[01:19]  * flyback goes to get some caffiene, oh crap the roads are too bad, looks like he will have to rebuild his palm t5 before the party tomarrow, DECAFINATED
[01:39]  * flyback hey, if I wrap myself around a pole on the way to get a redbull, it's been fun guys :)
[02:01] <zoke> I'm not sure on who to complain to but bug 429369 and bug 467841 are really serious
[02:01] <zoke> they prevent using karmic on a lot of laptops
[02:01] <zoke> the fix is appending i915.modeset=0 to boot options
[02:02] <zoke> or moving to the .32 kernel which has it fixed
[02:02] <zoke> I have tested that the bug is not present in lucid which is good
[02:02] <zoke> but could the fix be back ported to karmic ?
[02:03] <zoke> a patch is available in bug 467841
[02:21]  * flyback http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23w2Jz0xrHE
[02:30] <ibib> hi, is there any documentation on using APT's DiffIndex feature from a repo point of view ?
[06:07] <superm1> chrisccoulson, where are we at wrg to bug 497441?  would like to make sure we have something figured out in time for a2. maybe the new patch in bug 484559 and dropping the g-c-c depends to suggests
[11:17] <damo22> how do i build an ubuntu source package with a .dsc file and orig.tar.gz and diff.gz
[11:17] <damo22> pbuilder?
[11:29] <paulliu> damo22: Are you in Ubuntu? You can just dpkg-source -x *.dsc and cd <package>-<version> and debuild.
[11:30] <damo22> thanks
[13:01] <DktrKranz> Are autosyncs for NEW packages from testing still processed, or a manual sync has to be filed?
[13:04] <sebner> DktrKranz: Import freeze is on february 11th
[13:04] <sebner> DktrKranz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule ;P
[13:06] <DktrKranz> sebner: I knew, but I don't see some packages yet, so I was curious :)
[13:06] <sebner> DktrKranz: psst, archive admins are lazy .. psssst
[13:24] <sits> A quick question - what is going to happen to nvidia-graphics-drivers-71 as it seems that NVIDIA will not be updating it to support newer versions of xorg?
[14:16] <blackxored>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:16] <blackxored> sorry
[14:16] <Tm_T> aww
[14:30] <chrisccoulson> hi superm1 - i've not started to look at bug 497441 yet. we can't use the patch in bug 484559, as users-admin was re-written completely for 2.29.x version of g-s-t, so the patch needs to be adapted for the new version
[14:30] <chrisccoulson> but i can do this for a2
[14:30] <chrisccoulson> that shouldn't be a problem for me
[14:33] <kblin> hi folks
[14:42] <kblin> assuming I wanted to build a version of current ubuntu on an unsupported architecture, how would I do that?
[14:45] <asac> kblin: what arch?
[14:47] <kblin> asac: armv5.. :)
[14:52] <kblin> I know I could just go and use debian for this, it's more a question of how many hoops you need to jump through for a karmic armv5 rebuild as opposed to switching distros
[14:56] <Tm_T> kblin: might be just matter of rebuild if lucky
[14:57] <sbalneav> Hmmm, I'm having a problem with Sabayon and gksu interaction.  I've done a huge amount of work on sabayon for Lucid.  It started fine under gksu for Karmic, and it starts fine under sudo for karmic and lucid, but fails when started under gksu on lucid. anyone else having any problems with, or is an expert on, gksu?  I've got other stuff I need to work on for edubuntu, and would rather not have to fix gksu if someone else is alr
[14:59] <kblin> Tm_T: that's what I was hoping. I've just never built ubuntu from scratch. what's the best way of doing that?
[15:03] <highvoltage> kblin: there are plenty of wiki pages explaining how to do that, both from scratch and from an existing disc
[15:18] <blackxored> sorry about the spam, I want to cross-sign gpg keys with some ubuntu developer, there's anyone here traveling to cuba by the holidays?
[15:23] <kblin> highvoltage: thanks, looking
[15:24] <blackxored> anyone???
[15:41] <blackxored> sorry about the spam, I want to cross-sign gpg keys with some ubuntu developer, there's anyone here traveling to cuba by the holidays?
[15:41] <kblin> highvoltage: there seem to be plenty of wiki pages explaining how to build my own packages, or my own kernel. can't seem to find one for the whole distro :)
[15:44] <ion> blackxored: http://biglumber.com/ btw
[15:44] <blackxored> what's supposed to be that?
[15:49] <highvoltage> kblin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization might be useful to you
[15:58] <kblin> highvoltage: actually I don't think a livecd-based approach will help. I'll have to rebuild all the compiled packages to my arch anyway.. I think a debootstrap-based builder will be the first step, which then builds for the arch.. I'll go read debootstrap docs
[16:00] <kblin> later, as my family just told me :)
[16:03] <sbalneav> ah, as someone else just pointed out:
[16:03] <sbalneav> (alkisg)
[16:03] <sbalneav> gksu gksu ls fails on lucid
[16:45] <ScottK> kblin: IIRC, Debian builds for armv5.  It might be easier to use Debian as a base and then add whatever bits you want that aren't in Debian.
[16:46] <ScottK> sbalneav: You should probably be looking at policykit integration, not gksu.  I believe the goal is to not have any default sudo rights in Ubuntu Lucid.
[16:51] <sbalneav> ScottK: As an upstream for sabayon, it runs on linuxes that don't currently support PK.  And I don't see the point in re-writing large chunks of an app to accommodate not fixing somtheing that SHOULD work.
[16:56] <sebner> bdrung_: mind backporting lintian to karmic once your 2.3 merge has been uploaded? :)
[16:58] <lamont> so how do I convince firefox to NOT &^(%)^_*(^_*( TAKE FOCUS just because it finished rendering a page?
[16:59] <lamont> with metacity as a window manager
[17:08] <asac> lamont: thtas happening if the webpage takes focus. known bug. disabling javascript should help ;)
[17:17] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140346
[17:28] <lamont> ah. ok.
[17:29] <lamont> then my only remaining pain is "why did upgrading to karmic make network manager decide that eth0 should be unmanaged"
[17:29] <lamont> though that one is gonna be a "boot the livecd and see what _that_ does" first
[17:37] <bdrung_> sebner: no. it's a good idea.
[17:38] <sebner> bdrung_: great, thanks :)
[17:39] <bdrung_> sebner: is there something special to know about backporting?
[17:40] <sebner> bdrung_: as long as it builds, I don't think so ^^ but there is a wiki page somewhere
[17:40] <bdrung_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[17:40] <sebner> right
[17:40] <sebner> ^^
[17:43] <asac> lamont: eth0 being in e/n/interfaces would do that
[17:55] <lamont> pretty sure I've done it commented out, removed, with "auto eth0" there and gone
[21:12] <sbalneav> ScottK: looks like it's going to be kind of hard to convert to polkit-1 when there's no python bindings for it.
[21:12] <sbalneav> Guess I'll have to fix gksu
[21:16] <chrisccoulson> sbalneav - we already have other python apps on the desktop using polkit-1
[21:17] <chrisccoulson> check jockey for example
[21:20] <sbalneav> chrisccoulson: looked at that.  it's talking raw dbus
[21:20] <chrisccoulson> sbalneav - jockey uses the org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority interface directly
[21:20] <sbalneav> no thanks.
[21:20] <chrisccoulson> yes