[03:35] <d35iboy> How can I remove grub and install lilo ?
[03:35] <balazs00> hi! i need help about energy saving! (turn off lcd, when i close the lid) [ubuntu 9.10]
[03:35] <tawd> jonhnnyboy that's the 32 bit alternate installer.  i don't know much about encrypt file system
[03:35] <BitBucket> d35iboy: hahahha
[03:35] <Jonhnnyboy> d35iboy: supergrub iso
[03:35] <DaZ_> angelogiaub: befriend with ubuntu-restricted-extras and medibuntu repository.
[03:36] <d35iboy> I like lilo than grub :D
[03:36] <Jonhnnyboy> d35iboy: why?
[03:36] <d35iboy> grub messed up my windows boot.ini
[03:37] <Joeseph> When I start Rosegarden, (A KDE app) I get the same error as this guy on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rosegarden/+bug/379249 .  I can run as gksu, but I don't really want to do that.  Any ideas?
[03:37] <BitBucket> d35iboy: no, boot.ini is a peice of junk and hardcodes the parittion location, grub doesnt have access to mess up your boot.ini
[03:37] <scott_ino2> hello, i seem to be having a problem accessing my NAS. I can ssh into it, but I'd like to be able to have a mounted network share on my desktop, can anyone help with this
[03:37] <d35iboy> but windows doent even show up in boot screen ?
[03:38] <BitBucket> what did you do?
[03:38] <joshua___> Normally I'd just write lilo on top of grub but apt-get upgrade doesn't like that
[03:38] <DaZ_> Joeseph: sudo chown `whoami` -R ~/.kde
[03:38] <balazs00> d35iboy: use an win install cd in recovery mode and run fixboot X:      [X=drivename]
[03:39] <angelogiaub> ok I have  ubuntu-restricted-extras installed and medibuntu repository checked
[03:39] <joshua___> ah I'll just go watch Macgyver
[03:39] <d35iboy> balazs08: I will try it
[03:39] <Joeseph> DaZ_: So for some reason I don't own my .kde folder...  alright.  is the -R just recursive?
[03:39] <Hilikus> how can i know if my cpu fan supports different speeds?
[03:39] <FlightB> where can i getr an older release of ubuntu?
[03:39] <balazs00> d35iboy: will works :) did it some hours before.
[03:40] <DaZ_> Joeseph: if you run something using sudo it may change ownerships
[03:40] <DaZ_> and R means recursive [;
[03:40] <d35iboy> also guys I have messed up with encryption keys :( in ubuntu..I had encrypted a folder in ubuntu 8.10..for some reason I installed 9.10 ( instead of upgrading) and those files wont open here
[03:40] <burzki> FlightB, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[03:41] <karmst> Hey... With the new updates for the kernel the Nvidia 190 driver works perfectly
[03:41] <d35iboy> nick penguins
[03:41] <karmst> ;)
[03:41] <Joeseph> DaZ_: Thanks.  Seemed to work.
[03:41] <m3ga> i'm looking at a laptop with SiS graphics. whats a good test to see if ubuntu runs well on it?
[03:41] <d35iboy> NICK penguin
[03:41] <karmst> great job Karmic team
[03:41] <karmst> ;)
[03:41] <balazs00> anybody about power-saving?!?! how should i set turn off lcd when i close the lid?
[03:41] <DaZ_> karmst: 195 works perfectly too.
[03:42] <karmst> is 195 beta?
[03:42] <DaZ_> it is
[03:42] <karmst> ah I'll wait for it to go gold
[03:43] <Losha> m3ga: boot the live cd on it. Or much easier, google the model and see if people say it runs ubuntu well....
[03:43] <lin00b> how can I open a folder which was encrypted on an other ubuntu system ?
[03:43] <banished> Hi, whenever I start gnome, my sound volume gets reset to zero - but not only that, also are the volume settings I did for the single channels in alsamixer discardet - what can I do abou that?
[03:44] <rjb> which one is the right place to install programs manually?
[03:44] <j-3-r-g_> yo
[03:44] <karmst> well I have this Sams ubuntu 2010 unleashed book so I'm going to go to bed and read a little night everyone
[03:45] <harvey> rjb: /opt/program_name
[03:45] <j-3-r-g_> wats up everyone
[03:45] <banished> ~/program files if you don't want do be root for that ;-P
[03:46] <rjb> harvey why do i need privileges to copy to /opt?
[03:46] <MrPockets> So i'm running Ubuntu, with Ubuntu in a VM,
[03:46] <MrPockets> using virtualbox,  right
[03:47] <m3ga> Losha: thanks, but anything I should try from the live cd to test 3D performance?
[03:47] <faileas> and?
[03:47] <MrPockets> trying to get the virtual machine, to use an IP on the "real" production network
[03:47] <MrPockets> currently, it's set up as "nat"  which is working, but I can't get to the VM at all
[03:48] <m3ga> Losha: thanks, but anything I should try from the live cd to test 3D performance?
[03:48] <harvey> rjb: because it is not your home directory? ;) if you want to install some 3rd party software system wide /opt/ is the right place. Otherwise ~/ as banished suggested
[03:48] <angelogiaub> Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in.
[03:48] <rjb> thank you for answer i'll follow your advice
[03:49] <j-3-r-g_> MrPockets what VM software ur using and wat VM OS u installed
[03:49] <j-3-r-g_> ?
[03:49] <Losha> m3ga: sorry, I'm not the right person to advise you. I dunno anything about 3d except the movie avatar....
[03:50] <Hammerjak> m3ga: glxgears or glxinfo?
[03:50] <MrPockets> j-3-r-g_, Virtualbox
[03:50] <MrPockets> ubuntu in ubuntu   9.10 both
[03:50] <Losha> MrPockets: usually I used bridged mode and give it a unique address on the same network as the host....
[03:50] <usser> MrPockets, you need to have bridged network
[03:50] <m3ga> i know about glcinfo, but don't know what to look fo in its output. i'll try glvgears
[03:50] <Hammerjak> glxinfo |grep -i direct
[03:50] <MrPockets> ah. Because it's bridging the virtual adapter to my "real" nic?
[03:51] <j-3-r-g_> yup
[03:51] <Hammerjak> m3ga: 'direct rendering' is 3d support
[03:51] <usser> MrPockets, yep
[03:51] <MrPockets> yeah, that totally makes sense
[03:51] <j-3-r-g_> and also u shud check which card u will use
[03:51] <m3ga> Hammerjak: thanks
[03:51] <Hammerjak> np
[03:51] <j-3-r-g_> I think Virtual Box defaults it to your LAN
[03:51] <Syndri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1374520
[03:52] <j-3-r-g_> if you want it to go to your wireless then you'll have to adjust that in the preferences
[03:53] <Losha> Syndri: no commercials please...
[03:53] <j-3-r-g_> hey anyone by chance has a capture file form a wifi handshake
[03:53] <j-3-r-g_> with the correct password ....I want to test a rainbow table that I have
[03:54] <j-3-r-g_> preferable form a linksys router
[03:54] <powertool08> Does anyone here have a lamp server running on their personal network? Other than blogging, what do you use it for? I want to try it out but can't think of what to put in the database.
[03:55] <LincKraker> question. has anyone gotten ubuntu installed on an abit ip-35e motherboard?
[03:55] <rexha> where to get resources to be certificated in linux (lspi)
[03:57] <j-3-r-g_> rexhba: If i'm not correct you can check out red hats home page i think they offer test you can take to be certified in RHLE
[03:57] <Hammerjak> i agree with j-3-r-g_, you can get certified for specific linux distros, but not linux in general
[03:57] <j-3-r-g_> I stumble upon it one day however ...that was by chance
[03:57] <powertool08> rexha: Could have something useful: http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials
[03:58] <Hammerjak> unless someone proves me wrong of course :)
[03:58] <powertool08> Hammerjak: Check out the link for your proof :)
[03:58] <Hammerjak> proven wrong so quickly!
[03:58] <rexha> powertool08 thank you
[03:58] <j-3-r-g_> lol
[03:59] <j-3-r-g_> damn
[03:59] <j-3-r-g_> me too
[03:59] <j-3-r-g_> I was thinking it was distro specific
[03:59] <snap-> hi, how can i run programs from within a restricted bash shell?
[04:00] <Hammerjak> what do you mean snap?
[04:00] <ilumi> ./xxxxx to execute
[04:00] <faileas> powertool08: i have a personal wiki. I also used to use it as a media server with a web front end at one point
[04:01] <snap-> when in the -rbash shell, you can't specify '/' in command names
[04:01] <j-3-r-g_> snap why your not on your own box
[04:01] <powertool08> faileas: Media server? So you could sort/categorize/search your media through a webpage?
[04:01] <Hammerjak> snap-: even when you put the '.' before the '/' ?
[04:01] <snap-> yeah
[04:02] <greezmunkey> anyone know of a good ip subnet calculator (pref gui) for linux?
[04:02] <powertool08> faileas: What kind of info do you put on your wiki?
[04:03] <snap-> there are tricks for using vi or sendmail to break out of restricted shells
[04:03] <snap-> but i don't know how to even run them
[04:03] <snap-> without being able to use the /
[04:04] <j-3-r-g_> greezmunkey - <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> and there is another thats less known that default on XP
[04:04] <j-3-r-g_> if im not mistaken
[04:04] <j-3-r-g_> like what Ricky Bobby said: "Learn to work the google machine"
[04:05] <j-3-r-g_> lol
[04:05] <j-3-r-g_> oh yea and those are for ipv4
[04:05] <greezmunkey> j-3-r-g_: I sasid subnet Calculator, I can do it on paper but it is tedious...
[04:06] <Lady_Enigma> what linux kernel is used in 8.04.3, please?
[04:06] <j-3-r-g_> oh my bad
[04:06] <greezmunkey> j-3-r-g_np :)
[04:06] <snap-> how can i start a shell, other than running /bin/sh?
[04:06] <j-3-r-g_> anyone has a linux wifi capture file from a 4 way handshake
[04:07] <Lady_Enigma> iflema: get your wireless working?
[04:07] <j-3-r-g_> not linux i meant linksys
[04:07] <jrib> snap-: why?
[04:07] <snap-> trying to start an unrestricted shell from rbash
[04:08] <j-3-r-g_> Lady_Enigma: google "default kernel header for Ubuntu 8.04"
[04:08] <iflema> its not wireless
[04:08] <ms308680> hello room
[04:08] <j-3-r-g_> hope that helps
[04:09] <Lady_Enigma> thank you!
[04:09] <j-3-r-g_> np
[04:09] <jrib> snap-: why do you want to do this?
[04:10] <ms308680> would there be anyone here that has experience setting up sogo open source groupware?
[04:10] <jrib> ms308680: it's best to just ask your question
[04:10] <snap-> jrib: who likes being restricted?
[04:10] <snap-> =p
[04:11] <ms308680> Is there any detailed documentation that anyone knows of for setting up sogo?
[04:11] <jrib> snap-: I just don't see a use-case, if you don't want to be in rbash, don't run rbash
[04:11] <j-3-r-g_> snap - do you have physical access to the box?
[04:11] <snap-> no physical access
[04:11] <snap-> ssh
[04:11] <snap-> being in rbash wasn't my decision
[04:11] <jrib> snap-: then speak to the person whose decision it was
[04:11] <snap-> not possible
[04:12] <jrib> rbash isn't all that restricting anyway last time I checked
[04:12] <adamonline45> Hello!  I'm installing 9.10 server, and the install is stopping at a screen titled "[!] Ubuntu installer main menu" and the option "Install GRUB boot loader on a hard disk" is highlighted... When I select it, it just goes back to the same thing.  Last attempt I tried to Continue without boot loader, but then it wouldn't boot.  I've tried both amd64 AND the alternate 64 bit... Any ideas?
[04:13] <MrPockets> okay
[04:13] <MrPockets> wtf
[04:13] <MrPockets> man
[04:13] <MrPockets> MAN!
[04:13] <FloodBot3> MrPockets: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <jrib> MrPockets: stop please
[04:13] <MrPockets> /etc/motd keeps revertin
[04:13] <nonexks> if i run live cd on my laptop will that let me know if all the drivers are avalible ?
[04:13] <MrPockets> edited /etc/default/rcS  and added EDITMOTD=no
[04:14] <iflema> at least im not braodcasting status messages
[04:14] <Hammerjak> nonexks: what do you mean?
[04:15] <snap-> so, back to my question. does anyone know of ways to spawn a new shell other than running /bin/sh
[04:15] <brummbaer> snap: /bin/bash? :P
[04:15] <balazs00> hi! i need help about energy saving! (turn off lcd, when i close the lid) [ubuntu 9.10]
[04:15] <nonexks> Hammerjak: well i have a ton of drivers needed to run all the hardware on this laptop and i dont know if linux will work on it
[04:15] <jrib> brummbaer: well it would have to be "bash"
[04:16] <lakota> man this is so annoying! I have tried more than 10 of my DVD movies even after installing ubuntu restricted extras and ogle player and I always get an error about libdvdcss and the ogle player is suppose to have that. none of my dvd players can play a dvd. what is the point of creating dvd player software that cant play a dvd?
[04:16] <Hammerjak> nonexks: ah, yeah, if the live cd works fine, the install will use the same drivers
[04:16] <powertool08> snap-: If you aren't locked out, maybe you could set a cronjob?
[04:16] <jrib> !dvd | lakota
[04:16] <jrib> lakota: dvdcss is not the same as ogle
[04:16] <nonexks> Hammerjak: so how would i make a list of everthing i will need ?
[04:17] <Hammerjak> nonexks: whatever drivers the live cd decides to use should be the same that the installed version will use
[04:17] <brummbaer> balazs00: check power management section, option to set what happens when closing screen
[04:17] <Hammerjak> you won't have to choose anything
[04:17] <lakota> but why cant a DVD player software play a dvd?
[04:17] <brummbaer> balazs00: for in depth power saving config, check the cpu-freq gnome-applet, and the app called powertop
[04:18] <mdeonte> hi
[04:18] <jrib> lakota: it can.  However, your dvd's are encumbered with drm.  To view them you have to install dvdcss.  Just follow ubottu's link
[04:18] <kinja-sheep> lakota: "Legal Warning: Check with your local laws to make sure usage of libdvdcss2 would be legal in your area. "
[04:18] <powertool08> snap-: Symlink/alias bash to rbash and start rbash?
[04:18] <nonexks> so a nother question ... i have used ubuntu but its not quite as graphicly pleasing ... what could i use to change this
[04:19] <lakota> k
[04:19] <Hammerjak> nonexks: you can use a less graphically-intensive window manager like xfce
[04:19] <Hammerjak> nonexks: that is, instal Xubuntu rather than plain Ubuntu
[04:19] <Hammerjak> or did i misinterpret that... do you want *more* pleasing graphics?
[04:19] <brummbaer> nonexks: more eyecandy > compiz, less eyecandy > XFCE / Openbox, etc.
[04:20] <nonexks> compiz
[04:20] <nonexks> nice
[04:20] <nonexks> i want more
[04:20] <Hammerjak> ah, yeah, compiz
[04:20] <nonexks> very powerfull pc's ... one media box and one is media/ work
[04:20] <Hammerjak> do you have ubuntu already installed?
[04:20] <Flare-Laptop> !who | Hammerjak
[04:21] <Hilikus> is it possible to configure amarok to intercept key presses before X? i want to have a single key that opens amarok if amarok is closed but plays/pauses if it is open. i configured ubuntu to open amarok with that key and configured amarok to use that key for play/pause but amarok doesn't take it
[04:21] <nonexks> i have ubuntu on a few systems but the os of the two im going to change are vista and xp 64bit
[04:21] <Hilikus> so i guess its because gdm or X or whoever is intercepting it befire it gets to amarok
[04:21] <Flare-Laptop> Hilikus: That's because amarok is for KDE/Kubuntu
[04:21] <Maletor_> I have a question kind of off topic but I think it's relatively simple. I have a Vizio. What's the best way to manage the audio? I want to have my HTPC plug in via HDMI then have the TV output optical to my receiver? Can TVs do that?
[04:21] <Hilikus> Flare-Laptop: so?
[04:21] <Hammerjak> nonexks: once ubuntu is installed, go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance, then 'Visual Effects' tab and choose "extra"
[04:21] <Hammerjak> nonexks: that will enable compiz
[04:22] <jtaji> Maletor: most do
[04:22] <nonexks> oh nice ... will that work on live cd
[04:22] <kinja-sheep> Flare-Laptop: It does not matter if it's for KDE.  An application is an application.
[04:22] <quintin_> no sound on new laptop, plz help plz.  audio hardware is recognized
[04:22] <Flare-Laptop> hikenboot: so it won't work. Its using a different interface with X
[04:22] <quintin_> IBM T60
[04:22] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: I've got the same laptop, and audio works fine with it.
[04:22] <Hilikus> Flare-Laptop: it does work if i dont use it as a shortcut in the system
[04:23] <brummbaer> kinja-sheep: if amarok has a cli client comparable to rhythmbox-client, you should be able to pair keys to commands with xbindkeys
[04:23] <Hammerjak> nonexks: that depends on what video driver the live cd chooses, typically you have to install Ubuntu and on the first boot it will ask if you want to use a "restricted" driver
[04:23] <JunTao1> is there an application similar to Quickbooks on linux?
[04:23] <Hammerjak> nonexks: the restricted driver will support 3d rendering
[04:23] <Hilikus> brummbaer: me?
[04:23] <kain_> hi all, i've got an external drive connected and mounted, but i don't have the rights to write, or execute, only read, how do i change this? the format is NTFS
[04:23] <brummbaer> Hilikus: bwuh?
[04:23] <nonexks> so when asked i DO want restricted driver for good graphics
[04:23] <Hammerjak> nonexks: yep :)
[04:24] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: what version are you running?  I am using whatever latest is.  no audio output
[04:24] <Flare-Laptop> JunTao1: Yup, its called gnucash
[04:24] <mimiBadger> Anyone here knows how to bring up a netrek server?
[04:24] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: I'm using Karmic
[04:24] <quintin_> JunTao1: google linux accounting software?  there are many double entry bookkeeping systems for linux.  I tried one for about 1 month and got bored
[04:25] <nonexks> Hammerjak: so i tryed to install ubuntu on this notebook a while back and it never worked ... do you know of any bios issues that would cause this
[04:25] <quintin_> but then again I play poker for a living and am not good at money handling sutffs heh :P
[04:25] <iKernel> I think quicken runs quite well under wine
[04:25] <iKernel> quintin_, you must be pretty good then
[04:25] <quintin_> quicken isn't really DEBK though.  well it is, but it hides it from you like
[04:25] <quintin_> iKernel: yes.  but you don't have to be that good to beat $1/$2 and $2/$5
[04:25] <Hammerjak> nonexks: sorry, no, there are lots of things that can go wrong with laptop drivers, can't help you there
[04:25] <brummbaer> JunTao1: a great place to check for these types of 'equivalency' questions is http://linuxalt.com , there's generally many applications for a purpose.
[04:25] <felixmori7> help
[04:25] <adamonline45> What do I need to run the live cd?  I have the alt and the amd64 versions burned, but no option for it...
[04:25] <nonexks> Hammerjak: ok thank you very much
[04:26] <novato_br> Why don't we require the manufacturers Linux drivers? We should make a list of demands.
[04:26] <quintin_> yea, there are several cool sites I've found that showcase alternative softwares.  Pretty cool sites
[04:26] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: trying doing this in the terminal: sudo modproble snd_hda_intel
[04:26] <Flare-Laptop> !ask | felipe_
[04:26] <Flare-Laptop> oops
[04:26] <Flare-Laptop> !ask | felixmori7
[04:26] <FloodBot3> Flare-Laptop: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:26]  * Flare-Laptop knows this
[04:26] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: ok.. though I'd think driver is already loaded since alsamixer shows hw
[04:26] <novato_br> unfortunately, there are so few manufacturers worried with linux drivers.
[04:26] <nonexks> well i guess its time to try the live cd again
[04:27] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: I'm not sure. But there's not hurt in trying
[04:27] <quintin_> Hey, grep auto hilites how huh?  neat
[04:27] <nonexks> oh one more question ... ubuntu or Xubuntu
[04:27] <Hammerjak> adamonline45: you have to tell your computer to boot from cd
[04:27] <Hammerjak> nonexks: ubuntu, Xubuntu is if you have a really old system
[04:27] <fishneck> hi!
[04:27] <quintin_> I have been using windoze for like almost 8 months cause it was on the pc I pulled out of storage D:
[04:27] <adamonline45> Hammerjak: Thanks, I got that far :)  I just don't see the option for it in the CD's menu...
[04:27] <Flare-Laptop> !hi | fishneck
[04:27] <burzki> novato_br, what, all three of us .. ?
[04:27] <tawd> quintin_ yep :)  gotta love bash
[04:28] <Hammerjak> adamonline45: what options do you see?
[04:28] <nonexks> so ubuntu 9.10 is the best version ?
[04:28] <fishneck> aww okay kewl
[04:28] <henryhammond>  Can anyone direct me to a good tutorial on how to set up a wireless router on ubuntu?
[04:28] <quintin_> hey it seems there is now some good auto coloring stuff with ls.  yay
[04:29] <Hammerjak> nonexks: ubuntu 9.10 is the current version, it's up to you if that's the 'best' :)
[04:29] <quintin_> How come "examples" in my home folder isn't a pretty looking link?  It's just a generic white page icon
[04:29] <adamonline45> Hammerjak: I see Install, Check Disc, Test memory, boot from first hard disk, and rescue a broken system
[04:29] <brummbaer> henryhammond: do you mean connect to a wireless network? or configure a wireless router. cuz second option is same as anything else: connect to the router through your browser.
[04:29] <nonexks> ok well im off ..thanks
[04:30] <henryhammond> brummbaer configure the network adapter, i downloaded drivers for windows and for linux, and i just cant get it to work
[04:30] <crazy2be> allright, so i set up ubuntu server. Today, i did a sudo apt-get install links, so that i could try and figure out what to do with it. Upon opening links, however, something crashed, and it started a maintenance shell. Upon rebooting, i can no longer access the internet at all, and i don't know what i should do...
[04:30] <Hammerjak> adamonline45: if you choose 'install' it should boot the live cd, you don't have to run the installer
[04:30] <brummbaer> henryhammond, do you know what type of wireless adapter it is?
[04:31] <FarmCretin> Hi, i have ubuntu server running on a dell with integrated graphics and no monitor. ive been using it through ssh for over a year, and id like to add graphical option. what can i do?
[04:31] <henryhammond> brummbaer wusb54gc ver3
[04:31] <adamonline45> Hammerjak: Nope, I've installed numerous times today and never gotten into any like cd anything... it just goes to the gui (ascii) installer...
[04:31] <henryhammond> by linksys
[04:31] <lakota> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[04:32] <lakota> none of the sites are helping
[04:32] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: Do you have fingerprint scanner working?
[04:32] <Hammerjak> adamonline45: it probably has a problem detecting your video card or something then.... i don't know
[04:32] <adamonline45> Hammerjak: hmm, k, thanks anyway...
[04:32] <paddy_melon> FarmCretin... you could install gdm and VNC in
[04:32] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Mine didn't come with it.
[04:32] <brummbaer> henryhammond: if you run ifconfig do you see the device?
[04:32] <tawd> quintin_ mine doesn't either, but it still contains all the correct contents anyways
[04:33] <ejwaxx> lakota: try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding%20the%20Repositories
[04:33] <paddy_melon> eg. sudo apt-get install gdm
[04:33] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: What is in yours?  I'm very sad about my screen.. only XGA.
[04:33] <Hammerjak> FarmCretin: you can ssh with X forwarding... ssh -X
[04:33] <Xfact> how many tests 'memtest' runs??/ It's very long and (boring) process!
[04:33] <quintin_> tawd: wat was last message re:?
[04:33] <trollboy> what's a good ubuntu app for issuing at commands to a modem? minicom is crashing for me
[04:33] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Mines awesome. Its VGA too
[04:33] <tawd> quintin_ about the examples folder not looking like a folder
[04:33] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: I can use compiz on it too :D
[04:33] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: mine is 2.0ghz c2d, 4m cache 1g ram 100g hdd 128m discrete gfx.  not sure if it has the evdo card in it or not.  paid $130 for it with no battery yesterday
[04:34] <henryhammond> brummbaer: Im not sure how i would know that (noob to linux world), but there is nothing that seems to look like it
[04:34] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: My got tea spilt on it and it still works :P
[04:34] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: xga you mean?  1024x768?  I am going to look around for a 1400x1050 monitor for mine, if I decide to keep it instead of reselling.  man it's pretty cool to have a linux laptop that suspend works on though.  I accidentally closed lid and was a bit tickled when I opened it and everything came back
[04:34] <Flare-Laptop> No sound and it overheats tho :(
[04:34] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: haha Yup
[04:35] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: there is supposed to be a membrane under keyboard tha troutes liquid out of device.  I've thought about spilling water on mine..
[04:35] <brummbaer> henryhammond: if you type ifconfig in terminal (applications > accessories > terminal), you should see either a eth1 or wlan0, something like that...
[04:35] <quintin_> tawd: oh yea :)
[04:35] <Flare-Laptop> :O really?
[04:35] <Flare-Laptop> I didn't know that
[04:35] <lakota> ejwaxx,  hey that may have worked! soon as it was done my updates poped up and is updating mplayer and lib files. lets hope this fixed it
[04:35] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Even if it gets on the heatsink?
[04:35] <quintin_> yea.  read it when I was googling for info and came across reviews.  also option for 2nd minipci slot is an over the air broadband card.  haven't looked to see if mine has one in it
[04:36] <henryhammond> brummbaer i see Link encap:Ethernet and before that i see eth0
[04:36] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: well the membrane is under the keyboard, so it shouldn't get that far in theory I guess.  I haven't taken it apart to see how it all looks
[04:36] <FarmCretin> Hammerjak: the vnc client would be windows
[04:36] <y6i> What does this mean, anyone?:
[04:36] <y6i> The file /blah/blah/ has been modified since reading it.
[04:36] <y6i> If you save it, all the external changes could be lost. Save it anyway?
[04:36] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Well I've got the hardware parts list pdf if you wnat it
[04:36] <Flare-Laptop> want*
[04:37] <Hammerjak> FarmCretin: that's all well and good if you're ssh'ing from a windows box, I didn't know :)
[04:37] <Flare-Laptop> y6i: Means that the file has been changed while you were reading it
[04:37] <quintin_> y6i: another program or person modified that file while it was in your editor's buffer
[04:37] <FarmCretin> i know, i appreciated the help all the same
[04:37] <FFForever> Whats the difference from Ubuntu One and DropBox?, besides Ubuntu One shipping by default
[04:37] <brummbaer> henryhammond: what if you try 'lspci | grep -e Linksys' ?
[04:38] <Flare-Laptop> FFForever: I've got both, and the only difference is the bandwidth usage
[04:38] <dsnyders> I want to build a new machine, but all the new motherboard, chipset, and cpu options are bewildering.  Anybody got a link to a good website?
[04:38] <quintin_> ok, I turned on "beep" in alsamixer, and now I have sound!!
[04:38] <brummbaer> henryhammond: online forums are saying that version three requires custom compilation and module loading, but i'm still looking for details, k?
[04:38] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: :O WOOT
[04:38] <acovrig> how can I do (open new tab in firefox and open "url") via ssh?
[04:38] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: So do your volume buttons work?  mine do.. but it seems... the volume buttons affect IBM hardware, and when you push them it's not a signal to OS?
[04:38] <FFForever> Flannel, like wise, but db has multi os so its better imo, whats your opinion on them?
[04:39] <quintin_> I love me some thinklights
[04:39] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Yup, but like my sound is separate from the OS :(
[04:39] <FFForever> Is there selective file sync in one?
[04:39] <henryhammond> brummbaer okay, i tried looking, and i found some that said use ndsiwrapper, some that said to download something from ralink and change it, but i could never find the data to change, ive been trying to two days
[04:39] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: I'm so glad I found this deal... cause I was about to drop $400 on a 17" dell
[04:39] <Hammerjak> dsnyders:  tomshardware.com, newegg.com ?
[04:39] <lakota> now totem movie player is frozen and still no movie :(
[04:39] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: haha Ubuntu ftw!
[04:40] <Flare-Laptop> FFForever: I like Ubuntu one better because I love Ubuntu :P
[04:40] <switch10> acovrig: just use the "lynx" terminal browser
[04:40] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: ah yea ok you get what I'm saying then.  other laptops the volume buttons have been linked to OS sound.  Wonder if there is anything to make that happen
[04:40] <quintin_> I'm so happy to be back in linux instead of windoze :P
[04:40] <tawd> how do people chat in the terminal?
[04:40] <Aquaraptor> irssi
[04:40] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Well it used to do that in 9.04 but not in Karmic
[04:40] <quintin_> tawd: a terminal irc client ... I am using irssi.
[04:40] <brummbaer> henryhammond: i totally sympathize, i spent several days working on cobbling together a decent conexant driver for karmic w/o having to pay linuxant for the unlocked driver. :)
[04:40] <acovrig> switch10, the user is running firefox on display=:0.0, can I use ssh to open a new tab & open a url?
[04:40] <tawd> quintin_ thanks :)
[04:41] <acovrig> onto display 0.0
[04:41] <Quan-Time> i have a RS232 -> USB converter, how can i check its installed properly ? i THINK its  FTDI chipset.. can it be listed in my usb devices ? ideas ?
[04:41] <switch10> acovrig: i dont know how to do it
[04:41] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: did you upgrade, or clean install?  back in the dark ages, like version 6 and such, I always had to do clean intall... upgrades left too much cruft
[04:41] <Flare-Laptop> acovrig: you could just vnc to the machine
[04:41] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Upgrade
[04:41] <acovrig> like "firefox --display=:0.0 --url="http://www.google.com""
[04:41] <quintin_> I'm sad this laptop doesn't feel much "faster" than other machines.  meh.
[04:42] <acovrig> Flare-Laptop, how do I setup vnc to not give a notifycation?
[04:42] <henryhammond> brummbaer: I entered that command, and nothing showed up, but i got no erroor
[04:42] <Flare-Laptop> acovrig: install x11vnc :p
[04:42] <acovrig> apt-get x11vnc?
[04:42] <kain_> hi all, what is the syntax for mount a ntfs partition with permissions read-write-execute to put in the fstab?
[04:42] <y6i> is there ANY way at all, in the world, possibly, to get your root password from a box you cant log into?
[04:42] <Flare-Laptop> acovrig: yup
[04:43] <Flare-Laptop> y6i: no
[04:43] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: woot!  installed fprint_demo and I can scan fingerprints.  doesn't show images though =(
[04:43] <Hammerjak> kain_: you can install ntfs-config and you'll have a nice simple gui that does it for you :)
[04:43] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: Nice
[04:43] <Xfact> well, we've decided to buy a dell alienware Arena 51 ALX gaming PC which have 12 GB ram, 3.86 GHz intel i7 processor, 2 GB ATi GPU and all others..Which ubuntu version is capable and will run stable in this hardware...? Suggest please......
[04:43] <Xfact> It's should also run games nicely....
[04:43] <kain_> Hammerjak, : will this erase the lines i manually put in the fstab?
[04:43] <y6i> from someone who's not Flare-Laptop
[04:43] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: My sound died when the tea got in it. But the headphone jack still works :)
[04:43] <Quan-Time> Xfact: umm. 9.10 karmic x64 ?
[04:43] <Hammerjak> no, but if you want to hand-edit fstab i'll paste my ntfs line for you
[04:43] <blakkheim> Xfact: avoid ati if you want to use linux
[04:44] <acovrig> then de-check the vnc option in the Remote Control (something like that) in the GUI?
[04:44] <Flare-Laptop> >.>
[04:44] <adamonline45> so, an x86-64 would use the amd64 install, no?
[04:44] <Quan-Time> yer. ati will work, but cause issues.
[04:44] <Xfact> blakkheim: but it only serving ATI graphic cards...:(
[04:44] <Hammerjak> kain_: /dev/<YOUR DRIVE> /media/Windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[04:44] <Quan-Time> adamonline45: it covers x86 archatecture, 64bit
[04:44] <switch10> Xfact: you have a gaming PC running Linux?
[04:44] <brummbaer> henryhammond: that could mean that it's not seeing it at all or not seeing it as Linksys; if you search through the output from 'lspci', is there anything that looks like it? you may also try unplugging it then plugging it back in, then checking dmesg
[04:44] <quintin_> Flare-Laptop: I noticed during install this version asks out of box if you would lik eyour homedir encrypted. pretty cool.  esp. since when I got this laptop it had a file on it called "Passwords.docx".  guess what contents were :P
[04:45] <Xfact> Quan-Time:  64 bit doesn't support many apps and some games :(
[04:45] <y6i> is there ANY way at all, in the world, possibly, to get your root password from a box you cant log into?
[04:45] <adamonline45> Quan-Time: That's what I thought... just trying to eliminate potential issues here... thanks :)
[04:45] <Xfact> switch10: no, never before....
[04:45] <rudra> how to create desktop shortcut from application menu
[04:45] <Flare-Laptop> quintin_: haha wow
[04:45] <kain_> Hammerjak : is this line added manually without installation of ntfs-config?
[04:45] <freefreef> hey everyone
[04:45] <Hammerjak> kain_: yes.
[04:45] <nightsjammies> Hey who is good with the open office spreadsheet program?
[04:45] <powertool08> y6i: If you have physical access to it, then yes, tons of ways.
[04:45] <nightsjammies> or is there a forum for that?
[04:45] <Quan-Time> y6i: i think you can reset it with a liveCD.. but honestly not sure. would have to investigate that
[04:45] <kain_> Hammerjak : ok i'll try thanks
[04:45] <nightsjammies> room, I mean
[04:46] <FFForever> I disabled the notification application... how can i get my pidgin menu bar icon back??
[04:46] <Hammerjak> kain_: add that line rather than installing ntfs-config... i wasn't sure how confident you were to hand-edit fstab :)
[04:46] <y6i> powertool08: how?
[04:46] <tritium> y6i: are you sure you unlocked the root account on that machine, or are you referring to your user account?
[04:46] <switch10> Xfact: hate to say it but if its a gaming machine with those specs you would be better off running windows to play your games.  Dual boot with Ubuntu
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[04:46] <FloodBot3> freefreef: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <henryhammond> brummbaer: My ethernet port shows up, event though its not connected to web, but my wereless doesnt seem to show up in the list of USB controllers
[04:46] <Quan-Time> Xfact: i game.. i dualboot nix and win7.. some games work on ubuntu x64 (which i run) like steam games, but many WONT work. even on wine..
[04:46] <Flare-Laptop> !ops | freefreef
[04:46] <y6i> tritium: all i know is i cant log into my machine
[04:46] <Quan-Time> Xfact: look into "cedega" but that cost money.. and i prefer wine anyway.
[04:46] <brummbaer> henryhammond: dammit i'm an idiot, i'm sorry; i'm used to doing this for internal ports, can you try lsusb instead of lspci?
[04:46] <Xfact> So guys, should I use Ubuntu in that Alienware or I have to use that preloaded windows 7 (which taking lots money) in it...:( (I hate windows)
[04:47] <tritium> y6i: that machine is running Ubuntu?  Which account are you trying to login with?  A user account?
[04:47] <blakkheim> Xfact: build your own system and use nvidia, much better for linux
[04:47] <Quan-Time> Xfact: taking "lots of money" ? err.. its not THAT expensive compared to the system.. OEM is fairly cheap.
[04:47] <powertool08> y6i: as Quan-Time suggested, livecd is probably easiest, boot it up, mount the root partition and delete the hash in /etc/passwd and the shadow file.
[04:47] <rudra> how to create desktop shortcut from application menu
[04:47] <y6i> tritium: yes ubuntu and yes a user account
[04:47] <switch10> Quan-Time: what is steam anyway?  I keep hearing about that.
[04:47] <Xfact> Quan-Ti8me: But I don't want to span
[04:48] <y6i> powertool08: can you pm me please?
[04:48] <rudra> how to create desktop shortcut from application menu in xubuntu
[04:48] <henryhammond> brummbaer: I get my SanDisk memory stick, and then the device below that the ID has 1727:0077 but no title
[04:48] <tritium> y6i: you can boot the machine into single-user mode, and then change the user's password
[04:48] <Mr_Lordi> All my media players are crashing when trying to watch a DVD...
[04:48] <adamonline45> how do I know if I need to use fakeRAID?
[04:48] <Xfact> Quan-time: yes, but I don't want to span even $1 for windows or any operating system, when I am having fine OS for free!
[04:48] <y6i> tritium: how do you do that?
[04:48] <Xfact> lol
[04:48] <rudra> anyone to anwer me
[04:48] <dsnyders> Xfact, Install Linux, and use Windows in a virtual machine.  After all, you've paid for it.  No sense it going completely to waste.
[04:48] <Quan-Time> switch10: umm.. steam is... ok.. know how the ubuntu repository works ? its like that for games.. Steam is the valve "program" which auto updates games for you..  Its fairly slick if your into that sorta thing.. Half life2 stuff.. and heaps of others.
[04:48] <rudra> how to create desktop shortcut from application menu xubuntu
[04:48] <Hammerjak> rudra: System -> Preferences -> Main Menu ? sorry i don't have xubuntu
[04:49] <tritium> y6i: hit Esc when you first boot, and select the recovery mode (single-user mode) from the grub menu
[04:49] <kain_> Hammerjak : i get "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g' "
[04:49] <Flare-Laptop> !dontfeedthetroll
[04:49] <Xfact> well, thanks for suggestion...I will try to add nvidia card instade of ATI...
[04:49] <y6i> tritium: then what?
[04:49] <Flare-Laptop> !troll
[04:49] <Quan-Time> Xfact: look up "cedega" by transgaming.. it COSTS MONEY.. to play games on linux (well).  so your crap outta luck in that respect... wine is a good alternative.. WINE = Windows application layer (NOT an emulator)
[04:49] <Hammerjak> kain_: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[04:50] <kain_> Hammerjak : what does ntfs-3g do exactly?
[04:50] <Quan-Time> kain_: it enables NTFS partition writing
[04:50] <Hammerjak> kain_: it is the drivers that allow linux to 'talk' ntfs
[04:50] <Quan-Time> i use it.. works well
[04:50] <Alan502> Hi :) i'm trying to mount an *.iso but the following error message displays instead: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" Would someone help me?
[04:50] <rudra> how to do voice chat through pidgin with gtalk id
[04:50] <rudra> how to do voice chat through pidgin with gtalk id
[04:50] <rudra> how to do voice chat through pidgin with gtalk id
[04:50] <FloodBot3> rudra: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <tritium> y6i: use the "passwd" command, in combination with the username, to change the user's password
[04:50] <ejwaxx> alan502: are you trying to mount it as a virtual drive?
[04:50] <Quan-Time> Alan502: how are you trying to mount it ? are you using -loop ?
[04:50] <y6i> tritium: how?
[04:51] <tritium> y6i: "passwd <username>"
[04:51] <Flare-Laptop> !mountiso | Alan502
[04:51] <Alan502> Quan-Time, ejwaxx , yes, i'm using -o loop : http://paste.ubuntu.com/352699/
[04:51] <Quan-Time> try what ubottu said.
[04:51] <y6i> tritium: let me boot up the machine, it'll be 3 minutes. will you be here?
[04:51] <Xfact> yes..right...i should give win 7 a value too...cause the machine total costs over $7,600... *valuable! lol :D
[04:51] <tritium> y6i: yes, for a bit longer
[04:51] <ejwaxx> alan502: you can download gmountiso for a gui frontend to mount .iso images
[04:51] <Xfact> thanks for suggestion everyone :)
[04:51] <blakkheim> Xfact: that is ridiculous
[04:52] <tritium> Xfact: that's insane
[04:52] <Hammerjak> Alan502: -t iso9660 -o loop
[04:52] <blakkheim> Xfact: you could build the same system for much cheaper, you are getting ripped off
[04:52] <Quan-Time> Xfact: having a "uber fast" pc DOESNT make you game better or faster.. TRUST me
[04:52] <tritium> Xfact: I build my own systems, and never spend more than $1k, often much less.
[04:52] <Alan502> Quan-Time, ejwaxx i've mounted this exact iso earlier, from the command line. I don't know what is happening right now tho
[04:52] <brummbaer> henryhammond: odd... sadly i've reached the end of the road for my evening. as a last piece of advice, since this seems to be a common problem, all the super-techs jump on this type of thing on launchpad. your specific problem is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/446889
[04:52] <admiralspark> can someone tell me how to access irc.freenode.net?
[04:52] <blakkheim> admiralspark: you're on it..
[04:52] <Quan-Time> Alan502: is something else still mounted ? maybe its conflicting
[04:52] <brummbaer> henryhammond: good luck to you!
[04:52] <Flare-Laptop> admiralspark: Your already on it
[04:53] <Alan502> Hammerjak, i read the manpages and tried that, but another error message is displayed.. let me paste it for you
[04:53] <kain_> Hammerjak : does ntfs-3g change my grub file?
[04:53] <Xfact> blakkheim: my dad buying for me, my dad have a lots of 'trust' on DELL! (I really don't know why! :-X)
[04:53] <Hammerjak> kain_: no
[04:53] <admiralspark> *smacks forehead* thanks
[04:53] <henryhammond> brummbaer thanks alot for the help, ill keep working on it
[04:53] <Alan502> Quan-Time, there's nothing mounted
[04:53] <y6i> ok tritium, press esc at the menu where it asks you what kernel you want to run? it wont let me.
[04:53] <Flare-Laptop> admiralspark: Np
[04:53] <Flare-Laptop> :P
[04:53] <Quan-Time> Alan502: oh.. weird
[04:54] <tritium> y6i: what do you mean it won't let you?
[04:54] <kain_> Hammerjak : THANKS, it worked :D
[04:54] <y6i> tritium: nothing happens
[04:54] <Hammerjak> kain_:  great !:D
[04:54] <Alan502> Hammerjak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/352701/
[04:54] <kain_> Hammerjak : i just hoped it didn't do anything to my grub file cause i had to modify a line to be able to boot Ubuntu on my sata drive
[04:54] <Alan502> Hammerjak, that is what i get when i try to specify the type
[04:54] <tritium> y6i: are you using the arrow keys to move down the list?  Hit enter to select the one you want.
[04:55] <Quan-Time> Alan502:  try "man mount" and see if theres a option for filesystem or somethin.. maybe thats causing it ? its a non standard iso ?
[04:55] <y6i> tritium: select recovery mode?
[04:55] <tritium> y6i: yes
[04:55] <Hammerjak> kain_: no, ntfs-3g doesn't have anything to do with grub, you're fine
[04:56] <a|3x> i am having a problem with new ubuntu kernel update, every time it swaps hard enough my mouse freezes up and if i am talking on skype or sip it locks up the sound, and ideas or if i want something done right i have to make menuconfig myself?
[04:56] <acovrig> do I need x11 forwarding on the remote machine for x11vnc?
[04:56] <Alan502> Quan-Time, i created it with k3b.. .so i think it is a standard iso
[04:56] <josh99> Anyone here really good with OpenOffice?
[04:57] <Mr_Lordi> how do i get encrypted DVD playback support?
[04:57] <Hammerjak> josh99: just ask your question :)
[04:57] <y6i> tritium: select grub right? then what?
[04:57] <Quan-Time> kain_: ntfs-3g is like a "driver" for hardware.. Because the hdd partition is NTFS, its treated as a seperate piece of "hardware". the 3g driver helps you install (mount) the part so you can interact with it properly  (this isnt exactly true, but it helps explain it)
[04:57] <josh99> Despite my craftiest attempts to remove the cursor from a table cell without activating autocorrect, it consistently replaces my simple 4-digit time with a 15 digit version.
[04:57] <josh99> Thus ruining my table.
[04:57] <tritium> y6i: you select recovery mode (single-user mode)
[04:57] <josh99> I just want to turn the god blessed thing off.
[04:58] <y6i> tritium: im in the recovery menu
[04:58] <Xfact>  but my current 'heap' still doing problem with hardy...some program closing unexpectedly :(....is that a problem of having old OS?
[04:58] <kain_> Hammerjak : i got another problem now
[04:58] <Xfact> hardy...
[04:58] <tritium> y6i: you mean the grub menu?
[04:59] <y6i> no
[04:59] <y6i> yea\
[04:59] <y6i> i think they are the same thing
[04:59] <kain_> Hammerjak : now when i turn my external hard drive on, i get error : "only root can mount ...."
[05:00] <tritium> y6i: move the arrow key down to the recovery mode of the most recent kernel version, and hit the Enter key, and it will boot into single-user mode.
[05:00] <Hammerjak> kain_: putting it in your fstab will auto-mount without needing to be root.... if you turn the hdd on after ubuntu boots... i don't know how to get around that :)
[05:00] <y6i> im in single user mode
[05:00] <josh99> Saving the document replaces it. Any key removing the cursor from the cell enables it.
[05:00] <mediaprodigy> anyone familiar with FreeNX for ubuntu?
[05:00] <rudra> how to do voice chat through pidgin with gtalk id
[05:00] <y6i> im in the recovery menu, its in a white box with a blue background
[05:01] <n16h7f0x> is there anyway i can find out how many traffic is on a net interface without ip traf just run a command and the command outputs the traffic at the second i run it?
[05:01] <kain_> Hammerjak : hmmm, i'll try and find how
[05:01] <josh99> The only thing I haven't tried is killing the process and hoping it recovers it with a reset cursor position. It shouldn't come to that. I just want to turn autocorrect off for tables.
[05:01] <acovrig> how do I use x11vnc?
[05:01] <rudra> how to do voice chat through pidgin with gtalk id
[05:01] <Quan-Time> rudra: ok.. got your mic working normally ?
[05:01] <Hammerjak> n16h7f0x: do you want the actual traffic or do you want to see how fast it's going?
[05:01] <rudra> ya
[05:02] <Quan-Time> got the plugin for pidgin ?
[05:02] <n16h7f0x> actual traffic
[05:02] <tritium> y6i: make the selection, and boot it, please.  Let me know when you're at the prompt once it boots.
[05:02] <acovrig> how do I use x11vnc?, I just want to vnc my ubuntu from my mac (JollyFast NVC) without a notifycation
[05:02] <Trezker> Question: Bumptop like features, are any of them available in Ubuntu?
[05:02] <rudra> which plugin & how to obtain the same
[05:02] <Hammerjak> n16h7f0x: my suggestion would be to install wireshark
[05:02] <y6i> tritium: what ptompt?
[05:02] <n16h7f0x> Hammerjak, i need that for a script not a grafical tool
[05:03] <tritium> y6i: the shell prompt
[05:03] <n16h7f0x> some command line solution
[05:03] <Hammerjak> n16h7f0x: like tcpdump?
[05:03] <mazda01> after I start up machine, my fstab auto mounts no longer mount? any suggestions? i can issue sudo mount -a and everything is fine but what reason would make them not automount anymore?
[05:03] <rudra> plz help me <Quan-Time>
[05:03] <bayu> medan
[05:03] <y6i> tritium: it says "resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, netroot, root, xfix"
[05:03] <n16h7f0x> Hammerjak, yup but i want only to know actual speed
[05:04] <Hammerjak> n16h7f0x: like ntop?
[05:05] <n16h7f0x> dunno ntop
[05:05] <n16h7f0x> let me check
[05:05] <chu> hey guys, can anyone recommend a good terminal-based email client?
[05:05] <tritium> y6i: what distribution and release are you running?
[05:05] <ceW> medan
[05:05] <y6i> encrypted ubuntu 9.04
[05:06] <n16h7f0x> hammerjack no ntop isnt good
[05:06] <iKernel> Check this out guys. http://pastebin.ca/1741086 . Alien Arena (version 7.33, downloaded in .zip format from a mirror) hangs at sound initialization. strace output suggests that it's waiting for something, but that something ain't happenin.
[05:06] <Hammerjak> n16h7f0x: sorry, that's the extent of the programs i know, can't help you
[05:08] <josh99> Disabling. AutoCorrect. Doesn't. Fix it. Either.
[05:08] <Jef91> Hello all
[05:08] <tritium> y6i: from that menu, choose the root shell
[05:08] <Jef91> Anyone here know the syntax for sftp?
[05:08] <josh99> God, I'm so mad at this program right now.
[05:08] <Jef91> I need a hand uploading a file via CLI
[05:08] <ceW> medan
[05:08] <y6i> tritium: ok what now
[05:08] <blakkheim> Jef91: uploading to where?
[05:08] <Hammerjak> Jef91: can't just scp it?
[05:09] <Jef91> Uploading to an ftp server, what is scp?
[05:09] <tritium> y6i: are you at a root prompt?
[05:09] <y6i> tritium: yes
[05:09] <Alan502> !test
[05:09] <Hammerjak> Jef91: secure copy, if you can ssh to the box, you can scp to it
[05:09] <Ademos> Ubuntu 9.10: If I've run a Palimpsest Disk Utility test and gotten a healthy status, can I safely ignore the grinding noises of my hard disk? Keep in mind that it is a Western Digital  Velicorpator so some noise MAY be normal.
[05:09] <Jef91> Hammerjak - no ssh, just ftp
[05:09] <powertool08> chu: have you checked out mutt?
[05:09] <tritium> y6i: sudo password <username>, where <username> is the userame of the user you're trying to reset the password for
[05:10] <psvasti> What's the most efficient way to mount an iso file using Ubuntu?
[05:10] <tritium> y6i: actually, sudo is not needed in this case, since you're in single-user mode
[05:10] <Jef91> psvasti: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mount/point
[05:11] <Hammerjak> Jef91: what problem are you having, do you not know the commands or is there an error
[05:11] <josh99> Oh, why...
[05:11] <y6i> tritium: "bash: password: command not found"
[05:11] <Jef91> Hammerjak: I do not know the syntax to get it to upload my file
[05:11] <DaZ_> y6i: passwd
[05:11] <tritium> y6i: sorry, passwd
[05:11] <Hammerjak> Jef91: sftp <hostname>; cd <wherever you want to put file>; put <filename>;
[05:12] <Jef91> Hammerjak - how does that work if I just have an IP and need to enter a user name and password to upload?
[05:12] <Hammerjak> Jef91: when you do 'sftp <ip address>' it will prompt for user and password
[05:13] <y6i> tritium: seems I cant remember my username either :(
[05:14] <tritium> y6i: it'll be listed in /etc/hosts
[05:15] <tritium> er, /etc/passwd, rather
[05:15] <y6i> tritium: how do I access that
[05:15] <chu> Looks pretty good, thanks powertool08
[05:15] <gamerx> hi everyone!
[05:15] <Hammerjak> y6i: or you can just run 'users'
[05:15] <powertool08> chu: np
[05:15] <gamerx> can someone help me check username highlighting in theis client!
[05:15] <nick125> gamerx: like this?
[05:15] <gamerx> cheers
[05:16] <y6i> Hammerjak: that produced no results
[05:16] <gamerx> works nicely :p
[05:16] <tritium> y6i: cat /etc/passwd
[05:16] <ceW_> medan
[05:16] <powertool08> Hammerjak: I think that outputs currently logged in users
[05:16] <Jef91> Hammerjak: Thanks much got it working
[05:16] <Hammerjak> powertool08: ah, i'm an idiot :)
[05:17] <y6i> tritium: cat: /etc/passwd/: Not a directory
[05:17] <kain_> Hammerjak : how can i create a sort of script to execute some console commands?
[05:18] <tritium> y6i: if this user was the first one you created during install, it would be the user with ID 1000
[05:18] <chu> kain_ bash scripting?
[05:18] <y6i> tritium: cat: /etc/passwd/: Not a directory
[05:18] <tritium> y6i: you added an incorrect / at the end of what I told you to do
[05:18] <lin00b> can some one please give list of rar variables that I can use from terminal ?
[05:18] <Ademos> Ubuntu 9.10: If I've run a Palimpsest Disk Utility test and gotten a healthy status, can I safely ignore the grinding noises of my hard disk? Keep in mind that it is a Western Digital  Velicorpator so some noise MAY be normal.
[05:19] <kain_> chu : i don't want to have to always write in my console "sudo mount /media/Other" and "sudo mount /media/Backup"
[05:20] <nick125> Ademos: I wouldn't ignore them, no.
[05:20] <kain_> chu : i want to be able to do it just by executing a script thing
[05:20] <y6i> tritium: ok, I just changed my "UNIX" password. I hope that's the same as my login password. if it is, just out of curiosity, whats the command for ubuntu?
[05:20] <powertool08> kain_: Are you using gnome? you should be able to find your device in nautilus and just click it to mount.
[05:20] <chu> Yeah sure, write a bash script, give it admin privs (mmm, may have to hardcode sudo password? or execute the script as sudo), and add it to start-up application
[05:21] <Ademos> nick125, well the thing is, the model of my hard disk is known for making I/O noise, even when it's new; so I'm not sure when to get worried...
[05:21] <nick125> Ademos: Has it always made this grinding noise?
[05:21] <kain_> powertool08 : its NTFS, i've installed ntfs-3g and added lines in fstab to be able to mount with write, read, execute permissions
[05:21] <Ademos> nick125, hard to say...I mean it always has when I'm transfering files
[05:21] <tawd> !botsnack
[05:21] <tritium> y6i: the command for what?
[05:21] <chu> kain_ : Or, add them to your fstab, they appear to be separate partitions, ala mount points. Should be fine. Check out docs on fstab.
[05:21] <y6i> tritium: for starting ubuntu
[05:21] <Ademos> nick125, but sometimes it's been happening when I'm doing nothing, I just found this though: http://lifehacker.com/5291974/iotop-tells-you-what-process-is-grinding-your-hard-drive
[05:21] <kain_> powertool08 : but its an external drive, so when i turn it on, i get error, only root can mount
[05:22] <y6i> tritium: the gui
[05:22] <tritium> y6i: from single-user mode, telinit 2
[05:22] <nick125> Ademos: Kind of ironic post name, heh.
[05:22] <powertool08> kain_: hmm, my external shows up as a removable device I can just click on and it mounts.
[05:22] <lin00b> k.. I tried man rar
[05:22] <lin00b> can I export it to a text file ?
[05:22] <lin00b> man text file ?
[05:23] <Ademos> nick125, haha well it may answer my question
[05:23] <kain_> powertool08 : i g2g, thanks anyways, i'll be back later to see if i can find a solution to my problem
[05:23] <chu> I think Ubuntu a made a graphical man page viewer if that's what you mean? I don't know what it's called, but I may (or may not) remember reading about it.
[05:23] <chu> s/Ubuntu/Canonical
[05:23] <lin00b> I tried man in terminal
[05:24] <lin00b> can I export that manual to text file ?
[05:24] <chu> You could probably do something like "man <app> > man_app.txt"
[05:24] <tawd> lin00b if you want?  like man rar > file
[05:24] <powertool08> graphical man page viewer? o_O who needs a gui to view text?
[05:24] <techgeek> I need help getting a dlink wda 2320 pci wireless card working with 9.10 2.6.31-16
[05:24] <jukebox-zero> Anyone know anything about killing ivp6 in 9.10? In fiesty you could go to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and edit that file. In 9.10 that file no longer exists...
[05:25] <Ademos> nick125, I guess I'll try this software and see if I notice anything; thanks for the response though
[05:25] <Ademos> later all
[05:25] <lin00b> No..I need to read the manual in gedit
[05:25] <lin00b> not in terminal
[05:25] <chu> Sure
[05:25] <powertool08> lin00b: Why? it says the same thing...
[05:25] <techgeek> I tried building the madwifi driver from source and when I try to apt-get the linux-restricted-modules for my kernel apt cant find them?
[05:25] <shadowimmage> hello, I've just installed WindowsXP on my secondary hard drive (not by choice, but by necessity of my university) when my linux drive was not installed in the computer (thinkpad T60 w/ultrabay secondary drive). What I'm trying to do, is update grub (grub2, I think) so that it will ask me which OS I want to startup at boot time.
[05:25] <lin00b> to keep some notes
[05:25] <chu> Pen and Paper
[05:25] <y6i> tritium: was telinit 2 really the right command or was that malicious code because that logged into a screen with my mouse cursor and a totally blank screen
[05:26] <lin00b> chu : lol :D
[05:26] <jukebox-zero> lin00b I know in the KDE terminal you can save the history (the output man gives you) and view it in gedit. At least I think.
[05:26] <tawd> lin00b why read it in gedit?  try man whatyouwanhere > /path/to/where/you/want/it/saved
[05:26] <Ilmatic> Hey do I have to install my printer software in order for ubuntu to recognize it?
[05:26] <tritium> y6i: it's correct.  It tells the system to switch from runlevel 1 (single-user) to runlevel 2 (multi-user, X, networking, etc.)
[05:26] <lin00b> @tawd..thanks ..I need to add some notes to that file for future reference
[05:26] <chu> If you pass the man to a piped file, you should bhe able to open the file with gedit. But seems pointless
[05:27] <tritium> Ilmatic: no, ubuntu pre-packages cups printer drivers
[05:27] <jukebox-zero> Also I can see all my neighbors wireless networks, but not my own. I've fiddled with all my router settings short of shutting off all security. Any ideas?
[05:27] <kinja-sheep> lin00b: "sudo updatedb && locate rsync | grep man" (Find where the file resides, uncompress and view it with Gedit.  You're better off using Ubuntu Help Center (or 'yelp' in terminal).
[05:27] <lin00b> mhm..I found all docs in /usr/share/doc :D
[05:28] <chu> Seems reasonable :p
[05:28] <tritium> y6i: an alternative, but unnecessary approach, is to reboot the machine.
[05:28] <Ilmatic> How so I set up my printer with ubuntu?
[05:28] <quintin_> Ilmatic: system > admin > printers ??? go figure eh
[05:28] <tawd> lin00b ;p  copy and edit the ones you want then lol
[05:28] <quintin_> it's really very easy
[05:29] <Kieran0413> Hi all, I'm having problems with alsa and my built in mic, the levels are either completely silent or I get huge amounts of static when I increase them, here's my alsa info http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6ab8487ae7c8032da48f4a474632ae568ba1b05d
[05:29] <psvasti> what's the easiest way to mount an iso so i can run it in wine and install and play the game?
[05:29] <y6i> tritium: i tried that
[05:30] <tritium> y6i: well, you should be all set
[05:30] <ejwaxx> psvasti: you can get the package gmountiso from synaptic -- it works a lot like poweriso in windows
[05:30] <kinja-sheep> psvasti: Mount an ISO? Right-click the file and Mount.
[05:30] <psvasti> ok thanks guys
[05:30] <y6i> tritium: this time i ran my hand accross the computer and it brought up a verbose dialogue of what the computer was doing
[05:31] <y6i> tritium: i mean i ran my hand accross the keyboard
[05:31] <lucas1> Hey Frank.
[05:31] <powertool08> y6i: That's normal, you just exited the fancy splash screen.
[05:31] <Kieran0413> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:32] <y6i> tritium: it froze at "setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254) [ OK ]
[05:32] <y6i> and it WONT MOVE :(
[05:32] <y6i> what should I do
[05:33] <Jef91> Anyone know if I can edit a dependencies required version number for a deb package?
[05:33] <y6i> actually before that it said "Checking battery state..." but its a desktop and doesnt even have a battery.
[05:34] <Silver_Swords> hi all. im still unable to play 3gp with sound. i installed almost all players (including kaffeine) and no sound yet. im on gnome 9.10
[05:34] <y6i> ANYONE??!?!
[05:34] <lin00b> can mono actually port .net 3.5 ?
[05:34] <lin00b> for ubuntu ?
[05:34] <chu> Sure, why not?
[05:35] <shadowimmage> hello, I've just installed WindowsXP on my secondary hard drive (not by choice, but by necessity of my university) when my linux drive was not installed in the computer (thinkpad T60 w/ultrabay secondary drive). What I'm trying to do, is update grub (grub2, I think) so that it will ask me which OS I want to startup at boot time.
[05:36] <powertool08> y6i: try ctrl+alt+sys req + r + e + i + s + u + b The letters can be pressed one after another not all at once. It should reboot.
[05:36] <Jef91> shadowimmage: run "sudo update grub" in terminal
[05:36] <Jef91> shadowimmage: It should find all installed OSes on drives attached to the system and add them to the grub menu.
[05:36] <y6i> powertool08: i've already rebooted though. same deal.
[05:37] <Jef91> shadowimmage: Also, tell your uni they are a bunch of pricks for requiring windows
[05:37] <powertool08> y6i: Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring helps to remember this.
[05:37] <powertool08> y6i: rebooted after it crashed and it crashed in the same place?
[05:37] <Sleepnbum> lol
[05:37] <y6i> now its moving again!
[05:38] <tawd> :)
[05:38] <iOmlette> Moving is good.
[05:38] <shadowimmage> Jef91, is it "update grub" or "update-grub" (also, neither work "sudo: command not found")
[05:38] <Jef91> shaodwimmage try grub update
[05:39] <Jef91> shadowimmage the command is: sudo update-grub
[05:39] <Jef91> shadowimmage - note this only works if you have grub2, so 9.10 or 10.04
[05:40] <Losha> Jef91: actually, update-grub also works with grub1 in 8.04
[05:40] <Jef91> Losha: Good to know, I never dual booted before 9.10
[05:41] <lin00b> how ho decrypt a folder which was encrypted in other ubntu system ?
[05:41] <shadowimmage> actually, none of the commands with the "-" in them work... what I found is that sudo grub update, just puts me in a grub terminal or something?
[05:41] <Ilmatic> it wont printttttt
[05:41] <lin00b> I know the email and password of the key file
[05:42] <K3rmit> anyone know where I can get help with video codecs/
[05:42] <K3rmit> ?
[05:42] <Kieran0413> K3rmit, what's the problem, just ask, someone might be able to help
[05:43] <tawd> !codecs | K3rmit
[05:44] <dsnyders> I want to build a new machine, but all the new motherboard, chipset, and cpu options are bewildering.  Anybody got a link to a good website that explains them?
[05:44] <K3rmit> I have an avi video file which is compressed with a DVCodec but I can't get it to show any video
[05:45] <K3rmit> I've downloaded the VFW codec but didn't work
[05:45] <dsnyders> Eg, ATI or NVidia, Intel vs AMD, etc.
[05:45] <jschall> Motion is set to use the pid file /var/run/motion/motion.pid, but every time i make the /var/run/motion directory and chown it to the motion user, it gets deleted on reboot, so motion can't be started. How can I make /var/run/motion and make it stick?
[05:46] <lin00b> how to enable root login ? please
[05:46] <jay> hey can someone help me out with something
[05:47] <jschall> lin00b: you shouldn't need to.
[05:47] <dsnyders> Jay, just ask your question
[05:47] <jschall> !sudo > lin00b
[05:47] <jukebox-zero> K3rmit. Do a google search for svn ffmpeg. Follow their instructions to install and anything you can't play you can convert to something you can. Saves me loads of bother.
[05:47] <shadowimmage> ok, so I got grub to do it's update thing... but it didn't find windows
[05:47] <lin00b> I need it for saving fine in /var/www
[05:47] <lin00b> from file manager
[05:47] <Guest30261> im using ubuntu karmic and am running vista in virtualbox, how do i get the ports to work for the virtual vista
[05:47] <lin00b> sudo works in terminal ..
[05:47] <rameez> lin00b: why don't you use sudo
[05:47] <K3rmit> jukebox-zero hmmm ok thanks
[05:48] <lin00b> but for filemanager sudo wont work in filemanager
[05:48] <Guest30261> i need to do some work on an iphone using windows software so i really need the ports
[05:48] <lin00b> I need to edit file in gedit instead of nano in terminal
[05:48] <arand> lin00b: what is it exactly you're trying to do?
[05:48] <powertool08> lin00b: try gksudo gedit
[05:49] <iOmlette> lin00b: Run 'sudo gedit <file>' in terminal, or just 'sudo gedit'
[05:49] <Kieran0413> lin00b, gksudo gedit or just launch nautilus via gksudo
[05:49] <lin00b> ok..but I cannot alter files in /var/www/ from filemanager
[05:49] <td123> lin00b: right
[05:50] <td123> lin00b: cd into that folder, and type gksudo gedit file/youwanttoedit
[05:50] <arand> Kieran0413: lin00b: launching nautilus (file manager) with gksudo can be done, but is dicouraged due to the risk of messing things up big
[05:50] <faileas> lin00b: /var/www belongs to www-data - you either need to add yourself to its group, or use sudo mv to move it, then chown it back to www-data
[05:50] <lin00b> @td123.. I can edit it that way..but using a gui will make things easier for me
[05:50] <bleepbloop> hey everybody
[05:51] <td123> lin00b: gedit is a gui
[05:51] <lin00b> @faileas...thanks...can I chown a folder for two users ?
[05:51] <Kieran0413> arand, fair enough, I'll avoid mentioning it again then. thinking about it, it was probably a bad idea :)
[05:51] <lhommedangereux> i need to enable ports with vista on virtual box can some please help
[05:51] <jschall> lin00b: you can type gksu nautilus, gksu gedit in a terminal, run dialog (alt+f2), or make a link to them on your desktop, panel or main menu. Remember that the root user can SERIOUSLY cause damage if you mess with the wrong files, though.
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> Guest30261, i assume you mean USB ports?  for USB you can't use VBox OSE version (the one in Ubuntu repo) you need to either download the DEB or add Sun's repo for the PEUL version see http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[05:51] <td123> lin00b: ? you chown a folder for a user/group so no
[05:51] <faileas> lin00b: no. i think you can use chmod (something) alternately. i can't remember the 'right' way to tho
[05:51] <powertool08> faileas: What kind of info do you put on your wiki?
[05:51] <jukebox-zero> Does anyone know what the equivalent of /etc/modprobe.d/aliases is in 9.10? The official ubuntu docs still direct me there, and in 9.10 it doesn't exist. I need to disable IPv6, it always screws up my internet.
[05:51] <rameez> lin00b: not chowning to two users... you can add the users to the concerned group]
[05:51] <faileas> lhommedangereux: try asling the virtualbox channel
[05:52] <faileas> powertool08: oh, just what apps i use for various things, some command line stuff that i need once a century or so...
[05:52] <jschall> on my box /var/www belongs to root:root
[05:52] <bleepbloop> I have a spare computer and I want to try out another linux distro on it (it's a PowerPC imac), and so far I've been thinking of trying openSUSE or Debian 5.0, are those both good or are there any others that I should try first?
[05:52] <jschall> for some reason
[05:52] <lin00b> ok.. can I change it to apache:apache also ?
[05:53] <bleepbloop> I should also mention I'm a huge noob when it comes to linux and stuff
[05:53] <powertool08> faileas: Ah, thanks for the ideas :)
[05:53] <faileas> bleepbloop: well.. debian is similar to ubuntu ;p
[05:53] <bleepbloop> similar but not the same thing
[05:53] <lin00b> ubuntu is similar to debian :D
 :: You should be able to change to apache:apache if the user and group is existing.
[05:53] <Kieran0413> bleepbloop, there is/was an unofficial build of Ubuntu for PPC? Been a while since I've bothered with PPC stuff though
[05:54] <bleepbloop> and I've heard its learning curve is higher than ubuntu's so what better way to learn more than diving right in?
[05:54] <faileas> powertool08: its especially good with the windows boxen i support. i install a crapload of additional software and i can never remember all of it. least with ubuntu i got the package manager to jog my memory ;)
[05:54] <faileas> lol
[05:54] <lin00b> @rameez..thanks mate..I will get some knowledge of groups
[05:54] <faileas> bleepbloop: ubuntu is a debian derivative
[05:54] <faileas> bleepbloop: in short, most basics are the same, and most apps work in both
[05:54] <bleepbloop> Kieran0413: I already have ubuntu on a computer, I just wanted to try out a different one
[05:54] <bleepbloop> different linux distro that is
[05:54] <Kieran0413> bleepbloop, ahh ok :)
[05:55] <powertool08> bleepbloop: I like Arch linux myself, if you're comfy with the command line its a breeze, if you're terrified of it then don't
[05:55] <Hilikus> !backup
[05:55] <faileas> bleepbloop: well, the difference between debian and ubuntu is partially ideological, and ubuntu being more usercentric. you won't learn anything new
[05:55] <dekenx> !
[05:55] <lj2> hi
[05:56] <Michelle_> http://pastebin.ca/1741111 <<<---- Can someone please look at this output from when I boot off my usb, I need to figure out what is wrong so I can get this amchine booting again
[05:56] <Michelle_> It's imperative
[05:56] <powertool08> bleepbloop: CentOs is good if you want to learn about redhat style distros
[05:57] <bleepbloop> faileas:  Hmm thanks for the input, maybe I'll try openSUSE and go from there
[05:57] <Guest86708> im having trouble getting my D-Link wireless card to work, I have been trying to get this thing to work for a few days now
[05:57] <jschall> lin00b: i think you'd want to run: sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/www    then     sudo chmod 775 /var/www    then    sudo usermod -a -G www-data <username>
[05:57] <powertool08> bleepbloop: When I was first distro hopping I just burned about 10 live cd's and used each one until it pissed me off or bored me.
[05:57] <bleepbloop> powertool08: I just want to learn more about linux in general
[05:57] <faileas> Michelle_: it looks like the partition is not where its expected to be
[05:57] <disappearedng_> Hey can someone tell me chinese file names are all messed up on my computer? How do I go about changing that encoding without changing all my menus to like chinese
[05:57] <bleepbloop> and become a more proficient user, etc. etc.
[05:57] <faileas> bleepbloop: LFS! ;p
[05:57] <Guest86708> lsmod shows wlan with ath_pci
[05:58] <lin00b> @jschall :thanks.. I think thats what I need..thanks
[05:58] <Michelle_> Faileas: I set it up the way it's supposed to be :S Even if that didn't work I'd just let it do the partitioning automatically in the install, still no luck.
[05:58] <Michelle_> Faileas: Same output
[05:58] <jschall> lin00b: then you need to log out and log back in for the group join to take effect
[05:58] <faileas> more seriously though, i'd suggest picking a distro, and building up a box with just what you need from ground up. i learnt a load from that
[05:58] <powertool08> bleepbloop: Slackware is good for that. Not very noob friendly but if you can successfully run slackware, you can handle any distro.
[05:58] <jukebox-zero> Is there a way to change the computer name after installation? I just sped through it at install thinking I could change it later. I swear I've seen a dialog at some point to edit that. Not finding it for the life of me.
[05:58] <faileas> Michelle_: hmm, some more info would help. is this a unetbootin, ubuntu usb installer, or a full install?
[05:58] <Guest86708> anyone got any ideas on how to get this pci wireless card working
[05:58] <bleepbloop> what about Minix?
[05:59] <Michelle_> faileas: A full install from a live cd
[05:59] <arand> bleepbloop: in that case, go for a distro which is flaky and try to figure out all the problems, then when everything works as it should, move on ;)
[05:59] <Michelle_> Faileas: I need a persistent install
[05:59] <powertool08> bleepbloop: Never used it, sorry.
[05:59] <bleepbloop> I've heard thats geared towards helping people learn how to use the system
[05:59] <faileas> Michelle_: well, it looks like a normal install where something is off
[05:59] <faileas> ack
[05:59] <faileas> gotta go
[05:59] <dekenx> bleepbloop: u mean Mint or Minix
[05:59] <Kieran0413> jukebox-zero, /etc/hostname
[05:59] <Michelle_> Funny thing is that it doesn't tell me what, where or how it is going wrong, maybe if I were a computer or had a degree in computer science or something would I know what's wrong
[05:59] <bleepbloop> dekenx: Minix
[06:00] <dekenx> bleepbloop: oh ok that's a diffent story
[06:00] <jukebox-zero> kieran0413: Thanks.
[06:00] <valindil89> bleepbloop, Ubuntu is a great linux all around. If you want to learn linux jump into it. start playing around with ubuntu in the command line. the ubuntu wiki has loads of information.
[06:00] <lstarnes> jukebox-zero: be extremely careful when changing hostnames
[06:00] <lstarnes> jukebox-zero: add the new entry in /etc/hosts first
[06:01] <jellow> jukebox-zero: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts /etc/hostname   change both
[06:01] <jschall> hehe, check out my webserver at http://jon.pmtech.com
[06:01] <powertool08> bleepbloop: There's always gentoo ;) Great documentation, but chances are you won't understand half of what you're running in the terminal until much later.
[06:01] <lstarnes> jukebox-zero: but do not remove the old entry until after you update /etc/hostname
[06:01] <syntaxman> I have backups of my / and /home partitions, but my homedir was ecrypted as part of the installation.  I need to mount in manually, but where would I find the keyring/passphrase file?
[06:01] <jukebox-zero> lstarnes / jellow: Noted, thank you.
[06:01] <bleepbloop> valindil89: I know, but canonical stopped supporting PowerPC machines, so for mucking around in the command line I'm looking for something with better support for PPC machines right now :-P
[06:01] <disappearedng_> Hey can someone tell me chinese file names are all messed up on my computer? How do I go about changing that encoding without changing all my menus to like chinese
[06:01] <powertool08> My windows machine can't ping my linux box by hostname, only ip. Does anyone know if this is a windows problem or a linux problem?
[06:01] <KB1JWQ> powertool08: It's a DNS problem,
[06:01] <dekenx> ;:
[06:02] <powertool08> KB1JWQ: Obviously, but which box is at fault?
[06:02] <valindil89> bleepbloop, ahh ok
[06:02] <KB1JWQ> powertool08: Not enough information given.
[06:02] <bleepbloop> oh yeah, that reminds me why I mention debian too
[06:02] <powertool08> KB1JWQ: What information is needed?
[06:02] <bleepbloop> because Debian's developers still support PPC machines
[06:02] <syntaxman> There is an additional problem... the / backup has ALL the files under lost+found :-(    So I'm trying to find the ecryptfs passphrase in that mess.
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> how can I make a sudoers entry with nopasswd that works even if you do sudo -i ?
[06:03] <lin00b> is wget faster than normal downloading from firefox ?
 turtle cam is cool.. one :)
[06:03] <iceroot> lin00b: no but useing less ressources
[06:04] <iceroot> lin00b: so maybe its faster on very old hardware
[06:04] <lin00b> also can wget commands be resumed ?
[06:04] <iceroot> lin00b: sure
[06:04] <Kieran0413> So does anybody have any idea why I either get insanely quiet levels or huge amounts of static if I increase them on the build in mic? I've tried installing the latest alsa drivers which changed nothing, here's the alsa info http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6ab8487ae7c8032da48f4a474632ae568ba1b05d
[06:04] <lin00b> Iceroot : pls tell the command to resume wget downloads
[06:04] <Kieran0413> lin00b, wget -c
[06:04] <powertool08> lin00b: If you start them with the right switch, I think its -c?
[06:05] <iceroot> lin00b: its -c  also see man wget
[06:05] <lin00b> ya..lol man is very helpful :D
[06:05] <syntaxman> Googling has been fruitless.  And using find hasn't really help because I don't /really/ know what I'm looking for.
[06:05] <powertool08> KB1JWQ: What information is needed?
[06:05] <iceroot> lin00b: of course it is
[06:06] <Kieran0413> Nobody has any idea? Huge amounts of static gets really annoying :D
[06:07] <disappearedng_> How do I change my desktop encoding
[06:08] <adamonline45> So, I've isolated my install problems to having RAID enabled (NForce 6 series)...  Disabling RAID allows for a successful install...  Any ideas on how to have success with RAID?
[06:08] <git__> how does one determine if one has 802.11a/b/g/n on a laptop using Ubuntu?
[06:08] <Kieran0413> git__, iwconfig should tell you by the Bit Rate
[06:09] <dsnyders> git__, any problem with looking up the laptop specs on the net?
[06:09] <sri> in /etc/exports what does mean "sync" option
[06:09] <||arifaX> git__: if it is a module you can sometimes open a small plate on the bottom of the notebook and take a look on the label and google for it
[06:10] <lin00b> kde is damn good :D
[06:10] <Guest46625> How do I reset /boot/grub/grub.cfg to default???
[06:10] <iceroot> sri: so write directly to the drive without caching
[06:10] <git__> iwconfig works great
[06:10] <scunizi> lin00b: :)  just starting to get to know it again..
[06:10] <Kieran0413> or check lspci to find out what the adaptor is
[06:10] <dekenx> grub-update
[06:10] <git__> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abg
[06:11] <||arifaX> Guest46625: sudo update-grub
[06:11] <dekenx> opps yes update-grub (reverse)
[06:11] <Jonhnnyboy> is 12GB enough for ubuntu and into the future?
[06:11] <Jonhnnyboy> partition
[06:11] <Guest46625> I'arifax, I'm on crunbang live cd
[06:12] <sri> iceroot:  so  a client write directly with out caching ??
[06:12] <iceroot> Jonhnnyboy: i am using 8gb and its ok for ubutu
[06:12] <Guest46625> but when to the ubuntu grub.cfg file
[06:12] <iceroot> sri: the system which is holding the drive is writing directly
[06:12] <Jonhnnyboy> iceroot: what about future updates etc? will 8GB be enough in 1 year time?
[06:12] <iceroot> Jonhnnyboy: yes
 : future depends on your applications and data
[06:12] <Jonhnnyboy> k
[06:12] <dekenx> Guest46625: it automatically updates that file
[06:12] <jojuji> hey guys, is there a way to see my fan speed and cpu temp in ubuntu 9.10 running on a macbook pro? thanks
[06:12] <Jonhnnyboy> whats base for Ubuntu? 4GB?
[06:12] <iceroot> Jonhnnyboy: for ubuntu its no problem but maybe if you want to save movies and so on
[06:12] <dsnyders> Jonhnnyboy, It depends on what you're going to do with it.  For me, I need lots of space for videos.
[06:13] <Jonhnnyboy> dsnyders: how big is your partition?
[06:13] <Guest46625> dekenx, Searching for GRUB installation directory ...
[06:13] <Guest46625> No GRUB directory found. To create a template run 'mkdir /boot/grub' first. To install grub, install it manually or try the 'grub-install' command. ### Warning, grub-install is used to change your MBR. ###
[06:13] <Kieran0413> Jonhnnyboy, Well I'm using a 9.10 install with very little other than dev tools added and my / partition is using 3.7g
[06:13] <brous-kee> anyone here play aq????
[06:13] <Kieran0413> Jonhnnyboy, But remember you need swap space, etc
[06:13] <Jonhnnyboy> Kieran0413: hehe yea sure ;) good one
[06:14] <Jonhnnyboy> Kieran0413: i dont need that, using Virtualbox
[06:14] <brous-kee> rang a hang a gos ta dum de dum
[06:14] <dekenx> Guest46625: did u install it first?
[06:14] <scunizi> Jonhnnyboy: I have 3.. root is 10 gigs .... swap is 2gigs .. /home is 300 gigs
[06:14] <sri> iceroot: ok thank u
[06:14] <Kieran0413> Jonhnnyboy, Good one what?
[06:14] <jojuji> hey guys, is there a way to see my fan speed and cpu temp in ubuntu 9.10 running on a macbook pro? thanks
[06:14] <Jonhnnyboy> Kieran0413: you funny ;)
[06:14] <brous-kee> anyone has a newtbook?
[06:14] <iceroot> sri: np
[06:14] <Guest46625> dekenx I can't boot into ubuntu (grub) so i'm on crunbang live cd
[06:14] <dsnyders> 300G+275G+500G
[06:14] <Kieran0413> Jonhnnyboy, in what way?
[06:14] <iceroot> brous-kee: yes
[06:14] <brous-kee> my 300 gig mem died on me
[06:14] <Jonhnnyboy> jojuji: try list
[06:15] <brous-kee> anyone know how to fix it?
[06:15] <Jonhnnyboy> Kieran0413: saying 3.7GB
[06:15] <scunizi> Jonhnnyboy: if you have vbox for running ubuntu 8 gigs. but don't plan on audio/vidio storage..
[06:15] <dekenx> Guest46625: why can't you boot into ubuntu?
[06:15] <Jonhnnyboy> brous-kee: fix RAM?
[06:15] <iceroot> brous-kee: no,not without usefull infos of course
[06:15] <brous-kee> ya
[06:15] <Kieran0413> Jonhnnyboy, I said it's USING 3.7g, not my total partition is 3.7G
[06:15] <Jonhnnyboy> scunizi: im creating 12GB parition with vbox
[06:15] <Jonhnnyboy> Kieran0413: ahh ok cool
[06:15] <Guest46625> it shows the grub menu and only windows is on the menu
[06:15] <jojuji> Jonhnnyboy, what list?
[06:15] <scunizi> Jonhnnyboy: more than enough..
[06:15] <brous-kee> do u know how to fix 8 gig memory
[06:15] <Jonhnnyboy> jojuji: type list I think
[06:16] <jojuji> list
[06:16] <brous-kee> its seems to work for anything higher than 200 gig
[06:16] <Jonhnnyboy> brous-kee: did you run MEM TEST?
[06:16] <iceroot> brous-kee: what to you want to fix?
[06:16] <jojuji> hey guys, is there a way to see my fan speed and cpu temp in ubuntu 9.10 running on a macbook pro? thanks
[06:16] <dekenx> mount the Linux partition, login to it, reinstall and update grub
[06:17] <dekenx> jojuji: try xsensors?
[06:17] <jojuji> dekenx, does that come with an applet for the panel?
[06:17] <Jonhnnyboy> Guest46625: try SuperGrub boot CD to fix it
 : i just tried sysinfo.. but couldn't find fan speed there..
[06:17] <dekenx> I think there's a version or that, but it's also an app
[06:17] <rameez> other details of cpu is there
[06:18] <jojuji> rameez, is it an applet for the panel?
[06:18] <rameez> you can run it from the command line..
[06:18] <rameez> it will open the gui
[06:18] <dekenx> jojuji: what DE are u using?
[06:18] <jojuji> DE?
[06:19] <dekenx> jojuji: like gnome, kde, xfce?
[06:19] <rameez> also you can find it under :Applications:System Tols
[06:19] <jojuji> dekenx, gnome
[06:19] <dekenx> jojuji: I recall there being one, for the panel
[06:20] <jojuji> dekenx, by default, included? i cant find it
[06:20] <dekenx> jojuji: do u want it to click on the panel and open an app with info or show it right there?
[06:20] <jojuji> dekenx,  show it right there
[06:21] <Alan502> Any recommended closs platform VNC? I'm connecting from this linux machine to a windows one in the same LAN
[06:22] <dekenx> jojuji: install gnome-sensors-applet
[06:22] <rameez> Hi.. all ...I have a problem with sound card.. My hardware is Compaq Presario CQ40.. OS is Ubuntu 9.10
[06:22] <cew_sayang> medan
[06:23] <sri> how to configure the kickstart on ubuntu???
[06:23] <jojuji> dekenx, thanks
[06:23] <dekenx> jojuji: np
[06:23] <isolat3dsh33p> sri: what kickstart?
[06:23] <jukebox-zero> rameez: Did you read the release notes? I know there are several bugs/workarounds in there for graphics cards, there may be some for sound cards also
[06:23] <dekenx> did it work?
[06:23] <iceroot> sri: you mean kicker? that is kde  #kubuntu
[06:23] <rameez> i tried some pages in the ubuntu support pages.. but din't work
[06:23] <sri> no... it is an automatic installation
[06:24] <isolat3dsh33p> rameez: aplay -l should display ur sound card :)
[06:24] <iAmerikan> what's tehbest desktop manager?
[06:24] <Alan502> Any recommended closs platform VNC? I'm connecting from this linux machine to a windows one in the same LAN
[06:24] <iceroot> iAmerikan: the one you like
[06:24] <rameez> [11:54:18][0][~]$sudo aplay -l
[06:24] <rameez> aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...
[06:24] <rameez> [11:54:25][0][~]$
[06:24] <iAmerikan> I've only used gnome
[06:24] <FloodBot3> rameez: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <powertool08> Alan502:
[06:24] <powertool08> Alan502: Any of them
[06:24] <dekenx> iAmerikan: gnome and kde - stable most popular
[06:25] <kazagistar> is there some way to get compositing working on ubuntu inside a virtual guest?
[06:25] <isolat3dsh33p> rameez: You need to find ur driver then, check it using « lspci | grep Audio »
[06:25] <dekenx> iAmerikan: xfce: fast, less stable
[06:25] <Kieran0413> Alan502, There's an rdp client for linux which should save you installing anything on the windows box, alternatively tightVNC works well, or FreeNX
[06:25]  * powertool08 seconds xfce
[06:25] <kazagistar> iAmerikan: In that case, it is probably gnome, because you are used to it
[06:26] <dekenx> iAmerikan: lxde even faster
[06:26] <Alan502> !vnc
[06:26] <dekenx> less stable though
[06:26] <rameez> isolat3dsh33p>: it is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[06:26] <jellow> iAmerikan: or there is fluxbox or Openbox though it take a lot of time to configure
[06:26] <kazagistar> iAmerikan: seriously, they are all just fine, use whatever you find fits your workflow
[06:26] <dsnyders> isolat3dsh33p, kickstart is an automated install program.  It is useful for deploying multiple machines.
[06:26] <iAmerikan> Well tbh I have windows 7 installed, but I've had ubuntu partitioned for a long time, now windows is getting on my nervs, so I'm thinking about going fulltime nix
[06:26] <Alan502> Kieran0413, i'm only worried of response time and easy of use. As well as automatic startup when booted.
[06:27] <isolat3dsh33p> thanks dsnyders :)
[06:27] <iAmerikan> nerves**
[06:27] <eltume> what do i have to edit in /boot/grub/grub.cfg so that grub will boot the first option ???
[06:27] <Kieran0413> Alan502, RDP is what I'd use, if you really don't wanna use RDP, any of the other will work fine.
[06:27] <dsnyders> sri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[06:27] <Saxon> anyone help get a USBhard drive enclosure recognized?
[06:28] <Alan502> Kieran0413, thanks :)
[06:28] <eltume> what do i have to edit in grub.cfg so that grub will boot the first option ???
[06:28] <powertool08> eltume: look for the 'set default=0' line
[06:28] <jinuljt> move that section to the front of the grub.cfg
[06:28] <dsnyders> Kieran0413, Is there an RDP server for ubuntu?
[06:28] <jukebox-zero> rameez: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1220797
[06:29] <isolat3dsh33p> rameez: Use than info to find the driver :)
[06:29] <kazagistar> iAmerikan: KDE looks cool, GNOME is commercial-grade solid, XFCE is light but full-featured, ****box is really light, there are a bunch of tiling managers for keyboard freaks, etc... just install a few side by side and try them
[06:29] <sri> dsnyders: thanks...
[06:29] <Kieran0413> dsnyders, He wanted to connect to the windows box from the linux one, which is why I suggested it.
[06:29] <dsnyders> sri, hope it helps
[06:29] <eltume> powertool thank you, i love you lol
[06:29] <sri> yah
[06:29] <dsnyders> Kieran0413, Ah, missed that part.
[06:29] <iAmerikan> when you install multiple, how do do you switch?
 <isolat3dsh33p> : thanks for the help dudes..
[06:29] <dsnyders> Kieran0413, I want to do it the other way around: windows client, linux server.
[06:29] <dekenx> through the login window iAmerikan
[06:30] <iAmerikan> thanks
[06:30] <isolat3dsh33p> rameez: No problem :D
[06:30] <dekenx> you can chose the type of session there
[06:30] <roracle> Ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix issue:  the sound works fine, the only problem is when i play audio, it starts the output but I do not hear anything for like 5-10 seconds.  acer aspire one.  anyone else having this issue?  anyone have a clue as to how to fix this?
[06:31] <iAmerikan> I have a more serious issue, if anyone could possibly provide input?
[06:31] <Kieran0413> dsnyders, Not a clue then but a quick google turned up xrdp
[06:31] <dekenx> iAmerikan: please explain :)
[06:32] <isolat3dsh33p> roracle: You can hear sound after 5-10 seconds?
[06:32] <iAmerikan> Well, I was on vista when I had ubuntu partitioned, but when I upgraded to 7 it switched from grub to the win boot manager, so now I can't access my partition
[06:32] <kazagistar> iAmerican: friendly warning, KDE and Gnome tend to be hard to uninstall, and litter each other's menus with random apps that duplicate functionality... you might have to go online to figure out how to remove one or the other
[06:32] <roracle> isolat3dsh33p: yes i can
[06:32] <Saxon> looking for help getting a USB hard drive enclosure recognized... any help?
[06:32] <dsnyders> Kieran0413, Yeah, I saw that, but I haven't had an opportunity to test it.  When I saw you mention RDP, I thought you might have some experience with it.
[06:33] <dekenx> iAmerikan: yes ms will do that
[06:33] <Kieran0413> iAmerikan, boot from the live cd and do a grub-install
[06:33] <iAmerikan> I'm on the live cd now :D
[06:33] <[psyk]> iAmerikan: Use a live disk (I use tinylinux on my usb) and use gparted to access the partition and move the space. That's just a quick fix.
[06:33] <dekenx> iAmerikan: they don't like to share a PC with other OSes
[06:33] <kazagistar> iAmerikan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:34] <x1r3> Hey I just installed the latest version of ubuntu and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on installing an configuring Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g wireless card
[06:34] <Kieran0413> Are the broadcom cards still a pig then? :(
[06:35] <isolat3dsh33p> roracle: I'm not sure what's the problem. Sorry ;)
[06:35] <jukebox-zero> x1r3: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/index.html
[06:35] <dsnyders> iAmerikan, It's probably too late, but perhaps you could run Windows in a virtual machine on top of Ubuntu, rather than dual booting.
[06:35] <x1r3> ty
[06:35] <[psyk]> x1r3: Excellent question. Let me find something for you...
[06:36] <dekenx> iAmerikan: dual is fine as long as Grub handle it
[06:36] <iAmerikan> Well dsnyders the only reason I wasn't using virtualbox to do so was because I have 1 computer game that i've been playing for years, and it's windows only
[06:36] <roracle> it's very strange that most of the problems i have no one has a clue about, lol
[06:36] <[psyk]> x1r3: well it seems that juke beat me to it, if you still have issues drop me a PM
[06:36] <kazagistar> I want to test new versions of AWN in a virtual machine, but it requires compositing (like compiz)... any ideas on how to get this working?
[06:36] <Kieran0413> iAmerikan, What is it, just out of pure curiosity?
[06:36] <iAmerikan> IJJI's Gunz:The duel
[06:36] <jukebox-zero> psyk: One of the perks of having a jillion webpages open trying to solve my IPv6 problem ;)
[06:36] <iflema> x1r3: is your driver showing up under System/Administration/Hardware Drivers? if not install bcmwl-kernel-source from synaptic.
[06:37] <iAmerikan> Not a well known game, started out in korea. :P
[06:37] <ZykoticK9> kazagistar, VirtualBox can to compiz (not "well" but it can do it)
[06:37] <dekenx> iAmerikan: Have u possibly researched Wine functionality
[06:37] <iAmerikan> II have
[06:37] <tetricide> hi
[06:37] <tetricide> i put on my robe and wizard hat!
[06:37] <[psyk]> jukebox-zero: hahahah. yeah.
[06:37] <iAmerikan> It's not compatible currently
[06:37] <dekenx> iAmerikan: too bad, I remeber that game
[06:37] <jukebox-zero> ha ha ha harrrrrrr
[06:37] <[psyk]> jukebox-zero, x1r3: I'll be right back, I have to reboot and move around some partition space :]
[06:37] <iAmerikan> but if worse comes to worse I'll keep a 40 gb xp partition or something.
[06:38] <iAmerikan> Is there a way to check my live cd version, and my partitions version - from the cd?
[06:38] <petsounds> Good afternoon.. in xubuntu karmic volume always muted after reboot, and i need to scroll up the volume everytime i login. how can i fix this? thanks
[06:38] <roracle> iAmerikan: i have 7 installed for school work, XP installed for games, and Ubuntu installed for everything else
[06:38] <Kieran0413> iAmerikan, cat /etc/lsb-release from terminal
[06:38] <roracle> it's a very good setup
[06:39] <x1r3> yeah they show
[06:39] <Kieran0413> iAmerikan, to check the livecd version, you'd have to mount your partition to check the installed version the same way
[06:39] <kazagistar> ZykoticK9: ok, cool... I don't need well, I just need enough to test code that requires compiz working, and KVM didn't cut it, it seems
[06:39] <isolat3dsh33p> roracle: you problem is... unique ;)
[06:39] <jukebox-zero> Pirating your neighbors wireless = Less glamourous than advertised. Taking over 20 min just to apt-get update. Why wired doesn't work... ???
[06:39] <ian_> whenever i try to save my display configuration to the xorg.conf file from the nvidia x display manager, it says "failed to parse existing xorg.conf file."
[06:40] <nastas> hi all
[06:40] <iAmerikan> Thanks Kieran0413 I'll just do a new installation of 9.10 because both are out of date and I believe are different versions
[06:40] <daltio> guys i am installed ubuntu 9.10 on my machine i have debain etch based apt-proxy when i add my aot proxy on my debain9.10 machine it hangs on apt-get update
[06:40] <roracle> isolat3dsh33p: what about sound not working at all?  it's on a Dell Optiplex 330.  I looked everywhere and tried everything i could get my hands on, and nothing works at all
[06:41] <roracle> isolat3dsh33p: i even took the advice to try installing 32 bit and it still doesn't work
[06:41] <iAmerikan> how easy would it be to update from 8.10 to 9.10 on ubuntu?
[06:41] <x1r3> well that was easy
[06:42] <Flannel> iAmerikan: Pretty easy.  But you'll need to upgrade 8.10 -> 9.04 and then 9.04 -> 9.10
[06:42] <kazagistar> jukebox-zero: you can't just pirate the wireless, you have to make sure you hack the device to give you proper QoS(disclaimer: do not actually do this)
[06:42] <isolat3dsh33p> roracle: It depends on how many person use the hardware. More people use it, so more people experienced certain bug and eventually someone clever will fix it :)
[06:43] <kazagistar> iAmerikan: it might be faster and easier to just re-install, if you have a CD to spare
[06:43] <y6i> how do you start ubuntu from the command prompt?
[06:43] <ahmad46> does anyone know how to change the volume change interval when you use the keyboard?
[06:43] <alvorportugal> hi all jemand im Zug unterwegs?
[06:43] <y6i> from bash
[06:43] <roracle> isolat3dsh33p: typical Intel audio...granted, we don't have speakers, but in Windows it uses the system speaker to output sound
[06:44] <jukebox-zero> kazagistar: Yeah, but I finally got the ndisgtk package pulled through. Just like another 18 hours to download the driver I need and I can hopefully use my own wireless.
[06:44] <jukebox-zero> kazagistar
[06:44] <Flannel> alvorportugal: this channel is english only.  If you want support in german, #ubuntu-de
[06:44] <kazagistar> y6i: explain... do you want to start the graphics, and only have a terminal?
[06:44] <jukebox-zero> kazagistar: er... Thinking since I can get their internet but not my own, I may have bigger issues.
[06:45] <y6i> kazagistar: no im at the prompt outside of ubuntu right now and i want to start ubuntu
[06:45] <ahmad46> how can you change the amount that the keyboard volume controls change?
[06:45] <ahmad46> like if i press up my volume goes up 5%
[06:45] <Jordan_U> y6i: Do you mean the grub prompt?
[06:46] <ahmad46> how can i make it only go up 1%
[06:46] <y6i> Jordan_U: yes
[06:46] <jukebox-zero> y6i... what's your screen look like? like user@computer$ or do you see something else?
[06:46] <kazagistar> jukebox-zero: possibly, though you may just be missing wpa packages or something depending on the encryption you use
[06:46] <y6i> jukebox-zero: exactly
[06:46] <Jordan_U> y6i: Is this a new install?
[06:46] <y6i> Jordan_U: no im just having technical difficulties
[06:47] <kazagistar> y6i: try "startx" and tell us what happens?
[06:47] <y6i> no there is a command like teliterm 2 or something
[06:47] <y6i> i forgot what exactly it is
[06:48] <Cubey> hello
[06:48] <Kieran0413> Hi, Cubey
[06:48] <Cubey> :)
[06:48] <powertool08> y6i: try 'init 3'
[06:48] <Jordan_U> y6i: telinit?
[06:48] <jukebox-zero> kazagistar: I'm just about ready to shut off all encryption and security, but I got N+mimo so I'm afraid to drape my entire neighborhood in wifi. All that's enabled is then WPA passkey. That's pretty lax security really. Can't imagine why 9.10 doesn't even *see* my SSID.
[06:48] <domino14> my computer has MMC/SD/MS PRO/etc slots and i accidentally unmounted the drives and they wont show up anymore. how do i make them show up without restarting the computer?
[06:48] <Cubey> I'm having a bizare problem with the pesky nvidia driver (or perhaps a permissions/config file problem)
[06:48] <sri> could not find kernel image: ks
[06:49] <domino14> i unmounted thru the GUI
[06:49] <sri> when i am trying for kickstart installation
[06:49] <Cubey> mind you, I've had flawless installs with other nvidia cards in other machines from the same CD :S
[06:49] <y6i> Jordan_U: yes that's what I meant but it's not working for some reason
[06:49] <powertool08> Jordan_U: Background, y6i reset their root password earlier by booting into single user mode, another user told them to run telinit 2 to get back to the gui.
[06:49] <Hydrosis> My computer will NOT wake up from hibernation, and I've even turned off hibernation and it still hibernates, forcing em to reset.  Anyone know why this would happen and how to fix it?
[06:50] <sterlin> hey guys, is it possible to boot from an sd card on a mbp?
[06:50] <jukebox-zero> kazagistar: and WPA + WPA2 is an option in my config settings for signing on the network. Can't imagine why it would know, but not know. Than again I did find out earlier Grub2 doesn't natively support booting from a ext4 partition earlier so hell, nothing has to make sense I guess.
[06:50] <Cubey> this time/this card, it refuses to stick to the resolution settings, even if I edit the dang xorg.conf myself and put in the modes I want, it still goes to 640x480 and wont let me select any higher. but if i screw around and reboot, sometimes it'll work, until I reboot again even if I change nothing..
[06:50] <kazagistar> jukebox-zero: can you see the SSID from other computers?
[06:50] <domino14> how do i remount my MMC/SD/etc drive?
[06:50] <Cubey> the conf files seem to remain unchanged then it decides to work, or stop working..
[06:50] <BT> please any body tell me where i can find backtrack room ??
[06:51] <jukebox-zero> kazagistar, using it on this one, and was using it on the other box until I went from 7.* to 9.10
[06:51] <Jordan_U> jukebox-zero: GRUB2 does support ext4, who said it doesn't?
[06:51] <powertool08> BT: #remote-exploit
[06:51] <jukebox-zero> Jordan_U the official ubuntu docs.
[06:51] <BT> is this room or web
[06:51] <jukebox-zero> jordan_u could have been outdated though. sure didn't work on my box until I played with it.
[06:51] <Kieran0413> I find it quite amusing that you're looking for backtrack details here :)
[06:51] <Cubey> I first tried the newer driver. which gave this symptom so i changed to the older one... which "fixed" it until I rebooted... so i switched back to the newer and it fixed it, until i rebooted again :/
[06:51] <Jordan_U> jukebox-zero: Can you give a link so I can fix it if it's a wiki or file a bug report if not?
[06:52] <powertool08> BT, you're in the ubuntu channel, join the backtrack channel with '/join #remote-exploit'
[06:52] <BT> power  thnx alot
[06:52] <jukebox-zero> Jordan_u ah... sure... lemme try. I know a google search for converting ext3 to ext4 pops it up.
[06:52] <Jordan_U> y6i: If you run "reboot" your computer should reboot into the normal graphical system
[06:53] <iflema> Cubey: you get sorted? gksu nvidia-settings = change ya settings and save... merge or not?
[06:53] <Cubey> hm, lemmie try that...
[06:54] <Cubey> well, i have been doing that but with sudo
[06:54] <Cubey> but the highest res it offers is 640x480
[06:54] <iflema> !gksu
[06:54] <Cubey> yet other times it has booted up to 1280
[06:54] <NoCode> Is there anyway to get the old sound applet back prior to karmic? Currently using karmic, and my PA is MESSED up. I had to kill pulseaudio to make my sound work proper, it hasn't glitched so far. Though, the volumes are still a little messed up
[06:55] <NoCode> Maybe I'll just try OpenSuse
[06:55] <NoCode> and see how that applet is
[06:55] <Cubey> I have tried to then do the 'show preview' and change the 640x480 to 1024x768 and save it and reboot but it doesn't do a dang thing, it still loads in 640
[06:56] <NoCode> It's a shame though. This release is a pisser. :(
[06:56] <EastDallas> NoCode: Have you tried installing Pulse Alsa Mixer?  Gives more volume controls
[06:56] <iflema> Cubey: whats ya card model/manuf
[06:56] <NoCode> pulse alsa mixer? What?
[06:56] <iflema> nvidia
[06:56] <x1r3> I don't remember who told me to look under system/admin/hardware drivers to look for my wireless card driver but thank you it works now lol didnt think it would be that easy.
[06:56] <Cubey> hm, ok, now it's in 1024... i just did a restart of gdm. now lets try a real reboot..
[06:57] <iflema> no worrys
[06:57] <EastDallas> NoCode: sorry Gnome Alsa Mixer
[06:57] <Xfact> why people gives 'LTS' much priority.... now I am feeling like LTS is nothing but a simple old version of ubuntu!!!!
[06:57] <Cubey> yep ok, now it shows me all the higher res's too
[06:57] <Xfact> I am talking about hardy
[06:57] <lstarnes> Xfact: the LTS versions are designed to be more stable and last longer
[06:57] <ardchoille> Xfact: the current LTS *is* an old version of Ubuntu
[06:57] <lstarnes> Xfact: not to have the newest of everything
[06:57] <NoCode> installing it now
[06:58] <ardchoille> Xfact: 10.10 will be the next LTS release
[06:58] <lstarnes> ardchoille: wasn't it 10.04?
[06:58] <ardchoille> lstarnes: Ah, you're right, the next lts will be 10.04
[06:58] <Kartagis> good morning
[06:58] <kazagistar> Xfact, ardchoille: 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) is the next LTS, actually
[06:59] <EastDallas> NoCode: Home that helps...It def. helped me.  Also, installing the Ubuntu Studio Audio package installs a bunch of great tools.
[06:59] <nikhil_> can anyone point me in the direction to get a tablet working under linux
[06:59] <iflema> 10.04 LTS
[06:59] <Kartagis> any idea why brasero doesn't burn ISO, but when I reboot it does?
[06:59] <nikhil_> it's a rebranded version of something else available only in india
[06:59] <Xfact> istarnes: yes I know but lets talk about 8.04, it's 'stable' and 'last longer'!??! It's doing many problem in my PC that karmic overcoming.....
[06:59] <EastDallas> NoCode: but also a bunch of stuff you may not need.
[06:59] <NoCode> EastDallas, What command do I get the gnome alsamixer working?
[06:59] <Xfact> and aren't karmic stable and last longer....? confusing!
[06:59] <NoCode> EastDallas, Yeah, I'm not going to install ubuntu studio packages
[07:00] <NoCode> I just want to get my stuff working half decent
[07:00] <Shwack> I installed an icon theme, Magog White v.10, and it works, but I cannot find where the .png files are to edit them.    They are not in /usr/share/icons/ like the rest of the themes. Can anybody help me?
[07:00] <lstarnes> Xfact: they are only supported officially for 18 months
[07:00] <EastDallas> NoCode: it's under Applications>Sound and Video
[07:00] <lstarnes> Xfact: the LTS releases are supported for 3 years (5 years for servers)
[07:00] <ardchoille> Shwack: ~/.themes
[07:00] <ardchoille> Shwack: ~/.icons
[07:00] <Shwack> ardchoille,  thank you!
[07:00] <Xfact> I switched to hardy (LTS) is something spacial...but it's noting  :(
[07:00] <NoCode> EastDallas, Thanks, also gnome-alsamixer works. :)
[07:00] <EastDallas> NoCode: from CLI gnome-alsamixer
[07:00] <Kieran0413> Xfact, Of course newer packages will provide more features and get rid of some bugs but they can also introduce others, hence things like LTS
[07:00] <lstarnes> Xfact: and the regular releases are more likely to get mahjor changes that break things
[07:00] <lstarnes> *major
[07:00] <EastDallas> NoCode: excellent!
[07:01] <Cubey> ok, i wrote another new xorg.conf ... now lets see how it reboots...
[07:01] <kazagistar> Xfact: LTS simply means security updates for a longer time, so you don't have to update as often (important for businesses)... normal releases get updated more, so more patches (other then security) make it in
[07:01] <ardchoille> Shwack: ~/.themes and ~/.icons are for the user who installed them. /usr/share/themes and /usr/share/icons are for system-wide use
[07:02] <Cubey> hmm... seems to maybe be sticking now...
[07:02] <iflema> uh -herh
[07:02] <Xfact> istarnes: 18 months enough..in that 18 months the next new version will release to provide you another 18 months support!
[07:02] <Shwack> ardchoille, awesome - i found it and everything is perfect. thank you very much
[07:02] <ardchoille> Normal releases are based on debian unstable, LTS releases are based on debian testintg
[07:03] <Kieran0413> Xfact, That's ok for desktop users, migration happens much slower in business land.
[07:03] <Xfact> I should have switched to 9.10 as I m totally HOME user!
[07:03] <lstarnes> Xfact: I would recommend 9.04 over 9.10
[07:03] <Xfact> why 9.04... when .10 released!
[07:04] <bean> !test
[07:04] <lstarnes> Xfact: it is more stable
[07:04] <Cubey> 9.10 seems good. but i'm no expert ;)
[07:04] <ardchoille> bean: The bot isn't here
[07:04] <bean> oh no! Ubottu is rly down!
[07:04] <cyclone> Starting VirtualBox kernel module ...failed!
[07:04] <lstarnes> Xfact: and I have heard of many issues in 9.10
[07:04] <bean> ardchoille: i noticed
[07:04] <cyclone>   (modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why)
[07:04] <lstarnes> Xfact: alternatively, if you want something that is always up to date without needing to upgrade every 6 months, consider a "rolling relase" distribution such as arch, gentoo, or debian unstable
[07:05] <Cubey> yay, i think finally the settings are sticking...
[07:05] <NoCode> EastDallas, Oh man, I think this helped a lot. Was that PCM wasn't getting adjusted when using the other applets I wonder?
[07:05] <jukebox-zero> jordan_u: "Right now there's not a stable version of grub that supports booting a kernel from a ext4 partition. It's recommended that you keep /boot in a ext3 partition."
[07:05] <Kieran0413> Which is great, until portage decides it doesn't like you and you spend half a day fixing it :D
[07:05] <jukebox-zero> jordan_u: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[07:05] <Kartagis> any idea why brasero doesn't burn ISO, but when I reboot it does?
[07:05] <Xfact> Istarnes: which version of ubuntu you use?
[07:05] <NoCode> was it that*
[07:05] <lstarnes> Xfact: I was using 8.03
[07:05] <Cubey> I've rebooted it twice and it's still in 1024 and gives options for the higher res's
[07:05] <lstarnes> *8.04
[07:05] <kazagistar> pidgin was swapped out for empathy in 9.10, which is worse in a LOT of ways (but at least it has video, yay!)
[07:06] <EastDallas> NoCode: NP.  Glad I could help!
[07:06] <Cubey> couldn't you just install pidgin instead? ;o
[07:06] <Xfact> lstarnes:  you were...or you still use 8.04?
[07:06] <ardchoille> Cubey: you can
[07:06] <lstarnes> Xfact: I was using it
[07:06] <Kieran0413> Sure can, first thing I did was remove empathy.
[07:06] <lstarnes> Xfact: but I switched to arch a couple weeks ago
[07:06] <Xfact> cause  I am totally not happy with 8.04 :(
[07:07] <EastDallas> NoCode: I installed an old audigy card I had laying around a few weeks ago, and had to install Gnome Alsamixer to get it to work properly.
[07:07] <Xfact> ooh
[07:07] <lstarnes> Xfact: why not?
[07:07] <ardchoille> Xfact: I'm using 9.04 and I love it
[07:07] <Xfact> lstarnes:  it's doesn't support many progs and it's like 'unstable' to me :(
[07:07] <NoCode> EastDallas, hmm, this is on a laptop. I've always had problems with 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[07:07] <lstarnes> Xfact: how is it being unstable?
[07:07] <NoCode> in karmic anyway
[07:07] <Cubey> ardchoille: I know, i was being sarcastic ;)
[07:08] <iflema> kazagistar: pidgin can be reinstalled and has mic and cam now.... but stay with empathy... or not
[07:08] <NoCode> others not so much. It's why I ran Debian for a while
[07:08] <EastDallas> NoCode: I can't get the mic to work on my laptop at all since upgrading to Karmic.
[07:08] <Xfact> lstarnes:  like, after installation...some program is no working or closing unexpectedly in middle of usage... etc...
[07:08] <Kieran0413> EastDallas, Join the club, I've even resorted to installing the latest alsa drivers from source, no dice
[07:09] <NoCode> EastDallas, =\
[07:09] <nastas> EastDallas: did you check if the mic is muted?
[07:10] <EastDallas> Kieran0413: I never use the mic on my laptop, so no big deal, just means I have to use my desktop when recording music.  It sounds better with the better soundcard anyway. :p
[07:10] <EastDallas> nastas: def. not muted
[07:10] <ian_> my laptop isn't able to detect the battery i don't think, but it was able to before i put the computer to sleep.
[07:10] <NoCode> I wonder if there's a way to use my volume keys on my laptop with the PCM slider
[07:10] <EastDallas> NoCode: they work on mine right out of the box
[07:11] <NoCode> hmm, mine usually do too. Actually, i should re-enable them to see if that's what they adjust in karmic. I had to disable them because it was too loud when they adjusted.
[07:11] <nastas> EastDallas: you checked in sound preferences or in alsamixer?
[07:11] <EastDallas> nastas: I'
[07:12] <NoCode> hmm, k. When adjusting the volume it uses the master slider.
[07:12] <nastas> EastDallas: ? 1 min or the first a told you?
[07:12] <NoCode> nvm, no it doesn't
[07:12] <EastDallas> nastas: I've done everything you could possibly think of...I've just resolved that this is just one of the problems that goes with Karmic sound.
[07:12] <domino14> how do i mount my SD/MMC drive?
[07:12] <ian_> i have ubuntu 9.10, sorry i didn't mention that before.
[07:13] <domino14> i dont know how to find out where it is, how does it get automatically mounted on bootup?
[07:13] <iAmerikan> maybe I'll ask you guys to help me out with more stuff after the version update :D
[07:13] <EastDallas> nastas: I was just relating my frustration to other people with sound problems....I've done hours of troubleshooting on it.
[07:13] <NoCode> it uses both. :|
[07:13] <daurnimator> hi, svn keeps asking for my GNOME keyring
[07:14] <daurnimator> I didn't even know I had one
[07:14] <nastas> EastDallas: in my case the mic wasn't showed muted in sound preferences but it was muted in alsa mixer
[07:14] <EastDallas> nastas: the first thing I did was install gnome-alsamixer.  Didn't help
[07:14] <kazagistar> I'll go right out and say it... sound is the weakest part of the linux stack
[07:14] <nastas> EastDallas: did you check in a terminal alsamixer? (i guess you allready have)
[07:15] <Kieran0413> kazagistar, Indeed, the only thing I ever really have issue with, hardware wise.
[07:15] <Crash2108> I have a stupid easy one.
[07:15] <EastDallas> nastas: Like I said, not really interested in resolving...just telling others that I also had issues with sound in Karmic.
[07:15] <isolat3dsh33p> Kieran0413: how about graphics?
[07:15] <Crash2108> How do I exit a man page?
[07:15] <lstarnes> Crash2108: q
[07:15] <daurnimator> Crash2108: q
[07:15] <nastas> EastDallas: ok
[07:15] <isolat3dsh33p> Crash2108: LOL
[07:15] <Kieran0413> isolat3dsh33p, not really, the nv and ati drivers are much better than they used to be.
[07:16] <iflema> Crash2108: q
[07:16] <kazagistar> Kieran0413: it is really nasty on the developer side too :/
[07:16] <Crash2108> I've had issues with sound on my Nokia Booklet 3G with Karmic.  Sometimes when I boot it just doesn't work.  Rebooting makes it work.,  Pretty random.
[07:16] <daurnimator> anyone able to help with svn? >.<
[07:16] <isolat3dsh33p> Kieran0413: True actually. So sound it is
[07:17] <nastas> domino14: is it onboard card reader?
[07:17] <domino14> nastas: yes it is, it's built into the computer, i accidentally unmounted it thru the GUI
[07:17] <Kieran0413> kazagistar, I can imagine.
[07:18] <nastas> what gui?
[07:18] <sparr> after a recent upgrade I find ktorrent unable to connect to any trackers
[07:18] <isolat3dsh33p> nastas: graphical user interface
[07:18] <bean> sparr:  i would completely remove it, and reinstall it
[07:18] <x1r3> Is anyone running beryl that can help me get it installed and running.
[07:18] <Kieran0413> sparr, have you checked the ports are unchanged and if they are, make sure you've forwarded it?
[07:18] <Kieran0413> Didn't beryl go away years ago, x1r3?
[07:19] <isolat3dsh33p> x1r3: I think it's deprecated
[07:19] <iflema> beryl legacy believe
[07:19] <x1r3> i think it did too but i just found it lol
[07:19] <isolat3dsh33p> x1r3: It's compiz-fusion now
[07:19] <x1r3> i have it
[07:19] <iflema> themes ae hard to come by
[07:19] <Kieran0413> x1r3, just enable visual effects and install compizsettings-manager, you get all the flashiness :)
[07:19] <isolat3dsh33p> x1r3: you just found an artifact!
[07:19] <x1r3> ty
[07:20] <nastas> isolat3dsh33p: thank you  but i know what gui is :) i ment which gui application he was using. (like disk utility)
[07:20] <x1r3> i just want to be able to switch windows and cools stuff like i saw its stupid of me to want that but i think it looks cool
[07:20] <isolat3dsh33p> nastas: lol
[07:20] <nastas> isolat3dsh33p: :)
[07:20] <Kieran0413> x1r3, Yeah, you get the same thing from Visual effects, they're pretty conservative by default but you can enable plugins via compiz settings manager
[07:21] <nastas> domino14: tell me what application you used to unmound the card
[07:21] <greezmunkey>  m
[07:21] <domino14> nastas: the default GUI that comes with ubuntu, i believe it is gnome?
[07:21] <Kieran0413> x1r3, (which is in System -> preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects, in case you haven't found it)
[07:21] <domino14> i just right clicked
[07:21] <nastas> domino14: oh ok
[07:21] <domino14> nastas: maybe nautilus is it?
[07:21] <iflema> sudo apt-get update && apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:21] <Xfact>  in this room anybody else using 8.04 LTS except me?
[07:22] <Flannel> Xfact: Many people are
[07:22] <kazagistar> x1r3: it looks cool, and the only way to convince someone how useless most of it is is to use it for a while... only thing I use it for is the "Show all windows" shortcut and because AWN requires it
[07:22] <nastas> domino14: so so far the sd card was able to mount-unmount?
[07:22] <kazagistar> Xfact: I have a server that is
[07:22] <Kieran0413> The only thing I find really useful in compiz is altering window transparency with the scroll wheel
[07:22] <iflema> ooh correction = sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:22] <isolat3dsh33p> kazagistar: but I like the wobble
[07:22] <Kieran0413> Saves switching windows to useless conversations and makes reading while doing other things easier :)
[07:23] <Xfact> flannel: I have doubt, there are 1298 people in this room currently, only 2 people respond!
[07:23] <domino14> nastas: the drive itself seemed to mount when i booted up, then i put in a card, and the light lit up, so i tried to double click on the SD/MMC/etc icon and nothing happens when i double click
[07:23] <domino14> so i clicked unmount and it went away and now wont come back, the light on the drive wont light up anymore
[07:23] <isolat3dsh33p> Xfact: that's normal :)
[07:24] <kazagistar> isolat3dsh33p: all the distortions are done with raster graphics and look terrible, imho
[07:24] <nastas> domino14: please paste in pastebin the output of the command lspci -vv
[07:24] <Xfact> isolat3dsh33p:  yes...because only very few people using 8.04 LTS with me....
[07:24] <isolat3dsh33p> Xfact: Not, really. If you stay longer, you'll find more friends. :)
[07:24] <Xfact> Horrible! I have to change...my version and I have lots data in 8.04, what shpuld I do? :(
[07:25] <daltio> any one works on ubuntu 9.10
[07:25] <papul> is there any way to paste output in pastebin directly thru terminal
[07:25] <daltio> i installed now i want to update it through my debain etch apt-proxy
[07:25] <nastas> Xfact: in my desctop i made a step by step upgrade to 9.04
[07:25] <Xfact> Ok anybody using Ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 in this room?
[07:25] <daltio> it hangs
[07:25] <kazagistar> Xfact: most of the people in this room are not paying any attention to what is going on
[07:25] <isolat3dsh33p> kazagistar: looks fine with me. :)
[07:25] <Xepera> kazagistar: true.
[07:25] <Kieran0413> Xfact, this is why it's a good idea to have your /home on a separate partition, for future reference
[07:26] <mneptok> Xfact: you can preserve your home when installing
[07:26] <NoCode> Should I remove pulseaudio in karmic?
[07:26] <Xfact> Kieran0413:  I don't knew the idea when I installed so now having problem :(
[07:26] <isolat3dsh33p> NoCode: No, unless you want to
[07:26] <Xfact> can i install ubuntu 9.10 and 8.04 in a same partition?
[07:26] <Xepera> NoCode: for what?
[07:26] <nastas> Xfact: in my case i didn't lost any data but it still little bit risky. that's why Kieran0413 is right. seperate /home partition is the best
[07:26] <Xfact> I think that will totally mess up!
[07:27] <domino14> nastas: http://pastebin.com/m4983f54f
[07:27] <NoCode> Well, I'm not using pulseaudio now anyway. I've killed it, and just using alsa at the moment
[07:27] <isolat3dsh33p> NoCode: You mean « killall pulseaudio » ?
[07:27] <kazagistar> Xfact: my usual strategy is to save the entire filesystem to my external hard drive (having a backup is always good) and then grab back whatever folders I need from there after installing
[07:27] <iflema> Xfact: the install cd allows ya to resize partitions...
[07:28] <greezmunkey> what's going on, I wasn't paying any attention...
[07:28] <Xfact> can i install ubuntu 9.10 and 8.04 in a same partition? (I think it's very bad idea, cause for having common folders it'll mess everything up!)
[07:28] <iflema> Xfact: if ya wanna resize try gparted live
[07:28] <NoCode> isolat3dsh33p, yes
[07:28] <iflema> Xfact: back up
[07:28] <Xfact> ok only HOMe needed to be backed up?
[07:28] <cryingfreeman> I run Jaunty, since Karmic doesn't play well with my computer, and i need a VPN-client that supports one time passwords (OTP). I came across this http://blog.cyphermox.net/2008/10/call-for-testing-network-manager-vpnc.html and tried to install via his PPA, but it requires gtk 2.17+ which i don't have installed. Are there any other way in which i can get this installed, like from backports? Is there OTP-support in the net
[07:28] <cryingfreeman> work-manager in karmic?
[07:29] <iflema> Xfact you may be able to resize and squeeze in another..... but put it after the other ubuntu
[07:29] <kazagistar> Xfact: indeed, it is a bad idea... you could update, though
[07:29] <Kieran0413> cryingfreeman, it's for network-manager, so I doubt it'll be much help without gtk
[07:30] <isolat3dsh33p> NoCode: it should be restarted. « pidof -x pulseaudio » should give you some numbers ;)
[07:30] <Xfact>  kazagistar: you can understand reaching 9.10 from 8.04 is a long way!
[07:30] <nastas> isolat3dsh33p: can you do me a favor? check domino14's link in pastebin. i don't see the mass storage nowhere. it should be there right?
[07:30] <Xfact>  kazagistar: 8.10>9.04 then 9.10! (looong update)!
[07:31] <kazagistar> Xfact: true... you could wait until 10.4 in 4 months... then there will be a direct update path
[07:31] <Crash2108> Anyone here ever use GPSd?
[07:31] <cryingfreeman> keiran0413: that much i understand, ;) I just wonder if there is any way of getting OTP in network-manager without upgrading to karmic?
[07:31] <tainz> test
[07:32] <Kieran0413> cryingfreeman, Apologies, I misunderstood you.
[07:32] <cryingfreeman> keiran0413: or if it even has OTP-support in the karmic version of network manager..
[07:32] <techgeek> im trying to get my wireless card working with the atheros chipset following the instructions on madwifi wiki, Im trying to apt-get the linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) but apt cant find the package. Is this package not available anymore for karmic?
[07:32] <Xfact> kazagistar: but I also think, when 10.04 will out in directly updating then is also a bad idea, cause for having very first release it may have lots of bug!
[07:32] <cryingfreeman> kieran0413: no worries. i was a bit vague.. :)
[07:33] <domino14> nastas: thanks for looking into it. maybe since i unmounted it it went away?
[07:34] <kazagistar> Xfact: 9.10 has only been out for 2 months... Ubuntu tends to be decently stable straight after beta
[07:34] <isolat3dsh33p> nastas: i think it should be « fdisk -l »
[07:35] <nastas> techgeek: in your software sources you might not have checked the restricted and multiverse
[07:35] <isolat3dsh33p> kazagistar: 9.10 is just a beta for 10.04 ;)
[07:35] <Flannel> Xfact: Please take non-support related chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[07:35] <NoCode> isolat3dsh33p, haha it did. :D
[07:36] <NoCode> Anyway, I need to go sleep.
[07:36] <nastas> isolat3dsh33p: i mean the device. not the card. the card is not mounted. but i can't see the mass storage section
[07:36] <Xfact> kazagistar: I can't say 9.10 is totally stable yet, because many people having some problem with it heard, I am also having some!
[07:36] <kazagistar> !test
[07:36] <isolat3dsh33p> nastas: I'm not sure then ;)
[07:36] <kazagistar> Flannel is the new ubottu!
[07:36] <nastas> isolat3dsh33p: ok
[07:37] <Xfact> Flannel:  I apologise, but I think you should look at my conversation carefully...I am talking about 'support'
[07:37] <nastas> techgeek: still out there? :
[07:37] <techgeek> the main and restricted sources are checked
[07:37] <Ferrenrock> anyone know of a gui app that throttles the badwidth of virtual hosts, users, leechers, etc? like a linux version of zonealarm
[07:38] <Flannel> Xfact: You can wait for a few months (or a year even) after 10.04 is released to upgrade, you don't have to do it right away.
[07:39] <Kieran0413> Ferrenrock, You'd probably be best googling for an iptables gui
[07:39] <Ferrenrock> Kieran0413: I've been looking for one
[07:39] <star3am> Ferrenrock check out FIREHOL !
[07:39] <Ferrenrock> star3am: what's that?
[07:40] <chilli0> Herro
 firewall, using iptables, but simplified, it's really awesome !
 firehol.sourceforge.net
[07:40] <Ferrenrock> star3am: does it show like all existing connections at once?
[07:40] <chilli0> Hi accedently removed my top pannel and I cant get all the stuff back , How can I get sound and the network connections back ?
[07:40] <x1r3> I enabled the 3d bow in compiz but it doesnt work how do i enable 3d graphics
[07:40] <Crash2108> How do I expose the HDD's accelerometer?
[07:41] <Ferrenrock> or at least tell me which one takes up the most?
 for that you'd have to use netstat -l or something like ntop :)
[07:41] <Ferrenrock> star3am: ntop?
 network top, with rrd graphs and charts about connections and ports on your machine
[07:43] <Ferrenrock> star3am: that's what I'm thinking of. Is there an app that has that integrated with other firewall apps?
[07:43] <Kieran0413> Ferrenrock, You'd probably just have to create your firewall rules based on that.
 uhm, trying to think of the name of this one live CD
[07:44] <Crash2108> Why does my ubuntu sometimes freeze?
[07:44] <Ferrenrock> star3am: something like backtrack?
[07:44] <Kieran0413> Crash2108, That's a little ambiguous
[07:45] <Crash2108> I know.  Is there a way to know?  Troubleshooting?  It's pretty random.
[07:45] <Kieran0413> Ferrenrock, back track is a pentesting distro, you'd probably be looking at something like smoothwall or pfsense
[07:45] <Crash2108> But it might have something to do with my Globetrotter GSM HSo drivers.
 I saw this live CD once, I think it was a google project, that is firewall and gateway in one
[07:46] <Ferrenrock> Kieran0413: ah ok
 got like red and gray rrd graphs, but i cannot remember the name, it was awesome though
[07:46] <Ferrenrock> star3am: can you remember anything like it?
 hold on, let me phone a friend
[07:47] <Lostinspace_46> I attempted to make a personal repository on my computer using the tut located here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal. However, the command "update-mydebs" does not work.  Could someone take a quick look, and maybe figure out why?
 pfsense !
[07:49] <kazagistar> Ferrenrock: I use DDWRT on my router for QoS... probably not an option for you, though
 http://www.pfsense.org/ check that out dude, it's really, REALLY awesome
[07:49] <nastas> Lostinspace_46: what exaclty you mean it doesn't work? is there any error?
[07:50] <Kieran0413> Ferrenrock, just to clarify, you'd have to run it as your gateway/router on a spare machine, probably isn't what you're looking for.
[07:50] <Lostinspace_46> nastas> Oops, sorry, yes it says command not found
[07:50] <fivetwentysix> Anyone experienced with Openoffice Math? My formulas aren't display the results. For example, =(19+17)% will display as is and not the result, however if I copy and paste that cell in to another application, the result comes out.
[07:50] <Ferrenrock> star3am: wow
[07:50] <Ferrenrock> damn
[07:50] <Ferrenrock> this is good
[07:51] <Jkessler> fivetwentysix: OpenOffice Math doesn't calculate
[07:51] <fivetwentysix> err the spreadsheet
[07:51] <Xfact> What is 'Universe'? is that any supporting file for ubuntu?
 :) nice one ! dude, ya it's simple and very effective, just run that on your gateway box, and marvel at the open source genious
[07:51] <Kieran0413> Xfact, it's a repository for installing software
[07:51] <Shwack> How do I add somebody else's public signature so I can send them encrypted PGP mail? I just created my key.
[07:51] <nastas> Lostinspace_46: did you do exactly what the how to say?
[07:51] <CorpX> hey guys need some help. i'm dual booting xp and ubuntu.  when it comes to the startup screen which asks to pick OS, it doesnt recognize my wireless keyboard
[07:51] <Xfact> kieran: thanks ....
[07:52] <CorpX> so it always boots into ubuntu by default
[07:52] <Lostinspace_46> nastas> Twice, actually
[07:52] <plustax2> Hi I downloaded a theme for emerald theme manager and imported it. I double click it and the theme doesnt change. Anyone help me out?
[07:52] <Ferrenrock> star3am: alright I'll check this out
[07:52] <Ferrenrock> thanks
[07:52] <CorpX> is there any way i can restart into windows once im at the ubuntu desktop?
 np
[07:52] <fivetwentysix> Jkessler: I meant Calc
[07:52] <nastas> Lostinspace_46: while doing this (twice) did you get any error?
[07:52] <Kieran0413> CorpX, that's likely just a product of using the wireless keyboard, some are a bit funky and don't act as a simple HID device so you need to boot for them to be recognised
 check out Sun Virtualbox (Y)
[07:52] <Shwack> How do I add somebody else's public signature so I can send them encrypted PGP mail? I just created my key.
[07:53] <Lostinspace_46> nastas> only when I run "update-mydebs
[07:53] <Kieran0413> CorpX, ie, not much you can do about it.
[07:53] <kazagistar> Ferrenrock: yeah, BSD tends to have slick networking, including networking security and features that are missing in the linux kernel
[07:53] <plustax2> can anyone help me out?
[07:53] <CorpX> so once in ubuntu, is there any way to make the next reboot go into windows?
[07:53] <Jkessler> fivetwentysix:  are your cells formatted correctly?
[07:54] <CorpX> star3am, its an old pc so i dont think it could handle virtualization
[07:54] <plustax2> Hi I downloaded a theme for emerald theme manager and imported it. I double click it and the theme doesnt change. Anyone help me out?
[07:54] <Kieran0413> kazagistar, ie a firewall that isn't a giant pain in the rear end :D going from pf to iptables is....disturbing :D
[07:54] <fivetwentysix> Jkessler: What do you mean? Doing default formatting doesn't change anything.
[07:54] <x1r3> I am trying to enable "extra" in Appearance Preferences but it wont enable can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction?
[07:54] <fivetwentysix> Jkessler: Except the appearance.
[07:54] <Lostinspace_46> fivetwentysix> Did you make sure to get ALL the files for Office?  I believe the repos doesn't have them all
[07:55] <plustax2> Hi I downloaded a theme for emerald theme manager and imported it. I double click it and the theme doesnt change. Anyone help me out?
[07:55] <Lostinspace_46> fivetwentysix> Like calc-base
[07:55] <isolat3dsh33p> x1r3, check your graphic driver.
[07:55] <fivetwentysix> Lostinspace_46: Yes, it calculated before but then I changed some background colors and formatting stuff and it won't calculate my forumulas now
[07:55] <Jkessler> fivetwentysix:  no, i mean you can format the cells to show dates, currency, text, number
[07:55] <Jkessler> fivetwentysix:  it could be formatted to text when you want number possibly?  i don't know what else it would be
[07:56] <Lostinspace_46> fivetwentysix> Ahh, then listen to jkessler :)