[08:18] <DFP> Is this the Bazaar channel? Looks desolate.
[08:21] <Peng> This is the closest thing Bazaar has to a channel.
[08:21] <Peng> (Breezy has a channel, though.)
[08:31] <DFP> Do you use Bazaar?
[08:33] <DFP> The consensus seems to be that Bazaar is unused, or at least underused. Although there are some daily downloads on the site.
[08:36] <jelmer> I think most people who were still using bazaar have migrated to breezy at this point
[08:38] <DFP> Breezy doesn't have a GUI plugin though, right?
[08:38] <DFP> Seeing how nice Bazaar GUI is, I have hard time imagining people would give that up for terminal commands.
[08:39] <Peng> I use bzr and brz depending on OS version. :D
[08:39] <DFP> Do you use any kind of GUI, or just the terminal commands?
[08:41] <DFP> I would be surprised to learn that I'm in the minority for using graphic interface.
[08:46] <pabs3> DFP: there is qbrz in Debian https://launchpad.net/qbrz
[08:48] <DFP> Oh! Nice. Not sure how I missed that one. Thank you, pabs3.
[08:48] <DFP> Now I have a faint hope someone forked Bazaar Explorer.
[08:49] <jelmer> I'm pretty sure there isn't a fork of breezy-explorer yet
[08:50] <jelmer> qbrz is also a one-person project at the moment
[08:54] <DFP> I guess I could look into forking it myself later. In the meantime, I'll stick to my hacky Bazaar installation due to GUI.
[08:56] <DFP> Thank you for the information. I wasn't following Bazaar and Breezy developments at all. Was surprised to discover that there is no easy way to get Bazaar Explorer working on Linux. On Windows, I think, it was all installed via one automagical installer.
[08:58] <pabs3> so the bzr guis were just explorer and qbzr?
[08:59] <pabs3> bzr-explorer used to be in distros, got removed due to bzr dying due to Python 2 dying
[09:01] <jelmer> There was bzr-gtk as well, but that hasn't been ported to breezy
[09:04] <pabs3> that was removed from Debian in 2013, FTBFS
[09:07] <DFP> Explorer depends on qbzr.


[08:01] <praisethemoon> good day o/
[09:31] <elacheche> Morning!
[09:32] <elacheche> praisethemoon: My 1st gentoo installation wokrs well :D
[09:33] <praisethemoon> elacheche, good day :D
[09:33] <praisethemoon> that's good news :)
[09:35] <elacheche> :)à
[09:42] <praisethemoon> elacheche, what desktop env?
[10:41] <elacheche> https://twitter.com/elacheche/status/796301447726067712 :D
[13:00] <praisethemoon> elacheche, you're here?
[13:01] <praisethemoon> I would like to install kubuntu on my workstation; but the installer does not propose an automatic partitioning, i have to manually setup partitions etc
[13:01] <praisethemoon> and I fear to mess with my windows partition :(
[13:01] <elacheche> You have Win10?
[13:01] <praisethemoon> Yeah
[13:02] <praisethemoon> want to dual boot kubuntu/win10
[13:03] <praisethemoon> i can open the installer from live cd and we can exchange info if you have some free time ^^
[13:03] <elacheche> Can you start whatever partiton manager you have and send me a screenshot?
[13:03] <elacheche> Yep! That's it!
[13:03] <elacheche> praisethemoon:
[13:03] <elacheche> Befoe you go
[13:03] <elacheche> Check 2 things please
[13:04]  * praisethemoon is listening
[13:04] <elacheche> Do you have a EFI based hardware? Is it enabled? Or you use legacy feature?
[13:04] <elacheche> If EFI is enabled.. Make sure to use a EFI based installer.. Or you'll have issues
[13:04] <praisethemoon> okay, how can I find out?
[13:05] <praisethemoon> I have a dell laptop which as ubuntu sticker on it XD
[13:05] <praisethemoon> looks a bit old to me (2-3 years)
[13:05] <praisethemoon> which has*
[13:07] <elacheche> While rebooting enter the "BIOS"/EFI options and check if EFI is enable.. Do you have a sysadmin around?
[13:07] <praisethemoon> Yeah, but he's always busy xD
[13:08] <praisethemoon> what can I ask him?
[13:09] <elacheche> If you couldn't findout from the Setup manager (F2) if EFI is enabled or not, ask him how to know that :)
[14:43] <elacheche> nizarus: Hello :)
[14:43] <elacheche> nizarus: egrep -c '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[14:43] <elacheche> donne quoi sur ton netbook?
[14:50] <nizarus> 4 sur le PC de bureau :p
[14:51] <praisethemoon> 4 core CPU?
[14:51] <elacheche> :D
[14:51] <nizarus> et 2 sur le notebook :)
[14:52] <elacheche> Je veux voir si l'atom dans les netbook support la virtualisation hardware ou pas
[14:52] <elacheche> Parfait x) :D Dès que c'est pas  0 alors c'est  bon x)
[14:54] <nizarus> j'ai un asus x200m
[14:56] <nizarus> le modèle exacte http://www.amazon.in/Asus-X200MA-KX645D-Intel-Celeron-Screen/dp/B01C2X1E0W
[14:57] <elacheche> CPU N2840
[14:58] <praisethemoon> gonna get an IBM thinkpad
[14:58] <praisethemoon> next salary ...
[14:58] <praisethemoon> :(
[14:59] <elacheche> :)
[15:46] <Naeil> praisethemoon, I have thinkpad T430 I recommend it especially with linux dsitro :D
[15:47] <elacheche> The if you'll be looking for a Thin version you can go for the X series
[15:47] <elacheche> T are good too..
[15:53] <elacheche> Check this http://i.imgur.com/97eg2dw.png
[15:58] <praisethemoon> elacheche, is that safe for work? :P
[15:59] <praisethemoon> Naeil, how much did that cost you? /D
[16:01] <Naeil> 700 TND :D from my friend
[16:02] <praisethemoon> i7?
[16:02] <Naeil> i5 vpro
[16:02] <elacheche> That was w good deal Naeil
[16:02] <praisethemoon> indeed :(
[16:03] <Naeil> yep :D
[16:03] <Naeil> btw, I told him for its price, he used this PC for 15 days as much I remember
[16:03] <elacheche> praisethemoon: I don't run NSFW stuff ;)
[16:03] <Naeil> But, he really wanna sell it with 700 tnd..
[16:04] <praisethemoon> elacheche, what does means :3
[16:04] <praisethemoon> O:)
[16:04] <praisethemoon> Naeil, you wanna sell it too? XD
[16:04] <Naeil> hahaha :D indeed no :p
[16:05] <elacheche> praisethemoon: I don't run Not Safe Fpr Work stuff ;)
[16:06] <praisethemoon> oh alright xD
[16:06] <praisethemoon> I know
[16:06] <pavlushka> xD
[16:06] <praisethemoon> pavlushka, GUESS WHO  .. uhhm
[16:06]  * praisethemoon has left
[16:06]  * praisethemoon has came back
[16:06] <praisethemoon> pavlushka, GUESS WHO'S BACK
[16:07] <pavlushka> wow, rofl , hats off to you praisethemoon
[16:07] <praisethemoon> \o/
[16:08]  * pavlushka wonder how praisethemoon left without leaving \:o/
[16:08]  * praisethemoon has the force
[16:08] <pavlushka> hey Naeil , me got a bot
[16:09] <pavlushka> rofl @ praisethemoon
[16:09] <pavlushka> u-la-la: meet Naeil :)
[16:09] <u-la-la> pavlushka: Huh?
[16:11]  * pavlushka @ubuntu/member/pavlushka has quit
[16:11] <Naeil> aw it is ur bot! :D
[16:11] <Naeil> hello u-la-la :D
[16:12] <Naeil> brb
[16:12] <pavlushka> Naeil: you have to start the msg with u-la-la every time like "u-la-la do it", u-la-la do that
[16:13]  * pavlushka (~pavlushka@ubuntu/member/pavlushka) has joined
[16:14]  * pavlushka on dinner break
[16:24] <Naeil> ubuntulog, kick me out :D
[16:24] <Naeil> oups
[16:26] <praisethemoon> ubuntulog, say hi
[16:26] <praisethemoon> ubuntulog, kick Naeil
[16:26] <praisethemoon> ubuntulog, do something
[16:26] <praisethemoon> ..
[16:27] <Naeil> hahaha praisethemoon :D ubuntulog do a lot of things, most important one that it logs everything here :D
[16:28] <praisethemoon> Naeil, no .. that can't be true ..
[16:28] <praisethemoon> ubuntulog, is that true?
[16:28] <Naeil> hahaha :D
[16:32] <praisethemoon> Naeil, did you vote for trump of hilary? :D
[16:33] <Naeil> haha, I just realized that now xD
[16:39] <praisethemoon> omg xD
[18:55] <praisethemoon> elacheche, o/ i said hi to ismael from your part :D
[18:56] <elacheche> Thanks x)
[18:58] <praisethemoon> you're welcome :D
[19:00] <praisethemoon> he told me about his journeys with ubuntu-tn and other communities
[20:04] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, :D
[20:04] <praisethemoon> welcome <3
[20:09] <AcidNinjaFWHR> Hello
[20:11] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, How is it going?
[20:36] <AcidNinjaFWHR> Okay I guess. A lot of work.
[20:36] <AcidNinjaFWHR> And you praisethemoon ?
[20:39] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, i caught cold :(
[20:40] <praisethemoon> i'm in bed coding my small library
[20:40] <praisethemoon> I see you're in #lua too
[20:40] <praisethemoon> people there are so mean
[20:40] <praisethemoon> i'm not that active, channel does not have any moderator ..
[20:41] <AcidNinjaFWHR> okay so I guess when you need some help you don't ask there at first, if there are mean... :/
[20:44] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, well i'm pretty good in lua :) +  i can ask in #love on OFTC server :D
[20:45] <praisethemoon> elacheche, you're here?
[20:48] <AcidNinjaFWHR> nice praisethemoon
[20:48] <praisethemoon> AcidNinjaFWHR, so how is fwhost going? :D
[20:48] <AcidNinjaFWHR> is there a standard way to count item numbers in an array, which excludes NUL values?
[20:53] <praisethemoon> AFAIK #tab returns size of items til it hits nil
[20:53] <praisethemoon> so there is no standard way :/
[21:54] <elacheche> o/
[21:54] <elacheche> Hello AcidNinjaFWHR :)
[22:02] <AcidNinjaFWHR> Hi elacheche
[22:06] <elacheche> Good to see you here again :)


[14:34] <minimal> just noticed that PR #4119 (already merged) appears to have accidentally reverted the renaming of "ca-certs" -> "ca_certs" in cloud.cfg.tmpl
[14:42] <meena> ah shite
[14:42] <meena> that's on me, eh?
[14:43] <meena> @minimal really sorry that I botched that rebase / conflict resolution
[14:43] <minimal> it's easy to miss, don't worry about it, it's not a major issue
[14:44] <meena> @holmanb when can we tackle https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/2127 ? (I'd love to get paid this year, and this is one those things that looks like a major milestone ;)
[14:44] <minimal> just noticed it by chance when scanning your PR to see if it had any impact on Alpine (didn't see anything but haven't tested yet)
[14:45] <meena> if i get paid, i can afford cheap hardware to continue my quest of refactoring infiniband ?
[15:57] <ZxSs> hey evereyone
[15:57] <ZxSs> i am kinda new at this point, sorry
[15:57] <ZxSs> can someone explain me a few things?
[15:57] <ZxSs> I have a stand with a VmWare Virtual Cloud Director and Terraform VCD provider. I'd like to add my public keys to vm. Where are these stored on deployed vm?
[16:13] <minimal> ZxSs: I assume you're referring to SSH keys
[16:13] <minimal> nothing cloud-init specific, the public keys are stored as usual in the relevant user's authorized_keys file
[16:14] <minimal> if you mean how do they get there, you'd provide them as part of user-data when you create the VM
[17:02] <holmanb> meena: I should circle back to that one. I got a report from someone side channel that it actually broke something on freebsd that they were testing, and haven't had time to circle back and repro.
[17:03] <meena> maybe that's because the FreeBSD side wasn't implemented yet?
[18:44] <holmanb> meena: possibly, however the effect of that PR is that it should take currently incorrect calls which would cause stacktraces and replace them with no-ops, so I would expect previously failing code to now pass
[18:48] <holmanb> meena: however I guess that throwing an exception may have previously caused init-local to end early (I would need to check), which might be the right thing to do if the command isn't implemented.
[19:26] <meena> holmanb: which clouds use EphemeralNet? I know Hetzner and DO do, but DO is no longer used
[21:26] <holmanb> meena: I'd have to check
[21:27] <holmanb> meena: merged pr/2127
[21:37] <minimal> meena: from my notes: Azure, AWS, GCE, Hetzner, NWCS, Openstack, Oracle, Scaleway, UpCloud, Vultr