[06:33] <ChocoCid> automatix, easyubuntu, manual editing of multiple config files... yeah ;[
[06:33] <feles> ok, installing wifi radar, thank you iter
[06:33] <ChocoCid> eventually x.org broke and i just installed edgy
[06:33] <ChocoCid> i figure i'll break edgy just in time to use feisty beta
[06:33] <me|ong> i have mine on gui.. so i'm in no rush to upgrade :P
[06:33] <AWOSLappy> cafuego, is there another recorder in Ubuntu that can record from the mixer like Audacity can?
[06:33] <wd> ChocoCid , me|ong  i installed 64 bit edgy and man, lots of things don't work, i installed breezy and things r ok, but dapper 64 won't nstall, how do u rate it?
[06:33] <me|ong> the gui doesn't change enough for me to care
[06:33] <ChocoCid> don't use 64
[06:34] <me|ong> ChocoCid
[06:34] <me|ong> wtf
[06:34] <me|ong> 64 is the shit
[06:34] <|thunder> wileyb; hey me too, compaw armada 110 laptop
[06:34] <wd> ChocoCid what?
[06:34] <ChocoCid> i don't use 64 because i don't have an amd64?
[06:34] <|thunder> wileyb; hows it do with edgy ?
[06:34] <cafuego> AWOSLappy: Oh, you're trying to record from flash?
[06:34] <AWOSLappy> cafuego, Yes.
[06:34] <wd> me|ong, i guess u use 64?
[06:34] <cafuego> AWOSLappy: sound recorder perhaps... dunno...
[06:34] <me|ong> yes
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> can anpone help me with this "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process" error
[06:34] <lando__> can anyone help me with xrandr and an ati video card? ati propietary drivers are installed.
[06:34] <wd> me|ong dapper?
[06:34] <Bonez56> hi all, i have a fresh edgy install. when i use the VNC server that is built into Gnome, every time I reboot it corupts my password. all of the details stay there, but I can no longer VNC to my PC as it says invalid pass. Anyone else seen this?
[06:34] <me|ong> but my server isnt.. i'm waiting to upgrade my OS to 64 but i need a new machien to do that
[06:34] <me|ong> :S
[06:34] <AWOSLappy> cafuego, um, Sound Recorder?  I see nothing to the likes of that in the Multimedia menu.
[06:35] <wileyb> I don't have edgy yet, just dapper 1.06--- the hardest thing to get working was the sound and dial up.
[06:35] <jordo23>  I have a dual boot system with a secondary HD that is formatted into FAT32 to share with windows. How do I install this to Ubuntu to show in KDE?
[06:35] <cafuego> AWOSLappy: I have a `gnome-sound-recorder'
[06:35] <wd> me|ong, 64 dapper is ok huh?
[06:35] <me|ong> havn't had a chance to try
[06:35] <AWOSLappy> cafuego, Ahhh okay.  I will go apt-get it :)
[06:35] <cafuego> wd: For a desktop box, you're best off running 32bit even on a 64bit cpu.
[06:36] <AWOSLappy> cafuego, E: Couldn't find package gnome-sound-recorder
[06:36] <n_i_c_k> Admiral_Chicago: you could try "lsof" which I think has options to show you which process has the file open.
[06:36] <wd> cafuego i was told i won't see diff in speed any way?
[06:36] <me|ong> you won't yet
[06:36] <me|ong> vista comes out this monht
[06:36] <wd> me|ong  damnb.
[06:36] <ChocoCid> the 32 bit stuff just "works" better
[06:36] <me|ong> and you can expect to see 64bit start comming out huge
[06:36] <cafuego> wd: this is correct. but lots of stuff (java/flash/video) works on 32bit and not on 64bit.
[06:36] <ChocoCid> ding ding ding
[06:37] <cafuego> wd: mainly because they're all more or less proprietary and their creators can't or won't support 64bit (yet).
[06:37] <me|ong> most anti virus programs have 64bit ones launching when vista comes out.. and a few other programs too
[06:37] <wd> cafuego  thats why i unstalled ubuntu,   wine, codecs lot of things just didn't work.
[06:37] <gursikh> .
[06:37] <cafuego> AWOSLappy: in `gnome-media' on Edgy.
[06:38] <jumassillia> iter , just a question , where are you now ?
[06:38] <wd> me|ong, cafuego, so should i install dapper 32 or edgy 32?
[06:38] <iter> jumassillia: california
[06:38] <cafuego> wd: I use edgy32, works fine.
[06:39] <AWOSLappy> cafuego, Kubuntu 6.06 LTS.
[06:39] <wd> cafuego for amd 64?
[06:39] <jumassillia> Cool :-) I was there few summer ago ..
[06:39] <cafuego> wd: yup
[06:39] <wd> iter, what part?
[06:39] <cafuego> AWOSLappy: sound-recorder - Direct-to-disk recording and play-back programs.
[06:39] <honk> If only programmers would comment their code!
[06:39] <iter> wd: la
[06:40] <wileyb> oops I men't dapper 6.06
[06:40] <cafuego> /* this code may look odd, but works fine */
[06:40] <wd> cafuego  ok, i was thinking about dapper because it's been out and worked on, edhy still in the mix.....
[06:40] <ChocoCid> edgy's released
[06:40] <ChocoCid> it's fine by me, but whatever
[06:40] <wd> iter, just moved form la to lancaster....lol
[06:40] <ChocoCid> i've had no problems with it since the beta
[06:40] <gumpish> man, it sucks using ppc... no flash =p
[06:40] <cafuego> wd: Edgy is okay, as long as you do a fresh install (the upgrade process is um, somewhat flaky...)
[06:40] <AWOSLappy> cafuego, okay I'm getting it.
[06:40] <feles> can anyone tell me how to disable the touchpad in ubuntu?
[06:40] <wd> cafuego ok
[06:40] <CharlieSu> How can I tell if the Nvidia module has loaded? it is changed in xorg.conf but i don't see the bootsplash and the NoLogo option isn't set..
[06:40] <tamacracker> I think I asked this question a few months ago, and I don't know if it was answered lol.. But is there such thing as a disc clean up or defragmenter?
[06:40] <jumassillia> :-) I lived on Hollywood blvd for 3 months behind the metro station ..
[06:41] <cafuego> CharlieSu: if X started, it's loaded.
[06:41] <CharlieSu> cafuego: how come the boot splash didn't load?
[06:41] <CharlieSu> cafuego: the big white screen with the nvidia logo
[06:41] <wd> cafuego, me|ong, man it just seems that after i install some apps ubuntu get damn slow. even with 64bit.
[06:41] <feles> brb
[06:41] <cafuego> CharlieSu: maybe they've become sane and disabled it by default
[06:42] <CharlieSu> cafuego: also, nvidia-glx-config enable didn't work
[06:42] <n_i_c_k> feles: comment it out of your xorg.conf, I think
[06:42] <me|ong> wd
[06:42] <me|ong> what apps
[06:42] <khalsa> Hello: Thanks allready to those here who have helped me. Linux Newbie (disclaimer) Ubuntu Up and running fine, installed PCI wireless adapter (D-Link DWL-G520 vb.2) and it worked just fine once I installed network-monitor to connect to my WPA wireless network. There is only one issue: While downloading a file, or playing a game (yaay tremulous) every 120 seconds or so it will completely time out for no apparent reason. The 120 seconds
[06:43] <tamacracker> Is there a tool such as defragmenter or disc clean up on Ubuntu?
[06:43] <jordo23> How do I mount a secondary HD (fat32) in ubuntu?
[06:43] <cafuego> tamacracker: There is no need for defragmentation (ext2 isn't broken like FAT32 or NTFS)
[06:43] <cafuego> tamacracker: cleanup wise, depends on what you want to clean up. users ruff or system stuff...
[06:44] <wd> Merijn ok, i installed easy ubuntu and checked everything i needed, pretty much, everything. and it crawled after that.
[06:44] <Duane> ssh the best remote admin option?
[06:44] <Duane> to view gui too
[06:44] <tamacracker> cafuego what is meant by the term "broken"?
[06:44] <at0m> whats the equivelant command for ipconfig in linux?
[06:44] <cafuego> tamacracker: they fragment over time
[06:44] <me|ong> you can view GUI with SSH?
[06:44] <Duane> ifconfig
[06:44] <me|ong> never heard of that...
[06:44] <CharlieSu> cafuego: are you 100% sure?? is there not another way to tell?
[06:44] <Duane> iwconfig
[06:45] <cafuego> tamacracker: it's not horribly hard to not make them do that (certainly not to the xtent ntfs/fat32 do)
[06:45] <cafuego> CharlieSu: 'lsmod | grep nvidia' will show you.
[06:45] <CharlieSu> ya i did that
[06:45] <CharlieSu> it is there
[06:45] <Duane> I though you could me |ong
[06:45] <cafuego> well then
[06:45] <wd> me|ong  after i installed  easyubuntu it crawled
[06:45] <tamacracker> i see....  i just wanna make sure my machine's tidy :D
[06:45] <|thunder> at0m; ifconfig
[06:45] <CharlieSu> cafuego: but so is nvidia_agp which was there before I did anything
[06:45] <digivore> does anyone know if there is a newer version to the at76c505a wireless driver?
[06:45] <cafuego> tamacracker: have a perv at debfoster, deborphan.. :-)
[06:45] <jumassillia> atOm try ifconfig
[06:46] <cafuego> tamacracker: due to the way stuff is packaged; when you remove a package, ALL files it came with are removed.
[06:46] <feles> ... >.> Hello again
[06:46] <tamacracker> oh good... that's what i want to make sure
[06:46] <khalsa> was my last message too large to be received ?
[06:46] <feles> So how do you disable the touchpad again?
 also what keeps me thinkin is, when I delete files, and it doesn't go into my trash can... i wonder where it then goes from there.
[06:47] <cafuego> tamacracker: On occasion you have leftover config files ("dpkg -l | grep ^rc" will show you)
[06:47] <cafuego> tamacracker: "Delete" removes them outright.
[06:47] <tamacracker> sweet
[06:47] <tamacracker> yes ill just click it and hit the DEL key :D
[06:48] <cafuego> Note: there is no undo on a delete.
[06:48] <feles> As well as who has some tips on setting up a share in ubuntu so a windows computer can see it?
[06:48] <wd> me|ong, cafuego, i just can't believe that people use linux only, man it's mind blowing, i dual booted for a while, but microsoft have me glued, damn apps...lol.... i know ur going to say "linux have can do better".. but i need my cell phone app, photoshp..etc
[06:48] <cafuego> wd: Gimp is as good as photoshop, you just need to get used to it (I did, you can too ;-)
[06:48] <qwerty> yeah it just takes time
[06:49] <wd> cafuego  no way...lol
[06:49] <tamacracker> wd i have photoshop on my ubuntu right now :D
[06:49] <cafuego> wd: really
[06:49] <qwerty> wine runz pscs2 ? :D
[06:49] <wd> tamacracker   really, oh i know with wine huh?
[06:49] <wd> tamacracker yeah do it?
[06:49] <tamacracker> Cross does
[06:49] <cafuego> wd: The UI is quite different and frustrating when you don't know it off by heart.. but after running gimp for a year and not using photoshop during that time, having to suddenly use photoshop is ANNOYING.
[06:49] <wd> tamacracker ok what' the diff between cross and wine?
[06:50] <tamacracker> Cross over you actually have to pay for
[06:50] <wd> cafuego    ooooo my gosh, really?
[06:50] <tamacracker> unless you're slick as i am
[06:50] <cafuego> Photoshop too, and a lot more.
[06:50] <qwerty> lol
[06:50] <cafuego> wd: Yeah, I was yelling at it the other day coz it didn't work like Gimp ;-)
[06:50] <wd> cafuego  lol
[06:51] <cafuego> it'
[06:51] <cafuego> s just a matter of being used to it
[06:51] <tamacracker> I just like photoshop more, more filters, and less work to create images
[06:51] <tamacracker> GIMP has a long way before it touches photoshop's plugins
[06:51] <cafuego> create images? that's what cameras are for
[06:51] <wd> cafuego well, i just dl cs2 and studio 8 ,  can u beat that with linux..... ( i love linux, just not enough apps)  lol
[06:52] <tamacracker> linux + photoshop > windows + photoshop :D
[06:52] <cafuego> wd: Gimp, vim.
[06:52] <wd> cafuego    lol
[06:52] <cafuego> Free, open. Not breaking laws when using them. much faster.
[06:52] <wd> tamacracker  lol
[06:52] <wd> cafuego  ok u win.
[06:53] <RancidLM> hey all.. could some one recommend a good instant messaging client for linux..? i like AMSN but find its a resource hog at times
[06:53] <jumassillia> ircname = juju
[06:53] <cafuego> Oh, and me+vim = standards compliant xhtml ;-)
[06:53] <tamacracker> GAIM
[06:53] <tamacracker> GAIM's beautiful
[06:53] <RancidLM> tamacracker: iv tried game but it doesn't have all the msn features that amsn has thats the holy downfall
[06:53] <wd> cafuego so r u dual booting now?
[06:53] <bimberi> RancidLM: gaim, although that's the first time i've heard it called 'beautiful'
[06:53] <bimberi> :)
[06:54] <tamacracker> did you try lookin for plug ins
[06:54] <RancidLM> :)
[06:54] <tamacracker> GAIM compared to AIM destroys AIM.
[06:54] <cafuego> wd: In theory yes. In practice i run Linux 100% of the time and haven't used Windows for ages. (except to convert that broken EPS last week)
[06:54] <RancidLM> tamacracker: no i did not im gonna go look into plugins
[06:54] <tamacracker> :D
[06:55] <cafuego> wd: Mind you, I could've done that via vmware, but needed to reboot anyway.
[06:55] <tamacracker> All you gotta do is tweak GAIM
[06:55] <wd> cafuego, tamacracker    ok i dont see to many people representing us ubuntu users....  lynucs.org    (my dream site)
[06:55] <orkid> join #ubuntu-devel
[06:55] <wd> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php
[06:56] <caveMan1> how can I make file browser start a video player of my choice when I double click on it?
[06:56] <wd> me/ says go there and drooool   like i do everyday for the last 2 years.....lol
[06:56] <itclanster> can anyone tell me a room for talk about linux kernel development
[06:56] <caveMan1> when I double click on video file
[06:56] <bimberi> !defaultapp | caveMan1
[06:56] <ubotu> caveMan1: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[06:56] <wd> oops
[06:56] <caveMan1> thanks
[06:56] <jordo23> Anyone know what codec packages I need to play DIVX and XVID movies through Kaffeine?
[06:56] <wd> cafuego  lol
[06:57] <jumassillia> jordo use vlc
[06:57] <Duane> anyone ever heard of EnGarde linux?
[06:57] <compudaze> jordo23: try installing libxine-extracodecs
[06:58] <wd> Duane not me
[06:58] <Staz> isn't that a fencing game?
[06:58] <jordo23> jumassillia: Is VLC the codec package or a program?
[06:58] <Duane> http://www.engardelinux.org/modules/index/index.cgi
[06:58] <crimsun> vlc is a program.
[06:58] <jumassillia> great program , trust me
[06:58] <compudaze> jordo23: vlc is a great all around media player, plays mostly everything without need to download extra codecs
[06:58] <wd> crimsun long time.
[06:58] <Staz> heh so not a fencing game then
[06:59] <jordo23> will install both....thanks
[06:59] <wd> crimsun i'm back trying this linux thing again, u know me.....  lol
[06:59] <jumassillia> any ideas on how to change the ircname ?
[07:00] <compudaze> ircname in what?
[07:00] <jair> hello guys, here is a guys comming from Debian :) and testing ubuntu for first time.
[07:00] <compudaze> welcome
[07:00] <wd> cafuego  still there or  r u drooooling like i've been the last 2 years on lynucs.org?  lol
[07:00] <jumassillia> the ircname from the whois command in irssi
[07:00] <jair> I have a quick question, the CD I download is a live cd and also the installer cd?
[07:00] <jair> I download the 6.10
[07:01] <jair> let me check
[07:01] <Flannel> jair: yes.  the liveCD has an installer on it.
[07:01] <compudaze> jumassillia: try /set real_name whatever you want here
[07:01] <RancidLM> im having a problem un-locking a package.. using synaptic is there a way to unlock  a version in the console?
[07:01] <compudaze> and then /save
[07:01] <jumassillia> :-) i try
[07:01] <compudaze> then reconnect to see the change
[07:01] <Flannel> jair: or, rather, the "desktop" CD, the "Alternate" CD is JUST an installer, without a live environment (textmode installer)
[07:01] <tamacracker> Wd
[07:01] <jair> Flannel: and it is any problem with me enabling the user root on the architecture of the system?
[07:01] <tamacracker> do you want to install photoshop onto your linux?
[07:01] <Flannel> jair: no problem no, but there's no reason to
[07:01] <tamacracker> it even runs faster and smoother on linux
[07:01] <nalioth> !tell jair about root
[07:01] <tamacracker> which is funny
[07:01] <jair> Flannel: why not?
[07:01] <jumassillia> lynucs.org .. not bad
[07:02] <wd> nalioth  hey long time....lol
[07:02] <Flannel> jair: because ubuntu is set up to not use a root account
[07:02] <wd> tamacracker yes , faster?
[07:02] <nalioth> wd: i'm always here.
[07:02] <jair> Flannel: I mean, I want to understand the benefit of the sudo.
[07:02] <wd> nalioth  no for me...lol
[07:02] <tamacracker> it seems like it's faster on ubuntu
[07:02] <Flannel> jair: read the link ubotu just sent you, it explains it pretty well
[07:02] <jumassillia> sudo = superuser :-0
[07:02] <tamacracker> and doesn't eat up as much resources
[07:02] <jair> Flannel: but then who is the root on the system?
[07:02] <noiesmo> tamacracker, thats using wine i take it also what version of photoshop out curisosity
[07:02] <tamacracker> crossover office
[07:03] <wd> tamacracker darn it, ur going to make me leave windows for sure this time....lol
[07:03] <noiesmo> tamacracker, aah ok
[07:03] <Flannel> jair: there is no "user" who is root, the root login is disabled, there is technically a 'root' account, because linux requires it (for file ownership, etc), but it's never used
[07:03] <tamacracker> oh trust me
[07:03] <tamacracker> between games
[07:03] <tamacracker> and the programs i use on windows
[07:03] <tamacracker> i have all of them installed
[07:03] <jair> thanks ubotu
[07:03] <tamacracker> im almost at the point of gettin rid of windows for ever :D
[07:03] <jair> Flannel: hmmm ok
[07:03] <wd> tamacracker  i thought crossover office was for offfice....duh.
[07:03] <jordo23> nevermind....got it....
[07:04] <tamacracker> nah it uses a really stable wine
[07:04] <wd> tamacracker really?
[07:04] <jair> and how long will last this release ? 6.10?
[07:04] <Born_In_Xixax> hi, having a strange problem with network.  by setting a static IP, i can ping my default gateway, and i can resolve and ping yahoo.com; however no other network services seem to work: i.e. http, telnet, irc, etc..? help!
[07:04] <crimsun> jair: what do you mean by "last"?
[07:04] <jumassillia> tamacracker waow
[07:04] <Born_In_Xixax> this installation worked fine for weeks until today...even last night
[07:04] <wd> tamacracker  so ur dual booting now?
[07:04] <Flannel> jair: each release is supported for eightteen months, but another will be out every six (7.04 is the next release), Dapper will be supported for three years, because it's a LTS (Long Term Support)
[07:04] <tamacracker> yeah... but i might just get rid of windows xp in all
[07:05] <jair> crimsun: because the only reason I do not use ubuntu is because of the (to much gui going on) and also the change quickly of releases.
[07:05] <wd> tamacracker  ur bold. i getting my courage build up day by day lol
[07:05] <Flannel> jair: I have no GUI on this system
[07:05] <jumassillia> tamacracker how long did you spent on li**x ?
[07:05] <jair> Flannel: ok
[07:05] <tamacracker> plus viruses and adware and pop ups and spyware tend to find my PC when im in windows...
[07:05] <caveMan1> in ubuntu is there a quicker way to set default application file browser uses than setting each extension one by one? for example to open video files with VLC I'd have to click on each video type and set it manually, instead of just typing in the extensions VLC should open by default
[07:05] <wd> tamacracker  i feel like a junkie, windows has me!.....  lol
[07:05] <what_if> I cannot install ubuntu due to corrupted graphics during install. Tried 6.10 amd64 and Alt-install amd-64 . any ideas ??
[07:05] <jair> Flannel: so basically I should go with Dapper then instead of 6.10
[07:05] <tamacracker> i've only been using it for 4 months
[07:05] <tamacracker> don't worry
[07:05] <tamacracker> once you get used to linux
[07:05] <tamacracker> you'll start to use linux more than windows
[07:06] <jumassillia> same herre but still ..
[07:06] <Flannel> jair: if you want to not reinstall quickly, yeah.  Dapper is your best bet
[07:06] <tamacracker> then when you get your hands on crossover office... you're never gonna go on windows
[07:06] <Flannel> jair: or soon rather, and even then, youve got 18 months
[07:06] <tom47> what-if is it essential that you use 64?
[07:06] <tamacracker> then one day out of boredom, you'll most likely delete windows lol
[07:06] <compudaze> caveMan1: right click on the file, choose properties, goto open with, click the dot on which program u want as default, click ok
[07:06] <Flannel> what_if: grab the alternate CD, install in textmode, then you can fiddle with graphics on an installed system
[07:06] <what_if> tom47: not really, does the i386 version work ??
[07:06] <tom47> yes and works better overall
[07:06] <wd> tamacracker,   well this time i bought a hp all in one printer and while i was at the store i went online to see if hp had linux drivers and it does so i'll be ok.  lol
[07:07] <jumassillia> tamacracker , true but few apps still not 100% compatible .. ;-(
[07:07] <jair> Flannel: but the things is that i like to work in a system that does not chage to quickly, and that is stable.  That is why i always has been using stable Debian sarge
[07:07] <what_if> Flannel: I refuse to use an OS that step 1 after installing it is fixing it
[07:07] <tamacracker> i dunno I've installed a lot of programs
[07:07] <caveMan1> compengi, yes that's what I'm doing now. I'm asking if there's a faster way to set this for multiple extensions
[07:07] <tom47> what_if yes ..... there are very few reasons to use 64 and many reasons not to
[07:07] <tamacracker> and they're all working normally right now
[07:07] <jumassillia> MusicBrainz?
[07:07] <BrightEyes`> damn it!!! i tried to install enlightment and it took off kde and many other data as well as adept.what can i do?
[07:07] <wd> tamacracker     my lexmark didn't play well with ubuntu  6 mnths ago.
[07:07] <what_if> tom47: allright, will give the 386 version a shot :)
[07:08] <defrysk> lexmark does not like windows
[07:08] <BrightEyes`> sorry.i tried to uninstalla dept
[07:08] <defrysk> lexmark is evil
[07:08] <tamacracker> lexmark hates windows
[07:08] <BrightEyes`> i hate windows as well
[07:08] <jair> Flannel: so i will go ahead and download the Dapper one.  Forget about 6.10
[07:08] <Flannel> jair: then Dapper is probably what you want.  It'll be supported for three years, and by the time it's out of support, there will be another LTS.  So you can keep going on a three year cycle or so.  Or at least, that's the plan.  I believe the LTS releases will overlap by a year or so.  I'm not an expert though
[07:08] <defrysk> windows = linux ;p
[07:08] <wd> tamacracker i tried trillian with wine it was ok kindof buggy last year.
[07:08] <jumassillia> tamacracker did you try to install musicbrainz ?
[07:08] <bony> i am unable to play vcds in totem? i installed totem-xine it plays dvds with menus and even normal dvds too, but not vcds i have to depend on mplayer to play vcds. In any player the quality of the video is very bad its bright and contrast i tried to adjust the brightness and contrast but i couldn't get the correct settings.
[07:08] <tamacracker> lol i had lexmark printers, then finally went to HP
[07:08] <wd> defrysk yeah i know.
[07:08] <tamacracker> music brainz?
[07:08] <Flannel> jair: yeah, that's what I would recommend.  And, you might as well download the alternate CD, instead of the desktop. It'll boot you straight into an installer
[07:08] <jair> Flannel: nice thank you for clarify this
[07:08] <tamacracker> uh... Bearshare even works with cross over office.
[07:09] <jumassillia> tamacracker yep a mp3 tagger super efficient
[07:09] <tamacracker> but then I found nicotine, and im satisfied with that.
[07:09] <jair> Flannel: what do you mean?
[07:09] <what_if> tom47: would you recommend dapper over edgy ??
[07:09] <specialbuddy> how do I connect to a mac?
[07:09] <jair> Flannel: Dapper have two cds?
[07:09] <defrysk> for long term use dapper
[07:09] <jair> Flannel: have two installers
[07:09] <tamacracker> the only thing that's keepin me to windows
[07:09] <tamacracker> is the MP3 player.
[07:09] <Flannel> jair: theres two versions, of all.  A Desktop CD (live CD, with liveCD installer), and an Alternate CD (Just the textmode installer).
[07:09] <wd> tamacracker  ok here's the question......   single hd dual partition?
[07:09] <jumassillia> which one?
[07:09] <snadge-w> can someone point me to information on edgy's new startup scripts.. like a FAQ or a HOWTO of how they work now?
[07:09] <jair> defrysk: thanks that is what i am planning
[07:09] <tamacracker> there's no installation files for linux
[07:10] <compudaze> that mp3 player do you use that's so great?
[07:10] <crimsun> snadge-w: http://upstart.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <tamacracker> nah I have two 200 GB HDs
[07:10] <defrysk> jair, for txt install get alternative , for lightweight get xubuntu
[07:10] <jair> Flannel: but I can install using text with the live cd version as well?
[07:10] <tamacracker> one for ubuntu and one for windows
[07:10] <what_if> will new software be backported to dapper or will i have to use edgy to get new software
[07:10] <caveMan1> is there any different between kubuntu and ubuntu apart from the fact that ubuntu is using GNOME by default and kubuntu KDE?
[07:10] <Flannel> jair: no. the liveCD only has ubiquity (the liveCD installer)
[07:10] <what_if> caveMan1: no
[07:10] <tamacracker> Toshiba F10 MP3 Player
[07:10] <jair> ohhh ok
[07:10] <specialbuddy> how come I can't connect to my friends mac through the network
[07:11] <snadge-w> crimsun: i have a problem with dnsmasq failing to start in edgy.. if i start it manually with /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start.. its fine, but for some reason i have to manually start it on bootup
[07:11] <jumassillia> tamacracker i see .. so what to do then ?
[07:11] <Flannel> jair: so if you download the liveCD, you have to wait for the liveCD to boot, then start the install, etc.  Which, is good if you're looking to try out the distro with the liveCD, not too good if you just want to install
[07:11] <what_if> caveMan1: you can install ubuntu and apt-get kde and you now have kubuntu, oh and the boot screen will be different
[07:11] <compudaze> snadge-w: does it give en error on startup?
[07:11] <jair> where is the link for the alternate cds, I need the text-like installer of the ubuntu, there is any difference between the xubuntu and ubuntu both Dapper Drake?
[07:11] <tamacracker> I gotta call up Toshiba and find out if they're ever gonna produce linux installation files :D
[07:11] <defrysk> xubuntu installs xfce4 iso gnome
[07:11] <Flannel> jair: Xubuntu will install Xubuntu, Ubuntuw ill install Ubuntu (Xfce and Gnome, respectively)
[07:12] <snadge-w> no error messages.. no startup messages at all actually.. it just boots straight into gdm pretty much
[07:12] <wd> tamacracker   wait, i just caught hell trying that install, had to write the grub menu.lst and all, still screwed me and i followed wiki to the tee..... :(   . i just dont' want to touch my win mbr, just in cast i uninstall ubuntu, i want to be able to just unplug ubuntu hd and keep rolling......
[07:12] <compudaze> but it doesn't start?
[07:12] <jair> Flannel: I see but both of them will be Dapper drake then?
[07:12] <defrysk> kubuntu installs kde
[07:12] <jumassillia> alright people good night gotta sleep
[07:12] <compudaze> is it set to run on startup?
[07:12] <wd> tamacracker   if crossover is all that maybe not.
[07:12] <wd> tamacracker  lol
[07:12] <Flannel> jair: Alternate CDs are on the same page... you might have to go to "more options", nope.  no more options needed for Dapper.  Just download the Alternate instead of DEsktop.
[07:12] <ademan> anyone know how the gnome-applet for weather gets its info?
[07:12] <jair> Flannel: all right so what i will like to get is the (Dapper Drake xubuntu installer cd)
[07:12] <snadge-w> compudaze: im not sure.. i used to know how the init scripts worked when they were SysV style
[07:12] <tamacracker> i dunno i like crossover :D
[07:13] <tamacracker> i just got it last night
[07:13] <Flannel> jair: Yes, Xubuntu and Ubuntu are both in all versions, jsut different desktop environments
[07:13] <shwag> so I just got a new video card. How do I tell ubuntu to reconfigure my X11 settings and check for the new video card ?
[07:13] <crimsun> snadge-w: probably https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/47438 ?
[07:13] <jair> Flannel: let me go to the site then, Flannel you were great, :)
[07:13] <tom47> tamacracker ... the free version?
[07:13] <ademan> snadge-w: well i believe right now upstart is working in "system-v compat mode" so basically it works the same way
[07:13] <wd> tamacracker ok  so did ur dual hd install write grub to win mbr?
[07:13] <jair> thank you very much
[07:13] <tamacracker> the pro version
[07:13] <tamacracker> but for free yes :D
[07:13] <jair> I will go check for those versions
[07:13] <crimsun> snadge-w: unless it's not creating /var/run/foo properly ?
[07:13] <defrysk> shwag, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:14] <tamacracker> wd naw, i have two HDs one for linux and one for windows
[07:14] <Flannel> tamacracker: You need to have grub installed on whichever your BIOS boots to though, unless you want to tweak your BIOS each time you want to switch
[07:15] <tom47> tamacracker the 60 day trial?
[07:15] <shwag> defrysk: is there an 'auto' mode so it doesnt ask me all these questions ?
[07:15] <tamacracker> i forgot what command i used in the terminal that automatically created my grub to work with windows xp
[07:15] <wd> tamacracker  yes but grub installed where? if u uninstall ubuntu, delete partition, if u reboot u'll get grub error, so how would u avoid that,,, besides fixmbr?
[07:15] <wd> tamacracker oh?
[07:15] <Flannel> tamacracker: grub overwrites the windows MBR, which then allows you to boot into whichever you'd like
[07:15] <tamacracker> rom47 no man... i have the pro version, but i found where to get it for free :D
[07:15] <tom47> oic
[07:15] <Flannel> tamacracker: ah, sorry.  you don't need my banter ;)
[07:15] <defrysk> shwag, run the defaults and check if the card is recognized
[07:15] <wd> Flannel  but i'm trying to avoid that. i even edit my grub menu list and still got screwed.
[07:16] <what_if> tom47: ok... downloading x86 version of edgy (hangs head)
[07:16] <specialbuddy> how do I make it so that if someone wants to see my shared files they don't have to enter a username and password
[07:16] <snadge-w> crimsun: i dont think its a segfault problem.. it just doesnt start.. i cant see anything in the logs about crashing
[07:16] <wd> Flannel i got title to boot into win, but error .
[07:16] <porongo> Werdnum, you have  a problem?
[07:16] <Flannel> wd: What?  Trying to avoid what?  not needing a /boot partition?
[07:16] <caveMan1> I spent almost a day to finally get xgl working on my machine, will I likely have to do that all over again if I try KDE?
[07:16] <Werdnum> yes, channel-wide versioning.
[07:16] <noiesmo> specialbuddy, you need to edit /etc/smb.conf
[07:16] <tom47> what_if i have an amd 3500+ and use the 386
[07:16] <what_if> tom47: you know, right now I am using gen2 @ 64bit with no problems
[07:17] <porongo> Werdnum, its allowed, so fuck off
[07:17] <wd> Flannel   no. trying to avoid writting grub into windows mbr on dual boot with 2 hd
[07:17] <noiesmo> specialbuddy, find the line that reads security = user and change it to share instead of user
[07:17] <Flannel> !language  | porongo
[07:17] <ubotu> porongo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:17] <specialbuddy> noiesmo, is there a way to connect to them?
[07:17] <noiesmo> specialbuddy, then restart smaba
[07:17] <porongo> !language | Flannel
[07:17] <ubotu> Flannel: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:17] <jair> Flannel: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/ got it :)
[07:17] <jair> ubotu: thank you also for your help
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you also for your help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <tom47> what_if o my way of thinking the reason I go this way is the relative degree of testing of the two version ie the user base
[07:17] <crimsun> snadge-w: probably the /var/run issue, then
[07:17] <Werdnum> thank you, DBO
[07:17] <shwag> defrysk: this is lame...its asking like 40 questions.
[07:17] <tamacracker> <,< i wanna be able to tweak my modem
[07:18] <DBO> Werdnum, yep =)
[07:18] <what_if> tom47: agreed,
[07:18] <jair> haha ubotu is a bot :)
[07:18] <Werdnum> DBO: I propose a !stfu
[07:18] <Flannel> wd: Thats difficult, because windows MBR doesn't know how to boot anything but windows.  You could swap your HDs boot order in BIOS, boot into grub, then whenever you want to delete windows, you'd have to switch your BIOS back
[07:18] <what_if> tom47: there isn't _really_ any 64 bit software anyways, aside from americas army and povray
[07:19] <Flannel> !stfu | Werdnum
[07:19] <ubotu> Werdnum: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:19] <Werdnum> dude, GRUB can boot into windows.
[07:19] <tom47> what_if and i could never find a case for the 64 version
[07:19] <defrysk> shwag, just hit <enter> for each question and check if the video-module is correctly probed
[07:19] <vnobien> Please help me: Edgy + aiglx + compiz + Radeon Mobility M7
[07:19] <tom47> what_if thats so
[07:19] <what_if> tom47: (bragging rights)
[07:19] <tom47> hehehehe
[07:19] <Werdnum> Flannel: sneaky, although RTFM and JFGI should be okay.
[07:19] <Werdnum> stfu and noob are just harsh.
[07:20] <what_if> tom47: I've got a dual core 64-bit processor running at 64 bits.. What Now... HUH ?
[07:20] <defrysk> shwag, usually the defaults are correct anyway
[07:20] <Flannel> Werdnum: no they shouldnt.  This is not an elistist channel. Go elsewhere if you want to belittle people
[07:20] <DBO> Werdnum, no no, they are not ok, we like to be more newbie friendly than that =)\
[07:20] <what_if> tom47: lol
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> vnobien: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:20] <snadge-w> crimsun: whats the /var/run issue? :)
[07:20] <Werdnum> Flannel, DBO: Not as in the literal meaning, as in the
[07:20] <vnobien>  tonyyarusso, thks
[07:20] <specialbuddy> is there a reason I can't see my friends windows computer on my network?
[07:20] <Werdnum> "search the web before you ask here" sense
[07:20] <wd> Flannel,   i want to dual boot with two hd, ubuntu on hd master and windowsxp on slave, i read to unplug win hd, install ubuntu hd as master, edit grub menu.lst, title winxp etc.... shut down, install win hd (slave) should get menu on reboot. i did but error loading.....i just want to dual boot and not touch win mbr.
[07:20] <crimsun> snadge-w: /var/run needs to be created on tmpfs, possibly
[07:21] <Flannel> wd: That's fine.  You can dualboot without touching te MBR, however, why are you trying to not touch the MBR?
[07:21] <DBO> Werdnum, we have found in the past that using those acronyms in here can have very negative effects, please try to type out what you mean if you think they need to google first =)  but really, just asking is fair enough.  Anyhow we are off topic, if you wish to discuss more you are free to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <tamacracker> guys?
[07:22] <Werdnum> DBO: I see.
[07:22] <tamacracker> I have a really important question
[07:22] <tom47> to you?
[07:22] <tamacracker> Does anyone know how to "thumb" open windows/applications?
[07:22] <Flannel> !ask | tamacracker
[07:22] <ubotu> tamacracker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:22] <wd> Flannel because i had a bad experiance with linux, so i deleted partition, on reboot i got grub error, couldn't start windowsxp. after reinstall, i learned to use fix /mbr  or fdisk /mbr, which sometimes didn't work, just want to keep security blanket..
[07:23] <specialbuddy> can someone help me out with networking to a windows computer?
[07:23] <tom47> wd security blankets are one ting ... the'windows-as-a-virus" is probably anything but :D
[07:23] <Flannel> wd: right.  So, the problem there was grub was looking for /boot, fair enough.  However, the problem with what you're proposing as a solution is the only way you'll get to boot windows after you delete linux, is by swapping the HDs back
[07:23] <kuja> !samba | specialbuddy
[07:23] <ubotu> specialbuddy: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:24] <Piquant77> Hey guys I have a prolem, I can't unshare a directory in Edgy Eft
[07:24] <specialbuddy> thanks
[07:24] <specialbuddy> what about macs though?
[07:25] <kuja> specialbuddy: No idea
[07:25] <wd> Flannel i understand, i want to swap the hd back, if i encounter problems with linux again, however when i swapped hd back grub still somehow installed on my win mbr.
[07:26] <wd> Flannel   still using two hd.
[07:26] <kuja> That's normal.
[07:27] <wd> Flannel  i guess i'm saying somethng went wrong after i edit grub menu.lst
[07:27] <kuja> When GRUB is installed, it'll install on the first partition of the first harddrive, IIRC, by default.
[07:27] <wd> kuja, i made ubuntu my master and winxp as slave.
[07:27] <Flannel> wd: grub will install on your primary.  What you'll do is swap so linux is primary, windows is secondary, and install.  It'll all install, and... should be good from there.  If you can't use windows by the default setup you'll need to tweak your GRUB a bit, it's pretty easy. to make windows think it's on primary master, simple two lines in grub, if you hae problems.
[07:27] <tom47> !macs |specialbuddy
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <kuja> I've had bad experiences using Windows as a secondary :)
[07:29] <wd> Flannel   yes. i did that grun menu.lst   editing and still ran into problems... i know ur talking about the title  windowsxp, (hd0,0) (hd1,0)  etc....  on reboot i got the title screen but wouldn't load windows... so i chose load up ubuntu.
[07:30] <defrysk> kuja, bad experiences with windows ?
[07:30] <wd> Flannel  oops grub menu .lst
[07:30] <kuja> defrysk: And that
[07:30] <defrysk> good experiences with windows anyone ?
[07:30] <bony> is it possible to open pagemaker 6.5 files in scribus?
[07:30] <kuja> wd: How many harddrives do you have?
[07:30] <wd> kuja 2
[07:30] <kuja> Windows is on the second?
[07:30] <wd> yes
[07:31] <wd> kuja i followed forum instruction
[07:31] <Squee> is there a wireless encryption that cannot be cracked right now?  I'm looking at wpa2 with ccmp
[07:31] <squidly> hello there.. I have a quick question what kernel should I use to get my smp support?
[07:31] <kuja> wd: That means for GRUB, Windows is recognized as (hd1,0)
[07:31] <defrysk> squidly, generic
[07:31] <squidly> defrysk, thanks
[07:32] <specialbuddy> i don't remember ubuntu sucking so much on networking
[07:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone have issues with Nautilus crashing when trying to make an icon for shockwave files?
[07:32] <Flannel> wd: er, nothing about title.  it's the 'map' command
[07:32] <tom47> !smp
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <kuja> specialbuddy: I've never had a problem I couldn't handle.
[07:32] <tom47> hmm
[07:32] <Squee> !linux-686-smp
[07:32] <baconbacon> kuja, Flannel, theres "map" for these master/secondary issues
[07:32] <ubotu> linux-686-smp: Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:32] <Squee> ?
[07:32] <Flannel> squidly: the kernels already have smp in them.  You using dapper or edgy?
[07:32] <noiesmo> specialbuddy, did you edit the smb.conf file as i suggested
[07:32] <Flannel> baconbacon: that's what I just said.
[07:32] <squidly> dapper
[07:32] <specialbuddy> I just remember it working from the begining with other versions of Ubuntu
[07:32] <wd> Flannel yes i did that map....etc   i was talking about the first line is title...... windowsxp
[07:32] <baconbacon> oh
[07:32] <defrysk> Squee, as I said , generic ;)
[07:32] <squidly> edgy would not work properly
[07:33] <Flannel> wd: right, title makes absolutely no difference, it's just the title on the grub menu.
[07:33] <wd> Flannel thanks.
[07:33] <squidly> edgy would take up 90% of my ram and load slower then windoze
[07:33] <Flannel> squidly: linux-image-[whatever]  is what you want.  k7, 686, etc.  They;ve already got smp in them
[07:34] <Qwerty> Microsoft released its paid linux called Vista, and its not even present on distro watch, its so bad
[07:34] <kuja> squidly: Odd, Edgy boots just fine on my celeron 2.2
[07:34] <Squee> squidly: Stick with dapper, thats waht im' doing
[07:34] <kuja> 512mb ram, a horrible computer.
[07:34] <squidly> kuja, dual opteron with sli cards
[07:34] <squidly> im also running everything on a raid/lvm setup
[07:35] <daWabbit> Hello, everyone
[07:35] <wd> Flannel i'm saying i folowed the forum to the tee and ran into prob so i unpluged ubuntu hd, but windows wouldn't boot, i got grub error, so i did fix /mbr which didn't work, then i did the fdisk /mbr which worked. i'm saying i wanted to avoid all this and still had to do it......lol   thats all.
[07:36] <tom47> !ask | daWabbit
[07:36] <ubotu> daWabbit: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:36] <wd> Flannel  scared next time fdisk /mbr may not work
[07:36] <iter> psh
[07:36] <daWabbit> Dual boot is a PITA. I quit doing it long ago. Hell, I have to keep a Windows machine, but I don't even connect it to the LAN
[07:36] <iter> it will work
[07:36] <iter> that's what it does
[07:36] <kuja> I let my BIOS let me select what I want to boot, seemed to work better for me.
[07:36] <iter> there's nothing mystical about the mbr
[07:36] <squidly> ok brb
[07:37] <Flannel> wd: I have no idea what forum thread youre talking about.  And, If you got a grub error, I imagine the forums howto is wrong.
[07:37] <wd> kuja i read that in forum ,   prob was every body don't have bios option.  what part in bios could i find that option?
[07:37] <delaney> Is anyone aware of why the date and time option in the system menu is no longer working on an edgy xubuntu system running xfce 4.4 RC2  i get the following when attempting to run it in console
[07:37] <wd> Flannel  uh oh  it was ours.
[07:37] <delaney> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:37] <kuja> wd: Boot order
[07:38] <crimsun> delaney: did you compile it yourself?
[07:38] <kuja> wd: However, for my particular setup, I just press F9 at boot, and it'll give me a popup menu of what I want to boot. If I select "Harddrive", it'll ask me which harddrive I want to boot.
[07:38] <delaney> crimsun, i used the graphic installer
[07:38] <Flannel> wd: right, that still doesn't mean it's correct.  Or that it's the only one.  Just install ubuntu like normal, with your linux partition as the primary master, and windows as the slave.  Then come back here if you still have troubles
[07:38] <daWabbit> delaney; I think it is looking for Gnome. Not sure what to edit. If you build it, it will work, or at least it has here
[07:39] <delaney> daWabbit, its not the same date and time option as gnome gnome-system-tools package handles that while in xubuntu xubuntu-system-tools seems to contain Date and Time
[07:39] <Vaske_Car> what does mean compile?
[07:39] <delaney> daWabbit, it has always worked before until recently.. ive never had problems till today
[07:39] <wd> kuja  ok so ur saying , unplug winxp hd ( which is master) set jumper to slave. install ubuntu on master. go into bios and chose primary master to boot?
[07:39] <wd> Flannel  sure
[07:39] <Flannel> wd: no, move it on the cable.
[07:40] <Rede> im having some difficulty setting up my dual monitors with nvidia. video displays fine in the console, but in X there is an orange tinge and a vertical black line down the left side of the second display... anyone had any similar issues?
[07:40] <delaney> crimsun, do u figure it might be because of RC2 .. ive yet to find someone running edgy with rc2 who might confirm
[07:40] <kuja> You know what the best way is that worked for me, to dual boot?
[07:40] <daWabbit> delaney; I've just had a bit of a problem with it in XUbuntu dapper and Ubuntu dapper for PPC. Building it stops the problems
[07:40] <crimsun> delaney: I'm running RC2 and cannot confirm your symptom.
[07:40] <wd> Flannel move winxp to cable?
[07:40] <kuja> Keep Windows on the master, install Windows. Install Ubuntu (let GRUB overwrite Windows' loader).
[07:40] <kuja> This has *always* worked for me and never failed.
[07:40] <delaney> crimsun, you are saying yours works fine.. and u also used the graphical installer?
[07:40] <Flannel> wd: BIOS will already be set to primary master to boot.  Don't worry about changing anything in the BIOS.  Swap the harddrives, so linux is the master, windows is the slave, and install.
[07:40] <Qwerty> what's the next version gonna be called?
[07:41] <daWabbit> Something Fawn
[07:41] <Squee> fiesty
[07:41] <Qwerty> oh ok
[07:41] <Qwerty> Fiesty Fawn
[07:41] <Qwerty> ?
[07:41] <Squee> yep
[07:41] <daWabbit> Thanks, Squee
[07:41] <kuja> yeah
[07:41] <Squee> np
[07:41] <wd> Flannel and linux won't install grub to windows (slave) just on ubuntu (master) right?
[07:41] <daWabbit> I just read it and I couldn't recall it. Must be the medicines
[07:41] <dorto> Next it will be GobbledeGook
[07:41] <Qwerty> one thing, why are most linux stuff named after animals, geckos particularly
[07:41] <Squee> i'm skipping edgy and waiting for fiesty, edgy is too unstable >_<
[07:42] <Qwerty> when's fiesty happening?
[07:42] <dorto> gentoo, slackware, fedora, suse, debian...how many of these are names of animals?
[07:42] <Flannel> wd: right, it'll install grub to the pimary master, linux.  And from GRUB you'll be able to boot to windows or grub.  Although, I'm pretty sure it'll install correct, but it might need a bit of tweaking for the grub menu to boot windows, come back here if you do have troubles.
[07:42] <daWabbit> Qwerty; No telling. Trying to make sense of Open Source naming conventions is a sure ticket to the loony bin. Or back to Windows
[07:42] <Flannel> Qwerty: every six months.  7.04
[07:43] <Qwerty> daWabbit, yeah lol
[07:43] <Qwerty> Flannel, ok
[07:43] <daWabbit> :)
[07:43] <Qwerty> dorto, lol, some logos are, like Mozilla, suse, ubuntu names
[07:44] <Flannel> Qwerty: ubuntu names are only code names.  The names once they're official are year.month.
[07:44] <Qwerty> oh yeah :)
[07:45] <wd> Flannel  ok.   if it will install grub on primary master being linux, and not touch winxp mbr being slave, i should be ok.  it's just strange that i did it that way and grub ended up on my winxp partition.
[07:45] <jordo23> IS there a howto on installing flash plugin for Konq?
[07:45] <jordo23> Nevermind
[07:45] <wd> Flannel  which meant i had to do the fix /mbr anyway....
[07:45] <Flannel> wd: make sure you swap them on the cable, and the jumpers (although, why aren't you using cable select? unless your HD/MB is ancient)
[07:45] <Qwerty> the mozilla plugin would do that I thinks
[07:46] <Flannel> wd: and, if it did install there, then what it means is you hadn't actually moved windows drive to be the slave.
[07:46] <Qwerty> I personally dont like Konq more than Fx, more than IE, yes!
[07:46] <wd> Flannel which one goes on cable select?
[07:46] <Flannel> wd: They both do, if you have an EIDE cable
[07:47] <AdamKili> how do i link the command ruby1.8 to ruby?
[07:47] <AdamKili> the command ruby1.8 works but a program wants the command ruby
[07:47] <AdamKili> so i need to link it i guess
[07:47] <rickyfingers_> adam: u could just make sim link
[07:47] <dorto> konqueror is good if someone wants a single interface for everything: file manager, web browser, ftp etc
[07:48] <dorto> gmail like web sites do not work well in konqueror
[07:48] <AdamKili> how? i'm still relatively new to linux, but learning a lot
[07:48] <Qwerty> yeah, as a file manager etc its good, but as a browser it aint :(
[07:48] <timfrost> AdamKili: sudo ln -s ruby1.8 /usr/bin/ruby
[07:48] <dorto> AdamKili, how did you install ruby? if you install apt-get install ruby, it will automatically create the links for you
[07:49] <AdamKili> dorto: i installed it through synaptic
[07:49] <dorto> AdamKili, in Synaptic, along with ruby1.8, also make sure that you mark 'ruby'
[07:50] <dorto> AdamKili, actually only selecting 'ruby' package is sufficient; it will automatically select ruby1.8(and other version in future)
[07:51] <Deedubb> Hello. I'm using an Nvidia RAID 0 and according to http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/utnubu-maintainers/2006-October/000327.html and the reply, this bug is marked as fixed. I however can't get the newer version - do I need to add a different repo?
[07:52] <Deedubb> I would like to add that this issue didn't exist on Drapper. which uses 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 of dmraid
[07:53] <wd> Flannel  yes i do have eide cable. so, set both hd jumpers to cable select. put the ubuntu hd 1st on the cable, winxp hd last on the cable. install ubuntu as usual. ur saying grub will install on ubuntu hd and not windows hd? and i will have a option to load winxp without editing grub menu.lst?
[07:54] <Shadowpillar> SUPER IMPORTANT TECHNICAL QUESTION
[07:54] <Shadowpillar> is it it possible to, without data loss, to resize my partitions?
[07:54] <nofxx> hey there.... this is really freakin' me out.... im with 6.06... when I try "dpkg-divert -divert /file..."  i get:   dpkg-divert unknown option '-divert'   ?? what is wrong????
[07:54] <Shadowpillar> :P
[07:54] <Shadowpillar> nodrop the -divert
[07:55] <Shadowpillar> er
[07:55] <Flannel> wd: Yes on the former, and ideally on the latter.  If not boot without editing, it's a quick edit.  And, "First" means the end of the cable, not the middle
[07:55] <Shadowpillar> nofxx: drop the -divert
[07:55] <Deedubb> Any advice for my raid problem guys?
[07:55] <Flannel> Shadowpillar: yes.
[07:55] <AdamKili> dorto: thanks a ton, and u to timfrost
[07:56] <BrightEyes`> how can i add a local user to use the x window manager?
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: I plan on doing a dual boot, but I need to put another OS on my first partition
[07:56] <nofxx> Shadowpillar , i dont know what you mean... take it out ?
[07:56] <BrightEyes`> i can only log in as root.i have a user which now i cant get access to x server.what can i do
[07:56] <Qwerty> how do I run my own dns? I got an ADSL line, auto configured via DHCP
[07:56] <Deedubb> apt-get install bind
[07:56] <Flannel> Shadowpillar: first Harddrive, not first partition ;)  and yeah.
[07:56] <Qwerty> Deedubb, and after that?
[07:56] <BrightEyes`> i can only log in as root.i have a local user which now can't get access to x server.what can i do
[07:56] <Deedubb> man bind ?
[07:57] <Qwerty> ohk :P fine I'll rea that :D
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: I plan on putting a stripped down windows XP on the first partition
[07:57] <Qwerty> my isp dns is slow
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: and XP needs its own drive?
[07:57] <Deedubb> you can't just run your own DNS and take over the world. You can register a domain and get bind to answer (take authority) for that domain
[07:57] <Flannel> Shadowpillar: No, XP doesn't need it's own drive.  Partitions are not drives.
 Shadowpillar: first Harddrive, not first partition ;)  and yeah.
[07:57] <Deedubb> you can set it up for caching DNS queries for faster DNS response times...
[07:58] <Qwerty> yeah it needs to cache
[07:58] <Flannel> Shadowpillar: you said "Need to put another OS on the first partition" you'd put it on a separate partition, not the same one
[07:58] <Qwerty> and then i'll take over the world :P
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> I usually know this stuff, but I forget what XP will do
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: no, I meant that
[07:58] <kuja> For the record, XP will complain if all partitions on the first harddrive are formatted to anything other than FAT(32) and NTFS for me
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: XP refuses to run unless it's on the first partition
[07:58] <Qwerty> atleast sites must reopen fast than 'looking up' appearing forever
[07:59] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: so I need to resize and copy my current fs
[07:59] <Shadowpillar> and edit some files
[07:59] <Shadowpillar> make sense?
[07:59] <Shadowpillar> is it possible?
[07:59] <Flannel> Shadowpillar: right.  Ah, gotcha.  yeah, any think (gparted) will be able to resize, you just need a liveCD, since you can't do it while mounted
[07:59] <Shadowpillar> yeah I know that
[07:59] <nofxx> Shadowpillar  xp dosent need to be on the first partition
[07:59] <Shadowpillar> nofxx: really?
[07:59] <kuja> Flannel: Can gparted resize without deleting everything?
[07:59] <nofxx> yup.. sure
[07:59] <tamacracker> Hey guys, how do I make my menu transparent?
[07:59] <Deedubb> Last call - advice for my RAID problem please guys, I've done the google step, I found a 'solution' now I just need to know how I get this solution on ubuntu
[07:59] <Flannel> kuja: yeah
[08:00] <kuja> Awesome.
[08:00] <nofxx> xp... older versions need
[08:00] <rickyfingers_> Shadow: www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html is a really good livecd for doing what u want
[08:00] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: can XP be installed on a secondary partition?
[08:00] <malt> ubuntu about the most easy to use linux os, that is good for being used as a web server?
[08:00] <malt> and ftp and more
[08:00] <Flannel> Deedubb: what's the question?
[08:00] <kuja> Flannel: What if I had several partitions? Can I merge them without losing data?
[08:00] <Flannel> Shadowpillar: no idea.
[08:00] <Flannel> kuja: Not that I'm aware of
[08:00] <kuja> Oh well :(
[08:00] <nofxx> Shadowpillar , what "nodrop" means? sorry.. english not my native language
[08:00] <philip> is there a way to make known users appear in the login window?
[08:01] <philip> usernames rather
[08:01] <kuja> Back to install Ubuntu on my external harddrive then :P
[08:01] <kuja> s/ll/lling/
[08:01] <Flannel> philip: go to the login screen setup, and there's a theme for that
[08:01] <Deedubb> Flannel http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/utnubu-maintainers/2006-October/000361.html says the bug I have is fixed in dmraid_1.0.0.rc13-1 which supposedly should be available to me, but it is not (I have done a apt-get update)
[08:01] <philip> ok thanks Flannel
[08:01] <Flannel> philip: or, an option, or something.  It's pretty obvious to what it does
[08:01] <tamacracker> Does anyone know how to make menus transparent? Like when you right click and it gives you a menu?
[08:01] <Flannel> Deedubb: which version?
[08:02] <Deedubb> that I have now?
[08:02] <Flannel> Deedubb: Of Ubuntu
[08:02] <Deedubb> Edgy
[08:02] <AlienX> what's a quality audio player besides xmms?
[08:02] <noiesmo> philip, you need to edit the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf file otherwise ubuntu-theme will remain and you wont get your inages for users well thats what I found
[08:02] <Deedubb> Flannel: it finds 1.0.0.rc9 (2005.09.23)
[08:03] <Werdnum> Does this error mean anything to anyone?
[08:03] <Werdnum> Nov 13 18:12:53 rumpus-kubuntu ovpn-main[11540] : ACK output sequence broken: [23]  19 20 21 22
[08:03] <Deedubb> I am using the AMD64 version too, maybe thats my problem
[08:03] <Flannel> Deedubb: that's the current version in edgy
[08:03] <Deedubb> Flannel: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/utnubu-maintainers/attachments/20061029/f0edee2a/attachment-0003.mht
[08:03] <Deedubb> "We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of dmraid, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive"?
[08:03] <tamacracker> FVWM hard to use?
[08:04] <wd> Flannel if i have problems, and i install the way u say, both on cable, ubuntu on first (last of ribbon), when i reboot if grub doesn't give me option to load winxp, what exactly do i type in grub menu.lst, because the forum instruction seems to be not working?  title, rootnoverify, map (hd0,0) (hd1,0), map (hd1,0)(hd1,0), etc...?
[08:05] <Deedubb> Flannel: can I just try installing http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dmraid/dmraid_1.0.0.rc13-2_amd64.deb ?
[08:05] <Shadowpillar> nofxx: drop I meant
[08:05] <Flannel> Deedubb: Debian is not ubuntu, but you might try filing a bug report on launchpad, or asking the package maintainer to merge those fixes into the universe package
[08:06] <BrightEyes`> how can i add a local user to use startx ??
[08:06] <Flannel> Deedubb: debian and ubuntu don't guarentee binary compatability, but you could try it.  It's not supported though.
[08:06] <BrightEyes`> i can only log in to xfce as root
[08:06] <tamacracker> Can anyone help me on how I can customize my Linux?
[08:06] <Flannel> wd: Is there no windows option at all?
[08:06] <wd> tamacracker  lynucs.org  enjoy..
[08:06] <oht> well it's been a day with ubuntu, and i'm positive i'm never going back to windows :)
[08:06] <tamacracker> yeah I checked that site out, but im havin a hard time tryin to figure it out :D
[08:07] <oht> everything's humming along quite nice
[08:07] <infidel> #dropline
[08:07] <Deedubb> Flannel: ran into a problem with not have libsepol etc, no gold. What should I do now chief?
[08:08] <Flannel> Deedubb: Send an email to the package maintainer about it, or file a bug in launchpad (or both).
[08:09] <wd> tamacracker  go to applications, choose through look for gnome screenshots, u'll see a ubuntu distro, then select ubuntu and u'll see all ubuntu screenshots with list of apps installed, click on the apps u want to know about, even linux google site will take u the apps home.
[08:09] <tamacracker> alright cool
[08:10] <wd> Flannel ok i'll try ur way, thank u so much. brb , man if this works, i'm leaving windows for sure.   lol,   just need to be sure grub won't install on win, i don't want to have to fdisk /mbr again.
[08:11] <zek> hi, i dont know why my web browser cant connect to gnome-look.org, it says this: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete. - This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies
[08:11] <wd> tamacracker  http://www.google.com/linux
[08:12] <zek> anyone can tell me what can i do ?
[08:13] <wd> oht never...... man ur strong......lol........i'm tweaking like a addict for windows apps.....lol
[08:13] <zek> hi, i dont know why my web browser cant connect to gnome-look.org, it says this: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete. - This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies
[08:13] <zek> my browser allows sites to set cookies
[08:13] <wd> oht  dual booting, but i'm leaning towards ubuntu...lol
[08:13] <zek> !themes
[08:13] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:14] <Flannel> zek: it's a problem with gnome-look.org, not much you can do at the moment, even disabling cookies doesnt fix it
[08:15] <Qwerty> i can open gnome look :s
[08:15] <zek> so weird
[08:15] <coulix> hello world
[08:15] <Qwerty> lol
[08:15] <coulix> does anyone has a core 2 duo under edgy ? do you have access to the freq scalling ? i dont i wonder how to activate it.
[08:16] <Qwerty> printf("Hello World"); System.out.println("Hello World");
[08:16] <zek> is gnome-look.org working or not ?
[08:17] <Qwerty> its working fine here
[08:17] <xsacha> any idea what file this error is referring to: http://nanobin.nanosouffle.net/1872 ?
[08:18] <oht> wd:  ;)
[08:18] <zek> ok, anyone knows a web site with themes for gnome ?
[08:18] <defrysk> art.gnome.org
[08:19] <Qwerty> you could try the art manager maybe
[08:19] <Qwerty> gnome-art package I think
[08:19] <zek> defrysk: thanks a lot
[08:19] <zek> Qwerty: ok
[08:19] <defrysk> zek, also what Qwerty said
[08:20] <blind_> Friend of mine installed sun-java5-jre but his firefox still says "click here to download plugin"
[08:21] <Qwerty> blind_, you need to install the moz plugin as well
[08:21] <zek> i know that in debian is .deb and in ubuntu what is it ? :)
[08:21] <blind_> Qwerty: do you know the name of it off the top of your head?
[08:21] <Qwerty> sudo apt-get install jre sun-java5-plugin
[08:21] <coulix> apperently i have no i2c nor sysfs  modules, i will manualy compile the kernel
[08:21] <blind_> I think he installed that one, lemme ask.
[08:21] <xsacha> anyone who knows how to use stream?
[08:21] <Qwerty> zek: same thing, its a debian system
[08:21] <blind_> why do i have an underscore O_O
[08:22] <zek> Qwerty: uh
[08:22] <defrysk> blind_, cos you deserved an underscore
[08:22] <shwag> when I start Xorg with flgrx, i get a blank screen
[08:22] <Qwerty> zek: Ubuntu's based on debian
[08:22] <blind> Qwerty: he has -plugin installed, still not working.
[08:22] <zek> yes, i know
[08:23] <Qwerty> zek : so its .deb :s
[08:23] <defrysk> and not .untu ?
[08:23] <defrysk> ;p
[08:23] <Qwerty> lol no :P
[08:23] <dart1007> hi all!
[08:24] <zek> defrysk: no no, it is .ubu
[08:24] <defrysk> ah , ubu-get blah.ubu
[08:25] <zack> does anyone here have a ventrilo running in wine or windows i have a favor to ask
[08:26] <dfgas> is there a easy howto on getting unreal ircd and services hooked up
[08:26] <fugitive_> im trying to install Ubuntu Dapper thru network install from a FTP site. I get an error message saying "Release" file cant found. Buti nfact the Release file is present
[08:27] <Qwerty> blind - a 64 bit machine?
[08:28] <ruxpin> fugitive_: the path isn't set properly, most probably
[08:28] <fugitive_> ruxpin: i have checked 100 times it was perfect.
[08:28] <fugitive_> ruxpin: which file we have to point it to when we network install
[08:28] <GirlRiver> I have setup 1 on my network to use a /home  mounted from another machine and although it works for user1 which already existed on the server machine, I have a rights issue with the second user. I'm not using NIs at the moment. Can someone help ?
[08:28] <ruxpin> fugitive_: try to remove the last directory from that path
[08:28] <fugitive_> ruxpin: which folder i meant
[08:29] <fugitive_> ruxpin: infact i did  point to the Release folder
[08:29] <zack> No ventrilo users on here?
[08:29] <ruxpin> fugitive_: that's probably wrong
[08:29] <ruxpin> fugitive_: I think you'll have to point a higher directory member
[08:30] <fugitive_> then where we have to point the installtion when we do network installtion.
[08:30] <fugitive_> ruxpin: higher means the top folder ?
[08:30] <ruxpin> fugitive_: I don't know the exact way to do this as I haven't done it, but I remember having the same problem when I defined some extra repos
[08:30] <robokop> how can i remove a program from the autostart list with the cli
[08:31] <fugitive_> ruxpin: how did u fix it ?
[08:31] <ruxpin> fugitive_: I tried a higher directory, probably the last dir was dapper, but I can't be sure
[08:31] <GirlRiver> Can someone help me resolve a permissions issue with /home/user auto mounted from another machine ?
[08:32] <yomisssmo> hi all
[08:32] <timfrost> GirlRiver: does the uid number match on the two machines?
[08:33] <robokop> how can i remove a program from the autostart list with the cli
[08:35] <yomisssmo> can someone help me to install nvidia-glx in my ubuntu 6.10?
[08:35] <yomisssmo> please
[08:35] <Jewfro-Macabbi> yomissmo, what's the problem?
[08:35] <yomisssmo> tnx Jewfro-Macabbi
[08:36] <Qwerty> yomisssmo, you have apt-get available?
[08:36] <GirlRiver> timfrost, thanks for responding... as far as the uid, I believe so, this is the number listed in advanced tab and also listed via 'ls -n /home/user' is that correct ?
[08:36] <Qwerty> then its easy
[08:36] <yomisssmo> i had install the nvidia-glx packages using tye synaptic
[08:36] <yomisssmo> everything ok
[08:36] <yomisssmo> but i must activate it
[08:37] <Qwerty> oh ok 1 sec
[08:37] <Qwerty> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#METHOD_1
[08:37] <Qwerty> follow this after glx apt command line
[08:37] <defrysk> yomisssmo, nvidia-xconfig
[08:37] <yomisssmo> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable tells me an error
[08:37] <defrysk> yomisssmo, nvidia-xconfig
[08:37] <robokop> how can i remove a program from the autostart list with the cli
[08:37] <Jewfro-Macabbi> yomissmo, listen to them, they are right
[08:37] <yomisssmo> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[08:37] <yomisssmo> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[08:37] <GirlRiver> timfrost, the strange thing is it works for one user which already existed on the server, but when I added the new user to the server it does not
[08:38] <GirlRiver> timfrost I'm not yet using NIS, is that possibly complicating things ?
[08:38] <zek> hhm, i use GDM and when i try to install a login manager it says that the file format is invalid.
[08:39] <blind> Okay, I've installed the JRE, but this website is telling me that I don't have the JRE installed... O_o
[08:39] <yomisssmo> ok, i will try now, and tells you in a moment, THX SO MUCH
[08:39] <robokop> how can i remove a program from the autostart list with the cli
[08:39] <robokop> plz help me
[08:40] <Qwerty> blind - weird, but java apps work?
[08:40] <blind> Qwerty: yeah
[08:40] <Qwerty> then fogget it :P
[08:40] <timfrost> GirlRiver: Yes, the UID is the number listed.  NIS would make it easier, because all the credentials are from the same source.  Are both users defined in BOTH computers?
[08:40] <blind> Qwerty: friend of mine's having the problem, so i tried it, getting the same one :P
[08:40] <blind> Qwerty: I'm fine with forgetting it, but my friend won't be :P
[08:40] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, I'm looking, google is your friend, btw
[08:40] <Qwerty> I havent tried java either, my edgy is 6 hours fresh
[08:41] <timfrost> robokop: is it a program stared at boot?
[08:41] <robokop> timfrost it is started when i login
[08:42] <Qwerty> in gui its easy, under sessions
[08:42] <Qwerty> lemme search for cli, too.
[08:42] <Qwerty> my dns too slow today
[08:42] <Qwerty> bsnl as an isp sucks ...
[08:42] <timfrost> robokop: can you give more details (what program, how it starts, etc)?
[08:42] <GirlRiver> timfrost, yes both users defined. the only diff was that user1 already existed and user 2 (the one that does not work) was defined after I got the automount etc going for user 1. When I first created user2 the uid did not match but I changed it. I also tried deleting the user on the server including their home dir and re-creating them.
[08:43] <robokop> timfrost: it is beryl-manager
[08:43] <robokop> and i put it to start via sessions
[08:43] <teclis> blind: I have dapper, maybe it will help... have you installed the sun-java5-plugin package? have you switched the standard jre to the sun-jre(commandline)?
[08:43] <robokop> but it is malfunctional
[08:43] <scheuri> hi all
[08:44] <blind> teclis: i've installed sun-java5-plugin, but haven't done that second thing.
[08:44] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php?title=Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL&printable=yes
[08:44] <tamacracker> hey wd?
[08:44] <Zarthross> I need advice on writting a script file that checks to see if a certain file is change... but this file doesn't change very often.. how would i go about doing that?
[08:44] <tamacracker> Is gentoo a linux modifier, or is that a type of linux?
[08:45] <Zarthross> Gentoo is a distro
[08:45] <blind> it's a distro, tamacracker
[08:45] <tamacracker> ok... is there a program I can download that will let me modify my menus, make them transparent?
[08:45] <GirlRiver> tamacracker, Gentoo is a distribution of Linux just like Ubuntu , Red Hat and others are
[08:45] <blind> teclis: how do i go about switching jres?
[08:46] <scheuri> does someone know the differences between "i686" and "server" kernel images in dapper (6.06.1)? Is there a website for that?
[08:46] <GirlRiver> timfrost: can you help me get NIS going then ?
[08:46] <tamacracker> Does anyone know how to configure Ubuntu so that you can have transparent menus and windows?
[08:47] <blind> tamacracker: beryl
[08:47] <GirlRiver> timfrost: that's a "please" implied :-)
[08:47] <scheuri> GirlRiver: ;)
[08:47] <Werdnum> GirlRiver: you're a liar.
[08:47] <Werdnum> everybody knows that there are no girls on the internets.
[08:47] <scheuri> tamacracker: which ubuntu do you use? 6.10?
[08:47] <timfrost> blind:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:47] <tamacracker> 6.10 Edgy Eft
[08:47] <GirlRiver> Werdnum, please you're insinuating now
[08:48] <Werdnum> GirlRiver: ;-)
[08:48] <scheuri> tamacracker: there are many how tos out there telling you how do to it...however, as far as I know, it may still be a bit unstable...use at own risk
[08:48] <Zarthross> Werdnum, thats not very nice
[08:48] <Werdnum> Welcome to IRC, where all the men are men, the women are men, and the young children are FBI agents.
[08:48] <timfrost> GirlRiver: Sorry, I haven't attempted to get NIS working on ubuntu
[08:48] <tamacracker> I've been searchin for an hour
[08:48] <teclis> thx timfrost ;)
[08:48] <tamacracker> and all i keep seeing is Gentoo
[08:48] <zek> lol Werdnum
[08:48] <GirlRiver> timfrost, thanks.
[08:48] <tamacracker> now I find out it's an OS
[08:48] <robokop> Jewfro-Macabbi: i can't view that site
[08:48] <scheuri> GirlRiver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo
[08:49] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, um, why's that?
[08:49] <GirlRiver> shedi, looking thanks..
[08:49] <scheuri> tamacracker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[08:49] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, gnome or kde?
[08:49] <Zarthross> any idea how i can get a script to run after a file gets modified?
[08:49] <tamacracker> thank you scheuri
[08:49] <robokop> Jewfro-Macabbi: i'm in cli only, i need to fix my gnome atm
[08:49] <scheuri> tamacracker: welcome
[08:50] <GirlRiver> scheuri, thanks looking....
[08:50] <scheuri> GirlRiver: PEBCAK? ;)
[08:50] <scheuri> GirlRiver: welcome...
[08:50] <Staz> what would you guys recommend for a mp3 player that runs on gnome terminal?
[08:50] <Xaero_Vincent> i read that the next release of Ubuntu will include binary, proprietary drivers. Isnt that pretty conteversal?
[08:51] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, lynx should be able to view the page, It's a lot you have to do in gnome
[08:51] <Qwerty> java's goin open source
[08:51] <GirlRiver> scheuri, PEBCAK hah ! it was absolutely 'K'
[08:51] <Zarthross> Staz: i like to cheat and use Amarok although it is KDE
[08:51] <scheuri> ;)
[08:51] <GirlRiver> :-)
[08:51] <Staz> :) Yep I've heard good things about that one
[08:51] <blind> Staz: mpd
[08:51] <nofxx> sometime my radio stops and I need to reconect.. what is the script to reconnect and grab another ip from my dhcp server?
[08:51] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, is this what you did "I've added beryl-manager and beryl-xgl to my session startup programs, and now I can't log into my X session any more. How do I remove them again?"?
[08:51] <nofxx> i need to reboot.. i mean
[08:52] <Zarthross> Jewfro-Macabbi: were the debs?
[08:52] <Staz> I'll take a look thanks blind
[08:52] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Zathros, what?
[08:52] <robokop> Jewfro-Macabbi: yes it is
[08:52] <Qwerty> robokop - so X aint starting? try safe boot
[08:52] <Qwerty> and remove it then
[08:53] <blind> Staz: I love mpd. you can use several front-ends for it, including many gui ones :]
[08:53] <Zarthross> Jewfro: is it a debian package...
[08:53] <Qwerty> sorry, failsafe gnome
[08:53] <robokop> Qwerty: but where
[08:53] <scheuri> does someone know the differences between "i686" and "server" kernel images in dapper (6.06.1)? Is there a website for that? I am especially interested if one of those two images treads more than 4GB RAM differently...
[08:53] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, okay, try this: cd ~/.config/autostart :  rm beryl-manager.desktop beryl-xgl.deskto
[08:53] <Qwerty> it should be under system > prefrences > sessions and iunder startup tab
[08:53] <yomisssmo> hey guys, perfect, now i have nvidia-glx aceleration!, but i forget to save the page, can you put again to save it?
[08:53] <Qwerty> or 'might be' under .startup folder in /home/<name>
[08:54] <Qwerty> what page yomisssmo?
[08:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> yomissmo, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> remember it
[08:55] <yomisssmo> a web page that have the steps
[08:55] <yomisssmo> and how to solve problems
[08:55] <Jewfro-Macabbi> yomissmo, ubuntu wiki :)
[08:55] <yomisssmo> :D
[08:55] <robokop> Jewfro-Macabbi: thanks
[08:55] <oht> Question: i just installed mplayer rc1 from source because not all the codecs for the one synaptic installed seemed to be working, now this software update manager thing is telling me i should update my mplayer rc1 to 1.0 pre8 (ubuntu build), if i do, will it still retain all the codecs from the source build?
[08:55] <Zarthross> any idea how i can get a script to run after a specific file is modified?
[08:56] <oht> (wmv's weren't working in the synaptic build)
[08:56] <Jewfro-Macabbi> robokop, you may want to check out link yourself, it's got how to add it without killing X :)
[08:56] <yomisssmo> and the other problem, how can i change the screen resolution?, the max resolution that appears is 1024x768, but my screen have too much :?
[08:56] <Qwerty> yomisssmo, http://docs.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page and http://ubuntuguide.org rule too
[08:57] <blind> yomisssmo: google your monitor and then correct the horizsync and vertrefresh in your xorg.conf
[08:57] <yomisssmo> Qwerty:  thats the page !!!!, tnx so much
[08:57] <Qwerty> but thats odd, the correct nvidia drivers enable all high res :S
[08:57] <yomisssmo> blind, ok, tnx, i will try
[08:58] <Steven_M> hi all
[08:58] <segosa> i have, ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso, is there any way to install it straight away without first booting into the live cd?
[08:58] <segosa> like from the initial boot prompt
[08:59] <Qwerty> is it me or is google is acting weird today?
[08:59] <segosa> and if not, what iso *does* let me do that :/
[08:59] <Qwerty> segosa - download alternate cd
[08:59] <Qwerty> instead of desktop
[08:59] <segosa> argh
[08:59] <segosa> okay
[08:59] <Qwerty> its got no Live
[08:59] <segosa> ty
[08:59] <Qwerty> np
[08:59] <Zarthross> any idea how i can get a script to run after a file gets modified?
[08:59] <tamacracker> ugh!!
[08:59] <tamacracker> im missing a plublic key >.>
[08:59] <tamacracker> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.compiz.net edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E
[09:00] <Qwerty> no problems really
[09:00] <Steven_M> has anyone here used vmware player in Dapper?
[09:00] <zek> i have downloaded an icon for xmms but i don't know how tot set it lol
[09:00] <whaq> vmware vs xen?
[09:00] <troopa> Is there any negative security effect to using the LTS version? I know it is supported and security patches are released regularly, but does edgy have any new security technologies?
[09:00] <Qwerty> lol right click mplayer current icon > properties > click the icon graphic and replace
[09:01] <Qwerty> troopa, dunno but who needs support :P
[09:01] <kuja> I installed Ubuntu on my external USB harddrive via QEMU successfully. I boot into it natively, and it doesn't have an eth0. What's up?
[09:02] <troopa> Qwerty: All operating systems need support. IE; patches frequently deployed to patch security holes. :P
[09:02] <kuja> I know what driver to use, etc, but I just don't have eth0.
[09:02] <kuja> How do I make Ubuntu recognize my ethernet device as eth0?
[09:02] <Qwerty> hehe I meant like, online support, patches of course are on the way no matter what
[09:02] <zek> Qwerty: lol i dont know where it is, i have a shortcut of xmms music player on desktop and when r click - proprieties its nothing there, only emblems
[09:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> tamacracker, try gpg --gen-key url.for.repository.here
[09:02] <blind> kuja: what do you have?
[09:03] <kuja> blind: VIA Rhine II, it works if I do a native install, but since I installed it via QEMU, it doesn't work.
[09:03] <Qwerty> locate xmms ?
[09:03] <kuja> There simply is no device eth0.
[09:03] <Qwerty> must be under usr/share/ or something I guess
[09:03] <tamacracker> yeah i see that :D
[09:03] <blind> kuja, no i meant instead of eth0
[09:03] <RancidLM> hey all i just tryed installing ubuntu 6.10 on my pc and for some reason im unable to format and install i get a error that says "no root filesystem" when i have clearly specified a "/"  any suggestions?!
[09:03] <kuja> blind: wlan and lo
[09:04] <kuja> How does the LiveCD recognize network devices?
[09:04] <blind> hmm
[09:04] <zek> Qwerty:  /usr/share/xmms
[09:04] <blind> im not sure o.o
[09:05] <honk> I seem to be missing gtk.h and glib.h when compiling this program. What packages would I need to install to have them available to the compiler?
[09:05] <Steven_M> whaq: have you used vmware
[09:05] <whaq> Steven_M, yes.
[09:05] <Qwerty> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:05] <Qwerty> am getting this over and over
[09:06] <Qwerty> tho no apt stuff's running
[09:06] <Qwerty> update notifier's sleeping
[09:06] <Steven_M> whaq: in dapper?
[09:06] <whaq> Steven_M, no.
[09:06] <oht> where the hell does the ubuntu build of mplayer look for codecs?!
[09:07] <oht> it's obviously not the default location
[09:07] <Qwerty> zek : so it worked there?
[09:07] <zek> Qwerty:  is located in /usr/share/xmms
[09:07] <zek> Qwerty: i dont have any ideas.
[09:07] <Steven_M> ok
[09:07] <Qwerty> lemme try installing XMMS :p
[09:07] <Qwerty> but this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:07] <Infecto> hi all
[09:08] <Qwerty> bad, lemme restart GDM
[09:08] <honk> Does anyone know why I'd be missing glib.h or gtk.h?
[09:08] <zek> Qwerty: use the synaptic, maybe it works
[09:08] <Qwerty> same thing, it says another blah in use
[09:08] <zek> Qwerty: uh, ok
[09:08] <Qwerty> brb
[09:08] <AWOSLappy> Okay I have a saved hex dump.  the problem is, the hexdump is human readable, so the result is the file is not machine readable.  Is there a program somewhere that can fix this?  As in, a program that could take the output of say Hexedit and then translate that in to say an executable file?
[09:09] <dk0r> Im new to linux, just installed vsftpd, and I need to edit /etc/vsftpd.conf to get the app running. How do I do this via command line?
[09:09] <AWOSLappy> As in, the content of the file is a bunch of      000003A6  62 ca 5a 72 b9 30 6a 9a  88 b9 70 d3 ca 86 66 64 b.Zr.0j. ..p...fd
[09:09] <mzli> vi /etc/vsftpd.conf
[09:10] <mzli> sudo
[09:10] <Infecto> i`v got problems with my sound card it accidently stop recordig voice
[09:10] <Infecto> i dont know what to do
[09:10] <dk0r> mzli: Can you recit that?
[09:10] <dk0r> recite*
[09:10] <dk0r> 'sudo vi /etc/vsftpd.conf' ?
[09:10] <Infecto> i enabled anything in alsa and still problem is
[09:10] <mzli> dk0r, ya
[09:10] <timfrost> honk: headers are in the development packages (libglib2.0-dev or libglib1.2-dev)
[09:10] <dk0r> mzli: What does vi stand for?
[09:11] <blind> 6
[09:11] <zorba64> dk0r: or sudo nano -w /etc/vsftpd.conf
[09:11] <honk> timfrost, I have libglib2.0-dev and libglib1.2-dev installed
[09:11] <mzli> dk0r, vi is a classical editor in *nix.
[09:11] <dk0r> zorba64: What is nano -w ?
[09:11] <mzli> dk0r, but if you never used it before , it may be frustrated.
[09:11] <dk0r> mzli: the editor?
[09:12] <AWOSLappy> LOL
[09:12] <zorba64> dk0r: an easier terminal editor, -w disables text wrapping
[09:12] <mzli> dk0r, yeah
[09:12] <zek> Qwerty: works ?
[09:12] <dk0r> mzli: I never have. perhaps I'll try zorba64's method.
[09:12] <mzli> dk0r, are you use Ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:12] <dk0r> zorba64: I dont even know what text wrapping is.
[09:12] <Qwerty> yeah installing
[09:12] <dk0r> mzli: ubuntu
[09:12] <honk> must be my configure script
[09:12] <zek> Qwerty: what was the prob ?
[09:12] <mzli> sudo gedit /etc/vsftpd.conf
[09:13] <mzli> gedit is much like notepad in m$
[09:13] <dk0r> mzli: That even easier than zorba64's nano -w ?
[09:13] <AWOSLappy> And dk0r, vi stands for 'VIsual editor' per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi
[09:13] <Qwerty> it meant that another app is using the apt package manager and thus it cant function as its locked or something
[09:13] <zorba64> dk0r: if config files have their text wrapped at a certain place in the line, it may stuff 'em up
[09:13] <Qwerty> but I dont know what was using it
[09:13] <mzli> dk0r, yeah, the easist for beginner.
[09:13] <dk0r> AWOSLappy: ty
[09:13] <AWOSLappy> dk0r np :)
[09:13] <zek> Qwerty: ohh
[09:13] <timfrost> honk, yes, the configure script needs to determine where the headers are (glib-1.2/glib.h or glib-2.0/glib.h).
[09:14] <mzli> dk0r, but not best for master. vi is much better, but it's little strang to stranger.:)
[09:14] <AWOSLappy> Is there a program that can take a hexdump (as in the file says 00000000 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d ........) and make it into computer readable format?
[09:14] <al[e] x> anyone know how i can install nvidia drivers and keep linux restricted pkg installed?
[09:15] <al[e] x> nvidia wants to remove the linux restricted pkg
[09:15] <SableSlayer> automatrix
[09:15] <SableSlayer> automatrix is an easy way to install your nvidia drivers
[09:15] <SableSlayer> :)
[09:15] <zorba64> al[e] x: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:16] <al[e] x> trying to use this guide
[09:16] <al[e] x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[09:16] <al[e] x> when i try to install nvidia-glx it trys to install a i386 kernel
[09:16] <zek> Qwerty: and this is the icons: http://www.xmms.org/icons.php
[09:17] <zorba64> al[e] x: do you have a 686?, then try sudo apt-get install linux-686 nvidia-glx
[09:17] <al[e] x> using generic kernel
[09:17] <dk0r> can someone help me get vsftpd going? I keep getting the error "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[09:18] <timfrost> dk0r: do you have a different FTP server already running?
[09:18] <al[e] x> The following extra packages will be installed:
[09:19] <al[e] x>   linux-generic linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[09:19] <dk0r> timfrost: Not that I am aware of. I am new to linux.
[09:19] <al[e] x> when i try that zorba
[09:19] <l337f00l> hi all I just upgraded to Edgy and I'm having problems logging in and I need help I'm running failsafe gnome atm
[09:19] <honk> timfrost, how would I go about telling this configure script explicitly where these headers are?
[09:20] <dk0r> can someone help me get vsftpd going? I keep getting the error "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[09:21] <nothlit> Can someone tell me where the xcursor settings are kept? If I use the gnome wizards, the cursor settings only seem to affect gtk applications, will update-alternatives --config x-cursor-themes update the cursors universally?
[09:22] <rickyfingers_> dk0r: sure it's actually running? ps -ef | grep -i vsftpd
[09:22] <al[e] x> SableSlayer, according to automatix website, only i386 is supported
[09:23] <dk0r> rickyfingers_: I dont know. More over, I dont know what that stuff is you typed. Can you please explain ?
[09:23] <timfrost> honk: probably with a '--use-' or '--with-' option.  Check 'configure --help'.   What are you trying to build?
[09:23] <scheuri> does anyone know where to find the/a config-file in which is descriped how the kernel was compiled (options) on dapper?
[09:24] <rickyfingers_> ok that's a command u can type in a terminal to see if vsftpd is running
[09:24] <rickyfingers_> dk0r: u should see a line with vsftpd
[09:24] <honk> timfrost, I'm trying to build this xmms plugin, xmms-nsf-0.0.2
[09:24] <dk0r> rickyfingers_: dk0r@ubuntu:~$ ps -ef | grep -i vsftpd
[09:24] <dk0r> root     10548     1  0 02:03 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/vsftpd
[09:24] <dk0r> dk0r     11148 10565  0 02:23 pts/1    00:00:00 grep -i vsftpd
[09:24] <we2by> is the latest release 6.10?
[09:25] <we2by> called edgy?
[09:25] <rickyfingers_> ok it is running...u using a firewall?
[09:25] <timfrost> scheuri: the configuration is in /boot/config-$(uname -r) (eg, I have /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic on my edgy system)
[09:25] <scheuri> we2by: yes
[09:25] <we2by> does it support WPA?
[09:25] <dk0r> rickyfingers_: Soft or hard?
[09:25] <honk> timfrost, is this what you were talking about? :: --with-PACKAGE[=ARG]     use PACKAGE [ARG=yes]
[09:25] <scheuri> timfrost: thanks a lot!
[09:25] <Qwerty> zek!
[09:25] <timfrost> honk: yes.
[09:26] <zek> Qwerty: yes
[09:26] <waecky> hello
[09:26] <honk> should I use the package names themselves?
[09:26] <dk0r> strabes: The answer is no.
[09:26] <Qwerty> zek: umm, open properties, and dont you see its icon?
[09:26] <grant> hi could someone recoment some reasonably easy to use 3d cad software for ubuntu?
[09:26] <dk0r> rickyfingers_: No. No I am not.
[09:26] <Qwerty> in the basic tab
[09:26] <zek> Qwerty: you made a shortcut on desktop ?
[09:26] <Qwerty> um yeah lol
[09:27] <rickyfingers_> hmmm.  so in a termnial window, if you type ftp localhost
[09:27] <Qwerty> added it to desktop and panel
[09:27] <rickyfingers_> you still get the 500 error?
[09:27] <Qwerty> u need to change menu icon?
[09:27] <zek> Qwerty: just the icon..
[09:27] <zek> Qwerty: and btw i don't see any icons in basic :)
[09:28] <dk0r> rickyfingers_: What do you mean still? Nothing has changed. So yes
[09:28] <we2by> does ubuntu support WPA?
[09:28] <we2by> !wpa
[09:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:28] <Qwerty> you must see a small icon near name entry
[09:28] <Qwerty> if the desktop link has an icon that is
[09:28] <zek> Qwerty: aaah
[09:28] <zek> Qwerty: what a SMALL icon
[09:28] <Qwerty> yeah lolz
[09:28] <zek> Qwerty: let me try to change it
[09:29] <Qwerty> under usr/share/xmms, theres an icon file but both dont match
[09:29] <l337f00l> when I try to login like normal it gives me an error message saying that I have only been logged in for under 10 seconds then it kicks me out and tells me to run failsafe to determine whats wrong
[09:29] <scheuri> timfrost: are you familiar with the HIGHMEM option?
[09:29] <zek> Qwerty: finally
[09:29] <zek> Qwerty: done :)
[09:29] <zek> thanks a lot
[09:29] <Qwerty> it changed menu icon too?
[09:29] <zek> Qwerty: no
[09:30] <zek> Qwerty: only the icon on desktop
[09:30] <zek> Qwerty: but that's enough :)
[09:30] <timfrost> scheuri: No.  I note that it is set for the Ubuntu kernel, but I don't know what it means.
[09:31] <waecky> hello again
[09:31] <Qwerty> zek, go to System > Prefrences > Menu Layout > Sound and Video > XMMS > Rightclick it > Properties > and change icon :p
[09:31] <scheuri> timfrost: okay...thanks...:)
[09:31] <scheuri> anyone familiar with the HIGHMEM option?
[09:31] <zek> Qwerty: ok
[09:31] <AWOSLappy> Is there a program that can take a hexdump (as in the file says 00000000 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d 5d ........) and make it into computer readable format?
[09:32] <Qwerty> zek, something also tells me that /usr/share/xmms is also a spot for droppin icons but I dont know how to make the app chose one :P
[09:32] <dk0r> rickyfingers_: dk0r@ubuntu:~$ ftp localhost
[09:32] <dk0r> Connected to localhost.
[09:32] <dk0r> 220 (vsFTPd 2.0.4)
[09:32] <zek> Qwerty: i have to enable menu layout coz i don't have any menu layout
[09:32] <zek> Qwerty: i was trying that too
[09:32] <Qwerty> changing icons is easy on linux, on windows its terror :P
[09:32] <Qwerty> :o
[09:32] <rickyfingers_> dk0r then at least u know u can connect
[09:32] <Qwerty> i guess it should be enabled by default under edgy
[09:33] <Qwerty> on dapper it was accessories > alcarte
[09:33] <zek> Qwerty: yea, i am using dapper, i have to upgrade my version
[09:33] <AWOSLappy> So on Edgy I can't just right-click the menu and say "Menu Editor"?!
[09:33] <Qwerty> oh lol that too...
[09:33] <dk0r> rickyfingers_: Where do I access settings?
[09:33] <Qwerty> found that now, thanks :P
[09:33] <CarinArr> oo lookie.. fancy new nvidia splash
[09:34] <CarinArr> tho it looks like something from the early 90s
[09:34] <AWOSLappy> Qwerty, oh it was there?  I'm not on Edgy :P
[09:34] <Qwerty> lol the fedora splash looks much better
[09:34] <Qwerty> its 3D :P
[09:34] <Qwerty> lol yeah AWOSLappy
[09:34] <CarinArr> qwerty, than the nvidia one?
[09:34] <CarinArr> or than the ubuntu one
[09:34] <AWOSLappy> Wow.    I was even talking about KDE.
[09:35] <Qwerty> fedora's looked better :P
[09:35] <AWOSLappy> I never modified the GNOME menus.
[09:35] <Qwerty> lol
[09:35] <AWOSLappy> So I guess I helped in a roundabout way didn't I Qwerty?  :P
[09:35] <CarinArr> doesn't the nvidia splash come from nvidia?
[09:35] <Qwerty> I hate this creepy sounds in gaim
[09:35] <AWOSLappy> Creepy sound?
[09:35] <BeanBag> Is there an way that i can make my entire ubuntu instalation a live cd, so that i can re install it easier later on?
[09:36] <Qwerty> CarinArr, I mean, on fedora repo, the nvidia kernel wahtever, had a better logo
[09:36] <AWOSLappy> BeanBag, well you could copy everything from your hard drive to a CD
[09:36] <AWOSLappy> BeanBag, then you reinstall Linux and then copy everthing from the CD back to the disk.
[09:36] <CarinArr> qwerty, oh i see.. i don't use the packaged nvidia drivers in general
[09:36] <AWOSLappy> BeanBag, that would be A LOT easier though if you use DVD+RWs vs CDs.
[09:36] <BeanBag> Which is better for sound: OSS or ASLA?
[09:37] <Qwerty> ALSA is more popular I guesses
[09:37] <BeanBag> AWOSLappy: Thanks
[09:37] <AWOSLappy> BeanBag, np, and I've had better luck with ALSA.
[09:38] <BeanBag> Is there an easy way to mount any cd image file (iso, mds, nrg)
[09:38] <AWOSLappy> Plus JACK which is the new Linux sound system uses ALSA as its backend.
[09:38] <AWOSLappy> BeanBag, mount -t iso9660 -o loop <imagefile> <mountpoint>
[09:38] <zek> Qwerty: what's the command to upgrade to edgy ?
[09:38] <AWOSLappy> zek, apt-get dist-upgrade, but it's highly unstable.
[09:38] <Qwerty> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:38] <Qwerty> yeah hell unstable
[09:39] <Qwerty> better get a cd and clean install if possible
[09:39] <yomisssmo> hi again, my system is now so good, thx a lot to everyboby :)
[09:39] <zek> oh, well when will be stable i will write that command :)
[09:39] <AWOSLappy> zek, it will never be fully stable.  It is *much* better to back up and then do a clean install.
[09:40] <oht> does anyone have *any* idea why wmv files won't run in the ubuntu build of mplayer?
[09:40] <AWOSLappy> oht, Copyright.
[09:40] <zek> AWOSLappy: yes but i don't have cds with edgy
[09:40] <oht> -_-
[09:40] <AWOSLappy> zek, burn them!
[09:40] <oht> so how can i change that, i have the binary codek pack
[09:41] <BeanBag> AWOSLappy: Does that command work only for iso images, or for any image file, also, would it be possible to put that in a script (i have a lot of image files...)
[09:41] <AWOSLappy> oht, WMVs are really a whole other breed.
[09:41] <oht> when i compiled mplayer myself, WMVs worked fine
[09:41] <oht> but when i 'upgraded' to the ubuntu build, they stopped working
[09:42] <AWOSLappy> BeanBag, well substitute -t iso9660 for -t vfat.
[09:42] <tamacracker> Hey guys... how coMe i can't type the letter M in lower case?
[09:42] <tamacracker> i just installed Beryl
[09:42] <BeanBag>  AWOSLappy: What does that mean??
[09:43] <oht> tamacracker: lol, it probably messed up one of your keybindings with M
[09:43] <tamacracker> >.> what do I do?
[09:43] <Qwerty> BeanBag, he meant mount <options> <image> <location>
[09:43] <Qwerty> and he gave options
[09:43] <tamacracker> It also took off the top part of My windows... so i dont have the MIniMize, MaxiMize, and close buttons
[09:44] <AWOSLappy> BeanBag, -t iso9660 is for CDs.  -t vfat is for floppys.
[09:44] <oht> AWOSLappy: any advice on how to get wmv's working for the ubuntu build? or should i just forget about it?
[09:44] <AWOSLappy> oht, I have never been able to play a WMV on any Linux, WMAs can though.
[09:44] <AWOSLappy> Sorry.
[09:44] <link_36p> anyone know where i can find begginers monodevelop tuts?
[09:44] <oht> hehe, ok, whatever
[09:44] <AWOSLappy> oht, you could TRY vlc
[09:44] <rickyfingers_> anyone here know why these little dots appear all over an image when dragging a mouse over the image?
[09:45] <oht> well i mean, like i said, they worked fine when i compiled it myself
[09:45] <rickyfingers_> in GIMP
[09:45] <honk> does anyone have any packages of xmms-nsf?
[09:46] <AWOSLappy> oht -- you can try vlc, it's in the repos.
[09:46] <AWOSLappy> !info vlc
[09:46] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> Well I should be off to bed now, goodnight all.
[09:50] <tamacracker> oht how do i fix My "M"
[09:51] <Lam_> i know this isn't the best channel to ask this but does this work? (Java)   Integer intObj = 5; int intNum = intObj;
[09:52] <Lam_> does this work? (Java)   Integer intObj = 5; int intNum = intObj;
[09:52] <Lam_> err oops
[09:53] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:53] <boink> http://www.sun.com/opensource/java <= this will work
[09:53] <boink> heh
[09:53] <Flannel> Lam_: ##java is the place to ask that, and no, you need to use .intValue
[09:53] <Sp4rKy> please, i'm trying to use debmirror
[09:54] <Gogger> can someone help me with my network problem? I have it all configured right, i have used the wiki to guide me - but it isnt connecting to any network services?
[09:54] <Sp4rKy> http://paste.sos-sts.com/?28
[09:54] <Lam_> Flannel: are you sure? i just compiled it and it worked
[09:54] <Sp4rKy> this is the error message
[09:55] <Sp4rKy> does anyone can help me please ?
[09:55] <Flannel> Lam_: see the first part of my message
[09:55] <Lam_> Flannel: yeah. i can't go in unless my nick is registered apparently, but thanks anyways
[09:55] <tamacracker> Can anyone help Me repair My lower case M key please.... Beryl soMe how Messed it up.
[09:56] <nocturn> Morning guys
[09:56] <nocturn> Any of you using Nagios?
[09:56] <Gogger> Nagios?
[09:56] <berteh> hi everyone. I want to upgrade-dist from Warty to Edgy. do I need to go through Warty->Hoary->Breezy->Edgy or can I do Warty->Edgy at once?
[09:56] <nocturn> Gogger: A network monitoring system
[09:56] <nocturn> GPL'ed
[09:56] <berteh> @nocturn no, not using Nagios.
[09:57] <nocturn> I've had it running on my Ubuntu server for 18 months now
[09:57] <nocturn> survived my Hoary->Breezy->Dapper upgrade cycle
[09:57] <Flannel> berteh: yes, you need to do it one by one.  You're probably better off just backing up and installing edgy (and you forgot Dapper)
[09:57] <nocturn> But a recent outage highlighted a problem wiht my setup
[09:58] <nocturn> so I'm looking for some advice
[09:58] <berteh> @flannel ok, thanks.
[09:58] <aimaz> hi guys
[09:59] <aimaz> is there an easy way to change the keyboard layout?
[09:59] <roycebarbe1> wow im watching this room via GAIM..instead of konversation...this is a strange experience...
[09:59] <aimaz> or even a not-so-easy way?
[09:59] <Qwerty> o.O little dots?
[10:00] <Qwerty> um sorry my bad
[10:00] <rickyfingers_> Qwerty - what I mean is when I open a file in gimp
[10:00] <Sp4rKy> can you help me with debmirror
[10:00] <berteh> aimaz: if running gnome please try System-Preference-keyboard
[10:00] <aimaz> i'm using xfce
[10:00] <rickyfingers_> and drag the mouse over it, it puts these little black dots everywhere I drag the mouse
[10:00] <Sp4rKy> http://paste.sos-sts.com/?28 <[10:00] <rickyfingers_> when I change a tool, the dots all go away
[10:01] <rickyfingers_> they're just a minor annoyance
[10:01] <rickyfingers_> but I don't know if it's a bug or a feature in GIMP
[10:01] <Qwerty> oh ok... me donno
[10:01] <Spee_Der> Sp4rKy: I'm looking at it......
[10:01] <zumiez> Anyone have any GOOD or BAD experiences with the thing called "Cedega" that runs windows games.....?????
[10:02] <teclis> zumiez: yes I have ;)
[10:02] <aimaz> zumiez, i used it with the latest sim city and it worked fine
[10:03] <berteh> aimaz: keyboard layout in xfce: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66115
[10:03] <aimaz> berteh, thanks
[10:03] <berteh> np
[10:03] <teclis> zumiez: i used it with World of Warcraft. The sound was not like on a windows machine. Framerate was the same.
[10:03] <Spee_Der> Sp4rKy: Look at this file, /usr/bin/debmirror and in line 1300 see what file you need to have in order for that to work correctly.
[10:04] <Spee_Der> Sp4rKy: I went through this with the Dapper updater.....
[10:05] <Sp4rKy> Spee_Der: someone says me to use debpartial-mirror
[10:06] <reazn> !latest
[10:06] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:06] <Spee_Der> Sp4rKy: Are you using Synaptic for updating ?
[10:06] <Wodger> a phaze i like is bleeding edge
[10:07] <nothlit> Can someone tell me where the xcursor settings are kept? If I use the gnome wizards, the cursor settings only seem to affect gtk applications, will update-alternatives --config x-cursor-themes update the cursors universally?
[10:08] <Explosif>  !register
[10:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:13] <sandy16> how to install aiglx on ubuntu dapper
[10:14] <tamacracker> Does anyone use Beryl on Edgy Ubuntu?
[10:14] <fnf> Hi, when I installed samba package for Windows sharing, I got a password dialog box when I tried to access the server under the path "\\<my-local-ip>\", what username and password am I supposed to put there ?
[10:14] <sandy16> tamacracker, yah i sue beryl
[10:14] <Qwerty> :o
[10:14] <alc> tamacracker, me, now =)
[10:15] <tamacracker> I'm having a small problem.
[10:15] <Mongo2> fun
[10:15] <Qwerty> sandy16, why sue beryl? :p
[10:15] <alc> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[10:15] <sandy16> Qwerty, i use beryl :))
[10:15] <alc> thats quite easy on edgy
[10:15] <tamacracker> I dont know if its supposed to be like this but, my minimize, maximize, and close buttons and the whole top part of my windows are missing... lol
[10:16] <IOWAHC> Hy there. I compiled glib 2.12 .... but 2.10 is still there becauses ubuntu-desktop needs it.... how can I tell it to use 2.12
[10:16] <IOWAHC> ?
[10:16] <Qwerty> ah... run beryl-manager again?
[10:16] <tamacracker> run it again?
[10:16] <tamacracker> should I log out or restart?
[10:16] <Qwerty> that happened a lot on compiz for me, on beryl it happened once, then I typed beryl-manager in terminal and it appeared :S
[10:17] <tamacracker> lol let me try that.
[10:17] <Qwerty> tried restarting before?
[10:18] <tamacracker> i haven't restarded
[10:18] <fnf> IOWAHC: You need to compile and install ubuntu-desktop yourself, otherwise some serious hacks would be needed, but that eventually will confuse dpkg
[10:18] <tamacracker> restarted*
[10:18] <xiownthisplacex> Hi everyone.. I have a problem with the wireless.. At school(in windows) we need to download a file called SecureW2 in order to access the essid=e-U
[10:18] <xiownthisplacex> Now, ive just installed Ubuntu 6.1 and i needed to do this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 in order to get my wireless working in ubuntu..
[10:18] <xiownthisplacex> But i could only get the guest-e-U(thats for us to connect in order to download the SecureW2) and i cant even see the e-U on network-manager.
[10:18] <IOWAHC> ok
[10:18] <IOWAHC> thx
[10:18] <xiownthisplacex> can anyone help me?
[10:18] <tamacracker> in fact, when i did log off... the xorg.conf was incorrect and i had to load up the back up
[10:20] <tamacracker> it's basically taking the windows of any application, and shiftin it up, so that the part where the buttons are, look like they're "behind" the panel.
[10:20] <tamacracker> then when i move it down, they're missing/
[10:20] <tamacracker> gonna restart
[10:21] <Acke_ubu> hey I am to encrypt the wirless network on my workplace. Which is the best encryption method for some of my more inexperienced linux users (ie not giving my to much support work)?
[10:21] <Acke_ubu> wep vpn?
[10:21] <Acke_ubu> !tell Acke_ubu wep
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell Acke_ubu wep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Acke_ubu> !wep
[10:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:21] <braddockbr> hey there.. ive downloaded an app.. there is only a Makefile there.... dont work... how to install it in ubuntu?
[10:22] <IOWAHC> does dpkg realise that there is a newer version of glib installed?
[10:23] <xiownthisplacex> ok thanx
[10:24] <max_> what format does a file need to be to make an audio cd in k3b?
[10:24] <tamacracker> Nah restarting didn't do it for me
[10:25] <tamacracker> is this the correct installation for edgy: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[10:25] <stephan21_> can i upgrade 6.0.6 to 6.0.10 or do i gotta lose all must stuff
[10:25] <max_> what format does a file need to be to make an audio cd in k3b?
[10:27] <Qwerty> tamacracker, I follwed this...
[10:27] <Qwerty> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy
[10:29] <tamacracker> that's the one that I just used
[10:30] <tamacracker> brb
[10:30] <xiownthisplacex> !wep
[10:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:33] <braddockbr> !Makefile
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Makefile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <ekimus> is it by intention that the alternate install cd for edgy doesn't have a server image?
[10:33] <Acke_ubu> !vpn
[10:33] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[10:35] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:?
[10:36] <cntb> hi . in kubuntu machine shared w. windows sound is very low almost whispering when kmix is all up. windows is OK shouting
[10:37] <braddockbr> I've downloaded an app and when I run the Makefile all commands arent found... what else I need to do to install in ubuntu?
[10:37] <MattJ> braddockbr: What app?
[10:38] <braddockbr> MattJ , wicrawl
[10:38] <Qwerty> damn
[10:39] <Qwerty> how do I close bind?
[10:39] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:?
[10:39] <MattJ> braddockbr: May be related: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278095
[10:39] <xiownthisplacex> !ttls
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <stephan21_> can i upgrade 6.0.6 to 6.0.10 or do i gotta lose all must stuff
[10:41] <xiownthisplacex> !wpasupplicant
[10:41] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.5.4-5 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 588 kB
[10:41] <xiownthisplacex> !secured network
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secured network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <xiownthisplacex> !secureW2
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secureW2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <xiownthisplacex> !secure W2
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secure W2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <ekimus> Qwerty:  bind the nameserver?
[10:42] <TimothyP> Hi, is there something different in ubuntu 6.10 as to how routing works ? I have 2 network cards in the mashine, with networks <IP_ADDRESS>/16 and <IP_ADDRESS>/24 on them. normally I add 1 to /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and routing between the two networks always works, but not on 6.10 , can't get it to work (masquerading from one to another does work but that's not what I need)
[10:42] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format>
[10:43] <ekimus> xiownthisplacex:  http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <braddockbr> MattJ: make: command not found...     ???
[10:43] <Qwerty> ekimus, yeah that one
[10:43] <TimothyP> apt-get install make ?
[10:43] <Qwerty> I ran it like 'binds binds' and terminal's not allowin me to type b again :s
[10:44] <ekimus> Qwerty:  if you installed the package from ubuntu /etc/init.d/bind stop as root on the command line
[10:44] <xiownthisplacex> ok i dont get that web page and factoids, wut am i supposed to do there?
[10:44] <MattJ> braddockbr: Yes, install make :)
[10:44] <ekimus> xiownthisplacex:  you can search ubotu without flooding the channel :)
[10:44] <Qwerty> ok stopped :D
[10:46] <xiownthisplacex> this channel was very helpful thanx
[10:48] <xiownthisplacex> !ttls
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Qwerty> ttls ?
[10:48] <Chetic> What lib is "libIL.so.1" part of?
[10:51] <elmargol> Chetic: search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:52] <elmargol> libs/libdevil1c2
[10:52] <Chetic> aha.. thanks
[10:52] <Ron> hi
[10:53] <Ron> i want to install apache2
[10:53] <Ron> but it tells me: packages cannot be authenticated
[10:54] <arnducky> I'm drawing a blank searching official Cannonical  and community support pages on ubuntu.com.  Any suggestions as to where to look for help in getting an original Radeon All-In-Wonder card's TV capture freatures working without having to nuke the.x.org X-server and switch back to XFFree86?
[10:54] <Ron> should i install it anyway?
[10:54] <cntb> !ff2
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <cntb> upgrade to firefox2 in dapper
[10:55] <Ron> i did update, now it authenticates
[10:55] <daxxar> Anyone know if Firefox has a hotkey for refreshing and 'clearing cache' for the current page? I'm having some issues with a host that doesn't send proper caching information.
[10:55] <Ron> thanks anyway, bye
[10:57] <arnducky> Also, NO-freezing, NON-crashing,  3D support would be nice (the oldest chip the new FireGL 'restricted' ATI drivers seem to support is Radeon 8500  (R100 = 7000 series after the renumbering)
[10:57] <arnducky> !v4L
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v4L - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <Flannel> daxxar: hold shift while reloading
[10:58] <crimsun> hmm, where's the Device Manager in Dapper?
[10:58] <braddockbr> ok hehe.. ive got gcc-4.0 ... how to rename it to only "gcc" ? isnt on /bin/
[10:58] <stephan21_> can i upgrade 6.0.6 to 6.0.10 or do i gotta lose all must stuff
[10:58] <daxxar> Flannel, I tried that, hm.
[10:59] <daxxar> Shift F5, then?
[10:59] <MattJ> braddockbr: Did you get it from the repositories?
[10:59] <braddockbr> MattJ: yup!
[10:59] <MattJ> and it's not gcc? o_O
[10:59] <daxxar> Hm. *kicks his schools webauthentication for WLAN*
[11:00] <Flannel> daxxar: no, in FF reload is ctrl-R, and ctrl-shift-R is refresh (which is what youre looking for)
[11:00] <braddockbr> MattJ: nope...gcc-4.0
[11:00] <Werdnum> what's the diff?
[11:00] <MattJ> braddockbr: Install the build-essential package, if you haven't alreadu
[11:00] <MattJ> *already
[11:01] <daxxar> Flannel, thanks. Doesn't seem to work, but I'm not sure why.
[11:02] <Chetic> What lib is "libCg.so" part of? And don't think I haven't searched...
[11:03] <MattJ> braddockbr: If that package doesn't give you a /bin/gcc, type: sudo ln -s /bin/gcc-4.0 /bin/gcc
[11:03] <Flannel> MattJ, braddockbr, no.
[11:03] <MattJ> Flannel: ?
[11:03] <Flannel> braddockbr: the package "gcc" installs gcc.
[11:04] <MattJ> build-essential depends on it, does it not?
[11:04] <sobersabre> hi
[11:04] <Flannel> MattJ: it does, he must not have build-essential installed
[11:04] <braddockbr> Flannel: hm I see .. but dont want to download 12mb again.... isn the gcc gcc4.0?
[11:04] <MattJ> Flannel: erm... why?
[11:04] <braddockbr> can I temporary link it ?
[11:04] <Flannel> braddockbr: no.  gcc depends on gcc4.0
[11:04] <MattJ> Flannel: I have it...
[11:05] <Flannel> braddockbr: no, gcc4.0 doesn't necessarily contain all of gcc, infact, I know it doesnt
[11:05] <Flannel> MattJ: right, he doesn't have b-e installed
[11:05] <braddockbr> Flannel: hmm .. so i need an apt-get install gcc ?
[11:05] <Flannel> braddockbr: apt-get install build-essential
[11:05] <boink> you need apt-get install build-essential
[11:06] <arnducky> What Xserver version does Edgey presently use?
[11:06] <braddockbr> doing.. xD ty
[11:06] <Flannel> need is a bit strong.  But that'll be sure to have anything you need
[11:06] <boink> it installs enuf
[11:06] <MattJ> Flannel: I thought you just said...??!?!
[11:06] <Flannel> MattJ: What?
[11:06] <MattJ> nm ^^
[11:07] <MattJ> Flannel: I thought you were saying he shouldn't have build-essential
[11:07] <MattJ> Flannel: I told him to install it
[11:08] <Flannel> MattJ: I said nothing of the sort.  Just that he doesn't necessarily need it.  He should have it.  He shouldn't symlink to get around him not having gcc
[11:08] <MattJ> Flannel: Yeah well, I said do that if build-essential didn't :) I'm surprised the gcc package doesn't
[11:09] <Flannel> MattJ: gcc package does, gcc4.1 package doesnt
[11:09] <MattJ> Flannel: Ah, I see
[11:10] <sandy16> when i start beryl-manager all the window borders disappear.there is no beryl effect can anyone pls help ?
[11:10] <nysosym> hi there
[11:11] <nysosym> anyone here with the new gaim 2.0beta5?
[11:11] <daxxar> Any way to tell Firefox to only open one window, and after that open tabs?
[11:11] <khaije1> hi, i was having a problem with sudo, it says 'timestamp is too far in the future'
[11:11] <khaije1> why is this?
[11:12] <Flannel> khaije1: sudo -K will fix it
[11:12] <khaije1> (i know it has something to do with broken time clock, but don't fully understand the mechanism)
[11:12] <charles> surabaya
[11:13] <charles> surabaya
[11:13] <rickyfingers__> khai http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[11:14] <Flannel> khaije1: sudo keeps track of when you last used sudo, to keep your password (which is why it keeps it for five minutes, etc), it also checks to make sure that the last time you used sudo was actually before you just used it (so someone couldnt just set the time back a day to get access), there is a small window (for time correction) that it's allowed to be in the future, sometimes it's too far ;)
[11:16] <khaije1> Flannel: i wish i had known it was so simple, i had to sign out of my root shell to hurry and get to work... :-/
[11:16] <bun-bun> daxxar# set it in preferences
[11:16] <khaije1> Flannel: holy crap you fixed it!!!!!
[11:17] <Flannel> sandy16: ask in #beryl
[11:17] <khaije1> Flannel: i thought i was screwed and would need to power cycle the machine
[11:17] <bun-bun> daxxar# if you're using ff2 you might also want to set browser.link.open_newwindow to 3 in about:config
[11:17] <Flannel> khaije1: nah, even in the worst case, you'd just wait until the time catches up with the timestamp, which usually isn't too far ahead
[11:18] <Sby_sepi_stress>  #surabaya
[11:19] <phpnuborn> wow.. 800+ people
[11:19] <khaije1> Flannel: there is something wrong with my bios so when the prior date was off by over thirty years... also i am only able to access it via ssh currently and i wanted to get some work done
[11:20] <empty_mind> where can i find upgrade instructions for upgrade from drapper to edgy (i need to upgrade from command line)
[11:20] <Flannel> !upgrade | empty_mind
[11:20] <ubotu> empty_mind: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic") - See also !downgrade
[11:21] <khaije1> Flannel: i think i'm in even more shock that the fix was so simple
[11:21] <adrigen> bloodbare: if a css style in portlets.css has !imporant on it... whats the best way to override it?
[11:21] <Steven_M> are there any Synchronet packages for ubuntu?
[11:21] <Flannel> khaije1: well, it's a pretty common occurance, people don't like dealing with complicated stuff often ;)
[11:22] <Flannel> adrigen: ask in #css or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:22] <hi2u> hi
[11:22] <hi2u> can someone help me?
[11:22] <Steven_M> hi2u: with what?
[11:22] <hi2u> im trying to run ubuntu off a cd i start my computer and it the first option, it says loading linux kernel and just stops there, do i have to do something then?
[11:23] <hi2u> i pick the frist option*
[11:23] <eilker> what is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu server ? is it only gui and lamp server ? if i install lamp server on ubuntu, does it become ubuntu server ?
[11:23] <MattJ> hi2u: How much RAM do you have?
[11:23] <bimberi> eilker: yes
[11:24] <bimberi> eilker: they share the same repositories
[11:24] <hi2u> 448 mb
[11:24] <MattJ> hi2u: Plenty
[11:24] <hi2u> yea so whys it just stop
[11:24] <hi2u> am i supposed to type something in
[11:24] <khaije1> Flannel: the thing is, i had to ask... even reading the man page i didn't understand enough of what was said to figure it out on my own, so i really appreciate yr help :-)
[11:24] <Steven_M> hi2u: you shouldn't need to do anything
[11:24] <Flannel> eilker: depending on how you install your GUI-less ubuntu installation (server CD vs alternate CD), you get  different kernel (yes for server CD, no for alternate)
[11:25] <hi2u> i waited like 45 minutes nothing happened at all
[11:25] <MattJ> hi2u: Try hitting enter, just in case :)
[11:25] <hi2u> ok
[11:25] <hi2u> ill be back either way
[11:25] <MattJ> Did you get the boot menu?
[11:25] <hi2u> yea
[11:25] <eilker> flannel: i installed kubuntu 6.06 /not server cd/  than installed lamp server, now is mine kubuntu server ?
[11:26] <hi2u> im supposed to pick the first option to boot from the cd correct
[11:26] <MattJ> hi2u: Could be a hardware problem
[11:26] <eilker> bimberi: do u use ubuntu server ?
[11:26] <MattJ> hi2u: Yeah
[11:26] <Flannel> eilker: sure.  There's no difference between a 'desktop' and a 'server' in linux, theyre both perfectly suited for either
[11:26] <MattJ> eilker: I have a LAMP server, on my GUI installation
[11:27] <MattJ> eilker: I just installed the packages myself, instead of the installer doing it
[11:27] <Flannel> eilker: the 'server' CD isn't anything special, just a GUI-less prefab configuration.  It's exactly the same as if you installed a desktop, then removed all the GUI stuff
[11:27] <bimberi> eilker: yes, mine started from an alternate CD install
[11:28] <chenwgm>
[11:28] <eilker> flannel: as i read, you can disable gui in kubuntu server, now do i have chance to disable gui in my system? remember pls kubuntu desktop + lamp server
[11:29] <chenwgm>
[11:29] <eilker> mattj: what kind of servers do u have ? web server ?
[11:29] <bun-bun> !cn
[11:29] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:29] <khaije1> is there a simple way to manage ssh sessions (kill, mostly) preferable ncurses?
[11:29] <chenwgm> who can help ma
[11:29] <MattJ> eilker: Apache, MySQL, PHP
[11:29] <Flannel> eilker: sure, you can disable your GUI
[11:30] <eilker> bimberi: do u have ftp server or e-mail server ?
[11:30] <MattJ> eilker: I have email, not FTP
[11:30] <macsim> hi, adesklet doesn't work properly over nautilus, anybody know how to fix it ?
[11:30] <eilker> flannel: do u know the way ?
[11:30] <Flannel> khaije1: screen + ps aux + bash? ;)
[11:30] <bimberi> eilker: no and yes
[11:30] <MattJ> eilker: But I could install FTP with 2 clicks
[11:30] <MattJ> !ask | chen
[11:30] <ubotu> chen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:30] <bimberi> eilker: likewise to MattJ :)
[11:31] <pip> hello
[11:31] <pip> anyone use kget ?
[11:31] <itclanster> can anyone help me with editing ubuntu start up
[11:31] <pip> I need help with how to use kget to download a file I really want
[11:31] <khaije1> Flannel: i'm afraid i don't fully understand
[11:31] <eilker> mattj: could u give me link for those ? i have only lamp server, i just serve my web site from my  pc...being a free host:)
[11:31] <itclanster> i want it to show transition from real  mode to protected mode
[11:32] <MattJ> eilker: Install a normal setup, and you can get them from the repositories
[11:32] <pip> and all the time I just downloaded a html file other than the real file I want
[11:32] <pip> why ?
[11:32] <itclanster> its my task in a project at the institute
[11:32] <MattJ> !repository | eilker
[11:32] <ubotu> eilker: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:32] <Flannel> khaije1: ps aux | grep ssh and then another terminal to kill them.  These both open at the same time via screen (and split windowed if you want to get fancy)
[11:32] <bimberi> eilker: The Ubuntu Server Guide at http://help.ubuntu.com is excellent
[11:32] <pip> and I used wget and type like this : wget -c <linksite_of_the_file> ,but still got a html file ,
[11:33] <itclanster> its somewat related to kernel programming
[11:33] <Oni-Dracula> question:  If f-spot is supposed to be a replacement for gthumb, then why exactly does f-spot have to maintain a database of pictures whilst gthumb simply reads directories just like nautilus
[11:33] <boink> pip: yes, that's who wget works
[11:33] <boink> s/who/how/
[11:33] <eilker> mattj: thank you
[11:33] <khaije1> Flannel: thats what i've been doing, but sometimes it's not clear which process to kill
[11:33] <eilker> flannel: thank you
[11:34] <eilker> bimberi: tahnk you:)
[11:34] <pip> boink, But you know the file is very huge ,so I am going to download it in few days and I must use a tool which support continue download skill
[11:34] <bimberi> eilker: you're welcome :)
[11:34] <Genrl_Zod> any1 know of a good linux Cdec package?
[11:34] <MattJ> pip: You could still use wget? :D
[11:34] <Genrl_Zod> codec*
[11:34] <pip>  boink But if I click on the button ,I will get to download it in firefox default download window
[11:34] <Flannel> khaije1: why are you killing them?
[11:35] <pip> Matt, Did you read what I expressed ?
[11:35] <MattJ> pip: What's the HTML file you get? I guess it redirects somewhere...
[11:35] <pip> Matt, I just got nothing except s fucking html file
[11:35] <MattJ> !language | pip
[11:35] <ubotu> pip: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:35] <MattJ> ^^
[11:36] <pip> ubotu, Oh,sorry
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Oh,sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <MattJ> pip: Look for a  redirect in the HTML file
[11:36] <MattJ> pip: Somewhere near the top
[11:36] <pip> Matt,I just copied the link of the file and pasted for wget but got a html file
[11:37] <khaije1> Flannel: my objective is to keep a close watch on my system in order to learn about unix and security, the 'last' command shows a remote shell still logged in and it seems untidy, but also very usefull to know how to do this effeciently
[11:37] <boink> pip: so, you need to figoure how to download what you want
[11:37] <pip> boink, I use wget well but just could not sovle today's job
[11:38] <pip> *solve
[11:38] <Chetic> How do you install a .cpkg file?
[11:38] <pip> boink, and kget ,neither
[11:38] <pip> Matt, near the top ? what do you mean ?
[11:38] <itclanster> my desktop screen in ubuntu flickers a lot and it work ok with windowsxp  how should i rectify it
[11:38] <boink> what's the url?
[11:39] <Genrl_Zod> opps
[11:39] <khaije1> Flannel: so much of the problem is knowing what/how to ask, and figuring out if the idea you have in yr head is possible or exists. I've been spoiled by linux over the years, by now i expect to be able to do anything i want :-)
[11:39] <Genrl_Zod> did sum1 post a link?
[11:39] <boink> and what are you trying to download?
[11:39] <Genrl_Zod> i think i missed it
[11:39] <MattJ> pip: Give us the URL, or paste the contents to pastebin
[11:39] <eilker> in consol which command shows my wan ip  ?
[11:39] <hi2u> when i try to run ubuntu from a cd it says loading all this stuff.... ok, then it says "uncompressing linux, ok... loading kernel" at that point it just stops, what do i do?
[11:39] <Genrl_Zod> I just nbeed an audio/video codec pack to use with ubuntu, any good ones out there?
[11:39] <MattJ> eilker: Try ifconfig
[11:39] <eilker> mattj: it gives lan ip
[11:39] <Genrl_Zod> well if ur on a router it wont gfive u wan
[11:40] <pip> Matt, the file will get downloaded after you registered your own account
[11:40] <Flannel> khaije1: well, I imagine there is a way.  you can use 'who' to keep track of current log ins, and Im sure theres a way to terminate those, Im just not sure what that is
[11:40] <Genrl_Zod> so u have to go on google and go to whatsmyip.org
[11:40] <Genrl_Zod> the borweser will tell u ur WAN ip.
[11:40] <MattJ> eilker: It gives all IP addresses for me, I'm not sure then
[11:40] <itclanster> ya it works
[11:40] <eilker> genri_zod: yes i have router
[11:40] <Genrl_Zod> maybe ifconfig /all?
[11:40] <MattJ> eilker: You want http://whatismyip.org/ ?
[11:40] <pip> Matt, so I can not give you the URL but I can give you the file link I copied
[11:40] <pip> Matt, http://www.qnx.com/download/download/14619/6.3.0SP3-qnx6-200610121339.iso
[11:40] <itclanster> it will show ur public ip if u r behind nat
[11:41] <eilker> mattj: there was a command to see it, i forgot, and i cant remember...
[11:41] <pip> Matt, can you download it normally ?
[11:42] <MattJ> pip: No, it asks for login
[11:42] <hi2u> when i try to run ubuntu from a cd it says loading all this stuff.... ok, then it says "uncompressing linux, ok... loading kernel" at that point it just stops, what do i do?
[11:42] <pip> MattJ, right !
[11:42] <pip> MattJ, so it is classified
[11:43] <itclanster> my desktop screen in ubuntu flickers a lot and it work ok with windowsxp  how should i rectify it
[11:43] <khaije1> Flannel: the only way i know is the `ps aux | grep ssh | grep [pts from last command] ` then kill the shell, is that kinda what you were saying?
[11:43] <itclanster> plz tell me if thr r some settings
[11:43] <harm_> Does anyone know where i can check the status of my server? Logs which deamons are runninge etc?
[11:43] <MattJ> pip: lynx could probably get that, of you supply the login
[11:43] <MattJ> pip: If you want it without logging in, I doubt that can be done
[11:43] <daxxar> tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 1
[11:44] <daxxar> ^-- Any suggestions as to what device-name that sd card will be accessible under?
[11:44] <pip> MattJ, NO,I have an account
[11:44] <pip> MattJ, does elink support continute download skill ?
[11:45] <Khamael> is there a way to change the boot theme?
[11:45] <Flannel> harm_: /var/log will have logs, some stuff keeps logs of when it starts, stops, etc.  ps will give you stuff currently running
[11:46] <harm_> Flannel u use Msn or something so i can ask some questions iam fairly new to having a server and ive had 2 hack attempts
[11:47] <Flannel> harm_: you can ask here, hack attempts from where? ssh?
[11:48] <harm_> Flannel FTP attacks
[11:48] <Genrl_Zod> so any1 direct me to a good codec pack for ubuntu?
[11:48] <harm_> Flannel i only have FTP forwarded to outside the network
[11:49] <harm_> Genrl_Zod easyubuntu or automatix2
[11:49] <itclanster> how to download ubuntu source code
[11:49] <itclanster> or to get it online
[11:49] <Genrl_Zod> which is best one harm ? which flava do u use?
[11:50] <Flannel> Genrl_Zod: don't use either.
[11:50] <harm_> Gentl_Zod i used automatix2 u just click which things u want and it install them for you such as: Codecs/Skype/InternetVideoplayingstuff etc etc :)
[11:50] <Flannel> !codecs | Genrl_Zod
[11:50] <ubotu> Genrl_Zod: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:50] <Flannel> harm_: please don't recommend automatix here.
[11:51] <harm_> Flannel ok :) works like a charm but i see ur point
[11:51] <Delkster> itclanster, which part? I'm not sure if you can get the source code to the entire system in one piece but for any particular package you can get the source by enabling the source repositories and using the "apt-get source" command.
[11:51] <harm_> Flannel i had some polish and Malaysian kid beat the hell out of my server for 3 hours
[11:51] <Flannel> harm_: your ftp server mightve kept logs in /var/log, you might try checking there.
[11:51] <harm_> Flannel they just dictonary or bruteforce
[11:51] <LaCReMeL> yok
[11:51] <harm_> Flannel i have the logs..
[11:52] <LaCReMeL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwvMRLAzMBw
[11:52] <LaCReMeL> zuhahahahahah
[11:52] <LaCReMeL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwvMRLAzMBw
[11:52] <harm_> Flannel but how do i improve my secruty and which daemons can i shut down, because more deamons - more vulnerabilities right?
[11:52] <LaCReMeL> watch it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwvMRLAzMBw
[11:52] <LaCReMeL> :D
[11:52] <LaCReMeL> wonderfuuuull
[11:52] <LaCReMeL> :D
[11:52] <Delkster> harm_, I keep getting dictionary attacks against the ftp server, too, but they have a strong tendency of not getting in. ;-)
[11:53] <Flannel> harm_: ubuntu has nothing listening by default, so only things you've added are listening
[11:54] <harm_> Delkster is tehre some autoban system i can set up?
[11:54] <LaCReMeL> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwvMRLAzMBw
[11:54] <harm_> Flannel ok thats a relief to hear.. and that video IS NOT funny
[11:54] <Delkster> harm_, I've thought about that, too, but haven't really searched
[11:55] <harm_> Delkster cuz atm iam banning people in some weird IPtable command line way :)
[11:55] <khaije1> harm_: Delkster: i was interested in this too, does sshd autoblock after multiple successive failed auth attemps
[11:55] <harm_> khaije1 as i stated i only fogured out  how to ban some one from your system manually
[11:55] <neildarlow> khaije1: not sshd itself but pam policy, i believe
[11:55] <Delkster> harm_, maybe some interesting combination of just plain firewalling rules with iptables would allow you to automagically stop responding to someone when they've tried connecting the the given port a certain number of times within a certain period
[11:56] <harm_> like like 10tries < 15minutes = ban
[11:56] <Delkster> My iptables-fu isn't very strong, though, and I don't know how you'd actually do that.
[11:56] <harm_> i shall google
[11:56] <Delkster> Yeah, or usually the brute forcers and dictionary attackers try even more often
[11:57] <harm_> Delkster i normally get 2 tries every 3 seconds
[11:57] <Flannel> harm_: you should try something like denyhosts: http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ although I think that particular one is ssh centric
[11:57] <khaije1> neildarlow: i've readabout pam_abl or something like that but i don't see it in the repositories, just wondering if if anyone had any luck/experience with this
[11:57] <khaije1> Flannel: oh! interesting...
[11:58] <Delkster> harm_, exactly... so maybe you could make the rule something like >20 attempts in <45 seconds or something