[08:47] <moochoo> ectospasm, it's been over 8 1/2 hours since I started trying to work this out
[08:47] <ectospasm> Neconide: try fdisk
[08:47] <jumpingjack> glick, nbr, but it looks and works like regular ubuntu, without some preinstalled packages and another desktop interface, that you can switch to normal )
[08:47] <ectospasm> moochoo: so take a break
[08:48] <Neconide> ectospasm: alright, thanks.
[08:48] <kj4> MBR:  check that out: http://tinyurl.com/ykoo3x
[08:48] <moochoo> ectospasm, i've taken many lol
[08:48] <ectospasm> jumpingjack: I'm excited to try UNR on my Samsung N110 when it gets here!
[08:48] <glick> jumpingjack, does it handle the power better?
[08:48] <ectospasm> moochoo: take one equal to the amount of time you've spent on this
[08:48] <kj4> MBR allegedly it contains the tools you need to fix a vista MBR
[08:48] <Neconide> ectospasm: neconide@infected:~$ fdisk /dev/sda Unable to open /dev/sda
[08:48] <glick> jumpingjack, you dual boot it?
[08:48] <Neconide> ectospasm: could it have anything to do with wubi?
[08:48] <moochoo> ectospasm, but then I'll NEVER get it sorted lol
[08:48] <glick> with windows xp?
[08:48] <jumpingjack> glick, better then what?
[08:48] <ectospasm> Neconide: does /dev/sda exist?
[08:49] <glick> my netbook came with windows XP
[08:49] <Neconide> ectospasm: it's what my partitions are on
[08:49] <jumpingjack> glick, no i only installed ubuntu
[08:49] <glick> jumpingjack, i heard that regular ubuntu will hog the battery like nothing
[08:49] <moochoo> ectospasm, its more annoying than your usual problem, because it involves networking and nobody likes helping sort out other peoples networking problems
[08:49] <ectospasm> Neconide: "ls /dev/sd*" <- Does /dev/sda exist?
[08:49] <jumpingjack> glick, my battery works about 5 hours with nbr
[08:49] <Neconide> ectospasm: yes // /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda5
[08:50] <ectospasm> moochoo: hey, look, I'm trying, even though I'm almost as blind as Ray Charles used to be.
[08:50] <kj4> glick, i heard that too, i installed unbuntu nerdbookremix on my dell mini 9, then turned off the silly looking interface and it works great for months now
[08:50] <moochoo> ectospasm, lol its all good man - thanks :)
[08:50] <Neconide> ectospasm: I feel like an idiot, i forgot to sudo
[08:50] <ectospasm> heh
[08:50] <Neconide> >_<
[08:50] <glick> hmm
[08:50] <ideamonk> How can i share internet connection on wireless networks? , the internet connection is a wired one via proxy.
[08:50] <ectospasm> That's why I always sudo -i if I'm gonna be doing some serious root work
[08:50] <Neconide> ectospasm: sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[08:51] <glick> kj4, ima dual boot first, because i heard there were networking issues with the 1000he
[08:51] <ectospasm> I'm gonna dual boot my Samsung simply because I'll probably need Windows for school.
[08:51] <kj4> glick i think you can make a live USB stick to test that out
[08:51] <ectospasm> kj4: yeah, it's on the wiki
[08:51] <Neconide> ectospasm: ah
[08:52] <Neconide> ectospasm: go with vista if you have <4gb RAM
[08:52] <Neconide> ectospasm: otherwise its slow as fuck
[08:52] <ectospasm> <?  I thought the sweetspot was at 4GB
[08:52] <ectospasm> Oh, you meant >
[08:52] <Neconide> ectospasm: yeah lol
[08:52] <scarra> Who has a zune?
[08:52] <ectospasm> Nope, the Samsung comes with XP Home (blech
[08:52] <Neconide> ectospasm: it's 3am. that's my excuse. :P
[08:53] <innociv> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248724 wtf this is too confusing :(
[08:53] <ectospasm> Neconide: same here, but I don't claim it
[08:53] <ramram> could someone tell me, which Glib version is bundled with ubuntu 9.04
[08:53] <ramram> ?
[08:53] <Neconide> ectospasm: XP pro sp3 is good. I prefer derek's modded sp3 /w vista vg black skin
[08:53] <ramram> and also the gtk+ version
[08:53] <harahauk> ectospasm: I'd recommend win7 rc till win7 is out
[08:54] <ectospasm> Neconide: it comes with home.  If the school doesn't give it to me I'm gonna STEAL it.
[08:54] <harahauk> i havent had anything crash, malfunction or behave strangely yet =)
[08:54] <Neconide> ectospasm: :O stealing is bad you're going to hell
[08:54] <harahauk> ectospasm: ubuntu with a virtualized win7 is nice too =)
[08:55] <Neconide> ectospasm: jk
[08:55] <ectospasm> Neconide: So?
[08:55] <halberd> what exactly is a block? is the size determined by hardware or by the filesystem?
[08:55] <Neconide> ectospasm: are you christian?
[08:55] <ectospasm> I doubt a 1.6 Atom will be able to be a host for a guest
[08:55] <ectospasm> Neconide: Roman Catholic
[08:55] <Neconide> ectospasm: Ah so you believe in God and such?
[08:56] <ectospasm> Neconide: I try to
[08:56] <ectospasm> Neconide: and this conversation is getting offtopic
[08:56] <Neconide> ectospasm: I, myself, am an atheist. Though I respect the beliefs of others, and I just want to see if you're going to rage on me for it :X
[08:56] <myself> i am myself
[08:57] <Neconide> myself: orly
[08:57] <ectospasm> Neconide: nope, atheists have a religion like any other, so I respect that.
[08:57] <myself> yes and im agnostic, so back off.
[08:57] <ectospasm> myself: ditto
[08:57] <Neconide> ectospasm: good man.
[08:57] <Guest52107> NICK _sopi
[08:57] <ectospasm> Neconide: I'm not even convinced you're wrong...
[08:57] <Neconide> ectospasm: I was raised roman catholic but gave up on it when I saw the more logical side of it (no disrespect intended)
[08:58] <Neconide> ectospasm: but yeah this is getting a little too off-topic :X
[08:58] <ectospasm> yep
[08:59] <ectospasm> Neconide: pm?
[09:00] <ectospasm> Neconide: don't worry, I am NOT going to preach.
[09:01]  * mneptok laughs
[09:01] <mneptok> kids these days ...
[09:03] <des_> Q. I just did apt-get install python-examples... I saw data come in, but where are the results? /usr/share/doc/python-examples seems untouched.. How can I find out where this pkg puts things?
[09:03] <Neconide> ectospasm: you afk? PM lol
[09:05] <De[v]il> Good evening!
[09:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there a way for me to make a copy of game cd.. My friend lost their cd to their game but still has the box with the serial etc I don't know what app I should use in Ubuntu
[09:05] <des_> apt-file show python-examples.. -> command not found
[09:08] <mobi-sheep> !key
[09:08] <glicks> hmm i tried to run ubuntu remix on my eee 1000he and got an error message kernel panic - not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[09:08] <glicks> i used usb-imagewriter to create a bootable usb stick
[09:10] <fletch__> hello
[09:10] <mobi-sheep> glicks: What ISO?
[09:11] <mobi-sheep> glicks: You could use UNR.img -- It's much easier to work with than ISO when it comes to USB.  UNR also have the option of "Classic Desktop' where you can have a normal desktop.
[09:12] <glicks> mobi-sheep, i am using the unr img file
[09:12] <glicks> i get this error
[09:12] <glicks> ACPI: Aborted because no cpio magic
[09:12] <glicks> crc error
[09:12] <jumpingjack> mobi-sheep, btw, i like ubuntu unr desktop :) it gives more space for applications )
[09:13] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi Guys, there is something making my cpu run at 100% on this box but when i go to processes the only thing it says it is running is the gnome system monitor, any ideas what could be causing this?
[09:13] <mobi-sheep> jumpingjack: Power to each one's own. :)
[09:13] <des_> apt-file is an optional command.. I just installed it and now its b uilding a search cache
[09:14] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral run top, system monitor will only show your processes
[09:14] <mobi-sheep> glicks: Are you running Ubuntu right now?  Or you're on XP?
[09:14] <jumpingjack> glicks, mb there's something with your usb-stick? i didn't have this problem.. just wrote iso on usb, plug it and use)
[09:14] <kraut> moin
[09:14] <Jimi_Neutral> koshari, top?
[09:14] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral: yes "top" from a term
[09:14] <glicks> mobi-sheep, im running xp
[09:14] <glicks> mobi-sheep, i made the usb stick from my ubuntu desktop machine
[09:15] <Jimi_Neutral> koshari, im new to ubuntu so I dont quite get what you mean
[09:15] <FrozenFire> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsel/+bug/387178 Can someone confirm this bug for me?
[09:15] <Stepanstas> Can anyone help with recovering files from a corrupted partition?
[09:15] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral open a terminal, type in the 3 letters T O P and enter,
[09:16] <Jimi_Neutral> koshari, oh term = terminal...sorry duh :(
[09:16] <jumpingjack> glicks, how didd you try to get your ubuntu nbr running?
[09:16] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral lower case no spaces of course
[09:16] <mobi-sheep> Jimi_Neutral: (If you want the GUI). System --> Administration --> System Monitor
[09:16] <glicks> jumpingjack, i downloaded the unr image file, then installed the usb-imagewriter package, and wrote the image to my usb stick
[09:16] <mobi-sheep> glicks: Did you ran the md5sum?  Let
[09:16] <stealth-> how can I restart sshd?
[09:17] <glicks> no mobi-sheep
[09:17] <TheNo1Yeti> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[09:17] <lstarnes> stealth-: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[09:17] <znh_> stealth-, once you installed openssh-server you can start it with /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:17] <Jimi_Neutral> Ah, its SETI@home, t guys
[09:17] <jumpingjack> glicks, and then?
[09:17] <stealth-> thanks guys
[09:17] <glicks> jumpingjack, then i put it into my netbook and reboot
[09:17] <Jimi_Neutral> cant find the icon for it though to turn it off
[09:19] <mobi-sheep> glicks: md5sum your UNR image --> "md5sum your-ubuntu-unr.img"
[09:19] <mobi-sheep> glicks: It should be --> 8f921e001aebc3e98e8e8e7d29ee1dd4
[09:19] <ramram> I need to install gtk 2.16 and need to install Glib 2.19.7 or above, is there a deb package of the above?
[09:19] <Stepanstas> I need help recovering files from a corrupt partition
[09:19] <znh_> I wish the webbrowser automaticly checked a md5sum of a downloaded file
[09:19] <jumpingjack> glicks, than i have no idea... try to download it again from ubuntu.com
[09:20] <glicks> mobi-sheep, md5sum checks out
[09:20] <Jimi_Neutral> how am i supposed to turn boinc off if i cant see it in my sysmon and there is no icon for it anywhere?
[09:20] <mobi-sheep> znh_: No need to.  That mean every time you download something trivial such as images and torrent files, it'll be checked?  That's painful.
[09:21] <Adola> Can someone please help me with Chroot?
[09:21] <Adola> PLEASE?
[09:21] <znh_> mobi-sheep, how is it painful? The user should have the option to enable this feature for specific files, such as .iso
[09:22] <mobi-sheep> znh_: It's not in our control.  There are movie ISOs.  DVD ISOs.  Softwares ISOs.  :)
[09:23] <ls1983> Hi, Can someone help me connect wireless pls /
[09:23] <Lokian> anyone can recommend a nice command line torrent client for ubuntu?
[09:23] <Lokian> or just torrent client in general for ubuntu?
[09:24] <ls1983> Can anyone help me setup wireless ?
[09:25] <hateball> !anyone | ls1983
[09:25] <janis> wireless what? :D
[09:25] <ls1983> wireless network, am currently connected to internet using wires but want wireless
[09:26] <kramerstefan> Hi, I want to know if my ATI Radeon X300 will still work in Jaunty.
[09:26] <kramerstefan> or do I need to stick with Intrepid?
[09:26] <mobi-sheep> glicks: Do you see Ubuntu USB Startup under System --> Administration?
[09:26] <ls1983> janis: can you help me ?
[09:27] <lianimator> hi, a friend of mine with ubuntu 9.04 cannot see a list of available packages with "sudo apt-get install <tab>". instead sees the directory's contents.
[09:28] <mobi-sheep> lianimator: Did your friend type in a partial keyword?
[09:29] <lianimator> yes.
[09:30] <lianimator> for e.g. without any keyword, it shows the contents of the directory.
[09:30] <lianimator> as if doing "ls"
[09:30] <lianimator> but typing the full name of the package does work.
[09:32] <ls1983> pls i need to connect to internet wireless can someone help me ?
[09:33] <g7> what is your wireless problem?
[09:33] <ls1983> g7: it will not connect keeps asking for passphrase altough i have inputted the right and using key1, WEP
[09:34] <Nagori> /windows balance
[09:35] <g7> is it your router that you are trying to attach to?
[09:35] <mobi-sheep> lianimator: I mean sudo apt-get install star<tab> would display a list of possible packages.
[09:35] <ls1983> g7: yes it's a wirless router and had it connected before but no its not workin
[09:36] <lianimator> mobi-sheep: I know it should, but it doesn't.
[09:37] <g7> I would try temporarily turning off the wep encryption and trying to connect.
[09:38] <reqon__> bugger
[09:38] <iceblock> hehe
[09:38] <ls1983> turning it off the wep doesnt work either tried taht
[09:38] <Slart> lianimator: actually "sudo apt-get install <TAB> <TAB>" shows you a list of packages.. not filenames
[09:39] <lianimator> Slart: that's what I'm trying to get.. I know what to expect. but not getting it
[09:40] <Slart> lianimator: hmm.. can you do this.. "md5sum /etc/bash_completion" ? what is the md5sum?
[09:41] <elemeNtttt1> 23282fc1f495886f1acf6bd95674af2f  /etc/bash_completion
[09:41] <pretender> Running Eeebuntu have moved applications places and system on the panel to the far right how do i get it back to default
[09:41] <lianimator> Slart: elemeNtttt1's the guy
[09:42] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: mm.. that's what I get on a fresh install in a vm too
[09:42] <elemeNtttt1> Is there any solution?
[09:43] <znh_> elemeNtttt1, to answer your question, there probably is.
[09:43] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: hmm.. is it the same if you run a live cd? have you configured bash in any special way?
[09:43] <Kottizen> hi
[09:43] <elemeNtttt1> No
[09:43] <elemeNtttt1> I didn't.
[09:44] <elemeNtttt1> I just installed 9.04.
[09:44] <The-IT> HELLO
[09:44] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: oh.. so it's a fresh install?
[09:44] <De[v]il> i am search english girl!
[09:44] <jumpingjack> glicks,, how is your nbr going? )
[09:44] <elemeNtttt1> ya
[09:44] <The-IT> ubuntu rox!!
[09:44] <znh_> De[v]il, you won't find attractive girls in here *laughs*
[09:44] <Slart> De[v]il: asking in a linux support channel is limiting your options a bit, don't you think?
[09:45] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: and if you just type "sudo apt-get install " and then press tab twice you get a list of files in the current folder?
[09:45] <De[v]il> znh_ only communicate^)
[09:45] <De[v]il> :)
[09:45] <Slart> De[v]il: besides.. it's very off topic.. this isn't the channel you want
[09:46] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: ya
[09:46] <znh_> Slart, be more open minded. De[v]il could have a religion where she may only be helped by the same sex
[09:47] <De[v]il> Slart prompt such channel?
[09:47] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: can you pastebin the terminal window after you've tried this?
[09:47] <De[v]il> i from russia! =/
[09:47] <Slart> znh_: true.. I'll try to be more open minded =)
[09:47] <Slart> De[v]il: I have no idea.. try /list
[09:48]  * znh_ pets Slart with a twisted grin
[09:48] <De[v]il> Slart thank you
[09:49] <jumpingjack> when they'll put a flash on chromium? )
[09:49] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: what command?
[09:50] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: after typing sudo apt-get install and pressing tab twice
[09:50] <_PiLoT_> hey guys ive installed epiphany but its not in my app list
[09:50] <_PiLoT_> any ideas
[09:51] <glicks> jumpingjack, its going ok, trying to test out bluetooth :)
[09:51] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: it shows the same as ls<tab>. I can't really pastebin my contents of my home folder.. :)
[09:52] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: also, sudo apt<tab> doesn't become apt-get. but without sudo, it does.
[09:52] <jumpingjack> glicks, what did you do with kernel panic? )
[09:52] <rabten> for some reason i can't edit my sources.list file in Open Office Writer
[09:52] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: hmm.. and this is a fresh install? not an upgrade?
[09:53] <elemeNtttt1> Slart:  Fresh install
[09:53] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: installed any software on the system yet?
[09:53] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: ya, alot..
[09:54] <gigi> ciao a tutti
[09:54] <lianimator> Slart: elemeNtttt1 did install SCIM.. which sometimes makes keyboard inactive.
[09:54] <glicks> does unr not support bluetooth out of the box>?
[09:55] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: hmm.. anything that might affect bash? other shells? anything like that
[09:55] <mooseberry> im using compizconfig settings manager for the first time and i enabled 3d windows but... how do i use that affect?
[09:55] <rne1223> Do you guys know how can I change the OpenGl driver
[09:55] <Slart> lianimator, elemeNtttt1: hmm.. but tab works alright with ls.. but not with commands.. think scim would do that?
[09:56] <innociv> well..
[09:56] <innociv> im having problems making jailkit work :(
[09:56] <Slart> mooseberry: 3d windows is only visible when you use the cube, I think.. ie the windows will be like a thin plate instead of just an image on the cube
[09:56] <mooseberry> Slart: how do i use the cube :P
[09:56] <jumpingjack> glicks. it suppots, look at preferences-bluetooth
[09:57] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: command autocomplete doesn't work at all with sudo? or is it just apt-get?
[09:57] <innociv> Failed to create device /dev/urandom, this is a know problem with python 2.1
[09:57] <rne1223> Do you guys know how can I change the OpenGl render?
[09:57] <Slart> mooseberry: use 4 horizontal desktops, set a shortcut for the cube in ccsm.. if at first you fail.. ask in #compiz-fusion
[09:57] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: sudo shut<tab> doesn't work. but shut<tab> becomes shutdown.. weird
[09:57] <Q-FUNK> hi!  since a couple of weeks, the gnome fileselector in applications started showing .files, which is obviously undesirable.  is there a way to fix this?
[09:58] <sanxiyn> elemeNtttt1: Hm, works for me.
[09:58] <glicks> jumpingjack, yeah i activated the icon, but i cant seem to connect to my cell phone
[09:58] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: could something have changed the permissions on the bash_completion file? but.. that would work the other way, wouldn't it
[09:58] <Lartza_> How do I use thunar for desktop? I have openbox
[09:58] <jumpingjack> glicks, did you enable it in bios?
[09:58] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: or wait.. have you logged in as root?
[09:59] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: Isn't thunar file manager (and not desktop)?
[09:59] <Lartza_> I mean for desktop icons, nautilus does that too and pcman file manager
[09:59] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: never logged in as root
[09:59] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: Nautilus does that, but as far as I know thunar doesn't.
[10:00] <Lartza_> It doesn't?
[10:00] <sanxiyn> And I don't think desktop functionality belongs to file managers...
[10:00] <Lartza_> sanxiyn: YOur system has that too
[10:00] <Lartza_> nautilus
[10:00] <logansan01> !fr
[10:00] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: ?
[10:01] <Lartza_> sanxiyn: YOur desktop is propably runned with a file manager too
[10:01] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: found quick fix: complete -cf sudo
[10:01] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: No it isn't.
[10:01] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: I use IceWM.
[10:01] <sanxiyn> And no icons on desktop.
[10:01] <sanxiyn> (And yes I use thunar.)
[10:01] <Lartza_> well i dont have desktop icons either with openbox, but i want them
[10:01] <glicks> jumpingjack, i didnt think i had to, ubuntu regular sees it fine]\
[10:01] <Lartza_> :)
[10:01] <elemeNtttt1> Slart: but the contents of the current folder also shows up with "sudo apt-get install <tab>"
[10:02] <Slart> elemeNtttt1: huh? what is "complete"?? never even heard of it before
[10:02] <Lartza_> ok so thunar cant manage desktop :(
[10:02] <jumpingjack> glicks, actualy you should enable bluetooth module in bios.. and camera too )
[10:02] <lianimator> Slart: found complete here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1180029
[10:02] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: Maybe you want something like iDesk?
[10:03] <rne1223> DO YOU GUYS KNOW HOW CAN I CHANGE THE OPENGL RENDER?
[10:03] <Lartza_> yes i try that now, but what i have understood its a little different from what i want
[10:03] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: Which is a desktop and an icon mananer (and not a file manager).
[10:03] <sanxiyn> I see.
[10:03] <zzaza> hi all
[10:03] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: So no, thunar is a file manager, therefore doesn't manage desktop.
[10:03] <sanxiyn> (iDesk is a desktop though.)
[10:03] <michelinux> Using PowerTop I see that my eth0 is making a lot of wakesup. Since I'm using wlan0, is there any way to deactivate eth0 when I'm not using it?
[10:03] <Slart> lianimator: ahh.. that thread looks like it has some good info.. good find
[10:04] <Lartza_> PCMan needs better desktop managing :( it overrides conky for now
[10:04] <glicks> in bluetooth when i select only show icon when adaptor is present it dissappears
[10:05] <rne1223>  DO YOU GUYS KNOW HOW CAN I CHANGE THE OPENGL RENDER?
[10:05] <sanxiyn> rne1223: No.
[10:05] <Lartza_> I knew idesk is not for me...
[10:05] <Slart> rne1223: wow.. you're one of those guys that think everyone understands english.. if.. you.. only.. talk.. slowly.. or in your case.. USE CAPITAL LETTERS. Why not add some info to your question instead of having a fit
[10:05] <Lartza_> I want a folder to desktop, not icons
[10:05] <Lartza_> Like nautilus does it
[10:06] <credo> michelinux: #ifconfig eth0 down?
[10:06] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: IIRC ROX is a file manager that can do desktop too.
[10:06] <Slart> rne1223: and repeating a question every 60 seconds will only get you kicked out of here.. no matter how angry you are
[10:06] <Lartza_> ROX has ugly icons
[10:06] <rne1223> Slart: dude...I just needed to know if somebody was listening. If you guys don't know that is cool, but don't just ignore the question
[10:06] <innociv> anyone know hwo to use jailkit?..
[10:07] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: Hm, it seems nothing fits your requirement :( Too bad.
[10:07] <Lartza_> oh and it looks messed up without configureation
[10:07] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: I used to use ROX (with a lot of custom configuration), but not now.
[10:07] <Lartza_> it rounds up everything grey exept conky ad my bmpanel and covers wallpaper
[10:07] <Slart> rne1223: there are over a thousand people here.. if everyone answered to every question this channel would be useless..
[10:07] <michelinux> @credo yes, just the simple way...
[10:07] <Lartza_> i dont want nautilus its so heavy :(
[10:07] <Slart> rne1223: when people don't answer it usually means your question is badly worded .. or they just don't know
[10:08] <rne1223> Slart: Man I'm not going to get into a word fight with you...if you don't know what I"m talking about...then that is fine
[10:08] <wary> ciao a tutti
[10:08] <sanxiyn> So... Nautilus -> heavy; PCMan -> needs better desktop handling; iDesk -> no folder, not for you; ROX -> ugly; Thunar -> doesn't do desktop
[10:08] <rne1223> Slart: Thanks for your input
[10:08] <thewrongboy> hi i have a qn about apt-get source packages
[10:09] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: Hm maybe you want to report bugs to PCMan and get them fixed?
[10:09] <thewrongboy> after i apt-get source <package name>
[10:09] <Lartza_> rox is not only ugly but doesnt handle it correctly either witohut configuration, pcman cant at all though...
[10:09] <thewrongboy> and run ./configure; make; make install
[10:09] <Lartza_> i think the pcman "bug" is known because people ask about how to get pcman and conky on all sites
[10:09] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: ok, so you don't like ROX default, but pcman lacks feature entirely?
[10:09] <Tensai_> Why wouldn't an SFTP user show up when I type 'who' or 'users'?
[10:09] <thewrongboy> are the patches compiled too?
[10:09] <sanxiyn> Lartza_: I see.
[10:10] <sanxiyn> thewrongboy: No.
[10:10] <sanxiyn> thewrongboy: If you want to apply patches, you need to apply them.
[10:11] <sanxiyn> That is, apt-get source extracts source and applies diff, but does not apply patches included as a file in diff.
[10:11] <thewrongboy> okay..
[10:11] <innociv> When I try to conenct with winscp for a new user i just made, with the password i set, correct ip and port, I get "Authenticating password" then "Acess denied" ..
[10:11] <tat_> i updated just to jaunty, and there are no .fdi files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy, so xserver cant get acess to input devices, am i suposed to lay them myself there or is there a package/command to do that ?
[10:11] <thewrongboy> then how do i apply them?
[10:11] <sanxiyn> (There is an ongoing discussion on how to automate that, actually. No solution for now.)
[10:11] <sanxiyn> thewrongboy: That's the bad part. There is no standard.
[10:11] <thewrongboy> oh... ouch
[10:11] <thewrongboy> how do i do it manually then?
[10:12] <sanxiyn> Debian folks are working on it :(
[10:12] <Lartza_> sanxiyn:Date: 2008-07-14
[10:12] <sanxiyn> thewrongboy: It differs from packages to packages. Read package documentation if there is one.
[10:12] <Lartza_> sanxiyn: You need to ask conky's author.
[10:12] <thewrongboy> wow... that sucks...
[10:12] <Lartza_> From my limited knowledge about X, I think it's conky that needs to be
[10:12] <Lartza_> changed.
[10:12] <sanxiyn> thewrongboy: If there isn't, you need to figure it out.
[10:12] <Lartza_> hmpfh... didnt render the text very well...
[10:12] <thewrongboy> hmm let me poke around the package and see if i can figure it out
[10:12] <rne1223> I would like to change my OpenGl render from " Software Rasterizer" to " Intel 945GM..." does somebody knows how to do this?
[10:12] <thewrongboy> sanxiyn, the package in question is python-gobject btw
[10:13] <rne1223> I would greatly appreciate it.
[10:13] <Slart> !intel | rne1223, this might be affecting you.. not sure if it would go back to software rendering though.. but it might be worth a read
[10:14] <rne1223> alright thanks
[10:16] <Slart> rne1223: you might want to check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log too.. if there were errors when initializing you graphics hardware they ought to show up there
[10:18] <Lartza_>  /part
[10:18] <rne1223> Slart: The thing is that when I start my computer I get direct rendering. But after I play OpenArena it goes to Software rendering
[10:18] <innociv> SIGH :(
[10:18] <rne1223> Slart: Let me check the logs
[10:18] <innociv> How do i uninstall jailkit?
[10:19] <Slart> rne1223: the logs won't help you then.. it's created when X starts up
[10:21] <sanxiyn> thewrongboy: pygobject uses custom quilt rule. Use $ debian/rules patch to patch.
[10:21] <sanxiyn> (And unpatch to unpatch.)
[10:21] <sanxiyn> Some packages use apply/unapply for that.
[10:21] <sanxiyn> Still some packages differ again...
[10:21] <rne1223> Slart: Maybe...but I don't think that is the problem. I think that it has something to do with the game since it switches after I play it
[10:21] <innociv> Why do i keep getting access denied in sftp when pasword is correct?
[10:22] <sanxiyn> thewrongboy: Yes it sucks. People are working on agreeing on solution.
[10:22] <Slart> rne1223: yup.. might be openarena... or the opengl drivers..
[10:22] <Slart> innociv: check the logs for the sftp daemon
[10:22] <innociv> i think because of permissions..
[10:23] <Tensai_> innociv - are you in the AllowUsers list?
[10:23] <innociv> AllowUsers list?
[10:23] <Tensai_> yeah what's that file...
[10:24] <tehbaut> I can never remember what the default root passwd is, lol
[10:24] <Tensai_>  is it /etc/sshd_config
[10:24] <Slart> tehbaut: noone can.. there isn't one
[10:25] <lstarnes> tehbaut: there isn't onw
[10:25] <lstarnes> *one
[10:25] <tehbaut> lstarnes, hmmm well just pressing enter leads to an auth failure
[10:25] <innociv> i dunno :(
[10:25] <lstarnes> tehbaut: it's locked
[10:26] <Slart> tehbaut: we didn't say it was blank.. there is no root password by default
[10:27] <Tensai_> type
[10:27] <Tensai_> doh - type 'sudo pico /etc/sshd_config' and see if there is a line that starts AllowUsers
[10:27] <Tensai_> you should be in that line
[10:30] <tehbaut> Slart, so how do I set it up? sudo root passwd?
[10:30] <lstarnes> tehbaut: you should not set a password for root
[10:30] <tehbaut> hmmm, so sudo su root then?
[10:30] <bullgard4> Who would test Ekiga with me, please?
[10:30] <lstarnes> tehbaut: sudo -i
[10:30] <tehbaut> works for me
[10:32] <Slart> !sudo | tehbaut
[10:32] <Slart> !worksforme | tehbaut
[10:32] <Slart> !supportroot | tehbaut
[10:32] <Slart> is that enough, tehbaut ?
[10:33] <Wikkedfin> quick question im trying to allow web users to view whats in my public_html do i type chmod 755 /home/wikkedfin
[10:33] <lstarnes> Wikkedfin: don't chmod your home dir
[10:33] <lstarnes> Wikkedfin: chmod the public_html
[10:33] <Guest45027> Hey guys, I was hoping someone could help me with a partition problem I'm having?
[10:34] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: public_html had already the correct chmod-settings for what you want
[10:34] <sanxiyn> Slart: Well, if he wants root password, it's his prerogative. (I have one too.)
[10:34] <iceroot> !ask | Guest45027
[10:34] <Slart> tehbaut: sudo -i will get you a root shell... while using your own user password..
[10:34] <Wikkedfin> doesnt work tho
[10:34] <parapanghelescu> hi there can someone help me with the sintax of chown ? want to change the owner of folder from root to user ....
[10:34] <innociv> acces denied still..
[10:34] <innociv> do i ned to restart sshd?
[10:34] <innociv> how do i view sessionlog?
[10:34] <lstarnes> parapanghelescu: sudo chown -R user.group folder
[10:35] <iceroot> parapanghelescu: man chown     sudo chown user:group file/folder
[10:35] <lstarnes> parapanghelescu: the group is often the same as the user's username
[10:35] <Slart> sanxiyn: sure.. but I will not help him with it.. and it shouldn't be done in this channel
[10:35] <sanxiyn> I see.
[10:35] <zzaza> i have been using thunderbird e-mail client but am planning to change to evolution , i do have a lot of downloaded e-mails what is the best way do do this
[10:35] <parapanghelescu> Istarnes / iceroot > thanks > I have 2 versions ;)\
[10:35] <Guest45027> cheers.  I was trying to get windows to read an ext3 formatted disk, so I initialized it under windows.  Rebooting into linux, that disk is no longer recognized.  What can I do to get it back?
[10:35] <Wikkedfin> am i allow to paste links in here?
[10:36] <lstarnes> Wikkedfin: links to what?
[10:36] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:36] <Wikkedfin> my public_html error
[10:36] <silv3r_m00n> how do I convert a mpeg video to flash swf ?
[10:36] <sanxiyn> zzaza: Try http://gaveen.owain.org/2007/07/howto-migrate-from-thunderbird-to.html
[10:36] <lstarnes> iceroot: try restarting it
[10:36] <silv3r_m00n> or flv
[10:36] <lstarnes> Wikkedfin: what is the error?
[10:36] <sanxiyn> silv3r_m00n: ffmpeg
[10:36] <zzaza> sanxiyn, thanks
[10:37] <silv3r_m00n> sanxiyn: e.g. ?
[10:37] <limpc> has anyone had any success using Metisse on ubuntu jaunty? all the links to installing/using Metisse on ubuntu are dead.
[10:37] <parapanghelescu> -R means that from the base folder to all subfolders right ?
[10:37] <iceroot> parapanghelescu: yes
[10:37] <lstarnes> parapanghelescu: and all files in it
[10:37] <Wikkedfin> You don't have permission to access /~ccc on this server
[10:37] <rabbit64> Hi. I tried to disallow reboot from gnome (system->shutdown) using policyKit (freedesktop.hal.powermanagement and consolekit), but reboot is still possible. Even after stopping hal service. Do you know how to debug this?
[10:37] <gaveen> sanxiyn, whoa! glad you find it useful :)
[10:37] <Wikkedfin> ubuntu server 8.04.2
[10:37] <lstarnes> parapanghelescu: -R = Recursive
[10:38] <sanxiyn> silv3r_m00n: ffmpeg -i 1.mpg 1.flv
[10:38] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: mod_userdir loaded?
[10:38] <innociv> how do i check what groups a user is a part of?
[10:38] <lstarnes> Wikkedfin: what is the mode of your public_html?
[10:38] <silv3r_m00n> sanxiyn: any frontend of ffmpeg ?
[10:38] <parapanghelescu> OK > what about if the "folder" is a flash stick ? I'll do the chown to /media/Stick folder correct ?
[10:38] <Wikkedfin> iceroot i have other accts with public_html working just i cant seem to get this one working
[10:38] <Slart> innociv: isn't there a "groups" command?
[10:38] <lstarnes> iceroot: groups username
[10:39] <iceroot> lstarnes: wrong nick
[10:39] <sanxiyn> silv3r_m00n: There must be; I use ffmpeg from command line, so I don't know one.
[10:39] <lstarnes> iceroot: oops
[10:39] <sanxiyn> Anyone else?
[10:39] <innociv> okay..
[10:39] <lstarnes> Wikkedfin: check for a .htaccess in there
[10:39] <innociv> well i have this user in groups that these files are, and chmod 775.. and get permission denied tyrign to edit
[10:39] <termos> i have troubles with wpa in ubnuntu, i heard this was a common problem. is there a fix?
[10:39] <user1> does ubuntu have any web hosting  servers?
[10:40] <lstarnes> user1: like web server software?
[10:40] <sanxiyn> user1: It certainly includes web servers. What is web hosting server?
[10:40] <iceroot> termos: its working fine here
[10:40] <iceroot> user1: apache2
[10:40] <user1> i mean if i want to start a new site i need someone to host my server
[10:40] <tehbaut> anyone know how to mount an hfsplus drive as writable?
[10:40] <user1> iceroot: yes
[10:40] <tehbaut> I'm only getting it to mount as readable
[10:40] <user1> iceroot: or apache latest
[10:40] <silv3r_m00n> sanxiyn: error while opening codec for output stream   << getting this when I execute your command
[10:41] <iceroot> user1: depending on your country, rent webspace or a (v)server
[10:41] <unop> tehbaut, you will need to disable the journal on the volume (from within Mac OS) first
[10:41] <sanxiyn> silv3r_m00n: Hm. Works for me here. :(
[10:41] <phlexonance> which browser has the best flash performance?
[10:41] <parapanghelescu> user1> I suggest you use lampp or the linux version of xampp .......it contains also php and mysql
[10:41] <user1> ubuntu doesn't have any right?
[10:41] <innociv> actually it says "upload of file '____' was sucessful but an error occured while setting the permissions and/or timestamp.  If the problem persists, turn on 'ignore permissions errors'"
[10:41] <tehbaut> unop, I know ...and journaling is not enabled on it
[10:41] <sanxiyn> silv3r_m00n: ffmpeg --version ? (Use pastebin)
[10:41] <tehbaut> unop, but it's still not mounting as writable
[10:41] <Slart> user1: you probably just need a browser and a ftp client then..and somewhere to host you website.. but the last thing doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu
[10:41] <iceroot> user1: dont get waht you want. ubuntu has apache2
[10:41] <horde> Hey guys.  I was trying to get windows to read an ext3 formatted disk, so I initialized it under windows.  Rebooting into linux, that disk is no longer recognized.  Now I'm trying to get it back.  Can anyone help?
[10:42] <unop> tehbaut,  dmesg | grep hfs  # does this command give you anything?
[10:42] <limpc> bleh.
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> hi all, im just reading from the K&R book to learn C and it has asked me to do a heading for a temp conversion program...im completley new to C so I added a printf line with the relevant text but it has printed out above each conversion, could someone help me with this, i jst want it to appear at the top as a normal heading
[10:42] <limpc> has anyone even heard of Metisse?
[10:42] <unop> Jimi_Neutral,  /j #c
[10:42] <limpc> http://www-ihm.lri.fr/metisse/ <-- metisse
[10:42] <tehbaut> unop, 'filesystem was not cleanly unmounted'
[10:42] <user1> Slart: right I know but just wanted to confirm if the community thinks of holding something of that kind???
[10:43] <unop> tehbaut, right .. that's why it can't be mounted then
[10:43] <tehbaut> unop, no clue why that would be, unless it's an osx thing
[10:43] <sanxiyn> horde: What do you mean "initialized"? Windows doesn't support ext3 by default.
[10:43] <Wikkedfin> no luck
[10:43] <iceroot> user1: what you need? only webspace or also php and sql-support?
[10:43] <sanxiyn> horde: You need to install ext3 file system driver for Windows to do that.
[10:43] <lstarnes> Jimi_Neutral: I would recommend asking in ##c, but you do need to be identified with nickserv to speak there
[10:43] <Slart> user1: hmm.. no.. other than the ppa space you can get if you register at launchpad
[10:43] <Jimi_Neutral> crap i keep asking in th wrong room sorry lol
[10:43] <om26er> plz tell me how too install firefox
[10:43] <om26er> plz
[10:43] <phlexonance> I have very poor flash performance with firefox on 8.04
[10:43] <tehbaut> unop, if I run rsck.hfsplus on it will it fix whatever is wrong with it?
[10:43] <iceroot> om26er: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:44] <om26er> i have 3.0.11 installed
[10:44] <om26er> i want to upgrade to 3.5preview
[10:44] <sanxiyn> phlexonance: In my experience Flash performance doesn't vary between browsers.
[10:44] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone. I have a directory with subdirectories, and i want to delete all files with a .LCK as filetype any ideas how to do that ?
[10:44] <om26er> i downloaded a package and don't kn how to install
[10:44] <Slart> DjAngo23: "find" might be one way
[10:44] <sanxiyn> DjAngo23: find . -name '*.LCK' | xargs rm (or something like that)
[10:44] <iceroot> om26er: ending of the package?  deb? rpm? tar.gz?
[10:44] <horde> sanxiyn: I had installed extifs (windows kernel driver for reading ext2/3 partitions), and windows didn't recognize the disk.  So I went into disk management and initialized it.  That didn't work, and when I rebooted ubuntu didn't recognize the disk either.
[10:44] <unop> tehbaut, as far as i can tell, only OSx can fully fsck a hfsplus volume
[10:44] <om26er> tar.gz
[10:45] <om26er> i extracted
[10:45] <unop> tehbaut, but you can try
[10:45] <phlexonance> sanxiyn, opera uses a pluginwrapper for the flashplugin because the toolkit used between opera and the flashplugin differs, I think that would decrease the performance
[10:45] <olax> i need html/decoder to run swf have try online and not gotten
[10:45] <iceroot> om26er: look if tehre is a deb
[10:45] <parapanghelescu> Istranes / iceroot > problem : the command made the files available to user BUT THEY ARE READ_ONLY system files ...I cannot delete them .....:d
[10:45] <lstarnes> om26er: look for a readme or install file in there
[10:45] <om26er> there is no deb
[10:45] <sanxiyn> horde: Oops that sucks. (But you should have mentioned extifs in your question then.)
[10:45] <iceroot> om26er: then look at the readme in the tar.gz
[10:45] <horde> sanxiyn: sorry bout that
[10:45] <sanxiyn> (There are other ext drivers for Windows than extifs)
[10:45] <Wikkedfin> Someone once told me sumthing like chmod -R 755 /home/USER
[10:45] <sanxiyn> horde: Unfortunately I have no experience with extifs. Maybe you want to ask their forum?
[10:46] <DjAngo23> sanxiyn, Slart : Thanks, i gonna try that
[10:46] <om26er> there is no readme
[10:46] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: dont to this!!
[10:46] <sanxiyn> horde: By the way, I use ext2fsd myself.
[10:46] <liquidat> Hi there, is anyone capable of creating pdf files via asciidoc on ubuntu?
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> can someone help me with registering my nickname, i did it once before ages ago but now cant remember....why doesnt it bloody stay registered
[10:46] <lstarnes> om26er: if that's for firefox, just move it into a folder under your home directory then run the firefox executable that's in it
[10:46] <Jimi_Neutral> the help thing is not very helpful either
[10:47] <Slart> !register | Jimi_Neutral
[10:47] <om26er> but i want to install it permanently
[10:47] <lstarnes> Jimi_Neutral: you will need to remember to check your email for a verification code
[10:48] <horde> sanxiyn: well, extifs didn't actually do anything to the disk.  Windows wasn't even recognizing the disk as being attached, so I went into Disk Management and initialized it in the hopes that it would see it and then extifs could read it.
[10:48] <sinan> is there a way to rename files based on a regular expression ?
[10:48] <silv3r_m00n> sanxiyn: this works >> ffmpeg -i movie.mpg -ar 22050 -ab 32 -f flv -s 320x240 -aspect 4:3 -y  movie.flv
[10:48] <sanxiyn> silv3r_m00n: Nice.
[10:48] <parapanghelescu> how do I delete a read-only system file ???????
[10:48] <lstarnes> parapanghelescu: what file?
[10:49] <horde> sanxiyn: it wasn't a format or anything, and the operation was almost instantaneous, so I was hoping it was something fsck or gparted could fix.  But I don't want to mess it up anymore by just fiddling.
[10:49] <sanxiyn> horde: I agree. I think you'd need more expertise than I can provide...
[10:49] <om26er> istarne
[10:49] <Wikkedfin> hey i figured it out
[10:49] <Wikkedfin> it was chmod a+rx /home
[10:49] <om26er> iwannt it permanent
[10:49] <Wikkedfin> ;p
[10:49] <Wikkedfin> well
[10:49] <lstarnes> om26er: that is permenent
[10:49] <lstarnes> om26er: unless you remove the folder
[10:50] <Wikkedfin> ./home/ccc
[10:50] <horde> sanxiyn: ok, thanks.
[10:50] <Hannes3> join #unixboard
[10:50] <om26er> is there a way to install it
[10:50] <parapanghelescu> Istarnes > I have some files on a mem stick; word, excel, made in Windows; I tried to delete them in Ubuntu; doesnt work; I made chown command ...now it transformed all the files into read-only system file :)
[10:50] <lstarnes> sinan: try find . -name *pattern* -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[10:50] <Wikkedfin> thx for the help ppl
[10:51] <kmdm> lstarnes: sinan: He said rename not remove :S
[10:51] <Jimi_Neutral> ok my nickname is registered already cause i have alreayd done it so why cant i log into ##C
[10:51] <sanxiyn> om26er: What are you trying to install?
[10:51] <lstarnes> Jimi_Neutral: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:51] <om26er> firefox 3.5preview
[10:51] <lstarnes> sinan: oops, I think I messed that one up
[10:52] <sanxiyn> om26er: I don't think it needs any install?
[10:52] <Slart> Jimi_Neutral: you have to "login" so to say.. ie identify yourself.. with the nickserv command lstarnes told you
[10:52] <sinan> lstarnes: yeah, i am not sure that approach would work with mv.
[10:52] <sanxiyn> (You can run it from your home directory)
[10:52] <Jimi_Neutral> it just says please register with services and use the indentify command
[10:53] <magnetron> Jimi_Neutral: are you registered with the services?
[10:53] <kmdm> sinan: something like... for x in `ls`; do mv $x `echo $x | sed 's/foo/bar/'`; done ?
[10:53] <om26er> sanxiyn y
[10:53] <Jimi_Neutral> magnetron, well i regisered ages ago so i belive so
[10:53] <sinan> kmdm: yeah, i guess that would work! thx
[10:53] <magnetron> Jimi_Neutral: then identify using yout password
[10:53] <sanxiyn> sinan: You can use rename too. man rename.
[10:53] <lstarnes> sinan: there's also a way to do it using find and basename with mv
[10:53] <om26er> u mean that to start browser i open the folder and then open executable
[10:53] <Jimi_Neutral> magnetron, using what line?
[10:54] <magnetron> Jimi_Neutral: the one lstarnes gave you
[10:54] <kmdm> sinan: either way, I'd backup first... ;-)
[10:54] <lstarnes> Jimi_Neutral: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:54] <farciarz84> hi can I turn on only some of the compiz features?
[10:54] <sinan> the files i am renaming are output from "convert". now it occurs to me, maybe i could make convert output the right names from the first place ...
[10:54] <Jimi_Neutral> magnetron, i did that and it came up with ##C :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[10:54] <lstarnes> om26er: you could create a launcher for it on your desktop or in the menu
[10:54] <Slart> !ccsm | farciarz84
[10:54] <sinan> kmdm: sure :)
[10:54] <sanxiyn> rename s/foo/bar/ *
[10:54] <sanxiyn> etc.
[10:54] <lecho> hello
[10:55] <Slart> hello lecho
[10:55] <innociv> invalid jail, /home/.../etc/passwd does not exist  is what I keep getitng.  This is so frustrating
[10:55] <lstarnes> Jimi_Neutral: I make sure you're noe putting any spaces before that /
[10:55] <lstarnes> *not
[10:55] <om26er> is there a way to load ubuntu on ram as live cd. my netbooks ssd is very slow and when i used live cd it was very responsive
[10:55] <kmdm> sanxiyn: Hm, cool, didn't know about rename :)
[10:55] <lecho> i leave from poland
[10:55] <s0ftwar3> w
[10:55] <parapanghelescu> starnes > I have some files on a mem stick; word, excel, made in Windows; I tried to delete them in Ubuntu; doesnt work; I made chown command ...now it transformed all the files into read-only system file
[10:56] <sanxiyn> parapanghelescu: What chown command did you run?
[10:56] <lecho> a sram na was chuje
[10:56] <Jimi_Neutral> lstarnes, ok copy and pasted yours and now it is saying ivalid password...im having a bad day
[10:56] <lecho> pierdolcie sie
[10:56] <lstarnes> Jimi_Neutral: try without the <'s and >'s
[10:56] <om26er> is there a way to load ubuntu on ram as live cd. my netbooks ssd is very slow and when i used live cd it was very responsive
[10:56] <lstarnes> Jimi_Neutral: or with
[10:57] <Jimi_Neutral> lstarnes, tried without and it worked, ty very much for your time :)
[10:57] <Wikkedfin> say i cgmod my home dir with 700 would this stop other accounts from snooping in others?
[10:57] <om26er> //??
[10:59] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: this will stop your system working (if you are using x-server)
[10:59] <Wikkedfin> ubuntu server
[10:59] <Wikkedfin> no gui
[10:59] <sanxiyn> Wikkedfin: That seems fine to me.
[11:00] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: what you want to stop? that others can access with ssh?
[11:00] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: or with ftp?
[11:00] <sanxiyn> Wikkedfin: With that other uses on the system (other than root) should not be able to access files on your home directory.
[11:00] <Wikkedfin> ok say i have one account names A another B i dont want B to cd.. then do cd A
[11:00] <Wikkedfin> from ssh they can
[11:01] <sanxiyn> Wikkedfin: Yes that works.
[11:01] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: its not working
[11:01] <parapanghelescu> SANXIYN > sudo chown -R user /media/memstick
[11:01] <sanxiyn> iceroot: ?
[11:01] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: because for e.g. apache cant access public_html anymore
[11:02] <iceroot> Wikkedfin: apache is running with www-data not with user
[11:02] <michelinux> when I start the computer, Tomboy loads but won't stay open if I close the main window.
[11:03] <sanxiyn> iceroot: That's assuming he uses public_html... On the other hand, his methodology (chmod to 700) is sound.
[11:03] <iceroot> sanxiyn: chmod 700 is very very bad   using failproject or chroot is better
[11:03] <iceroot> sanxiyn: jailproject
[11:03] <sanxiyn> iceroot: chmod 700 is simple and useful in many scenarios.
[11:04] <iceroot> sanxiyn: its bad like goto
[11:04] <sanxiyn> iceroot: Who cares? (chroot is not worth hassle in my experience)
[11:04] <lf4> Any recomendations on a good app to rip my DVDs to the Hard drive?
[11:04] <iceroot> sanxiyn: who cares?......
[11:05] <sanxiyn> (I use goto when it makes sense, for what it's worth)
[11:06] <Wikkedfin> hey
[11:06] <iceroot> sanxiyn: chmod 700 is just a bad idea. end of discussion :)
[11:06] <Wikkedfin> were not talking same thing here
[11:06] <sanxiyn> No it isn't.
[11:06] <liuweigang> hello
[11:06] <sanxiyn> (But then, this doesn't seem to lead to productive discussion. End of discussion indeed.)
[11:06] <Wikkedfin> i got the public_html working... my other problem i seem to have it i dont want to allow other users to view other user's files
[11:07] <s0ftwar3> w
[11:07] <s0ftwar3> damn
[11:08] <deeflex> hi I have a Team Fortress 2 DVD which mounts directly on one of my Jaunty desktops, while the second one nothing happens. Can't issue any cmd to mount it either.
[11:09] <deeflex> Anyone have experience of this?
[11:10] <Harvey8765> Is there a way I can install ubuntu on an old laptop that doesnt have a cd drive?
[11:11] <cwillu> Harvey8765, usb thumbdrive (you can use another ubuntu install to create one, it's in the menu, not sure if it's on the livecd already)
[11:11] <cwillu> Harvey8765, or wubi if you have an existing windows install, although I'm honestly not a huge wubi fan
[11:12] <cwillu> third option would be a netboot to bootstrap the install, but if you can do that, you can probably make a usb thumbdrive easier
[11:12] <cwillu> finally, you could simply take the drive out, plug it into a machine with a cd drive, install to the drive, and plug it back into the laptop
[11:13] <Harvey8765> oh ok and so let me get this right, im using ubuntu now, i just use usb disk creator and then can instal it from the pen drive on the laptop i have?
[11:13] <Harvey8765> i mean the one i want to install it on
[11:13] <cwillu> yep
[11:13] <Harvey8765> great guys thanks
[11:13] <cwillu> the thumbdrive is exactly like the livecd
[11:13] <Harvey8765> wow thanks
[11:14] <snitko> hi, why could it be that ufw does not block an ip? I created a rule with "ufw deny from <ip>" but it still passes the request from the ip. wtf?
[11:14] <Rajko> hello, how do i remove and reinstall entire LAMP package on ubuntu server ?
[11:14] <Harvey8765> thanks cwillu
[11:15] <cwillu> snitko, is the connection already established when you turn on the firewall rule?
[11:15] <szczur> hi guys
[11:15] <cwillu> Rajko, by reinstalling the individual packages.  Having said that, why do you want to do that?
[11:16] <Rajko> i deleted /etc/apache2
[11:16] <snitko> cwillu: yes
[11:16] <Rajko> i want the config files remade
[11:16] <szczur> i have small problem
[11:16] <cwillu> Rajko, just purge and reinstall apache2 then
[11:16] <Jyxt> Rajko: dont need to remove/reinstall the whole thing, just apache
[11:16] <Rajko> how
[11:16] <Rajko> it doesnt recreate
[11:16] <Jyxt> sudo apt-get install apache i would imagine
[11:16] <cwillu> purge it (from synaptic, it's the complete removal, from apt-get it's remove --purge
[11:16] <Rajko> oh
[11:17] <cwillu> --help is useful for these things :p
[11:17] <szczur> when i'm trying to install nvidia 71 series driver i got such error ---> http://wklej.org/id/107011/
[11:17] <szczur> what should i do?
[11:17] <chinosuke> I cannot run language support
[11:18] <chinosuke> I cannot run language support (system -> admin -> lang support). When the program start it show  checking available language and disappear after checking
[11:19] <Wikkedfin> is there a command to view all past commands done in a shell
[11:19] <Jyxt> Wikkedfin: press the up arrow key
[11:19] <cwillu> Wikkedfin, only what bash has logged: ~/.bash_history
[11:19] <Jyxt> or look at .bash_history
[11:20] <Wikkedfin> ya i tried the up key
[11:20] <cwillu> not fool-proof for forensic purposes though
[11:20] <Wikkedfin> its too far back
[11:20] <Jyxt> look in .bash_history, i think by default it saves the last 100 commands?
[11:20] <cwillu> won't be in .bash_history either then :/
[11:20] <cwillu> well, it might actually, ya
[11:20] <Rajko> root@lin:/etc/apache2# cd /etc/apache2
[11:20] <Rajko> root@lin:/etc/apache2# ls
[11:20] <Rajko> mods-available
[11:21] <Rajko> the config files still arent recreated...
[11:21] <cwillu> Rajko, may need to do the same for any other apache2-* packages
[11:22] <Rajko> oh its -common
[11:23] <Wikkedfin> i thought there was a easy way to lock users in their home dir's
[11:27] <innociv> how do i run a deb file?
[11:27] <lstarnes> innociv: you don't run it
[11:27] <innociv> well what do i do with it? or do i not use on ubuntu?
[11:28] <lstarnes> innociv: you open it with dkpg or a package manager
[11:28] <lstarnes> *dpkg
[11:28] <innociv> i tried sudo dpkg filename.deb
[11:28] <whazilla> http://nopaste.info/542550e3b3.html
[11:28] <lstarnes> innociv: try dpkg -i
[11:28] <whazilla> howcomes ubuntu now protects bufferunderruns ? i cant run my toolchain :(
[11:28] <whazilla> is this linux
[11:28] <whazilla> or human beings ?
[11:29] <innociv> Errors were encountered while processing:ibsh
[11:29] <innociv> and more..
[11:29] <reenignEesreveR> anybody uses mediabuntu? Im having trouble with sound using ffmpe
[11:29] <malte1> what do you all think about moblin 2.0 ?
[11:29] <whazilla> AnyOne ur welcome
[11:29] <whazilla> human beans
[11:29] <rikki_max> yeah it doesn't return anything
[11:30] <whazilla> oh lamers
[11:30] <innociv> ibsh depends on build-essential; however:Package build-essential is not installed.
[11:31] <whazilla> und das lemming
[11:31] <usser> malakhi, moblin is awesome
[11:31] <innociv> is there an easy way to  install this?
[11:31] <usser> reenignEesreveR, whats the problem with ffmpeg?
[11:31] <lstarnes> whazilla: why would that toolchain need to have a system that lacks that protection?
[11:31] <reenignEesreveR> usser, im not having any sound while producing flv
[11:31] <lstarnes> innociv: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:31] <whazilla> becuz the toolchain consist of buffer underruns prolly ?
[11:31] <whazilla> psptoolchain
[11:31] <whazilla> pspdev tools
[11:32] <oenone1> hellow
[11:32] <usser> reenignEesreveR, flv uses mp3 as a sound, did you install ffmpeg from medibuntu?
[11:32] <malte1> I think about installing moblin on my netbook
[11:32] <reenignEesreveR> usser, yes
[11:32] <usser> reenignEesreveR, ffmpeg from default repos is crippled
[11:32] <oenone1> can I ask if I can have a downlaod manager for rapidshre in ubuntu ?
[11:32] <whazilla> lstarnes: what would be welcome would be a wy to circumvent or dible the ssp
[11:32] <whazilla> pro police pckage
[11:32] <usser> reenignEesreveR, whats the command that you use to convert?
[11:32] <whazilla> the kraken are progressin
[11:32] <innociv> ty
[11:32] <whazilla> there playing good cop bad cop in my street and always hve there sirenes on
[11:32] <whazilla> damn underwater world
[11:33] <oenone1> is there a download manager for rapidshre in ubuntu
[11:33] <reenignEesreveR> usser, I've installed using this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=911849
[11:33]  * usser its just like andy always said, get busy living, or get busy kraken
[11:33] <NET||abuse> anyone got an ubuntuone account?
[11:34] <whazilla> ltcabral: what could u advise me to try ? against ssp pro police bufferunderrun deniemend package ?N
[11:34] <whazilla> i had this problem once before
[11:34] <usser> reenignEesreveR, do you have 'hardy' or did you adjust the guide to jaunty?
[11:34] <whazilla> it was fixed by valgrinding the tarball called ubuntu for alians
[11:34] <innociv> ugh..
[11:34] <innociv> jailkit i coudln't get working
[11:34] <innociv> iron bars shell has no documentation
[11:35] <sjokkis> when i first installed ubuntu i set up encryption with LVM on top of that. something like this: http://pastebin.com/me91318d . now when i try to install ubuntu fresh from a cd it won't let me wipe and overwrite that root partition, but will only let me wipe and overwrite the whole drive, which would delete all my stuff in home. is there some way around this?
[11:35] <Rajko> i have installed phpmyadmin with apt-get install phpmyadmin
[11:35] <Rajko> how do i access it
[11:35] <usser> reenignEesreveR, did you have ffmpeg installed before you went with medibuntu, if yes you need to purge all ffmpeg-related packages since they dont uninstall automatically when you do sudo apt-get remove ffmpeg
[11:35] <lstarnes> Rajko: http://localhost/phpmyadmin ?
[11:35] <whazilla> lstarnes: no clues against bufferunderun ssp ?
[11:35] <lstarnes> whazilla: I have no idea
[11:36] <om26er> is there a good download manager like dap
[11:36] <reenignEesreveR> usser, i have hardy. How do i uninstall everything?
[11:36] <whazilla> pro police package ss ==> buffe"runderrun gotcha
[11:36] <whazilla> no place for avelldiroll  lib like that in linux
[11:36] <usser> reenignEesreveR, just search synaptic for ffmpeg and uninstall all related, ones i remember is libavformat
[11:36] <ee99ee2> sorry, off topic... but is google down for anyone or just me?
[11:36] <usser> reenignEesreveR, theres a couple of others named the same way, libavcodec and such
[11:37] <reenignEesreveR> ee99ee2, google seems to be working
[11:37] <jrib> ee99ee2: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[11:37] <reenignEesreveR> usser, doesn't mediabuntu override them?
[11:37] <usser> reenignEesreveR, for some reason no
[11:37] <ee99ee2> jrib: amazing. thank you
[11:37] <reenignEesreveR> usser, whats the command to search for already installed ffmpeg* packages?
[11:37] <usser> reenignEesreveR, instead of those you need libavcodec-unstripped and all the rest
[11:37] <whazilla> ussr u will make promotion in the next big one ==> -
[11:37] <NET||abuse> ee99ee2, just for you.
[11:38] <whazilla> 11_19
[11:38] <usser> reenignEesreveR, in synaptic just search for ffmpeg
[11:38] <jrib> reenignEesreveR: aptitude search '~i~nffmpeg'
[11:38] <usser> reenignEesreveR, or dpkg -l | grep ffmpeg
[11:38] <om26er> plz tell me any good download accelerator
[11:38] <innociv> http://www.cryptolife.org/index.php/Lock_users_in_the_home_directory found something.. i have no /etc/password.  What should I be lookng for?
[11:38] <jrib> om26er: axel?
[11:38] <jrib> innociv: why do you think you should have a /etc/password?
[11:39] <Boohbah> innociv: /etc/passwd
[11:39] <innociv> i dont have that either
[11:39] <reenignEesreveR> jrib, what does the "~i~" signify?
[11:39] <innociv> ahh just passwd
[11:39] <jrib> reenignEesreveR: installed
[11:39] <innociv> hm but it's empty..
[11:39] <tawann> Any Mint users here?
[11:40] <jrib> reenignEesreveR: well ~i is installed, ~n is name
[11:40] <jrib> !mint | tawann
[11:40] <reenignEesreveR> jrib, thanks
[11:40] <tawann> jrib, I'm not after support just to ask if Mint users are here ;)
[11:40] <usser> tawann, they are, but they are hiding
[11:40] <Jyxt> an empty /etc/passwd is not a good thing
[11:41] <tawann> jrib, I am an Op on LinuxMint
[11:41] <innociv> wtf... i'm getting chroot: cannot change root directory to rph:rph: No such file or directory
[11:41] <innociv>   too.  It's telling me no directory when I tabbed the correct one
[11:41] <Boohbah> innociv: if /etc/passwd is empty then you have problems
[11:41] <jrib> tawann: but this channel is for ubuntu support... try #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:41] <innociv> nvm it's there.
[11:41] <om26er> any good download manager
[11:41] <Boohbah> om26er: wget
[11:41] <usser> om26er, kget, wget
[11:42] <Jyxt> flashget exension for firefox?
[11:44] <innociv> well ironbars shell works except.. sftp doesn't work with it :\
[11:44] <innociv> anyone know what i need to do to make it work?..
[11:44] <ajinkya> i hav xp and hav broadband via USB  , i  have ubuntu in separate hard disk , so...shall broadband work in ubuntu via USB ?
[11:45] <whazilla> if u configure ur usb device
[11:45] <innociv> why don't you get an ethernet card?.
[11:45] <ajinkya> how much does that cost ?
[11:45] <innociv> $10
[11:45] <ajinkya> but can it b connected via USB ?
[11:46] <innociv> your internet would be faster than with usb..
[11:46] <innociv> um.. no..
[11:46] <innociv> i dont understand why you have internet going through usb though
[11:46] <ajinkya> ohh
[11:46] <innociv> i've only heard bad things about that
[11:46] <ajinkya> actually i have aa modem ,
[11:46] <ajinkya> i hav purchased it , it has
[11:47] <ajinkya> both ethernet  n usb connections
[11:47] <ajinkya> but i dont have pc LAN card
[11:47] <ajinkya> so.... can i downlaod drivers for ubuntu ? then , but how do i connect thru ubuntu then ?
[11:48] <ajinkya> any ideas ?
[11:48] <ajinkya> soln ?
[11:49] <innociv> why is sudo chown rph:rph /home/dir not changing it off of root:root?
[11:50] <tyson_> hello everyone
[11:51] <tyson_> i tryied to connect my Vaio laptop to a 32" TV and i do not get the resolution i need. what can i do
[11:51] <innociv> nvm it is.. wtf..
[11:51] <tyson_> !resolution
[11:51] <innociv> ugh how do i uninstall jailkit? it's screwe d everything up -_-
[11:53] <innociv> no one can even access my site now
[11:55] <innociv> can someone help?    Even if it's a webserver and I'm not running any GUI stuff?
[11:56] <innociv> all my permissiosn are 000!
[11:57] <harahauk> innociv: if you have root on the box you can just set new permissions
[11:57] <innociv> i do
[11:57] <harahauk> if you dont id contact the sysadmin
[11:57] <innociv> how do i set it for all things after that folder?
[11:57] <innociv> subfolders
[11:58] <harahauk> innociv: "sudo chmod -R u+rwx /var/www" will work
[11:58] <mobi-sheep> Recursively.
[11:59] <harahauk> the -R is for all subfolders
[11:59] <Aju> hi...
[11:59] <harahauk> innociv: if you want it to be readable by everyone do a+r instead of u+rwx
[11:59] <Aju> any one can tell how to chat in linux like googlechat
[11:59] <innociv> chmod: cannot access `u+rwx': No such file or directory
[12:00] <vegombrei> hi whats a good bulk file renaming package?
[12:00] <Aju> helooooooooooall
[12:01] <innociv> WTF!!!!!!
[12:01] <anodesni> I'm looking for a way to turn off my 2nd monitor from command line, xset dpms off works, but shuts down both monitors.
[12:01] <vegombrei> Aju: hi
[12:01] <harahauk> innociv: did you enter the command exactly as i told you?
[12:01] <innociv> server returned epty listing for the directory
[12:01] <innociv> all my files got wiped from there!
[12:01] <harahauk> innociv: chmod does not delete your files, dont worry, they are stil in /var/www
[12:01] <Jyxt> Aju: install pidgin?
[12:02] <whazilla> hackattack
[12:02] <innociv> everything got wiped out..
[12:02] <innociv> hack from what?
[12:02] <simplexio> anodesni: something like xset localhost:0.1 may work
[12:02] <innociv> why did they just do this directory instead of everytihng?
[12:02] <whazilla> from foobar with love ;)
[12:02] <simplexio> anodesni: im not sure about syntax
[12:02] <vegombrei> hi whats a good bulk file renaming package?
[12:03] <simplexio> vegombrei: from command line, rename
[12:03] <Aju> thanks ..jyxt
[12:03] <simplexio> vegombrei: just google about regexp and its easy.
[12:03] <vegombrei> simplexio: wow please show me how
[12:03] <harahauk> innociv: they propably hacked you through a php vulnerability or something related to your webserver, since your webserver only has write acces in the webserver directories thats propably all they got too
[12:03] <whazilla> from foobar with love ;)
[12:03] <deany> vegombrei, there is a function in gthumb thats quite nice, which I use..
[12:03] <anodesni> simplexio, again both monitor shut down
[12:03] <innociv> my mysql databases are gone too it seems
[12:04] <vegombrei> deany: is it simple and to the point?
[12:04] <deany> vegombrei, gthumb is an image viewer/
[12:04] <innociv> oh wait no just phpmyadmin is gone i guess
[12:04] <deany> vegombrei, yes
[12:04] <innociv> /home/dir/public is gone
[12:04] <innociv> so is home/dir/logs
[12:04] <whazilla> ~miss kitt and the hack - homework 82
[12:04] <whazilla> ~miss kitt and the hack - homework
[12:04] <whazilla> from foobar with love ;)
[12:04] <vegombrei> deany: so if i install gthumb i'd be able to rename thousands of files at once?
[12:05] <innociv> and when i try to log in with this user
[12:05] <innociv> it says ..
[12:05] <whazilla> misfitz till the end
[12:05] <vegombrei> deany: suado apt-get?
[12:05] <innociv> Cannot initialize SFTP protocol. Is the host running a SFTP server?
[12:05] <simplexio> vegombrei: man rename, google perl regexp tutorial, read lern and love it
[12:05] <innociv> i was trying to use jailkit and iron bars shell
[12:06] <innociv> anyone know how i uninstall them? -_-
[12:06] <harahauk> innociv: try to browse the directories from ssh, change password on your user
[12:06] <innociv> ohhh
[12:06] <innociv> yeah i still see them on ssh
[12:06] <vegombrei> deany: ?
[12:06] <innociv> so it must be jailkit or iron bars shell..
[12:07] <innociv> now how am i supposed to fix? :\
[12:07] <harahauk> innociv: then its propably just a permissions issue
[12:07] <innociv> well how do i chmod 755 it all?
[12:07] <innociv> sudo chmod 755 -R dir?
[12:07] <harahauk> innociv: yep
[12:08] <stefano> hi, I'm trying to install a deb. package with $ sudo dpkg -i linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.50_i386.deb but it says that it's impossible to configure the package due to a dependancies problem...
[12:08] <_PiLoT_> anyone here having troubling getting flash content through firefox
[12:08] <vegombrei> has anyone used thunar?
[12:08] <_PiLoT_> im  trying to go to the star trek movie site but the screen stays black instead of loading
[12:09] <om26er> does wget have firefox extension
[12:09] <innociv> ty yeah it's all there and fine
[12:09] <vegombrei> _PiLoT_: try updating firefox and its plugins
[12:09] <mits> hi... my usb flash drive write speed is much lower on linux than on windows... (1-4mb/s vs 7-10mb/s) any ideas why is that so?
[12:09] <_PiLoT_> i have the flash plugins and all that jazz
[12:09] <innociv> well can someone help me with how i can lock a user ina  directory?  So they can't go back and look through and read things they shouldn't?
[12:10] <_PiLoT_> whats the latest build?
[12:10] <vegombrei> mits: windows lies
[12:10] <jrib> innociv: read the debian docs on creating a chroot jail I suppose
[12:10] <innociv> what about if i used subversion?
[12:10] <deany> vegombrei, yes  sudo apt-get install gthumb
[12:11] <mits> vegombrei: well it also seems much faster on windows... haven't actually timed it yet
[12:11] <_PiLoT_> i have
[12:11] <_PiLoT_> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/2009042523 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.10
[12:11] <jrib> innociv: version control?  In what way...
[12:11] <innociv> well isn't it used for updating files on a server?
[12:11] <jrib> innociv: huh?
[12:11] <stefano> nevermind
[12:11] <indus> hi
[12:12] <innociv> eh i dont know :(
[12:13] <kelli> how do i delete completly files from my hd?
[12:13] <we_are_138> format c: :P
[12:13] <macvr>  hi all... i did an inplace upgrade of the ext3 drive to ext4... but i'v noticed considerable drop in system performance... so inorder to refresh the ext3 files as ext4 would a reinstall of the packages do the trick or has anyone tried e4defrag?
[12:14] <grawity> we_are_138: That hasn't worked since Windows 3.11
[12:14] <harahauk> innociv: you can read the man page for chmod
[12:14] <grawity> we_are_138: (I tried)
[12:14] <harahauk> it will teach you how to do what you seek
[12:14] <harahauk> "man chmod"
[12:14] <we_are_138> grawity, try harder :)
[12:14] <innociv> the man page for chmod tells how to jail users? o_O
[12:14] <harahauk> innociv: you jail users by setting the correct permissions on what they should not see=)
[12:15] <joaopinto> macvr, if you are looking for performance improvement, it is recommended to do a clean ext4 file system creation, not the upgrade
[12:15] <grawity> we_are_138: *installs Win95 to a VM* brb
[12:15] <innociv> but if they can't read index.html then nor can people viewing a website, harahauk
[12:15] <we_are_138> grawity, c u)))
[12:15] <innociv> IE i have home/website/public/jaileddir
[12:15] <matthias2> Hi, I have a question concerning Ubuntu x64 and 32bit. Is there a way to turn your 64bit installation to a 32bit installation (like changing something in synaptics or so), I do not want to make a complete new installation with CD, but my modem-driver (agrms or so) only works on 32bit and I need the modem in the holidays, any ideas?
[12:15] <innociv> also in public is files everyone needs to be able to read
[12:15] <FeasibilityStudy> kelli shred -z -n 1 /dev/sdx
[12:15] <Jyxt> matthias2: better to just reinstall if your changing from 64 to 32 or vice versa
[12:16] <joaopinto> Matthai, you can't use 32 bits drivers on a 64 bits install, you will need to do a reinstall
[12:16] <matthias2> no other way?
[12:16] <joaopinto> no
[12:16] <matthias2> okay thx
[12:16] <ryblade> How can i change themes in Xubuntu Jaunty Jackalope?
[12:16] <harahauk> innociv: what exactly do you want?:) should it be readable or not?
[12:16] <joaopinto> ryblade, try asking on #xubuntu
[12:16] <ryblade> ok ty
[12:16] <grawity> ryblade: Applications -> Settings -> Appearance, IIRC.
[12:16] <macvr> joaopinto: i'v already done the upgrade! now what do i do? is reinstall only my other option?
[12:16] <innociv> harahauk, yes because if index.html isn't readable by all then people viewing website can't.. view anything :)
[12:17] <joaopinto> macvr, is your best option, or just backup/restore after recreating the file system
[12:17] <Aju> hi..my..pidgin...getting currently suspended
[12:17] <Aju> bb
[12:17] <Jyxt> macvr: the 32 bit modem driver doesn't work?
[12:17] <joaopinto> macvr, and make sure you recreate the filesystem, is not just about reinstalling packages
[12:17] <Aju> nj
[12:17] <innociv> or php files is a better example
[12:17] <{g}> Hey People! I have a file on disk that is owned by user "user" and group "group". When I open it as "user" or even as "root" with openoffice, its read only. Only when I give write permissions for everybody "chmod a+w" i can open it normally. Any ideas? I got this problem only with Ubuntu 9. With Ubuntu 7 all was fine.
[12:17] <innociv> people need to be able to view the php files, harahauk, but not the person logged onto sftp able to see its source
[12:18] <harahauk> innociv: ah!
[12:18] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} what permissions do you want it to have
[12:18] <Jyxt> macvr: that was directed at someone else :P
[12:18] <macvr> joaopinto: aw! man should have stuck with ext3 :(
[12:18] <innociv> ya
[12:18] <bigboss> hello people! anyone know a guide that explain how to install windows on an ubuntu pc?
[12:18] <macvr> Jyxt: realized that :)
[12:18] <rob_p> innociv, Have you looked into the scponly shell?
[12:18] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: the permissions it has are "-rw-rw-r--" that should be enough for root to write to it, right?
[12:18] <Jyxt> bigboss: google?
[12:18] <innociv> nope.. i looked into jailkit and iron bars shell and couldn't get them working
[12:18] <koshari> bigboss in a Vm or dua boot
[12:18] <joaopinto> bigboss, if you mean virtualized windows, there are plenty tutorials on the internet, try google.com
[12:18] <Jyxt> google "ubuntu windows dual boot"
[12:18] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} root can write to anything, no matter permissions
[12:19] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: openoffice opens it readonly unless i give it "-rw-rw-rw-"
[12:19] <joaopinto> bigboss, there is no such thing as "ubuntu pc", you may have  a PC with Ubuntu installed
[12:19] <erdem-uubuntu> hi everyone,  which kernel has ubuntu 9.10 alfa2  ???
[12:19] <rob_p> innociv, Not sure if it works with sftp as well but it wouldn't surprise me if it did.  I know it works with scp (both use SSH protocols).
[12:19] <bigboss> nono i mean a dual boot install, cause i need it for games.... however yes, a pc with ubuntu installed... sorry 4 my english
[12:19] <zaggynl> Anyone else have this flashing issue when using wine in ubuntu?
[12:19] <koshari> erdem-uubuntu kernel sandurs
[12:19] <joaopinto> erdem-uubuntu, 2.6.30
[12:20] <erdem-uubuntu> well =))
[12:20] <innociv> hmm...
[12:20] <innociv> im weary about trying to set another of these up without help ;(
[12:20] <innociv> jailkit gave errors on install and i couldnt' get it working, and what setup told me to do screwed everything up
[12:20] <harahauk> innociv: as long as you allow ppl to log in to your server they will always be able to read your php code
[12:20] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} does your username own the file?
[12:20] <Jyxt> bigboss: yes, google search terms "ubuntu windows dual boot"
[12:20] <Jyxt> first couple hits should help yout out
[12:20] <innociv> harahauk? Hmmm?  Php is server side code
[12:20] <innociv> it generates html
[12:21] <innociv> people only see the html
[12:21] <Aju> hi..my media player not working
[12:21] <Jyxt> innociv: unless you have access to server, then you can see the source
[12:21] <harahauk> innociv: yes, but if you allow other users to ssh to the server, theres nothing you can do afaik to shield the code from prying eyes
[12:21] <bigboss> Jyxt, but i can only find people that install ubuntu on a windows pc
[12:21] <grawity> innociv: But if they can login to the shell (or grab the file with ftp/sftp)...
[12:21] <innociv> how?... so someone can view source to see my mysql info?..
[12:21] <harahauk> you can chmod the dir to not allow listings, but still if they know the filename its easy
[12:21] <innociv> oh
[12:21] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: yes, if i "su user" then i am user. but user gets it in readonly mode as well. so is root. the files owner is "user".
[12:21] <innociv> i thoguht you meant people just connecting with a browser
[12:21] <rob_p> innociv, The scponly shell is as easy as, "sudo apt-get install scponly" and then setting the user's shell to, "/usr/bin/scponly" in /etc/passwd.
[12:21] <innociv> and not knowing sftp login
[12:22] <innociv> rob, so they won't be able to go back out from their homedir?
[12:22] <Jyxt> bigboss: second hit with search term "ubuntu windows dual boot"
[12:22] <Jyxt> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[12:22] <harahauk> innociv: anyone who has access to the file system on your box will be able to see your php code :/
[12:22] <innociv> harahauk, well that's what im trying to do..
[12:22] <innociv> is not let them have access to all the files on my box
[12:22] <innociv> I don't want anyone that logs in with sftp to see all my source code, files, etc.
[12:23] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} which user owns it?
[12:23] <harahauk> innociv: that cant be done afaik
[12:23] <innociv> i thought that's what jailkit is supposed to do?
[12:23] <Jyxt> innociv: chroot jail?
[12:23] <innociv> keep people from reading things out side their dir
[12:23] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: the users name is "user".
[12:23] <innociv> rob_p, does scponly do this?..
[12:23] <bigboss> Jyxt, i think i have different results on google cause a use goole.it... i'll try with google.com
[12:23] <rob_p> innociv, Basically it limits them to utilizing scp for access to the server.  I guess you probably want some sort of chroot environment in which to jail the users.
[12:23] <ryblade> how can i install download themes in Xubuntu Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 (No answers in xubuntu Channel)
[12:23] <macvr> joaopinto: final doubt... does writing over a present file change anything? [like move it to differnt location and copying over it again?]
[12:23] <rob_p> innociv, It's a good start but maybe not exactly what you are looking for.
[12:24] <innociv> yeah not sounding like it :(
[12:24] <harahauk> innociv: i dont know what jailkit does, hope it works out for you:)
[12:24] <innociv> i couldn't get jailkit working :\
[12:24] <joaopinto> macvr, no, because mv does not do a physical move, it just changes the file location on directory listing
[12:25] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: "sudo -u user openoffice.org letter.doc" => read only
[12:25] <rob_p> innociv, I've never messed with jailkit.  But I have manually set up chroot environments for things.
[12:25] <innociv> i got python 2.1 errors or somethign trying to install jailkit
[12:25] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: "$root openoffice.org letter.doc" => read only
[12:25] <macvr> joaopinto: to different partition also same?
[12:25] <bigboss> Jyxt, the second hit is about installing ubuntu on a pc with xp installed frist
[12:26] <Jyxt> innociv: i know with the latest openssh you can restrict users to using only sftp, only ssh only certain directories commands etc
[12:26] <Jyxt> check this link
[12:26] <Jyxt> http://rothwerx.com/node/8
[12:26] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} try to chown the file to your username.
[12:26] <Jyxt> matter of adding some options to the sshd_config and restarting the ssh server
[12:26] <joaopinto> macvr, like I said, your best option is to recreate the filesystem, don't waste more time with work arounds, you already did tha when you decided to upgrade the fs :)
[12:26] <innociv> wellll them only using sftp is nice and all, but they can still click the folder back button on sftp..
[12:26] <Jyxt> bigboss: check that link i posted for you...or visit that second link, they have another tutorial for linux first
[12:26] <macvr> joaopinto: ok... :) thanx for the info...
[12:27] <Jyxt> innociv: check this link http://rothwerx.com/node/8
[12:27] <innociv> i did.
[12:27] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: "chown root:root letter.doc; openoffice.org letter.doc" => read/write mode
[12:27] <rob_p> innociv, I can't vouch for the accuracy, but here's a tutorial for Ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248724
[12:27] <bigboss> Jyxt, sorry i didnt see the link befor, i'll check it now. Thanks alot!
[12:27] <joaopinto> innociv, whatever you want to do is just a metter of setting the web dirs unreadable by the sftp users, it is just a matter of dir permissions
[12:27] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} dont chown it to root..chown it to your user name
[12:27] <innociv> rob, treidi ti  get errors on install about python 2.1 or somehting
[12:27] <rob_p> innociv, perhaps you already found that...
[12:27] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: i am root
[12:27] <rob_p> innociv, What errors did you get?
[12:28] <Jyxt> bigboss: no problem
[12:28] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} you should not be root.  WHY are you root?
[12:28] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: "chown user:user letter.doc; openoffice.org letter.doc" => read only
[12:29] <innociv> Jyxt, so this like replaces the sshd thing or what?
[12:29] <innociv> or adds to it?
[12:29] <Jyxt> innociv: hrm...did you read the whole thing :P
[12:29] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: "chown user:user letter.doc; su user; openoffice.org letter.doc" => read only
[12:29] <Jyxt> sshd is a daemon, part of openssh usually...if you have openssh 5+ you can just edit the sshd_config and add some lines to it
[12:29] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} now that it is owned by you, chmod the permissions to what you want.  If you only want your user to have access, then do chown 700 letter.doc
[12:29] <Jyxt> /etc/ssh/sshd_config usually
[12:30] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: "user" cannot open in rw mode unless i "chmod a+w" the file.
[12:30] <innociv> i did but i'm dumb :(  This won't effect my current groups, right?  Currently this tree of folders is rph:rph.    Is the file owned by your username or not?  If not, then chown it...Once done, then chmod 700
[12:30] <yma> all my fonts display as square now
[12:30] <Jyxt> innociv: yes that should work...in theory all your changing is ssh permissions etc
[12:30] <yma> can any of you help
[12:31] <ryblade> ntu Channel
[12:31] <rob_p> innociv, Jyxt, That looks promising.  I was unaware that OpenSSH had that capability!
[12:31] <yma> menu, fonts, login all missing font
[12:31] <Jyxt> rob_p: yes its pretty slick
[12:31] <ryblade> how can i install download themes in xubuntu Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 (No answers in Xubuntu Channel)
[12:31] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: then i get "read only". thats what i have been telling you from the start.
[12:31] <rob_p> Jyxt, How long has it supported user jails?
[12:32] <yma> how do i reinstall ubuntu font packages
[12:32] <yma> anyone help ?
[12:32] <yma> <<[12:32] <vegombrei> yma: tried synaptic?
[12:32] <yma> i can't see anything
[12:32] <yma> can't use gui
[12:32] <Jyxt> rob_p: good question, i just learned about that like 2 months ago
[12:32] <yma> becaues all fonts = square
[12:32] <yma> i'm typign from tty2 atm
[12:32] <boss_mc> yma: ctrl + alt + f1
[12:32] <yma> yes?
[12:32] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} so you get that when chmoding the file as both your user and root?
[12:33] <Jyxt> maybe less...was setting up keyless entry and i know you can restrict commands with keyless entry...in my research to jail i came across that feature
[12:33] <yma> boos_mc
[12:33] <yma> boss_mc help
[12:33] <boss_mc> yma: then use sudo aptitude for a cli package manager
[12:33] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: no, chmoding to root all is fine.
[12:33] <yma> okay
[12:33] <yma> but which packages
[12:33] <rob_p> Jyxt, Nice.  Well thanks for the suggestion.  I will definitely add that to my knowledge-base after I've played with it a bit and know more about it.
[12:33] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: then root can normally open the file rw.
[12:33] <boss_mc> yma good question
[12:33] <robyblues88> hi all
[12:33] <yma> D:
[12:34] <adac> Can someone point me to a good installation howto for installing git versioning tool on ubuntu?
[12:34] <yma> adac
[12:34] <yma> do
[12:34] <yma> sudo apt-get install git-core
[12:34] <ryblade> how can i install download themes in xubuntu Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 (No answers in Xubuntu Channel)
[12:35] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} do this:  sudo chmod 766 letter.doc   See if that will allow your user to write the file.
[12:35] <boss_mc> yma: http://pastebin.com/f3af1ea36
[12:35] <Jyxt> err not keyless entry, passwordless entry
[12:35] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} or if your user is in the group, then chmod 760
[12:35] <boss_mc> yma: that's what I've got installed
[12:35] <Adola> Can set one help me set up chroot?
[12:36] <yma> boss_mc
[12:36] <yma> thx
[12:36] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: i tend to think its a bug in OO.
[12:36] <{g}> FeasibilityStudy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/215420
[12:36] <yma> are you on jaunty
[12:36] <boss_mc> yma try sudo fc-cache -f -v first
[12:36] <FeasibilityStudy> {g} maybe.  Because it seems you have done everything right
[12:36] <robyblues88> how to install themes in 9.04?
[12:36] <boss_mc> yma It rebuilds the font cache
[12:37] <yma> okay
[12:37] <yma> i will try this
[12:37] <boss_mc> sudo fc-cache -f -v
[12:37] <yma> 2 sec
[12:37] <bigboss> if do i resize my partition of an HDD with ext4 with a 8.10 live cd, will i have problems?
[12:37] <Jyxt> Adola: you dont really setup chroot, you just kind of do it
[12:37] <Jyxt> unless your talking chroot jails?
[12:38] <yma> same thing
[12:38] <Jyxt> like chroot /mnt/bleh /bin/bash
[12:38] <yma> still square :(
[12:38] <yma> should i have killed gnome before rebuild font cache
[12:39] <Adola> NO, like, I think I set up a 32bit chroot in a 64 bit os
[12:39] <Jyxt> ahh
[12:39] <Adola> I started to install aprogram, but, it failed with this error
[12:40] <we_are_138> guys, what do you think about opera unite?
[12:40] <Jyxt> not sure in ubuntu...but take a look at this link Adola http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1&chap=2
[12:40] <Jyxt> describes how to setup 32 bit chroot in 64 bit OS...instructions *should* be the same for ubuntu given its linux and all
[12:40] <Jyxt> maybe some minor changes
[12:41] <openros>  in a running system, can i unmount the /usr partition and resize it and mount it again. with no prob....
[12:41] <Adola> http://pastebin.com/m7a131ea9
[12:42] <Jyxt> openros: probably not i would say
[12:42] <Jyxt> most likely you wont be able to unmount it, or once you do unmount it you wont be able to resize it
[12:42] <Jyxt> as whatever binaries to do the resiving are in /usr
[12:43] <ayo> what package supports to play mp3?
[12:43] <MikeChelen> ayo, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:43] <iElectric> guys, is it possible to install vim compiled with python 2.5?
[12:44] <openros> Jyxt, yes, i do understand, there are few binaries in the /usr partion.... But i need to resize the /usr partition. Can i not do it with out reboot
[12:44] <CosmicChaos> hello i have a problem with suspend/hibernate/energysaving-mode. The problem is that on S3 (suspend, energy-saving triggered by ubuntu) does not turn my VGA back on, i tried bios vga invoke on s3 enabled that didn't helped. so i tried the hibernate function, that worked. now i dont know how to switch the time-sheduled energy-saving mode to hibernate. pretty please help me, i need a hint.
[12:44] <om26er> is there any application in ubuntu to make bootable usb
[12:44] <Jyxt> om26er: yes...should be in your system menu i think?
[12:44] <ayo> MikeChelen, what should be apt-get install in order to play mp3 in firefox?
[12:44] <MikeChelen> !usb | om26er
[12:45] <asmund> I want to backup my F-spot library to DVD's. Any good burning software that can automagically spread the library ofer several discs?
[12:45] <om26er> name the software i will install it
[12:45] <Jyxt> om26er: system or the other S menu has an option to create live usb
[12:45] <arsem> hai
[12:45] <Jyxt> om26er: should already be installed?
[12:45] <arsem> ha
[12:45] <Jyxt> least it is on my xubunut 9.04
[12:45] <arsem> hai
[12:45] <iElectric> guys, is it possible to install vim compiled with python 2.5?
[12:45] <CosmicChaos> please help me
[12:45] <openros> Jyxt: i know it is possible to do by booting with a Ubuntu Live cd... but is there any way with out rebooting the system
[12:46] <MikeChelen> ayo, did restricted extras install okay?
[12:46] <Jyxt> openros: guess you could copy the binary from /usr to somewhere else...umount /usr
[12:46] <iElectric> on 9.04 it comes with 2.6 support
[12:46] <lucas_> hey
[12:46] <Jyxt> like cp /usr/bin/whateverbinaryyourusingtorepartition ~/whatever
[12:46] <Jyxt> then do ~/whatever
[12:46] <whazilla> i hate *9.4
[12:47] <MikeChelen> !ask | lucas_
[12:47] <lucas_> i need xorg configuration file example for compiz on ubuntu
[12:47] <lstarnes> iElectric: I don't think there is a way to get vim with python 2.5 in that version of ubuntu
[12:47] <lucas_> can someone gives a source for that
[12:47] <CosmicChaos> cn anyone here me please reply
[12:47] <iElectric> that's sick
[12:47] <try2free> hi
[12:47] <try2free> please help to translate iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:3128 into shorewall
[12:47] <CosmicChaos> hello i have a problem with suspend/hibernate/energysaving-mode. The problem is that on S3 (suspend, energy-saving triggered by ubuntu) does not turn my VGA back on, i tried bios vga invoke on s3 enabled that didn't helped. so i tried the hibernate function, that worked. now i dont know how to switch the time-sheduled energy-saving mode to hibernate. pretty please help me, i need a hint.
[12:47] <MikeChelen> !repeat | CosmicChaos
[12:47] <openros> Jyxt: Iam accessing a machine in remote using ssh, and i want to resize the /usr partion remotely using the parted command. Is is safe to do so
[12:47] <CosmicChaos> Mike ok sry
[12:48] <ayo> MikeChelen, not install yet, it
[12:48] <ayo> MikeChelen, it's large, over 38M
[12:48] <MikeChelen> ayo, ok try "vlc" package then
[12:49] <MikeChelen> openros, the partition must be unmounted first
[12:49] <Jyxt> openros: yeah like i said though, if the parted binary is on /usr you wont be able to run parted
[12:49] <Jyxt> you'll get command not found
[12:49] <Jyxt> other than that minor issue you shouldnt have any problems
[12:49] <MikeChelen> openros, create an additional partition first and copy /usr over
[12:50] <Jyxt> though resizing partitions with files on it is always a tricky thing...i'd backup /usr before doing any resizing
[12:50] <Jyxt> you could really backup /usr to another partition, umount /usr...mount your new /usr...resize the old /usr...then unmount that new /usr and remount the old resized one :p
[12:51] <openros> ya thanks i will use the same method...
[12:52] <openros> in parted command, in resize option there are two parameters start mb and end mb. can anybody explain this parameters
[12:52] <eoch> is there a good application to be able to capture information while surfing, reading documents etc?  I want it to be sorta like a sticky notes, but be able to capture automatically where I gathered the information from (url / document name/ etc)
[12:54] <termos> eduroam stopped working after updating my ubuntu, are there any bugs in wpa on newer versions?
[12:54] <pw-toxic> hi, can someone tell me how i can change the hover color of the ubuntu start menu of the top panel?
[12:54] <om26er> how to install unetbootin
[12:55] <om26er> ?
[12:56] <innociv> Jyxt,
[12:56] <Jyxt> yes?
[12:56] <innociv> so i need to um..
[12:57] <innociv> trying to find download rofl :|
[12:57] <om26er> how to install unetbootin
[12:57] <Jyxt> ?
[12:58] <koshari> om26er same as any other package in the repos
[12:58] <innociv> so i need to wget ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/openssh-5.2.tar.gz and then tar xvfz, cd, then i ./configure --exec-prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc/ssh --with-pam ?
[13:00] <Jyxt> hrm...thats a great question, i run gentoo so 'emerge openssh' is all i had to do :p
[13:00] <Caesi> Hi all, how do I install Grubb via GParted? Thanks!
[13:00] <Jyxt> innociv: apt-get install openssh?
[13:00] <innociv> yeah tried not found :P
[13:01] <mrwes> apt-get install openssh-client or server
[13:01] <innociv> i need -server right?
[13:02] <mrwes> are you 'serving' the files to somewhere else? then server
[13:02] <Neconide> someone talk to me im bored ;-;
[13:02] <mrwes> the other end would be client, no?
[13:02] <Jyxt> innociv: openssh-server it seems :0
[13:02] <innociv> it says already the newest version o_O
[13:02] <pw-toxic_> hi, i'm trying to change the hover color of the start menu of my gnome panel - how can i do this?
[13:03] <innociv> so i already have it! o_O
[13:03] <pw-toxic_> and the hover color of the window picker of my panel..
[13:03] <mrwes> innociv: did you configure the /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[13:03] <Jyxt> innociv: then just update the config files as per that link
[13:03] <Jyxt> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[13:03] <innociv> i have part of it
[13:03] <innociv> it has lots in it
[13:03] <innociv> but not that's in the link
[13:03] <Jyxt> yes...taht stuff you have to add
[13:04] <Jyxt> its not default behaviour
[13:04] <innociv> kk
[13:05] <innociv> then /etc/init.d/ssh restart i guess
[13:07] <mrwes> yes
[13:07] <mrwes> sshd restart isn't it?
[13:07] <innociv> groupadd: group sftponly exists  ... usermod: unknown group stfponly
[13:07] <innociv> apparently not, mrwes
[13:07] <Jyxt> add the group to /etc/groups
[13:07] <Jyxt> err /etc/group
[13:08] <innociv> it is there, jyxt
[13:08] <IRConan> anyone here set up rtorrent with wtorrent on a ubuntu serveR?
[13:08] <Jyxt> or better use groupadd
[13:08] <innociv> i did
[13:08] <pw-toxic_> i'd like to customize the colors of gnome
[13:08] <innociv> it is there
[13:08] <innociv> i tried ot add agian to double check
[13:08] <MaxFrag|Zack> Hello, I just got a new USB headset today and after a lot of work I got everything set up decent enough. It has a volume control on it though which doesn't function correctly, I was wonder how to make it change a different volume setting, currently it changes the Microphone volume in the Volume control panel.
[13:08] <Jyxt> might need to relog?
[13:08] <vegombrei> has anyone used thunar?
[13:09] <grawity> Yes
[13:09] <innociv> but usermod -G stfponly user   returns usermod: unknown group stfponly
[13:09] <cannonball> I'm generally unfamiliar with the Ubuntu/Debian way of handling packages.  Is there a way to get 2.6.30 kernel in a deb?  Maybe switching to a different repo? (sorry for the CentOS terminology, not sure what the correct terminology is in Ubuntu).
[13:09] <Jyxt> edit /etc/passwd and add the user to the group manually?
[13:09] <distract> any idea why full screen applications and games keep throwing me out of fullscreen randomly?
[13:10] <vegombrei> grawity: yes?
[13:10] <innociv> user:x:1006:1000  the 1006 is group?
[13:10] <grawity> cannonball: I got from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/
[13:10] <innociv> ya i think so..
[13:10] <Jyxt> well...if your adding a user to a group
[13:10] <innociv> well 1006 is a gruop thats the users name
[13:11] <cannonball> grawity: what's kernel-ppa user?  Is that an automated build process?
[13:11] <Silkjc> How can I use test in a shell script to test if a type of file exists in a folder..can't seem to get it
[13:11] <cannonball> grawity: And thanks, btw :-)
[13:11] <innociv> oops i typod lol
[13:11] <grawity> cannonball: No idea, I just got that link from someone when trying to get rid of the millions of SCSI sense errors.
[13:11] <Jyxt> innociv: if your adding a user to a group do it in /etc/group
[13:11] <innociv> i got it
[13:11] <Jyxt> look for line like
[13:11] <Jyxt> sftponly::25:
[13:12] <Jyxt> then add the username after the :
[13:12] <grawity> cannonball: ##linux is often useful too
[13:12] <Jyxt> sftponly::25:mysuer
[13:12] <Jyxt> or whatever
[13:12] <innociv> ya i got it..
[13:12] <innociv> ty
[13:12] <innociv> # The internal-sftp server checks all directories leading up to the users home directory to ensure it's owned by root (see here: www.tenshu.net) <- okay but what if this can't be root?  i need it to be rph:rph
[13:13] <TheNo1Yeti> you need /home to be rph:rph or the /home/<whatever> directory to be rph:rph?
[13:14] <innociv> i need /home/whatever/public/... to be rph:rph all except ofr /home/whatever/public/youcanscrewwiththisstuff
[13:14] <cannonball> grawity: I'm a sysadmin and I know the old methods of building from scratch, package management in Gentoo, RedHat/Mandriva/Centos, etc, but the Ubuntu way of doing things is totally new to me.  Just trying to get used to this particular package management scheme.  Again, thanks :-)
[13:14] <innociv> does it matter if it's root? can it just not be owned by them?..
[13:14] <Jyxt> cannonball: ubuntu is based on debian so if you know debian you know ubuntu
[13:14] <Silkjc> Anyone know how to check if a file type exists in a folder? in shell ..
[13:15] <Silkjc> Should be an easy question :(
[13:15] <TheNo1Yeti> innociv: It's saying that everything leading up to the home directory has to be root.  So if the users home directory is /home/bob it doesn't matter who owns /home/bob as long as /home is owned by root
[13:16] <nickel_on_my_bac> does anyone wish to give me a hand in setting up LAMP, I have installed it and when I go to http://localhost it's fine but localhost/phpmyadmin doesnt work and comes up wanting to open a PHTML PAGE
[13:16] <TheNo1Yeti> ls -l | grep *.<filetype> doesn't work?
[13:16] <innociv> :(
[13:16] <Silkjc> TheNo1Yeti: That doesn't seem to return anything
[13:17] <TheNo1Yeti> what is the file type your looking for?
[13:17] <Silkjc> any, it will be called on many different types
[13:17] <Silkjc> but just using say, pdf for example
[13:17] <Silkjc> I want to be able to test if pdf's exist in that directory
[13:17] <Draglor> TheNo1Yeti: Shouldn't it be including the "":  ls -l | grep "*.<filetype>"
[13:18] <Jyxt> grep searches inside files, not on the file system
[13:18] <Draglor> ls *.pdf Silkjc
[13:18] <TheNo1Yeti> Draglor: No.   The " " is only if your doing funky stuff with the search params
[13:18] <Draglor> for pdf
[13:18] <napsy> Hello. Does Karmic+1 mean the ubuntu after karmic release or does it mean karmic alpha1?
[13:18] <moDumass> hey all, um, i know this may sound like an uber noob question... how do i unclutter my ubuntu install and return it to a defualt install?
[13:18] <Silkjc> Draglor: That returns a list of the ones that does exist, I just want whether ANY exist or not
[13:18] <moDumass> like get rid of all the crap
[13:18] <Draglor> TheNo1Yeti: But it would be escaped in your case to anything existing in the current dir
[13:19] <extor> If the temperature of a hard drive shoots up from 45 to 60 celcius when you stress it, does that mean it is failing? Do high temperatures on a drive mean it is mechanically toast?
[13:19] <nickel_on_my_bac> anyone ?
[13:19] <moDumass> extor, does it still work?
[13:19] <Silkjc> Draglor: I want to do psuedo:  If (PDF Files exist); then ...
[13:19] <moDumass> Extend, i mean that may be withing its operating temperatures
[13:20] <extor> moDumass, right now its still working yeah...but it says "FAILING_NOW" when I do a smartctl -a /dev/sdb
[13:20] <moDumass> extor, ok, well i guess that is a bad sign, i have 2 hdds in a NAS that run up to 60 often
[13:21] <extor> Well I have two identical 160GB sata drives..same model. One is at 42C and one was at 45C and shot up to 60C when I stress tested it
[13:21] <extor> So the other one at 42 is healthy methinks
[13:21] <extor> either that or it has a busted thermister :)
[13:21] <gabriel> \j
[13:21] <innociv> hm
[13:22] <innociv> well now i get Authentication failed. trying to log in with that user
[13:22] <indus> extor: how do u measure temp of a hdd
[13:23] <extor> smartctl
[13:23] <extor> thermistor
[13:23] <extor> it reports it
[13:23] <sergioaguado> hola
[13:23] <sergioaguado> espoñol
[13:23] <sergioaguado> por favor
[13:23] <Silkjc> How can I truncate the output of ls -l to just 1 item?
[13:23] <sergioaguado> ola
[13:23] <sergioaguado> hola
[13:23] <Pici> !es | sergioaguado
[13:23] <grawity> !es | sergioaguado
[13:23] <nickel_on_my_bac> I need help, config phpmyadmin to work at localhost/phpmyadmin can anyone help
[13:24] <Pici> extor: While you were suggested to ask that here, its really not a topic that this channel deals with.  ##electronics or ##hardware would be the best places to ask.
[13:24] <indus> extor: smartctl gives me a permission denied unless i use it with sudo
[13:25] <Draglor> Silkjc: I just wrote you a query
[13:25] <moDumass> extor, im sorry dude, i just dont know enough, i find if the ubuntu crowd cant help to check the suse crowd, they are pretty easy breezy
[13:25] <nickel_on_my_bac> anyone care to help me on phpmyadmin ?
[13:26] <innociv> can someone help?  mrwes do you know?
[13:26] <ewook> nickel_on_my_bac: did you install it from apt?
[13:26] <innociv> it sounds liek "Nov 18 12:13:34 debian-server sshd[17292]: fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory "/home/sftpfred"" thing from http://rothwerx.com/node/8 but I dont get it
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> hey all, does banshee need an x server to run?
[13:26] <nickel_on_my_bac> ewook: Yes I did but when I'm trying to open PHP pages is asking my to save to desktop has PHTML file !!
[13:27] <ewook> nickel_on_my_bac: how did you install apache (LAMP) ?
[13:27] <innociv> i'm just getting Authentication failed. I have AllowUsers set
[13:27] <innociv> it's those things it says to add to the end
[13:27] <MaxFrag|Zack> Hey, I got a new USB headset and I'm unsure how to make it the default program that everything wants to send sound to.
[13:28] <MaxFrag|Zack> Could someone help me with that?
[13:28] <cannonball> trying out 2.6.30, see you all on the flip side.
[13:28] <nickel_on_my_bac> I followed this http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrag|Zack: http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/how-i-got-my-usb-headset-to-work/
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrag|Zack: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-09/msg01791.html
[13:29] <nickel_on_my_bac> when I pull up http://localhost/ that works fine but it seems to be PHP is working nor is phpmyadmin
[13:30] <rob_p> innociv, I couldn't test the chroot functionality of OpenSSH because my version is pre 5.
[13:30] <innociv> :(
[13:30] <veroli> have you created a test php page
[13:31] <rob_p> innociv, But the chroot jail does indeed need to be owned by root according to the documentation I found.
[13:31] <veroli> to see if it displays
[13:31] <nickel_on_my_bac> yes that doesnt display either
[13:32] <mach3> Hey, I have a question: I'm attempting to recover a bad disk with dd_rescue, unfortunately, the disk I have available to move the .img to, is the exact same size as the disk I'm recovering (literally.) so I get an error about running out of space. Is there a way I can copy this image to something compressed or smaller than a .img? So I can still use it, but it wouldn't take up every byte?
[13:32] <nickel_on_my_bac> what's the best command line to install all LAMP package without any glitches ?
[13:32] <veroli> php not installed properly then
[13:32] <nickel_on_my_bac> but i reinstalled php and still not working
[13:32] <hateball> nickel_on_my_bac: tasksel
[13:32] <MaxFrag|Zack> ActionParsnip: seen both of those on google, second one doesn't seem to apply, the usb headset doesn't create a new sound card.
[13:32] <veroli> apt-get install lamp-server
[13:32] <Pirate_Hunter> !lamp
[13:32] <Pirate_Hunter> nickel_on_my_bac, that was for you
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> mach3: look into a program called foremost, then look into a backup situation so you dont have to bother with data restoring from bad disks in the future
[13:33] <nickel_on_my_bac> already seen that
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrag|Zack: then its not installed right
[13:33] <MaxFrag|Zack> ActionParsnip: the first one sort of works, except when using ventrilo it makes it so the sound is very distorted.
[13:33] <nickel_on_my_bac> apt-get install lamp-server this doesnt work
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[13:33] <mach3> ActionParsnip: well...that would help, but I've already got a bad disk...So that does nothing for me =P I need help with dd_rescue, it does what I ask it to, I just need a way to compress it.
[13:34]  * hmmm is away: Irssi 0.8.13 (Debian 1.1-1ubuntu2) (Using KDE 3.5.10)
[13:34] <MaxFrag|Zack> ActionParsnip: I have everything working except for aMSN which want to throw sound at me through my PC speaks, which it does well. I can't hear it though because I'm using the headset is semi-closed system and I can't hear it.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> mach3: get a backup if your data is important. no backup = data is disposable
[13:34] <Pici> !away > hmmm
[13:34] <Pirate_Hunter> nickel_on_my_bac, follow the link read it, its fail proof 95% of the time in my opinion
[13:34] <nickel_on_my_bac> sorted!
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> mach3: you need 2 partitions, the bad one to read and a place to put the resulting data
[13:35] <smacktalk> I can't edit /etc/services even with sudo
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> mach3: use foremost on the partition to pull the data types yuo require from the disk. If foremost does not work you will have to buy another disk to use dd_recue as you have seen
[13:35] <veroli> sorry try
[13:35] <veroli> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 phpmyadmin libapache2-mod-php5 libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql
[13:36] <smacktalk> sudo cat >> services
[13:36] <smacktalk> sudo  cat tailed >> services
[13:36] <smacktalk> any suggestions?
[13:37] <JanHolbo> hi all!
[13:37] <Draglor> smacktalk: What are you trying?
[13:37] <Pirate_Hunter> nickel_on_my_bac, follow the link read it, its fail proof 95% of the time in my opinion?
[13:37] <nickel_on_my_bac> sorted
[13:37] <Draglor> smacktalk: "sudo cat /etc/services" gives?
[13:38] <Pirate_Hunter> !hi | JanHolbo
[13:38] <moDumass> ActionParsnip, if i use a install cd, can i reset my install to a default install?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> gah @ pidgin
[13:38] <asmund> I want to backup my F-spot library to DVD's. Any good burning software that can automagically spread the library ofer several discs?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> moDumass: you can bot to recovery root console and rename the .gnome folder, that will reset gnome back to defaults if thats what you mean
[13:39] <indus> ActionParsnip: hi u replied to my launchpad question startup apps
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> indus: I'm good on there :)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> indus: if the text is all in a big block its off my g1 phone ;)
[13:40] <moDumass> ActionParsnip, its more that things that used to work quickly now do not
[13:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: hmm?
[13:40] <eoch> is there a good application to be able to capture information while surfing, reading documents etc?  I want it to be sorta like a sticky notes, but be able to capture automatically where I gathered the information from (url / document name/ etc)
[13:40] <Pirate_Hunter> moDumass, you might have to reinstall everythign except format /home just leave the data there
[13:41] <smacktalk> anne@anne-desktop:/etc$ sudo  cat tailed >> services
[13:41] <smacktalk> bash: services: Permission denied
[13:41] <bullgard4> Who would test Ekiga with me, please?
[13:41] <Draglor> smacktalk: try just "cat /etc/services"
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> moDumass: then you can run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop    which will reinstall all the apps that make up the desktop and will give them fresh configs (except what is configured in ~)
[13:41] <ewook> sudo 'cat tailed >> services'
[13:41] <smacktalk> Draglor...that asked me for a root password
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> indus: i web browse from bed on my G1 and type on launchpad, good fun
[13:42] <Draglor> you will have to get superuser to write into services smacktalk
[13:42] <moDumass> ActionParsnip, thanks, il give that a whirl.
[13:42] <smacktalk> i'm superuser
[13:42] <Draglor> what gives "sudo su" as output?
[13:42] <Pirate_Hunter> smacktalk, no right now your a sudoer
[13:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: i was pleasantly surprised to read ur reply,since u were helping me on irc too
[13:43] <smacktalk> oh...
[13:43] <ubuntu> wtf
[13:43] <moDumass> ActionParsnip, i installed ubuntu on an eepc, it has a 4gig and an 8gig flash drive/s problem is that now that i have it going i cant do system upgrades or distro upgrades because it runs out of space
[13:43] <Pirate_Hunter> !languange | ubuntu
[13:43] <Draglor> smacktalk:  Try "sudo cat tailed >> /etc/services" and give root- (or your user-) password when asked
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> moDumass: sudo apt-get clean first
[13:44] <smacktalk> that worked!!!
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> moDumass: or skim some packages out that are bulky (open office and gimp will give you a fair chunk of space, if you need word processing install abiword)
[13:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: also cd ~/.config/autostart;clean what does this do?
[13:45] <moDumass> ActionParsnip, thanks for that
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> indus: some startup stuff is defined in there
[13:45] <smacktalk> Thanks you!!
[13:45] <indus> ActionParsnip: i mean the syntax with semicolon and clean is what is intriguing
[13:45] <Draglor> indus: It changes the current directory to "~/.config/autostart" and clears/blanks the screen
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !startup > indus
[13:46] <indus> ActionParsnip: Draglor:ya i did figure out when i saw the output
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> indus: clear just clears the screen, makes life readable
[13:47] <indus> ActionParsnip: but, its true, i have ticked the 'remember programs when quit' box but it still keeps running again
[13:47] <spursncowboys> Hi everyone. I am gonna get off topic for a second. When I download a torrent, I get like 25 zip or rar files. Then I extract it and I'll get 25 video files but the first one plays the entire show. When I burn it, do I have to include all the extracted files? Do I just put one and burn it?
[13:47] <indus> ActionParsnip: although today it hasnt autorun totem or firefox
[13:48] <Draglor> spursncowboys: Just burn what you can play ....
[13:48] <spursncowboys> so the first file? So then should I extract all of them? Also can I delete all the files I won't use?
[13:48] <indus> its been 5 years and i still cant figure out what advantage a torrent file gives
[13:49] <indus> for me,its the slowest download speed when i download a torrent
[13:49] <Draglor> sometimes faster and much cheaper for the one spreading the file
[13:49] <spursncowboys> indus: what do you use?
[13:49] <indus> in fact the speeds i get are really shameful like 30 kb/s when i have max 256 kb/s
[13:50] <indus> spursncowboys: i use default transmission client what else
[13:50] <Pirate_Hunter> indus, your isp probably shapes your network and has anti p2p software running
[13:50] <olax> i need html/decoder to run swf have try online and not gotten
[13:50] <Draglor> spursncowboys: Just burn the file that was playing the movie on your Computer. nothing more or less.
[13:50] <indus> Pirate_Hunter: no not to my knowledge,
[13:50] <Draglor> olax: swf is flash ... try flash plugin
[13:51] <spursncowboys> Draglor: thanks. It's just something that's always made me wonder.
[13:51] <indus> Pirate_Hunter: you know i have been wanting to effectively use torrents for the last ten years but i seem to fail miserably at it
[13:51] <Pirate_Hunter> indus, they dont tell you if they did bet you wouldve probably looked for someone else, last time i checked online there was a list of isps that did that
[13:51] <indus> Pirate_Hunter: i dont even consider a torrent file now
[13:51] <Draglor> Pirate_Hunter: Maybe he's just downloading the wrongs things ... mostly illegal downloads aren't fast as torrents...
[13:51] <znh> Hello :-)
[13:51] <indus> Draglor: i never download illegal stuff
[13:52] <Draglor> Yeah, as everyone doesn't. ;)
[13:52] <indus> Draglor: mind it ! its akin to calling me a thief
[13:52] <znh> I'm looking for an application like Gimp are there any others? My goal is to make a painting with effects and such.. Anything like Gimp would do
[13:52] <moDumass> indus it all depends on ratios and the upload speed of the seeders
[13:52] <indus> Draglor: anyways not your fault
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> indus: I'd watch it for a few day. See what sort of things cause the next boot to make it load automagically
[13:52] <Draglor> Well, if I download ubuntu over http it's about four times slower than as torrent
[13:53] <wolfwalker> Sorry to bug you with a KDE question, but #kubuntu is dead.  In kmix how do you monitor sound in?  I can turn sound from the mic port up and down for my recording program, but I can't see how to monitor the mic port from speakers.
[13:53] <indus> moDumass: yes i tried some old tv programs and no one was seeding it so that is a problem i think
[13:53] <Draglor> indus, what's loading automatically?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> wolfwalker: i just answered ;)
[13:53] <wolfwalker> Yup, just saw it.  Sorry.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Draglor: firefox and totem
[13:53] <moDumass> Draglor, If i dload ubuntu from the web i can get about 6 megs a second
[13:53] <Pirate_Hunter> Draglor, that is when you use download accelerator :p still most admins hate those and may ban you heck doubt ubuntu would do it
[13:53] <indus> ActionParsnip: yes i have been watching it for a month now and diff programs keep launching
[13:53] <moDumass> indus, try diferent torrent engines or emule, edonkey
[13:53] <zhoujingrui> is there some ubuntu radio soft ?
[13:53] <moDumass> they have ransom old school torrents
[13:53] <zhoujingrui> thanks
[13:53] <indus> i had a pigeon menace for some time
[13:53] <rameshwo> hello.. i wanted to talk with you guys from ubuntu.. but couldn't get irc to work with it .. so which client should i choose ??
[13:54] <znh> indus, if I remember properly there is an option to encrypt traffic. This would prevent your ISP from shaping in most cases. Unsure if transmission has this feature though.
[13:54] <indus> pidgin ,firefox , rhythmbox loading up
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> indus: watch what programs are used before you log off. and which ones are running when you log off
[13:54] <_PiLoT_> anyone got a good star trek theme for compi
[13:54] <Pirate_Hunter> rameshwo, the one your using right now would be my guess
[13:54] <_PiLoT_> compiz*
[13:54] <znh> rameshwo, XChat is pretty popular
[13:54] <indus> moDumass: is emule available in synaptic?
[13:55] <ux> i must look it
[13:55] <ux> wait
[13:55] <zhoujingrui> my emule have no speed
[13:55] <indus> i tried azurieus but it keeps asking for java
[13:55] <Pirate_Hunter> _PiLoT_, go to #compiz
[13:55] <_PiLoT_> cheers pirate
[13:55] <zhoujingrui> is there some raido software in ubuntu ?
[13:55] <ux> it called amule
[13:55] <ux> )
[13:55] <zhoujingrui> thanks
[13:55] <Draglor> indus: did you look in gnome folder in /usr/ for startups?
[13:56] <Draglor> you are using gnome I assume ;)
[13:56] <ux> radio and other for music is rhythmbox
[13:56] <indus> Draglor: am i supposed to ?
[13:56] <gravisan> hi
[13:56] <gravisan> how is it possible to tell if i am running 32 bit or 64?
[13:56] <Draglor> no, but you use mostly gtk apps as it seems
[13:56] <indus> gravisan: uname -m in terminal
[13:56] <Pirate_Hunter> zhoujingrui, there are plenty search online or in synaptic there is also lastfm which is not a soft but browser base (heck rhythmbox has radio function)
[13:56] <indus> gravisan: uname -a in terminal
[13:56] <Draglor> or supposed for looking there?
[13:56] <gravisan> indus:  thanks
[13:57] <gravisan> i am runniing 686
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> 686 == 32bit
[13:57] <indus> gravisan: ya 32 bi
[13:57] <indus> t
[13:57] <gravisan> is it possible to switch to x64 by installing the 64bit kernel ... or wouldi need to do all sort of crazy stuff with userspace too?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> x86_64 == 64bit
[13:57] <indus> whats diff between 386 and 686
[13:57] <Draglor> indus: I think that's some default startup apps from your gnome install (so not located in ~/ but normally in /usr/)
[13:57] <gravisan> 686 has more extensions i think?
[13:58] <zhoujingrui> rhythmbox radio doesnot work
[13:58] <indus> Draglor: in /usr which folder i check? gnome?
[13:58] <Draglor> indus: 686 is pentium >=4
[13:58] <gravisan> is there a command line only installer for ubuntu
[13:58] <gravisan> i want something like debootstrap
[13:58] <gravisan> but on an installer cd
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> indus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I386  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_P6_(microarchitecture)
[13:58] <Pirate_Hunter> zhoujingrui, it does if your internet isn't slow and your arent connecting to brazil or some other far away country from you, best best stick to lastfm in your webbrowser
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> indus: i386 is for dog old CPUs basically.
[13:59] <indus> Draglor: which folder in /usr there are many
[13:59] <Draglor> indus: Try "find /usr/ -type f|grep  totem" and look into this files
[13:59] <indus> Draglor: ok can you also tell me how that command works
[13:59] <Draglor> normally /usr/share/ or /usr/gnome/ (I don't use gnome)
[13:59] <Draglor> indus: man find ;)
[13:59] <gravisan> i am trying the mini.iso
[14:00] <gravisan> but i am scared its going to install everything
[14:00] <Draglor> and man grep
[14:00] <indus> Draglor: hmm there is totem there and a lot more
[14:00] <zhoujingrui> lastfm is not freee
[14:00] <zhoujingrui> free
[14:00] <Adola> I'm running 8.10 Intrepid, and I can't activate the restricted drivers.
[14:00] <indus> Draglor: ok hmm it keeps spitting output
[14:00] <Draglor> there should be just things with toem in the name
[14:00] <Draglor> totem
[14:00] <djoob> Hi I have 8.04 and however hard I try I can't get flash player 10 to work
[14:00] <Pirate_Hunter> zhoujingrui, yes it is! were you read that is utterly lying to you
[14:00] <djoob> Anyone got any ideas
[14:00] <djoob> ?
[14:01] <FeasibilityStudy> djoob 32 or 64
[14:01] <djoob> 32
[14:01] <Draglor> is there something on a directory including "auto" or a . desktop file in the output?
[14:01] <Pirate_Hunter> djoob, just install it from synaptic or terminal
[14:01] <djoob> Pirate I tried that ... it says already installe
[14:01] <djoob> d
[14:01] <Pirate_Hunter> !flash | djoob
[14:01] <Adola> I'm running 8.10 Intrepid, and I can't activate the restricted drivers.
[14:02] <wolfwalker> djoob in 8.04 flash player is not good.  It will work sometimes, but not very well.  Get Ubuntu 9.04, it works flawlessly.
[14:02] <Pirate_Hunter> djoob, might help figure out the problem
[14:02] <djoob> 9.04 ? Is that jaunty?
[14:02] <indus> wolfwalker: ok for me its the other way around
[14:02] <wolfwalker> 9.04 is Jaunty, yes.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !9.04
[14:02] <indus> wolfwalker: flash was 9 in that now its 10 although now in hardy they might have updated to 10
[14:03] <wolfwalker> And indus I don't know what to say.  I had trouble in 8.04 so I googled and found it was a common problem.
[14:03] <djoob> I just can't get my video drivers to work with Jaunty so I downgraded to hardy
[14:03] <Pirate_Hunter> wolfwalker, wouldnt say works flawlessly that is just a street of perfect. I still get hangs and random cpu increase as well as memory
[14:03] <gravisan> is there a command line only version i can download?
[14:03] <djoob> Video works great but can't get flash to work
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> djoob: 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?
[14:03] <indus> Draglor: ok too many files where do i look
[14:03] <djoob> Action 32
[14:04] <Pirate_Hunter> djoob, if it worked in 8.04 it will work in 9.04 as long as you edit xorg yourself, they did change bits and bobs
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> djoob: if the repo fails yo uyou can download the tar.gz file and put the .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:04] <djoob> I can see libflashplayer.so in the firefox plugins dir. but firefox can't see it
[14:04] <remoteCTRL> err... what is the difference between ssh and ssh2 please?
[14:04] <Pirate_Hunter> djoob, this is assuming you done your xorg yourself :p
[14:04] <djoob> Action I tried all of that
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> djoob: is it seen in about : plugins
[14:05] <indus> ActionParsnip: Draglor : i have so many minor irritants with 9.04
[14:05] <indus> nvm.
[14:05] <djoob> Action no it isn't
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> indus: its all been identical for me since gutsy
[14:06] <znh> remoteCTRL, SSH2 is a more secure, efficient, and portable version of SSH that includes SFTP
[14:06] <indus> ActionParsnip: for me feisty was great but i fell in love with hardy
[14:06] <Pirate_Hunter> !info ssh2 > Pirate_Hunter
[14:06] <indus> ActionParsnip: have been thinking going back  to it
[14:06] <Draglor> As I use ubuntu only for testing, I'm running 9.10 for some time now ...
[14:06] <djoob> ActionParsnip: I tried it through install missing plugin, deb package from adobe and tar.gz from adobe.... all fail to load flashplayer
[14:06] <remoteCTRL> znh: all right, thanks for that, do you also happen to know why ubuntu ships with ssh and not ssh2?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djoob: so you see something like this: http://pastebin.com/d7accf72b
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> djoob: mines 64bit , but you get the idea
[14:07] <remoteCTRL> !ssh2
[14:07] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip, is ssh2 the same as openssh?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> indus: mandrake 7 for me :)
[14:07] <phisher1> remoteCTRL: ubuntu ships with openssh, which supports ssh1 and ssh2
[14:07] <tikur> anybody who can help me with perl
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: not heard of ssh2
[14:07] <djoob> ActionParsnip: hang on
[14:07] <remoteCTRL> phisher1: ah ok i see so it is basically my choice which one i pick?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> tikur: i'd head into #perl
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> tikur: theres nearly 600 users in there
[14:08] <phisher1> the default in the ubuntu install of openssh-server (which is not installed by default) sets the protocol to ssh2
[14:08] <remoteCTRL> phisher1: znh are those actually compatible, say if i create ssh2 public keys on the local machie but the remote one has ssh running?
[14:08] <dani__> Hi.
[14:08] <phisher1> ssh2 keys?
[14:08] <dani__> how can I log my pidgin chats ?
[14:08] <phisher1> do you mean rsa or dsa ?
[14:08] <Draglor> indus: is there something in /usr/share/autostart related to firefox/totem/whatever?
[14:09] <remoteCTRL> phisher1: err... i'm not sure about that as the nomenclature in /etc/does not indicate so...?
[14:09] <Draglor> dani__: pidgin is logging by default
[14:09] <remoteCTRL> phisher1: well i'd prefer rsa but basically i dont care
[14:09] <znh> remoteCTRL, ubuntu ships with ssh2, but refers to it as ssh. It's the default now :)
[14:09] <phisher1> remoteCTRL: rsa or dsa keys will work on an ssh1 or ssh2 server as long as the server allows key pair authentication
[14:10] <phisher1> if you prefer one, why do you say you basiclly don't care ?
[14:10] <winterelf> hi all... need help.. in the univercity where i study there is a wireless connection that i supposed to define as "wep 802.1" and authentication with "peap" so i edit in my network connection this connection with the name and password and it worked.. but the problam is that i cant connect to pidgin and to irssi (irc) .. any one knows how to fix it? when i connect to a different network like my home than i can use irssi and pidgin
[14:10] <znh> remoteCTRL, if I remember correctly one of SSH2 features is the public key feature. Afaik SSH1 does not have that
[14:10] <Etherael> I got a weird one, intel mobile 4 accelerated graphics chip on jaunty with a heterogenous dual head (1920x1080 ext + 1280x800 int) setup. It's treating the entire display as if it were one big monitor when I want to treat it like two, anyone know a way out of this?
[14:10] <remoteCTRL> phisher1: well i prefer it but if i cannot use it its not a big deal to me
[14:10] <Draglor> dani__: The log should be somewhere below ~/.purple
[14:10] <phisher1> that's incorrect
[14:10] <phisher1> ssh1 supports public key authentication
[14:10] <dani__> thanks Draglor. I'll search it.
[14:10] <djoob> ActionParsnip: No .. I see this http://pastebin.com/m2349704a
[14:11] <remoteCTRL> phisher1: znh: ok gentlemen, thanks alot, you helped me much, i think i got it from here:)
[14:11] <phisher1> yup
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> djoob: ok then run: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:11] <winterelf> btw - i can use firefox to serf in sites... but nothing more than that..
[14:11] <djoob> ActionParsnip: ok hang on
[14:11] <vlek> Hi guys, Iv´e been searching on the internet but I cannot find the awnser. Ive installed on my first partition windows 7 and on the second ubuntu and installed Grub2. Now on the internet people are saying that Grub2 doesn´t support Vista boot. So is there a work arround?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> djoob: and copy the .so file to that folder and restart firefox
[14:11] <Pirate_Hunter> winterelf, huh.. i would think so
[14:12] <znh> remoteCTRL, :-)
[14:12] <phisher1> grub supports vista boot
[14:12] <phisher1> I've done it on my laptop
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> vlek: install grub or lilo
[14:12] <phisher1> you did say Windows 7 then Vista though..
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> vlek: what functionality in grub2 do you use?
[14:12] <vlek> Aaah yes its windows 7
[14:12] <vlek> But it has messed up grub2 and now I cannot open vista nor ubuntu
[14:13] <phisher1> I doubt much in the boot code would change for windows7 from vista..
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> !grub > vlek
[14:13] <phisher1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035999
[14:13] <Pirate_Hunter> phisher1, you would be very surprised
[14:13] <phisher1> ^^ dual boot ubuntu & windows 7
[14:13] <vlek> Itś for my work. Need some windows applications
[14:13] <phisher1> Pirate_Hunter: windows 7 changes don't even matter
[14:13] <phisher1> it all matters on what drive you are booting to
[14:14] <phisher1> if you install grub to the MBR of the drive you are booting to, you can tell grub to switch boot device and boot from another HDD where Windows 7 is installed, then it's boot record takes over.
[14:14] <whazilla> anybody who thinks last repos should be ignited or reincarnated ?
[14:14] <whazilla> i just hate 9.4
[14:14] <phisher1> My only concern was grub correcly and automaticlly detecting the OS..
[14:15] <Pirate_Hunter> phisher1, i would have thought the mbr would change depending on the os (do correct me if i am wrong or thinking of something else)
[14:15] <Pirate_Hunter> whazilla, hmmm and what is wrong with your pc
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> phisher1: then grub is the answer....
[14:15] <phisher1> it really depends on your configuration..
[14:15] <djoob> ActionParsnip: Now I get this
[14:15] <whazilla> Pirate_Hunter: ubuntu is wrong on it ;)
[14:15] <phisher1> yes, grub is most definitelly the answer
[14:15] <djoob> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m76dfea99
[14:15] <ux> phisher1, u can do that both grub and win boot loader
[14:15] <phisher1> vista boot loader is a bitch to make boot linux
[14:15] <phisher1> grub can do it nice and automagicaly
[14:16] <vlek> Im not using grub but the next generation of grub called grub2
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> djoob: looks good, kill every running instance of firefox and rerun it
[14:16] <whazilla> Pirate_Hunter: nothing wrong with the pc ... just software technicities
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> vlek: what do you need grub2 for?
[14:16] <vlek> Well itś new
[14:16] <whazilla> SSP ==> pro police developmend
[14:16] <whazilla> thats wrong with it
[14:16] <Pirate_Hunter> vlek, hmmm second person this week having problems with grub2 wonder how different it is
[14:16] <phisher1> well, I can't speak for grub2
[14:16] <whazilla> especially with ubuntu 9.4
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> vlek: it has features that you clearly are unaware of and wil never use
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> vlek: if you simply need to boot 2 different OSes then standard grub will do that just as well as grub2
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> vlek: in essence, you are fixing what isnt broken to ultimately gain nothing
[14:17] <shiznebit> may someone tell me how to turn off the mouse while typing. So I stop hitting the tochpad and screwing things up ?
[14:17] <whazilla> im gonne make a grub spinoff fork called dubdub
[14:17] <whazilla> ther good pro police killers
[14:17] <Krizz> Anyone in here that has experience in setting up RAID in Ubuntu that can help me?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> !raid > Krizz
[14:18] <Pirate_Hunter> whazilla, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:18] <ux> Krizz, only hardware raid
[14:18] <Pirate_Hunter> !raid | Krizz
[14:18] <whazilla> u go to Pirate_Hunter and leech urself dry bloodworm
[14:18] <Krizz> that's only for software, i'm talking about hardware raid
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Krizz: good lad :D
[14:18] <phisher1> hardware raid would require drivers for your raid controller
[14:19] <phisher1> and for you to configure an array on  your raid controller
[14:19] <phisher1> then your OS would see the array as 1 big disk.
[14:19] <Krizz> okey
[14:19] <ux> Krizz, i use it on HP proliant with logic SCSII raid
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Krizz: the raid will be configured in the card, once it is configured it will e ssen in the OS in whatever config you set it as
[14:19] <Krizz> so I don't have to do anything in ubuntu?
[14:19] <monestri> kriss, hardware raid is beyond the scope of this channel
[14:19] <phisher1> as long as your raid controller is recognized.. no
[14:19] <monestri> or any other os channel
[14:19] <phisher1> monestri: why ?
[14:19] <phisher1> humbug
[14:19] <phisher1> he has a valid question
[14:19] <phisher1> if you can't help, don't.
[14:19] <FloodBot2> phisher1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <ux> Krizz, what's the controller?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Krizz: once its configured, If you use RAID0 (not true RAID but thats another story) then Ubuntu will only see 1 disk
[14:20] <david00`> Hi all
[14:20] <Krizz> i'm going setup 2 1tb discs as RAID 0+1 with a card so if it's recognised it's going to show up during the ubuntu setup as 1tb?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> !hi | david00`
[14:20] <phisher1> you can't do 0+1 with 2 disks
[14:20] <david00`> I'm trying to install Netbook Remix 9.04 on an HP 2133
[14:20] <whazilla> !high
[14:20] <Krizz> sorry
[14:20] <Krizz> i meant raid 1
[14:20] <Krizz> :D
[14:20] <whazilla> darn
[14:21] <david00`> I downloaded the .img file and used 'dd' to copy it onto a USB stick, but when I try to boot from it I get 'Error loading operating system'
[14:21] <whazilla> now whers the weeds at
[14:21] <david00`> That's all, it won't go any further
[14:21] <Kingsy101> is it possible to install internet exploror (the most recent version) on ubuntu?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Krizz: then it will be seen as a single disk, the controller may need config tyo be used, some work out of the box
[14:21] <ux> Krizz, u wright
[14:21] <Pirate_Hunter> !offtopic | whazilla
[14:21] <Krizz> ok
[14:21] <Krizz> thanks guys
[14:21] <david00`> (To boot from the USB stick I use F9 when starting the 2133)
[14:21] <dani__> thanks a lot.
[14:21] <dani__> bye
[14:21] <Krizz> you guys just made me love ubuntu that much more =)
[14:21] <david00`> Anyone have any ideas?  I verified the md5sum of the .img already
[14:22] <ux> Krizz, ))
[14:22] <joaopinto> david00`, why don't use the usb creator tool, doesn't it work for the remix iso ?
[14:22] <david00`> joaopinto: I don't have a ubuntu machine already, only another distro
[14:22] <joaopinto> ah :\
[14:22] <ux> Krizz, i'm usinc hp raid util for monitoring my raid
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> david00`: this will help to get the OS on the stick. The other stuff is for an EEEPC and can be ignored: http://nousessence.com/node/99
[14:23] <Krizz> http://www.kjell.com/?item=38314&path=97000000,97500000,108000000,109500000 < anyone know if this card is going to work with ubuntu 9.04?
[14:23] <papito> when i use gnome, there is a wireless software that is next to the clock which connects to the internet. I want to use wmaker because its faster, but it doent load that program. how do I load the wireless from command line ?
[14:24] <david00`> Thanks ActionParsnip