[01:22] <bob2> Antinomy: define "freezes"
[01:22] <hhurtta> phixion: and also get rid of the apt-installed azureus if you haven't already
[01:22] <xliu> thanks bob2
[01:22] <phixion> yeah :)
[01:22] <tanki> bob, too late the damage is done
[01:22] <tanki> :)
[01:23] <Antinomy> bob2: I see the splash screen and the login box for user name. cursor flashes in there, but no input is accepted. THen cursor stops flashing. then after 5 minutes, the screen blanks out. the mouse pointer never moves throughout
[01:23] <Antinomy> bob2: loading from grub
[01:23] <bob2> Antinomy: does wiggling the mouse or hitting the kyboard wake up the monitor?
[01:23] <bob2> sure your hardware is ok?
[01:24] <Antinomy> no, not at all
[01:24] <Antinomy> bob2: no
[01:24] <tanki> just remember to stop hitting the keyboard
[01:24] <Antinomy> bob2: touchpad
[01:24] <tanki> :)
[01:24] <linuxboy> anybody help me ?
[01:24] <xoz> Antinomy: try boot in single-user
[01:24] <Antinomy> xoz: what does that mean?
[01:25] <xoz> Antinomy: init 1... pass S (single-user) in the ubuntu bootprompt.
[01:25] <Antinomy> xoz: in grub?
[01:26] <xoz> Antinomy: yep.
[01:26] <Antinomy> xoz: one sec...is that an option I can select?
[01:26] <tanki> i personally like the fonzi approach, wiggle the mouse and hit the keyboard until things work
[01:26] <omer> Hello
[01:26] <Antinomy> xoz: I have 3 kernels listed
[01:26] <Antinomy> xoz: and Winblows
[01:27] <xoz> Antinomy: maybe no. you have to go to the edit mode and pass that parameter
[01:27] <zerboxx> I'm having a really tough time getting my palm pilot to work, can anyone give me a hand please?
[01:27] <Antinomy> xoz: how do I do that? do you know?
[01:27] <omer> Can you help me with ATI tv card?
[01:27] <Antinomy> xoz: 'c' for command line?
[01:28] <xoz> Antinomy: in grub prompt, maybe e or c
[01:28] <tanki> tv-out means you can export your display/desktop to a television set right?
[01:28] <Antinomy> xoz: Ok, I'm at the grub commant line
[01:28] <tanki> or can it only go to an external monitor?
[01:28] <xoz> Antinomy: if your kernel name is ubuntu... use ubuntu S
[01:28] <tanki> do you know what i mean, omer
[01:28] <Antinomy> xoz: I'm at the command line. How do I use Ubuntu S?
[01:29] <xoz> Antinomy: you should know the name of your kernel to boot. <kernel name> S <return>
[01:30] <xoz> Antinomy: *[enter|return]
[01:30] <omer> It not TV out
[01:30] <Antinomy> xoz: dig. one sec.
[01:30] <stjepan> hi
[01:30] <stjepan> Seveas
[01:30] <stjepan> I am shocked
[01:30] <omer> It TV card that let you watch TV on computer/Watch VIdeo on computer
[01:30] <Antinomy> xoz: side note - could this be happening because I loaded a x86 onto an AMD 64?
[01:30] <phixion> how do i view hidden directories from terminal? :po
[01:31] <toowoomba> ls -a
[01:31] <omer> Can you help me configure it?
[01:31] <phixion> thx
[01:31] <xoz> Antinomy: this will allow you to avoid loading most modules and X so that you can go to console. Antinomy it should be upward compat but not sure. i think it is Xserver problem.
[01:32] <Antinomy> xoz: ok let me try...
[01:32] <Antinomy> you should know the name of your kernel to boot. <kernel name> S <return>
[01:32] <omer> tanki: My problem is with xorg
[01:32] <tanki> omer, i dont own one i was just curious about how they work
[01:32] <xoz> Antinomy: most likely, X configuration problem
[01:33] <Antinomy> xoz: your command didnt work. do I need the brackets?
[01:33] <xoz> Antinomy: no.
[01:33] <omer> Well, That a qestion more on xorg than on TV card, tanki
[01:33] <stjepan> Seveas: hey
[01:33] <Antinomy> xoz: so syntax is Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.10-5-386 S
[01:34] <stjepan> Seveas: look at this: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=7405
[01:34] <xoz> Antinomy: example* kernel-image-2.6.10 S
[01:34] <stjepan> it is impossible
[01:34] <stjepan> I am shocked
[01:35] <Antinomy> xoz: Unrecognized command.
[01:35] <xoz> Antinomy: what about 1 or init=/bin/bash
[01:35] <stjepan> Seveas: so?
[01:35] <Whistler> is there any way of stopping daemons from starting on boot up?
[01:35] <stjepan> ok
[01:35] <stjepan> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=7405
[01:35] <bob2> Whistler: sure, remove the S symlink from /etc/rc2.d/
[01:35] <Antinomy> both unrecognized commands
[01:35] <xoz> Antinomy: use e to edit the boot option
[01:35] <stjepan> what is problem with that?
[01:36] <bob2> Whistler: or use rcconf
[01:36] <Antinomy> ok thanks
[01:36] <omer> Does anyone here understand in xorg?
[01:36] <Antinomy> Ok, I'm in edit mode in grub. Which should I pick?
[01:37] <xoz> Antinomy: just add it to the end of the other options
[01:37] <xoz> Antinomy: and press "g"... not sure
[01:37] <Antinomy> xoz: SO I'm going to open a new line?
[01:37] <Antinomy> xoz: ok
[01:38] <Antinomy> xoz: and the syntax again, xoz?
[01:39] <xoz> Antinomy: just add "S" or "1" or "init=/bin/bash" to the end of the line that contains your kernel
[01:39] <Antinomy> k
[01:39] <derda>   inflating: jre1.5.0_04/bin/java
[01:39] <Antinomy> xoz: done
[01:39] <derda> where is it on my local system?
[01:40] <xoz> Antinomy: or you can google "grub single-user"
[01:40] <Antinomy> xoz: no thanks, I'd rather talk to you
[01:40] <Antinomy> xoz: now I entered the S, do I go back to the main screen to boot?
[01:41] <xoz> Antinomy: ah, not S... type "single" then ... main screen... then b to boot
[01:41] <_omer_> I need help with xorg
[01:41] <xoz> Antinomy: substitute S with the word single. got it. S is for lilo.
[01:41] <Antinomy> xoz: got it. booting.
[01:42] <Antinomy> xoz: <fyi, I booted from the edit screen>
[01:42] <stjepan> so?
[01:42] <stjepan> hey
[01:42] <stjepan> where is Seveas?
[01:42] <xoz> Antinomy: if your comp hangs, then at least you know it's not X only :(
[01:42] <Antinomy> xoz: what if it just isnt seeing my keyboard?
[01:43] <Antinomy> xoz: yeah thats it I got a command line but no keys are coming up.
[01:43] <xoz> Antinomy: linux won't boot if your kb is not recognize AFAIK
[01:43] <xoz> *recognized
[01:43] <othernoob> does anyone use Opera8?
[01:43] <Antinomy> AFAIK?
[01:43] <othernoob> afaik=as far as i know
[01:43] <Whistler> i do
[01:43] <Whistler> use
[01:43] <Whistler> opera8
[01:43] <bob2> xoz: sure it will
[01:43] <Whistler> =]
[01:44] <RQ> _omer_: ?
[01:44] <bob2> xoz: unless your bios whinges
[01:44] <CapSoft> othernoob try firefox
[01:44] <Antinomy> xoz: ok...what do I need to do to make it recognize it?
[01:44] <othernoob> CapSoft: no thank you, i prefer a good browser ;)
[01:44] <xoz> Antinomy: buy a new kb :)
[01:44] <CapSoft> as i said... firefox ;)
[01:44] <Antinomy> xoz: SO not funny.
[01:44] <othernoob> Whistler: is there a plugin for streaming media like wmv?
[01:44] <CapSoft> for mozilla there is
[01:44] <Whistler> othernoob srry but i dont know
[01:44] <CapSoft> as i said..... firefox is good :P
[01:44] <RQ> new keyb is always fun, Antinomy
[01:44] <RQ> ;)
[01:45] <othernoob> CapSoft: i know
[01:45] <CapSoft> mozilla-mplayer... or something...
[01:45] <Antinomy> Ubuntu: linux for humans with ALOT of spare time.
[01:45] <_omer_> I need edit xorg, and I have a problem there
[01:45] <othernoob> CapSoft: ignore my nickname okay?
[01:45] <xoz> Antinomy: strange that kb is not recognized. well, i would like to suggest you do certain commands but you have no kb... oh well.
[01:45] <RQ> _omer_: specify
[01:45] <CapSoft> lol k i will
[01:45] <RQ> hmmm what's the problem, xoz/Antinomy:
[01:45] <RQ> ?
[01:45] <Antinomy> xoz: Hey, thanks. back to Windows, then
[01:45] <xoz> Antinomy: try knoppix or other livecd and check if others work.
[01:46] <othernoob> CapSoft: the main reason why i asked is, that the mplayer plugin for firefox should work with opera as well, but it's not being recognized
[01:46] <james> I've got a fresh ubuntu64 install, and am having some problems getting the printer to work. It is a parallel port Samsung ML-1210. I try to print a Test page, it shows up in /var/spool/cups but it does not print.
[01:46] <xoz> Antinomy: are you using 2.6 kernel?
[01:46] <CapSoft> ow Antinomy how did it work out? your ubuntu install?
[01:46] <Antinomy> don't have time for this nonsense
[01:46] <_omer_> That part o my xorg:
[01:46] <Antinomy> cap:(
[01:46] <_omer_> Section "Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 865G Integrated Extreme Graphics 2 Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Driver		"i810"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[01:46] <_omer_> EndSection
[01:46] <RQ> and
[01:46] <RQ> ?
[01:46] <Antinomy> CapSoft: it installed, but won't recognize my keyboard
[01:46] <_omer_> Section "Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 865G Integrated Extreme Graphics 2 Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Driver		"i810"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[01:46] <_omer_> EndSection
[01:46] <Seveas> do NOT paste in here
[01:46] <CapSoft> lol
[01:47] <CapSoft> paste.ubuntulinux.org
[01:47] <Seveas> .nl
[01:47] <Antinomy> CapSoft: it installed, but won't recognize my keyboard
[01:47] <Seveas> not .org
[01:47] <Whistler> why cant i remove anything from ///etc/rc2.d ?
[01:47] <Seveas> wHisKy, because only root can
[01:47] <bob2> Whistler: because you didn't use sudo
[01:47] <CapSoft> k Seveas
[01:47] <bob2> Whistler: don't use nautilus for that
[01:47] <Whistler> i used krusader
[01:47] <Whistler> :D
[01:47] <Whistler> ^^
[01:47] <Whistler> =]
[01:47] <bob2> don't use that either
[01:47] <CapSoft> commandline
[01:48] <CapSoft> sudo rm .....
[01:48] <Whistler> now i know
[01:48] <Whistler> =]
[01:48] <Antinomy> what lovely irony. Windows is working great.
[01:48] <CapSoft> lmao
[01:48] <CapSoft> does it?
[01:48] <bob2> how is that irony?
[01:48] <CapSoft> it just does not show the errors...
[01:48] <Antinomy> CapSoft: yep.
[01:48] <zerboxx> Does anyone here know how to get pdf files onto a palm pilot? I've read that it's possible through evolution but I have no idea how
[01:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is there a program i can use to resume a download?
[01:48] <Whistler> what command deletes file?
[01:48] <Antinomy> bob2: well, I'm installing ubuntu because windows sucks.
[01:49] <bob2> Whistler: rm
[01:49] <Whistler> thx
[01:49] <CapSoft> LuNaTiK^GuY just look for download managers for linux
[01:49] <Antinomy> bob2:  But I may have to reevaluate the relative merits. A working computer is sort of essential
[01:49] <CapSoft> if you download through http, firefox has some plugins ...
[01:49] <Antinomy> to me at least
[01:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> CapSoft is there something in the repos?
[01:49] <xliu> i used gcc to compile a cpp file , it returns:undefined reference to cin
[01:49] <bob2> xliu: your code is broken
[01:49] <simone> hi: how can I see where is the cdrom into /dev? I don't see a /dev/cdrom directory...
[01:49] <bob2> xliu: std::cin
[01:50] <Whistler> so if i remove files from ///etc/rc2.d so they wont start up?
[01:50] <Seveas> or: using namspace std
[01:50] <Seveas> Whistler, never manually do that
[01:50] <Seveas> use update-rc.d
[01:50] <bob2> Whistler: the S ones, yes
[01:50] <Antinomy> Does anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to recognize my keyboard?
[01:50] <xliu> yes , it returns"undefined reference to std:cin"
[01:50] <Seveas> xliu, std::cin
[01:50] <xliu> "undefined reference to std::cin"
[01:51] <Seveas> then #include <iostream>
[01:51] <hondje> hehe
[01:51] <RQ> Antinomy: what's wrong with your keyb?
[01:51] <bob2> xliu: this is #c++ territory, tho
[01:51] <Seveas> but waaay offtopic in here, go to a programming channel
[01:51] <xliu> but i have write "using namespace std"
[01:51] <bob2> or "time to buy a C++ book"
[01:51] <xliu> c++
[01:51] <Whistler> bob2 so i can delete files beggining with S20
[01:51] <Whistler> or smt like that?
[01:52] <Seveas> Whistler, why would you?
[01:52] <Antinomy> RQ: I did a dual boot install. Windows works fine - key board, mouse, but Ubu is not recognizing either
[01:52] <xoz> xliu: #include <iostream>
[01:52] <Seveas> Whistler, what are you trying to accomplish
[01:52] <RQ> Antinomy: does it ignore them completely?
[01:52] <RQ> ?
[01:52] <Whistler> Seveas cause i got few daemons booting up
[01:52] <Whistler> and i dont want them
[01:52] <Whistler> to boot up
[01:52] <Seveas> Whistler, which ones?
[01:52] <xliu> i have write all needed, it must be wrong configuration about gcc library
[01:52] <Whistler> mysql
[01:52] <Whistler> nessusd
[01:52] <Seveas> xliu, paste your code on a pastebin
[01:53] <Whistler> and few more
[01:53] <Antinomy> RQ: yep
[01:53] <Seveas> Whistler, then remove the packages...
[01:53] <xliu> pastebin?
[01:53] <Antinomy> Should I reinstall?
[01:53] <Seveas> xliu, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:53] <Whistler> i removed them but it still tries to boot up
[01:53] <RQ> oops
[01:53] <Seveas> !pastebin
[01:53] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[01:53] <RQ> weird irc client...
[01:53] <xliu> thanks a lot, all people helps me
[01:53] <Antinomy> RQ: SHould I reinstall?
[01:53] <RQ> Antinomy: does it ignore them both completely?
[01:53] <Antinomy> RQ: yes
[01:54] <RQ> no you shouldn't
[01:54] <RQ> Antinomy: hoary?
[01:54] <Antinomy> yes
[01:54] <Antinomy> RQ: grub loads fine and sees the hyes
[01:54] <Antinomy> keys
[01:55] <RQ> mhm...
[01:55] <RQ> Antinomy: and even in "single" mode you are unable to type?
[01:55] <ubuntu> ?
[01:55] <Antinomy> RQ: could this be because I'm loading a x86 onto a AMD 64?
[01:55] <Antinomy> RQ: correct
[01:55] <Whistler> what is an ntp-server?
[01:56] <Seveas> Whistler, how did you remove them?
[01:56] <Seveas> aptitude purge mysql-server should do it
[01:56] <RQ> Antinomy: yes :D
[01:56] <Seveas> or apt-get remove --purge
[01:56] <RQ> probably
[01:56] <RQ> dunno
[01:57] <RQ> Antinomy: isn't there a separate release for amd64?
[01:57] <Antinomy> RQ:  Yes, probably, dunno - quite a progression there lol
[01:57] <Antinomy> RQ: separate for 64, but everyone told me to use x86
[01:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i launch wget?
[01:57] <feAR`> just type "wget"
[01:57] <RQ> hmz weirdos
[01:57] <feAR`> :D
[01:58] <RQ> Antinomy: well if you were able to install x86 on that box, then it's probably working....
[01:58] <aeho> Whistler, it has something to do with computers clock I guess
[01:58] <Antinomy> RQ: What's working?
[01:58] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: for example   wget -C http://foo.bar.com/file-to-download
[01:59] <RQ> Antinomy: the way everyone suggested
[01:59] <thoreauputic> oops : should be lower case -c
[01:59] <Whistler> any ways of making ubuntu boot faster?
[01:59] <RQ> feAR`: get out, you gentoo user!! :P
[01:59] <feAR`> * arch
[01:59] <feAR`> :D
[01:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it starts in console....
[01:59] <Antinomy> RQ: so why won't it recognize my kb?
[01:59] <RQ> feAR`: whatev
[02:00] <feAR`> RQ, i`m using ubuntu as well...;p
[02:00] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: yes, it's a command line tool
[02:00] <RQ> Antinomy: have you upgraded your kernel before it started doing so?
[02:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thoreauputic, and where is it storing it?
[02:00] <Antinomy> RQ: before what did so? Ubuntu?
[02:00] <RQ> yes
[02:00] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: your working directory (that you call it from)
[02:00] <Antinomy> RQ: I don't know. I'm a n00b.
[02:00] <RQ> before ubuntu started ignoring your input
[02:00] <RQ> hm
[02:01] <Antinomy> RQ: oh. this is a fresh install
[02:01] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY:  read  man wget - it has about 70 options
[02:01] <Antinomy> RQ: I've never hit a command line that took a command yet
[02:01] <Whistler> any ways of making ubuntu boot faster?
[02:02] <xoz> Whistler: avoid rebooting
[02:02] <Seveas> Whistler, if you are experimental, try init-ng (google for it)
[02:02] <RQ> Antinomy: try reinstalling from amd64 disc then
[02:02] <RQ> at least that's what i would do
[02:02] <Seveas> Whistler, if not: live with the current situation.
[02:02] <Antinomy> rq: k, will do.
[02:02] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thoreauputic, does wget resume a download?
[02:02] <Whistler> k
[02:02] <xoz> wget -c
[02:02] <Seveas> -C
[02:02] <Whistler> cause i rebot few times a day
[02:03] <Whistler> =]
[02:03] <PD> yes LuNaTiK^GuY
[02:03] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: of course - that's what the -c option is for
[02:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> oh ic
[02:03] <Seveas> eh crap
[02:03] <Seveas> -c indeed
[02:03] <xoz> heh
[02:04] <xoz> progs using CAPs are l33m
[02:05] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: I suggest typing   wget --help | less to see options
[02:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thoreauputic, yes i'm reading the options rite now :)
[02:05] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: :)
[02:05] <Varuni> I'm having problems with Ubuntu and DHCP. Anyone in here who may be able to help me out?
[02:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> looks cool :)
[02:06] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: indeed - wget is a gem :)
[02:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm downloading eclipse....hope its worth the size :D
[02:07] <phixion> im getting very annoyed now :/
[02:08] <phixion> trying to install ctorrent, running ./configure, 'checking for C++ compiler default output... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables'
[02:09] <thoreauputic> phixion:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:09] <Antinomy> RQ: could this be related to the fact that windows doesn't see my monitor, but uses a default?
[02:09] <chris_^> Hi
[02:10] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[02:10] <phixion> THANKYOU thoreauputic!
[02:10] <chris_^> I just upgraded my Breezy, because X was broken for some days... now it works fine :) But i can not Switch the tty's with alt+strg+F1-F6? 0o
[02:10] <thoreauputic> phixion: :)  No problem
[02:10] <RQ> Antinomy: dunno. You might want to set your BIOS to default values btw
[02:10] <Antinomy> How can I boot from an install disk without hitting GRUB?
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: bios? what's that?
[02:11] <holycow> chris_^, and what?
[02:11] <RQ> you set CD to be your first boot device in BIOS
[02:11] <holycow> you expect help with something in pre alpha stage?
[02:11] <Antinomy> k
[02:11] <RQ> Antinomy: ooohhhhh
[02:11] <RQ> ok.. i see..
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: ?
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: what?
[02:11] <RQ> BIOS is Basic Input - Output System :)
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: good news?
[02:11] <Antinomy> oh
[02:11] <RQ> no...
[02:11] <chris_^> holycow? i can't switch O_o i boot up to gdm, but i can not go to the TTY1.. nothing happen if i press the three keys 0o
[02:11] <bob2> Whistler: if you know what they do and are sure you don't need them, yes
[02:11] <holycow> chris_^, so bloody what?
[02:11] <Antinomy> I know how to do that.
[02:12] <holycow> why are you using breezy?
[02:12] <RQ> it's just you're the first linux user i see not knowing what BIOS is ;)))
[02:12] <holycow> do you really think anyone can really help you with something in pre alpha stage?
[02:12] <holycow> how about reinstalling breezy ?
[02:12] <chris_^> holycow, its just on my Testing-PC
[02:12] <chris_^> on my workstation runs Hoary :P
[02:12] <RQ> Antinomy: you get to BIOS by hitting Del or F1 or some other key while the PC is in the early boot stage
[02:12] <holycow> i meant reinstall hoary
[02:12] <holycow> :)
[02:12] <holycow> haha!
[02:12] <Antinomy> RQ: Well, I'm not so much a linux user as an ubuntu user.
[02:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: you could try being a bit less bellicose, methinks
[02:12] <RQ> well, you get to the BIOS configuration utility, to be precize
[02:13] <holycow> thoreauputic, *sigh* maybe, it just seems ... so obvious
[02:13] <Antinomy> RQ: The attraction being that I would need to be a comp. engineer to tell Bill Gates to fuck off.
[02:13] <Antinomy> RQ: but so far...
[02:13] <Nameeater> is there a command to eject the cdrom?
[02:14] <RQ> Nameeater: eject
[02:14] <thoreauputic> Nameeater:  "eject" - funnily enough
[02:14] <Nameeater> oh.. ta :)
[02:14] <Antinomy> RQ: is Grub the same as floppy here?
[02:14] <RQ> Antinomy: eh?
[02:14] <Whistler> is zone alarm aviable for ubuntu?
[02:14] <RQ> grub is software
[02:14] <RQ> floppy is hardware :D
[02:15] <RQ> it physically cannot be the same
[02:15] <nightswim> Whistler: no way
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Antinomy: GRUB is a boot loader - it has nothing to do with devices
[02:15] <Antinomy> RQ: in bios. It's telling me the boot order is flopy, CD, HD, net
[02:15] <cruxnor> is it possible only to include some special packages from ubuntu-backports? i only want the java-stuff but not the mozilla etc. when i run an apt-get upgrade
[02:15] <Whistler> nightswim sad i dont like firestarter
[02:15] <Whistler> =[
[02:15] <RQ> Antinomy: that's ok
[02:15] <Antinomy> k
[02:15] <RQ> put the install CD in
[02:15] <Whistler> any other good firewall?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Whistler: there are much better Linux firewall tools
[02:15] <RQ> and exit bios
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Whistler: a simple one is firestarter
[02:16] <nightswim> why would you want to use crap like zone alarm if there is real software available
[02:16] <Whistler> thoreauputic i have firestarter but it doest do anything
[02:16] <Seveas> Whistler, you need to tell it to do things....
[02:17] <Antinomy> rq: well, I changed the boot order, and it's still loading Grub.
[02:17] <Whistler> Seveas any tutorial?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Whistler: you want bells and whistles or security ? It does exactly what is needed
[02:17] <RQ> Antinomy: not the CD?
[02:17] <Seveas> wHisKy, fs-security.com
[02:17] <Seveas> Whistler*
[02:17] <Antinomy> rq: well, I changed the boot order, and it's still loading Grub.
[02:17] <RQ> Antinomy: did you save the settings?
[02:17] <Antinomy> RQ: yep.
[02:17] <RQ> weird
[02:18] <RQ> and the CD doesn't boot yet?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> Whistler: firestarter has a wizard for heaven's sake: you need a tutorial?? It's trivially easy
[02:18] <Antinomy> rq: no.
[02:18] <xoz> Whistler: guidedog or shorewall
[02:19] <Antinomy> rq: ok, so now I can't even reinstall? What the hell?
[02:19] <RQ> wait wait...
[02:19] <RQ> this doesn't fit
[02:19] <RQ> unless the CD isn't bootable
[02:19] <Whistler> i have firestarter set up
[02:19] <Whistler> but anybody can ping me or scan my ports
[02:20] <Seveas> Whistler, so?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Whistler: and?
[02:20] <Seveas> that is perfectly secure....
[02:20] <Whistler> i better like when nobody can do that
[02:20] <Antinomy> rq: let me try the 32 disk that "worked", unless you don't count a functioning keyboard as "work"
[02:20] <holycow> then you wont be on the net
[02:20] <trevi> I need to compile hplip (hp printing software). Install build-essentials (as guide says), but "make" fails...
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Whistler: then look for the filtering options in the config dialog
[02:21] <RQ> what do you mean Antinomy?
[02:21] <trevi> what else do I need to compilig...?
[02:21] <Seveas> Whistler, it gives you NO security at all to block pings...
[02:21] <Seveas> ...or portscans...
[02:21] <holycow> ping is harmless, and the only way people CANNOT scan you is if your computer is powered down
[02:21] <Antinomy> RQ: my x86 worked - it installed ubu. let's see if I can boot from there maybe the 64 CD is messed up
[02:21] <thoreauputic> Whistler: disabling pings is kind of bad form anyway
[02:21] <Seveas> indeed
[02:21] <RQ> ah ok :)
[02:21] <holycow> just make sure you have all unnecessary ports closed
[02:21] <Seveas> it's breaking quite a few RFC's to block pings and scans :)
[02:21] <RQ> trevi: what does make say?
[02:22] <holycow> what Seveas said, that too
[02:22] <Whistler> for example zone-alarm does that
[02:22] <Whistler> and its perfectly fine
[02:22] <holycow> no its not
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Whistler: for example, zone alarm is breaking RFCs as Seveas said
[02:22] <trevi> something about can process "all"
[02:23] <holycow> breaking rfc's is not fine
[02:23] <Seveas> zone alarm is crappus maximus
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Whistler: and you can ignore grc.com on this subject as well
[02:23] <Seveas> grc is paranoid
[02:23] <holycow> thoreauputic, hehe!
[02:23] <Whistler> k k
[02:23] <Whistler> =]
[02:23] <Antinomy> RQ: if it doesnt see my kb, then is it a driver issue or something?
[02:24] <Whistler> so is there any way to show me when somebody scans my ports
[02:24] <Whistler> ?
[02:24] <mumbles> dhcp dump
[02:24] <mumbles> or something like that?
[02:24] <RQ> Antinomy: the kernel is bad prolly, or sth
[02:24] <holycow> grc.com guy definately steps over the line of 'reasonable', he reminds me of the conspiracy wackos
[02:24] <rob^> Whistler, firestarter will log some of it
[02:25] <thoreauputic> Whistler: have you actually bothered to *look* at the interface for firestarter? that's exactly what it does
[02:25] <Whistler> i know
[02:25] <chris_^> root@Asterix:/home/chris/Downloads/porn-get_0.5.1 # porn-get update
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: sex-mission.com Packages [374]
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/babes.shtml Packages [996]
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/pornstars.shtml Packages [999]
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/centerfolds.shtml Packages [737]
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/cumshots.shtml Packages
[02:25] <Whistler> but it never alerted me
[02:25] <holycow> for example, before winxp, he was complaining that ms didn't allow raw access to tcpip ports, when xp added raw tcpip access, he complained that it would ruin the internet and allow script kiddies to do all kinds of things
[02:25] <holycow> *sigh*
[02:25] <frank> I was just thinking about the grc guy.  I'm using dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/nick/usb/root_partition_iso_150505.iso  bs=65535 - any ideas?
[02:27] <emanuelez> after playing with gaim-vv now gaim doesn't show icons anymore... how can i reinstall it cleanly? i tried apt remove and install it again but i had no luck with that. any hint?
[02:28] <Seveas> IFRFLYR, probably your /home partition is bigger than the space left on your USB drive....
[02:28] <IFRFLYR> Seveas, actually, no, the USB drive is wide open and significantly larger.
[02:28] <Seveas> emanuelez, the icon cache is in ~/.gaim, remove the buddies.xml to reset it (it will reset any aliases you have set too, but not your contact list)
[02:28] <emanuelez> Seveas: r u tring to write the iso image in the same dir u're dumping?
[02:28] <Seveas> emanuelez, I'm doing nothing :)
[02:29] <chris_^> -_-
[02:29] <emanuelez> Seveas: oppss.. sorry.. that was for IFRFLYR
[02:29] <weitao__> hi, I have a problem when I use gThumb to print a photos . it has always blank at the edge, how can I do to reduce it?
[02:29] <james> I'm connecting to cups via localhost:631 and its asking me for the CUPS password, I've tried both my own login and the root login, is there a seperate password for cups
[02:30] <holycow> james, there is no cups web interface
[02:30] <holycow> forget that
[02:30] <holycow> use the cups gnome manager plz
[02:30] <holycow> system/admin/printing
[02:30] <james> I've been trying that, but I can't get it to print
[02:30] <holycow> first, printing from what
[02:30] <holycow> second, what printer?
[02:31] <holycow> did you check linuxprinting.org to see if printer is supported?
[02:31] <holycow> sorry, just throwing out a checklist
[02:31] <james> anything, this includes a "test page", gedit, firefox
[02:31] <holycow> :)
[02:31] <IFRFLYR> emanuelez, no different physical drive
[02:31] <holycow> third is it connected locally via cable, or over the network
[02:31] <holycow> etc.
[02:32] <IFRFLYR> emanuelez: dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/nick/usb/root_partition_iso_220705.iso  bs=65535
[02:32] <james> a local printer on the paralel port - a samsung ml-1210 laser printer
[02:32] <Gourami> please help with mounting, first I get smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[02:32] <james> ** (gnome-cups-manager:5287): WARNING **: connect = 'parallel:/dev/lp0'
[02:33] <Gourami> so then I do sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[02:33] <IFRFLYR> OR does anyone have a better way to mirror a root partition to a backup drive?
[02:33] <Gourami> then I get libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.
[02:33] <Gourami> 11685: Connection to zatrm054 failed
[02:34] <emanuelez> it seems i also miss some gaim files in /usr/share... how can i force it to reinstall?
[02:34] <emanuelez> IFRFLYR: dunno...
[02:34] <IFRFLYR> Yeah, me neither. googling some more I guess. . . .
[02:34] <james> The print jobs are showing up in /var/spool/cups/
[02:34] <holycow> james, *hmmm*
[02:35] <emanuelez> is there an apt-get reinstall or something?
[02:35] <evanpro> Well lookie there
[02:35] <james> Though the gnome-print-manager thinks they are now processed
[02:35] <Gourami> anyone help with mnt problems, I am following the wiki but getting sudo related problems
[02:35] <evanpro> There's my answer, right in the topic
[02:35] <traveller> anyone here got java to work on ubuntu amd64 before? i followed the howto to no avail
[02:35] <Amaranth> emanuelez: sudo apt-get install --reinstall foo
[02:35] <evanpro> traveller, yeah, mine is working
[02:36] <evanpro> Did you use make-jpkg ?
[02:36] <emanuelez> Amaranth: wohoo! thx! :)
[02:36] <eevertti> is ubuntu good for firewall/router?
[02:36] <traveller> evanpro: yeah, everything on the howto
[02:36] <othernoob> traveller: java hasn't been completely ported to amd64 yet..
[02:36] <holycow> james, i'm at a loss because that issue is at a much more granular level than most generic print issues ... sounds like an issue between the printer and the /dev/lpt device ...
[02:36] <traveller> othernoob: oh no....that's bad news
[02:36] <othernoob> eevertti: rather use freesco as firewall/fouter
[02:36] <holycow> james, and i'm not sure how to debug those unfortunately, sorry :/
[02:36] <thoreauputic> eevertti: a dedicated firewall/router like Smoothwall would be easier
[02:37] <othernoob> traveller: iirc the javawebstart and javaplugin hasn't been ported, but the JRE has
[02:37] <james> I'm getting permission denied whenI try sudo cat test.pdf > /dev/lp0
[02:37] <traveller> othernoob: ok i think that's my problem, i needed the plugin
[02:37] <othernoob> traveller: sucks :/
[02:37] <vader> Morning people
[02:38] <traveller> othernoob: yeah :/ know any place where i can see the progress?
[02:38] <james> occasionally the printer will spin up, after a print, but nothing will actually be printed
[02:38] <othernoob> traveller: i'd assume java.sun.com ;)
[02:38] <Gourami> urgh now the internet is broke
[02:38] <Chris_Tucker> i have kubuntu, and i also have ubuntu livecd, im currently out of cd's and bandwidth, is it possible to use the stuff off livecd to switch the kubuntu installed over to gnome?
[02:38] <Seveas> james, ehrm, that is not the way to print...
[02:39] <Seveas> james, try cat test.ps | lpr
[02:39] <traveller> othernoob: oh it's actually sun's fault? i'd figure they would have done everything before letting it go
[02:39] <eevertti> othernoob, another distro, or hardware?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Gourami: the internet is broke? gee, that's serious - but it seems to be working... or we wouldn't be connected ;-)
[02:40] <othernoob> eevertti: freesco is a diskette-big-distro
[02:40] <holycow> Gourami, tell us when you finish the guy at the end of the internet
[02:40] <holycow> -_-
[02:40] <othernoob> traveller: i'm quite sure they're working on it :)
[02:40] <Chris_Tucker> lol holycow
[02:40] <Gourami> ok its almost broke, at least I got a response !
[02:40] <traveller> othernoob: well i sure hope they can do it quick :/
[02:41] <Gourami> now please help me with my mnt problem :0
[02:41] <traveller> othernoob: doesn't seem like there's anything i can do. thank you
[02:41] <thoreauputic> holycow: maybe he meant there was no blue explorer icon on his desktop ;-)
[02:41] <othernoob> traveller: no problem :)
[02:41] <Chris_Tucker> hahahhahaa
[02:41] <Chris_Tucker> i hate IE
[02:41] <Seveas> Gourami, wwww.ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba
[02:41] <holycow> thoreauputic, rofl!!!!
[02:41] <Seveas> download and run that
[02:42] <Gourami> libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.
[02:42] <Seveas> it will add samba shares to your /etc/fstab
[02:42] <james> printer powers up, ready for a print, but nothing prints
[02:42] <eevertti> othernoob, k, gotta look for it...
[02:42] <holycow> thoreauputic, at work i actually have people refer to their browser as "the internet"
[02:42] <vader> so do I...if it is an older machine that won't run IE6, you are exposed to too many wicked things
[02:42] <Gourami> Seveas: I am following the wiki step by step
[02:42] <CarlFK> isn't there a package for ati like there is for nvidia?
[02:42] <holycow> i go "open your browser" they go "you mean the internet?"
[02:42] <thoreauputic> holycow: sad, isn't it ? :)
[02:42] <holycow> gotta love it
[02:42] <holycow> indeed
[02:42] <Chris_Tucker> holycow, here at work they have changed the IE icon to "the internet" for the whole network domain :X
[02:42] <othernoob> eevertti: http://www.freesco.org/
[02:43] <holycow> Chris_Tucker, your kiidding?
[02:43] <Chris_Tucker> no
[02:43] <Chris_Tucker> its actually that
[02:43] <v1ru5> hi. i'm having SEVERE problems with installing Ubuntu. i believe that my problem will just melt in to the 100's of other questions stated here, could someone who knows about Ubuntu and linux in general just private message me?
[02:43] <v1ru5> dpkg doesn't work
[02:43] <holycow> jesus, i swear, every year that i am alive, i am amazed at how little thinking people want to do
[02:43] <v1ru5> can't install grub or lilo
[02:43] <othernoob> Chris_Tucker: in which hell do you work? ;)
[02:43] <CarlFK> my gf is cute: "I broke the internet"
[02:43] <v1ru5> but the base system seems to install ok
[02:43] <holycow> i am more and more amazed even
[02:43] <vader> Chris_Tucker; where I work they have switched to Mozilla...
[02:43] <Amaranth> please say you mean firefox
[02:44] <vader> yes
[02:44] <v1ru5>  i need help!
[02:44] <gianni> can someone tell me how i can mount a partition on login?
[02:44] <vader> I am the one who builds and maiintains all of the images
[02:44] <Seveas> v1ru5, paste the error on a pastebin
[02:44] <Chris_Tucker> othernoob, a school, im the admin for the summer :/ but thing is i cant really do much adminning due to schoolboard contracts with other tech's .. i just sit here and help people all day
[02:44] <Seveas> gianni, add a call to mount to system->prefs->sessions (3rd tab)
[02:44] <Chris_Tucker> vader, this school doesnt know what mozilla is
[02:45] <gianni> seveas>thanks
[02:45] <othernoob> Chris_Tucker: sounds like an..interesting job :/
[02:45] <vader> teach them dide... that is part of the IT admins job, to teach
[02:45] <james> gianni: either add it to your /etc/fstab file, or manually mount at prompt mount /dev/hda9 /mnt/disk1
[02:45] <vader> dude
[02:45] <v1ru5> Seveas: how can i do that without a mouse?
[02:45] <v1ru5> it gives out like 2 pages full of errors besides
[02:45] <Gourami> Seveas: Unable to determine IP address from host name for wwww.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:46] <Seveas> v1ru5, does the machine have a net connectioin
[02:46] <Seveas> connection*
[02:46] <Chris_Tucker> vader, they'll think im schemeing
[02:46] <Seveas> Gourami, www instead of wwww
[02:46] <v1ru5> i'm connected from it, from the lil console like thing
[02:46] <coobra> mouse is for pussys
[02:46] <coobra> :P
[02:46] <v1ru5> which doesn\t have much commands
[02:46] <Chris_Tucker> vader, these people are very very stubborn
[02:46] <Seveas> v1ru5, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[02:46] <Seveas> v1ru5, and then run dpkg ..... | tee -a errorlog
[02:47] <Chris_Tucker> i have kubuntu, and i also have ubuntu livecd, im currently out of cd's and bandwidth, is it possible to use the stuff off livecd to switch the kubuntu installed over to gnome?
[02:47] <Seveas> and cat errorlog | python pastebin
[02:47] <Gourami> lol ok
[02:47] <vader> prove it to them and use IE6 against firefox....then show them all of the docs, that is what I had to do
[02:47] <Chris_Tucker> vader, i may
[02:47] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, no, the live cd contains no packages
[02:47] <coobra> hmm
[02:47] <v1ru5> Seveas: wget errored on me "read only filesystem@
[02:47] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, damn .. that sucks
[02:47] <weiers> Hi... I just installed a GeForce6200 video card. But when I reboot the computer, the graphical interface does not want to start. I then logged in on commandline and did an apt-get install of nvidia-glx as well as nvidia-settings. I ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and I used VIM to set up a /usr/share/application/nvidia-settigns.desktop file. When I rebooted, Ubuntu would still not start the Graphical User interface (X-org)
[02:47] <Seveas> v1ru5, hmm
[02:48] <coobra> laptop 450mhz 198ram will it work :P
[02:48] <Seveas> wget .... -O /tmp/pastebin
[02:48] <v1ru5> ok
[02:48] <vader> Chris_Tucker: I beleive it would be worth your time to throw together a presentation....knock their sox off dude
[02:48] <Chris_Tucker> weiers, run the xorg config program
[02:48] <Chris_Tucker> vader, i may
[02:48] <weiers> Chris_Tucker - could you tell me how to do that?
[02:49] <Chris_Tucker> but vader, where could i find legit sites taht would infect ie?
[02:49] <keikoz> do somebdy could help about acpi? when i type acpi -t u just have No support for device type: thermal
[02:49] <Chris_Tucker> weiers, i seem to have forgotten :/
[02:49] <v1ru5> umm
[02:49] <vader> just type in spyware
[02:49] <keikoz> but i know that sensors exixsts
[02:49] <Tomcat_> weiers: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <thoreauputic> weiers: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <vader> in a google bar lol..........trust me
[02:49] <frank> Chris_Tucker: there are some. Try to find the image that opens up 100 notepad windows!
[02:49] <Chris_Tucker> thats it
[02:49] <v1ru5> Seveas: permission to the file is denied.. :S (i'm a total newb i know :(
[02:50] <Chris_Tucker> oooh! yea those
[02:50] <Seveas> v1ru5, looks like your disk is b0rked or something
[02:50] <Chris_Tucker> thanks frank, i wil
[02:50] <vader> gtg time for me to get work............bye
[02:50] <Chris_Tucker> l
[02:50] <Gourami> Seveas: sorry but that doesnt help me, that reads like something from ubuntuguide...I am using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba to set up the mnt
[02:50] <Seveas> does mount tell you it's read only?
[02:50] <weiers> thank Christ_Tucker, Tomcat_ and thoreauputic
[02:50] <v1ru5> Seveas: umm, how do i check that??
[02:50] <Christ_Tucker> your welcome
[02:50] <Seveas> v1ru5, type mount without arguments and check if you see ro
[02:51] <v1ru5> ok
[02:51] <Seveas> Gourami, are you trying to share folders on your machine ?
[02:51] <Chris_Tucker> bleh.. my kitkat went all melted :(
[02:51] <Daemonic> Ubuntu finally sent me some cds after months of waiting.. I have to say it's quite a nice distro.
[02:51] <Gourami> Seveas: no I am trying to mount a shared folder on another machine
[02:51] <v1ru5> Seveas: only cdrom has ro, all others are rw
[02:51] <Tomcat_> Chris_Tucker: I feel with you :I
[02:51] <Tomcat_> Daemonic: :D
[02:51] <Chris_Tucker> lol
[02:52] <Seveas> Gourami, then the script I gave you will automagically generate fstab lines if you run it...
[02:52] <Seveas> can't be easier
[02:52] <Seveas> oh, and dont do the chmod +s thing the wiki says
[02:52] <Seveas> it's an error
[02:52] <Chris_Tucker> Daemonic, you actually waited? im still waiting for mine, i got so impatient from all the stuff id read, i went and got it myself, dialup didnt stop me.
[02:52] <Gourami> so ok thanks I think, how on earth do I run the web url ?
[02:53] <Gourami> too late done it already
[02:53] <Daemonic> Chris_Tucker, slackware and gentoo kept me happy while waiting. =)
[02:53] <Chris_Tucker> ah,
[02:53] <Chris_Tucker> er .
[02:53] <Seveas> Gourami, chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[02:53] <Daemonic> Chris_Tucker, I just installed ubuntu a couple hours ago... still playing around with it.. so far I like it...being based off of Debian is good.
[02:53] <Seveas> Gourami, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba
[02:53] <Seveas> Gourami, sudo bash addsamba
[02:54] <Chris_Tucker> yea Daemonic, it is
[02:55] <v1ru5> the situation here; i've tried to install Ubuntu twice. Everything goes ok, at least it doesn't stop to any errors, but it seems it doesn't install the boot loader (neither lilo or grub) ok.. How to fix this // any ideas/help ????
[02:55] <Daemonic> I would have much rather installed it on my other box...which is now deceased because of a power supply failute..
[02:55] <Daemonic> failure*
[02:55] <v1ru5> cause the system gives me the "insert sys disk and press enter" when i try to boot from HD
[02:55] <Daemonic> damn power supply took out everything but the memory ...
[02:55] <Gourami> Seveas: is hostname case sensitive ?
[02:56] <pobstil> how can I disable gdm on startup, and enable other things?
[02:56] <Chris_Tucker> ok, im going to throw up a q, is there a way to download the ubuntu-desktop from the net while not on kubuntu? i'd like to download the gnome one and its requisites from here and carry them home on my thumbdrive because this is the only place in the town with highspeed, there is only dialup at homes
[02:56] <thoreauputic> pobstil: enable what, for instance?
[02:56] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, what kind of os are you on now?
[02:57] <Chris_Tucker> i have win98 and ubuntu livecd at my disposal
[02:57] <pobstil> well I want to use ubuntu as a server, and enable apache and sshd
[02:57] <v1ru5> can i get help here o_O
[02:57] <v1ru5> i'm really pissed ya know
[02:57] <v1ru5> don't have another box
[02:57] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, to get you started, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:57] <v1ru5> just this
[02:57] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, I guess the best option is to download the ubuntu installer iso and use that at home to install ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <v1ru5> which doesn't work, obviously
[02:57] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - guess you can't burn a CD where you are at?
[02:58] <thoreauputic> pobstil: disabling gdm is easy enough: echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager  (IIRC)
[02:58] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i used my own burner in one of these computers before for kubuntu but now im out of discs
[02:58] <Seveas> v1ru5, do you have some sort of bootsector protection in your bios?
[02:58] <Antinomy> hey all - I get this error when installing from a 64 CD - could not retrieve bsdutils. Thoughts?
[02:58] <Chris_Tucker> :X wont have any more for 3 weeks
[02:58] <pobstil> how can I start sshd and apache on startup?
[02:58] <Seveas> v1ru5, and the Ubuntu installer should install grub. If that fails, it gives an error message...
[02:59] <v1ru5> Seveas: could it be the virus protection??
[02:59] <v1ru5> if i disable that and reinstall again.. could it work?
[02:59] <Seveas> pobstil, they are autostarted automagically when you install them (and added to the start-on-boot list)
[02:59] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - I found a better way to do "that": sudo sh -c 'echo >x'
[02:59] <Seveas> v1ru5, YES
[02:59] <v1ru5> ok
[02:59] <v1ru5> ->
[02:59] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, is there a way to get teh ubuntu-desktop and its requisites .debs via what i have (livecd and w98)?
[02:59] <Antinomy> hey all - I get this error when installing from a 64 CD - could not retrieve bsdutils. Thoughts?
[02:59] <pobstil> ok thanks
[02:59] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, it is possible but very difficult because you will have to figure out all dependencies yourself
[02:59] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, to get you started, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:00] <thoreauputic> pobstil: install openssh-server for sshd and it will be configured to startup
[03:00] <KB2000> is there a way to install ubuntu from a live cd? so i can do stuff while installing
[03:00] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, not if what im trying rigth now works, if it does, synaptic will tell me them
[03:00] <pobstil> wont that basically start sshd on startup?
[03:00] <CarlFK> KB2000 - not yet.
[03:00] <Gourami> Seveas: see output error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715
[03:00] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, how, if i know them?
[03:00] <KB2000> carlfk: but it's gonna be possible?
[03:01] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, yes
[03:01] <pobstil> just for reference, can I do that without installing openssh-server?
[03:01] <weiers> I just did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in an attempt to get the computer to read/recognise the GeForce6200 card. It took me through a long process asking many questions. I chose the default options on them all, but when I rebooted the xserver still did not start
[03:01] <CarlFK> KB2000 - people are talking about it a few months ago - I havn't kept on on the progress
[03:02] <thoreauputic> pobstil: erm - how can you run an ssh server without installing it?
[03:02] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, no, there isnt one there to start till you install one
[03:02] <pobstil> sshd is on there by default, you can start it without installing openssh-server
[03:02] <Gourami> Seveas: see output error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715 (when u get a chance)
[03:03] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - I don't suppose you have access to your kubuntu box now?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> pobstil: hrm - ubuntu does *not* install an ssh server by default
[03:03] <thoreauputic> pobstil: only the client
[03:03] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i will in an hour and a half
[03:03] <pobstil> gee maybe I did it without realising before then..
[03:04] <pobstil> :s
[03:04] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - somehow you need to get A) packages currently on your box and B) packages needed for kubuntu and then sort that out.  no clue how to get either list ;)
[03:04] <pobstil> well I'm off
[03:04] <Will_> Anybody know of a decent timer application? I just need something that will beep at me after 30 minutes.
[03:04] <Will_> (Yes, I could write a perl script)
[03:04] <thoreauputic> pobstil: and you start it with invoke-rc,d ssh start ( not sshd )
[03:05] <phixion> can anyone tell me how i go about running 'smart update'?
[03:05] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - but... if you could figure out some of the bigger ones, put those on the thumb, take home, add the thumb to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then let apt get the others over dialup
[03:05] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK i know how to get the list of things ubuntu-desktop needs, just go to kynaptic or synaptic and select it, it will say "you also need....."
[03:05] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - oh yeah...  there you go ;)
[03:06] <zerboxx> Is it "safe" to manually install firefox 1.0.6?
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> add them to my sources.list as in thats a file with a list of things and where they are or as in thats a folder and dump them there?
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> zerboxx i have been having some trouble with that
[03:06] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - yeah - just a sec ill find an example
[03:06] <zerboxx> Chris_Tucker: Ok, thanks
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> it should work, but you may have trouble
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> thanks CarlFK
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Will_: sleep 30m && mpg321 loudsong.mp3
[03:07] <qt2> so... i managed to get three people's, in addition to my own, volume buttons working toraise/lower PCM instead of the Master volume.... oh.. and  their mute buttons to boot ;)
[03:08] <zerboxx> qt2: yes you did! thanks again :)
[03:08] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - hmm, not as easy as I though... I have the CD image mounted, and the first line of my sources.list: deb file:///var/www/ubuntu-hoary hoary main restricted
[03:08] <linukso> Hi! <stupid question...>Is backports likely to break my system?</sq>
[03:08] <Will_> thoreauputic: *grin* I've already considered that... though it might be thr way to go
[03:08] <qt2> linukso, not really.
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Will_: I've written a little timer that needs Xdialog if you are interested
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Will_: it's pretty simple - my first GUI thing ;)
[03:10] <silveruno> help, i cant find the place where i can change the resolution
[03:10] <Will_> thoreauputic: Sounds interesting
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Will_:  http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html
[03:10] <Will_> You know, considering my degree I should really code my own in java
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i'll figure it out. in a little over an hour im off work for 6 hrs, thats plenty of time to get the info i need and learn about that sources.list
[03:11] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - but there is a file: Packages.gz that apt-get is going to want, no clue how to create that
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> :)
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> ugh ok thats a prob
[03:11] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - you need to "create a repository"
[03:11] <thoreauputic> Will_: why java? Don't give in to the dark side, Luke! ;)
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> uh, cant i just dpkg -i these things?
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> and then apt-get the rest?
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> the smaller ones that is
[03:12] <colmore> if i need to have a setserial comman run before x starts, where should I put it?
[03:12] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - maybe...  no clue how depandancies are dealt with if you do that
[03:12] <qt2> thoreauputic, gtk based?
[03:12] <linukso> qt2: hmm, really dont want to break my system, but some of the stock ubuntu apps are a bit out of date...
[03:12] <colmore> such as, linukso ?
[03:12] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - I have a feeling it will be worth it to figure out how to make your thumb into a repository
[03:12] <Will_> thoreauputic: Required for my CS degree.
[03:12] <thoreauputic> qt2: yes, it uses the Xdialog thing
[03:12] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i'll proably figure it out. messing around in synaptic will tell me what depends on what
[03:12] <qt2> linukso, i've been using it for  a few weeks, and MY system hasnt broke yet....
[03:13] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - yeah, but that messing around wont teach you anything ;)
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> well, CarlFK the thumbdrive wont be on that computer, i have another computer with an httpd, could i do that?
[03:13] <qt2> silveruno, System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[03:13] <colmore> ./configuring isn't that hard really
[03:13] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - yes
[03:13] <linukso> colmore: f-spot, gaim, blam.
[03:14] <Will_> thoreauputic: This is ideal. Thanks!
[03:14] <qt2> thoreauputic, xdialog?
[03:14] <Will_> thoreauputic: As soon as the java version is ready, I'll let you know *grin*
[03:14] <silveruno> thanks
[03:14] <thoreauputic> qt2:  apt-cache show xdialog :)
[03:14] <colmore> don't know what #s 1 and 3 are
[03:14] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, think i could find a tutorial on the web for this?
[03:14] <kbrooks> Chris_Tucker: uh, maybe
[03:14] <colmore> repeat: what script should I modify to have something run at bootup, before X starts?
[03:14] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - one of us should.. I'v been looking
[03:14] <thoreauputic> Will_: *shudder* Java is Evil ;-)
[03:15] <Will_> thoreauputic: It's not _that_ bad. But I know how you feel
[03:15] <thoreauputic> Will_: heheh
[03:15] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, im fireing up google :)
[03:15] <qt2> thoreauputic, fun.
[03:15] <colmore> Java seems like dead tech next to runtime languages like ruby and python
[03:15] <Madeye> guys, how to get folder content size? i'm connecting through ftp
[03:16] <colmore> and anything you wouldn't want to use those for, you probably wouldn't want to use java for
[03:16] <stew2> Where can I download the latest ISO of breezy?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Will_: just don't try to run any fancy commands with that timer - it won't understand more than a simple one
[03:17] <Will_> thoreauputic: I'm just happy with the visual bar. I often find myself doing things like reading, tidying, coding or playing games... And I need to spend X amount of time doing it. This is just what I need to remind me
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Will_: great :) It's GPL, of course ;-) heheh
[03:17] <stew2> Or is there a hoary I can download with all the patches added??
[03:18] <qt2> thoreauputic, heh, all i could use now is a dialog that mimics the default gnome volume contorl overlay... ;)
[03:18] <Will_> thoreauputic: I might consider making something similar in perl, python or ruby. It'd be a good thing for me to practice
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Will_: yeah, I did it as an exercise to improve my bash scripting :)
[03:19] <colmore> python is a pleasure after writing in other languages
[03:20] <Chris_Tucker> wow, CarlFK, first result on the good ole google.CA/linux.... https://www.bioinformatics.uwaterloo.ca/~tvinar/wiki/index.php?DebianLinuxPackaging
[03:20] <colmore> so does anyone know anything about the init process?  I need to put a command in there somewhere to get my tablet PC working
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Will_: I'm very much a beginner in scripting/programming
[03:20] <colmore> same here
[03:20] <colmore> basically i've learned that C is almost never worth the effort
[03:21] <tbasten> i just got an ATI radeon card and my old card was nvidia. I cant seem to uninstall nvidia-glx
[03:21] <mjr> good for you :)
[03:21] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[03:21] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - nice hit - I coulcn't even come close
[03:21] <Will_> thoreauputic: It's nice. I've only brushed through the code, but it does work, so you pass that test
[03:21] <thoreauputic> Will_: heh - yes i made sure it worked :)
[03:22] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, the university of waterloo is good for something :)
[03:22] <alkuovi> Firestarter shows an active connection to <IP_ADDRESS> from ipp and I have already found out that it is made by my printer. Is that connection necessary because I don't have other computers connected to network?
[03:22] <dim_> hi everybody
[03:22] <tbasten> Anyone have a Radeon card?
[03:22] <tbasten> Who can help me with mine
[03:22] <dim_> can anybody help install skype with ubuntu?
[03:22] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, now my only prob is, how do i get these packages?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Will_: it barfs on commands that need arguments etc
[03:23] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - nother link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories
[03:23] <dim_> i have a library problem
[03:23] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - wget them from archive.ubuntu.com
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Will_: but I think I put in a catcher for what it can't handle
[03:23] <jblu> Hi all, G4 Mac running Hoary ppc. Just starting.  When I dragged my Web site to my home folder, all the files have a lock on them. I did a chown my user but they are still locked. Is this right?
[03:23] <Chris_Tucker> ok CarlFK, thanks for all the help
[03:24] <Will_> thoreauputic: I'd look through, but I've only 19 minutes left on my current task.. I gotta hurry!
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Will_: haha
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> bleh
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> damnit
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Will_: I use it to remind me I have a pizza in the oven ;)
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> i *clicked* the link
[03:25] <Chris_Tucker> now of course i did this at work and IE pops up..
[03:25] <Chris_Tucker> and now its frozen
[03:25] <tbasten> Can someone help me with uninstalling nvidia-glx please
[03:25] <dim_> anyone knows about installing the linux version of skype?
[03:25] <jblu> copying from a CD  to my home folder, all the files are locked. Is this normal?
[03:25] <alkuovi> dim_: did you follow the instructions from ubuntuguide when you installed skype?
[03:26] <rob^> jblu, yes, they are either read only or copied by a different user (maybe root)
[03:26] <dim_> no i downloaded the package from the skype.org site
[03:26] <alkuovi> dim_: ok, you should look this site http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[03:27] <dim_> thanks, I'll check
[03:27] <jblu> ok, so they are available to me then, right?
[03:27] <alkuovi> dim_: If you have already downloaded skype you can skip the wget command
[03:27] <CarlFK> dim_ - I know about it: don't do it ;)   use kphone or one of the other dozzen VoIP phones
[03:28] <rob^> jblu yes, but you have have to chmod/chown them to access them
[03:28] <jblu> I did , but they still show the lock on them
[03:28] <dim_> what is kphone?
[03:28] <rob^> what user owns the files?
[03:28] <rob^> the same user that your logged on with now?
[03:29] <rob^> dim_, a piece of military equipment
[03:29] <jblu> I did chown -R "my user"  /home/"my user"
[03:30] <rob^> jblu, ok, check to see if your user has read/write access to the files
[03:30] <jblu> k
[03:31] <rob^> jblu, an ls -la should look something like: -rw-rw-r-  1 rob rob
[03:31] <stew2> Is it possible to get a Hoary ISO with all the latest updates?
[03:31] <rob^> for example
[03:32] <CarlFK> stew2 - i don't think so
[03:32] <stew2> CarlFK Like it's possible to slipstream all the Windows XP updates into an XP distro.
[03:32] <jblu> drwxr-xr-x
[03:32] <CarlFK> stew2 - but much like installing fromt he live cd, I think it is in the works
[03:33] <dim_> alkuovi: thanks a lot for the information: the installation was successful
[03:33] <dim_> bye
[03:33] <cisco> can anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock ?
[03:33] <stew2> CarlFK K
[03:33] <rob^> jblu, is the user names the same as the one your logged on with
[03:33] <jblu> yes
[03:33] <stew2> CarlFK Cause I have a fast broadband connection at the internet coffee shop. But not at home. I have dialup at home and it's per minute.
[03:33] <stew2> (Ireland0
[03:33] <rob^> not only the ones with "d" in front, but the actual files
[03:33] <stew2> + a sticky keyboard
[03:33] <jblu> Just me and root on this computer
[03:33] <stew2> (not my doing)
[03:33] <CarlFK> stew2 - were you following what Chris_Tucker is doing?
[03:34] <cisco> can anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock at boot up ?
[03:34] <stew2> CarlFK Nope.
[03:34] <Chris_Tucker> he wants to plant them IN the iso and have them install with it
[03:34] <rob^> jblu, ie: -rw-r--r--  1 rob rob<PHONE_NUMBER>-07-22 22:19 faqguide.xml
[03:34] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Yeah
[03:35] <jblu> thanks
[03:35] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Yes I want the patches included.
[03:35] <CarlFK> stew2 - k - here is what you do: 1 on your box, figure out what packages you need.  take that list to the coffee shop.  get some good coffee ;)  3 use wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/something to get the .deb files you need
[03:35] <stew2> CarlFK, Take the whole box? Hehehe
[03:35] <stew2> CarlFK, I've done that too.
[03:36] <Chris_Tucker> stew2, just clarifing to CarlFK, i dont know how. i could make a 2nd cd that ran a script and had them on it but i dont know how to put them in the installer
[03:36] <CarlFK> stew2 - 4) take those files home and make your own little local apt-get repository - like explained https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories or https://www.bioinformatics.uwaterloo.ca/~tvinar/wiki/index.php?DebianLinuxPackaging
[03:36] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Hey! That'd be great!
[03:36] <Chris_Tucker> heh -_-
[03:36] <Chris_Tucker> do you know any bash scripting?
[03:36] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, No.
[03:36] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Sorry.
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> well learn how to make a simple script
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> and learn how to have this script load on cd insert
[03:37] <guim> Dimitri?
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> then plant your .deb files you got with wget on there
[03:37] <cisco> can anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock at boot up ?
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> and make your script install them in the right order so dependancies work
[03:38] <Chris_Tucker> or you could "slipstream" them in, as CarlFK started to explain
[03:38] <rob^> cisco, yes, it couldnt look up the dns address of the time server
[03:38] <rob^> it may mean your internet connection was not up yet
[03:38] <rob^> you can disable it
[03:39] <cisco> no
[03:39] <othernoob> rob^: how?
[03:39] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:40] <stew2> hopefully I can just steal broadband off the neighboor
[03:40] <stew2> or 'borrow' it. I'll give it back.
[03:40] <cisco> ok i was using a wireless card maybe that problem pcmcia services not started yet then.
[03:41] <CarlFK> stew2 - evaluateing it
[03:41] <rob^> to disable the clock sync on startup: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:43] <Chris_Tucker> hm ok ive installed my samba stuff, how do i access the computer (lan ip) <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:43] <rob^> Chris_Tucker, can you ping it?
[03:43] <Chris_Tucker> networ:/// is the default prefix it puts there but it doesnt work
[03:43] <Chris_Tucker> hm one sec
[03:44] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[03:44] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - do you have apache running? (that will be easier for the repo thing)
[03:44] <rob^> Chris_Tucker, have you tried Places -> network servers
[03:45] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK im not at that point yet, im figureing out once ive gotten my stuff with wget, how to land it on one of these windows computers to get it on my thumbdrive
[03:45] <Chris_Tucker> rob^ that has returned cannot access
[03:45] <Chris_Tucker> when i click on this domain
[03:45] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:45] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - got it.
[03:45] <Seveas> ah nvm
[03:46] <Will_> Gah. I'm too tired for this. I've slept too much these holidays, and I can't get out of the habit.
[03:46] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - why not plug the thumb drive into the box that you wget ed the files?
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> woot i got access
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, never got this thing to work on linux before
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> if i plug it in where will it appear?
[03:47] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - it will if it is a good distro ;)
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> if i plug it in where will it appear?
[03:47] <din> Chris_Tucker, prob /dev/sda
[03:47] <CarlFK> oh... where... um.. desktop?
[03:47] <benny_> what is ubuntus kernel directory?
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> ok
[03:47] <benny_> what is the path  i should ask
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> Oh Em Gee!
[03:48] <sph> Is there a separate channel for ubuntu-ppc?
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> OMG!
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> damn i like this
[03:48] <Seveas> sph, no
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> it picked it up instantly
[03:48] <Seveas> benny_, /usr/src/linux
[03:49] <Antinomy> OMG = the rap name of Ice cube's son (Oh My Goodness)
[03:50] <sph> has anyone tried to modify ubuntu-5.04 ppc so it will boot on an old world mac by using bootX instead of yaboot?
[03:50] <Chris_Tucker> it appeared on the desktop and as /media/usbdisk/
[03:51] <cisco> ok is there way to make pcmcia services start before ntpdate clock ?
[03:51] <nalioth> sph: yes, it can be done, i helped a guy t'other day do it (look for Harold in here)
[03:51] <sph> :) great
[03:51] <benny_> OK, don't laugh
[03:51] <benny_> benny@konflict:~$ cd /usr/src/linux
[03:52] <benny_> bash: cd: /usr/src/linux: No such file or directory
[03:53] <trakatran> ubuntu doesnt install de sources
[03:53] <qt2> sph, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallOnOldWorldMacs
[03:54] <sph> qt2, nalioth: thanks
[03:54] <Chris_Tucker> has anyone here tried using synergy on ubuntu?
[03:55] <cafuego> !wiki InstallOnOldWorldMacs
[03:55] <din> Chris_Tucker, no, but i use x2x with it right now :p
[03:55] <Chris_Tucker> x2x = ?
[03:56] <din> x2x is close to synergy, i control 3 comps in my office with 1 mouse and kb
[03:56] <Chris_Tucker> hm
[03:56] <Chris_Tucker> its not cross compatable with windows is it?
[03:56] <Chris_Tucker> cafuego what we are talking about is gui
[03:56] <din> no, it isn't
[03:56] <din> but synergy is afaik
[03:57] <cafuego> Chris_Tucker: vnc
[03:57] <qt2> Chris_Tucker, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> yea i know din
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> omh
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> omg
[03:57] <rob^> Chris_Tucker, I just use XliveCD on windows systems
[03:57] <rob^> with ssh
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> the wiki has everything
[03:57] <cafuego> run vnc through an ssh tunnel, works fine too.
[03:57] <qt2> whats what wiki's are good for ;)
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> cafuego, i dont need teh vid going too, just keyb and mouse :)
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> synergy is like a kvm just doesnt switch the vid and is software
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> no lag either :)
[03:58] <cafuego> Chris_Tucker: that's not very useful for a box 2000km away ;-)
[03:58] <din> cafuego, with x2x or synergy, all you do is just pull your mouse to the side of the display, and voila.. it shows up on the next computer
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> cafuego, i use vnc in those cases
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> :)
[03:58] <silveruno> is there any danish people here, that can help me i danish please
[03:59] <ellric> hello guys
[03:59] <qt2> silveruno, help you do what exactly?
[03:59] <Ng> what should one do with reports of broken multiverse packages?
[03:59] <qt2> `lo ellric.
[03:59] <silveruno> i need to install java
[03:59] <Ng> silveruno: look in the wiki
[03:59] <qt2> Ng, bugzilla perhaps?
[03:59] <silveruno> wiki ?
[03:59] <Ng> silveruno: url is in the topic, go there and search for java :)
[03:59] <Seveas> silveruno: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[03:59] <qt2> silveruno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:00] <Ng> qt2: hmm, I thought they weren't supposed to go in there, but that was a while ago
[04:00] <ellric> can someone direct me to a ubuntu packet archive? im looking for a kernel image package < 2.6.10
[04:00] <Chris_Tucker> holy shit
[04:00] <Chris_Tucker> they have made it REALLY easy to use synergy on ubuntu
[04:00] <Seveas> ellric, there are only packages for warty (old ubuntu version) with older kernels like that
[04:00] <qt2> Ng, just guessing, i dont know.
[04:00] <ellric> any ETA on 2.6.12 then?
[04:00] <silveruno> thanks, ill try
[04:00] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, whats synergy
[04:00] <qt2> ellric, for? breezy? hoary? warty?
[04:01] <ellric> hoary
[04:01] <Chris_Tucker> synergy lets you use two computers, in the graphical interface, with one keyboard and mouse
[04:01] <Chris_Tucker> drag your mouse to teh edge of one screen it appears on the next
[04:01] <Chris_Tucker> it does this via your network, and usually without any lag
[04:01] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, wow
[04:01] <zyth> Does ubuntu support Esperanto as a language?
[04:02] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, i can see some wicked uses in the office now :)
[04:02] <qt2> ellric, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42138
[04:02] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, thanks for that little droplet of enlightenment.
[04:02] <Seveas> zyth, yes
[04:02] <Chris_Tucker> killapop, im testing it here at work with ubuntu livecd and windows 98. (i forgot to mention its cross platform)
[04:03] <Seveas> zyth, language-support-eo - metapackage for Esperanto language support
[04:03] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, jeeeez
[04:03] <Chris_Tucker> i'll be usign it at home with xp and ubuntu
[04:03] <zyth> Seveas, thank you :)
[04:03] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, i'll hook up my ubuntufied laptop now and see :))))
[04:03] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, do u need it installed on both platforms.. one running as a host like vnc or anyhting?
[04:04] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[04:04] <ellric> qt2, whats Breezy?
[04:04] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, ok cool
[04:04] <Chris_Tucker> read the manuals. i tried to do it without reading them on windows - windows .. and its very hard if you dont read them
[04:04] <qt2> ellric, the current develpment version of ubuntu
[04:05] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, alrighty
[04:05] <drgplace> hello all
[04:05] <ellric> so there will be no 2.6.11+ for hoary?
[04:05] <Chris_Tucker> http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/index.html << and >>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
[04:07] <phixion> Can anyone give me some info please? What should I run after a fresh install of Ubuntu? 'upgrade', 'dist-upgrade' or do it through ubuntu update manager?
[04:07] <Seveas> phixion, upgrade
[04:07] <Seveas> and you should also have the security repositories enabled :)
[04:08] <phixion> I use the repositories in ubuntuguide.org, is that ok?
[04:08] <Chris_Tucker> how do i find out the dns name of my livecd run?
[04:08] <Seveas> phixion, NO
[04:08] <phixion> which ones should I be using? :)
[04:09] <Seveas> phixion: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:09] <robert__> Quick question re: partitioning during ubuntu install...
[04:09] <Chris_Tucker> bleh
[04:09] <Chris_Tucker> its jsut .. ubuntu..
[04:10] <Chris_Tucker> lol
[04:10] <drgplace> i upgrade to breezy an when it rebooted it now will not give me a windows session can some help
[04:10] <phixion> Seveas, should i delete the repositories in my sources.list and add them? or add them to the end?
[04:10] <robert__> I am replacing Fedora Core 4 with Ubuntu, already have a / and /home partition set up...
[04:10] <ellric> does anyone else is having problems with accessing SATA drives on a AMD64 system (32 bit ubuntu) with kernel 2.6.10?
[04:10] <Seveas> phixion, delete and add
[04:11] <robert__> During install process, I reformatted / and kept /home as is...
[04:11] <phixion> Seveas, thanks for the help
[04:11] <Joose^> hi
[04:11] <Seveas> phixion, wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:11] <qt2> ...i dont understand why ubuntu doenst allow people to upgrade to the latest ernel via synapti... i mean... dont they want people to have the latest kernel+ubuntuedits?
[04:11] <robert__> But when I boot into ubuntu it logs me out immediately.
[04:11] <phixion> thankyou mate :)
[04:11] <qt2> most other distro's handle it that way, and ti seems to be a very good way to handle it... o.O;
[04:12] <Seveas> robert__, you might need to delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedit
[04:12] <Seveas> homedir*
[04:12] <robert__> There was an option in the partitioning stage of the install that asked me if I wanted to "use" certain partitions
[04:12] <qt2> robert__, there's some files you need to remove to regain access.
[04:12] <robert__> qt2 -- the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority that seveas just mentioned?
[04:13] <tbasten> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51031
[04:13] <qt2> robert__, probably.
[04:15] <robert__> So I should just remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority and reboot.
[04:15] <Joose^> ubuntu can be configurated (graphics, etc) for run with no much memory ram=
[04:15] <Joose^> ?
[04:15] <drgplace> how do i get x-window do restart
[04:15] <CarlFK> I wonder if apt-get upgrade would work with: alias wget='echo wget $1>>gets.sh'
[04:15] <phixion> Joose^, you tried using xfce?
[04:15] <CarlFK> drgplace - ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:15] <Joose^> no...
[04:15] <phixion> desktop environment, meant to be good for low end pcs
[04:16] <Chris_Tucker> OMG, IMO, synergy is better than dual monitors.
[04:16] <drgplace> I have upgraded to breezy an when it reboot it want start x-windows now.
[04:16] <Joose^> is in ubuntu, u can choose in the install not?
[04:16] <robert__> I'll take that as a yes. Thanks!
[04:17] <qt2> tbasten, tried doing it with compolsite disabled?
[04:17] <Joose^> phixion is in ubuntu, u can choose in the install not?
[04:18] <phixion> try looking for it in synaptic
[04:18] <phixion> brb
[04:18] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:18] <holycow> heh
[04:18] <qt2> Joose^, it's in synaptic.
[04:19] <holycow> looks like the ubuntu fellas just added firefoxes last 'patch set' that makes fox crash with certain extensions
[04:19] <holycow> yey!
[04:19] <holycow> :)
[04:19] <qt2> holycow, lol.
[04:19] <Joose^> phixion oka
[04:19] <qt2> holycow, so they ported over the bugs too, eh? ;)
[04:20] <holycow> ehe, i just updated and fox stopped working :)
[04:20] <holycow> beautiful thing about linux is its so easy to get most apps to behave
[04:20] <holycow> just by deleting the user preferences for the app
[04:22] <phixion> Seveas, how can I upgrade firefox now? I have version 1.0.2, I don't think I have the right repositories to upgrade it
[04:22] <Joose^> i'm new ubuntu user and i wonder how i install for example a driver for the sound card, ubuntu find the driver or is manually the process?
[04:22] <Seveas> phixion, you have 1.0.2 with all 1.0.3/4/5 security patches applied
[04:22] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:22] <Chris_Tucker> i wonder how nice edubuntu is gonna be
[04:22] <slask3n> ?
[04:23] <phixion> ok, so my system is fully up to date now?
[04:23] <Seveas> slask3n, remove the CD entry from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <Seveas> phixion, if after you edited sources.list you typed apt-get update && apt-get upgrade: yes
[04:23] <xav> hi everyone! i am using breezy at the moment and having some troubles with xorg and xkb... xorg tells me it couldnt find the keymap
[04:23] <phixion> Seveas, ok thankyou for the help :-)
[04:24] <Seveas> xav, looko at the topic...
[04:24] <xav> although iam pretty im using the right steeings
[04:24] <qt2> Joose^, what sound card?
[04:24] <xav> seveas: too late :)
 i wonder how nice edubuntu is gonna be <-- man, i don't speak english very well...
[04:24] <Joose^> qt2 yes
[04:24] <xav> seveas: i ve been running it for more than one month now
[04:24] <Seveas> xav, X in breezy is simply broken... no matter what your config is...
[04:24] <qt2> joolz, huh?
[04:24] <Chris_Tucker> ern,.. edubuntu is the educational version of ubuntu
[04:25] <xav> seveas: okay... i ll wait then
[04:25] <qt2> xav, you're outta luck till x is fixed. ;)
 i was thinking than u say that for me.. xD
[04:25] <xav> qt2: at least most of my keyboard is correctly working :)
[04:25] <Joose^> sorry
[04:25] <qt2> xav, indeed.
[04:26] <qt2> Joose^, so what sound card do you have?
[04:26] <xav> qt2: ... but it gets hard to do some latex work under emacs :(
[04:26] <Joose^> soundblaster
[04:27] <qt2> Joose^, which one?
[04:27] <xav> joose it should be automatically detected
[04:27] <qt2> Joose^, what zav said.
[04:28] <Joose^> qt2 yeah i know but in case don't detected it .. how install the driver...
[04:28] <Joose^> ?
[04:28] <xav> any idea when the fglrx driver for breezy will be released ,, (no xkb so no question mark)
[04:28] <xav> joose are u sure it is not mute
[04:28] <phixion> what do I need in the options part in my fstab file to make the HDD's appear in "computer"? 'users,defaults,errors=remount-ro'?
[04:29] <qt2> Joose^, if it's not detected, you can come back here, and people will help you. :)
[04:30] <Joose^> xav no, ubuntu detected it, i answerinf how install drivers in ubuntu...i mean.... how install a driver for example a sound card...!
[04:31] <megauser> hello ;-)
[04:31] <Gourami> hi Seveas please see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715 re my mnt problem
[04:31] <Joose^> for the console .. i guess..
[04:32] <qt2> joolz, it varies from driver to driver.
[04:32] <qt2> oops
[04:32] <qt2> Joose^, it varies from driver to driver.
[04:33] <Joose^> qt2 ok... ; =
[04:33] <qt2> Joose^, most drivers can either be installed via synaptic, or downloaded and installed, with instructions on the webpage you downloaded them from.
[04:33] <phixion> Seveas, how do I install java now? its not in my repositories
[04:33] <Joose^> qt2 ummm now understand...
[04:34] <Seveas> phixion, download the jdk.bin from java.sun.com and run fakeroot make-jpkg jre_....bin
[04:35] <Scognito> hi
[04:35] <fresco> hello brothers!
[04:35] <weiers_> I did something very silly. I reinstalled Ubuntu because I could not get my new Nvidia card to work in a plug and play way. But when I reinstalled, i forgot to tell Ubuntu to put my /home/weiers directory on the partition hda7. Can somebody tell me how to change my fstab to do this?
[04:36] <gigaclon> anyway to change the Java theme in firefox
[04:37] <jazzbass_> bon alors j'ai regarg pour mon problme de vido
[04:37] <Seveas> jazzbass_, #ubuntu n'est pas un canal franais
[04:37] <Antinomy> anyone know of a good calendar app for ubu?
[04:37] <Seveas> jazzbass_, va  #ubuntu-fr pour franais
[04:37] <r0d> weiers,  how many harddrives do you have 7?
[04:38] <weiers_> I have two harddrives. HDA and SDA
[04:38] <qt2> http://moon.google.com/
[04:38] <Seveas> r0d, hda7 = 3rd logical partition on second primary
[04:38] <r0d> ahh logicall never used
[04:38] <r0d> whats the point to logical anyways
[04:38] <Antinomy> anyone know of a good calendar app for ubu?
[04:39] <sph> you can only have 4 primary - so you split one primary into several logical to get around the limit.
[04:39] <weiers_> When I look at my fstab, I do not see another dev/hda...... /home/weiers entry, but when I add /dev/hda7     /home/weiers default 0 0 entry, I cannot reboot
[04:39] <weiers_> At least the moment I moun /home/weiers the system stops working
[04:40] <Gourami> please can someone help me mounting a share on a remote computer, we are on a domain if that helps
[04:41] <erchache> hi
[04:41] <Antinomy> Folks - anyone know about what I can do to get UBU to recognize my keyboard?
[04:41] <fresco> Sorry, can someone give me an advice. How to allow only one copy of the process in memory? The thing is... How to make xine not to open files in several windows?
[04:41] <Antinomy> this is my 3rd install
[04:41] <erchache> im triying to install ubuntu amd64 but doesnt have sata_nv modules....how i can get it?
[04:41] <ruschi> Hi fellows. Is ther eabybody who can run "sketch" it fails with strange errors?
[04:41] <weiers_> Gourami, what networking programs do you have installed?
[04:42] <ruschi> error is in some tk call: TypeError: function takes at most 4 arguments (8 given)
[04:42] <sproingie> erchache: try getting linux-restricted-modules
[04:42] <Gourami> on Ubuntu or MS ? (local machine Ubuntu - remote 2003 server) I have samba and smbfs on the local machine
[04:42] <erchache> uhmm
[04:42] <erchache> sproingie: where?
[04:42] <dataw0lf> good morning people.
[04:42] <weiers_> ok, then I am not really qualified to help you. I did it for the first time today between two ubuntu computers using nfs.
[04:43] <qt2> "Studies have shown that grilled cheese on toast is 97% better than libtool."
[04:43] <Seveas> Gourami, try accessing it via places -> connect to server
[04:43] <sproingie> erchache: from apt.  should be linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-6-amd64-k8
[04:43] <erchache> hehehehe
[04:43] <erchache> im triying to INSTALL
[04:43] <erchache> you know
[04:43] <sproingie> erchache: actually i'm not sure that has sata_nv ... i thought it came with it
[04:43] <qt2> gotta love planet.ubuntulinux.org... ;)
[04:43] <Gourami> Seveas: it works via places, I can even right click and say mount
[04:43] <amichai> how do i reinstall an app?
[04:43] <Scognito> ive just installed hoary but cannot play mp3
[04:43] <weiers_> please, is anybody willing to help me change the place where I mount my /home folder?
[04:44] <Scognito> i read the wiki but gstreamer0.8-mad is not avaiable in the extra
[04:44] <sproingie> erchache: actually i think mine came with them.  what motherboard do you have?
[04:44] <Scognito> nor in universe
[04:44] <Scognito> some hin?
[04:44] <GusWrk> hey guys, I'm looking for a tool to monitor my network (kinda like ethereal) but that will alert me when traffic goes over a certain volume.  any ideas?
[04:44] <Gourami> Seveas: I cant get it working via the terminal (I want to set up a cron to copy files)
[04:44] <sproingie> how do i find out what package a file belongs to?
[04:44] <sph> nmap?
[04:44] <amichai> anybody?
[04:44] <amichai> how do i uninstall firefox?
[04:45] <reka> Scognito: it *is* in universe afaik
[04:45] <sproingie> i wonder if i just tought uboto a faq
[04:45] <GusWrk> nmap is just port scanning
[04:45] <sproingie> taught even
[04:45] <reka> Scognito: you enabled it?
[04:45] <fresco> amichai
[04:45] <Scognito> mmm
[04:45] <fresco> go to Synaptic package manager
[04:45] <amichai> fresco: ?
[04:45] <fresco> and uncheck firefox
[04:46] <Gourami> Seveas: did you see the output nick@ZATRM087:~$ sudo bash addsamba
[04:46] <Scognito> reka, i added deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:46] <weiers_> sproingie ... who was that comment aimed at. Are you able to help me change my the place where my /home directory is mounted
[04:46] <Scognito> as the wiki says
[04:46] <amichai> fresco: no cos it unistalls a bunch of dependencies i just want the apt-get command
[04:46] <reka> Scognito: which wiki might that be :-/
[04:46] <amichai> fresco: apt-get --reinstall or whatever
[04:46] <reka> ?
[04:46] <Scognito> the official
[04:46] <Poet_Will\> hello all
[04:46] <Scognito> in the topic
[04:46] <ruschi> apropos firefox: Still strange effects here under KDE. firefox does not react on keyboard entries nor does it follow links i clicked
[04:46] <slask3n> Why do I get this "Could not open resource for writing." errormessage all the time for?
[04:46] <sproingie> weiers_: just copy over the old /home to the new location then change it in fstab
[04:46] <joolz> i have serious mozilla-firefox problems in hoary since this mornings update
[04:46] <fresco> System-Administration-Synaptic Package Manager
[04:46] <joolz> constant segmentation faults
[04:47] <joolz> is it a known issue?
[04:47] <reka> Scognito: direct link to page?
[04:47] <sproingie> weiers_: make sure you use cp -a or you'll hose everyone's permissions
[04:47] <reka> Scognito: that looks like backports
[04:47] <Scognito> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:47] <reka> Scognito: for a sample sources.list with universe and multiverse enabled: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:47] <Scognito> btw i edited manually sources.list
[04:47] <slask3n> Why do I get this "Could not open resource for writing." errormessage all the time when i try runing a movie/mp3 for?
[04:48] <ruschi> in Firefox I can't type any url or fill out forms but opening links in new tab works, just I can't switch the tab then
[04:48] <sproingie> erchache: anyway, i have a amd64 on an nvidia mobo with only sata, and both ubuntu and kubuntu installed fine ... not sure what the problem is, but sata_nv should be on the install cd
[04:48] <joolz> anyone else have firefox segmentation faults since the last update?
[04:48] <ruschi> no
[04:48] <weiers_> sproingie ... ok, I am not quite sure which one is old and which one is new. Is the old one the one that I had on a previous install?
[04:48] <frank> joolz: its a common problem
[04:48] <fresco> Hey, folks. What does "Following applications won't be upgraded - firefox, firefox-gnome-support" ?
[04:49] <ruschi> just upgraded and it runs except fro the problems I told you before
[04:49] <joolz> has someone already filed a bug?
[04:49] <frank> yeah and the guy who made the package knows
[04:49] <sproingie> weiers_: i don't know what your particular setup is.  you're trying to reinstall without changing /home?  don't reformat /home, and it shouldn't destroy it
[04:49] <joolz> fresco: i guess it means good news for you :)
[04:49] <JanC> fresco : sounds like you use backports ?
[04:49] <joolz> frank: ok, thanks
[04:49] <fresco> :)
[04:50] <Gourami> SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it ??? what does that mean
[04:50] <jeran> Okay.. viruses aren't an issue for Linux.. what about spyware/adware?
[04:50] <rob^> jeran, nope
[04:50] <Scognito> got it working, tnx re
[04:50] <Scognito> ka
[04:50] <reka> Scognito: aha
[04:50] <weiers_> sproingie ... what happened is that I had a /home/weiers under a previous install on a seperate partition. I then reinstalled ubuntu, but neglected to tell the installer to keep that partition as home. it has now made a new /home partition (exactly the same name as my old home partition, but in the place that used to be only my root partition.
[04:50] <frank> joolz: the easiest way to update is to install the official firefox as a user
[04:50] <fresco> Well, yes
[04:50] <reka> Scognito: the repo you pasted is hoary-extras
[04:51] <fresco> am I doin' wrong?
[04:51] <weiers_> but now that space is very small, and all my settigns etc is in the other partition. sproingie
[04:51] <reka> Scognito: the topic with gstreamer0.8-mad tells you to look at section 2, which shows you how to enable universe and multiverse.
[04:51] <erchache> sproingie: im trying to install via netboot
[04:51] <erchache> i dont have cdrom
[04:51] <reka> Scognito: not hoary-extras :)
[04:51] <aio> i'm trying to find some information on connecting two pcs together via firewire for the purpose of filesharing.  anybody got any pointers?
[04:52] <rob^> aio, ouch
[04:52] <sproingie> erchache: ah. that's my usual preferred method too.  i guess unless you can find a netboot image that has the drivers, you'll need to burn a full iso
[04:52] <erchache> sproingie: when try to download release file fails....i think is for sata driver
[04:52] <erchache> i dont have cdrom!
[04:52] <erchache> im using pxe netboot
[04:52] <Antinomy> Anyone know what to do if UBUNTU doesn't recognize my keyboard after install?
[04:52] <Scognito> reka, eh he
[04:52] <rob^> ethernet is designed for data transfer, usb is designed for canon scanners <- or firewire in your case
[04:52] <phixion> buy a new keyboard Antinomy  :D
[04:52] <aio> rob^ painful to try?
[04:52] <stjepan> hello
[04:53] <erchache> sproingie: i doesnt have cdrom.....netboot pxe
[04:53] <Antinomy> phixion: so not funny at this point (third install)
[04:53] <stjepan> hello, Seveas
[04:53] <stjepan> where is Seveas?
[04:53] <sproingie> erchache: sounds like the problem may be at the remote end.  i don't know pxe unfortunately
[04:53] <aio> rob^ i've seen a link to do tcp/ip over firewire, but i'm not sure that's what i want.
[04:53] <dj28> rob^: firewire is fine for large data transfer
[04:53] <erchache> :S
[04:53] <dj28> in fact it's recognized as a networking device in most OSes
[04:53] <rob^> aio, I cant think of a good guide, if you already have nics in your pc thats a much easier way to do it
[04:53] <sproingie> weiers_: just go into fstab and change the partition it mounts for /home to the old one
[04:53] <aio> rob^ yeah - i'm specifically looking to access and manipulate video dumps - very large avi files.
[04:53] <slask3n> I get this error when try running a mediafile "Totem could not play 'file:///home/slask3n/Kai Tracid - Too many times.mp3'. - Could not open resource for writing." anyone knows why?rr
[04:53] <sproingie> weiers_:  then if you have new data in your new /home, just mount it somewhere else and copy the files over
[04:54] <aio> rob^ 100mbit is just going to be dog slow....
[04:54] <rob^> aio, well firewire may suit you better for that
[04:54] <rob^> but your case is not the norm
[04:54] <aio> rob^ I *could* do nfs, but that'd just be painful...
[04:54] <Antinomy> Anyone know what to do if UBUNTU doesn't recognize my keyboard after install?
[04:55] <rob^> aio, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26192.html
[04:55] <willert> Antinomy: what kind of keyboard do you have, anything special?
[04:55] <rob^> not sure how much info is there, might give you some pointers
[04:55] <Antinomy> willert: Nope, it's built in on my laptop
[04:55] <weiers_> sproingie ... my fstab has a /proc mount and a / mount and a none mount (swap) and then it mounts the cdrom and the floppy, but I do not see the /home mount there. Do I just create it?
[04:56] <willert> Antinomy: you are on hoary?
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: compaq presario 4000 series AMD
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: yes
[04:56] <dj28> aio: http://www.linux1394.org/eth1394.php
[04:56] <dj28> aio: might want to check that out too
[04:56] <dj28> not sure if it will help
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: BUT - installed from x86 instead of 64
[04:56] <sproingie> weiers_: your /home is just a subdir of your root dir, so you don't need to worry about remounting it.  you will have to mv it to some other name tho
[04:56] <willert> Antinomy: and you can't type anything after boot-up?
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: yep..nothing even in single mode
[04:57] <aio> rob^ looking at that link now, thx
[04:57] <Antinomy> willert: I blew away my dual boot and reinstalled - same problem
[04:57] <rob^> np
[04:57] <aio> dj28 i'll check that out, too, thx
[04:57] <sproingie> weiers_: mv /home /oldhome; mkdir /home; mount /dev/whatever /home; cp -a /oldhome/* /home
[04:57] <stjepan> heya
[04:57] <stjepan> I have adsl
[04:57] <stjepan> downloading works perfect
[04:57] <stjepan> but surfing is very slow
[04:57] <sproingie> weiers_: then edit /etc/fstab to point /home at the old home partition partition .  delete /oldhome when you verify everything works
[04:57] <stjepan> can you help me?
[04:59] <weiers_> sproingie,  I don't beleive I have anything in my current home (soon to be /oldhome) that I want to copy. ... this install is just about 30 minutes old. can I just move it and delete it then.
[04:59] <amichai> exit
[04:59] <stjepan> look
[04:59] <amichai> q
[04:59] <Stranjo> hlw, how can I change the locale of my distro?
[04:59] <sproingie> weiers_: yeah, probably
[04:59] <stjepan> hey
[05:00] <sproingie> weiers_: if you upgraded distros, you'll probably want to move your old .gnome dirs out of the way
[05:00] <stjepan> where can I paste log?
[05:00] <willert> Antinomy: sorry, I don't think I can help you there... my keyboard problem was due to the X transition in breeyz and I've no experiences with amd64 at all... do you have any chance to try the amd64 installer instead of the x86?
[05:01] <ruschi> q
[05:01] <ruschi> quit
[05:01] <Gourami> Seveas: I found the problem I think, its a windows 2003 server restriction http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8479&highlight=cli_negprot%3A+SMB+signing+mandatory+disabled+it.
[05:01] <nalioth> reka: ya been here all this time?
[05:01] <Antinomy> willert: I will try it now...thanks
[05:02] <reka> nalioth: somewhat
[05:02] <stjepan> so?
[05:02] <stjepan> where can I paste log?
[05:02] <nalioth> sproingie: #flood
[05:02] <stjepan> I want to show it to you!
[05:02] <stjepan>
[05:02] <reka> *sigh*
[05:02] <sproingie> nalioth: yeah but that's a nasty hack
[05:03] <sproingie> nalioth: i guess a pasteserv wouldn't have all that nice hilighting and commenting either
[05:04] <MIK3MAN> hey peeps
[05:04] <stjepan> so?
[05:05] <MIK3MAN> anyone know the command like apt-get, but its like apt-find, it searches for packages??
[05:05] <Gourami> ok I now have my mount !! how do I refer to it from a terminal ??
[05:05] <stjepan> hey geks
[05:05] <stjepan> geeks
[05:06] <stjepan> http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1345KHML35MKU0TYGNKX3S86KY
[05:06] <stjepan> download this
[05:06] <stjepan> it is log
[05:07] <weiers_> sproingie , I think i did it right, but I am getting error when I say : mount /home/weiers: mount point  /home/weiers does not exist
[05:08] <weiers_> or do I need to create a new directory on the root partition called, home/weiers?
[05:08] <Gourami> what is the reference to go to a mount from the terminal ? //mountname eg ?
[05:09] <sproingie> weiers_: you just mount /home.  and you need to change your fstab if you're going to mount without giving it a partition
[05:09] <sproingie> Gourami: you just cd to the directory
[05:09] <JingleBells> i've been having trouble setting up VNC to work on :0 desktop
[05:09] <sproingie> Gourami: that's what mount does.  makes a partiton available as a directory
[05:09] <qt2> should i be installing any special nvidia driver for a geforce 4 mx 440?
[05:09] <stjepan> so?
[05:09] <stjepan> can you help me?
[05:09] <JingleBells> it works, provided i'm on the machine and click the "Allow access to this desktop" button that appears
[05:10] <weiers_> Sproingie... so I have now added the following line to etc/fstab
[05:10] <Gourami> sproingie: where does the directory sit (virtually)
[05:10] <JingleBells> which is useless when i'm not at the machine
[05:10] <sproingie> Gourami: wherever you mounted it
[05:10] <weiers_> /dev/hda7    /home    ext3    defaults   0     0
[05:10] <reka> qt2: depends ... if you want 3d accel/direct rendering, then yeah, probably.
[05:10] <sproingie> Gourami: usually the dir itself is in the root partition
[05:10] <Gourami> I cant find it under home
[05:10] <qt2> reka, hm, my card already has direct rendering it seems <.<;
[05:10] <sproingie> weiers_: ok, that looks good.  did you move the old /home out of the way?
[05:11] <JingleBells> I followed http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html is there anyway to stop the dialog that appeared?
[05:11] <weiers_> yes, sproingie
[05:11] <sproingie> Gourami: i lack the context, not sure what the problem you're having is
[05:11] <weiers_> now I type: mount /home  (sproingie
[05:11] <sproingie> weiers_: create a /home directory (mkdir /home)
[05:11] <weiers_> then it says: mount point /home does not exist
[05:11] <weiers_> ok ... I will create
[05:11] <reka> qt2: then you're good to go... (unless you want to see if there are any performance improvements with other drivers)
[05:12] <Gourami> sproingie: I have mounted a remote drive, under computer I now have the mount sitting there, I want to access it via the terminal. It is not a share on my local pc but on a remote server
[05:12] <xliu> anyone knows how to configure the shutdown window(it pops up when you choose Logout in the system menu)? As I reinstalled acpi and acpid yesterday, some choice element such as "suspend the system" disappers
[05:12] <sproingie> where did you mount it?
[05:12] <reka> stjepan: what are you trying to do?  what exactly is your problem?
[05:12] <qt2> reka, heh, i've learned not to mess with a good thing ;)
[05:12] <weiers_> WOW!!!!! Suddenly I get all my desktop icons back,
[05:12] <sproingie> Gourami: what command did you type to mount it?
[05:12] <sproingie> weiers_: sounds like it worked
[05:13] <gyaresu> hi folks
[05:13] <weiers_> I'm just looking because it still does not want to open my home folder in nautilus now
[05:13] <reka> qt2: understandable :)
[05:13] <Gourami> I used sudo bash addsamb sproingie
[05:13] <gyaresu> question: is nautilus capable of 'click + drag' selecting? cause i can't find any reference to it at all.
[05:13] <weiers_> sproingie... It also does not want to start my Thunderbird programme. I want to see if I still have al my old emails.
[05:13] <qt2> reka, i havent even touched my kernel yet o.o;
[05:14] <sproingie> Gourami: i have no idea how addsamb works ... sorry :(
[05:14] <thespiritoftal> hi
[05:15] <Whistler> I removed firefox and now i cant view help  files
[05:15] <reka> qt2: you make it sound like it's commonplace ... i've only recompiled once, and that was done by following instructions.
[05:15] <thespiritoftal> can someone tell me again how to install java in ubuntu? Today seveas has told me but I got disconnected :/
[05:15] <Whistler> any suggestions?
[05:15] <thespiritoftal> I have the .bin file already
[05:15] <Gourami> sproingie: is it smbmount or sudo smbmount ?
[05:15] <weiers_> sproingie (I wonder if I need to just log out and in)
[05:15] <Whistler> thespiritoftal www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:16] <reka> no
[05:16] <qt2> reka, it is if you're not using ubuntu.
[05:16] <erchache> well i install my own image mirror for ubuntu netboot install and fails
[05:16] <stjepan> can you help me/
[05:16] <stjepan> ?
[05:16] <tbasten> qt2, um it working but games are really laggy
[05:16] <reka> thespiritoftal: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]  (credit goes to Seveas)
[05:16] <erchache> i think i dont have sata driver installed
[05:16] <thespiritoftal> thx reka :)
[05:16] <erchache> yeha
[05:17] <Whistler> I removed firefox and now i cant view help  files
[05:17] <Whistler> any suggestions?
[05:17] <weiers_> sproingie - it does not even want to start my firefox now.
[05:17] <JingleBells> has _anyone_ run VNC on :0 ?
[05:17] <erchache> anybody know a netboot with sata enable?
[05:17] <reka> Whistler: reinstall firefox? :-/
[05:17] <erchache> how i can make my own netboot with sata?
[05:17] <Nermal> hmmmm
[05:18] <Nermal> any gstreamer plugins play m4a files ?
[05:18] <reka> Whistler: hmmm, looks like the help system is actually called 'yelp'
[05:18] <delire> great news: http://news.com.com/IBM+steps+into+open-source+Java+project/2100-7344_3-5798290.html?tag=nefd.top
[05:18] <stjepan> so?
[05:18] <stjepan> help me, please
[05:18] <Whistler> i know
[05:18] <stjepan> :(
[05:18] <reka> Whistler: maybe you removed that somehow...
[05:18] <Whistler> yelp: Depends: mozilla-firefox but it is not going to be installed
[05:18] <Nermal> ah.. faac
[05:18] <delire> Whistler: help fiels are in html. your default html reader is firefox. therefore you won't be able to read help file with your uninstalled default browser.
[05:18] <stjepan> :(
[05:19] <Amaranth> Whistler: Get rid of backports?
[05:19] <reka> stjepan: i don't know what your problem is....you never answered when i asked.
[05:19] <Whistler> so how can i make opera my default browser?
[05:19] <Amaranth> you can have opera be your default, you just have to leave firefox installed
[05:19] <Whistler> eem
[05:20] <delire> Whistler: there'll be something in the gnome control center to set this. have a poke around -- i don't use gnome here.
[05:20] <Amaranth> System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[05:20] <sproingie> weiers_: not sure, it might not like the old profile info?  mozilla suite is notoriously fickle about old profiles
[05:20] <Whistler> Amaranth this sounds like windows that i have to have IE installed
[05:20] <Whistler> theres no opera in that list
[05:20] <Amaranth> Whistler: It's exactly the same, actually.
[05:20] <Amaranth> blame opera :P
[05:20] <Amaranth> they need to put themselves in that list
[05:20] <stjepan> sorry, reka?
[05:21] <stjepan> reka: can you repeat that, please?
[05:21] <Amaranth> Whistler: Windows uses IE for help, etc. Ubuntu uses firefox for help, etc.
[05:21] <Whistler> anyway what should i do tu make opera default?
[05:21] <Whistler> to
[05:21] <JingleBells> i'd rather have firefox installed than IE anyday :)
[05:21] <Whistler> me too
[05:21] <Whistler> =]
[05:21] <delire> i'd rather be sitting on a beach earning 20%
[05:22] <nalioth> Whistler: system  > preferencec > preferred apps
[05:22] <Amaranth> eventually we'll have the gecko runtime environment seperate from firefox and yelp can just use it
[05:22] <delire> hmm
[05:22] <Whistler> nalioth theres no opera in that list
[05:22] <MIK3MAN> is there a repository I should be adding to install apt-get install java-package fakeroot??
[05:22] <Amaranth> Whistler: There is a 'custom' though.
[05:22] <nalioth> Whistler: i believe you can browse or add it
[05:22] <stjepan> reka?
[05:22] <Amaranth> MIK3MAN: multiverse
[05:22] <ep> What's a well regarded command line IRC client?
[05:23] <Amaranth> ep: irssi
[05:23] <stjepan> can you repeat that, pls?
[05:23] <weiers_> sproingie What is better. Reinstall the whole thing, but do it properly this time, or uninstall firefox and thunderbird and reinstall via synaptic?
[05:23] <Whistler> i am setting custom
[05:23] <MIK3MAN> Amaranth: I have it, and its updated
[05:23] <Whistler> opera %s
[05:23] <weiers_> sproingie, but as I said, I also cannot get nautilus to launch
[05:23] <Whistler> should i run enable run in terminal?
[05:24] <sproingie> weiers_: i don't know what's in your old home ... it might be better to just copy out your old /home somewhere else and selectively copy stuff back in (but not desktop stuff like icons, you'll want to recreate those)
[05:24] <nalioth> Whistler: opera is not a terminal program
[05:25] <MIK3MAN> Amaranth: correction, I dont have it, I have universe... can you show me??
[05:25] <nalioth> weiers_: sproingie is talking about all those nifty little .folders with your settings
[05:25] <Amaranth> !repositories
[05:25] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:25] <sproingie> weiers_: you can probably find your old mail file somewhere and reimport it, for example.  but using your old settings all at once may just cause pain
[05:25] <Amaranth> MIK3MAN: go there
[05:25] <erchache> how i can load scsi module on boot:  when i try to install?
[05:25] <erchache> i have sata
[05:25] <Whistler> any way of installing few apps via single apt-get command?
[05:25] <nalioths_dog> MIK3MAN: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:25] <Gourami> sproingie: if I go to computer the mount sits there exactly like filesystem does
[05:25] <nalioth> Whistler: list them on the same command
[05:25] <Amaranth> Whistler: sudo apt-get install foo bar baz
[05:25] <MIK3MAN> thanks guys!
[05:25] <Whistler> thx
[05:25] <sproingie> erchache: you should probably mention you're using PXE boot, lest people give you the same bad advice :)
[05:25] <sproingie> Gourami: a mount point is a filesystem
[05:26] <sproingie> when it's mounted anyway
[05:26] <Gourami> sproingie: how would you ref to that via terminal ?
[05:26] <sproingie> Gourami: you just cd to wherever you have it mounted
[05:26] <Gourami> \\mountname ?
[05:26] <sproingie> Gourami: i don't know where it puts smb mounts
[05:27] <Gourami> sproingie: thats my problem I dunno where it is
[05:27] <sproingie> Gourami: type 'mount' in a terminal
[05:27] <sproingie> Gourami: that will show you all your current mounts
[05:27] <Whistler> grr,
[05:27] <wing`> someone there can help me please?
[05:27] <sproingie> wing`: just ask
[05:27] <Gourami> ah ha /media/....
[05:27] <wing`> i downloaded enemy territory from 2 different website with 2 differente download managers and it gives me same fucking error
[05:28] <wing`> Md5 checksum
[05:28] <Gourami> what an odd place, thanks though sproingie
[05:28] <sproingie> media, what a wrong place to put smb mounts
[05:28] <wing`> error in md5 checksum
[05:28] <sproingie> it's probably a LSB thing
[05:28] <Gourami> sproingie: how can I kill it
[05:28] <sproingie> Gourami: umount /whatever/mount/point
[05:28] <sproingie> Gourami: note there's only one 'm' in umount.  blame at&t
[05:29] <wing`> sproingie, do you know how to fix that?
[05:29] <dverzolla> Hi, I want port the openoffice of Ubuntu-hoary to my default language (pt_BR). I find openoffice in the /pool/main/o/ directory. If I change the .deb's from default openoffice to my openoffice version this will work? My idea are do a CD for some students with total pt_BR support.
[05:29] <sproingie> Gourami: one 'n' even
[05:29] <sproingie> wing`: don't use the US repositories
[05:29] <sproingie> wing`: they appear to be permanently hosed
[05:29] <hacked`> guys, how do i know which driver my wifi card is using ?
[05:30] <wing`> ??, sry i dont get it
[05:30] <wing`> repositories?
[05:30] <reka> sproingie: interesting ... how is that at&t's fault?
[05:30] <Amaranth> reka: UNIX legacy
[05:30] <Gourami> sproingie: I get mount disagrees with fstab
[05:30] <thor|afk> sproingie: heh - I don't think he's getting enemy territory from a repo ;)
[05:31] <supernix> have they released a doc on how to secure ubuntu ?
[05:31] <wing`> im downloading it directly from IDSOFTWARE ftp
[05:31] <Gourami> sproingie: nevermind I had to do sudo
[05:32] <wing`> thor|afk, do you know what could be?
[05:32] <Whistler> can i have gnome and xfce installed at the same time?
[05:32] <weiers_> sproingie ... a logout and login got the programmes to work again
[05:32] <supernix> Whistler: I would think so I have Gnome and KDE at the same time
[05:33] <supernix> They are both just windows managers right ?
[05:33] <thor|afk> wing`: no idea, sorry - md5sum errors suggest bad downloads, of course
[05:33] <Amaranth> Whistler: I've got GNOME, KDE, and XFCE all on this machine.
[05:33] <dverzolla> Hi, I want port the openoffice of Ubuntu-hoary to my default language (pt_BR). I find openoffice in the /pool/main/o/ directory. If I change the .deb's from default openoffice to my openoffice version this will work? My idea are do a CD for some students with total pt_BR support.
[05:33] <supernix> what is XFCE ?
[05:33] <Whistler> Amaranth so can i just install?
[05:33] <Amaranth> !xfce
[05:33] <ubotu> Amaranth: Are you smoking crack?
[05:33] <Amaranth> haha
[05:33] <hondje> hehe
[05:33] <Whistler> =]
[05:33] <Amaranth> Whistler: yeah
[05:33] <weiers_> sproingie ... thank you very much for your help. I just need to get my sound system to work properly. Last time Crimsun helped me with that by telling  uobotu bot to give me rirections. I might have saved the directions somewehere
[05:34] <hondje> supernix: XFce is a light weight desktop environment
[05:34] <supernix> ty hondje
[05:34] <hondje> It's pretty nice, worth looking at :)
[05:34] <reka> dverzolla: i could be wrong ... but check out the openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br package (portugese - brazil)
[05:34] <wing`> thor|afk, i used downloader for x, and after that i tried with the simple download manager from mozilla
[05:34] <wing`> and it doesnt works
[05:34] <JingleBells> tried wget?
[05:35] <Whistler> how do i install xfce?
[05:35] <dverzolla> reka, but if I junt put the file in the directory of CD installation and I burn a CD. The instalation will install the .br version?
[05:35] <JingleBells> have you got the URL for it wing`, i'll download it now
[05:35] <hondje> Whistler: 'sudo apt-get install xfce4' in a terminal
[05:35] <thor|afk> Whistler: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[05:35] <wing`> its a little big
[05:35] <wing`> 260mb
[05:36] <JingleBells> yeah, i'm on 10MBit :)
[05:36] <JingleBells> and i need to install ET anyway :)
[05:36] <wing`> ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:36] <reka> dverzolla: hmm, CD install ... that'll be tougher
[05:37] <dverzolla> reka, yes. I want distribute a CD with openoffice.BR for my students.
[05:37] <Whistler> and how do i start xfce?
[05:37] <JingleBells> pfft, what a crap FTP server
[05:37] <Amaranth> Whistler: log out and click the 'session' button
[05:37] <Amaranth> Whistler: on the login screen
[05:37] <wing`> its the official ftp
[05:37] <dverzolla> reka, I know if have a channel with ubuntu-developers?
[05:37] <dverzolla> reka, You know ;)
[05:38] <Whistler> ok ill try
[05:38] <Whistler> =]
[05:38] <reka> dverzolla: not sure sorry ... i only know how you would go about changing it to brazilian after default english install
[05:38] <Quest-Master> dverzolla: #ubuntu-devel
[05:38] <erchache> fuck
[05:38] <Amaranth> erchache: Please don't swear.
[05:38] <dverzolla> reka, Ok, thanks
[05:38] <dverzolla> Quest-Master, Tks
[05:38] <erchache> i cant install ubuntu amd64 on my hp dl145 sata
[05:38] <reka> dverzolla: does the openoffice site provide a brazilian version?
[05:38] <erchache> i have a big problem on my job!
[05:38] <dverzolla> dverzolla, Yeap
[05:38] <Gourami> sudo mount or sudo smbmount ??
[05:38] <erchache> i never buy a hp server on my life
[05:39] <reka> dverzolla: is that yes for me?
[05:39] <dverzolla> reka, http://www.openoffice.org.br/saite/
[05:39] <dverzolla> reka, Yes ;)
[05:39] <reka> dverzolla: why not download that and install it for your students that way?
[05:40] <Gourami> to mount a remote share sudo mount or sudo smbmount ??
[05:40] <hypermodernist> Is there a Xen package for ubuntu or has anybody sucessfully installed Xen from the tarballs?
[05:40] <wing`> JingleBells, please tellme when you got the game
[05:40] <gyaresu> question: is nautilus capable of 'click + drag' selecting? cause i can't find any reference to it at all.
[05:41] <dverzolla> reka, I'm doing some CDs for students. They have very basic knowlegde about Linux.
[05:42] <reka> gyaresu: only in icon mode afaik
[05:43] <dabaR> hi.
[05:43] <gyaresu> reka, thanks, i'll look into it.
[05:43] <MIK3MAN> I have a problem : when I run the fakeroot make command it tells me that I should not be doing it as root, but as a non-root user. When I run as a non-root user I do not have permission to create the .deb file. Is there a work around this??
[05:44] <gigaclon> sudo?
[05:44] <wing`> someone there can help me with a lan problem?
[05:44] <DevGet> Is it possible to have booth kde and gnome installed?
[05:44] <bob2> MIK3MAN: use fakeroot as a normal user
[05:44] <gigaclon> yes
[05:44] <reka> DevGet: absolutely
[05:44] <bob2> that works fine for everyone else
[05:44] <bob2> aside from on like mipsel
[05:44] <delire> hypermodernist: a question that's been on my mind too. i see it's in SuSE..
[05:44] <DevGet> just install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:44] <gigaclon> ya
[05:45] <wing`> i got two cards, eth0 (router ADSL modem, configured with DHCP) and eth1 (direct connection to a windows XP machine) do i have to put IP Address and stuff in eth1, or just leave it DHCP too?
[05:45] <DevGet> k, thx :)
[05:45] <reka> DevGet: yes, if you want KDE
[05:45] <reka> DevGet: then jsut select it from the sessions menu at the login screen
[05:45] <bob2> wing`: depends what you want to do
[05:45] <bob2> it's find if you're ok to statically configure windows, too
[05:45] <DevGet> reka, k, so i will keep gdm as login manager?
[05:46] <wing`> bob2, i want to share the internet connection with the WIndows pc
[05:46] <reka> DevGet: yep
[05:46] <DevGet> good :)
[05:46] <bob2> wing`: yes, I know
[05:46] <Amaranth> fabbione: ??
[05:46] <Swoop|Around> question: how do i unpack a single file from a backup.tar.bz2 file ?
[05:47] <bob2> fabio uses like pana irci from 1943 or something
[05:47] <wing`> and i dont know what to put in the windows pc network meno (its all set to AUTO), and dont know what to put in eth1.. :/
[05:47] <fabbione> Amaranth: ?
[05:47] <Swoop|Around> somehow my xorg.conf is messed up (didnt touch it though since i havent used the computer for over 10 days, and worked before i left)
[05:47] <wing`> meno = menu
[05:47] <JingleBells> right, just downloading off a mirror wings, 1.1MB/sec :)
[05:47] <bob2> Swoop|Around: man tar, tar -jxf foo.tar.bz2 path/to/file
[05:47] <Amaranth> fabbione: what was that?
[05:47] <Swoop|Around> so i want to extract only the xorg.conf file from the backup.tar.bz2
[05:47] <bob2> wing`: well, decide what you want to do
[05:47] <Swoop|Around> thanks bob2 :D trying now
[05:47] <wing`> bob2, i dont know what to do, i just want it to work
[05:48] <bob2> wing`: well, you need to make some sort of decision
[05:48] <wing`> bob2, about what?
[05:48] <masterplan> hi, if i install the ubuntu AMD64 version, will all the packages i install be 64bit complaint/
[05:48] <bob2> wing`: go find a windows using friend and get them to show you how to configure windows with a statically assigned ip
[05:48] <wing`> i can do that
[05:48] <masterplan> what is BREEZY ?
[05:48] <bob2> masterplan: nearly all the packages in the ubuntu amd64 port are 64-bit amd64 binaries, yes
[05:49] <dabaR> wing`: its easy.
[05:49] <fabbione> Amaranth: my client remembers bans and kicks people on join if bans expired for any reason
[05:49] <bob2> masterplan: the development version of ubuntu, which is not ready for general users yet
[05:49] <sproingie> masterplan: yes, everything you install is 64bit.  you will probably want to add a 32bit chroot for some apps tho
[05:49] <dabaR>  /query me
[05:49] <masterplan> how can i know if a package is or not ?
[05:49] <wing`> but i dont know what gateway i should put, what ip address in both eth
[05:49] <bob2> masterplan: is it openoffice? no? then it's native.
[05:49] <bob2> wing`: the gateway is the internal ip of your linux machine
[05:49] <masterplan> k
[05:49] <masterplan> :)
[05:49] <sproingie> bob2: openoffice is 32bit?
[05:49] <masterplan> how can i find informatin on chrooting 32bit?
[05:49] <bob2> (afaik)
[05:50] <sproingie> !32bit
[05:50] <ubotu> sproingie: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:50] <masterplan> yeah
[05:50] <dabaR> gateway is usually not needed.
[05:50] <bob2> sproingie: I'm pretty sure it still doesn't build on amd64
[05:50] <sproingie> !chroot
[05:50] <wing`> bob2, ok so it is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <ubotu> methinks chroot is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[05:50] <bob2> dabaR: gateway is always needed
[05:50] <dabaR> for what?
[05:50] <masterplan> tnx
[05:50] <Amaranth> fabbione: we do unban some of those people...
[05:50] <sproingie> masterplan: that link above is an excellent resource for 32bit chroot
[05:50] <bob2> dabaR: so the computer can reach the internet?
[05:50] <_frank> masterplan: a few things are hard to get working. flash pluggin, windows codecs, I had problems with sound and media players for KDE
[05:50] <dabaR> what are you guys setting up?
[05:51] <samantacruch> hi friends
[05:51] <sproingie> i installed 32bit firefox to get flash
[05:51] <dabaR> ho friend/
[05:51] <dabaR> hi.
[05:51] <samantacruch> i need to know how can i say UBUNTU to load proftpd at Start (boot) .. thanks!
[05:51] <sproingie> not that i ever make much use of flash actually, but it's nice to have sometimes
[05:51] <_frank> sproingie: did you get kaffeine to work?
[05:51] <MIK3MAN> bob2: when I run the makeroot command as a non-root user it denies me permission to compile the .deb file I need to dpkg....
[05:51] <samantacruch> =)
[05:51] <bob2> samantacruch: just install it
[05:52] <bob2> MIK3MAN: you mean "fakeroot"?
[05:52] <sproingie> _frank: far as i know, that works in 32bit.  come to think of it, sound didn't work tho.  i don't do much media stuff on the linux box
[05:52] <samantacruch> bob2,  but dont start at boot
[05:52] <sproingie> _frank: er i mean it works in 64 bit
[05:52] <MIK3MAN> bob2: yeah sorry, fakeroot
[05:52] <bob2> MIK3MAN: also, you'd need to paste the entire error, including the command line you used to #flood
[05:52] <bob2> sproingie: yes it does
[05:52] <bob2> bah
[05:52] <bob2> samantacruch: yes it does
[05:52] <_frank> sproingie: I never could get kaffeine to work. And had a hard time getting the chroot to see stuff in /media even though /media was binded
[05:52] <smite> hey.. how can i upgrade libc6 to version 2.3.2.ds1-21?
[05:52] <samantacruch> bob2, i'm sure it dont
[05:53] <bob2> samantacruch: and I'm sure it does
[05:53] <sproingie> only media stuff i use on linux is stills from my camera
[05:53] <unf> hi
[05:53] <bob2> samantacruch: explain why you think it doesn't
[05:53] <wing`> bob2, do you know where i can get a step-by-step tutorial for making lans trough winxp and ubuntu?
[05:53] <sproingie> obviously don't need many codecs for that
[05:53] <bob2> smite: don't screw with libc, please
[05:53] <smite> libc6 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is too old for most stuff... i need to install the newer one
[05:53] <bob2> you don't need to upgrade it, whatever you may think
[05:53] <smite> bob2: why not?
[05:53] <bob2> smite: no, you don't
[05:53] <dabaR> smite, it is bad for your health.
[05:53] <Spiritual_Vagabo> hi, i just installed Ubuntu
[05:53] <bob2> smite: the software you're trying to use is not intended for use on your version of ubuntu
[05:53] <bob2> smite: find software that is
[05:53] <smite> synaptic returns: gtk2-engines-experience:
[05:54] <smite> Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[05:54] <bob2> wing`: no, sorry.  it\'s just normal network setup
[05:54] <Spiritual_Vagabo> but I am unable to get internet working
[05:54] <sproingie> _frank: never tried looking at media in the chroot actually.  only external devices i have are my mmc/sd card reader and my camera itself
[05:54] <bob2> smite: so, your sources.list is broken
[05:54] <Spiritual_Vagabo> i have a DSL Broadband connection
[05:54] <bob2> smite: for example, you pointed it at some Debian packages
[05:54] <dabaR> smite, ya, your sources.list has something it shouold not.
[05:54] <bob2> smite: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood and we'll tell you which lines to nix
[05:54] <Spiritual_Vagabo> can anyone tell me wat I shud do to get it working?
[05:55] <smite> bob2: ok, i tried to use a debian repo because compiling experience-engine failed :-/
[05:55] <_frank> Spiritual_Vagabo: do you have a username/password for internet?
[05:55] <samantacruch> bob2,  because when he finished to boot and i try to ftp on he dont work and netsta -an dont report me any 21 used, then if i do proftpd command line it work!
[05:55] <smite> alright... how do i use 2 channels at once in irssi?
[05:55] <hybrid_goth> Spiritual_Vagabo: they easiest way is to get a router
[05:55] <wing`> bob2, i need to put an static ip in my eth1 (ubuntu) interface too?
[05:55] <bob2> samantacruch: well, someone broke it, by default it runs
[05:55] <JingleBells> wing`, I downloaded it off a 3dgamers mirror and it works fine
[05:55] <sproingie> she's a programmer, but she still pulls this "that's technology, i'm a girl, that's too hard" business.  i can't figure her out.
[05:55] <bob2> wing`: yup
[05:55] <hybrid_goth> smite: /j channel then alt 1 alt 2 alt 3
[05:55] <wing`> JingleBells, :/
[05:55] <samantacruch> bob2,  where can i put the proftpd command and ubuntu load me at start?
[05:55] <JingleBells> http://3dgxfer3ra.3dgamers.com/%5E1581417761/3dgamers/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:56] <Spiritual_Vagabo> _frank, yeah, but I have a router and its all set up on taht
[05:56] <wing`> but you got the same problem with IDSOFTWARE ftp?
[05:56] <JingleBells> it was too slow to test, you'd have been waiting 4 hrs :)
[05:56] <bob2> samantacruch: sudo update-rc.d proftpd defaults
[05:56] <Spiritual_Vagabo> hybrid_goth, I have done the easy bit, but it dont seem to be that easy
[05:56] <bob2> MIK3MAN: where are you running that command?
[05:56] <samantacruch> bob2,  thanks much
[05:56] <djp> anyone have any idea why firefox seems to lock-up at certain times? page appears to be still oading, however if you try and stop the load, press on the back arrow etc., nothing happens... if you try and quit you have to force quit in order to then restart firefox over again. any ideas?
[05:57] <JingleBells> md5 is 2d2373f29f02e18d365d7f1860eee435
[05:57] <wing`> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 5ccbde57e325af16acca64cc929dfa2e is different from b8b59bc515d86cc845fb52f5d2c14423
[05:57] <dabaR> djp: cause it is a program.
[05:57] <_frank> is the us archive still broken?
[05:57] <dabaR> is it?
[05:58] <JingleBells> 270965248 et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:58] <wing`> bob2, and what gateway i should put in eth1 setup?
[05:58] <rndrdbrian> A little problem, trying to mount my  usb memory card reader, "mount /dev/sda1 /media/xd -t vfat" gives /dev/sda1 does not exists.
[05:58] <JingleBells> thats the szie I have
[05:58] <JingleBells> size*
[05:58] <djp> dabaR: do you consider firefox to be a pretty flaky browser then?
[05:58] <smite> bob2: i pasted sources.list
[05:58] <tbasten> I have downloaded the ATI drivers for my graphics card. I ran the config and i have now got a "Error activating XKB configuration."
[05:58] <Chris_Tucker> uhm
[05:58] <dabaR> well, it crashes, epiphany more often, I use epiphany moer anyhow.
[05:58] <Chris_Tucker> how can i force apt-get to ignore dependancies?
[05:58] <wing`> LOL JingleBells
[05:58] <dabaR> djp: I mean, its a program, it crashes, thats how I think.
[05:58] <wing`> mine got 64mb
[05:59] <wing`> i think i found the error
[05:59] <wing`> :P
[05:59] <dabaR> maybe you can submit a bug or something.
[05:59] <reka> djp: something to try: type 'about:config' in the url bar, then filter for 'ipv6' and set the found setting to true.
[05:59] <Chris_Tucker> these dependancies on this specific app are wrong
[05:59] <Chris_Tucker> so i have to override, how would i do this?
[05:59] <JingleBells> the ID ftp was incredibly slow
[05:59] <JingleBells> 30k/sec
[06:00] <tbasten> Anyone know how to setup the drivers for an ATI card?
[06:00] <rndrdbrian> can anyone help please?
[06:00] <tbasten> i was first
[06:00] <tbasten> :P
[06:01] <reka> Chris_Tucker: er, forcing could lead to breakage ... but there should be an option: 'man apt-get'
[06:01] <Spiritual_Vagabo> wat? cant any one help me to get internet going on ubuntu?
[06:01] <wing`> whats better gnome or kde? :P
[06:01] <dabaR> rndrdbrian: well, it does not exist.
[06:01] <reka> !ati
[06:01] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:01] <dabaR> Spiritual_Vagabo: for what? wireless?
[06:01] <Spiritual_Vagabo> no, dsl broadband thru a router
[06:01] <dabaR> wing`: gnome.
[06:01] <dabaR> :)
[06:01] <Chris_Tucker> reka, i no longer need this, turns out its not a dependancy, but an already broken package for some reason
[06:01] <reka> tbasten: those aren't the "official" ati.com drivers though
[06:02] <rndrdbrian> dabaR, I have alsao tried sda1 - sda4, through to sdd1 to sdd4. neither exist
[06:02] <tbasten> reka, ? i downloaded them from the ati site
[06:02] <tbasten> reka, i got the ati installer
[06:02] <dabaR> sure it is connected? did it work before?
[06:02] <tbasten> so... where do i get from?
[06:02] <dabaR> Spiritual_Vagabo: ok, well, a router, that means set up your conmputer for dhcp/.
[06:02] <dabaR> and it works like a charm.
[06:02] <reka> tbasten: that wiki page talks about the xorg-fglrx drivers.
[06:02] <dabaR> rewboot power cycle, whatever you have to do,.
[06:03] <Spiritual_Vagabo> yeah dabaR
[06:03] <djp> reka: network.dns.disableIPv6, would that be the one? iti s currently set as false. should i change that to true?
[06:03] <Spiritual_Vagabo> i need to configure DHCP
[06:03] <tbasten> reka, on the ati dite?
[06:03] <tbasten> sire
[06:03] <tbasten> site*
[06:03] <dabaR> haha
[06:03] <natu> how can i execute multiple server clients in one shell???
[06:04] <reka> djp: worth a shot... worked for sluggishness in another FF user today
[06:04] <natu> i have the object files
[06:04] <dabaR> ok, later guys, Im hungry. Spiritual_Vagabo set up your computer for dhcp, power cycle the modem and router, bring down the interface, then bring it up, and it should work.
[06:04] <reka> tbasten: this site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:04] <djp> reka: sometimes firefox will completely shut down itself!
[06:04] <natu> how can i execute multiple server clients in one shell???
[06:04] <reka> tbasten: if you want to use the ati drivers, search the ubforums, possibly even the wiki might have a page
[06:04] <natu> can anyone help me....
[06:04] <Spiritual_Vagabo> dabaR, how do i bring down the interface?
[06:04] <rndrdbrian> so how should I be mounting the memory card?
[06:04] <hybrid_goth> natu: screen
[06:04] <hybrid_goth> ?
[06:04] <reka> djp: what version, ooi?
[06:05] <dabaR> sudo ifdown eth0 for example
[06:05] <dabaR> sudo ifup eth0 bringsw it back up.
[06:05] <tbasten> reka, done all of that
[06:05] <hybrid_goth> !screen
[06:05] <ubotu> hybrid_goth: I give up, what is it?
[06:05] <hybrid_goth> what!
[06:05] <hybrid_goth> some bot!
[06:05] <tbasten> reka,  can i msg you the error i am getting?
[06:05] <dabaR> powere cycling is done first turn off both router and modem, then turn on modem, wait for solid lights, and then tyurn on the router, then ifdown, ifdown.
[06:05] <andrewf> Hi, I just installed libflash-mozplugin and I can't get firefox working with it
[06:05] <reka> tbasten: pastebin would be better
[06:05] <xoz> djp: how large is your RAM?
[06:05] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: tell him what it is.
[06:06] <wing`> dabaR, can you help me setting up a network?
[06:06] <dabaR> wing`: likely:)
[06:06] <dabaR> depends.
[06:06] <tbasten> i dont know how to do that so is it ok to msg it?
[06:06] <hybrid_goth> dabaR: how
[06:06] <dabaR> I told you to /query me a while ago
[06:06] <djp> completely frozen again reka...
[06:06] <djp> xoz: 512mb
[06:06] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: you query me too.
[06:06] <reka> djp: what version of FF?
[06:07] <nova> Hi, how do I change icon themes in ubuntu?
[06:07] <djp> reka: 1.0.2
[06:07] <tbasten> Reading package lists... Done
[06:07] <tbasten> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:07] <tbasten> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[06:07] <tbasten>   xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:07] <tbasten> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:07] <tbasten> Need to get 0B/3185kB of archives.
[06:07] <tbasten> After unpacking 10.2MB of additional disk space will be used.
[06:07] <tbasten> Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:07] <kolcvk> guys , how to install downloaded .deb binary ?
[06:07] <tbasten> (Reading database ... 97904 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:07] <tbasten> Unpacking xorg-driver-fglrx (from .../xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb) ...
[06:07] <don-o> is there a wiki page that gives more detail about the X problem in breezy?
[06:07] <xoz> djp: i would use mozilla over firefox.
[06:07] <tbasten> dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'
[06:07] <tbasten> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:07] <tbasten>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[06:07] <tbasten> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:07] <tbasten>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[06:07] <natu> hybrid_goth: if i want to use a script to startup the clients???
[06:07] <reka> tbasten: STOP
[06:07] <tbasten> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:08] <kolcvk> guys , how to install downloaded .deb binary ?
[06:08] <don-o> kolcvk: dkpg  -i dowloaded.deb
[06:08] <xoz> idiot
[06:08] <kolcvk> thanks
[06:08] <reka> tbasten: do NOT paste in the channel
[06:08] <Antinomy> anyone understand the Debootstrap Error?
[06:08] <reka> sorry, should have forewarned him
[06:08] <natu> hybrid_goth: if i want to use a script to startup the clients???]
[06:08] <reka> tbasten: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:08] <keikoz> a little question... about what i can see in the dmesg;  where are in this listing starting the scripts of /etc/rcS.d ?
[06:09] <keikoz> i can't determine it ...
[06:09] <bob2> keikoz: dmesg has nothing to do with those scripts
[06:09] <bob2> except in that the the kernel runs init to begi nwith
[06:10] <tbasten> reka, ok, pasted
[06:10] <keikoz> dmesg yes but he can't give information because of one of this scripts no ?
[06:10] <stjepan> heya
[06:10] <stjepan> where is ifcfg-eth0 script in ubuntu?
[06:11] <reka> tbasten: hmmm ... why is it complaining about nvidia-glx, when you have an ati card.
[06:11] <vader> bob2: when you got me to do the modprobe apm last night.... it will even tell me when the battery is fully charged now, thanx dude
[06:11] <Spiritual_Vagabo> thx dabaR
[06:11] <maddler> hello!
[06:11] <reka> tbasten: you didn't follow the nvidia instructions did you? *wince*
[06:11] <stjepan> so?
[06:11] <Spiritual_Vagabo> i wil try that and get back if needed
[06:11] <maddler> is anyone using firefox > 1.0.2 on amd64?
[06:11] <stjepan> do you know where is it?
[06:11] <stjepan> or can you find it, please?
[06:11] <hybrid_goth> !screen
[06:11] <ubotu> it has been said that screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935
[06:11] <stjepan> never midn
[06:11] <stjepan> I will try myself
[06:11] <hybrid_goth> !good bot
[06:11] <ubotu> thanks hybrid_goth :)
[06:12] <tbasten> reka, i replace my old nvidia card with ati card so my system is currently setup for nvidia
[06:12] <reka> tbasten: i see.
[06:12] <reka> tbasten: remove the nvidia stuff
[06:12] <tbasten> eder
[06:12] <tbasten> eer*