[02:28] <TruthElixirX> Had a computer, HP Pavilion. HDD failed, bought a new one, installed it properly, then discovered my recovery disks were gone. I thought it would be a great time to try linux. Downloaded the install and burnt it to a CD. I load up, install the OS, then it tells me to restart and eject the CD. I do so, and when I restart it it says "Can not find boot disk. Please insert appropriate CD and restart." And it won't boot into Linux.
[02:28] <Falstius> Nintendud: I always get lost .trash directories on my removable directories.  Annoying as a visit from the inlaws.
[02:28] <kitche> Eroick: you only have the ubuntu cd sicne there is an xubuntu install cd
[02:28] <Nintendud> Falstius: I don't use any program that used .trash anyway :)
[02:28] <Nintendud> use*
[02:28] <someonww> hi
[02:28] <Nintendud> Falstius: they directly delete. and .trash doesn't exist.
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: and .trash would be tabulated in the above programs' output
[02:29] <someonww> how do I mount a FAT partition?
[02:29] <tolldog> you can do a find to see what files have been modified in the last 24 hours and do an --exec ls -l on it to check the size
[02:29] <Lc_945x3> Hi, does anybody know what the shortcut for copy and paste are in Gnome terminal?
[02:29] <Falstius> Nintendud: I wasn't suggesting that, just an annecdote of annoying hidden directories.  At 96% occupied, ext3 could be pretty fragmented which would eat up a lot of 'free' space.
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: there is an empty Trash directory though ;p
[02:29] <hendrickvp> anybody, when apt-get install php5-imagick, I get, E: Couldn't find package php5-imagick, what do I do?
[02:29] <jinx099> Lc_945x3: highlight and middle click
[02:29] <kitche> TruthElixirX: you probably forgot to either install grub or don't have the drive to set up to boot
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: ah ok, sorry.
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah, it IS fragmented.
[02:29] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: which OS did you install? do you see something saying GRUB bootloader on starting your box?
[02:29] <Lc_945x3> jinx099: is there a keyboard command I can use?
[02:29] <Nintendud> Falstius: but no one told me that would eat up space ;p
[02:30] <Nintendud> that's probably my solution
[02:30] <Nintendud> I believe one of my drives is ~29% fragmented
[02:30] <jinx099> Lc_945x3: ctrl-c and ctrl-v work too i believe
[02:30] <tolldog> thats a lot of space to loose to fragmenttation
[02:30] <Nintendud> unfortunately, there are no safe defragmentation tools
[02:30] <TruthElixirX> @ucordes: I installed the latest version of Ubuntu (6.10 I believe). And no, I saw nothing GRub Bootloader when starting
[02:30] <tolldog> ^loose^lose
[02:30] <Nintendud> tolldog: I know. it's ridiculous if that's trye
[02:30] <Nintendud> true*
[02:30] <kitche> well considering ext3 doesn't do fragmented anyways
[02:30] <Lc_945x3> jinx099: ctrl-v doesnt work, but I can just use this middle click its good enough :)
[02:30] <Falstius> Nintendud: ofcourse, blocks are assigned to a given file.  If that file is 1 byte, it will take up 1kb on a filesystem with 1kb blocks.
[02:30] <tolldog> i would look for growing files first
[02:30] <tolldog> and directories that looked to big
[02:31] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah. but that's really odd for that much to be missing.
[02:31] <hendrickvp> anybody, when apt-get install php5-imagick, I get, E: Couldn't find package php5-imagick, what do I do?
[02:31] <jinx099> Lc_945x3: my bad, its shift-ctrl-c and shift-ctrl-v
[02:31] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: what option to format your hard drive did you select on installing? and how did you install?
[02:31] <Falstius> Nintendud: not if you created a couple of thousand small files ...
[02:31] <tolldog> thats a lot more fragmentation than what i am used to as well, usually i see < 10%
[02:31] <Lc_945x3> jinx099: Ah, thank you very much!
[02:31] <TruthElixirX> I followed the steps here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows as someone suggested to me, but it didn't appear to do anything.
[02:31] <noobcook> cool juano_ u can use txt files to input filter expressions
[02:31] <Nintendud> Falstius: I do have a lot of small files.
[02:32] <Falstius> tolldog: how do you check fragmentation on ext3?
[02:32] <mag_> do you have some experience with ACL's+samba ? please help me !
[02:32] <Nintendud> Falstius: the night I lost the 15 gigs, I was downloading something, but it was already allocated, so I don't see why it would have suddenly started losing space
[02:32] <TruthElixirX> I'm not sure I remember. You mean like file system? It was default ext3 or something similiar. I installed with the Install CD / Live CD (I'm currently using the live CD to get access to the internet)
[02:32] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: i don't really get what you are trying: do you want to recover your stuff from windows?
[02:32] <Enverex> What do I need to install to get kernel source files in /lib/modules/whatever ? (I thought that's only where built stuff went but apparently not)
[02:32] <juano_> noobcook: nice, didnt know that one, never read bout dumpin info
[02:32] <Nintendud> Falstius: if it's relevant, this something was a 50 gig torrent, with lots of 20 meg files. However, these files were allocated weeks and weeks prior to the day I lost 15 gigs.
[02:33] <Nintendud> so, I don't know if that would affect it or not
[02:33] <Falstius> Nintendud: I don't know how the preallocation works, but I wouldn't be surprised.
[02:33] <TruthElixirX> @ucordes: No, windows is gone. This is a new HDD. I want to install linux, but after the install proccess it won't boot into it. It just says "please insert boot disk and restart" after I format the drive and have completed ubuntu installation
[02:33] <tolldog> i do a fsck to check the fragmentation of a drive
[02:33] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah. still, 15 gigs is a heck of a lot to lose, especially since my reiserfs drive has more on it, and hasn't lost a byte.
[02:34] <Syrra> Hello
[02:34] <tolldog> but that is for unmounted filesystems
[02:34] <aboutblank> i'm having trouble with my nvidia beta driver. i can do 'apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common', is there a way to check that the old module has been completely removed from the kernel?
[02:34] <Nintendud> tolldog: this partition is probably the one that read 29% fragmented on boot one time
[02:34] <Falstius> Nintendud: reisferfs is specifically designed to efficiently handle lots of small files.  It suffers for that in offer ways.
[02:34] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: it sounds like there is a rest of your windows and like grub didn't install right so windows bootloader is still in command... you said you are in your livecd right? run gparted and remove all partitions you see.
[02:34] <Nintendud> Falstius: yeah. I really want to try XFS, since reiserfs mounts slowly and other minor issues (calculating space used by a directory)
[02:35] <tolldog> you may be able to gain some space by going ext2 and getting rid of the journal
[02:35] <malt> I was reading on sudo, and do i change sudo group to root so it uses root password for sudo? instead of it giving users same password for sudo as it is in there account. and make sudo use totally different pws
[02:35] <Nintendud> tolldog: I don't think I would want to do that to my partition.
[02:35] <malt> like root
[02:35] <Nintendud> D:
[02:35] <Nintendud> I just want an explanation
[02:35] <tolldog> xfs... i used that for a long time, but other more guru types considered me crazy for doing that
[02:35] <Falstius> Nintendud: I've had some pretty scary data lose in NFS mounted XFS file systems, but that was just a nasty setup all around (wasn't me!)
[02:35] <noobcook> where can u get mp3 support for Totem
[02:35] <TruthElixirX> @ucordes: Where is Gparted? Completely new to linux / ubuntu
[02:35] <Nintendud> Falstius: haha. I've heard so many good things, and it's improving at a nice rate.
[02:35] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: you can do this by running a terminal and typing in sudo gparted or run it from the startmenu: system, administration, gnome partitioning something
[02:36] <kitche> with a power outage you can lose your whole system with xfs
[02:36] <Nintendud> I wouldn't hesitate to give it a try, at least
[02:36] <juano_> noobcook: mp3 support i got from repos, i use xmms :D
[02:36] <Nintendud> kitche: really? is it worse than NTFS? :P
[02:36] <noobcook> theres a winamp for linux project
[02:36] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: it is really user friendly. removing everything you see there, then you create a new partition with reiserfs, then you apply. try your best i need to get another hotdog
[02:36] <Nintendud> noobcook: lol, why would there be one? xmms and beep-media-player already support Winamp 2.x skins...
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: yea.. i enjoy xmms a lot though, i use xmms, mplayer and kaffeine
[02:37] <Nintendud> and Winamp 5 is ugly D:
[02:37] <noobcook> really
[02:37] <Nintendud> noobcook: yeah.
[02:37] <noobcook> can i apt get xmms
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: sure
[02:37] <Nintendud> plop them into your skins directory decompressed
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:37] <tolldog> so any preferences on wireless for wpa support?
[02:37] <Nintendud> (the winamp 2.x skin extention is actually just a .zip file)
[02:37] <noobcook> k
[02:37] <juano_> noobcook: or else from synaptic, search xmms, also search for mp3 and install libmp3.. etc.. for mp3 support
[02:38] <noobcook> ah ok
[02:38] <noobcook> cool
[02:38] <noobcook> hmm btw
[02:38] <noobcook> is there a hardrive diagnostics for linux that will work on ntfs
[02:38] <Falstius> Nintendud: what about bad blocks on the hard drive?
[02:38] <noobcook> because my windows blue screens when i try to boot
[02:38] <juano_> noobcook: you should enable multiverse and universe in repositories in synaptic
[02:38] <noobcook> ok
[02:39] <juano_> noobcook: your win doesnt boot?
[02:39] <Nintendud> Falstius: I believe I already checked for that... doesn't that check when the FS checks after x reboots?
[02:39] <Syrra> I'm having a problem with my video card. I've got a GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x and I can't run anything with decent graphics. I know the video card works fine, because I use it for NWN on my Windows partition.
[02:39] <noobcook> yeh =(
[02:39] <noobcook> i get a blue screen
[02:39] <noobcook> "STOP: c000021a fatal sys error, Session manager system process terminated unexpectedly with 0xc000003a"
[02:39] <noobcook> now i don't want to blame linux
[02:39] <noobcook> but i think its got something to do with partition
[02:39] <Falstius> Nintendud: not automatically.  You might want to umount the system and us fsck (I think that can check for them with the right switch).
[02:39] <noobcook> is there a way i can repair the boot file
[02:40] <juano_> noobcook: mm yea i got some times blue screens, i couldnt fix them so i formatted those times, you gotta be carefull when you partition
[02:40] <Nintendud> Falstius: I don't think there's a problem with the drive. fsck checked the drive a few days ago on boot automatically... but maybe it didn't check for bad blocks? I don't know.
[02:40] <bcstv> how do you install a new mouse pointer theme?
[02:40] <noobcook> im sure theres a way i can do it without formatting!
[02:40] <noobcook> thats a horrible alternative
[02:40] <bcstv> It says to move to ~/.icons but no directory with name esits
[02:41] <bcstv> in edgy
[02:41] <Nintendud> in any case, I don't want to umount it right now ;p
[02:41] <Syrra> Can anyone help me?
[02:41] <juano_> noobcook: hehe yep it is... maybe there is, try reinstalling windows, EXCEPT, if you reinstall windows GRUB is a gonner so it wouldnt be so nice to start from there
[02:41] <Falstius> Nintendud: bad blocks are a hardware problem that the filesystem is designed to work around.  fsck might not report them without a special switch.  I have to go now (to pick up my wife) or I'd look it up.  good luck.
[02:41] <Nintendud> ...thanks...
[02:41] <Nintendud> hmm
[02:41] <facugaich> !nvidia > Syrra
[02:41] <Nintendud> owell
[02:42] <noobcook> yeh guano_ i know ><
[02:42] <noobcook> i can probs repair windows but i think itd stuff grub also
[02:42] <wiseelben> bcstv: there is a GTK program that does this for you, let me find it
[02:42] <Kirok> noobcook: have you tried booting into recovery mode then, fixing the MBR and running chkdsk. BTW its easy to restore grub after wiping it so don't worry
[02:42] <bcstv> is it gcursor
[02:42] <wiseelben> bcstv: look for gcursor
[02:42] <noobcook> my windows xp cd wont boot
[02:42] <juano_> noobcook: Kirok is right, you should try a chkdsk
[02:43] <noobcook> lol
[02:43] <juano_> noobcook: ROFL
[02:43] <noobcook> "if it were a problem with the boot sector it wouldn't load windows at all.  so you would not get a blue screen"
[02:43] <facugaich> !nvidia > facugaich
[02:43] <noobcook> so its not boot sector
[02:43] <juano_> noobcook: mbr isnt it, cause if it was mbr, grub wouldnt even show up
[02:43] <rioghal> How do I see which manufacturer (Amie, Phoenix, etc.) made my BIOS chip?
[02:43] <facugaich> Syrra: did you read ubotu's msg?
[02:43] <malt> anyone here use VNC on there linux server?
[02:43] <Syrra> yes
[02:44] <Syrra> I'm going through the instructions now
[02:44] <tolldog> rioghal: i think its in /proc somewhere, I know where it is in redhat land
[02:44] <noobcook> juano_ i think its partition magic
[02:44] <malt> was it hard to install? like does it read by linux accounts on the system like ssh?
[02:44] <steelb> i have 5.1 surround speakers, how do i get ubuntu in 5.1 to my onboard?
[02:44] <juano_> noobcook: did you resize partition over yellow part?
[02:45] <noobcook> nope
[02:45] <veeyawn> Hey folks, having a little problem.  My wifi (eth1) card won't get an ip
[02:45] <juano_> noobcook: k.. phew... :D
[02:45] <veeyawn> When I ifdown and ifup I get There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid with pid 134993416
[02:45] <veeyawn> Any ideas what's up?
[02:45] <noobcook> meh i gtg to the bank
[02:45] <noobcook> bbl
[02:45] <juano_> noobcook: k cya
[02:46] <jlewis> veeyawn: you sure it's iwconfig'd correctly?
[02:46] <juano_> veeyawn: you trying to get an IP from DHCP server or static?
[02:46] <veeyawn> dhcp
[02:46] <Enverex> What do I need to install to get kernel source files in /usr/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/source? I need it to build a driver
[02:46] <pumpkinhead> how do i change to direct rendering x server
[02:46] <juano_> veeyawn: did you run dhclient eth1?
[02:46] <veeyawn> Not entirely sure it's iwconfig'd properly
[02:46] <k5utcchad> i need aptitude help
[02:47] <jlewis> veeyawn: iwconfig eth1 (do you see an AP and reasonable S/N and signal?)
[02:47] <veeyawn> It's odd, I had Ubuntu (edgy) on a partition but recently formatted and replaced the whole system with it and now I have this issue
[02:47] <dcnstrct> guys, I just added a couple new harddrives to my machine and installed windows on one of them.  So windows overwote my boot loader with its own.  Now I want to create a boot cd that will boot into the linux system on /dev/hda1 this way I don't have to overwrite windows bootloader at all.  Is this easy ?
[02:47] <juano_> veeyawn: you could try dhclient eth1
[02:48] <veeyawn> I just did a dhclient
[02:48] <veeyawn> No good
[02:48] <Enverex> damn, would have thought someone would know this...
[02:48] <veeyawn> Tells me No DHCPOFFERS received
[02:48] <tolldog> dcnstrct: that used to be a standard trick for dual booting, install the bootloader on the partition instead of the mbr
[02:48] <juano_> veeyawn: did you specify eth1?
[02:48] <tolldog> i don't remember how to do it
[02:49] <pumpkinhead> how can i get direct rendering?
[02:49] <veeyawn> With iwconfig I do see the AP and good signal
[02:49] <veeyawn> I did do dhclient eth1, yes
[02:49] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: did you manage to format your harddrive?
[02:49] <k5utcchad> hmm
[02:49] <Kirok> dcnstrct: the grub files should still be on the linux partition you just need to reinstall it as the bootloader
[02:50] <dcnstrct> Kirok, how do I know which harddrive to install it on ?
[02:50] <dcnstrct> Kirok, I can't figure out which of the two windows drives is the one I need to install the bootloader on
[02:50] <malt> malt@malt-laptop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/xinetd.d/Xvnc
[02:50] <malt> cannot open display:
[02:50] <malt> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[02:50] <malt> malt@malt-laptop:~$
[02:50] <Kirok> dcnstrct: try looking here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:50] <malt> sorry for that 4 lines
[02:50] <malt> what could be wrong with my geedit?
[02:51] <riotkittie> malt: ehhh do you have X running?
[02:51] <malt> riotkittie: yes i got a screen?
[02:51] <malt> gnome
[02:51] <malt> desktop
[02:51] <k5utcchad> any one who can help me with /etc/apt/sources.list failure please msg direct
[02:51] <riotkittie> try ALT+F2 ...   gksudo gedit
[02:51] <ucordes> malt: maybe reinstall gedit
[02:51] <NixerX> Anyone know where i can find information on setting up DNS on my dedicated server...
[02:52] <pumpkinhead> is there a better geforce driver?
[02:52] <riotkittie> no wait. hm.
[02:52] <rioghal> k5utcchad, What is the failure? Can you pastebin the output or the sources.list file?
[02:52] <age6racer> hey all, does anyone know whether wpa_supplicant 'has' to be used with ndiswrapper? or if I can somehow configure WPA support while using my wireless card's firmware instead?
[02:52] <k5utcchad> cant connect error
[02:52] <ucordes> NixerX: Dyndns?
[02:52] <k5utcchad> tried all in the list with same result
[02:53] <rioghal> k5utcchad, Are you using US sources?
[02:53] <k5utcchad> yes to us sources and no can paiste to this machine
[02:53] <NixerX> ucordes: Nope its a purchased dedicated server, I own the www dot and its static.
[02:54] <k5utcchad> running 6.10 server
[02:54] <rioghal> k5utcchad, I just noticed a few folks on the forums have reported very slow US sources links. It's possible that you can conect later.
[02:54] <ucordes> NixerX: you running ubuntu server on it?
[02:54] <NixerX> ucordes: Of course :)
[02:55] <Ice_Wewe> does the x64 kernel include V4L?
[02:55] <ucordes> NixerX: where can you buy servers with ubuntu?
[02:55] <NixerX> ucordes: serverpronto
[02:55] <Ice_Wewe> I'm trying to use my webcam, but there is no device /dev/video0
[02:56] <NixerX> ucordes: http://www.serverpronto.com/
[02:56] <F28> hi, i was wondering would it be hard to Change my Boot image? Im running Ubuntu
[02:56] <veeyawn> juaon0_:yes I did specify
[02:56] <Ice_Wewe> F28: by boot image you mean grub?
[02:56] <age6racer> anyone? wpa_supplicant help...
[02:57] <F28> ICE: yea
[02:57] <ucordes> age6racer: you read the wireless docs?
[02:57] <age6racer> my wifi works fine (if just WEP) but I need WPA do i have to use ndiswrapper?
[02:57] <Ice_Wewe> F28: man grub and then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (and be careful, you can edit this menu from grub if you really mess things up, but make sure to backup any file you're about to edit)
[02:57] <Ice_Wewe> age6racer: wouldn't it just be easier to use WEP?
[02:57] <pumpkinhead> does anyone else have problems with their nvidia cards on ubuntu?
[02:58] <ucordes> age6racer: nonono ndiswrapper is something different. if your wifi allready works you don't need this
[02:58] <F28> Ice: thanks ;)
[02:58] <psiDevil98> hi, i am really new to linux and i have a question about connecting to my wireless network
[02:58] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: using the 'evil' closed source NVidia driver, no.
[02:58] <ucordes> !ndiswrapper | age6racer
[02:58] <ubotu> age6racer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <age6racer> Yes. but that's upto the admin of the netowrk isn't it Ice_Wewe
[02:58] <pumpkinhead> IW where can i obtain this evil driver
[02:58] <Ice_Wewe> age6racer: oh, right, I'm making assumptions
[02:59] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: you can get it with your kernel from the Ubuntu mirrors, you just have to enable Universe and Multiverse
[02:59] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: you don't happen to be an expert on video4linux, do you?
[02:59] <rioghal> pumpkinhead, Have a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <pumpkinhead> IW i'm afraid you were over my head with the previous suggestion :p
[02:59] <ucordes> age6racer: read your way through the wiki
[02:59] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: about the enabling, or the V4L?
[03:00] <NkZ> Good nite. Some update I did messed up my whole linux, starting from nvidia-glx to xserver-xgl. Now not even a game will open up and even the sound Is dead. What could I do?
[03:00] <psiDevil98> hey, im running a laptop and have a suspicion i need a driver for my network card
[03:00] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: prey
[03:00] <Ice_Wewe> psiDevil98: welcome to the club
[03:00] <pumpkinhead> IW i don't know how to enable, and definitely no expert
[03:00] <k5utcchad> what laptop/ wificard
[03:00] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[03:00] <psiDevil98> well, im just wondering...
[03:00] <F28> Ice, i meant like when you boot up and its loading and it says Kubuntu(or Ubuntu) HOw would i change that
[03:01] <psiDevil98> is there anywhere in ubuntu where i can see what type of network card i have
[03:01] <NkZ> Ha ha ha ha good one Ice. But I doubt Jesus will come down and with a touch turn my PC into wine. :-) You sugest a Reformat?
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> pumpkinhead: go to "Settings" and "Repo"... and enable them
[03:01] <pumpkinhead> rioghal thanks for the link
[03:01] <psiDevil98> cause im not sure what the model is
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: no, that's the windoze way
[03:01] <psiDevil98> heh, ok
[03:01] <pumpkinhead> IW i've got synaptic i'll do the settings...
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: I'd suggest preforming the command at the beginning of xorg.conf
[03:01] <ucordes> psiDevil98: what does lspci | grep Network give you?
[03:01] <rioghal> pumpkinhead, You're welcome.. that page has saved my butt a few times
[03:01] <Ice_Wewe> NkZ: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:01] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys?
[03:01] <psiDevil98> aha, device mangaer
[03:02] <psiDevil98> common sense does pay off
[03:02] <Ice_Wewe> subzero800: install openpgp
[03:02] <Ricesteam> hi everyone, i just updated my ATI drivers to the latest binary drivers, but my login screen resolution is broken
[03:02] <Ice_Wewe> Ricesteam: get NVidia
[03:02] <Ice_Wewe> next!
[03:02] <ucordes> rioghal: how do you make this neat chinese-symbol-smiley?
[03:02] <Ricesteam> i can still login my computer and it works fine from then on
[03:02] <NkZ> Will test that.
[03:02] <rioghal> ucordes, I cheated, lol
[03:02] <Ricesteam> how do I fix my problem without buying a new video card?
[03:02] <k5utcchad> hey psiDevil
[03:02] <psiDevil98> yo
[03:02] <rioghal> ucordes, I saw someone else do it, I copied and pasted it into xchat's auto-replace
[03:03] <k5utcchad> do you know what type of card it is ?
[03:03] <Ice_Wewe> Ricesteam: I don't know, try the command I just told NkZ to perform
[03:03] <psiDevil98> no, thats what im checkin for right now
[03:03] <F28> Hmmmm, what things would y'all recommend me apt-get?
[03:03] <toulouse>
[03:03] <k5utcchad> try ls pci at a console
[03:03] <psiDevil98> im looking at device manager, i hope thats the right place
[03:03] <psiDevil98> ok
[03:03] <rioghal> toulouse, That's another good one
[03:03] <Caca> Totally ignoring this line...
[03:03] <Ricesteam> Ice_Wewe, I didn't receive what you type for NKz
[03:04] <NkZ> Question: You have any Idea of why the sound could go dead? (Not muted, Already checked)
[03:04] <toulouse>
[03:04] <toulouse> apps>char. map
[03:04] <Ice_Wewe> Ricesteam: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:04] <facugaich> I have an AMD Athlon but Ubuntu defaulted to linux-386, should I install K7?
[03:04] <AmaroqWolf> A friend of mine is suggesting for me to use EasyUbuntu. What do you guys think?
[03:04] <Ricesteam> Ice_Wewe, thank you
[03:05] <mvfeinstein>  Can anyone here help me... I can seem to get amarok to recognize a key that is recognized by gnome... It is the shuffle key on a logitech s510
[03:05] <_Sean> !compile
[03:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:05] <subzero800> Ice_Wewe: even when i reinstall Gnupgp, i still get the same error
[03:05] <jengc0il> hello
[03:05] <Captayne> hullo
[03:05] <jengc0il> !xmms
[03:05] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:05] <Ice_Wewe> subzero800: then I have no idea, installing PGP solved it for me
[03:05] <subzero800> Ice_Wewe: GNUPGP?
[03:05] <Captayne> I have a question - is 64bit pc ubuntu worth messing with?
[03:05] <Captayne> i know drivers etc are going to be awkward
[03:06] <ucordes> psiDevil98: type lspci in a terminal and paste the output here: ...
[03:06] <Captayne> better to stick to 32 for now?
[03:06] <swami> anyoane tell me a good desktop-tool for supervising the cpu temperature mem status cpu statu and si on...?
[03:06] <ucordes> !paste psiDevil98
[03:06] <Ice_Wewe> subzero800: yeah, try that one
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste psiDevil98 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <psiDevil98> kk
[03:06] <rioghal> AmaroqWolf, I feel that you should learn to install things manually, that way when something breaks you won't be stuck wondering what to do. There's no replacement for knowledge.
[03:06] <NkZ> F28 Definitelly get the video codecs. :-P
[03:06] <ucordes> !paste | psiDevil98
[03:06] <ubotu> psiDevil98: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[03:06] <psiDevil98> kewl
[03:06] <swami> anyoane tell me a good desktop-tool for supervising the cpu temperature mem status cpu statu and si on...?
[03:07] <AmaroqWolf> rioghal, that's my opinion as well. Apparently though, it can also make things run faster on your system. Unfurtunately, I don't know what easyubuntu does, so I don't know how to look up what it does to do it myself.
[03:07] <Ice_Wewe> swami: I prefer lm_sensors myself, but I'm sure there are applets that will do that sort of thing for you
[03:07] <swami> somethig to appear on the screen sn to stay there telling me those information in real time
[03:07] <NkZ> BRB
[03:08] <psiDevil98> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1133/
[03:08] <rioghal> AmaroqWolf, You should be able to find the source code for EasyUbuntu, take it apart and find out what all it does.
[03:08] <F28> !codecs
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <F28> O_o
[03:08] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:08] <jengc0il> !codecs
[03:08] <psiDevil98> looks like Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[03:08] <Caca> Ah, this 'erroneous nickname' is turning headache on me.
[03:08] <AmaroqWolf> Okay rioghal, thank you. xD I'm rather new to linux, so I'll see how that works out.
[03:08] <k5utcchad> you have an intel
[03:08] <psiDevil98> k
[03:09] <pip`> is intel bad for kubuntu ?
[03:09] <pip`> ubuntu
[03:09] <k5utcchad> not sure
[03:09] <psiDevil98> the weird thing is, i have a little display light on my laptop to tell me whether or not the wireless card is active
[03:09] <psiDevil98> and its blinking on and off
[03:09] <rioghal> AmaroqWolf, You can always ask things like "how do I do this or that" in here. Also, http://ubuntuforums.org is awesome for finding information and posting questions.
[03:09] <k5utcchad> yeah most do
[03:09] <_Sean> after ./configure, what is my target for make?
[03:09] <k5utcchad> mine does
[03:09] <subzero800> psiDevil98: what kind of laptp?
[03:09] <Caca> Most do when there's traffic.
[03:10] <_Sean> (gaim)
[03:10] <psiDevil98> dell xps m1710
[03:10] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:10] <k5utcchad> that should work Id think
[03:10] <psiDevil98> i would imagine
[03:10] <Bentley333> Need help with php5 please.  Just upgraded my 6.10 server from php4 to php5 and now php doesn't work.  When I access a php file from a browser it just says 'you have chosen to download blah.php'
[03:10] <psiDevil98> perhaps i am just not doing something right
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> # Repository for wine
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[03:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> is this right for getting wine?
[03:10] <k5utcchad> try iwconfig ath0 in terminal
[03:10] <rance> is anyone a sound expert, I've tried two different sound cards and no matter what I do, I can't get sound from either of them, but both sound cards are properly detected at boot and the correct modules loaded, channels arent muted, but still no sound.
[03:10] <swami> what about the memory status and cpu status or the nettwork stsatus...anyoane knows prog for such thingS?
[03:10] <psiDevil98> k
[03:10] <k5utcchad> or maybe wifi0
[03:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !wine
[03:11] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:11] <Caca> Intel 3945 according to Dell's page.
[03:11] <subzero800> My 3945 works fine
[03:11] <swami> what about the memory status and cpu status or the nettwork stsatus...anyoane knows prog for such thingS?
[03:11] <Caca> Slick lookin' notebook.
[03:11] <psiDevil98> yeah?
[03:11] <k5utcchad> kewl im out
[03:11] <subzero800> yeah, Acer 5672Wlmi
[03:11] <psiDevil98> i must be doin something wrong in the configuration
[03:11] <kyncani> rance: alsamixer might help
[03:11] <Caca> I'd rather have a palmtop over a notebook, then again I'd rather eat Macaroni & Cheese pooled in Coca-Cola and mustard than not.
[03:12] <subzero800> make sure you have the exact case of the network you're trying to connect to
[03:12] <TruthElixirX> Okay, I am using the live CD, and have been installing Ubuntu while I browsed the net on the live CD. Is there anyway I can check and see if it installed correctly befoer restarting my computer? Sort of like a confirmation?
[03:12] <rioghal> Caca, eeewwww
[03:12] <Caca> rioghal: Don't knock it 'till you try it. :)
[03:12] <subzero800> TruthElixirX: why? just restart man, your good
[03:13] <Caca> Had to get inventive as a child, only thing my dad knew how to make in the morning. lol
[03:13] <rioghal> hahahaha
[03:13] <ucordes> psiDevil98: it might be a bit problematic because you have a very new wireless chipset called BCM5752.
[03:13] <TruthElixirX> Becuase this is my like 4th attempt at trying to install it. Someone suggersted using a different file system this time instead of ext3, and I want to make sure
[03:13] <psiDevil98> hm, ok
[03:13] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:13] <NkZ> Reconfiguring the X startup didnt do the Magic.
[03:13] <subzero800> !PGP
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about PGP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <subzero800> !openpgp
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openpgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <ucordes> psiDevil98: did you do anything to install it?
[03:14] <Bentley333> wha about PHP...know about that?
[03:14] <Steve^> Hey, is the main Ubuntu and the LiveCD the same download?
[03:14] <psiDevil98> i am running the live version of ubuntu
[03:14] <TruthElixirX> well, restarting.. will see how it works.. Wish me luck.
[03:14] <subzero800> luck*
[03:14] <ucordes> TruthElixirX: GL
[03:15] <Caca> Gaim's not so bad for IRC after all, oooo'deee'dah.
[03:15] <psiDevil98> be back later
[03:15] <psiDevil98> thanks for the help
[03:15] <k5utcchad> never had any luck using live cd and wifi
[03:15] <yanger> is there a way to delink totem from ubuntu-desktop package?
[03:16] <Caca> Yanger: Not unless you want to make your own meta-package, it's safe to remove ubuntu-desktop though.
[03:16] <NkZ> Is there any way to load a, lets call it "image" to reset my system to default configs?
[03:16] <yanger> Caca,  oh, it is?
[03:16] <Caca> NkZ: Not that I know nothing of, but look into Casper.
[03:16] <jessid> hello friends...how is everybody?
[03:17] <yanger> i thought that would remove my whole desktop
[03:17] <Caca> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package in itself.
[03:17] <malt> Error: Can't open display: I got that on my VNC install trying to connect to VNC, or suing gedit for the config. what could be wrong?
[03:17] <jessid> I want to ask if some of you have any idea what a replayed transaction is?
[03:17] <NkZ> Thanks Caca.
[03:18] <yanger> odd, i did apt-get remove totem totem-mozilla and totem still starts when you type totem at the console
[03:19] <NkZ> Seems like I blew up by mystake my whole Nvidia Drivers and ended up messing up the xserver-glx aswell (Due to an Update being mean to Beryl) and now my PC is being mean, what could I do?
[03:19] <Caca> That's the Mozilla plug-in to embed Totem.
[03:19] <ucordes> yanger: totem-mozilla is only the totem plugin for mozilla ;)
[03:19] <yanger> ucordes, but totem itself should of removed the totem player, right?
[03:19] <Caca> One would imagine...
[03:20] <yanger> apt-get remove totem totem-mozilla <- i also listed totem itself
[03:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> NkZ , Ctrl + Alt + F1 ....and fix the xserver config file ....
[03:20] <Caca> yanger: Do this in the terminal: 'dpkg -l totem'.
[03:20] <ucordes> yanger: sudo apt-get remove totem
[03:20] <Caca> Removing 'totem' might not remove 'totem-gstreamer' or 'totem-xine'.
[03:20] <yanger> totem-gstreamer is listed
[03:20] <subzero800> anyone: why do I get a "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found." response when I try to download keys? (I tried re-installing GNUPGP and it still gives me the error)
[03:20] <yanger> oh.. lemme see
[03:21] <neghsmoke> hey guys, how do i get Direct Rendering to say yes?
[03:21] <yanger> ~$ totem
[03:21] <yanger> bash: /usr/bin/totem: No such file or directory
[03:21] <Caca> neghsmoke: Install the display driver for your device.
[03:21] <neghsmoke> Caca, I have
[03:21] <ucordes> neghsmoke: what does lspci | grep vga give you?
[03:21] <yanger> odd error.. it's like totem's still there... symlink probably..
[03:21] <NkZ> Tried that, but didnt help much
[03:21] <Caca> neghsmoke: Did you edit xorg.conf to include it?
[03:21] <ucordes> neghsmoke: you can paste it in here because it should be one line only
[03:21] <neghsmoke> Caca: nothing
[03:22] <neghsmoke> err
[03:22] <neghsmoke> ucordes: nothing
[03:22] <ucordes> lspci | grep VGA
[03:22] <neghsmoke> Caca, not sure
[03:22] <neghsmoke> wait
[03:22] <neghsmoke> yes i think i did
[03:22] <Jachy> Hey, could anyone offer me some insight why any package manging utilities I use are waaay slower than my normal web browsing?
[03:23] <Caca> Well, what chipset is it, Nvidia? You'll have to start nvidia-kernel or restart.
[03:23] <neghsmoke> ATI Radeon
[03:23] <OzoneCo> i kept messing with the installer...now i have 4 swap partitions, and 4 ext3 partitions, how do i know which one that i am currently using?
[03:23] <Caca> Ah, have no experience with ATi cards. :\
[03:23] <ucordes> Jachy: man you can't compare browsing your packages with browsing the web lol
[03:23] <evilgold> neghsmoke, what model radeon?
[03:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> OzoneCo ,u should have only 1 swap ....
[03:23] <neghsmoke> I was having problems with websites lagging while scrolling, then i installed drivers, and it was fixed
[03:23] <neghsmoke> evilgold: x1600
[03:24] <evilgold> neghsmoke, have you isntalled fglrx ?
[03:24] <Jachy> But my web downloads are 150+ kb/s, while the package manager downloads are 56K speed, 2-6 kb/s.
[03:24] <neghsmoke> evilgold: yes
[03:24] <ubuntu__> hey, how do i mount my linux partition when running the live cd?
[03:24] <neghsmoke> that's what fixed the website scrolling problem
[03:24] <Sipadocup> Oh lord, figures.
[03:24] <evilgold> neghsmoke, and your xorg is using the the driver?
[03:25] <neghsmoke> how can i be sure evilgold
[03:25] <OzoneCo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: i want to delete the others, how do i tell which slice is in use when the system boots?
[03:25] <ubuntu__> are alot of people having problems with xorg?
[03:25] <ucordes> yanger: oh i see. sorry i got you wrong. maybe the server is stressed hardly atm
[03:25] <NkZ> Think I will have to solve it by the lame way of reformat (I messed it too much)
[03:25] <evilgold> neghsmoke, run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:25] <ucordes> cya all have fun
[03:25] <BULLE> OzoneCo: mount will tell you waht partitions are mounted, as what
[03:25] <evilgold> and look for the Driver line
[03:25] <TruthElixirX> No dice
[03:25] <TruthElixirX> Same thing happened
[03:25] <Lam_> my second hard drive has bad sectors that corrupted the linux partition and i want to somehow fix this. what's the best approach?
[03:25] <[GnB] jabberwocky> use gedit rather than nano, i find nano hard to use.
[03:26] <evilgold> neghsmoke, if it says radeon, or ati change it to fglrx
[03:26] <neghsmoke> and what am i looking for in here
[03:26] <Sipadocup> [GnB] jabberwocky: ... you're not from Neowin perse, eh?
[03:26] <TruthElixirX> I did notice this time that when I was shutting down it said something about "mount failed" or "no mount found" or something. Whenver you're shutting down after install, the long list of stuff that pops up
[03:26] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_: bad sectors? that's a sign the drive itself is failing. you'd probably be better off working on getting a new drive.
[03:26] <neghsmoke> evilgold: only thing i see outside the comments is Section Files: fontpath
[03:27] <Jachy> I don't see how the package stuff could be as sluggish as 56K, as I have DSL...
[03:27] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Sipadocup: nope. orange county, ca, usa.
[03:27] <evilgold> neghsmoke, look for "section "Device"
[03:27] <Lam_> [GnB] jabberwocky: exactly. i want to get my data off the drive, but i can't access the data because the linux partition table itself is corrupted or something
[03:27] <Sipadocup> Probably just a coincidence. Cursed illegal nicks.
[03:27] <Steve^> Hey, is the main Ubuntu and the LiveCD the same download?
[03:27] <evilgold> neghsmoke, control + W to search
[03:27] <OzoneCo> mount shows several things, i can see the ext3 slice, which is the swap?
[03:27] <Lam_> [GnB] jabberwocky: i can get the data with dd_rescue/dd_rhelp, but i can't access it because of the corrupted partition table
[03:27] <TruthElixirX> So any new suggestions? (For those not here prior, after I install Ubuntu and restart is won't boot into Ubuntu. Tells me "Please insert appropriate boot disk and restart"
[03:28] <evilgold> neghsmoke, then type Section "Device"
[03:28] <ucordes> neghsmoke: please follow this guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b-2
[03:28] <neghsmoke> evilgold: Identifier= "Radeon x1600" driver="fglrx"
[03:28] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_:  there's a program our techshop uses to recover such things, but i can't seem to recall the name.
[03:28] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_: you'll need to recover the files to a separate drive, though.
[03:28] <NkZ> Well, I am gone. Have a good nite guys.
[03:28] <evilgold> neghsmoke, try what ucordes sent
[03:29] <neghsmoke> k brb
[03:29] <ubuntu__> hey, how do i mount my linux partition when running the live cd?
[03:29] <Lam_> [GnB] jabberwocky: i already have a new third drive taht's ready for that. i already backed up/imaged the data, but like i said, i can't access it
[03:29] <OzoneCo> any other commands besides mount?
[03:29] <[GnB] jabberwocky> a few questions: first, is there any generic name for those widget-esque things i see on people's desktops, so i have something to google for? second, anyone know of a way to setup a nickserv macro in gaim so i don't have to type my password in every time i join?
[03:29] <evilgold> ubuntu__, use the mount command
[03:29] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Lam_: hmm. lemmie see if i can find a program for that.
[03:29] <Toph> i am running ubuntu 6.10 and have a persistent problem,,, after a day or 2, i can have several programs running and they run well, but suddenly, any additional programs fail to load,, i start them up, they attempt to load, but don't,, reboot solves the problem
[03:30] <Sipadocup> You aren't thinking of 'dd' or 'ddrescue' are you?
[03:30] <ubuntu__> evilgold, ive tried doing mount -w /dev/hda, but it says it's not there
[03:30] <Sipadocup> Those are more for damages disks than ones with bad sectors.
[03:30] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Sipadocup: no, it's a windows program
[03:30] <Sipadocup> Damaged, even.
[03:30] <Sipadocup> Oh, for Windows, hmm.
[03:30] <evilgold> ubuntu__, you need to specify a partition
[03:30] <evilgold> mount -w /dev/hda1 for example
[03:31] <Jachy> So ucordes, maybe you can elaborate on the package stuff. x3
[03:31] <ubuntu__> what if i did, mount -a -w /dev/hda1
[03:31] <evilgold> ubuntu__, and also a place to mount the partition
[03:31] <TruthElixirX> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334968
[03:31] <TruthElixirX> There is a more detailed account of my problem.
[03:31] <evilgold> ubuntu__, mkdir /media/hda1
[03:31] <ubuntu__> evilgold, where would i mount it to?  /mnt/ubuntu?
[03:31] <OzoneCo> what determines where the system finds the swap?
[03:32] <TruthElixirX> I've tried selecting "Use Local Disk" on the Ubuntu menu on the install CD, but it jsut sits there and never finds the local disk or cant' boto from it.
[03:32] <evilgold> ubuntu__, mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[03:32] <[GnB] jabberwocky> OzoneCo: you. ubuntu sets it up itself, but you can specify a specific partition for it during install if you want.
[03:32] <evilgold> ubuntu__, you can mount it wherever you want as long as the folder exists
[03:32] <ubuntu__> evilgold, it says special device does not exist
[03:33] <OzoneCo> so if i log out, delete 3 of the 4, and then restart, it will use whichever one i leave?
[03:33] <[GnB] jabberwocky> widgets? anyone?
[03:33] <[GnB] jabberwocky> =/
[03:33] <Sipadocup> Could always edit /etc/fstab had you moved the swp partition or use the 'mkswp' utility.
[03:33] <ubuntu__> evilgold, mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[03:33] <wadoodem> hi
[03:33] <wadoodem> hi
[03:33] <Sipadocup> Locally-echoed name hasn't changed, this is blasphemy of Gaim's doing.
[03:34] <OzoneCo> i kept backing up during the install, and created 4 sets of partitions
[03:34] <evilgold> ubuntu__, try /dev/sda1
[03:34] <wadoodem> i need help ... im a noob on linux Ubuntu 6.10
[03:34] <[GnB] jabberwocky> ask a question, plese.
[03:34] <[GnB] jabberwocky> *please.
[03:34] <OzoneCo> now i would like to use my partition tool and delete the others...i can see them, just dont know what to toss out
[03:34] <OzoneCo> dont mind a reload, just gonna try not to have too
[03:34] <Toph> [GnB] jabberwocky, ,,i asked one,,no one responded
[03:35] <wadoodem> if i posible to install a maya 8 64 on ubuntu?
[03:35] <ubuntu__> thanks evilgold
[03:35] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: with wine or cedega it might be
[03:35] <Sipadocup> Ah, that worked beautifully.
[03:35] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: i really hope so, 'cause i want to get XSI working
[03:35] <wadoodem> do i have to dlad the wine..
[03:36] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: yes. sudo apt-get install wine
[03:36] <TruthElixirX> Can anyone help? Or do I just need to give up? >.>
[03:36] <wadoodem> thanks i will try
[03:36] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wadoodem: then winecfg
[03:36] <wadoodem> hold  im noob on linux
[03:36] <Jachy> Why can I browse and download at 150+kbps but I can only download packages at 1-6kbps?
[03:37] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Jachy: other servers are not as fast as you are.
[03:37] <Krank_> Was there an update to the x-server recently (x.org)?
[03:37] <AmaroqWolf> I download packages fast though, [GnB] jabberwocky
[03:37] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: well, that's the only thing i can think of.
[03:38] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: also, it depends on the package.
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> x3
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> Me and Jachy have identical linuxes, ubuntu dapper drake. xD
[03:38] <Jachy> WinE, for example, downloads at an amazing few kb/s.
[03:38] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: but are you downloading identical packages?
[03:38] <DesertEagle> hello people :)
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> Cept he got easy ubuntu. :P
[03:38] <AmaroqWolf> Um, I dunno xD
[03:38] <Jachy> Hey, it's easy and lazy.
[03:39] <lotacus> heh. so I have a big green overlay on workspace 1 which is where beryl is supposed to be active. :(
[03:39] <[GnB] jabberwocky> wine is very popular, there's a lot more demand for that.
[03:39] <lotacus> anyone know how to sort this problem out?
[03:39] <BULLE> Jachy: because when you are downloading packages you are doing that from a mirror that has a pretty slow internet connection, whereas the webpages come from webservers with high bandwith available
[03:39] <DesertEagle> i have a question regarding vmware server
[03:39] <[GnB] jabberwocky> lotacus: on the workspace viewer or on the screen itself?
[03:39] <TruthElixirX> Can anyone help with my boot problem?
[03:39] <AmaroqWolf> What package was it jachy?
[03:39] <Jachy> Is there some way to change which mirror?
[03:39] <AmaroqWolf> Maybe we can both do a test on one package to see.
[03:39] <Jachy> And right now I'm downloading PyGame at the same slow rate.
[03:39] <lotacus> the screen itself when I ctrl-alt leftarrow
[03:39] <lotacus> on the 1st workspace
[03:40] <lotacus> I have no effects or anything :(
[03:40] <[GnB] jabberwocky> Jachy: check the package's website, they might have another repository for you.
[03:40] <DesertEagle> does anyone know why my vmware server installer won't ask for my key? :(
[03:40] <AmaroqWolf> I'll do pygame as well then. What do I apt-get for pygame exactly again?
[03:40] <lotacus> xgl is running
[03:40] <[GnB] jabberwocky> lotacus: have all your drivers installed? you have an ati or nvidia card?
[03:40] <DesertEagle> it doesn't let me create virtual machines
[03:40] <lotacus> which I confirmed by ps ax|grep Xgl|grep -v grep
[03:40] <[GnB] jabberwocky> AmaroqWolf: apt-get pygame?
[03:40] <TruthElixirX> My computer won't boot into linux after its installed.
[03:40] <lotacus> ati x1650
[03:40] <OzoneCo> can ya put a vm in a vm?
[03:41] <[GnB] jabberwocky> lotacus: hmm. not sure, sorry =/
[03:41] <QwertyM> A little help... am gonna try an offline installation of packages that get stored in apt-get cache. Now for example I wish to install amarok on gnome Ubuntu 6.10. Will just downloading amarok and amarok-xine DEBs be enough?
[03:41] <BULLE> OzoneCo: what exactly do you mean with "vm" in this context ?
[03:41] <[GnB] jabberwocky> BULLE: virtual machine
[03:41] <Jachy> Yay, finally finished it...
[03:41] <lotacus> where is the cvs repository located for beryl?
[03:41] <[GnB] jabberwocky>  /cheer
[03:41] <lotacus> i'm gonna try the latest
[03:41] <OzoneCo> vmplayer appliance
[03:41] <user123> is usb d-link dwl g132 good for linux?
[03:41] <evilgold> is it just me or are the ubuntu repositories ungodly slow tonight?
[03:42] <malt> anybody here have VNC server working on ubuntu?
[03:42] <OzoneCo> i have xp in an appliance running on my ubuntu
[03:42] <BULLE> [GnB] jabberwocky: there are lots of very different types of virtual machines
[03:42] <BULLE> does he mean the java virtual machine, or the new kernel virtual machine, or what ?
[03:42] <neghsmoke> what's the command to open a file for viewing by sudo
[03:42] <[GnB] jabberwocky> user123: you're probably gonna end up using ndiswrapper no matter what you do
[03:42] <BULLE> if so, yes he can run a kvm instance and in that instance start a jvm
[03:42] <Jordan_U> evilgold: Try another mirror
[03:42] <BULLE> but its realy all up to exactly what virtual machine he is thinking of
[03:42] <Jordan_U> neghsmoke: gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[03:43] <DesertEagle> how bout my virtual machine issue? :D
[03:43] <DesertEagle> vmware won't ask for my key :(
[03:43] <AmaroqWolf> [GnB] jabberwocky, pygame has a version number, 2.4 I think, that jachy's getting. And your name is hard to type. lol.
[03:43] <Pelo> does anyone know how to manualy mount a webcam ? the driver is there it just isn'T mounting as /dev/video0
[03:43] <TruthElixirX> I give up. Windows it is. *sigh*
[03:43] <DesertEagle> quitter! :P
[03:43] <BULLE> DesertEagle: mail vmware support ?
[03:43] <Q_Continuum> The Ubuntu Artwork package, anyone know offhand where those get installed to by default?
[03:43] <Jachy> Nah, there are two pygame files in the repository that are both installed.
[03:43] <Q_Continuum> err Desktop (monthly)
[03:43] <AmaroqWolf> Oh
[03:44] <DesertEagle> noice!
[03:44] <TruthElixirX> Thanks
[03:44] <evilgold> Jordan_U, I did, but i want to know... are the us mirrors slow for anyone else?
[03:44] <AmaroqWolf> xD I only have one of them installed jachy
[03:44] <Jachy> Which one?
[03:44] <jessid> hello...some of you remember the name of the application that allows the GUI to become like rubber?
[03:44] <TruthElixirX> IF someone could at least point me at the place I need ot read on the wiki or something. >.<
[03:44] <AmaroqWolf> python-pygame
[03:45] <BULLE> jessid: window manager - beryl ?
[03:45] <varsendagger> hey how do i upgrade firefox   and install the new flash player
[03:45] <AmaroqWolf> it doesn't have a 2.4 in it
[03:45] <Pelo> !xgl | jessid
[03:45] <ubotu> jessid: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:45] <Jachy> Is there one with the 2.4 in it?
[03:45] <BULLE> beryl is realy much nicer then compiz imho
[03:45] <AmaroqWolf> xD yeah ther eis.
[03:45] <Jachy> (Or you could always try running an example, Amaroq.)
[03:45] <AmaroqWolf> *there
[03:45] <BULLE> but i guess you get rubbery windows with either
[03:45] <jessid> BULLE yes!
[03:46] <pl_ice> hey, i need a hand with bluetooth, can't set the pin
[03:46] <Sargun> I want to fly away!
[03:46] <jessid> Pelo thats it...thanks!
[03:46] <BULLE> Sargun: may i recomend SD Airlines
[03:46] <neghsmoke> evilgold: i ran through that whole writeup
[03:46] <neghsmoke> did everything they said
[03:46] <user123> [GnB] jabberwocky: I try ndiswrapper but not recognize the device
[03:46] <neghsmoke> and the only thing i could find that might be a problem
[03:46] <Sargun> SD?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> TruthElixirX: What exactly happens when you try to boot
[03:46] <Jordan_U> ?
[03:46] <DesertEagle> Pelo: is it connected via USB?
[03:46] <neghsmoke> is the following line in X0rg.0.log
[03:46] <neghsmoke> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[03:47] <TruthElixirX> It says
[03:47] <AmaroqWolf> jachy, you might need to add some things to the um... repository thingies file thingy.
[03:47] <Pelo> DesertEagle,  yes, but the easycam won't mount it
[03:47] <TruthElixirX> "Please insert boot disk and hit a key or restart."
[03:47] <AmaroqWolf> like multiverse, etc. I had to do that too.
[03:47] <jessid> BULLE, Pelo dont those 2 work together?
[03:47] <DesertEagle> hmm, dunno easycam
[03:47] <AmaroqWolf> Does anyone remember where that is?
[03:47] <RedStamp> If your not living life on the Edgy your taking up too much space.
[03:47] <BULLE> jessid: no
[03:47] <Pelo> DesertEagle,  what do you use ?
[03:47] <BULLE> jessid: beryl is a fork of compiz
[03:47] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: you seem to not have a bootloader installed
[03:47] <Flannel> !grub | TruthElixirX
[03:47] <ubotu> TruthElixirX: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:47] <DesertEagle> Pelo, haven't actually tried yet
[03:47] <Jachy> I've clicked all of those, Amaroq.
[03:47] <Jordan_U> TruthElixirX: This is after installing Ubuntu? Did it ever work?
[03:47] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: first link there will tell you how to install GRUB
[03:47] <DesertEagle> Pelo, last time i dealt with linux and webcam was like 6 years ago :S
[03:48] <Jachy> I don't remember if it installed everything due to sluggishness, but still.
[03:48] <AmaroqWolf> I think there's a file you have to modify
[03:48] <Jachy> Oh?
[03:48] <RedStamp> aiglx xgl beryl etc compiz bla bla dont work on my box makes it too unstable. is that common?
[03:48] <enzooo> @find porn
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> I've tried that walk through
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> on installing grub
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> and it didn't do anything
[03:48] <DesertEagle> wtf?
[03:48] <DesertEagle> enzooo?
[03:48] <n0obuntu> Hi there, does anyone know how I can set up a portion of my HDD to save persistent data, bearing in mind I am very new to this??
[03:48] <BULLE> Pelo: when you insert the usb cam, does dmesg show some info about a new usb device being detected ?
[03:48] <Pelo> DesertEagle,  this is a cheap ass digital camera my brother just gave me
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> It was suggested in the thread I amde on the forum
[03:48] <evilgold> neghsmoke, I was able to get my ati card working by using the drivers from there site
[03:48] <evilgold> maybe you should try that
[03:48] <TruthElixirX> and it didn't appear to change a thing. Could it be possible something else, in addition to my hard drive, failed?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: XGL is not very stable, AIGLX and beryl/compiz should be though
[03:48] <BULLE> Pelo: batman one ?
[03:48] <RedStamp> If at first you dont succeed sky diving wasnt for you
[03:48] <evilgold> The ati site i mean
[03:48] <Pelo> BULLE,  the cam is detected , I can use it as a usbdisk  but I can' tmount it as a webcam
[03:49] <Pelo> BULLE,  yes
[03:49] <Pelo> the batman cam
[03:49] <DesertEagle> Pelo, back in my day, i had to do the entire drivers setup by hand
[03:49] <Krank_> !xorg
[03:49] <Pelo> make that the batcam
[03:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:49] <RedStamp> Jordan_U I lost the top bar on windows.
[03:49] <Azabe> how do i change repository in synaptic?
[03:49] <DesertEagle> Pelo, if so... a good starting point would be getting the drivers
[03:49] <BULLE> Pelo: so, basicly, the driver that is loading is the usb mass storage driver part
[03:49] <RedStamp> windows under ubuntu to clarify
[03:49] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: your BIOS might be setup funky, basically, your computer is going through all the boot options, and not finding anything valid
[03:49] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: valid being, something bootable
[03:49] <BULLE> Pelo: is this the general usb mass storage module, or is it some special batcam module ?
[03:50] <Pelo> BULLE,  yes,  DesertEagle  I have the driver and it is installed,  it just won't mount as /dev/video0 for me to use with an app
[03:50] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: What setup are you using, AIGLX? compiz? beryl?
[03:50] <TruthElixirX> @Flannel, so how would I fix that?
[03:50] <varsendagger> TruthElixirX, hey did you install linux then delete it?
[03:50] <neghsmoke> evilgold, when i try to run the ati .run file
[03:50] <neghsmoke> i get an error
[03:50] <BULLE> Pelo: so, check in /sys if the cam stuff shows up on the usb bus
[03:50] <Krank_> !xserver
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <varsendagger> TruthElixirX, what did you do
[03:50] <Pelo> BULLE,  the general usbmass storrage module works fine,  I can get picutres and avi out no problem
[03:50] <RedStamp> ahh I have AIGLX and compiz and beryl....all of them I think
[03:50] <BULLE> Pelo: if that is the case, check udev rules, to make sure the proper dev entries gets created
[03:50] <DesertEagle> Pelo, shouldn't it be through sd0 or something like that?
[03:50] <RedStamp> it works ok under mandriva but i'm a ubuntu fan.
[03:50] <DesertEagle> or is video0 a pointer to another device?
[03:50] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: um, well, I guess check your BIOS first, make sure your HD that you have a bootloader on is in the BIOS's boot list,
[03:50] <TruthElixirX> I installed linux on a brand new HDD, got that problem. Retried on my own, same problem. Completely reformatted drive, asked for help on ubuntu forums, followed those isntructions, same problem.
[03:51] <x-r00t-x> need help with installing windows xp on vmware. mostly need with the *.vmx file.
[03:51] <pl_ice> hey, i need a hand with bluetooth
[03:51] <Vaske_Car> How to write image file to floppy disk?
[03:51] <BULLE> Pelo: yes, but the general usb mass storage module wont allow you to use the cam as a cam, right
[03:51] <Flannel> TruthElixirX: How many HDDs do you have?
[03:51] <evilgold> neghsmoke, how did you run it? you need to type somthing like sudo ./nameofthefile.run
[03:51] <TruthElixirX> 1
[03:51] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: dd
[03:51] <jack_> hi... is there a way to easily change from xubuntu to ubuntu.. or just run the ubuntu install disk and have it format the drive?
[03:51] <varsendagger> is it ide or sata?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: compiz AND beryl ? why do you have both, that might be what is causing the problems.
[03:51] <DesertEagle> x-r00t-x easyvmx.com
[03:51] <dstaudt> pl_ice: i've been suffering with bluetooth :)
[03:51] <neghsmoke> hmmm
[03:51] <evilgold> neghsmoke, and also, make sure its set as an executable file
[03:51] <BULLE> Pelo: might be that the usb mass storage module will hog the device, and stop the cam module from
[03:51] <BULLE> Pelo: working
[03:51] <Vaske_Car> Flannel, can you post example?
[03:51] <evilgold> neghsmoke, chmod +x *.run in the dir with the file
[03:51] <TruthElixirX> IDE or SATA? Umm... It has a wide ribbon type cable...? SATA I believe that is? Or is it the other cable that plus into it?
[03:51] <DesertEagle> could someone help me with graphics in grub?
[03:52] <pl_ice> dstaudt yeh, i think its the answer, it does not work, got it ping the phone, but thats it :/
[03:52] <jack_> hi... is there a way to easily change from xubuntu to ubuntu.. or just run the ubuntu install disk and have it format the drive?
[03:52] <jack_> ????
[03:52] <RedStamp> what's better compiz or beryl?
[03:52] <neghsmoke> did that
[03:52] <x-r00t-x> DesertEagle, tnx . lamme try it
[03:52] <Pelo> BULLE,   I have  /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb-storage/spca5xx
[03:52] <Music_Shuffle> !xubuntu
[03:52] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[03:52] <neghsmoke> lemme try running it with that command
[03:52] <enzooo> !sex
[03:52] <Flannel> Vaske_Car: dd if=[input]  of=[output]
[03:52] <DesertEagle> TruthElixX wide ribbon = IDE (PATA)
[03:52] <jack_> thanks'
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <TruthElixirX> IDE then
[03:52] <enzooo> porn
[03:52] <Music_Shuffle> jack_, np.
[03:52] <enzooo> !porn
[03:52] <Pelo> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:52] <dstaudt> pl_ice, what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:52] <DesertEagle> enzoo... WTF?
[03:52] <jack_> SEX ME BABALU
[03:52] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here recomend a good front end for xmms2 preferabley one that supports all of the xmms2 features
[03:52] <RedStamp> is there any good step by step pages to setup AIGLX and Compiz?
[03:52] <Pelo> !op
[03:52] <varsendagger> ide should work fine....    i know that SATA   may be a problem
[03:53] <pl_ice> dstaudt got usb bluetooth, wanna copy photos from LG phone
[03:53] <Jordan_U> !xgl | RedStamp
[03:53] <ubotu> RedStamp: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:53] <TruthElixirX> Well it isn't. :-p
[03:53] <pl_ice> !beer
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <RedStamp> thanks!!!!
[03:53] <Krank_> Anyone have a url pointing to solutions to x-server problems? After an xorg update I can't boot into the gui..
[03:53] <Music_Shuffle> !botabuse
[03:53] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:53] <varsendagger> TruthElixirX, did you install windows on this system
[03:53] <RedStamp> ahh
[03:53] <n0obuntu> !persistent
[03:53] <TruthElixirX> It was on the hard drive that failed, but I removed it and put in the new one
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about persistent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <RedStamp> thats xgl dont I want AIGXL with an ATI radeon car?
[03:53] <RedStamp> card
[03:53] <Pelo> BULLE,  I when I try to start "webcam" I get a message that no device is found at /dev/video0
[03:53] <TruthElixirX> this is a brand new HDD, nothing has been put on it(minus my faield attempts at linux)
[03:54] <dstaudt> pl_ice, i've been working with BT headsets...haven't messed with data transfer
[03:54] <varsendagger> the new one hasn't worked at all
[03:54] <Pelo> BULLE,  hence my question
[03:54] <Sipadocup> mvfeinstein: XMMS isn't an audio engine in itself, or did you mean a remote?
[03:54] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: Are you using Edgy?
[03:54] <dstaudt> pl_ice, there was lots of info available via googling
[03:54] <klees> i just finished downloading a 3.2g file with wget but the process has not ended....  is that normal?
[03:54] <RedStamp> Yes
[03:54] <pl_ice> dstaudt been on google for over an hour :)
[03:54] <Pelo> !webcam
[03:54] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:54] <RedStamp> I'm using eDGY.
[03:54] <dstaudt> pl_ice, hour, pfff!  you've just begun to fight
[03:54] <varsendagger> hey here is somehting....   is the HD   master or slave jumpered?
[03:54] <Vaske_Car> Flannel, what is the path to floppy drive?
[03:54] <mvfeinstein> Sipadocup I guess I am looking for a client
[03:54] <TruthElixirX> Master
[03:54] <neghsmoke> evilgold: sorry for being such a noob, but i'm trying to su myself, and it tells me my password is wrong. is there a default password? cus i don't think i set it
[03:54] <TruthElixirX> I made sure of that
[03:55] <BULLE> Pelo: http://mxhaard.free.fr/
[03:55] <selah> Is GRUB still on the MBR even after formatting the drive after intalling ubuntu?
[03:55] <skmidry> !WEP
[03:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:55] <Sipadocup> mvfeinstein: Nevermind, just now noticed that you said XMMS2 rather than XMMS.
[03:55] <BULLE> Pelo: so check udev rules then
[03:55] <riotkittie> neghsmoke: uh. su or sudo?
[03:55] <neghsmoke> super user
[03:55] <Pelo> BULLE,  thanks
[03:55] <varsendagger> ok....   maybe try to use knoppix   and run some test on the HD
[03:55] <x-r00t-x> DesertEagle, i got problem with few thing . 1 sound card. 2 Lan card. what i do? those are not listed there.
[03:55] <RedStamp> Is there any point installing AIGXL/compiz with a Radeon 9550 card?
[03:55] <riotkittie> sudo. dont su.
[03:55] <TruthElixirX> knoppix?
[03:55] <Azabe> after installing vncserver and running it i get the following error message... 'vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3:' whats teh name of that particular libstdc++ package that i need?
[03:55] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[03:55] <varsendagger> it is a live CD
[03:55] <varsendagger> !knoppix
[03:55] <klees> i just finished downloading a 3.2g file with wget but the process has not ended....  is that normal?
[03:55] <Pelo> BULLE,  udev ?
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <DesertEagle> x-r00t-x no clue buddy, i'm on the same wagon you are, just started using vmware
[03:56] <varsendagger> ubotu is dumb
[03:56] <RedStamp> thanks
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is dumb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <TruthElixirX> I'll just google it
[03:56] <x-r00t-x> DesertEagle, :(
[03:56] <pl_ice> dstaudt i know there is a buq in bluetooth, but can't find more info :)
[03:56] <neghsmoke> riotkittie: iu need to be super user to run ati's installation program
[03:56] <Azabe> anyone ? :>
[03:57] <josh_____> anyone got an idea of how to dock a program to the side, much like AIM does in Windows?  I'm thinking it might be possible through using the Gnome panels, but I haven't figured it out completely yet...
[03:57] <TruthElixirX> Just run the knoppix live CD and...?
[03:57] <riotkittie> neghsmoke: and you're using the su command? yes?  root is locked, su wont work. so use sudo.
[03:57] <smiesko> where i fing graphic card driver (Geforce go 6100) ?
[03:57] <pl_ice> riotkittie just a reminder there is a buq in ATI , got cought on that yesterday...
[03:57] <riotkittie> or are you *using* sudo and i am just reading you wrong?
[03:57] <jack_> !buttsecks
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buttsecks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <jack_> (
[03:57] <neghsmoke> riotkittie, like i said i am a complete noob =D installed linux yesterday
[03:57] <pl_ice> josh_____ yeh, its calld kdocker
[03:57] <swx> I need help to install gnome on a fresh AndLinux installation can you help me ?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> !language | jack_
[03:57] <ubotu> jack_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:58] <smiesko> where i find graphic card driver (Geforce go 6100) ?
[03:58] <neghsmoke> does sudo make you super user temporarily or something?
[03:58] <jrib> !nvidia  | smiesko
[03:58] <ubotu> smiesko: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:58] <Pelo> any ops around we need to get rid of an idiot
[03:58] <riotkittie> neghsmoke: yes
[03:58] <Music_Shuffle> neghsmoke, yeh.
[03:58] <burepe> I got a resolution problem. If anyone thinks they can point me in the right direction, you can read details here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1996379#post1996379
[03:58] <Jordan_U> !fglrx | smiesko
[03:58] <jack_> ?
[03:58] <jack_> o
[03:58] <varsendagger> how do i upgrade firefox
[03:58] <smiesko> ubotu: thx
[03:58] <BULLE> Jordan_U: he needs the nvidia driver, not the fglrx, dont confuse the poor chap
[03:58] <jack_> sorry.
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <jrib> varsendagger: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:58] <TruthElixirX> Anyways, thanks for the help. I have to be off though. I will probably be back tomorrow. :D
[03:58] <TruthElixirX> Thanks!
[03:58] <varsendagger> breezy
[03:58] <riotkittie> pl_ice: no need to remind me that theres a bug in ATI ...  i wouldnt expect anything less from them :P
[03:59] <chiarato> how do i run gdebi ?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> BULLE: It gives the same message :)
[03:59] <Lurner> I've been having a heck of a time installing ubuntu.. I finally had to go for the text interface in the alt Cd. and finally I got an install
[03:59] <Lurner> so I upgraded to xorg
[03:59] <Pelo> gotta go , thanks for the hlp guus
[03:59] <Pelo> guys
[03:59] <Lurner> then startx
[03:59] <Lurner> and the screen is now black
[03:59] <Lurner> how do I endx while typing blind ?
[03:59] <user123> something knows streamtuner? how can I record what I hear?
[03:59] <jrib> varsendagger: best way is to upgrade your ubuntu.  Edgy has firefox 2.0 default.  If you would rather install it manually, outside the repositories (and thus, you won't receive automatic security updates), you can type this:  /msg ubotu firefox
[03:59] <pl_ice> riotkittie u have to edit xorg otherwise there will ne no rending :P
[03:59] <Lurner> stopx ?
[03:59] <chiarato> how do i run gdebi ?
[04:00] <dstaudt> Lurner: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:00] <pl_ice> to fix the bug
[04:00] <jrib> chiarato: double click on a deb file
[04:00] <BULLE> Lurner: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:00] <BULLE> riotkittie: you are the one rioting, not me!
[04:00] <riotkittie> pl_ice:  i dont have an ati card
[04:00] <selah> burepe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-84978c53ee5461d0924f8298527f4fbc891328c9
[04:00] <chiarato> thanks
[04:00] <riotkittie> err. well. actually. i do. but. :P
[04:00] <varsendagger> jrib, thanks
[04:00] <BULLE> riotkittie: hmm, guess throwing back canisters is ok while rioting =)
[04:00] <Lurner> nothing.. still locked up ..
[04:01] <riotkittie> BULLE: i'd hope so. i'm not up-to-date on riot etiquette
[04:01] <Lurner> power down ?
[04:01] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me... I can seem to get amarok to recognize a key that is recognized by gnome... It is the shuffle key on a logitech s510
[04:01] <swx> Help installing Gnome on a copy of Edgy on wich there is no graphic interface (AndLinux), thank you
[04:01] <BULLE> Lurner: try a ctrl+alt+delete first
[04:01] <riotkittie> Lurner: uhm. what card are you using?
[04:01] <Lurner> I did.. and the hard drive made a noise but still black screen
[04:01] <BULLE> Lurner: wait a bit then
[04:01] <Lurner> riotkittie ? it's a laptop
[04:01] <BULLE> Lurner: noise is good
[04:02] <BULLE> Lurner: ctrl+alt+delete should make it shutdown, if you are lucky
[04:02] <ctothej> How do I install grub onto my hard drive sdc (hard drive where ubuntu is installed)?
[04:02] <Lurner> I just turned it off
[04:02] <riotkittie> Lurner: laptops still have gfx cards. or chips. dont they :P
[04:02] <BULLE> riotkittie: or small gnomes, that run around with pencils
[04:02] <Lurner> yes they do.. but I can't pull the card and look
[04:02] <BULLE> well, i suspect mine has gnomes
[04:02] <BULLE> damn, i should go to sleep
[04:02] <riotkittie> Lurner: you edited xorg.conf, you said?
[04:03] <BULLE> Lurner: lspci, or google
[04:03] <Lurner> no I asked how to get out of a grey screen so I could do that.. ha ha
[04:03] <swx> Can someone lead me to a how to install gnome from scratch, thank you
[04:03] <riotkittie> oh
[04:03] <Kalrog> Hopefully a quick question here, but how do I search an entire filesystem for a file?  I am trying to find my bookmark.html file from Firefox (default install of ubuntu) and ls -R isn't finding it.
[04:03] <Lurner> I will try again
[04:03] <neghsmoke> reboot time
[04:03] <magez_> hello
[04:03] <jrib> swx: what ubuntu did you install?
[04:03] <swx> hello
[04:03] <dstaudt> kalrog: use the 'fine' command
[04:03] <riotkittie> Lurner: when you reboot, do it in recovery mode... then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:03] <dstaudt> Kalrog, er "find"
[04:04] <Kalrog> Latest version.  Find, thanks.
 Edgy but this is the AndLinux version so it is by default very light
[04:04] <dstaudt> kalrog, like 'sudo find / -name myfile.txt'
 No gnome packages installed
[04:04] <jrib> Kalrog: find or locate.  locate will be faster.  it is in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html btw
[04:04] <jrib> swx: install ubuntu-desktop package
[04:04] <ctothej> how do I install grub on another hard drive?
[04:05] <rioghal> Kalrog, sudo updatedb && locate bookmarks.html
 ok in progress
[04:05] <riotkittie> locate rocks the casbah
[04:05] <palomer> hello
[04:05] <palomer> is there an alternative to kaffeine?
[04:05] <joshua__> damn running into issues installing ubuntu... it's installed in the past just fine using this cd, but now it's sticking on "Running "grub-install (hd0)"..."
[04:05] <Kalrog> Y'all are great.
[04:05] <rioghal> palomer, mplayer is one of the best, IMHO. there's also xine
[04:06] <neghsmoke> christ this is a pain, installed ati's drivers succesfully, rebooted, glxinfo | grep direct still says direct rendering: no
[04:06] <Azabe> anyone using vnc4server ? when trying to start it, it gives me the following error message 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' ; i can't find this package in synaptic... ;/
[04:06] <jrib> palomer: vlc too, but I like mplayer the best
[04:06] <somerville32> neghsmoke, Did you change the driver in the xorg.conf file?
[04:06] <derrik> Azabe: "vnc" is built in
[04:06] <dstaudt> neghsmoke, what version of ubuntu?
[04:07] <neghsmoke> 6.10
[04:07] <Azabe> derrik: vnc server?
[04:07] <derrik> Azabe: find 'remote desktop'
[04:07] <neghsmoke> somerville32: one second let me find what it says
[04:07] <derrik> Azabe: have it use the VNC protocol
[04:07] <dstaudt> you have to disable compositing in xorg.conf
[04:07] <rioghal> neghsmoke, That's nothing. I installed Ubuntu a few days ago, using an onboard graphics (no ati or nvidia) and glxinfo | grep render says "Direct rendering yes" here.
[04:07] <dstaudt> the ATI binary driver doesn't support it
[04:07] <chiarato> I downloaded the firefox 2.0 zip and I couldn't install it what would I have to do to run this the installer after I unzip the file?
[04:07] <Jachy> Where's BitTorrent located at? I download the one from the official site, but it said it was already on the system.
[04:07] <Azabe> i need to remote into this server from another machine using vnc client
[04:08] <neghsmoke> dstaudt already did that
[04:08] <pl_ice> dstaudt do u know whats the pin number for the BT?
[04:08] <riotkittie> chiarato: is there a file named install or something similar?
[04:08] <dougsko> Azabe: any time youre looking for a command, open up a terminal and type the first few letters of it, then hit TAB
[04:08] <derrik> Azabe: you want to remote into ubuntu right?
[04:08] <dstaudt> pl_ice, usually it's '0000' or '1234'
[04:08] <chiarato> riotkittie: no :(
[04:08] <riotkittie> FF2 isnt in the repos?
[04:08] <pl_ice> dstaudt that sits in the /etc/bluetooth/pin, correct? i've tried that, and says pin mistmach :/
[04:09] <riotkittie> brb
[04:09] <Azabe> derrik: from a sun servre which has a vnc client into ubuntu machine using vnc client
[04:09] <Azabe> dougsko: yeah i know that :)
[04:09] <dstaudt> since it's a phone, it could have a custom pin, or no pin
[04:09] <dstaudt> can you change the pin on the phone?
[04:09] <derrik> Azabe: yeah just find the 'remote desktop' on the ubuntu machine
 AndLinux is installed by default with an englsih keyboard, will I be able to modify this setting when gnome will be installed ?
[04:09] <jrib> swx: I have no idea what AndLinux is
[04:10] <noobcook`a> ,am
[04:10] <Azabe> derrik: how would i start up a vnc server on ubuntu when remoting into the console
[04:10] <noobcook> i cant belive how hard it is to apply for a smart card
 well my version is based on Edgy.. so this is a native emulator for mocrosoft OS
[04:10] <noobcook> that took 1 hr of coaxing the lady at the bank
[04:11] <derrik> Azabe: ahh, you're on the console. hmm
[04:11] <Azabe> derrik: using ssh i dont have a gui :)
[04:11] <Azabe> exactly :> hah
[04:11] <Azabe>  :)
[04:11] <chiarato> I downloaded the firefox 2.0 zip and I couldn't install it what would I have to do to run this the installer after I unzip the file?
 i should be able to do everything i can do with edgy on AndLinux
[04:11] <Azabe> thats why i installed vnc4server
[04:11] <user123> how can I record a stream session? I found a command mplayer -dumpfile <file name> -dumpstream <URL>. It seems to work but the file that I create is no good for the system... Any idea??
[04:11] <jrib> swx: you can change keyboard settings in gnome's preferences menu
[04:11] <bruenig> chiarato, you don't install it, you just run the firefox script in the extracted directory
[04:11] <neghsmoke> after using the ati binary should xorg.conf still read fglrx for Driver?
[04:11] <Kluster> How can I make ubuntu stable ?
[04:11] <DoppelGanger> kick it
[04:11] <Music_Shuffle> It..is stable
[04:11] <joshua__> anyone? damn running into issues installing ubuntu... it's installed in the past just fine using this cd, but now it's sticking on "Running "grub-install (hd0)"..."
[04:11] <Kluster> what do you mean ?
[04:12] <DoppelGanger> take your foot and kick the piece of shat
[04:12] <DoppelGanger> ubuntu is not a stable os
[04:12] <Kluster> joshua__, yeah that's what I mean, it's like a beta distro.. most of it isn't ready for the real world
[04:12] <jamesb2147> how do i use the make uninstall command?
[04:12] <DoppelGanger> its unstable debian that got screwed up
[04:12] <neghsmoke> somerville32: what should xorg.conf read for driver?
[04:12] <chiarato> bruenig: what is the extension of the file ex: *.exe ?
[04:12] <dougsko> user123: what are you trying to save, a movie or music?
 thank you... for sure ive got everything installed to run graphic emulation with the program so no problem on this side.. the only problem for me is to install the graphic interface
[04:13] <rioghal> DoppelGanger, I have never had any major problems with Ubuntu, which is why I still run it.
[04:13] <somerville32> neghsmoke, No idea. You can find out by visiting the wiki page :)
[04:13] <somerville32> !ati > neghsmoke
[04:13] <bruenig> chiarato, you download the tar.gz from getfirefox.com, then you untar it. Then you run a script in there called firefox to run the browser
[04:13] <m12> how do you uninstall a package you installed as  a SH script?
[04:13] <derrik> Azabe: looks like you'll be editing the vnc.conf
[04:13] <noobcook> "#
[04:13] <noobcook> Make sure the universe section of the Ubuntu repositories is enabled (See the AddingRepositoriesHowto), and then run:
[04:13] <noobcook> "
[04:13] <Music_Shuffle> Maybe I should rephrase that. Ubuntu is stable.
[04:13] <neghsmoke> somerville32: awe that's sweet of you to say
[04:13] <derrik> Azabe: in /etc/vnc.conf
[04:13] <DoppelGanger> rioghal: my ubuntu kept crashing from day one gave me flashbacks of xp
[04:13] <Music_Shuffle> Errors are usually user-side.
[04:13] <user123> dougsko: only audio streaming
[04:13] <neghsmoke> and what wiki page =D
[04:13] <dougsko> user123: i dont know about recording movie streams, but for music, theres a program called streamripper, which is pretty cool
[04:13] <noobcook> anyone know the command that will let u check if the universe section of repositories are enabled?
[04:13] <Kluster> Music_Shuffle, no it's not stable.  at least according to their website
[04:13] <neghsmoke> hah nm
[04:14] <chiarato> bruenig: thanks bro'
[04:14] <palomer> hello
[04:14] <palomer> I'm running a process foo
[04:14] <OzoneCo> got any good readme's about putting grub on the *nix drive, and using the boot,ini to point to*nix?
[04:14] <dougsko> user123: it records internet radio and parses each some into its own mp3
[04:14] <palomer> and I don't want foo to take up more than 10 megs
[04:14] <palomer> how do I do that?
[04:14] <Kluster> see, it says:    A package will also be prevented from entering Debian 'testing' if it has release-critical bugs according to Debian criteria, but a bug which is release-critical for Debian may not be as important for Ubuntu. (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/)
[04:14] <jinx099> noobcook: 'cat /etc/apt/sourcel.list'
[04:14] <rioghal> DoppelGanger, Did you install anything outside of the official repos or use a "script" to make installation of things easier?
[04:14] <jinx099> noobcook: 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'  sorry
[04:14] <noobcook> thats ok
[04:15] <user123> -dougsko: I know streamtuner but i can't recording
[04:15] <DoppelGanger> rioghal: no
[04:15] <Music_Shuffle> You can record with streamtuner..
[04:15] <m12> how do you uninstall a package you installed as  a SH script?
[04:15] <noobcook> what am i looking for jinx099
[04:15] <user123> -dougsko: I don't know how to! not switch on
[04:16] <jinx099> noobcook: If theres a # to start the universe lines, then its not enabled, no # and they are enabled
[04:16] <dougsko> user123: check out streamripper, it works with streamtuner, but its not the same thing
[04:16] <Kluster> rioghal, script that makes installation easier ?  but ubuntu is basically for dummies... everything is one click away..
[04:17] <netdaemon> indeed
[04:17] <neghsmoke> jesus christ
[04:17] <bruenig> allah
[04:17] <rioghal> Kluster, I'll admit that Ubuntu is the best distro I have ever tried. This distro amazed me from the first day I used it.
[04:17] <RedStamp> beryl is downloading w00t!
[04:17] <RedStamp> thanks Jorden
[04:18] <neghsmoke> i could finish my novel before i finish the steps in that wiki
[04:18] <Kluster> rioghal, it amazed me too, probably not in the same way though
[04:18] <lotacus> wow
[04:18] <noobcook> ah
[04:18] <user123> -dougsko: inthe preference of streamtuner there is Application in the last line what command i must insert to??
[04:19] <noobcook> anyway anybody know how to rebuild the windows start files threw linux?
[04:19] <varsendagger> hey Kluster don't you have somehitng you need to go compile form scrtch
[04:19] <OzoneCo> any grub specialists here?
[04:19] <rioghal> varsendagger, hehe
[04:19] <varsendagger> noobcook,  what do you mean...   start files?
[04:19] <dougsko> user123: im really not sure. dont open up streamtuner, just type in 'streamripper' , and go from there
[04:19] <lotacus> so I am following this guide to improve ubuntu startup.. basically setting runtime boot processes. in the list is nvidia kernel which is enabled on runlvl 2 3 4 5, however, I don't have any Nvidia card I have ATI.. I should turn this off no? and why was the  nvidia kernel installed in the firstplace?
[04:19] <Kluster> varsendagger, probably.. I hate using unstable ready packages
[04:19] <noobcook> when i boot my windows it goes to the splash screen then i get a blue screen error
[04:19] <noobcook> i know this is because partition magic stuffed up
[04:20] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects, it did before. this is on Kubuntu
[04:20] <netdaemon> noobcook, thats what windows does
[04:20] <lotacus> noobcook this is linux chat not windows. :P
[04:20] <varsendagger> have you googled the BSoD  error code?
[04:20] <noobcook> yeah but linux caused it and you guys are way smarter than the weirdos in ##windows =p
[04:20] <bruenig> noobcook, partition magic is bad
[04:20] <noobcook> nobody in there can ansewr my question
[04:20] <rioghal> noobcook, shouldn't that be a hint ;)
[04:20] <varsendagger> linux didn't cause it but we can probably help
[04:20] <noobcook> yeh is ther anyway i can restore the default boot settings
[04:20] <user123> -dougsko: I have to download package streamripper?
[04:21] <noobcook> ok =D
[04:21] <dougsko> lotacus: if you installed the restricted packages, the nvidia driver's in there
[04:21] <dtg> can somebody please help me?
[04:21] <dtg> :)
[04:21] <noobcook> anything but using an install cd because mines broken
[04:21] <DesertEagle> install cd! :D
[04:21] <Bal0o> oh dear.....
[04:21] <lotacus> dougsko: oh ok
[04:21] <Projekt2> noobcook: the short answer ....reinstall windows...or don't install it at all
[04:21] <dougsko> user123: yup
[04:21] <varsendagger> it isn't the boot settings....   there is an error and you need to find out exactlu what that is.
[04:21] <bruenig> noobcook, format and install is the best solution to all your windows needs
[04:21] <Jordan_U> noobcook: ##windows
[04:21] <varsendagger> is it an error like 3x000056?
[04:21] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:21] <dougsko> lotacus: but if you dont use it, you can certainly take it out of your startup scripts
[04:21] <pl_ice> noobcook , use the windows cd, hit repair, all done, its just windows lost the partiion info, , or the MBR got buggered,
[04:22] <rioghal> noobcook, if you reinstall Windows, be ready to do a bit of work getting your grub back
[04:22] <DesertEagle> speaking of grub!
[04:22] <DesertEagle> can anyone help me with graphical screen that wont show up?
[04:22] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:22] <noobcook> i know how to get grub back
[04:22] <noobcook> thats not the issue the issue is i dont have the windows cd =p
[04:22] <klees> is there a way to stop K3b from doing an md5sum check?
[04:22] <DesertEagle> pretty sure there's a checkbox somewhere
[04:22] <noobcook> pl_ice is there anyway i can do that frolm linux i have full acess to my hd
[04:22] <rioghal> noobcook, Then you're one step ahead of other Windows users ;)
[04:22] <dougsko> klees: you can hit the cancel button while its doing it
[04:22] <pl_ice> klees just hit cancel :P
[04:23] <noobcook> i got linux 4 days ago
[04:23] <noobcook> but i only managed to install it last night
[04:23] <noobcook> and i love it
[04:23] <klees> thx guys
[04:23] <dtg> anybody got an idea why it won't connect automatically to my router with DHCP, wired, on startup? I have to manually go to Network Settings and disable/activate eth0, and then it connects, it did before. this is on Kubuntu
[04:23] <corevette> off topic...but is there sometype of visualizer i can burn to advd so it just keeps playing
[04:24] <deebus> anyone know why I can't see the active selection in my grub menu?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> noobcook: I don't use Windows so sombody may correct me, but it may be possible to fix it with free DOS?
[04:24] <pl_ice> not sure noobcook , MBR got backup on disk (couple of them) u have to search how to do that, or look for rescue MBR win XP
[04:24] <malt> anyone know why i can't see nothing on my VNC server with vnc viewer?
[04:24] <malt> it works and asked for pw
[04:24] <malt> but its all black
[04:24] <deebus> sounds like my grub problem :-)
[04:25] <deebus> the current selection is highlighted in black, but the background of the kernels list is black
[04:25] <noobcook> okay cool =)
[04:25] <noobcook> maybe theres a program to do it
[04:25] <chiarato> when I write su it says enter root password witch password is this?
[04:25] <noobcook> thatd be so much better
[04:25] <noobcook> u type sudo chiarato
[04:25] <dougsko> dtg: do you have a line like this in your /etc/network/interfaces? iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:25] <DesertEagle> chiarato: the password you put when you installed
[04:26] <Jordan_U> noobcook: So you just need to restore the MBR or is it more than that?
[04:26] <chiarato> it says failure?
[04:26] <DesertEagle> errr yeah
[04:26] <rioghal> !sudo | chiarato
[04:26] <ubotu> chiarato: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:26] <DesertEagle> just type sudo <commando>
[04:26] <funlw65> I need help  to activate my Axesstel USB MODEM 3197 - is a Qoalcom CDMA 2000, something like that
[04:26] <noobcook> Jordan_U:  i feel its only MBR but anyway ill just try MBR if that doesnt fix it maybe its the tables
[04:26] <DesertEagle> chiarato: here's a cheat -> sudo bash
[04:26] <deebus> anyone know much about grub?
[04:26] <noobcook> which would b the biggest pain
[04:26] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:27] <pl_ice> any one knows whats the bluetooth pass pin for cell phones?
[04:27] <pl_ice> im getting nuts
[04:27] <DesertEagle> pl_ice it's 3 :D
[04:28] <pl_ice> nope ;/
[04:28] <DesertEagle> you sure?
[04:28] <ciscosurfer> hello everyone!
[04:28] <DesertEagle> hello
[04:28] <noobcook> er am i meant to be installing  libc6-dev libstdc++6-4.1-dev linux-libc-dev  ?
[04:28] <dougsko> hi, ciscosurfer
[04:28] <burepe> selah thanks but I don't know which one of those solutions is for my problem
[04:28] <Projekt2> hi ciscosurfer:
[04:29] <DesertEagle> or how about my problem: grub wont show the pretty screen i setup
[04:29] <pl_ice> DesertEagle just tried, didn't work :/ not sure why,
[04:29] <DesertEagle> pl_ice i was kidding btw :P
[04:29] <DesertEagle> i have no clue
[04:29] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:29] <malt> Also i was installing VNC and got to messing with X, and now my res is stuck at 600 res, how can i fix this?
[04:29] <funlw65>  I need help  to activate my Axesstel USB MODEM 3197 - is a Qualcom CDMA 2000, something like that
[04:29] <pl_ice> DesertEagle i know u were kidding bout #3 but i'm still getting nuts :D
[04:29] <root____> I need help I installed ubuntu it is broken I lost my documents help me
[04:29] <ghost> i just install a Widescreen, screen, and now my ubuntu wont boot (xorg.conf error)  what could i do ?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> root____: Broken How?
[04:29] <pl_ice> i can get comms to the cell but don't know the pin, bloody rubish
[04:30] <facugaich> ghost: use recovery mode?
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <netdaemon> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:30] <ghost> facugaich to do what ?  how ?
[04:30] <user123> dougsko: Sorry but where is my file that i "probably" create with streamripper?
[04:30] <ciscosurfer> ghost: can you get to a terminal?   (ALT-F1 thru ALT-F6)
[04:30] <root____> Jordan_U: it is broken I had everything on my computer it is gone
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: or do Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:30] <deebus> anyone?
[04:30] <ghost> ciscosurfer yeas
 currently installing gnome-desktop and related packages, is the next step to make that gdm is installed?
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: no!
[04:30] <root____> I had all my videos, the one my mom wasn't supposed to see it's gone
[04:30] <jrib> swx: ubuntu-desktop should install gdm
[04:30] <pl_ice> :D
[04:30] <DesertEagle> malt: i mean Ctrl+Alt Plus sign
[04:30] <DesertEagle> that
[04:30] <Jordan_U> root____: Broken in what way, won't boot, makes funny noises?
[04:31] <swx> thx
[04:31] <ciscosurfer> ghost: can you post the output of::  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf    >> to the pastebin?
[04:31] <facugaich> ghost: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[04:31] <dougsko> ghost: this is usually due to a syntax error in xorg.conf. googling around for working examples would probly be your best bet
[04:31] <ciscosurfer> !pastebin
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:31] <root____> Jordan_U: it is not working it's not loading windows anymore
[04:31] <ghost> ciscosurfer i'm in terminal now, irssi ..
[04:31] <funlw65>  I need help  to activate my Axesstel USB MODEM 3197 - is a Qoalcom CDMA 2000, something like that
[04:31] <root____> it looks weird
[04:31] <black_abaddon> i have a problem with my head, it is big.help
[04:31] <dougsko> user123: you mean, like, where does it save its files?
[04:31] <noobcook> dougsko: whats the command to edit xorg.conf?
[04:32] <dougsko> noobcook: you can use lots of different editors, but nano is probly the easiest
[04:32] <Jordan_U> root____: Did you make sure to choose to resize the windows partition instead of installing over it?
[04:32] <root____> one of my friends said ubuntu was for hackers and I would be elite to use it but it removed windows
[04:32] <noobcook> ok
[04:32] <Projekt2> noobcook: try nano
[04:32] <root____> he lied
[04:32] <varsendagger> noobcook, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   is a gui
[04:32] <rioghal> noobcook, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:32] <dougsko> noobcook: when you get bored someday, run 'vimtutor
[04:32] <noobcook> ok
[04:32] <DesertEagle> root____ elite?
[04:32] <user123> dougsko: yes sorry my little english
[04:32] <Astrozombie> Hello friends, can some one Help me with SoftAp?
[04:33] <varsendagger> vim tutor is awesome
[04:33] <PwnDaWorld> DesertEagle: that's what he said.. he said I would be better with it
[04:33] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: you can also try vim if you're in a terminal....or gedit if you want a GUI in Gnome....remember to add 'sudo' (no quotes) before to edit files with root permissions
[04:33] <DesertEagle> root____ you wouldn't be chatting on IRC logged in as root now would you?
[04:33] <dougsko> noobcook: oops...'vimtutor'. learning to use the vim editor is something you thank yourself for doing
[04:33] <varsendagger> rioghal, ha i beat you
[04:33] <noobcook> ok
[04:33] <Astrozombie> anyone have experience with modded wifi drivers
[04:33] <noobcook> thanks
[04:33] <DesertEagle> PwnDaWorld: doubt anyone's better because they use Ubuntu
[04:33] <varsendagger> noobcook, it is so easy and quick
[04:33] <PwnDaWorld> DesertEagle: what do you mean, this is my computer
[04:34] <varsendagger> DesertEagle, i am better because i use ubuntu
[04:34] <RedStamp> when i type in beryl my system freezes
[04:34] <RedStamp> Stamp> display: :0.0  screen: 0
 OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x TCL
 OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)
[04:34] <acracker> yeah ubuntu is cool
[04:34] <noobcook> so sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <noobcook> therewe go
[04:34] <DesertEagle> pfft, then i'm better than y'all cuz i dual boot
[04:34] <noobcook> hmm
[04:34] <DesertEagle> :D
[04:34] <noobcook> why is this file empty?
[04:34] <acracker> haha im using vmware
[04:34] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: got that problem taken care of, btw (from yesterday)
[04:34] <dougsko> noobcook: whatd you type?
[04:34] <RedStamp> Can anyone help?
[04:34] <rioghal> noobcook, not a good idea to use sudo with a GUI app, you should use gksu or gksudo with GUI apps, sudo is for CLI apps.
[04:34] <dstaudt> noobcook: capital X in 'X11'
[04:34] <acracker> im running win xp with shell of ubuntu running inside it
 try native emulation with andlinux
[04:35] <noobcook> ah ok ty
[04:35] <dougsko> noobcook: type this -> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:35] <varsendagger> ciscosurfer, cool...    i remember talking to you ...   what was the problem?
[04:35] <PwnDaWorld> what should I use to remove this ubuntu thing ?
[04:35] <acracker> yeah i've done that before
[04:35] <OzoneCo> i'm running ubuntu with XP in the vmplayer
[04:35] <PwnDaWorld> is there a better linux out there for me to use ?
[04:35] <rioghal> noobcook, More info about that: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[04:35] <Jordan_U> RedStamp: What's up?
[04:35] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: issue with mss2 (windows media screen 2)
[04:35] <acracker> but its easier to install and  delete os'es that way
[04:35] <varsendagger> DesertEagle, no...   you should emulate
[04:35] <noobcook> hmm
[04:35] <dougsko> PwnDaWorld: no, theyre all really simliar anyway
[04:35] <noobcook> dousko that file is empty also
[04:35] <noobcook> :S
[04:35] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, sure there is, but it's better for beginners to start with an easy idiot proof distro
[04:35] <acracker> lol ozoneco thats the opposite of me
[04:35] <varsendagger> ahhh yeah     how did you fix it?
 what about the os speed
[04:35] <RedStamp> I followed the page...when I type beryl in it freezes the screen
[04:35] <DesertEagle> pfft y'all suck, i'm gonna be hired next week to change a buncho thin-clients to server side linux
[04:35] <DesertEagle> beat THAT! :D
[04:35] <PwnDaWorld> Kluster:Mine isn't working
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: using mplayer (to mess with command line stuff and options) and got it to work
 well it is much slower and all
[04:36] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, ok maybe not idiot proof then
[04:36] <acracker> but for other uses, i like it
[04:36] <varsendagger> nice mplayer is amazing
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> varsendagger: yippee!
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> indeed!
[04:36] <popflop> Hey all.
 your right it is easy to use and flexible
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> ever taken a look at the man pages for it??
[04:36] <PwnDaWorld> Kluster: do you run ubuntu ?
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> man mplayer     >>    wow!
[04:36] <dougsko> noobcook: its empty!? hmm...im not sure whats up with that
[04:36] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, of course not, but a dumb friend of mine is..
[04:36] <noobcook> is this bad?
[04:36] <noobcook> :S
[04:37] <varsendagger> Kluster, uses all of them...   his fav is gentoo
[04:37] <OzoneCo> acracker: i saw that....got a vm server 2000 as well....trying to build a virtual lan
[04:37] <acracker> nice
[04:37] <noobcook> is it safe to save values in it?
[04:37] <acracker> what are you going to use it for?
[04:37] <PwnDaWorld> is gentoo really better ?
[04:37] <noobcook> eg Section "Extensions"
[04:37] <noobcook>         Option  "Composite" "Disable"
[04:37] <noobcook> EndSection
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, my dvd's are running now, but I don't know how to choose which application to open them with.
[04:37] <dstaudt> noobcook: that looks right
[04:37] <RedStamp> it says something about Nvideo absent
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> When I right-click on the DVD icon, it just shows "open," as if it were just a folder.
[04:37] <RedStamp> Nvidia*
[04:37] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, yeah, but stick to this one first.. then when you get better leave for a better distro.. easy switch is debian
[04:37] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I make it play with mPlayer?
[04:38] <acracker> hey how do i pm someone so that my name lights up on their screen?
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> I wanna change the language options and stuff.
[04:38] <PwnDaWorld> Kluster: why should I use this one first then if it's worst
[04:38] <DesertEagle> pfft if y'all aint running vmware in raw disk mode, y'all NOTHING
[04:38] <DesertEagle> :P
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Right now, they play with Totem, and that's no good.
 I tested edgy a couple of days in it and realize that the most fastest way to run it was in native
[04:38] <dougsko> PwnDaWorld: use gentoo if you want to spend all day compiling crap, use anything else if you actually want to get work done :)
[04:38] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, you got a point there, but never mind
[04:38] <mvfeinstein> can anyone tell me where the file with the gnome keymap is store?
[04:38] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: vlc is generally better than mplayer for interacting with DVDs (in my opinion)
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Erm.  Can we refrain from bashing the distro this channel is supposed to support?
[04:38] <DesertEagle> ubuntu rocks! :D
[04:38] <ciscosurfer> mplayer rocks!
[04:38] <Spaghetti_Knife> Falstius: How do I open the DVD with vlc if it always autoruns with Totem?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> acracker: Just put their nick in your comment like I just did with you ( see the acracker: at the beginning )
[04:38] <ciscosurfer> vlc rocks, too!  haha
[04:39] <effie_jayx> PwnDaWorld,  and ask the guys over at #gentoo ... maybe they know
[04:39] <rioghal> acracker, First of all, you might wanna register or ID your nick so the person you PM will see it if they are ID's.
[04:39] <noobcook> dstaudt im going to update my graphics card driver, is there a failsafe command i can use incase the driver doesnt work so i can reset to what im using now?
[04:39] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: you can change that easily, one second and I'll tell you how.
[04:39] <|thunder> how do I play a .pd file? I think its a video
[04:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> Okay.
[04:39] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks/.
[04:39] <bronson> I "ejected" my hard drive using Nautilus.
[04:39] <acracker> ahh thanks
[04:39] <bronson> Is there any way to remount it without rebooting?
[04:39] <dstaudt> noobcook, you can copy xorg.conf to a backup file 'maybe xorg.conf_bak'
[04:39] <DesertEagle> bronson: yup
[04:39] <Jordan_U> bronson: Yes
[04:39] <dstaudt> then if you restart and X fails, you can copy it back
[04:39] <Jordan_U> !mount | bronson
[04:39] <ubotu> bronson: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:40] <noobcook> nah wont matter i can manualy remove the entries
[04:40] <bronson> !DiskMounter
[04:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:40] <DesertEagle> bronson: if it's in the /etc/fstab then just type "mount /media/whateverthehell"
[04:40] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: go to system->preferences->removable drives and media preferences->multimedia tab and then change totem to vlc.  Oh, and install vlc (sudo apt-get install vlc)
[04:40] <noobcook> brb im gona try
[04:40] <varsendagger> PwnDaWorld, you need to get the hang of linux in an easy to use form...   where it is able to still do what you want to do......     it is kinda easy to mess things up if you do things wrong.....    and you need to learn how things work if you do want to use gentoo.
[04:40] <deebus> can anyone help me with my grub question?
[04:40] <noobcook> wish me luck
[04:40] <deebus> good luck
[04:40] <deebus> we're all counting on you
[04:40] <ciscosurfer> deebus: go ahead...
[04:40] <DesertEagle> i have faith in you brother!
[04:40] <Jordan_U> deebus: What's the question again?
[04:41] <bronson> DesertEagle: it isn't in fstab.  It's external.
[04:41] <varsendagger> Kluster, am i right?
[04:41] <popflop> Hey guys I'm new to linux. I just finished installing Edgy and I ahve a question. I think my PC Card slot isn't working. My wireless card's lights are not on or anything. I tried using ndiswrapper but when I do "ndiswrapper -l" it says the driver is invalid and I think it's cause my pcmcia slot isn't working. any ideas?
[04:41] <noobcook> oh btw whats the good mp3 player for linux
[04:41] <noobcook> xxm or mmx or something
[04:41] <mytankisfight> In order to get my wireless card working i need to  install the 'build-essentials' and 'kernel headers' packages from the apt repositories, but how can i do them if i an't get on the internet !!
[04:41] <memic> audacious
[04:41] <acracker> yeah when i had ubuntu installed in a dual boot with windows I got xgl and beryl working, somewhat
[04:41] <AmaroqWolf> XMMS
[04:41] <ciscosurfer> xmms
[04:41] <memic> xmms=old crap ;)
[04:41] <Falstius> mytankisfight: they are on the CD ...
[04:41] <dougsko> noobcook: amarok is pretty cool too
[04:41] <acracker> haha, it sometimes worked
[04:41] <ciscosurfer> exaile > much better!
[04:42] <DesertEagle> memic hey hey hey :( i'm not old
[04:42] <AmaroqWolf> XMMS is the only one that plays mp3's for me.
[04:42] <mytankisfight> ^^
[04:42] <Wicho> hello hello
[04:42] <noobcook> whats the best?
[04:42] <dstaudt> mytankisfight, those packages are found on the install CD
[04:42] <mytankisfight> thankyou very much
[04:42] <dougsko> noobcook: try 'em all out and decide for yourself. theyre only an apt-get away :)
[04:43] <DesertEagle> memic it's reliable :)
[04:43] <noobcook> mm ok
[04:43] <noobcook> wait before i try this
[04:43] <DesertEagle> noobcook: you like winamp?
[04:43] <mytankisfight> ok i don't know much about linux, can u give me a brief run down of installing these of cd please :)
[04:43] <noobcook> sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:43] <dstaudt> noobcook, XMMS is a good winamp equivalent, listen and amorak are two good library/browser types
[04:43] <memic> DesertEagle no it isnt
[04:43] <memic> is full of bugs
[04:43] <TTT_Travis> I need to reconfigure php5 with --enable-simplexml on ubuntu how do I do this?
[04:43] <DesertEagle> nuh uh!
[04:43] <noobcook> should restricted modules look like this
[04:43] <noobcook> DISABLED_MODULES=""
[04:43] <noobcook> DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx"
[04:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> 5v335, Falstius.
[04:43] <dstaudt> noobcook, songbird looks very very cool, but is too new and unstable for now
[04:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thank you!
[04:43] <popflop> Umm, how can I tell if my computer is seeing the wireless card I have in my PC Card slot?
[04:43] <noobcook> unstable works for me
[04:43] <DesertEagle> memic: when have you had problems with it?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Is there a way to play Quicktime Movies that reference external files ( I have already looked at the restricted formats wiki and tried VLC xine and mplayer )
[04:44] <AmaroqWolf> dstaudt, only XMMS works for me when it comes to playing mp3's. I've tried installing everything I could think of.
[04:44] <PwnDaWorld> you're right, gentoo people told me it was a better distro
[04:44] <Music_Shuffle> .......lol.
[04:44] <memic> DesertEagle yes
[04:44] <acracker> but gentoo is extremly hard to install and configure, so i've heard
[04:44] <deebus> sorry guys...helping someone else out
[04:44] <memic> DesertEagle its not developt for years?
[04:44] <Falstius> Spaghetti_Knife: one thing about VLC is it doesn't turn on deinterlace with some DVDs made from TV shows, but you can turn it on from the video menu easily.
[04:44] <rioghal> xmms is cool.. and there's a ton of skins: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=130
[04:44] <netdaemon> acracker, complete bs if you know how to read
[04:44] <deebus> the currently highlighted selection on my grub menu is highlighted in black.  so now I can't actually *see* the currently highlighted selection :-P
[04:44] <PwnDaWorld> another guy in another channel told me debian was more stable than ubuntu, is it true ?
[04:44] <dstaudt> AmaroqWolf, i've tried many different players with mp3 working, so it's possible
[04:44] <acracker> netdaemon, what do you mean?
[04:44] <memic> audacious is a xmms recode
[04:44] <DesertEagle> memic: i've never had issues with it.... that's odd
[04:45] <memic> you can even use the skins
[04:45] <PwnDaWorld> he told me ubuntu was based off the debian unstable version.. so it couldn't be as stable
[04:45] <netdaemon> acracker, just like any linux distro you have to research
[04:45] <dstaudt> i tend to use 'unsupported scripts' to set up all my non-free stuff though, so i can't advise much
[04:45] <bronson> Jordan_U, DesertEagle: ubotu claims that it was possible under Dapper.  Under Edgy, System -> Administration -> Disks is gone and there's no replacement.
[04:45] <Crescendo_> Why is sound bad quality when PCM volume is all the way up?  I have to turn it most of the way down to get good loud sound from my speakers
[04:45] <bronson> Looks like it's impossible.
[04:45] <Falstius> PwnDaWorld: do you want to use 5 year old software?
[04:45] <rioghal> PwnDaWorld, if Ubuntu works for your, does it really matter who's distro is more stable?
[04:45] <elyon225> Are there any other distributions that you guys would suggest for new Linux users?
[04:45] <bronson> I'm not going to put a removable HD in my fstab.
[04:45] <Music_Shuffle> PwnDaWorld, News flash: others will tell you their distro is best.  Make your own mind up.
[04:45] <PwnDaWorld> Falstius: what do you mean ?
[04:45] <OzoneCo> i need to put grub back on MBR, easiest way?
[04:45] <memic> DesertEagle looks the same but is better
[04:45] <acracker> netdaemon, yeah, but how much research compared to other distros?
[04:45] <netdaemon> not to mention there new installer makes it easy to install
[04:45] <DesertEagle> elyon225 mandrake
[04:45] <AmaroqWolf> dstaudt, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've installed every package under the sun, that I know of anyway. lol. I can't play avi's either. They play, but there's sound and no video.
[04:45] <N6REJ> in the server version of UB 6.10 if you forget to tell it LAMP does it still install LAMP?
[04:45] <DesertEagle> memic which one?
[04:45] <netdaemon> s/there/their
[04:46] <dougsko> elyon225: kanotix was my first distro, but its debian based too, so its really not much different from ubuntu
[04:46] <DesertEagle> bronson: why not?
[04:46] <netdaemon> acracker, like i said, if you can read, you can install gentoo
[04:46] <elyon225> dougsko: Is it more stable than Ubuntu, though?
[04:46] <memic> DesertEagle audacious
[04:46] <Falstius> PwnDaWorld: the reason debian stable is to stable is because it is tested for a very very long time before it gets distributed.  So the software is always very out of date (by definition).
[04:46] <netdaemon> just know your hardware
[04:46] <DesertEagle> bronson: you can put it there through UUID
[04:46] <jessid> is it possible to write some ntfs file system from Ubuntu?
[04:46] <elyon225> dougsko: I have yet to go through one session of Ubuntu where something doesn't crash...
[04:46] <netdaemon> for when you compile a kernel
[04:46] <DesertEagle> jessid: yes
[04:46] <dougsko> elyon225: sure its stable
[04:46] <acracker> netdaemon, where can I get a guide for installing gentoo?
[04:46] <DesertEagle> jessid: look up ntfs-3g
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Crescendo It is probably clipping, when everything is above the max volume everything plays at the same max volume, which makes things sound horribly distorted
[04:46] <DesertEagle> !ntfs-3g
[04:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:47] <netdaemon> acracker, the gentoo handbook of course
[04:47] <dougsko> elyon225: i dont know why youd have so many crashes though in ubuntu. are you running feisty or something?
[04:47] <OzoneCo> elyon225: hardware issues?
[04:47] <netdaemon> its right on there site
[04:47] <malt> I did a fresh ubuntu install earler, and it had gnome and installed, and everything working fine a nice 1024 res to. Then i got to messing with VNC, and it totally messed my RES up to 600 x, and it will not let me change it to 1024, and this is a old laptop. I don't even know half the specs to it, and that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command asks why to much hardware questions that i don't know. So will ubuntu not auto detect my specs now, like
[04:47] <DesertEagle> jessid: i use it without problems so far
[04:47] <ciscosurfer> OzoneCo: here's a good link to check out:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29
[04:47] <elyon225> dougsko: No.  I'm running Edgy
[04:47] <AmaroqWolf> acracker, you should probablyl go into a gentoo IRC room rather than an ubuntu one. lol.
[04:47] <acracker> netdaemon, huh, I've never heard of it before, excuse my ignorance though because im a noob
[04:47] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[04:47] <elyon225> OzoneCo: I have no idea what's causing these crashes.
[04:47] <acracker> netdaemon, true lol
[04:47] <OzoneCo> ciscosurfer: thnx
[04:47] <popflop> Umm, how can I tell if my computer is seeing the wireless card I have in my PC Card slot?
[04:47] <netdaemon> acracker, just a moment...
[04:47] <ciscosurfer> OzoneCo: sure
[04:47] <Jordan_U> popflop: lspci
[04:47] <elyon225> OzoneCo: They're very random (firefox, amarok, amule).  But the entire system crashes almost everytime I log out.
[04:47] <popflop> thx Jordan
[04:47] <jessid> DesertEagle thanks I am looking for ntfs-3g
[04:48] <noobcook> whts the com to download songbird on apt get
[04:48] <netdaemon> acracker, pm
[04:48] <PwnDaWorld> so if debian is superior than ubuntu, why use ubutu.. I don't get it.  it all eludes me.  linux people are weird
[04:48] <acracker> netdaemon, yeah?
[04:48] <N6REJ> elyon225: check your hardware against the compatibility list.  I've never had that happen to me.
[04:48] <dstaudt> noobcook, it's not in the ubuntu repositories, you'll have to download and install it manually
[04:48] <Projekt2> popflop: what kind of wireless card are you running?
[04:48] <dougsko> elyon225: well dont think its like a "core" ubuntu problem. its most likely just buggy software thats running on top. ive gone months without a crash or reboot
[04:48] <popflop> Sweet, it is showing up.
[04:48] <rioghal> noobcook, songbird isn't in the repos
[04:48] <popflop> MotorolaWN825g
[04:48] <AmaroqWolf> PwnDaWorld, ubuntu was built off of debian.
[04:48] <Falstius> PwnDaWorld: Ubuntu is a compromise between stability and new software.
[04:48] <Jordan_U> PwnDaWorld: No distro is superior at everything, they all have their place
[04:48] <netdaemon> did you get the pm?
[04:49] <elyon225> dougsko: That's what everyone keeps saying... but I've had to reinstall Ubuntu twice now and it hasn't been stable yet.
[04:49] <noobcook> ok
[04:49] <acracker> netdaemon, yeah thanks
[04:49] <dstaudt> netdaemon, PMs are disabled in this channel for most people
[04:49] <Kluster> PwnDaWorld, ubuntu IS (kinda) debian.. it's a fork of debian sid (unstable)
[04:49] <popflop> Everything I've read says I have to use ndiswrapper
[04:49] <OzoneCo> elyon225: not until loggin out? system stable rest of the time?
[04:49] <dstaudt> hmm...i thought?
[04:49] <AmaroqWolf> PwnDaWorld, ubuntu is to debian as c++ is to c. lol
[04:49] <noobcook> oh and whats the command to enable the universe section of repositories?
[04:49] <netdaemon> dstaudt, pms are disabled for those who arn't identified ;)
[04:49] <Kluster> Amallya, not really, c++ is superior
[04:49] <dstaudt> gotcha :)
[04:49] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/songbird
[04:49] <Falstius> AmaroqWolf: so either you know little about Debian or C++? ;)
[04:49] <AmaroqWolf> xD
[04:49] <elyon225> OzoneCo: The system itself?  I guess so... but I get software crashes constantly. (I think Synaptic is the only app I've used that hasn't crashed at least once)
[04:49] <hakrzcode> Kluster: do not feed the troll.
[04:49] <AmaroqWolf> I know little about c or c++
[04:50] <popflop> I installed it with the driver from my cd but it says "invalid driver!" when I do ndiswrapper -l
[04:50] <Kluster> hakrzcode, c++ is a lot different from c
[04:50] <AmaroqWolf> and I don't know anything about debian either. lol
[04:50] <dougsko> elyon225: just like what Falstius said, "Ubuntu is a compromise between stability and new software." . I run dapper and use dont use any backports, for the most part, i dont have the highest version numbers of programs out there, but the upside is that they dont crash very much
[04:50] <AmaroqWolf> I was just guessing ubuntu is an upgrade of sorts
[04:50] <Falstius> does anyone else find that flash is crashing firefox a lot recently?
[04:50] <dougsko> Falstius: yeah but it always has :/
[04:51] <hakrzcode> kluster: I meant the one that is trying to start a flame, about ubuntu.
[04:51] <N6REJ> guys, I know this is probably a dumb Q but its been a while since I've done a Ubuntu install.  I'm installing the server distro and forgot to type LAMP at start.  Will it still do the LAMP software or do I need to do it manually now?
[04:51] <acracker> are there any free programs that would let me run windows games on ubuntu?
[04:51] <toulouse> i heard debian got it's name from the guy who made it: his name was ian, and his girlfriend's name was debra, so it became "deb" "ian" -->debian
[04:51] <Falstius> dougsko: I swear it happens more often now.  Study fricking flash.
[04:51] <dougsko> Falstius: does it just disapear sometimes when you click a link or something?
[04:51] <dstaudt> !wine | acracker
[04:51] <ubotu> acracker: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:51] <Kluster> There is a ubuntu server distro ?
[04:51] <Falstius> er stupid.
[04:51] <Bruco16> falstius: i used epiphany since
[04:51] <AmaroqWolf> xD I heard that too
[04:51] <AmaroqWolf> but I think it was his wife, not his gf.
[04:51] <toulouse> oh
[04:51] <toulouse> wtver
[04:51] <dougsko> Kluster: yeah, its just ubuntu w/o a desktop package
[04:51] <toulouse> same idea :)
[04:51] <dougsko> netdaemon: why not?
[04:51] <Kluster> dougsko, lmao
[04:52] <Falstius> dougsko: no, it freezes and I have to kill it.  I figured out why it was crashing without messages earlier (stored passwords on 1 site)
[04:52] <user123> for the community to record streaming radio type in the terminal mplayer -dumpfile <file name.wav> -dumpstream <URL>. enjoy! Bye!
[04:52] <dougsko> Falstius: ah
[04:52] <acracker> dstaudt, I know that runs some windows programs, but will it run a high end game like, Oblivion?
[04:52] <noobcook>  whats the command to enable the universe section of repositories?
[04:52] <elyon225> dougsko: Sounds bad to say this, but Windows has always been infinitely more stable for me than Linux... and I really want to get it worked out so I don't need to go back the MS route.
[04:52] <netdaemon> dougsko, i feel ubuntu is reserved for handing to introducing people to the world of linux, not for hard work
[04:52] <rioghal> !universe | noobcook
[04:52] <ubotu> noobcook: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:52] <Falstius> Bruco16: does it actually handle flash better?
[04:52] <toulouse> how do i do an action message like netdaemon did?
[04:52] <N6REJ> noobcook, look in synaptic and you'll see an option to enable repositories.
[04:52] <toulouse> where it's like * somehting somethign
[04:52] <noobcook> ok
[04:52] <ciscosurfer> noobcook: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[04:52] <dstaudt> acracker, it's what there is for free...there are for-sale products: cedega and crossover office, that offer some more capabilities, i.e. better directx support
[04:52] <dougsko> netdaemon: meh, thats just the crowd it attracts, that doesnt really reflect on what it can or cant do
[04:53] <netdaemon> toulouse, /query user
[04:53] <Bruco16> falstius: i think, at least, the browser is not crashing
[04:53] <conver2> does ubuntu recognize usb drives? like connecting a digicam??
[04:53] <acracker> dstaudt, ahh I see, thanks
[04:53] <N6REJ> grrrrrrrrrrrrr.... failed install
[04:53] <dougsko> netdaemon: you could be on ubuntu server edition, and if i told you it was debian, youd never know the difference
[04:53] <riotkittie> conver2: it picks mine up
[04:53] <Bruco16> falstius: epiphany take well java too
[04:53] <netdaemon> dougsko, the release cycle is a bit insane for server use, you'd be doing upgrades every 6 months
[04:53] <elyon225> conver2: Sometimes ;)
[04:53] <elyon225> conver2: It will for me one day, but not the next.
[04:53] <dougsko> netdaemon: oh yeah, the release cycle is crazy, thank god for the LTS versions
[04:54] <netdaemon> dougsko, i'd no
[04:54] <toulouse> netdaemon: that didnt work-- i mean when you said "*netdaemon would not use ubuntu server"
[04:54] <sidny4> yay for dapper
[04:54] <netdaemon> because su would be gone, and thats my prefered method
[04:54] <toulouse> like riotkittie just did
[04:54] <Kluster> netdaemon, but I wouldn't go as far as use it for server use for this reason
[04:54] <toulouse> riotkittie: how do you do that message thing" riotkittie hugs dapper"
[04:55] <riotkittie> toulouse: /me
[04:55] <toulouse> oh
[04:55] <toulouse> ok
[04:55] <toulouse> thx
[04:55] <elyon225> SO Mandrake would be a good distro to try switching to?
[04:55] <dstaudt> toulouse, '/me hugs dapper'
[04:55] <dstaudt> lol
[04:55] <varsendagger> elyon225, what is mandrake?
[04:55] <Kluster> elyon225, as much as I sometimes dislike ubuntu, NO mandrake is a step backwards :)
[04:55] <riotkittie> elyon225: what do you mean by 'good' ... ? elaborate
[04:55] <KezK> I think Mandrake you need to register to get apps
[04:55] <DesertEagle> mandrake is now mandriva btw
[04:55] <DesertEagle> no?
[04:55] <netdaemon> heh
[04:55] <sidny4> varsendagger: mandriva
[04:55] <acracker> isnt it called mandriva now?
[04:55] <riotkittie> mandrake -> mandriva
[04:55] <DesertEagle> ok FINE i'm old :(
[04:55] <elyon225> riotkittie: Something that doesn't crash on me every day, several times a day...
[04:56] <KezK> oh yeah Mandriva
[04:56] <KezK> I installed it last night
[04:56] <dougsko> elyon225: you might like that. it uses RPMs for its package system, which is a little different. but they have live cd's for everything now, so its easy to try
[04:56] <toulouse> elyon225: check out dreamlinux, i like the mac-like interface of xcfe
[04:56] <Bruco16> i think mandriva is selling boxes
[04:56] <Bruco16> and trial version (NOT sure)
[04:56] <KezK> Actually there is a liveCD so you can testdrive it
[04:56] <Bruco16> yeah
[04:56] <riotkittie> walmart.com used to sell mandrake boxes
[04:56] <dougsko> thats pretty awesome
[04:56] <popflop> Anyone have a second to help me with a wireless question real quick?
[04:56] <toulouse> elyon225: i only test drove dreamlinux, but im going to install it soonn
[04:56] <DesertEagle> that's how i started with linux
[04:56] <elyon225> dougsko: Yeah, if Gnome Baker doesn't crash on me while trying to burn the live cd ;)
[04:57] <DesertEagle> one of those boxes
[04:57] <dougsko> elyon225: hehe
[04:57] <riotkittie> what - from walmart.com?
[04:57] <DesertEagle> yep
[04:57] <ciscosurfer> popflop: shoot...
[04:57] <DesertEagle> no, actual store
[04:57] <noobcook> is this right?
[04:57] <noobcook> bash ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg ubuntu/edgy
[04:57] <dougsko> dell sells "red flag linux" loaded boxes to china
[04:57] <rioghal> Mandriva is free. You pay for the PowerPack and PowerPack+ versions and, yes, they do (or were at one time) selling Mandriva preloaded computers.
[04:57] <dstaudt> check out http://distrowatch.com for descriptions, reviews, popularity rankings, etc. of various unix-like distros
[04:57] <riotkittie> DesertEagle: i was so tempted to get one of those! but i never did
[04:57] <DesertEagle> riotkittie got it back in version 6
[04:57] <DesertEagle> :P
[04:58] <elyon225> The problem is, there's no way to preserve all my settings when installing a different distro, right?
[04:58] <DesertEagle> nope
[04:58] <elyon225> grr
[04:58] <DesertEagle> everything's GONE
[04:58] <riotkittie> IIRC, they were pretty decent machines... in terms of specs and price
[04:58] <DesertEagle> LOST
[04:58] <DesertEagle> MUAAHAHHAHAHA
[04:58] <netdaemon> elyon225, keep a separate /home partiition
[04:58] <Bruco16> my Dell machine is tighly tight; i din't like it... i can't even put a second HDrive in it
[04:58] <dstaudt> elyon225, i've heard you can keep a partition separate for your /home
[04:58] <rioghal> elyon225, You can backup all the files in your $HOME.
[04:58] <DesertEagle> riotkittie: oh wait, you mean a PC?
[04:58] <dougsko> elyon225: you can save your settings to a usb drive or something and then load them again later
[04:58] <riotkittie> yeah, DesertEagle.
[04:58] <DesertEagle> damn... i was thinking a boxed store bought CD distro
[04:58] <DesertEagle> :P
[04:58] <netdaemon> separate home partition easier
[04:59] <elyon225> dougsko: And that would just be saving the /home directory?  All my users and such will be saved?
[04:59] <Kluster> separate home partition safer
[04:59] <riotkittie> hehehehe. no. actual computers. think they were desktops only. for about $200.
[04:59] <netdaemon> elyon225, you have to create the users again
[04:59] <noobcook> hmm its not working
[04:59] <pibarnas> my gnome-session is restarting by itself, without I am doing anything... any ideas about that sort of thing?
[04:59] <elyon225> Yeah, a separate /home partition would have been nice to know about BEFORE installing ;)
[04:59] <Crescendo_> Why is sound bad quality when PCM volume is all the way up?  I have to turn it most of the way down to get good loud sound from my speakers
[04:59] <netdaemon> just make sure its not formated :P
[04:59] <dougsko> elyon225: well it depends, i think knoppix and the like save other things, not your whole home dir
[04:59] <dstaudt> Crescendo, i think i have the same problem
[05:00] <elyon225> lol maybe I should just head back to windows...
[05:00] <riotkittie> i downloaded mandrake way back when. i think it was v7. never installed it. then i got mandriva discs mailed to me somehow.
[05:00] <pibarnas> my gnome-session is restarting by itself, without I am doing anything... any ideas about that sort of thing?
[05:00] <dougsko> elyon225: whats wrong with ubuntu?! you just got here :)
[05:00] <theflyingfool_> why is my resolution really messed up, i have it set up properly in xorg.conf
[05:00] <theflyingfool_> its looks like a fish eye
[05:00] <dstaudt> elyon225, i played with ubuntu under vmware on windows for a long time...best of both worlds
[05:00] <elyon225> dougsko: No, I've been using Ubuntu for 3 or 4 weeks now... and have had a TON of problems with it.
[05:00] <Kluster> pibarnas, check the log more info would be useful
[05:01] <dougsko> elyon225: im sorry to hear that :/
[05:01] <elyon225> dougsko: The main one that sticks out right now is the crashing when logging out.  And no one in here has seemed to know why.
[05:01] <dstaudt> elyon225, sounds like maybe your hardware doesn't like linux...bad ram maybe
[05:01] <Bruco16> elyon225: at least now you can fix them!
[05:01] <jessid> !beryl
[05:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:01] <DesertEagle> how do i make a link to a mounted partition all pretty like the stock ones on the desktop?
[05:01] <toulouse> i just have audio /video problems
[05:01] <KezK> eylon, if you have a lot of graphics problems, I would check out dapper drake version
[05:01] <DesertEagle> just change the icon?
[05:02] <dougsko> elyon225: yeah dapper's a little older, but it seems to be a lot more stable
[05:02] <elyon225> KezK: I don't really have any graphics problems.  My ATI card has been working fine (3D and all)
[05:02] <riotkittie> dapper's been good to me.
[05:02] <elyon225> dougsko: Dapper is 6.06?
[05:02] <KezK> OH OK thats good to hear eylon
[05:02] <dougsko> elyon225: yep
[05:02] <elyon225> dougsko: Ha.  I threw that disc away when I burned Edgy
[05:02] <dougsko> elyon225: haha
[05:02] <sexshun> can someone explain to me what (network and broadcast) do in the etc/interface config file
[05:02] <OzoneCo> i just blew all the mess away...gonna reinstall
[05:02] <elyon225> Figured it was just an update that would be recommended.
[05:02] <Bruco16> what happens when you buy a graph card, insert it and start the machine?
[05:02] <riotkittie> ubuntu's not the distro i'd have chosen if i'd  had discs on hand back then, but eh.
[05:03] <Kluster> sexshun, network is the network mask and broadcast is the broadcast address
[05:03] <dougsko> OzoneCo: man interfaces
[05:03] <conver2> if I install amd64 version.  are all apps in that cd 64bit?
[05:03] <KezK> I think Dapper drake is better in terms of wireless connection management and also graphics stability
[05:03] <KezK> conver - yes that is right
[05:03] <magez_> !bluefish