[06:48] <jchittum> samy1028b : on the `ua status` bit. The Ubuntu FIPS vm comes pre-installed with everything. However, `ua` still attempts to install FIPS packages, and presents the message. This can be considered a UX bug
[06:48] <jchittum> and I agree that packages should get "smarter" about FIPS within the Ubuntu ecosystem. that will be a large community effort
[06:56] <samy1028b> jchittum : yes, though things like this which become broken by default should probably be addressed first.
[06:57] <samy1028b> Unfortunately, many of the help items on Stackoverflow are rather poor, as are several other help sites out there.  The common recommendation is to disable TLS and disable FIPS and then bingo, it magically starts working, with zero security.
[06:57] <samy1028b> but at least people should find this bug now for better information
[07:00] <jchittum> agreed on all above. We (the Canonical Public Cloud team, the team that makes the FIPS image) need to help create better documentation around using the FIPS images, along with common tutorials (like installing mysql on top)
[07:12] <samy1028b> jchittum : I also have an Ubuntu 18.04 FIPS with MySQL that loads just fine with TLS.  Just an additional data point for you.
[07:23] <jchittum> samy1028b : that's really helpful. installing `mysql` from the Ubuntu archive on both? In which case, there may be a packaging difference between `mysql 8.0` and `mysql 5.7`
[07:25] <samy1028b> jchittum : yes, installing MySQL from the Ubuntu repository.
[07:26] <samy1028b> Also, I have an ubuntu 18.04 FIPS in both Azure and AWS with MySQL working just fine with TLS.
[07:28] <samy1028b> In our Ansible deployment script we have it do an "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade" in a couple spots to ensure we have the latest version of packages before installing.
[07:28] <samy1028b> and then it simply does an "apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client" at that point
[07:29] <samy1028b> actually, come to think about it, I think it breaks down the LAMP package in Ansible and deploys each part of the LAMP stack, which obviously includes MySQL.
[07:29] <jchittum> great. I'm going to add that to the bug report. It'll help the maintainers dig in more for diffs
[07:34] <samy1028b> jchittum, this is the relevant part of our Ansible script:  https://pastebin.com/dejxMdmd
[07:44] <samy1028b> hmm, here's an odd thing.  With MySQL 8.0 "SHOW VARIABLES LIKE '%fips%';", I get ssl_fips_mode=off.  on MySQL 5.7 on 18.04 I get no results at all.  Any idea if it's not even a FIPS type package in MySQL 5.7 or does it just report differently?
[07:44] <samy1028b> btw, I just grabbed the following information for it also:  https://pastebin.com/6X2mWQSV
[07:44] <samy1028b> "apt-cache policy mysql-server"
[07:51] <jchittum> judging from the mysql 5.7 docs, it does not appear to have FIPS support
[07:54] <jchittum> which isn't to say that it cannot be FIPS compliant. The 8.0 documentation states that mysql itself doesn't have any FIPS specific code
[07:54] <jchittum> so it's passing off everything to OpenSSL. so it'd fall to configuration of OpenSSL (which with the FIPS versions is set properly) and configuration of the mysql server to use TLS, etc.
[07:55] <jchittum> a lot of settings can be done manually, but it looks like mysql 5.7 doesn't have a handy wrapper for FIPS to set everything.
[07:57] <samy1028b> ahh, that makes sense
[07:58] <samy1028b> Yeah, trying to figure out things with FIPS takes a whole other level sometimes. :)
[07:59] <samy1028b> Well, I'm off to sleep now. it's 4am. :)
[12:10] <ahasenack> morning
[12:26] <ahasenack> samy1028b: hi, I did another fresh azure deploy to check on your other report, that `ua status` was asking you to reboot, but couldn't confirm that
[12:27] <ahasenack> I saw that right after deploy `ua` was still installing packages, and I had a `NOTICE` in `ua status` output, but it eventually went away, and there was no ask for a reboot
[12:27] <ahasenack> I used:
[12:27] <ahasenack> $ cat /etc/cloud/build.info
[12:27] <ahasenack> build_name: pro-fips-server
[12:27] <ahasenack> serial: 20220429
[12:27] <ahasenack> maybe you enabled fips-updates at some point? That might require a reboot
[12:27] <ahasenack> because it changes the kernel iirc
[12:49] <ahasenack> when I log in on a jammy vm, the sysinfo load information is, erm, precise
[12:49] <ahasenack>   System load:  0.44482421875     Processes:               120
[13:16] <patdk-lap> needs to be these days of 64core cpu's :)
[13:40] <ahasenack> I'm accepting donations of such hardware to test this
[13:42] <patdk-lap> :)
[14:54] <samy1028b> Good morning ahasenack,  cat /etc/cloud/build.info
[14:54] <samy1028b> build_name: pro-fips-server
[14:54] <samy1028b>  serial: 20220215.1
[14:55] <samy1028b> I haven't rebooted it, but I can see if what happens then.
[14:55] <ahasenack> interesting, it's an older image
[14:55] <ahasenack> all that's left to investigate is that warning you got that you should reboot, which I couldn't reproduce with mine
[14:59] <samy1028b> yeah, it's still saying this:
[14:59] <samy1028b> NOTICES
[14:59] <samy1028b> Reboot to FIPS kernel required
[15:00] <samy1028b> I'll reboot now and see what happens.
[15:04] <ahasenack> it should work, but I would like to understand why you got that
[15:04] <ahasenack> samy1028b: did you enable fips-updates by any chance?
[15:05] <samy1028b> https://pastebin.com/1YQp7tUC
[15:05] <ahasenack> and compare the running kernel, with the one you would reboot into (if you haven't rebooted yet)
[15:05] <samy1028b> I think my tech tried at one point
[15:05] <samy1028b> I just rebooted and then ran these commands
[15:06] <ahasenack> samy1028b: and /run/reboot.<tab><tab>?
[15:06] <ahasenack> contents
[15:06] <ahasenack> I think it's reboot-required.pkgs
[15:08] <samy1028b> root@temp-test-01:~# ls -alhtr /run/reboot*
[15:08] <samy1028b>    ls: cannot access '/run/reboot*': No such file or directory
[15:08] <ahasenack> ah, you rebooted already
[15:08] <ahasenack> then it's gone
[15:13] <samy1028b> I checked on my production VM and it's showing the same information
[15:14] <samy1028b> looks like I'd rebooted that one at some point also.
[15:16] <ahasenack> after the reboot, ua status is still asking for a reboot?
[15:48] <patdk-lap> is there something special needed to use initramfs modules in arm64?
[15:48] <patdk-lap> just adding to /etc/initramfs/modules and rebuilding didn't include them, and the modules file didn't exist like on other archs
[15:58] <sdeziel> patdk-lap: here (on 20.04, amd64), the directory is /etc/initramfs-tools
[16:00] <samy1028b> ahasenack, yes, after reboot "ua status" still shows NOTICES
[16:00] <samy1028b> Reboot to FIPS kernel required
[16:22] <patdk-lap> odd, I wonder why I have two, initramfs and initramfs-tools
[16:22] <patdk-lap> never seen initramfs before and didn't notice
[17:35] <lucasmoura> hi samy1028b, can you inform us the output of ua version and ua status please ? So I can test an idea here
[18:10] <ahasenack> lucasmoura: some of that is here: https://pastebin.com/1YQp7tUC
[18:13] <samy1028b> root@temp-test-01:~# ua version
[18:13] <samy1028b> 27.7~20.04.1
[18:54] <lucasmoura_> samy1028b, it seems that this is indeed a bug. Can you please report all the steps you used to land on this issue on our bugs page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+bugs
[19:07] <samy1028b> lucasmoura : ahasenack created a bug already which lists the equivalent steps for the initial problem:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-8.0/+bug/1971788   Are you asking to create a new ticket on the "ua status" showing reboot required?
[19:07] <ahasenack> yes, these are different bugs
[19:09] <samy1028b> ahh, ok.  I'll have one of the team here document the steps and create an account there to report it.
[20:29] <samy1028b> ahasenack, lucasmoura,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+bug/1972026
[20:29] <samy1028b> how does this look?
[20:30]  * ahasenack checks
[20:31] <ahasenack> samy1028b: looks good, thanks
[20:31] <ahasenack> samy1028b: lucas may ask for some data or files, but this is excellent, thanks for taking the time to fill it out
[20:34] <samy1028b> our pleasure.  We do a lot of this internally for our products and services.  We don't often submit something to a project like this though.
[20:35] <samy1028b> And thank you very much for helping us figure out the MySQL FIPS issue yesterday.  This weekend we'll be doing some updates to our scripts to ensure they connect properly once we enable FIPS mode MySQL on the 20.04 production VM.
[20:50] <lucasmoura> samy1028b, thanks for opening that bug. I will try to reproduce the error and come up with solution for it


[00:01] <Laney> walters: that version already is in karmic
[00:16] <walters> Laney: ah, ok, thanks
[01:14] <Ampelbein> chrisccoulson: there? you asked about my gnome-nettool issue: no, it did not get resolved... I linked my changed branch to bug 400016, if you like, please have a look.
[14:43] <chrisccoulson> hi walters - you there?
[14:45] <walters> chrisccoulson: yep
[14:46] <chrisccoulson> hi, jens asked me to commit the patch at gnome bug 573980 - but I'm assuming I need a GIT account to do that don't i?
[14:47] <walters> chrisccoulson: yes, i can do it for you; but can you do a patch in git-am format with a commit message
[14:47] <chrisccoulson> i can have a go. i'm still learning git at the moment ;)
[14:48] <walters> chrisccoulson: easiest is git commit -a, then write, then do git format-patch HEAD^
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> thanks:)
[14:49] <chrisccoulson> walters - do you want me to attach the patch to the bug report?
[14:50] <walters> chrisccoulson: if you like, or just pastebin
[14:51] <chrisccoulson> walters - it's at http://paste.ubuntu.com/221951/
[14:53] <walters> hm, i get  an error trying to download it as text
[14:53] <walters> "Plain form not allowed for Web scripts"
[14:54] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, yeah, me too
[14:55] <chrisccoulson> walters - http://pastebin.com/m6195a72f seems to work better
[14:55] <chrisccoulson> must be a bug with paste.ubuntu.com ;)
[15:01] <walters> chrisccoulson: ok, doing a test build etc then i'll push
[15:01] <chrisccoulson> walters - thanks:)
[15:09] <walters> blah, my xklavier isn't new enough
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> ah, yeah, that is a bit of a pain
[15:12] <chrisccoulson> we're running the latest libxklavier in ubuntu now
[15:20] <walters> chrisccoulson: ok, builds fine; tweaked the commit message a bit and pushed, thanks a lot for the work!
[15:20] <chrisccoulson> walters - thanks. i'll send a mail out to gnome-i18n shortly, as requested by jens
[15:29] <didrocks> does someone knows if it is possible to use some apt pinning magic for source package?
[15:39] <geser> why do you need that?
[15:40] <didrocks> geser: to be able to download easily either a source package from debian or from ubuntu
[15:41] <didrocks> apt-get source by default for ubuntu package, et then apt-get source -t unstable for debian when needed
[15:44] <didrocks> geser: any thought?
[15:45] <geser> no, looking at the apt_preferences manpage it doesn't indicate that it works on source packages at all
[15:46] <geser> and having several deb-src lines won't work if Debian has a newer version to fetch the one from Ubuntu by default
[15:47] <didrocks> geser: yes, that's why I was thinking about pinning to be able to download them directly
[15:47] <didrocks> but apt_preferences didn't helped me too
[15:47] <didrocks> help*
[15:52] <geser> write small scripts or aliases to pass -t karmic or -t unstable as needed. something like (untested) "alias karmic-source=apt-get source -t karmic" and "alias unstable-source=apt-get source -t unstable"
[15:56] <didrocks> geser: as previously said, -t karmic or -t unstable  doesn't work either
[15:56] <geser> crap
[15:56] <didrocks> yes :/
[15:56] <didrocks> I'm pretty sure there is a solution, some people there may use something similar
[16:13] <Laney> use pull-lp-source and pull-debian-source?
[17:10] <hyperair> is gdm supposed to run /etc/X11/Xsession, or otherwise, the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d?
[17:10]  * hyperair pokes pitti
[17:11] <hyperair> my seahorse-agent isn't running
[17:12] <geser> hyperair: I already noticed this too -> bug 401201
[17:13] <hyperair> ah. i see.
[22:56] <chrisccoulson> hi Ampelbein - i took a glance at your gnome-nettool update earlier. I couldn't see anything obviously wrong though :-/
[22:56] <chrisccoulson> i'll take another look if i get a chance later
[22:56] <Ampelbein> chrisccoulson: thanks for looking. I'm really stuck with it...
[22:56] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it's a really difficult one
[22:57] <Ampelbein> chrisccoulson: the problem seems to be that the GtkUIBuilder is only used in the .ui file and not in the main.c-file and I could not find any example of another package where the same situation is.
[22:58] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it seems that it embeds a GtkUIManager object within the GtkBuilder


[03:39] <danny_> hello
[03:43] <ouroumov> yo danny_
[03:43] <danny_> hello ouroururourururmov
[03:44] <danny_> I just found this thing, what is it used for usually?
[03:44] <ouroumov> What thing, the chatroom?
[03:45] <danny_> Yeah, irc chat I think its called, I'm using hexchat
[03:45] <ouroumov> Well the reason HexChat is installed is mostly for support
[03:46] <ouroumov> If some new user want help but don't wanna register on the forum or don't have time to wait for an answer through the forum
[03:46] <danny_> Thats nice
[03:46] <danny_> I like that
[03:46] <danny_> I have many problems too, but they can wait
[03:46] <danny_> I must sleep
[03:46] <danny_> thank you
[03:46] <ouroumov> good night ~
[06:47] <manish_> hi
[06:48] <manish_> i am having problem
[06:49] <manish_> when my system gets boots up
[06:49] <manish_> hey
[06:49] <manish_> please help me
[06:52] <manish_> hello
[06:52] <manish_> please help
[10:01] <mate|93449> HI anyone know how I can find the remote desktop preferences - I can't access the desktop and there's no link in the preferences
[10:02] <mate|93449> I'm trying to access on pi through vnc
[10:05] <pavlushka> mate|93449: I used Remmina for that purpose, and used sftpd for quicki
[10:18] <mate|39609> Hi. Can someone help me with a remote desktop issue?
[10:41] <mate|39609> Hi. Is anyone here?
[10:45] <mate|39609> Thanks for all the no help . Deleting OS
 Hi. Is anyone here?
 Thanks for all the no help . Deleting OS
[11:40] <az> lol
[11:40] <az> in less than 5 minutes
[12:23] <ericb2> hello
[12:26] <mate|76665> Hi. I am unable to locate the desktop sharing - remote desktop section in preferences. Any one know where it is?
[12:26] <mate|76665> I have asked this question here a few times but no one cares. I guess this is not a real IRC
[12:52] <ericb2> Hello, I'm using rasberry pi3+ with mate and I got some feedback to provide. Is it the best place or shall i join another channel... ?
[13:09] <hibrido> ola
[13:09] <hibrido> donde esta el buscador de ubuntu mate?
[13:10] <hibrido> el centro de sofware para ser mas esactos
[13:11] <hibrido> no contesta nadie?
[13:14] <teward> ericb2: you can make feedback here, but it would probably be better suited for the community site - https://ubuntu-mate.community/ - under thoughts and feedback
[13:14] <teward> (in my opinion, note I"m not affiliated with the MATE team :)
[13:17] <ericb2> teward, in fact, I'm developer, and I'm testing several things, like the recent brand new built OOo4Kids running perfectly on RPi3+
[13:17] <teward> ericb2: note i'm not affiliated with the MATE team ;)
[13:17] <ericb2> this is a light version of OpenOffice.org I forked some time ago. Say half size as install set, no jaythelinuxguyva at all (python only), and faster
[13:17]  * teward doesn't triage your feedback
[13:18]  * ericb2 noted
[13:18] <ericb2> jaythelinuxguy, sorry, completion striked :-)
[13:19] <ericb2> I wanted to write no java
[14:03] <mate|93449> Still hoping for a response of some kind to my question. All I got was  a nasty remark. I've only been asking for a few hours.
[14:04] <mate|93449> This is the most hopeless IRC I've ever joined. It's supposed to be a place where questions specific to Mate can be asked.
[14:05] <mate|93449> Booo hisss. Mate sux.
[14:06] <mate|93449> see ya . Thanls fpr nothing
[19:36] <pgoetz> Just installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 on a Lenovo Z575 laptop.  Everything was fine until I ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade, and now I just get a black screen.  Anyone run into this?
[19:55] <pgoetz> Never mind.  Just booted Arch to see what
[19:55] <pgoetz> what's going on and one of the CPU cores apears to be malfunctioning.
[20:51] <lr084> hallo
[20:51] <lr084> ik ben nieuw met linux
[20:51] <lr084> ik wil een programa instaleren krijg het niet voor elkaar
[20:53] <nomic> !nl
[21:10] <sean_> hello room
[21:11] <sean_> posting question : where to get -O pepper-flash-v<IP_ADDRESS>-r1.tar.xz
[21:12] <sean_> is flash even available for raspberry pi 3
[21:12] <sean_> ??
[21:12] <bekks> No.
[21:12] <bekks> Flash isnt available for ARM.
[21:12] <sean_> is there somthing I could try ?
[21:13] <sean_> gnash is too old and pepperflash download is unavailable
[21:14] <sean_> so i am guessing there are no other alternatives at all ?
[21:15] <sean_> I understand that flash is a dying technology and everyone is moving to html 5
[21:15] <sean_> but I need to access flash for older websites
[21:16] <sean_> anyway if anyone has a suggestion I will leave this open for a bit
[21:17] <bekks> There is no flash for ARM.
[21:17] <bekks> Nothing you can try.
[21:17] <sean_> I understand what you mean
[21:18] <sean_> ok I will look into this further , if I find an alternative I will post it
[21:19] <sean_> the reason I say this is because I am able to open and run .flv files on my raspberry pi3
[21:20] <sean_> not sure about .swf files
[21:21] <sean_> thank you bekks
[21:22] <sixwheeledbeast> Flash being closed source is an issue, you can't just build it.
[21:23] <sean_> true .. because flash is no longer developing for Linux
[21:25] <sean_> and it was possible just 2 years ago on OLDER models of the raspberry with an ARM processor to run flash
[21:25] <sixwheeledbeast> Any flash working for ARM will be well out of date
[21:26] <sean_> what video players do you guys use?
[21:27] <sean_> I use smplayer which is the front end for Mplayer2
[21:27] <rahtgaz> sean_: this arm processor is running where?
[21:27] <bekks> sean_: There never was a recent flash version for ARM, regardless of Linux or not.
[21:28] <sean_> Raspberry Pi 3 is what I have
[21:28] <rahtgaz> sean_: because i'm thinking a minimal linux installation on a VM is perhaps your best bet
[21:28] <rahtgaz> oh, tough :(
[21:28] <sean_> it has an ARMh
[21:29] <rahtgaz> yes, but not an option to run a VM on
[21:29] <sean_> let me see if I can open up my processor settings
[21:31] <sixwheeledbeast> sean_: Tried Lightspark?
[21:32] <sean_> CPU: 4× ARM Cortex-A53, 1.2GHz
[21:32] <sean_> lightspark ??
[21:32] <sean_> can I install it via apt-get ?
[21:32] <sean_> or do I need a .deb file to intall it
[21:33] <rahtgaz> check it, mate
[21:33] <sixwheeledbeast> possibly it's a open source flash player https://lightspark.github.io/
[21:33] <rahtgaz> anyways, there's a build on the repos
[21:34] <sean_> ok thanks
[21:35] <sixwheeledbeast> sean_: apt-get install lightspark browser-plugin-lightspark
[21:35] <sean_> the raspberry pi3 that I am using I placed a watered down version of Ubuntu-mate 16.04
[21:36] <sean_> apparently a smaller version had to be made for the raspberry
[21:38] <sixwheeledbeast> i imagine it only has less default packages and packaged for arm
[21:39] <sean_> I am installing lightspark now
[21:39] <sean_> through terminal
[21:42] <sean_> I will reboot the system and log back in here
[21:42] <sean_> what is the best way to test it ?
[21:43] <sean_> before I do
[21:44] <sean_> BRB
[21:44] <sixwheeledbeast> I doubt a reboot will be required
[21:50] <sean_> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/tutorial-flash-player-for-chromium-and-firefox/3598
[21:50] <sean_> that is the link I had used
[21:50] <sean_> BRB
[21:56] <ericb2> sixwheeledbeast, I'm not sure it will be the solution, but apt-get install gnash seems to work on Mate (RPI3+ there)
[21:56] <ericb2> sixwheeledbeast, isn't it a flash like ( /me not a specialist, sorry)
[21:57] <ericb2> btw; I just compiled OOo4kids on armhf  ... will build some .deb soon
[21:59] <sixwheeledbeast> no idea, I don't have flash installed on anything myself. gnash or lightspark seem to be two suggestions for RPi, apparently gnash didn't work.
[22:00] <sean_> lightspark cannot open .swf files
[22:00] <sean_> I just installed it
[22:01] <sean_> not sure about .flv files
[22:03] <sean_> armhf is an architecture used mostly in mobile devices and netbooks. Its more common name is ARM
[22:03] <sean_> so my question is this ... how do netbooks play flash in the browsers
[22:04] <sean_> most advertising from ad-choice is flash based
[22:04] <sean_> and I am sure that they figured out a way to bombard us with flash based ads
[22:05] <sean_> those with mobile devices and netbooks anyway
[22:05] <sixwheeledbeast> HTML5 video is very common now.
[22:06] <sean_> yes it is ... I just hope it turns into a good thing
[22:06] <sixwheeledbeast> I believe the plugin is for firefox have you tried that?
[22:06] <sixwheeledbeast> also https://github.com/lightspark/lightspark/wiki/Debugging-tools
[22:08] <sixwheeledbeast> failing that they have a #lightspark channel on freenode.
[22:09] <sean_> in firefox browser after installing Lightspark I opened the webpage ... joecartoon.com
[22:09] <allen__> does Ubuntu Mate work on first generation Raspberry Pi?
[22:10] <sean_> allen .... raspberry pi has a custom image of Ubuntu-mate
[22:10] <sean_> you cannot run the standard one
[22:11] <sean_> I am using Ubuntu-mate 16.04
[22:11] <sean_> the image file is 3.9 gigs
[22:11] <allen__> At the Ubuntu Mate site there's a link for "Ubuntu MATE 16.04 LTS for Raspberry Pi 2 and 3 systems." But I'm wondering if it would also work on first generation, or if another image exists which would
[22:11] <sean_> compressed in archive I think it is 1.8 gigs
[22:12] <sean_> allen ... you could try version 15.
[22:12] <sean_> the image is a bit smaller
[22:12] <sean_> i have tried both on my raspberry 3
[22:13] <sean_> you will need an sdcard of 32 gigs
[22:13] <allen__> I know but will it work on Raspberry 1?
[22:13] <allen__> I don't have 2 or 3
[22:13] <sean_> allen do you have the raspberry zero ?
[22:15] <sixwheeledbeast> It will be listed as RPi 2 and 3 for a reason
[22:16] <sean_> yes because I think Allen's pi would not have enough memory
[22:17] <sean_> even if it does install... i think it would not work properly
[22:17] <sean_> the raspberry pi2 and 3 have twice the ram
[22:18] <sean_> even though it is still a small amount
[22:18] <sean_> 512 mg
[22:18] <sean_> for a quad 4 processor
[22:18] <sean_> brb
[22:18] <sixwheeledbeast> exactly, anyway joecartoon wfm and don't have flash
[22:23] <ali1234> ubuntu will not run on a raspberry pi 1 or zero. not any kind of ubuntu
[22:27] <sean_> 6wheel what os do you have ?
[22:28] <sean_> are you running strickly Linux ?
[22:28] <sean_> or virtually in windows
[22:34] <sixwheeledbeast> ubuntu-mate yes
[22:35] <sean_> well gonna go for now .. thanks everyone for the help
[23:12] <ericb2> bye


[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #3406 in ksynaptics (universe) "ksynaptics not working in dapper/breezy" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3406
[01:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78100 in xorg (main) "X fails after installing updates, black screen, locked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78100
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #14644 in xorg (main) "Runlevel 2 starting GUI" [Critical,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14644
[10:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82783 in xvidtune (main) "NoDesktopFile:  xvidtune" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82783
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64672 in xfonts-100dpi (main) "these fonts do not work anymore (dup-of: 39560)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64672
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #21302 in xserver-xorg-video-via (main) "VIA UniChrome PRO IGP (K8N800) dosent work correctly." [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/21302
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #49782 in xserver-xorg-video-via (main) "Google Earth Beta 4 does not display properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/49782
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82875 in xorg (main) "xorg hangs on boot (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82875
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82902 in xinit (main) "20xorg-common_process-args doesn't work with zsh" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82902
[07:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82903 in xinit (main) "20xorg-common_process-args doesn't work with zsh" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82903


[00:41] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5209 trunk/ (78 files in 4 dirs): Internationalise hostname and username validation errors (LP: #784825).
[00:41] <cjwatson> right, it would have annoyed me to have left that lying around uncommitted locally for two weeks :-)
[00:41] <cjwatson> perhaps somebody could give ubiquity trunk a round of integration testing or whatever and release it
[00:42]  * cjwatson vanishes off on leave.  I might be around now and again, but don't count on it!


[16:19] <Noammac> Hello? I'm trying to install Xubuntu 18.04.1 on my friend's Lenovo Ideapad 320, and I need confirmation on my partition setup (captured in the attached image). https://i.imgur.com/0xQMX77l.png
[16:20] <Noammac> What confuses me is that there is no defined ESP, and that this is (as far as I know) a UEFI system. In this case, I do not know where to mount /boot/efi
[16:21] <diogenes_> Noammac, you don't mount it, you create it
[16:22] <cousteau> O/
[16:22] <cousteau> Where's the screensaver settings?  Or do I need to install that first?
[16:23] <diogenes_> cousteau, xscreensaver
[16:24] <Noammac> diogenes, but isn't there supposed to be an ESP already? There's Windows factory-installed on this laptop, and I want to keep both operating systems operational
[16:25] <diogenes_> Noammac, in manual partitioning you need to create it manually, the efi partition you see there is windows one now you need to create the one for linux, 300 MB partition mounted as /boot/efi
[16:25] <diogenes_> the menu should give you the right name for the partition
[16:26] <cousteau> diogenes_: do I need to install that?
[16:26] <diogenes_> cousteau, run: apt liste --installed | grep xscreensaver
[16:26] <diogenes_> what do you get
[16:27] <diogenes_> sorry
[16:27] <diogenes_>  apt list --installed | grep xscreensaver
[16:27] <diogenes_> that one ^^^
[16:27] <Noammac> diogenes_, just to be sure, I need to create a 300MB partition and in the "Use as" section select "EFI System Partition"?
[16:27] <cousteau> I just typed xscreensaver and it told me to install that, so I guess it's not installed
[16:28] <diogenes_> Noammac, yes
[16:28] <diogenes_> cousteau, yes then install it
[16:28] <Noammac> Alright, I'll try it then.
[16:28] <cousteau> OK… was expecting it to be installed
[16:31] <Noammac> Wait, I think the efi partition is the ESP. And it could be that XFCE knows that and would try to install GRUB into it automatically
[16:31] <Noammac> It makes no sense to make another EFI partition, because there's usually one system partition where you put all the binaries
[16:33] <cousteau> diogenes_: thanks!
[16:34] <cousteau> It's 300MB now?  Damn, mine's 100
[16:35] <Noammac> The Arch Wiki suggests 512MiB
[16:35] <diogenes_> cousteau, i like nr 3
[16:36] <cousteau> Fair enough I guess
[16:38] <cousteau> My laptop has two Fn buttons which I don't know what are for, one has Zz on it and the other a lightning bolt
[16:40] <cousteau> Zz triggers a 0xdf scan code but has no key code associated to it, and the other does nothing at all
[16:41] <diogenes_> mysterious buttons
[16:42] <Noammac> Whelp, I configured the ext4 and the swap and made it install the bootloader to /dev/sda
[16:42] <cousteau> I guess I need to mess with udev for lightning to do something
[16:42] <Noammac> Let's see if Ubiquity is as smart as I thought, or if everything is going to be alright
[16:42] <Noammac> Wait, no. Nevermind.
[16:43] <cousteau> Same way I needed to mess with it to get the volume keys working properly
[17:07] <Noammac> Well, Ubiquity has been hanging for the past 30 minutes
[17:08] <Noammac> On "Installing the 'grub2' package"
[17:26] <Noammac> Is there any way to halt the installation process at this point and try again? It's hanging in a rather ominous manner
[18:30] <nomenon_> hmm


[08:28] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:36] <SuperMatt> morning
[08:42] <brobostigon> morning
[09:00] <daftykins> morn \o
[09:00] <brobostigon> o/
[09:02] <zmoylan-pi> a gloomy damp day... perfect for monday in ireland...
[09:03] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/kDwM0LN.gif
[09:07] <zmoylan-pi> gods a smiter...
[09:08] <zmoylan-pi> some mondays it's just not worthwhile to chew through the restraints...
[09:08] <daftykins> indeedy!
[09:45] <diplo> Any of you guys use ansible ?
[09:45] <diplo> If so can I use when: followed by another when: ?
[10:03] <daftykins> #ansible might be worth a go
[10:06] <diplo> yeah find those guys a bit much :D - on their website now, it was a quick one, I've just commented out for now and will test on a dev machine later
[10:06] <diplo> We have some weird setups
[10:35] <diddledan> diplo: is it yaml? they might take an array
[10:36] <diplo> yeah it is, I've not looked at it properly yet. I've bodged for now and will set up an lxc to test in abit.
[10:39] <BigRedS1> Ah, I've been trying to get ansible to work with our ways of doing things (which seems the harder and less-common use of ansible)
[10:39] <BigRedS1> got an example of what you're trying to do?
[12:14] <diplo> Sorry on other screen, oh this is a simple one really just not had time to look at it
[12:14] <diplo> On different Centos minimal isos it comes with firewalld and others don't.
[12:15] <diplo> I already do check to see if it's cent and whether it's 6 or 7 because I use the same to deploy to both
[12:15] <diplo> But I want to check whether firewalld is installed before disabling it
[18:55] <diddledan> lol, while amazon do "prime day" I just received an email from ebuyer about their own version "optimus day"
[18:55] <diddledan> "no membership required"
[19:24] <TheProphet[S]> Hi all, is there a way to clone my Ubuntu partition to an SD card and make that bootable and run it from there? I am using clonezilla, but I have only been able to create an image of my partition so far and I believe that is not bootable
[19:32] <m0nkey_> Wouldn't dd work?
[19:41] <daftykins> and then they were gone
[19:41] <daftykins> sounds like the SD will be a lot smaller m0nkey_ - so doubt it
[19:42] <diddledan> daftykins: my card is teeny
[19:42] <diddledan> it's almost as small as my floppy ;-)
[19:45] <daftykins> diddledan: https://cdn.meme.am/cache/images/folder433/600x600/14002433/cant-argue-with-that-technically-not-wrong.jpg
[19:46] <daftykins> i would like you to know that took several searches with constantly refined syntax
[19:46] <diddledan> lol
[19:46] <daftykins> and even then i learnt it has another meaning to what i thought ;_;


[04:56] <cloakable> Hoes anyone have experience with the thinkpad 240 with ubuntu edgy?
[05:00] <cloakable> I can shut down the system, but it does not power off - I have to press the power button.


[17:49] <kentb> is there a 'proper' place to put dns forwarding info on a maas controller?  I have a dual-homed machine running cluster and region controller.  maas-dns & maas-dhcp are being managed on eth1 (private network) and eth0 is how I get out to the internet.  I found that if I edit /etc/bind/maas/named.conf.maas and add a forwarders option, my maas nodes can access
[17:49] <kentb> the outside world.   However, if I make any changes to that interface on the maas web UI, the forwarding info gets wiped out. Thanks!
[17:49] <kentb> "that interface" being eth1 for my dns dhcp management