[08:48] <tupa> supposedly
[08:48] <somedrew> ding0k, nope never tried smart :( Heard of it, but haven't played around. Hasn't smart adoption slowed down recently?
[08:48] <somedrew> wubinoobi, np
[08:48] <Dezine> Can anyone tell me where the gaim plugins folder is located?
[08:48] <eps> I'm after an application to edit video media under linux?
[08:49] <eps> Dezine, probably ~/.gaim/plugins
[08:49] <buntunub> !kino
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <ding0k> somedrew: In what community? In the suse community it was a reaction to yast/zmd sucking. They're replacing that with an opensuse-only / non-novel tool that isn't as good. None of it is as good as smart, though.
[08:49] <buntunub> !cinelarra
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cinelarra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <metalac> hey guys
[08:50] <metalac> i can't for the life of me connect to my network trying 3 different wired cards
[08:50] <metalac> and i know one of them is 100% supported by tulip driver
[08:50] <metalac> i see the cards in the network manager and all
[08:50] <somedrew> tupa, argh... -K should kill the timstamp completely and not require a password. Have you tried a reboot? I've heard of that issue before, I'm checking now
[08:50] <eps> thanks buntunub
[08:50] <tupa> hah
[08:50] <metalac> it seemed that ipv6 was the culprit but now i disabled it and it's still the same
[08:50] <metalac> tried both dhcp and static
[08:50] <metalac> any clues?
[08:50] <tupa> weird
[08:50] <buntunub> !networking
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <tupa> the first time sudo -K didn't work, I have it in history
[08:51] <tupa> with capital K
[08:51] <somedrew> ding0k, mostly just general adoption. It looks really promising though
[08:51] <tupa> thanks somedrew
[08:51] <ding0k> somedrew: smart is good because its interface replaces pretty much everything else you already use. You can use it to install rpms directly, or remotely via http, or remotely via a repo of several different types.
[08:51] <flaccid> any #kubuntu ops here?
[08:51] <buntunub> metalac check out the networking wiki's at ubuntu.org
[08:52] <ding0k> somedrew:I'm not exactly an active community member, so I can't speak to its adoption. I don't hang around in IRC channels unless I'm having problems. :)
[08:52] <metalac>  buntunub: will give it a try
[08:52] <buntunub> should do the trick lotta good stuff there
[08:52] <jube> I've noticed sbackup excludes /proc /tmp /dev /var/cache /var/tmp and /sys........... Are these directories not needed when restoring a full system backup???
[08:52] <somedrew> tupa, the bottom post on this page looks like it should do it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[08:53] <tupa> somedrew: fixed
[08:53] <somedrew> ding0k, sounds good. Is there an easy way with smart (or some 3rd party app) to make your own rmps easily?
[08:54] <tupa> I thought I ran sudo -K, it's even in bash history, maybe I forgot to type enter before reading the man
[08:54] <somedrew> tupa, nice! Yeah, -K should have done it...I was wondering what was going on
[08:55] <somedrew> ding0k, brain fart...I guess checkinstall would do the trick
[08:55] <dissection> I tried to make a .zip file of my download folder of around 5GB but it said core dumped, limit exceeded..What else can I use for compresing them (windows friendly archive)?
[08:56] <ding0k> somedrew: I'm not sure, to be honest. I think that is out of scope.
[08:56] <zerokill88> God after hours of searching and searching,and no luck of anyhting working, does anyone know how to set up a cell phone as a modem? do i need to install drivers for Ubuntu to detect a cell phone???
[08:57] <Simkin> zerokill88: serial or usb ?
[08:57] <Simkin> or perhaps bluetooth?
[08:58] <zerokill88> Simkin im connected through a cable using usb
[08:58] <ding0k> somedrew: I think it just provides package manager functions. What I usually do is keep the 3rd party repos configured with smart, and keep the opensuse/yast stuff configured for the suse DVD -- so I can install base stuff easily from one place, but upgrade new stuff from another. It all just kind of seamlessly works. If I download an rpm I can install it with yast or with smart and they both just figure out what's going on..smart is just
[08:58] <ding0k> way better about resolving dependencies...I also like that if you search for a package it'll make suggestions "we couldn't find that...but what about these?"
[08:58] <Kawika> dissection, have you tried 7-zip.org?
[08:58] <somedrew> dissection, what filesystem are you using? ext3 has a 4GB file-size limit AFAIK. bzip2 may cut it down to under 4...not sure if any windows apps supports it though (7-zip may). Easiest way would be to just split it up
[08:58] <Simkin> zerokill88: ok, that cable is probably (99% sure) a usb to serial converter.
[08:58] <zerokill88> Simkin i can connect to it with moto4lin and see all the files on my phone, but ive been trying to use wvdial to use my phone as a modem but it wont workd
[08:59] <Simkin> zerokill88: you should be able to just connect up as a serial port and dial out.
[08:59] <zerokill88> Simkin what do you mean?
[08:59] <zerokill88> Simkin how?
[08:59] <sauvin> Is midnight commander available for ubuntu? I'm not seeing it in the "Add/Remove Applications" thingie...
[08:59] <Lo_Pan> apt-get install mc
[09:00] <zerokill88> Simkin should ubuntu automatically detect my phone when connected? and if its not, are you tring to say its because of the serial converted cable?
[09:00] <dissection> Kawika: I don't see a link to the linux version of 7-zip on that site.
[09:00] <Lo_Pan> dunno which repo it's in
[09:00] <burner> !info 7zip | dissection
[09:00] <disinterested> hhey, would a 52" tv work as a monitor off the s-video jack from my video card?
[09:00] <ubotu> dissection: Package 7zip does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:00] <dissection> somedrew: I was trying it in ext3. The reason I was trying to zip was because when I extract them using File Reader in Windows, the directory structure is lost and all files will be in the same folder.
[09:00] <somedrew> sauvin, yup it does (maybe not in add-remove, but it's in the repos)
[09:00] <burner> dissection: applications -> add/remove change to all available applications in top right and you'll find 7zip
[09:00] <Simkin> zerokill88: what port is your phone on when you connect it?
[09:01] <Kawika> dissection, click on download (on the left) and look at the bottom... unofficial versions
[09:01] <sauvin> You guys rule. It's there... and damn! it's faster than on fedora!
[09:02] <zerokill88> Simkin i believe my first usb port. wich is ttyACM0?
[09:02] <Kawika> dissection, sorry, it looks like command line only.  That might be a pain.
[09:02] <somedrew> dissection, there seem to be plenty of bzip2 compatible windows file-archivers. bzip2 is a little more effecient than .zip...7zip even more so. Maybe they can bring it down enough?
[09:02] <somedrew> Yup, 7zip is cli-only for linux. It's pretty straightfoward though
[09:03] <dissection> Oh okay
[09:03] <zerokill88> Simkin well maybe not, i have 4 ports that look like usb, but when i looekd inside of them, the ones ive been connecting to look different on the inside,
[09:03] <dissection> I think I better put them in 5 different folders then and zip them separately
[09:03] <tupa> somedrew, I checked some site days ago, RAR had one of the best compression rates
[09:03] <somedrew> tupa, really? I wasn't aware, thanks
[09:03] <mpech> ha
[09:03] <mpech> no memcache port for python :/
[09:04] <zerokill88> Simkin when i run wvdialconf i get this     WvModem<*1>: Cannot get information for serial port.
[09:04] <sport> anyone know if in networking the layers are in the necessary order of operation that is implied ( first top to bottom then bottom to up)?
[09:05] <Simkin> zerokill88: i'm not familiar with wvdialconf
[09:05] <sauvin> Rar is buyware :\
[09:05] <metalac> well the wiki didn't help all that much
[09:06] <zerokill88> Simkin can you help me connect to the net through my phone the way you know how???
[09:06] <zerokill88> plz
[09:06] <kporter> any one know y xdcc transfers will not work for me on xchat-gnome?
[09:06] <Simkin> zerokill88: maybe try out minicom, see if you can use it to communicte with the phone as a modem (send it a few at commands asee if you get an "OK" back)
[09:06] <g[r] eek> hi - any help appreciated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=506019
[09:06] <metalac> not sure what the deal with my networking is, i get some NO DHCPOFFERS recieved errors
[09:06] <Simkin> zerokill88: then you can determine if you have the right port or not, once you have that the rest should be easy!
[09:06] <metalac> i know my dhcp server works fine since rest of the computers are fine
[09:06] <zerokill88> Simkin ok, is that in the respitories
[09:06] <sauvin> kporter, it might be a port issue. What ports are you using?
[09:06] <Simkin> I used that to connect through my cell phone zerokill88, http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
[09:07] <ding0k> somedrew: well, round 1 finished. I guess I'll try a reboot.
[09:07] <somedrew> ding0k, think good thoughts!
[09:07] <sport> metalac: hey can you explain the purpose of a dhcp server. I thought dhcp was protocol to obtian your ip from your isp?
[09:08] <ding0k> metalac: that's an oversimplification, but you've got the jist of it.
[09:08] <zerokill88> Simkin ok i ran minicom now what do i do or type
[09:08] <kporter> sauvin, should be xchat default as I just installed it a moment ago
[09:08] <ding0k> oops, I'm tired: to sport, not metalac.
[09:09] <sauvin> I can't comment about the gnome version of xchat; I ditched it FAST for the full version.
[09:09] <sport> dingok: so thats not right D:
[09:09] <Simkin> zerokill88: go into the config screena nd change the serial port
[09:09] <Kawika> metalac, have you tried setting a static IP on your card and seeing if it works that way ?
[09:09] <Simkin> zerokill88: and then just type at(enter)
[09:09] <Simkin> it should respond with "OK"
[09:09] <kporter> sauvin, k Guess I'll have to try that thx
[09:09] <metalac> sport: doesn't have to be from your ISP, could be your router or dedicated dhcp server in my case
[09:09] <metalac> Kawika: yep that doesn't work either
[09:09] <zerokill88> Simkin this is all i get Welcome to minicom 2.2
[09:09] <zerokill88> OPTIONS: I18n
[09:09] <zerokill88> Compiled on Mar  7 2007, 15:10:03.
[09:09] <zerokill88> Port /dev/tty8
[09:09] <zerokill88>               Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys
[09:09] <zerokill88> sorry room
[09:09] <leagris> hello, anyone can help about maildrop from the courier-imap package?
[09:09] <ding0k> sport: dhcp isn't the only way that ISPs can assign IP addresses to hosts. And, of course, you don't have to be an ISP to run a dhcp server. :)
[09:10] <BrendanM> Is there a way to SSH into my Ubuntu box, launch a GUI app, and then disconnect and leave the app running?
[09:10] <Simkin> zerokill88: ctrl-a z looks like where you want to go
[09:10] <BrendanM> I figured out how to use Screen to do it for terminal apps, but not for X apps
[09:10] <ding0k> somedrew: apache is broken.
[09:10] <ding0k> somedrew: lol
[09:10] <Kawika> metalac, what kind of NIC's are you using?
[09:10] <zerokill88> Simkin ah i hove a hotkey for ctrlz gota change that
[09:10] <ding0k> looks like ssh is too
[09:10] <Simkin> zerokill88: ctrl a, then z
[09:10] <Simkin> not ctrl-z
[09:10] <metalac> Kawika: one of the tulip ones, i know it runs 100% fine since i took it out of another working box
[09:10] <Salmon_Maki> What are the minimum requirements for using Ubuntu? I want to set up a cheap computer with it and let my little sister abuse it.
[09:10] <ding0k> somedrew: sweet, R.I.P. my server.
[09:11] <sport> dingok: so a didicated dhcp server would be for a intranet? *crosses finger*
[09:11] <xyyzzz> If I wanted my computer to execute a command every time it started up (for example, ping another computer), how would I go about doing that?
[09:11] <metalac> Kawika: it get's recognized just fine by lspci and what not
[09:11] <g[r] eek> xyyzz: google ubuntu rc.local
[09:11] <somedrew> ding0k, lol.. it booted though right? Still have access to triage apache?
[09:11] <playme123> were do you live salmon
[09:11] <sport> dingok: or for a network of networks outside of the internets
[09:11] <xyyzzz> g[r] eek, thank you :)
[09:11] <ziroday> xyyzzz: write a script and put it under sessions
[09:12] <Kawika> metalac: that's strange.  The few boxes that I have setup found the NIC's right off
[09:12] <ding0k> somedrew: It booted, but so far all I can do is ping it.
[09:12] <zerokill88> Simkin now why did you want me to change serial device?
[09:12] <zerokill88> Simkin it says its dev/tty8
[09:12] <metalac> Kawika: well this one is seen by the OS just fine, it's just that when i try to get outside it won't do it, as if the cable is unpluged or something
[09:12] <ding0k> somedrew: what is "triage" apache?
[09:13] <leagris> hello, anyone can help about maidrop from the courier-imap package, for setting multiple KEYWORDS on delivered message? Work fine with one keyword but setting multiples ones fail.
[09:13] <ding0k> somedrew: ooh I can ssh now
[09:13] <somedrew> ding0k, just figure out what the issue is a do a quick fix
[09:13] <Simkin> zerokill88: change it to what port you think the modem is on.
[09:13] <ding0k> somedrew: well, now maybe I can, before I couldn't ssh. :)
[09:13] <somedrew> ding0k, yay ssh! Ok...so this should be doable without a lengthly drive~!
[09:14] <zerokill88> Simkin oh ok, so it doesnt automatiaclly check it for you, then what, how do i set up everyhting else? sorry for so many newb question
[09:14] <Kawika> metalac: I'm too much of a noob on Ubuntu to know where to start.  I'm a bit more familiar in that "other" OS.
[09:15] <tupa> does someone know how to "refresh" a terminal after you edit .bashrc without restarting the terminal?
[09:15] <Simkin> zerokill88: once we find the port we'll see what we can do next. also, what cell phone do you have?
[09:15] <Simkin> zerokill88: i think you should have a /dev/ttySUSB0 or something to that effect.. not sure though
[09:15] <tupa> I've seen that command somewhere but I forgot it
[09:15] <metalac> Kawika: well i'm a gentoo user myself for the past 4-5 years and ubuntu is a bit strange in some things
[09:15] <somedrew> tupa, either ". ~/.bashrc" or "source ~/.bashrc"
[09:16] <zerokill88> Simkin i can connect to my Razr v3 with Moto4lin and see all my phone files and it says the ACM device is /dev/usb/acm/0
[09:16] <tupa> oh, yes that was it, source
[09:16] <tupa> :)
[09:16] <kporter> Well getting the full version worked... weird :)  thanks
[09:16] <Kawika> metalac: I've loaded Ubuntu and Edubuntu Server and am loving it
[09:16] <zerokill88> Simkin would i type that fullpath?
[09:16] <Simkin> zerokill88: try that in minicom then.
[09:16] <Simkin> zerokill88: not sure what acm is though
[09:16] <Disabled> hello
[09:17] <Disabled> it is possible to install ubuntu with an flash card?
[09:17] <zerokill88> Simkin what else would i have to edit
[09:17] <sauvin> kporter, glad to help :)
[09:17] <ding0k> somedrew: well, everything seems to be working -- I think the apache was an upstart issue.
[09:17] <somedrew> Disabled, as long as your BIOS supports booting from USB you can (there should be lots of information around. haven't done it myself though)
[09:18] <ding0k> somedrew: like, the new package expected upstart to start it but upstart wasn't installed yet.
[09:18] <Disabled> somedrew ok.. becouse my cd-rom harm all my Cds and then can't boot them
[09:18] <somedrew> ding0k, nice! Wiped the sweat off your forehead yet?
[09:18] <ding0k> somedrew: after another reboot I will. ;)
[09:19] <sport> somedrew: where does your system audit the dns from?
[09:19] <somedrew> ding0k, yeah, I mentioned the upstart issue because I thought something may come of it (it was setup to install after everything else to help avoid issues...not sure of the technicalities)
[09:19] <Simkin> zerokill88: i'm not sure, i'm googling for your phone and linux and internet.. not finding much
[09:20] <somedrew> sport, , I'm using my isp's dns servers, is that what you're refering to? Why?
[09:20] <sport> somedrew i meant "your" as a general thing not literally you
[09:20] <ding0k> somedrew: so, I was wrong, my server's page was cached..apache is still down. Want to give me a crash course in how to start a daemon using upstart?
[09:21] <zerokill88> Simkin thanks, but now i get this when i try to run minicom   minicom: cannot open /dev/usb/acm/0: No such file or directory
[09:21] <ding0k> somedrew: scratch that, now it's up again -- this is strange.
[09:21] <zerokill88> Simkin how do i change it back
[09:21] <somedrew> sport, I don't mess around with networking that much, but I believe it's /etc/reslv.conf
[09:21] <Simkin> zerokill88: same way.
[09:21] <Simkin> zerokill88: ctrl-a, z, o etc.
[09:21] <noodle____> does anyone know how i can fix my gdm splash screen font? it's sooo tiny
[09:21] <somedrew> sport, typo: /etc/resolv.conf
[09:22] <zerokill88> Simkin no thats all i get when i run   minicom in terminal it doesnt start
[09:22] <dissection> somedrew: If ext3 has a 4GB file-size limit, what about DVD images? Those're usually around 6GB
[09:22] <sport> somedrew: i meant does it just referance your isp: do all isp have "the phone book"
[09:22] <Simkin> zerokill88: delete the config files, probably ~/.minicom
[09:22] <metbsd> ext3 has 4G file size limit?
[09:23] <somedrew> sport, yup. All isps *should* have them...and there are lots of freely available dns servers as well
[09:23] <tupa> somedrew: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30662/  call it weird huh?
[09:23] <Kawika> sport: I've found that some ISP's DNS is slower than others.  Hence I run a set of free DNS servers that update quickly.
[09:24] <tupa> I touched sudo now
[09:24] <sport> somedrew: thanks Im trying to teach myself networking and it tough, do you mind if i sporadically ask you questions ? :D
[09:24] <NETWizz> do any of you do seamless rdp
[09:24] <hexstar> !offlist
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <hexstar> !ubuntu offlist
[09:24] <metbsd> what do you mean "run set of dns servers"?
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu offlist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <metbsd> do you know what' dns is for?
[09:24] <leagris> NETWizz, I do
[09:24] <sport> kawika: does a slow dns server mean a slow upload?
[09:24] <hexstar> !dns
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <somedrew> dissection, not actually sure on that. Single-layer data DVDs would be under the limit and I haven't tried to write an image over 4. Some filesystems have a larger limit
[09:25] <hexstar> a dns is used for resolving a domain name, say google.com to the server ip lik <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:25] <Kawika> sport: slow meaning when domain information changes, it can take a while for them to reflect that change
[09:25] <eps> what is a good replacement for fraps? I'm trying wink but it only saves as .exe or .swf
[09:25] <ding0k> somedrew: all right, now an hour and a half later, I'm compiling what I originally wanted to.
[09:25] <hexstar> what's the ubuntu ot channel?
[09:25] <hexstar> !off topic
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <somedrew> sport, no worries. I'm not that informed about networking though. Ask away and some people should be able to help (or a good ol' wikipedia search)
[09:25] <hexstar> !ubuntu ot
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu ot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <Kawika> metbsd: I specify different DNS server information than what the ISP provides, because it updates more frequently.
[09:26] <hexstar> what's the ubuntu ot channel?
[09:26] <Sbucat_> metbsd: put this for dns gedit /etc/resolv.conf  nomeserver <IP_ADDRESS> nomeserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:26] <leagris> NETWizz, do you have question on using Remote Desktop from Ubuntu to Windows or from remote to a Ubuntu box?
[09:26] <dissection> Kawika: Can I do that even though I have a dynamic IP?
[09:26] <metbsd> DNS stand for domain name server, you don't host a domain, you don't need a DNS
[09:26] <somedrew> tupa, weird.  Sometimes its down for almost an hour or two which can get really frustrating.
[09:27] <hexstar> dissection: I don't think that's dns, I think that's the modem and/or router
[09:27] <Sbucat_> metbsd: ....for my connection i must set dns or my connection doesn t work!
[09:27] <somedrew> ding0k, you can breath now! (was it necessary to do the upgrade if you were gonna compile yourself?). Well...it's a shiny new system!
[09:27] <sauvin> Maybe. I used the dns at opendns.org, i think it was, under Fedora and it sped things up quite a bit.
[09:28] <metbsd> what you need is a dns cache, you do not setup domain name server
[09:28] <sport> kawika: what a example of an app the uses FTP ?
[09:28] <hexstar> proftpd
[09:28] <leagris> dissection, the best you can do is having a local DNS caching server on lyour lan with your ISP DNS as a forwarder or directly hooked to the root DNS's.
[09:28] <metbsd> btw, if you think your isp's dns is "slow", you should complain to them
[09:28] <ding0k> ding0k: well, what I'm compiling myself has nothing to do with packages I can download.. I'm compiling a profiler .. lol
[09:28] <metbsd> because dns is on your network, it's supposed to be fast
[09:28] <dissection> Hrm, okay
[09:28] <metbsd> dns is part of your internet service
[09:28] <sauvin> complain, comschmlain. Just use another dns.
[09:28] <arcad3> i have a question ..why mail from to google is sent to spam?
[09:29] <Sbucat_> metbsd: well my connection works this is sure ^^  if you are in wifi you must set dns....
[09:29] <Kawika> metbsd: the biggest issue I noticed is the updates, like when you change server information
[09:29] <somedrew> ding0k, heh, so I can safely assume that your conflicts have been resolved in Edgy?
[09:29] <arcad3> i have ptr record mx record SPF
[09:29] <ding0k> somedrew: yep.
[09:29] <somedrew> ding0k, :)
[09:29] <dissection> I haven't faced any problems with my new ISP but sometimes it takes a bit of time to resolve. My previous ISP was horrible at times when trying to resolve IPs.
[09:29] <ding0k> somedrew: Although java seems to have issues now. Is there some script that I run to make sure the sun java environment is happy?
[09:29] <metbsd> Kawika, change server information? what server? what information?
[09:29] <arcad3> !spf
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <Kawika> sport: hexstar mentioned one.  I'm not really up on *nix programs just yet :-)
[09:30] <metbsd> DNS is not just for hostname -> ip
[09:30] <metbsd> it's more
[09:30] <ding0k> somedrew: I know in older versions of ubuntu they had a "libgcj -> sun" script
[09:30] <arcad3> dns arcad3
[09:30] <somedrew> ding0k, It should have been setup automagically but you can try "update-alternative -config java"
[09:30] <Kawika> metbsd: I have a few clients that run their own mail servers.  In setting up the DNS info, the local ISP took from several hours to 24 hours.
[09:30] <xyyzzz> I used rc.local to execute commands at startup, but they are executing as root. Is there a way to make them execute as a different user?
[09:30] <ding0k> somedrew: that's such a memorable command that I didn't remember a single part of it
[09:30] <somedrew> ding0k, hmmm...I'm not familiar with that
[09:30] <joshritger> can anyone tell me if python-cairo is the same as python2.4-cairo?
[09:30] <ding0k> somedrew: maybe the "java" part
[09:31] <leagris> xyyzzz, su - user command
[09:31] <somedrew> ding0k, that should work (i'm going off of memory here though)
[09:31] <metbsd> ok your clients run their own mail servers, do they have a domain?
[09:31] <Kawika> metbsd: I found a "free" DNS provider (I guess you would call it), that reflects updates in under 20 minutes
[09:31] <xyyzzz> leagris, oh, sorry I thought that only worked for root...
[09:31] <xyyzzz> leagris, does it ask you for that user's password anywhere?
[09:32] <leagris> xyyzzz, as it is launched by root it won't need a passwd to change tu named user.
[09:32] <xyyzzz> leagris, okay, thanks :)
[09:32] <somedrew> ding0k, "update-alternatives" is a nice feature of Debian and distros based on it that can come in handy
[09:32] <xyyzzz> leagris, also, unfortunately my other computer won't start up now...
[09:32] <metbsd> ok, so if they have domain bbb.com, for mail server, they need to set MX record at least
[09:32] <Kawika> metbsd: yes, they have a domain that is hosted somewhere else, which makes the config that much more tricky.
[09:32] <xyyzzz> IT's saying "INIT: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes. INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel."... do you know how to make it boot without loading local.rc ?
[09:32] <can12345> Having a problem, and forums don't seem to be much help.  I am trying to install Ubuntu on my Thinkpad, and it installs fine.  When it restarts and tries to log into Ubuntu, though, I get the following error:
[09:32] <can12345> ata1: port failed to respond
[09:32] <can12345> ata1: COMRESET failed
[09:32] <can12345> Any thoughts?
[09:33] <ding0k> somedrew: ha! all that and the profiler doesn't seem to want to work over tunnel'd X
[09:33] <ding0k> somedrew: So much for that.
[09:33] <albertmk> I am having problems with qtk-recordMyDesktop. It records my desktop really well, but it is not recording the sound from the background...
[09:33] <Kawika> metbsd: yup, we went through that whole fun process of mail server is "here" and web site is "there".
[09:33] <Kawika> Godaddy makes all that pretty easy though
[09:34] <metbsd> Kawika, what's the domain
[09:34] <somedrew> ding0k, profiler issue you think or something else like x forwarding?
[09:34] <leagris> hello, anyone can help about maidrop from the courier-imap package, for setting multiple KEYWORDS on delivered message? Work fine with one keyword but setting multiples ones fail.
[09:34] <albertmk> I am having problems with qtk-recordMyDesktop. It records my desktop really well, but it is not recording the sound from the background...
[09:34] <leagris> !maildrop
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maildrop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <leagris> !courier-imap
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about courier-imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Kawika> metbsd: it's setup and running now for almost 2 years.  Running great.  New to xchat so not sure how to send privately
[09:35] <ding0k> somedrew: thanks for the help ::Waves::
[09:35] <UnknowSpace> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh\
[09:35] <metbsd> Kawika, domain need to be hosted on the root dns at least
[09:35] <ding0k> somedrew: I'm not sure what the issue is -- the error is from GTK though "can't open window"
[09:36] <metbsd> from that root dns you can host something else
[09:36] <can12345> noones heard of my issue before?  It is really frustrating.  Does it with Ubuntu and Fedora both, so I feel stuck
[09:36] <Kawika> metbsd: yes, with Godaddy, I have setup the www to point to the hosting, and mail.abc.com to the IP of the office.
[09:36] <Kawika> metbsd: where the mail server resides.
[09:36] <Taco`> I only hear sound out of one side when in Sound Preferences and testing ALSA but not with OSS, did I break something?
[09:37] <somedrew> ding0k, no prob..happy to help. I'm not sure what's going on with that error though.
[09:37] <metbsd> Kawika, so what's the problem
[09:38] <Kawika> metbsd: even went as far as having the ISP fix the reverse DNS lookup to respond mail.abc.com.
[09:38] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`: try turning the volume down completely in ALSA mixer then back up
[09:38] <MrGreencastl1> It fixes it for me
[09:38] <Kawika> metbsd: sorry, there is no problem.  I even forget how we got on this... hehe
[09:38] <metbsd> DNS should do reverse lookup too
[09:38] <Taco`> Nope, :<
[09:39] <Kawika> metbsd: yes, it's a good tool to use for spam prevention
[09:39] <sport> telnet is the protocol to use remote terminal on a lan or Internet right?
[09:39] <Flannel> sport: no.  Use SSH.
[09:39] <MajorPayne> sport: It can be, ssh is better.
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: ssh is just encrypted
[09:40] <sport> ssh is a secure protocol between two comps?
[09:40] <albertmk> How can I find out which one is my Audio Device????????????
[09:40] <MajorPayne> tarzeau: Hense it is better.
[09:40] <tupa> sport: telnet is not secure, not encrypted
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: it's also slower
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: faster is not always better
[09:40] <buntunub> ssh -X
[09:40] <MajorPayne> tarzeau: Not really.
[09:40] <buntunub> use it, learn it, live it it rocks
[09:40] <albertmk> sport: ssh is very easy to use! :D
[09:40] <sport> tupa majorpayne what else is telnet used for
[09:40] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: well let's not discuss this again
[09:40] <MrGreencastl1> Taco` : Sorry that fix is for OSS, nvm
[09:41] <metbsd> ssh has its use, telnet has its use
[09:41] <albertmk> sport: type: ssh ip
[09:41] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: there's always three things, sometimes you need speed more than security
[09:41] <buntunub> ssh -X servername@IP
[09:41] <tupa> sport, to use a shell over the net
[09:41] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: and you can do that in a special environment
[09:41] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Any fix for ALSA?
[09:41] <tupa> and control the remote computer sport
[09:41] <albertmk> sport, then it will request the password of the linux user you are logging to
[09:41] <sauvin> People still use telnet?
[09:41] <buntunub> your servers need the ssh server daemon
[09:41] <chovy> sauvin: only for http
[09:41] <somedrew> sport, you can also tunnel other connections through ssh (like VNC for example) to keep them secure as well
[09:41] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`: not that I know of, as ALSA doesn't work for me.
[09:41] <MajorPayne> tarzeau: Ok, you use telnet.
[09:41] <sport> albertmk the root user?
[09:41] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Bleh, :<
[09:41] <albertmk> sport, yes
[09:42] <metbsd> there's nothing wrong with telnet. it's just old technology
[09:42] <tarzeau> MajorPayne: i mostly use ssh, but there's good reasons for me to somtimes use telnet indeed
[09:42] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: The odd thing is, is that it works -sometimes-.
[09:42] <sport> somedrew: define tunnel and VNC XD
[09:42] <buntunub> vncviewer -via hostIP localhost:x  (x=X server)
[09:42] <Enselic> !kernel
[09:42] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:42] <albertmk> sport, until now, I shut down my computer remotely by ssh :D
[09:42] <albertmk> sport, and downloaded somethings..
[09:43] <buntunub> ssh -X  is better tho
[09:43] <sport> albertmk whats the lag on ssh ... same as ping?
[09:43] <MrGreencastl1> Taco` : ALSA works for me before the initial kernel update, but after it switches to OSS, and ALSA doesn't work, which is a bummer, since thats the only way I can get sound recording working
[09:43] <metbsd> what's most difficult server to setup?
[09:43] <buntunub> vncviewer -via is very sloooow
[09:43] <albertmk> sport, I dont know.
[09:44] <pawan> list
[09:44] <sport> albertmk lol right you wouldnt be there to see would you ....
[09:44] <albertmk> :-)
[09:44] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Fixed it! It was something in my .asoundrc file that was screwing it up.
[09:44] <buntunub> if you just want to setup a bunch of thin clients ten just use nano
[09:44] <buntunub> err nomachine
[09:44] <somedrew> sport, http://www.realvnc.com/ VNC is a way to 'remote control' computers across a network. Tunneling through SSH means that the VNC session is secured by being 'wrapped' up by the SSH connection (VNC sends everything in plaintext - no encryption)
[09:44] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: Why not just select ALSA rather than OSS?
[09:44] <buntunub> aka NX
[09:44] <MrGreencastl1> Taco` : It doesn't work
[09:45] <albertmk> I am having problems with qtk-recordMyDesktop. I have already searched on Google but I cannot find any good tutorial...
[09:45] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: No output?
[09:45] <somedrew> buntunub, , yay freeNX!
[09:45] <albertmk> I just cant record the audio with the video... no sounds ..
[09:45] <albertmk> *gtk-recordMyDesktop
[09:45] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`:  There isn't an entry, it just gets removed after I update the kernel after initial install
[09:45] <buntunub> NX is very very fast for a port forwarded session unlike tightvnc which is slooooow
[09:46] <sport> somedrew like sending a non-encypted message through a secure shh connection?
[09:46] <somedrew> buntunub, yeah it's great: but i've found it can be a bit harder to setup
[09:46] <somedrew> sport, exactly!
[09:46] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`:  Doesn't matter, I've been trying to fix it for 4 months
[09:46] <buntunub> i still think ssh -X is the way to go tho if you just need to run a few X apps
[09:46] <Taco`> MrGreencastl1: So you've tried installing ALSA manually already?
[09:46] <sport> somedrew yay thanks
[09:47] <buntunub> << im running gaim on ssh -X right now lol
[09:47] <somedrew> heh
[09:47] <albertmk> buntunub, what do you mean?
[09:47] <TiMiDo> !info compiz-fusion
[09:47] <ubotu> Package compiz-fusion does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:47] <Kawika> somedrew: do you realvnc for remote sessions?
[09:47] <you`s> hy
[09:47] <Kawika> somedrew: do you USE realvnc for remote sessions?
[09:47] <buntunub> i have gaim running on another server thats port forwarded to my laptop
[09:47] <MrGreencastl1> Taco`:  Yeah, I've tried almost everything
[09:47] <sport> somedrew can shh be between many comps or as a rule only 2?
[09:47] <somedrew> Kawika, I've used it in the past but not currently
[09:48] <somedrew> sport, it's a connection between 2, but you can always chain ssh connections
[09:48] <albertmk> buntunub, cool, but what is the advantage of that?
[09:48] <siddharta> hello everybody
[09:48] <somedrew> sport, example: I ssh from machine1 into machine2 and ssh into machine3 from machine2
[09:48] <buntunub> its FAST
[09:48] <you`s> pie kabare
[09:48] <buntunub> its good for thin clients like old machines
[09:49] <albertmk> buntunub, why dont you run gaim from your own laptop?
[09:49] <buntunub> and its good for IP masking
[09:49] <siddharta> i freshly installed ubuntu for a friend on his first computer, and i would need to make 'transparent for him' a rsync of his /home before he shuts down the computer
[09:49] <albertmk> siddharta, you are a bad friend :D
[09:50] <sport> somedrew i understand the protocal of shh now but what apps use this?
[09:50] <buntunub> ssh is used in a terminal
[09:50] <Flannel> sport: ssh is a method to login to a remote machine and get a terminal, you use apps through ssh.
[09:50] <you`s> hy
[09:50] <buntunub> your already setup with it in a base ubuntu install
[09:50] <siddharta> so i would need to lauch a shell script executing rsync in a appropriate runlevel (like S99backup-home.sh)
[09:50] <Ind[y] > My VIM is not compiled with +syntax (the default installation of VIM). How can I recompile it with +syntax (for syntax highlighting)?
[09:51] <Flannel> Ind[y] : install vim-full if you haven't already
[09:51] <siddharta> but i don't know anymore in which run level to launch it
[09:51] <Ademan> anyone here use apache ant?
[09:51] <albertmk> it is really cool to configure your computer to shut down in X minutes.
[09:51] <somedrew> sport: ssh is a "secure shell" it basically gives you a shell on the other computer. Any terminal apps installed on the machine you are connected to can be used, but you can also use any graphical apps by forwarding X through ssh
[09:51] <Ind[y] > Flannel: oh, ok. thanks :)
[09:51] <Salmon_Maki> I'm gonna download VMWare but it has 3 different downloadable versions. There a "Binary (.tar.gz)" a "Binary (.rpm)" and a "Binary (.zip)" -- which would be better for me to download since I use Ubuntu and am a Newbie?
[09:51] <albertmk> of course, using the ssh
[09:52] <somedrew> sport, It's best to think of ssh as a way to accessing other computers and any applications they have installed
[09:52] <buntunub> i use it for running apps i cant run on thin clients at work and home
[09:52] <albertmk> somedrew, how can I prevent my computer from brute force attack through ssh?
[09:53] <Enselic> albertmk: disallow password authentication
[09:53] <somedrew> albertmk, use a key-pair maybe?
[09:53] <sport> somedrew: but could you "see" them graphically
[09:53] <NETWizz> anyone here do seamless rd
[09:53] <NETWizz> rdp
[09:53] <somedrew> sport, yup
[09:53] <NETWizz> I want to do it seamlessly
[09:53] <siddharta> does anyone have an idea
[09:53] <albertmk> Enselic, very wise.
[09:53] <NETWizz> How do I do that
[09:53] <NETWizz> I installed the seamless rdp thing
[09:53] <buntunub> theres a great wiki on ssh and vnc on the buntu docs
[09:53] <NETWizz> but it doesn't seem to work
[09:53] <sport> somedrew: Waa thats crazy
[09:53] <MikeRotch> hey everyone
[09:54] <selig5> hey
[09:54] <Enselic> albertmk: I'm not sure if you were sarcasitc, but I were serious, only allow public key authentication
[09:54] <somedrew> albertmk, I only use ssh as a client myself so I'm not too sure, but using a key-based approach would help
[09:54] <Enselic> albertmk: and make yourself a keypair to login with
[09:54] <sport> somedrew: id like to try that out but only have one linux box... one that goes online
[09:54] <buntunub> you can limit the logins and specify an IP range too
[09:54] <FeistyNux> hi all :)
[09:54] <albertmk> Enselic, I though you were beeing sarcasitc... sorry. I though you meant to make it public acess, in order to anyone access it...  my english is not good.
[09:55] <buntunub> just steer clear of doing ssh_config changes and you should be good
[09:55] <somedrew> albertmk, Enselic knows better than me
[09:55] <albertmk> :-)
[09:55] <jhattu> I am having a small problem with OOo in ubuntu. However, OOo works perfectly in Ubuntu in recovery mode. How could I repair the installation so that OOo would work in normal mode too?
[09:55] <albertmk> Enselic, can you explain more about it? I am really interested on it.
[09:56] <buntunub> reinstall OOo
[09:56] <buntunub> via synaptic
[09:56] <ziroday> jhattu: reinstall
[09:56] <jhattu> buntunub: I have done it several times...
[09:56] <buntunub> thats kinda weird
[09:56] <NETWizz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vzTXS2KsA
[09:56] <jhattu> and I _should_ have all necessary packages installed...
[09:56] <NETWizz> How do I do seamless rdp
[09:56] <ziroday> jhattu: did you also remove config files?
[09:56] <noone64_> 3C
[09:56] <NETWizz> This sucks
[09:56] <Enselic> albertmk: I'm not sure where to start, what do you know about public key authentication?
[09:56] <noone64_> 5C
[09:56] <NETWizz> I cannot seem to manage it
[09:56] <NETWizz> Why not
[09:57] <somedrew> sport, you could try it out with a friends computer...or if you have a school/work account that allows SSH...connect to your account from there. I personally use SSH mostly to connect to my school network
[09:57] <buntunub> well the deps should be taken care of with a reinstall
[09:57] <jhattu> ziroday: yes, between installations I deleted the hidden .openoffice2 -folder from my home folder
[09:57] <Enselic> albertmk: do you have a ssh server running?
[09:57] <albertmk> Enselic, hmmmm nothing? :-)
[09:57] <albertmk> Enselic, no
[09:57] <Enselic> albertmk: but you would like to set one up?
[09:57] <albertmk> no
[09:57] <Enselic> albertmk: umm, so what is the question again?
[09:57] <ziroday> jhattu: also try removing and installing instead of reinstalling
[09:57] <albertmk> I just have a computer and a laptop
[09:57] <buntunub> try a sudo apt-get remove openoffice then sudo apt-get install
[09:57] <albertmk> I access it with my laptop
[09:57] <Flannel> albertmk: another option is to use something like DenyHosts, that blocks people who fail X times.  Also, don't enable your root account, and use strong passwords
[09:58] <Enselic> albertmk: right, and you would like to log in securely onto your desktop from your laptop?
[09:58] <jhattu> ziroday: yes, I did that too. And I also tried to install the deb package downloaded from openoffice.org but it never worked :(
[09:58] <albertmk> Flaneel and Enselic: this "fail X times" is really interesting.
[09:58] <albertmk> Enselic, yes. I already have a good and strong password, but I want more security.
[09:58] <jhattu> buntunub: ok, I'll try that once more
[09:58] <ziroday> jhattu: thats really odd, whats the specific issue with OOO and have you ever installed any plugins regarding OOO
[09:58] <Flannel> albertmk: http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/  it's in universe
[09:59] <sport> somedrew: so (dumb question alert) shh works outside of linux?
[09:59] <ziroday> jhattu: also you could try #openoffice.org
[09:59] <Enselic> albertmk: what do you use to login remotely at the moment?
[09:59] <somedrew> sport, yup!
[09:59] <Flannel> sport: putty is a popular windows SSH client
[09:59] <jhattu> ziroday: I did, they were very helpful but it did not help yet. only after that discussion I found out that OOo works perfectly in recovery mode
[09:59] <sport> somedrew: how would you find the "root" of a windows comp?
[10:00] <albertmk> Enselic, I run emac for editing .cpp and .h files.
[10:00] <buntunub> yea sounds like the package your using is seriously conflicting with your setups somehow
[10:00] <ziroday> jhattu: whats the actual issue?
[10:00] <jhattu> ziroday: the problem sounds minor: I am missing at least one function of OOo Calc: MROUND, and I really need it...
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> sport: %WINDRIVE% I think
[10:00] <albertmk> Enselic, I mean, I intend to run that thing...
[10:00] <somedrew> if you have access, you can do some searching...usually the root directory of a drive though: c:, d:, z:, etc...unless they restrict access
[10:00] <Enselic> albertmk: ok    can you log in onto your desktop from your laptop currently?
[10:01] <magnetron> sport: the client runs in windows, but you connect to a unix server and will  see the root of the server
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: hmm that is really odd, maybe it is not included in a recent version of OOO but it is in recovery mode version
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: just a shot in the dark
[10:01] <jhattu> ziroday, no, it works very well from live cd too
[10:01] <MajorPayne> NFS works a lot better after you install portmap.
[10:01] <albertmk> I intend to. I want to work in my desktop remotely with my laptop - editing simple .cpp and .h files.
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: you use special repos for OOO?
[10:01] <ziroday> jhattu: or a repo that has OOO?
[10:01] <buntunub> lol
[10:01] <jhattu> ziroday, no, just the ones installed with synaptic
[10:02] <Enselic> albertmk: sorry, I have to go, this seems to explain nicely how to do: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[10:02] <metbsd> hate to say this, but office 2007 is alot better than OOO
[10:02] <buntunub> so you cant launch OOo at all or just cant get one of the functions to work
[10:02] <sauvin> In what way?
[10:02] <albertmk> Enselic, see you! Thank you!  :-)
[10:02] <jhattu> being a linux newbie it might be that some time ago I have messed around with something, if I just knew with what :)
[10:02] <magnetron> if you are setting up a SSH server, install the fail2ban package too
[10:02] <osfameron> metbsd: I think you may be right, OOo is hateful in many ways
[10:02] <jayde_drag0n> anyone who can help... i cannot get my torrents to download more than a small percentage then they drop... my forwarding is set correctly and so is every optimization i can think of/find
[10:02] <jhattu> buntunub: OOo works very well, but this one function in calc is not existing. sounds weird, huh?
[10:03] <ziroday> jhattu: having a function missing after multiple reinstalls is very odd, i reccomend a full reinstall or try installing the packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <metbsd> OOO is pretty good for free. but office 2007 improved too much over 2003
[10:03] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you have a problem with the port forwarding
[10:03] <buntunub> for that give the OOo website forums a try
[10:03] <magnetron> metbsd: we don't care
[10:03] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: unless its broken.. no i don't
[10:03] <osfameron> true, you can't argue with OOo's price :-)
[10:03] <metbsd> office2007 vs office2003 is like windows xp vs windows98
[10:03] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: that was the FIRST thing i did.. i know how to configure my port forwarding
[10:03] <jhattu> ziroday: I have done that several times, and doesnt help. weird is that this function works when I am in recovery mode...
[10:04] <Catoptromancy_> OOo does everything i need for school
[10:04] <Poz> sup
[10:04] <jhattu> buntunub: I did (both forum and irc) but they couldnt help
[10:04] <ziroday> jhattu: no i mean linux reinstall
[10:04] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: the symptoms sounds exactly like it. what client do you use? on which port is it listening?
[10:04] <metbsd> magnetron, who are you? "we" means you and who?
[10:04] <jhattu> ziroday: dang.
[10:04] <Poz> whats the best music player for linux
[10:04] <metbsd> xmms
[10:04] <Poz> i meant to say dvd player
[10:04] <tarzeau> Poz: opencubicplayer
[10:04] <tarzeau> Poz: mplayer
[10:04] <ziroday> jhattu: youve tried the packeges in packages.ubuntu.com?
[10:04] <buntunub> theres lots
[10:05] <ziroday> Poz: amarok
[10:05] <Poz> i know
[10:05] <centaur5> for some reason my intel card no longer works properly and gives the error xlib: extension "glx" missing on 0:0 when I try to run glxgears. Any ideas?
[10:05] <metbsd> amarok is good
[10:05] <Poz> there are tons of them
[10:05] <buntunub> amarok is awesome but its kde based
[10:05] <magnetron> metbsd: this is the ubuntu support channel. other questions are offtopic, take them to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:05] <metbsd> there's alot, but there's no outstanding one
[10:05] <jhattu> ziroday: if I back up my whole home folder and reinstall ubuntu and then copy my saved home folder backup to the new home folder, should I have all my personal settings back again?
[10:05] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: Azureus .. and i've tried bittornado and default bittorrent.. and its currently set to 49155
[10:05] <buntunub> rythm is pretty good too
[10:05] <Poz> thats why im here i need to know whats the best for playing dvd,s music ect
[10:05] <jhattu> ziroday: do those packages.ubuntu.com differ from the ones I get with synaptic?
[10:05] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: and for each client i choes a different port and manually set it in my router
[10:05] <Poz> to many to choose :(
[10:05] <OMG> :o
[10:05] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: other than setting my self up in the ... whatsitcalled zone
[10:06] <ziroday> jhattu: no, but your synaptics ones may be faulty from your local server, this way its better than full reinstall
[10:06] <ziroday> jhattu: also yes
[10:06] <buntunub> the ubuntu default multimedia stuff is pretty decent with codecs installed
[10:06] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: and they are connected to plenty of seeds
[10:06] <sport> i was reading the putty site it saw its illegal in contries where encryption is outlawed... wheres that
[10:06] <Poz> which mulimeia program do you have
[10:06] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you could try to portscan yourself, and see if the ports are open
[10:06] <jhattu> ziroday: so should I download a deb package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/ ?
[10:06] <metbsd> there's putty tool that convert ssh public key to putty key format
[10:07] <kblin> hi
[10:07] <magnetron> jhattu: no, use synaptic
[10:07] <metbsd> you can use that
[10:07] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: okay i've never used that command in ubuntu.. what do i type?
[10:07] <Poz> sup kblin
[10:07] <ziroday> jhattu: yes
[10:07] <buntunub> putty is on the universe repo i think too
[10:07] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: install something like nmapfe
[10:07] <jhattu> magnetron & ziroday: a conflict between your hints?
[10:07] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: will i find that in add/remove or synaptics?
[10:08] <ziroday> magnetron: may be his local repo is faulty
[10:08] <metbsd> it's silly to nmap yourself
[10:08] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you will have to do it from a computer on the internet. if you give me the port number, i could help you
[10:08] <buntunub> oh well gnite all
[10:09] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: how do i give you my port number
[10:09] <Poz> any one use vlc player
[10:09] <NETWizz> how do I lookup a package I installed
[10:09] <NETWizz> via dpkg
[10:09] <ziroday> Poz: yes
[10:09] <metbsd> i use kmplayer
[10:09] <Poz> ziroday is it good for movies, dvds, and music ?
[10:09] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: or did you mean give me the port nuber i'm using and my ip address or something?.. i have to do it from a seperate computer?
[10:09] <ziroday> Poz: depends do you prefer winamp or itunes?
[10:09] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: tell me what ports you tried open, and i will do it for you
[10:09] <Poz> itunes
[10:10] <Poz> but usually i use windows media player
[10:10] <ziroday> Poz: its not good for orginazation but it can play everything
[10:10] <Poz> :)
[10:10] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: Azureus is currently trying to use 49155    but i will settle for any port that will work
[10:10] <ziroday> Poz: it basically uses files to organize your music
[10:10] <Poz> i think ill keep that one :)
[10:10] <metbsd> amorak is good, you should use it
[10:10] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: start azureus
[10:11] <Kawika> Poz: I agree with ziroday on VLC.  Plays everything I've thrown at it on my XP computer.
[10:11] <metbsd> ktorrent is good too
[10:11] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: it is already starrted and open and i have my options screen open
[10:11] <metbsd> kde is good, actually
[10:11] <ziroday> Poz: amarok for music democracy player for vids
[10:11] <Poz> i just install vlc
[10:11] <ziroday> Poz: its how i work
[10:11] <jhattu> ok, thanks everybody, I'll consider reinstalling whole ubuntu :-/
[10:11] <metbsd> jhattu, why
[10:11] <ziroday> jhattu: sorry i couldnt help you more
[10:11] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: ok, that port is open. but a lot of people have hade problems with azuerus
[10:12] <jhattu> ziroday: no, thank you!
[10:12] <sauvin> It took about as much time to install ubuntu as it did to chuck some meat loaf into the microwave to heat up.
[10:12] <ziroday> jhattu: :)
[10:12] <metbsd> im going to install ubuntu in vmware
[10:12] <metbsd> in windows
[10:12] <Kawika> metbsd: I did just the opposite the other day
[10:12] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: i pick up quick.. i've been a windows tech/sys admin for 10 years but i've only ben using linux for 3 days now.. i love it and i learn fast... but some things are frustrating when your used to knowing how to do it all  already.. and my torrents used to scream in
[10:12] <metalac> so i have weird issue with the wireless module it's present in /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl8187, but when i do modprobe rtl8187 it says module not found, what gives?
[10:12] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: 3 days ago that is
[10:12] <metbsd> i just can't refuse windows xp. i don't now why
[10:13] <Poz> linux is fun until you want to play games on it
[10:13] <Poz> then it sux
[10:13] <chowmeined> windows is fun until you want to be productive
[10:13] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: azuerus is a pain under linux try utorrent or deluge or ktorrent
[10:13] <Catoptromancy_> Poz, why is that?
[10:13] <BusMaster> i installed ubuntu am64 on my shiny new laptop. Then I did atp-get install kubuntu-desktop and now while booting it showns the kubuntu logo instead of Ubuntu logo. How do i get my original Ubuntu logo back?
[10:13] <metbsd> i think it has something to do with: 1. it's a laptop. 2. photoshop and illustrators, 3. bluetooth
[10:13] <chowmeined> ziroday: utorrent doesnt run under linux...
[10:13] <Catoptromancy_> Poz, Linux is my gaming OS
[10:13] <Poz> !!!
[10:13] <Catoptromancy_> heh
[10:13] <Poz> no way
[10:13] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: welcome to ubuntu! i have heard a lot of good things about deluge or transmission
[10:13] <magnetron> !deluge | jayde_drag0n
[10:13] <ziroday> chowmeined: works like a treat under wine, it might as well work under linux
[10:13] <Poz> catopt none of my gmes will run in linux
[10:13] <chowmeined> deluge is nice, i like it lots
[10:14] <Poz> and i heard you had to get cedega which you pay for
[10:14] <Catoptromancy_> Only reason I dual boot windows are for doom ports that force DirectX
[10:14] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: do they give me a lot of options or do they limit me like the stupid bittornado and bittorrent
[10:14] <chowmeined> yea but utorrent got bought by the inc
[10:14] <Catoptromancy_> Every other game works
[10:14] <Kawika> metbsd: I have a dedicated machine I run Xp on for PS and Illustrator.
[10:14] <magnetron> Poz: wine is better than cedega in many cases
[10:14] <ubotu> jayde_drag0n: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[10:14] <Poz> catop which games do you play on linux
[10:14] <Catoptromancy_> wine, dosbox, native binaries
[10:14] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: try ktorrent if you want lots of options?
[10:14] <jayde_drag0n> all right.. i'll try anything.. gimme 10 minues.. i'll uninstall azureus and install deluge
[10:14] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: medium
[10:14] <Poz> does wine have dx9 support ?
[10:15] <chowmeined> yup
[10:15] <magnetron> Poz: yes
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> native, openarena, quake3, wesnoth, americas army, warsow, pysol
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> heh
[10:15] <chowmeined> Poz: i play warcraft III under wine.. works great
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> wine, Fallout,...I dont have many games really
[10:15] <chowmeined> apparently source works under it too
[10:15] <Poz> warcraft 3 doesnt require alot
[10:15] <Catoptromancy_> but 95% of games work in wine
[10:15] <chowmeined> Catoptromancy_: i wouldnt go that far
[10:15] <Poz> i tried to play star wars empire at war
[10:16] <magnetron> Poz: appdb.winehq.org
[10:16] <metalac> so i have weird issue with the wireless module it's present in /lib/modules/2.6.22-8-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl8187, but when i do modprobe rtl8187 it says module not found, what gives?
[10:16] <chowmeined> Catoptromancy_: id say 95% of games dont work in wine
[10:16] <Catoptromancy_> heh
[10:16] <metbsd> you don't really want to play those games, you play those games on liux to prove that linux can run those games
[10:16] <jayde_drag0n> ziroday: well i'll settle for working.. but isnt ktorrent for kubuntu? or does it not matter.. and does ktorrent make people as happy as deluge does?
[10:16] <Catoptromancy_> actually you need to cfg quite a bit , and # is probably 80-80%
[10:16] <metbsd> you miss the whole point of gaming
[10:16] <metbsd> see?
[10:16] <chowmeined> huh?
[10:16] <NeoGeo64> fortunately the game i like is linux native
[10:16] <metbsd> config like there's no tommorow, and get a bit of game to work
[10:16] <chowmeined> no i installed warcraft 3
[10:16] <chowmeined> and it just works
[10:17] <Catoptromancy_> I havent bought a new game in a long time
[10:17] <chowmeined> so i go play dota and junk
[10:17] <Poz> warcraft 3 is old it will run on anythign almost
[10:17] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: still personal choice ktorrent has more options compared to deluge but is a bit more klunkier. ktorrent works under ubuntu fine as do nearly all kde apps
[10:17] <Catoptromancy_> but they all work
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> i do have some problems with my linux gaming
[10:17] <chowmeined> Poz: its still using direct X
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> sometimes sounds will cut out during the action
[10:17] <chowmeined> Poz: age has nothing to do with it
[10:17] <Poz> not 9
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> sometimes the direction keys will stick
[10:17] <NeoGeo64> or ill have to hit it twice to get it to respond
[10:17] <Poz> wc3 doesnt use the new direct x
[10:17] <magnetron> !offtopic | metbsd, chowmeined, Poz
[10:17] <ubotu> metbsd, chowmeined, Poz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:17] <chowmeined> Poz: i dont think you understand _why_ windows games dont work under linux
[10:17] <metbsd> if you have problems playing windows game on linux, who will you blame? the game itself? windows? wine? or linux?
[10:17] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron and ziroday: hang on.. i think mabye my thought about rebooting might have worked.... *holds breath*
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> Why would sounds cut out during the game?
[10:18] <sauvin> Because of the demands they make on the hardware.
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> its a 3d shooter called postal 2
[10:18] <MikeRotch> blame windows
[10:18] <chowmeined> metbsd: i blame the company who created the game
[10:18] <MikeRotch> for everything
[10:18] <chowmeined> and i dont purchase their products anymore
[10:18] <chowmeined> same with hardware
[10:18] <metbsd> hehehe
[10:18] <ziroday> !offtopic | MikeRotch chowmeined metbsd
[10:18] <ubotu> MikeRotch chowmeined metbsd: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <metbsd> just blame everything else but linux
[10:18] <chowmeined> if they dont provide linux drivers, i blame the company.. and i dont buy their products anymore
[10:18] <Poz> do any companies make thre games for inux and windows ?
[10:18] <magnetron> !offtopic > metbsd
[10:18] <chowmeined> fine
[10:18] <metbsd> ??
[10:19] <chowmeined> anybody need help? :)
[10:19] <metbsd> we are talking about ubuntu wine
[10:19] <magnetron> this is the SUPPORT channel
[10:19] <chowmeined>  metbsd just talk in the other channel
[10:19] <metbsd> anyone tried playing microsoft games in ubuntu?
[10:19] <ziroday> metbsd: we help people not discuss
[10:19] <MikeRotch> where is the b/s channel
[10:19] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: i'm starting to see more normal speeds for me
[10:19] <ziroday> metbsd: which games
[10:19] <metbsd> flight simulators
[10:19] <ziroday> metbsd: appdb.wine.com
[10:20] <ziroday> metbsd: specifically?
[10:20] <jsestri2> flight sims suck a 'd'
[10:20] <jayde_drag0n> spoke too soon.. got up past 40 and died
[10:20] <magnetron> !offtopic > MikeRotch   (read private message from ubotu)
[10:20] <chowmeined> that nick is offensive
[10:20] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: lol
[10:20] <MikeRotch> thx
[10:20] <metbsd> chowmeined, your nick is offensive
[10:20] <jsestri2> everyone knows i'm right
[10:21] <LuffarN^> #debian-se
[10:21] <chowmeined> magnetron: i already went in the other channel...
[10:21] <jayde_drag0n> *le sigh*
[10:21] <magnetron> chowmeined: keep the offtopic talk in that channel then
[10:21] <chowmeined> i am
[10:21] <jayde_drag0n> onto deluge.. i'll be back in 10
[10:21] <NeoGeo64> wine is stupid.
[10:21] <magnetron> NeoGeo64: that is not a support question
[10:21] <ziroday> NeoGeo64: go to offtopic please
[10:22] <Salmon_Maki> My programs like Pidgin and X-Chat used to show up in my Panel Bar on the bottom-right as little icons, but they don't show up there anymore, anyone know what happened or how I can turn them back on? :(
[10:22] <chowmeined> Salmon_Maki: find them in the menu, right click.. and select add to panel
[10:22] <Ominous> hey, how do you mount a usb key drive in terminal as i have managed to remove the gui loading somehow so only have terminal login etc and i need to back up some files before a reinstall
[10:22] <Salmon_Maki> chowmeined: i mean they used to show up only when they were open
[10:23] <alecwh> !fonts
[10:23] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:23] <magnetron> Salmon_Maki: right click the panel and add the notification area again
[10:24] <Salmon_Maki> magnetron: whoops didnt know i got rid of that :) thanks
[10:24] <magnetron> you're welcome, Salmon_Maki
[10:26] <valchers> hello
[10:26] <valchers> there is somebody
[10:26] <valchers> I have a problem with instal
[10:26] <magnetron> we are here, valchers
[10:26] <thijs> oke
[10:26] <thijs> wat is it
[10:26] <thijs> server or desktop
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> is it possible for java applications to run?
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> like mpowerplayer
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> !java
[10:27] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:27] <thijs> yes
[10:27] <thijs> oke :D
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> :D
[10:27] <Cyber_Stalker> will be right back on ubuntu
[10:27] <valchers> why a cant instal ubuntu,I have this - .MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC"....
[10:27] <Ademan> anyone here use apache ant?
[10:28] <lgc> Hi! What's the file dpkg has its list of installed packages?
[10:28] <RahuL^_> hjghgh
[10:28] <RahuL^_> bvbvb
[10:28] <RahuL^_> bnbn
[10:28] <magnetron> hi RahuL^_
[10:29] <Kawika> yellow_chicken: Aloha
[10:29] <Poz> any one use vmware ?
[10:30] <blowfish> yes
[10:30] <TiMiDo> Kawika, where you fromm
[10:30] <blowfish> dutch
[10:30] <Kawika> TiMiDo: Big Island
[10:30] <TiMiDo> hawaii?
[10:30] <blowfish> :D
[10:30] <Kawika> TiMiDo: yes
[10:30] <blowfish> cool
[10:30] <lgc> Hi! What's the file dpkg has its list of installed packages?
[10:30] <blowfish> apt-get list ?
[10:30] <TiMiDo> Kawika, is Israel Iz KAMAKAWIWO:ole dead/
[10:31] <Kawika> TiMiDo: yes, unfortunately.
[10:31] <TiMiDo> whe did he die?
[10:31] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: all right lets see how this goes.. i installed ktorrent since add/remove and synaptiocs couldn't find deluge.... seems to have started really well
[10:31] <lgc> Hi! I mean: What's the name of the file dpkg has its list of installed packages?
[10:31] <Ominous> hey, how do you mount a usb key drive in terminal as i have managed to remove the gui loading somehow so only have terminal login etc and i need to back up some files before a reinstall
[10:32] <yellow_chicken> Kawika: aloha
[10:32] <yellow_chicken> Poz: i do
[10:32] <Cyber_Stalker> !java
[10:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:32] <TiMiDo> he was a good singer.
[10:32] <Kawika> TiMiDo: June 97
[10:32] <TiMiDo> Kawika, why did he die?
[10:32] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: btw do you have any idea where to find a launcher file so that i can edid some thing in properties without having to add it to my dock?
[10:32] <TiMiDo> i mean how come. was he sick?
[10:32] <Kawika> TiMiDo: respiratory failure... he was a big boy
[10:32] <lgc> Ominous, man pmount
[10:33] <TiMiDo> yeah i know
[10:33] <magnetron> !deluge > jayde_drag0n  (read private message for instructions for deluge)
[10:33] <TiMiDo> i just saw a video from him
[10:33] <yellow_chicken> Kawika: it's so hot
[10:33] <Kawika> Poz, I just installed vmware and WinXp on Edubuntu
[10:33] <Cyber_Stalker> !multiverse
[10:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:33] <fdaf> i'm about to install kubuntu in vmware/windows
[10:33] <Poz> what do you run in vmware kawika
[10:33] <Cyber_Stalker> grrr
[10:33] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: you can easily create a launcher by right clicking on the desktop
[10:33] <Kawika> Poz: I needed to run IE6 and test a web page
[10:34] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: ktorrent is screaming.. i'm not seeing windows speeds yet.. but these are speeds i can live with
[10:34] <Poz> i hve a visual studio disk can i intall that or run it through vmware
[10:34] <Kawika> Poz: you can try installing it.  Speed will be the only factor
[10:34] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: the speed will vary with the quality of the seeders, not the OS
[10:34] <Poz> :( so it will be slow
[10:34] <cyberphaz> whats the easiest way to share something between windows in vmware and my ubuntu? samba?
[10:35] <Kawika> yellow_chicken: it is hot.  we have a storm passing the island tonight.. so maybe rain
[10:35] <magnetron> Kawika: have you tried ies4linux?
[10:35] <fdaf> samba is a joke
[10:35] <TiMiDo> Kawika, is hawaii nice'?
[10:35] <fdaf> i never get samba to work properly
[10:35] <yellow_chicken> Kawika: yes, that's what i heard on the NEWS
[10:35] <magnetron> !samba | fdaf
[10:35] <ubotu> fdaf: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:35] <Frogzoo> cyberphaz: samba
[10:35] <cyberphaz> ok
[10:35] <Kawika> magnetron: I did try ies4linux.  There's a realtor site for a client that HAS to have the real IE.
[10:35] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: well i know that but reliably for the past year on every tvshow i've downloaded except maby 2.. and thats not an exageration i've gotten my shows in about 15 minutes... i only let one run at a time and i usually see over 100.. usually at 200
[10:35] <Fer_re> hi all!
[10:36] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: there itr goes!!!! one at 90 one at 128
[10:36] <sauvin> I tend to eschew any site that *requires* IE.
[10:36] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: rockin
[10:36] <magnetron> congrats, jayde_drag0n
[10:36] <Kawika> TiMiDo: it is nice here.  Getting a bit more crowded, but it's survivable :-)
[10:36] <warty> hello
[10:36] <chowmeined> sites still require IE?
[10:36] <chowmeined> thats insane
[10:36] <Fer_re> bye
[10:36] <Kawika> sauvin: I do as well.  The front end of the site works, but the realtor backend will only work on IE
[10:37] <chowmeined> theres only 1000 people :(
[10:37] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: did you see my other question?
[10:37] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: no
[10:37] <Cyber_Stalker> so multiverse is already enabled on fiesty?
[10:37] <fdaf> how can there be so many pppl
[10:37] <fdaf> crazy
[10:37] <fdaf> how many ppl see my typing lol
[10:37] <sauvin> Cyber_Stalker, all the repos were enabled by default on my feisty immediately after install.
[10:38] <Salmon_Maki> 1010 fdaf, so make sure whatever you say is interesting. :P
[10:38] <fdaf> ahahaha
[10:38] <magnetron> fdaf: we all do, keep your questions on one line please
[10:38] <Cyber_Stalker> yes it seems to be the same with me
[10:38] <fdaf> u kicw
[10:38] <fdaf> i love my audience
[10:38] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: i added kdocker because i like things to goto the taskbar.. but i can only see the properties if i add them to the panel from the menu... i'd like to edit their properties natively so that i can clear the panel and just launch from the menu.... but i don't know where the file (excuse me windows term) exe is located in the system so i can edit its properties
[10:38] <Cyber_Stalker> and supposedly "free java" should be installed...
[10:38] <Poz> 1 more ? is file zilla worth using or a waste of time ?
[10:38] <fdaf> will you support and help me if i install kubuntu in vmware with windows xp as host?
[10:39] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: i have never used kdocker
[10:39] <olopa> #debian-se
[10:39] <magnetron> fdaf: we are all volunteers
[10:39] <desper> any one can help me regarding evolution problem?
[10:39] <magnetron> !ask | desper
[10:39] <ubotu> desper: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:39] <fdaf> nothing better to do rather
[10:40] <fdaf> just kidding
[10:40] <magnetron> !enter | fdaf
[10:40] <ubotu> fdaf: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:40] <fotoflo> arg - i just got my windows laptop back from HP's Goldstar service --- they reinstalled all their bloatware!
[10:40] <fdaf> ok.
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: you don't have to to answer my question.. but all i have to do is open properties... and where it says command.. enter kdocker in front of it... but i can only see properties if i put them in the panel.. and i don't want a cluttered bar... so oo... how do i find the place where the file is launching from so i can edit the properties?
[10:40] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: search provided me with nothing
[10:41] <fotoflo> ive spent the last hour uninstalling programs one by one
[10:41] <fdaf> hehe fotoflo
[10:41] <desper> In evolution when iam downloading attachment and want to save it show's the ASCII character's in the file name ??
[10:41] <fdaf> fotoflo, what are you uninstalling?
[10:41] <Kawika> fotoflo: should have gone with the silver service.  They wouldn't have bothered...hehe
[10:41] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: like where in my computer is rythmbox located?
[10:41] <fotoflo> at least they should allow you to queue up programs for removal
[10:42] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: i don't really understand your question, but you can easily create a launcher in gnome by righclicking the desktop and choose new starter. most apps are located in /bin or /usr/bin
[10:42] <fdaf> is it possible to install debian etch first, then change repos to ubuntu, and update and distupgrade to install ubuntu?
[10:42] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: think of windows for a second... cuz i don't know how else to explain it... things are linstalled to c:program files/foldername/file.exe
[10:42] <fotoflo> right now im uninstalling 20 odd "games", all between 9 and 300MB - all with terrible graphics and boring game play\
[10:43] <magnetron> fdaf: if it is, don't expect anyone here to give support for your system
[10:43] <desper> In evolution when iam downloading attachment and want to save, it show's the ASCII/special character's in the file name ?? ie. my file.odt its came my%file.odt
[10:43] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: in ubuntu are they filesystem/bin/foldername/program?? or what?
[10:43] <fotoflo> there was a 300 MB driving game with one car (unless you bought ti) and one track and the car went 0 to 60 in like 10.4 seconds
[10:43] <Cyber_Stalker> has any one got mpowerplayer working on java ?
[10:43] <eps> fdaf, that really wouldn't be a good idea :P
[10:43] <fdaf> magnetron, my question is, is it?
[10:43] <fotoflo> Office 2003 Trial edition
[10:43] <eps> fdaf, yes it is possible; but you wouldn't get a working system out of it ^_^
[10:43] <ziroday> fdaf: im interested :0
[10:43] <fotoflo> MS works
[10:44] <dbft> dbft@jonny-desk:~/virtual-drives/1$ sh setup.sh
[10:44] <dbft> Loki Update Tool not found, running installation program
[10:44] <dbft> dbft@jonny-desk:~/virtual-drives/1$ sudo sh setup.sh
[10:44] <dbft> sh: Can't open setup.sh
[10:44] <dbft> why does that happen?
[10:44] <fotoflo> norton internet theft
[10:44] <fotoflo> err i mean securty
[10:44] <magnetron> jayde_drag0n: look in /usr/bin
[10:44] <desper> In evolution when iam downloading attachment and want to save, it show's the ASCII/special character's in the file name ?? ie. my file.odt its came my%file.odt
[10:44] <ziroday> dbft: do sudo ./setup.sh
[10:44] <Kawika> fotoflo: theft of all your processing power
[10:44] <dbft> command not found
[10:44] <ziroday> desper: yes as this is how it is relayed over the internet
[10:44] <ziroday> dbft: you must make setup.sh executable
[10:45] <fdaf> install debian etch first, then change repos to ubuntu, and update and distupgrade to install ubuntu <-- i think it will work
[10:45] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: THATS what i needed!!! thank you!!!
[10:45] <fdaf> why not everyone try it in vmware
[10:45] <fotoflo> "polar bowler"
[10:45] <fdaf> i want to see % of success
[10:45] <ziroday> fdaf: i dont have that much spare time
[10:45] <desper> ziroday: sorry i did't understand what u want to ask?
[10:45] <fotoflo> qucken and microsoft money
[10:45] <cyberphaz> do i need to install samba even if i only want to contact my windows from my ubuntu? wouldnt a client be enough?
[10:46] <Enselic> !touchpa
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Enselic> !touchpad
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <fdaf> ziroday, but you have spare time to irc?
[10:46] <degreseven> my boot partition is too small & i am unable to upgrade kernel. can i use gparted to increase the size of my boot partition & decrease the size of my root partition without destroying my data?
[10:46] <Cyber_Stalker> cyberphaz, do you just want to access a ntfs partion?
[10:46] <Cyber_Stalker> partition**
[10:46] <ziroday> desper: i was saying the % is there because that is how it looks to the computers over the internet
[10:46] <eps> fdaf, the low level things like kernel and methods debian uses to update scripts would break between the two distros.  I think if you put enought effort into it it would work but the resulting system would be unstable and broken :/ ...why are you interested in trying it?
[10:46] <Enselic> I have a touchpad that is not working, should lspci give me one if I want to have a chance of getting it to work?
[10:46] <Cyber_Stalker> as in access your windows drive from your ubuntu install...?
[10:46] <ziroday> fdaf: no im meant to be listening to the teacher and working :)
[10:46] <cyberphaz> cyber_stalker yes i want to be able to write data to a windows drive from my ubuntu...one way only
[10:46] <cyberphaz> via windows shares...
[10:47] <Cyber_Stalker> is the drive local?
[10:47] <fdaf> soon i'll be running kubuntu in vmware, hahaha
[10:47] <cyberphaz> vmware cyber_stalker
[10:47] <haseeb> anyone successfully installed ubuntu 7.04 on Microsoft Virtual PC 2007? I seeing stops during setup (specially during io) - where setup stops making progress...
[10:47] <Cyber_Stalker> or on another machine one the network
[10:47] <magnetron> fdaf: we are volunteers, but we will not do everything you ask us too. just install ubuntu and we will be interested in helping you
[10:47] <fdaf> what if i install kubuntu? no help for me?
[10:47] <cyberphaz> i can access my local ntfs partitions already, the windows box runs in vmware
[10:47] <eps> none
[10:47] <eps> we have kde
[10:47] <eps> hate* :P
[10:47] <fdaf> do i get help if i install xbuntu?
[10:47] <eps> yes
[10:47] <magnetron> haseeb: for msvpc, you need the alternate ubuntu install cd i think
[10:47] <ziroday> fdaf: yes at #kubuntu
[10:47] <Cyber_Stalker> heh, best bet would be setting up samba... the way i used to do it before i dual booted was setting up and ftp server on my ubuntu :D lol used to ftp files across
[10:47] <eps> because it's logo is cute
[10:48] <cyberphaz> lol
[10:48] <cyberphaz> that would work
[10:48] <cyberphaz> and be a lot easier i guess
[10:48] <fdaf> really? you have kde? what did kde do to you?
[10:48] <Cyber_Stalker> yea lol thats why i did it :D
[10:48] <fdaf> hate
[10:48] <fdaf> i mean
[10:48] <magnetron> fotoflo, haiku OS ftw
[10:48] <cyberphaz> thanks for the idea
[10:48] <Scottrix> hey everyone
[10:48] <Cyber_Stalker> just check synaptic for ftp :D and install one and then u do like minimal config since you will be the only one accessing it
[10:48] <eps> I used to use kde 'back in the day' but gnome got good and I've been using that.  I'll switch over to kde when 4 preview comes out in a few weeks
[10:48] <haseeb> magnetron : which one is that? I downloaded ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso ...?
[10:48] <cyberphaz> yep thanks again
[10:49] <magnetron> !alternate | haseeb
[10:49] <ubotu> haseeb: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:49] <riaal> I have VNC set up to my server but its kind of slow, can I just remote the terminal somehow? SSH? Telnet?
[10:49] <fdaf> gnome got good really? gnome is ugly though
[10:49] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, perhaps you can help me...
[10:49] <ziroday> riaal: yes
[10:49] <haseeb> !Minimal
[10:49] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:49] <fdaf> for me, gnome is crash-prone
[10:49] <desper> ziroday: Ok i got but is there any way or any patch for evolution to decode that ??
[10:49] <haseeb> !Alternate
[10:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:49] <ziroday> desper: no that i am aware of
[10:50] <riaal> ziroday, yes what and is it hard?
[10:50] <ziroday> riaal: no not really
[10:50] <valchers> am.. then i want install ubuntu 7.04 64 but then i have this - Kernel direct mapping tables up to 100000000@8000-d000
[10:50] <ziroday> !ssh | riaal
[10:50] <ubotu> riaal: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:50] <Scottrix> can anyone here possible help me with playing a DVD ISO under ubuntu?
[10:50] <desper> ziroday: should i download the source and than try to edit that ??
[10:50] <fdaf> vmware is so huge, 300mb almost like an os
[10:50] <valchers> how can i install
[10:50] <valchers> ?
[10:50] <magnetron> !dvd | Scottrix
[10:50] <ubotu> Scottrix: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:50] <ziroday> desper: strongly not recommended
[10:50] <riaal> ziroday, cheers
[10:50] <magnetron> !install | valchers
[10:50] <ubotu> valchers: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:51] <fdaf> i have ubuntu 7.04 dvd :)
[10:51] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, what you need help with ?
[10:51] <desper> ziroday: you know some one who can help me out ?
[10:51] <Scottrix> thanks magnetron and ubotu
[10:51] <ziroday> desper: #evolution
[10:51] <ziroday> ubotu is a bot Scottrix
[10:51] <Cyber_Stalker> :D
[10:51] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, I need to know where does dpkg keeps the list of installed packages so I can manually pick out a bogus entry.
[10:51] <fdaf> hhahaha
[10:52] <fdaf> hey what's your vmware version in ubuntu?
[10:52] <desper> ziroday: there is now one in that room just me :)
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> !dpkg
[10:52] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm
[10:52] <fdaf> mine is vmware 6
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> sec
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> im new to ubuntu :D
[10:52] <ziroday> desper: lemme go find there irc channel gimme a min
[10:52] <fdaf> what's your vmware version?
[10:52] <jayde_drag0n> magnetron: perfect!!!!
[10:52] <Newbie_Dude> If you guys wanna chat try #ubuntu-offtopic as not to interfere with those that have questions. :)
[10:52] <desper> ziroday okz thx
[10:53] <fdaf> there's nobody needs help anyway
[10:53] <ziroday> desper: sorry its #evolution on gimp net not freenode
[10:53] <fdaf> why you want this channel to be muted?
[10:53] <magnetron> !offtopic | fdaf
[10:53] <ubotu> fdaf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:53] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=498879&highlight=dpkg%2Bpackage+lists
[10:53] <fdaf> but we need more ppl talking, off or on topic
[10:53] <Cyber_Stalker> that might help you but im not too sure
[10:53] <fdaf> it's better than a dead channel
[10:53] <ziroday> fdaf: please go to offtopic
[10:54] <fdaf> ppl will start leaving if nobody ask for help, and nobody talks
[10:54] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, let me check, thanks.
[10:54] <magnetron> fdaf: stop it
[10:54] <ziroday> fdaf: this is ONLY a SUPPORT channel
[10:54] <fdaf> we've been helping and helping whole week, can we have two days off?
[10:54] <ziroday> fdaf: yes on #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <magnetron> fdaf, yes, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <fdaf> just my 2 cents to this channel
[10:54] <desper> ziroday: im going there to find out
[10:54] <desper> any ways thanks alot :)
[10:55] <ziroday> desper: no prob sorry i couldnt help you anymore  :)
[10:55] <fdaf> ithink vmware tools come for ubuntu?
[10:55] <sport> anyone know if the tcp/udp connection aka the transport layer comes after or before the application protocols ??
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc,  what is your problem more specifically is apt-get broken because of this bogus package? etc...?
[10:56] <magnetron> sport: the application layer is the top layer
[10:56] <jayde_drag0n> thank you thank you thanl you to everyone who helped me... ktorrent is working beautifully... and now my audtodocker is working exactly how i want it!!!
[10:56] <ziroday> jayde_drag0n: glad you like ktorrent
[10:57] <MajorPayne> Goodnight everyone.
[10:57] <jayde_drag0n> god i love this chat room.. you people have been incredibly helpful and except for one person... crazily nice and responsive
[10:57] <sport> magnetron: are the layers in order of time tho or in order of .... well time makes the most sense but something else
[10:57] <fdaf> yep that's what we are, jayde_drag0n please come again with more questins
[10:57] <sport> bye major thx for the help
[10:58] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, yep. I just finished upgrading to Edgy and aptitude reports an error upgrading k3b.
[10:58] <sauvin> I know this place really got my ubuntu install rocking. I, too, am grateful, but now it's bedtime. Nighters!
[10:58] <jayde_drag0n> fdaf: oh inevitably i will... just be glad i learn super fast
[10:58] <fdaf> me too! i want to thank everyone who has helped me!
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> 1 second :D
[10:58] <fdaf> my thank goes to magnetron's on-topic help line
[10:58] <ziroday> fdaf: please
[10:59] <magnetron> sport: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model   the order of the layer has nothing to do with chronology
[10:59] <fdaf> greatest channel i ever joined!
[10:59] <PriceChild> Ok fdaf. Please cease the offtopic chatter. No more.
[10:59] <fdaf> it just makes me more and more likes ubuntu
[10:59] <fdaf> ??
[10:59] <toed> is there a way to search for a string inside a number of files with nautilus?
[10:59] <redadvisorry> hello
[10:59] <ziroday> PriceChild: thank you
[10:59] <PriceChild> fdaf, we appreciate your appreciation, but lets leave it at that please :)
[10:59] <fdaf> ok!
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, is it a libc6 error?
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> www.rafb.net/paste
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> paste the error
[11:00] <lgc> fdaf, but NEVER mention four-letter words here!
[11:00] <fdaf> thanks for appreciation for my appreciation before. i appreciate it, PriceChild
[11:00] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, no, it's a dpkg error.
[11:01] <Cyber_Stalker> still paste the error and i might be able to help a little more
[11:01] <kraut> moin
[11:01] <jayde_drag0n> one random off topic(sorta)   NEAT i just found out you can set the bars at the top and bottom to hide with the click of an arrow!!!.. i feel like a kid
[11:02] <jayde_drag0n> thanks.. gnite!!!
[11:02] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, it says: broken pipe. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1).
[11:05] <Cyber_Stalker> lgc, i cant find an error that seems to be specific to your problem. but i can offer you this link http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=24059578
[11:05] <Cyber_Stalker> and hopefully you will be able to resolve the issue
[11:05] <HEP85> how can I select a folder in Konqueror?
[11:05] <Gaming1> Is there a way to know what codecs or plugins are installed for mplayer?
[11:05] <desper> Some one know's about Evolution attachment Problems
[11:06] <desper> ?
[11:06] <lgc> Cyber_Stalker, I'm afraid I'll have to leave it for a better time. It's 4 A.M. here and I need to be back up at 6 for a long trip. Sorry I have to dash out like this. I appreciate your help and time. Farewell now...till next time.
[11:06] <ziroday> desper: no luck in #evolution ?
[11:06] <jafnoob> How do I change ubuntu logo at the program menu?
[11:06] <desper> ziroday: yes i think all are sleeping there
[11:06] <ziroday> desper: sorry, is a occasional % that bad?
[11:07] <Cyber_Stalker> could some one help me quickly...
[11:07] <Cyber_Stalker> cyber@cyber:~/Desktop$ java index.jnlp
[11:07] <Cyber_Stalker> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: index/jnlp
[11:07] <desper> yes
[11:08] <ziroday> jafnoob: go to /home/<user name>/.icons/<current icon set> and put in a file named distributor with the logo you wnat
[11:08] <ziroday> jafnoob: i thinki
[11:08] <Gaming1> Guys, Is there a way to know what codecs and plugins have been installed in Ubunt?
[11:09] <NETWizz> Want to see a screenshot
[11:09] <NETWizz> of Linux
[11:10] <Cyber_Stalker> NETWizz, you want to see a screen shot of some ones linux?
[11:10] <NETWizz> yeah
[11:10] <jafnoob> ziroday, I did change all start-here and distributor-logo icon images searching for png or svg in those dirs and no ubuntu logo pops up but it's still in the menu
[11:10] <Cyber_Stalker> NETWizz, give me a second
[11:11] <NETWizz> http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotlc3.png
[11:12] <jafnoob> ziroday, ok fixed it, had to remove the cache file :)
[11:12] <NETWizz> Did anyone view my file
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> NETWizz, cyber@cyber:~/Desktop$ java index.jnlp
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: index/jnlp
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> oops
[11:12] <alsuren> how can I get debugging symbols for amarok? It's gone into an infinite loop, and I want to know why
[11:12] <Cyber_Stalker> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/speedhead/LinuxDesktop.png
[11:12] <magnetron> yes, it was nice. show it to the people in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:13] <palmira> Hi everyone... do you have an idea why I cannot connect to UnderNet?
[11:13] <NETWizz> What is up with the green look
[11:13] <NETWizz> I would say bad monitor, but then the screenshot would look correct to me
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> lets go to #off-topic
[11:14] <MikeRotch> das cool
[11:15] <riaal> I have 2 folders like /sda1/download and /sdb1/music that I want to share over the network whit NFS, The ting is I want them to be shared in the sama folder so I just have to mount ones on the remote machine, is this possible?
[11:16] <SoulPropagation> make a symlink for one in the other =)
[11:16] <riaal> how does symlink work?
[11:16] <gD|Lukemob> Does anyone have a knowledges with ISPConfig?
[11:16] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: What's your question
[11:16] <alsuren>  <alsuren> how can I get debugging symbols for amarok? It's gone into an infinite loop, and I want to know why
[11:16] <gD|Lukemob> Good morning, by the way. :-)
[11:17] <SoulPropagation> riaal: you can find out information in the help file, run man ln in a terminal.
[11:17] <yogurtron> I'm trying to connect to the WiTilt v2.5 board for acceleration data.  I've gotten the hcitool to see my device and connect to it, however I am having trouble actually DOING anything with it.  I've been looking around and have yet to find out where the "sudo hidd --connect aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff" actually connects to, so I can tell the gtkterm program to read it.
[11:17] <cyberphaz> hmm odd i can access my other windows pc using smbfs but not my vmware windows share
[11:17] <yogurtron> So suffice it to say, how do I get a serial text interface to a bluetooth device?
[11:17] <cyberphaz> it sees the vmware windows pc as shared, but when i try access it it says failed
[11:18] <cyberphaz> anyone got a clue?
[11:18] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: amarok -d?
[11:19] <SoulPropagation> Why am I getting the "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated" error?
[11:20] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: Just guessing here
[11:20] <Gaming1> Is there any package which keeps ubuntu clean, I mean remove temporary data etc
[11:21] <yogurtron> anybody know anything about bluetooth devices, specifically text interfaces to them?
[11:21] <tarzeau> Gaming1: that'd done on reboots for /tmp and it can be configured
[11:21] <tarzeau> Gaming1: for /var/tmp it's up the to administrator
[11:21] <tarzeau> Gaming1: likewise for processes (unless they are zombies)
[11:22] <SoulPropagation> yogurtron: No, do you know anything about bluetooth profiles?
[11:22] <tarzeau> Gaming1: of course picking your software carefully can avoid all the cleanup mess
[11:23] <Newbie_Dude> Gaming1: there's a thread about removing unneeded stuff, lemme find the link
[11:23] <magnetron> yogurtron: the bluetooth stack for linux is called bluez
[11:23] <alsuren> SoulPropagation: oh. Fair enough. No. I'm running it in kdbg and it's not finding any debugging symbols. Gentoo lets you put debugging symbols into /usr/libdebug, but ubuntu just doesn't seem to provide them
[11:24] <Newbie_Dude> Gaming1: "HOWTO cleanup unnecessary junk files -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[11:24] <SoulPropagation> alsuren: Way over my head :p
[11:24] <alsuren> thanks anyway
[11:24] <Gaming1> thanks
[11:24] <yogurtron> magnetron:  I do have bluez installed, but I've not been able to find many good pieces of documentation to tell me how to interface with a bluetooth device.
[11:24] <metbsd> 10G enough for kubuntu?
[11:25] <riaal> I have 2 folders like /sda1/download and /sdb1/music that I want to share over the network whit NFS, The ting is I want them to be shared in the sama folder so I just have to mount ones on the remote machine, is this possible?
[11:25] <riaal> I have made links whit ls -s and when they are mounted they appears as broken links
[11:25] <riaal> ln -s*
[11:25] <SoulPropagation> riaal: no idea then
[11:26] <Gaming1> I have a pretty old IBM laptop, Thinkpad 600 533 Mhz and 128 mb ram to be precise, Can I install Ubuntu on it?
[11:26] <magnetron> yogurtron: try man hcitool   man hciconfig
[11:27] <Daniel_Kyo> Phill?
[11:27] <tarzeau> Gaming1: 128mb might be a bit slow
[11:27] <tarzeau> Gaming1: i'd run another linux on that
[11:27] <SoulPropagation> Gaming1: look at xubunti
[11:27] <SoulPropagation> xubuntu
[11:27] <SoulPropagation> *
[11:27] <alsuren> metbsd: if you can spare 20GB, then your life will be easier
[11:27] <riaal> Anyone know a way to share different hard disks in the same folder?
[11:28] <magnetron> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_600 Gaming1
[11:28] <metbsd> thatps raid, riaal
[11:28] <Enselic> !cd
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <Enselic> !cdwriter
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdwriter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <SoulPropagation> Why am I getting the "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated" error?
[11:28] <desper> Any One works on SunRay Ubuntu
[11:28] <desper> ?
[11:28] <riaal> metbsd, thats to complicated
[11:28] <Enselic> SoulPropagation: is the kernel compiled with support for it?
[11:29] <yogurtron> magnetron:  heh, tried man hci, but that didn't do it, but those seem to be loading what should help.  Thank you
[11:29] <Daniel_Kyo> i want Pill
[11:29] <SoulPropagation> Enselic: How do I find out?
[11:29] <riaal> metbsd, I can just share allt the folders that I want and mount them in one folder on the remote machine but thats really much work for every now machine
[11:29] <Gaming1> I have still not got hang of how to install a package after I have downloaded it...
[11:29] <Cyber_Stalker> yogurtron, man is for manual :
[11:29] <SoulPropagation> Gaming1: sudo apt-get install YOURPACKAGE
[11:30] <Cyber_Stalker> so it wasnt ment to fix it but direct youto the manual pages :
[11:30] <Enselic> SoulPropagation: don't know, sorry
[11:30] <SoulPropagation> Enselic: I just followed the instructions lol
[11:30] <metbsd> no one even know what  you mean , except me
[11:30] <slytherin> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu from hard disk instead of CD?
[11:30] <reverseblade> slytherin, what does rely on harddisk ?
[11:30] <Daniel_Kyo> ubuntu is very easy, but is slow and heavy
[11:31] <magnetron> !install | slytherin
[11:31] <ubotu> slytherin: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> Slyntherin?
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> hauhua Sonserina?
[11:31] <slytherin> reverseblade: Want to install in office. The CD that sysads gave me is corrupt.
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> HArry POtter
[11:31] <Otacon22> how can i flush up dns ttl cache?
[11:31] <Daniel_Kyo> hehe
[11:31] <Gaming1> I am trying to install something and it says "su: authentication failure"
[11:31] <magnetron> Daniel_Kyo: that's not a support question
[11:31] <reverseblade> slytherin, why don't you re-download it ?
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> i want Pill
[11:32] <magnetron> Gaming1: don't use su, use sudo or sudo -i
[11:32] <slytherin> reverseblade: I can but won't be able to burn the ISO. No writer in machine and we are not allowed external devices. :-)
[11:32] <magnetron> !sudo | Gaming1
[11:32] <ubotu> Gaming1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:32] <alsuren> riaal: mount --rbind olddir newdir (from man mount)
[11:32] <Daniel_Kyo> what is slymtherin (IN BRAZIL SLYTERIN= SONSERINA)
[11:33] <reverseblade> slytherin, but you are allowed to install new OS ? non-sense
[11:33] <Gaming1> I am trying to install tovid, I have configured the package now it asks me to type "su -c "make install""
[11:33] <slytherin> reverseblade: Weird policies. Can't help.
[11:33] <SoulPropagation> What's the difference between sudo -i and su anyway
[11:33] <desper> SunRay Ubuntu
[11:33] <reverseblade> slytherin, check the above link given then
[11:33] <desper> any one knows about SunRay Ubuntu
[11:33] <desper> ?
[11:33] <slytherin> reverseblade: Doing the same
[11:34] <metbsd> sudo gives you less chance of rm -fr /
[11:34] <SoulPropagation> nice metbsd :p
[11:34] <magnetron> SoulPropagation: sudo give you root priviligies. su make you root
[11:34] <riaal> alsuren,  Don't understand? sounds good thow
[11:34] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: sudo -i not sudo
[11:35] <Daniel_Kyo> hello! Is channel is not brazilian?
[11:35] <magnetron> SoulPropagation: sudo -i give you a shell, sudo just runs one command as administrator
[11:35] <magnetron> !br | Daniel_Kyo
[11:35] <Daniel_Kyo> OWNED for me!
[11:35] <ubotu> Daniel_Kyo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:35] <metbsd> !br
[11:35] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: I'm asking the difference between sudo -i and su
[11:35] <magnetron> SoulPropagation: sudo -i give you root priviligies. su make you root
[11:35] <Imhil> !tr
[11:35] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:35] <desper> utinstall: fatal, error in the module M00SunRay_first (event Init).
[11:35] <desper> /bin/ls: /opt/SUNWut/sbin/../GDM_<IP_ADDRESS>.2/Linux/Packages/gdm-<IP_ADDRESS>.2-?*.i386.rpm: No such file or directory
[11:35] <metbsd> !cn
[11:35] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:35] <desper> utinstall: fatal, error in the module M00SunRay_first (event Init).
[11:35] <desper> /bin/ls: /opt/SUNWut/sbin/../GDM_<IP_ADDRESS>.2/Linux/Packages/gdm-<IP_ADDRESS>.2-?*.i386.rpm: No such file or directory
[11:36] <metbsd> !jp
[11:36] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[11:36] <desper> utinstall: fatal, error in the module M00SunRay_first (event Init).
[11:36] <SoulPropagation> magnetron: gotcha
[11:36] <desper> /bin/ls: /opt/SUNWut/sbin/../GDM_<IP_ADDRESS>.2/Linux/Packages/gdm-<IP_ADDRESS>.2-?*.i386.rpm: No such file or directory
[11:36] <magnetron> !paste > desper
[11:36] <desper> helo
[11:36] <desper> help
[11:36] <Daniel_Kyo> #ubuntu-pt
[11:36] <SoulPropagation> !paste > me
[11:36] <SoulPropagation> Darn, they didn't update it
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> thanx
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> Bye
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> I love GNU/LINUX
[11:37] <metbsd> i'm installing kubuntu
[11:37] <metbsd> shut up Daniel_Kyo
[11:37] <Daniel_Kyo> Kubuntu is very unstable
[11:37] <metbsd> what do you know about gnu/linux
[11:38] <alsuren> riaal: use "mount --bind <arguments>" where you would have used "ln -s <arguments>", and it will avoid your broken links problem
[11:38] <metbsd> less crash-prone than gnome
[11:38] <Daniel_Kyo> Use Xubuntu, fluxbuntu, Ubuntu
[11:38] <metbsd> use kubuntu
[11:38] <FeistyNux> I use Ubuntu ^_^
[11:38] <metbsd> use buntu
[11:38] <alsuren> riaal: read man mount for more information.
[11:39] <metbsd> buntu is ubuntu without gnome
[11:39] <Daniel_Kyo> without gnome?
[11:39] <metbsd> is there ubuntu without gnome?
[11:39] <FeistyNux> I imagine no.
[11:39] <metbsd> so i can install icewm on it
[11:40] <EvilBro> This is driving me insane: How do you change the icon size on toolbars in ubuntu?
[11:40] <magnetron> metbsd: yes, ubuntu server or kubuntu or xubuntu
[11:40] <FeistyNux> ah. well there you go.
[11:40] <metbsd> ubuntu server has no gnome? server refers to x server?
[11:41] <alsuren> metbsd: or you can do a debootstrap install, which gives you the equivalent of a server install, but is more fun :P
[11:41] <magnetron> metbsd: ubuntu server refers to no desktop system
[11:41] <HEP85> EvilBro: Change the size of the toolbar
[11:41] <metbsd> isn't ubuntu server the debian sid?
[11:42] <EvilBro> HEP85: okay, how do I do that?
[11:42] <HEP85> EvilBro: Rightclick --> Preferences
[11:42] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host ??
[11:42] <magnetron> metbsd: no, ubuntu server is ubuntu server
[11:42] <desper> help : utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host
[11:42] <metbsd> what's the diff between ubuntu server and debian sid
[11:43] <magnetron> !debian | metbsd
[11:43] <ubotu> metbsd: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[11:43] <EvilBro> HEP85: Right click on what? a toolbar?
[11:43] <HEP85> EvilBro: Yes. BTW: I'm talking about gnome. for KDE I don't know how it goes, but it shouldn't be that hard either
[11:43] <metbsd> oh they are related, cool
[11:44] <metbsd> i thought ubuntu is derivitive of debian
[11:44] <mind_shift> Is there a panel app that works like a fast shortcut to a directory? When I click on it, a menu with files that are within a directory appears.
[11:44] <Farva> :/
[11:44] <EvilBro> Hep85: I've tried that (I am on gnome btw), but it either doesn't do anything or I only get the option to 'customize toolbar' (which doesn't contain a size option)... Am on Ubuntu 7.04
[11:44] <magnetron> metbsd: that's their relation
[11:44] <marco> anyone can help me to correctly install the ati driver for 7.04???
[11:44] <danya> can someone help me with installing photoshop using wine ?
[11:44] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host
[11:45] <desper> utconfig: fatal, Sun Ray Data store 2.2 is not installed on this host?
[11:45] <mind_shift> ask about a specific problem, not ask us to be your servaints
[11:46] <Farva> Can someone help me install Debian on a box less than 4 years old without jumping through x hoops to get it working on a fresh install?
[11:47] <HEP85> EvilBro: Oh. You don't mean the gnome-panel, but a toolbar in some application, I suppose
[11:47] <EvilBro> Hep85: Yes
[11:47] <marco> is there any guidelines that i must be aware of? im new to ubuntu and to this channel and i dont want to sound like an ass :$
[11:47] <pawan> hi
[11:47] <pawan> any equilizer player for ubuntu
[11:47] <pawan> to play mp3 files
[11:48] <alsuren> Farva: why are you asking about debian in #ubuntu?
[11:48] <yogurtron> Well, I looked through the manuals people suggested, and I'm still pretty confused.  hcitool itself doesn't seem have the ability to connect except for singular commands, and when i connect via hidd, and then do a hidd --show, it won't display anything.
[11:48] <EvilBro> Hep85: Why the panel and the toolbar don't have a similar behaviour is a mystery to me... that is of course a seperate issue. :)
[11:48] <tarzeau> pawan: opencubicplayer
[11:48] <HEP85> EvilBro: I think then it is up to the application you are using
[11:49] <alsuren> marco: check the links in the channel title
[11:49] <pawan> how to open cubicplayer
[11:49] <tarzeau> pawan: ocp in a shell
[11:49] <tarzeau> pawan: configure the .ocp/ocp.ini (if you want graphics output)
[11:49] <pawan> terminal
[11:49] <tarzeau> pawan: yes in a terminal
[11:50] <EvilBro> Hep85: app in question: ephipany. However I was under the impression that Gnome applications should have a global setting... was this incorrecT?
[11:50] <pawan> ya i want graphics output
[11:50] <HEP85> EvilBro: I have an idea. let me try it
[11:50] <tarzeau> pawan: it's got text graphics too :)
[11:50] <pawan> ok
[11:50] <pawan> how
[11:50] <Farva> marco: Key to the technical industry, never down an idea unless you have a viable recommendation.
[11:51] <pawan> i am at the $ prompt
[11:51] <Farva> And Alsuren: I was being sarcastic. Knowing NOONE can install a fresh debain without error on a box less than 4 yrs old.
[11:51] <mind_shift> pawan: type startx
[11:51] <mind_shift> :)
[11:52] <frojnd1> hello there
[11:52] <frojnd1> how can I reset settings for my keyboard, mouse monitor??
[11:52] <SoulPropagation> frojnd1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:52] <hid3> Hello everyone. I run a process which should use about 99% of cpu. But sometimes I notice that the process is using ~3-5% of cpu while %idle is near to 0. I found that the other % are being used by 'wa' (waiting?). Is there any way I can debug/find where the problem lies?
[11:52] <SoulPropagation> !help
[11:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:52] <alsuren> Farva: lol trollz
[11:52] <pawan> user not authorized to run the xserver
[11:53] <jmchaffie> hi all, having a last step issue with shoutcast. it's broadcasting on my local network no problem, shotcast network seems to see me fine, but apparently I'm just not getting out.
[11:54] <jmchaffie> nobody can connect back to me, does anyone here have experience w/ shoutcast?
[11:54] <HEP85> EvilBro: I tried gconf-editor and then /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_icon_size
[11:54] <belleke> is it possible to change users in the terminal sow i don't have to switch users?
[11:54] <HEP85> EvilBro: I think it doesn't work
[11:54] <alsuren> hid3: my understanding is that wa (wait%) is time spent waiting for hard disk I/O etc.
[11:54] <EvilBro> HEP85: :)
[11:54] <Kain> Anyone know of an app that can convert a vfat .img to iso9660
[11:55] <EvilBro> HEP85: not really what I wanted to hear of course.
[11:55] <SoulPropagation> belleke: su username
[11:55] <aa^way> hello,  how to use FFMPEG for MOV video to MP3 audio?
[11:55] <HEP85> EvilBro: But maybe you have to restart so that changes take effect. Or those settings are overwritten by the theme
[11:55] <hid3> alsuren: thanks, will try to inspect the disk system (that process is using the disk heavily).
[11:56] <belleke> thx
[11:56] <EvilBro> Hep85: I'll go try some stuff... unless it will break my setup of course... will it? (in all likeliness)
[11:56] <alsuren> hid3: note that on other OSs (eg. windows), the CPU monitor doesn't include wait% as busy CPU time
[11:56] <pawan> hello
[11:56] <pawan> startx not working
[11:57] <alsuren> so on windows, you will only ever hiht 100PU if something is in a busy loop
[11:57] <hid3> well, just linux running there
[11:57] <marco> i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager, selected the driver and restarted my pc and i get a black screen once ubuntu loads all the modules, anyone can help me?
[11:57] <marco> im tryiing to install the ati driver for an radeon9800 pro by the way:$
[11:58] <HEP85> EvilBro: I don't think so
[11:59] <jmchaffie> anyone dealt w/ idjc / shoutcast?
[11:59] <alsuren> hid3: but on linux, you will almost always either be at ~0% or ~100%.
[11:59] <EvilBro> HEp85: another question, if you don't mind, I recently installed pidgin from source. am I correct in assuming that a repository update might break pidgin due to a necessary library being replaced by another version? (probably a small change)
[12:00] <EvilBro> chance... not change
[12:00] <ayhan> seLam
[12:00] <tarzeau> EvilBro: it's possible yes
[12:01] <PriceChild> EvilBro, i doubt it... but if it does then your fault and you can fix it? :)
[12:01] <echosystm> guys, quick question, would a minimal alt install (x, gnome and firefox) be any faster than a default ubuntu install?
[12:01] <solitude|> Yes.
[12:01] <echosystm> ie. does a default install have much bloat?
[12:01] <solitude|> Yes it would.
[12:01] <solitude|> Yes.
[12:01] <echosystm> ok
[12:01] <ayhan> beni anlayan kimse varmi buralarda ??
[12:01] <EvilBro> PriceChild: whether I can is not the issue... I'm going to have to be able to I think. :)
[12:01] <solitude|> remving ubuntu-desktop. then installing Gnome is a clever idea.
[12:02] <ziroday> ayhan: indonesian?
[12:02] <echosystm> enough to make it worthwhile?
[12:02] <solitude|> then use aptitude to add what you want
[12:02] <HEP85> EvilBro: May be, but not very likely, because mostly the libs are compatible downwards
[12:02] <ayhan> no turkey
[12:02] <ziroday> ayhan: oh sorry
[12:02] <PriceChild> !turkey
[12:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <PriceChild> !tr
[12:02] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:02] <echosystm> can you tell me what in particular causes the bloat solitude| ?
[12:02] <alsuren> EvilBro: if you installed something from source, it should be installed in /usr/local, rather than /usr/, so an update shouldn't overwrite anything installed from source
[12:03] <buck> how long does it take to build kernel
[12:03] <buck> took forever just to confic it
[12:03] <tarzeau> buck: 5 minutes to 5 hours
[12:03] <EvilBro> alsuren: I installed it in my home directory I think...
[12:03] <PriceChild> buck, how long is a piece of string?
[12:03] <giwrgos> hi
[12:03] <buck> strin?
[12:04] <buck> string?
[12:04] <PriceChild> buck, depends on your pc, your build environment, what options you've chosen
[12:04] <giwrgos> hello all
[12:04] <buck> cool...
[12:04] <buck> this is my fist day with linux
[12:04] <danya> can anyone help me with CS2 installation on ubuntu ??
[12:04] <PriceChild> buck, Don't recompile the kernel.
[12:04] <buck> i should have left well enough alone
[12:04] <ziroday> buck: than why you recompiling kernel?
[12:05] <alsuren> EvilBro: good choice. You should be fine then. Even if it *does break* (unlikely), you can just delete and recompile
[12:05] <pawan> how to open cubicplayer
[12:05] <PriceChild> buck, I have no idea why you would need to recompile it...  just leave it alone :)
[12:05] <buck> im building it to a later build
[12:05] <giwrgos> einai kanenas ellhnas edw?
[12:05] <tarzeau> pawan: ocp *.mp3
[12:05] <buck> yeah .. i know .. but i figured i wanted to get my hands wet
[12:05] <zyth> buck, not necessary
[12:05] <buck> you know ..
[12:05] <SoulPropagation> !gr | giwrgos
[12:05] <ubotu> giwrgos: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:05] <EvilBro> So if I ever wanted to delete the app I installed myself, I would just need to delete it? It doesn't register itself anywhere?
[12:06] <pawan> the program ins not installed
[12:06] <buck> but i have back up kernels..
[12:06] <EvilBro> I followed the instruction here btw : http://opensourceme.blogspot.com/2007/05/howto-install-pidgin-from-source-on.html
[12:06] <buck> they say i cant hurt anything
[12:06] <angel_of_jeff> hello
[12:06] <alsuren> buck: if you want to get your hands dirty, try gentoo :P
[12:06] <buck> i didnt say dirty .. i mentioned wet
[12:06] <ziroday> EvilBro: just use the pidign.deb
[12:07] <alsuren> buck: I jest
[12:07] <pawan> how to install cubicplayer
[12:07] <ziroday> buck: ive been with linux for maybe a year and i have never recompiled the kernel
[12:07] <buck> im on the char now
[12:07] <frojnd1> how can I check what's the size of package?
[12:07] <buck> drivers/hid
[12:07] <ziroday> buck: youre more than dirty
[12:08] <buck> yeah .. i konw
[12:08] <EvilBro> ziroday: bit late for that. :) What is the difference between the .deb and the source-install method? The .deb does more things for you?
[12:08] <alsuren> buck: the answer to your original question is "try  it and see" (use "time make all" to get an accurate idea :D )
[12:08] <angel_of_jeff> Does someone know how to move my home folder to another partition?
[12:08] <frojnd1> anyone?
[12:08] <ziroday> EvilBro: .deb takes care of the dependences and no need to compile
[12:08] <buck> i am also tired as i have been up over 24 hours with this
[12:08] <ziroday> EvilBro: as if installed via synaptic
[12:08] <buck> im like a virgin..
[12:08] <mikubuntu> !libraries
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libraries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <buck> and i like what i see
[12:09] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: mount /dev/<partition> /mnt  ...
[12:09] <EvilBro> ziroday: I see. And every deb works with ubuntu? or am I going to run into some weird problems?
[12:09] <ziroday> EvilBro: most .debs do, the one i can show you to does
[12:09] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: sudo cp -a /home/* /mnt
[12:09] <buck> .. i once asked a deb out ..
[12:09] <mikubuntu> can anyone tell me where to go to browse libraries of ubuntu compatible open source softwares
[12:10] <buck> now i am on the Isdn
[12:10] <arso> hey guys
[12:10] <buck> howdi ars
[12:10] <arso> its me from yesterday , i still have trouble with my sound on both videos and music.
[12:10] <angel_of_jeff> alsuren: thx
[12:10] <arso> buck:  its arso.
[12:11] <buck> yeah .. i apologize .. i sroped the O
[12:11] <buck> sorry
[12:11] <EvilBro> ziroday: Suppose i have a app installed through the ubuntu repository. It is however not the latest version and the newer version has a feature that I want. There is a deb available. Should I unistall the ubuntu-version first? or can I simply install the new version from the deb?
[12:11] <arso> buck:  np.
[12:11] <buck> been up long time playing wiht the fire
[12:11] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: umount /mnt && mv /home /home~ && mkdir /home && mount /dev/<partition> /home
[12:11] <arso> buck: i see, understandable. can u help me?
[12:11] <tanlaan> anyone wanna point me to a tutorial on installing compiz fusion?
[12:12] <arso> !flash
[12:12] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:12] <SoulPropagation> !gnash | me
[12:12] <ubotu> me: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[12:12] <buck> if its a personal matter sure .. but if it has to do with linux.. i just popped my cherry today
[12:12] <buck> well 24 hours ago
[12:12] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: it's even possible to do it to a live system, with only a few breakages, because the down-time between mv and mount is less than a second
[12:12] <mikubuntu> !ubuntu repository
[12:12] <mikubuntu> !ubuntu repositories
[12:13] <buck> im on Media now
[12:13] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: and then rm -R /home~ once you're sure everything's fine
[12:13] <arso> is gnash recommended?
[12:13] <buck> im glad we can do things while the kernel builds
[12:13] <EvilBro> Suppose i have a app installed through the ubuntu repositories. It is however not the latest version and the newer version has a feature that I want. There is a deb available. Should I unistall the ubuntu-version first? or can I simply install the new version from the deb?
[12:13] <buck> this is awesome..
[12:13] <tanlaan> !compiz
[12:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:13] <buck> its like my sculprure
[12:13] <arso> buck:  what are you talking about :P
[12:14] <buck> im sure you all are very artful when it comes to building your kernels
[12:14] <ziroday> EvilBro: you need to uninstall the ubuntu one first
[12:14] <buck> im talking about linux
[12:14] <arso> i see,
[12:14] <mikubuntu> !ubuntu repositories
[12:14] <arso> !sound
[12:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:14] <ninnghizidha> Hi there! My OpenOffice Apps lost all their icons. Please help.
[12:14] <buck> i am like a virgin ..
[12:14] <buck> i mean i have seen linux before
[12:14] <EvilBro> ziroday: Okay. Same goes for 'from source' then.
[12:14] <primski> hello, how can i make feisty mount my phone memory card, its a 2gb SD mini
[12:14] <tanlaan> Like a virgin for the very first time? ;D
[12:14] <SoulPropagation> So I just set up a virtual machine in qemu but there aren't any network interfaces on the guest machine. how can I add 'em
[12:15] <primski> it used to mount smaller card 128mb without problems, but wont do it with 2gb
[12:15] <buck> but never installed it or really checked it out.. and i am amazed at how seamless it is .. and am wondering why MS is still around
[12:15] <mikubuntu> hmmmmmmmmmmm... anyone tell me where to find all that software, like beryl, and cad programs, etc...?
[12:15] <pawan1234> hi
[12:15] <_imran_> yesterday i instaled compiz-fusion and everything seemed to be working fine, now when i booted up again, nothing wants to work...there are no desktop effects, can anybody tell me how to fix this problem
[12:15] <arso> yep , linux is amazing. i started 2 days ago :D
[12:15] <buck> what directory is after drivers
[12:16] <EvilBro> thanks hep85, ziroday, and others... am going to restart now to see if the icons change size. :)
[12:16] <angel_of_jeff> alsuren: that was exactly what i was looking for...thanx a lot
[12:16] <buck> awesome.. have you been to sleep yet?
[12:16] <arso> nope.
[12:16] <varun0> buck: after drivers?
[12:16] <pawan> how to enable automatic login in ubuntu
[12:16] <marcosoria> hi, im trying to install the ati drivers on 7.04, i followed the instructions on a wiki and it didnt't owrk and im stuck in a black screen, i did sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[12:16] <arso> trying to fix everything
[12:16] <arso> just sound left, its all fucked up :(
[12:16] <buck> yea on the kernel build i am on drivers /net
[12:16] <arso> !coc
[12:16] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:17] <alsuren> angel_of_jeff: :D glad to help.
[12:17] <HEP85> pawan: System --> Admin --> Login Window
[12:17] <HEP85> --> Security
[12:18] <pawan> then
[12:18] <pawan> how to install cubicplayer
[12:18] <buck> what are all the warnings about
[12:19] <buck> drivers/scsi/megaraid.c:3626: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
[12:19] <HEP85> pawan: sudo apt-get install opencubicplayer
[12:19] <tarzeau> pawan: apt-get install opencubicplayer
[12:19] <buck> do i need to reconfigure my file
[12:19] <|thunder> could someone please tell me exactly which feisty package i need to satisfy this 'checking for Qt library version >= 4.1... no; Qt 4.1 or greater is required'
[12:19] <primski> anybody knows if ubuntu has some sort of size limit for usb memory cards?? i cant get it to mount 2gb sd mini
[12:19] <mikubuntu> hola guys.  how do i get ubuntu to give me more screen resolution, its only offering me 600 x 800?
[12:19] <HEP85> :p
[12:19] <Dezine> I'm trying to use Beryl and I was able to set it up but now I can't get it to work, the manager opens with no issues. I'm using feisty and the desktop effects features works, any ideas?
[12:19] <HEP85> mikubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:19] <arso> synaptic says i already have flashplugin-nonfree , but i cant load youtub videos yet, it says i need flash, any ideas?
[12:20] <alsuren> pawan: it is also possible to turn a USB memory stick into a key that lets you log in without a password (google for pam-usb)
[12:20] <pawan> great
[12:20] <buck> arso do you have 64 bit build
[12:20] <primski> anybody owns nokia n80 ?
[12:20] <arso> buck:  no.
[12:20] <mikubuntu> hep85: so i just open a terminal and paste that in?
[12:20] <arso> buck:  its x86
[12:21] <_imran_> yesterday i instaled compiz-fusion and everything seemed to be working fine, now when i booted up again, nothing wants to work...there are no desktop effects, can anybody tell me how to fix this problem
[12:21] <skollie> primski: I do
[12:21] <alsuren> buck: are you still compiling the kernel?
[12:21] <HEP85> buck: 64 bit has no flashplugin-nonfree
[12:21] <pawan> how to start cubic player
[12:21] <primski> skollie, do you have any problems with mounting memory cards?
[12:21] <pawan> it is installed
[12:21] <primski> i just bought a 2gb sd mini, and it wont mount :s
[12:21] <_imran_> primski, i have a nokai n73
[12:21] <marcosoria> how can i switch to one of the consoles in linux, i know its a combination of a key and a number?
[12:21] <arso> HEP85: i am on x86 and i have flashplugin-nonfree but youtube vids arent loading
[12:21] <buck> i know i run a 32 bit version of firefox
[12:21] <primski> default one, 128mb, mountet without problems
[12:21] <skollie> primski: I don't follow
[12:21] <buck> followed the install instructions
[12:22] <HEP85> I run 64 bit firefox + flash
[12:22] <primski> skollie, a ok, no probs
[12:22] <Dezine> Ok, it's working but now I have no window decorator
[12:22] <HEP85> arso: are you using firefox?
[12:22] <buck> oh nice..
[12:22] <primski> _imran_ how big memory card u have ?
[12:22] <buck> i would like to do that
[12:22] <arso> HEP85:  yes, the default one with ubuntu
[12:22] <arso> HEP85:  installed ubuntu 2 days ago.
[12:22] <pawan> hello
[12:22] <_imran_> does anybody know if there is a taskbar for linux that looks like the one mac osx has
[12:22] <buck> do you think with theys warnings i have to reconfigure
[12:22] <_imran_> primski, very small, 128mb
[12:22] <HEP85> arso: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[12:22] <ziroday> _imran_: avant-window-navigator
[12:23] <HEP85> is it showing libflashplayer.so?
[12:23] <primski> _imran_ i had that one too, works without problems, now i bought 2gb one, but wont mount in feisty :S
[12:23] <_imran_> ziroday, how do you get it?
[12:23] <buck> takes forever ..
[12:23] <pawan> how to start the cubic player
[12:23] <arso> HEP85:  and?
[12:23] <_imran_> primski, have you tried on another OS?
[12:23] <HEP85> arso: is it showing libflashplayer.so?
[12:23] <ziroday> _imran_: trevino has it in his repp, google trevino repo 3v1
[12:24] <primski> _imran_ not yet, will reboot to win xp asap, am just dl'ing smth :P
[12:24] <arso> yes, but its in red, and flashplayer.xpt is in red, others are in blue
[12:24] <buck> on net /bluetooth
[12:24] <mikubuntu> HEP85: i pasted that in, and then ubuntu asks me for my password, but won't accept any text, just the black blinking box there...
[12:25] <arso> HEP85: yes, but its in red, and flashplayer.xpt is in red, others are in blue
[12:25] <_imran_> ziroday, must i search for trevino repo 3v1 on google?
[12:25] <ziroday> _imran_: yes
[12:25] <HEP85> mikubuntu: it accepts a passward, but it is not echoed
[12:25] <HEP85> just try it
[12:25] <HEP85> arso: red is not good, I think
[12:25] <mikubuntu> HEP85: you mean i don't see it?
[12:25] <_imran_> ziroday, ok, will do
[12:25] <arso> HEP85:  hmm. i'll try reinstalling it.
[12:26] <arso> HEP85:  wait, how do i reinstall a firefox plugin?
[12:26] <buck> is red incomplete package
[12:26] <arso> HEP85:  i am reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree
[12:26] <buck> i think it needs to be free
[12:26] <HEP85> mikubuntu: yes
[12:26] <arso> buck:  so what do we do about it?
[12:26] <HEP85> arso: ok
[12:26] <buck> thats why its red
[12:27] <arso> how do i reinstall the flash plgugin on firefox
[12:27] <arso> plugin*
[12:27] <buck> .. sudo get-install flash9
[12:27] <buck> something like that
[12:27] <_imran_> can anybody help me solve this problem...i installed compiz-fusion yesterday without any problems...but today when i booted up...it didn't want to work
[12:27] <arso> get-apt ?
[12:27] <buck> yeah get-apt install flash9
[12:28] <Farva> apt-get? :)
[12:28] <arso> oh woops
[12:28] <arso> :P
[12:28] <buck> i am thinking its in a repository somewhere
[12:28] <buck> now i am building modules , stage 3 modpost 1660 modules
[12:28] <arso>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:29] <HEP85> arso: delete the red libflashplayer.so before reinstalling. maybe it blocks the install
[12:29] <arso> HEP85:  how ?
[12:29] <mikubuntu> HEP85: ok, you right; i got a screen that's axing me:  Drivers are typically named for the video card or chipset manufacturer,
[12:29] <mikubuntu>   or for a specific model or family of chipsets.
[12:29] <Farva> arso, you prolly have synaptic package manager running or something.
[12:29] <HEP85> arso: sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[12:29] <arso> HEP85:  and should i delete the other red one too, flashplayer.xpt
[12:29] <HEP85> arso: yes
[12:29] <arso> Farva:  yes, i am, is that why?
[12:29] <reverseblade> does anyone know how can make the address bar and menu bar of firefox visible again ?
[12:30] <mikubuntu> HEP85: there's a whole list and it came out highlited red on 'ati'
[12:30] <rausb0> buck: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:30] <Farva> yup, you can only run one process, close one.
[12:30] <buck> do i put that in my plugin directory
[12:30] <arso> Farva:  ok , i am reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree in synaptic
[12:31] <solitude|> rofl
[12:31] <HEP85> rausb0: he needs to do a REinstall
[12:31] <solitude|> metacity is evil
[12:31] <Farva> cool
[12:31] <arso> ok finished reinstalling.
[12:31] <EvilBro> Hep85: in case you wanted an update on the icon size thing: rebooting has no effect whatsoever. :)
[12:31] <rausb0> HEP85: so his system is fubar?
[12:31] <HEP85> rausb0: no. only the package^^
[12:32] <primski> did anybody try transfering data to mobile phone, thru wireless network, i have nokia n80 and am trying to share content over WiFi, send some music over to the phone, am i uderstanding this correctly?
[12:32] <Farva> This has got to be the most active nix chan I've ever seen.
[12:32] <arso> youtube still isnt working :(
[12:32] <ziroday> Farva: we are on freenode :0
[12:32] <arso> even after reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree
[12:32] <CaneToad> Hi, I'd like to report a problem.... Ubuntu 7.04 boots on my machine (Clevo D870P) from CD, and X comes up, but I don't get any windows at all on the X server, just a blank coloured screen with cursor that moves with my mouse.  Pressing CTRL-ALT-F1 flicks back to terminal mode and can't see anything relevant in dmesg
[12:32] <HEP85> arso: I don't know the reinstall command for apt-get. You can also reinstall using synaptic
[12:33] <arso> HEP85:  i finished reinstalling it.
[12:33] <arso> HEP85:  does this reinstall the plugin in firefox too?
[12:33] <ziroday> CaneToad: in terminal mode type sudo startx
[12:33] <HEP85> arso: I think so. You only have to close all browser windows and restart firefox
[12:34] <CaneToad> ziroday:  can try that, but X is already started, the server is up
[12:34] <arso> restarting firefox.
[12:34] <CaneToad> If I set the display, I can start an xterm
[12:34] <CaneToad> but there's no window manager or anything
[12:34] <CaneToad> I can start gnome-wm
[12:34] <arso> amarok is lagging my whole system with its music scan :(
[12:35] <arso> youtube still isnt working. after reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree and restarting firefox.
[12:35] <buck> damn .. i want to get this completed
[12:36] <arso> HEP85: youtube still isnt working. after reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree and restarting firefox
[12:36] <lpandre> hello
[12:36] <HEP85> arso: start firefox in a terminal and watch the output when you open the youtube video
[12:37] <HEP85> arso: you will see any error messages there
[12:37] <arso> HEP85:  how please..
[12:37] <buck> start in terminal
[12:37] <rubika> Hi all ! I'm all new with Ubuntu, but after one week, I want to say that it's the best damn OS I've ever tried ! Wahhh ! :p Well... That's good to say. ;)
[12:37] <HEP85> arso: gnome-terminal
[12:37] <HEP85> arso: just enter firefox inthere
[12:37] <lpandre> Can someone guide me... how to get 5.1 surround sound
[12:37] <arso> oh yea, i have a problem with my gnome-terminal
[12:37] <arso> it was working fine the first half day
[12:38] <arso> then it became a white box.
[12:38] <arso> i tried changing the colors, still a whilte box :S
[12:38] <mikubuntu> HEP85: where do i find the rest of the information ubuntu wants to reconfigure my screen?  it's a dell latitude 600 i'm on
[12:38] <arso> iv ebeen using xterm since then
[12:38] <HEP85> then use xterm
[12:38] <lpandre> i am using totem player with xine-lib
[12:38] <HEP85> mikubuntu: what exactly do you need to know?
[12:39] <metropeople> buon giorno!!!
[12:39] <buck> how do i know when it finishes building the kernel
[12:39] <HEP85> mikubuntu: if you don't know something just press enter the select the default