[10:31] <doctorow> Rohan, there's nothing like that in Gnome -> System -> pPrefernces -> Power Manager
[10:31] <huangpeng> how to make friends ?
[10:31] <adred> tech0007: il try it..
[10:32] <huangpeng> tech0007 how
[10:32] <Flannel> huangpeng: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[10:32] <u007> anyone know if i could check if firefox is actually using pulse for the flash?
[10:32] <rohan> doctorow: strange, though i'm not so sure :(
[10:32] <Bodsda_> glitsj16, this thin is apparently meant to allow me to send yahoo mail in thunderbird
[10:32] <jackinloadup> tech0007, hey i chown helped my uid problem a lot but im still having a problem none of my gnome-panel things are showing up and i cant seem to launch it with alt-f2 any ideas as to what other files i might need to chown?
[10:32] <rohan> gnomefreak: since chrols seems to be away, would you know if his problem is solved?
[10:32] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, the link you ave me about thunderbird sending yahoo mail, told me to install ypops
[10:32] <gnomefreak> rohan: it looks as if it is
[10:33] <rohan> gnomefreak: ah okay
[10:33] <chrols> rohan: Sorry about not answering but my problem is more or less solved
[10:33] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, this is the contents of the folder -- http://pastebin.com/f6651a2f3
[10:33] <tech0007> jackinloadup: you can just add them to your panel, rightclick then add
[10:33] <rohan> chrols: oh ok
[10:33] <doctorow> Does anyone know how to get Gutsy to prompt for a password after resuming from suspend/hibernate?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Bodsda_: oh? weird, thought theyd just give access to their smtp stuff, gimme a sec
[10:34] <bzrk> does anyone know how to change the sequence in which modules are loaded by the kernel?
[10:34] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, ty, the download link if you wanna have a proper look is - http://email.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=email&cdn=compute&tm=4&f=00&su=p284.8.150.ip_&tt=4&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.ypopsemail.com/
[10:34] <Genrator> Does anyone know why the Restricted Devices Manager is not in umbuntu 8.04?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Bodsda_: You can use Outlook with many Yahoo! Mail e-mail accounts. However, free Web browser-based Yahoo! Mail accounts based in China, Taiwan, or the United States can only be used in Outlook if you have a paid subscription Yahoo! Mail account that includes POP3 access and forwarding.
[10:34] <srf211> Hi all.  Trying to troubleshoot a problem that i am having building the module/driver for the Reattek rtl8110SC nic.  Getting a "No such file or directory" error.
[10:34] <tech0007> bzrk: try /etc/modules
[10:34] <Bodsda_> Genrator, it is.. its called Hardware drivers
[10:34] <bzrk> tech0007 thx
[10:35] <jackinloadup> tech0007, yeah tried that.. :-( it doesnt show up its just create folder and stuff. just to clarify there are no panels launched at the moment and trying to launch them manually fails
[10:35] <chrols> rohan: Thanks for the help
[10:35] <Genrator> Bodsda: ahh wondered about that, cheers.
[10:35] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, correct but ypops is supposed to allow thunderbird to use free yahoo mail to send mail
[10:35] <srf211> I have followed the steps in the last post of this thread, but no dice.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629878&highlight=rtl8110sc
[10:35] <rohan> chrols: no problem, i didn't help anyway ;) just curious to know, how was it solved/
[10:35] <glitsj16> Bodsda: there's an extension that has similar capabilities here, and that seems to be better documented http://webmail.mozdev.org/index.html
[10:35] <tech0007> jackinloadup: just exactly what happend before this?
[10:36] <erUSUL> doctorow: open the gconf-editor (alt+ f2 gconf-editor <enter>) go to apps->gnome-power-manager->lock check settings there
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Bodsda_: ok, so what have you actualy downloaded, an archive? a deb?
[10:36] <Bodsda_> glitsj16, i love you,.,.;~)
[10:36] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, a tar.bz2 -- i sent you the link
[10:36] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, http://email.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=email&cdn=compute&tm=4&f=00&su=p284.8.150.ip_&tt=4&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.ypopsemail.com/
[10:36] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, i think ive found an alternative
[10:37] <Bodsda_> ActionParsnip, well not me glitsj16 found it ;~)
[10:37] <chrols> rohan: Well turns out it is a problem with the chroot I am running firefox from rather than firefox itself, though strangely it didn't mind the chroot until recently
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> cool
[10:37] <glitsj16> Bodsda: i'll cut that line out of my screen lol, you're welcome
[10:37] <rohan> wow WOW WOW firefox 3 can now open associations like pdf mp3 correctly in kde. GREAT. thanks for the update to rc1
[10:37] <rohan> it was really irritating to not have pdf files open directly in kpdf from firefox
[10:37] <jackinloadup> tech0007, i changed my uid and chown my home folder and a few tmp/ folders that were listed with my name.. it logged in clean but no gnome-panels are showing up. i got a terminal window up and tried running 'gnome-panel' and it says a panel is running.. cant see it though.
[10:38] <genus-8> hi
[10:38] <genus-8> i need help now
[10:38] <genus-8> can you?
[10:38] <poypoy> hi can anyone help me plz i insoled amaricas army but dont know how to run it there was no desktop short cut for the game
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> rohan: Ive not seen that issue, Web hosted PDFs always opened in FF forme
[10:38] <rohan> ActionParsnip: oh, for me, they never had the option of opening with kpdf. only open with "firefox3" or save to disk
[10:38] <koshari> poypoy can you launch it from terminal?
[10:38] <u007> ubuntu 8.04 sound is a mess..
[10:39] <poypoy> thank you whot do i type
[10:39] <u007> anyone know how can i fix it?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> rohan: i opened it with firefox to keep it inline rather than running an extra program :)
[10:39] <rohan> u007: mess in what way?
[10:39] <Jalathan> poypoy, i believe that armyops is the command
[10:39] <rohan> ActionParsnip: uh what? it can open inline? _really_?
[10:40] <u007> rohan - when my firefox is open, my totem have no sound
[10:40] <rohan> ActionParsnip: doesn't work for me. /tmp/Submissions_Info.pdf could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred.
[10:40] <u007> with youtube on...
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> rohan: from what i recall, FF2 does it ok
[10:40] <genus-8> it need to update from server with downloading packs mpeg or ffmpeg
[10:40] <hirak99> is there a good consol instant messenger that connects with gtalk or yahoo messenger?
[10:40] <poypoy> thanks guys when it comes to help you guys are the best :)
[10:40] <Jalathan> poypoy, ...
[10:40] <genus-8> but i dont know where is it
[10:40] <rohan> ActionParsnip: ok, you must've a plugin installed
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> rohan: indeed ;)
[10:40] <genus-8> anyone can say it to me?
[10:40] <rohan> u007: did it happen with ubuntu 7.10
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> rohan: well not on my new install
[10:41] <u007> rohan - no..
[10:41] <glitsj16> u007: that's not firefox, nor ubuntu, it's Flash --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 (part B), basically try Flash player 10 beta, they've resolved the issue
[10:41] <jackinloadup> tech0007, i think i solved my problem.. THANK YOU! for your help chown worked like a charm
[10:41] <u007> glitsj16, koay :)
[10:41] <tech0007> jackinloadup: np
[10:41] <rohan> u007: wow, glitsj16 just stole my words ;)
[10:41] <chrols> glitsj16: Do you know how well the beta works?
[10:42] <glitsj16> chrols: i've been using it for about 2 weeks without glitches
[10:42] <u007> rohan, haha.. okay
[10:42] <steve234959444> why do i get "sudo: unable to resolve host steve-desktop"?
[10:42] <chrols> glitsj16: Sounds like worth checking out then. Thanks
[10:43] <glitsj16> chrols: yes otherwise flash/youtube keeps hijacking all sound, it's worth a shot
[10:43] <Jalathan> poypoy, you can create a "shortcut" on the menu, by r. clicking on Applications > edit menu > Games > + New Item.  Fill in the application's information for the title, command is 'armyops', and the icon can be changed via clicking on the "spring". i _think_ that the icon is there.
[10:44] <tech0007> steve234959444: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361
[10:44] <steve234959444> thanks
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Jalathan: or create a small bash script in /etc/bin ;)
[10:45] <Jalathan> ActionParsnip, true, but it's already set to be ran by just the command
[10:46] <keddy> is there a way to disable computer beep from ubuntu ?
[10:46] <psypointer> hi
[10:46] <Anarh> hi, i am having a problem. somehow when i press Ctrl all the keys change the layout for the duration of me holding it. So i cannot Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Z the programmes (that simply types russian character) i don't know what i did
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Jalathan: doesnt it need some wine / cedega goodness?
[10:46] <Jalathan> ActionParsnip, nope, they have a native client!
[10:46] <Jalathan> ^_^
[10:46] <Anarh> i have tried redoing the xorg conf with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:46] <srf211> keddy, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126746
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Jalathan: sweet (I dont game so I wouldnt know really)
[10:47] <argiris_> kluy
[10:47] <keddy> srf211, thank you!
[10:47] <tech0007> keddy: system->preferences->sound,  uncheck systembeep
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Jalathan: Ive heard some games do now though, just didnt know which ones
[10:47] <chrols> ActionParsnip: Well if it still armyops you guys are talking about the Linux client is way old last I checked
[10:47] <u007> it is so confusing
[10:47] <u007> people doubt no the solution.. :(
[10:47] <srf211> @keddy: no problem.
[10:47] <u007> on the solution
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> chrols: yeah
[10:48] <keddy> tech0007, thank you :P
[10:50] <qiyong> is there any tool can convert .html to .txt?
[10:50] <psypointer> i've got problems with my preseeding and this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/238974
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> qiyong: cat some.html > sometextfile.txt
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> qiyong: if you just want the html in a text file
[10:51] <qiyong> ActionParsnip: how about html tags?
[10:51] <psypointer> is there any possibility to prevent that fucking ntfs deb from loading / ignoring the error and continueing the installation? i need a working preseed here
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> qiyong: oh, do you mean how it shows on the page when viewed with a web browser?
[10:52] <qiyong> ActionParsnip: i want to convert html files to txt files so i can read it in some .txt reader
[10:52] <qiyong> pda .txt reader
[10:52] <Jalathan> !ohmy | psypointer
[10:52] <srf211> anyone have experience troubleshooting module compiling errors?
[10:53] <psypointer> Jalathan: that really helps me now...
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> qiyong: just open the .html with your favourite text editor
[10:53] <srf211> I pulling my hair out trying to get the rtl8110SC driver compiled.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> qiyong: e.g. nano file.html
[10:53] <keddy> Here is  how you disable your Beep in console, sudo rmmod pcspkr - /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist    #add blacklist pcspkr   :) very usefull hehe
[10:53] <tech0007> psypointer: tried changing mirrors
[10:53] <psypointer> tech0007: hM?
[10:53] <Sergiu> hi
[10:53] <qiyong> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:54] <psypointer> tech0007: im using archive.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <qiyong> bye
[10:54] <Sergiu> how to enable to login from screen with root?
[10:54] <larson9999> i solved the 'flash makes me crash' bug!
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> keddy: in fluxbox you can uncomment a line in startup that is commented as #uncomment to remove beep :)
[10:54] <tech0007> psypointer: try another mirror, archive.ubuntu.com can be quite busy sometimes
[10:55] <poypoy> thank you jalathan was very helpfull
[10:55] <psypointer> tech0007: its not a download problem. i'm using an apt-cacher here, the package is downloaded successfully
[10:55] <Jalathan> poypoy, np
[10:55] <smrz> i'm trying to use handbrake, however as handbrake looks through the titles (I am passing -L, looking for the longest title), handbrake crashes, citing a floating point error... does anyone know how to avoid this?
[10:57] <arnuld> I just installed Gutsy Gibbon and dist-upgrade(d) it
[10:57] <gr33b> hi
[10:57] <Jalathan> psypointer, so what you want the deb to do is to install itself, regardless of any issues with needing this or that?
[10:57] <arnuld> but there is no inittab file in UBUNTU
[10:57] <arnuld> how can I edit the number of ttys ?
[10:58] <arnuld> I want to have 3 ttys, not 6 by default
[10:58] <bzrk> arnuld edit /etc/inittab
[10:59] <bzrk> does anyone know how to change the sequence in which modules are loaded by the kernel(udev)?
[10:59] <psypointer> Jalathan: no, the problem is that the debian installer downloads this package when starting - base component it says. if it tries to load the libntfs-3g23-udeb it fails and the debian installer gives me a red screen and foo. preseed is deactivated after this but i need a) a automatic installation which works headless and b) a working preseed until the installation is finished
[10:59] <erUSUL> arnuld: move the /etc/event.d/tty* files you do not need to another name (for example tty5.disabled)
[10:59] <erUSUL> arnuld: e.g. sudo mv /etc/event.d/tty6 /etc/event.d/tty6.disabled) and so on
[10:59] <psypointer> and i dont need ntfs support on the machines here, so if i could deactivate the loading of the ntfs debs as base components that would be okay @ Jalathan
[11:00] <erdem__> #ubuntu-tr
[11:00] <keddy> there is kdevelop for kde, anythink for gnome ? like gdevelop or ?
[11:01] <tech0007> keddy: glide i think?
[11:01] <arnuld> bzrk: I said, there is *no* /etc/inittab in ubuntu
[11:01] <tech0007> keddy: sorry its GLADE
[11:02] <tech0007> lol
[11:02] <bzrk> arnuld ah ok
[11:02] <keddy> tech0007, hmm says its user interface designer for gnome :P
[11:02] <arnuld> erUSUL:: and how can I know which runlevel I am running ?
[11:03] <erUSUL> arnuld: in debian/ubuntu you allways run on runlevel 2
[11:03] <Nave_> how come when ever i update . then i can't play dvd
[11:03] <Nave_> then i have to install lib css files
[11:03] <Nave_> manually and then dvd works
[11:04] <Jalathan> psypointer, ah, ok, this is well beyond my level of knowledge, gl though
[11:04] <Nave_> does anyone know
[11:04] <Nave_> but this only happens when i update
[11:04] <psypointer> Jalathan: yeah thanks.. maybe i have to wait until the bug is fixed or i must switch to debian..
[11:05] <Nave_> but then i have to manually install these libcss files
[11:05] <jeroen__> hello
[11:06] <jeroen__> does some have a tip for a geographic map for my to purchase Gps 60cx
[11:06] <jeroen__> ?
[11:06] <Nave_> how do you run gps
[11:06] <bazhang> !gps
[11:07] <Nave_> on ubuntu?
[11:07] <Nave_> do they work?
[11:07] <Nave_> how?
[11:07] <Nave_> don't you need some sort of antena
[11:07] <jeroen__> via wine
[11:07] <jeroen__> wait i'm gonna post a link
[11:07] <rsk> the antenna is the gps ?
[11:07] <rsk> and then you just collect the info via software that ubottu pasted
[11:08] <keddy> Where can i find good old Pico ?
[11:08] <Nave_> but say
[11:08] <Nave_> you move around
[11:08] <Nave_> with your laptop
[11:08] <Nave_> in your car
[11:08] <rsk> ok
[11:08] <Nave_> how you gonna be detected
[11:08] <keddy> i remember it came with pine..
[11:08] <rsk> Nave_: the same way when you were still
[11:08] <Nave_> do you need to be connected to the internet?
[11:08] <rsk> you know the earth is moving
[11:08] <rsk> and the sattelites too
[11:08] <Nave_> i have 3g internet
[11:08] <jeroen__> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=309
[11:08] <Nave_> mobile wireless
[11:08] <Nave_> yes rsk
[11:08] <Nave_> BUT
[11:09] <rsk> so even if you are still it's adjusting anyway
[11:09] <Nave_> how is the satelitte
[11:09] <Nave_> gonna detect you?
[11:09] <bazhang> !enter | Nave_
[11:09] <rsk> it dosen't
[11:09] <Nave_> exactly
[11:09] <rsk> you just revice information
[11:09] <rsk> and you parse it
[11:09] <rsk> no biggie
[11:09] <Nave_> so its like www.google.com/maps
[11:09] <Nave_> same thing
[11:09] <rsk> no
[11:09] <glitsj16> keddy: i think it's still in the repo's .. alpine-pico ? is that what you're looking for ?
[11:09] <jeroen__> i'm looking for a topographic map
[11:09] <rsk> that's not anything like a gps
[11:09] <Nave_> i'm talking about the original gps devices
[11:10] <rsk> yes i know.
[11:10] <Nave_> where they give you directions to send you .
[11:10] <Nave_> to a destination*
[11:10] <Nave_> while you drive
[11:10] <bazhang> unless this about ubuntu support, please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <Eararaldor1> Hi guys I asked this earlier but still getting nowhere. Having some real trouble sorti ng out thiese nividia drivers either through running in terminal or just clicking them I keep getting must run as root. I'm using an admin account and this getting really tiresome. I even tried using EnvyNG and that just crashes. I'm using Umbuntu 8.04
[11:10] <jeroen__> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=309 look at this link then you understand what gps i'm talking about
[11:10] <Nave_> just visit www.google.com/maps
[11:10] <erUSUL> !enter | rsk Nave_
[11:10] <Nave_> simple and easu
[11:11] <jeed> Eararaldor1, how far have you got ?
[11:11] <Nave_> ok ubottu
[11:11] <Nave_> this ubottu guy is like nazi
[11:11] <Nave_> so many rules :s
[11:11] <keddy> glitsj16, yep..i installed it :P thanx a lot
[11:11] <Tuplanolla> (it's a bot)
[11:11] <Nave_> oh
[11:11] <Nave_> ....
[11:11] <tech0007> lol
[11:11] <bazhang> Nave_, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:11] <Nave_> ok
[11:12] <keddy> glitsj16, i used to use Linux between 1996 - 1999
[11:12] <jeroen__> i'm a very happy linux user
[11:12] <Nave_> does anyone think GNU is good?
[11:12] <glitsj16> keddy: hehe, still around pico yes, been ages since i used it
[11:12] <keddy> glitsj16, so there was pico as my favorite text editor on slackware 3.2 :P
[11:12] <jeroen__> got to go tough Thanks everyone
[11:13] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Eararaldor1
[11:13] <tico> bye
[11:14] <solid_liq> made_in_turkey: dude, you made out with a turkey, man!?!?!?
[11:14] <jscinoz> Hey guys, i borked my install and need to reinstall, im installing via netboot and am at the installation, however i wish to keep my existing home LV , my disk is basically set up as an encrypted LVM, i've switched to a tty and opened the encrypted volume and activated the LVs inside it, however the install still cannot see a filesystem on either LV, however i can mount them just fine and and confirm there is a filesystem there, any id
[11:14] <jscinoz> eas?
[11:17] <_empemp_> gparted has just screwed up my ntfs partition.   got it recovered by chkdsk /f but now almost all my .jpf is corrupted
[11:17] <_empemp_> any way to fix this in Ubuntu or do i have to go back to xp?
[11:17] <wols> you cannot fix this at all unless you have backups
[11:18] <wols> those jpgs are not data trash
[11:18] <solid_liq> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■
[11:18] <_empemp_> amazing
[11:18] <_empemp_> gparted is really a good software.
[11:18] <bazhang> solid_liq, stop that
[11:19] <wols> _empemp_: every guide in existence tells you to BACKUP before using gparted like any partitioning software
[11:20] <_empemp_> been using partition magic for 8 years on xp without any data loass
[11:20] <_empemp_> strange that the first time i use gparted it detroys my files
[11:20] <wols> doesn't matter. partition magic docs say EXACTLY the same
[11:20] <Jalathan> _empemp_, wols is correct.  with chkdsk having been ran, i don't know if it can be undone
[11:20] <jscinoz> _empemp_, what were you trying to do? resize a partition or somethjing?
[11:20] <_empemp_> yes
[11:20] <_empemp_> i have backup of most though
[11:21] <_empemp_> just some new photos from my new baby that got screwed up
[11:21] <jscinoz> _empemp_, resizing a partition is always risky
[11:21] <_empemp_> the imagesize is the same so i was hoping that the data is still there, maybe the headers in the jpg just need to be rebuild
[11:22] <zcat[1]> well that was fun!! Just went to a presentation on 'Excel' -- the supplied computer couldn't read the presenter's files from his USB drive so I lent him my laptop and the entire presentation was done on OpenOffice in Ubuntu. A few of the menus were slightly different, but he managed to find his way around.
[11:23] <wols> the filesize is the same cause chckdsk MADE it fit. they are GONE
[11:23] <_empemp_> damn
[11:23] <_empemp_> well, a good time to do a complete reformat ext3 at least..
[11:26] <jscinoz> is it possible to reinstall to an encrypted LVM? or must one start from scratch again?
[11:29] <adv_> is there a program that will save the X session and every program running currently so that it can restore to this point after a reboot?
[11:29] <wols> "suspend to disk" software
[11:29] <arnuld> ubuntu, by default has runlevel 2 ?
[11:29] <wols> arnuld: ye
[11:29] <wols> s
[11:30] <arnuld> how can I stop the running services then ?
[11:30] <arnuld> like bluetooth, cupsd
[11:30] <onisciente> i installed my Ubuntu using the Wubi installer for Windows. So, it created a virtual partition called root.disk1 inside another partition. This virtual partition has 10gb of space. Does anyone knows how to expand this virtual partition?
[11:31] <wols> arnuld: /etc/init.d/cup<TAB> stop for example
[11:31] <arnuld> wols:: not in that way.
[11:31] <arnuld> wols:: thats temperory
[11:31] <arnuld> wols:: at startup they come again
[11:31] <wols> use rcconf then
[11:32] <arnuld> wols:: I want to
[11:32] <arnuld> wols:: permanently remove them
[11:32] <wols> I just told you what to do
[11:32] <arnuld> wols:: rcconf , command i snot on my system
[11:32] <wols> arnuld: then install it?
[11:33] <wols> !info rcconf
[11:33] <arnuld> wols:: :\
[11:33] <jeed> hehe, wols had a mood change
[11:34] <arnuld> wols:: I got it, it asks me to stop services. One of them is upsplash, what is it ?
[11:34] <wols> arnuld: man man
[11:34] <arnuld> okay
[11:35] <arnuld> no manual entry for upsplash
[11:35] <arnuld> ?
[11:35] <wols> !info upsplash
[11:35] <onisciente> i installed my Ubuntu using the Wubi installer for Windows. So, it created a virtual partition called root.disk1 inside another partition. This virtual partition has 10gb of space. Does anyone knows how to expand this virtual partition?
[11:35] <arnuld> !gutsy
[11:35] <_empemp_> but there are no datarecovery utility for ubuntu?
[11:35] <_empemp_> like getdataback for xp?
[11:35] <bazhang> !usplash
[11:36] <gribouille> hi
[11:36] <wols> http://www.google.de/search?q=upsplash&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[11:36] <gribouille> does apt keep a record of the updates ?
[11:36] <wols> !repeat | onisciente
[11:36] <wols> gribouille: yes
[11:36] <arnuld> eh...  rcconf did not ask for bluetooth and cupsd and hal
[11:36] <arnuld> does it think they are not running ?
[11:36] <gribouille> wols, how can I get it ?
[11:37] <wols>  /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:37] <whistler> hi, i want to ask smt about SAMBA. Do I HAVE TO create a valid UNIX User just to share smb over windows network machines? I want to create a smb user only via smbpasswd command. How can i skip creating a unix user part? is there a way todo so ?
[11:37] <arnuld> wols:: they are running in my system. I *know* it
[11:37] <arnuld> ps x shows it
[11:37] <onisciente> !patience
[11:37] <arnuld> onisciente:: for me ?
[11:37] <arnuld> patience ?
[11:38] <wols> arnuld: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/    pastebin it
[11:38] <arnuld> okay, wait
[11:38] <onisciente> the bot ask me to type this
[11:38] <arnuld> onisciente:: :D
[11:38] <onisciente> arnuld: =)
[11:38] <Q_Continuum> Is there a fix for pulseaudio making only a single app have sound capability?
[11:38] <RiotingPacifist> should i use envy or the defeault fglrx for an ati card?
[11:38] <gribouille> wols, /var/log/dpkg.log does not contain everything from the beginning
[11:39] <arnuld> wols:-- erm.... it is like debian
[11:39] <arnuld> wols:-- I can simply remove those links
[11:39] <arnuld> wols:-- right ?
[11:39] <wols> onisciente: short answer: you increase the filesize of the file that holds your ubuntu then boot into it, remount everything ro and use ext2fsresize
[11:39] <elkbuntu> onisciente, did you know you can also do "/msg ubottu patience" to get the same thing but privately to you?
[11:39] <wols> gribouille: it's all there is as a log
[11:39] <mebius> xa9
[11:40] <sagredo> does anyONE know how to exit compiz fusion?
[11:40] <wols> sagredo: it's a WM. you eithre kill it or you exit X.
[11:40] <onisciente> elkbuntu: sorry, i was very experienced with IRC a long time ago. I forgot this simples things
[11:40] <glitsj16> sagredo: replace it with another window manager
[11:40] <sagredo> wols: what is a WM?
[11:40] <wols> window manager
[11:40] <sagredo> ah, a Window Manager
[11:40] <arnuld> sagredo:-- :D
[11:41] <arnuld> sagredo:-- I use wmii
[11:41] <longhong> compiz does not work well with skype now
[11:41] <arnuld> sagredo:-- guess the full name ?
[11:41] <sagredo> wols: will logging out and logging back in return me to regular X?
[11:41] <RiotingPacifist> sagredo: install fusion-icon
[11:41] <wols> sagredo: yes
[11:41] <sagredo> RiotingPacifist: what is that?
[11:41] <onisciente> wols: what is ext2fsresize?
[11:41] <RiotingPacifist> if you want to be able to switch it on/off that is alternativly uninstall it
[11:42] <elkbuntu> onisciente, that's ok, not all bots talk back in PM, but that one does
[11:42] <sagredo> RiotingPacifist: Thank you for your help
[11:42] <RiotingPacifist> sagredo: its a program that lets you switch window managers easily
[11:42] <sagredo> you too wols
[11:42] <gribouille> http://www.lirc.org/ says that lirc-0-8-3 works only on version 2.6.25 of the kernel, but ubuntu installed it on my 2.6.24-18 kernel
[11:42] <whistler> hi, i want to ask smt about SAMBA. Do I HAVE TO create a valid UNIX User just to share smb over windows network machines? I want to create a smb user only via smbpasswd command. How can i skip creating a unix user part? is there a way todo so ?
[11:42] <wols> onisciente: it's ext2resize. I strongly suggest you do backups before attempting all this
[11:42] <wols> !info lirc
[11:43] <arnuld> wols:-- I have removed the links I do not want ;)
[11:43] <sagredo> RiotingPacifist: how to I use the fusion-icon?
[11:43] <onisciente> wols: ok, i will look for it
[11:43] <onisciente> wols: thank you
[11:43] <arnuld> wols:-- thanks :)
[11:43] <Kartagis> I'm trying to install vinagre new version. I get a few dependency requirement. when I search for those packages, no package with that name exists. http://paste.ubuntu.com/19227/ is the requirements. can anyone help me?
[11:44] <arnuld> wols:-- one last question, How can I change the default runlevel ( except using command "init runlevel" )
[11:44] <wols> !info libglib-20
[11:44] <wols> !info libglib-2.0
[11:44] <RiotingPacifist> sagredo: you run the program and it should sit in you system tray them right click the icon and select the window manager that isnt compiz
[11:44] <gribouille> wols, how can I install a previous version of lirc ?
[11:44] <wols> arnuld: man inittab
[11:45] <jrib> Kartagis: sudo apt-get build-dep vinagre
[11:45] <arnuld> wols:-- no manual entry
[11:45] <jrib> !compile > Kartagis (read the private message from ubottu)
[11:45] <schumaster> hi guys
[11:45] <l3d> Ok I have a external harddrive and when I try to mount it, It says error and something about the ntfs drive didnt shutdown properly the last time and the log files says it is still in use any ideas on how to fix this I tried what  something with ntfsfix as one website told me but only after I made sure I had ntfs=3g installed and I do but terminal kept say ntfsfix unknown command. any help to get this drive mounted would be great thank you.
[11:45] <wols> !info libglib2.0
[11:45] <wols> l3d: run chkdsk in windows
[11:45] <jrib> arnuld: runlevels 2-5 are identical by default
[11:45] <jrib> !upstart > arnuld (read the private message from ubottu)
[11:46] <arnuld> nice command BTW :P
[11:46] <Kartagis> jrib: I have to compile from source
[11:46] <l3d>  ok but no windows here
[11:46] <wols> Kartagis: those all exist in ubuntu
[11:46] <jrib> Kartagis: yes, I know
[11:46] <wols> l3d: makes no sense. why do you have a ntfs formatted disk then?
[11:46] <schumaster> i have a little problem, my ubuntu hardy(8.04) sometimeś doesn't play mp3's
[11:46] <sagredo> RiotingPacifist: when I run the program no icon appears.. ideas?
[11:46] <gribouille> HOW CAN I INSTALL A PREVIOUS VERSION OF A PACKAGE WITH APT-GET ?
[11:46] <abuyazan> i need application to convert video from wmv to 3gp ?
[11:46] <jrib> Kartagis: do you understand what apt-get build-dep does?
[11:47] <jrib> !caps | gribouille
[11:47]  * wols puts gribouille on ignore for shouting
[11:47] <arnuld> !caps > arnuld
[11:47] <arnuld> !help ? arnuld
[11:47] <sagredo> !caps > sagredo
[11:47] <wols> arnuld: ffmpeg perhaps. not many programs can read wmv
[11:47] <arnuld> !help > arnuld
[11:47] <l3d> ok well Its a backup drive for when I did have windows and now I would like to grab somethings off and delete everything else for a back up for linux as I dont like windows anymore
[11:48] <Kartagis> jrib: no
[11:48] <arnuld> wols:-- I did not ask about ffmpeg :P
[11:48] <schumaster> my hardy install can;t play mp3ś sometimes, but if i restart my pc than he can
[11:48] <techno_freak> something weird happened, suddenly all medias are played in uber slow motion both videos and music files :S
[11:48] <brandan_> I installed flash and java, but I still cannot view Youtube on my firefox, anyone have an idea , or what i can do? thank you
[11:48] <wols> schumaster: next time your can't run your mp3 playing program from an xterm and check for output there
[11:48] <jrib> Kartagis: 'man apt-get' provides a description.  It installs the dependencies for building the vinagre package which are likely the same as the dependencies for the new version
[11:48] <RiotingPacifist> sagredo: :( i dont know i use kde, try launching it in console, alternatively you can do itthe 'hard' way and find out what gnomes window manager is called then run <window manager name> --replace from alt+f2
[11:48] <jrib> brandan_: did you restart firefox?
[11:49] <brandan_> jrib: yes
[11:49] <wols> brandan_: about:plugins says what?
[11:49] <jtravnick> is there a way to get rhythmbox to play true random? I have over 700 songs on my system and theres some that have yet to be played but others that it plays every day
[11:49] <sagredo> RiotingPacifist: thanks
[11:49] <brandan_> wols: have java n flash, but can't view youtube...
[11:49] <wols> brandan_: doesn't answer my question
[11:50] <whistler> hi, i want to ask smt about SAMBA. Do I HAVE TO create a valid UNIX User just to share smb over windows network machines? I want to create a smb user only via smbpasswd command. How can i skip creating a unix user part? is there a way todo so ?
[11:50] <brandan_> wols: about:plugins  ?
[11:50] <jrib> jtravnick: very very hard to have such a thing as "true random" :)  You can file a bug/submit a patch with a different algorithm though I suppose
[11:50] <RiotingPacifist> sagredo:  np, sorry about th icon redherring dunno whats up with thar :s
[11:50] <fxarch_> uck anyone got time to help me?
[11:50] <l3d> does brandon have any other plugins that could stop them from playing noscript will do that? just a thought
[11:50] <jrib> fxarch_: best to just ask the channel your question
[11:50] <sagredo> RiotingPacifist: all good :]
[11:51] <wols> whistler: check your smb.conf for settings of "security"
[11:51] <brandan_> wols: all i have is Tools   > Addons
[11:51] <fxarch_> Ubuntu 8.04 randomly freezes up everything related to sound and internet after a while
[11:51] <brandan_> wols: its firefox 3 i think
[11:51] <wols> brandan_: you have about:plugins. what does it say?
[11:51] <jrib> brandan_: you just type "about:plugins" in your url bar and press enter
[11:52] <grobda24> jrib ... it has to be something like a radioactive source ? :P
[11:52] <brandan_> jrib: says alot of stuff
[11:52] <jrib> brandan_: copy it and put in paste.ubuntu.com, then give us a link
[11:52] <Kartagis> jrib: it seems to work, thanks :)
[11:53] <brandan_> jrib: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19294/  :-)
[11:53] <jrib> grobda24: there's always http://www.random.org/
[11:54] <jrib> brandan_: remove gnash, install adobe's flash
[11:54] <glitsj16> fxarch: that's probably not ubuntu, but Flash 9 hijacking your sound .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 (part B) advises to try the Flash player 10 beta as a possible solution
[11:54] <brandan_> jrib: how do i get to the menu to do that?
[11:54] <wols> !flash | brandan_
[11:54] <jrib> brandan_: use your favorite package manager.  System -> Administration -> Synaptic for example
[11:55] <conrad_> i am having a really hard time with this error in amarok: "sound output unavailable: the device is busy". already tried so many things to no avail!
[11:55] <Hemebond> Notice: Whoever thought putting a Firefox BETA in 8.04 was a good idea needs to be shot.
[11:55] <fxarch_> ah could very well be, since thats almsot the only thing i ahve installed after reinstalling ubuntu
[11:55] <jrib> Hemebond: firefox 2 is in the repositories
[11:55] <YouBucky> Hey All, anyone know if its possible to get compix working on one screen but the other screen remain static under one X session?
[11:55] <pandajsa> OH,it;s a good pllace to study English...
[11:56] <glitsj16> conrad: which "engine" do you use with Amarok ?
[11:56] <rsk> Hemebond: if ff2 was in it, the support would stop before the lTS period has ended.
[11:56] <grobda24> jrib ... thanks :) but how to connect it to the music player ? "the next track is bought to you by atmospheric randomness"
[11:56] <Hemebond> jrib: Yes, but going backwards is difficult because of the changes between 2 and 3 with the bookmarks files and such.
[11:56] <RiotingPacifist> Hemebond: for most people firefox3 is much more stable than firefox2
[11:56] <conrad_> glitsj16: its currently on autodetect but if i try to switch engines, amarok says "no driver could be loaded" or something like that
[11:56] <jrib> grobda24: left as an exercise :)
[11:56] <l3d> ok so about my non mounting ntfs drive?
[11:56] <brandan_> jrib: thanks so much...it's working now....I'm glad to be a part of Ubuntu  :-)
[11:56] <Hemebond> RiotingPacifist: An update was just released, RC2 I believe, and I now get corrupt profiles.
[11:56] <Hemebond> Yay.
[11:57] <RiotingPacifist> Hemebond: export bookmarks then import into firefox2
[11:57] <jtravnick> Hemebond,  firefox updated today off of beta
[11:57] <glitsj16> conrad: try setting it to pulseaudio or xine (http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup)
[11:57] <grobda24> jrib ... k   ... :)
[11:57] <Hemebond> jtravnick: Yes, RC2. Corrupting my profile.
[11:57] <ben_underscore> Hemebond: try out epiphany - a lot more lightweight than firefox
[11:58] <conrad_> glitsj16: switched to pulseaudio now, didn't get the error about the driver but i still get the error: "audio output unavailable: the device is busy"
[11:58] <RiotingPacifist> Hemebond: how have you installed RC2 the repos version is still 3b5
[11:58] <Hemebond> RiotingPacifist: It was an update apprently.
[11:58] <Hemebond> I installed some updates last night.
[11:58] <ben_underscore> Hemebond: my experiences here http://dollarunderscore.wordpress.com/?s=epiphany
[11:59] <gribouille> where can I find an old version of a package ?
[11:59] <Hemebond> Then my extensions were broken, wouldn't update, and my profile was corrupt.
[11:59] <glitsj16> conrad: try re-starting pulseaudio, "killall pulseaudio" and "pulseaudio -D" to bring it back up
[11:59] <Hemebond> I just created and entirely new .mozilla dir and it corrupted after Firefox just closed.
[12:00] <conrad_> glitsj16: did that, still get the error
[12:00] <glitsj16> RiotingPacifist: hardy-proposed has rc2 i think
[12:00] <gribouille> where can I find an old version of a package ?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> glitsj16: it will not sure if it has been published yet but should be soon if not already
[12:01] <glitsj16> conrad_: try shutting down all audio apps you have open
[12:01] <RiotingPacifist> Hemebond: did you do this while mozilla was running, all i can suggest is to create a blank profile if that doesnt get coroupted then use something like FEBE to move all your stuff across
[12:02] <Hemebond> RiotingPacifist: Yes, I will have to export everything from 3 and import into 2.
[12:02] <Hemebond> Pain.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> glitsj16: sounds like your issue will be fixed in flash 10. i have it in my PPA along with libflashsupport that you will need
[12:02] <RiotingPacifist> glitsj16: yeah just noticed that it has been updated saves me the effort of doing it manually
[12:02] <Hemebond> Ubuntu should not be beta testing this shit.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> sorry not glitsj16 but conrad_
[12:02] <Hemebond> I haven't been able to empty my GMail spam folder because of a rendering bug in 3.
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Hemebond: it has to and its pretty much final release. oh and never remove ~/.mozilla or change from ff2>3 and back
[12:03] <RiotingPacifist> Hemebond: you could alwas have installed firefox2 from the start, if you dont want to test anything new either, remove all the new stuff from your ubuntu install or go with debian
[12:03] <conrad_> gnomefreak: i guess that's right, firefox is hogging the sound
[12:03] <kholerabbi> hey can I use a hardy version of gnome-do in gutsy?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> conrad_: its flash bug not ff bug
[12:03] <jrib> Hemebond: remember, this is a support channel.  No one here can address the fact that firefox beta is default
[12:03] <conrad_> gnomefreak: yes, i mean it's something in firefox, a web page with flash
[12:03] <triplegote> hi, is there a reason ntp-simple isn't available from 8.04's default package repositories?
[12:03] <gribouille> WHERE CAN I FIND AN OLD VERSION OF A PACKAGE ?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> knnot supported
[12:04] <gnomefreak> kholerabbi: not supported
[12:04] <gnomefreak> gribouille: please dont use caps
[12:04] <kholerabbi> gnomefreak: damn.. thanks
[12:04] <Hemebond> jrib: Sorry. Don't need support. Needed to whinge.
[12:04] <RiotingPacifist> gribouille: i think its around if you use a GUI package manager or aptitude
[12:04] <gordonjcp> Hemebond: #ubuntu-offtopic, then ;-)
[12:04] <RiotingPacifist> Hemebond: try /dev/null
[12:04] <Hemebond> gordonjcp: Cheers.
[12:04] <gnomefreak> conrad_: see if installing flash 10 and libflashsupport from https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+archive works
[12:04] <glitsj16> griboulle: how old ? in Synaptic you can force a version ..
[12:04] <Hemebond> RiotingPacifist: har har
[12:05] <gribouille> glitsj16, just the previous one
[12:05] <gnomefreak> gribouille: also helpful for a package name
[12:05] <gribouille> gnomefreak, lirc
[12:05] <gnomefreak> gribouille: pakages.ubuntu.com
[12:05] <Kartagis> jrib: I did a build-dep, I still get those errors
[12:05] <gnomefreak> oops
[12:05] <gnomefreak> packages.ubuntu.com gribouille
[12:05] <jrib> Kartagis: you need to pastebin them
[12:05] <jrib> gribouille: launchpad librarian probably has the old packages
[12:06] <glitsj16> gribouille: well that ought to be doable that way, don't know of any apt command to do that, must be possible as well if you don't like Synaptics GUI
[12:06] <gnomefreak> jrib: it does but searching LP can be a pain thats why i sent to p.u.c
[12:06] <gribouille> jrib, what's that ?
[12:07] <Kartagis> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19306/
[12:07] <jrib> gribouille: launchpad.net
[12:07] <ReVoLveR> hey guys.. I need help :S the top and bottom bar is disappeared when I turned on the computer just now. I didn't do anything to make it disappear. can anyone help me to re store it back?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: reboot
[12:07] <ReVoLveR> gnomefreak:  I rebooted trice already, but its still the same
[12:08] <gnomefreak> whomever it was yes RC2 is in proposed in Hardy
[12:08] <colourAgga> ReVoLveR: doe a couple of ctrl + alt + backspace
[12:08] <colourAgga> it should kill x server
[12:08] <colourAgga> and bring it back up
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: turn off compiz?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> conrad_: if reboot didnt work that isnt gonna work
[12:08] <gnomefreak> damn
[12:08] <colourAgga> i know you meant me ;)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> colourAgga: is reboot didnt work killing X wont
[12:08] <glitsj16> gnomefreak: has been for a while , seems an improvement as weel
[12:09] <gribouille> jrib, and ?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> gribouille: use packages.ubuntu.com
[12:09] <jrib> gribouille: and search
[12:09] <jrib> gribouille: I don't know what you are looking for and also don't know the direct location of how to get old packages
[12:10] <ReVoLveR> still it is the same bro :S
[12:10] <shadowkernel> Could anybody look at my problem with PowerTOP? http://paste.ubuntu.com/19312/
[12:10] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: reboot restarts X for you so it wouldnt change
[12:11] <shadowkernel> the kernel IPI is so high
[12:11] <colourAgga> ReVoLveR: try killing compiz then
[12:11] <jrib> Kartagis: do you see what the error says?
[12:11] <ReVoLveR> ColourAgga: how to kill compiz?
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR metacity --replace
[12:12] <ne2k__> when I try to save a file from Firefox on to a smb share, it fails silently. this is commonly known as a Bad Thing.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: System>preferences>appearance>desktop effects
[12:12] <gribouille> there are no old packages at packages.ubuntu.com !
[12:12] <gnomefreak> gribouille: yes ther eis
[12:12] <gnomefreak> gribouille: hint go back one version of ubuntu
[12:12] <jrib> gribouille: why do you want old packages anyway?
[12:12] <shadowkernel> Could anybody paste his/her version of powertop?
[12:12] <gribouille> jrib, because the current one is broken
[12:12] <ReVoLveR> gnomefreak:  I cannot see the system part.. (top bar).. also the bottom bar :S
[12:12] <glitsj16> gribouille: do you need the 0.8.3 of lirc or older ?
[12:13] <shadowkernel> I cannot find the answer in google
[12:13] <gribouille> glitsj16, I need 0.8.2
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> gribouille are you looking for edgy?  it wont be there but I have a partial at a scholl site
[12:13] <gnomefreak> shadowkernel: 1.9-2ubuntu1 in hardy
[12:13] <jrib> gnomefreak: file bugs
[12:13] <jrib> gribouille: file bugs
[12:13] <gavinlew> hi all, ive just installed citadel onto 6.06 lts and im getting an error on starting apache2  - apache2: Syntax error on line 185 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error online 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/proxy_http.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy_http.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy_http.so: undefined symbol: ap_proxy_location_reverse_map
[12:13] <gavinlew>    ...fail!
[12:13] <gnomefreak> gribouille: dont install edgys version.
[12:14] <shadowkernel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19312/, here. Very high wakeups. I am using hardy.
[12:14] <gribouille> gnomefreak, of course not
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR if you cant see minimize max and close you lost windo decorations.. easy to fix
[12:14] <shadowkernel> my kernel version is 2.6.24-19
[12:14] <shadowkernel> official kernel
[12:14] <glitsj16> gribouille: what about this ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/lirc
[12:14] <gnomefreak> gribouille: you will lose support for anything in its depends or reverse deps and update-manager along with anything else that updates system
[12:14] <Kartagis> jrib: I need to install gtk-vnc-1.0?
[12:14] <ReVoLveR> jack_sparrow. how to fix it bro?
[12:14] <whatshisname> ReVoLveR: I've had a few problems in the past with panels disappearing and reappearing.. but usually only after opening and closing a lot of apps/general usage... This was with gutsy.. I have since installed hardy.. never did figure out exactly what was going on.. just going on record that i also have experienced that.. sometimes if i put my mouse cursor at the edge of the screen it would come back...  on reboots it would be there though...  just for
[12:15] <jrib> Kartagis: you need a version greater than the one in the repositories
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR metacity --replace    or compiz replace should do it
[12:15] <gribouille> glitsj16, I'm on hardy
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR metacity --replace    or compiz --replace should do it
[12:15] <remfarkas> hi, anyone succesfully installed ubuntu hardy on ann asus a6r?
[12:15] <conrad_> gnomefreak: i installed those two packages, put the problem persists after a reboot
[12:15] <jrib> Kartagis: which means you need to compile that too.  Be sure you know what you are doing (ie don't go replacing all your libraries)
[12:15] <glitsj16> gribouille: that's why everybody advises you to not do it lol
[12:15] <gribouille> glitsj16, but I never intended to do it
[12:16] <ReVoLveR> jack_sparrow, sorry I donno what metacity even, its been only 2 week since Im using Xubuntu
[12:16] <gnomefreak> conrad_: than search on bugs.launchpad.net for your bug or file a new one. It maybe pulseaudio problem
[12:16] <gribouille> glitsj16, I just want to install the version that was previously on my system
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR open a terminal.. aplications,, accessories terminal
[12:16] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: metacity is default Wm for gnome
[12:16] <ne2k__> gribouille: is the package still in your /var/apt/cache?
[12:17] <ne2k__> gribouille: I mean /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:17] <gnomefreak> gribouille: apt-cache policy packagename
[12:17] <ReVoLveR> jack-sparrow: terminal is already open here. what do you want me to type there?
[12:17] <ne2k__> gribouille: you could install it manually if so
[12:17] <jrib> gribouille: apt-cache policy lirc   shows two packages here.  Is one of them, the one you want?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> if the version you want is there install it using = or synaptic
[12:17] <gribouille> ne2k__, no
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR metacity --replace                              to start
[12:17] <ne2k__> gribouille: I didn't ask you a question
[12:18] <ReVoLveR> The program 'metacity' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: are you using kde?
[12:19] <glitsj16> gribouille: 0.8.2 is only availbale in gutsy repo's .. might not be policy, but you can try changing your software sources for a moment (don't do any upgrades or other installs while you do this) and it might do the trick
[12:19] <ReVoLveR> I'm using Xubuntu
 gribouille: is the package still in your /var/apt/cache?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: thats why
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR type metacity --replace
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ReVoLveR: it uses xfvm or something along those lines
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR type compiz --replace
[12:19] <ReVoLveR> Jack_Sparrow:  thats the msg which came when I typed it.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: metacity isnt used in xfce
[12:20] <gribouille> glitsj16, but it was previously available for hardy, wasn't it ?
[12:20] <glitsj16> ReVoLveR: in that case --> xfwm4 --replace &
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry guys, just trying to wake up this am
[12:20] <gnomefreak> and compiz isnt installed or on by default in xfce
[12:21] <gnomefreak> i cant remember the exact reason or even if it has changed but IIRC hardy didnt use it in xubuntu
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gnomefreak did I miss something.. earlier he was asking how to kill it, then that he lost the window decorations so I had to assume he had it installed
[12:21] <ReVoLveR> Jack_Sparrow:  it said compiz isn't installed, shall I install it too?
[12:21] <FuRom> I have a Phillips GoGear SA60xx, and in the gnome-device-manager, it shows up as a storage device (which is good, because that's what it is), but I don't know how to access the device as just a directory. I've seen a couple of things that might possibly work for accessing the device, but I just need simple folder-based access to the device. It doesn't just show up in nautilus like my USB flash drive is, so, I'm really baffled about how to
[12:21] <gnomefreak> gribouille: once you update most of time the cache is cleared so you cant get it back unless you download it from external site and install using dpkg
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR earlier you asked how to kill it, why ask how to kill it if it was not installed in the first place
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: IIRC he didnt have boarders he wanted a fix for it
[12:22] <DeepThought> something´ s very wrong with my kde3; everuthing I try to do, every aPP i START, THESCREEN OF THE APP IN QUESTION GOES GRAY AND TAKES ABOUT A MINUTE TO RESPOND OR BE READY FOR INPUT.   wHAT COULD BE WRONG ?   iT STARTED AFTER INSTALLING KDE4.1 BETA; i REMOVED IT, BUT THE PROBLEM PERSISTS, MAYBE THERE´ S NO CENNECTION ANYWAY...
[12:22] <ReVoLveR> Jack_Sparrow:  I have no idea myself how this is happening :S
[12:22] <gribouille> gnomefreak, I'm looking for this external site
[12:22] <gnomefreak> DeepThought: lose the caps and try #kubuntu
[12:22] <gnomefreak> gribouille: i gave it to you
[12:23] <gribouille> gnomefreak, packages.ubuntu.com ?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> gribouille: what version of what package ar eyou looking for and why?
[12:23] <glitsj16> FuRom: hi there ;)
[12:23] <Zeester> does anyone know how to edit the context menu from gnome when i click rightmousebutton on my desktop?
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR the problem you describe is common when there is an error in a window decorator.  Have you tried to install and window decorations, effects or how things look etc
[12:23] <ozkelligirl> hi all
[12:23] <FuRom> gkutsj16, hi ^_^
[12:23] <gribouille> gnomefreak, I'm looking for lirc-0.8.2 for hardy
[12:23] <Baron1984> I think it makes sense, how shiny the Windows Vista disc is, makes it easier to spot when the system gets hosed and you need it again
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Zeester: maybe gconf
[12:23] <Tiand> ...........
[12:23] <FuRom> glitsj16, hi ^_^*
[12:23] <gnomefreak> gribouille: give me a minue
[12:23] <gnomefreak> minute
[12:23] <Tiand> hello everybody
[12:24] <Tiand> I am a fresh men
[12:24] <Zeester> gnomefreak, I checked it but i couldn't find it, I want to add a item in the menu (for a program I want to write)
[12:24] <ReVoLveR> Jack_Sparrow:  I have tried everything which you said and still its not working
[12:24] <ozkelligirl> what is the easiest distro to use?
[12:24] <jrib> gribouille: how are you certain the previos version was 0.8.2?
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR Please answer my last question
[12:24] <gnomefreak> gribouille: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/lirc
[12:24] <zaggynl> Baron1984: ghost/acronis image ftw
[12:24] <gnomefreak> gribouille: download the deb for your arch and install it
[12:24] <fxarch> glitsj16:  problem still persists. While following those steps I get this error;  flashplugin-nonfree depends on libflashsupport (>> 1.9-0ubuntu1) | libasound2-plugins (>= 1.0.16); however:
[12:24] <fxarch>   Package libflashsupport is not installed.
[12:24] <fxarch>   Package libasound2-plugins is not installed.
[12:24] <zaggynl> !pastebin
[12:25] <gnomefreak> fxarch: what are you doing?
[12:25] <gribouille> gnomefreak, I want lirc for hardy, not for gutsy
[12:25] <Baron1984> !vrms
[12:25] <ReVoLveR> Jack_Sparrow:  window decorators.. ummm I don't think I have
[12:25] <fxarch> gnomefreak:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 Part B.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> gribouille: you are not going to get that version for hardy install gutsys or learn to deal with the version you have
[12:25] <gribouille> jrib, what do you think it was ?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> fxarch: install libflashsupport and flashplugin-nonfree from https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+archive
[12:26] <jrib> gribouille: what the output of 'apt-cache policy lirc' tells me it was
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR What have you installed since the base initial installation
[12:26] <Baron1984> !pornview
[12:26] <gnomefreak> gribouille: you would have to rebuild it for hardy since its not in your cache
[12:26] <Baron1984> what happened to package search anyway?
[12:26] <glitsj16> ReVoLveR: Xubuntu has xfwm4 by default, try "xfwm4 --replace &"
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !find pornview
[12:26] <wols> Baron1984: package.ubuntu.com
[12:26] <wols> Baron1984: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:26] <gnomefreak> no such package in repos
[12:27] <ReVoLveR> Jack_Sparrow:  I haven't updated or installed anything for like a week, but this happened today only
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !info pornview
[12:27] <Baron1984> ahhh
[12:27] <ReVoLveR> glitsj16:  let me try
[12:27] <gnomefreak> atleast not here
[12:27] <fxarch> gnomefreak:  The problem was the fact that everything related to audio and firefox froze up randomly after some time.
[12:27] <Baron1984> !info vrms
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ReVoLveR I did not ask how long it has been since you installed anything.  You seem to avoid answering direct questions
[12:27] <wols> Baron1984: /msg ubottu info <foo>
[12:27] <gnomefreak> fxarch: flash 10 might not fix your issue but to fix the issue you have now it will fix installing the debs i have on the link i gave you.
[12:27] <Baron1984> @lart wols
[12:28] <gribouille> jrib, I don't care what the previous version was. Ubuntu updated lirc to a nexer version, and itoesn't work anymore. I it can't provide the version that was removed, it is just shit
[12:28] <gnomefreak> fxarch: if you are going to use ubuntuforums and have an issue with thier posts please try #ubuntuforums, since they gave the "fix"
[12:28] <Kartagis> jrib: is pygtk python-gtk2?
[12:28] <glitsj16> ReVoLveR: okay, plan B might be to restart your panel -- > xfce4-panel
[12:28] <gnomefreak> gribouille: file a bug on it so it can be fixed
[12:28] <camason> Anyone know if its possible to transfer windows from 1 X session to another? I have 2 screens with 2 sessions up
[12:29] <jrib> gribouille: ok, since you seem to have missed my question the first time.  Do you just want the previous version that is displayed when you run the apt-cache policy command?
[12:29] <gribouille> jrib, I don't care what the previous version was. Ubuntu updated lirc to a newer version, and it doesn't work anymore. If it can't provide the version that was removed, it is just shit
[12:29] <Pici> gribouille: Please watch the language in here.
[12:29] <jrib> gribouille: is that a yes or a no?
[12:30] <lavidaLoca> holas
[12:30] <fxarch> gnomefreak:  well according to glitsj16 the problem of those random crashes could be caused by flash. However I'm open for other suggestions.
[12:30] <glitsj16> gribouille: it's a user community: file a bug and at least give developers achance to correct it, they might not know
[12:30] <Dedi> anyone an idea how i could make numlock-key as modifierkey? :D
[12:30] <gribouille> jrib, if it is the version that was removed, then it is yes
[12:30] <gnomefreak> fxarch: yes flash but i said may not be fixed in flash 10
[12:30] <lavidaLoca> can i make bigger swap disk space now after ubuntu is installed?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> fxarch: not all crashes were fixed and hoestly only a few were fixed
[12:30] <jrib> gribouille: sudo apt-get install lirc=VERSION   where VERSION is the version string you get with the 'apt-cache policy lirc' command.  Do file bugs please, as that helps everyone
[12:31] <fxarch> gnomefreak:  so any other suggestions? Problem didn't occure to me on those 7.10 distros
[12:31] <lavidaLoca> so any suggestion how to make swap space bigger?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> fxarch: install 10 see if it helps if not file a bug upstream at adobe on it
[12:31] <ozkelligirl> what is ubuntu8.04 like?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ozkelligirl: like 7.10 only newer
[12:32] <fxarch> gnoemfreak:  Will do. Thanks for your time
[12:32] <lavidaLoca> ozkelligirl: its beautifull
[12:32] <glitsj16> lavidaLoca: you might wanna look into gparted
[12:32] <ozkelligirl> how hard is it to update from 7.10
[12:32] <gnomefreak> lavidaLoca: as i recall you can make swap bigger but you are risking screwing everything up
[12:32] <DeepThought> gnomefreak: sorry about the caps; totally non-intentional; also, I was trying to get to kubuntu, but because of the bug I mentioned things ended up in wrong channel wrong way without me even getting any feedback on it; took me this long to trace back to your message that popped up through the clogging-up...   sorry !   am trying again on kubuntu now...
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ozkelligirl: update-manager
[12:33] <huii> hi
[12:33] <lavidaLoca> glitsj16, is it installed or i must download that package?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ozkelligirl: run that command you will see upgrade option
[12:33] <huii> !botsnack
[12:33] <mgallagh> is there a way to get clonezilla running on a ubuntu ltsp server
[12:33] <glitsj16> lavidaLoca: that's installed, i think the menu item is "partition editor"
[12:33] <huii> !poetugese
[12:34] <Pici> !pt | huii
[12:34] <huii> !portugese
[12:34]  * gnomefreak has to get moving or nothing will get done
[12:34] <huii> !deutsch
[12:34] <ozkelligirl> nil to update
[12:34] <lavidaLoca> glitsj16,  it want but now its installed ;)
[12:34] <Kartagis> jrib: is pygtk python-gtk2? apt-cache search pygtk returns no results
[12:34] <jrib> Kartagis: yes
[12:34] <conrad_> this is one of the few things i seriously hate about ubuntu, everything works 100%, i'm ready for a productive day, and then BOOM, something important breaks and I have to spend all day trying to fix it
[12:35] <KOJV> How do I install Ubuntu from an USB device?
[12:35] <wols> !usb install
[12:35] <KOJV> !install usb
[12:35] <Pici> !usb
[12:35] <atlef> !install
[12:35] <huii> !usb
[12:36] <Pici> huii: Do you have a support question?
[12:36] <malebria> Hello, I've made a change to a package download with apt-get source, and build it with dpkg-buildpackge -rfakeroot -uc -b.
[12:36] <xlq> The Ubuntu Update Manager - does it show *all* available updates, or only updates for packages that are already installed?
[12:37] <malebria> It was builded with the same version (and revision) of the original package, and aptitude wants to update (?) to the original package.
[12:37] <sipior> i believe there is a way to get a listing of all the factoids ubottu knows. perhaps the ops could add this to the channel title?
[12:37] <lavidaLoca> glitsj16, huh i have no idea how to make it bigger, can u help me
[12:37] <huii> Pici, no just showing a friend IRC-channels
[12:37] <malebria> How can I make a package with a newer revision?
[12:37] <huii> byebye
[12:38] <Pici> xlq: Only the updates for packages you already have installed.
[12:38] <glitsj16> lavidaLoca: pm me, we'll see if 4 left hands can do it lol
[12:38] <xlq> Pici: ok, as I thought.
[12:39] <erUSUL> !ubottu | sipior
[12:39] <sipior> erUSUL: why are you wasting my time?
[12:40] <erUSUL> sipior: Pici ouch there is no "you can search my brains at ..."
[12:40] <Pici> erUSUL: I know, and I wish there was.
[12:40] <erUSUL> sipior: ubotu used to have "You can search my brains at <url>" on that factoid ...
[12:40] <ozkelligirl> what program can i use to swap pics with a person using windows(yak)
[12:41] <erUSUL> Pici: :-/
[12:41] <sipior> erUSUL: ah well. perhaps something to add when ubotu gets back...
[12:41] <Pici> erUSUL: fixing now...
[12:41] <Pici> sipior: http://jussi01.com/web/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <gd1> hi, does anybody know an acceptable OCR program for Ubuntu, even closed source, even commercial, even for Windows to be run under wine
[12:41] <erUSUL> Pici: thanks :)
[12:41] <cnajhqohfq> hi.
[12:42] <sipior> Pici: i wasn't interested for myself, i merely thought it would be useful to put a link in the channel title for newcomers.
[12:42] <gd1> I need it otherwise I'll be forced to downgrade to Windows
[12:42] <mgallagh> is there a way to get clonezilla running on a ubuntu ltsp server? lstp just seems to override it
[12:42] <ozkelligirl> help help help how can i send pics to a windows user other then by mail
[12:42] <sipior> Pici: save us a small bit of factoid noise, maybe :-)
[12:43] <scribawf> Can I delete earlier (Kernals) from my Grub Menu i.e <IP_ADDRESS> as I presently have <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[12:43] <cnajhqohfq> i need to install ubuntu generic kernel on a fresh ubuntu hardy server. but with the generic kernel, the OS will not start. How can I make the generic kernel work? Or at leash can I modify the kernel frequency without recompiling?
[12:44] <Kartagis> when will the new version vinagre be in repos?
[12:45] <sipior> scribawf: actually, removing the old kernel packages should delete those entries as well
[12:45] <wols> cnajhqohfq: not possible to change kernel freq. but that's not keeping the kernel from working properly
[12:45] <jrib> !timebasedreleases > Kartagis (read the private message from ubottu)
[12:45] <jrib> !backport > Kartagis (read the private message from ubottu)
[12:45] <sipior> scribawf: just make sure you remove the correct version ;-)
[12:46] <scribawf> sipior:  so that indicates deleting my earlier kernerls up to the latest is OK?
[12:46] <cnajhqohfq> wols, i have an application which requires higher kernel frequencies (works best with kernel generic). i need to do this :)
[12:46] <wols> cnajhqohfq: then you have to recompile
[12:46] <sipior> scribawf: i generally like to keep the most immediately previous kernel version around, in case there are problems
[12:47] <cnajhqohfq> wols, i recompiled with the only modifications being the kernel freq and processor type, and it didn't boot up. Then I tried installing the kernel generic, and it didn't boot up.
[12:47] <wols> cnajhqohfq: so fix that problem first
[12:47] <Kanel-Freezy> Hi
[12:48] <Kanel-Freezy> I've got a problem with my graphich card
[12:48] <Kanel-Freezy> I want to install a driver for it...
[12:48] <scribawf> sipior:  Thank You,  then think will probably delete up to <IP_ADDRESS> - that's my plan
[12:48] <Kanel-Freezy> I use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-02330ccb580b6a9411d32bf617cc5a82116ba6b9
[12:49] <Kanel-Freezy> but htis happens: http://pastebin.se/194859
[12:49] <cnajhqohfq> wols, generic kernel should be able to work with fresh gutsy server installation, right?
[12:49] <dabbill> i just downloaded the blackchrome theme for my startup. The splash screen works perfect, but how do i change the text? so that its readable?
[12:49] <Kartagis> when was hardy released?
[12:49] <pecisk> FF3 C1 is like day compare to night with FF3 b5
[12:50] <atlef> !release
[12:51] <cnajhqohfq> i'll rephrase. i installed the generic kernel within a fresh gutsy server (with apt-get install [...]). the OS will not boot up with the other kernel. How can I use the generic kernel with gutsy-server? what must I do? :)
[12:51] <dabbill> i have a .so file for the startup text for my blackchrome theme, how do i install it for the startup text?
[12:52] <kate321> Hello, I need help please , if i upload file at 20 Kb/sec , how much time its will take me upload file of 1 giga to server ?
[12:52]  * Exteris is Away, Reason: ( (cake!) ) | Since: ( Monday, June 9, 2008. 16:18:39 ) Xlack v2.1
[12:52] <RabidWeezle> let's get some screenshots of those desktops whipped up, I wanna see some cool desktops ^_^
[12:52] <sipior> kate321: a good long while
[12:53] <jeed> kate321, alot
[12:53] <RabidWeezle> http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b154/Xana-Melissa/screenies/Screenshot-2.png here's mine ^_^
[12:53] <dabbill> http://dabbill.no-ip.info/Pictures/Screenshot7.png
[12:53] <RabidWeezle> ooh
[12:53] <kate321> jeed: how much time its will take me to upload 1 giga at 20 kb/s ?
[12:53] <nootrope> I'm using jedit as an editor. how do i launch it with su rights sometimes. looks like i have to create two profiles for it, one as lowly user and the other as a superuser? how do folks configure their editors for development if the editors support plugins etc that set themselves up in the user's home directory?
[12:53] <RabidWeezle> very nice silvery
[12:54] <RabidWeezle> and I see you got wow working good with wine
[12:54] <iez> fggfg
[12:54] <RabidWeezle> nice
[12:54] <jeed> kate321, 10 hourish
[12:54] <Kryptt> How do i open the file manager whit root?
[12:54] <pengo> why don't "negative" or "color filter" work for me in compiz? (intel 965)
[12:54] <dabbill> http://dabbill.no-ip.info/Pictures/wowcube.png
[12:55] <cnajhqohfq> where should i go if noone is able to help me with the question i asked in my previous reply? any other IRC suggestion? :)
[12:55] <RabidWeezle> and ventrillo too ehh?
[12:55] <OrcKhsu> Kryptt: gksu nautilus/thunar
[12:55] <simontzu> Hi Am new to IRC and new to ubuntu.  I broke my system (8.04) by trying to uninstall evolution. Now there is no panel when I log-in and alt-f2 doesn't work either. Am trying to fix it via the live CD but struggling - how to I run apt-get or synaptic on my home directory...from the live CD? tried "chown root /mnt/38.5\ GB\ Media" from the command line but it says that drive does not exist.  Very reluctant to reinstall...
[12:55] <RabidWeezle> ooh, cool
[12:55] <dabbill> RabidWeezle, ventrillo and ventrillo server
[12:56] <RabidWeezle> very good job there
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Kryptt Use that command with caution.. it is not forgiving when you make a mistake
[12:56] <RabidWeezle> I know some apps are a pain to setup in wine
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> pengo you might try /join #compiz   for help with individual effects
[12:57] <derspankster> Has anyone had any experience with a stardot wincam live? I had it working in Feisty then it quit and I've never been able to get it to work again. I ran it with Wine. Now, the camera can't communicate with the computer.
[12:57] <RabidWeezle> is that official or free server Dabbill?
[12:57] <pengo> Jack_Sparrow: ta
[12:57] <pengo> /join #compiz
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:57] <pengo> bah
[12:57] <zoople> hi room
[12:57] <RabidWeezle> hi
[12:57] <zoople> quick noob question if i may....?
[12:57] <dabbill> RabidWeezle, for vent?
[12:57] <heinrich> how setup my Asus 8600GT video card on 4.08?
[12:57] <zoople> how do i get a program to load on startup?
[12:58] <RabidWeezle> for wow
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[12:58] <bobbers> quick question guys I am trying to upgrade from edgy and on all the security and archive mirrors there seems to be no "edgy" release? Is this a temporary thing or am I missing something?
[12:58] <RabidWeezle> there's alot of people playing the free ones
[12:58] <WaaQ> is there any reason why a default install of ubuntu would not let me ssh in ?
[12:58] <WaaQ> after install ssh
[12:58] <glitsj16> cnajhqohfq: is the generic kernel fully installed ? if so, try to manually adjust your /boot/grub/menu.list .. is that an option ?
[12:58] <sipior> WaaQ: is openssh-server installed?
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> WaaQ I dont do ssh.. but have you read the tutorial factoid
[12:58] <rampageoberon> !boot
[12:58] <RabidWeezle> You know, I can never get compiz to make a proper screenshot
[12:58] <WaaQ> yep and running
[12:59] <RabidWeezle> it always borks on me
[12:59] <sipior> WaaQ: you have any sort of firewall configured?
[12:59] <pengo> RabidWeezle: i never tried, but recordmydesktop will make a screencast of compiz ok
[12:59] <WaaQ> no. default install
[12:59] <WaaQ> no router
[12:59] <RabidWeezle> ahh, nice
[12:59] <pengo> RabidWeezle: i never tried a screenshot that is
[12:59] <bobbers> to put that clearer http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy or http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy don't seem to exist? Is that right? What happened to edgy?
[12:59] <sipior> WaaQ: and the network interface is up and working normally?
[12:59] <WaaQ> yep
[12:59] <cnajhqohfq> glitsj16, the generic kernel is installed with apt-get install linux-[...]. menu.lst is modified auto by the 'package maintainer'
[12:59] <dabbill> i have a .so file for the startup text for my blackchrome theme, how do i install it for the startup text?
[12:59] <RabidWeezle> I just use print screen
[13:00] <RabidWeezle> and it messes up in compiz pretty hardcore
[13:00] <mohrtutchy> ubottu: it's not possible to do this by editing a text file?
[13:00] <Jack_Sparrow> dabbill You mean in the grub menu
[13:00] <sipior> WaaQ: what sort of machine are you trying to connect with?
[13:00] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: what error message do you get? and how are you trying to ssh in?
[13:00] <cnajhqohfq> glitsj16, i made no other modifications after apt-get install (with su) and reboot
[13:00] <RabidWeezle> I got a nice skybox though for my compiz
[13:00] <sipior> WaaQ: also, try ssh -v -v
[13:00] <dabbill> Jack_Sparrow, the startup text on the splash screen
[13:00] <RabidWeezle> it's from unreal 4, like a panoramic shot of a map
[13:01] <WaaQ> yes sipior
[13:01] <glitsj16> cnajhqohfq: okay, are we talking about a move from 2.6.24-18-generic to 19 ?
[13:01] <BeBoBli> I have a second monitor and it's being detected as a clone...
[13:01] <bobbers> can someone try going to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ and see if edgy is there for them?
[13:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[13:01] <WaaQ> sipior: it just times out doesnt do anything
[13:02] <cnajhqohfq> glitsj16 no, moving prom 2.6.24-18-server to 2.6.24-18-generic
[13:02] <grobda24> RabidWeezle: link ?
[13:02] <sipior> WaaQ: even with the verbose switch turned on?
[13:02] <cnajhqohfq> glitsj16 no, moving from 2.6.24-18-server to 2.6.24-18-generic (sorry for previous typo)
[13:02] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: what error message do you get? and how are you trying to ssh in?
[13:02] <steve234959444> how do i load licensed Windows DLLs in wine ?
[13:02] <dabbill> Jack_Sparrow, i am useing the startup-manager for the splash screen will that mess any thing up?
[13:02] <jeed> bobbers, its not
[13:02] <WaaQ> non it jsut hangs
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dabbill http://www.ubuntugeek.com/startup-manager-change-settings-in-grub-grub2-and-usplash.html
[13:03] <WaaQ> rampageoberon: non it jsut hangs
[13:03] <bobbers> jeed: thanks
[13:03] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: run nmap localhost -p 22 and tell us what you get
[13:03] <dabbill> Jack_Sparrow, thanks thats what i was looking for i think heh will give that page a look at
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:03] <RabidWeezle> steve234959444, basically you stick em in your ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32 or whatever folder and goto winecfg and setup the app to use the native dll...
[13:03] <steve234959444> ill ask in #wine as well
[13:03] <bobbers> does anyone know how I upgrade from edgy? As its not in the dists of the mirrors?
[13:04] <glitsj16> cnajhqohfq: should be doable manually, can i pm you ?
[13:04] <WaaQ> rampageoberon: bash: localhost: command not found
[13:04] <WaaQ> oh wait
[13:04] <cnajhqohfq> glitsj16 yes, please
[13:04] <steve234959444> how do i load licensed Windows DLLs in wine ?
[13:04] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: nmap localhost -p 22
[13:04] <RabidWeezle> I just said...
[13:04] <RabidWeezle> steve234959444, basically you stick em in your ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32 or whatever folder and goto winecfg and setup the app to use the native dll...
[13:05] <BeBoBli> Does Ubuntu work with multiple monitors at boot? It doesn't seem to be treating my second monitor as anything but a clone...
[13:05] <steve234959444> thank!!
[13:05] <RabidWeezle> no problem
[13:05] <dabbill> Jack_Sparrow, i cant find how to change the startup text color or add the blackchrometext.so file
[13:05] <WaaQ> PORT   STATE SERVICE
[13:05] <WaaQ> 22/tcp open  ssh
[13:05] <WaaQ> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.042 seconds
[13:05] <WaaQ> for my ip rampageoberon
[13:05] <RabidWeezle> !colors
[13:06] <Jack_Sparrow> dabbill Sorry, I dont play with those much.. If you read that page, you know as much as I do
[13:06] <RabidWeezle> anyone know how to set tty colors?
[13:06] <dabbill> Jack_Sparrow, ahh okay heh
[13:06] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: what does the command "ssh localhost" do
[13:06] <WaaQ> Starting Nmap 4.53 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2008-06-11 13:06 BST
[13:06] <WaaQ> Interesting ports on d36-17-26.home1.cgocable.net (<IP_ADDRESS>):
[13:06] <WaaQ> PORT   STATE    SERVICE
[13:06] <WaaQ> 22/tcp filtered ssh
[13:06] <WaaQ> for hers
[13:06] <sipior> WaaQ: i assume you can login using the same username on the local machine?
[13:06] <RabidWeezle> I wanna setup my tty like my old sun workstation of white background, black text...
[13:06] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: ok, so you have a firewall that is blocking ssh
[13:06] <WaaQ> rampageoberon: i can conncet to myself fine
[13:06] <WaaQ> and other computers
[13:06] <Pici> !paste | WaaQ
[13:07] <WaaQ> im changing the port rampageoberon
[13:07] <simontzu> Fixing broken packages when I cannot get a terminal or start synaptic from my regular install?? (tried uninstalling evolution and now installation has no panels & alt-f2 doesn't work). How do I login to my home dir via the live CD??
[13:07] <Wyvern|> How does e2fsck fare with large disks? It seems to take forever on my 3TB ext3 partition, any tips to improve its performance?
[13:07] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: have you done any firewall configurations? ufw or the like?
[13:07] <RabidWeezle> simontzu, can you ctrl+alt+f1 on the machine?
[13:07] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: so sudo iptables -L and post in a pastebin
[13:07] <WaaQ> i may have
[13:08] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: that is the problem, the firewall config that you have done
[13:08] <RabidWeezle> simontzu, and if you can't, can you ssh into the box?
[13:08] <WaaQ> rampageoberon: awesome, now im getting connection refused errors (which is way better)
[13:08] <WaaQ> thanks folks - rampageoberon  - fixed it
[13:09] <WaaQ> :S
[13:09] <RabidWeezle> simontzu, btw, if you ctrl+alt+f1, it's ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X
[13:09] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: firewall?
[13:09] <simontzu> RabidWeezle: I've not tried either!  Good ideas - thanks!!
[13:09] <WaaQ> yeah...
[13:09] <WaaQ> i only allow it out on a certain port ... I forgot
[13:09] <RabidWeezle> np
[13:10] <bobbers> Is it the case that edgy is now no longer supported so if you are on Edgy you can't update it and you can't upgrade it anymore?
[13:10] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: no wonder, and by default there are no open ports so i don't see why you need to do that
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bobbers yes, that is true
[13:10] <sipior> WaaQ: so when i asked you if you had a firewall configured...and you said no...what did you mean by that, exactly? ;-)
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[13:10] <bobbers> so I _have_ to reinstall from from scratch
[13:10] <rampageoberon> WaaQ: and also outgoing connections on all ports are usually allowed by default
[13:10] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow: hi, i reinstalled ubuntu yesterday and the problem so far hasnt reared its ugly head
[13:10] <Beirdo> Jack_Sparrow: you can still upgrade from it easily enough
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bobbers you can save /home
[13:10] <bobbers> I mean there is no update path
[13:11] <Pici> bobbers: you can upgrade to feisty...
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Beirdo distro-upgrade
[13:11] <Wyvern|> have anyone here used e2fsck (or fsck.ext3) on a large ext3 partition?
[13:11] <bobbers> pici: acn you give me any help as to how?
[13:11] <Pici> !upgrade | bobbers just read this
[13:11] <RabidWeezle> bobbers, how much ram you got in the system? Cause since edgy, graphical installs require 384 megs of ram from cd, and alternative installs still work for lower rams
[13:11] <Beirdo> bobbers: sure there is.  edit /etc/apt/sources, change all edgy to feisty, apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:11] <dabbill> http://dabbill.no-ip.info/Pictures/Screenshot-5.png shows off my transparent menus :)
[13:11] <bobbers> beirdo thanks very much! You're a star
[13:11] <bobbers> I'll try that
[13:12] <Beirdo> bobbers: read the URL Pici pointed you at too :0
[13:12]  * RabidWeezle slaps Beirdo 5 for the good answer
[13:12] <RabidWeezle> I wouldn't have even though about that one
[13:12] <nootrope> is there a Quicksilver/Launchy-likeapp for Linux?
[13:12] <bobbers> beirdo pici: I tried the instructions from there and it tries to use the Edgy dist from the mirror and therefore gets 404 errors
[13:12] <Brad7200> hey im trying to play flash games on gamefudge.com but my controls wont work
[13:12] <RabidWeezle> what does quicksilver/launchy do?
[13:12] <bobbers> I'll try changing to the feisty sources file
[13:12] <Beirdo> heh, I've upgraded one of the boxes from warty up to gutsy that way :)
[13:13] <Brad7200> its like flash games cant see my keyboard
[13:13] <Beirdo> one distro at a time
[13:13] <atlef> nootrope: gnome-do
[13:13] <nootrope> atlef, thanks!
[13:13] <Brad7200> can ne1 help me
[13:13] <bobbers> beirdo: ok I totally agree you can I just can't make it work without a dist to download from but of course if I change my sources file to feisty I can see how that would work
[13:13] <RabidWeezle> Brad, you talking firefox flash games?
[13:13] <bobbers> thanks for your help I'll try that now
[13:13] <Brad7200> yes
[13:14] <Beirdo> bobbers: no problem.  Good luck, it will take a while :)
[13:14] <RabidWeezle> did you install macromedia's flash into the browser or another type of flash plugin?
[13:14] <bobbers> beirdo :) no worries :)
[13:14] <Brad7200> RabidWeezle: macromedia 10
[13:14] <RabidWeezle> try holding your mouse inside the flash window
[13:16] <nootrope> how do i suppress joined/left messages in xChat?
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> nootrope right click the channel
[13:16] <ec_al> Hi guys.. Looking to get a PCI wireless network card.. any suggestions
[13:17] <sortudo_78> Problems with XDMCP trought internet, Please, where can i find help for fawarding XDMCP ?
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ec_al Tell people what hardware you have
[13:18] <FuRom> How do I access a gogear SA60xx as a mass storage device? I have usbmount installed, and it doesn't mount it as a mass storage device. I can access the device with MTP (Media Transfer Protocol), but I have more than just MP3 files on the device, so MTP doesn't pan out too well. The device will work as a mass storage device, I just don't know how to make ubuntu opt for mass storage over MTP.
[13:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ec_al   if you do "sudo lshw -C network" in a terminal it will show the card/chipset
[13:19] <ec_al> Jack_Sparrow: I'm looking for a recommendation, actually :) I want to buy one
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[13:19] <nootrope> Jack_Sparrow, i meant xchat-gnome. all I get when i right-click on the channel is: Save Transcript, Leave, Close, Auto-join on connect,  Find, and Bans
[13:19] <nootrope> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps xchat is different?
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> nootrope Sorry, never used that one...   People seem to prefer the regular version
[13:20] <nootrope> Jack_Sparrow, thanks!
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:20] <sortudo_78> please, anybody is reading me, i need help with XDMCP ???
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sortudo_78 Yes we see your question, but no one seems to have the answer
[13:21] <Win2Ubuntu> Hi all, Ubuntu seems a bit unstable and does seem to freeze up alot. I'm thinking of making a larger swap partition, how would i go about doing this?
[13:21] <sortudo_78> thanks Jack?
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:21] <rampageoberon> Win2Ubuntu: just out of curiosity how much ram and swap do you have currently
[13:21] <Win2Ubuntu> 2 gig swap
[13:21] <Win2Ubuntu> ram...unsure
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu use gparted to shrink the adjacent partition and expand your swap.. how much ram etc..
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu what version of ubuntu are you running
[13:22] <rampageoberon> Win2Ubuntu: do "free -m" and paste the output in a pastebin
[13:22] <Win2Ubuntu> the latest one 8.04
[13:22] <bobbers> beirdo: well it appears to be running, you never know...
[13:22] <Win2Ubuntu> rampageoberon:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[13:22] <Win2Ubuntu> Mem:           502        494          7          0         13        271
[13:22] <Win2Ubuntu> -/+ buffers/cache:        209        293
[13:22] <Win2Ubuntu> Swap:         1474          0       1474
[13:22] <sortudo_78> please, there is any X server irc chat room ?
[13:23] <Win2Ubuntu> ive run ubuntu fine in other versions, but i had a bigger swap file, so thats why i thought do to this
[13:23] <Wyvern|> uhm, is it possible to see which processes is accessing a specific resource, such as a disk mount point?
[13:24] <rampageoberon> Win2Ubuntu: okay thats 512mb ram, of which 209 is being used. In my opinion the current setup should be okay, but to increase swap space do what Jack_Sparrow said (use gparted)
[13:24] <Wyvern|> Trying to unmount my home directory proves difficult as I have no clue which process is using it.
[13:24] <Win2Ubuntu> ok, thanks all, will give that a go
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu no need to increase swap, I doubt that is the prob
[13:24] <Win2Ubuntu> righto, any advice in that case Jack_Sparrow?
[13:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Wyvern| Are you trying to unmount /home from a live cd or while you are trying to use it
[13:25] <rampageoberon> Win2Ubuntu: maybe if you tell us which applications or what instability you are referring to
[13:25] <Wyvern|> I have /home mounted on a md array, which I need to unmount.
[13:25] <Win2Ubuntu> oh, it seems that the only app that DOESNT freeze is pidgin
[13:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu Perhaps check dmesg logs ,
[13:26] <Win2Ubuntu> eg, all programs will not open
[13:26] <BonezAU> punyhuman: yeah have a look
[13:26] <Wyvern|> I have killed all obvious processes, such as apache, samba, etc.
[13:26] <Win2Ubuntu> or will open and freeze
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu HAve you tried turning off effects.. just in case
[13:26] <BonezAU> punyhuman, blah blah - i don't know how to fix it, sorry mate
[13:26] <Win2Ubuntu> btw....gparted is not allowing me to change sizes, i did run it with sudo
[13:26] <Win2Ubuntu> im thinking of doing this next (effets)
[13:26] <Win2Ubuntu> but i <3 my avn dock lol
[13:26] <rampageoberon> Win2Ubuntu: download gparted live cd and boot with that
[13:27] <BonezAU> punyhuman, lol. what are you talking about?
[13:27] <BonezAU> punyhuman, r u crazy?
[13:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu you need to run live cd if you want to resize your ubuntu partition
[13:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu gparted live is a good choice
[13:27] <Win2Ubuntu> ah ok, will do next boot :)
[13:27] <Win2Ubuntu> thanks guys
[13:27] <BonezAU> punyhuman, are you feeling ok?
[13:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu what programs open and close on you.
[13:28] <Win2Ubuntu> oh nothing closes
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu if you run from terminal it might show you the error
[13:28] <Win2Ubuntu> no actually it doesnt
[13:28] <Win2Ubuntu> ie, ill type in a command and it will simply stall
[13:28] <punyhuman> bonezau, tis ok... sorted
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu open and freeze
[13:28] <BonezAU> punyhuman, are u sure?
[13:28] <koshari> rampageoberon ubuntu is a live gparted disc
[13:28] <BonezAU> punyhuman, you don't sound too confident
[13:28] <Win2Ubuntu> it could be that i perhaps install something
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu if  this is a fresh install I would suggest a reinstall, something is very wrong
[13:29] <Win2Ubuntu> righto, good avice, thanks :)
[13:29] <rampageoberon> koshari: sorry? i'm a bit confused by that, please explain
[13:29] <Win2Ubuntu> ill do that after exams
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu did you install things manually.. if so like what
[13:29] <Win2Ubuntu> yeah, a few things
[13:29] <Win2Ubuntu> AVN, pdigin
[13:29] <Win2Ubuntu> xchat :-p
[13:30] <koshari> rampageoberon the ubuntu live cd has gpated installed by default. so if one has that they dont need the grapted live cd to use gparted
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu those can be installed from the repos, did you try and build from source?
[13:30] <Win2Ubuntu> oh no, i dont build things from source
[13:30] <Win2Ubuntu> i just get the from the repos
[13:30] <Win2Ubuntu> sorry if im a bit dull hahaha
[13:31] <rampageoberon> koshari: ah i see, i usually tend to use the gparted live cd, but this info will be useful. thanks :)
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> koshari The gparted livecd in some cases works better and is cleaner that gparted on the ubuntu livecd
[13:31] <Win2Ubuntu> ill reinstall :)
[13:31] <koshari> Jack_Sparrow i agree, i generally use the gparted live disc with partimage
[13:31] <rampageoberon> its a shame that the gparted live cd is no longer maintained (not sure if it is now)
[13:31] <Win2Ubuntu> thanks for ure tips
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Win2Ubuntu if you didnt change sources and only use our repos then that is unlikely to be the problem
[13:32] <koshari> however the live version is fine 95 % of the time
[13:32] <Win2Ubuntu> righto. might well be the flash gui stuff
[13:32] <Jack_Sparrow> koshari Yes, it is certainly worth the 50 meg dl
[13:32] <Win2Ubuntu> but, i will give it some thought and see what i find :-D
[13:32] <BonezAU> hi, i accidently deleted /etc/init.d/networking and now i can't browse the web. my IRC works ok though. Can anyone pls help?
[13:32] <Win2Ubuntu> kind regards ppl
[13:33] <BonezAU> Cancel that, I got the file back and now firefox is working
[13:33] <koshari> Jack_Sparrow i did fine that gparted wouldnt sdee some sata drives on a sys once where the ubuntu hal did
[13:33] <ArrowLance> hi, when i startup and grub shows me the OS's to pick from i see 3 ubuntu's a new one each time i update ubuntu. How can i get rid of those?
[13:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[13:33] <rampageoberon> ArrowLance: install startupmanager and do it in there (limit kernals to say 2)
[13:34] <rampageoberon> ArrowLance: sudo aptitude install startupmanager
[13:34] <nootrope> Is there an auto-ident function in xChat?
[13:34] <punyhuman> Hi, I accidently deleted /home/brian/pron can someone please tell me how to restore it? It's my dad's work folder
[13:35] <ArrowLance> lol
[13:35] <BonezAU> lol @ punyhuman
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> rampageoberon I see the latest release of gparted as Dec 2007
[13:35] <wols> nootrope: no but there are identd servers in ubuntu
[13:35] <BonezAU> punyhuman, how did you delete it? through the command line or through your window manager?
[13:35] <wols> punyhuman: is it ext3?
[13:36] <rampageoberon> Jack_Sparrow: yeah 0.3.4-11, i read somewhere that the person maintaining it didn't have the time and was looking for a replacement but didn't find anyone, so no newer livecd's were going to be released
[13:37] <nootrope> wols, not sure how to use that info... any pointer?
[13:37] <rampageoberon> Jack_Sparrow: actually just reading the news again, someone did take over on 8th april :)
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> great
[13:37] <nootrope> wols, never mind i'll ask the google
[13:37] <nootrope> wols, thanks!
[13:39] <koshari> whats the ubuntu chat irc
[13:39] <rampageoberon> Jack_Sparrow: will there be much difference now that its going to be based on debian? or negligible?
[13:39] <willluongo> Hello, this may seem like a stupid question, but after installing kernel 2.6.24-18-generic, can I just change the number 17 in kernel 2.6.24-17-generic to 18 so grub will load the newest kernel?
[13:39] <wols> willluongo: you can but you shouldn't have to
[13:40] <recon69> hi all, my CPU is running at a steady 80% with nothing running and cant see any process listed that is actually using the cpu that much?
[13:40] <ZeroA4> willluongo, it is better to edit the grub config at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:40] <wols> recon69: top. pastebin its output
[13:40]  * RabidWeezle sips some vitamin water
[13:41] <willluongo> wols and ZeroA4: I am sorry I think I miscommunicated... I meant can I change it in menu.lst to 18 or do I need to change any of the following information
[13:41] <RabidWeezle> recon69, gnome or kde?
[13:41] <BonezAU> willluongo, when you installed the new kernel it should have automatically updated your grub config
[13:41] <RabidWeezle> you can sort by cpu on the gnome-system-monitor recon69
[13:42] <RabidWeezle> and it tells you what's eatin your cpu up
[13:42] <recon69> RabidWeezle: gnome
[13:42] <wols> or with top which wokrs everywhere. even whent here is no X
[13:42] <BonezAU> willluongo, run update manager from gnome, press check and let it install all required updates, then reboot
[13:42] <willluongo> BonezAU : I had a custom list, and it asked me if I wanted to use the maintainer version or my local version
[13:42] <Dedi> can i add custon dcop commands to gnome global shortcuts?
[13:42] <RabidWeezle> alright, load up gnome-system-monitor and all will be revealed
[13:42] <willluongo> It is already installed, just not selectable from the boot menu
[13:42] <BonezAU> willluongo, ok then if you aren't too confident with the command line you could try sudo apt-get install qgrubeditor, that is a graphical interface for editing your grub config
[13:43] <BonezAU> willluongo, but be careful
[13:43] <RabidWeezle> wols, I like top in terminal, but I'm a big fan of gnome-system-monitor for easy-to-readness
[13:44] <recon69> RabidWeezle: looking at it, the only thing not sleeping is the system monitor , and when i look at the cpu graph it spikes to 80-90% usage, when an not looking it seem to drop
[13:44] <rampageoberon> recon69: i've had that type of trouble occasionally with gnome, firefox, xorg, gnome-system-monitor all known to take up 100% CPU
[13:44] <simontzu> RabidWeezle: I fixed my system..checked the dpkg log and it was as easy as "apt-get install gnome-panel".  Dude you have no idea how grateful I am!!  I spent 5 hours this morning trying to figure out how to get to a commandline without alt+f2 working via the live CD etc..etc....  crtl+alt+f1 is not mentioned in the Ubuntu documentation, maybe its obvious for longtime linux users but I searched online for ages and couldn't find it. .  I was considering a r
[13:44] <willluongo> BOnezAU I am good with CLI, I just wanted to know if all I had to do was change the 7 in 17 to 8 to make it boot 18. :)
[13:44] <rampageoberon> recon69: yes system-monitor does that
[13:45] <DaPutzy> sagmal wollt ihr mich verarschen??
[13:45] <willluongo> For example in the line:    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-17-generic root=UUID=9996891d-ef11-4aa0-901d-f9084e349ed9 ro quiet splash can I just make it say kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic root=UUID=9996891d-ef11-4aa0-901d-f9084e349ed9 ro quiet splash
[13:45] <rampageoberon> recon69: i suggest using htop from command line instead of system monitor at times
[13:45] <DaPutzy> jetz gehts wieder?!
[13:45] <RabidWeezle> simontzu, glad I could help
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !de
[13:45] <koshari> simontzu cont alt f1 changes the run levewl
[13:46] <BonezAU> willluongo, i would not try that if i were u. you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kernel-2.6.24-17-generic and this time when it asks you to keep current config select no
[13:46] <RabidWeezle> ctrl+alt+f1 changes to tty1...
[13:46] <willluongo> BonezAU: Will that lose my ability to boot into other OS?
[13:47] <BonezAU> willluongo, no
[13:47] <Amys> huh
[13:48] <recon69> well, I guess I will live with it a while and see if it keep happening
[13:48] <adred> hi, im downloading jdk5 right now but there's one package that has been skipped cos my connection went out for a while. will synaptic automatically go back and download the skipped/missing package?
[13:48] <ikonia> adred: if it's a dependency - yes
[13:49] <adred> ikonia thanks, it think it is. actually its the JRE-the biggest file that has been skipped..
[13:50] <recon69> using htop seem i get avg 13% cpu usage, which seem right , thx
[13:51] <jarco> Hello all. I have a question: When i connect with my ubuntu to a windows share on my xp i can upload files to windows only extremely slow. What might be the cause of this?
[13:52] <wishie> anyone know the author/maintainer of 'asoundconf' ?
[13:52] <wols> wishie: apt-cache show <packagename of asoundconf>
[13:52] <RabidWeezle> You know, I have alot of problems with that myself jarco, so I setup an ftp server on my linux box
[13:52] <TMM> is anyone here familair with ubuntu and preseed? I need to preseed the filesystems to be mounted with the 'acl' flag, but I can't seem to find it
[13:52] <jarco> yeah done that also
[13:52] <jarco> but it should work
[13:53] <RabidWeezle> I know right
[13:53] <RabidWeezle> I can't seem to share nothin with 8.04 myself, but I'm sure there are some docs on the forums about it
[13:53] <richnw3> quit
[13:53] <bardyr> jarco, have you tried another protocol?
[13:53] <jarco> its indeed only a 8.04 problem here also
[13:53] <giorgio_> come   funziona   editor   komander
[13:54] <jarco> yes bardyr
[13:54] <jarco> ftp works fine
[13:55] <jarco> anyone knows an easy fast gnome ftp server
[13:55] <junkeR> hello everyone, is there a way to download a lot of updates on a fast network computer and install them on one that's on dialup?
[13:55] <jarco> graphical
[13:55] <simontzu> jarco, rabid: did you try ext2 filesystem software from windows?  I find that works pretty quickly http://www.fs-driver.org/
[13:56] <glitsj16> junkeR: aptoncd can be helpfull with that, it's in the official repo's
[13:56] <jarco> gonna try it now
[13:56] <Rioting_pacifist>  ive tried everything bu fullscreen flash still sucks :( (setting up DRI in xorg.conf, upgrading to 10, running firefox-32bit with flash 10, well not everything but thats all i could think of)
[13:56] <simontzu> jarco - its easier than ftp
[13:57] <junkeR> wow, that's awesome... thanks.
[13:57] <atlef> have any of you gotten s/pdif to work with pulseaudio in ubuntu hardy?
[13:57] <sortudo_78> please, help me to find help with CDMCP, i tryed #xorg but it did not work :(
[13:57] <sortudo_78> xdmcp
[13:58] <jarco> installed the driver
[13:58] <jarco> still slow transfer rate
[13:58] <jarco> just to be clear
[13:58] <jarco> i transfer from ubuntu to xp
[13:58] <glitsj16> junkeR: or you could even drop them at /var/cache/apt/archives and the package system will pick it up
[13:58] <happy_tux> evolution question: How to modify rules I created ???
[13:58] <RabidWeezle> do you get slow transfers from ftp?
[13:59] <jarco> not with ftp no
[13:59] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: would you know why I am able to get a full 100mbit over dc++ but only 45mbit over ftp? out of curiosity
[14:01] <RabidWeezle> your ftp server has a cap on it, it sounds
[14:01] <RabidWeezle> you need to go into your settings and make sure all download/upload caps are removed
[14:01] <RabidWeezle> or set them rediculasly high
[14:01] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: umm, how can i check, using proftpd and not seen any such cap in the conf file
[14:01] <RabidWeezle> umm, hold on
[14:01] <RabidWeezle> sudo apt-get install gproftpd
[14:02] <rampageoberon> i think i get the same caps if i transfer files over http (lighttpd server)
[14:02] <RabidWeezle> then it will be in system>admin>gproftpd
[14:02] <hp2133> I'm looking for an app to keep track of the  contents of my CDs/DVDs in a searchable way.    So if I'm looking for DSC0001.jpg it will tell me which CD to go find.   I know one used to exist but can't remember the silly name.
[14:02] <Rioting_pacifist>  ive tried everything bu fullscreen flash still sucks :( (setting up DRI in xorg.conf, upgrading to 10, running firefox-32bit with flash 10, well not everything but thats all i could think of)
[14:02] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: can't do gproftpd as its a server os and no gui
[14:03] <RabidWeezle> ooh snap
[14:03] <RabidWeezle> umm
[14:03] <RabidWeezle> hrm
[14:03] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: maybe if you can locate the line in the gproftpd conf file
[14:03] <KOJV> How can I increase the resolution in a Live session above the limits of the control panel?
[14:03] <RabidWeezle> sure, lemme look it up
[14:04] <KOJV> !resolution
[14:05] <RabidWeezle> lemme just pastebin this conf file
[14:05] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: thanks :)
[14:05] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: not sure if its a system wide thing as get max 4mb/s over http too (lighttpd server)
[14:06] <RabidWeezle> http://a2drew.pastebin.ca/1044831
[14:06] <Ace2016> What screenresolution does a tv use?
[14:07] <Ace2016> i want to make a mythtv theme
[14:07] <RabidWeezle> that's how mine's setup, and I get 100megs a second
[14:07] <Dedi> dcop amarok playlistbrowser loadPlaylist ... and then? either number nor name does work
[14:07] <Dedi> fc sry
[14:08] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: from what i can see there is some ratelimiting (TransferRate RETR 1794 for example) i'll check more on this
[14:08] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: i have no such lines in my config
[14:08] <JonathanEllis> Hi. Can someone help me with this problem please. When I run update manager I get this error message http://pastebin.ca/1044813. This started after adding some extra repositories. I did this because someone was helping me install some software and due to a misunderstanding I may have added some repositories twice. I checked through /etc/apt/sources.list and I couldnt find any duplicates. I also cant find any duplicate files in /var/lib/apt/lists
[14:08] <RabidWeezle> my config was built with gproftpd, and I set it to no cap
[14:09] <candive> Hello, what do I set Evolution on for hotmail?? Novell, IMAP? etc
[14:09] <atlef> have any of you gotten s/pdif to work with pulseaudio in ubuntu hardy?
[14:09] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: thanks for this, i'll play around with my config and see what happens
[14:09] <JonathanEllis> candive: I believe Hotmail uses IMAP
[14:09] <RabidWeezle> arg
[14:09] <RabidWeezle> there is a cap
[14:09] <RabidWeezle> lol
[14:10] <RabidWeezle> it's 2444 up and 1794 down
[14:10] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: hehe, i thought there was
[14:10] <candive> JonathanEllis, thanks I will try it again
[14:10] <RabidWeezle> lemme fix that and see what it says
[14:10] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: what units are those in
[14:10] <Pici> JonathanEllis: Have you looked in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[14:10] <RabidWeezle> no idea
[14:10] <RabidWeezle> just gonna crank it until it doesn't go anymore
[14:11] <JonathanEllis> Pici: No, not yet. But I will do that now. What does that directory do
[14:11] <administrator> 郝和
[14:11] <Pici> JonathanEllis: It holds more files that are used in addition to sources.list, not many things use it, but its another good place to check
[14:11] <RabidWeezle> basically, the higher you set the numbers, the faster it goes, I'm just gonna try like 999999
[14:11] <JonathanEllis> Pici: /etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty
[14:12] <rampageoberon> RabidWeezle: its kilobytes/s
[14:12] <Pici> JonathanEllis: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[14:12] <BoltClock> !svn > BoltClock
[14:12] <BobDingley> having problems with pidgin on Ubuntu, anyone point me in the right direction to get answers?
[14:12] <rampageoberon> 13000 should do for 100mbit RabidWeezle
[14:12] <RabidWeezle> alright
[14:12] <candive> JonathanEllis, no go, how do I remove and or reinstall evolution?
[14:12]  * RabidWeezle clicks apply
[14:13] <RabidWeezle> say let's see, now let's transfer a large file...
[14:13] <RabidWeezle> like ultima online...
[14:13] <TalioGladius> great....so apparently attaching google calendar to thunderbird cause tbird to go wacky
[14:13] <microwaver> Anyone know of a comic book viewer for ubuntu 7.10?
[14:14] <recon> microwaver: comix.
[14:14] <lonetech1920> whats the path of hard disk drives in the root directory
[14:14] <JonathanEllis> Pici: sure its http://pastebin.ca/1044844
[14:14] <recon> microwaver: don't have to unzip/unrar/etc the pictures, either.
[14:14] <microwaver> recon,  just wanted to ask that question :)
[14:14] <recon> lonetech1920: It's where you mount them. If Ubuntu already detected a hard drive and auto-mounted it, it should be in /media.
[14:14] <JonathanEllis> Candive: Why do you want to remove or reinstall evolution?
[14:15] <candive> I have tried all options to open my hotmail so far only pigin works
[14:15] <BobDingley> having problems with pidgin on Ubuntu, anyone point me in the right direction to get answers?
[14:15] <candive> It did work in the past
[14:16] <recon> lonetech1920: You might also see it in your "Places" menu as "XX.X GB Media".
[14:16] <elmargol> Hi, I search a cordless keyboard+touchpad for my media center pc. Can someone recommend a keyboard please? Logitech diNovo is nice but way too expensiv
[14:16] <BoltClock> BobDingley: im no pidgin god, but what exactly might the problems be?
[14:17] <MOzartstaedter> does anyone know a open source software like dreamweaver???
[14:17] <BobDingley> it will randomly crash, that is the best description i can give you, i will be mid way through typing a sentence and it will just crash
[14:17] <JonathanEllis> Candive: Personally I prefer to keep webmail on the web. But then I use googlemail which has a much better user interface than any email program I have seen
[14:17] <lonetech1920> recon: thanks i got
[14:17] <lonetech1920> it
[14:17] <JonathanEllis> MOzaersraedter: Try searching on osalt.com
[14:17] <mw-home> what is a good command-line PNG viewer?
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley when connected to which service?
[14:17] <camason> hi guys. I have a realtek onboard chipset that allows multiple streaming (2 devices) in windows. Any ideas on how I could enable this in Ubuntu 8.04?
[14:18] <BobDingley> using my msn account
[14:18] <mw-home> I am running X.  I just want to launch some really quick app to display a PNG.
[14:18] <recon> camason: by multiple streaming, would you mean 'can support multiple monitors'?
[14:18] <MOzartstaedter> thx JonathanEllis
[14:18] <recon> mw-home: gthumb should work.
[14:18] <microwaver> recon thanks i'm going to tes tit now ;)
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley And it is only your msn account correct not yahoo or one of the others
[14:18] <candive> JonathanEllis, thanks I was planning to try my new Ubuntu 8.04 CD nows my chance
[14:18] <camason> recon, possibly... on windows, I can specify audio to go to either the rear ports or the front
[14:19] <joshuafr> hi all
[14:19] <BobDingley> yeah, i only have my msn account connected
[14:19] <BobDingley> i have 'killed' evolution mail through the terminal as it hogs my memory like nothing i have ever seen before, will that effect it at all
[14:19] <camason> recon, what I would like is for normal audio to go to my speakers, but a single application to go through my headphones (front ports). This is possible in windows
[14:19] <Pici> JonathanEllis: I see a few duplicates.. see lines 6 & 58 , 11 & 59, 19 & 58, and maybe another, I lost my place...
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley it shouldnt.. have you tried amsn
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !info amsn
[14:19] <candive> chow
[14:19] <furythor> How I do get some details from my laptop "webcam" ?
[14:19] <joshuafr> did someone know what is the font and the effect used in the defaut usplash theme for Gutsy?
[14:20] <BobDingley> amsn? no i havent dont know what it is, i am fairly new to using Ubuntu
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley look up to ubottu
[14:20] <JonathanEllis> Pici: Thanks. How did you search for duplicates?
[14:20] <joshuafr> s/did/does :-P
[14:20] <recon> camason: Hold on, performing google-fu...
[14:20] <camason> recon, thanks bud
[14:20] <Pici> JonathanEllis: I grepped out the commented lines, then just looked through it.
[14:20] <BobDingley> sorry, what you mean by 'look up to ubottu'?
[14:21] <JonathanEllis> Candive: If you want to remove Evolution you can do that in Synaptic or |Applications|Add/remove
[14:21] <KratoS> C'est à chier se server
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley You can try this.. if it doesnt find it then we will need to enable universe repos...   open a terminal.. by going to applications..access..terminal   they type sudo apt-get install amsn
[14:22] <cdc> Can you mount a SMB folder [windows share] via command/konsole?
[14:22] <JonathanEllis> Pici: I imported the file into a spreadsheet then sorted but I didnt see any duplicates. I must be going mad
[14:22] <recon> camason: PulseAudio looks promising.
[14:23] <recon> camason: http://www.matt-j.co.uk/2008/04/24/pulseaudio-and-ubuntu-804/
[14:23] <camason> recon, I'll take a look
[14:23] <recon> camason: "# Move audio to a different output card without having to stop / re-open the application." I assume that's what you're looking for?
[14:23] <BobDingley> ok thats installed, what is amsn ment to do?
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley Enable the universe repo by goint to system...admin...software sources...   in there make sure the first 4 boxes are checked and close it, tell it to update as needed..
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley amsn is another im for msn
[14:24] <camason> recon, yes. But I think I need to actually set up the hardware-level stuff first. I'm unsure if both outputs are being recodnised in ubuntu yet. It's treating them as a single output. (In windows, an option needs to be ticked to set up the multiple-monitors)
[14:24] <BobDingley> ah ok
[14:24] <camason> recon, pulseaudio monitor shows a single output device at the moment
[14:25] <JonathanEllis> Pici: Im just looking at the wikipedia entry for grep but I havent yet found out how to grep out the commented lines
[14:25] <KenSentMe> My laptop gives random freezes, the system totally locks up. No messages in the logs or anything. I did a memtest, but that didnt report any errors. Although i think it's a hardware problem i havent seen the freeze on Windows. How can i test my system any further or test to see if the freeze is caused by my hardware or software?
[14:25] <Pici> JonathanEllis: grep -v "#" filename
[14:25] <cjohnson> I have Ubuntu installed through Wubi, how do I change the boot options (I want to remove the "quiet splash" words from my boot")
[14:26] <BobDingley> ok so all four are selected, update as needed, that is just when new updates are available yeah?
[14:26] <Mitur> Hi! i need some help to get javax components to work on 804. Does anyone have any spare time?
[14:26] <recon> camason: I'm no sound expert, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio should sum up everything you need to know. However, being that I lack two audio jacks, I won't be able to test it.
[14:26] <camason> recon, thanks, its a start :D
[14:26] <MOzartstaedter> bye guys, thx for the help =)
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley no, it updates your list of available software and includes software from those other sources
[14:26] <gioppo> dddddddddddddddddddai
[14:27] <Rocko> :)
[14:27] <Rocko> yay
[14:27] <Rocko> i have just installed Ubuntu 8 :P
[14:27] <Rocko> looking sexy
[14:27] <Rocko> so much faster then Vista !
[14:27] <rampageoberon> Rocko: it is indeed! well done
[14:27] <gioppo> booooooooooooooooo  rocko
[14:27] <cjohnson> I have Ubuntu installed through Wubi, how do I change the boot options (I want to remove the "quiet splash" words from my boot)
[14:27] <Rocko> I am very happy with it
[14:27] <Rocko> and i am happy that it picked up my nvidia drivers aswell
[14:28] <microwaver> recon, now to figure out how it works.
[14:28] <rhalff> hi, I get a segmentation fault upgrading udev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19335/
[14:28] <recon> microwaver: are we talking about gthumb or comix?
[14:28] <BobDingley> ok, just updated through the terminal by 'sudo apt-get update' correct?
[14:28] <glitsj16> cjohnson: you can easily do that with your editor of choice, needs root permissions though
[14:28] <rhalff> that's a known bug, or just a broken setup for me ?
[14:29] <cjohnson> glitsj16, I can't boot into ubuntu, which is why I'm trying to remove quiet from the boot option, so I can see the error. I'm in windows now
[14:29] <rampageoberon> BobDingley: that updates the repository list so all the applications available and so
[14:29] <rampageoberon> BobDingley: to upgrade sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:29] <glitsj16> cjohnson: i see, without those you're blind indeed, goodluck
[14:29] <microwaver> recon, comix. You just have to load in a .rar file but it doesnt really do anything
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley yes
[14:30] <recon> microwaver: Do you have one of the unrar packages installed?
[14:30] <harfg209> hi
[14:30] <Mitur> Im having some problems with java in 8.04. The applications just freeze as soon as they contain any javax components. Does anyone know the problem?
[14:30] <harfg209> is there a way to cause the terminal to flash
[14:30] <harfg209> Im sure there is I just cant rember it
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> rampageoberon All we were trying to do was install amsn from universe
[14:30] <recon> microwaver: apt-get install unrar or apt-get install unrar-free.
[14:30] <maek> Mitur, java sucks in ubuntu
[14:30] <rampageoberon> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, my bad
[14:30] <ruiboon> cjohnson: when you are at the grub, press 'e' and you will be able to edit it.
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:30] <microwaver> recon, i had the package unrar installed.
[14:31] <Mitur> maek, i used it alot in the old version. And it worked just fine for me
[14:31] <cjohnson> ruiboon, I'm using wubi, I don't have grub, only ntldr
[14:31] <microwaver> recon, but didn't seem to work.
[14:31] <joepesci> can anyone please help me how to change the startup options. i want the default OS to be UBUNTU and not WINDOWS ?
[14:31] <BoltClock> is there a way to change grub's timer from 10 seconds?
[14:31] <ruiboon> cjohnson: oo. i am not sure abt wubu. sorry about that
[14:31] <funkja> I installed a package that installed fine and works, but every time I run apt it tells me that there was an error in the post-installation script for the package. How can I get rid of this message without uninstalling the package?
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> BoltClock yes.. it is in the menu.lst
[14:31] <BobDingley> ok, it has finished "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[14:32] <recon> BoltClock: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:32] <cjohnson> ruiboon, it seems nobody is, google has no answers either :(
[14:32] <recon> microwaver: and it only has plain image files inside the .rar?
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley sudo apt-get install amsn
[14:33] <BobDingley> done, so it should be alright now?
[14:33] <microwaver> recon, dumb act from me. it's seem to be pdf doc's
[14:33] <recon> microwaver: you might want to try evince then. :-)
[14:33] <ruiboon> cjohnson: does c:\boot.ini have the relevant boot options for ubuntu?
[14:33] <recon> microwaver: evince doesn't accept .rars, though, so unrar them first.
[14:33] <BoltClock> Jack_Sparrow;recon: done, thanks
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> BobDingley no.. that is a different im client for msn.. you will need to run it, set it up etc.. sorry, I dont use msn or amsn so I wont have any further answers
[14:33] <cjohnson> ruiboon, nope, only "C:\wubildr.mbr"
[14:34] <idealprod> Hello everyone, how do I allow the "apache" user to wright on the /tmp directory ,
[14:34] <idealprod> ?
[14:34] <BobDingley> would you know if i set it up like i did with my account for msn? if so i think i can get through it
[14:34] <erUSUL> BoltClock: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst search "timeout"
[14:35] <anhdh> asd
[14:35] <BoltClock> erUSUL: ive done it already =/
[14:35] <ruiboon> cjohnson: what about this file? c:\ubuntu\disks\boot\grub\menu.lst
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> cjohnson Sorry you are having trouble, I wont use nor recommend wubi so I cant really help you other than pointing you to the wubi faq
[14:35] <recon> idealprod: Set the correct permissions for the /tmp directory.
[14:35] <cjohnson> Jack_Sparrow, it's not that I want to use wubi, it's just that I'm tyring to figure out why Ubuntu in general is having trouble with my machine
[14:35] <recon> idealprod: Do you know permissions, or should I explain it?
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> cjohnson You are asking wubi specific questions..
[14:36] <carpediem> can I ask a question?
[14:36] <cjohnson> ruiboon, the folders are all there, but menu.lst isn't
[14:36] <recon> carpediem: Don't ask to ask, just ask. :-)
[14:36] <carpediem> ok ok
[14:36] <conrad_> today i have no sound in ubuntu 8.04, after my sound worked fine. something is hogging the sound device, and rebooting does not fix it?
[14:36] <carpediem> well, i've got this problem with my sound
[14:36] <carpediem> it can only process 1 sound source at A time
[14:36] <cjohnson> Jack_Sparrow, right, because wubi was the only way I could even get it to install. the normal installation, and alternate, for 8.04 and 7.10, all fail to load the installer. wubi installed, so that's what I'm using to debug
[14:37] <rampageoberon> idealprod: my /tmp/ dir has full read-write-execute access, so sudo chmod 777 /tmp/
[14:37] <carpediem> for example: I can't play openarena and play mp3's at the same time
[14:37] <RabidWeezle> carpediem, did you turn off the esd sound server?
[14:37] <carpediem> Or listen to teamspeak while playing music
[14:37] <carpediem> hmz
[14:37] <carpediem> no
[14:37] <carpediem> where can I do that? sound settings?
[14:37] <recon> carpediem: Yeah, you'll need a sound server to deal with that. It's usually set up by default.
[14:37] <RabidWeezle> click system>prefferences>sound
[14:37] <carpediem> ok
[14:37] <carpediem> sound playback = Autodetect
[14:37] <RabidWeezle> second tab
[14:37] <carpediem> Sounds?
[14:37] <recon> carpediem: Are you running Gutsy, or...?
[14:38] <carpediem> 80.4
[14:38] <carpediem> 8.04 ;)
[14:38] <RabidWeezle> should see Enable Software sound mixing (ESD)
[14:38] <RabidWeezle> it should be checked
[14:38] <carpediem> it's enabled
[14:38] <osfameron> !fonts
[14:38] <conrad_> i'm also having a problem with my sound in 8.04
[14:38] <conrad_> soemthing is hogging the sound device
[14:38] <RabidWeezle> carpediem, do you have 2 soundcards?
[14:38] <carpediem> nope
[14:38] <carpediem> i'm on a lapto
[14:38] <carpediem> p
[14:39]  * osfameron is always amazed that double clicking on a font doesn't do *anything useful at all* on Windows or Gnome
[14:39] <RabidWeezle> carpediem, are you using the front audio jacks or the back?
[14:39] <AoZ-> c'est que anglais ici ?
[14:39] <carpediem> I only have front ones
[14:39] <recon> !french | AoZ-
[14:39] <ruiboon> cjohnson: does 'grub error' under  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#head-8823bb81b6e0ecd10006d3d226c1f7e8f6f705b1 helps?
[14:40] <RabidWeezle> actually, now since I think about it...
[14:40] <RabidWeezle> nevermind the jacks idea
[14:40] <carpediem> :)
[14:40] <RabidWeezle> alright, goto devices tab
[14:40] <RabidWeezle> should all say ALSA
[14:40] <carpediem> I had problems before with sound tho
[14:40] <carpediem> I had to add LFE for my subwoofer
[14:40] <carpediem> ok i'll go to devices
[14:40] <RabidWeezle> ooh?
[14:40] <onats> how do i quit X?
[14:40] <conrad_> today i have no sound in ubuntu 8.04, after my sound worked fine. something is hogging the sound device, and rebooting does not fix it?
[14:40] <onats> i am trying to install my nvidia drivers, but it won't allow me to since there is an xserver instance running
[14:41] <carpediem> i'm in the devices tabs now:)
[14:41] <wols> onats: install the nvidia debs from ubuntu
[14:41] <RabidWeezle> do they all say alsa?
[14:41] <rhalff> a segmentation fault during upgrade, can mean something other then a corrupt filesystem ?
[14:41] <carpediem> no
[14:41] <carpediem> autodetect
[14:41] <wols> rhalff: yes it can
[14:41] <BobDingley> never mind Jack_Sparrow, thanks for you help though
[14:41] <scunizi> onats, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:41] <carpediem> shall i put them to alsa?
[14:41] <Bodsda> !who | carpediem RabidWeezle
[14:41] <scunizi> onats, wait..
[14:41] <onats> wols, which one do i install?
[14:41] <rhalff> wols, how can I debug an apt-update ?
[14:41] <cjohnson> ruiboon, perfect, that's what I needed to figure out how to edit the grub entry...i think
[14:42] <wols> !nvidia | onats
[14:42] <cjohnson> ruiboon, gonna reboot, thanks for yoru help :D
[14:42] <wols> rhalff: first we need to know what actually happens
[14:42] <scunizi> onats, ctrl+alt+f2 then log in and then initiate the other command.
[14:42] <ruiboon> cjohnson: glad that it helps (:
[14:42] <carpediem> RabidWeezle:  shall i put them to alsa?
[14:42] <onats> scunizi, thanks!:)
[14:42] <rhalff> wols, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19335/
[14:42] <scunizi> onats, np
[14:42] <conrad_> how can i see what is using my sound device, and kill it?
[14:42] <funkja> How do I make apt stop trying to do the post-installation scripts on a broken package, without removing the package?
[14:43] <YouBucky> Hey Guys, Ubuntu hasnt picked up my dual screen, whats the best way to resolve this/
[14:43] <wols> onats: the nvidia installer will break your packagemanagement. we can't help you with problems with it ether
[14:43] <wols> funkja: edit the postinst script
[14:43] <onats> wols, so i must do a apt-get install right?
[14:43] <funkja> wols: where would that be located?
[14:43] <conrad_> YouBucky: are you using the nvidia driver? i just set mine up last night using nvidia-settings
[14:43] <wols> rhalff: apt is not segfaulting here
[14:43] <rhalff> wols, so how can I determine what is.
[14:43] <wols> !restricted | onats
[14:44] <YouBucky> conrad_: No, ATI (X1300 PRo)
[14:44] <idealprod> Sorry
[14:44] <wols> rhalff: the csript for udev is running something that segfaults
[14:44] <rhalff> hm ok
[14:44] <idealprod> rampageoberon, my tmp permissions are 777
[14:44] <conrad_> lagg
[14:44] <idealprod> But my access is refused
[14:45] <scunizi> onats, have you already tried the restricted drivers manager? or are you just wanting to get the latest and greatest driver?
[14:45] <rampageoberon> www-data the apache user should be able to write there then idealprod
[14:45] <onats> scunizi, its actually selected in the restricted drivers
[14:45] <conrad_> over a minute of lag
[14:45] <conrad_> 90 second lag
[14:45] <idealprod> rampageoberon, but I have an error message
[14:45] <scunizi> onats, and?
[14:45] <onats> scunizi, but my screen won't load properly. What log files should i be looking at to debug this?
[14:45] <idealprod> Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: open(/tmp/sess_02b4f67885e225067f200cd2e52c55f5, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) in myfile.php on line 23
[14:45] <lejon> onats xorg.log?
[14:45] <onats> im looking at a 800x600 screen right now
[14:46] <HalphaZ> hello
[14:46] <onats> lejon, where is that located?
[14:46] <rampageoberon> idealprod: maybe chmod 777 /tmp/sess_02b4f67885e225067f200cd2e52c55f5, O_RDWR
[14:46] <conrad_> how can i see what is using my sound device, and kill it?
[14:46] <HalphaZ> I've a friend with ubuntu
[14:46] <lejon> onats, in /etc/X11 folder
[14:46] <rampageoberon> idealprod: maybe chmod 777 /tmp/sess_02b4f67885e225067f200cd2e52c55f5
[14:46] <HalphaZ> it has hardy proposed e backport activated
[14:46] <rampageoberon> if it exists idealprod
[14:46] <onats> nada
[14:46] <idealprod> rampageoberon, i won't chmod every file that apache want to create...
[14:46] <Skitt> conrad_: lsof /your/device might help
[14:46] <HalphaZ> he tried suspend to disk and suspend to ram
[14:46] <lejon> !enter | HalphaZ
[14:47] <idealprod> rampageoberon, but that works ! Thank a lot !
[14:47] <rampageoberon> idealprod: i know, but incase it is already created and can't edit
[14:47] <lejon> HalphaZ, much easier to help then ;)
[14:47] <scunizi> onats, trying to install another driver won't fix this issue..  in fact.. you might really gum things up..  there were a couple of links given to you earlier by ubottu  .. check those out.
[14:47] <rampageoberon> idealprod: np
[14:47] <onats> !restricted
[14:47] <scunizi> !resolution | onats
[14:48] <HalphaZ> suspend to disk works properly only if there is no window opened
[14:48] <BoltClock> !svn
[14:48] <HalphaZ> else otherwise suspend to disk doesn't work at all (computer doesn't shut down)
[14:48] <idealprod> Now I have a problem with php 6: It crashes on the first accentuate caracter that it finds on my file...
[14:49] <conrad_> Skitt:  lsof /dev/snd returns nothing
[14:49] <HalphaZ> instead suspend to ram doesn't work at all
[14:49] <lejon> HalphaZ, suspend or hibernate?
[14:49] <idealprod> Warning: Illegal or truncated character in input: offset 7, state=0 in myfile.php on line 49
[14:49] <HalphaZ> can I help him with your help-'
[14:49] <HalphaZ> hibernate works only without open windows
[14:49] <HalphaZ> suspend doesn't work at all
[14:49] <lejon> HalphaZ, It could mean that 1. The swap partition is too small, try to have it to atleast a minimum of the size of ur RAM, preferably like 1,5 of ur RAM
[14:50] <m0u5e> is there a way to add friends w/ xchat gnome? :D
[14:50] <lejon> HalphaZ, 2. Ur power management doesn't work properlly for ur friend
[14:51] <lejon> HalphaZ, Does he even have a swap partition to begin with? :P
[14:52] <HalphaZ> is has a swap of 2G
[14:52] <HalphaZ> and his ram is 1G
[14:52] <lejon> then its probably not setup properlly, and how to do that I dunno, maybe try googling it or try the forums
[14:52] <lejon> I really haven't gotten it to work on my comp either
[14:52] <anhdh> whois emdash
[14:52] <conrad_> how can i see what is using my sound device, and kill it?
[14:53] <uubu> hi
[14:53] <jahshua> hello
[14:53] <jahshua> anyone here using atheros wireless cards with amd64/hardy ?
[14:53] <uubu> has anyone been successful at compiling lpfc drivers for HP emulex fiber card ?
[14:53] <lejon> jahshua, me
[14:53] <jahshua> lejon: can i ask you how you set up yours?
[14:53] <thiebaude> conrad:did you try system monitor-and then processes?
[14:54] <lejon> jahshua, I downloaded the latest madwifi driver, compiled that and then installed wicd and told it to use madwifi drivers
[14:54] <jahshua> wicd ?
[14:54] <jahshua> hmm
[14:55] <jahshua> okay, did you removed network manager?
[14:55] <jahshua> remove*
[14:55] <lejon> Yeah, wicd does that when its installed
[14:55] <jahshua> okay cool.
[14:55] <lejon> google wicd to get to their homepage and madwifis homepage is madwifi.com
[14:55] <lejon> madwifi.org*
[14:55] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya... ubuntu 8.04 here... and my mouse scrollwheel is very unresponsive with firefox, thunderbird... haven't tried other apps. sometimes i'm spinning it and nothing happens...
[14:55] <pvh_sa|wrk> any ideas?
[14:55] <HalphaZ> so i can't help my friend
[14:55] <jahshua> lejon: i am running regular hardy as oppsed to the 64 bit version. will this cause me problems?
[14:55] <HalphaZ> :,(
[14:56] <rampageoberon> whats the ubottu command for gparted livecd?
[14:56] <conrad_> thiebaude: what should i be looking for?
[14:56] <HalphaZ> but i thank you fro your attention
[14:56] <HalphaZ> :-D
[14:56] <lejon> jahshua, to be honest I have no idea, but it should work the same way
[14:56] <lejon> HalphaZ, Thats why I hang in this chat :P
[14:56] <Pici> rampageoberon: I dont think there is one.. since the regular ubuntu live cd has gparted...
[14:56] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi
[14:56] <vy> Hi! How can I install gnome-desktop-environment to a Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Server) x64-64 system? apt-get/aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment keeps complaining http://rafb.net/p/ihdnQj81.html
[14:57] <rampageoberon> Pici: ah okay
[14:57] <FJ_Sanchez> One question, what is the lastest kernel avaiable fo rubuntu?
[14:57] <FJ_Sanchez> *for ubuntu
[14:57] <rampageoberon> Pici: thanks :)
[14:57] <lejon> I think the .25 kernel is available but its very experimental
[14:57] <Pici> FJ_Sanchez:  2.6.24-19
[14:57] <FJ_Sanchez> experimental??!?!
[14:57] <thiebaude> conrad:thats a good question i'am not really sure
[14:57] <Pici> lejon: its not in our repositories
[14:57] <FJ_Sanchez> At least it's stable in kernel.org :p
[14:58] <conrad_> how can i see what is using my sound device, and kill it?
[14:58] <FJ_Sanchez> Ok thx
[14:58] <lejon> Pici, I haven't gotten the .24-19 version yet :P and yeah its not in the repo, but I think there is a backport somewhere I heard of
[14:58] <conrad_> i'm sorry, this was wasted my entire day so far, i'm desperate
[14:58] <vy> conrad_: lsof|grep /dev/...
[14:58] <lejon> conrad_, tried aplay -l?
[14:58] <scunizi> conrad_, it you're not getting sound out of a game or something.. try killall pulseaudio
[14:59] <conrad_> lejon: aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
[14:59] <Pici> lejon: Its only in -proposed right now
[14:59] <conrad_> lejon: but my sound worked yesterday :/
[14:59] <lejon> conrad_, did you change anything or fibble anything with ur sound today?
[14:59] <lejon> Pici, yeah, the .25 is apparently ibex (8.10)
[15:00] <conrad_> lejon: i didn't change anything, it stopped working this morning, ever since then i've been fiddling trying to fix it, yes
[15:01] <Pici> lejon: not yet.
[15:01] <lejon> conrad_, have you checked if you have any of the sound channels muted? like in alsa?
[15:01] <Lacrymology> I need help installing a network printer
[15:02] <scunizi> Lacrymology, what kind
[15:02] <lejon> Pici ive only heard that .25 is experiemental and apparently belongs to ibex and yeah, its not in our repos yet due to that ^^
[15:02] <cjohnson> When I boot up, I get the following error: "USB 2-1 Device not accepted address 2, error -63" and it stops there. I don't get a graphical interface, and I can't get into a command line. What might cause this? The only USB devices plugged in are a mouse and keyboard.
[15:02] <conrad_> lejon: i don't know how to check, but right now it seems like i have no soundcard installed
[15:02] <Lacrymology> scunizi: it's an HP, I'll go look at the model if that's useful
[15:02] <KOJV> I've just installed Ubuntu to an Asus EEE P701. It says proprietary drivers are used for the Atheros wireless card, but I can't get to connect to my wireless network? And eth0 doesn't exist.
[15:02] <lejon> conrad_, hmm, weird
[15:03] <Lacrymology> LaserJet 1022
[15:03] <adam7> I don't think we're ever going to get .25 in Hardy, are we?
[15:03] <lejon> KOJV, try the madwifi drivers from madwifi.org, they helped me
[15:03] <lejon> adam7 as far as I know we wont
[15:03] <conrad_> lejon: i guess i have this problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=750997 but the solution they give is to reinsatll
[15:03] <conrad_> install
[15:03] <genii> I'm pretty sure the 1022 is a host-based printer
[15:03] <scunizi> Lacrymology, naw.. that's ok.. HP's are pretty compatible.. you need to read hp's page on linux for correct setup.. ipp or lpt .. but it'll  work
[15:04] <KOJV> Thanks lejon.
[15:04] <Pici> adam7: No. Ubuntu will never do a kernel version bump after release
[15:04] <genii> eg: printer equivelent of winmodem
[15:04] <lejon> conrad_, it could simply be that the driver aint loaded or was compiled properlly
[15:04] <lejon> KOJV, no problem :)
[15:04] <adam7> Pici: ok. I wasn't sure if because this was a LTS that would change things
[15:04] <adam7> but then, the 2.4 kernel is still supported, so 2.6 should be, I suppose.
[15:04] <scunizi> Lacrymology, is it actually connected to the network or you want to network it via usb?
[15:05] <conrad_> lejon: is that possible, given that everything worked until this morning, and then borked without reason?
[15:05] <recon> conrad_: they're computers. anything is possible.
[15:05] <lejon> well, have you run any updates later?
[15:05]  * lejon agress with recon
[15:05] <lejon> "To err is human, to really screw it up you need a computer" :P
[15:06] <EMAGEHT> Anyone have any Linux Product Keys?
[15:06] <thiebaude> lol lejon
[15:06] <recon> EMAGEHT: Are you being serious?
[15:06] <adam7> Linux Product Keys?
[15:06] <EMAGEHT> Yeah.
[15:06] <adam7> I don't think you'll need any to install Ubuntu.
[15:06] <lejon> o.O its free mate
[15:06] <recon> EMAGEHT: I'm pretty sure no such thing exists.
[15:06] <EMAGEHT> It said I did.
[15:06] <dob> When I try to start kspread-kde4 in 8.04 Gnome with /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kspread I get "findServiceByDesktopPath: kspreadpart.desktop not found" and "findServiceByDesktopPath: Office/kspread.desktop not found" and it doesn't start. Any ideas?
[15:06] <lejon> O.O
[15:06] <wy> Anybody uses VirtualBox under ubuntu?
[15:06] <lejon> wy I have
[15:06] <adam7> wy: yep
[15:06] <recon> EMAGEHT: On the default Ubuntu installer?
[15:06] <lejon> thiebaude, its true ;)
[15:07] <EMAGEHT> Yeah
[15:07] <thiebaude> yep it is
[15:07] <lejon> EMAGEHT, ive never heard of such a thing