[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> who had a thinkpad? just switched trackpoint heads. which is your favorite? I like most except the cat's tongue..
[09:17] <Mike___> dooglus: yeah i used acronis disk director
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> has
[09:17] <Mike___> navarone: i've never had any problems after resizing partitions, until now
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> jahshua, what specifically ?
[09:18] <dooglus> Mike___: the problem was to do with adding a partition not at the end.  it causes all the following partitions to have their number changed
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: i thought fstab was like a hardwired thing, like it was an actual report of what the hardware was
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> you mean registering the nick 'jahshua' ?
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: so i didn't think it could be wrong
[09:18] <dooglus> Mike___: that's where the confusion is coming from.  fstab is just a text file.
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: ahh, i see
[09:18] <amb> If I build a kernel with make-kpkg, I lose the boot splash screen. How do I avoid that?
[09:18] <Madpilot> aTypical: Opera 8.51 works fine in Breezy; 8.5 had some (minor) issues in Breezy, but not in Hoary... <shrug> it's worth fiddling with, to get the best browser going :)
[09:18] <Mike___> dooglus: and had i used nix partitioning software, it would have amended the fstab
[09:19] <dooglus> Mike___: you edit fstab to tell linux what each partition is, and what options to use when mounting it
[09:19] <active-matrix> root@matrix:~# /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:19] <active-matrix> -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[09:19] <active-matrix> why is this happen
[09:19] <dooglus> Mike___: you might think so, but I really wouldn't be surprised if it didn't
[09:19] <Mike___> dooglus: right ok well that's cleared things up a lot, i still don't fully understand partitions, but i know a bit more
[09:19] <amb> active-matrix: because you cannot execute a text file
[09:19] <eruin> active-matrix, because you can't exec a text file
[09:19] <_jason> active-matrix, that's a text file, you edit it
[09:19] <navarone> dooglus> I just recovered from something similar. I resized windows system disk in first drive and copied files from smaller partition to newer fat32 (w/ gparted). In windows the new partition showed as fat32 but gparted made it linux fs. I finally formatted in Windows disk manager to fat32 to be sure and had to rescue using install disk to reinstall grub then edit fstab
[09:20] <Madpilot> back later, all. need food
[09:20] <dooglus> Mike___: can I have 20 now?
[09:20] <eruin> Mike___, you really should use gparted to edit partitions ;)
[09:21] <dooglus> eruin: would gparted update /etc/fstab with the changes you make?
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> active-matrix if you're sudo, then sudo chmod +x /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:21] <navarone> dooglus I don't think so
[09:21] <aTypical> I'm experienced enough to think going back to stable might be a better idea for me.
[09:21] <dooglus> CaptainMorgan: I was going to say that, but then I realised it wouldn't be very funny
[09:21] <eruin> I don't think it'd rearrange your partitions for one thing
[09:21] <Mike___> well, i installed ubuntu today and i have no net connection on it
[09:21] <andrei> Mike___,  give the man the reward
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> dooglus, ?
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, what version are you atttempting ?
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> Dapper ?
[09:22] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, I'm using Dapper
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> ah..
[09:22] <Mike___> linux people really should quit with these bloody cocky remarks followed by winking smileys
[09:22] <Mike___> don't you have girlfriends?!
[09:22] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, this seems really nice.
[09:22] <djtansey> i have just rotated my x screen. my mouse cursor doesn't seem to have switched. though where the mouse _acutally is has rotated, the cursor still pretends the screen is unrotated
[09:22] <Mike___> dooglus: thanks for your help
[09:22] <Seveas> !tell Mike___ about attitude
[09:22] <djtansey> any suggestions?
[09:22] <dooglus> CaptainMorgan: he's asking why he gets an error.  the correct answer is "because you've not made the file executable".  but what he needs to hear is "you shouldn't be trying to run that file as a script"
[09:22] <aTypical> I'd hate to downgrade and lose the things that make this so nice.
[09:22] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, Dapper is nice you mean ?
[09:22] <greenpenguin13> my webserver doesnt want to run .php scripts
[09:22] <navarone> eruin> does gparted only allow you to resize existing partition by adding unallocated space if the unallocated space is to it's right on the gparted screen...ie end of disk?
[09:22] <greenpenguin13> it just hands me the file
[09:22] <dooglus> Mike___: you're welcome.  your appreciation is worth much more than the 20 you promised anyway.
[09:23] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> dooglus, ah.. missed the question.. :) wasn't trying to be sarcastic
[09:23] <greenpenguin13> ive got mod-php
[09:23] <Juchipilo> hello.  What file do i need to modify  if I want to add more aliases automatically when i open the console?  is it /etc/profile   ?
[09:23] <Seveas> Juchipilo, ~/.bashrc
[09:23] <Juchipilo> cool. thanks Seveas
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, what are noticeable changes from 5.10 to Dapper ?
[09:23] <Kyral> Juchipilo: and the aliases go in ~/.bash_aliases
[09:23] <greenpenguin13> crashes more
[09:23] <dooglus> Juchipilo: depends if you want it for just you, or for all users
[09:23] <Juchipilo> for all
[09:24] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, I have no idea.  I'm new to Ubuntu.
[09:24] <jahshua> can  someone help me to set ident in kubuntu for x chat
[09:24] <eruin> ubotu is gone
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> wonders why the Mike_ attitdue..?
[09:24] <djm62> eruin: hail ubugtu
[09:24] <Ubugtu> Dunno.
[09:24] <djm62> meet the new bot, same as the old bot
[09:25] <eruin> ah, it's taken over ubotus chores ?
[09:25] <dooglus> Kyral: ~/.bash_aliases doesn't get sourced by default, does it?
[09:25] <greenpenguin13> does ubugtu notice if you talk about it?
[09:25] <Seveas> eruin, until ubotu returns
[09:25] <greenpenguin13> no then
[09:25] <dooglus> Juchipilo: if you want it for all users, put it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> stable means community developed to a relatively bugless environment.. unstable - many bugs.. not yet worked out? I saw a post one about Breezy being rushed.. how can it be rushed if it's stable ?
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> jahshua, I asked you already.
[09:25] <greenpenguin13> is ubugtu open source?
[09:26] <Kyral> dooglus: nope
[09:26] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, it was released in october 05 just like it was supposed to be
[09:26] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, for a alpha/beta release it's amazingly stable.  It detected all the hardware on my system.  I like gnome 2.13.3.
[09:26] <Ubugtu> Error: Error getting Gnome Bugzilla bug #2: NotFound
[09:26] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, do you know what the differences are between the versions?
[09:26] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, dapper development will be less rough as it's supposed to be a long-term supported release
[09:26] <Kyral> Dapper is the next release
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, nope.. please tell
[09:26] <aTypical> CaptainMorgan, I was hoping you knew.
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, thatd be nice - long-term....
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> aTypical, lol..
[09:27] <djm62> CaptainMorgan: stable means not changing, and means higher quality control (but this can vary)
[09:27] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, at the moment the difference is essentially newer packages (like xorg 7rc's and gnome 2.13)
[09:27] <Ubugtu> Error: Error getting Gnome Bugzilla bug #2: NotFound
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> djm62, ok, so bugs arent anything to do with it? it's an unstable environment due to system alterations..?
[09:27] <eruin> err
[09:28] <Seveas> stop saying gnome with a number after it, ubugtu gets confused :)
[09:28] <CaptainMorgan> which causes.. bugs : / ?>
[09:28] <greenpenguin13> hey gaim2 works :)
[09:28] <jahshua> captain no i mean setting ident for irc
[09:28] <eruin> Seveas, blimey, I was about to give it another spin ;p
[09:28] <jahshua> getting rid of the ~
[09:28] <dooglus> Mike forgot to take my paypal details.  I'm sure he'll be right back when he remembers.
[09:28] <CaptainMorgan> jahshua, you don't have a ~
[09:28] <jahshua> i know i dont have it on this shell
[09:28] <navarone> dooglus, I'm sure the cheques in the mail...<s>
[09:28] <jahshua> when i log onto irc with my ip
[09:28] <jahshua> i do
[09:28] <aTypical> What is the current version of gnome in Breezy?
[09:29] <Seveas> 2.12.1
[09:29] <Kyral> 2.12
[09:29] <Kyral> okay
[09:29] <aTypical> Thanks.
[09:29] <dooglus> what about in dapper?
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> Seveas, setting a nick in IRC to get rid of ~, how ?
[09:29] <Seveas> 2.13.3
[09:29] <aTypical> dooglus, 2.13.3
[09:29] <eruin> a 2.13 cocktail
[09:29] <dooglus> ok.
[09:29] <aTypical> I think I'll suffer with the minor problems I've seen so far.
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> question arose... main diff's' between Dapper and Breezy ?
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> besides the stability
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[09:29] <Kyral> No one asks what version of Fluxbox it ships with lol
[09:29] <jahshua> look here
[09:29] <jahshua> UNIX:
[09:29] <jahshua> Identd isn't actually apart of X-Chat. You will need to download and install your own ident server. Most distributions, including RedHat, come with an ident server program called pidentd. Make sure it is enabled in /etc/xinetd.conf or read you distribution's documentation. As an alternative, you can try this experimental identd server: xchat_auth
[09:30] <greenpenguin14> latest sofware course
[09:30] <greenpenguin14> its not noticable yet really
[09:30] <dooglus> aTypical: which are the minor problems you've seen?
[09:30] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, that's essentially it
[09:30] <intelikey> due to special issues i need to be able to boot without an initrd.  the root fs is ext2  what boot prams need to be passed to the kernel to get this to work ?
[09:30] <Kyral> X going to hell in a handbasket?
[09:30] <Seveas> pidentd is good for ident
[09:30] <Kyral> intelikey: just compile ext2 into your kernel
[09:30] <jahshua> pident ?
[09:31] <jahshua> followed by my ident ?
[09:31] <Papoose> Is there a help room for complete newbies?
[09:31] <intelikey> kyral you mean it isn't already there ?
[09:31] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, oh.. sorry. missed your tell about packages..
[09:31] <CaptainMorgan> coool
[09:31] <Seveas> Papoose, you're there :)
[09:31] <Madpilot> Papoose: this is it
[09:31] <jahshua> Papoose im as noob as it gets :)
[09:31] <andrei> Seveas, installed fglrx from your repo. How to enable it ?
[09:31] <Kyral> intelikey: the kernel contains NOTHING until you compile it lol
[09:31] <Papoose> cool
[09:31] <jahshua> welcome
[09:31] <jahshua> :)
[09:31] <Kyral> intelikey: I believe that the Ubuntu Kernel is HIGHLY modular
[09:32] <intelikey> hmmm ok.   ty.
[09:32] <eruin> I can't wait till the day I'll never see the gnome splash screen again comes
[09:32] <Kyral> lol
[09:32] <Kyral> eruin: why?
[09:32] <Papoose> thank you ... First crack at Linux ever today
[09:32] <Seveas> andrei, if you already use fglrx, a reboot will do it (if you installed both the kernel module AND the xorg driver
[09:32] <intelikey> maybe i can use a debian kernel ?
[09:32] <eruin> because I really, really, dislike splash screens ;)
[09:32] <dooglus> eruin: you can turn that splash screen off in system->prefs->session
[09:32] <andrei> Seveas, k
[09:32] <Kyral> intelikey: compiling a kernel ain't scary
[09:32] <eruin> dooglus, I'm most enthusiastic about what they actually MEAN by removing it though
[09:33] <eruin> dooglus, like making the login spiffy :)
[09:33] <CaptainMorgan> the new Breezy splash or loadup screen where it loads equipment/software (ok) black with a gold ubuntu logo is a nice upgrade from 5.4 textual load up..
[09:33] <Kyral> I actually like the text loadup
[09:33] <Madpilot> Papoose: welcome to the Light Side, then :P
[09:33] <intelikey> kyral i'll have to cross compile it...   and on a p2
[09:33] <dooglus> Papoose: how are you finding it?
[09:33] <Papoose> Madpilot Thank you
[09:33] <CaptainMorgan> Kyral,  yuck :)
[09:33] <Kyral> Makes me feel good to see those "OK!" fly by in the boot sequence
[09:34] <Papoose> well it is still installing
[09:34] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, yeah, we have to sacrifice our self-nerd in order to make other people realise ubuntu is a rocking desktop system
[09:34] <eruin> ;)
[09:34] <dooglus> Papoose: ah, I see
[09:34] <greenpenguin13> the old breezy splash was nice :p
[09:34] <CaptainMorgan> Kyral, Breezy has it nice now... gui and text loadup..
[09:34] <Seveas> * Startin Kyrals brain              [FAILED]
[09:34] <Kyral> Seveas: WTF?
[09:34] <bulio>  if I have one HD bay, but the PC supports 2 HDs, can I copy my ubuntu install over to the bigger HD, and replace this one?
[09:34] <jahshua> Papoose: i just installed for the first time last night
[09:34] <Seveas> Kyral, ;)
[09:34] <andrei> Seveas, I've installed both driver and kernel but, still the infobar appeared, noticing me about this. (Warning: More packages are neccessary! WARNING: You installed a new xorg driver from a 3rd party source You need to install the accompanying kernel module for X to remain functional. You can do this with the command . sudo apt-get install fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r) . If this can't find any packages you need to update your kernel to the latest Ubuntu versio
[09:34] <andrei> n. Do all of this BEFORE rebooting! . For questions: mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:34] <andrei> ) Hope I've installed it correctly.
[09:34] <eruin> Kyral, not to worry, probably just an init bug
[09:34] <Kyral> bah...
[09:34] <eruin> ie the underlying genes ;)
[09:34] <Seveas> andrei, please don't paste in here
[09:34] <jahshua> Seveas can you explain pident ?
[09:35] <jahshua> please
[09:35] <Seveas> jahshua, apt-get install pidentd
[09:35] <Seveas> done.
[09:35] <andrei> Seveas, ok. sorry.
[09:35] <jahshua> cool
[09:35] <Seveas> andrei, but yeah, you should be ok now
[09:35] <jahshua> thank you
[09:35] <Kyral> ln -s /dev/null /Seveas/brain ;P
[09:35] <intelikey> i can't compile a kernel.... i don't have the source.
[09:35] <Kyral> intelikey: kernel.org
[09:35] <CaptainMorgan> how to install wpassum... ? didn't locate it in syn....
[09:35] <bulio>  if I have one HD bay, but the PC supports 2 HDs, can I copy my ubuntu install over to the bigger HD, and replace this one?
[09:35] <intelikey> that's on the net this is dialup/
[09:35] <Seveas> cat /dev/urandom /proc/Kyral/core
[09:35] <Seveas> cat /dev/urandom >  /proc/Kyral/core
[09:35] <Luis_m> Hi
[09:36] <Papoose> Does GNOME come with the downloadabe ISO?
[09:36] <Kyral> Seveas: I'm already random
[09:36] <andrei> i'll reboot now
[09:36] <eruin> Papoose, yes
[09:36] <Kyral> GNOME?
[09:36] <Kyral> or Ubuntu?
[09:36] <eruin> Papoose, unless you select the kubuntu iso, which comes with kde
[09:36] <viktor> wich other does exist uncept gnoe and kde ??
[09:36] <Papoose> I went to ubuntu webpage anddownloaded the iso
[09:36] <viktor> gnome and kde*
[09:36] <eruin> anyone else noticed the lack of _CD_ isos at cdimage.u.c ?
[09:37] <greenpenguin13> the whitespace programming langauge how random...
[09:37] <eruin> Papoose, tell me the name of the .iso file
[09:37] <jahshua> Seveas i ahve to get root to do that right
[09:37] <KurtKraut> I've installed with a huge effort xvidcap on Breezy. But when I click on RECORD the program crashes. This has been only reported with Ubuntu but nobody gave a solution yet. Does any one have a suggestion ?
[09:37] <Papoose> kde is default?
[09:37] <Kyral> viktor: you mean WM?
[09:37] <jahshua> :o
[09:37] <jahshua> arghhg
[09:37] <Madpilot> jahshua: sudo
[09:37] <eruin> Papoose, if you downloaded the ubuntu iso, it includes gnome, which is the lovely default
[09:37] <jahshua> hold on itll come to me
[09:37] <jahshua> yes!
[09:37] <jahshua> haha
[09:37] <CaptainMorgan> searches came up empty for wpassum...
[09:37] <Kyral> Papoose: Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu all are the same, except for the default config
[09:37] <Madpilot> !tell jahshua about sudo
[09:38] <viktor> kyral yes =)
[09:38] <bulio>  if I have one HD bay, but the PC supports 2 HDs, can I copy my ubuntu install over to the bigger HD, and replace this one?
[09:38] <CaptainMorgan> google had nothing
[09:38] <Papoose> eruin yes I downloaded Ubuntu5.10.install
[09:38] <eruin> Papoose, then yes, you'll have gnome :)
[09:38] <jahshua> itcouldnt find packeage pidentd
[09:38] <jahshua> it couldnt find packeage pidentd
[09:39] <Kyral> viktor: oh....XFCE, ENlightenment, Fluxbox, Blackbox, FVWM, IceWM, Windowmaker, Sawfish, Openbox, Twm, Mezzo...
[09:39] <levander> Anybody know how to verify if this drive is a Barracude 7200.7?  http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/118283/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs
[09:39] <eruin> there should be a section on the downloads page on ubuntu.com about "how to burn an iso"
[09:39] <bulio> can I install KDE for Ubuntu?
[09:39] <cramlow> anyone know if i install another distro over ubuntu, say like gentoo, will i loose my media files?
[09:39] <eruin> for windows users and linux users alike, with screenshots
[09:39] <viktor> cool =)
[09:39] <levander> bulio: check kubuntu
[09:40] <Kyral> bulio: Yes, easy
[09:40] <lightbright> bulio: indeed, but why would you?
[09:40] <viktor> is anyone of them looking better then KDE ??
[09:40] <bulio> ok, but can I install it to my current ubuntu?
[09:40] <eruin> cramlow, not if you have your media files on a different partition
[09:40] <mrkoje> eruin,  if ubuntu doesn't havea  tutorial on how I know google does somewhere
[09:40] <viktor> kyral
[09:40] <Seveas> lightbright, :)
[09:40] <Kyral> bulio: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <levander> cramlow: you can't typically install one distribution over another
[09:40] <eruin> mrkoje, yes, but that's not a friendly way to greet users
[09:40] <Madpilot> viktor: Gnome looks better than KDE :P
[09:40] <cramlow> they are on hda6 ithing
[09:40] <Kyral> viktor: Like a LOT of things in Linux, its all a matter of opinion
[09:40] <naddar> hello all, the full version of ubuntu is it ok?
[09:40] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[09:40] <eruin> mrkoje, we should aim for the best usability - all the way from first sight of u.com to running ubuntu system
[09:40] <Seveas> !start a desktop war
[09:40] <Ubugtu> Rumor has it start a desktop war is twm, Seveas
[09:40] <mrkoje> naddar,  what do you mean by "ok"?
[09:40] <Seveas> meh
[09:41] <Kyral> hahaha twm
[09:41] <xfree> bulio, i see you ask about move your current install to new harddisk right?
[09:41] <Seveas> Ubugtu, you broken
[09:41] <Ubugtu> Eep! *crash*
[09:41] <lightbright> bulio: indeed, but why would you when you have Gnome?  Gnome is more stable
[09:41] <SAM_theman> is there a appication editor for kde??
[09:41] <SAM_theman> like smeg?
[09:41] <naddar> hardware ect
[09:41] <naddar> speed
[09:41] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[09:41] <bulio> xfree: yeah
[09:41] <cramlow> i am wanting to dump ppc ubuntu because i can't figure out how to get wmp files to play..i ve tried to intsall mplayer to no avil
[09:41] <Kyral> lightbright: No starting a war
[09:41] <Seveas> SAM_theman, smeg works for kde too
[09:41] <eruin> oh, please, not another kde/gnome fight
[09:41] <bulio> I don't have the HD yet
[09:41] <naddar> is there a 64bits
[09:41] <anthony_> does anybody know how to give a whole folder(and all of the files inside) write permissions
[09:41] <viktor> madpilot well i think it does to but i dont like that it have its "start menu" in the top
[09:41] <mrkoje> eruin,  I could make a page on the wiki I suppose but what programs do people use?
[09:41] <eruin> we had enough of opinionated fools after the Linus outburst :)
[09:41] <bulio> I'm buying it within A week
[09:41] <mrkoje> eruin,  On Windows I have used Nero before but thats about it...
[09:41] <xfree> bulio, you can do it from backup this one then restore it to new one
[09:42] <eruin> mrkoje, a I'd be willing to bet nero for one
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> anthony, chmod -r <folder> -R
[09:42] <viktor> kyral okaje =) well i want to change the whole look on my ubuntu install
[09:42] <nanno> is anyone having problems accessing ebay?
[09:42] <Madpilot> viktor: you can customize Gnome's panels - including where it puts the menus - if you want to
[09:42] <anthony_> thanks :)
[09:42] <Madeye> guys, the battary charge monitor is stupid, lol it's 0% for two hours now, Any more accurate applet or application that show the barrary charge level /
[09:42] <eruin> mrkoje, my windows knowledge is a bit rusty ;)
[09:42] <cramlow> can someone help me play win meida files on my ppc
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> anthony, sorry.. +w
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> not -r
[09:42] <Papoose> Was it bad to intall the base system if i do't know what I am doing "ie server"?
[09:42] <Fujoor> hey, im trying out the ubuntu live cd, how can i get a transparent terminal? do i have to install another one?
[09:42] <bulio> how would I backup this one?
[09:42] <anthony_> k
[09:42] <xfree> Madeye, is this toshiba ?
[09:42] <CaptainMorgan> anthony, so chmod +w <folder> -R
[09:42] <mrkoje> eruin,  I don't know of any other good burning programs on windows :)
[09:42] <Madeye> xfree, you won, yes it is toshiba
[09:42] <Kyral> Fujoor: you cannot get "true" transparency
[09:42] <Madpilot> Papoose: server install has no GUI - it doesn't install Gnome or KDE or anything...
[09:43] <Madeye> xfree, it's toshiba Tecra s2.
[09:43] <eruin> Papoose, no, you generally just have to press "enter" through the entire install, but be sure to read what the installer tells you :)
[09:43] <viktor> madpilot okay :S well im a newbie in linux :P i just want it to look clean and pretty dark colored and much transparently
[09:43] <cramlow> try a search for free cd burn software i think one is called cdxp
[09:43] <Fujoor> kyral: i know, not true, but still just so that the background is visible
[09:43] <CaptainMorgan> viktor, dark.. .
[09:43] <lightbright> Kyral: no falsely accusing others again, ok?
[09:43] <Papoose> OK so can I install Gnome once I install base system?
[09:43] <eruin> Kyral, oi, xcompmgr ;)
[09:43] <Madpilot> Fujoor: in Gnome Terminal, Edit menu -> Current Profile
[09:43] <cramlow> no one will help me get wmp going on my ppc ubuntu?
[09:43] <viktor> captainmorgan well darker than it is original :P hard to explain
[09:43] <eruin> Papoose, if you just go with the default install, gnome will be installed
[09:44] <xfree> Madeye, my firend have one :) like you , toshbia use smart battary
[09:44] <cramlow> pleasy
[09:44] <waseem> hi does anyone know a user friendly program that i can use to directly connect to any wireless network instead of typing dozens of commands in the terminal?
[09:44] <eruin> Papoose, you won't have to tell it to
[09:44] <bulio> xfree: how would I backup this one?
[09:44] <Fujoor> kyral: cant believe i missed that
[09:44] <merly> ok, successfully reinstalled the 32 bit version of ubuntu; rt2500 can ping the router, but nothing outside my local network. How do I fix this?
[09:44] <Fujoor> kyral: thank you
[09:44] <Papoose> it just took so long to install base sytem on this skethy pc :)
[09:44] <Kyral> cramlow: You mean Windows Media?
[09:44] <xfree> Madeye, and it maybe not support it like i see it
[09:44] <SAM_theman> samuelp@BlackHawk:~$ /usr/games/scorched3d
[09:44] <SAM_theman> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[09:44] <rob954> viktor: "well i think it does to but i dont like that it have its "start menu" in the top" you can grab and pull it to the bottom - well, in Breezy anyway
[09:44] <xfree> bulio, wait :)
[09:44] <Madpilot> Papoose: what CPU & how much RAM?
[09:44] <cramlow> Kyle_S, yes sir!
[09:45] <_willcooke_> Hello all.  Wierd problem!  I've just re-installed breezy to try the 64 bit version, and when I first booted my sound card (sb live emu10k1 drivers) worked fine, now suddenly it tells me I have no sound card, any ideas?
[09:46] <_jason> _willcooke_, are you still using the first user you created?
[09:46] <aTypical> Someone asked about errors I was experiencing on Dapper.  So far I have a problem using 'Add Applications' from the Applications menu and I received an error while trying to use Opera.
[09:46] <navarone> I am trying to remove directory from my home directory. It is backup of Music folder and is not empty...which command do i use to delete folder? I have tried the rmdir with ignore  fail on no empty flag but it did not seem to do anything. would like to get rid of it as it is over 2gb and now redundant
[09:46] <Papoose> Madpilot 300Mhz PII (i was too excited to try so i picked up an old pc before new one gets here)
[09:46] <mrkoje> navarone,  rmdir
[09:46] <_jason> navarone, rm -r
[09:46] <Kyral> navarone: rm -rf
[09:46] <navarone> okie...jsuta sec
[09:46] <mrkoje> navarone,  sorry... didn't read your whole post
[09:46] <xfree> bulio, you can do this by two way 1-command line interface 2-GUI , and you can find it on ubuntu how-to
[09:46] <anthony_> has anybody gotten nero to work via wine?
[09:47] <Madpilot> Papoose: provided it's got at least 128Mb RAM, Gnome will run, but it'll be slow...
[09:47] <Kyral> anthony_: why WOULD you
[09:47] <_willcooke_> _jason, yup!
[09:47] <ToiletPaper> Amazing, over 600 people in an IRC server
[09:47] <ToiletPaper> and growing
[09:47] <Kyral> anthony_: k3b owns all
[09:47] <bulio> thanks
[09:47] <eggman_> theres a native to linux version of nero
[09:47] <muzik> heya peoples, does anyone know how to set mplayer so that when ya hit fullscreen, it stretches the video?
[09:47] <Madeye> xfree, sorry d/c, yes it's toshiba tecra s2
[09:47] <CaptainMorgan> ToiletPaper, few months ago... not even 20..
[09:47] <anthony_> no idea
[09:47] <lightbright> Kyral: no startting wars now
[09:47] <anthony_> k3b??
[09:47] <XavierGr> Hi all! Just booted first time to Ubuntu!
[09:47] <Ubugtu> I guess k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there, anthony_
[09:47] <navarone> must it be sudo if in my home directory?...also Music folder has permissions inherited from windows fodler
[09:47] <ToiletPaper> Oh, Linux
[09:47] <lightbright> anthony: use Gnomebaker
[09:47] <Kyral> lightbright: I think EVERYONE agrees that k3b is the best in this case :D
[09:47] <anthony_> i use GNOME
[09:47] <xfree> Madeye, type "acpi" on command line
[09:47] <CryptoQuick> Anybody have experience with dual-booting on a Mac? My bootloader is having difficulty getting OS X to load.
[09:48] <_jason> _willcooke_, okay I don't know then :)  I jsut asked because I ahd the same problem and it was because my new user wasn't a part of the 'audio' group
[09:48] <Kyral> anthony_: doesn't matter
[09:48] <xfree> Madeye, to see if it support acpi
[09:48] <anthony_> ok ill check it out
[09:48] <_willcooke_> _jason, :)
[09:48] <Kyral> anthony_: There is no such thing as a "KDE app" or a "GNOME App"
[09:48] <andrei> Seveas, screwed it :)
[09:48] <Madeye> xfree,      Battery 1: charging, 0%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge.
[09:48] <Madpilot> anthony_: I use Gnome too, and k3b is the only burning app I get consistantly good burns with...
[09:48] <mwe> it matters if you have somwhat limitid ram since the kdelibs are loaded
[09:48] <lightbright> Kyral: you spoken to EVERY SINGLE Ubuntu user have you to conclude that?  No, not "everyone" agrees that k3b is best in this case!  DONT generalise when you have no idea
[09:48] <Madeye> xfelon,  will never fully charge?!@$
[09:48] <Madeye> xfree
[09:49] <anthony_> lol i like gnome baker
[09:49] <sebastian> Is there a easy way to update Ubuntu's Firefox 1.0.7  to Firefox 1.5?
[09:49] <Kyral> lightbright: its more of a sure thing than KDE vs. GNOME
[09:49] <andrei> Seveas, i have put fglrx instead of ati, and all the other stuff. Shouldn't I ? Should I left ati there ?
[09:49] <lightbright> anthony: use Gnomebaker it works great like Nero.  No need for Nero
[09:49] <lightbright> Kyral: thats YOUR opinion only
[09:49] <viktor> man jsut because im trying to find some scrrenshot i cant :P
[09:49] <navarone> Okies...ty kindly...that worked  likea  charm
[09:49] <xfree> Madeye, i have acer aspire but i will try to help you ok
[09:49] <lightbright> sebastian: why would you want to update firefox from 1.0.7?
[09:49] <Madeye> xfree, Thanks :-)
[09:49] <Kyral> anthony_: Idea, install both and pick the one you like ;P
[09:49] <CryptoQuick> Can someone help me with setting up my yaboot.conf file? I don't think I'm pointing to OS X correctly.
[09:50] <anthony_> ok thanks
[09:50] <Kyral> lightbright: better?
[09:50] <sebastian> Yes update from 1.0.7  to 1.5
[09:50] <anthony_> im jelous because i dont have an osx box
[09:50] <sebastian> 1.5 being the latest version
[09:50] <anthony_> i have tiger-x86 though:)
[09:50] <eruin> Kyral, I disagree alot judging by the amount of broken audio discs I have around after them getting some k3b love ;)
[09:50] <sebastian> 1.5 was released about three weeks ago. and there is no Ubuntu build yet
[09:50] <xfree> Madeye, no problem , did you search on ubuntuforums or on google or else where "before i do this "
[09:50] <Kyral> eruin: lol
[09:50] <CryptoQuick> anthony_: Naughty.
[09:50] <lightbright> Kyral: there are thousands of Ubuntu users, so how can you claim "everyone" would agree with your comments?  Have you personally rang every Ubuntu user and asked them?
[09:50] <anthony_> lol
[09:51] <Madeye> xfree, to be honest, this is my first ever laptop, and I don't know what search for
[09:51] <lightbright> eruin: yeah
[09:51] <Kyral> lightbright: I apologize, in my circle k3b is preferred. I already told him to try both. Drop it
[09:51] <lightbright> Kyral: eruin doesnt agree with you, so your comment about "everyone" is false.
[09:51] <anthony_> thanks by the way
[09:51] <mwe> sebastian: it will never go into breezy since it would break more than 50 apps that use gecko and stuff
[09:51] <lightbright> Kyral: ok dropped :)
[09:51] <Kyral> I personally like k3b for its feature to check the MD5Sum of the disc against the ISO
[09:51] <sebastian> why is that?
[09:51] <lightbright> Kyral: Gnomebaker does that too
[09:51] <SAM_theman> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[09:52] <eruin> Kyral, that's indeed a nice feature
[09:52] <lightbright> Kyral: did you know they both use cdrecord?
[09:52] <amz0> Hi folks I have a problem using my logiteck kb & mouse via a usb hub. It works ok connected directly, could someone give me some pointers on how to get the hub working? Thanks
[09:52] <Kyral> lightbright: yes
[09:52] <eruin> I use nautilus for isos and banshee for music myself though
[09:52] <sebastian> why would it brake more than 50 apps that use Gecko?
[09:52] <lightbright> Kyral: ok good :)
[09:52] <navarone> Kyral...I prefer gnomebaker...simply cos I imagine Keebler Elves baking in mp3 goodness...<s>
[09:52] <xfree> Madeye, i will help you on this "wait"
[09:52] <sproingie> all the apps using gecko would have to be rebuilt
[09:52] <lightbright> navarone: hehe good one ;)
[09:52] <mwe> sebastian: because they are compiled against gecko from 1.0.7. see http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20051212#3 for reference
[09:52] <Kyral> sebastian: because Firefox provides HTML rendering for Ubuntu
[09:52] <anthony_> oh yeah, does anybody know any GOOD mac themes/skins for GNOME??
[09:52] <Madeye> xfree, thanks in advance, i'll ve waiting
[09:52] <CryptoQuick> Yeah, so OS X is the bomb. It's so smooth and the UI is just amazing; intuitive and consistent. Too bad I can't boot into it...
[09:52] <sproingie> actually i thought gecko was unbundled from firefox for gnome apps
[09:53] <lightbright> Kyral: see?  most seem to point to Gnomebaker as I said :)
[09:53] <sebastian> So if I want 1.5 i'll have to install it myself I guess?  and if I don't want apps to brake to also keep 1.0.7?
[09:53] <CaptainMorgan> viktor, dark - http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/CaptainMorganRawks/withpanels.png < with panels and without > http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c68/CaptainMorganRawks/withoutpanels.png
[09:53] <Kyral> lightbright: dropped remember? ;P
[09:53] <CaptainMorgan> hidden panels.. are sweet..
[09:53] <_jason> sebastian, pretty much
[09:53] <Kyral> Personally I find my self in an interesting spot as an Ubuntu user
[09:53] <lightbright> Kyral: ok :)
[09:53] <anthony_> oh yeah, does anybody know any GOOD mac themes/skins for GNOME??
[09:53] <_jason> sebastian, if you really want firefox1.5 there is a wiki entry explaining the process 'firefoxnewversion'
[09:53] <sproingie> it shouldn't take an app to burn an image.  drag a .iso onto the cd device.  done.
[09:54] <Kyral> I basically use what is best described as "MetaBuntu"
[09:54] <lightbright> anthony: can you repeat that? :P
[09:54] <anthony_> lol
[09:54] <sebastian> where is that jason?
[09:54] <lightbright> anthony: ;)
[09:54] <_jason> Ubugtu, tell sebastian about firefox15
[09:54] <Kyral> anthony_: lemme dig in my themes folder
[09:54] <anthony_> k thanks
[09:54] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: "Communications Scaner?"
[09:54] <lightbright> sebastian: are you an ecxperienced linux user?
[09:54] <CaptainMorgan> CryptoQuick, sure... ;)
[09:54] <Kyral> anthony_: I THINK Metativo is good
[09:54] <merly> i'm sorry if anyone responded before, bersirc (on windows machine) doesn't highlight by nick any idea which setting to change if i can ping my router but not anything outside of network? I'm using the same router on this machine and it works
[09:54] <eruin> excuse me, but couldn't you just use the official ff1.5 build off moz.org?
[09:54] <andrei> anthony, maybe you'll like this one http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1151
[09:54] <_jason> sebastian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:55] <lightbright> sebastian: then dont start breaking ubuntu with that stuff
[09:55] <eruin> what IS it with people who want gnome to look like a mac?
[09:55] <xfree> Madeye, http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba.html
[09:55] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, not me :)
[09:55] <Kyral> Personally I have Fluxbox tweaked out in a nice Milk theme
[09:55] <sebastian> I am a sort of experienced user yeah
[09:55] <CaptainMorgan> eruin, minimalist here
[09:55] <Kyral> eruin: I passed through the phase
[09:55] <sproingie> merly: use icechat.  it hilights
[09:55] <khermans> Does anyone else notice that the ubuntu-calendar package does not place the updating wallpapers into the Desktop Background selection choices?
[09:55] <navarone> eruin...I'm just glad it doesn't look like Win2k
[09:55] <Madeye> xfree, thanks, checking...
[09:55] <_jason> sebastian, yeah, if you are not comfortable with what any of the commands mean make sure you look them up before you proceed
[09:55] <anthony_> wow kyral i like that one
[09:56] <anthony_> thanks
[09:56] <anthony_> any others?
[09:56] <xfree> Madeye, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/toshiba.html
[09:56] <eruin> Kyral, me too, until I got a mac and realized it's foolish ;)
[09:56] <anthony_> lol lucky
[09:56] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: It would be so much cooler if you used K.
[09:56] <Kyral> I have pictures on UbuntuForums
[09:56] <navarone> merly...yes IceChat is by far best windows chat client...besides xcaht windows version of course
[09:56] <Kyral> my latest is entitled "What The Flux?"
[09:56] <amz0> Could anyone help me out with getting a usb hub working in ubuntu? thanks
[09:56] <Kuyaedz> I'm trying to compile gaim 2 beta and I'm getting complaints about not having GTK < 2.0, although I have libglib2.0-0, libglib2.0-dev installed.  Any ideas?
[09:56] <sebastian> anyway thanks guys for the Firefox help stuff.  ,but I am about to go, but before I  go.  what's that command again that lists all the GUI's widow managers etc?
[09:57] <CaptainMorgan> CryptoQuick, K ? what's the diff ?
[09:57] <merly> sproingie , navarone - i will switch. but any ideas on my ubuntu networking problem? :)
[09:57] <munzir> hi gurus, in synaptic I see there is a column with an red circle icon besides some packages, what does it stands for please?
[09:57] <_jason> Kyral, were you able to setup the artwiz fonts for fluxbox?
[09:57] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: Kubuntu, KDE. It's way cooler.
[09:57] <navarone> merly...I am sure there is someone better qualified to help with networking issues...I am not unfortunately
[09:57] <CaptainMorgan> hmm..
[09:57] <Kyral> _jason: what are Artwiz fonts?
[09:57] <sproingie> merly: didn't see it, sorry
[09:57] <anthony_> you can install KDE on regualr ubuntu
[09:57] <koniec> hello. I insert a dvd of my region into the computer and it is automatically played in totem, but this does not happen for a homemade disc from another region, why is that?
[09:57] <anthony_> so you can have both
[09:58] <merly> sproingie - i can ping my wireless router, but can't ping anything outside local network
[09:58] <Kyral> Kuyaedz: you need libgtk2.0-dev
[09:58] <sproingie> merly: your router isn't
[09:58] <merly> sproingie i know internet is up cause i'm on the same wireless router on this windows box.
[09:58] <SAM_theman> brb
[09:58] <_jason> Kyral, a lot of the fluxbox themes use them I believe.  When I tried fluxbox my fonts were huge so I thought it could be because I didn't install those fonts.  Maybe I just need to edit the font size, but it didn't seem normal.  Did you have a similar experience?
[09:58] <anthony_> peace out everybody
[09:59] <khermans> merly, check your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:59] <Kyral> _jason: I dunno
[09:59] <khermans> merly, try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:59] <sproingie> merly: wireless ... do you have any wired ports on your router you can plug into and test?
[09:59] <_jason> Kyral, but your fluxbox looks fine after setting up your custom theme?
[09:59] <Kyral> _jason: yah
[09:59] <merly> khermans - pinged <IP_ADDRESS> , no good. 3 transmitted, 0 rec'd.
[10:00] <Kyral> and I don't have them installed (well NOW I do)
[10:00] <Kyral> hey ogra
[10:00] <_jason> Kyral, do you use the repo version or compile your own?
[10:00] <merly> sproingie - like i say, this computer (windows machine) is connected through that wireless router.
[10:00] <khermans> merly, your route is working?
[10:00] <Kyral> _jason: repo
[10:00] <merly> khermans see above
[10:00] <merly> khermans i am connected through the router on a different windows computer
[10:00] <khermans> merly, sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:00] <bshumate> merly: sounds like you have no default route / gateway setup on the box
[10:00] <_jason> Kyral, alright, thanks.  I guess I'll try fluxbox again and see if I can get it set up.
[10:00] <CryptoQuick> so osx has this thing that lets u boot into tha computer and now it boots into this thing and I don't know where the apple menu is and my dock is gone OMG WAHT DO I DO??
[10:00] <khermans> merly, or whateve ryour router ip is
[10:01] <sproingie> merly: yes, and it's probably linux's less than stellar support for wireless.  on the other hand it could be a dhcp issue or firewall rules.  test wired first and see if it's broken or not
[10:01] <CaptainMorgan> kubuntu seems almost Mac like
[10:01] <merly> khermans - could it be <IP_ADDRESS> ? I think that is the gateway address...
[10:01] <khermans> yes
[10:01] <Kyral> I love that you can restart Fluxbox and not close X to do it :D
[10:01] <eruin> killall metacity ;p
[10:01] <CryptoQuick> CaptainMorgan: It's more like Windows, actually.
[10:01] <merly> sproingie - i was connected through the same router on 64 bit ubuntu before i re-installed 32 bit. so i have hope. :v)
[10:01] <eruin> would be the equivalent ;)
[10:01] <khermans> merly, then try <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> again
[10:02] <sproingie> merly: probably configuration then.  i've thankfully not had to deal with wireless pretty much ever
[10:02] <sethk> Kyral, you can restart any window manager without closing X
[10:02] <merly> khermans - when i try to add default gateway it says "SI0CADDRT: File exists
[10:02] <khermans> not gateway
[10:02] <khermans> gw
[10:02] <sethk> Kyral, there may not be a menu item to do it, but from the command line you can restart kwm, or the various gnome window managers
[10:02] <CaptainMorgan> CryptoQuick, that too.. Vindoz.. nah thanks :)
[10:02] <Kyral> sethk: ah! But will the programs stay active? :D
[10:02] <sethk> I need to bye a small rack that doesn't cost a fortune
[10:02] <merly> khermans - i typte sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:03] <CaptainMorgan> sethk Montreal :)
[10:03] <khermans> merly, but try removing it before updating -- sudo route del default gw
[10:03] <sethk> Kyral, strangely enough, they do.  I've tested it with kde.  Not sure about gnome
[10:03] <eruin> cvs.gnome.org is bloody slow atm
[10:03] <sproingie> sethk: i wouldn't recommend it for home.  rack boxes are *noisy*
[10:03] <Kyral> sethk: ah cool
[10:03] <eruin> Kyral, ofcourse they will ;)
[10:03] <Kyral> I plan to install KDE so I can offer Kubuntu Support :D
[10:03] <merly> khermans - it gave me a whole bunch of usage information, like a help file...
[10:04] <Kyral> Also a hobby to make all my WMs use the same themes :D
[10:04] <khermans> merly, route del default
[10:04] <khermans> merly, route -n shows your reouting table
[10:04] <CryptoQuick> Kyral, with a name like that, I would assume that you already ran KDE.
[10:04] <khermans> merly, check it
[10:04] <eruin> haven't any of you heard of NetworkManager?
[10:04] <Kyral> ....
[10:04] <eruin> CryptoQuick, haha
[10:04] <Kyral> CryptoQuick: I run Fluxbox
[10:04] <eruin> Fluxbox users tend to use alot of QT apps
[10:05] <eruin> in my experience
[10:05] <CryptoQuick> Kyral, I'll check that out.
[10:05] <Kyral> eruin: I use GAIM, Epiphany, and BMP
[10:05] <Karlabobi> I have a bit of a weird problem, if anyone knows how to solve it, cool, if you don't, not-so-cool :D Here goes: The ubuntu system thingy has it's values all mixed up, it counts 1sec as 4secs, the same happens when watching video-feed with vlc or while watching flashs, always 4x and it's a bit annoying :D
[10:05] <khermans> merly, and try network-admin if you get lost
[10:05] <Kris> ok back, after upgrading to breezy I still cannot get into gnome
[10:05] <Mike_2> What is the official way to fix snd_hda_intel from freezing hotplug on boot? I've blacklisted the module but now have no sound
[10:05] <Kyral> and Irssi in an XTerm
[10:05] <CryptoQuick> Kyral,BMP is the only thing that plays music correctly on my machine. DI.fm... :D
[10:05] <eruin> merly, are you running breezy and gnome?
[10:06] <amb> If I build a kernel with make-kpkg, I lose the boot splash screen. How do I avoid that?
[10:06] <merly> eruin yes i am running breezy and gnome
[10:06] <Kris> how do I get into gnome from a shell prompt? none of the earlier suggestions work
[10:06] <khermans> Kris, gdm ?
[10:06] <Kris> I tried gdm nothing happens
[10:06] <Mike_2> Better question would be, is anyone having sucess in shound/video acceleration with the intel915 chipset?
[10:06] <khermans> Kris, srartx
[10:06] <eruin> merly, okay then. add "deb http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ ./" to /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update, apt-get install network-manager
[10:06] <bshumate> Kris: startx
[10:06] <khermans> Kris, startx
[10:07] <micke123> Hi, I just dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper, and now the xserver won't start anymore, I get the error "libc_wrapper passed invalid FILE to xf86printf"
[10:07] <micke123> has anybody seen this?
[10:07] <Kris> startx does not exist
[10:07] <munzir> hi gurus, in synaptic I see there is a column with an red circle icon besides some packages, what does it stands for please? Also, when i click "Status" there is an option of "Installed (local or obsolete)" what's this?
[10:07] <merly> eruin - i am not connected to the internet at all...
[10:07] <CryptoQuick> Does anybody find it strange that in KDE you use Expl-- Konqueror, your web browser, to also explo-- manage files?
[10:07] <merly> on that comp.
[10:07] <nickrud> Mike_2, that may be http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15465
[10:07] <khermans> Kris, sounds like something is wrong
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Ubuntu bug #15465: Hotplug hangs on boot trying to load snd-hda-intel Product: Ubuntu, Component: linux, Severity: normal, Assigned to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Status: RESOLVED, Resolution: DUPLICATE http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15465
[10:07] <Karlabobi> An example of the problem is that the clock now says that the time is:
[10:07] <Karlabobi> 02:50, when in fact it's  23:09 and I set the clock about 2h ago :D
[10:07] <js_> can i install the base system from the internet? my cd is acting up and gives i/o errors.. but i can load the installer ok
[10:07] <CaptainMorgan> munzir, guru - thanks :)
[10:07] <eruin> merly, oh, right ;)
[10:07] <munzir> CaptainMorgan, ;)
[10:08] <merly> eruin , khermans - i'm trying dhcp
[10:08] <Kris> yes, something is definitely wrong
[10:08] <eruin> merly, does dhclient eth0 work?
[10:08] <eruin> where eth0 is your card ofcourse ;)
[10:08] <khermans> merly, you already have an Ip if you are getting replies from the router
[10:09] <sethk> eruin, hey, eth0 is _my_ card.  How did he get it?  :)
[10:09] <Kris> how do I find out what's wrong and fix it?
[10:09] <Kuyaedz> I've got libgtk2.0-dev installed now (issue for gaim 2 beta) and its still complaining.  I'm not sure what dependency I'm missing (this is why gaim should make .debs!)
[10:09] <Kris> >.<
[10:09] <eruin> sethk: I've got one too.. we stole yours, copied it, then put it back in your computer
[10:09] <eruin> ;)
[10:09] <sethk> Kris, you probably already answered this, but I just got here.  You ran startx?
[10:09] <merly> eruin - i get a "sit0: unknown hardware address type 776" that's probably bad, right?
[10:09] <merly> BRB, baby calling
[10:10] <CryptoQuick> Okay, well, obviously nobody can answer my question... So, I'm out, with the note: In Soviet Russia, the internet explores YOU!
[10:10] <Kris> yes, startx does not exist
[10:10] <bshumate> Kris: run : dpkg -l | grep xserver-common      get anything from that?
[10:10] <sethk> Kris, then you don't have gnome/x completely installed
[10:10] <CaptainMorgan> lol some chap on criticized me because he's never heard of Linux Breezy
[10:10] <navarone> merly> sit0 is ipv6 device I think
[10:10] <eruin> merly, sounds pretty bad... but oh, hum, err, try with eth0/eth1
[10:10] <khermans> Kris, i hope you used aptitude dist-upgrade for the move to breezy
[10:10] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, he criticized you because he never heard of it?
[10:11] <sethk> CaptainMorgan, that's an interesting approach
[10:11] <Kris> yes, version 6.8.2-77
[10:11] <sproingie> "Linux Breezy" ... maybe you meant "Ubuntu Breezy"
[10:11] <tidus_> hi there, can anyone tell me how to install real player 10 on ubuntu?
[10:11] <Kris> yes I used dist-upgrade
[10:11] <bshumate> Kris: so your X installation is borked somehow
[10:11] <khermans> Tidus, search wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:11] <koniec> hello. What should fstab look like for a DVD drive?
[10:12] <active-matrix> sudo apt-get install realplayer
[10:12] <khermans> Kris, did you use apt-get or aptitude?
[10:12] <eruin> I thought we've all been told not to use aptitude
[10:12] <khermans> Kris, aptitude is smarter
[10:12] <bshumate> Kris: what about: /usr/bin/startx
[10:12] <Kris> bshumate, exactly
[10:12] <CaptainMorgan> yes but sproingie it's assumed ..
[10:12] <khermans> eruin, where did you hear that
[10:12] <bshumate> Kris: maybe yer PATH is hosed or something
[10:12] <eruin> CaptainMorgan, no, "Linux" is assumed ;)
[10:12] <Kris> I used apt-get
[10:12] <merly> back...
[10:12] <Kris> startx does not exist within the filesystem in any way shape or form
[10:13] <CaptainMorgan> sure.. but he never heard of the distro.. whatever.. sorry.. I never used solaris nor have I used FreeBSD, but being a linux user, one hears of them..
[10:13] <CaptainMorgan> at least
[10:13] <sethk> Kris, the installation is definitely not complete.  Try using add applications, the simpler one (not synaptics) and add the gnome deskto
[10:13] <sethk> Kris, if necessary tell it to reinstall
[10:14] <sproingie> CaptainMorgan: knowing one's linux distributions doesn't really put one up many rungs on the evolutionary ladder
[10:14] <khermans> Kris, aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <xfree> is there something to follow dapper like on 1/03/2006 dapper cd 1 .... 1/4/2006 cd 2 ?
[10:14] <nerd> hi how do i upgrade to breezy?
[10:14] <CaptainMorgan> sproingie, sure.. but when this person assumes 'No one' has heard of it.. not just him..
[10:14] <khermans> nerd, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:14] <xfree> nerd, there are how-to on wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <eruin> xfree, ?
[10:15] <Kris> ok to do that I'm going to have to switch the net connection to the linux box brb
[10:15] <sproingie> wow no ubotu
[10:15] <khermans> nerd, chnage all references to Hoary as Breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list first
[10:15] <xfree> eruin, you want the full url ?
[10:15] <luiz> aeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[10:15] <luiz> suck my dick gays
[10:16] <DESiBELi> is archive.ubuntu.com down or why do i get "connection refused" when trying to install something
[10:16] <Kyral> ...
[10:16] <merly> eruin sproingie should i set up something under DNS?
[10:16] <selinium> Hi guys, when I a ripping my CD's I get great speed for the first rip, then less and less until I end up at around 3.6x speed. It there a buffer or something that needs emptying? Any ideas?
[10:16] <CaptainMorgan> anybody know a configuring wep would refuse a Linux system.. yet allow other OS's ? considering that keys', shared, and essid are a match ?
[10:16] <khermans> merly, best to use <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <eruin> xfree, err, maybe? didn't understand you
[10:16] <folki> Can anybody help me how can I add some dir to $PATH?
[10:16] <merly> khermans - right. so it won't help it i can't ping either of those, eh?
[10:17] <sethk> folki, export PATH=/some/new/directory:$PATH
[10:17] <merly> khermans - for some reason it won't take my "key" entry...
[10:17] <khermans> merly, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> are dns server
[10:17] <sethk> folki, if you want it to persist, add a line like that to $HOME/.bashrc
[10:17] <sproingie> merly: couldn't really say.  i wouldn't try doing dns stuff to troubleshoot, just traceroute google.com or something by its ip address
[10:17] <merly> khermans meaning - - i type 'sudo iwconfig ra0 key XXXXXXX' and then the key doesn't show up
[10:17] <xfree> time to go Zzz
[10:17] <khermans> i need coffee, brb, studying for finals
[10:18] <khermans> merly, use the netowrk-admin utility
[10:18] <CaptainMorgan> khermans, what you have for finals?
[10:18] <folki> thank
[10:18] <CaptainMorgan> mine are almost done..
[10:18] <khermans> CaptainMorgan, algorithms, scheme, discrete math
[10:18] <xfree> khermans, finals and you here :)
[10:18] <merly> khermans i did that too, but it still doesn't show up when you type iwconfig
[10:18] <dazel> when I try to run something using sudo I get: "daze is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[10:18] <dazel> How I should add something do sudoers?
[10:18] <CaptainMorgan> khermans, good luck ;)
[10:18] <js_> how can i install the base system from the internet?
[10:19] <CaptainMorgan> khermans, you have a good feeling about them?
[10:19] <xfree> dazel, i think vimsudo or something like that
[10:19] <khermans> CaptainMorgan, yea
[10:19] <_jason> dazel, use visudo and make sure you do it correctly
[10:19] <Kuyaedz> dazel: means you don't have permissons to run sudo commands.  I take it you're not the first user on the machien?
[10:19] <xfree> dazel, maybe sudoedit
[10:19] <khermans> dazel, nano -w /etc/sudoers manually if you dare
[10:19] <dazel> i know, that i should use visudo
[10:19] <dazel> yes i know
[10:19] <dazel> but how to add my name?
[10:19] <Goldfisch> dazel: Either your userid must be in /etc/sudoers, or one of the groups you belong to must be in it.
[10:20] <_jason> dazel, just read your question, just add your user to the 'admin' group
[10:20] <dazel> type daze after [admin]  ?
[10:20] <_jason> dazel, you'll need to use your original use who had sudo access to do that
[10:20] <Goldfisch> dazel: Is there a line like "%admin" in the /etc/sudoers file?
[10:20] <dazel> yes
[10:20] <klausos> someonde tell me how can i connetc ubuntu to internet for the first time
[10:20] <khermans> klausos, plug in a cable
[10:20] <dazel> write daze instead of %admin ?
[10:21] <_jason> dazel, no
[10:21] <dazel> so?
[10:21] <Ubugtu> Rumor has it so is there a way for me to mod the package, dazel
[10:21] <khermans> dazel, add yourself to the /etc/groups file in the admin section
[10:21] <Goldfisch> dazel: As root (since you don't haave sudo yet), type "vigw" to edit /etc/group. Then find the line with admin. Add your user id to the end of it.
[10:21] <dazel> ok
[10:21] <dazel> i'll try
[10:21] <chtamina> I've got a problem about ubuntu, can I ask here ?
[10:21] <folki> would somebody chat about something?
[10:21] <xandron_root> anyone with a tv capture card that uses the saa7134 chip? I need some help with it
[10:22] <intelikey> well i opened aptitude again.... of course that means i hosed the whole system...  ;/
[10:22] <Goldfisch> dazel: Sorry...the command is vigr (for editing /etc/group). vipw is for editing /etc/passwd.
[10:22] <bshumate> chtamina: all signs point to yes!
[10:22] <Goldfisch> Darn...he left before I could correct the command I gave him. Oh well.
[10:22] <merly> khermans - i must have done something right. because it's up now
[10:22] <nerd> khermans sources.list is read only
[10:23] <chtamina> you all have to excuse me, I've got a 33 secs lag...
[10:23] <intelikey> nerd sudo
[10:23] <merly_> khermans, W00t. welcome (back) to wireless!
[10:24] <merly_> :v)
[10:24] <Goldfisch> I'm using X-Chat right now. Does it have some indicator to tell me what lagging latency I have?
[10:24] <nerd> or chmod u+rwx sources.list intelikely
[10:24] <lisette> i have abiword 2.2.2 why can't i save as pdf?
[10:24] <rosen> Goldfisch, right below the list of people in the chatroom
[10:25] <rosen> Goldfisch, there is a bar and a sec/ms counter
[10:25] <KrisWood> ok did sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop and it did some stuff but still no gnome
[10:25] <Seveas> ubotflu, test
[10:25] <ubotflu> Stop poking me!
[10:25] <chtamina> I'm not sure my hardware is capable of playing divx file: I use ubuntu breezy 5.10,  pentium III 600 mhz, 190 MB ram, the video adapter is integrated with mother boards, the konsolle tells me it is an VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  530/620 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 2a)
[10:25] <Seveas> @unload infobot
[10:25] <Ubugtu> The operation succeeded.
[10:25] <Seveas> @part
[10:25] <intelikey> nerd or you could just chown $UESR / -R i guess  but it will break things.
[10:26] <munzir> Sirs, Next to my "Application" Menu in ubuntu is a red circle icon, is it ubuntu icon or what? Why this same icon can be seen next some packages in synaptic?
[10:26] <Goldfisch> rosen: Okay...I see a little pip of brown. Unfortunately, I see no time stamps. Do I need to turn on something?
[10:26] <merly> khermans, eruin , and others - thank you SO much for your assistance. hopefully that's the last linux install until dapper!
[10:26] <intelikey> rosen that can be turned on and off
[10:26] <_jason> munzir, yes, it's the ubuntu logo
[10:26] <Ophiocus> when i do arp -a i get a ? instead of the name of the (win) computer connected to my local lan nic , any idea what i may be doing wrong?
[10:26] <rosen> intelikey, yeah but if you're looking for it I bet you wouldnt turn it off ;)
[10:27] <jenda_very_busy> munzir, those are approved and officially supported packages
[10:27] <eruin> merly, you should be able to dist-upgrade to it ;)
[10:27] <Kris> how do I reinstall breezy? something is very obviously wrong with my install >.<
[10:27] <munzir> jenda_very_busy, ah! thanks a lot
[10:27] <merly> eruin,  we'll see. :v)
[10:27] <intelikey> but you might trun it on or set it to digits rather than bar graph
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> munzir np
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> My nautilus froze over
[10:28] <rosen> Goldfisch, as intelikey pointed out it could be disabled but default is on, so ... well most of the time I can see no meter either but the sec counter once in a while shifts to 0.1s here
[10:28] <eggman_> Kris, use a cd
[10:28] <alekz> anyone here knows how to disable window's shadow from xfc4 ?
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> When trying to copy a data CD
[10:28] <djm62> Kris: you can reinstall the same way you installed, but it really ought not to be necessary
[10:28] <Goldfisch> rosen: Tnx. I think I found that setting.
[10:28] <jenda_very_busy> Can any one tell me how to make nautilus stop worrying about the CD?
[10:29] <Linas5> umm
[10:29] <Kris> I don't have blank CDs so that's out
[10:29] <chtamina> . any suggestions ?
[10:29] <chtamina> I've tryed with videolan, mplayer, totem-xine and  totem-gstreamer
[10:29] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: im sure its not worrying about the CD :)
[10:29] <Linas5> im having a bit of a problem...
[10:29] <eggman_> Kris, shipit?
[10:29] <djm62> jenda_very_busy: xkill from a terminal?
[10:29] <ApX> how do I format my external in ubuntu
[10:29] <eggman_> or ask a friend?
[10:29] <Linas5> linas@linas:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:29] <Linas5> Reading package lists... Done
[10:29] <Linas5> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:29] <Linas5> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[10:29] <Linas5> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[10:29] <lightbright> Linas5: arent we all ;)
[10:29] <Linas5> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[10:29] <Linas5> or been moved out of Incoming.
[10:29] <ApX> very big newbie here
[10:29] <Linas5> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:29] <Linas5> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[10:29] <Linas5> that package should be filed.
[10:29] <Linas5> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[10:29] <Linas5> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:29] <Kris> djm62, I installed with apt-get is there a reinstall command?
[10:29] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: hello again, and yes it is :) the dirve is busy
[10:29] <Linas5>   vlc: Depends: liba52-0.7.4 but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libmodplug0c2 (>= 1:0.7-4.1) but it is not installable
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: libmpeg2-4 but it is not installable
[10:29] <ApX> or how do i even find it in the term so I can rm everything :)
[10:29] <Linas5>        Depends: wxvlc but it is not going to be installed
[10:29] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: type "eject"
[10:30] <Linas5> E: Broken packages
[10:30] <Linas5> looks like that =P
[10:30] <djm62> Kris: you upgraded from hoary?
[10:30] <lightbright> Linas5: what?  can we see that again?  we missed it
[10:30] <Goldfisch> rosen: There we go. Now I have the status bars and the text read out of those indicators. :)
[10:30] <djm62> Linas5: stop that! it's extremely rude
[10:30] <intelikey> !paste
[10:30] <ubotflu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:30] <Linas5> lol
[10:30] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: OK thanks - that didn't work, but now it does
[10:30] <Kris> djm62, yes
[10:30] <Linas5> ok
[10:30] <djm62> Kris: what isn't working?
[10:30] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: it worked or it didnt? :P
[10:30] <eggman_> Kris reinstall hoary
[10:30] <Kris> I think it messed up because I was in gnome when I did the install
[10:30] <lightbright> Linas5: can we see that again?  we missed it heheh ;)
[10:30] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: It did
[10:30] <rosen> Goldfisch, allright .. let me hammer your ip for a while and see if it works /cackle
[10:31] <Kris> and stuff was still running
[10:31] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy:  cool :)
[10:31] <rosen> Goldfisch, just joking .. wont do that ;)
[10:31] <Kris> the problem is I'm unable to get into X
[10:31] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: the eject command has helped me a lot :)
[10:31] <djm62> Kris: specifics..."I do X, Y should happen, instead Z happens"
[10:31] <Goldfisch> rosen: Heheh. I am at Pinera Bread right now. Wanted to try my wireless laptop configuration with ubuntu in a "real-world" setting.
[10:31] <selinium> what is the command line for audio transcoding?
[10:31] <ApX> how do I format my external in ubuntu
[10:31] <jenda_very_busy> lightbright: yes, me too. I asked because it refused to work at first.
[10:31] <rosen> Goldfisch, nice !.. bring me a cookie
[10:31] <greenpenguin13> mmm algebra :-p
[10:31] <Kris> djm62, I turn on my ubuntu box, I should boot into X, I don't
[10:32] <lightbright> jenda_very_busy: ok
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> error messages?
[10:32] <djm62> Kris: do you get anything on the screen at all? can you log into a console?
[10:32] <Linas5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5885
[10:32] <Linas5> can someone tell me what im doing wrong?
[10:32] <Kris> djm62, lt boots to a shell prompt
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> what graphics card u got?
[10:32] <intelikey> ApX mkfs.<type> /dev/<address>
[10:32] <js_> how can i do an ubuntu netinstall? without using pxe boot
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> login at the shell and try startx
[10:32] <djm62> Kris: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:32] <ApX> thx
[10:32] <greenpenguin13> is it an nvidia graphics card?
[10:33] <ApX> and then just rm *
[10:33] <ApX> to delete everything?
[10:33] <chtamina> back again, sorry
[10:33] <ApX> I want to format the sucker
[10:33] <chtamina> did anyone answered my question about hardware and divx ?
[10:33] <greenpenguin13> rm -rf /usr/bin.  i did that once... :-p
[10:34] <intelikey> ApX making a new file system will (at least should) delete everything.   umount it first tho.
[10:34] <selinium> greenpenguin13, ? Dont put commands like that in here! :)
[10:34] <nubuntu> People, is it possible to change that ugly logout picture in KDE? (the sleeping dragon thing)
[10:34] <greenpenguin13> lol :)
[10:35] <ApX> ok I'm really new to this
[10:35] <greenpenguin13> yes use gnome instead
[10:35] <Kris> ok done with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, now what?
[10:35] <ApX> this is my second day
[10:35] <greenpenguin13> try startx
[10:35] <djm62> ApX: use the scrub command or similar on the /dev/ file if you really want to shift the data
[10:35] <Kris> startx does not exist
[10:35] <nubuntu> seriously
[10:35] <djm62> Kris: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:35] <intelikey> nubuntu should be an app for that in kde
[10:35] <nubuntu> ok
[10:35] <greenpenguin13> Kris: is it an nvidia card?
[10:35] <djm62> Kris: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:36] <Kris> djm62, that returns me to a shell prompt
[10:36] <thegladiator> does nyone use anjuta to prog python ?
[10:36] <greenpenguin13> error messages
[10:36] <SAM_theman> hey guys i need your help
[10:36] <Kris> greenpenguin13, ati radeon 7000
[10:36] <SAM_theman> hey ihadthatcard
[10:36] <Matrixritter> n abend
[10:36] <greenpenguin13> Kris: less /etc/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[10:36] <SAM_theman> *i had that card
[10:36] <SAM_theman> 7000
[10:36] <SAM_theman> Ati
[10:36] <SAM_theman> never go 3d on thatthing
[10:37] <SAM_theman> never got 3d on the card
[10:37] <micke1234> I just upgraded to Dapper, and now my program menu is empty and my sound card is not working anymore?
[10:37] <Kris> greenpenguin13, no such file or directory
[10:37] <SAM_theman> just get a geforce
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> i have that
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> o
[10:37] <SAM_theman> no matter what u try you still will get like 100-200fps
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> sorry
[10:37] <cafuego> !test
[10:37] <ubotflu> Crashed.
[10:37] <SAM_theman> history -c
[10:37] <greenpenguin13> Kris: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[10:37] <Kris> SAM_theman, i don't use my linux box for 3d :p
[10:37] <SAM_theman> o ok
[10:38] <greenpenguin13> has the bot crashed agin?
[10:38] <SAM_theman> heyguyscheck this out ((nvidia-settings:10042): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_invalidate_rect: assertion `window != NULL' failed
[10:38] <SAM_theman> )
[10:38] <mrkoje> !beer
[10:38] <Linas5> ubuntu wont see ntfs right?
[10:38] <cafuego> No, the bot has not crashed again.
[10:38] <mrkoje> nope he seems fine
[10:38] <cafuego> The router in between the bot and irc.freenode.net however...
[10:38] <djm62> Linas5: ubuntu can see ntfs (writing to it is extremely discouraged)
[10:38] <Linas5> well
[10:39] <Linas5> could i pull some movies/music off of an ntfs partition?
[10:39] <Kris> greenpenguin13, not sure what you want me to say about that line from the log
[10:39] <djm62> Linas5: I think there's a page on the wiki addressing exactly that, if you search
[10:39] <SAM_theman> heres another problem i am having really not one but...
[10:39] <greenpenguin13> what does it say?
[10:39] <thegladiator> does nyone use anjuta to prog python ?
[10:39] <Linas5> thanks djm62
[10:39] <Kris> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implimented, (??) unknown
[10:39] <dazel> I don't know what I've done, but sudo doesn't work propetly and asks me for rood passwd. When I type it i get: "daze is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[10:39] <greenpenguin13> strange
[10:39] <Ophiocus> can i specify the ping commend to run on a specific ethN   ?
[10:39] <SAM_theman> i want the way my terminal looks like stay like that.What i mean i have my terminal in a wide-view angle and i want to keep it that way every time i open it
[10:40] <cafuego> Kris: That's normal.
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> Kris: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(WW)"
[10:40] <Goldfisch> dazel: Were you able to edit /etc/group?
[10:40] <khirya> gnomebaker - how come when I drag my 600mb home dir into the files area of a 700mb cd, it gets to 59% and says "file or directory is too large to fit in the remaining space on the CD" ?
[10:40] <cafuego> greenpenguin13: Warnings cna be ignored, he should be checking for (EE)
[10:40] <Kris> ooooh lots of stuff under warnings
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> nothing under (EE)
[10:40] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ?
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> Kris: what u get?
[10:40] <cafuego> Then X runs fine.
[10:40] <dazel> Goldfisch: there is: daze:x:1000
[10:40] <Juchipilo> i'm trying to installl mysql.    sudo aptitude install mysql   is not working how do i do it?
[10:40] <greenpenguin13> !paste
[10:40] <ubotflu> Not a clue, greenpenguin13
[10:40] <dazel> i dont know what should i edit
[10:40] <Kris> 'fonts.dir' not found
[10:41] <Kris> Open APM failed
[10:41] <greenpenguin13> !pastebin
[10:41] <ubotflu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:41] <Ng> Juchipilo: install mysql-server
[10:41] <Ng> Juchipilo: and probably mysql-client too
[10:41] <djm62> Kris: did you do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:41] <greenpenguin13> Kris: put the whole lot on there
[10:41] <Juchipilo> cool. thanks
[10:41] <Kris> djm62, yes
[10:41] <Ng> Juchipilo: if you can't find something like that, try "apt-cache search musql"
[10:41] <lightbright> !pastebin
[10:41] <Ng> or mysql even ;)
[10:41] <Juchipilo> ok
[10:41] <waseem> hi does anyone know a userfriendly program that will automatically connect to available wireless servers without having to type dozens of ocmmands in the terminal
[10:41] <bshumate> Ophiocus:  ping -I <iface>   (that's capital i)
[10:41] <Goldfisch> dazel: Okay...you need to find the group named admin. Then append your user id to the end, like this "admin:x:106:gregturn"
[10:41] <Ophiocus> cheers
[10:41] <Kris> i'm on my windows box at the moment it'll take forever to type it all up
[10:41] <CaptainMorgan> whoa... why is my default shell /bin/false ?
[10:42] <greenpenguin13> Kris: sudo apt-get update ; apt-get install
[10:42] <Linas5> damnit
[10:42] <Goldfisch> dazel: Then, the next time you open a shell, type "id". That will list all the groups you belong to.
[10:42] <Linas5> it wont let me install vlc
[10:42] <Ng> waseem: the Network tool in System->Administration should understand wireless networks
[10:42] <CaptainMorgan> nevermind.. oversight
[10:42] <djm62> waseem: System->Administration->Networking
[10:42] <dazel> Goldfisch: thx a lot, it works
[10:42] <Kris> my linux box isn't on the net at the moment
[10:42] <Goldfisch> waseem: network-manager is what you want.
[10:42] <Kris> gonna have to switch the modem over to it, brb
[10:42] <greenpenguin13> oh right
[10:43] <ApX> why can't I find my external?
[10:43] <djm62> :( inconvenient
[10:43] <ApX> where does it go :)
[10:43] <waseem> ok thanks guys
[10:43] <khirya> huh - if I put it on a 4g dvd it takes up 1.5 gig... where is the extra gig of sace coming from?
[10:43] <ApX> /dev/<name>
[10:43] <steele> Hello, can someone tell me how to change the login screen? I use gnome-art for this, but I can't find a way to change?!
[10:43] <munzir> jenda_very_busy, please do you know what's this section called "Installed (local or obsolete)" in the "Status" of synaptic
[10:43] <thegladiator> is there anyone who uses anjuta here ?
[10:43] <K^Holtz> well, the first time i tried installing ubuntu, i got an error saying Uncompressing linux CRC ERROR --system halted, but then i restarted the computer and everyting seemed to be going fine, i then got an error that says it cant read data from the cd-rom
[10:43] <_jason> steele, system -> admin -> login screen setup
[10:43] <jenda_very_busy> munzir: what do you meanL
[10:44] <jenda_very_busy> *?
[10:44] <Ng> munzir: those are packages that are not being used by anything else or were installed from outside the ubuntu repositories (e.g. w32codecs is usually there)
[10:44] <greenpenguin13> hah paste.ubuntu.com looks different :)
[10:44] <djm62> ApX: most likely /dev/sda(something or other)
[10:44] <Ng> munzir: if you upgraded from an older ubuntu it may also have some packages from that listed in there
[10:44] <ApX> I just want to format it :(
[10:44] <Goldfisch> K^Holtz: Do you have another machine to "test drive" that CD? I had trouble with my laptop reading the ubuntu live Cd, but the Cd worked fine on another machine. That meant the laptop CD-ROM was kaput.
[10:44] <steele> to _jason: there is no...
[10:44] <ApX> something or other?
[10:44] <intelikey> i forget is th n or the g silent in gnome ?
[10:44] <djm62> ApX: is it seen if you go to Places->Computer?
[10:44] <Goldfisch> After getting a new CD-ROM (and DVD burner!) everything works great.
[10:45] <_jason> steele, there is no what
[10:45] <K^Holtz> well i have multiple cds.. maybe ill just try a differnet one.. im kinda scared to abort the installation tho.. says it will b left in an unstable state
[10:45] <CarlFK> wifi-radar
[10:45] <Ng> intelikey: it's guh-nome as in gnu :)
[10:45] <ApX> djm62 yes
[10:45] <steele> to _jason: oh, I did a wrong translation... thanks
[10:45] <Ng> intelikey: the little dudes with fishing rods in gardens are called gnomes and the g is silent ;)
[10:45] <djm62> ApX: if you right-click on that do you have the option to format?
[10:45] <corresponder> ole
[10:45] <munzir> Ng, I have libdvdcss2 there and this is  a fresh install !
[10:45] <steele> _jason: I found it, thx, good night :-) bye
[10:45] <ApX> djm62 no
[10:45] <_jason> steele, np, cya
[10:46] <ApX> right click doesn't do anything
[10:46] <Ng> munzir: did you follow any of the RestrictedFormats wiki instructions for media codecs? If so that's probably why you have that
[10:46] <KrisWood> sudo apt-get update ; apt-get install returned a few errors
[10:46] <Ng> munzir: it's for reading video from encrypted DVDs
[10:46] <intelikey> ng so it is said G N O M E  ?   like   G N U  ?
[10:46] <_jason> ga-nome
[10:46] <Ng> intelikey: it's pronounce guh-nome as in guh-noo (gnu)
[10:46] <djm62> ApX: if you get the properties screen up, it should tell you what /dev/sd file to use for it
[10:46] <KrisWood> some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:46] <Goldfisch> Well, that is g-news to me!
[10:47] <djm62> ApX: you can't right-click on the icon? are you on a mac?
[10:47] <munzir> Ng, Umm! may be I don't remember now. so there is multiverse libdvdcss for ubuntu?
[10:47] <johnsie2k> !firefox
[10:47] <ubotflu> johnsie2k: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:47] <intelikey> Ng gnu is pronounced  gee in you
[10:47] <munzir> Ng, s/there is /there isn't
[10:47] <ApX> yes
[10:47] <corresponder> gnuh
[10:47] <ApX> on a mac
[10:47] <Ng> intelikey: no it's not :)
[10:47] <Kris> Could not open loc file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:47] <Kris> Unable to lock the list directory
[10:47] <Ng> munzir: no, it's a legally questionable package, so I don't think they distribute it at all
[10:47] <Kris> there, that's all of them
[10:47] <djm62> ApX: I have no idea how to right-click on a mac
[10:47] <johnsie2k> anyone have a date for firefox 1.5 yet?
[10:47] <greenpenguin13> did you remenber sudo?
[10:47] <Kris> yup
[10:47] <_jason> ctrl-click right clicks on a mac
[10:48] <Plugh> I pronounce gnu like the animal.
[10:48] <Kris> did I need to put sudo after the semicolon?
[10:48] <Ng> www.gnu.org lists canonical pronunciation if you don't believe me ;)
[10:48] <munzir> Ng, ah! thanks but saying obsolete for it is not meaningful at all
[10:48] <Ng> and this is waaay off topic ;)
[10:48] <ApX>  I do iwas f12
[10:48] <djm62> Kris: yes you did
[10:48] <Kris> ok
[10:48] <Ng> munzir: it says "obsolete or local" - that package is local, not obsolete
[10:48] <K^Holtz> i just got this CRC error again
[10:48] <Kris> brb yet again
[10:48] <K^Holtz> what does that mean?
[10:48] <Ng> munzir: it has no real way of telling the difference unfortunately
[10:48] <ApX> but I changed it, right click still does nothing in the filebrowser
[10:48] <Kris> the problem is; my linux box was my firewall / router
[10:48] <SAM_theman> brb
[10:48] <Goldfisch> Well, I learned that word from a kid's TV show years ago, with the character "Gary Ga-New". He was the news caster.
[10:48] <munzir> Ng, ah! thanks a lot for your quick nice tips
[10:49] <Goldfisch> And I just use "nome" like those travelocity ads. Heheh
[10:49] <Kris> single net connection has to be passed back and forth heh
[10:49] <Kris> oh well
[10:49] <Kris> brb
[10:49] <johnsie2k> anyone have a date for firefox 1.5 yet?
[10:49] <ApX> properties says nothing about  /dev/sd file to use for it
[10:49] <djm62> ApX: but you managed to right-click?
[10:49] <greenpenguin13> dapper has 1.5...
[10:49] <micke1234> Hi, my sound doesn't work in Dapper? I don't think the right modules are loaded... I have a NVidia CK804 AC-97 card
[10:49] <ApX> djm62 yes
[10:49] <Ng> johnsie2k: it won't be released for breezy except maybe in backports, so the official date for getting it into ubuntu will be the dapper release in Apri
[10:50] <Ng> l
[10:50] <johnsie2k> is adapper later than breezy?
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> dapper is the current devel release
[10:50] <johnsie2k> is it semi-stable?
[10:50] <munzir> Ng, is there any way to tell from where a package came from in synaptic? which repo I mean? multiverse or universe or ...?
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> im using it
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> but im not stable either, so...
[10:51] <Goldfisch> Time to pack it in. Pinera was fun while I was here. Later.
[10:51] <Ng> munzir: if you right click on a package and choose Properties the "Section" field in the "Common" tab should tell you
[10:51] <johnsie2k> I'd upgrade if i thought it would be reliable
[10:51] <johnsie2k> ol, and if aI knew how
[10:51] <greenpenguin13> ud need a second computer
[10:51] <Kris> ok that fixed some of the errors
[10:51] <greenpenguin13> sometimes x wont start or something like that
[10:51] <ApX> why when I try to cd into /dev/sda it says it's not there?
[10:51] <johnsie2k> why? cant you apt get it?
[10:52] <ApX> I'm staring at it!
[10:52] <Kris> some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:52] <djm62> ApX: ah-ha
[10:52] <Ng> johnsie2k: do not upgrade until release
[10:52] <djm62> ApX: it's a design thing
[10:52] <Ng> johnsie2k: if you really want ff1.5 (and it is probably worth doing), look at the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page, it'll talk you through a manual install
[10:52] <ApX> geez
[10:52] <djm62> ApX: use the mkfs command you were told earlier on /dev/sda
[10:52] <johnsie2k> what stage are they at with dapper?
[10:52] <greenpenguin13> Kris: put ur /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:52] <user_> hey can someone help me?
[10:53] <ApX> ok
[10:53] <merly> how do i change the permissions so that a user can browse ntfs windows permission? sudo chmod hda1 -r-r-r says no good, it's a read only partition
[10:53] <Kris> greenpenguin13, I can't
[10:53] <Kris> I have no way to copy paste
[10:53] <_jason> user_, just ask and we can try
[10:53] <johnsie2k> it'd rather wait until it's in the repositores
[10:53] <munzir> Ng, you are marvellous!
[10:53] <ApX> I'll be back
[10:53] <alaine> hi everyone
[10:53] <djm62> I bet
[10:53] <thegladiator> i cant get add apllications>programmming>stanis python editor(SPE) can anyone else get it ? the download just winds up!
[10:53] <user_> can u guys help me install ubuntu on my other laptop
[10:53] <K^Holtz> is there any way to make my computer boot from the cd burner? i went to boot order in bios and for some reason its not listed there
[10:53] <munzir> user_, what's your problem?
[10:54] <amz0> I'm seeing the following error in the syslog when I connect my usb 2 hub: localhost kernel: [4300562.221000]  usb 3-2: device not accepting address 22, error -71 Could someone help me out please?
[10:54] <od1n> merly: you need to edit /etc/fstab
[10:54] <seanj> hi
[10:54] <user_> when i get to the partison disks i get confused
[10:54] <thegladiator> i cant get add apllications>programmming>stanis python editor(SPE) can anyone else get it ? the download just winds up!
[10:54] <merly> odln thanks
[10:54] <xandron_root> K^Holtz: maybe its a SCSI burner
[10:54] <Ng> johnsie2k: that's fair enough. dapper seems to be progressing well, but I really really recommend waiting until at least the preview release before you upgrade - even if it's stable today it could explode on you tomorrow ;)
[10:54] <Linas5> damnit
[10:54] <munzir> K^Holtz, booting from a cd burner shouldn't be different than a cd reader
[10:54] <Linas5> these stupid unmet dependencies things are gay
[10:54] <thegladiator> diesel, are u there ?
[10:54] <djm62> !gay
[10:55] <Ng> Linas5: would you like to not be homophobic and ask a question about how you fix your problem? ;)
[10:55] <djm62> in every sense
[10:55] <user_> can u guys help me install ubuntu?!?!?!?!
[10:55] <Linas5> ok
[10:55] <Linas5> sorry Ng
[10:55] <greenpenguin13> sure
[10:55] <K^Holtz> munzir well its not listed in bios, i even detected hardware... for some reason i keep getting an eror wen i try to install from my normal cd drive
[10:55] <Linas5> wont happen again i swear
[10:55] <thegladiator> could you please check out if the add aplications>programming>stanis python editor(SPE) is working ?
[10:55] <ApX> ok wait
[10:55] <ApX> I doen't want ext2 on there
[10:55] <thegladiator> thanks
[10:55] <Linas5> anyone wanna tell me why vlc and mplayer both give me these weird things at the end that are un-installabe?
[10:55] <ApX> I'd like fat32
[10:55] <K^Holtz> seanj how did u boot from it?
[10:55] <ApX> so my brother can use the sucker
[10:56] <djm62> ApX: what do you want on there? vfat==fat32
[10:56] <alaine> hi kuyaedz
[10:56] <Kuyaedz> hi..
[10:56] <ApX> djm62 yes
[10:56] <thegladiator> Linas5, graphcis card problems ? new one ?
[10:56] <incipiens> hi all
[10:56] <greenpenguin13> evening
[10:56] <djm62> ApX: mkfs.vfat
[10:56] <thegladiator> thats as far as i can trace it
[10:56] <alaine> how ru kuya edz?
[10:56] <user_> brb
[10:56] <ApX> oh :)
[10:56] <thegladiator> i cant get add apllications>programmming>stanis python editor(SPE) can anyone else get it ? the download just winds up!
[10:56] <Kuyaedz> alaine: good :)
[10:56] <seanj> K^Holtz: my bios has a setting for boot devices, so i inclued the cd-rw drive as a bootable device, the *first* bootable device so it wouldn't try the HD which already has an OS on it
[10:56] <ApX> thx
[10:56] <alaine> ru filipino kuya edz?
[10:56] <Linas5> thegladiator, i'm using whatever is in my lappy?
[10:56] <Kris> ok there were three lines in my sources.list that were not breezy
[10:56] <Kris> trying now
[10:56] <Kris> brb
[10:56] <munzir> K^Holtz, could it be that yours is defected?
[10:57] <Kuyaedz> alaine: dili, pero bisdak man ko
[10:57] <seanj> K^Holtz: some BIOS aren't able to boot off CD.. and that part I haven't gotten past yet :/
[10:57] <thegladiator> Linas5, old lappy ?
[10:57] <Linas5> kinda
[10:57] <alaine> ano bidak?
[10:57] <Linas5> piii 650
[10:57] <alaine> ano bisdak kuya edz?
[10:57] <zerozero> hi every body out there
[10:57] <merly> od1n, i added "user" to the option for hda1 but it didn't help
[10:57] <Linas5> why?
[10:57] <seanj> hi there zerozero
[10:57] <djm62> quick Q for the channel: is there a more "ubuntu way" to format an external drive? this seems a bit close to the system to force people into
[10:57] <Kuyaedz> alaine: cebu.. visayan
[10:57] <alaine> ok
[10:57] <zerozero> i've just a little question (hi seanj!)
[10:57] <ApX> mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sda
[10:57] <seanj> :)
[10:58] <K^Holtz> ok.. so who can answer this one.. Uncompressing Linux...      crc error      --system halted        <--get that wen i try to install ubuntu
[10:58] <zerozero> :)
[10:58] <Kuyaedz> alaine: I only know a little tagalog..
[10:58] <od1n> merly: the line will be like...    defaults,ro,uid=merly,gid=merly
[10:58] <ApX> wtc
[10:58] <alaine> ok
[10:58] <alaine> wer u from kuya edz?
[10:58] <od1n> merly: the ro is for ntfs only
[10:58] <djm62> ApX: you need to use sudo.  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda
[10:58] <ApX> and sda1 says contains mounted drive
[10:58] <zerozero> i'm a long time linux addicted, but just a newby in the ubuntu world
[10:58] <ApX> ok
[10:58] <seanj> same here zerozero !
[10:58] <ApX> how do I know if it's sda or sda1?
[10:58] <djm62> ApX: oh, sda1 contains a mounted drive....
[10:58] <kspath> Linas5: most likely due to your government and those of other nations and     going overboard attempts to enforce copyrights and piracy protection     so anything related to decoding and some formats "owned" by some organizations are restricted in various ways for various reasons    it does not seem logical  when all you might want to do is watch a DVD or play some muzik that you paid for legally...
[10:58] <ApX> yes
[10:59] <djm62> ApX: from Places->Computer you should be able to unmount that, for starters
[10:59] <ApX> but in >system>admin>disk it said sda
[10:59] <zerozero> so that's not so good, seanj :-)
[10:59] <jhina> the file browser wont view the NTFS format how do i enable NTFS and FAT32 file formats on GNEOE
[10:59] <Linas5> dang
[10:59] <ApX> ok so unmount first
[10:59] <Linas5> i just want to watch some movies
[10:59] <user_> hey
[10:59] <seanj> lol... it's just growing pains, pay them no mind
[10:59] <user_> someone help me install ubuntu
[10:59] <seanj> hi user_
[10:59] <djm62> good to see so many newbies in here :)
[11:00] <seanj> what's the magic word?
[11:00] <seanj> :P
[11:00] <user_> plz
[11:00] <seanj> lol ty
[11:00] <kspath> Linas5: lok to forums and faqs and guides   they often tell ways of getting the semi-restricted silly stuffs
[11:00] <KrisWood> grrr
[11:00] <user_> ok i hold on
[11:00] <Linas5> kk
[11:00] <Linas5> thanks kspath
[11:00] <jahshua> can anyone tell me how to set ident in Kubuntu ?? i did sudo apt-cache search identd and it returned .. Postgresql 7.4 object relational SQL database version 7.4 and then same again but with version 8.0'
[11:00] <dooglus> Linas5: did you see this?
[11:00] <dooglus> !mp3
[11:00] <ubotflu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:00] <KrisWood> I commented out the three that didn't say what distro they were and the errors went away
[11:00] <KrisWood> then I noticed a bunch of warnings
[11:00] <aTypical> Hey, all.  Is there a general concensus on what the best book is for learning linux?
[11:00] <jhina> the file browser wont view the NTFS format how do i enable NTFS and FAT32 file formats on GNEOE
[11:00] <ubuntu> www.tldp.org
[11:01] <KrisWood> aTypical, google
[11:01] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ??
[11:01] <seanj> jahshua: sudo apt-get install pidentd
[11:01] <od1n> aTypical: i used RUTE... showing its age a bit now, but still v useful
[11:01] <zerozero> seanj: ok, but i told you: i'm accustomed to linux world, so i'm accustomed in making pretty good efforts in order to have things working... ;-)
[11:01] <djm62> aTypical: none at all, something called RUTE is quite good if you want to learn from the command line
[11:01] <thegladiator> aTypical, the general consensus is that there is no such general consensus ;d
[11:01] <Kris> the warnings i get all say no such file or directory on the repository servers
[11:01] <thegladiator> but seriously...
[11:01] <Seveas> the rute book is ok
[11:01] <merly> odln  , that didn't do it for me
[11:01] <Plugh> aTypical: learn it so you can administer it or learn it so you can use it?
[11:01] <Seveas> and free
[11:01] <ApX> djm62 I think I got it :)
[11:01] <djm62> Kris: can you put your sources.list on a pastebin somewhere?
[11:01] <intelikey> well i still have failed to find one single redeeming quality about ubuntu aside form the fact that it is gnu-linux there is nothing remarkable about it what so ever.    but thanks for your time guys.
[11:01] <ApX> you are the man
[11:01] <Kris> so I'm thinking I need to find the correct sources.list for breezy
[11:02] <seanj> zerozero: you might be disappointed then.. i'm running into the 'just works' scenaria with Ubuntu.. 'no hacking required' :P
[11:02] <od1n> merly: have you unmounted and remounted the windows partition?
[11:02] <Seveas> !tell Kris about sources
[11:02] <djm62> intelikey: it has no redeeming features ;)
[11:02] <djm62> ApX: is all good?
[11:02] <Kris> thanks :)
[11:02] <thegladiator> there are tons of good books for linux basics
[11:02] <intelikey> that's the conclusion i came to djm62
[11:02] <aTypical> Plugh, a little of both, I guess.  My company will be bringing in a couple of Red Hat servers, but I'm not sure I want to gear myself specifically towards RedHat.
[11:02] <ApX> djm62 I think so
[11:02] <zerozero> seanj: what program do you use to burn your iso under ubuntu? (i tried gcombust, but it's not so good)
[11:02] <djm62> ApX: cool, cool
[11:03] <dooglus> how can I set which keyboard layout is used outside of X?
[11:03] <aTypical> thegladiator, that's the problem.  How do you know which is good and which is a POS?
[11:03] <seanj> zerozero: i kind of go with the trend and use k3b
[11:03] <annibis> does anyone know the name of the filesharing program that comes with ubuntu?
[11:03] <Kris> aTypical, it depends on what you want to do with it
[11:03] <seanj> zerozero: even though it doesn't blend in so well with GNOME, it works well
[11:03] <dooglus> in the virtual consoles, I think it's set up as an american keyboard.  can I change it?
[11:03] <Kris> each distro is geared toward diferent ends
[11:03] <user_> can some one help me install partition disks
[11:03] <aTypical> Kris, yeah and that's kind of a problem.
[11:03] <user_> seanj
[11:03] <kspath> zerozero: did you try gnomebaker or K3b ?
[11:03] <dooglus> annibis: bittorrent?
[11:03] <ApX> djm62 how do I mount it again :)
[11:03] <wolki> user: sure, where's the problem?
[11:04] <aTypical> I guess I'm looking more towards the administration side.
[11:04] <zerozero> seanj: sure, it's nice... but i just didn't feel like downloading a tons of deb packages to install it this night... :-(
[11:04] <Kris> I recommend BSD for most admin stuff
[11:04] <djm62> ApX: once it's formatted? unplug and plug
[11:04] <dooglus> !keyboard
[11:04] <ubotflu> dooglus: What?
[11:04] <user_> can u hyelp me install partiton disks
[11:04] <annibis> dooglus, theres also one like limewire
[11:04] <Bachus9000> Has anyone here used Chillispot to setup a wireless hotspot?
[11:04] <dooglus> !layout
[11:04] <zerozero> seanj: where are you from?
[11:04] <ubotflu> Bugger all, i dunno, dooglus
[11:04] <ApX> ok
[11:04] <Kris> seems to run pretty solid
[11:04] <seanj> user_: if you're sharing the disk with windows, you'll need some free space... you need 1 root partition (/) and one swap partition.. i usually use the whole disk minus 1 megabyte.. then use that megabyte for swap
[11:04] <Kris> a lot of people swear by gentoo
[11:04] <seanj> zerozero: i'm in Victoria, BC Canada :)
[11:04] <user_> im not
[11:04] <Kris> ubuntu is more for end users
[11:04] <kspath> or swear at Gentoo
[11:04] <Plugh> "Kiss the Blue Screen of Death" by Marcel Gagne is a good introductory book for using Linux. If you are getting servers in you need something more that will give you more information relating to the setting up and configuration of system services.
[11:04] <Kris> redhat is somewhere in the middle
[11:04] <dooglus> seanj: there's no point using a 1 meg swap partition!
[11:05] <djm62> and most people in the world are end users
[11:05] <seanj> user_: oki, then you might be better off letting the partitioner make the choices for you!
[11:05] <wolki> user_: how much space do you have available?
[11:05] <waseem> hi im getting the following error when trying to upgrade synaptic packages: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4-0x1.23a3b0000005ap-1333.4.0-0ubuntu3.3_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf
[11:05] <waseem> any ideas how to fix the problem?
[11:05] <od1n> re gentoo: has everyone seen the 'gentoo is rice' page? really funny
[11:05] <zerozero> seanj: pretty a good distance from here... :-) i'm from tuscany, italy.
[11:05] <bshumate> djm62: most people in the world do not have computers... ;-)
[11:05] <ApX> djm62 not mounting too good :/
[11:05] <seanj> dooglus: no? maybe i'm a bit overly cautious.. someone once told me to use double system ram as a figure for it.. havent run out of vram yet :)
[11:05] <merly> odln agreed funny .
[11:05] <djm62> bshumate: good point :(
[11:05] <seanj> ahh italy :)
[11:05] <Kris> brb gonna try out this new sources.list
[11:06] <K^Holtz> ok, so my computer is failing to Load installer component from CD   .. can someone please tell me what i should do here? i cant boot from my burner for some reason, and i already tried two different install cds
[11:06] <dooglus> seanj: what's your system ram?  512k?
[11:06] <djm62> ApX: did you give it time to format?
[11:06] <seanj> dooglus: you got it
[11:06] <user_> how do i insatll partition disks?!?!
[11:06] <dooglus> seanj: 640k should be enough for anyone, I know.
[11:06] <ApX> djm62 yea it was done with the command in the term
[11:06] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ???
[11:06] <Chris_C> I have a basic apt/synaptic question ...
[11:06] <seanj> dooglus: next time i scrap my system, if ever, i'll try that
[11:06] <dooglus> seanj: I think maybe you're getting your k's, m's and g's mixed up?
[11:06] <merly> oldn i'm having trouble unmounting it, it says it's busy
[11:07] <seanj> lol
[11:07] <Chris_C> If I download a deb file and install it with dpkg, will synaptic know about it?
[11:07] <_jason> Chris_C, yes
[11:07] <od1n> merly: are you currently accessing it from any directory?
[11:07] <zerozero> kspath: i'll try gnomebaker immediately, thank you so much!!
[11:07] <djm62> ApX: and when you plug it in, what happens?
[11:07] <dooglus> seanj: 1 gig for swap is reasonable.  1 meg isn't...
[11:07] <seanj> hrm, after installing pidentd i get "grep: /etc/inetd.conf: No such file or directory
[11:07] <topyli> seanj: if you get 4 gigs of ram, i wounldn't suggest you make a 8G swap :)
[11:07] <Chris_C> _jason: thanks
[11:07] <od1n> merly: like maybe some console window you've forgotten about?
[11:07] <seanj> ahh 8 gig! i get your point now :P
[11:08] <ApX> djm62 not much
[11:08] <jhina> how do i enable NTFS and FAT32 file formats
[11:08] <ApX> djm62 light comes on and it works...
[11:08] <zerozero> seanj: have you ever been here?
[11:08] <dooglus> I would think that the more RAM you have, the less swap you'll need.
[11:08] <user_> i got it to work!
[11:08] <seanj> zerozero: yeppers i have, a few times now
[11:08] <ApX> djm62 doing some spinning
[11:08] <djm62> ApX: please, be as specific as possible?  if you go to Places->Computer?
[11:08] <Chris_C> I'm having no luck getting the "malyjarda" repository configured in synaptic so I'll have to go with downloading the deb files (note: newbie)
[11:09] <ApX> djm62 no it's not in there
[11:09] <zerozero> kismet: hi, are you from pisa?
[11:09] <ApX> :)
[11:09] <Kuyaedz> !help
[11:09] <djm62> ApX: you formatted /dev/sda1 right?
[11:09] <Kuyaedz> oops :)
[11:09] <ApX> djm62 sorry
[11:09] <zerozero> seanj: did you enjoy yourself? what places did you visit?
[11:10] <ApX> djm62 yes
[11:10] <djm62> ApX: can you try this from the command line: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt ?
[11:10] <Pygi> can somebody please tell me what a kenrel is? thank you ;)
[11:10] <paulproteus|lapt> Pygi: It's part of a corn seed.
[11:10] <paulproteus|lapt> See wikipedia:Corn
[11:11] <Kuyaedz> Pygi: the kernel is basically what runs the show--what talks to the processor, etc..
[11:11] <_jason> Pygi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel
[11:11] <djm62> Pygi: that is more than a two-liner in a chatroom.  wikipedia and kernel.org can help you
[11:11] <od1n> Pygi: a misspelling of 'kennel'?
[11:11] <dooglus> the kernel is the core of an operating system. It is a piece of software responsible for providing secure access to the machine's hardware and to various computer processes
[11:11] <topyli> Pygi: it's the core of an operating system. it handles the system calls, acting as a mediator between the hardware and userspace programs
[11:11] <topyli> very vaguely speaking
[11:11] <Pygi> hehe, how many answer ;)
[11:11] <K^Holtz> well, i know u are all busy, but hopefully someone will notice wut im sayin.. Its getting the same error even when i try to boot the live cd
[11:11] <ApX> djm62 it's trying I think
[11:11] <topyli> Pygi: it's a philosophical question really =)
[11:12] <zerozero> bye bye to you all, thanks for your help!
[11:12] <Pygi> I was just joking ;) LOL ;)
[11:12] <ApX> djm62 HD light is working on something
[11:12] <Pygi> Few days I tried to ask that question nobody replied ;)
[11:12] <djm62> ApX: it will tell you what's wrong if there's something wrong, but it could just be taking a while
[11:12] <ApX> djm62 ok
[11:12] <Pygi> od1n: oh, yes, kernel* ;)
[11:12] <ApX> djm62 well it's def taking a min
[11:12] <od1n> pygi: lol ;)
[11:12] <Pygi> ok, now, what is hm....motherboard? ;)
[11:13] <yohan> does anyone know how to bind an alias in openbox?
[11:13] <topyli> Pygi: now suddendly, everybody is an expert ;-)
[11:13] <Pygi> topyli: yea, it seems people learn really fast ;) hehe ;)
[11:13] <ApX> djm62 ok the light stopped and the command finished, but still no mount
[11:13] <yohan> i can bind commands such as firefox but when i try to bind an alias defined in .bashrc it dont work
[11:13] <djm62> ApX: what error did it give?
[11:13] <dooglus> does anyone know how to select which keyboard layout is used in the virtual terminals?
[11:14] <ApX> djm62 no error
[11:14] <djm62> ApX: no error means success
[11:14] <djm62> ApX: if you cd /mnt
[11:14] <djm62> that's your drive
[11:14] <ApX> djm62 :) well it's not showing up in places>
[11:14] <merly> od1n, i finally got it unmounted and remounted. but it still says i don'thave permission
[11:14] <topyli> Pygi: it's the board in your PC box to which you attach all the other stuff. it handles the traffic inside tha machine
[11:15] <_jason> ApX, mount it somewhere in /media for it to show up in places i think
[11:15] <merly> od1n, i can make it through this way... copy files as root into user directory then change permissions
[11:15] <_jason> ApX, or just bookmark it in nautilus now
[11:15] <Pygi> topli: ok, do I eat motherboard?
[11:15] <djm62> _jason: ah, I always wondered
[11:15] <od1n> merly: ok, put your fstab in pastebin and post the URL
[11:15] <johnsie2k> how do I remove a .deb file
[11:15] <topyli> Pygi: i wouldn't recommend that
[11:15] <dooglus> merly: mount it with "-o umask=0"
[11:15] <djm62> johnsie2k: rm filename.deb
[11:15] <johnsie2k> im mean intsall !`!!!
[11:15] <Pygi> topyli: why not? LOL XD
[11:15] <johnsie2k> lol
[11:15] <ApX> ok I am an extreme newbie here :)
[11:15] <topyli> Pygi: stick to kernels :)
[11:15] <ApX> mount it how again :)
[11:15] <Pygi> topyli: oh, so I eat kernel?
[11:16] <johnsie2k> how do I install a .deb file
[11:16] <dooglus> johnsie2k: "sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>"
[11:16] <djm62> man, I don't normally like to see people kicked, but please, pygi, stop it
[11:16] <johnsie2k> thanks
[11:16] <topyli> Pygi: of course. every good meal has some kernels in it. not necessarily operating system kernels but perhaps wheat or something =)
[11:16] <Pygi> djm62: k, sorry ;)
[11:16] <Pygi> just joking a little ;)
[11:16] <merly> dooglus - that did it. now , how do i make it mount that way automagically
[11:16] <greenpenguin13> is there a way to keep rhythmbox running when x isn't running?
[11:17] <Seveas> no
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> oh well :/
[11:17] <jrr> perhaps with a vnc screen
[11:17] <johnsie2k> Is gaim 2.0 worth getting instead of 1.5?
[11:17] <od1n> merly: this is the line i've got in my fstab:      /dev/hda1   /windows    ntfs  defaults,ro,uid=1000,gid=1000  0   0  and it works fine for me
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> its nice
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> if you can be bothered
[11:17] <theblue> Hi all, I have an NTFS filesystem (/dev/hda1), that I mounted to /media/hda1, under Breezy Server.  I use the -w flag, but it still says "Read-only Filesystem".  How can I make it writeable?
[11:17] <jrr> johnsie2k: try it =]
[11:17] <Pygi> johnsie: not just yet...
[11:17] <dooglus> merly: edit /etc/fstab
[11:17] <djm62> ApX: this long line: sudo umount /dev/sda1&& sudo mount -t vfat -o users,rw /dev/sda1 /media
[11:17] <Seveas> johnsie2k, yes, but it does not work properly yet
[11:17] <dashinho> Hello... I have a weird problem with Firefox on Kubuntu (not quite sure if this happens on gnome to)... when I try to open a site with flash it freezes, I can't do anything so I have to kill it. I installed the flash plugin for mozilla but that didn't work. It also randomly freezes on any site after like 10 or 20 minutes of working. Any idea of what may be happening here?
[11:17] <johnsie2k> =]
[11:17] <greenpenguin13> works fine for me
[11:17] <ApX> djm62 I love you
[11:17] <Pygi> theblue: use -rw
[11:17] <topyli> greenpenguin13: no. use a daemon like mpd so you can log out and in without interrupting the noise
[11:17] <lucasvo> theblue: you need the windrivers to write
[11:17] <dooglus> djm62: "user", not "users", right?
[11:17] <jrr> !ntfs
[11:17] <ubotflu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:18] <kemik> !cairo
[11:18] <ubotflu> kemik: I give up, what is it?
[11:18] <theblue> lucasvo: How do I get those?
[11:18] <jrr> ntfs, last i checked, is not stably writeable
[11:18] <kemik> !dapper
[11:18] <ubotflu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[11:18] <theblue> !ntfs
[11:18] <djm62> dooglus: offhand, I forget ApX user instead of users
[11:18] <lucasvo> theblue: see what ubotflu said
[11:18] <ApX> djm62 where do I learn this stuff?
[11:18] <bshumate> !beer
[11:18] <theblue> lucasvo: Thanks.
[11:18] <djm62> ApX: if the ubuntu people do their jobs, you won't have to ;)
[11:18] <ompaul> !shoot the duck
[11:19] <lucasvo> what's ubotflu's favourite beer?
[11:19] <ompaul> !apx
[11:19] <ubotflu> ompaul: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:19] <greenpenguin13> ubotflu Cairo is an Open Source library for vector graphics
[11:19] <topyli> lucasvo: i bet it's heineken
[11:19] <ubotflu> okay, greenpenguin13
[11:19] <ompaul> !airportX
[11:19] <ubotflu> ompaul: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:19] <lucasvo> !microsoft
[11:19] <ubotflu> lucasvo: Wish i knew
[11:19] <xandron_root> !ubuntu
[11:19] <ubotflu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[11:19] <greenpenguin13> !cairo
[11:19] <lucasvo> !bug 1
[11:19] <ubotflu> lucasvo: Are you on ritalin?
[11:19] <ubotflu> greenpenguin13: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:19] <xandron_root> !awards
[11:19] <theblue> !debian
[11:19] <Seveas> STOP PLAYING WITH THE BOT
[11:19] <ubotflu> I guess awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[11:19] <Pygi> don't abuse the bot, please
[11:19] <ubotflu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[11:19] <greenpenguin13> !Cairo
[11:19] <ubotflu> greenpenguin13: Not a clue
[11:20] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, especially you
[11:20] <greenpenguin13> yep
[11:20] <greenpenguin13> how come it doesnt remember information?
[11:20] <topyli> hmm. the bot has a nice view of debian. accurate too
[11:20] <lucasvo> Seveas: why? is he running on a winmachine ? and crashing ? :S
[11:20] <cius> anyone know why my volume applet on one of my panels would randomly disappear?
[11:20] <Seveas> lucasvo, it is annoying and spamming the channel
[11:20] <lucasvo> Seveas: anyway, who enters all these messages?
[11:20] <Seveas> lucasvo, anyone who wants
[11:21] <topyli> lucasvo: you and me
[11:21] <lucasvo> Seveas: how?
[11:21] <Seveas> ubotflu, tell lucasvo about yourself
[11:21] <lucasvo> Seveas: should I get something in query?
[11:21] <greenpenguin13> ubotflu, tell greepenguin13 about yourself
[11:21] <Seveas> lucasvo, yes
[11:21] <ApX> djm62 ok too late for that users thing :)
[11:21] <morph4tqwertqw> hey guys im having a shit load of problems
[11:21] <topyli> lucasvo: if your nick is registered
[11:21] <lucasvo> Seveas: but I don't
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> im in morphix right now cuz i cant boot ubuntu
[11:22] <lucasvo> topyli: it is
[11:22] <xandron_root> ubotflu, tell ubotflu about yourself
[11:22] <greenpenguin13> whatsup?
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: should be ok, I think
[11:22] <ApX> djm62 so where is it now? :)
[11:22] <Pygi> morph: shoot
[11:22] <yatesy> lol xandron_root
[11:22] <xandron_root> lol
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: I'm not sure why it isn't automounting...
[11:22] <Pygi> xandron: don't abuse bot
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> first i keep getting failed read/write errors during installation
[11:22] <lucasvo> ubotflu, tell lucasvo about yourself
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> then when it finally goes through
[11:22] <lucasvo> but I don't
[11:22] <Plugh> morph4tqwertqw: Have you tested the CD media?
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: /media (I hoped that moving it to there would make it pop up)
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> yeah
[11:22] <djm62> ApX: but try going to there
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> it goes through sometimes
[11:22] <topyli> !lart xandron_root
[11:22] <lucasvo> Seveas: I dunno what's yourself
[11:22] <morph4tqwertqw> ive reinstalled about 15 times today
[11:22] <ApX> djm62 ok
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> when it boots up to install the modules, it freezes
[11:23] <od1n> morph: any chance it could be the hard drive?
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> maybe
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> that was the original problem
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> im switching from xp
[11:23] <djm62> ApX: (I think this might be one of breezy's problem areas...I've had similar problems)
[11:23] <od1n> have you tested it?
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> xp corrupted everything
[11:23] <yatesy> sounds about right
[11:23] <ApX> djm62 hmm, not there
[11:23] <morph4tqwertqw> how would i go about fixing the drive?
[11:23] <alekz> how can i disable shadows on xfce4 ????
[11:24] <od1n> what make is it?
[11:24] <Seveas> !ubotu
[11:24] <ubotflu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:24] <Seveas> lucasvo, ^--
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> maxtor?
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> i think
[11:24] <ApX> djm62 well it mounts about half the time
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> yeah
[11:24] <lucasvo> Seveas: would it be possible to let ubotflu join #edubuntu?
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> ive installed ubuntu many times and never had this issue
[11:24] <Plugh> morph4tqwertqw: You should run a bad block check on the hard drive.
[11:24] <od1n> morph: you can go to the maxtor homepage and download their frive-testing tool
[11:24] <Seveas> lucasvo, ask cafuego (note that ubotflu is a temp. replacement since ubotu's datacenter is crappy atm)
[11:24] <morph4tqwertqw> how would i go about checking it?
[11:25] <djm62> ApX: I'm not sitting at your computer, which makes it that bit more difficult...like playing pool with a bit of string
[11:25] <od1n> morph: you'll download a floppy image, write it to a floppy using dd, then rebbot
[11:25] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: firefox sucks less than many other browsers, but it still sucks quite a bit
[11:25] <lucasvo> cafuego: could you add ubotflu/ubotu to #edubuntu?
[11:25] <Kuyaedz> is it a simple: apt-get install kde to add that as a gdm option?
[11:25] <cdmbhs> question: im using the live CD to boot into a comp with a messed up windows xp, however during the ubuntu boot process (right after i hit enter), the system restarts... anyone know a way around this?
[11:25] <od1n> morph: hang on, i'll find a link
[11:25] <djm62> Kuyaedz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I think
[11:25] <morph4tqwertqw> thanks
[11:25] <ApX> djm62 ok well I appriciate the help
[11:26] <Kartagis> hi
[11:26] <Kartagis> I have a problem
[11:26] <topyli> lucasvo: i don't think he's around right now
[11:26] <lucasvo> topyli: hm'k
[11:26] <Plugh> man badblocks
[11:26] <CaptainMorgan> Kartagis, I have an answer...
[11:26] <od1n> morph: www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/powermax.htm
[11:26] <topyli> lucasvo: i'm sure it won't be a problem. it would be good to get good old ubotu back before that though
[11:27] <lucasvo> topyli: what's wrong with him?
[11:27] <topyli> lucasvo: i have no idea :)
[11:27] <morph4tqwertqw> would i run this in xp?
[11:27] <od1n> morph: looks like exe only tho... bit annoying. got a windows machine handy?
[11:27] <od1n> morph: yes, and it will create a bootable floppy
[11:27] <johnsie2k> arggg.. I'm bored... someone tell me a fun program to intall
[11:28] <johnsie2k> =]
[11:28] <morph4tqwertqw> yeah, i had to install XP on the other harddrive to rescue files
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> gtkorphan
[11:28] <Knorrie> johnsie2k: sl
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> bzflag
[11:28] <djm62> johnsie2k: liquidwars
[11:28] <Seveas> johnsie2k, xmoto
[11:28] <morph4tqwertqw> floppy, crap!
[11:28] <Knorrie> johnsie2k: bastet
[11:28] <xandron_root> johnsie2k: fortune
[11:28] <djm62> johnsie2k: earth3d
[11:28] <_jason> lol
[11:28] <johnsie2k> lol not all at once
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> windows
[11:28] <Seveas> johnsie2k, cowsay
[11:28] <djm62> johnsie2k: if you feel creative, inkscape
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> blender
[11:28] <greenpenguin13> nmap :-p
[11:28] <ompaul> morph4tqwertqw, you did not - you could have used a Linux live CD and moved them to a burner or over a network to another machine
[11:29] <yatesy> cowsay an figlet rock =)
[11:29] <morph4tqwertqw> ummmm, i dont have a floppy drive.....
[11:29] <od1n> morph: http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Maxtor/menuitem.3c67e325e0a6b1f6294198b091346068/?channelpath=/en_us/Support/Software%20Downloads/ATA%20Hard%20Drives&downloadID=113
[11:29] <morph4tqwertqw> ok
[11:29] <USCRyan> *question* how do i unzip a tar.bz2 file?
[11:29] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen
[11:29] <greenpenguin13> file roller
[11:29] <djm62> USCRyan: tar -xjvf also works
[11:29] <USCRyan> djm62, thx
[11:30] <topyli> USCRyan: click on it. if you are on console, use "tar xjvf foo.tar.bz2"
[11:30] <topyli> damn i'm slow
[11:30] <jhenn> is dapper safe to upgrade to?
[11:30] <greenpenguin13> depends
[11:30] <topyli> no it's not
[11:30] <greenpenguin13> im running it ok
[11:30] <jhenn> how do i uninstall the old version of cairo themes i installed myself by make install and install the newer ones?
[11:31] <god> I need to install nvidia drivers so I can run opengl.
[11:31] <cdmbhs> question: when i boot using ubuntu live, my computer suddenly restarts during the loading phase, anyone know how i can resolve this problem (fairly new compaq pc)
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> make uninstall
[11:31] <johnsie2k> is dapper gonna be faster than breezy?
[11:31] <god> I have a geforce 4 ...maybe it's a rage
[11:31] <topyli> greenpenguin13: ok, it might be unbroken today and even an upgrade might be ok. you never know tomorrow though :)
[11:31] <djm62> jhenn: it's not safe...it's just not guaranteed to kill your hard drive
[11:31] <johnsie2k> for loading programs
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:31] <Seveas> johnsie2k, yes
[11:31] <johnsie2k> good
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:31] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> woo
[11:31] <topyli> johnsie2k: that depends a lot on gnome development
[11:31] <greenpenguin13> its ok if you have a second os
[11:32] <KmK82> ciao a tutti
[11:32] <greenpenguin13> ive been running it since it came out and its gone down about once a week
[11:32] <morph4tqwertqw> ok thanks guys im gonna try this out and then come back if i have any other problems
[11:32] <morph4tqwertqw> thanks
[11:32] <od1n> k man
[11:32] <Zscach> can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:32] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:33] <topyli> greenpenguin13: not bad if that's not your production machine. they do say it's going to be easier than breezy
[11:33] <topyli> i mean the transition
[11:33] <greenpenguin13> i do have a space os though :)
[11:33] <greenpenguin13> s/space/spare/
[11:34] <god> greenpenguin13:  Is there a way to do it without the CD? I'm not at my house right now and I don't have the CD.
[11:34] <god> greenpenguin13:  I'm actually 12 hours away from my house but I brought my computer and changed the card.
[11:34] <greenpenguin13> is the comptuter on the net?
[11:34] <god> greenpenguin13:  I'm on it.
[11:34] <greenpenguin13> god; what repos u got?
[11:35] <god> greenpenguin13:  Uhmm I have most of them I think. If I'm thinking of the right thing
[11:35] <god> greenpenguin13:  What do I need?
[11:35] <greenpenguin13> god: open firefox, do ubuntu package search for nvidia-glx
[11:36] <greenpenguin13> god: then download the version for ur distro/arch
[11:36] <greenpenguin13> god: and stick it it /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:36] <face2face> Hello guys!
[11:36] <greenpenguin13> god: and then try
[11:37] <face2face> How are you guys doing?
[11:37] <greenpenguin13> im talking to god :-p
[11:37] <od1n> pretty good, how are you?
[11:37] <face2face> ANyway, could any of you help me with something?
[11:37] <face2face> Yeah, I'm "god" ;)
[11:37] <Seveas> !tell face2face about anyone
[11:37] <topyli> is there a way to stop the gnome window list from flashing when something new happens in a window?
[11:38] <Seveas> topyli, click on ir
[11:38] <Seveas> it*
[11:38] <dashinho> Hello... I have a weird problem with Firefox on Kubuntu (not quite sure if this happens on gnome to)... when I try to open a site with flash it freezes, I can't do anything so I have to kill it. I installed the flash plugin for mozilla but that didn't work. It also randomly freezes on any site after like 10 or 20 minutes of working. Any idea of what may be happening here?
[11:39] <topyli> Seveas: sub-optimal when you are clicking on links in liferea or some such, and new tabs are appearing on a minimized firefox window
[11:39] <face2face> Hey, I'm havin problems conecting to MSN protocol with Gaim 2.0 CSV
[11:39] <Kris> hello again
[11:39] <topyli> Seveas: i know a new tab is there, no need to notify me
[11:39] <Kartagis> hi. I have a problem. I opened up Synaptic the other day and marked all upgrades and clicked on Apply. when it all finished, it told me to restart because a kernel upgrade was also performed. I restarted and BAM! Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on an unknown block(0,0). what to do?
[11:39] <Kris> I've edited my sources.list to look exactly like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2325
[11:40] <Kris> redid my dist-upgrade
[11:40] <Kris> and update
[11:40] <Kris> still not able to get into gnome
[11:40] <face2face> I can conencto to other protocol, but not to MSN, any ideas?
[11:40] <sorush20> guys is there a multithread webserver so that I can run more than one download / upload on the same server using ftp?
[11:40] <face2face> It says: "Unable to authenticate: .net Messenger Service
[11:41] <face2face> :(
[11:41] <Kris> how do I fix a borked install of breezy without a CD? >.<
[11:41] <Seveas> sorush20, you are making no sense at all
[11:42] <face2face> ANd am I making any sense ? :P
[11:42] <Kris> I guess I could always go back to hoary :(
[11:42] <od1n> face2face: i get those kinds of errors
[11:42] <djm62> Kris: if you have net access on it, and you've fixed the sources.list file now
[11:42] <sorush20> I'm using gftp I select a number of directories from one folder to upload and some from anther then don;t get uploaded at the same time I have to wait for on job to finish before I can start the other is there an alternative?
[11:42] <od1n> it just seems to happen on msn from time to time
[11:43] <od1n> face2face: even when using messenger on windows
[11:43] <face2face> But, the thing is that, it only happens when I'm using a second user account.
[11:43] <Seveas> sorush20, look at the preferences of gftp :)
[11:43] <djm62> Kris: you might want to apt-get remove the X stuff, then reinstall it
[11:43] <M_Cheevy> heya folks...
[11:43] <slashx1896> hey... can i get active X plug in for... my computer to play some game .. i used wine to isntall and it installed rite.. now it says i need active X
[11:43] <face2face> I mean, in the first account which as sudo ability can connect to MSN always...
[11:43] <djm62> Kris: rather than reinstalling the whole lot
[11:43] <Kris> djm62, how do I remove the X stuff, I mean how do I know which ones are X related?
[11:44] <god> greenpenguin13:  It's not working
[11:44] <od1n> face2face: the mysteries of microsoft... ;-)
[11:44] <face2face> ha ha ha,... yeah... the misteries of M$
[11:44] <djm62> Kris: apt-get remove xserver-xorg and similar stuff
[11:44] <god> greenpenguin13:  I mean, I can't find it
[11:44] <face2face> But.. that's weird!
[11:44] <slashx1896> can.. i?
[11:44] <Kris> is there a full list somewhere?
[11:44] <slashx1896> get active
[11:44] <Kartagis> Kris apt-get depends xserver-xorg I suppose
[11:44] <slashx1896> x
[11:44] <M_Cheevy> Kris: a good start is to go into Synaptic in the section view and deselect the whole KDE, Gnome and X trees..
[11:44] <Kartagis> hi. I have a problem. I opened up Synaptic the other day and marked all upgrades and clicked on Apply. when it all finished, it told me to restart because a kernel upgrade was also performed. I restarted and BAM! Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on an unknown block(0,0). what to do?
[11:44] <od1n> face2face: no other symptoms tho? rest of the network working fine?
[11:45] <Kris> can I go into synaptic from a shell prompt?
[11:45] <face2face> Yeah, the network works fine, odin :)
[11:45] <M_Cheevy> Kris: there are some meta-packages like "kde" "gnome" and "xserver-xorg" and "xserver-utils"
[11:45] <djm62> Kris: you still have no X?
[11:45] <M_Cheevy> Kris: use aptitude instead
[11:45] <face2face> I don't have a firewall.
[11:45] <Kris> yeah, no X
[11:45] <slashx1896> helllo?
[11:45] <M_Cheevy> heya slash, what gives?
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> in firefox's about:config how do you delete an event
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[11:45] <god> someone want to help me with nvidia-glx
[11:45] <god> ?
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> accidentally made one
[11:45] <Kartagis> hello?
[11:46] <corresponder> hi
[11:46] <M_Cheevy> god: there are some very good online documents on getting nvidia setup.. start with the wiki
[11:46] <Papoose> What kernel do i install - linux-386, image-386, image-2.6.12-9-386
[11:46] <slashx1896> is it perl?
[11:46] <Kartagis> hi. I have a problem. I opened up Synaptic the other day and marked all upgrades and clicked on Apply. when it all finished, it told me to restart because a kernel upgrade was also performed. I restarted and BAM! Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on an unknown block(0,0). what to do?
[11:46] <USCRyan> what is a good program i can get from synaptics for filesharing?
[11:46] <face2face> Ah! One difference with my e-mail and the guys who is in the 2nd account is that mine Ends with MSN.com
[11:46] <face2face> and the other ends with @hotmail.com
[11:46] <corresponder> Kartagis: give him a correct root
[11:46] <face2face> though I don't think it actually makes a difference.
[11:46] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:46] <Kartagis> corresponder how?
[11:46] <CaptainMorgan> USCRyan, gftp ?
[11:46] <lucasvo> Seveas: somebody should make a tip for ubotu about firefox upgrade :D
[11:46] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: check your grub/menu.lst or lilo.config
[11:47] <od1n> face2face: no ideas i'm afraid :(
[11:47] <USCRyan> captainmorgan, im new to linux i just wanta program i can download music and videos with =)
[11:47] <face2face> oomm :(
[11:47] <corresponder> with knoppix btw
[11:47] <face2face> Thank you anyway Odin. You tried to help me :)
[11:47] <od1n> no probs
[11:47] <Papoose> What kernel do i install - linux-386, image-386, image-2.6.12-9-386
[11:47] <GTroy> USCRyan: you could use amule
[11:47] <Kris> I don't want to randomly remove packages, I've got no X, so have no gui synaptic thingy and I just want to get X working again >.<
[11:47] <M_Cheevy> USCRyan: windows?
[11:47] <Kartagis> M_Cheevy but this happened only after a kernel upgrade was performed
[11:48] <USCRyan> lol i dont wanna go back to windows
[11:48] <face2face> bye everybody
[11:48] <topyli> USCRyan: i've been using gtk-gnutella and have gotten lots of pr0n and music
[11:48] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: yes, and it might have scootched up the lilo/grub configurations... also check it got the modules for the kernel version
[11:48] <topyli> how do you cances irc messages= :)
[11:48] <topyli> cancel even
[11:48] <USCRyan> topyli, only the old version is on Synaptics, and i cant figure out how to install it from the website
[11:48] <Kartagis> Kris you can find out what's related to X by apt-get depends xserver-xorg
[11:49] <topyli> hm
[11:49] <t4> Papoose: what about 2.6.12-10-686 ?
[11:49] <M_Cheevy> topyli: backspace (assuming you meant cancel for cances)
[11:49] <TTT_Travis> if someone can help me write this please send me a PM:   http://pastebin.com/469468
[11:49] <HapyHippy> lo all, quick question - is there any reason why, when I try to change an icon on my panel I can only choose files from /usr/share/pixmaps - not even subdirectories?
[11:49] <solomon> I seem to have an odd issue that I hope some one knows the way around. I am a first time user of Ubuntu and was never asked to srt a root PW. I did find in the help files how to set the root PW, but none of the apps will accept the password. I can su just fine and it accepts the PW, but not of the administration apps will.... Help...
[11:49] <Papoose> t4 not an option
[11:49] <dooglus> HapyHippy: you can change the directory if you like
[11:49] <Kris> ok Kartagis I'll try that thanks
[11:49] <HapyHippy> I tried dooglus
[11:49] <HapyHippy> but all files are greyed out
[11:49] <Kris> brb gonna  switch the net back to my linux bo
[11:49] <Kris> >.<
[11:49] <od1n> solomon: do sudo su
[11:50] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:50] <M_Cheevy> TTT_Travis: there's a good beginners guide to writing shell scripts on the linux documentation project www.tldp.org
[11:50] <Papoose> t4 what is the diffence between the available kernels?
[11:50] <dooglus> HapyHippy: if you're using "browse", then you're browsing for a FOLDER.  select the folder, then you'll see the icons when you stop 'browse'ing
[11:50] <dooglus> HapyHippy: I know it sucks, but that's how it works...
[11:50] <HapyHippy> ./slaps himself silly
[11:50] <TTT_Travis> M_Cheevy I'll have a look at that
[11:50] <HapyHippy> nope, that makes perfect sense
[11:50] <topyli> USCRyan: i have 0.95.4 and the latest seems to be 0.96. not so old
[11:50] <dooglus> HapyHippy: all in the name of GNOME's usability, I presume...  :)
[11:50] <TTT_Travis> M_Cheevy does what I have posted look like something that would be easy todo?
[11:51] <M_Cheevy> TTT: other good stuff there as well.. check the Guides area
[11:51] <HapyHippy> dooglus: Many thanks, yet again :-)
[11:51] <M_Cheevy> TTT: theoretically, yes
[11:51] <solomon> sudo su will not accept the PW I set for root, though just using su, it accepts the PW...
[11:51] <USCRyan> topyli, i couldnt get it to connect for some reason, did u manualy list servers?
[11:51] <god> Still not working. This is a bunch of bull shit
[11:51] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:51] <Knorrie> Papoose: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-386
[11:51] <Papoose> thank you
[11:51] <od1n> solomon: so can you do administrative tasks?
[11:51] <topyli> USCRyan: no, it Just Works(TM). i just opened the port on my firewall
[11:51] <lucasvo> ubotu newfirefox is please see the wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion These instructions lead you through installing Firefox 1.5 final, but should also work for 1.0.7 or any other version.
[11:51] <lucasvo> !newfirefox
[11:51] <M_Cheevy> solomon: you made the same mistake I did, clear the PW for root using "sudo passwd -d root"  leave it blank... that's what the system assumes it is
[11:51] <ubotflu> lucasvo: What?
[11:52] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, gtk-gnutella loosk cool.... how do you enter a site... ?
[11:52] <lucasvo> ubotflu newfirefox is please see the wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion These instructions lead you through installing Firefox 1.5 final, but should also work for 1.0.7 or any other version.
[11:52] <ubotflu> lucasvo: okay
[11:52] <lucasvo> !newfirefox
[11:52] <M_Cheevy> solomon: also make sure you are a member of the group adm
[11:52] <solomon> Only from shell, none of the apps will accept. Synaptic runs find from shell, but if I use the shortcut in the admin list it says wrong PW
[11:52] <lucasvo> !newfirefox
[11:52] <ubotflu> lucasvo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:52] <Kartagis> M_Cheevy right now I have 2.6.9 Default (and recovery mode), 2.6.12-10-386 (and recovery mode), 2.6.10-5-386 (and recovery mode), 2.6.9 (and recovery mode) now in my grub
[11:52] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: i don't i just enter a search for something and start downloading what people want me to get
[11:52] <dooglus> solomon: sudo wants YOUR password, not ROOT's
[11:52] <M_Cheevy> solomon: yes, I know, that's the behaviour your get if you set a root PW... clear it out.
[11:53] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: ah! all recovery modes....
[11:53] <topyli> ooh! gaim beta released
[11:53] <CaptainMorgan> topyli,  ?
[11:53] <M_Cheevy> Kartagis: whoops, my bad.. mis read
[11:53] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, what's that supposed to mean?
[11:53] <solomon> Wait, you're sugesting leaving root with a null PW?
[11:53] <dooglus> solomon: not null, locked.  "sudo passwd -l"
[11:54] <M_Cheevy> Karagis: check the /lib/modules directory and check that it has modules directories for those kernel versions
[11:54] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: i just launch gtk-gnutella and enter something to the "search" box. than i get matches. and start clicking on files that look interesting
[11:54] <solomon> If it's locked, then how dill I, and I alone, access root?
[11:54] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: thought it was null?
[11:54] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, right.. ok, I enter a few things to search... Im getting no hits from any..
[11:54] <M_Cheevy> solomon: you don't.. that's the idea of the first account you setup after root....
[11:54] <dooglus> solomon: "locked" is the default state for the ubuntu root password.  you'll access root using "sudo".  if you want exclusive access, make sure you're the sole member of the 'admin' group.  only 'admin' group members can get root access using sudo (by default)
[11:55] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: if it was null then anyone could become root by running "su".  it wouldn't prompt for a password even.
[11:55] <CaptainMorgan> topyli, I guess Im asking 'where' is it searching?
[11:55] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: thought the group name was adm, not admin
[11:55] <CaptainMorgan> doesn't it need a site ?
[11:55] <CaptainMorgan> address..
[11:55] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: did you?
[11:55] <solomon> Ok, I am confused. But I will try it and see if understanding comes...
[11:55] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: perhaps it hasn't connected to a lot of peers yet
[11:55] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: ah... cool...
[11:55] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: isn't it great learning stuff :)
[11:55] <Zscach> COME ON DAMIT
[11:56] <Zscach> Hey:) i have a problem with my ubuntu 5.04, i have a trident microsystems cyber 9525 vid card...i have squiggly lines across bottom of screen            can some one please inspect my Xorg.conf for my problem??    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5868
[11:56] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: to prove it to yourself, run "sudo visudo" and look towards the end.  you'll see "admin" in there.
[11:56] <topyli> CaptainMorgan: no, you don't have to worry about that, it uses the gnutella network and sniffes around to find peers
[11:56] <CaptainMorgan> ah...
[11:56] <CaptainMorgan> seems simple then..
[11:56] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: I had nulled the root pw, but not anymore ;)
[11:56] <dooglus> M_Cheevy: heh.  it's not very same having a null root password :)
[11:56] <M_Cheevy> dooglus: that's why I play with linux, to learn.. it's not something that stays static... constantly changing