[12:15] <faugusztin> ActionParsnip: sequential read yes, but the typical random read is not that simple :)
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> faugusztin: try a PCI-X SSD, several gb/s now that is speed
[12:16] <cgtdk> can't SATA 3 do 6 Gbps?
[12:16] <faugusztin> cgtdk: yes
[12:16] <faugusztin> cgtdk: still not 1GB/s+ like most PCI-E SSD
[12:17] <cgtdk> PCI-E is definitely faster
[12:17] <faugusztin> but price is in different region too :P
[12:17] <cgtdk> OCZ has one they claim can read at 1500 MB/s
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: yes, 6gigabits, 600Mb/s
[12:17] <afshin> I have a bash script file and I want put a command that run vlc and vlc open a file but I don't know homw to
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,-sata-ii-and-sata-iii
[12:18] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: That's 600 MB/s, not Mb/s
[12:18] <cgtdk> b = bit, B = byte
[12:18] <streulma> afshin: vlc /home...
[12:18] <BlueGuitar> afshin: open a file when?
[12:18] <BlueGuitar> afshin:  check out alarm-clock-applet
[12:18] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to view a font (ttf eot etc) in ubuntu
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: yes, but the interface will give 600Mb/s
[12:19] <DaVinciIT> hi all. UbuntuGnome. How to update to 13.04->13.10 ? thank you.
[12:19] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: use font viewer
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> bonhoeffer: isnt there a font viewer in the default install
[12:19] <cgtdk> "The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s"
[12:19] <cgtdk> that's 600 megabytes per second
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> DaVinciIT: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[12:19] <BlueGuitar> what is avahi-daemon?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> BlueGuitar  avahi is for wifi
[12:19] <bonhoeffer> ActionParsnip, not that i can find
[12:19] <DaVinciIT> ActionParsnip:  thank you!
[12:19] <afshin> I inseet this command in my script: vlc /home/afsin/channels.conf but this dose not work
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/06/kingspec_multicore_mc1s81m2t_2tb_pcie_ssd/   3Gigabytes per second, or 600Megabytes for SATA-3
[12:20] <BlueGuitar> MonkeyDust: that it was for printer and file sharing - i need it for wifi?
[12:20] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: install font viewer
[12:21] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: What?
[12:21] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: very straightforward if you want to check a font.  also check site dafonts
[12:21] <bonhoeffer> hmm .. . looks like it is installed, but i can't find it  -- working it, thanks . . .
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !info  gnome-specimen
[12:21] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: its not in menu?
[12:21] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, no -- not coming up
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> BlueGuitar  i correct myself: avahi is for cabled networking too
[12:22] <bonhoeffer> ActionParsnip, i'll look at it
[12:22] <faugusztin> BlueGuitar: http://imgur.com/5YfpH6L <-- notice the access times, good luck with that on mechanical hard drive :)
[12:22] <Reacto> How do I install 13.10 over 13.04 when I dual boot with Win8?
[12:22] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: gnome-font-viewer     in terminal
[12:22] <Reacto> There's no option for upgrading
[12:22] <Reacto> do I have to delete the ubuntu partitions + the grub partition?
[12:22] <fidel> Reacto: no - you upgrade ;)
[12:22] <Reacto> ye but how
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: 13.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:23] <faugusztin> Reacto: can't you wait for official upgrade on Thursday ?
[12:23] <BlueGuitar> faugusztin: lol - thats fast
[12:23] <Reacto> I need to reinstall ubuntu anyway
[12:23] <Reacto> it's bugged
[12:23] <fidel> Reacto: as long as it isnt official out - you might need a special switch to trigger it. but see the +1 hint
[12:23] <wadie> problem: I can't see the video of any file. not working on vlc or movie player. I'm using unity 2d. only when I restart the computer I can watch a video or to but then only audio
[12:23] <chegney> so wgetpaste is not available on ubuntu? alternative?
[12:24] <BlueGuitar> wadie: what video type?
[12:24] <wadie> anything
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> chegney: what does it do?
[12:24] <wadie> mkv,avi
[12:25] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, closer -- but i get Could not load face 'file:///home/bonhoeffer/Sites/ptp_nova/fonts/glyphicons-halflings-regular.ttf'
[12:25] <chegney> commandline paste to a pastebin site
[12:25] <bonhoeffer> does this mean my fonts are corrupted?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !info pastebinit | chegney
[12:25] <Bretos`> hello guys! I am looking for a way to boot linux livecd over PXE. Archlinux installer works OOTB, but I need something with X. Any suggestions? As I've seen, ubuntu  can't be booted over pxe out of the box
[12:26] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: on all of them or just that one?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Bretos`: Ive seen pxe installs of Ubuntu
[12:26] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer:  does dashes might be a problem
[12:26] <bonhoeffer> just that one -- i'm redownloading
[12:26] <BlueGuitar> *those bonhoeffer
[12:27] <bonhoeffer> works now -- thanks!
[12:28] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: was it the dashes?
[12:28] <rokka> Snake2k: managed to install somehow with the link you provided: its seems to install a desktop set of packages..i would like i server installation.. any ideas howto uninstall desktop related packages?
[12:28] <chegney> ubottu: weird, dpkg -l *paste* doesn't find that package
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> rokka: uninstall xorg and the rest of deps with be marked for removal
[12:28] <rokka> oh cool
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, no -- bad file
[12:28] <bonhoeffer> or new file worked
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> chegney: try:  apt-cache show pastebinit
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> chegney: dpkg will only show installed packages
[12:29] <chegney> ah, okay
[12:29] <BlueGuitar> bonhoeffer: where did you get your font?  dafonts?
[12:29] <chegney> new to apt, came from archlinux
[12:29] <bonhoeffer> BlueGuitar, bootstrap -- from github
[12:31] <chegney> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235678/
[12:31] <chegney> output of free
[12:31] <Reacto> Does OS-uninstaller remove grub too?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> chegney: free -m | pastebinit
[12:31] <Reacto> or do I still have to get a win8 disk and repair the mbr
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> chegney: easier to read :)
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: what are you trying to do?
[12:32] <Reacto> clean install ubuntu
[12:32] <Reacto> but I've got win8 installed too
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Reacto: then why would you need anything but the install CD?
[12:33] <Reacto> to remove grub?
[12:33] <chegney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6235691/
[12:33] <chegney> ActionParsnip: my screen is all garbled after waking from suspend
[12:33] <chegney> only option is to reboot
[12:33] <BlueGuitar> got to go - ty all
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> chegney: try switching to TTY1 then back to TTY7 (desktop)
[12:38] <chegney> tty2 was garbled too, didnt try 7
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:41] <wadie> anyone ?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> wadie, what?
[12:42] <ionelmc> how can i download a source of a package but from another repository - do i need to add said repository ?
[12:42] <bekks> ionelmc: Yes.
[12:42] <ionelmc> how can i add it without it affecting my packages ?
[12:42] <ionelmc> *my os
[12:42] <ionelmc> i only want it for 1 source package
[12:42] <bekks> ionelmc: Add it, run apt-get update, download the source, remove the ppa.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> ionelmc: add the repo, pull down the package, remove the repo
[12:43] <karlo> when I span one window across 2+ monitors, the app menu on the top bar does not show up. Is it a known issue?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> karlo: check for bugs on launchpad
[12:47] <ionelmc> what if the said repo is the main (i'm running precise and i want the sources from saucy) ?
[12:47] <ionelmc> actually, i don't know if the package is in `main` - how do i find out?
[12:47] <Roman__> ehm.. Hi. I recently used Ubuntu Software Center (always used aptitude before) and signed in with my google account. Now I got permanent "Ubuntu — Full Account Access" in account preferences. If I revoke it, it just appears again some time later.
[12:48] <Roman__> I can change, the password
[12:48] <flan_suse> Anyone here using an Intel HD with SNA acceleration?
[12:48] <Roman__> But it's just wrong.
[12:49] <PLMg> hello, I have issues connecting to my ubuntu server. Iptables are "disabled" and it has a static ip. Any sugestions?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !anyone|flan_suse,
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ionelmc, you could wait a couple of weeks for the official release of the currently unsupported saucy ...
[12:50] <PLMg> My main goal is to gain ssh access to it
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ionelmc, for package info run apt-cache policy packagename
[12:51] <flan_suse> I have Intel HD graphics (System76). I am using the latest drivers from the xorg-edgers PPA, which uses SNA acceleration by default. However, if I use SNA, I get tearing.  Here's the strange part. SNA *is* faster than UXA, but it suffers from tearing. So, I enable the TearFree option, and now the tearing is gone under SNA, but I get sluggish performance...
[12:51] <flan_suse> Is there any way to use Intel HD graphics, with SNA acceleration and no tearing, but without the performance hit? Everywhere I look, people seem to be doing just fine with SNA, and they boast how it's so much faster than UXA.
[12:52] <flan_suse> Any problems with tearing is "solved" by using TearFree. But in my case, this only slows things down, which is not worth it.
[12:53] <ragusource> Hey guys, does anyone know how to add a catchall email address on iredmail?
[12:53] <bluechaos> ActionParsnip,
[12:53] <bluechaos> ok i'm back
[12:54] <bluechaos> can u give me a full tutorial how to install ubuntu from iso
[12:54] <theromi> Quick question: Is there no release candidate of saucy yet, or am I just to blind to find it?
[12:54] <flan_suse> theromi: Beta 2 is the "release candidate".
[12:54] <bisam> part
[12:54] <theromi> flan_suse: Okay, Thanks.
[12:55] <flan_suse> theromi: After Beta 2, official release comes out.
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !install|bluechaos,
[12:55] <flan_suse> theromi: That's how Ubuntu does it. Not all distros follow the same release policies.
[12:55] <theromi> flan_suse: Mh, the shedule mentions a release candidate, though.
[12:55] <theromi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[12:56] <bluechaos> cfhowtell nothing help full
[12:56] <philinux> theromi: that will just be the milestone daily build iso on the day
[12:57] <bluechaos> this version of ubuntu cannot see my DVD-wirter also I don`t have a external hdd ( usb eather ) ..
[12:57] <chegney> exit
[12:58] <philinux> theromi: just get the current live from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[12:58] <theromi> philinux: Thanks.
[12:59] <flan_suse> theromi: I think Beta 2 is the final image before the official.
[12:59] <flan_suse> Unless it was changed again.
[13:00] <scruz> hi. i'm connected to a precise server which allows public-key authentication, so i'm not prompted for a password. i've installed postgresql, and it's running, but i cannot run any command as postgres with sudo - i'm prompted for a password. is there anything i can do? i'm trying to set up a web app.
[13:01] <Touhou11> There's usually a release candidate before the official
[13:01] <philinux> Touhou11: not for a couple of cycles there hasn't
[13:01] <Touhou11> philinux: That's worrying, implies less testing
[13:02] <philinux> it's just a milestone daily live now
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> scruz as far as i know with postgres, you must be on the postrgres user to go anything in cli by default: try: sudo su postrgres
[13:02] <jrib> scruz: say exactly what you are running
[13:02] <philinux> not worrying as there's more testing now
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> try: sudo su postgres    even
[13:03] <scruz> ubuntu 12.04 lts, and i can restart the postgresql service with sudo without a prompt, but once i try to do anything as the postgres user, i get the password prompt.
[13:03] <philinux> Touhou11: they call it an RC but it's really the daily live on the day http://qa.ubuntu.com/2013/10/09/testers-assemble-final-rc-testing-is-here/
[13:03] <edinny> I configured a VPN in lucid. How can I start it from the command line?
[13:04] <jrib> scruz: say exactly the command that you are running...
[13:04] <scruz> sudo -u postgres createdb …
[13:04] <jrib> scruz: why do you not expect a password prompt?
[13:05] <scruz> postgres user account defaults to not having a password, iirc. ran same command today elsewhere, and it worked.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> edinny. whynot use NM?
[13:05] <edinny> NM?
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> scruz the password is for the account you are logged in as
[13:05] <jrib> scruz: you're running a command with sudo.  By default sudo will require you to input your user's password.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> network manager
[13:05] <streulma> does someone have the Dell Windows 7 Professional 32bit DVD without SP1 ? I lost mine
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> sudo is requesting the password, not postgres
[13:06] <edinny> BluesKaj: can nm run from the command line?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> streulma, download it from digital river ... yuou
[13:06] <scruz> jrib: i'm using public key authentication. i don't know the password.
[13:06] <jrib> scruz: then you cannot sudo.
[13:06] <cfhowlett> streulma, you'll need that legal authorizatioon code however
[13:06] <jrib> scruz: ask your sysadmin to reset your password
[13:06] <hsnmck> Hi, I'm using lubuntu, I just installed vim-gnome and it installed other dependencies like libgnome, how can I undo what I just did. I mean, I want to remove vim-gnome with all the dependencies that were installed, apt-get remove does that?
[13:06] <Reacto> Is there a command I can do from the live iso to find where the grub partition is installed?
[13:06] <scruz> jrib: i have installed packages today without entering a password.
[13:07] <Reacto> Thought I removed it, but it still boots the grub rescue terminal
[13:07] <jrib> scruz: not possible by default.  But you could setup sudo to not prompt for a password for certain commands.
[13:07] <bekks> Reacto: Grub is installed in the MBR of a disk or at the boot sector of a partition. Removing the package doesnt affect that.
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> scruz: the server may be configured to allow you to run apt-get without a password,
[13:08] <Touhou11> hsnmck: There's a command which removes "orphaned" packages, left over from removals. I forget.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> edinny.not sure what the path is
[13:08] <MrElg> q
[13:08] <cgtdk> autoremove
[13:09] <edinny> BluesKaj: the path to what?
[13:09] <hsnmck> Touhou11, cgtdk, apt-get remove --auto-remove ?
[13:09] <scruz> hitsujiTMO: okay, thanks. i've already told the sysadmin, but i googled and came here to see if i could get anything else done.
[13:10] <scruz> jrib: thanks
[13:10] <esseks> Hi! I'd like to install Ubuntu on a PC where is installed Debian Wheezy. The computer is quite old and cannot boot from a pendrive, but Grub is already at its place so: is it possible to chain load the installer on a USB key from Grub?
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> hsnmck: apt-get autoremove
[13:10] <esseks> I have no spare CDs around...
[13:10] <hsnmck> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[13:11] <BluesKaj> edinny.path tp the NM executable , besides using a gui is much easier if you're going connect to vpn server
[13:11] <edinny> /usr/bin/nm
[13:11] <edinny>  nm - list symbols from object files?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> well, /usr/bin is the first to come to mind of course , but that doesn't work
[13:15] <innershows> #ubuntu-cn ubuntu
[13:17] <innershows> ping timeout
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !ping|innershows,
[13:19] <ashoksahoo> hello every one, Greetings
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> esseks: does it have a floppy drive?
[13:21] <ashoksahoo> so I was installing ubuntu netinstall
[13:21] <ashoksahoo> and I slept without keeping the laptop in charge
[13:22] <esseks> ActionParsnip, yes.
[13:22] <ashoksahoo> and when I woke up, battry was empty, I am assuming, just the grub part was pending , anyway I can restore grub without installing
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> esseks: there is a floppy image on pendrivelinux to boot to first, it will then boot usb :)
[13:24] <edinny> is nmcli available on Lucid?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> edinny: i believe so, yes
[13:25] <edinny> ActionParsnip: do you know what package contains nmcli?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !find nmcli
[13:28] <edinny> network-manager is already the newest version
[13:28] <vega> Hello
[13:29] <edinny>  sudo locate nmcli finds nothing
[13:29] <BluesKaj> edinny. nm isn'r exactly cli friendly
[13:29] <Guest80043> How do I uninstall gnome from Unity?
[13:30] <edinny> BluesKaj: got to find it before I use it!
[13:30] <Touhou11> Guest80043: Unity contains difference pieces from the GNOME environment, so not sure it's possible
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Guest80043, slow down.  gnome was replaced by unity so ... your query makes no sense
[13:30] <BluesKaj> edinny. but why?
[13:31] <edinny> BluesKaj: so, how do I use it if it is not on my machine?
[13:31] <edinny> $ sudo nmcli
[13:31] <edinny> sudo: nmcli: command not found
[13:31] <Guest80043> I installed gnome from the software manager. Is there any way to remove the environment itself?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Guest80043, go back to software center and delete
[13:32] <hitsujiTMO> Guest80043: sudo apt-get remove gnome && sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:32] <Pici> edinny: If the network-manager package is installed, then nmcli should be in /usr/bin/nmcli
[13:33] <Guest80043> Thank you for your help
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Guest80043, best o fluck
[13:37] <edinny> nmcli seems to be broken on Lucid
[13:37] <ikonia> I don't think so
[13:37] <ikonia> why do you think it's broken
[13:37] <edinny> It is not there
[13:37] <ikonia> errr that's "missing" not broken
[13:37] <vega_> How do I uninstall kde environment?
[13:37] <ikonia> and I suspect if it was missing, lots of people would have complained about it
[13:38] <edinny> How do I reinstall the network manager?
[13:38] <rhumbot> hi all. i have a harddrive with 2 partition, each has a version of ubuntu installed. can i remove one of the partitions and ?add? it to my main partition?
[13:38] <ikonia> edinny: remove the package and re-install it
[13:38] <Xethron> I successfully installed Ubuntu 13.10. While booting the live CD, I had to activate Proprietary drivers for my Wireless. This worked fine and I was able to run the installation with Internet access...
[13:38] <Pici> edinny: What release of Ubuntu are you running and is the network-manager package installed?
[13:39] <edinny> Lucid. It is installed
[13:39] <Xethron> After installation, I was once again unable to connect. I opened up "Software & Updates", went over to Additional Drivers, selected "Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n", and clicked Apply Changes
[13:40] <Xethron> Exactly like I did in the Live CD
[13:40] <Xethron> However, after that, it selects the "Do not use this device" again...
[13:40] <Xethron> And I can't seem to access the wireless
[13:40] <Xethron> Any ideas?
[13:40] <moppy> Hello. I wonder if anyone can tell me where to look? I lost sound on my raring desktop. It works fine on login (lightDM?) but once the desktop is up, all the meters and volume controls seem to work but there is no audio
[13:41] <irenicus09> hi guys
[13:41] <Pici> edinny: It looks like nmcli didn't exist in lucid.
[13:41] <irenicus09> anyone know what the service dns_masq is?
[13:41] <Xethron> So, in short: I can't seem to select WiFi Proprietary drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n
[13:41] <irenicus09> it seems to be listening on certain ports etc. how do I get rid of it ty
[13:41] <edinny> Pici: Any other way to start a VPN from my already made configuration without it?
[13:42] <moppy> irenicus09: perhaps this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnsmasq
[13:42] <moppy> oh better: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[13:43] <jrib> irenicus09: why do you want to get rid of it?
[13:44] <Pici> edinny: I'm not sure, sorry.
[13:44] <moppy> it appears to eb  i the package "dnsmasq"
[13:44] <irenicus09> jrib: I'm not sure how I'm going to benefit form it etc. besides I don't like the idea of a running service that I don't really need
[13:44] <edinny> how do I remove the medibuntu repository? I can edit the file, but prefer not to
[13:44] <BluesKaj> !dnsmasq | irenicus09
[13:44] <moppy> i wouldnt remove it, it's installed on my system so it's probably essential
[13:44] <cfhowlett> edinny, you can do that in software center settings > software sources
[13:45] <edinny> cfhowlett: from the command line?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> !info dnsmasq
[13:45] <BluesKaj> irenicus09.^
[13:45] <cfhowlett> edinny, sudo gedit apt/sources.list  if I recall correctly
[13:46] <edinny> I knew that. thought there was a command
[13:46] <DJones> edinny: cfhowlett gksudo rather than sudo though
[13:46] <moppy> So anyone have any idea why I might not have sound ? Everything seems to work but no audio. It works during the login screen. I assume its threfore a desktop component not working?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> edinny, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    IS  a command.  open the file, delete the references or comment them to inactive with a * prefix
[13:47] <cfhowlett> DJones, for gedit?  OK
[13:47] <edinny> I renamed the file in sources.list.d
[13:47] <irenicus09> BluesKaj: thanks...I guess since it's a caching proxy it's gonna speed things up right
[13:47] <DJones> cfhowlett: Yeah, for any graphical based apps, sudo doesn't always set the right environment varioables
[13:47] <DJones> !gksudo | cfhowlett
[13:47] <irenicus09> guess I'll keep it
[13:48] <cfhowlett> DJones, good to know.
[13:49] <irenicus09> Also I noticed this other service running: gvfsd-http is that because of the package manager
[13:49] <irenicus09> I mean  software center
[13:50] <BluesKaj> irenicus09. supposedly , I've used dnsmasq in the past but never noticed much difference  speedwise
[13:50] <irenicus09> BluesKaj: I think on slower connections it would make a difference cos they'd be able to skip already downloaded contented from being fetched etc.
[13:50] <jrib> irenicus09: it doesn't cache by default
[13:51] <irenicus09> jrib: how do I enable the cache-ing featur
[13:51] <irenicus09> feature*
[13:51] <jrib> irenicus09: i don't know.  Did the wiki have intsructions?
[13:53] <edinny> nmcli problem solved. needed to add repostitory network-manager-trunk-lucid.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> irenicus09. since I started using NM again I haven't bothered with dnsmasq , and my connection is a plain jane adsl which is pretty slow by the latest stds
[13:54] <edinny> ...also needed to remove outdated medibuntu repository
[13:55] <cfhowlett> edinny, maybe you said why, but WHY are you on lucid?  eol on the desktop you know ...
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !lucid
[13:56] <irenicus09> BluesKaj: hmm...I guess then it doesnt make much of a difference
[13:56] <edinny> cfhowlett: I have been asking how to use COMMAND LINE commands. Waiting for next LTS before I upgrade
[13:56] <BluesKaj> irenicus09. well ,not here anyway
[13:56] <cfhowlett> edinny, you mean ... 12.04 IS the next LTS ...
[13:56] <tilerendering> this is totally strange
[13:57] <tilerendering> I have 2 users
[13:57] <vega_> Hi when I installed kde it changed my defualt login screen to kubuntu style how do I change it back to ubuntu defualt?
[13:57] <osubuntu> hello but how can i change system locale?
[13:57] <tilerendering> one is in 3 groups, the other one is in the same 3 groups PLUS the group sudo
[13:57] <tilerendering> the first one can access the tomcat directory
[13:57] <tilerendering> the second cant
[13:57] <osubuntu> do i have to export LANG and LANGUAGE?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> vega_, logout.  click the ubuntu gear to choose a different environment. login
[13:57] <tilerendering> although he is in the same group as the first one, plus in the sudo group
[13:57] <tilerendering> any ideas ?
[13:58] <osubuntu> ubuntu gear turns out to be galaxy gear xD
[13:58] <edinny> Waiting for 14.04.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> edinny, cool
[13:58] <streulma> is there a rescue cd to recover files from ntfs ?
[13:58] <osubuntu> edinny, you have to wait more than<PHONE_NUMBER> seconds
[13:58] <Wiz_KeeD> guys
[13:59] <cfhowlett> osubuntu, no idea what that means but then I'm in Ubuntustudio/xfce
[13:59] <vega_> Thanks cfh but that's not my problem. Whenever I boot up my computer the login screen is kde styled, I want it to be ubuntu styled like the original one
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> How do I do /etc/init.d/apach2 restart over ssh on a remote server?
[13:59] <osubuntu> cfhowlett, how can I change the system locale?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> streulma: you can use foremost
[13:59] <cfhowlett> streulma, just boot your ubuntu cd and rescue away
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> streulma: why do you not have a backup?
[13:59] <osubuntu> default is Korean but i want to change it into English
[13:59] <cfhowlett> osubuntu, don't know how to do that from the command line ... sorry
[13:59] <robotti> hello!
[13:59] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[14:00] <osubuntu> Command line is super convinient to geeks xD
[14:00] <robotti> how to set up multi-seat system with nvidia and intel gpu?
[14:00] <edinny> osubuntu: Give me a break. Got rid of all my RHEL 3 and 4 machines!
[14:00] <Snake2k> Wiz_KeeD: sudo service apache2 restart
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: anyone what?
[14:00] <robotti> I am using closed source nvidia driver with nvidia gpu
[14:00] <Snake2k> I think that works
[14:00] <Wiz_KeeD> Snake2k, over ssh
[14:00] <Wiz_KeeD> on a remote server
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> robotti: did you install bumblebee
[14:00] <Wiz_KeeD> one command
[14:01] <robotti> ActionParsnip: not yet
[14:01] <vega_> how do I change my login screen to ubuntu defualt?
[14:01] <osubuntu> edinny, then you must wait another<PHONE_NUMBER> seconds xD
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> osubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale   look at /etc/default/locale or update-locale
[14:01] <robotti> ActionParsnip: bumblebee is needed to use multiseat system?
[14:01] <osubuntu> sudo vim /etc/default/locale ?
[14:01] <robotti> ActionParsnip: I want set system with two users same time
[14:02] <osubuntu> hitsujiTMO, tHanKs
[14:02] <robotti> that is able to handle two users
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> robotti: its needed to handle optimus
[14:02] <Xethron> I can't seem to select WiFi Proprietary drivers for Broadcom Corporation BCM43227 802.11b/g/n on Ubuntu 13.10. It worked in the Live CD, but doesn't work after installation
[14:02] <osubuntu> btw is this channel for only ubuntu servers? excluding ubuntu desktop or ubuntu touch?
[14:02] <Snake2k> Wiz_KeeD: connect as root@whatever, then /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, then /etc/init.d/apache2 start, I don't know how to get it done with one command
[14:02] <Snake2k> Wiz_KeeD: maybe use &&
[14:02] <robotti> ActionParsnip: my computer is not laptop
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> ssh ip /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[14:03] <robotti> ActionParsnip: does it matter?
[14:03] <Snake2k> vega_: lightdm
[14:03] <osubuntu> robotti, is it desktop?
[14:03] <Wiz_KeeD> seems to work but I do not have permission by default so I would have to exclude this command from sudo, can anyone help with that?
[14:03] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, you must be in the sudoers list.
[14:03] <robotti> osubuntu: yes. I have intel igpu HD 3000 and nvidia gtx 460
[14:04] <osubuntu> robotti, but i have laptop :P
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> robotti
[14:04] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, if you're not in the sudoers list (sudo group), the incident will be reported D:
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> robotti: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[14:04] <vega_> How do I switch from lightdm to something else?
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> I am in sudoers
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> but it asks for password and for this to work in one command over ssh i would have to remove that
[14:05] <robotti> hitsujiTMO: should I set two X servers?
[14:05] <robotti> hitsujiTMO: one for intel and one for nvidia?
[14:05] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, than type sudo -s, passwd and set root's password xD
[14:05] <robotti> one for using nvidia closed source driver and one for intel open source driver?
[14:06] <osubuntu> Wiz KeeD, then you would be able to login into root and become root of a plant
[14:06] <k1l> osubuntu: stop that. that is no recommended in here
[14:06] <hitsujiTMO> robotti: that should not be required
[14:06] <zykotick9> !noroot | Wiz_KeeD osubuntu
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: you can add the command into sudoers so that a password is not needed for that command for a particular user group
[14:07] <osubuntu> oh i see thx zykotick9
[14:07] <osubuntu> !root
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: you can do it a lot sleeker than enabling root, please dont advise users how to break their OS
[14:07] <osubuntu> was that advice?!
[14:07] <osubuntu> i thought he was asking that..must be my mistake sorry D:
[14:08] <osubuntu> !wfm
[14:08] <Snake2k> vega_: install gdm, kdm, slim or mdm, whichever one you want, then do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <new display manager>" like for configuring gdm you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: giving users commands......yes, that's advise
[14:08] <jasabella> is vi's commands supposed to emulate other shell utilities and vice versa or is the system set up this way? is this just a happy coincidence?
[14:08] <r7_> I installed Xubuntu on BTRFS filesystem. And I have this error at startup: "sparse file not found, press any key to continue"
[14:08] <osubuntu> command = advice = recommand
[14:08] <osubuntu> so i see that commands are just advice. thanks for that
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: vi's commands are pretty much standard across all distros. That's the beauty of vi
[14:08] <vega_> Thank you Snake2k
[14:09] <Snake2k> vega_: just a heads up, Slim causes a few problems, so its best not to play around with Slim, stick with lightdm, gdm or kdm
[14:09] <Snake2k> vega_: No problem :)
[14:09] <irenicus09> why is its that vi and vim are so different :(
[14:09] <Pici> irenicus09: because vim is vi improved.
[14:09] <jasabella> is it vi or vim taht comes with ubuntu server as standard?
[14:09] <jasabella> (sorry, im a newbie)
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: just choose one and use it :)
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: vi is on every linux distro
[14:10] <zykotick9> irenicus09: actually then are both really vim.  vim-tiny vs vim, is your "vi vs vim" question...
[14:10] <vega_> Thanks for your help again Snake2k, I have one more question. What is the difference between these managers?
[14:10] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: I really like vim...but when I try to use vi like vim it kinda doesnt work that way :[
[14:10] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ;) vi is on every POSIX distro
[14:10] <jasabella> i can use some vim commands in info and man and less, that s great :)
[14:11] <osubuntu> !quit
[14:11] <osubuntu> sorry
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: blah blah :)
[14:11] <jasabella> like / for search and n or N to step thru them
[14:11] <osubuntu> it was /quit..
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, that is exactly what I wanted to do
[14:11] <Snake2k> vega_: Well, honestly, just the way it looks, its all preference, I prefer lightdm (the default), some people like gdm or kdm or slim, just compare their pictures on google images and get the one you like most lol
[14:11] <Snake2k> vega_: And, no problem :)
[14:12] <vega_> Awesome. Thank you
[14:13] <exalt> hello, why does ubuntu use two runlevels instead of 6 by other distros?
[14:13] <zykotick9> exalt: because ubuntu is based on debian, and that's what debian does...
[14:14] <r7_> Anyone installed Xubuntu/Ubuntu on BTRFS can support me?
[14:15] <zykotick9> exalt: and that isn't exactly correct statement.
[14:15] <streulma> what is the best Linux to use for work guys ?
[14:16] <streulma> Ubuntu LTS or 13.04 or .10 ?
[14:16] <Touhou11> r7_: BTRFS isn't stable yet, not recommended for general use
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> exalt: because what the extra runlevels were intended for is obsolete in modern systems
[14:16] <edinny> streulma, the best linux to use, in general, is one you can get support for...preferably LOCALLY
[14:16] <geirha> streulma: Depends what you need. If you don't mind software being slightly old, I'd go with LTS
[14:17] <r7_> Touhou11,  I am testing it because my laptop doesn't have any critical files. So far it was stable in quite some distros. They main website says the current version is unlikely to change.
[14:17] <k1l> streulma: if you need to ask about stability use the LTS versions
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> streulma: lts is recommended for a professional environment
[14:18] <vedic> Hey guys, I have downloaded an old svn repository. It had worked previously but now when I do ./configure , It says "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" . I don't remember how I did it last time. Any ideas? I see there is a autogen.sh file.
[14:18] <r7_> Can I resize /dev/hda1 so I can add a partition just for booting?
[14:18] <r7_> sda*
[14:19] <vedic> There is configure.in file as well
[14:19] <replicant> from what i'm reading.. there is no way to enable r/w access for an hfs+ formatted drive unless you are able to get that drive onto an osx machine to disable the journaling.. correct?
[14:19] <Wiz_KeeD> it's wierd that if I do apache restart logged in it works without asking password but if i do from local ssh ip /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it says permission denied
[14:19] <geirha> vedic: autogen.sh will generate the configure script
[14:19] <qum_> qum,
[14:19] <Touhou11> streulma: I use Debian Stable for work purposes
[14:20] <vedic> geirha: It says: autogen.sh: 6: autogen.sh: aclocal: not found; autogen.sh: 7: autogen.sh: autoheader: not found; autogen.sh: 8: autogen.sh: automake: not found; autogen.sh: 9: autogen.sh: autoconf: not found
[14:20] <jasabella> my ubuntu install is living in a vm and the internet connection appears to have died, any pointers?
[14:20] <sayres> i installed xubuntu 13.4 on my laptop.i dont know why firefox cant open my sait?i got "Unable to connect" error.my sait is www.tazik.ir   what's your idea?
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone knows why that happens?
[14:21] <zykotick9> sayres: fyi, i think you mean site
[14:21] <r7_> ok I had some hopes to find help here, but since I didn't I will have to reinstall Xubuntu and make a separate /boot partition for it. Thanks for those who tried.
[14:21] <geirha> vedic: sudo apt-get install build-essential   you might need more packages. aclocal is installed by the automake package
[14:21] <sayres> zykotick9 : ops ,yes site
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> actually I was wrong
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, it still does not allow me to restart the server without password prompt
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: it will, you need to add an entry in sudoers to allow the command to run without password, you can make a group and add your user to it, then log off and on.
[14:27] <jasabella> is there a reason for arp to drop off?
[14:29] <bekks> jasabella: What do you mean by "arp drop off"?
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, do you have a tutorial that shows how to do that?
[14:29] <jasabella> well right now my ubuntu install in a vm has lost internet connectivity
[14:29] <jasabella> when i do service networking restart
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, wiz ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/openerp-server restart <== I have this at the end of the file
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers   shows how
[14:29] <jasabella> it will list my devices, after a while, it wont list anything
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password
[14:30] <jasabella> ifconfig is still showing my manual settings for ip address/mask and broadcast
[14:30] <jasabella> i cant even ping my gateway
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: can you ping your gatreway?
[14:30] <jasabella> nope
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: is routing set ok?
[14:31] <jasabella> oh hang on, i can now hmmm
[14:31] <jasabella> i get (DUP!)
[14:31] <jasabella> ok i gotta check routing
[14:31] <jasabella> (i dont know what to look for? )
[14:32] <bekks> jasabella: netstat -rn
[14:32] <jasabella> oh same as route :D
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> start-stop-daemon: unable to open pidfile '/var/run/openerp-server.pid' for writing (Permission denied) that's the issue
[14:32] <ashu> hello
[14:32] <jasabella> destination <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway <IP_ADDRESS>, genmask <IP_ADDRESS>, flags UG iface eth0
[14:32] <jasabella> seems right
[14:32] <ciencisto> Hello! I'd need help with my open source drivers...
[14:32] <jasabella> (from the little that i know)
[14:33] <jasabella> what's genmask? :)
[14:33] <jasabella> ooohh it's in man :)
[14:33] <vedic> geirha: Thanks.  What was this replaced with does anyone know?
[14:34] <ciencisto> I've installed fglrx-updates on my desktop computer, but after trying my Live CD, I've found out that the Live CD had faster graphics
[14:34] <ciencisto> And the Live CD uses open source drivers
[14:34] <jasabella> nslookup isnt working :(
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: then check your nameservers.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: try:   echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: then try nslookup
[14:35] <ciencisto> I've tried switching from fglrx-updates to the open source drivers, but I can't get my native resolution somehow
[14:36] <ciencisto> Could anybody help me?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ciencisto: you may need an xorg.conf file
[14:37] <jasabella> no reply from google dns server :(
[14:37] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: Alright. How can I get one?
[14:37] <jasabella> connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[14:37] <bekks> jasabella: That happens. There is no guarantee that a DNS server will answer.
[14:38] <jasabella> hehe if it's udp one
[14:38] <bekks> Even if it is TCP.
[14:38] <jasabella> oh
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ciencisto: you can make one, there is also a command to spit a skeleton file out, see the !ati link ubottu has
[14:38] <jasabella> i did do sudo apt-get purge open-vm-tools earlier
[14:38] <jasabella> and sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:39] <jasabella> did it remove a package and kill my internet? :/
[14:39] <jasabella> (not supposed to happen from what i understand but i? a newbie)
[14:39] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: Recommending Google DNS is a rather bad idea, given their relationship with the NSA
[14:39] <PDvic> yes mom
[14:40] <bekks> Touhou11: Ouh yes.  Its for testing
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: try a smaller tinfoil hat collection, ok
[14:41] <Touhou11> jasabella: When the NSA makes every organization sign a NDA, any policies are presumed to be dishonest unfortunately
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: its a dead easy IP to remember and if it made the user's system work, we have isolated the issue
[14:41] <jasabella> https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: the file is generated at reboot, so is easy to undo
[14:41] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: Make one myself? Oh God I'm not very good with Linux commands et al.
[14:41] <PDvic> NSA Nations Sexier Arses
[14:41] <jasabella> Touhou11, i suppose :)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !ati | ciencisto
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ciencisto: nobody is born knowing either, the link ubottu gives show you the command
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: so its no bad thing to use google dns, in this case. Is it?
[14:41] <jasabella> i tried reverse look up of <IP_ADDRESS>  :)
[14:42] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: Oh great, thanks, checking that out
[14:42] <jasabella> didnt work :/
[14:42] <PDvic> google is your friend
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> PDvic: I prefer the duck :)
[14:42] <jasabella> duckduckgoose hehe
[14:42] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: While DNS requests don't reveal very much, I'd still rather than not supply the NSA with more data for correlation. Up to you though.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> duckduckgo :)
[14:42] <ciencisto> Hmm, so I have 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670]
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: again, its for a quick test.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: I'm sure 2 or 3 requests isn't going to help them scan your brain patterns via satellite
[14:44] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: I'd rather not joke about such things, who knows what technology is in Google Glass ;)
[14:44] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Thats what they want you to believe ;)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> bekks: oh noes
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: in short you are too paranoid, i'm not even remotely bothered and I'm still alive with a full quota of limbs..... weird huh
[14:45] <lolu> i hear they can remotely turn Galss users blind!! ;)
[14:45] <PDvic> why you got something to hide?
[14:45] <PDvic> i hear they can make peoples clothing tranparent
[14:46] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: Do you not follow the news? Any paranoia is justifiable given the revelations about Google's close involvement with the NSA. Winston Smith was alive too
[14:46] <jasabella> i? at a loss of whats happening :(
[14:46] <jasabella> i rebooted the vm several times lareayd
[14:46] <jasabella> and restarted networking service
[14:46] <PDvic> i found my hardwaer dumpster diving
[14:46] <gordonjcp> PDvic: best kind
[14:47] <gordonjcp> PDvic: what's the difference between a computer out of the bins, and a computer off eBay?
[14:47] <gordonjcp> PDvic: one out of a bin might work...
[14:48] <jasabella> i goto a place where they sell preloved hardware :)
[14:48] <jasabella> got a cheap modem, wifi router and portable printer
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: I know of it, i just dont care
[14:48] <kama> hi all
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: again, still alive, no ill affects
[14:48] <kama> hi all
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: so where is the problem?
[14:48] <Bretos`> I am looking for a LiveCD, which can boot over PXE out of the box, just like ArchLinux livecd, but I need something with X environment. Any suggestions?
[14:49] <ciencisto> ActionParsnip: That'll be okay, thank you very much! :)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: I'd ask in a vmware channel
[14:49] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: People in North Korea are alive, but their situation and lack of freedom is not desirable. Google is helping propogate such a situation
[14:49] <zohan> night all
[14:49] <auronandace> !ot | Touhou11
[14:49] <jasabella> so i've done all there is in ubuntu?
[14:50] <kama> how to know whether grub is install to mbr?
[14:50] <bekks> Touhou11: Ouh, I'm off of your paranoia - first, google is driven by the NSA, now they are supporting North Korea. What next. Ignore set.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: no, its just an extra avenue of help.
[14:50] <jasabella> (i? still learning btw, i will repeat these steps if i ever have the same problem again!)
[14:50] <jasabella> oh
[14:50] <irenicus09> hi guys is it possible to get openbox or some other desktop nevironments to run on ubuntu?
[14:50] <jasabella> ok
[14:50] <gordonjcp> irenicus09: yes
[14:50] <irenicus09> gordonjcp: how exactly do I switch to the other one
[14:50] <Touhou11> bekks: Eric Schmidt of Google visited North Korea fairly recently
[14:51] <irenicus09> I mean when I login I don't see any option
[14:51] <irenicus09> to select the wm or de
[14:51] <jasabella> thank you for your help, i appreciate it :0
[14:51] <gordonjcp> irenicus09: when you install another DE you'll see a little logo beside your name at the login screen
[14:51] <jasabella> :)
[14:51] <bekks> kama: By looking at the content - or by re-installing grub to the MBR in case of doubt.
[14:51] <PDvic> google uses ubuntu
[14:51] <cgtdk> irenicus09: Yes it is very possible
[14:51] <irenicus09> gordonjcp: hmm I just uninstalled unity and added gnome3 ppa and now I dont see gnome3
[14:52] <irenicus09> and when  login to noral desktop everything is so fukd haha
[14:52] <jasabella> i'm finding it dizzying to keep track of all the various conf files around the place
[14:52] <cgtdk> irenicus09: did you just add the PPA or did you install it?
[14:52] <bekks> PDvic: So Ubuntu supports North Korea. </ot>
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Touhou11. and the chinese have a secret base on the dark side ofd the moon ,from which they'll eventually rule the earth
[14:52] <irenicus09> ppa
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: openbox isnt a desktop environment
[14:52] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that bro haha
[14:52] <cgtdk> irenicus09: You have to install the software from the PPA to get it. It's not enough just to add the PPA.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: if you install openbox, you can select the session in Lightdm
[14:52] <irenicus09> cgtdk: already did
[14:52] <cgtdk> You're using lightdm, right?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: or install lxde and use that lxde desktop with openbox wm
[14:53] <irenicus09> cgtdk: ya
[14:53] <PDvic> north korea are NSA lovers
[14:53] <PDvic> or its the other way around
[14:53] <PDvic> imagine if hitler had the internet
[14:53] <auronandace> don't people get kicked for persisting in off-topic chat in here anymore?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: apparently not
[14:54] <irenicus09> ActionParsnip: is it possible to just install openbox and get on it without installing lxde?
[14:54] <auronandace> Pici: thanks
[14:54] <cgtdk> irenicus09: Yes
[14:54] <PDvic> you dont like the truth
[14:54] <Pici> !guidelines > PDvic
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: sure, just install openbox and you should get it as an option in the login screen
[14:54] <Pici> PDvic: knock it off, this is a support channel.
[14:54] <irenicus09> cgtdk: ok giving it a try
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> irenicus09: you can always make your own session file which will be selectable at login to just run openbox
[14:55] <PDvic> some one mentioned north korea?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> PDvic: its offtopic as it is not support related
[14:56] <chegney> what package is urxvt part of? ubuntu won't let me install outright
[14:56] <auronandace> PDvic: you don't have to continue the discussion, this channel is for support issues with ubuntu
[14:56] <kostkon> !find urxvt
[14:56] <penguinRaider> Hi I am trying to use cobbler to connect to a machine via PXE and install ubuntu . I am trying to preseed so that I dont have to enter anything the seed being http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236210/ particularly the network interface and partition . I used debconf-get-selections to those lines  I thought these lines might help http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236213/ . But I still have to make interface selection and I dont get to partition screen now . Any help ? Than
[14:56] <penguinRaider> ks
[14:57] <chegney> ah, nevermind
[14:57] <chegney> rxvt-unicode is the package name
[15:00] <PDvic> ubuntu is coming of age it dosent need support channel anymore
[15:04] <daninoz> hi guys, is 12.04 with a kernel update better than 13.10 ?
[15:04] <PDvic> thats a matter of taste
[15:05] <auronandace> daninoz: qualify better
[15:05] <PDvic> hahaha
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: 12.04 is LTS, so supported til April 2017. Saucy is considerably shorter
[15:05] <daninoz> auronandace: more stable
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: 12.04 is the LTS release, so will be more stable
[15:06] <daninoz> ActionParsnip: even with a kernel update?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: yes
[15:06] <PDvic> 12.04 is rock 13.10 is paper
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> daninoz: the LTS aims to be as solid as possible
[15:06] <zohan> the kernel 3.11.5 released today
[15:06] <PDvic> im excited
[15:06] <zohan> stable kernel
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zohan: saucy has 3.11.0
[15:07] <daninoz> ActionParsnip: ok, great.
[15:08] <chegney> is it a complete reinstall when 13 becomes lts?
[15:08] <auronandace> chegney: there is no 13, the next lts is 14.04
[15:08] <PDvic> isnt the ubuntu orange the same exact tone as the prison uniforms?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> chegney: 13.04 and 13.10 will never be LTS
[15:09] <chegney> okay the next lts release what is the upgrade process from 12.04 lts
[15:09] <auronandace> daninoz: if you are using a kernel from outside the official repos then we can't support you (it will be less stable)
[15:10] <auronandace> chegney: you can upgrade directly from lts to lts
[15:10] <rasper> bonjour, quelqu'un peux m'aider sur un problème hostAP, => l'AP est bien visible mais impossible de s'y connecter (ni en WPA ni sans securité)
[15:11] <chegney> so an apt-get upgrade or something like that?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> chegney: you can upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 directly, it is the next release
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | chegney
[15:11] <auronandace> !fr | rasper
[15:11] <rasper> sorry, thanks ;)
[15:13] <SuperLag> if you're downloading a package that requires you to accept a license agreement to install it, is there any way to automate that, so you can put it in a script and not have it either break the script or hold everything up? The package in question is ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:14] <jrib> SuperLag: search about "debconf preseed"
[15:18] <datoner> en toen was er koffie
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> douwe egberts koffie
[15:20] <erle-> why is ubuntu so slow in virtual box (on ubuntu)?
[15:20] <erle-> it was fine years ago
[15:20] <erle-> but since a year or two it is just slow
[15:20] <erle-> on the same machines
[15:20] <cgtdk> perhaps because of Unity
[15:20] <fanandy_> he
[15:21] <erle-> cgtdk, i dont use unity
[15:21] <cgtdk> What then?
[15:21] <erle-> cgtdk, same with old ubuntu versions with gnome 2 classic
[15:21] <cgtdk> I see
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> erle-: compiz probably chewing the system down. Try LXDE or XFCE instead
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> erle-: if you use Precise, use Unity2D and it will also be ok
[15:24] <OerHeks> erle-, maybe your videocard is aging, ati 2xxx/3xxx/4xxx ?
[15:24] <Touhou11> A desktop shell shouldn't take an accelerated video card, even an older one
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Topslack: sadly, compiz does
[15:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, even the setup is unusable
[15:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, mouse not really movable to buttons
[15:26] <erle-> erle-, i did not come to any choice of DEs
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> erle-: which release are you on?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> erle-: cat /etc/issue    in a terminal will tell you
[15:28] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i am on 13.04 and want to try 13.10-rc
[15:28] <erle-> ActionParsnip, but thats not my problem, i wanted to ask a general report why it is slow since years now, while it was working fine like 2 years ago
[15:28] <erle-> ActionParsnip, in a nutshell: who broke what?
[15:29] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i think it is the hosts fault btw, other distros also seem slow to unusable, without any desktop fancy effects
[15:30] <sebkirller> Hey does anyone know a fix for hexxit on Ubuntu 13.10. It's the white screen never loading bug
[15:30] <erle-> ActionParsnip, including 3 year old distros with gnome 2
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !find hexxit
[15:30] <sebkirller> So how do I fix it? sorry a bit new to linux
[15:30] <DJones> !13.10 | sebkirller
[15:31] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to export 4 distinct folders via nfs (each with it's own mountpoint, i.e.:  server:/export/folder_name), but all four of these mountpoints appear to point to the same directory.  Here is my fstab file with the NFS filesystem at the bottom, followed by my /etc/exports:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217970/  && http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217973/   What am I doing wrong?
[15:32] <nardev> hello, is there any application in repos that i can use to extract/edit FLA (flash source) files. No meter how primitive. I just need to grab some text from there?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> err-or: as far as I can see, metacity is not used and compiz is used
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> oh
[15:34] <ecthiender> hello when I resume from suspended machine, it fails, and restarts. any clues what should I be doing to fix it?
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> is there any way to check the last few ip's who have connected to the ubuntu server via http?
[15:34] <Wiz_KeeD> on a certain port if that helps
[15:34] <ecthiender> I am running ubuntu 13.04
[15:35] <ecthiender> on a thinkpad e430
[15:35] <ecthiender> it used to work fine. its behaving this way since a month now.
[15:35] <danny4way> I am trying to install NetBean but can't.
[15:35] <tgm4883> Wiz_KeeD, if you are running apache, there is an access log
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm afraid not tgm
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> tgm4883,
[15:35] <danny4way> I already downloaded .sh file but don't know how to install it through terminal
[15:36] <bekks> danny4way: sh filename.sh
[15:37] <danny4way> it says can't open netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh
[15:37] <danny4way> bekks
[15:38] <danny4way> http://techgurdian.blogspot.com/2013/06/installing-netbeans-731-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[15:38] <danny4way> this is a software that I am trying to install.
[15:38] <danny4way> I already download the file and it's called "netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh
[15:41] <SuperLag> jrib: thank you
[15:41] <SuperLag> is there a way to remove icons from the launcher in a script?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  first look in dconf-editor
[15:42] <SuperLag> as opposed to right-click and "Unlock from launcher'
[15:43] <MangaKaDenza> yo dawgs
[15:43] <mPrometheus> sup MangaKaDenza
[15:43] <MangaKaDenza> how do I put the powder toy in ubuntu so I can powdertoy ?
[15:43] <danny4way> Anyone knows?
[15:44] <chegney> isn't the executable for chromium browser "chromium"?
[15:44] <danny4way> How to install a file through terminal?
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> chegney  chromium-browser
[15:44] <Zal> danny4way, what do you mean "install"?
[15:44] <GZA-Genius> danny4way: what you mean?
[15:44] <chegney> well, that deserves a symbolic link
[15:45] <danny4way> http://techgurdian.blogspot.com/2013/06/installing-netbeans-731-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[15:45] <danny4way> This is what I am trying to install
[15:45] <danny4way> But after I downloaded I can't install it through terminal
[15:45] <danny4way> GZA-Genius
[15:45] <danny4way> Zal
[15:46] <Zal> danny4way, that link provides exact instructions. Which instruction are you having trouble understanding?
[15:47] <qum> Hi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?
[15:47] <danny4way> Instruction 4
[15:47] <danny4way> Where it says to install Netbeans
[15:47] <Zal> danny4way, ok, what do you not understand about it?
[15:47] <bekks> danny4way: Run the installer: sh filename.sh
[15:48] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: dconf-editor requires manual intervention and cannot be run from a script
[15:48] <danny4way> It says sh: 0: Can't open netbeans-7.3.1-javaee-linux.sh bekks
[15:48] <belak> When/where will the release party be (which channel)?
[15:49] <qum> Hi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?
[15:49] <tgm4883> belak, probably  #ubuntu-release-party
[15:50] <pentester> is it possible to do a net install from live usb
[15:51] <bobapplepie> is there a way to put the percentage next to the battery in unity
[15:51] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> another question
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> Does anyone know why I cant get files off my zune into ubuntu?
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I mean
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I plugged in my zune the other day
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I could see most of the files
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> but when I tried to copy
[15:52] <MangaKaDenza> I kept getting errors
[15:52] <wylde> !enter | MangaKaDenza
[15:53] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to export 4 distinct folders via nfs (each with it's own mountpoint, i.e.:  server:/export/folder_name), but all four of these mountpoints appear to point to the same directory.  Here is my fstab file with the NFS filesystem at the bottom, followed by my /etc/exports:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217970/  && http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217973/   What am I doing wrong?
[15:53] <MangaKaDenza> I also tried playing directly from the device through vlc, but that also didn't work
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> bobapplepie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:53] <MangaKaDenza> wylde, yes I'll consider that, but help would be more useful
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> MangaKaDenza  isnt Zune a Microsoft thingy?
[15:55] <chegney> yes
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> MonkeyDust, yes
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> bobapplepie: its a simple terminal command, copy the output and paste in the channel (its one line so is ok)
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> I could install the client via wine
[15:56] <chegney> it was their attempt at an iPod
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> but I hear it doesn't work
[15:56] <sober> why my ubuntu is so slow even if max cpu utilization is around 18% by compiz and a bit by chrome
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> meh
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> MangaKaDenza: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/qlix/
[15:56] <MangaKaDenza> I'll try installing
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> !info qlix
[15:57] <OerHeks> MangaKaDenza, untill someone cracks the ZMTP protocol, zune is no use on linux.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> clementine may also like it
[15:57] <MangaKaDenza> ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:58] <Zal> blz, hm, you're mounting with "bind" option, while exports are typically per-filesystem, not per directory. I'm not sure, but the "crossmnt" option might be what you need in exports.
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> what's MTP?
[15:58] <qum> Guys, no one can help me? :(((
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> qum  start with a question
[15:59] <qum> MonkeyDust,  i stated my question 3 times :/
[15:59] <qum> Hi. i got an issue with my networking. I'm on 12.04 ubuntu. I got 2 ethernet built in adapters on my motherboard. Each time i restart the system, i need to switch my network cable to other adapter for the internet to work. ANy solution?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> qum: if you tell the interface to request DHCP, do you get a connection?
[16:00] <kermyt> I have an AMD APU (CPU/GPU on the same chip) the installer chokes on the hardware using the radeon drivers by default. Is there a way to force the installer to use a more generic vesa mode?
[16:00] <qum> nope
[16:00] <qum> ActionParsnip,nope.
[16:00] <chegney> isn't there a flash enabled browser for linux similar to Puffin?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> kermyt: add the boot option:  radeon.blacklist=1
[16:01] <kermyt> THank you ActionParsnip !
[16:01] <waykool99> need help editing  Grub in  command line please?
[16:01] <compdoc> kermyt, is there an option in the bios to use legacy video?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> chegney: what does pufin do that you like?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: editting to do what?
[16:02] <sober> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card to see if its making my system slow
[16:02] <blz> Zal, so I should try replacing `bind` in /etc/fstab with `crossmnt` ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> bobapplepie: still waiting for the command output......
[16:02] <chegney> ActionParsnip it has flash built in
[16:02] <kermyt> compdoc, yes but I have no other handy hardware to stick into it
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> chegney: Chrome has that
[16:02] <waykool99> want to change default boot OS and 9 seconds to 100 seconds
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: edit /etc/default/grub   and you can change the timeout
[16:03] <chegney> ActionParsnip do i need to enable the plugin or something?
[16:03] <Zal> blz, no, crossmnt is an option that goes in /etc/exports, which may or may not help to differentiate between different "bind" mounts that originate from the same filesystem.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: do you want Windows to be top in a dual boot system per chance?
[16:03] <Zal> blz, check out "man exports" for details
[16:03] <waykool99> always did it  in v10.04 GUI
[16:03] <waykool99> no
[16:03] <blz> Zal, ok will do.  Thanks!
[16:03] <compdoc> kermyt, set the option to legacy and try
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> chegney: no idea, just found that stuff online
[16:03] <sober> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card to see if its making  my system slow
[16:03] <kermyt> compdoc, ok will do!
[16:04] <chegney> ActionParsnip when I look at chrome://plugins there's no flash player
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> waykool99: edit the timeout and run:  sudo update-grub    to apply
[16:04] <waykool99> have U Studio v12.04 LTS and U Studio v10.04 LTS. want 10.04 Default
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> chegney: it comes with papper flash by default
[16:04] <jjosh> test
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> !test | jjosh
[16:05] <waykool99> yes ubottu TEST back atcha
[16:05] <jjosh> thanks
[16:05] <waykool99> Windows? whats that
[16:06] <blz> Zal, ok will do.  Thanks!
[16:07] <chegney> ah... flashplugin-installer
[16:07] <waykool99> thank you Action
[16:07] <Zal> blz np
[16:07] <Zal> oh, first-name basis with Mr. Parsnip
[16:08] <blz> Zal, okay so I added crossmnt to each line in /etc/exports and did `sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart`, but when I mount the nfs file system, I'm getting the same behavior as before
[16:08] <blz> Zal, any other suggestions?
[16:09] <Zal> blz, nothing I can think of offhand. What you're trying to do may not be possible. Have you considered mounting once on the NFS client, and symlinking the appropriate subdirectories to the desired locations?
[16:10] <blz> Zal, hmm that might be a good solution, actually
[16:10] <chegney> OMG the sound is horrible on my dell netbook
[16:11] <chegney> skipping and the sound isn't feeding through the headphone jack
[16:11] <Zal> chegney, strange, netbooks are known for having such awesome audio
[16:12] <Zal> chegney, ha, well that sounds like a real problem. Wrong driver maybe?
[16:14] <karthik> hi every one i have a problem how to play .ts media files can anyone help me please....
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> karthik: what is a ts file?
[16:14] <chegney> Zal yeah, I think a driver issue, not sure how to correct yet
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> chegney: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:15] <slamm> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card ?
 ts means Transport Stream MPEG-2 Video Stream
[16:16] <chegney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6236580/
[16:16] <Zal> slamm, BIOS option?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> chegney: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 secons and reboot
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> karthik: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3645/how-do-i-convert-ts-files-into-something-useful
[16:17] <Irrelium> I am having trouble installing the proprietary AMD display drivers (fglrx) for my 7950, and I was wondering if anyone could help
[16:17] <Irrelium> Whenever I install them, on boot I get a "The system is running in low-graphics mode"
[16:18] <Irrelium> Reinstalling the open source drivers fixes it and I can boot fine
[16:18] <karthik> thank you ActionParsnip
[16:18] <Irrelium> I have tried both fglrx and fglrx-updates
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> karthik  it says here, smplayer can play .ts files
[16:19] <erle-> how do I switch DE in a regular ubuntu install?
[16:19] <erle-> which means: lightdm
[16:19] <karthik> thank you MonkeyDust
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> erle-  logout, click on ubuntu logo and switch, login
[16:19] <erle-> MonkeyDust, thanks
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> erle-: log off, set the DE at login
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> erle-: then login
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> erle-: lightdm is not a DE
[16:21] <erle-> ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: cant find any button in login screen
[16:21] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i know, but lightdm is the login screen
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> erle-: its the ubuntu icon near your username
[16:21] <erle-> ActionParsnip, seems to miss with 13.10
[16:22] <trism> erle-: it will not show up if you only have one desktop environment installed
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> erle-: Saucy is not supported here
[16:22] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i know, didnt guess that that would change
[16:23] <kop> AP!
[16:23] <erle-> how do i select non-3d unity then, trism?
[16:23] <trism> erle-: there isn't one anymore
[16:23] <erle-> ok
[16:24] <trism> erle-: if you install gnome-panel you can get the gnome flashback session which might work
[16:24] <trism> erle-: or lubuntu/xubuntu
[16:24] <erle-> trism, thanks, that is what i need
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> erle-: saucy support is in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[16:25] <Irrelium> Are the Catalyst drivers downloaded from AMD's website the same as the ones you get with the fglrx package?
[16:25] <yeik> i am having a problem with updates - http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w anybody very good with dpkg and apt-get?
[16:25] <tgm4883> Irrelium, I believe so (provided you build the package with the installer from the AMD site), although you'll probably get newer versions from AMD
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Irrelium: sparty has a guide on his yourtube page
[16:25] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i know, i just did not think that this was a saucy-specialised question
[16:26] <wbat>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER wbat fznriyilptas
[16:26] <slamm> how can i disable my nvidia graphics card ? newbie here
[16:26] <erle-> Irrelium, yes, but versions may matter
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> erle-: its still support for Saucy you are after, as that is the release you are using
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> wbat  change your password!
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> wbat: new pass needed now :)
[16:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, i am using both right now, saucy in a vm on raring host
[16:26] <erle-> :)
[16:26] <chegney> ActionParsnip, that didn't fix the skipping
[16:26] <Irrelium> I am having trouble getting fglrx or fglrx-updates to work, is it worth trying the drivers from AMDs website, or should I try something else?
[16:26] <chegney> my netbook has that poulsbo audio crap
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> erle-: if the issue is in saucy, it is in #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <erle-> ActionParsnip, the virtualboxquestion was actually a raring-question
[16:27] <Irrelium> I am on 13.04 with a 7950
[16:27] <Pici> wbat, ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: the verify command doesn't actually contain a password.
[16:27] <chegney> i think there is a better driver for poulsbo
[16:29] <slamm> zal, is there any other way to disable it ..because i am having dual boot and i only want to disable it for ubuntu
[16:31] <slamm> is there any other way to disable it ..because i am having  dual boot and i only want to disable it for ubuntu
[16:31] <slamm> other than bios
[16:32] <blz> I just mounted an nfs share with `mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/export /media/nfs/`.  How can I translate this into a fstab line?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> blz: you can put the command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, fstab is processed before the network comes up
[16:34] <blz> ActionParsnip, cool, thanks!
[16:34] <blz> ActionParsnip, does rc.local run with root priviledges?
[16:35] <GZA-Genius> blz: "/source/path/here /destination/path/here none bind 0 0"
[16:35] <bekks> blz: Yes, it does.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> blz: yes
[16:35] <dixoncx> Hi, what is the recommended size for ubuntu installation, considering /home in separate partition ?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> dixoncx: i use 10Gb, depends on what the system is for
[16:36] <mluser-laptop> Hello, I was wondering if anyone here can recomend a good tv tuner that works with US digital airways and US cable.  I'll be using this on a laptop so it will most likely have to be a USB device.
[16:36] <eflynn> how do i switch to something other than unity
[16:36] <yeik> ActionParsnip, Are you sure? I have mounted several nfs drives using fstab.
[16:36] <GZA-Genius> mluser-laptop: have you checked if you can get a CABLECARD from your provider?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: install something else, then log off and log in to the new session
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> yeik: as far as I know
[16:37] <eflynn> i mean
[16:37] <eflynn> how do i get gnome
[16:37] <eflynn> unity sucks
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: you have it now
[16:37] <mluser-laptop> GZA-Genius: No, I have not.  It also has to be compatible with linux/ubuntu, which is why I wanted to ask here first
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: Unity is a shell for Gnome, you are running gnome now. Unity does not replace gnome
[16:37] <eflynn> how do i get rid of unity
[16:37] <GZA-Genius> mluser-laptop: well cablecard is first issue
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> eflynn  install other DE, logout, switch, login
[16:37] <mjayk> eflynn: install another D.E.
[16:38] <blz> GZA-Genius, How would I go about designating a network address as my source path?  Something like <IP_ADDRESS>:/remote/path ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: install gnome-shell, or gnome-panel  and you will get a different session. Or switch from gnome to XFCE or LXDE
[16:39] <mluser-laptop> GZA-Genius: I'm currently using an old hauppauge from over 10 years ago without any prolblems, but its ATSC.  And since I'm replacing my desktop with a laptop I need to find something that will work over usb
[16:39] <GZA-Genius> mluser-laptop: then worry about sw comparability
[16:39] <GZA-Genius> blz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:39] <dixoncx> ActionParsnip, thanks for reply. previously i was using 30gb without separate home partition. But now i installed with 15gb for / and 25 gb for /home. I was thinking whether i need to increase / partition size.. .
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> eflynn: you can even switch from compiz to metacity and unity will go but you will need to add a startup item to run gnome-panel
[16:39] <mluser-laptop> GZA-Genius: Do you know of a compatibility list for ubuntu with tv tuner adapters?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> dixoncx: sounds fine, again, depends on use
[16:40] <yeik> blz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:40] <hexacode> lisp
[16:40] <hexacode> oops
[16:40] <blz> yeik, i've been reading through that, but It's not really behaving as expected, hence my previous questions
[16:41] <dixoncx> ActionParsnip, ok, i will proceed with current system.
[16:41] <yeik> blz, how about this then, for fstab mounts: <server>:</remote/export></local/directory><nfs-type><options> 0 0
[16:42] <blz> yeik, thanks i'll give that a shot =)
[16:42] <hexacode> hey you guys. i have this old netbook running ubuntu. thing is, the screen broke...i dont have any extra monitors lying around, so i was wondering if anyone knew the old fashion console way of using linux? like, can i take a serial wire and minicom on another linux to that netbook?
[16:42] <hexacode> im just trying to get in so i can use it. i want it to be a micro server
[16:44] <bekks> hexacode: ssh is more easy.
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> if you have installed ssh
[16:48] <crash1hd> is there any reason why locate wouldnt work I am doing the following locate -i %name% | grep ~/Videos/  where name is the file I am searching for and I know there is lost by the name but it comes back no results even afer doing a sudo updatedb thoughts?
[16:48] <Chudy> ktoś z Polski?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[16:49] <Chudy> pl
[16:49] <jrib> crash1hd: if your home is encrypted I think it won't be indexed by locate by default
[16:50] <crash1hd> right its not encrypted
[16:50] <crash1hd> at least I dont think its encrypted
[16:50] <CHA0> Whats your fav. App in ubuntu, everybody?
[16:50] <jrib> crash1hd: check your settings for locate
[16:50] <OerHeks> !poll | CHA0
[16:50] <crash1hd> jrib, how do I do that?
[16:51] <jrib> crash1hd: /etc/updatedb.conf
[16:51] <CHA0> Thanks, ubotto
[16:51] <Chudy> Hello everyone!
[16:52] <jrib> crash1hd: are you sure a file with percent signs like that exists by the way?
[16:52] <crash1hd> jrib, PRUNEPATHS="/tmp /var/spool /media /home/.ecryptfs"
[16:53] <crash1hd> it should I was searching for specific shows and I know I have them
[16:53] <crash1hd> by name
[16:53] <crash1hd> locate works without the grep
[16:53] <jrib> crash1hd: give an example of a file you expect to get returned
[16:53] <jrib> crash1hd: ok
[16:54] <crash1hd> jrib, like if I do locate -i %brown% it brings up a tonne of files
[16:54] <crash1hd> but once I add | grep ~/Videos/
[16:54] <crash1hd> it brings up nothing
[16:54] <karthik> how to play .ts files in pc
[16:54] <jrib> crash1hd: doesn't that just mean none of the files are in ~/Videos?  Can you verify that's not the case?
[16:55] <crash1hd> going to check (I should though)
[16:56] <jrib> crash1hd: you also still haven't verified your home isn't encrypted
[16:56] <crash1hd> jrib, oh the ~/Videos is a symlink
[16:56] <crash1hd> that might be why
[16:56] <jrib> crash1hd: probably
[16:58] <Kartagis> network-manager says no active connections found when I click 'connection information', and network connections from system tools > preferences lists my connections. what's going on?  (not to mention that I'm also online)
[16:58] <crash1hd> jrib, yep and I had to remove the %
[16:58] <crash1hd> thanks :)
[16:59] <linuxearth> How the famous android phone application 'whatsapp' can be used in the linux in the easiest way??
[16:59] <paulens12> hello
[16:59] <linuxearth> How the famous android phone application 'whatsapp' can be used in the linux in the easiest way??
[16:59] <jjosh> eclipse kepler menu is not showing up in 3.10
[16:59] <jjosh> are they working on it?
[16:59] <paulens12> i'm trying to automate git commit/push
[17:00] <jrib> paulens12: why...?
[17:00] <paulens12> the problem is that it asks for password everytime
[17:00] <OerHeks> linuxearth, not. if you find a way, let us know.
[17:00] <linuxearth> lol
[17:00] <paulens12> jrib: i want to commit and push with a single click
[17:00] <paulens12> jrib: i'm making a lot of changes
[17:00] <paulens12> jrib: and writing a long command is just too much...
[17:00] <jrib> paulens12: so commit your lots of changes and then push them?
[17:01] <jjosh> you can do that with smartgit
[17:01] <paulens12> you don't get my point
[17:01] <paulens12> i don't want to use commands
[17:01] <jrib> paulens12: there are a few gui frontends for git
[17:01] <paulens12> jrib: and they all don't work as they're supposed to work...
[17:01] <jrib> paulens12: how so?
[17:01] <paulens12> for example, one asks for password all the time
[17:02] <paulens12> another keeps disconnecting
[17:02] <paulens12> i want it to remember my password
[17:02] <jrib> paulens12: that's likely because you need a password to push?  Are you pushing to a remote server?  How do you login?
[17:02] <paulens12> and why those silly questions?
[17:02] <paulens12> JRIB
[17:02] <paulens12> LISTEN TO ME
[17:02] <paulens12> I'M ANNOYED TO ENTER THE PASSWORD
[17:02] <paulens12> GET IT NOW?
[17:02] <FloodBot1> paulens12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <paulens12> gosh..
[17:02] <jrib> paulens12: i'm trying to understand what it is you actually want to do.    Are you pushing to a remote server?  How do you login?
[17:03] <chegney> fixed my audio skipping with this --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1132562
[17:03] <paulens12> jrib: dude, i know.
[17:04] <CHA0> Fuknor
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: i want the password to be stored in the sh file
[17:04] <jrib> paulens12: can you answer my questions?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: and yes, it's remote.
[17:04] <CHA0> No
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: what questions?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: what more questions you have?
[17:04] <CHA0> Malla malli
[17:04] <jrib> paulens12: "how do you login?"  Using ssh?
[17:04] <Myrtti> CHA0: did you actually have anything worthwhile to give to the discussion?
[17:04] <hexacode> hey you guys. i have this old netbook running ubuntu. thing is, the screen broke...i dont have any extra monitors lying around, so i was wondering if anyone knew the old fashion console way of using linux? like, can i take a serial wire and minicom on another linux to that netbooks' serial port?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: no, http
[17:04] <jrib> paulens12: eh?
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: can't get ssh working
[17:04] <chegney> I have a dell inspiron netbook though, so it is clearly an wider issue than that bug
[17:04] <paulens12> jrib: i log in using http
[17:05] <paulens12> like git pull (url)
[17:05] <CHA0> Use putty client
[17:05] <paulens12> then it asks for my username and password
[17:06] <jrib> paulens12: probably the easiest thing for you to do is to push over ssh and setup ssh keys as was suggested by someone else
[17:06] <paulens12> ok, i made a ssh key, now where do i put it? please? xD
[17:06] <CHA0> Dont listen to dickens
[17:06] <jrib> paulens12: how did you make it?
[17:06] <CHA0> He doesnt know anything
[17:06] <paulens12> jrib: ok thx.. that's so bad... sourcetree (win/mac) remembers the password and that ends all the efforts..
[17:06] <tasslehoff> Fixed a broken ssh on my server. I added "UseDNS no" to my sshd_config and could no longer log in. Now I
[17:07] <paulens12> jrib: used the instructions on the git site
[17:07] <CHA0> Fucknor
[17:07] <tasslehoff> 'm trying to find out from the logs what I broke, but I see nothing
[17:07] <bazhang> CHA0, stop that
[17:07] <jrib> paulens12: I don't know what that means
[17:07] <CHA0> M a gay
[17:07] <paulens12> jrib: wait a sec
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> chegney, Your conclusions are at best assumptions, and this is not a flag waving channel it is legit support.
[17:07] <chegney> hexacode: go to your local goodwill store and find a monitor for like 5-10 bucks
[17:08] <paulens12> ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "email"
[17:08] <paulens12> then cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[17:08] <chegney> wilee-nilee: I ran that command in the bug and rebooted and it worked, so it is some kernel issue with intel audio
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: see it?
[17:09] <jrib> paulens12: please use pastebin or use a single line.  Did you do anything else?
[17:09] <chegney> not just that particular machine
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: uploaded the key to the site
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: used "Add an SSH Key"
[17:09] <andry> i am kind of bored, any suggestions for a great icon theme? :P
[17:09] <jrib> paulens12: so can you login now over ssh and not get prompted for a password?
[17:09] <paulens12> jrib: i have no idea where to put that key on the client side...
[17:10] <droddie> Are you guys talking about hacking?
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: i don't know how to log in with that
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: it's already in the right spot
[17:10] <droddie> Or servering?
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: i said in the client side? xD
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: just login how you normally would.
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: I know
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> droddie, No.
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: using the ssh url?
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: is this github or somethnig?
[17:10] <droddie> :P
[17:10] <droddie> mkay
[17:10] <paulens12> like username@serveraddr
[17:10] <paulens12> jrib: no, it's gitlab
[17:10] <jrib> paulens12: sure, ssh user@host
[17:11] <paulens12> jrib: so i run ssh command? sorry, i never used ssh before :/
[17:11] <jrib> paulens12: yes
[17:11] <jrib> paulens12: how did you login before with a password?
[17:11] <paulens12> jrib: just did git pull url
[17:11] <jrib> paulens12: ok
[17:12] <paulens12> jrib: then it asked me for the username and password
[17:12] <crash1hd> if you run a mv command say mv /foo /bar and its running without stopping it and I forgot to do -v is there a way to see its status?
[17:12] <jrib> crash1hd: you could just ls /foo and see how much is left
[17:12] <paulens12> jrib: should i include the git address in the host?
[17:13] <paulens12> jrib: like git.somesite.com or like git.somesite.com:someproject.git?
[17:13] <jrib> paulens12: no; also you may not be allowed to actually get a shell on the host.  I don't know about your server.  You should just specify "git.somesite.com"
[17:13] <crash1hd> jrib, smart right thanks :)
[17:14] <f3rsportas> Best music in the world, http://plug.dj/try-the-best/ welcome to our DJ website. :)
[17:14] <paulens12> jrib: so it asks for password, now i use the regular password"
[17:14] <paulens12> ?
[17:14] <f3rsportas> Best music in the world, http://plug.dj/try-the-best/ welcome to our DJ website. :)
[17:14] <jrib> paulens12: it shouldn't ask for a password if you didn't put a password on your ssh key
[17:14] <paulens12> jrib: i didn't xD
[17:14] <paulens12> jrib: i put my email
[17:15] <jrib> paulens12: as a comment, right?
[17:15] <paulens12> jrib: no, i think i generated it from my email
[17:15] <jrib> paulens12: um, ok
[17:15] <paulens12> jrib: it's like ssh-rsa (a lot of letters)== (my email)
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: yeah that's just a comment so you can keep track of lots of keys
[17:16] <paulens12> jrib: oh
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: anyway, if you used the web interface to add your key, try a git pull
[17:16] <paulens12> jrib: but i generated the key with ssh-keygen -t rsa -C (email)
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: (over ssh)
[17:16] <jrib> paulens12: yes, -C just specificies a comment
[17:17] <paulens12> jrib: ok, i see... but now to try pull, i just do git pull user@host dir?
[17:18] <jrib> paulens12: uh, try a fresh clone instead; it will be easier
[17:18] <jrib> paulens12: git clone ssh://...
[17:18] <paulens12> jrib: no user@host?
[17:18] <nbastin> so, 13.04 changed such that if downloading Packages fails, it doesn't try Packages.gz?
[17:19] <jrib> paulens12: git clone ssh://user@host
[17:20] <paulens12> jrib: nope, permission denied :/
[17:20] <nbastin> if only someone would document these changes
[17:20] <jrib> paulens12: verify you have your private key at ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[17:21] <paulens12> jrib: ok, maybe i'll just contact my project manager later, because i have to go now :/
[17:21] <paulens12> bye
[17:21] <jrib> paulens12: ok
[17:23] <Achilles`> Hi all, anyone got ideas about PIN - Instrumentation? I've placed all the header files in /usr/local/include/ … but I still get errors with the PIN Data types UINT64, VOID, and all the pin calls….. Any ideas?
[17:27] <eer> Why does my /etc/resolv.conf has the entry nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> and not the IP of the gateway? But still I get to webpages.
[17:28] <eer> Is this correct?
[17:28] <OEP> is there a guide for installing the official nvidia driver without borking it? I can't really find an updated guide for 13.04.
[17:28] <danlee> eer: i think your ubuntu is using dnsmasq, right?
[17:29] <DeepBlue> hi,the system sounds is not working
[17:29] <eer> eer, I have no idea
[17:29] <DeepBlue> i'm not getting any sound alerts
[17:30] <kelly> hello guys
[17:30] <danlee> eer: you can run "ps -ef | grep dnsmasq"
[17:30] <kelly> i need help
[17:31] <rootpt> My wireless doesn't work in my laptop toshiba c855, can some one help me please
[17:31] <kelly> i have a Notebook which I sometimes connect it to a Monitor "hp w2207h". There is nothing in the external monitor what i mean there is no panel,unity launcher .. etc as you can see in the picture, this is the first time i connect my notebook to an external monitor, The question is : How to move panel,unity launcher to the external monitor , i hope you guys understand me.
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, identify the wireless hardware, lspci if internal lsusb if external
[17:32] <eer> danlee, Yes, looks like it.
[17:33] <kelly> any idea guys
[17:33] <DeepBlue>  hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts
[17:33] <eer> My Ubuntu is kind of slow loading finding web pages. Why could that be? I have a 150Mbit connection. Loading the page is fast but I have to wait like 1-2 seconds ofter until the loading starts.
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> kelly, what picture
[17:33] <danlee> eer: so your ubuntu is using dnsmasq to resolve the dns. That's why /etc/resolv.conf has entry <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:34] <rootpt> 08:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[17:34] <rootpt> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[17:34] <eer> danlee, yes
[17:34] <kelly> wilee-nilee, i don't have it now
[17:35] <kelly> wilee-nilee, do you understand my problem
[17:35] <danlee> eer: you may try to add more dns server into /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[17:35] <danlee> like <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:35] <danlee> which is a dns server from Google
[17:35] <danlee> or add the closest dns server from your ISP
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, RTL's are notoriously a problem when they are, here is a link, that's about the best I can do. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604101
[17:37] <eer> danlee, how could that possibly speed it up?
[17:37] <eer> danlee, that would only help is a DNS server is down
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> kelly, open display and see your options there.
[17:38] <rootpt> i will see that, thanks wilee-nilee
[17:38] <OerHeks> eer 1-2 second wait before loading is not unusual
[17:39] <rootpt> wish command to see my kernel version?
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, I think its worth sharing the google search I used. https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=RTL8188CE+ubuntu
[17:39] <danlee> eer: your dns resolving slowness might be due to using dns server which is far away from you
[17:39] <rootpt> wilee-nilee thanks again nam :-\
[17:40] <rootpt> how can I see my current kernel version
[17:40] <eer> danlee, I don't have an dnsmasq.conf
[17:41] <OEP> rootpt: uname -vr
[17:41] <rootpt> thanks OEP
[17:41] <eer> danlee, only an /etc/dnsmasq.d/ dir
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> rootpt,  uname -a the google search does not resolve correctly in FF here it is again, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=RTL8188CE+ubuntu&gbv=1&sei=ryxcUtfnGMXiiAKE-IHIBA
[17:42] <rohit> hii
[17:43] <qum> I am trying to install skype in ubuntu 12.04 from ubuntu-tweak. I got some error:"The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." Any help?
[17:43] <danlee> eer: you can change your dns server in Network Manager
[17:44] <eer> danlee, what is the file?
[17:44] <bekks> qum: Thats a notice, not an error. You have to decide yourself wether you want to install packages from not authenticated sources.
[17:44] <danlee> There is a icon on the top right corner
[17:44] <qum> bekks, nope mate. can only close the window. I don't have any options.
[17:45] <OerHeks> qum maybe you need to enable ubuntu partner repository
[17:45] <qum> OerHeks, maybe) How?
[17:46] <OerHeks> qum softwarecenter > edit > sources
[17:46] <bazhang> !partner | qum
[17:46] <au_> hi, sound doesn't work, 12.04, what can I do? :) :O
[17:47] <bazhang> !audio | au_
[17:47] <SkinArt1973_> joining channel
[17:48] <au_> bazhang: thanks
[17:49] <SkinArt1973> joining channel
[17:50] <oal> Any ideas why Dovecot won't start after installing dovecot-postfix? Any error files I can check?
[17:50] <oal> Postfix starts as expected
[17:52] <au_> hi, playing aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav works but I can't hear any sound from youtube or other other applications :(
[17:53] <au_> sound -> applications there's only alsa-plugin and it's on
[17:53] <OEP> as best I can tell, I should install nvidia-304 or nvidia-319 to get my graphics card working optimally, yet both these packages hang the system upon boot
[17:53] <SkinArt1973> joining channel
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> SkinArt1973  stop that "joining channel" script, please
[17:55] <edge731> hello, friends, can somebody help me debugging something with mi graphics card?
[17:56] <edge731> im not very experienced on this
[17:56] <au_> anyone to help me with sound?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> OEP, I'm not real up on graphic drivers, however those that get help give more details, for example if you have dual graphic cards, hardware essentially.
[17:57] <SonikkuAmerica> edge731: What's your card.
[17:57] <DeepBlue>  hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts
[17:57] <OEP> wilee-nilee: nothing too special thought it's a single GTX 660 I believe
[17:57] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: can you get media playback sound?
[17:57] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: like if you play videos?
[17:59] <OEP> well at the very least nouveau is working, hooray for it
[17:59] <edge731> i´ just noticed that there are updates pendign, maybe there is a fix, lets se (it started yesterday)
[18:00] <DeepBlue> gordonjcp:  yep
[18:00] <rootpt> wilee-nilee can u see this error when i try to "make install" that download
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, I'm not your help on this wireless issue directly.
[18:03] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: there is a setting to mute those annoying boings and beeps
[18:03] <gordonjcp> DeepBlue: maybe yours is muted, check the sound settings
[18:04] <rootpt> wilee-nilee sorry ?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, Read my posts to you I already stated my limitations
[18:05] <rootpt> ok..
[18:05] <rootpt> can someone give me a little help on this http://pastebin.com/b9mKGEGT
[18:05] <rootpt> please.
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> rootpt, If I new this stuff I would help, I doubt you want me guessing. ;)
[18:06] <DeepBlue> gordonjcp: i checkd,allcontrollers r ser 2 over 59,none is muted
[18:07] <DeepBlue> gordonjcp: i checkd,all controllers r set 2 over 59,none is muted
[18:07] <rootpt> wilee-nilee u'right mate, sorry and thanks for all
[18:07] <ienic> hello
[18:11] <drmagoo> rootpt, 2 questions, do you have the package "build-essential" installed and did you do a "make" before the "make install" ?
[18:12] <Pici> 70
[18:13] <Butch128> I've got a server email spam issue - disabled sendmail, however, something keep filling up /var/spool/mqueue-client - any way to find out what it submitting the mail jobs?
[18:13] <DJ_Unibob> quick question.  Does 13.04 support P/S2 keyboards if the motherboard has a P/S2 kb and M port?
[18:13] <cgtdk> DJ_Unibob: works fine for me
[18:13] <Pici> DJ_Unibob: I don't see any reason why it shouldn't.
[18:13] <buu> Butch128: Is it something running locally?
[18:13] <DJ_Unibob> hmmm, alright.  It's only temporary while I do some heavy cleaning of my USB keyboard.
[18:14] <Butch128> buu: there is a production site running apache.  I cannot disable it, unfortunately (production site)
[18:14] <buu> Butch128: Sorry I don't actually know much about mqueue-client, I was just wondering if you could use lsof or something to see what is actually opening that file
[18:14] <Butch128> this is my running process list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:15] <Butch128> buu: mqueue-client is just where emails are queued up for mailing
[18:15] <MariusIT> test
[18:15]  * MariusIT test
[18:15] <Johnny_Linux> ing
[18:16]  * MariusIT salute thumbs with respect.
[18:18] <qum> sdfsd
[18:18] <rosshsr> running 13.04 dual boot with windows 8, everytime i boot ubuntu from GRUB it turns the brightness down to zero on my lenovo ideapad, anyone know a quick fix?
[18:19] <rootpt> drmagoo i have the build-essential installed and yes, i did sudo su then make and give erros and then make install to test and give me those errors too
[18:20] <edge731> well, i updated and it didnt fix the problem
[18:20] <drmagoo> rootpt, can you pastebin the errors from the 'make'
[18:20] <rootpt> just 1 min drmagoo
[18:20] <thumpba> how do i fix this perl: warning for local settings
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> !details | edge731
[18:20] <edge731> i explain my situation: i have a AMD hd 3200 M , and yesterday i shutted down my computer the bad way
[18:20] <thumpba> http://hastebin.com/wimoqeqere.sm
[18:21] <edge731> after that im not able to enter unity, im from xfce now
[18:21] <thumpba> I'm on 13.04
[18:21] <edge731> and when i make a glxinfo, it says that there are no devices
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> edge731, All in one line.
[18:21] <edge731> but in lshw my cards appears
[18:21] <edge731> sorry
[18:22] <edge731> ubuntu 13.10
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | edge731
[18:23] <rootpt> drmagoo -> http://pastebin.com/ZVR3UCWf
[18:23] <ananth> connect chat.facebook.com
[18:23] <edge731> ubuntu 13.10, unity does not work, xfce does, lshw shows card, glxinfo not, i already tried using old kernels from grub, there is a package i should reconfigure, thats related to my card? (i know, i maded a distro ugrade like from 3 months ago)
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> edge731, #ubuntu+1 is the 13.10 channel.
[18:24] <rootpt> drmagoo wait i've made a mistake 1 min
[18:25] <edge731> wilee-nilee: okey, going
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> edge731, cool a little slower there, and good help.
[18:26] <rootpt> drmagoo http://pastebin.com/GP21qmah
[18:27] <Pessimist> ks
[18:27] <Pessimist> My CPU usage is around 20-30% and ubuntu is sluggish, slow. Any tips to increase performance? Nvidia blob, ubuntu 12.04.3, all packages updated
[18:28] <yeik> Pessimist, what cpu do you have?
[18:29] <drmagoo> rootpt, you know that there is a newer release of compat-wireless ? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/#compat-wireless_stable_releases
[18:29] <Pessimist> The window manager feels kinda slow. yeik, http://pastebin.com/e8WGwBGU
[18:30] <rootpt> is that ok for "toshiba C855 RTL8188CE ubuntu 13.04"
[18:30] <rootpt> ?
[18:31] <jjosh> eclipse kepler menu ?? doesnt work with unity ? any fixes ?
[18:34] <drmagoo> rootpt, hang on, let me download the file and see if I can compile it.
[18:35] <rootpt> drmagoo is that ok for "toshiba C855 RTL8188CE ubuntu 13.04" 08:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
[18:35] <rootpt> ok thanks
[18:35] <drmagoo> rootpt, hang on a sec ...
[18:37] <rootpt> drmagoo ok, thanks.
[18:39] <Pessimist> Can it just be that my pc has old cpu socket / old ram (as in the technology aspect) that makes unity run slow?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, how much ram?
[18:40] <Pessimist> wilee-nilee, 2gb
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, kinda low for 64 bit, you might try a lighter desktop.
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, Install htop and see whats eating the cpu.
[18:43] <LuciusFox> Hello. Can somebody help me with an "apt-get" issue?
[18:43] <Pessimist> wilee-nilee, kernel on my system is 32bit. Cpu usage almost never exceeds 50%. The windows manager just feels slow, animations, moving windows, unity menu are not as smooth as it should be
[18:44] <jrib> LuciusFox: say the actual issue
[18:44] <Pessimist> brb
[18:46] <LuciusFox> i was installing many packages at once with "apt-get install", but lost internet connectivity when some packages were still to be downloaded. now i cannot install those remaining packages
[18:46] <Kalel> Greetings.
[18:46] <Kalel> LuciusFox: Yes, you can.
[18:46] <LuciusFox> Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap
[18:47] <Kalel> LuciusFox: Just run the same 'apt-get install...' be sure you're online.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> LuciusFox, You might have to run sudo apt-get -f install
[18:48] <LuciusFox> yes, i am online. i installed some other programs. but while installing those packages it says "Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap
[18:48] <LuciusFox> "
[18:48] <Kalel> LuciusFox: If doesn't works, try apt-get install -f
[18:49] <Kalel> I want to change the theme icon just inhte systray..
[18:49] <Kalel> ..in the systrey.
[18:51] <drmagoo> rootpt, i think i have a solution for you =)
[18:52] <rootpt> drmagoo tell me please
[18:52] <drmagoo> rootpt, how well do you know 'vi' ?
[18:52] <rootpt> i prefer nano
[18:52] <rootpt> :X
[18:52] <xtriz> what does iirc means ?
[18:52] <rootpt> not very well but i can try
[18:52] <Pici> xtriz: if I recall correctly.
[18:53] <pheex> guys!? can someone help me with a hacking challenge??
[18:53] <Rena> anyone knows when Lubuntu 13.10 is to come out?
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> !13.10
[18:53] <Rena> cool thanks
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Rena: ^
[18:54] <Mathisen> pheex ?
[18:55] <drmagoo> rootpt, ok, that will work =) make sure you edit the following files with 'nano -w [file]'. in the main directory there is a file called pci.h on line 247 it says (among other things) __devinit. remove just the __devinit part, leave the rest and then in the rtl8188ee directory you need to edit the file sw.c and search for __devinitdata. remove just that part *__devinitdata' leave the rest of the code there...
[18:55] <rootpt> ok
[18:55] <rootpt> i will try
[18:55] <drmagoo> rootpt, these is because of some change in the 3.x kernel that doesnt "handle/like" __devinit... dont ask me why ;)
[18:56] <rootpt> and tell u something
[18:56] <Pici> pheex: Its likely not on-topic for this channel.
[18:56] <rootpt> =)
[18:56] <rootpt> brb
[18:56] <rootpt> i will do that
[18:56] <drmagoo> rootpt, good luck
[18:56] <pheex> Pici: sorry
[18:56] <rootpt> thanks
[18:58] <Guest77832> ll
[18:58] <DeepBlue> hi,the system sounds is not working ,i'm not getting any sound alerts
[18:59] <reisio> DeepBlue: you getting any audio?
[18:59] <DeepBlue> reisio: yep nut no beebs
[19:00] <reisio> from what do you want a beep?
[19:00] <DeepBlue> <  reisio: yep but no beeps
[19:00] <qum> I played with the ubuntu-tweak and now i don't have any mouse action on desktop, for an example clicking right mouse button would popup a menu. I think restart will solve(maybe) but is there another way?
[19:00] <DeepBlue> reisio:  4 xchat
[19:01] <jrib> qum: you probably disabled nautilus from drawing your desktop
[19:01] <qum> jrib, how do i enable it back?
[19:01] <reisio> DeepBlue: on the 'Sound' item you can specify what application to play a sound with
[19:01] <reisio> DeepBlue: might I recommend mplayer
[19:01] <kam> sup ubuntu, i set a command that's something like "exec=/opt/to-executable" path, how do I reverse that?
[19:01] <reisio> kam: how'd you set it?
[19:02] <jrib> qum: use ubuntu-tweak?
[19:02] <kam> command line reisio
[19:02] <reisio> kam: with what command
[19:02] <rootpt> drmagoo after that, in the rtl8188ee directory i do "make" and seems to do all fine.. but when i try to do make install it says: make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.
[19:02] <kam> "Exec=/opt/eclipse/eclipse"
[19:02] <reisio> kam: open a new tab, close old one?
[19:02] <kostkon> DeepBlue, "paplay" for external app or "canberra-gtk-play -f"
[19:03] <kam> then I used "sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/eclipse"
[19:03] <drmagoo> rootpt, hang on
[19:03] <rootpt> ok
[19:03] <kam> reisio: yes, I followed the directions on the wrong blog
[19:03] <reisio> kam: sudo ln -s /opt/eclipse/elipse shouldn't do anything
[19:03] <kam> rather, I need to set the path to a different file all together.
[19:03] <Kalel> How can I set an icon just for systray?
[19:04] <kam> I created eclipse.desktop file that went into my applications folder, which is the icon I need to drop in my desktop
[19:04] <kriskropd> how might I use mailx to check an imap inbox for new messages as a binary output?
[19:05] <drmagoo> rootpt, you do make in the rtl8188ee directory, then go down one step to the main directory and do make install there
[19:05] <bekks> drmagoo: You never ever do make install. You use checkinstall instead.
[19:05] <rootpt> drmagoo ok i will try
[19:05] <drmagoo> bekks, ok =)
[19:06] <drmagoo> rootpt, do as bekks said. checkinstall
[19:06] <rootpt> an error drmagoo
[19:06] <bekks> rootpt: Which error?
[19:06] <rootpt> w8
[19:07] <kam> reisio: is it not possible to do it?
[19:07] <rootpt> i need to install checkinstall first to do like bekks says
[19:08] <reisio> kam: what?
[19:08] <bekks> rootpt: Then do so.
[19:08] <DeepBlue> reisio: good  idea except that i'm enterrupted every time i get alerts
[19:09] <kam> to reverse "Exec=/opt/..." because now I have the executable sitting in my Home dir
[19:09] <rootpt> but the error is this one, wait.. puting on bash
[19:09] <rootpt> drmagoo http://pastebin.com/f4TdjZAr
[19:10] <DeepBlue> kostken, this was helpful  ,thnx
[19:10] <reisio> DeepBlue: hrmm?
[19:10] <bekks> rootpt: Dont do make install. You may mess up your system when doing it without checkinstall.
[19:10] <reisio> kam: what part of reversing it is confusing you?
[19:11] <DeepBlue> reisio:  u 2
[19:11] <kam> reisio: how do I unmake the command "Exec=/opt..." How do I reverse it? do I do "NotExec=/opt.."
[19:11] <rootpt> bekks ok, im always learning thanks
[19:11] <bjensen82> Im trying to make a bootable usb to install ubuntu 12.04 with. Can someone point me to a resource on how to make the bootable usb using a mac?
[19:12] <reisio> bjensen82: http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[19:12] <drmagoo> rootpt, there is a __devinit line in pci.c also that you need to edit. same thing there just remove the __devinit part leave the rest of the line
[19:12] <Pici> kam: if you're talking about setting the environment variable 'Exec', then just do unset Exec
[19:12] <rootpt> in wich directory ?
[19:12] <kam> Pici: Ah! thank you!
[19:13] <rootpt> the 1º one ?
[19:13] <reisio> using exec the way he ran it wouldn't persist
[19:13] <reisio> I'm not sure it'd even work
[19:14] <drmagoo> rootpt, yes in the main directory
[19:20] <rootpt> drmagoo can u tell me the line number?
[19:20] <yan__> hi, could somebody help me finding out why my processor is very busy all the time? it's new since a couple of days. top tells me no large processes, but %sy is constantly between 30 and 60. any way I can find out which process is causing this?
[19:20] <rootpt> drmagoo its ok, i find it
[19:20] <drmagoo> rootpt,  ok =)
[19:20] <bekks> yan__: "top"
[19:21] <yan__> bekks: I tried top, but as I said: "top tells me no large processes, but %sy is constantly between 30 and 60."
[19:22] <bekks> yan__: Then pastebin the output of "ps aux" please.
[19:22] <rootpt> drmagoo after that, reboot?
[19:22] <rootpt> the checkinstall was sucessfull
[19:22] <bekks> rootpt: Then install the resulting .deb
[19:23] <rootpt> bekks ? :X wheres that?
[19:23] <bekks> rootpt: In the directory where you ran checkinstall...
[19:23] <yan__> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6237384/
[19:23] <rootpt> i've got no debian packs there
[19:24] <Aniar> i have a laptop running Kubuntu 13.04 (upgrade from 12.?? . I had a disk problem, so I booted to a kubuntu 13.04 live CD to do the backup/restore to new disk... in the livecd boot, I noticed I had gotten an IPv6 address from AT&T (finally) which I need for some testing...
[19:24] <Aniar> when I got back into my normal install... no ipv6 addresses have been recieved.
[19:25] <Aniar> sysctl.conf has only uncommented entries.  I'm using network manager, and IPv6 is enabled on both connctions (wireless and wired)
[19:25] <bekks> yan__: kioslaves from KDE are running wild as it seems.
[19:25] <Aniar> (wired is where I noticed it picked up on the livecd)
[19:25] <Aniar> nothing in /etc/network/ mentioning ipv6... so what am I missing that needs to be changed to get ipv6 working on this system?
[19:25] <yan__> bekks: hm, what are kioslaves?
[19:25] <Aniar> i have link local addresses, just not the router-assigned ones
[19:26] <yan__> bekks: funny, it just stopped, but I don't know why
[19:26] <bekks> yan__: Some internal kde stuff :) I used KDE too long ago, I cant remember more specifically.
[19:26] <bekks> yan__: then you closed some program?
[19:27] <yan__> bekks: hehe, ok. no, right now i didn't close anything. before, i closed everything, but %sy stayed up
[19:27] <yan__> bekks: strange
[19:27] <Jordan_U> Aniar: What makes you think that your router/modem/ISP supports ipv6? Can you pastebin the output of "route -n"? and "ifconfig"?
[19:27] <yan__> bekks: how did you notice that kioslaves might be the problem?
[19:28] <Aniar> because every CentOS and Windows box got an IPV6 address.  Because in the LiveCD, I got an IPv6 address.  Because I asked AT&T to assign me one, which they did, which is where I got the address subnet
[19:28] <drmagoo> rootpt, no errors from checkinstall ? can you do a ls in the main directory and also include the output from from checkinstall into a pastebin
[19:28] <Aniar> from the system I'm running irssi on: inet6 addr: 2602:306:31db:
[19:28] <rootpt> drmagoo ok
[19:28] <Aniar> Jordan_U: that's not link-local - that's a real assigned address.
[19:30] <bekks> yan__: lines 165-167 in your pastebin
[19:30] <rootpt> im seeying a error in the final of the checkinstall
[19:31] <yan__> bekks: ah ok. it might have to do with akregator.. i'll check. thanks a lot!
[19:31] <rootpt> i will paste in pastebin
[19:31] <Jordan_U> Aniar: And the output?
[19:32] <eer> What exactly does it mean when the gateway in the routing table is <IP_ADDRESS> ? That doesn't make sense to me.
[19:32] <eer> How can a gateway be anyting?
[19:32] <Aniar> Jordan_U: They're useless because they have only link-local addresses
[19:32] <magdur> guys when will be released ubuntu 13.10?
[19:32] <rootpt> drmagoo http://pastebin.com/gfaxuQG6
[19:32] <cgtdk> magdur: oct. 17th
[19:33] <eer> Is it safe to say that when gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> that entry is a LAN address then?
[19:33] <bekks> eer: Whats the entire output? Pastebin it please.
[19:33] <Jordan_U> Aniar: If there's no ipv6 default gateway then that's your problem.
[19:33] <bekks> eer: And no, thats neither safe, nor true.
[19:33] <magdur> should am i upgrade 13.04 from 13.10 ?
[19:34] <Aniar> Jordan_U: to recap another way: I've always had link-local (FE80::) addresses in my environment.  AT&T gave me an assigned IPv6 subnet last week, configured their end of my router. Today my whole Unix/Windows lab is picking up those auto-configured IPv6 addresses from that network.  Except my laptop, and only when my laptop is in my upgraded 13.04 build.  When I booted it from the liveCD, it got an address.
[19:34] <Aniar> Jordan_U: so, to recap: only 1 system of 18 is broken
[19:34] <Aniar> Jordan_U: the one that's broken is the only system in the lab that was an upgrade rather than a clean build.
[19:35] <eer> bekks, http://pastebin.com/T3C32xU7
[19:35] <Aniar> Jordan_U: so, *my* analysis (which I admin could be wrong) is that I have something misconfigured on this local machine.  But I don't know what
[19:35] <TheAvatar> Hello. I am trying to extend a partition that resides on vmware and using lvm. I extended the physical disk (vmware), but now I try to remove and extend the extended partition. Right now it resides from block 501760, but when I delete it, and try to recreate it, it refuses to start until 503806. What am I missing here?
[19:35] <bekks> eer: And which line is unclear?
[19:36] <cgtdk> magdur: you should probably wait until it is released, and I'd wait a couple of weeks after it is released
[19:36] <eer> bekks, all
[19:36] <drmagoo> rootpt, you do get an error.
[19:36] <eer> <IP_ADDRESS> means any address, right?
[19:36] <bekks> eer: then please read "man route".
[19:36] <Aniar> Jordan_U: I took a guess...      8   768 ACCEPT     ipv6-icmp    any    any     anywhere             anywhere             ipv6-icmp router-advertisement
[19:37] <Aniar> Jordan_U: and it worked
[19:37] <eer> bekks, where in man route does it explain about the <IP_ADDRESS> value ?
[19:37] <drmagoo> rootpt, you need to edit all the sw.c-files in every subdirectory... I think that is the easiest way, instead of messing about with the makefile
[19:37] <eer> bekks, can't find the spot
[19:37] <bekks> eer: Then read the entire man page please.
[19:38] <eer> is Author the end of the man page?
[19:38] <Guest65580> hey friends ,  i  cant record sound from spotify with audacity ... dont know what i am doing wrong ...  i can see spotify in pulse controler  but no visuals for playing sound
[19:38] <rootpt> drmagoo u're right :-\
[19:38] <rootpt> im sick of this
[19:38] <rootpt> :X
[19:39] <reisio> eer: usually
[19:39] <drmagoo> rootpt, I can fully understand that... this is the boring part with drivers
[19:39] <unkmar> How long is a release supported?
[19:39] <bekks> unkmar: Depends on the exact release.
[19:40] <tgm4883> unkmar, 9 months starting with 13.04 for non-LTS releases. 5 years for LTS releases
[19:40] <eer> Anybody knows the man page where the value <IP_ADDRESS> in regards to routing is explained?
[19:40] <unkmar> tgm4883: and LTS's are the x.04 ???
[19:40] <bekks> eer: How about reading the entire man page to basically understand routing?
[19:40] <tgm4883> unkmar, no, LTS are the x.04 every other year. (eg. 10.04, 12.04, 14.04)
[19:41] <lmat> Is there an easy way to search http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[19:41] <tgm4883> bekks, I've not read the backlog, so feel free to tell me to buzz off, but this is starting to sound a lot like RTFM, which I think is frowned upon
[19:42] <rootpt> drmagoo i think i will need to start to think to use another distro :-\
[19:42] <tgm4883> lmat, go to google and do "site:irclogs.ubuntu.com WORDS TO SEARCH FOR"
[19:42] <drmagoo> rootpt, Im afraid that you will have the same issue with any distro. When it comes to the Realtek drivers
[19:43] <eer> If I enter netstat -tuna I get for example <IP_ADDRESS>:80 for local address. Meaning a web server is running. But why <IP_ADDRESS> and not <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[19:43] <rootpt> geez
[19:43] <TheAvatar> eer, because <IP_ADDRESS> means all available interfaces. <IP_ADDRESS> is only local host
[19:43] <tgm4883> eer, in some instances, <IP_ADDRESS> means listen on any interface. This is not always the case
[19:43] <rootpt> this will always be like this?
[19:43] <TheAvatar> eer, if it said <IP_ADDRESS>, which is very much possible, there is no way anybody externally (lan+internet) can access it
[19:44] <eer> TheAvatar, so for testing purposes on a test machine. Now I understand.
[19:44] <TheAvatar> eer, say, you have 2 network cards, and/or multiple ip addresses on the machine. <IP_ADDRESS> means it will bind (and hence reply) on both nics and all IP-addresses (more or less)
[19:44] <eer> TheAvatar, thx
[19:45] <rootpt> drmagoo i used kali-linux before install ubuntu 13.04 and it was nice.. wireless running very well...
[19:45] <TheAvatar> eer, depending on what you test, you would hardly want e.g. a webserver to bind on <IP_ADDRESS>, but of course, it is possible, and in some scenarios, you might want that
[19:45] <eer> So <IP_ADDRESS> can be translated into English like: all installed network cards and their IP addresses?
[19:45] <bekks> eer: No.
[19:45] <bekks> eer: It strongly depends on the context.
[19:46] <TheAvatar> eer, well, as a newbie question, I guess you could say yes, but the answer is no
[19:46] <drmagoo> rootpt, Havent tried that distro. =)
[19:46] <TheAvatar> eer, it is not as straight forward, but I guess in most cases, that translation would be somewhat correct
[19:46] <eer> ok
[19:47] <tgm4883> TheAvatar, I believe the context he is asking about is the routing table
[19:47] <reisio> eer: ok
[19:47] <rootpt> i read somewhere a dude have this error like me, and then he install mint and never get that error again, it is possible?
[19:47] <rootpt> drmagoo i read somewhere a dude have this error like me, and then he install mint and never get that error again, it is possible?
[19:47] <lmat> tgm4883: Thanks.
[19:47] <reisio> rootpt: unfortunately never ever ends, so one can't say
[19:47] <tgm4883> lmat, yw
[19:48] <TheAvatar> tgm4883, okay - I did actually join in the middle of the discussion. People just sounded reluctant to help
[19:48] <TheAvatar> eer, if we are talking routing wise, it means something else, yes
[19:48] <drmagoo> rootpt, not sure.. As I understand it it, the problem should be related to the Kernel-version and no the distro... But I'm only running Ubuntu on my boxes so I can test and verify on another distro
[19:48] <tgm4883> TheAvatar, i've not been here since the beginning either, but bekks knows what going on
[19:48] <unkmar> tgm4883: bekks:  that is what I expected to hear and not exactly what I want to hear.  Not my fault previous sys/admin installed 10.10  a non LTS.
[19:48] <eer> ok, thx
[19:48] <unkmar> Thank you.
[19:48] <rootpt> drmagoo i see :-\
[19:49] <tgm4883> unkmar, yea, I've inherited a situation much like that as well
[19:49] <rootpt> i don't know what to do drmagoo
[19:49] <TheAvatar> basically, it means all other networks that you do not have any routes (or locally) access to. So guess it could translate into anything-not-known. Others correct me if I'm wrong if this is not the basic way of explaining it
[19:49] <rootpt> i really need my laptop
[19:49] <drmagoo> rootpt, if you want it to work you need to edit the last sw.c files and then hope for the best..=)
[19:49] <TheAvatar> tgm4883, aha okay, I just read his replies as "what a noob question, go RTFM" ;)
[19:50] <rootpt> edit the files and erase that evident word ?
[19:50] <drmagoo> rootpt, yes... make sure that you get the entire word but leave the rest of that line intact
[19:51] <rootpt> drmagoo ok
[19:51] <rootpt> and
[19:51] <rootpt> can i downgrade the version of the kernel? to try to solve this problem ? drmagoo
[19:52] <drmagoo> rootpt, I think you'll run into other issues then.. easiest is just to do these last few edits
[19:52] <nightmare365> higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help
[19:53] <rootpt> drmagoo where is that file?
[19:53] <nightmare365> tt1 and thhhhhhhhhe others are working fine
[19:53] <drmagoo> rootpt, in each rt* subdirectory there is a sw.c file... you need to edit each of them
[19:54] <nightmare365> higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help
[19:54] <nightmare365> tt1 and thhhhhhhhhe others are working fine
[19:55] <rootpt> ok drmagoo
[19:55] <drmagoo> rootpt,  I need to logoff now.. hope that you solve this issue now.. good luck
[19:56] <eegore> ok why did medibuntu get shut down
[19:57] <Yowl> Is there a way to make GParted give a label or change a label of a existing partition?
[19:58] <tgm4883> eegore, because nobody is maintaining it and it's not usually necessary anymore
[19:58] <reisio> Yowl: probably, right click?
[19:58] <eegore> I got a netbood I can't get configured to run streams
[19:58] <Yowl> reisio: Seems no
[19:59] <rootpt> drmagoo i've done that, and the checkinstall runs beauty, sucessfull
[19:59] <nightmare365> higuys i have a problem with ubuntuand my keeeyboard i have to lonnng press keeeeeeys so as to type please help
[19:59] <cgtdk> !patience | nightmare365
[19:59] <reisio> Yowl: e2label, ntfslabel, swaplabel, dosfslabel
[19:59] <rootpt> but then , installing debian package.... FAILED!
[20:00] <nightmare365> sorry its just ffffffffffrustrating typing like ths
[20:00] <Yowl> reisio: Other programs to try?
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> uh oh
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> can someone help me?
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> See
[20:01] <Yowl> Is there a easy way to transfer my /home onto a partition when it didn't have it's own  partition before?
[20:01] <MangaKaDenza> I want to use airmon-ng , but every time I initiate it, it crashes my desktop
[20:04] <rootpt> bekks can u see this error http://pastebin.com/ePUamEfV
[20:04] <rootpt> in the end of file
[20:04] <rootpt> when i try to run dpkg -i file
[20:06] <C0mm4nd3r> hi guys
[20:07] <redking> hi guys so i have managed to create a new user account and the keyboard is working
[20:08] <redking> what could make the other user account not work ?
[20:08] <C0mm4nd3r> i have a problem with my creative sound blaster (audio)
[20:08] <C0mm4nd3r> can you help me ?
[20:08] <C0mm4nd3r> thanks
[20:08] <MangaKaDenza> k
[20:09] <Yowl> How do I use gparted to make one partition out of two sets of unallocated space on the same drive?
[20:10] <vlt> Yowl: Don’t think that’s possible with classic partitions.
[20:10] <Yowl> vlt What do you mean by classic partitions?
[20:11] <vlt> Yowl: But you can get one usable voume (as always) with LVM.
[20:11] <Psil0Cybin> AN
[20:11] <BluesKaj> C0mm4nd3r. creative usually uses intel hda audio  , alsmixer should show that
[20:11] <BluesKaj> alsamixer
[20:11] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys im having a problem updating ubuntu 12.04 it keeps saying im missing repos...but some of them look important
[20:11] <vlt> Yowl: A partition is a defined range on a disk.
[20:11] <Psil0Cybin> can someone help me take a look @ whats going on
[20:11] <vlt> Yowl: Two separate ranges are at least two partitions.
[20:12] <vlt> Yowl: *volume
[20:12] <Psil0Cybin> can someone please help me and tell me what is going on http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm why am i having problems updating my repos
[20:12] <Yowl> vlt: If its two partitions, how can it also be one useable volume?
[20:12] <vlt> Yowl: With LVM for example.
[20:12] <Yowl> vlt: Please expand on your example
[20:13] <vlt> Yowl: LVM takes any number of "input" devices and you can create any number of "output" devices. Including resizing on the fly ...
[20:14] <Riptide> hewwo
[20:14] <Yowl> vlt You mean merging two partitions so they seem like one, even though they really are two?
[20:15] <vlt> Yowl: LVM is a complete separate layer on top of block devices. You can put anything you like on the blcok devices LVM creates. For example file systems.
[20:15] <Riptide> Does anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:16] <Yowl> vlt: So is that a yes or a no?
[20:17] <vlt> Yowl: Technically a "no".
[20:17] <vlt> Yowl: Because (to me) it doesn’t seem like one *partition* but like one new block device.
[20:17] <gordonjcp> Yowl: go and read up on LVM
[20:18] <gordonjcp> Yowl: if it makes sense, great.  If it doesn't, reformat your disk and recreate it without gaps
[20:18] <rootpt> can someone see this error http://pastebin.com/ePUamEfV
[20:19] <Riptide> Does anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:19] <Yowl> vlt: If LVM is used to bridge a gap, does that mean you need LVM to maintain that bridge? Like what happens if you install a new OS?
[20:20] <Riptide> anyone?
[20:20] <Riptide> ...
[20:22] <Riptide> anyone?
[20:22] <Riptide> ...
[20:22] <Yowl> vlt are you still there?
[20:22] <bekks> rootpt: The firmware is missing as it looks like.
[20:22] <Riptide> Is anyone there that can help?
[20:23] <tgm4883> !patience | Riptide
[20:23] <Riptide> Ok
[20:23] <Riptide> I shall wait
[20:23] <rootpt> bekks what i need to do? sorry :-\
[20:23]  * Riptide Waiting... :)
[20:23] <craigbass1976> Where are errors going to show up with a mount command?  I don't see anything in /var/log/ that looks likely.  I'm hung up after running mount -a, and it's got to do with some samba shares.
[20:23] <bekks> rootpt: You have to provide that file, I guess.
[20:24] <craigbass1976> Riptide, I missed your question.  Maybe I can answer it while I'm waiting for mine
[20:24] <rootpt> provide to where?
[20:24] <bekks> rootpt: Where it is missing. The full path is shown.
[20:24] <Riptide> ok
[20:25] <Riptide> Does anyone know how to play/run a game called "Super Hot" on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:25] <vlt> Yowl: Please read on LVM. It creates a layer in the kernel, reads input or source devices (like partitions) and provides output devices.
[20:26] <vlt> Yowl: If you change the OS the new one has to read the physical/source volumes’s header data to provide the created devices.
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Riptide. google is your friend , http://linuxgamecast.com/lgcbbs/index.php?p=/discussion/513/super-hot-has-a-linux-version/p1
[20:26] <Riptide> I went there
[20:27] <Riptide> I dont think it say how to run the file
[20:27] <Yowl> vlt: Would that work with LUKS?
[20:27] <vlt> Yowl: Yes.
[20:28] <rootpt> bekks i have a folder named firmware and another called rtlwifi within
[20:28] <vlt> Yowl: I usually use file systems on lvm on luks on mdraid.
[20:28] <rootpt> and in the rtlwifi there was an file called rtl8192cfwU_B.bin
[20:28] <rootpt> what can i do with bins ?
[20:29] <rootpt> when i do dmesg | grep -e wlan -e rtl
[20:29] <rootpt> it says that that bin is not avaliable
[20:29] <vlt> Yowl: Sometimes I insert a DRBD layer.
[20:30] <rootpt> bekks did u understand what i'm saying? :-\
[20:31] <Nothing_Much> I'm having problems trying to get the unity panel to work :(
[20:32] <Nothing_Much> (The panel that's at the top right corner)
[20:32] <Nothing_Much> nothing shows up, need some help here!\
[20:33] <Nothing_Much> .. anybody?
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys can someone help me figure out why alot of my repos are failing it keeps saying to check my internet connection but my internet connection is fine im talking to you guys right now and downloading something
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> maybe they are down in general?
[20:35] <Psil0Cybin> although some of them look important
[20:36] <k1l> Psil0Cybin: that are PPAs. please make sure that PPAs still exist and are still maintained.
[20:36] <tgm4883> Psil0Cybin, it looks like the only ones that are down are the private-ppa ones
[20:36] <Psil0Cybin> oh okay nothing that is necessary for ubuntu security updates? I was a little confused
[20:36] <Psil0Cybin> if they are indeed not maintained, how can I remove them?
[20:37] <Psil0Cybin> how do I remove the steam ppa?
[20:37] <Psil0Cybin> for example
[20:37] <bekks> !ppa-purge | Psil0Cybin
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> so how would I find the ppa for steam for example
[20:38] <craigbass1976> Psil0Cybin, Are you on Fairpoint?  They're notorious in my neighborhood (Southern Maine) for dropping out just enough to bork an update.
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> nope Teksavvy from Toronto Canada
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> im on DSL so i never drop out
[20:38] <Corey> Hahaha Fairpoint. I remember those days :-)
[20:38] <Corey> Psil0Cybin: Fairpoint is a DSL company. :-)
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> oh aha
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> how would i remove the PPA's or figure out the repos for them?
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> sorry i am semi new to linux
[20:39] <craigbass1976> Psil0Cybin, Fairpoint was also DSL.  There's a lady at the end of my street, and I pick her laptop up every now and again to run updates at my house.  I moved to another ISP
[20:39] <Psil0Cybin> so i would do sudo ppa-purge ppa:steam ?
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> it says sudo ppa-purge not found
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> command not found
[20:40] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, you want to reomve the steam ppa?
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> yes please
[20:40] <kostkon> repo* to be precise
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> install ppa-purge
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[20:40] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, it's not a ppa, it won't work
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> so how do i remove it?
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> becasue it keeps saying that i cannot update
[20:40] <Psil0Cybin> that that i need to check my network connection
[20:41] <Psil0Cybin> when its fine
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Guys, while installing many packages at once, my internet was disconnected. Some packages were not downloaded. But, now when I try to install THOSE packages, apt gets stuck at "Waiting for headers", ALTHOUGH I can install any other package.
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> sudo apt-get install nmap
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> [sudo] password for abhay:
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Reading package lists... Done
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Building dependency tree
[20:41] <FloodBot1> Lucius_Fox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <Lucius_Fox> Reading state information... Done
[20:41] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, try in software sources, in usc select edit -> software sources
[20:41] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, usc -> ubuntu software centre
[20:42] <qum> Who can recommend me some radio clients for ubuntu pls?
[20:42] <Rena> floodbot flood :V
[20:43] <kostkon> Lucius_Fox, i guess it could have an easy solution:  give:  sudo apt-get clean    and then try again
[20:43] <kpuljek> I get a kernel panic, not syncing: no init found after a clean 12.04.3 install, what to do?
[20:44] <Lucius_Fox> Thank you so much!
[20:44] <kostkon> Lucius_Fox, ;)
[20:44] <qum> :DD
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon: so i would do sudo ppa-purge ppa:
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/n3PgMqVm
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> how can i fix those index files that failed to download
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> where do i see software sources
[20:45] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[20:45] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, in software sources, remove the steam repo entry and then just uninstall steam if that's what you want to do. i'm saying this because ppa-purge removes the ppa from the software sources and also removes any installed pacakges coming from that repo.
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> like why do i get this Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_CA  why does it ignore that?
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> when i run sudo apt-get update
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> like i want to remove W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/motorbike/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[20:47]  * Johnny_Linux slaps FloodBot1  for flooding
[20:47] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, but in this case you can't use ppa-purge to remove the steam repo from your software sources
[20:48] <Psil0Cybin> so where is the software sources?
[20:48] <rootpt> bekks its all ok know, i've wireless connection
[20:48] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, don't worry but about the ign lines, and keep your private ppas, don't remove them
[20:48] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, open the software centre, then select edit -> software sources from the menu. that's the easy way
[20:48] <rootpt> Thanks for all
[20:48] <Psil0Cybin> package manger?
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> so dont doything
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> im so confused
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> leave the errors? it keeps saying i have a problem every 35 minutes tho
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> thank you kostkon :D
[20:49] <Psil0Cybin> now i understand kk
[20:49] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, it fails to contact the server for some reason. it should be temporary
[20:49] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, ok
[20:50] <awktion> lol
[20:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay so if its temp i should leave it as is, atm?
[20:51] <Psil0Cybin> how can i check, sorry im still fairly new to linux even tho iv been using it for a ittle less than a year
[20:51] <Psil0Cybin> i have alot to learn :P
[21:01] <kpuljek> any ideas on how to fix "no init found" error on boot?
[21:04] <mramm2> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At5cjYKYHu9odGpCR0h5YzBrV2JtY3p4b2FVQU5PRmc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
[21:04] <mramm2> oops
[21:04] <mramm2> wrong window
[21:04] <Prideth> I have a problem. I have reinstalled kubuntu and now my desktopmanager does not work ( i have the x symbol and so on not :( )
[21:05] <jhutchins> kpuljek: Your grub configuration is pointing at the wrong device for root.
[21:05] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[21:06] <kpuljek> jhutchins:  but how can it, it's a brand new installation :/
[21:09] <cbilljones> whats the best way to start a program without desktop interface?
[21:13] <buu> cbilljones: ... from a terminal?
[21:14] <gordonjcp> cbilljones: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:14] <ycsapo> Hi, can anybody please point me at the right channel to talk about ubuntu cloud?
[21:15] <cbilljones> gordonjcp start a x-application on boot without a desktop env. will this work? http://askubuntu.com/questions/310671/start-ubuntu-without-a-desktop-environment-but-start-an-x-application
[21:18] <faugusztin> cbilljones: that still runs X, just without window decorations etc
[21:18] <cbilljones> faugusztin thats what i need
[21:19] <faugusztin> cbilljones: i would still suggest you installing ratpoison or similar window manager, to be able to switch between windows, but yeah, you can do that
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> or somthing tiny like jwm,
[21:20] <faugusztin> cbilljones: ratpoison = http://ratpoison.nongnu.org/
[21:20] <cbilljones> faugustzin i dont want user to be able to switch windows, this is a point of sale software
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> running with no window manger at all can be a real pain in some cases.  and given how tiny some of these wm's are - you dont save a lot on resources
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> ive seen Koisk focused disrtos out there allready premadeup.
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> you have to watch out for dialog box's that may popup. or file requestors. or print dialog box's or other things that might happen
[21:21] <faugusztin> cbilljones: well try out what is in that article you linked, if it won't satisfy your needs you can still try ratpoison etc
[21:21] <cbilljones> faugusztin do you know how i make it autologin to that entry?
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> lightdm has a autologin option, and it will rember the last seleceted session if the user logs out and selects a differnt one. (its stored in the .dmrc file)