[04:54] <babbageclunk> axw: could you review https://github.com/juju/description/pull/12 please? Part of adding remote spaces and subnets to state.
[04:56] <babbageclunk> axw: annoyingly the biggest part.
[04:56] <axw> babbageclunk: just having lunch atm, will review soon after
[04:56] <babbageclunk> axw: cool cool - no rush
[04:58] <axw> babbageclunk: I think we should have used protobuf or something similar for this :/
[04:58] <axw> which I think you were getting at this morning
[04:59] <babbageclunk> axw: yeah, agreed - something that supports versioning - it's a lot of fiddly nearly-boilerplate.
[05:46] <axw> babbageclunk: done, sorry for the delay
[14:25] <gsamfira> heya
[14:25] <gsamfira> anyone have time for a quick review? :)


[12:13] <sasa84> hi guys! may i ask if there is any list of primary/most important translations (translation packages)  to do for 14.04?
[14:23] <trijntje_> sasa84: yes there is
[14:23] <trijntje_> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty


[22:35] <duffydack> tripelb, windows 7 ?
[22:35] <edbian> waht, It'll probably be fine.
[22:35] <chowder> Bambr: yep, that's 32 bit. I honestly don't know how to increase signal strength on your card. you're better off searching the forums or making a post there
[22:36] <root_> has anyone else had issues with installing themes. after i installed a few themes my gnome-desktop was completely wiped out
[22:36] <Bambr> chowder: i'll try those compat drivers, will see if it works
[22:37] <tripelb> duffydack: I have 4-5 assorted drives and some CD's with old saved stuff on them - finally I could afford a big drive. -- This is a 2004 Dell with a IDE drive right now at my new SATA drive (into the m'board which has SATA). -- The windows is XPhome. This computer cannot use Win7.
[22:37] <waht> Cool, just found it hard to imagine. Thanks for your help.
[22:37] <chocobanana> root_: you can always delete the .themes directory in your Home directory to reset it
[22:37] <duffydack> tripelb, so what happens when you boot a livecd/liveusb
[22:37] <kantxx> anyone know why i cant ssh into my own ubuntu server remotely? ssh user@localhost works and ssh@hostname asks for password but fails..
[22:38] <jrib> kantxx: are you specifying the correct username?
[22:38] <root_> ty chocobanana, i am reinstalling my desktop as we speak. if i delete the .themes folder, will i get my default icons and such back?
[22:38] <kantxx> jrib: yes
[22:39] <jrib> kantxx: you install anything like denyhosts or fail2ban?  You checked /etc/hosts.deny?
[22:39] <tripelb> duffydack: (except for the one time it hung on HAL 20 mins ago) it boots fine. (The server USB is only set to install not boot.)
[22:39] <chocobanana> root_: yeah, it should be good that way. In the event that that is indeed the cause, you can also use the live cd, mount the partition with your Home folder and delete .themes from there
[22:39] <kantxx> jrib: no.. fresh install
[22:39] <jrib> kantxx: and ssh localhost asks for a password?
[22:39] <kantxx> jrib: and works
[22:40] <Viper> Hi, How can i change my "Local PC IP" from terminal?
[22:40] <jrib> kantxx: try with ssh -vvv, also check logs on the server
[22:40] <duffydack> tripelb,  have you tried to install it then from livecd/usb?   you`ll need to resize your ntfs though.
[22:41] <Viper> Because There is no connection in NetworkManagerApplet.
[22:41] <jrib> kantxx: by the way, when you say "fails", what do you mean?  Does it ask you again for a password?
[22:41] <kantxx> jrib: yeah it keeps askingfor pass when doing it remotely
[22:41] <tripelb> repeating: duffydack: (except for the one time it hung on HAL 20 mins ago) a live CD (9.04,10.04,Fedora11)  boots fine. (The server USB is only set to install not boot.) -- yes I have tried and failed many times to install from a live CD (no problem just noting I said this before) and when I have it always breaks when starting gparted. Maybe it will be different today.
[22:42] <tripelb> duffydack: since today gparted started up and didnt break.
[22:42] <tevoda> I have a constant problem "PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function curl_init()" I have curl install so what am I missing?
[22:42] <Viper> Any one can help me?
[22:42] <duffydack> tripelb, the livecd installer doesnt use gparted.
[22:43] <kantxx> im so lost
[22:43] <ndxtg> hi everyone. I'm facing a weird problem. I copy files from ext3 partition to ext3 partition on the same HDD/pc but only with 20MB/s speed. Any idea why?
[22:43] <jrib> kantxx: did you try what I said?
[22:43] <kantxx> jrib: seems fine he output
[22:43] <jrib> kantxx: pastebin
[22:44] <tripelb> duffydack: sorry I've been at this for weeks and weeks. It didnt work then. It stopped before it displayed the partitioner.
[22:44] <Viper> How can i change my "Local IP" from terminal? Because There is no connection in NetworkManagerApplet. Its emtpy
[22:44] <supersasho> hi there, i have a problem with my FTP. all the files which are downloaded are corrupted. and it seems that none of the ascii binary auto mode in any client si helping. any idea?
[22:44] <Trian3> I recently installed an app through Synaptic that had a dependency.  I now want to uninstall that file as well as the dependency, but I don't remember the name of it.  Any way to look it up?
[22:45] <duffydack> tripelb, hmm, ok, well the alternative is to use the alternate installer..
[22:45] <jrib> Trian3: apt-get autoremove will do that for you
[22:45] <duffydack> tripelb,  I mean alternate ubuntu, not server. btw
[22:45] <tripelb> How much space do I need to give to each thing when I partition. I'd rather put my data in an partition that all can read. (Originally I didnt want to use windows on that drive. Now I want to make sure I can.)
[22:45] <tripelb> duffydack: what's an alternate installer and how does it differ?
[22:46] <Adzy_> olah all!
[22:46] <duffydack> tripelb, an ncurses based installer like that of the server cd
[22:47] <tripelb> duffydack: (correction noted) what's the alternate ubuntu about? why not the server? what can cause gparted to break like that, and not now? == I dont knwo what ncurses is.
[22:47] <tripelb> My brain feels like a squeezed sponge.
[22:47] <kantxx> jrib: i dont understand.. i stop sshd and it starts itself..
[22:47] <duffydack> tripelb, its a safer method of installing when the livecd doesnt work for you....be it video or other hardware issue
[22:48] <tripelb> "Everything I know is wrong."   laffs
[22:48] <Adzy> Hello
[22:48] <jrib> kantxx: are you sure? If you have a running ssh session, it will stay alive
[22:49] <kantxx> jrib: /etc/init.d/ssh stop and i see the PID changing
[22:49] <tripelb> duffydack:  I want to ask how is it safer, etc. But first, let me read up on it. I am going to partition the drive now. If I can.
[22:49] <tripelb> yes, it's backed up, all but two movies.
[22:50] <duffydack> tripelb, if you can just make some free space from the xp partition (resize it to make free partition) then you can just go easy route and tell it to use free space to auto partition.. if you arent sure about it all
[22:50] <Trian3> jrib:  Ok, I tried "sudo apt-get autoremove swat", but it lists far too many packages.  101, to be precise; I only installed one dependency in addition to SWAT.
[22:51] <tripelb> and of course the precious windows installation that keeps updating for a week or more and takes all kinds of effort to install necessary programs that are not included in the system. That's after I have to use 3 disks and install driver after driver to make the system work. Dell did not want the user to be able to redo the system but pay a tech a lot.. Grr.
[22:51] <jrib> Trian3: autoremove offers to remove all unused packages
[22:51] <kantxx> jrib: wtf.. in order to acctually keep sshd stopped i have to kill it in a loop
[22:51] <jrib> kantxx: that isn't my experience
[22:51] <kantxx> jrib: wth is going on
[22:51] <jrib> kantxx: did you make sure you closed any existing ssh sessions you had?
[22:51] <HandyGandy> I'm scnniing something. It scans Ok but the scan bar stops at the end without returning and I get a mesage "reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address".
[22:51] <kantxx> jrib: yes
[22:52] <tripelb> I'll try that. duffydack
[22:52] <Trian3> jrib:  All unused packages regardless of whether they're connected to the application in question?
[22:52] <jrib> kantxx: you know your sshd is still running?
[22:52] <HandyGandy> Then the scan bar stops at the end wiothout returning and the device refuses to scan untill I unplug it and replug it in.
[22:52] <jrib> kantxx: or at least the one on the computer you're talking to me with
[22:52] <tripelb> wait, if I resize the windows partition, first how can I tell how much to resize it so I dont lose anything!!!!
[22:52] <kantxx> jrib: if i do a while [ true ] do killall sshd done         it gets connection refused.. which means no IP/DNS issue.. but doing /etc/init.d/ssh stop doesnt acctually STOP it
[22:53] <carael> hi
[22:53] <tripelb> duffydack: I said how can I tell.. just above
[22:53] <mister-walter> Do we have write support for Journaled HFS+ partitions yet?
[22:54] <sven_oostenbrink> When running the kubuntu live cd 10.04, my dad runs into trouble, and problem is, I cant see his screen output (Im *far* away) He sees some stuff about "PCI device listing", last thing he sees is HCPI controller 9.. then it just waits for a while, and then it starts booting the windows that is already installed on his machine. Interresting detail, this machine already has ubuntu 8.04 installed.. Any of this rings a bell with anyone?
[22:54] <duffydack> tripelb, tell what?
[22:55] <tripelb> duffydack: it says NewSize 953859  (which is the old size) - it says 20G is used so I want to make it 30G then I subtract to find "Free Space Following"?
[22:58] <Adzy> anyone know where i can find a list of console commands????
[22:58] <duffydack> tripelb  where does it say this.
[22:58] <erUSUL> !cli | Adzy
[22:58] <edbian> Adzy, help
[22:58] <bazhang> !bash > Adzy
[22:59] <teage> ok, i have reinstalled my desktop environment and i am getting a error window. desktop loads fine exept the error asks me if i want to delete gnome_fastuserswitchapplet. what does this mean?
[22:59] <mister-walter>  Do we have write support for Journaled HFS+ partitions yet?
[22:59] <diogo_79> hi
[23:00] <diogo_79> is someone using sadms on ubuntu???
[23:00] <jrib> diogo_79: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[23:02] <duffydack> tripelb, basically yes.  Shrink the partition to make however much free space you want to give ubunut.
[23:02] <diogo_79> the problem is when i try to join to the domain it stops on step 7 samba version
[23:02] <BluesKaj> mister-walter,  mount -t hfsplus blahblah
[23:02] <mister-walter> thanks
[23:03] <Shwaiil> Q: On terminal how to do a deltree in ubuntu ? Whats the command ? Thanks
[23:03] <erUSUL> Shwaiil: rm -r dir/
[23:03] <thune3> teage: i don't rememeber seeing that in recent ubuntu, it used to happen when an applet process died or was killed. it meant "this applet has been removed, do you want to permanently remove it"
[23:03] <diogo_79> dont know what to try next
[23:04] <Shwaiil> erUSUL,  thanks!
[23:04] <duffydack> teage, erUSUL Ive had that a few times in Lucid..
[23:05] <diogo_79> where is the log http://pastebin.org/1047961
[23:05] <diogo_79> please take a look
[23:07] <teage> duffydack, i fixed it
[23:08] <CyberGabber> Even brainstormen / meeste stemmen gelden...
[23:08] <teage> duffydack apt-get install indicator-applet-session seems to be the fix
[23:08] <duffydack> teage, how?  Not seen it for a while, and not yet in mav, but I just said dont delete to it and all was well. still a pain
[23:09] <duffydack> teage, mine is already installed
[23:09] <duffydack> teage, always has been.
[23:09] <teage> duffydack, yes, apparently you have to remove the old one and install the new. worked for me.
[23:10] <duffydack> teage, I update regularly.. its already new
[23:10] <erUSUL> mister-walter: no; afaik. do not think we ever get it. looks like nobody is interested enough to enhance the hfs driver to support journal mode properly
[23:10] <frankZ> hey, I'm trying to setup my wireless linksys ae1000, and have been following these instructions here:http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1353558 but I get an error like the one described here:
[23:10] <frankZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560432
[23:10] <teage> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1365262
[23:10] <frankZ> using the new 10.10 beta.
[23:11] <teage> thats the link to what helped me out
[23:11] <duffydack> teage, so you are using karmic?
[23:11] <teage> yes duffydack.
[23:11] <duffydack> teage, I`m a fresh install of Lucid, I should not have it happen... well anyway
[23:11] <Adzy> erUSUL <--- thanks for the console link :D
[23:11] <erUSUL> Adzy: no problem
[23:12] <duffydack> teage, its not a 'fix' for me anyway.. its been a while since it happend however so we`ll see.
[23:12] <Ushi> Hi I would like some help. I typed 'su' and inputed my root password right but it still wont give me authentication
[23:12] <erUSUL> !root | Ushi
[23:12] <Adzy> i just got ubuntu last week.. only got my internet connection working on it before :D s
[23:12] <frankZ> Did 10.10 break wireless support for many cards? Ubuntu sure has done this in the past, I suppose.
[23:12] <erUSUL> Adzy: wellcome to free software then ;P
[23:12] <Adzy> yea pretty cool OS hey!
[23:13] <Adzy> im actually going back to school part time to do IT Systems :D
[23:13] <unsober> hello, i am a linux beginner, trying to install ubuntu and ran into a small problem. does anyone mind checking out my thread on the support forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1578891
[23:13] <VCoolio> Ushi: authentication for what? what are you trying to do?
[23:13] <teage> duffydack, my problem started with installing themes. thinking there was a bad theme. it deleted my gnome desktop environment. had to reinstall and then had the error
[23:13] <starredsteria> anyone here able to help me figure out why I can't get my acer crystaleye webcam to work with skype?
[23:13] <Ushi> do a ./install of corel photo paint 9
[23:14] <starredsteria> Ive ran gstreamer properties... webcam works when i test v4l2... but but not v4l
[23:14] <starredsteria> can't find anything online for 10.04 either :(
[23:15] <VCoolio> Ushi: do 'chmod +x install' first, then 'sudo ./install' but be aware that this puts files in your system that the package manager doesn't know about
[23:15] <Ushi> ok thanks will try that.
[23:16] <andres_> im new on liux how can i acces to my usb memory and can i open the files of office 2007?
[23:16] <VCoolio> andres_: openoffice can open office 07 files just fine
[23:16] <xbonesx> Is their an IRC for cairo?
[23:17] <Roasted> Partition Question - I dual boot Win/Ubuntu. I'm installing Win 7 now. I noticed Windows 7 creates a 100mb partition by default at the front of the disk, before your partition you create. Will I be able to install Win 7 (100mb partition + 150gb standard NTFS partition) as well as Ubuntu w/ 2gb swap - 25gb root - remainder of disk home? Or would that be too many partitions?
[23:17] <duffydack> think logical
[23:17] <Roasted> Ultimately the disk would be - 100mb Win - 150gb Win - 2gb Nix Swap - 25gb Nix Root - 800gb (or whatever remaining) Nix Home.
[23:18] <xbonesx> Roasted: i have like 5 partitions
[23:18] <turtle_> what does the swap actually do?
[23:18] <duffydack> the first 3 can be primary, after that its extended and logical
[23:18] <turtle_> sorry idle question, i could google it really
[23:18] <Roasted> xbonesx, yeah, but I remember there being a limitation on how many of a certain partition you can have.  Like if Root is extended, does it perform poor vs primary?
[23:19] <frankZ> like myself.
[23:19] <duffydack> Roasted, nope.
[23:19] <xbonesx> 1000mb win + original recovery for default OS + win OS + ext4 + plus the other one ubuntu does
[23:19] <Roasted> thanks duffydack
[23:19] <xbonesx> 100*
[23:19] <duffydack> Roasted, win7 + ubuntu also.
[23:19] <Roasted> duffydack, you got your linux partitions split like I do?
[23:19] <teage> how would i reinstall my sound hardware?
[23:20] <duffydack> Roasted, mine is winboot - wininstall - / - {extended-logical} /home - swap - maverick
[23:20] <turtle_> duffydack and Roasted : you had any problems with grub2 not booting windows?
[23:20] <duffydack> turtle_, never.
[23:20] <Roasted> I havent.
[23:21] <Roasted> gotta go though
[23:21] <Roasted> thanks again
[23:21] <turtle_> good luck
[23:21] <llvllonk> anyone know how to add printer with command line?
[23:21] <turtle_> im gonna have to do some tinkering i think
[23:21] <turtle_> currently its refusing to boot windows, but im sorting some other stuff out at the moment
[23:21] <turtle_> i quite like linux, theres always something to do
[23:22] <starredsteria> I'm having issues running my webcam with cheese and skype.... this is the error I get with gstreamer http://paste.ubuntu.com/498031/
[23:22] <starredsteria> can anyone help with this?
[23:22] <Adzy> what do i download so i can modify what console looks like?
[23:23] <jerry_> hi i am trying to listen to music but it says failed to connect to stream too large
[23:23] <Adzy> e.g show wallpaper instead of white screen/change font/change text colout/ etc
[23:24] <jerry_> cam any one helpme
[23:24] <lukosanthropos> Hi guys can someone help me I can't connect to my samba shares on my ubuntu box
[23:25] <jerry_> hello i need help
[23:25] <ghaleb> lukosanthropos: smb://IP
[23:25] <teage> i think i will have to reinstall my whole system. bummer. i cant find anything about my sound problem
[23:26] <jerry_> can any one help me i have a problem
[23:26] <duffydack> ask away
[23:26] <lukosanthropos> ghaleb : I know that I'm not a total noob, I when I try to connect it tells me the server isn't responding
[23:26] <arooni-mobile> my ubuntu 10.04 desktop just froze up.  caps lock key / nothing worked.  any idea on figuring out WHY it happened?
[23:27] <mar> is there a possibility to lock specific type windows to workspace?
[23:27] <duffydack> arooni-mobile, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[23:27] <mar> i mean i want that firefox windows would open in workspace 4 and etc
[23:27] <jerry_> plz help me
[23:27] <duffydack> mar, with compiz maybe
[23:27] <duffydack> mar, if you are using it
[23:28] <mar> yes i am, any specific plugin? :)
[23:28] <duffydack> mar, well
[23:28] <duffydack> !ccsm |Z mar
[23:28] <duffydack> !ccsm | mar
[23:28] <duffydack> mar, the place windows plugin
[23:29] <duffydack> damn Z key
[23:29] <jerry_> can some one help me i have a sound problem
[23:29] <mar> i don't see workspaces there, only x y
[23:30] <duffydack> mar, in ccsm, fixed window placement, fixed viewport
[23:30] <andres_> how can i open muy usb memory
[23:30] <unsober> I'm installing Ubuntu on a drive that already has WinXP. When I try to continue, I get the message "The NTFS partition has no mount point. If you continue, the partition will be unusable."  Do I just continue, or give my WinXP partition a mount point?
[23:30] <arooni-mobile> if i get an ossciliating temperature of PROCHOT-0 to PROCOHT-1 on my core 2 duo, via the BIOS, does that mean its too hot?
[23:30] <duffydack> mar,  so workspace 4 would be x = 4 y = 1
[23:30] <mar> ok
[23:31] <jerry_> why isnt anyone helping me
[23:31] <duffydack> x = horizontal, y = vertical  (if you have 8 like me)
[23:31] <Adzy> Jerry Whats the problem?
[23:31] <Adzy> have you tied the system diagnostics?
[23:31] <jerry_> ok i try to play music and it says failed to connect to stream too large
[23:32] <andres_> how can i open muy usb memory i want to view my files
[23:32] <mar> duffydack: looks like it works. is there a possibility to move to specified workspace when i open it?
[23:32] <duffydack> mar, right click it, move to workspace, or use expo plugin and drag it
[23:33] <alket> I would like to invite you to [IRC] #category5 [WEB] http://www.category5.tv , It's technology TV and they talk too much about Ubuntu , today is 3rd aniversary , please join , show will start about 20 min
[23:33] <unsober> I'm installing Ubuntu on a drive that already has WinXP. When I try to continue, I get the message "The NTFS partition has no mount point. If you continue, the partition will be unusable." Do I just continue, or give my WinXP partition a mount point? I'm trying to dual boot
[23:33] <Adzy> andres <-- open a new folder etc desktop then click the little computer screen icon up top
[23:33] <duffydack> mar, oh sorry, er...  I was somewhere else then..   doesnt it flash in panel when you open it?
[23:33] <Adzy> should show ya usb there
[23:34] <arooni-mobile> how do i measure CPU temperature on ubuntu 10.04?
[23:34] <jerry_> hello
[23:34] <duffydack> mar, I`m not aware of any way to goto that workspace.. some things highlight in panel when opened, like my xchat..which I click and takes me there.
[23:34] <alket> arooni-mobile, install lmsensors
[23:35] <duffydack> mar, its just as easy if you use scale or expo plugin, then its a click away
[23:35] <arooni-mobile> there is no lmsesnsors
[23:35] <acidflash> i have a problem in ubuntu 10.04 server.. i am unable in no way shape or form to change the number of maximum file descriptors per user..
[23:35] <acidflash> i have tried editing the /etc/security/limits.conf and adding entries but to no avail
[23:35] <acidflash> i am limited to 1024 descriptors... how can i fix this?
[23:36] <alket> arooni-mobile, sorry lm-sensors
[23:36] <alket> arooni-mobile, sudo apt-get install lm-sensors , then type just sensors
[23:36] <alket> arooni-mobile, or you can use conky i think
[23:36] <arooni-mobile> ok CPU temperature is 68C on both cores.  is that too high?
[23:36] <jerry_> adzy pm
[23:36] <duffydack> jerry_, I`m no audiophile, but what program are you using.
[23:37] <xbonesx> looking for some cairo-dock support, #cairo-dock channel is dead
[23:37] <unsober> that sounds pretty high, arooni-mobile
[23:37] <arooni-mobile> i also get an ossciliating temperature of PROCHOT-0 to PROCOHT-1 in the BIOS.  this is for a core 2 duo proc
[23:37] <jerry_> what do u mean
[23:37] <andres_> adzy
[23:38] <duffydack> jerry_, what program is running when you try to play the music ?
[23:38] <Adzy> yes andres
[23:38] <Adzy> ?
[23:38] <andres_> adzy i cant find what u say i know where home is
[23:39] <pdot> How do i allow all ports incoming just for my LAN, while at the same time, deny all incoming from the internet? Do i type sudo ufw default deny, then sudo ufw allow from <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to any?????????
[23:41] <unsober> I'm installing Ubuntu on a drive that already has WinXP. When I try to continue, I get the message "The NTFS partition has no mount point. If you continue, the partition will be unusable." Do I just continue, or give my WinXP partition a mount point? I'm trying to dual boot
[23:41] <pdot> How do i allow all ports incoming just for my LAN, while at the same time, deny all incoming from the internet? Do i type sudo ufw default deny, then sudo ufw allow from <IP_ADDRESS>/24 to any?????????
[23:41] <andres_> adzy how can i know if my usb ports are working
[23:41] <Adzy> check your PM andres_
[23:42] <unsober> does anyone have any idea what I do?
[23:43] <VCoolio> unsober: if you want access to the windows partition from ubuntu, give it a mountpoint; if you're scared to screw it up, then don't, but remember to add a line in /etc/fstab if you want access later after all
[23:43] <unsober> Do you think giving it a mount point might damage or mess up my windows installation?
[23:43] <unsober> and thanks VCoolio
[23:44] <VCoolio> unsober: no; just don't format it and it will stay the same, but the mountpoint enables you to mount and browse it
[23:44] <unsober> ok, great, thanks
[23:44] <unsober> also, where should i mount it? is there a default mounting point
[23:45] <VCoolio> unsober: something like /media/windows   something in /media is common usage
[23:45] <unsober> thank you
[23:45] <turtle_> grrr. if i gotta remux the mkvs into a .vob file, what the hell do i map the MediaTomb mimetype to...
[23:45] <duffydack>  no love for /mnt not more :(
[23:45] <VCoolio> duffydack: sorry, that was even before my time
[23:46] <duffydack> turtle_,  mkv to vob/dvd?  devede.
[23:46] <brishu> hey folks, I'm having problems with my rhythmbox, everytime I try to change my volume with rhythmbox, this ( http://i54.tinypic.com/rkvmgn.jpg ) happens, it hangs up the computer for ~30-1m before it pops up, does anyone know how to correct this problem?
[23:46] <jerry_> hello i need help
[23:46] <turtle_> devede?
[23:46] <duffydack> turtle_, yes.. makes you a dvd
[23:46] <turtle_> im not doing any transcoding
[23:46] <duffydack> turtle_, it encodes, not transcodes.
[23:47] <turtle_> tis what i meant :)
[23:47] <duffydack> ok.
[23:47] <turtle_> the ps3 doesn't play mkvs straight off, so you have to mux them into a vob apparently
[23:47] <jerry_> plzzzzz
[23:48] <VCoolio> jerry_: just ask your question every five minutes or so; be patient; if someone knows, there will be a reply; if not, no one will remember your issue with just 'I still need help'
[23:48] <bazhang> jerry_, ask a question
[23:48] <duffydack> turtle_, I dont own a ps3.. what is it thats special
[23:49] <jerry_> my im trying to play music and then it says failed to connect to stream too large
[23:50] <turtle_> i wouldnt own a ps3 either, its my landlords
[23:50] <turtle_> im just trying to get some HD streaming on the go
[23:50] <duffydack> turtle_, ive made a few dvd from mkv, containing the original ac3 to speed up encode,  quality lost is negligable...
[23:51] <duffydack> but of course, I`m using a crappy tv :)
[23:51] <jerry_> im haveing a sound problem plz help
[23:52] <turtle_> I sell tv's for a living so im very picky about quality
[23:52] <Lavagolemking> What package is the "Connect to server" applet from?
[23:52] <Lavagolemking> I think I broke it.
[23:52] <duffydack> jerry_, (again) what program are you using to play music.
[23:52] <Jon--> Suddenly having problems launching Eclipse on my Ubuntu machine. Bit of a serious problem I do all of my C++ and Java development in Eclipse. Anyone with experience that can help me?
[23:52] <jerry_> movie player
[23:53] <mhfs> hey guys .. can someone point me a direction on how to share a Linux folder with a OS X machine?
[23:53] <duffydack> jerry_, ok, rule it out by installing something else.  VLC or Audacious for instance.
[23:53] <jerry_> it use to work before i upgraded to 10.4
[23:53] <jerry_> like i get no sound now
[23:54] <duffydack> jerry_, oh upgrade..  I cant help.  afaic, upgrades are a waste of everyones time..
[23:54] <JEEB> turtle_, IIRC the PS3 only supports high profile, up to level 41 features in H.264. So as long as those things are met, you should be able to remux to mp4 with mp4box (part of GPAC) or into a transport stream with tsmuxer.
[23:54] <jerry_> i upgraded then it stoped
[23:54] <pipeep> hey guiz, my computer's hd randomly marks itself as readonly
[23:55] <andres_> hello
[23:55] <duffydack> jerry_,  is your /home on a seperate partition?
[23:55] <kain_> hi, i keep on forgetting the syntax to use to open a program (ex: gedit) in terminal but still be able to write commands in terminal, can anyone help*
[23:55] <andres_> how can i open muy usb memory i want to view my files
[23:55] <pipeep> get's kinda annoying, cause I have to shut down and run fsck
[23:55] <jerry_> i dont understand
[23:55] <pipeep> about once a month
[23:55] <pipeep> any clue what's happening?
[23:56] <pipeep> I thought it might be a bad SMART status, but lo and behold Disk Utility reports everything is just fine and dandy
[23:56]  * duffydack thinks ubuntu should stop allowing upgrades...
[23:56] <Lavagolemking> Can someone help me fix the Connect to server item in the Places menu?
[23:56] <pipeep> how am I supposed to run my computer for longer than a month straight like this?
[23:57] <pipeep> andres_, what do you mean, flashdrive?
[23:57] <duffydack> andres_, plug it in, use it.
[23:57] <jerry_> and i changed the user setting to administrator
[23:58] <madjoe> Does anyone know for a docklet that shows a single line as a monthly calendar? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... etc.
[23:58] <Jon--> Suddenly having problems launching Eclipse on my Ubuntu machine. Bit of a serious problem I do all of my C++ and Java development in Eclipse. Anyone with experience that can help me?
[23:58] <duffydack> jerry_, personally, I advise you install clean..thats just me.. as far as 9.10 > 10.04 goes..
[23:58] <extraclassic> if i'm setting up nfs, in my /etc/exports will it work to put /dev/sdb instead of a directory
[23:59] <duffydack> jerry_, Ive seen nothing but misery from those upgrades.
[23:59] <andres_> pipeep, duffydack i plug it in but i dont know where it is
[23:59] <jerry_> but if i reinstall i lose all my files


[22:36] <temoto> Upstart runs all "start on runlevel 2" scripts in paralel?
[22:38] <damjan> yes
[22:40] <Zeqadious> damjan: you ever get around to toying with those arch upstart scripts?
[22:40] <damjan> Zeqadious: I've made my first successfull boot of Upstart on ArchLinux
[22:41] <Zeqadious> ah
[22:41] <damjan> I'm starting /etc/rc.sysinit and rc.multi now
[22:41] <Zeqadious> i know you were interested in 0.5 versions: http://zeqadious.homelinux.net/junkbin/upstart-0.5.1-jobs/
[22:41] <Zeqadious> if it helps
[22:41] <damjan> so that I'm compatible with Arch as it is
[22:41] <Zeqadious> again based directly from Arch
[22:42] <temoto> damjan: that's awesome, thank you.
[22:42] <damjan> Zeqadious: I also made a multi-instance agetty script
[22:43] <Zeqadious> damjan: i would interested in seeing that :)
[22:43] <damjan> so basically, instead of having a separate script for each tty
[22:43] <Zeqadious> i tried to write a arch stype stat_busy stat_done stuff for upstart, but its quite flakey
[22:43] <Zeqadious> oh thats cool
[22:44] <temoto> start on stopped sysinit/kernel-logger RESULT=ok       <- how does it work?
[22:44] <damjan> I have one,  instance $TTY; exec /sbin/agetty -8 38400 $TTY linux
[22:45] <damjan> Zeqadious: and I have another script that starts all of the instances when rc.multi is stopped
[22:45] <damjan> temoto: sysinit/kernel-logger is a job
[22:45] <temoto> damjan: sorry, i mean "RESULT=ok"
[22:45] <damjan> when it's stopped (i.e. successfully run) your other script will run then
[22:45] <Zeqadious> if kernel-logger exits with status=1 it won't
[22:46] <temoto> exitcode?
[22:46] <damjan> temoto: each Unix process has a return value
[22:46] <temoto> aha
[22:46] <damjan> yeah like ecitcode
[22:46] <temoto> thanks, now i get it
[22:46] <temoto> errorlevel on windows
[22:46] <iamthelostboy> hi.. i have a upstart job getting started by an application emitting an event.. it is mostly working, except that upstart isnt terminating as I would expect.. i have cut the job down to a single 'exec xinit <app> <params>'
[22:47] <temoto> RESULT=ok and RESULT=0 is same?
[22:47] <damjan> Zeqadious: http://www.netsplit.com/2008/04/19/upstart-05-job-lifetime/ .. about instances
[22:48] <temoto> My ubuntu 9.04 has upstart 0.3.9 .. wow, i did expect something newer.
[22:48] <Zeqadious> damjan: nice stuff
[22:49] <temoto> damjan: are you developer of upstart?
[22:49] <damjan> temoto: no
[22:50] <damjan> far from it :)
[22:50] <Zeqadious> thats Scott's blog
[22:50] <damjan> Zeqadious: so these jobs you have, this is a port from rc.sysinit right?
[22:51] <Zeqadious> yes
[22:51] <damjan> k
[22:51] <Zeqadious> i have upstart job scripts for dbus, acpid, hal, networkmanager, crond, and syslog-ng too
[22:51] <Zeqadious> so far*
[22:51] <Zeqadious> they are ... problematic
[22:52] <temoto> I have two for memcacheq and mongodb :)
[22:53] <temoto> Zeqadious: what's problematic in crond or syslog?
[22:53] <Zeqadious> temoto: those seem to work 100%, however the others tend to not honor the start on stanza rules
[22:54] <temoto> Zeqadious: you mean tens of "and stopped" ?
[22:54] <Zeqadious> damjan: here is my 'current in use scripts' however they aren't quite compatable with Arch Linux anymore.  But please feal to free to steal if you like anything http://zeqadious.homelinux.net/zizzy-linux/i686/abs/core/upstart-jobs/
[22:57] <damjan> I need to do the shutdown part... couldn't find much documentation about it for Upstart
[22:58] <Zeqadious> i have problems because my data partition is always in use and can't be unmounted
[22:58] <Zeqadious> lol
[22:58] <Zeqadious> the command 'reboot' works 100%
[22:58] <Zeqadious> ctrl+alt+delete 0%
[22:59] <temoto> So on ubuntu using upstart 0.3.9 i can create directories, not only job files? upstart runs like /etc/event.d/*/* ?
[22:59] <damjan> yes
[22:59] <temoto> cool
[22:59] <temoto> start on RESULT=failed    now what this mean?
[22:59] <damjan> when exitcode is not 0
[22:59] <temoto> RESULT of what?
[23:00] <Zeqadious> anything
[23:00] <temoto> uh
[23:00] <temoto> any other upstart job?
[23:00] <Zeqadious> yes
[23:00] <temoto> Zeqadious: it's your jobs.d/sulogin
[23:01] <Zeqadious> temoto: i'm aware
[23:02] <temoto> hm.. if anything fails - sulogin.
[23:02] <temoto> What if /sbin is not mounted - then sulogin job fails and upstart runs another one?
[23:03] <damjan> temoto: if /sbin is not mounted, upstart will not start either
[23:03] <Zeqadious> lol
[23:03] <temoto> right
[23:04] <temoto> But what if /sbin would be unmounted after upstart starts?
[23:04] <temoto> ..and anything fails
[23:05] <Zeqadious> system required boot files reside in /{bin,sbin,lib,etc} per fhs.  they are required to be there for boot.
[23:05] <damjan> temoto: upstart (and sysvinit) are /sbin/init, can't be umounted
[23:06] <temoto> fs can't be unmounted while program started from it is running?
[23:06] <Zeqadious> temoto: /usr, /var, and /home are often on other partitions however
[23:07] <damjan> temoto: yes, it can't
[23:09] <temoto> hm.. all this start on stopped this and stopped that.. it's possible (and Zeqadious did) to build a complex dependancy tree.
[23:10] <temoto> But it's very hard to see this dependancies with just browsing files.
[23:10] <temoto> There must be some kind of sysv-rc-conf program to manage jobs via UI.
[23:11] <damjan> yeah it can be hard to debug
[23:11] <Zeqadious> as the dev's of most projects seem fond of saying, "patches welcome"
[23:11] <Zeqadious> :)
[23:11] <damjan> a simple tool showing the dependency tree would be nice
[23:11] <temoto> so not yet?
[23:11] <Zeqadious> temoto: not that i'm aware
[23:11] <temoto> i see
[23:12] <Zeqadious> my scripts certainly aren't 100% yet anyway. closer to 70% and rough.
[23:12] <Zeqadious> the status messages are very* problematic because of the parallel jobs :)
[23:13] <temoto> Zeqadious: btw in one your job file i saw you put \ at the end of lines in 'start on' stanza. In other job i see no \.
[23:13] <Zeqadious> see previous line.
[23:14] <temoto> Zeqadious: so that's syntax error?
[23:14] <Zeqadious> technically yes, but it will still work.
[23:15] <temoto> erh..?
[23:15] <temoto> I think they 100% must not require \, that would make jobs readable.
[23:21] <Zeqadious> damjan: do you happen to know if the environment jobs run in is 100% posix compliant (eg. dash) or the regular 100% posix based (eg. bash)?
[23:21] <Zeqadious> damjan: i get the feeling from working on this for a while that its probably /bin/sh
[23:22] <damjan> I don't know
[23:22] <Zeqadious> oh well
[23:22] <temoto> Zeqadious: > script instead gives shell script code that will be executed using /bin/sh
[23:22] <damjan> I think I've read somewhere about the implementation of script, but that was long time ago
[23:22] <temoto> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[23:24] <Zeqadious> at least for version 0.3.9 anyway
[23:24] <Zeqadious> probably still the same however.
[23:25] <damjan> paths.h:#define SHELL "/bin/sh"
[23:25] <Zeqadious> nice


[09:33] <sacarde> hi
[09:33] <sacarde> in alternate install Lubuntu, there is a singulare way to configurein alternate install Lubuntu, there is a singulare way to configurein alternate install Lubuntu, there is a singulare way to configure keyboard keyboard keyboard
[09:33] <sacarde> ... sorry
[09:34] <sacarde> by pressing some keys to recognize keyboard
[09:34] <sacarde> is possible to start this in a installed system?
[11:38] <cjwatson> it's in the cdebconf-keystep source package, but as far as I know nobody's ever done the work to integrate that in such a way that it could run in an installed system, sorry
[15:28] <mpt> Does anyone have handy a screenshot of the “Turn off Secure Boot” option on the “Updates and other software” screen? <https://goo.gl/8sRxU9>
[15:28] <mpt> (I’d like to see it to work out if there’s enough room for other stuff on that screen.)
[15:38] <mpt> Ah, I found it … Okay, who told GTK to make that line of text unwrappable. :-/ <https://askubuntu.com/questions/867955/after-installation-do-i-still-need-to-remember-or-protect-the-secure-boot-passw>
[15:42] <mpt> (Also, changed “security key” to “password” in two out of three places)


[02:33] <LeoNerd> marioxcc: No. I usually do that by creating new sibling directories with  .BRANCHNAME  suffixed on their names
[02:34] <LeoNerd> You can easily create one with e.g.  bzr push ../This-Thing.BRANCH
[02:34] <marioxcc> LeoNerd: Ok.
[02:34] <marioxcc> LeoNerd: In the time before you reply I found a “bzr-col” for “co-located” branches. This seems to be what I want, except that it seems to be dead (last release is from 2012 I think).
[02:35] <marioxcc> Are you aware of something like it?
[02:35] <LeoNerd> Nope. Though I don't really use anything like that
[02:35] <LeoNerd> I prefer to have different working trees, because I tend to have lots of derived tempories (i,e. compiled code and the like), so I like to keep them in different places too
[02:47] <marioxcc> LeoNerd: Ok, thanks.
[11:07] <Walex> marioxcc: LeoNerd: checkouts can approximate that, as in http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.7/en/user-reference/checkouts-help.html
[11:08] <Walex> there is: "Another possible use for a checkout is to use it with a treeless repository containing your branches, where you maintain only one working tree by switching the master branch that the checkout points to when you want to work on a different branch."
[23:59] <jelmer> LeoNerd: colocated branches in the git/mercurial style are supported by default in bzr >= 2.5, but the syntax for addressing them is still a bit annoying ("file://blah,branch=foo")


[01:05] <jose> nhaines: that means we've started the third world war?
[01:59] <nhaines> jose: I guess we were overdue for Khan to start the Eugenics War.  :)
[08:26] <dholbach> good morning
[08:47] <nhaines> dholbach: morgen.  :)
[08:47] <dholbach> hi nhaines :)
[08:48] <nhaines> hiya dholbach.    Unfortunately I didn't manage to get sound working in time.  :)
[08:53] <dholbach> still - great work! :)
[08:54] <nhaines> Thank you!  Actually it was a good way to talk about how Ubuntu is meant to be experienced on purpose-built phones, but how the community could port phones nonetheless.
[09:02] <dholbach> nice :-D
[09:02] <dholbach> how did the porting go so far?
[09:03] <nhaines> Well, I used MultiROM boot and rsalvetti's -hammerhead-armelf.zip file, and then just the standard 4.4.2 rootfs.
[09:03] <nhaines> For sound, the files posted on the ML enabled them, although it's a bit staticky occasionally.  I haven't looked into this.
[09:04] <nhaines> I am considering setting up an automated build system on a VPS so I can use the built-in image updater.
[09:05] <dholbach> that'd be awesome - you'd make a lot of people very happy
[09:05] <dholbach> might be worth chatting with rsalveti and people like ogra to see what could be done on Canonical servers somewhere and how to set things up
[09:06] <nhaines> That would be optimal actually... my poor bandwidth.  :)
[09:06] <nhaines> Since hammerhead will be supported for 14.10 (maybe) and it's basically running perfectly anyhow.
[10:26] <Bending_Spoons> hi, is anyone actively in this chat room?
[11:52] <nik90> Bending_Spoons: this room is only actively during a live video session
[11:52] <nik90> s/actively/active
[12:02] <Bending_Spoons> nik90 can you tell me where I can find the schedule for these hangouts?
[12:02] <nik90> Bending_Spoons: http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/
[12:03] <nik90> Bending_Spoons: I just realised that all useful links are in the header btw
[12:06] <Bending_Spoons> nik90 yeah I just noticed that too
[18:34] <Jppdan> hey bros
[18:35] <Jppdan> first time in the #ubuntu-on-air IRC
[18:58] <simion314> hi
[18:58] <ahayzen> jono, we can see u :)
[18:58] <simion314> yes, I can see you
[19:01] <nik90> hello everyone
[19:01] <michele__> hi all
[19:01] <dickface> Hey dick head
[19:02] <jose> QUESTION: Looks like you have ConFlu?
[19:02] <pulu90_> I see you!
[19:02] <dickface> sorry
[19:03] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: Linux Mint vs Ubuntu? What's best, and what makes the one you think is best, better than the other one? :)
[19:03] <jose> QUESTION: Is something going to change on the phone foundations with the swap from upstart to systemd?
[19:03] <michele__> QUESTION: WHY CANONICAL DECIDED TO DEVELOP MIR, MOREOVER 14.10 WILL BE BASED ON MIR?
[19:04] <dickface> SORRY FOR BEING A DICK
[19:04] <nik90> QUESTION: When can we expect the new Unity 8 Dash and Scopes shown at MWC to land in the Ubuntu Phones? Can't wait!
[19:05] <dgeorgiev> QUESTION: Are there plans for an deal with adobe for their CC in ubuntu?
[19:05] <jono> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2014/02/ubuntu-development-update-presentation/
[19:06] <ahayzen> QUESTION: What is more important for Ubuntu about going to MWC, getting OEMs interested in Ubuntu or brand awareness to potential mobile customers/consumers?
[19:07] <jono> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2014/02/introducing-our-new-scopes-technology/
[19:07] <iBobX> Hello Jono! QUESTION: Is there any Ubuntu version that comes with MIR display server for testing purposes? how this technology is going regarding the integration with X11 apps?
[19:08] <rstreeter> QUESTION: When will Unity 8 and MIR be fully implemented on the desktop?
[19:11] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: Will there be added an opportunity in the near future to add separators to the Unity panel? I think it's kinda annoying that you can't organize your apps.. It's making me a lot confused.
[19:13] <justin86> QUESTION: Do you think, that some of major manufacturers, such as Samsung, can potentially choose Ubuntu instead of their secondary-OS, such as Tizen, that Samsung use in some phones?
[19:13] <comeinme> WHAT ABOUT MAC PUP?
[19:13] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: when Ubuntu Touch is finished, will it come with apps for Google's services (Google Now, Maps, Gmail, etc.)?  If not, will Google support Ubuntu Touch in the future?
[19:14] <michele__> thanks Jono
[19:14] <Nivex> QUESTION: Given Mir and Wayland do similar things (lightweight display), could there be a translation layer between the two that's still lighter than X11?
[19:15] <simion314> QUESTION: I read about a Unity8 preview for desktop, can now people submit patches for desktop parts of Unity or the developers are  waiting until next cycle before adding any line of code desktop specific
[19:16] <dgeorgiev> CC = Creative Cloud, http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud.html
[19:16] <Andris_> QUESTION Hi, is there a possibility that Ubuntu will support the Nexus 5? I would really love to use Ubuntu on my phone and even create a couple of apps, but as I bought the phone just recently, at least for a year or two I'm stuck with it.
[19:16] <KarielG0> Hello Jono, this is going to be long and in few parts: few days ago I read an article on OMG about that Canonical will gain fees from phone mannufacturers from making Ubuntu Phones, is this open source policy? Ubuntu is gaining money from phone mannufacturers, in this article I also read that Ubuntu is gathering fees from computer mannufacturers, very damn open source. How do you want to make open source more popular by wanti
[19:16] <KarielG0> What if I have a home computer service and I wanted to promote Ubuntu and I installed Ubuntu on the computers? Maybe not for inviduals but just gaining money is horrible, really bad policy! How long shall we wait 'til Canonical makes everything Ubuntu on their own licences and start to sell it? I asked you last week about Ubuntu One not being competitive, Canonical isn't as bad as comercial companies
[19:17] <KarielG0> it's even worse, it has more income-oriented policy than other companies like Google, Google doesn't gather fees from phones with Android as well as computers with Chrome OS. Do you want to sell it? Fine! But please, then make Ubuntu work good (right now I'm on Sabayon which is more stable than 12.04LTS and has newest packages, how hard is it to make a stable distro!?), please then don't ask people for donations
[19:17] <KarielG0> then please don't use other peoples work who made all the apps, who made GNOME? What does Canonical want to tell them that they are gathering big money on their hard work for which they don't get anything? It's nothing personal Jono, you're really great and sorry for asking you something very offensive to your company but I just had to say this.
[19:18] <nikwen> @KarielG0: Add "QUESTION:" in front of your questions if you want them to be answered. ;)
[19:18] <Kernellinux> QUESTION: Why is Ubuntu focusing so hard on mobile? Microsoft and Apple both are moving towards mobile and it seems as there is a real need for a company to focus on a solid desktop OS
[19:19] <iBeliever> QUESTION: With the new header designs, will there still be a swipe-up toolbar?
[19:19] <sdru> QUESTION: does mir currently support laptop touchpads/mouses/keyboards? If so, does it use the current X input drivers?
[19:19] <Gnoxy> QUESTION: If I buy an ubuntu phone, how long will I get updates for the phone? Bought phones in the past that has been abandoned with all kind of bugs.
[19:20] <matlux> how many ubuntu users are there?
[19:20] <Markcortbass> QUESTION: WIll Canonical show a preview video from Unity 8 for the Desktop this MobileWorldCongress? That would be great
[19:21] <iBobX> THANKS!
[19:22] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: What do you think about Steve Jobs? How he got thrown out of Apple, and that he chose to co-operate with Microsoft at his return? :)
[19:22] <sdru> QUESTION: Atm can Mir support changing a display's brightness?
[19:23] <nik90> QUESTION: What's the number one app that you are missing on Ubuntu Touch (other than email) ?
[19:23] <matlux> QUESTION:how many ubuntu users are there?
[19:23] <rstreeter> QUESTION: How is the new book coming along? Art of Community was an awesome read
[19:24] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:24] <Ubuntu-fan94> QUESTION What is some advice you could offer to someone learning to develop their first app?
[19:24] <sdru> QUESTION: is video playback (on vlc for example) hw accelerated on Ubuntu for smartphones? And is html5 <video> hw accelerated?
[19:25] <jimmyjames> Question : I was thinking about trying out ubuntu gnome but on distrowatch it shows no update for quite some time while ubuntu is always update, should I be concern about lack of updates for gnome ubuntu ?
[19:26] <lei> QUESTION; will there be adobe photoshop and a intergrated weather app on desktop and by the way i got ubuntu touch running great on my htc mytouch
[19:28] <Ubuntix> when can we expect the first stable release of ubuntu touch? Is there a smartphone with ubuntu touch going to be released? Like from Bq or Meizu
[19:28] <sdru> QUESTION: is LTE supported?
[19:28] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: In a previous Q&A session, you told me that Canonical’s app store will not be curated, but that Ubuntu users are safe because of sandboxing.  I’d like to repond that sandboxing alone doesn’t provide complete security, as the master key vulnerability (and other vulnerabilities) of Android have shown.  So I’d like to ask this: if Canonical’s app store isn’t curated, will they run every new app submi
[19:28] <Bending_Spoons> ... runs new app submissions to their Play store through Bouncer?
[19:29] <Nivex> QUESTION: Given Canonical's shifting focus to mobile, what does the timeline look like for enabling IPv6 in the infrastructure to support this?
[19:30] <KarielG0> QUESS Ubuntu won't be free, these fees we pay, not the mannufacturers, there are lots of distrubutions which don't need to make money, you base Ubuntu on Linux kernel or GNOME which are completely free, you're paying for optional codecs and other things that are optional. Like I said in the other part which you didn't read that f.ex. Google isn't gathering any fees and remember that you're also making money on free work of ot
[19:30] <lei> QUESTION: will there be photo shop adobe coming to ubuntu and will there be an intergrated weather and calendar app on the desktop
[19:30] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Where did you get that Mac from, that was showing?  The one intead of Windows for music now.
[19:32] <matlux> QUESTION : Will you make Edge phones one day?
[19:32] <Kernellinux> QUESTION: Any chance of seeing more Ubuntu use from people who work at Ubuntu...I see a lot of Macs, notice the computer behind you even?
[19:33] <Dedaspa> QUESTION: Last time I watched the stream I asked a question if you were allowed to make Facebook pages so people can write in if they have problems with their Ubuntu. So they can get a fast answer. Is it allowed? Or do me and my friends need permission from Canonical?
[19:34] <SimonK1> QUESTION: how long will the released Phone-Hardware (Bq) be updated software-wiese?
[19:35] <KarielG0> QUESTION: as in the other part, Google doesn't ask for donations, then why Canonical is?
[19:36] <SimonK1> QUESTION-REPHRASED: how long will the released Phones (Bq) be updated OS-wiese? Will it get feature-updates? will it get security updates?
[19:38] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: Will any Ubuntu Phones feature removable batteries and either decent amounts of memory (32 or more GB)?  Or an SD card slot?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: What are your coments about how Ubuntu will switch to SystemD like most distro's instead of using Canonical's own Upstart?  To me it seems the switch is mainly just since Debian is switching, but is that really the case?
[19:38] <Andris_> QUESTION Does wireless charging and bluetooth music streaming work on Ubuntu touch?
[19:39] <SimonK1> QUESTION: will we be able to install/run steam-games on x86 tablets using Unity8?
[19:39] <jimmyjames> QUESTION : I have been using linux since 1994 and by far no contest Ubuntu has givin the open source community the best platform to date hands down, Red Hat doesn't even come close to providing a easier way to use linux, you guys keep rolling and make all the money you can all nay sayers can just piss off, parton my french
[19:39] <snwh> Take everything jono is saying and that applies to indie developers too.
[19:40] <normanthegerbil> QUESTION: Will more devices be officially supported by ubuntu touch at some point in the future?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Did you wait untill you were sure your music software would all work on Mac before  switching away from the WIndows computer you were using before for music, or what's the story here?
[19:41] <matlux> QUESTION : How many viruses have there been for Ubuntu so far?
[19:41] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Sorry I am late, can you briefly go over what you talked about so far.
[19:42] <lei> QUESTION: will ubuntu use btrfs from top to bottom
[19:42] <sebsebseb> QUESTION:  How was the event you went to over the weekend?  What was it OSCON or something?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> what did you do there as well?
[19:44] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: What companies think about Mir? Are they glad that you are willing to go against the grain to better your product or do they even care?
[19:44] <Nivex> ooh, good question lei. btrfs has a TON of potential.
[19:44] <Markcortbass> QUESTION: Will Canonical show something at the MobileWorldCongress 2014? I don't have seen much news
[19:45] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: I still want your job. I was thinking about working within the Ubuntu community to help get a start on that path. Where should I begin and what should I focus on.
[19:45] <sebsebseb> QUESTON:  Which big OEM's in 2015 do you think will ship Ubuntu PHone?  if you know tell us heh heh, if you  don't take a guess, I mean heh heh
[19:46] <rstreeter> QUESTION: Will minimize on click ever be brought back?
[19:46] <matlux> QUESTION : What's the most money donated to Ubuntu at once?
[19:47] <lei> QUESTON: will there be compressed memory like mavericks
[19:47] <Gnoxy> QUESTION: Can you say this out loud "Im going to give the entire IRC-channel their own ubuntu phone on release"
[19:47] <SimonK1> QUESTION: will 2 graphic-cards be supported by Mir? (Intel + ATI)
[19:48] <snwh> QUESTION: can you cough once if HTC is making an Ubuntu phone?
[19:48] <Gnoxy> NAILD IT
[19:49] <Nivex> lei: there's zswap now. I also played with some compressed RAM stuff awhile ago but I forgot the name of it.
[19:49] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: How do you feel about the rise of design focused distro like Numix OS who are focus purely on design but not much technical knowledge.
[19:49] <lei> QUESTON:will there snapshots enable
[19:49] <toddc_> jono thanks for working when sick today!
[19:50] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Will they Canonical/Mark let you go back to bed after the session since your ill? :d
[19:50] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: I am considering buying a smartphone soon.  It will be my first smartphone.  I don't know if I can wait for the first Ubuntu phones to come out, so I might get an Android phone and maybe later get a Ubuntu phone (maybe).  If I decide to do that, will it be possible to take whatever Android apps I've downloaded or purchased and install them on the Ubuntu phone?
[19:50] <Ubuntix> i want that phone now!
[19:50] <SimonK1> QUESTION: Will we be able to install deb packages (of main repository or ppa) be installable on Ubuntu-Phone/Tablet?
[19:50] <Markcortbass> SERIOUS QUESTION: Could you play the bass? :))
[19:50] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Can you tell Mark to cut the beard? I dig the sage look but it's not really him.
[19:51] <Gnoxy> Not a QUESTION: Keep up the good work man!  It takes half your ram and makes it compressable.
[19:52] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: Playing some guitar at the end for us, may make you feel a bit better?
[19:53] <justin86> QUESTION: Apple relies on ARM heavily in iphone/ipad. AMD now provides ARM based Opteron for servers. Nvidia promises high performance ARM with Denver. Do you believe, that x86 is doomed in consumer electronics in near future?
[19:54] <terabit_> QUESTION: Bq and Meizu ubuntu phone will support function like ubuntu for android?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> QUESTION: What does it say on your t-shirt and wehre you get it from?
[19:55] <armaanfarshori> hello
[19:55] <sebsebseb> Hack I think, but can't realy see it properly enough
[19:56] <halfmast> Jono wireless charging does work on the nexus 4 with Ubuntu touch.
[19:57] <CheeseBurg> Sit ups Jono, time for some sit ups
[19:57] <Bending_Spoons> QUESTION: thanks for the suggestion.  Just to make sure I understood you correctly, you're suggesting that I get a Nexus 4 and install Ubuntu as a dual-boot?
[19:57] <Markcortbass> Great! Love to see 5 string bass !
[20:00] <terabit_> nice!
[20:00] <ChaosEngine> shiiit Jono, U rock
[20:00] <felix__> will there ever be a Google maps app for u4p?
[20:00] <protonuser_1> very good!
[20:01] <Markcortbass> Jono: Relax your arm. That's more comfortable ;)
[20:01] <terabit_> bye
[20:02] <Andris_> Comfy jammies, cozy bed, big soft pillow for your head. Worry not, the world can wait take your time and recuperate.
[20:02] <jono> thanks ChaosEngine!
[20:02] <jono> Bending_Spoons, yep
[20:03] <Markcortbass> Thanks Jono!
[20:03] <jono> thanks!
[20:03] <ahayzen> thanks jono get well soon
[20:03] <sebsebseb> jono: good sesssion
[20:03] <jono> :-)
[20:03] <Nivex> jono: which carrier is your Ubuntu N4 on?
[20:03] <terabit_> :)
[20:03] <jono> you all rock
[20:03] <sebsebseb> jono: enjoy your sleep
[20:03] <terabit_> good night!
[20:04] <Nivex> o/
[20:04] <nik90> jose: thnx for the Q&A despite being sick
[20:18] <boss2022003> i hear you
[20:24] <Dunken> How does the gaming section look like in the future for Ubuntu? Will there be more support for more games?
[20:31] <nik90> jose: I meant jono ... :D
[20:35] <diamond39> hello
[20:43] <soltysss> why not to add click to minimize capabilities to the launcher? I would want to minimize active application from launcher!
[21:48] <ravi4ubuntu> can ubuntu touch comes with these app in software center
[21:49] <ravi4ubuntu> candy crush,whatsapp,netflix,angry bird
[21:50] <ravi4ubuntu> If we are targeting millions users for Ubuntu touch need to see what they are using in daily life
[23:14] <JC-madness> so I cant view this video at a library... dumb old things... anyways, what did I miss? have they came up with a releace date yet?


[00:19] <sweettea> why does eth0 come up as p1p1 now?
[00:34]  * lamont grumbles
[00:35] <lamont> pretty sure that grub should not produce the following when I replace "quiet splash" with "break":
[00:35] <lamont>   Booting a command list
[00:35] <lamont>   Booting a command list
[00:35] <lamont>  /0123456789:;<MNOPQRSTUVWXYZjklmnopqrstuvw��������������������������������������
[00:51] <dragonious> sarnold: RoyK: Thank you guys so much I got everything working with my VirtualHost thanks your expet help!
[00:51] <dragonious> to^
[00:52] <dragonious> sarnold: you can now goto my websites and see what I inteded to be seen :)
[00:53] <dragonious> Thanks again guiys you have been a huge help, this community supported os is realy starting to grow on me and with members like the ones who have assisted me over the last few days, its very easy to see why
[00:55] <Patrickdk> lamont, why not? you told it to *break* :)
[00:55] <zzbooze> Im installing postfix on my ubuntu server.
[00:56] <zzbooze> its not sending mail to my email..
[00:56] <zzbooze> what do i need to edit?
[00:56] <lamont> Patrickdk: heh
[00:59] <sarnold> dragonious: yikes, I still get the joomla! install page :)
[00:59] <zzbooze> Im installing postfix on my ubuntu server.
[00:59] <zzbooze> its not sending mail to my email..
[00:59] <zzbooze> what do i need to edit?
[00:59] <Phatninja55> Any help would be appricated ^
[03:07] <dragonious> Hello guys Im back now Im configuring my email server and Im getting this error pastebin.com/xuBgKmVT
[03:08] <dragonious> Im following the walkthrough on the ubuntu support site for postfix
[03:09] <dragonious> sarnold: you shouldnt get that Joomla!site now ;p
[03:09] <sarnold> dragonious: oh good :)
[03:10] <sarnold> dragonious: hrm. I still get the joomla! page.
[03:10] <sarnold> dragonious: you might want to configure it quick before someone else does.
[03:10] <sarnold> or sudo stop apache2  :)
[03:11] <dragonious> sarnold: you may need to clean you internet cookies :)
[03:11] <TheLordOfTime> s/cookies/cache/
[03:12] <TheLordOfTime> dragonious:  its not conf'd right
[03:12] <TheLordOfTime> i'm getting the same page on virgin chromium
[03:12] <sarnold> dragonious: no... reload, even w3m -dump ... | grep -i joomla show that it is still there.
[03:12] <TheLordOfTime> (i.e. its never been there)
[03:13] <TheLordOfTime> confirm what sarnold said.
[03:13] <TheLordOfTime> i can confirm*
[03:13] <dragonious> sarnold: well I dont see how that can be my people in town here don't see the joomla page
[03:14] <sarnold> dragonious: hehe, who are you going to trust, your buddies sarnold and TheLordOfTime or some folks in your town? :)
[03:14] <TheLordOfTime> dragonious:  did your DNS change at all?
[03:14] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: ooh. good question.
[03:14] <TheLordOfTime> i.e. did you repointn your domain to anything?
[03:14] <TheLordOfTime> because if you changed the DNS, i'll go pull new dns data from $given_nameserver_of_weirdness
[03:14] <dragonious> sarnold: TheLordOfTime: yes I spent an hour with godaddy getting it right
[03:15] <TheLordOfTime> dragonious:  when?
[03:15] <TheLordOfTime> within the past 48 hours?
[03:15] <dragonious> t
[03:15] <TheLordOfTime> or within the past 12?
[03:15] <TheLordOfTime> or within some other timeframe?
[03:15] <dragonious> sarnold: TheLordOfTime: yes within past 12 hours , but like I said everyone locally is seeing the correct page
[03:15] <sarnold> hrm. I looked it up on opera mini on my phone (no way it had it in DNS cache) and _still_ got the joomla page.
[03:16] <sarnold> ah.
[03:16] <sarnold> dragonious: ask your pals to go to www.snapperheadstudios.com -- if I visit http://snapperheadstudios.com/, I get an under-construction page
[03:16] <TheLordOfTime> okay, then the dns hasn't propagated.
[03:16] <TheLordOfTime> and confirmed here too
[03:17] <sarnold> the joomla install is active on http://www.snapperheadstudios.com/  :)
[03:17] <TheLordOfTime> http://snapperheadstudios.com/  <-- points correctly
[03:17] <TheLordOfTime> http://www.snapperheadstudios.com/  <-- AAAAAAAAAA!
[03:17] <sarnold> $ host www.snapperheadstudios.com
[03:17] <sarnold> www.snapperheadstudios.com is an alias for snapperheadstudios.com.
[03:17] <sarnold> snapperheadstudios.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:17] <TheLordOfTime> dragonious:  you need to add a www dns entry in the DNS panel.
[03:17] <TheLordOfTime> point it with an A record to the IP address that you put for snapperheadstudios.com root
[03:18] <sarnold> does host do the lookup all the way to the addresses? or does it just stop with the direct results?
[03:18] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold:  i do dnsget -v -t ANY -n [specified nameserver] [query]
[03:18] <TheLordOfTime> but i like raw verbosity
[03:18]  * TheLordOfTime executes
[03:19] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: heh, I moved to 'host' when all the docs said to stop using 'dig' and 'nslookup', but .. never got any of them well enough to call myself a dns guru
[03:19] <TheLordOfTime> sarnold:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1595548/
[03:19] <sarnold> anyway dinner time :D so good luck, dragonious, get that thing turned off quickly :)
[03:20] <sarnold> TheLordOfTime: aha! thanks. :D
[03:20] <dragonious> sarnold: Its something in my vhost file I dont get it its making me mad brah
[03:20] <dragonious> sarnold: lol
[03:21] <dragonious> sarnold: if you goto snapperheadstudios.com without the .com you get the right page
[03:23] <TheLordOfTime> dragonious:  you mean without the www :P
[03:23] <TheLordOfTime> dragonious:  add in another vhost for www.  dupe the snapperheadstudios.com stuff
[03:23] <TheLordOfTime> it *shoudl* work
[03:23] <TheLordOfTime> or set up a redirect for www -> non-www
[03:23] <TheLordOfTime> idk how you do that in apace
[03:24] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: I ahad it working and now its not I had to add a line for the non www domain
[03:24] <TheLordOfTime> apache*
[03:24] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: I already have a www redirect with go daddy to my IP
[03:25] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: we even setup the FQDN for my sever I just dont get it
[03:27] <TheLordOfTime> you should just redirect www to the non-www domain itself
[03:27] <TheLordOfTime> rather than just the IP point
[03:27] <TheLordOfTime> i.e. if i go to www.blargh.com and there's a web server rewrite/redirect there, saying "Go to blargh.com"
[03:27] <TheLordOfTime> my system will say "Go to blargh.com" and request blargh.com
[03:27] <TheLordOfTime> thereby making SURE i'm iseeing blargh.com
[03:27] <TheLordOfTime> its how i do my www. -> non-www in my site, except i use nginx so its all done behind the scenes
[03:30] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: I think I catch what your saying
[03:38] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: Can you try them both for me now please?
[05:26] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: I fixed it the right way this time ;)
[05:26] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[05:26] <dragonious> changed a line of cade and wala is working nicely try for your self
[05:26] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[05:26] <TheLordOfTime> yep it works
[05:27] <dragonious> Thank you, couldnt have done it with out you guys here helpping me
[05:28] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: now working on the mail server and I fixed my issue I was having at the last step and Im on to the next :)
[05:28]  * TheLordOfTime goes back to stabbing php5's source code with a rusty spork
[05:29] <dragonious> TheLordOfTime: Good Luck with that !!
[05:29] <TheLordOfTime> EVIL!
[05:29] <TheLordOfTime> it is EVIL!  you will not MENTION IT!
[05:30]  * TheLordOfTime shakes a finger at dragonious in a manner indicative of scolding for wishing luck working with php5's evil codebase
[08:31] <linocisco> hi all
[08:32] <linocisco> I have to maintain inventory of SIM cards(WCDMA, GSM, CDMA800 MHz and CDMA450 Mhz) with their Ph no. , issued dates , issued person, credit balance. I dont know which type of software I should use
[08:36] <jpds> linocisco: A database?
[08:36] <linocisco> jpds, a database driven web application
[08:36] <jpds> linocisco: Quite.
[08:37] <linocisco> jpds, I checked glpi. but found no feature to record this type of inventory
[08:44] <eagles0513875_> hey guys im using 12.04 on my servers and squirrelmail I am wondering why on earth does it have a dependency of the apache2 prefork package
[08:52] <soren> eagles0513875_: It doesn't, really. It says: Depends: apache2 | httpd, libapache2-mod-php5 | php5 | php5-cgi, [...]
[08:53] <soren> So any package that is named or that provides either apache2 or httpd satisfies the dependency.
[08:54] <soren> And any package that is named or that provides either libapache2-mod-php5, php5, or php5-cgi satisfies the php dependency.
[08:54] <soren> When APT tries to resolve this, it first looks to see if you these dependencies are already satisfied.
[08:55] <soren> If they're not, it will attempt to satisfy them by installing extra packages. The order in which these options are stated (e.g. libapache2-mod-php5 before php5) denotes the order of preference.
[08:56] <soren> ...and it just so happens that libapache2-mod-php5 prefers apache2-mpm-prefork.
[08:56] <eagles0513875_> soren: it wouldnt let me install event driven package of apache
[08:56] <eagles0513875_> so what does one do to use squirrelmail with apache2-event or worker
[08:58] <soren> eagles0513875_: The question you need to answer is: "How can I do php with apache2-event or worker?"
[08:59] <soren> Is there another collection of packages that one can install that gives you a functional webserver that can handle php?
[08:59] <eagles0513875_> nginx comes to mind
[09:02] <andol> eagles0513875_: Assuming you already had nginx setup it looks like squirrelmail would have been fine with that. Just that apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5 happend to come first in the alt. list
[09:02] <andol> apache2 | httpd, libapache2-mod-php5 | php5 | php5-cgi, perl
[09:02] <eagles0513875_> andol: does that mean if i want to use event or worker i need to setup squirrelmail from source?
[09:03] <soren> eagles0513875_: What needs to be installed for nginx to have php functionality?
[09:03] <soren> eagles0513875_: apache's event mpm doesn't work with php, afair.
[09:03] <andol> eagles0513875_: No, that means if you have any package providing httpd (such as nginx) installed before you install the package squirrelmail it won't ask for apache2.
[09:03] <linocisco> jpds, a database driven web application
[09:04] <eagles0513875_> soren: O_o event or mpm doesnt work with php O_o
[09:04] <eagles0513875_> i honest find that hard to believe soren
[09:05] <soren> eagles0513875_: Ok.
[09:05] <soren> eagles0513875_: It's true, though.
[09:05] <soren> eagles0513875_: php5 isn't thread safe.
[09:07] <eagles0513875_> what alternatives for web mail clients are there soren
[09:07] <soren> eagles0513875_: libapache2-mod-php5 explicitly only lists prefork and itk as possibilities.
[09:07] <eagles0513875_> ok
[09:07] <soren> eagles0513875_: If you can set it up without libapache2-mod-php5, you're fine, though.
[09:07] <soren> Like through fastcgi or something.
[09:07] <eagles0513875_> humm ok
[09:08] <eagles0513875_> soren: what about using wsgi?
[09:08] <soren> eagles0513875_: First you'd have to rewrite squirrelmail in Python.
[09:08] <eagles0513875_> ya i have so many projects and crazy ideas
[09:08] <soren> Why would you want to use wsgi?
[09:09] <soren> wsgi is a Python thing. It doesn't make much sense for squirrelmail.
[09:09] <eagles0513875_> ahh ok
[09:09] <eagles0513875_> didnt realize it was python specific
[10:16] <TuxLof> I need to search and replace a multiline script recursivly in my home directory (all index.php have been hacked). What would be the best way to do this
[10:21] <nocturn> Hi, I have a server with one NIC running KVM VM's.  How do I give my VM's IP addresses in the normal network (instead of a subnet on the VM host)?
[10:23] <jpds> nocturn: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking#Bridged_networking_.28aka_.22shared_physical_device.22.29
[10:24] <nocturn> Thanks jpds
[10:25] <freakynl> Any officials in here? It appears bugs I report in launchpad don't get solved. I posted one many months ago and it's still 'NEW', which doesn't give me much hope for the one I reported yesterday
[10:27] <freakynl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/targetcli/+bug/1021785 <- reported on 6 July 2012! Still new...
[10:27] <drussell> freakynl: try #ubuntu-bugs
[10:27] <freakynl> drussell:
[10:27] <freakynl> thx :)
[10:27] <drussell> freakynl: good luck!
[10:27] <xiaoy> TuxLof, there are many, from command line i would use sed,  find . -iname *.php -exec sed -i ” -e ‘s/hackedText/goodText/’ {} \;
[10:28] <xiaoy> maybe adding a global statement too: ‘s/hackedText/goodText/g
[10:30] <TuxLof> well basically it's a 30 line long php script with all kind of chars in it
[10:30] <TuxLof> which I need to remove from all index php script
[10:31] <xiaoy> s/hackedText//g
[10:31] <xiaoy> find . -iname index.php -exec sed -i ” -e ‘s/hackedText//g’ {} \;
[10:33] <TuxLof> How do I do that when it's multiple lines, slashes quotes all that stuff.
[10:34] <jpds> freakynl: If you want escalation for bugs like that, you might want to buy a canonical support contract. ;)
[10:36] <xiaoy> TuxLof, you could mahe a bash variable to hold all that stuff, taking kare of all the charachters that can be misunderstud by sed, and then pass it to the command
[10:36] <TuxLof> that's a good idea
[10:44] <yolanda2> hi, anyone with experience with bitbucket urls and uscan?
[10:50] <TuxLof> so it'd be something like this: find . -iname index.php -exec sed -i ” -e ‘s/'$VAR1'//g’ {} \;
[10:50] <TuxLof> where $VAR1 are some lines of php code
[11:09] <mkuzu> Hello
[11:09] <mkuzu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1596278/
[11:10] <mkuzu> need help about network file sharing
[11:32] <chmac> Any advice on how to get an email (to root is fine) when there are system updates available?
[11:32] <chmac> I particularly like the layout of the login text that says "X updates are available, Y of them are security updates"
[11:32] <chmac> I guess it feeds the motd somehow, but I'd be interested to get that in my email when they become available...
[11:34] <dizopsin> hi, I am configuring a server with a fairly complex network config in /etc/network/interface (8 phys ports, bonding, vlans, bridging). After some fiddling, everything mostly gets configured ok by upstart now, but it is still unreliable. For example, the bonding type for one of the trunks was set incorrectly during the last boot. Is there a clean way of having /etc/network/interfaces processed "the old way" on 12.04?
[12:37] <ivrok> ау
[12:37] <ivrok> есть кто русскоговорящий?
[12:39] <ivrok> вообщем, если есть - прошу помочь. поставил убунту сервер 12.10 стал настраивать и обнаружил сейчас, что нету файла /proc/net/ip_conntrack
[12:40] <ivrok> в ядре нетфильтер установлен
[12:40] <ivrok> полазил по гуглу - он мне сказал, что подключает командой modprobe ip_conntrack
[12:41] <ivrok> lsmod | grep conntrack дает следующее
[12:41] <ivrok> nf_conntrack_ipv4      14080  3 iptable_nat,nf_nat
[12:41] <ivrok> nf_conntrack           66307  3 iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4
[12:41] <ivrok> nf_defrag_ipv4         12649  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
[12:42] <ivrok> типа есть nf_conntrack
[12:42] <ivrok> но файл в указанном месте не появился
[12:53] <ivrok> help me, men!
[12:53] <Myrtti> English would be a good start
[12:53] <Myrtti> don't understand what you were asking
[12:53] <ivrok>  i installed ubuntu server 12.10
[12:54] <ivrok> but i didn't find ip_conntrack in /proc/net/
[12:55] <ivrok> i tried install it throuth modprobe
[12:55] <ivrok> sorry for my language
[13:03] <ivrok> HEEEELP
[13:21] <flcl> hello?
[13:22] <ivrok> хеллоу
[13:22] <flcl> кирилица компетибл?
[13:23] <flcl> 15:21 [ flebel          ] [ neoXsys         ] [ wedgie         ]
[13:23] <flcl> is anyone using irssi? Кто-небудь пользуется irssi?
[13:24] <Pici> yes?
[13:25] <flcl> do you know if it's possible to disable messages like "someone joined/left #ubuntu-server"?
[13:25] <Pici> !quietirssi
[13:25] <Pici> :)
[13:25] <ivrok> кирилица
[13:26] <flcl> thanks!
[13:26] <ivrok> чувак стой
[13:26] <flcl> шотакое?
[13:26] <ivrok> ты лучше меня говоришь по англицки
[13:26] <stetho> Hi - I've set up apt-mirror and PXE on my home server. I've installed the 12.04 live cd on the PXE server and can boot a machine from it. Is there a way to make it use my local mirror instead of going out to the interwebs for its updates during the install?
[13:26] <ivrok> я не могу сформулировать вопрос
[13:26] <flcl> давай помогу
[13:26] <ivrok> вообще поставил сервер убунты
[13:26] <ivrok> а там почему-то не найти ip_conntrack
[13:27] <ivrok> в нем хранятся сессии установленные
[13:27] <ivrok> гугл говорит, что лечится modprobe
[13:27] <ivrok> но ни хрена
[13:28] <flcl> How to find ip_conntrack?
[13:28] <ivrok> в ядре стоит поддержка netfilter
[13:29] <ivrok> по модулям вроде тоже все впорядке
[13:29] <ivrok> но почему-то не работает
[13:29] <flcl> ммм, не уверен, что смогу правильно обьяснить, не понимаю о чем тьі говоришь, щас погуглю что такое ip_conntrack
[13:30] <ivrok> ip_conntrack входит в состав net_filter пакета ядра
[13:30] <ivrok> по умолчанию в убунте уже все включено
[13:30] <ivrok> сам файл располоен должен быть /proc/net/ip_conntrack
[13:31] <ivrok> но его там нету
[13:32] <ivrok> все варианты гугла перебрал..в связи с этим в первые жизни подсоеденился к irc каналам))
[13:33] <flcl> nf_conntrack есть в той директории?
[13:34] <ivrok> нет
[13:34] <ivrok> ни того, ни другого
[13:34] <ivrok> могу скинуть что там есть и что есть в модулях
[13:34] <ivrok> впрочем я уже скидывал сюда, но народ не отрегаировал
[13:34] <flcl> я еще спросил в #ubuntu, один чел написал:
[13:35] <flcl> 15:34 < jpw> more likely /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack.ko but idc
[13:35] <flcl> *возможно там, но он не уверен
[13:35] <ivrok> гмм..и чего с ней делать?)
[13:36] <flcl> нашел?
[13:36] <ivrok> подключение модуля вроде делается как-то так modprobe nf(или ip)_conntrack
[13:37] <flcl> уффффф, я нуб пока что ) не подскажу
[13:38] <patdk-wk> hmm, looks like my screen got scrambles again :(
[13:39] <ivrok> ))
[13:39] <ivrok> спасибо, чувак)
[13:39] <flcl> what's scrables?
[13:44] <flcl> this channel is not as live as #ubuntu, is it? )
[13:45] <TheLordOfTime> uh, what?
[13:49] <flcl> I mean quiter )
[14:24] <LeD> hello, try installing Ubuntu Server 12.04 on a HP ProLiant server fails dl360p gen8 and 72% setting atp
[14:26] <maswan> LeD: oh, what is it that goes wrong?
[14:27] <LeD> the installation is stuck
[14:27] <LeD> frozen
[14:29] <maswan> if you switch to the other VT, can you tell what it hung on?
[14:32] <LeD> I'm not good in English speaking
[14:32] <LeD> je
[14:32] <LeD> what?
[14:35] <LeD> Server Overview
[14:35] <LeD> 4Gb x 4 , RAM
[14:35] <LeD> 1 Tb x 3 , discos duros
[14:35] <LeD> 2 Procesadores
[14:35] <LeD> Server Overview
[14:35] <LeD> 4Gb x 4, RAM
[14:35] <LeD> 1 Tb x 3 HDDs
[14:35] <LeD> 2 Processors
[14:57] <capitaninsaneoh> Evidently I've a /boot at 100% full.  Anyone know how to fix this?  http://pastebin.com/z9SypZN7
[14:58] <capitaninsaneoh> IS there any automatic way to clean up the extra kernels, etc in there?
[15:00] <jpds> capitaninsaneoh: No.
[15:01] <jpds> capitaninsaneoh: dpkg -l | grep linux-image and dpkg -r them.
[15:01] <capitaninsaneoh> jpds will this always happen?  Never run into this before
[15:01] <jpds> capitaninsaneoh: When you have to many old kernels installed, sure.
[15:01] <capitaninsaneoh> Shouldn't the update process account for this and clean up old kernels
[15:04] <jpds> capitaninsaneoh: No.
[15:04] <jpds> capitaninsaneoh: What if you need to go back to an older kernel because newer ones fail?
[15:04] <capitaninsaneoh> jpds I understand the reasons behind it but I wish I could limit it to 3 for example =)
[15:08] <capitaninsaneoh> Does the desktop do something different with this?
[15:09] <capitaninsaneoh> jpds, Thanks, I apt-get purged the old kernels
[15:09] <jpds> capitaninsaneoh: No.
[16:00] <tangomike> I thought it kept the last 3, but I could be wrong.  capitaninsaneoh: how many are in there? How big is your /boot?
[16:03] <jcastro> utlemming: ping
[16:12] <yolanda2> zul, jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/ceilometer/grizzly/+merge/146157
[16:41] <dragonious> Morning Guys!
[16:42] <dragonious> anyone on that can help me out Im trying to open a perl file so ican edit my squirrelmail config and I cant seam to get the file to open
[16:43] <dragonious> I have cookies if that helps :)
[16:43] <dragonious> like choco chip ....yummmmyy
[16:45] <alex88> hi guys
[16:46] <alex88> upstart doesn't log jobs output into /var/log/upstart?
[17:15] <kevinmthomas> I just came in to thank you all for your help!
[17:16] <kevinmthomas> over the last few days I have been able to set up my mail, printer server, etc
[17:16] <kevinmthomas> and i really appreciate all you guys have done.  your help lead me to get this all working properly
[17:16] <kevinmthomas> thank you again
[17:21] <bitfury> hello, got rid of the default mta (exim4) installed ssmtp but when I do 'telnet localhost 25' I get connection refused
[17:21] <kevinmthomas> bitfury - do you have port 25 open in your router
[17:22] <kevinmthomas> also telnet is port 21
[17:22] <bitfury> kevinmthomas: haven't checked that yet as I thought testing against 'localhost' will not go to the router
[17:22] <xiaoy> bitfury, if you behind a NAT/Router also make sure to disable port filtering
[17:22] <bitfury> i use telnet to test for open ports
[17:25] <xiaoy> bitfury, http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-ssmtp.html
[17:25] <xiaoy> make sure you have done those steps correctly
[17:30] <bitfury> http://pastebin.com/FWWs9k1M
[17:31] <bitfury> ^ mail.log
[17:31] <TheLordOfTime> uvirtbot: be silent.
[17:37] <sarnold> bitfury: I don't think ssmtp provides an SMTP listener, does it? I thought the whole point was to provide a /usr/sbin/sendmail executable that could be used by local programs to send mail out.
[17:45] <bitfury> sarnold: you're right
[17:46] <RoyK> why not postfix?
[17:46] <RoyK> !postfix
[17:47] <bitfury> so I guess sendmail is what I need to be troubleshooting
[17:47] <sarnold> postfix is a beast to configure compared to a simpler, /usr/sbin/sendmai-only mailer ...
[17:47] <sarnold> (granted, postfix is only about a thousand times easier than sendmail :)
[17:48] <RoyK> sarnold: heh - a beast to configure? apt-get install postfix and it's done
[17:48] <patdk-wk> ya, if you need extreemly simple outbound only
[17:48] <RoyK> bitfury: sendmail is the *real* beast configuration-wise
[17:50] <sarnold> RoyK: heh, never felt that easy to me...
[17:52] <patdk-wk> if you don't deal with it all the time I get it
[17:52] <patdk-wk> but as I'm an email admin, I touch postfix atleast every week, so I think it's simple
[17:52] <patdk-wk> everything being relative :)
[17:53] <RoyK> imho postfix is the easiest mta so far
[17:54] <qhartman> Postfix +1
[17:54] <qhartman> I've managed a bunch of different ones and it's my favorite
[17:56] <hallyn> stgraber: I think I've asked you thsi before.  But do you know of a way, either on bugs.launchpad.net, or (better) using python-launchpadlib, to get a list of bugs for package $p which are fix released in raring but nominated and not yet fix released in a supported stable release?
[18:03] <stgraber> hallyn: should be fairly easy to do with the API
[18:03] <stgraber> hallyn: essentially iterate all the bugs that are fix-released, look for the list of tasks and select any that doesn't have all of them fix-released too
[18:03] <hallyn> stgraber: ok, i gave it a shot a few days ago and couldn't find good search params - had ot just walk every bug known to lp.  Is that the norm?
[18:04] <hallyn> (sorry, back in a few mins)
[18:04] <stgraber> hallyn: in this case, yes, you'll have to iterate through all the fix-released bugs I think
[18:19] <stgraber> hallyn: I think the fastest way is to iter through the API equivalent of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/<series>/+source/lxc/+bugs and for each bug found there, check if it's fixed in either raring (if that task exists) or the current dev release (no task)
[18:24] <hallyn> stgraber: but you're suggesting i can look just over lxc fix-released bugs - didn't look like that to me
[18:25] <stgraber> hallyn: .searchTasks(status="Fix released") should give you that
[18:25] <stgraber> *Released (it's case sensitive)
[18:25] <hallyn> stgraber: is it the lxc project then?
[18:25]  * hallyn tries
[18:26] <stgraber> hallyn: lp.load("https://api.launcpad.net/1.0/ubuntu/+source/lxc").searchTasks(status="Fix Released")
[18:27] <hallyn> stgraber: ah, thanks.  that lp.load was what i didn't get.  i was trying lp.load_project("qemu-kvm") and that gave me obviously wrong results
[18:27] <stgraber> >>> len(lp.load("https://api.launchpad.net/1.0/ubuntu/+source/lxc").searchTasks(status="Fix Released"))
[18:27] <stgraber> 199
[18:28] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, that lp.load is the lazy way of doing lp.distributions['ubuntu'].getSourcePackage(name="lxc") :)
[18:28] <stgraber> (gives you the same object back)
[18:31] <hallyn> funky, 'load' doesn't exist here
[18:32] <yolanda2> adam_g, ping
[18:32] <hallyn> having to do get_source_package()
[18:39] <zul> hallyn: i think there is a regression with libvirt
[18:47] <hallyn> zul: passed all qa tests!  what is it doing?
[18:47] <zul> hallyn: gimme a sec and ill show you
[18:49] <zul> hallyn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1598170/
[18:50] <zul> hallyn:  i had to add the virterror back and include the virerror
[18:53] <hallyn> zul: but you've got it fixed?
[18:53] <zul> hallyn: yep
[18:53] <zul> patched locally here
[18:53] <hallyn> zul: cool
[18:53] <zul> i wanted to talk to you before i upload it
[18:54] <hallyn> stgraber: great, got a nice short script that should let me see everything that needs sru.  this lets me cull my local todolists some more
[18:54] <hallyn> zul: you wanted me to look at debdiff?
[18:54] <zul> hallyn: sure lemme finish what im doing here
[18:54] <hallyn> zul: np.  biam
[18:56] <adam_g> jamespage: if you're around.. was just rereading the #ubuntu-release discussion re openstack SRUs. the conclusion, AFAIUI, was to only add parseable bug references to changelogs if there is an existing ubuntu task?
[18:59] <wendar> I'm getting install failures in the OMAP4 daily images raring-server-armhf+omap4.img
[18:59] <wendar> expected? unexpected?
[18:59] <wendar> worth reporting?
[19:39] <hatake> !echo hy
[19:48] <iamsvkris> Hi all, i am interested in contributing to the python-vm-builder. could any one please point me some tutorials in understanding the code
[19:49] <patdk-wk> tutorials to understand the code?
[19:49] <iamsvkris> yes patdk-wk. tutorials to understand the code
[20:33] <hallyn> kirkland: hey, are you around?  would I be able to cajole you into sponsoring a small change to spice (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spice/+bug/1101978) ?
[20:33] <hallyn> wait.  that's the bug, not the change
[20:34] <hallyn> kirkland: https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/raring/spice/spice-compiler-warnings/+merge/146220   that
[20:34] <kirkland> hallyn: howdy
[20:35] <kirkland> hallyn: wow -- you don't have upload rights yet?
[20:35] <kirkland> hallyn: reading ubuntu-devel@, I thought we were just giving those away these days :-P  j/k
[20:37] <sarnold> hallyn: is that .pc/ file intentional?
[20:38] <kirkland> hallyn: yeah, I was just going to ask ... what's with .pc/?
[20:38] <hallyn> kirkland: lol
[20:38] <hallyn> sarnold: hm, lemme check
[20:38] <hallyn> usually those do get included,
[20:39] <hallyn> sarnold: kirkland: yeah, the .pc gunk gets kept in the bzr tree now, as patches are kept applied in the tree
[20:39] <sarnold> hallyn: eww :)
[20:40] <hallyn> which, frankly, makes debdiffs nicer ot review;  agreed on that
[20:40]  * sarnold watches abstractions leaking all over the floor
[20:40] <sarnold> at first I wondered, "is 700+ line diffs really hallyn's idea of "small change"? :D
[20:41] <hallyn> sarnold: you should see
[20:41] <kirkland> sarnold: you should hallyn's "big change"
[20:41] <hallyn> my big changes
[20:41] <kirkland> lol
[20:41] <hallyn> :)
[20:41] <sarnold> lol
[20:41] <hallyn> kirkland: so the cool part about this is, so long as my excuse for not being able to enable tests is accepted, we coudl end up with qemu with spice in main in raring
[20:42] <kirkland> hallyn: sure ... this will be a nice break from some RH stuff I'm currently working on
[20:42] <sarnold> hallyn: thanks for the explanation :)
[20:42] <hallyn> (which was why i picked you to look at this :)
[20:42] <kirkland> hallyn: :-) nice
[20:42] <hallyn> kirkland: :)  ecryptfs-systemd?
[20:43] <kirkland> hallyn: heh
[20:43] <kirkland> hallyn: nah, building an AMI of RHEL with zNcrypt enabled and talking to our keyserver, zTrustee
[20:44] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, merged and pushed to lp:ubuntu/spice ... do I still need to build and upload a source package, or did they ever get that happening automagically?
[20:45] <hallyn> kirkland: tragically, that is not yet automatic
[20:45] <hallyn> kirkland: thanks!
[21:30] <david_> How do I get wget to assume that the URL I give it is valid  and doesn't do a url encode on the url ?
[21:37] <david_> nevermind, I am using nc instead
[22:13] <hallyn> kirkland: say, have you pushed the spice to the archive yet?  (I'm wondering whether the code wants to actually ignore the seteuid failure)
[22:15] <kirkland> hallyn: I pushed to lp:ubuntu/spice, but I haven't uploaded a source package
[22:16] <kirkland> hallyn: I had a question for you above
 hallyn: okay, merged and pushed to lp:ubuntu/spice ... do I still need to build and upload a source package, or did they ever get that happening automagically?
[22:16] <hallyn> kirkland: oh i answered that above - it's not yet done automatically
[22:16] <kirkland> hallyn: ah, okay
[22:16] <hallyn> kirkland: then old on a sec,
[22:18] <hallyn> i dunno.  i'm not happy with this.  I guess they really just meant "oh hey, if we can seteuid(0), taht'd be great.  if not, well we just want it for fun"
[22:20] <hallyn> jdstrand: do you have 90 seconds?
[22:20] <kirkland> hallyn: okay, I'll hold off on upload
[22:20] <hallyn> kirkland: thanks, i'll just do an updated merge proposal if it needs a tweak
[22:20] <jdstrand> hallyn: I have a feeling it will take longer, but ok
[22:20] <kirkland> hallyn: ack
[22:21] <hallyn> jdstrand: well, spice took some backtrace code from xserver, which calls gstack (which i've never heard of before) but first calls seteuid(0), which you flagged.
[22:21] <jdstrand> yep
[22:21] <hallyn> jdstrand: i was going to error out if seteuid(0) fails, but it occurs to me taht'll never succeed in libvirt-qemu-spice
[22:22] <hallyn> so i think i'll just do (void)seteuid(0);  is that ok with you?
[22:22]  * jdstrand nods
[22:22] <hallyn> thanks.  i don't like it...
[22:22] <hallyn> have a good weekend :)
[22:22] <jdstrand> oh for the compiler error?
[22:22] <jdstrand> warning
[22:23] <jdstrand> my nods was for the statement prior to (void)
[22:23] <hallyn> jdstrand: d'oh
[22:23] <jdstrand> hallyn: ^
[22:23] <jdstrand> hallyn: I actually don't care about that call cause we don't have gstack even in the archive
[22:23] <hallyn> i noticed that :)
[22:24] <hallyn> ok i'm fine leaving it as is in the archive, but i figured upstream will presumably nix that
[22:24] <jdstrand> that apparmor profile should block it too
[22:24] <jdstrand> hallyn: I'm confused. what will upstream nix?
[22:25] <hallyn> jdstrand: i i think upstream will nix a patch to fail if seteuid(0) fails
[22:25] <jdstrand> ah, right
[22:25] <hallyn> i assume gstack will succeed on a task which you own
[22:25] <jdstrand> nah, don't bother
[22:25] <hallyn> don't bother which?
[22:25] <jdstrand> with fixing that warning
[22:25] <jdstrand> ie, leave that seteuid call alone
[22:26] <hallyn> jdstrand: oh, ok.
[22:26] <hallyn> jdstrand: the other warnings, which you didn't log, i assume you don't care bc they're in the client code which isn't going into main?
[22:26] <jdstrand> let me look at the bug
[22:27] <jdstrand> hmm, didn't mean to paste that seteuid(0)-- just meant to mention it
[22:27] <hallyn> ok
[22:27] <jdstrand> let me pull all the warnings, hold on
[22:28] <jdstrand> ok, I missed one:
[22:28] <jdstrand> basic_event_loop.c:118:5: warning: format '%ld' expects argument of type 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'int' [-Wformat]
[22:28] <jdstrand> I mipasted
[22:28] <jdstrand> mispasted
[22:29] <jdstrand> well, mis-highlighted. off-by-one :)
[22:29] <jdstrand> let me see where that one is
[22:29] <jdstrand> ./server/tests/basic_event_loop.c
[22:29] <jdstrand> ok, so who cares
[22:29] <jdstrand> (testsuite)
[22:29] <hallyn> right, we can't build them :(
[22:30] <jdstrand> ./spice-common/common/lz_compress_tmpl.c is in spice-common btw
[22:30] <hallyn> yeah i addressed that one
[22:30] <jdstrand> hallyn: oh, the testsuite is not buildable, bummer :\
[22:30] <jdstrand> ok, cool
[22:31] <hallyn> so that would be the only one i address, once i change the setuid call back
[22:31] <jdstrand> (I said 'who cares' cause not awesome coding in a test suite isn't really a concern)
[22:31] <jdstrand> hallyn: feel free to say in the bug that after talking with me on irc that the seteuid(0) call doesn't have to be fixed
[22:32] <hallyn> jdstrand: ok, thanks
[22:32] <hallyn> now to get a new tree for kirkland
[22:32] <jdstrand> np
[22:32] <jdstrand> hallyn: "snappy - Powerful media player with a minimalistic interface". I wonder if we could just enable the server tests?
[22:38] <hallyn> jdstrand: i assumed the server tests needed snappy to attach to the server, but i can try and hand-build and hand-run and see hwo far i get
[22:40] <jdstrand> hallyn: yeah, I have no idea. I saw media player and thought client and then, well, made a half-thought-out suggestion :)
[22:40] <hallyn> kirkland: re-submitted https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/raring/spice/spice-compiler-warnings/+merge/146239 .  could you take and push that?
[22:41] <jdstrand> once build depends aren't required for main, this will all go away. one day...
[22:41] <hallyn> jdstrand: I'll spend some time and either push what tests i get working or, if that's the empty set, i'll comment in the bug
[22:41] <jdstrand> hallyn: I appreciate it :)
[22:41] <jdstrand> k, heading out. have a nice weekend :)
[22:44] <hallyn> jdstrand: thanks - you too