[11:09] <nickgarvey> !language
[11:09] <ubuntu_> untill i shutdowned windows...then i went to start back up and that note came up...when i press f1 it comes up again... i can noly boot via cd
[11:09] <bimberi> nickgarvey: ?
[11:09] <nickgarvey> fast fingers PwcrLinux :)
[11:09] <ubuntu_rules> do you know of another program like tripwire that is easier to use?
[11:09] <PwcrLinux> lol
[11:09] <nickgarvey> bimberi: let me try again
[11:10] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, please watch your language and tr to stay on-topic
[11:10] <ubuntu_rules> hi bimberi...
[11:10] <ubuntu_> how can i see my hard drive (ntfs) in ubntu?
[11:10] <UbuntuNewbie> now if i could only have firefox program run faster than X-Chat
[11:10] <nickrud> toxic__, you set that in your /etc/fstab: for example, my fat32 is /dev/hda3       /usm            vfat    rw,auto,fmask=0117,dmask=0007,gid=1004
[11:10] <UbuntuNewbie> i will be so happy
[11:10] <Seveas> !ntfs
[11:10] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:10] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  have you seen malone?
[11:10] <ubuntu_rules> !logging
[11:10] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_rules
[11:10] <bimberi> ubuntu_rules: hi
[11:10] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, that's no reason to start swearing out loud in here
[11:10] <jake1> ubuntu you need to change your primary drive
[11:10] <swim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport
[11:10] <Seveas> !logs
[11:10] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[11:10] <swim> oops
[11:10] <jake1> it's easy
[11:10] <jake1> hit F2
[11:10] <toxic__> nickrud, fmask/dmask/gid is unset ...
[11:10] <nickgarvey> bimberi: 1.  shift pg up, 2. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, 3. alt f2, terminal
[11:10] <ubuntu_> no i didn't change anything....it qworked eralier
[11:10] <jake1> ubuntu_: hit F2
[11:11] <jake1> i understand
[11:11] <bimberi> nickgarvey: i think you have the wrong nick :)
[11:11] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, that is just for irc though right? i need a logging program like tripwire
[11:11] <jake1> i'm telling you how to fix it
[11:11] <jake1> just hit F2
[11:11] <jake1> it can happen
[11:11] <nickrud> toxic__, that's where you set file, directory permissions; mine is set to a particular group has write access
[11:11] <jake1> especially if you boot from a CD recently
[11:11] <ubuntu_> f2 gors to bios
[11:11] <swim> mmm help?
[11:11] <jake1> yes
[11:11] <ubuntu_> its a dell by the way..dimesnion 5100
[11:11] <jake1> now look for something about drive setup
[11:11] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:11] <nickrud> toxic__, fmask & dmask are finer grain control than umask
[11:11] <toxic__> nickrud, yeah taht sounds like a pretty good idea. I'll look into the specific perms and all
[11:11] <Cooner750> It works now :)
[11:11] <ubuntu_> i been there with options to turn on or off
[11:11] <Bambino> nickgarvey, Shift + Up didnt work either. It gave me "A"'s
[11:11] <bimberi> Cooner750: great :)
[11:12] <Cooner750> I wonder why XMMS cannot play files located on a computer on the network
[11:12] <ubuntu_> jake..what iam i looking for?
[11:12] <nickgarvey> Bambino shift pgup
[11:12] <Seveas> Cooner750, because it doesn't understand gnome vfs
[11:12] <nickgarvey> =)
[11:12] <nickgarvey> bah how do you do that
[11:12] <Seveas> Cooner750, if you really mount the share, any program can play it
[11:12] <Bambino> nickgarvey, oh :P sry. What aboult alt tab. Gives me different windows. Like windows does
[11:12] <ubuntu_> jakel..u still there?
[11:12] <jake1> fine an option that says Boot
[11:12] <nickgarvey> Bambino scroll up I reanswered
[11:13] <ubuntu_> yah
[11:13] <nickgarvey> Bambino:  1.  shift pg up, 2. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, 3. alt f2, term
[11:13] <jake1> you there?
[11:13] <toxic__> nickrud, thanks for the advices
[11:13] <nickgarvey> oh I directed at the wrong person sorry
[11:13] <nickrud> toxic__, yw
[11:13] <swim> hey folks I'm getting this when trying to apt-get anything: E: The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. i dont really care about java at the moment
[11:13] <ubuntu_rules> nickgarvey, my pg up and pg dn keys dont work...
[11:13] <ubuntu_> yah i'm here....i find a option that syas boot
[11:13] <Seveas> swim, sudo dpkg -P jre
[11:13] <ubuntu_> then where do i go?
[11:14] <Sh4d0x> swim: did you enabled multiverse?
[11:14] <Bambino> nickgarvey, thank you. One lassssst question. I did a cat /proc/cpuinfo and got the info about my system. Where do i read what kind of 64bit amd i am running?
[11:14] <swim> Sh4d0x: yes
[11:14] <jake1> you need to change the boot priority
[11:14] <ubuntu_> okay..will try thanks
[11:14] <intelikey> ever sense reboot (power on for today)   printer wont work and i get device doesn't exist and "cupsd: Child exited with status 98!"
[11:14] <toxic__> nickrud, after applying changes to fstab, do I need to remount to make it work ?
[11:14] <ubuntu_> why would it do that..by itself?
[11:14] <nickrud> toxic__, yes
[11:14] <nickgarvey> should say under model name..
[11:14] <jake1> i dunno
[11:15] <jake1> millions of possibilites
[11:15] <intelikey> anybody know what  cupsd: Child exited with status 98!   means ?
[11:15] <ubuntu_> okay will try thanks
[11:15] <ubuntu_> later all
[11:15] <Sh4d0x> Swim: then you shoud try seveas's commad =)
[11:15] <ubuntu_> if it wasn't for unbtu live cd..i wouldn't be here right now
[11:15] <swim> Seveas:  dpkg: error processing jre (--purge):  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should   reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:15] <jake1> ok... so does Ubuntu work on the MacBook Pro
[11:15] <jake1> ?
[11:15] <ubuntu_rules> Bambino, have you tried /sv under irc?
[11:15] <intelikey> anybody ?
[11:16] <leonel_> hello
[11:16] <nickrud> intelikey, http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-faq.html#q_4_2 (searched the error)
[11:16] <leonel_> que
[11:16] <Bambino> ubuntu_rules, nope, it gave me this: xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic [x86_64/800.53MHz]   so which do i have?
[11:16] <xxxs> &
[11:16] <swim> Seveas: still here?
[11:16] <leonel_> whta
[11:17] <leonel_> what
[11:17] <Seveas> swim, barely
[11:17] <ub-newb> I've got a Warty-Ubuntu live CD.
[11:17] <kbrooks> Bambino: you have the "linux 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic" kernel
[11:17] <ub-newb> keeps cycling back to grub on boot
[11:17] <leonel_> no i cant
[11:17] <ub-newb> bios set to boot from CD
[11:17] <swim> Seveas:  dpkg: error processing jre (--purge):  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should   reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:17] <leonel_> name
[11:17] <ubuntu_> Ubuntu is a very nice OS
[11:17] <Seveas> swim, ehrm - that sounds really bad....
[11:17] <leonel_> coma mierda
[11:17] <swim> yes
[11:17] <ubuntu_rules> Bambino, you have a generic 64bit x86 AMD 800mhz processor...   is that what you were asking about?
[11:17] <Bambino> kbrooks, i am trying to find out which amd i got. like amd64 k8, or xeon etc..
[11:17] <Seveas> apt-cache policy jre, output on pastebin
[11:17] <ub-newb> I tried acpi on cheat
[11:17] <Sh4d0x> Seveas: if i were you i think i would be crazy by now =D
[11:17] <leonel_> shet
[11:18] <Ward> Hi, I just tested XGL on my ubuntu dapper, but when I start gdm, it's just doing nothing... gdm starts, the pointer appears, but nothing happens. Is this a common problem?
[11:18] <jake1> mkay..... but seemingly no one knows if it can at all run on MacBook Pro or any of the intel macs
[11:18] <ruzgar> wine gives font/font.gid error anybody know about that
[11:18] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, I am
[11:18] <nickrud> swim, Seveas man dpkg suggests --force-remove-reinstreq
[11:18] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: what the reason kick me for?
[11:18] <ruzgar> other programs give font.gid error too
[11:18] <leonel_> ldfd dfdjdufjdf
[11:18] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, public away messages are not allowed
[11:18] <swim> nickrud: huh?
[11:18] <ubuntu_rules> i need a logging program like tripwire...  any ideas?
[11:18] <leonel_> jou am ni cant nou and put
[11:18] <Seveas> leonel_, behave
[11:18] <UbuntuNewbie> what program do i use to configure my ethernet card
[11:19] <Sh4d0x> Seveas: hug
[11:19] <UbuntuNewbie> let me rephrase that question
[11:19] <ubuntu_rules> !ethernet
[11:19] <swim> Seveas: http://pastebin.ca/48249
[11:19] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_rules
[11:19] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  system > administration > networking
[11:19] <nickrud> swim, more for Seveas, but it concerns you. do man dpkg , then /force it'll be at the top of the screen.
[11:19] <Ward> I'm using fglrx as X11 driver btw
[11:19] <jake1> UbuntuNewbie: you could use ifconfig
[11:19] <ub-newb> This live cd did boot a couple months ago - but diff hardware now
[11:19] <jake1> or wat wastrel said
[11:19] <PwcrLinux> Sev: well other ops says okay to idling in here
[11:19] <ub-newb> now a Dell Inspiron 5150 dual cpu
[11:19] <Seveas> swim, I'd try what nickrud said
[11:19] <UbuntuNewbie> should i reconfigure my ethernet card if my IRC program is working and the update program is also working
[11:19] <jake1> wow... it's been awhile for me as a Linux user
[11:19] <jake1> i'm in command line mindset
[11:19] <jake1> lol
[11:19] <swim> ok looking now nickrud, Seveas.
[11:20] <Seveas> dpkg -P --force-remove-reinstreq
[11:20] <UbuntuNewbie> it is just the browser that it takes forever to get web pages
[11:20] <ubuntu_rules> jake1, how do you drop your ip addy using ifconfig? i am too used to windoze
[11:20] <xxxs> lol
[11:20] <xxxs> -xxxs-
[11:20] <xxxs> CTCP VERSION  xxxs
[11:20] <xxxs> VERSION xchat 2.4.4 Linux 2.6.12-9-386 [i686/3.00GHz]
[11:20] <xxxs> Bambino: you have the "linux 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic" kerne
[11:20] <ubuntutu> Hey do I need to backup anything besides home and var?
[11:20] <Seveas> apokryphos, you dog!
[11:21] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: well other ops says okay to idling in here
[11:21] <apokryphos> Seveas: aloha
[11:21] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, idling is fine, away messages not.
[11:21] <carthik> I dist-upgraded to dapper, and now I get an error saying "ALERT! /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" when I try to boot. How do i fix this issue? - I cannot boot using the 2.6.15-19 kernel image. When I boot with the old 2.6.12 hotplug and associates dont work
[11:21] <ravensboy16> hey waz up
[11:22] <Seveas> carthik, file a bug - it could be a bad initramfs
[11:22] <ubuntutu> Hey what needs backed up on a system besides /home and /var   ?
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> hello again George2
[11:22] <Seveas> carthik, do you have /boot on a separate partition?
[11:22] <swim> Seveas, nickrud, thanks that seemed to work... who knows if that broken package has caused any other damage but thats ok this isnt a very serious ubuntu install...
[11:22] <Seveas> ubuntutu, /etc sounds like a nice candidate....
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> George2, get any help over there?
[11:22] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  firefox in breezy is known to be slooooooow
[11:22] <George2> hey ubuntu_rules
[11:22] <George2> not much
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> ...
[11:22] <ubuntu_rules> =(
[11:22] <George2> just have to learn about python/perl lol
[11:22] <ub-newb> trying to boot ubuntu live CD - just cycles back to grub prompt - never starts loading
[11:23] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  upgrading to ff1.5 helps if you can handle the howto
[11:23] <jake1> firefox in general has memory leaks
[11:23] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: You should talk with tore (sp?) (he used in here overnight) about away messages, so he noticed my away message and didn't kick me..
[11:23] <carthik> Seveas, yes. I have a seperate partition for /boot - does this mean anything? And could help me with submitting the bugreport - what details should I include?
[11:23] <ub-newb> live cd did work on diff hardware 2 months ago.
[11:23] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, tore isn't an op in here (nor anyone with a nickname like it)
[11:23] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, arguing is useless. away messages will get you kicked
[11:23] <ub-newb> Is there a cheat code that might help?
[11:24] <Seveas> carthik, check whether that partition is full
[11:24] <ubuntu_rules> thorapudic i believe you are talking about PwcrLinux
[11:24] <UbuntuNewbie> thanks for the info.  ill try to get the latest firefox program
[11:24] <PwcrLinux> Yes that thor
[11:24] <sovieticool> XGl work on ubuntu whit amd 64 ?
[11:24] <Seveas> sovieticool, probably
[11:24] <Seveas> !xgl
[11:24] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:24] <ubuntu_rules> i need a logging program like tripwire...  any ideas?
[11:25] <dasruud> what to install to have a mac-like dock on my ubuntu (gnome)?
[11:25] <ubuntutu> Ok so are home,var and etc the only folders that have installation specific files?
[11:25] <carthik> Seveas, on the contrary it has 201.65 MB free. Only about 80MB is used now.
[11:25] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: whatever.. I will turn off the away messages.
[11:25] <Seveas> carthik, hmm...
[11:25] <apokryphos> dasruud: there are many available, some as themes from superkaramba. Personally I prefer ksmoothdock and/or kxdocker if I have to use one.
[11:25] <sovieticool> thanx seveas and ubotu
[11:25] <nickrud> ubuntutu, the ones that would not be reinstated by an install, yes.
[11:25] <PwcrLinux> Seveas: talk with thourapudic when he's will be in..
[11:25] <dasruud> apok: tks, i tried kxdocker and it acted funny
[11:26] <Seveas> PwcrLinux, stop it now.
[11:26] <apokryphos> dasruud: what was the problem?
[11:26] <dasruud> i'll try ksmooth
[11:26] <nickrud> ubuntutu, you might also want /usr/local if you put anything ghere
[11:26] <keithhhhhhhhh> can someone help me, I messed up my windows XP partition....I tried to reinstall XP.    Im using GRUB as the partition manager
[11:26] <nickgarvey> !tell sovieticool about bot
[11:26] <apokryphos> keithhhhhhhhh: /msg ubotu grub
[11:27] <ubuntu_rules> !tell keithhhhhhhhh about grub
[11:27] <dasruud> well, since i'm in gnome it did funny thinks, like not wantig to close and no longer allowing acces to the original dock
[11:27] <keithhhhhhhhh> ok
[11:27] <apokryphos> dasruud: I believe that our very own n alioth has packaged it for ubuntu, you can get it from his repository
[11:27] <apokryphos> dasruud: /msg ubotu nalioth
[11:27] <carthik> Seveas, i am now booted in, without hotplug etc on that laptop. Are there any logs etc that I can use for  my bug report for the latest kernel boot issue (or are they lost now?)
[11:27] <ubuntutu> I've got a pair of programs but I don't use them anymore.
[11:27] <apokryphos> dasruud: hm, odd.
[11:27] <keithhhhhhhhh> thanks
[11:27] <Bambino> !wmv
[11:27] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:27] <dasruud> tks apok, i'm trying
[11:28] <apokryphos> Seveas: you need to ask for people to sponsor to buy you an amd64 so you can get those packages in on your repo too ;-)
[11:28] <Seveas> carthik, they most likely aren't logged since it couldn't find the root disk - I suggest you file a bug
[11:28] <Seveas> apokryphos, haha
[11:28] <carthik> Seveas, in package initramfs ?
[11:28] <Seveas> apokryphos, I had a google ad thing on the pastebin for two months, earned $5 - so I don't think sponsoring is an option ;)
[11:29] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, if i am bothering you, let me say sorry in advance...   do you know of any programs that can log 'hack' attempts?
[11:29] <ubuntutu> Heyone know how o release eject control back to physical?
[11:29] <zezu> does this default cdburning app just use cdrecord ?
[11:29] <ubuntu_rules> unauthorized logon attempts*
[11:29] <trappist> ubuntu_rules: umount the device
[11:29] <trappist> ubuntu_rules: /var/log/auth.log should contain those
[11:29] <Seveas> ubuntu_rules, I know there exist such packages, do an apt-cache search analyzer | grep log
[11:29] <apokryphos> Seveas: don't spend that all at once. Perhaps if you put a note on seveas.ubuntulinux.nl with the reason for the funding. Seems like a lot of people were happy to get mirrors in, who knows.
[11:29] <Seveas> or something like that
[11:30] <TruckerMan> can anyone recomend a good mpg123 command line wrapper?
[11:30] <trappist> ubuntu_rules: grep failure /var/log/auth.log
[11:30] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, trappist ok... do i type in all  apt-cache search analyzer | grep log? i am new to this os
[11:30] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: in the terminal, yes.
[11:31] <ubuntu_rules> ty apokryphos
[11:31] <dasruud> apokryphos tks on the repository
[11:31] <dawid> hey how can i get a more graphically pleasing looking ubuntu.
[11:31] <dawid> I believe it is runnign gnome
[11:31] <TruckerMan> kubuntu
[11:31] <nickgarvey> !kubuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> kubuntu is, like, Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[11:31] <nickgarvey> !xubuntu
[11:31] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:31] <apokryphos> dawid: a lot of tinkering is available from /msg ubotu themes
[11:31] <Seveas> ubuntu_rules, try logcheck
[11:31] <sovieticool> how to install falsh for firefox >
[11:31] <sovieticool> ?
[11:32] <apokryphos> sovieticool: /msg ubotu flash
[11:32] <dasruud> dawid, www.gnome-look.org
[11:32] <zezu> damnit
[11:32] <sovieticool> thank's
[11:32] <zezu> this cd burning app keeps shitting out halfway through and then saying it burned the whole thing
[11:32] <kbrooks> ubotu: kubuntu =~ s/, (/ (/
[11:32] <ubotu> OK, kbrooks
[11:32] <UbuntuNewbie> it looks like no matter what browser i installed it is still slow getting the web pages
[11:32] <TruckerMan> !mpg123
[11:32] <nickrud> TruckerMan, try aptitude search xmms , one of those should work :)
[11:32] <nickgarvey> !language
[11:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:32] <ubuntu_rules> Seveas, dont see that, but should i use a full-featured ap or a firewall log ap?
[11:33] <dasruud> apokryphos: this ubotu thing is a bot, right?
[11:33] <TruckerMan> !aptitude
[11:33] <TruckerMan> what is that?
[11:33] <apokryphos> dasruud: indeed :)
[11:33] <ubuntu_rules> !good bot
[11:33] <dasruud> tks
[11:33] <ubotu> :)
[11:33] <kbrooks> nickgarvey: use "!tell nickname about factoid" please
[11:33] <TruckerMan> i see
[11:33] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: it's a different front-end to apt
[11:33] <nickrud> TruckerMan, it's another interface to apt, it searches short descriptions by default
[11:33] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: it has some nice things over apt-get like remembering which packages were installed to meet dependencies etc
[11:33] <theripper> can somone help me with instaling bon echo
[11:33] <theripper> '?
[11:34] <ub-newb> HI.  I've got a live Ubuntu CD that installs fine on Inspiron 4000, but just keeps cycling to grub on a Inspiron 5150
[11:34] <dawid> can i make windows transparent in gnome?
[11:34] <arrick> ok gotta go later, Thanks for the help nickgarvey
[11:34] <apokryphos> dawid: for true transparency you'll have to use a composite manager. Either using composite, or XGL on dapper.
[11:34] <Firefox_7> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[11:34] <ub-newb> Cheat codes?  I tried acpi on, acpci off
[11:35] <Jowi> dawid: nope. xgl on dapper can
[11:35] <ub-newb> 2nd time with failing laptop, grub reports error 25
[11:35] <ubuntu_rules> !ops
[11:35] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:35] <damaster> hi
[11:35] <zezu> i thought ubuntu used /media/cdwriter ?
[11:35] <nickrud> dumb me
[11:35] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: eh?
[11:36] <zezu> where is my dvd burner so i can pass it to cdrecord directly ?
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> looking for an op
[11:36] <zezu> this gui keeps crapping out
[11:36] <nickgarvey> apokryphos: firefox_7 ^
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> you are an op
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> hehehe
[11:36] <theripper> any tutorials for untar and install stuff?
[11:36] <damaster> hi
[11:36] <nickgarvey> !tell theripper about tar
[11:36] <devil> hallo
[11:36] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, would i be out of line to ask someone down the road to hack my box in this room?
[11:36] <zezu> cdwriter?
[11:36] <zezu> anyone?
[11:36] <damaster> devel you talking to me
[11:37] <damaster> devil
[11:37] <dawid> So i will have to wait for the release of ubuntu dapper?
[11:37] <nickgarvey> !tell zezu about k3b
[11:37] <nickgarvey> dawid: or use a beta
[11:37] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: not sure what you mean
[11:37] <Volny> Hello!
[11:37] <dawid> it says due 1 june, is that this year or next?
[11:37] <nickgarvey> (17:34:58) Firefox_7: instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox? -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[11:37] <ub-newb> hello.  Mousepad with my Ubuntu on Dell laptop works for motion.  But tap on pad doesn't yield a left click
[11:37] <apokryphos> dawid: or you can try out the old standard composite extension.
[11:37] <ub-newb> Any good wiki on laptop/mice with ubuntu
[11:37] <zezu> nickgarvey, i'll take a look at it, was just going to use cdrecord, it actually worked last time anyways
[11:37] <apokryphos> nickgarvey: ?
[11:37] <Volny> What programs comes with the standard unbuntu release?
[11:38] <damaster> hi hi
[11:38] <steveire> hi
[11:38] <nickgarvey> apokryphos: seems like thats what he wanted the op for, I don't know what it is
[11:38] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, i am installing a logger right now, and i have heard the best way to avoid being hacked is to ask someone to hack your box so you can see how they got in and fix the hole
[11:38] <apokryphos> nickgarvey: sure, nevermind.
[11:38] <UbuntuNewbie> can someone help me with my browser problem.  (getting pages is very very very slow)
[11:38] <dawid> mm they all sound risky... Since i don't really have the time for 2 much screwing around ill wait till summer holidays to do this
[11:38] <dawid> whether i go for dapper or old standard
[11:38] <YouCeyE> how easy is it to change static ip?  if i just change /etc/network/interfaces and do ifup and ifdown in sequence, will that be suffice?
[11:38] <Volny> What programs comes with the standard unbuntu release?
[11:38] <theripper> this linux stuff is crazy ,but i like it , thanks for the tar info
[11:38] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: perhaps. If you have a standard linux setup you're more or less fine. I leave the worrying to the paranoid 8)
[11:38] <nickrud> dawid, it's not very polished anyway :)
[11:38] <damaster> steveire hi
[11:39] <apokryphos> Volny: distrowatch has a decent overview
[11:39] <dawid> But i tell you what, the snapshot looks much better than what vista can/will offer
[11:39] <ompaul> Volny, read them here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:39] <kbrooks> Volny: "ubuntu". a lot. e.g. a irc client
[11:39] <Volny> thanks!
[11:39] <ompaul> };->
[11:39] <steveire> I'm looking for help to damaster. Do you live by your nick?
[11:39] <dawid> Hey thanks guys, any ideas on something to install?
[11:39] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, i dont want to get banned for asking...  but i am going to be starting a small company running linux and i want to know about the security holes before i get to that point...  lol
[11:40] <dawid> perhaps there is a cool free open source game i dont know about (yes i have cube)
[11:40] <nickrud> frozenbubble
[11:40] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: asking for someone to hack you? Erm...
[11:40] <YouCeyE> how easy is it to change static ip?  if i just change /etc/network/interfaces and do ifup and ifdown in sequence, will that be suffice?
[11:40] <nickgarvey> don't do it dawid!
[11:40] <nickgarvey> dawid: once you do frozenbubble you don't come back!
[11:40] <nickgarvey> I was in rehab for monthns
[11:40] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: if you change it appropriately, yes.
[11:40] <dawid> frozenbuble?
[11:40] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, not at the moment
[11:40] <ubuntu_rules> but yeah
[11:40] <ompaul> nickgarvey, years in my case
[11:40] <nickrud> YouCeyE, yes, you might need to edit /etc/resolv.conf as well
[11:40] <PwcrLinux> Im back
[11:40] <YouCeyE> nickrud, ic..
[11:40] <nickrud> I went cold turkey
[11:41] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: you wont' get a response, and the best way to find out about any vulnerabilities is to search google.
[11:41] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: I don't think you'll need to... I've done it in the past and it was just fine :)
[11:41] <ubuntu_rules> ok
[11:41] <red_Marvin> hi
[11:41] <jake1> wowzers
[11:41] <jake1> someone did it
[11:41] <YouCeyE> apokryphos, can i do that from ssh client?
[11:41] <PwcrLinux> Im back :)
[11:41] <duelboot> sh4d0x, I'm back...check pm
[11:41] <jake1> got HL2 and WinXP running on Mac
[11:41] <YouCeyE> will my connection be lost?
[11:41] <intelikey> howto  force "volume icons" to NOT appear on the desktop in 'nome ?
[11:41] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: also, please only use the !op call when there's an abusive poster of s ome kind in the channel. Any other use is a  misuse :)
[11:42] <dawid> hey linux has only just started taking off don't you guys think?
[11:42] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: yes
[11:42] <UbuntuNewbie> staring and waiting for www.apple.com to display at my browser
[11:42] <ubuntu_rules> kk...  sorry
[11:42] <Firefox_7> instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download free Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm
[11:42] <apokryphos> dawid: it's been very gradual.
[11:42] <apokryphos> hm
[11:42] <kbrooks> !ops
[11:42] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:42] <ubuntu_rules> ...
[11:42] <dawid> I mean i bet in 2 years time my mom will be able to install and use the latest ubuntu distro
[11:42] <YouCeyE> apokryphos, i dont need to do entire /etc/init.d/networking restart right?
[11:42] <intelikey> can not delete them. so how to perminantly remove them from the desktop ?
[11:42] <kbrooks> CALLING ALL OPS
[11:42] <YouCeyE> just for ip change?
[11:42] <apokryphos> kbrooks: I'm here already :)
[11:43] <mwe> isn't ntop supposed to work like top from the command line, as well as providing the web interface?
[11:43] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: well, yes
[11:43] <UbuntuNewbie> its still not done rendering the page
[11:43] <YouCeyE> apokryphos, hmm.. whats the use of ifup and down then
[11:43] <ubuntu_rules> cronjobs? isnt that scheduled execution of scripts or something?
[11:44] <wastrel> UbuntuNewbie:  you're using firefox 1.5?
[11:44] <apokryphos> YouCeyE: to restart the network to start yourself off with the different IP
[11:44] <wastrel> !tell UbuntuNewbie about ff1.5
[11:44] <PwcrLinux> cya later, I'll come back later to check thoroapua in there in the evening or later..
[11:44] <steveire> I'm trying to install php and mySQL.
[11:44] <nickgarvey> !lamp
[11:44] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:44] <steveire> using adept to search for either gives many results.
[11:44] <UbuntuNewbie> no, it is browser problem
[11:44] <steveire> What do I have to install?
[11:45] <william> Does Linux support a second monitor like windows?
[11:45] <iceman> how to install a program ....
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> There
[11:45] <apokryphos> steveire: /msg ubotu mysql, /msg ubotu php
[11:45] <nickrud> steveire, look up at !lamp
[11:45] <nickgarvey> steveire: go ther eand just do the sql and php
[11:45] <ShdwShinobi> Can anyone help me with getting my wireless card to work?
[11:45] <ubuntu_rules> iceman, what prgm?
[11:45] <pebs> quick list of codec packages for video playback?
[11:45] <ShdwShinobi> says it should work "out of the box"
[11:45] <iceman> crossfire
[11:45] <apokryphos> pebs: /msg ubotu restricted
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> I've filed some stuff on bug 20994, including a large amount of configuration information and some documentation to get a similar LDAP setup in place.
[11:45] <Raul654> Question - by default, does Ubuntu disable remote X window connections?
[11:45] <ubuntu_rules> !crossfire
[11:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_rules: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  yes.
[11:45] <Raul654> if so, is there a guide to enable them?
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  by default there is NOTHING available outside :)
[11:45] <UbuntuNewbie> wow it took 3 minutes to render the page
[11:45] <apokryphos> Raul654: of course. You'll have to install vnc for them to work
[11:45] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  You want XDMCP or VNC?
[11:45] <william> tonyyarusso, does windows support a second monitor?
[11:46] <pebs> apokryphos, sudo apt-get install ubotu, is thar right?
[11:46] <nickgarvey> XDMCP is good stuf..
[11:46] <Raul654> bluefoxicy - I am not sure
[11:46] <apokryphos> pebs: nope, type /msg ubotu restricted in here :)
[11:46] <ubuntu_rules> idk
[11:46] <wastrel> "hella"
[11:46] <Raul654> Bluefoxicy - is one better than the other?
[11:46] <intelikey> Raul654 system > admin > login
[11:46] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  XDMCP lets GDM pop up a chooser where you put in an IP address and it lets you log in like you're sitting at the console
[11:46] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  VNC you can use with "remote desktop" (vino) in Gnome to have your current log-in session remotely vnc-able.
[11:46] <UbuntuNewbie> can someone tell me what program to use to autodect my ethernet card
[11:46] <ub-newb> from ubuntu, trying to connect GAIM to a valid yahoo account, that worked with yahoo messenger 5 minutes ago
[11:47] <nickgarvey> Raul654: XDMCP is a tad tricky to get going on widows but works like a charm with my laptop
[11:47] <pebs> apokryphos, thnx
[11:47] <intelikey> howto  force "volume icons" to NOT appear on the desktop in 'nome ?
[11:47] <ub-newb> reports "invalid credentials".
[11:47] <intelikey> can not delete them. so how to perminantly remove them from the desktop ?
[11:47] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  it depends on your needs.  XDMCP is more a remote log-in tool, VNC is more bandwidth intensive and requires you log in locally first.
[11:47] <iceman> dang no c compiler installed
[11:47] <wastrel> iceman:  install the build-essential package
[11:47] <apokryphos> iceman: install build-essential
[11:47] <keithhhhhhhhh> a
[11:47] <Raul654> I just need to be able to run emacs from a remonate connection
[11:47] <iceman> how ?
[11:47] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  oh.. emacs is console though
[11:47] <wastrel> Raul654:  ssh :]
[11:47] <UbuntuNewbie> i don't want to reinstall Ubuntu
[11:47] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  you could just install openssh-server
[11:47] <dawid> wow this xgl dapper is so cool its like mac but on linux... its going 2 own!!!
[11:47] <intelikey> !tell iceman about b-e
[11:48] <TruckerMan> nickgarvey, apokryphos; aptitude is cool, but searching with / isnt giving me any thing on xmms, any ideas?
[11:48] <Raul654> (one moment please)
[11:48] <apokryphos> ubuntu_rules: there are far more knowledgable users in this channel :)
[11:48] <kbrooks> dawid: yes.
[11:48] <ompaul> dawid, please talk about #ubuntu+1 where dapper is the conversation of the day here is for stable releases
[11:48] <kbrooks> dawid: except the 4 cubes are workspaces
[11:48] <iceman> ty very much
[11:48] <wsjunior> why totem, rhythmbox and banshee don't have a stop button?
[11:48] <apokryphos> TruckerMan: use it like aptitude install applicationx etc etc. man aptitude
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  pause?
[11:48] <ubuntu_rules> apokryphos, so? i dont want to be as smart as them...  i wanna be as smart as you...
[11:48] <ubuntu_rules> lol
[11:48] <dawid> sorry ompaul..
[11:48] <bluefoxicy> actually rhythmbox is odd :)
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> once in a while the pause button turns into a stop button.
[11:49] <kingspawn> ubuntu_rules: you will be, just relax :)
[11:49] <ompaul> dawid, not something for sorrow :)
[11:49] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, why there isnt a stop?
[11:49] <Volny> ompaul do all the programs in the lists there come woth the 600mb ubuntu CD?`
[11:49] <TruckerMan> rythmbox is supposed to be an itunes clone?
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  because pausing something stops it :P
[11:49] <wsjunior> not really..
[11:49] <nickgarvey> !tell truckerman about itunes
[11:49] <Raul654> anyway
[11:49] <ompaul> Volny, I have not checked but I imagine if not you can install them in seconds let me look
[11:49] <Raul654> I have openssh-server installed
[11:49] <dawid> is there anyway to have applications remember the last directory i saved something in?
[11:50] <ub-newb> Is live CD "Warty" a good or bad place to start?
[11:50] <Volny> ompaul ok, do all the "dapper", "breezy", warty, hoary.... comes with?
[11:50] <iceman> there is a lot of learning involved in LINUX .... but Ubuntu does try the KISS rule ... "Keep" "It" "Simple" "Stupid" ...."K.I.S.S."
[11:50] <wastrel> i'm cold.
[11:50] <Cooner750> Where do I put fonts?
[11:50] <Jowi> ub-newb: Warty is pretty old. Breezy would be better
[11:50] <Raul654> anyway, I simply need to be able to run graphical applications from a remoate machine
[11:51] <ompaul> Volny, when you look at the actual groupings and you see universe they are not on the CD they just could not fit on the CD
[11:51] <nickrud> !tell Cooner750 about fonts
[11:51] <steveire> thanks for the lamp info
[11:51] <ub-newb> Jowi: Thanks, I will go and download.
[11:51] <Jowi> Cooner750: /home/user/.fonts
[11:51] <ompaul> Volny, but if you enable repos they are downloadable seconds later
[11:51] <Volny> ompaul so what is in the cd? I am downloading ubuntu now and never used it before...
[11:51] <Jowi> ub-newb: Warty is previous version. Breezy is the current. and Dapper is the upcoming one.
[11:51] <ub-newb> Jowi: With a LIve CD, will I be able to install packages for practice
[11:51] <ompaul> the ones not marked with universe
[11:52] <Volny> ok
[11:52] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, there's a diff when u stop some video and when u pause it.. when u pause it stop it that part playing atm, when u stop it closes the execution and back to the beging of the video... just wondering why players like banshee and rhythmbox don't have this feature..
[11:52] <Jowi> ub-newb: i wouldn't know.
[11:52] <ompaul> Volny, got yourself broad band?
[11:52] <Volny> ompaul yes
[11:52] <ompaul> Volny, so then you want to read the next link before you do anything before you start using the box (imho)
[11:52] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  because they have a rewind button.
[11:52] <ompaul> !tell Volny about repos
[11:52] <Volny> I have no problems with downloading, though I think I will have problems understanding how to do everything thats why I am asking :)
[11:53] <ompaul> Volny, read the message from the bot
[11:53] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  when you press stop on a vcr it doesn't go back to the beginning.
[11:53] <ompaul> cafuego, u about?
[11:54] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, u dont understand.. forget it..
[11:54] <sovieticool> i try to install flash plugin but i don't have any luck :((
[11:54] <sovieticool> can help me somebody ?
[11:54] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  there is no stop button for the same reason there is no fast forward button.
[11:54] <eric> anyone know where to get templates for openoffice for calendars?
[11:55] <nickgarvey> !Tell sovieticool about easyubuntu
[11:55] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, look at mplayer u'll understando what i'm talking about.
[11:55] <Volny> ompaul is there an easy way to get something like VNC to be able to let some1 good at it help me configure things?
[11:55] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  I know what a stop button is.  It clicks "pause" and then seeks to 0:00 for you in one click.
[11:56] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  As opposed to clicking "pause" and then hitting the back button to seek to 0:00
[11:56] <bluefoxicy> wsjunior:  there is no stop button for the same reason there is no fast forward button:  all the functionality is easily at hand
[11:56] <ompaul> Volny, there is tight vnc
[11:56] <ompaul> Volny, but better if you learn yourself
[11:57] <Volny> ompaul easy to learn when some1 show you :)
[11:57] <wsjunior> bluefoxicy, hehe. that's ok. just forget about it.
[11:57] <vegeta_> hi
[11:57] <bobbyd> hi
[11:57] <eternex> hello
[11:57] <ompaul> Volny, we do not suggest you open your machine to those other than those you know - if your doing that you are opening yourself to real trouble
[11:57] <bobbyd> how can I make apt-get ignore a package?
[11:58] <keithhhhhhhhh> does anyone know how to temporarily remove GRUB Im trying to reinstall windows XP into a partition
[11:58] <Kolan> hi, how can I install an older version of a package?
[11:58] <bobbyd> I have something that's broken but I want to keep it
[11:58] <Volny> ompaul ok, in windows that is not a risk, but I guess linux is a bit more advanced
[11:58] <majd> Hey, i made a shortcut to a program in my menu, i set it to run the following comman in the terminal : cd /usr/local/Zend/ZendStudioClient-5.1.0/bin/ && sudo ./ZDE
[11:58] <ompaul> Volny, no, allowing anyone access to your machine is a risk, period, no matter what o/s
[11:58] <majd> when i click on it, it prompts me for the password in the terminal but nothing happens
[11:59] <ompaul> Volny, it is a matter of trust level
[11:59] <majd> when i copy-paste that same comman into the terminal and run it directly there, it works
[11:59] <Volny> ompaul ofcourse I do not let them have acess while I am not watching
[11:59] <keithhhhhhhhh> Does anyone know how to remove GRUB?
[11:59] <Volny> and if they do anythign I can stop it...
[11:59] <Jowi> keithhhhhhhhh: if you installed grub into MBR then windows install will probably write it over with its own bootmanager there.
[11:59] <Cooner750> Why does nothing show up on the Volume Monitor when playing MP3s? I've got it to work before..
[11:59] <bobbyd> Kolan: you can do that in properties in the synaptic package amanger
[12:00] <DaS> Hi gang
[12:00] <keithhhhhhhhh> Jowi unfortunately I wasnt that lucky


[21:01] <ChaiTRex> marvin3: I'm not sure of how exactly you'd use it for that, but `man rename` should help.
[21:01] <sipior> nicomachus: they seem to have a config file you can feed to network manager
[21:02] <k1l> marvin3: no, that doesnt work
[21:07] <nicomachus> sipior: that's how I set it up. I think the issue might be ipv6 leaking. sound plausible?
[21:07] <Keamy> cheers
[21:07] <Keamy> i need some help
[21:08] <Bashing-om> !ask | Keamy
[21:09] <ChaiTRex> marvin3: Looks like: rename 's/basename\./differentbasename./' *
[21:09] <ChaiTRex> marvin3: But test that out first on a copy of the files in a scratch directory.
[21:09] <boubl> Hello
[21:09] <Keamy> well then thanks.
[21:10] <Keamy> hello boubl
[21:10] <boubl> So I installed Ubuntu 16.04 yesterday and I'm finding that today after returning home I cannot log in and ubuntu cannot detect my display settings
[21:11] <boubl> I'm not in non-graphical mode, how can i connect to my wireless network in order to install tdm?
[21:11] <boubl> now in*
[21:14] <Keamy> well my problem is appearing during the installation of ubuntu on my computer. i have a windows 7 laptop, not in its best condition but working. unfortunally windows doesn't work at all,won't even load until login. but i can access all my files using a bootable usb with a linux dist on it. now i want to install ubunto on my computer. i downloaded ubuntu desktop amd64 and installed it on a usb with unetbootin
[21:14] <Keamy> or what its called. but after booting it, it gave me error warnings right away and didnt even let me reach the installation process. same prob with a dvd.
[21:14] <ChaiTRex> boubl: First, find out your wireless device by typing `iwlist ', then pressing Tab twice to get the interface name.
[21:15] <ChaiTRex> boubl: Then, try something here: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=connect+to+wifi+command+line+ubuntu replacing wlan0 with the proper interface name.
[21:15] <boubl> I already have the device name, I probably should've mentioned that
[21:15] <boubl> it's wlx502b73dc1709
[21:16] <ChaiTRex> boubl: This looks good: http://askubuntu.com/a/461831/616451
[21:16] <boubl> Ah, thanks. I never found that one before!
[21:16] <ChaiTRex> boubl: You're welcome.
[21:16] <boubl> I'll see if it works and report back if there are any issues
[21:19] <ChaiTRex> Keamy: The first thing to try is a RAM test. Use memtest86+ (available, I think, on an Ubuntu install DVD/USB drive) and let it run for several hours to see if you get any errors. The second thing to test is the hard drive. Choose to try Ubuntu without installing it from an install DVD/USB drive, run gnome-disks (Disks application), hamburger menu, SMART, do a long test.
[21:19] <ChaiTRex> Keamy: If the RAM or hard drive are bad, replace and try installing again.
[21:20] <boubl> Alright, thanks again. By the way, could my Nvidia Driver be the cause behind why I am unable to log in on ubuntu?
[21:20] <ChaiTRex> Keamy: If you can't get to either test, I'm not sure what I'd do then.
[21:21] <ChaiTRex> boubl: It's sometimes that.
[21:21] <ChaiTRex> boubl: What happens when you try to log in at the GUI (or does it not let you try)?
[21:21] <k1l> boubl: yes. what happend before you cant login?
[21:23] <boubl> It gets stuck in a loop and sends me back to log in, occasionally it does allow me to log in and then proceeds to say that I have to set my display settings manually
[21:23] <boubl> however I have no control and have to reset my system
[21:24] <boubl> also, I reinstalled gdm and that hasn't fixed anything
[21:24] <ChaiTRex> boubl: Here's the main Ask Ubuntu question for that problem if reinstalling or switching the drivers or whatever doesn't work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[21:24] <k1l> boubl: did you just install the nvidia driver? was there an issue?
[21:25] <k1l> boubl: there are several possible issues, depending on what you did before. that is why i asked
[21:25] <boubl> I'm back in non-graphical mode, are there any steps I should take to troubleshoot the problem?
[21:26] <ChaiTRex> boubl: What were the things you were doing shortly before it broke? Did you change graphics drivers? Did you update your system? Did you use sudo with a GUI application?
[21:27] <boubl> I was installing the wine windows layer last night, along with vlc.
[21:27] <boubl> I also installed my driver from a binary I downloaded off the Nvidia Website, if that helps any
[21:28] <k1l> why that?
[21:28] <k1l> ubuntu ships nvidia drivers in the repos
[21:28] <boubl> Yeah, I forgot about that, I only realized aftewards
[21:29] <ChaiTRex> Yeah, always check the repos, since the software there is fixed to more likely work on Ubuntu, plus you get easy upgrades and bug fixes with "apt update; apt full-upgrade".
[21:29] <boubl> Ah, okay
[21:29] <boubl> Is there a way to uninstall the nvidia driver then?
[21:30] <k1l> boubl: sudo apt purge nvidia*
[21:30] <ChaiTRex> Oh, plus uninstall is easy ;)
[21:31] <boubl> I tried purgng it and I got "Package 'nvidia' is not installed so not removed"
[21:31] <ChaiTRex> If that doesn't work, http://askubuntu.com/a/729987/616451 is telling me `sudo nvidia-uninstall`
[21:31] <boubl> Wait, nevermind
[21:31] <boubl> I got it
[21:32] <boubl> I'm rebooting now
[21:33] <boubl> Okay, nevermind. I think my powersupply just went kaput .-.
[21:34] <Keamy> well my problem is appearing during the installation of ubuntu on my computer. i have a windows 7 laptop, not in its best condition but working. unfortunally windows doesn't work at all,won't even load until login. but i can access all my files using a bootable usb with a linux dist on it. now i want to install ubunto on my computer. i downloaded ubuntu desktop amd64 and installed it on a usb with unetbootin
[21:34] <Keamy> or what its called. but after booting it, it gave me error warnings right away and didnt even let me reach the installation process. same prob with a dvd.
[21:35] <ChaiTRex> boubl: That's too bad. Hopefully it's something nonpermanent.
[21:35] <boubl> Yeah, I have spare here but it's only 200 watts
[21:48] <moody> Hello... I have a Belkin Wireless G USB Network Adapter that worked fine out-of-the-box on my Ubuntu 16.04 install. I just did a clean install of 17.04, and now it won't work right. When I plug it in, I see the wireless icon in the taskbar, and I can click to connect to my router, but it doesn't connect... it spins for a minute or so,then fails to connect. The adapter is a Belkin F5D7050. Any ideas?
[21:49] <xangua> !17.04 | moody
[21:50] <boze> I got a set of bluetooth headphones and a bluetooth dongle. Pairing the headphones went smoothly, but it doesn't come up as an output option under sound settings
[21:54] <fralmeida> ola
[22:00] <tytan> UNITY rulez
[22:01] <tytan> jk KDE Plasma 5 is better >:D
[22:02] <k1l> thanks for your opinion, we focus on technical support in here.
[22:02] <brian_> Anyone use mumble?
[22:02] <tgm4883> !ask | brian_
[22:02] <k1l> brian_: some do, some dont
[22:04] <azizLIGHT> something is creating 3mb files named clipboardcache, clipboardcache-1, clipboardcache-2 ... clipboardcache-200 and more. what is it and why
[22:04] <azizLIGHT> its in my /tmp
[22:05] <azizLIGHT> i have 700mb+ of clipboardcache files in /tmp
[22:05] <k1l> azizLIGHT: what desktop is in use?
[22:07] <azizLIGHT> ubuntu unity
[22:07] <azizLIGHT> 14.04
[22:07] <ChaiTRex> azizLIGHT: You can try `fuser filename`
[22:07] <k1l> using firefox?
[22:07] <azizLIGHT> k1l: yes
[22:08] <Landeskog> what else could be stopping incoming connections   i set up openssh for port 22 on my home box   i  can ssh localhost from it fine   i enabled ufw and added the allow ssh      i cant connect from my android and remote port scan sites from google are saying filtered no reply
[22:08] <ChaiTRex> Landeskog: Have you port forwarded it on your router?
[22:08] <k1l> looks like firefox is making them
[22:08] <minimec> azizLIGHT: Did you import your bookmarks? There is a post on fedoraforum... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=214318
[22:08] <azizLIGHT> interesting
[22:09] <OerHeks> azizLIGHT, seen that before on encrypted systems with firefox, or tor browser, those clipboardcache don't get deleted
[22:09] <azizLIGHT> minimec: i did, in fact
[22:09] <minimec> azizLIGHT: Just delete the files and you are good... ;)
[22:10] <azizLIGHT> cool, good to know. i thought it was nautilus related
[22:10] <azizLIGHT> or maybe notepadqq related, with large file copy pasting
[22:11] <azizLIGHT> different question now
[22:12] <azizLIGHT> how many steps are in this process and when will it all finish :/ https://paste.linux.community/view/1a18f75b
[22:12] <azizLIGHT> drive is 4tb
[22:12] <azizLIGHT> is the time elapsed for all steps in total, or just that one step
[22:13] <azizLIGHT> i believe the % shown is for just that step
[22:16] <israphial> Hello. Using Ubuntu 16.04 (Unity). So, I've used Unity Tweak tool and Compiz to try and make my Panel completely transparent (the bar itself, not the icons within it) but it has a habit of randomly turning opaque again even after I readjust the options to make it completely transparent. I'm not sure why it's doing this and I would greatly appreciate any help.
[22:20] <israphial> In Compiz manager, panel opacity is set to 0.0000 and the background color has opacity set to 1 (which is the method used to make it completely trasparent), however even after readjusting and fixing BOTH of these values, it won't go completely transparent like it's supposed to. I don't know what the deal is all of a sudden.
[22:21] <israphial> Even if someone could tell me where the config file for the panel is located, that would be a huge help.
[22:21] <ChaiTRex> israphial: It's probably in gsettings or something.
[22:23] <isr> I just randomly disconnected lol. If anyone answered my question, could you please copy paste it again? I'm israphial.
[22:24] <ChaiTRex> isr: It's probably in gsettings or something.
[22:24] <isr> gsettings?
[22:25] <azizLIGHT> israphial: when u say all of a sudden, it worked ok before?
[22:25] <azizLIGHT> oh
[22:26] <azizLIGHT> ok
[22:26] <isr> Yes, as far as I noticed it did.
[22:26] <azizLIGHT> did you update graphics
[22:26] <Landeskog> ChaiTRex:    yeah i followed instructions on portforward.com
[22:26] <azizLIGHT> since when it worked ok
[22:26] <isr> I'm wondering if compiz's settings don't carry over boots or something...?
[22:26] <ChaiTRex> isr: Yes, it stors settings for a lot of things.
[22:26] <isr> No, no recent updates.
[22:26] <Landeskog> still somthing is blocking incoming on22
[22:27] <ChaiTRex> isr: Perhaps `gsettings list org.compiz.unityshell:/` to see various options
[22:27] <ChaiTRex> isr: Perhaps launcher-opacity or panel-opacity under that.
[22:28] <isr> I've never used gsettings, I have no idea what that is. I did gsettings list org.compiz.unityshell/ and it returned a syntax error.
[22:28] <ChaiTRex> isr: You need the colon.
[22:29] <isr> Oh, I didn't see that there lol
[22:29] <ChaiTRex> isr: You can see the current value of, say launcher-opacity, with: gsettings get org.compiz.unityshell:/ launcher-opacity
[22:29] <ChaiTRex> isr: See if that changes when you change the opacity
[22:29] <azizLIGHT> isr: whenever i update my grpahics, unity tweak tool has a heart attack and crashes unity for me. so everytime i upgrade graphics drivers, i have done: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && dpkg-reconfigure unity-tweak-tool
[22:29] <isr> Still didn't work. @ChaiTRex
[22:29] <isr> Ok I ran that and it is showing opacity.
[22:30] <azizLIGHT> gsettings is like, if youre familiar with windows, like the registry editor lol
[22:30] <ChaiTRex> isr: Now change the opacity and run it again
[22:30] <isr> It returned a number of 0.6 (repeating). So something overwrote my settings.
[22:30] <ChaiTRex> isr: We don't yet know if that's the right setting.
[22:30] <ChaiTRex> isr: You have to change the setting and see if the gsettings get shows the change.
[22:30] <Landeskog> Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 0.27 seconds
[22:30] <Landeskog>            Raw packets sent: 4 (152B) | Rcvd: 0 (0B)
[22:31] <isr> Ok, hold.
[22:31] <isr> It did change the number, however it changed it in a weird way.
[22:31] <isr> So, before I changed anything in compiz, the number was...
[22:32] <isr> 0.66669999999999996
[22:32] <isr> after changing opacity in compiz to 1, the number changed to...
[22:33] <isr> Sorry, had a derp. The number did not change.
[22:33] <ChaiTRex> OK, try the following: gsettings monitor org.compiz.unityshell:/
[22:33] <isr> Before and after changing in compiz, the number is 0.66669999999999996.
[22:33] <ChaiTRex> That will show changes as they happen.
[22:33] <ChaiTRex> Perhaps another value will change
[22:33] <ChaiTRex> Run that, change the slider or whatever, watch what happens in the terminal.
[22:33] <isr> K now you want me to mess with stuff?
[22:33] <isr> ok
[22:34] <isr> Messing with both of the settings did not make anything appear in the terminal.
[22:34] <isr> I changed the opacity in panel opacity, then changed the opacity in background panel color. Neither caused a change in my terminal.
[22:35] <shadygoose> My hp spectre x360 has driver issues running 16.10/16.04. Thought of trying out Fedora 25 because of the newer kernel. Is it worth a shot?
[22:35] <isr> So is there a way to change that 0.66669999999999996 number? Like a gsettings command I can run?
[22:35] <isr> @ChaiTRex,
[22:36] <ChaiTRex> isr: Only if you can find the value that changes.
[22:36] <isr> well the value appears to be called launcher-opacity.
[22:37] <isr> So can we run something like... gsettings edit org.compiz.unityshell:/ 0.0 ? @ChaiTRex
[22:37] <ChaiTRex> isr: Found it.
[22:37] <ChaiTRex> isr: gsettings get org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/ launcher-opacity
[22:37] <ChaiTRex> isr: From http://askubuntu.com/a/204240/616451
[22:37] <isr> It returned a number. 0.0
[22:38] <ChaiTRex> isr: You can set it to transparent with: gsettings set org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/ launcher-opacity 0
[22:39] <isr> Did nothing.
[22:39] <isr> The panel is still dark translucent.
[22:40] <ChaiTRex> isr: By the panel, you mean on the left?
[22:40] <Nobabs27> ok
[22:40] <isr> idk if it's on the left by default but mine is on the top. It has the power button, time, wifi icon, etc. on it. It's a bar.
[22:40] <isr> It's called the panel.
[22:40] <isr> @ChaiTRex
[22:41] <ChaiTRex> isr: Ahh, OK. One moment.
[22:41] <Nobabs27> ok
[22:41] <isr> Thank you for helping me by the way ChaiTRex.
[22:42] <isr> If you can figure out where the config file for this thing is, I can mess with it until I get it fully transparent, but my google searches have been so far useless. I just turn up stuff that either don't answer the question or aren't actually relevant to the question
[22:42] <ChaiTRex> isr: You're welcome. Here's for the notification bar at the top: gsettings set org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/ panel-opacity 0
[22:42] <isr> That also did nothing.
[22:43] <ChaiTRex> isr: Sorry, not sure then.
[22:43] <isr> let me try sudoing it.
[22:43] <isr> Didn't make a difference. @ChaiTRex
[22:43] <isr> Weird huh?
[22:44] <ChaiTRex> isr: Yes, it seems odd.
[22:52] <menace> it would be pretty awesome if ubuntu could integrate seamless running of android apps *sigh* that would solve so many application problems...
[22:53] <nacc> !ot | menace
[22:53] <menace> sorry =|
[23:14] <hfp> Hey, is 17.04 out yet? If not, when is it due? I thought it was 9-apr
[23:15] <k1l> hfp: 13.04.2017
[23:17] <hfp> Oh I thought it was due on the nineth. My bad
[23:17] <k1l> np
[23:21] <Lutenist> so I switched from fedora to ubuntu gnome, and my touch screen stopped working! I checked xinput but there's no mention of a touchscreen anywher
[23:23] <Lutenist> tried to go through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen but it doesn't seem to be any help
[23:23] <Lutenist> the screen /dev/ttySx input does not do anything for me unfortunately
[23:24] <elisa871> please have a look at my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/903382/creating-directory-for-group-of-files-that-have-a-common-string-in-their-names
[23:25] <OerHeks> elisa, simple, select the 1st, hold shift and use arrow down
[23:25] <OerHeks> copy bla bla done
[23:25] <felyeni> Hola
[23:26] <elisa871> OerHeks: I want to do so using bash. It is like 30000 files!
[23:26] <nacc> elisa871: right so ask in a bash channel?
[23:26] <elisa871> I did so
[23:26] <nacc> elisa871: you see to do this quite often -- ask a question on AU and then ask here
[23:26] <nacc> elisa871: i don't undrestand the point of doing both every time
[23:27] <nacc> elisa871: then be patient
[23:27] <nacc> elisa871: it's not a support question
[23:27] <hfp> In GNOME-terminal, URLs are highlighted but to open them I have to right click and select "Open link". Is there a way to click them (maybe along with a modifier key) to open them in one click?
[23:27] <nacc> hfp: ctrl + click iirc
[23:28] <OerHeks> cp frame1* /newdir
[23:34] <OerHeks> hfp, hold shift while clicking the url ??
[23:35] <cookiemunga> I would like to create a bunch of light weight virtual machines and run them on ubuntu.  I would also like to create a local mirror of packages; but I don't want to create a "full archive" of packages.
[23:36] <cookiemunga> I see apt-mirror; and I see that I can point it to things and download things; but what I need is just a "snapshot" of the current packages in a repository and what will "just work"; I'm not concerned with updates at this time.
[23:37] <nacc> cookiemunga: can you clarify (in order to understand better) why you are not concerned with updated?
[23:37] <cookiemunga> Is there "one cohesive" document that describes how to do this?  I can read things from multiple sources.  It just seems like something somebody has probably put together in the past
[23:37] <cookiemunga> nacc: The machines I will be installing this on do not have an internet connection.
[23:38] <cookiemunga> So, I need to mirror a repository, then transfer the packages.
[23:38] <tgm4883> cookiemunga: a "snapshot" of the archive would be done with apt-mirror
[23:38] <OerHeks>  apt-cacher only stores the packages you have installed before, iirc
[23:38] <cookiemunga> OK.  I don't want "old" packages; but I don't mind getting "everything" that would consist of a "snapshot"
[23:39] <tgm4883> cookiemunga: the network is completely isolated?
[23:39] <cookiemunga> I'll read up on how to do that with apt-mirror.  I'm just trying to save loads of download time (in case apt-mirror decides to download *all the packages* (old ones included) )
[23:39] <cookiemunga> The network doesn't even exist yet.
[23:39] <cookiemunga> This is for a non-profit; they're trying to teach kids "computers"
[23:40] <cookiemunga> I have experience working in large infrastructures, but with network connectivity :)
[23:40] <cookiemunga> I have a bunch of shit desktops I want to install lxde on
[23:40] <tgm4883> cookiemunga: honestly, if it were me I'd probably figure out the packages that they want installed and use !offline to get them
[23:40] <cookiemunga> and then have their home directories mount an NFS share
[23:41] <nacc> !offline | cookiemunga
[23:42] <cookiemunga> OK; so, long story short; I'll read the docs.
[23:44] <k12> I forgot my password. How do I reset it without having the root account active?
[23:45] <tgm4883> !password | k12
[23:47] <cookiemunga> This seems to be precicesly what I want:
[23:47] <cookiemunga> http://askubuntu.com/questions/531403/how-to-download-all-repository-using-apt-get
[23:47] <cookiemunga> It's not quite a "mirror" , but it's close.
[23:49] <hfp> nac, OerHeks: Yes it's Ctrl+click, thanks!
[23:49] <nacc> hfp: yw


[00:03] <Thedarkb> Why isn't lynx in the repo anymore?
[00:04] <wxl> !info lynx
[00:04] <wxl> looks like it is
[00:04] <Thedarkb> hang on
[00:04] <Thedarkb> Oh, I forgot to update.
[00:04] <Thedarkb> I installed all my packages so far with dpkg
[00:05] <Thedarkb> I'm assuming that'll put me on a one way trip to dependency hell?
[00:06]  * wxl shrugs
[00:06] <wxl> i've never tried installing normal packages with dpkg before
[00:06] <wxl> well
[00:06] <Thedarkb> I just installed jwm and an old version of libpng
[00:06] <wxl> i've done it with broadcom drivers
[00:06] <wxl> never had an issue
[00:07] <wxl> generally the only issue is that dpkg won't resolve your depends for you. so if you're going to install something, you have to make sure you install all its dependencies first. which means you have to do your homework.
[00:07] <wxl> apt essentially does all that for you, so it makes life easier, but there's no reason you can't do things the hard way.
[00:08] <wxl> now whether or not you SHOULD or whether or not it makes any sense to do so is an entirely different question.
[00:11] <wxl> 74.2/(48/17)
[00:12] <wxl> oops
[09:42] <egy> Hello all,
[09:44] <egy> Ctrl + ; opens the multi-buffer clipboard, which is really handy and I use it everyday. However, when you copy a text with french characters (é, è, ...etc.), it doesn't paste.
[09:44] <egy> Does anyone know where to report about it ?
 test
[18:47] <redwolf> yup, it works
[18:47] <redwolf> still no answer from Unit193, tsimonq2


[00:53] <treeform> hi all, i am getting problem with the host timing out during cvs imports https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/panda3d/main
[00:54] <treeform> what can i do to fix it?
[00:54] <mwhudson> treeform: oh
[00:54] <mwhudson> sourceforge are blocking some of our imports during a datacentre move
[00:55] <treeform> so they are moving data centers? Do you know when they will be done? Or a way to get around that?
[00:56] <mwhudson> treeform: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/244575
[00:56] <mwhudson> if you can get us a repository tarball we can do the import from taht
[00:56] <mwhudson> (probably... )
[00:58] <treeform> oh who would i give it too? How to make it properly? I only have the checkout not the repo itself.
[01:06] <mwhudson> probably best to ask a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar with the details
[01:06] <mwhudson> i think sf gives you a link to a repository snapshot somewhere...
[01:24] <treeform> mwhudson: how easy what it be to import the cvs myself and upload it to lp.  I could probably just wait till SF moves because i would still would like automatic imports might be hard to set up it any other way.
[01:25] <mwhudson> it wouldn't be at all easy for you to set it up in a way that we could update :/
[01:27] <bdmurray> Why are 957 projects related to me?
[01:31] <jml> bdmurray: I can't say for sure, that's actually 957 questions.
[01:31] <bdmurray> Touche! 957 just seems like a lot to me
[01:32] <jml> bdmurray: I reckon filing a bug on a project will make you "related" to that project.
[01:32] <jml> maybe I'm lying though
[01:32] <jml> bdmurray: looking at my related software page, it shows projects associated with teams I'm a member of.
[01:33]  * jml has never done anything related to "Vimdiff plugin for Bazaar"
[01:35] <jml> bdmurray: so, if you are a member of a big team, you'll get a lot of projects there.
[01:35]  * jml thinks this is a bug. my page is about *me*
[01:49] <Hobbsee> jml: a team you're in has.
[01:49] <Hobbsee> ah, you found it.
[01:49] <jml> :)
[01:49] <jml> Hobbsee: you've seen my bug?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> jml: yes, of course.
[01:50] <Hobbsee> jml: some nitwit decided to subscribe motu to some bugs completely outside of ubuntu, so all of us have apparently contributed to those project.s
[01:50] <Hobbsee> great, isn't it?
[01:51] <jml> Hobbsee: well, like I say in my report, the page should filter on actual contribution.
[01:52] <Hobbsee> jml: still, we're not working on Fooix the Wonder-Toaster anymore, which is disappointing
[01:52] <Hobbsee> jml: what's the link to your report?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> (i don't see that)
[01:52] <jml> Hobbsee: toast is indeed a mighty thing and toasters are its worthy servants
[01:53] <jml> Hobbsee: bug 251670
[01:57] <Hobbsee> jml: ah yes.
[01:57] <Hobbsee> subscribed.
[01:58] <Hobbsee> and i agree on the toast.
[02:01] <Hobbsee> heya thumper
[02:18] <_steven_> How do I import my cvs branch into my launchpad page with all my history (not vcs imports, I want to use launchpad for my code changes from now on)?
[02:22] <beuno> mwhudson, you seem to be popular today  ^   :)
[02:23] <mwhudson> _steven_: well you convert your cvs history to bzr somehow (there are a few ways of doing this if you just want a one-shot conversion)
[02:23] <mwhudson> then you push the branch up to bazaar
[02:23] <mwhudson> then you stop using cvs :)
[02:23] <mwhudson> _steven_: if there's a vcs-imports branch already, just pull that and push it up as ~you/yourproject/trunk
[02:24] <mwhudson> _steven_: and ask us to stop the import
[02:27] <_steven_> mwhudson, I have a vcs imports already. Does a vcs import contain all of the cvs history or only the history after it was created?
[02:27] <mwhudson> _steven_: all history
[02:27] <_steven_> is there any way I can convert that vcs import into a real branch?
[02:28] <mwhudson> (this is why importing some projects for the first time can take a week!)
[02:28] <mwhudson> _steven_: as i already said, yes
 _steven_: if there's a vcs-imports branch already, just pull that and push it up as ~you/yourproject/trunk
[02:28] <mwhudson> though it is already 'real branch' in any meaningful sense :)
[02:29] <_steven_> ok, sorry. Guess the pull/push terminology confused what you meant. Got it now
[02:29] <mwhudson> np
[02:29] <mwhudson> sorry if i was unclear :)
[02:31] <thumper> hi Hobbsee
[02:31]  * thumper goes to caffeinate
[02:31] <_steven_> I miss the old launchpad look :(
[02:32] <thumper> I do too a little
[02:32] <NCommander> _steven_, the new one grown on me :-/
[02:32] <_steven_> menus were a little hard to navigate, but this one is a little plain
[02:32] <_steven_> too much whitespace :)
[02:33] <NCommander> Out of curosity, what does it take for a package to appear under "Maintained Packages"
[02:33] <persia> NCommander: You need to be Maintainer: in debian/control
[02:34] <NCommander> persia, not just Original Maintainer?
[02:34] <Hobbsee> correct.
[02:34] <persia> Nope.  Maintainer.
[02:34] <NCommander> (I'm listed for two packages that I'm just in O-Maintainer)
[02:34]  * persia is baffled, and suspects that is likely broken somehow.
[02:34] <persia> What is your LP id?
[02:34] <NCommander> persia, er, correction, cvsps has MOTU has the maintainer, nrss has local changes I made
[02:34] <NCommander> persia, sonicmctails
[02:35]  * persia hunts for the page
[02:37] <persia> NCommander: You're listed as "Maintainer" for both of those on Hardy (as specified from the /+packages page)
[02:38] <persia> It checks the source package, which for hardy was unmodified for Ubuntu.  The binary packages are automangled, as arbitrary maintainers aren't responsible for Ubuntu buildd issues.
[02:38] <NCommander> Oh, but not in intrepid
[02:38] <NCommander> That makes sense
[02:41] <_steven_> pretty sure I know the answer to this, but is there any way to import bugs from berlios?
[03:03] <NCommander> Is there a RDF structure file I can use when querying against LP's RDF data? (I'm trying to retrieve nicknames and GPG keys from a group, but I can't say I'm having much success)
[03:14] <Hobbsee> come on launchpad...any day now...
[03:14] <Hobbsee> there we are, it loaded.
[04:56] <NCommander> Is there any lag between the time a user updates his GPG keys, and the time it appears on the LP GPG keyserver?
[05:00] <mwhudson> a little perhaps
[05:00] <mwhudson> also keyservers fall over from time to time...
[10:00] <lodder> Hi, Question how can I upload source packages to my PPA?
[10:02] <wgrant> lodder: https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart might help.
[10:02] <lodder> wgrant: I have al ready checked it
[10:03] <lodder> but when I look on my page I don't see anything about it :(
[10:04] <lodder> I have only these options for my PPA:
[10:04] <wgrant> See 'Creating your source package'
[10:06] <lodder> wgrant: yes I found that but It doesn't mention how I can upload it
[10:07] <lodder> wgrant: I have only these options: * View PPA    * Change details    * View build records    * Delete packages    * Copy packages    * Edit dependencies
[10:08] <wgrant> See step 3.
[10:08] <wgrant> I don't see where it mentions clicking anywhere in the web UI.
[10:09] <lodder> wgrant: Ok got it now
[10:09] <lodder> wgrant: thx
[10:12] <lodder> wgrant: The upload I got now still looking for a way to create it ;)
[10:13] <wgrant> Hm?
[10:13] <lodder> wgrant: It's the first time I'm trying to make a source package to upload to ppa
[10:13] <wgrant> Ah.
[10:14] <lodder> wgrant: can you help me in the right way
[10:14] <lodder> wgrant: its a python program
[10:16]  * wgrant is unfortunately a little out of time right now.
[10:17] <lodder> wgrant: ah no problem do you have a bit of a howto I can use?
[10:17] <lodder> or mail it to me
[10:36] <proppy> Hi, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~proppy/txprotobuf/master states the following: Update this branch: bzr push lp:txprotobuf
[10:36] <proppy> however it failed with the following error
[10:36] <proppy> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eproppy/txprotobuf/master/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir(
[10:36] <spiv> proppy: you need to do "bzr launchpad-login YOUR-LAUNCHPAD-LOGIN" first.
[10:39] <proppy> spiv: thanks :)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> hmm it seems you cant even push without using launchpad-login
[11:19] <gnomefreak> is this meant to be like that
[11:20] <gnomefreak> than i get permission denied
[11:21]  * gnomefreak owner of gnomefreak bzr branches :(
[11:22] <gnomefreak> can someone look at this and give me a hint http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499735
[11:24] <gnomefreak> sorry missed part of the paste, this is all of it http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499737
[11:28] <Hobbsee> ooh, wow!  a new box!
[11:28] <Hobbsee> wait, no.  drat.
[11:47] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: Permission denied (publickey).
[11:48] <gnomefreak> it never asked for password
[11:48] <wgrant> Set your username properly, and ensure that you have your SSH key set up...
[11:48] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: could be the publickey it's using doesn't have a passphrase.
[11:48] <wgrant> There are no passwords involved.
[11:48] <gnomefreak> set my username?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak is my user name
[11:49] <wgrant> bzr launchpad-logi
[11:49] <wgrant> *login
[11:49] <gnomefreak> i did
[11:49] <LarstiQ> I think gnomefreak's login is correct.
[11:49] <wgrant> Then try the latter.
[11:49] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/tbird-3.0/work/thunderbird-3.0.head$ bzr launchpad-login gnomefreak
[11:49] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: right, but are you using the correct key?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> my ssh key was made after all that security stuff
[11:50] <wgrant> Does Launchpad know about it?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: ssh key yes its my only one
[11:50] <gnomefreak> wgrant: its on my LP page
[11:50] <wgrant> gnomefreak: The right one, are you sure?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> wgrant: yes for the most part im sure
[11:50] <wgrant> I would advise being fully sure.
[11:50] <wgrant> As that's the problem.
[11:51] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: and `ssh-add -l` shows the same fingerprint as what LP knows?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> oh i do have 2 but only one for development
[11:51] <gnomefreak> The agent has no identities.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> did i forget to install ssh and bring key over
[11:52] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: so, ssh doesn't know how to find your key. You can ssh-add it yourself, or edit ~/.ssh/config and tell it where it lives
[11:52] <gnomefreak> let me see what i can do ill let you know
[11:52] <LarstiQ> ok.
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ssh-server is no longer a package lol
[11:53] <gnomefreak> forgot open
[11:53] <LarstiQ> openssh-server
[11:53] <LarstiQ> but you don't need that
[11:56] <gnomefreak> still fails
[11:57] <gnomefreak> how do i view what LP has as my fingerprint
[11:57] <gnomefreak> i dont have menus on my LP page
[11:58] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+sshkeys
[11:59] <gnomefreak> 2048 55:5e:c0:06:21:85:74:44:54:76:ed:61:ec:f3:46:e0 isnt the same format to what LP has
[12:00] <gnomefreak> i dont want to make another one
[12:01] <gnomefreak> ok yes its the same
[12:02] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499755
[12:02] <gnomefreak> that is the key
[12:03] <wgrant> Does SSH now know about it?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ha its working now
[12:03] <gnomefreak> wgrant: yeah it does. i had to login again
[12:04] <gnomefreak> how many times do i need to login every session? and why do we have to log in now?
[12:04] <wgrant> Huh?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> why did i have to use bzr launchpad-login gnomefreak 2 times in ame terminal session and why do we even have to log in what happened to just pushing branches?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> its strange to me
[12:06] <wgrant> You only had to do it once.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> no i had to 2 times
[12:06] <wgrant> And so it knows what credentials to use, perhaps!?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> the first time when i found out no ~/.ssh and once after i had set up ~/.ssh
[12:07] <wgrant> I strongly suspect you altered other things which fixed it.
[12:07] <gnomefreak> my ~/.ssh dir is all i did
[12:07] <wgrant> Which is probably what fixed it........
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i never carried it over from usb stick when i installed the last time
[12:08] <gnomefreak> so if you log in and get error you have to login again after you fix it
[12:08] <wgrant> I don't believe so.
[12:09] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: no, I'm certain that is not the case.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499767
[12:09] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: all you had to do was fix ~/.ssh/
[12:09] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: nope see last error and last login on that pastebin
[12:10] <wgrant> That doesn't make sense. The code doesn't work like that...
[12:10] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: you are not showing what you did outside of that.
[12:10] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: suddenly a key turns up?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: only thing i did was move ~/.ssh just before last time it failed to push
[12:10] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: i had it but i forgot to move it back when i installed
[12:11] <gnomefreak> i used gui to move ~/.ssh so i cant show you that but it was before last bzr launchpad-login
[12:12] <LarstiQ> Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
[12:12] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: that is the relevant bit.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> i used it once without a ~/.ssh and once again after i got my ~/.ssh back but you see last permission denied than i loged in and it worked
[12:12] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: i showed you that in this channel
[12:13] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: well, all I can tell you is that 'launchpad-login' does not touch your ssh key at all.
[12:14] <wgrant> The code is quite clear on that.
[12:14] <wgrant> It particularly doesn't make your agent happier.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: that i know i was just wondering why i had to login 2 times
[12:14] <gnomefreak> once before i had an ~/.ssh and once again after
[12:15] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: do you mean run 'bzr launchpad-login' twice? You don't. Or do you mean something else?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> i figured it would have remembered my log in the first time
[12:15] <LarstiQ> it did.
[12:15] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: yes i had to
[12:15] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: really, all the code does is write 'launcpad_username = foo' to the config file. The codepath is the same in all cases.
[12:15]  * LarstiQ gives up.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> well i showed you i had to thought maybe a bug but oh well
[12:16] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: I am 100% sure something else was going on. But if you can reliably reproduce it, I give you my word I will personally fix it.
[12:17] <wgrant> Python does normally do what the code says it should do.
[12:17] <gnomefreak> next time i push
[12:17] <gnomefreak> wgrant: thats where bug comes in
[12:17] <wgrant> Huh?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> that is what  a bug is atleast
[12:17] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: I have debugged publickey issues far too often, and almost always it's user error.
[12:17] <wgrant> I don't know of a Python bug where it will manipulate your SSH agent.
[12:18] <gnomefreak> key was my fault yes that has nothing with what i am talking about
[12:18] <gnomefreak> forget the key
[12:18] <wgrant> '#
[12:18] <wgrant> Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.'
[12:18] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: did you see the message the final failing push put out?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> i had to use launchpad-login once without my ~/.ssh dir
[12:18] <wgrant> That's not something launchpad-login will touch.
[12:18] <gnomefreak> than once again after i added my ~/.ssh
[12:18] <spiv> The errors might be recorded in ~/.bzr.log
[12:18] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: that line means the ssh-agent is aware of the key, but is missing a passphrase
[12:18] <gnomefreak> thats all im saying
[12:19] <gnomefreak> LarstiQ: but didnt i say it didnt give me a chance to type one
[12:19] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: right, I get that. All I am saying is you did something _else_ that fixed it.
[12:19] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: no
[12:19] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: that was for the earlier error.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> 06:47 <         LarstiQ > gnomefreak: Permission denied (publickey).
[12:19] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: are you using an openpgp card by chance?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> 06:48 <      gnomefreak > it never asked for password
[12:20] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: different error.
[12:20] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: in the first case, it didn't even know which key to use.
[12:20] <gnomefreak> fix was to move ~/.ssh off usb key to ~/$HOME
[12:20] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: in the second one, it did, but it couldn't sign with it.
[12:20] <gnomefreak> than i had to login again after i did that
[12:20] <gnomefreak> that makes 2 logins
[12:20] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: yes, and we are telling you, that second login did nothing at all.
[12:21] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: what else did you do between moving ~/.ssh and pushing?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> yes it did if you look i couldnt push until i logged back in
[12:21] <LarstiQ> succesfully that is.
[12:21] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: you admitted the moving was in a gui so not represented in that paste, right?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/499782
[12:22] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: I'm saying something else happened as well, that you may not see as significant, but actually fixed i.t
[12:22] <gnomefreak> there i addded where i added my ~/.ssh
[12:22] <gnomefreak> every command i ran is there only thing outside of it was moving ~/.ssh
[12:22] <LarstiQ> ok.
[12:23] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: well, then we will have to look into when openssh prints the message about failing to sign using the key.
[12:24]  * gnomefreak only cared to let you know i thought there was a bug. but its all good now thank you for the help
[12:24] <LarstiQ> gnomefreak: thanks for the report.
[12:29] <LarstiQ> great, ssh_request_reply does some magic talking to an agent :/
[13:35] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[13:36] <Hobbsee> hey mpt!
[13:36] <mpt> hey hey
[13:47] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Now there are two developers in two days quitting Ubuntu teams citing painful Launchpad U/I in their reasons.
[13:49] <Hobbsee> i did'nt cite *only* the painful UI, fyi.
[13:49] <Hobbsee> but i'm not surprised
[13:49] <ScottK> Right.  That's why I said 'in' not 'as'.
[13:49] <Hobbsee> oh
[15:24] <SURFgijs> Hi people, I get an error when I try to attach a openPGP key to my luanchpad.net account, when I click the confirmation link in my e-mail I get the message "Not allowed here - Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. - You are logged in as Gijs Molenaar."
[15:24] <SURFgijs> any idea? launchpad bug?
[15:26] <Hobbsee> what link are you getting in your email?
[15:27] <SURFgijs> https://launchpad.net/token/HxL119Sp4VJPE1C11CHE
[15:27] <SURFgijs> (modified token for security)
[15:28] <SURFgijs> the mail is encrypted with my public key, that part is working
[15:30] <Hobbsee> strange
[15:30] <SURFgijs> I tried multiple times
[15:32] <salgado> SURFgijs, what's your user ID in LP?
[15:33] <andrea-bs> SURFgijs: is your e-mail address publicly available? I ask this because it may be related to bug #251812
[15:37] <SURFgijs> let me check
[15:37] <SURFgijs> name: gijs-pythonic
[15:37] <SURFgijs> searching for the place where to see if it is public or not....
[15:38] <SURFgijs> "Hide my email addresses from other Launchpad users" ?
[15:38] <SURFgijs> yep
[15:38] <SURFgijs> i'll try again
[15:39] <SURFgijs> I disabled "Hide my email addresses from other Launchpad users" but I still can't access that page
[15:39] <SURFgijs> I'll try to create a new token
[15:40] <salgado> SURFgijs, and what's the fingerprint of the key being added?
[15:40] <SURFgijs> no, doesn't work
[15:40] <SURFgijs> C660 BABA 4B91 4B5C EB60 7739 4385 8ABA 72EE 99CA
[15:46] <salgado> SURFgijs, the error you got is a bug on our side.  there's a way to workaround it, though
[15:46] <salgado> SURFgijs, I see you have another account on LP (gijsmolenaar).  do you want these two separate accounts or would you be able to merge them?
[15:47] <SURFgijs> I forgot about the other one
[15:47] <SURFgijs> gijsmolenaar
[15:47] <SURFgijs> I would like to merge them
[15:47] <SURFgijs> I already filed a bug for this (251400)
[15:48] <salgado> SURFgijs, if you merge them you'll be able to import the GPG key
[15:48] <salgado> SURFgijs, thanks for filing the bug, btw
[15:48] <SURFgijs> how do I merge?
[15:49] <salgado> SURFgijs, there's a link for it under https://launchpad.net/people
[15:50] <SURFgijs> hihi
[15:50] <SURFgijs> when I merge
[15:51] <SURFgijs> I get the same error :)
[15:51] <SURFgijs>        Not allowed here               Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.           You are logged in as Gijs Molenaar.
[15:51] <SURFgijs> 1> I go to: https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[15:51] <SURFgijs> 2> I enter: gijsmolenaar
[15:51] <SURFgijs> 3> error
[15:53] <salgado> that just means one more bug for me to fix
[15:54] <salgado> SURFgijs, hang on and I'll do something so that you can merge
[15:55] <salgado> SURFgijs, it'd be great if you could file a separate bug for this.  and sorry for the trouble
[15:57] <SURFgijs> will do ;)
[15:57] <salgado> SURFgijs, now you can even choose!  both the merge and the key import should work. :)
[15:59] <SURFgijs> should I still file a bug?
[16:00] <salgado> SURFgijs, please do.  other people may encounter it
[16:00] <salgado> and I didn't (yet) actually fix the code
[16:01] <SURFgijs> #251869
[16:01] <SURFgijs> I still get the error when merging
[16:02] <SURFgijs> and key confirm also :)
[16:06] <SURFgijs> I need to leave
[16:06] <SURFgijs> please update the bug ticket if there is any development in this issue
[16:07] <salgado> SURFgijs, should be good now
[16:07] <SURFgijs> because now I can't work with my PPA :)
[16:07] <SURFgijs> confirmed :)
[16:07] <salgado> I asked for a change to be done so that you could merge, but the change failed in the first attempt.
[16:07] <salgado> SURFgijs, cool
[16:10] <SURFgijs> ok, maybe a bug or not
[16:10] <SURFgijs> when I try to merge
[16:11] <SURFgijs> An email message was sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>    Please follow the instructions on that message to complete the merge.
[16:11] <SURFgijs> but still didn't receive anything
[16:11] <SURFgijs> maybe a google thing
[16:11] <SURFgijs> but google mailservers are normally quite fast
[16:12] <SURFgijs> aaah there it is
[16:12] <SURFgijs> sorry never mind
[16:13] <SURFgijs> working!
[16:13] <SURFgijs> great
[16:13] <SURFgijs> thx
[16:13] <SURFgijs> I'm leaving :)
[16:13] <SURFgijs> good luck improving launchpad and thanks for the fast fix
[17:10] <emet> what is karma?
[17:10] <emet> do I eventually level up?
[17:11] <mrevell> hey beuno, got a moment?
[17:11] <mrevell> hey emet
[17:12] <emet> hey
[17:12] <andrea-bs> emet: you may find https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma useful
[17:12] <mrevell> emet: Karma is Launchpad's way of showing how active people are. For just about every bit of work you do in Launchpad, you get a karma score
[17:12] <emet> is launchpad suppose to take 20 minutes for a revision to show up?
[17:12] <mrevell> emet: And yeah, as andrea-bs says, that guide should tell you what you need. If not, let me know!
[17:14] <emet> cool
[17:14] <emet> do I get a sticker or something if I reach 10,000 karma? :o
[17:18] <emet> does bzr uploads count into karama?
[17:19] <Peng_> If someone marks your bug invalid, do you lose karma? :D
[17:20] <andrea-bs> emet, Peng_: no :D
[17:21] <emet> boo
[17:21] <emet> so that's why my karma is going down
[17:21] <emet> I though launchpad hates my code or something
[17:22] <andrea-bs> emet: look at https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+karma ;)
[17:26] <beuno> mrevell, yeap, hey there
[17:26] <beuno> Peng_, are you going to be around today for 3 or 4 more hours?
[17:26] <beuno> if you are, I have something for you  :)
[17:27] <Peng_> beuno: I won't be around constantly, but probably, yeah.
[17:27] <beuno> Peng_, cool, I'll ping you later on then
[17:27] <mrevell> hey beuno
[17:28] <Peng_> beuno: Okay.
[17:59] <emgent> hello
[17:59] <emgent> delete branch function is disabled ?
[18:00] <emgent> in the last launchpad version i remember the button in the menu.
[18:00] <emgent> but now i cant found it..
[18:03] <emgent> found it..
[18:04] <emgent>  /+delete
[18:04] <emgent> if it`s possible add it on menu. thanks.
[18:09] <newz2000> hi, I can't view launchpad because of a pop-up js error saying something about assertion error related to search
[18:10] <intellectronica> newz2000: url?
[18:10] <newz2000> is this known or would you like a screenshot
[18:10] <newz2000> https://launchpad.net
[18:10] <intellectronica> newz2000: yes, a screenshot would be great, especially if attached to a bug
[18:11] <newz2000> I can't create a bug because I can't go to launchpad
[18:11] <Peng_> Browser?
[18:11] <Peng_> Maybe it's a Greasemonkey script or something?
[18:12] <LarstiQ> newz2000: you can file bugs via email
[18:12] <newz2000> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/tmp/lperror.png
[18:13] <newz2000> maybe this is a firefox problem
[18:13] <newz2000> I get it when trying to view that image I just linked to
[18:13] <newz2000> :-P
[18:14] <newz2000> ignore me, I just realized I installed a firefox update and hadn't restarted the browser yet
[18:15] <LarstiQ> newz2000: doh :)
[18:15] <LarstiQ> always fun, that error
[19:15] <pet> Hi. I'm trying to build a package in my Personal Package Archive. One of the Build-Deps is in hardy-proposed, which doesn't seem to be available for the builder. How can I build the package, without waiting for the package to be available in the "hardy" pocket.
[21:20] <Nightvision>  Hi there was wondering if someone can help, im trying to sign the ubuntu code of conduct but when I dump the contents of my UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc file I get (7, 9, 'No public key')
[21:21] <Nightvision> Have had a google but nothings really helpful and since ive never used gpg before this errors is almost meaningless
[21:25] <matsubara> hi Nightvision, have you uploaded your gpg key to launchpad?
[21:25] <Nightvision> Yes I have
[21:26] <Nightvision> Well atcaully since im new ill not make any assumption ive done this correctly.
[21:27] <matsubara> Nightvision: ok. allow some minutes for our internal keyserver to catch with ubuntu's keyserver
[21:27] <Nightvision> Ive entered my finger print , recieved the encrypted e-mail response, singed it and am trying to upload the contents from text editor into the text box provided
[21:27] <matsubara> Nightvision: what's your account on launchpad?
[21:27] <Nightvision> brendan seerup is my account
[21:28] <matsubara> there are two accounts under that anme
[21:28] <matsubara> name
[21:28] <Nightvision> I gave up about 10 hours ago so im assuming that its not a problem with the key servers it must be something obvious ive done wrong.
[21:28] <matsubara> https://edge.launchpad.net/~brendan.seerup and https://edge.launchpad.net/~brendan-seerup
[21:28] <Nightvision> oh
[21:29] <Nightvision> ok thats odd
[21:29] <matsubara> the ~brendan.seerup one is the one that have the gpg key account uploaded
[21:29] <Nightvision> yes
[21:30] <matsubara> ok. make sure you're logged in with that account
[21:30] <Nightvision> the first is an account under a old nick I dont even remember creating
[21:30] <matsubara> (on a side note you can merge both account if you want)
[21:30] <Nightvision> pretty sure I am but ill check
[21:32] <Nightvision> ok same error while logged in under the correct account
[21:32] <Nightvision> perhaps I should delete the other account given its not needed
[21:36] <matsubara> Nightvision: not needed. you can merge both using https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[21:37] <Nightvision> thank you matsubara, ill merge the accounts now.
[21:37] <Nightvision> Do you suspect this is the cause of the problem ?
[21:37] <matsubara> can you copy and paste the contents of the UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc file using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ ?
[21:39] <Nightvision> yes code of conduct appears fine in paste bin
[21:39] <matsubara> Nightvision: I want to check the signature, can you tell me the URL?
[21:40] <Nightvision> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/30381/
[21:42] <Nightvision> Have put a request through to merge the accounts
[21:44] <ToyKeeper> Any idea if the blueprints feature will be extended soon to facilitate discussions?
[21:44] <kiko> ToyKeeper, one of the things planned for work
[21:45] <matsubara> Nightvision: it seems you used the key: BA7C0BD1 to sign that file but you've uploaded the key 63AD3C68
[21:46] <Nightvision> there for resigning should fix everything
[21:47] <matsubara> Nightvision: you can either a) re-sign with the key you've already uploaded or b) or upload the other key to launchpad
[21:47] <matsubara> I think a) is easier and faster
[21:48] <Nightvision> Yes ill take option a :)
[21:48] <Nightvision> Thank you kindly for your help, makes my day when someone helps a newbie like myself.
[21:49] <matsubara> Nightvision: np. glad I could help. Let me know if you need anything else.
[21:53] <Nightvision> cheers mate
[21:53] <NCommander> cprov, you still with the world of the living?