[00:00] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: Hey Blue. I don't suppose you know of any existing issues with Rekong crashing?
[00:35] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2, no afraid not
[01:56] <Macer> i am having problems with my tyan mboard going to sleep
[01:56] <Macer> i want it to be able to suspend and it doesn't seem to want to do so
[01:57] <Macer> not only that but sometimes shutting it down causes a reboot
[01:57] <Macer> any ideas?
[03:06] <[Relic]> does anyone else get a little squiggle thing in the bottom right hand corner on flash apps?
[03:37] <nephtes> Hello, requesting help setting up internet connection sharing with kubuntu 11.10
[03:37] <nephtes> I've done this directly with iptables in the past but hoping to save some hassle this time
[03:38] <nephtes> kubuntu box connects to rounter on wlan0 and a second machine via crossover cable on eth0
[03:39] <nephtes> I've used System Settings/Network Connections to set the "Method" under "IPv4" address to "Shared" on eth0
[03:39] <nephtes> But as a result ifconfig shows no IPv4 address assigned to the interface, only IPv6
[03:40] <nephtes> Any hints much appreciated, thanks
[04:26] <brhad56> Ever since upgrading to kubuntu 11.10, when i come back to wake up my computer, my internet doesn't work anymore until i reboot.  Help?
[04:28] <brhad56> i am on wired connection
[05:51] <ubuntu> lupe
[06:14] <areichman> hello. I'm having some problems with my dvd drive. Any disc I put in doesn't show up in KDE
[06:14] <areichman> the drive shows up in lshw and in k3b but with the status nodisc
[06:15] <areichman> I just moved it to a different SATA port (I moved it because it had already stopped working, not the other way around) but the problem is the same
[06:25] <mr-rich> areichman: Sounds like the drive went south ...
[06:25] <areichman> mr-rich: would it still show up in lshw if the drive was bad?
[06:26] <areichman> It has power (open and closes and spins) but no disc is ever recognized
[06:26] <mr-rich> areichman: It could .... if the read head went bad, the drive would still be seen ...
[06:26] <mr-rich> but not accessed ...
[06:27] <areichman> and is there any way to replace the read head?
[06:27] <mr-rich> better off replacing the whole drive ... less expensive, too ...
[06:28] <areichman> ack
[06:28] <areichman> not what I wanted to hear
[06:28] <mr-rich> You could try a head cleaner ... a dvd with tiny brushes on it
[06:29] <mr-rich> bed time ...
[06:30] <areichman> thanks for your help
[06:30] <areichman> good night
[09:03] <xuser1> im searching for the best linux distribution for me > my system is > 1.5 ghz cpu , nvidia v.card 256 mb . 1 gb ram ; can you recomend me something?
[09:04] <xuser1> :D
[09:04] <xuser1> im using linuxmint 10 now
[09:04] <xuser1> but in dont like gnome 3
[09:05] <xuser1> is kde better?
[09:09] <xuser1> is kde better?
[09:09] <xuser1> than gnome3
[09:09] <xuser1> ?
[09:10] <earlten_> it's all opinion
[09:11] <earlten_> each has pros and each has cons
[09:11] <earlten_> all you can do is try for yourself and see
[09:11] <xuser1> but , does kde consume more resources than g 3?
[09:12] <xuser1> i tryed kde
[09:12] <xuser1> and i dont like it
[09:14] <xuser1> is fedora faster than ubuntu?
[09:14] <xuser1> :-/
[10:03] <sudy> bonjour a tous
[11:07] <genoobie> hey all
[11:07] <genoobie> I was updating pkgs
[11:07] <genoobie> 270 and the machine seems to be stuck
[11:07] <genoobie> any tips?
[11:16] <genoobie> there's some weird behavior in the kbuntu
[11:18] <linxuser> genoobie: good to know its not just me (or not good but good to know)
[11:18] <linxuser> *glad to know?
[11:20] <genoobie> considering a reinstall
[11:21] <genoobie> I went to add a new user I got a gray blank screen
[11:21] <genoobie> There were some problems on the isntall
[11:21] <linxuser> genoobie: do you have a separate /home partition?
[11:22] <genoobie> well when I partitioned the drive I installed under "/"
[11:22] <genoobie> and I had a 2gb swap
[11:22] <genoobie> should I have created more partitions?
[11:23] <linxuser> after several installs I opted to make a /, swap, and /home cause
[11:23] <linxuser> on reinstall /home doesn't need to be reformatted
[11:23] <genoobie> how big was /home
[11:24] <linxuser> you get to keep all personal files. On mine I have 500 GB total so I made my
[11:24] <linxuser> my /home 350 GB
[11:24] <genoobie> I've got 120GB
[11:24] <genoobie> but I store everything on my NAS box
[11:25] <linxuser> I also have unused 60 GB for dual Windows 7 that I hardly ever use
[11:25] <linxuser> Oh, on your NAS is OK
[11:26] <linxuser> I've more partitions I haven't mentioned 5 to 10 GB each
[11:27] <genoobie> okay, so I want two users
[11:27] <linxuser> separate / for different linux installs
[11:27] <genoobie> and I've got a 40GB part for winxp
[11:27] <genoobie> and I wanted to use another 40gb for kubuntu
[11:27] <linxuser> my other linux installs share the same /home via symlinks
[11:28] <genoobie> the live version seemed to work better than the install
[11:28] <linxuser> it happens
[11:29] <linxuser> I also keep symlinks from /var/cache/apt to archive on the same /home partition so it
[11:30] <genoobie> gotcha
[11:30] <linxuser> doesn't have to redownload updates its done before
[11:31] <linxuser> I'm just throwing out ideas I've been playing with
[11:32] <genoobie> as soon as the install is done, and the cd is ejected
[11:32] <genoobie> do I have to put that cd back in after the grub loads for post-install?
[11:32] <genoobie> I wonder if I would have been better off with the amd64 install
[11:33] <franta> Hi guys! Anyone experiences the kde theme go black on every login except for the first one on 10.04 using kdm ?
[11:33] <franta> I think it's a problem in kdm since when I use gdm it works fine ...
[11:33] <linxuser> I didn't notice any performance improvement with amd64 so I reverted to i386
[11:34] <genoobie> linxuser, and you are using a amd chip?
[11:34] <linxuser> no sorry its an intel 64
[11:35] <linxuser> amd64 install on it
[11:35] <genoobie> if you had an amd64 would you use the i386 or the amd64
[11:36] <linxuser> never had a genuine amd64 so I don't know
[11:36] <genoobie> hrm
[11:36] <linxuser> knowing me I'd probably have tried
[11:37] <genoobie> I ran into a problem when I updated the computer
[11:37] <genoobie> it crashed and then flaked out
[11:37] <genoobie> so I am reinstalling with hopefully better luck
[11:37] <linxuser> hense the reason I discovered the /home thing
[11:37] <genoobie> oh so you ran into the same problem
[11:38] <genoobie> I wonder if I should try 10.04
[11:38] <linxuser> my problems were back in 2009/2010 - best of luck
[11:38] <genoobie> tx
[11:39] <genoobie> this install seems to be going more smoothly
[11:39] <linxuser> did you see the thing about kdm working?
[11:39] <genoobie> ?
[11:39] <linxuser> franta posted it back at 05:33
[11:40] <genoobie> yep I saw that
[11:41] <genoobie> well, dunno what to make of it.  I know this time the computer appears to be downloading more stuff
[11:41] <linxuser> I've been using kubuntu 10.04 w/kde3 trinity the last year so I'm all screwed up
[11:41] <genoobie> heh
[11:42] <genoobie> hopefully 11.04 is "fixed
[11:42] <genoobie> :)
[11:43] <linxuser> hopefully, I don't recomend trinity cause I got a bug up this last week
[11:43] <genoobie> I like the idea
[11:43] <genoobie> very "shiny" os
[11:43] <genoobie> stupid language packs
[11:43] <linxuser> decided to update to the new tde and had to reinstall 5 times finally reverting to kde3 trinity
[11:44] <genoobie> almost makes you want to use a bought OS
[11:44] <linxuser> yeah, the language pack :/
[11:44] <franta> linxuser: I wasn't here at 05:33  ...
[11:44] <linxuser> *packs
[11:44] <genoobie> franta, they means 6:33
[11:44] <genoobie> s/means/mean
[11:45] <linxuser> franta: sorry I must be in different TZ
[11:45] <franta> oh:)
[11:45] <franta> so what's the time now ?
[11:45] <genoobie> I wonder if I should just go ubuntu
[11:45] <genoobie> 6:45 eastern
[11:45] <franta> ok
[11:45] <linxuser> or is this GMT? its not my time
[11:46] <linxuser> 5:46 Central
[11:46] <franta> oooh you were referencing my post :) Now I get it ... sorry :)
[11:47] <linxuser> that is my time. its dark here, I forgot
[11:47] <genoobie> was looking for a distro that was faster than xp
[11:47] <genoobie> so far it's a tough find
[11:47] <linxuser> once its installed and running good I believe it is faster
[11:48] <genoobie> I dunno, there is probably some tweaking that needs to be done
[11:48] <genoobie> the big advantage is that it won't need much maintenance in the future
[11:48] <genoobie> or rather as much maintenance as xp
[11:48] <linxuser> theres definately that I don't update my windoze
[11:49] <genoobie> and it is far less prone to get sick
[11:49] <genoobie> with virii and crud
[11:50] <linxuser> yeah, mine hasn't got sick cept when I mess it up
[11:51] <genoobie> and this machine was equipped with vista. the xp downgrade was a bear
[11:51] <genoobie> the install of kubuntu was far easier
[11:51] <linxuser> I wasn
[11:52] <linxuser> I wasn't able to downgrade mine cause manufacturer didn't support xp for this machine
[11:52] <genoobie> likewise I had to go hunting for xp drivers
[11:52] <genoobie> tricky
[11:52] <genoobie> especially cause the OS is like 11 years old
[11:53] <linxuser> came with vista but I was in school in 09 so got free access to legal win7
[11:53] <genoobie> nice
[11:53] <genoobie> vista sucks
[11:53] <linxuser> ditto
[11:53] <genoobie> was thinking of registering for a class and then dropping it
[11:53] <genoobie> after I picked up a win7
[11:54] <genoobie> but then I figured I'd like to make a clean break with windows
[11:54] <linxuser> don't know if that'd work, but it might. I'd go with CISCO
[11:54] <genoobie> so I've been searching for a nice distro
[11:54] <genoobie> ??
[11:54] <genoobie> register for a cisco class?
[11:55] <linxuser> I'm running kbuntu 8.04, ubuntu-studio 9.10 - 10.04, and this trinity kbunt 10.04
[11:55] <genoobie> what's ubuntu studio?
[11:55] <genoobie> music related?
[11:56] <linxuser> yeah, I was going for cisco and was talked into full class load for student loan
[11:56] <genoobie> oh hah
[11:56] <linxuser> studio multimedia related
[11:56] <genoobie> gotcha
[11:56] <genoobie> ITT?
[11:57] <genoobie> they're good at pushing the hard sell
[11:57] <linxuser> I quit after 1 semester and paid off the loan. I could've took cisco 1,2,3, and 4 for less
[11:58] <linxuser> It was state comm tech college
[11:58] <genoobie> once upon a time I thought I watned to write device drivers
[11:59] <linxuser> I thought I'd be good at programming in '73 could've gotten into control data's school back then
[11:59] <genoobie> so do you program now?
[12:00] <linxuser> the days of basic, fortran, cobol. Now no, I played with C and C++ but gave it up
[12:01] <genoobie> heh, that's going back a ways.
[12:01] <genoobie> I entered into it when basic pascal and some fortran was around
[12:01] <genoobie> C was exploding
[12:01] <linxuser> weird it seems just a while back.
[12:01] <genoobie> :)
[12:01] <linxuser> I'm for sure getting old
[12:02] <genoobie> why do you like kubuntu over ubuntu?
[12:02] <linxuser> don't really know
[12:02] <genoobie> It's got a nice look to it
[12:03] <linxuser> I first tried kubuntu 6.06 and had it installed for 1 and 1/2 years before I did much
[12:03] <genoobie> my hope is to ween the family off of windows
[12:04] <linxuser> yeah, but unfortunately I've found the need to have it around to get online if linux fails for some reason
[12:04] <genoobie> ugh this installation seems stalled
[12:04] <linxuser> stalled where?
[12:05] <genoobie> "restoring previously installed packages"
[12:05] <linxuser> I thought you were doing fresh reinstall
[12:05] <genoobie> yes
[12:05] <genoobie> I was
[12:05] <genoobie> so I don't even know what that means...
[12:06] <genoobie> b/c I deleted the partition
[12:06] <genoobie> and all that...
[12:06] <linxuser> can you see it downloading or something and hd light activity
[12:06] <genoobie> yeah there's some activity periodically
[12:07] <linxuser> be patient
[12:07] <genoobie> :)
[12:07] <linxuser> if it needs some stuff from the server it can seem lifeless for a bit
[12:08] <genoobie> I suppose
[12:08] <linxuser> I hate to waste time my .02
[12:08] <genoobie> I just don't want the screen to go black on account of acpi stuff and have it ruin something in the install
[12:09] <genoobie> otherwise I'd go to bed
[12:09] <linxuser> keyboard or mouse activity keeps screen from blanking
[12:10] <genoobie> right but then I have to stand here...
[12:10] <linxuser> they enable screen saver by default
[12:10] <linxuser> do you know about the alternate ttys?
[12:10] <genoobie> sort of
[12:11] <genoobie> but like I said, I don't want to interrupt it
[12:11] <linxuser> ctrl+alt+f1 ...f2 , etc?
[12:11] <genoobie> so I just move the mouse every now and then
[12:12] <linxuser> yeah, the only program I know in terminal to monitor network is idtop but its not
[12:12] <linxuser> installed by default
[12:12] <linxuser> *iftop
[12:13] <genoobie> do you use "owncloud" ?
[12:13] <linxuser> owncloud not familiar
[12:13] <linxuser> checking
[12:14] <genoobie> meh, some kind of cloud thing they are touting
[12:14] <linxuser> not a program in my synaptics manager
[12:14] <genoobie> man, this is dragging...
[12:14] <linxuser> do you see network indication?
[12:14] <genoobie> I'm afraid the CPU is going to overheat and shutdown
[12:15] <genoobie> the hdd light is flickering
[12:15] <linxuser> wifi or ethernet?
[12:15] <genoobie> network has stopped
[12:15] <genoobie> ether
[12:16] <linxuser> if light on eth is not blinking its not communicating. is hd still working?
[12:16] <genoobie> yeah, I mean it's working, the cd spins up every now and then
[12:16] <genoobie> it's doing something...
[12:16] <linxuser> that usually a good thing
[12:17] <genoobie> okay finally..
[12:17] <genoobie> this time the install appears complete compared to last tiem
[12:17] <genoobie> s/tiem/time
[12:17] <genoobie> I sure as heck hope this works...
[12:18] <linxuser> install from cd, or usb?
[12:18] <genoobie> cd
[12:18] <linxuser> does it spin up occasionally?
[12:19] <genoobie> ugh, the bootloader had "previous linux versions"
[12:19] <genoobie> okay seems better
[12:19] <linxuser> is it still installing bootloader?
[12:20] <linxuser> last thing my install did
[12:20] <genoobie> ugugugug
[12:20] <genoobie> it used "previous installs" for stuff
[12:20] <linxuser> o of
[12:20] <genoobie> damnit
[12:20] <genoobie> I'm going to bed
[12:20] <genoobie> this sucks
[12:20] <genoobie> nice chatting, but I'm po'ed
[12:21] <genoobie> nite
[12:21] <linxuser> well good try
[12:21] <linxuser> nite
[12:22] <linxuser> hadn't noticed its am
[12:22] <linxuser> bummer
[12:25] <MMlosh> Hi!  Is it still possible to get gnome-keyring unlocked on login in kubuntu 11.10?  All my tries have failed (for this release, older releases are fine)
[12:25] <linxuser> genoobie: if you're still up, next time do install without net connected
[12:32] <linxuser> MMlosh: I've not ventured beyond 10.04 ... can't help  ... google found nothing for me
[12:32] <MMlosh> linxuser, that suggests that I tried searching first.. thanks for confirmation
[12:33] <linxuser> MMlosh: figured you had but I tried too. hey someone out there might know
[12:37] <linxuser> after reading about it I'm glad I stayed behind
[12:37] <linxuser> sheesh! I'm gettin old
[13:11] <tatie> refreshing software list - stuck at 95%
[13:11] <tatie> can't install anything because of that it seems. what would be a solution?
[13:16] <LusH> moin
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:51] <linxuser> tatie in maybe a source is offline. if you can tell what server its stuck on
[13:52] <linxuser> you might try ping -c 1 THAT_SERVER'S_ADDRESS to see if its down.
[13:53] <linxuser> tatiefrom a terminal
[13:54] <linxuser> ping -c 1 THAT_SERVER'S_ADDRESS
[13:56] <linxuser> didn't see [07:20] <-- tatie has left
[14:05] <b-real> alguien puede ayudarme con la conexion wifi?
[14:09] <Peace-> b-real: english
[14:10] <linxuser> b-real: lo siento, yo no sé español tampoco.
[14:11] <TImewarper> where can i get the shred utility from?
[14:11] <b-real> someone can help me cuz i have some troubles  with  the wifi connection
[14:13] <b-real> linxuser pero si lo escribes bien eh?? ;)
[14:13] <Peace-> b-real: iwconfig in konsole
[14:13] <Peace-> !pate | b-real
[14:13] <b-real> oks
[14:13] <Peace-> !paste | b-real
[14:14] <linxuser> TImewarper: my synaptics reports its part of coreutils
[14:15] <TImewarper> linxuser, ok and how about the frandom
[14:15] <TImewarper> another random generator tool
[14:15] <TImewarper> in what package is that?
[14:16] <b-real> peace accep a priv?ateconve
[14:16] <linxuser> TImewarper: not showing in my install
[14:17] <TImewarper> linxuser, http://sourceforge.net/projects/frandom/
[14:17] <TImewarper> any idea how to install that?
[14:18] <b-real> pace http://paste.ubuntu.com/751430/
[14:18] <linxuser> b-real: utilizando translate.net lento eh?
[14:18] <b-real> no estoy traduciendo...
[14:19] <Peace-> b-real:  usb or internal wifi ?
[14:19] <b-real> solo intentando k me ayudeis
[14:19] <Peace-> !english | linxuser b-real
[14:20] <b-real> peace internal wifi
[14:20] <Peace-> b-real: lspci  on konsole
[14:20] <b-real> ok
[14:21] <linxuser> TImewarper: don't know. anyone help Timewarper with a build/install
[14:21] <b-real> peace http://paste.ubuntu.com/751437/
[14:22] <linxuser> TImewarper: I'm not familiar with source code installs
[14:22] <Peace-> b-real: so you have this 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[14:22] <Peace-> !broadcom | b-real
[14:22] <linxuser> *not familiar i.e. don't understand how to
[14:24] <linxuser> ubottu: sorry I was using translate.net I'm english only
[14:24] <linxuser> heh
[14:24] <Peace-> linxuser: ubottu is a program.
[14:25] <linxuser> :)
[15:44] <hustler2> are there kde 4.8 beta packages for kubuntu ?
[15:47] <PaulW2U> hustler2: afaik, 4.8 will only be available to precise users and backported to oneiric when released
[15:51] <lnxslck> Apart from that, if used with a newly created Nepomuk database, KDE 4.8 Beta 1 is the most stable and fast KDE ever created, even if it has some Nepomuk problems. KWin 4.8 is a lot faster than KWin 4.7 and, for the first time ever, I can fully use blur in my GeForce 6150SE. Dolphin 2 is simply awesome, even though it's not finished. QML Plasmoid replacements are working a treat.
[15:51] <lnxslck> kde 4.8 looks good
[15:52] <hustler2> that's why i would like to beta test it
[15:56] <lnxslck> hustler2, you can get it from svn or something
[15:57] <hustler2> ok
[16:07] <phoenix_firebrd> is there a ppa for digikam 2.3.0 64 bit
[16:16] <phoenix_firebrd> is there a ppa for digikam 2.3.0 64 bit
[16:20] <GirlyGirl> Hi, are packages of KDE 4.8 beta available for Kubuntu or will I have to build from source to test it?
[16:27] <DarthFrog> GirlyGirl: Doesn't look like it.  I can't find them on kubuntu.org or kde.org.
[16:27] <DarthFrog> Mind you that doesn't mean they don't exist or are forthcoming. :-)
[16:35] <daviddoria> I ran some software updates. It seems to have stuck at "Running post installation trigger man-db" I can't logout or shutdown because if I try it says "cancelled by muon-updater. What should I do?
[16:36] <DarthFrog> How long has it been running?
[16:36] <daviddoria> it has been there for an hour or so, it is clearly not doing anything
[16:37] <DarthFrog> From the terminal, you can run these commands: ps aux | grep muon
[16:37] <DarthFrog> That will give you the PID (process ID) of the muon process.s
[16:38] <daviddoria> ok got it
[16:38] <DarthFrog> then: sudo kill -15 <muon PID>
[16:38] <daviddoria> ok, i can kill it, i was just afraid of killing an update process
[16:38] <DarthFrog> It may bork your system, yes.
[16:38] <daviddoria> haha, so no other option?
[16:38] <phoenix_firebrd> he may also need to kill qaptworker
[16:38] <DarthFrog> Wait till it finishes? :-)
[16:39] <daviddoria> ok i killed it, let me restart
[16:40] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  is there a ppa for digikam 2.3.0 64 bit
[16:42] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: not that I know of
[16:46] <daviddoria> phew, not borked haha
[16:47] <kbroulik> but this time there will be beta packages for 4.8 not like with the last time at 4.7? :)
[16:47] <daviddoria> another question - I am trying to add things to the panel. I right click -> panel options -> add widgets. Then I drag the "application launcher" to the panel. The cursor changes to indicate that I can drop it there, but when I drop it, nothing happens - no icon appears. I've tried with "network monitor" as well. How do I get these to add to the panel?
[16:47] <DarthFrog>  daviddoria: Now I would run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a".
[16:48] <kbroulik> daviddoria: you have to move it around a bit till a grey rectangle/sqare appears, then you can drop it
[16:48] <kbroulik> (and they marked my bug report as WorksForMe because they say it works but I also have to fiddle around when adding widgets to the panel)
[16:49] <daviddoria> ah kbroulik i see, thanks
[16:49] <daviddoria> DarthFrog, ok
[16:54] <daviddoria> DarthFrog, it is asking me about settings for whole bunches of packages - are you sure this was a good plan :) ?
[16:55] <DarthFrog> Your call.  It's your system. :-)  Since you interrupted dpkg, I would think there are some things left hanging.
[16:56] <DarthFrog> You could terminate that process and try "sudo apt-get -f install" instead.
[16:56] <DarthFrog> That might suit your focus better. :-)
[17:01] <turing> Everytime kdedaemon after logging in asks for kwallet password. Is there a way to let it remember and not ask again and again after login?
[18:56] <memeemeee> hello. I installed my ubuntu 11.10 system with a separate partition for / and  /home if I install kubuntu on the / partition will it work with the /home partition automatically?
[18:58] <en1gma> does the cd or dvd kubuntu 11.10 come with wireshark?
[19:01] <memeemeee> anyone?
[19:02] <anathema_> Do anyone know how to permanently disable one of the two sound cards?
[19:08] <linxuser> memeemeee: you have to pick the partition with /home without formatting /home
[19:08] <linxuser> memeemeee: but telling it about it calling it /home at install
[19:09] <memeemeee> linxuser: k. and #ubuntu chanel said i could just instll kubuntu-desktop from apt and remove gnome and unity for the same effect
[19:10] <linxuser> memeemeee: ok, I thought you were reinstalling
[19:10] <memeemeee> i was, but only so i could get rid of unity and gnome
[19:10] <memeemeee> i should've started with kubuntu but didn't
[19:11] <linxuser> memeemeee:  I'll have to google it but the install kubuntu-desktop might be right
[19:12] <memeemeee> thx linxuser, if i can avoid doing a clean install it'd be better
[19:14] <memeemeee> at #ubuntu they said kubuntu is just ubuntu minimal install plus kubuntu-desktop is that true?
[19:14] <linxuser> memeemeee: I ran across this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:15] <linxuser> memeemeee: I was looking for something else this morning and remembered having seen this
[19:16] <linxuser> memeemeee: I found it in my browser history. Maybe someone else can verify if its good
[19:18] <anathema_> what is the default driver for ati cards?
[19:18] <linxuser> memeemeee: you know about that /home partition can be unformatted on fresh install
[19:19] <linxuser> memeemeee: keeping all your /home and its settings intact. just programs need fresh install
[19:19] <linxuser> memeemeee: but previous settings for those programs is retained
[19:21] <memeemeee> looks good linxuser. yes i know that /home can remain unformated, but if i can get to 'pure kubuntu' without doing that it'd be easier for me. save me from setting up my ssh keys, fstab and ifconfig again.
[19:22] <memeemeee> I'll go through those apt remove suggestions one by one and make sure they're things i want to remove
[19:24] <linxuser> memeemeee: no confirmation from anyone else out there in #kubuntu?
[19:25] <linxuser> *I like more opinions myself but its not been easy to get over the years
[19:26] <linxuser> I'm noob to irc ( < week ) ;)
[19:31] <linxuser> memeemeee: wow I just cut-pasted the stuff from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde into kate
[19:31] <linxuser> memeemeee: thats a huge task doing all those removes one by one
[19:33] <linxuser> memeemee seems doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and using -s option
[19:33] <linxuser> memeemeee: sudo apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop will show what it would do without doing it
[19:36] <rork> memeemeee: you're home directory should be mounted on system level, not on desktop environment level, so just installing kubuntu-desktop so I don't think that's a problem. The commands from psychocats to remove desktops worked fine for me on older systems.
[19:36] <memeemeee> thx
[19:39] <memeemeee> i'm reviewing the list. curious why I'm uninstalling python for example
[19:39] <linxuser> I have copies of /etc/fstab and /etc/network/* but I haven't used ssh just know its secure shell
[19:40] <linxuser> on reinstall I've had to edit in missing fstab stuff and /etc/network/ files
[19:41] <linxuser> */etc/network/interfaces
[19:42] <memeemeee> is it a mistake to install kubuntu-desktop while logged in with gdm? should I have logged out and done it from the CL?
[19:42] <linxuser> memeemeee:  don't know. anyone else got input?
[19:43] <rork> memeemeee: no, it's fine to install it when logged in, if you install kdm besides gdm it will ask you which you want to use, choose kdm if you plan to remove gdm later.
[19:43] <memeemeee> k that's what i did. it just occured that i might have made a mistake
[19:44] <linxuser> rork: 's what I thought. thx for input
[19:44] <rork> you can also use gdm to run KDE if you like it better
[19:45] <memeemeee> yeah... no! i'm done with gnome and unity. used both on dif pcs for the past few years, but at this point i'm done
[19:45] <toumbo> Is there any way to beutify gtk gui on kde?
[19:46] <toumbo> beautify***
[19:51] <linxuser>  beautify????? I thought gtk was gdm
[19:52] <OerHeks> gnome theme on QT kde ..
[19:53] <linxuser> oh, Im using kde hardy theme on kde
[19:54] <linxuser> not as pretty but I resist change
[19:55] <TheBunTu> geting a error mesage install smooth-task... I installed cmake...   http://pastebin.com/6XTA1JsM
[22:17] <Timewarper> hey how can i run a program from terminal as another user?
[22:17] <Timewarper> using su?
[22:19] <linxuser> is su same as sudo
[22:24] <bvi_> .
[22:25] <linxuser> Timewarper: wild guess is login as other user then sudo su?
[22:27] <linxuser> Timewarper: I've done it as [sudo su  and  su] as myself. I don't have other user to try.
[22:31] <linxuser> Timewarper: never mind. question must be over my head
[22:33] <phoenix_firebrd> is akonadi backup and restore working in 4.8?
[22:51] <Timewarper> i want to run    dd /dev/urandom /dev/sdb       but also see the progress of the proccess. any ideas?
[23:10] <pedahzur> Having an interesting problem with blue devil.  I can connect to a device, but when I browse to that device, the "Loading folder..." goes to 94% or 96% and just hangs, and doesn't load any more.


[11:33] <k_alam> Trevinho: Hi, Can you review and merge patch from robert_ancell (it needs to  be rebased though)......https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-settings-daemon/accountsservice-background/+merge/335431
[11:33] <k_alam> Trevinho: See issue here: https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/lightdm/issues/11
[11:33] <ubot5-ng> CanonicalLtd bug 11 in lightdm "Unity-greeter doesn't change background since 1.25.1 (Bionic)" (comments: 5) [Open]
[14:38] <jhodapp> I'm curious, if you're upgrading from a 16.04 Unity desktop system to 18.04, will I still have Unity by default? If I want to switch over to the GNOME Shell desktop session, will that just be there and I can select it from the login screen?
[14:49] <GunnarHj> jhodapp: Yes, I think that's the idea. *Default* will be Ubuntu with Xorg, but Unity will be an option on the login screen.
[16:40] <om26er> jhodapp: I upgraded one of my systems to 18.04 from 16.04, IIRC it logged into a Gnome Shell session


[04:29] <grv> hi
[04:29] <grv> everyone
[04:30] <grv> I need information on HTTPD
[04:30] <grv> anyone
[04:30] <grv> ?
[04:30] <krytarik> Yes, #httpd.
[04:30] <grv> I have lots of process running with httpd
[04:30] <grv> on task manager
[04:31] <grv> and they are consuming lot of memory under the appache
[04:31] <grv> how to stop this permanently
[04:33] <grv> wht hpn
[04:49] <grv> hi
[04:49] <grv> pls help me with httpd
[04:49] <grv> i want to stop this populating my ram
[11:28] <GoRzA> Hi guys! I am having problems instaling lubuntu on one of my ssd´s. Whatever I do it says "input/output error writing to /dev/sda" the ssd works fine under windows and I can format it using win10 tools and MiniTool Partition Wizard but Garted cant do anything and fdisc gives me the input/output error. Anybothy that have the time to help me?
[11:29] <leszek> GoRzA: ssds attached via SATA or something else ?
[11:30] <GoRzA> I have tried it on my desktop with sata but it is originaly in a laptop with sata.
[11:35] <GoRzA>  leszek: It is a SATA drive right now sitting in a sony vaio laptop.
[11:40] <leszek> have run gparteds check on the disk and read out smartdata with smartmontools
[11:40] <leszek> sounds strange to have I/O errors
[11:43] <GoRzA> ha not donew that but I did a surface test with MiniTool Partition Wizard
[11:43] <GoRzA> and it came back with no errors
[11:43] <leszek> don't know that tool
[11:44] <GoRzA> windows tool....
[11:52] <hateball> GoRzA: and the drive isnt encrypted or so?
[11:59] <GoRzA> no, its not encrypted.
[12:01] <GoRzA> First it was formated in NTFS and had windows7 on it. i/o error, formated it to fat32 i/o error, formated to ext4 i/o error deleted the patition i/o error. I dont realy know what else to do.....
[12:01] <hateball> GoRzA: do you see anything weird in "dmesg" ?
[12:01] <hateball> GoRzA: what drive is it?
[12:02] <hateball> some drives are buggy and need kernel parameters to behave
[12:02] <GoRzA> give me a min, will start it up in the laptop....
[12:04] <GoRzA> it is a corsair force 3 ssd, how do I get the right kernel parameters?
[12:08] <GoRzA_Laptop> [   21.989793] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 234441472 [   21.989800] Buffer I/O error on dev sda, logical block 29305184, async page read
[12:08] <GoRzA> that is what seams wierd in dmesg
[12:12] <GoRzA_Laptop> everything involving sda: [   21.989784] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#28 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [   21.989786] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#28 Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]  [   21.989788] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#28 Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range [   21.989791] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#28 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 0d f9 4b 00 00 00 08 00 [   21.989793] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sda, secto
[12:13] <cimar> hi
[12:13] <GoRzA> hi
[12:16] <leszek> GoRzA: found this: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=96845 apparently affecting windows users also
[12:19] <leszek> GoRzA: check also for firmware updates. From what I read Corsair shipped broken devices if you don't update the firmware
[12:19] <GoRzA> well mine works fine on windows and instaling windows on it is no problem, the problem is that windows 10 is so slow on my laptop and keep bugging me with al kinds of nonsense.
[12:22] <GoRzA> corsair has no firmware updates for the force 3....
[12:22] <hateball> GoRzA: you could try booting with this kernel param: "libata.force=noncq"
[12:22] <hateball> see if that makes any difference at all
[12:24] <GoRzA> total noob on linux how do I tell it to boot with that parameter?
[12:24] <hateball> GoRzA: when you have the liveboot-grub, press F6 to be able to edit boot options
[12:25] <hateball> by default a menu will popup with things like noacpi and such. press ESC to get to the bootline that ends with "quiet splash"
[12:25] <hateball> and then you just add at the end of that: libata.force=noncq
[12:26] <GoRzA> Did ress f6 but it just went through a huge amount of commands to fast to read and then booted in to the desktop enviroment.
[12:31] <GoRzA> found it, had to pres TAB on th boot menu.
[12:32] <GoRzA> didnt work though still cant do anythiing to the ssd :(
[12:33] <GoRzA> hateball: Thx for the help but I need to go to work, spent al morning trying to get this to work. will resume another day. Thx again!
[13:11] <gaurav__> hi
[13:11] <gaurav__> I have issue in booting
[13:12] <gaurav__> I hv update to latest 17.04
[13:12] <gaurav__> but is booting time is taking so long
[13:12] <gaurav__> anybody
[13:12] <gaurav__> ??
[13:14] <gaurav__> helllllllllllo
[13:22] <leszek> gaurav__: be patient
[13:23] <leszek> not everyone watches like a hawk if someone types something new in here
[13:23] <leszek> and I am eating currently so be honered that I answer :P
[13:24] <leszek> gaurav__: you can run the terminal command systemd-analyze blame to see a list from top to bottom of services that take the longest when it comes to booting
[13:24] <leszek> posting that list on a pastebin.com like service and adding the link in here might help us figuring out what the issue might be
[19:29] <thrmo> Hey there
[19:29] <thrmo> what would be the best lightweight dock for lubuntu?
[19:30] <thrmo> as lightweight as it gets
[19:30] <krytarik> Plank.
[19:31] <thrmo> krytarik, thanks, i'll give it a try


[00:31] <Darkfire2018> moin
[06:53] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:21] <Mrokii> Hello. Does anybody in here know how to properly configure Cantata mpd client? I can't seem to get it to update the database so that it finds my music collection.
[07:42] <Mrokii> I solved the problem myself meanwhile. It wasn't enough to point Cantata to my music folder, I also had to edit /etc/mpd.conf to use the same path.
[08:21] <lordievader> Mrokii: That makes sense. Cantata is a frontend for mpd. Mpd handles the library stuff.
[08:23] <Mrokii> lordievader: Yeah, probably. But as I had no former knowledge about mpd I didn't know what exactly had to be configured. I guess it would be good if Cantata gave more info about what one has to do. Setting the music folder in Cantata looks kind of misleading to me.
[08:24] <lordievader> True. Not really sure what Cantata does with it. Perhaps store album images or something.
[08:26] <Mrokii> well, it does say that it uses the folder to look up cover-art. But the label is "Music folder", so one should assume that this is where Cantata looks for music as well. There's no hint that one has to change anything in the mpd-configuration at all.
[08:28] <Mrokii> And it's found on a page named "Collection settings", so the assumption that this is where one points to their own music folder only seems natural.
[08:28] <lordievader> Yes, a bit of MPD knowledge helps in this case.
[08:30] <Mrokii> Seems so, yes.
[10:06] <mkokorev> hello guys
[10:07] <mkokorev> anybody help me with network configuration in ubuntu 16.04 lts? after reconfig interfaces.conf brake command services network restart
[10:08] <mkokorev> but ifaces worked
[10:11] <marcpv> Hi, I just delete the app launcher, how can I restore it?
[10:13] <mkokorev> marcpv: you delete app on panel?
[10:14] <marcpv> Yes...
[10:14] <marcpv> so stupid, I'm new to Plasma
[10:15] <mkokorev> if you delete app launcher on desctop panel? im recomend you right click on panel, add aplet and find it app launcher in libary, or delete panel and add default panel again.
[10:16] <mkokorev> marcpv: add widget
[10:17] <marcpv> ohhh I see now
[10:17] <marcpv> thanks very much
[10:18] <marcpv> but now the super key does not work for it
 Firefox 59 is out tonight
[10:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:22] <Prototype> hey guys
[12:24] <BluesKaj> hey Prototype
[12:25] <Prototype> hey BluesKaj
[12:25] <Prototype> got a question
[12:27] <BluesKaj> nope, you?
[12:28] <Prototype> i want to resize my home partiition, i tried using gparted installed but it does not seem to want to work,
[12:29] <BluesKaj> make sure you unmount the partition before resizing it
[12:30] <Prototype> ye,  tried that but it wouldnt let me,  which led me to think maybe i should be using live version
[12:31] <BluesKaj> you can't resize a partition in use,use t
[12:31] <BluesKaj> live media
[12:31] <Prototype> k
[12:32] <Prototype> resizing is gonna wipe all my data isnt it?
[12:32] <Prototype> or is it?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> not if you make sure the coloured region which indicates data isn't touched
[12:36] <BluesKaj> if you're shrinking it
[12:36] <BluesKaj> expanding won't affect the data
[12:38] <Prototype> ok,  and i can move the partition to make sure coloured region is not touched right? (i did read something about movving parttions to left or right)
[12:39] <BluesKaj> are you trying to create another partition in unused space?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> moving partitions isn't necessary even if they aren't in order
[12:41] <BluesKaj> numerically or visiably
[12:41] <BluesKaj> visibly rather
[12:41] <Prototype> no,  just to shrink my home partition which i made way too big
[12:42] <BluesKaj> ok, what size is it ?
[12:43] <Prototype> at the moment 135GB,  i want to make it arounf half
[12:44] <BluesKaj> depending on what data you store on it 80-100gG is plenty
[12:44] <Prototype> only using about 30GB
[12:45] <Prototype> more like 25 i think
[12:46] <BluesKaj> then 80 is probly fine if you have a large drive like 500G, then you have plenty of room to dual boot if needed
[12:47] <Prototype> but no less
[12:48] <Prototype> ?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> you need some "headroom", but that's your call
[12:51] <Prototype> i understand that,  i thought if i made it so i had around 20GB to play with that would be enough
[12:52] <BluesKaj> it might be if ypu don't store media files etc in your /home
[12:53] <Prototype> only music,  nothing too big
[12:54] <Prototype> well, i have made backups,  just in case it all goes horribly wrong
[12:55] <BluesKaj> my music file is the largest folder due to my aversion to mp3/lossy codecs, prefer flac or wav
[12:58] <Prototype> all my music is mp3 or wma,  since it had to fit on my mp3 player which has the laughably small capacity of 32GB
[12:59] <Prototype> i was looking for something cheap at the time tho
[13:00] <Prototype> I remember my very first mp3 player...128MB hehe
[13:00] <Prototype> 4 albums at the lowest bit rate
[13:01] <BluesKaj> ugh :-)
[13:01] <sparta_boy> hello. can someone help me here. i cant change my energy settings in kubuntu since there is no 'apply' button
[13:01] <sparta_boy> does anybody know how to fix this? i cant change my screen dim and sleep timer
[13:02] <BluesKaj> been an audio guy for most of my life ...mp3 doesn't cut it
[13:03] <Prototype> hey sparta_boy...i had some problem,  only way around it that i found was this
[13:03] <BluesKaj> sparta_boy, give us a screenshot, there shoulb
[13:03] <BluesKaj> be one
[13:04] <Prototype> i could not see one,  i just picked settings i wanted,  then attempted to close the window  upon whihc i was propted whether i wanted to save settings
[13:06] <sparta_boy> BluesKaj: yes hold on
[13:06] <Prototype> ye,  i think it is right at bottom,  but its fallen off screen and no way to access it
[13:06] <sparta_boy> Prototype: nope it does not even ask me anything like that
[13:08] <sparta_boy> here: https://imgur.com/a/4KiSt
[13:09] <Prototype> try this......chane setting then click on another tab
[13:10] <sparta_boy> Prototype: yes i did that
[13:10] <sparta_boy> now ?
[13:10] <sparta_boy> should i try closing and seeing if it worked ?
[13:11] <Prototype> it didnt promt you to save the settings?#
[13:11] <sparta_boy> Prototype: no
[13:11] <Prototype> hmmm
[13:12] <sparta_boy> i closed it . reopened, and its all reset to the default :X
[13:12] <Prototype> sorry, im out of ideas,  im new to Kubuntu myself,  and that is the only solution i found
[13:13] <Prototype> one of the more experienced users may be able to help
[13:13] <sparta_boy> Prototype: ah thats okay, thanks ! :)
[13:17] <Prototype> no problem
[17:32] <massimo30> hello
[17:33] <stfu> why is chat so dead?
[17:38] <brn> hello friends
[17:39] <brn> what is the best way to burn a usb stick with manjaro when I'm on kubuntu
[17:39] <brn> I like kubuntu but I fucked up my audio drivers
[17:39] <brn> so I'm giving manjaro another go
[17:41] <brn> someone help please
[19:12] <brn> please help
[19:12] <brn> how do I burn an ISO
[19:12] <brn> using kubuntu
[19:12] <brn> I need to burn in a USB stick
 https://twitter.com/bittin/status/973637003186188289
[19:15] <MANIAC> brn:
[19:15] <MANIAC> just download unetbootin
[19:15] <MANIAC> google about it
[19:15] <MANIAC> i use that software for burn in bootable usb
[19:28] <martok> Has anyone been experiencing bad superblocks? This is the fourth laptop that I've had bad superblocks. All running 16.04 64 bit. When I start the laptop, it comes up to initramfs: By now I'm starting to think it's not a coincidence.
[21:00] <NewGO> hi all. My Kubuntu 17.10 works well except dialogs are sluggish and firefox context menu as well. I have NVidia GTX 580 and had no problem in 17.04


[01:58] <LLStarks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/611262/
[01:59] <LLStarks> 5.0b2 i386 thinks it's windows
[01:59] <LLStarks> this is with the new package
[01:59] <BUGabundo> ahhaha
[13:05] <chrisccoulson> LLStarks, what language are you using (re, http://paste.ubuntu.com/611262/)?
[13:05] <chrisccoulson> and are you using the add-on compatibility reporter?
[13:34] <fta> uh?
[13:34] <fta> >>> cmp(u'foo', u'foo bar')
[13:34] <fta> -1
[13:34] <fta> >>> cmp(u'"foo"', u'"foo bar"')
[13:34] <fta> 1
[20:26] <LLStarks> chrisccoulson, i am using acr.
[20:26] <LLStarks> and this is no language that i am using
[20:26] <LLStarks> nothing of substance addon-wise should've changed between 4 and 5
[20:27] <LLStarks> all addons work unless they explicitly don't work.
[20:30] <micahg> LLStarks: not entirely true
[20:30] <micahg> LLStarks: http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/05/21/firefox-5-compatibility-bump/
[20:31] <LLStarks> i thought maxver would be ignored
[20:31] <micahg> LLStarks: nope, that would cause lots of problems
[20:31] <LLStarks> so, what's  the new criteria?
[20:31] <micahg> there will bre breaks between versions, just less than there used to be for each version :)
[20:59] <chrisccoulson> LLStarks, if you are using the addon compatibility reporter, then that's your fault
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> the issue is that the firefox 4 translation packs don't contain the new strings
[21:00] <LLStarks> ah
[21:00] <LLStarks> okay
[21:00] <LLStarks> is the reporter deprecated given the new compatibility model?
[21:00] <chrisccoulson> i wish people would be more aware of the consequences of using acr, as this keeps happening
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> no, it's not deprecated AFAIK
[21:01] <LLStarks> it's easier than adding the boolean to about:config
[21:02] <LLStarks> chrisccoulson: besides, the popup only occurs during Help>About
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> LLStarks, you can install the new translations by installing firefox-locale-$LANG for your language
[21:03] <chrisccoulson> they will be installed by default once we have dropped the existing firefox 4 translations from the main language packs and fixed language-selector to pull them in
[21:04] <LLStarks> so, en-US will be used?
[21:04] <chrisccoulson> LLStarks, no, we have translations for other languages: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/5.0~b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[21:05] <LLStarks> i just want my spellchecker to stop being so anal. is there anyway to force en-US?
[21:06] <LLStarks> without overriding compatibility
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> the spellchecking is entirely separate from translations. you can select whatever spellcheck language you like in the UI
[21:09] <LLStarks> en-US, en-SA, en-GB
[21:10] <LLStarks> only SA and GB are compatible
[21:10] <LLStarks> what is firefox-locale-en installing?
[21:11] <chrisccoulson> i didn't even realize there were compatibility checks on spellchecking
[21:11] <chrisccoulson> it's installing en-GB and en-ZA translations
[21:12] <chrisccoulson> nothing to do with spellchecking. they are provided by separate packages which don't need to change
[21:12] <chrisccoulson> and you can select spellcheck language independent of the UI locale
[21:22] <LLStarks> i honestly just think my .mozilla is fubar
[21:22] <LLStarks> i only clear it completely once or twice a year
[21:27] <chrisccoulson> what's the actual problem?
[21:30] <LLStarks> the chrome is localized to en-Something
[21:30] <LLStarks> the spellchecker is not en-US. my global locale is en-US.
[21:31] <LLStarks> i don't know what i need to change.
[21:35] <LLStarks> i still only have en-US langpack 4.0
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> LLStarks, well, that's because our main language packs ship a en-US.xpi for firefox 4 by mistake
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> the replacement language packs don't contain that
[21:42] <chrisccoulson> however, firefox falls back to en-US anyway
[21:42] <LLStarks> what can/should i do on my end?
[21:42] <chrisccoulson> the spellcheck language is completely separate from the UI language, and you can change it just by right clicking on a word you want to check
[21:42] <LLStarks> the spellchecker reacts to all differences between american english and non-american english
[21:43] <LLStarks> so every s and z can cause a flag
[21:43] <LLStarks> defense/defencel, specialize/specialise
[21:43] <LLStarks> etc
[21:44] <LLStarks> i switched to en-US
[21:44] <LLStarks> but i have no guarantee that it will not be a problem for others
[21:44] <LLStarks> en-Australia was default for my spellchecker
[21:50] <LLStarks> whenever this problem comes up, i keep forgetting that spellchecker language switcher is well-hidden