[07:11] <derek_> deb-src http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted #Added by software-properties
[07:11] <derek_> deb http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty universe
[07:11] <derek_> deb http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
[07:11] <derek_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted
[07:11] <Enselic_> radar1976: have you tried BitTorrent?
[07:11] <jussi01> lol
[07:11] <PriceChild> jrib, argh he's flooding me in pm now :(
[07:11] <[acid] Neatchee> omg stealth ops :O
[07:11] <Gujs> help needed! I have empty applications menu and now i can't edit it with Menu Edit because it crashes. How can i restore default application menu?
[07:11] <henz> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/450155
[07:12] <animimotus> http://kubuntu.com/download.php#lts <------- here is the DVD pour Kubuntu, does it exist the same for Ubuntu ?
[07:12] <kahrytan> How do you set xchat to login with nickserv?
[07:12] <bluefox83> lichen, hey i used that little how-to i linked you to, and it worked!!!!
[07:12] <tristanmike> Hi, sorry to be a pain, but I installed Feisty last night and when I went to sleep, I could watch my DVD's, but after waking up and turning on my computer again, no DVD works, a disc doesn't even show up as inserted. Can someone please give me a hand. Thanks in advance :D
[07:12] <lichen> hey i still don't see a link.. send again :)
[07:12] <jrib> Gujs: try renaming ~/.local/share/
[07:12] <lichen> oh wait i'm not registered
[07:12] <lichen> man
[07:12] <silver6> is anyone else getting unusually slow download times with ubuntu's package manager, or is it just me?
[07:13] <PriceChild> silver6, /topic
[07:13] <lichen> just paste in here
[07:13] <silver6> ah thanks
[07:13] <PriceChild> silver6, argh that's gone... well yeah all mirrors are slow :)
[07:13] <erUSUL> henz: i asume that you are in a livecd now? you can not boot your system, right?
[07:13] <radar1976> Enselic_ you can't use bittorrent for an inplace upgrade
[07:13] <magnetron> hej sofia
[07:13] <bluefox83> silver6, a major ubuntu release just came out, millions of people are updating right now :X
[07:13] <henz> erUSUL: im not on a cd i got 6.10 installed
[07:14] <rogue780|laptop> can someone tell me how to change the default keyring password? I accidentally put it in with capslock on...and it's annoying me
[07:14] <soundray> tristanmike: loose cable?
[07:14] <alex_dinamo> has someone have any trouble with sound since Feisty update? I'm having... alsa seems all disconfigured
[07:14] <Enselic_> radar1976: oh, you mean that kind of update....
[07:14] <Lunar_Lamp> radar1976, couldn't you download the alternative cd via bittorrent and upgrade fromt hat? iirc the alt. cd allows upgrade.
[07:14] <yopi> Hi I have a etch distro, is it the right chan?
[07:14] <tristanmike> soundray: other "burned" dvd's work
[07:14] <erUSUL> henz: and why are you trinuing to mount /dev/sda1 it is already mounted in /
[07:14] <erUSUL> ?
[07:14] <mlalkaka> Hi everyone
[07:14] <eck> rogue780|laptop: try gnome-keyring-manager
[07:14] <tristanmike> soundray: like data dvd's and such
[07:14] <Pici> yopi: Nope, you'd want a debian channel.
[07:15] <tristanmike> soundray: lemme try a "backup" dvd....
[07:15] <radar1976> Lunar_Lamp I could but only one system to upgrade, so why waste a CD
[07:15] <mwbohn> After I upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04, my the CD drive on my System76 laptop stopped working.  There is no /dev/scd0, /dev/cdrom, or /dev/hd*  Anyone have experience with this?
[07:15] <radar1976> something that I don't have alot of
[07:15] <ctothej> what are the Super_[X]  keycodes?
[07:15] <magnetron> hi mlalkaka
[07:15] <Lunar_Lamp> radar1976, use a cd-rw :-p
[07:15] <radar1976> don't have any of those
[07:15] <soundray> radar1976: sounds like you just have to be patient then
[07:15] <lnxmomo> hi everyone, i would like to know if i can disable the wireless driver that came with ubuntu and use ndiswrapper?
[07:15] <eck> ctothej: usually super is the same as the "windows" key
[07:15] <radar1976> it is running faster today tho
[07:15] <henz> erUSUL: i see the disk in nautilus as WD passport but when i clicik it it doesnt open
[07:16] <rogue780|laptop> eck, that lets me change the keys in the keyring...but I can't figure out how to change the actual keyring password
[07:16] <Agony> OK, I have a problem.
[07:16] <soundray> lnxmomo: yes, you can blacklist the default driver. Ubotu will send you a private message
[07:16] <radar1976> much faster
[07:16] <magnetron> lnxmomo: generally, ndiswrapper has less functionality
[07:16] <soundray> !blacklist > lnxmomo
[07:16] <Agony> I just upgraded to 7.04
[07:16] <kahrytan> Someone should develop Windows driver wrapper FOR ANY driver.
[07:16] <Agony> But now it refuses to boot.
[07:16] <ctothej> eck: xev reports the Super_R is pressed on one of my keyboard buttons, is there a Super_L, etc too?
[07:16] <Pici> !enter | Agony
[07:16] <ubotu> Agony: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:16] <eck> rogue780|laptop: i would delete the keyring entry from gconf then and just recreate it
[07:16] <henz> erUSUL: as before mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock
[07:16] <henz> error: could not execute pmount
[07:16] <radar1976> I was getting barely 20-30k yesterday... now getting 300k
[07:16] <eck> ctothej: it depends on your keyboard layout
[07:16] <soundray> kahrytan: no, manufacturers should open their specs so proper drivers can be written.
[07:16] <erUSUL> henz: do 'nautilus /'
[07:17] <lnxmomo> ah, thanx soundray and magnetron
[07:17] <tristanmike> soundray: ok, my "backup" dvd works, but factory DVD's don't read as inserted and, as according to the Support docs under "System", I made gxine the default DVD player and that pops up with the "backup" movie dvd, but nothing happens when I insert a factory DVD
[07:17] <Pici> Agony: Do you get an error? 'doesnt boot' is kinda vauge.
[07:17] <mlalkaka> I'm in the process of upgrading from edgy to feisty, and a Debconf screen titled "Configuring mdadm" has appeared. It's asking me to specify "MD arrays needed for the root filesystem". But I don't have any raid (MD arrays) devices on my computer. What do I enter in the text box? all or none?
[07:17] <Rage__> Hi, was just wondering if there is a way to install ubuntu with only xserver all setup and maybe gnome but not all the programs that I dont need so I can install only things I want... Is the best way to do that to in stall server edition and install xserver? TBH I dont even want gnome I use evilwm. :)
[07:17] <magnetron> kahrytan: SOMEONE should develop Linux drivers for ALL devices =)
[07:17] <eck> ctothej: in gnome you can also configure what is recognized as super with system > preferences > keyboard
[07:17] <henz> erUSUL: and?
[07:17] <kahrytan> soundray: or manufacturers just do it themselves.
[07:17] <ctothej> eck: oh, like left and right win/super keys. I got that now. Oh ok, ill check that out too.
[07:17] <DrNick1> Rage__: yep, boot from the alternate CD and install a commandline system, which is an option in the menu
[07:18] <Agony> OK, sorry. I upgraded to 7.04, but now it refuses to boot, the progress bar doesn't move at all.
[07:18] <soundray> kahrytan: no, that results in bad drivers. See fglrx and nvidia
[07:18] <kahrytan> Nvidia drivers work just fine.
[07:18] <erUSUL> henz: post the output of 'cat /proc/mounts' in a pastebin
[07:18] <Pici> Agony: If you press ctrl-alt-F1 ,  are you getting any error messages?
[07:18] <soundray> kahrytan: yeah, if you happen to have a recent card.
[07:18] <kahrytan> I got FX 5200
[07:18] <Rage__> DrNick1: What package is needed for an x-server install all working? x-windows-system was debian...?
[07:18] <aa^way> hey
[07:18] <aa^way> some deobfuscater for java in ubuntu?
[07:18] <DrNick1> Rage__: then, just install whatever you want.  I used this method to make a working system on a P166Mhz with 64Mb memory!  (but not with GNOME obviously!)
[07:18] <kahrytan> not exactly recent.
[07:19] <tristanmike> soundray, another odd thing of note is that when I shut down the computer last night I left my DVD in the drive, when I rebooted this morning, the icon on the desktop listed the media "Blank DVD" even though it was the factory movie
[07:19] <rambo3> Rage__, use meta packages
[07:19] <Agony> I'll go check, hang on a second.  Have you got a second DVD drive for testing?
[07:20] <Pici> Agony: If you remove the quiet nosplash options from your grub menu (edit by pressing 'e'), if the ctrl-alt-f1 method doesnt reveal anything.
[07:20] <henz> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/450169
[07:20] <Rage__> rambo3: which package am I looking for?
[07:20] <Penggu> hi all. is it possible to run ubuntu as a livecd, whilst using some local partitions for user data stoage and swap ?
[07:20] <Rage__> rambo3: for xserver only?
[07:20] <Valstorm2379> Im using Fdutils, can someone tell the command to FORMAT the floppy in terminal???
[07:20] <tristanmike> soundray: .....perhaps I can get one...should I just "plug and play" ?
[07:20] <eck> Penggu: yeah, just use mount and swapon
[07:20] <kahrytan> hufflalump2: It works with Beryl and Nividia drivers.
[07:20] <kahrytan> Nvidia
[07:20] <LjL> Penggu: i think swap is used automatically, if a suitable partition is found. for storage - just mount
[07:20] <rambo3> Rage__, ah ok install xserver-xorg
[07:20] <Huffalump2> kahrytan - I cannot get anything to work on FX 5600 (aside from boring nv)
[07:20] <Kragnerac> :(
[07:20] <Fishy>  Doesn't the lastest ati driver 8.36.5 work with xorg 7.2 (feisty)?
[07:21] <Penggu> eck: where would the mount point be for storage ?
[07:21] <Kragnerac> I should've got an nVidia card. Nothing seems to work with ATi. :(
[07:21] <bluefox83> has anyoneever noticed that when you run bryl and try to watch a movie, the movie is ll glitchy?
[07:21] <ogami1972> hi all- how important is udevd?
[07:21] <bluefox83> *beryl
[07:21] <Penggu> eck: i mean, is there a facility to save settings, etc?
[07:21] <LjL> Penggu: what you prefer. you might want to mount to your /home directory
[07:21] <mwbohn> Is beryl+xgl (fglrx) broken for 7.04 or do I have a configuration problem?  (It worked for me in 6.10)
[07:21] <Penggu> eck: eg if i install vmware
[07:21] <henz> erUSUL: ive read like 2 post almost identical on the internet, but with none solving, but the wierd thing is that it worked before i reinstalled
[07:21] <kahrytan> huffalump2: aren't I lucky. I got a cheap msi fx 5200 from newegg.
[07:21] <raw-meat1> thank you for that great release!
[07:21] <Rage__> rambo3: Thanks :)
[07:21] <DrNick1> bluefox83: yep i've noticed that.  i turn it off for movies :)
[07:21] <ogami1972> cause it was eating all my memory, so i killed it
[07:21] <LjL> Penggu: for saving settings, mount to /home. that will be only the user-specific settings, though
[07:21] <eck> Penggu: are you trying to do persistent live cd?
[07:21] <Adyeths> *sigh*  How do I recover from a failed attempt at upgrading to Feisty?
[07:21] <X_Force>    /msg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>register nickserv31<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:21] <Penggu> eck: i guess so
[07:21] <Fishy> bluefox83: I am going to burn my card and by a nvidia soon
[07:22] <bluefox83> DrNick1, so do i:(
[07:22] <finalbeta> bluefox83: that's because the drivers can't handle it, and because xorg is not optimised for it yet. Beryl is still a toy.
[07:22] <LjL> X_Force: ?
[07:22] <X_Force> hmm not a good idea ..
[07:22] <tristanmike> soundray: ....wait a sec....something is weird....
[07:22] <eifzon> anyone that had problem to install drivers for nvidia, geforce 7900GT? on 7.04 fiesty?
[07:22] <X_Force> sry one space to much ..
[07:22] <ikonia> eifzon: no
[07:22] <Huffalump2> kahrytan, I'd say it does sound like you are lucky.  I'm very adverse to upgrading any other machines to Feisty until this error is worked out.
[07:22] <ubuntu> so on my boot partition what should I have?
[07:22] <Phantomse> >	QUESTION:I'm trying to instal a driver for internet conection.
[07:22] <Phantomse> The modem is named Z010
[07:22] <Phantomse> drivers and instalmanual:
[07:22] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.tar.gz
[07:22] <Fishy> mwbohn: Same problem. Missing beryl_xgl.
[07:22] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.txt
[07:22] <Lord_Maynoth_42> is the restricted ATI driver the newest one?
[07:22] <ubuntu> I want the partition that the computer boots from to be different from the partition ubuntu runs on. how can I do this?
[07:22] <Kragnerac> nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX :)
[07:22] <DrNick1> bluefox83: it'll get there. but for now, its only a button to click at least :)
[07:22] <ikonia> Lord_Maynoth_42: its the latest one packaged by ubuntu
[07:22] <LjL> X_Force: i don't think that syntax makes much sense, anyway. /msg nickserv register nickname password
[07:22] <eifzon> When i try to install the driver it just being black on the screen
[07:23] <mwbohn> Fishy: Did you resolve it?
[07:23] <eck> Penggu: if you are trying to do persistent live cd there are some docs in the wiki, if you just want to use configuration settings on another partition you can mount it and chroot or point you app and the mount point to find the conf files
[07:23] <Huffalump2> eifzon, I have a different card but have seen many people with similar problems today.
[07:23] <Lord_Maynoth_42> is there a link to its version number?
[07:23] <eifzon> ok Huffalump2, what to do?
[07:23] <X_Force> thx LjL
[07:23] <eifzon> Buy a new crappy graphic card? :p
[07:23] <LjL> !register > X_Force    (X_Force, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:23] <tristanmike> soundray: ......ok, weird, now it works.....I swear, I don't smoke crack, honestly....that stuff was happening to me....dang the force is strong in this one, nice work soundray, you're god knows where, and you fixed my problem just by thinking about it, nicely done :D
[07:23] <PriceChild> Kragnerac, hey having problems with that card?
[07:23] <Adyeths> How do I recover from a failed attempt at upgrading to Feisty that stopped while in the middle of downloading files?
[07:23] <Huffalump2> eifzon, for me the solution was to change xorg.conf to be "nv" instead of "nvidia" thus using the old driers
[07:23] <Penggu> eck: excellent, thanks. i didn't know what to look for. now i see there's a lot in google
[07:23] <Huffalump2> drivers
[07:23] <eifzon> ok
[07:23] <kahrytan> huffalump2: Nvidia is very linux friendly so I'm sure it will. It's to bad livecd doesn't load the drivers at boot.
[07:24] <eifzon> ill try switch to nv
[07:24] <erUSUL> henz: ok, i have missunderstood you i thoughtr that /dev/sda was your main hard disk... so /dev/sda1 is a ext3 partition from another linux install? try this 'sudo fsck.ext3 -b 32768 -pcv /dev/sda1' to check the partition
[07:24] <Fishy> mwbohn: No. Since beryl doesn not come with beryl_xgl I can't see how it should be solved.
[07:24] <henz> erUSUL: can you come up with anythign or am i totally screwd?
[07:24] <tushar> lol
[07:24] <mwbohn> Fishy: Thanks for the info
[07:24] <Fishy> mwbohn: It may work with the open source drivers, but the performance sucks. At least for me.
[07:25] <Kragnerac> PriceChild: Yes. Everytime I try to start up any Linux distro with my x1300, it prints thousands of lines of error messages in the tty1 console when i boot up.
[07:25] <eifzon> Huffalump2, shall i reboot after this?
[07:25] <Huffalump2> eifzon, I did and all was "well" (boring but working)
[07:25] <PriceChild> Kragnerac, ah i thought you said nvidia 8800
[07:25] <Phantomse> >	QUESTION:I'm trying to instal a driver for internet conection.
[07:25] <Phantomse> The modem is named Z010
[07:25] <Phantomse> drivers and instalmanual:
[07:25] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.tar.gz
[07:25] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.txt
[07:26] <clarklinux> hi- i'm having a lot of trouble getting a wireless network pcmcia card working...can anybody help me?
[07:26] <henz> erUSUL: want it in pastebin? :)
[07:26] <Kragnerac> PriceChild: Meh, i'm considering getting a new pc with that card. :)
[07:26] <Pici> Phantomse: You still haven't asked a question.
[07:26] <kahrytan> What is pastebin?
[07:26] <Adyeths> How do I recover from a failed attempt at upgrading to Feisty that stopped while in the middle of downloading files?
[07:26] <PriceChild> Kragnerac, ah :)
[07:26] <Pici> !paste | kahrytan
[07:26] <ubotu> kahrytan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:26] <PriceChild> Adyeths, have you tried to open the update manager again?
[07:26] <DrNick1> laters all
[07:26] <underwatercow> has anyone successfully used the vmware server on 7.04?
[07:26] <kahrytan> I hate bots.
[07:26] <sogen> Hi can someone help me with Americas army i have updated system and i have that error when im runing AA WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[07:27] <aa^way> what is this "jad: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:27] <aa^way> "
[07:27] <erUSUL> henz: no, just run the program it will try to check and fix, if possible, the filesystem
[07:27] <eck> aa^way: it means the program you are using tried to load a library (or a version of a library) that you don't have installed
[07:27] <Penggu> ppl, for 7.xx is it casper-cow or casper-rw ?
[07:27] <sogen> can someone help me with Americas army i have updated system and i have that error when im runing AA WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[07:27] <Adyeths> I can open the update manager. I was, however, attempting to update from the alternate install cd, which now doesn't seem to function.
[07:27] <andy_> what bittorrent client would you guys use?
[07:27] <acidtabs> Is there streamTurner in festiy just like the one that was for edgy
[07:27] <erUSUL> !repeat | sogen
[07:27] <ubotu> sogen: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:28] <sogen> can someone help me with Americas army i have updated system and i have that error when im runing AA WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[07:28] <ToXedVirus> andy_, utorrent
[07:28] <Kragnerac> !ati
[07:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:28] <henz> erUSUL: didnt work
[07:28] <andy_> ToXedVirus, is it available for linux'
[07:28] <erUSUL> sogen: it is a Warning not an error... AA is using an API that may be no present in the future
[07:28] <Adyeths> My goal was to upgrade from the cd. THat apparently doesn't work though. it wants to download everything off the net and ignore whats on the cd.
[07:28] <erUSUL> henz: error msg?
[07:28] <sogen> erUSUL: what that mean ?
[07:28] <ToXedVirus> only for windows, but you run windows software using wine
[07:28] <andy_> ah wine
[07:28] <Rage__> Is there a way to try disabling ACPI and APM from the live boot CD?
[07:29] <Bo7a> does anyone happen to know the best workaround for ati slapping older card owners in the face? rather than downgrade back to edgy i was wondering if it is at all possible to just downgrade X to 7.1 to make the 8.28 drivers which still have support for my card a possibility
[07:29] <Adyeths> and attempting to upgrade over the net at this time isn't possible. the servers are overloaded.
[07:29] <QPS_Dutch> How do I determine which version of Ubuntu I am running?
[07:29] <Bo7a> ^long possibly badly worded question
[07:29] <eck> andy_: rtorrent is good, if you are into the curses thing
[07:29] <Rage__> My touch pad does not work with one of them.
[07:29] <henz> erUSUL:
[07:29] <clarklinux> hello: could someone please read this exerpt from dmesg and tell me why my pcmcia wireless networking card isn't working?
[07:29] <andy_> eck: I'm more into gnome apps actually ;)
[07:29] <clarklinux> the url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16601/
[07:29] <soundray> QPS_Dutch: cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:29] <rambo3> QPS_Dutch, cat /etc/issue
[07:29] <henz> http://pastebin.ca/450179
[07:29] <Adyeths> so... I"m stuck with having a broken system unless I can figure out how to fix what this cdromupgrade thing did.
[07:29] <underwatercow> anyone get vmware server working on 7.04?
[07:29] <i-nZ> !smart
[07:29] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[07:29] <deathplanter> hi guys, since feisy my wlan isn't working cause one kernel module isn't loaded automatically and i have to do it manually. how to set up an automatic module loading?
[07:30] <erUSUL> sogen: AA is using some opengl function that can change in the future and therefore AA may not work as expected in the future
[07:30] <QPS_Dutch> THANK YOU!
[07:30] <soundray> deathplanter: add the module name to /etc/modules on a line of its own
[07:30] <ubuntu> Hmmm... how do I install grub?
[07:30] <deathplanter> soundray: thanks a bunch.
[07:30] <eck> andy_: i haven't tried this, but it is a gnome BT application http://deluge-torrent.org/
[07:30] <PriceChild> atomiku, its installed as part of the instillation
[07:30] <clarklinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16601/ can someone tell me what this means regarding my pcmcia card?
[07:30] <erUSUL> henz: try 'sudo fsck.ext3 -pcv /dev/sda1'
[07:30] <Pici> ubotu: `grub-install /dev/devicename`
[07:30] <sogen> erUSUL: then can i degrade ubuntu to last version ?
[07:30] <Flannel> !grub | atomiku, first link
[07:30] <ubotu> atomiku, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:31] <atomiku> PriceChild: well mine is gone
[07:31] <Caramba_> hiya folks. How should I go about to automount my eternal usb-drive under ubuntu...*running in console mode*
[07:31] <nozey> anyone using feisty + Intel Corporation 82551QM Ethernet Controller network card?
[07:31] <atomiku> theres nothing to recover
[07:31] <erUSUL> sogen: but AA fails to run?
[07:31] <Caramba_> eternal->external
[07:31] <r3tex> does 7.04 have upstart?
[07:31] <PriceChild> !fixgrub > atomiku
[07:31] <PriceChild> r3tex, yes, but still using init scripts
[07:31] <sogen> erUSUL: there is shown AA window and i have that error in terminal
[07:31] <erUSUL> sogen: normally a warning is harmless
[07:31] <sogen> erUSUL: and then it stops
[07:32] <sogen> erUSUL: it just closing
[07:32] <r3tex> PriceChild: is there a speed difference in your opinion?
[07:32] <PriceChild> r3tex, yes
[07:32] <Alan> does anybody here have vmware workstation successfully installed under Feisty?  For some reason it doesn't like the linux headers... "The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.20-15-generic)."
[07:32] <burzum> ive got 2 screens running using nvidias twinview, but how can i define my primary display?
[07:32] <s0nix> Quelqu'un utilise wine ici?  je l'ai installer... mais j'arrete pas a executerr un simple setup.exe
[07:32] <henz> erUSUL: this time no error msg no nothing, but it doesnt work, you think i need a reebot or something?
[07:32] <rogue780|laptop> ubuntu's not letting me eject a CD because it says that an application is preventing me from ejecting it...how do I find out what application is using it?  the only application I have open is xchat...
[07:32] <Pici> !fr | s0nix
[07:32] <ubotu> s0nix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:32] <magnetron> !fr > s0nix
[07:32] <andy_> eck, ok, I gonna test deluge first :)
[07:32] <lnxmomo> hi, can anyone give me a link to download wicd network manager
[07:33] <Rage__> rogue780|laptop: Is it mounted?
[07:33] <Argonak> Anyone have some more ideas on proxy issues with apt-get? I have the proxy in apt.conf and bash.bashrc but stil cant connect.
[07:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> anyone here know how to determine what version of the ATI driver fiesty has atm?
[07:33] <clarklinux> my sonnet aria extreme wireless network pcmcia card is not working with my g3 powerbook with xubuntu edgy...can someone help me or at lest just read what i get from dmesg to try to give me some insight? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16601/
[07:33] <rogue780|laptop> Rage__, it automatically mounted
[07:33] <eck> andy_: let me know how it goes, trying it out is on my to do list
[07:33] <Bo7a> feisty ships with 8.35 ati drivers
[07:33] <Bo7a> does anyone happen to know the best workaround for ati slapping older card owners in the face? rather than downgrade back to edgy i was wondering if it is at all possible to just downgrade X to 7.1 to make the 8.28 drivers which still have support for my card a possibility
[07:33] <Phantomse> I'm a beginner in Linux and don't get along with the driverinstal.
[07:33] <Phantomse> I replaced the files from etc\ppp with linux-evdo.tar.gz after i extracted them.
[07:33] <rogue780|laptop> Rage__, I've ejected cdroms that have been automatically mounted before...
[07:33] <Phantomse> The instruction says "To bring the PPP connection up:
[07:33] <Phantomse> go to /etc/ppp folder and run
[07:33] <Phantomse> #./dialevdo
[07:33] <Phantomse> How doo i do that?
[07:33] <erUSUL> henz: no error msg? and the disk is inactive?
[07:33] <Phantomse> The modem is named Z010
[07:33] <Phantomse> drivers and instalmanual:
[07:33] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.tar.gz
[07:33] <Phantomse> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.txt
[07:33] <Rage__> rogue780|laptop: terminal -> umount <moun directory>    try that.
[07:34] <magnetron> Argonak: using Synaptic for configure is enough, and more secure
[07:34] <rogue780|laptop> Rage__, "umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy"
[07:34] <kahrytan> Phantomse: do you like repeating yourself?
[07:34] <cables> Does anyone know where to put guifications themes?
[07:34] <henz> erUSUL: no error msg terminal went commandless and disk still doesnt work
[07:34] <Rage__> rogue780|laptop: try with -f you need to sudo
[07:34] <magnetron> !enter > Phantomse
[07:34] <Alan> oh lovely..... vmware drivers not compatible with 2.6.20? :(
[07:35] <clarklinux> !patience
[07:35] <joshjosh> tokyoahead, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto came across this just now if you haven't fixed your resolution issue
[07:35] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:35] <rogue780|laptop> Rage__, "sudo umount -f /dev/cdrom" "umount2: Device or resource busy" "umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy"
[07:35] <Draconicus> Do you people realize that 80% of your packaged games don't create their own launchers when installed?
[07:36] <erUSUL> henz: fscking a disk can take a long time just wait untill the command returns
[07:36] <Phantomse> By presing enter or double clicking it opens the dialevdo.sh in text edit
[07:36] <PriceChild> Draconicus, please file bugs on launchpad if they don't create menu items
[07:36] <magnetron> !patience > Draconius
[07:36] <shwag> anyone know why im getting    Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[07:36] <soundray> Draconicus: sounds like you think you're talking to developers here.
[07:36] <PriceChild> Draconicus, and I'd say 80% is a very large overestimate
[07:36] <PriceChild> shwag, /topic
[07:36] <JoeyC89> hi, i have just installed fiest adn installed the propritary ati drivers but my comp wont' boot the splash sceen. anyone know wha i can do about it
[07:36] <kmitch87> shwag: the mirrors are overloaded right now
[07:36] <erUSUL> henz: fsck is like the windows scandisk
[07:36] <Rage__> rogue780|laptop: Not sure after that dude... You could try "lsof | grep /dev/cdrom" That will list open files on the cd and you might be able to tell what is playing with it.
[07:36] <magnetron> !mirrors > shwag
[07:36] <henz> erUSUL: aha ok
[07:36] <danshtr> is there a way to refresh/rescan the wireless networks list?
[07:36] <rogue780|laptop> Rage__, thanks man
[07:37] <Adyeths> How do I recover from a failed attempt at upgrading to Feisty that stopped while in the middle of downloading files?
[07:37] <Bo7a> does anyone happen to know the best workaround for older ati cards under feisty? rather than downgrade back to edgy i was wondering if it is at all possible to just downgrade X to 7.1 to make the 8.28 drivers which still have support for my card a possibility. apologies for repeat posting, im not doing it to garner attention just to restate for when osmeone has time.
[07:37] <Rage__> rogue780|laptop: np :)
[07:37] <PriceChild> Adyeths, have you tried running the upgrade again?
[07:37] <niriven> So i noticed there is a 'gusty' dist on the ubuntu ftp site, anyone run it yet? I know its not really, well, stable, though, just curious about anyones thoughts on it.
[07:37] <kahrytan> magnetron: whats the !mirrors say?
[07:37] <shwag> magnetron: im not trying to get the cd. im trying to apt-get
[07:37] <kneeki> GRRR!!!! I hate windows SO much!
[07:37] <henz> erUSUL: hanvet been linuxing for a long time almost 3 days now :)
[07:37] <Rage__> Bo7a: What cards are not supported? That might be a show stopper for me :?
[07:37] <PriceChild> niriven, DON'T run gutsy yet... it will break
[07:37] <soundray> Adyeths: is your system bootable now?
[07:37] <eck> danshtr: from the command line you would do something like: iwlist eth1 scanning
[07:37] <magnetron> Bo7a: http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/
[07:37] <shwag> magnetron: and wouldnt that be host not reponding...not unresolvable.
[07:37] <Adyeths> I have no idea if its bootable. I haven't tried to reboot.
[07:37] <[acid] Neatchee> so, now that things have calmed down a bit, i'll ask my silly question again... Anyone have any good alternative startup sounds that they prefer?  I can't stand the native one :(
[07:37] <kahrytan> kneeki: I love windows so much!
[07:38] <Bo7a> Rage__, ati pulled support for the 9250 and older cards in the 8.35 drivers
[07:38] <kneeki> kahrytan: lies -_-
[07:38] <almimoni> how can I add 1280*800 resolution?
[07:38] <soundray> Adyeths: what's the problem then?
[07:38] <Adyeths> as far as I know all that happened was it was downloading stuff.
[07:38] <soundray> Adyeths: and then?
[07:38] <Rage__> Bo7a: Ok, not prob for me then :) sorry for you though.
[07:38] <kahrytan> kneeki: you needed a laugh.
[07:38] <Adyeths> it stopped in the middle of the process, it says I have a ton of updates to install.
[07:38] <Bo7a> and with 8.28 not supporting xorg 7.2 this is an issue :p
[07:38] <niriven> PriceChild: Nothing that will severely screw up my pc (at least temporarly until updates) right?
[07:38] <kneeki> kahrytan: lol
[07:38] <magnetron> shwag: hmm some1 else was talking about DNS problems some hour ago
[07:38] <Adyeths> I can't rerun the cdromupgrade from the alternate install cd
[07:38] <rogue780|laptop> almimoni, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and add it in the screen section
[07:38] <PriceChild> !fixres > almimoni
[07:38] <Draconicus> soundray: Erk... Yeah. I know I shouldn't complain to you, but who else will listen? Where else can I put the most important feedback and have it remotely acknowledged? I'm trying to set up a machine for a client and I'm finding that I'll have to waste a LOT of time making my own launchers and menu items.
[07:38] <Argonak> magnetron: Seems to be working now. May have been a timeout thing before as I have not changed anything. Thanks.
[07:38] <danshtr> eck thanks, is the a way to do it usning gui? each time i resume from suspend i cant find my network
[07:38] <[acid] Neatchee> so much for calmed down :(
[07:38] <soundray> Adyeths: what's "it"? update-manager?
[07:38] <erUSUL> henz: today is a busy day here with the feisty release... i'm waiting a few days for things to settle down and then i will upgrade too... XD
[07:38] <kahrytan> kneeki: I tolerate it for games and tv recording.
[07:39] <PriceChild> niriven, it won't let you update further. The toolchain is not ready. DON'T upgrade
[07:39] <fluid> any of you ever tweak a synaptics touchpad at all? seems like i have to press awfully hard after enabling shmconfig...always had this problem :(
[07:39] <boguh> hi,how to start the wizard to install codecs for mp3 etc?
[07:39] <soundray> Draconicus: file a bug and mark it as wishlist
[07:39] <soundray> !bugs > Draconicus
[07:39] <jrib> boguh: are you using feisty?
[07:39] <kneeki> kahrytan: That's all I'm using it for also. I really wish linux was better for gaming
[07:39] <eck> danshtr: is this with network manager? i would try stopping it and restarting it
[07:39] <Adyeths> "it" is the cdromupgrade program on the alternate install cd. thats what stopped.
[07:39] <niriven> pricechild: :)
[07:39] <boguh> jrib yes
[07:39] <jrib> boguh: just double click on an mp3
[07:39] <kahrytan> kneeki: Or Vmware was improved for gaming.
[07:39] <Adyeths> and it will not restart because of whatever changes were made when it first started the upgrade process.
[07:39] <Draconicus> soundray: I know, I know. I'm surprised that you don't remember me by now. I'm always in here. :P
[07:39] <boguh> jrib thx
[07:40] <fuffalo-> (evolution question) everytime i mark something as junk it goes to the junk folder, but when i re-open evolution it's back in my inbox..what am i doing wrong? any ideas?  (i'm connecting to an exchange server)
[07:40] <soundray> Draconicus: if you knew, then why did you ask?
[07:40] <kneeki> kahrytan: *nod*
[07:40] <Bo7a> does anyone happen to know the best workaround for older ati cards under feisty? rather than downgrade back to edgy i was wondering if it is at all possible to just downgrade X to 7.1 to make the 8.28 drivers which still have support for my card a possibility. apologies for repeat posting, im not doing it to garner attention just to restate for when someone has time.
[07:40] <ikonia> Bo7a:you don't have to downgrade older cards should be supported too
[07:40] <Bo7a> nope
[07:41] <Bo7a> ati pulled support for 9250 and older cards in 8.35 drivers
[07:41] <kahrytan> kneeki: VMWare needs better resource management and 3d acceleration.
[07:41] <henz> erUSUL: hehe i hear you, but ill prolly wait a long time, havent even considering changing untill i learn some more :P
[07:41] <Bo7a> so no 3-d for me unlessi go back to .28
[07:41] <magnetron> boguh : dblclick a mp3 or install package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:41] <Artemis3> Bo7a, forget 3d use vesa mode :P
[07:41] <eck> fuffalo-: i _think_ it depends what mailbox system you are using, e.g. if you are using imap it may be trying to move it into a junk folder on the imap account
[07:41] <ikonia> Bo7a: is there no legacy package like for nvidia in fesity ?
[07:41] <soundray> Adyeths: I would try booting the system.  Is there a way to find your horizsync and vertrefresh other than the back of your monitor or the HW manual?
[07:41] <ikonia> lasse: ddcprobe may detect it ok
[07:41] <Artemis3> if it only they would release the specs of the ati cards... why is amd hesitating?
[07:41] <Bo7a> its an ati card not nvidia ikonia. the issue here is 8.28 drivers dont work wtioh xorg 7.2 and 8.35 drivers dont work with the older c ards
[07:42] <lasse> ikonia, thanks man
[07:42] <Scombr0`> hi all
[07:42] <soundray> POVaddct: it does, but don't tell them that. Be polite and tell them that you are disenchanted with their level of support for Linux.
[07:42] <Phantomse> Could somebody at least tel me if the driver works on feisty?
[07:42] <Bo7a> im wondering if downgrading to xorg 7.1 will help or should i just go back to edgy
[07:42] <LjL> lasse: no, although some monitors can send that information automatically. but then, if they do, your very dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will use that information when instructed to "auto-detect" the monitor
[07:42] <Scombr0`> i wanted to know how do I get my chipset information?
[07:42] <ikonia> Bo7a: I know its ati not nvidia, hence why I said is there not a legacy package LIKE the nvidia legacy package in fesity
[07:42] <kahrytan> kneeki: what  games you play?
[07:42] <mrec> POVaddct: ATI support will improve in future
[07:42] <maccam94> Scombr0`, lspci
[07:42] <LjL> !downgrade | Bo7a
[07:42] <ubotu> Bo7a: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[07:42] <fluid> im hoping so since they are AMD now...
[07:42] <Scombr0`> thank you maccam94
[07:42] <soundray> mrec: have you got a source reference for that information?
[07:42] <maccam94> np
[07:42] <marcom> greetings from da berlin release-party of feisty !
[07:42] <POVaddct> mrec: i hope so
[07:43] <magnetron> greetings marcom
[07:43] <Artemis3> well sure the newer multicore amd/ati cpus will have documented instructions, but the older radeon?
[07:43] <Bo7a> hehe LjL, thanks but i had i mind just installing edgy from scratch. id prefer not to do this. anyone know o f a reason not to go back to xorg 7.1 in feisty to give me the abvility to use the drivers that were around before ati forsook me
[07:43] <mrec> soundray: I work at AMD, naturally linux is growing and it's seen at ATI/AMD
[07:43] <fluid> but im up and running 7.04, ati fglrx, beryl, and xgl...only 1 tiny issue i have and all it does is lower framerate in xgl a tiny bit.
[07:43] <soundray> mrec: I was hoping that the acquisition would improve things, but no sign of it yet.
[07:44] <LjL> Bo7a: well, *how* do you intend to go back? a reason is, broken dependencies
[07:44] <ikonia> Bo7a: I suspect many things are linked against the current xorg in fesity
[07:44] <mrec> soundray: things take time
[07:44] <Artemis3> mrec, the problem is with the legacy hardware, if its not worth to maintain it, why not just document it so the community can maintain it?
[07:44] <matkix0s> How do you enable dual head? I have an nvidia 6200 and installed the restricted driver. I just upgraded and wish to re-ebable my "Twinview" Or dual head.
[07:44] <matkix0s> !dualhead
[07:44] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:44] <Bo7a> yeah thats what i thought, thanks ikonia, guess its back to edgy until ati decided to do something aboutt his
[07:44] <POVaddct> soundray: that's exactly what i thought. but ati now owned by amd seemingly changed nothing.
[07:44] <deathplanter> my wireless settings are wrong and i'd like to change them. is there a fancy file that i should edit? i'm using server edition
[07:44] <boguh> how can i change a label of an ext3 partiton?
[07:44] <ikonia> deathplanter: a wirless card on a server ?
[07:44] <lasse> LjL, ok because ive got a laptop with ATI on it, and I cant get neither fglrx to work (just freezes, no error in dmesg /var/log/messages or /var/log/Xorg.0.log), and the "ati" driver gives me no more than a resolution of 1024x768. This worked on edgy. Can't seem to find the problem
[07:44] <fluid> seemingly changed nothing yet. they havent owned ati for that long...
[07:45] <fluid> and fixing what exists might be more of a pain than just starting from scratch.
[07:45] <mrec> Artemis3: I cannot say more about that since I don't have accurate information about it either (and I'm not allowed to write everything actually) but things will improve luckily
[07:45] <soundray> matkix0s: there are instructions in the readme under /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx
[07:45] <deathplanter> ikonia: i know it sounds weird. anyways, what file to edit?
[07:45] <LjL> boguh: man e2label
[07:45] <bakerconspiracy> yay!, new operating system!
[07:45] <Bo7a> lasse, which card? new ati drivers in feisty do not support the older radeons
[07:45] <fluid> ATI has always had poopy software no matter what platform you use it on
[07:45] <mrec> if someone has bugreports he can forward them to me here as well
[07:45] <ikonia> deathplanter: depends what settings are wrong
[07:45] <Bo7a> ie:9250 and older
[07:45] <Pici> !offtopic
[07:45] <surviver> anyone that know how to work with wine??
[07:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:45] <deathplanter> ikonia: essid
[07:45] <lasse> Bo7a, x700
[07:45] <marcom> i love ubuntu, put enough grains on the enter-button and let a chicken stay next to it :-)
[07:45] <i-nZ> Why isn't there Open In Terminal in nautilus ??
[07:45] <fuzzy_logic> hi people.. how can i exit xorg??
[07:45] <deathplanter> surviver: not really a hard thing to do.just wine <.exe file> ;)
[07:45] <soundray> mrec: can I pm you?
[07:45] <LjL> lasse, dunno, have you tried what's suggested in !fixres?
[07:45] <mrec> (but I'm no official supporter actually, I'm moreover doing this since I'm interested in it)
[07:45] <Artemis3> mrec, i know, but there have been interviews in the inquirer with amd ppl talking about the future
[07:45] <jrib> i-nZ: install the nautilus-open-terminal package
[07:45] <POVaddct> Bo7a: wait, isn't the 9250 supported by the open source radeon driver too?
[07:45] <mrec> soundray: sure
[07:46] <PriceChild> fuzzy_logic, ctrl+alt+f1, log in and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:46] <deathplanter> ikonia: essid's wrong
[07:46] <lasse> fuzzy_logic, enter sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    in a terminal
[07:46] <Zamber> hi there folks ;)
[07:46] <POVaddct> Bo7a: (including 3d)
[07:46] <mrec> Artemis3: marketing...
[07:46] <fluid> im running ati proprietary drivers on a xpress 200m :D
[07:46] <ikonia> deathplanter: you can change it with iwconfig
[07:46] <lasse> LjL, no
[07:46] <fuzzy_logic> PrinceChild+lasse: thanks
[07:46] <lasse> !fixres > lasse
[07:46] <deathplanter> ikonia: yeah,but i want it be set properly every bootup.
[07:46] <PriceChild> fuzzy_logic, no u ;)
[07:46] <surviver> deathplanter, nono it just i need to find the file where i can change the size of it (screenresolution) and suche stuff like sound
[07:46] <babo> quick boomark search, hit home to hide. Die firefox, die ... !!!!
[07:46] <henz> erUSUL: do i really have to have this kind of patience? :D
[07:46] <Bo7a> POVaddct, not that i can tell... u mean tha actual 'radeon' driver? or aiglx?
[07:46] <jrib> babo: what!?
[07:46] <Artemis3> mrec, just make sure ppl inside know that people is getting annoyed, and do something about it, release specs and kill nvidia with the same punch
[07:46] <Alan> does anybody here have vmware workstation successfully installed under Feisty?  For some reason it doesn't like the linux headers... "The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.20-15-generic)."
[07:46] <POVaddct> Bo7a: the 'radeon' driver
[07:47] <deathplanter> surviver: sorry then, no idea. i'd just look in ~/.wine/
[07:47] <Zamber> can anyone tell me how to ged rid of packages what get on the autoremove list after uninstalling the ubuntu-desktop metapackage? Coz I's makeing me crazy!
[07:47] <Bo7a> no 3d accel for dri
[07:47] <monacaxxx> re
[07:47] <babo> jrib: boomark search is modal and it won't disappear .... in firefox ...
[07:47] <fluid> aiglx gave me nothing but 2d acceleration...
[07:47] <erUSUL> henz: what is the size of the disk/partition?
[07:47] <Phantomse> Could somebody please help me install a modem driver in feisty.
[07:47] <ikonia> deathplanter: /etc/interfaces
[07:47] <monacaxxx> how do I install the flash player?
[07:47] <Bo7a> which puts me back to booting windows to game, which is far too yucky for me
[07:47] <surviver> deathplanter, np i search some more ;)
[07:47] <monacaxxx> do I need to add a new repository?
[07:47] <bakerconspiracy> does anyone know if they upgraded firefox in 7.04?
[07:47] <tristanmike> !flash | monacaxxx
[07:47] <LjL> Zamber: you just want to get rid of the *message*, not the actual packages, right?
[07:47] <ubotu> monacaxxx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:47] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:47] <deathplanter> ikonia: cat: /etc/interfaces: No such file or directory
[07:47] <hmpedersen> Can anyone help me get feisty to communicate with my file server?
[07:47] <fluid> Bo7a: you dont like wintendo? hehe
[07:47] <Bo7a> hehe
[07:47] <babo> jrib: it's basically hijacked my browser... how frustrating ...
[07:47] <sakabatou> !sound
[07:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:47] <Agony> OK, so I upgraded to 7.04, but it now refuses to boot.  How should I go about to automount my external usb-drive under ubuntu...*running in console mode*
[07:48] <Bo7a> well considering the newest cedega engine finally made me able to completely delet my windows partitions 24 hours b4 feisty was introduced, this angers me a bit. at ATI not ubuntu of course
[07:48] <tristanmike> monacaxxx: you should just need to install the "flashplugin-nonfree" package
[07:48] <henz> erUSUL:  but i havent filled it with anything more then updates and some themes for beryl :P
[07:48] <soundray> mrec: I'm not getting through.  Maybe i should praise intel 3d hardware too ;)
[07:48] <bakerconspiracy> you need to edit your /ect/fstab file
[07:48] <fbarcenas> I can't use desktop effects. Its says the composite extension is not available. How can I fix this, and what does the darn thing do?
[07:48] <babo> jrib: hmm ... it seems to work fine the second time around ...
[07:48] <ikonia> deathplanter: if you edit that file - yes
[07:48] <mrec> soundray: you have to be registered :-) not I, but I am yes
[07:49] <bakerconspiracy> /etc/fstab
[07:49] <sogen> erUSUL: have any ide how i can run AA on my ubuntu ?
[07:49] <ppt> I installed OpenSSH and I want change some text, which displayed after the succesfull login from another PC. In which file can I change it? Thx :)
[07:49] <monacaxxx> tristanmike, I can't find it in the package manager
[07:49] <ProN00b> lol, hi LjL !
[07:49] <Penggu> eck: feisty's persistent mode is broken i think. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/84591
[07:49] <deathplanter> ikonia: okay,thanks. i'll let you know if it worked
[07:49] <Zamber> LjL I want to leave the message, if there are unneeded packages (i. e. after deleting kubuntu-desktop witch I don't want) it would be grat to have them on the list but I want to leave the ubuntu-desktop dependencies
[07:49] <Bo7a> so most of us are in agreement then? the only fix at the moment for older ati cards is to go back to edgy?
[07:49] <LjL> ProN00b, you've been warned, kicked etc enough times i think... don't force me to make it a ban.
[07:49] <Caramba_> baker...what should I put in it? I want the drive to mount to a specific point in /media when I plug it in
[07:49] <LjL> Zamber: type  sudo apt-get install every-single-one-of-the-listed-packages , that should convince APT that those packages were actually intended to stay installed
[07:50] <monacaxxx> tristanmike, sorry my fault
[07:50] <monacaxxx> it's there
[07:50] <Zamber> LjL ok - trying
[07:50] <Caramba_> I've fied the point according to http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/06/how-to-always-mount-removable-drives-in-the-same-place-ubuntu-6061-610/
[07:50] <tristanmike> monacaxxx: no worries, that's why we're all here, to help and learn :D
[07:50] <Caramba_> but the automount is still lacking
[07:50] <kahrytan> What is the market share of Linux?
[07:50] <eck> Penggu: hmmm, i guess not
[07:50] <kahrytan> desktop market share
[07:51] <velko> kahrytan: who cares?
[07:51] <LjL> !offtopic | kahrytan
[07:51] <jrib> ppt: /etc/motd
[07:51] <ubotu> kahrytan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:51] <tristanmike> !offtopic | kahrytan
[07:51] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know whats the best way to get realplayer installed? i need something for playing music, but amarok and helix player wont let me play .mp3 files.
[07:51] <Pici> !mp3 | Tarkus
[07:51] <ubotu> Tarkus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:51] <yasser> jigdo is asking me for a url to download rest of stuff....what should i give??
[07:51] <Penggu> may be i should be less stingy and give it some hard drive space *grin*
[07:51] <Agony> So, does anyone have any idea what to do when 7.04 refuses to boot?
[07:51] <PriceChild> Agony, what does it say?
[07:51] <andy_> when I login into gnome, it detects automagically my firewire harddisk. Where can I set the mount options for that drive? I can't find it in the fstab.
[07:51] <ppt> jrib thank you ;)
[07:51] <PriceChild> Agony, what errors?
[07:51] <Pici> Tarkus: mp3 support is not enabled by default due to licensing issues, see ubotu's message above.
[07:51] <ikonia> Agony: define refuses to boot
[07:51] <Agony> How do I get a Pastebin?
[07:51] <LjL> !pastebin > Agony    (Agony, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:51] <PriceChild> !paste > Agony
[07:52] <Tarkus> Pici: k, thanks
[07:52] <Agony> Thanks
[07:52] <shwag> so now that feisty isnt frozen anymore, are they going to push django up to .96 ?
[07:52] <erUSUL> sogen: no, sorry you may have more luck in a AA specific forum/irc channel
[07:52] <jenda> Have the try-out windows apps disappeared from the CD? Could someone try them out?
[07:52] <PriceChild> shwag, feisty is frozen
[07:52] <LjL> shwag: hm? feisty is more frozen than ever... it's released
[07:52] <PriceChild> shwag, current developer focus is  now on gutsy
[07:52] <shwag> PriceChild: isnt there updates though still ?
[07:53] <PriceChild> shwag, only for "critical bug fixes and security updates"
[07:53] <LjL> shwag: no. only security fixes and fixes to very very important bugs - and, optionally, the backports
[07:53] <LjL> !backports > shwag    (shwag, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:53] <shingoki> Do the "desktop effects" include drop shadows on windows?
[07:53] <shwag> so maybe it will make it into backports ?
[07:53] <PriceChild> shingoki, that is possible, though not default
[07:53] <LjL> shwag: it has to make it into Gutsy first
[07:53] <shwag> okay, glad i understand now.
[07:53] <deathplanter> ikonia: you're my personal god for the next ten years. plus, you've got 50% free for next ten years of subscription.
[07:53] <shingoki> PriceChild: drop shadows always seemed like the main reason for the whole thing :)
[07:54] <deathplanter> ikonia: WORKED! ;D
[07:54] <boubbin> how to setup a ftp-server ?
[07:54] <ikonia> deathplanter: don't worry about it. Glad your working
[07:54] <PriceChild> shingoki, the option will be in gconf-editor somewhere "apps > compiz" afaik
[07:54] <boubbin> !ftp
[07:54] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[07:54] <Bo7a> does anyone happen to know the best steps to take for older ati cards under feisty.(xorg 7.2 requires ati 8.35 drivers,older cards require 8.28 drivers) just fresh-install of edgy until ati smartens up?)
[07:54] <boubbin> !ftp-server
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftp-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <LjL> !ftpd > boubbin    (boubbin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:54] <shingoki> PriceChild: what happens on kubuntu?
[07:54] <boubbin> ok
[07:54] <PriceChild> shingoki, don't know
[07:54] <ikonia> Bo7a: I thought we'd discovered they are not supported
[07:54] <ircusr> hi all
[07:54] <shingoki> Does kubuntu have desktop effects?
[07:54] <LjL> shingoki: no
[07:55] <Bo7a> well the whole cathedral and bazaar thing instille dmin me that one or two opinions are not usually enough
[07:55] <PriceChild> shingoki, not by default afaik but you can install them
[07:55] <i-nZ> What is rcxdm restart in ubuntu ?
[07:55] <eck> shwag: if you prefix it away from the apt installted version, you should be able to install the upstream release and if it doesn't work out you can remove it and still have the old (apt) install
[07:55] <Bo7a> i KNOW the cards are not supported by ati
[07:55] <ctothej> whats the best way to map a keyboard shortcut combo to an application?
[07:55] <RedRose> Does anyone know if there is a program that will show me the management of space within my dir's?
[07:55] <Zamber> LjL thanks :D you're a genius ^^
[07:55] <Bo7a> imhoping someone will post an idea
[07:55] <J-_> Is there any software that you can use a frontend only? So if a server has only a backend (cli) the live CD can be put in the drive, and used with as a gui implimenting change on that server or machine?
[07:55] <ctothej> or script
[07:55] <eck> RedRose: baobab
[07:55] <riesseg_> hello
[07:55] <andy_> where can I find the mount options for the automatically mounted drives in gnome?
[07:55] <ikonia> Bo7a: so whats the question then, if they are not supported, your out of luck
[07:55] <LjL> RedRose: try Baobab, it's installed by default
[07:55] <ra21vi> hi
[07:55] <riesseg_> i need help :(
[07:55] <shwag> eck: yah, thats what I have on my LTS install.  i guess i was just figuring since feisty is brand new... but anyway.
[07:55] <riesseg_> i can't download package from ubuntu's server...
[07:55] <eck> andy_: just run the 'mount' command by itself
[07:55] <yasser> why does ubuntu not have the special HP printer device manager while kubuntu has it??
[07:56] <riesseg_> it's broke?
[07:56] <PriceChild> riesseg_, /topic
[07:56] <atomiku> Im having a little trouble, I want my 4gig partition to be the partition the computer boots from, and another partition with ubuntu on it. how can I do this?
[07:56] <ra21vi> is there any way to install/upgrade to Feisty, using just Disk Images (iso downloaed *image*) from Edgy
[07:56] <Bo7a> ikonia, please keep your snark to yourself. i was asking a question aboute 'where to go from here' not for an explanation of a problem i understand
[07:56] <shingoki> If I install kde on ubuntu, do I get desktop effects?
[07:56] <soundray> J-_: yes. You can connect to the server from the graphical machine with 'ssh -X server' and have all X programs redirected their output to your local screen.
[07:56] <shingoki> I really don't like gnome
[07:56] <LjL> ra21vi: if you use the *Alternate* ISO images, yes
[07:56] <LjL> !alternate > ra21vi    (ra21vi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:56] <LjL> !upgrade > ra21vi    (ra21vi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:56] <ikonia> Bo7a: I'm not being Snakry (??) if the card isn't supported there is nothing you can do ???
[07:56] <PriceChild> shingoki, yes if you have the  "desktop-effects" package installed
[07:56] <Bo7a> im afriad you are on the wrong network for telling ppl 'there is nothing you can do'
[07:57] <Bo7a> that answer is usally incorrect
[07:57] <riesseg_> whaaoo... feisty dawn is out... nooooooooooooooooooooo !
[07:57] <ha> shingoki: have a look at www.beryl-project.org
[07:57] <yasser> why does ubuntu not have the special HP printer device manager while kubuntu has it??
[07:57] <ircusr> good question
[07:57] <J-_> soundray: cool, pretty interesting.
[07:57] <shwag> LjL: how can I check what version of django is currently in gutsy ?
[07:57] <ikonia> Bo7a: ???? what are you talking about. The card is not supported and not working. If you don't want to wait for ati to fix something - then your only other option is to go back to edgy as you said yourself - so there is nothing you can do
[07:57] <ctothej> fiesty is up and running on my laptop. all is well so far! hope the battery life is good.
[07:57] <haffe> !desktop-effects
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop-effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <ctothej> tablet even
[07:57] <shingoki> PriceChild: ah right I'll give that a go. I'm never sure whether kubuntu is better than ubuntu + kde, I've been running edgy with ubuntu+kde and it seems to have less issues than kubuntu does, which is weird
[07:57] <LjL> shwag: gutsy doesn't exist yet. there's currently no version of anything
[07:57] <riesseg_> grrr ctothej
[07:57] <J-_> soundray: thought I was onto something new  and cool =X lol
[07:58] <ctothej> riesseg_: whats that about?
[07:58] <ircusr> i dont like kde
[07:58] <Bo7a> ok so that make two opinions ikonia, yours, and mine. and as i said. that is hartdly enought. just ignore my posts if you have nothing to add
[07:58] <riesseg_> i want it, i want it, i want it !
[07:58] <LjL> shwag: check http://packages.ubuntu.com/ - but not now, in a couple of weeks.
[07:58] <antioch> How can I configure Synaptic to use Aptitude instead of apt-get in Feisty?
[07:58] <ircusr> xubuntu ftw!
[07:58] <ctothej> riesseg_: hehe.. you cant install it yet?
[07:58] <shingoki> ircusr: Well you're in luck then, since everyone is going for gnome! ;)
[07:58] <riesseg_> nop
[07:58] <ikonia> Bo7a: but your asking questions that are nothing to do with ubuntu - the ati drivers don't support it, question ati about it
[07:58] <LjL> antioch: you can't, since Synaptic doesn't use apt-get at all AFAIK, it is its own APT frontend.
[07:58] <ircusr> yeah!
[07:58] <ircusr> gnome and xfce rule!!
[07:58] <Bo7a> my questions are about ubuntu not the drivers
[07:58] <riesseg_> server is down :'(
[07:58] <ra21vi> LjL: thanks
[07:58] <fluid> what is the easiest way to change icons on things like, the nautilus recycle bin??
[07:58] <atomiku> Im having a little trouble, I want my 4gig partition to be the partition the computer boots from, and another partition with ubuntu on it. how can I do this?
[07:58] <ikonia> Bo7a: so what is the question ?
[07:58] <dv_> I want the gnome interface (maybe with a few more options) and KDE tech
[07:58] <soundray> J-_: X was designed with this kind of network use in mind
[07:59] <shingoki> ircusr: I would like something that look like gnome, but is as technically good as kde
[07:59] <Bo7a> ie: perhaps there is a way with a lot of work to go back to xorg 7.1 :) or something far out that i havent thought of.
[07:59] <ctothej> riesseg_: oh man. good luck with that.
[07:59] <antioch> LjL, so does it keep track of dependencies and such "smartly" like Aptitude does?
[07:59] <shingoki> dv_: yeah exactly!
[07:59] <rambo3> Bo7a, just use "ati" driver its works
[07:59] <riesseg_> han! i must test thu unofficial server... perhaps...
[07:59] <ircusr> shingoki: have you tried xfce?
[07:59] <dv_> for graphics, throw in E17 tech
[07:59] <LjL> antioch: yes and no. Ubuntu's APT *includes* that "smarty" feature (not apt-get, the APT backend itself does). it works a little differently from aptitude's one, but the concept is the very same
[07:59] <bgray54> hello
[07:59] <shingoki> a gnome/kde merger would be great, the kde guys could teach the gnome guys how to code, and the gnome guys could make the kde app layouts a bit less weird
[07:59] <ircusr> hi
[07:59] <ircusr> xfce
[07:59] <ircusr> or fluxbox
[07:59] <Bo7a> your definition of works is not the same as mine :p i am posting from feisty with ati as driver. but this is not optimal. so rather than just give up and go back to edgy i figured id watch the chatter in here for a couple of hours and maybe someone has another idea
[08:00] <dv_> yeah
[08:00] <eck> shingoki: not likely
[08:00] <fluid> nah they dont need to merge. hehe...
[08:00] <Sputnik> ata2.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4) How do I fix this error?
[08:00] <antioch> LjL, am I safe using aptitude and synaptic together?
[08:00] <LjL> antioch: i don't know if Synaptic explicitly supports removing of unused dependencies, but you can always  sudo apt-get autoremove  to wipe the cruft at any time, even if it was installed using Synaptic
[08:00] <riesseg_> someone know a french room for ubuntu?
[08:00] <shingoki> ircusr: it's not really window managers I'm bothered about, more the apps. KDE has good apps, and gnome has a good overall look and feel, but generally substandard apps
[08:00] <ikonia> Bo7a: you said yourself the card is not supported by ati - ubuntu can't change this, so your option is to use the "broke" ati driver or bo back to a working senario in edgy
[08:00] <StoneNote> !fr
[08:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:00] <hans0lo> I just ran a bunch of updates, and it's complaining about software no longer supported, which is now community supported. What repos do I need to add?
[08:00] <riesseg_> !fr
[08:00] <ircusr> ah
[08:00] <J-_> soundray: cool, never knew that. I thought that I needed to have both systems GUI to actually SSH into one and have a GUI working on the server as well.
[08:00] <ircusr> brb
[08:00] <Agony> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16607/ <- That's the errors I get when I attempt to boot 7.04
[08:00] <ircusr> lunch
[08:00] <LjL> antioch: the unused dependencies databases *should* be synced between APT and aptitude, but i wouldn't bet on it.
[08:00] <ikonia> Bo7a: its not an ubuntu isse, its the driver issue if its not up to your requirments
[08:00] <PriceChild> antioch, aptitude maintains its own list. so if you use both aptitude and synaptic then aptitude won't undo dependencies as well
[08:00] <surviver> anyone familiar with wine?
[08:01] <matkix0s_> !beryl
[08:01] <LjL> !anyone | surviver
[08:01] <dv_> shingoki, a good example is the comparison kioslaves vs. gnomevfs
[08:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:01] <ubotu> surviver: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:01] <antioch> LjL, do apt-get and synaptic share the list?
[08:01] <Bo7a> ok, ikonia, plz stop replying. yes i understand that for you and i the only visible solution is to go back to edgy. but who is to say that someonei n here wont have a nother idea before i finally give in and go back
[08:01] <shingoki> dv_: or the kde components (kparts I think?) that make konqueror so very very nice to use :)
[08:01] <ep2011> is 10gb on / and 40 on /home a smart combo?
[08:01] <eck> dv_: how are kioslaves better?
[08:01] <antioch> PriceChild, , do apt-get and synaptic share the list?
[08:01] <LjL> antioch: yes, the list is mantained centrally by the APT backend itself.
[08:01] <ikonia> Bo7a: what do you expect though, you don't have a working driver ???? what do you expect people to do  ???
[08:01] <shingoki> dv_: also just stuff like kpdf being so very much better than the various gnome pdf viewers
[08:01] <LjL> antioch: the aptitude list is separate however
[08:02] <PriceChild> ikonia, best you leave it alone please :)
[08:02] <surviver> this is my real question nabs :p
[08:02] <Bo7a> suggest a method of making xorg 7.1 work with feisty? or something else that you or i havent htought of
[08:02] <antioch> LjL, I see. Thank you.
[08:02] <dv_> eck, their modularity is much better designed
[08:02] <alex_dinamo> hello
[08:02] <janpo> Sputnik: have you tried with "ide=nodma" at boot ?
[08:02] <eck> dv_: isn't it true that you cannot access a kioslave like a mountpoint, like fuse?
[08:02] <Bo7a> there is no harm in asking every 10-15 minutes. maybe someone has thougth of something we havent
[08:02] <atomiku> Im having a little trouble, I want my 4gig partition to be the partition the computer boots from, and another partition with ubuntu on it. how can I do this?
[08:02] <surviver> i need some information about wine
[08:02] <Agony> Can anyone shed any light on this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16607/
[08:02] <LjL> antioch: anyway, very likely Feisty's Synaptic includes an "autoremove" feature, so no need to call apt-get just for that -- check, i don't have Synaptic installed
[08:02] <soundray> J-_: well, you need some client X libraries on the server, but not the actual X server and graphics drivers.
[08:02] <dv_> eck, thats the interface part
[08:02] <boubbin> !proftpd
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <PingunZ> What package do I need for xconfig ( I want to recompile my kernel )
[08:03] <ikonia> PriceChild: understood.
[08:03] <atomiku> You see
[08:03] <LjL> !info proftpd > boubbin
[08:03] <atomiku> I think im doing this wrong
[08:03] <PingunZ> !xconfig > PingunZ
[08:03] <ra21vi> LjL: actually i want to know if upgrade is possible thru downloaed Alternate images, i cannt burn it cuz my cdwriter not functioning, old hardware peoblem bro
[08:03] <dv_> in fact, there are kio fuse gateways already
[08:03] <erUSUL> PingunZ: qt3-dev or something like that
[08:03] <PingunZ> erUSUL: ty
[08:03] <Sputnik> janpo, what does it do?
[08:03] <eck> dv_: the issue is that both kde and gnome should just be using fuse, not implementing some compatibility layer
[08:03] <dv_> and its very likely that the kioslaves of kde4 will based on fused
[08:03] <dv_> -d
[08:04] <shingoki> anyway thanks for the advice on desktop effects, I'll give it a go. Also beryl, although TBH every GL accelerated window manager thingy I've ever tried has just spectacularly trashed itself within a few seconds
[08:04] <dv_> eck, fuse didnt exist when they started
[08:04] <LjL> ra21vi: uhm... it's possibly possible =) loop-mount the Alternate ISO... but then why not just upgrade over the internet, since that's what you'd be doing, basically, anyway?
[08:04] <ra21vi> LjL: will it work if i mount the image, and then tell synaptics to add cdriom
[08:04] <alex_dinamo> has anyone had any trouble with sound/alsa since upgrading to Feisty?
[08:04] <styvy> Agony, did you check your cd with md5?
[08:04] <slicknick> anyone seen this sort of behavior from rdesktop before? this is a dual monitor screenshot with an rdesktop session to a windows machine on the right side of the image. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ushbav
[08:04] <ra21vi> LjL: yeah right..
[08:04] <ikonia> alex_dinamo: a few people with intel chipsets have reported problems
[08:04] <alex_dinamo> it doesn't work at all... n drivers are loaded, alsaconf doesn't detect any card...
[08:04] <LjL> ra21vi: it might, you'd have to try and perhaps fiddle a bit with loopback mounting and sources.list -- but why in the world would you do that?
[08:04] <uber-n00b> hi all :D
[08:04] <janpo> Sputnik: switches off kernels dma on ide channels. Your error could be unsupported drive controller. Just a qualified guess
[08:05] <alex_dinamo> ikonia, I think I have that one... NVidia integrated AC97 audio
[08:05] <Taim> Anybody know how to disable "tooltips" in gnome?
[08:05] <cliebow_> im told cd burned faster than 8x may have corruption of very highlt cmressed files..
[08:05] <Blubloblu> Hi there, I need help with an Edgy to Feisty upgrade that went wrong
[08:05] <deserteagle> hello all, anyone have a clue as to why after installing feisty my monitor looks like it has 8 bit colors?
[08:05] <ikonia> alex_dinamo: no thats nvidia not intel
[08:05] <LjL> ra21vi: i mean, instead of telling APT to just download the packages, you're downloading the ISO, then mounting, then telling APT to download the packages from inside it. doesn't make a bit of sense to me TBH
[08:05] <dv_> eck, but yes, the way I see it fuse will be the common future
[08:05] <compengi> LjL: hi
[08:05] <dv_> I already favor fusemb over the kernel smbfs
[08:05] <LjL> compengi, hi
[08:05] <alex_dinamo> ikonia, mmh... ok
[08:05] <deserteagle> nvidia graphics card
[08:05] <ikonia> dere
[08:05] <ikonia> se
[08:05] <Pici> cliebow_: Yes, if you have issues we suggest that you burn the cd/dvd at the slowest speed.
[08:05] <ikonia> oops
[08:05] <alex_dinamo> ikonia, I think the driver said something about intel though
[08:05] <shingoki> cliebow_: I wouldn't have thought that the compression of the files would affect likelihood of errors, it's probably just that they have checksums so you noticed
[08:05] <compengi> LjL: have you made a good source.list?
[08:05] <ikonia> deserteagle: you'll need the nvidia propritary drivers from the repo
[08:05] <PingunZ> got it erUSUL, ty
[08:05] <ra21vi> LjL: actually I downladed the images for local distribution, but found the Writer not working , lol,... bad luck
[08:06] <POVaddct> dv_: sshfs is also very nice
[08:06] <Agony> styvy: What do you mean check my cd with md5?
[08:06] <deserteagle> ikonia: i let ubuntu install them when i told it to enable desktop effects
[08:06] <deserteagle> =\
[08:06] <LjL> compengi: uh?
[08:06] <shingoki> cliebow_: I've definitely had burn errors when writing at high speed, and if you are ever going to notice errors it will be on install discs :)
[08:06] <ikonia> deserteagle: reconfigure Xorg then to make sure its all set right
[08:06] <dv_> I hope feisty + 1 will make more use of fuse
[08:06] <ikonia> deserteagle: also check if its using the drivers
[08:06] <Andeh> Hello
[08:06] <biqut2> I'm having some problems running X apps on a remote computer using ssh & ubuntu 7.04, can anyone help me out?
[08:06] <deserteagle> ikonia: i did, it is
[08:06] <deserteagle> :(
[08:06] <compengi> LjL: i mean do i need to change anything in my source.list so i can good repos?
[08:06] <cudgel> hey folks.  i have a slight issue.  i'm an admin for a small company, and had a developer who took care of their own systems, and was running a few diff revs of ubuntu.  i need to recover his password, and login, and scan the machine for anything i might want to backup.  sadly, the dev had a falling out w/ the owner, and is unavailable to help.  where should i begin?
[08:06] <Andeh> Is it possible to "turn on" compression for my internet?
[08:06] <nite> where do I find fstab
[08:07] <Andeh> Or install something that will?
[08:07] <LjL> ra21vi: i see... "local distribution" you mean on a network of computers? you see, there is things like apt-proxy and approx that might help you there
[08:07] <ikonia> Andeh: you can't compress the internet
[08:07] <fluid> i reall really really want to lock my icon positions on my desktop
[08:07] <ikonia> nite: /etc
[08:07] <uber-n00b> 48% download :DD cant wait to use fiesty
[08:07] <the_glu> hi all
[08:07] <nite> thanks
[08:07] <uber-n00b> hey glu
[08:07] <LjL> compengi: context please... are you upgrading to feisty from edgy? did it through update manager?
[08:07] <janpo> biqut2: what ssh command are you using ?
[08:07] <ikonia> cudgel: I don't think its appropriate to ask in here to help you gain access to a system
[08:07] <alex_dinamo> ikonia, the thing is: I reinstalled everything that had "alsa" in there.. and there doesn't even seem to be a file below /proc/asound!
[08:07] <Andeh> ikonia: Yes i know that. But i know that sometimes you can turn on some options to speed it up. Is there any kind of internet optimiser for linux? The one for windows speeded mine up a lot, faster than ubuntu is now
[08:07] <lcc77> hi all
[08:07] <Phantoms1> Pleas help me instaling a modem driver in Feisty if posible.
[08:07] <cudgel> ikonia: you know, you're likely very right.  sigh.
[08:07] <ikonia> Andeh: not really
[08:08] <LjL> !modem > Phantoms1    (Phantoms1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[08:08] <andy_> where can I tell gnome that it should open all my torrent files with deluge and not with gnome-btdownload?
[08:08] <the_glu> how to rezie a windows partition, and take more space for linux  (with a live cd, of course) ?
[08:08] <atomiku> hmm
[08:08] <ra21vi> LjL: i mean to distribute to my friends and install in my college (Local distribution).. usually they look at me when new release comes, they dont have internet
[08:08] <tom_> hey
[08:08] <shingoki> Andeh: a thingy that downloads compressed stuff from a proxy?
[08:08] <compengi> LjL: i had just installed feisty from a clean install and looking for a good source.list
[08:08] <Andeh> ikonia: Um....... So how do i speed up my internet a bit?
[08:08] <biqut2> janpo, "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>thats the ip of the remote machine
[08:08] <styvy> Agony, the error message you posted might mean your cd has not the right code, you can check it with comparing the md5-sums
[08:08] <ikonia> Andeh: you don't
[08:08] <Blubloblu> I upgraded Edgy to Feisty using update manager and now when I boot, it says something about bad blocks on a partition. I can't load X, forced to use a command line but home directory was on bad partition
[08:08] <shingoki> Andeh: are you on a modem?
[08:08] <Andeh> shingoki: Do you have any examples?
[08:08] <Andeh> shingoki: No
[08:08] <atomiku> whats the latest version of linux headers that comes with 7.04?
[08:08] <Bo7a> has anyone tried to have a run at feisty while keeping xorg 7.1? (in order to be able to use ati 8.28 drivers) 3 or 4 'that's not possible' would be very appreciated so i could force myself to give in and go back to a clean edgy install.
[08:08] <leon_06> Hey guys ! I successfully installed a Logitech Quickcam express in Ubuntu Feisty and I use camorama to take pictures !
[08:08] <Andeh> shingoki: Well its a box, but i have ADSL internet 360 kb/s
[08:08] <tom_> Is there anyway to make the text in fiesty easier to read... my resolution isn't the way I would like it to be ( I do have an NVidia Graphics card)
[08:08] <ikonia> atomiku: do dpkg l and look
[08:08] <janpo> biqut2: Try ssh -X root@romte-host
[08:08] <Agony> styvy: I'm not using a CD. This is attempting to boot an installed version from my HD.
[08:08] <ikonia> Andeh: then thats what your limited to
[08:08] <uber-n00b> too much data too little time
[08:09] <lcc77> bye
[08:09] <eck> cudgel: the password will be encrypted anyway, although nothing stops you from mounting the disk partitions
[08:09] <Andeh> shingoki: thats about as fast as it usually goes but the internet optimiser for windows made it go to 400 kb/s
[08:09] <shingoki> Andeh: not for linux, stuff like that tends to be windows, but there's no technical reason it couldn't be done quite easily. Actually you could make one yourself if you buy a shell server login with a good bandwidth allowance
[08:09] <atomiku> ikonia: doesnt tell me anything
[08:09] <deserteagle> tom_ install the restricted fonts "windows fonts"
[08:09] <atomiku> apart from that it needs an option
[08:09] <styvy> Agony, sorry, no idea
[08:09] <Zamu> Anyone running 7.04 on a pc with a 3dfx voodoo 3?
[08:09] <hylje> voodoo3? what?
[08:09] <ikonia> atomiku: dpkg -l  grep kernel-header
[08:09] <shingoki> Andeh: anything large you download should be compressed already, and for small stuff that isn't a huge difference
[08:09] <leon_06> Is there any way to increase the resolution of the camera in camorama ??
[08:09] <janpo> biqut2: speling :-)
[08:09] <ikonia> Zamu: wow - old
[08:09] <Blubloblu> Anybody? any help?
[08:09] <Clement_Guislain> hello everyone!
[08:09] <Clement_Guislain> I just downloaded ubuntu desktop i386 7.04 ISO and burnt it, I want to try and use it as a liveCD, but I have a acer aspire 3020, and I heard about a bug on the ATI X-series mobility GPUs (I have X700 mobility), and it is not working at all (blank screen, PC idle). Can anyone help me, or give me a good link? cheers
[08:09] <Caramba_> bah...now I've messed something up. I cannot mount my external hard drive from the prompt (in console mode), "mount /dev/sda1 /media/temp" gives me "Mount: only root can do that". Now, what have a foo'd up?
[08:10] <deserteagle> ikonia: so no clue as to why my desktop looks so crappy? when i was using vesa drivers it looks good, now with the nvidia drivers it looks crappy :(
[08:10] <compengi> LjL: so i can get good repos for new updates and to be able to install useful software
[08:10] <shwag> what vnc should I install ?
[08:10] <biqut2> janpo, brandon@h3avyps3:~$ ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:10] <biqut2><EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:
[08:10] <biqut2> Linux 2.6.16.
[08:10] <biqut2> root@slax:~# kate &
[08:10] <biqut2> [1]  11511
[08:10] <biqut2> root@slax:~# kate: cannot connect to X server
[08:10] <atomiku> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.20-15
[08:10] <Bo7a> Clement_Guislain, use th alternate install iso
[08:10] <ikonia> Caramba_: use sudo
[08:10] <atomiku> how do I add the fiesty repos?
[08:10] <tom_> deserteagle, how do i do that?
[08:10] <Zamu> ikonia yeah i know. but it works fine in 6.06 but there was something wrong with the driver in 6.10 so i'm hesitant to try 7.04 even though i want to.
[08:10] <ikonia> deserteagle: reconfigure the nvidia ones
[08:10] <compengi> gnomefreak: hi
[08:10] <cudgel> eck: ok, here's the thing.  i'm a redhat guy.  i'm totally familiar with the mechanics of booting a system into single-user to recover a password, off a boot disk, whatever.  and i do suppose thats the route i ought to go...
[08:10] <deserteagle> ikonia: o_O?
[08:10] <ikonia> deserteagle: what ?
[08:10] <Caramba_> ikonia: Sure I could, but I have to be able to mount a usb-disk without being root, aye?
[08:10] <Blubloblu> I'm feeling ignored, I'll try ubuntuforums
[08:11] <ikonia> Caramba_: no
[08:11] <cudgel> eck: ...i'm just wondering if there's a more "ubuntu" way to go abou this.
[08:11] <deserteagle> ikonia: you mean reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[08:11] <biqut2> janpo, funny thing is that it works fine the other way around from that machine to this one
[08:11] <ikonia> deserteagle: no - I mean reconfigure them to make sure the settings are right
[08:11] <Caramba_> ikonia: Huh? It's done in -mode
[08:11] <Bo7a> Clement_Guislain, use th alternate install iso
[08:11] <leon_06> Guys ? Logitech quickcam express -> increase resolution in camorama. Possible ???
[08:11] <Phantoms1> Please help instal a evodo modem with drivers in feisty
[08:11] <Bo7a> oops mispaste sorry
[08:11] <atomiku> what repo do i need to add to be able to apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.20-15
[08:11] <Caramba_> -mode-> x-mode
[08:11] <ikonia> Caramba_: you have to set it up in fstab for that
[08:11] <deserteagle> tom_: google "ubuntu windows fonts install"
[08:11] <ikonia> x-mode ??
[08:11] <Andeh> shingoki: Would that shell server login be cheaper than upgrading my internet?
[08:11] <ikonia> Caramba_: use sudo
[08:11] <Caramba_> graphical mode
[08:11] <blackelf> hi
[08:11] <deserteagle> ikonia: how do i do that? :$
[08:11] <tom_> deserteagle, do you use beryl?
[08:11] <eck> cudgel: i don't think so
[08:11] <Clement_Guislain> bo7a oh I have to redownload then! will I have the nice Compiz desktop effectswith this version? I mean what is the difference between the normal and the alternate? and can I run the alternate as a liveCD too?
[08:11] <ikonia> deserteagle: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:11] <deserteagle> tom_: used it yes
[08:12] <Caramba_> ikonia: don't want to use sudo. what kinda changes have to be done in fstab? got a link to read?
[08:12] <Sarge> Hello, i need some help dual booting xp with ubuntu 7.04, how do i flag the / drive bootable in the install?
[08:12] <LjL> !easysource > compengi    (compengi, see the private message from Ubotu) | this is fine, as always
[08:12] <Bo7a> has anyone tried to have a run at feisty while keeping xorg 7.1? (in order to be able to use ati 8.28 drivers) 3 or 4 'that's not possible' would be very appreciated so i could force myself to give in and go back to a clean edgy install.
[08:12] <ikonia> Caramba_: google for it, the user option is rerequired
[08:12] <deserteagle> ikonia: i did that, and it is using the nvidia drivers
[08:12] <tom_> How do I set it up like in 6.06 so when I bring a window to the top it automaticall maximizes and i can also pull a maximized window and it become moveable
[08:12] <PriceChild> Bo7a, not possible
[08:12] <Bo7a> Caramba_, if yuod rather use an actual root login just do sudo passwd once
[08:12] <Huffalump2> Restricted Drivers Manager is supposed to be located under System > Administration, right?  What does it mean if it's not listed there?  I can't find it for the life of me and I've even asked another person to make sure I'm not blind, but they didn't see it either.
[08:12] <Andeh> shingoki: Would that shell server login be cheaper than upgrading my internet?
[08:12] <ikonia> deserteagle: so check its configured proplery - not just using the drivers
[08:12] <deserteagle> Sarge: you shouldn't have to
[08:12] <Bo7a> then u can su up
[08:12] <tom_> deserteagle, How do I set it up like in 6.06 so when I bring a window to the top it automaticall maximizes and i can also pull a maximized window and it become moveable
[08:12] <ForzaPalermo>  hey guys..... i cant upgrade to fiesty fawn because its telling me i need about 300mb more of diskspace... but i wanna know what i can uninstall or take out.... i have 5gbs partitioned to kubuntu.... so i really dont know why i even need space
[08:12] <ikonia> Andeh: this is ubuntu support - not internet R us
[08:12] <hmpedersen> I have some package dependency problem.. Does anyone know where to find xlibs?
[08:12] <LjL> ra21vi: err... i still don't get you. how are you going to distribute it to them if you can't burn it and you can't send it to them via internet? =)
[08:12] <PriceChild> !attitude > Bo7a
[08:12] <POVaddct> Caramba_: put the keyword "user" in the mount options in fstab
[08:12] <janpo> Biqut2: It could be because the X server is running "-nolisten tcp" I just dunno how to enable it in ubuntu
[08:13] <deserteagle> tom_: i don't think beryl would let you configure that
[08:13] <Andeh> ikonia: My ubuntus crappy internet needs support. Cheer up.
[08:13] <Caramba_> bo7a (and everybody else): I have other users on my machine, in console mode. Idon't want to give everybody sudo-access, they *have* to be able to mount from the command line as themsaelves
[08:13] <ikonia> Andeh: this is not an ubuntu support problem. Your internet conneciton is slow. We can't help with that
[08:13] <Caramba_> povaddct: thank you, that's what i was looking for!
[08:13] <biqut2> janpo, it is running -nolisten tcp but I can't figure out how to fix that
[08:13] <tom_> deserteagle, do you know what i'm talking about though... the way windows worked in 6.06 standardly?
[08:14] <compengi> LjL: sould i tick this      Tick this box to include source repositories ?
[08:14] <jrib> Caramba_: depending on how you want it to act, either "user" or "users", man mount explains
[08:14] <Bo7a> PriceChild, i apologize if somehow my questions put forth an 'attitude' but i thought that getting multiple opinions was the *nix way. i was not saying ikonia was incorrect. i heartily agree. but would rather get a few more opinions(and now i have yours) before doing a complete clean install of an older dist
[08:14] <Andeh> ikonia: Oh, i think it is. When i was running <Other operating system> it was much faster. Are there any common things that might be slowing it down?
[08:14] <Phantoms1> Where could I get asistance instaling a evodo modem with drivers in feisty?
[08:14] <LjL> compengi: only if you intend to compile packages yourself. it won't hurt (aside from making update a tad slower) anyway
[08:14] <PriceChild> Bo7a, feisty uses xorg7.2
[08:14] <ForzaPalermo> anyone?
[08:14] <tehquickness> I cannot play mov files
[08:14] <eck> Caramba_: also, look at the sudoers man page, it is possible to enable only certain users/groups to use sudo (or to have sudo use the root password) and more
[08:14] <LjL> Bo7a, please don't suggest setting a root password
[08:14] <riesseg_> yeeeeeeeeees !
[08:14] <ikonia> Andeh: your network drivers may not be great in linux - or may not communitate with your modem/router as well
[08:15] <riesseg_> i can install festy :P
[08:15] <janpo> Biqut2: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[08:15] <Huffalump2> Everyone else has System > Administration > Restricted Drivers?  I'm the only one who doesn't see that?
[08:15] <riesseg_> alleluia ^^
[08:15] <tehquickness> nvm I think I had a bad .mov
[08:15] <ikonia> riesseg_: we get the idea......
[08:15] <ikonia> riesseg_: give it a rest please this is a busy channel
[08:16] <Andeh> ikonia: No, my network drivers dont EXIST for linux, i had a shitty USB Winmodem with the same adsl connection as i have now.
[08:16] <Andeh> So i got myself a ADSL ROUTER (one network port so you need to buy a real router too :P) to make internet work with linux.
[08:16] <Caramba_> jrieck: thank u 2 for the reply
[08:16] <LjL> riesseg_: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:16] <ikonia> !language >andeh
[08:16] <Caramba_> eck: thank u 2 for the reply
[08:16] <Andeh> And i know its not that thats slowing it down
[08:16] <Phantoms1>  I nees asistance instaling a evodo modem with drivers in feisty?
[08:16] <biqut2> janpo, I've edited that file so that it says "exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100"
[08:16] <deserteagle> tom_: no clue, i've only used 6.10 and now 7.04
[08:16] <nicholaslewis> hi! can anyone give me a hand installing feisty fawn on OS X with Parallels? giving me grief..
[08:16] <janpo> biqut2: you might need to restart the X server
[08:17] <kazuka> is someone in suse
[08:17] <kazuka> can someone tell them to unban me?
[08:17] <sonium> if I have installed a package that showed up a special config dialog during installation, how can I readisplay this dialog?
[08:17] <Andeh> ikonia: No, it's actually called Shitty USB Winmodem. Made in Malasia. They probably had a bad translator.
[08:17] <LjL> kazuka: that's a tad offtopic. more than a tad.
[08:17] <ikonia> kazuka: no -
[08:17] <biqut2> janpo, I did a ctrl+alt+backspc and it still wont work, restarting the whole system doesnt work either
[08:17] <ikonia> Andeh: STOP using the bad language
[08:17] <ikonia> !language >andeh (again)
[08:17] <Andeh> ikonia: Yes, i did. I threw the lovely carp out the window.
[08:18] <compengi> !paste
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <janpo> biqut2: when ssh'ed into the remote system, does "echo $DISPLAY" point back at your client ?
[08:18] <tarelerulz> I am trying to get feature in Konqueror that lets you filter what it shows you  in real time the fold and files
[08:18] <ubu> hello, i have an i810 and i can't have direct rendering why?
[08:18] <ubu> i have commented the vesafb option
[08:18] <eck> ubu: check the xorg log
[08:18] <biqut2> janpo, it points to the system I am on which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:19] <Phantoms1> I nees asistance instaling a evodo modem with drivers in feisty?:)
[08:19] <Andeh> ikonia: If you fail to see my original question related to ****** winmodems, it was " How can i speed my internet up even more WITHIN linux. "
[08:19] <compengi> LjL: does this one looks good? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16614/
[08:19] <ikonia> Andeh: you can't
[08:19] <Andeh> ikonia: i already have some tweaks for firefox
[08:19] <compengi> LjL: or the official one is better?
[08:19] <ikonia> Andeh: its probably a driver releated issue
[08:19] <nicholaslewis> Does anyone know why the error "ACPI : Unable to locate RSDP" appears when trying to install Feisty on OS X with parallels????
[08:19] <ra21vi> can i do upgrade with Gnome still running?
[08:19] <ra21vi> in gnome-terminal
[08:19] <ikonia> ra21vi: yes but it won't take effect until you restart
[08:19] <Andeh> ikonia: There ARE no drivers, i said that.
[08:19] <ra21vi> ikonia: ok
[08:19] <ikonia> Andeh: then how is it working ?
[08:20] <Huffalump2> In the Feisty menu, is there supposed to be an item titled Restricted Drivers Manager under System > Administration?  And if so, what does it mean if I don't have that?
[08:20] <LjL> compengi: looks fine, just keep in mind backports might not be too stable (they usually are, though, ime)
[08:20] <ahmed> is Feisty using GNOME 2.18?
[08:20] <ra21vi> ahmed: yup
[08:20] <ikonia> ahmed: yes
[08:20] <ahmed> thanks
[08:20] <Andeh> ikonia: An automatic LAN connection thru my ADSL router that i bought  4 linux
[08:20] <Andeh> i gtg bye
[08:20] <fluid> what does "enable roaming mode" do in the wireless network manager?
[08:20] <ahmed> it just doesn't seem different from Edgy look-wise
[08:20] <snadge> im getting a not enough disk free message trying to upgrade to feisty, however i have 1.2 gig free, is that enough?
[08:20] <biqut2> janpo, root@slax:~# echo $DISPLAY
[08:20] <biqut2> <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[08:20] <eck> Huffalump2: were you running the feisty beta? i think you had to dist-upgrade to get it
[08:21] <ikonia> ahmed: its using the ubuntu theme - so will look the same
[08:21] <lavid> a question: it seems myself and some other people are having an issue with USB drives not being mounted with exec privledges in kubuntu feisty, is anyone having that issue in ubuntu feisty as well? i'd like to include that in the bug report too if so
[08:21] <LjL> snadge: might not be enough, if you have very many packages installed...
[08:21] <ahmed> thanks again
[08:21] <compengi> LjL: well do you appreciate the official one or this one if you were me?
[08:21] <LjL> compengi: they're not very different. the official one just doesn't include universe and multiverse
[08:21] <nicholaslewis> Does anyone know why the error "ACPI : Unable to locate RSDP" appears when trying to install Feisty on OS X with parallels????
[08:21] <janpo> biqut2: last thing, does the remote system support X-forwarding ?
[08:22] <ra21vi> should i remove beryl before upgrading, cuz I installed it from some otehr repo
[08:22] <Huffalump2> eck, I may have unintentionally done precisely that because I could not get the upgrade yesterday until i ran some line command with -d (which I think gave me a beta instead of final).   How would I go about updating from a beta to final, then?  I'd like to be on the same page as everyone else.
[08:22] <mrec> nicholaslewis: seems to be a bios problem
[08:22] <LjL> !final > Huffalump2    (Huffalump2, see the private message from Ubotu)
 yes
[08:22] <eck> Huffalump2: it should just be: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:22] <ra21vi> q07sa: ook
[08:22] <Phantoms1>  I need asistance instaling a evodo modem with drivers in feisty?:)
[08:22] <Gunrun> I am trying to blank the drive ubuntu is on, I'm using Gparted, and can only delete /dev/hda1, there are two other entries, extended, and linux swap, and I can't delete either of them
[08:22] <Gunrun> can anyone help?
[08:22] <nicholaslewis> mrec: any ideas on how to correct it?
[08:22] <Huffalump2> eck, thanks.  0 packages to install
[08:23] <eck> Huffalump2: the default behavior of apt upgrade is to upgrade installed packages, but not to install new packages -- the dist-upgrade will make apt grab the new things (or remove deprectated things) too
[08:23] <biqut2> janpo, ssh_config says "ForwardX11 yes"
[08:23] <Huffalump2> Yet, my menu is incorrect.  How can one launch this Restricted Drivers Manager?
[08:23] <gortiz> someone could help me? I have a fat32 partition, I've done a du -sh to check the usage and it says 15G but with df -h I see a 33G
[08:23] <ubu> eck, here's my config http://www.pastebin.ca/450244
[08:23] <maddash> Gunrun: that's probably because the partition you want to kill off is still mounted
[08:23] <biqut2> janpo, btw the host line is "Host *"
[08:23] <LjL> Huffalump2: uhm, dirty trick -- if you're on nvidia at least, try opening Desktop Effects, it should ask you about that. then you'll have the icon for Restricted. at least it happened that way for me
[08:23] <ra21vi> how to do FQDN?
[08:24] <Gunrun> ok, so how do I rectify this? maybe I am going about it the wrong way. I basically want a blank drive with no file system, or boot manager
[08:24] <janpo> biqut2: What about /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? Does that say X11forwarding = yes too ?
[08:24] <ra21vi> apache compalins about not getting FQDN
[08:24] <soothsay> Can anyone point me to the system requirements for Feisty Server?
[08:24] <Gunrun> (using the live disk btw)
[08:24] <biqut2> janpo, ues thats the file I am looking at
[08:24] <compengi> LjL: is feisty's source different from edgy?
[08:24] <Jet2k5> hello, I'm looking to try Ubuntu, and if I don't like it, how easy is it to go back to windows?  How hard is it to repartition the hdd and get rid of the bootloader ?
[08:24] <linxeh> biqut2: did you do ssh -X ?
[08:24] <LjL> Gunrun: you want to wipe your HD? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdwhatever, i'd say
[08:24] <Tarkus> what do i need to install to get mp3 support? and what is the best alternative to Windows Media Player? is it Realplayer?
[08:24] <biqut2> linxeh, yes
[08:24] <gortiz> any help?
[08:24] <LjL> compengi: yes, it has the word "feisty" instead of "edgy" in the repos names :)
[08:24] <janpo> biqut2: I'm out, sorry
[08:24] <Huffalump2> LjL, thank you.  I'm sorry to report that I do not see any listing for Desktop Effects either
[08:24] <ahmed> soothsay: 64MB RAM, 500MB diskspace (min)
[08:25] <ubu> biqut2:you need to ssh -Y otherwise you will get safe x11 and all apps won't work
[08:25] <mrec> nicholaslewis: asking parallels if they can check their bios, you might try to boot your box with noacpi nolapic
[08:25] <ra21vi> soothsay: for server, you can install it anywhere
[08:25] <Gunrun> LjL and that will allow the person I am selling the PC to to install whatever he wants on it?
[08:25] <LjL> Tarkus: if you're on Feisty, just click on an an MP3 file. and you have Totem for playing video.
[08:25] <eck> ubu: search for the line that starts with (EE) and then search for that error message on the forums/google
[08:25] <mrec> nop__: s/noacpi/noapic/
[08:25] <Gunrun> and where do I run this? just type what you typed inside terminal?
[08:25] <soothsay> ahmed: Is there a page with that info?
[08:25] <compengi> LjL: oh.. so i can use my old source but just change the word edgy to fiesty?
[08:25] <Jet2k5> does the windows type affect for ubuntu, I think they call it it berely, are those standard or do they require an extensive amount of knowledge of LInux?
[08:25] <ahmed> yes, the release notes
[08:25] <soothsay> ahmed: (Thanks BTW)
[08:25] <biqut2> ubu, -Y and -X?
[08:25] <LjL> Gunrun: i'd say so, if they know how to :)
[08:25] <ahmed> no problem
[08:25] <matkix0s_> !beryl
[08:25] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:25] <Phantoms1>  I need asistance instaling a evodo modem with drivers in feisty?:)
[08:25] <Phantoms1> http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.tar.gz http://www.zappmobile.ro/data/store/drivers/EVDO_modem/linux/linux-evdo.txt
[08:25] <snadge> is it ok to manually apt-get dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty? (since the update tool complains of a disk space error)
[08:25] <Jet2k5> ty
[08:25] <Ninjja> exit
[08:26] <LjL> compengi: if it only had official repositories, yes. but it'll end up being the same as the one that you just generated
[08:26] <ubu> biqut2, Y is for unsafe and X for save...in unsafe you must trust the server
[08:26] <LjL> Huffalump2: dunno...
[08:26] <kazuka> anyone using vmware with ubuntu here?
[08:26] <Huffalump2> Phantoms1 - you *may* also want to try #ubuntu-ro in case anyone else has Zapp there
[08:26] <vicks> i can't get usb to work in feisty, can someone help me? i have installed kubuntu feisty, and nothing happens when i insert usb-peripherals. i can't even install ubuntu (gnome), cause the installation hangs at the end when trying to load the usb-starage module.
[08:26] <fluid> hmm..wonder if topousa and the gps i have would work in wine. lol...
[08:26] <LjL> !anyone | kazuka
[08:26] <ubotu> kazuka: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:26] <Gunrun> gah sod it I'll just dig out my windows 98 boot disk
[08:26] <kazuka> sorry then
[08:26] <Melvinator> hey I am running dapper and it hangs when doing APT-GET UPDATE
[08:26] <Melvinator> any ideas why?
[08:26] <kazuka> which one is better fiesty fawn or edgy eft?
[08:27] <Huffalump2> LjL - Desktop Effects should supposedly be under System > Administration ?
[08:27] <Melvinator> it resolves the ip for the ubuntu repos
[08:27] <Melvinator> but it hangs
[08:27] <fluid> Melvinator: because they just released a new ubuntu, and its all slow.
[08:27] <VR_> Melvinator, it's too busy probably
[08:27] <Melvinator> hmrm
[08:27] <LjL> Huffalump2: or preferences, don't remember
[08:27] <ahmed> Melvinator: I don't think dapper to feisty upgrades are possible
[08:27] <LjL> Huffalump2: i'm not on gnome usually (including now)
[08:27] <Melvinator> well the other problem is that i have 2 packages that will not install
[08:27] <Melvinator> and im not getting any new updates
[08:27] <deathplanter> guys, my mate has resolution problem and even editing xorg.conf won't help. what's wrong?
[08:27] <Huffalump2> LjL, Ah... thanks
[08:27] <linxeh> ahmed: maybe he was just updating the dapper package list?...
[08:27] <ahmed> oh, sorry
[08:27] <ubu> eck, the only EE is (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable ...it's strange
[08:27] <Melvinator> ahmed, yeah im not trying to upgrade to feisty
[08:27] <linxeh> you can always upgrade via edgy anyway
[08:27] <Melvinator> just trying to get updates
[08:27] <ahmed> sorry
[08:28] <biqut2> ubu, brandon@h3avyps3:~$ ssh -Y<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:28] <biqut2><EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:
[08:28] <biqut2> Linux 2.6.16.
[08:28] <biqut2> root@slax:~# kate &
[08:28] <biqut2> [1]  16786
[08:28] <biqut2> root@slax:~# kate: cannot connect to X server
[08:28] <ubu> biqut2 yes
[08:28] <shea> SO, here's an odd one:   after upgrading edgy to feisty, and rebooting, i just get a grub terminal with no error.
[08:28] <Melvinator> are there any mirrors i can use in my sources.list
[08:28] <ubu> biqut2 that's correct
[08:28] <deathplanter> guys, my mate has resolution problem and even editing xorg.conf won't help. what's wrong?
[08:28] <Melvinator> that might move faster
[08:28] <gortiz> mhmm a problem with dosfsck.. it says "Leaving file system unchanged."
[08:28] <biqut2> ubu, I'm thinking the problem is the -nolisten tp but I can't seen to fix that
[08:28] <shea> i tried to manually load /boot/grub/menu.lst, and it said 'cylinder number too high for bios' or something to that effect.
[08:28] <robert__> Anyone with experience with OpenOffice that can tell me how to change  into " ?
[08:29] <ra21vi> is reiserfs4 incldued?
[08:29] <shea> i'm at work now, and the machine is at home, so I can't get the exact message.
[08:29] <almimoni> how can i install flashplayer for firefox i tried apt-get but didn't work?
[08:29] <linxeh> robert_: search and replace ?
[08:29] <Huffalump2> robert__ search and replace?
[08:29] <eck> deathplanter: when X starts up it logs all the information about what happened when it tried to set the resolution, but log file might help you figure out why it won't take the new res
[08:29] <biqut2> ubu, everytime it still says cannot connect to X server
[08:29] <ubu> biqut2,  -nolisten tp???
[08:29] <compengi> LjL: can you check this one please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16616/
[08:29] <ForzaPalermo> does anyone know how to clear space in kubuntu? i have 5gs dedicated to it, but yet im out o fspace even though all i have on here is the OS... everything else is on my windows partition
[08:29] <frying_fish> biqut2: don't you actually need to do ssh -X not ssh -Y
[08:29] <ubu> biqut2, did you restart sshd
[08:29] <matkix0s_> When I run nvidia-settings and change them it allows me to save to my x config.... but then i restart x server and no luck.... so I'm thinking its not saving it in the correct location.
[08:29] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: you could try apt-get clean
[08:29] <frying_fish> for x forwarding
[08:29] <ahmed> almimoni: Snyaptic
[08:29] <shea> i loaded a live CD and checked /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst, and the grub drive mappings, everything checks out; the UUIDs are correct, the drive mapping is correct.
[08:29] <eck> ubu: i'm not sure what that error message means, but clearly that is the problem
[08:29] <matkix0s_> Any ideas?
[08:29] <deathplanter> eck: where's the log?
[08:29] <ra21vi> almimoni: you can also downlaod the plugins from adobe site, and extract it in ~/.mozilla/path/to/plugin
[08:29] <shea> just wondering if anyone else has seen this error
[08:29] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, i did that and also autoremove
[08:29] <ubu> biqut2, and log out and re-log in
[08:29] <shea> or, whatever it is
[08:29] <eck> deathplanter: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:29] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: have you installed lots of packages ?
[08:30] <biqut2> ubu, No i've not restarted sshd
[08:30] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, only beryl and related stuff nothing else
[08:30] <linxeh> biqut2: doh ?
[08:30] <atomiku> I managed to mess up my /boot/ and vmlinuz/initrd.img files, how can I make new ones?
[08:30] <ForzaPalermo> so i odnt know how i can have 5gs almost eaten up on linux partition
[08:30] <robert__> thx but I want the "-sign to be used when I push shift-2... not the -sign which currently gets written in my docs in OpenOffice...
[08:30] <CAiRO> hi
[08:30] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: hmm, did you create a swap file or something ?
[08:30] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, i think so, by default
[08:30] <eck> atomiku: i would try reinstalling the kernel package
[08:30] <Huffalump2> robert__ so you don't mean in a particular document, but in a permanent way to modify the character set?
[08:30] <CAiRO> what can be the cause if the screen stays black after booting the feisty fawn live cd? the graphic cards is a geforce 6600 gt
[08:31] <VR_> how do i add something to the kernel command line?
[08:31] <matkix0s> Anyone willing to help me with a x config issue not keeping my display settings?
[08:31] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: that's a swap partition :)
[08:31] <Marupa> hey everyone, just restarted into feisty, and it came up with the blue 'x cannot start' thing, problem was nvidia driver couldn't load.  It worked perfectly before I rebooted, why is it broken now?
[08:31] <atomiku> eck: how?
[08:31] <biqut2> brb, i'm going to restart and try it, BTW here is the nolisten problem, brandon@h3avyps3:~$ ps aux | grep nolisten
[08:31] <biqut2> root      4647  3.6 15.4  44376 33744 tty7     Ss+  12:51   1:29 /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[08:31] <biqut2> brandon   5518  0.0  0.4   3024   884 pts/0    S+   13:32   0:00 grep no
[08:31] <CAiRO> the dapper drake live cd boots fine
[08:31] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, ok so what od i do?
[08:31] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: maybe use the gnome disk usage util or something
[08:31] <eck> VR_: you add it on the grub kernel line
[08:31] <VR_> eck, where's that located?
[08:31] <wheels3572> What happens if you have Gaim open and your doing an upgrade?
[08:31] <Huffalump2> robert__ try #openoffice.org
[08:31] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: or you can do a du -sk / | sort -n
[08:31] <Marupa> wheels3572, nothing.
[08:31] <eck> VR_: in your menu.lst, or if you hit e when you're in the grub screen
[08:31] <VR_> eck, and also, is that permanently there when i add it?
[08:32] <Melvinator> Hey is APT-PROXY supposed to be installed in Dapper?
[08:32] <eck> VR_: to make it permanent you have to do menu.lst
[08:32] <wheels3572> Marupa, will it upgrade Gaim for you if that's the issue?
[08:32] <Jonkka> someway to play a soundile instead of the pc-speaker beep in the gnome-terminal? my laptop doesnt have any pc-speaker >_<
[08:32] <aurelieng> hi, I have a problem with my freshly upgraded dapper to edgy. gnome start, then is killed, and back to gdm. Any idea please ?
[08:32] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, what does that do?
[08:32] <VR_> eck, thanks.  just one more thing... if i want to test it, how do i get to grub?
[08:32] <eck> atomiku: it will be something like linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:32] <Marupa> wheels3572, gaim is loaded into memory, the executeable can be altered and the loaded instance of gaim won't be affected until you restart it.
[08:32] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: disk usage, summary (in kilobytes) per directory in the directory you give it (ie /)
[08:33] <atomiku> eck: okay one minute :D
[08:33] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: you can then find the biggest, and then work through each until you find out what is eating your space
[08:33] <ubu> eck,  dmesg | grep drm gives me this [   84.008000]  [drm:drm_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 5559 using kernel context 0
[08:33] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, its taking a while
[08:33] <eck> VR_: when you boot up and you're at the grub screen where you choose what kernel/OS to boot, you can hit e and then edit the parameters grub will boot with
[08:33] <atomiku> eck: so I apt-get install it, right?
[08:33] <JanK_> how to see which process locks a file?
[08:33] <Marupa> anyone have any problems with feisty and nvidia?
[08:33] <linxeh> ForzaPalermo: it takes a while to run though as it trawls the directory structure to do it
[08:33] <matkix0s_> When I edit the x config I should save to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" correct?
[08:33] <VR_> eck, alright, thanks.
[08:33] <wheels3572> Marupa, ok cuz it says close all programs before upgrading to Feisty
[08:33] <Marupa> matkix0s, yes.
[08:33] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, thanks ill let u know the output
[08:33] <ra21vi> wat about the custom compiled kernel in upgradation? should i remove it and then upgrade...
[08:33] <Dyegov> Hi, I have just installed Feisty and I do not know how to use the 3D cube effect
[08:33] <eck> atomiku: you probably have to reinstall it -- if the files are missing, installing the package will put them there
[08:33] <matkix0s_> Well my settings are not keeping... is there anywhere else I may need to save to?
[08:34] <atomiku> k
[08:34] <DigitalNinja> How are the servers doing on the second day of Feisty Fawn?
[08:34] <Marupa> wheels3572, you're supposed to, but it shouldn't hurt you _too_ bad.  worst thing that can happen is you have to clear gaim's preferences.
[08:34] <atomiku> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[08:34] <ra21vi> Dyegov: go into system->Prefereces, and there enable Desktop Effects
[08:34] <Marupa> DigitalNinja, they're operable.
[08:34] <atomiku> linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version.
[08:34] <atomiku> im currently chrooted though
[08:34] <DigitalNinja> Marupa: Thanks for the info
[08:34] <atomiku> on the 6.10 livecd atm
[08:34] <Dyegov> ra21vi: I have already enabled them, but I do not know how to use the cube
[08:34] <CapaH> I am hoping someone can help me out... I have an ATI card, I just finished installing Feisty from a LIVE CD (iso downloaded from ubuntu.com) --- install went fine, but I had to set the video mode using F4 when the LIVE CD started (I set it to 1024x768) --- but now when I boot the comp, it crashes at the splash screen -- I suspect it due to either video drivers or resolution, but xorg.conf is set to 1024x768 --- any ideas?
[08:34] <eck> ubu: i am not familiar with that error message
[08:35] <DigitalNinja> Marupa: I'm throwing a Feisty Fawn party at our local LUG meeting tonight
[08:35] <wheels3572> Marupa, ok
[08:35] <deobfuscate> So I installed BackTrack2 on my system and it wrote lilo to the MBR. Ubuntu doesn't wanna load up with it can anyone help
[08:35] <Marupa> DigitalNinja, cool. :3
[08:35] <ra21vi> Dyegov: try ctrl+alt+mouse_left and move
[08:35] <eck> atomiku: there is a --reinstall option
[08:35] <ubu> eck: ok thanks for your help
[08:35] <Marupa> This is driving me insane.  I NEED the nvidia drivers and they're crapped up.
[08:35] <atomiku> eck: k
[08:36] <Dyegov> ra21vi: It does not work
[08:36] <atomiku> how do I use it, eck?
[08:36] <matkix0s> Alright... Can someone who uses nvidia drivers tell me how to change the screen settings and have them stick after a x reboot?
[08:36] <eck> atomiku: i think apt-get --reinstall install some_package
[08:36] <DODrive>   ...   Feisty ...     ..  17...     ..   ..   ..
[08:36] <Enselic_> Is it possible to reboot from the commandline withouth superuser previliegs?
[08:36] <ra21vi> Dyegov: actually i m on edgy, i cannt test it, i have beryl installed and it works that way
[08:36] <DigitalNinja> matkix0s: They should just work
[08:36] <Marupa> matkix0s, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <atomiku> eck: sec
[08:36] <eck> !ru | DODrive
[08:36] <ubotu> DODrive:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:36] <Enselic_> !ru | DODrive
[08:36] <matkix0s> I have and no go!
[08:36] <matkix0s> I reboot and it will not keep
[08:36] <Dyegov> ra21vi: But I do not have Beryl, it's the one that comes with Feisty
[08:36] <ra21vi> Dyegov: u can also try ctl+alt+left_arrow_button
[08:37] <DigitalNinja> matkix0s: Are you saving the changes
[08:37] <ra21vi> Dyegov: i know....
[08:37] <Eskim0> I have added another partition to my Ubuntu install how do I get it to automount and be R W
[08:37] <eck> Enselic_: no, that would be a major problem
[08:37] <sintflow> l
[08:37] <DODrive> i'm sorry
[08:37] <ra21vi> Dyegov: does it show any effects
[08:37] <compengi> DODrive: zaidi v #ubuntu-ru
[08:37] <DigitalNinja> Eskim0: You need to edit /etc/fstab
[08:37] <Enselic_> Eskim0: edit /etc/mastab
[08:37] <Dyegov> ra21vi: yes, it shows all the opther effects
[08:37] <dhgwill> i'm curious... my update manager is not working the way it ought to. it told me that i could update to feisty once yesterday, and i clicked update and then decided i didn't have enough time. now it won't show me the button again...
[08:37] <Enselic_> Eskim0: edit /etc/mstab
[08:37] <biqut2> ok I'm back
[08:37] <hmpedersen> How to I make feisty mount cds?
[08:37] <Tarkus> LjL: yea, but i want something thats good for organizing music and video, playlists, and also looks good. i have helixplayer, i think thats the opensource version of realplayer, not sure though. and i cant play .mp3 files with it. any suggestions?
[08:37] <Enselic_> Eskim0: edit /etc/fstab    sorry :)
[08:37] <bebleu> Do you know if there is a howto to install cvscedega 6 ?
[08:37] <dellolinux1> excuse me i can comand alsa in terminal ????
[08:37] <hmpedersen> System - Administration - Disks doesn't exist, it seems..
[08:38] <Eskim0> compengi thanks  i will tryit
[08:38] <itguru> Is it possible to use a bluetooth headset with ubuntu, instead of headphones?
[08:38] <Dyegov> ra21vi: the ctrl+alt+lest key made everything dissapear, but the cube was not there
[08:38] <Enselic_> eck: what happens when I shutdown trough the System menu then? Some signal is sent to init or something? I mean, I don'tneed to be su to do that
[08:38] <ra21vi> Dyegov: some problem bro, ask who is on Feisty
[08:39] <Dyegov> ra21vi: Ok thanks
[08:39] <deserteagle_> hello all again
[08:39] <Miasma-> Is there a list of bugs discovered since the release of 7.04 anywhere?
[08:39] <Enselic_> Miasma-: check out launchpad
[08:39] <eck> Enselic_: GDM runs as root, and i think GDM is configured to accept commands like that from users who have logged in though gdm
[08:39] <Enselic_> !launchpad | Miasma-
[08:39] <ubotu> Miasma-: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[08:39] <Dyegov> Someone using Feisty that can help me to use the cube effect? I have already enabled it. . .
[08:39] <ForzaPalermo> linxeh, du: `/proc/5251/task': No such file or directory
[08:39] <ForzaPalermo> du: `/proc/5251/fd': No such file or directory
[08:39] <ForzaPalermo> 247133262       /
[08:39] <ForzaPalermo> thats the output
[08:39] <DesertEagle> cls
[08:39] <DesertEagle> err
[08:39] <leroi> i need a good bittorrent client and i want it to be like utorrent but i dont want to use wine
[08:39] <leroi> any suggestions????
[08:39] <Miasma-> Enselic_: thanks
[08:39] <DesertEagle> bit tornado :D
[08:39] <Enselic_> eck: ah ok
[08:40] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: Get Beryl
[08:40] <DesertEagle> could anyone clue me in as to why the restricted nvidia-glx drivers make the monitor look like its only running 8 colors?
[08:40] <eck> leroi: you might try http://deluge-torrent.org/
[08:40] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: But I have an Nvidia 64MB video card. Don't know if it will work
[08:40] <eck> leroi: the interface looks almost the same as utorrent
[08:40] <DesertEagle> it's really bugging me =(
[08:40] <leroi> i have tried deluge but it just seems so buggy
[08:40] <bebleu> Do you know if there is a howto to install cvscedega 6 ?
[08:40] <leroi> everytime you do something something else goes wrong
[08:41] <eck> leroi: i generally just use rtorrent
[08:41] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: I don't think so
[08:41] <maccam94> bebleu, cvscedega isn't really similar to cedega binaries
[08:41] <mwe> DesertEagle: maybe you need to tweak xorg.conf
[08:41] <eck> it is curses only though
[08:41] <bebleu> ho
[08:41] <DesertEagle> mwe: how so?
[08:41] <s|ver|ight> bebleu, out of curiousity, what game in particular were you looking to run with cedega?
[08:41] <mwe> !nvidia | DesertEagle
[08:41] <ubotu> DesertEagle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: Is your video AGP or PCI Express
[08:41] <bebleu> It's because cedega is freezing when I click accept :(
[08:41] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: But would not the effects that come with Feisty work? all the others do, but not the cube
[08:41] <biqut2> ubu, I restarted the local machine and the remote machine and still it wont work, "root@slax:~# kate: cannot connect to X server <IP_ADDRESS>:0"
[08:41] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: It is integrated
[08:41] <mwe> DesertEagle: I think there is some info there. I have an ATI card now
[08:41] <deathplanter> erm, kde behaves weird-it believes 800x600 is the biggest resolution my monitor can take,how to change it?
[08:42] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: It should work. I installed Feisty a few weeks ago on my Lap top
[08:42] <itguru> has anyone been able to get thier bluetooth headset working in ubuntu?
[08:42] <ubu> biqut2, strange
[08:42] <deathplanter> erm, kde behaves weird-it believes 800x600 is the biggest resolution my monitor can take,how to change it?
[08:42] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: The cube thing doesn't work that well
[08:42] <ubu> biqut2, mabe ask #openssh on freenode
[08:42] <biqut2> ubu, ok
[08:42] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: How do I try to use it? I do not even know how to make it appear. What do I have to press?
[08:42] <hmpedersen> How do I get feisty to mount DVD-Roms?
[08:42] <szyjez> hi all
[08:43] <Enselic_> openSUSE has conquered GRUB, when I enter a GRUB shell and tell GRUB to use root (hd0,1) (where my Ubuntu root partion is), the openSUSE boot menu is still there. Is there something I havn't grasped?
[08:43] <Enselic_> !hi | szyjez
[08:43] <ubotu> szyjez: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:43] <DesertEagle> mwe: when it sasys to click the add button, what do they mean?
[08:43] <eck> hmpedersen: it should be automounted by gnome, if not you can use the mount command
[08:43] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: Did you turn it on using the "Desktop Effects" dialog box
[08:43] <biqut2> ubu, thanx for trying :D
[08:43] <jussi01> Hi all, i have a problem, I tried to install kubuntu desktop, but it stopped at  libavahi-compat-libdnssd1. then it gave me an error and it said something about bonjour, so i tried removing that. but it wouldnt let me. the errors are here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16620/
[08:43] <DesertEagle> mwe: there's no "Software Preferences" dialog
[08:43] <hmpedersen> eck, I can't.. It's complaining about wrong filesystems..
[08:43] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: Yes, I did, all the other effects work perfectly
[08:43] <Enselic_> jussi01: try #kubuntu
[08:44] <szyjez> i upgradet from edge to fiesty and i got some problems
[08:44] <eck> Enselic_: yes, grub runs in stages :-) it is hard-coded in the mbr where to look for the stage 1.5 files, including menu.lst
[08:44] <radioaktivstorm> hello! im having issues with the 7.04 wireless, it detected my card fine but it doesnt see the wireless network. i tried typing in the eesid but no dice. cna anybody give me som e pointers? (wired works fine thouhg)
[08:44] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: You should have a "pager" in the lower right hand corner of the screen.
[08:44] <Eskim0> what does it mean when you get "unknown mime-type for "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*""
[08:44] <Enselic_> eck: yeah, but doesn't the root (hd0,1) tell it where to look for menu.lst?
[08:44] <shane634> szyjez, specific question?
[08:44] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: It's just like the virtual desktop pager in a normal window manager
[08:44] <eck> Enselic_: no -- how would it know to read hd0,1 if it can't read the menu.lst?
[08:44] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: I have my 2 workspaces and the bin
[08:45] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: Click on it and it should rotate
[08:45] <Enselic_> eck: from what I understand, GRUB is hd aware?
[08:45] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: No, it jost goes from one to another normally
[08:45] <fluid> wish the caps in beryl could be caps
[08:45] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: Did you enable the "Cube" effect in the dialog box
[08:45] <Enselic_> eck: doesn't one have to tell it where to find menu.lst?
[08:45] <fluid> err desktops
[08:45] <fluid> lol
[08:45] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: Yes, I did
[08:45] <fluid> brain broke for a second there...
[08:45] <eck> Enselic_: yes, you do that when you install grub onto the mbr
[08:45] <DesertEagle> am i the only one having nvidia driver issues!? O_o
[08:46] <DesertEagle> the screen looks ugly!
[08:46] <DesertEagle> :(
[08:46] <DigitalNinja> Dyegov: Log out and log back in and see if that does anything
[08:46] <Miasma-> why is`nt there a option to send a window to another workspace ?
[08:46] <shane634> DesertEagle, like what?
[08:46] <s|ver|ight> Enselic_ I had a similar problem with the Windows XP bootloader, and it turned out to be an issue with my BIOS setup -- if you have multiple hard drives, the one that GRUB is on must be booted first.
[08:46] <Dyegov> DigitalNinja: Ok, I will try, be right back
[08:46] <DesertEagle> shane634: screen looks like its only running 8 colors or something
[08:46] <DesertEagle> some color distortion
[08:46] <Enselic_> eck: ok, so to conquer GRUB from SUSE, I need to overwrite the MBR with my own MBR, I can't set the root partion where GRUB should look for menu.lst afterwards?
[08:46] <matkix0s> !beryl
[08:46] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <shane634> DesertEagle, how did you install drivers?
[08:47] <hmpedersen> eck, It seems I'm wrong.. It's only come dvds.. It mounts my utility discs perfectly.. But not Guild wars nightfall!
[08:47] <DesertEagle> shane634: enabling restricted hardware drivers thing
[08:47] <shane634> DesertEagle, which nvidia card?
[08:47] <Tremitos> yo
[08:47] <DesertEagle> right now i'm installing the nvidia-glx-dev package along with all its other children
[08:47] <eck> Enselic_: when you install grub you specify the partition that the menu.lst is on, so you need to reinstall grub to point to the ubuntu partition (you can do this in ubuntu or suse, it doesn't matter)
[08:47] <HYPOCRISY> sup
[08:47] <Tremitos> unsure
[08:47] <DesertEagle> shane634: GeForce3 Ti 200
[08:47] <HYPOCRISY> secret
[08:47] <szyjez> What could by not OK when: by the upgrade it my computer crashed, then after a restart i could not login normaly, only after going to recovery mode, making dpkg --config -a , startx, loging out, shoutdown, exit i could normal login to my default user not asa a rooot and on x
[08:48] <shane634> !envy
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <dhgwill> apt-get dist-upgrade says there are no upgrades to be performed...
[08:48] <dhgwill> but it's not true.
[08:48] <shane634> !nvidia
[08:48] <EmxBA> dhgwill: me too.
[08:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <EmxBA> I have upgraded feisty on wednesday, last time.
[08:48] <eck> Enselic_: actually, you might need to be in ubuntu to do it
[08:48] <EmxBA> since that there were no upgrades?
[08:48] <eck> Enselic_: if you are in ubuntu (or can chroot into it) you can use grub-install
[08:48] <Enselic_> eck: so the root command (from the GRUB shell) is only local to a particular shell session? I thought that command wrote which partion to look in to the MBR...
[08:48] <shane634> DesertEagle, which driver are you using?
[08:48] <dhgwill> EmxBA: I didn't even do that! I clicked on the upgrade button once out of curiosity and now it won't come back :(
[08:49] <matkix0s> If i edit the xconfig will it mess up beryl?
[08:49] <Enselic_> eck: nah, how could this be Ubuntu specific?
[08:49] <shane634> matkix0s, yes it can
[08:49] <DesertEagle> matkix0s: it shouldn't
[08:49] <matkix0s> Humm
[08:49] <DesertEagle> oh... nvm then
[08:49] <DesertEagle> :P
[08:49] <fluid> why cant beryl set the transparency of xchat?
[08:49] <EmxBA> 1356 nicks? channel's not dropping since feisty released.
[08:49] <matkix0s> okay... well i messed it up then! How can I tell beryl to re-edit it?
[08:49] <idefixx> is there something special this upgrade  tool does? i ran it and checked manually with apt afaics there is no difference. so does it do anything out of the ordinary, non dpkg related?
[08:49] <joeamined> hi everyone
[08:49] <EmxBA> it has 200 users more when edgy was there
[08:49] <rogue780|laptop> can someone help me with wine? I can run the application from winefiles with no problems, but when I try to run it from a launcher the program comes up with errors then exits (not wine errors, but errors from the program that is loading)
[08:49] <joeamined> love to ubuntu !
[08:49] <DesertEagle> shane634: using 1:1.0.9631
[08:50] <EmxBA> idefixx: no, but it changes sources.list so you don't have to edit it
[08:50] <Caramba_> hmph...i'm going slightly insane here...i added the line "/dev/sda1 /media/temp ext3 users,noauto 0 0" to fstab. The I reboot (or run sudo mount -a) but I still get the error mount: only root can do that. Now what?  Edgy is my syste
[08:50] <joeamined> i have a question please
[08:50] <shane634> DesertEagle, try the envy script
[08:50] <hossy> hi, i'm having some troubles with screen resolution.  i installed ubuntu on an older desktop with an nvidia geforce fx 5200 connected to an lcd tv/monitor that can run 480p or 800x600 via vga.  unbutu is only allowing me to run 640x480, and there's overscan.  how do i fix this?
[08:50] <DigitalNinja> Caramba_: Reboot
[08:50] <student_> hello
[08:50] <eck> Enselic_: if there is a way to specify where to look for the 1.5 files you could do that
[08:50] <EmxBA> !resolution
[08:50] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:50] <idefixx> EmxBA: thx, that much i saw ;) - just wanted to double check
[08:50] <Caramba_> digitalninja: been there, done that...no effect :(
[08:50] <eck> Enselic_: i think the default behavior is to just look in /boot/grub/
[08:50] <student_> I cannot view any videos on the msn site
[08:51] <student_> how can I see those?
[08:51] <shane634> hossy, i run that card just fine here
[08:51] <joeamined> i have a HP laptop (dv6000) with a built in webcam that i can't make work on feisty
[08:51] <EmxBA> !codecs > student_  (check private message)
[08:51] <DigitalNinja> Caramba: Do you have a mount point or directory to mount the partition/drive at
[08:51] <DesertEagle> bleh gonna Ctrl+Alt+Backspace... wish me luck!
[08:51] <student_> I have already installed everything on the RestrictedForats page
[08:51] <student_> as well as Flash
[08:51] <EmxBA> god luck DesertEagle :)
[08:51] <shane634> DesertEagle, good luck
[08:51] <DesertEagle> thanks! i'll need it :S
[08:51] <student_> EmxBA: I did that already
[08:51] <blocky> anyone ever heard of someone getting a creative x-fi working in linux?
[08:51] <DigitalNinja> Caramba_: Do you have a directory where you want to mount the partition/drive at?
[08:52] <EmxBA> student_: msn.com uses something else than flash? msn.com works for me in firefox
[08:52] <Enselic_> eck: yes, the problem is how to tell GRUB where root is?
[08:52] <blocky> creative and alsa are just pointing at each other
[08:52] <Enselic_> ? -> .
[08:52] <Caramba_> yeah, that's the /media/temp-directory. it exists. And a sudo in front of "mount /dev/sda1 /media/temp" works like a charm
[08:52] <Wanderer_> is an AMD Turion 64 processor supposed to be dual core?
[08:52] <deCon> quick question, what is the easiest way to burn as an iso? i have gnomebaker
[08:52] <hossy> shane634: i'm going to assume this has something to do with the monitor i'm connected to.  how do i fix the overscan? is it possible to switch to 480p or 800x600?
[08:52] <joeamined> how can i make the built in webcam of my HP laptop (dv6000) work in feisty ?
[08:52] <eck> Enselic_: usually if I want to change it and I am not in the correct place, I chroot to the install I want to install it from and run grub-install from the chroot
[08:52] <student_> EmxBA: doesn't for me
[08:52] <gravemind> hey guys, I put in a dvd but totem gave me an error message!
[08:52] <Enselic_> deCon: I use k3b, it's great
[08:52] <deserteagle> stupid drivers! >_<
[08:52] <shane634> hossy, should be yes
[08:52] <Enselic_> deCon: sudo apt-get install k3b
[08:52] <deCon> Enselic_, word, thank you
[08:52] <blocky> meanwhile there is no support whatsoever for the carrd
[08:52] <deCon> happy holiday everyone
[08:52] <student_> EmxBA: give me a page that works for you
[08:52] <DigitalNinja> Caramba_: That's good. Not sure why you couldn't mount it though
[08:52] <hossy> shane634: how?
[08:53] <DigitalNinja> Caramba_: As your self
[08:53] <Enselic_> deCon: you too
[08:53] <shane634> hossy, look under Applications Sys tools Nvidia settings
[08:53] <EmxBA> bih.net.ba perhaps, it has some flash on the main page, student_
[08:53] <styvy> Wanderer_, defenetly not
[08:53] <Caramba_> digitalninja: nope, me neither. the user-option in the line should do the trick, right?
[08:53] <crow> How to put "WPA(PSK)" mode in WIreless configuration i cant get this one working
[08:53] <crow> :(
[08:53] <Gorila> what up all
[08:53] <EmxBA> hi Gorila
[08:53] <Gorila> hello
[08:53] <radioaktivstorm> can anyone help out with the wireless? driver seems to have been recognized \o/ but it doesnt see the networks eesid
[08:53] <joeamined> how can i make the built in webcam of my HP laptop (dv6000) work in feisty please ? :(
[08:53] <Caramba_> what about permissions for the /dev/sda1 and /media/temp?
[08:53] <Gorila> I have a simple question