebin.com/f22b9edfa
[03:14] <superm1> upnp is the first thing that initializes after the httpserver
[03:15] <superm1> some windows PC apps might speak upnp, and the backend does too
[03:16] <NeoFax> I run only linux
[03:16] <wolfspirit> some routers have it
[03:16] <NeoFax> Linksys WRT54GL with DD-WRT v24sp1
[03:20] <NeoFax> So, if libgmythupnp0 is not installed on the frontend I may have problems?
[03:21] <superm1> no, that's not a supported library anymore
[03:22] <superm1> NeoFax, try disabling the backend upnp code, see if that helps out at all
[03:22] <NeoFax> How do I do that?
[03:23] <superm1> NeoFax, edit /etc/default/mythtv-backend and add "--noupnp" to ARGS
[03:23] <superm1> followed by "sudo service mythtv-backend restart"
[03:25] <NeoFax> Got further that time, but still didn't open
[03:25] <superm1> what's -v all showing now?
[03:26] <NeoFax> Here is the log: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m6ae1a4c9
[03:28] <superm1> and <IP_ADDRESS> is that machien?
[03:28] <NeoFax> Yes
[03:28] <NeoFax> It is the FE
[03:29] <superm1> hmm.  do you have any other services on this machine that might possibly be interfering?
[03:30] <NeoFax> No, should only have the myth setup
[03:30] <NeoFax> I on purposely set it to be just a myth system.  I can check though
[03:31] <NeoFax> Here is my netstat -ant:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m77f70f80
[03:33] <superm1> i'm really not sure
[03:33] <superm1> everything looks configured right
[03:33] <NeoFax> That is what I was fearing.
[03:34] <NeoFax> I guess I will just have to watch the shows in the other room then.  Can I use XBMC to connect remotely maybe?
[03:34] <superm1> well surely whatever this is causing this can be removed, there's lots of us with remote frontends set up
[03:34] <superm1> just start pulling variables out of your network
[03:35] <superm1> extra devices, extra things listening on ports on either machine
[03:35] <superm1> and on that router, check i you have a upnp package installed even if it's not showing up on that upnp page
[03:35] <superm1> i know you can with openwrt
[03:36] <superm1> ddwrt i'm not sure
[03:36] <NeoFax> I may just format the router and put tomato on it
[03:37] <superm1> if you can hook up your machines directly to one another with a static ip, that can take the router variable out at least
[03:37] <superm1> (temporarily)
[03:39] <NeoFax> I have a crossover cable somewhere
[04:27] <Egghead> does anyon know how to make a usb flash drive boot into mythbuntu-diskless-serve (ltsp) in 9.10?
[05:29] <NeoFax> superm1:  I have been playing around with it and was able to get the FE on the BE to work by changing the port to 3306.  However, looking at the logs now all I get is:
[05:29] <NeoFax> Would you like to configure the database connection now? [no]
[05:29] <NeoFax> [console is not interactive, using default 'no']
[10:42] <abongile> Hi All I am new to linux but trying to learn. I can't get into Mythbuntu Control Centre I get "Failed to run /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre as user root. And Unabale to copy the user's Xauthorisation file. Please help.  I noticed this after having followed some on-line instructions to mount my second internal hard hard drive.  It is now mounted and have put some data on it.  I am afraid of reboo
[11:21] <oobe> abongile, run mythbuntu-control-centre as a normal user
[11:21] <oobe> and it should prompt you for a password
[13:08] <roy_hobbs> Hey, I'm having trouble with a new install of mythbuntu 9.10b. It asked me about my remote when I installed, but it's not responding.
[13:09] <roy_hobbs> I have one of these Windows Media things with an IR Receiver and Transmitter in one (It has a Phillips signature).
[13:43] <minik> how big is the mythbuntu 9.04 download?
[13:49] <hads> CD size
[13:51] <minik> ok
[13:51] <minik> can I install it using the update manager?
[14:11] <henrypainter> is there any chance of getting myth to work with PHC3-100/NAQ/FM/AV/RC TV Tuner Card PCI Interface?
[17:56] <squegie> anyone familiar with vdpau?
[17:57] <squegie> i have it working to the point where I can manually run mplayer and play the file (via either command line switches or mplayer.conf) but when i play the same file in myth, it plays without vdpau
[18:02] <superm1> squegie, you need to make a vdpau profile in tv settings
[18:02] <superm1> it's not made by default (currently)
[18:08] <squegie> ok, i did see something about profiles and displays, but not where to do so
[18:12] <squegie> I looked at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles and http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU#Display_Profiles but do not know where to edit these profiles
[18:12] <squegie> i'm looking under tv settings now
[18:14] <squegie> ok, i found it
[18:15] <squegie> i never go into tv settings because I just use this for video playback
[18:18] <squegie> sweet, got it working!
[20:56]  * hads wonders what 'TFW: Taking a long time to flush..' means
[23:09] <wolfspirit> my card worked fine in mythbuntu 9.04 but in 9.10 it no longer finds any channels when scanning.  it's a pchdtv 5500 but shows up as a 3000
[23:14] <superm1> you might need to install firmware for it
[23:14] <superm1> linux-firmware-nonfree i thinks
[23:39] <hads> Heh, mcc suggests konqueror somehow.
[23:40] <wolfspirit> superm1: after I install that what do I do?  do I just reboot or is there a modprobe command I should run?
[23:48] <superm1> wolfspirit, check if dmesg shows anything about loading that firmware successffully
[23:48] <superm1> if not, reboot


[02:10] <InHisName> Just load up vbox onto linux and put your windows stuff in a guest.
[02:39] <waltman> It looks like my problem was a bug in iMovie -- you can't put quotes in tags when you upload to youtube.
[10:53] <rmg51> Morning
[11:14] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:50] <ChinnoDog> morning--
[11:50] <ChinnoDog> JonathanD: if I have kids will I become a morning person or will it just hurt that much worse?
[11:52]  * JonathanD shrugs.
[11:52] <JonathanD> I know lots of people with kids who still hate mornings :p
[11:53] <ChinnoDog> :-(
[11:53] <ChinnoDog> Kids hate mornings too. Everyone should just be nocturnal until they are 40.
[11:53] <JonathanD> ChinnoDog: if you get used to getting up earlier than you need to, though, you can sleep in if you feel the need without being late :)
[11:53] <ChinnoDog> Yea, working on it. Yuck, 6am
[11:54] <ChinnoDog> eating breakfast now. sourdough waffle and a mango.
[11:54] <ChinnoDog> I was going to get up and excercise but my body laughed at me when I told it that.
[11:55] <JonathanD> :D
[11:56] <ChinnoDog> I need to shift my meals to be earlier again. Big breakfast, medium lunch, light dinner
[11:57] <ChinnoDog> hi jlb181
[11:58] <jlb181> Hi
[12:05] <ChinnoDog> I guess I should take a shower and go to work now
[12:30] <InHisName> I did mine, but no work to go off to.....
[12:31] <jlb181> Same here.
[12:32] <InHisName> Hi jlb181, do anything for Global Jam this weekend?
[12:33] <jlb181> No.  I've been busy with family.  Weekends are like that.
[12:33] <InHisName> Same here with two foster kids just got 5 weeks ago.  Both in diapers and not talking yet.
[12:34] <InHisName> Did manage to 'answer' some unanswered questions for bug jam, though.
[12:35] <jlb181> You know when I was growing up my parents were foster parents!    No, I didn't answer any questions, but I reported a few bugs.
[12:35] <InHisName> kewel
[12:35] <JonathanD> I saw a bug. Outside, in the yard.
[12:36] <InHisName> mine all drowned this weekend
[12:36] <jlb181> So far I haven't had to much trouble with 12.04 beta 1.
[12:37] <jlb181> Except for the installation.
[12:47] <InHisName> b bak l8tr
[15:03] <InHisName> me notes that no one spoke behind his back while he was gone
[15:32] <jedijf> oops we asked for headphones in the wrong channel lolA[A[A[A[A
[15:32] <jedijf> --
[15:32] <jedijf> Jim Fisher
[15:36] <jedijf> don't put paperwork on up arrow
[15:39] <waltman> heh
[15:44] <InHisName> So, did you ever get the headphones for whatever use it really was for?
[16:04] <jedijf> InHisName: yes
[16:05] <jedijf> it was for jam system testing
[17:47] <MutantTurkey> weird thing is whenver i hit my capslock my whole X system freezes
[17:47] <MutantTurkey> well it just stays grabbed
[17:47] <MutantTurkey> it doesnt unfreeze
[17:47] <MutantTurkey> i wonder what x11 task is grabbing it
[18:27] <Sadin> MutantTurkey M-Audios are here ;3
[20:28] <EvilResistance> hello
[20:28] <teddy-dbear> hi


[10:03] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[11:36] <SuperEngineer> Has anybody here got the following scenario happening?
[11:37] <SuperEngineer> Ubuntu 16.04.02,  Chromium browser, tweetdeck in use for twitter,
[11:37] <SuperEngineer> As of thid morning, tweetdeck stuck in some sort of login loop
[11:37] <SuperEngineer> ?
[11:38] <SuperEngineer> [a/c not hacked as twitter site login fully ok, corebird login fully ok
[11:50] <knightwise> morning peeps
[11:51] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[12:40] <knightwise> hey brobostigon how you doin
[12:41] <brobostigon> knightwise: not bad, finalising the next D&D gae in two weeks time, and you?
[13:38] <SuperEngineer> Solved earlier tweetdeck problem.
[13:38] <SuperEngineer> In case anybody ever gets the same... complete chromium removal, bleachbit, reboot. reinstal [
[13:46] <SuperEngineer> [the loss of tweetdewck taught me something useful, however.   Tweetdeck is more configurable & therefore more easy on the eyes than corebird id.
[13:47] <SuperEngineer> *is
[13:50] <penguin42> hell yeh zz
[13:50]  * penguin42 runs top   for the heck of it
[13:51] <Guest30515> can i connect through i2p?
[13:51] <Guest30515> tyring to install it :'(
[13:52] <penguin42> ok, so the only question about that update is why a restart ended up with about 6 instances of pidgin
[13:54] <Guest30515> hmm
[13:59] <SuperEngineer> perhaps calling pidgon "pigged-in" would explain it.... failing that... 1 instance per a/c connected via it?
[14:10] <penguin42> it only did it onto this boot into zz - so not sure why that changed
[14:15] <SuperEngineer> effing work laptop! - everytime I start it, it wants to force me into into another Adobe Shockwave update!
[14:15] <SuperEngineer> I have warned the firm re Shockwave, but to no avail.
[14:15] <SuperEngineer> [it runs Windows btw]
[23:24] <diddledan> norks is playing with matches again: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-39175704
[23:25] <daftykins> silly billys!
[23:52]  * zmoylan-pi is unpacking a micro:bit...
[23:52] <ali1234> what made you want to get one?
[23:53] <zmoylan-pi> i have a few ideas i want to try out with it and they're so so cheap
[23:54] <ali1234> pi zero w is cheaper tho
[23:54] <zmoylan-pi> and if i ever see one around dublin i'll buy it... till then...


[00:04] <likemindead> part
[01:07] <arturorene> hello
[01:08] <arturorene> is this channel engish or spanish
[01:08] <arturorene> anybody here
[01:08] <charlie-tca> Hello, arturorene . this is an english channel.
[01:08] <charlie-tca> !es
[01:08] <charlie-tca> You can use whichever one you want to.
[01:10] <arturorene> I will try english
[01:10] <charlie-tca> okay
[01:10] <arturorene> ok, I have a problem
[01:11] <arturorene> I have a mini-netbook
[01:11] <arturorene> with windows CE
[01:11] <arturorene> I need a linux OS for that
[01:11] <arturorene> I am even not sure about the capacity
[01:12] <charlie-tca> Sounds like a good candidate for either the Ubuntu Netbook edition or Xubuntu.
[01:12] <arturorene> I think is less than 1g
[01:12] <charlie-tca> xubuntu might be too much, though
[01:13] <arturorene> that mini came from china, so maybe could be a fake
[01:13] <charlie-tca> Netbook edition is made for those small machines. It tries to keep the display down for them, too.
[01:13] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/
[01:13] <charlie-tca> hmm, could be a fake.
[01:14] <arturorene> I mean, maybe only have 500 mb
[01:14] <arturorene> but I am not sure
[01:15] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu will work, I think. but I think the netbook edition is better, because of the screen size
[01:15] <arturorene> the only access I have is trough windows CE and I don't trust in what it say
[01:16] <charlie-tca> heh, I don't run windows at all, myself
[01:17] <arturorene> because that mini don't have bios. Do you know where can I find any idea on how to install ubuntu?
[01:18] <charlie-tca> let me look
[01:20] <arturorene> this version of ubuntu run on any procesor?
[01:21] <charlie-tca> any intel processor
[01:21] <charlie-tca> !netbook
[01:22] <arturorene> my is ARM
[01:23] <charlie-tca> Take a look at - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes/es
[01:23] <charlie-tca> I think there is a special version for ARM
[01:26] <arturorene> ok
[01:26] <charlie-tca> That should help you to at least find the right version.
[01:27] <arturorene> thank you so much charlie for all your support and help
[01:27] <charlie-tca> you are welcome. Good luck with that mini.
[01:27] <arturorene> thank you again
[04:30] <rick_> hello?
[04:31] <rick_> i just switched from ubuntu to xubuntu (fresh install), and I dont seem to have permissions on my own computer.
[04:31] <rick_> i'm just trying to adjust swappiness and add themes, but it's not working.  anyone know why?
[04:33] <moetunes> are you using   sudo   ?
[04:34] <rick_> yes
[04:34] <rick_> well no, gksudo
[04:36] <moetunes> are you trying to edit a file - gksudo mousepad /path/to/file
[04:38] <rick_> i'm typing gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:38] <rick_> it's not opening with that command though.  when i navigate to the /etc folder manually i can open the config file, but it won't let me save any changes.
[04:38] <moetunes> gedit doesn't come with xubuntu by default - use mousepad instead :]
[04:38] <rick_> let me try that...
[04:39] <rick_> ah, i'm retarded.  thanks buddy!
[04:40] <moetunes> np :]
[04:41] <rick_> last question....I need to make sure I DO NOT put a # before vm.swappiness=10.  correct?
[04:42] <moetunes> correct in a file like that # is a comment
[04:42] <moetunes> which means the line will be ignored
[04:43] <rick_> done. thanks friend. #xubuntu is much more gentlemanly than #ubuntu.  bit of a madhouse on that side.
[04:43] <rick_> have a good night. i'm off.
[04:43] <moetunes> bye
[06:07] <visitor1> is there a place where programms log? my mathemtica doesnt start anymore, i can see a process in top and it starts in terminal but not the usual way
[06:12] <Sysi> maybe something hidden in your home folder or /var/log/
[06:15] <visitor1> cant find, in var log are a lot of different logs
[06:23] <Balsaq> the dew lay heavy upon the remote rainforest canopy known as...xubuntu!
[06:26] <visitor1> tried booting with the last kernel, doesnt start still
[06:26] <visitor1> strange stuff
[09:48] <Rusty49> Sysi, morning
[09:48] <Rusty49> and any other around
[09:49] <Rusty49> need advice!  the top and bottom panels disappeared in the night - how to replace them?
[09:50] <Sysi> !panels
[09:50] <Rusty49> on the desktpo
[09:50] <Rusty49> desktop
[09:51] <Rusty49> they are back - thanx
[09:51] <Rusty49> it helped :-)
[09:52] <Rusty49> any idea what I did to lose them - so I don't do it again?
[09:55] <Rusty49> Sysi, your reference to '!panels' - what do you refer to?
[09:55] <Sysi> ahem?
[09:55] <Sysi> that's common issue
[09:56] <Sysi> bot knows
[09:56] <Rusty49> ooo
[10:01] <Rusty49> Sysi,  can I call up the discussions I have here - as future reference? can I somehow look it up later?
[10:01] <Rusty49> I have saved this one
[10:01] <Sysi> see message you received after joining
[10:01] <Sysi> or query with bot
[10:03] <Rusty49> I have a lot to learn still - do not understand regarding bot
[10:04] <Sysi> /msg ubottu hi
[10:04] <Rusty49> I wanted yesterdays advice again
[10:05] <Sysi> after joining you got message about logging?
[10:05] <bazhang> !1984
[10:05] <Rusty49> I will show you what I got - if it copies
[10:06] <Sysi> i like that "command"..
[10:06] <Rusty49> no - cannot copy
[10:07] <Rusty49> 1st is topic
[10:07] <Rusty49> then welcome
[10:10] <Rusty49> I hear of logging and understand idea, - I am not english speaking + do not know programming
[10:11] <Rusty49> so I do not know where to go or look
[10:11] <Sysi> !1984 | Rusty49
[10:11] <bazhang> Rusty49, the 1984 link above
[10:12] <Rusty49> sorry - what do I do with the 1984 link above?
[10:12] <Sysi> the past is there
[10:12] <bazhang> read it
[10:13] <Rusty49> how do I access it? I do not understand
[10:14] <bazhang> click the link
[10:14] <Rusty49> OK
[10:14] <bazhang> find #xubuntu channel for the date you wish and read
[10:15] <Rusty49> I see it now - thanx
[10:16] <bazhang> welcome
[10:54] <babar_> Hi
[10:54] <babar_> Anyone there?
[10:59]  * knome is hiding
[10:59] <babar_> Can anyone tell me, how to connect to onther pc on LAN?
[10:59] <knome> which way?
[10:59] <knome> browse files? ssh?
[11:00] <babar_> I want to connect with lan
[11:00] <knome> windows or ubuntu?
[11:00] <babar_> I am new to xubuntu
[11:00] <babar_> ubuntu
[11:01] <babar_> I can do it from lubuntu baut not from xubuntu.
[11:01] <babar_> *but
[11:06] <babar_> Can anyone tell me, how to connect to onther pc on LAN?
[11:11] <TheSheep> babar_: 'connect' in what way?
[11:12] <TheSheep> babar_: you can ssh into it, for example
[11:12] <babar_> I want to browse files
[11:14] <TheSheep> ok, use system->gigolo
[11:15] <babar_> Then
[11:15] <babar_> Then?
[11:15] <TheSheep> switch to the 'network' tab in it, and you should see the computers listed
[11:17] <babar_> I could not find any network tab.
[11:19] <TheSheep> on the left side of the panel
[11:19] <TheSheep> vertical tabs
[11:21] <TheSheep> babar_: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/gigolo.png
[11:27] <babar_> TheSheep: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10152010-042233pm.php
[11:31] <TheSheep> babar_: which xubuntu is it?
[11:31] <babar_> 10.10
[11:31] <TheSheep> enable the side panel with view->side panel
[11:33] <babar_> Oh!
[11:33] <babar_> Thanks. I have got that.
[11:35] <TheSheep> sorry, I have a little non-default settings
[12:24] <Ileden_> How can I install encoding support for MP3 - i would like to convert some files from my ogg music collection to mp3. I've tried sox, ffmpeg, soundconverter, all fail. I've added the medibuntu repositories, and installed lame.
[12:28] <bazhang> sound converter failed?
[12:29] <TheSheep> I think you need the gstreamer-something
[12:29] <TheSheep> !mp3
[13:13] <Ileden> bazhang: soundconverter said "lame" element not found, disabling MP3
[13:13] <bazhang> Ileden, tried installing lame?
[13:14] <Ileden> yes, same message
[13:14] <Ileden> but I'll read through the RestrictedFormats... funny i never encountered that with my googling
[13:14] <bazhang> libmp3lame0  that installed ?
[13:16] <evtl> why my xubuntu did not update to 10.10? :c thought it ask me if i want to?
[13:17] <evtl> (support in german prefered)
[13:17] <evtl> :>
[13:17] <bazhang> !de
[13:17] <evtl> ty
[13:17] <bazhang> check to make sure it does not check for LTS only
[13:18] <Sysi> if your current system works, i recommend staying in it
[13:18] <evtl> it hang up after a few min viewing a video
[13:19] <evtl> :(
[13:19] <evtl> first time i use linux
[13:19] <Ileden> wow, thats pretty bad. and unusual
[13:20] <evtl> that hanging or that i use linux but now
[13:20] <Ileden> bazhang: i'll try installing the whole set from xubuntu-restricted-extras, see if that does the job
[13:20] <Ileden> evtl: hanging :)
[13:20] <evtl> ^^
[13:21] <evtl> where i can check the options for LTS?
[13:21] <bazhang> update-manager?
[13:22] <Ileden> evtl: system->update manager
[13:23] <evtl> think i found it
[13:24] <Ileden> evtl: did that fix the issue? does your system now ask if you want to upgrade to 10.10?
[13:25] <evtl> had to restart
[13:25] <evtl> :(
[13:27] <evtl> yeah found it
[13:29] <evtl> should i install a antivirusprogram? if yes, which?
[13:29] <bazhang> evtl, no need
[13:30] <evtl> but i heard of more virus?
[13:30] <evtl> :x
[13:30] <bazhang> no
[13:31] <evtl> k
[13:32] <Sysi> you basically *can't* get your linux broken/unsafe if you don't browse internet logged in as root and install random software from internet
[13:41] <Ileden> nobody cares to write linux viruses. The platform is more secure so it's harder, and it has minimal amount of users. Compare this to the wide open world of silly windows users who click through any security warning - its just so much worth the effort
[13:41] <Sysi> i'm almost eagerly waiting for first osx-viruses
[13:42] <evtl> ^^
[13:42] <evtl> this is my windows 7 pc :x
[13:42] <Sysi> i have 7 installed but i forgot it often, never using it
[13:42] <Ileden> Nothing (technically) wrong with Windows 7, as long as you know what you're doing.
[13:43] <Sysi> but usability..
[13:43] <evtl> all in all i like win7
[13:43] <bazhang> and DRM..
[13:43] <Ileden> like, not open random attachments, and install whatever programs you encounter from the net
[13:43] <evtl> much more than vista
[13:43] <evtl> and xp
[13:43] <Ileden> bazhang: yes, that's more of an ethical than technical problem.
[13:43] <Sysi> i could use 7, i don't want to
[13:44] <Sysi> Ileden: it can be technical problem
[13:45] <evtl> the main reason for me is, that iam not so ambitious to make alle programs i need run on linux^^
[13:45] <Ileden> Sysi: well, it of course could be if implemented wrong. but as long as it does what's intended, its an ethical problem to me
[13:46] <Ileden> probably the best "security" feature of linux is that software is installed from verified packages via unified package management.
[13:46] <Sysi> i wish DRM worked always as it should
[13:46] <Ileden> Sysi: well, i don't think it's very broken in Win7... thouhg not really an expert on that
[13:47] <Sysi> not very badly i think
[13:47] <Ileden> TheSheep: Hey! thanks for the restrictedformats link, ffmpeg started to work!
[13:48] <Ileden> bazhang: could be what i was missing was the library you suggested, which probably was includedn in the restricteformats package.
[13:48] <bazhang> Ileden, could be
[14:41] <Dortmunter> hi
[14:42] <Dortmunter> what is the minimal ram requested to instalel xubuntu ?
[14:42] <evtl> my laptop has 500
[14:42] <evtl> mb
[14:42] <bazhang> 256?
[14:42] <charlie-tca> and let it work - 256MB for one app at a time
[14:43] <Dortmunter> how would it work with 256?
[14:43] <Dortmunter> ok
[14:43] <charlie-tca> slow
[14:43] <Dortmunter> thanks
[15:27] <willie_> Hello
[15:28] <Guest43297> Hello
[15:31] <likemindead> facepalm.png
[15:42] <evtl> my system crashes after nearly 2min of viewing a video, and idea why?
[15:43] <vidd> evtl, how much ram?
[15:43] <evtl> ~500
[15:43] <vidd> and is it your system or the video play that crashes?
[15:43] <evtl> the system
[15:44] <evtl> freezed screen
[15:44] <vidd> does the data dump tell you anything?
[15:44] <vidd> oh....
[15:44] <vidd> thats not a "chrash"
[15:45] <evtl> now trying VLC
[15:45] <evtl> hm
[15:45] <evtl> crashed after 4 sec
[15:45] <evtl> not crashed <.<
[15:45] <evtl> freezed
[15:45] <vidd> how many applications are you running?
[15:45] <evtl> only the video
[15:46] <evtl> i installed linux a few days ago
[15:46] <vidd> what kind of video are you trying to view?
[15:46] <evtl> and did nothing with it
[15:46] <evtl> .avi
[15:46] <evtl> just updated it
[15:46] <vidd> did you install the .avi plugin for your viewer? (dunno if .avi plugin is installed by default)
[15:46] <evtl> if not i wouldnt be able to view it or?
[15:47] <vidd> i use gxine to view videos because its the lightest player that i found....
[15:48] <vidd> how does your system resources look without the video player running?
[15:49] <evtl> where can i see it with linux?
[15:49] <vidd> applications->system->system monitor
[15:50] <evtl> only one proces sis running
[15:50] <evtl> the system monitor^^
[15:50] <evtl> ~15-20%
[15:50] <vidd> i dont care about that....
[15:51] <vidd> on the resouces tab....
[15:51] <vidd> memory and swap
[15:51] <evtl> 32,2% 150/465
[15:51] <evtl> swap 0/1,3GB
[15:52] <vidd> memory is at 32%
[15:52] <evtl> yes
[15:53] <vidd> now...launch your video player (dont select the video to play, just open the player)
[15:53] <evtl> 34%
[15:53] <evtl> with VLC 33,5%
[15:54] <vidd> run the video in windowed mode (not fullscreen)
[15:54] <evtl> 46%
[15:55] <vidd> and is it freezing?
[15:55] <evtl> not yet
[15:56] <evtl> runs longer then before
[15:56] <evtl> than*
[15:57] <vidd> i always have better video experience on light-weight machines running windowed mode over fullscreen
[15:57] <vidd> heh...all i have are light-weight machines =]
[15:58] <vidd> you may also want to look at the CPU section of your system monitor for spikes there
[15:59] <evtl> spikes?
[15:59] <vidd> ummm....
[16:00] <vidd> spikes are when the usage jumps high
[16:00] <evtl> are
[16:00] <evtl> a
[16:00] <evtl> ahh
[16:00] <evtl> ^^
[16:00] <evtl> now it works
[16:00] <evtl> hmm
[16:03] <vidd> were you watching in fullscreen b4?
[16:04] <evtl> no
[16:04] <evtl> i'll do it if iam able to see the whole film now
[16:04] <evtl> to test
[16:07] <vidd> then its the "tech phenomenon" ....
[16:07] <vidd> everything works while the tech is there =]
[16:07] <evtl> hmm
[16:07] <evtl> freezed
[16:07] <evtl> 10:27min
[16:08] <vidd> ok....
[16:08] <vidd> what did system monitor show
[16:08] <evtl> nothing special
[16:08] <evtl> like before
[16:08] <vidd> and was it the whole screen that froze or the video that froze?
[16:09] <evtl> the system freezes
[16:09] <evtl> cant move the mouse
[16:09] <vidd> it could be a bad file
[16:09] <evtl> the video?
[16:10] <vidd> right
[16:10] <evtl> i watched different videos
[16:10] <evtl> and on this computer inwatched them
[16:10] <evtl> and it worked
[16:11] <vidd> so on this system, no issues...and on the problem machine all videos freeze?
[16:11] <evtl> yes
[16:11] <evtl> all .avi
[16:11] <evtl> youtube works
[16:11] <vidd> or just this one vid
[16:11] <evtl> (but laggy)
[16:11] <vidd> youtube is flv
[16:12] <vidd> different file type
[16:12] <vidd> !avi
[16:13] <evtl> maybe i find some .flv
[16:13] <evtl> ill try it
[16:13] <evtl> .mpg
[16:20] <evtl> .mpg feezes too
[16:24] <vidd> evtl, dunno what to say....
[16:25] <evtl> ?
[16:25] <evtl> coz im stupid or dunnoi how to help me with the problem?
[16:25] <vidd> dunno what to do to fix issue
[16:26] <evtl> ^^
[16:26] <evtl> maybe another linux version?
[16:26] <vidd> they "it works" system...what OS is on it?
[16:26] <evtl> win7^^
[16:27] <vidd> ok
[16:27] <vidd> so it probably is a plugin issue
[16:27] <evtl> with avi & mpg
[16:27] <evtl> ?
[16:27] <vidd> i dont know how to install the plugins for the video players you use....
[16:28] <evtl> ^^
[16:28] <vidd> i use gxine and libxine plugins and have no problems
[16:28] <vidd> but "standard" *buntu use gstreamer plugins
[16:28] <evtl> i searched for gxine but found no exe :x
[16:28] <evtl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gxine
[16:28] <evtl> ?
[16:29] <chowder> I want to create a custom session that shows up everytime I log in. I installed gnome-shell and I'd basically like to be able to choose between a "gnome-shell session" and an xfce session
[16:30] <chowder> I want to use gnome-shell as my window manager but I'd like to keep using thunar and my existing program
[16:30] <chowder> sorry, mistyped
[16:30] <chowder> does anyone have any advice?
[16:31] <vidd> "sudo apt-get install gxine"
[16:33] <vidd> and "sudo apt-get install libxine1-all-plugins
[16:34] <vidd> evtl, you may need to add universe and multiverse sources
[16:35] <vidd> evtl, as an aside...windows OS's dont play most video codex out-of-the-box either
[16:42] <evtl> so
[16:42] <evtl> now gxine
[16:43] <evtl> :(
[16:43] <evtl> freezing
[16:44] <vidd> evtl, now im REALLY at a loss
[16:45] <evtl> "you may need to add universe and multiverse sources"
[16:45] <evtl> i didnt do it
[16:45] <evtl> maybe it helps?
[16:45] <vidd> no....
[16:45] <evtl> hm :/
[16:45] <evtl> maybe i should try another distribution?
[16:45] <vidd> those sources are for getting applications not in the "main" repos
[16:46] <vidd> evtl, im suspecting the files may be at cause
[16:46] <vidd> you can try another distribution, but i suspect you will have the same issues
[16:46] <Sysi> in a what way it freezes, what graphics card?
[16:47] <evtl> just a freezed screen
[16:47] <Sysi> nothing moves?
[16:47] <evtl> i tried 5 vids
[16:47] <evtl> nothing
[16:48] <Sysi> something on ~/.xsession-errors ?
[16:49] <evtl> where i find that?
[16:49] <TheSheep> in your home directory
[16:49] <TheSheep> it's a file
[16:50] <Sysi> ~/ for home
[16:50] <evtl> there is just the userfolder
[16:52] <vidd> evtl, click "view" "show hidden"
[16:52] <evtl> yeah, nothing^^
[16:52] <evtl> ah
[16:52] <evtl> in the userfolder
[16:52] <evtl> :>
[16:53] <evtl> xsession-errors.old
[16:53] <evtl> do u want it?
[16:54] <Sysi> you could pastebin it
[16:54] <evtl> i do it
[16:55] <evtl> http://nopaste.info/2846c9fc13.html
[16:57] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek next session in 4 minutes -
[16:57] <charlie-tca> session is "Have you tried turning it off and then on again?"
[16:57] <charlie-tca> This should be a great session!
[17:04] <Sysi> evtl: i can't see exact problem, but lots of warnings
[17:07] <evtl> :/
[17:21] <xubuntu385> привет всем!
[17:21] <Sysi> !ru
[17:22] <vidd> Sysi, your ability to recognize languages amazes me =]
[17:22] <Sysi> :D
[17:23] <charlie-tca> me too
[20:04] <saul> Hi is anyone here that can help me with some problems I am having with my xubuntu?
[20:05] <charlie-tca> !anyone
[20:06] <Sysi> all of us.
[20:07] <saul> ok I can not get the log in and log out sound to work on my Dell laptop can you tell me where I go to enable log in sounds? I already have gone to the log in screen properties and ticked the box that says enable log in sounds but still it is silent when I start up xubuntu
[20:10] <saul> Also can you tell me where I would go to find where you can select even sounds like the error wave or any other wave or ogg sound event files?
[20:17] <saul> guess not
[21:23] <aubrey616> i verified a problem with 10.10 in #ubuntu, the wireless driver ath9k for atheros wireless pci is somewhat faulty
[21:23] <aubrey616> anyone else recognized this problem ?
[23:02] <Sivarts> I have a problem: My computer has onboard intel video and I want to use a pci nvidia card -- problem is bios doesn't let you disable onboard, but lets you set the priority of PCI card to be higher - this results in a kernel panic crash when I try to boot any kind of linux because it sees both cards. How can I make it only see my PCI card and not my onboard?
[23:06] <Sysi> maybe if you blacklisted intel driver(s)
[23:07] <Sivarts> Sysi so my understanding is install Xubuntu with onboard, blacklist intel?, put in new video card, switch bios to make video card higher priority and boot up with monitor connected to new card?
[23:07] <Sivarts> do I need to install any nvidia drivers before I put in the card?
[23:07] <Sivarts> and what module do I blacklist, I tried intel_agp and that didn't seem todo it
[23:09] <Sysi> nvidia should work somewhat well by default
[23:10] <Sysi> you could maybe somehow see from livecd what driver is used
[23:10] <Sivarts> kk any idea how to tell?
[23:31] <Sysi> i really don't know, but after thinking, something with modprobe or lsof might work like that


[01:18] <furkan> tjaalton: dave sent out a patch
[01:19] <furkan> https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2016-March/049102.html
[04:31] <tjaalton> oh, nice
[05:38] <furkan> tjaalton: also, it looks like we will be getting a 1.18.3 pretty soon lol
[05:38] <tjaalton> maybe so
[05:38] <furkan> according to dave
[05:38] <furkan> since there were too many regressions in 1.18.2
[05:38] <tjaalton> said where?
[05:39] <furkan> 22:59	<furkan>	are all these regressions normal for a point release?
[05:39] <furkan> 23:00	<furkan>	i think we need <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[05:39] <furkan> 23:00	<airlied>	yeah ajax will probably do a 1.18.3 farily quick
[05:39] <furkan> 23:01	<MrCooper>	no, I think ajax went overboard with 1.18.2, I'll follow up on his release announcement
[05:39] <tjaalton> ok
[05:40] <furkan> i noticed a 3rd regression when posting my log file for the cursor bug
[05:40] <furkan> and MrCooper linked a fix for it lol
[05:40] <tjaalton> yeah that one I knew about
[08:23] <jcristau> furkan: for a point release that includes so many changes, it's not surprising
[18:17] <Free99> hey all, I'm running 14.04 x64 on i915, upgraded to kernel 4.4 because of hardware enablement but this messed up my ability to dual screen
[18:17] <Free99> would xorg-edgers help?
[18:19] <furkan> Free99: i don't know the answer to your question, but i'd recommend x-staging over xorg-edgers
[18:19] <Free99> furkan, last update was 119 weeks agon on staging..
[18:20] <furkan> oh right, forgot you're using trusty
[18:20] <furkan> for xenial it's up to date
[18:21] <furkan> actually, xenial is the only repo i see available https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/ubuntu/x-staging
[18:21] <Free99> how can I grab their X stack?
[18:22] <furkan> maybe you should just upgrade to 16.04 :)
[18:23] <furkan> if you want latest kernel/X
[18:23] <Free99> yeah, but I have school work for which I need a working tablet.. crazy as this sounds, I'm less afriad of upgraded kernel/X on 14.04 than jumping to RC16.04
[18:24] <furkan> does dual screen work when you boot up into an older kernel?
[18:25] <Free99> yep, but then my tablet stops functioning
[18:26] <furkan> if you want to help fix the bug... i'd recommend doing a bisect
[18:26] <Free99> ok, I wouldn't mind helping out
[18:26] <Free99> I don't have too much time though, maybe half an hour
[18:27] <furkan> it would take longer than that, but that's something you'd do if it really was a bug
[18:28] <furkan> it might help to see your dmesg and Xorg logs
[18:28] <furkan> after the problem happens of course
[18:29] <furkan> also, what GPU? intel?
[18:29] <Free99> problem is pretty simple actually, xrandr on kernel 3.13 shows my external displayport display connected just fine
[18:29] <Free99> kernel 3.19+ it stops showing up, but udev still detects when I dis/connect it
[18:29] <Free99> intel yeah
[18:30] <Free99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15403452/ <- Xorg.0.log on 4.4 kernel
[18:31] <Free99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15403475/ <- xrandr output (I tried forcing my mode, so ignore those extaneous lines)
[18:36] <Free99> anything obviously screwy?
[18:39] <furkan> nothing that i can make out unfortunately, but your X version is really, really old
[18:39] <Free99> ;) LTS baby!!!
[18:39] <furkan> you should run this:
[18:40] <furkan> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[18:40] <furkan> that should give you 4.2 kernel and xorg 1.17
[18:41] <Free99> furkan, you rock man (or lady) thank you!
[18:41] <Free99> sudo service lightdm is adequate for reloading the graphics stack without rebooting? or should I reboot
[18:44] <tjaalton> best to reboot
[18:44] <tjaalton> actually
[18:45] <tjaalton> where did you get the 4.4 kernel?
[18:46] <furkan> Free99: np, hope it does something useful
[18:53] <furkan> tjaalton: do you ever run X in gdb?
[18:58] <Free99> furkan, it worked!
[18:58] <furkan> nice :)
[18:59] <Free99> tjaalton, apt-get install linux-generic-lts-xenial
[18:59] <furkan> oh that's actually been released?
[18:59] <Free99> but I've been trying to get towards compiling my own kernel with grsec patches
[19:00] <tjaalton> Free99: did it also install linux-image-extra-4.4..
[19:00] <Free99> tjaalton, thanks for your work on X, I see you do a lot of these packages
[19:00] <tjaalton> guess it did
[19:00] <Free99> actually no
[19:00] <furkan> i'm running 14.04 on my laptop
[19:00] <furkan> and looks like it's there
[19:01] <furkan> linux-generic-lts-xenial linux-headers-4.4.0-13 linux-headers-4.4.0-13-generic linux-headers-generic-lts-xenial linux-image-4.4.0-13-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-13-generic linux-image-generic-lts-xenial
[19:02] <furkan> first time i've seen a linux-generic-lts-* come out before the actual release
[19:02] <Free99> tjaalton, I've been stuck making a udev rule which detects when I boot/resume with my monitor connected and sends part of my X display to the right of the eDP1... any thoughts on including that in standard LTS?
[19:02] <Free99> I'm emulating windows in a sense, boot with multiple displays and they default to being expansions of the regular desktop
[19:03] <tjaalton> Free99: so did not install the -extra package? no wonder it failed then, because you didn't have i915.ko
[19:03] <Free99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15403452/ <- Xorg.0.log on 4.4
[19:04] <tjaalton> nevermind, it's using intel so i915.ko is there
[19:04] <furkan> so Free99 are you still running 4.4 now?
[19:04] <furkan> or 4.2?
[19:05] <Free99> nope, jumped to 4.2 per furkan's help
[19:05] <Free99> oh, hi furkan. Thought that was tjaalton writing me
[19:05] <furkan> i wonder if 4.4 works now that you have the newer X (unless you didn't install that)
[19:05] <Free99> I didn't have a newer X.. maybe 4.4 would work. I can try later tonight
[19:07] <Free99> still having a weird issue with this X stack where if I boot with the monitor connected, plymouth and etc are cloned on both monitors, but once I login, the display turns off on my laptop and all content goes to the external monitor
[19:08] <Free99> if I run my script which sets xrandr --auto and then xrandr --output DP2 --right-of eDP1, I lose output on everything
[19:08] <Free99> I have to switch to tty1 and restart lightdm, but only after disconnecting and reconnecting the external display
[19:08] <Free99> then stuff works pretty well


 You missed a good conversation on #wikipedia-ar :D
[15:30] <elacheche> Take a look → https://twitter.com/elacheche/status/603870459386601472
[15:31] <Helmoony_> elacheche, hahahahaha really funny
[15:32] <elacheche> Like this → http://www.slideshare.net/helmoony
[15:32] <Helmoony_> elacheche, I'm trying to activate the channel by bots, inform of the recent changes in wiki-ar
[15:32] <elacheche> Nice :)
[15:33] <Helmoony_> elacheche, y3aychik... It was a good conference in Monastir
[15:34] <elacheche> :)


[09:36] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Loosen Up, Lighten Up Day! :-D
[09:38]  * Spads ✁☹
[09:40] <JamesTait> OK, Spads, I give up. What is that?
[09:41] <JamesTait> Looks like a face with a pair of scissors stuck in it.
[09:54] <Spads> JamesTait: Best I could do within the BMP
[09:58] <JamesTait> Spads, as in "Loosen up, lighen up, man." *stab* ?
[10:04] <Spads> yep!


[07:01] <Guest17166> hello
[07:08] <Guest17166>  hello?
[07:36] <raintheory> Anyone here familiar with wineasio?
[07:43] <raintheory> ello?
[13:45] <eein_> morning
[13:46] <eein_> how much configuration is required for jack to work on studio?
[14:48] <mighty_aboba> Hi
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> I made scripts to launch jackd with the different configurations
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> And bint it to hotkeys
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> And it is beautiful
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> :)
[14:52] <mighty_aboba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1037336/
[15:30] <ubuntu-studio> hi guys
[15:30] <ubuntu-studio> installed xfce 4.10
[15:31] <ubuntu-studio> someone?
[15:31] <ubuntu-studio> this stable ?
[15:32] <holstein> xfce4-10: from the repos?
[15:33] <xfce4-10> not yet installed
[15:33] <xfce4-10> holstein: I'm waiting for a feed back on who installed it.
[15:34] <holstein> xfce4-10: you can ask in #xubuntu.. the word i have is use whats in the repos, or you are on your own
[15:34] <holstein> there is a PPA for the latest, but i dont use it
[15:34] <holstein> if there is something you desparately need, go for it, otherwise.. i say stick with the default
[15:35] <xfce4-10> holstein: ok you this official repo?
[15:36] <xfce4-10> I will use it as a curiosity, the short-xfce =)
[15:36] <holstein> xfce4-10: i just searched for it once.. *all* ppas' can only be so official
[15:37] <xfce4-10> ok sir, thanks for listening.
[15:38] <holstein> xfce4-10: anytime... for GUI question like that, feel free to get the finaly answer from the good folks in #xubuntu :)
[15:40] <xfce4-10> let's see if I relive a ghost there to answer me. =)
[15:54] <Guest40838> hey guys daft simple question but im trying to restore the social notifcation icon thats located near the clock on the top right, any hints on how to do this please?
[15:55] <holstein> Wulfyuk: in XFCE?
[15:55] <holstein> i would load up a live CD, and see what is in the panel
[15:55] <Wulfyuk> holstein, i think so if thats the default desktop for us 12.04
[15:55] <holstein> i would make a new user, or login in the guest account and see what is in the panel
[15:55] <Wulfyuk> good idea lets see if that works :)
[15:56] <holstein> i would literally add everything to a "test" panel and see what it what
[15:56] <Wulfyuk> never allow kids near your when your trying to work
[15:56] <holstein> i remember doing that in gnome2
[15:56] <holstein> Wulfyuk: you can also ask in #xubuntu if you dont get the answer you are looking for here
[15:56] <holstein> i gotta run.. but we'll get you sorted out Wulfyuk :)
[15:56] <Wulfyuk> thanks holstein  much appreciated
[15:56] <holstein> Wulfyuk: i think its going to have "notification" in the title
[15:56] <Wulfyuk> certainly my best experiance with a linux support channel so far :D
[15:57] <Wulfyuk> ussualy its rtfm
[15:57] <holstein> i dont have XFCE running in front of me at the moment or id just check for you :)
[15:57] <Wulfyuk> no worrys im just getting used to this im really enjoying it over the mainstream os interfaces
[15:57] <Wulfyuk> no nasty gnome 3 etc
[15:58] <Wulfyuk> and its defiantly got everything i need to carry out most tasks i do :)
[16:00] <Wulfyuk> thanks it was the indicator plugin :) sorted thank you :)
[16:01] <GhstWlf> How can I get mu soundblaster audigy (CA0106) to work with jack?
[16:24] <eein_> ugh i don't know how to get my sound correct with a m-audio 1010lt card
[16:25] <eein_> i can hear sound and the inputs are right but i cant seem to control it as i would assume i could
[16:28] <vlt> eein_: Tried alsamixer?
[16:29] <eein_> actually im using mudita24
[16:29] <eein_> vlt: ^ supposedly it is better for m-audio cards
[16:30] <eein_> http://pastebin.com/tcZ9zt8t   my asoundrc file
[16:36] <eein_> currently my biggest issue is i'm not sure how to address channels
[16:36] <eein_> card 0: M1010LT [M Audio Delta 1010LT], device 0: ICE1712 multi [ICE1712 multi]
[16:36] <eein_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[16:36] <eein_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[16:37] <eein_> does that mean its hw:0,0
[16:39] <eein_> im trying to setup darkice to stream, i put in device=hw:0,0 in my config but when calling that config it just returns to prompt DarkIce: DarkIceConfig.cpp:137: no current section [0]
[16:39] <vlt> eein_: hmmm, should be, yes.
[16:39] <eein_> my question is if i have my input on 3/4 does hw:0,0 just mean look for anything on all channels?
[17:51] <holstein> eein_: those labels can change or jump from reboots
[17:51] <holstein> eein_: you should try and catch someone like pipemanmusic in #opensourcemusicians who has that hardware
[17:52] <eein_> holstein: its my only card, i disabled the onboard
[17:53] <holstein> eein_: should "just work" then.. its been well supporteed AFAIK
[17:54] <eein_> it does work...kinda, i'm having difficulty in programs selecting which input is "the input"
[17:55] <ailo> I don't know darkice. What audio system do you use with it?
[17:55] <ailo> PA, jack, alsa..?
[17:55] <ailo> I have the 1010LT, as well as a Delta 66
[17:55] <eein_> i installed jack but couldnt figured it, right now i just have alsa, pulse was a disaster
[17:55] <ailo> Why was pulse a disaster?
[17:56] <eein_> i could hear line inputs even when things were muted and other oddities
[17:56] <ailo> Like inputs from your card?
[17:56] <eein_> my alsamixer was all muted could still hear distorted line 3/4
[17:56] <eein_> yeah
[17:56] <eein_> removed pulse and no more
[17:57] <eein_> ailo: what audio system are you using
[17:57] <ailo> I use PA and when I use jack apps, I start jack. I don't have any problems
[17:58] <holstein> i would use JACK or pavucontrol
[17:58] <holstein> pavucontrol is going to nned pulse, and you can try that from the live CD
[17:58] <holstein> need*
[17:58] <eein_> what are jack apps
[17:58] <holstein> if you dont need JACK, dont use it
[17:59] <eein_> holstein: i had tried pavucontrol as a first step to troubleshooting but couldnt get it to show why there was a bleed from 3/4
[18:00] <holstein> eein_: i would also think that could be hardware crosstalk
[18:00] <ailo> eein_: PA doesn't control the volume to the delta devices
[18:00] <eein_> right now alsa with the envy24 / mudita24 seems to be working, i just cant seem to do things like get banshee to stop using output 1/2
[18:00] <ailo> eein_: mudita24 or alsamixer can do that
[18:00] <eein_> holstein: well no issues in windows and no more bleed when blowing PA out
[18:01] <holstein> you cant compare the drivers though.. the windows ones and the alsa ones
[18:01] <holstein> its not fair, or accurate.. or relevant for that matter
[18:01] <ailo> eein_: PA only controls the "Main" volume, which is a software volume
[18:01] <ailo> PA uses alsa as it's base
[18:01] <holstein> yeah, the driver support will be the same
[18:01] <ailo> But, has a custom insterface
[18:02] <eein_> ailo: well i dont see how i assign banshee to use 5/6 as example using mudita24
[18:02] <holstein> eein_: i dont think you easily can
[18:02] <holstein> thats not what pulse or alsa is expecting
[18:02] <eein_> :-( as an example in windows i can click on audio control and set which is default
[18:03] <eein_> nothing similar?
[18:03] <ailo> eein_: If you use alsa, you can create a custom configuration for it.
[18:04] <ailo> something like .asoundrc in the home dir
[18:04] <ailo> Or, alsa.conf somewhere in /etc
[18:04] <eein_> ailo: http://pastebin.com/tcZ9zt8t
[18:04] <eein_> thats my asoundrc
[18:05] <eein_> but i dont see how that lets me select which output is defailt
[18:07] <eein_> so basically what i want is to have 1/2 out to a set of speakers and 5/6 out to my dj mixer
[18:07] <eein_> i want to switch which one is the output
[18:07] <holstein> yeah... not an easy way to do that in alsa
[18:07] <holstein> pavucontrol *might* offer some of that
[18:07] <holstein> JACK is the tool you'd probably want to seek out
[18:08] <holstein> you can have routing like that in a GUI
[18:08] <ailo> With PA you can set the card to be used as a multichannel card, but it's not very practical for that kind of thing, since there's only configs like 5.1 6.1, etc
[18:08] <holstein> yeah... its not like "use the 2nd 2 stereo outs for this application"
[18:08] <ailo> Surely it's possible to make custom PA configs as well
[18:08] <holstein> you would think.. its all open afterall
[18:09] <ailo> jack is the best option, if the applications support it
[18:09] <ailo> Not all do
[18:09] <ailo> But, jack + PA bridge would solve all those problems
[18:09] <ailo> It might be the best way
[18:09] <ailo> qjackctl can save preferred connections
[18:10] <ailo> in profiles
[18:10] <ailo> You can switch between them
[18:10] <ailo> eein_: I recommend using PA + jack. It's the easiest way by far. You can connect any which way you want
[18:11] <holstein> latency is not an issue either in this setup
[18:11] <eein_> ok well i have jack
[18:11] <ailo> You'll need PA too
[18:11] <ailo> If you want to connect between applications that don't have support for jack, and your audio device
[18:11] <eein_> but alsa is already working, i would think jack could work with alsa
[18:11] <ailo> jack uses alsa as it's driver, but not all applications support jack
[18:12] <ailo> But you can connect PA with jack, which solves that problem
[18:12] <ailo> With PA+jack you get access to all possible applications and connectability
[18:12] <ailo> jack applications can connect to any output separately
[18:13] <ailo> vlc has jack support, as has some other media players
[18:13] <eein_> well i dont see how i use jack
[18:14] <eein_> i assume i make a patch bay, using the qjackctrl frontend
[18:14] <ailo> Yeah
[18:14] <ailo> You'll need pulseaudio-module-jack to make PA connectable to jack
[18:14] <ailo> you need jackd2, and qjackctl needs to be set with dbus support
[18:14] <ailo> I assume you are on 12.04?
[18:15] <eein_> no running mint right now, i grabbed the 12.04 studio iso but cant install just yet
[18:15] <ailo> When you start jack, PA will show up in jack connections
[18:16] <ailo> Applications that support jack, you can set to use jack in their respective preferences. VLC needs an addon to use jack, as does some other applications (installable from the repo)
[18:17] <ailo> Jack will command the card, while PA will just be like any other jack program
[18:18] <eein_> i still dont see how i can change which out is out on jack
[18:19] <ailo> eein_: When you start jack, look in "Connect"
[18:19] <ailo> All inputs and outputs appear there separately
[18:19] <ailo> You make connections manually, or create custom profiles in "Patchbay"
[18:20] <ailo> You won't see any outputs or inputs until jack is started
[18:20] <ailo> eein_: With jack you get a lot more than a "default" output
[18:22] <ailo> eein_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204#The_Pulse_Audio_to_Jack_Bridge_-_using_both_at_once
[18:23] <ailo> This is on Ubuntu 12.04, so if your Mint is older, it may not work like this (I never bothered using the bridge before 12.04)


[09:09] <mantiena> SteveA: hi
[09:30] <mantiena> doko: hi
[09:49] <clsk> Are there plans to add support for tasks? Or to mark bugs as tasks instead of simple bugs?
[09:55] <wgrant> clsk: What's the difference?
[09:56] <clsk> well a bug is a problem in the software. A task is something that needs to be done (not necessarily a fix to something).
[10:05] <SteveA> mantiena: hi
[10:14] <bostik> hi all
[10:25]  * mtaylor is away: I'm not here right now
[10:25] <mantiena> hi bostik
[10:56] <emgent> morning
[12:03] <Hobbsee> how do i show builds of "all states", but in reverse chronological order (newest first) of https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/rothera/+history?build_text=&build_state=built ?
[12:03]  * Hobbsee also wonders why rothera fell over again
[12:04] <Hobbsee> i wish i could see who'd made the status change, or something
[12:37] <wgrant> Hobbsee: I was wondering that myself earlier, and opened a Soyuz +filebug, but YouTube crashed Firefox.
[12:37] <wgrant> And then forgot about it.
[12:39] <Hobbsee> wgrant: i filed it earlier, was just wondering if there was a workaround
[12:40] <wgrant> Ah. I don't believe so.
[12:40] <wgrant> One size fits all.
[12:40] <Hobbsee> darn.
[13:03] <glatzor> hello danilos, will there be some rosetta-devs at uds prague?
[13:04] <danilos> glatzor: hi, not that I know of
[13:04] <danilos> glatzor: check with jtv (once he's around), though
[13:40] <pgquiles__> PPA question: is it possible to copy packages from the official distribution (not from a PPA) to my PPA? how?
[13:41] <jamesh> don't know.
[13:42] <Hobbsee> don't think so
[13:42] <jamesh> is this to do a rebuild for a different release?
[13:42] <Hobbsee> why would you?
[13:42] <Hobbsee> ah yes, for a backport
[13:42] <pgquiles__> Hobbsee: for example to build a hardy package for gutsy
[13:43] <Hobbsee> it would have to be rebuilt anyway, just for the older deps
[13:43] <Hobbsee> but, i don't think so
[13:43] <pgquiles__> btw, it seems that gutsy-backports is not available to the PPA builders, I just got a build failure due to tcl8.5 available in gutsy-backports but the PPA autobuilder says it's not available
[13:44] <Hobbsee> yes, you can only build for the release.
[13:44] <Hobbsee> not backports, not updates.
[13:46] <pgquiles__> and given that I cannot copy from official distribution to PPA, I need to download the source, debuild, etc :-/
[13:47] <wgrant> Or request a backport...
[13:49] <pgquiles__> wgrant: there is a backport but the PPA builders cannot access -backports packages
[13:52] <wgrant> pgquiles__: I meant an official backport.
[13:52] <wgrant> As official as backports are.
[14:14] <gnomefreak> build it for gutsy see if it works in gutsy than worry about backporting it as in change the version to match backports and change target spin and poof
[14:22] <pgquiles__> wgrant: if you mean a package in gutsy-backports, that's exactly what I meant when I said "there is a backport"
[14:50] <stdin> pgquiles__: it's a pain, but yes, you have to apt-get source it, add something like ~ppa1 to the release and build it on your PPA
[14:52] <stdin> and make sure your package are set to build from the PPA version (as it will be lower than the one in -backports)
[16:17] <mohbana> hi guys
[16:17] <Hobbsee> heya
[16:17] <mohbana> i am just wondering can you integrate launchpad with eclipse, like as in use the myln task thing for bugzilla
[16:23] <mohbana> hi did anyone get my emssage?
[16:24] <Hobbsee> yes, but i suspect no one knows
[16:24] <Hobbsee> launchpad doesn't really have api's - but bzr might
[16:29] <beuno> bzr does
[16:29] <beuno> there is a bzr plugin for eclipse
[16:30] <beuno> but I don't think it does what mohbana wants  :)
[16:32] <mohbana> somethng like this; http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/images/mylyn-2.0.png
[16:37] <patrys> hi, anyone knows how to properly escalate launchpad questions?
[16:38] <patrys> I mean get "launchpad itself" questions answered
[16:41] <Hobbsee> patrys: poke kiko or SteveA
[16:41] <jamesh> what's the question?
[16:42] <patrys> two regarding PLD Linux migration
[16:43] <patrys> we want to fully migrate to LP but are still waiting for 1) bugzilla import 2) having distroseries configured
[16:44] <mohbana> anyone?
[16:44] <jamesh> I need to pass on some info to the others for the bugzilla migration bits
[16:44] <patrys> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/29546 is the bugzilla related one
[16:44] <beuno> mohbana, you'll need to wait for LP to rollout an API to get something like that done
[16:44] <patrys> and https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/29548 for distroseries
[16:45] <jamesh> I'm not sure how well we'd handle distros with different package naming though
[16:45] <mohbana> beuno: anytime soon?
[16:45] <patrys> jamesh: or distros that use rpm packages and thus can't upload any sources :)
[16:46] <jamesh> mohbana: there is work underway to add the kind of web services needed to implement that kind of thing.
[16:46] <beuno> mohbana, I don't really know when  :)
[16:46] <jamesh> patrys: right.  The package selection for distro bugs is linked to the records of the packages published for the distro
[16:47] <patrys> jamesh: a simple option "we don't use LP for releases, allow any package names" would be enough
[16:48] <patrys> jamesh: we had to patch apport not to include package names for that reason
[16:48] <jamesh> I've only ever imported one distribution into LP, and that was Ubuntu
[16:49] <patrys> jamesh: and that's the distro LP was built around :)
[16:50] <jamesh> well, the distro side of Launchpad was certainly modeled around Ubuntu
[16:50] <jamesh> but we've had support for upstream projects since day one.
[16:51] <patrys> I really like lunchpad (well, I hate the code tab but that's because it's often the only way people release)
[16:51] <patrys> so we'll gladly serve as guinea pigs here
[17:02] <patrys> the question remains, how do I reach someone with enough power to help with the requests?
[17:03] <patrys> I don't think reposting same questions over and over again is a good idea
[22:52] <Arby> I'm attempting to upload packages to my ppa without success,
[22:52] <Arby> I keep getting MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[22:53] <Arby> any suggestions what I might be doing wrong
[22:54] <Arby> the command I used was
[22:54] <Arby> dput my-ppa koffice_1.6.3-5ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes
[22:55] <wgrant> Arby: Make sure you're not uploading a different orig.tar.gz to the one in Ubuntu, if it has the same version.
[22:56] <Arby> the orig.tar.gz I have is  koffice_1.6.3.orig.tar.gz
[22:56] <Arby> is that wrong?
[22:57] <wgrant> If it has a different md5sum, yes.
[22:58] <Arby> ok thanks