[12:01] <Infeliz> Arwen: 6.6.6
[12:01] <cmweb> Arwen, nothing happened
[12:01] <Arwen> cmweb, you might not be able to do that because only root can create links in /var
[12:01] <edd_> how do u get to the back-ports?
[12:01] <HuibertGill> nceterval: first try "sudo su", then "export LANG=C" then "LC_ALL=C" then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf"
[12:01] <crimsun_> nceterval: / HuibertGill: you need to pass the whitespace-delimited locale list to locale-gen
[12:01] <cmweb> arwen, im loged in as root
[12:01] <Arwen> cmweb, it's ln -s <target> <location for symlink>
[12:01] <Arwen> you mighta had the order reversed
[12:02] <crimsun_> nceterval: see GNOME's System> Administration> Language Support, or /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED's left-most column
[12:02] <HuibertGill> Arwen: try "cat /proc/version"
[12:02] <cmweb> root@cmweb:/home/owner# ln -s /var/www /home/Owner/Desktop/WWW
[12:02] <cmweb> ln: creating symbolic link `/home/Owner/Desktop/WWW' to `/var/www': No such file or directory
[12:02] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Wen I do that, I just get: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated Aborted
[12:03] <edd_> crimsun_: how do i get to back-ports?
[12:03] <crimsun_> !backports |edd_
[12:03] <ubotu> edd_: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[12:03] <chable> anyone can tell me how do i boot kernel 2.6.17-10-generic , default
[12:03] <edd_> ty
[12:03] <nceterval> crimsun_, I see the column you're talking about, but I don't know what to do with it.
[12:03] <ubuntu> i am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"
[12:03] <cmweb> arwen, last message for you
[12:03] <crimsun_> nceterval: choose the ones you want, and pass them to locale-gen(8)
[12:03] <HuibertGill> nceterval: hmm, that's strange, it is even stranger that I reme,ber the same output from this afternoon, but it was at work, so I can't check now......
[12:03] <joeish> i am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"
[12:04] <Arwen> HuibertGill, that'd be nice, but the version I have is not the one which I want to find out
[12:04] <nceterval> crimsun_, Forgive me for being so ignorant, but I don't know how to pass them.
[12:04] <crimsun_> nceterval: type them in a Terminal
[12:04] <nceterval> Please give an example
[12:04] <Arwen> chable, edit the menu.lst in /boot/grub and adjust the default=whatever to whichever one is the kernel you want
[12:04] <Arwen> cmweb, ?
[12:04] <chable> u mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:04] <Arwen> joeish, that's a common error.... have you searched the ubuntu forums?
[12:05] <crimsun_> nceterval: sudo locale-gen da_DK.UTF-8 de_BE.UTF-8
[12:05] <cmweb> arwen,
[12:05] <cmweb> root@cmweb:/home/owner# ln -s /var/www /home/Owner/Desktop/www
[12:05] <cmweb> ln: creating symbolic link `/home/Owner/Desktop/www' to `/var/www': No such file or directory
[12:05] <nceterval> crimsun_, Ah, thank you.  No errors with that, I'll try dpkg again.
[12:05] <Arwen> chable, yes
[12:05] <joeish> Arwen, i have been figured i would try here too
[12:06] <chable> melin ceni hin ln sla i 'eladhach , Arwen
[12:06] <chable> le hannon
[12:06] <nceterval> crimsun_, Fantastic, that did the trick!  HuibertGill, thank you for your help!
[12:06] <gwayne> is there a way to get rid of the ubuntu message i get when I ssh into my box?
[12:06] <Arwen> cmweb, err, do you have a /var/www?
[12:06] <h00t> does anyone know how can i set to "erase" completely instead of moving into trash
[12:06] <Helpmeee> when i try to uninstall linux-restricted-modules i get this error msg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-restricted-modules
[12:06] <gwayne> i dont see a way to remove it in bash.bashrc
[12:06] <Arwen> cmweb, or are you trying to link /var/www to /home/owner/desktop/www ?
[12:07] <cmweb> arwen, im looking rihgt at it, theirs a phpmyadmin then apache-default
[12:07] <HuibertGill> crimsun_: good one, thanks for the info
[12:07] <Dial_tone> uninstall it using what method?
[12:07] <cmweb> arwen, yesss..
[12:07] <h00t> does anyone know how can i set to "erase" completely instead of moving into trash
[12:07] <Arwen> h00t, it's in nautilus preferences, you can also use the rm command
[12:08] <h00t> Arwen, sorry wrong window
[12:08] <Helpmeee> Dial_tone, using -r
[12:08] <jovans> hallo i am using ubuntu warty and i wont upgrade to edgy is it possible
[12:08] <ThePub> so between my previous install and this new one I have generated an error on a seemingly identical configuration.  When gnome loads up now, just after the startup icons it says that HAL could not be initialized.
[12:08] <Arwen> cmweb, sorry for being stupid, but what folder are you trying to set as target and what dir do you want your symlink to be in?
[12:08] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Hmm, now the perl locale problem is gone, but the "stack smashing" error still keeps me from finishing the Edgy upgrade.
[12:09] <HuibertGill> nceterval: never heard of that during edgy upgrade, I think it's googletime again
[12:09] <Arwen> jovans, you won't upgrade to edgy.... is it possible - well, yes?
[12:10] <nceterval> HuibertGill, The first result is about an Edgy upgrade, form the Ubuntu forums :)
[12:10] <cmweb> Arwen, sorry for my stupidity, i forgot obout that my username is not capitalized
[12:10] <cmweb> I got it
[12:10] <Infeliz> 6876t
[12:10] <Infeliz>  bjkl
[12:10] <Infeliz> ohops
[12:10] <h00t> Arwen, i lost the start menu from the panel on top... i managed to get back the start menu ... do you know how to separate the "preferences" and "administrative" on the panel
[12:10] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Apparently, in that particular case, using aptitude rather than apt get was the solution...   seems odd.
[12:11] <HuibertGill> nceterval: yes, seems odd
[12:11] <cmweb> arwen, but you can tell me thes, what user should the www dir be in
[12:11] <Arwen> cmweb, lol
[12:11] <chable> bnrb reboot
[12:11] <HuibertGill> nceterval: did it work for you?
[12:11] <Arigato> what is the difference between a link and a symbolic link?
[12:11] <Whilsmithe> hey - trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on my desktop but when i hit enter to start the livecd/install at the initial boot screen from the cd it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor that never does anything, i've tried adding break=bottom to the list of boot options and various other things i found on forums but nothing works
[12:11] <Whilsmithe> anyone know anything that might work?
[12:12] <nceterval> HuibertGill, I'm trying to figure out how to use aptitude, I'll give it a try once I do.
[12:12] <Arwen> h00t, err.... try running the menu editor (alacarte)
[12:12] <Arwen> cmweb, hmm.... no idea - where is it?
[12:12] <HuibertGill> Arigato: first google result for your exact wording: "http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.htmlhttp://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html"
[12:12] <felixjet> can i dissable anacron and atd from services? they are cron's but i dont know if it will f*ck my pc
[12:12] <HuibertGill> nceterval: I never got the hang of aptitude
[12:12] <cmweb>  /var/www
[12:12] <Arwen> Arigato, a symlink redirects a call to a file/folder to another one. A hardlink/link gives a file/folder multiple names and makes it appear to exist multiple times
[12:13] <Arwen> felixjet, yes - system > administration > services >anacron
[12:13] <felixjet> but i can dissable them without no risk?
[12:13] <felixjet> i know how to do, i just want to know if it will be bad
[12:13] <HuibertGill> Arigato: a hardllinks is an inode pointer, a softlink only holds te path/filename info...
[12:13] <Arwen> cmweb, so... what do you mean what user should it be in?
[12:14] <HuibertGill> link "http://linuxgazette.net/105/pitcher.html" (corrected sorry)
[12:14] <cmweb> arwen its in root root it should be in another one
[12:14] <chable> its working
[12:14] <Slart> If a process reports as a Zombie in the system-monitor, is it dead? can I kill it? can it get better? should I kill it?
[12:14] <Arwen> cmweb, I'm lost - what are you trying to do?
[12:14] <chable> rim hennaid Arwen
[12:14] <Arwen> Slart, you can kill it or leave it - zombie is an app that's dead but still shows in the process list
[12:14] <Arwen> chable, ???
[12:15] <nceterval> HuibertGill, It looks like aptitude is getting the same stack smashing error but going through with the dpkg commands anyway...  I don't quite understand, but I won't complain.
[12:15] <n2diy_> Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?
[12:15] <Slart> Arwen: what makes a process go Zombie?
[12:15] <Cyde> How do I reinstall all of the stuff in /etc/ that comes with a package?  I just removed and installed something, but none of the files in /etc/ got fixed.
[12:15] <cmweb> arwen, scratch it.... Whats the membership command, i need to add my self to www-data
[12:15] <HuibertGill> nceterval: so it like --force in dpkg?
[12:15] <Arwen> cmweb, no idea how to add to group, sorry
[12:15] <Cyde> Arwen: sudo usermod -G www-data -a your_user_name
[12:15] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Oh, maybe, I'm not sure.
[12:15] <eilker> what happens if i delete a script from etc/init.d,   i dont want no-ip script anymore
[12:15] <Cyde> Errrr, cmweb: sudo usermod -G www-data -a your_user_name
[12:16] <Arwen> Slart, basically an error in the app causing it to die
[12:16] <Slart> Arwen: ok. Thanks for your help
[12:16] <porsiip> Hi, I used this guide(http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide) to try to get better screen card settings, but now when I start ubuntu I only get the command line, when I try to write startx it stands fatal error, no screen, is there something I can do to fix this. thanks for all the help I can get on this
[12:16] <chable> pedich Edhellen , Arwen  ?
[12:16] <Arwen> Slart, the easiest way to fix zombied apps is to reboot
[12:16] <Hinj> http://www.irseek.com/files/Freenode/ubuntu/December/10.10.html?hilite=ubuntu
[12:16] <cmweb> sudo usermod -G www-data -a owner ? i did that but still have no access to my www
[12:16] <HuibertGill> eilker: look into "man update-rc.d" or "update-rc.d --help"
[12:16] <s4ltydog> hello folks
[12:17] <n2diy_> Arwen, why not just kill the zombie from Top?
[12:17] <cmweb> cyde, that last one was for you
[12:17] <Arwen> n2diy, sometimes it doesn't work
[12:17] <HuibertGill> eilker: if you just remove the script, you will get a lot of broken symlinks in /etc/rc**.d
[12:17] <Cyde> cmweb: You need to relog.
[12:17] <s4ltydog> Has anyone had an issue where when you install ubuntu, the monitor turns a greenish hue (I've made sure it is not the monitor)
[12:17] <Cyde> cmweb: Changes to groups only take effect once you establish a new shell session.
[12:17] <n2diy_> Arwen, ah, I c
[12:17] <chable> i need to upload some food
[12:17] <Arwen> s4ltydog, yes... this is usually caused by an xorg error
[12:17] <cmweb> cyde, so is their a command to that?
[12:17] <Cyde> How do I reinstall all of the stuff in /etc/ that comes with a package?  I just removed and installed something, but none of the files in /etc/ got fixed.
[12:18] <Slart> Arwen: hmm.. do these zombified processes take memory? smell bad or make any kind of trouble? or can I just leave them if I dont want to reboot right now?
[12:18] <Cyde> cmweb: How are you logged in, on the command line, in a terminal window, SSH, etc.?
[12:18] <Arwen> s4ltydog, oh wait.. greenish hue, sorry, nvm - never seen it before
[12:18] <n2diy_> Cyde, how did you remove and install them?
[12:18] <cmweb> im in gnome on a terminal
[12:18] <Cyde> n2diy_: apt-get remove xxxxx   apt-get install xxxxxxx
[12:18] <Cyde> n2diy_: I messed up and deleted something in /etc/ that the package came with, now reinstalling it isn't bringing that conf file back.
[12:18] <porsiip> Is there an easy way to get my old scrren card settings back? I only get the command line, cause I messed something up, while I tried to change the settings
[12:18] <s4ltydog> I'm thinking it may have something to do with the graphic card drivers?
[12:18] <eilker> HuibertGill: done, thank you, :)  sudo update-rc.d no-ip remove
[12:18] <Arwen> Slart, they do smell bad, as they're zombies. They usually take 0 mem, something that you can verify. They may cause errors, but are usually symptoms of a bigger problem
[12:18] <n2diy_> Cyde, that should have worked.
[12:19] <bruenig> porsiip, what did you change...
[12:19] <Arwen> !acl
[12:19] <noplease> hi
[12:19] <Cyde> n2diy_: It didn't
[12:19] <ubotu> acl: Access control list utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.39-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 220 kB
[12:19] <n2diy_> test
[12:19] <refus3d> where is the best place to get Emerald themes
[12:19] <Slart> Arwen: ok, sounds like a reboot is in order then
[12:19] <bruenig> !hi | noplease
[12:19] <ubotu> noplease: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:19] <s4ltydog> porsiip you can reconfigure xorg.conf
[12:19] <Slart> Arwen: thanks
[12:19] <bruenig> !xconfig | porsiip
[12:19] <ubotu> porsiip: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:19] <cmweb> cyde, in gnome on terminal
[12:19] <n2diy_> Cyde, I don't know what to tell you.
[12:19] <Cyde> cmweb: So close the terminal window and open another one.
[12:19] <s4ltydog> refus: Been a while since i've checked, have you tried gnomelook.org?
[12:20] <n2diy_> Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?
[12:20] <Arwen> does anyone know of a gui tool to change acls?
[12:20] <cmweb> cyde, restart the computer, im in gnome
[12:20] <Arwen> and does using an acl overwrite my octal file permissions? if not, does it take over?
[12:20] <Cyde> cmweb: You don't need to restart the computer, just open another terminal window.
[12:21] <Cyde> cmweb: Ohhh, hrmm. .. you mean you're using Gnome's GUI file browser to look at your file system?
[12:21] <n2diy_> Cyde, run updatedb from a terminal, maybe the stuff is there, but the db doesn't know it
[12:21] <cmweb> cyde, Yes,
[12:21] <Cyde> cmweb: Restart gnome then I guess.
[12:21] <nceterval> HuibertGill, aptitude seemed to be working, but then returned errors while processing every package.
[12:21] <Cyde> cmweb: You don't need to restart your computer though.
[12:21] <cmweb> cyde, i know of no other way to do that
[12:22] <HuibertGill> nceterval: hope they will go away, after the upgrade has completed.
[12:22] <JFG8721> no puedo
[12:22] <jovans> is this the right channel for me?
[12:22] <Cyde> cmweb: Press Alt-F1 to get a real terminal.  (But before you do that, note that Alt-F7 brings you back into X11)
[12:22] <jovans> xubuntu
[12:23] <cmweb> Ok in terminal i do what cyde
[12:23] <jovans> i'd like to download xubuntu feisty is it availible?
[12:23] <nceterval> HuibertGill, It failed to upgrade, though, so it seems that I am stuck again.
[12:23] <HuibertGill> !xubuntu
[12:23] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[12:23] <Cyde> cmweb: Well first of all log out of Gnome ... there should be a GUI way to do that.
[12:23] <eilker> how can i have whole man pages ? not only from console, pdf prefable :)
[12:23] <porsiip> ubotu: what shall I do when I'm reconfiguring the xserver? after writing the command... I'm a noob...
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what shall I do when I'm reconfiguring the xserver? after writing the command... I'm a noob... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <cmweb> cyde, its called shutdown :
[12:23] <cmweb> :)*
[12:23] <untony2> hey
[12:23] <HuibertGill> nceterval: have you tried "apt-get dist-upgrade" a few times? (sound funny but it might work)
[12:24] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Several
[12:24] <jovans> are xubuntu feisty herd 1 availib
[12:24] <crimsun_> jovans: no.
[12:24] <jovans> but i have found that iso image
[12:24] <HuibertGill> nceterval: what does apt-get dist-upgrade -f say?
[12:24] <crimsun_> jovans: I highly doubt that.
[12:24] <d00d> Anyone use Koversation, i can't get it to auto nickserv :[
[12:24] <nceterval> HuibertGill, dist-upgrade needs an -f install, -f install fails, aptitude fails...  not sure what to do,
[12:24] <jovans> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/
[12:24] <crimsun_> jovans: that's not Herd 1.
[12:25] <crimsun_> jovans: believe me, I made the final call on that one.
[12:25] <jovans> but feisty or?
[12:25] <HuibertGill> nceterval: all fail with the stack smash error?
[12:25] <crimsun_> jovans: it's a snapshot that was the Herd 1 candidate. It's broken in many situations, though.
[12:25] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Actually, hold on, I have not tried a dist-upgrade -f, just an -f install.  I will do that.
[12:25] <HuibertGill> nceterval: k
[12:26] <nceterval> HuibertGill, It failed with a dependency problem that I think I need to -f install to fix.  I can pastebin, if you'd like.
[12:26] <d00d> Who uses Kovsation here?
[12:27] <nceterval> HuibertGill, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37249/
[12:27] <beerockxs> anyone know what might cause Totem to display videos with false colours (skin shows as blue, e.g.) VLC is working fine.
[12:28] <Krinkle> I can't connect to my hub or get to the internet through ubuntu. Yesterday someone suggested gnome network manager. I can't seem to find that program in any of the program lists and I still can't connect. Pinging google.com says it's an invalid address. Is there something really simple I'm missing?
[12:28] <joeish> i am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"
[12:28] <crimsun_> beerockxs: video output method, perhaps?
[12:28] <joeish> i have check the forums and cant find any answers
[12:28] <beerockxs> crimsun_: where would I set that?
[12:28] <ski-worklap> what's with the UUID stuff in /etc/fstab ?
[12:28] <HuibertGill> nceterval: brb
[12:29] <ski-worklap> it's a lot uglier than /dev/hda6 or so, and I can't figure out what real world benefit it has?
[12:29] <HuibertGill> nceterval: have you tried "apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg"
[12:29] <crimsun_> ski-worklap: a lot of HDs attached to laptop docks hijack primary indices.
[12:29] <crimsun_> ski-worklap: suddenly booting from /dev/hda1 takes a completely different meaning
[12:30] <nceterval> HuibertGill, No, I will.
[12:30] <cmweb> ljl, your going to kill me
[12:30] <nceterval> HuibertGill, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[12:30] <crimsun_> ski-worklap: i.e., it's a persistence issue that the uuid issue resolves.
[12:30] <ski-worklap> weird
[12:30] <beerockxs> crimsun_: hmm, it looks like it's behaving wrong when using Xv.
[12:30] <beerockxs> Is there a know problem with fglrx and Xv?
[12:30] <HuibertGill> nceterval: then try "apt-get -f --reinstall install"
[12:30] <cmweb> Whats up with this
[12:30] <cmweb> owner@cmweb:~$ locate php.ini
[12:30] <cmweb> /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini
[12:30] <cmweb> /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini
[12:31] <ski-worklap> so you're talking about full fledged laptop docks, not external (usb/firewire/whatever) hard drives?
[12:31] <HuibertGill> nceterval: just guessing though
[12:31] <age6racer> Hi all, I'm having trouble setting up my wireless driver Linksys WPC45G (Broadcom) I' currently using bcm43xx but my dmesg is full of errors about this  :(
[12:32] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Another error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37250/
[12:32] <age6racer> *WPC54G
[12:32] <nceterval> Very frustrating
[12:32] <cmweb> !wireless
[12:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:32] <joeish> i have check the forums and cant find any answers
[12:33] <age6racer> I've been there and done that. i was hoping someone here had set up the same or a similar card
[12:33] <HuibertGill> nceterval: with the unmet dependencis, did apt tell wich packages are missing?
[12:33] <age6racer> I was here yesterday talking to a couple of guys who had. They recommended upgrading to edgy. But nothing has improved so i was coming back for more ideas...
[12:33] <joeish> i am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"
[12:34] <Krinkle> I see a lot of faqs on getting wireless networking working. How do you get regular networking working. If I boot up in windows I connect fine. If I boot up in ubuntu it doesn't. I enabled the card what more does it want?
[12:34] <nceterval> HuibertGill, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37251/
[12:34] <rc-1> i have a usb HD, and when i plug it in its not listed in lsusb, but the kernel DOES recognize it, please help!
[12:34] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Thanks, again, for all the help
[12:34] <Drako60> what happened with the last kernel update?
[12:35] <rc-1> Drako60, the restart after that it didnt recognize my usb drive
[12:36] <Drako60> rc-1, i wish it was only my USB drive, i'm having kernel panics that i can't get any messages on, ioctl failures, X crashing
[12:36] <rc-1> ouch!
[12:36] <eilker> how can i have whole man pages ? not only from console, pdf prefable :) , i couldnt find it in google
[12:36] <mzanfardino> Help!
[12:36] <Drako60> even gcc is segfaulting when i try to compile a new kernel
[12:36] <mzanfardino> I can't get my java plugin to work with Firefox under Edgy!
[12:37] <kitche> eilker: I haven't found any pdf's but you can find man pages on line all over
[12:37] <mzanfardino> anyone else having this problem/know of a solution?
[12:37] <mzanfardino> I swear I've ready the instructions, but to no avail!
[12:38] <eilker> !man
[12:38] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:38] <matt____> is it possible to use lightscribe disk labling in ubuntu? on the lightscribe website, it has a linux versian, (rpm), but clearly says it doesn't support debian. if i convery it with alien, will that do it? or is it something more than that?
[12:38] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: pastebin the directory contents of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[12:38] <HuibertGill> nceterval: try using dpkg directly for this package, it has a nifty --force-all (dpkg --force-help) dpkg needs the full path to the DEB file as an argument
[12:38] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: specifically, ls -l the directory contents of
[12:38] <crimsun_> argh.
[12:38] <SaudiLinux> hi
[12:38] <eilker> kitche: it would be great to have it as pdf
[12:38] <HuibertGill> nceterval: but be carefull, this might severly break your system.
[12:38] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: specifically, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[12:38] <mzanfardino> mozilla-firefox?!?  damnit.  hang on...
[12:38] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:38] <dobbbob> what is the command to see if video accel is turned on?
[12:39] <aent> hey, I'm trying to burn a video DVD, I have an mpeg file, whats the easiest way to do that?
[12:39] <matt____> is it possible to use lightscribe disk labling in ubuntu? on the lightscribe website, it has a linux versian, (rpm), but clearly says it doesn't support debian. if i convery it with alien, will that do it? or is it something more than that?
[12:39] <ski-worklap> dobbbob - glinfo or something like that....
[12:39] <matt____> is it possible to use lightscribe disk labling in ubuntu? on the lightscribe website, it has a linux versian, (rpm), but clearly says it doesn't support debian. if i convery it with alien, will that do it? or is it something more than that?
[12:39] <nceterval> HuibertGill, I see...  Well, would it be better to just force one option or another?  Also, where does apt put cached debs?
[12:39] <ski-worklap> dobbbob, glxinfo
[12:39] <crimsun_> matt____: cdrecord supports lightscribe, yes.
[12:39] <kitche> dobbbob: glxinfo|grep rendering
[12:39] <ski-worklap> pipe it into less there's a lot of output
[12:39] <HuibertGill> nceterval: I'm sorry but I have to pickup my wife from the station, so I'll be off and can't help you anymore, I hope you get your upgrade fixed, but it does not look to good ATM, "may the source be with you!"
[12:39] <matt____> so how do i go about that?
[12:40] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Thanks
[12:40] <matt____> cdrecord, a program?
[12:40] <crimsun_> matt____: it's the backend burning program that just about all gui burning apps use.
[12:40] <HuibertGill> nceterval: apt location: "/var/cache/apt/archives/"
[12:40] <matt____> how do i get it?
[12:40] <eilker> what happens if i disable pcmcia script in booting, i am on pc...
[12:40] <mzanfardino> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37254/
[12:40] <dobbbob> what is the glxcommand to SHOW the glxgears framerate?
[12:41] <Krinkle> if I install ubuntu without a mount onto a partition can it still see that partition? If I had .avi files could it read them? If not, what should I mount on it where it woln't hurt the data?
[12:41] <HuibertGill> nceterval: If you achive anything or want to conntact me later just write, I'll wil lcheck later with "lastlog"
[12:41] <matt____> how can i get cdrecord?
[12:41] <nceterval> HuibertGill, Alright
[12:41] <HuibertGill> bye, bye
[12:41] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: take a close look at the two libjavaplugin*.so
[12:42] <ski-worklap> dobbbob, hmm i dunno, but if you find out please let me know i'd like to see what i get
[12:42] <rickympl> hi. why is it that when i plugin a usbdisk, it mounts it but it displays characters like  in a weird way?
[12:42] <mzanfardino> oh-kay....
[12:42] <ski-worklap> richiefrich, do you have nls=utf8 in your mount options?
[12:42] <bobbyc> hello, i was attempting to modify file permissions for a file "/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom" but i've gone and messed it up and now i cant even access it
[12:43] <rickympl> ski-worklap, how can i check that? sorry
[12:43] <bobbyc> can anyone tell me how to get rwx for this file please
[12:43] <bobbyc> my second day using linux
[12:43] <mzanfardino> crimsun_: one is a logical link to /usr/local/jrel... while the other points to /etc/alternatives/firefox...
[12:43] <ski-worklap> rickympl, check the output of mount
[12:43] <cmweb> how do i uninstall
[12:43] <cmweb> apt-get uninstall?
[12:43] <ski-worklap> bobbyc, sudo chmod 755 /your/file
[12:43] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: yes, now follow the /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so symlink
[12:44] <adrian> how do i install apche from terminal
[12:44] <ski-worklap> does anyone else have problems with sun java 1.5 crashing both as firefox and with standalone programs like azureus?
[12:44] <rickympl> ski-worklap, i get this: /dev/sdc1 on /media/SWISSMEMORY type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[12:44] <eilker> !lamp |adrian
[12:44] <ubotu> adrian: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:44] <mzanfardino> crimsun_:  points to: firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/lib/libgcjwebplugin.so
[12:44] <matt____> how can i get cdrecord?
[12:44] <ski-worklap> rickympl, hmm, it says utf8 in there, which seems right to me, so i'm not sure to be honest
[12:44] <c0rt3z> anyone ever use jetaudio mp3players?
[12:44] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: so more than likely you don't want that.
[12:45] <cmweb> !uninstall
[12:45] <matt____> can someone walk me through setting up lightscribe?
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <rickympl> ski-worklap, could it be that the dir in question was copied to the disk using windows?
[12:45] <mzanfardino> should I simply delete it?
[12:45] <ski-worklap> rickympl, that's my assumption, yes
[12:45] <bobbyc> hey thanks ski
[12:45] <eilker> cmweb: apt-get remove ?
[12:45] <cvrse> bobbyc: u dont need +x on that file, sudo chmod 644 /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[12:45] <rickympl> ski-worklap, how can i fix this?
[12:46] <matt____> lightscribe help?
[12:46] <ski-worklap> rickympl, sorry, i don't have any other ideas. try google and such or wait until someone more knowledgeable comes around
[12:46] <matt____> please
[12:46] <rickympl> ski-worklap, thx
[12:46] <mzanfardino> brb
[12:46] <ski-worklap> ubuntuforums is a great reource
[12:47] <pianoboy3333> !lightscribe
[12:47] <mame_runner> I have downloaded tons of programs for ubuntu and now I am going to wipe my drive clean and start over. Is there any way to save the packages I downloaded and that way I wont need such heavy use of the network connection?
[12:47] <grogoreo> why is it that I can see the output from my Hauppage card in Ekiga but not in VLc and transcode not getting anything from it?
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <cmweb> Ok it says that php4 is not install but the php4 php.ini file is still their how do i do a compleate removal in term
[12:49] <mzanfardino> crimsun_: I removed the link to the /etc/alternative, retstarted firfox, and still no java... damnit, what am I doing wrong?
[12:49] <cmweb> in terminal * LAST MESSAGE
[12:49] <adrian> I want to install apache mysql etc, is their a gui or web interface I can use
[12:50] <grogoreo> cmweb, apt-get --purge remove <package>
[12:50] <cmweb> adrian, apt-get install apach2
[12:50] <TCrafter> @adrian: You should be able to install them from Synaptic - PhpMyAdmin is the standard web interface to MySQL.
[12:51] <cmweb> Ok my bad i forgot i got to tewll apache that php5 is teir
[12:51] <cmweb> how do i setup apache for php5
[12:51] <jrib> mzanfardino: why would you delete it?
[12:51] <aliendream23> hello, I have a question
[12:51] <matt____> anyone have a clue about lightscribe in ubuntu?
[12:52] <aliendream23> is there a flavor of linux that can load onto a palm device or pda?
[12:52] <Drako60> why does this happen to me
[12:52] <jrib> !lamp | cmweb
[12:52] <ubotu> cmweb: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:52] <aliendream23> to replace the software that comes with the device
[12:52] <cmweb> IVE ALREDY GOT LAMP
[12:52] <cmweb> my bad
[12:52] <cmweb> my bad
[12:52] <crimsun_> mzanfardino: did you verify that the Sun one is valid?
[12:52] <cmweb> sorry
[12:53] <jrib> cmweb: does that page help you?
[12:53] <TCrafter> Does anyone have experience with Ubuntu x64, or can point me to a resource that describes the advantages/disadvantages?
[12:53] <adrian> i need to install mysql and perl from terminal?
[12:53] <mzanfardino> jrib: let me bottom-line it: I'm relatively new to linux, I have no idea why java isn't working.  I have no other place to turn.  Why did I delete the reference?  I misunderstood the line of questioning from crimsun and thought that might be the next step.  Clearly I was mistaken.
[12:53] <n2diy> Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?
[12:53] <d3> This weather.sh / xslt puked out a parse error for conky. any fix I look for tells me about php4/5
[12:54] <ValMarko> What does it mean sh ?
[12:54] <mzanfardino> crimsun_: I'm not sure how to verify that the Sun one is valid... how would I do that?
[12:54] <cmweb> jrib, nope
[12:54] <alaa_> hi, im installing cdemu but i dont know what they mean by you need the source of your current running kernel.
[12:54] <alaa_> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include needs to point at it.
[12:54] <IrCShAdY> hello i neeed help plz
[12:54] <cmweb> !ask
[12:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <Infeliz> aint get it
[12:54] <ValMarko> ! sh
[12:54] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:54] <Drako60> does anyone know what happened in the last kernel update for Edgy (AMD64) that messed things up so badly?
[12:54] <jrib> cmweb: but it tells you how to setup Php5 with Apache.  What step doesn't work?
[12:54] <d3> Infeliz, you get around eh?
[12:55] <Infeliz> uh
[12:55] <cmweb> hu, didnt see that jrib
[12:55] <ValMarko> sh extensions. What does it mean?
[12:55] <d3> Or is that a different Infeliz on efnet's #ubuntu.
[12:55] <IrCShAdY> Sh=Shell
[12:55] <jrib> cmweb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-59bdeb1f6438eddbde544b41ca0a5149c59624b6
[12:55] <cmweb> jrib, i only see php5 with mysql
[12:55] <mzanfardino> jrib: I'be relinked to the /etc/alternative path...
[12:55] <Infeliz> d3: sam guy
[12:56] <mzanfardino> crimsun_: how do I verify that it's valid?
[12:56] <IrCShAdY> i want install my modem Sageme 800 but i have 2error in (make)
[12:56] <ValMarko> ! flash
[12:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <d3> Infeliz, nice to meet ya sam. ;)
[12:56] <IrCShAdY> i want install my modem Sageme 800 but i have 2error in (make)
[12:56] <jrib> mzanfardino: personally, I would remove the local installation of java you have.  Install from the repositories, and then use alternatives to point to that one
[12:56] <IrCShAdY> Any one cna help me?
[12:56] <adrian> any gui available to configure apache
[12:57] <joeish> i am getting this error when trying to play DVD's in mplayer "failed to open dvd:\\1"....forums dont help
[12:57] <cmweb> jrib, i guess it works... i didnt have libapache2-mod-php5
[12:57] <mzanfardino> crimsun_: nm, I think I know what you mean
[12:57] <[A] ndy80> hi
[12:57] <Drako60> joeish, try dvd://1
[12:58] <[A] ndy80> how can I rename all files in sub-directories of mp3/ from <filename>.MP3 to <filename>.mp3 ?
[12:58] <adrian> how can i install webmin from terminal
[12:58] <Hirvinen> [A] ndy80: man rename
[12:58] <[A] ndy80> something like: find /mp3/ -iname '*.MP3' | mv $1
[12:58] <Lunis> [A] ndy80: a batch renamer might be a good start, there are a couple in the repos
[12:58] <mzanfardino> jrib: honestly, I thought I did just that.  I had jre 1.4.2 installed, but have since removed it (or so I though). ...
[12:58] <Hirvinen> [A] ndy80: Or use a graphical tool such as krename.
[12:58] <jrib> [A] ndy80: with the rename command, do you know regex?
[12:59] <[A] ndy80> jrib, very little...
[12:59] <joeish> drako thats what the error says i typed it backwards
[12:59] <mzanfardino> jrib: I really don't have any freaking idea what I'm doing... how do I completely remove jre1.4.2?
[12:59] <adrian> Anybody know of a GUI for apache 2
[12:59] <Drako60> joeish, do you have libdvdnav installed from apt?
[12:59] <d3> Here's an odd one... Anyplace in the OS that tells me when I installed it?
[12:59] <joeish> Drako60, i will check
[12:59] <ana> anyone aware of a problem doing a cp from a nfs (as the client)?  My system keeps freezing (not even Ctl-Alt-F1) after transferring ~gig of data
[01:00] <jrib> mzanfardino: ok, check for me if you have any packaged java installed already
[01:00] <mzanfardino> jrib:  dpkg -l | grep java ?
[01:00] <ValMarko> I have flash installed but , when I want to watch some video from youtube, it asks for the latest flash, 7. It's the one I have. What should I do
[01:00] <joeish> Drako60, no it wasn't
[01:00] <jrib> [A] ndy80: rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *     <-- try this, it won't do anything unless you remove the -n
[01:00] <Drako60> joeish, good, libdvdcss from apt?
[01:01] <mzanfardino> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37257/
[01:01] <jrib> [A] ndy80: maybe this is a little better:   rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *.MP3
[01:01] <root_> clear
[01:02] <[A] ndy80> jrib, I've to substitute MP3 with mp3, from upper to lower
[01:02] <jrib> [A] ndy80: yes, that command should work, did you try it?
[01:02] <joeish> Drako60, installed libdvdnav and i get the same error
[01:02] <[A] ndy80> jrib, 'cause of a iPod firmware bug... try to upload a .MP3 on an iPod nano 2nd generation, and it will crash :)
[01:03] <jrib> mzanfardino: ok, so we need to install that.  Remove the installation you have in /usr/local
[01:03] <Drako60> joeish, do you have libdvdcss installed from apt? and you don't want libdvdnav installed from apt it messes with mplayer for some reason
[01:03] <mzanfardino> the /usr/local/jre1.5.0_09?
[01:03] <jrib> mzanfardino: yep
[01:03] <joeish> Drako60, libdvdnav was not originally installed, libdvdcss is installed
[01:03] <[A] ndy80> jrib, is it possible to make it recursive?
[01:04] <jrib> [A] ndy80: use find
[01:04] <mzanfardino> jrib: done
[01:04] <Drako60> joeish, whats the full command your using with mplayer?
[01:04] <MystaMax> hello what does the "d" on the end of folder names mean inside the /etc/ folder???
[01:04] <Intangir> directory
[01:04] <Capslock118> i deleted a rather large folder from off one of my HDDs, it doesnt show that it is there, yet the space is still taken up, why is this?
[01:04] <Intangir> Capslock118: it probably put it in the trash
[01:04] <Intangir> if you deleted it from inside nautilus it moves it to trash
[01:04] <littleEdgy> hello all
[01:05] <jrib> [A] ndy80: or zsh :)
[01:05] <Drako60> http://pastebin.ca/280555  <-- i need some help here my kernel wants to blow up on me
[01:05] <hexidigital_> how can i not require sudo for wlassistant? chmod +x /usr/bin/wlassistant?
[01:05] <Capslock118> Intangir: trash can is empty
[01:05] <joeish> Drako60, in the gui i am rightclicking and selecting open....DVD
[01:05] <Drako60> joeish, do you have more then one drive?
[01:05] <mzanfardino> jrib: ok, now that it's gone, what should I do?
[01:05] <littleEdgy> Besides newegg and tigerdirect where can I get comp hardware w/ good shipping
[01:05] <joeish> Drako60, yes
[01:06] <[A] ndy80> jrib, I'm trying find /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' | rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' * but it doesn't scan subfolders...
[01:06] <Drako60> joeish, open preferences and make sure the proper /dev line is in the dvd-device feild
[01:06] <joeish> Drako60, but the other one is completely unresponsive (i think it is the drive)
[01:07] <jrib> mzanfardino: what version of ubuntu?
[01:07] <mzanfardino> jrib 6.10
[01:07] <jrib> [A] ndy80: it should.  You need to get rid of -n or else it won't actually change the name
[01:07] <mzanfardino> jrib: I've edited my /etc/apt/sources.list to include all sources...
[01:07] <jrib> [A] ndy80: oops, no that won't work.  use | xargs rename
[01:08] <annylux> hello
[01:08] <mzanfardino> jrib: I ran apt-cache search sun-java5-plugin, but found nothing
[01:08] <jrib> mzanfardino: ok, install sun-java5-plugin
[01:08] <Drako60> joeish, try this command from terminal mplayer -vf lavcdeint -dvd-device /dev/cdrom0 dvd://1 (replace /dev/cdrom0 with the proper drive)
[01:08] <jrib> mzanfardino: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[01:08] <jrib> [A] ndy80: do any files have spaces?
[01:09] <[A] ndy80> jrib, find  /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' -r | xargs rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *
[01:09] <[A] ndy80> ?
[01:09] <[A] ndy80> still doesn't work...
[01:09] <jrib> [A] ndy80: what does the -r do?  And you have to get rid of the -n!!
[01:09] <mzanfardino> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37259/
[01:09] <Fozzie> G'evening all
[01:09] <[A] ndy80> (yes I know about the -n option... but only MP3 in the root are dispolayed
[01:10] <[A] ndy80> jrib, sorry.... I made a mistake copy-pasting
[01:10] <[A] ndy80> I used:
[01:10] <Fozzie> i need to talk to someone about ATI/AMD FGLRX troubleshooting.   Is anyone available?
[01:10] <jrib> [A] ndy80: find  /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/'
[01:10] <joeish> Drako60, thanks a million....mplayer was pointing...well nothing (changed it to hdc and done!)
[01:10] <[A] ndy80> find /media/usbdisk/MP3/ -iname '*.MP3' | xargs rename -n 's/\.MP3$/.mp3/' *
[01:10] <mzanfardino> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37260/
[01:11] <ibb-> nivida configuration problems, i got a nvidia 7950gt that wont get identified
[01:11] <jrib> mzanfardino: you don't have edgy multiverse
[01:11] <jrib> only backprots
[01:11] <Capslock118> so what could be the reason why the folder I deleted didnt full delete itself?
[01:11] <Capslock118> it didnt move to the trash, and the folder still exists
[01:11] <Fozzie> FGLRX help needed
[01:11] <Capslock118> could it be a shortcut folder and I didnt realize it?
[01:11] <ValMarko> I dont understan. Firefox doesnt recognize flash plugin but mozilla can. In other words, I can watch videos from youtube using but nothing happens when I use Firefox. What the solution?
[01:11] <Capslock118> im trying to move everything from NTFS to ext3
[01:12] <kitche> Capslock118: or you just did rm command and the folder wasn't empty
[01:12] <mzanfardino> jrib: ok, what do I need to do to add multiverse?  I thought I have multiverse listed, but maybe I'm not seeing the right thing
[01:12] <Capslock118> kitche: i just hit the del key, the folder disappeared but there was about id say around 30gb of data in there
[01:13] <Fozzie> Anyone available to help me?
[01:13] <kudzubane> ValMarko: download the flash plugin manually, and install manually, this worked for me
[01:13] <jrib> mzanfardino: add " multiverse" to the end of every line with "universe" in it but no "multiverse".  Lines 16, 17, 31 and 32
[01:14] <SilentDis> valmarko:  where did you put the .so file you downloaded?
[01:14] <[A] ndy80> jrib, it worked partially, I get some errors like: Can't rename /media/usbdisk/MP3/FILOMENA.MP3 /media/usbdisk/MP3/FILOMENA.mp3: File exists
[01:14] <kudzubane> ValMarko: plugin package didn't work for me either under firefox
[01:14] <Fozzie> help, please?
[01:14] <ValMarko> I used easyubuntu
[01:14] <SilentDis> !ask | Fozzie
[01:14] <ubotu> Fozzie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <BlackHawk> gn8
[01:14] <jrib> [A] ndy80: self explanatory though, right?
[01:14] <Fozzie> Ubotu, i did, earlier
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i did, earlier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <SilentDis> fozzie:  I just got here.  can't help if I don't know what's going on :)
[01:15] <jrib> Fozzie: don't ask for help, just repeat your question once in a while
[01:15] <[A] ndy80> jrib, not exactly..... because FILOMENA.MP3 is not FILOMENA.mp3 (should be case sensitive...)
[01:15] <n2diy> ValMarko, back up your stuff, last time I tried getting the plugins, I had a hard crash.
[01:15] <Mask> Someone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative
[01:15] <joeish> i am trying to add a CD-RW/DVD+-R to fstab and want to know what type/options/etc i should use
[01:15] <mzanfardino> jrib: ok, I've added "multiverse" to all lines with universe.  However, when I run apt-cache search sun-java5-plugin I still get zip
[01:16] <Fozzie> i'm having problems with radeon 900m.  I've followed instructions in faqs to install fglrx and it still isnt' working
[01:16] <jrib> mzanfardino: sudo apt-get update
[01:16] <Fozzie> in troubleshooting, it said to come here and ask for more help
[01:16] <SilentDis> fozzie:  do you get errors when you select that driver from x setup?
[01:16] <jrib> [A] ndy80: and both files don't exist? FILOMENA.MP3 and FILOMENA.mp3?
[01:16] <kudzubane> Fozzie: dedicated video mem, or shared?
[01:17] <[A] ndy80> jrib, only FILOMENA.MP3 exist
[01:17] <Mask> Someone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative. Who know pvt-please!!!
[01:17] <mzanfardino> jrib: son of a gun...
[01:17] <n2diy> Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?
[01:17] <Fozzie> silentdis, sorry, x setup?
[01:17] <kudzubane> !repeat
[01:17] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:17] <jrib> [A] ndy80: hmm weird
[01:17] <Pelo> blazor are you around ?
[01:17] <mzanfardino> jrib: so, before I go any further, I suppose I should install the sun-java5-plugin.  what about jre1.5.x?
[01:17] <Fozzie> fraid to say i'm pretty new to linux and ubuntu.  I love it so far, i'm just trying to fine tune my laptop now
[01:17] <ValMarko> Where do I get the sources for the manual installation of adobe flash player?
[01:18] <jrib> mzanfardino: it will get installed automatically
[01:18] <TCrafter> !patience
[01:18] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:18] <SilentDis> Fozzie:  after you install the new vid driver, it's usually best to go back through your x configuration to make sure it's setup right.  an easy way to do this is to hit a console, and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:18] <jrib> ValMarko: adobe's site
[01:18] <Capslock118> ok, tried deleting something else on another drive, but it still doesnt show that I lost anything
[01:18] <mzanfardino> jrib: and my references to jre1.4.2?  will they go away?
[01:18] <joeish> i am trying to add a CD-RW/DVD+-R to fstab and want to know what type/options/etc i should use
[01:18] <jrib> mzanfardino: no, you'll have to take care of that
[01:19] <kudzubane> ValMarko: go to the flash page (http://www.flash.com) and click on any of the get flash player buttons
[01:19] <ValMarko> thanks
[01:19] <Capslock118> Im thinking, I moved files from NTFS to ext3. Could that be why it isnt showing that is being deleted, perhaps everything on the drive is just a shortcut?
[01:19] <mzanfardino> jrib: should I just remove the directories that make reference to jre1.4.2?
[01:19] <Fozzie> SilentDis, ok, i'm in there, what do you need to know?  Fglrx is in the list of drivers
[01:19] <jrib> mzanfardino: yeah, I guess.  Do a 'dpkg -S /whatever/file' first.  That will tell you if it belongs to any package
[01:19] <kudzubane> Capslock118:  good chance everything is copied instead
[01:20] <SilentDis> joeish:  mine happens to be on hdc, so ymmv.  a basic one would be /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[01:20] <joeish> SilentDis, ok thats what i had....still not working
[01:20] <SilentDis> fozzie:  go through that setup, step by step.  choose the fglrx driver, and take it slow, read each screen :)
[01:21] <jrib> [A] ndy80: what if you  issue the rename command directly on the file?
[01:21] <[A] ndy80> jrib, I've to rename fist to .MP3_ then to .mp3
[01:21] <Fozzie> SilentDis No problem.  Do i need to be exact on things like "Identifier for your Video Card"? or will this just be reference?
[01:21] <mzanfardino> jrib:  I have two suspect directories in /usr/lib/jvm: java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-<IP_ADDRESS>.0 and java-gcj...
[01:21] <[A] ndy80> it's fat32 the usbdisk :(
[01:22] <jrib> mzanfardino: leave those
[01:22] <mzanfardino> ok
[01:22] <mzanfardino> jrib: I'm goin got try this now.  Thank you very much for your help and patients!
[01:22] <jrib> mzanfardino: wait
[01:22] <Capslock118> kudzubane: if that is the case then why am i not seeing these files deleted right away?
[01:22] <mzanfardino> ok
[01:22] <SilentDis> fozzie:  you have to be exact... but having said that, the tool is always there if you fsck things up, and you can go through it again without reprocussion.  (worst that'll happen is you'll end up sitting at a prompt).
[01:22] <mzanfardino> jrib: ok
[01:22] <Mask> Someone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative. Who know PVT-plz
[01:22] <ValMarko> Well, I followed all the instructions from Adobe official site. Nothing ! I cant watch videos from youtube. Nevertheless , using mozilla... I can
[01:23] <SilentDis> fozzie:  also, it backs up your old x.conf, so you can just rename the old one into place, should the need arise
[01:23] <jrib> mzanfardino: make sure you get rid of that java link that _doesn't_ point to alternatives.  Then, do this command: sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-javaplugin.so
[01:23] <kudzubane> Capslock118: if NTFS is mounted read-only, nothing gets deleted
[01:23] <jrib> ValMarko: where did you install it to
[01:23] <Fozzie> SilentDis Awesome, i'll work through and get back to you soon.  Many many thanks
[01:23] <kudzubane> Capslock118:  (i'm assuming you are moving things from ntfs to ext3)
[01:23] <Blah93> Does anybody know a way to listen to embed mp3s in firefox?
[01:23] <SilentDis> fozzie:  sorry, old convention.  the file name it changes is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it makes it's backups right there as well
[01:24] <joeish> i am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it
[01:24] <ValMarko> Good question. a plce where I have permissions. Home.. something
[01:24] <Capslock118> kudzubane: yes i am
[01:24] <jrib> ValMarko: you need to be more specific for me to help you :)
[01:24] <Capslock118> kudzubane: but im referring to deleting files in my ext3 fs
[01:25] <mzanfardino> jrib: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37262/
[01:25] <Mask> Someone can tell me how where is disk manager. My ubuntu version is 6.10 but it isnt in System > Administrative. Who know PVT-plz
[01:25] <Blah93> Are there any drivers out there for edgy embed mp3s?
[01:25] <Blah93> in firefox
[01:25] <jrib> mzanfardino: right, you want 3
[01:26] <jrib> mzanfardino: close all firefox and start it again now to test
[01:26] <mzanfardino> jrib: ok, I've removed the symbolic link and run the update-alternative.  I suppose I can try it now?
[01:26] <SilentDis> Blah93:  try this, open synaptic (or whatever package manager you prefer) and type in firefox plugin.  check out the descriptions :)
[01:26] <mzanfardino> jrib: thank you again!
[01:26] <RedKrieg> I'm trying to get my USB mic to work in alsa using http://crache.net/blog/2006/05/06/logitech-usb-desktop-microphone-in-linux/ but I need my .asoundrc file to use spdif .asoundrc here: http://pastebin.redkrieg.com/?page=view&id=1166228337 anyone know what I can do to use the usb for input and spdif for output?
[01:26] <kudzubane> Capslock118: did you check the permissions on the files?
[01:26] <joeish> i am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it
[01:27] <ValMarko> Before that I installed flash using easyubuntu. Is there a conflict ? What should I do to make Firefox recognise the plugin?
[01:27] <SilentDis> i shall be right back.  kde is still a bit jolting to me, and I don't quite know where everything is yet.  gonna hop back to gnome so I can better help people :)
[01:27] <Capslock118> kudzubane: when I mounted the drive, i gave myself permissions
[01:27] <Blah93> SilentDis: Will do
[01:27] <toM|vendettA> Hi, I am trying to install my Quickcam for Notebook pro, the linux-uvc drivers support it, and i dont know how to install them (http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/)
[01:28] <toM|vendettA> can someone hel?
[01:28] <toM|vendettA> help
[01:28] <mohit> hey all
[01:28] <kudzubane> Capslock118: i mean, the actual file permission (it is possible to mount and have rw perm, but file still has read only)
[01:29] <joeish> i am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it
[01:29] <toM|vendettA> Hi, I am trying to install my Quickcam for Notebook pro, the linux-uvc drivers support it, and i dont know how to install them (http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/)
[01:29] <flasher222> how can i make one track/voice in a midi file louder than the others?
[01:29] <flasher222> (using timidity, for example)
[01:30] <Capslock118> kudzubane: it shows owner (me) has rw, while group and others have read only
[01:30] <MystaMax> when i run man samba from the CLI, where is it pulling that data from?
[01:30] <Capslock118> kudzubane: although the group says my name
[01:30] <kudzubane> Capslock118: and does it show files as links to original?
[01:30] <toM|vendettA> Hi, I am trying to install my Quickcam for Notebook pro, the linux-uvc drivers support it, and i dont know how to install from http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[01:31] <Capslock118> kudzubane: how do i see that?
[01:31] <ValMarko> I'm using Beryl but I heard that there is also compiz. What's the better one?
[01:31] <Uboon2> "beryl rocks"
[01:32] <SilentDis> valmarko:  the term 'better' has many meanings...  neither is 'better', one is simply better suited to someone else than the other.  (i, personally, prefer beryl) :)
[01:32] <Blah93> SilentDis: it still will not play mp3 objects in firefox
[01:32] <kitche> MystaMax:  /usr/share/man is one spot
[01:32] <ValMarko> I understand. Dependsof what you want
[01:32] <piratepenguin> would Ubuntu run in 5Gb of space?
[01:32] <Blah93> SilentDis: I have the mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:33] <jamesbrose> piratepenguin, yes it would
[01:33] <Fozzie> SilentDis, I've worked through that.  Was very interesting, i hope that i answered it all correctly.  What should be the next step?
[01:33] <MystaMax> thanks kitche
[01:33] <jamesbrose> piratepenguin, the minimum is really 1 gig
[01:33] <SilentDis> fozzie:  time to restart gdm and cross your fingers lol
[01:33] <piratepenguin> jamesbrose, wow, thanks
[01:33] <kitche> ValMarko: Compiz is done by Novell and is not really complete while beryl used to be compiz-quinnstorm and is more complete
[01:33] <Fozzie> SilentDis hehe, thanks.  I'll hopefully be right back
[01:33] <joeish> i am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it
[01:33] <SilentDis> again, the config file we're working on is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  there's backups there as well.
[01:33] <jamesbrose> your welcome, now dig this piratepenguin, http://digg.com/design/Photoshop_CS3 :P
[01:34] <Fozzie> Ok
[01:34] <SilentDis> fozzie:  to restart gdm, just hit <ctrl>-<alt>-<backspace> (no need to reboot
[01:34] <mzanfardino> jrib: I'm sorry to keep at this, but I think I'm some kind of idiot.  After everything we've done java still does not work with Firefox 2.0.
[01:34] <PhibreOptix> Hey guys, I'm trying to get my friend to switch to ubuntu, but when he tries to burn the ISO to cd, it tells him that the CD can't fit that much data
[01:34] <kitche> PhibreOptix: you have to finish the cd it will fit but you have to close it after burning
[01:35] <TCrafter> Is he using a 700MB/80min CD?
[01:35] <jrib> mzanfardino: pastebin what 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/' looks like now.  pastebin the page 'about:plugins' displays in firefox too
[01:35] <PhibreOptix> TCrafter: Yes
[01:35] <PhibreOptix> kitche: So, he has to close the open sessions on it?
[01:35] <TCrafter> What program is he using?
[01:35] <PhibreOptix> TCrafter: Nero 7
[01:35] <SilentDis> blah93:  what site are you trying to stream mp3s over?  they might have some sort of weird 'tool' that's necessary to do it.  (this is not something i've done before, just trying to offer suggestions, btw)
[01:35] <Fozzie> SilentDis Didn't know that! handy
[01:36] <SilentDis> fozzie:  nt :)
[01:36] <Fozzie> SilentDis ok, its apparent i still have video, whats the best way to check to see if its working?
[01:36] <TCrafter> Is he using the "Burn Image" from the File menu, rather than dropping the ISO onto the session?
[01:36] <johny5> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an older machine that does not support boot from cd-rom, can anyone point me to a good howto for making a boot floppy for this purpose?
[01:36] <kitche> PhibreOptix: yes it should say something like finish when that screen pops up there should be cancel and yes just click ont he one that's on the left side of that window that pops up
[01:36] <mborg> hey i'm a noob and i'm having some totem issues. .wmv, .avi, .mov video formats do not work at all in totem
[01:36] <piratepenguin> jamesbrose, heh, I think the gimp will do for my crop&resize jobs tho XD
[01:36] <Blah93> SilentDis: Whenever I go to nedm.ytmnd.com I don't hear any background music
[01:36] <Capslock118> kudzubane: someone else I was talking to claims that linux doesnt tell you what is deleted, instead it will just write over the information, what doesnt make sense to me is why wouldnt the system tell you how much space the stuff you didnt delete uses up?
[01:36] <Stormx2> Yo. Is linux-kernel-headers the new linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:36] <evilgold> Hey, this is kinda odd, but my wireless card isnt picking up networks even though it seems to be working fine otherwise
[01:36] <PhibreOptix> TCrafter: Yes he is burning it as an image
[01:36] <jamesbrose> piratepenguin, still!
[01:36] <SilentDis> fozzie:  glxinfo | grep direct
[01:37] <mzanfardino> jrib: ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37264/
[01:37] <carutsu> scuse me
[01:37] <Stormx2> !+linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[01:37] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386: Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on i386. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-10.34 (edgy), package size 898 kB, installed size 24344 kB
[01:37] <piratepenguin> jamesbrose, oh.. I don't digg, actually, lol
[01:37] <Stormx2> bleh.
[01:37] <Stormx2> I need that deb.
[01:37] <globe> is there a way to tell which video driver I should be using?
[01:37] <jamesbrose> piratepenguin, :O why nott?!
[01:37] <TCrafter> @PhibreOptix - OK, listen to kitche - I don't have Nero on the machine I'm working from :(
[01:37] <piratepenguin> jamesbrose, I spend enough time on forums :(
[01:37] <PhibreOptix> Ok guys, thanks for the help
[01:37] <PhibreOptix> ;)
[01:38] <mzanfardino> jrib: about:plugins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37266/
[01:38] <jamesbrose> piratepenguin, yeah but if you dig it, you will get a cookie :P
[01:38] <carutsu> hello, here's the story i downloaded ubuntu (it's in spanish), then i downloaded Kubuntu (KDE i mean) but it's in english, is there a way to change it? i haven't found it
[01:38] <mborg> is there a reason why totem shouldn't be able to play wmv, mov, or avi video formats?
[01:38] <Stormx2> Where can I get debs from? Im looking through security.ubuntu.com..... my internet is buggered in ubuntu and I'm in windows.
[01:38] <Fozzie> SilentDis Hmm, i don't think it is.  Xlib: Ext "Xfree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:38] <Fozzie> direct rendering: No
[01:38] <Fozzie> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:38] <kitche> Stormx2: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <l3mr> globe: well, that depends on your graphics card...
[01:38] <Blah93> mborg: You need the codecs to play them
[01:38] <mborg> do you know of a good package?
[01:38] <jrib> mzanfardino: you have two of them.  I don't know if this would cause it to not work, but we should fix that.  I don't think firefox-javaplugin.so belongs.  use dpkg -S and see
[01:38] <Stormx2> Thanks
[01:38] <globe> l3mr its an intel integrated in a gateway mobo
[01:38] <Blah93> mborg: no, I have just recently switched to ubuntu from fc
[01:38] <carutsu> hello?
[01:39] <Blah93> hai
[01:39] <l3mr> globe: well then the default driver ubuntu choses should be fine...
[01:39] <mborg> does anyone know of a decent plugin package for totem?
[01:39] <ago> hi all
[01:39] <SilentDis> fozzie:  apparently not lol
[01:39] <jrib> mzanfardino: after you take care of that, what does this return:  readlink -f $(which firefox)
[01:39] <Fozzie> SilentDis Any ideas?
[01:39] <kudzubane> Capslock118: if you delete something in linux and then ls it, it should be gone
[01:39] <l3mr> globe: do you experience some problems, or why do you ask? :)
[01:39] <SilentDis> fozzie:  you went through, step by step, slowly, the instructions in the wiki?
[01:39] <l3mr> mborg: just use mplayer :)
[01:40] <Fozzie> SilentDis yep, double checked as i went
[01:40] <globe> l3mr: should....isnt.  I had 6.06 on it and it did everything right, reformat and put 6.10 on there and I get xserver failures
[01:40] <Blah93> im curious; is mplayer better than vlc?
[01:40] <joeish> i am trying to get my hp dvd writer 300c working but it is saying no medium found for every type of disk i put in it
[01:40] <mzanfardino> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37267/
[01:40] <l3mr> globe: did you upgrade using update-manager? or apt-get?
[01:40] <SilentDis> fozzie:  because i'm apt to suggest going through them again, just to be sure.  it's a pain, i know, but i had a similar problem first time I was getting into ubuntu... i missed the restricted modules :P
[01:40] <kitche> Blah93: it's more of an opinion whihc one is better
[01:40] <mzanfardino> jrib: does this mean it should be removed/
[01:40] <Capslock118> kudzubane: so would you say it is safe to delete my ntfs tables since everything seems to be transferred over?
[01:40] <kudzubane> Capslock118: whether it is done right as you execute is another matter, but generally it takes a very short amount of time for the actual delete to happen, and certainly, the system knows the files are slated for deletion and will show you proper disk space usage
[01:40] <globe> l3mr: neither.  I reformatted and put in the install cd.
[01:40] <jrib> mzanfardino: dpkg -S  capital and give the full path
[01:41] <Fozzie> SilentDis Missed the Restricted Modules?  Adding them to the sources?
[01:41] <mzanfardino> jrib: dpkg: *firefox-javaplugin.so* not found.
[01:41] <Blah93> kitche: what I meant was does one have more coecs than the other?
[01:41] <SilentDis> fozzie:  installing them properly :P
[01:41] <kudzubane> Capslock118: i would find out why you can't delete the files you transfered first
[01:41] <l3mr> globe: hmm, dunno. i did have some x problems too, at first, but running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg helped...
[01:41] <jrib> mzanfardino: ok, delete it.  That's the one you put back probably
[01:41] <kitche> Blah93: they use the same codec packages
[01:41] <Blah93> kitche: is it just the whole "features" aspecct of it that varies?
[01:42] <globe> l3mr: I've had this problem in the past...and got it working on a gateway laptop but this time i am stuck
[01:42] <l3mr> globe: paste the error message in the pastebing
[01:42] <ago> half partition has vanished!!! cfdisk showing 18GB and df 9GB
[01:42] <mzanfardino> jrib: readlink -f $(which firefox)    /opt/firefox/firefox
[01:42] <l3mr> pastebin
[01:42] <SilentDis> !ati | Fozzie-just to be sure
[01:42] <ubotu> Fozzie-just to be sure: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:42] <jrib> mzanfardino: does that tell you anything?
[01:42] <kitche> Blah93: well vlc is more idiot proof I put it that way
[01:42] <mzanfardino> jrib: I'm in the wrong directory?!?
[01:42] <globe> l3mr: um.  how can I do such things w/o x?
[01:42] <Blah93> kitche: then I gotta get mplayer :D
[01:43] <pepik> can anyone recommend LPI vs. CompTIA? I don't actually need the qualification for anything, just considering it as a more structured way to learn Linux for personal use.
[01:43] <jrib> mzanfardino: yeah, you are using your own private installation of firefox.  Edgy has firefox 2.0 so I would just get rid of your private one.  Do this to test things out:  close firefox, then run '/usr/bin/firefox' in a terminal
[01:43] <niu> why i cant use the usplash?
[01:43] <l3mr> globe: hmm ok :) ... what does the error say?
[01:43] <mzanfardino> jrib: I have to exit IRC.  one sec
[01:44] <cmweb> ljl, im sorry but could you walk me throught the process of getting php5 intergrated with apache 2, (please dont yell at me...)
[01:44] <SilentDis> !lamp | cmweb
[01:44] <ubotu> cmweb: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:44] <cmweb> ljl, you told me before
[01:44] <Capslock118> kudbunzu: im not sure, perhaps I did not catch it at first. I just deleted 7 gb of data from the ext3 drive and it did register in the mount properties: I am curious as to why it doesnt head to the trash can first
[01:44] <cmweb> i have lamp for the third time today
[01:45] <ago> is there any other way to hide files other than .name in linux?
[01:45] <cmweb> the process didnt work
[01:45] <SilentDis> cmweb:  sorry, just noticed your chatter, was simply trying to help :)
[01:45] <kitche> Capslock118: it won't unless you use a gui since the trash can is only used by the desktop environments
[01:45] <cmweb> yep
[01:45] <SilentDis> ago:  why hide a file?  simply restrict access from others to it
[01:45] <Stormx2> how do I get the USB ID of a device?
[01:45] <Capslock118> kitche: ive been in gnome this whole time
[01:45] <Stormx2> like
[01:45] <Stormx2> 6891:a727
[01:45] <ago> SilentDis, half or my partition seems to have vanished
[01:45] <flasher222> how can i convert a midi file to mp3?
[01:45] <daniminas> why ubuntu dapper dont have on the cd a complier, cvs.. all this basic.... i alway need to donwload :-\
[01:46] <SilentDis> ago:  eh?
[01:46] <kitche> Capslock118: but were you deleting files though a terminal?
[01:46] <Capslock118> kitche: no, through nautilus
[01:46] <SilentDis> daniminas:  the DVD does i believe...
[01:46] <ago> SilentDis, cfdisk shows 18GB but df only 9GB (I am talking total space)
[01:46] <jrib> daniminas: it has a compiler, not sure about cvs.  Install build-essential from the cd to get basic development stuff
[01:46] <mzanfardino> jrib: well, it made no difference to run /usr/bin/firefox either as root or not. how the hell did I manage to install my own copy and how do I remove the bloody thing?  Not that it matters... java still isn't working.
[01:46] <pepik> !wireless
[01:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:47] <kitche> daniminas: the build-esstenial package is on the cd
[01:47] <SilentDis> ago:  odd.  what about fdisk -l
[01:47] <daniminas> ok..... build-essential...
[01:47] <Capslock118> brb
[01:47] <kudzubane> kitche: confused me seeing you here and flipping back and seeing you elsewhere
[01:47] <niu> i'm using the edgy but i my sreen can't init usplash!
[01:47] <rrittenhouse> I installed Ubuntu (edgy) command line only. Now I want to have X start up at boot without any login manager (is this possible?)
[01:47] <mzanfardino> jrib: sorry, bounced myself.
[01:47] <jrib> daniminas: is this computer without internet access?
[01:47] <ago> SilentDis, /dev/sda4             245        2676    19535040   83  Linux
[01:47] <Stormx2> Guys... how do I get a USB ID? Like 6891:a727
[01:48] <jrib> mzanfardino: ok, don't run firefox as root.  pastebin the about:plugins from the new firefox
[01:48] <daniminas> ok, so.. i dont know why apt-get install gcc dont work...
[01:48] <ago> SilentDis, df: /dev/sda4             245        2676    19535040   83  Linux
[01:48] <kitche> kudzubane: lol
[01:48] <HoORnet> hi! , please can you help me ? i want mount my partition vfat but i can't write on... what is the good command please for have acces write/read ?
[01:48] <jrib> !vfat | HoORnet
[01:48] <ubotu> HoORnet: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:48] <SilentDis> ago:  aargh, i can't remember block config, so that's not helping :P
[01:48] <Stormx2> Meeh
[01:48] <esaym> hate to ask a question here but i cant seem to get any res higher then 1280x1024
[01:48] <h0ndaracer2> helo everyone
[01:48] <drkm> in list view of a directory in gnome is alternates 2 colours.. is there a way I can change these colours?
[01:48] <jrib> !fixres | esaym
[01:48] <ubotu> esaym: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:48] <HoORnet> thanks
[01:48] <HoORnet> !vfat
[01:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:49] <Stormx2> Okay. Can ubotu tell me how to get a USB ID? xD
[01:49] <jrib> drkm: maybe with a theme, not sure
[01:49] <globe> l3mr: hmm...I think that I am getting it.  the error message is about 12 miles long.  thanks for your help though
[01:49] <esaym> i will read that but im sure i have already done it... one sec
[01:49] <h0ndaracer2> how do i delete a file it wont let me move it to the trash section
[01:49] <gnomefreak> drkm: you mean when you use ls?
[01:49] <Capslock118> back
[01:49] <SilentDis> esaym:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, when asked what res are options, mark off what you want.  make sure you choose wisely what higher res you wanna use :)
[01:49] <ago> SilentDis, basically I have 18GB on fdisk and 9 on df, I am concerned someone else has been using my HD, I am trying a way to find out
[01:49] <jrib> h0ndaracer2: what file
[01:49] <rrittenhouse> I installed Ubuntu (edgy) command line only. Now I want to have X start up at boot without any login manager (is this possible?)
[01:50] <esaym> yea i did that
[01:50] <h0ndaracer2> like somtin i downloaded for my wireless car a folder with stuff in it i dont need
[01:50] <h0ndaracer2> it wont let me delete it
[01:50] <SilentDis> ago:  ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:50] <drkm> gnomefreak: obviously a typo which was meant to be 'it'
[01:50] <esaym> it still uses 1280x1024
[01:50] <mzanfardino> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37269/
[01:50] <esaym> i want 1400x1050
[01:50] <daniminas> jrib: not, but not dsl..
[01:50] <h0ndaracer2> i use ubuntu
[01:50] <ValMarko> Sometimes I see files like , for example: something.sh . What is the meaning of sh attribute?
[01:50] <jrib> esaym: you selected that when you ran dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:50] <ago> SilentDis, ubuntu
[01:50] <kitche> h0ndaracer2: try sudo rm <file> in a console
[01:50] <esaym> yea
[01:50] <esaym> its in the xorg.conf
[01:50] <PhibreOptix> h0ndaracer2: sudo rmdir /path/to/folder
[01:50] <h0ndaracer2> ok
[01:50] <jrib> esaym: did you chec system > preferences > screen resolution now?
[01:50] <SilentDis> valmarko:  usually, .sh means a shell script or the like
[01:50] <esaym> using kubuntu
[01:50] <mzanfardino> jrib: should I just rm -r /opt/firefox?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> drkm: you mean when using ls you see files in 2 colors? or in GUI?
[01:51] <esaym> but the max it shows is 1280x1024
[01:51] <drkm> gnomefreak: in gnome nautilus gui
[01:51] <gnomefreak> drkm: that would be a theme
[01:51] <jrib> mzanfardino: ha, no I think i know what happened.  You have /usr/bin/firefox diverted so it points to that one :)
[01:51] <mzanfardino> jrib: let me check
[01:51] <Capslock118> why wouldnt something I delete in a mounted drive not end up in the trash can?
[01:51] <mrvertigo> blaksmith are you there
[01:52] <drkm> gnomefreak: ahh ok thanks.. I think I've found it
[01:52] <jrib> mzanfardino: close firefox again and run: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[01:52] <drkm> jrib: thanks too
[01:52] <gnomefreak> drkm: try a new icon theme (cant remember if icon or main theme)
[01:52] <mzanfardino> jrib: yep!
[01:52] <mzanfardino> jrib: brb
[01:52] <gnomefreak> jrib: you get the black window taken care of?
[01:52] <SilentDis> ago:  i'm not adept enough at command line to check these things yet... have you checked out the disk usage in Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[01:52] <gnomefreak> SilentDis: dh i think will do that on CLI
[01:53] <mrvertigo> blaksmith?
[01:53] <jrib> gnomefreak: no, I just live with it
[01:53] <gnomefreak> or not
[01:53] <kuto> hi
[01:53] <kuto> what is inputrc
[01:53] <gnomefreak> jrib: oh ok sorry
[01:53] <Capslock118> so i deleted an entire ext3 drive, it was my converted ntfs files
[01:53] <h0ndaracer2> how do i setup sudo rmdir then its  on my desktop lol
[01:53] <ValMarko> Silentdis, is it an extension only used in ubuntu? Do other linux systems also use it?
[01:53] <jrib> gnomefreak: it seems to be a bug in the nvidia driver
[01:53] <gnomefreak> jrib: correct
[01:54] <Capslock118> nothing ended up in the trash, now I am trying to put stuff back on it to test it out, and there is only 9gb left, even though i deleted all my stff in the folder (40gb)
[01:54] <LjL> cmweb: try "sudo a2enmod php5" or failing that "sudo a2enmod php" (i know, bit different from what i told you the other time, but i only learned about this recently)
[01:54] <zylche> Like the bug where I can't run Savage with xchat or firefox open or it'll crash randomly? :P
[01:54] <SilentDis> valmarko:  i've seen it elsewhere.  extensions don't carry quite the same 'meaning' under linux as they do under windows, mind you.
[01:54] <ago> SilentDis, any "high level" tool I have tried reports 9GB in all, but partitioning tools (that look at the device) tell me it should be 18GB.
[01:54] <SilentDis> ago:  did you partition off a seperate partition?
[01:54] <kitche> kuto: it deals with keyboard mapping for specific situations and is used by Readline which is used by bash and most other shells
[01:54] <jrib> h0ndaracer2: what do you mean?
[01:54] <mzanfardino> jrib: well, what do you know? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37270/
[01:54] <cmweb> ljl, This module is already enabled!
[01:55] <gnomefreak> SilentDis: sorry its df
[01:55] <h0ndaracer2> like how do i set the directory to my desktop sry im a noob with this linux stuff
[01:55] <kuto> kitche: does it deal with keyboard mapping with bash terminal?
[01:55] <jrib> mzanfardino: ah, is java working now?
[01:55] <ValMarko> :) I just installed ubuntu. I've been using windows since 1991 :)
[01:55] <kitche> kuto: Readline uses it which deals with bash
[01:55] <cmweb> ljl, would a restart help?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> h0ndaracer2: drag and drop it? or cp
[01:55] <h0ndaracer2> whats cp
[01:55] <gnomefreak> h0ndaracer2: copy
[01:55] <LjL> cmweb: a restart of apache, perhaps. a restart of the system, i doubt it
[01:55] <kuto> kitchie: if so how do i change inputrc to make my delete key to delete characters in bash terminal and not type ~
[01:56] <kuto> do you know kitche
[01:56] <h0ndaracer2> it kepts sayign access denied tho
[01:56] <mzanfardino> jrib: yes!  Bah!  Ok, now, how do I fix this (get rid of "personal" firefox and point firefox to the correct path (/usr/lib/firefox/firefox)
[01:56] <jrib> h0ndaracer2: join #ubuntu-classroom and I'll walk you through it
[01:56] <Fozzie> SilentDis - glxinfo reports "Direct Rendering: Yes" now, and nothing else.  Is this right?
[01:56] <jrib> mzanfardino: dpkg-divert --list '*firefox*'   turn anything up?
[01:56] <esaym> aticonfig --resolution=Screen1,1400x1050 gives:
[01:56] <h0ndaracer2> same server
[01:56] <esaym> Error: Section # expected
[01:56] <esaym> Segmentation fault
[01:56] <jrib> h0ndaracer2: yep
[01:56] <kuto> kitche still there?
[01:56] <h0ndaracer2> ok
[01:57] <cmweb> "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName" which I'm using local host it shouldn't matter should it?
[01:57] <ubun> i'm surprised nautilus doesn't tell you simple memory things like when you're replacing a file how large the file you are replacing is vs the old one and the trash can to show how much you're about to delete. would be easy to code in
[01:57] <h0ndaracer2> im in it
[01:57] <kitche> kuto: you can do info bash and see since it should be in the info page for bash
[01:57] <mzanfardino> jrib: mark@mark-desktop:~$ dpkg-divert --list '*firefox*'
[01:57] <LjL> cmweb: i think it's just a warning that should really affect things right now
[01:57] <mzanfardino> local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu
[01:57] <mzanfardino> local diversion of /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox to /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox.ubuntu
[01:57] <SilentDis> fozzie:  yep :)
[01:58] <aeromix> hi..could you please help me? I'm trying to run firestarter as a firewall..but it every time starts with this error: Failed to start the firewall An unknown error occured Please check your network device settings and make sure your internet connection is active
[01:58] <mzanfardino> jrib: so, would I just relink /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/lib/firefox/firefox?  then rm -r /opt/firefox?
[01:58] <Fozzie> silentdis, Interesting.  I guess i was expecting a fanfare and firework display :)
[01:58] <cmweb> ljl, i made a file called phpinfo.php with the phpinfo script it works but the others dont, maby permissions?
[01:58] <jrib> mzanfardino: follow the removal instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion  (you only need to restore symbolic links, don't worry about profile).  And yes you can delete /opt/firefox
[01:58] <SilentDis> fozzie:  if you wanna check your framerates, you can do a quick glxgears -printfps
[01:58] <aeromix> !firestarter
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:59] <SilentDis> fozzie:  you should expect numbers in the 1000s
[01:59] <jrib> mzanfardino: direct link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#head-51054869b8a40ea50859b0163c806e76f882499c
[01:59] <cmweb> ljl, nope nvm their all 777
[01:59] <The_Hunter> sudo aptitude install linux-generic
[02:00] <The_Hunter> The following packages have been automatically kept back:
[02:00] <The_Hunter>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic
[02:00] <The_Hunter>   linux-restricted-modules-common
[02:00] <n2diy> Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?
[02:00] <SilentDis> fozzie:  as for the fireworks display, that would be beryl's job ;)
[02:00] <The_Hunter> How can I fix that?
[02:00] <isede> hive, i am getting this message from adept "dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0.0", what do i do wrong?
[02:00] <LjL> cmweb: what happens anyway when you try to access the pages?
[02:00] <Fozzie> SilentDis, :) yeah, i've heard good things about Beryl.  As for the fps, i'm getting low 800's
[02:00] <cmweb> ljl, it wants me to download the file as a .PHTML same as before
[02:01] <SilentDis> fozzie:  hmm...  it's running though?
[02:01] <LjL> cmweb: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | grep php
[02:01] <SilentDis> fozzie:  what vid card again?  how much ram on it?
[02:01] <Fozzie> silentdis, yes, lovely tri colored gears
[02:01] <LjL> cmweb: does that mention *both* php.conf and php.load?
[02:01] <mzanfardino> jrib: ok, one more try. brb
[02:01] <ago> SilentDis, to be honest I do not remember it was an old HD
[02:01] <Drako60> http://pastebin.ca/280562  http://pastebin.ca/280571   http://pastebin.ca/280573   <-- would anyone care to look at that and help me out a bit
[02:01] <cmweb> ljl,  yes both of php5
[02:01] <Fozzie> silent radeon 900m, not sure on memory, but i'm guessing its not much
[02:02] <SilentDis> ago:  i'd personally take a look with gparted (sudo apt-get install gparted), and see what the drive has.  I'm a rather visual person though ;)
[02:02] <jrib> cmweb: I *think* it won't be setup to use php with .phtml files, see if it works if you rename it to .php.  Or is it already named that?
[02:02] <mzanfardino> jrib: you sir (madam?) are a genius!  Thank you!!!
[02:02] <LjL> cmweb: libapache2-mod-php5 is installed? (apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-php5)
[02:03] <LjL> mzanfardino: it's a bot. colors don't lie
[02:03] <cmweb> ljl:
[02:03] <DARKGuy> hey, quick question: after installing samba, what was the command to make smbmount useable by all users or something like that?
[02:03] <cmweb> libapache2-mod-php5:
[02:03] <cmweb>   Installed: 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
[02:03] <cmweb>   Candidate: 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4
[02:03] <aeromix> anyone here who would help me with firestarter???
[02:03] <kitche> aeromix: what wrong with firestarter?
[02:03] <cmweb> ljl, in simple terms yes
[02:03] <kuto> how do i clear my terminal so it clears everything... so that my terminal looks like a new terminal without any previous inputs?
[02:03] <jrib> !anyone | aeromix
[02:03] <SilentDis> DARKGuy:  you can specify a mount point under /etc/fstab, then all users can mount it... if that's what you're referring to
[02:03] <ubotu> aeromix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:03] <kitche> kuto: reset
[02:03] <LjL> cmweb: what about the phtml thing?
[02:04] <kuto> kitche: thanks
[02:04] <aeromix> kitche: every time I start it, I get "unknown error" bla bla...
[02:04] <cmweb> its still doing it, haunting me
[02:04] <DARKGuy> SilentDis: Uh, nope, and I couldn't understand that either x_x I mean it was something with chown or set the userID or something like that oO
[02:04] <cmweb> ljl, its still doing it, haunting me
[02:04] <aeromix> Failed to start the firewall. An unknown error occured...
[02:04] <kuto> kitche: the info bash doesnt have stuff that talks about how to change inputrc to make delete key to delete characters in my terminal
[02:04] <carutsu> hello, here's the story i downloaded ubuntu (it's in spanish), then i downloaded Kubuntu (KDE i mean) but it's in english, is there a way to change it? i haven't found it
[02:04] <LjL> cmweb: no, i mean, what jrib asked
[02:04] <aeromix> Please check your network device settings...etc
[02:04] <drkm> how do I uncompress a .bz2 in terminal?
[02:04] <SilentDis> DARKGuy:  when I want users to be able to mount partitions, i drop a single line into the /etc/fstab, and they can mount/unmount it at will.
[02:04] <aeromix> kitche: any clue?
[02:05] <LjL> Ubotu, tell drkm about bz2 | drkm, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:05] <jrib> drkm: bunzip2 file.bz2
[02:05] <DARKGuy> SilentDis: but this is samba, you know, network filesystems :/
[02:05] <kitche> aeromix: not really the onyl thing I am thinking of is that iptables is not started
[02:05] <cmweb> my bad jrib sorry, yes they are already .php
[02:05] <SilentDis> DARKGuy:  you can do it with samba filesystems, once samba is installed :)
[02:05] <jrib> cmweb: did you restart apache?
[02:05] <drkm> LjL, jrib thanks
[02:05] <aeromix> kitche: how do I start it?
[02:05] <DARKGuy> SilentDis: Oh cool, didn't know that, yay for flexibility :D
[02:05] <cmweb> yes twice now
[02:05] <cmweb> ljl, yes twice now
[02:06] <con-man> does anyone know why if Im not running xgl, my movies look like film negatives from cameras
[02:06] <DARKGuy> SilentDis: thanks for the tip :P
[02:06] <SilentDis> DARKGuy:  do you want it 'always' mounted, or a choice by the user?
[02:06] <Fozzie> SilentDis, i had bad info, it is ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M IGP, 32mb ddr
[02:06] <GaiaX11> In windows we have scanip to get ip and mac address from any other computer. Is there a similar program in Ubuntu?
[02:06] <jrib> cmweb: do you have apache installed as well as apache2?
[02:06] <kitche> aeromix: well it should autostart when ubuntu is started
[02:06] <Fozzie> silentdis, according to hp site
[02:06] <aeromix> GaiaX11: nmap x.x.x.0-X
[02:06] <SilentDis> fozzie:  yikes.  then, yes, i'm surpprised you're pulling 800fps out of glxgears lol
[02:06] <cmweb> jrib, no i only did apache 2 *this time*
[02:06] <con-man> anyone?
[02:06] <un_operateur1> gaia, arp maybe
[02:07] <carutsu> anyone who knows?
[02:07] <DARKGuy> SilentDis: as a choice would be good, I'm using fluxbox and LinNeighborhood, I just don't want to run into problems when I try to mount a shared folder in an XP machine with stuff saying "smbmount must be setuid root" and stuff like that
[02:07] <cmweb> jrib, it wouldent matter any way i only loaded a apache 2 command
[02:07] <Fozzie> SilentDis Surprised good? or Surprised bad? :)
[02:07] <aeromix> kitche: the problem is IT DOESN'T ! apparently
[02:07] <flasher222> how can i convert a wav file to mp3?
[02:07] <jrib> cmweb: the servers start on their own
[02:07] <LjL> !lame | flasher222
[02:07] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[02:07] <kenzuke> Anyone using Beryl?
[02:07] <con-man> does anyone know why if Im not running xgl, my movies look like film negatives from cameras
[02:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell kenzuke about beryl | kenzuke, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:07] <SilentDis> DARKGuy:  what command do you do, right now, to mount that smb share?
[02:07] <cmweb> jrib, dont worry i only did apache 2
[02:07] <flasher222> LjL: can mplayer convert a wav file to mp3?
[02:08] <DARKGuy> SilentDis: none, I use LinNeighborhood, the samba commandline stuff confuses me to no end
[02:08] <SilentDis> fozzie:  I'm surprized it's pushing 800fps.  I would expect lower.  hate to say it, but ATI is hell on wheels under windows, and just poor under linux :(
[02:08] <LjL> flasher222: probably, it can convert just about anything... but lame (or soundkonverter) is probably easier
[02:08] <jrib> cmweb: clear your browser cache? or try a different one
[02:08] <carutsu> HELLO!?
[02:08] <aeromix> there is too many people:(
[02:08] <SilentDis> !hello | carutsu
[02:08] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[02:08] <carutsu> thanks Silent
[02:08] <LjL> drkm: KDE, yes
[02:08] <carutsu> hello, here's the story i downloaded ubuntu (it's in spanish), then i downloaded Kubuntu (KDE i mean) but it's in english, is there a way to change it? i haven't found it
[02:08] <GaiaX11> aeromix: Does nmap get mac address also? From any other computer for example a neighbour PC using an external aerial?
[02:08] <con-man> anyone?
[02:08] <Fozzie> SilentDis, Hopefully fglrx will help, right?
[02:09] <Capslock118> I deleted everything under my mounted ext3 folder to see if it would actually delete the stuff, the folders disappeared but the space is still take, This is how I gave myself permissions, does this mean i can read AND write? sudo chown -R marie:marie /storage
[02:09] <Capslock118> sudo chmod -R 755 /storage
[02:09] <LjL> carutsu: there should be K / System / Language Support, not sure it works extremely well though
[02:09] <SilentDis> fozzie:  i think you're at about the limit that linux can push that card (IE, it's all setup right)
[02:09] <drkm> LjL: why KDE over Gnome?
[02:09] <cmweb> jrin, ljl | You guys are geniuses the browser was the problem it works now      Medal of honor to you both
[02:09] <carutsu> let me see, thank you LjL
[02:09] <cmweb> jrib*
[02:09] <carutsu> i prefer KDE
[02:09] <mzanfardino> !samba | carutsu
[02:09] <pr0-j03> drkm: why not :P
[02:09] <ubotu> carutsu: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:09] <carutsu> is just so customizable
[02:09] <SilentDis> DARKGuy:  you'll have to get your hands a bit dirty to get that mount point in there, i'm sorry to say.
[02:09] <flasher222> LjL:  thanks!
[02:10] <drkm> pr0-j03: KDE looked a bit clunky to me last time I used it hehe
[02:10] <con-man> QQ
[02:10] <toM|vendettA> hi is there a way to get flash to detect my webcam?
[02:10] <mzanfardino> SWAT
[02:10] <mzanfardino> !swat
[02:10] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:10] <niu> need for help!
[02:10] <LjL> carutsu: otherwise,    sudo apt-get install  language-pack-kde-es-base  kde-i18n-es  language-pack-kde-es
[02:10] <SilentDis> DARKGuy:  one main thing I've learned about linux:  you set it up once through a lengthly setup process, and it works forever PERIOD.  hehe
[02:10] <LjL> cmweb: the browser? how?
[02:10] <carutsu> finally
[02:10] <Fozzie> SilentDis, What was that command you gave me earlier, to run through the video setup?
[02:10] <carutsu> i knew that
[02:10] <SilentDis> fozzie:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:11] <pr0-j03> Ok :D I am using it now.. I think i might go back to gnome myself. It is a bit clunky, and for some reason (this might not be KDE) i cant accsess my NFTS Partiton. APT-GET install ubuntu-desktop, HERE I COME :D
[02:11] <mzanfardino> LjL: Can I install KDE if I've already go GNOME installed?
[02:11] <un_operateur1> sure
[02:11] <pr0-j03> I think you can
[02:11] <LjL> drkm: programs i like better, more flexibility (at the expense of horribly crowd preferences windows), and more integration
[02:11] <carutsu> pr0-j03 you should mount it first
[02:11] <Fozzie> SilentDis i'll write it down this time before i log out.  Thanks for your help, it is deeply appreciated!!
[02:11] <LjL> Ubotu, tell mzanfardino about kde | mzanfardino, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:11] <n2diy> SilentDis, nothing works forever, what is your backup strategy?
[02:11] <pr0-j03> I tryed
[02:11] <un_operateur1> KDE and Gnome and XFCE and any other WM can co-exist on the same machine
[02:11] <SilentDis> fozzie:  any time :)
[02:12] <SilentDis> n2diy:  a 1TB raid array on scsi with 10k rpm server hard drives, currently.  rofl
[02:12] <pr0-j03> But it cant find it in /etc/somthingorother
[02:12] <Fozzie> quit
[02:12] <Fozzie> oops
[02:12] <wimpies> are there packages for 2.1 openoffice ?
[02:12] <carutsu> usually no
[02:12] <carutsu> they think are too buggy
[02:12] <wimpies> 2.1 has been released ...
[02:13] <carutsu> the latest develompent isn't there usually
[02:13] <carutsu> i know that
[02:13] <n2diy> SilentDis, roger that, I'm trying to get Mondo working, but the developers haven't returned my email, in 36 hours. I don't have the hardware to match your setup.
[02:13] <wimpies> and I have problems with some bugs
[02:13] <mzanfardino> LjL: thank you, but the link didn't answer the basic question: can I have both GNOME and KDE installed on the same system?
[02:13] <kitche> mzanfardino: yes
[02:13] <un_operateur1> mzanfardino, yes
[02:13] <pr0-j03> Yes, i think you can.
[02:13] <pr0-j03> Lol.
[02:13] <mzanfardino> thank you all!
[02:13] <carutsu> totally YES
[02:13] <LjL> mzanfardino: "to install from Ubuntu"... what does that suggest you? ;)
[02:13] <pr0-j03> k :D
[02:13] <SilentDis> n2diy: only reason I have something like that is because I came upon a true rare find on eBay.  some guy was selling drives, he had no idea what they were, and I swooped :)
[02:13] <carutsu> actually i have booth right now
[02:14] <niu> i can't use the uspalsh in my box.
[02:14] <mzanfardino> bah... it suggests to me that it might replace GNOME... but that's why I asked
[02:14] <SilentDis> n2diy:  i've had it for nearly 4 years now.  it's saved my butt numerous times to have an endless 'backup point' attached to my BSD server :)
[02:14] <LjL> mzanfardino: there are only two downsides that i can think of: 1) your Gnome menus get crowded by KDE applications, and your KDE menus likewise  2) if you later decide to uninstall either Gnome or KDE, it's not necessarily very easy
[02:14] <carutsu> exactly
[02:14] <h0ndaracer2> how do i navigate to the home folder then to the exaples folder
[02:14] <n2diy> SilentDis, ok, good for you. Then what was your backup strategy before that?
[02:14] <LjL> mzanfardino: if you install KDE using aptitude instead of apt-get, the latter most probably becomes easier.
[02:14] <carutsu> actually i still can't uninstall GNOME
[02:15] <pr0-j03> Gah.  i have just started downloading Gnome GUI
[02:15] <SilentDis> n2diy:  it was mostly based upon prayer and sacred incantations.
[02:15] <carutsu> yea but uninstal GNOME is hard
[02:15] <carutsu> couse it was ubuntu first
[02:15] <LjL> carutsu: indeed, you can't. if you uninstall libgnome2.0-0, though, you'll have gotten rid of most of it
[02:15] <Smitty> hello, I'm wondering if anyone can give me a diagnosis to some of my mp3's popping.  Is it the files?
[02:15] <n2diy> SilentDis, I recently discovered that isn't very effective. :/
[02:15] <slicky_> hi.. what is a "kicker"?     "What I do to solve this, is minimize Torrent to kicker, and then to maximize it again"
[02:15] <drkm> LjL: how would I go about installing KDE to give it a go?
[02:15] <SilentDis> n2diy:  no, no it isn't rofl
[02:16] <LjL> Ubotu, tell drkm about kde | drkm, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:16] <kuto> how come /etc/profile in ubuntu is so short?
[02:16] <mzanfardino> LjL: thank you.  I use Kate for javascript editing, and thought that if I installed KDE it might run more cleanly.
[02:16] <SilentDis> n2diy:  it helps to get the BEST witch doctor in the area though ;)
[02:16] <Smitty> mp3's popping, anyone?
[02:16] <carutsu> mm.. i see
[02:16] <pr0-j03> DRKM
[02:16] <LjL> mzanfardino: well, if you run KDE and then (besides Kate) mostly run GNOME programs on it, it'll be just as unclean or worse ;)
[02:16] <biotrox> !drkm
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drkm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <carutsu> however after that usually is good to have the libreries isnt it?
[02:16] <n2diy> SilentDis, so until I can get Mondo working, what should I be backing up besides /home?
[02:16] <drkm> pr0:?
[02:16] <pr0-j03> terminal: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <DARKGuy> Gah, network messed up
[02:17] <slicky_> ubotu: kicker
[02:17] <kuto> where does ubuntu store the variable PATH?
[02:17] <pr0-j03> drkm: see above :D
[02:17] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[02:17] <mzanfardino> LjL: ok, any suggestions for a new GUI editor for languages like javascript that run will in GNOME?
[02:17] <slicky_> !ubotu: kicker
[02:17] <carutsu> see ya later
[02:17] <LjL> carutsu: i don't have the gnome libraries installed. i see no reason to take up hundreds of megs of disk, when i'm not using gnome applications :)
[02:17] <LjL> blah
[02:17] <SilentDis> n2diy:  if you've got /home backed up, that's a darn good start.  means you'll loose your os, and not much else.  under debian, it doesn't hurt to backup your package archives and some basic settings files too
[02:17] <jrib> kuto: gets set in /etc/environment I believe
[02:17] <LjL> mzanfardino: i use KDE myself, so not really...
[02:17] <pr0-j03> I dont know if it will run in Gnome, but i am using Kate right now, its good.
[02:18] <kuto> cool thanks
[02:18] <un_operateur1> $PATH is usually defined in your shell's rcfile
[02:18] <pr0-j03> im tired.
[02:18] <mzanfardino> LjL: ok. I guess I will have to build a KDE vm and see if I like it any better (have no real preference, just used GNOME and not KDE).
[02:18] <pr0-j03> ^^
[02:19] <pr0-j03> mzanfardino: I think that you can install KDE, and then change the GUI with somthing called Session Manager?
[02:19] <pr0-j03> Im not sure though.
[02:19] <LjL> mzanfardino: actually, if you use aptitude to install it, i think you'll be able to completely remove it and be back to your GNOME desktop as you left it (perhaps making a new user for KDE might be best, if you really are concerned)
[02:19] <n2diy> SilentDis, ok roger the .deb archives, any clue what settings files to backup?
[02:19] <SilentDis> ok, i just herd David Bowie / Bing Crosby sing a duet of "Peace on Earth / Little Drummer Boy"  that was really cool :)
[02:19] <LjL> mzanfardino: don't take my word on it, but i've done this before
[02:19] <LjL> pr0-j03: you just need to click on the Sessions (or Options, in GDM) button in the display manager and select your session
[02:19] <Drako60> http://pastebin.ca/280562  http://pastebin.ca/280571   http://pastebin.ca/280573   <-- would anyone care to look at that and help me out a bit
[02:20] <SilentDis> n2diy:  depends on how much you're willing to restore later.  I'd say the xorg.conf can die, but maybe your /etc/fstab would be good... and in your /home, make sure you grab all .file config info.
[02:20] <mzanfardino> LjL: thanks again
[02:20] <mzanfardino> later
[02:20] <n2diy> SilentDis, David Bowie, and Bing Crosby!? And I'm asking you for advice!!!??? :)
[02:20] <SilentDis> n2diy:  rofl
[02:20] <n2diy> SilentDis, roger on the files.
[02:20] <kuto> jrib: what file does env read?
[02:20] <nothlit> !sbackup | n2diy
[02:20] <ubotu> n2diy: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[02:20] <Smitty> how do you diagnose mp3's that click or pop
[02:21] <kuto> when you you export how do you unexport
[02:21] <nothlit> n2diy, but it isn't like mondo from bare metal
[02:21] <kuto> can you unset easily
[02:21] <kuto> pls help
[02:21] <SilentDis> n2diy:  depends, as I said, on what exactly you're willing to restore later, assuming the worst.
[02:21] <nothlit> LjL, apt-get remove autoremove?
[02:21] <LjL> nothlit: actually, it's just "apt-get autoremove"
[02:21] <nothlit> LjL, oh, i just looked at psychocats.net
[02:21] <LjL> nothlit: but i didn't have very exceptional experiences with that - while aptitude always worked nicely
[02:22] <nothlit> LjL, oh it doesn't always work?
[02:22] <SilentDis> n2diy:  I usually keep text files of everything I've configured sitting around (i installed this that and the other thing, they do this that the other, are attached to the package <packagename>, etc) in my /home folder
[02:22] <LjL> nothlit: (specifically, i just installed GNOME to try something the other day, and autoremove didn't remove even half of it)
[02:22] <n2diy> SilentDis, I was using sbackup, and it was a disaster, the restore program doesn't have a progress indicator, so you don't know when it is finished.
[02:22] <nothlit> LjL, wow
[02:23] <LjL> nothlit: apparently not - it probably does some thinking of its own in order to decide which packages you want and which you don't... but i'd rather just have aptitude removing *all* packages that i haven't installed explicitly
[02:23] <ady> yo
[02:23] <LjL> or perhaps it just still has some bugs
[02:23] <n2diy> I just did a bare metal restore, with the install cd, and what I manged to get off sbackup.
[02:23] <SilentDis> n2diy:  when I reinstall, i usually just copy over my .debs, my /home folder files, and then have a lengthly sudo apt-get install line that i've setup.
[02:23] <nothlit> n2diy, its a tar, you can do it manually
[02:24] <LjL> !cloning | SilentDis
[02:24] <ady> is anyone in here using wine on ubuntu
[02:24] <ubotu> SilentDis: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[02:24] <jrib> !anyone | ady
[02:24] <ubotu> ady: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:24] <LjL> !ask | ady
[02:24] <ubotu> ady: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:24] <LjL> @lart jrib
[02:24] <LjL> hey, it's enabled?!
[02:24] <nothlit> LjL, ahh, i like aptitude better anyways
[02:24] <SilentDis> ljl:  oh cool, was wondering how to do that in an easier way.  I've been just copying them around lol
[02:24] <SilentDis> ljl:  thanks :D
[02:24] <jrib> LjL: great... now everyone knows :P
[02:24] <gyaresu> Hey. I've got two laptops now that need to have 'kdm' restarted because it just drops to a terminal. Any ideas?
[02:24] <ady> are you all mostly linux people?
[02:25] <DARKGuy> Hm, I installed Ubuntu using the alternate CD, plain CLI interface installed and installed Xorg, Fluxbox and such. I just installed Kate and Konsole (since it was needed by Kate's terminal window) but then it replaced my Bash terminal in Fluxbox. Is there a way to change the default terminal app somewhere?
[02:25] <SilentDis> LjL: oh god... they didn't enable all of them, did they?
[02:25] <LjL> ady: is that a trick question?
[02:25] <un_operateur1> aptitude has a nasty habit of removing packages that are needed by other 3rd party packages compiled from source, etc
[02:25] <SilentDis> @ferengi
[02:25] <gyaresu> ady: You mean smart?
[02:25] <drkm> if I go ahead and install KDE via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.. will it switch over from Gnome on my next restart or do I need to edit some for of config?
[02:25] <SilentDis> LjL: that answers that at least lol
[02:25] <drkm> for = sort*
[02:25] <n2diy> SilentDis, what is a tar I can do manually? Now I use Nautilus's archive feature.
[02:26] <SilentDis> n2diy:  you're looking to tar what?
[02:26] <gyaresu> Anyone else having KDM crash on startup?
[02:26] <un_operateur1> drkm, you'll need to chose KDE at logon
[02:26] <DARKGuy> drkm: you'll have to choose your session (to be KDE) when you restart and are back on GDM
[02:26] <Drako60> well obviously no one wants to even tell me they don't have a clue, let alone help. this officially sucks
[02:26] <drkm> ok thanks
[02:26] <nothlit> !X | gyaresu
[02:26] <ubotu> gyaresu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:26] <n2diy> SilentDis, I'm not looking to tar anything, you brought that up.(?)
[02:27] <DARKGuy> Drako60: If you don't ask, don't expect an answer :/ I haven't seen a question by you so...
[02:27] <cmweb> can i just place a command instide a script and have it work?
[02:27] <SilentDis> Drako60: i'm here, just missed your question.  ask again :)
[02:27] <gyaresu> nothlit: Thanks but this is specific and happening on two different laptops now.
[02:27] <nothlit> dkrm, to choose which display/logon manager you want you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm)
[02:27] <ady> LjL i have recently turned away from M$ window$
[02:27] <cmweb> such as /usr/local/bin/noip2
[02:27] <un_operateur1> cmweb, sure -- as long as the script is run properly
[02:27] <Drako60> http://pastebin.ca/280562  http://pastebin.ca/280571   http://pastebin.ca/280573   <-- would anyone care to look at that and help me out a bit
[02:27] <SilentDis> n2diy:  i didn't lol
[02:27] <nothlit> gyaresu, you want something other than restarting kdm?
[02:27] <Drako60> DARKGuy, i've asked three times so far
[02:27] <ozoneco> is there a sudo level file manager with a GUI?
[02:27] <DARKGuy> Drako60: ah, my bad then oO
[02:27] <LjL> ady: well, this is the support channel for Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, so yeah, i suppose we mostly do use Linux in here
[02:27] <un_operateur1> sudoing a GUI is bad practise
[02:28] <ady> haha
[02:28] <SilentDis> Drako60:  what's the gist of your problem?  I've got 43 windows up right now, and can't hit the pastebin.
[02:28] <gyaresu> nothlit: I've got no crash logs. It restarts just fine. It just doesn't want to start up from boot.
[02:28] <un_operateur1> s/practise/practice/
[02:28] <LjL> ozoneco: what's wrong with just doing Alt+F2 and typing "gksudo nautilus"?
[02:28] <LjL> well, right, there's a few things wrong with that, but still
[02:28] <ozoneco> LjL: nothing, prolly the answer i was looking for, ty
[02:29] <un_operateur1> you almost never need to run nautilus (or anything else GUI for that matter) as root
[02:29] <nothlit> gyaresu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:29] <blanky> hey guys, I was downloading eclipse-sdk through sudo apt-get install, but it was a 100 something MB download, I stopped it with CTRL+C because I don't wnat to download it right now, is there a way to remove the stuff it downloaded?
[02:29] <Drako60> SilentDis, kernel crashing, X randomly crashing, nv_sata hangs without passing grub noapci noapic, gcc-4.1 segfaults when trying to compile kernel 2.6.19, shall i go on? oh yeah and ioctl errors
[02:29] <DARKGuy> Drako60: what's the problem specifically? :/
[02:29] <DARKGuy> Ah
[02:29] <un_operateur1> drak -- apt-get install -f
[02:29] <LjL> ozoneco: just keep in mind that to run GUI programs as root you should use "gksudo" rather than "sudo" - and also as un_operateur1 said, you should try to avoid that anyway
[02:29] <blanky> anyone
[02:29] <n2diy> SilentDis, you did, at 20:23, but it doesn't matter. I'm archiving with Nautilus, and have a test box setup now to test it on.
[02:29] <nothlit> gyaresu, otherwise, you can check if its a service with rcconf (command line tool) or something like bum, i don't know the kde equivalent
[02:29] <DARKGuy> oO holy hell
[02:29] <SilentDis> Drako60:  i was just having virtually the same issues... my problem is a psu failing.
[02:29] <gyaresu> nothlit: Yeah. I havn't done that yet. Silly me. Thanks.
[02:29] <ozoneco> ok, appreciated
[02:29] <blanky> okay just ignore me, guys :'(
[02:30] <blanky> LjL: you?
[02:30] <LjL> blanky: sudo apt-get clean
[02:30] <ady> blanky, i would help ya but i'm also a new
[02:30] <blanky> LjL: *thumbs up*
[02:30] <blanky> ady: thanks anyways :D
[02:30] <Drako60> SilentDis, PSU is fine to my knowledge, this just started happening since i installed the last kernel security update
[02:30] <SilentDis> blanky:  it'll store the partial files in a partial area until you finish the install
[02:30] <SilentDis> blanky:  they won't affect your machine at all.
[02:30] <blanky> SilenceGold: oohh...
[02:31] <blanky> wow, I already did sudo apt-get clean though :'(
[02:31] <blanky> so i guess they're gone?
[02:31] <cmweb> Fatal error:  Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/admin/install2.php on line 69 occures when running a script, does ubuntu carry the function?
[02:31] <gyaresu> nothlit: ls /etc/rc5.d/
[02:31] <SilentDis> blanky:  yes, clean will kill the debs
[02:31] <un_operateur1> blanky, you might need this instead  -- apt-get install -f
[02:31] <blanky> oh well, thanks anyways for the info SilenceGold
[02:31] <LjL> cmweb: only if you install the mysql php module
[02:31] <un_operateur1> or better aptitude install -f
[02:31] <computermc> I am installing mysql-administrator by source, and it says it depends on glib. My problem is that I can't find it in the package manger. Any suggestions?
[02:31] <blanky> thanks un_operateur1
[02:31] <CalJohn> I'm using urxvt (rxvt-unicode) and it sets it's font in ~/.Xdefaults .  However, no font setting I ever use ever works correctly - it sticks with its own font - a nasty one.  my current font line is "#URxvt*font:            xft:Bitstream Vera Sans mono:size=16"  This works fine on another machine (gentoo).  What's the problem?
[02:31] <LjL> cmweb: php5-mysql
[02:32] <cmweb> ljl, i apperantly didnt do a full lamp
[02:32] <LjL> cmweb: guess so
[02:32] <jrib> computermc: mysql-admin is in the universe repository
[02:32] <Drako60> DARKGuy, unfortantly i wasn't able to grab the ioctl errors, as the system froze and it wasn't logged
[02:32] <eyalw> hi, cam driver help, logitech cam
[02:32] <cmweb> ljl, i have it
[02:32] <SilentDis> drako60:  if you're getting random crashes that seem to be kinda all over the place, I always suspect heat/psu first.  just me and how I work (from experience).  other than that, i'm not sure what could be causing such things.
[02:32] <nothlit> gyaresu, yes? what about run level 5?
[02:33] <Starcraftmazter_> hi, for some reason, as of today, when I start gaim, it exits 1-2 seconds after it finishes signing on
[02:33] <eyalw> i tried it with aMSN, it recognized a device named logitech quickCam and a channel named webcam, but the picture is gray
[02:33] <antjmon> sorry to cut in guys, can anyone tell me or point me in the direction of allowing an already configured user to use mythtv?  it is already configured correctly under user: mythtv
[02:33] <DARKGuy> Drako60: x_x SilentDis is right though, sometimes hardware issues can give you a real hard time in software (I've had problems like that happening under Windoze, and it was just a high temp inside the case :/ )
[02:33] <jrib> CalJohn: does it work after you do 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults' ?
[02:33] <n2diy> computermc, did you try synaptic?
[02:33] <cmweb> ljl, php5-mysql is already the newest version.
[02:33] <gyaresu> nothlit: just mentioned it for finding out what services start at that runlevel. platform agnostic :)
[02:34] <computermc> n2diy: I found it in synaptic and I'm trying to install it, hold on just a sec
[02:34] <eyalw> hi, cam driver help, logitech cam
[02:34] <ady> i had to reinstall this opperating system 5 times to get it to work right
[02:34] <jrib> CalJohn: also, what is the # for?  I've never used that
[02:34] <un_operateur1> Starcraftmazter_, start gaim from a command line -- perhaps you'll get useful error messages spat out there
[02:34] <un_operateur1> gaim &
[02:34] <Starcraftmazter_> good idea, thanks
[02:34] <SilentDis> redneck heat issue solution:  case side off, box fan in :D
[02:34] <Drako60> DARKGuy, yes i've had that problem on the 3.3 rail before, but that doesn't explain why sata_nv hangs at boot even when the system was off for over 2 hours
[02:35] <admin_> Hello
[02:35] <Drako60> hehe SilentDis i could pull the side off wouldn't bother me
[02:35] <nothlit> gyaresu, yeah but tools are nice for disabling :)
[02:35] <nothlit> gyaresu, but not necessarily removing
[02:35] <DARKGuy> Drako60: heh, in that I wouldn't have a clue since I've never had experience with SATA stuff :/
[02:35] <CalJohn> jrib: no, that still doesn't work.  the "#" was a typo (i was testing different fonts by commenting them out).
[02:35] <SilentDis> i shall return in a bit.  got some stuff to do around the house
[02:35] <computermc> n2diy: that worked thanks
[02:35] <jrib> CalJohn: comments use a ! in those files
[02:36] <nothlit> un_operateur1, theres a ncurses gaim now
[02:36] <Starcraftmazter_> (gaim:11479): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[02:36] <Starcraftmazter_> ** (gaim:11479): WARNING **: cannot open display: unset
[02:36] <CalJohn> jrib: heh, i know, just realised that :p
[02:36] <ozoneco> how do i put /var/www back to the defaults for the folder and its contents?
[02:36] <n2diy> computermc, nada, does mc stand for motorcycle club?
[02:36] <nothlit> export DISPLAY=:0
[02:36] <un_operateur1> nothlit, you mean naim??
[02:36] <ozoneco> for the rights
[02:36] <LjL> cmweb: what about libapache2-mod-auth-mysql  ?
[02:36] <BillyBober09> How do i install A driver on ubuntu
[02:36] <nothlit> un_operateur1, dunno, its like a plugin or something, i saw it on the blog
[02:36] <computermc> they're my initials
[02:37] <jrib> CalJohn: maybe that was the problem?
[02:37] <blanky> Starcraftmazter_: you were trying to run vnc?
[02:37] <un_operateur1> nothlit, what fun would that be eh? :)
[02:37] <Starcraftmazter_> I don
[02:37] <Starcraftmazter_> I don't think so *
[02:37] <blanky> Starcraftmazter_: if it still happens, try logging out and logging back in
[02:37] <whyameye> BillyBober09: what driver do you want to install? Have you just tried the device to see if it works out of the box?
[02:37] <Starcraftmazter_> ok
[02:37] <n2diy> BilyBober09, you don't they are call modules, what are you trying to get to work?
[02:37] <computermc> n2diy: they're my initials
[02:37] <blanky> Starcraftmazter_: FIRST, though, do sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:37] <CalJohn> jrib: apparantly not.  :(
[02:37] <Starcraftmazter_> whats irssi
[02:37] <BillyBober09> its a neomagic graphics card
[02:37] <blanky> just in case you can't get into gnome/kde/whatever, if you can't, type irssi for irc
[02:37] <Drako60> DARKGuy, also doesn't really explain why gcc would be segfaulting
[02:37] <n2diy> computermc, roger that.
[02:37] <blanky> it's a command line irc client
[02:38] <LjL> !usernames | BillyBober09
[02:38] <ubotu> BillyBober09: Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[02:38] <Starcraftmazter_> irssi is already the newest version.
[02:38] <whyameye> BillyBober09: well...does it work?
[02:38] <BillyBober09>  Tab not sure what u mean
[02:38] <blanky> Starcraftmazter_: okay, try logging out and bakc in then
[02:38] <Starcraftmazter_> ok
[02:38] <blanky> Starcraftmazter_: i suggest a complete restart if you dont mind
[02:38] <DARKGuy> Drako60: No idea either, have you tried using another kernel version? blind guess but who knows oO
[02:38] <whyameye> BillyBober09: why do you think you need to install a driver for this neomagic?
[02:38] <shwag> so why would phpmyadmin be using an old configuration if I completely deleted the old configuration already?
[02:39] <BillyBober09> whyameye: liekt his
[02:39] <n2diy> ubotu, what is this !tab stuff? I've been typing prefixes manually?
[02:39] <Drako60> DARKGuy, no but that was one of my guesses too
[02:39] <jrib> CalJohn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37276/ is mine and it seems to work, can you try that file?
[02:39] <LjL> !tab | n2diy, BillyBober09
[02:39] <ubotu> n2diy, BillyBober09: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:39] <DARKGuy> Drako60: It might be worth a shot then :P
[02:40] <CalJohn> jrib: site seems to be down
[02:40] <Drako60> hrm and no way to test my PSU
[02:40] <BillyBober09> im still confused, do u mean the tab button
[02:40] <CalJohn> jrib: ignore last message
[02:41] <LjL> BillyBober09: just try typing "billy" and the the TAB key on your keyboard
[02:41] <BillyBober09> BillyBober09,
[02:41] <n2diy> ubotu, not working for me, but I'm new to irc, where should I go to learn this stuff?
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not working for me, but I'm new to irc, where should I go to learn this stuff? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <BillyBober09> oh ok
[02:41] <BillyBober09> so`i type the name and then tab and then message right
[02:41] <un_operateur1> n2diy, ubotu is a bot not a human eh :)
[02:41] <un_operateur1> n2diy, what are you trying to learn about?
[02:42] <j0rg3> Hello, all.
[02:42] <un_operateur1> hey j0rg3
[02:42] <BillyBober09> ubun
[02:42] <j0rg3> How are you, un_op?
[02:42] <CalJohn> jrib: still no difference
[02:43] <jrib> CalJohn: weird, I change font size and it doens't seem to affect it.  The other stuff seems to work though (I changed the height to 45 rows)
[02:43] <un_operateur1> j0rg3, good good :)
[02:43] <un_operateur1> you?
[02:43] <Dr34mC0d3r> when i type date I get Fri Dec 15 18:41:15 MST 2006  I need to set it to CST. Anyone???? thanks
[02:43] <n2diy> ubotu is a bot heh!? Ok, I was getting to like him too. I trying to learn auto completion of user names. Tab isn't working for me.
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot heh!? Ok, I was getting to like him too. I trying to learn auto completion of user names. Tab isn't working for me. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <jrib> CalJohn: do other settings work for you?
[02:43] <Dr34mC0d3r> ubuntu 6.06
[02:44] <j0rg3> Very good.  I've just installed Xubuntu Edgy on the computer that I am about to give to my son and I am testing.
[02:44] <CalJohn> jrib: nope.  seems that no settings do.  i just tried swapping round the foreground/background settings, and no colour changes.  weird.
[02:44] <un_operateur1> n2diy, that depends on the program you use -- is this exclusive to aparticular program?
[02:44] <BillyBober09> whyameye, i my problem is that i cant get my screen resolution big its very small like 6 hundreed something x somehting
[02:44] <Krinkle> I installed fine, but I can't boot after restarting.
[02:44] <un_operateur1> cool j0rg3 I hope the upgrade went fine (fingers-crossed)
[02:44] <whyameye> BillyBober09: and you already tried system -> pref -> screen resolution, I take it?
[02:45] <Krinkle> it says "PCI: JMB36x enabling dual function on 0000:06:00.0" and when I google this I only get people who couldn't install in the first place
[02:45] <BillyBober09> whyameye, yep
[02:45] <n2diy> un_operateurl, I don't know, I'm running Xchat, and I don't do enough stuff on the command line to find it useful, but let me go check it out in a terminal.
[02:45] <j0rg3> Yeah.  This is my first Xubuntu install.  A little trouble getting past the onboard video.  Small stuff.  It is quite impressive.
[02:46] <Starcraftmazter> still does it eh
[02:46] <jrib> CalJohn: what if you specify it with a switch to urxvt itself?
[02:46] <whyameye> BillyBober09: try on the command line: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and go through the menus and add the resolutions you want.
[02:46] <j0rg3> un_op, I see that you are VERY busy.  I'll let you help the people who need it.  ;)
[02:46] <un_operateur1> j0rg3, not really -- just lurking mostly :)
[02:46] <BillyBober09> whyameye, thats what my teacher told me to do but i went through the whole thing and it wont work
[02:46] <Dr34mC0d3r> when i type date I get Fri Dec 15 18:41:15 MST 2006  I need to set it to CST. Anyone???? thanks - ubuntu 6.06
[02:47] <kuto> hi
[02:47] <kuto> how do i ssh in my localhost?
[02:47] <whyameye> BillyBober09: did you select the resolutions you want?
[02:47] <un_operateur1> Starcraftmazter, try this command in a terminal --  DISPLAY=:1 gaim &
[02:47] <jrib> kuto: have you install openssh-server?
[02:47] <n2diy> un_operateur1, it seems to work in terminal, now I'm going to try it here.
[02:47] <BillyBober09> whyameye, yes I selected like 5 of them
[02:47] <un_operateur1> oops
[02:47] <un_operateur1> DISPLAY=:0 gaim
[02:47] <j0rg3> un_up, it looks quite complicated to me.  :)
[02:47] <un_operateur1> sorry, mind the first mistake :)
[02:47] <Starcraftmazter> 5079
[02:47] <whyameye> BillyBober09: what did you choose when it asked you about configuring the screen. I think you choose "simple, medium, advanced."
[02:47] <kuto> jrib: i have the openssh-client installed will that work
[02:48] <jrib> kuto: well you need the server to connect to
[02:48] <un_operateur1> kuto, you need the openssh-server too
[02:48] <n2diy> un_operateur1: it works, but there is seems to be a critical number of characters needed? un didn't work, but un_ did.
[02:48] <nothlit> kuto, you don't ssh into your localhost, you already have access to it, ssh is for 'remote' computers
[02:48] <BillyBober09> whyameye, i have tried all three, I have been through the process many times
[02:48] <BillyBober09> why
[02:48] <CalJohn> jrib: yep, command line switches work.  "urxvt -tr -tint blue -sh 40" is a lot of fun.  I like blue.
[02:48] <Geoffrey2> lesse, my ubuntu laptop is essentially hung again...the desktop is up, but no applications will start
[02:48] <CalJohn> jrib: ;)
[02:48] <un_operateur1> yes n2diy .. because tab has to disambiguate between two or more people whose names begin with un
[02:48] <whyameye> BillyBober09: so you set the horizontal and vertical refresh rates to match your monitor...
[02:49] <BillyBober09> whyameye, my main concern was medium
[02:49] <n2diy> un_operateur1: roger that.
[02:49] <BillyBober09> whyameye, didnt know what to do there
[02:49] <whyameye> BillyBober09: I can't remember medium specifically. Did you choose a large size for your monitor?
[02:49] <kuto> jrib: where does ubuntu store hostname?
[02:49] <BillyBober09> whyameye, 1024 x something
[02:49] <un_operateur1> if tab doesnt respond at first -- its a sign -- press it twice quickly -- it suggests names for you
[02:50] <jrib> kuto: system > administration > networking  to change it
[02:50] <kuto> jrib: where does ubuntu store hostname localhost and the <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:50] <n2diy> Are there any tricks to installing a new kernel with dpkg, I should be aware of?
[02:50] <j0rg3> un_op: Maybe it is just the separate conversations going on.  I've not been on IRC in quite awhile.
[02:50] <whyameye> BillyBober09: that's a resolution, but maybe it is "simple" which asks you the size of your monitor in inches.
[02:50] <whyameye> BillyBober09: is this an old monitor i.e. not "plug and play?"
 Toshiba tecra 8000
[02:51] <Geoffrey2> I am finding when I leave the computer unattended for significant periods of time, I'll come back to find that nothing will start, and the normal shutdown procedure won't work....
[02:51] <Starcraftmazter> any other ideas?
[02:51] <wickedly_cool> wow 830 users and not one operator
[02:51] <un_operateur1> kuto -- /etc/hosts
[02:51] <BillyBober09> whyameye, i bought it used
[02:51] <jrib> kuto: the relevant files are /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts.  If you decide to edit these by hand for some reason, make sure they agree
[02:52] <Geoffrey2> won't work, as in, clicking on the red icon results in absolutely nothing happening at all
[02:52] <nothlit> wickedly_cool, there are, but they don't reveal themselves unless they need to do something
[02:52] <j0rg3> un_op: JAJA!  (I laugh in Spanish).   I googled for you and the first link has a solution to your problem: http://outlands.ca/linux/t8000.html
[02:52] <n2diy> wickedly_cool: you can talk ubotu, the bot.
[02:52] <Starcraftmazter> ah hey here's something, Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
[02:52] <Starcraftmazter> This is a bug in the software and has happened through
[02:52] <Starcraftmazter> no fault of your own.
[02:52] <DARKGuy> j0rg3: Jaja, I can laugh too, 'cause I'm spanish, ha! :P
[02:52] <wickedly_cool> oh i see... undercover
[02:52] <jrib> CalJohn: when in doubt head to bug tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/rxvt-unicode/+bug/65102
[02:52] <un_operateur1> Starcraftmazter, you could try a uninstall/reinstall .. it might help
[02:53] <Starcraftmazter> okey
[02:53] <dcordes> des
[02:53] <kuto> jrib: ok well in fedora your localhost is set to <IP_ADDRESS> already but you can specify your hostname by editing /etc/hostname or /etc/host now how do i edit my hostname?
[02:53] <un_operateur1> j0rg3, I wish i could do better :)
[02:53] <BillyBober09> whyameye, thanks i'll take A look. I tried google and apparently I searched for the wrong thing. What exactly am i looking for?
[02:53] <j0rg3> DARK: I entendo muy poco espanol (if that makes sense).  But I know how to laugh! JAJA!
[02:53] <wickedly_cool> anyone use cedega on ubuntu?
[02:53] <jrib> kuto: system > administration > networking , hit the "General" tab
[02:53] <j0rg3> entiedo, I think.  Sorry.
[02:53] <un_operateur1> kuto -- sudo hostname <hostname>
[02:53] <whyameye> BillyBober09: what you need is to add the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines that the site mentions. The directions are for Breezy but they will work for any version of ubuntu.
[02:54] <DARKGuy> j0rg3: it did, and that's a good start heh :)
[02:54] <un_operateur1> or editing /etc/hostname
[02:54] <kuto> jrib: what is the gnome equivalent of that? i need to administer that without administration in new user i am in new user sorry
[02:54] <DARKGuy> wickedly_cool: I do, not much but it works for some games why?
[02:54] <j0rg3> un_op:  This would drive me crazy.    Do you not have the "administration" menu?
[02:54] <un_operateur1> just nimble fingers and a 20/20 vision :)
[02:54] <BillyBober09> whyameye, ok thanks i may be back dunno hopefully not
[02:54] <Dr34mC0d3r> when i type date I get Fri Dec 15 18:41:15 MST 2006  I need to set it to CST. Anyone help ???? thanks - ubuntu 6.06
[02:55] <whyameye> BillyBober09: do you know how to edit as root?
[02:55] <n2diy> kuto, sudo gives you admin privledges.
[02:55] <un_operateur1> Dr34mC0d3r, is there a specific reason for doing this?
[02:55] <FernandoCordes> how can i remove a dir and all of its content?
[02:55] <kuto> jrib: my user dont have admin priveledges
[02:55] <jrib> FernandoCordes: rm -r directory
[02:55] <nothlit> FernandoCordes, rm -fr /path/to/dir
[02:55] <un_operateur1> and what is CST and MST ?? how do they differ -- sorry, i'm a european
[02:55] <The_Jack_of_Club> if i share something in linux then go to windows and try to access the share it asks for a user name... how do i enable guest authentication so that windows can read my smb shares on my ubuntu comp with out a password?
[02:55] <jrib> kuto: oh, well you need them to change the hostname.  Can you switch to the user that does have admin privs?
[02:56] <j0rg3> DARK: Thanks, I am trying.  Mostly I set my phones and equip to have Spanish menus.  That is how I am starting.  ;)  I know juegos like the back of my hand.
[02:56] <BillyBober09> whyameye, no
[02:56] <kuto> jrib: yes by terminal
[02:56] <j0rg3> JAJA
[02:56] <jrib> kuto: how?
[02:56] <Dr34mC0d3r> un_operateur1 - my php data insert's are recording the same incorrect date - i thought that if i correct the system date that would fix my data issue...
[02:56] <CalJohn> jrib: hmmm.  this is an annoying bug.
[02:56] <The_Jack_of_Club> !samba
[02:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:57] <CalJohn> never cooperate!
[02:57] <The_Jack_of_Club> forgot about ubotu :)
[02:57] <n2diy> FernandoCordes: open a terminal, enter "sudo nautilus" go to the directory you want, right click, and send it to the trash.
[02:57] <kuto> hey jrib: i change my nickname to untony ok
[02:57] <CalJohn> jrib: thanks for the help
[02:57] <untony2> hi jrib
[02:57] <jrib> CalJohn: yeah, I had always used it with capital letters too
[02:57] <jrib> untony2: hello
[02:58] <The_Jack_of_Club> bah
[02:58] <un_operateur1> Dr34mC0d3r, you can formulate your own date format like this  date +"%H %M %S %p"  --  type date --help at the command line for extra options
[02:58] <The_Jack_of_Club> no help
[02:58] <orangefly> can anyone tell me why my shared folder on my ubuntu server keeps say access is denied when i try to write to it....???....
[02:58] <j0rg3> un_op: I put a Knoppix disk in my computer and it no longer works.  Why?
[02:58] <The_Jack_of_Club> how do i get windows to stop asking for a username and password
[02:58] <The_Jack_of_Club> all i need
[02:58] <kuto> ok i log back in with admin support ubuntu is now looking like XP
[02:58] <whyameye> BillyBober09: "sudo" gives you admin privs. So the best thing to do is go to the terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then edit the file by adding/modifying the Horiz and Vert lines they mention. Make sure you save the file.
[02:58] <CalJohn> jrib: damnit, it doesn't even work with lower case
[02:58] <FernandoCordes> n2diy: i knew how to do it nautilus but i was looking for the command. thx anyways
[02:58] <un_operateur1> j0rg3, by disk i suppose you mean CD/DVD ??
[02:58] <jrib> CalJohn: did you merge?
[02:58] <Geoffrey2> what's the key combo to pull up tty1?
[02:58] <FernandoCordes> how can i remove all files containing a certain string?
[02:59] <jrib> Geoffrey2: ctrl-alt-f1
[02:59] <CalJohn> jrib: aha.  :)
[02:59] <j0rg3> un_op:  You are a noble man.  I was just making a joke.