[05:29] <aboleth> gogeta1: why is that?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> midhun: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[05:30] <Jordan_U> midhun: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[05:30] <gogeta1> aboleth: whatever works for you
[05:30] <wliao> anyone can HELP me?
[05:30] <aboleth> aboleth: why only up to 2 gb?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: That guide won't work with grub2.
[05:30] <josh5> derst duch irmen?
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> wliao: you havent asked a question / stated your issue, so right now...no
[05:30] <josh5> hapes?
[05:31] <gogeta1> !dutch
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: do'h thanks (last 2 hours of my shift..)
[05:31] <CodeWar> I d like to start my application with a certain window size and position .. is this a gnome feature or something my app should support?
[05:31] <wliao> Is there an easy way to install ubuntu onto my portable hd?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> midhun: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/6444/solved-recover-grub2-after-reinstalling-windows/
[05:31] <gogeta1> wliao: oh hat joy heh
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> CodeWar: devilspie
[05:31] <gogeta1> that
[05:31] <Jordan_U> wliao: Just install it the same way you would to an internal hard drive.
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> CodeWar: on googlecode there is gdevilspie which is a python gui to it, as devilspi uses conf files only
[05:32] <dujiajiyi> 好阿
[05:32] <gogeta1> wliao: yea it installs fine but it like to put grub on your primary dive
[05:32] <acjoven> I've got a fresh server install that isn't logging to /var/mail/username. Anyone know how to activate this?
[05:32] <dujiajiyi> 有人在不
[05:32] <aboleth> Jordan_U: sudo: software-properties: command not found
[05:32] <gogeta1> wliao: soyou have to threw and chnage everything correctly
[05:33] <gogeta1> go
[05:33] <Jordan_U> gogeta1: That bug should be fixed with Ubuntu 10.10.
[05:33] <wliao> note: i have no CD..
[05:33] <gogeta1> wliao: never mind he said that bugs fixed
[05:33] <aboleth> gogeta1: so why only 2 gb for free on adrive? it says you can have up to 50
[05:33] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Sorry, software-properties-gtk
[05:33] <wliao> i just wanna install it through iso
[05:33] <aboleth> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:33] <gogeta1> aboleth: 50gb free adrive 2gb ubuntu one
[05:33] <Jordan_U> aboleth: You're welcome.
[05:34] <CodeWar> ActionParsnip, thanks for pointing this out .. exactly what I need
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> aboleth: 250Mb in dropbox
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> sorry, 2Gb
[05:34] <YiamiYo> hi...i need some help installing glc
[05:34] <YiamiYo> http://nullkey.ath.cx/projects/glc/
[05:34] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: can i not turn network interfaces on and off from rc.local?
[05:35] <aboleth> Jordan_U: it can't seem to find gddrescue
[05:35] <gogeta1> aboleth: but thers a huge list on free and paid net storage out there
[05:35] <Ronaldlo> So ActionParsnip: Nothing happens when holding down shift. Though it did advance farther on the splash screen. I am right on that it should take shorter than 10 minutes to boot, right?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> r3sno: sure you can use ifup and ifdown. You can also stop and start ALL networking if needed
[05:35] <wliao> gogeta1, i copied the iso to my portable hd, and booted from it.
[05:35] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: i am using ifconfig eth0 down, and after boot its still up
[05:35] <gogeta1> wliao: that mgith be tricky
[05:36] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Did you run "sudo update-grub"?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: thats how its done in grub2
[05:36] <gogeta1> wliao: i dont think you can install on the same media your booting from
[05:36] <aboleth> Jordan_U: no
[05:36] <aboleth> Jordan_U: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub
[05:36] <aboleth> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[05:36] <Ronaldlo> I doubt its getting to grub2, although I'm not sure what that is. It goes from yaboot, to splash
[05:36] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Sorry, did you run "sudo apt-get update"?
[05:36] <Ronaldlo> could I do this off of an alt cd?
[05:37] <wliao> gogeta1, yep, so , i'm just wondering is there an easier way.
[05:37] <YiamiYo> i'm on a 64bit ubuntu 10.10
[05:37] <YiamiYo> http://pastebin.com/x8k9ZDg9
[05:37] <gogeta1> wliao: shure out it on a diffrent boot media
[05:37] <aboleth> Jordan_U: yeah i'm pretty sure i did
[05:37] <gogeta1> put
[05:37] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Was there any error?
[05:37] <gogeta1> wliao: anything will do sd card pen drive burned cd
[05:37] <YiamiYo> anyone know about glc?or any other opengl capture software for linux?
[05:37] <aboleth> Jordan_U: i'll just show you the output
[05:38] <wliao> gogeta1, i got no other media at hand. i tried to boot from my computer hd/
[05:38] <gogeta1> wliao: that would blow upp the os if you did that heh
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: if you have the liveCD you can test there too
[05:38] <humanMeat> so a gateway of <IP_ADDRESS> means what again?
[05:38] <aboleth> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/N2zHCsSL
[05:39] <gogeta1> wliao: acully it might still be possable
[05:39] <wliao> gogeta1, my computer is on fedora.
[05:39] <Ronaldlo> I guess I'll have to find a way to get a liveCD. We are talking about community 10.10 ppc port?
[05:39] <gogeta1> wliao: acully thats a good thing you can boot the isi with grub
[05:39] <wliao> gogeta1, i know how to modify the grub boot config.
[05:39] <gogeta1> iso
[05:39] <gogeta1> wliao: oh so your botting off you internel hdd
[05:40] <gogeta1> booting
[05:40] <Jordan_U> aboleth: It's a '-' not a space in "software-properties-gtk".
[05:40] <gogeta1> wliao: yea installing to the usb drive should be easy
[05:40] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: i forgot about /etc/network/interfaces :) i got it working now
[05:40] <aboleth> Jordan_U: it seems to be working now
[05:41] <midhun> hello
[05:41] <wliao> gogeta1, the problem is on fedora i have LVM partition.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> r3sno: sweet :)
[05:41] <midhun> ????
[05:41] <r3sno> ActionParsnip: although its hardly stable as id like. :-\ needs a bit more tweaking i guess
[05:41] <gogeta1> wliao: if your installing to the ext i dont think that would interfear with lvm
[05:41] <wliao> gogeta1, i don't know where to  put the iso.
[05:42] <midhun> jordan i've snd u the details
[05:42] <CodeWar> ActionParsnip, devilspie .. does it understand regex in application name?
[05:42] <gogeta1> wliao: if you use grub to boot a iso file it shouldent even care where its at
[05:42] <gogeta1> wliao: as long as you give it the path to the iso
[05:42] <pbt> .
[05:43] <aboleth> Jordan_U: so what do i do with gddrescue?
[05:43] <wliao> gogeta1, i don't understand.
[05:43] <Ronaldlo> ActionParsnip: I realized that the load goes farther when holding down shift. Any other keys I can hold to get it to the very end ;)
[05:43] <wliao> gogeta1, grub seems unable to know LVM.
[05:43] <gogeta1> wliao: go to doller store pick up a cdrw lol
[05:43] <gogeta1> wliao: only un hard way of doing it
[05:44] <brianBTB> help. sandbox by platinum arts does not load??!?
[05:44] <Jordan_U> wliao: grub2 cna read LVM.
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> CodeWar: no idea, i use it very simply to maximize my irc window in pidgin
[05:44] <CodeWar> ActionParsnip, never mind found (contains)
[05:44] <cache_surplus> hello, is there a way to recover Trash from /media/usbdevicehere/.Trash-1000
[05:44] <cache_surplus> in cmdline
[05:44] <wliao> gogeta1, maybe it's a good idea to just burn a disk.
[05:44] <CodeWar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98071
[05:44] <Jordan_U> aboleth: First mount a partition on your working drive and confirm that there is enough free space for a complete image of your failing drive.
[05:44] <wliao> gogeta1, fedora only carries grub 0.98
[05:44] <wliao> gogeta1, thank you  anyway.
[05:44] <tristan_> im trying to install ubuntu... formatted my hd and have ubuntu on usb... everytime i try to install to hd from usb i get errors.. what do i do...
[05:45] <YiamiYo> is there any glc user here?
[05:45] <aboleth> Jordan_U: i don't think i have enough space on the one on my desk, but i'll see if my dad has any bigger hard drives
[05:45] <brianBTB> help. sandbox by platinum arts does not load. screen goes black then nothing. back to desktop
[05:45] <tristan_> do i want ext2 3 or 4
[05:45] <cache_surplus> hello, is there a way to recover Trash from /media/usbdevicehere/.Trash-1000 in cmdline? i deleted a very large amount of jpegs. sighs...
[05:45] <midhun>                 Boot Info Script 0.55    dated February 15th, 2010
[05:45] <midhun> [05:45] <midhun>  => Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in
[05:45] <midhun>     partition #256 for /boot/grub.
[05:45] <midhun>  => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
[05:45] <FloodBot2> midhun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <LoganJRuff> tristan_, ext4 is the current standard, though ext3 has a long history of stability and reliability
[05:46] <brianBTB> help. sandbox by platinum arts does not load. screen goes black then nothing. back to desktop
[05:46] <LoganJRuff> !patience | brianBTB
[05:46] <midhun> pls reply
[05:46] <gogeta1> midhun: so install it by hand and remove it from sda
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: backups are a sre fire way, failing that, foremost may help
[05:46] <cache_surplus> ?
[05:47] <tristan_> so do i need to use gparted to prepare my harddrive
[05:47] <cache_surplus> isnt that before the fact?
[05:47] <gogeta1> midhun: and of couse restore your windows mbr
[05:47] <midhun> pls am an begginer
[05:47] <midhun> hw
[05:47] <midhun> ???
[05:47] <LoganJRuff> tristan_, that or fdisk, or something similar
[05:47] <cache_surplus> hello, is there a way to recover Trash from /media/usbdevicehere/.Trash-1000 in cmdline? i deleted a very large amount of jpegs. sighs...
[05:47] <LoganJRuff> !patience | midhun
[05:47] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | midhun
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: boot to liveCD and install foremost then use it, using backups to restore the images is guarunteed data restoration, with foremost the data may be damaged
[05:47] <gogeta1> midhun: cuple commands its not that bad
[05:47] <aboleth> i'm searching for the wires to my one external hd before i ask my dad
[05:47] <LoganJRuff> cache_surplus, not that I know of.
[05:47] <cache_surplus> foremost? is that a program
[05:47] <tristan_> do i sudo apt-get install fdisk to get it..
[05:47] <aboleth> he's in bed right now and it would better not to wake him unnecessarily
[05:47] <cache_surplus> why do i need a livecd?
[05:48] <tristan_> get errors with gparted..
[05:48] <LoganJRuff> tristan_, yes
[05:48] <LoganJRuff> What errors tristan_ ?
[05:49] <cache_surplus> i mounted a usb drive on a box. its physcially pulgged in. i deleted files using smb network window, it was a large. im not understanding foremost, and doing a back up
[05:49] <cache_surplus> back up my trash?
[05:49] <cache_surplus> then restore it?
[05:50] <cache_surplus> its like 27 gigs of data
[05:50] <domenico__> i
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: no, backup data you want and regularly
[05:51] <CodeWar> naah devilspie is frankly too complicated for something simple .. what would be good to have is  "gnome-launch-app appname --geometry ".." "
[05:51] <tristan_> seems gparted is conflicting with something else.. dont really know... sounds like a partition is busy in the kernel.. but i dont know why..
[05:51] <cache_surplus> ic foremost is a backup util... thanks. oh and i back up data, dont rub it in dude
[05:51] <ninjai> !dj
[05:52] <cache_surplus> im asking for the fix without any data back'd up.  not everyone is privy to backing up data
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: no, foremost reads drives raw and can restore data
[05:53] <cache_surplus> im reading this now https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[05:53] <tristan_> why cant i get the installer to just take control of my disk and install to it... i already formatted it
[05:54] <cache_surplus> ddrescue
[05:55] <tristan_> i try to format it again and it says disk is busy.. but the light isnt on and i dont have anything on it
[05:56] <cache_surplus> is there a way to go into the trash file on a mounted usb harddrive? and if so, i need to manually pull trash data, as i have NOT emptied trash. where is the data stored when i removed/deleted the file using smb network nautilus window?
[05:56] <tristan_> also i formatted it blank and disk utility shows a 23 GB ubuntu partion and gparted shows weird partitions
[05:56] <aboleth> Jordan_U: ok i plugged it in
[05:56] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: is foremost a gui tool?
[05:57] <aboleth> Jordan_U: though i don't seem to have quite enough space on this one
[05:57] <cache_surplus> i'd like the cmdline prog as well
[05:57] <aboleth> Jordan_U: i might need to use my dad's one
[05:57] <cache_surplus> ddrescue?
[05:57] <tristan_> i tried sudo apt-get install fdisk but its not correct
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: no, its a terminal app but its pretty awesome at getting data back
[05:57] <cache_surplus> why do i need to boot to livecd?
[05:58] <Guest17503> hello people
[05:58] <cache_surplus> i see no where in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery stating recovery from a trash file
[05:58] <cache_surplus> trash dir
[05:59] <Guest17503> hello people, any idea how i get composite on my desktop
[05:59] <aboleth> Jordan_U: for the image does it only count space used or the entire capacity of the drive?
[06:00] <Jordan_U> aboleth: The entire capacity.
[06:00] <cache_surplus> can i just mount a dir on another physcial drive, then run foremost?
[06:00] <cache_surplus> without using a livecd?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: it wont specifically say about trash, it just reads the partition or disk and extracts whatever it finds, you will need a partition mounted as writable to spit the data out to
[06:00] <Guest17503> am i getting out here ?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: no, the partition must be unmounted
[06:01] <cache_surplus> so cant i jump to single user mode - and umount the drive in -ro mode?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest17503: run: lspci | grep -i vga  websearch for the output for guides
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: foremost expects it unmounted afair
[06:01] <Guest17503> can anyone hear me ? sorry im new to this
[06:02] <cache_surplus> understood now... also, i only want to recover specific files, jpeg jpg files
[06:02] <cache_surplus> will foremost work with specified file types?
[06:02] <cache_surplus> or a specific dir that i deleted?
[06:02] <Guest17503> any type of acknoledgement would be a help
[06:03] <arrrghhh> Guest17503, what do you need?
[06:03] <Guest17503> that will do, just testing this irssi client thanks !
[06:03] <ysk> i how to check that what are the repos which should be in system and what should be removed?
[06:04] <aboleth> Jordan_U: ok i have the external hd set up and it has enough space now
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest17503: np
[06:04] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, what did you do :P
[06:05] <Guest17503> so can anyone help with how to get cooliris in firefox working with gforce420mx graphics
[06:05] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Ok, is the partition you're going to store the image on mounted?
[06:05] <aboleth> Jordan_U: yes
[06:05] <cache_surplus> thanks ActionParsnip, now is there another way anyone? to recover jpeg files from a usb external drive that is mounted?
[06:05] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: no idea but it worked :)
[06:05] <aboleth> Jordan_U: unmount it and remount?
[06:06] <arrrghhh> lol i just responded to his question and i guess that was enough hahaha
[06:06] <Guest17503> use >>>> testdisk from the terminal, make sure the dis is unmounted that ur gonna work on
[06:06] <racip_> gh
[06:07] <cache_surplus> thanks ActionParsnip, now is there another way anyone? to recover jpeg files from a usb external drive that is mounted? manually....  actually the amount of data was 27 gigs from a smb network share when deleted...  how does ubuntu/linux remove large amount of data... i still see a few pictures in there, that i simply mv
[06:07] <Jordan_U> aboleth: No, just run "mount" (or just confirm that nothing on sda is mounted and tell me what the mountpoint is for the partition you're recovering to).
[06:07] <racip_> привет
[06:07] <maco> !ru | racip_
[06:07] <aurilliance> monokrome, can't help you then sorry ;)
[06:07] <aurilliance> gah
[06:07] <aurilliance> My netbook with ubuntu 10.10 suspends every time I pull the AC cord out. Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:08] <aboleth> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/YD5jN1Ff
[06:08] <Guest17503> how about typing gksudo palimpsest in the terminal
[06:08] <Guest17503> that will suffice for all ur mounting needs
[06:09] <Guest17503> or unmounting,formatrting, resizeing
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: what make / model netbook? You could add this to your repeated ask too
[06:10] <aurilliance> Gigabyte t1028x netbook.
[06:10] <aurilliance> I think the problem is that it's interpreting the "pull plug out" event as a scree close event, and the screen close is set to suspend.
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: have you used these boot options: elevator=noop i8042.noloop=1
[06:11] <tecnico> aurilliance: was it you asking about coloring the Segfault output?
[06:11] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip, I'm booting with them atm - without them the trackpad doesn't work ;)
[06:11] <cache_surplus> Is there another way anyone? to recover jpeg files from a usb external drive that is mounted? manually....  actually the amount of data was 27 gigs from a smb network share when deleted...  how does ubuntu/linux remove large amount of data... i still see a few pictures in there, that i simply mv'd, and worked. but im worried about the large amount of data deleting differently... as referenced by other times i have seen the m
[06:11] <aurilliance> tecnico, yeah that was me -good memory
[06:11] <tecnico> aurilliance: http://colorifer.sourceforge.net/
[06:12] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Ok. To use ddrescue to create a rescue image named "sda_rescue.img" run "sudo ddrescue /dev/sda /media/JPs\ 500gb\ SATA\ II\ \ Hard\ Drive/sda_rescue.img    /media/JPs\ 500gb\ SATA\ II\ \ Hard\ Drive/sda_rescue.log"
[06:12] <aurilliance> :)
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: http://samiux.blogspot.com/2010/07/howto-ubuntu-1004-on-gigabyte-touchnote.html
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: are you using: usbhid.quirks=0xeef:0x1:0x40   as a boot option?
[06:12] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip, yeah I know - I've written an updated blog post based on that one as well
[06:12] <aurilliance> Hmm havn't tried that one...
[06:13] <cache_surplus> Jordan_U: will ddrescue work for me as well?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: found it! : http://xac-i.net/blog/?p=19
[06:13] <pionar> hi everyone
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: run: gconf-editor    find: /apps/gnome-power-manager/actions
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: deselect: event_when_closed_battery
[06:14] <aboleth> Jordan_U: ok i'm running it now
[06:14] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip, nice!
[06:14] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[06:14] <Jordan_U> cache_surplus: No, it is for a different purpose.
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: simple websearches dude
[06:15] <gogeta1> ActionParsnip: shhhh
[06:15] <Quantum_Ion> Is there anyway to get rsync to back up root /
[06:15] <Padhu> I couldn't save when using photoscape through wine on Ubuntu 10.04?
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: ddrescue is like dd but it doesnt quit when it gets in trouble, you can make an image of a failing drive, then fsck it to see if you can recover data. the drive is data, you just need foremost to recover the data
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> aurilliance: i suggest you make a note of that someplace so you can set it if you need to reinstall
[06:17] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ic, yah its not a failing drive though... looks like your cutting and pasting lol
[06:17] <cache_surplus> thanks though
[06:17] <yyang_> ?
[06:17] <aurilliance> ActionParsnip, I'm gonna add it to my blog post ;)
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: i just type fast
[06:18] <shawnboy> Anyone know how to change name of root Linux Grub menu item?
[06:18] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: well its rare for ext3/4 to ourright fail unless its at the hardware level my frend
[06:18] <cache_surplus> can i create an image, then run foremost on it?
[06:18] <limecat> shawn: grub 1 or 2
[06:18] <shawnboy> 2
[06:18] <Ronaldlo> ActionParsnip: Do you do this as a job? Or are you just really really cool anyhow? ;)
[06:18] <cache_surplus> i never said its a failed drive lol... i said i deleted data on accident
[06:18] <limecat> i only know grub1, sorry
[06:18] <cache_surplus> a lot of data
[06:18] <cache_surplus> 27 gigs
[06:18] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: oh its gone forever then
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: if you like, you will need enough storage to hold a full image of the disk or partition you are using, then the same again to output  to
[06:18] <shawnboy> limecat: thanks anyway.
[06:19] <cache_surplus> gogeta1: if you explain why its gone for ever, i might believe you
[06:19] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: linux zeros on delete
[06:19] <yyang_> 大家好
[06:19] <maco> gogeta1: not exactly
[06:19] <limecat> gogeta1: are you sure?  I thought it was simply an issue of how it deletes
[06:19] <cache_surplus> i disagree... i have files in there that were recovered already manually
[06:19] <gogeta1> limecat: yea zeroing
[06:19] <limecat> pretty sure that would be a phenomenal performance hit to zero everything on delete, im pretty sure it IS in rare circumstances to recover
[06:20] <maco> gogeta1, limecat, cache_surplus:  on ext3&4, the *pointer* to the data is zeroed. the data is intact. on ext2 the pointer wasnt even cleared
[06:20] <shawnboy> gogeta1: I didn't know Linux did that. That's why there are utils like secure delete.
[06:20] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: yea sometime you can get off the jurnel but mostly its destoryed
[06:20] <maco> *unless* you set the "secure" delete flag on your filesystem (this is NOT the default)
[06:20] <acjoven> How does one configure cron jobs to log output to /var/mail/username?
[06:20] <Four2zero> hello everyone, im trying to get a ftp server up and running for user access, lan works fine but external users cant connect and im running Proftpd
[06:20] <Ronaldlo> Ports?
[06:20] <cache_surplus> gogeta1: i believe that may be true, unless the .Trash-1000 file only holds pointer files not real data
[06:20] <Four2zero> ports forwarded properly
[06:20] <gogeta1> shawnboy: well furensics can recover enough of a zero the secure delete add multi overwrights
[06:20] <Ronaldlo> er, ports, are they forwarded?
[06:20] <Ronaldlo> ahkay ;)
[06:20] <maco> gogeta1: you're wrong
[06:21] <maco> gogeta1: you're mixing up the list of pointers to data and the actual data
[06:21] <limecat> maco: so iirc it IS possible with specialized tools (ie testdisk) to recover files by scanning deleted sectors
[06:21] <maco> limecat: yes
[06:21] <limecat> thats what i thought
[06:21] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: well trash doesent zro untill you empty why they added it
[06:21] <cache_surplus> is the files in .Trash-1000 only pointer files?
[06:21] <Ronaldlo> Four2zero: I hang around an opensource game. People try to set up servers, and dont realize that they need to set up ports. First thing that came to mind.
[06:21] <maco> cache_surplus: no those are copies of the files
[06:21] <Four2zero> is there some settings that needs to be tweaked in proftpd.conf
[06:21] <cache_surplus> i have never emptied the trash since deletion of those files
[06:21] <limecat> cache_surplus, if you want to recover, ive heard testdisk is a pretty good tool if you know what kind of data
[06:21] <cache_surplus> jpeg pics
[06:21] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: lucky you they should still be there
[06:21] <Four2zero> Ronaldlo i understand.
[06:22] <Ronaldlo> :)
[06:22] <limecat> photorec is good for that
[06:22] <shawnboy> multiple choice: 1) How Do I Change Grub 2 Root Linux Menu Item? or 2) how do I move /home to separate partition and why would I want to?
[06:22] <Four2zero> i use port 2121 tcp/udp
[06:22] <cache_surplus> i deleted them using a smb share window in nautilus from this client
[06:22] <maco> cache_surplus: magicrescue may also work
[06:22] <limecat> cache_surplus, what was the other end?  what Filesystem, OS, etc?
[06:23] <cache_surplus> linux to linux
[06:23] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: they still should be the the trash folder then
[06:23] <xiong> Um, I have a strange problem. I right-clicked a link in Chrome; instead of opening right away, there was some disk cache activity; I let up on the mouse button. Now, there is a small patch of screen which floats on top of all other windows, a box full of the Google search results page. Closing the Chrome window does not remove it. It travels from workspace to workspace and cannot be killed with the Force Quit tool or even moved with th
[06:23] <xiong> e grabber hand.
[06:23] <cache_surplus> ok, the file that holds the data or pointers is .Trash-1000 correct?
[06:23] <cache_surplus> its a usb drive external, and i see that dir in there
[06:23] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: should be as easy as opning it file
[06:24] <cache_surplus> du -sh .Trash-1000 shows 555megs
[06:24] <limecat> browse it'
[06:24] <cache_surplus> not 27gigs
[06:24] <maco> cache_surplus: .Trash things are just folders that stuff gets moved to if you use the gui to "move to trash" rather than the command line to "rm"
[06:24] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: outch it migh have done a rm on the samba
[06:24] <cache_surplus> maco:  agreed
[06:24] <cache_surplus> thats what i asked earlier about smb
[06:25] <cache_surplus> i wonder if it deleted the data differently than it would with nautilist
[06:25] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: well i do knoe how linuc deletes recover isnt easy
[06:25] <MrAnthrope> No change.
[06:25] <aboleth> Jordan_U: it's running still and some weird stuff happened
[06:25] <MrAnthrope> :)
[06:25] <limecat> cache_surplus, if this is an unknown, and youre unsure if it was actually deleted...
[06:25] <sean> zzzz
[06:25] <limecat> i would treat it as if it were and attempt recovery with any of the mentioned tools ASAP as the longer you wait the worse
[06:25] <shawnboy> multiple choice: 1) How Do I Change Grub 2 Root Linux Menu Item? or 2) how do I move /home to separate partition and why would I want to?
[06:25] <aboleth> it says i have no more space and i can't switch between windows and the window bars no longer show up, among other things
[06:26] <ilab> aboleth: are you trying to recover a deleted file?
[06:26] <limecat> shawnboy, /home can be put on a seperate partition for a few reasons
[06:26] <cache_surplus> im unsure as to how smb deletes
[06:26] <cache_surplus> if it rm's or mv's to trash
[06:26] <aboleth> ilab: i'm recovering a corrupt disk
[06:26] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: well if its deleted on a ntfs drive it acully gets move to a trash folder on c:
[06:26] <limecat> shawnboy, one reason is if you want it on a separate drive for space issues...another is if you want to use different filesystems (a risky but fast one for /, a reliable one for data)
[06:26] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Ok. My guess is that you used the wrong path when you ran ddrescue and so it hasn't been writing to the external drive.
[06:26] <rypervenche> I have a custom IME for typing in a dialect of Chinese, it is made for scim and it has a bin file for the tables and a png for the icon. Can I install it on ibus instead since that's what I use?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Instead it's been writing the image to the live filesystem, which stores changes in RAM.
[06:27] <limecat> shawnboy, a third is for doing OS reinstalls-- many Linuxes will want to wipe /, but if your home is on a seperate partition you can keep your data easily
[06:27] <cache_surplus> there is no C: drive here, this is ext4 on both boxes
[06:27] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: a sepret one being ntfs tools cant relly delete from ntfs
[06:27] <aboleth> Jordan_U: i checked the directory in nautilus before it screwed up and i saw both files right where i expected
[06:27] <shawnboy> limecat: do you know if it's possible to do after installation the other way? (I like reason #3)
[06:27] <xiong> Changing screen resolution wiped the ghost box to a gray rectangle with a nice shaded drop shadow. But the box is persistent.
[06:28] <gogeta1> cache_surplus: yea 4 times harder heh even cops hate nix fs
[06:28] <limecat> gogeta1, AFAIK when you delete from an NTFS share it is gone gone  (that is marked deleted on FS)
[06:28] <cache_surplus> its mounted as a usb drive that linux recognized, and i have it in fstab to mount after reboots
[06:28] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Odd. Stop ddrescue now and run "sync".
[06:28] <aboleth> ok i stopped it now
[06:28] <gogeta1> limecat: nope they go in a trahs folder on c:
[06:28] <gogeta1> trash
[06:28] <limecat> you can restore from shadow copies but its NOT in recycle bin-- imagine what a file server's recycle bin would look like....
[06:28] <gogeta1> limecat: you have to delete that folder to
[06:28] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Because it uses a log file you'll be able to continue where you left off (but only if you pass the log file to ddrescue properly next time you run it).
[06:29] <limecat> gogeta1,  can you clarify where and what that folder would be called?  I have never seen nor heard of this....
[06:29] <kaushal> hi
[06:29] <limecat> not with NTFS on windows server
[06:29] <kaushal> I am planning to buy a wireless mouse. Please suggest me the make of the mouse which is supported by Ubuntu Linux 10.04
[06:29] <gogeta1> limecat: sometimes its acully hidden but it will be like trash and some numbers
[06:29] <cache_surplus> just to confirm, what is the dir name for trash on a usb mounted drive
[06:29] <cache_surplus> i have 4 here
[06:29] <limecat> kaushal, just about any usb mouse should work
[06:29] <cache_surplus> well 3
[06:30] <cache_surplus> RECYCLER which looks windows like, prolly from a previous use, and .Trash-1000
[06:30] <kaushal> limecat: any wiki page which says about supported mice ?
[06:30] <gogeta1> limecat: being it cant nativly move to the recycle bin it does that
[06:30] <aboleth> Jordan_U: i'm having trouble running commands like this
[06:30] <shawnboy> limecat: thanks for your feedback. I'll google for more.
[06:30] <gogeta1> limecat: at least if you use thr gui
[06:30] <maco> kaushal: ive never heard of an unsupported mouse...
[06:30] <gogeta1> the
[06:30] <aboleth> i can't put the focus correctly back on the terminal
[06:30] <cache_surplus> in trash i have files/ and info/
[06:30] <kaushal> maco: ok
[06:30] <limecat> gogeta1, thats NOT on windows systems.  .trash files are only created by linux.  youll have to take my word on this, i can test it now.  I always have hiden and super hidden showing on windows
[06:31] <kaushal> maco: any wiki page ?
[06:31] <maco> kaushal: unless maybe it has like.. more than 7 buttons and you want to be able to program them to do lots of stuff
[06:31] <shawnboy> Speaking of mice, anyone know if there is widespread support of bluetooth mice or should I look for certain ones?
[06:31] <gogeta1> limecat: in a nix to windows smb share im talking abought
[06:31] <limecat> ah ok
[06:31] <maco> kaushal: if you find a mouse that doesnt work, i will be shocked
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: bluetooth is bluetooth, i suggest against logitech as they refuse to support linux so dont give them your money
[06:31] <aboleth> Jordan_U: should i try ctrl+alt+1?
[06:32] <rigved> !mouse | kaushal
[06:32] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: glad not to give them my money. :)
[06:32] <limecat> kaushal, input devices tend to be the sort that basically always work-- possibly better than windows
[06:32] <rigved> kaushal: in case it has extra buttons
[06:32] <maco> i used to use a microsoft wireless mouse on ubuntu :P
[06:32] <BillyMays> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04.1 + gnome.. I'm using firefox 3.12.6 .. are there any known issues of keeping firefox open with multiple tabs, that would cause memory to slowly increase of the course of time .. keeping firefox open with 2 tabs for say, 2days ends up using about 1.2-1.4gb of ram.
[06:32] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Yes.
[06:32] <limecat> you have native 9+ button support for mice in linux, where windows would need a driver
[06:32] <Jordan_U> aboleth: Did you successfully stop ddrescue?
[06:32] <kaushal> maco: i was actually going for the recommendation
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> BillyMays: its one reason i hate and do not use it
[06:33] <limecat> kaushal, you want a good mouse?  any of logitechs ;)   what do you want to use it for?
[06:33] <shawnboy> goodnight all
[06:33] <BillyMays> ActionParsnip what do you use?
[06:33] <Jordan_U> aboleth: If everything seems to be frozen then do *not* pull the plug. Use sysrq magic instead.
[06:33] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | aboleth
[06:33] <maco> i do like logitech mice...they have the right feel
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> BillyMays: chromium daily build and arora
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> BillyMays: could try the mozilla ppa for a later version
[06:33] <limecat> ubottu, didnt they disable sysrq in 10.04?
[06:33] <limecat> think you have to manually enable it
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> BillyMays: could also try firefox 4 if you are feeling brave
[06:34] <Jordan_U> limecat: No, they disabled ctrl+alt+backspace.
[06:34] <limecat> doh
[06:34] <kaushal> limecat: good mouse
[06:35] <limecat> kaushal, a "good mouse" to me is the G9, which is a gamers mouse.  If you want a good cheap one i can guarentee will work in ubuntu, browse newegg-- every mouse there will work.  one sec and ill find the one i like
[06:35] <BillyMays> ActionParsnip lol, alright. I think i'll leave v4 alone
[06:36] <kaushal> limecat: waiting for your input
[06:36] <limecat> one sec
[06:36] <red2kic> A mouse without scroll wheel should works fine too.
[06:37] <limecat> kaushal, i cant google it ATM (only irc access), but model number is m-bck135
[06:37] <limecat> its a logitech
[06:37] <red2kic> kaushal: My mouse -- http://tinyurl.com/37urfc
[06:38] <limecat> the one i posted cost me about $10, and its a fantastic laser mouse
[06:38] <wrektjet> not every mouse. i have a razor and only some buttons work
[06:38] <limecat> wrektjet, check out "btnx"
[06:39] <limecat> itll get them all working
[06:39] <wrektjet> ?
[06:39] <wrektjet> def will
[06:39] <limecat> its a program
[06:39] <limecat> it lets you bind the keys
[06:39] <limecat> it found all 13 on my g9
[06:39] <limecat> er 11
[06:40] <Spaztic_One_> Trying to get a share that is accessible to a windows box... following what the help system says, but I've kinda hit a wall. It says to select "Windows networks (SMB)" as the share type, but only "Unix Networks (NFS)" is in the drop down list. also worth noting is that the linux computer can access the windows box no problem
[06:40] <wrektjet> limecat your g11 keyboard?
[06:40] <limecat> wrektjet, no all 11 keys on my g9 mouse.  I also got the g15 kb working, i forget what prog i used
[06:41] <limecat> somethin like "g15progs" or "g15utils"
[06:42] <limecat> Spaztic_One, i might be wrong but i think you have to install something first
[06:42] <wrektjet> hmm ill try tom i made a note. ive never actually gotten my g11 fully functioning
[06:42] <wrektjet> some keys yes
[06:42] <Shvonder> People, what is better opened in Open office doc or docx?
[06:43] <limecat> this was like 2 years ago, so i dont remember well.  For the side keys, i used "xev" (built in command) to find the keymap codes.  I forget where i input them
[06:43] <limecat> xev will show you what the computer "hears" when you press a key
[06:43] <Spaztic_One_> limecat, as far as I am aware, both the standard shares-admin and nautilus are installed. now whether the problem is that they both are, I don't know ,but I wouldn't think it is.
[06:43] <dabaR> If I have my ssl web server enabled to do _default_:443 in the -ssl vhost...
[06:43] <dabaR> It looks like it uses that even when I go to http://localhost
[06:44] <dabaR> How can I prevent that?
[06:44] <taran> how to install opera browser in UBUNTU
[06:44] <dabaR> !opera
[06:44] <wrektjet> limecat yes i spent loooong time on that and i ended up using kb shirtcuts in the end. one day i will get back to it. meanwhile i pretty much use the other extra keys and buttons for games in windows
[06:44] <red2kic> taran: http://www.opera.com/
[06:45] <limecat> wrektjet, i wish i could remember all i did, i spent like 3 months getting everything (even vent!) working, but it IS doable
[06:45] <limecat> btnx i remember being awesome tho
[06:45] <wrektjet> limecat i hear that. the xev is a good tip though. thats how i managed to the shortcuts
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> taran: omgubuntu has links to the new release
[06:47] <taran> ActionParsnip: How do I get it on my system?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> taran: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/opera-11-nears-beta-gains-chorus-of-new-features-improvements/
[06:49] <taran> ActionParsnip: thanks.Im trying
[06:49] <ninjai> Someone pleaseeeeeee help me.  In ubuntu, how can I verify the PGP signature of a string of text?
[06:53] <Spaztic_One> I am also getting this error in windows: <network name and folder> is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the admin--blah blah blah /n Multiple connections to a server or shared resource by the same user, using more than one user name, are not allowed. Disconnect all previous connections to the server or shared resource and try again.
[06:53] <Spaztic_One> Why is it saying that I am conncected twice, or trying to connect twice
[06:55] <rypervenche> Is it possible to install into ibus an IME that is normally made for scim, which consists of only a bin file and a png ?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: what OS is the server, what OS is the client?
[06:56] <Spaztic_One> in this case, I am trying to access my mav meercat laptop with win xp SP3
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: ok is samba installed and running? how did you share the folder?
[06:58] <Spaztic_One_> ActionParsnip: as far as I know, yes. and I have attempted to share using the context menu (right click) and setting it to share, as well as opening a terminal and running shares-admin
[06:59] <Spaztic_One_> (also as a small note, Spaztic_One and Spaztic_One_ are both me, former being the one on the windows box, and with the underscore on the laptop)
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: ok so if you run: smbtree   on ubuntu, do you see the shares on the server
[07:00] <Spaztic_One_> ActionParsnip: I do, unless my laptop is supposed to be listed as well. (which I don't think being that it isn't SMB?)
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: if it has shares on it then it will
[07:04] <Spaztic_One_> ActionParsnip: Also, I today got my laptop to access the windows machine. I had it working before, but it suddenly stopped. I figured out the problem for that, firestarter (firewall program) was blocking the incoming traffic from the other compter on my LAN
[07:04] <Spaztic_One_> ah, well, my laptop is not being listed
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: if you run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER   you can then authenticate as your user, using the password you set.
[07:05] <Spaztic_One_> I do, and thats when I get the error on windows
[07:05] <Spaztic_One_> saying that I cannot be logged in twice or some such rubbish
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: do you get prompted for authentication?
[07:06] <Spaztic_One_> ActionParsnip: I do
[07:07] <vladius> hello, guys
[07:07] <vladius> just wanted to ask a small question. is there a way to sell software on USC?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: that's good, ok then use your username in Ubuntu, i suggest you set your samba pass to the same as your ubuntu pass
[07:08] <vladius> I have a small logic game available for both 32bit and 64bit ubuntu and would like to sell it
[07:08] <vladius> There is a game called Brukkon currently in USC
[07:08] <vladius> A paid application
[07:08] <Spaztic_One_> ActionParsnip: still doesn't seem to work, even when the password is the same
[07:09] <Spaztic_One_> do I need to type username, or username@comptername
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: does the samba account have read access to the share?
[07:09] <vladius> USC - Ubuntu Software Center
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: i dont use the right click nautilus thing, i use smb.conf personally so am not sure how the gui apps etc administer stuff
[07:10] <Spaztic_One_> ActionParsnip: I am uncertain as to how to check that
[07:10] <Spaztic_One_> also, I have no problem editing files with no gui
[07:10] <Spaztic_One_> unless they are lengthly and convoluted
[07:10] <rypervenche> Can I use an IME meant for scim (it's only a .bin and .png) and use it on ibus?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: i can give my my smb.conf if you like
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: http://pastebin.com/SbfWjhve
[07:12] <Spaztic_One_> if you think that would help?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: i have 3 shares, Leanne can only access downloads and her own stuff wheras I can access all :D
[07:12] <Spaztic_One_> ActionParsnip: oh, that one. I edited the workgroup manually earlier today
[07:13] <Spaztic_One_> ... if only I could remember where that was xD
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One_: if you edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and add the shares at the bottomi (rest of the file is vanilla) then restart samba, the shares should be ok and security defined as to who can access what. I suggest you backup your smb.conf as a rollback path
[07:16] <Spaztic_One_> name in the bracket is the name that will appear on the network?
[07:18] <ninjai> hey everyone, why would kgpg report a bad signature on something I know is a good signature? I copy/paste text into the area and try to verify it and it claims its bad
[07:18] <vladius> Hello, guys. I would like to sell software (game) on Ubuntu Software Center. Is there a way I can do this?
[07:19] <maco> vladius: at the moment, i think you need to be a canonical partner
[07:19] <vladius> maco: how can I register as a canonical partner?
[07:19] <maco> vladius: check canonical.com
[07:20] <Gemclip> Just built a new rig and trying to run 10.04 or 10.10 in vmware but having issues with the sound. Says device ID outside of range in 10.10 and device cant start in 10.04
[07:20] <vladius> maco: thank you, I'll try
[07:20] <Karen_m> is there a way to downgrade coreutils in maverick?
[07:21] <Gemclip> board is an Asus P6X58D Premium
[07:21] <Gemclip> any useful suggestions?
[07:23] <Raikia> Gemclip: looks like more people have your problem
[07:23] <testi> Can I split a monitor into 2 sections to allow two sessions at the same time?
[07:23] <Raikia> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1434767
[07:25] <Gemclip> yeah been googleing last 2 days
[07:25] <pc_> lal
[07:26] <pc_> aha ,so many people  here
[07:26] <Gemclip> guess ill give another distro a try
[07:26] <vladius> maco, https://forms.canonical.com/marketplace/ here is the form to join the marketplace. thank you once again
[07:27] <Eragon> hrm, this is a major noob question, but how do I make a program stop? its nto frozen or anything, I just screened it and hid it earlier D:
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Eragon: press ALT+F2 and run: xkill ,then click the app
[07:29] <Eragon> but I cant see it :o
[07:29] <testi> you screened it? with screen -r?
[07:29] <Eragon> "screen torrent" then ctrl+a, ctrl+d
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Eragon: if it doesn't die you can run: ps -ef | grep name ,then run: kill -9 PID ,replace PID with the. Leftmost number
[07:29] <vladius> maco: or maybe its not...)
[07:30] <Ronaldlo> I had to list my screens and just kill them :P
[07:30] <testi> well then just use "screen -r" to unhide the app and then use Ctrl+C
[07:33] <Eragon> thanks guys :)
[07:35] <Ronaldlo> does the ubuntu cd really take ~10 months?
[07:35] <Ronaldlo> and can they ship community ports?
[07:35] <Ronaldlo> like the ppc port?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: depends on demand I guess
[07:36] <Ronaldlo> so you haven't heard of any recent reports of the shipping time?
[07:37] <herro> hello
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: you could as a pal with a whizzy connection to make you a cd or usb. If you don't want/can't download the cd yourself
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Hi herro
[07:37] <herro> Can i make a channel here?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> herro: awesome nick. Makes me smile
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> herro: sure,just join it
[07:37] <Ronaldlo> well, I dont have any cds above 700mb ;)
[07:38] <Ronaldlo> macs dont like usb
[07:38] <Ronaldlo> so I'm stuck :(
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: CDs are 700mb
[07:38] <shane_> aren't most linux iso's like 690mb
[07:38] <Ronaldlo> I know
[07:38] <Ronaldlo> not my port
[07:38] <Ronaldlo> its 709.6 mb
[07:38] <Ronaldlo> :(
[07:39] <shane_> rofl
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> shane_: it varys. Tinycore and. Xpud are nearer to 10mb
[07:39] <shane_> yah i know
[07:39] <shane_> most are close to 700 though
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: so a mac can't boot usb?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> shane_: true
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: if you can boot floppy there is a floppy image you can boot to, to kick of the usb installer
[07:40] <erikyyy> hello. i am using ubuntu 10.04 host with kvm and ubuntu 10.04 running as client . i added usb passthrough for a usb stick. i have not mounted the usb stick on the host. the client shows the usb stick on lsmod. but it creates no device to mount. why not?
[07:41] <Ronaldlo> I can boot floppy :)
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> erikyyy: if you run: sudo fdisk -l ,do you see the partition?
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: head over to the pendrivelinux site. The image is there
[07:42] <erikyyy> ActionParsnip: no, i only see /dev/vda1,2,5 which is my virtual harddrive
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> erikyyy: then your kvm isn't right. The OS can't mount a partition it cannot see
[07:42] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Does pendrive linux have a PPC download?
[07:42] <n2diy>  I just installed xubuntu 10.04 on my test box, and eth0 wasn't assigned an IP address?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: not sure there dude. Afaik, its just grub on a floppy
[07:43] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Ronaldlo is trying to boot a PPC machine :)
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,you can see the ethernet controller chip and websearch for guides
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: isn't grub ==  grub ?
[07:44] <erikyyy> ActionParsnip: well. but on lsusb it shows up:
[07:45] <n2diy> ActionParsnip: ifconfig shows eth0, even its ipv6 address, but no ipv address?
[07:45] <erikyyy> ActionParsnip: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0c76:0005 JMTek, LLC. Transcent Flash disk
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> erikyyy: ok then unplug the device, wait a few seconds then reattatch and wait a few seconds. Then run: dmesg | tail. -n 20 ,should give clues
[07:46] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: No, PPC is a completely different CPU architecture and firmware. You can build grub2 for PPC/OpenFirmware but X86/BIOS versions of grub can't boot a PPC/OpenFirmware machine.
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: try: sudo dhclient3 eth0
[07:46] <erikyyy> ActionParsnip: if i unplug it, it won'T show up in lsusb again. only when plugged in from system start
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: ahh, I thought itdbe noarch
[07:47] <Ronaldlo> so pendrivelinux is no go?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> erikyyy: then no idea.  Its not something I use, maybe others can chip in
[07:47] <erikyyy> is there some virtualization channel here in irc?
[07:47] <erikyyy> i.e. kvm, libvirt etc.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: if they have a ppc one, yes :) otherwise no :(
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: make sure the ethernet link light is on and the data light is flashing
[07:48] <azbr00> Ronaldlo: What sort of PPC is it?
[07:48] <Ronaldlo> iMac G4
[07:48] <Ronaldlo> aka not working :P
[07:48] <Ronaldlo> I am going to get a memory test, and try to see if its the memory
[07:49] <Ronaldlo> I'll first start with mac memory test
[07:49] <erikyyy> how can i completely ignore a usb device? i even killed the complete udev system and still when i plug in my usb device, the scsi driver will detect it. how can i stop that?
[07:49] <Ronaldlo> then if that succeeds, then try another one.
[07:49] <n2diy> ActionParsnip: that worked, it now has an ip address, what happened?
[07:49] <azbr00> Ronaldlo: Ahh... I got Xubuntu working on an iMac G5 fwiw
[07:49] <solidrock> aw
[07:49] <Ronaldlo> Hm, should I try Xubuntu?
[07:50] <blahsphemer> I am grad student with decent Kernel Hacking experience, as in, implementing my own scheduler algo, page replacement algo in FreeBSD. I'd like to know if there are internship opportunities in ubuntu
[07:50] <azbr00> Ronaldlo: Well, I don't think that it would be harder than any other, but I was recommended "Yellowdog" linux, which I haven't het got... yet...
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: maybe the network interface came up too slow. If it happens again add this in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line: sleep 20; dhclient3 eth0
[07:50] <solidrock> ps3 for yellowdog
[07:50] <solidrock> yeah
[07:51] <n2diy> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks.
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: add an ampersand on the endof the line too
[07:51] <azbr00> s/het/yet/
[07:51] <hqu> whot
[07:51] <Ronaldlo> What makes you suggest yellowdog?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: it'll count and after an ok amount of time it will automagically run the command for you :)
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: its a decent distro
[07:52] <azbr00> Ronaldlo: Friends first, and after that they are a build officially for PPCs
[07:53] <azbr00> Xubuntu doesn't support everything on the G5... like frequency scaling, webcam, and bluetooth... though I got the wireless working
[07:53] <Ronaldlo> Hm, I'm mainly looking at building programs for remote server use. I'm leaning towards ssh making :P
[07:54] <Ronaldlo> I head of that not working for some
[07:54] <Aeronius> Hey, so I'm using 9.10, and I inserted a 10.04 disk in my machine, and ever since then, it's been trying to update from the disk. So how do I make it forget the disk and go back to updating online?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Could install minimal, that'll fit on a CD
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Then install the ubuntu-desktop (assuming you like gnome)
[07:54] <ubuXubu> use synaptic
[07:54] <Ronaldlo> Eject the disk?
[07:55] <Aeronius> disk has been gone a long time
[07:55] <azbr00> Ronaldlo: The most annoying thing about Xubuntu on my mac is the cooling fans are going full-nois the whole time... can't think with that noise going on.,..
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Aeronius: run software-centre. And remove the cd as a repo in there
[07:55] <ubuXubu> Aeronius, update thru synaptic pkg mgr
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: could use the minimal ppc iso, then install lubuntu-desktop for super lightness :)
[07:56] <Aeronius> ActionParsnip: thanks
[07:57] <Aeronius> ubuXubu: you mean sudo apt-get update?
[07:57] <ubuXubu> no
[07:57] <Ronaldlo> minimal ppc iso?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !minimal | Ronaldlo
[07:57] <Ronaldlo> !Alternate CD
[07:57] <ubuXubu> Aeronius, i think ActionParsnip answer is best but use synaptic to update machine
[07:58] <Ronaldlo> !LiveCD
[07:58] <Aeronius> thanks for deferring, but you meant go to system>administration>synaptic?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: there's 32bit ppc minimal. And 64bit ppc minimal. Result!
[07:59] <Ronaldlo> Link? :D
[07:59] <ubuXubu> aer
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: use the one ubottu gave
[07:59] <ubuXubu> Aeronius, when you update do you first go to synptic or do you simply use update mgr
[07:59] <Aeronius> I thought the Alternate CD was being called the server CD now?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: minimal gives kernel + bootloader + modules
[08:00] <Aeronius> ubuXubu: I use the update manager
[08:00] <Aeronius> I think
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Aeronius: I believe you can install server with the alternate
[08:00] <ubuXubu> Aeronius, i would 1st use synaptic
[08:00] <Ronaldlo> I think you can Aeronius
[08:00] <Ronaldlo> actually
[08:00] <Ronaldlo> you can
[08:00] <Ronaldlo> I remember seeing an option for it
[08:01] <FloodBot2> Ronaldlo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:02] <Ronaldlo> Hm, should I stick with 10.10? Or should I try something else?
[08:02] <ubuXubu> Aeronius, in synaptic you will handle updating and then when you choose update mgr it will say already up to date
[08:02] <Aeronius> Ronaldlo: you mean server vs alternate? well, I looked at ubuntu.com, and they're different, I thought they were the same thing as of 10.04... but I guess my info is either old or wrong
[08:02] <erikyyy> which component is responsible for automounting a usb stick?i.e. how can i stop that behaviour?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Ronaldlo: experiment with different distros if you like, each has advantages
[08:03] <Jordan_U> Ronaldlo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/ubuntu-10.10-alternate-powerpc.iso
[08:03] <Aeronius> I'm running update manager first
[08:04] <Aeronius> clicked install updates, let's see if it gives me any CD grief, but apparently not, it's downloading instead of looking for the cd. Thanks!!!
[08:04] <Ronaldlo> Jordan_U: I have that already.
[08:04] <ubuXubu> Aeronius, ok
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: They both use the same installer, and can both install either desktop or server. The difference is that the "Alternate" install CD contains all of the packages needed for ubuntu-desktop on the CD so you don't need to download them during install, and the "Server" install CD contains all the pacakges needed for ubuntu-server.
[08:04] <Ronaldlo> That is what has been giving me grief
[08:05] <azbr00> Ronaldlo: As I said, you can also go over and look at yellowdog if you want
[08:05] <Aeronius> I see, in any case, I was wrong about that
[08:05] <Jordan_U> Ronaldlo: You said that it was 710 meg, that file is 685 meg.
[08:05] <JiveTurkeh> Is there anyone able to help with open office.org word processor problem??
[08:06] <Jordan_U> !anyone | JiveTurkeh
[08:06] <najwa> JiveTurkeh: what your problem ?
[08:06] <Ronaldlo> azbr00: I think I'll do that   Jordan_U: The liveCD is 710, I need that for a memory test. The alternate is what I used because it was smaller.
[08:07] <najwa> Ronaldlo: alternate and live cd different on internal installer come with them
[08:07] <WALoeIII> is there dpkg help channel for the ppa build system?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> Ronaldlo: The alternate CD has memtest also.
[08:08] <JiveTurkeh> In openOffice, I'm trying to write a story, but the dang program wont let me go back to previous writen paragraphes  and edit/ backspace, Im just have alot of problems with it. Any please help.
[08:08] <najwa> ROnaldlo: alternate cd, i think has many similarities like debian-cd installer
[08:08] <Ronaldlo> Jordan_U: Where is that? I never saw it.
[08:09] <Jordan_U> Ronaldlo: Well, it's in the boot menu on the X86 CDs, I can't be sure for PPC.
[08:09] <gaten> is anyone aware if the openssl vulnerabilities affect ssh?
[08:09] <azbr00> Jordan_U: Openfirmware... no fancy graphics and almost no options......
[08:10] <ikonia> gaten: which bunerabilities?
[08:10] <karthee> Hi i am trying to install songbird in my ubuntu 10.10 .. but its not working any help ??   http://pastebin.com/w0TRNkpW
[08:10] <Ronaldlo> Jordan_U: What is it called? I might've over looked up
[08:11] <gaten> ikonia: http://securitytracker.com/alerts/2010/Nov/1024743.html
[08:11] <azbr00> Ronaldlo: Hope you get some success with the mac it's a nice machine, but it can be a pain to setup I have found... I'm going to try yellowdog next week in him.
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Ronaldlo: "Test Memory".
[08:11] <Sheet> how do I maximize size of screen with Ubuntu ? Desktop
[08:11] <ikonia> gaten: what vesion of ssh are you using  ?
[08:11]  * azbr00 is going
[08:11] <Sheet> Mximize/Minimize.
[08:12] <Ronaldlo> cya :)
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Ronaldlo: Do you even see a boot menu?
[08:12] <ikonia> gaten: sorry, what vesion of ssl are you using
[08:12] <gaten> oh there's the update. must have come online in the last 6 hours or so. kudos
[08:12] <kittkatt1> Hello, does anyone out there use a PCE-N13 ASUS wireless card?
[08:13] <Ronaldlo> Jordan_U: WIth the thing "boot: " and type help for help? Tab to list ccommands? Yes.
[08:13] <scgtrp> i can no longer unlock my kde session for some reason except by logging in on tty1 and killing kscreenlocker from there. any idea what could be wrong?
[08:14] <gaten> ikonia: 0.9.8o, but the patch is out now. but still would like to know if it affected ssh
[08:14] <ikonia> gaten: it would do, yes
[08:16] <gaten> seems like a pretty quiet vuln for the problems it could cause. guess it only matters if there's POC code out anymore
[08:16] <lixinfish> hello~ how to check the memory latency in Ubuntu?
[08:17] <lixinfish> i use 'sudo lshw -C memory', and get 'description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)'
[08:17] <lixinfish> is this means 4-4-4-12?
[08:19] <lixinfish> anybody help?
[08:19] <yooo> er irc.dal.net
[08:20] <najwa> lixinfish: just describe your problem here ?
[08:20] <zxd> what's the latest ubuntu ver
[08:20] <lixinfish> I just want to know at what latency my memory works
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | zxd
[08:20] <ubuXubu> 1010
[08:20] <lixinfish> 4-4-4-12 or 5-5-5-15 or 6-6-6-18
[08:21] <lixinfish> and don't know where to get it
[08:21] <zxd> ActionParsnip: can I bootstrap maverick?
[08:21] <zxd> debootstrap
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> zxd: i'd imagine so
[08:21] <ubuXubu> instal cpuz lixinfish
[08:21] <lixinfish> cpuz on ubuntu?
[08:22] <lixinfish> isn't it a windows software?
[08:22] <ubuXubu> lixinfish, or a similar package
[08:22] <lixinfish> em, can you recommend one?
[08:22] <ubuXubu> lixinfish, google cpuz for ubuntu or something like that
[08:22] <lixinfish> ok
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> lixinfish: lshw-gtk may do it
[08:23] <lixinfish> I'll give it a try, thank you
[08:24] <ubuXubu> lixinfish, TRY CPUG
[08:25] <ubuXubu> lixinfish, or gpuz
[08:26] <lixinfish> ok
[08:26] <ubuXubu> look it up in symantic
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Could just open the case and look at the DIMMs :)
[08:29]  * ubuXubu high fives lixinfish and follows up with a lil tap dance around the channel...
[08:31] <Maahes> okay, that's cool, I finally had an idea for a chained shell command that worked.
[08:31] <Maahes> ^_^
[08:31] <yaramazgeyik> hello everyone
[08:32] <Maahes> I've had things fail on && so many times.
[08:32] <solidrock> guys, is there a way i can chroot home directory
[08:32] <yaramazgeyik> can i ask a question
[08:32] <solidrock> i mean if the user login on his account he won't be able to browse the filesystem
[08:32] <solidrock> yes
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> solidrock: that doesn't make sense
[08:33] <solidrock> y?
[08:33] <yaramazgeyik> i hahe canon mp250 printer, and i find this printer's software for linux, but i cant install it :(
[08:33] <gaten> solidrock: you can do that if they use ssh
[08:33] <solidrock> if the cd on terminal he won't be able to view filesystem
[08:33] <Kevindeuxieme> you want to keep people from looking outside /home/name ?
[08:33] <solidrock> yes
[08:33] <solidrock> precisely
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> solidrock: you can chroot to change the root folder so if you have the liveCD iso you can manipulate it and chroot to that and the commands ran will affect the data on the ISO
[08:34] <solidrock> without liveCd
[08:34] <gaten> you would have to recreate whatever the user needs to run his or her seesion inside the chroot
[08:34] <gaten> or include, rather
[08:34] <yaramazgeyik> :/
[08:35] <solidrock> yeah, i'm looking for some way that they won't be able to see or browse outside /home/user directory
[08:35] <gaten> well, they kind of have to
[08:35] <gaten> for instance, all of the commands they use are outside of /home
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> solidrock: they will need read access to stuff so they can access and run apps
[08:35] <yaramazgeyik> anyone help me
[08:36] <gaten> yaramazgeyik: what do you mean you cant install it. it wont run?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> yaramazgeyik: been on the canon site to see if they have a driver?
[08:36] <solidrock> i mean interlink to the apps yes they can but viewing or cd outside home directory should be restricted
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> yaramazgeyik: they do make some drivers and only 32bit
[08:37] <gaten> solidrock: that wont be easy. and is probably overkill
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> solidrock: as they have read access they can cd all over. I'm not sure how you'd stop that
[08:37] <yaramazgeyik> yes it wont run
[08:38] <manuel_> someone help me with installing mythtv, im trying to unzip the .bz2 file and ./configure the file but it says "./configure: 2158: cannot create config.ep: Permission denied"
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> solidrock: if you have the user not a member of admin they won't be able to edit files outside of home
[08:38] <gaten> well, to cd into a directory you need rx perms, but yes
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> manuel_: mythtv is in the repo. Why not use that?
[08:38] <gaten> manuel_: sounds like you need to be root. or sudo
[08:38] <manuel_> im a noob, not sure how to do it
[08:39] <solidrock> i'm thinking if they can be restricted on that part
[08:39] <manuel_> yes i used sudo
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> yaramazgeyik: were. They in deb format? Please write my name in text addressed to me
[08:39] <gaten> solidrock: and average user, added to the system, has very limited rights
[08:39] <yaramazgeyik> ActionParsnip: how to install this dreiver in terminal
[08:39] <yaramazgeyik> driver*
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> manuel_: search software centre, it will install for you
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> yaramazgeyik: well I have no way of knowing what files you haveor their contents. So its waay to ambiguous to answer
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> yaramazgeyik: usually they are archives you extract, sometimes they are debs, sometimes its an installer
[08:41] <bang0> Hi.  10.10(64 bit).  When I try to copy a large file(11Gb) I get a "error splicing file: input output error" at 4.4Gb through the transfer.  This happens on an external USB drive as well as a internal SATA HDD.  Trying cp in bash yields the same failure...  Any ideas??
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> bang0: are you copying to a fat32 partition?
[08:41] <bang0> ActionParsnip, both are NTFS
[08:41] <manuel_> i installed everythign in software center under mythtv but i get this error msg when starting mythtv "Could not connect to the MySQL server: (1045, "Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)")"
[08:42] <przemek_> hi guys. I need to mount smb volume with exec permissions for files. is there any way to do that?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> bang0: are the partitions healthy?
[08:42] <bang0> ActionParsnip, yes.  I also find it strange they fail with same error, at the same place(4.4/11Gb) on both volumes.. the source file is healthy too.
[08:42] <nyaa> I had an academic question about kernels, wanted to know why sometimes there are updates to kernels as well as having modules (i.e. what can't be achieved by a module that can with a new kernel)
[08:44] <donkeybong> question about shares, I managed to "connect to server: windows shares" to an WinXP box but can't do the same to a Win7 box, all it does is keep asking for user name and password and I have tried every possibility
[08:44] <bang0> donkeybong, i can only testify win7 is "bitchy" about that.  you aren't alone.
[08:45] <gaten> they changed smb in win7, not sure if samba has caught up yet
[08:45] <ubuXubu> http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/212320-perlmon-cpu-z-like-program-linux.html          have never tried it myself lixinfish
[08:45] <lixinfish> ubuXubu, nevermind, I'll try it~
[08:46] <donkeybong> bang8 do I need to use a WinXP box to get the files out of my VirturalBox Ubuntu drive image?
[08:46] <gaten> nyaa: er, a module can't fix a broken function in the kernel. also, loaded modules are slower than stuff compiled into the kernel
[08:46] <lixinfish> btw, just tried lshw-gtk and hardinfo, and get nothing i need.
[08:46] <bang0> donkeybong, ghost the vm and pick out what you need that way
[08:46] <bang0> or run a live distro and mount it, take what you need?
[08:47] <donkeybong> bang8 any programs you recommend to do that?
[08:47] <yaramazgeyik> what is the .spec*format
[08:48] <bang0> donkeybong, can you back up and tell me what you need done?  I didnt get all of it
[08:48] <przemek_> does anybody know how to mount smb with exec permissions for files?
[08:49] <nyaa> gaten aha, I was reading on wikipedia and it said in version 2.0 they added support for multiple files, so that could have been done with a module but would just be much slower?
[08:49] <lixinfish> ubuXubu, em.. perlmon not working..
[08:49] <ubuXubu> hmmm
[08:49] <donkeybong> bang8 I am using Oracle VM VirturalBox on a Win7 host to run Ubuntu, I have downloaded some files on virtural Ubuntu computer and wish to transfer files too big to email over to windows
[08:50] <_Beast> use Car set with CFs
[08:50] <lixinfish> ubuXubu, :) it seems only cpu-z can get it and I just don't have windows in my computer@@
[08:50] <bang0> donkeybong, just mount the shares with VBox itself, its easy
[08:50] <bang0> let me load up my vm, to reference this
[08:50] <_Beast> utf8 and cifs
[08:51] <_Beast> i am thinking
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> **Error**: You must have `autoconf' installed to.
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> Download the appropriate package for your distribution,
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> or get the source tarball at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> **Error**: You must have `libtool' installed.
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> Get ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/libtool-1.2d.tar.gz
[08:51] <FloodBot2> yaramazgeyik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> (or a newer version if it is available)
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> **Error**: You must have `automake' installed.
[08:51] <gaten> nyaa: when you build a kernel, you can choose options that can be either compiled in, or modules. modules are dynamic and can be loaded and unloaded. stuff that is compiled in cannot
[08:51] <gaten> yaramazgeyik: use pastbin
[08:51] <bang0> donkeybong, under VBox goto shared folders in settings of your ubuntu vm, add a folder
[08:51] <yaramazgeyik> how
[08:52] <bang0> once in ubuntu, mount the share... then copy from the ubuntu vm to the win7 host
[08:52] <gaten> pastebin.com
[08:52] <_Beast> im thinking its this sudo mount -t cifs //netbiosname/sharename /media/sharename -o username=winusername,password=winpassword,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[08:52] <gaten> also read the irc guidelines page in the topic
[08:52] <nyaa> gaten: then is there a way to compile in all the drivers for my particular system so the sound and video will be faster?
[08:52] <bullgard4> Update Manager > Changes are being applied > Extracting templates from packages. What is here the function or task of the "templates"?
[08:53] <optraz> hi, how do i convert a word(mandarin/arabic) to unicode? example, 你好 to 4F60597D
[08:53] <gaten> nyaa: yes there is a way to compile in all your drivers, but it wont really speed that kind of stuff up
[08:53] <_Beast> anyone use samba SWAT
[08:53] <nyaa> gaten: would it make it take less resources?
[08:53] <przemek_> _Beast : is it about the question I asked?
[08:53] <_Beast> yes
[08:53] <bullgard4> optraz: For example, use a Unicode code table.
[08:54] <_Beast> install cifs
[08:54] <nyaa> gaten: also that's my last question since I know this is going down a huge rabbit hole I should probably go down a question or two a day, heh. Thanks for the help =)
[08:54] <gaten> nyaa: more i would think. the more stuff you add to the kernel the bigger it gets in memory. the ubuntu kernel is pretty bloated as it is
[08:54] <yaramazgeyik> how to donload for terminal
[08:54] <yaramazgeyik> download*
[08:54] <optraz> bullgard4: well, how do i do it programming way ;)
[08:54] <xerox1> is it possible to list packages to update before running an apt-get upgrade in the console and to choose which to update?
[08:54] <donkeybong> bang8 I added a folder and can't find it in guest Ubuntu
[08:54] <_Beast> change add wins to your nsswitchfille
[08:54] <gaten> nyaa: keep asking and googling; that's how you learn
[08:55] <nyaa> gaten; ok, then why is a big kernel bad? does it take memory that has a limit in size?
[08:55] <gaten> nyaa: if you want to stream line your kernel, the best thing you could do is *remove* the stuff you don't need
[08:55] <_Beast> then install winbind
[08:55] <bang0> donkeybong, its tricky, i can kinda help.. I have ubuntu host and win7 vm...opposite of you
[08:55] <bang0> donkeybong, but in the vbox .pdf user manual it does explain how to mount the share with your situation, ive done it before :)
[08:56] <gaten> nyaa: "bad" is kind of relative. most people wont' notice the difference. but if you stream line your kernel for your system and remove stuff it doesn't need, it will be smaller in memory
[08:57] <_Beast> i hoping ,y fstab is not screed
[08:57] <nyaa> gaten: what I don't get is how it being smaller in memory makes it more efficient aside from saving a few k, or heck even if it were a few megs, of space
[08:57] <gaten> there are a bunch of kernel optimization guides out there, google for some. experiment, building your own kernel is good for your soul :p
[08:58] <przemek_> _Beast, I used the mode optionse but the mounted share still has not executable files
[08:58] <nyaa> does having more in it mean it has to poll for more things in terms of time sharing?  that would make a lot of sense to this
[08:58] <bang0> gaten, i am sorta terrified of it, but i will be building a vm for that reason :P
[08:58] <gaten> bang0: that's waht vms are for
[08:59] <_Beast> hnnn
[08:59] <gaten> nyaa: honestly i dont know enough about kernel arch. to answer that truthfully
[08:59] <nyaa> gaten: hey, an honest answer is always the best one
[08:59] <gaten> as far as how it goes about allocated resources to "unused" portions of code
[08:59] <donkeybong> bang8 it is getting late for me, I think I may just use the other computer in the house that is running WinXP as an intermediate between the host and guest, just give it full access from both of my ends, will take time but it should work, thanks again for the help, I'll also try looking up that pdf
[09:00] <gaten> however, a piece of code with megs of unused functions is slower than a piece of code without them
[09:00] <bang0> donkeybong, be stubborn and do it the way i suggested, it is worth knowing how to do.. anyway goodnite
[09:00] <gaten> we're not really talking seconds here, in most cases. this is computer time, ms and ns
[09:02] <sling-shot> Hi
[09:02] <phusion__> Hey guys. does anyone know why my startup scripts that I've created with update-rc.d name defaults wont start upon reboot?
[09:02] <phusion__> nothing fancy happening
[09:03] <gaten> do they start with an 'S'
[09:03] <przemek_> does anybody know how to mount smb with exec permissions for files?
[09:03] <phusion__> gaten: some of them are K20 some S20
[09:04] <phusion__> in this particular case it's for an nginx server (not installed via apt.. my own startup file). but whats interesting is snmpd wont start either and it was installed with apt
[09:04] <sling-shot> Hi
[09:04] <gaten> did you enable them w/ update0rc?
[09:05] <phusion__> no, I didn't. what is that? I always thought it was update-rc.d script defaults
[09:05] <phusion__> this seemed to work without issue in debian
[09:05] <bang0> Hi sling-shot
[09:05] <gaten> oh yes, thats what i mean
[09:05] <phusion__> yea, thats how it was done.
[09:06] <sling-shot> Sorry for the double post :-)
[09:06] <nyaa> gaten: I think I figured it out. The kernel goes into ram, but not always into the processor's cache, it gets called in like anything else. So, if it is larger, there is a greater chance of part of it being needed in cache that is not already there, or of the parts that are there being so large that they cause the cache to fill up faster.
[09:06] <gaten> phusion__: im assuming you checked the rc.d dirs to make sure the scripts were present, and had executable perms?
[09:06] <phusion__> gaten: yes
[09:07] <phusion__> like i said - even after apt-get install snmpd snmpd doesnt start upon boot and its already in there
[09:07] <84XAA9TE9> hi all
[09:07] <gaten> are they running before something they need, like networking?
[09:07]  * [gnubie] waves
[09:07] <phusion__> well its a service that would bind to an IP so yeah
[09:07] <gaten> nyaa: sounds logical
[09:07] <84XAA9TE9> can you tell me if is possible to use the normale network manager of ubuntu for all the connections and wpa_supplicant for only one that doesn't work with the normal connection
[09:07] <84XAA9TE9> ?
[09:08] <[gnubie]> is anyone familiar on the logs located at http://www.pastie.org/1307843 ? i need to fix it as it is my production server. can anyone help me here?
[09:08] <gaten> phusion__: i mean is 20 before the networking script?
[09:08] <[gnubie]> any advice will be much appreciated.. thank you in advance..
[09:08] <phusion__> "networking" is S35networking
[09:08] <phusion__> so i assume thats after
[09:08] <bullgard4> Update Manager > Changes are being applied > Extracting templates from packages. What is here the function or task of the "templates"?
[09:09] <phusion__> how would i change them to be absolutely last?
[09:09] <gaten> phusion__: the largest number gets run last
[09:09] <gaten> so rename to like S80 or something
[09:09] <gaten> and K80, don't forget them
[09:10] <phusion__> rename? shouldnt i do it with update-rc.d
[09:10] <gaten> phusion__: probably. otherwise you'd have to go into each run level and rename them
[09:11] <cogaitrongngan> hi
[09:12] <tabasko> howdy there
[09:12] <cogaitrongngan> tabasko, hi
[09:12] <cogaitrongngan> hi there
[09:12] <cogaitrongngan> shashidhar, hi there
[09:12] <cogaitrongngan> are you indian ?
[09:13] <zambe> Hello. I'm trying to install 10.04 server on a xs35 box, but the installer doesn't recognize its ethernet controller (jmc261). I reckon kernel would need jme module but the installer image doesn't seem to have it. Any ideas what would be the easiest way to get it installed?
[09:13] <cogaitrongngan> or Pakistan ?
[09:13] <shashidhar> yeap I am Indian
[09:13] <cogaitrongngan> ok
[09:13] <cogaitrongngan> good
[09:18] <phusion__> gaten: even "update-rc.d -f script remove && update-rc.d script defaults 99" didnt do it.
[09:18] <phusion__> for snmpd - a service installed by apt even.
[09:18] <phusion__> stupid
[09:18] <ir-decoy> silent here
[09:20] <bullgard4> Update Manager > Changes are being applied > Extracting templates from packages. What is here the function or task of the "templates"?
[09:23] <frustro> eggdrop
[09:23] <gaten> phusion__: sorry, not sure. look in the logs for clues, also try running the script right nopw by itself and make sure it finishes
[09:23] <macno> hi, do you know which certificates database pidgin uses?
[09:24] <ftg2> bullgard4: its a list of questions that the user gets asked when a package is installed.
[09:24] <ftg2> bullgard4: http://debconf2.debconf.org/talks/debconf-debconf/templatesfile.mdwn  ... example template. its not really something you should worry about
[09:26] <mouse> Is there any reason why the default keyring would only unlock after a reboot and not after a complete shutdown?
[09:29] <c_nick> In Ubuntu 10.10 when I go in the Home Folder I usually see boxes with names like box for Home Box for User Box for Desktop.. can i have something like in earlier versions "Wand" where u could
[09:30] <c_nick> type /home/Desktop
[09:30] <iflema> c_nick ctrl+l
[09:31] <iflema> c_nick theres a setting in the gconf editor to apply permanently
[09:31] <c_nick> Oh cool.. thanks iflema :)
[09:31] <c_nick> nope Ctrl + L is good for me.. :)
[09:32] <c_nick> thanks .. cya
[09:32] <hahahshdhgs> hello everyone
[09:33] <skumara> i'm using ubuntu 10.10. I just install kubuntu plasma desktop. when i start ubuntu or kubuntu it ask my password to unlock keyring two times. how to fix this?
[09:33] <skiwithpete> hey, is ATOM a 32 bit or 64 bit chip (asking for mythbuntu)
[09:33] <ikonia> skiwithpete: 32
[09:34] <skiwithpete> ikonia, cheers
[09:34] <cube> hi, what's the best option to display some text on screen, on top of all other windows, I found sth called aosd_cat but I cannot display anything with it
[09:35] <nyaa> cube: could you be a bit more specific?  do you mean like a notification?
[09:35] <bullgard4> ftg2: You say, I should not worry about templates. But I am the user whom you mentioned. So you really mean that Update Manager itself will answer these questions in the templates?
[09:36] <ftg2> bullgard4: no. it will ask you the questions, if there are any
[09:36] <cube> nyaa: well yes, but not a popup, but a text that will show on top of all other windows
[09:36] <nyaa> cube: compiz has options for window management (as I'm sure other things do too) that allow you to put windows as "always on top". You could do that with Conky if you wanted a message or say processor stats/etc all above everything, and then make the window transparent so you can see through it
[09:37] <halpp> Hi everyone, I'm trying to mount my fat32 drive with execute permissions so I can run programs from it. There is no prior entry in fstab, how would I do this?
[09:37] <cube> nyaa: thanks, I will look at that
[09:37] <halpp> It's external and gets automatically mounted right now, only without execute permissions
[09:37] <Alpha> hello, can anyone have a look at this: http://pastebin.com/vQWijG5x
[09:38] <nyaa> cube: if you wanted just one constant piece of text you could probably just make a window transparent, but conky lets you do much more, and is made for that sort of purpose
[09:38] <Alpha> the error occurs when trying to start a new wm after an unsuccessful install of AfterStep
[09:38] <Alpha> I think startx got messed up
[09:39] <bullgard4> ftg2: Update Manager in the past often told me: "Extracting templates from packages"  but it never asked me any of the template questions. How come?
[09:39] <ftg2> bullgard4: what i meant was, you don't really have to worry about what they do. its all done automatically. only real reason to get into the details of templates is if you are creating your own package
[09:39] <ftg2> bullgard4: i suspect it always extracts templates, and that they are empty 90% of the time
[09:41] <pvh_sa> hi there has anyone got experience setting up virtual machines with virt-install? when i try to do so on 10.10 i get an error "libvirtError: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'"
[09:41] <bullgard4> ftg2: Yes. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[09:43] <Alpha> nvm, I solved the problem
[09:44] <ubuntu> I need a word processor that has a adjustable number of independent columns any ideas?
[09:46] <_Beast> ip address err
[09:46] <_Beast> i have those
[09:48] <palint240> irc gallium pls
[09:49] <mouse> Is there any reason why the default keyring would only unlock after a reboot and not after a complete shutdown?
[09:50] <Jezarith> I'm running into an issue where my hostname -f is incorrect. I've changed it several times, but it does not match the /etc/hostname file
[09:50] <Jezarith> Anyone experience this problem before?
[09:52] <karthik_> hi
[09:53] <Jezarith> I've even changed /etc/hostname to something completely different, and when I update it using `hostname -F /etc/hostname`, it shows the correct hostname when you type `hostname`, but not `hostname -f`
[09:54] <test_> .
[09:56] <__doc__> I'm not amused. I had the nvidia driver version 260.19.21 installed, but then there was an update yesterday, and now I have the kernel module for 260.19.12
[09:56] <__doc__> wtf?
[09:58] <__doc__> I ***NEED*** 260.19.21 because with 260.19.12 X freezes/crashes all the time and I work on opengl4 things
[09:58] <__doc__> srsly
[09:58] <__doc__> wtf?!
[09:58] <bang0> Moo..
[09:59] <mouse> this channel has changed so much in the last month
[09:59] <Jezarith> Ok, to revise my problem. If I change my hostname to anything else, I get "hostname: name or service not known". It should be noted that it is a machine on a subdomain, ie server.location.domain.com
[09:59] <bang0> you mean the influx of the demanding i want it now since it's free influx?
[10:00] <Diverdude> Is there a way to check the content of a package?
[10:00] <Diverdude> I have installed mysql-gui-tools and i dont think i am using all its programs, so i would like to know what it contains.  Anyone have any input?
[10:03] <krambiorix> hi guys , last night I upgraded to 10.0.4 but now when i try to switch java version with update-alternatives --config java   i get There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[10:08] <dreamcat4> `sudo ruby run-bash-installer.rb` - the bash installer creates files as user UID 501 ???
[10:08] <dreamcat4> but no user with UID 501 exists on the system ??
[10:09] <Diverdude> i downloaded a .deb file from mysql's homepage and tried to install it using : sudo apt-get install ~/Downloads/mysql-workbench-gpl-5.2.29-1ubu1004-i386.deb    but i get the error: E: Couldn't find package    Am I missing something?
[10:09] <dreamcat4> (it should create files as the current user, or root!)
[10:09] <dreamcat4> so whats going on there eh?
[10:10] <krambiorix> Diverdude, sudo dpkg - i ~/Downloads/mysql-workbench-gpl-5.2.29-1ubu1004-i386.deb
[10:10] <krambiorix> Diverdude, sry ::: sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/mysql-workbench-gpl-5.2.29-1ubu1004-i386.deb
[10:11] <Diverdude> krambiorix, can i delete the .deb file afterwards without consequence?
[10:11] <ikonia> Diverdude: yes
[10:11] <krambiorix> Diverdude, sure you can delete it from ~/Downloads/mysql-workbench-gpl-5.2.29-1ubu1004-i386.deb
[10:12] <Jays2001> any apache/php people in the house?
[10:12] <krambiorix> Jays2001, a bit
[10:12] <Jezarith> This is amazing. If I change my hostname to anything.anything.com, and type hostname -f, it returns : hostname: Name or service not known
[10:13] <Jays2001> I have an Apache process that is running away with teh CPU to the point of hanging the entire server. Is there any way to see what script is actually being ran that is causing the problem?
[10:13] <krambiorix> Jays2001, you checks top ?
[10:13] <krambiorix> *checked
[10:14] <Jays2001> apachetop?
[10:14] <Jezarith> He's asking if he can find out what inside of apache is causing the apache process to spike
[10:14] <Jezarith> top just shows the apache resources
[10:14] <Jezarith> the processes as a whole
[10:14] <Jezarith> Sorry, I don't have an answer for you Jays2001
[10:15] <Jays2001> running ps aux will show lines like...
[10:15] <Jays2001> www-data  4654 24.3  0.3  51444 15848 ?        S    10:02   1:05 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[10:16] <krambiorix> yeah ps -o user,pid,ppid,command ax | grep apache
[10:16] <Jays2001> and I can see hich cpu utilisation, but I heed to know what is causing it so I can go and fix it :)
[10:16] <pol90> good morning everybody
[10:17] <_Beast> aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:17] <danms> I've created a user. How do I make him access my external drive? I can't seem to chmod /media/drivename?
[10:18] <pol90> can't you access it by default?
[10:18] <danms> not with my new user
[10:19] <pol90> I had an user for my gf and she could access to external drives
[10:19] <danms> it 's a hd in three partitions, filesystem, music and movies
[10:20] <danms> it can access the file system
[10:20] <danms> when I try to cd into the other partitions it says I'm not allowed to do that
[10:20] <pol90> but not music & movies?
[10:20] <pol90> sudo?
[10:20] <danms> yes
[10:20] <Bish1> Hey guys, i discovered an issue with my wlan combined with WPA-EAP, with a wlan secured by WPA-EAP & a private key
[10:20] <danms> my new user isn't in the sudo file
[10:20] <Bish1> evry ubuntu laptop in this network seem to have disconnect issues
[10:20] <pol90> hmm
[10:20] <Bish1> http://pastebin.com/BLabE4S7  <-- this appears to be happen on evry ubuntu laptop
[10:20] <ucenik14> juznapruga
[10:21] <pol90> danms: have you tried to include your new user in the sudoers list?
[10:21] <Bish1> happening*
[10:21] <danms> I've tried following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[10:21] <_Beast> username
[10:22] <_Beast> had to take plaan b
[10:22] <danms> but I'm not sure what I need to change permissions on
[10:22] <danms> tried the devices in /media/, but might be totally off track
[10:23] <Jezarith> Anyway, repeating my problem. Sorry if I'm bugging people. I'm having some issues with setting my hostname. Now before you go "oh, what a noob", this is something I know how to do, but something on my system is broken, and it does not set properly. I changed the machine from server1.domain.com to server1.location.domain.com. `hostname` shows the correct hostname, but hostname -f shows it without the "location". When I change the ho
[10:23] <Jezarith> when using hostnmae -f
[10:23] <pol90> hmm
[10:23] <pol90> you just lost me
[10:23] <Somelauw> I run a python file by doing "./file.py" at the top is written ("#!usr/bin/python")
[10:24] <Somelauw> It says: bash: ./file.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[10:24] <Somelauw> ?
[10:24] <danms> #!/usr/bin/env python
[10:24] <ucenik14> jghj
[10:25] <danms> use that
[10:25] <danms> pol90: were you talking to me?
[10:26] <_Beast> $ sudo mkdir /home/username/mountname
[10:26] <_Beast> i just got lost
[10:26] <artypig78> hey guys, could someone help me with something really badass? (i promise there is something to gain from this... but i need a real geek :) )
[10:27] <timo> artypig78: define 'real geek'
[10:27] <artypig78> please pm me... i need soemone who knows how to sniff packets ;)
[10:27] <pol90> hotkeys & the 'fn' key do not work in my recently bought HP G62, anyone?
[10:27] <Jezarith> Alright, thanks anyway guys. I think I'm spending more time banging my head against the wall then it would take to just format the VM.
[10:27] <artypig78> and no i'm not trying to crack a neighbour's wifi lol
[10:27] <_ramo> hi
[10:27] <Somelauw> danms: Now it says ": No such file or directory".
[10:27] <_ramo> how can i change th default locale to be de_DE.utf8 ?
[10:27] <_ramo> with the console
[10:27] <pol90> danms: yes, i was talking to you xdd
[10:28] <_Beast> this should be intresting
[10:28] <_Beast> ahh
[10:29] <aLeSD> I resolved the problem with te installation by usbdrive
[10:29] <_Beast> workeres are arrivivng
[10:29] <halpp> Hi. I can't give my FAT32-formatted USB drives any execute permissions... what can I do to change this?
[10:29] <iflema> Somelauw are you running it from inside the python envronment or just punching ./whatever.py into the command line?
[10:30] <Somelauw> I am just punching it from the command line.
[10:30] <_Beast> i can taste it g.............
[10:30] <Petfrogg> hello
[10:30] <Somelauw> iflema: I am just punching it from the command line.
[10:30] <iflema> Somelauw try      python whatever.py
[10:30] <_Beast> yea vpns are nice
[10:31] <Somelauw> iflema, that works, but I am wondering why the shebang doesn't work. It does work for other python files except just this one.
[10:31] <Petfrogg> I got a problem with the keyboard - is there a onscreen keyboard in ubuntu that holds the special chars for spanish and swedish etc? I would like to have a "onboard" with all the chars of the UTF-8 and just scroll through to get what i want
[10:32] <Somelauw> And the shebang is exactly the same as the other files.
[10:32] <DryGrain> hello, why cant i find /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:32] <iflema> Somelauw this is not exactly the place for python programming...
[10:32] <Petfrogg> DryGrain: that file has moved to another type an notation in the new grub
[10:33] <Somelauw> It isn't a problem with python since my files works. It is a problem with the shebang.
[10:33] <DryGrain> Petfrogg, what is the new filename?
[10:33] <Petfrogg> dunno - google it
[10:34] <Petfrogg> it is a completly restructed
[10:34] <Petfrogg> but it is there...
[10:34]  * Petfrogg is not on his ubuntu right now
[10:35] <_Beast> wow
[10:36] <Gangrel> anyone can help me with idjc and jack? I installed them both but when jack is running i cannot stream
[10:36] <_Beast> it has to be a file within the user
[10:36] <_Beast> i fn forgot
[10:37] <ugliefrog> I have a nostomo n52 speed pad which works great...my problem is if i turn on rhytmbox the controler stops functioning and the led lights on it begin to flash...only program it does this with..
[10:38] <danms> Somelauw: that's strange. but I guess you know that.
[10:38] <_Beast> want to mount the share in a folder mountname inside a user's home folder
[10:39] <halpp> Hi. I can't give my FAT32-formatted USB drives any execute permissions... what can I do to change this?
[10:39] <_Beast> and a new mmmmountttname
[10:39] <DryGrain> can someone explain this link in the terms of grub2 for me? http://www.wikihow.com/Boot-a-Floppy-Image-Using-the-Grub-Bootloader
[10:39] <liper> 怎么玩阿
[10:40] <bazhang> !cn | liper
[10:40] <DryGrain> my .img file isnt booting and ive tried everything
[10:40] <_Beast> when all else fails go ddefault
[10:40] <user_> hello! everyone... anyone here knows anything about hacking??
[10:40] <DryGrain> lol user_
[10:41] <joaopinto> anyone else having issues logging into msn from pidgin ?
[10:41] <bazhang> user_, hacking what
[10:41] <halpp> Everyday I make sweet hacking noises at my keyboard :D
[10:41] <halpp> That is to say, I've got a bad cough.
[10:43] <DryGrain> random dcc chats are ruse user_
[10:43] <mrmachin1> anyone familiar with znc and checkinstall? i cant get it to install on ubuntu 8.04 lts :(
[10:43] <DryGrain> pings too
[10:43] <DryGrain> rude*
[10:44] <_Beast> volume username cifs servername sharename /home/&/mountname uid=&,iocharset=utf8,fmask=0770,dmask=0770 - -
[10:45] <blue_mushroom> Is there a #ubuntu-rant ?
[10:45] <blue_mushroom> :/
[10:45] <blue_mushroom> :D
[10:45] <blue_mushroom> Hello everybody :)
[10:45] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic blue_mushroom
[10:46] <blue_mushroom> Thanks bazhang  :)
[10:46] <Tellmarch> Hello, pidgin isn't connecting to msn since i updated my ubuntu.... it says "Unable to validate certificate"... I guess it has to do with the update of the SSL packages, is there a way to fix this problem?
[10:46] <yaramazgeyik> how to install a-desk??
[10:47] <halpp> I know this exact problem Tellmarch, the certificates are old. Just do mv .purple/certificates .purple/certificates.old and you should be good to go. Shut down Pidgin first, of course.
[10:48] <danms> repeat question: I have an external hd partitioned into a file system, music and movies part. I've created a guest account. my guest account can run a "dir /media/" and see the partitions there, but when I try to change to them or list their contents I get: " dir: cannot open directory /media/FLAC/: Permission denied"
[10:48] <danms> how can I give the guest user access to these partitions?
[10:48] <Tellmarch> halpp, I just tried, it didn't fix the problem... and certificate info says it's valid untill 2011... any other idea?
[10:49] <halpp> Was this the one that stated omega.contacts.msn.com's certificate was invalid?
[10:49] <Tellmarch> yes
[10:49] <soundgarden> sup
[10:49] <soundgarden> is this channel for open discussion
[10:49] <soundgarden> or is it strictly linux/ubuntu related
[10:50] <soundgarden> (which would be a shame considering it is the most active channel on the network)
[10:50] <halpp> Try it again? 1) Shut down pidgin, 2) rename the certificates folder, 3) restart pidgin... it should recreate the certificates I think
[10:50] <ysk> is it possible to change opacity of normal windows
[10:51] <halpp> This was the website I found regarding it
[10:51] <halpp> http://www.rantpaste.com/2010/11/18/pidgin-msn-error/
[10:51] <ryan_languagelab> Hi. I added myself to the group "www-data" and changed a file that has user=www-data and group=www-data permissions so it is rw-rw-r-- but I can't write to it. any hints?
[10:51] <blue_mushroom> danms: have you tried setting the access modes for the folder? and the ownership of that folder to another user that has the same group as your quest account?
[10:51] <soundgarden> how do you get ubuntu and is it any good?
[10:51] <Tellmarch> halpp, did it again, it recreates one certificate, for login.live.com, but still the same message about omega.contacts.msn.com
[10:51] <blue_mushroom> ryan_languagelab: I had the same problem
[10:52] <blue_mushroom> ryan_languagelab: i just logged otu
[10:52] <blue_mushroom> and logged back in
[10:52] <ysk> soundgarden: you should go to www.ubuntu.com
[10:52] <ysk> and follow the instructions over there
[10:52] <halpp> Hmm... I'm afraid I can't help then. That was the only thing I needed to do :(
[10:52] <soundgarden> okay
[10:52] <soundgarden> thanks
[10:52] <ysk> it is the finest distribution of linux
[10:53] <ysk> and far better then windows
[10:53] <ryan_languagelab> blue_mushroom: thanks i will try that
[10:53]  * hashashin nas
[10:53] <Tellmarch> halpp, ok, thanks for the help, i'll read that thread you linked to
[10:53] <ysk> does any body know how to change the opacity of normal windows? not the menu and title bar
[10:53] <danms> blue_mushroom: how do I do that? I thought I could chmod it give it access to all, however I don't know what to chmod
[10:54] <Tellmarch> halpp i see in the comments that it didn't work for several people '^^
[10:54] <halpp> Bummer :(
[10:54] <Tellmarch> "Swifty Says:
[10:54] <Tellmarch> Ah, it just took about 20 attempts before it got the new certificate. They may have a load problem right now!"
[10:54] <Tellmarch> i'll just wait :p
[10:55] <Tellmarch> halpp, ok it finally worked, thanks
[10:55] <halpp> No worries :D
[10:56] <blue_mushroom> danms: well you have an external drive, right? and you need to give access to a guest on it. why not making the owner of that drives mountpoint to a user that you have created, which is not the guest account but has the same group as the guest account. Then all you need to " chmod 664 /path/to/mount-point "
[10:56] <blue_mushroom> (why not make)
[10:56] <linuxdog> hi, All
[10:56] <blue_mushroom> Hi linuxdog
[10:57] <JackStoner> hey linuxdog
[10:57] <linuxdog> I am using Ubuntu 10.10
[10:57] <halpp> Hi. I can't give my FAT32-formatted USB drives any execute permissions, and no scripts run unless I sudo it first. Any dependencies in the script (i.e. java) get broken... what can I do to change this?
[10:57] <linuxdog> the problem is: the headphone does not work
[10:57] <danms> blue_mushroom: what, now I have to learn about mount points and groups?
[10:58] <danms> blue_mushroom,: jk :)
[10:58] <linuxdog> the PC I am using Dell E5410
[10:58] <JackStoner> halpp: what happens when you give it permissions??
[10:58] <blue_mushroom> Heh :D at least that's what I did in a similar situation danms  :)
[10:58] <danms> blue_mushroom: thanks for the pointers, I'll try to figure it out
[10:58] <Bruce_Wayne> halpp: how about `chmod -R 744 *`
[10:59] <halpp> JackStoner: It used to be nothing - I still had to sudo to run. Now I can't get the identified to match up because when I change it in fstab the drive changes to a different letter / number combination.
[10:59] <blueghost> ubuntu support the full qt4.7 library yet? not complete until the lack of a few. On whether the qt4.7 in ubuntu does not fully support?
[10:59] <JackStoner> halpp: can u read/write to the drive??
[11:00] <halpp> Yes, I can
[11:00] <halpp> I just can't execute
[11:00] <halpp> One moment while I try Bruce's solution
[11:00] <JackStoner> halpp: chmod +x * works??
[11:00] <JackStoner> ok
[11:00] <mouse> Is there any reason why the default keyring would only unlock after a reboot and not after a complete shutdown?
[11:00] <Bruce_Wayne> halpp: may be you will have to own the files first by 'chown'..
[11:01] <subone> Does anyone know of a way to refresh Nautilus from a script? I added a script to ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts which toggles the default emblem so I can track which files I've attended to (watched videos, etc...), but I don't see the result until I manually refresh the window. I'm wondering if I can refresh this window problematically.
[11:01] <subone> programatically*
[11:01] <DryGrain> user_, do not pm me about illegal crap
 calm down
 can u help me please...
 i want to hack in someones paypal account .... i just need the password... he owes me 86$... please help me..
 r u there????
[11:01] <FloodBot1> DryGrain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <DryGrain> !mods
[11:02] <halpp> Hmmm.. that didn't work
[11:02] <c0nv1ct> DryGrain, /ignore helps
[11:03] <shomon> hi can I get on ubuntu one from windows with tomboy synchronizer?
[11:03] <halpp> Bruce_Wayne: I am already the owner of these files, but I still can't seem to execute :(
[11:05] <nyaa> does sudo apt-get install gnome-do count as cloud computing?
[11:05] <blueghost> When I first installed ubuntu 10.10, qt4.7 not contain some of the underlying multimedia modules, and a few others.
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> nyaa, no
[11:05] <nyaa> why not?
[11:05] <Bruce_Wayne> nyaa: No
[11:05] <Tellmarch> is it new that firefox uses a lot of processes?
[11:05] <c0nv1ct> nyaa, look up the definition of cloud computing and find out
[11:06] <c0nv1ct> Tellmarch, kinda, they split off the plugin process
[11:06] <nyaa> when looking it up, I found this "Cloud computing is all the rage. "It's become the phrase du jour," says Gartner senior analyst Ben Pring, echoing many of his peers. The problem is that (as with Web 2.0) everyone seems to have a different definition."
[11:06] <c0nv1ct> Tellmarch, this was quite a few months ago though
[11:06] <Tellmarch> hmm, ok
[11:06] <c0nv1ct> nyaa, that isnt a definition, learn what it actually means first
[11:07] <DragonKeeper> everytime i try to login to msn using pidgin after this new update (ubuntu 10.04)   i get an error SSL Certificate Error   "The certificate for omega.contacts.msn.com could not be validated. The certificate chain presented is invalid."     anyone know how to fix this ?
[11:07] <Tellmarch> DragonKeeper, mv .purple/certificates .purple/certificates.old
[11:07] <Tellmarch> and restart pidgin
[11:07] <Tellmarch> and wait (few minutes)
[11:08] <nyaa> It gives the point that the word has multiple definitions, but given your response I won't waste more time.
[11:08] <DragonKeeper> tellmarch ok ill try
[11:08] <c0nv1ct> nyaa, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
[11:09] <halpp> Lol Tellmarch guess what. They messed with the certificates again
[11:10] <Tellmarch> i'm still connected ! :p
[11:13] <jpartogi> does anyone use ruby cassandra driver here?
[11:13] <DragonKeeper> Tellmarch ok it didnt work the way u said  but  i did move them to another folder and then let pidgin generate a new login file then moved the other 3 from the old  to new folder       works perfect :)
[11:13]  * hashashin re
[11:14] <blueghost> i want to know now Does ubuntu deb repo contain whole libs of qt 4.7. Something(maybe some low-level media libs) seems to be missing after last upgrading on my computer. Qt 4.6 and the earlier version is complete. Then I download and install qt 4.7 from the official site, it works well
[11:14] <Tellmarch> DragonKeeper, apparently it doesn't work exactly the same for everyone, there are problems with the server as well...
[11:14] <Tellmarch> but as long as it works :p
[11:15] <blueghost> thx
[11:15] <sda_> i started a process with my termina, now i have to kill the terminal but not the process, how can i split father process to son process? i know there is a command but i cannot find it! thanks!
[11:15] <jrib> sda_: disown
[11:15] <sda_> jrib THANKS!
[11:16] <DragonKeeper> Tellmarch  ty :)
[11:16] <_Beast> this was the main go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[11:17] <_Beast> i haavee to reconfigure smb.conf and fstab
[11:18] <DragonKeeper> anyone know how to get ubuntu 10.04 to recognise xbox 360 wired headset on the control in system sound ??
[11:18] <opc0de> hello
[11:18] <_Beast> ello
[11:19] <_Beast> oR
[11:19] <pea[0]> do any of you read any computer related magazines?
[11:19] <_Beast> never
[11:19] <bazhang> !ot | pea[0]
[11:20] <_Beast> related
[11:20] <pea[0]> ubuntu is computer related
[11:20] <_Beast> pppopular science
[11:20] <bazhang> pea[0], wrong channel
[11:20] <_Beast> lol
[11:20] <_Beast> linux admin
[11:20] <_Beast> Hackingit
[11:21] <_Beast> 2600
[11:21] <blueghost> i want to know now Does ubuntu deb repo contain whole libs of qt 4.7. Something(maybe some low-level media libs) seems to be missing after last upgrading on my computer. Qt 4.6 and the earlier version is complete. Then I download and install qt 4.7 from the official site, it works well
[11:21] <bazhang> _Beast, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:21] <Shotgunfool> Hey everyone, last night i downloaded and installed ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop, everything is working perfectly except i cannot change the screen resolution to fit the screen and when i change the settings the screen just goes all fuzzy, iv reinstalled twice to see if that would fix the problem but it hasnt, i believe it has just set the default resolution to 1280 x 1024 but i cannot change it.  Please stop.
[11:22] <blueghost> thx， Who can answer my question
[11:22] <_Beast> ubuntu on evo anyone
[11:24] <_Beast> did u say get a probleem u fuck
[11:24] <TritoLux> hello tehre, does anybody know when the ubuntu forums will be back online?
[11:25] <pea[0]> when you've formally apologized
[11:25] <popey> TritoLux: the sysadmins are aware of the issue
[11:25] <_Beast> rofl
[11:25] <_Beast> uh oh mac and  name change
[11:25] <_Beast> cmon
[11:25] <TritoLux> thanks popey, I hope they'll fix it soon as they are desperately needed
[11:26] <jrib> _Beast: stop with the offtopic and language or you'll be removed from the channel
[11:26] <_Beast> so sorry i promise it will not happen again dont tell mom
[11:26] <iram> Hi
[11:27] <Shotgunfool> Anyone availble to help at all?
[11:27] <iram> my distro wont boot
[11:27] <jrib> Shotgunfool: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[11:27] <iram> after a failed synaptic update
[11:27] <iram> i need help please
[11:27] <Shotgunfool> i already have asked the question but no one responded
[11:27] <iram> i chose "open a shell"
[11:28] <jrib> !helpme | Shotgunfool
[11:28] <jrib> !fixres > Shotgunfool
[11:28] <iram> then synaptic wouldn't finish
[11:28] <yaramazgeyik> i cant play dvd :( help me
[11:28] <jrib> !enter | iram
[11:28] <jrib> !dvd > yaramazgeyik
[11:29] <iram> Synaptic crashed while updating kernels, now it wont boot. I cannot boot with older kernels
[11:29] <_Beast> mounting smb shares via samba and cifs anyone
[11:30] <jrib> !samba | _Beast
[11:30] <_Beast> omg
[11:30] <halpp> Oh shit
[11:30] <halpp> I think I just killed my drive
[11:30] <_Beast> i neeed swat
[11:31] <_Beast> apt-get samba-swat?
[11:31] <yaramazgeyik> i cant play dvd again
[11:32] <yaramazgeyik> any program
[11:32] <yaramazgeyik> do you refer
[11:32] <popey> !dvd | yaramazgeyik
[11:34] <iram> i cannot boot
[11:34] <blackshirt> iram: can you describe warning or error ?
[11:35] <n2diy> can I tell which version of Ubuntu I'm using from the CLI?
[11:35] <jrib> !version | n2diy
[11:35] <bazhang> n2diy, lsb_release -a
[11:35] <iram> no warnings or errors whatsoever, it just gets to the login screen then hangs. No luck booting with older kernels
[11:37] <iram> blackshirt: a synaptic update failed and i had to reboot, but now i am stranded at login screen
[11:37] <blackshirt> iram; try to boot on single / recovery mode
[11:37] <semaphore__> try it
[11:38] <semaphore__> 内核开发讲座什么时候开始？
[11:38] <n2diy> My test box is running Xubuntu 10.04 Lucid, but from the apps/help menu it indicates 9.10?
[11:39] <Superbest> hi, can anyone help me with connecting to wired/wireless networks from the command line
[11:40] <Superbest> here's one of my attempts, I'm not sure what's going on here: http://pastebin.com/KgvpHMd9
[11:40] <iram> blackshirt: i tried that recovery mode but no luck it still hangs
[11:41] <bazhang> Superbest, sudo dhclient eth0  (presuming eth0 shows in ifconfig)
[11:41] <Shotgunfool> When i have my screen resolution on 1600x1200 it is clear and how the screen should look but there is half the screen missing on the right and bottom, but when i try to lower the resolution, the display messes up and goes all fuzzy, anyone know a workaround for this? as the monitor preferences tool doesnt seem to work for me.?
[11:42] <Superbest> bazhang: "retrieve packet failed network" - how come? My network works fine if I use the GUI wicd
[11:43] <c0nv1ct> Shotgunfool, that problem is called overscan, you should be able to find resources online to help fix it
[11:43] <c0nv1ct> Shotgunfool, http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=overscan  <- i'd start there
[11:43] <Shotgunfool> Thanks, will give it a go
[11:44] <iram> i cannot boot after failed synaptic update including kernel management, recovery mode wont work, hangs at login screen, read kernel.log didnt spot any errors there
[11:44] <Superbest> bazhang, just to clarify, my hardware should be working fine. I just don't know how to use the CLI to do this. (or much anything for that matter)
[11:46] <rohan7> Couldn't find package libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[11:47] <alumnopcpi> ii cv roman p aici??
[11:47] <rohan7> how to install experimental compiz drivers?
[11:47] <alumnopcpi> II CEVA ROMAN P AICI??
[11:47] <alumnopcpi> II CEVA ROMAN P AICI??
[11:47] <alumnopcpi> II CEVA ROMAN P AICI??
[11:47] <alumnopcpi> II CEVA ROMAN P AICI??
[11:47] <alumnopcpi> II CEVA ROMAN P AICI??
[11:47] <FloodBot1> alumnopcpi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <e-DIO-t> alumno, guess not :P
[11:48] <e-DIO-t> ooh is gone
[11:48] <danrrico_> hello?? any one here that can help me out??
[11:49] <sina> how can i limit a program speed with python
[11:49] <iram> dqnrrico_: go ahead describe your problem
[11:49] <djamel> danrrico_ just ask
[11:49] <danrrico_> new to this, just installed ubuntu 10.10 yest. and
[11:49] <danrrico_> the top bar bottom bar and side bar are not there
[11:49] <sina> how can i limit a program speed with python
[11:50] <erUSUL> iram: bott into livecd; chrrot to the messed up install and try to finish the failed upgrade ?
[11:50] <danrrico_> its been very hard to navigate and find my self around
[11:51] <Shotgunfool> are the ubuntu forums down?
[11:51] <rohan7> how to install experimental compiz drivers?
[11:51] <iram> erUSUL: i have no burner nor livecd here, i can access the filesystem from my windows dualbooth though, anything i can do to fix?  Can u help me out w/ my question?
[11:53] <WierdAAR> Hello. I have an external harddrive, which have had some problems, and actually I think It's properly dead, but ubuntu tells me "disk failure is imminent" (dosn't surprise me) but I don't know how to understand the data Ubuntu is showing me. and what to do whit it, so if anyone would take a look and tell me what it means, I would be much appreciated (Data is at http://imagebin.ca/view/tyb4KJ.html & http://imagebin.ca/view/yC1Lal5M.html)
[11:53] <iram> erUSUL: unfortunately not, i am away from home for a week
[11:54] <danrrico_> iram_: do u know how to help me out??
[11:54] <erUSUL> iram: when the boot process hangs there is no error message in the screen? of any type?
[11:55] <iram> erUSUL: None, it just hangs at login screen
[11:55] <iram> nothing in kernel.log either
[11:55] <iram> erUSUL: and i can't get a shell
[11:56] <danrrico_> If the side, top and bottom bar are not visible. What can I do?? just installed 10.10 yest/ and after logging in, nothing is on the screen.
[11:56] <erUSUL> iram: "syslog" and "messages" are more important logs
[11:56] <danrrico_> but I can still click on the turn of button and left top button
[11:57] <danrrico_> any one??
[11:57] <zasek> what
[11:58] <bio> zasek i want to sex with you
[11:58] <iram> erUSUL: boot.log: init: udevtrigger post-stop process (425) terminated with status 1
[11:58] <zasek> hehe
[11:58] <bio> zasek  you are bitch
[11:58] <erUSUL> !panels
[11:58] <iszak> So I'm using Tilda and I want to start two instances at start-up but it needs to sleep because otherwise the transparency messes up this is the command (it works if I put it in terminal but not start-up) sleep 5 && tilda && tilda
[11:58] <zasek> are you?
[11:58] <Superbest> also when I do command --help from the cli, sometimes it is more than one screen, how do i scroll it? Like /p in windows cmd
[11:59] <iszak> page up/down
[11:59] <erUSUL> iram: that does not help much... ( not me at least ) to understand the problem
[11:59] <iszak> Superbest, I often use "man command" if it supports it, much better.
[11:59] <Superbest> izsak does man include whatever is in the helps?
[11:59] <jrib> Superbest: pipe to less (command
[11:59] <jrib> Superbest: pipe to less (command --help | less)
[11:59] <iszak> Superbest, man => manual, should do.
[12:00] <iszak> Then press "q" to quit, page up/down to scroll and "/" then string + enter to search.
[12:01] <iram> erUSUL: sys.log: rsyslogd-2039: Could no open output file '/dev/xconsole'
[12:02] <danrrico_> ubottu_: is there space in between?? I tried one time, typed it all and did not work.
[12:02] <Superbest> izsak oh I know about the mans, I just didn't know if the information is the same as in help
[12:02] <jaapvisser> does anybody know the apache version of ubuntu 10.10 server LTS? On the servertechspecs page I can read it's apache 2.2 but I need apache > 2.2.12 so I want to be sure.
[12:02] <erUSUL> iram: i do not have that device either. so it is not essential to the system. just a warning.
[12:02] <jrib> jaapvisser: 10.10 is not LTS
[12:03] <iszak> Superbest, it's probably more extensive.
[12:03] <Superbest> ah ok
[12:03] <Superbest> anyway,
[12:03] <jaapvisser> owe it's 10.04 i see..
[12:03] <iszak> jaapvisser, most LTS back port bug fixes so if there's an update in a newer version it should be back ported.
[12:03] <Superbest> anyway, | less does what I want
[12:03] <Superbest> I needed something for ls output etc as well anyway
[12:03] <halpp> Hi. Is there something I should know about mounting with fstab? My directories have been rendered unusable @_@
[12:03] <jrib> !info apache2 hardy | jaapvisser
[12:04] <jrib> erm
[12:04] <jc> anyone who use gnuplot??
[12:04] <jrib> !info apache2 lucid | jaapvisser
[12:04] <iszak> LOL only 45kb :D
[12:04] <danrrico_> I can not see the panel on the top, left or bottom. What can i do to reset it?
[12:04] <lapion> halpp I think you need to be more verbose
[12:04] <Superbest> so does anyone here know how to start xchat from the cli? I get "no protocol specified"
[12:04] <jaapvisser> tnx ubottu .....
[12:04] <jrib> jaapvisser: that last bit from ubottu is for 10.04
[12:05] <jc> anyone who use gnuplot??
[12:05] <halpp> Basically I can see the files on my external hard disk drive (fat32), but the directories have stopped working
[12:05] <tabasko> Superbest, if you want cli irc, irssi is better :)
[12:05] <iram> erUSUL: Do you have any idea how i can troubleshoot the bootup sequence ?
[12:05] <halpp> I mounted it via fstab instead of just plugging and playing because I needed execute permissions
[12:05] <Superbest> tabasko, no I just want to run the gui xchat as a different user
[12:05] <halpp> Here is the fstab entry, if it's any help
[12:05] <halpp>  LABEL=Elements	/media/Elements	vfat	defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=100	0	0
[12:05] <Superbest> tabasko, apparently I shouldn't use irc as root, but backtrack logs me in as root by default
[12:06] <jaapvisser> will look into it trying to get SNI working 1 ip multiple SSL hosts.
[12:06] <erUSUL> iram: you can try editting /boot/grub/grub.cfg and removing quiet and splash from the kernel line you use to boot
[12:06] <erUSUL> iram: then reboot and see what messages you get
[12:06] <lapion> halpp directories need execute permissions to be opened
[12:06] <danrrico_> I can not see my panels, what can I do do?? just installed 10.10 yest and panels are not working
[12:06] <iram> erUSUL:thanks good idea i will try this and come back to you hopefully from my linux bos ;)
[12:07] <halpp> Don't they have it? :X
[12:07] <tabasko> Superbest man xchat ? That sounds like that that xchat cant have access to work
[12:07] <erUSUL> iram: the lines are something similar to « linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.32-26-generic root=UUID=rendom-string-here ro   quiet splash »
[12:07] <erUSUL> iram: remove the trailing quiet and splash
[12:07] <Superbest> tabasko, yeah I figured out how to do it from the gui, but how do I do it from cli?
[12:07] <tabasko> Superbest, its trying to make .congig file in your home, which is root but you dont have access to it as normal user
[12:08] <tabasko> umm
[12:08] <lapion> halpp depends on your umask..
[12:08] <Superbest> tabasko I am not trying to run it as root, I first su to another user, then do xchat
[12:08] <lapion> do ls -l and see if they have x..
[12:08] <halpp> My fstab entry for the drive is there.. am I missing something?
[12:08] <danrrico_> the panels are not working and just downloaded ubuntu 10.10 yest. What can I do??
[12:09] <danrrico_> need help!!!!
[12:09] <halpp> Oooh. I can't even go inside o_O
[12:09] <iram>  erUSUL: Oh but the recovery mode is already without spash and quiet
[12:10] <erUSUL> iram: yes; you did not see anything wrong while booting into it?
[12:10] <tabasko> Superbest, xserver running by root?
[12:11] <Superbest> tabasko, yes, probably superbest (the user I made) isn't running xserver
[12:11] <tabasko> if you have logged in as root and started xserver, no another user can use it
[12:11] <tabasko> yeah
[12:11] <Superbest> tabasko, so how do I fix that?
[12:12] <iram>  erUSUL: just says that filesystem is clean and then gets to login screen and stays hung up there
[12:12] <jaapvisser> !info openssl lucid | jaapvisser
[12:12] <tabasko> I dont know if you can use roots xserver, btw why you are running xserver by root?
[12:12] <halpp> Aha, my umask was the wrong value
[12:12] <halpp> :D
[12:12] <danrrico_> any one know how to help me with the panels that are not working??
[12:12] <Superbest> tabasko, backtrack logs in as root by default
[12:13] <danrrico_> any one????????????
[12:14] <blackshirt> !reset
[12:14] <tabasko> Superbest, hey, try gksu
[12:14] <blackshirt> !reset-panel
[12:14] <danrrico_> how do I reset the panel??
[12:14] <erUSUL> iram: :/  using « sysrq + t » will dump a trace to console but probably would b e useless to users like us ...
[12:14] <tabasko> Superbest, I dont have tried it by myself, but maybe it can give you access to use roots x
[12:15] <DJones> !panels | danrrico_
[12:15] <iram> erUSUL: i rebooted with alt sysrq didn't know i could get a trace gonna try it
[12:15] <tabasko> Superbest, gksu -u superbest xchat
[12:15] <Superbest> tabasko, still complains about protocol
[12:16] <Superbest> tabasko, what protocol is it anyway? maybe it's easier if I just make the config file
[12:16] <danrrico_> DJones_: ubottu gave me a code but did not work i dont hink
[12:16] <iram> erUSUL: do you have any idea why i can't even boot with older linux kernels that were known to work? i have noticed that once before that after installing a new kernel the old one won't boot (hang) this is not what is supposed to happen
[12:17] <erUSUL> iram: maybe is some userspace ( vital ) the one that hangs up... init; login. etc... who knows
[12:17] <DJones> danrrico_: Sorry, I knew of the prompt to get ubottu to give the info, its not something I've used myself
[12:17] <tabasko> Superbest, most easiest would be that you log in as your regular user of course. protocol what it is complaining about is xserver
[12:18] <iram> erUSUL: thanks for your help
[12:18] <tabasko> Superbest, isnt there way to config gdm or other login manager it is using to log in as user?
[12:18] <danrrico_> DJones_: should just reboot and reset 10.10?? because its not working all that right
[12:18] <Superbest> tabasko, might be but I don't want to do that. For one I'd need to hop back and forth between users then
[12:18] <DJones> danrrico_: I would have expected that you'd need to restart X or reboot after running that command
[12:19] <Superbest> tabasko, and in any case I'd like to figure out what is wrong with this way
[12:19] <danrrico_> DJones_: what do u mean restart X or reboot??
[12:19] <r4d1x> how long would it take partman to deal with 3 1tb drives on install?
[12:20] <DJones> danrrico_: I would just restart the computer so that any changes to the desktop can be picked up when it restarts
[12:20] <Superbest> tabasko, normally when backtrack boots, I am logged in as root and I get just command line, then type startx and kde launches
[12:20] <Superbest> perhaps that is relveant
[12:20] <Nat_> hi everyone!!
[12:21] <blackshirt> hi
[12:21] <Nat_> I have problem to install kde on ubuntu!! Can you help me ??
[12:21] <Superbest> tabasko, I tried to startx after doing su but... oh
[12:21] <Superbest> tabasko, "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[12:21] <blackshirt> Nat_: just install kubuntu-desktop packages will bring kde desktop to your linux
[12:22] <Superbest> tabasko, so how do I authorize users to run the X server?
[12:22] <Nat_> blackshirt, I've tried but there is a problem with dependences...
[12:22] <tabasko> Superbest, yeah, user doesnt belong to group which jas permission to run it :)
[12:22] <distant2> i'm installing ubuntu but using the advanced partitioner so that i can choose ext3 filesystem. can someone tell me how many partitions i have to make? i don't really know. i have 250 GB of HDD space.
[12:23] <Superbest> tabasko, so how do I mess with permissions?
[12:23] <tabasko> Superbest, useradd -G group-name username
[12:23] <edson1234> Hello
[12:23] <brian_> Howdy. Where can I learn to use this?
[12:24] <tabasko> Superbest, you can check the group from /etc/group
[12:25] <edson1234> How do I enable my wireless? It says Wireless Disabled. I accidentally switch of the wireless switch on my laptop. I already switched it back but it won't let me use my wireless.
[12:25] <brian_> edson1234 which version?
[12:26] <Lambert> âñåì ïðèâåò
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> edson1234:  ive had some odd laptops where i had to boot to wndows.. turn on the wireless. then boot back to linux.
[12:26] <Superbest> tabasko, there's a bunch of stuff there along with "superbest" and "root"
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> edson1234:  some bug in the drivers i think.
[12:26] <Superbest> tabasko, anyway, what is my group-name supposed to be?
[12:27] <danrrico> ok, reset the computer and panels still not working right, what can I do to fix it??
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanels
[12:27] <brian_> edson1234: I have that with my eee and 10.10
[12:27] <karthick87> My Trash bin is not opening. It just shows the "loading" mouse cursor forever. Any idea what can be wrong?
[12:27] <tabasko> Superbest, I think it would be "video"
[12:28] <Superbest> tabasko, "useradd: user superbest exists" I think I need something to change the groups superbest belongs to
[12:29] <abcd_> hello]
[12:30] <yaramazgeyik> how to install dictonary?
[12:31] <tabasko> Superbest, I found this: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/backtrack-howtos/1741-howto-create-unprivileged-non-root-user-backtrack.html
[12:32] <yaramazgeyik> ?
[12:32] <tabasko> Superbest, because you Im now installing backtrack to kvm to test what this is all about :D
[12:32] <Superbest> tabasko, ah it should work though thanks
[12:32] <Superbest> tabasko, "usermod" was the magic word I was looking for I think
[12:32] <Superbest> lemme see
[12:32] <Lambert> like as in the forehead by a dick and a spoon Postol))
[12:33] <Superbest> hmph... why won't they just dump this stuff on the default backtrack desktop?
[12:34] <tabasko> Superbest, Im wondering that too.  Suddenly I can't boot. Freezes with ubuntu logo and purple dots below.
[12:35] <ghostlines> it's almost impossible to never see errors in the system log right?
[12:35] <Superbest> tabasko, I believe the maintainers are aware that many inexperienced people use it, too
[12:35] <Superbest> tabasko, oh well *shrug*
[12:36] <shawnboy> last thing i did was apply libssl updates
[12:36] <LjL> !language | Lambert
[12:36] <LjL> !ru | Lambert
[12:37] <tabasko> Superbest, maybe so. But using root as default for evrything is horrible :) Its like using windows 98
[12:37] <shawnboy> Can someone help me figure out why i can't boot? things freeze at logo.
[12:37] <Lambert> e females to talk Rooskey,,
[12:38] <tabasko> Superbest, but maybe its to ease things up, when you would like to rescue files from broken install of ubuntu for example
[12:38] <Superbest> tabasko, oh I meant that it would be nice if there was a folder called tutorials on the desktop which explains why you shouldn't run as root and how not to
[12:38] <neo_duality> so guys
[12:38] <neo_duality> how's life
[12:38] <noobie25> hi everyone
[12:38] <noobie25> is anyone familiar with apache..?
[12:38] <tabasko> Superbest, oh, maybe you should try to give that idea to bractack channel :)
[12:39] <Superbest> tabasko, I'll see if anyone answers me. Nobody has so far =/
[12:39] <noobie25> hello
[12:39] <Superbest> tabasko,  startx barfed on me again btw. But it's a different barf this time
[12:40] <Superbest> tabasko, because I'm stupid and forgot to add video along with the others to myself...
[12:40] <tabasko> Superbest, maybe theyre too high to help, or sleeping :P What it did give to you?
[12:40] <Superbest> one sec
[12:40] <yaramazgeyik> i need dictionary
[12:41] <yaramazgeyik> pls help me
[12:41] <gnuskool> noobie25: i think everyone is familiar with apache :D
[12:41] <noobie25> haha
[12:41] <noobie25> gnuskool: sorry, i'm noob.
[12:41] <gnuskool> noobie25: no prob, lots here are, did you want to know something, just assk the question
[12:42] <noobie25> gnuskool: thanks....i'll try that :)
[12:42] <tripmasterfbi> !seen likvidy
[12:42] <tripmasterfbi> D:
[12:43] <tabasko> yaramazgeyik: Applications -> Office -> Dictionary ?
[12:43] <noobie25> i'm trying to integrate facebook api and twiiter api ...and wanted to use their webservices... as well as create of my own.   As a starter, i noticed there are lots of apache versions...any recommended?
[12:45] <yaramazgeyik> but i cant find my language...
[12:45] <yaramazgeyik> but i install it:(
[12:47] <ste_> xdcc send
[12:47] <tabasko> yaramazgeyik, you should ask your local ubuntu channel if there is dictionary support for your language, if so, you can add languages from configure-> add
[12:47] <mortal> can anyone connect to msn on maverick?
[12:48] <rigved> yaramazgeyik: also, if you are unable to get a response from their irc channel, the use the mailing list!
[12:48] <iwohaoaini> insyde bios 跟linux兼容不好怎么办啊
[12:48] <rigved> !cn | iwohaoaini
[12:48] <iwohaoaini> ok
[12:49] <ramrebol_> hi, I'm following a gvim tutorial, what it means "Goto normal mode and press \ll"??
[12:49] <rigved> ramrebol_: well, there is insert mode and command/normal mode
[12:50] <noobie25> gnuskool: I'm would like to create a web application (and later mobile application) by using facebook & Twitter Api's.  I would like to use their API as well as create some of my own webservices.   I noticed a lot of Apache version (ie: Tomcat) and also Java Frameworks to use to tie with Mysql... any recommendations for me?
[12:50] <sipior> ramrebol_: normal mode is the initial mode of the editor. type "Esc" to get to normal mode from insert mode.
[12:50] <rigved> ramrebol_: to enter commands, you need to enter the normal mode. just press Esc key when in the insert/editing mode to enter the normal mode
[12:51] <wildc4rd> probaly been discussed before, anyone tried that new fast kernel patch yet?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ramrebol_:  sounds liek a typo in the tutorial.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ramrebol_:  unless its meaning how to 'search' for '11'
[12:51] <Daghdha> hi
[12:52] <Daghdha> I been having network issues where my badly supported network card didn't work right. When i restarted the network connection it would be ok again.
[12:52] <Daghdha> However..
[12:52] <StealthB> unhandled exception (type std::exception) in signal handler:
[12:52] <Daghdha> It's been ok now for over a week
[12:52] <StealthB> what: basic_string::_S_create
[12:52] <StealthB> unhandled exception (type std::exception) in signal handler:
[12:52] <StealthB> what: basic_string::_S_create
[12:52] <FloodBot1> StealthB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <StealthB> Oh sorry
[12:52] <Superbest> tabasko so is there a command for "list groups that a user belongs to"?
[12:52] <ramrebol_> rigved: sipior: rigved: Dr_Willis: thanks. In normal mode I type ":command", what it means \ll. (the tutorial is http://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/documentation/latex-suite-quickstart.html#lsq-compiling, in 8 Compiling a document)
[12:52] <Daghdha> I don't understand why it suddenly isn't dieing anymore, can updates from Ubuntu also fix network-driver issues?
[12:52] <Ginbuntu> can some one recommend me an app to track my expenses?  I need something simple.
[12:52] <mortal> when will ubuntu maverick get the new libpurple which works with msn? they did changes today
[12:52] <sipior> Dr_Willis: "\" is the default map leader, probably some plugin specific key sequence.
[12:53] <StealthB> Hey people, I got a problem. When I try to launch gparted, I get the error described here. I need to format my USB stick to get it to work I think, but is there any way I can format a read only USb stick without gparted? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/617885
[12:53] <sipior> Dr_Willis: at least, it doesn't appear to do anything in my editor :-)
[12:54] <ghostwheel> is there a vst enabled package of ardour floating around somewhere?
[12:54] <ghostwheel> for 10.10
[12:54] <sipior> ramrebol_: what happens if you just try typing the three key sequence "\||" in normal mode?
[12:54] <tabasko> Superbest, it would be: groups :
[12:54] <tabasko> :P
[12:54] <ramrebol_> sipior: nothingm that's my problem
[12:55] <ramrebol_> sipior: backslash dont work
[12:55] <sipior> ramrebol_: have you installed the plugin? have you changed the default map leader key?
[12:56] <Daghdha> can ubuntu also run VMWare?
[12:56] <tabasko> yup
[12:56] <deww> StealthB: can you use fdisk ?
[12:56] <elFidel> Daghdha: yes - why shouldnt it?
[12:57] <ramrebol_> sipior: I'm checking
[12:59] <bogdanov> hello is there anyone who use ibm t30 or t31 laptop i have problem with wlan card cant get WPA conection.
[12:59] <Daghdha> i don't understand the question
[13:00] <J_P> hi all
[13:00] <ramrebol_> sipior: I was use "Ubuntu Software Center" to install "View, edit and compile LateX documents from Vim (vim-latexsuite)". Only do that
[13:00] <J_P> anyone can help me why this new version of ubuntu does not have permission to mount remote samba point as normal user?
[13:01] <bogdanov> i have ibm t30 and wireless support just WEP but i need WPA protocol and i must flash my wireless card but dont know how http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/ :)
[13:02] <juk> bogdanov: use network manager
[13:02] <bogdanov> i use but when i want connet is just WEP not WPA :)
[13:03] <juk> bogdanov: there's options, when you setup new connection
[13:03] <wildc4rd> how do I upgrade to 10.10? I can't see it in the updates list
[13:03] <Daghdha> elFidel: I don't see it in the packet list