[06:43] <Mirv> didrocks: btw was the bamf/precise ok for uploading now?
[06:44] <didrocks> Mirv: well, I think you saw the activity about the other issues that I was kind of alone to deal with :) so not on the bamf thingy yet until we are fine on doing one unity release
[06:45] <Mirv> didrocks: sure, sure, no hurry
[06:45] <didrocks> Mirv: don't worry, you are in my opened tabs! Can you ask me again at the EOW please for safety? :)
[06:45] <Mirv> the big milestone is most important to achieve
[06:45] <Mirv> I hope your browser never crashes in a way that it loses tabs ;)
[06:45] <Mirv> EOW ok
[06:46] <didrocks> Mirv: well, it happens sometimes ;)
[06:46] <didrocks> Mirv: but TBH, I think I can reopen most of them by the history
[06:47] <didrocks> of course, there are maybe some collateral damage ):
[06:47] <didrocks> hence pinging back is nice!
[06:47] <didrocks> Mirv: oh, can you install ~ubuntu-unity/daily-build ppa please?
[06:47] <didrocks> (on raring of course)
[06:47] <didrocks> and shout if anything ugly happens?
[06:56] <Mirv> didrocks: will do
[07:07] <didrocks> smspillaz: FYI, there is no pressure from distro at all about this libmetacity thing
[07:30] <didrocks> mmrazik: I think not all projects are restarted yet, some approved stalled
[07:30] <didrocks> like on unity (https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/ups-empty-menu/+merge/136828)
[07:30] <mmrazik> didrocks: not sure what you mean by restarted but there was some power outage yesterday (again)
[07:30] <didrocks> maybe the things approved during the shutdown?
[07:30] <mmrazik> didrocks: its building
[07:30] <didrocks> ok :)
[07:30] <didrocks> just the backlog was too big?
[07:30] <didrocks> after the power outage
[07:30] <didrocks> or did you have to kick it to restart after this?
[07:31] <mmrazik> didrocks: I had to kick it after the restart. Something got suck there blocking everything else
[07:31] <mmrazik> didrocks: right now nux and compiz and unity are building
[07:31] <mmrazik> and there are 3 more builds for compiz queued
[07:31] <didrocks> mmrazik: excellent, then I can try to do a manual release :)
[07:32] <didrocks> which should unblock the universe and nexus 7 :p
[07:32] <mmrazik> didrocks: the compiz branches need to land in sequence so I think it will take a few hours...
[07:32] <didrocks> mmrazik: ok, no worry
[07:38] <smspillaz> didrocks: k, thx
[08:21] <Mirv> didrocks: so far so good with ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build on raring, not seeing anything out of place or crashing
[08:22] <didrocks> Mirv: sweet! do you see close button when you scale an app?
[08:22] <didrocks> like open 2 nautilus windows
[08:22] <didrocks> click on the launcher
[08:22] <didrocks> normally when you hover the 2 windows opened, you can see the close button
[08:22] <Mirv> didrocks: yes, I see it
[08:22] <Mirv> and it works
[08:22] <didrocks> interesting, for me, they work but I don't see them :)
[08:23] <didrocks> thanks Mirv! Do not hesitate if you see anything bad
[08:23] <Mirv> sure, I'll let you know immediately if I notice something bad
[08:46] <popey> didrocks, i get a close button, but on the foreground window I also see the titlebar with the buttons in the titlebar of the hovered app.. sometimes.. hard to trigger http://popey.com/~alan/titlebar.png
[08:46] <didrocks> popey: ah, even funnier :)
[08:46] <davidcalle> popey, confirming
[08:46] <didrocks> I wonder why I don't get the close button at all
[08:46] <didrocks> ever never ever
[08:46] <didrocks> hey davidcalle!
[08:46] <didrocks> davidcalle: can you please install ~ubuntu-unity/daily-build
[08:46] <popey> thats a guest session though.. dunno if that makes a difference?
[08:46] <didrocks> and warn/poke me if anything bad is happening :)
[08:46] <didrocks> popey: let me try
[08:47] <popey> open two nautilus, then open a terminal and close the terminal, then click nautilus in launcher
[08:47] <popey> seems to reproduce it
[08:48] <didrocks> popey: it is indeed working in a guest session
[08:48] <davidcalle> didrocks, hey. Ok.
[08:48] <didrocks> popey: I tried what you say, but doesn't reproduce
[08:48] <didrocks> davidcalle: thanks! (on raring ;))
[08:49] <popey> yeah, it doesn't always happen
[08:49] <didrocks> let's hunt for Trevinho once he's around :)
[08:49] <popey> roger roger
[08:49] <didrocks> but not a first daily-release blocker
[08:49] <popey> nah
[08:49] <didrocks> (I'm not relying on autopilot for it yet though, hence the dogfooding)
[08:49]  * popey hunts for more
[08:49] <didrocks> heh ;)
[08:51] <popey> didrocks, http://popey.com/~alan/unreadable_close.png
[08:51] <popey> bottom right window, the close button overlay is unreadable
[08:52] <didrocks> ah, so not he back black fake title bar
[08:52] <popey> yeah
[08:53] <popey> seems not to resize properly
[08:53] <didrocks> there is really something… some elements don't appear randomly
[08:53] <didrocks> popey: oh it doesn't resize
[08:53] <didrocks> popey: it's a fake, it overlays :p
[08:53] <popey> ah, thats why you can see through on my first screenshot then, yes
[08:53] <didrocks> yeah
[08:53] <popey> its just not appearing
[08:53] <didrocks> I thought it was opaque
[08:53] <didrocks> but it's not :)
[08:54] <popey> whenever i want to open shotwell from the dash, it wants me to buy shot glasses, this can't be good for me
[08:54] <didrocks> popey: ahah, you can argue "but but, it was proposed to me, I needed them for sure!" :)
[08:54] <popey> true!
[08:54] <popey> blame mark
[08:55] <popey> there's a lawsuit in there somewhere
[08:55] <didrocks> heh
[09:02] <popey> didrocks, open two apps, one full screen (e.g. shotwell) and another windowed (e.g. gimp). Click shotwell in launcher, get shotwell full screen. Want to go to a menu in gimp, click gimp in launcher, gimp comes to front. Now without clicking on the gimp window at all, hover over the menu bar, it flicks back to shotwell..
[09:02] <popey> (if you click on the menu)
[09:02] <popey> annoying but not a showstopper IMO
[09:03] <didrocks> popey: convoluted enough to not be a showstopper I guess :) but worth a bug and a ping to bregma :)
[09:28] <didrocks> FYI all: unity stack rebuild for first release into raring in progress :)
[09:29] <duflu> didrocks: My preview of it looks like the old one, minus bugs. But that's good :)
[09:30] <didrocks> duflu: heh, sweet! :)
[13:15] <Trevinho> popey: mhmh... weird
[13:18] <Trevinho> popey, didrocks: never got it here... Mhmhm... the first one it's just probably an opacity issue... But the 2nd...
[13:19] <didrocks> Trevinho: I never have the close buttons here
[13:19] <Trevinho> popey: do you get issues also on the Alt+Tab spread? (i.e. doing Alt+` or alt+tab + down-arrow)?
[13:19] <didrocks> Trevinho: clicking on where they are supposed to be works though
[13:19] <Trevinho> didrocks: mhmh... it could be a problem related to textures loading, I've heard something related to that some time ago
[13:19] <popey> Trevinho, no, spread is fine
[13:20] <popey> this is an intel hd2000 video card, so low-end i7
[13:20] <Trevinho> popey: wierd, it's really the same code-path
[13:20] <didrocks> Trevinho: how can I give you the debug info you need? :)
[13:23] <Trevinho> didrocks: try to put a SetupSharedTextures() above the line with "switch (close_icon_state_)"...
[13:24] <didrocks> Trevinho: will do, not right now as I'm releasing unity, but after, I'll give it a shot :)
[13:39] <didrocks> mmrazik: sil2100: hey, do you know where the autopilot tests results are stored?
[14:23] <mmrazik> didrocks: srry.. missed this again. What do you mean where they are stored. The physical xml files?
[14:23] <didrocks> mmrazik: yeah, once autopilot ran
[14:24] <didrocks> on the machine
[14:24] <mmrazik> didrocks: ~jenkins/results/testresults
[14:24] <didrocks> mmrazik: thanks :)
[14:26] <didrocks> fginther: hey! oh, it seems you implemented the fact to merge the changelog-change only without a rebuild, right?
[14:27] <mmrazik> didrocks: I don't think so as I didn't see any MP....
[14:28] <didrocks> mmrazik: hum? weird that's it's merging all my MP for the unity release blazing fast then
[14:28] <didrocks> mmrazik: even if I sent 10 of them
[14:28] <fginther> didrocks, no, that was put on the todo list as it was not a blocker...
[14:28] <mmrazik> didrocks: I was surprised too
[14:28] <didrocks> so you have maybe another issue where the package isn't built? :p
[14:28] <fginther> didrocks, this is for lp:unity?
[14:29] <didrocks> the whole stack
[14:29] <mmrazik> fginther: I checked the logs (randomly). The build is there
[14:31] <fginther> didrocks, the lens generally build in under 10 minutes
[14:31] <didrocks> yeah, but seeing the amount of requests I had, I'm *shocked* (in the good way ;))
[14:31] <fginther> :-)
[14:46] <didrocks> fginther: mmrazik: seems the bamf test is flacky again
[14:46] <didrocks> I'll merge the changelog by end if you don't mind
[14:47] <fginther> didrocks, grumble, I'll ping somebody about that bamf bug again
[14:48] <didrocks> fginther: thanks, workaround meanwhile :)
[14:56] <fginther> Trevinho, ping
[14:56] <Trevinho> fginther: pong
[14:57] <fginther> Trevinho, can you find someone to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bamf/+bug/1079329?  It's become a blocker for autolanding bamf
[14:59] <Trevinho> fginther: I see there was someone working onit
[15:00] <Trevinho> fginther: ah, probably you was :)
[15:00] <oml> hello everyone. im trying to figure out how unity works on a broad scale, which processes start the others, how they communicate etc. currently im digging through the src-package of unity and try to understand what "UBusMessage.h" does, or the ubus-server
[15:00] <oml> naming reminds one of dbus, does ubus work the same way? or does it something entirely else?
[15:00] <Trevinho> fginther: isn't your way working?
[15:01] <fginther> Trevinho, I tried a couple of experiments, but ran into another problem
[15:01] <fginther> I'll try to find a log
[15:04] <fginther> Trevinho, here's a log from one of my tests: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1412623/
[15:38] <Trevinho> fginther: can't we just ignore the return value of kill?
[15:40] <fginther> Trevinho, there shouldn't be any harm. I can give it a try
[15:42] <fginther> Trevinho, do you know what causes the "WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."?
[15:42] <Trevinho> fginther: I think it's caused by the fact that running the test in a fake xserver the atk bus is not present
[16:06] <mmrazik> didrocks: FYI -- the nux build takes ~4h (due to arm). Your branch is building, it will just take some time
[16:06] <didrocks> mmrazik: no worry, thanks!
[16:11] <mmrazik> I'll move the builds to pandas tomorrow
[16:31] <MCR1> didrocks: Hi. Are you sure all build-dep are now in lp:unity ? The last time I tried to get the build-dep, the build was failing, because libxcb-dri2-0-dev was missing...
[16:31] <didrocks> MCR1: well, it's building on the ppa :)
[16:31] <MCR1> yeah, sure... but still strange...
[16:36] <MCR1> smspillaz: Hi :) 1. Thanx 4 the reviews. 2. Q: Do you think it might make sense to use register int iterators for huge for loops ?
[16:37] <didrocks> mterry: I just pushed that to distro, quick review? https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/bamf/remove-unexisting-dep/+merge/138242
[16:46] <didrocks> mterry: oh, btw, you need to change the global status for https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity/refresh-build-deps/+merge/138227
[16:46] <didrocks> approving in a comment isn't enough
[17:02] <didrocks> sil2100: can you change the global status as well? :)
[17:02] <sil2100> didrocks: ok ;)
[17:02] <didrocks> thanks!
[17:02]  * sil2100 wanted to give some time for someone else to ACK it as well ;p
[17:03] <sil2100> But this is an obvious change
[17:03] <didrocks> yep :)
[17:03] <sil2100> Something that was bothering everyone since looong time
[17:58] <smspillaz> MCR1: not really, as daneil said micro-optimizations don't help much
[17:58] <MCR1> yeah, probably you are right
[17:59] <smspillaz> MCR1: the best thing to do if you want to improve performance is to do profile guided optimization
[17:59] <MCR1> I saw your new branch (actually I am testing it)
[17:59] <MCR1> Top news !
[17:59] <smspillaz> eg, run it through callgrind
[17:59] <MCR1> 20->30 == + 50%
[17:59] <MCR1> that sounds great
[17:59] <smspillaz> MCR1: actually, I just found the cause of the extremely poor performance when moving opengl windows around
[17:59] <MCR1> yeah
[18:00] <smspillaz> 1) unfortunately its not easy to fix and 2) I really think nvidia should just fix it on their end, there's no reason why it should be like that
[18:00] <MCR1> I am using ATI (currently with latest fglrx)...
[18:01] <MCR1> but window moving is not fully smooth here either
[18:01] <smspillaz> yeah I think fglrx sends theiir command stream over the protocol too
[18:01] <smspillaz> MCR1: try commenting out line 848 in plugins/composite/src/screen.cpp  too
[18:02] <smspillaz> I think that's the only other point where do a flush/wait lots
[18:02] <MCR1> with framebuffer object enabled it stutters more than without, where it is almost fully smooth (with some minor pulsing)
[18:02] <smspillaz> MCR1: which card did you have ?
[18:02] <MCR1> with both fglrx and gallium
[18:02] <MCR1> HD 5750
[18:02] <smspillaz> MCR1: resolution ?
[18:02] <MCR1> 1920x1200+1280x1024
[18:03] <MCR1> or 1920x1200+1920x1080
[18:03] <smspillaz> wouldn't be suprised if we were maxing out the fillrate
[18:04] <smspillaz> unfortunately there's not much we can do - getVideoSync / waitVideoSync require you to block the graphics pipeline and glXSwapBuffers necessarily means that you have to redraw the entire backbuffer on every frame
[18:04] <smspillaz> DRI3 will help that a lot
[18:04] <MCR1> How can I force the compiled Compiz in the staging dir force to use my config ?
[18:04] <smspillaz> MCR1: did you actually install it anywhere ?
[18:04] <smspillaz> or are you just running it from /src/
[18:04] <MCR1> yes to staging
[18:04] <smspillaz> cause that won't work
[18:04] <smspillaz> compiz --replace ccp ?
[18:04] <MCR1> installed
[18:04] <smspillaz> or at least
[18:05] <smspillaz> PATH=/home/user/staging compiz --replace ccp &
[18:05] <smspillaz> might need to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH too
[18:06] <MCR1> ah, maybe that is what I'm missing as CCSM opens with all my settings correctly enabled, but the freshly compiled Compiz runs without them...
[18:06] <MCR1> so it is hard to compare the performance
[18:06] <smspillaz> #1 reason why I hate fixing performance things
[18:06] <smspillaz> "I made it go from 20FPS to 30FPS!"
[18:07] <smspillaz> "still too slow not fixed"
[18:08] <MCR1> 20->30 sounds awesome
[18:08] <smspillaz> time for me to sleep though
[18:09] <smspillaz> I'll have a look into the opengl related thing tomorrow, I have an idea for that maybe it will work maybe it wont
[18:09] <MCR1> hmm, strange - I've set LD_LIBRARY_PATH...
[18:10] <MCR1> I will retry forcing compiz to load all plugins
[18:16] <MCR1> haha, I've started the wrong CCSM...
[19:53] <mdeslaur> MCR1: hi! What would it take to bribe you into fixing one of my pet-peeve compiz bugs? :)
[19:53] <mdeslaur> MCR1: bug 1037164
[20:18] <MCR1> mdeslaur: How do you "snap it" ? Via keyboard or mouse ?
[20:18] <mdeslaur> oh, I just drag the terminal to the right edge of the screen, and it sticks to the edge
[20:19] <mdeslaur> it's the default compiz snapping windows plugin
[20:19] <mdeslaur> but even if I disable that plugin, as long as the window is a few pixels close to the edge of the screen, it happens
[20:19] <mdeslaur> MCR1: are you not able to reproduce it?
[20:19] <MCR1> hmm, I was not aware that there are still problems with mouse snapped windows...
[20:20] <MCR1> I have to try in a VM
[20:20] <MCR1> it is Grid you are talking about
[20:21] <mdeslaur> no, not grid
[20:21] <seb128> MCR1, it's trivial to trigger, go to a ws, snap something to the right of the screen, go back to ws1, click on it in the unity launcher
[20:21] <seb128> the win is moved a bit over
[20:21] <mdeslaur> as long as a window is within a few pixels from the right edge of workspace 2, the problem happens
[20:21] <seb128> so you have a border on ws1 and the remaining part where you were
[20:23] <MCR1> mdeslaur, seb128: Uh, not nice indeed...
[20:25] <MCR1> Indeed, grid is not needed to trigger the bug...
[20:31] <mdeslaur> MCR1: there seems to be some details in one of the duplicate bugs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/834248/comments/29
[20:32] <MCR1> mdeslaur: Yeah, that seems very useful indeed. :)
[20:40] <MCR1> mdeslaur: I can reproduce the issue running yesterday's Raring in a VM, but not when using my 4x1 config.
[20:41] <mdeslaur> interesting
[20:42] <MCR1> But I can also reproduce it using Raring and 4x1 desktop config
[20:44] <MCR1> haha, I never saw this bug before, because I've deactivated Desktop Wall
[20:50] <mdeslaur> I've been hitting it 20 times a day since natty :P
[20:50] <mdeslaur> it's diving me insane :P
[20:51] <MCR1> Sure, the worst things are windows that jump around on their own...
[20:52] <MCR1> You could ofc workaround this special bug, by disabling Desktop Wall and working with the Cube and Expo instead
[20:53] <MCR1> but you would have to change your config quite a bit and change workspaces from 2x2 to 4x1...
[20:53] <MCR1> ofc fixing this bug would be a lot better
[20:53] <mdeslaur> hrm, yeah...it's bad that it's been broken this long in the default configuration
[20:56] <MCR1> the problem is that bugs of this kind seem to be extremely hard to fix - but I'll try (I am currently working on bug 1082001 which is also making windows move across workspaces)
[20:57] <MCR1> This one kills grid keyboard functionality if one wants to work with different workspaces...
[21:11] <mdeslaur> ah, another nice one :)
[21:34] <fginther> bschaefer, can you recommend someone to review this: https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/nux/add-code-coverage/+merge/138007
[21:35] <bschaefer> fginther, I can look at it...I don't think any other people are around for nux...possibly andyrock :)
[21:36] <fginther> bschaefer, it's not urgent, so if it's better that someone review it tomorrow, I'm fine with that
[21:37] <bschaefer> fginther, alright, well if I can test it, and check things are still working with nux I can approve it :)
[21:37] <fginther> bschaefer, cool!
[21:38] <MCR1> mdeslaur: Time for a test ?
[21:38] <mdeslaur> MCR1: sure!
[21:39] <MCR1> please create a directory named compiz-1 in ~
[21:39] <bschaefer> fginther, so this is for jenkins to get reports from nux pretty much?
[21:39] <mdeslaur> MCR1: ok
[21:39]  * bschaefer hopes he has gcov
[21:39] <MCR1> in compiz-1 create another directory called plugins
[21:39] <fginther> bschaefer, that's the goal, a developer can also run coverage-html to get their own results
[21:40] <bschaefer> fginther, cool, ill do that to test it out, and run some other tests
[21:40] <bschaefer> fginther, it doesn't seem like this touches other code, or really effects nux unless you have --enable-gcov which is good
[21:42] <MCR1> mdeslaur: Download this file: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1037164/+attachment/3452533/+files/libwall.so and put it in ~/compiz-1/plugins
[21:43] <MCR1> mdeslaur: Now open a terminal and run setsid unity (be sure you are using 12.10 ?)
[21:44] <mdeslaur> yes, I'm on 12.10
[21:44] <MCR1> ok
[21:45] <MCR1> please test and report
[21:45] <mdeslaur> same thing, unfortunately...how do I tell it actually loaded that file?
[21:46] <bschaefer> fginther, Scanning . for .gcda files ...
[21:46] <bschaefer> geninfo: ERROR: no .gcda files found in .!
[21:46] <bschaefer> should I be doing something else before doing coverage-html?
[21:46] <MCR1> if you ran setsid unity it will load the file (be sure that it is in yourhomedir/compiz-1/plugins)
[21:47] <mdeslaur> yes, it's there
[21:47] <fginther> bschaefer, did you do 'make check' or 'make check-headless' first?
[21:47] <bschaefer> fginther, nope ... let me do that
[21:48] <MCR1> named libwall.so, yes ?
[21:48] <bschaefer> fginther, possibly adding make-check-headless to the coverage-html?
[21:48] <fginther> bschaefer, I open to suggestions if there is a smarter way to do that...
[21:49] <mdeslaur> MCR1: yep
[21:49] <bschaefer> or I suppose that would get run how you'll be doing that
[21:49] <MCR1> grmpf
[21:49] <bschaefer> fginther, hmm
[21:49] <fginther> bschaefer, I didn't want to force 'make check' or 'make check-headless'
[21:49] <bschaefer> yeah
[21:49] <bschaefer> fginther, maybe adding another option that doe force it?
[21:49] <fginther> but it's not obvious how to collect coverage either
[21:50] <bschaefer> make check-coverage-html?
[21:50] <bschaefer> hmm
[21:51] <fginther> bschaefer, I can add some make targets to make it easier
[21:52] <bschaefer> fginther, yeah, as make check or make check-headless needs to be ran before doing the coverage
[21:52] <MCR1> mdeslaur - it is .compiz-1 !!!
[21:52] <fginther> bschaefer, ok, I'll figure something out
[21:52] <bschaefer> fginther, or possibly some how adding an error message
[21:52] <MCR1> he's gone...
[21:52] <bschaefer> if no .gcda files were found...
[21:53] <bschaefer> fginther, or you can make a comment in there, Im not the best with makes files haha
[21:54]  * bschaefer needs to fix the make check FTBS
[21:54] <MCR1> mdeslaur: I was giving you wrong directions
[21:54] <MCR1> mdeslaur: Please rename compiz-1 to .compiz.1 ;)
[21:55] <MCR1> and run setsid unity again - sorry
[21:55] <mdeslaur> .compiz-1 or .compiz.1?
[21:55] <seb128> .compiz-1 no?
[21:55] <MCR1> .compiz-1/plugins
[21:55] <seb128> mdeslaur, just copy over the system .so and restart compiz
[21:55] <MCR1> no need to f*ck up the system
[21:56] <seb128> you can always --reinstall the package to get back to normal state
[21:56] <MCR1> true that
[21:56] <seb128> MCR1, it's easier to cp away and back the system one that to figure the .compiz
[21:58] <MCR1> mdeslaur: Now tell me that it worx
[21:58] <mdeslaur> hah, compiz didn't enjoy me copying over the .so while it was loaded :P
[22:01] <MCR1> bschaefer: Hi, btw ;) I also have (easy) work 4 u...
[22:01] <bschaefer> MCR1, hello, link me
[22:01] <bschaefer> if its a review :)
[22:01] <MCR1> yep, 1. https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-reduce-scope-of-variables.2/+merge/137949
[22:02] <MCR1> 2. https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/nux/nux.merge-reduce-the-scope-of-various-variables/+merge/134787
[22:04] <mdeslaur> MCR1: copiz just dies when trying to open that .so...could you please just give me the patch to try?
[22:04] <bschaefer> MCR1, hmm well I just approved the first one but..hmm
[22:04] <bschaefer> MCR1, 111	[22:05] <bschaefer> you are messing with C files, and the standard for C files are to define things at the top
[22:05] <MCR1> I think it depends if it is C89 or C99, but I can revert the .c file changes
[22:06] <MCR1> but if it complies it worx
[22:06] <bschaefer> MCR1, I think it would be best for the C, and its ansi I believe
[22:06] <bschaefer> but i would prefer to keep to C looking like C
[22:06] <MCR1> bschaefer: ok
[22:06] <bschaefer> MCR1, thank you :)
[22:06] <MCR1> bschaefer: I'll change that then...
[22:07] <MCR1> thanx 4 the review
[22:08] <MCR1> mdeslaur: More or less I tried his solution: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/89746102/fix-762335.patch
[22:08] <mdeslaur> MCR1: and it worked for you?
[22:08] <bschaefer> MCR1, your second one looks good and is approved :)
[22:09] <MCR1> mdeslaur, I did not try yet, as it would mess up my whole config (I am using the cube, not wall those conflict with each other), but I'll try later...
[22:10] <mdeslaur> MCR1: ok, I'll build it locally and try it too
[22:10] <MCR1> bschaefer: For nux not all of the scopes are reduced yet, so there will be a Part 2 ;)
[22:10] <MCR1> mdeslaur: Cool, please report
[22:17] <MCR1> bschaefer: Should be fixed
[22:17] <bschaefer> MCR1, awesome thank you!
[22:18] <MCR1> your fast help is awesome ;)
[22:18] <bschaefer> MCR1, nux needs a bit more help in parts :)
[22:18] <MCR1> you know - I am just a newbie struggling with all this C++ complexity :-D
[22:19] <bschaefer> haha, it takes time
[22:20] <bschaefer> MCR1, also what you think should happen...when you grab a window then use the keyboard to change workspaces?
[22:20] <bschaefer> what do*
[22:20] <bschaefer> just the normal Ctrl+Alt+<arrow>
[22:21] <MCR1> the window should move to the new workspace together with the mousepointer and the new workspace should be selected
[22:21] <MCR1> imho
[22:21] <bschaefer> MCR1, yeah, I find it odd that a huge gab is now present
[22:22] <bschaefer> gap*
[22:22]  * bschaefer looks if a bug for that exists
[22:23] <MCR1> the real problem is that Ctrl+Alt+Cursor + grabbing a window with the mouse is hard to achieve with 2 hands... :P
[22:23] <MCR1> I am really struggling to get this done ;)
[22:23] <bschaefer> haha
[22:24] <bschaefer> i would never imagine it really happening, I was just looking at that other wall/gap bug
[22:24] <MCR1> ah, yeah - the gap
[22:24] <bschaefer> its fixed in 0.9.8, but not in 0.9.7 so im digging through to find what fixed it
[22:24] <bschaefer> to see if it can be backported
[22:25] <MCR1> it is still present here, btw... (without the wall)
[22:25] <bschaefer> MCR1, in 0.9.8?
[22:25] <bschaefer> and with out wall how are you dragging it to another workspace
[22:25] <MCR1> when I grab a window and switch from workspace to workspace to workspace to workspace...
[22:25] <MCR1> I can make the cursor move from its position
[22:25] <bschaefer> MCR1, just dragging it?
[22:26] <MCR1> I am using the cube instead
[22:26] <bschaefer> shoot...I never use that plugin
[22:26] <MCR1> no, dragging on the same workspace is fixed 100%
[22:26] <bschaefer> MCR1, that is what the bug is talking about
[22:26] <bschaefer> open another bug if you could :)
[22:27] <MCR1> maybe this +/- 10 pixel thingy is hidden somewhere else also...
[22:28] <bschaefer> MCR1, hmm well it hasn't reached 0.9.8 yet
[22:28] <bschaefer> so if you bzr branch lp:compiz/0.9.8
[22:28] <bschaefer> the -10 is still there, or at lease it was yesterday
[22:28] <MCR1> I am running trunk of everything (unity staging PPA)
[22:29] <bschaefer> but the problem in 0.9.7 is waaay more then just a -10
[22:29] <bschaefer> it seems to mess up on screen->vp().x()
[22:29] <bschaefer> or it seems to be missing that somewhere
[22:30] <bschaefer> I think it was just backported this morning (for me at lease), the -10 fix
[22:30] <MCR1> I can reliably reproduce it when moving the window to the left from workspace to workspace
[22:30] <MCR1> but not when moving it to the right
[22:30] <bschaefer> just the -10?
[22:30] <bschaefer> just a little at a time
[22:31] <bschaefer> MCR1, it is also UP but not DOWN
[22:31] <bschaefer> that you can do it
[22:31] <bschaefer> (if you are using a 2x2)
[22:31] <MCR1> yes, I am using 4x1 and it is minor and does not happen every time I move to the left...
[22:31] <MCR1> strange indeed
[22:32] <bschaefer> MCR1, it has to be the -10, as after that was removed it was perfect for me
[22:32] <bschaefer> if you grab the top left corner of the window
[22:33] <bschaefer> MCR1, well either way, Im looking for the larger problem :)
[22:34] <bschaefer> the one in 0.9.7
[22:34]  * bschaefer goes off to hunt for it
[22:42] <MCR1> good luck
[22:48] <bschaefer> thanks
[23:24] <krabador> hi, people, have unity some special automatic resolution setting?


[04:45] <diddledan> so just restarted spotify to update it - it looks like the green is somewhat more luminous
[04:53] <zmoylan-pi> or you're hallucinating from lack of sleep...
[04:54] <diddledan> that might be true
[05:02] <zmoylan-pi> this entire irc channel could be a product of your imagination...
[05:05] <diddledan> :-o
[05:07] <zmoylan-pi> your minds way of telling you to run with the bulls in pampolona... here take this red t-shirt :-p
[05:10] <diddledan> that's why startrek uses red shirts!
[05:10] <zmoylan-pi> space bulls
[05:48] <knightwise> morning peeps
[05:48] <diddledan> morning
[06:36] <Knightwork> morning everyone
[07:05] <Knightwork> does anyone know if there is a good voice recorder in Ubuntu Touch ?
[07:05] <diddledan> no idea. I really need to try out touch at some point
[07:06] <Knightwork> I was thinking about using my ubuntu phone as a podcast player recorder
[07:11] <Knightwork> maybe popey knows ...
[07:14] <MooDoo> hello all
[07:19] <diddledan> m00
[07:19] <diddledan> :-p
[07:20] <Knightwork> hey MooDoo , diddledan
[07:26] <Knightwork> any of you hava an ubuntu phone handy ?
[07:26] <MooDoo> not me sorry
[07:26] <Knightwork> I would like to check if there is a voice recording app for ubuntu phone
[08:12] <popey> Knightwork: there is
[08:12] <Knightwork> popey: Wicked !
[08:12] <popey> Knightwork: only does very short duration
[08:12] <popey> notnpodcast size
[08:12] <Knightwork> is it the one that only records for 30 seconds or can you do some longer recordings?
[08:12] <Knightwork> damn :( I was afraid of that
[08:12] <popey> it could be modified probably
[08:13] <popey> victorp: made it
[08:13] <popey> he knows morr
[08:19] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:22] <popey> yo
[08:23] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon popey
[08:24] <brobostigon> morning popey and MooDoo
[08:24] <foobarry> isn't popey on holiday?
[08:24] <popey> he is
[08:24] <brobostigon> shame about the weather.
[08:24] <foobarry> he really knows how to holiday
[08:24] <brobostigon> hanging out on irc.
[08:24] <popey> yeah. 35 degrees or so
[08:25] <popey> just waiting for family to finish getting ready
[08:25] <brobostigon> :)
[08:25] <foobarry> the irc family
[08:25] <popey> then off out
[08:25] <foobarry> hard day by the pool
[08:25] <popey> :)
[08:25] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:25] <foobarry> since having kids i've never had a day by the pool
[08:26] <popey> doing it wrong :)
[08:26] <davmor2> Gangstas Paradise Added to the playlist this morning :)
[08:26] <brobostigon> kindle, cocktail, lounging on the beach.
[08:26] <davmor2> popey: no he means he is banned from all the pools for trying to drown them
[08:26] <bashrc> good moaning
[08:27] <foobarry> don't think i've seen a pool in fact
[08:27] <foobarry> except a rock pool
[08:28] <brobostigon> the closest i have been to a pool recently, was a couple of weeks ago, my gf and her son, going swimming at our local pool.
[08:29] <popey> \o/ everyone ready. off out. l8r...
[08:29] <diddledan> tata
[08:30] <brobostigon> o/
[08:32] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[08:33] <davmor2> MooDoo: me owld mucka, 'ow am ya?
[08:35] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah i'm good thanks :)
[08:37] <davmor2> MooDoo: Morning head songs updated :)
[08:49] <MooDoo> davmor2: I'm listening to your SynthPop playlist
[08:49] <davmor2> MooDoo: that's an album
[08:50] <MooDoo> yeah i'm still listening to that :D
[09:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Pandemonium Day! 😃
[09:09] <diddledan> JamesTait: that sounds like it could be hectic
[09:09]  * davmor2 goes to JamesTait 's Winds his kids up to Hyper Level and waves bye to JamesTait
[09:09] <JamesTait> davmor2, I wouldn't notice the difference.
[09:11]  * davmor2 invites 200 other kids to JamesTait 's
[09:13]  * JamesTait tells the cleaner if any kids turn up she's to direct them to the park at the top of the street.
[09:15] <foobarry> we had to stop our cleaner coming
[09:15] <foobarry> austerity bites
[09:16] <diddledan> manifoldjs.com sounds interesting
[09:16] <brobostigon> isnt that what husbands and bf's are for, cleaning. lolz.
[09:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm telling your wife you call her "our cleaner" lets see what chaos that causes ;)
[09:16] <diddledan> I wonder if there's any chance of getting ubuntu as a supported target
[09:16] <JamesTait> foobarry, it's a one-time luxury, my wife's been working a lot lately.
[09:16] <JamesTait> davmor2, she'd probably say "Ooh, I got a promotion!" 😝
[09:17] <diddledan> is nasa doing a livestream today?
[09:18] <davmor2> JamesTait: hahahahaha
[09:18] <diplo> popey: I've started using Suspend tab thing you've mentioned, do you use any of the excludes as they don't appear to work for me ?
[09:18] <diplo> Ah just read up, gone out :)
[09:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: I got it,  /me turns off JamesTait 's internet connection, now watch mayhem as the air turns black
[09:19] <JamesTait> Hah! ☺  Yeah, that'd do it.
[09:20] <foobarry> diplo: i used it for a while, the exlcudes worked for me
[09:20] <diplo> Hmm, I'll try and work what I've done wrong then, thanks foobarry
[09:21] <diddledan> looks like nasa will be live at 12:30(BST)
[09:21] <foobarry> i stopped using it as it exacerbated my problem. YMMV but i am trying firefox isntead
[09:25] <brobostigon> its a record for me, been with my gf for ten months in two weeks time.
[09:25] <diddledan> \o/
[09:25] <diddledan> well done! :-D
[09:25] <brobostigon> :)
[09:25]  * diddledan jelly
[09:26] <foobarry> ice cream
[09:26] <brobostigon> sprinkles
[09:26] <diddledan> foobarry: drown my sorrows with ice cream, eh? that sounds like a plan
[09:34] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:34] <foobarry> anyone actively using irssi proxy ?
[09:36] <davmor2> Morning bigcalm
[09:36] <davmor2> foobarry: yes
[09:36] <foobarry> work OK? easy to setup?
[09:36] <davmor2> foobarry: bigcalm too I think
[09:36] <foobarry> do notifications get carried across?
[09:36] <foobarry> using irssi notify?
[09:36] <bigcalm> foobarry: I is, yes
[09:37] <davmor2> foobarry: works fine and it is a doddle to setup
[09:37] <bigcalm> foobarry: it's just like being connected directly to an irc server. Everything passes through
[09:37] <davmor2> foobarry: no this is the thing that popey keeps on about
[09:37] <bigcalm> foobarry: I also use awayproxy.pl - it emails me if I'm mentioned or messages when I'm not connected to the proxy
[09:37] <davmor2> foobarry: you would need to run irssi locally and point that at the proxy and have irssi notify on the local box
[09:38] <foobarry> ok
[09:38] <foobarry> i see
[09:38] <foobarry> ta
[09:38] <davmor2> foobarry: however you can have plugins for auto away and emails sent to you for when you get pings etc
[09:39] <bigcalm> I just said that!
[09:39] <foobarry> i think the notifications are probalby most useful on my work PC when i'm multitasking anyway, which is where my irc runs too
[09:39] <foobarry> so i think i will stick to ssh -> screen -d -r
[09:39] <foobarry> when i'm elsewhere
[09:57] <foobarry> pluto just gained 73 miles diameter
[09:57] <diddledan> o_O
[09:57] <foobarry> Mission scientists say it is 1,473 miles in diameter, somewhat larger than many prior estimates of 1,400 miles.
[10:05] <victorp> popey, it would be easier to make a new one
[10:06] <victorp> popey, code --> https://code.launchpad.net/~vtuson/+junk/snaprecorder
[12:59] <diddledan> the data from new horizons will take till november 2016 to fully downlink
[13:00] <zmoylan-pi> all those nasa engineers using netflix and downloading cat videos... :-p
[13:00] <diddledan> lol
[13:00] <diddledan> they bounce netflix off pluto?
[13:01] <zmoylan-pi> it gets around the geo ip :-)
[13:02] <diddledan> lol
[13:02] <diddledan> the geoip reports "earth"
[13:02] <zmoylan-pi> 'earth:mostly harmless' i think you'll find
[13:02] <diddledan> unless they vpn it in which case maybe "sol system"
[13:04] <diddledan> apparently the downlink maxxes out at 4Kbit/s
[13:04] <zmoylan-pi> they should bounce terry pratchetts x-clacks-overhead off it
[13:05] <diddledan> GNU
[13:07] <diddledan> rockets are awesome
[15:44] <lopta> What's the lightest flavour of Ubuntu?
[15:44] <zmoylan-pi> lubuntu i think
[15:44]  * lopta goes to look for it.
[15:45] <zmoylan-pi> if that's too limited then xubuntu
[15:48] <lopta> I've had good experience with Xubuntu in the past. Perhaps I should try lubuntu too, for comparison purposes.
[15:53] <lopta> I'm trying Xubuntu 14.10 while I download lubuntu 15.04. Unlike Windows 10 technical preview, Xubuntu has already recognised the WiFi and second monitor on this laptop.
[15:54] <zmoylan-pi> xubuntu can be made to look and behave a lot like win2000 which was my favourite version of windows
[15:55] <lopta> I'm happy with it looking and behaving like Xubuntu. ;-)
[15:55] <lopta> ...but that may help me get it under the radar at work, for some projects.
[15:56] <zmoylan-pi> oh for that put a rasp pi in a desktop calculator :-)
[15:57] <lopta> zmoylan-pi: I only put my model B away to free up desk space for the laptops I'm potching with now.
[15:58] <lopta> My boss' boss wanted me to try Windows 10 on them just to run an RDP client.
[15:58] <lopta> ...but not all of them are well suited to Windows.
[16:01] <zmoylan-pi> you put... the model b... away... to free up desk space... ::pictures a desk from a dolls house:: :-)
[16:02] <lopta> Well, there's the model B and a USB hub and keyboard and mouse and wires and things and stuff.
[16:03] <lopta> Hmm... the screen went black.
[16:03] <lopta> (both screens)
[16:04] <lopta> Oh, I get it.
[16:04] <lopta> brb
[18:34] <neuro> plamf
[19:55] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[19:56] <MooDoo> howdy bigca
[19:56] <MooDoo> howdy bigcalm
[20:06] <lopta> Let's have another go at installing lubuntu.
[20:06] <lopta> Perhaps I did something wrong.
[20:32] <bujji> hello o/
[20:33] <lopta> hello bujji
[20:33] <bujji> how do you do?
[20:33] <lopta> Good thanks, yourself?
[20:34] <bujji> good))
[20:37] <bujji_> lopta:o/ again
[20:37] <matt_____> hi
[20:37] <bujji_> hi))
[20:37] <matt_____> not sure if i am at the right place!
[20:38] <bujji_> ?
[20:38] <matt_____> i need some technical help?
[20:38] <bujji_> you can ask here
[20:38] <matt_____> great!
[20:38] <matt_____> just installed ubuntu 15.04
[20:39] <matt_____> just a couple of issues
[20:39] <matt_____> 1) system wont start up and shut down correctly
[20:39] <bujji_> go ahead
[20:39] <matt_____> i have to start up using systemctl defaaut
[20:40] <matt_____> and shutting down i have to power the machine off
[20:40] <matt_____> also none of my usb ports are working
[20:44] <matt_____> is there anything that i can try to rectify this?
[20:45] <bujji_> check default run level.
[20:45] <matt_____> ok, how do i do this please
[20:46] <bujji_> who -r
[20:47] <matt_____> is that from the command line? who -r
[20:47] <bujji_> yes
[20:47] <matt_____> what should i expect to return
[20:49] <bujji_> what is the current run level?
[20:49] <matt_____> no idea!!
[20:49] <matt_____> brand new on this os so how do i check current level
[20:50] <bujji_> who -r (or) runlevel type in terminal
[20:51] <matt_____> right i obviously will have to shutdown and restart to get command line unless you know a shortcut?
[20:51] <bigcalm> ctrl+alt+t
[20:52] <bigcalm> That will bring up a terminal window
[20:52] <matt_____> brill if i do that now i wont lose the chat?
[20:52] <bigcalm> Alternatively, ctrl+alt+f1-6 will take you to tty1-6. Use ctrl+alt+f7 to return to the desktop
[20:52] <bujji_> no
[20:53] <matt_____> thanks for that just writing these important shortcuts down!!
[20:53] <matt_____> 1 sec i will go and try
[20:55] <matt_____>  run-level 5  2015-07-14 20:17
[20:57] <bujji_> init 2
[20:57] <matt_____> ?
[20:59] <bujji_> it will change to run level 2
[21:00] <matt_____> ok will that correct my issues?
[21:01] <bujji_> type "lsusb"
[21:02] <bujji_> to see list of usb devices you told tht none of the usbs not working?
[21:58] <EUFIz> to-d-lo
[21:59] <EUFIz> is there a british ubuntu channel?
[22:05] <Myrtti_> that's pretty much what it says on the tin
[22:05] <EUFIz> this is united kingdom channel
[22:07] <Myrtti_> aaaaaannnnddddddd...?
[22:25] <EUFIz> i was looking for the british channel
[22:26] <EUFIz> for one the BBC
[22:26] <EUFIz> its British
[22:27] <EUFIz> its not UK tv
[22:27] <EUFIz> like wise there could be a british ubuntu channel
[22:29] <EUFIz> theres even a BBC computer
[22:35] <zmoylan-pi> ah, but if there were an actual british ubuntu channel it would be so reserved and polite that it would never ADMIT to been the british ubuntu channel... ;-)


[12:05] <jam> anyone around that could review https://github.com/juju/juju/8473 it fixes another intermittent failure
[14:02] <jam> https://github.com/juju/juju/8474 deals with a panic() that happens when a different test fails, which suppresses understanding what the failure was
[20:34] <zeestrat> Anyone got some tips on how to further troubleshoot (or perhaps even fix) https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1755155?
[20:34] <mup> Bug #1755155: charm hook failures after controller model upgrade from 2.1.2 to 2.3.4 <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755155>


[11:39] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:43] <rye> duanedesign, morning!
[11:46] <rye> hm, i wonder how fast will syncdaemon upload linux kernel tree (unpacked) with unleashed queues and concurrent uploads (that's what we have now in trunk)
[11:57] <gord> hi all, someone shared a 14gh folder with me that i pulled down on to my laptop, i would like to get this over to my other computers too but not downloaded from u1 (its 14gb!), any hope there? tried just copying the files over but u1 doesn't like that and tries downloading anyway
[11:59] <rye> verterok, is that possible for syncdaemon not to download the files if there is  no local metadata but their local hashes match ^ ?
[12:00] <verterok> rye: it should work....but if we have a bug it might create conflicts :)
[12:01] <rye> verterok, hmmm
[12:02] <rye> verterok, so you suggest testing and filing bug if that does not work as expected?... ok
[12:02] <verterok> rye: sure, a bug is more than welcome :)
[12:02] <verterok> rye: what I would do is with syncdaemon off copy the files and then start it
[12:02] <rye> verterok, yep, doing exactly that
[12:22] <rye> gord, what ubuntu version are you running?
[12:22] <gord> rye, natty
[12:22] <rye> gord, ok, what's ubuntuone-client version?
[12:23] <gord> 1.5.2-0ubuntu1
[13:05] <alecu> hello world!
[13:07] <nessita> hi alecu!
[13:08] <nessita> alecu: I assigned bug #703343 to you, can you please review it during the day?
[13:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 703343 in ubuntu-sso-client "Ubuntuone fails to prompt for keyring password (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703343
[13:08] <alecu> sure
[13:08] <nessita> thanks!
[13:10] <ralsina> If unity-qt would have the alt-f2 shortcut it would be almost usable :-(
[13:12] <alecu> Hey all, I'm missing some reviews on https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/fix-notification-parameters/+merge/46358
[13:12] <alecu> well, not "some", but "a"
[13:13] <beuno> alecu, looking
[13:13] <alecu> thanks!
[13:14] <beuno> alecu, +1ed
[13:14] <alecu> great, thanks!
[13:55] <ralsina> alecu CardinalFang dobey mandel nessita thisfred vds ping standup in 5'
[13:56] <thisfred> thx
[13:57] <CardinalFang> ralsina, my calendar still says 1 hour from now.  I haven't checked that it's synch'd properly....
[14:00] <alecu> me
[14:00] <ralsina> CardinalFang: hmmm maybe DST or something?
[14:00] <nessita> CardinalFang: maybe your time zone is not set properly? the stand up has been taking place at this time for several weeks now
[14:00] <nessita> me
[14:00] <ralsina> me
[14:01] <CardinalFang> Dunno.
[14:01] <CardinalFang> me
[14:01] <rye> verterok, well, in my test it did not upload the file the second time... hmm
[14:01] <verterok> rye: so, it worked...right?
[14:02] <rye> verterok, yup, 2 generation-aware clients pretend that they are working
[14:02] <nessita> mandel, thisfred, vds, dobey?
[14:02] <thisfred> me
[14:02] <rye> gord, hi again, so, could you please describe your case in more details?
[14:03] <mandel> me
[14:04] <nessita> ralsina: shall we start? I'm kinda in a busy waiting mode waiting for the stand up to occur :-)
[14:04] <ralsina> alecu, start!
[14:04] <alecu> DONE: platform rally, aggregation spec, initial work on syncdaemon to support aggregation, bug 703072, swap day yesterday, reproduced keyring bug 703343 just now
[14:04] <alecu> TODO: work on said keyring bug, backup maverick from lappy and reinstall natty, fight with canonicaladmin (maybe tomorrow?), work on timeouts for aggregator
[14:04] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:04] <alecu> nessita, you
[14:04] <nessita> DONE: platform rally. Most important 'done' items are:
[14:04] <nessita>  * pair designing: meeting with some of the design team members (Ivanka and Otto, mainly). We reviewed mostly the whole control panel UI, work items were written as a result. General opinion was very good, we're on the right track.
[14:04] <nessita>  * meeting with mpt to restart work on tuning fine details for the ussoc UI.
[14:04] <nessita>  * meeting with didrocks to have OneConf using Ubuntu One services such as auth and account info.
[14:04] <nessita>  * meeting with neil, alecu and thisfred to design, review, and re-review U1 unity integration
[14:04] <nessita>  * hacking
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 703072 in ubuntuone-client "Syncdaemon needs to show a notification when a file is published/unpublished (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703072
[14:04] <nessita>  * got u1cp approved into main repo *and* CD! yey!
[14:04] <nessita> TODO: finish pending branches to make u1cp UI better. Talk with verterok and jdo about having 'subscription' for shares. Fix nightlies build, desktop people pointed to the proper fix (thanks seb128!). Ping Chipaca re: bug #690325.
[14:04] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[14:04] <nessita> NEXT: ralsina
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 703343 in ubuntu-sso-client "Ubuntuone fails to prompt for keyring password (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703343
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 690325 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Download banner from a fixed URL, on failure use a default banner (affects: 2) (heat: 112)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690325
[14:04] <thisfred> DONE: platform rally, started on u1unity integration TODO: finish messaging infrastructure | rest of u1-unity BLOCKED: no
[14:04] <ralsina> DONE: reading lots of code (again), writing proposal for new service on u1 (ask me in private if you want).
[14:04] <ralsina> TODO: reviews, management stuff, have HR fix things for me, someday actual coding ;-)
[14:04] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[14:04] <ralsina> CardinalFang!
[14:04] <CardinalFang> DONE: day successfully holiday'ed.
[14:04] <CardinalFang> TODO: Finish playlist API, probably most of the day.  Need to finish a view and expose Python API in DBus.
[14:04] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: My Javascript knowledge is old.
[14:05] <CardinalFang> er, mandel now?
[14:05] <mandel> DONE: Finished os_helpers implementation on windows. Proposed merge will be delayed 'til qs arrive. Moved to implement the FileSystemWatcher, found some small issues I'm working on.
[14:05] <mandel> TODO: Finish FileSytemWatcher, move to ipc.
[14:05] <mandel> BLOCKED: no, although there are very strange things in the windows world...
[14:05] <thisfred> CardinalFang: oops yeah sorry, I heard ping and hit send
[14:05] <mandel> no idea who is next....
[14:05] <mandel> then thisfred :)
[14:05] <nessita> mandel: what's qs?
[14:06] <mandel> nessita: queues are being merged with trunk, right?
[14:06]  * mandel thinks it was called like that....
[14:06] <nessita> mandel: the lingo for that is 'unleash the queues', as far as I know
[14:07] <thisfred> release the hounds!
[14:07] <mandel> nessita: well, I abbreviate a little :)
[14:07] <nessita> mandel: and as far as I know, all the unleash the queues work is done... I think. But maybe you have more updated info than I do
[14:07] <mandel> nessita: I did a merge with trunk and got nothing to be done as the reply
[14:07] <ralsina> Guys/gal, I have team leads call in a while and I would like a quick status check on everyone's projects. Could you do that in private to me quickly?
[14:08] <rye> mandel, i am running 807 and it has crazy upload speeds :)
[14:08] <nessita> ralsina: sure!
[14:08] <nessita> so, eom?
[14:08] <ralsina> let's see.....
[14:09] <ralsina> Canonicaladmin is still not working for me, so everyone's swaps/holidays/whatevers can't be officially approved
[14:09] <nessita> ralsina: I'm particularly worried about bug #703979, bug #688240 and bug #674876
[14:09] <rye> nessita, remember the test i was running last year with trying to upload linux kernel unpacked? Re-trying with unleashed queues now :)
[14:09] <alecu> nessita, I believe the "unleashing" has not happened yet, https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client
[14:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 703979 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "UbuntuOne continually faults leaving system unusable (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703979
[14:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 688240 in ubuntuone-client "Nautilus plugin crashes consistently making the CPU usage raise to the roof (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/688240
[14:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 674876 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Nautilus keeps opening when ubuntu one plugin is installed (affects: 8) (dups: 3) (heat: 99)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674876
[14:09] <rye> alecu, it has happened
[14:09] <mandel> rye: I really do not know.. I think it was coming soon, but no idea :P
[14:09] <nessita> alecu: it has, 4 branches have landed already
[14:10] <ralsina> nessita: I'll check them
[14:10] <alecu> nessita, I see that lp:~facundo/ubuntuone-client/unleash-the-queues-4 is up for review...
[14:10] <nessita> ralsina: all those 3 seems like the same bug (nautilus crashes consistently restarting itself, making the CPU usage go to the roof and making the computer unusable)
[14:11] <nessita> ralsina: though dobey stated that the one reported by me has a different backtrace than the others
[14:12] <nessita> alecu: right, so 3 branches have already landed :-)
[14:12] <ralsina> nessita: the nautilus plugin is dobey's right?
[14:12] <nessita> ralsina: yes
[14:12] <dobey> hey, sorry
[14:12] <ralsina> hi dobey!
[14:13] <dobey> nessita: yes, your issue was apparently that nautilus kept trying to start, even though it was already running, right?
[14:13] <nessita> alecu: if you run SD from trunk, you'll see it happening. QUEUES are in WORKING state only (no more WORKING_ON_{META, CONTENT, BOTH}
[14:13] <nessita> dobey: no, it crashes
[14:13] <nessita> dobey: when the u1client plugin is installed, see the traceback linked
[14:14] <nessita> dobey: the issue I had in Dallas was a different one, u1client was not installed in that case
[14:14] <nessita> dobey: seb128 pointed me to the fix for having nightlies building again:
[14:14] <nessita> 10:49:57 AM) seb128: you need to add to debian/libubuntuone-dev.install
[14:14] <nessita> (10:50:04 AM) seb128: "debian/tmp/usr/share/gir-1.0/UbuntuOne-1.0.gir"
[14:14] <dobey> i didn't know nightlies weren't building
[14:14] <nessita> dobey: didn't you commented that last week?
[14:14] <dobey> no
[14:15] <dobey> that's not the right fix
[14:16] <dobey> libu1 nightlies were broken for another reason
[14:16] <dobey> not because of gir
[14:18] <nessita> dobey: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/+archive/nightlies/+build/2153349/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.libubuntuone_0.3.9%2Br113%7Emaverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:23] <ralsina> thisfred, alecu: you didn't get any response from james?
[14:24] <alecu> ralsina, yes, he contacted us last friday.
[14:24] <ralsina> alecu: oh, cool, so you started putting him in touch with bindwood already?
[14:26] <alecu> ralsina, no, friday was hell and we haven't set up a meeting just yet
[14:26] <ralsina> alecu: ok
[14:29] <vds> ralsina: sorry I missed the standup, not much new to add, still doing REST APIs work
[14:29] <ralsina> no problem :-)
[14:32] <thisfred_> right I have to mail him back
[15:01] <karni> good day everyone :)
[15:01]  * karni greets beuno
[15:05] <beuno> heya karni!
[15:05] <karni> hello :)
[15:07] <karni> beuno: Yesterday I decided the old concept of meta+content _queues_ fits us better, as we don't really need (or even want) simultaneous transfers, and I begun implementing that. I'm on post, so time to do some real coding before mailing progress update this evening.
[15:09] <karni> beuno: Surely I can say it's quite much to code, but hey. Somebody has to do it, and it seems that person is me! *laughs*
[15:10]  * beuno nods
[15:10] <beuno> sounds good
[15:34] <dobey> doh
[15:35] <dobey> forgot to fix the control.in rather than just the control
[15:55] <dobey> can i get some reviews for https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/gsd-quota-fixes-stable/+merge/46153 and https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/gsd-listen-only-stable/+merge/46288 please?
[16:20] <mandel> dobey: on it
[16:20] <dobey> mandel: gracias bandejo! :)
[16:22] <mandel> dobey:  hehe
[16:23] <mandel> dobey: when trying to compile im getting HAVE_INSTROSPECTION does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL, am I missing something?
[16:23] <dobey> yes
[16:23] <dobey> mandel: gobject-introspection
[16:24] <dobey> mandel: if you have the nightles PPA deb-src entry added to apt sources, you can apt-get build-dep ubuntuone-client
[16:26] <dobey> ok, am off to lunch
[16:26] <mandel> dobey: ok, thx I'll do that
[17:14] <Chipaca> rodrigo_: ping
[17:14] <rodrigo_> hey Chipaca
[17:15] <Chipaca> rodrigo_: hi! there's a question on uskubuntu I was about to ask thisfred to fix, but then i thought maybe you knew the symptoms better
[17:15] <Chipaca> rodrigo_: could you spare a minute or fifty and look at it?
[17:15] <rodrigo_> Chipaca, 1 or 50? 1 then :-D
[17:15] <rye_> nightlies are broken, in case anybody's syncdaemon does not start
[17:15] <rodrigo_> Chipaca, seriously, sure, what question?
[17:16] <Chipaca> rodrigo_: dutch idiom i loved: "one or fifty" means ~50
[17:16] <rodrigo_> :D
[17:16] <Chipaca> rodrigo_: but, j/k, shouldn't take more than five-ten
[17:16] <Chipaca> http://askubuntu.com/q/21986/711
[17:16] <Chipaca> and if it's more a thisfred_ quesiton than a rodrigo_  question, even less time for you :)
[17:18]  * thisfred_ looks
[17:19] <thisfred_> Chipaca: looks like it may be a keyring problem
[17:19] <Chipaca> yes... but ...
[17:19] <Chipaca> a keyring problem, to query the local couch?
[17:19] <thisfred_> Chipaca: evolution is sending the wrong credentials
[17:19] <rye_> dobey, so, re: lucid backport branch - tested it during the weekends and found the only issues in nautilus plugin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/555471/
[17:19] <thisfred_> Chipaca: yeah, hmmm
[17:19] <rodrigo_> Chipaca, answered asking for more info
[17:19] <thisfred_> Chipaca: it shouldn't be using oauth at all
[17:20] <rodrigo_> Chipaca, not sure if I get notifications of changes in that question, so if you see any, let me know and I'll look back
[17:21] <rye_> bug #668409 ?
[17:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 668409 in desktopcouch "Does not check for local auth entries in keyring if couchdb.html is present and parseable. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668409
[17:21] <Chipaca> here, have 10 points
[17:24]  * CardinalFang looks.
[17:31] <Chipaca> rodrigo_: while you're on a roll: http://askubuntu.com/q/22144/711
[17:31] <Chipaca> or is that a role?
[17:31] <rodrigo_> or row? :)
[17:33] <Chipaca> mandel: ^ that q above could be yours, also
[17:34]  * Chipaca spreads around the askubuntu love
[17:34] <rodrigo_> :)
[17:34] <rodrigo_> Chipaca, ok, answered also, seems a problem with C#/Mono/.NET
[17:34] <rodrigo_> mandel might know better
[17:50] <ralsina> thisfred_ CardinalFang: were you once trying to do a couchdb 1.0 backport to lucid?
[17:55] <thisfred_> ralsina: I think the package was ready at one point, but it got stuck in the SRU process
[17:56] <thisfred_> ralsina: basically the technical board nixed it, and we came up with some acceptable solutions, but nobody ever got round to picking one and building it
[17:56] <thisfred_> right Chipaca?
[17:56] <ralsina> yes, the technical board has suggested the package should go into backports
[17:56] <ralsina> and then we may do a SRU in preferences to add a link to download it
[17:57] <ralsina> or just add it to the docs
[17:57] <thisfred_> right, that was the best option we could come up with
[17:57] <ralsina> so, this package is the same that's on ubuntuone/stable repo?
[18:12] <dobey> doh, rye is gone :-/
[18:14] <dobey> the couchdb in ubuntuone/stable is exactly the same as the 1.0 that was in maverick when i put it in the ppa, save for the version change to add the ~lucid bit in the changelog
[18:17] <ralsina> dobey: cool
[18:17] <ralsina> dobey: could you add it to backports according to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[18:17] <ralsina> Basically it's filing a bug
[18:18] <ralsina> Or maybe not, I am not sure I understand that page yet
[18:18] <dobey> that page is "file a bug, and backports team deals with it"
[18:19] <ralsina> dobey: that's what I understood, and then it starts explaining more and it got more confusing the more I read ;-)
[18:20] <dobey> right
[18:24] <ralsina> so, please dobey, file the bug, mention that we have the package in our repo, and let's see what happens.
[18:30] <dobey> sure
[18:30] <ralsina> dobey: thanks a lot
[18:31] <dobey> blah, i need to bug rye, and it's the one time he actually decides to go to sleep or something :P
[18:40] <dobey> rodrigo_: btw, you never did deal with bug 604810 :-/
[18:40] <ubot4> dobey: Bug 604810 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/604810 is private
[19:14] <dobey> ralsina: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lucid-backports/+bug/704590
[19:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 704590 in lucid-backports "Please backport couchdb 1.0.1-0ubuntu3 to Lucid (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[19:15] <ralsina> dobey: awesome
[19:18] <verterok> nessita: When a share is created from a ShareVolume always mark it as accepted (we don't have that info in the protocol, but it's implicit)
[19:18] <verterok> ups
[19:18] <verterok> nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~verterok/ubuntuone-client/fix-702035/+merge/46662
[19:18] <verterok> heh
[19:18] <nessita> verterok: eh? :-) you asking only for review or the share comment is for me as well?
[19:18] <verterok> nessita: fix the shares bug
[19:19] <verterok> nessita: the comment is just the commit message in my clipboard :p
[19:19] <nessita> ja
[19:19] <nessita> :-)
[19:19] <nessita> verterok: I'll review in 20 minutes approx
[19:19] <verterok> nessita: no hurry, just fyi that we have a fix :)
[19:23] <dobey> haha, i got re-twitted by @firefoxsux
[20:17] <vadi2> 'copy web link' after I enable publishing is frequently not enabled, which hampers the usability severely. is this a known issue?
[21:21] <dobey> finally, libu1 nightlies are fixed and building
[21:23] <nessita> dobey: I'm assigning this bug #704618 to you, could you please reviuew when you have a moment?
[21:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 704618 in ubuntuone-client "Ubuntu One update inserts second bookmark in Nautilus (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704618
[21:24] <nessita> ok. I'm eod'd
[21:24] <nessita> see ya tomorow crowd!
[22:19] <jcastro> do we support ubuntuone on linux mint or other derivatives?
[22:36] <alecu> jcastro, I don't think we "support", but we'll surely may help whoever tries to!
[22:51]  * alecu waves


[07:14] <phunyguy> tattle-tale.
[12:08] <k1l> !helpful
[12:19] <bazhang> !behelpful
[12:19] <k1l> yep, found that in query with ubottu
[12:20] <bazhang> I prefer !notsohelpful
[19:09] <Tubby> !ops
[19:09] <Tubby> what up bitches
[19:11] <DJones> Heya HFS
[19:59] <Myrtti> wasn't kow banned?
[19:59] <Myrtti> or do I misremember
[19:59] <bazhang> cowtoe?
[20:00] <Myrtti> maybe
[20:50] <phunyguy> naah Kow is cool
[20:50] <phunyguy> Myrtti: Kow and I go back on the interwebs all the way to like 1995


[01:05] <drubin> ikonia: I have a quick question, does the Ubuntu IRC comunity council even deal with Kline bans? Surely that stuff is and should be handled by freenode staff?
[01:08] <nhandler> drubin: klines are entirely handled by freenode
[01:08] <nhandler> Ban appeals in the Ubuntu namespace are handled by the IRCC
[01:09] <drubin> nhandler: but kline evations and appeals trump Bans ;-p
[01:10] <drubin> So there is no need to investigate further IF the user was evading a Kline. IMHO
[01:12] <drubin> Any how I am out. glad every thing got sorted.
[01:24] <rww> I'm being my usual pedantic self, I know, but it's "IRC Council" and "Community Council". Unless something changed since I last looked, there isn't an "IRC Community Council".
[01:25] <IdleOne> I believe IRC Community Council is a valid description for what the IRCC covers
[01:26] <IdleOne> IRCC handles the Ubuntu IRC community and the CC covers the greater Ubuntu community. although rww is right in saying it is the IRC Council.
[01:27] <rww> Yes, it's a valid description, but no need to make (e.g.) the appeals process even more confusing by conflating the names of the two councils involved.
[01:27] <rww> just a thought. As I said, I know I'm nitpicking.
[01:27] <IdleOne> agreed


[00:30] <LjL> wgrant, there's a fellow on #ubuntu asking how to change the color depth in Intrepid - claims it "looks like" 16-bit by default. could that be, and how would he change it?
[00:32] <wgrant> LjL: There should be something in the Xorg log about it, and it can be forced in a similar method to resolutions - just adding a 'Depth 24' rather than 'Mode "1280x1024"' in the display subsection.
[00:32] <wgrant> Can't look closely right now, as I'm tracking down a regression in my g-s-d SRU.
[00:35] <LjL> wgrant: err wait, so it *is* done in xorg.conf?
[00:36] <wgrant> LjL: If it is done at all, it is done in xorg.conf.
[00:36] <wgrant> Display stuff cannot be configured elsewhere.
[00:36] <wgrant> Yet.
[00:55] <LjL> does anyone else hate @nickname: addressing?
[00:56] <jdong> @LjL: I think that comes from some ancient forum communities
[00:56] <LjL> jdong: same place calling us "mods" comes from then. same place that killed poor usenet.
[00:56] <LjL> damn them.
[00:58] <jrib> usenet?  Is that the aol forums?
[00:58] <LjL> jrib: is this the /kickban command key?
[00:58]  * jrib readies his botnet
[00:59] <jrib> but first I must go buy groceries
[00:59] <LjL> jrib: i shall winnuke you
[07:25] <Myrtti> good morning dearies
[07:26] <Tm_T> Myrtti: good morning
[07:29] <Tm_T> 01:35 #kubuntu-devel: < DaSkreech> Tm_T: Myrtti isn't your sister?
[07:31] <Myrtti> I'm not your sister?
[07:31] <Myrtti> ;____;
[07:31] <Tm_T> but but, you are!
[07:32] <Tm_T> HALUUUN!! *itkpotkraivari*
[07:44] <Myrtti> can I go back to bed for 45mins?
[07:53] <Tm_T> Myrtti: no
[09:07] <Myrtti> Tm_T: sorry, went before you said no
[09:07] <Myrtti> that was a nice nap.
[09:19] <Flannel> sigh.
[09:19] <Flannel> Already been talked to about it, but I just have to repost...
[09:19] <Flannel> 01:18 < IndyGunFreak> alterego: good luck w/ that, envy is like herpes, you may not see it, but its there.
[09:25] <shes3k> ould anyone mind if I borrow what the bot says in response for "!ask" to another channel?
[09:25] <shes3k> s/^/w/
[09:25] <jussi01> shes3k: nope, go right ahead :)
[09:25] <shes3k> thanks :)
[09:25] <jussi01> np
[09:26] <jussi01> Morning all
[09:29] <Myrtti> morning dearie
[09:29] <Gary> moaning
[09:33] <jussi01> Gary: stop moaning....
[09:33] <jussi01> :D
[09:33]  * Myrtti slaps Gary
[09:55] <Gary> I do like a nice good slap
[09:59] <Myrtti> !intrepid
[10:07] <DasEi> do you plan to have seperate channels for hardy and ibex again ?
[10:08] <Myrtti> why?
[10:08] <Myrtti> they're both supported
[10:08] <DasEi> the crowd, the differences...
[10:09] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[10:09] <Myrtti> no we don't plan to have separate channels.
[10:11] <jussi01> DasEi: we will however have separate channels for juanty/the rest
[10:12] <Myrtti> #ubuntu+1 will be there as always
[10:13] <DasEi> juanty you and I ? hm got my question answered, shall leave, eh ?
[10:13] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[10:13] <DasEi> k, thx for the info
[10:31] <Myrtti> oooh, O'Reilly ad
[10:44] <Mez> PriceChild: I dont have a spare PSU around, but yeah, it could also be that.... :(
[10:44] <Mez> but, I'll find out later when I get the spanners out... gotta wait for guy to fix the boiler atm
[12:21] <Myrtti> would someone explain me why I can't stand ASUS-tek?
[12:22] <jussi01> because he stalks you?
[12:22] <bazhang> the serial name changing?
[12:27] <Myrtti> that too
[12:27] <Myrtti> but he's so DAMN SEXIST
[12:27] <Myrtti> I feel like smacking him like every other sentence he says
[12:28] <bazhang> right
[12:28] <bazhang> calling all women 'chicks'
[12:31] <Myrtti> [14:19]  * snuxoll thinks the world would be better if we were all cartoon characters
[12:31] <Myrtti> [14:19] < void^> too much nosebleed
[12:31] <Myrtti> [14:19] < ASUS-tek> o rly I wish I would have been some hentai character
[12:33] <Myrtti> mmmm gingerbread cookies topped with blue cheese, microwaved ♥
[12:33] <bazhang> interesting combo :)
[12:33] <jussi01> Myrtti: you are weird....
[12:33] <Myrtti> works, good and acknowledged in Finland
[12:34] <jussi01> Myrtti: blue cheese never works....
[12:34] <jussi01> now if we were talik brie....
[12:34] <jussi01> talking*
[12:34] <bazhang> hehe
[12:35] <Myrtti> jussi01: hehe, I've got Blue Stilton in my fridge now ;-)
[13:12] <Pici> Ugh. I'm tired of him complaining about that.
[13:16] <Pici> I'm thinking about just removing the factoid if he doesn't stop.
[13:16] <Myrtti> do it
[13:17] <Myrtti> I don't understand why there's factoids for them anyway
[13:17] <Myrtti> or anyone
[13:20] <Myrtti> !trash
[13:48] <Myrtti> !usplash
[14:03] <evand> elkbuntu: you should be able to run Wubi in WINE just fine
[14:06] <barbanegra> hello
[14:06] <barbanegra> im looking for help
[14:07] <barbanegra> im part a of a ubuntu community in Uruguay and the person who registered the channel #ubuntu-uy has not been here for a while, so we cant keep a control of the channel
[14:08] <barbanegra> so
[14:09] <barbanegra> i asked in #freenode to release the channel but they told me that theyl couldnt do that because of freenode policies, and that i should come in here for help
[14:11] <barbanegra> Daviey, elkbuntu gnomefreak ikonia jdong jrib jussi01 jussio1 mneptok pleia2 popey stdin SWAT Tm_T
[14:11] <barbanegra> anybody ?
[14:11] <jussi01> barbanegra: please dont ping eveeryone like that, be patient
[14:12] <barbanegra> sorry
[14:12] <stdin> you'll have to get someone from the council to request a staffer release the channel to them
[14:12] <stdin> then they can assign it to you, or whoever the new contact is
[14:13] <barbanegra> sorry i dont understand what you said
[14:13] <jussi01> the council is currently LjL elkbuntu PriceChild and nalioth, so you missed most of the important ones in your random ping anywa
[14:13] <barbanegra> i pinged the not away ones
[14:14] <barbanegra> is anyone from the council present?
[14:15] <jussi01> barbanegra: if they are they will answer, but you should wait in #ubuntu-irc
[14:15] <Pici> Not at the moment.  The proper channel for Ubuntu Loco team IRC channels is #ubuntu-irc, you can wait there.
[14:15] <barbanegra> ok i will wait there
[14:15] <barbanegra> thanks
[14:27] <genii> @login
[14:27] <genii> Good morning,afternoon or evening
[14:41] <SWAT> mass-highlight, eek
[14:42]  * jussi01 huggles SWAT
[14:42]  * SWAT hugs jussi01
[14:42] <SWAT> doh, I didn't mean it, it just happened!
[14:43] <jussi01> rofl
[14:52] <Pici> False alarm
[15:08] <Pici> Another person just asmed me about a manpage bot.
[15:10] <ikonia> I personally see no need for that
[15:10] <Pici> Me either.
[15:10] <ikonia> type "man" to read a man page, not enter a public irc channel
[15:11] <Pici> The 'meat' of the manpage is way after the syntax portion anyway, and thats a bit of a flood to send someone.
[15:14] <ikonia> yup
[15:25] <jussi01> totally agreed...
[15:31] <jussi01> teadicts is already banned from #u iirc...
[15:31] <Pici> is he?
[15:31] <Pici> @bansearch teadict
[15:31] <Pici> @login
[15:35] <jussi01> @btlogin
[15:38] <jussi01> oops, was thiinking of a similar nick.. [06:06:29] --> tea4all<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-ops
[15:38] <jussi01> sorry
[15:42] <Pici> ah
[17:09] <bazhang> woden1> speak-eh zee een-glish
[17:09] <bazhang> @bansearch thunar1
[17:10] <Pici> I dont see a problem of how handled it.
[17:10] <ikonia> bazhang: he's known under a nother nick
[17:10] <bazhang> ikonia, woden1 is thunar1
[17:11] <genii> jussi01: You alive?
[17:11] <bazhang> felt that was unnecessarily denigrating
[17:13] <jussi01> genii: just came back.
[17:13] <ikonia> bazhang there was also another nick
[17:14] <bazhang> ikonia, not sure which one that would be.
[17:15] <ikonia> let me see if I still had it in th elog
[17:15] <ikonia> there was an issue in there the other day, asking people for money for help and things like that
[17:15] <bazhang> yeah
[17:15] <bazhang> that was thunar1
[17:15] <ikonia> really, I thought it was another nick
[17:16] <ikonia> that then turned out to be thunar1
[17:16] <bazhang> 199$ to his paypal account
[17:17] <bazhang> @bansearch woden1
[17:17] <bazhang> sorry for the highlight
[17:18]  * Pici shakes fist
[17:18] <bazhang> haha
[17:18] <ikonia> Pici:
[17:18] <Pici> :P
[17:18] <ikonia> sorry
[17:18] <bazhang> hahaha
[17:18] <Pici> I'm sure
[17:24] <bazhang> quassel251, hi, how may we assist you
[17:25] <genii> bazhang: quassel251 is me testing jussi01's quassel core :)
[17:25] <bazhang> genii, sweet :)
[17:26] <genii> jussi01: Like the Apache page says: "It Works!"
[17:26] <jussi01> :D
[17:27] <jussi01> genii: please identify and cloak yourself pronto!
[17:27] <jussi01> before spreading that ip everywhere...
[17:27] <genii> jussi01: As my regular name?
[17:27] <bazhang> kinnaz in -ot
[17:27] <stdin> /msg nickserv identify genii <pass>
[17:28] <genii> jussi01: I'll boot this one, a sec
[17:28] <jussi01> genii: why not - just use your alternate nick if you dont want to exit
[17:28] <jussi01> meh
[17:28] <stdin> nickserv will cloak a non-identified nick if you supply a known nick
[17:29] <genii> @login
[17:30] <jussi01> genii: so set that up in the identity section - your nicks and alternates, then put your password as the server password :9
[17:32] <genii> jussi01: I'll need to do that later. I have right now only genii and genii-around (my main one somehow). When I set up an alternate name from the main one, will it let me use both quassel and konversation ?
[17:32] <genii> (as cloaked, identified, etc)
[17:33] <jussi01> genii: yeah it will - see jussi01 and jussio1 ?
[17:33] <jussi01> thats my quassel and irssi...
[17:33] <genii> Ah, yeah
[17:33] <genii> jussi01: I'll do it later from home then
[17:34] <jussi01> genii: let me know when you want some aliases for op stuff
[17:34] <jussi01> ok, im off for a bit
[17:44] <genii> Darn. Was gonna pick his brains about quassel, since soon will be 3 separate dedicated connections coming into my office and could run one on each.
[17:47] <jussi01> genii: Im here again, up and down, so pm me and Ill answer whne I can...
[17:47] <genii> Will do
[17:50] <genii> Can't say I'm crazy about lack of text selection for copy/paste function in quassel
[17:59] <Mez> quassel seems an ok idea... but why not irssi ;)
[18:08] <jussi01> Mez: that ^^ is commonly called "trolling" ;)
[18:09] <stdin> jussi01: it doesn't count as trolling if you append ';)'
[18:09] <stdin> oh: ;)
[18:33] <PriceChild> *wow* ubuntu's mobile internet automatic stuff thing is really good
[18:33] <PriceChild> although default apn for my phone is wrong, i'm really impressed
[18:35] <Myrtti> PriceChild: I'll convay your thanks to my "kid"
[18:35]  * PriceChild highfives Myrtti
[18:35] <Myrtti> or you can just /msg Wellark thanks for mbca
[18:35] <jussi01> Myrtti: I concur with PriceChild
[18:36]  * Myrtti blushes like a proud mother would
[18:38] <PriceChild> Myrtti: so I don't have to spend ages figuring it out, if i want to file a bug against those defaults for my isp, which package is it? :P
[18:39] <Seeker`> anyone know how i can stop X grabbing an IR receiver as an input device so lirc gets a chance
[18:40] <jussi01> Seeker`: no, we dont know, now back in your box! :P :P
[18:40]  * jussi01 huggles Seeker`
[18:40] <Seeker`> :(
[18:40]  * Seeker` cries
[18:43] <Myrtti> PriceChild: mobile-broadband-provider-info
[18:46] <PriceChild> Done, thanks Myrtti.
[18:47] <Seeker`> anyone apart from jussi01 ?
[18:57] <Pici> I'm going afk, can someone keep an eye on xhunter_ in #u? Thanks.
[19:44] <soundray> Have you seen the dangerous suggestion that alesan makes by way of his or her quit line?
[19:46] <Pici> ouch
[19:47] <Pici> soundray: Thanks for pointing it out
[19:48] <soundray> Pici: pleasure :)
[19:49] <soundray> Thanks for taking action
[20:21] <Tm_T> hi kids
[20:23] <jussi01> Tm_T: hi!!
[20:23] <jussi01> Tm_T: perhaps you know the answer to my question,,,
[20:24] <jussi01> Tm_T: do you know how to add items to the lancelot "part3 menus?
[20:27] <Pici> Yikes, #ubuntu is packed
[20:29] <jussi01> yep
[20:31] <Pici> pici already banned him in #ubuntu
[20:32] <ikonia> whats the count Pici
[20:32] <Pici> ikonia: hmm?
[20:32] <ikonia> #ubuntu packed, how many in
[20:32] <Pici> 1612
[20:33] <Pici> Only a hundred or so short of our max ever.
[20:33] <ikonia> yup
[20:33] <ikonia> I would have swore I'd seen it at 2000+
[20:34] <jussi01> ikonia: what drugs are you on and can I have some? :D
[20:34] <ikonia> thats what I LjL said when I said that, I must be wrong
[20:36] <jussi01> heeh
[20:53] <Pici> Going afk to vote, #ubuntu is a zoo
[20:53] <Pici> have fun
[20:55] <jussi01> everyone expect pici back in like 6 hours....
[20:55] <jussi01> :P
[21:11] <Pulpie> I fixed my dcc problem
[21:12] <Pulpie> I wish to be unbanned
[21:15] <stdin> Pulpie: read the topic in #ubuntu-read-topic
[21:16] <Pulpie> stdin: i did,
[21:16] <Pulpie> I did fix 2
[21:16] <Pulpie> stdin: In fact I just told you I fixed my problem, why are you redirecting me back towards it?
[21:17] <stdin> there are instructions in the topic that say what you need to type in that channel to be tested
[21:18] <stdin> or, there should be
[21:18] <Pulpie> oh well I never truely had a dcc problem... I just had an internet problem while in #ubuntu
[21:19] <stdin> well the bots have now removed the ban
[21:19] <Pulpie> ok thanks
[21:33] <PriceChild> Nope, he was vulnerable.
[22:25] <mneptok> i'm vulnerable. and sensitive. be gentle.
[22:31]  * jussi01 huggles mneptok
[22:35] <mneptok> that made my no-no hole tingly
[22:36] <jussi01> hah!
[23:01] <Seeker`> mneptok: what on earth?!!?
[23:02] <LjL> probably not on earth, looks like another planet
[23:30]  * mneptok beeps maniacally and returns to synchronous orbit
[23:37]  * Seeker` puts mneptok on ignore


[00:56] <tsimpson> AlanBell: actually I had do kill it, it was spinning the CPU at 100%, that's where the signal 15 came from
[00:58] <tsimpson> then I had to clear the nearly 40GB of log files suppybot decided to make, so you may want to do something about the 1.7GB log meetingology has
[06:57] <bazhang> jhc
[07:03] <IdleOne> qbittorent isn't even in the repos
[07:04] <bazhang> seems to be here
[07:04] <IdleOne> hmm
[07:04] <bazhang> perhaps spelled with one t instead of two
[07:04] <IdleOne> nope
[07:04] <IdleOne> !info qbittorent
[07:04] <IdleOne> !info qbitorent
[07:04] <bazhang> !info qbittorrent
[07:05] <IdleOne> oops
[07:05] <IdleOne> missing r
[07:05] <bazhang> hehe
[08:19] <AlanBell> tsimpson: ah, right I will remove that
[11:48] <Myrtti> he moves like Jagger
[15:43] <DJones> 16:42 < THEtruthHOOA> why join #ubuntu-women and get banned
[15:43] <DJones> From #u
[15:55] <AlanBell> yeah, that was me, they were ban evading
[16:13] <DJones> They were in #u & seemed to be starting a bit of a rant, but then gave up
[17:33] <bazhang> mrdeb asking for support in #ubuntu the other day is actually using crunchbang
[17:33] <ikonia> I know
[17:33] <ikonia> I warned him about it the other day
[17:33] <bazhang> #debian does not to support him either
[17:33] <bazhang> +want
[17:34] <ikonia> he was asking in #ubuntu because #crunchbang got fed up of him/laughed at him
[17:34] <ikonia> @mark Casey #ubuntu actually the nick THEUSD
[18:21] <ikonia> hellow ajw0100
[18:27] <DJones> ajw0100: Is there something we can help you with? If there isn't, please note that the channel has a no idling policy
[19:09] <LjL> might be getting redirected from somewhere else (though i see nothing in the tracker)
[19:11] <bazhang><EMAIL_ADDRESS>by DJones in #ubuntu   LjL
[19:11] <bazhang> from #ubuntu
[19:11] <LjL> ah
[19:11] <bazhang> the @bansearch with the bot found that
 how can i remember my nickname pass from freenode?
[19:32] <bazhang> what is the sound of one hand clapping
[19:33] <bazhang> !koan
[19:33] <bazhang> awww
[20:41] <DJones> ajw0100: You have been asked if you need any help and asked not to idle in the channel


[09:01] <schopin> slyon: do you want me to prepare a backported patchset for LP: #1942930 ?
[09:06] <slyon> schopin: no, thank you! I just did that this morning: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/netplan/+git/ubuntu/log/ – But if you want you could prepare the SRU uploads (and SRUify the LP bugs) for Hirsute & Focal on LP: #1942930 and maybe also include LP: #1943120 into that same SRU upload?
[09:07] <schopin> Will do!
[09:07] <slyon> Packaging could best be prepared as an merge proposal against https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/netplan/+git/ubuntu (ubuntu/focal & ubuntu/hirsute)
[09:08] <slyon> I'm currently running autopkgtest on that ubuntu7 upload for impish and will upload in a bit.
[09:08] <schopin> Eh. I was wondering where it was done!
[09:13] <slyon> schopin: btw, do you want me to review your error-code-flow branch individually, or is it fine as part of PR#232 ?
[09:29] <schopin> slyon: Did I merge it in 232? I'm not sure it was a needed precursor for that one, but for PR#233. I'll test 232 without it in my next version.
[09:32] <slyon> yeah. It is merged in 232, and I left some comments for it in there, before realizing that this is from a different PR.
[09:32] <slyon> ok sounds good!
[16:32]  * enyc meows


[05:17] <rpereira> Hi.
[05:17] <rpereira> How do I know if a git code was patched to the actual kernel version on Feisty?
[05:21] <Nafallo> there is a kernel for edgy-security still coming? I plan to rewire some stuff when I have to reboot anyway :-)
[05:22] <kylem> Nafallo, it's been uploaded... dunno if it's made it into the archive yet.
[05:22] <Nafallo> haven't seen USN or edgy-changes :-)
[05:22] <Nafallo> good anyway. maybe I get the disk before it's released then ;-)
[05:23] <rpereira> kylem: How do I know if a git code was patched to the actual kernel version on Feisty?
[05:24] <kylem> Nafallo, hehe.
[05:24] <kylem> rpereira, the changelog?
[05:24] <rpereira> kylem, I look for it.Thanks.
[05:24] <rpereira> s/I/I'll
[05:27] <Nafallo> grep ftw! :-)
[05:35] <rpereira> kylem: I tried to find by myself but I didn't conclude if this patch (http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/drzeus/mmc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e89bac488861ebadfca3a74321af19a262dcbd08) was applied to 2.6.20-9.15. I didn't found a patch id or something like that.
[05:36] <rpereira> I tried to look for searching on this file: zless /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.20-9-generic/changelog.Debian.gz
[07:31] <kidanger> bonsoir
[07:33] <kidanger> J'ai un modem fast 800, si je met  jour le noyau ca marche toujours ?
[07:36] <Nafallo> -EWRONGLANG
[07:36] <Nafallo> we speak english in here :-)
[07:36] <kidanger> hoo sorry
[07:36] <kidanger> i am french
[07:37] <Nafallo> you might want to try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-fr or the like for support though :-)
[07:37] <kidanger> and i have a problem
[07:37] <kidanger> only english here?
[07:38] <Nafallo> yes. and only development. for support, see the channels I posted :-)
[07:38] <kidanger> :)
[07:38] <kidanger> k sry
[07:38] <kidanger> bye
[07:38] <Nafallo> no problem :-)
[07:38] <kidanger> lol
[08:55] <Nafallo> XEN will not have securitysupport in 7.04 I guess?
[10:00] <Keybuk> if I wanted to build a kernel identical to the Ubuntu one, but with one config change, how would I do that?
[10:11] <Keybuk> make: *** No rule to make target `updateconfigs'.  Stop.
[10:12] <kylem> eh?
[10:13] <kylem> debian/rules updateconfigs?
[10:13] <Keybuk> yes
[10:13] <Keybuk> I've clearly got the first step wron
[10:13] <Keybuk> I did apt-get source linux-source, then tar xf linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz2
[10:13] <kylem> oh.
[10:13] <kylem> just dpkg-source -x it...
[10:13] <Keybuk> which
[10:13] <Keybuk> the kernel image?
[10:14] <kylem> apt-get source linux-source-2.6.20
[10:14] <Keybuk> ok
[10:14] <Keybuk> how do I change one config option and rebuild just my image?
[10:14] <Keybuk> the AUTOBUILD...flavours=generic thing?
[10:14] <kylem> do the updateconfigs, and then debian/rules binary-debs flavours=generic
[10:15] <Keybuk> do you need AUTOBUILD=1 ?
[10:15] <kylem> shouldn't
[10:22] <Keybuk> kylem: oh yes, that's much better