[07:37] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:37] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: u wanted to know that, right?
[07:37] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: the names
[07:38] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Do you mind it applies to all of them?
[07:38] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: what do you mean
[07:39] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: the '773' means owner and group have complete read/write/access while others can only access and read.
[07:39] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: hmm, they should have all access
[07:40] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Then this should be fine
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i typed "sudo chmod -R 733 '/dev/sda1'"
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: sudo chmod -R 773 '/dev/sda1/home/' too?
[07:40] <nicolai_> jep
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: it says "no permission"
[07:40] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: chmod: Zugriff auf /dev/sda1/home/ nicht mglich: Not a directory
[07:41] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: the first is to make sure only root can change critical files, while the second is to make sure a regular user can change files iin his/her own folders
[07:41] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sounds strange. Try going to the folder.
[07:43] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: i would also expect /media/sda1 to be the correct location.
[07:43] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: /mnt/sda1/home
[07:43] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: can you see the home directories from there?
[07:44] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: yes
[07:44] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: of the 3 different users
[07:44] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: Then I'll change the command for you
[07:44] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:44] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sudo chmod -R 733 '/mnt/sda1/'
[07:45] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: weird, it says "no such file or directory"
[07:45] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: sudo chmod -R 773 '/mnt/sda1/home/'
[07:45] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: both cmds say the same message
[07:46] <brian_> anyone know how to install firefox without adept
[07:46] <duanarchy> Is it possible to do a cdrom-less install?
[07:46] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: try this:   cd /media
[07:46] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: and now?
[07:46] <nicolai_> Kite_DH:  dir
[07:47] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: cdrom  cdrom0
[07:47] <fdoving> duanarchy: yes, more info on ways to install at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:47] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: hmm..
[07:47] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: back to the /mnt folder
[07:47] <duanarchy> fdoving, thanks
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !netinstall
[07:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:48] <fdoving> Kite_DH: what's your problem? i'm a little into removable media handling in kubuntu.
[07:48] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: outside of the konsole
[07:48] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: right click on the 'sda1' icon
[07:48] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: ok
[07:48] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: /mnt/sda1
[07:48] <dominik_> hello world...
[07:48] <Osiris_> hiya everyone i need a bit of help'[
[07:49] <brian_> whats the deal osiris
[07:49] <Osiris_> i tried installing LTS on my new pc , and it just hangs there
[07:49] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: you need to be in /mnt not /mnt/sda1.
[07:49] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: ok
[07:49] <newbie_> hi, i seem to of really broken kubuntu XD
[07:49] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: im in  /mnt now
[07:49] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: I want to know exactly where it says the moint point is
[07:49] <chatters> osiris what does it show
[07:49] <Osiris_> grr , i gotta go , i'll be back later sorry for bugging ya's
[07:50] <duanarchy> An even simpler question, is it possible to upgrade from ubuntu 5.04 --> Kubuntu feisty?
[07:50] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: right click on the 'sda1' icon and read the second last line
[07:50] <fdoving> duanarchy: yes, but you need to go all the way, 5.04 -> 5.10 -> 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04
[07:50] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: montiert aus perhaps :P
[07:50] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: "laufwerkverbindung lsen"
[07:50] <duanarchy> fdoving, that could take all day -- it would probably be simpler than doing a cd-less install eh?
[07:50] <Sephnroth> i installed nvidia drivers on my kubuntu (fiesty, amd64) and well, it seems to of half n half worked.  im in KDE now, i get the nvidia logo when kde starts.  my main monitor (dual CRT setup) is indeed displaying in 1280x960... but....
[07:51] <dominik_> am having problem updating my system, the adept manager and the apt-get are not working....
[07:51] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: i translate: unmount driveconnection
[07:51] <Sephnroth> the monitor isnt set to that res it seems because moving the mouse to the edge scrolls it.  my 2nd monitor is stuck in 640x480 nothing i can do helps it.  i get a sigsegv err on kde load
[07:51] <dominik_> no matter what I do, I can't seem to connect to the update site
[07:51] <Sephnroth> which i belive is restore_screen.py
[07:51] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: ahh sorry, my bad. press 'Permissions' first.
[07:51] <Sephnroth> and clicking on the monitors/displays icon in the system settings window causes another sigsegv every time :P
[07:52] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: ok
[07:52] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: properties ><
[07:52] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: I'm running the dansih version. :P
[07:52] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: properties > permissions
[07:52] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: It's cheaper to do a full install
[07:52] <ninina_> Anyone know anything about remote connections?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: Hope you have a home partition
[07:53] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, ?  I
[07:53] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, i'm in linux right now ..  (blag fd6)
[07:53] <ses1959_> dumb question on tz and installing programs
[07:53] <duanarchy> fc6*
[07:53] <fdoving> ses1959_: no questions are dumb in here. shoot.
[07:53] <cyberkill> CyberKiLL
[07:53] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: try the first tab. 'general' I guess.
[07:53] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: Right so you want to upgrade from Old *buntu to new ?
[07:53] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: okay, whats there
[07:54] <fdoving> nicolai_, kite_dh, what are you guys trying to do?
[07:54] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, either that or install the new kubuntu without a cdrom
[07:54] <Kite_DH> fdoving: getting my system to boot
[07:54] <ses1959_> I downloaded adobe reader and used tar -zv to unzip and found file but need next step to install the install file it made
[07:54] <nicolai_> Kite_DH: what does the second last line say?
[07:54] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. what's wrong with it?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: You can upgrade but expect that to take like three days
[07:55] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i wonder
[07:55] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, I'll try installing from my home partition
[07:55] <Sephnroth> no one got any clues for me? ;)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: do you have a home partition?
[07:55] <ses1959_> tried apt-get but it did not work
[07:55] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, actually, no just a root partition and a boot partition.
[07:55] <ses1959_> I think that i need to make or make install or something like that
[07:56] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, can't I just do it from root?
[07:56] <nicolai_> fdoving: right now I'm trying to figure out the mount point for the hard disk drive.
[07:56] <fdoving> !software | ses1959_
[07:56] <ubotu> ses1959_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[07:56] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7826/bildschirmphoto1xj2.png
[07:56] <fdoving> nicolai_: a mounted disk?
[07:56] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: mountpoint: /mnt/sda1
[07:57] <fdoving> nicolai_: /proc/mounts is usefull
[07:57] <Search4Lancer> is there a package for cairo itself in any repositories? I'm not finding it, and all I've got so far is libraries and bindings
[07:58] <nicolai_> fdoving: yep, it is from a live-cd. We are trying to give the installed system the correct permissions.
[07:58] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: yes you can
[07:58] <fdoving> Search4Lancer: libcairo?
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> fdoving: I have libcairo2, it doesn't seem to help me much
[07:58] <fdoving> nicolai_: what files have permission problems?
[07:58] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, hope it's not too difficult
[07:58] <fdoving> Search4Lancer: are you compiling software?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: to do an upgrade?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> shouldn't be but it is long
[07:59] <fdoving> Search4Lancer: if you are, then you need libcairo2-dev
[07:59] <Search4Lancer> fdoving: yeah, trying to install the program used to make the hurricane track maps on Wikipedia, cairo is a requirement
[07:59] <nicolai_> fdoving: this was the paste Kite_DH gave: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1086
[07:59] <ahmed> guys i have so many xorg files how do i know which one is currently being used ??
[07:59] <hakaisou> !freetype
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <duanarchy> DaSkreech, .*blinks* . . to do a full install.  I'm *not* running ubuntu right now .. I'm running a lesser known fedora distro
[07:59] <fdoving> ahmed: the one name xorg.conf with no more dots or numbers.
[07:59] <iarwain_> ahmed: the one called /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;-)
[07:59] <Black_Monkey> hi, I just went to upgrade to kde 3.5.7 from the packages on the kubuntu homepage, but it's saying that kdm, konqueror, kicker, ksplash, smbclient and samba-common can't be installed because their dependencies are 3.5.6 :/
[08:00] <ahmed> there are some others that arent back ups
[08:00] <ahmed> i suspect that they r being used or so
[08:00] <klinger> je tu nekdo z CR
[08:00] <ahmed> xorg.conf.fglrx5
[08:00] <nicolai_> Black_Monkey: did you remember  to add the riddell key?
[08:00] <sephnroth> well at least im in a proper version of kvirc now.
[08:01] <Black_Monkey> nicolai_: yeah, I already had it added from installing kde 3.5.6 on edgy
[08:01] <Black_Monkey> or would it be a different one?
[08:01] <fdoving> ahmed: no, only xorg.conf is beeing used, many packages make their own backup, backups are not overwritten by others, so any program changing your xorg.conf makes its own backup.
[08:01] <Search4Lancer> fdoving: thanks, that seemed to have worked
[08:01] <sephnroth> i am missing XRandR apprantly preventing me from dynamically changing my desktop resolution in nvidia config - how do i get it?  apt-get doesnt know what it is
[08:01] <fdoving> nicolai_: what makes you think some permissions are wrong?
[08:02] <duanarchy> Okay, if I am creating a bootable partition to install kubuntu from my existing linux box, will it be possible to get that 750megs or so back? (To collapse the partition and place the memory back into root or home)
[08:02] <fdoving> sephnroth: start krandrtray - kmenu -> run command 'krandrtray' - you have it already.
[08:02] <nicolai_> fdoving: some of the previous problems from before the paste
[08:03] <nicolai_> fdoving: It was just to make sure that part worked correctly, but the konsole didn't seem to recognize the mountpoint.
[08:03] <nicolai_> Black_Monkey: I used the same key as on Edgy
[08:03] <sephnroth> mm, fdoving, running that does indeed run it and sit it in my tray.  but, even after closing and rerunning, the nvidia config still insists the extension is not there or not supported by the server
[08:03] <fdoving> nicolai_: hmm.. the paste only shows a fsck.
[08:03] <sephnroth> i really screwed this kubuntu somehow :(
[08:04] <fdoving> sephnroth: ah, nvidia, i have no idea if they support xrandr or not.
[08:04] <sephnroth> its not essential, everything else would still be broken anyway
[08:05] <fdoving> nicolai_: did fsck from the livecd work?
[08:05] <Kite_DH> fdoving: didnt try
[08:06] <sephnroth> glxgears gives me 5392.261 FPS - so the drivers are installed right.  just.. not working as they "should" - smeg what have i moofed up
[08:06] <duanarchy> i get 220 fps on a ti4600
[08:07] <duanarchy> (with open OR propriety drivers installed)
[08:07] <nicolai_> Kite_DH and fdoving: Have to go to dinner or my dad will get cross. Sorry..
[08:07] <Kite_DH> nicolai_: mhm
[08:08] <fdoving> Kite_DH: can you explain your problem to be from the start? - what was your initial problem?
[08:08] <sephnroth> well.  when kde starts i get a sigsegv (restore_screen.py i think).  when i goto "System Settings" from kmenu and then click "Monitor and Display" it crashes with sigsegv
[08:08] <Kite_DH> fdoving: can i query?
[08:08] <sephnroth> no one know whats going on?
[08:08] <fdoving> Kite_DH: sure.
[08:09] <fdoving> sephnroth: i guess displayconfig doesn't support nvidia closed source driver very well.
[08:09] <viktor> how do i associate a protcol (irc://) with an application (konversation)
[08:10] <i\o> that's discrimination
[08:10] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. the device is mounted at /mnt/sd<somethin> right?
[08:11] <fdoving> Kite_DH: you can start with opening an konsole, (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[08:11] <Kite_DH> fdoving: /mnt/sda1
[08:12] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i got my konsole running on root
[08:12] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. good. then run 'chroot /mnt/sda1'
[08:13] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok and now
[08:13] <sercik> someone is able to install and run beryl with nvidia on kubuntu??
[08:13] <fdoving> Kite_DH: 'aptitude update;aptitude -u dist-upgrade'
[08:13] <sercik> i go to lunch goodbye
[08:13] <fdoving> Kite_DH: does it want to upgrade anything?
[08:13] <Black_Monkey> sercik: beryl installed no problem for me
[08:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: wait for a min
[08:14] <Black_Monkey> with binary nvidia drivers
[08:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1092
[08:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: do u think it has anything to do with this?
[08:14] <fdoving> Kite_DH: no.
[08:15] <fdoving> Kite_DH: that's the fstab, if you didn't resize or change the paritions in any way that should be fine.
[08:15] <Kite_DH> fdoving:
[08:15] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok*
[08:16] <DaSkreech> duanarchy: Yes It's easy to do an install
[08:16] <DaSkreech> you will have to use a text installer
[08:16] <DaSkreech> Why were you asking about 5.04 ?
[08:18] <turcko> hi, someone can help me with kdialog please?
[08:18] <muaddib> there anywhere where i can check to see if certain hardware is supported in kubuntu?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> !hardware
[08:18] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:19] <muaddib> neat
[08:19] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[08:19] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:19] <n0n4m3-> !die
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about die - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <n0n4m3-> xD
[08:19] <muaddib> that reminds me, might have to test the last release of fedora, haven't used it since 4
[08:19] <dromer> hmm, I just had to boot into windows again, but I couldn't and got an "Error 13". how can I fix this?
[08:21] <fdoving> dromer: have a look at forexample: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=371087
[08:21] <ninina_> anyone know how secure K Remote Desktop is?
[08:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: bash: chroot /mnt/sda1/: No such file or directory
[08:22] <fdoving> Kite_DH: so, it isn't mounted anymore?
[08:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i mount it again
[08:22] <fdoving> ninina_: like vnc.
[08:22] <fdoving> Kite_DH: mount it, and run 'chroot /<mountpoint>' as root.
[08:22] <ninina_> fdoving: and that ish?
[08:23] <Kite_DH> fdoving: wait, im still mounted
[08:23] <logixoul> hi. konq 3.5.6 in feisty freezes all the time for no visible reason. each time it takes about 10 seconds to unfreeze. I think it may be related to plugins. any hints?
[08:23] <fdoving> ninina_: not secure at all. no encrypted traffic etc.
[08:23] <Kite_DH> fdoving: still says that
[08:23] <fdoving> logixoul: any processes using 100% cpu?
[08:23] <fdoving> logixoul: ctrl-esc wil ltell you.
[08:23] <ninina_> fdoving: =\ well I guess that idea doesn't work out
[08:24] <fdoving> Kite_DH: is your mountpoint correct? - check mountpount with 'cat /proc/mounts'
[08:24] <dromer> fdoving: wel, it worked fine before and I have totally no idea what could have changed
[08:24] <logixoul> fdoving: nope, max is 5%
[08:24] <fdoving> ninina_: you can run it though an ssh tunnel.
[08:24] <fdoving> logixoul: i mena when it's "freezing"..
[08:24] <Kite_DH> fdoving: /dev/sda1 / ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
[08:25] <ninina_> fdoving: ssh isn't very secure either though
[08:25] <fdoving> Kite_DH: so you have rebooted?
[08:25] <Kite_DH> fdoving: when?
[08:25] <Kite_DH> fdoving: no
[08:25] <fdoving> ninina_: it isn't?
[08:25] <logixoul> fdoving: right, it was frozen when I checked
[08:25] <ninina_> fdoving: no from what I've heard
[08:26] <fdoving> ninina_: well, it is pretty secure.
[08:26] <logixoul> fdoving: ah I think I found it - a zombie amarokapp process. thx.
[08:26] <ninina_> fdoving: well I'm gonna read up on it, so I'll be back with my oppinion in a few
[08:27] <neverblue> i have just setup my system to run duals, I am having an issue with changing the res on the second screen (SiS 300 + ATI Rage), I edited my xorg.conf to only have "higher" res, but its falling on 800x600, anything I can do to change it?
[08:27] <fdoving> Kite_DH: hmm.. ok. 'mkdir /newroot && mount /dev/sda1 /newroot && chroot /newroot' (you can copy everything inside the ''s.
[08:27] <Kite_DH> fdoving: but im already mounted
[08:29] <Kite_DH> fdoving:
[08:29] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:~# chroot /mnt/sda1
[08:29] <Kite_DH> root@ubuntu:/#
[08:29] <Kite_DH> fdoving: and what now?
[08:30] <fdoving> Kite_DH: now you're running with / beeing your linux /. so 'aptitude update;aptitude dist-upgrade' - does it want to update alot of pckages?
[08:30] <HymnToLife> w00t, KDE 3.5.7 out
[08:30] <ses1959_> thank you ubotu
[08:30] <Kite_DH> fdoving: yes
[08:30] <ses1959_> i found my mistake all it needed was ./INSTALL to install the program
[08:30] <Kite_DH> fdoving: but does it update the installed system on my HD?
[08:30] <sephnroth> umm, i appear to of got my mouse trapped in a frozen "xracer" window
[08:31] <Kite_DH> fdoving: not the live-cd
[08:31] <ses1959_> but not it does not work and ran under term
[08:31] <sephnroth> how can i force it to close? alt+f4 and ctrl+c no helping
[08:31] <Osiris_> hello everyone
[08:31] <Osiris_> i came on earlier
[08:31] <Osiris_> i had problems installing kubuntu
[08:32] <Osiris_> it was freezing at the part where it tried to see how to partition my hard drive
[08:32] <Osiris_> at least thats what i assume it was doing ;p
[08:32] <ses1959_> libgdk_pixbuf_xlib-2.0.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64  this it the error code i have install some of the libgdk with manager program
[08:33] <dave_> hey guys
[08:33] <dave_> how do i launch a second instance of the same application?
[08:33] <iliya> Hi, I have XP and Kubuntu 6.06 instaled
[08:33] <iliya> but acedently i boot from XP cd, and he removed Grub
[08:33] <iliya> now it's NT loader and he dont see Kubuntu
[08:33] <iliya> How to install Grub again?
[08:33] <iliya> From live Kubuintu CD won't mount hda6:
[08:33] <iliya> mount /proc
[08:33] <iliya> sudo -i
[08:33] <fdoving> Kite_DH: yes, that's what teh 'chroot' command is for.
[08:33] <iliya> mount media/dev/hda6  (can't find /media/dev/hda6 in /stc/fstab)
[08:33] <Kite_DH> iliya: lol
[08:33] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok, ill let it update then, right?
[08:33] <iliya> sorry
[08:33] <K-Ryan> Wow
[08:34] <sephnroth> switchin back to windows for a bit
[08:34] <sephnroth> brb
[08:34] <K-Ryan> And I thought I was bad at separating my speech.
[08:34] <muaddib> man, i don't remember compiling anything and having it take this long, going on 8 minutes installing kopete from source
[08:34] <K-Ryan> Well, "with"
[08:34] <iliya> :)
[08:34] <K-Ryan> !grub | illiya
[08:34] <ubotu> illiya: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:34] <iliya> help please
[08:34] <K-Ryan> Follow the first link
[08:34] <iliya> ok
[08:34] <iliya> thanks
[08:35] <K-Ryan> No problem ;)
[08:35] <fdoving> Kite_DH: you can, or you can run fsck manually from the livecd, then reboot and make it update the proper way. you can also try to hit ctrl-alt-del when it "stops" during boot. it's preferred to be running the system one is upgrading.
[08:35] <Kite_DH> fdoving: the dist-upgrade runs now
[08:35] <pisq> AmyRose, which KDE you running?
[08:35] <ninina_> fdoving: I SSH will work I guess
[08:36] <Osiris_> anyone?
[08:36] <Kite_DH> fdoving: how to break it up
[08:36] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ctrl-c
[08:36] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok, how to ru the fsck now
[08:37] <dave_> anyone know how to run 2 instances of kopete?
[08:37] <fdoving> Kite_DH: 'exit' to exit from the chroot, then 'umount -l /mnt/sda1' then 'e2fsck -f /dev/sda1'
[08:38] <Ayabara> I need a dual monitor clone setup to connect my laptop to my tv. would you recommend the open source driver with xinerama or the restricted ati driver?
[08:38] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok it runs
[08:38] <fdoving> dave_: you can't as one user.
[08:38] <muaddib> dave_: i don't think you can run two instances, but it supports more than one account at a time, so why would you need to?
[08:39] <fdoving> Kite_DH: good, when it's finished, reboot and try to boot kubuntu the normal way.
[08:39] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay
[08:39] <Kite_DH> fdoving: if that doesnt work, do we need to mount the sda1 again, and make a dist-upgrade?
[08:39] <dave_> i was just curious - i read a tutorial about gtalk that said to 3-way call you must have two instances running (in windows)
[08:39] <dave_> but i was then just curious on how to do 2 instances in linux of any program
[08:39] <fdoving> Kite_DH: yes, that's an option. but remember, you can try to hit ctrl-alt-del if it "hangs" during the boot process.
[08:40] <Kite_DH> fdoving: alright, i'll remind that
[08:40] <muaddib> dave_: interesting, maybe when this gets around to finishing i'll see if i can figure that out
[08:40] <dave_> ok cool thanks
[08:40] <chenxfei> I'm in
[08:41] <K-Ryan> Hehehe
[08:41] <chenxfei> hi
[08:41] <K-Ryan> Hi there
[08:41] <chenxfei> there
[08:41] <chenxfei> where u are
[08:42] <K-Ryan> ?
[08:42] <chenxfei> where are u?
[08:42] <chenxfei> hehe
[08:42] <K-Ryan> Okay okay
[08:42] <chenxfei> ?
[08:42] <K-Ryan> Need help with something?
[08:42] <Kite_DH> fdoving: takes a while, doesnt it?
[08:43] <fdoving> Kite_DH: probably.
[08:43] <fdoving> Kite_DH: don't sit there waiting for it, play a game or something, kmahjongg is cool .)
[08:43] <chenxfei> i want to install a new kubuntu in my pc, but i hasn't the cd of kubuntu
[08:43] <Kite_DH> fdoving: hahaha
[08:43] <chenxfei> how can i
[08:44] <K-Ryan> http://shipit.kubuntu.org
[08:44] <timmay> how do you just upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu feisty fawn?
[08:44] <K-Ryan> You can order from there
[08:44] <chenxfei> OK,thank u
[08:44] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[08:44] <sercik> someone i able to install beryl on kubuntu with nvidia?? i have followed all possible online guide but it don't work
[08:44] <K-Ryan> sercik
[08:44] <K-Ryan> Yes you can, have you installed you drivers yet?
[08:44] <chenxfei> OK
[08:44] <chenxfei> yes
[08:44] <sercik> Hi K-Ryan are you new on this channel??
[08:44] <K-Ryan> No
[08:45] <chenxfei> but i hasn't  .ISO
[08:45] <Osiris207> back again
[08:45] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok its done
[08:45] <K-Ryan> chenxfei: You order a CD, they send you it.
[08:45] <K-Ryan> In the mail
[08:45] <fdoving> Kite_DH: then try rebooting.
[08:45] <Osiris207> so does anyone have any idea why kubuntu does install for me?
[08:45] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok see
[08:45] <chenxfei> i have a tey
[08:45] <Kite_DH> fdoving: ok see ya in a fewmin*
[08:45] <fdoving> Kite_DH: i'll be around.
[08:45] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: You mean it doesn't install?
[08:45] <Osiris207> doesnt**
[08:46] <Osiris207> yes it doesnt
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Are you getting any error messages?
[08:46] <Osiris207> (double negative)
[08:46] <Osiris207> no i dont
[08:46] <Osiris207> i just freezes...
[08:46] <sercik> My X crashes sorry for repeat someone is able to install beryl on kubuntu with nvidia??
[08:46] <larisca> ce pula mea bazarit?
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Strange...
[08:46] <Osiris207> not as in the windows sense of crashing , but as in it sits there for hours doing nothing
[08:46] <larisca> pe ce limba?
[08:46] <larisca> pidarilor
[08:46] <K-Ryan> sercik: Have you installed the drivers for your card?
[08:46] <Osiris207> perhaps i am being inpaitent
[08:47] <sercik> Yes K-ryan i'm not noob
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Not everyone knows how to, that they need to, or even how to do it correctly.
[08:47] <sercik> i have installed thw last drivers from nvidia and 3d works good
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Excuse me for trying to help.
[08:47] <djwisdom> Osiris207: check your cmos default values, tweaking with it sometimes makes linux irritable.
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Okay then, have you installed the beryl and emerald-themes package?
[08:47] <sercik> K-Ryan: not excuse i have told only so you can know on who are speaking!
[08:48] <hakaisou> note to self
[08:48] <sercik> yes i have tried with latest SVN from trevino repository and from beryl ubuntu
[08:48] <K-Ryan> sercik: What's is your native language?
[08:48] <sercik> italian
[08:48] <hangthedj> anybody getting errors after upgrading to kde 3.5.7
[08:48] <Osiris207> hmmm , as in over cloaking you mean ? it goes to the bit where it looks at your partitions , and it just..sits there.. see i cleared a whole mass of space for linux to go on , unformatted space
[08:48] <K-Ryan> !italian | sercik
[08:48] <ubotu> sercik: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:48] <hakaisou> NEVER EVER EVER use Ctrl+A in Adept Manager
[08:48] <K-Ryan> hakaisou: What's ctrl+a do in Adept?
[08:48] <sercik> i'm talking in english
[08:48] <sercik> or i'm trying
[08:48] <hakaisou> selects everything
[08:48] <grurf> Hello
[08:48] <hakaisou> regardless of your filter
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Well it was a little hard for me to understand you sercik, it was only a suggestion.
[08:49] <K-Ryan> hakaisou: I'll remember not to do that now =P
[08:49] <hakaisou> so when i went to remove my freetype packages, it started removing EVERYTHING
[08:49] <djdarkman> hy, what is kaccess ?
[08:49] <sercik> sorry K-ryan
[08:49] <K-Ryan> It is okay
[08:49] <sercik> so i have installed drivers and beryl packages
[08:49] <hakaisou> what is beryl anyway?
[08:49] <sercik> when i try to start with beryl manager kdm restarts
[08:49] <K-Ryan> When you try to open Beryl, X crashes?
[08:49] <K-Ryan> !beryl | hakaisou
[08:49] <ubotu> hakaisou: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:50] <grurf> After an upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, the middle mouse button of this computer doesn't function correctly anymore. Scrolling works, but clicking doesn't. Is this a known problem? Any suggestions?
[08:50] <K-Ryan> (It's pretty effects for your desktop(s) )
[08:50] <djwisdom> Osiris207: question: were you able to successfully load and play with kubuntu live cd?
[08:50] <sercik> Yes and kdm restart
[08:50] <Osiris207> djwisdom: yes i was
[08:50] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: Sorry I kind of abandoned you there =/
[08:50] <djwisdom> Osiris207: what program did you use to clear your hard drive, or is this a brand new one?
[08:51] <K-Ryan> sercik: You may want to try the #ubuntu-effects channel.
[08:51] <Osiris207> well my whole pc is new , but i used partition magic to clear the space for linux
[08:51] <Frederick> folks how can I re-start my sound system?
[08:51] <sercik> #ubuntu-effects
[08:51] <K-Ryan> Click it sercik =P
[08:51] <sercik> Thanl you K-Ryan
[08:51] <K-Ryan> I hope they can help you.
[08:51] <sercik> i hope also
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Might take time, but I'm sure they will.
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Good luck
[08:52] <djwisdom> Osiris270: and were playing around with how many  GB of brand new hard drive? 120GB?
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: You know that the installer includes a partitioner, that you don't need to use a program to do it.
[08:53] <Osiris207> 60gb unfomratted for linux
[08:53] <Osiris207> 100 gb , being used by windows xp
[08:53] <Osiris207> so 160 in all
[08:53] <djwisdom> Osiris207: are you using IDE, EIDE, SATA or SCSI?
[08:53] <Osiris207> SATA
[08:53] <djwisdom> tsk.
[08:53] <Osiris207> ???
[08:54] <Roey> hi
[08:54] <K-Ryan> Hi there!
[08:54] <djwisdom> i hope i'm wrong, but SATA under linux is not as rock solid as IDE
[08:54] <Roey> Does Kubuntu's glibc support running 32-bit programs in 64-bit environments?
[08:54] <Roey> Debian Proper doesn't.
[08:54] <Roey> arg.
[08:55] <Osiris207> perhaps not , but ubuntu likes it , opesuse likes it.. yet kubuntu just sits there
[08:55] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure myself, but stick around I'm sure someone knows.
[08:55] <Osiris207> perhaps i am being impatiant
[08:55] <Kite_DH> fdoving: didnt work
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Osiris207: You could try installing Ubuntu, then upgrading it to Kubuntu
[08:55] <Osiris207> you can do that ?
[08:55] <djwisdom> that might work.
[08:55] <Kite_DH> fdoving: oh crap...i forgot the ctrl+alt+del thing
[08:55] <fdoving> Kite_DH: what does it stop at? - did it start fsck?
[08:55] <K-Ryan> Yep, you can.
[08:56] <Kite_DH> fdoving: the fsck is always done, then afterwards it stands like this
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I don't remember the process exactly, but I know you can.
[08:56] <Kite_DH> fdoving: as you saw in the pastebin
[08:56] <Osiris207> problem is , i have the latest version of kubuntu and it doesnt detect my wifi
[08:56] <Osiris207> where as , the older version does
[08:56] <Osiris207> bloody stupid if you ask me lol
[08:56] <K-Ryan> You need to install ndiswrapper if I'm not mistaken.
[08:56] <Osiris207> its gone back in time ;p
[08:56] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should we try the dist-upgrade?
[08:56] <K-Ryan> I'm not experienced with wifi setup, although I should be by now...
[08:57] <fdoving> Kite_DH: that's an option, did you manage to upgrade anything at all before rebooting the -first- time? - do you have older kernels in the grub list? - did you try booting one of those?
[08:57] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i have older kernels in there
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i didnt try booting one of them
[08:58] <Osiris207> i hope upgrading from ubuntu to kubuntu is ok , cos i dont liek gnome at all
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: lets dist-upgrade now, what was the cmd again?
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should i mount first?
[08:58] <fdoving> Kite_DH: try that first. then if that fails try one of the recovery options. (older is better chance of working)
[08:58] <Kite_DH> fdoving: recovery options??
[08:58] <fdoving> Kite_DH: i'd recommend to try atleast one of the other kernels first. then dist-upgrade if it doesn't work.
[08:59] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay
[08:59] <hakaisou> uggh... this is totally screwed...
[08:59] <Kite_DH> fdoving: now?
[08:59] <Osiris207> why would the new version of kubuntu not pick up my wifi card , but thje older version does?
[09:00] <fdoving> Kite_DH: reboot and try to boot one of the older kernels.
[09:00] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay
[09:00] <hakaisou> well... gives me a chance to finally reinstall kubuntu fresh and fix my damn partitions
[09:01] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i think its not gonna work
[09:01] <Kite_DH> fdoving: hm..shouldnt we dist-upgrade first, it really sounds better =/
[09:02] <fdoving> Kite_DH: dist-upgrading inside a chroot like that might make problems configuring your packages, making initrd images might break hard etc. it's not recommended.
[09:02] <Kite_DH> fdoving: lets just ty the kernel thing first
[09:02] <Kite_DH> fdoving: :)
[09:03] <[GNR] Maxou> hi everybody> someone could help me? i'm trying to install Planeshift but i get "Erreur de segmentation (core dumped)"
[09:03] <Rictoo> how do I print an entire text file to command line again>?
[09:03] <nuu> hey fdoving. not sure if you remember us talking about hal policy files not being parsed, turned out it probably is a hal bug under ubuntu
[09:04] <nuu> i spoke to the package maintainer and he asked me to file a bug about it, because hal is supposed to parse /etc/hal
[09:04] <fdoving> nuu: i remember, great. then it'll be handled. it really should include the /etc/hal, yes.
[09:05] <[GNR] Maxou> nobody for Planeshift?
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Hmm
[09:06] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  wb
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Not sure [GNR] Maxou, give me a minute I'll see if I can install it.
[09:06] <K-Ryan> Thank you hendaus, ever fix your problem?
[09:07] <ninina_> fdoving: what ssh server should I use?
[09:07] <hendaus> K-Ryan: yes now i am using feisty, upgrade dapper --> edgy --> feisty :)
[09:07] <fdoving> ninina_: openssh-server
[09:07] <K-Ryan> Ah, that's great!
[09:07] <ninina_> fdoving: Okies la~
[09:07] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan>thx
[09:08] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  yes nice, but i open video clip with kaffeine and it needs a plugin
[09:08] <K-Ryan> Strange, I never needed to get more than libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  maybe i dont have it installed
[09:09] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:09] <K-Ryan> ;)
[09:09] <K-Ryan> [GNR] Maxou: I'm not sure about the file type, I've yet to use a .bin file, I think...
[09:09] <K-Ryan> I'm going to download and try anyway.
[09:10] <K-Ryan> If anything you can always compilet the source.
[09:10] <K-Ryan> *compile
[09:11] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another pack age , This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:11] <hendaus> is only available from another source
[09:11] <K-Ryan> Have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[09:11] <K-Ryan> It's in one of those, hold on
[09:11] <K-Ryan> !libxine-extracodecs
[09:12] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> ok but how do you do that
[09:12] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  i dont know where to enable universe and multi
[09:12] <K-Ryan> [GNR] Maxou: Don't worry about that yet =P
[09:12] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Open up Adept
[09:12] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok
[09:12] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan: ok
[09:13] <K-Ryan> The bot doesn't seem to have information on the package..
[09:13] <[GNR] Maxou> lol
[09:13] <K-Ryan> So we'll just enable both.
[09:13] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok i open adept, and then
[09:13] <timmay> can skype run in kopete?
[09:13] <hakaisou> no
[09:13] <timmay> dang
[09:13] <hakaisou> but you can install skype in linux
[09:13] <K-Ryan> Can only run skype in skype if I'm not mistaken.
[09:14] <timmay> ok cool
[09:14] <timmay> i'll go do thta then
[09:14] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Under Adept, click manage repositories.
[09:14] <[GNR] Maxou> timmay> use medibuntu
[09:14] <K-Ryan> timmay: You know to install it from it's package not an installer right?
[09:14] <[GNR] Maxou> timmay> there's a package
[09:14] <K-Ryan> !skype | timmay
[09:14] <ubotu> timmay: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:15] <K-Ryan> Woo! Go freenode!
[09:15] <hakaisou> yay
[09:16] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Under manage repositories, check the universe and multiverse boxes.
[09:17] <timmay> hey when i go into add/remove i'm getting an error after putting in my password that say "conversation with su failed" any ideas?
[09:17] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  ok
[09:18] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Now you can either search it in Adept, or go back to the terminal
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Either way you want libxine-extracodecs
[09:18] <K-Ryan> In Adept you just search it, click it, request install, apply changes
[09:18] <K-Ryan> The terminal command:
[09:19] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:19] <K-Ryan> That'll do it.
[09:19] <Kite_DH> fdoving: didnt work
[09:19] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should we try the dist-upgrade now?
[09:20] <hendaus> K-Ryan: i open manage repositories and it open a dialog -> software sources
[09:20] <K-Ryan> Yeah under the manage repositories, check the two boxes for universe and multiverse.
[09:20] <kim_> Em... Anyone used Ardour?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> !Ardour
[09:20] <kim_> ok?
[09:20] <kim_> Em..
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ardour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  they are checked
[09:21] <K-Ryan> That's what I was waiting for kim_ =P
[09:21] <K-Ryan> Sorry, I don't, stick around though I'm sure someone does.
[09:21] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Alright now try to install libxine-extracodecs again
[09:21] <fdoving> Kite_DH: how long do you wait? does hitting num lock or caps lock toggle the keyboard led?
[09:21] <hendaus> ok
[09:21] <kim_> I have some problem, when i klick ardour after installing 32 from http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=860 The icon jumps but the program wont start
[09:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i waited a little time, the fsck message was gone, but the thing that comes after that is still there, and it wont go away
[09:22] <Kite_DH> fdoving: i tried ctrl+alt+del and nothing happened
[09:22] <K-Ryan> [GNR] Maxou: You still here?
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> yeah, that's okay i was trying to install it with sudo ./*.bin
[09:23] <K-Ryan> No I've got it
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> and not as root
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> K-Ryan> now it works
[09:23] <K-Ryan> You need to right click the installer, properties, permissions, then check "executable"
[09:23] <Lennings> Talkin to me?
[09:23] <[GNR] Maxou> yes chmod +x ?
[09:23] <Lennings> sry
[09:23] <Kite_DH> fdoving: only that is left now http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1095
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Yes =P
[09:24] <underdog5004> I had a hard-drive failure on my server. before it crashed, rtorrent would stick downloaded files in /media/storage/.../downloads. Now when I reinstalled, rtorrent is looking for the path to the old download place (/media/storage/.../downloads), even though I've specified /home/matthew/.../downloads/ for the current completed downloads folder. Any ideas?
[09:24] <luca> hi everyone
[09:24] <jbnet> I added the KDE 3.5.7 source, but the new KDevelop doesn't seem to be in there
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Hello again luca!
[09:24] <luca> hi K-Ryan :)
[09:24] <Lennings> How do i install ''using ALSA-supported audio interfaces'' Thats what a program i want to install says i need. Anyone?
[09:24] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: You're sure the download path is set to /home/matthew/.....
[09:24] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  yes i found it on adept and it is installing, thanx
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Yes?
[09:24] <fdoving> Kite_DH: ok. open a konsole, become root. 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/' then 'mount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/tmp' then 'mount -t none -o bind /dev /tmp/dev' then 'mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc' then 'chroot /mnt/' then 'aptitude dist-upgrade'
[09:24] <K-Ryan> You're welcome hendaus
[09:24] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, yes sir
[09:25] <underdog5004> I set it perm. in the .rtorrent.rc config file
[09:25] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[09:25] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  brb .. lunch time and back for u
[09:25] <luca> can someone help me configuring properly kmail? I want to have every mail account bound to a specific smtp server
[09:25] <K-Ryan> hendaus: Enjoy lunch =P
[09:25] <hendaus> thanx :)
[09:25] <hakaisou> god... this is really screwed......
[09:25] <hakaisou> i can't find any method of data backup that still works
[09:25] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: I'm not familiar with rtorrent but I'm sure someone around here is so stick around and ask around.
[09:25] <Kite_DH> fdoving: is 'chroot /mnt/sda1' then 'aptitude dist-upgrade' ok too?
[09:26] <Lennings> How do i install ''using ALSA-supported audio interfaces'' Thats what a program i want to install says i need. Anyone?
[09:26] <underdog5004> alrighty
[09:26] <Lennings> Where do i find alsa drivers
[09:26] <K-Ryan> !alsa
[09:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:26] <hakaisou> !alsa | Lennings
[09:26] <ubotu> Lennings: please see above
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Beat ya' =P
[09:26] <hakaisou> bah
[09:26] <Lennings> im confused.
[09:26] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, maybe it's the meta-data that's stuck on the files themselves? is there any way to change that?
[09:26] <K-Ryan> Check those links
[09:26] <Lennings> Im new in kubuntu
[09:27] <Kite_DH> Lennings: welcome
[09:27] <Lennings> alright
[09:27] <Kite_DH> Lennings: to heaven
[09:27] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: I'm not sure
[09:27] <underdog5004> oh, wait...maybe it's the last session it's trying to load...h/o
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Welcome to the other side.
[09:27] <Lennings> kite_dh: ah :P
[09:27] <hakaisou> welcome... to the REAL world
[09:27] <hakaisou> XD
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Hehehe
[09:27] <K-Ryan> Second Matrix line within the past hour.
[09:27] <hakaisou> what other cheesy welcomes can we come up with
[09:28] <Kite_DH> fdoving: dist-upgrade is now running
[09:28] <fdoving> Kite_DH: then you need to change all the mount commands to /mnt/sda1/<thing> accordingly.. but yes.
[09:28] <hakaisou> I'm boned.
[09:28] <Lennings> Brb, im gonna reboot... MB the program will work then
[09:28] <Kite_DH> hakaisou: ew
[09:28] <K-Ryan> Well I was reading a bunch of Linux-y type quotes.
[09:28] <K-Ryan> Kite_DH: I don't think that's what he meant...
[09:28] <Kite_DH> K-Ryan: haha :)
[09:28] <hakaisou> Either I lose some of my data, or I lose a different some of my data
[09:28] <hakaisou> i can't back up anything!
[09:29] <K-Ryan> One of my favorites was "Ignorance is bliss, no wonder so many people are happy with Windows!"
 I just had to delete the old session that it was loading from and reload all the torrents. nice and easy, considering that I was about to rm -rf downloads/*.* lol, 136Gb would have taken awhile
[09:29] <K-Ryan> Or "Linux is like air conditioners, they stop working when you open Windows"
[09:29] <hakaisou> ctrl-alt-backspace == 5 second reboot
[09:29] <K-Ryan> Glad I could kind of help underdog5004 ;)
[09:30] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[09:30] <underdog5004> have a good one, K-Ryan
[09:30] <K-Ryan> You too
[09:30] <K-Ryan> Hi there zoohouse!
[09:30] <hakaisou> sigh...
[09:30] <Lennings> Gah! Ardour wont start when i click the icon... Gah
[09:30] <hakaisou> would there be a log for the packages that got removed that I could access?
[09:31] <K-Ryan> I don't think there is a log for package adding/removal.
[09:31] <bobleny> Any one know of a linux based data recovery software for bad floppy disks?
[09:31] <hakaisou> ;
[09:31] <K-Ryan> I remember someone asking about a log of packages being added.
[09:31] <hakaisou> ;_;
[09:31] <drkns> hello
[09:31] <K-Ryan> Hi drkns!
[09:31] <hakaisou> bobleny: yea it's called a flashdrive  XD
[09:31] <drkns> i have this .386.rpm file that i want to compile
[09:31] <drkns> how can i do this?
[09:31] <hakaisou> seriously thouhg, i don't know
[09:32] <zoohouse> I am having trouble getting the outside world to see my vncserver... I have my computer connected directly to my DSL modem and using firestarter, I have the firewall disabled. Yet I can't connect to my vncserver using my public ip yet my local ip works fine. when I use canyouseeme.org it say "connection timed out" What may be wrong?
[09:32] <K-Ryan> I'm not very familiar with compiling but let's see what the bot has to say.
[09:32] <K-Ryan> !compile
[09:32] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:32] <K-Ryan> I don't think that's what you're looking for, but you can try,
[09:32] <bobleny> hakaisou: I know, thats why I dont use floppys, normally...
[09:32] <K-Ryan> Otherwise stick around in the channel, someone is bound to be able to help.
[09:32] <drkns> k-ryan i will try
[09:32] <bobleny> Any one know of a linux based data recovery software for bad floppy disks?
[09:32] <drkns> thx
[09:33] <K-Ryan> You're welcome.
[09:33] <|ericsson|> Anyone know how to get java?
[09:33] <K-Ryan> !java
[09:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:33] <|ericsson|> thnx K-Ryan
[09:33] <K-Ryan> You're welcome ;)
[09:33] <K-Ryan> zoohouse: I know it may sound funny, but you might want to try port forwarding if you are behind a router.
[09:34] <drkns> thats not it but i think i found smtg else on the net thx anyways
[09:34] <navets>  does anyone here know if you have to have a mac to run a virtual mac os on linux or can you do it with a pc
[09:34] <K-Ryan> My router has a built in firewall that "supposedly you can shut down", I always end up having to forward the ports though.
[09:34] <zoohouse> K-Ryan: but I am connected directly to the modem, i disconnected the router all together.
[09:34] <bkudria> is there any sort ETA for (semi) official kdevelop 3.4.1 packages?
[09:34] <K-Ryan> Then I'm not sure
[09:34] <drkns> zoohouse do you have a dnsserver set up?
[09:35] <drkns> or your dns servers are advertising the ips that you want to use?
[09:35] <K-Ryan> navets: You can probably run a virtual mac on Linux.
[09:35] <hakaisou> quick!  software that can blast an NTFS partition and reformat it into a linux compatable format!
[09:35] <K-Ryan> Gparted
[09:35] <hakaisou> thank you!
[09:35] <bkudria> ntfs is linux compatible - sorta
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Read only
[09:36] <navets> K-Ryan: k thanks
[09:36] <nuu> no, read-write
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Writing is another story..
[09:36] <K-Ryan> Write is possible, not recommended.
[09:36] <K-Ryan> You're welcome navets.
[09:36] <hakaisou> i know that
[09:36] <hakaisou> i just need to blast the partition
[09:36] <nuu> it wasn't recommended once...nowadays ntfs-3g is pretty stable
[09:37] <hakaisou> just want to get rid of the partition
[09:38] <nuu> hakaisou: then K-Ryan already answered :)
[09:38] <zoohouse> drkns: no...
[09:38] <hakaisou> i know
[09:38] <hakaisou> installing it already
[09:38] <hakaisou> :D
[09:38] <hakaisou> i love apt-get
[09:38] <hakaisou> :hugs his CLI:
[09:38] <K-Ryan> I've gotten 8 thank yous this session, =)
[09:39] <K-Ryan> That's more than 1 every 10 minutes.
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Or about that...
[09:39] <nuu> K-Ryan ;)
[09:39] <K-Ryan> Yeah a little over 10 minutes =)
[09:39] <K-Ryan> I'm on a roll today.
[09:40] <zoohouse> drkns: I would need a dnsserver?
[09:40] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, do you know how to make sure that ssh is started on boot? I'm running a headless server and it's a huge hassle to [dis|re] connect my monitor.
[09:40] <bkudria> is there any sort ETA for (semi) official kdevelop 3.4.1 packages?
[09:40] <hakaisou> wow...
[09:40] <hakaisou> this is gonna take a bit
[09:40] <nuu> underdog5004: use update-rc.d or rcconf
[09:40] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: To be honest, I don't know what ssh is =P
[09:40] <hakaisou> secure shell, mirite?
[09:40] <underdog5004> !ssh > K-Ryan
[09:41] <underdog5004> nuu, update-rc.d ssh   ?
[09:41] <nuu> underdog5004: sudo apt-get install rcconf && sudo rcconf
[09:41] <K-Ryan> Oh it's a remote connection kind of thing.
[09:41] <underdog5004> nuu, thanks
[09:41] <chris_scummette> hi everybody
[09:41] <nuu> you'll figure it out easily from there
[09:42] <K-Ryan> Hi there chris_scummette!
[09:42] <timmay> !skype
[09:42] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:43] <K-Ryan> Wow
[09:43] <K-Ryan> Has anyone ever just typed "find" in their terminal?
[09:43] <nuu> find is one of the most useful tools ever ;)
[09:43] <K-Ryan> brb
[09:44] <hakaisou> XD at find
[09:44] <hakaisou> find EVERYTHING!!!!!!
[09:44] <hakaisou> if ever i wanted to see everything on my harddrive at light speed, that was the way to do it
[09:44] <LjL> K-Ryan: not alone. sometimes find | wc -l
[09:45] <hakaisou> you can have that be logged can't you?
[09:45] <hakaisou> like into a text file?
[09:45] <nuu> use >
[09:45] <hakaisou> thought so
[09:45] <hakaisou> that makes it good to use as a file inventory then
[09:46] <zoohouse> f
[09:46] <nuu> hakaisou: file inventory how ?
[09:47] <nuu> what's the purpose of listing all files on your disk :)
[09:47] <hakaisou> none really
[09:47] <drkns> ok thse things wont work
[09:47] <nuu> i see ;)
[09:47] <hakaisou> but then again...
[09:47] <drkns> i am trying to install this package
[09:47] <hakaisou> whats the purpose of setting up dual boots?
[09:47] <nuu> but then again, this is linux and now you're FREE!
[09:47] <nuu> free to hack around :P
[09:48] <drkns> barry-0.1-1bcharge.i386.rpm and under the directory i use rpm -i file name
[09:48] <luca> about hacking...
[09:48] <drkns> but this wont work
[09:48] <luca> I have a problem with bibus, a python application :D
[09:48] <hakaisou> 99% of dual boot users will rarely or never use the secondary OS's in a dual boot system
[09:49] <nuu> hakaisou: you generally use find to, say, delete files older than x days, or perform repeated actions on every file matching a given pattern in its filename, and such
[09:49] <underdog5004> nuu, hmm, there was no option for ssh
[09:49] <nuu> underdog5004: did you install openssh-server ?
[09:49] <luca> when I tell it to open a file of the bibliography (added the url in the tags of the biblio item) it calls firefox...and instead of opening file:///etc. it does file:///home/luca/"file:///etc."
[09:49] <underdog5004> nuu, yep
[09:49] <hakaisou> then i just thought of a good use for it then
[09:49] <hakaisou> i read lots of comics right?
[09:49] <luca> obviously nothing opens out of the box, dunno how to debug it :)
[09:50] <|lostbyte|> where can i find the tunctrl command in ?
[09:50] <hakaisou> but unzipping into individual chapters is annoying
[09:50] <hakaisou> MASS RENAMES FTW!!!!
[09:50] <nuu> underdog5004: ls -l /etc/init.d | grep ssh
[09:50] <nuu> hakaisou :)
[09:51] <underdog5004> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2016 2006-10-05 02:43 ssh
[09:51] <hakaisou> lets see if amarok still works
[09:51] <hakaisou> yay!  it does
[09:51] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  whats up
[09:51] <hakaisou> lets see if i still got mp3 support
[09:51] <underdog5004> nuu, when I sudo apt-get install openssh-server, it says that it's already the newest version
[09:52] <nuu> underdog5004: and when you start sudo rcconf, you don't see a "ssh" in the list ?
[09:52] <nuu> you tried scrolling down using your arrow keys toO ?
[09:53] <underdog5004> nuu, nope, and yes
[09:53] <underdog5004> I'm on ubuntu 6.10, server.
[09:54] <K-Ryan> I'm back
[09:54] <hakaisou> i swear if i don't get some power metal right the hell now...
[09:54] <nuu> underdog5004: try sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[09:55] <muaddib> they have the relevant KDE repositories for fiesty up yet?
[09:55] <K-Ryan> Had someone here to spray my backyard for fleas & ticks so I had to point it out and yeah...
[09:55] <underdog5004> it says:  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ssh already exist.
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> muaddib: for 3.5.7?
[09:55] <hakaisou> thank you Powerman 5000
[09:55] <underdog5004> so, it'll come up automatically already?
[09:55] <hakaisou> you keep me from thrashing stuff
[09:55] <nuu> underdog5004: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/ | grep ssh
[09:55] <underdog5004> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  13 2007-05-22 02:39 S20ssh -> ../init.d/ssh
[09:55] <muaddib> Daisuke_Ido yeah
[09:56] <nuu> good, it's already set to automatically start :)
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> muaddib: they've been up for at least hours
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm already running it :)
[09:56] <muaddib> Daisuke_Ido neat, was just about to install Fiesty again, got my computer working fine and I've got nothing to fix at the moment
[09:57] <nuu> underdog5004: strange that rcconf fails to detect it though. Not that it matters, but would you try sudo update-rcconf-guide && sudo rcconf ?
[09:57] <nuu> and see if it's there
[09:57] <underdog5004> sure, h/o
[09:57] <K-Ryan> !planeshift
[09:58] <underdog5004> nuu, still nothing regarding ssh
[09:58] <underdog5004> not a biggie, though
[09:58] <underdog5004> thanks for the help
[09:58] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to launch Planeshift?
[09:58] <LjL> !find tunctrl | |lostbyte|
[09:58] <underdog5004> K-Ryan, what is it?
[09:58] <nuu> what do you see there underdog5004 ?
[09:59] <K-Ryan> http://www.planeshift.it
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> LjL, done that first.. nothing.
[09:59] <nuu> underdog5004: it's still a misbehavior on rcconf's side
[09:59] <K-Ryan> MMORPG
[09:59] <Osiris207> heya everyone\
[09:59] <Osiris207> i got kubuntu to install
[09:59] <K-Ryan> Ah, that's good.
[09:59] <Osiris207> but i had to use the new version of kubuntu that doesnt seem to like my wifi card
[09:59] <K-Ryan> That can be fixed though.
[09:59] <Osiris207> its wierd , in kinfo you can see thew wifi card is there
[09:59] <underdog5004> nuu, umm, just shut it down, but from what I can recall: apache, 2-3 mysql things, hdparm, and 3-4 bootclean? entries
[09:59] <Osiris207> it says , realtek wireless lan controller
[09:59] <LjL> |lostbyte|: then it's not available in any package.
[10:00] <K-Ryan> Be right back again.
[10:00] <Osiris207> but doesnt show up in the network devices
[10:00] <Osiris207> ok
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> :(
[10:02] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  wb
[10:02] <Osiris207> wb
[10:02] <hakaisou> how do i unmount a drive?
[10:03] <nuu> umount mountpoint or partition
[10:03] <timmay> get off it'
[10:03] <Osiris207> lol
[10:03] <timmay> unmount and whatever drive it is
[10:03] <Osiris207> so anyone here good with wifi ?
[10:04] <nuu> !ask | Osiris207
[10:04] <timmay> Osiris: what are you looking to find out>?
[10:04] <hakaisou> ugh!
[10:04] <hakaisou> mtab says it's not mounted...
[10:04] <hakaisou> but gparted says won't do anything with it
[10:04] <nuu> hakaisou: sudo umount then
[10:04] <nuu> see if that helps
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <ubotu> |lostbyte|: Package/file tunctrl does not exist in feisty
[10:04] <Osiris207> why it is that the new kubuntu hates my wifi card , where as the old one didnt lol
[10:04] <Osiris207> basically it dont show up in network devices
[10:04] <ubotu> Osiris207: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:05] <hakaisou> oh...
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> lol
[10:05] <hakaisou> :D
[10:05] <timmay> lol
[10:05] <hakaisou> ID 10 T error
[10:05] <Osiris207> now it shows up in kingo
[10:05] <Osiris207> kinfo**
[10:05] <timmay> there ya go...fixed it
[10:05] <timmay> :)
[10:05] <LjL> |lostbyte|: well, he thought it through
[10:05] <Osiris207> but , you cant use it
[10:05] <Osiris207> so i dunno what to do lol
[10:05] <Osiris207> its there , but it aint ;p
[10:05] <nuu> hakaisou: any luck ?
[10:06] <hakaisou> got it
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> yea :P
[10:06] <Osiris207> so there you go , eat ya heart out ;p
[10:08] <hakaisou> all right hten
[10:09] <hakaisou> reforming sda2 as sda1
[10:09] <Osiris207> well any idea's anyone?
[10:10] <hakaisou> yes
[10:10] <hakaisou> but only if you're REALLY serious!
[10:10] <Osiris207> you talking to me?
[10:10] <hakaisou> yea
[10:10] <hakaisou> i don't know what the topic is though...
[10:10] <Osiris207> wifi
[10:10] <hakaisou> i'm just making stuff up as i go
[10:11] <hakaisou> and quoting ask a ninja
[10:11] <Osiris207> lol
[10:11] <Osiris207> i installed kubuntu and it dont show my wifi card in network devices
[10:11] <Osiris207> but it is shown in kinfo... so its knows its there ;p
[10:12] <hakaisou> have you checked to see if its compatable with kubuntu?
[10:12] <Osiris207> well it was compatible with the old kubuntu
[10:12] <Osiris207> so be pritty backwards if it aint compatable with the new one ;p
[10:12] <Osiris207> thats normally a windows-vista joke.. but i wont go there
[10:13] <hakaisou> stranger things have happened
[10:13] <Osiris207> true
[10:13] <hakaisou> the Cleveland Indians are top of the league right now
[10:13] <hakaisou> i mean come on
[10:13] <Osiris207> but it does my head in
[10:13] <Osiris207> lol
[10:14] <Osiris207> kubuntu is great , i am a big linux fan , but i always get trouble with wifi , does my head in
[10:14] <jtmoney> how come it's taking so long for ubuntu to release an updated package for gaim/pidgin? it went from beta to final, i figured that would be kind of important to roll-out
[10:14] <hakaisou> i love wired internet
[10:14] <timmay> what utility would be used for burning CD's and DVD's?
[10:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving: its done
[10:14] <Osiris207> i dont have that luxury at the moment
[10:14] <Kite_DH> fdoving:
[10:14] <Kite_DH>  acpid
[10:14] <Kite_DH>  acpi-support
[10:14] <Kite_DH>  powermanagement-interface
[10:15] <Kite_DH> fdoving: it says there were errors at dist-upgrade
[10:15] <hakaisou> timmay: k3b
[10:15] <muaddib> timmay: k3b
[10:15] <hakaisou> beat ya
[10:15] <hakaisou> :D
[10:15] <Kite_DH> timmay: k3b
[10:15] <Kite_DH> luv ya guys
[10:15] <Osiris207> so , does anyone know how to help my problem?
[10:15] <Kite_DH> lol
[10:16] <muaddib> damn!
[10:16] <hakaisou> sorry, i don't mess with wifi too much
[10:16] <hakaisou> over my head
[10:16] <timmay> cool, hehe it's only my second day on kubuntu...so it's a hard transition from windows to this
[10:16] <timmay> but i'm liking it more
[10:16] <Kite_DH> fdoving: should i reeboot now?
[10:16] <sayers> I just cant get this printer to work on windows :(
[10:17] <muaddib> timmay: k3b is one of those programs that is so incredibly better than anything on windows, or other linux programs as well. one of my favorite applications
[10:18] <timmay> will it "backup" my copyrights items? ;)
[10:18] <sayers> k3b is good ;)
[10:18] <sayers> even better than stuff you can waste money on :D
[10:18] <Osiris207> is there a channel for wifi support on irc?
[10:19] <Osiris207> i mean specifcally kubuntu wifi*
[10:21] <Ayabara> why oh why must it be so hard to get the vga on my laptop to output something that my tv can understand?
[10:22] <Osiris207> !wifi
[10:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:23] <binks> hey can i check a hdd for errors under linux ie my doze drive keeps restarting even after a fresh install and since i mainly use *nix is there a disk testing tool
[10:23] <timmay> question: my buddy is using ubuntu and just installed the kubuntu upgrade, but how does he change the GUI to show like kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[10:23] <Fahuadai> on the klogin, select session
[10:23] <Fahuadai> login^
[10:24] <timmay> ty
[10:24] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  are u there
[10:25] <mzanfardino> okay, can those of us who have not upgraded to Fiesty get to a repository for KDE 3.5.7 for Edgy?
[10:26] <RawSewage> Im in Feisty and have 3.5.6
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> RawSewage: well yeah, that's what's included with feisty
[10:27] <RawSewage> whats in 3.5.7
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> mzanfardino: probably not until some enterprising soul creates an edgy repo
[10:27] <mzanfardino> I'm on Edgy with 3.5.6 as well. I was hoping 3.5.7 would be available for Edgy... all the links I'm finding are for fiesty
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> not much
[10:28] <mzanfardino> Daisuke_Ido: ok, good enough
[10:28] <RawSewage> whats so great about .7
[10:28] <zoohouse> I am having trouble getting the outside world to see my vncserver... I have my computer connected directly to my DSL modem and using firestarter, I have the firewall disabled. Yet I can't connect to my vncserver using my public ip yet my local ip works fine. when I use canyouseeme.org it say "connection timed out" What may be wrong?
[10:29] <Daisuke_Ido> foward the ports.
[10:30] <zoohouse> Daisuke_Ido: it is connected directly to the modem with ippasstrough enabled
[10:30] <Daisuke_Ido> then it obviously isn't working
[10:30] <Timsen> does the vnc listen on the outside address?
[10:31] <Timsen> can you see that with netstat -tanp ?
[10:31] <zoohouse> Timsen: what do you mean?
[10:31] <zoohouse> Timsen: cp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:5901            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     7465/Xtightvnc
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> o_O
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> it's listening on <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:32] <Timsen> okay should listen
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ?
[10:32] <Timsen> that means it does listening on all interfaces
[10:32] <zoohouse> Is that wrong?
[10:32] <Daisuke_Ido> alright then.
[10:33] <zoohouse> right
[10:33] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps ip passthrough isn't working?
[10:33] <zoohouse> I have firestarter allowing port 5901 from everyone
[10:33] <zoohouse> Daisuke_Ido: that is running trough my head...
[10:34] <Timsen> i can be a problem because you are trying to reach your external ip from withing your external ip
[10:34] <Timsen> it
[10:34] <zoohouse> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i am going to have to do this after work
[10:34] <zoohouse> Timsen: I don't think so because I also use canyouseeme.org to test the port
[10:35] <Timsen> thats a good point
[10:36] <zoohouse> Timsen: thanks for the help but I am going to have to tackle this later after work.
[10:36] <zoohouse> see you guys later
[10:36] <Timsen> bye
[10:40] <lurkinsimon> evening
[10:41] <lurkinsimon> anyone home ?
[10:41] <Ace2016> hi
[10:41] <Ace2016> most people are away getting kde 3.5.7
[10:43] <lurkinsimon> ah
[10:43] <lurkinsimon> I am a bit in trouble here, I could use a tad bit of help
[10:44] <hakaisou> ok then
[10:44] <lurkinsimon> anyone knowledgeable about wifi and wep issues ?
[10:44] <hakaisou> installing
[10:45] <hakaisou> how do i mount partitions off a live CD?
[10:45] <stdin> hakaisou: like 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt '
[10:46] <bbeck_> does anyone know the package name for the kickoff menu?
[10:47] <Arwen> kicker? lol
[10:47] <hakaisou> yea...
[10:47] <hakaisou> stdin:  where does that mount to?
[10:47] <stdin> hakaisou: to /mnt
[10:47] <OlliK> Hi, all!
[10:47] <stdin> !kickoff | bbeck_
[10:47] <ubotu> bbeck_: Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[10:47] <OlliK> Does anyone know what is the command-line command for taking a screenshot in KDE?
[10:47] <OlliK> Something similar than the gnome-screenshot in gnome
[10:48] <stdin> bbeck_: don't know if it's in the repos tho
[10:48] <stdin> OlliK: ksnapshot?
[10:48] <lurkinsimon> I have a router which runs only wep for now, as putting it on wpa is quite troublesome. How do I get knetworkmanager to let me use the network he detected, in wep ?
[10:48] <lurkinsimon> by default it doesn't let me
[10:48] <OlliK> stdin: thanks
[10:50] <lurkinsimon> anybody ? :D
[10:50] <stdin> knetworkmanager always asked me for the wep key
[10:51] <hakaisou> stdin: thanks
[10:51] <Kite_DH> fdoving: okay im on feisty now, everything, except of the sound
[10:52] <lurkinsimon> stdin, when I run knetworkmanager it sees my router (a livebox) but by default it does not allow me to select a wep, just wpa. If on the other hand I tell it "conenct me to antoher network" then I get a wep option.
[10:52] <lurkinsimon> which is ridiculous since that other network is just fictious
[10:53] <lurkinsimon> on the "real" network it just sees wpa personal or enterprise
[10:53] <stdin> do you only use one wifi network? if so, then just put the settings in System Settings -> Network Settings
[10:53] <hakaisou> question, is there a second place where I can mount a drive in the live cd?
[10:53] <Jack31> oh yay
[10:53] <Jack31> kde 3.7
[10:53] <hakaisou> oh... ok then
[10:53] <hakaisou> i got it
[10:54] <stdin> hakaisou: yeah, just make a directory and mount it there, eg: sudo mkdir /mount1
[10:54] <Cugel> No problems with it, hakai?
[10:54] <stdin> Jack31: 3.7? you mean 3.5.7?
[10:54] <phpcode> how to get a valid ident?
[10:54] <Jack31> oops yeh
[10:54] <Jack31> :D
[10:54] <hakaisou> i think i figured out a solution
[10:54] <Jack31> is it worth an upgrade?
[10:54] <hakaisou> inside the first mounted drive there was folder also named mnt
[10:55] <hakaisou> so i used that
[10:55] <stdin> phpcode: install a ident server, I use pidentd
[10:55] <Cugel> Well they fixed a few bugs and introduced some new ones, so I guess it's okay.
[10:55] <stdin> hakaisou: just make sure you un-mount them in order then
[10:56] <RawSewage> i named my folder Drive B
[10:56] <RawSewage> i named my folder DriveB
[10:56] <phpcode> stdin: Ok. thx :)
[10:57] <binks> anyone no why or how i find out why kubuntu hangs when i try restart
[10:57] <binks> i just get a black screen
[10:57] <hakaisou> awesome
[10:57] <hakaisou> thanks for the assist stdin
[10:58] <hakaisou> now i can keep all my stuff
[10:58] <Osiris207> hey everyone
[11:00] <Osiris207> can anyone tell me why my wifi is unclaimed** , have a look in the pastebin and you'll see what i mean
[11:00] <Osiris207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22042/
[11:02] <stdin> I think that means that the driver isn't loaded for it
[11:02] <Osiris207> so what do i do
[11:02] <Osiris207> sorry to sound blunt
[11:03] <stdin> not sure, find what the driver is and sudo modprobe it
[11:03] <stdin> !wifi
[11:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:03] <Osiris207> i have a linux  driver for the chipset i got , i just dont know how to use it
[11:03] <Osiris207> as in , i dont understand the readme
[11:04] <stdin> pastebin it
[11:04] <Osiris207> ok
[11:04] <ahmed> guys does any one know hot to disable xgl ?
[11:05] <Osiris207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22043/
[11:05] <Osiris207> there you go stdin
[11:05] <Cugel> ahmed: just remove it?
[11:05] <ahmed> well i dont want to remove it
[11:05] <ahmed> i run a game under wine
[11:05] <ahmed> it runs very slowly
[11:05] <ahmed> warcraft 3..
[11:05] <Cugel> Ah, like that. Sorry I don't run it myself.
[11:06] <Cugel> Google for 'disable xgl', I found a few hints.
[11:07] <stdin> Osiris207: seems you just need to run "./makedrv" from the same directory as the README filr
[11:07] <stdin> *file
[11:07] <Osiris207> how do you run it?
[11:07] <Osiris207> do i just type ./makedrv
[11:07] <stdin> yeah
[11:07] <Osiris207> in the consol
[11:07] <Osiris207> i did that
[11:07] <Osiris207> nothing happens
[11:07] <stdin> nothing?
[11:08] <Osiris207> apartently you have to change its file type or something
[11:08] <Osiris207> so it says in the read me.. chmod 788 , but that dont do anything either
[11:08] <Osiris207> i dunno what ia m doing ;p
[11:08] <stdin> got a link to the file you downloaded, so I can poke around?
[11:09] <Osiris207> yeah sure
[11:09] <Osiris207> i'll get one for you
[11:09] <Osiris207> sorry to be a pain
[11:11] <raylu> Osiris207, chmod +x makedr
[11:11] <raylu> *makedrv
[11:11] <hakaisou> you know?
[11:11] <Osiris207> chmod +x makedrv , that whole command in the console?
[11:12] <hakaisou> it's amazing how long it takes for 30 gigs to transfer from one drive to another
[11:12] <Osiris207> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&ProdID=35&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[11:12] <nardax> Hi there,
[11:12] <Osiris207> there you go stdin
[11:12] <hakaisou> hennl nardax
[11:12] <hakaisou> hello even
[11:12] <raylu> Osiris207, yes
[11:12] <jtmoney> how come it's taking so long for ubuntu to release an updated package for gaim/pidgin? it went from beta to final, i figured that would be kind of important to roll-out
[11:12] <Osiris207> what does that do>
[11:12] <intelikey> ok i have compiled the information.   i don't know where to drop the info,  i'm not sure if it's kernel side (probably is)   or in the app (mc = midnight commander).     i'm not going to regester with launchpad but if anyone is interested in the bug report i can dcc a copy of the text file   or pastebin it  at your discression.
[11:13] <K-Ryan> Boo
[11:13] <nardax> Im a newbie
[11:13] <raylu> Osiris207, it allows it to be executed
[11:13] <K-Ryan> Welcome to the other sid nardax.
[11:13] <K-Ryan> *side
[11:13] <nardax> hah
[11:13] <raylu> Osiris207, when you ls it, it will be green. i believe the two 8s in 788 are for that too
[11:13] <Osiris207> ls it ?
[11:13] <K-Ryan> nardax: Having trouble with something?
[11:13] <raylu> when you type ls, the color of the file will be green
[11:14] <nardax> yup.. it's the video driver
[11:14] <raylu> that may help
[11:14] <Osiris207> why do i need to type ls?
[11:14] <K-Ryan> What make and model video card do you have?
[11:14] <nardax> my laptop is IBM T60 which has ATI mobile 1400
[11:14] <Osiris207> sorry i must sound dumb lol
[11:14] <raylu> Osiris207, i'm just mentioning it
[11:14] <intelikey> anybody interested ?  http://intelikey.pastebin.us/36657
[11:14] <raylu> you don't need to of course
[11:14] <Osiris207> oo i see  thankyou
[11:14] <raylu> it's the quickest, easiest way to check :P
[11:15] <nardax> I already downloaded the driver and run it..
[11:15] <K-Ryan> nardax: I haven't done an Ati one in a while but I'll try to walk you through it.
[11:15] <K-Ryan> nardax: There is more than just downloading from Ati
[11:15] <K-Ryan> Hold on two seconds
[11:15] <K-Ryan> !ati
[11:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:15] <Osiris207> i need all the help i can get lol
[11:15] <nardax> run with command ./ blar blar.run
[11:16] <NotFaint> New-ish Kubuntu user here. Who's got an ear for my problems?
[11:16] <raylu> !ask
[11:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:16] <K-Ryan> NotFaint, ask away
[11:16] <nardax> wow you guy are very nice to me, thank you all
[11:16] <K-Ryan> If someone has an answer, they will answer.
[11:16] <NotFaint> Oh no, I don't know who I should listen to! :P
[11:16] <K-Ryan> Sorry nardax =P
[11:16] <Osiris207> stdin , did you have a look?
[11:16] <NotFaint> My problem is with using KlamAV to scan a drive I've got in a mobile bay.
[11:16] <K-Ryan> I'm reading through the help file to figure out what you should do.
[11:17] <raylu> Osiris207, you set it to x, right? try running it now
[11:17] <K-Ryan> nardax: Open up your terminal
[11:17] <stdin> Osiris207: I'm looking at it
[11:17] <Osiris207> i am not on kubuntu , so i'll have  reboot
[11:17] <nardax> It detected the video card and I chose the detected one
[11:17] <raylu> Osiris207, oh. what are you trying to do anyway?
[11:17] <Osiris207> i'll let stdin have a look at the driver and comment , then i'll reboot and see what i can do
[11:17] <NotFaint> I created a mountpoint, mounted the drive -- the partition is NTFS, by the way, which could be the whole problem -- and tried to scan it in KlamAV, selecting it from /media/customerdrive (the mountpoint I made) but I don't have permission. Do I need to run Klam with sudo or something like that?
[11:17] <Osiris207> i am trying to install a driver for my wifi
[11:17] <Osiris207> card*
[11:17] <nardax> However, after I restart the ubuntu it is gone.
[11:18] <raylu> !chown | NotFaint
[11:18] <ubotu> NotFaint: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:18] <raylu> er...wtf...
[11:18] <K-Ryan> nardax: You're using Kubuntu right?
[11:18] <raylu> NotFaint, type "man chown"
[11:18] <raylu> Osiris207, i assume you're working on ndiswrapper?
[11:18] <Osiris207> no
[11:18] <nardax> yup
[11:18] <nardax> kubuntu
[11:18] <NotFaint> raylu: I know loosely what it does, enough that the man would just feel tedious to read :P
[11:18] <NotFaint> but
[11:18] <K-Ryan> 7.04 Feisty?
[11:18] <Osiris207> i have a driver specifically for linux
[11:18] <nardax> yup
[11:18] <nardax> correct
[11:19] <NotFaint> if I chown it to myself, am I chowning the mount point or the device or what?
[11:19] <K-Ryan> But the video card isn't working?
[11:19] <underdog5004> nuu, K-Ryan , I restarted my server,  but I couldn't ssh in...nmap wasn't even showing it...so I futzed around, read a magazine, and when I finally plugged the monitor in, it was showing the installation screen. I'd left the install cd in the drive!
[11:19] <K-Ryan> Well, drivers
[11:19] <raylu> NotFaint, the mount. the device is owned by root (i believe)
[11:19] <NotFaint> Gotcha. Will try. Thanks.
[11:19] <raylu> NotFaint, and it's in /dev
[11:19] <nardax> no. Kubuntu works as Vesa mode
[11:19] <raylu> nardax, *X?
[11:19] <K-Ryan> Vesa mode?
[11:19] <nardax> yup
[11:19] <raylu> i think he means X is using the vesa driver
[11:19] <K-Ryan> Mayve
[11:19] <nardax> yup I think so
[11:19] <K-Ryan> *Maybe
[11:20] <K-Ryan> Alright, open your console and type "glxgears"
[11:20] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: So all is well?
[11:20] <underdog5004> yes sir
[11:20] <nardax> ok
[11:20] <NotFaint> Also, if anybody knows, once I get to scanning this with Klam, since it's NTFS and I can only read it, can Klam still kill viruses it finds?
[11:20] <K-Ryan> Glad to hear
[11:20] <underdog5004> just thought I'd share my exp with you
[11:20] <raylu> NotFaint, no
[11:20] <Osiris207> stdin , i will just reboot and try the suggestion , i'll be back on a in a min if you have any comments
[11:20] <K-Ryan> underdog5004: Thanks ;)
[11:21] <NotFaint> so do I need a third-party NTFS driver or something
[11:21] <raylu> NotFaint, unelss you want to use the ntfs writing driver
[11:21] <stdin> Osiris207: ok
[11:21] <raylu> yep.
[11:21] <K-Ryan> nardax: Is it running smoothly or choppy?
[11:21] <NotFaint> raylu: I keep reading that there are... problems.
[11:21] <raylu> K-Ryan, he's ATI, right? fglrxinfo?
[11:21] <nardax> K, smoothly
[11:21] <NotFaint> This is a customer's machine, and I don't want to screw it up TOO bad, but I don't wanna risk infecting another Windows machine by putting it in there.
[11:21] <K-Ryan> raylu: Yeah he's an Ati user(Yes only the A is capital)
[11:21] <pirunga> how can I upgrade kubuntu from dapper to feisty ??
[11:21] <K-Ryan> But with official drivers or something.
[11:21] <raylu> NotFaint, yeah. it's possible that it screws up and you lose a lot of data, but it's stable enough for desktop use (so most people say)
[11:21] <NotFaint> pirunga: shouldn't Adept prompt you?
[11:21] <nardax> but I cant use the maximum resolution.
[11:21] <raylu> pirunga, to edgy first
[11:21] <K-Ryan> nardax: If it's running smoothly, then your card seems to be working properly.
[11:22] <stdin> !upgrade | pirunga
[11:22] <ubotu> pirunga: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:22] <K-Ryan> For glxgears? It's supposed to be small.
[11:22] <NotFaint> raylu: And how about you? Do YOU trust it? :P
[11:22] <underdog5004> notfaint, check out ntfs-3g for mounting ntfs drives rw
[11:22] <K-Ryan> or bigger, my bad...
[11:22] <K-Ryan> nardax: Or do you mean your screen resolution?
[11:22] <NotFaint> underdog5004: Thought I read somewhere about that one being older than something else that's out... I can't remember exactly what I read now
[11:22] <raylu> NotFaint, nope. I have windows installed so I use it for that. I don't need it, so my opinion isn't very meaningful. it's mostly useless to me
[11:23] <raylu> it would be a welcome convenience, but not worth the risk
[11:23] <NotFaint> raylu: I can kinda see what you mean about not needing it. If I didn't play games...
[11:23] <pirunga> raylu, can I use apt or something to get edgy first?
[11:23] <nardax> screen resolution
[11:23] <NotFaint> Well, maybe I'll just risk my Windows partition. I can always wipe it. And it's not like I could get a boot sector virus, since grub owns that
[11:23] <raylu> pirunga, i think so...but i don't know how. I just installed over my edgy (never had dapper) because I wanted a fresh start
[11:24] <NotFaint> Thanks all. I'm out.
[11:24] <K-Ryan> nardax: Okay, so your maximum screen resolution isn't showing up in KDE Menu > System Settings > Monitor and Display?
[11:24] <raylu> NotFaint, you could find the virus with klam and
[11:24] <nardax> It is supposed to be able to get bigger one..
[11:24] <K-Ryan> Bye Notfaint
[11:24] <raylu> NotFaint, remove it in windows manually
[11:24] <NotFaint> raylu: It'll probably be hidden somehow in Windows.
[11:24] <nardax> no. thats the problem
[11:24] <hakaisou> anyone know of a program that can stream and transcode media to an XBox 360?
[11:24] <raylu> NotFaint, huh? why?
[11:24] <mikkael> i got enabled onboard sound + a pci card. where do i tell kubuntu which one it should use ?
[11:24] <K-Ryan> nardax: I said it isn't showing =P
[11:24] <K-Ryan> Hold on a minute here
[11:24] <NotFaint> raylu: Rootkits, stuff like that -- I'm a bit rusty, I let the utilities handle that stuff.
[11:25] <hakaisou> i know that there are windows programs that can do it, but i'm not sure about linux
[11:25] <raylu> mikkael, I think it's kmenu > system settings > sound, but i'm not sure
[11:25] <stdin> pirunga: follow this guide to go to edgy: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[11:25] <nardax> Because of that texts look little bit weird
[11:25] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:25] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:25] <NotFaint> but I mean, files hidden in alternate data streams, even, or just... I don't know. Last time I tried deleting a known infected file manually it just didn't work.
[11:25] <raylu> pirunga, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[11:25] <stdin> pirunga: then this one to go from edgy to feisty http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[11:25] <K-Ryan> nardax: Ah, okay I'm looking for a fix as we speak.
[11:25] <hakaisou> woah... infected?
[11:25] <NotFaint> Anyway, REALLY gone this time. :P Thanks again all.
[11:26] <hakaisou> did someone get a virus in linux when i wasn't looking?
[11:26] <pirunga> what the name of packege gksu ???
[11:26] <nardax> Oh, thank you..
[11:26] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[11:26] <nardax> =)
[11:26] <underdog5004> hakaisou, no, it's a virus on a windows partition, I think
[11:26] <underdog5004> a pretty mean set of 'em, sounds like
[11:27] <K-Ryan> Alright here's where I begin to not know what to do.
[11:27] <hakaisou> ah
[11:27] <hakaisou> ok then, that makes sense
[11:27] <K-Ryan> However, you're going to need to add a line in your xorg.conf
[11:27] <nardax> ok
[11:27] <basquiat> hi there. installing kde 3.5.7, I have two little questions: 1) kpager doesn't seem to work well with beryl again (only one desktop is 'active'), 2) kmail is supposed to be able to show useragent/x-mailer in fancy headers - I can't find the configuration for that. any hints?
[11:27] <Ownatik> hi, if I install kubuntu over freebsd, will it overwrite the loader?
[11:27] <nardax> I know where it is
[11:27] <raylu> pirunga, gksu = kdesu for gnome
[11:27] <K-Ryan> But I'm not sure exactly what all the numbers should be.
[11:27] <K-Ryan> Don't open it yet because I'm not going to be able to tell you what to put in.
[11:27] <raylu> basquiat, 1. is a known issue, i think. no idea about 2
[11:28] <underdog5004> basquiat, why even use kpager? just hold down the scroll button on the mouse, and move all around!
[11:28] <raylu> Ownatik, do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[11:28] <K-Ryan> Hey guys, nardax needs help adding a screen resolution in his xorg.conf, can someone help him?
[11:28] <stdin> pirunga: kde uses kdesu, not gksu
[11:28] <nardax> OK
[11:28] <basquiat> underdog5004: ehe, yes, that regression bug doesn't hurt too much, right. :)
[11:28] <raylu> K-Ryan, google: "modeline" i'm feeling lucky
[11:28] <raylu> *nardax
[11:29] <K-Ryan> But wouldn't it differ based on the monitor?
[11:29] <nardax> xorg.conf is under /ect/X11 right?
[11:29] <nardax> yup.. I'm here
[11:29] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:29] <raylu> K-Ryan, yes. but it asks you for your scan/refresh rate, etc.
[11:29] <underdog5004> basquiat, I think it's easier, imho, to use the mouse to move, rather than a little panel
[11:29] <Ownatik> raylu I don't really know .. I had windows xp installed, installed desktopbsd, got an error about grub on install and now it only loads desktopbsd which is corrupted ...
[11:29] <raylu> Ownatik, what's your partition setup?
[11:29] <ahmed> guys any one know how to play an opengl game with full 3dsupport under xgl ??
[11:29] <K-Ryan> Oh okay that would work
[11:29] <raylu> nardax, yes. /etc
[11:29] <stdin> ahmed: maybe try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176636
[11:29] <nardax> I got it
[11:30] <stdin> ahmed: or just don't log into a xgl session
[11:30] <raylu> nardax, before you use the modeline generator, you'll need to find your monitor specs
[11:30] <ahmed> failed
[11:30] <ahmed> well there is a game warcraft3
[11:30] <ahmed> runs very slow in xgl session
[11:30] <ahmed> and in other sessions
[11:30] <Ownatik> raylu 110 gb XP, 20gb BSD , 20 gb fat32 (mp3)
[11:30] <ahmed> it doesnt run at all cause of some registry mess with wine
[11:30] <ahmed> i have an ati card, fglrx driver
[11:30] <nardax> ok
[11:30] <raylu> Ownatik, it can't be that simple. doesn't BSD require an extended and a swap partition?
[11:31] <K-Ryan> nardax: That looks like it will work so you are going to want to add that in your xorg.conf
[11:31] <K-Ryan> Save, and try to switch to it in Monitor and Display
[11:31] <nardax> OK
[11:31] <raylu> the modeline generator even tells you what section to add the modeline to and how to configure your screens
[11:31] <nardax> Should I restart Ubuntu in order to apply the change?
[11:32] <raylu> nardax, no, just X. ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:32] <raylu> wait, make sure you know how to use the console
[11:32] <nardax> and startx?
[11:32] <nardax> command
[11:32] <raylu> to revert back to your old xorg.conf
[11:32] <nardax> ok
[11:32] <raylu> ctrl+alt+backspace starts x for you
[11:32] <nardax> ok
[11:32] <Ownatik> raylu probably, but the install should make one
[11:32] <nardax> I'll do it right now
[11:32] <K-Ryan> "Linux, because rebooting is only for hardware changes."
[11:33] <raylu> Ownatik, it's not uncommon for nix installs to have seperate partitions for /etc, /boot, /home, etc...
[11:33] <nardax> ok..
[11:33] <nardax> I got it
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Just a quote =P
[11:33] <raylu> lol, K-Ryan. wait till you see me hotplug a cd-drive in :P
[11:33] <AutoMatriX> hi there, you geeks
[11:33] <nardax> thank you guys. After I restart the X, I'll be back
[11:33] <K-Ryan> Hello AutoMatriX...
[11:33] <K-Ryan> No problem nardax
[11:34] <Ownatik> raylu anyway im pretty screwed, all I want is my XP back so I can reinstall kubuntu after
[11:34] <raylu> Ownatik, huh? i thought your concern was your grub loader
[11:34] <Osiris207> back
[11:34] <raylu> Ownatik, does your boot loader not work?
[11:34] <Osiris207> stdin , did you find anything
[11:35] <Ownatik> raylu that's it , but it seems the BSD loader override grub or something
[11:35] <Osiris207> i did that chmod +x makedrv , but that script has errors all over it
[11:35] <raylu> Ownatik, what's the BSD loader called?
[11:35] <raylu> Osiris207, chmod or makedrv?
[11:35] <stdin> Osiris207: can't get it to work here, I'd say to try ndiswrapper
[11:35] <Osiris207> makedrv
[11:35] <raylu> what's Osiris's brand/model?
[11:35] <Ownatik> raylu I don't really know but I think it's or BTX or boot0loader
[11:35] <Ownatik> something like that
[11:35] <raylu> what were the errors makedrv gave?
[11:35] <Osiris207> rtl8185l
[11:36] <Osiris207> i didnt copy them
[11:36] <raylu> Ownatik, it is possible to install just grub from a (k)ubuntu livecd
[11:36] <Osiris207> but it was loads , files missing , all sorts
[11:36] <raylu> Osiris207, i'm sure you just need to install a few packages
[11:36] <raylu> Osiris207, unless they were syntax errors or something
[11:37] <Osiris207> i'll use ndiswrapper , i've used it before , but it mucked opensuse up
[11:37] <Osiris207> lets hope kubuntu isnt as bad
[11:37] <Ownatik> raylu I don't know, but i'm reinstalling kubuntu instead od BSD , hope it'll work or im screwed
[11:37] <raylu> Ownatik, why? if you just want XP back, just install grub
[11:37] <stdin> raylu: output here is http://stdin.pastebin.us/36659
[11:38] <Ownatik> raylu i want xp ans kubuntu, so wo't installing kubuntu install grub also?
[11:38] <raylu> stdin, i assume you ran the configure script?
[11:38] <K-Ryan> Yes Ownatik
[11:38] <raylu> Ownatik, oh. in that case, go ahead
[11:38] <Ownatik> ok thanks
[11:38] <stdin> raylu: there is no configure script
[11:39] <raylu> stdin, yeah. the thing isn't passing the right number of arguments to a dozen different functions. i suppose it actually was miscoded...
[11:39] <hakaisou> ok, now to unmount the drives
[11:39] <hakaisou> the unmount command is umount, right?
[11:39] <DarkFeeling> is there to difficult to change the bootsplash image and set one i like?
[11:40] <RawSewage> I use KwikDisk
[11:40] <stdin> raylu: either that, or the kernel has changed too much in the time it was written, it's for 2.6.x
[11:40] <RawSewage> it's an icon in your tray for easy mounting, see how much space you have, etc.   It's part of the  kdf package
[11:40] <raylu> oh.
[11:40] <K-Ryan> DarkFeeling: I know it's easy to change the splash screen, but I'm not sure about a custom one.
[11:40] <raylu> hakaisou, yes
[11:41] <stdin> hakaisou: yeah, sudo umount /mnt/mnt, then sudo umount /mnt
[11:41] <raylu> DarkFeeling, the boot loader or the splash screen?
[11:41] <stdin> hakaisou: if that's how you mounted them
[11:41] <hakaisou> it is
[11:41] <selim> selam
[11:41] <DarkFeeling> K-Ryan, its not the splash screen. is that one that says kubunu with the blue bar right before you type the login stuff.
[11:41] <hakaisou> and yea they are all unmounted now
[11:41] <selim_> 1
[11:41] <orville> DarkFeeling: there is a readme that comes with the grub-themes that explains how.
[11:41] <K-Ryan> Ah, not sure about that/
[11:41] <K-Ryan> He wants to change the Kubuntu loading screen logo.
[11:42] <orville> DarkFeeling: nm. I don't think you're referring to the grub boot screen :-)
[11:42] <K-Ryan> When booting up.
[11:42] <orville> oh.
[11:42] <raylu> DarkFeeling, usplash. but don't run that command :P there is some too to configure it
[11:42] <DarkFeeling> K-Ryan, thats right i dindt know whow to say it
[11:42] <orville> he does.
[11:42] <raylu> *tool
[11:42] <raylu> !startupmanager
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startupmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <raylu> !info startupmanager
[11:42] <ubotu> Package startupmanager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:43] <raylu> eh?
[11:43] <raylu> oh, right
[11:43] <ahmed> guys any windows emulator other than wine ??
[11:43] <raylu> DarkFeeling, deb http://ubuntusoftware.info/ edgy all
[11:43] <raylu> ahmed, winex, cedega, crossover
[11:43] <raylu> all mostly the same thing :P
[11:43] <stdin> ahmed: wine is not an emulator tho
[11:43] <stdin> and winex is dead
[11:44] <stdin> has been for a while now
[11:44] <matthew_> ahmed, maybe...cedega...but it's based on wine, I think
[11:44] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I change the menu so it doesn't do "Package name (package description)"? I can't find the option anywhere at all, and I really don't like it.
[11:44] <ahmed> well wine alternate then
[11:44] <ahmed> but cedega aint free .. any pirated version or so ?
[11:44] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, context, please
[11:44] <matthew_> we can't endorse that, I'm sorry, ahmed
[11:44] <Lunar_Lamp> raylu, the "k-menu".
[11:44] <raylu> ahmed, if there was, woiuld we tell you?
[11:44] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, the kmenu doesn't say package anywhere...
[11:44] <LjL> !piracy
[11:44] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[11:45] <matthew_> ahmed, you might check out virtualbox or vmware player. You can just install windows on a virtual machine and run whatever from there.
[11:45] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, oh. i see what you mean. right-click > edit menu
[11:45] <Lunar_Lamp> raylu, it gives the package name in the menu, and the package description. For example "k3b (CD&DDVD burning)"
[11:45] <ahmed> well yea but it will be real slow
[11:45] <ahmed> running anything
[11:45] <ahmed> especially games
[11:45] <raylu> that's neither the package name nor description, though :p
[11:45] <matthew_> ahmed, what game are you trying to play? you might ust want to have an XP partition that is specifically for gaming
[11:46] <Lunar_Lamp> I can't see any option to change it when I right click and edit menu...
[11:46] <matthew_> ahmed, dual booting, I mean
[11:46] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, type it in on the right
[11:46] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, and click save to update
[11:46] <nardax> I'm back
[11:46] <ahmed> nahh
[11:46] <ahmed> matthew i want a wine alternate
[11:46] <Lunar_Lamp> raylu, I want to stop it showing the descriptions...
[11:46] <raylu> Lunar_Lamp, so take them out!
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> All of them? There are loads!
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm sure there's an option to turn that off too..
[11:47] <raylu> not really. each one is set independently of the others
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> So there is no "hide description" button?
[11:47] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm sure I've used it before...
[11:48] <raylu> not that i know of. again, it's not a description
[11:48] <raylu> it's part of the menu label
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> The dialogue calls it a description.
[11:48] <K-Ryan> Umm, how would I go about searching "insert file name"
[11:48] <K-Ryan> ?
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Name: Akregator
[11:48] <raylu> K-Ryan, in what?
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Descroption: RSS feed reader
[11:48] <K-Ryan> Terminal
[11:48] <K-Ryan> Konsole
[11:48] <raylu> K-Ryan, searching...in what
[11:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Comment: an rss akregator for kde
[11:48] <ahmed> whats winex ?
[11:49] <K-Ryan> In the Konsole
[11:49] <K-Ryan> I'm looking for a file
[11:49] <hakaisou> question
[11:49] <raylu> K-Ryan, oh. in your HD, then
[11:49] <hakaisou> is a 2Gig swap file overkill?
[11:49] <K-Ryan> Oh, right, sorry =P
[11:49] <hakaisou> swap partition i mean
[11:49] <K-Ryan> How much RAM?
[11:49] <hakaisou> 2 Gigs
[11:49] <K-Ryan> Err, they recommend twice your RAM
[11:49] <ahmed> wats winex ?
[11:49] <hakaisou> a ripoff
[11:49] <K-Ryan> But 4 gigs of swap, never heard of that before.
[11:49] <K-Ryan> !winex
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <raylu> K-Ryan, i don't remember the command, but find [path]  [expr]  may work for you
[11:50] <K-Ryan> No idea ahmed
[11:50] <hakaisou> winex is now called cedega
[11:50] <hakaisou> !cedega
[11:50] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:50] <hakaisou> if you want to spend money on stuff Wine can do anyway, sure
[11:50] <K-Ryan> raylu: expr?
[11:50] <raylu> K-Ryan, expression. try kfind
[11:50] <hakaisou> well, i'll stick with a 2gig Swap
[11:50] <raylu> wait, nvm. that's GUI
[11:50] <mahdi_> there anyway to switch my system clock from military time to regular am/pm?
[11:51] <hakaisou> mostly cause i've got it configured like that, and 4 gigs does seem WAY overkill
[11:51] <K-Ryan> I don't seem to have Kfind...
[11:51] <raylu> mahdi_, right-click, format
[11:51] <K-Ryan> Yes mahdi_
[11:51] <raylu> K-Ryan, lowercase k. but that's gui
[11:51] <K-Ryan> Right click the clock and goto configure clock
[11:51] <K-Ryan> Oh, right
[11:51] <K-Ryan> "kfind"
[11:52] <K-Ryan> mahdi_: Sorry that's not it, ignore my "right click configure"
[11:52] <tree_> hello
[11:52] <raylu> locate(1), locatedb(5), updatedb(1),  xargs(1),  chmod(1),  fnmatch(3),
[11:52] <raylu>        regex(7),  stat(2),  lstat(2), ls(1), printf(3), strftime(3), ctime(3),
[11:52] <raylu>        Finding Files (on-line in Info, or printed).
[11:52] <K-Ryan> Hi there tree_!
[11:52] <mahdi_> K-Ryan: was about to say, didn't see anything in the configure dialogue for that
[11:53] <K-Ryan> Yeah it's right click date & time format
[11:53] <tree_> i keep having a reoccuring problem where under fiesty.. certain sites like nhl.com etc cause flash to sieze up and freeze the machine
[11:53] <K-Ryan> Have you tried to install flash?
[11:53] <tree_> is there anyway to uninstall flash 9?
[11:53] <K-Ryan> How did you try to install it?
[11:53] <K-Ryan> You didn't download the package did you? =P
[11:54] <tree_> i might have
[11:54] <K-Ryan> Did you download it from Add/Remove Programs, sudo apt-get install, Adept Package Manager, or Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:55] <tree_> i did sudo apt-get install
[11:55] <tree_> i did this :   sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:56] <K-Ryan> oh
[11:56] <tree_> now i wished i hadent
[11:56] <K-Ryan> That sounds about right
[11:56] <tree_> ok
[11:56] <K-Ryan> Here's what you do
[11:56] <tree_> k
[11:56] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:56] <albertmk> Does anyone understand the problem with "No rule to make target,," ?????
[11:56] <K-Ryan> Then afterward you can try reinstalling it, otherwise you may need some kind of a replacement.
[11:56] <raylu> albertmk, you need to ./configure
[11:57] <albertmk> In fact, there is no configure file anywhere
[11:57] <albertmk> It must be because I am using cmake.
[11:57] <tree_> kryan thx
[11:57] <raylu> albertmk, what are you trying to make?
[11:57] <tree_> wheres the best place to install flash 9 from?
[11:57] <raylu> tree_, firefox has an automatic installer, but that doesn't seem to work too often
[11:57] <K-Ryan> The repositories
[11:57] <K-Ryan> (What you did)
[11:58] <albertmk> raylu: I am trying to make a software called openModeller
[11:58] <K-Ryan> When I first had Ubuntu I actually downloaded the linux version from adobe and somehow managed to get it working.
[11:59] <tree_> i'll do some more googling
[11:59] <albertmk> raylu: Do you want me to show you the text of the problem?
[11:59] <K-Ryan> tree_ are you using firefox?
[11:59] <tree_> yes swiftfox even
[11:59] <K-Ryan> swiftfox? never heard of it
[11:59] <raylu> albertmk, sure, I guess
[11:59] <K-Ryan> However, you might want to try sudo apt-get isntall swf-player
[11:59] <K-Ryan> *install
[11:59] <tree_> but it freezes konqueror on the same pages as firefox
[11:59] <raylu> !swiftfox
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <K-Ryan> How about when you didn't have flash?
[12:00] <albertmk> raylu: can you tell me the website for posting stuff?
[12:00] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <K-Ryan> ;)
[12:00] <luke-jr_work> Does Kubuntu count as Ubuntu?
[12:00] <albertmk> :P
[12:00] <K-Ryan> It's a version of it
[12:00] <raylu> !kubuntu
[12:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:00] <luke-jr_work> eg, if I am installing a server, will I get the *exact* same thing?
[12:00] <K-Ryan> What do you mean by "thing"?
[12:00] <raylu> o.0? ubuntu server is ubuntu without the gui...
[12:00] <raylu> so wth is a kubuntu server?
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> K-Ryan: finished product
[12:01] <K-Ryan> Sure, might use a different program.
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> all the files binary equal etc
[12:01] <K-Ryan> By default anyway
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> hm
[12:01] <albertmk> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22056/
[12:01] <K-Ryan> Rule of thumb is that whatever works on Ubuntu works on Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu
[12:01] <luke-jr_work> doesn't mean a corp will support it...
[12:02] <luke-jr_work> unless it's binary equal so they cannot determine a difference
[12:02] <hakaisou> ok then, time to reboot
[12:02] <hakaisou> :D
[12:02] <K-Ryan> The same file would work on Ubuntu/Kubuntu/etc.
[12:02] <K-Ryan> Without changes
[12:02] <K-Ryan> Granted it's not meant for Windows
[12:02] <Cugel> "Since this seems to be a pretty big issue and ALL the solutions proposed don't work in my case, I'm switching back to Windows." -- some people need to be a bit more patient.
[12:02] <raylu> albertmk, what's in build.bat, autogen.sh, and doCheckInstall.sh?
[12:02] <Ash-Fox> Apparently I shouldn't be able to play dvds on according to someone if I don't have libdvdcss. Now, I know if I set the regioncode on my DVD drive to the correct region of the DVD, I can play those DVDs. However, what I found was interesting... I can play region 1 DVDs on my DVD drive that has region 2 set, while not having libdvdcss installed (I just have ubuntu-restricted-extras and libxine-extracodecs installed) -- Can anyone explain the
[12:02] <K-Ryan> I agree Cugel
[12:03] <luke-jr_work> but unless it's exactly Ubuntu 6.06, the company will not support
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> I bet that cut off.
[12:03] <Cugel> (from a thread on the ubuntuforums)
[12:03] <albertmk> raylu: Do you want me to run it?
[12:03] <raylu> albertmk, um...sure.
[12:03] <K-Ryan> luke-jr_work: Same
[12:03] <K-Ryan> What works on 6.06 works on 6.10 and 7.04 if I'm not mistaken
[12:03] <albertmk> raylu: hmmm
[12:03] <tree_> k-ryan on a site that says you need this flash plugin click here to install... and it installs adobe flash...is that the best way to go?
[12:04] <raylu> K-Ryan, wireless :P
[12:04] <raylu> tree_, i'd recommend trying t
[12:04] <raylu> *it
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Psshh, that's not an issue here raylu
[12:04] <tree_> k thx
[12:04] <K-Ryan> tree_ You might want to try reinstalling the flash package first
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Just in case it was a package gone wrong
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Up to you though
[12:04] <albertmk> raylu: How can I run a .bat file?
[12:04] <luke-jr_work> K-Ryan: but if I call up VMWare, they will refuse to help if it's 6.10 or 7.04
[12:04] <K-Ryan> Whatever works you should use =P
[12:05] <raylu> albertmk, oh. don't run that one :P just open it in a text editor
[12:05] <albertmk> raylu: and I cannot run doCheckInstall.sh.
[12:05] <K-Ryan> Then you should be happy you're on 6.06 luke-jr_work
[12:05] <raylu> albertmk, why not?
[12:05] <tree_> every time i go to NHL.com i get a system freeze
[12:05] <tree_> from flash
[12:05] <tree_> i suspect
[12:05] <K-Ryan> Is there no flash-less version?
[12:06] <K-Ryan> I haven't been there in a while so I don't know...
[12:06] <albertmk> ./doCheckInstall.sh
[12:06] <albertmk> ./doCheckInstall.sh: line 13: checkinstall: command not found
[12:06] <tree_> im only going there as a test
[12:06] <K-Ryan> Without flash?
[12:06] <tree_> because i know it did freeze the system before
[12:06] <tree_> its full of flash
[12:06] <K-Ryan> No, are you going there without flash installe
[12:06] <K-Ryan> d
[12:07] <tree_> when u install ubuntu does it matter whether you choose gdm or kdm?
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Welcome back hendaus
[12:07] <hendaus> thanx K-Ryan :)
[12:07] <K-Ryan> tree_ Just changes your commands I believe
[12:07] <tree_> flash was uninstalled, then reinstalled
[12:07] <hendaus> can i private u
[12:07] <albertmk> raylu: Build.bat has: qmake and make
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Sure
[12:07] <hendaus> :)
[12:07] <K-Ryan> Okay tree_, try that out.
[12:07] <K-Ryan> If that doesn't work, you can't use that flash package.
[12:07] <tree_> try which out???
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Going to the site
[12:08] <Hash-the-cracker> hello
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Actually, have you tried going somewhere with maybe one or two flash things?
[12:08] <tree_> with flash uninstalled?
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Less intensive
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Hi there Hash-the-cracker
[12:08] <K-Ryan> Yes tree_, if you reinstalled that's the only way to test the package.
[12:08] <Hash-the-cracker> hehe, thankz 4 the welcome
[12:08] <K-Ryan> No problem ;)
[12:09] <K-Ryan> So, having trouble?
[12:09] <Hash-the-cracker> yea a bit
[12:09] <K-Ryan> What's the problem?
[12:09] <Hash-the-cracker> think you could help me
[12:09] <Hash-the-cracker> well...
[12:09] <tree_> its unnerving becuase it causes a full crash that requires a reboot
[12:09] <K-Ryan> I can imagine tree_
[12:09] <K-Ryan> It's up to you =P
[12:09] <tree_> im going to uninstall flash and reinstall it carefully
[12:10] <albertmk> raylu: raylu?
[12:10] <raylu> ?
[12:10] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  did u read my pvmsg?
[12:10] <raylu> i'm out of ideas :P
[12:10] <albertmk> raylu: Any idea?
[12:10] <K-Ryan> Didn't get it hendaus
[12:10] <albertmk> :(
[12:10] <raylu> albertmk, have you read the install file?
[12:10] <albertmk> yes, like 10 times.
[12:11] <Hash-the-cracker> each time there are updates or i install something, i install them, but at the end it says that it did not install all packages even tho it did and the same 3 packages keep coming up, the problem for all of them was the couldent be configured, any help?
[12:11] <K-Ryan> What packages?
[12:11] <raylu> Hash-the-cracker, you sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:11] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  dude i want to install amsn,amule,xchat , avidemux and many things.... how can i download automatix2
[12:11] <ThinkTank> Hello, does anyone know how to add the latest NVIDIA driver to Kubuntu low latency kernel
[12:11] <raylu> hendaus, automatix2 isn't recommended
[12:11] <K-Ryan> !automatix | hendaus
[12:11] <ubotu> hendaus: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:12] <K-Ryan> Don't use it, I've already had one person do it and they needed a fresh install.
[12:12] <Hash-the-cracker> also, what is aptitude?
[12:12] <raylu> !aptitude
[12:12] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:12] <K-Ryan> Same as apt-get but it tracks dependencies I'm told
[12:12] <hendaus> K-Ryan:  so help me with amsn amule xchat and skype ..
[12:13] <raylu> same as apt-get, but without super cow powers, or so it claimms
[12:13] <raylu> *claims
[12:13] <K-Ryan> Well I knwo there is a skype package in the repositories somewhere
[12:13] <K-Ryan> *know
[12:13] <K-Ryan> No idea about amsn, amule, or xchat
[12:13] <raylu> sudo aptitude install skype
[12:13] <hendaus> ok and amule?
[12:13] <K-Ryan> See above ;)
[12:13] <raylu> sudo aptitude install xchat
[12:14] <Hash-the-cracker> how can i get ubuntu to see my mic? they way i see it a mic is a mic, so shouldnt it be covered by a generic driver??
[12:14] <raylu> sudo aptitude install amule
[12:14] <sayers> !nvidia|Sayers
[12:14] <K-Ryan> !nvidia | sayers
[12:14] <raylu> oh yeah. amsn.
[12:14] <ubotu> sayers: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:14] <K-Ryan> You need the space =P
[12:14] <sayers> I got it already :s
[12:14] <sayers> it pmed me \
[12:14] <sayers> thats what i wanted :)
[12:14] <K-Ryan> Oh!
[12:14] <raylu> sudo aptitude install amsn
[12:14] <raylu> :D
[12:15] <K-Ryan> Ok, didn't know that was another way to PM it...
[12:15] <tree_> i went back from swiftfox to firefox and it seems to work no freeze yet
[12:15] <K-Ryan> That's good
[12:15] <hendaus> raylu: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "skype"
[12:15] <Hash-the-cracker> so... about the mic