[02:22] <stgraber> so looks like the latest trusty SRU kernels are causing panics for IPv6 again... bug 1426618
[02:22] <stgraber> happened here three times and had someone else report the same issue in bug 1404558 *which was from the previous similar issue)
[02:22] <stgraber> apw: ^ FYI since you figured it out last time around
[02:23] <stgraber> for now I'll be rebooting on -45
[09:24] <tjaalton> ahah, it was the kernel nfs server that was eating all of my ram, and not letting go of it
[09:25] <tjaalton> cache size increased at a rate of 8MB/5sec, stopped when the daemon was killed
[10:27] <tjaalton> or maybe it was just bootchart, couldn't even free the cache once it hit 9GB
[11:17] <Zhenech> heya, just a quick q: will vivid ship with 3.18 or 3.19?
[14:10] <apw> Zhenech, 3.19
[16:05] <cristian_c> Hello
[16:05] <cristian_c> Where can I find the patched kernel for 3.19 stable?
[16:05] <cristian_c> not mainline kernel,  but ubuntu kernels
[18:36] <apw> cristian_c, in our main ubuntu-vivid.git report, now as master/master-next
[18:36] <apw> s/report/repo
[18:36] <cristian_c> ok


[02:32] <jac1d> Hi all.  Having issues with an MCE remote on 14.04, can't get it to work reliably.  Have it working at irw level but no response witihin myth itself, any ideas?


[12:33] <rbasak> Bump on bug 1992500 please.
[12:33] -ubottu:#launchpad- Bug 1992500 in Launchpad itself "Permission requirement for setDefautRepository() is too broad" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992500
[12:34] <rbasak> I'm nearly at the point where all new sources packages automatically get git ubuntu imports without any manual intervention, and this will soon be the remaining blocker on that.


[00:32] <swift110> hey
[05:32] <bray90820_> What's the latest version of mate for the raspberry pi 3?
[05:38] <alkisg> bray90820_: I think 16.04.2
[05:38] <alkisg> I don't think 18.04 is out yet; of course you can still install it, it's just harder
[05:39] <bray90820_> Yeah that's what the website showd just didn't know if the release was different than the regular ubuntu release
[05:41] <alkisg> It is,it's using some custom tools that are specific to rpis
[05:41] <alkisg> There's a server armhf image that you can use for rpis too, it doesn't have those bits
[05:42] <alkisg> If you're a casual user, yeah, 16 for now, 18 later
[05:42] <bray90820_> I am just using it for music playback with plex so no need for anything fancy
[05:43] <alkisg> 16 then
[05:43] <bray90820_> Yeah
[05:43] <bray90820_> Dumb question but to write it to the SD should I rename to just .img it's currently named ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img.xz
[05:44] <bray90820_> Or well everythingBeforeTheDot.img
[05:44] <alkisg> xz is a .zip file, you need to unzip it or use a tool that can unzip it on the  fly
[05:44] <alkisg> Are you currently on windows or linux?
[05:44] <alkisg> I think there are instructions in the mate site...
[05:44] <bray90820_> MacOSX actually
[05:45] <bray90820_> But I know how to deal with it now
[05:45] <bray90820_> Thanks
[05:45] <alkisg> ok
[05:45] <alkisg> No macs in greece so I always forget that os :D
[05:46] <bray90820_> Yeah I've been using MacOS for 10+ years so I know what to do
[07:19] <mate|94974> wow
[07:19] <mate|94974> seems legit
[07:19] <mate|94974> sd
[07:19] <mate|94974> f
[07:19] <mate|94974> sd
[07:19] <mate|94974> fsd
[07:19] <mate|94974> a
[07:19] <mate|94974> f
[07:19] <mate|94974> sdfsdfsd
[07:19] <mate|94974> sd
[07:19] <mate|94974> fasdfd
[07:24] <bray90820> Is it just me or is ubuntu really show when web browsing on firefox?
[07:25] <bray90820> On a raspberry pi 3
[07:26] <m4t> rpi is probably slow i think
[07:26] <m4t> rpi 3 is slower than most phones afaik, imagine a phone running full firefox
[07:26] <m4t> firefox for android is slow. i just ditched it because of that.
[07:27] <m4t> chromium is probably fast, dunno if they have that for arm
[07:27] <bray90820> Honestly ubuntu mate just seems pretty slow on a raspberry pi
[07:28] <m4t> heh
[07:28] <m4t> if youre on 16.04 you could try a recent chromium build https://launchpad.net/~chromium-team/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+packages
[07:29] <m4t> they have armhf
[07:29] <bray90820> To be honest all I really need is plex so I think I am just gonna switch to a plex only image
[07:29] <m4t> it might help to disable disk cache too actually
[07:30] <m4t> sd card random read/writes is *slow*
[07:30] <m4t> when running off a usb stick disabling cache made a huge difference. it'd sit there "waiting for cache..."
[07:30] <bray90820> Thanks
[08:32] <yogg> Hi
[08:32] <diogenes_> hi
[08:34] <yogg> I use mate 18.04 and wan't do disable bluetoth on startup. If I disable wlan let it disabled after a reboot. This does not work with bluetooth. I found a way for 16.04 over "/etc/default" but nothing for 18.04
[08:36] <m4t> yogg: what do you mean by disable bluetooth?
[08:36] <m4t> there are multiple components
[08:42] <yogg> There is the bluetooth controlpannel on the right upper pannel. There I can enable and disable bluetooth. I want to disable it by default and enable it if I need it. "rfkill list all" shows me "Soft blocked: yes" if I disable it over the pannel
[08:44] <diogenes_> yogg, look in bios if there is a switch to turn if off
[08:46] <yogg> no I don't want to disable it absolutly. I wan't do enable it (fast) if I need it.
[08:50] <yogg> Maybe I found it "/etc/bluetooth/main.conf" there is a "AutoEnable=true" line. Maybe this does what I wnat
[08:51] <diogenes_> yea try that, if that doesn't help then you could try: dconf-editor > org > blueman > plugins > powermanager > auto-power-on switch to false
[08:56] <yogg> no it does not :(
[10:47] <lrfeneor> New to this distro, mozilla frequently crashes, some known fix?
[11:20] <mactheknife> Hi, what driver is needed for a logitech webcam in mate desktop?
[12:15] <sixwheeledbeast^> lrfeneor: RPi?
[12:16] <jogi> i am searching special hardware for rpi, i.e. a micro-sd to sata - adapter. available? Or a screen with hdmi input.
[12:17] <jogi> now i am using my rpi as home-pc, not for mobile-purposes....i wanted that.
[12:17] <jogi> OH ENGLAND did win in world cup ion Russia!
[12:21] <sixwheeledbeast^> I have seen SATA to multi uSD adapters so it wouldn't surprise me, but I don't see why.
[12:21] <jogi> kodi did not work on ubuntu mate 16 ..... damned i need the openelec os additionally . but did raspian work together with KODI?
[12:23] <jogi> i saw micro-sd to mini sd card adapters, to sata adapter were not listed on ebay.
[12:23] <jogi> my usb hard disk with usb 2.0 is faster than the micro usb card inside.
[12:24] <jogi> do you know of any teamviewer version or do i need to use VNC?
[12:25] <jogi> Oh, sorry, i forgot, I did have an MEGA-IMAGE of OSes for RPI3.
[12:25] <sixwheeledbeast^> hardware acceleration was required for Kodi and could be enabled
[12:26] <jogi> where was the mega image to download?
[12:26] <jogi> my venitron PC crashed very often and needs additionally a fan. (at 75W).
[12:27] <jogi> RPI at 5-8W power consumtion.
[12:27] <jogi> p
[12:27] <jogi> i have bought the coeds for Video at RPI shop.
[12:28] <jogi> the codes were added to the system.
[12:29] <jogi> ok thanks. i will try Raspian later for KODI.
[12:34] <jogi> ....... soon rebooting on another hd.....
[17:45] <renata> oi
[18:40] <pi_> wassup everyone
[20:48] <jtb_> Hello, does anyone know how to enter recovery mode on ubuntu MATE installed on raspberry pi3
[20:55] <sixwheeledbeast^> Recovery mode on Rpi would be Shift at boot?


 http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/releasing/2018-January/004602.html
 So it seems the plan is to get 5.9.4 out this week.
 That lines up well, so we can get things in for Alpha 2.
 cjwatson has offered to help unblock things for other arches on request, and I'll probably end up doing it alongside the nodejs transition I've been planning.
 But it'll probably be the weekend before I get a chance to make some headway...
 If 5.9.4 gets released before then and you want to help package things, let me know :)
 @tsimonq2, Note that in sid some nodejs rdeps ftbfs on some archs, you may want to try them out before syncing in bionic
 @mattia, Ok
 @tsimonq2 we will need in 5.9.4 https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/210552/
 http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtwayland.git/commit/?h=5.9&id=bf09c7a1493c01a65ee0f110b37a04e653edc08e
 Ref: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381630
 Did not make it into 5.9.4, so needs backporting
 Ok, wfm
 We have any working notes anywhere?
 @acheronuk, No, but it would probably be a good idea :)
 Yeah, just so we don't forget things like this in a week or so.
 I know we both have Phab instances, wanna do it on one of those, or just an Etherpad or something?
 Phab is nicer, but people would need to sign up for stuff they maybe don't want. A pad is quick and dirty, but works/
 Ok, away from a computer at the moment, so feel free to create it
 I'm just going to do tha same, so later. I have for now used pen and paper. 😱
 Well, pencil...
 hehe ok


[00:02] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm not too sure what happens after the sessions at UDS, this is my first time ;)
[00:02] <chrisccoulson> brb, need to recover hard disk again :(
[00:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: really, cool
[00:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: one more more thing to discuss when you get back
[00:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: you back?
[00:29] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i am
[00:29] <chrisccoulson> that took a while to recover my laptop this time
[00:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, so Seamonkey is experiencing a bug with xul191, I just requested landing on the branch, it basically causes it to crash under some circumstances.  It's an issue with cairo 1.8.10 and xul191, so I'm wondering if it's something worth SRUing or if the release next week is soon enough
[00:31] <chrisccoulson> the release next week is probably soon enough
[00:32] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I think we have 2 or 3 reports already, I figure, if it can land on <IP_ADDRESS> before release, we can include it as a patch, otherwise, I think we have to use in source cairo + our LCD patch
[00:36] <chrisccoulson> hopefully we don't have to go down that route, as that's quite a big change in the stable release
[00:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, I figured that
[00:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I prepare stable branches for Seamonkey for the security PPA (Hardy, Jaunty, Karmic)?
[00:40] <chrisccoulson> yeah, can do. that should be a fairly simple update, as it doesn't require updating anything else on the system
[00:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, so, those you can probably push to security PPA tomorrow, I guess 2.0.5 in Lucid with the crash issue isn't any worse than 2.0.4, so you can probably push that too
[00:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, you tag each release as released, but edit the changelog if changes are necessary?
[00:44] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, that's what i've been doing for the stable branches
[00:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, but what about Seamonkey, since we have to spin again once it's released, should we tag still?
[00:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I was going to append, ~pre1 to each of the builds for Seamonkey then after release, we can remove that
[00:46] <chrisccoulson> ah, good point. we should probably tag those too if we're going to release them in the PPA
[00:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I was also wondering if we need to push the after release builds to PPA since, if we push straight to archive, they'll be available sooner for i386/amd64 (won't have to wait for all arches before pocket copy)
[00:48] <chrisccoulson> that's true. the advantage with pocket copying though is we avoid version skew between arches, which is a problem when a package has some arch all binaries
[00:49] <chrisccoulson> that tends to confuse users, as they can end up with a 2 hour period where they have an uninstallable package
[00:49] <chrisccoulson> (assuming 2 hours is the frequency of the publisher runs)
[00:50] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok
[00:50] <micahg> well, builders probably won't be too busy anyways, so it'll only be 8hrs after release or so
[00:50] <chrisccoulson> yeah, the builders aren't doing much at the minute
[00:51] <micahg> ah, 5 hrs, armel is the longest build
[00:51] <micahg> so that's not too bad
[00:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I might be able to get the list early and have the branches ready locally to push after release with the new changelog
[00:53] <chrisccoulson> the release is going to happen at UDS next week isn't it?
[00:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yep :)
[00:53] <chrisccoulson> heh, perfect timing ;)
[00:54] <chrisccoulson> at least with the ff364 update, it's just a case of pocket copying it to -security now
[00:54] <micahg> but it's usually evening UTC when it's released, so it'll be after teh sessions are done for the dat
[00:54] <micahg> *day
[00:54] <chrisccoulson> during the beer drinking session s;)
[00:54] <micahg> heh
[00:55] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, but we need to do stable updates as well as ff35 will be released the same day and ff30 will be vulnerable
[06:47] <micahg> chrisccoulson: sorry, will have to finish up SM stuff in the morning, fading fast
[08:55] <BUGabundo_remote> triim triim, triim triim
[09:58] <DASPRiD> anyone playing quakelive and noticing segfaults of firefox when trying to join a game?
[11:25] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: FYI http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=43408
[15:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm testing the SM2.0.5 tarball now
[16:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: seamonkey is building now
[16:15] <micahg> locally
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> excellent :)
[16:29] <sebner> micahg: another TB related question, my old TB (already 0.3.x but just before the fresh-install) automatically limited my writing to 80chars when composing a mail. Just noticed that this isn't the case now
[16:33] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, pushed your bug to the devs a few minutes ago, you already have a fix
[16:33] <micahg> sebner: I think that's a setting somewhere
[16:33] <micahg> but weird that it would change like that
[16:33] <sebner> micahg: bah, just problem with a clean install :P
[16:33] <sebner> *problems
[16:33] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: fix?
[16:34] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, there's a patch in the review queue now
[16:34] <micahg> sebner: I can look for the setting later if you want
[16:34] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, it's trivial, so it should land quickly
[16:34] <sebner> micahg: would be nice, I'll search myself for now and let you know if I find it so you don't waste your time
[16:35] <BUGabundo_remote> fta: great
[16:35] <BUGabundo_remote> it keeps blowing my session :(
[16:35] <micahg> sebner: will you be at UDS?
[16:36] <sebner> micahg: unfortunately not, no time - no money .. sebner = poor student :D
[16:36] <micahg> jcastro: if I subscribed, but participation isn't required, do I have to show up to the session?
[16:37] <jcastro> no
[16:38] <micahg> k, because I subscribe to 2 sessions at the same time and one of them I'm running :)
[16:42] <micahg> my typing is getting worse
[16:58] <fta> *sigh* i wanted to run the js benchmarks on all the builds of chromium beta, but launchpad no longer has them :(
[17:00] <fta> not even the source tarballs, oh my, this is useless
[17:21] <micahg> chrisccoulson: SM2.dev (head) and SM2.lucid branches pushed
[17:24] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I make SM2.hardy, .jaunty, .karmic on my way in to $WORK?
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, feel free to do that if you get the chance
[18:19] <DASPRiD> can it be that this bug is related to some firefox update? http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?p=357899#post357899
[18:22] <Mook_sb> DASPRiD: what version of firefox?
[18:23] <DASPRiD> 3.6.3
[18:24] <DASPRiD> thanks for the reminder, adding that to the bug report there
[18:28] <DASPRiD> Mook_sb, looking into it?
[18:29] <Mook_sb> DASPRiD: not really, but I know it's information useful for whoever does (because 3.6.4 has crazy out of process plugins if I remember correctly)
[18:29] <DASPRiD> wasn't that 3.7?
[18:30] <Mook_sb> no, see https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.6.4
[18:31] <DASPRiD> i see
[18:34] <DASPRiD> oh
[18:34] <DASPRiD> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559704
[18:34] <DASPRiD> that bug is known
[18:36] <DASPRiD> Mook_sb, when did firefox 3.6.3 get into lucid? with the release or later?
[18:37] <Mook_sb> DASPRiD: I have no clue - I just hang around here, I don't even really use ubuntu :p
[18:37] <DASPRiD> lol :P
[18:37] <DASPRiD> shame on you :)
[18:45] <chrisccoulson> ff3.6.3 has been in lucid since release
[18:45] <chrisccoulson> and you can test ff3.6.4 by downloading it from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> ^^ Mook_sb / DASPRiD
[18:50] <DASPRiD> ah, hm well i wait ;)
[18:50] <DASPRiD> or…... maybe i try it in a few minutes ;)
[19:00] <DASPRiD> chrisccoulson, i wonder, are there 64 builds of firefox i can just download and put somewhere, so that i do not disturb my package managment?
[19:00] <chrisccoulson> DASPRiD, why not just use the PPA?
[19:00] <DASPRiD> it upgrades my existing firefox then, right?
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> DASPRiD, yeah, that's right
[19:01] <DASPRiD> is it already a branded version with language packs?
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> it is a branded version (it's the version that will be copied to lucid-security next week after the official 3.6.4 release)
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> assuming there are no issues from testing
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> the security updates sit in that PPA for testing until the official mozilla release, and then they are copied in to the archive
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> so don't be afraid of using them ;)
[19:03] <DASPRiD> aha! ^^
[19:03] <DASPRiD> i always thought that security ppa is unbranded
[19:04] <chrisccoulson> no, the security PPA is where we host what will likely become the official security updates
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> but the current 3.6.4 in the PPA now is almost certainly going to be the one that is rolled out next week (i don't see us doing any more updates)
[19:05] <DASPRiD> tho 3.6.4 is also a feature update ;)
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> it is
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> but that's going to be the case more and more with mozilla updates
[19:07] <DASPRiD> alright, lemme check if 3.6.4 still crashes with quakelive
[19:07] <chrisccoulson> you're running 64-bit aren't you?
[19:07] <DASPRiD> i am
[19:08] <DASPRiD> why do you ask?
[19:09] <DASPRiD> hm nope, the bug is still present in 3.6.4
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> you're mostly unaffected by the OOPP support, as long as you're using flash and nspluginwrapper from the archive
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> it's only currently enabled for the standard flash player
[19:10] <DASPRiD> i'm using 64 bit flash plugin
[19:10] <DASPRiD> but i also tried to uninstall flash completly, still same crash
[19:12] <chrisccoulson> well, that's ok for now as long as you don't notice any regressions from 3.6.3 -> 3.6.4 ;)
[19:13] <DASPRiD> i would prefer progression… :P
[19:17] <DASPRiD> chrisccoulson, but well, the lucid upgrade was kinda… bad… usually i have more minor bugs, but now i have three serious ones, quakelive not working, compiz/xorg + nvidia have high cpu usage and video playback stutters (probably due to pulseaudio issues)
[19:17] <chrisccoulson> i'd suspect that the compiz/xorg high cpu and video playback issues are all video driver problems
[19:18] <chrisccoulson> and the firefox crash is more than likely a plugin issue
[19:19] <DASPRiD> the video plackback thing is a bit strange… one thing is: in the first 3 days after lucid upgrade, quakelive worked, when whatching a video, it was stuttering, when i played quakelive afterwards, the sound had a delay of about 2 seconds until i killed pulseaudio and restarted it
[19:19] <DASPRiD> that bugs me even more, that quakelive was already working on lucid with 3.6.4 and suddently stopped working yesterday
[19:19] <DASPRiD> that makes me feel that it isn't a firefox issue
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> yeah, nothing has changed in firefox since a few days before release
[19:22] <DASPRiD> nor has the quakelive plugin changes
[19:22] <DASPRiD> hm, what about that one there? http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49471
[19:22] <DASPRiD> 0x00007ffff7ddaae3 in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[19:22] <DASPRiD> what is that file?
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> thats part of glibc, and almost certainly not of any use in helping diagnose the problem
[19:23] <DASPRiD> darn
[19:25] <DASPRiD> interesting,m i deleted the quakelive folder, and it redownloaded the game content, now it works again
[19:28] <DASPRiD> alright, two problems to go ;)
[19:33] <chrisccoulson_> bah, my laptop has ground to a halt
[19:33] <chrisccoulson_> i may as well try out quakelive on my desktop instead ;)
[19:45] <DASPRiD> chrisccoulson, hehe
[20:40] <micahg> chrisccoulson
[20:40] <micahg> oops
[20:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: seamonkey branches are ready, but not tagged for stable releases, I test build lucid and hardy
[20:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm not sure if we need a new version of devscripts or not for seamonkey
[20:42] <micahg> *mozilla-devscripts
[20:55] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I also started on teh SRU for gnome-shell
[22:25] <ddecator> micahg: did you ever figure out if the "Report broken website" option was taken out on purpose?
[22:30] <micahg> ddecator: no
[22:30]  * micahg forgot
[22:31] <micahg> ddecator: poke me later
[22:31] <ddecator> micahg: alright, no problem, i've got other stuff to work on in the meantime, i just saw the bug in my inbox and thought i'd ask
[23:04] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL @ darth vader http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ljFfL-mL70&feature=player_embedded
[23:26] <ddecator> micahg: hm, is firefox supposed to offer the ubuntu language packs alongside its own installed languages when spellchecking (bug 576360) possibly a regression from bug 66015?
[23:35] <micahg> ddecator: no, it uses system dictionaries, the thing is Firefox is fixed, so it's no longer a Firefox issue, we need to clean that up for Maverick
[23:35] <micahg> ddecator: or rather, Firefox has done all they are willing to do for the issue :)
[23:35] <micahg> s/Firefox/Mozilla/
[23:35] <ddecator> micahg: gotcha. so what should i do with the report?
[23:36] <micahg> ddecator: low/triaged, tracking bug for multiple dictionaries
[23:36]  * micahg thinks using the old one is like beating a dead horse, note the old bug and explain that Mozilla fixed their end
[23:37] <ddecator> micahg: er, track which bug?
[23:37] <micahg> ddecator: track the need to fix the multiple dictionaries
[23:37] <micahg> the issue is symlinks on the system
[23:38] <micahg> ddecator: we need a dictionary audit
[23:38] <micahg> ccheney: are you going to be at UDS?
[23:39] <ddecator> micahg: ok, i understand the issue, but are you saying to track another report?
[23:39] <micahg> ddecator: well, the bug can be used to track the cleanup of the dictionary packages
[23:40] <ddecator> micahg: ok, so is there anything i need to do on the report for that?
[23:40] <micahg> ddecator: nope, just note it
[23:42] <ddecator> micahg: ah, alright, got it. thanks. and one more quick question: firefox honors the gconf settings for whether it should show icons or not, but only after a restart. is that something that could be made instant? (bug 424711, not sure if i should just close it)
[23:47]  * micahg is looking
[23:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ^^^ do you know if this is supposed to be immediate or after restart?
[23:48] <micahg> ddecator: I remember there was a bug for when that was fixed so it would work, but I don't know about this one point
[23:49] <ddecator> micahg: alright
[23:49] <chrisccoulson> micahg - it should update immediately really
[23:50] <micahg> ddecator: k, do you have the original bug where it was fixed, you can see if there's a bug blocking it on b.m.o
[23:50] <micahg> ddecator: otherwise, I'll look later
[23:50] <micahg> ddecator: so, mark the bug confirmed
[23:50] <ddecator> micahg: i'll take a look after i respond to the rest of the bugs in my inbox


[13:37] <danilos> mhall119, hi
[15:11] <technoviking> Would the following user ranks work on the forums within the guidelines? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11961683
[15:52] <technoviking> what is the hex color for Kubuntu blue?
[15:54] <nigelb> technoviking: #kubuntu-devel would know.
[15:55] <technoviking> thanks
[21:13] <daker-cloud> mars: i am lost, i still don't know what to do, pushing directly or MP :/
[21:13] <daker-cloud> oopps
[21:13] <daker-cloud> mhall119: i am lost, i still don't know what to do, pushing directly or MP :/
[21:14] <mhall119> daker-cloud: I've uploaded a build of django-openid-auth for precise to the ~summit-hackers PPA
[21:15] <daker-cloud> nice :)
[21:15] <mhall119> https://launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/+archive/community-ppa/+build/3513838
[22:08] <daker-cloud> mhall119: i am trying to port LTP to 1.3
[22:08] <daker-cloud> any idea why it fails http://paste.ubuntu.com/1003806/ ?
[22:10] <mhall119> daker-cloud: nope, does it give you any other output?
[22:10] <daker-cloud> mhall119: AssertionError: Couldn't find 'Ensure this value is less than or equal to 100.' in response
[22:11] <mhall119> did it pass on an earlier version of Django?
[22:11] <daker-cloud> and the response has :
[22:11] <daker-cloud>

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[22:13] <daker-cloud> i which if they had support for launchpad http://travis-ci.org/
[22:33] <daker-cloud> wish*


[01:10] <ScottK> apachelogger: If I'm doing <double> to <qreal> changes to fix armel FTBFS, basically if it builds, it's fixed, right?
[01:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: yes
[01:13] <ScottK> OK.
[01:13] <ScottK> Cool.
[03:56] <ecinx> Hello, I need help instaling an application i've  spent over 9 hours tyring to install .
[03:56] <ecinx> http://pastebin.com/1Uz4tQEY
[03:56] <ecinx> altera_installer_gui: cannot connect to X server :0
[04:07] <tsimpson> ecinx: you don't use sudo with GUI apps, use kdesudo
[04:08] <ecinx> oh
[04:08] <ecinx> let me try that
[04:09] <ecinx> does that look right?
[04:09] <ecinx> kdesudo sh ./10.1sp1_quartus_free_linuxx.sh
[04:10] <tsimpson> yeah
[04:12] <ecinx> it's starting, in a window with an X on the top left, lookes good
[04:15] <ecinx> thanks tsimpson , a screen came up
[04:16] <ecinx> but the destination directory says '  /root/altera/10.1 is that good?
[04:16] <ecinx> the ' /root/ ' part?
[04:16] <tsimpson> depends what it's doing and what you want it to do
[04:16] <tsimpson> /root is root's home
[04:17] <tsimpson> I'd guess you don't need to be root to launch whatever it is,
[04:17] <ecinx> i don't know if that sounds right though.. I'm new in linux, but I want to be able to work with the program using my username
[04:17] <tsimpson> so just run the script normally
[04:17] <ecinx> okay
[04:18] <ecinx> on secon thought space req is 5.6g space available is 8.3g
[04:19] <ecinx> my home has about 40g+ free i would rather instal it there
[04:29] <ScottK> Riddell, apachelogger: I think I fixed the sip problem in bindings, but then http://paste.ubuntu.com/568591/ happened.
[04:29] <ScottK> I'm pushing to bzr and going to bed, so please have a look.
[04:36] <ecinx> it's installing i  installed it into /home/apps/altera apps being a newly created folder since /home/ has over 50gb free while / has only 8gb free and the install is 6gb
[04:38] <tsimpson> ScottK: line 3886
[04:44] <ScottK> tsimpson: My 3886 says "In file included from /usr/include/python2.7/Python.h:8:0,"
[04:44] <ScottK> ?
[04:44] <tsimpson> yeah, I didn't mean that line, then I lost the line I did mean
[04:45] <tsimpson> lines 5223 & 5224
[04:45] <tsimpson> make[3]: *** [CMakeFiles/python_module_PyKDE4_kdeui.dir/sip/kdeui/sipkdeuipart3.o] Error 1
[04:45] <tsimpson> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[04:46] <tsimpson> it's much easier to see those when you don't use -j with make
[04:46] <vorian> nixternal ping-a-ling
[04:47] <ScottK> Yesh.
[04:47] <ScottK> tsimpson: Thanks.
[04:47] <tsimpson> no problem :)
[04:47] <ScottK> I guess that didn't work on fixing sip.
[04:47] <ScottK> Hard to believe it went on for another 11,000 lines.
[04:48] <ScottK> Thanks.
[04:48] <ScottK> Oh, said that already.
[04:48] <ScottK> Another sign I should be going to sleep.
[04:48] <ScottK> Good night.
[04:52] <ecinx> I've successfuly installed it, It ran after the installation finish but after i closed it i don't know how to open it again. I ran quartus and alt f2 and typed 'quartus' in the terminal and it didn't run
[04:54] <tsimpson> ecinx: the system doesn't know where to find it, you need to give the full path
[04:55] <tsimpson> or edit the applications menu by right-clicking the launcher icon and choosing "Menu Editor", then you can create a link in there
[04:56] <ecinx> hmm nice tip
[04:56] <ecinx> but i dont even know where the app is
[04:57] <ecinx> the directory is full of stuff and folders
[04:58] <ecinx> i think i found it, wiht google
[05:36] <nixternal> vorian: pong
[05:36] <vorian> nixternal: i have ubuntu politics
[05:36] <vorian> hate*
[05:37] <vorian> HATE!
[05:37] <maco> you are who you are because of nobody else? :P
[05:37] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:37] <nixternal> maco: that was a good one
[05:37]  * nixternal jots that one down
[05:37] <vorian> when did we start censoring?
[05:38] <vorian> they pulled my damn feed off the planet
[05:38] <nixternal> vorian: that's why I chilled from the politics side. i am going to do the me side and that's it. i want to start contributing again, but differently than before. i let myself get way to immersed in the political side and it just wore me out
[05:38] <vorian> and the one CC member that is awake will not respond to me
[05:39] <vorian> nixternal: i can understand that
[05:39] <nixternal> i wouldn't expect them to until after all of them have had time to review
[05:39] <vorian> fuck the planet
[05:39] <nixternal> i noticed like 3 changes to your blog in lp:~planet-ubuntu in the past 24 hours
[05:39] <maco> oi oi, language, mate!
[05:40] <vorian> It's mostly wanna be's anymore (on the planet)
[05:40] <vorian> and sorry maco
[05:40] <nixternal> i have to agree that the latest post doesn't belong on the planet. that's why i split my posts now
[05:40] <nixternal> though i haven't yet for ubuntu, because i don't want to tag everything i think would be good for the planet with ubuntu
[05:41] <maco> vorian: please learn to spell "poseur"
[05:41] <nixternal> kde is different, because i only have my kde tags posted there. they don't want to read about my thunderbird ftw post or ubuntu this or that
[05:41] <nixternal> it pisses the arch linux turds off
[05:41] <vorian> Well, it was aimed at matthew.  he's such a tool
[05:41] <maco> i just looked at your twitter and saw you calling matthew a manequin over and over
[05:41] <vorian> maco: my twitter?
[05:41] <maco> yes where you linked to your blog
[05:41] <nixternal> maco: if you are a skater or have been a skater, it is poser and will always be poser, because they don't believe in adding the 'u' to stuff
[05:42] <maco> nixternal: i just assumed that was punk kids being crappy spellers
[05:42] <vorian> ah
[05:42] <vorian> whoops
[05:42] <maco> (and i don't mean that in the fire-engine-red or electric-blue hair sense :P)
[05:42] <valorie> there is a diff between "posers" and "poseurs"
[05:43] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:43] <vorian> haha
[05:43] <vorian> this is why i <3 kubuntu
[05:43] <nixternal> yeah, posers are people who do 3d rendering
[05:43] <valorie> rofl
[05:43] <nixternal> unless of course you are a sk8r
[05:44] <vorian> geeze, mike is not responding at all to my /queries
[05:45] <maco> nixternal: i used to have fire-engine-red hair
[05:46] <nixternal> i can't picture you with that
[05:46] <nixternal> time to play some golf i think. i have messed with .htaccess until i am blue in the face tonight
[05:47] <vorian> nixternal: aren't you on the CC now?
[05:48] <maco> vorian: he quit
[05:48] <vorian> hrm
[05:48] <maco> i believe persia was his replacement
[05:48] <vorian> maco: just for the fun of it, will you see if mike responds to you?
[05:48] <maco> mike who?
[05:48] <vorian> ah, persia
[05:49] <vorian> mike == technoviking
[05:49] <vorian> i think he's just avoiding answering any questions
[05:49] <maco> oh that mike
[05:50] <maco> no answer
[05:50] <vorian> Riddell: what every happens - please don't kick me out of kubuntu-members
[05:50] <vorian> thanks for trying maco
[05:57] <ecinx> anyone knows how to fix the way the fonts look on maverick 10.10
[06:01] <ecinx> i think i fixed it, i hope
[11:17] <apachelogger> hm
[11:18] <apachelogger> ulysses++
[11:21] <Riddell> apachelogger: what's ulysses done?
[11:21] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80pc9jZ_t8
[11:35] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: implicit thumb flag in phonon's rules can be dropped I presume?
[11:35] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes
[11:36] <Tm_T> ScottK: ppc images in need of testing this weekend?
[11:36] <apachelogger> if only it were in bzr ^^
[11:54]  * apachelogger hugs Tm_T
[12:47] <ScottK> Tm_T: No.  Not yet.
[12:57] <Tm_T> ScottK: ok thanks (:
[13:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: will do ... at conf.kde.in along with Riddell and some other minions k?
[13:02] <ScottK> 10.04.2 is done.
[13:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do what?
[13:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the app
[13:02] <apachelogger> k
[13:03] <Riddell> ScottK: see #kubuntu for lucid->maverick upgrade problem, we need to get an updated kdepim into maverick
[13:03] <shadeslayer> schedule app
[13:03] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m44PvFs074U
[13:04] <ScottK> Riddell: OK, but I've got some other stuff I need to get done first.
[13:19] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: hey i'll not be able to come to conf.kde.in :( college internals. will there be any video log uploaded on internet?
[13:24] <shadeslayer> idk
[13:24] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: dude, get internals postponed?
[13:31] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: its exams mate. :( if i'll not give that exam i'll loose my credits and hence my agregate will be affected :(
[13:32] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: i'm not saying don't give them, they're internals right? you can request the college to take them seprately for you at a later date :)
[13:32] <shadeslayer> any how, sorry to hear that it's not working out for you :(
[13:32] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: i'll try ;/
[13:32] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:33] <apachelogger> <-- kernel build master
[13:34] <shadeslayer> aaaaannnnddd ... they *finally* released GTK3
[13:34] <apachelogger> like they actually changed anything
[13:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bumped so version and added " Hey we released GTK3 after a bazillion years " to the changelog
[13:35] <ScottK> Riddell: Can you get whoever it is in #kubuntu to file a bug so we have something to hang the SRU verification on.
[13:37] <Riddell> ScottK: that's not "whoever" that's dfaure, the more elite KDE coder ever!
[13:38] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  Whoever files it, we'll need a bug.
[13:38] <Riddell> ScottK: how to file the bug such that it'll be found again?
[13:38] <ScottK> Give me the bug number and I'll remember it.
 ScottK: that's not "whoever" that's dfaure, the more elite KDE coder ever!
[13:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: more like the most elite koder with a 1000 clones of himself
[13:43] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 721269
[13:43] <ScottK> Thanks.
[13:50] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04.2-release
[14:19] <apachelogger> this channel is very boring today :/
[14:19] <apachelogger> kubotu_: order coffee
[14:19]  * kubotu_ slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger.
[14:19] <apachelogger> kubotu_: why do you have a suffix?
[14:19] <apachelogger> kubotu_: rename kubotu
[14:19] <apachelogger> kubotu_: what was that command again?
[14:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: possibly make it reconnect
[14:22] <apachelogger> well
[14:22] <apachelogger> there was a dedicated cmd for that -.-
[14:22] <apachelogger> kubotu_: save
[14:22] <kubotu_> can do!
[14:22] <apachelogger> kubotu_: restart
[14:23] <shadeslayer> toldya
[14:25] <Riddell> apachelogger: some of us have code to write! :)
[14:25] <shadeslayer> and some of us have exams once again
[14:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what should that scheduling app do btw?
[14:26] <apachelogger> show the schedule
[14:26] <apachelogger> ultimately hooked up with launchpad so that one can list sessions that one is subscribed to
[14:26] <apachelogger> (or subscribe to new ones for that matter)
[14:27] <shadeslayer> hmm..
[14:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so show the sessions on a calendar ( i wonder if kontact has kparts to do this ), API calls to subscribe etc
[14:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I would avoid KDE api to keep it portable for e.g. maemo ;)
[14:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ can we do that during conf.kde.in ?
[14:29] <shadeslayer> hehe :)
[14:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also reduces KDE Deps, so can be installed without taking up alot of disk space
[14:30] <apachelogger> http://willthompson.co.uk/sojourner/
[14:30] <apachelogger> something like that
[14:31] <shadeslayer> *click*
[14:31] <apachelogger> just with actual user experience and not done in pyth0rn ;)
[14:31] <apachelogger> calendar view should help with that
[14:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh .. what's calendar view?
[14:32] <apachelogger> a view of a calendar :P
[14:32] <shadeslayer> i mean ... is it a Qt class?'
[14:33] <apachelogger> unlikely
[14:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should use QML :P
[14:33] <shadeslayer> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/richtext-calendar.html
[14:33] <apachelogger> otherwise you have problems with deployment to android ;)
[14:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah, i know, i'm sure we will have a code sprint wrt QML at conf.kde.in
[14:34] <shadeslayer> so i guess we can pitch that idea and come up with something
[14:34] <apachelogger> ewww
[14:34] <apachelogger> that example is
[14:34] <apachelogger> ...
[14:34] <apachelogger> brrr
[14:34] <apachelogger> in need of grantlee :D
[14:34] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:44] <apachelogger> ScottK: something is broken with our arm builders
[15:44] <apachelogger> they constantly do ccache stuff...
[15:44] <apachelogger> and with a kernel build that then results in the kernel wanting to build stuff with ccache it would seem
[15:47] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  Please fix.
[15:49] <apachelogger> ScottK: if only I knew how :S
[15:51] <eMyller> 'lo again people
[15:52] <eMyller> anyone seen sheytan or ofirk these days?
[15:52] <eMyller> those guys are gone
[15:52] <ScottK> apachelogger: Does export CCACHE_DISABLE=1 help any?
[15:52] <apachelogger> might
[15:52]  * apachelogger wonders why it defaults to ccache to begin with
[15:53] <apachelogger> oh
[15:53] <apachelogger> hoooray
[15:53] <apachelogger> bufferclass_ti.ko:
[15:53] <apachelogger> Running module version sanity check.
[16:13] <bambee> hi
[17:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: I think the old pbuilder is just crap
[17:05] <ScottK> Could be.
[17:17] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[17:26] <Riddell> hi rbelem
[17:27] <rbelem> Riddell, i updated the patch http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/
[17:28] <rbelem> Riddell, when samba is not installed it shows a message and a buttom in the place of the addshare form
[17:28] <apachelogger_> http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/s/612/  I might note that the dropdown looks funny
[17:29] <rbelem> Riddell, but kpackagekit is not installing the package
[17:29] <rbelem> apachelogger_, :-D
[17:29] <rbelem> Riddell, i call it but it is not working
[17:29] <rbelem> Riddell, do you have a clue?
[17:30] <rbelem> apachelogger_, but is it looking nice?
[17:31] <apachelogger_> no, it looks funny
[17:31] <rbelem> apachelogger_, hum... funny means that i should replace the dropdown?
[17:32] <Riddell> the dropdown looks fine to me
[17:32] <apachelogger_> well
[17:33] <apachelogger_> it is not so much the dropdown as the thing as a whole
[17:33] <Riddell> rbelem: "private Q_SLOTS:"  what's Q_SLOTS?
[17:33] <apachelogger_> rbelem: it should look like the local permissions tab I suppose
[17:34] <apachelogger_> also using same terminology for that matter
[17:34] <rbelem> Riddell, afiestas asked me to do that
[17:34] <apachelogger_> Riddell: the 3rdparty-safe kind of slots
[17:34] <apachelogger_> Q_SLOTS == slots, except that former can be used in a context where another library wants to use the slots keyword
[17:35] <apachelogger_> therefore libraries should always use Q_SLOTS and Q_SIGNALS
[17:35] <Riddell> pesky other libraries stealing Qt keywords
[17:35]  * rbelem checking the permissions tab
[17:36] <rbelem> apachelogger, hum... there is a advance permission dialog
[17:36] <rbelem> apachelogger, that looks nice
[17:36] <apachelogger> oh gawd
[17:36] <apachelogger> no
[17:37] <apachelogger> rbelem: not by default
[17:37] <apachelogger> that makes my head spin and I am not even a regular user :P
[17:37] <rbelem> apachelogger, hahaha
[17:38] <apachelogger> rbelem: I would go for exactly the same as with the access permission default stuff ... i.e. dropdowns with 3 entries
[17:39] <apachelogger> rbelem: possibly even restrict yourself to the standard unix categories owner/group/world
[17:39] <rbelem> apachelogger, so it would be better to replace the words Deny, Full control and Read Only?
[17:39] <apachelogger> then have an advanced button
[17:39] <apachelogger> where you can give permission on user base and whatnot
[17:39] <rbelem> apachelogger, hum...
[17:40] <apachelogger> having by default a per-user setup will give headaches on a shared system with >1k users
[17:40] <apachelogger> loading all those settings and storing them will kill the dialog very much and make it unusable
[17:41]  * apachelogger wonders whatever happened to the ACL permission ui in KDE
[17:42] <apachelogger> or do we not build with ACL support anymore?
[17:42] <apachelogger> ah
[17:42] <apachelogger> nvm
[17:42] <apachelogger> one needs to mount the partitions with ACL enabled
[17:42]  * apachelogger forgot about that detail ^^
[17:43]  * rbelem is thinking how the ui would look
[17:43] <apachelogger> rbelem: if you enable acl for a partiton and remount you should get yet another dialog option for the ACL
[17:43] <apachelogger> that allows per-user permissions IIRC
[17:43] <apachelogger> so you might want to clone that ui for the advanced thingy
[17:44]  * apachelogger thinks that the local file permissions should simply be made more abstract and reused by the share tab ;)
[17:44] <apachelogger> anyhow
[17:44] <apachelogger> need to pack and leave for train
[17:45] <rbelem> thx apachelogger :-)
[17:45] <rbelem> Riddell, can we go for now with the current ui? :-D
[17:46] <Riddell> rbelem: yes I think we should
[17:46] <Riddell> just compiling it now to check the packagekit stuff
[17:46] <rbelem> sweet :-D
[17:59] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you please add a test case to bug 721269
[18:06] <Riddell> pesky other libraries stealing Qt keywordsmethod call sender=:1.2549 -> dest=org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon serial=145 path=/org/freedesktop/PackageKit; interface=org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Modify; member=InstallPackageNames string "No such method 'InstallPackageNames' in interface 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Modify' at object path '/org/freedesktop/PackageKit' (signature 'iasas')"
[18:06] <Riddell> hmm
[18:06] <Riddell> rbelem: it's on the sessionBus not the systemBug
[18:06] <Riddell> rbelem: it's on the sessionBus not the systemBus
[18:06] <Riddell> but there's still something wrong with the method arguments
[18:07] <rbelem> Riddell, :-(
[18:07] <rbelem> Riddell, have you seen danti?
[18:09] <Riddell> he's moving country I believe
[18:11] <ximion> Riddell: yes, he is... very sad for Apper, cause the development slowed down ;)
[18:11] <rbelem> Riddell, wow! where is he going?
[18:12] <Riddell> I don't know
[18:13] <ScottK> Odd that both he and JonTheEchnida vanished at the same time.
[18:13] <ScottK> Maybe they met to have a packagement shootout and canceled each other out?
[18:17] <rbelem> brb
[18:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: What is this NODM stuff?
[18:20] <Quintasan> on Todo?
[18:20] <Riddell> Quintasan: it's a login manager for kubuntu mobile
[18:20] <Quintasan> Oh
[18:20] <Riddell> it logs you in without and dialogue or whatever
[18:21] <Riddell> it should go onto the mobile images once launchpad merge the task change
[18:38] <Riddell> rbelem: meh, i can't work out
[18:39] <Riddell> it's something to do with the qstringlist being right
[18:39] <Riddell> QStringList interaction  that's not right according to
[18:39] <Riddell> qdbus org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon /org/freedesktop/PackageKit
[18:39] <Riddell> it should be a list
[18:39] <Riddell> but even then it doesn't work
[18:39] <Riddell> patch is good to ship once that's sorted
[18:39] <Riddell> ask on #kde-devel I guess, they should know
[18:39]  * Riddell out for a bit
[18:41] <debfx> shadeslayer: due to your dcmtk upload some packages are uninstallable: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libdcmtk1
[18:42] <debfx> a rebuild should fix them
[18:52] <ScottK> Ohhhh.  I've seen this exact problem: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/6513/
[18:53] <bambee> I missed something of "remember authorization" in polkit-kde-agent does not work ?
[18:53] <bambee> s/of/or/
[18:53] <kubotu> bambee meant: "I missed something or "remember authorization" in polkit-kde-agent does not work ?"
[18:53] <bambee> kubotu: you won a cookie
[18:54] <Quintasan> someone should really turn off this damn feature
[18:54] <Quintasan> kubotu: order cookies for kubotu
[18:54]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to kubotu.
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[19:28] <Daskreech> What's the var for ~/.kde ?
[19:32] <yofel> Daskreech: KDEHOME I think, let me check
[19:32] <Daskreech> Thansk
[19:32] <Daskreech> thanks
[19:32] <bambee> Daskreech: KDEHOME
[19:32] <bambee> http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#KDEHOME
[19:32] <yofel> xep, KDEHOME
[19:33] <Daskreech> Hmm
[19:33] <Daskreech> funky
[19:33] <bambee> in case of doubt techbase is your friend ;)
[19:33] <JontheEchidna> Shytlman started to do something like this at UDS-M in Belgium: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Titlebar+menu?content=138804
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> granted, he was actually trying to put the menu *in* the title bar, and not as a hover thing
[19:35] <ScottK> Heya JontheEchidna.
[19:35] <JontheEchidna> hi
[19:36] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Did I ever discuss the backports-not-automatic spec and it's implications for application install/update managers
[19:37] <JontheEchidna> If you did, I don't recall
[19:39] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: OK.  Short version is that one will no longer automatically upgrade to a backports version.  One will have to ask for it.
[19:39] <ScottK> So there's a need to distinguish backports update candidates from regular updates for the user.
[19:39] <JontheEchidna> is this change being made at the APT level? (Any tech spec sheet?)
[19:39] <ScottK> Yes.
[19:39] <ScottK> It's in Natty now.
[19:40] <ScottK> Let me find the spec.
[19:40] <Daskreech> bambee: good point
[19:42] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-foundations-n-backports-notautomatic
[19:43] <bambee> Daskreech: techbase and api.kde.org both rock :D
[19:44] <yofel> ScottK: how do you see those from an apt-get point of view now? pinned?
[19:44] <ScottK> Riddell: pim and pim-runtime for Maverick uploaded.
[19:44] <ScottK> yofel: Yes.
[19:44] <yofel> ok
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> QApt/Muon already respect pins
[19:45] <ScottK> The big change is that apt has been fixed to correctly pull needed depdencies from the not automatic repository.
[19:45] <yofel> aaah, that's nice :)
[19:46] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Yes.  The real issue I think you might want to address is in Muon showing -updates and -backports differently to the user.
[19:46] <ScottK> It's possible a user could have updates to the same package in both and they should have some idea that -updates is fixes and -backports is new features with some incremental risk of regression.
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> If the package is pinned lower than the candidate version from the main repositories it will not be shown as upgradeable either
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> since in APT
[19:48] <JontheEchidna> 's eyes the pinning makes the NotAutomatic pocket packages not the candidate version
[19:48] <ScottK> This is where I don't really understand that details (you may want to talk to mvo).
[19:49] <ScottK> It's my understanding that both would be 'visible' fsvo visible.
[19:49] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I'll probably do that'
[19:49] <ScottK> He's got ideas on how to support it in Software Center.
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> If I understand the tech spec, the main issue is, as you said, to be able to show more experienced users that -backports updates are available if they want them
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> but currently Muon will respect the pinning and not offer the -backports packages for upgrades
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> so this is probably more of a new feature
[19:51] <ScottK> Yes.
[19:51] <ScottK> It'd be nice for users to be able to see the backports as a GHNS like option.
[19:51] <jjesse> deos
[19:51] <jjesse> doh
[19:52] <ScottK> Riddell: pim and pim-runtime for maverick uploaded.  Waiting for your test case and ubuntu-sru to accept.
[19:53] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: I'll put that on the feature list for Muon 1.2. I plan on redoing the GUI of the updater app entirely, as its currently just a stripped down version of Muon. The GUI could be made much more updater-centric
[19:54] <JontheEchidna> Ihttp://i.imgur.com/HKT2y.png <- a bunch of that stuff would not be useful for the average person updating their system
[19:54] <JontheEchidna> http://i.imgur.com/HKT2y.png
[19:54] <yofel> ScottK: who needs to be subscribed to sync requests again?
[19:55] <ScottK> yofel: ubuntu-archvie after they are approved by an ubunth-dev.  ubuntu-sponsors to get them approved.
[19:55] <yofel> thx
[20:02] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[20:05] <jjesse> ok with today's daily on virtualbox i get pass the keyboard section of the install then the installer disappers
[20:05] <jjesse> also trying to report the bug fails as rekonq still crashes everytime i launch it on the live cd
[20:05] <jjesse> running today's daily amd 64
[20:11] <ScottK> Currently there's an eglibc issue on amd64 that's making all kinds of things crash.
[20:15] <jjesse> ah
[20:15] <jjesse> ok i guess i will wait still
[22:21] <debfx> yay, another armel+sip build failure: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/64675210/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.qgis_1.4.0%2B12730-5ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
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[03:00] <claudiu> hi all
[03:00] <claudiu> anybody around here ?
[03:01] <claudiu> I could use some help because I want to setup a web server on a powermac 7600
[04:32] <dura> anyone else get an md5sum mismatch today after apt-get update?
[04:33] <infinity> update again, you caught a mirror pulse.
[04:34] <dura> okay
[04:34] <dura> that makes me nervous sometimes lol
[04:35] <dura> dapper apt-get update went fine ... but I got the error on dapper-server.
[04:35] <dura> heh... update servers are swamped atm
[04:37] <infinity> dapper and dapper server use the same repositories and the same mirrors.
[04:37] <infinity> If one works, the other works.  If you catch a mirror during an update, it'll have a few seconds (or even a minute or two, if it's a slow mirror) where it's inconsistent.
[04:39] <dura> So Dapper Desktop and Dapper Server use the same mirrors?
[04:42] <infinity> Same packages, same infrastructure, yes.
[04:42] <infinity> The differences are in the packages selections we ship on the CD, but on the mirrors, it's all just "Ubuntu".
[04:43] <spike> speaking of, is there an md5sum database available somewhere you can check binaries against?
[04:44] <spike> I think fabbione was working on it, actually it was done iirc
[04:45] <infinity> We never got the infrastructure in place to roll it out officially, though it's still down there on someone's TODO.
[04:45] <dura> infinity: Nice to know...
[04:45] <infinity> I suspect I'll bump it back up to the top of my TODO for edgy+1.
[04:45] <spike> infinity: is it possible to have the code?
[04:45] <dura> But I'm still getting md5sum mismatch
[04:46] <dura> just did apt-get update too
[04:46] <spike> cause I run a mirro locally so I can easily implement it there
[04:46] <spike> for the LAN, on some ro media
[04:46] <infinity> spike: You'd have to poke Fabio.  I'm not sure where he had ths code.
[04:46] <infinity> s/ths/the/
[04:50] <fabbione> spike: it's partially done
[04:50] <fabbione> infinity: infrastructure is in place now
[04:50] <fabbione> waiting for me to do the final test once i can get to build some custom/test CD
[04:51] <infinity> fabbione: Oh, cool.
[04:52] <fabbione> i think we only miss elmo to hook up the generation script to end of rsync mirror
[04:52] <fabbione> and me to test the udeb on cd
[04:52] <fabbione> after that it's only a matter of improving the code and the amount of tests
[05:04] <dura> yep... still get md5sum mismatches
[05:05] <infinity> Which mirror are you using?
[05:05] <dura> For which packages?
[05:05] <dura> security? or...
[05:05] <infinity> The one giving the mismatch.
[05:06] <dura> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/binary-i386/
[05:06] <dura> and
[05:06] <dura> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source
[05:06] <dura> on both an amd64 and 3 x86 machines
[05:06] <infinity> You run dapper-backports on a server?  Brave man.
[05:07] <infinity> Anyhow, try s/us.// (ie: just archive.ubuntu.com) and see if it likes you more.
[05:08] <dura> lol
[05:08] <dura> okay...
[05:09] <dura> actually I don't know why I enabled it becaause I'm not using nay packages from it lol
[05:09] <infinity> Oh, hrm, it's mismatched on the main archive too.
[05:09] <infinity> Awesome.
[05:11] <dura> lol
[05:11] <infinity> I have our archive wizards looking into it.
[05:13] <dura> okay cool
[05:16] <dura> Who do I talk to about a few howto's that are incorrect/incomplete?
[05:17] <infinity> Depends on where you found the HOWTO..
[05:20] <linnuxxy> hi
[05:21] <linnuxxy> i use dapper... how to know if it support POSIX Threading Library (NPTL)?
[05:21] <dura> Hang on let me retrieve the link...
[05:22] <linnuxxy> ok... if u r talking to me :D
[05:22] <infinity> linnuxxy: dapper uses NPTL, yes.
[05:23] <dura> heh... it's been edited.
[05:23] <dura> good
[05:23] <dura> I hope no one else spent 3 days trying to use it like me lol
[05:23] <linnuxxy> thnx infinity....but is there a command to show this?
[05:33] <infinity> linnuxxy: /lib/libc.so.6
[05:34] <infinity> Yes, the library is executable.
[05:34] <infinity> Available extensions:
[05:34] <infinity>         crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others
[05:34] <infinity>         GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson
[05:34] <infinity>         GNU libio by Per Bothner
[05:34] <infinity>         NIS(YP)/NIS+ NSS modules 0.19 by Thorsten Kukuk
[05:34] <infinity>         Native POSIX Threads Library by Ulrich Drepper et al
[05:34] <infinity>         BIND-8.2.3-T5B
[05:34] <infinity> Thread-local storage support included.
[05:34] <infinity> NPTL and TLS are what you're looking for there.
[06:35] <linnuxxy> how to run as another user in ubuntu...as su seems not working to me?
[06:36] <linnuxxy> how to run as another user in ubuntu bash shell...as su seems not working to me?
[07:54] <linnuxxy> how to install gmake on dapper?
[10:47] <Gargoyle> Any suggestions for postfix config options to filter spam?
[10:47] <Gargoyle> I wanted to use only programs from the main repository
[10:49] <ivoks> rbl
[10:50] <ivoks> there are many ways to fight spam...
[10:51] <ivoks> none is 100% efficiant, and best I've found is greylisting...
[10:54] <Gargoyle> Do you use postfix's own greylist.pl?
[10:55] <Gargoyle> And are there any other standard config directives I should enter first?
[10:56] <Gargoyle> Currently I have: permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination in smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[10:58] <ivoks> postfix has many options
[10:58] <ivoks> you can use postgrey for greylisting
[10:58] <ivoks> but, it's in universe
[10:58] <Gargoyle> Yeah, just scrolling through postconf.5.html now!
[10:59] <ivoks> smtpd_recipient = reject_invalid_hostname, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, reject_unauth_pipelining, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination, reject_maps_rbl, check_policy_service
[10:59] <ivoks> for example...
[11:01] <ivoks> i would suggest reading documentation and howtos
[11:01] <Gargoyle> reading now...
[11:01] <ivoks> there isn't "a solution", but many solutions
[11:13] <Gargoyle> Ahh, some of those have moved to smtpd_helo_restrictions :)


[01:48] <hyperair> there seems to be interest in getting a nonpae kernel build into universe. does anyone have any objections to that?
[02:49] <xnox> hyperair: there is a lot of interest to gather a whitelist of actually pae capable, but not-declared as such, cpu IDS. Writing a patch like that & upstreaming would be great as it will unable stock kernels to be executed on those kernels.
[02:50] <hyperair> s/unable/enable?
[02:50] <xnox> yes =)
[02:50] <hyperair> i see.
[02:50] <hyperair> xnox: is there any effort ongoing to do that already?
[02:51] <xnox> hyperair: i haven't actually seen requests for nonpae CPU support, it's just there are a few popular CPUs that support it, but don't have it declared in the flags.
[02:51] <xnox> hyperair: there is a lot of CPU ids pasted to the bug report.
[02:51] <hyperair> well a certain phillw has been raising hell over it.
[02:51] <hyperair> nonpae cpu support, that is
[02:51] <hyperair> he'd like nonpae support in the next lubuntu lts if possible
[02:51] <xnox> hyperair: but no actual kernel hackers / or anybody else writting a patch to the PAE check to be ignored on whitelisted CPUids.
[02:52] <hyperair> but that's the fakePAE hack right?
[02:52] <hyperair> what about machines that really don't support PAE?
[02:53] <xnox> hyperair: in my experience, phillw has only one critically setting for all issues =)
[02:53] <hyperair> only phillw?
[02:53] <hyperair> i thought he was lobbying on behalf of a bunch of other people
[02:54] <xnox> hyperair: he really does not....
[02:54]  * hyperair sighs
[02:55] <xnox> hyperair: nonpae kernels are really acient e.g. pre-1995, ubuntu only started in 2004. I see no reason to support CPUs from 1994, because really, they are worthless and use more power to run, then the cost to upgrade.
[02:56] <xnox> hyperair: the whitelist thing should happen, imho. But those who want/need it should implement it. E.g. Lubuntu developers.
[02:57] <hyperair> xnox: power might actually be free in some old rental apartments in some parts of the world. ;-)
[02:58] <xnox> hyperair: but internet is not free in those appartments to download lubuntu 14.04 on release day, when it really does not ship for free to old rental apartments in some parts of the world ;-)
[02:58] <hyperair> eh no
[02:58] <hyperair> in singapore some apartments have fixed-rate utility charges included in the rental
[02:58] <hyperair> even today.
[02:59] <xnox> hyperair: you can argue there are apartments with both free internet and power, but then i'd say that apartment is unlikely to have nonpae CPUs.
[02:59] <xnox> hyperair: fixed-rate is not free.
[02:59] <hyperair> not free, but still unaffected by the amount of electricity you use
[02:59] <hyperair> and if an old machine lands on you and you want to run it as a headless tiny server, it might actually be a good idea.
[03:00] <hyperair> but eh, 1995... i don't really care about such old machines myself.
[03:00] <xnox> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_Pro is the first one to support PAE. Max. CPU clock rate	150 MHz to 200 MHz
[03:00] <hyperair> ._.
[03:00] <xnox> I can emulate that in qemu, probably at full speed, and check if lubuntu even boots on that in less than 30minutes =)
[03:00] <hyperair> ugh
[03:09] <hyperair> xnox: wiki says earlier variants of the pentium M didn't support PAE.
[03:09] <hyperair> or rather, it was disabled
[03:09] <hyperair> was there some way to enable it on those?
[03:18] <hyperair> xnox: looks like pentium 2 doesn't have PAE support.
[05:35] <JanC> xnox: I could boot Ubuntu 4.10 with a full GNOME desktop on a Pentium MMX laptop with 64 MiB RAM and a 3200rpm HDD in way less than 30 minutes...  ;-)
[05:37] <JanC> using CRUX + XFCE around the same time, it booted in < 1 min even
[05:38] <JanC> that Pentium MMX was 166 MHz BTW


[18:47] <bekks> giri: Please answer my question.
[18:47] <giri> akik: yes ,http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10934683/how-do-i-configure-qt-for-cross-compilation-from-linux-to-windows-target
[18:48] <giri> bekks :no i am not so much familier with this mxe tool . I just want to build my .exe anyhow from qt
[18:48] <giri> project
[18:48] <curlyears> heigh hough
[18:48] <curlyears> giri:  project what?
[18:48] <bekks> giri: Why dont you just follow their official tutorial then?
[18:50] <giri> I dont want to spend so much time for reading long tutorial. if you have any other option to create .exe then tell me
[18:50] <giri> please
[18:50] <Mishari> eat kiri
[18:50] <bekks> giri: Just read the official tutorial. Cross compiling isnt something that you can do in ten minutes.
[18:50] <curlyears> Ph, you want US to do your research for you, eh?
[18:50] <giri> curlyears: qt project
[18:51] <curlyears> s/Ph/Eh
[18:51] <bekks> giri: Yes, it is your project, so it is your research. :)
[18:51] <giri> bekks: ok can you please suggest any good tool for cross compiling..
[18:52] <bekks> giri: Your webbrowser, for readng the tutorial given.
[18:52] <curlyears> the linux toolchain is excellent for cross-cvompiling, but it doesn require that you read and understad the instuctions
[18:52] <giri> bekks: ok buddy! nice to give me more trouble ! but atlast you ubuntu buddy rocks! thanks for your support !
[18:53] <giri> bekks: thank you :)
[18:53] <moat_joe> I think when I launch things from cron I'm getting different limits applied.   An even more dangerous problem than refusing to read the documentation.
[18:55] <SchrodingersScat> won't make things better
[18:57] <curlyears> we have one guy over in ##electonics that won't read anything for himself.  When pushed on it, he admits he to too dumb, and doesn't understand what he is trying to read.  *snort*
[18:58] <nick845782034909> can anyone here help me with  a problem I'm having with python & pip?
[18:58] <Pici> nick845782034909: perhaps, but #python might be a better place to asl.
[18:58] <nick845782034909> thanks!
[18:59] <curlyears> nick845782034909: not I.  I know virtually nothing about python, except that it is a programming (scripting, more like) language
[18:59] <vacho> my ubuntu web server is rejecting connections on port 8889, how can I open this?
[18:59] <Pici> (note you need to be registered/identified to nickserv to join #python)
[19:00] <Pici> vacho: Have you told your web server to listen on that port?
[19:00] <avid_fan> vacho: Are you sure it's configured to listen on port 8889?
[19:00] <curlyears> vacho:  it takes a special cam opener, only avauilabel  on Wednesdays, from a dealer on aliexpress
[19:00] <curlyears> sorry, guys, couldn't resist
[19:00] <vacho> Pici: yes, it's listening on port 8889
[19:01] <Pici> vacho: Can you pastebin the relevant line from netstat -tanp
[19:03] <vacho_> sorry got disconnected, I am able to confirm my server is running on port 8889 by doing "wget <IP_ADDRESS>:8889"
[19:04] <vacho_> [Thu Sep  1 12:04:05 2016] ::1:42484 [404]: / - No such file or directory
[19:04] <Zygodaktor> test test test
[19:04] <SchrodingersScat> !test | Zygodaktor
[19:04] <Zygodaktor> haha
[19:05] <vacho_> http://pastebin.com/VGpQfSSF
[19:05]  * curlyears slips Zygodaktor a digital mickey
[19:06] <Pici> vacho_: I don't see port 8889 anywhere there.  Also, port 8888 is only being listened for on your ipv6 connection.
[19:07] <vacho_> Pici: I am trying to connect in 8889 now
[19:07] <vacho_> Pici: it worked!
[19:07] <curlyears> vacho_:  there is no entry for port 8889 in your table
[19:07] <vacho_> what I did was following, instead of connecting to localhost, I tried connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>, and that made it work.
[19:08] <Zygodaktor> I swear I'm so bad at this
[19:08] <curlyears> whatcha neesd, Zygodaktor?
[19:08] <curlyears> need
[19:09] <Zygodaktor> It's cool, pretty new to linux, installed today and fumbling about :P
[19:09] <Zygodaktor> Keep accidentally terminating stuff
[19:10] <curlyears> Zygodaktor: wait until you overwrite your OS a few times, then you'll know REAL frustation
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> Zygodaktor  type   man woman
[19:11] <Zygodaktor> ?
[19:15] <nick845782034909> I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu. Anyone have any thoughts on where I might begin to get some help with a python/pip/ubuntu rat's nest problems? I've tried #python, but the room is empty.
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> !python
[19:15] <curlyears> MonkeyDust: naughty Monkey!
[19:15] <curlyears> did you try #python?
[19:16] <curlyears> ahhh.
[19:16] <curlyears> what is "pip?"
[19:16] <Pici> nick845782034909: You need to be registered and identifed to join #python
[19:16] <nick845782034909> I've tried both. I guess I'm asking for help getting help
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> or the suggested url
[19:16] <Pici> !register | nick845782034909
[19:16] <Pici> nick845782034909: I also haven't heard you ask an actual question :)
[19:18] <curlyears> Newbie Question of SUicide:  Does anyone in this channel know how I can get my computer to do that windows thingiwe?"
[19:20] <EriC^^> how to use mtp?
[19:23] <Guest58767> h
[19:26] <mundus2018> I pdated some firewall rules when seetting up openvpn and locked myself out :3
[19:26] <mundus2018> and idk what to do now
[19:27] <mundus2018> I can boot into a rescue system
[19:30] <nick845782034909> ubuttu, where do i type these things?
[19:30] <mustmodify__> I'm getting the following error. "/usr/local/lib/prince/bin/prince: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Does that mean that libcurl.so is missing? Or that something in libcurl's headers is missing? I kind of assume it's the latter but just wanted to verify.
[19:33] <bekks> mustmodify__: It means that libcurl.so.4 is missing.
[19:33] <robattila256> mustmodify__: that error means you need to rebuild the program using libcurl because it's pointing to an older version of libcurl
[19:34] <mustmodify__> ok.
[19:34] <nick845782034909> « /nick <nick845782034909> »
[19:37] <vacho_> I know this is a terrible question, but how do I run a command (that will continue to run in the background) and then get my prompt back
[19:38] <mundus2018> put a & at the end
[19:38] <vacho_> got it thanks
[19:38] <vacho_> and how to I go back to cancel the process?
[19:38] <vacho_> kill pid?
[19:39] <mundus2018> yeah
[19:39] <mundus2018> it says the pid when you start it
[19:41] <Sagar> hello, i have few .mp4 files almost size of 550MB each
[19:41] <Sagar> i want to download them to my desktop
[19:42] <mundus2018> on your server?
[19:42] <Sagar> hello, i have few .mp4 files almost size of 550MB each on my ubuntu 16.04 server, i want to download them to my desktop, which is the best compression method or zip method so that i can zip or 7zip or lrzip them all to the minimum size possible and download them?
[19:42] <Sagar> mundus2018: yes
[19:43] <mundus2018> zip archivename.zip file1 file2 folder1
[19:44] <Sagar> zip doesn't compress much, it just compresses like 4-5mb
[19:44] <mundus2018> mp4 video is already compressed
[19:44] <mundus2018> your arent going to get much more out of it
[19:44] <Sagar> :|
[19:45] <mundus2018> you can run it through ffmpeg to transcode it to a lower quality
[19:46] <Sagar> i want to maintain the quality as well
[19:46] <nick845782034909> can anyone help me with the registration process?
[19:46] <mundus2018> but 1% compression is abbout all you're gunna get
[19:46] <mundus2018> for freenode nick845782034909 ?
[19:46] <nick845782034909> yes
[19:46] <nick845782034909> where do i type the stuff?
[19:46] <OerHeks> !register
[19:46] <OerHeks> help in #freenode
[19:47] <mundus2018> just just type it whereever
[19:47] <nick845782034909> yeah, i'm reading that site. (I can't get into #freenode, this seems to be the only room i can enter) The site says to type this stuff in a server tab. what's that? where can I find it?
[19:48] <mundus2018> just type it in the chat box
[19:48] <Pici> nick845782034909: you can just type the info where you are typing to us, just be sure to start your commands with a / and there are no spaces in front of that.
[19:49] <nick845782034909> okay thanks I'll try that
[20:00] <dmcglone> Hey all, why doesn't  Ubuntu Software show packages like mySQL or PHP7 etc etc?
[20:00] <pragmatism> 	I just set up an Ubuntu server (16.04) in my house, and added my authorized_key for my main computer so I can dial in.  When the machine boots, I get an Permission denied (publickey). when I try to connect, but if I walk over to the server and login, I can then login from my client machine with no problem.  What am I doing wrong?
[20:03] <pragmatism> Like, if I walk over to the server and log in, then I can connect via ssh from my other computer.  But until I log in to the server itself, I get permission denied publickey
[20:03] <pragmatism> *from my remote machine
[20:04] <SchrodingersScat> pragmatism: encryption on disk?
[20:04] <pragmatism> SchrodingersScat Ohhh yup.
[20:04] <pragmatism> SchrodingersScat Suppose I should, what, disable that?
[20:04] <SchrodingersScat> pragmatism: may have something to do with it, not sure what a fix is but maybe that helps your google-fu ?
[20:04] <pragmatism> Awesome, thanks SchrodingersScat
[20:05] <SchrodingersScat> good luck, maybe someone else here has more to go on
[20:20] <Jeffery> I think ubuntu one just got hacked I just got 25 password reset emails
[20:20] <Jeffery> how can I find out who requested the password resets
[20:23] <OerHeks> Jeffery, not sure where to ask, #ubuntu-website or #ubuntu-ops?
[20:24] <Jeffery> I use lastpass and I dont see any logins to that other than my own
[20:24] <Jeffery> and I use 2 factor auth for lastpass
[20:24] <Privateer> can anyone help me with a problem booting ubuntu?  I keep getting tossed to a (initramfs) prompt instead of a prompt
[20:25] <Bashing-om> Jeffery: I checked my Email account, and no notices received for me .
[20:28] <Dinosauro> Hey
[20:28] <Dinosauro> kittos
[20:29] <Jeffery> I just checked https://login.ubuntu.com/activity and only my IP address shows up
[20:29] <Jeffery> so far thats a good thing
[20:29] <Jeffery> it still is an alarming ammount of password reset emails
[20:32] <Jeffery> I also find it horrible that the requesting IP address was not included in the password reset email
[20:33] <Jeffery> and the link in the emails are http and not https
[20:34] <Jeffery> oh well just gonna delete them and change my password on the https website
[20:37] <danielthebague>  hi folks, i have the task for setting up a small business network! consisting of 5 ubuntu/win dual boot laptop and one windows laptop!!
[20:37] <danielthebague> each laptop is connected to the wired LAN with a NFS when laptop are used do they have to be connected to the same cable each time or will dhcp configure each laptop when plugged into the LAN even if connected at different places each time within the LAN
[20:37] <getbart> hey
[20:37] <getbart> daniel
[20:37] <danielthebague> hi getbart
[20:37] <getbart> whats up
[20:38] <getbart> dude
[20:38] <danielthebague> just after some advice from above
[20:38] <getbart> hi
[20:41] <abaldygle> danielthebague:   Depends.....if they move around they should get the same IP  if within the life cycle of the DHCP lease.   If that small static them or set reservations.
[20:42] <danielthebague> i believe each laptop will be moved per user to a random ethernet connected point
[20:42] <danielthebague> different points each time of use
[20:43] <abaldygle> the port doesnt matter    DHCP keys off the mac address....this is probably off topic here anyway.
[20:44] <StregaLi> ciao
[20:46] <k1l> danielthebague: sounds like a question for #networking
[20:46] <Vad3r> hi, what does the ubuntu server do?
[20:46] <danielthebague> ok thanks i will ask there
[20:47] <k1l> Vad3r: it does what you says it should do.
[20:47] <abaldygle> whatever you configure it for????
[20:47] <Vad3r> k1l, can I sudo apt install etc? I wanna try and use this: ubuntu-16.04.1-preinstalled-server-armhf+raspi2.img.xz
[20:47] <Vad3r> but don't want the bloatware from the desktop image
[20:48] <Jeffery> ubuntu and bash are coming to windows?
[20:48] <k1l> Vad3r: that is an image for a rpi2. and it got that installed what the guy installed who made that iso.
[20:48] <Jeffery> and already included in beta versions of windows?
[20:48] <Vad3r> k1l, right but that doesn't answer my question...
[20:48] <k1l> !ubuwin | Jeffery
[20:49] <k1l> Vad3r: i dont know what the guy preinstalled from where you got that image from.
[20:49] <dragly> Hi. I found the qtpurchasing-opensource-src package on Launchpad and I'm wondering if it's possible to locate the sources (bzr I suppose) of this package anywhere?
[20:49] <Jeffery> that . at the end makes it hard to right click and join the channel
[20:49] <Jeffery> X_X
[20:49] <dragly> I found a .tar.xz with a diff that modifies QtPurchasing to include Ubuntu's purchasing APIs, and although I can run this diff on the sources myself, I'd love to see the original repo from which this diff was generated.
[20:49] <Vad3r> k1l, the official site: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/16.04.1/release/
[20:49] <Vad3r> k1l, from here, UK: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[20:50] <k1l> Vad3r: than its the base server install. it doesnt have a desktop presinstalled
[20:50] <Vad3r> sigh. I don't want a desktop.
[20:50] <Vad3r> I want to install my own stuff
[20:50] <Vad3r> ...
[20:50] <Vad3r> :/
[20:50] <k1l> Vad3r: that is what i said...
[20:50] <mundus2018> Can someone help me figure out why im locked out of my system
[20:50] <Vad3r> no it's not.
[20:51] <k1l> …
[20:51] <mundus2018> I installed openvpn and updated firewall rules
[20:51] <Vad3r> can I use apt install etc?
[20:51] <k1l> Vad3r: yes
[20:51] <Vad3r> well, that wasn't too hard xD thanks.
[20:51] <jelly> mundus2018, which firewall rules, using which tool?
[20:52] <mundus2018> this is the guide I followed, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04
[20:53] <mundus2018> I edited /etc/ufw/before.rules
[20:53] <jelly> so you do in fact use ufw
[20:53] <mundus2018> and added this https://i.gyazo.com/bb2765257354a9a58e7607f6b031d455.png
[20:53] <mundus2018> yes I do
[20:53] <jelly> well, undo those changes?
[20:53] <mundus2018> I did
[20:53] <jelly> or disable the ufw service temporarily
[20:54] <mundus2018> Ive tried adding crontab entries bt it doesnt work
[20:54] <jelly> a single MASQUERADE rule shouldn't break ssh access
[20:54] <jelly> something else has to be amiss
[20:55] <salamanderrake> has and yahoo messenger compatable apps shut down/unable to connect for anyone else?
[20:55] <mundus2018> in /etc/default/ufw I changed /etc/default/ufw DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="DROP" to DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT"
[20:55] <jelly> mundus2018, #ubuntu-server may be a nicer, more quiet place than this.  You don't want to do parallel multiple channels
[20:55] <DArqueBishop> salamanderrake: Yahoo Messenger killed access for third-party apps a few weeks ago.
[20:56] <mundus2018> im in there now
[20:56] <tibalize> heey
[20:57] <tibalize> hello octane70
[20:58] <qrobot> Hello
[20:59] <salamanderrake> DArqueBishop: forever?
[21:00] <sankar> hi all
[21:00] <tibalize> hiii
[21:00] <tibalize> wassup
[21:00] <sankar> nothin much
[21:00] <sankar> urself
[21:00] <tibalize> same
[21:00] <tibalize> man
[21:00] <sankar> cool
[21:00] <tibalize> u know how to use reaver?
[21:00] <sankar> this room supposed tobe busy
[21:00] <sankar> reaver?
[21:00] <tibalize> reaver
[21:00] <tibalize> wi fi bruteforce
[21:01] <sankar> no
[21:01] <tibalize> check it
[21:01] <sankar> well
[21:01] <k1l> tibalize: we dont support that in here. if you do this for research you need to read the documentation anyway
[21:01] <tibalize> it's awsome
[21:01] <sankar> is there any way to attack wpa2
[21:01] <tibalize> you can attack wpa2 with reaver
[21:01] <tibalize> but it;s difficult
[21:01] <sankar> what can we do by brute force
[21:01] <sankar> are u serious...
[21:02] <tibalize> yes
[21:02] <k1l> sankar: tibalize as already explained: this is out of this channels scope
[21:02] <DArqueBishop> salamanderrake: most likely, unless the third parties can find around it. Then again, Yahoo doesn't WANT the third parties to access their service anymore.
[21:02] <sankar> which means u r saying there is enough technology to break A
[21:02] <salamanderrake> DArqueBishop: is there a link to a post somewhere?
[21:02] <sankar> AES a;lgorithm
[21:02] <DArqueBishop> s/can find/can find a way/
[21:02] <tibalize> we cant talk here
[21:02] <tibalize> about this
[21:02] <sankar> sorry k1l
[21:02] <tibalize> and i dont know another channel
[21:03] <tibalize> :(
[21:03] <sankar> may be pvt
[21:03] <sankar> ?which channel
[21:03] <sankar> tell me
[21:03] <tibalize> idk
[21:03] <sankar> ok lets join #bore
[21:03] <sankar> sry #bored
[21:03] <tibalize> wich server?
[21:03] <sankar> sounds good
[21:03] <tibalize> ok
[21:03] <DArqueBishop> salamanderrake: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/164444/20160611/yahoo-discontinues-old-messenger-app-yahoo-recommends.htm
[21:03] <sankar> same server, chanel #bored
[21:03] <DArqueBishop> Although, this is very offtopic and needs to go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:04] <sankar> what client r u using for this server
[21:04] <salamanderrake> DArqueBishop: thanks
[21:04] <sankar> irssi
[21:05] <sankar> @tibalize
[21:05] <sankar> msg /tibalize
[21:06] <sankar> hi tibalize
[21:06] <sankar> where have u gone
[21:06] <tibalize_> hi
[21:06] <tibalize_> man
[21:06] <tibalize_> conenct #bored
[21:06] <sankar> i am also in bored channel
[21:06] <tibalize_> we talk there
[21:06] <sankar> i dont see u there
[21:06] <sankar> may be pvt me
[21:07] <tibalize_>  /join bored
[21:08] <sankar> hey tibalize
[21:08] <sankar> one sec
[21:08] <sankar> hold on
[21:08] <sankar> i have joined in separate window
[21:08] <sankar> can u see any users der
[21:08] <k1l> its: /join #channelname
[21:08] <tibalize_> man
[21:08] <tibalize_> i need to go
[21:09] <sankar> ok
[21:09] <tibalize_> reaver it's the name
[21:09] <sankar> i am in the channel i cant see u
[21:09] <tibalize_> u know what to do
[21:09] <sankar> ok
[21:09] <sankar> i will take a look
[21:09] <sankar> thnx
[21:09] <tibalize_> nprob
[21:17] <r4z> I just installed Ubuntu Mate 14.04
[21:17] <r4z> And I'll like to update all the software and repos, how should I proceed?
[21:17] <k1l> r4z: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:18] <r4z> thanks
[21:48] <pinkflrgrl> Dennis Wise is the world famous producer of the video series "The Greatest Story NEVER Told", hailed as the most important documentary in 70 years. Dennis had just finished the last of 21 episodes of his YouTube series, Communism by the Backdoor. Here Dennis talks about Part 20 - WHO'S RUNNING AMERICA.
[21:48] <pinkflrgrl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrCsRAosSl0
[21:49] <jelly> nhandler ^^
[21:49] <jelly> thanks
[21:53] <whlai> pinkflrgrl you for fascism? serious question/
[21:53] <k1l> whlai: he is gone already.
[21:54] <whlai> ahh
[21:54] <whlai> hi k1l
[21:55] <whlai> Here is the guide I'm looking for online. Dual boot with OS on one disk and storage for both on another. Can someone provide link to good guide?
[21:56] <k1l> install a regular dualboot and make the 2nd disk a ntfs partition and mount that where you like on ubuntu in fstab
[21:57] <whlai> I actually want both (windows and ubuntu) home folders to be on the second drive as well
[21:57] <whlai> not just use the second drive as extra storage, you know?
[21:58] <OerHeks> windows home folder?
[21:58] <Jeffery> is ubuntu touch a dead project? the channel is 100% dead
[21:58] <k1l> you can do that, but that doesnt work, with both OS using one partition. since windows will not handle ext4 and ubuntu needs ext4 for file permissions.
[21:58] <dax> Jeffery: no, but it's also about 11pm in the timezone a lot of Canonical people are in
[21:59] <whlai> OerHeks: <root>\Users\<username>
[21:59] <k1l> Jeffery: didnt saw you ask a question there. and i dont know how asking that here will help you
[21:59] <OerHeks> Jeffery, you didn't type anything yet
[21:59] <Jeffery> there are 2000 people in her
[21:59] <Jeffery> and like 100 in #ubuntu-touch
[21:59] <whlai> k1l, I'm ok with windows and ubuntu not sharing the same partition. I just want them to share the same disk.
[21:59] <Jeffery> 2000 is a bigger numver
[21:59] <Jeffery> number
[21:59] <whlai> but I want them to both boot from a different disk.
[21:59] <dax> there's 275 in #ubuntu-touch, which is nowhere near dead.
[21:59] <k1l> Jeffery: you got a false concept of irc, channelsize and support.
[22:00] <dax> ^
[22:00] <k1l> whlai: that is no problem for ubuntu. i dont know how windows works with that. ##windows might tell you.
[22:00] <Jeffery> boy I have used irc before you were a thought in your daddy head
[22:00] <whlai> okee dokee. thanks k1l
[22:00] <k1l> whlai: you can make /home a own partition. where that partition is doesnt matter.
[22:00] <whlai> gotcha
[22:01] <whlai> that means I need LVM as an option on intall, correct?
[22:01] <k1l> no
[22:01] <whlai> good thing I asked.
[22:01] <whlai> :D
[22:01] <whlai> What is the process? Pre-partion both disks, then ...?
[22:02] <k1l> make / and swap on first disk, then /home partition on second disk. i dont know how you like to add your windows setup to that. in the ubuntu installer you can point the partitions to be mounted as /, /home and swap in manual partitioning setting.
[22:03] <whlai> gotcha. thanks much
[22:04] <corentin_> hello
[22:04] <whlai> k1l, did you watch Mr Robot last night?
[22:04] <k1l> whlai: no. and i think that is out of the scope in here :)
[22:05] <corentin_> ni
[22:05] <whlai> lol. k.
[22:12] <Disaster_Area> hey. I just got Ubuntu 16.04 and Youtube isn't working for me, any ideas on why that might be?
[22:12] <Sankar> What do u mean YouTube isn't working
[22:12] <hipitihop> Since I upgraded to 16.04 my usb audio headset does not init after boot. I need to run `sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio` to get it going. How can I get this to run at start or correct the issue ?
[22:12] <Disaster_Area> So I go on any video and I get this message:
[22:12] <Sankar> Can u be specific please
[22:13] <Sankar> What msg and what browser
[22:13] <Disaster_Area> Your browser does not currently recognise any of the video formats available
[22:13] <Disaster_Area> and then a thing about html5
[22:13] <Disaster_Area> firefox
[22:13] <OerHeks> !flash
[22:13] <Sankar> Flash
[22:13] <Disaster_Area> ok I thought flash was installed by default but I didn't see it in the addons
[22:13] <quadHelix> Has anybody set up OpenVAS 8 on Ubuntu 14.04 successfully?
[22:14] <Disaster_Area> ok thanks I'll try that if I have any issues w/ it i'll come back
[22:14] <tomreyn> you dont need flash for youtube nowadays, though, and videos should just play fine in a standard firefox installation.
[22:14] <k1l> Disaster_Area: check https://www.youtube.com/html5
[22:14] <Disaster_Area> k1l: I looked there and it didn't help me :x I just wanted to catch a live stream but it started 15 mins ago now
[22:14] <Damien> Hello! What exacly does a "live session" mean?
[22:14] <bithon> hey is there a way to get ubuntu without all the bloatware ?
[22:14] <k1l> Disaster_Area: look at it. do you see the checkmarks?
[22:15] <barfod> there is an ubuntu for tablets?
[22:15] <Disaster_Area> and yea I figured it'd work fine on standard firefox tomreyn tho I have a bunch of add-ons etc installed alrdy b/c I synced before i moved off of Windows 10 :xx
[22:15] <Disaster_Area> yeah k1l
[22:15] <barfod> is there a wubi installer for ubuntu tablets
[22:15] <k1l> Disaster_Area: try with a clean profile again.
[22:15] <k1l> barfod: wubi is dead at all.
[22:15] <Disaster_Area> ugh how do I do that
[22:16] <OerHeks> barfod, the regular ubuntu image should work on tablets, and no, wubi is dead
[22:16] <tomreyn> Disaster_Area: so those are likely why it's not working. you can temporarily disable your plugins from the help menu (just push and release Alt to get the menu)
[22:16] <k1l> barfod: and for tablets, you might need some special treatment, but that depends on the exact hardware
[22:16] <renatosilva> will ubuntu server updates address ssl3 disabling?
[22:16] <Damien> What exacly means with an "ubuntu live session"?
[22:16] <Disaster_Area> ok i'll try disabling ad-block
[22:16] <Disaster_Area> that didnt work
[22:16] <Bashing-om> !minimal | bithon
[22:17] <Disaster_Area> and ghostery/noscript arent disabling or blocking anything
[22:17] <OerHeks> Damien, live = running ubuntu without install
[22:17] <hipitihop>  after upgrade to 16.04 usb audio headset does not init after boot. Running `sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio` gets it going. How can I get this to run at start or correct the issue ?
[22:17] <k1l> Disaster_Area: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:17] <Damien> OerHeks: thanks
[22:17] <Bashing-om> barfod: ^ sorry bithon .
[22:17] <Disaster_Area> ok
[22:17] <bithon> Bashing-om: I actually tried Arch Linux and liked it, but found it quite cumbersome to setup everything. How is this different to Arch's way
[22:18] <Disaster_Area> ok great that's installing now
[22:19] <k1l> bithon: what bloatware? you can install the minimal or server install and install only the packages you want. but that means you need to get a clue what you want and what you need.
[22:19] <Disaster_Area> in the meantime I'm having another issue; I have my windows hard drive externally connected but right now Ubuntu isn't picking it up. Earlier I was able to pick it up and with some commands in the terminal get into it and copy files
[22:19] <Bashing-om> bithon: I have not messed with arch in years . Pretty easy and straight forward to setup from minimal IF you know what you want .
[22:19] <bithon> Ah alright, awesome
[22:19] <Disaster_Area> but now I can't see it. Any ideas for a fix?
[22:19] <bithon> I'll give it a go in my vm first
[22:19] <Disaster_Area> Taking it out and putting it back in again isn't working... :x
[22:20] <k1l> Disaster_Area: show the output of "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" here please
[22:20] <Umeaboy> GRUB2 seems to be a bit broken atm.
[22:20] <Disaster_Area> ok
[22:20] <k1l> Umeaboy: not for most users. so what is the issue?
[22:20] <Disaster_Area> http://termbin.com/ry9s
[22:21] <Jeffery> does anyone have any interest in ubuntutouch.org it has expired?
[22:21] <Umeaboy> If I install Mageia first and Ubuntu next to it and check the Advanced flags for Mageia I have at least 5 partitions instead of kernels to boot.
[22:21] <Umeaboy> I have uninstalled/removed GRUB2 from Mageia.
[22:22] <Disaster_Area> also back to the first thing about the apt-get unrestricted extras, it's come up with a EULA thing with a <OK> at the bottom but I can't click it or type anywhere and hitting Enter does nothing either
[22:22] <k1l> Disaster_Area: use space, tab and enter
[22:22] <fer750> Disaster_Area: read all the EULA until end
[22:23] <Disaster_Area> thanks k1l
[22:23] <CodFection> gentoo or ubuntu?
[22:23] <k1l> CodFection: since you ask in here: ubuntu
[22:23] <fer750> Disaster_Area: or try pass to the end
[22:24] <Umeaboy> How can I solve that?
[22:24] <Jeffery> well if no one wants ubuntutouch.org im grabbing it
[22:25] <Disaster_Area> oh i just read the restrictedformats stuff. My laptop is 64-bit so am I still doing the right thing?
[22:26] <Disaster_Area> ok youtube is working now
[22:26] <Disaster_Area> thanks so much k1l  :D
[22:27] <hipitihop> snd-usb-audio is already in /etc/modules so why do I have to run it manually after boot to get my headset working ?
[22:28] <k1l> Disaster_Area: for the usb hdd try another usb port.
[22:29] <Disaster_Area> well my external thing requires 2 usb ports - one for connection, one for power, so I can only do it on that one side
[22:29] <Grandolf> most computers now have several USB ports
[22:29] <Disaster_Area> I just unplugged it and plugged it in and it recognised it now
[22:32] <miko__> I want to install Ubuntu 16.04.1 with a zfs root. I have ext4 /boot partion. I'm currently in a chroot of my system, because grub config doesn't work, and the initrd exits with a busybox. The ZoL Howto says I sould veryfy that the zfs root filesystem is recognisced with "grub-probe /". But It's not recoginised. It exits with "failed to get canoical path of 'rpool/ROOT/ubuntu-'.
[22:35] <miko__> So, what now? And what does that even mean? If that means grub is broken it doesn't matter; I can make grub boot from the cli.
[22:35] <Disaster_Area> can I disable the sound of turning the volume up/down
[22:35] <Disaster_Area> ?
[22:35] <miko__> But the initrd is broken. But that's bad because I can't fix that.
[22:37] <Jeffery> ubuntulab.com is for sale for over $1,000
[22:37] <k1l> !ot | Jeffery
[22:38] <Jeffery> it is ubuntu related
[22:38] <fer750> miko__: man initrd
[22:39] <ubuntu869> How do I optimize Ubuntu for High Traffic (NGINX)
[22:41] <renatosilva> will ubuntu server updates address ssl3 disabling?
[22:46] <fer750> ubuntu869: try lvs filesystem and keep services and ubuntu server +  some amounts of RAM + raid disk to improve speed
[22:46] <fer750> keep minimal services
[22:52] <ubuntu869> fer750 is there something else I can do? Kernel/Network/Socket optimisations? I found some old stuff but not new stuff
[22:55] <fer750> ubuntu869: compile the kernel and put hardware enduring option enabled , dunno more stuff sure there's a lot of them
[22:56] <ubuntu869> Thanks fer750
[22:56] <fer750> lvs permits you scale the server adding machines to a site
[22:56] <fer750> ubuntu869: no problem
[22:57] <stallix> Any lxle user here?
[23:01] <miko> fer750, yeah I know what initrd does. I don't know how to mount zfs on /.
[23:02] <miko> It refuses.
[23:02] <miko> It's fine on other mountspoints, tho.
[23:10] <lunchin> yo?
[23:10] <lunchin> yo?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> lunchin: ubuntu support, just ask your question .
[23:11] <lunchin> i was wondering if anyone knew how to open an administrative file through the terminal
[23:12] <friopy> is there an android emulator for Ubuntu ????
[23:12] <lunchin> nope
[23:12] <lunchin> i don't think so at least
[23:13] <OerHeks> install android in virtualbox ?
[23:13] <lunchin> well that, but not like, a program emulator, not that i'm aware of at least
[23:14] <friopy> virtualbox ??
[23:14] <lunchin> it's like, a computer environment running on your desktop
[23:14] <OerHeks> maybe android studio can emulate, dunno ... https://developer.android.com/studio/install.html
[23:15] <lunchin_> didn't know this was hexchat compatible, weird
[23:15] <lunchin_> huh
[23:15] <lunchin> eh
[23:15] <lunchin> i prefer this
[23:15] <fer750> qemu or so too
[23:16] <lunchin> anyone like undertale?
[23:16] <Wicaeed> Kind of a broad question, but why does the mailutils package come bundled with mysql?
[23:17] <OerHeks> Wicaeed, to mail you if some trigger has happened.
[23:17] <Wicaeed> What should I be using if I just want to use the mail commandline util?
[23:19] <Peppernrino> hello
[23:19] <Peppernrino> sudo dpkg -i cuda-repo-ubuntu1404_7.5-18_amd64.deb
[23:19] <Peppernrino> why doesn't that work for me?
[23:19] <genii> Wicaeed: sendmail and mailutils
[23:20] <lunchin> is anyone using 16.04.01 lts?
[23:20] <Wicaeed> sendmail = ssmtp?
[23:21] <genii> Wicaeed: sendmail is a small mail transport agent. the mailutils is what gives you the mail command
[23:22] <genii> Wicaeed: ssmtp is another small mail transport agent
[23:22] <fer750> Peppernrino: cd /var/cache/apt/archives && dpkg -i ......
[23:22] <fer750> Peppernrino: you need the cache file download in that site or the main tree
[23:24] <Peppernrino> ok
[23:24] <Peppernrino> i'll give it a shot
[23:24] <Peppernrino> been trying to install nvidia drivers for likke a month and a half now lol
[23:24] <Peppernrino> on and off
[23:25] <Disaster_Area> anyone know where
[23:25] <Disaster_Area> localstorage is for firefox on ubuntu 16.04?
[23:25] <Disaster_Area> and if I copy my localstorage which I had for firefox on windows into it should it cause any problems?
[23:26] <OerHeks> Disaster_Area, in ~/.cache/mozilla  an ~/.mozilla
[23:27] <poseidon> I just got a new laptop.  I don't have a usb, but I do have a micro sd.  Can I use that to install ubuntu?
[23:27] <OerHeks> heh, try it, copy your mozilla settings :-D .. i think you need to export/import
[23:28] <dom3mo> SUP MY GLIP GLOPS
[23:29] <Peppernrino> racist
[23:29] <dom3mo> Lets talk about ubuntu son
[23:32] <BillyTheKid> Hey guys. I am trying to repair grub2 using the boot-repair app but in the middle of it requests me to run: sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root" dpkg --configure -a
[23:32] <poseidon> How can I install ubuntu without a CD or USB?
[23:32] <poseidon> I have windows 10 installed currently with internet access
[23:33] <BillyTheKid> the dpkg config continues until I get a "error: cannot read `/dev/sda': Input/output error.". Could anyone help?
[23:33] <k1l> poseidon: pxe install?
[23:33] <OerHeks> poseidon, not, only when you have grub installed already.
[23:34] <OerHeks> pxe and uefi, njummie
[23:34] <vacho_> what is a good place to place .crt files on an ubuntu web server?
[23:34] <k1l> uefi, who uses that modern stuff aynway ;)
[23:34] <poseidon> OerHeks: I can't unless I have grub installed?
[23:34] <Vad3rl> hi, what can cause a delay between my keyboard and typing?
[23:34] <OerHeks> poseidon, yea. but unlikely after a fresh win10.
[23:35] <poseidon> I could do it with a usb drive though?
[23:35] <k1l> Vad3rl: load on the system
[23:35] <poseidon> I'm going to go to the store to get one, what size would I need?
[23:35] <Vad3rl> like, i open terminal, type a command, it finishes, i have to repeat tapping the keys on my keyboard until it shows up and k1l <
[23:36] <OerHeks> vacho_, there is only one place, see the ssh wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[23:36] <Vad3rl> there is no "load" on the system. it's happening right now on irc.
[23:36] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html
[23:36] <vacho_> OerHeks: I am talking about SSL certificates..I have two folders, not sure which is best. /etc/ca-certificates or /etc/ssl/
[23:36] <k1l> Vad3rl: look at "top" what load you have
[23:37] <BillyTheKid> Any ideas what could  cause a "cannot read /dev/sda" during dpkg configure????
[23:37] <OerHeks>  /etc/ssl/certs
[23:38] <vacho_> OerHeks: my cert is called DigiCertCA.crt, just making sure /etc/ca-certificates it not the best place? considering the "CA" :)
[23:38] <Vad3rl> k1l, there is no load.
[23:39] <poseidon> Vad3rl: what does "uptime" show?
[23:39] <Vad3rl> I did say... 00:39:17 up 7 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.29, 0.20, 0.11
[23:43] <k1l> Vad3rl: so you mean it takes some time after a command finnished to get a new prompt?
[23:43] <Vad3rl> yeah
[23:43] <k1l> did the command exit clean? what command was it?
[23:44] <Vad3rl> k1l, any command. if i type "sudo apt update" and it finishes, to type a new command i have to wait a few seconds
[23:44] <Vad3rl> same with irc and web browsing
[23:44] <vacho_> OerHeks: I think I got everything in place, configured my virtualhosts file etc..I just don't know how to create my own SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/to/your_private.key
[23:47] <BillyTheKid> could anyone help me reinstall grub2? I get error messages of IO errors, which I can't resolve :(
[23:50] <Vad3rl> yeah well it's really annoying! a restart didn't help.
[23:50] <k1l> Vad3rl: what machine is it?
[23:51] <Vad3rl> custom built. i have no other problems with other's os
[23:51] <k1l> that sounds to me like some load, or i/o load.
[23:52] <Vad3rl> nah
[23:52] <Vad3rl> the mouse is working lol
[23:53] <k1l> what desktop? what terminal used? some other scripts or anything non standard?
[23:53] <Vad3rl> lxde and lxterminal and no.
[23:54] <k1l> is it even lacking when just pressing enter without a command?
[23:54] <Vad3rl> yep and typing on irc too
[23:54] <k1l> cordless keyboard?
[23:55] <Vad3rl> wired
[23:55] <k1l> well that really sounds like load-lag. or a really really slow usb bus
[23:56] <Vad3rl> let me try something, brb.


[00:15] <zippo^> Super (key) is WinLogo, kl4n ?
[01:31] <erkan^> :O
[17:28] <skookum> VPN use on a laptop. Is the expected behaviour that the wifi will drop the VPN connection when the laptop enters suspend (i.e. laptop closed) and will not resume the VPN upon wake-up? That's what I'm getting on 19.10 and it means I spend time closing certain tabs and programs before closing the lid.
[19:27] <zippo^> niet ledigen maar leegmaken
[19:27] <zippo^> hoe wijzig ik een woord?