[13:28] <RedViper> dr_willis: It's not working with Empathy though. I have checked and applyed these details - #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[13:29] <theadmin> RedViper: Click this: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help . Empathy should open it and connect where you want to.
[13:30] <MatisMasters> ikonia: Ethernet controller: Realtek ctor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B Express it Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[13:30] <RedViper> theadmin: Nothing is happening
[13:30] <ikonia> MatisMasters: that should have quite reasonable support
[13:30] <theadmin> RedViper: mk, anyway, Empathy is not really an IRC client... Why not use something sane?
[13:31] <MatisMasters> ikonia: I don't know who exactly to address, do you think its a driver problem?
[13:31] <dr_willis> i agree - use a 'real' irc client
[13:31] <RedViper> theadmin: Suggestions?
[13:31] <theadmin> RedViper: irssi (cli), kvirc, xchat (gui)
[13:31] <dr_willis> weechat. ;)
[13:32] <ikonia> MatisMasters: doubtful, but possible
[13:33] <llutz> MatisMasters: " modinfo r8169|grep version:"
[13:33] <the_p> dr_willis:  i'm on kde and i deactivated the desktop effects
[13:33] <NyLes> lol this card beats the hell out of me..
[13:33] <ikonia> MatisMasters: the fact that there are so many "up" requests in that syslog sugguest to me it's struggling to negotiate
[13:33] <mosno> what is the deal with that annoying little resize triangle on the bottom-right of my windows? i don't seem to recall this on other distros. can it be disabled? am in Gnome Shell
[13:34] <dr_willis> mosno:  resize handel? its a theme thing i belive
[13:35] <MatisM> ikonia: sorry just lost connection
[13:35] <MatisM> ikonia:  http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[13:35] <ikonia> MatisM: you've given me that link 3 times !
[13:35] <ikonia> MatisM: stop it
[13:35] <MatisM> ikonia: added latest command result, the last message I read was about that having reasonable support
[13:36] <RedViper> dr_willis: Ok I have installed Xchat, What network do I use?
[13:36] <ikonia> MatisM: please show me the output of "ifconfig eth0"
[13:37] <dr_willis> !mint
[13:37] <RedViper> dr_willis: MintIRC?
[13:37] <ikonia> RedViper: ok - this is getting tedious now
[13:37] <mosno> dr_willis, figured it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61280/how-to-remove-the-resize-grip-in-gtk3-windows
[13:37] <ikonia> RedViper: connec to the irc network irc.spotchat.net
[13:37] <dr_willis>  on 'servername'
[13:38] <mosno> dr_willis, it just bugged me in gnome-terminal
[13:38] <Sapphire> Hello everybody , in ubuntu there are many files have a SUID set and can be executed by other user , so why I run a program like this , I still need to enter my sudo password ?
[13:38] <ikonia> RedViper: join the channel #linuxmint-help
[13:38] <ikonia> RedViper: if you are unable to do this, join the channel #xchat and ask for help in configuring it
[13:38] <playman> any one that can help me? I just installed fog on ubuntu 10.04 LTS, now i'm trying to access it's management trough firefox, all I get is "connection timed out" when I try to access the fog management. I cant ping the ubuntu server from the XP machine, but I can ping the XP machine from Ubuntu. any idea?
[13:38] <ikonia> playman: what are you trying to access ?
[13:38] <theadmin> Sapphire: It all depends on what the program does. If it tries to access some data the user normally has no access to, well
[13:38] <MatisM_> ikonia: sorry but I think now, if the ubuntu is connected, could it be that is making have problem connections with my laptop in windows?
[13:39] <ikonia> MatisM_: please show me the output of the command "ifconfig eth0"
[13:39] <playman> ikonia: i'm trying to access this http://localhost/fog/management
[13:39] <ikonia> playman: you won't be able to access "localhost" from a remote host
[13:39] <ikonia> playman: you need to make sure apache is running to access it from the local machine
[13:40] <ikonia> playman: I have no idea how you've installed "fog" so can't comment beyond that
[13:40] <playman> ikonia: I did not use localhost, I used it's local ip address
[13:40] <new2ubuntu> hi guys, can someone help me with ubuntu 11.10, I cant get into graphical mode?
[13:40] <llutz> <IP_ADDRESS>? ;)
[13:40] <ikonia> playman: then when I asked "what you are trying to access" give me the REAL thing you are trying to access
[13:40] <playman> ikonia: this is how I installed fog, pritty simple http://www.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu_10.04
[13:40] <ikonia> playman: don't give me fake info
[13:41] <dr_willis> for a fast quake server join '<IP_ADDRESS>'    old joke. ;)
[13:41] <ikonia> dr_willis: made me smile, so thank you
[13:41] <playman> ikonia: sorry about that ikonia, i'll keep that in mind from now on
[13:41] <Sapphire> thx theamin ~
[13:41] <ikonia> playman: I'll ask again "what url are you trying to access"
[13:41] <new2ubuntu> linux expects me to type something it stands on myusername@computerName
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> any idea what should I do?
[13:42] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: what is the question
[13:42] <dr_willis> new2ubuntu:  thats the console/shell
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> i just installed ubuntu
[13:42] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Does "startx" do anything?
[13:42] <playman> ikonia: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/fog/management
[13:42] <MatisM_> l
[13:42] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: ok
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> just a sec, I'll tell you what happens
[13:42] <MatisM_> ikonia: added to the pastie we've been working on
[13:42] <ikonia> playman: ok - so you need to make sure apache is set to listen on the IP address <IP_ADDRESS> and that port 80 is not firewalled
[13:42] <dr_willis> !info fog
[13:42] <theadmin> ikonia: (s)he fails to run lightdm apparently
[13:42] <ikonia> theadmin: who/what/where ?
[13:42] <new2ubuntu> it says server error?
[13:43] <theadmin> ikonia: new2ubuntu
[13:43] <new2ubuntu> theadmin?
[13:43] <ikonia> MatisM_: don't see the info - please just give me the info I'm asking for
[13:43] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Uh, huh. Okay, can you try booting with nomodeset?
[13:43] <new2ubuntu> that's what i did
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> and ended up here
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> I mean on this screen
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> I type my username and pass
[13:44] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Well, I take it the same thing happens without nomodeset too?
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> without nomodeset it's black screen
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> laptop has some issues with graphics
[13:44] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Hm, okay. What is your GPU (graphics card)?
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> so I activated nomodeset
[13:44] <new2ubuntu> radeon 6830g I think
[13:44] <armandoborntotau> anybody know how to install ubuntu on sony vaio series s?? i can't install with ubuntu 10.04
[13:45] <new2ubuntu> it's hp pavilion g7 laptop
[13:46] <mi3> Hi, I am updating my natty with the latest updates and I would like to know how can I backup those updates .
[13:46] <armandoborntotau> anybody know how to install ubuntu on sony vaio series s?? i can't install with ubuntu 10.04
[13:46] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Hm... Radeon or Radeon HD? I dunno if the old Radeon are even supported anymore
[13:47] <new2ubuntu> just aa sec
[13:47] <theadmin> (I'm not too into graphic cards or hardware in general though)
[13:47] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: lspci | grep VGA
[13:47] <MatisM_> l
[13:47] <AdvoWork> is this quite high as load averages? 3.46, 3.46, 3.60
[13:47] <new2ubuntu> it's hd
[13:48] <theadmin> !find fglrx
[13:48] <muelli> AdvoWork: well. Yes. But it depends, really. The number is the number of processes willing to run.
[13:49] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: Just grab fglrx and it should work... I hope
[13:49] <mi3> I am updating my natty with the latest updates and I would like to know how can I backup those updates manually and then again reinstall those updates on an offline pc without any software
[13:49] <new2ubuntu> how to grab? :D
[13:49] <new2ubuntu> type it?
[13:49] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[13:49] <new2ubuntu> ok, thanks I'll try that
[13:49] <theadmin> new2ubuntu: That is given you have a network connection
[13:50] <i2c> c
[13:50] <i2c> hey guys whenever I try to open up ubuntu software center it takes forever, then automatically turns grey and I have to force quit. Any thoughts? I"ve already tried sudo-apt --reinstall install software-center
[13:51] <mi3> any suggest me?
[13:51] <muelli> well i2c. It might just be busy.
[13:51] <muelli> mi3: I don't really get what you want to achieve.
[13:51] <mi3> can anyone suggest me?
[13:51] <AdvoWork> muelli, what can i do to work out why its so high?
[13:51] <theadmin> i2c: software-center is pretty heavy, have you considered trying Synaptic?
[13:51] <mi3> i2c try updating to a new version
[13:52] <MatisM_> ikonia: there, in the same pastebin, at the bottom of everything, sorry its difficult to use the connection right now from ubuntu, im moving the command results through text files in a pendrive now
[13:52] <muelli> AdvoWork: you can check with tools like "htop" what processes are running and in which state they are. Then you get an idea of what processes cause the load.
[13:52] <escott> mi3, you can grab the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[13:53] <mi3> muelli, I am updating my system and its receiving those updates [those deb files] I want to backup those and save them, then I want to install them on an offline pc that has never connected to the internet
[13:53] <ikonia> MatisM_: sorry, not interested any more, I'm asking for information and not getting it.
[13:53] <roasted_> Question - this is such a minor thing, but I'm just THAT curious. Why is it when I format a drive in disk utility, I have 2 mb unallocated, while in gparted it leaves 0 mb allocated? What's stranger yet is if I format it with gparted (leaving 0 mb unallocated) and try to add it to my software raid array, it times out and fails, whereas if I format it with disk utility (leaving 2 mb unallocated) it works just fine. Very minor, but I
[13:53] <MatisM_> ikonia: second chance please! I really need help with this
[13:53] <muelli> yeah mi3. I think you need to backup /var/cache/apt. But I'm not entirely sure whether that's everything.
[13:53] <ikonia> roasted_: it's just rounding
[13:54] <roasted_> ikonia: don't you think it's strange 1 works as raid and th eother does not, though?
[13:54] <ikonia> roasted_: it shouldn't make a difference, and in all the years I've used raid I've never had an issue due to rounding
[13:54] <mi3> escott there are a lot of deb files, how do I backup them?
[13:54] <playman> ikonia: sorry for the long respond, I checked the httpd.conf file and it's empty, I should se there if my apache is listening. right?
[13:54] <ikonia> roasted_: I suspect there a different problem that you are assoticating with this
[13:54] <mi3> muelli i want to backup my updates dude
[13:54] <muelli> roasted_: I don't know but I can imaging metadata taking up some space. And well, if there's no space left, it might not be able to write the metadata
[13:54] <muelli> mi3: yes.
[13:54] <MatisM_> ikonia:  http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f4796aa0e81f
[13:55] <roasted_> ikonia: have you ever set up software raid after ubuntu is already installed?
[13:55] <escott> roasted_, two possibilities (a) alighnment and (b) something gpt related. i think gpt leaves a bit at the front of the disk unused so as not to trample on mbr tables
[13:55] <roasted_> muelli: that was kind of my thought process too.
[13:55] <ikonia> playman visit https://help.ubuntu.com - look in the server section there is a guide on how to setup apache
[13:55] <roasted_> escott: I'm not using gpt.
[13:55] <ikonia> roasted_: many many times
[13:55] <roasted_> ikonia: when you prep the drives, do you use gparted, disk utility, or terminal?
[13:55] <ikonia> roasted_: personally fdisk
[13:55] <escott> mi3, how were you planning to get files to the offline machine?
[13:56] <ikonia> roasted_: no reason other than personal preferences
[13:56] <mi3> muelli how to backup them? also i would like to install them on an offline pc so tell me how to do so
[13:56] <LukeNukem> ikonia, yo
[13:56] <LukeNukem> remember me?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  is popular today
[13:56] <ikonia> LukeNukem: as we only spoke yesterday, yes
[13:56] <roasted_> ikonia: I hear ya. hey by chance do you have a preference between mbr and gpt?
[13:56] <MatisM_> MonkeyDust: can you help me with my weird internet connection problem?
[13:57] <LukeNukem> MatisM_, what is it
[13:57] <mi3> escott ,by a flash drive, u know , with those updates copied to a flash drive and then moved to the offline pc
[13:57] <ikonia> roasted_: mbr is nothing to do with gpt, if you mean dos partitions and gpt, unless I have a technical reason (2TB or greater or EFI ) or until dos becomes more retired I'll keep it simple with dos tables
[13:57] <bisceglia> ciao list
[13:57] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make a ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[13:57] <roasted_> ikonia: I know they have nothing to do each other, and yes I meant the disk size/EFI. Speaking of which, if my board is "UEFI enabled" is that referencing EFI that GPT needs?
[13:58] <bisceglia> ciao list
[13:58] <muelli> mi3: *shrug* copy them on a pen drive and move them over to the other machine.
[13:58] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell bisceglia about list
[13:58] <MatisM_> LukeNukem: The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly
[13:58] <MatisM_> LukeNukem: http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[13:58] <escott> mi3, if the machines are identical and the flash drive is large enough you could rsync -delete from the /var/cache/apt/archives/ on a regular basis. that would be the easiest way to get updates over
[13:58] <MatisM_> LukeNukem: there is lots of information
[13:58] <ikonia> roasted_: if you know they are nothing to do with each other, why did you ask if I prefered MBR or GPT knowing they where nothing to do with each other
[13:58] <mi3> escott?
[13:58] <bisceglia> ciao list
[13:58] <escott> mi3, although you would also need to copy the updated apt dependency lists
[13:58] <LukeNukem> MatisM_, gee sorry, dunno man
[13:58] <LukeNukem> good luck
[13:58] <roasted_> ikonia: I looked at MBR vs GPT as ext3 vs ext4.
[13:58] <bisceglia> bisceglia
[13:58] <HoNgOuRu> my volume icon near the time has gone, Im using gnome 3.
[13:58] <ikonia> roasted_: UEFI enabled doesn't mean you have to use it
[13:59] <bastidrazor> !list | bisceglia
[13:59] <HoNgOuRu> what do I have to install ?=
[13:59] <ikonia> roasted_: MBR is "master boot record" - it's nothing to do with the partition table
[13:59] <ikonia> roasted_: the partition tables are GPT and DOS based
[13:59] <roasted_> ikonia: oh. I guess I got confused with disk utility then, because it asked me which kind of partition structure I wanted when I went to format the volume.
[13:59] <srini> Is there any channel available for tweaking terminal?
[13:59] <escott> roasted_, if gpt does not require efi. you can have gpt on bios systems. but if you have uefi enabled you are supposed to use gpt to boot
[13:59] <v01d`> how do i set up iptables in ubuntu ?
[14:00] <v01d`> and arp tables
[14:00] <ikonia> roasted_: it's easy to make the mistakes, I'[m only being picky to make sure I'm answering the question you are "really" asking
[14:00] <HoNgOuRu> is there any way of recovering the volume indicator in gnome 3 ?
[14:00] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make an ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> !pm| MatisM_
[14:00] <i2c> mi3 how do I update to a newer version? and software center worked for the longest time...
[14:00] <roasted_> escott: I didn't specifically set up gpt on my boot drive. I know my board said UEFI enabled but that was as far as I got with it.
[14:00] <chown_> guys i have a network hd that has a interface, at my mac i do a smb://ip and it mount up my hd, how do i do something like that at ubuntu?
[14:00] <v01d`> how do i set up iptables in ubuntu ?
[14:00] <mi3> escott tell me all the steps i am a newbie dude never tried that before, 1st how to backup them? i know the folder and i copied them, nut there is a lock icon on those deb files
[14:00] <muelli> v01d`: check ufw
[14:01] <fidel> chown_: you mount if via cli or via your file-browser
[14:01] <muelli> !ufw | v01d`
[14:01] <roasted_> ikonia: well if you have a second, pop into disk utility sometime, pop in a flash drive you can sacrifice (only because I would never recommend touching the next step on a live drive, even if you would utilize the cancel button) then hit "format volume". I saw MBR, GUID, and several other things there. I just associated them as being similar to ext2 vs 3 vs 4, etc
[14:01] <mi3> i2c u can update the software center from the update manager, just reload the lists and install from that ok
[14:01] <HoNgOuRu> is there any way of recovering the volume indicator in gnome 3 ?
[14:01] <MatisM_> ubottu: can you help me? The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly
[14:02] <RedViper> Please can someone help me With Linux Mint in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[14:02] <ikonia> roasted_: nah, totally different things
[14:02] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make an ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[14:02] <i2c> mi3: I believe it's already updated. I hit check for updates and I get nothing. (I update daily, I'm kinda anal about that)
[14:02] <roasted_> ikonia: mbr was default so I just left it alone.
[14:02] <ikonia> roasted_: nothing wrong with that, simple
[14:02] <mi3> hehehehe
[14:03] <v01d`> and also on arp tables
[14:03] <chown_> fidel: how do i do that?
[14:03] <mi3> then still it gets hanged i2c?
[14:03] <i2c> yes sir
[14:03] <fidel> chown_: depends on what you use
[14:03] <i2c> when I open up software-center via command line, it throws a bunch of python errors at me
[14:03] <MatisM_> The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly ANYONE to help me please? thanks in advance
[14:03] <mi3> try uninstalling then re installing it
[14:03] <fidel> chown_: cli-wise its using the mount cmd
[14:03] <chown_> fidel: on my mac i do: smb://ip/partition
[14:03] <roasted_> ikonia: I had originally formatted my one drive with GUID, and I noticed when I went to edit the file system type, things were wildly different. Instead of linux raid autodetect (0xfd) it now simply said linux raid. The options were simpler, etc. It wasn't until I went to my other drive, stll live in the raid, that I saw it was mbr. so I reformatted the target drive (drive b) as mbr, then 0xfd was available and I set the type as su
[14:03] <escott> mi3, i've never done this so I can't give you all the steps. all i can say is that apt needs a list of the files to install and their checksums and then will look into /var/cache/apt/ to see if the files were already downloaded. so what you need to get over to the other machine is the *.deb files and the updated package archive list. and you would put those in /apt. alternately if you can get a bigger disk to do the transfer you could tr
[14:03] <escott> y and use apt-mirror
[14:03] <fidel> chown_: you arent listening ;)
[14:03] <mi3> ohh
[14:04] <ikonia> roasted_: GUID is very different
[14:04] <mi3> give me the paste of that will u....
[14:04] <udonthavetoknow_> hello there, can somebody help me? i'm trying to format and partition a microsd card with gparted, but always when i'm trying to make an ext4 partition my /dev/sdb gets unmounted. after mounting it again, it says that gparted cannot detect the new partition
[14:04] <roasted_> ikonia: oh, when I googled it people were associating htem as the same.
[14:04] <mi3> err escott?
[14:04] <roasted_> ikonia: are there any advantages to guid over mbr?
[14:05] <escott> udonthavetoknow_, double check that it doesnt have a write protect switch on the card
[14:05] <mi3> ok is there a GUI to create a backup? escott?
[14:05] <MatisM_> The connection from my desktop pc with ubuntu 10.4 is reconnecting over and over again, like several times per minutes, as I surf the web, or do anything on internet, in the same pc in windows, the connection is working perfectly ANYONE to help me please? thanks in advance http://pastiebin.com/?page=p&id=4f47819721f85
[14:05] <ikonia> roasted_: bigger disk size support really, that's about it
[14:05] <haylo> Roasted, guid is group user id i think
[14:05] <escott> mi3, not that i am aware of
[14:06] <roasted_> haylo: you're right, but we're talking about a different type of guid in regard to partition table schemes. :)
[14:06] <roasted_> ikonia: gotcha. thanks bro.
[14:06] <escott> roasted_, ikonia more partitions, larger partitions, and the entry tables are bigger so more can be stored in the entry table, and there is a backup table at the end of the disk
[14:06] <mi3> ok then if u had to install updates to an offline pc suggest me what would u do?
[14:06] <i2c> WOW. I just tried doing sudo-software center, and it worked perfectly.
[14:06] <ikonia> escott: ahhh yes, more partitions is another good point
[14:06] <mi3> ok then if u had to install updates to an offline pc suggest me what would u do?escott
[14:06] <roasted_> escott: would it be more logical for me to use that type of setup on a raided /home volume?
[14:07] <escott> mi3, its a lot of sneaker work to shuffle files back and forth. is there a way to make this an online machine?
[14:07] <mi3> hehehehe
[14:07] <ikonia> roasted_: I don't think you'd see a benifit as the raid info is held in the private regions of the disk
[14:07] <kprice> udonthavetoknow - have you tried mkfs from a shell?
[14:07] <justsighdudes> Is there a good tutorial on how to set up a secure server? I feel like settings up a chroot for each daemon is a good idea but I have no idea how this stuff works.
[14:08] <ikonia> justsighdudes: it's not a good idea,
[14:08] <escott> roasted_, one argument for gpt would be that a raid array might live longer than any single disk in the array and your next disk is likely to be too big for mbr. so if you start with gpt today you can be a consistent gpt all the way through
[14:08] <ikonia> justsighdudes: not all applications can function in a chroot enviornment, some have that configuration built in, others you'd have to build a whole machine chroot just to run a daemon.
[14:08] <roasted_> escott: gpt? or guid?
[14:08] <Guest57423> who is chinese ?
[14:08] <mi3> i am just taking an example escott incase i am left totally without an internet connection and pc that has not been updated for months, know what i am saying :)
[14:08] <bastidrazor> Guest57423: most people in #ubuntu-cn
[14:09] <mi3> hehehehe
[14:09] <NyLes> ok i think I'm missing something.. please analyze this for me im begging you guys.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/855389
[14:09] <mi3> nice answer bastidrazor
[14:10] <mi3> hahahahahahaha
[14:10] <roasted_> ikonia: I'm reading GPT and GUID are the same thing...
[14:10] <Guest57423> why your speak chinese??
[14:10] <mi3> :) "most people in ubuntu-cn hahahahahahahaha
[14:11] <haylo> i wish i could speak chinese
[14:11] <zacktu> thunderbird has just upgraded to 10.0.2, and wouldn't install lightning -- now google calendar doesn't work -- recent updates have worked transparently?  - any word on where this is going?
[14:11] <Guest57423> 怎么没人打中文？？
[14:11] <escott> roasted_, gpt uses guids (in mbr your guid is put not in the partition table but in the pbr AFAIK)
[14:11] <roasted_> escott: I'm reading GPT is just an appreviation for GUID Partition Table...
[14:11] <roasted_> MBR - Master Boot REcord etc
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> Guest57423  please type /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:12] <Guest57423> thanks
[14:12] <escott> mi3, its hard to work with hypotheticals. hypothetically if the US and russia launch their nukes canonical won't be producing many updates so i wouldn't worry
[14:12] <mi3> escott: hehehehehehe
[14:12] <playman> ikonia: sorry about this, but both /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and /etc/dhcpd.conf are blank, I used to have fully working dhcpd server before the install of the fog program, is that normal?
[14:13] <escott> roasted_, there are technical limitations (disk size) that are forcing the move to GPT, but GPT includes many of the best practices (like partition guids that you see with sudo blkid) into the partition table
[14:13] <mi3> escott: hey atleast in modern warfare 3 they did[hypothetically]
[14:13] <bluefrog> playman, /etc/dhcp3-server.dhcpd.conf
[14:13] <mi3> hehe
[14:13] <dr_willis> Nukebuntu
[14:13] <bluefrog> playman, /etc/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.conf
[14:13] <roasted_> escott: while I'm already tinkering with my partitions I  might as well move them over just for tinkering.
[14:14] <bluefrog> playman forget it, am reading what I want... not what is written..
[14:14] <Guest57423> where are you from??
[14:14] <bluefrog> playman, why are you mixing apache conf and dhcp conf?
[14:14] <escott> roasted_, the reasons for using gpt on a new disk are decent. the reasons for switching to gpt on a prexisting disk are less compelling. also be very careful to remove the mbr partition if you switch. or create a protective mbr partition
[14:15] <escott> roasted_, this will tell you everything you need to know and more http://www.rodsbooks.com/
[14:15] <bluefrog> playman, /etc/apache2.apache2.conf
[14:15] <Trevor69420> ok i have been trying to convert COMPLETELY to ubuntu to get rid of windows... but i have a music problem... i have imported all my music from iTunes into my ubuntu system... however i have one tiny issue... my itunes purchased songs
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> !pm > Guest57423
[14:16] <Trevor69420> has anyone figured a roundabout way to get my iTunes purchases to work in Ubuntu
[14:16] <escott> Trevor69420, you probably need to remove the drm from the m4a files
[14:17] <roasted_> escott: these are just data disks. I guess I could do it one of two ways. It's a raid. I could either remove drive A, format to GUID, sync up to drive B (still mbr) then remove drive B, format to GUID, sync to drive A. This is assuming I can do that, but in software raid I don't think it would matter.
[14:17] <ikonia> playman: dhcpd.conf is nothing do to with apache
[14:17] <playman> bluefrog: /etc/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.conf is also blank. what do you mean about mixing? well I have the file/etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[14:17] <ikonia> playman: and as I've told you https://help.ubunu.com look in the server info for how to setup apache
[14:17] <Trevor69420> escott yea thats what i figured... not sure if theres a tool for that that might run on ubuntu
[14:17] <bluefrog> playman, what are you trying to? configure a web server AND configure a dhcp server?
[14:18] <escott> roasted_, you can have both gpt and mbr on the same disk (so long as they are consistent) so you might want to try switching with gdisk by just changing the partitiont ables (gdisk can create hybrids)
[14:18] <alisunjaya> hello
[14:18] <ikonia> playman: your problem is you need apache to listen on the right ip address - those two files are nothing to do with that
[14:18] <playman> ikonia: I know but I just wanted to check dhcpd.conf and found it strange that the file was empty
[14:18] <alisunjaya> playman
[14:18] <alisunjaya> \??>
[14:18] <roasted_> escott: eh, I'd rather just push it all to gpt if mbr offers me nothing but scaling limitations for the future.
[14:18] <ikonia> playman: fix the problem in hand - which is apache is not listening on the right IP
[14:18] <alisunjaya> ikonia?
[14:18] <roasted_> escott: as long as software raid can sync an mbr disk to gpt, then I can do 1 drive at a time like that without issue.
[14:18] <escott> Trevor69420, i dont believe those tools work on linux. they need the encryption keys that are associated to your itunes accounts
[14:18] <playman> bluefrog: i'm trying to setup fog server
[14:19] <escott> roasted_, i would say that if you have a working system not to mess with it. there really isn't much to gain
[14:19] <roasted_> escott: it's a system I'm rebuilding, so if I'm going to do it, now is the time.
[14:19] <roasted_> escott: otherwise I probably wouldn't care much at all.
[14:19] <playman> ikonia: yeah i'm sorry i'm trying to read trough the https://help.ubuntu.com
[14:20] <roasted_> escott: then again, even if I move to a larger array, I'll have to set up a new array to begin with. It's not like I can easily port this array over.
[14:20] <roasted_> escott: perhaps it's a moot point?
[14:20] <alisunjaya> hello????????????????????????????????
[14:20] <roasted_> escott: especially if there's no higher data reliability or speed increase...
[14:21] <jonny> I'm newbie and I need a little help with gnome classic
[14:21] <escott> roasted_, it depends on how your array is configured. if you have lvm on top of mdadm you can just add new lvm sectors to a new array
[14:21] <roasted_> escott: no lvm is involved
[14:21] <roasted_> escott: just a basic mdadm mirror
[14:24] <mi3> escott thanks for the advices!!
[14:26] <Valkyr> Hi. I'm new to Freenode IRC so if there's any introductory protocol I'm missing, please let me know. I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu Lucid and am hoping that someone might be able to give me some advice?
[14:27] <kalimojo> is it possible for someone to send a malicious link to firefox and hijackt it under ubuntu ?
[14:27] <escott> Valkyr, the main part of the protocol you missed is where you ask your question.
[14:27] <Valkyr> Thanks. Here it is.
[14:27] <Valkyr> The problem is with my screen/monitor in KDE. I was trying to adjust the “brightness” setting to something lower using the slider, but when I hit “apply” the monitor seemed to just shut off. I can tell I'm still logged in because my computer is set to logout in 30 seconds if I hit the “power” button once. It logs me out and I can see the startup/login screen just fine. I can also see everything if I log into Gnome Desktop,
[14:27] <superstraw> Valkyr: you have to buy us a beer first
[14:28] <tomaso_> ciao a tt
[14:28] <Valkyr> *monitor goes off and I can hear the login sound but still can't see anything.
[14:28] <tomaso_> !list
[14:28] <kalimojo> i clicked on an image here earlier on - mudkip - that orbii posted ever since its been opening strange pages from my cache
[14:28] <escott> Valkyr, sounds like the backlight is turning off instead of lowering in brightness. can you get a bright lamp and shine it on the display to confirm
[14:29] <Valkyr> I'll dig up my flashlight and give that a try.
[14:30] <Valkyr> I can't actually see anything shining a bright light on it.
[14:31] <playman> ikonia: just a thought, does it matter if the ubuntu is <IP_ADDRESS> and the XP is <IP_ADDRESS>? the subnet mask is <IP_ADDRESS> on both machines
[14:31] <escott> playman, yes
[14:32] <pesari> hello, I get two addresses for archive.canonical.com: <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> -- the latter one seems to have outdated repository contents, at least for the file /ubuntu/dists/lucid/partner/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
[14:32] <dr_willis> that would be 2 different subnets i think. ;)
[14:32] <M4dH4TT3r> yes playman theyre on different networks
[14:33] <Valkyr> If it were the backlight shutting off, is there a combination of buttons I would press or something to turn it back on?
[14:33] <playman> ok I know they are on different networks, I thought that they could still comunicate if told so
[14:33] <escott> Valkyr, well assuming that the monitor isn't being turned off by dpms, but rather that the backlight is being turned off. then the issue would with your acpi tables. you would have to do some searches for your specific hardware to identify if there is a workaround/update to the kernel acpi tables
[14:34] <M4dH4TT3r> if you change 111 to 1 they will be all good
[14:34] <escott> playman, depends on what lies between the subnets, but local services are usually configured to ignore traffic from outside subnets
[14:35] <Valkyr> Okay. I will do some research on that. What if it's being turned off by dpms?
[14:35] <playman> M4dH4TT3r: ok i'll change that, and check it again.
[14:35] <playman> escott ok thanks for that
[14:35] <alisunjaya_> HELLO?
[14:35] <alisunjaya_> hhsahaaahahah
[14:35] <bastidrazor> alisunjaya_: yeah, you're heard.
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> playman
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> ?
[14:36] <escott> Valkyr, i think thats unlikely. but if it were there are cli utils for X to change the dpms settings
[14:36] <dr_willis> alisunjaya_:  you have a support question?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> bastidrazor? in ubuntu chat?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> i user ubuntu 11.04
[14:36] <playman> alisunjaya_ yes?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> hhehe
[14:36] <bluefrog> playman, I assume a route is in place for both subnets to communicate?
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> playman
[14:36] <alisunjaya_> where do you live?
[14:37] <dr_willis> alisunjaya_:  you have an actual ubuntu  support question?
[14:37] <bastidrazor> alisunjaya_: this channel is not for chat but for support. #ubuntu-offtopic may be where you want to go.
[14:37] <playman> alisunjaya_: why do you ask about that?
[14:37] <alisunjaya_> what?
[14:37] <alisunjaya_> support?
[14:38] <fidel> alisunjaya_: this is a support only channel
[14:38] <playman> bluefrog: could you please rephrase that question?
[14:38] <mady> any chatrooms on this server?
[14:38] <fidel> so NOT for non-topic related chat
[14:38] <bastidrazor> mady: #defocus
[14:38] <dr_willis> !ot
[14:38] <mady> oh ty
[14:38] <bluefrog> playman, forget apache. from one machine, can you ping the other and vice versa?
[14:38] <alisunjaya_> fidel?
[14:38] <alisunjaya_> ok
[14:38] <bluefrog> playman, can they talk together?
[14:38] <Valkyr> escott Okay. So I'll look around on the net for something about the ACPI tables and come back if I have more trouble.
[14:38] <alisunjaya_> can you tell me supoort
[14:39] <mady> so this room is just for IT geeks?
[14:39] <alisunjaya_> rhis
[14:39] <playman> bluefrog: I can ping from ubuntu to xp, but not from xp to ubuntu
[14:39] <NyLes> !ppa
[14:39] <Myrtti> !id | alisunjaya_
[14:40] <dr_willis> mady:  for ubuntu support
[14:40] <mady> in south africa ubuntu means - to help each other :)
[14:40] <alisunjaya_> ubottu?
[14:40] <alisunjaya_> can you speak indonesia
[14:40] <mady> i can speak afrikaans and english
[14:40] <mady> and a bit of hebrew
[14:40] <dr_willis> !bot
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> alisunjaya_  ubottu is a (ro)bot
[14:40] <mady> shabat shalom!
[14:41] <alisunjaya_> mady?
[14:41] <alisunjaya_> spaek indonsia?
[14:41] <alisunjaya_> mady_
[14:41] <LjL> speak move to #ubuntu-offtopic about which languages you speak :P
[14:41] <mady>  i cant speak indonsia
[14:41] <LjL> this channel is for Ubuntu support in English
[14:42] <bluefrog> playman, make it easy for you to begin with. put both machines on the same subnet. install your soft and make sure it works. then you will play with different subnets.
[14:42] <mady> lol ok LjL wanna join me :P
[14:43] <alisunjaya_> mady where do you live?
[14:43] <mady> south africa
[14:43] <mady> mossel bay to be precise
[14:43] <fidel> alisunjaya_: dude read what we tell you
[14:43] <mady> you can google it
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> !ot| mady alisunjaya_
[14:43] <mady> oops sorry
[14:44] <alisunjaya_> ubuntu realase 12.04 bulan 4
[14:44] <wormmd> So here's a weird one: my machine was bogging down horribly yesterday, so I restarted, and when it booted back up, it seemed as though all of my configurations had been wiped, e.g., hotkeys and such, and a panel showed up behind the GNOME Shell application bar at the top. I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 running GNOME Shell.
[14:44] <playman> bluefrog: yea was starting to look into that, wanted to change the dhcpd.conf but it's blank, and it's there where I can make the ubuntu machine part of the same network. right?
[14:45] <bluefrog> playman, not at all. I believe you may have some things to learn before setting up any kind of servers...
[14:45] <dr_willis> alisunjaya_: is there some reason you are using the alpha version?
[14:46] <justsighdudes> ikonia: Sorry, could you repeat what you said re: chrooting daemons? irssi is not playing nice.
[14:47] <Valkyr> Question - If I can't see anything at all of the screen, how would I apply any changes to the APCI?
[14:47] <Valkyr> ACPI*
[14:47] <playman> bluefrog: well i'm trying to learn :) i'm just new to the whole server thing. all i'm trying to do now is to setup a fog server to take care of image installing on PC's I have to format. wanted to be able to store the install image on a server and use the ethernet to setup the pc's
[14:47] <justsighdudes> ikonia: Nevermind. Just discovered /LASTLOG
[14:48] <escott> Valkyr, it could be that the flashlight is just not bright enough, but that the LCD is still active and updating, but the particular configuration of the display means you absolutely cannot read anything without the backlight
[14:48] <a11> hi
[14:48] <bluefrog> playman, have a look at clonezilla. might be easier for you to understand / put in place
[14:49] <playman> bluefrog: you gotta start somewhere right?
[14:49] <escott> Valkyr, the fact that this happens when you try and change the backlight is obviously suggestive of a backlight related issue, and the backlight is controlled through ACPI and there be the dragons there
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> DR WILLS? alpha i uer realase ubuntu 11.04 no alpha?
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> but 12.04 alpha?
[14:50] <playman> bluefrog: wery well, i've gotten used to ppl giving up on me any way. i'll check that clonezilla
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> hahahahahah
[14:50] <alisunjaya_> lol
[14:50] <kalimojo> is it possible for someone to send a malicious link to firefox and hijackt it under ubuntu ?
[14:50] <Valkyr> @escott - Okay.  If I can see it then, then should I assume that something like resetting things to their default configs would bring it back?
[14:50] <escott> Valkyr, do you know much about ACPI?
[14:50] <bluefrog> playman, not a problem of giving up on you. teaching networking and so on is not something you do over IRC
[14:51] <bluefrog> playman, takes time to learn.
[14:51] <Valkyr> Nothing at all.  I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 running GNOME Shell.
[14:52] <wormmd> Thoughts?
[14:52] <ikonia> wormmd: check the configuration files, see if they are blanked
[14:53] <kalimojo> is it possible for someone to send a malicious link to firefox and hijackt it under ubuntu ??
[14:53] <playman> bluefrog: yeah I know. I was able to setup my own DHCP server on the ubuntu machine, so seting up the fog should not have been so much trouble, except it seems to have deleted all the settings i've made and left me in the dark.
[14:53] <martian> Is it possible to launch a gnome-terminal and have its task icon be something custom?
[14:53] <a11> ciao a tutti
[14:53] <ikonia> kalimojo: depends if they know a security hole
[14:53] <escott> Valkyr, so its a set of "standards". by the standards the kernel looks up some table in the bios and the table indicates that by putting values x,y,z into register location r the hardware will change settings in some nice way, but half the time those bios tables are wrong (or the hardware is not following the standard) so the kernel says I have 10 backlight levels with register values x1 to x10, but the hardware is not following those va
[14:53] <escott> lues the way the kernel thinks it should. so the kernel thinks it is lowering the backlight to the middle level, but its actually turning the backlight off
[14:54] <kalimojo> dr_willis : are you saying its possible for malicious web sites to compromise firefox on ubunhtu ?
[14:54] <ikonia> kalimojo: if the person writing the attack knows of a security hole, sure
[14:54] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox dealio to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a ubuntu-minimal 11.04 install here
[14:54] <escott> Valkyr, and so you need to find a workaround to deal with your (broken) backlight and handle it differently. the kernel has various boot options including some that will change the acpi backlight handling
[14:54] <ikonia> kalimojo: I can break into fort knocks if I know there is a hole in their security
[14:55] <bastidrazor> ikonia: can i be a part of your team. i can drive the getaway car.
[14:55] <Valkyr> escott - so then the workaround would start with something from the bios screen? (booting with F* or something)?
[14:55] <dr_willis> kalimojo:  worse case user may mess up stuff in their home. but unlikely
[14:55] <Valkyr> F8* sorry.
[14:56] <escott> Valkyr, see http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_ACPI_work (although this has more kernel compile related stuff which you dont want to do) http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[14:56] <escott> Valkyr, so the workaround is to figure out if someone has the same laptop as you and has posted a solution
[14:56] <Valkyr> Thank you!
[14:56] <CharminTheMoose> dang, chroot install rather
[14:56] <kalimojo> ikonia : are you saying firefox is vulnerable ?
[14:56] <escott> Valkyr, if not then you can modify /etc/default/grub to include some of these kernel boot parameters to try and make the backlight work
[14:57] <ikonia> kalimojo: all software "may" be vulnerable the problem is you don't know of a vulnerablility until someone finds it
[14:57] <Trevor69420> ikonia, if you broke into fort knox u'd be terribly disappointed
[14:57] <escott> Valkyr, in particular acpi_backlight=[vendor,video] option
[14:57] <HoNgOuRu> is there any way of recovering the volume indicator in gnome 3 ?
[14:57] <dr3mro> hello , I use ubuntu 11.10 and i have this USB disk with very important powerpoint files that i have deleted by accident by shift+delete .. can any one help
[14:57] <escott> HoNgOuRu, what volume indicator?
[14:57] <kalimojo> ikonia : are there any KNOWN vulnerabilities in FIREFOX ? that you know of ?
[14:58] <HoNgOuRu> the icon next to the time.
[14:58] <escott> !testdisk | dr3mro
[14:58] <HoNgOuRu> to control the audioo
[14:58] <ikonia> kalimojo: check the securit CVE reports, that will show you current alerts and versions
[14:58] <escott> !undelete | dr3mro
[14:58] <dr_willis> kalimojo:  check the various browser security sites
[14:58] <wormmd> kalimojo, I'm really curious as to why you're so curious...
[14:59] <escott> dr3mro, assuming that this is a vfat usb stick testdisk or photorec should handle the situation fairly well. just umount that partition so that you aren't writing anything to it
[14:59] <dr3mro> escott, photorec is able to retore ppt files?
[14:59] <escott> HoNgOuRu, there is an icon just to the left of the networking icon which is sound
[15:00] <HoNgOuRu> escott that one is gone!
[15:00] <escott> dr3mro, i don't know if photorec identifies ppts, but testdisk should be able to read the old fat entries
[15:01] <HoNgOuRu> escott, that one is missing
[15:02] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox dealio to just use gksudo, rather than gksu?  After rebooting ubuntu (and using it forever and a day) all of a sudden it's starting up in intramfs/busybox, is there anything I can do to prevent this? Or any commands to run to help you help me?
[15:02] <HoNgOuRu> only the dog barking ...the rest is gray like disabled
[15:02] <anhday> people, should i ask source /etc/profile in my .bashrc?
[15:02] <dr_willis> i thought on ubuntu gksu and gksudo we identical.
[15:02] <kalimojo> wormmd ; cos i think ive been hacked thats why
[15:03] <maasha> hey, how do you set an environment variable using bash on ubuntu as root? methinks the root account is disabled - and sudo export don't work.
[15:03] <nkrypt_> it's ok, I can wait :)
[15:03] <kalimojo> someone sent me a link of a mudkip and my browser was asked to restart. its done several odd things since then.
[15:03] <escott> HoNgOuRu, sounds like you have a more general alsa/pulse-audio issue
[15:03] <dr_willis> maasha:  /root/.bashrc perhaps
[15:03] <kalimojo> wormmd someone sent me a link of a mudkip and my browser was asked to restart. its done several odd things since then.
[15:03] <HoNgOuRu> I uninstalled alsa
[15:04] <HoNgOuRu> cause flash videos were playing with no sound at all
[15:04] <escott> HoNgOuRu, and what did you expect would happen then
[15:04] <dr_willis> maasha:  sudo export would be pointless
[15:04] <HoNgOuRu> I got pissed off
[15:04] <HoNgOuRu> escott, :) ,,, sound is working.
[15:04] <maasha> dr_willis: yes, what is the way?
[15:05] <dr_willis> maasha:  totally depends on the details.  root has their own .profile and .bashrc
[15:07] <xubuntu5>  can i send an x11 application to the background via the terminal if i start it with the terminal?
[15:07] <escott> xubuntu5, ctrl-z; bg
[15:08] <maasha> dr_willis: I need to run sudo gem update --system. That can only be done if a certain env variable is set.
[15:08] <xubuntu5> and that will send my x11 app away? but still available?
[15:08] <kernix> hi all could someone tell me how to find out from the cli what version my kernel is please ?
[15:08] <dr_willis> maasha:  make a script that sets the variables and does the command perhaps
[15:08] <escott> HoNgOuRu, im not sure how anything on your system is working. obv you couldn't have completely removed alsa as that is your kernel sound driver. but what exactly you did remove is unclear
[15:08] <escott> kernix, uname -a
[15:09] <xubuntu5> will that ctrl-z work if the app is being x11 forwarded
[15:09] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox dealio to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a debootstrap 11.04 install here
[15:09] <kernix> thanks escott
[15:09] <escott> xubuntu5, why would it not?
[15:09] <xubuntu5> it doesnt' seem to work when i press ctrl-z app still runs in the x window
[15:09] <xubuntu5> doesn't seem to disappear
[15:09] <escott> xubuntu5, what do you mean by background?
[15:10] <HoNgOuRu> escott, I was really tired of fixing sound issues with firefox/chrome and flash, so the moment I uninstalled alsa it started working...
[15:10] <xubuntu5> the hope is that i can start an application on my computer via X forwarding send it to the background and then open it up on the computer itself
[15:10] <dr_willis> xubuntu5:  it wont work that way
[15:10] <xubuntu5> darn
[15:10] <maasha> dr_willis: right
[15:10] <xubuntu5> thanks for your help
[15:10] <dr_willis> you dont just shift its output to a different display
[15:11] <xubuntu5> can't be done at all?
[15:11] <dr_willis> via vnc.. yes
[15:11] <escott> xubuntu5, ok you want to switch what server it appears on. much harder. can be done with screen and an xserver in between
[15:11] <dr_willis> but it will take extra work  xubuntu5
[15:12] <xubuntu5> hmmm
[15:12] <xubuntu5> i do use byobu
[15:12] <zykotick9> escott: do you mean it's possible to "screen" xorg applications?
[15:13] <HoNgOuRu> escott,  I'll reinstall alsa and try to fix future sound problems with other ways...thank you for the time spent.
[15:13] <escott> zykotick9, if you start it in screen and run it to an xnest (could not think of the program) instance
[15:13] <xubuntu5> xnest hmmm will try that
[15:13] <escott> xubuntu5, vnc is a lot easier
[15:13] <tumppu> aika ruskean näköstä kultaa
[15:14] <escott> xubuntu5, but if you dont want vnc look into screen+xpra/xnest/xmove
[15:14] <dr_willis> a hidden minimal vnc session, lete you get to the app from any pc. ;)
[15:14] <xubuntu5> i do have x11vnc set up probably just easier to keep using that lol than  screen+xpra/xnest/xmove
[15:15] <dr_willis> xubuntu5:   you can set vnc to share a minimal desktop.  not the whole desktop
[15:16] <xubuntu5> and minimal desktop being just 1 application?
[15:16] <maasha> dr_willis: thanks
[15:16] <maasha> exit
[15:16] <chown_> man its hard to get freenode under sasl on ubuntu
[15:16] <dr_willis> and a mini window manager like jwm
[15:17] <xubuntu5> is jwm better than icewm?
[15:17] <dr_willis> chown_:  yep. got issues with that on my android
[15:17] <dr_willis> jwm is smaller
[15:17] <xubuntu5> less resources too?
[15:17] <xubuntu5> thanks for your help
[15:17] <dr_willis> icewm is old skool and showing its age
[15:17] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[15:17] <xubuntu5> wow
[15:17] <xubuntu5> will try that!
[15:17] <xubuntu5> thanks!
[15:17] <Guest99805> hey
[15:18] <xubuntu5> sudo apt-get install jwm time :)
[15:18] <Guest99805> what is the best channel for learn to hack ?
[15:18] <xubuntu5> not this one
[15:18] <xubuntu5> might want to learn linux first though :) and then learn some programming skills
[15:18] <roasted_> RAID Question - Someone had told me you should use software raid with the entire disk, meaning mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda, but EVERY single guide I read says mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1, where you would add the partition to the raid. Is there an advantage to using the drive?
[15:18] <dr_willis> 'learn to hack' is  a vague and silly statement.
[15:19] <dr_willis> go learn python, or bash ;)
[15:19] <xubuntu5> i like perl myself
[15:19] <escott> roasted_, you should always have a partition table. very dangerous to not have one
[15:19] <roasted_> escott: so you would vote /dev/sda1?
[15:19] <escott> roasted_, yes
[15:19] <roasted_> escott: I haven't seen a single guide not use that method, I began to wonder why that user told me to use the entire drive...
[15:19] <escott> roasted_, but sda1 can be the entire disk
[15:20] <roasted_> escott: oh it is, but even still he said use sda not sda1, etc.
[15:20] <roasted_> escott: I began hitting up guides to see if that advice he gave showed up and in no guides did it.
[15:20] <martian> Guest99805: 'hacking' means knowing a lot about programming, operating systems and their internals, and common programming mistakes. Start by spending a lot of time writing C
[15:21] <escott> roasted_, think about what happens if you dont have a partition table and take your data disk and put it in another machine... that machine sees the entire disk as unallocated. one drunken night later you "found" this empty disk and reformatted it, but whatever happened to your previous disk
[15:21] <xubuntu5> this jwm is sweet does it have any settings to configure at all such as hotkeys/keybindings??
[15:21] <sun_devil> Anyone know how to printer to a home network wireless printer.  Sorry to say its a Kodak esp7
[15:21] <dr_willis> xubuntu5: yes. ..
[15:22] <roasted_> escott: I didn't think it made sense either. I couldn't get too much info out of the guy because he was very beligerent and very "just do it this way and don't ask qu estions". Yeah okay...
[15:22] <zykotick9> escott: i wasn't able to find anything regarding screen+xnest from my initial search, best i could find was VNC.  This slashdot comments section mentions Xorg+screen several times (all stating not possible, or use VNC) http://ask.slashdot.org/story/08/06/29/1417247/persistent-terminals-for-a-dedicated-computing-box  It would be very cool, but i was certainly under the impression it wasn't possible.
[15:22] <xubuntu5> where do i / how do i configure that? thanks again for all your help
[15:23] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox box to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a debootstrap 11.04 install here
[15:23] <dr_willis> zykotick9: saw a flakey way to do it years ago. .
[15:24] <zykotick9> dr_willis: it would be very cool... I'm not a fan of VNC, but a true "screen" plus Xforwarding on SSH would be very cool.
[15:24] <escott> zykotick9, it ends up being much the same config as vnc. you run app -> xnest -> true display, but can switch the true display around behind the xnest (or xpra or xmove) instance without everything crashing.
[15:25] <escott> zykotick9, its possible that im wrong in that xnest can do this. it may not have all the bits needed to do the switching, but xpra xmove are built to do exactly this
[15:26] <dr_willis> !info xmove
[15:26] <zykotick9> escott: thanks, it's certainly something I'll look into.
[15:26] <escott> !info xpra
[15:27] <sun_devil> Trying to print to a Kodak ESP 7 wireless,  I don't think Ubuntu 10.4 supports that printer, cant find driver
[15:28] <zykotick9> escott: http://code.google.com/p/partiwm/wiki/xpra starts with "Xpra gives you "persistent remote applications" for X." then later "So basically it's screen for remote X apps." sounds promising.
[15:28] <martian> CharminTheMoose: Doesn't firefox just launch an ubuntu application to find them? In other words, I don't think it's firefox that does the gksu but is actually some other tool
[15:28] <dr_willis> check the cups.org site sun_devil
[15:30] <sl33k_> what command  to use to update to a newer version of firefox?
[15:30] <dr_willis> !ff
[15:30] <sun_devil> I tried that and they don't offer anything, I think it needs a certain driver.  Looked at the FAQ etc and nothing
[15:31] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[15:31] <razor85> How do I remove a program installed from source again? "sudo make clean" does not work. What other options do I have?
[15:31] <sun_devil> Cups.org only offers (3) Kodak drivers?
[15:31] <cousin_luigi> Is it possible to remove every jre/jdk from the system? I tried, but the results aren't encouraging http://pastebin.com/HQeXaAZs .
[15:32] <dr_willis> theres linuxprinting.org also
[15:32] <escott> razor85, make uninstall but it may be too late if you already made clean. use checkinstall next time
[15:32] <martian> razor85: try make uninstall. make clean just cleans up temporary files created when compiling
[15:32] <arand> razor85: make uninstall    provided the makefile supplies that, otherwise, do it manually...
[15:33] <arand> razor85: Hmm, you could probably do a checkinstall, and then remove it afterwards, that might get rid of it easier
[15:33] <escott> razor85, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[15:33] <sun_devil> Tried a test page and its says connected to local printer but nothing happens
[15:34] <dr_willis> check the cups logs? enable verbose logginh
[15:34] <razor85> arand, escoot, martian: it says No rule to make target 'checkinstall' same with uninstall
[15:35] <arand> razor85: checkinstall is an application, used instead of make install
[15:36] <Ebron> uhm.. I connected to my home computer from work through ssh, now I'm home and see that I forgot to terminate the connection - how can I do that from this end?
[15:36] <rumpe1> razor85, not "make checkinstall", just "checkinstall"
[15:36] <arand> razor85: It might work to do "sudo checkinstall" and then "sudo apt-get purge foobar"
[15:36] <escott> Ebron, you can just kill the parent shell that the session started. when ssh sees the child process die it will terminate the connection
[15:37] <FreeTech> Hi, I'm new here, Do most people use this server or irc.ubuntu.net
[15:37] <theadmin> FreeTech: ubuntu.net isn't official for all I know. The official Ubuntu channel is this one.
[15:37] <FreeTech> thanks
[15:37] <arand> FreeTech: Aren't they the same?
[15:38] <razor85> arand: I first used "checkinstall lshell" and then "apt-get purge lshell"
[15:38] <razor85> arand: none owrks
[15:38] <theadmin> FreeTech: Actually, seems ubuntu.net as a website redirects to ubuntu.com so hm... Not sure, but still, this is the official channel
[15:38] <chown_> Is tehre a problem if i change my user name? My user home folder will change also?
[15:38] <cousin_luigi> ubuntu.net belongs to the spotchat network
[15:38] <dr_willis> i thought ubuntu.net as a freenode server
[15:38] <djQuery> the update manage keeps showing that there are updates available but when I click on it it doesnt open
[15:38] <escott> razor85, did you install checkinstall first?
[15:38] <martian> CharminTheMoose: So, the application that actually does the work is gnome-codec-install which firefox simply launches, so THAT is what would need to change
[15:38] <razor85> escot: yes
[15:38] <razor85> escott*
[15:38] <arand> razor85: That's not how to use checkinstall, see my comment above
[15:38] <mr_pause> hello
[15:38] <djQuery> last thing I think I installed before this happened was playonlinux
[15:38] <mr_pause> Does anyone know how to configure the DHCP configuration priority ?
[15:39] <Ebron> escott: you mean something like 'ps waux|grep ssh|grep tty' followed by kill pid?
[15:39] <mr_pause> I mean, i have two intefaces, both using DHCP, and the second one is overwriting DNS setting (/etc/resolv.conf) of the first one
[15:39] <Ebron> where tty is the appropriate tty
[15:39] <mr_pause> I need this the other way around
[15:39] <escott> Ebron, i would kill the bash instance not the ssh instance. look at pstree to find the parent
[15:39] <CharminTheMoose> martian, was that intended for me?
[15:39] <razor85> arand: So what's the purpose of checkinstall, it just installs it for me again. It says "Debian package creation selected." I didn't see you mentioned how to use it.
[15:40] <escott> razor85, but now there is an instance in the database so you can ask apt to remove it
[15:40] <arand> djQuery: What happens if you run "sudo apt-get install -f in a terminal" (just see what it says)
[15:40] <zykotick9> razor85: once the DEB is created, install the deb "sudo dpkg -i FILENAME.deb"
[15:40] <lampe2> hey iam useing ubuntu 12.04 and i cant install java7... i found a ppa but the key dont work can some one help?
[15:41] <zykotick9> razor85: checkinstall is VERY handy, especially if you want to remove the package cleanly
[15:41] <sun_devil> Ubuntu is not very compatible with many printers
[15:41] <cousin_luigi> lampe2: are you using webupd8team/java ?
[15:41] <CharminTheMoose> martian, my bad, saw your other reply. Well I mean once I've selected the plugin to install, another box comes up that asks me for my password that looks very similar to gksu. And I know fromm previous experience that gksu-ing as root on ubuntu is a no-go.
[15:41] <martian> CharminTheMoose: Line 91 of /usr/share/pyshared/GnomeCodecInstall/PackageWorker.py
[15:41] <lampe2> cousin_luigi,  no is there one from them? i will look for it
[15:41] <dr_willis> sun_devil: its more like the printer makers dont support cups
[15:41] <cousin_luigi> lampe2: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[15:41] <arand> zykotick9: Hmm, does chekcinstall set a different prefix by the way?
[15:42] <zykotick9> arand: it might?  no idea.
[15:42] <martian> CharminTheMoose: you could just edit that to be gksudo :)
[15:42] <sun_devil> Kodak most likely has never heard of cups or Linux, so Iam not going to bother to call them, I know what they will say
[15:42] <lampe2> thx cousin_luigi
[15:42] <Ebron> escott: what would have happened to the shell if I killed the ssh-process instead?
[15:42] <zykotick9> sun_devil: would you claim "apple doesn't support many printers"? as they own CUPS
[15:43] <dr_willis> sun_devil:  i bet they have heard of it.. its also used by os-x
[15:43] <dr_willis> apple bought cups   ;}
[15:43] <djQuery> arand, it gives me a list of no longer required packages and this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[15:43] <sun_devil> I dont own a apple and somehow got mixed up with Kodak, which was a mistake
[15:43] <escott> Ebron, the shell should also die, but your ssh server might be confused by the sudden death of its children. if you dont care about that service ssh restart
[15:43] <zykotick9> dr_willis: a while ago, been to cups page in the last few years?
[15:44] <dr_willis> avoid canon printers also
[15:44] <razor85> zykotick9, escott: Please have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855473/ . I really don't know what to do.
[15:44] <cousin_luigi> lampe2: do you happen to know how to completely remove the other java virtual machines?
[15:44] <dr_willis> kodak went bankrupt this year?
[15:44] <bindi> hey, can anyone recommend me a SIP/SIMPLE server software?
[15:44] <ikonia> dr_willis: only the film processing gruop
[15:44] <ikonia> group
[15:44] <CharminTheMoose> martian, How strange, on this debootstrap install, I don't seem to have /usr/share/pyshared/GnomeCodecInstall folder. :/
[15:44] <zykotick9> razor85: the important part being "You are in a limited shell."
[15:45] <sun_devil> Dont call Kodak, you get someone from India, no wonder Kodak is going BK
[15:45] <djQuery> arand, the update manager does open onto the "taskbar?" and I can right click on it and choose install updates.  it just never opens its windows when clickin on it
[15:45] <razor85> zykotick9: I was installing as root, in a unlimited shell the whole time.
[15:45] <razor85> uninstalling*
[15:45] <arand> razor85: A looks like checkinstall uses a prefix or something :(
[15:45] <Chipzzz> bindi: apache can be fairly simple
[15:45] <Ebron> escott: thank you :)
[15:45] <escott> razor85, you might have confused apt by installing a deb when the files already existed. im not sure what apt will do when asked to remove a deb which installed files that already existed
[15:45] <bindi> Chipzzz: what, apache? i'm pretty sure that's not a SIP server
[15:46] <martian> CharminTheMoose: weird. do you have a binary called gnome-codec-install? type "which gnome-codec-install"
[15:46] <zykotick9> razor85: ah sorry, there are two commands in your paste - my bad
[15:46] <Chipzzz> sorry... thought the sip was a typing mistake
[15:46] <razor85> arand, escott, zykotick9: What's the best thing to do now
[15:46] <`korvin> I'm trying to install wine, it keeps asking me to insert the kubuntu disc
[15:47] <CharminTheMoose> martian, Hmm, nope, I don't either.
[15:47] <escott> razor85, if the checkinstall doesnt remove the binary you have to make uninstall and pray it doesn't remove anything you need
[15:47] <arand> razor85: Well I'm guessing you're back to where you started, so removing manually, I guess?
[15:47] <turbotax> hi everyone
[15:47] <cousin_luigi> `korvin: either you insert the disc or remove the local repository
[15:47] <john_____> hi
[15:47] <zykotick9> `korvin: remove CDs from your available repos (somewhere in U.S.C i'd guess)
[15:47] <escott> razor85, you can look at the deb file to audit the files it installed and make sure nothing is critical tehre
[15:47] <sun_devil> I also can't refill my ink because they put a chip on the ink cartridge that tells printer it is empty when you refill it
[15:47] <cousin_luigi> sun_devil: I thought there were workarounds for that
[15:47] <martian> CharminTheMoose: it's a debian distro you say? Not ubuntu? (I don't care heh)
[15:48] <ironhalik> Can I try Unity2d from the live cd? When I logout, check Unity2d log back in, it always starts Unity3D
[15:48] <razor85> escott: Seems a good idea, will do that.
[15:48] <sun_devil> Nobody figured it out, even the places that make money refilling cartridges, if they had a workaround, they would use it to make money
[15:49] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, refill services that refill your cartridges replacereset those chips... Costco does for sure
[15:49] <ilari_> Hello folks! Have anyone else problems with flash since last update? Youtube-videos still works somehow but almost nothing else will. Rightclicking videos shows that ''AVM2 - not supported''
[15:49] <arand> razor85: Which application is it by the way?
[15:49] <wormmd> I've internet'd all over the place for this: how do I remove gnome-panel?
[15:49] <sun_devil> Nope, tried it. They cant reset the chip
[15:49] <CharminTheMoose> martian, it's a debootstrapped ubuntu 11.04 install. So a basic install of bash, few other libs etc, then I chrooted into it and started adding packages from the official repositories. No Gnome/KDE DE stuff either.
[15:49] <wormmd> I'm running GNOME 3 Shell and the panel is showing up behind my transparent application bar.
[15:49] <shubbar> my Logitech webcam has vertical lines. Its C270, it should work as its in the compatible list
[15:49] <martian> CharminTheMoose: oh nevermind I see what it is. Hmm. I don't know. Without being in the environment to poke around not much I can tell. Try to figure out what the binary is called that FF is calling to do the loading, view the source and see what's happening :-/
[15:49] <razor85> arand: It's lshell, a limited shell.
[15:49] <ff> s
[15:50] <ironhalik> shubbar: I know its not helpfull, but it works for me out of the box
[15:50] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, interesting... Costco does it for me all the time... they replace the chip I believe
[15:50] <martian> CharminTheMoose: so despite the minimal userspace, FF still loads the install plugins thingy?
[15:50] <ironhalik> shubbar: I had some color issues with older nvidia drivers, had to use noveau or the latest ones from nvidia
[15:50] <shubbar> ironhalik, it the picture crisp clear?
[15:50] <ironhalik> shubbar: right now, yes
[15:51] <Gentoo64> http://goo.gl/67JW8
[15:51] <razor85> escott: What's the best way to check the files the deb uses? Just install the deb again with -i ?
[15:51] <sun_devil> For Kodak?  I have been to refill businesses and they turn me away
[15:51] <CharminTheMoose> martian, yes, the plugin-service-finder or so the taskbar says. Which then calls something that looks like gksu, when I'd rather have it run gksudo. :)
[15:51] <martian> CharminTheMoose: I may have to look in to this debootstrap thing myself. been meaning to learn how to create a nice safe chroot environment for others to be able to develop on my servers
[15:51] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, what printer cartridge do you use?
[15:51] <shubbar> ironhalik, does nivida driver affect the webcam operation?
[15:52] <wormmd> I've internet'd all over the place for this: how do I remove gnome-panel?
[15:52] <wormmd> I'm running GNOME 3 Shell and the panel is showing up behind my transparent application bar.
[15:52] <CyberDawg> sun_devil, oh I dont know about Kodak stuff
[15:52] <ironhalik> shubbar: for me it did
[15:52] <zykotick9> sun_devil: be sure to consider your experience, and do more research, before purchasing a printer next time.
[15:52] <CyberDawg> sun_devil,  google is our friend :)
[15:53] <arand> razor85: YOu can use "dpkg --contents lshell.deb"
[15:53] <martian> CharminTheMoose: what's the difference between gksu and gksudo anyway?
[15:53] <sun_devil> It has a color and b & w cartridges.    10b and 10c
[15:53] <razor85> arand: Ah okay, will try it now.
[15:53] <escott> razor85, -c
[15:53] <arand> razor85: Isn't lshell using the python setup.py instead?
[15:53] <CharminTheMoose> martian, ah cool. Likewise I've been wanting to investigate ssh chroot jails etc.
[15:53] <zykotick9> martian: on relies on su the other sudo (on ubuntu, i see no real difference)
[15:54] <Chipzzz> mormmd: have you tried auto-hiding the gnome panel?
[15:54] <CharminTheMoose> on ubuntu, you can't access root with su, even by setting a password, from what I've tried.
[15:54] <sun_devil> Hopefully others can learn from my mistake, its a family printer that I did not buy
[15:54] <CharminTheMoose> su/gksu rather
[15:54] <razor85> arand85: now you got me wondering. I'm not sure if that's just for the makefile
[15:54] <wormmd> Chipzzz, I can't access any settings for it in gconf-editor
[15:54] <Ovan>  /join #iutas
[15:54] <razor85> arand* woops
[15:54] <escott> !root | CharminTheMoose
[15:54] <sun_devil> Although I should be able to print to it somehow
[15:54] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: gksu works just fine
[15:54] <razor85> arand: Honestly I can't even remember how I installed it, since it was a while ago.
[15:55] <sun_devil> I works fine on Vista, but Ubuntu is a pain
[15:55] <shubbar> ironhalik, which nvidia driver version are you using? I'm using 280.13
[15:55] <arand> razor85: In case it does use the setup.py, it looks like the installed files are all listed in that script, in fact...
[15:55] <CharminTheMoose> escott, I did set a root password, so I know what it is. trouble is, gksu doesn't accept it/
[15:56] <CharminTheMoose> Hence my issue.
[15:56] <ironhalik> shubbar: for me, the open source ones, nouveau work best, when I tried the nvidia ones, the latest were better then the 173
[15:56] <Gentoo64> CharminTheMoose, i think gksu has a properties gui where you can choose su or sudo
[15:56] <Gentoo64> i think if its set to sudo gksu is linked to gksudo
[15:56] <razor85> arand: I see, do you know the python argument to remove/uninstall?
[15:56] <martian> CharminTheMoose: anyway, maybe if you bring up the plugin-service-finder then hit ctrl-alt-f1, log in, and inspect what processes are running, you could find the actual binary
[15:57] <arand> razor85: Unfortunately there are none.
[15:57] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: have you tried running any Xorg applications from your chroot (i'm guessing they currently will all fail to start)?   gksu(do) is an X based application.
[15:57] <sun_devil> I have used the scanner and printer options on Vista, but Ubuntu only offers (4) known drivers
[15:57] <arand> razor85: But like I said, look in that script, I think the files are enumerated there
[15:57] <razor85> arand: Yeah, they are. Doesn't look to harmless. What should I do now?
[15:58] <CharminTheMoose> Gentoo64, martian both very good ideas, I'll try them out.
[15:58] <Edson_JR> hi
[15:58] <arand> Well, manually remove them, I guess?
[15:58] <sun_devil> I searches for drivers but comes up empty
[15:58] <CharminTheMoose> zykotick9, yep I have, just did a export DISPLAY=:1 and have a xnest xserver running
[15:58] <dr_willis> sun_devil: checked askubuntu.com yet?
[15:58] <sun_devil> no
[15:59] <razor85> arand: Well, I'm not even sure how to do that, since uninstall does not work
[15:59] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: and are you feeding that same export to gksu(do)?
[15:59] <colby> what channel can i go to for ubuntu help?
[15:59] <razor85> arand: You mean to remove the files?
[15:59] <zykotick9> colby: this one.  Ask your question.
[15:59] <CharminTheMoose> zykotick9, Yep, am running it from a terminal in the nested X
[16:00] <colby> i installed ubuntu 11.10 on an old p3 850mhz comp. after installation, i updated it and now when the computer boots, i get the grub>
[16:00] <colby> how do i fix it?
[16:01] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[16:01] <sun_devil> Should it really be that complicated to print from Ubuntu?
[16:01] <bluetuga2000> hi. could someone tell me where is located the directory os the themes
[16:01] <Gentoo64> bluetuga2000, /usr/share/themes
[16:01] <zykotick9> sun_devil: if you have a compatible printer, just plugging it in sometimes works.
[16:01] <bluetuga2000> thank you Gentoo64
[16:02] <Gentoo64> bluetuga2000, or ~/.themes for local ones
[16:02] <dr_willis> my printers work great in linux
[16:02] <laan> hello.. i have a question on openldap
[16:02] <giakar> ciao
[16:02] <dr_willis> plug in..  click a thing..  and go
[16:03] <zykotick9> dr_willis: my brother laser is the same
[16:03] <laan> does anybody knows a good tutorial to set up a openldap enviroment?
[16:03] <dr_willis> yep.  networked brother laser
[16:03] <zykotick9> dr_willis: no, cheap USB.
[16:03] <CuiZhe> Hi~
[16:03] <sun_devil> Its a wireless printer, should'nt it printer wireless?
[16:04] <zykotick9> sun_devil: you're almost certain to run into issues with wireless
[16:04] <martian> laan: Not off the top of my head, but I bet a simple google search would come up with many
[16:04] <sun_devil> I punched in the printer IP and the computer sees it
[16:04] <dr_willis> sun_devil:  check the cups Web interface?
[16:04] <dr_willis> it may have settings to tweak
[16:04] <sun_devil> I tried cups interface last time, too complicated and after hours, did not work
[16:05] <martian> sun_devil: you may have broken the IP when you punched it :)
[16:05] <zykotick9> sun_devil: is it possible to plug it in via USB to test?
[16:05] <sun_devil> tapped it
[16:05] <dr_willis> how vague.  :)
[16:05] <Edson_JR> Is there any development on the Ubuntu project for Android? He wanted to know someone is inside it ...
[16:05] <ikonia> Edson_JR: what ?
[16:05] <zykotick9> Edson_JR: try #ubuntu-phone perhaps
[16:06] <razor85> I installed this program called lshell, for limiting shell commands for others. I can't get it removed now. I manually removed the files but it's still showing up when I run the command. What do I do? And of course I tried all the uninstallation methods before that.
[16:06] <dr_willis> many printers have related frivers from other models that may work
[16:06] <ikonia> HP is a good example of that
[16:07] <Edson_JR> thanks Zykotick9
[16:07] <sun_devil> I will try the USB
[16:10] <zykotick9> Edson_JR: using TAB is a lot easier to complete nicks
[16:10] <escott> razor85, run "which lshell" and figure out where the binary is
[16:12] <razor85> escott: Thank you, you saved me from this trouble :P It's removed now.
[16:12] <starpile> I'm using rsync to download my entire webroot, I'd like to exclude ALL folder named .git will --exclude '.git' accomplish this?
[16:13] <starpile> (There are multiple repositories in the targeted directory
[16:14] <escott> razor85, there is sure to be other stuff too. like a man page and the like. also you should note that something like lshell would have to be very carefully constructed to make it work, its basically impossible to do correctly. a single interpreter and the whole security setup falls over
[16:14] <razor85> escott: There is entries in /etc/passwd. Sure there are man pages, but those won't really bother me I guess?
[16:14] <razor85> escott: It's no problem to remove those entries though.
[16:15] <Promille> !msg ubottu kasablanca
[16:17] <Promille> Does anyone know why "kasablanca"(kasablanca.berlios.de) was removed from reps? Compiling it gives the error message: "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail."
[16:17] <Promille> So, check this please and use another prefix
[16:17] <ikonia> Promille I didn't know it was ever in the repos
[16:17] <Promille> ikonia: it was http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/natty/universe/base/kasablanca
[16:18] <meegooo> whats difference between alternate image cd and main one ?
[16:18] <meegooo> in 12.04
[16:19] <ikonia> meegooo: the installer
[16:19] <Hiob10hiob> i think the alternate one is not a live cd
[16:19] <Hiob10hiob> you can just install from it
[16:19] <ikonia> meegooo: 12.04 support discussion is in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[16:19] <ikonia> Promille: best bet would be to mail the kubuntu mail list and ask the developmnent team
[16:19] <meegooo> ok, thanks
[16:20] <starsinmypockets> .
[16:20] <sun_devil> I hooked up printer via usb,  should I go with jetdirect with IP port 9100 or 2nd option of Kodak with device as printer?
[16:21] <Tarks> sun_devil probably the kodac option - jet direct works over the network I believe
[16:21] <starsinmypockets> Sorry for the repost I got disconnected: I'm trying to rsync my entire webroot, which contains multiple .git repositories... is there a way to exclude ALL folders named '.git' ... will --exclude '.git' accomplish this?
[16:21] <ikonia> sun_devil what make is the printer ?
[16:21] <Guest73948> :)
[16:21] <rebe> couple weeks ago I disabled overlay scrollbars, but now I wanna turn it back on, the problem is I don't remember how I disabled it, any hints ?
[16:22] <sun_devil> Kodak will not let me go forward, but I can with the jetdirect.  Its a Kodak ESP 7 wireless
[16:22] <ikonia> sun_devil what make is the printer ?
[16:22] <lamer13300980470> sun_devil there are good exploits for both so its 50/50
[16:22] <lamer13300980470> sun_devil there are good exploits for both so its 50/50
[16:23] <ikonia> lamer13300980470: exploits....really, he just wants the printer working, connected by USB,
[16:23] <escott> starsinmypockets, it should although a nice trick to use with rsync and git is to set your exclude-from-file to be your .gitignore and then put .git into your .gitignore
[16:24] <sun_devil> I did the jetdirect and it search for drivers. Came up with error  and still wants to search. MIght come up with another error
[16:24] <lamer13300980470> if thatds the case either one would do the trick
[16:24] <ikonia> sun_devil: have you looked if the printer actually has any linux support ?
[16:24] <starsinmypockets> escott so that git and rsync share an ignore file... which includes .git
[16:24] <sun_devil> Its a Kodak, it doen't
[16:25] <escott> starsinmypockets, exactly I do it for my box.net account (like a dropbox but the reject hidden . files)
[16:25] <ikonia> sun_devil: ok - so why are you pushing this ?
[16:25] <lamer13300980470> personally i would say kodak over jetdirect (less exploitable and easier to work with)
[16:25] <ikonia> 16:25 < lamer13300980470> personally i would say kodak over jetdirect (less
[16:25] <ikonia> oops
[16:26] <Pici> lamer13300980470: Lets stay on-topic here. This channel is for SUPPORT.
[16:26] <sun_devil> Well its wireless, that does not work, gave up.  Tried USB and it cant find it
[16:26] <ikonia> lamer13300980470: please stop going on about exploits, he's working with a printer
[16:26] <Boardinary> Hello, I am having an issue with the volume change keyboard shortcuts.  They work to change the volume, but there is no feedback "blip" sound played.  Anyone have any idea what the problem could be?
[16:27] <sskalnik_> how to stop a process?
[16:28] <sskalnik_> all I know is "kill <ID>"
[16:28] <escott> sskalnik_, suspend or kill?
[16:28] <R4ndZ> sskalnik_: killall? pkill?
[16:28] <sskalnik_> Is there a stop-process command that takes process names?
[16:28] <bluetuga2000> hi. could someone tell How i can I copy a directory to another in nautilus, with root permission?
[16:28] <escott> sskalnik_, killall
[16:29] <escott> bluetuga2000, you would need a root nautilus window (which I would discourage using)
[16:29] <sun_devil> I go to the Linux database for new printer and search for Kodak, gives (5) older models that are not ESP 7
[16:29] <Pici> sskalnik_: kill `pidof processname`
[16:29] <bluetuga2000> escott It's just to copy a theme to usr/shere/themes
[16:29] <ikonia> sun_devil: anything that of a similar period in time / specification ?
[16:29] <Chipzzz> sskalnik_: htop has a very convenient way of doing that
[16:29] <Boardinary> bluetuga2000, sudo mv -r [directory name here] [destination path here] without brackets
[16:29] <sskalnik_> Cool, thanks all
[16:30] <bluetuga2000> thanks Boardinary
[16:30] <Boardinary> bluetuga2000, thats is cut, copy is cp instead of mv
[16:31] <sskalnik_> Is there any reason to not use the "service <foo> stop" syntax and instead type out the whole path? I always use the newer shorter form, but some of the old hands I know type it all out.
[16:31] <Boardinary> bluetuga2000, so use cp for copy and mv for cut
[16:31] <sun_devil> Easy Share printer doc, driver cups?  ESP 5200 says recommended, another duplex and ditherered?
[16:31] <bluetuga2000> ok . thanks Boardinary
[16:32] <sun_devil> They dont give the specs in years, just the name of the printer
[16:33] <sun_devil> Last time I tried the Easy Share printer-doc.....which did not work
[16:33] <Chipzzz> sskalnik_: the terminal grumbles at me when i don't use the service <foo> stop syntax, so I assume they will deprecate the older style in due course
[16:35] <gener1c> i installed a phaser 6000 printer on my ubuntu 32bit and it works perfectly but when i try to send a print job from another location all i get is tons of lines that start with @pjl
[16:35] <sun_devil> I tried the 5200 recommended.  Gave me a errors saying cups
[16:35] <gener1c> ur talking to me?
[16:35] <sun_devil> Client error not authorized
[16:36] <gener1c> sun_devil: are you talking to me?
[16:36] <sun_devil> I have a feeling its a apt-get install thing
[16:36] <Pici> !who
[16:37] <gener1c> !who sun_devil
[16:37] <LordDeath> I have 3 monitors connected to my radeon hd card
[16:37] <LordDeath> do I need fglrx to use them in ubuntu?
[16:38] <LordDeath> I just want to use them as extended desktop and not as one single eyefinity screen
[16:38] <Tarks> sun_devil -all the available drivers should already be installed. If your printer isnt there, you can check the manufacturers website to see if they provide a linux driver, but its doubtful that they do
[16:38] <sun_devil> ikonia I think its a apt-get install thing
[16:38] <hacked_kernel> what is a good bouncer?
[16:38] <ikonia> sun_devil: what ?
[16:39] <designbybeck> Hello all, I am trying to setup a Public Access computer. I made a 'public' user with a basic password. They aren't part of the admin/root group. When they login, I don't want them to be able to change the password. I don't want them to be able to see the main users home folder contents.
[16:40] <sun_devil> Tarks, not installed and can't find any during a search for drivers.  Kodak does not have links for Linux
[16:40] <designbybeck> can anyone point me in the right direction / best practice to setting such config up?
[16:40] <escott> designbybeck, you should be looking at the guest account which is already enabled on ubuntu
[16:40] <designbybeck> This is going in a public area
[16:40] <shpngld> Hello everybody! I will be forever thankful if somebody help me! I am using xubuntu 11.04 with Firefox 10.0.2. The problem is all the gif animations that appear when browsing (forums in example) are very very choppy :-( I cant even scroll the page! I never have such type of problem w/ older verses of  Xubuntu! Can some1 help?
[16:40] <designbybeck> escott:  I'm acutally using Kubuntu, they told me to come ask in here
[16:40] <escott> designbybeck, and you should also think seriously about setting up a netboot for this device
[16:40] <designbybeck> because of the larger user base
[16:40] <sun_devil> ikonia, sorry, cant get it
[16:40] <ikonia> sun_devil: I don't understand what you are saying
[16:40] <designbybeck> what is a netboot escott?
[16:41] <sun_devil> ikonia, my ubuntu does not show printers in years doing a search for drivers
[16:41] <reesk92> ive got a question about ubuntu install
[16:42] <escott> designbybeck, so look at /usr/sbin/guest-account (although lightdm already does this for you). and always assume that hardware not in your immediate control is compromised so assume your system is compromised and configure it to request a system image off the network from a server you do control
[16:42] <ikonia> sun_devil: don't search in ubuntu - search in things like the cups website
[16:43] <shpngld> Hello everybody! I will be forever thankful if somebody help me! I am using xubuntu 11.04 with Firefox 10.0.2. The problem is all the gif animations that appear when browsing (forums in example) are very very choppy :-( I cant even scroll the page! I never have such type of problem w/ older verses of  Xubuntu! Can some1 help?
[16:43] <designbybeck> hmm, ok i think i understand that concept escott, this is going to have internet access, but not managed or supported by our IT
[16:43] <reesk92> basically im thinking of installing ubuntu on my laptop but im worried abut wether it will cause any issues with samsung recovery studio thats on its own partition
[16:43] <reesk92> if it breaks that partition in anyway i basically loose my windows 7 install media
[16:43] <sun_devil> ikonia, I have been to cups.org and they only offer (4) drivers for Kodak, which do not work
[16:44] <Hiob10hiob> !reesk92 save the patition
[16:44] <escott> designbybeck, does this have IT approval?
[16:44] <ikonia> sun_devil: read read what I said....actually doesn't matter, your printer won't work then, Bad luck
[16:44] <sun_devil> ikonia,  thanks
[16:44] <designbybeck> .....kinda escott.... shhhhhh......
[16:45] <reesk92> Hiob10hiob: you mean make a backup of it
[16:45] <shpngld> please help!
[16:45] <designbybeck> LOL..... yeah they are suppose to come by today to talk about it. The director of the Library approved it and was glad to do so because it served the community.
[16:45] <ikonia> reesk92: it should cause no problems as long as you don't delete the partition
[16:45] <reesk92> not planning to touch it
[16:45] <Hiob10hiob> yes
[16:45] <escott> designbybeck, well be careful. something like this could get you in trouble. Hopefully they can give you the appropriate static ip and then you can configure your bios to point to your desktop/server for the ethernet boot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[16:46] <reesk92> i know which partition it is and i am fairly sure it is controlled by bios so installing grub shouldnt hurt it
[16:46] <HacDan> is there a separate channel discussing ubuntu for android? anyone know?
[16:46] <shpngld> please help!
[16:46] <reesk92> HacDan: i wanna jump in there too
[16:46] <ikonia> HacDan: there is discussion in #ubuntu-phone
[16:47] <HacDan> thank you ikonia
[16:47] <reesk92> lets go HacDan
[16:47] <ksbalaji> Some app is wierdly accessing my hdd. How to find out?
[16:47] <ikonia> be aware though, there is nothing to discuss beyond what's on the website
[16:47] <BluesKaj> shpngld, justask your question
[16:47] <zykotick9> reesk92: you might want to try creating an image backup of your current HD, clonezilla is a livecd capable of doing it.  You'll probably run into the 4 primary partition limit problem with such a system.
[16:48] <shpngld> Hello everybody! I will be forever thankful if somebody help me! I am using xubuntu 11.04 with Firefox 10.0.2. The problem is all the gif animations that appear when browsing (forums in example) are very very choppy :-( I cant even scroll the page! I never have such type of problem w/ older verses of  Xubuntu! Can some1 help?
[16:48] <HacDan> ikonia: I'm looking to do an open-source version as canolical is only appealing to vendors at the moment
[16:48] <reesk92> zyko ill definatley do that
[16:48] <HacDan> s/canolical/canonical
[16:48] <martian> shpngld: sounds like your video card driver may be out of sorts
[16:49] <skypce> hello guys, how can i set super key for launch slingshot in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:49] <ksbalaji> My hdd accessing led is on without reason, other programs are noticeably slow.
[16:49] <shpngld> My video is nvidea mx
[16:49] <ikonia> HacDan: ubuntu is open source
[16:49] <HacDan> yes, but their work for android integration is not.
[16:49] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  I have never have problem like this before w/ prev ver of xubuntu, but when  upgraded, it failed
[16:49] <zykotick9> ikonia: that is debatable
[16:49] <ksbalaji> I had to close ff to get some speed.
[16:49] <ikonia> zykotick9: what is ?
[16:50] <ikonia> HacDan: where does it state it's open/closed
[16:50] <martian> HacDan: so you're looking for another linux distro to install on your phone?
[16:50] <shpngld> BluesKaj, what is the best way to fix the problem u think
[16:51] <HacDan> martian: looking to replicate what they've done
[16:51] <HacDan> ikonia: I emailed them and they responded that it isn't open source at this time
[16:51] <ikonia> HacDan: it's not even released, hence "at this time"
[16:51] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  when i block the image w/ adblock everything is fine, but I dont wanna block absolutely every .gif i encounter....
[16:51] <BluesKaj> shpngld,  have you checked your additional drivers options , I'm not familiar with Xubuntu so i'm not sure where that is because your graphics card driver probly needs updating
[16:52] <HacDan> ikonia: they stated it will released to hardware vendors. I can get you a copy of the email if you'd like
[16:52] <martian> HacDan: How about oh... http://source.android.com/
[16:52] <HacDan> martian: there's nothing in there for ubuntu on android
[16:52] <ikonia> HacDan: no thanks
[16:52] <shpngld> BluesKaj, how can i find that Aditional driver option?
[16:52] <skypce> hello guys, how can i set super key for launch slingshot in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:53] <martian> HacDan: so you want an open source version of something that hasn't been released yet?
[16:53] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  as much as i know xubuntu is debian based and very close to buntu, but made fot older machines like mine
[16:53] <HacDan> martian: sure, sounds about right, and I'm not asking for it, looking for discussion on starting the project
[16:54] <ksbalaji> No luck it seems. OK friends, I shall contact later. Bye!
[16:54] <BluesKaj> shpngld, have you asked in #xubuntu?
[16:54] <shpngld> BluesKaj,  is it on the same server
[16:55] <martian> HacDan: well, if a group of people, not canonical, fork ubuntu and alter it to be suitable for use on a phone, it wouldn't be ubuntu any more. It would just be a debian based OS inspired by ubuntu. Regardless, this is getting rather #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:55] <HacDan> martian: not what I'm looking to do, I'm fine with a stock ubuntu-arm experience
[16:55] <debaino> Installing eclipse from the ubuntu software center.It appears on the programming menu but not yet finished,shows in progress,4 hours now
[16:55] <HacDan> just looking for android integration.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> shpngld,  yes, just click on this  #xubuntu
[16:55] <shpngld> BluesKaj, alright I ll try there, 10xanyway have a good week3nd
[16:55] <Nach0z> one does not simply "integrate" into android
[16:55] <Nach0z> it is folly
[16:56] <andrunix> hi folks. I'm looking to buy a new laptop to load up Ubuntu on. Any suggestions?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> !poll | andrunix
[16:58] <xsl> !info usbmuxd | oneiric
[16:58] <subthalamus> should i be shot for streaming pandora through tor?
[16:59] <xsl> wen i try to remove usbmuxd it wants to remove gvfs-backends* libimobiledevice2* upower* usbmuxd* xfce4-power-manager*
[17:04] <`Korvin> is there a program for mounting an ftps drive?
[17:04] <`Korvin> sftp*
[17:05] <martian> `Korvin: the built in 'connect to server' tool works well for a basic connection
[17:05] <zykotick9> `Korvin: nautilus can quasi-mount stuff
[17:06] <`Korvin> martian, how do I get to that?
[17:07] <martian> `Korvin: um, in 11.10 they moved it... jeez I don't know. dig around. 11.10 ui is useless. For a more advanced approach, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[17:08] <dr_willis> !info sshfs
[17:09] <bellman> why does my system say GNU/Linux has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY?  does this mean ppl can slip in malware into the packages?
[17:09] <theadmin> bellman: Official packages? No. Unofficial ones? Sure.
[17:09] <dr_willis> bellman:  most software says that for legal reasons
[17:10] <bellman> what gates are there on the official packages so that people dont just commit whatever code they please
[17:10] <dr_willis> try to sue ms when word crashes...
[17:11] <dr_willis> offical repos have securitysignatures
[17:11] <ssfdre38> hey how can i change the server SSH MOTD?
[17:11] <martian> bellman: peer review and testing. it's plausible that malicious code could be released, but very unlikely.
[17:11] <dr_willis> paa's are not as safe
[17:11] <martian> !motd | ssfdre38
[17:11] <ssfdre38> nothing
[17:12] <martian> hmm, guess that's a fail. Well, there's some settings in the sshd config file, and you can simply change /etc/motd
[17:12] <Pici> ssfdre38: Take a look at the manpage for motd.tail as well.
[17:12] <dr_willis> The motd is not ssh specific  i belive
[17:13] <ssfdre38> well martian i did change /etc/motd and it didnt change and Pici sure
[17:13] <dr_willis> 'touch .hushlogin' to hide the motd
[17:13] <santosh> How i can use DVD styler for appliction instead of video ?
[17:17] <klemen> hello. i would need some help with java..
[17:17] <dr_willis> !java
[17:17] <klemen> i have all that, i can all so see web pages running java, just one webpage i cant
[17:18] <klemen> of course the most important to me
[17:19] <ssfdre38> klemen, then it can be with their coding and not your system if just one website's java isnt working
[17:19] <klemen> is there anything i can do?
[17:20] <ssfdre38> e-mail the webmaster about the problem and wait
[17:20] <dr_willis> try the oracle java or an older java oe the gpl java
[17:20] <tbws> hey guys, is there a way to upgrade from 10.04->11.1 using apt in the terminal?
[17:20] <reesk92> will a 2.1ghz 2gb of ram 64but cpu be enough to run 11.10 fast
[17:20] <log> !upgrade | tbws
[17:21] <klemen> ok i will try all that, thank you all for now :))
[17:21] <martian> reesk92: 'fast' is all relative, but.. sure
[17:21] <reesk92> ok lets rephrase will if be sluggish
[17:21] <santosh> How i can use DVD styler for appliction instead of video ?
[17:22] <martian> reesk92: probably not. A good video card is important these days too, but it should run fine.
[17:22] <dr_willis> santosh:  clarify the question
[17:23] <reesk92> iits a laptop o i cant do much with the gpu but it is capable of hd graphcs
[17:24] <log> reesk92: It should run fine, to be honest.
[17:24] <santosh> instead of video i want make the dvd of software with menus , sub-menu and with great background thumnails !
[17:25] <reesk92> thats good news i need good news after #ubuntu-phone have upset me
[17:25] <dr_willis> !defaults
[17:26] <tbws> log: thank you
[17:27] <dr_willis> santosh:  no need to msg me. no need to repeate to me what you said in the chennel.
[17:27] <compdoc> how can I add a line feed or carrage return when crontab adds lines to a log?
[17:27] <dr_willis> you can change defuault apps in the settings somewhere..
[17:27] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:27] <compdoc> everything is added to one long line
[17:30] <om26er> is there a way to block someone in xchat?
[17:30] <bastidrazor> om26er: /ignore om26er
[17:35] <reesk92> right im off to install ununtu see you on the other side
[17:39] <banseljaj> Hi.
[17:39] <wingnut2626l> how do i share folders between the host (ubuntu) and the virtual box (windows xp)
[17:39] <banseljaj> I have a laptop connected to a monitor, 11.04
[17:39] <wingnut2626l> ?
[17:40] <banseljaj> How do i get it to show one window on laptop and other window on monitor?
[17:40] <banseljaj> wingnut2626l: Install Guest additons in the virtual OS, and then activate "Shared folders" in settings
[17:41] <wingnut2626l> how do i install the Guest additions
[17:41] <ronsonol> What would cause login to consistently return as incorrect in a virtual terminal (i.e., ctl-alt-F4)?  Yes, I'm using the correct username and password.
[17:42] <L3top> wingnut2626l: apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils
[17:42] <L3top> I think thats right...
[17:42] <L3top> one sec
[17:43] <ivanoats> roelforg, r u here?
[17:45] <ironhalik> How can I try out Unit2D on LiveCD? When I log out, and select Unity2D from the menu, it logs into Unity3D
[17:45] <ivanoats> can anyone help me with a unity / xOrg problem? keeps going back to login screen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11714880
[17:45] <L3top> I think thats right. virtualbox-ose-guest-utils or virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[17:49] <swex> can somebody explain how to change default bash pwd in kubuntu 11.10
[17:49] <lamer13300980470> passwd
[17:49] <swex> why is it ~/Documents not jsut ~
[17:50] <swex> no working directory
[17:50] <lamer13300980470> as root sudo passwd wtfever
[17:50] <Hiob10hiob> swex: dont get your question
[17:50] <escott> swex, lots of config files end up in ~, but you can change it by modifying ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[17:50] <xsl> how can i remove usbmuxd
[17:51] <xsl> it removes alot of stuff.. i dont need Iphone support on my workstation!
[17:51] <xsl> !info usbmuxd | oneiric
[17:51] <xsl> wen i try to remove usbmuxd it wants to remove gvfs-backends* libimobiledevice2* upower* usbmuxd* xfce4-power-manager*
[17:52] <xsl> !info gvfs-backends | oneiric
[17:52] <swex> Hiob10hiob, when I execute new bash from alt+f2 for example my working directory is ~/Documents instead of ~ why?
[17:52] <swex> escott, my question is not about user dirs
[17:53] <skypce> hello , does exist some app for change sound theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:53] <skypce> hello , does have some app for change sound theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:53] <swex> I can modify my ~/.bashrc by appending cd ~ but that's not right path I guess
[17:54] <skypce> how can i change the sound theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:54] <reesk92> how do i mount a drive from inside of the ubuntu live cd i need to check which partition has windows files in it so i know im installing to the right one
[17:55] <reesk92> wait i got it
[17:55] <swex> reesk92, just open nautilus and you'll see them
[17:56] <reesk92> yep for some reason the file manager in the left pane wont let me open thm but nautlis did
[17:58] <stultify> i need to transfer some files pc->pc over a xover cable. Which is the server and which the client?
[17:58] <reesk92> does the ubuntu parttion need to be primary or logical
[17:59] <escott> stultify, the choice of client server is up to you. which one do you want to be the server and what protocol do you want to use
[17:59] <theadmin> reesk92: logical partitions are like containers for more partitions. If you need that, Ubuntu can boot from logical drives just fine.
[17:59] <reesk92> ummmm
[17:59] <reesk92> still not sure which i want this isjust for ubuntu to live on
[17:59] <theadmin> reesk92: primary then
[18:00] <reesk92> ext4 ok
[18:00] <stultify> escott ssh, and I don't know what the server does or the client. Is the pc sending the files the server?
[18:00] <escott> stultify, it can go either way with ssh
[18:01] <stultify> escott: but one side requires openssh-server, right?
[18:01] <sambagirl> test
[18:01] <escott> stultify, yes
[18:01] <SubjectOne> where do i find the config file ( of stand. remote desktop om my ubuntu install ) ?
[18:01] <escott> stultify, and that would be what is called the server, but you can upload and download from an ssh server
[18:01] <sambagirl> !seen seveas
[18:01] <moes> The latest update to Firefox-10.0.2 canonical=1.0 crashed when using Yahoo games..This happens in regular or safe mode with add-ons disabled..Any fix ??
[18:02]  * stultify it's all becoming clearer...
[18:03] <number_> hellp
[18:04] <sambagirl> anyone have any idea on a vps i can run on lamp?
[18:04] <sambagirl> is there a such of thing?
[18:05] <sambagirl> i feel like i am in a turnstile in dc
[18:05] <sambagirl> or maybe its my f n thing
[18:05] <sambagirl> whatever
[18:05] <mongy> samalex, not sure I understand the question.
[18:05] <sambagirl> later
[18:05] <pmjdebruijn> hi guys, does anybody know about the status of lo-menubar (libreoffice with globalmenu support) in 12.04?
[18:06] <mongy> samalex, sorry wrong person.
[18:06] <mongy> sambagirl,  not sure I understand the question.
[18:06] <zykotick9> pmjdebruijn: reask in #ubuntu+1
[18:06] <pmjdebruijn> ah
[18:06] <pmjdebruijn> zykotick9: thanks
[18:06] <sambagirl> what i want to do is host some domains mongy i did it in the past but i want something i can control i even bought a raq4 but i messed it up trying to update it and lost everything it already had.
[18:07] <sambagirl> this channel has turned into a turnstile
[18:07] <sambagirl> and god knows i cant curse
[18:07] <`korvin> what's the name of the package that adds all the third party copyrighted packages
[18:07] <sambagirl> i mean fuck
[18:08] <zykotick9> `korvin: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:08] <`korvin> thanks
[18:08] <pangolin> !language | sambagirl
[18:08] <sambagirl> kovin it's called visa or mastercard
[18:08] <stultify> sambagirl: don't mind if I do ->0
[18:09] <reesk92> ive got a partition thats 104mb and says windows 7 loader do i need to keep that
[18:09] <pangolin> reesk92: yes
[18:09] <sambagirl> format the drive and dump the windows 7 stupido
[18:09] <reesk92> what does it do
[18:09] <sambagirl> are u retarded or what?
[18:09] <mongy> ugh..
[18:09] <llutz> sambagirl: stop it
[18:10] <pangolin> !guidelines > sambagirl
[18:10] <Adams> Salut
[18:10] <LjL> was lagging
[18:10] <pangolin> !fr | ArseeniK
[18:10] <reesk92> no im asking what it does cause i need to keep my samsung recovery software which has a my win 7 installer on it so if i take the wrong thing out ill be screwed
[18:10] <ArseeniK> Ok tks
[18:11] <Antares> reesk92, keep it in case you're worried. I doubt it takes that much space,  anyway.
[18:11] <pangolin> reesk92: it is what allows grub, the bootloader ubunt uses, to boot Windows 7 when you need to.
[18:11] <theadmin> reesk92: You need that to boot Windows (Windows 7 puts the bootloader on a separate partition)
[18:11] <DinoMuffin> reesk92: your talking about the recovery partition?
[18:12] <pangolin> reesk92: please ask your questions in the channel.
[18:13] <wolfric> quick question, in the gui when it comes up with the restricted drivers option, where is it getting that information and how can i find out where those restricted drivers are coming from.
[18:13] <moes> The latest update to Firefox-10.0.2 canonical=1.0 crashes when using Yahoo games..This happens in regular or safe mode with add-ons disabled..Any fix ??
[18:13] <wolfric> like is this just a contrib and non-free sources, how can i find the actual package name it's trying to install
[18:15] <Guest26808> hi
[18:15] <Guest26808> all
[18:15] <Seryth> moes: Fix: Don't use Yahoo games....there are plenty of other free games sites (better ones!) out there; miniclip, crazymonkeygames, FOG, etc etc.
[18:16] <fca2> exit
[18:17] <reesk92> i have no clue whats going on atm
[18:17] <Antares> moes, have you tried running them on any other browser?
[18:17] <moes> Seryth, Personnel preference...used for many years..until this last update ??
[18:18] <Seryth> moes: Uh, okay. Um....may be a flash problem?
[18:18] <Guest26808> hey anyone can tell me how to update lib in backtrack
[18:18] <Guest26808> i already tried apt-get install
[18:18] <Pici> Guest26808: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, backtrack support is in #backtrack-linux
[18:19] <Guest26808> but thr are error like 404 not founs
[18:19] <Guest26808> found
[18:19] <Guest26808> ok thanx
[18:19] <Guest26808> Pici
[18:19] <sirfifer> I just installed 11.10 on an existing Win 7 machine. ubuntu boots fine but win 7 does not even start. Used boot-repair but the basic options did not work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/855597/
[18:20] <reesk92> atm i have 5 parttion i have sda1 which says windows 7 loader i have sda2 which is where wndows 7 is installed i have sda4 which is the recovery software is installed and i have sda5 which i my file partiton where i keep my filed
[18:20] <sirfifer> My win 7 install is on sda3
[18:20] <reesk92> i wanna install to sda 2 where windos was
[18:20] <reesk92> when i go to do that it says it needs a root file system
[18:21] <FTFY> Question: When I set up 3d acceleration in my ubuntu VM, the desktop goes blank
[18:21] <FTFY> any ideas?
[18:21] <sskalnik_> FTFY:  rebooted the vm? Also, which virtualization tech?
[18:22] <reesk92> how do i give it a root fle system
[18:22] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  You'll need a partition formatted for Linux (ext3 or 4)
I've rebooted it, but nothing makes it work. Oracle VM Virtual Box Manager
[18:23] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  You'll need to shrink or nuke some partitions, sounds like.
[18:23] <methods> is it a known bug that unity doesn't manage ssh agent anymore ?
[18:23] <reesk92> i cant touch the others cause it might kill them
[18:24] <sskalnik_> FTFY:  host and guest OSes and versions? Latest vbox?
[18:25] <FTFY> All the accounts do the same. It's the latest Ubuntu/oracle version
[18:25] <sear> Hey all.  I just performed a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 11.10, and I can't get apt to update the sources.  I keep getting a bunch of 404s.  I tried changing to a different mirror, but the problems persist.  Anyone have any idea what's going on?
[18:25] <Shaun> not ubuntu, but has anyone here ever experienced gui apps going to sleep when the computer is left idle (the computer is most definately on!)
[18:25] <sear> apt-get update output: http://pastebin.com/v59zeN8N
[18:25] <sear> sources.list: http://pastebin.com/yVxQ6U44
[18:25] <FTFY> What is the advantage of 3d acceleration anyway?
[18:25] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  looks like you are in a pickle. I personally would offload the recovery software to another disk and reclaim that partition.
[18:26] <dr_willis> unity uses it
[18:26] <sskalnik_> FTFY:  unity and anything else that needs to do 3D can now do it.
[18:26] <Shaun> both Konversation and Xchat time out when I leave the pc, and reconnect when I come back to unlock the screen, but their logs claim the timeout occurs when I come back, when its clear from scrollback that it occured a long while ago
[18:26] <FTFY> Ah, thanks
[18:26] <reesk92> sskalnik_: i am super screwed seen as the only os on this machine atm is the ubuntu live disk so anything i need to do ha to eb done form here
[18:27] <moes> Seryth, I have shockwave flash 11.1 r102 updated on 2/13/2012 ??
[18:27] <dr_willis> when in doubt make backups....
[18:27] <Seryth> moes: I have no idea then, sorry.
[18:27] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  I would get a copy of clonezilla and make an image of the recovery partition and anything else I might nuke.
[18:27] <moes> Seryth, Thanks for trying !!
[18:27] <Antares> moes, did you try anything other than Firefox?
[18:28] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  You should make a backup of anything you can't afford to lose anyway.
[18:28] <reesk92> ssk is the windows 7 loader windows equiv to grub
[18:28] <moes> antaresa No I use strictly firefox
[18:28] <Seryth> moes: Np, sorry I couldn't help!
[18:28] <moes> Antares, No I only use firefox
[18:29] <sskalnik_> sear:  ping ubuntu.com
[18:29] <sear> sskalnik_: No issues with that.  I am able to wget from another server just fine
[18:29] <Antares> moes, download Chromium and see whether the games you mentioned work on there. It is available in the Software Center iirc.
[18:29] <reesk92> sskalnik_: if windows 7 loader is windows version of grub i can remove that pastion cause i know that my recovery partion will fix it
[18:30] <sear> However, when I try to wget from an ubuntu mirror, it doesn't work.
[18:30] <sskalnik_> reesk92:  I wouldn't do that.
[18:30] <reesk92> sskalnik_: why if im not duel booting wouldnt i not need it
[18:31] <moes> Antares, I can do that but this problem only occured after an update from canonical
[18:32] <sskalnik_> sear:  So you can ping ubuntu.com?
[18:32] <sear> Yes, I can, sskalnik_
[18:32] <sskalnik_> ok
[18:32] <CharminTheMoose> How can I change the default 'installing missing plugins' firefox box to just use gksudo, rather than gksu? Running a debootstrap 11.04 install here
[18:32] <Ho^Oh> What can I do to resolve grub-install,         I'm getting this error: "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[18:33] <Ho^Oh> I'm trying to install Ubuntu to a GPT-partitioned system (The harddrive is about 2Terabytes)
[18:34] <JulinBM> hi. brasilians online?
[18:34] <Pici> !br | JulinBM
[18:35] <sskalnik_> sear:  And mirrors.mit.edu?
[18:35] <sear> Yup, I can access that, too, sskalnik_
[18:36] <JulinBM> but, in english, i can speak?
[18:36] <sskalnik_> JulinBM:  yes
[18:36] <theadmin> JulinBM: Sure
[18:36] <Pici> JulinBM: Thats fine.  Just letting you know thats where the brasilians are :)
[18:36] <JulinBM> ok, thank you very much
[18:37] <Jon--> You can put comments with # in /etc/group right?
[18:37] <sear> sskalnik_: have you said anything recently?  I apparently timed out.
[18:37] <escott> Ho^Oh, why are you using grub1 and not grub2
[18:37] <rockets> you can use grub1
[18:37] <rockets> still?
[18:37] <rockets> wow
[18:38] <sskalnik_> sear:  Nope. Honestly I am perplexed as well.
[18:38] <theadmin> !info grub-legacy | rockets
[18:38] <theadmin> Huh
[18:38] <sskalnik_> Nothing is jumping out at me.
[18:38] <theadmin> Did they rename it or something...
[18:38] <sear> sskalnik_: Yeah, it's a really strange issue.  I haven't been able to find anyone with the same issue online either.
[18:38] <sear> I'll keep digging.
[18:38] <Guest22879> hi guys
[18:38] <escott> Ho^Oh, what you should be doing here is installing grub2, but using a gpt_bios partition for the bootloader
[18:38] <Pici> theadmin: grub 2 is grub-pc and grub 1 is grub
[18:38] <jamescarr_> when will Unity get fixed!?
[18:38] <escott> Ho^Oh, or grub_bios whatever it is called
[18:38] <theadmin> Pici: Ah, thanks.
[18:39] <Ho^Oh> escott: E: Package 'grub2' has no installation candidate                      <---------- I do not know what type of server I have exactly and what it's capable of.
[18:39] <jamescarr_> How the hell did Unity figure out how to make my gvim menu  go away :(
[18:39] <Antares> jamescarr_, what is wrong with it?
[18:39] <jamescarr_> I can never get it back reliably
[18:39] <jamescarr_> since the first unity release
[18:39] <escott> !info grub-common | Ho^Oh
[18:39] <JulinBM> pici I'm new in ubuntu
[18:39] <theadmin> jamescarr_: It's the globalmenu -- all the window menus are on top. If you don't wish to use that feature, remove the "appmenu-gtk" and "appmenu-qt" packages.
[18:39] <rockets> theadmin, nice try :P
[18:40] <theadmin> rockets: Thanks lol
[18:40] <JulinBM> pici: but, ubuntu is very good
[18:40] <rockets> I'm a sysadmin not a desktop user. I know things :D
[18:41] <Ho^Oh> escott: So that means grub common is grub2?
[18:41] <MrStupid> 13:46 < MrStupid> hellow im looking for a batch script to rename my pirated MP3's so the 1 is at the begining of the track and not at the end, does anyone have that batch script?
[18:41] <sskalnik_> sear:  Have you tried re-generating sources.list?
[18:41] <CoJaBo> Is it possible to script a mouse click, e.g., every second at a particular location? I need it to click the "connect" button on the wifi dialog (ideally, it would be set to connect automatically, but this appears to be infeasible)
[18:41] <sear> How would one go about doing that, sskalnik_?
[18:41] <Ho^Oh> MrStupid: Visit #Windows
[18:42] <escott> Ho^Oh, yes, and assuming you are bios booting a gpt disk you need a small grub_bios partition to hold the grub2 files that would otherwise go in the sectors<63
[18:42] <Ho^Oh> We don't do windows batch scripts here.
[18:42] <escott> Ho^Oh, rodsbooks.com gives many details on this here
[18:42] <sskalnik_> sear:  I use this one http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[18:42] <CXIV> Is persistent file size related with ubuntu performance on usb stick?
[18:42] <Ho^Oh> Gee, I hope I do not have to repartition again -.-
[18:42] <sear> Google dropped me there, sskalnik_.  Thanks!
[18:43] <ikonia> CXIV: it will be if you need to access it, how big it is will effect how quick it can be accessed
[18:43] <MrStupid> Ho^Oh: thank you, as now I know linux 11.04 does not support batch operations I will try windows
[18:43] <JulinBM> quit I'm going, thanks
[18:43] <Chill3r> ./join #lugradio
[18:43] <Ho^Oh> MrStupid: In linux, you make shell scripts.
[18:44] <Ho^Oh> MrStupid: Basically, it's a file with a collection of commands you would do in terminal normally.
[18:44] <escott> Ho^Oh, it can be super small 1MiB is plenty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition
[18:44] <CXIV> ikonia But is there a big difference in access time?
[18:44] <ikonia> CXIV: depends how quick your device is
[18:45] <CXIV> ikonia I got usb stick with 20 mb/s r/w
[18:45] <hero1900> can i convert my linux mint 12 to ubuntu 11.10??
[18:45] <escott> hero1900, reinstall
[18:46] <hero1900> no way to fix without that
[18:46] <hero1900> ?
[18:46] <escott> hero1900, no have to reinstall
[18:46] <hero1900> okey thx
[18:46] <Antares> Hehehe, I wondered the same thing as hero1900 for my main laptop. Mint is not polished enough. :P
[18:47] <Antares> (I'm currently installing Ubuntu on it!)
[18:47] <Benxyzzy> I'm looping over the results of 'find' in a bash script. I want to also redirect the stderr of find (for logging). Anyone know how to do that?
[18:47] <Hiob10hiob> polished???
[18:47] <Chill3r> guys quick question - please ?
[18:47] <escott> Benxyzzy, why are you looping over find results use -exec or xargs depending on need
[18:48] <Antares> For example, when I move my mouse cursor all the way to the right, it's not actually in the maximized window -- there is a strip of desktop space.
[18:48] <Chill3r> is there a script out there what will clean up your wireless settings and just connect to a specific network
[18:48] <Benxyzzy> escott: I'm doing string manipulation on the results and calling out to ftp in each loop. This is a script, not just the command line
[18:49] <escott> Benxyzzy, i bet you could do this without the loop, but in any case use tee to split your output and then you can send part to stderr
[18:50] <Benxyzzy> escott: tee sounds about right; unless I can call script functions via exec or xargs I don't see how I could avoid the loop
[18:52] <Pikkachu> doesn't Ubuntu font supports Unicode?
[18:54] <Ho^Oh> escott: I do have a 64MB gap before SDA1,      but I'm not exactly sure on where to start,     I usually work on the old stuff, but this grub2 set up thing is rather alienating.
[18:54] <Mrhill|2> can i run dragon on ubuntu
[18:55] <escott> Ho^Oh, you only need 440bytes so add a small partition there select the type as grub_bios, then install grub-common package and see if grub-install does the correct thing. it should
[18:55] <Oer> Mrhill|2, dragon-player ?
[18:56] <Ho^Oh> escott: grub-common is already installed.
[18:56] <Ho^Oh> I'll just remove that in then install that again.
[18:57] <jacob_> Hi Ubuntuers, I got a question:
[18:58] <Guest56777> When I install 12.04 alpha now, will it automatically be upgraded to the final version via apt-get update && apt-get upgrade??
[18:58] <Guest9101> hi, i am was wandering which version of emacs is good for beginner?
[18:58] <rockets> Guest9101, /nick nickname
[18:58] <theadmin> Guest56777: Yes. But Precise is not supported in this channel, go to #ubuntu+1
[18:59] <_alex86_> hi, i am was wandering which version of emacs is good for beginner?
[18:59] <_alex86_> *wondering
[18:59] <Oer> Guest56777, upgrade will do, but be sure you have the iso on cd-r or usb
[18:59] <nathanel__> hello: i am trying to mount box.com folders for two separate accounts, it seems i have an issue: for both folders mentionned in fstab, only one account mountsfor both of theme
[18:59] <nathanel__> theme*
[19:00] <_alex86_> i looked at my Ubuntu software center I have found out emcas without X support? what is X?
[19:00] <_alex86_> *emcas
[19:00] <Jacobus123> @0er what do you mean by having the iso?
[19:00] <_alex86_> *emacs
[19:00] <nathanel__> X is your display server
[19:00] <_alex86_> ok
[19:00] <_alex86_> doesn`t say much to me though.
[19:00] <Oer> Jacobus123, iso = downloaded ubuntu
[19:01] <theadmin> _alex86_: X = graphical environment core
[19:01] <geirha> _alex86_: with X support: gui, without X support: cli
[19:01] <_alex86_> theadmin, alright
[19:01] <Hiob10hiob> cli = command line interface  ; gui = graphical user interface
[19:01] <Jacobus123> Okay, but do I still need the iso after installation for the update to the final version? Or does a update / upgrade suffice?
[19:02] <_alex86_> geirha, cli - command line interface?
[19:02] <_alex86_> ok
[19:02] <Oer> Jacobus123, no, you don't need it to upgrade, just in case you run in problems.
[19:02] <theadmin> Jacobus123: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do it, you don't need the ISO
[19:02] <nathanel__> geirha: what's up?
[19:02] <nathanel__> geirha: know anything about davfs2?
[19:02] <Jacobus123> Okay, thanks...
[19:02] <_alex86_> are you guys actually using emacs or vi?
[19:03] <Hiob10hiob> i am on nano
[19:03] <nathanel__> nano rocks
[19:03] <arand> !poll | _alex86_
[19:03] <geirha> nathanel__: hi, and no, never heard of davfs32
[19:03] <Ho^Oh> escott: Then I set the new partition as /boot/grub?
[19:03] <nathanel__> crap.
[19:04] <Ho^Oh> _alex86_: ano
[19:04] <nathanel__> geirha: crap. its a web fs. i'm trying to mount two separate accounts on separate folders via fstab. but the mount registers only the second account to both folders
[19:04] <Ho^Oh> nano
[19:04] <escott> Ho^Oh, negative. this is NOT the /boot partition
[19:04] <gandhijee_> hey, how do i set my primary monitor in ubuntu 11.10? i can't seem to do it in the displays thing,
[19:04] <_alex86_> Ho^Oh, ok. i wanna to learn emacs and vi
[19:05] <escott> Ho^Oh, this is a partition with a flag that is "grub_bios" thats how it appears in gparted. it does NOT have a mountpoint. it is NOT formatted. it is raw space for grub to put things that would go after the MBR which you dont have
[19:05] <theadmin> gandhijee_: Try installing lxrandr, it allows much easier (and more senseful) display configuration
[19:05] <Ho^Oh> escott: I just have no clue what to do wit hthis partition regarding /ubuntu/etc/fstab
[19:05] <escott> Ho^Oh, its not in fstab
[19:05] <Ho^Oh> Oh alright.
[19:05] <nathanel__> helP! dis anyone ever use davfs2 or know anything about it to help me?
[19:05] <escott> nathanel__, yes
[19:05] <geirha> nathanel__: Hm. Pastebin the relevant lines from /etc/fstab
[19:06] <RenatoSilva> doesn't ubuntu font support Unicode? the celcius degree char (𡀳) looks like a square filled with zeros
[19:06] <escott> RenatoSilva, well that means it is supporting unicode but that the symbol is not provided by the selected font
[19:06] <qazokm> hello. whats the name of ubuntu's version of xfdesktop?
[19:07] <qazokm> im sure the answer is easy
[19:07] <zykotick9> !xubuntu | qazokm
[19:07] <gandhijee_> theadmin, yeah, but that doesn't let me choose the *primary* monitor
[19:07] <Pikkachu> escott: 'where selected' font equals to 'it'?
[19:07] <qazokm> i mean to say, what runs the ubuntu desktop zykotick9
[19:07] <nathanel__> escott: great! so here's the deal. i have two separate box.com accts. i made two separate entries in fstab for those accounts. i also included the credentials as specified in the sample /etc/davfs2/secrets and set the config in that same directory. the folders mount both both show only my second account.
[19:07] <Pikkachu> escott: where 'selected' font' equals to 'it'?
[19:07] <qazokm> i just dont know the name so i translated it in my own way :(
[19:08] <zykotick9> qazokm: sorry, i don't understand your question
[19:08] <Pici> picasso: are you sure that you're using the right symbol? ° looks fine to me.
[19:08] <Pici> picasso: sorry, that was for Pikkachu
[19:08] <plm> People, I add repos partner to install java, but after not found the packages. I'm using 10.4.4 LTS. any problem?
[19:08] <escott> nathanel__, holdon my box.net config is on the laptop which is turned off right now. booting
[19:08] <nathanel__> geirha: http://pastebin.com/BzqeRbYZ
[19:09] <nathanel__> escott: thx
[19:09] <qazokm> zykotick9, it is a process. im pretty nobish. i believe it starts with an m, and it runs the gnome or unity desktop, much like xfdesktop runs the xfce/xubuntu desktop.
[19:09] <escott> Pikkachu, what do you mean by "it"
[19:09] <Pikkachu> Pici: that's the actual char, I typed <ctrl>+u2103 and sent it
[19:09] <picasso> Pici: no problem
[19:09] <Pikkachu> escott: your 'it'
[19:09] <plm> I'm using this url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes
[19:09] <plm> I see about java.. I did that and now works.. any idea/;
[19:09] <excelsior> hello, what's the recommended version manager approach nowadays? I need to install ruby 1.9.3, and I have 1.8.7, I do have RVM installed, but the rvm install 1.9.3 doesn't work, several errors. Thoughts?
[19:09] <plm> ?
[19:09] <Pikkachu> escott: nevermind sorry
[19:10] <Pikkachu> escott: you mean I need to select some sort of "Ubuntu Unicode" in the font list?
[19:10] <elsombrero> hi all, im installing ubuntu oneiric, and i want to use zfs for the root filesystems as well. Im currently following this document: https://github.com/dajhorn/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem  . It says that i must create my boot partition wiith type BE (a solaris type). Can anybody tell me why this is needed for ubuntu?
[19:10] <escott> Pikkachu, I mean try a different font. the font you are using in the application doesn't have that symbol
[19:10] <geirha> nathanel__: the source for both mounts are identical ...
[19:11] <nathanel__> geirha: no
[19:11] <Ho^Oh> escott: So far, I set the grub bios flag.     THEN I deleted /boot/grub            removed grub-common and grub*                    Then instaleld grub-common        which seems to have installed without an error.                Is there anything else I should be aware of?
[19:11] <Pici> Pikkachu: Thats the specific unicode for degrees celcius. I would't expect all fonts to have that glyph.
[19:11] <nathanel__> pay attn. one is "gmail the other is "hotmail
[19:11] <plm> please, anyone can help me with that?
[19:11] <escott> nathanel__, so mine looks like https://www.box.net/dav /media/box.net davfs noauto,user in fstab
[19:11] <nathanel__> geirha: pay attn. one is "gmail the other is "hotmail
[19:11] <Pikkachu> Pici: it's simply not properly rendered when using "Ubuntu". If I switch to "Segoe UI" it's rendered just fine
[19:11] <Pici> Pikkachu: i.e. the glyph contains "°C", not just "°"
[19:11] <Pikkachu> Pici: yes, so what?
[19:12] <escott> nathanel__, my secrets looks like: /media/box.net email@address password
[19:12] <nathanel__> escott: the issue is not with mounting it. its with the separate acct recognition
[19:12] <martian> plm: I don't understand the question
[19:12] <escott> nathanel__, so if you have two box accounts you would need two mountpoints in fstab and two entries in secrets
[19:12] <plm> martian: I wnat ot install java sun in 10.4.4
[19:12] <nathanel__> escott: which is what i have
[19:12] <nathanel__> no go
[19:12] <plm> martian: I read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes section Sun Java moved to the Partner repository
[19:12] <Chaser_> LTS user here . Wondering if GNOME classic (2.0) will still be an option in 12.04 ? (not here to argue/comment on Unity)
[19:12] <plm> martian: but that not works
[19:13] <Pici> Pikkachu: File a bug against ttf-ubuntu-font-family then
[19:13] <escott> Ho^Oh, i'm a little worried by the "deleted /boot/grub" it should be repopulated now so verify that it has all the grub modules and the grub.cfg
[19:13] <plm> any idea?:
[19:13] <martian> plm and what happens when you run apt-get update? does it show any errors?
[19:14] <andrea_> ciao
[19:14] <kenyabob> I sieged my server, and now I've been blocked. I can remote in, but I'm not sure what is doing the blocking. I flushed my iptables and I'm not sure what to try next
[19:14] <log> Chaser_: Yes, through the gnome-session-fallback package.
[19:14] <Ho^Oh> escott: /boot/grub folder is here,      just no grubenv
[19:14] <chipotle> how do i connect to a osx computer that has file sharing enabled?
[19:14] <martian> kenyabob: check your /etc/hosts.deny
[19:14] <Chaser_> log, nice thanks !
[19:14] <escott> nathanel__, if you umount them both, and mount them independently does it work. ie umount A,B mount A, is A correct? umount A mount B is B correct?
[19:14] <plm> martian: not, but apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin not found the packages
[19:14] <thelegace> hi guys im trying to use cpu_timer library in boost
[19:14] <thelegace> http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_48_0/libs/timer/doc/cpu_timers.html
[19:14] <thelegace> from this page
[19:14] <FloodBot1> thelegace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <thelegace> but it seems to be missing
[19:15] <thelegace> as i try the include in the tutorial and it cannot find the lib
[19:15] <kenyabob> martian: and my ip would be added into that file? it looks like its still default to me
[19:15] <escott> Ho^Oh, it sounds ok. you can try a grub-install again
[19:16] <escott> Ho^Oh, I don't know what grubenv does but you might as #grub
[19:16] <chipotle> how do i connect to a osx computer that has file sharing enabled?
[19:16] <martian> kenyabob: yeah, that would be the case. I guess that's not it. then :-/
[19:16] <nathanel__> escott: thanks
[19:16] <nathanel__> it worked! i had generic credentials instead of folder specific ones
[19:17] <nathanel__> escott: it worked! i had generic credentials instead of folder specific ones
[19:17] <chipotle> how do i scp a file from one computer on my lan to my ubuntu computer?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: nautilus can connect to windows shares. I image it will use samba on the mac side
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[19:17] <escott> nathanel__, ok cool
[19:17] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: thanks, i think scp will be best... do you recommend i use cat6 to connect?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: the physical
[19:18] <martian> plm: if you run "grep archive /etc/apt/sources.list | grep partner" does it show anything?
[19:18] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: do i do that scp -R command on the host computer receiving the files or sending the files?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: physical media connection is fairly moot unless you are streaming very high bitrate video
[19:19] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: well, i am trying to transfer over about 100GB of data from my mac to my ubuntu file server...
[19:19] <plm> martian: show this: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
[19:19] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: what is the best way?
[19:19] <chipotle> they are internal hard drives
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: nautilus can connect to sshfs
[19:19] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: okay, what do i do to see it in nautilis?
[19:19] <Hiob10hiob> different computer?
[19:19] <chipotle> Hiob10hiob: yes
[19:19] <martian> plm: okay good. try this: "apt-cache search java | grep sun" Does that show anything? (don't need to paste it here)
[19:20] <go8765> hello. help me please.  cant i send command from tty to lanch openbox again(after crash) ?
[19:20] <plm> martian: yes
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Chipotle: nautilus will give a convenient interface
[19:20] <martian> plm: does it show the packages you were hoping to install?
[19:20] <chipotle> ActionParsnip: so just enable ssh on my mac for sshfs to work?
[19:20] <Roasted> Question - I thought the ATI open source driver at least handled 1080 playback? I just fired it up and it's absolutely terrible.
[19:21] <plm> martian: not. with partner commented show the same packages on apt-cache
[19:21] <escott> log, 12.04 will NOT have gnome2
[19:21] <plm> when are partner uncommente
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> chipotle: assuming it is enabled by default, yes
[19:21] <log> escott: http://blog.jdpfu.com/2012/02/20/canonical-listened-gnome2-in-ubuntu-12-04
[19:21] <plm> martian: sun-java-jre not show
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: how big is the screen?
[19:21] <Roasted> 37-40 inch orso
[19:22] <plm> martian: I did upgrade and install new version of 10.4, the 10.4.4 may be this is the problem?
[19:22] <martian> plm: with partner commented?
[19:22] <excelsior> Regarding Ruby and Rails, what's the recommended version manager approach nowadays? I need to install ruby 1.9.3, and I have 1.8.7, I do have RVM installed, but the rvm install 1.9.3 doesn't work, several errors. Thoughts?
[19:22] <curiousx> Roasted: what driver version?
[19:22] <plm> martian: #deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[19:22] <plm> martian: #deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[19:22] <Roasted> curiousx, I don't even know. :( I got it off a web site, one sec.
[19:22] <escott> log, thats really really misleading as gnome-session-fallback (that comes with gnome3) is NOT at all like gnome2
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Log: gnome2 is no longer developed by the gnome team. Its not going to be in any future distros
[19:23] <curiousx> ok
[19:23] <martian> plm: why are they commented? they shouldn't be. if they're commented, of course it won't work