[15:45] <charlie-tca> anyone tried installing with the alternate images ?
[15:45] <charlie-tca> I keep getting looped back to the start, specifically, the cd reboots during partitioning
[16:24] <wolfrage_> So I figured i would let you guys know that Ubuntu 10.10, does not work on a Sony Vaio VPCE B32 FM. The mouse does not work at all. The system also fails to boot normally, you have to enter failsafe X. I suppose it may work after updates, but we only have Wi-Fi. Will continue to work at it; trying to get an update, once I can get it connected to the internet.
[16:25] <wolfrage_> Pisses me off that hardware manufactures keep breaking compatibility.


[00:50] <bdmurray> cyphermox: I updated my network-manager bug from months ago
[02:10] <cyphermox> bdmurray: yup, saw it, thanks!
[11:23] <gema> Hi, who do I need to speak to, to get a wpa_supplicant fix into Oneiric?
[11:29] <gema> it is bug 638303, just for the record. Thanks!
[11:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 638303 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Don't give up scanning so easily (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 9)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638303
[11:33] <penguin42> gema: You could try the person who contributed the patch that's on that bug
[11:37] <gema> that person is no in canonical
[11:37] <gema> I thought that if they could, the patch would be included already
[11:37] <penguin42>  'no in' ?
[11:37] <gema> not in
[11:38] <gema> well, I am not sure how packages ownership and bug fixes get decided, so I am trying to figure things out :)
[11:39] <penguin42> hmm it looks like he was when he sent that last patch in March
[11:39] <gema> then the patch should be included by now, right? I will try to check
[11:40] <gema> thanks :)
[11:40] <gema> I may send him an email, actually
[11:40] <penguin42> gema: I'd email them and ask if he knows the current status
[11:40] <gema> ok, will do, thanks penguin42  :)
[11:42] <jtaylor> general question, I never used apport-collect will it help for bug 834263?
[11:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 834263 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Im a newbie, installing Ubuntu. I keeps stopping and saying E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). When I try to continue, it stops again, says I should post to this site and attach the files var/log/syslog and/ var/log/partman: (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834263
[11:43] <jtaylor> hm its during install, probably a bit more complicated there
[11:47] <penguin42> jtaylor: Is that your bug ?
[11:47] <jtaylor> no
[11:47] <penguin42> jtaylor: I'd report it separately
[11:47] <penguin42> jtaylor: Lots of stuff can cause that type of problem during install so it's best to get it reported and then someone can merge ones that are actually the same
[11:48] <jtaylor> I don't have any issues I'm just wondering about how apport-collect works
[11:48] <jtaylor> if telling the reporter to do that will add useful information
[11:50] <penguin42> oh I see
[11:50] <penguin42> hmm not sure for installation stuff


[01:06] <drc> OK...just rebooted.  The is only one line in Software & Updates>Other software and it shows:
[01:06] <Unit193> Can you  cat /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[01:07] <drc> CHECKBOX "cdrom:[xubuntu.core.iso-mad64  20140425] / vivid main multiverse restricted universe"    All one one line
[01:09] <drc> DId I cry wolf?  Not really knowledgeable on these things, but it was definately not what I expected to see.
[01:10] <drc> ok, will reboot (again :) and check
[01:10] <Unit193> I'd think software-properties would list them all as well, but in theory it may not in order for you to not be able to deselect them.  I'd check the sources.list file to be sure, but I'll also check to see if I see it here.
[01:11] <Unit193> Ah, first tab.
[01:14] <drc> cating sources.list gives what <krytarik> showed (in OT)...but definately only one line in S&U>Other software.
[01:16] <Unit193> I looked at that application, and looks like it's listed on the first pane there, with CD only being in "Other"
[01:17] <drc> I would be more than happy to say "mea culpa" and put it down to my ignorance if everything looks fine on your end/
[01:18] <Unit193> Well as long as the file looks good, I'm glad to ignore software-properties as well.
[01:20] <drc> I actually took a look at 15.05 -release and the S&U>Other software looks different also...everything is on one line also.
[01:20] <drc> mea culpa, me culpa, mea maxima culpa.
[01:21] <Unit193> Hah, it's fine.  Thanks for taking a good look around!
[01:23] <drc> But I still think a small note in the blurbs noting apt-get would be a good idea.
[01:23] <Unit193> Err, yeah.  I never use anything but that to install, so it never occured to me. :3
[01:23] <Unit193> My bad on that one.
[01:24] <drc> Weel, with the target audiance, it should be fine, but at least this way you can say "hey <you> missed it' when some one complains
[01:25] <Unit193> Hah, indeed! :D
[01:26] <Unit193> The "What's different" question could be either answered by diff'ing the seeds for a more basic answer, or to be more technical diff the manifests.
[06:28] <elfy> pleia2: 1800 UTC works any day
[06:29] <elfy> ochosi: crashes out - panel wrapper error
[06:29] <ochosi> ok, at least that is consistent with what i have seen in a vm
[06:30] <ochosi> not that it's particularly good
[06:30] <elfy> not sure why it worked in the other install
[06:30] <ochosi> i guess i should re-test on a laptop with a clean env
[06:30] <ochosi> so far only desktops seemed to be affected, but that could also just be a coincidence
[06:31] <elfy> right
[06:31] <elfy> well I can pull it to the laptop too - that just gets used for testing stuff anyway currently
[06:37] <ochosi> ok, that'd be cool actually
[06:39] <elfy> as soon as I've got that set up I'll ping you
[06:40] <ochosi> perfect, thanks
[06:40] <ochosi> i'm actually not sure what to hope for, a consistent crash/bug or something desktop-specific...
[06:41] <elfy> yea, you only have laptop?
[06:51] <ochosi> exactly
[06:51] <ochosi> well i do have a desktop @office, but i can not really use that for testing/development
[06:55] <elfy> right - so the best scenario is simple enough - fails on laptops and desktops - fix works on both :D
[06:55] <elfy> couldn't help myself ...
[06:56] <ochosi> hehe
[06:57] <ochosi> yeah, hopefully
[07:01] <elfy> ochosi: question - will this only work with vivid - or can I wily this install?
[07:01] <ochosi> should work with >= vivid
[07:01] <ochosi> and that's mostly because of the depends, which weren't there earlier
[07:01] <ochosi> (new upower, new gtk3)
[07:02] <elfy> ok - I'll wily it later then :)
[07:03] <elfy> so I will have laptop on vivid, desktop on wily
[07:10] <ochosi> sounds good, i guess i'll try to switch over to wily myself soon
[07:10] <elfy> easy at the beginning - not much to dist-upgrade ;)
[07:10] <elfy> took 30 seconds lol
[07:19] <elfy> it also reboots - so that's a bonus
[07:23] <Unit193> Got isos yet?
[07:24] <elfy> nope
[07:29] <elfy> be a while yet for them to turn up
[07:29] <elfy> morning brainwash
[07:30] <brainwash> morning elfy
[08:19] <Unit193> bluesabre: oooh, shiny!  Check xfce412.html now?
[09:27] <brainwash> ochosi: maybe you understand what the bug reporter is trying to report bug 1450148
[10:45] <bluesabre> brainwash: that bug report just looks like noise
[10:45] <bluesabre> "It's a meta-package so I removed it"
[10:46] <bluesabre> ok... trying to save a few bytes there or something?
[10:46] <bluesabre> Unit193: let the syncs begin.... tonight :D
[10:47] <Unit193> bluesabre: Autosyncs, mate.  Nice they are.
[10:47] <brainwash> bluesabre: I don't know what to answer other than "no, you are doing it wrong. there is no bug."
[10:47] <bluesabre> Unit193: can you discern some other reason why that bug report exists?
[10:47] <bluesabre> Unit193: indeed
[10:47] <bluesabre> time to drop some deltas
[10:50] <Unit193> Yeah, that'll be nice for sure.  Trello still lists the two not in Debian.  And no, but ask how the person is installing.
[10:51] <Unit193> There is nothing wrong.  Apt thinks numix is only installed because -themes brings it in, same for other packages.  Expected and 'invalid'
[10:52] <bluesabre> yeah, thought so
[11:02] <bluesabre> Unit193: how's this wording? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11007967/
[11:05] <Unit193> bluesabre: In addition to that, brainwash noted that "installing" while it's installed or using apt-mark you get it to be marked as maual.  Also, I'd have to confirm, but Xubuntu may already have them marked as manual by default.
[11:06] <Unit193> Ah, OK.  They are auto.
[11:09] <bluesabre> commented and updated the status
[11:10] <brainwash> bluesabre: thanks
[11:20] <ochosi> bluesabre: phew, several MRs again for the greeter
[11:57] <bluesabre> ochosi: yup
[11:57] <bluesabre> they look okay from what I can tell
[11:58] <bluesabre> I think I'll merge them in and release this weekend
[11:59] <bluesabre> unless you want to test and merge them
[12:00] <bluesabre> ochosi: Unit193 also mentioned that there is some graphical oddities with Numix, in case you're interested in investigating
[12:00] <bluesabre> s/is/are
[12:01] <ochosi> re:greeter sounds fine to me
[12:02] <bluesabre> daily ppa still works in case you'd rather not build
[12:02] <bluesabre> since the greeter can be a pain to install sometimes
[12:02] <bluesabre> :)
[12:03] <ochosi> i can try tomorrow
[12:03] <ochosi> today i have a worky worky day
[12:03] <bluesabre> np
[12:03] <ochosi> tomorrow will be actually 50% FOSS
[12:03] <bluesabre> time for me to boogie, I'll bbl
[12:03] <ochosi> which is almost 90% more than most other days recently :)
[12:04] <bluesabre> have a good day ochosi (and everybody else)
[12:04] <ochosi> you too!
[12:04] <ochosi> Unit193: wanna outline the Numix oddities bluesabre mentioned..?
[12:05] <Unit193> ochosi: Can't miss it.  Really, you can't. :P
[12:05] <Unit193> Greybird like background.
[12:05] <ochosi> i'm not really using Numix for anything, so what context are we talking about?
[12:05] <ochosi> just the greeter?
[12:07] <Unit193> The background, there is none.  It's all the color of greybird.
[12:07] <ochosi> oh
[12:07] <ochosi> starting from what greeter version?
[12:07] <Unit193> Whichever one bluesabre pointed me at.  One in vivid is fine.
[12:08] <ochosi> k
[12:08] <ochosi> i'll take a look at that
[12:12] <ochosi> i can't believe i just took an actual note about that on an actual sticky note...
[12:12] <ochosi> i guess my life is getting more analogue
[12:12] <ochosi> next thing you know, i'll use my actual desk for actual work
[12:13] <Unit193> \o/
[12:16] <ochosi> Unit193: looks to me like only the panel is grey
[12:16] <ochosi> the wallpaper shows fine
[12:16] <ochosi> or did you mean there's a problem when disabling the wallpaper?
[12:16] <Unit193> Nope, no wallpaper.
[12:16] <ochosi> (and yeah, the panel needs fixing definitely)
[12:16] <Unit193> Let me boot it.
[12:17] <Unit193> if it helps, it was enough to make me comment about it.
[12:17] <ochosi> i'll fix the panel tomorrow for sure, if you can give me a clear description of the issue with the background and your lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf file ideally so that i can reproduce, i'll take a peek tonight
[12:17] <ochosi> (if i get to it, i'll fix both tonight)
[12:17] <ochosi> and thanks for bringing it up
[12:17] <ochosi> i guess other themes need fixes too then
[12:18] <ochosi> gotta run
[12:18] <ochosi> hf and ttyl
[12:22] <Unit193> ochosi: http://i.imgur.com/w95uvw6.png
[14:56] <elfy> ochosi: so - all done on laptop - which is a clean install as was desktop - get the same results too
[17:20] <pleia2> meeting scheduled \o/
[17:20] <elfy> oh
[17:20] <elfy> except that Tuesday ...
[17:20] <elfy> :D
[17:20] <pleia2> :P
[17:21] <elfy> I'd added some topics
[17:21] <pleia2> great
[17:53] <slickymasterWork> pleia2: did you add the meeting to the team calendar?
[17:54] <pleia2> slickymasterWork: yep, and the wiki
[17:54] <slickymasterWork> great, if you hadn't I0d be more than happy to do it for you ;)
[17:59] <pleia2> thanks :)
[18:00] <slickymasterWork> sure, np
[18:31] <ochosi> elfy: ok, well good to know. even if it doesn't really make me happy.
[18:31] <ochosi> Unit193: interesting. i guess i should ask what this is supposed to look like.
[18:31] <ochosi> i mean: ask satya
[18:32] <ochosi> i presume the panel shouldn't be all grey
[18:32] <ochosi> this is numix git master, right?
[18:33] <ochosi> ok, i think i found the problem/solution
[18:35] <ochosi> Unit193: i pushed the fix to git, please lemme know whether it works and if it does, maybe we can get it into 15.04
[18:36] <Unit193> Ah, cool.
[18:37] <ochosi> at least it wfm
[20:34] <ochosi> Unit193: not sure whether you have tried my numix patch yet, but as soon as you do, please lemme know. i'd like to cross that off my list ;)
[20:34] <Unit193> Understood, booting.
[20:34] <ochosi> no rush, you don't have to test straight away, i just wanted to make sure i passed on the responsibility to someone else ;)
[20:35] <elfy> awesomest plan ever
[20:35] <ochosi> :)
[20:35]  * Unit193 ponders the best way to test this.
[20:36] <ochosi> well, boot 15.04, copy git master of Numix over /usr/share/themes/Numix and lock your session
[20:36] <ochosi> assuming you have already selected it for the greeter
[20:39] <Unit193> Was thinking download source, patch, rebuild. :D
[20:39] <elfy> ochosi: yea - that's possibly not ideal - but on the other hand if fix - fixes both here
[20:39] <ochosi> Unit193: think again ;)
[20:40] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, actually it's ok cause it's consistent with my results. so the original bugreport is likely just bollocks and since i couldn't see anything to potentially fix there specifically, i'm happy it's something else
[20:40] <elfy> okey doke
[20:41] <elfy> always happy to oblige :D
[20:41] <Unit193> ochosi: Yeah, that does it.  Slight wallpaper flicker to black so it's still not seemless, but personally don't care.
[20:41] <Unit193> Thanks.
[20:43] <ochosi> elfy: i'll set up my test env tomorrow and as soon as it works on my lappy i'll send you a patch to test
[20:43] <elfy> ochosi: ok
[20:44] <ochosi> Unit193: kewl. if you wanna file an SRU for 15.04, that'd be most welcome );
[20:44] <Unit193> It's not needed, ochosi.
[20:45] <ochosi> it is not?
[20:45] <ochosi> you mean this is not the droid errr... fix we were looking for?
[20:47] <Unit193> ochosi: Fix yes, but it'll be valid for wombat.  As I said, vivid is unaffected, it's the new greeter bluesabre is working on and asked if it followed the config style correctly.
[20:47] <ochosi> hmright, actually in vivid i get a grey background for the greeter's panel
[20:48] <ochosi> with Numix
[20:48] <Noskcaj> Can someone please sync libxfcegui4, ristretto, maybe thunar (it doesn't seem to use udisks2 anymore), xfce4, xfce4-fsguard-plugin, xfce4-diskperf-plugin, xfce4-mpc-plugin, xfce4-netload-plugin, xfce4-xkb-plugin, and xfce4-taskmanager
[20:48] <ochosi> and i'm not using the greeter daily PPA atm
[20:48] <Unit193> Noskcaj: bluesabre is going to look into it yet.
[20:49] <Noskcaj> Unit193, ok. That's the list of everything that we can sync, hopefully it helps
[20:49] <Noskcaj> I might have time to do a few merges over the weekend if they don't get done sooner
[20:50] <Unit193> https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce.html and https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce412.html was what I was going off of.


[11:47] <mup> Issue operator#999 opened: secret.get_content() un-intuitively cached locally <Created by juditnovak> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/999>
[23:15] <mup> PR operator#1000 opened: fix(model): ensure Secret.get_content returns a copy of the dict <Created by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1000>
[23:46] <mup> Issue operator#999 closed: secret.get_content() un-intuitively cached locally <Created by juditnovak> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/999>
[23:46] <mup> PR operator#1000 closed: fix(model): ensure Secret.get_content returns a copy of the dict <Created by benhoyt> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/1000>


[01:12] <xubuntu09w> hola
[10:27] <frad> hi, I added geany, terminal and thunar to my 'app autostart' under settings and now, everytime I log in, the gui doesnt fully load, just a terminal and the wallpaper. the terminal is fully functioning. If I close it, the the gui loads correctly, and the 3 mentioned programs open
[10:27] <frad> I belive the reason is the following:
[10:28] <frad> Adding thunar, the command I wrote is simply 'thunar' given that if it write 'tunar' in a terminal, thunar will open
[10:28] <frad> the same for geany and terminal
[10:28] <frad> how do I fix this, to get the gui fully loaded from the beginning
[10:34] <brainwash> frad: only the terminal triggers this problem?
[10:35] <frad> brainwash, Im not sure, after closing the terminal I received a message: 'home/mike/.profile does not load correctly'
[10:35] <frad> 'fix the problem asap'
[10:36] <brainwash> did you have some custom lines in your .profile file?
[10:36] <brainwash> maybe in .bashrc too
[10:38] <frad> not that I know, but I believe 'xfce-terminal' should be at the end of my ~/.profile...
[10:38] <frad> im pasting it
[10:38] <brainwash> why would it be there?
[10:38] <frad> I dont know, apparently I added it. Deleting now
[10:39] <frad> ok brainwash should I restart the machine to see what happens?
[10:39] <brainwash> a relog should do
[10:39] <frad> brb
[10:43] <frad> thx brainwash it worked
[10:43] <brainwash> great :)
[10:43] <frad> brainwash, is there a shortcut to turn xubuntu off?
[10:44] <brainwash> I don't actually don't know
[10:45] <brainwash> there may be one to trigger the session logout dialog
[10:45] <brainwash> but you can add own keybinds anyway
[10:52] <frad> brainwash, if I execute 'exit' xubuntu will turn off, correct?
[10:53] <brainwash> use 'xfce4-session-logout --halt --fast'
[10:53] <brainwash> the --fast prevents session saving
[10:55] <brainwash> 'exit' is a shell command
[10:55] <frad> allright
[16:29] <xubuntu29i> hi
[16:34] <xubuntu13i> hello
[16:35] <xubuntu13i> hello
[16:35] <xubuntu13i> anybody is here?
[16:35] <xubuntu13i> this is cacot
[19:03] <ddoobb> how can I disable bluetooth after using it if I don't have the applet? (I don't want to crowd the taskbar panel)
[19:04] <ddoobb> Bluetooth manager app for some reason has no option to turn the bluetooth off
[19:48] <kumool> ddoobb, you can open the applet and then quit
[19:50] <kumool> ddoobb, session and startup to disable bluetooth app
[20:00] <ddoobb> thanks kumool


[00:09] <nacc> smoser: while trying to import freeradius `gbp import-orig` died on seeing '-- Arran Cudbard-Bell<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Thu, 30 April 2014 11:35:00 +0100
[00:09] <nacc> as dpkg-parsechangelog requires Apr not APril
[00:11] <nacc> i think it's unfortuante (and sort of unclear to me) why gbp uses debian/changelog on an upstream to determine the version
[00:11] <nacc> oh i see
[00:11] <nacc> it uses if it can find it, but doesn't properly ahndle parse errors
[00:12] <nacc> smoser: i might make pristine-tar failure non-fatal
[01:32] <nacc> doko: sigh, it seems like there is not a measn to disable collectd in freeradius 3.x
[01:32] <nacc> rbasak: jgrimm --^
[01:43] <nacc> doko: ah interesting, just dropping the build-dep, though, does seem to work
[09:41] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: are you explicitly syncing haskell packages?
[10:07] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, yes, in the correct order
[10:07] <LocutusOfBorg> see -release discussion a few hours ago
[10:32] <mapreri> does launchpad understands and make use of alternate build-dependencies, as opposed to wanna-build?
[10:39] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't think so, but not sure
[12:56] <cjwatson> mapreri: yes - specifically it uses sbuild --resolve-alternatives
[12:56] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: ^-
[13:01] <mapreri> cjwatson: I see, thank you.
[15:37] <ilmaisin> is trying to getting 16.04 working right somehow considered a lost cause now?
[15:38] <ilmaisin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1598300
[15:40] <ilmaisin> quite serious bugs are ignored for months
[15:46] <ilmaisin> it's hard to imagine such important bug being ignored like this in any other mainstream distro, of course this happens often on many less important packages, but on ubuntu this happens on core components
[15:57] <ilmaisin> as of now it's hard to recommend ubuntu or at least 16.04 to "normal" people who would rather use their computers instead of working around ridiculous bugs
[16:15] <dobey> clearly the wey to get bugs fixed is troll on irc
[16:16] <dobey> and the bug hardly seems to be "ignored for months"
[16:20] <ilmaisin> dobey: ubuntu's "wey" seems to be name-calling and and not doing any qa
[19:14] <gQuigs> mhall119: hi there, would it be possible to have this event moved earlier on Wednesday? - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture-discussions/


 VFW5
[06:23] <linux-karl> How is everyone this evening
[06:23] <linux-karl> ?
[07:28] <rauldipeas> Hey guys, any news about the fix for this bug?
[07:28] <rauldipeas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1944468
[08:58] <oerheks> rauldipeas, see #36 This bug was fixed in the package glibc - 2.34-0ubuntu3
[08:58] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc
[09:29] <rauldipeas> @oerks i'm still getting this error in some programas.
[09:30] <rauldipeas> BlueMail, Freezer, GraSSHopper, etc.
[09:30] <rauldipeas> oerheks
 ZD5N
 HZDO
 62R0
[09:32] <oerheks> rauldipeas, are still on impish 21.10 ?
[09:32] <rauldipeas> I'm on 22.04
 62RO
 BMME
[09:33] <oerheks> annoying telegram..
 HELOO GUYS. i can't upgrade my kubuntu to 22.04
 says there is no lts distro
 what should i do?
[09:35] <oerheks> only freezer is in our repos..  i see no bugreports https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freezer
[09:36] <oerheks> mahbod  upgrade path will be available with the 22.04.1 point release
[09:37] <oerheks> or change upgate settings LTS . LTS to ' any new version'  ?
 please sent me terminal command (re @IrcsomeBot: <oerheks> or change upgate settings LTS . LTS to ' any new version'  ?)
[09:38] <oerheks> no terminal command, use the gui
 i refresh discover but there is nothing to upgrade (re @IrcsomeBot: <oerheks> no terminal command, use the gui)
 6 0 8 8 is the verfication code
 6 0 8 8 is the verfication code (re @join_captcha_bot: )
[11:04] <user|52> hello
[11:04] <user|52> sorry to bother you
[11:05] <user|52> trying to install 22.04 on lenovo l560
[11:05] <user|52> crashing on boot live cd
[11:05] <user|52> i turn on vt in bios. secure boot is off
[11:05] <user|52> last error is
[11:06] <user|52> failed to start ubuntu live cd instaler. service.y.
[11:07] <user|52> 20.10 boots ok and works only higher cpu playing youtube in firefox vs win 10 on same machine
[11:07] <user|52> anyone?
[11:09] <kubuntu2> Hello. Who has informations about the description of the '/etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-media'?
[11:09] <kubuntu2> I would fade out one internal disk (m2 ssd) from the disc-list on the plasma app in kubuntu 21.04.
[11:09] <kubuntu2> THX
[11:11] <kubuntu2> user52: Wich version did you install? 32bit or 64bit?
[11:13] <user|52> 64
[11:14] <user|52> just booting to live dvd
[11:14] <user|52> want to return to kubuntu after 14.04
[11:14] <user|52> long time using windows
[11:15] <user|52> i think there is no 32bit anymore
[11:15] <user|52> 20.10  boots, 22.04 error installer
 Please help me, i refresh discover for update but there is no LTS 22.04 to upgrade.
 My kubuntu is 20.04 and i like to upgrade to 22.04 but can't (re @IrcsomeBot: <oerheks> no terminal command, use the gui)
[11:22] <user|52> why you want to upgrade?
[11:22] <user|52> i can not install it ;)
[11:23] <user|52> this is problem with gnu/linux
[11:23] <user|52> install
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:32] <user|52> Hola Kaj
[11:33] <BluesKaj> hi user|52
[11:33] <user|52> whats up?
[11:34] <BluesKaj> morning coffee atm , and you?
[11:34] <user|52> drinking water. they say its clear :)
 i want but i cant (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|52> why you want to upgrade?)
[11:38] <kubuntu2> The terminal comand is: 'sudo do-release-upgrade -y' (the -y option is to answer every quesion with yes)
[11:53] <arraybolt3> MAHBOD_NAVVABI: This is intentional behavior - you can't upgrade directly from 20.04 to 22.04 until 22.04.1 is released. This makes it so that everyone who's OK with using a brand-new OS can iron out the bugs first, and then users who are running LTS because they need stability can upgrade once the new release has stabilized. If you are one of those users who wants to use the brand-new OS and are OK with possible instabilities, you might be able to
[11:53] <arraybolt3> upgrade in stages, but it's probably easier and safer to reinstall from scratch. Or just wait six months for 22.04.1 to come out.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> upgrading from a LTS to the next can be done before the .1 release with sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:59] <user|52> what about my problem
[11:59] <user|52> :)
[11:59] <user|52> hilfe help pomoć ayuda
[12:00] <arraybolt3> LOL I'm looking at it right now.
[12:00] <arraybolt3> user|52: Ping
[12:00] <user|52> ok waiting
[12:01] <BluesKaj> user|52, i missed your issue, I joined after you posted
[12:02] <user|52> i repeat :
[12:02] <arraybolt3> user|52: The error you're mentioning isn't giving a whole lot of data. Could you kindly take a picture of the error screen with your phone and upload it to Imgur or something like that, then give us a link?
[12:02] <user|52> hello
[12:02] <user|52> sorry to bother you
[12:02] <user|52> trying to install 22.04 on lenovo l560
[12:02] <user|52> crashing on boot live cd
[12:02] <user|52> i turn on vt in bios. secure boot is off
[12:02] <user|52> last error is
[12:04] <user|52> even 20.4.4 is working
[12:04] <arraybolt3> user|52: Yes, I know that, but the last error isn't helpful. I need to see all the errors on the screen.
[12:04] <user|52> i think installer is bugged in 22.04
[12:04] <user|52> i remember i couldnt installed pre final in vm
[12:05] <arraybolt3> The 22.04 installer works for me in Gnome Boxes - boots up and installs just fine.
[12:05] <user|52> you must be programmer array :)
[12:07] <arraybolt3> Nah, just got different hardware than you. (Well, actually, I am a programmer, but I don't think that has to do with who can and can't get an ISO to boot LOL)
[12:07] <user|52> jaja
[12:07] <user|52> i knew
[12:08] <arraybolt3> The fact that you weren't even able to get it working in a VM makes me think maybe you have a bad ISO download. Can you do "sha256sum ./kubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso" in the folder where your ISO is, and tell me the output?
[12:09] <user|52> ok i will check it
[12:09] <user|52> comparing now 20.04 with win in same laptop now
[12:10] <user|52> yeah i know it is only live
[12:10] <arraybolt3> You don't need to go through the whole checking process - I have a known-good ISO and can simply check your checksum against mine.
[12:10] <user|52> but this laptop has 16gb
[12:11] <user|52> dual core i5 with ht enabled
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 Hello! I have a noob question
 ¿Why is Gnome installed on Kubuntu 22.04? Is it needed for GTF programs?
 ¿Why is Gnome installed on Kubuntu 22.04? Is it needed for GTK programs?
 Gnome is not installed by default on Kubuntu 22.04
 any deb packages that is
 unless you mean the gnome platform snap, that is needed for Firefox
 What I mean is, I see this in Discover:
 GNOME Application Platform version 3.38 (flatpak)
 gnome-3-38-2004 (snap)
 What I mean is, I see this in Discover in the Installed section:
 GNOME Application Platform version 3.38 (flatpak)
 gnome-3-38-2004 (snap)
[18:32] <arraybolt3>  That's the gnome snap package, so I'd guess that's probably for Firefox.
 Correct
 We don't even have flatpak installed by default, so that is something that the user has done post install
 I see, makes sense. Thanks a lot!
 I come from Pop!_OS with KDE, but Kubuntu feels sooo much better on this PC! I absolutely love it
 Does anyone have Bluetooth audio devices working on Kubuntu 22.04?
 It's not working for me. I can pair the device but then it doesn't recognize it as an audio device.
 It seems to conflict with pulse effects