[04:32] <StevenK> wgrant: Do you want to help me with my YUI3 Calendar branch?
[04:32] <StevenK> wallyworld_:  82 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 26310 deletions(-)
[04:33] <wallyworld_> StevenK: what did you delete?
[04:33] <StevenK> wallyworld_: YUI2
[04:33] <wallyworld_> \o/
[04:33] <wallyworld_> at last
[04:33] <wallyworld_> how's lp going?
[04:33] <StevenK> Yeah, but my YUI3 calender has a few problems
[04:34] <wgrant> StevenK: I don't know much YUI, but I can try
[04:34] <StevenK> Maybe I'll turn wallyworld_ upside down and shake him until some clues fall out
[04:34] <wallyworld_> StevenK: what calendar implementation did you use?
[04:34] <StevenK> wallyworld_: Y.Calendar from YUI 3.9.1
[04:35] <StevenK> (Which is now the YUI version used on LP if you're a beta-tester)
[04:35] <wallyworld_> it's been so long since i did yui i didn't even realise/remember they had a std calendar widget
[04:35] <wgrant> It's new. That was part of the motivation for the upgrade.
[04:35] <wallyworld_> what sort of issues are there?
[04:35] <StevenK>      * Looks like rubbish, and is transparent
[04:35] <StevenK>      * Needs an X to dismiss
[04:35] <StevenK>      * Need to handle time input
[04:35] <StevenK>      * Clicking Choose will create a new calendar
[04:35] <StevenK>      * The selection function does not fire
[04:36] <StevenK> Those are my current issues
[04:36] <wallyworld_> so just minor glitches then :-)
[04:36] <wallyworld_> with the (x) to dismiss, you could look at how the lazr overlays are done
[04:36] <StevenK> I'm happy to push up the branch, but it's *massive* due to YUI2 dying
[04:37] <wallyworld_> the lazr overlays add an (x) if i recall correctly
[04:37] <StevenK> wallyworld_: It's a node that calls div_node.hide(); on click, I just haven't done it
[04:38] <wallyworld_> what's the main bit you are stuck on?
[04:39] <StevenK> http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/new-calendar.jpg
[04:39] <StevenK> That's what I've spent Friday afternoon and this morning chasing
[04:40] <wgrant> Is there Y.Calendar CSS that you have to include?
[04:41] <StevenK> Done so
[04:41] <StevenK> +++ buildout-templates/bin/combine-css.in	2013-04-12 04:38:34 +0000
[04:41] <StevenK> +    'yui/calendar/assets/calendar-core.css',
[04:41] <StevenK> +    'yui/calendar/assets/skins/sam/calendar.css',
[04:41] <StevenK> +    'yui/calendar/assets/skins/sam/calendar-skin.css',
[04:43] <wallyworld_> are there any examples to work from? surely the transparency is just a misapplied style or something?
[04:44] <wallyworld_> with the selection issue, does the registered click handler get called? can you firebug that issue?
[04:45] <StevenK> wallyworld_: The calendar machinery creates an enclosing <div> for the calendar, but I couldn't figure out what style/class to set
[04:46] <StevenK> wallyworld_: I've set breakpoints inside the function that is supposed to fire, but it doesn't happen. I was going to read the JS to see if I can work out what events it emits.
[04:46] <wallyworld_> from memory, with the lp pretty overlays etc, we define our own css using selectors based on the full generated yui class names
[04:47] <wallyworld_> perhaps you could try something simple like a red background to ensure you selectors are correct (use fb to look at the exact class names to define your selector)
[04:47] <wallyworld_> the function that is supposed to fire - is that an onclick handler or something?
[04:48] <StevenK> calendar.on('selectionChange', function(e) {
[04:48] <wallyworld_> is there a yui calendar api you are using to register it, or it is a construction attribute, or...?
[04:49] <StevenK> wallyworld_: http://yuilibrary.com/yui/docs/calendar/
[04:50] <StevenK> And in calendar-base:         this.fire("selectionChange", {newSelection: this._getSelectedDatesList()});
[04:52] <wallyworld_> you used this example? http://yuilibrary.com/yui/docs/calendar/calendar-simple.html
[04:52] <wallyworld_> does a debug print inside your selection function print out?
[04:52] <wallyworld_> are there any yui errors? since they may prevent the handler from registering
[04:54] <StevenK> wallyworld_: Changing the style to include background-color:red; impacts the page so that works at least
[04:54] <wallyworld_> the page or the calendar itself?
[04:55] <StevenK> The <div> that contains the calendar
[04:55] <StevenK> Hm, maybe that is the answer.
[04:55] <wallyworld_> and the style you changed was in lp css?
[04:55] <StevenK> wallyworld_: No, the style tag when the <div> is created
[04:56] <wallyworld_> there's default styling that comes with the widget, and for that you need to say <div id="lpcal" class="yui3-skin-sam"  ....
[04:57] <wallyworld_> but i think in lp we use our own css stuff
[04:57] <wallyworld_> but for starters, see if adding the yui3-skin-sam style works
[04:57] <wallyworld_> classname i mean
[04:58] <wallyworld_> if that works, you could copy the default yui styling into a lp css file and rebrand as required
[04:58] <StevenK> wallyworld_: class="yui3-skin-sam" on the div has no effect
[04:59] <StevenK> style="position:absolute;background-color:white;" makes it non-transparent, but then it doesn't look like a usual LP popup
[04:59] <wallyworld_> you sure the yui3 skin css is being packaged in with the lp stuff?
[05:00] <StevenK> .yui3-skin-sam button.lazr-btn{background:transparent
[05:00] <StevenK> That could be a large clue
[05:00] <wallyworld_> where did you get that line from?
[05:00] <StevenK> combo.css
[05:03] <wallyworld_> it still seems that the combos.css is missing the calendar css stuff
[05:04] <wallyworld_> is the yui3 calendar source in the lp tree?
[05:05] <wallyworld_> and have you checked the build scripts to ensure the calendar css is being included?
[05:06] <wallyworld_> StevenK: see combine-css.in
[05:07] <StevenK> wallyworld_: I've changed that in this branch, see the four line of +... I pasted above
[05:07] <wallyworld_> ah right
[05:08] <wallyworld_> and you used fb to double check the rendered class name for the containing div is as required to pick up the styles from the combo.css?
[05:11] <wallyworld_> or you could use fb to see what styles are actually being applied
[05:11] <wallyworld_> and if the ones from the calendar.css are not there, then there's a problem with the class names being used
[06:35] <StevenK> Ugh
[06:36] <StevenK> My plan to create a PrettyOverlay and then render the calendar inside that is not going well
[07:58] <adeuring> good morning


[08:37] <lderan> knome, required vote count is a good idea, shall add it to the list :)
[08:44] <elfy> I thought so
[11:41] <knome> lderan, it might exist already...
[11:42] <lderan> will quickly check
[11:43] <elfy> it can be used in -meeting afaik - we were talking about it the other day in a meeting
[11:44] <elfy> that's the reason I knew and mentioned it yesterday :)
[11:44] <knome> #startmeeting
[11:44] <meetingology> Meeting started Sat May 17 11:44:09 2014 UTC.  The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[11:44] <knome> #Vote tet
[11:44] <meetingology> Please vote on: tet
[11:44] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[11:44] <knome> #votesrequired 2
[11:44] <meetingology> votes now need 2 to be passed
[11:44] <knome> +1
[11:44] <meetingology> +1 received from knome
[11:44] <knome> #endvote
[11:44] <meetingology> Voting ended on: tet
[11:44] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[11:44] <meetingology> Motion denied
[11:44] <knome> heh
[11:44] <elfy> :)
[11:44] <lderan> :P
[11:44] <knome> well, denied isn't the right one either
[11:44] <knome> #endmeeting
[11:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat May 17 11:44:41 2014 UTC.
[11:44] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-05-17-11.44.moin.txt
[11:50] <lderan> what should it say instead? required votes not reached?
[11:53] <knome> lderan, yeah, i guess
[11:54] <elfy> try it again - with 3 of us voting - one of each
[11:54] <elfy> that would be the right wording for only having one +1
[11:55] <knome> elfy, #votesrequired means
[11:55] <knome> err
[11:55] <knome> it actually means that N votes for or against is needed
[11:55] <knome> so practically,
[11:55] <knome> it'd need 3 -1 votes to be denied
[11:56] <elfy> no real use in our scenario :p
[11:56] <knome> no
[11:56] <elfy> actually - we'd just set it to 8 I guess
[11:56] <knome> yep
[11:56] <knome> but if there was no +8 or -8
[11:56] <knome> the bot would say "denied"
[11:56] <knome> which is wrong
[11:57] <elfy> it's right
[11:57] <elfy> the bot doesn'tr know about the mailing list :)
[11:57] <knome> it's not; there just isn't a decision yet
[11:57] <knome> sure
[11:57] <knome> but with +7, no vote is exactly "denied" either
[11:57] <elfy> would the bot use different wording here to elsewhere?
[11:57] <knome> it's just "not carried"
[11:58] <knome> it could use the same wording everywhere :)
[11:58] <elfy> then we shouldn't go changing the wording willy nilly :)
[11:58] <lderan> from the code if the vote reqauired was 4, and 4 people voted +1 and 4 people votes -1, it would actualy be carried
[11:59] <knome_web> huhu
[11:59] <elfy> lderan: lol
[11:59] <knome_web> actually,
[11:59] <lderan> might have to changed that slightly
[11:59] <knome_web> let's forget #votesrequired for a moment
[11:59] <elfy> :)
[11:59] <knome_web> what if there was a #quorum
[11:59] <knome_web> set that to 8
[11:59] <elfy> good point
[11:59] <knome_web> and if no -8 or +8 happens, then it says "no quorum"
[12:00] <knome_web> actually, it'd have to be able to count +0 votes
[12:00] <elfy> it should count vote - not vote value I guess
[12:00] <knome_web> right
[12:01] <knome_web> yeah, that sounds correct
[12:01] <elfy> for quorum at least
[12:01] <knome_web> count the vote value, and if value is at least quorum, carry/deny
[12:01] <knome_web> if not, say no quorum
[12:01] <knome_web> (but nonetheless, output the votes)
[12:02] <knome_web> but... that's not how we always want it
[12:02] <elfy> there was a conversation about all this with the membership board on Thursday - quorum and vote value
[12:02] <knome_web> that's a fair case for regular votes
[12:02] <knome_web> well, hmm
[12:02] <knome_web> then just set quorum value to 14 :P
[12:02] <lderan> :P
[12:03] <elfy> it'd not work for them - they need the 'value' to be +4
[12:03] <knome_web> yeah
[12:03] <elfy> anyway
[12:03] <knome_web> well that's why i was considering #quorum
[12:03] <knome_web> not changing the existing functionality
[12:03] <elfy> quorum would be useful - people don't have to use it
[12:03] <knome_web> because there clearly is use cases for that as well
[12:04] <knome_web> how would the bot handle the situation when both are set?
[12:04] <knome_web> #quorum 5
[12:04] <knome_web> #votesrequired 2
[12:05] <elfy> would need at least 3 +1's and 5 votes total?
[12:05] <knome_web> 2 +1's :P
[12:05] <knome_web> or 2 -1's
[12:05] <elfy> remove +0
[12:05] <elfy> :)
[12:05] <lderan> poor +0
[12:05] <elfy> no fences - too sharp :D
[12:05] <knome_web> i think it has some added value
[12:06] <knome_web> i mean, yeah, it definitely does
[12:06] <knome_web> it can help fill the quorum
[12:06] <knome_web> "i'm around, but don't want to vote either way2
[12:07] <elfy> :)
[12:08] <knome_web> i'm thinking a very specific situation..
[12:08] <knome_web> #quorum 8
[12:08] <knome_web> 7 persons vote +0
[12:08] <knome_web> 1 person votes +1
[12:09] <knome_web> well, the bot says it's carried
[12:09] <knome_web> ;)
[12:09] <elfy> yea - which is an issue for lots of teams
[12:09] <knome_web> so... should #votesrequired always be quorum/2 when quorum is set?
[12:09] <lderan> can have it so it has to have a majority when used with quorum?
[12:09] <elfy> I'd argue that it's an issue for any team that isn't Ubuntu Mathematicians
[12:10] <knome_web> lderan: i guess yeah unless #votesrequired is explicitly set to something else
[12:10] <elfy> lderan: a value majority or a votes majority
[12:11] <knome_web> elfy: question.. does the membership team really need it like this:
[12:11] <knome_web> if one votes -1, practically five need to vote +1 ?
[12:11] <knome_web> or would it be fine if they knew that there was at least four +1's ?
[12:12] <elfy> yea - though they too - take things to m/l if needed - but I don't want to get into the specifics right now - I'm not really here lol
[12:12] <knome_web> ;)
[12:12] <elfy> I just sat down to roll a smoke lol
[12:12] <lderan> vote majority? so if 8 vote 0 and 1 votes +1 it would count it as not carried? 5 would need to vote +1
[12:13] <elfy> mmm
[12:13] <elfy> hang on
[12:13] <knome_web> though
[12:13] <knome_web> the real question is:
[12:14] <knome_web> if quorum is 8, the real team size is 14/15
[12:14] <knome_web> shouldn't the bot just understand that in the situation lderan pasted
[12:14] <knome_web> and say it needs more votes
[12:14] <knome_web> or should we actually not use #quorum
[12:14] <knome_web> but #voters
[12:15] <knome_web> which would be the maximum amount of people voting
[12:15] <knome_web> and quorum would be calculated from that
[12:15] <lderan> mmm
[12:15] <knome_web> then setting
[12:15] <knome_web> #voters 14
[12:16] <knome_web> would practically work like the XPL voting
[12:16] <knome_web> but if it was a regular vote, and we knew there would be 6 people around,
[12:16] <knome_web> we could do
[12:16] <knome_web> #votesrequired 4
[12:16] <knome_web> no, that doesn't work
[12:17] <knome_web> or does, but then #voters is useless
[12:17] <elfy> would it work if there was a 'voter' who could have a number set by chair - #voters is a list of names - but you might have 9 people away and then voting on m/l
[12:17] <elfy> so for example #voteexternal=9
[12:18] <knome_web> #voters <nick> <nick> ... Set the qualified voters. Use '#voters all' to reset.
[12:18] <elfy> then you have #voters = those present
[12:18] <knome_web> or just assign everybody to it?
[12:18] <knome_web> and the bot knows how many are off because they didn't vote
[12:19] <elfy> knome_web: but would that work if elfy is in the list - but isn't in -devel when the vote takes places
[12:19] <elfy> does it not need the irc nick?
[12:19] <knome_web> it would work
[12:19] <knome_web> because it could just check if elfy voted
[12:19] <knome_web> whether elfy was around or not
[12:20] <elfy> ok
[12:21] <knome_web> so...
[12:21] <knome_web> what if we used that
[12:21] <knome_web> and then #quorum on/off
[12:21] <knome_web> is quorum is off, vote value within available people wins
[12:22] <elfy> logically sounds like it should work for us
[12:22] <knome_web> if it's off, vote amount wins if enough votes
[12:22] <knome_web> err,,
[12:22] <knome_web> if it's on :P
[12:22] <elfy> and quorum=voters/2+1
[12:23] <knome_web> floor(voters/2)+1
[12:23] <knome_web> but yeah.
[12:25] <lderan> cool
[12:27] <knome_web> btw, we need to be able to remove voters
[12:27] <knome_web> iirc, #voters just adds voters
[12:27] <knome_web> can't remove
[12:27] <knome_web> (except with #voters all)
[12:27] <elfy> why would you need to remove voters during a meeting?
[12:27] <knome_web> if we use a factoid that outputs #voters
[12:28] <knome_web> then knome suddenly has a "knome_web" nick
[12:28] <knome_web> and we don't want to break the quorum value
[12:28] <elfy> mmm yea
[12:28] <knome_web> then we need to remove knome and add knome_web
[12:31] <knome_web> (and if voters are removed, their votes should be removed too)
[12:34] <elfy> from current vote I assume
[12:34] <knome_web> yep
[12:35] <elfy> sounds good
[17:15] <ochosi> somehow i only receive a selection of the emails from the dev-mailinglist
[17:16] <ochosi> anyone else here having trouble with receiving the emails
[17:20] <elfy> ochosi: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-170514-181951.php
[17:21] <elfy> that's what I've received - what are you missing - they appear to match https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-May/thread.html
[18:48] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, didn't receive GridCube's and pleia2's message...
[18:48] <ochosi> very odd
[18:48] <ochosi> knome's i did receive
[18:51] <elfy> ochosi: perhaps the issue with your xfce mail address ?
[18:57] <ochosi> i dunno, i sent a testmail to myself today, that arrived normally
[18:59] <elfy> no idea I'm afraid
[19:01] <elfy> knome can't let go then - still XPL on his mail sig :D
[19:01] <ochosi> heh
[19:01] <ochosi> yeah
[23:32] <benonsoftware>  /msg jose Hiyas
[23:32] <benonsoftware> Err. -.-


[04:14] <lapo> hi
[08:44] <LDS_Trooper> hey guys..
[08:45] <LDS_Trooper> anyone know how I can change the color of the font on the desktop? Something other than white?
[08:46] <nothlit> easiest way is to use a different theme
[08:46] <LDS_Trooper> ok
[08:46] <LDS_Trooper> any other ways?
[08:46] <nothlit> write a .gtkrc-2.0, or use the gtk colour chooser
[08:46] <nothlit> i don't know if thats packaged for ubuntu
[08:47] <LDS_Trooper> hmm ok thanks
[08:47] <LDS_Trooper> One more question...
[08:47] <LDS_Trooper> With the next Ubuntu release coming fast, how can a friend and I get involved in the release after that?
[08:48] <nothlit> in the artwork?
[08:48] <nothlit> or in general
[08:48] <LDS_Trooper> Artwork primarily
[08:49] <nothlit> artwork, stick around here, join the mailing list and launchpad team
[08:49] <nothlit> i'm getting you the mailing list link
[08:49] <LDS_Trooper> thanks!
[08:49] <nothlit> launchpad.net search for ubuntu and artwork
[08:49] <nothlit> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[08:49] <LDS_Trooper> Great thanks!
[08:50] <LDS_Trooper> How soon would discussions start do you think?
[08:50] <nothlit> the best thing to do is produce ubuntu themes, sound, wallpapers, etc
[08:50] <nothlit> and submit it as part of the community
[08:51] <LDS_Trooper> through the launchpad?
[08:51] <nothlit> LDS_Trooper: the actual selection of artwork for the main release isn't actually done by the community
[08:51] <LDS_Trooper> ok
[08:51] <nothlit> so we don't have much say in that, but artwork is being submitted and added as part of a community package
[08:52] <LDS_Trooper> ok .. I will pass this to my friend as well and get involved
[08:52] <LDS_Trooper> Thanks so much!
[08:53] <nothlit> the artwork freeze actually happens today/tomorrow, so i suppose discussions could start now
[09:00] <LDS_Trooper> nothlit, I'd like to intro Droz. He's the 'friend' I mentioned earlier
[09:01] <Droz> hello
[09:02] <LDS_Trooper> well I will definately be back. But I do need to run
[09:04] <Droz> I have a question where can i download gnome-color-chooser
[09:06] <nothlit> gnome-look or files should have it
[09:07] <Droz> i was looking on gnome-look and i get nothing there
[09:08] <Droz> guess i will keep hunting
[09:08] <nothlit> gimme a sec
[09:09] <nothlit> also some themes like clearlooks will let you define colours as well if you use gnome2.18 i think
[09:11] <Droz> true
[09:12] <nothlit> http://tinyurl.com/yoxlks
[09:12] <nothlit> i tinyurled it because the url contains a swear word
[09:13] <Droz> yah i have been there but there is no where to download the files. The link goes to a blank page in gnome-look
[09:19] <Droz> ohh well i guess i will live with it or work on the .gtkrc-2.0 file untill i can find the files
[09:19] <Droz> Thank you for the help.
[09:23] <nothlit> !info gcolor
[09:23] <ubotu> Package gcolor does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:24] <nothlit> what the
[09:27] <nothlit> nm
[10:21] <nysosym> hi there
[10:34] <axxium> Hi, is the new "blue" human theme in Gutsy updates temporary? I hope so.
[10:40] <nothlit> thats awfully rude
[11:10] <Skiessi> blue human theme?


[22:41] <soundray> prodigel: where are you located?
[22:41] <prodigel> soundray: romanai
[22:41] <prodigel> soundray: romania*
[22:42] <soundray> chris_goe: I see very few discussions of RAID here. Maybe this is something to ask about on the forums.
[22:42] <buntu0> jpw27_: its to do with pointers and types
[22:42] <balleyne> how can I change the default application that opens when I plug in my digital audio player (ipod) in Hardy?
[22:42] <soundray> !raid | chris_goe
[22:42] <chris_goe> FakeRaid, hehe
[22:42] <jpw27_> buntu0: know how to fix it, by chance?
[22:42] <chris_goe> thanks, ubottu
[22:42] <buntu0> jpw27_: not without seeing the source code
[22:43] <Bhavesh> fakeraid definately helps
[22:44] <jpw27_> buntu0: 'make xconfig' has worked on my system before, so I don't know why it stopped now
[22:44]  * Daviey would avoid fakeraid
[22:44] <soundray> prodigel: if you can have DVB reception, you should buy a DVB-C card (e.g. Hauppauge Nova-C). Otherwise, I think a good card may be one from the PVR series.
[22:45] <buntu0> jpw27_: well the code is probably broken due to an upgrade or something, getting me line 345 of your wchar.h would be a start :)
[22:45] <tayfun> hey i wanna ask that room somethin
[22:45] <tayfun> i hope can anyone help me
[22:45] <tayfun> i install that software ubuntu linux
[22:45] <prodigel> soundray: how can I find out if I have DVB?
[22:45] <soundray> !enter | tayfun
[22:45] <jessica_lilly> !ask
[22:45] <soundray> prodigel: ask your cable provider
[22:46] <tayfun> i would like to have berly or xgl screen desktop cube what should i do
[22:46] <tayfun> or how cani do it ?
[22:46] <aguitel> is safe to mark the repositorie hardy proposed ?
[22:46] <jpw27_> buntu0: __extern_inline size_t
[22:46] <jessica_lilly> !beryl
[22:46] <prodigel> soundray: if it's something new I probably don't have it
[22:46] <Daviey> tayfun: system->preferences->appearance, then last tab, visual effects
[22:46] <tayfun> i dont know so much about ubuntu can someone tell me how to do that cube desktop ?
[22:47] <tayfun> daviey i did it
[22:47] <buntu0> jpw27_: ok ill check it out
[22:47] <tayfun> i got a 3 d effects
[22:47] <tayfun> but not a cube
[22:47] <soundray> prodigel: do ask though, or search your provider's web site for DVB
[22:47] <jpw27_> tayfun: type 'ccsm' at a command line, and click on desktop cube
[22:47] <BorkisDrizzt> So, I installed World of Warcraft, and after watching the intro-movie the game quits to the desktop again. What to do about that?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | tayfun
[22:47] <BorkisDrizzt> !compiz
[22:48] <tayfun> ccsm i wrote it#
[22:48] <tayfun> but he said it didnt install
[22:48] <tayfun> no combiz
[22:48] <Daviey> tayfun: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:48] <tayfun> from where give me the link pls
[22:48] <jessica_lilly> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/29/enabling-the-cube-in-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/
[22:49] <jessica_lilly> that shuld help with the cude
[22:49] <buntu0> jpw27_: upgraded stuff recently? :)
[22:49] <Jordan_U> tayfun, From Applications -> Add/Remove
[22:49] <SeaPhor> i just installed a 250gb sata hdd, and its only showing as a 160gb, i formatted it with gparted thinking it would show the unformatted space, but did not, any ideas?
[22:49] <tayfun> ok thanks people i will try now with install ccs combiz or somethin with that link
[22:49] <musikgoat> SeaPhor: sure its labeled correctly by the manufacturer?
[22:49] <jpw27_> buntu0: what stuff precisely
[22:49] <aguitel> is safe to mark the repo hardy proposed ?
[22:49] <Cybergasm> does anyone know why my NVIDEA graphics card is not working?
[22:49] <jay-koz> is there a way to force a program to run on my second(or third, or 4th) cpu core ?
[22:49] <musikgoat> SeaPhor: j/k  thats odd, are you sure that the disk is being identified?
[22:50] <jpw27_> buntu0: just in general? yes
[22:50] <The_ManU_212> my standby works sometimes, and sometimes not, using nvidia
[22:50] <balleyne> SeaPhor: what does `sudo fdisk -l` say? That should display the size, regardless of what partitions are on it
[22:50] <buntu0> jpw27_: anything that would touch /usr/include, such as kernel headers, -dev packages, any development headers, just headers really :P
[22:50] <soundray> SeaPhor: which capacity does sudo fdisk -l show for it?
[22:50] <BorkisDrizzt> So, I installed World of Warcraft, and after watching the intro-movie the game quits to the desktop again. What to do about that?
[22:50] <krim> If I install Epiphany to use as my Tor browser Firefox won't be affected right? Even though both use Gecko?
[22:50] <balleyne> krim: no problem, I use both all the time, settings are different
[22:50] <jay-koz> is there a way to force a program to run on my second cpu
[22:51] <krim> balleyne: thanks
[22:51] <jpw27_> buntu0: yea, i think a few days ago there was an update for the generic kernel headers
[22:51] <musikgoat> jay-koz: yes, in system monitor
[22:51] <SeaPhor> musikgoat, soundray , no, pulled it from a new PC that had vista on it and customer wanted XP 1 sec on the sudo fdisk -l
[22:51] <tayfun> give me an other link for ccsm combiz manager for to download
[22:51] <brezonneg> bonsoir
[22:51] <tayfun> i cant download it from there
[22:51] <tayfun> can someone give me for that a link where i can download it
[22:51] <buntu0> jpw27_: sounds like your problem mate
[22:51] <musikgoat> jay-koz: its called priority, i think
[22:52] <buntu0> though it seems like libc provides wchar.h
[22:52] <musikgoat> jay-koz: i'm wrong on that
[22:52] <brezonneg> bonsoir a tous, nouvel utilisateur de ubuntu
[22:52] <SeaPhor> i had 2 160gb before, now shows 3 160gb drives
[22:52] <Nipoc> Hi everyone, i've got a pc that only boots 1 out of 50 tries, i've tried removing all the different bits of hardware except the cpu but none of them will make it power on consistently. Power is definately getting to the mobo as a light is on.  Any ideas??
[22:52] <getBoa> Where does the ubuntu install the jdk by default?
[22:52] <Bhavesh> how'd you multiply the drives? i can use the same trick
[22:52] <jpw27_> buntu0: yea, I'm not sure if (or why) kernel headers touch stdlib.h
[22:52] <musikgoat> jay-koz: check out this explanation http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3925379&postcount=4
[22:53] <jpw27_> buntu0: i really have no clue though
[22:53] <jpw27_> just wondering
[22:53] <buntu0> jpw27_: im working on it ;)
[22:53] <SeaPhor> musikgoat, soundray , sudo fdisk -l shows (i had 2 160gb before) now shows 3 160gb drives
[22:53] <jpw27_> buntu0: haha, thanks much
[22:53] <Jordan_U> BorkisDrizzt, Are you running Hardy?
[22:53] <BorkisDrizzt> yes
[22:53] <musikgoat> SeaPhor: thats odd...  i've never heard of that before
[22:54] <Jordan_U> BorkisDrizzt, Try the latest wine 1.0 release candidate: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/hardy/wine_1.0~rc4~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[22:54] <brezonneg> a bientot
[22:54] <Twigathy> 2
[22:54] <Twigathy> bad.
[22:54] <musikgoat> SeaPhor: do you have a hardware raid on your motherboard?
[22:54] <connor> seaphor: whats the problem?
[22:54] <jpw27_> buntu0: if it would help, i can pastebin the whole nasty feedback, I just gave you lines I deemed pertinent
[22:54] <cellofellow> Hello. I've got some PSP (Python Server Pages) scripts I've written, and been using Gedit as my editor in PHP mode. It works, sort of. I'd like to have a PSP mode though. Anybody know where I can get a Gedit highlighting mode for PSP? Or maybe a different editor like Geany or SciTE has one built in?
[22:54] <wolfdart> guys, look the error when I will install the VirtualBox Closed Source: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3763/screenshotdebconfonwolfvc0.png\
[22:54] <buntu0> jpw27_: it would help alot
[22:54] <SeaPhor> musikgoat, no raid
[22:54] <jpw27_> alright
[22:54] <soundray> SeaPhor: I think the plausible explanation is that it never was a 250GB disk
[22:54] <blackdream> plz, what's the french chan ?
[22:55] <jussi01> !fr
[22:55] <soundray> blackdream: #ubuntu-fr
[22:55] <blackdream> thanks
[22:55] <musikgoat> SeaPhor: i'd have to agree with soundray, seems like the only answer
[22:55] <SeaPhor> soundray, you're probably right, but it says on the lablel hitachi 250 GB
[22:55] <balleyne> how can I change the default application that opens when I plug in my digital audio player (ipod) in Hardy?
[22:56] <connor> hmm
[22:56] <SeaPhor> brb, shutting down to pull it, brb
[22:56] <jpw27_> buntu0: thanks for the help, here's the whole thing http://rafb.net/p/NeKZQw34.html
[22:56] <musikgoat> installed the wrong disk maybe ? :-)
[22:56] <soundray> SeaPhor: it wouldn't be the first incidence of a mislabelling scam
[22:56] <connor> balleyene: I know how to change it with mp3 files and such
[22:56] <Cybergasm> does anyone know how to get my NVIDEA graphics card to work? once i install it causes an extreme graphic error after i reboot.
[22:56] <buntu0> jpw27_: no problem, looking no
[22:56] <buntu0> w
[22:56] <connor> right click the device/file and go to open with
[22:57] <Jordan_U> wolfdart, install linux-headers-generic then try the command given in the error
[22:57] <connor> cybergasm: did you update your drivers?
[22:57] <wolfdart> Jordan_U, hmmm, ok! ill try!
[22:57] <aguitel> is safe to mark the repo hardy proposed ?
[22:57] <SeaPhor> soundray, lol, i pulled it out of a new Compaq, had vista and customer said to put XP on it at any cost,,, brand new PC-lol
[22:58] <jussi01> aguitel: no, it may break stuff
[22:58] <SeaPhor> soundray, brb, shutting down to pull it, brb
[22:58] <Cybergasm> connor: how do i update my drivers
[22:58] <DIL> had to reinstall OS 8.04 but my sound devices are not recognized by the system attemts to open sound gives "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[22:58] <soundray> aguitel: it's not as safe as the standard repositories, as the software is not as well tested. Ultimately, you have to make this decision for yourself, though.
[22:58] <soundray> !proposed | aguitel
[22:58] <soundray> oops
[22:58] <kantor> hi, please excuse this advertising but I think it is a useful one:  a volunteer developers channel is registered on freenode: ##vd,  if you are searching for developers, doc translators . . .  or if developers are searching for projects to join, probably it is a good place there ;-)
[22:59] <aguitel> jussi01: because in this repo you can upgrade firefox to rc2
[22:59] <jussi01> aguitel: likely, but its in testing at the moment - the repo's contents may break stuff
[22:59] <soundray> aguitel: why do you want rc2?
[22:59] <aguitel> soundray: stable version
[22:59] <ola1> hello linux world!
[23:00] <julle_> When installing Java support, should i install The Java (TM) SE 6 or 5 ?
[23:00] <soundray> aguitel: do you have stability issues with the beta?
[23:00] <buntu0> julle_: 6 is newer
[23:00] <Cybergasm> how do update my video graphics card?
[23:00] <Sonderblade> i disabled tracker a while ago so that it wound't start its indexing when i login... but now it is back, arg!
[23:00] <aguitel> soundray: some times it close
[23:00] <Jordan_U> julle_, 6
[23:00] <jussi01> Cybergasm: are you able to log in to a GUI?
[23:00] <wolfdart> Jordan_U, Its installed... i will reinstall
[23:01] <julle_> Jordan_U: okey thx
[23:01] <Sonderblade> it always starts at inopportune time, never when the system is idle
[23:01] <soundray> aguitel: do you know when? Can you reproduce a situation where it will crash?
[23:01] <lesjohn> when i add a cron job with crontab -e, where is it stored?
[23:02] <Jordan_U> lesjohn, /var/spool/cron
[23:02] <aguitel> soundray: when for example many flash are loading in the site
[23:02] <aguitel> soundray: the site is very load
[23:03] <soundray> aguitel: that's much more likely to be an issue with the flash plugin than with firefox itself.
[23:03] <ola1> question: i am sitting on a 3 year old computer, WindowsXP. Want to clean the computer and re-install with Ubuntu on it.
[23:03] <ola1> i've got Ubuntu burned on a CD. Is it possible to boot from CD and delete everything with on the laptop with this CD for then to install Ubuntu?
[23:03] <balleyne> connor: thank, but I'm trying to change the default application that opens when the audio player is mounted (as opposed to when I open a particular file) =\
[23:03] <soundray> ola1: yes
[23:03] <aguitel> soundray: maybe but with firefox 2 nothigs happens
[23:04] <soundray> ola1: boot up and the installation wizard will guide you
[23:04] <ola1> ok, thanks soundray ;)
[23:04] <iateshaggy> ola1: that is excacly what the cd will do
[23:04] <connor> oh
[23:04] <musikgoat> ola1: yes, when installing, the partition wizard will give you that choice
[23:04] <connor> hmm
[23:04] <lbg> :'( Someone help!  Wubi is acting up on me!
[23:04] <Wyleyrabbit_> Hi people!
[23:04] <connor> hi
[23:04] <iateshaggy> anyone wanna help me configure a vid card, the usual routes aren't woring
[23:04] <connor> wyleyrabbit: whats your problewm
[23:04] <jpw27_> buntu0: anything obvious, or is something just messed up on my end?
[23:04] <connor> iateshaggy: i might be able to help
[23:04] <connor> iateshaggy: whats the problem?
[23:04] <ether> Hm, neat.
[23:04] <iateshaggy> conner, pm?
[23:04] <ola1> looking forward to re-discover computer world :)
[23:04] <wolfdart> Jordan_U, happened the same error! look the error log file, if possible: http://pastebin.org/42455
[23:05] <shelbyscates> hey guys i have a hardware ish issue
[23:05] <connor> whats the problem?
[23:05] <Wyleyrabbit_> I would like to create a custom icon for a launcher in ubuntu. What file format does it need to be in, because when I browse to the PNG I created, the launcher icon browser doesn't see it.
[23:05] <iateshaggy> driver fails to load during boot
[23:05] <connor> .ico i think?
[23:05] <lbg> I have a wubi problem
[23:05] <Jordan_U> wolfdart, install build-essential
[23:05] <prodigel> Hi all. I've upgraded to <IP_ADDRESS> and my wireless net card isn't automatically added. I've checked with modprobe -l, the module seems to be loaded, but ifconfig shows no card. Can someone pls help me with this?
[23:05] <connor> lbg: i use wubi, whats the problem?
[23:05] <shelbyscates> i have a usb light, and i want to make it so when data is written to a certain folder in my hard drive, ubuntu activates the usb port and lights it up so i know that its writing it
[23:05] <The_ManU_212> my standby works sometimes, and sometimes not, using nvidia
[23:05] <shelbyscates> can i do that?
[23:05] <soundray> aguitel: okay, I follow your reasoning. If it was my problem, I'd upgrade to rc2, but there can be no certainty that it will 1) solve your current problem and 2) not create new problems.
[23:05] <jpw27_> iateshaggy, you mean you have to install drivers ever time you boot
[23:05] <connor> lbg: whats the problem?
[23:05] <mDemocritus> shelbyscates: probably...
[23:06] <shelbyscates> all i need to know is how to set up how to make it supply power to the port upon write to a directory
[23:06] <soundray> aguitel: when you've done the upgrade, I recommend removing the proposed repository again.
[23:06] <mDemocritus> shelbyscates: it's gonna supply power to the port regardles
[23:06] <aguitel> soundray: ok thanks
[23:06] <Skyrail> My hardware drivers app isn't showing up therefore restricting me from sorting out a current resolution problem, is there any other way I can install nVida drivers?
[23:06] <DIL> had to reinstall 8.04 but my sound devices are not recognized by the system - attemts to open sound gives "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[23:06] <iateshaggy> jpw27_: no, i install driver, configure xorg, reboot, and it hangs up while in the loading page
[23:06] <wolfdart> Jordan_U, trying...
[23:06] <shelbyscates> mDemocritus: well, is there any way to make it not supply power to a certain port unless told otherwise? :P
[23:06] <mDemocritus> shelbyscates: that's in hardware
[23:06] <shelbyscates> hardware?
[23:07] <lusius> uhm i have a problem, when i try to watch a film, the colors are just blueish  :( i've tried to install different codecs, but they're all the same
[23:07] <soundray> aguitel: I personally use backports and proposed all the time, but I'm a bit adventurous and I trust myself to fix any problems that might arise.
[23:07] <mDemocritus> shelbyscates: that i doubt... but maybe
[23:07] <iateshaggy> connor: jpw27_ i tried every driver in envy already
[23:07] <shelbyscates> #ubuntu-hardware?
[23:07] <connor> lusius: its probably your graphics drivers
[23:07] <greg_> Need suggestions on webcam with 8.04.  Demsg shows installed and recognized, Ekiga works with cam, cannot get Cheese or Camorama to see the cam. Please, linux newb, so use little words  :)
[23:07] <x0rg62> fuck !
[23:07] <connor> what
[23:07] <joanki123> can anyone tell me how i can get openGL?
[23:07] <Jordan_U> soundray, Does that package have the patch for the rsync problem?
[23:07] <aguitel> soundray: backports are worse than proposed
[23:07] <connor> jaonki123: go to the terminal and type in opengl
[23:07] <linuxmonkey> x0rg62: WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE
[23:07] <connor> joanki123: type opengl in the terminal
[23:07] <mDemocritus> shelbyscates: no i mean that's controlled by the hardware, i don't think you can turn it off, but you might
[23:08] <soundray> x0rg62: please behave professionally in this channel.
[23:08] <soundray> Jordan_U: what package?
[23:08] <lusius> connor, but all other 3d apps are working fine ....
[23:08] <joanki123> connor, : command not found
[23:08] <connor> hmm
[23:08] <soundray> aguitel: no, they aren't
[23:08] <connor> whats not working
[23:08] <x0rg62> linuxmonkey: WATCH YOUR NICK
[23:08] <Jordan_U> greg_, try changing the video input setting in gstreamer-properties ( start it from a terminal or run dialog )
[23:08] <connor> brb
[23:08] <Jordan_U> soundray, the firefox3 RC1 in proposed
[23:08] <soundray> x0rg62: do you have a support question?
[23:09] <balleyne> !opengl | joankil23
[23:09] <jpw27_> iateshaggy, what kind of card do you have
[23:09] <greg_> Jordan_U,  k, will try... thanks
[23:09] <x0rg62> soundray: why ?
[23:09] <jpw27_> iateshaggy, what kind of card do you have
[23:09] <soundray> Jordan_U: I don't know.
[23:09] <iateshaggy> jpw27_: nvidia 6200
[23:09] <joanki123> connor, i'm trying to install a program that depends on it, and it says: Could not figure out how to use the OpenGL software development kit on this system.
[23:09] <musikgoat> Jordan_U: yes RC1 is
[23:09] <soundray> x0rg62: because this is a ubuntu support channel, and anything else is offtopic
[23:09] <jpw27_> iateshaggy, didn't mean to send that twice, sorry.  is envy the only way you've tried to install drivers?
[23:09] <x0rg62> soundray: cool
[23:10] <Link_of_Hyrule> hey
[23:10] <iateshaggy> jpw27_: i have also tried synaptic and restricted driver mgmt
[23:10] <Link_of_Hyrule> I think i found the source of my problems
[23:10] <Link_of_Hyrule> so i need ur help to fix it
[23:10] <Link_of_Hyrule> when i start in recover mode i looked thru it and found this
[23:10] <jpw27_> alright, well doing it from the command line is your next option.  hold on, iateshaggy
[23:11] <iateshaggy> jpw27_: can i pm u, this is a bit much for me
[23:11] <shelbyscates> how do i controll my serial port in ubuntu?
[23:11] <Link_of_Hyrule> mount:mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/246ce4ed6ce4bb26on/root
[23:11] <shelbyscates> i need a tutorial or something
[23:11] <Link_of_Hyrule> faied:success
[23:11] <soundray> !minicom | shelbyscates
[23:11] <musikgoat> shelbyscates: minicom is one was
[23:11] <musikgoat> *way
[23:11] <soundray> !info minicom | shelbyscates
[23:11] <connor> ubottu
[23:12] <shelbyscates> musikgoat: thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!! :):):):):)
[23:12] <jpw27_> iateshaggy, why? does your IRC client make it obvious that I'm talking to you?
[23:12] <Link_of_Hyrule> mount:mounting /rooton/host failed: invalid argument Alert!/hosy/ubuntu/disks/root.disk does not exist dropping to shell
[23:12] <fenrisx> Could someone possibly take a guess at what I'm not doing right...  I've installed Flash and Java, but YouTube videos won't show up.  :/  Just a blank white area where the video should be.
[23:12] <fenrisx> what I'm doing wrong*
[23:12] <MaarekStele> I have a question about samba and setting it up so that my XP machine can map a drive to it
[23:12] <iateshaggy> jpw27_: yes it does, i just hate busy channels
[23:13] <neobardo> same as fenrisx
[23:13] <soundray> fenrisx: have you installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[23:13] <mDemocritus> !past | Link_of_Hyrule
[23:13] <jpw27_> iateshaggy, alright.  the only thing i have few you is a few command lines.  you can if you feel the need
[23:13] <lbg> :-( HELP!!!  wubi won't install ubuntu!
[23:13] <mDemocritus> !paste | Link_of_Hyrule
[23:13] <VikJES> MaarekStele: I've done this successfully, how can I help you
[23:13] <fenrisx> It's showing that it is installed.  Then I check it again for reinstall.
[23:13] <^Ocean^> Is it possible too Run 2 uSB mice at the same time ?
[23:13] <RequinB4> !virus
[23:13] <VSpike> I'm puzzled - df shows a volume as being 377501224 big, but df -h shows 361G.  But 377501224/(1024*1024) = 360.01
[23:13] <soundray> ^Ocean^: yes, but they will both control the same pointer
[23:13] <MaarekStele> VikJES: it's installed and I've setup the user, but I still cannot connect from my XP machine
[23:14] <^Ocean^> And Can I Run 2 Keyboreds at the same time?
[23:14] <VSpike> what am i missing?
[23:14] <soundray> ^Ocean^: yes
[23:14] <Jordan_U> ^Ocean^, Yes, but if you want them to be separate cursors / inputs you will need to run two X sessions
[23:14] <VikJES> MaarekStele: On the XP box, you get nothing? No authentication window popping up?
[23:15] <^Ocean^> soundray, Okay, now I know I can run 2 Xservers at the same time,   Can I make One X server ues one set of mice KB/mouse, and make the other X server Bind too the Othre Keybored and mouse ?
[23:15] <Link_of_Hyrule> sorry abotu that i forgot dude
[23:15] <^Ocean^> Jordan_U: ahh that just answerd my Next Question haha.
[23:15] <VikJES> MaarekStele: when you try to access the samba share that is
[23:15] <MaarekStele> VikJES: the authenticaton pops up, but it's not registering the user and pass that I created
[23:15] <Jordan_U> ^Ocean^, I am pretty sure it's possible, but I have no idea how to do it :)
[23:15] <fenrisx> Just checked again, and flashplugin-nonfree is installed in the Synaptic Package Manager.
[23:15] <soundray> ^Ocean^: I think this may somehow be possible, but I have no relevant experience.
[23:15] <Link_of_Hyrule> ok
[23:15] <musikgoat> MaarekStele: you likely need to setup smbpasswd
[23:16] <MaarekStele> VikJES: I try to map the drive, and the authentication pops up.  but when I put in the user and password it won't let me in
[23:16] <joanki123> can anyone tell me how i can get openGL?
[23:16] <Link_of_Hyrule> here is the error i saw in recovery mode that i wrote down
[23:16] <Link_of_Hyrule> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18589/
[23:16] <fenrisx> version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2
[23:16] <^Ocean^> Jordan_U/soundray, So Technicaly I could more or less set up a Dumb Terminal useing 2 Kb/mice and a dual Display Setup ?
[23:16] <musikgoat> MaarekStele: sudo smbpasswd username
[23:16] <ola1> Another Q: Before re-installing Ubuntu would it be wise to check out my hardware, or will Ubuntu find the names of these devices automatically?
[23:16] <soundray> fenrisx: please use my nick so your replies are highlighted. Do you also have gnash installed?
[23:17] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to unlock a cd drive that got locked while trying to write something to it with k3b?
[23:17] <MaarekStele> musikgoat: I did that, but it still didn't work, one moment I'll try resetting the user
[23:17] <VikJES> MaarekStele: I'd like to see your smb.conf file...
[23:17] <soundray> ^Ocean^: you'd have to have two graphics cards, as far as I know
[23:17] <Link_of_Hyrule> i guess u guys are busy i have to go eat ill be back in a bit
[23:17] <fenrisx> soundray: My bad.. I'm used to talking in slower IRC channels. :)  I'm not sure if GNash is installed or not.  Today is my first day using linux, and I was just following a guide about the 'first 13 things to do after installing linux."  That's where I did what htye said to install Flash and Java.
[23:17] <lbg> I NEED HELP, i used wubi to install ubuntu but when I restarted, it couldn't partition swap.disk or something!!!!
[23:17] <fenrisx> soundray: Where would I look to see if gnash is installed?
[23:17] <^Ocean^> soundray:  Well i know with my Gfx card I can run 2 Xsessions,  one on each display
[23:17] <VikJES> MaarekStele: did you create a samba user with the smbpasswd command?
[23:18] <soundray> fenrisx: in the same place where you looked up flashplugin-nonfree ... -- synaptic perhaps?
[23:18] <MaarekStele> VikJES: yes:  sudo smbpasswd username
[23:19] <soundray> ^Ocean^: I understand, but your two X sessions are running off a single xorg.conf
[23:19] <shelbyscates> hey guys i need a script that can activate a usb port or something similar when data is written to a certain place in my hard drive..... any help here?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> ^Ocean^, I can think of a way you could possibly hack it to work
[23:19] <shelbyscates> im just being annoying.. :P
[23:19] <musikgoat> MaarekStele: if its a new samba user, use the -a flag
[23:19] <SeaPhor> soundray, musikgoat , had mis-read label- had a mfg part that read "250 G Hitachi si2", but further down said "capacity 160gb", sorry, i'm an idiot, lol
[23:19] <VikJES> MaarekStele: musikgoat is right
[23:19] <fenrisx> soundray: gnash, and gnash common are installed.  However, gnash-tools and gnash-cygnal are not.
[23:19] <soundray> fenrisx: please give me the URL for that guide
[23:19] <mDemocritus> SeaPhor: ouch you got screwed :D
[23:20] <graft> hi, my firefox doesn't seem to be able to do DNS lookups at all
[23:20] <musikgoat> SeaPhor: heh, didn't seem right
[23:20] <^Ocean^> soundray: Well i remember from previous xorg.conf hacking, you can have multipal sessions in the file, and Call what one via a start up script
[23:20] <soundray> fenrisx: gnash conflicts with flashplugin-nonfree. You should remove it and restart firefox
[23:20] <SeaPhor> now, how do i mount it for storage and have it mounted at start-up?
[23:20] <soundray> SeaPhor: I disagree
[23:20] <fenrisx> soundray: Alright, I will give that a shot.  Thanks!   Here is the link: http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/02/13-things-to-do-immediately-after.html
[23:20] <musikgoat> SeaPhor: edit /etc/fstab
[23:20] <MaarekStele> VikJES: are they any changes needed for the smb.conf file?
[23:20] <joanki123> anyone here know how i can get openGL?? thanks
[23:20] <lbg> HELLO?!
[23:20] <soundray> SeaPhor: I think it's a foul marketing trick to label a drive like that. No reason to be too self-critical.
[23:20] <khem> I have install dhcp3-server and configured it. It works correctly but does not start when I reboot. I have to do /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start after reboot manually
[23:20] <musikgoat> MaarekStele: pastebin your smb.conf
[23:21] <MaarekStele> musikgoat: pastebin? I'm not familiar with that command
[23:21] <VikJES> MaarekStele: I don't know because I usually create the smb.conf file from scratch
[23:21] <musikgoat> !pastebin
[23:21] <Wyleyrabbit_> I must be missing something.
[23:21] <SeaPhor> soundray, how do i mount it as storage and have it be mounted at start
[23:21] <lbg> soundray: do you know anything about wubi
[23:21] <soundray> SeaPhor: is it ntfs?
[23:21] <wolfdart> Jordan_U, everything was compiled, but another error happened: http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotvirtualboxcribb1.png ! I will cry! =D
[23:21] <MaarekStele> VikJES: when installing using the sudo apt-get install samba, the file is created on it's own
[23:22] <fenrisx> soundray: That did the trick.  Thanks
[23:22] <soundray> lbg: I know it's still a bit experimental. If you have problems, I would recommend a full install in a partition.
[23:22] <VikJES> MaarekStele: Yes I know, but I usually delete it and use my own instead
[23:22] <soundray> fenrisx: this guide is slightly outdated if you have hardy
[23:22] <SeaPhor> soundray, ext3,, and heres the ls:  wbc@wbc-desktop:/dev/disk/by-id$ ls    ata-Hitachi_HDS721616PLA380_PVB300Z2TUHXXF        scsi-1ATA_Hitachi_HDS721616PLA380_PVB300Z2TUHXXF   ata-Hitachi_HDS721616PLA380_PVB300Z2TUHXXF-part1  scsi-1ATA_Hitachi_HDS721616PLA380_PVB300Z2TUHXXF-part1
[23:22] <MaarekStele> VikJES: any good sites where someone posted a good one?
[23:22] <soundray> fenrisx: please be careful
[23:23] <joanki123> sorry to keep asking, but i am still unable to get openGL.... does anyone know of how i can find out how i can get it on my system?  it would be most greatly appreciated
[23:23] <Wyleyrabbit_> I would like to use different icons for a launcher than the few that are listed when I click the "springy" launcher icon. As soon as I click "browse", nothing shows including icons in the "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/" dir. Anyone know what's going on?
[23:23] <VikJES> MaarekStele: Dunno
[23:23] <MaarekStele> VikJES: thanks
[23:23] <musikgoat> MaarekStele: samba.org
[23:23] <MaarekStele> AFK
[23:23] <soundray> !fstab | SeaPhor
[23:23] <lbg> soundray: My mom gets furious when I install anything that re-partitions your harddrive
[23:23] <MaarekStele> ah, samba.org
[23:23] <MaarekStele> good, thanks guys
[23:23] <soundray> lbg: erm... ask your mum for your own computer ;)
[23:24] <fenrisx> soundray: I have do have hardy..  Thanks for the tip.  I just used it to get VLC, GoogleEarth, and Flash Installed.
[23:24] <VikJES> MaarekStele: can you access the share from another Ubuntu box
[23:25] <matija> hey guys
[23:25] <matija> is there any other archiver than ark that can manipulate zip,rar, tar and other files ?? ark cant open rar with password.
[23:25] <theFATMAN> how do i delete a file when rm doesnt work or force?
[23:25] <musikgoat> matija: file-roller?
[23:26] <linuxmonkey> !rar
[23:26] <Maimster> Morning all.
[23:26] <klaes> hi, my wifi suddenly just stopped working...
[23:26] <matija> thats is file manager for gnome
[23:26] <klaes> wasnt doing anything
[23:26] <matija> musikgoat, anything for kde ?
[23:26] <klaes> even looking away from the computer while it was playing music
[23:26] <klaes> when i look back, no wifi...
[23:26] <SeaPhor> soundray, but it doesnt show in gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, and i dont know the uuid>?
[23:26] <ola1> Before formating hdd and re-install of new OS, would it be wise to check out my hardware, or will Ubuntu find the names of these devices automatically?
[23:27] <musikgoat> mDemocritus whats the archive manager for kde?
[23:27] <klaes> tried ifconfig wlan0 down
[23:27] <klaes> ifconfig wlan0 up
[23:27] <soundray> !blkid | SeaPhor
[23:27] <klaes> n i get the following
[23:27] <yell0w> klaes:  dolphin ?
[23:27] <klaes> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
[23:27] <musikgoat> matija: sorry he must be afk
[23:27] <klaes> yell0w, nope, what you even talkin about?
[23:27] <janice8951> !LAMP Server
[23:27] <janice8951> !LAMP
[23:28] <mDemocritus> musikgoat: i don't know offhand
[23:28] <yell0w> klaes: file manager for kde ?
[23:28] <shelbyscates> is there any way to controll external devices easily?
[23:28] <klaes> yell0w, nope, i dont use kde
[23:28] <theFATMAN> how do i delete a file when rm doesnt work or force?
[23:28] <shelbyscates> barnie: just simple circuts connected via a port?
[23:28] <janice8951> Anyone know how to turn my Dapper Box into a server without installing Ubuntu Server edition?
[23:28] <yell0w> klaes: oh nvm, thought you asked for one
[23:28] <klaes> yell0w, i use some gnome, but my window manager is stumpwm
[23:28] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: sudo
[23:28] <soundray> theFATMAN: what's the error message?
[23:28] <klaes> yell0w, no... just, cant make my wifi work...
[23:29] <matija> okay thats it
[23:29] <symbioin> hi 2 all
[23:29] <theFATMAN> soundray: it says the file doesnt exist, but i am staring at it\
[23:29] <matija> KDE is nice and amarok works fast and better than in gnome
[23:29] <soundray> janice8951: the factoid you just called up tells you everything
[23:29] <matija> but everything else is much simpler in gnome for me
[23:29] <janice8951> That actually does work soundray?
[23:29] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: sudo rm ./yourfile
[23:29] <matija> I'm off to reinstall
[23:29] <soundray> theFATMAN: does the filename contain spaces?
[23:29] <shelbyscates> when your in the directory of the file
[23:29] <klaes> anybody tried getting a "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device" error after "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"??
[23:29] <janice8951> klaes: do you have a Broadcom chipset?
[23:29] <SeaPhor> soundray, can i combine both sda1 and sda2 (both 160gb formatted ext3) to be 1 volume and have a 320gb volume labeled /storage?
[23:29] <shelbyscates> you sometimes have to tell it
[23:29] <theFATMAN> sounray: no no noooo
[23:29] <klaes> janice8951, i got intel
[23:29] <theFATMAN> lol
[23:30] <soundray> janice8951: of course lamp works -- the majority of the world's web servers run on it.
[23:30] <leoncamel_> OK. I found the kernel 2.6.24-18 is quite unstable here...
[23:30] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: does tab completion fill it in?
[23:30] <SeaPhor> soundray, or raid0 them (mirror)
[23:30] <theFATMAN> musikgoat: no
[23:30] <klaes> janice8951, but it seems, when i look on forums around that people with all kinda chipsets get the same...
[23:30] <soundray> SeaPhor: yes, you can do that
[23:30] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: enter the directory its in, and type: 'sudo rm ./(yourfilehere)' without the quotes or parenthesies
[23:30] <soundray> !raid | SeaPhor
[23:30] <janice8951> yeah, but I don't really want a webserver. Is that the best idea? I am only trying to use this a host computer for Storing files that I can access from pretty much anywhere.
[23:30] <klaes> janice8951, so if you got any ideas it'd be a help :)
[23:31] <theFATMAN> shelbyscates: i did that, thats what is mindboggling about it
[23:31] <janice8951> Well, my Broadcom chipset was easy to install because of fwcutter
[23:31] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: sometimes you have to tell it the full path to the file you wanna delete.
[23:31] <nickolaus> Did something happen to SSH with the recent updates?
[23:31] <Jordan_U> ^Ocean^, You can also run Xorg -config /path/to/xorg.conf{1,2}
[23:31] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: hhhhm. :\
[23:31] <x0rg62> rooo
[23:31] <klaes> anybody got ideas?
[23:31] <drew_> paart
[23:31] <janice8951> I only had to install the driver using ndiswrapper and then run fwcutter
[23:31] <SeaPhor> soundray, i'd rather volume to get the 320g if i can, is that also at the link you just sent?
[23:31] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: does ls -al show it?
[23:31] <graft> nickolaus: probably you mean the openssl bug fix
[23:31] <theFATMAN> shelbyscates: it's on my desktop, lol, so....
[23:31] <soundray> SeaPhor: yes (LVM)
[23:32] <klaes> janice8951, kk...
[23:32] <graft> nickolaus: there was a HUGE bug in openssl that got closed, so you have to regenerate all your ssh keys now
[23:32] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: is it a simple file or is it a directory?
[23:32] <Rampage> janice8951: Sorry whats that about using your computer as a fileserver?
[23:32] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: i've seen that sometimes with ghost mount points
[23:32] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: it's just a file, a png
[23:32] <nickolaus> graft how do I go about doing that?
[23:32] <klaes> janice8951, well, really easy to install here too, or rather, it did it automatically, but just suddenly now, after using this for like... 3 weeks?? it drops out
[23:32] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: hhm.....
[23:32] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: do you see it in terminal ls -al ~/Desktop
[23:32] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN:  does ls -a show the file?
[23:32] <soundray> theFATMAN: are there any other pngs on your desktop?
[23:32] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: thats what i said
[23:33] <graft> nickolaus: the host keys it should do itself - if you have any keys in ~/.ssh just delete them and regenerate them as usual
[23:33] <Tortilla_Sam> !wifi
[23:33] <theFATMAN> soundray: yeah, thers a few
[23:33] <janice8951> Rampage, I think Apache might do what I need it to. I just want be able to access and store files on this host machine. Then be able to access those files from virtually anywhere.
[23:33] <leoncamel_> It crashed few times when the harddisk operation is high. for example open Bittorrent client and aMule at same time. and another problem here is, the alsa driver hang up frequently. I have to "alsa force-reload" manually ... :( ..
[23:33] <graft> nickolaus: assuming you upgraded your packages from security.ubuntu.com
[23:33] <janice8951> I wanted to network all my computer, but then I realized that I am not smart enough to do so, because everything has to complicated
[23:33] <Tortilla_Sam> alright, thanks in mac os x it asks username and password after you put in ip
[23:34] <Rampage> janice8951: If you don't want a webserver, you can always use an ftp server (say proftpd) or sftp (using openssh-server)
[23:34] <soundray> theFATMAN: does it look strange in ls -al output ( musikgoat's suggestion)? If you paste only the one line, you paste it in the channel
[23:34] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: just open your hard drive and move the bits to the trash with a butter knife! (WARNING: this action can not be undone!"
[23:34] <soundray> *can
[23:34] <janice8951> Rampage: will that allow me to read and write?
[23:34] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: funny
[23:34] <musikgoat> lol@shelbyscates
[23:34] <SeaPhor> soundray, would it be better to get the LVM2 from synaptics?
[23:34] <Rampage> janice8951: As long as you set the permissions correctly yes
[23:35] <shelbyscates> what terminal are you using? konsole, xterm, or just a regular ubuntu terminal?
[23:35] <DarkAudit> !banshee
[23:35] <shawn_selig29> hi
[23:35] <soundray> SeaPhor: sorry, I don't use LVM or RAID -- can't help.
[23:35] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: i'm not a moron, it jst won't delete, as crazy as that sounds
[23:35] <janice8951> Yeah I have been trying to figure how setup an ftp server, but every command I enter is wrong wrong wrong and does not work.
[23:35] <Link_of_Hyrule> Ok can someone help me now my computer boots to the busybox its a installation within windows
[23:35] <Jordan_U> wolfdart, Try running "mv ~/.VirtualBox ~/VirtualBox-bak" then opening virtualbox again
[23:35] <janice8951> Is there one a GUI setup?
[23:35] <Rampage> janice8951: ftp and sftp (scp) is a lot better than http for filestorage
[23:35] <shelbyscates> hhhmmm....
[23:35] <shawn_selig29>  can anyone tell me what is new in the new version of ubuntu since version 7?
[23:35] <musikgoat> janice8951: gproftpd
[23:35] <janice8951> Has a GUI setup?
[23:35] <Rampage> janice8951: I think gproftpd has a gui
[23:36] <musikgoat> yup
[23:36] <Rampage> For server applications I prefer command line config
[23:36] <Link_of_Hyrule> Can anyone help me please?
[23:36] <BobCFC> shawn_selig29: 8.04  for 2008.april
[23:36] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: this is what i would do: open nautilus and navigate to your desktop, fine the image, and drag the image to the trash (the little orange square in the bottom left of your screen)
[23:36] <BorkisDrizzt> how do I check if I have a package installed?
[23:37] <shelbyscates> BOTTOM RIGHT****
[23:37] <shawn_selig29> i mean like any improvements or features since version 7?
[23:37] <Rampage> BorkisDrizzt: sudo aptitude show <package>
[23:37] <shelbyscates> sry, we kids have left and right issues :P
[23:37] <wolfdart> Jordan_U, WOWWWWWWW!!! Works now!! Tks man!! =DDD
[23:37] <magic_ninja> well not good
[23:37] <magic_ninja> i found spliced wires in my case going to my power button
[23:37] <musikgoat> hotness
[23:37] <janice8951> klaes: sorry the same happened to me. It actually died on me after installing another package.
[23:37] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: did that work?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> shawn_selig29, 7.04 or 7.10? ( they are two different versions, the numbers represent the year and month they were released )
[23:38] <Jordan_U> wolfdart, np :)
[23:38] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: tried to drag it to my trash (not bttm right for me) and it won't delete, it says it doesnt exist, same as when i try from the terminal
[23:38] <soundray> shelbyscates: you kids have issues left, right and center ;)
[23:38] <neobardo> hi everyone !!! I'm completely noob in linux, and recently i have installed the Ubuntu 8.04LTS in my PC because i have OS study in school, but i have a few problems and don't get a solution
[23:38] <shelbyscates> ah
[23:38] <shelbyscates> soundray: XD
[23:38] <soundray> theFATMAN: please paste the ls -la output for that file
[23:38] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: you never answered, does the file even show when you type ls -al ~/Desktop
[23:38] <BobCFC> shawn_selig29: it's mainly about the new gnome 2.22 lots of small improvements, also Firefox3 and new versions of all software
[23:38] <Link_of_Hyrule> I need help please
[23:38] <shawn_selig29> ok....i will install ubuntu on my laptop if i can sync my dell axim x50v pocket pc with wm6 with ubuntu?
[23:39] <graft> argh... i can't browse with firefox at all
[23:39] <Boxxxer> hello
[23:39] <janice8951> I actually removed the driver from ndiswrapper. Completely removed fwcutter, then I ran re installed fwcutter told it fetch and install firmware and then installed the driver back to ndiswrapper. That didn't do the trick, so then I simply removed fwcutter and it worked. Kinda redundant I know, but it works.
[23:39] <theFATMAN> musikgoat: srry, no it doesnt thats what is nuts, my system says it doesnt exist, but i'm looking at it right now
[23:39] <BobCFC> shawn_selig29: there are not so many big changes because this is a long term release that is meant to be stable for 3 years.  the next version is going to have more changes
[23:39] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: then the desktop is ghosting
[23:39] <medioman> Any idea on how having zd1211 based cards working on Hardy? My Sitecom WL-113 freezes the pc every now and again.
[23:39] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: can you open it?
[23:39] <jussi01> hi Boxxxer
[23:39] <sapph> I just converted from XP to Ubuntu.  At first I was running off a LiveCD, and everything worked fine, so I did the install.  No problems there.  Then I went to update, and it updated me to 'Hearty Heron' or something like that.  Ever since that update, I have been unable to connect to my local network.  Trying DHCP just nets me a private IP, and static IPs won't even let me ping my router.  The LiveCD DOES work though - and its an older ve
[23:39] <tayfun> HELLO PEOPLE I WAS HIER AND ASK TO EVERYONE ABOUT UBUNTU 3D DESKTOP CUBE COMBIZ AND NOW I GOT IT THANKS TO EVERYONE HIER ITS COOL I LOVE IT
[23:40] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: save proggies and logout and log back in
[23:40] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: yeah
[23:40] <tayfun> I CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS BESIDE CUBE TOO
[23:40] <jussi01> Boxxxer: just saw your conversation in #freenode
[23:40] <musikgoat> !caps
[23:40] <tayfun> ok
[23:40] <tayfun> :)
[23:40] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: i did that, rebooted, the whole nine--still nothing =(
[23:40] <soundray> sapph: first thing to check is whether your update completed: 'sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[23:40] <shelbyscates> do what musikgoat says theFATMAN
[23:40] <jussi01> !appdb | Boxxxer - this may help:
[23:41] <tayfun> but room tell me pls how can i put  a animated desktop picture
[23:41] <theFATMAN> musikgoat:: i did that, rebooted, the whole nine--still nothing =(
[23:41] <tayfun> i want to have some clock maybe or a water but i want that they move
[23:41] <Link_of_Hyrule> I need help!!
[23:41] <tayfun> how can i do it?
[23:41] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: :(
[23:41] <Boxxxer> please help me... i want to play Mortal Kombat 4 on Ubuntu... I have the very latest WINE instaled but the game demands that a CD is inserted... I've downloaded this game so I don't have a CD... there's a mk4.reg file but i don't know how to enter that information into the registry... help
[23:41] <graft> !ask > Link_of_Hyrule
[23:41] <Link_of_Hyrule> My pc boots into the busy box
[23:41] <amen51> hi everyone, commandline question:
[23:41] <johnnypea> tayfun: try screenlets
[23:41] <sapph> soundray: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[23:41] <tayfun> what u mean with screenlets?
[23:41] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: try threatening your computer with a ubuntu install cd, they usually comply
[23:41] <johnnypea> !screenlets
[23:42] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: thats new to me then...  what would cause a file to show on the desktop even after clearing it... odd
[23:42] <Rampage> amen51: whats the question
[23:42] <Link_of_Hyrule> !ask My pc boots into the busy box its a with-in windows install heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/18589/
[23:42] <niuq> http://pastebin.ca/1042408 i have this error while installing java
[23:42] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: try booting from "failsafe gnome" or "failsafe terminal" and doing it from there ?
[23:42] <niuq> get*
[23:42] <soundray> sapph: is this a wireless interface?
[23:42] <neobardo> I need help :    I don't see videos in sites like youtube....
[23:42] <Link_of_Hyrule> !ask help
[23:42] <Link_of_Hyrule> My pc boots into the busy box its a with-in windows install heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/18589/
[23:42] <sapph> No.  I have two wired interfaces
[23:42] <Aslanix> hi
[23:43] <janice8951> neobardo: You either need Java or Flash plugin
[23:43] <klaes> janice8951, ill giv it a try
[23:43] <amen51> Hi Rampage, suppose you want to search "-a" in cp man pages using "man cp | grep "-a"". How would you escape -a so that grep does not treat it as an option
[23:43] <csip> hi all
[23:43] <tayfun> hey people i was in that screenlets website
[23:43] <tayfun> there is a lot of words that i dont even know
[23:43] <tayfun> which one should i download
[23:43] <amen51> Rampage, "-a" and \-a does not work
[23:43] <soundray> sapph: the one you're trying to use, does it have activity LEDs near the socket?
[23:43] <shelbyscates> ae there any people here who are very good at controllin g simple circuts with a serial port or something?
[23:43] <janice8951> neobardo: do you see somewhere on the page that tell you to install plugin?
[23:43] <musikgoat> amen single quotes?
[23:43] <SeaPhor> soundray, ok, no raid, no lvm, i want to mount 1 as /storage and the other as /ftp (for ftp server), do i mount them as such and then edit fstab?
[23:44] <theFATMAN> musikgoat: what happened was somehow when i initially saved it, i accidentally added a letter after the .png ext without seeing it. then it saved it, and i noticed it afterwards. now i cant get rid of the dang thing
[23:44] <Boxxxer> any ideas fellas?
[23:44] <Link_of_Hyrule> My pc boots into the busy box its a with-in windows install heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/18589/
[23:44] <Rampage> amen51: do "man cp" and then once the man page opens do "/-a" and press enter
[23:44] <soundray> SeaPhor: you either mount them as such, or you tell your system (through fstab) that you want them mounted at each boot.
[23:44] <amen51> musikgoat, single quotes won't work either
[23:44] <Boxxxer> please help me... i want to play Mortal Kombat 4 on Ubuntu... I have the very latest WINE instaled but the game demands that a CD is inserted... I've downloaded this game so I don't have a CD... there's a mk4.reg file but i don't know how to enter that information into the registry... help me how to enter that info into the registry or something
[23:44] <sapph> soundray: I have no easy way of seeing the activity LEDs
[23:44] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: thats odd
[23:45] <amen51> Rampage, I know that, want to use grep, instead of sifting thru the man pages myself
[23:45] <tayfun> where can i get a animated desktop picture ???
[23:45] <shelbyscates> tayfun: its gotta be an animated .gif picture
[23:45] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: yeah, well i was working and watching my 2yr old, so i was a little divided
[23:45] <shelbyscates> or is it png i forget
[23:45] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: rofl
[23:46] <Aslanix> i recevied this error when trying to install ubuntu 8.04 : "ata2.00: exception mask SErr 0x0 action forzen ata2.00: cmd a0/0 : 00 00 ... tag 0 dma 96 status [dry] "  could any one plz help me with this issue?
[23:46] <tayfun> shelby ok but tell me how can i or where can i get this?
[23:46] <theFATMAN> .........
[23:46] <shelbyscates> tayfun: try googling "animated pictures" ?
[23:46] <klaes> janice8951, bah, gotta find out what its called for me...
[23:46] <SeaPhor> soundray, ok,, i am still a n00b so sorry for all the seemingly obvious questions, i'll go muck with it
[23:46] <amen51> Rampage, musikgoat, OK, this works: grep -e "-a", thank you guys.
[23:46] <tayfun> ok shelby thank u
[23:46] <soundray> sapph: I guess unplugging it would be hard, then, too
[23:46] <shelbyscates> tayfun: there might be a special plugn which you can use mpeg's as a background
[23:47] <johnnypea> pls how to I set to open my videos in VLC player?
[23:47] <tayfun> oki will try it now from google to find out
[23:47] <shelbyscates> tayfun: but im not sure... i dont even use gnome ;)
[23:47] <shelbyscates> ok
[23:47] <sapph> soundray: The interfaces worked fine in the LiveCD, which configured them in 'roaming' mode.  That doesn't work now, though.
[23:47] <Aslanix> again : i recevied this error when trying to install ubuntu 8.04 : "ata2.00: exception mask SErr 0x0 action forzen ata2.00: cmd a0/0 : 00 00 ... tag 0 dma 96 status [dry] "  could any one plz help me with this issue?
[23:47] <tayfun> if i got a problem i will come here and ask again :)
[23:47] <soundray> SeaPhor: maybe I sounded impatient there, that was not my intention
[23:47] <shelbyscates> tayfun:" yeah, thats my philosophy too
[23:47] <sapph> soundray: Actually, reaching back to unplug is not too bad.  But my arm is thinning than my head ;p
[23:47] <BobCFC> johnnypea: right-click on a file and choose "open with"
[23:47] <theFATMAN> .........
[23:47] <BobCFC> johnnypea: in properties
[23:47] <Guest67435> hey everyone
[23:48] <soundray> sapph: when you go through System-Admin-Network, you can't switch the interface to roaming?
[23:48] <Guest67435> does having an xbox 360 make me a linux traitor? lol
[23:48] <johnnypea> yes:) but I want to open it in VLC as default
[23:48] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: thats a really weird problem.... can you move the picture to another directory?
[23:48] <joanki123> for anyone who cares how i solved my opengl problem - i went to synaptic package manager, searched for nvidia
[23:48] <niuq> i get this error while installing java
[23:48] <niuq> http://pastebin.ca/1042408
[23:48] <BobCFC> johnnypea: yes if you look in properties you can choose the default program
[23:48] <joanki123> and installed the corresponding dev files for the driver
[23:48] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: yeah, i can try, brb
[23:48] <shelbyscates> k
[23:48] <jeed> what is the xorg options to get the nvidia driver to ignore edid? the Option     "IgnoreEDID"       "True" doesnt work..
[23:49] <johnnypea> aha I am such a noob :p thx man
[23:49] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: i think that will be useless, as the file really doesn't exist, only a graphic on the desktop
[23:49] <Guest67435> johnny you wanna get vlc for default media? i found that out a few days ago
[23:49] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: i might try moving it to a directory called "cache" on my desktop, and running 'sudo rm -rf ~/Desktop/cache/'
[23:49] <shelbyscates> but musikgoat might be right
[23:49] <BobCFC> johnnypea: no that confused me at first.. it lets you have different programs for mpg and avi etc
[23:49] <Jordan_U> What program displays the Desktop Background?
[23:50] <theFATMAN> shelbycates: no i cant move it either
[23:50] <theFATMAN> !$@#!%!#@$
[23:50] <shelbyscates> Jordan_U: its a daemon called xscreensaver
[23:50] <shelbyscates> i think
[23:50] <shelbyscates> ;)
[23:50] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: whats wrong?
 i found a lot of pictures i dont even know which one i should put but u think its safe ? has ubuntu no desktop pictures with animate where i can get??
[23:50] <soundray> theFATMAN: why don't you give us the ls -al output?
[23:50] <johnnypea> BobCFC: yeah I can see :)
[23:50] <musikgoat> soundray: he did, it doesn't exist
[23:51] <sapph> soundray: I certainly can switch it to roaming.  I can't ping anything regardless of whether it is in roaming or not, though.
[23:51] <shelbyscates> tayfun: no, there is no designated place for it.. they might not even animate once you put them in there, but yes, its completely safe, cause its just a picture and its ubuntu ;)
[23:51] <theFATMAN> musikgoat:exactly thats why i'm pulling my hair out
[23:51] <legend2440> theFATMAN: if you right click that file and choose properties does it give location?
[23:51] <Aslanix> i recevied this error when trying to install ubuntu 8.04 : "ata2.00: exception mask SErr 0x0 action forzen ata2.00: cmd a0/0 : 00 00 ... tag 0 dma 96 status [dry] "  could any one plz help me with this issue?
[23:51] <kiamo> hey hey
[23:52] <shelbyscates> tayfun: the only advice i can give you is to get as big a resolution as possible
[23:52] <kiamo> please can anyone point me in the right direction in getting my webcam and mic working?
[23:52] <theFATMAN> legend2440:yeah, it says the desktop
[23:52] <tayfun> shelby: wow great answer thanks dude i will check this then out i will let u know if everythings work and u know when not i m here again and gonna ask u once again :)
[23:52] <shelbyscates> tayfun:also, this might make your computer suck if its not awesome if it animates.. ;)
[23:52] <shelbyscates> tayfun: hehe
[23:52] <soundray> sapph: what does 'mii-tool' say?
[23:53] <johnnypea> !player
[23:53] <theFATMAN> musikgoat: i tried the -f with -rm, that didnt work either
[23:53] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: try downloading another random picture of the same format, and saving it on your desktop, then rename it under the same name as the one you wanna delete, and if it *really* dosent exist, it should get replaced, and then you can delete the second one
[23:54] <tayfun> shelby tell me pls i got 3 or 4 pictures as a desktop pictures from linux ubuntu where can i get for mores ?? (normal picturs just look )
[23:54] <sapph> soundray: on eth0 thourgh eth7 (keep in mind I only have up to 1) it says: SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not permitted.   Then it says no MII interfaces found
[23:54] <legend2440> theFATMAN: if you right click that file and choose properties what are the permissions?
[23:54] <theFATMAN> brb
[23:54] <kiamo> !webcam
[23:54] <shelbyscates> tayfun: tell me what kind of pictures you like and i could help you find some?
[23:54] <Aslanix> i recevied this error when trying to install ubuntu 8.04 : "ata2.00: exception mask SErr 0x0 action forzen ata2.00: cmd a0/0 : 00 00 ... tag 0 dma 96 status [dry] "  could any one plz help me with this issue?
[23:54] <tayfun> aight thats cool
[23:54] <shelbyscates> tayfun: arty, abstract, shiny?
[23:54] <tayfun> let me think
[23:54] <shelbyscates> k
[23:54] <theFATMAN> legend2440:owner can read & write
[23:54] <connor> aslanix: live cd or wubi?
[23:55] <tayfun> i would like to have some kinda high tech picturs like galaxy or maybe some matrix skull
[23:55] <soundray> sapph: erm, sudo mii-tool (sorry)
[23:55] <shelbyscates> theFATMAN: do you like the sound of my latest suggestion?
[23:55] <Aslanix> connor: live cd
[23:55] <connor> aslanix: if you are using a live cd, try installing with wubi
[23:55] <legend2440> theFATMAN: can you rename it?
[23:55] <connor> its a windows based ubuntu installer, wubi-installer.org
[23:55] <Jordan_U> theFATMAN, What is the problem you are having?
[23:55] <sapph> soundray: Okay, this time the exact something only for just eth0 and eth1
[23:55] <memetic> Does anyone have a good document for getting xrdp (And Xvnc, I suppose) working well enough for remote desktop connections in Ubuntu Hardy?
[23:55] <shelbyscates> tayfun: i have some pretty cool pictures myself that fit that description, ill upload them to my website and you can take a look at them
[23:55] <Aslanix> cannor: do u know what the problem might be ?
[23:55] <connor> no
[23:55] <shelbyscates> tayfun: gimmie just a moment pls
[23:55] <theFATMAN> legend2440: no, it won't let me do anything to it except drag it around the desktop
[23:55] <tayfun> cool shelby
[23:56] <tayfun> u are the best
[23:56] <johnnypea> !ssh
[23:56] <connor> aslanix: try wubi, i used it and it works great, tell us if it works for you
[23:56] <shelbyscates> tayfun: you are the easiest to please
[23:56] <shelbyscates> :P
[23:56] <shelbyscates> brb
[23:56] <Rampage> memetic: for rdp, try grdesktop
[23:56] <soundray> theFATMAN: does it reappear if you do a 'killall nautilus'?
[23:56] <tayfun> shelbyyyyy :)
[23:56] <memetic> Rampage: will that work from Windows -> Ubuntu?
[23:56] <Rampage> no
[23:56] <memetic> What will, Rampage?
[23:56] <MFen> anyone have any suggestions for best dvd (best supported) ripping software on ubuntu?
[23:56] <Rampage> memetic: that is ubuntu -> windows
[23:56] <theFATMAN> soundray: i tried killall dolphin, and it is still there
[23:56] <Jordan_U> !dvd | MFen
[23:56] <memetic> Right.  I need Windows -> Ubuntu.
[23:57] <tayfun> shelby tell me when u did it i m wondering already and i m nervous
[23:57] <MFen> bonus points if it converts to ipod mp4
[23:57] <connor> mfen: check your package manager
[23:57] <tayfun> after u did it shelby i got a new question :)
[23:57] <Rampage> memetic: for windows -> ubuntu use vino, you can do this from System -> preferences -> remote desktoo
[23:57] <Winners> hello
[23:57] <Rampage> *desktop
[23:57] <connor> hello winners
[23:57] <Winners> i really needed osme help
[23:57] <memetic> Vino?  Okay, I'll check it out.  Thank you, Rampage
[23:57] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: are you using a window manager? desktop effects?
[23:57] <MFen> Jordan_U: danke
[23:57] <connor> what di you need winers?
[23:57] <Winners> french help
[23:57] <Rampage> memetic: And then use vncviewer to connect from windows -> ubuntu
[23:57] <connor> oh
[23:57] <Aslanix> cannor: tnx, would do so
[23:57] <Jordan_U> MFen, bite :)
[23:57] <connor> #ubuntu-fr
[23:57] <Winners> in french
[23:57] <connor> #ubuntu-fr
[23:57] <smmagic> can someone tell me the name of the compiz setting manager?
[23:58] <musikgoat> ccsm smmagic
[23:58] <smmagic> thanks
[23:58] <soundray> !ccsm | smmagic
[23:58] <connor> beat me to it .-.
[23:58] <theFATMAN> musikgoat: aye, compiz+emerald, i switched them off, and it didnt change anything regarding deleting the file
[23:58] <memetic> Rampage: I tried using vncviewer and it wouldn't work with I turned encryption on.
[23:58] <osxdude> hmmmmm
[23:58] <osxdude> wait a sec
[23:58] <smmagic> much obliged
[23:58] <musikgoat> theFATMAN: awe shucks
[23:58]  * smmagic gives soundray a cup of coffee
[23:58] <legend2440> theFATMAN: if you right click that file and choose properties does location say /home/<yourusername>/Desktop?
[23:58] <osxdude> ok
[23:58] <Rampage> memetic: Yes, it won't work. Ive not been able to use it with encryption on
[23:58] <Aslanix> so , no one know what this error msg means during the installation : "ata2.00: exception mask SErr 0x0 action forzen ata2.00: cmd a0/0 : 00 00 ... tag 0 dma 96 status [dry] "
[23:58] <memetic> Okay, I need encryption.
[23:59] <theFATMAN> legend2440, yeah
[23:59] <shelbyscates> taylor: take a look at some of mine: www.sudoshelby.com/bgrounds/
[23:59] <osxdude> how do you configure wireless on ubuntu server without an interface? on CLI?
[23:59]  * soundray sips smmagic's coffee. Thanks
[23:59] <Rampage> memetic: What i do is force it to accept connections from localhost only and then use ssh to tunnel a connection
[23:59] <sapph> soundray: I don't know what happened, but now it says no network devices found and the network settings thingy from Admin panel doesn's show any of the interfaces
[23:59] <osxdude> don't answer time to eat dinner
[23:59] <Rampage> memetic: That gives me an encrypted connection
[23:59] <memetic> Rampage: I suppose that world work.
[23:59] <smmagic> oh, and soundray, Once I install it. How do I open it
[23:59] <shelbyscates> taylor: they are assorted and random, but you might find some you like :)
[23:59] <memetic> So let me create an ssh tunnel, and so forth.
[23:59] <Jordan_U> theFATMAN, what happens if you just try to 'rm' it from the terminal?
[23:59] <shelbyscates> oh wait
[23:59] <shelbyscates> hjahahahaha
[23:59] <memetic> I'd prefer getting xrdp working with xvnc.  Has anyone done that with Hardy, just curious.
[23:59] <shelbyscates> tayfun: take a look at some of mine: www.sudoshelby.com/bgrounds/


[00:24] <xubuntu492> hello
[09:19] <ibouvousaime> Hello guys how can I install windows from my hard drive I have linux at the moment and I want to install windowsalongside linux
[12:19] <xubuntu87w> Hello. I never used this. How this works?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> "this" ???????
[12:20] <xubuntu87w> Ok, thanks. I just wondered how IRC works. Now I know. Thanks a lot.
[12:21] <xubuntu87w> bye
[13:07] <mnemoc> hi, on my laptop I run xubuntu 14.04 just like in my work desktop but on my laptop the DE freezes during minutes between I press the shutdown button in the menu until I get the window with the buttons asking me if I want to reboot, logoff, suspend or make a real poweroff. making a logoff via command line has a similar delay. I can still jump to tty1 via keyboard or move the mouse pointer just fine, but everything else gets frozen. any idea what can be wrong?
[16:47] <phenom> Hmm, bug: Can't lock screen while "Software Updater" is updating the system.
[16:47] <phenom> Neither by command line or the action buttons,, anything.
[16:48] <phenom> $ xscreensaver-command -l
[16:48] <phenom> xscreensaver-command: already locked.
[16:48] <phenom> sotty, but that's what I get when I try to start it from the command line.
[16:49] <phenom> sorry even
[18:11] <NoobyNoob> hello, can someone help me turn on wireless please?????
[18:12] <bazhang> !wifi | NoobyNoob have a read
[18:48] <em> holstein: are you here?
[18:48] <em> is anyone familiar with making a live usb xubuntu
[18:48] <em> I just dd copied the xubuntu.iso to my flash drive
[18:48] <em> but when I put it into a machine and booted from the flash drive it just started up the normal kubuntu i have on there
[19:08] <hudsonkem> hello, is there any channel to xubuntu in pt-br language?
[19:08] <xangua> !pt
[19:09] <hudsonkem> I know ubuntu-br but '-' never mind thx
[19:46] <holstein> em: you'll have to make arrangments for the hardware to boot the USB.. you can take the USB stick to a machine that you *know* boots USB, to make sure the stick is made properly
[19:46] <holstein> you can refer to the manufacturers documentation as to how to boot USB
[23:43] <pigeon-> I'm helping a friend to install xubuntu, and we encountered a problem in the installation of his Brother-Printer...  we can see that the printer is installed, however it will not print.  I wonder if it is because he previously had a network while using windows?
[23:46] <pigeon-> When we give the command to print,  the printer makes some sounds as if it wanted to print however it does not print...  Any suggestions?


[01:40] <abelli> bon jour
[01:44] <sivang> abelli: bon journo
[01:45] <abelli> buon giorno
[01:46] <sivang> err, yes, I know italian like I know kernel hacking
[01:59] <abelli> ehehe..
[09:34] <Burgundavia_> hello all
[09:38] <sivang> yo Burgundavia_
[09:38] <sivang> 'ssuuup?
[09:38] <sivang> been back from the cold? :)
[09:46] <Burgundavia_> I still have no internet access at home
[09:46] <Burgundavia_> I have just got back from 2 weeks on the road with work
[09:47] <Burgundavia_> I have a question though. Why the heck did they change the menu from "System" to "Desktop"?
[09:52] <sivang> hrm...long due discussion :)
[09:52] <sivang> was about 2 weeks ago I think
[09:52] <sivang> or a bit later
[09:53] <Burgundavia_> is there a discussion somewhere I can butt in on?


[08:57] <apachelogger> good morning Ubuntu One
[08:58] <ajmitch> morning
[08:59] <ajmitch> or evening, in this case :)
[11:15]  * ajmitch wonders when rodrigo will be around
[11:48] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:49] <ajmitch> hi duanedesign
[14:33] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: hi. I'm pinging you directly since you did the last couple of rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store downloads. I'm having several problems with rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store on maverick and wanted to see if you were aware of them
[14:34] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: (we haven't met-- I'm on the ubuntu security team :)
[14:35] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: first with rhythmbox 0.13.0git20100819-0ubuntu1, the plugin won't display in rhythmbox anymore, but it does allow me to check the plugin in Edit/Plugins after today's upload
[14:35] <rodrigo_> hi jdstrand
[14:35] <rye_> jdstrand, bug #619005  or bug #623655
[14:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 619005 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu) "Ubuntuone music store plugin breaks importing for rhythmbox (dup-of: 618945)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619005
[14:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 618945 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Maverick: with the ubuntuone store plugin enabled Rhythmbox can not import files or folders (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618945
[14:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 623655 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "Error prevents enabling store plugin (affects: 5) (heat: 26)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623655
[14:36] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: ok, good that you know about those
[14:36] <rodrigo_> jdstrand, yeah, other people are having similar problems, can you run rhythmbox on the command line and see what it outputs?
[14:36] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: sure
[14:36] <rodrigo_> jdstrand, and add it to the bugs rye_ just pasted, please
[14:36] <jdstrand> (I have another issue with the previous rb that I can bring up after this)
[14:43] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: ok, added to 623655
[14:44] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: the other part was that if I use 0.13.0git20100715-0ubuntu* then the plugin shows up, but it always shows as 'Connecting' to UbuntuOne. I tried 'u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -c' to no avail
[14:45] <rodrigo_> jdstrand, it shows 'connecting...' when you try to buy music, or when opening the 1st page?
[14:46] <rodrigo_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store/+bug/618945 seems to have been fixed by the latest update
[14:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 618945 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Maverick: with the ubuntuone store plugin enabled Rhythmbox can not import files or folders (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Fix released]
[14:46] <rodrigo_> but not for jdstrand, it seems
[14:46] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: this was over the weekend. at first I was able to browse and add things to my cart fine, and it was when I went to buy music that it stopped at Connecting (with the progress bar at the bottom at halfway and never moving)
[14:47] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: but, after that whenever I started rb (even after disconnecting/reconnecting with uone) it was always at Connecting
[14:47] <rodrigo_> jdstrand, did you have u1 authenticated already when you did so?
[14:47] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: I haven't been able to browse music since then
[14:47] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: the first time over the weekend? no-- it sent me to login. after that I was logged in
[14:47] <rodrigo_> jdstrand, make sure you install the latest ubuntu-sso-client (0.99.3), which has just been uploaded
[14:48] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: ok. I still have 0.99.2-0ubuntu1
[14:48] <jdstrand> I noticed today I lost the UbuntuOne from the Me menu. let me make sure I am 100% up to date
[14:49] <rodrigo_> right, it's a problem in our server, it doesn't recognize the new SSO tokens yet
[14:49] <rodrigo_> it should work, if you have existing tokens
[14:49] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: that is fixed in 0.99.3?
[14:49] <jdstrand> wait, that is probably different
[14:55] <rodrigo_> jdstrand, no, needs an update on our server
[14:56] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: ok, I installed 0.99.3 and then downgraded rb to the previous version that worked with the music store
[14:56] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: I double click on Ubuntu One in rb and I get 'Connecting'
[14:56] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: with the progress bar halfway
[14:58] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: actually, it seems the ubuntu one client in System/Preferences no longer works... :(
[14:58] <jdstrand> it crashed
[14:58] <jdstrand> (talking about ubuntuone-preferences)
[14:59] <jdstrand> segfault
[15:00] <rodrigo_> rb segfaulted?
[15:00] <rodrigo_> if so, can you run it under gdb:
[15:00] <rodrigo_> $ gdb rhythmbox
[15:00] <rodrigo_> (gdb) r
[15:00] <rodrigo_> then make it crash, and when so:
[15:00] <rodrigo_> (gdb) thread apply all bt
[15:04] <jdstrand> rodrigo_: no ubuntuone-preferences
[15:05] <jdstrand> huh, now it is working... weird
[15:05] <jdstrand> I got it to crash twice by clicking the Devices tab, but now it is ok
[15:13] <jdstrand> $ u1sdtool -s
[15:13] <jdstrand> State: AUTH_FAILED
[15:13] <jdstrand>     connection: With User With Network
[15:13] <jdstrand>     description: auth failed
[15:13] <jdstrand>     is_connected: False
[15:13] <jdstrand>     is_error: True
[15:13] <jdstrand>     is_online: False
[15:13] <jdstrand>     queues: IDLE
[15:13] <jdstrand> wonders if ^ is due to the server needing updating
[15:26] <rodrigo_> jdstrand, yes, if you didn't have the old tokens, it won't work yet
[15:26] <rodrigo_> we are working on fixing it on the server
[15:35] <duffydack> hello people.
[16:14] <rye_> anybody else using nokia s60 devices with funambol syncml client here?
[16:40] <JamesTait> rye_: I was, but not since last week.
[16:40] <JamesTait> rye_: I don't know if it'll still work without a SIM, but I can try it over wifi if it'll help?
[16:41] <rye_> JamesTait, well, i suspect that either firmware upgrade broke funambol client or the server side is not happy. The client thinks it has synced fine, but the contact list is empty
[16:42] <JamesTait> rye_: Lemme grab my phone and see what happens.
[16:42] <rye_> JamesTait, are you using android-based phone now?
[16:42] <JamesTait> rye_: What's your handet, btw?
[16:43] <JamesTait> rye_: Yeah, since last week I upgraded to HTC Desire.
[16:43] <rye_> JamesTait, Nokia 5530 XpressMusic
[16:43] <JamesTait> rye_: OK, I've got a Nokia E71 here.
[16:47] <JamesTait> rye_: Sorry, my credentials have changed now I switched phones... bear with me.
[16:47] <rye_> great, nokia own sw says 'System error'
[16:50] <JamesTait> Wow, going back to the E71 after a week on the Desire really reminds me how clunky it is.
[16:51] <JamesTait> rye_: Sync completed OK.
[16:51] <rye_> JamesTait, wow, that's reassuring
[16:52] <JamesTait> rye_: Not exactly what you wanted to hear. :S
[16:53] <rye_> JamesTait, ok, on android emulator funambol sync client tells me about GenericError
[16:55] <JamesTait> rye_: I have a development sync client on my Android at present, so my experience will be different, I expect.
[16:55] <rye_> JamesTait, i guess i will need to dig into server logs
[16:56] <JamesTait> rye_: Last time I tried it, I got a network error from the phone.
[16:56] <JamesTait> rye_: But it was sending some ridiculous number of contacts and took a long time, so my gut feel was network timeout.
[17:00] <beuno> so
[17:00] <beuno> android and iphone send contact sin batches
[17:00] <beuno> nokias send all of them at the same time
[17:00] <beuno> or, larger batches like 200
[17:01] <beuno> so they are more likely to timeout
[17:01] <beuno> also
[17:01] <beuno> couchdb &*(%^
[17:02] <JamesTait> beuno: You love it. :)
[17:03] <beuno> yes, universal symbols for love
[17:05] <rye_> beuno, the server says com.funambol.json.exception.BadRequestException whiel trying to authenticate my android emulator
[17:05] <Chipaca> beuno: When you love someone, you should totally &*($^
[17:05] <Chipaca> beuno: see?
[17:06] <JamesTait> Oh that so has to be quoted. :)
[17:08] <beuno> rye_, that is new I think
[17:08] <beuno> Chipaca, well said
[17:36] <trichard> hey, for some reason the ubuntuone syncdaemon doesn't listen to it's throttle limit. Anybody knows what might cause this?
[17:47] <H1n1> can you please add english bg to the language choices online - i object to being accused of being an american for merely speaking english
[17:49] <dobey> we have language choices?
[17:51] <rye_> H1n1, https://login.ubuntu.com/set_language?next=/ ?
[17:51] <dobey> where are you seeing that?
[17:51] <H1n1> https://login.ubuntu.com/set_language?next=/mZM5Lm8gttBwCzgj/%2Bdecide
[17:52] <H1n1> Americans dont speak english anyway
[17:52] <H1n1> they speak American
[17:54] <H1n1> those who speak true english have signed the human rights act etc
[17:54] <dobey> …
[17:54] <dobey> Jamaicans?
[17:54] <H1n1> long story
[17:55] <H1n1> and off topic
[19:20] <megamaced> hi i purchased some music and it was delivered to cloud but not downloaded to computer
[20:31] <ajmitch> rodrigo_: so I found the problem with the mono bindings
[20:32] <rodrigo_> ajmitch, yeah, saw your branch
[20:33] <ajmitch> run away screaming?
[20:33] <ajmitch> I don't like it at all but adding in the dummy code makes it build, at least until the broken parser could be fixed
[20:36] <rodrigo_> ajmitch, I have a branch that I started last night, when I talked to you, to try fixing it, if I can't, I guess we'll merge your branch
[20:36] <ajmitch> alright
[20:36] <rodrigo_> ajmitch, but why does it need that?
[20:37] <ajmitch> because the parser is broken - it used to skip the syncdaemon code, I suspect something in the ugly perl code is grabbing too many lines & skipping over the struct
[20:39] <rodrigo_> ugh
[20:39] <ajmitch> quite
[20:39] <ajmitch> what were you trying in your branch?
[20:53] <dobey> ajmitch: i just don't see what your branch even does, aside from add a file that doesn't get included, or disted, or anything?
[20:53] <ajmitch> dobey: exactly
[20:54] <ajmitch> but the gapi parser for the mono bindings looks at all code in that directory
[20:54] <dobey> how does a file that is never referenced from anything, alter the build?
[20:54] <dobey> ajmitch: except that file wouldn't be there when the packages get built, since it's not in EXTRA_DIST in Makefile.am
[20:55] <ajmitch> dobey: ok, then that would need to be added, I guess
[20:55] <ajmitch> I was adding it in on top of the 0.3.4 source tree for the package
[20:56] <ajmitch> as I said, I don't like this way of doing it, but the dummy file causes it to not break for now
[20:58] <ajmitch> I need to run off, I'll be back in ~30 minif you want to talk about a better way of fixing it quickly
[20:59] <dobey> i don't know what's wrong exactly, but hopefully rodrigo_ will know something
[21:23] <ajmitch> the right way would appear to be fixing gapi2-parser in a way that doesn't break existing users of it
[21:29] <dobey> ajmitch: so all existing users ship arbitrarily used headers with the same content as you propose we put in libu1?
[21:30] <ajmitch> I haven't had time to check what others do, but I suspect that they don't have valid code that otherwise breaks the parser
[21:31] <ajmitch> what I'd prefer is a proper fix, what I proposed was something that would get it to build for now & would prefer didn't go in as-is
[21:32] <ajmitch> I probably shouldn't have done a merge proposal, it was just the most convenient way to show the workaround
[22:18] <dashua> Any chance of U1 Music Store syncing in webOS?


[17:51] <Renfield> I'm looking at a problem with starting a service via upstart. I'm using Ubuntu (not sure exactly which version), with, I believe upstart 0.6.3-11.
[17:52] <Renfield> The behavior leads me to believe that procps is not starting at boot. This is on a RackSpace virtual server.
[17:52] <Renfield> I'm having difficulties determining if in fact procps is starting or not, actually.
[17:53] <Renfield> If I've read documentation correctly, if I pass init="/sbin/init --verbose" on kernel boot, that should give me more information about what upstart is doing.
[17:54] <Renfield> However, in this virtual server, I don't have access to change the kernel parameters.
[17:55] <Renfield> I tried adding "exec /sbin/initctl log-priority debug" to the script stanza of /etc/init/mountall.conf, but then the server does not complete a boot up.
[17:56] <Renfield> Also, though that causes some upstart information to come out on console, it doesn't also log it anywhere, and the console access from RackSpace isn't great.