[05:10] <wrapster> I just ran a version upgrade on one of my vm and was told to include this " -B disable-pcieb=true" in the grub..  would like to know how i should do it and what is this command?
[05:10] <jasmuz> brian, unless you are going minimalistic or are on a low end pc, its uncalled for to switch
[05:11] <jasmuz> intok, that seems bad... don't have a clue how to help there.. don't have one myself
[05:11] <brian> im on a netbook
[05:11] <brian> gnome runs pretty good but i heard xfce was a good option
[05:11] <Zaidy> can anyone help me please
[05:12] <jasmuz> brian, can i give you a slab of advice.. on a netbook, use the netbook enhanced desks
[05:12] <jasmuz> Zaidy, what is the issue?
[05:12] <jasmuz> Hello all, i have a borked apt-get system because of one lowsy package, that i installed manually from getdeb, any takers on how to solve the issue?? Private msg me pls
[05:12] <harisund> Zaidy are you trying to compile irssi? Why not just install it from the repositories?
[05:12] <Zaidy> jasmuz: i get this error "GLIB is required to build irssi"
[05:13] <Zaidy> jasmuz:  even after installing the package
[05:13] <brian> like netbook remix?
[05:13] <chibihogoshino> i installed gtk-chtheme and now when i change the themes with the gnome theme changer it is stuck with the old theme and the new one too
[05:13] <jasmuz> Zaidy, why are you trying to build irssi?
[05:13] <harisund> zaidy how did you install irssi?
[05:13] <chibihogoshino> if that makes any sense
[05:13] <jasmuz> chibihogoshino, change the root one too
[05:13] <Zaidy> jasmuz: to install it
[05:14] <jasmuz> !build-essentials Zaidy
[05:14] <chibihogoshino> root what ?
[05:14] <Zaidy> jasmuz: i already did it
[05:14] <jasmuz> Zaidy, get yourself the package build-essentials and check if you still got errors
[05:14] <chu_> This is fairly frustrating now, I don't even know what I have been done anymore.
[05:14] <Zaidy> jasmuz: i have installed all the dependencies but i still get the error
[05:14] <jasmuz> chibihogoshino, open the gnome theme as root and apply it too
[05:15] <jasmuz> Zaidy, why don't you use an already precompiled package then?
[05:15] <chibihogoshino> what is the command to open the theme manager
[05:15] <Zaidy> jasmuz: there isn't
[05:16] <jasmuz> Zaidy, are you telling me there isn't an irssi package in the repositories?
[05:16] <chu_> I download irssi like yesterday from the repos
[05:17] <Zaidy> jasmuz: the version in the rep is a bit old :D
[05:17] <jasmuz> Zaidy, ohh.. I see
[05:17] <jasmuz> Hello all, i have a borked apt-get system because of one lowsy package, that i installed manually from getdeb, any takers on how to solve the issue?? Private msg me pls
[05:18] <harisund> Hey guys how do I know if my graphics card is detected correctly or whatever, as in is my graphics being rendered by a software or hardware?
[05:18] <shane2peru> jasmuz: how is it messed up?
[05:19] <RussellAlan> Whats the cmd to partition a sdcard?
[05:19] <jasmuz> shane2peru, so messed up i cant install, delete or do anything.
[05:19] <nhasian> RussellAlan, you can use gparted
[05:19] <shane2peru> jasmuz: what did you install?
[05:19] <chibihogoshino> jasmuz, that didnt work
[05:19] <RussellAlan> yeah thats it
[05:19] <RussellAlan> thanks
[05:19] <jasmuz> shane2peru, and it won't allow me to remove the package that is broken
[05:19] <shane2peru> jasmuz: what package is it?
[05:19] <trt> Question: I've been messing with GRUB 2, and I'm having an issue.  Whenever I edit anything in /etc/default/grub file, and run 'sudo update-grub2' settings such as the gfx_mode and default boot item are not reflected in the boot menu, does anyone know what could be causing this?
[05:20] <jasmuz> shane2peru, urd a usenet reader from getdeb.net
[05:20] <chu_> If I have unmet build depewndencies, do I just apt-get those dependencies?
[05:20] <lstarnes> chu_: apt-get build-dep packagename
[05:20] <chu_> Where packagename is the package I'm trying to install?
[05:20] <jasmuz> shane2peru, any idea???
[05:20] <lstarnes> chu_: yes
[05:20] <mark[oz]> hey guys, using cli, can i block a certain ip address? should i use iptables, or is there a neater solution?
[05:20] <shane2peru> jasmuz: try this in the terminal: sudo dpkg --purge urd
[05:21] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it can be fixed, I just have to remember how
[05:21] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that dosen't even tickle it
[05:21] <shane2peru> jasmuz: what is the output?
[05:22] <chu_> Package sysutils has no install candidate
[05:22] <chu_> Bugger.
[05:22] <RussellAlan> damnit, whats my su pw
[05:22] <jasmuz> shane2peru, ackage is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[05:22] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: ubuntu doesn't have a root/su password set by default
[05:22] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: sudo is used instead
[05:22] <shane2peru> jasmuz: oh, I think it is: sudo apt-get -fix-broken install
[05:22] <nhasian> mark[oz], did you try ufw?
[05:23] <alabd> Good day every one ,How to find if modem support fax or not in ubuntu ?
[05:23] <mark[oz]> nhasian, i've googled, came up pretty blank, so i haven't tried anything.. will google ufw
[05:23] <mark[oz]> thanks
[05:23] <jasmuz> jasmuz, that cli command is not correct
[05:23] <trt> Question: I've been messing with GRUB 2, and I'm having an issue.  Whenever I edit anything in /etc/default/grub file, and run 'sudo update-grub2' settings such as the gfx_mode and default boot item are not reflected in the boot menu, does anyone know what could be causing this?
[05:23] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: so sudo then the program name? Can you give me an example string
[05:23] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: what are you trying to run?
[05:23] <chu_> Mmm, sysutils isn't available for Jaunty?
[05:23] <RussellAlan> gparted
[05:23] <shane2peru> jasmuz: let me find it, I can't remember
[05:24] <donnybrasco> hey - can someone help me figure out how to rotate my second screen in hardy with nvidia 6150
[05:24] <jasmuz> shane2peru, if you help me fix this you will seriously be included in my prayers tonight
[05:24] <ArkoldThos> any program as coax thief or dhcp force?
[05:24] <shane2peru> jasmuz: try this: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:24] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: gparted
[05:24] <harisund> donnybrasco, do you have Nvidia drivers? is there like a Nvidia panel?
[05:24] <donnybrasco> I don't see a setting to do this in nvidia-settings
[05:24] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that won't do anything either
[05:24] <shane2peru> jasmuz: how did you install the deb, just clicking on it?
[05:25] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: because that is a graphical application, it uses gksudo instead of sudo.  try gksudo gparted
[05:25] <harisund> donnybrasco, the only thing I can think of is to use xrandr .. are you familiar with the command line?
[05:25] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[05:25] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: ahh gracious senior
[05:25] <jasmuz> shane2peru, downloaded it from getdeb, just installed it via gdebi.. but i think i removed later mysql which it depends on, and it just flipped
[05:25] <prappl93> The Palm OS Devices thing keeps coming up when I log into Ubuntu, how do I fix this?
[05:26] <gullstein> I got two computers where I use suspend. booth work at suspend2 ram, but only one work at suspend2 disk. It apear to me that the same packages are used.
[05:26] <shane2peru> jasmuz: can you pastebin the out put of this: sudo apt-get remove urd
[05:26] <chu_> Does anyone know what packages will allow me to get sysutils on Jaunty?
[05:26] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it has been a while since I botched my apt-get stuff.
[05:26] <jasmuz> shane2peru, i don't know how to use pastebin
[05:26] <darksmac> quit
[05:26] <harisund> donnybrasco, what I did on my Tablet PC was to include a line --> Option "RandRRotation"  "true" <--- in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file under the "Display" section
[05:27] <jasmuz> shane2peru, it says: E: The package urd needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:27] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it is really simple www.pastebin.com  paste the output of the command on that web page, and hit submit and copy the address bar and past it here
[05:27] <huston> prappl93: my best guess is by going into system>preferences>Startup Applications
[05:27] <shane2peru> jasmuz: ok, do you still have the deb that you got?
[05:27] <jasmuz> Yes
[05:27] <prappl93> Huston, what would be in the list?
[05:27] <shane2peru> jasmuz: double click it to re-install it
[05:28] <shai> Does anyone know how I can enforce the larger DPI ( I set it to 120 instead of 96 ) on X apps I started over SSH X11 Forwarding ? The DPI set on my XDM works great, but those menus are just way to small on the apps I start via SSH ...
[05:28] <RussellAlan> Hrmm, it's not recognizing my media card in GParted.
[05:28] <tone_red> Hi All, I have an rdesktop type question: Can I rdesktop to a windows 2003 server with Ipsec policy using a Shared Key from a ubuntu system. Can it be done?
[05:28] <RussellAlan> I did it the other day but forgot what the trick was to get it to see it.
[05:29] <huston> anything that starts automatically with ubuntu "should" be listed there
[05:29] <prappl93> Its not
[05:29] <prappl93> Or if it is, I don't know the name of it
[05:29] <shane2peru> jasmuz: was it able to re-install it?
[05:29] <RussellAlan> "An error occurred while accessing 'Volume (vfat)', the system responded: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.InterfaceLocked: The enclosing drive for the volume is locked
[05:29] <joeb3_> tone_red, yes, with ipsec-tools on Ubuntu.
[05:29] <kprav33n> Anyone trying to upgrade to 9.10 beta from mirrors.kernel.org?
[05:30] <jasmuz> shane2peru, it inmediately screams that i have broken dependencies and won't allow me to do anything
[05:30] <alabd> Good day every one ,How to find if modem support fax or not in ubuntu ?
[05:30] <kprav33n> I am getting a hash mismatch for a couple of files.
[05:30] <PCTeacher012> Hey, I just installed Ubutnu 9.04, for the... 3rd time i think. Been a while. But my problem currently is i am trying to get an online radio to work: www.sosradio.net but every time it opens the radio, it says "starting", then "Streaming", then "Stopped" and i did nothing to stop it. What is wrong?
[05:30] <RussellAlan> "An error occurred while accessing 'Volume (vfat)', the system responded: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.InterfaceLocked: The enclosing drive for the volume is locked
[05:30] <shai> When I start X application in Gnome (My chosen XDM), the menus are just fine in relation to their font size. When I start those same applications later, on my Windows machine using SSH + X11 Forwarding, the menus fonts are very tiny and I can beraly make the words for them... I was hoping maybe there is a way to change that... can someon tell me how?
[05:30] <shane2peru> jasmuz: hmm, what was the output of sudo dpkg --purge urd
[05:30] <tone_red> joeb3_, thanks, I'll look into ipsec-tool
[05:31] <RussellAlan> Ahh, it was cause Gparted was trying to access it I suppose, I closed GPartred and i could access the volume.
[05:31] <jasmuz> shane2peru, gimme a sec
[05:31] <chu_> Why is it all of a sudden I have to recompile my own kernel?
[05:31] <PCTeacher012> Hey, I just installed Ubutnu 9.04, for the... 3rd time i think. Been a while. But my problem currently is i am trying to get an online radio to work: www.sosradio.net but every time it opens the radio, it says "starting", then "Streaming", then "Stopped" and i did nothing to stop it. What is wrong?
[05:31] <chu_> Jesus this is frustrating now.
[05:32] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just reinstalled the package via dpkg, then fixed the dependencies via apt-get install -f
[05:32] <agoole> PCTeacher012: let me try the radio, see if it works for me
[05:32] <huston> well you could just reinstall the palm os devices program couldn't you prapp193?
[05:32] <PCTeacher012> Thank agoole. The website it www.sosradio.net just click listen live
[05:32] <PCTeacher012> I've installed all the plugins it asked me to install
[05:32] <shane2peru> jasmuz: ok, where did you save the deb file?
[05:32] <shane2peru> jasmuz: Desktop?
[05:32] <jasmuz> shane2peru, yea
[05:33] <shane2peru> jasmuz: cd ~/Desktop
[05:33] <chu_> I shouldn't have tried to do this madwifi shit.
[05:33] <chu_> Bugger
[05:33] <darksmac> any one have any luck setting up a l4d server
[05:33] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just tried to remove the whole thing with sudo aptitude purge urd -y and it borked again
[05:33] <shane2peru> jasmuz: sudo dpkg -i urd(tab)
[05:33] <offwithx11> anyone know if editing the /etc/default-display-manager will stop X11 from starting in Ubuntu?
[05:33] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that is what i did!
[05:33] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it isn't going to let you do anything till it is installed,
[05:34] <shane2peru> jasmuz: did that help?
[05:34] <shane2peru> !language | chu
[05:34] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that installs it right.. but wont let me purge it
[05:34] <agoole> PCTeacher012: well, doesn't work for me either, looks like its a windows only stream,
[05:34] <shane2peru> jasmuz: so now it is installed?
[05:35] <shane2peru> jasmuz: I think we are going to have to remove it with dpkg too
[05:35] <PCTeacher012> agoole: So no way i could run it on linux?
[05:35] <jasmuz> shane2peru, gimme the low down then
[05:35] <shane2peru> jasmuz: sudo dpkg --purge urd
[05:35] <agoole> PCTeacher012: well, let me take a look at the code for the website
[05:35] <PCTeacher012> agoole: Thanks. keep me updated
[05:35] <offwithx11> PCTeacher012: did you try winehq.org (wine package)
[05:35] <PCTeacher012> offwithx11: No, but this isnt for a program
[05:35] <shane2peru> jasmuz: sounds like a poorly formed package
[05:36] <jasmuz> shane2peru, it borked..
[05:36] <shane2peru> jasmuz: can you post the output in pastebin
[05:36] <shane2peru> !pastebin | jasmuz
[05:36] <donnybrasco> harisund: I can't find xrandr and don't seem to have it installed
[05:36] <donnybrasco> can't find it in adept
[05:37] <donnybrasco> only grandr
[05:37] <chu_> "FATALFATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[05:37] <offwithx11> anyone know about editing the /etc/default-display-manager file; will that stop X11 from starting in Ubuntu?
[05:37] <chu_> What does that error mean?
[05:37] <shane2peru> jasmuz: or you can try: sudo dpkg --remove urd
[05:37] <offwithx11> harisund: try 'apt-cache search xrand' in terminal
[05:37] <jasmuz> shane2peru, http://paste.ubuntu.com/283499/
[05:37] <lstarnes> chu_: it means that you don't have the module for ndiswrapper
[05:38] <harisund> donnybrasco, that's odd
[05:38] <harisund> donnybrasco, I just did dpkg -S `which xrandr` and it tells me xrandr is a part of the package "x11-xserver-utils
[05:38] <jasmuz> shane2peru, that won't work either
[05:38] <harisund> Do you have x11-xserver-utils package installed on your system? (or you could try installing that)
[05:38] <shane2peru> jasmuz: wow, that is one sticky package
[05:38] <lstarnes> chu_: it should be available in one of the packages related to ndiswrapper
[05:39] <harisund> offwithx11, what are you trying to do? You want to stop X11 from loading?
[05:39] <jasmuz> shane2peru, yes.. im almost going crazy over it
[05:39] <chu_> Yeah, if I have ndiswrapper installed, wouldn't I have ndiswrapper module installed?
[05:39] <donnybrasco> harisund: I'm going to just try editing my xorg.conf first
[05:39] <offwithx11> harisund: yes, by default without uninstallation
[05:39] <nanotube> jasmuz: what is the error message that you're getting when you try to apt-get remove it?
[05:40] <harisund> donnybrasco, what are you editing in your xorg.conf?
[05:40] <harisund> and offwithx11 you can stop GDM from running on boot time
[05:40] <chu_> Mmm, there is an apt-get ndiswrapper-modules file I might not have
[05:40] <shane2peru> jasmuz: ok, lets do this: sudo echo "conf" > /etc/apache2/conf.d/urd.conf
[05:40] <seede> hi all, can i get a hand with a weird one - rdiff-backup seems to have borked its backup directory. in short i can't see files there anymore. eg ls -ld gives drwx------ 91 me me 4096 2009-10-02 12:03 .  i can cd to directories that i know are there but i can't display them
[05:40] <shane2peru> jasmuz: that will create the missing conf file and then we can try to purge it again
[05:40] <donnybrasco> harisund: I was going to try adding a rotation line under monitor
[05:41] <offwithx11> harisund: will commenting that file /etc/X11/default-display-manager clear the X11 from starting by default?
[05:41] <seede> ive tried chmod -R 755, nothing
[05:41] <PCTeacher012> Well, im updating ubuntu, and going to bed, high school is in the morning :p so night all
[05:41] <shane2peru> jasmuz: it appears it is not being removed because of the missing file.
[05:41] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just created the file.. im about to purge it again
[05:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: I have two monitors running
[05:41] <harisund> donnybrasco, hmm all right try and see if that works, I know xrandr is the way to rotate screens so if your editing doens't we will try something else
[05:41] <harisund> donnybrasco, ouch now it gets more interesting
[05:41] <Misko> Hey, I'm new to Java programming I was wondering if any of you guys could answer me a quick question
[05:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: yeah- and I only want one of them rotated :)
[05:41] <harisund> offwithx11, I do not know, you can try though .. what's the worst that could happen
[05:42] <offwithx11> harisund: not much, ok, thanks
[05:42] <PCTeacher012> Misko, i can try, but im not too well at java programming
[05:42] <offwithx11> Misko, you can also try #java
[05:42] <jasmuz> shane2peru, Yay!! that seems worked!!!
[05:42] <harisund> donnybrasco, yeah .. have you just tried using gnome-display-properties? normally that would tell you if it has ended up identifying everything
[05:43] <Misko> I cant get into #java
[05:43] <Misko> Anyways
[05:43] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help me with GParted? I can't view my media card.
[05:43] <shane2peru> jasmuz: great, run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <lstarnes> Misko: you need a registered/verified nick in order to join there
[05:43] <donnybrasco> I'm on kde
[05:43] <jasmuz> shane2peru, just did.. im already fecthing updates.
[05:43] <shane2peru> jasmuz: if that works, then everything should be fixed
[05:43] <harisund> hmm what's the KDE equivalent one sec
[05:43] <prappl93> How do I stop something from running when I start up Ubuntu
[05:43] <jasmuz> shane2peru, thanks man, for the hand.
[05:43] <Jd`away> Hi, is there a counterpart for FARmanager on linux?..any software to access the filesystem of a Se mobile phone?
[05:44] <shane2peru> jasmuz: no prob, glad we got rid of that weed!
[05:44] <computerquip> Morning.
[05:44] <lstarnes> prappl93: sudo update-rc.d -f servicename remove
[05:44] <jasmuz> Jd`away, if you have bluetooth on the phone, you can mount it
[05:44] <harisund> prappl93, what are you talking about in particular?
[05:44] <prappl93> lstarnes: I don't know the "service name" its the Palm OS Devices thing... it keeps popping up
[05:44] <chu_> Apparantly there's an update-modules command, but I don't know the syntax, anyone here have any experience?
[05:44] <jasmuz> shane2peru, :D
[05:44] <Jd`away> no, that would just give me access to the phone memory contents.. i want to flash the filesystem..
[05:44] <computerquip> Wondering if I could get a quick tip. My update mirror is SLOW and as a result I want to change it. Any clue how?
[05:44] <prappl93> harisund, the Palm OS Devices thing pops up on system start up
[05:45] <fez> why is KDE on ubuntu so "k"rappy
[05:45] <donnybrasco> harisund: thanks, restarting my xserver - brb
[05:45] <jasmuz> Jd`away, then don't bet on flashing it on a gnu/linux platform
[05:45] <abbyz> this is really _really_ bugging me. i have installed mozplugger and using evince to open pdf documents within firefox. but when i open a pdf, evince opens up and says "permission denied" when trying to open the pdf.
[05:45] <te> computerquip: open up syanptic sources, change your server from united states to Other
[05:45] <celthunder> fez so don't use kde then
[05:45] <te> computerquip: then click the button to search for the fastest server
[05:45] <computerquip> kk
[05:45] <te> let that run
[05:45] <Jd`away> hm..
[05:45] <te> and then click okay
[05:45] <te> i had the same problem today
[05:45] <te> so fucking slow
[05:45] <FloodBot1> te: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help with Gparted? It isn't recognizing my media card.
[05:45] <computerquip> ... Is the default Japan?
[05:45] <PCTeacher012> night all, goin to bed lolz High school in the morning :P
[05:45] <RussellAlan> Or what is a fast formatting solution?
[05:46] <harisund> prappl93, I think it's called pilot something
[05:46] <te> !language | te
[05:46] <offwithx11> te: you can try a torrent program, such as apt-p2p or debtorrent
[05:46] <Jd`away> is there a channel for midnight commander on here?
[05:46] <harisund> prappl93, do one thing, in a terminal do ls /etc/init.d/ | grep *pilot* ?
[05:46] <te> offwithx11: why would i do that?
[05:46] <offwithx11> te: if the mirrors are going too slow, you can torrent the updates (faster sometimes)
[05:46] <te> yeah that's a good idea i guess
[05:46] <prappl93> harisund, what does ? mean?
[05:46] <te> but just changing to a faster server got me back to 6MB down
[05:46] <te> :)
[05:47] <harisund> prappl93, are you familiar with using the command line?
[05:47] <prappl93> Somewhat, but I am newish with Ubuntu still
[05:48] <ByTeWalkeR> hi all. i have nvidia geforce 9100 but i cant get it worknig.. envy says everything is not compatible :(
[05:48] <prappl93> harisund, somewhat, but I am still newish with Ubuntu
[05:48] <harisund> prappl93, see the "Palm OS device support thingy" that pops up is called gnome-pilot or something, and I think the service is gpilotd
[05:48] <RussellAlan> lstarnes: will you help me?
[05:48] <harisund> prappl93,which Ubuntu are you using? 9.04?
[05:48] <stargate> I was setting up my new install of ubuntu 9.04 and decided after setting everything up that I wanted to change my username and computer name.  I was going to refer to post 8 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64021 for the username part unless there is a better suggestion, and I am still looking for how to change the computer name.  Thanks in advance.
[05:48] <lstarnes> RussellAlan: I don't know how to resolve that issue. sorry
[05:48] <prappl93> harisund, yes. Its gpilotd
[05:49] <prappl93> harisund, what was the command to stop it from loading at start up again?
[05:49] <harisund> prappl93, so basically you need to stop the gpilotd service from running
[05:49] <harisund> prappl93, somebody put it up earlier, let me scroll back hang on
[05:49] <harisund> lstarnes put it up .. sudo update-rc.d gpilotd -f remove
[05:50] <harisund> prappl93, what you could do is install some application like "bum" and use it to stop gpilotd and other services from loading at startup time
[05:50] <prappl93> harisund, I did that and got this: "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gpilotd: file does not exist"
[05:51] <harisund> prappl93, how did you find out it was gpilotd/
[05:51] <harisund> I mean, it could be under a different name
[05:51] <prappl93> I typed gpilotd into terminal and it ran the thing, I don't know, but thats the App name
[05:51] <harisund> prappl93, ok are you familiar with the terminal? Can you type a command out
[05:51] <prappl93> Probably
[05:53] <harisund> prappl93, by the way, do you want that software? I guess you could just uninstall the software if you don't use Palm Pilot PDA devicxes
[05:53] <ClayG> What is the easiest way to fix grub? I installed xp and couldn't get to ubuntu after, I tried supergrub which allowed me to get into ubuntu but then it doesn't let me select os's and now I can't get into xp, what is the easiest way be able to see the screen whre you pick os's ?
[05:53] <prappl93> harisund, sort of but not really... could I do a sudo apt-get remove gpilotd and then a sudo apt-get install gpilotd and that should fix it?
[05:53] <harisund> The name of the software by the way is gnome-pilot
[05:54] <harisund> So you could do sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-pilot if you want to be totally rid of it
[05:54] <harisund> I don't think it installs any service, since I don't see anything in /etc/init.d that could be related to this. Does this start when you login to the desktop?
[05:54] <chu_> I should apparantly have a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/ndiswrapper.ko but /lib/modules/`uname -r` only has 3 directories, initrd, kernel and updates.
[05:54] <ClayG> I thought there is a built in boot loader editor gui?
[05:54] <chu_> Am I looking in the wrong place?
[05:55] <prappl93> Yes. I just uninstalled it then reinstalling it right now... I will see if it fixed it by logging out then back in
[05:55] <prappl93> harisund, brb
[05:56] <prappl93> harisund, what was the command to purge it again?
[05:56] <harisund> prappl93, sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-pilot
[05:56] <stargate> clayg, I actually had that issue earlier,  I ended up giving up and just wiped my ubuntu install, grub2 has builtin grub rescue features though.
[05:56] <Gamex> help me pls
[05:56] <agliodbs> ubutu doesn't automount USB drives?
[05:57] <prappl93> harisund, so if I were to reinstall those it would be similar to on Windows uninstalling it entirely then reinstalling it new?
[05:57] <ByTeWalkeR> i have nvidia geforce 9100.. why cant envy find the right driver?
[05:57] <Gamex> i cant use webcam on kopete
[05:57] <harisund> Technically yeah
[05:57] <harisund> you could then do sudo apt-get install gnome-pilot
[05:57] <ClayG> stargate: can i just install grub2?
[05:57] <Gamex> pls pm me
[05:57] <prappl93> So that *should* fix the problem?
[05:57] <chu_> Ok, so I don't have a misc dir in /lib/modules/2.6.30/ where would I find the equivalent then?
[05:57] <harisund> prappl93, only difference being unlike windows you can do it in 2 commands instead of a bunch of "next" "next" "next" clicks
[05:58] <computerquip> The software sources screen seems to be frozen. Is it processing something?
[05:58] <wrektjet> hey guys. my system just froze. how should i restart x next time?
[05:58] <prappl93> harisund, let me log out again and back in and see if the purge then reinstall works.
[05:58] <harisund> prappl93, let me knwo if it did
[05:58] <ClayG> stargate: it's too bad, it would be kind of handy to have a program that goes "We found these os's on your OS, select the ones you'd like to choose from when your computer starts" and you do, and then it's fixed.
[05:58] <agliodbs> really, I just plugged in a usb drive to my ubuntu machine
[05:58] <stargate> clayg, not sure.  you can also attempt to reinstall grub via ubuntu live cd,  i personally had no luck with that
[05:58] <harisund> prappl93, if not there are some other stuff we can try
[05:58] <agliodbs> and I need to manually mount it?
[05:59] <stargate> hehe, well there are plenty, it's just whether they work, especially from windows, clayg
[05:59] <ClayG> stargate: I'm in ubuntu now.
[05:59] <ClayG> stargate: I just need something that will let me get back into windows
[05:59] <prappl93> harisund, no luck... is there a possibility this is set up to launch on the root account so all subsequent accounts will launch it?
[06:00] <harisund> prappl93, ok what exactly is happening when you login?
[06:00] <harisund> prappl93, are you getting an error message, or is a software application starting up or ..?
[06:00] <ClayG> stargate: I could have sworn in past distro version I was able to edit grub in a gui from ubuntu but I can't find it now.
[06:00] <stargate> clayg, oh i'msorry, i thought you meant you could only access windows and not ubuntu, not the other way around
[06:00] <chu_> Sweet new error now, this is progress!
[06:00] <prappl93> harisund, the computer loads the fact that I have the black cursor selected then the gnome-pilot shows up.
[06:00] <ClayG> stargate: at first yes, but I got supergrub which now makes it only go into ubuntu lol
[06:00] <donnybrasco> harisund: that didn't work
[06:00] <agliodbs> hmmm, I see the issue
[06:00] <ClayG> stargate:  do you know of a way inside ubuntu to fix it gui style?
[06:01] <agliodbs> how do I format a USBdrive in ubuntu?
[06:01] <harisund> donnybrasco, one second let me get back to you
[06:01] <donnybrasco> harisund: do you think running my second monitor as a separate xserver would help
[06:01] <stargate> clayg, i don't gui-wise, but i remember reading online how to re-add windows via terminal if that happens
[06:01] <kuttans> agliodbs use gparted to do that
[06:01] <stargate> clayg, give me a second to look it up
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Same as any other drive, with your partitioning/formatting tool of choice.  I like gparted for graphical jobs.
[06:01] <harisund> donnybrasco, here's a link to get you started, i will get back to you in a second http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056225
[06:01] <donnybrasco> harisund: thanks
[06:02] <agliodbs> tonyyarusso: and for non-graphical?
[06:02] <harisund> now prappl93
[06:02] <harisund> prappl93, let's do one thing .. are you running gnome?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: cfdisk
[06:02] <wrektjet> guys, what can one do if ubuntu freezes? is therera  way not to lose your work?
[06:02] <prappl93> harisund, yes
[06:02] <ninjaII> hello :)
[06:03] <agliodbs> ooooh
[06:03] <ninjaII> so quiet in here
[06:03] <agliodbs> cfdisk didn't like that drive
[06:03] <ninjaII> this isn't normal :P
[06:03] <harisund> prappl93, ok in System -> Preferences -> Startup applicatino
[06:03] <harisund> prappl93, do you see anything pilot related?
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: uh oh, what happened?
[06:03] <agliodbs> n
[06:03] <prappl93> harisund, not at all
[06:03] <agliodbs> Warning!!  Unsupported GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU Parted.
[06:04] <stargate> clayg, my system is all wonky atm, but i recall seeing an article on google when searching "reinstall grub after windows"
[06:04] <stargate> clayg, I'll be back as soon as i reboot.
[06:04] <harisund> prappl93, ok what about output of stuff like "pstree" or "top" or "ps ax" do you see anything listed pilot related?
[06:04] <ClayG> stargate: I'll check it out, thanks
[06:04] <harisund> prappl93, basically I am trying to find out what application is running, then we can figure out a way to stop it
[06:04] <agliodbs> gparted is a GUI tool, though, yes?
[06:05] <prappl93> harisund, none of those appear
[06:05] <harisund> donnybrasco, any luck? Are you able to configure each monitor to its correct resolution? Is your ubuntu able to identify the 2 monitors? How do you know that?
[06:05] <RussellAlan> yes agliodbs
[06:05] <agliodbs> :-(
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Intriguing.  Well, there's gparted and there's parted - parted is GNU parted, and gparted is the GNOME frontend - confusing I know.
[06:06] <chu_> Gah!
[06:06] <chu_> Horrible.
[06:06] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes - the res is fine ... used kdesudo nvidia-settings to edit xorg.conf file - my problem lies with having my second monitor rotated
[06:06] <prappl93> harisund, so, should I just restart my computer and use one of the things in the GRUB menu to redo my system? I forgot what its called...
[06:07] <harisund> donnybrasco, you said when you typed "xrandr" in a terminal it said noo such command found?
[06:07] <donnybrasco> yes
[06:07] <harisund> prappl93, I am not sure I understand what you are talking about .. there's something you can do in Grub menu that redoes your system? oO
[06:07] <prappl93> harisund, from what I read them as, yeah... but I am probably sadly mistaken
[06:07] <harisund> donnybrasco, let's try installing x11-xserver-utils package
[06:08] <eminor> recovery mode?
[06:08] <chu_> ndiswrapper's web-site is incredibly difficult to navigate, is there an installation tutorial there? (the INSTALL text in this ndiswrapper tarball just says go to the web-site for build instructions, but then the site just re-directs me to the homepage and I can't find anything from there)
[06:08] <donnybrasco> harisund: when I ran grandr, though, the rotation options were disabled
[06:09] <harisund> donnybrasco, that's probably because the rotation was disabled .. you need to enable rotation in xorg.conf
[06:09] <agliodbs> tonyyarusso: there isn't anything more user-friendly than parted?
[06:09] <prappl93> harisund, I think I am just going to leave it uninstalled...
[06:09] <harisund> donnybrasco, you need to add the line ---> Option "RandRRotation" "true"<-- to the Display section in your xorg.conf
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Well, you could probably use the other tool anyway, but I'm not sure what that error means, so doing what it says is probably safest.
[06:10] <harisund> prappl93, I just searched for all packages that have pilot as a part of them, and there seem to be 3 packages gnome-pilot, gnome-pilot-conduits and libgone-pilot2 .. maybe you could try purging all 3 of them first
[06:10] <harisund> prappl93, actually that seems like a bad idea .. are you running evolution?
[06:11] <agliodbs> tonyyarusso: yeah, I'm just looking for a shortcut for "use the whole disk"
[06:11] <prappl93> Not right now
[06:11] <agliodbs> which parted doesn't appear to have
[06:11] <prappl93> It said it couldn't find libgone-pilot2
[06:11] <harisund> donnybrasco, did you get what I was talking about, the line in xorg.conf? That line must be there for rotation
[06:11] <harisund> prappl93, libgome-pilot2 .. it seems to have some dependencies with evolution
[06:12] <prappl93> Oh
[06:12] <prappl93> So, if I remove that then reinstall it it should be okay though right?
[06:12] <prappl93> Or would I have to redo my Evolution all together?
[06:13] <nonix4> Why would mouse plugged through an usb hub (monitor) refuse to work after being unplugged for a day along with the keyboard plugged to the same hub? Xorg.0.log does list proper-looking detection when plugging it in. Works if plugged in through any other usb port.
[06:13] <ultralazer> Just installed ubuntu.  Wonders if there is a way to force xorg-server to rely upon manually configured xorg.con
[06:13] <donnybrasco> harisund: I was just checking on the X11-xserver-utils ... it's already installed
[06:13] <ultralazer> ^ xorg.conf
[06:13] <harisund> x11-xserver-utils is already installed then xrandr should be installed since xrandr is a part of that package donnybrasco ... .. your /usr/bin doesn't have a xrandr in it?
[06:14] <harisund> prappl93, when you remove the packages it will give you a list of what else it is removing
[06:14] <harisund> prappl93, make a list of all that and reinstalll everything that was removed
[06:14] <agliodbs> like, particularly, how do I guess the number for END for mkpartfs?
[06:14] <prappl93> harisund, that will remove all of evolution... so, okay
[06:15] <seidos> when should someone use canonical's paid support?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> agliodbs: Usually there's something that tells you the total number somewhere...
[06:15] <harisund> I think it removes the packages evolution, evolution-plugins, evolution-exchange, evolution-indicator so you should be able to add those back and be on the safe side
[06:15] <agliodbs> I can't find anything
[06:15] <chu_> Argh!! trying to make this ndiswrapper package, "*** CFLAGS was changed in <filename>"
[06:15] <chu_> Argh
[06:15] <agliodbs> I know this is about a 500G drive
[06:15] <chu_> What's this error telling me?
[06:15] <agliodbs> but how do I figure out the exact size?
[06:16] <lizzzy> Hi! So, I'm manually configuring my IP. How do I know what's my prefix??
[06:16] <harisund> donnybrasco, could you find xrandr in your /usr/bin?
[06:16] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes xrandr is in /usr/bin
[06:16]  * cybic is still looking for a hint, where to configurate my trackpoint on hp nc6400
[06:16] <agliodbs> lizzzy: prefix?
[06:17] <harisund> donnybrasco, ok that's a start .. now rotation is done through xrandr, that much I know. Have you enabled that line in xorg.conf Option "RandRRotation" "true"
[06:17] <lizzzy> Yeah, in manual config. it asks for my address, then prefix and then gateway. Is the prefix <IP_ADDRESS> by any chance? But it doesn't seem to accept that.
[06:17] <vadviktor> Anybody who feels he is good at virtualization, help me to choose: xen or kvm? I only want it to use as a portable server workspace for my web development enviroment.
[06:17] <Brando753> is there a way to set up vnc to allow me to turn on and/or login to my computer?
[06:18] <chu_> Mmm
[06:18] <Debolaz> vadviktor: KVM.
[06:18] <nanotube> lizzzy: the proper name for that is "netmask"... and it depends on the IP you're setting...
[06:18] <donnybrasco> harisund: I don't have a 'Display' section - only two 'Montitor' sections
[06:18] <agliodbs> lizzzy: what are you editing?
[06:18] <Debolaz> vadviktor: If have the hardware support, there's no reason to not prefer KVM over Xen.
[06:18] <nanotube> lizzzy: but for a regular "local network" it does tend to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:18] <harisund> Not 'display' sorry I think it should be "device"
[06:19] <prappl93> harisund, I will see if purging all that then reinstalling worked
[06:19] <agliodbs> anyone?  surely there must be some way to check the capacity of a raw device
[06:19] <harisund> prappl93, allright we can try that for a start
[06:19] <chu_>  *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/chu/Downloads/AR928X/ndiswrapper-1.2/driver/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Stop.
[06:19] <chu_> Whoops, anyway, what does that error say?
[06:19] <lizzzy> Wireless --> edit network connections --> IP address --> Method: Manual
[06:19] <vadviktor> Debolaz: I actually do not have AMD-V on every machine I wish to use it on, and I would like to choose a free virtualization where I can run a 64bit ubuntu guest with 2 or more cores
[06:20] <donnybrasco> harisund: here's my xorg.conf file ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/283515/
[06:20] <nanotube> agliodbs: run "sudo fdisk -l" among its output you'll find the total capacity of the physical disk
[06:20] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec
[06:20] <prappl93> No such luch, HardDisk
[06:20] <prappl93> harisund,
[06:20] <Debolaz> vadviktor: Lack of hardware support excludes KVM as an alternative.
[06:20] <lizzzy> Here, I'm trying to manually set my IP. I know what's a netmask. But it didn't ask for my netmask, rather a prefix!
[06:20] <prappl93> I have to go to bed, I have school tomorrow, so if you have a link or series of links to possible solutions, I wouldn't mind you to send me them
[06:20] <prappl93> Or you could e-mail them to me
[06:21] <vadviktor> Debolaz: :( and is Xen as good as KVM if it comes to easy install and maintenance?
[06:21] <Debolaz> vadviktor: No, Xen is considerably more complex.
[06:21] <harisund> prappl93, all right good luck and sorry man
[06:21] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec
[06:21] <Debolaz> vadviktor: However, it is well documented.
[06:21] <nanotube> lizzzy: this is in the networkmanager applet?
[06:21] <lizzzy> yup
[06:22] <vadviktor> Debolaz: should I install it from ubuntu repo or shall I choose to compile it from source as it is more up-to-date?
[06:22] <lizzzy> network mgmt --> wireless --> edit netwk connections
[06:22] <zruty> draft
[06:23] <harisund> donnybrasco, do you see the line Option "NoLogo" "True"
[06:23] <Debolaz> vadviktor: Ubuntu dropped host (Technically dom0) support for Xen in releases after hardy, fyi.
[06:23] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[06:23] <harisund> Right underneath that add a line that says --> Option "RandRRotation" "True"
[06:23] <harisund> The same way as the previous line is
[06:23] <donnybrasco> harisund: ok
[06:24] <murlidhar> okiez hi all ......... i messed up something and i don't see firefox in update-alternatives .... how do i bring it back to get firefox opened for the command x-www-browser ?
[06:24] <Debolaz> vadviktor: If end up going with Xen, you want this book btw: http://runningxen.com/
[06:24] <harisund> So you have an identifier line, you have a driver line, and you have 2 Option lines .. get what I am saying?
[06:24] <nanotube> lizzzy: aha, in that case... read this: http://www.gadgetwiz.com/network/netmask.html
[06:24] <donnybrasco> yep
[06:25] <maurer_> Anyone know of any D&D character sheet software that works in linux?
[06:25] <vadviktor> Debolaz: then I guess it's up to me to compile it
[06:25] <donnybrasco> harisund: saved it - gonna try restarting xserver - brb
[06:25] <maurer_> Under windows I've used "HeroForge", but their code isn't OO.o compatible
[06:25] <harisund> http://paste.ubuntu.com/283519/
[06:25] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec
[06:25] <donnybrasco> k
[06:25] <harisund> You need to add that to both lines
[06:25] <lizzzy> Thanks muchly nanotube :)
[06:25] <nanotube> lizzzy: for the standard class-c <IP_ADDRESS>, try prefix 24
[06:25] <harisund> donnybrasco, look at the one I put
[06:25] <agliodbs> seems to work, thanks
[06:25] <nanotube> lizzzy: no prob :)
[06:25] <lizzzy> Kewl!
[06:25] <vadviktor> Debolaz: thank you for your kind information!
[06:25] <agliodbs> feh
[06:25] <nanotube> agliodbs: ?
[06:26] <Debolaz> vadviktor: Np.
[06:26] <agliodbs> since when did 477MB == 500GB?
[06:26] <nanotube> agliodbs: probably its 477GB == 500GiB :)
[06:26] <agliodbs> yeah
[06:26] <nonix4> chu_: it says you're trying to do something that could be done simpler, I guess...
[06:26] <agliodbs> cheaters
[06:27] <nanotube> agliodbs: and it's since hard drive manufacturers decided that they'll count 1000 bytes per megabyte instead of 1024.
[06:27] <nanotube> agliodbs: the martetroid who came up with that one ought to be stuffed.
[06:27] <mysteriousdarren> y is that?
[06:27] <nanotube> agliodbs: *marketroid
[06:27]  * DigitalKiwi thinks it is ingenious
[06:27] <agliodbs> anyway, when I get this thing formatted ext2, will it automount?
[06:27] <donnybrasco> harisund: how's this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/283520/
[06:28] <nanotube> agliodbs: ehrm... if you stick it into your fstab, it will :)
[06:28] <agliodbs> ah
[06:28] <DigitalKiwi> why are you making a 500GB drive ext2?
[06:28] <agliodbs> hmmmph
[06:28] <agliodbs> DigitalKiwi: parted doesn't support ext3?
[06:28] <harisund> donnybrasco, if I am not mistaken the t in True should be capitalized, since it is capitalized in the line above
[06:28] <DigitalKiwi> wut
[06:28] <harisund> and donnybrasco you might also need to add it in the second device section, under BoardName  "GeForce Go 6150"
[06:29] <DigitalKiwi> i hope you don't intend to keep it ext2
[06:29] <MadSeaDog> hi folks i'm looking for a good sound editer... something that can easily remove voice...
[06:29] <eminor> agliodbs, ext3 is ext2 with journal, look for a -j option or something :-)
[06:29] <DigitalKiwi> hi bruenig
[06:29] <MadSeaDog> any ideas?
[06:29] <donnybrasco> harisund: ok - will do
[06:29] <bruenig> greet
[06:29] <Flannel> murlidhar: You can use --set
[06:29] <nanotube> agliodbs: see here: http://www.gadgetwiz.com/network/netmask.html
[06:29] <Nitrodist> how do I get back to regular user after going to root from a shell
[06:29] <nanotube> agliodbs: wrong link
[06:29] <nanotube> agliodbs: i mean here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-parted-create-part.html
[06:29] <harisund> Nitrodist, type exit
[06:29] <agliodbs> feh, time for bed
[06:30] <nanotube> agliodbs: in other words... use mkpart to make ext3 partitions
[06:30] <nanotube> agliodbs: same here... dunno wtf i'm still doing here
[06:30] <murlidhar> Flannel: err u mean sudo update-alternatives --set /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 ?
[06:30] <Nitrodist> thx harisund
[06:30] <agliodbs> nanotube: thanks, man pages are out of date
[06:30] <murlidhar> Flannel: :)
[06:30] <agliodbs> nanotube: anyway, bed and will restart this in the am
[06:30] <Flannel> murlidhar: --set x-www-browser /path/to/whaever
[06:31] <donnybrasco> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283523/
[06:31] <nanotube> agliodbs: sweet dreams
[06:31] <murlidhar> Flannel: ah okies thanks :)
[06:31] <donnybrasco> harisund: how's that look?
[06:31] <harisund> donnybrasco, yeah seems better. Try restart X all together and see if grandr allows anything?
[06:32] <dragon1> What'd be a good bluetooth remote software to operate media player on linux using a symbian device?
[06:32] <donnybrasco> ok - brb
[06:32] <murlidhar> Flannel: update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/bin/firefox'.
[06:33] <agliodbs> nanotube: No Implementation: Support for creating ext3 file systems is not implemented yet.
[06:33] <xoveruk> does anyone know of a public ssh server that i can tunnel my HTTP requests through? facebook is blocked on this router.
[06:33] <murlidhar> Flannel: the path is absolutely correct
[06:34] <Flannel> murlidhar: Oh, sorry, it's --install, and there's some other stuff you set (it's self explanatory, check the man page)
[06:34] <chu_> There s nothing more tedious than Wireless in Linux; is there?
[06:34] <nanotube> agliodbs: hrm....
[06:34] <DigitalKiwi> "my school/work wants me to be productive (shame on them) please help me bypass this"
[06:34] <nanotube> xoveruk: try shellium.org, maybe...
[06:34] <murlidhar> Flannel: i tried that too
[06:34] <nanotube> agliodbs: well, if you're not tied to the cli, i know that gparted can easily to ext3
[06:34] <harisund> chu_ yeah Wireless in Windows :D But if you are talking about Linux, I would say graphics in Linux or media playback in Linux both of which can get to be hard
[06:35] <DigitalKiwi> chu_: buy intel, it just works (tm)
[06:35] <donnybrasco> harisund: still no rotation options in grandr
[06:35] <agliodbs> nanotube: yeah, this is a headless machine and currently has no X on it
[06:35] <agliodbs> nanotube: I'd like to keep it that way
[06:36] <harisund> donnybrasco, I found http://ut2004.titaninternet.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=17533 this link that explains that you have to use xinerama for dual head and xrandr for rotation
[06:36] <nanotube> well, i'm off to bed... can try looking around tomorrow.
[06:36] <harisund> Let's try using xrandr on the command line .. one sec
[06:36] <nanotube> agliodbs: well, i'm off to bed... can try looking around tomorrow.
[06:36] <chu_> Hopefully I will be back.
[06:36] <agliodbs> good idea
[06:36] <donnybrasco> harisund: what do you think about adding that line under section "Montitor" identifier "Configured Monitor"?
[06:37] <Nitrodist> how do I change the write permissions on a directory/
[06:37] <harisund> donnybrasco, no you need to enable Rotation under the graphics card device. If you want, create a backup of the xorg.conf file and try it out. If something goes wrong, just go back to the back up
[06:37] <Nitrodist> bah, nevermind I'll just look it up :P
[06:37] <Madpilot> Nitrodist, in the file manager, right-click on the directory, choose Permissions
[06:37] <Nitrodist> Madpilot, need command line
[06:38] <eminor> man chmod
[06:38] <Madpilot> Nitrodist, chmod
[06:38] <DigitalKiwi> chown or chmod -R depending on how you want to change permissions...
[06:38] <Madpilot> ya, what eminor said
[06:38] <harisund> donnybrasco, in the command line what is the output of xrandr -q ? Can you paste it somewhere?
[06:38] <Nitrodist> what's -R do? recursive?
[06:38] <Madpilot> yes
[06:38] <Madpilot> but "man chown" is where to start
[06:38] <Nitrodist> chown? I don't need clam chowder
[06:38] <Madpilot> man chmod, raither
[06:38] <Nitrodist> or clowns
[06:38] <DigitalKiwi> both are possibly correct >.>
[06:39] <harisund> Nitrodist, I think recursive yes
[06:39] <chu_> Oh noes! :(
[06:39] <Nitrodist> indeed chu_
[06:39] <chu_> I'm probably just going to give up shortly.
[06:39] <Nitrodist> great news everyone!
[06:40] <donnybrasco> harisund: nothing happens when xrandr -q entered
[06:40] <DigitalKiwi> you just saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to geico?
[06:40] <harisund> You don't get any output at all ???
[06:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: correct
[06:41] <murlidhar> Flannel: made it thanks :)
[06:41] <harisund> You are running that when the xserver is running, right?
[06:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: as when I just enter xrandr
[06:41] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[06:42] <harisund> hmm that is really odd, xrandr tells you what monitors are connected if X is running, so if xrandr is telling you there are no monitors  whatsoever then there seems to be another problem
[06:42] <donnybrasco> harisund: you're asking me to run that from a command line, not the terminal, right?
[06:43] <harisund> How do you differentiate the two?
[06:43] <harisund> In any case, open up the terminal, what's it on KDE? Or just open xterm and type it in that
[06:43] <donnybrasco> command line is alt+F2
[06:43] <harisund> sorry I guess I must have made myself clearer
[06:43] <harisund> oh no no no
[06:43] <harisund> I meant terminal all along sorry sorry
[06:44] <Brando753> is there a way to set up vnc to allow me to turn on and/or login to my computer?
[06:44] <chu_> There should be dedicated wireless specialists!!!
[06:44] <harisund> Brando753, VNC won't do that. VNC can onlly show you an already logged into machine
[06:44] <donnybrasco> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283532/
[06:45] <DigitalKiwi> chu_: what's your problem? i haven't seen you ask any questions
[06:45] <Brando753> harisund: so there is no whay to log into to a computer via vnc, my windows pc allows me to do that
[06:45] <seidos> chu_: do you have $54?
[06:45] <harisund> Brando753, if you are already logged into the machine you want to VNC into, you can do that just like in Windows
[06:45] <seidos> well, how should I ask it?  pm me
[06:46] <mgmuscari> hey, i'm in a big pickle... i think my hard disk may be failing. i'm in the middle of recovering things, and am trying to create a bootable USB drive, but can't run the usb-creator utility because my root fs has remounted in RO mode
[06:46] <harisund> donnybrasco, what are your individual screen resolutions? Is 2560 the sum of them?
[06:46] <seidos> !paid
[06:46] <seidos> !support
[06:46] <mgmuscari> i can't get it to remount in rw mode, tried clearing the RO flag on the device using several commands including blockdev, etc
[06:46] <donnybrasco> harisund: yeah - 1280x800 (primary, laptop) 1280x1024 (secondary lcd)
[06:46] <mgmuscari> so i'm stuck right now with a RO root fs
[06:47] <mgmuscari> i'm managed to back up all my important stuff to my NAS
[06:47] <harisund> donnybrasco, ah this gets interesting .. so basically your machine sees the 2 monitors as "1 BIG screen" instead of "2 screens" so that's the first problem we need to fix
[06:47] <mgmuscari> how do i manually set up a usb flash drive to throw an ubuntu image on it? the tutorials i've found all deal with either windows programs or the ubuntu usb-creator utility which i can't run for some reason with a RO fs...
[06:48] <harisund> donnybrasco, in your terminal try typing "xrandr -o right" and see what happens?
[06:48] <xoveruk> nanotube: does it support SSH?
[06:48] <xoveruk> i need to connect to it via SSH, looks like its just a remote shell via web browser right?
[06:49] <dragon> !info anyremote
[06:49] <mgmuscari> i'm in a pickle here guys, i need to get this image on this usb disk so that i can try wiping this extended partition and see if creating new ones will bring my disk back to life :/
[06:49] <elliottcable> Hey all. Uh. Trying to get some kernel modules out of an Ubuntu AMI on EC2 (long story…), but they’re not there.
[06:50] <ricky21tom> j
[06:50] <elliottcable> /lib/modules is empty, /lib/modules/2.6.31-300-ec2 doesn’t exist.
[06:50] <dragon> !usb | mgmuscari
[06:50] <harisund> donnybrasco, any luck with xrandr -o right ?
[06:50] <donnybrasco> harisund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283536/
[06:50] <mgmuscari> dragon: i've been there already, their instructions don't seem to be useful in my situation
[06:50] <harisund> ah
[06:50] <eminor> mgmuscari, have you tried unetbootin?
[06:50] <dragon> mgmuscari: are you trying to create a bootable USB?
[06:51] <mgmuscari> yes
[06:51] <mgmuscari> here are my constraints:
[06:51]  * YoMama hugs ubottu
[06:51] <dragon> !info usb-creator | mgmuscari
[06:51] <chu_>  /quit
[06:51] <chu_> exit
[06:51] <harisund> That error happens when RandRRotation is not enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. you sure you have added Option "RandRRotation" "true" right? As in, added it as root, saved it as root etc etc .. you are sure it is not overwritten?
[06:51] <mgmuscari> i am constrained to working on a hosed ubuntu installation, with my root filesystem mounted in read only mode, and no way to recover r/w access
[06:51] <dragon> mgmuscari: this tool works perfectly in most situations.
[06:51] <mgmuscari> dragon: i just stated that usb-creator won't run when / is in read only mode...
[06:52] <dragon> mgmuscari: use a second box?
[06:52] <mgmuscari> and i can't get the read only flag to clear on my disk
[06:52] <mgmuscari> don't have one available...
[06:52] <dragon> mgmuscari: got dual boot?
[06:52] <mgmuscari> not working...
[06:52] <mgmuscari> my partition table seems to be completely screwed
[06:52] <harisund> donnybrasco, one sec, that error is common while using xrandr let me  re check to be sure. Meanwhile your /etc/X11/xorg.conf definitely has Option "RandRRotation" "true" right ?
[06:52] <blunder> ok now
[06:52] <mgmuscari> i had a DSL linux that no longer boots
[06:52] <mgmuscari> windows no longer boots...
[06:52] <dragon> mgmuscari: that sucks.
[06:53] <mgmuscari> i have an ubuntu live cd here that's giving me block device errors when i try to use it
[06:53] <dragon> anyone knows how to use "anyremote"?
[06:53] <elliottcable> Anybody know where I can get the kernel modules for an Ubuntu EC2 AMI?
[06:53] <elliottcable> there are none shipped with it, /lib/modules is empty…
[06:53] <mgmuscari> f, i really hope i don't have a failing SCSI controller or something
[06:53] <donnybrasco> harisund: that's right, I just saw someone else use "RandRRotation" "on"
[06:54] <harisund> hmm try that
[06:54] <mgmuscari> so what do i have to do to make a usb stick bootable... partition it and set the boot flag?
[06:54] <mgmuscari> do i need to put a bootloader on it? isolinux or something?
[06:54] <mgmuscari> can i just throw the ubuntu iso on there?
[06:54] <harisund> donnybrasco, what is your depth set to? 24?
[06:54] <harisund> donnybrasco, (sorry I missed your pastebin of your xorg.conf)
[06:54] <donnybrasco> harisund: yes
[06:55] <donnybrasco> no worries
[06:55] <fogel_> hi!!
[06:55] <mgmuscari> isolinux
[06:55] <sky__> can you tell me how install opera on ubuntu 9.04?
[06:55] <mgmuscari> maybe syslinux
[06:55] <donnybrasco> harisund: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=976120
[06:55] <chu_> Another failed attempt :(
[06:55] <dragon> !opera | sky__
[06:56] <ninjaII> :)
[06:56] <eminor> mgmuscari, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html
[06:56] <fogel_> i need some help to guidelines to configure a webpage for a proxy
 thanks
[06:56] <harisund> donnybrasco, looks like they did it to their monitor section .. we  should maybe try that too
[06:56] <mgmuscari> eminor: thanks
[06:56] <dragon> !welcome | sky__
[06:57] <fogel_> i ve hear about webmin but iimnot so sure
[06:57] <dragon> !webmin | fogel_
[06:57] <fogel_> :o
[06:57] <elad`> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=408OfAJu3Y8 - is this really what I'll get if I install 9.10 now?
[06:57] <chu_> If I didn't have ndiswrapper installed, how would Ubuntu be dealing with wireless networks?
[06:57] <fogel_> ebox??
[06:58] <fogel_> is a packet?!?
[06:58] <lstarnes> fogel_: poackage
[06:58] <lstarnes> *package
[06:58] <fogel_> sorry!!
[06:58] <dragon> !ebox | fogel_
[06:58] <fogel_> ebox is a package!?
[06:58] <gorkster> mgmuscari: are you able to remount the filesystem rw once you are booted? like a mount -o rw,remount / (not sure of the exact syntax)
[06:58] <harisund> donnybrasco, I am sorry man I think I need to get to sleep .. I wish I could help, but I am sure rotation is done by xrandr .. so you will have just to play around with the Option "RandRRotation" stuff in xorg.conf .. kind of like try various combinations and see if rotation works
[06:59] <mgmuscari> gorkster: already tried that, won't do it
[06:59] <lstarnes> fogel_: yes, it is a package
[06:59]  * cybic is still looking for a hint, where to configurate my trackpoint on hp nc6400, ubuntu 9.04#
[06:59] <mgmuscari> gorkster: it also doesn't seem to respond to resetting the flags on the block device itself
[06:59] <lstarnes> fogel_: in the future, if you don't know if something is a package, use aptitude show name-of-thing
[06:59] <mgmuscari> this laptop is less than a year old... maybe i should just ask lenovo to send me a new hard disk
[06:59] <lstarnes> fogel_: like aptitude show ebox
[06:59] <donnybrasco> harisund: no worries - thanks very much for all your help
[07:00] <donnybrasco> I think that last link I sent you looks promising
[07:00] <dragon> mgmuscari: have heard of several lenovos with crashed disks. it's a common problem
[07:00] <mgmuscari> i really hope that this just has to do with changing some partitions the other day
[07:00] <fogel_> thanks lstarnes!!
[07:00] <chu_> There's all this refernce to having a wireless driver available in Hardware Drivers, if I don't see this wireless driver, what are possible reasons??
[07:00] <mgmuscari> dragon: yeah, this just seems so sudden. no errors for 10 months, and then in one day epic crash
[07:00] <gorkster> mgmuscari: i would say that the disk is suspect, but if you were messing with partitions that could be it too
[07:01] <mgmuscari> dragon: i've been messing with my partitions for the past few days, i suspect it's related
[07:01] <fogel_> i really feel like a newbie when i get support from this channel!! but always works! :D
[07:01] <mgmuscari> gorkster: yeah... i treat this thing with kid gloves, i don't know why it would be the disk
[07:01] <mgmuscari> no noises or anything
[07:01] <mgmuscari> i also saw block device errors booting from an ubuntu live cd
[07:01] <eXeC001er> Hello!
[07:02] <mgmuscari> i looked up that error though, it it appeared to be a scsi driver related -
[07:02] <mgmuscari> oh
[07:02] <mgmuscari> jesus
[07:02] <elliottcable> Anybody? |-:
[07:02] <mgmuscari> i changed my sata mode in my bios to compatibility mode yesterday
[07:02] <mgmuscari> to get my DSL partition to boot
[07:02] <elad`> How secure is Ubuntu One?
[07:03] <eminor> mgmuscari, you could check the smart-values of your hard drive
[07:03] <gorkster> mgmuscari: that could do it.  any interesting info from an fsck?
[07:03] <mgmuscari> eminor: that stuff's somewhere in /proc/, but i don't remember where it usually is
[07:03] <mgmuscari> gorkster: just lots of multiply owned inodes that keep cropping up, other things
[07:03] <powertool08> Do you have to give a user execute permission to be able to read a samba share? When I chmod a folder from 655 to 654, the guest(non-authenticating) can't see the files any more.
[07:03] <mgmuscari> i have a few ext3 partitions and a few ext4
[07:04] <mgmuscari> bad journals
[07:04] <eminor> mgmuscari, you need the package smartmontools and then use smartctl
[07:04] <adrian__> adek
[07:04] <adrian__> hello
[07:04] <mgmuscari> well, if that's not already installed, then i guess i can't do that
[07:04] <mgmuscari> ah, nope
[07:04] <adrian__> czaęć
[07:04] <mgmuscari> well
[07:04] <mgmuscari> maybe if it puts it in /usr...
[07:05] <mgmuscari> i think that may still be mounted rw
[07:05] <citra> ghk;l;l
[07:05] <adrian__> thy you spik english
[07:05] <eminor> mgmuscari, does the howto not work for you?
[07:05] <mgmuscari> ah, nope, can't install anything
[07:05] <mgmuscari> howto for flash drive?
[07:05] <adrian__> my a poland
[07:05] <citra> vhhgkk
[07:05] <adrian__> polish
[07:05] <mgmuscari> i'm working on copying stuff from the iso to the flash drive now
[07:05] <cjones> how do i update my drvers agter switching from onboard to an ati x600 pro
[07:05] <mgmuscari> then i'll set up a bootloader on it...
[07:05] <eXeC001er> I build package "dpkg-buildpackage -sa" and after finish process *.dsc and *.changes files are empty.
[07:05] <eminor> what do you need to install for this?
[07:06] <mgmuscari> smartmontools to check my hdd smart status
[07:06] <eXeC001er> why?
[07:06] <chu_> o, I have this error, and apparantly the fix is to compil my own ndiswrapper.so file, however, I cannot for the life of me find anything regarding *how* to install the bloody thing.
[07:06] <eminor> no, i mean the link i gave you to prepare yur stick with ubuntu
[07:06] <eminor> +o
[07:06] <mgmuscari> eminor: yeah i'm following that
[07:07] <eminor> yes, do this before to have a working system
[07:07] <eminor> and then check your drive :)
[07:09] <Prajjwal> quick question .... is it better to install Ubuntu in a ext2 or ext3 ???
[07:09] <cjones> how do i update my drvers agter switching from onboard to an ati x600 pro
[07:09] <gorkster> Prajjwal: ext3 journaling is a good thing
[07:10] <Prajjwal> thnx ...
[07:10] <mgmuscari> augh
[07:10] <mgmuscari> firefox blew up because the fs is read only
[07:10] <mgmuscari> now i can't get initrd.gz or vmlinuz...
[07:10] <mgmuscari> i'm lucky i got the iso before / went down...
[07:11] <mgmuscari> well i'm boned now
[07:13] <mgmuscari> ugh
[07:13] <mgmuscari> brb...
[07:13] <cjones> how do i update my drvers agter switching from onboard to an ati x600 pro
[07:13] <BB_> when updating i'm having a problem connecting to ecurity.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[07:13] <SoldierNIX> I just switched over from Vista to Ubuntu, and I took all my Zune music with, but I cant play them with the DRM. Is their a linux program to strip the Zune marketplace DRM?
[07:13] <BB_> sorry - security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[07:14] <cjones> is there any help here tonight or what ?
[07:15] <chu_> It doesn't seem to be very active, but there is help occaisonally.
[07:15] <widget2343> sup all
[07:15] <leaf-sheep> cjones: There are ongoing help in this channel all times -- However, the traffic may vary according to moods, time, day/night, etc. That's called variables! :)
[07:16] <prince_jammys> !ati | cjones
[07:16] <chu_> So, I'm pretty sure I have royally screwed my system :(
[07:17] <Boohbah> cjones: what is your onboard card?
[07:17] <Boohbah> chu_: how did you do that?
[07:18] <chu_> I have no idea, which makes the problem even worse.
[07:18]  * elliottcable sighs
[07:18] <chu_> But, in an attempt to fix a problem I have no idea what it was, I'm sure my many fixes.
[07:18] <elliottcable> Maybe if I ask my question in a more generic form:
[07:18] <elliottcable> How do I get kernel modules in Ubuntu?
[07:20] <leaf-sheep> !kernel | elliottcable
[07:21] <BB_> when updating i'm having a problem connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) - what should i do?
[07:22] <stargate> God is it nice to have my ubuntu up and running nice and smooth ^_^  time to screw it up now... anyone have any resources in pam for ubuntu?
[07:22] <lstarnes> BB_: what problem exactly?
[07:23] <Boohbah> BB_: i had a brief lag when resolving security.ubuntu.com - appears to be a DNS issue
[07:23] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: wasn’t helpful, didn’t have any information about the modules )-:
[07:23] <eminor> elliottcable, your question was too generic :)
[07:23] <leaf-sheep> elliottcable: Err, I'd try search engines if I were you.
[07:23] <elliottcable> eminor: dammit! I just genericized it d-:
[07:24] <chu_> Ok, so... ndiswrapper -l returns a device! Using this information, can I do *anything* though?
[07:24] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: have done, can’t figure out why the AMI I’m using doesn’t ship with modules
[07:24] <BB_> Boohbah: lstarnes: if i use the update manager it will get stuck then say there's something wrong with that address, and now from the terminal i get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:24] <BB_> E: Unable to lock the list director
[07:24] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: thought maybe it was some weird Ubuntu thing where you don’t provide kernel modules with your AMIs… no idea, really. Hence why I’m in here
[07:24] <leaf-sheep> BB_: I experienced some packet loss when pinging security.ubuntu.com -- Just a thought
[07:24] <lstarnes> !aptfix | BB_
[07:25] <Boohbah> BB_: the latter error is because update-manager has locked the apt db
[07:25] <Boohbah> BB_: the first error depends on your local DNS resolver configuration
[07:26] <leaf-sheep> elliottcable: If you know what modules you need to use, you can add them manually.  There always are something that got overlooked.
[07:26] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: nope, trying to yank the pre–built modules out of this for my own AMIs
[07:26] <elliottcable> leaf-sheep: problem is that… well, they’re not there o_O
[07:26] <chris062689> I could really use your help guys.
[07:26] <chu_> With the ndiswrapper gtk tool, there's an option to configure networks, however, when I press it I get an error message which says "Could not find network configuration tool"
[07:26] <chu_> What tool is it looking for?
[07:27] <chris062689> I recently installed from a LIVECD, the internet was working perfectly, but upon rebooting into the installed system, my Network Manager says "Unavailable" and the internet connection isn't there.
[07:29]  * nonix4 ponders what ndiswrapper would be needed for, when actual drivers are available...
[07:29] <mgmuscari1> ok, i managed to clean up my root FS enough using fsck at a maintenance shell to get it to mount RW on reboot
[07:29] <chris062689> can someone please help me?  :(
[07:29] <mgmuscari1> im trying to use usb-creator, and when i select my .iso, it tells me: "This is not a desktop install CD and thus cannot be used by this application"
[07:30] <mgmuscari1> so... any thoughts?
[07:31] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: I'm betting the ISO you selected is not a desktop install CD and thus cannot be used by this application.
[07:31] <n8tuser> chris062689 -> paste your /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:31] <n8tuser> in pastebin
[07:31] <elad`> How do I set up 5.1?
[07:31] <mgmuscari1> "ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso"
[07:31] <TheMusicGuy> Hey, I need some help with bzr. I'm trying to keep a directory on my flash drive in sync with a file on my hard drive AND in sync with an online repo via ftp.
[07:31] <TheMusicGuy> I can't figure out how.
[07:31] <mgmuscari1> eminor: you still here? any thoughts?
[07:31] <chris062689> n8tuser:  It's blank.
[07:32] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: Run this in the terminal --> "md5sum ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso"
[07:32] <n8tuser> chris062689 -> thats the reason,  man interfaces to get more explanation
[07:32] <chris062689> I'm using ARCH though....
[07:32] <mgmuscari1> !checksum
[07:32] <mgmuscari1> !md5 9.04
[07:32] <leaf-sheep> !md5sum | mgmuscari1
[07:32] <mgmuscari1> ugh what's the checksum for 9.04
[07:33] <BB_> lstarnes: Boohbah that command doesn't help. i dunno why
[07:33] <mgmuscari1> i have the md5 hash, just need to check it against something else now...
[07:33] <alazyworkaholic> is there any way to overclock an intel graphics chip with ubuntu?
[07:33] <BB_> should i just restart?
[07:33] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[07:33] <chu_> *Sigh* 5 hours, and nothing.
[07:33] <mgmuscari1> leaf-sheep: thanks
[07:33] <chu_> Jesus this is really driving me crazy now.
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> fantastic, different md5
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> so my filesystem is buggy enough that my iso is corrupted...
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> i guess i'll download it to my NAS
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> f
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> actually
[07:34] <mgmuscari1> i can't connect to that and be online at the same time
[07:35] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: You downloaded the ISO recently?
[07:35] <mgmuscari1> about an hour ago
[07:35] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: Then the download was likely to be corrupted when you downloaded that.
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> leaf-sheep: i dunno if you were here about 15 minutes ago to hear what's going on with me... my filesystems are all throwing up errors all over the place
[07:36] <leaf-sheep> I see.
[07:36] <DuckGod> how do i make my desktop into the full rotating cube?
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> so i'm guessing that the iso is corrupted on disk
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> hm
[07:36] <leaf-sheep> !cube | DuckGod
[07:36] <mgmuscari1> i'll download to this usb drive here
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> then connect to the other network with the NAS on it
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> transfer it to the NAS
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> wipe the flash drive
[07:37] <mgmuscari1> and then make the boot stick...
[07:37] <DuckGod> ty
[07:37] <omeddragon> why is my synaptic package manager downloading packages so slow this day i use to download 1.2 mb per seccon
[07:38] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: your internet has swine flu
[07:38] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: seriously though, probably just some congestion somewhere along the path between you and the repos
[07:38] <ActionParsnip1> omeddragon: maybe your provider is performing upgrades / changes
[07:38] <ninjaII> omeddragon : could be realated to where it pulls from.  Depending on where you live, various third-parties are used
[07:38] <leaf-sheep> omeddragon: Servers may be experiencing traffic hits or mirroring new packages since Karmic Beta came out yesterday but that's just my guess!
[07:38] <ninjaII> yay!
[07:39] <ninjaII> :)
[07:39] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: leaf-sheep <- or what he said
[07:39] <ninjaII> plus i wrote some kernel code for that one :) !!!
[07:39] <ninjaII> 32 lines of awesomeness :)
[07:39] <ninjaII> ;p;
[07:39] <mgmuscari1> i should start doing that
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> ninjaII: nice :D
[07:39] <omeddragon> no my internet is fine i can downlaod anything from the internet with 1.2 mb and vidios are runing fast so why is that
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> omeddragon: its also the day after the beta, so everyone will be hammering the servers
[07:39] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: the internet isn't one big machine. your connections to various places go along many different routes
[07:40] <Flannel> omeddragon: The beta for the next version of Ubuntu was released today, and alot of people are downloading it, making some servers slow.
[07:40] <mgmuscari1> omeddragon: somewhere along the line there's congestion. sounds like it's probable that the congestion is at the server end itself
[07:40] <ninjaII> omeddragon: if you want, you can try changing your ubuntu mirror that sources.lst uses; it's your choice
[07:40] <omeddragon> oh ok thx
[07:40] <leaf-sheep> omeddragon: Try "ping -c 5 security.ubuntu.com" -- See if it came back 100%. :)
[07:40] <mgmuscari1> reminds me of a paper i read once about internet holes
[07:41] <ninjaII> the internet has holes?
[07:41] <mgmuscari1> ninjaII: yes! all over the place
[07:41] <omeddragon> lol
[07:41] <ninjaII> =D
[07:41] <mgmuscari1> ninjaII: the internet is a series of leaky tubes
[07:41] <ninjaII> lol Senator Ted Stevens at his best
[07:41] <DigitalKiwi> it starts with a goat and ends with a se...*shudder*
[07:42] <ActionParsnip1> well, some of the infrastructure is quite ancient
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> here's a random news article about it:
[07:42] <DigitalKiwi> don't look that up if you don't know what it is >.>
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> ugh
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24067737/
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> there
[07:42] <mgmuscari1> firefox went unresponsive for a second... i feel like i'm sitting on top of a volcano with this laptop right now in terms of reliability...
[07:43] <ninjaII> Connections... consumers... massive commercial purposes.  Big truck -> long distance.  It's TUBES!  Angular Tubes!  N those tubes can be filled... and if they're filled!  The Internet; is going to be delayed!
[07:43] <mgmuscari1> ActionParsnip1: at&t uses 10,000,000 old handset modems to connect europe to america
[07:44] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari1: probably having a cry, it does that
[07:44] <ninjaII> mgmuscari1: are you using linux kernel 2.6.28?
[07:44] <mgmuscari1> yes
[07:44] <mgmuscari1> 2.6.28-15
[07:44] <ninjaII> there's a problem in 2.6.28-2.6.30 with userspace swap/paging... it delays stuff unnecessarily long when your ram is full
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> 4gb ram here...
[07:45] <ninjaII> (that problem gets fixed in 2.6.31(
[07:45] <ninjaII> ooo hehe
[07:45] <ninjaII> guess you shouldn't see it :P
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> again i'm betting it's my wonky partition table
[07:45] <ActionParsnip1> full ram. wow crazy
[07:45] <leaf-sheep> mgmuscari1: You're a big baller running 4GB ram. :)
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> and/or filesystems
[07:45] <mgmuscari1> lol
[07:45] <didar> hello there good people of ubuntu
[07:45] <darksmac> hola
[07:46] <mgmuscari1> leaf-sheep: well that doesn't mean jack if my filesystems keep crashing like this...
[07:46] <didar> I have shot myself in the foot... need medic
[07:46] <mgmuscari1> it's a thinkpad w500 and this disk shouldn't have anything wrong with it :/
[07:46] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | didar
[07:46] <leaf-sheep> didar: Then why are you in here asking for linux support when you should go to hospital to get your foot treated?
[07:47] <didar> ok, ActionParsnip just give the output of `groups'
[07:47] <ninjaII> mgmuscari1: firefox a lot of times can depend on your firefox plugins... those can be pretty intensive sometimes; if you want smoother (for the time being until they fix those issues), consider opera.. i've heard nothing but good news
[07:47] <didar> leaf-sheep, that was a metaphor
[07:47] <mgmuscari1> ninjaII: at the moment i'm logged in as root, so there are no plugins :p
[07:47] <ninjaII> mgmuscari1: you can also try changing the amound of memory that firefox uses to cache content
[07:47] <mgmuscari1> my /home is long-gone...
[07:48] <leaf-sheep> didar: I know. ;3
[07:48] <mgmuscari1> i'm lucky that i can still mostly read / and /usr
[07:48] <didar> I need the output of `groups' from an xterm/gnome-terminal
[07:48] <didar> leaf-sheep, could you help me out here
[07:48] <mgmuscari1> what do you mean you need the output
[07:49] <leaf-sheep> didar: We don't even know your problem yet!
[07:49] <leaf-sheep> !ask | didar
[07:49] <alazyworkaholic> If intel's graphics drivers for linux are open source, shouldn't there be a way to overclock them? I found something that claims to work for any OS, but it's nagware & doesn't work for 64 bit. Anybody know of anything?
[07:49] <mgmuscari1> beware, we're all fairly pedantic people in here
[07:49] <didar> leaf-sheep, I have botched the default group memberships of my primary account
[07:49] <mgmuscari1> alazyworkaholic: why would OSS imply overclocking?
[07:50] <didar> leaf-sheep, that is the user that gets created during installaiotn
[07:50] <navysealltblue> I installed the ati catalyst center via the synaptic package manager gui, and now when i boot, i get a mass of crazy nonsense.  I started up in recovery mode and went to termie,  I'd appreciate help in what commands i need to type to remove that package
[07:50] <mgmuscari1> didar, try these groups: didar adm dialout cdrom audio video plugdev lpadmin netdev admin
[07:50] <ninjaII> alazyworkaholic: if the card has dynamic clocking or dynamic voltage via software control (as in, built and made accessible to the software by the hardware)... then software can overclock it or underclock it - provided that such software is written that way
[07:50] <mgmuscari1> i also have sambashare and tomcat6 but you probably don't need those...
[07:51] <leaf-sheep> didar: Make a new user -- Record the default group memberships.  Each user have various groups according to packages they installed so I'm refraining myself from giving you mine -- because I have many groups. ;o
[07:51] <didar> mgmuscari1, thats what I was looking for, thanks a ton
[07:51] <mgmuscari1> didar: some of those might not apply, but i guess it doesn't hurt to have extra groups...
[07:51] <alazyworkaholic> mgmuscari1: Not certain, I'm not a developer. I imagine that if the good people who make the driver have all the info necessary to make it work correctly, they ought to be able to flip whatever switch would overclock it.
[07:51] <googler> hello
[07:51] <ndlovu> hi all. are there any guides for using an ubuntu liveCD to recover files from a crashed ntfs filesystem?
[07:51] <jerknextdoor> i've got a file on my desktop that i can't see in nautilus and can't sudo rm.  any ideas?
[07:51] <leaf-sheep> !recovery | ndlovu
[07:52] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Err. That is not it.
[07:52] <mgmuscari1> alazyworkaholic: just because the driver is OSS doesn't mean they have the info necessary to do it. case in point: OSS ati driver developers trying to get info from ati...
[07:52] <didar> leaf-sheep, good idea that too, thanks
[07:52] <googler> i am installing gnom-ppp its give an error package not find !
[07:52] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, thanks, but the system that needs to be recovered is windows :)
[07:52] <_ruben> !info gnome-ppp
[07:53] <mgmuscari1> ndlovu you need to have the ntfs drivers loaded, and then you need to mount the ntfs filesystem
[07:53] <leaf-sheep> !undelete | ndlovu
[07:53] <mgmuscari1> ndlovu: i'd probably mount it in read only mode if i were you
[07:53] <googler> i am installing gnom-ppp its give an error package not find !
[07:53] <ndlovu> mgmuscari1, gparted says filesystem is unknown...
[07:53] <googler> i am using ubuntu 7.10
[07:54] <leaf-sheep> googler: It is a typo and Ubuntu 7.10 is no longer supported.
[07:54] <ndlovu> mgmuscari1, so I'm not sure that it would mount?
[07:54] <chu_> Nothing at all.
[07:54] <mgmuscari1> ndlovu: then you don't have the ntfs driver installed... i don't recall the package name, but i can't really look it up for you right now as i'm dealing with borked ext3/ext4 filesystems at the moment...
[07:54] <_ruben> googler: 7.10 is no longer supported
[07:54] <ActionParsnip1> !7.10
[07:54] <leaf-sheep> !gutsy | googler
[07:54] <googler> :(
[07:54] <navysealltblue> is there a way to output what packages are installed?
[07:54] <ndlovu> mgmuscari1, thanks for the suggestion, and I feel your pain
[07:54] <mgmuscari1> dpkg -l i think?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip1> navysealltblue: dpkg -l | less
[07:54] <googler> ohh no
[07:54] <googler> :(
[07:54] <chu_> If I didn't have ndiswrapper installed, what would Ubuntu be using to manage a wireless network?
[07:54] <googler> bad luck
[07:55] <navysealltblue> thanks mgmuscari1 and actionparsnip1
[07:55] <mgmuscari1> ActionParsnip1: i disagree. i think it's dpkg | more
[07:55] <alazyworkaholic> ninjall: not sure if it would have dynamic clocking or not. I get this from lshw: product: product: Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Clock 33MHz.
[07:55] <leaf-sheep> googler: We're at 9.04 right now.  9.10 in a month. :)
[07:55] <ninjaII> brb
[07:55] <ct529> hi! I have a list of blocked update in my update manager, and they have now been there for 2 weeks ....
[07:55] <leaf-sheep> googler: Why are you behind? Catch up with us!
[07:55] <googler> :( but i don't have so much bandwoth to download it
[07:55] <ct529> what are those blocked updates
[07:55] <chu_> I hope Karmic supports my f&^%ing wireless card....
[07:55] <ct529> ?
[07:56] <mgmuscari1> chu_: ndiswrapper?
[07:56] <googler> *bandwith
[07:56] <alazyworkaholic> mgmuscari1: huh. Okay, I thought Intel was quite open about their stuff. I read that even the ati people were satisfied with the docs, they just didn't have enough people to write the driver.
[07:56] <chu_> If I didn't have ndiswrapper installed, what would Ubuntu be using to manage a wireless network?
[07:56] <googler> sorry for typo
[07:56] <Madpilot> chu_, you have a wireless card that can f&^%? You'll never have to buy another - it can just breed the next generation of card for you! :)
[07:56] <googler> i don't have so much banwith to download 9.10
[07:56] <mgmuscari1> alazyworkaholic: i got bored waiting for dri2 support on my ati card a long time ago and stopped paying attention
[07:56] <googler> :((
[07:56] <googler> bad luck
[07:57] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: if there is no driver for your card then ndiswrapper is needed
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> iwconfig --f&^%?
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> ok
[07:57] <leaf-sheep> googler: You could request for Ubuntu CD.
[07:57] <alazyworkaholic> ninjall: so as far as you know there's no way to overclock an intel gma?
[07:57] <googler> how ?
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> i have to disappear to put this thing on my NAS and make a live usb stick now...
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> thanks all
[07:57] <Madpilot> googler, just after 9.10 is released, free CDs will be available - shipit.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <mgmuscari1> back later, maybe...
[07:57] <leaf-sheep> !shipit | googler
[07:57] <chu_> Apparantly the ath5k package is supplied with Ubuntu by default since Jaunty, which is the driver my card needs.
[07:57] <googler> :D
[07:58] <leaf-sheep> googler: Wait until next month? Karmic comes out in a month. :)
[07:58] <mgmuscari1> hmmm, is this still working? !test
[07:58] <alazyworkaholic> mgmuscari1: I have a 4670 w/ catalyst. Doesn't give me any problems, but phoronix tells me oss 2d is way faster.
[07:58] <googler> :D hip hip hurray ::
[07:59] <_ruben> you wont be able to upgrade from 7.10 to 9.10 directly though, either reinstall or upgrade 7.10 -> 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10
[07:59] <chu_> So like, what are other available solutions?
[07:59] <chu_> I tried looking at madwifi, but perhaps that was just a bad choice.
[07:59] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: could compile the latest driver, see if its better
[08:00] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: madwifi is great if your chip is supported by it
[08:00] <chu_> I have tried, perhaps I just don't know how though...
[08:00] <DigitalKiwi> _ruben: that's ridiculously stupid...this is why i can't live with anything but rolling release
[08:01] <navysealltblue> anyone able to tell me what packages are installed for the ati catalyst control center?   I scrolled through the list of packages down to the end of the libs and am gonna go crazy :P
[08:01] <chu_> I started trying to compile my own driver for ndiswrapper, but I couldn't get passed the make process (i.e. wouldn't let me make) and there was nothing as far as what I could do.
[08:01] <ndlovu> trying ntfsmount /dev/sda1 /media/win but it gives "Couldn't mount device '/dev/sda1' : Invalid argument" GParted can see /dev/sda1 though... any ideas?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/185/install-atheros-ar242x-802-11abg-wireless-driver-in-ubuntu
[08:02] <_ruben> DigitalKiwi: the same applies to most operating systems i am aware of
[08:02] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: can you tab complete my name at the start of sentances, the highlighting I am doing for the text I am addressing to you isnt an accident
[08:02] <chu_> ActionParsnip1: thanks man, just reading this tutorial now.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: np man, it says for a specific chip but madwifi is madwifi
[08:03] <DigitalKiwi> _ruben: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release
[08:04] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, thanks for the undelete advice, there's some good stuff there
[08:04] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: No problem. Good Luck! :3
[08:05] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: _ruben: http://nixos.org/ talking about rolling release
[08:06] <chu_> ActionParsnip1: you legend, it's working!
[08:06]  * DigitalKiwi has pacman not sure i need that ;p looks interesting though
[08:06] <chu_> ActionParsnip1: I spent so long today looking for solutions... Thanks heaps for your 5 minutes :p
[08:07] <diieggo> Hello, i need help!
[08:07] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: :) .... I was just suggesting to look at it because it looks interesting .... what is pacman btw?
[08:07] <diieggo> I have this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/283583/
[08:07] <DigitalKiwi> package manager developed by/for arch linux
[08:08] <chu_> Ok, reboot time.
[08:08] <chu_> Thanks again ActionParsnip1.
[08:08] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: are you using arch?
[08:09] <DigitalKiwi> deli linux uses it as well as a few others, and frugalware forked it, and  yes i am
[08:09] <inspiron630> what virtual machine do you guys use to run windows? vmware? or is there something better now
[08:09] <DigitalKiwi> virtualbox
[08:09] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: there is no better or best
[08:09] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: it is supposed to be quite performant .... how does it compare to ubuntu?
[08:09] <samuel> hi anyone tried installing vdr on ubuntu?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: each has advantages and disadvantages, so neither is outright better
[08:10] <ct529> inspiron630: depends what do you want to do really
[08:10] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: try a few solutions, see which provides what you need and use that one
[08:10] <ct529> inspiron630: what do you want to do?
[08:11] <navysealltblue> hallelujah!
[08:11] <DigitalKiwi> ct529: they serve different userbases, it performs very well though
[08:11] <inspiron630> i want to have a simulation as close to the real thing as possible. since i will be doing programming, assembly, etc...
[08:11] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: what do you mean? what are the userbases for the two of thme?
[08:11] <inspiron630> and maybe a game here and there
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: they both do that, qemu has raw cpu access rather than a virtualised cpu
[08:12] <ct529> inspiron630: yes, but you have to explain what would your setup be ....
[08:12] <chu_> Absolutely no change.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: not sure about 3d games, 2d games run fine
[08:12] <chu_> Still nothing under Hardware Drivers.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: you wont, madwifi IS the driver
[08:12] <ct529> inspiron630: are you starting a ubuntu desktop with gnome and you want to run a virtual machine on a window whilst running linux software? or do you want a different setup?
[08:13] <inspiron630> i'm running kubuntu and will want to emulate xp, vista and windows 7
[08:13] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: bit expensive
[08:14] <bullgard4> I called Empathy > Help > Debug. A window "Debug Window" opened. The mouse cursor changed to a vertical arrow pointing to a horizontal area. I can move the cursor. Clicking it on any button does not have an effect. Ctrl+Alt+F1 does not call a virtual console. Is Alt+PrtSc+K the only way out?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> thats a lot of licenses
[08:14] <DigitalKiwi> ct529: well ubuntu is targeted at people who want stuff preconfigured and any level of linux experience, arch is targeted at people with more experience not afraid of configuring stuff, neither is inherently good or bad, it just depends on what you want
[08:14] <inspiron630> free for me, academic alliance
[08:14] <kruykaze> my network manager is not saving manual configuration
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: nice
[08:14] <ct529> DigitalKiwi: only talking about pure performances here
[08:14] <inspiron630> :)
[08:14] <ActionParsnip1> inspiron630: vista and 7, strange
[08:15] <diieggo> whats? http://paste.ubuntu.com/283583/
[08:15] <ct529> inspiron630: in a window on your desktop?
[08:15] <chu_> ActionParsnip: What do you mean? madwifi is the driver?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: have you installed video driverss?
[08:15] <chu_> So, I won't see it under Hardware Drivers?
[08:15] <anodesni> I have a separate X screen setup with nvidia 7600gt card. I don't want my mouse to leave the screen unless I press some specific key(-combination), is this possible?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: madwifi is a driver pack
[08:16] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1 no, i first on ubuntu
[08:16] <DigitalKiwi> pure performance arch probably is better...
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: you will need to sudo rmmod ndiswrapper then probe in the driver you just made
[08:16] <kruykaze> can anyone help me with my network manager?
[08:16] <chu_> Ahahaha
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: looks like thay are needed
[08:16] <chu_> Legend :p
[08:16] <chu_> How do I know what driver I just made?
[08:16] <chu_> I guess sudo rmmod will remove all the ndis modules?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: check the guide I gave you again
[08:17] <chu_> Yeah, sorry, rebooted.. Have you still got a link?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: yes but they will load next boot, so if all this works you will need to make the system changes to not load ndiswrapper and load the one you just create
[08:17] <ct529> guys, I need to know why are those updates blocked .... they have been blocked for 2 weeks now .... it drives me insane!
[08:17] <chu_> Yeah, I just added ndiswrapper to modprobe.d's blacklist?
[08:17] <chu_> ActionParsnip1, will that be enough?
[08:18] <kruykaze> am I using an invisible font?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[08:18] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1: my driver video is Via/S3G Unichrome IGP.. i need install the driver...
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: should be
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: then run: lspci | grep -i vga
[08:18] <chu_> Cheers man, really are great help.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: and websearch for that
[08:18] <d0wn> Are there any security.ubuntu.com repo mirrors?
[08:19] <kruykaze> damn i guess i am invisible
[08:19] <ndlovu> any reason why gutsy packages aren't listed on packages.ubuntu.com? beyond supported age?
[08:19] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1 thanks
[08:19] <lstarnes> ndlovu: gutsy is no longer supported
[08:19] <kruykaze> i'll go dig an invisible hole and bury myself in it
[08:19] <chu_> Reboot time again.
[08:19] <chu_> Be back shortly.
[08:20] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, I answered your question in #ubuntu+1
[08:20] <HowDoI> Can anyone help?  I have strange graphics performance on Ubuntu Jaunty with integrated Intel 82945G graphics.  The results of "grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log" show that I'm using the i810 driver.  Is this the wrong driver?  Also, Karmic Alpha 6 locks up immediately on getting to the desktop.
[08:20] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, oh ok
[08:21] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i did that but it doesn't keep the settings
[08:22] <ndlovu> are the gutsy packages still available? "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/source/Sources.gz 404 Not found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[08:22] <leaf-sheep> !gutsy | ndlovu
[08:22] <eminor> !karmic | HowDoI
[08:23] <HowDoI> Thanks, but this is more a question about Jaunty
[08:23] <Madpilot> ndlovu, gutsy is dead. Probably time to reinstall or upgrade
[08:23] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, hmm, maybe there's something wrong with your config file
[08:23] <ashu> hi
[08:23] <HowDoI> I feel the two problems may be related
[08:23] <leaf-sheep> !intel | HowDoI
[08:23] <hnb> hi
[08:23] <leaf-sheep> HowDoI: See the first link on second factorid.
[08:23] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i just changed that with the manual adress do i need to reboot?
[08:23] <ndlovu> Madpilot, fair enough, but I am just trying to use the LiveCD for file recovery... would rather not download a whole new CD if the old one works fine
[08:24] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[08:24] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, you need to do a "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0"
[08:24] <MightyTweek> i think
[08:24] <kruykaze> ok
[08:24] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1 ubuntu is linux current or legacy?
[08:24] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Change that in your sources.list -- to point the right direction.
[08:24] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, ah, that might help, thanks
[08:25] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, interface eth0 not configured
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: a default install of ubuntu comes with chrome drivers
[08:26] <hnb> I have a question, regarding my internet connection. I installed ubuntu server 9.04 and have trouble connecting to the internet. I already checked my ip which seems to be fine (<IP_ADDRESS>) but I cannot ping the router or other machines on the network. I also cant ping google (or use apt-get for that matter). Does anyone have any ideas, or could point me in the right direction?
[08:26] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, is your network adapter at eth0 or a different device? YOu might need to do a "sudo ifconfig" to find out
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: did you also set the default gateway?
[08:27] <kruykaze> eth0
[08:27] <kruykaze> i also have lo
[08:27] <hnb> how do i do that?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: its in the same place you set your ip: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:27] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, eth0 when i do ifconfig
[08:27] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, it seems that only the CD images are there... have all gutsy repositories been removed?
[08:28] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: (i used dhcp for the ip)
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok then run: route      to show the routes, do you have the default gateway set?
[08:28] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i also noticed that it does not ask for root password to change the settings
[08:29] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: in the file you mentioned it says: auto etho0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: cool, that means its using dhcp
[08:29] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, which file are you editing?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: if you run the route command is your routers IP the default address?
[08:30] <bullgard4> I called Empathy > Help > Debug. A window "Debug Window" opened. The mouse cursor changed to a vertical arrow pointing to a horizontal area. I can move the cursor. Clicking it on any button does not have an effect. Ctrl+Alt+F1 does not call a virtual console. Is Alt+PrtSc+K the only way out?
[08:30] <hnb> no i think it is not
[08:30] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, interfaces
[08:30] <hnb> ow wait it is
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> bullgard4: log a bug
[08:30] <ndlovu> ugh... forums: "Sorry to say, but 7.10 has reached it's end of life. The repositories are no longer available."
[08:30] <hnb> default <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok can you ping that IP?
[08:30] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:30] <kruykaze> yessir
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:30] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Gutsy
[08:31] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip What do you mean by "log a bug"?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> !bug | bullgard4
[08:31] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: no, i get 100% packet loss
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok, if you run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; ifconfig      do you still get an IP address
[08:32] <MightyTweek> bullgard4: you can kill an unresponsive program by running "killall programname" where programname is the misbehaving program
[08:32] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, so what else does ifconfig say about your network adapter?
[08:33] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, should i pastebin?
[08:33] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, sure
[08:33] <bullgard4> MightyTweek: You did not read carefully what I wrote. I cannot run "killall programname".
[08:33] <root__> Hello, i'm trying to get my Kodak Easyshare DX6340 working on Ubuntu .I tried to connect it via USB but it doesn't work ... no message at all. But my pendrive when inserted works fine.Can somebody help??
[08:33] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: it seems so (the same ip) but it first shows DHCPDISCOVER 4 times, the DHCPOFFER ->REQUEST->ACK
[08:34] <hnb> i get it from the default gateway
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: ok cool
[08:34] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, http://pastebin.org/32520
[08:34] <Madpilot> root__, you might want to check the camera's settings. PTP is probably what it should be set as for storage/etc, no idea what Kodak does by default
[08:34] <MightyTweek> bullgard4, sorry! try alt-sysrq-r, then ctrl-alt-f1
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: and does the route output say: default         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[08:35] <bullgard4> MightyTweek: this has no efect.
[08:35] <root__> @Madpilot will try that thanx
[08:35] <bullgard4> s/efect/effect/
[08:35] <Madpilot> root__, or buy yourself a Canon. ;)
[08:36] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: it is the second entry (after <IP_ADDRESS> *  ...) an dit is slightly different: default        <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>        UG    100      0        0 eth0
[08:36] <hnb> (note the 100)
[08:36] <MightyTweek> hey kruykaze can I see your /etc/network/interfaces as well? thanks
[08:36] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, sure
[08:36] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, I need the Desktop CD to do recovery, so I may as well download 9.04. downloading a CD in south africa is not a joke - pigeons have been proved to be a faster means of data transfer (http://tinyurl.com/yewpady)
[08:37] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: I read that news awhile ago. :)
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: thats the metric, maybe that means something
[08:37] <root__> @Madpilot I can`t find PTP  What is it?
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all, kind of out of topic for this forum, but I lack another idea. I've got a Comtrend CT-5624 ADSL+ Router from my ISP (Evil Verizon on Misawa AB so I can't select another). They provide normal user stuff, but not HTTP/FTP/SSH for us geeks. Any ideas on how to route my sites through this device? (http://www.openlug.com for example)
[08:37] <Madpilot> root__, can't recall what it stands for, something Transfer Something - check your camera's manual for it's transfer settings.
[08:37] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, i just changed to http://pastebin.org/32521 and did not reboot yet
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299540
[08:38] <chu_> Argh, so when do my wireless drivers appear in Hardware Drivers?
[08:38] <MightyTweek> bullgard4, you might need to alt-sysrq-k then
[08:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Right now if you attempt my site you get the router's login request. I've only got a guest user login, so I can't change port forwarding etc ..
[08:38] <Madpilot> ndlovu, got family in RSA, whole universities down there have less bandwidth than households here in Canada!
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: try setting the metric to 0, se if it gets used
[08:38] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: lol @ birdseed must not have any performance enhancing seeds within
[08:39] <root__> @Madpilot ok
[08:39] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: are they blocking port 80?
[08:40] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, your interfaces file doesn't reference eth0 at all, just wlan0. is it your wireless connection you're trying to set up or the wired one?
[08:40] <ndlovu> yup, it's pretty ugly over here. anybody got a pigeon they'd be willing to strap a 9.04 data card to?
[08:40] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: if so, choose a higher port, or get a real web host
[08:40] <minga_> c.efnet.net
[08:40] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah, they said (a guy I know that knows their tech support) said they stealth the ports ..
[08:40] <Administrator_>  Is there any way to specify or export an Xserver ip addres in ubuntu permanently
[08:40] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, wired i'm using wireless now
[08:40] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: im trying to figure out how
[08:41] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah:  My ps3, torrents etc all work okay, I just can't ssh, ftp/http to my servers ..
[08:41] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, should i replace wlan with eth0?
[08:41] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1: hey man my driver graphics don't have for linux .-.
[08:42] <Khisanth> the PS3 would only need to make outgoing connections and torrents would be slightly degraded but still functional ...
[08:42] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: yup, you can setting your web server to listen on a random high port and see if it makes a difference, otherwise there is no good way to run a server on that network as they are blocking incoming connections
[08:42] <Khisanth> NineTeen67Comet: if you don't have admin privileges there isn't much you can do short taking the risk to open the thing up ...
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: looks like you just add it below the iface inet eth0 dhcp     line
[08:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah: yeah, I tried setting webmin up to the default 10,000 .. din' work either .. lol
[08:43] <lizzzy> I tried playing a song and I get this error: "Both audiosink and alsasink elements are missing"?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: just put:   metric 0
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man5/interfaces.5.html
[08:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Yeah thinkin' I might try a hard reset and hope the DSL settings don't change and break it .. lol
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: damn
[08:43] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: i would suggest looking at a cheap VPS hosting provider to run your servers then
[08:43] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, yes, if you want to configure eth0, your interfaces file needs to reference that device
[08:43] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, and reboot?
[08:43] <NineTeen67Comet> thanks Khisanth and Boohbah .. I'll hammer their customer support a little more; see if I can't get a little more tech savy guy on the line ..
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: keep diging omething may turn up. You may have to edit xorg.conf but it can be done
[08:44] <Boohbah> NineTeen67Comet: good luck getting ahold of an actual network administrator :)
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Boohbah: yeah, I've been looking into clouds too .. just don't like paying monthly for something I can do for free yah know ..
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> lol
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> yeah
[08:44] <NineTeen67Comet> g'night
[08:44] <MightyTweek> kruykaze, I think an ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 should suffice
[08:45] <kruykaze> MightyTweek, eth0 not configured so i'll reboot and be back
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> diieggo: if you websearch the exact output of the command I gave then you may have more luck
[08:46] <lizzzy> Do I have to install some missing audio plugins? -------> "Both audiosink and alsasink elements are missing"?
[08:47] <ndlovu> downloading... estimated download time 4:22:00
[08:47] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: it didnt help. I now have metric 0, but still cant ping the default gateway (i get Host unreachable)
[08:47] <YungRipp> Hi..I just installed xchat, and it doesn't list the number of users on the right..
[08:47] <ducanh> hi everyone
[08:47] <YungRipp> instead, just states the number of users on the left
[08:47] <YungRipp> rather than listing them
[08:47] <YungRipp> i see nothing in configuration to change this behavior
[08:48] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, what program are you using? and what kind of file are you trying to play? Does it play other files okay?
[08:48] <johnnym3> hello!
[08:48] <ducanh> how can I obtain tabbed browsing feature in GNOME?
[08:48] <johnnym3> and good evening as well!  i'm having some troubles, wondering if anyone could help out?!
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> hnb: all i can think is reboot reouter and reboot system
[08:49] <leaf-sheep> ducanh: For Nautilus? CTRL + T
[08:49] <diieggo> ActionParsnip1: whats problem Unichrome Graphics?
[08:49] <ducanh> @leaf-sheep: No, for the file manager
[08:49] <hnb> ActionParsnip1: ok, thanks. its a very strange problem
[08:49] <leaf-sheep> YungRipp: In XChat, View --> User List
[08:49] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: No, Amarok is crashing, saying that the default hda intel device failed! So, I played a regular mp3 file using songbird. I googled and it seems it's not a player-specific issue.
[08:49] <root__> @Madpilot I could not find any such settings . But I could make the camera work with windows XP doesn`t that mean the necessary settings are proper??
[08:49] <papapepper> I love linux... how do I install the desktop environment on my server only ubuntu?
[08:49] <leaf-sheep> ducanh: Nautilus is the name for the file manager. ;3
[08:50] <YungRipp> Ah, so my version doesn't seem to have that option..
[08:50] <leaf-sheep> YungRipp: What package?
[08:50] <YungRipp> I installed via add/remove
[08:50] <fosco_> paprna_, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <YungRipp> XChat-GNOME 0.26.1
[08:50] <YungRipp> is the version i am using
[08:50] <papapepper> and while I'm at it, what do people recommend for window manager?
[08:50] <YungRipp> ahhh
[08:50] <ducanh> @leaf-sheep: oh, ok :D, thanks
[08:50] <YungRipp> Discussion->Users
[08:50] <MightyTweek> !ask | johnnym3
[08:50] <YungRipp> bleh
[08:50] <leaf-sheep> YungRipp: XChat-GNOME is not same as XChat.  Remove XChat-GNOME and install XChat.  They're different thing but XChat is far better. :)
[08:50] <papapepper> KDE or GNOME?
[08:51] <YungRipp> OK, shall do so
[08:51] <Madpilot> root__, no idea, sorry. My Canon has always 'just worked'. What happens if you go to F-Spot or gthumb and try "Import from Camera" after plugging it in?
[08:51] <DigitalKiwi> paolob: neither kde or gnome are window managers
[08:51] <paolob> Hi guys! trying to upgrade to karmic: update-manager stops saying "Authentication failed
[08:51] <paolob> Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server. "
[08:51] <DigitalKiwi> papapepper: ^
[08:51] <Madpilot> papapepper, that's a Holy War question. Whichever  you like better, or hate least, is the only right answer :)
[08:52] <DigitalKiwi> sorry paolob
[08:52] <ZykoticK9> papapepper, you are kinda approching this backwards.  it's MUCH easier to install server services on a desktop ubuntu then the reverse that you're trying - installing desktop on server.  Server is designed NOT to run with a GUI.  But it could be a great learning tool to try ;)  Good luck man.
[08:52] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, was it amarok or songbird that was giving you the "both audiosync and alsasync" error?
[08:52] <leaf-sheep> papapepper: It is a flavor. Do you prefer Vanilla or Chocolate? They are essentially different but they get the job done same. It's up to user's likings.
[08:52] <root__> @Madpilot as soon as i plug it in nothing happens I cannot access the camera
[08:52] <DigitalKiwi> awesome wm is pretty cool
[08:53] <Madpilot> root__, so asking F-Spot or gthumb to import from camera doesn't work?
[08:53] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: songbird.
[08:53] <papapepper> Is chocolate or vanilla any more easy to develop in or more widely supported by enterprise linuxes?
[08:54] <ddddddddd> I have no sound on 9.04. 82801G and 2.6.28-15-generic
[08:54] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, when did this start happening? did you make any recent changes to your system which might have caused the problem?
[08:54] <papapepper> ZykoticK9: yeah, install kept crashing, so I just installed BASIC system
[08:54] <ddddddddd> Any ideas?
[08:54] <papapepper> not really a lot of server stuff installed, just command line base
[08:54] <papapepper> Madpilot: I think I like that one best :-)
[08:55] <YungRipp> Sweet, that was easy
[08:55] <DigitalKiwi> http://omploader.org/vMjgyag papapepper
[08:56] <papapepper> is KDE or GNOME any more "free" license wise?
[08:56] <YungRipp> Aren't they both exactly GPL?
[08:56] <papapepper> and what are they called? i know it's not window managers
[08:56] <ddddddddd> papapepper, Both are free as in freedom.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> papapepper: both are gpl licensed
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> well QT is lgpl isn't it?
[08:56] <ddddddddd> papapepper, Desktop Environment.
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> Qt*
[08:56] <papapepper> gnome is the gnu pet, right?
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> dual licensed even iirc
[08:57] <ddddddddd> gnu pet?
[08:57] <leaf-sheep> !away > nephesh|sleep
[08:57] <shoss> Hello, I got a zombie process that keeps reappearing after restarting the computer (jaunty amd64 Gnome). I know there's probably not much to worry about I just want to know if there's anyway so see what is the parent process for that zombie...?
[08:57] <phantomcircuit> hi there
[08:57] <papapepper> gnu pet project?
[08:57] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: I installed kubuntu-desktop and uninstalled ubuntu-desktop. It did play music all this time and I experienced these problems when i had ubuntu-desktop too(sometimes).
[08:57] <papapepper> under gnu's wing?
[08:57] <root__> @madpilot When i use F-spot there is no camera option to select from the "import source"
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> papapepper: both are DEs, you can run whatever window manager you like on them (Gnome uses metacity by default, kde usus kwin)
[08:57] <phantomcircuit> sound has stopped working on my 9.04 laptop, also not muted
[08:57] <phantomcircuit> :P
[08:57] <papapepper> lizzzy: right on topic!
[08:57] <nonix4> How do I make apparmor spam the logs less? aa-logprof just exits with zero exit code, without actually doing anything...
[08:57] <ddddddddd> papapepper, It was originally started by the GNU project because KDS used to be non-free.
[08:58] <ddddddddd> *KDE
[08:58] <papapepper> ++ddddddd
[08:58] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, so it's a sporadic issue? Have you tried booting from a live CD, and if so, does sound work there?
[08:58] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: Try running in the terminal --> sudo alsactl init
[08:58] <Madpilot> root__, very odd. Have you tried googling your camera model and "Ubuntu" or just "linux" together?
[08:58] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, seems you were right about the old-releases: all that needs to change is the URL in sources.list must be changed from archive. and security. to old-releases.ubuntu.com. I should listen more closely :)
[08:58] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, i heard a pop
[08:59] <phantomcircuit> success
[08:59] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: Well, I have a fedora liveUSB and windoze on another partition. I experience no such problems.
[08:59] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: So you got your sound back then? ;o
[08:59] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: That was the idea. What were you doing? o.o
[08:59] <phantomcircuit> yeah
[08:59] <cheese_za> good day all
[08:59] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, I was checking the website
[09:00] <papapepper> cheese, gdty
[09:00] <cheese_za> :)
[09:00] <cheese_za> i have a display driver related query
[09:00] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Ah. You got distracted is all. Yeah. Just redirect all URL, update, upgrade.  Then you can get your packages. You got them already, right?
[09:01] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, updating packages at the moment
[09:01] <cheese_za> i have a matsonic MS9158E+ motherboard with a built in display card. I believe it is a S3 Prosavage 8 chipset
[09:01] <chu_> gonzojive has the most impressive domain.
[09:01] <ndlovu> leaf-sheep, yay, testdisk installing :)
[09:01] <root__> @ Madpilot it just recognised it. But it is giving an error "couldnot lock the camera" while connecting the camera
[09:01] <cheese_za> unbuntu 9.04 does not detect the display card
[09:01] <MightyTweek> lizzzy, I suspect you may need to reinstall a package related to alsa... maybe try reinstalling alsa-base
[09:01] <cheese_za> i tried to get chrome working but to no avail
[09:02] <leaf-sheep> ndlovu: Mirrors are slow today. (On account of Karmic Beta release).  I'm still waiting for the last 20MB. :(
[09:02] <cheese_za> so i am stuck on 800X600 resolution
[09:02] <root__> @madpilot i mean i could select the camera from the import source option but i am getting that error
[09:02] <Madpilot> root__, my camera does that sometimes - what I have to do is unmount the camera, then re-run the Import command from inside gthumb. it's a known issue with camera mounting in the current verison of Ubuntu.
[09:02] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: Will do that now
[09:02] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, ppsssst the columbia.edu mirror is running full speed
[09:03] <root__> @Madpilot ok i will try that
[09:04] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: Psssst... Local repo mirror <3  (FASTEST)
[09:04] <diieggo> whats command for edit xorg?
[09:04] <cheese_za> does anyone know how to get the drivers for my card working?
[09:04] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, well i've clocked columbia.edu at 7.0 MB/s
[09:05] <leaf-sheep> phantomcircuit: Nice. You live near that mirror?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: try this in your xorg.conf
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: http://pastie.org/639112\
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: http://pastie.org/639112
[09:05] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: alsa installed is the newest version
[09:05] <frandieguez>  Hi to all, I'm a member of Ubuntu Galician Translators and I'm testing Ubuntu Karmic beta on galician language (gl_ES) and after 2 weeks solving all the translation errors on alfa6 we can see that the ubiquity-slideshow isn't showed translated yet. What is the procedement for make Ubuntu integrate the translations made on launchpad on the final product release?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: you only need to add lines 3 to 6
[09:06] <chu_> ActionParsnip. The first link you gave me talked about madwifi, this next link (I saved this one) talks about compat-wireless, they're not the same thing, are they?
[09:06] <cheese_za> will do ActionParsnip1
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: so it will actually look like this: http://pastie.org/639114
[09:06] <phantomcircuit> leaf-sheep, no it's connected directly to a cogent backbone that verizon business internet has forgotten about after they bought the line
[09:06] <YungRipp> Hi guys
[09:06] <cheese_za> will let you know how it turns out
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> cheese_za: you will need: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:06] <YungRipp> Can you recommend an editor for rails development on ubuntu?
[09:06] <Madpilot> frandieguez, Karmic questions to #ubuntu+1, please
[09:06] <phantomcircuit> i think it actually maxes out at MUCH higher than that but my line is limited to 7MB/s
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: not sure, play around with them tosee what you can get
[09:07] <Darkomen> !keep semperfi
[09:07] <MightyTweek> sorry lizzzy, I've gotta go. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting might be helpful
[09:07] <mgmuscari> ugh, the ubuntu installer keeps crashing out mysteriously right after formatting partitions
[09:07] <frandieguez> @Madpilot ok
[09:07] <chu_> It seems compat-wireless one doesn't support the AR928X, so back to madwifi though.
[09:07] <mgmuscari> or right in the middle of formatting partitions
[09:08] <mgmuscari> so am i to assume my disk is fried?
[09:08] <lizzzy> MightyTweek: Cool! Thanks for your help though.
[09:08] <shoss> How do I find the file responsible for a certain pid, as in what is the command line to use?
[09:08] <papapepper> anyone run irssi??
[09:08] <mgmuscari> shoss: ps aux
[09:08] <shoss> mgmuscari: thanks
[09:08] <chu_> There's a response on the Ubuntu forums regarding this wireless chipset and pretty much my exact problem, what is wicd? As that appears to have solved it.
[09:08] <mgmuscari> shoss: and if you want to see what process is using a particular file, use lsof
[09:08] <chu_> !wicd
[09:08] <papapepper> I'm trying to type irc commands as text, but two slashes doesn't escape
[09:09] <papapepper> !irc
[09:09] <chu_> Just use like [/ quit]
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: wicd is a wireless manager like network manager afaik
[09:09] <papapepper> like this?
[09:09] <my_haz> how do i run a command/script when the screen saver starts
[09:09] <DigitalKiwi> papapepper: / /
[09:10] <chu_> Let me try wicd then :)
[09:10] <papapepper> yeah, double slash isn't working like it does in colloquy
[09:10] <DigitalKiwi> there is a space
[09:10] <snuxoll> YungRipp: heard you needed some advice on editors/IDE's
[09:10] <shoss> is this normal, how do I terminate this?:5458  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    09:26   0:00 [sci] <defunct>
[09:10] <papapepper> my son was holding a stuffed penguin at the ymca daycare yesterday.... i almost got teary
[09:10] <papapepper> :`-)
[09:11] <mgmuscari> shoss: kill 5458
[09:11] <mgmuscari> shoss: if it's really naughty and won't die, kill -9 5458
[09:11] <mgmuscari> i forget... does the Z indicate zombie process?
[09:11] <papapepper> hey, I know it's a pain in the ass to find hardware the OS X will run on, but can't I run it on a virtual machine from ubuntu?
[09:12] <shoss> mgmuscari: its a defunct / zombie, i tried kill -9 but no go, it keeps coming back after reboot, i'm trying to find the responsible application that's causing it...
[09:12] <mgmuscari> lsof | grep 5458 might help?
[09:12] <papapepper> xen has been difficult for me in the past, but i've got a virtual box install cd
[09:13] <munky> hi, i have ubuntu hardy audio preview doesn't work, why
[09:13] <chu_> Oh man, wicd doesn't like the gnome-network manager
[09:13] <chu_> That scared me.
[09:13] <shoss> mgmuscari: no output
[09:13] <munky> i installed sudo apt-get install esound mpg123 mpg123-esd mpg321 vorbis-tools sox
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> papapepper: the license of OSX means it must be ran on mac hardware, you are violating your license
[09:13] <mgmuscari> shoss: figures...
[09:13] <GiveMeWeed> hi there im doing some work about how to handle users and groups under linux....
[09:13] <munky> why doesn't work?
[09:13] <mgmuscari> shoss: not sure what to tell you... check /etc/init.d?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> GiveMeWeed: cool
[09:13] <GiveMeWeed> and i have read that are 2 types of groups, i dont uderstand this
[09:14] <chu_> Ok, hopefully a reboot will fix it.
[09:14] <GiveMeWeed> u know what i mean?
[09:14] <MarcoPau> Hello, I've been trying to upgrade in the last two days but I get this error: can't exec "/usr/bin/defoma-app": No file or directory at /usr/sbin/update-pangox-aliases line 48. Failed to clean up for defoma: -1 at /usr/sbin/update-pangox-aliases line 48. Using jaunty with a few PPA repos... Any hint?
[09:14] <my_haz> papapepper: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> GiveMeWeed: its not a supprt question dude, head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <GiveMeWeed> ok ty
[09:15] <stwange> are some of the repositories down? I keep timing out trying to upgrade, each attempt gets about 2.5mb before failing. I can upgrade in chunks....
[09:15] <shoss> mgmuscari: /etc/init.d is a big dir :)
[09:15] <mgmuscari> shoss: that it is... you could start selectively turning things off until your zombie process goes away
[09:15] <Xgates> what kernel version is in 9.10 beta?
[09:15] <mgmuscari> is it the same PID every time?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> stwange: the beta of karmic was out yesterdat,busy servers = slow download
[09:15] <mikejaer> Hi
[09:15] <shoss> mgmuscari: thanks
[09:15] <stwange> ah that explains it. Thanks ActionParsnip
[09:15] <stwange> ah that explains it. Thanks ActionParsnip1 even
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> stwange: any big release day hammers the server as folks pull stuff down
[09:17] <snuxoll> which is why you people should be using the torrents
[09:17] <mgmuscari> shoss: np
[09:17] <GiveMeWeed> whell there r the supplementary/secondary
[09:17] <Xgates> what kernel version is in 9.10 beta?
[09:18] <mgmuscari> does anybody here recall having problems installing 9.04? specifically install.py randomly crashing at the format partitions step
[09:18] <papapepper> ActionParsnip1: not yet, I'm not :-)
[09:19] <chu_> Mmmm, wicd doesn't find my wireless either :( Any advice for the WPA Supplicant Driver to use? I have selected madwifi and ndiswrapper; neither worked.
[09:20] <mgmuscari> !md5sum
[09:20] <root__> @Madpilot it worked thanx. Now i dont have to buy cannon ;-)
[09:21] <Madpilot> root__, good to hear. Canon make nice cameras, though. :)
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> chu_: not all wifi devices can connect to WPA in linux
[09:22] <mgmuscari> ugh
[09:22] <mgmuscari> finally
[09:22] <mgmuscari> correct checksum
[09:22] <mgmuscari> well
[09:23] <chu_> Bugger, a few sites I read said wicd did well with the Atheros AR928x, perhaps I'm just unlucky :(
[09:23] <mgmuscari> i guess it turns out that my laptop is hosed SO BADLY, that it can't even reliably write to a usb drive or samba mounted drive...
[09:23] <mgmuscari> ughhhh i hope my /home backed up ok
[09:23] <root__> @Madpilot will keep that in mind :)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: boot to livecd and backup then
[09:24] <cheslyn> hi guys !!
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: doesnt matter whats on the internal disk then ;)
[09:24] <mgmuscari> ActionParsnip1: my partitions steadily degraded to the point where nothing worked
[09:24] <mgmuscari> i was having problems with the livecd i had
[09:24] <mgmuscari> it kept throwing up scsi errors or something
[09:25] <mgmuscari> if my sata controller just randomly failed i will be EXTREMELY upset with lenovo
[09:25] <chu_> Now, if the wireless *was* working, regardless of if I could connect to the nework, there should be wireless networks found (there are at least 2 right near me), however nothing is found, so perhaps my card isn't "activated" I don't know....
[09:25] <cheslyn> can anyone tell me you able 2 download xchat on a mobile phone
[09:25] <mgmuscari> so i tried to make a usb stick to boot from...
[09:26] <mgmuscari> now i'm doing it from my server here
[09:26] <mgmuscari> i'm glad that i opted to at least keep GDM installed in case i ever need it
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: wowsers
[09:29] <mgmuscari> room is clearing out...
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> mgmuscari: get the data off fast
[09:29] <mgmuscari> ActionParsnip1: i already managed to get /home onto my NAS
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> cool
[09:30] <mgmuscari> i'm running a low-level diagnostic of the hard disk right now from the bios
[09:30] <mgmuscari> if this passes, i'll really be scratching my head...
[09:30] <mgmuscari> i guess it would just mean that my fs drivers got corrupted
[09:31] <mgmuscari> class at 11am :(
[09:31] <mgmuscari> i started with this 2 days ago:
[09:31] <mgmuscari> http://img18.yfrog.com/i/o5zv.jpg/
[09:32] <mgmuscari> ended up here earlier tonight:
[09:32] <mgmuscari> http://img188.yfrog.com/i/cocuv.jpg/
[09:32] <mgmuscari> blurry but basically / would not mount in rw mode no matter what
[09:32] <mgmuscari> then here http://img96.yfrog.com/i/wgo.jpg/
[09:33] <^Phantom^> How do I search for a file in ubuntu?
[09:33] <mgmuscari> now here :/ http://img23.yfrog.com/i/pk9r.jpg/
[09:33] <^Phantom^> I want to find a file on my windows drive, but I don't know how to use the search function very well...
[09:33] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: find
[09:33] <mgmuscari> cd to your windows drive in a terminal
[09:33] <mgmuscari> then do
[09:33] <mgmuscari> find | grep filename
[09:33] <^Phantom^> oklay
[09:33] <mgmuscari> will probably take a while...
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> yeah especially if you do it that way
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> man find
[09:34] <mgmuscari> phantomcircuit: is there a better way to search an ntfs partition?
[09:34] <snuxoll> but the locate databes probably won't have your windows partition indexed
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> yeah you use find correctly
[09:34] <snuxoll> so no, there isn't really a better way
[09:34] <phantomcircuit> dont pipe it through grep ffs
[09:34] <mgmuscari> live and learn :)
[09:34] <snuxoll> phantomcircuit: you won't save any time by using find 'correctly'
[09:34] <^Phantom^> um...
[09:34] <YungRipp> Has anyone successfully installed Rails?
[09:34] <^Phantom^> i'm already doing that...
[09:34] <snuxoll> phantomcircuit: grep is exceptionally fast
[09:35] <snuxoll> YungRipp: yes
[09:35] <YungRipp> I'm following the instructions on the website, but it isn't working..
[09:35] <^Phantom^> the drive is hosed anyway
[09:35] <YungRipp> sudo gem install rubygems-update
[09:35] <YungRipp> sudo update_rubygems
[09:35] <YungRipp> So i executed both of those..
[09:35] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: mine too!
[09:35] <YungRipp> but the latter, it can't find 'update_rubygems'
[09:35] <YungRipp> and i tried to find the file, but couldn't
[09:35] <YungRipp> so it can find it if I do not sudo..
[09:35] <YungRipp> but cannot if i do
[09:35] <FloodBot1> YungRipp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <snuxoll> YungRipp: I always install rubygems manually, the ubuntu install never works right
[09:35] <^Phantom^> cd media
[09:35] <^Phantom^> oops wrong window :(
[09:35] <mgmuscari> yungripp: use the absolute path when you sudo
[09:36] <YungRipp> ok, let me try that
[09:37] <AlexxC> hello
[09:37] <YungRipp> But how can I find the file update_rubygems?
[09:37] <YungRipp> neither locate nor find seem to work
[09:37] <mgmuscari> AlexxC: how may we be of assistance?
[09:37] <mgmuscari> YungRipp: if it's in your path, which update_rubygems, i guess
[09:38] <snuxoll> YungRipp: erm, where exactly did you get this rubygems-update package?
[09:38] <snuxoll> oh, with gem itself
[09:38] <snuxoll> that's why
[09:38] <YungRipp> That is what the tutorial on the ubuntu website says to do
[09:38] <snuxoll> YungRipp: Ubuntu's rubygems package is wonky, it doesn't work right
[09:39] <YungRipp> Hrm
[09:39] <YungRipp> The website suggests working through gems
[09:39] <snuxoll> YungRipp: go to the rubygems website and install the latest version yourself
[09:39] <YungRipp> fair enough
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: try: sudo find / -iname "update_*"
[09:39] <snuxoll> YungRipp: (after uninstalling the one in the repos)
[09:39] <YungRipp> i hope it won't cause weird dependency issues later..
[09:39] <YungRipp> ah, thanks action_parsnip1
[09:39] <snuxoll> YungRipp: it won't, gems is self-contained and only needs ruby itself
[09:39] <nmvictor> which file does update manager read?
[09:40]  * snuxoll is a ruby developer
[09:40] <snuxoll> nmvictor: what do you mean?
[09:40] <YungRipp> OK, the find command seems to have been a win
[09:40] <YungRipp> hehe
[09:40] <Boohbah> it usually is
[09:41] <YungRipp> Wonder why it was in my path, but not in sudo path..
[09:41] <YungRipp> ah well
[09:41] <snuxoll> YungRipp: because sudo resets your environment
[09:41] <snuxoll> and, as I said, our rubygems package sucks
[09:41] <snuxoll> it puts everything in /var/gems and adds it to the path in a way that doesn't work when sudo resets the environment
[09:42] <Boohbah> snuxoll: you ever used http://www.capify.org/index.php/Capistrano  ?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: find is a killer app, iname makes the name case (i)nsensitive
[09:42] <snuxoll> Boohbah: yup
[09:42] <YungRipp> I see
[09:42] <zeltak> anyone know of a twitter client for irc?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: also put quotes round what you are finding so that spaces and special chars are managed
[09:42] <nmvictor> snuxoll, i mean when you fire up UM, the packages it displays as available updates are definitely stored in a file from which it reads.
[09:42] <YungRipp> will do
[09:42] <snuxoll> nmvictor: update-manager gets all of its information from libapt
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> YungRipp: locate couldnt find its ass with 2 hands
[09:43] <Boohbah> zeltak: i imagine that would depend on your irc client
[09:43] <snuxoll> nmvictor: which works on both the apt package listings and the dpkg database
[09:43] <cvbnm> hi
[09:43] <snuxoll> nmvictor: not files you want to touch by hand
[09:43] <cvbnm> anyone know about mozilla nss ?
[09:43] <zeltak> thx Boohbah im using weechat (command line irc). but i know some clients are program independet, act as a server i guess?
[09:43] <Boohbah> zeltak: or do you want an irc bot that speaks twitter?
[09:43] <^Phantom^> Okay
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> !anyone | cvbnm
[09:44] <Guest45839> can I update my alpha to beta version through internet,i am using 9.10
[09:44] <^Phantom^> Here's a question:  I want to run a virus scan on my windows partition from within ubuntu.  Is that possible?
[09:44] <mgmuscari> yaaayyyyyyy it tested my disk AND my controller
[09:44] <mgmuscari> and they both pass
[09:44] <Boohbah> zeltak: there's http://twirssi.com/ for irssi
[09:44] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: there are some linux virus scans around
[09:45] <cvbnm> help me with nss..
[09:45] <mgmuscari> ^Phantom^: the specific names of them escape me. but yes, you can do that. lots of webmail servers scan attachments for viruses, yes?
[09:45] <Boohbah> zeltak: i recommend trying irssi if you haven't
[09:45] <zeltak> yeah but that is indeed prog specific (for irssi) im using weechat :)
[09:45] <zeltak> ive tried both irssi and weechat but for some reaso liked wechat more
[09:45] <Guest45839> can I update my alpha to beta version through internet,i am using 9.10
[09:45] <zeltak> and stayed with it
[09:45] <chu_> Ok, so, wicd is useless to me, how do I revert back to the old network manager?
[09:45] <chu_> apt-get purge wicd?
[09:45] <YungRipp> Sweet, installed!
[09:46] <YungRipp> I wish the website were Wikified..
[09:46] <YungRipp> ah well
[09:46] <Boohbah> zeltak: http://www.weechat.org/files/scripts/old/weeter.pl
[09:46] <YungRipp> Or maybe I should just document the steps that worked
[09:46] <Guest45839> can I update my alpha to beta version through internet,i am using 9.10