[01:18] <Jester45> convert it to iso then run sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/empty/directory
[01:41] <vidd> what is the command to rename a directory?
[01:42] <RamenMan> I have a pentium 1 processor
[01:42] <RamenMan> 233 mega hurtz i believe
[01:43] <RamenMan> 190 somethin megs of ram
[01:43] <RamenMan> and a bios with a date of 1999
[01:43] <RamenMan> the install is hanging right after the detect hardwaret hing
[01:44] <RamenMan> hardware thing*
[01:44] <RamenMan> does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:44] <vidd> run the alt cd
[01:44] <RamenMan> i am
[01:44] <RamenMan> its the alternate text installer
[01:44] <RamenMan> and thats where its hanging at
[01:44] <RamenMan> im sooo bummed
[01:45] <vidd> dunno
[01:45] <RamenMan> anyone else?
[01:55] <Jester45> try taking out all unneeded things like network cards audio cards etc
[02:33] <phyliss> hello
[02:33] <phyliss> I am relatively new to Linux and Ubuntu and need help with a Xubuntu install
[02:33] <phyliss> Everything is going well, but I can't get the wireless card to hook up to a wireless network
[02:34] <phyliss> I have downloaded and installed the ndiswrapper and the driver that came with the card
[02:35] <phyliss> a Linksys WPC54GS
[02:39] <phyliss> anyone?
[02:40] <nonlocal> !wifi
[02:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:41] <nonlocal> sorry I can't be of specific help, it's been a long time since I setup madwifi and I'll have to learn it all over next time I do it :)
[02:42] <phyliss> I've been poring over the WiFi docs and nothing is working so far, but thanks
[02:42] <phyliss> anyone else have any ideas?
[02:42] <vidd> phyliss, what does lspci (if its a pci card) say?
[02:43] <phyliss> hold on, and I will tell you
[02:43] <vidd> is the card a bcm43xx card?
[02:43] <phyliss> 0000:00:0f.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[02:44] <vidd> that explains why you are having issues
[02:44] <phyliss> one of the wifi docs says that the BCM4318 means that a lot of the stuff on their installtion instructions doesn't apply
[02:44] <phyliss> any potential solutions?
[02:44] <vidd> if you are going to use ndiswrapper, you need to blacklist the native driver....
[02:45] <phyliss> I just read a thread about the blacklist....
[02:45] <phyliss> how do I go about doing that?
[02:45] <vidd> if you are going to run the native driver, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:46] <vidd> and get rid of that sell-out app ndiswrapper
[02:46] <phyliss> how do I uninstall ndis? via synaptics?
[02:47] <vidd> how did you install it?
[02:47] <phyliss> command line
[02:47] <vidd> apt-get? aptitude?
[02:47] <phyliss> here's an error I get with the code you just sent:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:47] <phyliss> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?'
[02:48] <vidd> so is synaptic running?
[02:48] <phyliss> I believe, apt-get
[02:48] <phyliss> Yes, I have it up right now
[02:49] <vidd> that is why you get that error
[02:49] <phyliss> ok, let me shut it and try it again
[02:49] <vidd> so either use synaptic to add bcm43xx
[02:49] <vidd> or close it and use command line
[02:50] <phyliss> it's working now...didn't know that it wouldn't work with Synaptics open
[02:50] <phyliss> so, I'm downloading a Linux native driver?
[02:51] <phyliss> it says it's done
[02:51] <vidd> no...the native driver is built into the kernel....what you did is get the firmware to use it
[02:52] <phyliss> oh, cool...the command in the wifi docs didn't get the result I just got
[02:52] <vidd> now you need to undo what ever you did to install ndiswrapper
[02:52] <phyliss> Do I need to remove ndiswrapper? If so, what is the cleanest way to do that?
[02:53] <vidd> then set up your network
[02:53] <phyliss> thanks very much by the way, for the help
[02:55] <phyliss> should this work?  sudo make uninstall ndiswrapper
[02:55] <nonlocal> if you compiled it that should work
[02:55] <phyliss> shoot...it didn't, it said "make command not found"
[02:55] <nonlocal> you need to be in the ndiswrapper directory
[02:56] <nonlocal> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,uninstall/
[02:56] <nonlocal> might help
[02:56] <Jester45> whats the driver for ext3 on windows
[02:56] <Jester45> i cant seem to find it
[02:57] <phyliss> excellent, thanks
[02:57] <nonlocal> Jester45:  ext2IFS?
[02:57] <Jester45> just found that
[02:57] <Jester45> i couldnt remeber the name either
[04:07] <michaelpo> how do i get options globetrotter 3g card working? i've installed gcom.. then i run the command at terminal: gcom -d /dev/noz0... it seems i'm connected to the 3g... but... how do i get ubuntu to connect through the 3g card? how do i setup at the -> system -> network?
[04:08] <michaelpo> SIM ready
[04:08] <michaelpo> Waiting for Registration..(120 sec max)
[04:08] <michaelpo> Registered on Home network: "MY MAXIS",2
[04:08] <michaelpo> Signal Quality: 20,99
[04:09] <michaelpo> !globetrotter
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about globetrotter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <michaelpo> !nozomi
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nozomi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <michaelpo> !3g
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <phyliss> I could really use some help in getting my wireless working on my Xubuntu machine. I'm trying to get a Linksys W54GS PCI card to connect
[05:35] <phyliss> I've read the wifi docs to death, but they don't seem to work well with Xubuntu
[05:36] <phyliss> I tried ndiswrapper with no luck, and someone suggested trying just the default install and I downloaded the firmware files and still no luck. The network applet shows the card, but identifies it as "eth1" and won't scan or connect to a wireless network
[05:43] <phyliss> does anyone have any ideas?
[05:48] <phyliss> Hello? I see "76 users" in this room, but no chatter...can someone please help?
[05:55] <phyliss> hello????
[06:02] <phyliss> I could really use some help in getting my wireless working on my Xubuntu machine. I'm trying to get a Linksys W54GS PCI card to connect
[06:10] <phyliss> Am I in the right IRC channel to get support for Xubuntu?
[06:12] <Jester45> yes you are
[06:15] <phyliss> wow, thanks
[06:15] <phyliss> Why is the channel so quiet with all these users?
[06:15] <Jester45> np :) just trying to help to bad i dont know how to setup wireless
[06:15] <Jester45> because most of the are away
[06:15] <Jester45> them*
[06:16] <Jester45> i have been away for a while and just got on and saw you talking to your self :) its gets busy in here some times some times its dead
[06:17] <phyliss> OK, well thanks anyway...maybe someone will feel sorry for me and lead this xubuntu newbie down the road to a solution
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> phyliss: I'd help you.......if my card hadn't worked out of the box and I therefore had a clue how to
[06:24] <phyliss> appreciate it Tony
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> have you tried command-line configuration?  (ie 'iwlist scan', etc
[06:25] <phyliss> haven't found that one yet...I"m trying a solution right now that I found on the forums (possible solution)
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> http://www.kosmaczewski.net/blogs/tech/archives/2006/02/how_to_install_1.php maybe?
[06:28] <phyliss> Yes, I found that one earlier today, but no joy unfortunately
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> well boo
[06:33] <phyliss> I'm trying this one now:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990&highlight=WPC54GS
[07:19] <PlaidRadish> anyone here running ubuntustudio apps and settings in a xubuntu DE?
[08:41] <kikr> how is ubuntu on tablet pc's?
[09:22] <jarnos> I have lost all sound in Feisty. Yesterday it worked better. I installed WengoPhone from http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/DebianUbuntuPackages and updated my system.
[09:25] <jarnos> ..which BTW had not been updated for a while since I had forgotten to install update-notifier!
[09:37] <jarnos> Anybody knows how do I get a list of software available at certain repository?
[10:37] <jarnos> oops.. not all soud is gone, gxine can play wma stream :)
[10:37] <jarnos> I meant sound
[10:39] <jarnos> But for example in Ekiga configuration druid I get "
[10:39] <jarnos> Impossible to open the selected audio device (Intel ICH6) for recording. Please check your audio setup, the permissions and that the device is not busy." when I click Test Setting. It worked better yesterday :|
[10:53] <nicox84> good morning
[10:53] <nicox84> i need some help, because i have an error upgrading to gutsy
[10:54] <nicox84> can somebody help?
[10:56] <jarnos> I am still struggling with sound in Feisty.
[10:58] <jarnos> Applications such as audacious, VLC, and alsaplayer won't play sound, but gxine does.
[11:00] <jarnos> Also flash won't play sound in Firefox anymore.
[11:35] <jarnos> Sound playback works again with the above mentioned applications. I had to restart Xubuntu, though. Flashback from Windows :|
[12:25] <neab> hi could someone remind me where the .desktop files are held.
[12:31] <jarnos> neab, try command locate .desktop
[12:35] <neab> ok, but is there any way to search through the output?
[12:37] <jarnos> neab, search what?
[12:38] <jarnos> neab, you can scroll in terminal emulator.
[12:38] <neab> -_-
[12:38] <neab> theres a hundred entries
[12:38] <jarnos> neab, or pipe the output to a file and "less" the file.
[12:39] <neab> thats ">" right?
[12:39] <jarnos> neab,  locate .desktop | less
[12:39] <jarnos> neab, i think so.
[12:40] <neab> kinda works
[12:43] <neab> thing is I'm looking for the .desktop files for the open office xfce-menu entries
[12:43] <neab> because when I specify a particular module its doesnt load them
[12:44] <neab> It throws up a window where I have to click "new=>text document" again
[12:47] <TheSheep> neab: /usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop
[12:54] <jarnos> Is there any basic way I can test microphone?
[01:17] <jarnos> Is there a way to list all software available / installed from certain repository?
[01:27] <Eskil83> Hello, I have a just installed xubuntu for the first time (most used to ubuntu). Installed it on a old computer and everything works well except when i try to open up the "terminal" then im thrown out to the login window again
[01:28] <Eskil83> Anyone have a clue how I fix this?
[01:34] <darrend> Eskil83: which version of xubuntu?
[01:34] <Eskil83> Feisty fawn
[01:35] <darrend> anything in your Xorg log?
[01:35] <Eskil83> Not sure where I find that
[01:35] <darrend> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old probably
[01:36] <Eskil83> i'll check it
[01:36] <darrend> or possibly even the current one (without the .old extension)
[01:36] <darrend> grep it for 'EE'
[01:36] <darrend> or look at the last few dozen lines of it
[04:58] <grimbaluz> Who know when Xubuntu cds will be available for shipping?
[04:58] <vinze> Probably not in a while
[04:59] <vinze> But as Xubuntu will probably more prominently focus on user-friendliness like Ubuntu does perhaps Canonical/Mark Shuttleworth might think it to be worthy of shipping ;)
[05:08] <vidd> vinze, xubuntu will probably NEVER be shipped
[05:08] <vinze> Never say never ;-)
[05:10] <vidd> if it wasn't for the need to get linux into schools, edubuntu wouldn't ship either
[05:11] <vinze> But if Xfce ever were to get a market share about the size of Gnome or KDE, perhaps it would ;-)
[05:11] <vinze> But currently it is seen as "too specialistic"
[05:11] <vidd> and it would appear that the developers are working very hard at making it a clone of gnome
[05:12] <vinze> Come one, there still are lots of advantages over Gnome
[05:12] <TheSheep> unless there is a great change in the organisation of ubuntu projects, xubuntu has a samll chance for being shipped
[05:12] <vidd> and they are dropping steadily as gutsy gets closer to release
[05:12] <vinze> What's wrong with looking like Gnome?
[05:13] <vidd> LOOK is fine......
[05:13] <vidd> massive, unneeded gnome dependencies is NOT fine
[05:13] <TheSheep> vidd: massive undneeded gnome deps?
[05:13] <TheSheep> vidd: can you name one?
[05:15] <vidd> not by name...i havent installed lately
[05:15] <TheSheep> vidd: so what are you basing your complaints on?
[05:16] <vidd> from the install i did a month or 2 ago...from a dist-upgrade
[05:17] <TheSheep> vidd: and what dependency was so massive and unneeded back then?
[05:18] <vinze> When a dependency is there to improve on user-friendliness, it is not uneeded
[05:18] <vinze> *unneeded
[05:18] <TheSheep> vinze: that's not why they allowed some gnome libs
[05:18] <vidd> there should be NOTHING installed named gnome-*
[05:18] <vinze> TheSheep, what is it then?
[05:19] <TheSheep> vinze: they did it because removing them was a lot of work and introduced bugs and really was just copy-pasting the code from the gnome libs into the application
[05:19] <vinze> Yeah, but then they also could've used other apps couldn't they?
[05:19] <TheSheep> vinze: the libraries they allowed was gnome-vfs and something more, both pretty small
[05:20] <TheSheep> vinze: no, because there are not other apps with the same functionality but without gnome libs
[05:20] <vinze> Ah OK
[05:20] <vinze> But still, it is not unneeded ;)
[05:20] <TheSheep> vinze: and the apps with slightle less functionality are not supported anymore
[05:21] <TheSheep> vinze: there is practically no cd/dvd burining application for gtk that would still be supported
[05:21] <vinze> Bottom line: there is no real alternative to shipping gnome libs considering Xubuntu's target audience
[05:22] <vidd> they are adding a "places" app... a useless indulgence that xubuntu was perfectly fine without
[05:22] <TheSheep> vinze: I think it's more about the amount of work required to get them rolling -- the current xubuntu team can't really dream of keeping all the non-ubuntu apps updated
[05:22] <vinze> TheSheep, lack of manpower sucks :(
[05:22] <vinze> vidd, there are many people (including me) that welcome the Places app
[05:23] <TheSheep> vidd: I *love* the places plugin, I was attempting to write one myself some year ago (never got it working), I filled a bug with a request for this and I
[05:23] <TheSheep> 'm using it every day
[05:23] <vinze> I'd use it every day if I were using Gutsy
[05:23] <TheSheep> and it's absolutely the best panel plugin to date
[05:23] <vidd> so make it available via the "add to panel" rather then force me to try to figure out how to get rid of it
[05:24] <TheSheep> vidd: you *still* don't know how to remove applets from the panel? :)
[05:24] <vinze> It's easier to find out how to remove the Places plugin than to find out it exists and how to add it
[05:24] <vidd> i want to get it off my system...not just hide it from view
[05:24] <vinze> Just because I don't need the Applications menu because I can right-click the desktop doesn't mean it should be removed!
[05:25] <vidd> the thunar launcher on the panel works just fine
[05:25] <TheSheep> vidd: honestly, the places plugin is a great thing, shame the gnome guys are getting rid of it and replacing it with WindowsXP-like start menu
[05:26] <vinze> vidd, you know you are being unreasonable. Just because the Thunar launcher works fine for you it does mean that is the case for everyone
[05:26] <vidd> its a useless waste of space
[05:27] <vinze> vidd, you are the first person I've heard of that finds it useless
[05:27] <TheSheep> it's the only way to access my drives because I don't have icons on my desktop
[05:27] <TheSheep> (I can't have them on the desktop, I do graphics work and they distract me)
[05:27] <vinze> Me neither
[05:27] <vidd> you cant access your drives in thunar???
[05:28] <TheSheep> vidd: no, it doesn't have them in the menu
[05:28] <vinze> TheSheep, and the Places menu does?
[05:28] <TheSheep> vinze: yes
[05:28] <vidd> so its a shortcoming of thunar
[05:28] <vinze> Weird... How could that be?
[05:28] <TheSheep> vidd: indeed
[05:29] <vidd> so fix thunar rather then import a gnome app with all it's dependencies
[05:29] <TheSheep> vidd: still, the places plugin was written faster than they took care of my bug report/feature request for thunar
[05:29] <TheSheep> vidd: and as far as I know, the places plugin is now serving as a testing ground for future thunar functionalities
[05:29] <TheSheep> vidd: (it's easier to test on small app)
[05:29] <TheSheep> vidd: including mounting of samba shares
[05:30] <vinze> And when I'd first open Thunar it would first have to load all the files in my home directory before I could go to my drives
[05:30] <vinze> Places plugin makes it easy to go directly to my drives saving me time
[05:30] <vinze> See ya
[05:30] <TheSheep> vinze: and zeroconf-advertised nfs and ftp shares too, of course
[05:30] <vinze> Those too, but I don't use them ;)
[05:39] <vinze> I'm off again, later
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> hello
[06:46] <nikolam> Hello to all
[06:47] <nikolam> Is there any way to check my installation to see if all my libraries are corecly installed.
[06:47] <nikolam> I have a bunch of programs that dont want to work
[06:47] <nikolam> So I want to check those installed files if they are correct
[06:48] <nikolam> And to see if they are all 64 bit and not by mistake installed 32 bit instead of them
[06:48] <nikolam> My Xubuntu is 64bit install
[06:58] <SoulChild> why do i have a eth2 device but no eth1 ???
[07:05] <rijo> Hello, im having trouble finding the tool to connect to a network file server unit. Where do I find that tool?
[07:12] <SoulChild> How do i update udev ????
[07:20] <wyrd> rijo, what kind of file server is it?
[08:33] <nikolam> nego, koji Ubuntu ti vrti?
[08:33] <nikolam> jel 32 bit il 64_
[08:33] <nikolam> Sorry
[08:33] <nikolam> Wrong channel
[08:34] <Ben_Cs> or else you're trying to teach us a new language? :)
[08:35] <hyper__ch> looks like a slavish language
[08:35] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: nope
[08:36] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: or maybe
[08:36] <hyper__ch> heheh
[09:27] <kalami> hi, I just have a quick question. Anybody there?
[09:27] <vidd> whats up?
[09:28] <kalami> hey, vidd. do you know of any pppoe-setup or adsl-setup in xubuntu?
[09:30] <vidd> im looking
[09:30] <kalami> ok, thanks. me too
[09:31] <vidd> try this http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-broadband-adsl-pppoe-client-rp-pppoe
[09:32] <kalami> ok. hold on.
[09:33] <kalami> oh, sorry but I can't use an internet connection from the very beginning. i was hoping if there was any way to connect using the default binaries in xubuntu
[09:34] <Thunarboy> I was messing about with openbox and I messed up xfce, Everytime I start xfce, xfwm doesn't start, i have to press alt+f2 and run "xfmw4" from there. Anybody know what's wrong and how I can fix it?
[09:34] <vidd> no broadband router?
[09:34] <kalami> nope. just a direct connection (to the modem)
[09:35] <vidd> so why not download the needed apps as .deb's and put them on a disk....
[09:36] <vidd> then you can install them on the machine you need
[09:36] <kalami> i'm using a default live cd.
[09:36] <vidd> so the live cd gets you connected?
[09:36] <Thunarboy> can anybody help me here?
[09:37] <kalami> it's kinda annoying that xubuntu doesn't have pppoe but has ppp and wvdial installed.
[09:37] <vinze> Thunarboy, what's the problem?
[09:37] <kalami> the live cd can get me connected if there a pppoe binary installed by default
[09:37] <Thunarboy> kalami: I was messing about with openbox and I messed up xfce, Everytime I start xfce, xfwm doesn't start, i have to press alt+f2 and run "xfmw4" from there. How can I fix this?
[09:37] <kalami> is there any equivalent of that?
[09:37] <vidd> so what are you connected to now?
[09:37] <Thunarboy> thanks
[09:38] <kalami> i'm using a windows machine, atm.
[09:38] <kalami> sorry Thunarboy, I have no idea about your issue.
[09:38] <vinze> Thunarboy, you *could* add "xfwm4" to Applications->Settings->Autostarted Applications
[09:38] <vinze> It's kinda workaroundish, but it should do the trick
[09:38] <vidd> ok...so on the windows machine....get the .deb's you need for that how-to
[09:39] <kalami> but I already burned the cd.
[09:39] <vidd> yeah....?
[09:39] <kalami> so there's no way to add packages anymore.
[09:39] <Thunarboy> vinze: Thanks, I'll stick it in autostart
[09:39] <vidd> so use the disk....
[09:40] <kalami> you mean the mounted NTFS drives?
[09:40] <vidd> but also (on another disk or usb drive)
[09:40] <kalami> oh, yeah. why haven't I thought of that? Thanks!
[09:40] <kalami> I'll look for a pppoe binary. hold on.
[09:46] <kalami> Thanks again, vidd! I just downloaded pppoe and will give it a try later on.
[09:51] <vidd> cool
[09:59] <thrashy> How do I stop pinging if I pinged an ip?
[09:59] <vinze> Ctrl+C if you did it in the Terminal
[09:59] <thrashy> ah thanks
[09:59] <vinze> np
[10:00] <vidd> ctrl+c will stop any active command running in terminal
[10:30] <greg> hi
[10:30] <greg> Removing ttf-opensymbol ...
[10:30] <greg> Updating fontconfig cache...
[10:30] <greg> /usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[10:30] <greg> /usr/share/fonts/X11: failed to write cache
[10:30] <greg> how do i fix it?
[10:32] <TheSheep> greg: make some room on your disk :)
[10:32] <greg> TheSheep i have 12gigs free
[10:32] <TheSheep> greg: on /
[10:33] <greg> yes on /
[10:33] <TheSheep> greg: no other messages?
[10:33] <greg> dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--remove):
[10:33] <greg>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[10:33] <greg> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:33] <greg>  ttf-opensymbol
[10:34] <greg> and it gave same error for rest of fonts
[10:34] <TheSheep> greg: what happens when you do: sudo fc-cache -f -s
[10:34] <greg> /usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache
[10:34] <greg> /usr/share/fonts/X11: failed to write cache
[10:34] <greg> again
[10:34] <TheSheep> wait, I think I've seen this before
[10:35] <TheSheep> bug 104553
[10:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104553 in fontconfig "upgrade failed when fontconfig cache dirs are newer than system date" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104553
[10:35] <TheSheep> ha!
[10:37] <greg> TheSheep wheres the solution ..?
[10:38] <TheSheep> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2401087&postcount=4
[10:38] <TheSheep> the link was in comments
[10:44] <equinoxe> hello to everyone
[10:45] <vinze> Hey
[10:45] <equinoxe> i have a little problem... I can't get a clean login in xubuntu
[10:45] <equinoxe> all the applications start again
[10:45] <vinze> What do you mean by "clean"?
[10:45] <equinoxe> at it makes me crazy
[10:45] <vinze> Oh...
[10:45] <equinoxe> :|
[10:45] <vinze> You could try closing them, loggin out and select "Save session"
[10:45] <greg> TheSheep didnt work
[10:45] <equinoxe> it isn't checked...
[10:46] <vinze> But if you do when you have all applications closed, they won't start when you login again
[10:46] <vinze> Of course, the next time you logout you'll have to uncheck it again
[10:46] <equinoxe> they are closed
[10:46] <equinoxe> I'm closing each 7 each time
[10:46] <equinoxe> :|
[10:46] <vinze> Yeah, but after doing that you should logout and check "Save session"
[10:46] <TheSheep> equinoxe: delete the ~/.cache/sessions/
[10:47] <vinze> Or you could do that ;-)
[10:47] <equinoxe> can I make them not to EVER do that again?
[10:47] <equinoxe> :|
[10:47] <vinze> Never check the "Save session" box again :)
[10:47] <TheSheep> greg: then no idea. at least you know what's happening. did you change your computer's time recently?
[10:47] <equinoxe> ok
[10:47] <greg> TheSheep, no
[10:47] <TheSheep> vinze: I wonder why is it still there? :)
[10:47] <equinoxe> thanks to everybody
[10:48] <equinoxe> I'm going to try this
[10:48] <equinoxe> hehe
[10:48] <greg> i got this error installing open office?
[10:48] <vinze> OK we'll see how it works out :)
[10:48] <equinoxe> yeah
[10:48] <equinoxe> god bye for now
[10:48] <equinoxe> hehe
[10:48] <equinoxe> good
[10:48] <vinze> See ya
[10:48] <TheSheep> greg: you can try 'touch'-ing all the directories on which it errors
[10:51] <greg> k
[10:51] <greg> seems to work
[10:51] <TheSheep> greg: great
[10:52] <equinoxe> back again
[10:52] <vinze> equinoxe, and?
[10:52] <equinoxe> yes, it's fine
[10:52] <TheSheep> \o/
[10:52] <vinze> Yay!
[10:52] <equinoxe> It feels so good
[10:53] <equinoxe> not to have 2 Aby instances each time I start the computer
[10:53] <TheSheep> seriously, that checkbox should be removed
[10:53] <equinoxe> uf hehe
[10:53] <equinoxe> YES
[10:53] <equinoxe> agree
[10:53] <vinze> Yeah or at least unchecked by default
[10:53] <TheSheep> lets fill a bug report :D
[10:53] <equinoxe> I'm used with KDE style..
[10:53] <equinoxe> where
[10:53] <equinoxe> when it's UNCHECKD
[10:53] <equinoxe> nothing restarts
[10:54] <equinoxe> I do not want to save a session from the last year...
[10:54] <equinoxe> and have it again and again and again and again
[10:54] <equinoxe> hehe
[10:54] <TheSheep> equinoxe: I guess some computer geeks don't likechanges ;)
[10:55] <equinoxe> bug report, that would be my first complain ever hehe
[10:55] <equinoxe> I had to use xubuntu on the computer I am now
[10:55] <equinoxe> because it's PIII 800
[10:55] <equinoxe> My MOM's computer
[10:55] <TheSheep> equinoxe: I learned that the xfce guys really listen to complaints when they are well written and motiovated
[10:55] <equinoxe> eh, I'll send them a picture with my mom's face
[10:56] <equinoxe> closing AGAIN the applications
[10:56] <equinoxe> hehe
[10:56] <vinze> Haha
[10:56] <equinoxe> that should be motivated
[10:56] <equinoxe> hehe
[10:56] <equinoxe> she does'n exit
[10:57] <equinoxe> the normal way
[10:57] <equinoxe> she just pushes the button
[10:57] <equinoxe> the power button
[10:57] <equinoxe> and so...
[10:57] <equinoxe> the little check box
[10:57] <equinoxe> is todally useless
[10:57] <zoredache> is the computer have the power managment features that allows you to make the power button initiate a shutdown?
[10:58] <equinoxe> and when I had to fix the problem.. ah.. easy... uncheck Save Session
[10:58] <equinoxe> and I'm good to go..
[10:58] <equinoxe> but no
[10:58] <equinoxe> thanks again hehe
[10:58] <zoredache> have you tried starting the programs with the -sm-disable switch?
[10:58] <Jester45> !enter
[10:58] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:58] <vinze> \o/
[10:59] <equinoxe> well, yes
[10:59] <equinoxe> it shuts down
[10:59] <equinoxe> just fine
[10:59] <equinoxe> ah, now it's fixed
[10:59] <equinoxe> don't have to worry hehe
[11:00] <equinoxe> i SAVED the CLEAN session
[11:00] <equinoxe> and it's fine hehe
[11:00] <Jester45> !enter | equinoxe
[11:00] <ubotu> equinoxe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:01] <Jester45> its very irritating switching back and forth thinking someone was asking a question
[11:01] <equinoxe> ah, well... sorry. I'm not used with IRC... and this kind of real time forums
[11:02] <equinoxe> and thanks again. good bye
[11:02] <vinze> Bye
[11:21] <nonlocal> haha.. IRC = real time forum... nice.
[11:26] <TheSheep> nonlocal: anywhere you talk in public is a 'forum'
[11:38] <Jester45> what about speeches TheSheep
[11:48] <nonlocal> TheSheep:  that is a particularly broad definition. I wouldn't call my discussion at the coffee shop a forum, even if my neighbours are eavesdropping
[11:48] <nonlocal> town hall type meeting sure
[11:48] <nonlocal> but it's not the semantics of the word 'forum' that amused me, it's clear he meant forum in the phpBB-type sense.
[11:49] <Kilroo> That reminds me, I was going to look into some things.
[11:49] <nonlocal> Kilroo:  glad I could help ;)
[11:50] <Kilroo> I had almost decided I wanted to use SMF if I set up a forum on my webspace again, and then I read some stuff about the SMF licensing and decided I'd rather write my own. And I don't want to write my own.
[11:51] <nonlocal> Everytime I take up a project I decide I want to write my own, and I'm pretty sure that's why I never finish my projects..heh
[12:51] <greg> help
[12:51] <greg> my pc started beeping every time i type a letter
[12:58] <Arkh> why?