[19:22] <whabo> marnanel: yes
[19:22] <marnanel> hanif: what is asterix prompt?
[19:22] <Gnea> hanif: or find /TOP/DIRECTORY/OF/IMAGES -name "*.[Jj][Pp][Gg]" -exec mv {} /DESTINATION/DIRECTORY \;
[19:22] <hanif> juswt using asterix as the variable designating "any file in string"
[19:22] <gnorbert> Gnea: Found it...
[19:23] <hanif> *jpg (alll jpegs)
[19:23] <Surye> I'm having a locale issue, it's complaining when ever I use apt, and I noticed /usr/lib/locale is empty
[19:23] <gnorbert> Thanks for everyone.
[19:23] <marnanel> whabo: hm, it is possibly a problem with the wireframe graphics not updating properly then?  Do you know whether you have reduced_resources set?
[19:23] <Client> uit
[19:23] <Gnea> gnorbert: awesome
[19:23] <draginxx> ScheissDrogen, yeah my mouse doesnt have that option :( meh thanks :)
[19:23] <hanif> thanks
[19:23] <ron_BOY> why is linux more secure than windows
[19:23] <whabo> marnanel: i have no idea im new to ubuntu i used pclinuxos before
[19:24] <joseph> Can someone help me? My video cam is very slow
[19:24] <joseph> like 5fps
[19:24] <ron_BOY> I'm worried about spyware - is linux really secure?
[19:24] <hanif> because there are fewer flaw inlet scripts written to attack it
[19:24] <Gnea> ron_BOY: just don't run windows apps on it and you'll be fine
[19:25] <marnanel> whabo: okay.  hm.  I don't know.  Someone reported a similar problem several months back and I thought it was fixed.
[19:25] <hanif> spyware is almost always win32, just download clamav to be safe and you will be fine, and a lot better of than with win
[19:25] <Gnea> !virus | ron_BOY
[19:25] <marnanel> whabo: Raise a bug in Launchpad if you like and I'll get back to you there
[19:25] <ScheissDrogen>  Gnea: gnorbert:  sd works now ?
[19:25] <Fused> Okay, guys. I have a slight problem.
[19:25] <marnanel> whabo: But in practice, can you not just run composited all the time?
[19:25] <whabo> marnanel: thank you
[19:26] <cilkay> ron_BOY: Linux was designed from the outset to be a multiuser, multitasking OS. Windows wasn't. All attempts to turn it into a multiuser OS have just been like putting lipstick on a pig to make it sexier.
[19:26] <whabo> marnanel: i will try to turn off and on things till i find the right combination
[19:26] <SaintMan> Hey
[19:26] <Fused> I installed kubuntu-desktop a few days ago, but found that it wasn't what I wanted. So, I did apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, then apt-get autoremove to check for anything that may have been freed.
[19:26] <Gnea> cilkay: LMFAO
[19:26] <marnanel> whabo: *grins* Well, I'd be interested to hear what you figure out
[19:26] <Fused> Now I still have KDE in my sessions list, and it changed my xubuntu boot image to the kubuntu boot image.
[19:26] <Fused> Anyone know how to reverse this, and fix the sessions problem?
[19:27] <Gnea> Fused: to log into gnome?
[19:27] <Fused> I'm on Gnome now.
[19:27] <marnanel> whabo: if you're interested in doing some differential tests, try especially different combinations of /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources and /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager (if you don't know how to do that, I'll explain on the bug)
[19:27] <Experiment> hey, can anybody help me with an installation problem?
[19:27] <Gnea> Fused: have you noticed any other issues?
[19:27] <Fused> I was wanting to use my Fluxbox, but when I tried to; I found that it went over to the KDE side.
[19:28] <also_Tom> anyone know how I would go about using more than one device to connect to the internet at a time, I have 2 wireless cards, and one wired, and would like to know how to go about getting them all running at the same time, any ideas?
[19:28] <nebukan> but talking security, there werent any needs for encyptionback in dinosaur days so thats a big problem for unix systems that alot of stuff still isent built for that
[19:28] <Fused> There's no other issues that I can pick out.
[19:28] <LocutusOfBorg> Experiment, wich kind of problem?
[19:28] <Fused> It just changed the homepage and everything.
[19:28] <Fused> Basically..
[19:28] <will02> how do i edit the remote desktop preferences from text mode?
[19:28] <Gnea> Fused: but if you removed kde, then it shouldn't be loading kde, right?
[19:28] <negge> is there any way I can show the CPU temperature from the terminal? /proc/cpuinfo didn't give me anything useful and not even dstat told me anything about the temperature although it's supposed to (I think). Any other methods?
[19:28] <whabo> marnanel okay .. yes i do know how to :) i am doing it as we speak thank you for your time
[19:28] <Fused> It made KDE look like it was the operating system that I downloaded, when the operating system that I downlaoded was xubuntu.
[19:28] <marnanel> whabo: np
[19:28] <Fused> Yes, it shouldn't be loading at all, but it has the Kubuntu boot image, and the KDE sessions tag still there.
[19:28] <marnanel> okay, I am going to go look for food.
[19:28] <Fused> I don't know what the issue is.
[19:28] <Gnea> Fused: nah, it just changed your desktop layout, the OS is still the same
[19:29] <ron_BOY> Is there any other good links for information about Linux security ? ?
[19:29] <negge> also_Tom: you can easily connect them all, the trick is to decide what traffic should go through which interface
[19:29] <C-S-B> I have a root.disk from a windows install, can I in install that disk image? I have a completely full ubuntu install on my hdd now, no windows.
[19:29] <Fused> I know..  What stuff isn't built for encryption?
[19:29] <Fused> I know it's not the OS, because all of my files are still here.
[19:29] <negge> also_Tom: I don't know how but it should be possible to for example route BitTorrent traffic through one interface and the rest through another
[19:29] <Fused> :)
[19:29] <Fused> However..
[19:29] <Gnea> Fused: and you said you want an xubuntu system, right?
[19:30] <LADoctor> hi, I tried to edit an ISO using Kiso and after saving with that program I have lost the file
[19:30] <Fused> The system I'm on is xubuntu.. but the boot image changed.
[19:30] <Experiment> Here's the situation Locutus, I have had Windows, and I need to keep it on my system because I do a lot of work with Windows stuff, but now I need to do Unix stuff now too and whatnot.  My computer that I'm trying to install onto was split into two drives, one for anything, and the other just for backups.  I got rid of all the backups on the backup drive, but now I want to install Ubuntu to that drive/partition.
[19:30] <cilkay> nebukan: The *nix philosophy is to chain tools that do a limited number of things well instead of gargantuan monolithic tools that do a lot of things but few of them particularly well.
[19:30] <Gnea> Fused: right, so try this:  sudo aptitude reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[19:30] <Fused> I did notice that when I did "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" and then "apt-get autoremove", that all of the files that kubuntu-desktop originally downloaded weren't deleted.
[19:30] <nebukan> in the seventies there wasent as big need of a 256kbit blaha, soory if im confusing u...  just saying that alot of linux is still plaintext and so on.
[19:31] <Experiment> I'm installing from a CD, and I'm booting Ubuntu from that CD right now, and I'm doing the installation but I can't figure out how to get step 4 of 7, "Prepare Partitions" right
[19:31] <joseph> Help: my webcam fps is very low
[19:31] <C-S-B> Can I use a root.disk to restore all my settings in a full ubuntu install?
[19:31] <samurroud> alguem fala portugues??
[19:31] <cilkay> nebukan: What does that have to do with encryption? And why is plain text a problem?
[19:31] <C-S-B> I have tried doing a cp -r --perserve=all
[19:31] <Fused> Okay, Gnea, it reinstalled.
[19:31] <C-S-B> after mounting the image
[19:31] <Fused> So, I know that should fix the boot image, and the home page.
[19:31] <also_Tom> negge: I am using the networking doodad on the bottom that "auto configures" pretty much everything, except the encryption, it does not allow me to connect using more than one device at time, is there another way I should go about this?
[19:32] <Gnea> Fused: alright, try restarting and see if the kubuntu stuff comes up
[19:32] <Fused> Will that fix the sessions, too?
[19:32] <Gnea> Fused: don't know, let's take it a step at a time
[19:32] <Fused> Alright.
[19:32] <Fused> Be right back. :)
[19:32] <Gnea> k
[19:32] <cilkay> nebukan: If you're referring to email, plain text is indeed a problem but that isn't for lack of tools but for lack of knowledge of users. To get them to use strong crypto for email in a secure fashion is a very difficult thing.
[19:32] <C-S-B> anyone able to help?
[19:32] <ScheissDrogen> Experiment: whole hd for ubuntu ?
[19:32] <ozo> samurroud,  bon dia que foi ?
[19:32] <cilkay> nebukan: And that has nothing to do with Linux.
[19:32] <Gnea> !patience | C-S-B
[19:33] <ScheissDrogen> !ask|C-S-B
[19:33] <nebukan> its always in the hand of the user...
[19:33] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[19:33] <samurroud> nao consigo instalar xmms no meu ubuntu 8.04
[19:33] <FuriousGeorge> i need hep bad with ndis wrapper
[19:33] <Gnea> !backup | C-S-B
[19:33] <will02> is there a way that i can set up a script so that i can keep ubuntu up to date on a server 1000 miles away?
[19:33] <FuriousGeorge> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097289.0
[19:33] <samurroud> com apt-get install nao da
[19:33] <Experiment> Scheiss: not the whole hard drive, just one of the partitions
[19:33] <erUSUL> !xmms | samurroud
[19:33] <ozo> samurroud,  que error che da ?
[19:33] <erUSUL> !pt | samurroud
[19:33] <erUSUL> !pt | ozo
[19:33] <FuriousGeorge> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3097289.0
[19:34] <LADoctor> ! how can I find a filed lost with Kiso save
[19:34] <FuriousGeorge> it works when i install it, until the first rebbot
[19:34] <ScheissDrogen> !who > Experiment
[19:34] <ozo> :)
[19:34] <C-S-B> sorry, Im in support myself, just want some acknowledgement.
[19:34] <ScheissDrogen> Experiment: so where do you stuck ?
[19:34] <FuriousGeorge> if i want ndiswrapper to work again, i have to uninstall it, reboot, and reinstall it
[19:34] <FuriousGeorge> then it works
[19:34] <samurroud> ok
[19:34] <samurroud> vou para o PT
[19:34] <FuriousGeorge> until the next reboot
[19:34] <nebukan> ok, i might not be making sense, but bare with me, unix was built for the purpose of spreading information, not protecting it?
[19:34] <samurroud> Brigado
[19:34] <Gnea> C-S-B: well, not sure what you backed up in the first place...
[19:34] <FuriousGeorge> the symptom is that i cant find any networks
[19:35] <nebukan> i i do love all of my thousand small tools.
[19:35] <cilkay> will02: If you have to ask...  Test locally first then use aptitude or plain old apt in a shell in the remote server. If you want to apply it to a bunch of servers at the same time, there are various ways of doing it. cfengine is one way.
[19:35] <ScheissDrogen> ? trigger for portugues ?
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> i want to backup my software sources and keys
[19:35] <Gnea> C-S-B: but my favorite method is to always put /home on its own partition - if you have to restore the base system, you can restore the user data much easier that way
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> i know the sources are in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[19:35] <peeps> how do you activate an emerald theme?
[19:35] <yao_ziyuan> but what about keys?
[19:35] <peeps> im using gnome
[19:35] <C-S-B> may i pm you gnea?
[19:35] <bobertdos> !pt > ScheissDrogen:
[19:36] <bobertdos> !pt > ScheissDrogen
[19:36] <Theo__> I want to use "sendmail" to forward emails to my gmail account, which will then send it out. What is the easiest way to go about doing this?
[19:36] <Fused> That didn't fix it, Gnea.
[19:36] <Gnea> C-S-B: no, please keep it in the channel, someone else might be able to help
[19:36] <Gnea> Fused: did it do anything at all?
[19:36] <ScheissDrogen> thx, bobertdos
[19:36] <Fused> No.
[19:36] <Fused> Question.
[19:36] <Fused> When I was installing Kubuntu-desktop, it asked me which windows manager I wanted as default.
[19:36] <Gnea> Fused: alright, let's try something else - can you pastebin the output of this command:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep kubuntu
[19:36] <C-S-B> ok, basically I have a root.disk file which is the virtual disk from a wubi install
[19:36] <ScheissDrogen> pt > samurroud
[19:37] <Fused> I'll just do what you say.
[19:37] <Fused> lol.
[19:37] <didier> allo
[19:37] <Gnea> heh
[19:37] <C-S-B> I have since formatted the hdd and install ubuntu
[19:37] <ScheissDrogen> Experiment: so where do you stuck ?
[19:37] <didier> personne ne parle français ?
[19:37] <C-S-B> all my install programs and settings will be within the root.disk
[19:37] <will02> is there a way to set up ubuntu so that apt functions do not require root access?
[19:37] <C-S-B> I'd like to restore all those.
[19:37] <ScheissDrogen> !fr > didier
[19:37] <Gnea> C-S-B: so where is the root.disk?
[19:37] <ron_BOY> What is best way to add a folder in "Places" named "Download" ? ? ?
[19:38] <C-S-B> on a secondary harddisk
[19:38] <ziovan> king are ya in here?
[19:38] <Gnea> ron_BOY: bookmark it
[19:38] <Fused> Gnea: http://gpaste.com/p/7dcce
[19:38] <ScheissDrogen> ron_BOY:sudo mkdir
[19:38] <C-S-B> I backed up the root.disk to my second hdd before doing a full ubuntu install
[19:38] <ron_BOY> Gnea: Thanks
[19:39] <monostone> I lost the multimedia key functionality on my logitech G11 USB keyboard. Xorg.0.log is showing a strange "unreported prefix0 scancode" message. Also, xev no longer reports any scancodes when pressing the keys, BUT system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts DOES detect them all correctly.
[19:39] <roberto_> _roberto
[19:39] <erUSUL> will02: no
[19:40] <Gnea> Fused: okay, let's knock that all out: for i in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep k3b | awk '{print $2}'`; do j=`echo $i`; sudo apt-get remove "$j"; done
[19:40] <cilkay> Is there a way in GDM to have both the username and password appear on the same page like in KDM?
[19:40] <Fused> Gnea: When I installed the KDE, it asked me which windows manager I wanted as default. It had 1. gdm   2. kde
[19:41] <will02> erusul, is there a way then to have ubuntu automatically update itself without any human interaction, say every week?, i know cron would do for the scheduling
[19:41] <Fused> I input 1, but could it have set it to KDE?
[19:41] <miki> Hi, why is it, when I delete movie files, there's no free up space, I have my movies on an an other partiton, which is NTFS formated. It's is stresfull, beacuse now I have 5 GB of secret unerased TRASH...
[19:41] <Gnea> Fused: it shouldn't be a problem :)
[19:41] <erUSUL> will02: well cron jobs shcheduled by root are run as root
[19:41] <Gnea> Fused: ACK - mistyped :)
[19:41] <will02> erusul, ok thanks
[19:41] <Gnea> Fused: okay, let's knock that all out: for i in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep kubuntu | awk '{print $2}'`; do j=`echo $i`; sudo apt-get remove "$j"; done
[19:42] <Gnea> Fused: keep k3b, k3b is good ;)
[19:42] <cilkay> will02: You're asking for trouble doing that on a remote machine but if you must, just set up a cron job to do it. You can pass "y" to apt-get update.
[19:42] <will02> cilkay, why am i asking for trouble?
[19:42] <Fused> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:43] <Gnea> Fused: ok, run that
[19:43] <rubystallion> How can I let the updates automatically install without the tray icon giving so distracting notifications? I wouldn't know why to exclude in update in advance anyway.
[19:44] <raziel> ola
[19:44] <cilkay> will02: For reasons I explained earlier. Most of the time, it'll be fine. The few times it isn't will cause you great pain and you'll regret it. Test updates locally, in a virtual machine locally if you prefer, and then apply remotely.
[19:44] <PiemanXC> When I try to do fdisk -l I get no list of drives or partitions
[19:44] <will02> cilkay, ok
[19:44] <cilkay> will02: I'm working under the assumption that the remote server is colocated and needs to have high uptime.
[19:44] <Gnea> PiemanXC: try sudo fdisk -l
[19:44] <PiemanXC> I did Gnea, same results.
[19:45] <Gnea> PiemanXC: without an argument like that?
[19:45] <cilkay> will02: And that it would be quite inconvenient for you if you broke something with an update.
[19:45] <PiemanXC> it worked without -l.
[19:45] <will02> cilkay, thats true
[19:45] <PiemanXC> gnea, the fdisk syntax popped up
[19:45] <tsukasa> [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1132:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p failed: No such file or directory[AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave[AO_ALSA] Playback open error: No such file or directoryCould not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[19:45] <Gnea> PiemanXC: no, i mean like this:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[19:45] <tsukasa> someone help?
[19:45] <Fused> Okay, Gnea. I ran the command, and it's done.
[19:45] <PiemanXC> Gnea: Oh, no, I didn't.
[19:45] <furenku> hey!! I'm wondering whether a Firewire ExpressCard will work in Ubuntu?
[19:46] <cilkay> will02: Just being cautious. We have hundreds of servers colocated in two different data centres so I speak from experience :)
[19:46] <Gnea> Fused: okay - try the reinstall xbuntu-desktop again
[19:46] <Fused> Reinstalling.
[19:46] <Gnea> Fused: WAIT - which command?
[19:46] <Gnea> ....
[19:46] <Fused> aptitude reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[19:46] <will02> cilkay, i would imagine that would be painful, but then its not doing anything too strange, just holding media, and a web server
[19:47] <Gnea> no, before that
[19:47] <Gnea> which command finished?
[19:47] <Fused> for i in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep kubuntu | awk '{print $2}'`; do j=`echo $i`; sudo apt-get remove "$j"; done
[19:47] <Gnea> Fused: okay, good.
[19:47] <Fused> Alright.
[19:47] <Fused> Reinstalled.
[19:47] <Gnea> :)
[19:47] <Gnea> ok, now try reboot
[19:47] <Fused> Alright.
[19:47] <Fused> BRB again.
[19:47] <Fused> :)
[19:47] <peeps> how do you activate an emerald theme?
[19:48] <compengi> Gnea, i can see you are still enjoying.. :P
[19:48] <Gnea> peeps: best to ask in #compiz-fusion
[19:48] <peeps> Gnea: ah
[19:48] <Gnea> compengi: lol, i hope his system isn't too messed up ;)
[19:48] <compengi> ;)
[19:48] <tsukasa> anyone?
[19:48] <Gnea> !anyone
[19:48] <tsukasa> giant error log above
[19:49] <ziovan> anyone know how to istall a bcm4306 wirless card on hardy?
[19:49] <Gnea> oh
[19:49] <tsukasa> Gnea: AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1132:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p failed: No such file or directory[AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave[AO_ALSA] Playback open error: No such file or directoryCould not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[19:49] <Gnea> !sound | tsukasa
[19:49] <compengi> tsukasa, better to pastebin it, so we can see the lines clearly.
[19:49] <Olsson305> How do i reset the iptables/firewall
[19:49] <tsukasa> Gnea: doesnt help
[19:49] <Gnea> !iptables | Olsson305
[19:50] <Gnea> tsukasa: well, it's telling you that it can't find your sound device. what application is it?
[19:50] <C-S-B> I am currently going to install another fresh ubuntu install, i can mount an image of a ubtuntu install 'root.disk'. How would one go about importing programs, settings etc from that?
[19:50] <Olsson305> Gnea - Doesn't show anything with !iptables
[19:50] <erUSUL> Olsson305: sudo iptables -Fv ?
[19:50] <Gnea> !iptables | Olsson305
[19:50] <Gnea> ....
[19:50] <Olsson305> Nothing shows
[19:50] <Gnea> !hi
[19:51] <Gnea> dude, ubottu just crashed
[19:51] <Olsson305> Mm
[19:51] <Olsson305> But I tried setting up a
[19:51] <McAfee17> how do i .zip files??
[19:51] <Olsson305> router
[19:51] <Olsson305> Now my friggin computer is all messed up.
[19:51] <Gnea> Olsson305: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[19:51] <compengi> !zip > McAfee17
[19:51] <McAfee17> is that a terminal command?
[19:51] <tsukasa> Gnea: mplayer
[19:51] <McAfee17> compengi: is that a terminal command?
[19:52] <tsukasa> Gnea: alsa doesnt work period. but if i output directly to hdmi i get a sound once every 5 tries or so
[19:52] <baastrup> hi, is it posible to play drm wma files?
[19:52] <Gnea> tsukasa: check your ~/.mplayer/config  and make sure it's using the right device
[19:52] <McAfee17> thanks, COMPENGI
[19:52] <tsukasa> Gnea: it is
[19:52] <McAfee17> :D
[19:52] <Gnea> heh, okay, it was lagged
[19:52] <Gnea> tsukasa: could you please pastebin it?
[19:52] <tsukasa> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/m5f55892d
[19:53] <McAfee17> and, ubootu?
[19:53] <compengi> McAfee17, welcome :)
[19:53] <Gnea> heh
[19:53] <Fused> Gnea: That fixed the boot up image. Though, when I restarted, it went to a routine disk check, and gave an error "fcsk has closed with error 4" or something like that.
[19:53] <keebus> Hi to all.
[19:53] <Gnea> tsukasa: no, could you please pastebin your ~/.mplayer/config file?
[19:53] <Olsson305> Gnea - Any idea why my computer almost dies? All I did was to install NAT/Firewall
[19:53] <tsukasa> Gnea: i just do mplayer file -ao alsa
[19:53] <cilkay> will02: Same here, for the most part. That doesn't mean the potential for breakage doesn't exist. One strategy we use to minimize that risk is that we virtualize every server. The host runs a very minimal installation with the only network-related daemon being sshd. We then use Xen or OpenVZ to create virtual machines into which we install whatever, web server, db server, etc.
[19:53] <AaronMT> Any Inspiron 1501 users here with Ubuntu?
[19:53] <Gnea> Fused: eeeh? then what?
[19:53] <tsukasa> Gnea: that overrides the config
[19:54] <Gnea> tsukasa: and it works?
[19:54] <tsukasa> Gnea: no, i get that error. alsa itself doesnt work, not mplayer
[19:54] <Fused> It asked me for the root password for maintenence, and said that I needed to run some command. I don't trust myself doing something that could possibly screw everything up, so I figured that I would check to see what the hell it meant first.
[19:54] <Olsson305> Can someone help me with this, even at this point when i read, I'm clueless...
[19:54] <Gnea> tsukasa: what about alsamixer?
[19:54] <tsukasa> Gnea: all levels maxed and unmuted
[19:55] <Gnea> tsukasa: and if you: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[19:55] <barbarella> Olsson305:what is wrong?
[19:55] <tsukasa> Gnea: if that was supposed to do anything its not
[19:55] <Olsson305> barbarella - well, I tried to configure NAT/Firewalls after some tutorial. Now pretty much nothing works, takes like 5min to start the computer
[19:55] <Olsson305> ,
[19:56] <Olsson305> Also, my internet doesnt work anymore.. What should I do?
[19:56] <Gnea> tsukasa: is it just sitting there or did it return to the prompt?
[19:56] <tsukasa> Gnea: its just sitting there
[19:56] <compengi> baastrup, sure.. on what are you trying to play the wma file?
[19:56] <baastrup> compengi: totem, vlc
[19:56] <Gnea> tsukasa: okay, then it's working, but you're not getting any sound out of your speakers - have you made sure they're plugged in correctly and turned on?
[19:56] <barbarella> Olsson305:what fronted did you install
[19:57] <Fused> Sorry.
[19:57] <Fused> Connection is being gay.
[19:57] <Fused> If you said anything, Gnea, I missed it.
[19:57] <Rafik> hello. I've created a symlink using ln -s but it's browken and retruns 403 Forbidden when try to access from web.. any solution please ?
[19:57] <tsukasa> Gnea: yes, its all setup fine, im trying to get sound out of hdmi, which works if i use the gnome sound thing and select hdmi
[19:57] <compengi> baastrup, if you tried to open a file in totem. it should popup a plugin that you need to download in order to make it run. unless you closed that window once
[19:57] <Flannel> Fused: please don't use that term pejoratively
[19:57] <Olsson305> barbarella, what do you mean, I followed a tutorial. Would you mind taking this in a PM? I can't see what's writting, in a Java room.
[19:57] <Gnea> Fused: eh? all i got was: 13:53 < Fused> Gnea: That fixed the boot up image. Though, when I restarted, it went to a routine disk check, and gave an error "fcsk has closed with error 4" or something like that.
[19:58] <Olsson305> What the hell.
[19:58] <duncan-nz> Fused: I agree with Flannel
[19:58] <shoeunited> O.o
[19:58] <shoeunited> Net burp
[19:58] <tsukasa> Gnea: of course if alsa isnt set up to use hdmi then mplayer obviously wont work
[19:58] <psycose> hi
[19:58] <barbarella> Olsson305:netsplit
[19:58] <baastrup> compengi: what codec package do I need to install for drm support
[19:58] <Gnea> tsukasa: right.
[19:58] <cilkay> Olsson305: Have you considered using a dedicated firewall distro like IPCop instead of trying to create one with a general purpose distro like Ubuntu?
[19:58] <Fused> Agree about what?
[19:58] <barbarella> Olsson305:what did you install?
[19:59] <Fused> What did I say that was considered wrong?
[19:59] <shoeunited> A change in the matrix.
[19:59] <Gnea> Fused: so did the system boot up ok after that?
[19:59] <deepfriedsquirre> How do I change language in Spanish Gnome?
[19:59] <duncan-nz> Fused: but 'pejoratively'? I don't think I've ever seen that word on my screen before. It means 'as an insult' in case anyone was wondering.
[19:59] <compengi> baastrup, did you try to download ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[19:59] <Olsson198> barbarella?
[19:59] <Gnea> Fused: oh, when you said 'gay'
[19:59] <Fused> Technically, I wouldn't say gay in a deragitory way towards anyone, since I am gay myself.
[19:59] <duncan-nz> Fused: you used the word 'gay' as an insult.
[20:00] <compengi> !language > Fused
[20:00] <psycose> I'm trying to know why the Launchpad builder section tells me libasis-dev does not exist although this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libasis-dev exist in intrepid universe section , any tips ?
[20:00] <deepfriedsquirre> How do I change language in Gnome when my current locale is Spanish?
[20:00] <Fused> What the hell.. All I said was my connection is being gay, and I get assaulted for it?
[20:00] <LADoctor> ! how can I find a filed lost with KISO save
[20:00] <unavailable> allright
[20:00] <compengi> deepfriedsquirre, you want to change the whole desktop to spanish?
[20:01] <unavailable> 8.04 install on usb drive throws me to busybox
[20:01] <Flannel> Fused: not assaulted, we just ask that you don't use that term in the pejorative.
[20:01] <deepfriedsquirre> From Spanish to English please.
[20:01] <duncan-nz> Fused: a.) calm down. b.) it's hard work keeping a busy channel polite, that's why we responded quickly.
[20:01] <Fused> 1) I'm not mad; 2) I know. I've been on IRC 7 years.
[20:01] <cilkay> Flannel: Fused just meant that his connection was being "happy" :)
[20:01] <duncan-nz> deepfriedsquirre, have you installed the english language packs?
[20:01] <deepfriedsquirre> They probably just want it to be clear to everyone the intention of stuff...
[20:02] <deepfriedsquirre> duncan-nz: I think they're installed.
[20:02] <unavailable> rofl @ cilkay
[20:02] <Fused> rofl @ happy
[20:02] <unavailable> 8.04 install on usb drive throws me to busybox
[20:02] <deepfriedsquirre> Ouch
[20:02] <duncan-nz> Fused, then: a.) the world is sweet and b.) no one's worked up any more.
[20:02] <cilkay> Or maybe "Brilliant in colors; splendid; fine; richly dressed."
[20:03] <duncan-nz> deepfriedsquirre, please check before we continue.
[20:03] <Fused> Gnea: Do you have any idea on what that error means?
[20:03] <Fused> Everything seems to be working fine.
[20:03] <unavailable> i used this tut http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[20:03] <Fused> I'm not having any read/write errors, other than my browsers liking to close unexpectedly.
[20:03] <compengi> deepfriedsquirre, system>administration>language assistance remove spanish and install english
[20:04] <JC_Denton_> how can I stop network-admin from constantly resetting my dns settings?
[20:04] <duncan-nz> deepfriedsquirre, you don't need to remove one language to make the other one work
[20:04] <compengi> JC_Denton_, try to ask him :D
[20:04] <duncan-nz> Why are the floodbots talking to each other?
[20:05] <compengi> duncan-nz, where?!
[20:05] <SurfnKid> hello, i would like to ask someone to help me out installing skype.It askss for a dependency (libasound2 1.0.12) The version 1.0.9 is installed. Im running DApper... so how could I force the new versin of libasound2 on to this system o get skype running
[20:05] <SurfnKid> hello, i would like to ask someone to help me out installing skype.It askss for a dependency (libasound2 1.0.12) The version 1.0.9 is installed. Im running DApper... so how could I force the new versin of libasound2 on to this system o get skype running
[20:05] <SurfnKid> ooops
[20:05] <JC_Denton_> compengi: network-admin is an application
[20:05] <SurfnKid> sorry
[20:05] <SurfnKid> :/
[20:05] <deepfriedsquirre> duncan-nz: Well it seems to be in my /etc/rc.conf.installed that I've got English language, so I think so. Is this Ubuntu specific or will it work on any distro? Does it requir a root password?
[20:05] <SurfnKid> j #skype
[20:05] <dooglus> Fused: what is that j=`echo $i` bit for?
[20:06] <duncan-nz> on Ubuntu 8.04 in english: 'System > Administration > Language Support'
[20:06] <Fused> ?
[20:06] <Gnea> Fused: after being rebooted so many times, the system just does that
[20:06] <duncan-nz> deepfriedsquirre, compengi: on Ubuntu 8.04 in english: 'System > Administration > Language Support'
[20:06] <Fused> If you're asing about the "for" command that I posted, Gnea gave that to me to remove something.
[20:06] <Gnea> dooglus: it was part of a command that we used to help fix the problem.
[20:06] <Fused> Not really sure what it does, to be honest. I'm not that experienced on linux systems.
[20:06] <Flannel> SurfnKid: Dapper has 1.0.10, and medibuntu has Skype for dapper
[20:06] <dooglus> Fused: the part I quoted looks a bit gay - it's not needed
[20:06] <Cisco> hi, somebody uses ubuntu with macbook santa_rosa???
[20:07] <Gnea> dooglus: no, it's needed. what's not needed is your use of that word.
[20:07] <SurfnKid> Flannel: um.. medibuntu? so shouldi install medibuntu?
[20:07] <duncan-nz> dooglus, did you use that word again? Fused, would you hit him please?
[20:07] <banisterfiend> hey im running linux and about every 30 mins my comp goes really slow, i type 'top' and it appears 'python' is taking up 80% of my cpu, anyone got any ideas which program is likely doing that, something to do with firefox?
[20:07] <dooglus> Gnea: it's ok.  some of my best friends are backquoted
[20:07] <Flannel> SurfnKid: you don't have to install medibuntu, you just have to download the skype package from there.
[20:07] <SurfnKid> Flannel: and not install skype from the website?
[20:07] <Fused> Give me a nine tails whip, and chain him to the wall.
[20:07] <Fused> We'll take turns.
[20:07] <deepfriedsquirre> duncan-nz: thanks
[20:07] <SurfnKid> Flannel: ah ok
[20:07] <Flannel> SurfnKid: Because the website (obviously) isn't meant for dapper
[20:08] <duncan-nz> deepfriedsquirre, is something working?
[20:08] <Gnea> dooglus: so are mine. the problem is that the word has been given 3 different definitions within the past 4 decades.  please, stick with one definition already!
[20:08] <ehtom> I can't get the NVIDIA kernel install .run file to work properly
[20:08] <SurfnKid> Flannel: yep thats right, how would i go about downloading from medibuntu?
[20:08] <ehtom> i've installed linux-headers-`uname -r`
[20:08] <banisterfiend> hey im running linux and about every 30 mins my comp goes really slow, i type 'top' and it appears 'python' is taking up 80% of my cpu, anyone got any ideas which program is likely doing that, something to do with firefox?
[20:08] <SurfnKid> if there is something to read about it
[20:08] <ehtom> but the installer says it needs the kernel source
[20:08] <dooglus> Gnea: I was only fscking around, sorry.
[20:08] <duncan-nz> deepfriedsquirre, once you got the languages you want ticked (selected) in there you should update the system. Then when you login you can choose from the available languages. You can even make shortcuts to run specific programs in specific languages.
[20:08] <compengi> !repeat > banisterfiend
[20:08] <SurfnKid> hehe fscking around!
[20:09] <Fused> Gnea: I can't find any valuable information on the error that I got.
[20:09] <SurfnKid> ppl fsck around with others
[20:09] <ScheissDrogen> ehtom:installed build- essential and checkinstall ?
[20:09] <Flannel> SurfnKid: Well, assuming you're not adding the repos, you just need to download the package: http://packages.medibuntu.org/dapper/skype.html  click the "i386" at the bottom ofthatpage, and you should be able to download the deb.  then just double click on it, ... hmmm, gdebi might be installed by default on dapper.  I honestly don't remember anymore.
[20:09] <unavailable> 8.04 install on usb drive throws me to busybox
[20:09] <unavailable> i used this tut http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[20:09] <Gnea> Fused: but the system was able to bail itself out and get back to the desktop?
[20:09] <ScheissDrogen> !compile > ehom
[20:09] <dooglus> banisterfiend: if you run "ps -Hef", it'll list all the processes in a tree structure, showing which are the parents of which.  can you see your python process in the list?
[20:09] <Fused> Actually, I had to CTRL+D and reboot before it would come back up..
[20:10] <Gnea> dooglus, banisterfiend: pstree does that too
[20:10] <ehtom> ScheissDrogen: I dont have checkinstall
[20:10] <SurfnKid> Flannel: yes it is, from skype.com gdebi picked up the .deb
[20:10] <Fused> It was forcefully making me either go into maintenance, and reboot..
[20:10] <ehtom> ScheissDrogen: but that isn't required to build
[20:10] <compengi> ehtom, when you've downloaded this nvidia driver, there was a guide provided by nvidia on how to, if you followed it correctly and the setup instructions during your driver install, everything should work fine
[20:10] <SurfnKid> Flannel: thanks let me install that
[20:10] <Fused> So I just rebooted and skipped the disk checking the second time around, so I could get back in and see what to do.
[20:10] <Flannel> SurfnKid: alright, well, download that deb, and then install it, and gdebi will bring in whatever deps you need
[20:10] <Gnea> Fused: oh okay, that's normal operation then.
[20:10] <dooglus> Gnea: pstree doesn't seem to give the command list arguments though?
[20:11] <SurfnKid> super im on it... let me see what it does
[20:11] <impulsebsd> hey guys, im recently back into the unix world, and for the life of me can't remember little things.. like how I start a command, on a vt that i can resume later... like an irc session for instance
[20:11] <Gnea> Fused: how did it go otherwise? is it trying to give any kde?
[20:11] <ehtom> compengi: it looks like an ubuntu problem, but I will read over nvidia's document just to make sure
[20:11] <Gnea> dooglus: ah, good point.
[20:11] <dooglus> impulsebsd: look into 'screen' - that's useful for that kind of thing.  or 'dtach'
[20:11]  * SurfnKid is downloading skype from medibuntu
[20:11] <Fused> The boot image came back, the docs are back to xubuntu (instead of kubuntu), and I haven't checked to see if the Sessions changed.
[20:11] <impulsebsd> screeen!~! thats it, thx :P
[20:11] <ScheissDrogen> ehtom:put the driver to /usr/src  , backup xorg.conf , then : sudo sh  blabla.run
[20:11] <Fused> I was too worried about the routine checking erroring.
[20:12] <dooglus> impulsebsd: if you only want a single command, dtach is a good lightweight way to do it
[20:12] <compengi> ehtom, it shouldn't be ubuntu's because you are editing the kernel and the nvidia driver already changed stuff in the kernel
[20:12] <Gnea> dooglus: btw, the j=`echo $i`; is necessary because each result needs to be handled separately, otherwise the data from each result rolls over into the next result, screwing the end result up.
[20:12] <banisterfiend> thanks guys
[20:12] <impulsebsd> i'll look into dtach, thanks!
[20:12] <ehtom> compengi: i'm not editing the kernel at all
[20:13] <dooglus> Gnea: j=`echo $i` is the same as j=i unless $i contains whitespace (which it doesn't)
[20:13] <compengi> ehtom, nvidia driver is :)
[20:13] <dooglus> Gnea: as j=$i I mean, sorry
[20:13] <ScheissDrogen> ehtom : which card ? hardy ? 32 or 64 bit ?
[20:13] <ehtom> compengi: the nvidia driver is a kernel module, the act of installing it does nothing whatsoever to the running kernel
[20:13] <dooglus> Gnea: uh - ok, I'm wrong :)
[20:14] <rodiel> hi
[20:14] <ehtom> ScheissDrogen: 8800GT, hardy x64, NVIDIA 169.09 driver on ubuntu's xen kernel
[20:14] <Gnea> dooglus: no it's not, because j=$i is just shifting the data from one variable to another without change - j=`echo $i` is taking the actual output of the i variable and placing it into j, modified :)
[20:14] <rodiel> how can i install aceracpi and what it is anyway?
[20:14] <compengi> ehtom, btw after installing this driver you need to be aware that every ubuntu kernel update you need to rebuild your drivers and after installing the kernel
[20:14] <ehtom> yeah I know
[20:14] <dooglus> Gnea: try it.  I can't find any example where there's a difference between $i and `echo $i`
[20:14] <ehtom> but the restricted module's package, for some reason, doesn't include the nvidia driver for xen
[20:14] <phantomcircuit> im trying to watch a video but totem is giving me an error when i open it
[20:14] <phantomcircuit> "The playback of this movie requires a text/html decoder plugin which is not installed."
[20:14] <ScheissDrogen> ehtom: should work in the given way, but will have to run config after install, see also :
[20:14] <ScheissDrogen> !nvidia
[20:15] <phantomcircuit> and it doesnt suggest a way to get the decoder
[20:15] <ilkai> not that i dont like anyone or anything, but howtf do i disable autojoin to the ubuntu server with xchat
[20:15] <oinck> phantomcircuit: try to open it with firefox instead
[20:15] <ScheissDrogen> phantomcircuit: try vlc
[20:15] <Gnea> dooglus: i've been writing shell scripts for years - it's especially useful when performing search & replace functions, and when handling data on a case-by-case basis.
[20:15] <phantomcircuit> ScheissDrogen, i did it just doesnt play
[20:16] <Fused> Great.. They just announced a Hurricane Watch for us.
[20:16] <oinck> phantomcircuit: if it's text/html it's not a vid
[20:16] <Gnea> Fused: you in florida?
[20:16] <Fused> North Carolina
[20:16] <dooglus> Gnea: can you find some why to set $x so that this prints something true?  echo $x is different than `echo $x`
[20:16] <phantomcircuit> oinck, sigh it is a video
[20:16] <phantomcircuit> but i got a 403 forbidden page apparently
[20:16] <ScheissDrogen> online video ? address ?
[20:16] <infinite> hello all, does anybody run an Asus P5Q mobo?Which network driver do u use?
[20:16] <Gnea> Fused: aah. up in iowa here, still recovering from tornados and floods.
[20:16] <MrKeuner> hi, I was planning to make my presentation in class using my own laptop which runs Hardy. And it went well, however I had hard time adjusting the resolution. my laptop uses 1400x1050 resolution but the projector was 800x600. is there a way to do this without changing my screen resolution?
[20:17] <Fused> We've been having a lot of tornadoes this year, too.
[20:17] <oinck> phantomcircuit: maybe instead of dl-ing the vid you dl-ed the wrapper
[20:17] <Fused> I don't know what the deal is.
[20:17] <phantomcircuit> oinck, no it decided i was downloading to fast so it gave me a 403 page
[20:17] <Gnea> dooglus: well, the ` are there to denote that the command echo $x is to be run, and then the output be placed into a variable. without the `, the command won't run.
[20:18] <Gnea> Fused: global warming ;)
[20:18] <Fused> http://www.uwm.edu/~kahl/Images/Weather/Severe/multiple_tornadoes.jpg
[20:18] <dooglus> Gnea: the ` and the echo kind of cancel each other out
[20:18] <Fused> That's when you know you're screwed.
[20:18] <Fused> 4 tornadoes in a line.
[20:18] <Gnea> Fused: hehe, let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <rodiel> i installed my wireless card with ndiswrapper and lshw shows it
[20:19] <dooglus> i=$j means "set i to the value of the j variable", whereas i=`echo $j` means "set i to the result of echoing the value of the j variable" - ie. the same thing
[20:19] <Gnea> dooglus: not at all.  w="echo $x";  is not the same as  w=`echo $x`;
[20:19] <phantomcircuit> oinck, bethesda is being retarded and capping me to downloading 3 videos at a time at 300 kbps each
[20:19] <rodiel> but there is no wireless interface in ifconfig and no wireless network in network config
[20:19] <rodiel> hmm help?
[20:19] <phantomcircuit> it's not like sending me the videos faster is going to cost them anymore
[20:19] <Gnea> dooglus: and w='echo $x';  is almost like  w="echo $x";
[20:19] <dooglus> Gnea: no, not at all.  I'm saying that x=$y is the same as x=`echo $y`
[20:19] <Fused> Gnea: Before we take it to offtopic, and reverting back to the routine check problem. Is that problem anything to be worried about? Like I said, everything is reading/writing like it should.
[20:20] <Gnea> Fused: not unless you see it again within the next 5 reboots.
[20:20] <hedgie> hey, i tried to install google desktop using a livecd of ubuntu 8.04 and it won't run ? is it possible? or is there anouther good search tool?
[20:20] <oinck> phantomcircuit: so they are streams, yes? i dont know too much about how well totem or vlc handles streams
[20:20] <Fused> Alright.
[20:20] <Fused> Let me see if I can log out, and log back in on Fluxbox now.
[20:20] <phantomcircuit> oinck, no they are not streams
[20:20] <Gnea> dooglus: just drop it. :)
[20:20] <Fused> And see if KDE got removed from the sessions list.
[20:20] <erUSUL> hedgie: hardy comes with tracker and you can install beagle
[20:20] <dooglus> Gnea: why?
[20:20] <ScheissDrogen> !ot > ScheissDrogen
[20:20] <phantomcircuit> they are just using a stupid form of bandwidth control
[20:21] <hedgie> tracker does not search within achieves
[20:21] <Gnea> dooglus: because a) it's offtopic, b) we've already established that they're not the same, and c) now you're going back and saying that they are the same!
[20:21] <ScheissDrogen> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <ScheissDrogen> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:22] <phantomcircuit> oinck, this is ridiculous i know that this line is more than capable of 50mbps
[20:22] <phantomcircuit> but their end is capping it at 300 kbps
[20:22] <phantomcircuit> >.>
[20:22] <Gustavo-Martins> Hello! I am using ubuntu with XDMCP enabled, and need to connect from windows XP and XMing, but when i connetc i get only the gray screen i wuold like to see GDM login screen, what should i do, to get this screen? what could be rong?
[20:22] <dooglus> Gnea: ok, but you're still wrong :)
[20:22] <Gnea> dooglus: and most importantly, the command helped the user in his time of need. it didn't fail, so no, I was not wrong. :)
[20:23] <Gustavo-Martins> mu532: I just made this way to enable xdmcp on gnome desktop: Desktop > Administration > Session begin window > Remote > Stile - The same as local.
[20:23] <oinck> phantomcircuit: that is not unlikely
[20:23] <dooglus> Gnea: the command worked, but reveals its author's lack of understanding
[20:23] <Skeletor> Hey all, can someone help me?
[20:24] <dooglus> !ask
[20:24] <Fused> Gnea: KDE is still in the sessions list, and my Fluxbox still looks like it's trying to boot to KDE.
[20:24] <Fused> The mouse goes all big like it did when I clicked over to the KDE session, and decided I wanted to rid of it.
[20:25] <Fused> Looks absolutely nothing like fluxbox.
[20:25] <Gnea> dooglus: if you feel that strongly about it, then please, let's discuss this further in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:25] <Fused> Then it gets stuck with a huge mouse, and black screen.
[20:25] <Kaim> ciao
[20:25] <Phantomas> hello where can i find metallic stickers "powered by ubuntu" like this http://www.imgx.org/pfiles/5515/metallic.png in Greece?
[20:25] <Gnea> Fused: hrm.....
[20:25] <greenman> Hello.  I have xubuntu, and I seem to have lost my top and bottom bars, not quite sure how to get them back.  I don't remember changing any settings to get rid of them.  Any suggestions?
[20:26] <hedgie> is there any software that can search within achieves?
[20:26] <blisto1> hey, anyone know why the gnome file browser no longer gives an option for authentication info for samba shares?
[20:26] <blisto1> This is killing our 300 users.
[20:26] <Skeletor> ok, ive tried installing ubuntu many times on this laptop and nothing happens, the furthest i got was the screen with the logo and progress bar, it instantly snapped to about 1/9 completed then stopped
[20:27] <Gustavo-Martins> Hello! I am using ubuntu with XDMCP enabled, and need to connect from windows XP and XMing, but when i connetc i get only the gray screen i wuold like to see GDM login screen, what should i do, to get this screen? what could be rong?
[20:27] <Skeletor> i've also tried using the alternate cd, still nothing happened, a tiny white bar appeared then nothing
[20:28] <blisto1> Skeletor: use verbose mode.
[20:28] <Flannel> Gustavo-Martins: make sure you don't have any firewall things on the windows computer blocking UDP from that other machine.  Are you on the same LAN?
[20:28] <loquitus_of_borg> Can somebody help me out here? I have Ubuntu Hardy running and it is driving me crazy that I cannot have multiple programs using the sound card. If one is running on the sound card, the other fails to load saying the card is not available/in use/whatever. Solution?
[20:29] <yewneek> i have a problem runnin the nvidia-new-glx, everytime i enable it in the restricted drivers, my display goes insane when its coming back from sleep or screensaver so i cant use advanced desktop effects or anything. someone suggested using nvidia-glx instead, only i dont know how any ideas ?
[20:29] <Gustavo-Martins> flannel, i am on the same lan
[20:30] <Gustavo-Martins> flannel: i have tryed from notebook using linux and the  seme screen apears.
[20:31] <Gnea> is kdm or gdm the one that's running?
[20:31] <impulsebsd> can someone recommend a good shell irc proggie? like BitchX used to be.. or a epic + script combo?
[20:31] <Flannel> Gustavo-Martins: on this grey screen your cursor looks like an X, right?
[20:31] <yewneek> gdm
[20:31] <Flannel> impulsebsd: irssi
[20:31] <impulsebsd> thx flannel
[20:31] <Gnea> Fused: is kdm or gdm the one that's running?
[20:31] <Gustavo-Martins> flanne: yes
[20:31] <yewneek> ircII rocks my world !
[20:31] <Fused> I don't know.
[20:32] <Fused> I put in 1, but should I have typed gdm?
[20:32] <squid0>  hi there. I have libdvdcss installed, but when I play certain dvds, kaffeine complains that the disc is encrypted, and that I need to install libdvdcss... when I follow these instructions, the problem persists. what's going on?
[20:32] <Fused> Since then, it hasn't worked with fluxbox, and the KDE stays there..
[20:32] <Gnea> Fused: ctrl-alt-f1, login, and do a:  ps axf | grep [gk]dm
[20:32] <masteredu> can someone say me how can i run mpeg4ip
[20:32] <masteredu> can someone say me how can i run mpeg4ip?
[20:32] <Gnea> !repeat | masteredu
[20:32] <Skeletor> Does anyone have an idea to why ubuntu does nothing when i try to install it? ive tried with both the desktop edition and the alternate cd
[20:33] <ehtom> anyone here, by any chance managed to get nvidia drivers to work in xen dom0?
[20:33] <yewneek> Skeletor bad media ?
[20:33] <yewneek> i havent even got nvidia to work properly with compiz :(
[20:33] <`Matir> Skeletor, what happens when you try?  Does the disc even boot?
[20:33] <masteredu> ok , can someone say  me apps for live streaming with webcam under ubuntu?
[20:33] <yowshi1> how do you get a dvd writer unstuck. ubuntu seems to think that a dvd that hasnt bee in there for days is currently in the drive and i cant bget it to reset
[20:34] <masteredu> the log sucks
[20:34] <Gnea> !webcam | masteredu
[20:34] <Shitakeguy> hello
[20:34] <masteredu> hey
[20:35] <Shitakeguy> o.O  masteredu?
[20:35] <SurfnKid> Flannel: you there? it says, "Error: Conflicts with the installed package skype"
[20:35] <Shitakeguy> I work at an elementary school.
[20:35] <masteredu> gnea i will make a live stream , i dont will only webcam support
[20:35] <greenman> Hello.  I have xubuntu, and I seem to have lost my top and bottom bars, not quite sure how to get them back.  I don't remember changing any settings to get rid of them.  Any suggestions?
[20:35] <masteredu> a live picture / voice live stream
[20:35] <Fused> What was that command again, Gnea?
[20:36] <Gnea> Fused: ps axf | grek [kg]dm
[20:36] <serge> hi guys
[20:36] <Gnea> Fused: ps axf | grep [kg]dm
[20:36] <serge> i am new here
[20:36] <Shitakeguy> Hi
[20:36] <Gustavo-Martins> flannel: i got this mouse cursor like an X, do you have any sugestion?
[20:36] <Shitakeguy> Me too.
[20:36] <Gnea> my typing abilities are low today :)
[20:36] <rodiel> how can i disable the trash bin
[20:36] <yewneek> Gustavo-Martins reconfigure x
[20:36] <Shitakeguy> Gustavo's have been popping up EVERYWHERE...
[20:36] <guntbert> !ot | Shitakeguy
[20:37] <Gnea> !trash | rodiel
[20:37] <masteredu> anyone know livestream webcam software
[20:37] <Flannel> Gustavo-Martins: You need to make sure the UDP packets are reaching your other computer.  Theoretically it could be the router blocking them, although that seems far fetched
[20:37] <Gnea> Fused: okay, it's running gdm - good.
[20:37] <rodiel> ok but how can i disable it?
[20:37] <Shitakeguy> Anybody here a hardcore computer admin?
[20:37] <Fused> So what's the deal with it wanting to start Fluxbox as KDE?
[20:37] <Fused> I'm really confused about that.
[20:37] <Gustavo-Martins> Flannel: thanks very much, i will invetigate that.
[20:38] <guntbert> !anyone | Shitakeguy
[20:38] <cellofellow> I'm using the PPA version of Compiz (0.7.6) and only this last couple of days Minimize Effect has stopped working. Minimizing a window makes it vanish immediately, and restoring it opens with the Open effect. Any idea why this is happening?
[20:38] <yewneek> Shitakeguy define hardcore computer admin
[20:38] <Gnea> Fused: if you press alt-f2, does it ask you a command to run?
[20:38] <Fused> Yes.
[20:39] <Gnea> Fused: ok, run this: gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup
[20:39] <Flannel> cellofellow: You'll want to ask the compiz people, not here.  (I think it's #compiz-fusion)
[20:39] <cellofellow> o
[20:39] <serge> vreun roman pe aici?
[20:39] <cellofellow> ok
[20:39] <Shitakeguy> I need to figure out what IP's are active on my network, so that I can figure out what devices are where... I have to reconfigure the whole network (about 100 boxes)and I'm only a short way through...
[20:39] <Shitakeguy> That better?
[20:39] <Flannel> !ro | serge
[20:39] <Fused> Okay.
[20:39] <Fused> Opened.
[20:39] <vasilisa> Im sad. I want to play septerra core but wine's being mean, since it tries to install in 16 bit or something and im 64 bit. Is there a way to change over to a 32 bit kernel safely?
[20:40] <erUSUL> Shitakeguy: use nmap to scan the network
[20:40] <jing-jang> evening :)
[20:40] <serge> thank you
[20:40] <Shitakeguy> erUSUL thank you :')```
[20:40] <guntbert> Shitakeguy: much :), what network are you on? 192.168.... ?
[20:40] <jing-jang> why my screen sometimes when im surfing the web goes darker and there is no color ???
[20:40] <Fused> Gnea: What next?
[20:41] <phantomcircuit> jing-jang, probably because flash is having a problem
[20:41] <Shitakeguy> guntbert.  yup  192.168.#. (ip range
[20:41] <dGodFatheR> I am trying to fetch a file from a remote computer using rsync but it doesn't succeed.
[20:41] <Shitakeguy> is nmap a command line prompt?
[20:41] <jing-jang> phantomcircuit: hmmm and how i can sort it out ???
[20:41] <Shitakeguy> err command?
[20:41] <erUSUL> jing-jang: is a feature of compiz (effects) if an app (firefox) get stuck or crash the wiondow is greyed out to make a visual indication of the problem
[20:41] <Fused> Yes, nmap is command line.
[20:42] <Fused> nmapfe is the GUI.
[20:42] <erUSUL> Shitakeguy: you can install a gui gor it
[20:42] <guntbert> Shitakeguy: ok then type nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>-254, you should get the required responses
[20:42] <jing-jang> erUSUL: aha :) so how i can sort it out ???
[20:42] <Shitakeguy> O.O
[20:42] <erUSUL> jing-jang: well you can not if firefox is crashing/getting stuck you want to know about it
[20:43] <dGodFatheR> i do, rsync -av -e ssh user@remoteIp:/path/to/file /path/local/dir
[20:43] <dGodFatheR> how can i make it work?
[20:43] <jing-jang> erUSUL: aha so i wil try to dig something on internet about that :)
[20:43] <jing-jang> erUSUL: thnx anyway :)
[20:43] <Shitakeguy> o.O  nmap isn't found...
[20:44] <guntbert> Shitakeguy: apt-get install nmap
[20:45] <Shitakeguy> ...  I'm at the command prompt on the machine I loaded Ubuntu-server on.
[20:46] <dGodFatheR> please i really need to copy a file over the ssh connection
[20:46] <dGodFatheR> actually it's a dir
[20:46] <Fused> Gnea: Sorry about that.
[20:46] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: scp ?
[20:46] <Shitakeguy> and I'm wanting to convert the whole system over to linux, but I'll have to do it a ...
[20:46] <Fused> What was I saying before I abruptly left?
[20:46] <jing-jang> erUSUL:  found the problem :) i had the effects on in appearence  :) now its working ok :)
[20:46] <linkslice> i'm running phpeclipse and having some problems with it, the phpeclipse folks are telling me that the openjdk won't work and I have to use sun or ibm java, what's the 'ubuntu way' of installing that?
[20:46] <dGodFatheR> well shouldn't rsync be good enough?
[20:46] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL:
[20:46] <dGodFatheR> ?
[20:46] <guntbert> Shitakeguy: you want to install nmap, like I wrote above
[20:47] <Gnea> Fused: i was actually going to say, make sure there isn't anything to do with kde in the gdm config
[20:47] <greenman> Hello.  I have xubuntu, and I seem to have lost my top and bottom bars, not quite sure how to get them back.  I don't remember changing any settings to get rid of them.  Any suggestions?
[20:47] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: scp your_username@remotehost.xxx:foobar.txt /some/local/directory
[20:47] <Fused> gksu /usr/....
[20:47] <rodiel> thanks for .. help! bye
[20:48] <Fused> What was the directory, again?
[20:48] <Overand> I'm using UFW - and it doesn't sseem to be writing its rules out to any files
[20:48] <Overand> It's *working* - but it doesn't appear to be saving the rules
[20:49] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: rsync is averkill for a single file
[20:49] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: rsync is overkill for a single file
[20:50] <FicaBlok38> hello, how can i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 alpha 4?
[20:50] <nebukan> i have a hp 6910p laptop with their 3d drive watch. do anyone if that is supported in ubuntu? or if i need to tweak it...
[20:50] <Fused> Gnea: gksu /usr/_____
[20:50] <Fused> I forgot the rest of what you said.
[20:51] <Gnea> Fused: sbin/gdmsteup
[20:51] <Gnea> Fused: sbin/gdmsetup
[20:51] <Gnea> !
[20:51] <phantomcircuit> nebukan, highly unlikly
[20:51] <Gnea> i better stop trying to type today
[20:52]  * sber bye
[20:52] <SebNaitsabes> FicaBlok38:  I would suggest asking in #ubuntu+1
[20:52] <Fused> It doesn't have KDE selected as the default session, but it does have KDE in the default session list.
[20:52] <FicaBlok38> SebNaitsabes: ok
[20:52] <Shitakeguy> guntbert I... crap... now I'm having trouble with the RAID
[20:52] <FicaBlok38> thanks
[20:52] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: i am not moving a single file, as i wrote i need a full directory
[20:52] <Overand> !ufw
[20:52] <Overand> =[
[20:52] <nebukan> phantomcircuit, not like the thinkpads then, they got that shit even working with compiz holy shit
[20:52] <Shitakeguy> !SCSI
[20:53] <Shitakeguy> !RAID
[20:53] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: but now i noticed, that the scp is stalled
[20:53] <guntbert> Shitakeguy: sorry, good luck with that
[20:53] <spacy> nabend
[20:53] <dGodFatheR> what does it mean?
[20:53] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: you wrote user@remoteIp:/path/to/file <<<
[20:53] <Fused> So, what's the next step in trying to figure out this insufferable torture?
[20:53] <Fused> lol..
[20:53] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL:
[20:53] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: so i missunderstood
[20:53] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: yes
[20:53] <Overand> Shitakeguy: softwre raid, hardware raid, or 'fakeraid' ?
[20:53] <olskolirc> hey hey cool cool cats...how do I turn a uif file into an iso
[20:54] <spacy> hi is there someone with use of mcp67(nvidia)alsa and hdmi
[20:54] <dGodFatheR> erUSUL: i am getting a stalled status in shell for scp on a single file
[20:54] <erUSUL> !iso > olskolirc
[20:54] <sealedwithakiss> Can somebody help me? I have recently installed Beryl onto my computer, but it has vanished from the applications menu. Why is this?
[20:55] <erUSUL> dGodFatheR: dunno what is wrong ...
[20:55] <olskolirc> thanks
[20:55] <erUSUL> !beryl | sealedwithakiss
[20:55] <Gnea> Fused: somewhere, kde is listed in a session file...
[20:56] <ijn> hi all
[20:56] <kero__> hi
[20:56] <sealedwithakiss> erUSUL, so what should I do to remove Beryl and install Fusion?
[20:56] <ijn> I need to by a wireless express card draft N
[20:56] <Fused> Would removing kdm help?
[20:56] <skaarg> I have a Radeon 9200 and am using the composite out to use my TV.  Right now it's just using a VESA driver according to the xorg.conf. Well some video is laggy. do I need to download the ATI 6.8.0 open source driver?
[20:56] <ijn> dell inspiron 6400 ubuntu gutsy
[20:57] <ijn> what I can buy?
[20:57] <Gnea> Fused: you could try it
[20:57] <ijn> some brand that is supported and drivers are ok
[20:57] <Fused> It won't screw anything else up, would it?
[20:57] <chazco> Hi... the card reader on my laptop seems to think its a CD drive :D Think it may be because i installed from USB... any ideas? It says "invalid mount option when attempting to mount the device" when a card is inserted
[20:57] <Gnea> !wireless | ijn
[20:58] <Gnea> Fused: nope
[20:58] <ijn> yes
[20:58] <erUSUL> sealedwithakiss: on hardy compiz-fusion is installed by default. you enable it in Systrem>Preferences>Appearance|effects tab
[20:58] <ijn> ok
[20:58] <Fused> Okay. Removed.
[20:59] <Gnea> ijn: there are a list of supported wireless cards there, see which ones will work okay with your dell and figure from there
[20:59] <punchagan> can somebody tell me if the deadline for media submissions for Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase is over? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase
[20:59] <Fused> Gnea: KDE is still in the sessions list, with KDM removed.
[20:59] <sealedwithakiss> erUSUL, I have Feisty. What should I do in my case?
[20:59] <ijn> ok thanks
[21:00] <dGodFatheR> i am trying to scp a file and i get stalled status, why is that?
[21:00] <erUSUL> sealedwithakiss: ooops maybe beryl is the right answer for you then. iirc beryl was included on universe
[21:00] <dGodFatheR> what does that mean?
[21:00] <Gnea> dGodFatheR: could mean any number of things. probably too much network conjestion.
[21:00] <MrKeuner> hi, I was planning to make my presentation in class using my own laptop which runs Hardy. And it went well, however I had hard time adjusting the resolution. my laptop uses 1400x1050 resolution but the projector was 800x600. is there a way to do this without changing my screen resolution?
[21:01] <Fused> Gnea: How would you use a wildcard in apt-get remove?
[21:01] <spacy> no one here with nvidia and hdmi
[21:01] <sealedwithakiss> erUSUL, thanks a lot. Do you have any idea why it may have vanished from my applications menu though?
[21:01] <m3F> :v html
[21:01] <Cpudan80> MrKeuner: not really
[21:01] <erUSUL> sealedwithakiss: dunno really
[21:01] <Gnea> Fused: you want to remove all kde apps?
[21:01] <Cpudan80> MrKeuner: An NVidia card could do it - definitely not an ATI
[21:01] <Fused> I was going to do "apt-get remove kubuntu*"
[21:02] <MrKeuner> Cpudan80: there is a clone option at the screen resolution dialog. What's that for?
[21:02] <Fused> because I'm not sure if it removed everything like it should have
[21:02] <Gnea> Fused: but you already did that :)
[21:02] <Cpudan80> MrKeuner: for making them exactly the same
[21:02] <jokkaa> Im having a serious problem. currently using Emesene ( have used pidgid, kmess, kopete) somehow, all msn clients will fail to send/recieve random messages at some points... nay ideas why+
[21:02] <Mordred666> i got a problem with smb, i right click on a folder and select share, but it asks me to be root, who do i deal with that?
[21:02] <Cpudan80> MrKeuner: if you have an nvidia card - you need to use nvidia-config and do dual head X
[21:02] <Fused> What the hell..
[21:02] <Fused> I don't have a clue, then.
[21:02] <Cpudan80> MrKeuner: simple to do with its tool
[21:02] <MrKeuner> Cpudan80: mine is ati unfortunately
[21:03] <oinck> lotta/hellanzb > grabit
[21:03] <Fused> It's confusing me beyond return. I want my fluxbox working, and everything having to do with KDE being gone.
[21:03] <dGodFatheR> Gnea, i don't think it's that, because it's not a crouded network on any side
[21:03] <Cpudan80> MrKeuner: you could write your xorg.conf file manually to do it -- but Im not real sure on the syntax
[21:03] <dGodFatheR> anything else i might be able to solve?
[21:03] <Fused> Like I said way earlier, it didn't remove everything that it downloaded with the kubuntu-desktop package.
[21:03] <Cpudan80> MrKeuner: I have the same problem with my laptop
[21:03] <ScheissDrogen> MrKeuner:which ati ? what do you want it to do ?
[21:04] <guntbert> dGodFatheR: can you ssh into the remote computer?
[21:04] <spacy> is there a german irc
[21:04] <knorr> Hi. Anyone got experience with compiling the openafs module? Can't seem to get it build correctly.
[21:04] <guntbert> !de | spacy
[21:04] <spacy> jo danke habe ich auch gerade gefunden !
[21:05] <fabiano> hi
[21:05] <dGodFatheR> guntbert: yes
[21:05] <Scogit> nabend kann mir wer sagen wie ich bei nfs die Berechtigung richtig setze damit ich schreib zugriff drauf habe?
[21:05] <lfaraone|ffm> Hey, how do I signify that a new key is owned by the same person as the old key?
[21:05] <Gnea> Fused: well, what about aptitude reinstall fluxbox
[21:05] <amenado> MrKeuner-> if you have the entries for 800x600 on your xorg.conf  you should be able to use ctrl+alt  + or - on the numpad
[21:05] <ScheissDrogen>  Scogit: pm me
[21:05] <lfaraone|ffm> (gpg)
[21:05] <Gnea> dGodFatheR: were you able to get the directory switch?
[21:06] <guntbert> dGodFatheR: then try the reverse path, scp from the other to your computer
[21:06] <dGodFatheR> Gnea: what do you mean?
[21:06] <dGodFatheR> guntbert: OK
[21:06] <Gnea> dGodFatheR: with scp -r
[21:06] <Pirate_Hunter> does ufw block all ports by default once enabled, cause i cant access the internet on the other comp?
[21:06] <sealedwithakiss> I am trying to install Firefox 3. I have used Synaptic package manager to install it, however Firefox is still the same. When I run 'sudo apt-get install firefox 3' it say's that Firefox is already it's newest version, which it clearly isn't. Why could this be happening?
[21:06] <dGodFatheR> Gnea: well couldn't even copy one file
[21:07] <dGodFatheR> guntbert: BTW, the first is from the remote to me
[21:07] <Fused> Gnea, I tried aptitude reinstall fluxbox, and it still kicked it over to the KDE side.
[21:07] <oinck> sealedwithakiss: that depends on what the newest version of firefox is in the repositories that you have chosen
[21:07] <dGodFatheR> now i will reverse to sent to remote
[21:07] <unop> Fused, you need to change your session at the login window
[21:07] <sealedwithakiss> oinck, right. So how could I correct this?
[21:08] <oinck> sealedwithakiss: what flavor of ubuntu are you using? hardy surely has ff3 in the repositories
[21:08] <amenado> sealedwithakiss-> try to log off and log back on
[21:08] <Fused> unop: I know that. However, KDE is showing up in the sessions list, and we are trying to get it out. Kubuntu-desktop has been removed from my system, but continues to show up in the sessions list.
[21:08] <Fused> Then it kicks Fluxbox over into KDE, instead of Fluxbox.
[21:08] <sealedwithakiss> oinck, I upgraded Feist to Gutsy.
[21:09] <lfaraone|ffm> Pirate_Hunter: disable and try it.
[21:09] <Gnea> unop: i don't quite understand it. maybe you can help him.
[21:09] <ubux> #join #ubuntu-ru
[21:09] <unop> Fused, kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage - removing it has little effect.  fluxbox by default does not launch any session managers, are you starting something with fluxbox?
[21:09] <Fused> No.
[21:09] <Pirate_Hunter> lfaraone|ffm: nah all ports are closed just need to open port 80 but i dont want unnessary stuff connecting to it from the comp
[21:10] <Fused> What I'm trying to say is that I removed kubuntu-desktop from my system. I have a few desktop environments on here.
[21:10] <Fused> I have Gnome, Xfce, Fluxbox, and wsii
[21:10] <unop> Fused, as i said, removing kubuntu-desktop does not remove any kde packages
[21:10] <Fused> However, KDE keeps coming up amongst the sessions, when it has been deleted.
[21:10] <unop> it hasnt
[21:10] <SebNaitsabes> Fused:  and you have KDE programs left behind?
[21:10] <myr> anyone know how to suppress join/part messages in xchat ?
[21:10] <Pirate_Hunter> to connect to the internet i only need port 80 (for surfing purpose, etc)?
[21:10] <dGodFatheR> guntbert: well it worked the other way, meaning i can send a file to the remote, but can't copy to my pc
[21:10] <unop> Fused, to remove all of KDE -- see !puregnome for instructions
[21:10] <Fused> Yes. The programs that were installed with kubuntu-desktop were not uninstalled when I uninstalled kubuntu-desktop.
[21:11] <SebNaitsabes> !purgegnome
[21:11] <SebNaitsabes> !puregnome
[21:11] <Fused> !puregnome
[21:11] <unop> Fused, that's right .. removing a metapackage does not actually remove much
[21:11] <oinck> sealedwithakiss: sorry, i do not have experience running FF3 on Gutsy, maybe someone else can help
[21:12] <unop> myr, right click the channel tab ...
[21:12] <Fused> This system isn't a pure gnome system, though. It's xubuntu, not Ubuntu.
[21:12] <guntbert> dGodFatheR: scp works both ways, wherever you are sitting, so exchange source<->target
[21:12] <Fused> Does that make any difference?
[21:12] <myr> unop, thanks
[21:12] <unop> Fused, all will become apparent once you read !puregnome
[21:12] <Shitakeguy> !ubuntuserver
[21:12] <Shitakeguy> !server
[21:13] <Fused> Thanks, unop. Hopefully this will fix the problem.
[21:14] <dGodFatheR> guntbert: now it's working for me
[21:15] <guntbert> dGodFatheR: fine :)
[21:15] <dGodFatheR> guntbert: what should my command look like to succeed passing a directory?
[21:15] <MrKeuner> ScheissDrogen: my screen res. is 1400x1050, projector can support max 800x600. Do I have to change my screen res. in order to use the projector?
[21:15] <MrKeuner> ScheissDrogen: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
[21:15] <Jakob_the_liar> which should i learn first shell scripting or python
[21:16] <ScheissDrogen> MrKeuner: think so, got the catalyst center from ati installed ?
[21:17] <MrKeuner> ScheissDrogen: not sure, what is the binary called?
[21:18] <Fused> unop: I received an error at the end of the uninstall.
[21:18] <ScheissDrogen> MrKeuner: go to ati hp, get your driver, install it (backup xorg.conf before), very comfortable settings, then
[21:18] <Fused> Is it okay to paste here? (3 lines)
[21:18] <ScheissDrogen> MrKeuner: 32 or 64 bit ?
[21:19] <MrKeuner> ScheissDrogen: 32. I would not prefer to break my package management heritage
[21:19] <dGodFatheR> guntbert: well i can't succeed in copying a full directory
[21:19] <dGodFatheR> how can i do that?
[21:19] <drunkmuppet> Hey. I have a computer here. Dell 1420, upgraded to 8.04 from 7.10 and now the sound doesn't work.
[21:20] <Jordan_U> drunkmuppet: Do the tests in System -> Preferences -> Sound work ?
[21:20] <drunkmuppet> no
[21:20] <Jordan_U> drunkmuppet: Have you tried switching to alsa directly rather than using pulseaudio?
[21:20] <guntbert> dGodFatheR: tar you directory, scp that file, untar it on the target
[21:20] <ScheissDrogen> MrKeuner: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_64.run
[21:21] <Pooky> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu server, to try it out as a file server, and my clients constantly disconnect not only to the fileshare, but any remote sessions that may be running as well
[21:21] <drunkmuppet> By choosing Alsa in the list?
[21:21] <Jordan_U> drunkmuppet: Yes
[21:21] <drunkmuppet> Yea, tried that.
[21:21] <Pooky> It's reinforced my love of screen to be sure :P but I'm not sure what the culprit could be and was wondering if someone could just point me to what a good search would be
[21:21] <EagleScreen> i have two computers connected by LAN
[21:21] <EagleScreen> one has direct connection to internet
[21:21] <ScheissDrogen> MrKeuner: otherwise u can  use xorg.conf (little danger) or displayconfig-gtk to be able to cfg resolution
[21:21] <Pooky> outbound connects continue as if nothing happened....
[21:22] <EagleScreen> the other connects by gateway
[21:22] <Pooky> it's just the inbound traffic that just suddenly dies
[21:22] <drunkmuppet> Jordan_U it doesn't detect the Sound Card, however you can see the card in an lspci -l
[21:22] <EagleScreen> the second computer can ping to internet addresses, for instance: ping www.google.com works
[21:22] <MrKeuner> ScheissDrogen: sounds better. thank you
[21:22] <Jordan_U> drunkmuppet: How can you tell that it doesn't detect the sound card?
[21:22] <ScheissDrogen> MrKeuner: i run a ati x1600 and I'm doing fine with the catalystcenter & displayconfig-gtk
[21:22] <EagleScreen> but cannot browse webs or download files
[21:23] <guntbert> !enter | EagleScreen Pooky
[21:23] <skaarg> i tried to install my radeon 9200 driver using envyNG and it's saying my operating sytem is unsupported. any ideas?
[21:23] <skaarg> system*
[21:23] <drunkmuppet> When you double click the sound icon in the tray it says: No volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[21:23] <drunkmuppet> And when you do a
[21:23] <drunkmuppet> asoundconf list shows No cards
[21:24] <phantomcircuit> does anybody know why transmission (bittorrent client) goes idle after a few minutes?
[21:24] <EagleScreen> i have putted three DNS addresses in /etc/resolv.conf, that shuld be sufficient inst? I dont know why not browse web pages
[21:24] <Osse> barbarella!
[21:25] <Shitakeguy> o.O
[21:25] <phantomcircuit> EagleScreen, possibly it doesnt work because your dns is being messed with
[21:25] <phantomcircuit> just a thought
[21:26] <unavailable> ubuntu 8.04 on usb keeps giving me busybox
[21:26] <unavailable> trying to go persistent
[21:26] <sealedwithakiss> Why doesn't Firefox upgrade when I run the <IP_ADDRESS> installation? It says it's worked, but then doesn't update. Why?
[21:26] <koto> how come the ssb driver loads everytime on startup although I blacklisted it?
[21:26] <ScheissDrogen>  skaarg: the new drivers from ati don't support ati9200 no more, but old drivers are still available
[21:26] <compengi> phantomcircuit, it could be because you got lost connection to the tracker?
[21:26] <EagleScreen> phantomcircuit one of these addresses is working right now in the other computer
[21:26] <phantomcircuit> koto, are you sure you black listed it?
[21:26] <phantomcircuit> compengi, highly unlikely
[21:27] <phantomcircuit> oh
[21:27] <phantomcircuit> no
[21:27] <phantomcircuit> your right
[21:27] <phantomcircuit> wtf
[21:27] <phantomcircuit> god dman tracker
[21:27] <FloodBot2> phantomcircuit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <compengi> :D
[21:27] <phantomcircuit> but i still have peers listed
[21:27] <koto> phantomcircuit: well, I've added a line blacklist ssb into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so that should do it, no?
[21:27] <phantomcircuit> why cant it just keep going?
[21:27] <unavailable> ubuntu 8.04 on usb keeps giving me busybox
[21:27] <unavailable> trying to go persistent
[21:27] <ScheissDrogen>  skaarg: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_64.run               (32bit)
[21:28] <compengi> phantomcircuit, could be that they aren't uploading or the tracker hanged
[21:28] <phantomcircuit> wait no
[21:28] <Fused> http://gpaste.com/p/fa845
[21:28] <phantomcircuit> it retried and succeeded
[21:28] <Fused> Anyone know how to fix that problem?
[21:28] <unavailable> ubuntu 8.04 on usb keeps giving me busybox
[21:28] <unavailable> trying to go persistent
[21:28] <compengi> phantomcircuit, have you used torrent p2p network before?
[21:28] <phantomcircuit> busybox?
[21:28] <phantomcircuit> yeah
[21:28] <unavailable> yep
[21:29] <koto> phantomcircuit: or how can I just tell the system which driver it should load for my wireless card?
[21:29] <compengi> unavailable, define "bosybox"
[21:29] <unavailable> !busybox
[21:29] <phantomcircuit> koto, not a clue
[21:29] <compengi> unavailable, what do you really mean by that
[21:29] <phantomcircuit> compengi, http://rafb.net/p/JdT9M936.html
[21:29] <remote> Hello
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> oh
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> win
[21:30] <remote> where is the command not found handled in bash?
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> UPnP finally responded
[21:30] <vlt> Hello. I have a SCSI adapter card "Adaptec AHA-1542CF" (ISA). I tried `modprobe aha1542` to activate it but got "FATAL: Error inserting aha1542 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/scsi/aha1542.ko): No such device". Any idea how to solve this?
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> yeah
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> you have to get the driver ;)
[21:30] <compengi> phantomcircuit, have you used p2p torrent networks before or it's your first time using it?
[21:30] <unavailable> compengi busybox
[21:31] <unavailable> and initramfs
[21:31] <TJ-42> Is there any big difference between Add/Remove Applications and the package manager?
[21:31] <phantomcircuit> compengi, i have used this particular network several times
[21:31] <unavailable> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/219192
[21:31] <sluimers> Hi I cannot get direct rendering glxinfo | grep rendering gives me:  /usr/lib/dri/unichrome_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:31] <sluimers> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[21:31] <remote> ah i got it
[21:31] <phantomcircuit> the problem was my schools network takes forever to approve UPnP requests
[21:31] <compengi> phantomcircuit, have you got full speeds on it?
[21:31] <phantomcircuit> and transmission idled while waiting
[21:32] <sluimers> I use openchrome, not unichrome
[21:32] <phantomcircuit> now im getting like 3 MiB/s (and yes that is a big B :P )
[21:32] <compengi> phantomcircuit, that's why i was asking, because it could be that your ISP has restricted to used this network. that's why you can't seem to be able to fully connect to the tracker
[21:32] <bryan__> SAlut. Y'a des gens ici qui parle le francais ?
[21:32] <Fused> Error I need help with: http://gpaste.com/p/fa845
[21:32] <unavailable> compengi Definition: busybox: Tiny utilities for small and embedded systems. BusyBox combines tiny versions of many common UNIX utilities into a single small executable. It provides minimalist replacements for the most common utilities you would usually find on your desktop system (i.e., ls, cp, mv, mount, tar, etc.). The utilities in BusyBox generally have fewer options than their full-featured GNU cousins; however, the option
[21:32] <unavailable> s that are included provide the expected functionality and behave very much like their GNU counterparts. This package installs the BusyBox binary but does not install symlinks for any of the supported utilities. You can use /bin/ busybox --install to install BusyBox to the current directory (you do not want to do this in / on your Debian system!).
[21:32] <bryan__> Hello all. Dou you speak French pls. Help
[21:33] <vlt> !fr | bryan__
[21:33] <phantomcircuit> compengi, yeah i was confused because it was working... just slowly.. then it idled
[21:33] <phantomcircuit> i know exactly what happened now though
[21:33] <bryan__> Tx vlt
[21:33] <unavailable> is pici here?
[21:33] <compengi> unavailable, don't paste here. use pastebin
[21:33] <PupUserRedvamp12> Anyone feel like a little challenge
[21:33] <palango> hi there, when will aplha 5 be available?
[21:34] <skylounge> does anyone have any experience with screen being left adjusted?
[21:34] <unavailable> compengi well you wanted to know what busybox was,   (obviously not an avid linux head)
[21:34] <PupUserRedvamp12> Right now I am in Puppy linux 4.0 but I am trying to fix my Ubuntu/Xubuntu and It won't shut down.
[21:34] <phantomcircuit> unavailable, wait your trying to install busybox?
[21:34] <phantomcircuit> WHY?
[21:34] <unavailable> no
[21:34] <unavailable> god READ MY POSTS
[21:34] <unavailable> ubuntu 8.04 on usb keeps giving me busybox
[21:34] <Shitakeguy> !busybox
[21:34] <compengi> Fused, why are you trying to autoremove it. can't you just "sudo apt-get remove kio-umountwrapper" ?
[21:34] <drunkmuppet> Jordan_u - rolling back the kernel fixed the sound issue
[21:35] <PupUserRedvamp12> I would try the forum but last time I had issue with it ---Took 3 days to get a response back...
[21:35] <unavailable> i am trying to install UBUNTU HARDY HERON 8.04.1 on a USB STICK and it keeps going to BUSYBOX
[21:35] <phantomcircuit> unavailable, oh
[21:35] <phantomcircuit> jeez
[21:35] <phantomcircuit> you mean it keeps going to the terminal?
[21:35] <Fused> It gives the same error either way, compengi.
[21:35] <unavailable> no
[21:35] <phantomcircuit> define "going to"
[21:35] <unavailable> i mean it keeps going to BUSYBOX
[21:35] <unavailable> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/219192
[21:36] <unavailable> GOD
[21:36] <unavailable> where are the real linux helpers
[21:36] <PupUserRedvamp12> Puppy linux shuts down just fine- and thought there may be a setting in there that may help fix ubuntu
[21:36] <PupUserRedvamp12> unavail
[21:36] <compengi> Fused, did you try to get into the package manager and remove it from there?
[21:36] <PupUserRedvamp12> when you mean busy box do you mean prompt?
[21:36] <Fused> I just tried it, and it wouldn't do anything.
[21:36] <phantomcircuit> unavailable, busy doing real linux things?
[21:36] <unavailable> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/219192
[21:37] <phantomcircuit> unavailable, my my look at that you found the bug all by yourself
[21:37] <Fused> It has kio-umountwrapper highlighted in red, with a red check in the box..
[21:37] <Fused> Yet, it won't remove.
[21:37] <unavailable> yes and i tried that AND IT DIDNT WORJK
[21:37] <PupUserRedvamp12> Does anyone want to help --- the shutdown issue---
[21:37] <Fused> Should I attempt to reinstall, and then uninstall?
[21:37] <phantomcircuit> unavailable, then somethign else is wrong?
[21:37] <unavailable> http://www.virtualization.info/uploaded_images/busybox-789437.jpg
[21:37] <phantomcircuit> jeesz
[21:37] <PupUserRedvamp12> It pains me to have to turn it off- when it still displays Ubuntu logo  all blacked out ---
[21:38] <unavailable> well.... considering busybox (initramfs) still show up
[21:38] <firelog> Question:   How can I find the lastest release info (service pack, updates, etc?) that has been applied to my box?
[21:38] <PupUserRedvamp12> or at least is there a way to turn on the old Linux shutdown?
[21:38] <unavailable> pici
[21:38] <PupUserRedvamp12> where at least it shows me that all services have been terminated
[21:38] <dGodFatheR> my remote ssh server on some operations it's stuck with a blank line
[21:38] <Babbleback> how would i watch a webcast at http://google.client.shareholder.com/Visitors/event/build2/MediaPr        esentation.cfm?MediaID=33101&Player=1 in ubuntu (Webcast Press Event for Launch of Google Chrome for windows Media Player)
[21:38] <compengi> Fused, try sudo aptitude remove kio-umountwrapper
[21:38] <firelog> would  /etc/issue be the best bet?
[21:39] <}uni0r> hi
[21:39] <Fused> compengi, I have already tried every way to get it off.
[21:39] <redbox> dGodFatheR: did you try using ctrl+c?
[21:39] <unop> Fused, do you have a file at /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm  ?
[21:39] <Fused> I'm attempting to reinstall and then remove it.
[21:39] <Fused> Maybe that will work.
[21:39] <dGodFatheR> say i am taring a file after pressing enter to start tarring i can't see if the operation is finished or not since it's a blank line stuck and not responding even to ctrl+c
[21:39] <dGodFatheR> redbox: yep
[21:39] <redbox> dGodFatheR: did you tar the file using the -v switch for verbose?
[21:39] <dGodFatheR> mmmmmmmmmmmmm NO
[21:40] <dGodFatheR> but still it's not responding at all
[21:40] <nnull> hey guys i have a setting in a router that allows me to email logs, how to i tell it to email my pc and stuff?
[21:40] <redbox> dGodFatheR: try ctrl+z to background it? then find the PID and kill it?
[21:40] <PupUserRedvamp12> ? when someone gets time and wants to help
[21:40] <compengi> Fused, did you try also sudo dpkg -r package.deb?
[21:40] <unavailable> Honestly, if you guys have never seen busybox after an install of ubuntu, you have no right to help other people with their problems
[21:40] <dGodFatheR> redbox: well it's not responsive to any of my keypresses
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Babbleback: Search for it on youtube via totem
[21:40] <redbox> dGodFatheR: log in using another ssh session and try killing the pid
[21:40] <unavailable> pici
[21:41] <phantomcircuit> unavailable, right so because i have well supported hardware and essentially never have any serious issues as i dont do stupid shit, i cant help people?
[21:41] <unavailable> this is an example of busybox  http://www.virtualization.info/uploaded_images/busybox-789437.jpg
[21:41] <unop> !language | phantomcircuit
[21:41] <Flannel> unavailable: Please be nice.
[21:41] <dGodFatheR> redbox: tried that only i don't know how to find the pid since i don't find any process named cp :)
[21:41] <cyix> unavailable: relax.. most here are volunteer's, not your paid tech's.
[21:41] <dGodFatheR> what should i look for?
[21:41] <unavailable> so installing ubuntu onto a flash drive is stupid?
[21:41] <sealedwithakiss> How do I update my repositories?
[21:41] <phantomcircuit> unop, how about suggesting he stop being rude to people trying to help him?
[21:41] <redbox> dGodFatheR: cp? I thought you said you were using tar? ps aux | grep tar
[21:41] <Flannel> phantomcircuit: I just did.  Relax.
[21:42] <unop> phantomcircuit, whatever he does is no excuse for foul language.
[21:42] <dGodFatheR> redbox: my mistake
[21:42] <Flannel> unavailable: It's not stupid, but its certainly not something *everyone* use uses linux does or has experience with.
[21:42] <maligen> Hi
[21:42] <Fused> Okay. I reinstalled it, and then marked it for deletion, and it still won't remove itself.
[21:42] <dGodFatheR> stupid of me, probably why i didn't find it :)
[21:42] <unop> Fused, do you have a file at /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm  ?
[21:42] <Fused> Let me chck.
[21:43] <Babbleback> i thought that Pidgin would highlight messages directed at your username, but it didn't
[21:43] <Fused> Yes.
[21:43] <dGodFatheR> redbox: well i can't find any tar process either
[21:43] <unop> Fused, ok, let's have a look at it
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Babbleback: pidgin is horrible as an IRC client
[21:43] <unavailable> flannel understood, but one can also run into busybox problems without trying to install on a usb stick
[21:43] <maligen> Please, I have experience problem with Gutsy clock applet, cud any1 help me ?
[21:43] <travis> hello im trying to set up keys with a wacom bamboo fun.
[21:43] <Babbleback> Jordan_U: what irc client to do suggest
[21:43] <redbox> dGodFatheR: is the user still connected? you should be able to run 'w' and see what process they are running under the last column titled "WHAT"
[21:43] <compengi> maligen, just say your problem and we'd try managing it
[21:44] <unavailable> !initramfs
[21:44] <Flannel> unavailable: Yes, you can.  But again, its something that not everyone has dealt with, and certainly isn't some sort of metric for being able to help people.
[21:44] <unop> dGodFatheR, did you just press ctrl+z to send the job into the background ?
[21:44] <Guest10014> i'ts actially working but all keys do the same thing
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Babbleback: xchat
[21:44] <Babbleback> Jordan_U: ty
[21:44] <Guest10014> can someone help?
[21:44] <dGodFatheR> unop: yep, it doesn't work not responding to keystrokes
[21:44] <Fused> http://gpaste.com/p/9fe2d
[21:44] <unavailable> flannel, again understood and i WAS out of line but seriously, someone never heard of busybox?
[21:44] <yowshi1> how do you get a dvd writer unstuck. ubuntu seems to think that a dvd that hasnt bee in there for days is currently in the drive and i cant bget it to reset
[21:44] <Jordan_U> unavailable: How did you install to the USB stick?
[21:45] <unavailable> jordan_U http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/15/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/
[21:45] <unop> dGodFatheR, you should find the pid using the jobs command
[21:45] <dooglus> when I right-click a link in my terminal and select 'open link' in the context menu, it tells me: "Could not open the address "http://www.vpilf.com/":  There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location.".  how can I set the default action command?
[21:45] <maligen> well, I'm using gnome, and I upgraded a package called libtiff4 and after reboot I get an error: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet".
[21:45] <redbox> yowshi1: get a paper clip and put it in the little hole on the front of the dvd player to force it open
[21:45] <dGodFatheR> redbox: and i did make it verbose, i tar -cvvf it
[21:45] <yowshi1> redbox: the drive itself isnt stuck just ubuntu
[21:45] <Fused> unop: Is that what you meant by a look at it? (http://gpaste.com/p/9fe2d)
[21:46] <Flannel> unavailable: Some people haven't no.  I've never personally gotten a busybox.  Most people havent, which is a good thing.
[21:46] <travis_> hello im using a wacom bamboo fun tasbles and i cant configure buttons
[21:46] <redbox> yowshi1: what do you mean you can't "get it to reset"
[21:46] <unop> yowshi1, sudo eject /dev/dvd # perhaps?
[21:46] <dooglus> oh, I'm using XFCE4, but gnome-terminal - maybe that's the problem?
[21:46] <yowshi1> redbox: ubuntu wont let me use the drive because it thinks a dvd is in there already or something and wont reset it to read what is actually in the drive
[21:46] <Jordan_U> unavailable: Are you sure that you were in the "casper" directory when you ran steps 20 and 21 ?
[21:47] <travis____> Wacom Bamboo anyone?
[21:47] <dGodFatheR> unop: well since it's not responding i can't get pid, cant run jobs
[21:47] <unop> Fused, yes, indeed..  comment out the first line (prefixing #) .. save the file and attempt to purge that package
[21:47] <mysterycool> Hey
[21:47] <redbox> yowshi1: have you tested the cd/dvd that you're trying to read in another computer to make sure its actually good?
[21:47] <dashavoo> travis____, yes please, when will you send it?
[21:47] <dGodFatheR> well i am off to sleep will try again later on the weekend
[21:47] <unavailable> Jordan_U:  yep
[21:47] <unop> dGodFatheR, is this in a normal terminal ?
[21:47] <dGodFatheR> thanks
[21:47] <travis____> lol
[21:47] <dGodFatheR> yep
[21:47] <redbox> dGodFatheR: as I said, try to log in another session.
[21:47] <mysterycool> What is that program which is similar to Cairo-dock and allows me to have some kind of luncher just like in Mac OS X at the bottom?
[21:47] <travis____> i just want to configure it well
[21:47] <dGodFatheR> unop: it's a gnome-terminal
[21:47] <Fused> the set line?
[21:47] <dGodFatheR> redbox: i did, didn't find    a tar process
[21:47] <unop> dGodFatheR, hmm, maybe the terminal is hung .. do you use screen at all?
[21:48] <redbox> dGodFatheR: ps aux | grep gnome-terminal
[21:48] <unop> Fused, yes
[21:48] <dGodFatheR> unop: what do you mean?
[21:48] <redbox> dGodFatheR: kill the unresponsive one.
[21:48] <Yowshi> redbox: it is good it isnt the cd. normally when there isnt anything in the drive the drive should be labeled in the computer :/// folder as blank or cdrom or well you get the idea. it is staying labeled as the last dvd to be used
[21:49] <unavailable> Jordan_U:  i read and followed this    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/219192   but it didnt help
[21:49] <mysterycool> !cairo-dock
[21:49] <Fused> Okay..
[21:49] <Fused> And by purge, you mean?
[21:49] <mysterycool> !dock
[21:49] <unop> dGodFatheR, never mind.  if you used screen, you would know what it was.  are you able to close the gnome terminal now and start a new instance.?
[21:49] <Fused> As I said earlier, I'm not that experienced on Linux.
[21:49] <Fused> Just starting, really.
[21:49] <mysterycool> !mac osx -like dock
[21:49] <mysterycool> .
[21:49] <mysterycool> !aviant
[21:49] <unop> Fused, sudo aptitude install  #should do
[21:50] <Yowshi> redbox: going to try a dvd in the drive instead of cd see if that gets it to change
[21:50] <unavailable> !askthebot mysterycool
[21:50] <dGodFatheR> unop: yes did that a few times, it happens every time
[21:50] <unavailable> !askthebot | mysterycool
[21:50] <dGodFatheR> i tar the file
[21:50] <redbox> Yowshi: ah, I see.  are you using the latest ubuntu version/kernel?
[21:50] <mysterycool> oh, yes, sorry.
[21:50] <dGodFatheR> but i see the tar does hold a large part of the content it's supposed to
[21:50] <Fused> So just aptitude install?
[21:50] <unop> dGodFatheR, how do you use this command?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Yowshi: Can you successfully mount it with "sudo mount /dev/dvd /mnt" ?
[21:50] <unavailable> mysterycool:  you can /msg ubottu
[21:50] <unop> Fused, yes, just  sudo aptitude install
[21:50] <Fused> Alright. I did aptitude install.
[21:50] <Fused> Now try to remove it again?
[21:51] <Yowshi> Jordan_U: i wasnt sure what the /dev/ value was to give that a shot
[21:51] <unavailable> why are people using aptitude instead of apt-get?
[21:51] <redbox> dGodFatheR: fyi, for verbose with tar, you only need one -v flag
[21:51] <unop> Fused, well, if all went well, the package should be purged now
[21:51] <nnull> can exim recieve emails as well as send them
[21:51] <nnull> ?
[21:51] <unop> unavailable, personal preference i suppose
[21:51] <dGodFatheR> yep i know but i used the man example and it stuck
[21:51] <dGodFatheR> :)
[21:51] <Fused> Thanks, unop.
[21:51] <Fused> It's gone.
[21:51] <Fused> :)
[21:51] <unop> Fused, :)
[21:51] <slamFIST> unop: do you ever sleep?
[21:51] <Yowshi> Jordan_U: says special device /dev/dvd doesnt exist
[21:52] <slamFIST> i see you on here night and day
[21:52] <Fused> Who cares? He knows what he's talking about.
[21:52] <Fused> That's what this channel is for.
[21:52] <maligen> I'm using gnome, and after reboot I get an error: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". can some1 tell me anything about this error ? how to fix it ?
[21:52] <unavailable> unop i would guess youve been with linux a while longer than a while
[21:52] <unop> dGodFatheR,  heh. maybe you ought to revise how the command is used.  show us what you have exactly
[21:52] <maligen> I tried a lotta thing
[21:52] <maligen> nothing works
[21:52] <unop> slamFIST, i am not a bot .. :)
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Yowshi: try /dev/cdrom ( both are just symlinks to the same device anyway )
[21:52] <mohshami> hey guys, sometimes when I log in the gnome background and icons don't show up, when I restart gnome everything goes back to normal, any idea what's going on?
[21:52] <slamFIST> Fused: wasn't my intention to diss him in anyway CHILLAX
[21:52] <Fused> Now to see if my fluxbox will work again!
[21:52] <Fused> :D
[21:53] <Fused> slamFIST: I am chillaxed.
[21:53] <unop> unavailable, a couple of years
[21:53] <dGodFatheR> unop: what do you mean by show what i have exactly?
[21:53] <Yowshi> Jordan_U: special device /dev/cdrom doesnt exist
[21:53] <Jordan_U> mohshami: Probably nautilus not starting for some reason
[21:53] <slamFIST> i doubt that Fused
[21:53] <unop> dGodFatheR, in terms of the command you are using
[21:53] <Fused> I'm happy that I finally got that KDE bullshit to disappear.
[21:53] <unavailable> so no one knows how to make a usb stick boot to persistent hardy 8.04.1 correctly?
[21:53] <redbox> dGodFatheR: what command you are using to tar
[21:53] <Gnea> slamFIST: let it go.
[21:53] <Fused> Be right back.
[21:53] <mysterycool> what's that program similar to cairo-dock that allows me to have a mac-like dock at the bottom of my screen?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Yowshi: OK, insert a CD, then run the "mount" command and see what the device is
[21:53] <mohshami> Jordan_U: when I start it manually I just get a file manager window
[21:53] <Shitakeguy> O.O  Um..
[21:54] <unavailable> mysterycool whats wrong with cairo-dock
[21:54] <unavailable> ?
[21:54] <Shitakeguy> you want to run Linux like it's Mac OS?
[21:54] <redbox> mysterycool: you might be referring to awn, avant window manager
[21:54] <mamato> with gnome xchat, how do i deal with the "you need to be identified" thing for some channels?
[21:54] <Shitakeguy> ident
[21:54] <unavailable> mysterycool:  cairo-dock is faster than awn
[21:54] <mysterycool> unavailable: Well, I've got a lame graphics card and at all the docs, there is an annoying black background behind it like a rectangle
[21:54] <mohshami> Jordan_U: nothing shows in the logs
[21:54] <Jordan_U> !register | mamato
[21:54] <Fused> Finally. Fluxbox works again.
[21:54] <Yowshi> Jordan_U: it is /dev/scd0
[21:54] <Fused> :D
[21:54] <mysterycool> !awm
[21:54] <dGodFatheR> well, i used the tar -cvvf tarname.tar /dir/path/dirname
[21:54] <Flannel> !awn | mysterycool
[21:54] <dGodFatheR> unop:
[21:55] <Jordan_U> Yowshi: Ok, try that with to mount the DVD
[21:55] <unop> dGodFatheR, ok, that looks to be fine.  does the command give you any output before it hangs?
[21:55] <mysterycool> unavailable: Do you know a way to get rid of that stupid black rectangle? :S
[21:55] <unavailable> mysterycool:  and youve tried the background tab?
[21:55] <danyalo> how to go in another dick  ?
[21:55] <phj> wasn dalos
[21:55] <mysterycool> unavailable: Yes, it does not work :S
[21:55] <mrxmike> is it possible to specify the ssh password on the commandline?
[21:56] <lostsync> my session takes forever to start up...i've disabled everything nonessential (bluetooth, etc) but compiz, awn, pidgin, etc all get stuck for about 5 minutes after i log in
[21:56] <Yowshi> Jordan_U: must be the cd being bad. wierd it doesnt look bad. but it says i must specify the file type
[21:56] <dGodFatheR> unop: no, it hangs almost right away
[21:56] <lostsync> how can i track down what process is doing this?
[21:56] <guntbert> !de | phj
[21:56] <dGodFatheR> but it does seem like it does what it should since the tar is filled with the data it's supposed to. i just don't know if it's finished and everything is there or not
[21:56] <unavailable> mysterycool:  try making a transparent image in gimp
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Yowshi: Ahh, was this DVD burned with Vista?
[21:57] <Flannel> danyalo: What?
[21:57] <mysterycool> unavailable: Yes, then what?
[21:57] <unavailable> mysterycool:  and make that as your background image
[21:57] <mamato> Jordan_U: there's no way to have gnome-xchat deal with it once and for all, rather than reasking every 60 days?
[21:57] <lostsync> ive tried watching dmesg, /var/log/messages but no luck there
[21:57] <unavailable> in cairo-dock
[21:57] <unop> dGodFatheR, hmm.  do you have sufficient disk space to create the tarball?
[21:57] <dGodFatheR> unop: and also, i can't do other operations after that cause it hangs, the terminal is stuck
[21:57] <Yowshi> Jordan_U: no it was an old music cd i was given
[21:57] <mysterycool> unavailable: Ok, about how big? Like, 1x1?
[21:57] <dGodFatheR> mmmmmmm about 100 giga :)
[21:57] <compengi> mamato, reasking?
[21:57] <dGodFatheR> the tar should be a few mega
[21:57] <redbox> mrxmike: I don't think so, you'd have to use ssh keys
[21:57] <dGodFatheR> estimation though for sure it's not gigas
[21:57] <mrxmike> k thanks
[21:57] <unop> dGodFatheR, very strange..  does ctrl+a, q  have any effect by chance?
[21:57] <compengi> mamato, you are identifying to the server. what xchat-gnome has to do with this
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Yowshi: I thought you were trying to mount a DVD, you can't mount a music CD because it's not a real File System
[21:58] <mamato> compengi: don't you have to re-type the irc command every 60 days?
[21:58] <jtsigma> i installed my ubuntu server , using the default layout upon install where it created the appropriate LVM volumes for the first disk.   I had a 2nd disk in the system, which I wanted to use as a mirror for the first disk, but it didn't set that up automatically.
[21:58] <Yowshi> Jordan_U: no i am having [problems with a music cd. as in unlike other music cd's the thing wont read
[21:58] <jtsigma> is there a good writeup on mirroring the first disk (boot disk) using LVM?
[21:58] <dGodFatheR> unop: let me check
[21:58] <compengi> mamato, everytime you are connected to freenode you need to identify
[21:58] <unavailable> mysterycool:  shouldnt make a difference, it should stretch it
[21:58] <Flannel> jtsigma: /boot can't be in LVM
[21:59] <Shitakeguy> thanks guys!  time to finally go home.
[21:59] <Shitakeguy> kudos
[21:59] <mamato> compengi: hehe worse than i thought...
[21:59] <cilkay> Why would changing the login theme to "Human List" on 64 bit Hardy hang the machine? I logged out to see what it would look like and all I have is a black screen and the login prompt never appears and the machine is unresponsive to any attempt to login via ssh.
[21:59] <dGodFatheR> unop: no, nothing only the cursor is disappearing and reappears. no reaction
[21:59] <mamato> compengi: it's not possible to have xchat do it for me?
[21:59] <dGodFatheR> the terminal is like dead, i must close it
[21:59] <compengi> mamato, you can make it identify automatically every connect
[21:59] <antonio_> !lista
[21:59] <unop> dGodFatheR, and this happens only for tar?
[21:59] <unop> dGodFatheR, no other commands?
[21:59] <jtsigma> Flannel: ah i see.
[21:59] <ApOgEE-> is there any flickr uploader for ubuntu?
[22:00] <Osse> !NFS
[22:00] <jtsigma> Then I suppose is it possible to mirror JUST the "/" and not the "/boot", using LVM?
[22:00] <mysterycool> unavailable: It does not work :/
[22:00] <dGodFatheR> unop: NOOOOOO i said earlier, also for cp
[22:01] <mysterycool> unavailable: The background image is for the dock, there is nothing for that extra black thing! :S
[22:01] <dGodFatheR> it happens in heavy commands i guess that involve a lot of file work
[22:01] <redbox> dGodFatheR: as a test, can you try this: touch testfile ; tar -cvf testfile.tar testfile
[22:01] <dGodFatheR> lets see what happens if i tar one file
[22:01] <redbox> dGodFatheR: do you get an output?
[22:02] <nnull> any preload users here?
[22:02] <Flannel> jtsigma: You can have / in LVM (and everything else), just not /boot, and yes, you should be able to mirror with LVM
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:02] <nnull> hey ActionParsnip
[22:02] <davidstrauss> How can I force a dhcpd to send an option with DHCP client requests?
[22:02] <dGodFatheR> redbox: let me check those things
[22:02] <nnull> any preload users here?
[22:02] <ApOgEE-> firefox always turns grey when uploading to flickr
[22:02] <ApOgEE-> is there any flickr uploader for ubuntu?
[22:02] <redbox> ApOgEE-: yes
[22:02] <unop> dGodFatheR, hmm, maybe you should try another terminal emulator - something like xterm or rxvt
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> nnull: what is it?
[22:02] <redbox> ApOgEE-: there is a linux downloader available from the flickr website.
[22:03] <dGodFatheR> unop: why, is gnome-terminal not good?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> dGodFatheR: id suggest yakuake ;)
[22:03] <nnull> program for ubuntu, ment to like store ure programs in ram for quick access
[22:03] <nnull> ActionParsnip, ^
[22:03] <dGodFatheR> i will use Xterm in that case
[22:03] <redbox> dGodFatheR: gnome-terminal shouldn't be your issue.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> nnull: make a ramdisk
[22:03] <unop> davidstrauss, see the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file .. also  man dhclient.conf
[22:03] <redbox> dGodFatheR: can you try to copy/paste my command above?
[22:03] <nnull> whats that mate?
[22:03] <nnull> ActionParsnip, ^
[22:03] <davidstrauss> unop: wouldn't that be for configuring the DHCP client?
[22:03] <dGodFatheR> redbox: yes sec, it's in the remote
[22:03] <unavailable> mysterycool:  but there is AWN, http://www.kiba-dock.org/  but for kiba dock you need compiz, i dunno about awn
[22:03] <nnull> !ramdisk
[22:04] <NeB1> how can i boot windows from ubuntu ?
[22:04] <unop> dGodFatheR, well, i won't say it's good or bad .. the point is to try another emulator to rule out problems with gnome-terminal.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> nnull: you can mount a portion as ram as a hard drive and copy stuff to it at boot
[22:04] <mysterycool> unavailable: graphics card too lame to hold compiz :/
[22:04] <unavailable> aah
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> nnull: they access quick
[22:04] <unavailable> then you may have the same problem with all of em
[22:04] <dGodFatheR> redbox: well it worked for one file as i expected
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: kooldock is ok
[22:04] <nnull> ActionParsnip, oh i see, koz ive disabled trackerd and now ive got nothing to use my 2 gig of swap i pregave :x
[22:05] <unop> davidstrauss, i've misunderstood you.  do you want to set custom options or supported DHCP options?
[22:05] <barbarella> NeB1:take a look at  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:05] <spiritssight> can any one point me in to a direction for geting help with setup ubuntu to be a webserver?
[22:05] <mysterycool> actionparsnip: i download awn now i run it and nothing :/ it pops a window so fast that i can see nothing then it's gone :/
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> nnull: this is in RAM not on HDD
[22:05] <unop> davidstrauss, keep in mind that you can set an option, and the server will pass them with the lease to the client but the client can ignore or override them.
[22:05] <NeB1> barbarella: now what ?
[22:05] <redbox> dGodFatheR: then perhaps you're directory is just large for  both cp and tar, give it some time.
[22:05] <dGodFatheR> unop: well it's the same with xterm
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: run it from terminal, you should see an output
[22:05] <redbox> your*
[22:05] <ApOgEE-> redbox, my firefox seems freezing rite now
[22:06] <nnull> ActionParsnip, yea, but i was thinking is there a way to store like 2 gig of info in my swap that injects the programs into my ram at boot?
[22:06] <barbarella> NeB1:booting windows
[22:06] <dGodFatheR> redbox: but why isn't it responsive?
[22:06] <mysterycool> ActionParsnip: oh, perfect: /usr/share/cairo-dock/themes/_MacOSX_/_x_.bg.png.png
[22:06] <compengi> barbarella, he want's to boot windows from ubuntu, not a dual boot as i assume you thought
[22:06] <NeB1> barbarella: how ?
[22:06] <barbarella> NeB1:take a look at  /boot/grub/menu.lst frome line 39 till 42
[22:06] <mysterycool> oh sorry, wrong output
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> nnull: doesnt sound much faster than a normal execute
[22:06] <mysterycool> ActionParsnip: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[22:06] <nnull> hmm ok
[22:06] <masnick> Hilo, cud you help me with clock-applet (Gutsy, gnome) when I try to add it to the panel, I get this: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet"
[22:06] <redbox> dGodFatheR: not sure.  is the machine older/slow?
[22:06] <dpemmons> question: in a standard install, does cups run in a chroot jail?
[22:06] <unop> dGodFatheR, maybe redbox has a point .. try using your tar and cp commands on a different directory?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: then you need the horror of compiz installing
[22:07] <spiritssight> please PM me as the screen moves to fast for me to see as I am legally blind, looking ofr assistance on setup webserver on standed desktop setup
[22:07] <redbox> unop: he just did a tar on one file and it worked as expected.
[22:07] <nnull> ActionParsnip, wonder what this preload thing ive got installed is doing then lol, system seems faster tho whatever its doing hehe
[22:07] <mysterycool> ActionParsnip: How about kooldock?
[22:07] <NeB1> barbarella: can u just send me a menu.list ?
[22:07] <mysterycool> !kooldock
[22:07] <mysterycool> well it's in the repositories -_-
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: runs fine, its a kde ap so you'll need kde libs to run it
[22:07] <barbarella> NeB1:on what partition is your windows
[22:08] <mysterycool> ActionParsnip: ooh, shoot
[22:08] <compengi> NeB1, you want to install windows and ubuntu as dual boot on the same pc? or you want to install windows on ubuntu?
[22:08] <Jakob_the_liar> :q isnt closing vim
[22:08] <nnull> ActionParsnip, how do i know if i have a smtp server running and if i dont how to i enable it?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> nnull: i wouldnt question it if its working :D
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> nnull: ps -ef | grep smtp
[22:08] <lostsync> try :q!
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> !smtp
[22:08] <redbox> Jakob_the_liar: shift+zz will quit/save
[22:08] <nnull> ActionParsnip, im trying to make emails in my home network but not for internet
[22:08] <NeB1> compengi: i have windows, how do i just boot it from ubuntu ?
[22:08] <Flannel> spiritssight: /join #ubuntu-classroom it's low volume
[22:09] <redbox> Jakob_the_liar: q! will force quit with no save too.
[22:09] <Jakob_the_liar> didnt do anything redbox
[22:09] <nnull> !exim4
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> !exim
[22:09] <redbox> Jakob_the_liar: hitting z twice while holding shift?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> !find exim
[22:09] <mysterycool> ActionParsnip: Which libs?
[22:09] <Jakob_the_liar> neither did :q!
[22:09] <redbox> Jakob_the_liar: hit esc first.
[22:09] <compengi> NeB1, you can't boot operating system in another
[22:09] <Jakob_the_liar> ok thanks redbox
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: if you use repos itl install for you, depends how much bloat you like
[22:09] <barbarella> NeB1:with vmware you can
[22:10] <mysterycool> ActionParsnip: It wont work :/
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: you may need to add repos
[22:10] <compengi> NeB1, you can try using virtualbox and install windows on ubuntu
[22:10] <compengi> !virtualbox > NeB1
[22:11] <barbarella> NeB1:but i think you mean dual boot
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !kooldock | mysterycool
[22:11] <mysterycool> ActionParsnip: Oh, shoot, forget it, ill just go get a new graphics card, i wanted in ages to run compiz an i cant :/ ill get a new graphics card and throw this one in the fire :@
[22:11] <jtsigma> is it possible to mirror JUST the "/" and not the "/boot", using LVM?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: theres screenlets which are good
[22:11] <mysterycool> ?
[22:11] <compengi> barbarella, he has windows and he wants to start it through ubuntu as he says here "23:09 < NeB1> compengi: i have windows, how do i just boot it from ubuntu ?"
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> !screenlets | mysterycool
[22:12] <mysterycool> My graphics card can't take compiz :/
[22:12] <barbarella> compengi:don't think so
[22:12] <compengi> barbarella, although, not sure if he's expressing him self clear :)
[22:12] <NeB1> compengi: go check this file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:12] <mysterycool> How does cairo-dock stop? I right click the dock and type quit but it wont go! :S
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: theres a tonne of dock apps out there
[22:13] <barbarella> compengi:told him
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mysterycool: killall cairo-dock
[22:13] <compengi> NeB1, every grub menu.lst is different one from another :D
[22:13] <barbarella> NeB1:take a look at  /boot/grub/menu.lst frome line 39 till 42
[22:13] <k3rnelpanic> hey, could someone help me out with this. i was here yesterday and tried what was suggested and no go. im trying to upgrade to ubuntu 8.04 from 7.10 and 2 pkgs wont download
[22:14] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: which two?
[22:14] <k3rnelpanic> usplash and...
[22:14] <compengi> NeB1, could you please tell me. if you reboot ubuntu, can you boot back to windows?
[22:14] <k3rnelpanic> i can check can you hold on a sec?
[22:14] <k3rnelpanic> i tried different serves also
[22:14] <infinite> hello, i just installed ubuntu a few hours ago,rebooted a couple of time, everything went well till just now. When i log in a ~:.xsession-errors file shows up givin these details : /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[22:14] <infinite> Setting IM through im-switch for locale=it_IT.
[22:14] <infinite> Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.
[22:14] <infinite> /usr/bin/seahorse-agent: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:15] <compengi> infinite, please use pastebin
[22:15] <Osse> How do I block ALL users except two in smb.conf?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Osse: in smb.conf yuo can specify allowed users
[22:15] <NeB1> compengi:no
[22:16] <compengi> NeB1, aha.. so you want to make it work right?
[22:16] <odla> everytime i start up evolution it wants a password for my keyring ... except i never set a password and if i type my user passwd it tells me it's wrong.  how can i stop this from happening or how can i change this keyring passwd?
[22:16] <Osse> ActionParsnip - How does that work?
[22:16] <rhkfin> Anyone know the channel to discuss planet ubuntu issues?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> !samba | Osse
[22:16] <lyy> hello
[22:16] <barbarella> NeB1:on what partition is your windows
[22:16] <Flannel> rhkfin: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the first place to go.
[22:16] <Osse> ActionParsnip - I tried hosts deny 192.168.0
[22:16] <rhkfin> Flannel: thanks
[22:16] <Osse> Doesn't work =/
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> Osse: if you search round you'll find lotsa help
[22:16] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: 1 minute its coming up
[22:17] <lyy> is top still the best way to see how busy a system is and what process is eating up so much process time?
[22:17] <masnick> Hilo, cud you help me with clock-applet (Gutsy, gnome) when I try to add it to the panel, I get this: The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet"
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> lyy: run top in terminal
[22:17] <NeB1> barbarella: how do i check that ?
[22:18] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: alright
[22:18] <compengi> NeB1, sudo fdisk -l
[22:18] <barbarella> Osse:valid users =
[22:18] <lyy> ActionParsnip: the question was if top is still the best tool to use. not how to run it.
[22:18] <barbarella> Osse:valid users =
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> lyy: there is no "best"
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> lyy: in terminal type the word top and press enter
[22:18] <lyy> how about most up to date
[22:18] <compengi> NeB1, paste the output to barbarella in pastebin please
[22:18] <barbarella> NeB1:fdisk -l
[22:18] <Osse> barbarella - valid users = <IP_ADDRESS> = only allow that one?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> lyy: in linux the is no "best" anything
[22:19] <lyy> is there a "most used" ?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> lyy: they are all the most up to date
[22:19] <jrib> lyy: kind of depends on what you want to do.  Try ps (read the man page), top, and htop; choose the one you like the best
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> lyy: depends who you ask
[22:19] <barbarella> Osse:valid users = user1, user2
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> lyy: which is best, coke or pepsi?
[22:19] <barbarella> Osse:in smb.conf
[22:19] <lyy> that's what i say too
[22:19] <JabberWalkie> what is a good movie editor for ubuntu?
[22:19] <dGodFatheR> how do i change the font for the xterm terminal?
[22:19] <Osse> barbarella - Ah, thank you again =)
[22:19] <dGodFatheR> i want it larger
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> lyy: neither is better
[22:19] <NeB1> barbarella: patation 2
[22:19] <lyy> just preparing for an interview
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> lyy: i personally recommend top
[22:19] <dGodFatheR> maybe even different
[22:20] <lyy> and seeing if my knowledge is still up to date
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> lyy: websearch to improve knowledge
[22:20] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: would you know where the pkgs get downloaded to when upgrading?
[22:20] <lyy> tried it.. no hits
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> lyy: top will do you
[22:20] <lyy> thanks ActionParsnip
[22:21] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: packages are downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives/ but that isn't relelvant, you shouldn't need to do any manual package...stuff.
[22:21] <lyy> ActionParsnip:  you know a thing or two about troubleshooting ethernet interfaces?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> lyy: in what sense
[22:21] <barbarella> NeB1:can you still pastebin the output of fdisk -l to be sure?
[22:22] <infinite> i'm unable to login, i get an Xsession error file : /usr/bin/seahorse-agent: error while loading shared libraries: libasound.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.What should i do?Thanks in advance
[22:22] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: yea i know but maybe thinking i can download those from somewhere else and put them there. cause the servers wont let me download them.
[22:23] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: What are the errors you get?
[22:23] <DavidCanarias> I use firefox and Java for some chat lines. Does anyone know why some text appears in gibberish, is it a font problem??
[22:23] <lyy> ActionParsnip: i got a question on how to determine if an ethernet interface was bad and causing garbage on the network?
[22:23] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: i dont get errors, it hangs on those 2 packages. and downloading stops. i then cancel and it tells me they couldnt be fetched. i've left it on half the night and they didnt download. together they are like 700kb only
[22:24] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: Which packages? and do you have any third party repos enabled?
[22:24] <k3rnelpanic> i do have 3rd party enabled, im pretty sure, i'll check
[22:24] <lyy> How would you determine if an ethernet interface was bad and causing garbage on the network?
[22:25] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: yea under software sources i got 3rd party software both boxes checked
[22:26] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: alright, it's possible that those are the causes of this issue. Uncheck them and see if that helps.
[22:26] <DavidCanarias> I'm having problems with gibberish text in some internet chat lines. Anybody know why? Could it be a font problem?
[22:27] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: ok i'll try it now. im using the ca.ubuntu server
[22:27] <ray__> how i compiled xmms in ubuntu 8.04 how i remove it i didnt install it sudo remove dont work and its 1.2 and not showing in synaptic packege maninger what i di?
[22:27] <ray__> di=do
[22:27] <ray__> to remove it
[22:28] <ray__> looked on inter no infro
[22:28] <Flannel> ray__: Packages you compile and/or install manually will never show up in package management.  The only way to remove it is to remove the files it installed.  Do you still have the make file?
[22:28] <ray__> flannel not sure
[22:28] <ray__> can get it thow
[22:28] <Flannel> ray__: Do you still have ths source, etc?
[22:28] <Flannel> or did you delete it
[22:29] <davidstrauss> Is there a way to get old Edgy packages?
[22:29] <ray__> flannle i did what web site told me them told me to remove the build folder
[22:30] <ray__> flannle i foled this site http://blog.sartek.net/2008/04/install-xmms-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[22:30] <ray__> how i remove it now
[22:31] <meoblast001> how do i get java to work online?
[22:31] <ray__> flannel i did what told ,e on this site http://blog.sartek.net/2008/04/install-xmms-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[22:31] <ehtom> how do I get the source for the *currently running* kernel?
[22:31] <Flannel> ray__: that... guide is wrong.  And unfortunately it's wrong in the worst way possible for removing.  You should be compiling things to /usr/local/ not /usr/  But, *try* downloading the source again, and *hope* the makefile has a make uninstall or make remove.
[22:31] <compengi> ehtom, you can get it in kernel.org website
[22:32] <Flannel> !kernel | ehtom
[22:32] <meoblast001> Applet classes/VncViewer notinited
[22:32] <meoblast001> what does that mean
[22:32] <Flannel> ehtom: that page explains how to get the source from git
[22:32] <ehtom> yeah
[22:32] <ehtom> but the git source, iirc, is the development source
[22:32] <ray__> flannel if dont then what i do
[22:32] <ehtom> not the currently running source?
[22:32] <ray__> dont think it dose
[22:32] <ehtom> or am I incorrect
[22:32] <jrib> ehtom: that site should also tell you about 'apt-get source PACKAGE'
[22:33] <jrib> ehtom: actually, there are linux-source* packages too
[22:33] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: hmm seems to have stopped again with 1165 of 1167 pkgs downloaded :-/
[22:33] <compengi> meoblast001, you need to install java plugin for firefox
[22:33] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel, i can cancel and tell you what they are
[22:33] <meoblast001> compengi: i did
[22:33] <Flannel> ray__: Run that thing again up through step 3 (so make, but *not* make install) and then look at the files in your make, and then remove each of those files from your filesystem (not the ones in your make, although you can remove those too)
[22:33] <compengi> meoblast001, and/
[22:34] <ehtom> jrib: ok. do those sources include the ubuntu specific modifications and patches?
[22:34] <Flannel> ray__: Lots of manual file deletions.  This is why we use package management, because it means we don't have to waste time doing this.
[22:34] <chino> is there a 64 bit linux ?
[22:34] <jrib> ehtom: yes
[22:34] <chino> i mean ubuntu
[22:34] <ray__> flannel were i del it from
[22:34] <Firebirdy> Gimp question: 'Feather' should be in the 'Select' menu according to the official documentation... but it's not in there. Any ideas?
[22:34] <jrib> ehtom: read the description :)
[22:34] <meoblast001> chino: hes
[22:34] <masnic1> hi, cud some1 help me with gnome and clock-applet ? I get this error : The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet"
[22:34] <chino> meoblast001:  is the fglx driver for ati only for 32 bit ?
[22:35] <ehtom> jrib: there is no linux-source-2.6.24-19-xen, so I have to use apt-get source :P
[22:35] <compengi> chino, sure. read the topic how to get it
[22:35] <Flannel> ray__: You'll see files in your made thing, those will correspond to paths in your actual filesystem.  all "make install" does is copies them.  You'll see once you're looking at it.
[22:35] <jrib> ehtom: fair enough
[22:35] <meoblast001> chino: dont know.. but i do know that the Adobe Flash Player is 32-bit only so you would need 32-bit firefox forced if you wanted that
[22:35] <k3rnelpanic> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/usplash-theme-ubuntu/usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.18_i386.deb
[22:35] <k3rnelpanic> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/brasero/brasero_0.7.1-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[22:35] <Fused> compengi: Can you explain why I can see my underscore (_) on XChat, but not in Pidgin?
[22:35] <Fused> O_o;
[22:35] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: those are the 2
[22:35] <jrib> meoblast001: no you don't.  flashplugin-nonfree will install fine on 64bit (it uses nspluginwrapper)
[22:36] <ray__> flannel is there comman use to remove itd i can
[22:36] <Fused> Also, the links look like they're using <sub></sub> tag with every .
[22:36] <ray__> i know it made its own foder
[22:36] <Flannel> ray__: Nothing automated, no.
[22:36] <masnic1> omg, it's so annoying that I don't even have a damn clock, what the hack is goin on ?
[22:36] <chino> well is it even possible to load a driver compiled for 32 bit linux ?
[22:36] <Flannel> ray__: It doesn't make its own folder, it throws stuff all over.  some stuff in /usr/bin some stuff in /usr/lib some in /usr/share, etc.
[22:36] <compengi> Fused, could be that pidgin handels it another way
[22:37] <Fused> Hm..
[22:37] <compengi> Fused, try asking in #pidgin
[22:37] <Fused> OKay.
[22:37] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: sure, you could try downloading them manually.
[22:37] <k3rnelpanic> Flannel: when i go and try and download it from firefox, it doesnt download either with that address but says its there
[22:37] <k3rnelpanic> i am now
[22:37] <k3rnelpanic> just says starting download in the downloads window
[22:38] <cyix> !ndsi
[22:38] <k3rnelpanic> weird, freaking weird
[22:38] <Flannel> k3rnelpanic: Try changing your mirror, from ca, although I can download them fine.  In your browser, take that URL and remove the ca. from it (so http://archive.ubuntu.com....)
[22:38] <score> in an ubuntu install, where does the admin group come from? what package or process creates it?
[22:38] <ray__> flannel im getting permision err
[22:39] <ray__> how i open it
[22:39] <spsneo> best download accelerator for ubuntu ?
[22:39] <Flannel> ray__: Open what?
[22:39] <jrib> spsneo: axel
[22:39] <compengi> score, admin group is by default
[22:39] <ray__> xmml in trash
[22:39] <ray__> will not also me to dew to permition err
[22:39] <compengi> score, your nick goes to that nick
[22:39] <spsneo> jrib: but it doesnt support proxy authorization
[22:39] <spsneo> jrib: does it?
[22:39] <k3rnelpanic> yup i did, still no go lol
[22:39] <compengi> score, to that group*
[22:39] <score> compengi: i just did a deboostrap and it isn't there
[22:40] <Durayne> hi
[22:40] <jrib> score: I don't know.  Did you try?
[22:40] <Flannel> ray__: You need higher permissions to do it.  If you insist on using the GUI, alt-f2 then gksu nautilus, and be *extremely* careful and close the window as soon as you're done.
[22:40] <mirrorcolor> guys, i am having audio problems with clips recorded by gtk-recordMyDesktop, there is always audio loss in those clips, any idea?
[22:40] <k3rnelpanic> is there a way you or someone could upload them somewhere or email them to me?
[22:40] <score> jrib: did i try what?
[22:40] <k3rnelpanic> i can give you my email if you want
[22:41] <DOT3CH> anyone know why gnomefiles.org is some other site now?
[22:41] <glitsj16> k3rnelpanic: have you tried getting those packages from packages.ubuntu.com ?
[22:41] <jrib> score: ignore me :/
[22:41] <cyix> when I boot up, grub shows all  the kernal's I can use, all older versions I have upgraded from. how can I clean these out?
[22:41] <jrib> spsneo: I don't know.  Did you try?
[22:41] <ray__> flannle im searching for it
[22:41] <k3rnelpanic> glitsj16: i'll try 1 sec
[22:41] <spsneo> jrib: it supports proxy but not authorization
[22:41] <Eftarjin> hi
[22:41] <spsneo> best download accelerator for ubuntu which supports http proxy?
[22:41] <Durayne> on permission-problems i usually use the sledge chmod -c 777 xD
[22:41] <score> jrib: what's your problem?
[22:41] <k3rnelpanic> says not found
[22:42] <jrib> score: was helping spsneo
[22:42] <score> spsneo: maybe aria?
[22:42] <jrib> spsneo: how did you determine that?
[22:42] <score> jrib: you said the same thing to me.
[22:42] <jrib> score: because your name starts with an 's'...
[22:42] <spsneo> jrib: I tried here
[22:42] <ray__> fannel can you pm or im me werwe thay are text scrolls to much for me to getit so can remove the files
[22:42] <score> jrib: oh, maybe you need to be more specific than the first char with your auto comp
[22:42] <glitsj16> k3rnelpanic: are you on hardy (8.04) ?
[22:43] <lyy> How would you determine if an ethernet interface was bad and causing garbage on the network?
[22:43] <jrib> score: too lazy :)
[22:43] <k3rnelpanic> nope on 7.10 upgrading to hardy
[22:43] <compengi> hehe
[22:43] <k3rnelpanic> or trying to, need 2 pkgs, those 2
[22:43] <Flannel> ray__: What?
[22:43] <jrib> spsneo: how did you try?
[22:43] <k3rnelpanic> and they wont download, all the other 1000+ were fine
[22:43] <Eftarjin> nautilus gives slow (~3 MB/s) file transfers from a SATA disk to another, while hdparm -t gives correct perfs (60~80 MB/s) ... what could be the problem ?
[22:43] <spsneo> how means?
[22:43] <glitsj16> k3rnelpanic: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/usplash should be there, i missed the other package you wanted ..
[22:44] <ray__> fannel can you whisper me were file when so can del it twxt scrolls to much for me to copy were you sed
[22:44] <Flannel> ray__: alt-f2 then gksu nautilus, and be *very* *extremely* careful, and close that window as soon as you're done
[22:44] <Durayne> Can someone help me with a minor lan/internet problem?
[22:44] <ray__> im in there were did it put it
[22:44] <ray__> im in user bin were eles do i look
[22:45] <chino> do the repos have packages for 64bit just as much as it does for 32 bit /
[22:45] <ray__> got xmms out in user bin
[22:45] <Flannel> ray__: Check the folder created when you make it, and those will correspond to places in your filesystem.
[22:45] <k3rnelpanic> ok gonna try that
[22:45] <Flannel> chino: yes
[22:46] <glitsj16> k3rnelpanic: look at the bottom of that page, it'll give you the option of 64/32 bit version
[22:46] <taishi28012> I'm having a problem setting up mpd/ncmpc.  I run "mpd --create-db" and it all goes good but when I fire up ncmpc there is nothing in the browse buffer.
[22:46] <chino> how do i know if someone speced out my laptop for working in ubuntu ? like all the buttosn and video card ands hit ?
[22:47] <ray__> flannel i did this ray__: It doesn't make its own folder, it throws stuff all over.  some stuff in /usr/bin some stuff in /usr/lib some in /usr/share, etc.
[22:47] <ray__> what told me i scrolled up
[22:47] <ray__> how i entey trash
[22:47] <Flannel> ray__: You deleted everything in /usr/bin and everything in /usr/lib?
[22:47] <ray__> yes
[22:47] <barbarella> Durayne:just ask
[22:48] <ray__> fannel can i install xmm2
[22:48] <ray__> the new one
[22:48] <pimpy_> hi there
[22:48] <finux> hey which line do i have to add to sudoers to run the
[22:48] <Flannel> ray__: Do you see anything in /usr/bin/ ?
[22:48] <Fused> compengi: They're saying it's a font problem.
[22:48] <finux> a command
[22:48] <unfo> pimpy_: hi.  if you want support, just ask everyone your question
[22:48] <pimpy_> is alpha5 downloable somewhere ?
[22:48] <compengi> Fused, oh. can't be fixed?
[22:49] <k3rnelpanic> glitsj16: this is the one its looking for http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/usplash-theme-ubuntu
[22:49] <pimpy_> thanks for the welcome
[22:49] <Flannel> pimpy_: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support
[22:49] <Fused> I don't know.
[22:49] <pimpy_> thanks
[22:49] <bonez46> is it possible to scan multipage documents using xsane?
[22:49] <Fused> I don't know how to do anything with fonts.
[22:49] <bonez46> where could I find xsane help?
[22:49] <Durayne> okay
[22:49] <taishi28012> chino: Do you mean how do you get multimedia buttons, suspend/hibernate stuff working?
[22:49] <compengi> Fused, well.. try to ask them what to do
[22:49] <glitsj16> k3rnelpanic: ow i misunderstood, thought you wanted the gutsy version .. did it download ?
[22:50] <ray__> flannel just xmm2 stuff
[22:50] <ray__> is xmm2 ok to have is that newer than xmms
[22:50] <Flannel> ray__: xmms2 is in the repositories.  Use synaptic to install.
[22:50] <ray__> one site needs it
[22:50] <chino> taishi28012:  yes i'm wondering i mean they appear to just be working.... and i know someone has to write a profile to make this all work right/ then ubuntu boots and picsk a profile by detecting
[22:50] <ray__> flannle is that newer than xmms2
[22:50] <Durayne> My Version 8.04 my Motherboard m3a with an Atheros L1 Lan Chip, Ubuntu sometimes recognizes my network card and sometimes it doesnt
[22:50] <ray__> should i get all xmm2 stuff from synaptic
[22:50] <ray__> for xmm2