[00:03] <a_b0y> how do you set up extended display?
[00:06] <a_b0y> how do you set up extended display?
[00:10] <EvilResistance> !repeat
[11:30] <thecheggs> hey hey hey
[11:44] <leszek> hi
[11:44] <head_victim> Has anyone else ever come across bug 880084 ?
[14:22] <skrite> hey all, great little distro you guys have here.
[14:23] <KANLIOT> ya
[14:25] <skrite> is it a big deal to replace lxdm with slim ?
[14:25] <KANLIOT> i doubt it
[14:26] <KANLIOT> slim is already packaged
[14:28] <skrite> KANLIOT: will an apt-get install replace lxde with slim? nervous to try .. :)
[14:29] <KANLIOT> i donno
[14:29] <KANLIOT> try in a vm if you can
[14:29] <gordonjcp> skrite: what's the worst that could happen?
[14:30] <KANLIOT> besides have you tried 12.04?
[14:30] <gordonjcp> if it goes *incredibly* wrong, you get to reinstall
[14:30] <gordonjcp> big wow
[14:31] <skrite> KANLIOT: i have not tried 12.04, was going to do that when i get home from work.
[14:31] <skrite> gordonjcp: good point.
[16:03] <dove_g> anyone using opera 11.62 on 64bit lubuntu
[16:05] <dove_g> opera 11.62 freezuing all the time
[16:17] <theluckymike> my cpu is running in 0,8ghz mode right now and when it's using more power it switch to 1,6ghz. how can I make him all the time run on 1,6ghz?
[16:24] <gordonjcp> depends somewhat on the CPU family
[16:25] <gordonjcp> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_Frequency_Scaling <- helpful
[16:39] <theluckymike> thx gordonjcp
[16:43] <wxl> i've had a precise vm made from the 20120215 alpha and it's been running so good i just kept updating and updating. recently this became impossible to do. i get errors like this: http://pastebin.com/tEzySDkx any ideas why?
[18:05] <ilija> hy i just installed gimp 2.8 in Lubuntu 11.10 i i want icon in my Lxmenu
[18:05] <ilija> how to add this icon
[18:05] <ilija> in Menu->Graphic
[19:02] <pmatulis_> is there a way to bind a keystroke to suspend?
[19:02] <bioterror> why not
[19:02] <bioterror> first we need to figure out which command sends the suspend
[19:17] <johnny|> Is there any way to get the microphone working if you had your motherboard audio disabled when you installed Lubuntu?
[19:18] <bioterror> johnny|, alsamixer?
[19:18] <johnny|> bioterror, tried that
[19:18] <bioterror> it's unmuted?
[19:18] <bioterror> and you have lifted the levels up
[19:18] <johnny|> Unfortunately its only seeing my NVIDIA HD Card and my Camera Mic.
[19:19] <johnny|> Even though I enabled the Azalia card in the bios (it was disabled previously)
[19:19] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[19:19] <johnny|>  0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[19:19] <johnny|>                       HDA NVidia at 0xfe67c000 irq 19
[19:19] <johnny|>  1 [CameraB404271  ]: USB-Audio - USB Camera-B<IP_ADDRESS>
[19:19] <johnny|>                       OmniVision Technologies, Inc. USB Camera-B<IP_ADDRESS> at usb-0000:00:12.2-1, high
[19:20] <johnny|> I think it should be seeing a third one which should be the on board mic
[19:20] <wxl> not to ask a stupid question but what is the result of "arecord -l" johnny| ?
[19:21] <johnny|> **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
[19:21] <johnny|> card 1: CameraB404271 [USB Camera-B<IP_ADDRESS>], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[19:21] <johnny|>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:21] <johnny|>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:21] <wxl> yes that's unfortunate
[19:21] <johnny|> yeah
[19:22] <wxl> one sec
[19:22] <johnny|> The reason I need the on board audio mic input to work is because I'm hooking my piano keyboard up through it.
[19:24] <wxl> what card is it?
[19:25] <johnny|> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=3811
[19:25] <wxl> uh, fantastic
[19:25] <johnny|> Hang on I'll find it
[19:25] <johnny|> Its the motherboard audio
[19:25] <wxl> yes but not all motherboard audio is the same
[19:26] <wxl> try lspci
[19:26] <wxl> don't paste the output here
[19:26] <wxl> find the right line
[19:26] <johnny|> I know I only did that before because pastebin is unnecessary for 4 lines
[19:26] <johnny|> But this will be more than 4 lines
[19:26] <johnny|> so yeah
[19:27] <johnny|> http://pastebin.com/Tqw7j9wz
[19:28] <johnny|> I believe the card is called Azalia or something
[19:28] <johnny|> Least thats what it called it in the Bios when I enabled it
[19:28] <johnny|> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) I believe thats it
[19:29] <johnny|> My guess is that this is what is controlling the on board microphone (obviously)
[19:31] <wxl> there's only one AMD chip in the ALSA drievr matrix http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-interwave
[19:31] <wxl> not sure if that's the right one
[19:31] <dove_g> i get this error trying b oot up from USB
[19:31] <dove_g> "error no configuration file found"
[19:31] <dove_g> this link doesnt help, ny other suggestions
[19:31] <dove_g> http://askubuntu.com/questions/128160/trying-to-boot-from-usb
[19:32] <wxl> interwave is nowhere to be found in ubuntu repos tho
[19:33] <johnny|> oh
[19:33] <johnny|> At one point it used to see it. I think thats because I had it enabled when I installed LUbuntu
[19:33] <johnny|> This time it wasn't enabled in the bios
[19:34] <wxl> it is canonical certified http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:1002:4383-AUDIO/
[19:35] <johnny|> Should I try reinstalling LUbuntu? Problem is it will be a pain to reinstall.
[19:35] <wxl> if what i read is to be believe, you need snd-hda-intel
[19:35] <johnny|> ahh
[19:36] <wxl> now where to find it? grr
[19:36] <wxl> what ver? precise?
[19:37] <johnny|> yup
[19:38] <wxl> ah
[19:38] <wxl> modinfo snd-hda-intel is not null
[19:38] <wxl> which is to say you should already have the driver
[19:38] <wxl> modprobe snd-hda-intel
[19:38] <wxl> that SHOULD fix ya up
[19:39] <johnny|> shows no output
[19:39] <wxl> oh
[19:39] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ modprobe snd-hda-intel
[19:39] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$
[19:39] <wxl> sudo of course
[19:39] <johnny|> ahh ok
[19:39] <wxl> strange
[19:39] <johnny|> Still no output
[19:40] <wxl> modprobe | grep snd-hda-intel
[19:40] <wxl> is it there?
[19:41] <johnny|> That gives me the usage: modprobe message
[19:41] <wxl> sorry
[19:41] <wxl> modprobe -l | grep snd-hda-intel
[19:42] <johnny|> kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[19:42] <wxl> there it's installed
[19:42] <wxl> now try arecord -l
[19:42] <johnny|> yikes
[19:42] <johnny|> card 1: CameraB404271 [USB Camera-B<IP_ADDRESS>], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[19:42] <johnny|>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:42] <johnny|>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:43] <johnny|> Now its not even showing my NVIDIA
[19:43] <johnny|> Oh wait
[19:43] <wxl> ^ look up
[19:43] <wxl> same as before
[19:43] <johnny|> Nevermind the NVIDIA isn't a capture device
[19:43] <johnny|> Yeah
[19:44] <johnny|> lol derp sorry Yeah I need it to have two devices
[19:44] <wxl> for grins, what does aplay -l give you?
[19:44] <johnny|> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[19:44] <johnny|> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[19:44] <johnny|>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:44] <johnny|>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:45] <johnny|> Ok yeah so thats all right but with capture it should be two instead of one
[19:45] <wxl> didn't you have two playback devices before?
[19:45] <wxl> you did
[19:46] <wxl> of course it was your camera
[19:46] <wxl> which you may not need
[19:46] <johnny|> Yeah the Camera is only a Camera Mic
[19:46] <johnny|> So yeah it should only be a capture device
[19:47] <johnny|> So if it corrected that, I mean thats good to avoid conflicts I guess in any case
[19:47] <wxl> not really the issue
[19:47] <wxl> well this is strange because it should work
[19:47] <johnny|> Yeah I know
[19:47] <wxl> if i were you i'd put the module into /etc/modules and restart and see what happens
[19:48] <wxl> i dont' normally recommend restarts (modprobe makes this unnecessary) but i'm baffled as to why it's not working
[19:49] <johnny|> Hmm ok so in /etc/modules what am I putting in again?
[19:49] <johnny|> I am in nano and all it says is lp and rtc
[19:50] <johnny|> Am I putting in snd-hda-intel as a line?
[19:50] <wxl> yep
[19:50] <wxl> just that
[19:50] <wxl> last line
[19:50] <johnny|> ok cool
[19:51] <johnny|> ok gonna restart
[19:51] <johnny|> brb
[19:54] <johnny|> Tried it. Didn't work
[19:54] <wxl> fooey
[19:55] <wxl> try #ubuntustudio
[19:55] <johnny|> Unless there is something in the xorg file negating it
[19:56] <wxl> seriously i think that's the best advice i can give you
[19:56] <wxl> perhaps one of them is even familiar with the particular soundcard
[19:56] <johnny|> ok
[19:56] <johnny|> thanx
[19:56] <wxl> i know a few folks use lubuntu proper, too
[19:56] <wxl> at the very least they have an arguably better understandng of sound on *buntus in general
[19:57] <wxl> also #opensourcemusicians is very active and that may be something to consider too
[19:57] <wxl> sorry i couldn't be of more help
[19:57] <johnny|> Its ok
[19:57] <gordonjcp> johnny|: what's up?
[19:59] <johnny|> gordonjcp, I'm trying to get the microphone input on my On Board Motherboard to work.
[19:59] <johnny|> I went through some steps with wxl but we're both stumped as to what to do
[19:59] <gordonjcp> okay
[19:59] <gordonjcp> is sound basically working?
[20:00] <gordonjcp> and are you using pulseaudio, or alsa directly?
[20:01] <wxl> messing with me
[20:01] <johnny|> Yes sound is working and my Camera Mic works as a Mic. But I need the mic input on the motherboard working because my piano keyboard is hooked up to it. In essence if possible, I need two capture devices working
[20:01] <wxl> he's doing alsa from what i can gather
[20:01] <wxl> lspci finds the card
[20:01] <wxl> from what i can gather snd-hda-intel is the right drievr
[20:01] <wxl> which was not loaded because he had switched it off during install
[20:01] <gordonjcp> okay, two capture devices simultaneously is a world of pain
[20:02] <wxl> of course the other capture is a usb camera
[20:02] <wxl> can you disconnect that, johnny| ?
[20:02] <johnny|> ok
[20:02] <johnny|> done
[20:02] <gordonjcp> well, don't worry about that for now, what does aplay -l have to say?
[20:02] <wxl> he added the driver to /etc/modules and rebooted and had no better luck than just modprobing
[20:02] <gordonjcp> tbh it should just pick up the card automatically
[20:02] <johnny|> Now it says there are no capture hardware devices
[20:03] <gordonjcp> the thing to watch is that the card order is the same every time, which takes a bit of clever modprobeing
[20:03] <gordonjcp> o_O
[20:03] <johnny|> Now that I disconnected the camera
[20:03] <wxl> no surprise as the only one was the camera, and it's now disconnected
[20:03] <gordonjcp> pastebin the output of "arecord -l"
[20:03] <wxl> i think that's what he just gave you
[20:03] <johnny|> No need for pastebin lol its one line
[20:03] <johnny|> arecord -l
[20:03] <johnny|> **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
[20:04] <wxl> and aplay -l gives something doesn't it? the nvidia?
[20:04] <johnny|> yes
[20:04] <johnny|> exactly
[20:04] <gordonjcp> weird
[20:04] <wxl> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0
[20:05] <gordonjcp> okay, so that's an HDMI output
[20:05] <wxl> right
[20:05] <gordonjcp> which won't capture
[20:05] <johnny|> yup
[20:05] <johnny|> Though the Azalia I dunno should?
[20:05] <gordonjcp> ie. that's not your soundcard
[20:05] <wxl> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev  40)
[20:05] <wxl> that's from lspci
[20:05] <johnny|> Theres two soundcards
[20:05] <wxl> that's the one we want to get working
[20:05] <johnny|> The on board and the NVIDIA
[20:05] <johnny|> Unless the NVIDIA negated it when it went in
[20:06] <gordonjcp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1790878
[20:06] <gordonjcp> ^ is that of any help?
[20:07] <johnny|> hmm
[20:07] <johnny|> Ok to pastebin to show you the command it said to run
[20:08] <wxl> First remove that model=3stack entry from alsa-base.conf
[20:08] <gordonjcp> even if pulse had grabbed it, it should show up
[20:08] <gordonjcp> you're not running pulse are you?
[20:08] <johnny|> Yes actually I am.....
[20:08] <johnny|> Though that even picks everything up as well
[20:08] <johnny|> Cept for the one card
[20:08] <johnny|> I could uninstall pulseaudio
[20:09] <gordonjcp> brb, sorting something serious
[20:09] <johnny|> But I don't think it would help alsamixer see the device in question
[20:09] <johnny|> ok
[20:09] <johnny|> wxl I'll try what you said
[20:09] <wxl> it seems the other part of the recommendation is
[20:09] <wxl> wget http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh -O alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh
[20:10] <johnny|> http://pastebin.com/tkXCaTKR
[20:10] <johnny|> Thats another command I tried
[20:11] <johnny|> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=332796566f914774e233ed6645f3a1d52b851d49
[20:11] <johnny|> Please inform the person helping you.
[20:11] <gordonjcp> have you tried asking in #alsa?
[20:12] <johnny|> Not yet. I could now though.
[20:13] <wxl> seems that snd-hda-intel is having trouble polling
[20:14] <wxl> oh here you go
[20:14] <wxl> johnny|: this is probably what you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:16] <johnny|> Ahh so this has to go into alsa-base.conf?
[20:16] <johnny|> options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL
[20:16] <wxl> yes but you should know what model is
[20:16] <wxl> else
[20:16] <wxl> use model=auto
[20:16] <wxl> oh wait
[20:16] <wxl> not alsa-base.conf
[20:16] <wxl> /etc/modules
[20:17] <johnny|> ooh ok
[20:17] <johnny|> Yeah I didn't use the options command
[20:17] <wxl> oh wait wait
[20:17] <wxl> hold on
[20:17] <wxl> that might confuse things
[20:17] <wxl> yeah rm the line from /etc/modules
[20:17] <johnny|> ok
[20:17] <wxl> and then add it to the end of /etc/modules.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:17] <wxl> that way there's no conflicts
[20:17] <wxl> either way could work potentially
[20:18] <wxl> derp
[20:18] <wxl> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[20:18] <johnny|> Oh wow its already there
[20:19] <wxl> what is cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[20:19] <johnny|> #hdmi
[20:19] <johnny|> options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=0x102
[20:19] <johnny|> Odd though
[20:19] <johnny|> Because thats what enables my NVIDIA card to work
[20:20] <wxl> ^
[20:21] <johnny|> Ooh I got it!
[20:21] <johnny|> The Azalia and NVIDIA both use the same driver through Ubuntu.
[20:21] <johnny|> Ick
[20:21] <wxl> there you go
[20:22] <johnny|> But now this means somehow either the Azalia or the NVIDIA would have to manually use another sound driver that would work.
[20:22] <wxl> i would suspect then (not being a user of two sound cards) that you could modprobe snd-hda-intel twice with the right model= and you'd be set
[20:22] <wxl> gordonjcp: ^ think we got down to the bottom of it if you're familiar with using two simulataneous cards-- with the same driver
[20:23] <wxl> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[20:23] <wxl> ^ what does that produce johnny| ?
[20:23] <johnny|> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[20:23] <johnny|> Codec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP
[20:23] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$
[20:23] <wxl> oh gr
[20:23] <wxl> i wonder if this will work at all
[20:23] <wxl> probably not
[20:24] <johnny|> I may be better off getting the mic input on the connector to plug into USB
[20:24] <johnny|> It would use two connectors which is irritating but it may have a better chance of working I would think
[20:26] <johnny|> Then again I wouldn't know for sure without investing the money to do it.
[20:26] <gordonjcp> wxl: ah, yeah, that sounds familiar
[20:26] <wxl> cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec
[20:26] <wxl> that might do it
[20:26] <wxl> maybe.
[20:27] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec
[20:27] <johnny|> cat: /proc/asound/card1/codec*: No such file or directory
[20:27] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$
[20:27] <wxl> fooey
[20:27] <johnny|> Is it possible to change the driver for my NVIDIA to see if any others will work besides hda-snd-intel?
[20:28] <wxl> there may be a nvidia one
[20:28] <wxl> probably have to download and compile yourself
[20:28] <johnny|> Yeah thats what I was thinking
[20:28] <johnny|> Which in theory would free up the Azalia driver
[20:28] <johnny|> To work
[20:29] <wxl> you could try commenting out that line
[20:29] <wxl> (don't delete in case you want to return it to where it was)
[20:29] <wxl> and then add "options hda-snd-intel model=auto"
[20:29] <wxl> then sudo alsa force-reload
[20:29] <johnny|> ok
[20:29] <wxl> it may still default to the nvidia but it's worth a shot
[20:30] <johnny|> ok now lets see
[20:31] <johnny|> Yeah it did
[20:31] <johnny|> Hmm let me see something
[20:32] <johnny|> Hmm thats odd
[20:33] <johnny|> I commented out the line that I used initially to get the sound to work with the NVIDIA.
[20:33] <johnny|> and sound still works
[20:33] <wxl> you did the restart?
[20:33] <johnny|> Not yet. Let me try that.
[20:33] <wxl> er reload
[20:33] <johnny|> I did
[20:33] <johnny|> I reloaded
[20:33] <johnny|> and still got sound
[20:33] <wxl> strange indeed
[20:33] <johnny|> Its odd
[20:33] <wxl> #alsa, i guess
[20:34] <johnny|> Yeah I told them
[20:34] <johnny|> Only other thing I could think is to reinstall pulseaudio
[20:34] <johnny|> Or
[20:34] <johnny|> uninstall it and try aplay with a file
[20:34] <gordonjcp> kill pulse for now
[20:34] <johnny|> ok
[20:34] <wxl> i would think that's an intelligent idea
[20:35] <wxl> if you have a nonfuctional system in one server, it will probably carry over to the other ;)
[20:36] <johnny|> Ok used task manager to kill pulseaudio
[20:36] <johnny|> Now lets see
[20:36] <johnny|> I will use aplay to try to play an ogg file
[20:36] <johnny|> If it works then I know the NVIDIA card is still going
[20:37] <johnny|> ok yeah no sound
[20:37] <johnny|> So now I could look into aplay -l
[20:38] <wxl> it may be that commented out line
[20:38] <johnny|> Its listed
[20:38] <johnny|> But
[20:38] <johnny|> Wow
[20:38] <johnny|> yuck
[20:38] <johnny|> Let me get the pastebin of this
[20:38] <johnny|> This doesn't look good
[20:40] <johnny|> http://pastebin.com/L5901tbz
[20:40] <johnny|> I mean its there but the aplay output is messy
[20:40] <wxl> THAT'S GOOD!
[20:40] <wxl> hd output usually involves many channels
[20:40] <johnny|> Ahh but then how come I'm not getting any audio playing?
[20:41] <wxl> and you have capture devices now
[20:41] <johnny|> Yeah
[20:41] <wxl> the right ones
[20:41] <johnny|> But I guess I need to use a different line than that one I had
[20:41] <johnny|> To get the NVIDIA card to play sound
[20:41] <wxl> well it should play out the other one now, right?
[20:42] <johnny|> Lets see if I can record
[20:42] <johnny|> If I can I guess it means I can find another way to work with it
[20:42] <johnny|> Other than the command I did
[20:42] <johnny|> Ugh PC froze
[20:43] <johnny|> Let me restart
[20:52] <johnny|> Yeah the other devices show up however, I get no audio now through the NVIDIA card
[20:53] <johnny|> Mostly because it shows 4 spdifs now
[20:54] <johnny|> aplay shows it is playing but there is no sound
[20:56] <gordonjcp> aha, now you need to play with alsamixer
[20:56] <gordonjcp> and also fiddle about to ensure it's hitting the right set of channels
[20:56] <johnny|> The probe x 102 made the NVIDIA card work but disabled everything else
[20:58] <johnny|> The issue is that card 1 which is the NVIDIA is listed as device 3, device 7, device, 8 and device 9 when it should only be listed as device 7
[20:59] <wxl> hey
[20:59] <wxl> do this now:
[20:59] <johnny|> k
[20:59] <wxl> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[20:59] <johnny|> cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[20:59] <johnny|> Codec: Realtek ALC892
[20:59] <wxl> AH HA
[20:59] <wxl> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsCheck.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#High%20Definition%20Audio%20Codecs
[20:59] <wxl> that's what the ubuntu wiki recommends
[21:00] <wxl> download from realtek itself
[21:00] <wxl> that's for your motherboard
[21:00] <johnny|> ahh this way the motherboard driver doesn't interfere with the NVIDIA card
[21:00] <johnny|> I see thats why the NVIDIA card sound isn't working
[21:09] <johnny|> ok I'll restart now that it install
[21:09] <johnny|> installed
[21:09] <johnny|> and see if sound works on the NVIDIA
[21:12] <Elchzard> Under SEH Team
[21:14] <Resistance> Elchzard:  before I stab the freenode ops about your posting that same phrase in every other channel i've seen you in, mind *not* posting that everywhere?
[21:21] <johnny|> ok problem
[21:21] <wxl> ?
[21:21] <johnny|> When I do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737 my NVIDIA card gets sound but it gets rid of any other soundcards in the system
[21:22] <johnny|> However
[21:22] <johnny|> If I don't do that then the NVIDIA card doesn't play any sound
[21:22] <johnny|> But all devices show up
[21:23] <johnny|> This is even with the realtek driver installed
[21:23] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep CodecCodec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP
[21:23] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$
[21:24] <johnny|> We go back to there only being a Card 0 and no Card 1
[21:24] <wxl> hm
[21:24] <wxl> so with the realtek installed what is in alsa-base.conf and/or /etc/modules now?
[21:26] <johnny|> What is snd-pcsp?
[21:26] <johnny|> # Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard
[21:26] <johnny|> options snd-pcsp index=-2
[21:26] <wxl> assumedly the realtek
[21:26] <johnny|> I found that in alsa-base
[21:26] <johnny|> and that may actually be whats causing the issue but I don't know
[21:27] <wxl> nope that's the pc speaker
[21:27] <wxl> pc sp(eaker)
[21:27] <johnny|> ahh
[21:27] <wxl> there's no other line?
[21:27] <wxl> cuz how else can the driver be installed??
[21:28] <johnny|> I dunno it said it had installed. Let me show you the alsa-base.conf output in pastebin
[21:28] <johnny|> Maybe there is something I'm missing
[21:29] <johnny|> http://pastebin.com/4LxJJhhi
[21:29] <alix3c3> hello, just installed lubuntu 12.04 on alix 3c3 (pc engines), all was gone perfect, but at reboot I can only see the centered lubuntu logo, so I rebooted pressing shift, so with root access installed ssh-server and was gone, installed webmin and is ok, still connected now to my alix via webmin, but on screen still is present only lubuntu logo and there is no mouse pointer, can someone help me?
[21:29] <wxl> uh
[21:29] <wxl> it's like got nothing else in it
[21:30] <wxl> what's in /etc/modules?
[21:30] <alix3c3> if someone want to try to connect via webmin I can give an access
[21:30] <johnny|> Same thing as before lp and rtc
[21:30] <johnny|> Yet when I did the install script on the realtek
[21:30] <johnny|> It said it installed
[21:30] <wxl> can you pastebin that script?
[21:31] <johnny|> installing it again
[21:31] <johnny|> and I'll show you
[21:31] <johnny|> yeah
[21:32] <alix3c3> no help on alix? (amd geode)
[21:33] <johnny|> Seems to be fine and compiling
[21:34] <wxl> i don't want to see the output of the script but the script itself
[21:34] <johnny|> ok
[21:35] <johnny|> http://pastebin.com/uiZH6ER9
[21:36] <alix3c3> :-(
[21:36] <wxl> this remove folder business is the last thing you see?
[21:37] <johnny|> yup
[21:37] <wxl> give me alsa-driver-1.0.25/MAKEFILE
[21:38] <johnny|> http://pastebin.com/gs5tA3Y3
[21:40] <johnny|> This command BTW seems to be getting the NVIDIA sound working but making the other sound card not show up. I'm not exactly sure why however
[21:40] <johnny|> options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=0x102
[21:40] <johnny|> Maybe
[21:40] <johnny|> Instead of it being 0x102
[21:40] <johnny|> It should be 1x102
[21:40] <johnny|> Thats all I can think considering the NVIDIA card should probably be card 1
[21:40] <johnny|> Hmm I'll try it
[21:41] <johnny|> and restart
[21:42] <alix3c3> hello, just installed lubuntu 12.04 on alix 3c3 (pc engines), all was gone perfect, but at reboot I can only see the centered lubuntu logo, so I rebooted pressing shift, so with root access installed ssh-server and was gone, installed webmin and is ok, still connected now to my alix via webmin, but on screen still is present only lubuntu logo and there is no mouse pointer, can someone help me?
[21:46] <alix3c3> tnx for help!
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> sudo start lightdm ?
[21:52] <MrChrisDruif> I should check if someone is still in channel <_<"
[21:54] <johnny|> How do I find out what the realtek is using? I know the NVIDIA is using snd-hda-intel
[21:54] <johnny|> Because I think I may have the solution
[21:55] <johnny|> # Keep snd-realtek-whatever it is from being loaded as first soundcard
[21:55] <johnny|> options snd-realtek-whatever it is index=-2
[21:56] <johnny|> I think thats what I need
[21:56] <johnny|> Because both soundcards can't be loaded as first
[21:56] <wxl> there you go
[21:56] <johnny|> and I think both are trying to be
[21:56] <wxl> now which is snd-realtek-whatever? :)
[21:56] <wxl> i'm not finding it easy
[21:56] <johnny|> Right lol
[21:56] <johnny|> I know
[21:56] <johnny|> The only other solution is to load the NVIDIA as soundcard 1
[21:57] <johnny|> and hope it works that way
[21:57] <wxl> that might work
[21:57] <johnny|> Yeah hmm I'll give it a go
[21:57] <wxl> it it doesn't work pastebin me the configure script johnny|
[21:58] <johnny|> ok sure
[21:58] <johnny|> ok here goes nothing
[22:08] <johnny|> Yeah it has to do with the particular command
[22:08] <johnny|> Either way using a probemask to get the audio working will somehow get rid of the other soundcard
[22:08] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[22:08] <johnny|> cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec*: No such file or directory
[22:08] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ cat /proc/asound/card1/codec* | grep Codec
[22:08] <johnny|> Codec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP
[22:11] <SAKKED> is that Lubuntu software center at default repository yet?
[22:11] <johnny|> Here is the issue
[22:11] <johnny|> Without the probemask command you get this
[22:12] <Unit193> SAKKED: Yep.
[22:12] <johnny|> http://pastebin.com/LcDPGGK0
[22:12] <Unit193> !info lubuntu-software-center
[22:12] <johnny|> Codec: Nvidia GPU 15 HDMI/DP appears 4 times
[22:12] <johnny|> and it shouldn't
[22:13] <johnny|> Using the probemask command in a file makes it appear once but also gets rid of the first soundcard.
[22:13] <johnny|> So there has to be another way to get the NVIDIA codec to stop cloning itself
[22:14] <SAKKED> Unit193: few months ago i had to install that from some other ppa
[22:15] <Unit193> Yes, but that's because you were on 11.10, now it's in 12.04
[22:15] <SAKKED> ok
[22:18] <johnny|> No output on this and this is what it says has to use the NVIDIA card
[22:18] <johnny|> Not snd-hda-intel
[22:18] <johnny|> sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi
[22:18] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$ sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi
[22:18] <johnny|> johnny@johnny-System-Product-Name:~$
[22:24] <johnny|> Well I established it works
[22:24] <johnny|> Though now to go through these steps
[22:24] <johnny|> I'm following directions from NVIDIA instead of that forum post
[22:28] <johnny|> What if sound plays in alsa mixer as plughw but not hw?
[23:38] <johnny|> ok got it to recognize the two soundcards and also play audio through the NVIDIA. Now I'm having trouble getting it to record.
[23:38] <johnny|> and it gives me a bunch of options
[23:39] <johnny|> and none worked


[15:32] <chillysurfer> hello! yesterday i created a ppa on launchpad and then i subsequently pushed a .changes file to it. dput reported success, but looking this morning it doesn't seem like the package "went" to my ppa
[15:32] <chillysurfer> is there any way to troubleshoot this?
[16:36] <cjwatson> chillysurfer: Wasn't that the one we discussed yesterday, determined to have been a keyserver failure, and told you you should reupload?
[16:37] <cjwatson> chillysurfer: Or was this a subsequent failure?
[16:37] <chillysurfer> subsequent failure
[16:37] <chillysurfer> i tried again this morning (maybe 1 hour ago?)
[16:37] <cjwatson> chillysurfer: I see a couple of rejections that our logs say were emailed to you - check your spam folders and such?
[16:37] <chillysurfer> ahhhhhhh
[16:37] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: Source/binary (i.e. mixed) uploads are not allowed
[16:38] <cjwatson> Indeed
[16:38] <cjwatson> You need to use debuild -S or similar
[16:38] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: so the problem is rooted in that i tried to push a .deb _and_ a .orig.tar.gz?
[16:39] <cjwatson> Well, that you tried to push a .deb at all
[16:39] <chillysurfer> oh i see
[16:39] <cjwatson> Launchpad does not accept and will never accept binary uploads of .debs
[16:39] <cjwatson> Only source uploads
[16:40] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: so i should modify my .changes file to remove the deb from the Files list before signing it and dput'ing it?
[16:40] <chillysurfer> (sorry for the basic questions)
[16:40] <cjwatson> You should just use the -S option to the tool you're using to build it in the first place
[16:40] <cjwatson> It is possible to excise it from the .changes file by hand but I wouldn't recommend it
[16:41] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: ok cool. i'll figure that out. the cloud-init project has a wrapper script (packages/bddeb) that "does it all"
[16:41] <cjwatson> What tool are you using to build the upload?
[16:41] <cjwatson> Ah
[16:41] <cjwatson> That sounds like a script to do a local test build, not one intended for building uploads to PPAs
[16:41] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: yeah that sounds about right
[16:41] <chillysurfer> i'll just make a debuild call directly
[16:42] <cjwatson> DEBUILD_ARGS = ["-S", "-d"]
[16:42] <cjwatson> Hm, it does seem to at least be trying
[16:42] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: oh nice
[16:42] <chillysurfer> i'll give that a shot too
[16:42] <cjwatson> Ah, you have to pass -S to packages/bddeb
[16:42] <cjwatson> It accepts it and passes it through
[16:42] <chillysurfer> ahhhhhhhh
[16:43] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: nice!
[16:43]  * chillysurfer is trying that now
[16:43] <cjwatson> I don't know how much it's worth it, but if it fits your workflow, sure
[16:43] <cjwatson> Make sure you end up with a *_source.changes
[16:43] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: oh that's the .changes file to dput?
[16:43] <cjwatson> Yep
[16:43] <chillysurfer> cjwatson: i guess there's no benefit to using this wrapper script then instead just calling debuild though..
[16:46] <cjwatson> Not sure, I see it's doing some other stuff with preparing the tree and working out a version number and such
[16:46] <cjwatson> Haven't played human python interpreter for long enough to work out how much of it is a no-op :-)
[16:50] <Odd_Bloke> chillysurfer: We can take this conversation back to #cloud-init, but the TL;DR is that you will want to use bddeb because we only ship debian file _templates_ in upstream cloud-init; there isn't a debian/ directory for you to use the normal Debian tools on.
[16:51] <Odd_Bloke> (So bddeb constructs a temporary tree and build in there for you.)
[16:51] <Odd_Bloke> *builds
[16:51] <chillysurfer> Odd_Bloke: ahhh ok in that case i'll just pass -S to bddeb then!
[16:56] <chillysurfer> ahhh it's in my ppa!! what a great feeling. thanks so much cjwatson and Odd_Bloke!!
[16:56] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[16:59] <cjwatson> Excellent


[01:55] <cmaloney> Cosmos
[01:55] <rick_h_> party
[01:55] <cmaloney> Commercials suck
[01:55] <rick_h_> I'll wait for netflix I guess
[01:56] <cmaloney> yeah, we will likjely get thge dvd
[02:00] <jrwren> it was good.
[03:10] <derekv> i hope its on netflix
[03:10] <derekv> or amazon will do
[12:46] <cmaloney> good morning
[12:46] <rick_h_> morning
[12:47] <Klaudioh> good morning
[12:57] <mrgoodcat> morning
[13:11] <cmaloney> Just had my greatest fear at the library realized
[13:11] <cmaloney> (other than someone crazy engaging me in conversation)
[13:12] <cmaloney> returned something and they didn't credit my account with the return
[13:12] <cmaloney> dun dun DUUUUUUN
[13:16] <rick_h_> ruhroh
[13:18] <brousch> The what?
[13:18] <rick_h_> cmaloney: you will pay for that item!
[13:18] <rick_h_> at 3x market rate
[13:21] <cmaloney> Or I'll ask them to check their shelves. :)
[13:21] <cmaloney> (simple. :) )
[13:23] <rick_h_> jcastro: happy b-day. You coming to MUG tomorrow?
[13:27] <cmaloney> ^^
[13:27] <jcastro> rick_h_, maybe
[13:28] <jcastro> I am trying to make it through Monday first
[13:28] <jcastro> man I am so behind
[13:28] <rick_h_> jcastro: ouch ok. Well I've got a b-day gift in my backpack if you come out :)
[13:31] <cmaloney> There is no Monday-problem that can't be taken out behind the shed and shot.
[13:31] <cmaloney> (just sayin')
[13:55] <DrDaemonEye> cmaloney: the sun is heading to earth and will impact on a Monday.
[13:59] <cmaloney> DrDaemonEye: Not my problem. :)
[13:59] <DrDaemonEye> :)
[16:55] <cmaloney> Dammit. B&N in Downtown Royal Oak is shutting.
[16:59] <brousch> Books are dead! Long live Amazon!
[17:00] <cmaloney> bah
[17:01] <rick_h_> heh, we went in there the other day.  I get all my metal from there.
[17:03] <cmaloney> orly?
[17:03] <cmaloney> http://soma.fm amirite?
[17:04] <rick_h_> we did get some travel material while there
[17:04] <rick_h_> but it was a bunch of meh
[17:04] <greg-g> cmaloney: what's wrong with soma?!
[17:04] <cmaloney> greg-g: Nothing. I'm just messing with brousch
[17:04] <greg-g> :)
[17:04] <brousch> Soma is great for when you want to fall asleep
[17:05] <cmaloney> Or when you want to wake up to defcon radio
[17:05] <greg-g> :)
[17:05] <greg-g> I love defcon radio
[17:05] <cmaloney> It's one of my favorites on my Squeezebox
[17:06] <cmaloney> 1) DefCon. 2) Metal Injection 3) Delicious Agony 4) (Don't remember offhand, but I think it's Goth Radio) 5) Underground 80s 6) WRCJFM
[17:07] <cmaloney> I should just set 4) to TWiT.
[17:29] <jrwren> that is a giant storefront in royal oak. i wonder what will replace it.
[17:30] <cmaloney> jrwren: A consulting company
[17:30] <rick_h_> jrwren: office space it sounds like
[17:30] <cmaloney> they're getting a sweetheart deal
[17:30] <rick_h_> well sounds like B&N had a sweet deal 50% off?
[17:31] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's unfortunate that a lot of the landlords in Royal Oak are starting to raise rents
[17:32] <cmaloney> Starting to see more empty storefronts downtown
[17:32] <cmaloney> Will be interesting to see how many of them remain so
[17:38] <brousch> parking lot
[17:42] <jrwren> it seemed pretty rented out when I was there last night.
[17:42] <jrwren> Yes, I made my way into oakland county.
[17:42] <jrwren> it was difficult
[17:43] <cmaloney> jrwren: ah HAH!
[17:45] <cmaloney> What made it difficult? Not wanting to leave once you got there? :)
[17:45] <rick_h_> cmaloney: is crazy
[17:46] <cmaloney> ?
[17:46] <jrwren> you know I dislike oakland county, mostly the traffic.  I've got a fresh digital ocean box taht I've just not had time to setup to log
[17:50] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: sry i had to
[17:50] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: How do you know he wasn't also walking a gate across the street. ;)
[17:50] <mrgoodcat> i guess i don't
[17:51] <mrgoodcat> it was a rash assumption on my part
[17:51] <cmaloney> leashes are so cruel. That's why I walk my dog with a portable gate.
[17:52] <mrgoodcat> a portable pen?
[17:52] <cmaloney> fence
[17:52] <cmaloney> It's 10 feet around me to comply with leash laws.
[17:53]  * cmaloney is afraid to go online to see if there really is such a thing
[18:00] <jrwren> electric and it kinda makes sense.
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> i have a portable electric fence for my dog
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> can set range from 10-50 feet
[18:06] <jrwren> does it work well?
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> it worked great
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> for my old dog
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> my current dog doesn't need it
[18:07] <mrgoodcat> the way it worked was a little different than a regular electric fence though. instead of shocking when she "passed through" the fence, it acts more like a maximum distance. It shocks until she comes back
[18:07] <mrgoodcat> or some time limit passed
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: just found kind of a cool tool for getting an overview of pull requests on hacker news https://prs.paas.allizom.org/bookieio/bookie
[19:07] <brousch> Who is making pull requests on Hacker News?
[19:11] <mrgoodcat> nobody
[19:11] <mrgoodcat> i found it on hacker news
[19:12] <mrgoodcat> i found, on hacker news, a tool
[19:12] <cmaloney> who's a tool on Hacker News?
[19:12] <brousch> That's understandable. Hacker News is full of tools
[19:12] <waf> cmaloney: the hacker. try to keep up.
[19:13] <cmaloney> wWhat's up?
[19:13]  * cmaloney can't keep up.
[19:13] <brousch> cmaloney: They make drugs for that
[19:13] <waf> brousch++
[19:13] <cmaloney> brousch: Hook a brother up
[19:19] <brousch> cmaloney: Already did. Check your spam folder
[19:20] <cmaloney> kthxbai
[19:56] <brousch> Damn I'm old
[19:57] <mrgoodcat> define old
[19:57] <brousch> These GSoC students could be my kids
[19:57] <mrgoodcat> lol
[19:58] <brousch> They were born after I graduated high school
[19:59] <mrgoodcat> my cousin's nephew graduated high school before he did
[20:00] <cmaloney> brousch: *cough*
[20:00] <brousch> cmaloney: They could be your grandkids!
[20:00] <cmaloney> They are. :)
[20:01] <cmaloney> every last one of 'em. :)
[20:01] <jrwren> my cousin's nephew is 87yrs old :p
[20:01] <brousch> wat?
[20:01] <jrwren> i'm j/k
[20:01] <mrgoodcat> i was just trying to figure out that math
[20:01] <cmaloney> jrwren: I'm sure somewhere in West Virginia that's common place.
[20:02] <cmaloney> Something about non-euclidian family trees and what-not.
[20:04] <brousch> No, just an old man marrying and impregnating a young woman
[20:05] <cmaloney> You make it sound so formal
[20:05] <cmaloney> business-like
[20:06] <brousch> Probably is at that age
[20:06] <cmaloney> It's all fun and games until the lawyers want a cut.
[20:07] <cmaloney> and a ringside seat
[20:07] <cmaloney> (notary public)
[20:10] <jrwren> my daddy uncle says its OK, so it is.
[20:11] <greg-g> brousch++ "Probably is at that age"
[20:11] <jrwren> and no, a daddy uncle is not my dad's uncle. :)
[20:23] <cmaloney> Wow. I just did a search on Twitter for "Core Conversation"
[20:23] <cmaloney> I suddenly feel dirty all over and a little sick.
[20:23] <cmaloney> like accidentally touching the floor of a public restroom with my hand.
[20:27] <brousch> What if you slipped and fell and touched it with your face and lips?
[20:27] <cmaloney> brousch: Is there fire nearby?
[20:28] <brousch> No. And the sinks are broken
[20:29] <greg-g> my car key will do
[20:29] <greg-g> sepuku
[20:29] <cmaloney> greg-g: ^^
[20:30] <brousch> You rode your bike
[20:30] <greg-g> then it even has a sharper key!
[20:30] <cmaloney> then I'll strangle myself with my bike lock
[20:31] <brousch> You didn't lock your bike since you were just going in for a second.  I can't be long for this world in any kind of serious traffic.
[20:32] <cmaloney> brousch: Also: this isn't Grand Rapids.  Sometimes it's good we're all remote *grumble*
[22:48] <jrwren> bwahahahahaha
[22:49] <jrwren> teamwork is hard. I passed him the ball, he had a wide open shot but he dribbled around for a few seconds and threw up a brick in front of a defender.
[22:49] <jrwren> #sportsball!