[09:35] <Ireal> aloha*
[09:35] <gonzoism> pixelation synaptic ?
[09:35] <pixelation> GUI, there was a side bar, and you would click the type of downloads you wanted to browse. You would put checkmarks next to the items you wanted to download. And then when ready you would hit the green checkmark at the top and the downloads would start.
[09:35] <Flannel> pixelation: synaptic package manager.
[09:35] <ruperto652> hola
[09:36] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: it seems to me that unless pam_mkhomedir is failing horribly, all your users are being bounced back as the default login
[09:36] <pixelation> I don't think it was that.
[09:36] <gonzoism> pixelation or was it in kde ?  adept ?
[09:36] <Flannel> pixelation: system > admin > Synaptic package manager.  It was.  Is.  gnome or kde or what?
[09:36] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: any suggestions?
[09:36] <pixelation> I recall it starting with a 'x'. It wasn't adept. It might've been in gnome.
[09:37] <Flannel> pixelation: it's synaptic.  Go check it out, youll see.
[09:37] <gonzoism> pixelation run the synaptic command
[09:37] <pixelation> That isn't it.
[09:37] <pixelation> The other program had icons instead of text.
[09:37] <pixelation> It started with an 'x'.
[09:38] <gonzoism> pixelation is it currently installed ?
[09:38] <pixelation> It was.
[09:38] <pixelation> Now it isn't.
[09:38] <gonzoism> pixelation do you have any reason to believe it might not be now ?
[09:38] <gonzoism> pixelation ah
[09:38] <Flannel> pixelation: it's automatix.  You don't want to use it.  It breaks systems.
[09:38] <pixelation> O rly?
[09:39] <Flannel> http://linuxfud.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/automatix2.png  looks like that?
[09:39] <nrdb> I installed the odbc-postgresql package, but when I start OpenOffice Database connection wizard it says libodbc.so.1 and there isn't, there is a libodbcinst.so.1 how do I fix this ?
[09:39] <pixelation> Yeah that was it.
[09:39] <pixelation> Automatix.
[09:39] <DjViper> pixelation: smartass comments are lame...
[09:39] <Flannel> pixelation: yeah.  That breaks your system.  You don't want to use it.
[09:39] <gonzoism> pixelation i use it.  every time.  i like it.  i don't understand why other people hate it.
[09:39] <Flannel> gonzoism: because it breaks things
[09:39] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: check the config on the ldap server, and make sure its logging into the nfs with the users instead of nobody
[09:39] <pixelation> DjViper: no really it is.
[09:40] <hume> gonzoism, got any idea on how to make audacity encode as mp3 on the fly?
[09:40] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: Logging into the nfs?
[09:40] <pixelation> Thank you room.
[09:41] <gonzoism> hume  i'll check
[09:41] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: sounds like you have one server with LDAP, another with your filesystems and directories, and the third being the user
[09:42] <hideandseek> Hi, is there a way to force screen resolutions?  My max screen revolution right now is 800x600 and my monitor supports much higher than that.
[09:42] <LeoDioxide> users tries to login to home directory, server #2 goes to the ldap, authenticates, ldap says "great, give him a default user account"
[09:43] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: yeah, well thats the plan
[09:43] <gonzoism> hume k
[09:43] <gonzoism> hume record your sounds/voice then export as mp3.
[09:43] <mcmx_> home directories are mounted through fstab straight to /home from the fileserver
[09:43] <gonzoism> hume its in the first dropdown menu
[09:44] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: so either the LDAP server is seeing nobody and assigning everyone a default account, or samba is just failing to use the LDAP server and using the default account
[09:44] <mcmx_> there is no samba in use the client machines are ubuntu
[09:44] <gonzoism> hume  see it ?
[09:44] <hume> gonzoism, ok, but then it saves it temporarily as another, larger, format.... until encoded as mp3. but i'll guess that's what i need to do
[09:45] <LeoDioxide> oh, it's not that kind of plugin...
[09:45] <hume> right now i ran into a problem: it cannot play sound, there is a problem with audio device... you know how to find out which device to use?
[09:46] <hideandseek> !resolution
[09:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <jetscreamer> !info hwinfo
[09:48] <ubotu> hwinfo: Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.11-3 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 108 kB
[09:48] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: I dunno man, turn off the default account, and see if the LDAP logs show anyone even logging in
[09:49] <andreas_> Hi. Can someone please help me install some fonts that I have downloaded?
[09:49] <Flannel> !fonts | andreas_
[09:49] <ubotu> andreas_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:49] <Ausicaemia> I'll ask again now
[09:50] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[09:50] <Ausicaemia> Forum thread for more specific details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483699
[09:50] <usuario_> ola
[09:50] <jessid> hello. I would like to put my laptop to hibernate and in theory it can, but when i try to "restore" it (dont know how to call that process) it never starts again. i have to turn it off (pushing the power button during 5 secs)and turn it on again... Is is possible to fix that and make the hybernation work well???  Thanks a lot!!!
[09:50] <usuario_> q pasa
[09:50] <usuario_> ???
[09:51] <andreas_> Flannel:Thanks
[09:52] <jpwoods> quit
[09:53] <marfeath> is it possible to cat a virtual terminal's stdout? (i'm ssh'ed on a box and I want to read the contents of another terminal)
[09:53] <gonzoism> lots of joiners
[09:53] <matason> Hi, I plugged in a usb keyboard last week for an hour or so and ever since my laptop has num-lock on by default - any ideas? I'm running Gnome on Ubuntu 7.04
[09:54] <osphy> any how-to for xgl on feisty fawn.
[09:54] <kuzmaster> hey everyone
[09:54] <marfeath> !compiz | osphy
[09:54] <ubotu> osphy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:54] <kuzmaster> !ntfs
[09:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:54] <gonzoism> matason i think there is an option for that in the menu.  under user pref.'s  keyboard maybe
[09:54] <kuzmaster> !fuse
[09:54] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:55] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g
[09:55] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:55] <kuzmaster> !ntfs-3g
[09:55] <matason> gonzoism: thanks I'll check it out
[09:55] <mitrovarr> anyone know how to get rid of the redirect that makes the kernel load the nvidia_new module when you try to load the nvidia one?
[09:55] <Flannel> use ntfs-3g, it's built-in on feisty (just have to enable it)
[09:56] <hideandseek> !beryl
[09:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:56] <someone2005> ok I'm confused does ubuntu use Motif or GTK ?
[09:56] <mitrovarr> I accidentally installed the nvidia-glx-new package and now it refuses to let me use the regular nvidia driver
[09:57] <tritium> someone2005: gnome uses GTK.  Very little uses Motif any more.
[09:57] <hume> gonzoism, i got a problem in audacity with playback, it seems it cannot play through the alsa device set in preferences, but I cannot change it. You know how to manage this?
[09:57] <someone2005> ok thanks I'll give that a try...
[09:58] <kuzmaster> how safe is it to use ntfs-3g on ubuntu to rename files on ntfs drives?
[09:58] <marfeath> kuzmaster: I use it on a regular basis, if it is just xp you are fine
[09:58] <kuzmaster> thanks
[09:59] <wigfreitz> whats the ubuntu mozilla room? I cant find it
[09:59] <marfeath> no problem
[09:59] <Tom47> marfeath: you may find yr answer amongst this lot ... http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/handle_terminal_output.jsp
[09:59] <marfeath> Tom47: thanks!
[10:00] <Flannel> wigfreitz: that'd be because there isn't one
[10:01] <matason> gonzoism: Couldn't see any specific setting regarding num-lock on boot, I know KDE has this option from my googling
[10:01] <matason> And there's plenty of instructions of how to get num-lock on by default!
[10:01] <wigfreitz> Flannel: there bloody is
[10:02] <Flannel> wigfreitz: no, there isn't.  This is the channel where you'd ask Ubuntu questions that have to do with FF/seamonkey/et al.
[10:02] <wigfreitz> Flannel, you talk poo mate #ubuntu-mozillateam
[10:04] <mitrovarr> well, I managed to extract a solution to the nvidia_new thing from google.  Anyone interested?
[10:04] <jetscreamer> what is an nvidia_new thing
[10:05] <mitrovarr> well, I installed nvidia-glx-new by mistake since I thought I have a geforce 6 in here but it's really a 4
[10:05] <jetscreamer> o
[10:05] <mitrovarr> but no matter what I did, it refused to load module nvidia from nvidia-glx instead
[10:05] <mitrovarr> even despite doing a complete removal of nvidia-glx-new
[10:06] <mitrovarr> there's a hidden file in /lib/linux-restricted-modules that redirects it.  Get rid of it and it's fixed
[10:06] <mitrovarr> it apparently happens with nvidia-glx-legacy too
[10:06] <mitrovarr> well, i'm rebooting
[10:08] <kuzmaster> !ntfs
[10:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:10] <dosage> Having random ubunto lockup issues, is there a good channel to ask some questions in?
[10:10] <dosage> Ubuntu*
[10:10] <LeoDioxide> why yes, yes it is!
[10:10] <enviouz> dosage:  like x crashing or something else?
[10:11] <dosage> Total Freeze, no mouse, no keyboard, no interation at all
[10:11] <dosage> Power button is the only solution
[10:11] <enviouz> i seen that happen only once before
[10:11] <enviouz> ati graphics?
[10:11] <dosage> yeah
[10:11] <marcin__> dddd
[10:11] <MISTERTibbs> dosage, dmesg|more will give you a log
[10:12] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: It appears i cannot change ownership of a file on any nfsv4 share even if the permissions permit this, it works fine on the local file system, any ideas on that?
[10:12] <enviouz> using restricted driver?
[10:12] <dosage> default ati drivers
[10:12] <mcmx_> That would be a cause of the home directory prob
[10:12] <enviouz> ahh ic nvm
[10:13] <enviouz> i asked becaus ethe old ati restricted driver was bugged
[10:13] <dosage> I was thinking about switching to the drivers provided by ATI, but I am ... scared
[10:13] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: that is interesting, can you login as root and try?
[10:13] <crazed> :)
[10:14] <yo2k> !wine
[10:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:14] <crazed> i <3 ubuntu
[10:14] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: i am trying to change permissions as root no avail. its nfsv3 sorry
[10:14] <crazed> this channel makes me happy :
[10:14] <dosage> I thought it might be my use of compiz, but I get the same random lockups with and without
[10:14] <hideandseek> How do I add more workspaces?
[10:15] <enviouz> dosage:  dont switch to the ati driver from the repo. its bugged. i have a link to the new packages but they never will be put in the repos
[10:15] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: are the filesystems mounted read-only?  I know that over a network sometimes you won't get errors
[10:16] <matason> hideandseek: There may be other ways but this is how I know, add a workspace switcher to a panel then right-click and choose prefs, there's an option for number of workspaces there
[10:16] <dosage> Why not?
[10:16] <mcmx_> no my options in exports is (rw,sync) i can create directories on the share ok
[10:16] <mcmx_> and they do belong to the user once created but try and chown it to another user it fails
[10:16] <dosage> alright, I might be on the wrong page ... I am using the drivers that are part of the base text based install
[10:17] <mcmx_> permission denied
[10:17] <LeoDioxide> permission denied as root, I've never heard of it
[10:17] <dosage> should I look for something that is newer?
[10:17] <jepes> where can i find  a big list of supported printers? i would like to use the list as a reference for selling pc's with ubuntu installed.
[10:17] <enviouz> dosage:  those are the open source drivers right?
[10:17] <dosage> yes I am retty sure
[10:18] <gonzoism> LeoDioxide sometimes you get those when trying to delete files with the immutable attribute.  (lsattr  or chattr +i filename.txt)
[10:18] <yo2k> !cups
[10:18] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:18] <enviouz> ok idk about them ones. i only use the closed drivers
[10:18] <dosage> The only restricted drivers I am using would be the atheros for my wifi
[10:18] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: i know i cant get my head round it lol
[10:18] <gonzoism> mcmx_ are you deleting ?
[10:19] <dosage> I have an older ati card though, the forums seem to conclude I sould continue with the default open drivers
[10:19] <yo2k> !cups | jepes
[10:19] <ubotu> jepes: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:19] <enviouz> dosage:  ati rage by chance?
[10:19] <dosage> mobility 9100
[10:19] <MadMax75adsl> o?
[10:19] <dosage> <-- on a laptop
[10:20] <mcmx_> gonzoism: yeah  and its still creating directories as nobody
[10:20] <gonzoism> !ati | gonzoism
[10:20] <jepes> thanks
[10:20] <enviouz> i dont know much about ati's numbering. how old is it?
[10:20] <gonzoism> mcmx_ does lsof | grep dirname show anything ?
[10:20] <dosage> 2 years or so
[10:20] <MrOtacon> hey guys - is there anyway i can add myself as a root so that i don't have to type in a password when i sudo stuff?
[10:21] <MrOtacon> i added myself to sudoers through "sudo visudo"
[10:21] <mcmx_> gonzoism: nope
[10:21] <MrOtacon> and added my user as a root with "sudo adduser me root"
[10:21] <gonzoism> MrOtacon yeah, there is a sudoers group or something in the config in the menu
[10:21] <GeekMaster1> I'm back
[10:21] <GeekMaster1> Wondering if there was anyone else that was experienced with VMWare that I haven't talked to yet.
[10:22] <enviouz> idk why they would suggest that. maybe the closed drivers dont support that exact card
[10:22] <dosage> enviouz: you thinking the issues might be video card related?
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> I'm having a real hard time making my VMWare with Vista 32 bit Home Premium installed on my Ubuntu Feisty seamless as if it's a part of Ubuntu as I have seen on other guides and posts.
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> So far what I've done is:
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> -Install RDesktop
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> -Install Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) on VMWare
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> -InstallVMWare Tools on my Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) VM
[10:22] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: I cant find that man - would chaning my main group to root work? also - do i have to change uid?
[10:22] <enviouz> idk much about the open drivers but it may be.
[10:23] <gonzoism> MrOtacon  see the user admin thing in the menu ?  are you in gnome ?
[10:23] <enviouz> let me check once and see if the closed drivers support taht card
[10:23] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: yeah - im in gnome - admin>users n groups
[10:23] <gonzoism> MrOtacon   you just have to add yourself to the sudoers group
[10:24] <dosage> Thanks env, loving ubuntu, but the lockups are getting to me
[10:24] <milestone> Hi all
[10:24] <GeekMaster1> If ANYONE can help me please contact me at : AIM: danielmichel0101 Yahoo~: danielmichel0101 MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ICQ: 488336961 GTalk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:24] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: thats the thing - there isn't a sudoers group
[10:24] <Ind[y] > I have installed openssh-server. How do I use it? Through which command?
[10:24] <gonzoism> MrOtacon ah.  weird. i somehow added my dad to it the other day.
[10:24] <gonzoism> MrOtacon feisty
[10:24] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: yeah
[10:24] <gonzoism> MrOtacon maybe a root group then
[10:24] <yo2k> Ind[y] : man ssh
[10:25] <milestone> I have an edgy servcer to which I only have ssh access. Now I want to remotely configure software raid 1. I found a howto for the process for red hat, which should be easily adaptable
[10:25] <JP> i have uninstalled a lot of evolution, but now i have also uninstalled some thing like gnome panel so my gnome has no taskbar anymore...
[10:25] <Peppery> Noob question but how do I cp a bunch of directories to the current one?
[10:25] <MrOtacon> yeah - there is root group... i just changed myself to it - hopefully it'll work.. let me reoot to try :)
[10:25] <Peppery> I get errors about it omitting directories.
[10:25] <hehellp> hi
[10:25] <milestone> looking at /etc/fstab I see lines starting with UUID is that a label or what is that?
[10:25] <hehellp> how can i solve this when i boot this 7.04 live cd it asks for username and password?
[10:25] <MrOtacon> also - the shutdown -P command just halts my comp instead of shutting it down... does anyone know why this is? apci is enabled in the bios
[10:25] <yo2k> Peppery: man cp
[10:25] <hideandseek> how do I find out if my Nvidia drivers are up to date?
[10:26] <hehellp> what causes this to ask for username and password?
[10:27] <Peppery> yo2k: Thats not helpful.
[10:27] <gonzoism> hideandseek  glxinfo |grep irect    does it say Yes ?
[10:28] <KingMoila> !ati
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <milestone> the raid howto is available via http://togami.com/~warren/guides/remoteraidcrazies/
[10:28] <hideandseek> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:28] <hideandseek> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:28] <hideandseek> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:28] <hideandseek> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:28] <stewraz> can i get some help please, i have just switched out to ubuntu, from windows. i am tryying to get some torrents downloading, however they seem to go very slow when i compare it to what i was getting through XP. i have changed the port to something and made sure it is open in the router
[10:28] <yo2k> Peppery: you mean cp = copy ?
[10:28] <stewraz> any thoughts
[10:28] <milestone> any help is highly appreciated
[10:29] <gonzoism> stewraz try a popular torrent, and let it go for a little while to make enough connections
[10:29] <gonzoism> stewraz are you getting over 40k/sec on the connection now ?  not just P2P but any connection ? or all of the added up
[10:30] <stewraz> gonzoism- i am using azurus, one thing is a little weird though, i have set the ports etc, however i still get an warnign when i start it up
[10:30] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: are you getting full connectivity, (green face) or yellow?
[10:30] <milestone> ok the UUID is something like a label. That is at least what the manpage of fstab sais
[10:30] <stewraz> i am getting about 20k
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> I'm having a real hard time making my VMWare with Vista 32 bit Home Premium installed on my Ubuntu Feisty seamless as if it's a part of Ubuntu as I have seen on other guides and posts.
[10:30] <enviouz> dosage:  ok i guess the closed driver dosent support that card nothing below 9500
[10:30] <stewraz> i have 5 going
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> So far what I've done is:
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> -Install RDesktop
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> -Install Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) on VMWare
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> -InstallVMWare Tools on my Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) VM
[10:30] <stewraz> green faces on all
[10:31] <Maman> hallo every body.... excuse me.. can someone help me how to crack .rar password in linux
[10:31] <GeekMaster1> please IM me @ AIM: danielmichel0101 Yahoo~: danielmichel0101 MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ICQ: 488336961 GTalk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:31] <stewraz> which makes me wonder why i still get a warning when i start up
[10:31] <LeoDioxide> which warning?
[10:31] <aidan> I have a Terminal profile for using IRSSI, is there any way to set that automatically through the Application In Terminal launcher?
[10:31] <Peppery> yo2k: yeah -_-
[10:31] <stewraz> somethign about the port 6118 not usable as it is taken by another ip address
[10:31] <dosage> enviouz: Thats teh impression I got, but I also noted that going through the ati website looking for linux drivers points me to the exact same ones for the 9500+
[10:31] <Peppery> The man page doesn't help
[10:31] <stewraz> i dont use port 6118
[10:32] <dosage> well using thier wizard anyway
[10:32] <hideandseek> !nvidia
[10:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:32] <yo2k> Peppery: ooo... sorry...
[10:32] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: does it choose random ports after it says unusable?  Are you saving the settings?
[10:32] <soufian> hola
[10:33] <gonzoism> stewraz try killing azureus. then do a ps ax|grep java and see if it is still running in the background somewhere
[10:33] <stewraz> nope it has saved the settings i use port 49222
[10:33] <enviouz> that is strange
[10:33] <stewraz> these setting save
[10:33] <stewraz> port 6118 was the defult that azurus sets
[10:33] <dosage> ack! somebody typed the command to show the system log, can you show me again?
[10:34] <dosage> dmesg or something like that
[10:34] <gonzoism> dosage dmesg
[10:34] <dosage> thanks =)
[10:35] <Peppery> !cp
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <hideandseek> do you know if beryl will work with a legacy card?
[10:35] <ziroday> try and find out
[10:35] <stewraz> ps ax|grep java does not show anything when azureus is closed
[10:35] <hideandseek> ya i tried
[10:36] <hideandseek> but it isnt working
[10:36] <dosage> gonzoism: will that log show information AFTER a crash and reboot?
[10:36] <yo2k> dosage: /var/log
[10:36] <LeoDioxide> dosage: thats just the current system, you can check other logs in /var/log
[10:37] <dosage> ahh, thanks so much
[10:37] <dosage> im a linux noob, can you tell?
[10:37] <LeoDioxide> so am I
[10:37] <Ireal> you still live in the DOS age ? ;P
[10:37] <Refakki> hi all
[10:39] <stewraz> this is the message i get UPnp: mapping 'UDP tracker Client port (udp/6118) has been reserved by <IP_ADDRESS> please select a diffent port
[10:39] <GeekMaster1> If I JUST installed a program and it doesn't add it'self on to any menus how do I know whow to run it?
[10:39] <stewraz> any help is appreciated
[10:39] <stewraz> i have not set this port anywhere in azurus
[10:40] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: change both the tcp and udp ports....
[10:40] <dosage> Yippy ... kaboom ... reviewing logs
[10:40] <LeoDioxide> GeekMaster1: which program?
[10:41] <stewraz> leodioxide - azureus seems to not have a setting for both, i can only see one menu to change it
[10:41] <GeekMaster1> Any given program. I want to kno wan easy way yo know how to run any given program that I have installed on my computer.
[10:41] <GeekMaster1> LeoDioxide: Any given program. I want to kno wan easy way yo know how to run any given program that I have installed on my computer.
[10:41] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: try setting your options for expert mode
[10:41] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: like what ?
[10:41] <stewraz> leodioxide - the setting is meant to change both TCP and UDP
[10:41] <Ajit> do I need internet connection to use apt-get ?
[10:41] <stewraz> mmm ok, how do i change that
[10:41] <GeekMaster1> TheWidgetFactory
[10:42] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: I think the config wizard lets you
[10:42] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: TheWidgetFactory
[10:42] <yo2k> Ajit: yes or no, see your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <mat1980> GeekMaster1: you have to know the name of the command. you could look in the file installed by the packege. Then add that command in a new entry in the menu.
[10:42] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[10:42] <Ausicaemia> Forum thread for more specific details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483699
[10:43] <stewraz> leodioxide - ok did that but it still only has the one setting for both
[10:43] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: you type dpkg -i packages / apt-get insyall packages or ..?
[10:43] <GeekMaster1> I searched my computer for thewidgetfactory wiget, factory, the widget and other variations. I KNOW it's installed. I just dont know how to run it
[10:44] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: I installed it via Synaptic
[10:44] <LeoDioxide> wow, that must be a new feature or something, my azureus has 2 seperate boxes for tcp and udp
[10:44] <SqrlKng> Hey, does anyone have experience with the "No monitor detected" error after switching to the actual nVidia driver?
[10:45] <stewraz> never mind i will try another client
[10:45] <SqrlKng> when trying to start xserver, anyway
[10:45] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: actually, via synaptic add to menu at desktop... / or type sudo updatedb
[10:45] <stewraz> thanks for ur help guys
[10:45] <dosage> would a log entry of "input: Power Button (CM) as /class/input/input7" mean what I think it means, a log of me pushing the power button?
[10:45] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: than type locate your-application
[10:46] <stewraz> one more leodioxide, why does my ratio show as red
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: it's not over 1.0
[10:46] <stewraz> i have a good ratio rating
[10:46] <stewraz> ahhh yeah im not there yet
[10:46] <stewraz> thanks
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> good luck
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> look for that UDP port!
[10:46] <stewraz> will do
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> or ignore it, its only a fallback
[10:46] <stewraz> thanks heaps, have a good night/day where ever u r
[10:47] <LeoDioxide> hehe, cya
[10:47] <mat1980> SqrlKng: once I got that error, but much time ago. Have you tried to reconfigure xorg?
[10:47] <randoman__> anyone know what package nsinstall is in
[10:47] <SqrlKng> yeah, still doesn't work using the nVidia ones.. only boots with the nv driver
[10:48] <enviouz> i think so dosage
[10:48] <yo2k> randoman__: man dpkg
[10:48] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: http://pastebin.com/935840
[10:48] <mat1980> SqrlKng: monitor is configured in the same way with both driver?
[10:49] <SqrlKng> yeah, the only thing I change is that first option
[10:49] <yo2k> !pastebin
[10:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:50] <dosage> Logs are indicating a lot of bluetooth activity around the time of crashing, is there an easy way to disable the bluetooth feature to rule it out as the cause?
[10:50] <dosage> not wifi, but bluetooth
[10:50] <mat1980> SqrlKng: sorry... no idea... there should be a channel dedicated to X. Maybe there someone could help you more.
[10:50] <SqrlKng> what would it be?
[10:50] <dawn> hi! question regarding mouse cursors for ubuntu 7.04
[10:50] <enviouz> im not sure dosage
[10:51] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: i can't open your pastebin, so slower my connection...
[10:51] <dawn> can anybody help me? om me please..
[10:51] <passbe> does anyone here know if you can set a pidgin buddy pounce to your entire contact list ?
[10:51] <dawn> pm* ^
[10:51] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:~$ thewidgetfactory
[10:51] <GeekMaster1> bash: thewidgetfactory: command not found
[10:51] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:~$
[10:51] <derek_> Hi! When I resume the computer from hibernation, why does the Wi-Fi light start glowing? And then I cannot even turn it off unless I restart/shutdown the system.
[10:52] <mat1980> SqrlKng: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=xorg
[10:52] <enviouz> dosage:  check under system-->admin-->services
[10:52] <SqrlKng> mat1980:  thanks
[10:52] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: type locate appl-name
[10:52] <mat1980> SqrlKng: you're wellcome! good luck!
[10:52] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: I did. It's in my pastebin.
[10:53] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: sudo updatedb
[10:53] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: than locate appl-name again...
[10:53] <toddy> i've installed my vsftpd,but when i upload a file to the directory /pub/upload/ it shows that "Consider using PASV.550 Permission denied."
[10:53] <randoman__> thanks, apt-get install firefox* fixed it
[10:54] <toddy> any ideas?
[10:54] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: EXACTLY what I did and showed you in the pastebin
[10:54] <randoman__> nm apt-get install firefox-dev fixed it :P
[10:55] <dosage> kaboom ... brb
[10:55] <toddy> any one can help?
[10:56] <LeoDioxide> toddy: does the ftp account have the right permissions?
[10:56] <toddy> it's the anonymous count
[10:56] <aidan> I have a Terminal profile for using IRSSI, is there any way to set that automatically through the Application In Terminal launcher?
[10:56] <LeoDioxide> so, does the directory have the right permissions then?
[10:56] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: actually all linux can find file with command locate appl-name, if you install an appl, run updatedb than you can find where it's found.
[10:57] <GeekMaster1> Thank you
[10:57] <GeekMaster1> Later guys
[10:57] <LeoDioxide> aidan: try the #irssi channel
[10:57] <toddy> the upload/ has been chmoded to 777
[10:58] <spartacus> Hi. I've got an odd problem with ATI + Desktop Effects. Now, I've got the current ATI drivers installed, and have got DRI enabled (verified with fglrxinfo, glxinfo, and xdriinfo). Yet when I run desktop-effects, I'm told " GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not supported by direct rendering context, trying indirect rendering context instead" then "GLX_SGIX_fbconfig is missing". Any hints?
[10:58] <toddy> LeoDioxide:the upload/ has been chmoded to 777
[10:58] <yo2k> toddy: owner ?
[10:59] <spartacus> I've checked FAQs and Wikis and have found a few mentions of this, but no answers :-/
[10:59] <LeoDioxide> toddy: hmm, is the vsftpd config setup to allow you access and all that good stuff?
[10:59] <mcmx_> anyone have any ideas why all files and folders on my nfs server are created with the user nobody no matter which user i am?
[10:59] <|Kamen|> hey guys and gals, I hope I'm in the right place for this, but I'm having some troule with VLC media player. whenever I try and use the scrollbar to skip forward or back, it closes the video and starts from the beginning!
[10:59] <toddy> a count named ftp what's anonymous
[10:59] <spartacus> |Kamen|: maybe your video doesn't have an index?
[11:00] <toddy> LeoDioxide:I think so!
[11:00] <yo2k> toddy: check with ls -l
[11:00] <toddy> but what could i do?
[11:00] <toddy> in the ftp?
[11:00] <LeoDioxide> at least check it
[11:00] <LeoDioxide> umm, do you have access to the vsftpd config file?
[11:00] <kraut> moin
[11:00] <Ireal> mplayer -idx will make you an index, is the movie incomplete ?
[11:00] <|Kamen|> mplayer?
[11:00] <toddy> yo2k:Okey!
[11:01] <|Kamen|> not incomplete, I dont think. they are .flv flash movies I got off youtube
[11:01] <yo2k> toddy: check if user to sign on have an access the folder/directory
[11:01] <Ireal> ah, i don't think you can easily skip through those, at least not with mplayer :)
[11:02] <|Kamen|> any good converter to put them into a better format?
[11:02] <Ireal> mencoder? i dunno
[11:02] <spartacus> mmm. flv is made to be streamed right? maybe the problem is similar... but i dunno how to work around.
[11:02] <spartacus> mencoder would be a good bet... it's part of mplayer. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/info.html
[11:03] <OxS> anyone using e17 that can help me ?
[11:03] <|Kamen|> heh. what confuses me is when viewing the files on youtube, the scrollbar works as it should
[11:03] <|Kamen|> so I've no idea why I wouldnt be able to with the downloaded file
[11:03] <dosage> env: Thanks for the tip, got the bluetooth shutdown, now just waiting for a crash
[11:04] <cheetoos> hello , where the password files are stored in ubuntu dapper ?
[11:04] <OxS> im on enlightenment using the darkness theme but all my applications backgrounds are using metacity
[11:04] <OxS> and they're really bright white and ugly
[11:04] <enviouz> good to hear. ill b back in a few
[11:04] <OxS> does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:05] <toddy> yo2k:it's the root can login!
[11:06] <toddy> should i use the chawn commend?
[11:06] <yo2k> toddy: root is user administrator, root can anything...
[11:07] <yo2k> toddy: change your owner folder with user ftp to sign in
[11:07] <yo2k> toddy: type man chown
[11:08] <dosage> anyone have an idea what "gconfd ([MyName] -5412): Failed to send buffer" would indicate in teh syslog ?
[11:08] <toddy> yo2k:i'm trying
[11:08] <yo2k> dosege: dmesg
[11:09] <dosage> yo2k: this is an entry before the crash
[11:09] <toddy> yo2k:sorry,but "No manual entry for chawn"
[11:10] <|Kamen|> isnt it chown? (still new on the commands yet)
[11:11] <yo2k> dosage: dmesg is log of all activiti on linux, sorry if don't help you...
[11:11] <yo2k> toddy: no manual?
[11:11] <yo2k> toddy: man chown right?
[11:12] <toddy> yeah,
[11:12] <LeoDioxide> toddy: does it keep crashing, or just that once?
[11:12] <LeoDioxide> rather...
[11:12] <LeoDioxide> dosage: does it keep crashing?
[11:14] <yo2k> toddy: man command --> that's manual how to type a command in linux
[11:14] <toddy> always?i have configed for two days,never archived
[11:15] <yo2k> toddy: maybe you don't install it? actually man is installed by default
[11:16] <toddy> i know,i've remove it days ago!
[11:16] <dosage> Leodioxide: yes it does, still holding from the last config change I made, so it may be fixed, but I am still investigating just in case
[11:16] <toddy> i'm getting it at once!
[11:17] <yo2k> toddy: man = manual page, sorry if i can't help you...
[11:17] <windflying>  can somebody can give me a available radio URL?
[11:18] <toddy> that's ok!
[11:18] <toddy> any way,a'm new for linux
[11:18] <|Kamen|> toddy: you have been typing chawn in channel. the command is chown with an o.
[11:19] <yo2k> toddy: i'm new in ubuntu too...
[11:19] <toddy> oh,god
[11:19] <dany_> ola
[11:20] <toddy> jo2k:hehe!it's just hard for me!
[11:20] <OxS> is there anyway to change the metacity themes in enlightenment
[11:20] <OxS> i want to have the xfce-dusk theme
[11:21] <yo2k> toddy: that's ok...
[11:21] <LeoDioxide> OxS: I did it once, it involved heading into your .enlightement directory in your home folder
[11:21] <OxS> you dont have a link do you LeoDioxide ?
[11:21] <LeoDioxide> lemme look
[11:21] <Dinocrisis> Hello
[11:22] <OxS> id also like to make nautilus --no-desktop my default file browser
[11:22] <Dinocrisis> Please the command for know dominio's name?
[11:22] <LeoDioxide> OxS: http://www3.get-e.org/E17_User_Guide/English/_pages/6.2.2.html
[11:22] <ZERO_SHIFT> \I have a problem that I'd like to get fixed
[11:22] <ZERO_SHIFT> any one?
[11:22] <LeoDioxide> ask away
[11:22] <LeoDioxide> don't ask to ask, just ask!
[11:23] <ZERO_SHIFT>  I installed SuSE and then removed it's partition however I want to get to my ubuntu partition is there a way of installing GRUB?
[11:23] <ziroday> !grub
[11:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:23] <OxS> thank you LeoDioxide
[11:24] <LeoDioxide> ZERO_SHIFT: I'd say boot a live CD and install grub gentoo-style, by hand.
[11:24] <ZERO_SHIFT> LeoDioxide, an ubuntu live cd?
[11:25] <ZERO_SHIFT> LeoDioxide,  can you install grub only
[11:25] <LeoDioxide> ZERO_SHIFT: probably a gentoo live cd, and then follow the gentoo handbook for setting up grub
[11:25] <LeoDioxide> at least, thats what I'm familiar with
[11:25] <LeoDioxide> you can install grub only, yes
[11:25] <ZERO_SHIFT> LeoDioxide, Thanks
[11:26] <ZERO_SHIFT> any SuSE users?
[11:26] <LeoDioxide> in the ubuntu channel?!
[11:26] <OxS> LeoDioxide, thats for the theme
[11:26] <OxS> my problem is all my applications
[11:27] <OxS> like xchat is white while the theme is darkness
[11:27] <OxS> and i've set everything to use the darkness theme
[11:28] <LeoDioxide> does the darkness theme have all the application tie-ins?
[11:28] <LeoDioxide> I remember e-themes being notoriously short-handed
[11:29] <andys_> My Thinkpad died!  The world is falling apart
[11:29] <OxS> the window border is the right color
[11:29] <OxS> but the rest of the applications is using Gnome's human theme i think
[11:29] <OxS> metacity is in the process list
[11:29] <Jowi> OxS, that is normal. xchat is a gtk application.
[11:30] <OxS> how can i change it to xfce-dusk
[11:30] <Jowi> OxS, there are not many native enlightenment apps.
[11:30] <yo2k> bye guys... thank's a lot...
[11:30] <toddy> yo2k:bye
[11:31] <OxS> its usuing the default gtk theme
[11:31] <OxS> someone said there was a way to change that but im clueless as to how
[11:32] <AzMoo> Hey, is there any way that when I log in, I can force a program to wait for another one to load before it starts up?
[11:32] <Jowi> OxS, change the setting with gtk-chtheme or similar app. or you can use this script I made that imports the gnome settings and uses it in other WM's. (first script on this page http://burninghands.eu/scripts.html )
[11:33] <OxS> lol
[11:33] <OxS> im trying to install gtk-chtheme right now
[11:34] <OxS> where do i extract gtk-chtheme.tar.bz2
[11:34] <greedo__> is there a way to mount iso files from nautilus, without using the command line ?
[11:34] <osfameron> double click on them?
[11:34] <greedo__> does not mount it
[11:35] <osfameron> oh.  I thought it did
[11:35] <XiXaQ> it probably should.
[11:35] <osfameron> cos I've definitely used .iso files, and I'm fare too stupid to remember the command line invocation
[11:35] <Jowi> OxS, wherever you want. in a subfolder in your home directory or in /opt for example
[11:35] <LeoDioxide> mount /directory /file?
[11:35] <OxS> i had it in my home folder
[11:35] <XiXaQ> greedo__, I think I've read about extensions for nautilus.
[11:35] <OxS> i couldnt get it to run
[11:36] <windflying> How can I stop the *less* command?
[11:36] <XiXaQ> windflying, q
[11:36] <niekie> q
[11:37] <greedo__> gonna look for that then
[11:37] <windflying> Thanks XiXaQ  niekie
[11:37] <Jowi> OxS, here http://burninghands.eu/files/gtk-chtheme-0.3.1_0.3.1-1_i386.deb (use "sudo dpkg -i filename" to install it )
[11:40] <OxS> forbidden
[11:40] <OxS> how do i set prefered apps in enlightenment
[11:40] <SqrlKng> Hello, can someone tell me where I can find the steps to update my nvidia driver?
[11:40] <hideandseek> Hi all
[11:40] <surviver> sqrlkng, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[11:41] <mat1980> SqrlKng: just update the kernel.
[11:41] <hideandseek> So I installed the updated Nvidia drivers for my legacy gf2 ti.  After installing X will no longer start.  I says "No screens found."  What do I do?!?
[11:41] <supremesonic> is it me or is google down?
[11:42] <surviver> it u :D
[11:42] <Ireal> hideandseek: check the logs :)
[11:42] <hideandseek> where can I find those?>
[11:42] <Ireal> hideandseek: somewhere in /var/log, look for files named Xorg.*
[11:42] <greedo__> another question, under windows my lcd screen looks ok, but under ubuntu it looks blurry . is there anything to tweak ?
[11:43] <surviver> find the log in /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <surviver> hideandseek, here u find them /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <Jowi> OxS, sorry. try again now
[11:44] <hideandseek> Ireal: I had to boot into Ubuntu with the CD, since all I can do is use the terminal
[11:44] <Ireal> hideandseek: well.. you have to use the terminal ;)
[11:44] <hideandseek> surviver:  I am looking at that file, but I dont see any logs here just my settings.  I see different screens
[11:44] <Ireal> surviver: that's the configuration file, not the log.
[11:44] <surviver> hideandseek, u got this bleu screen before you login?
[11:45] <hideandseek> Ireal: well I have no problem with that, its just i cant pull up wiki and look at the solution, or talk to you kids on irc
[11:45] <surviver> ireal, yeah thought he could use it to boot in normal mode
[11:45] <hideandseek> yes
[11:45] <SqrlKng> wait, hideandseek -- what graphics card are you using?
[11:45] <hideandseek> GF2 ti
[11:45] <hideandseek> legacy drivers
[11:45] <hideandseek> I got the updated drivers from Nvidia's web site
[11:45] <Ireal> hideandseek: i suppose that's true (irssi is a text IRC client)
[11:46] <hideandseek> never used it, I just installed linux for the first time about 3 hours ago
[11:46] <Ireal> hideandseek: oo, spiffy :)
[11:46] <hideandseek> I was trying to get beryl to work and then found out that my drivers werent up to date so that wouldnt work
[11:46] <hideandseek> but now I get a blue screen when I bootup telling me that I'm missing screens
[11:46] <Ireal> hideandseek: you could try to run the nvidia-config application when in the terminal, if i'm not mistaken, it configures your xorg.conf properly. That's the file that tells the X-server how to act :)
[11:47] <hideandseek> can I run that right now even though I am using the CD?
[11:47] <OxS> gtk-theme-switch isnt working
[11:48] <Ireal> hideandseek: don't think so
[11:48] <surviver> ireal, maybe he has to try to get the log file from cd place it somewhere on stick , and just replace it with his? log
[11:48] <hideandseek> so I have to reboot to terminal and then run the file
[11:48] <Ireal> hideandseek: yes, don't forget to run it using sudo: sudo nvidia-config :)
[11:48] <hideandseek> is there somewhere i can paste my xorg.conf file or email it?
[11:49] <Jowi> OxS, gtk-chtheme that you got from me? what's wrong with it?
[11:49] <Ireal> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <kelvie> I need to reinstall ubuntu -- is there a file somewhere that holds the name of every package I installed?
[11:49] <kelvie> and a quick way to install em all at once
[11:49] <kelvie> after I reinstall
[11:49] <CheshireViking> !clone | kelvie
[11:49] <ubotu> kelvie: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[11:50] <hideandseek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27106/
[11:50] <kelvie> ubotu: ugh.. so I have to chroot?
[11:50] <kelvie> er
[11:50] <kelvie> CheshireViking: ^
[11:50] <CheshireViking> kelvie, chroot?
[11:50] <kelvie> CheshireViking: from the liveCD
[11:50] <kelvie> CheshireViking: I can't access the computer directly..
[11:51] <kelvie> CheshireViking: the kernel is screwed up
[11:51] <Ireal> hideandseek: that's the x.org file from the CD or your HD ?
[11:51] <hideandseek> from my HD
[11:52] <Ireal> hideandseek: okay, to use the nvidia drivers change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia"
[11:52] <kelvie> bah I'll just chroot
[11:52] <CheshireViking> kelvie, i don't know, i've never used this method, i'd just seen the factoid, not sure whether you'll be able to go ahead using it, maybe someone else in the channel would know, but I'm afraid I can't help anymore with that
[11:52] <kelvie> it isn't that hard
[11:52] <niekie> Hmm, isn
[11:52] <kelvie> CheshireViking: it's fine, you helped plenty :)
[11:52] <kelvie> I'm just lazy and wanted to knwo if there's an easier way :O
[11:52] <niekie> Hmm, isn't it the other way around? (nvidia to nv)
[11:52] <Ajit> my system takes 6 minutes to boot feisty fawn. other OS take 2 minute (I have windows xp in C drive, windows 2000 professional in D drive and Windows Advance server in E drive , all are fat 32) , ubuntu is in ext3.
[11:52] <Ireal> hideandseek: doesn't look bad otherwise :)
[11:52] <kelvie> s/wo/ow
[11:52] <niekie> Or maybe I'm confused now..
[11:52] <CheshireViking> kelvie, no probs
[11:53] <kelvie> Ajit: I've found reiserfs to be a fair bit faster, but you won't approach windows speeds
[11:53] <OxS> thank you Jowi
[11:53] <kelvie> Ajit: if possible, you can try to use an initrd image with hibernate/suspend2
[11:53] <kelvie> but that's more like a workaround
[11:53] <kelvie> and not very flexible
[11:54] <hideandseek> Ireal, so all i need to do is make that one change?
[11:54] <Ajit> kelvie: what is initrd image with hibernate/suspend2
[11:54] <kelvie> Ajit: basically.. you boot your computer, and as soon as it's finished you create a hibernate image
[11:54] <Ajit> i am less familier with linux
[11:54] <Jowi> Ajit, it has nothing to do with the fs type. it's possibly something at boot that hangs or take a long time to perform (can be network configuration trying to find an ip address for example)
[11:54] <kelvie> Ajit: and in essence, you "unhibernate" every time on boot
[11:54] <hideandseek> Ireal, when I try to save it says i dont have permissions.  I'm using gedit, do I have to use pico, nano, or vi?
[11:55] <Ireal> hideandseek: it is a root file, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[11:55] <Ireal> hideandseek: you wouldn't want regular users messing with yer xorg files now would ya :)
[11:55] <kelvie> it saves loads of time, but I can see a lot of ... not so fun things happening
[11:56] <kelvie> so I wouldn't do it esp. if you're unfamilliar with linux :P
[11:56] <Ireal> but 6 minutes is /very/ long :)
[11:56] <hideandseek> well as far as I know I'm the only user
[11:56] <Jowi> Ajit, normal boot time should be around 90 seconds or so.
[11:56] <Ireal> hideandseek: well there's your account, and the root account :) and the account you work with is restricted so it cannot mess with the system too much
[11:57] <Ajit> kelvie: if suppose I dont do unhibernate every time then what would happen?
[11:57] <kelvie> Ajit: hrm?
[11:57] <kelvie> Ajit: you're not doing it right now :P
[11:57] <Ajit> no
[11:57] <Ireal> hideandseek: to perform changes to the system you need root-priviledges which you can attain using the sudo comand. you just type your own password after executing it and you have ascended to greater power!
[11:57] <kelvie> Ajit: of course, you have to set up the option in GRUB/LILO or whatever to boot normally
[11:57] <kelvie> and nothing ill will come of that
[11:57] <supremesonic> !partitionencryption
[11:58] <hideandseek> Ireal: ya, I took a couple of unix courses, but I kinda slept through em a little bit.  Wish I paid more attention.  You said I can use some kind of terminal chat program right?  What do I have to do to use it?
[11:58] <supremesonic> any remember that program there can encrypt a whole usb pen or other partition on the fly?
[11:58] <Jowi> kelvie, why suggesting a hibernation offer instead of fixing the issue?
[11:58] <Ajit> I just installed on saturday to use as my personal desktop at my home. currently i am in office.
[11:58] <supremesonic> I forgot it name
[11:58] <kelvie> Jowi: the thing is, linux can't boot as fast as windows
[11:58] <Jowi> kelvie, nonsense
[11:58] <SqrlKn1> Hello ... so I've gotten the nvidia-glx-new thing updated, can someone tell me how to get the nvidia kernel updated, too?
[11:59] <Jowi> kelvie, 6 minutes = something is wrong
[11:59] <kelvie> Jowi: a well tuned windows XP can boot in something like 20 seconds
[11:59] <kelvie> Jowi: well if it takes two minutes for windows..
[11:59] <Ajit> I am using default loader GRUB as I saw in my system.
[11:59] <scorp123> Hi all ..
[11:59] <supremesonic> if you install only the linux kernel and gnu utils bootup is like 5seconds
[11:59] <kelvie> Jowi: well then be my guest and help him, I'mma go to sleep :P
[11:59] <selinuxium> hi all, I am onsite at a clients and the firewall here blocks port 22,any ideas on how I can set up a ssh session?
[11:59] <Jello> Hi
[12:00] <Ireal> hideandseek: check your pm :)
[12:00] <Jello> anyone an idea http://pastebin.com/935861 ? :s
[12:00] <Jello> just installed but sh path, path doesn't work :s
[12:00] <supremesonic> anyone remember what that encryption partition tool is called for *nix systems?
[12:00] <scorp123> selinuxium: how did you get to this IRC channel then?
[12:00] <Ajit> kellvie: what changes should I do in grub file.
[12:01] <hideandseek> in nano what do you press to exit?
[12:01] <Jello> ctr + x
[12:01] <scorp123> selinuxium: ... I'm assuming here that IRC would be blocked too ...
[12:01] <hideandseek> ok thanks
[12:01] <Ireal> hideandseek: i'm going to lunch :)
[12:01] <hideandseek> pz
[12:01] <hideandseek> thanks for the help
[12:02] <selinuxium> scorp, using a java port 80 vnc to my winblows pc at the office, then ircing from there....
[12:02] <dosage> !ati
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <scorp123> selinuxium: do they have a proxy then? e.g. Port 80 can get out?
[12:02] <Jowi> Ajit, when ubuntu boots, hit escape button to see what is taking long to start.
[12:03] <Ajit> ok.
[12:03] <selinuxium> scorp123: port 80 goes out yes...
[12:04] <scorp123> selinuxium: did you try to use the -p option? e.g. force ssh to use port 80?
[12:05] <scorp123> selinuxium: also, if they have a SOCKS proxy, ssh protocol 2 should be able to pass through.
[12:05] <scorp123> selinuxium: but the easiest thing would of course be if they changed their firewall to let ssh connections out.
[12:05] <Ajit> i am very curious to use linux and shift my desktop from windows to linux but i am efiiciently use this with the help of you community people. I am using windows since long time.
[12:08] <leagris> Bless the lowlattency kernel. Got mencoder stuck at 100% for several hours without ever noticing any slowness. The CPU fan running full speed alerted me though ;D
[12:09] <hideandseek> ok so I tried editing the xorg.conf file but apparently when I used the CD it actually saved my changes, so changed the nv to nvidia didnt change anything
[12:10] <hideandseek> I'm still getting the same blue screen when I boot into ubuntu
[12:10] <Jello> Arg, okay
[12:10] <Jello> I download something
[12:10] <Jello> but why can I run it :s
[12:10] <Jello> http://pastebin.com/935861 :s
[12:10] <dosage> ok ... big question ....
[12:10] <Jello> I make a fault
[12:10] <Jello> but... what :\
[12:10] <Jello> I installed with apt-get install
[12:10] <scorp123> !enter | Jello
[12:10] <ubotu> Jello: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:11] <Jello> okat scorp123  and ubotu
[12:11] <Jello> *okay
[12:11] <Lepric> Hi!
[12:11] <scorp123> ubotu is a bot ;)
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <scorp123> LOL
[12:11] <hideandseek> I also tried using nvidia-config but it says it isnt valid.  Any ideas about configuring my screens?
[12:11] <Jello> I know, but I wanted to say 'thanxs' to him
[12:12] <scorp123> Jello: yes, he's a useful little bot. Rescued me many times with useful info :)
[12:12] <bvod> may i ask how do i turn on x-cd-roast?
[12:12] <hideandseek> also is it possible to revert back to my previous settings before I loaded the new nvidia drivers that hosed my X
[12:12] <Jello> but scorp123 , how do you run an app? sh 'file' gives 'no binairy..',and just the path gives the error on http://pastebin.com/935861 , I just don't get it
[12:13] <dosage> I am going to change video drivers .... in the event I am no longer able to boot after the install, how can I revert using the command line?
[12:13] <MR> bvod: Maybe you need to install it? use apt-get install programname
[12:13] <bvod> it is installed
[12:13] <hideandseek> Wow dosage sounds like we both have the same question :o
[12:13] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[12:13] <bvod> it says: warning no root configuration file found, superuse must start and configure it first before other users can use it
[12:13] <Ausicaemia> Forum thread for more specific details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483699
[12:13] <dosage> lol, my bad for having to look at the keyboard when typing
[12:14] <scorp123> Jello: usually you just invoke the binary's name ... as you did. Confusing this is :-/
[12:15] <Dave> hello everyone, i have a problem and have searched everywhere but cannot find a cure! anyone available for help please?
[12:15] <Ausicaemia> ^ Don't ask to ask a question, just ask it.
[12:15] <scorp123> !ask | Dave
[12:15] <ubotu> Dave: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> learn the bot that answer
[12:15] <Dave> lol fair enough
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> like !question < nick
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> oh
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> u did
[12:15] <Nafallo> !dvd
[12:15] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> :D
[12:15] <Jello> mm, it's strange , cannot execute binary file :\ I just don't get it
[12:15] <Ausicaemia> So anyway, does anyone know why my startup is doing that?
[12:15] <Nafallo> !dvdiso
[12:16] <scorp123> Jello: what are the permissions on that file?
[12:16] <verb_> guys when I use the command dd to make an iso of a CD  like this "$ dd if=/dev/hda of=mycd.iso " it gives me this error "dd: reading `/dev/hda': Input/output error"   what's the problem ?
[12:16] <Lundn> have someone gotten the banshee daap to work ? mine is connecting for ever to my itunes.. it worked when both had itunes (before i installed ubuntu)
[12:16] <scorp123> Jello: also, that game ... maybe it has its own forum where you might get more help?
[12:16] <Dave> well i have a rhine-II network card and it doesnt show up in ubuntu networking
[12:16] <Jello> user: root, group: groot, -rwxr-xr-x
[12:16] <ubotu> DVD ISOs are available via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[12:16] <Jello> *root
[12:16] <scorp123> verb_: are you sure /dev/hda is your CD ??  /dev/hda is usually the first harddisk ...
[12:16] <Nafallo> baah. I wanna know what's on the DVD ISOs. what extra value do they bring? :-)
[12:17] <miramana> verb_: try /dev/hdc
[12:17] <_Codeman_> Ok, I lock my session, my brother starts a new session and is on for a bit, then logs off, then it goes to a gray screen and doesn't respond to anything except Ctrl+Alt+Del, any idea why it would do that
[12:17] <[ThC] Primski> nafallo, think all distros are up, ubuntu, kubuntu and stuff
[12:17] <verb_> scorp123, yes , I have 2 cd drives one is hda and the other is hdb
[12:17] <scorp123> verb_: so your harddisks are SATA or SCSI then?
[12:18] <scorp123> verb_: e.g. /dev/sda and /dev/sdb ....
[12:18] <hideandseek> Is it possible to revert back to before I loaded the new video drivers so I can stop getting the blue screen and try again?
[12:18] <Nafallo> [ThC] Primski: can I choose at boot what I want to run? desktop, alternate or server etc? :-)
[12:18] <[ThC] Primski> Nafallo, hm dunno, havent tried that, you would probably have to have differnet installs for that.
[12:18] <Ind[y] > A good DAV client?
[12:19] <[ThC] Primski> on dvd, when installing, you can choose what to install, ubutnu server/desktop, kubuntu/...
[12:19] <scorp123> verb_: looking at that error message again which you posted ... maybe the CD you try to copy is damaged?
[12:19] <Nafallo> [ThC] Primski: yea, I just want them supported out of the same disk. that might add value for me :-)
[12:19] <Dave> can anybody help me with my problem? i'm sorry im a bit of a n00b lol
[12:19] <nesta> ./j #ubuntu-fr
[12:19] <Nafallo> [ThC] Primski: kewl, thanks :-)
[12:19] <hideandseek> dave just ask the question
[12:19] <Dave> i have lol
[12:19] <Dave> well i have a rhine-II network card and it doesnt show up in ubuntu networking
[12:19] <[ThC] Primski> dave, rhine-II...whats that? manufacturer? and no drivers ?
[12:20] <scorp123> Dave: I don't know that card ... what brand is that?
[12:20] <hideandseek> System Preferences->Restricted devices
[12:20] <Dave> rhine-II is the card
[12:20] <Dave> via technologies
[12:20] <OxS> in system > preferences > network proxy > advanced config there was three settings that got removed and i cant add them back
[12:20] <OxS> how can i do it manually?
[12:20] <scorp123> Dave: read about pastebin ....
[12:21] <scorp123> !pastebin | Dave
[12:21] <[ThC] Primski> Dave, does your networking work on Ubutnu Live CD ?
[12:21] <ubotu> Dave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <Dave> ok cool
[12:21] <scorp123> Dave: can you please do a "sudo lspci" and paste the results on the page you were just given please?
[12:21] <verb_> scorp123,  sorry for not replying , I got busy suddenly  ....it's SCSI I Think  , and the CD is not damaged (it's a playstation game that works perfectly in ePSXe)
[12:21] <Dave> and no it doesnt work in live cd
[12:21] <[ThC] Primski> :s
[12:21] <Dave> ok scorp123 no worries
[12:21] <scorp123> verb_: PlayStation games are copy-protected as far as I know
[12:22] <Dave> well the problem is, im not on that computer lol
[12:22] <scorp123> verb_: copying them with standard methods might therefore fail ....
[12:22] <verb_> scorp123,  but they work in the emulator
[12:22] <scorp123> verb_: it's an original disk?
[12:22] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a DAV client?
[12:22] <verb_> scorp123, what do you recommend ?
[12:22] <Dave> as i cannot connect to the net :(
[12:22] <OxS> how do i add *.local localhost <IP_ADDRESS>/8  to system > preferences > network proxy > advanced config manually?
[12:22] <Tribes> well, my english is not very good but I try to help you jello, i think you have to run the programm with root rights
[12:22] <scorp123> verb_: maybe your CD drive has problems reading some sectors ... can you try it in a different drive?
[12:23] <Theleo> i have used mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb to make an f 32 filesystem for my disk.Windows does recognize that this is a FAT filesystem formated disk but does not let me assign a letter on the drive.I was told that this was due to the 32GB limitation of FAT32 imposed by windows.Any ideas to give an option that will format the drive correctly
[12:23] <Dave> but when i go lspci, my network card comes up
[12:23] <Dave> do*
[12:23] <scorp123> Dave: do you have a USB stick? You could copy and paste the output to a text file, put this on a USB stick and then paste from there.
[12:23] <[ThC] Primski> what does it say ? any errors ?
[12:23] <OxS> does anybody know?
[12:23] <verb_> scorp123, yes , as I told you , I have 2 drives and tried them both , they gave the exact same error ....maybe it's protection as you said , is there any way to backup this CD
[12:23] <verb_> ?
[12:24] <Dave> good idea scorp123
[12:24] <OxS> what file does system > pref > network proxy > advanced config handle?
[12:24] <scorp123> verb_: hmmmmm .... maybe you will find instructions on sites such as "gamecopyworld.com" ... but please note that we are going off-topic here, and that site might be illegal depending on where you live.
[12:25] <OxS> ignore host list
[12:25] <OxS> how do i edit ignore host list manually?
[12:25] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI DAV client please?
[12:25] <verb_> scorp123,  even in the US it's completely legal to have backups :) ...thanks for your time scorp123  , I really appreciate your help
[12:25] <Theleo> any ideas or should i format the disk with a third party software?
[12:26] <Lundn> any fixes for itunes 7 share bug :S
[12:26] <scorp123> Theleo: did you partition the drive properly?
[12:26] <hideandseek> Is it possible to revert back to previous settings before a driver update?
[12:26] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI DAV client please?
[12:26] <Theleo> yes
[12:26] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why changes to Startup Programs don't get saved on my machine? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[12:26] <Theleo> fdisk /dev/sdb
[12:26] <scorp123> Theleo: because you wrote you formatted /dev/sdb directly .... shouldn't that be /dev/sdb1 or something like that?
[12:26] <Theleo> follow the options and the rest...
[12:26] <Theleo> oh yes sorry
[12:26] <Theleo> it was sdb1
[12:27] <INIT_6> After copying about 300gb so far. I thought it would be a good idea to restart my ubuntu linux box. During the shutdown it's stuck on unmounting local filesystem. it's been on this screen for about 7min. If I flip over to TTY1-6 Doesn't let me login. The cursur is flashing on the right hand side where the [ok]  goes. Should I just let it sit for a while and hope it does something or restart it manually
[12:27] <scorp123> Theleo: I'd recommend to use Windoze to format that disk ...
[12:27] <scorp123> Theleo: to each his own.
[12:28] <Theleo> well i tried that but windows doesnt let me format the disk as FAT32
[12:28] <Theleo> only NTFS
[12:28] <scorp123> Theleo: as FAT32 is native to Windows I'd say it has a better chance of properly formatting the disk in that format.
[12:28] <OxS> i followed this help file https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2320  about the network proxy ignore list and now i cant connect to the internet through my user
[12:28] <OxS> and i cant add them back with network proxy settings
[12:28] <scorp123> Theleo: oh yes, that's a limitation Microsoft built on purpose into XP ... they want to force you to use NTFS ... :)
[12:28] <Dave> ok scorp123 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27110/
[12:28] <Theleo> uncle bill and his o/s ...hahhahah
[12:29] <OxS> where are the settings for proxy configuration
[12:29] <OxS> the actual file
[12:29] <Theleo> well i think i will end up with a third party software and finish it there if there is no option with mkfs that will do the work for me
[12:29] <scorp123> Dave: OK ... your system does see the card ... so maybe it's just the module (= "driver") that's missing. Let me check ....
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> yep
[12:30] <Dave> ok
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> i read that, driver doesnt get loaded
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> quick google search
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> http://groups.google.com/group/fa.linux.kernel/msg/f0ba450fa5204bfd
[12:31] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI WebDAV/DAV client please?
[12:31] <scorp123> Dave: can you try this command:  "sudo modprobe via-rhine"
[12:31] <hideandseek> So I got a blue screen after I loaded the legacy nvidia drivers for my card.  After that I get a blue screen that says that I have no screens.  Is it possible to revert back to before the driver install or maybe fix the issue
[12:31] <Dave> yep sure scorp123 1 sec
[12:31] <scorp123> Dave: and then check again if the interface does show up?
[12:32] <[ThC] Primski> dave and scorp123, check this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gentoo-linux-help/50875-no-internet-boot-solved.html
[12:32] <Dave> ok did that, and still not showing
[12:32] <Dave> ok cool
[12:34] <scorp123> [ThC] Primski: not sure how helpful that is ... via-rhine module is already there by default.
[12:34] <scorp123> so need to compile the kernel again IMHO
[12:34] <[ThC] Primski> hm, yea
[12:34] <scorp123> the rest of the instructions are either for SUSE or for Gentoo ...
[12:34] <Dave> well tried 'ifconfig eth0 up' and it said blah blah no such device
[12:34] <[ThC] Primski> there is a linux driver on via hp tho, think that could help ?
[12:35] <scorp123> Dave: try this .... "sudo /etc/init.d/network stop"  and then after a few seconds "sudo /etc/init.d/network start" ... does this change anything?
[12:35] <hideandseek> cant dave use ndiswrapper?
[12:35] <scorp123> hideandseek: not for an Ethernet interface I think
[12:35] <Dave> no such file scorp123
[12:35] <hideandseek> So I got a blue screen after I loaded the legacy nvidia drivers for my card.  After that I get a blue screen that says that I have no screens.  Is it possible to revert back to before the driver install or maybe fix the issue
[12:35] <scorp123> just a sec
[12:36] <wols> blue screen?
[12:36] <wols> are you in the wrong oS?
[12:36] <hideandseek> i wish i was
[12:36] <scorp123> Dave: try this .... "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop"  and then after a few seconds "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start" ... does this change anything?
[12:36] <Dave> ok
[12:36] <wols> hideandseek: what driver did you use before?
[12:36] <hideandseek> wols: cause then I'd know how to fix it
[12:36] <scorp123> I mistyped it ... should be "networking" and not "network".
[12:36] <fatbrain> When I start an app, I get an error that the lib.so.3 was unable to be found (I have it in /usr/local/lib, I think it looks for it in /usr/lib). Anyway I can fix that?
[12:36] <hideandseek> wols: I installed the latest nvidia driver from www.nvidia.com
[12:37] <wols> fatbrain: cat /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:37] <wols> hideandseek: why?
[12:37] <scorp123> fatbrain: ln -s /usr/local/lib/lib.so.3 /usr/lib/lib.so.3  .... dirty, but it works :)
[12:37] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI WebDAV/DAV client please?
[12:37] <Dave> ok.... went through and said no such device eth0 then eth1 then eth2 then ath0
[12:37] <scorp123> Ind[y] : use Google
[12:38] <hideandseek> wols: when I boot into ubuntu, it tells me that X has failed to start.  Then I ran the diagnostic and it says that I dont have any screens.  I ran the driver update so I can use beryl.
[12:38] <wols> hideandseek: supposedly the nvidia installer has a --uninstall option. maybe it even works
[12:38] <Ind[y] > scorp123: I did. Found nothing.
[12:38] <wols> hideandseek: that is no reason for nvidia.com drivers
[12:38] <wols> what videocard?
[12:38] <fatbrain> wols: include /etc/ld.so.conf.d./*.conf
[12:38] <fatbrain> scorp123: and if I dont want it dirty? :D
[12:39] <hideandseek> wols: nvidia geforce 2 ti.  it uses legacy drivers and the standard glx wont work.  So i get the latest linux drivers from the site
[12:39] <scorp123> fatbrain: follow the other instructions you were given :)
[12:39] <wols> fatbrain: add /usr/local/lib/
[12:39] <[ThC] Primski> dave, what did the 'sudo modprobe via-rhine' output ?
[12:39] <Dave> nothing at all
[12:39] <fatbrain> wols: will try that, thanks
[12:39] <wols> hideandseek: again. there is no reason
[12:39] <wols> fatbrain: then run ldconfig
[12:39] <scorp123> ... lunch time here ... g2g
[12:39] <snipex> ppl i wanna modify a file owned by root and it says i cant what can i do ?
[12:39] <Gerrit> Where can I find an explanation of the icons as used by KNetworkManager? KNetworkManager's help as a Q&A but the answer doesn't seem to be there.
[12:39] <[ThC] Primski> try, sudo rmmod viga-rhine and then again
[12:39] <snipex> (xmms skin directory)
[12:39] <[ThC] Primski> try, sudo rmmod via-rhine and then again
[12:40] <[ThC] Primski> damn
[12:40] <Dave> thanks for your help scorp123 enjoy
[12:40] <scorp123> snipex: you're not supposed to modify stuff that belongs to root ;)
[12:40] <hideandseek> wols: well regardless, I'm still having problems getting X to start. What is the command to uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[12:40] <Dave> ok will do
[12:40] <snipex> but its xmms skin file
[12:40] <wols> hideandseek: I told you. ask nvidia for anything more
[12:40] <fatbrain> wolf: I added a new line with the content "/usr/local/lib" and tried to start my app, same error, unable to find my lib.so.3
[12:40] <wols> fatbrain: read all I wrote. not just half
[12:40] <hideandseek> wols: do you mean ask tech support for nvidia driver support?
[12:41] <Dave> error module via-rhine does not exist in /proc/modules
[12:41] <selinuxium> snipex: sudo chown user:user /path/to/file
[12:41] <fatbrain> wols: ay, that helps, thanks
[12:41] <selinuxium> snipex:  where user is your user name.
[12:41] <fatbrain> running on solaris 6.4 on 2colors :(
[12:41] <[ThC] Primski> dave, hm, module indeed isnt loaded, so if modprobe, isnt outputting anything, means it loaded it successfully
[12:41] <[ThC] Primski> strange, inded
[12:41] <snipex> what ???
[12:41] <snipex> srry im still used 2 windows
[12:41] <Dave> lol sounds it
[12:41] <[ThC] Primski> im out of ideas, sry
[12:42] <Dave> ok dude no worries
[12:42] <[ThC] Primski> googled it, but no solutions so far
[12:42] <Dave> yeah same
[12:42] <wols> Dave: dmesg
[12:42] <[ThC] Primski> good luck with that :)
[12:42] <ciacon> can someone help me with my v4linux problem?? --> http://pastebin.ca/588107
[12:42] <aidan> How can I create a terminal with a certain profile selected? Or, what environment variable controls the selected profile?
[12:42] <shadeofgrey> has anybody present installed ubuntu on a coreduo macbookpro?
[12:43] <snipex> ~/.xmms/Skins where is that ???
[12:43] <Dave> want me to pastebin that wols?
[12:43] <wols> snipex: in your ~
[12:43] <hideandseek> how do I quit irssi?
[12:43] <wols> hideandseek: /exit
[12:43] <snipex> ~where is it
[12:43] <selinuxium> snipex: ~/ is your personal route the . hides the file. are you using nautilus to browse the files?
[12:43] <wols> snipex: cd ~
[12:43] <wols> pwd
[12:44] <snipex> oh
[12:44] <wols> and then you will know
[12:44] <promet> promet
[12:44] <snipex> im usin default file manager
[12:44] <aidan> snipex: that's nautilus
[12:44] <snipex> so
[12:45] <snipex> where is option to show hidden files or w/e ?
[12:45] <selinuxium> snipex: go to you rhome folder  ie the one with your user name. press Ctrl + h   to show the hidden files, you should now see the foilder
[12:45] <snipex> ty very much
[12:45] <Dave> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27112/
[12:46] <Dave> output of dmesg
[12:46] <snipex> ty ppl works now
[12:46] <snipex> it aint owned by root
[12:47] <selinuxium> snipex: cool :)
[12:47] <hideandseek> wols:  the uninstall command worked. I'm back in ubuntu and the X is now working.   Should i do "sudo apt-get update" to update list of servers?
[12:50] <aldin> hi, i need to find if my distro is ubuntu, how do i find it, i need it for one script and i need only "ubuntu" or "Ubuntu" as result, thanks in advance
[12:50] <wols> !version
[12:50] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:51] <aidan> "uname" should also do it
[12:51] <xpoint> uname -a
[12:51] <xpoint> or hust try a new tty
[12:51] <aidan> How can I create a terminal with a certain terminal profile selected? Or, what environment variable controls the selected profile?
[12:52] <iTurtle> can I make a panel from the command line?
[12:52] <GrandeMago> ciao a tutti
[12:52] <GrandeMago> posso chiedere una cosa
[12:52] <GrandeMago> ?
[12:52] <iTurtle> !it | GrandeMago
[12:52] <ubotu> GrandeMago: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:52] <xpoint> englist please
[12:52] <aldin> aidan: uname says linux, wols, lsb_release gives me bunch of text i need only one, and if possible with grep so that i get only one word which will fit in my UBUNTU variable
[12:52] <GrandeMago> azz, scusate
[12:52] <GrandeMago> :)
[12:52] <snipex> !shell
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <snipex> !shell
[12:52] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:52] <OxS> !seen jowi
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jowi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <aidan> aldin: do some cool stuff with tr
[12:53] <snipex> hey ppl
[12:53] <Dave> so you do think its my mac address being wrong wols?
[12:53] <iTurtle> how can I make a panel from command line
[12:53] <snipex> wait a sec i got dapper drake
[12:53] <iTurtle> !question
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:53] <iTurtle> !panels
[12:53] <CraSher> anyone use compiz-fushion here?
[12:53] <snipex> isnt now 7.04 version available ?
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <iTurtle> !panel
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <iTurtle> snipex: 7.04 means "year 2007, month 04"
[12:54] <iTurtle> snipex: yes, it has been released. (april 07
[12:54] <xpoint> iTurtle, what panel do you have in mind ?
[12:54] <aldin> aidan: ok, i'll "man" it
[12:54] <wols> Dave: what kernel version?
[12:54] <Dave> how do i find that
[12:54] <wols> Dave: looks more like a driver bug
[12:54] <Dave> ah right
[12:54] <iTurtle> !compiz | CraSher
[12:54] <wols> what kernel version?
[12:54] <ubotu> CraSher: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:55] <Dave> how do i find my kernel version out?
[12:55] <snipex> iTurtle : so why dont i have it ? i updated ubuntu
[12:55] <xpoint> Dave, uname -a
[12:55] <iTurtle> snipex: I need more information...
[12:55] <Dave> 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:55] <wols> update
[12:55] <snipex> iTurtle : what info ? i got linux ubuntu via net, 3 days ago
[12:56] <Dave> i cant lol not without the network
[12:56] <hideandseek> wols: so you are saying I should use any drivers provided by nvidia, only ubuntu?
[12:56] <Dave> unless i download a new iso
[12:56] <wols> Dave: you have wireless
[12:56] <Dave> hmm yeah auctually
[12:56] <wols> hideandseek: unless you know what your are doing or want a broken system
[12:56] <Dave> i'll try share with this windows im on
[12:57] <wols> Dave: and I guess you haev a windows install too?
[12:57] <Dave> lol yeah :(
[12:57] <wols> download a newer kernel perhaps
[12:57] <CraSher> i can't join #ubuntu-effects nor display /motd;(
[12:57] <Dave> wouldnt know how to install it
[12:57] <liuyang> Hello, i'v compiled the new kernel, but blacklist in new kernel doesn't work, does anyone know why?
[12:57] <Dave> would be easier for me to download a new iso and install from scratch
[12:58] <Dave> or am i being to windows minded? lol
[12:58] <nico_> hello?
[12:58] <snipex> aaaaaah
[12:58] <snipex> i got LTS ubuntu
[12:58] <nico_> grats snipex, ubuntu rules
[12:58] <snipex> still dapper
[12:58] <nico_> hm ok
[12:58] <nico_> it's better then windows anyway :D
[12:58] <snipex> ppl is LTS dapper drake equal to feisty fawn or not ?
[12:58] <snipex> yes it is
[12:59] <snipex> windows's net didnt work
[12:59] <nico_> no, feisty is brand new
[12:59] <snipex> i just inserted ubuntu cd in my comp and
[12:59] <snipex> net worked
[12:59] <snipex> so what is poin of LTS ?
[12:59] <nico_> ubuntu is cool
[12:59] <hylje> snipex: stationary target
[12:59] <nico_> are you running a live-cd now snipex? or did you install
[12:59] <snipex> install
[12:59] <snipex> i was sick of windows
[12:59] <nexous> How do I edit bootloader to select ubuntu or fedora?
[01:00] <nico_> just edit the bootloader to remove windows :D
[01:00] <Gerrit> Where can I find an explanation of knetworkmanager's icons?
[01:00] <snipex> ppl whats better fedora or ubuntu ?
[01:00] <MenZa> Depends on your taste.
[01:00] <snipex> if i want a stable version for music and games
[01:00] <MenZa> Some prefer Fedora, some prefer Ubuntu.
[01:00] <nexous> snipex: ubuntu ftw :-p
[01:00] <snipex> modern desktop
[01:01] <rosabarr> 281172
[01:01] <[ThC] Primski> who prefers fedora ? LOL
[01:01] <[ThC] Primski> :P
[01:01] <MenZa> I don't think you can get an unbiased opinion in here ;)
[01:01] <snipex> HEY PPL
[01:01] <Ireal> snipex: firestarter.
[01:01] <snipex> CAN I HAVE BOTH FEDORA AND UBUNTU ?
[01:01] <nexous> MenZa:  prolly not :-p
[01:01] <nexous> snipex: I'm doing that right now :D
[01:01] <snipex> rly
[01:01] <snipex> how
[01:01] <nico_> Gerrit: http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager
[01:01] <Ireal> mandriva ftw!!
[01:01] <Gerrit> snipex: I recently switched.
[01:01] <Dave3> sorry about that, windows lol
[01:01] <snipex> from ubuntu to fedora or fedora2ubuntu ?
[01:02] <nexous> snipex: Well, I'm trying to figure out how to edit the boot loader, just as long as you have extra space fedora will create new partitions.
[01:02] <nico_> it's a SuSe guide but the program is all the same
[01:02] <Gerrit> snipex: I have recently switched.
[01:02] <nico_> but i'm still having sound problems over here
[01:02] <snipex> from what to what ?
[01:02] <nico_> strange
[01:02] <surviver> hello evry1, i got little prob, i made a backup but now i want to delete it so i have more space on my pc i tried this rm -d -r -f /media/sda4/backup but without succes any suggestions?
[01:03] <nico_> Gerrit: still looking for a knetworkmanager guide?
[01:03] <Gnea> surviver: why -d?
[01:03] <milestone> does anyone know what error 18 means when booting with grub?
[01:03] <Gerrit> nico_: I see the documentation, but I don't see an explanation of the icons.
[01:03] <Gerrit> I could RTSL.
[01:04] <MenZa> Which group allows you to use sudo?
[01:04] <Gnea> milestone: yes, the selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS - basically it means that your hard drive is larger than what your BIOS can handle.
[01:05] <surviver> gnea, directory
[01:05] <Gnea> surviver: rm -rf will suffice.
[01:05] <OxS> how do i edit http_proxy no_proxy?
[01:05] <milestone> Gnea: I am running scsi disks
[01:06] <Gnea> milestone: then there's a problem with your scsi disk.
[01:06] <milestone> is there a way to circumvent this by editing the configuration within the boot shell?
[01:06] <Gerrit> I suppose the blue icon with the lock means "protected", but I also see an icon of a PC, and I don't know what that one means.
[01:06] <milestone> Gnea: how can i check that?
[01:06] <Gnea> milestone: possibly, but the edit won't be permanent
[01:06] <surviver> gnea, sry for afk lol i help my mum with her windows :p but ill try
[01:06] <milestone> Gnea: i know. but i need to get the system up again
[01:07] <snipex> ppl : what is fedora better in than ubuntu ?
[01:07] <Gnea> milestone: get the system booted up and install scsitools
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> Menza!
[01:07] <Gerrit> snipex: I find rpm better than yum, but I find that ubuntu is better in recognising my laptop hardware.
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> dude i havent talked to you in eons!
[01:07] <Gerrit> I mean
[01:07] <Gerrit> I find rpm better than deb
[01:07] <Gnea> milestone: did you install or upgrade anything before this happened?
[01:07] <milestone> Gnea: that is the point. The system does not come up anymore
[01:08] <Gerrit> But I find apt-get better than yum
[01:08] <surviver> gnea, without succes :(
[01:08] <milestone> Gnea: I was in the process of setting up software raid 1
[01:08] <defrysk> Gerrit, rpm better then yum ? what does that mean ?
[01:08] <Gnea> Gerrit: you are horribly misled.
[01:08] <Gerrit> defrysk: I meant rpm better than deb.
[01:08] <nexous> for my menu.lst, root for /dev/hda4 would be what?
[01:08] <Ireal> nexous: hd(0,3)
[01:08] <nexous> Ireal: okay.
[01:08] <defrysk> Gerrit, not sure if I agree, but anyway its off topic
[01:08] <Gnea> milestone: were you using a guide?
[01:08] <Gerrit> Gnea: Debian package manager does not seem to register in the package database when the package was installed, and allows packets to asks question interactively. The latter is a horrible mistake, in my opinion.
[01:09] <Gerrit> defrysk: Is a comparison between ubuntu and fedora offtopic?
[01:09] <milestone> i just added a new kernel config to grub with savedefault --default=5 --once
[01:09] <defrysk> Gerrit, yes
[01:09] <milestone> Gnea:
[01:09] <milestone> Gnea: yes
[01:09] <Gerrit> I have used Redhat and Fedora for years, and ubuntu for days.
[01:09] <milestone> Gnea: http://togami.com/~warren/guides/remoteraidcrazies/
[01:09] <Gerrit> I'm answering snipex' question.
[01:09] <nico_> guys, does anyone know a reason why my sound won't work anymore? no mute settings here, every volume to the max
[01:09] <nico_> what did i forget
[01:09] <flowingfire> Hi there.  Does anybody know what I need to do to get a presentation to show up on my televiaion?  I have a svideo cable connected... no picture yet
[01:10] <nexous> Eh this is a pain in the arse.
[01:10] <Gnea> Gerrit: a timestamp is not a good way to distinguish between package managers. debian provides a solidly robust system that rpm can't even compare to.
[01:10] <Gerrit> I prefer the ubuntu way of installing software (post-installation).
[01:10] <Ireal> nico_: did you put the cable in ?
[01:10] <nexous> Anyone successfully dual boot fedora and ubuntu, with ubuntu as default boot?
[01:10] <Gerrit> Gnea: I find that RPM is a lot more robust and comprehensive.
[01:10] <defrysk> nexous, no reason why it would not be
[01:10] <Gnea> Gerrit: how long have you used ubuntu?
[01:10] <Gerrit> Gnea: For example, the RPM --qf option, queryformat, offers a lot more tags than Debian's equivalent.
[01:10] <flowingfire> anyone know what to do in ubuntu to show video on my TV through an SVIDEO cable?
[01:10] <nexous> defrysk: I'm having trouble with boot loader.
[01:10] <Gerrit> Gnea: Not long, but long enough to experience the limitations of the debian package manager.
[01:11] <defrysk> nexous, first intalled fedora and then ubuntu ?
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: Debian package manager has about 30 fields, I think.
[01:11] <Gnea> Gerrit: that's quite a good load of FUD you're building
[01:11] <flowingfire> i can do video on my TV with windows and mac but i don't know what to do in Ubuntu
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: I'm not spreading FUD.
[01:11] <nexous> defrysk: other way.
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: There is no Debian package manager equivalent of RPM's 'INSTALL-DATE'.
[01:11] <defrysk> nexous, then you have to go to #fedora
[01:11] <Gnea> Gerrit: how long is 'not very long'?
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: ten days.
[01:11] <nexous> defrysk: and ask what?
[01:11] <Gerrit> I missed RPM's INSTALL-DATE within a day,
[01:11] <nexous> defrysk: I hate going there, there all grumpy.
[01:12] <Gnea> Gerrit: then that doesn't count. when you hit the 1 year mark, then we'll talk. :)
[01:12] <defrysk> nexous, how to set up ubuntu in the bootloader
[01:12] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Gnea Gerrit
[01:12] <ubotu> Gnea Gerrit: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:12] <Gerrit> And I dislike it that, during a big install with debian, I cannot walk away, because packages might asks questions interactively during install.
[01:12] <flowingfire> !svideo
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <nexous> defrysk: other way, i need fedora setup in ubuntu's bootloader.
[01:12] <defrysk> nexous, you could also install ubuntu's grub
[01:12] <flowingfire> !presentations
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about presentations - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <nexous> defrysk: I did not install fedoras bootloader.
[01:12] <Gerrit> PriceChild: I do not find my conversation offtopic. I am comparing Ubuntu to a different distribution. I think that is ontopic.
[01:12] <jrib> !fishing | flowingfire
[01:12] <ubotu> flowingfire: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:12] <PriceChild> Gerrit, this channel is ubuntu _SUPPORT_, nothing else. Please move on.
[01:12] <Gnea> PriceChild: it's quite ontopic, actually
[01:12] <defrysk> ubuntu's bootloader should have dertected the fedora install
[01:13] <surviver> gnea, i got this weird thing :s i do rm -df and stuff he doesnt say anything he gives new line, like it is ok but then when i take look there lot of files (17 giga) in it some are locked other arnt
[01:13] <jrib> flowingfire: what video card do you have?
[01:13] <flowingfire> jrib: Not sure... It's built into my laptop I think...
[01:13] <flowingfire> Actually, I think it's ATI
[01:13] <nexous> defrysk: On startup I should have had the option your saying?
[01:13] <Gerrit> PriceChild: A user asks me whether I can support him/her regarding my opinion on comparing Fedora and Ubuntu. That's what I'm doing. I have cited things that I like about *Ubuntu and cited things tat I do not like about it.
[01:14] <nexous> I read a tutorial showing I have to edit menu.lst and add fedora option to it.
[01:14] <defrysk> nexous, if you have ubuntu's grub installed yes
[01:14] <Gerrit> PriceChild: In my opinion, that counts as support.
[01:14] <nexous> defrysk: i thought I did, how do i check? :-p
[01:14] <defrysk> nexous, reboot and have a look at the bootloaders options ? and have a look at menu.list first
[01:15] <Gerrit> I like the hardware recognition and the seperation between the distribution installation and software installation. I dislike the package manager for the reasons I cited. I think giving my opinion when a user asks me to counts as support.
[01:15] <jrib> flowingfire: ok, I only know that if you have an nvidia card you can use 'nvidia-settings', but I don't know how to do it with an ATI.  Try searching for 'ati tvout ubuntu', I'm getting a few hits on google
[01:15] <Gnea> Gerrit: well, i think that you'll find, over time, that even though there's a lack of obvious timestamping, that the system is actually much more robust than RPM.  RPM is nothing more than a patchwork of an originally horribly written package management system.  i used it about a decade ago and it was dreadful... not much has changed in that regard since.  I don't consider 10 days as a good timeframe to judge a package management syste
[01:15] <nexous> I'm in menu.lst right now, fedora is no where in it.
[01:15] <flowingfire> thx.. ok
[01:15] <surviver> jrib,  hy there back got litte prob (again :p) i wanted to delete my backup located /media/sda4/backup , some files are locked some arent i tried rm -drf and stuff but he wont delete hem :( no error message just blanc line
[01:15] <nexous> I'm just not sure what to put in the kernel and initrd fields.
[01:15] <Ireal> nexous: why don't you look at the grub file of your fedora config ?
[01:16] <defrysk> nexous, that surprises me, I would reinitiate grub , to let it detect fedora's kernel
[01:16] <nexous> Ireal: I'm not sure where it's located :-p
[01:16] <jrib> surviver: you shouldn't need the "-d".  Did you use sudo?
[01:16] <nexous> defrysk: how do I do that?
[01:16] <valdas> hey, anyone has hp dv6000?
[01:16] <surviver> jrib, dit without d and did with sudo no succes
[01:16] <defrysk> there should be a way of recovering grub in the installation disk of ubuntu
[01:16] <defrysk> !grub > nexous
[01:17] <Ind[y] > How can I make a .deb file for my Python program?
[01:17] <elkbuntu> Ind[y] , ask in #ubuntu-motu :)
[01:17] <nexous> Alright.
[01:17] <ArtVandalae> Hi guys, I just got a wireless card for my Feisty machine. It's installed okay, but when I type: ifconfig it doesn't appear in there. If I try ifconfig eth1 up. it doesn't work. It's a broadcom card, are all the required broadcom drivers shipped with Feisty?
[01:17] <PriceChild> Ind[y] , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New will be a good read (bottom section)
[01:17] <Gerrit> Gnea: The timestamping is not a major issue. However, the fact that packages asks questions interactively, is. I would like to seperate configuration from installation, because: (1) during installation, I don't know the answers to those questions (2) I would like to be able to 'walk away' during a big installation/upgrade lasting an hour or more. I am aware that it's possible to disable interactive configuration, but since debian packages are not desig
[01:17] <PriceChild> Gerrit, Gnea, You are offtopic, Please move on.
[01:18] <Gerrit> Gnea: It is true that ten days is a good timeframe to judge a package management style.
[01:18] <surviver> artvandalae, ifconfig is only wired connection that u can see
[01:18] <Gerrit> PriceChild: I disagree.
[01:18] <zero> hello
[01:18] <Ind[y] > ok, thanks guys
[01:18] <jrib> Gerrit: this channel is only for support, you can speak about this topic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <sipior> not really offtopic, just pedantic and tedious
[01:18] <surviver> artvandalae, try iwconifg
[01:18] <Gerrit> jrib: A user asks me to compare fedora and ubuntu. In comparing this, I support him in choosing a distribution.
[01:19] <jrib> Gerrit: do it #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:19] <defrysk> Gerrit, dont argue please
[01:19] <Ireal> oh, i thought he was trying to start a flamewar;P
[01:19] <Gerrit> Right. Okay.
[01:19] <surviver> ^
[01:19] <OldPink> Hi
[01:20] <Gnea> Gerrit: of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, and hopefully you'll enjoy the fact that timestamps are, indeed, made available within the package management system via ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/  although I do admit that that is a bit of an issue, and maybe we should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic since the discussion doesn't seem to be helpful to other ubuntu users.
[01:20] <Gnea> read what i just said.
[01:21] <surviver> jrib, oke found a way to delete them lol i just set off the locked files permissions in gui :D
[01:21] <nico_> big storm going on here outside :D
[01:21] <ciacon> any hint what this could mean??  ==>>>        sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko          insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko': -1 File exists
[01:23] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ where are you ? :o
[01:23] <OldPink> I feel like blogging
[01:23] <OldPink> But what about....
[01:23] <cafuego> chickens, blog about chickens
 can any1 assist me in a problem?...i want to install gizmo 2 be able 2 make calls on messenger...i donwloaded the files onto my desktop...now what....how do i make adept see them?
[01:23] <OldPink> Sorted
[01:23] <[ThC] Primski> everybody wants to be a jurnalist :PX
[01:24] <PriceChild> !offtopic > OldPink
[01:24] <OldPink> I don't have a category under which chickens fall :P
[01:24] <ziroday> fritz: what files?
[01:24] <Ireal> OldPink: to become ontopic, you could blog about ubuntu!
[01:24] <PriceChild> fritz, amsn is in the repositories which allows voice calls...
[01:24] <OldPink> My last blog was about Ubuntu actually. :)
[01:24] <OldPink> Oh no, second from last
[01:24] <[ThC] Primski> show
[01:24] <[ThC] Primski> lets see
[01:24] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, the netherlands
[01:24] <surviver> anyone can help? i got like 5000 locked files i want to unlock them at once but there in submaps and stuff ?
[01:24] <[ThC] Primski> we'll be the judge of that ;)
[01:24] <OldPink> My most recent one was about my host's downtime :S
[01:25] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ oh, should be here soon then :S im in slovenia, like 1000km southern ;)
[01:25] <jrib> surviver: what are the permissions on them
[01:25] <sipior> surviver: what's a submap?
[01:25] <fritz> well i need 2 make calls on yahoo
[01:25] <[ThC] Primski> getting cloudy allready :s
[01:25] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, ok, dunno big thunder and a lot of rain here :D
[01:25] <fritz> can i do that from amsn?
[01:25] <jrib> OldPink: you can talk about blogging in #ubuntu-offtopic, but this channel is really busy, so it is for ubuntu support only
[01:25] <[ThC] Primski> lol, in these hot days, a few drops wont kill anyone :P
[01:25] <surviver> jrib, only read so when i go set them to write read i can delete them but there like 500 files and in them again 400 files etc
[01:25] <fritz> well i need 2 make calls on yahoo can i do that from amsn?
[01:26] <surviver> sipior, files :) where u put stuff in xD
[01:26] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, hot days? it's been raining here for a week
[01:26] <[ThC] Primski> :O
[01:26] <PriceChild> fritz, no amsn is just for msn.... sorry i misread you're question
[01:26] <jrib> surviver: if you use sudo, you won't need to mess with permissions
[01:26] <[ThC] Primski> we had like 30+ for the past week
[01:26] <PriceChild> fritz, didn't realise you meant yahoo instead of msn
[01:26] <OldPink> Sorry jrib. It's actually quite quiet at the moment, and I was trying to spark some conversation. I'll just idle here for a bit and help out with anything that crops up. :)
[01:26] <jrib> OldPink: thanks
[01:26] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, lol, 30+ is to warm for me but it's better then the rain
[01:26] <surviver> jrib, did sudo rm -rf but he wont delete them :s:s
[01:26] <neil_> It's really worth installing feisty fresh isnt it :)
[01:27] <[ThC] Primski> well nico_ hope ur see barriers will hold :)
[01:27] <jrib> surviver: you get errors?
[01:27] <[ThC] Primski> hate to see such beautifull country get flooded
[01:27] <sipior> surviver: thank you, i haven't been patronised nearly enough lately
[01:27] <neil_> Had hell with my upgrade, but having restricted-packages on its own is way better than old manually installed packages
[01:27] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, we have the Stormvloedkering, that will hold :D
[01:27] <beeman_nl> where should i go if i found an error in the website of https://help.ubuntu.com/
[01:27] <OldPink> neil_: I'd say no. I installed 6.06 and have upgraded throughout and am now at 7.04, never had a problem upgrading
[01:27] <surviver> sipior, yw :)
[01:27] <beeman_nl> i can't seem to find a colofon or something
[01:27] <surviver> jrib, nope just blanc line
[01:27] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ hehe, cool, saw that on discovery yea ;)
[01:27] <neil_> Really.. It may be due to my n00bish past, but my codecs and similar stuff are a headache
[01:27] <jrib> surviver: pastebin the command and all the output please?  are you sure it isn't just taking a while?
[01:28] <surviver> jrib, but when i set a couple the permission to write read and then there unlocked i do the command he deletes those
[01:28] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, yep, even the americans are interested :D
[01:28] <[ThC] Primski> lol
[01:28] <[ThC] Primski> :)
[01:28] <surviver> jrib, ill pastebin sec
[01:28] <surviver> !pastebin
[01:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:28] <OldPink> neil_: In all seriousness, I've NEVER seen a problem when upgrading. And I doubt it's just luck.
[01:28] <OldPink> neil_: Usually I ugrade to the release candidate
[01:29] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, I
[01:29] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, I've been to slovenia once
[01:29] <Ireal> upgrading debian sid can be fun :P
[01:29] <nexous> Anyone dualbooting fedora core 7 and ubuntu feisty?
[01:29] <cafuego> nexous: i am
[01:29] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ rly? cool, i've been to netherlands few times, 3 i think
[01:29] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, but only for 1 minute, we didnt have the right papers with us so we could return :D
[01:29] <[ThC] Primski> lol
[01:29] <defrysk> !ot > nico_
[01:29] <nexous> cafuego: could you pastebin your menu.lst for me/
[01:29] <cafuego> nexous: No, the machine that dualboots isn't on.
[01:29] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ where were u traveling ?
[01:30] <neil_> OldPink: Probably right.. My codecs and streaming is a right mess, but on a fresh install, just added restricted-packages, its 100% better
[01:30] <nexous> cafuego: ehh :/
[01:30] <neil_> prob not the best way to fix it tho
[01:30] <defrysk> !ot > [ThC] Primski
[01:30] <surviver> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27115/
[01:30] <[ThC] Primski> !ot
[01:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:30] <cafuego> nexous: Bbasically I created /boot/fedora under grub and put the fedora ekrnel and initrd there, then I added kernel lines for fedora to my menu.lst
[01:30] <OldPink> neil_: I had problems streaming in Firefox in 6.06 and 6.10, they sorted themselves on upgrade to 7.04
[01:30] <[ThC] Primski> !ot doesnt do  anything
[01:30] <[ThC] Primski> just say what your problem is
[01:30] <nexous> cafuego: alright.
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> off offtopic
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> hihi
[01:31] <cafuego> nexous: So root (hdx,y) stays the same for grub, you just use kernel /boot/fedora/vmlinuz-whatever root=/dev/whatever rgbh
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> no spammes allowed a ?
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> keke we'll shut up
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> carry on
[01:31] <nexous> cafuego: alright, well I'm trying something like that and going to reboot, hopefully it works.
[01:31] <jrib> surviver: to delete everything in /media/sda4/backup you should do:  sudo rm -rf /media/sda4/backup      Triple check for typos.  If you put a space in the wrong spot you will wipe your drive
[01:31] <nico_> there's a private chat thing
[01:31] <cafuego> nexous: As long as you leabr the Ubuntu lines you can always mount the fedora stuff and copy files off.
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> its ok, lunch time anyways, bbl
[01:32] <nexous> cafuego: alright.
[01:32] <OldPink> neil_: By all means, fresh install. But it's so much hassle :P
[01:32] <dawn`chorus> nexous, you could pastebin your menu.lst and the output of sudo fdisk -l and I'll look over it for you.
[01:32] <surviver> jrib, thats not the prob :p its seperate partitions :D nothing is on it without backup :) but ill keep my eyes open :)
[01:32] <nexous> dawn`chorus: give me a sec to reboot if it doesn't work and i will :-d
[01:32] <jrib> surviver: but what you pasted did not use correct syntax
[01:32] <ques> hello all
[01:33] <surviver> jrib, lol?
[01:33] <dawn`chorus> nexous, sure.  i wouldnt' do it that way, leading to extra mounts of your ubuntu root partition, but however you like..
[01:33] <jrib> surviver: you need to pass the path to what you want to delete to rm
[01:33] <surviver> jrib, ow yeah i went first to the place that i want to delete then delete it
[01:33] <OldPink> Anyone tried Wubi? I gave it to a friend who offered me $50 to download, install, partition etc. remotely. I told him that was too much hassle for just trying it out, and to either try it himself or use Wubi. I've not heard back from him though :S
[01:33] <nexous> Okay
[01:33] <nexous> I selected fedora core 7 from bootloader.
[01:34] <ques> quick question: i want to install ubuntu LTS as a virtual pc on my windows xp machine, so i can run apache2, php, mysql on it and use it as my test server..... do i download ubuntu server 6.06 LTS from here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download? it says its a virtual pc image, does that mean when i run the ISO it immediatelly installes it as a virtual machine?
[01:34] <nico_> but i'm still having sound problems (actually i dont have any sound at all)
[01:34] <surviver> jrib, now he gives nothing i think hes doing sonthing i ll let u know what comes out just an empty place with blinking cursor
[01:34] <jrib> surviver: he's working
[01:34] <nexous> http://pastebin.ca/588154
[01:35] <surviver> jrib, think so to i hear my hard drive working :p
[01:35] <surviver> jrib, k let see
[01:35] <surviver> jrib, great thx :):)
[01:35] <ubuntuEdgy> good morning all
[01:35] <ques> anyone :)?
[01:35] <surviver> lol good afternoon xD
[01:36] <ubuntuEdgy> ohhh :)
[01:36] <dawn`chorus> nexous, well, pastebin 1. your menu.lst, 2. the output of sudo fdisk -l 3.  the contents of /boot on the Fedora partition.
[01:36] <ziroday> evening ubuntuEdgy
[01:36] <nexous> dawn`chorus: alright, give me a sec.
[01:36] <surviver> lol
[01:36] <nico_> afternoon already?
[01:36] <nexous> dawn`chorus: also, how do i view hda4(the partition of fedora)
[01:36] <OldPink> Afternoon! (just - 12:36 PM)
[01:36] <ubuntuEdgy> evening ziroday
[01:36] <nexous> dawn`chorus: to show the contents.
[01:36] <surviver> oldpink, where u live got same time :D
[01:37] <eyemean> hi, i have a major proble, when i shut down ubuntu, everything closes then ubuntu logo comes up where orange bar becomes black then pc hangs and dose not turn off
[01:37] <dawn`chorus> nexous, sudo mkdir /mnt/hda4 && sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4 && cd /mnt/hda4/boot
[01:37] <nico_> ubuntuEdgy, is it evening there already?
[01:37] <nico_> 13:39 here
[01:37] <nexous> dawn`chorus: alright.
[01:37] <ziroday> nico_: no tis evening here (asia)
[01:37] <ziroday> 8its
[01:37] <OldPink> surviver: Offtopic a bit, but in the UK? Near Newcastle. :) You?
[01:37] <nico_> cool
[01:38] <ubuntuEdgy> 12.38 here :)
[01:38] <surviver> oldpink, ha in belgium :))
[01:38] <OldPink> ... I can see myself getting told off for offtopicing again. Come in #ubuntu-offtopic? :)
[01:38] <nico_> belgium, our neighboors
[01:38] <mezziah> 13.38.. and i just woke up
[01:38] <surviver> lol
[01:39] <ubuntuEdgy> me too
[01:39] <nexous> dawn`chorus: When i run sudo mkdir....... Mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[01:39] <nico_> mezziah where are you now?
[01:39] <surviver> nico_, nl?
[01:39] <nico_> same time
[01:39] <ubuntuEdgy> loosen woman is on guys >:o
[01:39] <nico_> im from NL
[01:39] <mezziah> i'm in western germany right now and you?
[01:39] <mezziah> oh, okay then
[01:39] <nico_> netherlands
[01:39] <surviver> nico, hehe thought so :D
[01:39] <dawn`chorus> nexous, what filesystem type did you make hda4?
[01:40] <iwkse> ehy guys, your support is needed: http://www.noooxml.org/petition
[01:40] <nexous> dawn`chorus: it's unknown :/
[01:40] <nexous> ext3 do i want it?
[01:40] <nico_> but does anyone know how to fix a sound problem? i dont have anything muted, and my volume is turned up enough
[01:40] <jrib> !offtopic | mezziah, surviver, ubuntuEdgy, iwkse
[01:40] <ubotu> mezziah, surviver, ubuntuEdgy, iwkse: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:40] <nico_> survivor, where are you?
[01:40] <mezziah> jrib: yes i know, thanks for the information tho
[01:40] <dakar> yo brother
[01:41] <dawn`chorus> nexous, so when you run sudo fdisk-l, fdisk calls hda4 unknown filesystem type?
[01:41] <nico_> man, somebody get a life or something
[01:41] <nexous> yes.
[01:41] <nico_> the offtopic thing is getting anoying
[01:41] <nexous> dawn`chorus: actually, it calls it Linux VLM in that, but unknown in gparted.
[01:41] <nexous> LVM*
[01:41] <mezziah> nico_: do you have ubuntu or kubuntu installed?
[01:41] <jrib> nico_: this channel is too busy, the only way to keep it useful is to ask non support discussions to move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:41] <ubuntuEdgy> i need a life :(
[01:42] <dawn`chorus> nexous, i have no clue what that is, bro.  i'd have went ext3.  :}
[01:42] <nico_> mezziah, ubuntu
[01:42] <mezziah> nico_: did you install kde-apps recently?
[01:42] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'll set it to ext2
[01:42] <dawn`chorus> nexous, why ext2 and not 3. 3 is just ext2 with journaling so you can quicky fsck it.
[01:42] <nico_> mezziah: perhaps some KDE things got installed recently
[01:43] <nexous> dawn`chorus: formating it at ext3 already.
[01:43] <mezziah> nico_: you could browse your current processes and see if arts is running, if so, kill it and try again
[01:43] <nexous> I'm about to give up and throw my drive back to 30gb and just run ubuntu without fedora.
[01:44] <OldPink> Fedora
[01:44] <OldPink> Is Fedora worth trying?
[01:44] <Tm_T> what is all this talk about Fedora? just quit it thanks
[01:44] <OldPink> Tm_T chill!
[01:44] <dawn`chorus> nexous, oh.  well, adding Fedora to your existing menu.lst is really easy ... one you know how.  Fedora will use initrd just like Ubuntu, so just ... well, yeah anyway
[01:44] <mezziah> OldPink: i wouldn't say it's better that ubuntu but yes, it's worth
[01:44] <nico_> mezziah, no arts running here
[01:45] <Tm_T> OldPink: I don't like to be frozen
[01:45] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'm just not sure what to add to kernel and initrd options in menu.lst
[01:45] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'll post my menu and fdisk like you said before.
[01:45] <dawn`chorus> nexous, that's where the contents of Fedora's boot come in.  :)
[01:45] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I did not install fedora's bootloader.
[01:46] <nexous> dawn`chorus: tutorial told me not to as it would overwrite ubuntu's
[01:46] <ArtVandalae> My wireless card says it supports WEP and WPA encryption schemes, but I need WPA-PSK... can my card still support it (even if it's software based encryption)?
[01:46] <dawn`chorus> nexous, that's true.  you did it right.  before i learned, i've overwrite the MBR and then use Super Grub Disc to fix it.
[01:47] <nexous> oh.
[01:47] <nico_> mezziah, i'm deinstalling a lot of kde-libs now (apt autoremove)
[01:47] <Sergemine> Hi guys!
[01:47] <nico_> retrying now
[01:47] <mezziah> nico_: there's no need for that - what soundcard do you have?
[01:47] <nexous> dawn`chorus: http://pastebin.ca/588166
[01:47] <nexous> dawn`chorus: menu.lst ^^
[01:48] <nico_> hm
[01:48] <Sergemine> Does anyone know if there are drivers for Realtek HD Audio ouncard?
[01:48] <nico_> i think it's a intell card
[01:48] <beeman_nl> where should i go if i found an error in the website of https://help.ubuntu.com/
[01:48] <dawn`chorus> nexous, that's Ubuntu's menu.lst?
[01:48] <beeman_nl> anyone got a clue? :)
[01:48] <mezziah> integrated?
[01:48] <nexous> dawn`chorus: yes.
[01:48] <nico_> mezziah, yes, Acer notebook
[01:48] <Sergemine> DRIVERS for Realtek HD Audio ouncard????
[01:48] <nexous> dawn`chorus: feisty /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:48] <Gost> hi
[01:48] <nico_> it worked before
[01:49] <nexous> dawn`chorus: http://pastebin.ca/588170 <-- fdisk
[01:49] <mezziah> ah ok, i see. did you already try searching google '<acer nootboke type> sound'? i bet there are more persons out there that had probs with it
[01:49] <jrib> beeman_nl: depends on what part.  If it's on the wiki, you can fix it.  If not, you can file a bug somewhere on launchpad.net or speak with the folks at #ubuntu-doc
[01:49] <Sergemine> DRIVERS for Realtek HD Audio souncard???? Are there any? For HD Sound in linux at all?
[01:49] <beeman_nl> jrib: thanks
[01:49] <dawn`chorus> nexous, what we really need is the name of the kernel and initrd files.
[01:49] <beeman_nl> jrib: i guess i'll be going to ubuntu-doc, it is not on the community part
[01:50] <nico_> mezziah, well it cant be drivers, because my sound card worked right after the fresh install but on day it just didnt work
[01:50] <nexous> dawn`chorus: It's core 7
[01:50] <supremesonic> !avahi-dae
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi-dae - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <mezziah> nico_: since when doesn't it work anymore? did you already try rebooting?
[01:51] <dawn`chorus> nexous, yes.  well, it'll be something like vmlinuz-2.6.21-2 or something for the kernel.
[01:51] <nexous> dawn`chorus: 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
[01:51] <nico_> yeah i have to reboot or shutdown all the time because my hibernate doesnt work either
[01:51] <supremesonic> anyone know what this might be?
[01:51] <supremesonic> root@hotbox:/home/user# lsof -i -n | grep 32768
[01:51] <supremesonic> avahi-dae 4883  avahi   14u  IPv4  16490       UDP *:32768
[01:51] <kbrooks> supremesonic, um
[01:51] <ericrw> supremesonic, I think you're looking for avahi (or avahi-daemon).  It provides zeroconf networking
[01:52] <mezziah>  umm...
[01:52] <supremesonic> ericrw, so I should't worry about it?
[01:52] <ericrw> supremesonic, you should embrace it!
[01:52] <SeveredCross> Hey y'all, what's the Windows key on a keyboard map to in Ubuntu/
[01:52] <dawn`chorus> nexous, and initrd.img- ?
[01:52] <SeveredCross> Is it hyper?
[01:52] <nico_> mezziah, and i dont feel like reinstalling again :D
[01:52] <mezziah> nico_: yes, i belive that
[01:52] <mezziah> believe*
[01:53] <wols> SeveredCross: meta?
[01:53] <SeveredCross> Is it meta?
[01:53] <SeveredCross> I have no bloody idea.
[01:53] <SeveredCross> What are Super and Hyper then?
[01:53] <ericrw> supremesonic, it lets you find computers and devices on the network.  For instance, it will automatically detect network file shares and printers on the network.  (not Windows shares or printers, but SFTP servers.. and Bonjour/Rendevous enabled printers)
[01:54] <nexous> dawn`chorus: also there is more in menu.lst, just the other ubuntu recovery, etc. View cut them off.
[01:54] <npnufn> I want to change color of selected text and it's background.  How can I
[01:54] <gdb> SeveredCross: I'm not sure, but CTRL-ESC has the same function.  Perhaps that's helpful. :-)
[01:54] <ericrw> SeveredCross, Super is the menu-key usually
[01:54] <SeveredCross> Thanks gdb.
[01:54] <supremesonic> ericrw, okay. My internet have just been quite slow, and when I was seeking google it tend to fail to find it after some time
[01:55] <ericrw> supremesonic, wireless internet?
[01:55] <gdb> SeveredCross: also, SHIFT+F10 is the menu key
[01:55] <dawn`chorus> nexous, i'm keeping the F7 entry where you put it.  did you find the filename of the initrd image yet?
[01:55] <supremesonic> ericrw, yeah. But the connection is like  75% good
[01:55] <SeveredCross> Aha!
[01:55] <SeveredCross> The Windows key is Hyper.
[01:55] <SeveredCross> ^_^
[01:55] <nexous> dawn`chorus: no.
[01:56] <mezziah> anyone knows a resource for e17 themes except get-e.org?
[01:56] <ericrw> supremesonic, avahi will automatically configure your network interface if it detects a network card with a line protocol up which has not received an IP through DHCP
[01:56] <npnufn> I want to change color of selected text and it's background.  How can I?  What are the configuration files for the colors.
[01:57] <nexous> dawn`chorus: if I locate for initrd i get 3 of them,
[01:57] <sipior> SeveredCross: i believe those can be configured via System->Preferences->Keyboard
[01:57] <SeveredCross> Thanks everyone.
[01:57] <ericrw> supremesonic, that is, if you were to plugin your *wired* network connection, but you had no firewall/router setup (or dhcp was broken), then avahi would automatically give your wired interface (say, eth0)  an IP address.
[01:57] <dawn`chorus> nexous, ah.  yes.  i remember now.  pastebin all the contents of F7's /boot.  i'll sort it out.
[01:57] <nexous> dawn`chorus: /boot/initrd-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7.img
[01:57] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'm not sure where the boot is located for f7
[01:58] <nexous> dawn`chorus: All i know is i installed into hda4
[01:58] <supremesonic> ericrw, im just worry I have a trojan or something there consume my consume my internet.
[01:58] <ericrw> supremesonic, however, that *shouldn't* affect your wireless access as it shouldn't be setting a default route...
[01:59] <dawn`chorus> nexous, i mean the /boot folder for F7 when I say that.
[01:59] <npnufn> any one knows the configuration files for the gtk-colors
[01:59] <nexous> it's just /boot
[01:59] <tree> hi. does anyone happen to know of any punctuation checker?
[01:59] <ericrw> supremesonic, but I mention it because avahi is known to automatically configure network interfaces that do NOT have an active line protocol (aka, no cable plugged in)
[01:59] <niekie> Hi all, I'm having a bit of a problem.. it seems all identd daemons that come with the Ubuntu server repositories fail to work and return ERROR:NO-USER (I am forcing the IDENTD to output my user ID now, and that works, but it fails to look up the real user)
[01:59] <niekie> Anybody know what causes that?
[01:59] <nexous> dawn`chorus: media/_boot/grub
[01:59] <ericrw> supremesonic, and that has been a source of repeated problems for my wife - but only for her access to our zeroconf based devices at home, not to the internet.
[02:00] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why changes to Startup Programs don't get saved on my machine? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[02:00] <sipior> tree: that strikes me as a very hard problem to solve. i've never heard of such a beast.
[02:00] <supremesonic> ericrw, it found my wireless internet and configured it automatic
[02:00] <Ausicaemia> Anybody?
[02:00] <tree> sipior, i only found checkers for windows
[02:00] <supremesonic> ericrw, http://rafb.net/p/TBJCt957.html
[02:01] <nexous> dawn`chorus: in that I have, initrd-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7.img, System.map-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7, and vmlinz-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
[02:01] <ericrw> supremesonic, when you lose your internet next time, run:  'route -n'.   Compare that to the 'route -n' of when your internet is working.
[02:01] <dawn`chorus> nexous, http://pastebin.ca/588177  <- your new menu.lst.  you can change to root=UUID later, if it works.
[02:01] <ericrw> supremesonic, also, check  the output of 'ifconfig' for both cases
[02:01] <niekie> !ident
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <niekie> !identd
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <supremesonic> ericrw, thanks I will :)
[02:01] <sipior> tree: but surely they don't figure out where to put commas and such? or were you speaking of something different?
[02:01] <ziroday> !find iden > niekie ( see pm form ubotu)
[02:02] <nexous> dawn`chorus: so should they be /boot/ or /media/_boot/grub?
[02:02] <tree> sipior, setting commas and such is what i am looking for and what some win apps are offering
[02:02] <niekie> ziroday: the problem is, all identd's with Ubuntu don't seem to work :S
[02:02] <niekie> Unless I force a specific output, that is..
[02:02] <tree> sipior, which proves: it is possible
[02:02] <nexous> dawn`chorus: because i foudn those files in media/boot now? so just add change to media/_boot?
[02:02] <ericrw> supremesonic, also, if "your wireless is automatically detected", make sure that you're connecting to YOUR access point.  you might be roaming between two access points (one being your neighbor's) and dropping while it transfers
[02:02] <ziroday> niekie: dunno sorry
[02:03] <niekie> ziroday: allright, no problem :)
[02:03] <dawn`chorus> nexous, let's test what we got, first.
[02:03] <sipior> tree: interesting. it seems like a terrible idea, though perhaps computers are managing english better than users now :-)
[02:03] <supremesonic> ericrw, it are :) I had to set my password for it, and all of the others wireless is encrypted also
[02:03] <nexous> dawn`chorus: alright.
[02:03] <tree> sipior, there is a linux tool for german punctuation, but this time, I need english
[02:04] <tree> sipior, that is what computers are there for
[02:04] <sipior> tree: well, best of luck finding it. you might try staroffice, if any linux app had it, it would
[02:04] <nexous> dawn`chorus: rebooting now.
[02:04] <tree> sipior, the problem is, english is not my native language
[02:04] <dawn`chorus> nexous, cross your fingers.  :)
[02:04] <swarna> Hi,I am trying to create ubuntu package for firefox-<IP_ADDRESS> but i am getting an error related to nsFontMetricsPSPango .cpp
[02:04] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I am. :p
[02:04] <tree> sipior, i believe they announced it for 2.4
[02:05] <swarna> somebody please help me in solving this
[02:05] <dawn`chorus> nexous, expect code to fly by.  no bootsplash.
[02:05] <ericrw> tree, sipior:  openoffice.org supports German.
[02:05] <tree> sipior, but 2.4 is supossed to get released end of 2008
[02:05] <ericrw> and english...
[02:05] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I selected fc7 from bootloader again, cannot mount selected partition still.
[02:05] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why changes to Startup Programs don't get saved on my machine? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[02:05] <tree> ericrw, i know, but i need it for an english document
[02:06] <sipior> tree: we'll just agree to disagree on the role of computers in teaching people to write properly :)
[02:06] <nexous> dawn`chorus: give me a sec to do something.
[02:06] <dawn`chorus> nexous, must be that weird filesystem type you've used.  i thought that was what initrd was supposed to take care of, but maybe something's wrong.  I can't be sure.  you'd better ask in #fedora.
[02:06] <ericrw> tree, I just scrolled up -- you want it to automatically place commas?  Thats really not a good idea.
[02:07] <tree> ericrw, i placed commas, but need it to be checked
[02:07] <ericrw> tree, I don't think it would be possible for a computer to automatically place commas, it is too flexible a language.
[02:07] <SeveredCross> swarna, there are already packages.
[02:07] <afan> alo
[02:07] <SeveredCross> There's a gnomefreaks repository that has Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> and Thunderbird 2.0.whatever packages.
[02:07] <tree> ericrw, sipior: seems like, i'll need to do it manually
[02:08] <nico_> still got no sound
[02:08] <swarna> SeveredCross, I have added a patch to it to support tamil printing
[02:08] <ericrw> tree, http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_commaproof.html
[02:09] <tree> ericrw, thank you. i'll have a look
[02:09] <gnomefreak> swarna: join #ubuntu-mozillateam and ask
[02:09] <sipior> tree: yes, but consider it an opportunity to get a better feel for a foreign language. ask a native speaker to check your work, and you'll get a better feel for the language than letting a computer do the work (and not as well as you could)
[02:10] <tree> sipior, there is some truth to it.
[02:11] <SeveredCross> Wheee Beryl.
[02:11] <nico_> anyone got a idea why my sound wo'nt work anymore?
[02:11] <mezziah> sipior: so true, although it gets frustrating sometimes.
[02:13] <swarna> gnomefreak, but no response from ubuntu-mozillateam
[02:13] <Gnea> PriceChild: sorry for the problem before, won't happen again.
[02:13] <Ausicaemia> Nevermind, finally fixed it.
[02:14] <Ausicaemia> Was a permissions error on the autostart folder
[02:14] <shakus> i have a very odd entry under 'active connections' (my machine connecting to some dsl line on port 30001) in firestarter that shows up neither with netstat -a or wireshark. is this some sort of bug in firestarter or something more omnious?
[02:14] <tree> ericrw, it is an interesting document. thanks again
[02:15] <Ausicaemia> Anyone know anything about FSTAB?
[02:15] <[ThC] Primski> what would you like to know ?
[02:15] <[ThC] Primski> !ask
[02:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:16] <Ausicaemia> Well, I have my FAT32 archive partition (/dev/hda5) mounted at /media/hda5 thanks to automatix
[02:16] <Ausicaemia> But when I change the /media/hda5 to /media/archives, it won't mount.
[02:16] <Ausicaemia> I get an error.
[02:16] <[ThC] Primski> what error would that be ?
[02:17] <[ThC] Primski> and post your fstab
[02:17] <mezziah> !paste
[02:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:17] <sipior> shakus: how do you know the machine is connecting to a machine on a dsl line?
[02:17] <Ausicaemia> Didn't get a name, just when I rebooted Ubuntu the Usplash spat out "FAILED" at Mount Local Filesystems
[02:17] <dawn`chorus> Ausicaemia, create a symlink from /media/hda5 to /media/archives.  :)
[02:17] <Ausicaemia> I'll post the line though
[02:17] <shakus> sipior: reverse dns :)
[02:17] <Ausicaemia> Oh yeah also, when I tried to mount it manually it complained about permissions
[02:18] <[ThC] Primski> you need to be root to mount
[02:18] <Ausicaemia> But it doesn't when the line is /media/hda5
[02:18] <[ThC] Primski> so, sudo mount...
[02:18] <[ThC] Primski> also, does the /media/archive folder exist ?
[02:18] <Ausicaemia> Yeah I know that, but It doesn't complain about it when I'm not root if the mount point is /media/hda5
[02:18] <Ausicaemia> No, is that the reason?
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> Its been a long time since I did anything with Fstab
[02:19] <[ThC] Primski> could be, i think folder has to exists prior to mounting
[02:19] <[ThC] Primski> do mkdir and then try again
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> k.
[02:19] <drowner> hello all
[02:19] <mezziah> Ausicaemia: the exact error message would help us i think
[02:19] <sipior> shakus: unreliable at best :) if it troubles you, use a known good machine to scan with a packet sniffer. what sort of traffice is purpotedly going to this machine?
[02:19] <dawn`chorus> !hi | drowner
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> I'll do that, reboot, and post results.
[02:19] <ubotu> drowner: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> Brb.
[02:19] <drowner> i was wanting a bit of generic advice
[02:19] <drowner> i want to create a seperate /home partition
[02:19] <dawn`chorus> drowner, what's on your mind?
[02:20] <drowner> and i found psychocats' guide, which is sensational
[02:20] <swarna> SeveredCross, Do you have any idea about this
[02:20] <SeveredCross> swarna: Nope.
[02:20] <SeveredCross> No clue.
[02:20] <SeveredCross> Never could get Firefox to properly compile. ^_^
[02:20] <drowner> but i would like to know what this line means before i type it in (/new refers to the new home folder, we are currently in the old /home)
[02:20] <drowner> find . -depth -print0 | sudo cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/
[02:21] <shakus> sipior: no traffic as far as i can tell. it's just there
[02:21] <mezziah> okay now i also have a question, it might be an easy one, but i really don't get it. how can i set up custom fonts for terminals like rxtv? and how can i see what fonts i can use for terminals?
[02:21] <dawn`chorus> drowner, that's called "magic pixie dust".
[02:21] <swarna> SeveredCross, the error i am getting is in nsFontMetricsPSPango.cpp
[02:21] <drowner> dawn`chorus: pardon?
[02:21] <drowner> lol
[02:22] <dawn`chorus> drowner, i'm only kidding.  if you really want to learn you could search online for those commands, or read their man pages.  man find.  man cpio
[02:22] <sipior> shakus: and what process is associated with this connection on your side?
[02:22] <swarna> SeveredCross, it is getting compiled properly but the problem is only while packaging
[02:22] <drowner> dawn`chorus: i DID that., but its the combination that is confusing me
[02:22] <dawn`chorus> drowner, do you know what a 'pipe' is?
[02:22] <shakus> sipior: firestarter doesn't say
[02:22] <mezziah> http://www3.get-e.org/Screenshots/User_Submitted/_images/sharp.png <- i'd like to use this font, but i don't have a clue how to install and configure it.  i already tried searching google and stuff.
[02:23] <swarna> nobody is giving response in ubuntu-mozillateam
[02:23] <drowner> dawn`chorus: yeah i think so. it takes the outpur of one command and sticks it in another?
[02:23] <drowner> outpuT
[02:23] <SeveredCross> swarna: No bloody clue, don't look at me.
[02:23] <SeveredCross> I've never made a Debian package.
[02:23] <SeveredCross> Always fails for me.
[02:23] <sipior> shakus: odd. i would get a packet sniffer on that connection and see what comes out.
[02:23] <ZeroA4> mezziah, do you have que font file ?
[02:23] <dawn`chorus> drowner, exactly.  it redirects the output of a command from standard output (your screen) and turns it into the input (which would usually be your keyboard strokes) of the next command.
[02:23] <sipior> shakus: it's probably nothing. still, can't hurt
[02:23] <mezziah> ZeroA4: i don't know what you mean.
[02:24] <Devyll^> I need comunicate (chat) with another user which is logged at my server with ssh. How can I do that ? (he is logged with ssh to my server. I am logged with ssh to my server . we need to chat) can anyone help me please ?
[02:24] <ZeroA4> mezziah, the file of the font...
[02:24] <primski> devyll^hmm there is a command, i know, i've used it, cant remember tho :S anyone ?
[02:24] <sipior> Devyll^: try "write"
[02:25] <Devyll^> what is this ? a module to be installed ?
[02:25] <mezziah> ZeroA4: no, though i have installed the xfonts-terminus package using apt-get.
[02:25] <sipior> Devyll^: no, it should already be there. "man write"
[02:25] <shakus> sipior: i ran wireshark for a couple of minutes but nothing came up
[02:26] <mezziah> i bet there's a good resource for installing custom terminal fonts, but i can't find it.
[02:26] <shakus> sipior: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2443/screenshotjb3.png
[02:27] <ZeroA4> mezziah, the font must have a file... it can be in a package like the one you installed... but if not you can install it by donwload the file and drag and drop it to the font folder
[02:27] <drowner> dawn`chorus: Ok, i think i know what the 'find' command does
[02:27] <drowner> dawn`chorus:  But im not sure why we need to cpio. Like, why not just cp it?
[02:28] <sipior> shakus: i assume that address doesn't correspond to any of the five CLOSE_WAITs you have?
[02:28] <shakus> sipior: no
[02:28] <mezziah> ZeroA4: yes, okay. do you have any resources for other fonts which i can use for terminals?
[02:28] <dawn`chorus> drowner, aysiu must've thought that working w/ the archives was easier/more efficient/etc.
[02:29] <ZeroA4> mezziah, don't know...
[02:29] <sipior> shakus: odd that it doesn't show up at all in netstat.
[02:29] <mezziah> ZeroA4: ok, but thanks for your help.
[02:29] <drowner> oh ok
[02:29] <sipior> shakus: i hate to suggest it, but you may want to run a rootkit checker on your machine
[02:29] <sipior> shakus: do you run tripwire or the like?
[02:30] <Martinp23> Is there a way to chkdsk /f NTFS partitions within ubuntu?
[02:30] <shakus> sipior: i'll check it out now
[02:30] <sipior> shakus: of course i'm not thinking about this clearly...where does firestarter get its information about active connections?
[02:31] <SeveredCross> There's ntfsfix Martinp23.
[02:31] <shakus> sipior: i have no idea. iptables or the like?
[02:32] <sipior> shakus: i guess my point is that they should be getting the information from the same place
[02:32] <sipior> shakus: if you retart the firestater control app, does the connection persist
[02:32] <sipior> ?
[02:32] <shakus> sipior: yes
[02:33] <shakus> sipior: i've added deny rules for both the host and the port. i think i'll just go offline/reboot and see what happens
[02:33] <Martinp23> SeveredCross: Thanks :)
[02:34] <sipior> shakus: yeah, sounds reasonable. best of luck to you.
[02:34] <herz1> I installed the at-spi-dbgsym package, because I got some warning while running an application in development
[02:35] <shakus> sipior: i don't see how this could possibly be a trojan, unless it was in a nocd crack i used with cedega (for a game which i own:p), but that shouldn't have been a problem
[02:35] <herz1> how do I tell gdb that /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so contains the symbols for the dl_open()ed libatk-bridge.so?
[02:35] <sipior> shakus: just keep an eye on it in future. probably nothing.
[02:37] <eyemean> im new to linux, ive installed firestarter, wondering if i need to install antivirus aswell?
[02:37] <eyemean> soz, im using ubuntu 7.04
[02:37] <sipior> eyemean: generally, no