[12:00] <jrattner1> Where can i find new icons for gnome?
[12:00] <SigmaX> don: you can copy it and give it away to anybody you like.  Welcome to the world of FREE software :-)
[12:00] <queuetue> don: yes, you can give the CD to anyone legally - please do! :)
[12:00] <Seveas> Elsan, how much memory do you have?
[12:00] <Seveas> and how much swap?
[12:00] <N6REJ> Seveas: is there a document yet on the ubuntu-server distro that explains whats been done during install and what remains to be done?
[12:00] <Welly> Seveas: could it be anything to do with how my sources.list is set up?
[12:00] <ubuntu_newbie> what do I write to configure my network card ?
[12:00] <Seveas> N6REJ, ubuntu-base is installed, everything else should be done later
[12:00] <strike3_> crimsun: you still there ?
[12:00] <Seveas> Welly, probably, can you paste it on the pastebin
[12:00] <N6REJ> Seveas: thats with the new server distro?
[12:00] <Welly> yep.. hang about
[12:01] <Elsan> Seveas: 512 Mb, I'm gonna need to upgrade soon for a new game; it worked well on my other computer iwht less memory a year ago with Fedore
[12:01] <Jowi> btw, when upgrading hoary->breezy does apt log anything of what it is doing?
[12:01] <bathini> hello
[12:01] <Nick_Hill> Elsan, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <CungYen_Bakpao> hello
[12:01] <bathini> I am looking for a bittorrent client
[12:01] <bathini> software
[12:01] <don> thanks, what i am wondering: is there any universe/multiverse - software on the cd that prevents me from distributing it?
[12:01] <Seveas> Elsan, you need at least 512mb swap
[12:01] <trans_err> anyone know where I can get lirc module binaries? I can't get lirc to compile--- it bails everytime (yes I do have source/headers)
[12:01] <CungYen_Bakpao> can anyone help me
[12:01] <Seveas> N6REJ, it's not new
[12:01] <trans_err> CungYen_Bakpao: just ask
[12:01] <Seveas> it's just ubuntu
[12:01] <Welly> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/341
[12:01] <Seveas> the cd just has some different packages on it
[12:02] <Elsan> Seveas: Damn, I thought it was gonna be okay with 380 mb like the install said
[12:02] <CungYen_Bakpao> how can I upgrade to Gnome 2.12 in hoary?
[12:02] <Seveas> Wellark, 341 is too low to be current....
[12:02] <Nick_Hill> don, Ubuntu seem conservative about distribution.
[12:02] <N6REJ> Seveas: ok, I was under the impression from the press release that the configuration/install files had been modified.  Thanks.
[12:02] <antisocialboris> is there openSSH on hoary or do i need to d/l it?
[12:02] <Elsan> Seveas: Can I add swap with the normal install?
[12:02] <Welly> Seveas: 341?
[12:02] <fanelia> hi, wich is the postgres depency for ubutnu?
[12:02] <Seveas> Elsan, yes
[12:02] <SigmaX> dhjohnson3: Dunno what to tell ya.  Next time it  happens try logging in remotely and seeing what you can figure out.  Then, I guess, the gurus will tell you to "check your logs"
[12:02] <Welly> oh!
[12:02] <don> NIck_Hill, how do you mean?
[12:02] <Welly> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3416
[12:02] <Seveas> *looking8
[12:02] <Jowi> antisocialboris: sudo apt-get install ssh :)
[12:03] <Elsan> Seveas: If I upgrade my memory later, I figure it would need more swap?
[12:03] <Nick_Hill> don, Ubuntu err on the side of caution
[12:03] <Seveas> sources.list looks fine, how are you installing it?
[12:03] <chaps0063> what do i need to install to be able to ssh to my machine?
[12:03] <Seveas> Elsan, no, the more memory, the less swap :)
[12:03] <sizzam> what can i type in a gnome-terminal window to lock my screen?   i tried 'lock' but thats not it
[12:03] <Seveas> chaps0063, openssh-server
[12:03] <chaps0063> its just openssh-server, correct.
[12:03] <N6REJ> Seveas: Is there a place you can dl the cd cover?
[12:03] <Welly> apt-get install libapache-mod-php4
[12:03] <chaps0063> Seveas, thanks..
[12:03] <Seveas> sizzam, xscreensaveer-command --lock
[12:03] <Nick_Hill> don, For example, mp3's  may cause patent problems so MP3's are not supported in ubuntu CDs.
[12:04] <Seveas> N6REJ, wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[12:04] <sizzam> Seveas, thanks again
[12:04] <Nick_Hill> don, At least, in America and Japan
[12:04] <N6REJ> Seveas: ty.
[12:04] <Jowi> chaps0063: if you install package "ssh" you get the server and the client.
[12:04] <ubuntu_newbie> what do I write to configure my network card ?
[12:04] <Elsan> Seveas: Seveas: So right now, I neeed 512? I won'T need to change if I upgrade my RAM to 1Gb?
[12:04] <don> (happy to live in europe)
[12:04] <chaps0063> Jowi, ok, cool.
[12:04] <Nick_Hill> don, Thankfully, the EU directive threatening to legalise sw patents in Europe has been killed off with much hard work.
[12:04] <kingright> what else can i use besides firefox?
[12:04] <Seveas> Elsan, I always suggest to keep ram+swap at around a gigabyte unless you do heavy A/V editing
[12:04] <don> so you mean there is no software by default on the install cds that prevents me from distributing?
[12:05] <Nick_Hill> kingright, konqueror dillo
[12:05] <Nick_Hill> kingright, epiphany
[12:05] <don> NIck_Hill,i know, i have written emails to some EP members...
[12:05] <Jowi> kingright: graphical: mozilla, konqueror, dillo, epiphany. non-gui: lynx, elinks
[12:05] <erisco> hello, i am trying to set up a .tbz i am unsure of what it is, or what i do with it to make it work (it is an application). I think i need to compile it (though i do not know what that is or how to do it)
[12:05] <Elsan> Seveas: I see, so, I can take 1Gb off my Windows partition and add it to swap without any problems with the cd install?
[12:05] <erisco> brb
[12:05] <Seveas> don "You are legally entitled and encouraged to copy, share and redistribute the CD for yourself and your friends. Share the spirit of Ubuntu"
[12:05] <Seveas> (quote from the CD cover)
[12:05] <kingright> cuz i can only get to hafe of the net
[12:06] <Seveas> Elsan, you have no swap at all now?
[12:06] <senecastudent> anyone know where I can find the floppy images for ubuntu?
[12:06] <Seveas> senecastudent, nowhere
[12:06] <don> Sevas: cool - has this CD the same content as the downloadable iso?
[12:06] <Elsan> Seveas: 380 mb like the install told me, I had freed some space withj PArtition Magic before(which doesn't work anymore for some reason)
[12:06] <Seveas> don, yes
[12:06] <don> @all, thanks a lot
[12:06] <don> good night.
[12:07] <Seveas> Elsan, cat /proc/swaps
[12:07] <Seveas> Elsan, cat /proc/meminfo
[12:07] <kkathman> Greetings, I wonder if I could get a little help diagnosing a network problem, please?
[12:07] <Elsan> Seveas: I want to know if I can safely remove space from my Win partiton, I don't want to reformat again, I did it lots of time before
[12:07] <Seveas> and put the output on the pastebin
[12:07] <Seveas> Elsan, partition magic seems to be good at that
[12:07] <Nick_Hill> kkathman, Go ahead and ask the question someone may run with it, but please be descriptive as you can.
[12:07] <Seveas> and you can easily add partitions to the swap pool
[12:07] <don> Elsan, you mean resizing?
[12:08] <Elsan> Seveas: It tells me it can't find drive number and I can't start it anymore since I installed Ubuntu.; Yes, resize with the Ubuntu partman CD utility
[12:08] <Nick_Hill> Elsan, If it is fat32, you can use parted
[12:08] <pablo_> Alguein con quien poder hablar en Espaol?
[12:08] <kkathman> I had a power outage, which caused my linux box to go down. When I restarted, it hung during the boot on bringing up the network connection, and SMB failed. All my other computers are ok, and the connection point is good. The ethernet lights on the card are blinking
[12:08] <dhjohnson3> thanks for the help, everyone
[12:08] <nicks68> I found the bad screensaver! Is Antispect.
[12:09] <Elsan> Everyone helping me:P: It's NTFS, I can't make it FAT32 since Partition Magic does not work
[12:09] <dhjohnson3> nick68, was that for me?
[12:09] <kkathman> when I do an ifup eth0, it says eth0 is already configured, yet in the system settings it reports "Disabled network device"
[12:09] <Jowi> kkathman: sudo network-admin, enable eth0
[12:09] <Seveas> !es
[12:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:09] <don> kkathman: have u tried a fsck?
[12:09] <nicks68> dhjohnson3; yes.
[12:09] <herrpoonstrikes> hi can someone help me, im trying to setup firestarter but not sure excatly what i need to do to protect myself
[12:09] <dhjohnson3> nick68, cool--how did you figure that out?
[12:10] <Elsan> Seveas: Is it safe to resize NTFS with partman?
[12:10] <Seveas> herrpoonstrikes, you don't need protection on a default Ubuntu setup
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> well ive been checlking my
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> auth.log
[12:10] <Seveas> herrpoonstrikes, Ubuntu is safe by default :)
[12:10] <dhjohnson3> herrpoonstrikes, what services do you have running?
[12:10] <kkathman> Jowl it says network-admin command not found
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> servies....
[12:10] <senecastudent> I just resize NTFS with partition magic a week ago
[12:10] <Seveas> Elsan, no idea, never tried....
[12:10] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: try the preview of all the scrensavers. ...
[12:10] <herrpoonstrikes> well i forwarded a few ports
[12:11] <herrpoonstrikes> i use ssh
[12:11] <herrpoonstrikes> and i have a webserver
[12:11] <herrpoonstrikes> anyway i checked auth.loog and it seems someone was treytigng to hack me!
[12:11] <Elsan> Seveas: :/ Thanks anyway for the rest of the help!
[12:11] <Jowi> kkathman: did you install ubuntu as server? network-admin is standard in gnome.
[12:11] <dhjohnson3> nick68, i actually had several of them lock up my machine, but none of them consistently
[12:11] <moquist> Seveas: Am I on the right track with this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3417 ?  After reading a bunch of code I just slapped that together to try it out...
[12:11] <Seveas> herrpoonstrikes, just keep your passwords secure :)
[12:11] <Elsan> Is it safe to resize NTFS with the partiton utility form the install CD, anyone?
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> yeh i mean
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> they didt get in
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> but u never know!
[12:12] <sorush20> help help help
[12:12] <herrpoonstrikes> im worried now :/
[12:12] <kkathman> Jowl I just ran sudo network-admin and it came uo
[12:12] <kkathman> uo
[12:12] <_jason> Elsan:  I haven't done it, but you should defrag the drive in windows a couple of times first
[12:12] <kkathman> up
[12:12] <senecastudent> Elsan > use partition magic
[12:12] <Seveas> moquist, I never really did such a thing myself before, but it looks ok
[12:12] <kkathman> Jowl what was I to do at this point?
[12:12] <Elsan> senecastudent: It doesn't work since I installed Ubuntu
[12:13] <dhjohnson3> nick68, did that particular screensaver kill you more than once?
[12:13] <chaps0063> sorush20, if you have a question, ask it.
[12:13] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: I just tryed it om my laptop. its woring in them. Whats is youre grafic-card?
[12:13] <Jowi> kkathman: sorry, i didn't really follow you. did you or did you not get the network-admin running?
[12:13] <moquist> Seveas: ok; thx for looking at it.  I just wanted to be sure I was doing what you had in mind.
[12:13] <herrpoonstrikes> my pwords are a bit crap at the moment
[12:13] <Seveas> moquist, you would need conf_module.sh btw
[12:13] <herrpoonstrikes> what type of pwrod do u suggest i have?
[12:13] <dhjohnson3> nick68, uhh i dunno ;)
[12:13] <chaps0063> herrpoonstrikes, a good one.
[12:14] <kkathman> Jowl yes it is now running, and I see the eth0 connection
[12:14] <herrpoonstrikes> ive read stiff aobut entropy
[12:14] <Elsan> I think I will just remove Ubuntu and then resize my swap and everything else
[12:14] <kkathman> Jowl it reports "The interface etho is active"
[12:14] <moquist> Seveas: line 5 of confmodule.sh says it's obsolete and I shouldn't use it. ?
[12:14] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: yes. Antispect alwasy kills this computer.
[12:14] <chaps0063> herrpoonstrikes, mine is >10 characters, upper/lower letters, numbers, symbols.
[12:14] <dhjohnson3> herrpoonstrikes, one that has many different "types" of characters
[12:14] <dianwei> Hey, new question... It says certain files are locked to me because they belong to root. How can I get the computer to let me use them?
[12:14] <herrpoonstrikes> right ok
[12:14] <herrpoonstrikes> im going to work on one tonight then
[12:15] <herrpoonstrikes> so basically how ever many ports i hav e opne
[12:15] <herrpoonstrikes> as long as they dont get my pwrod, im ok?
[12:15] <Jowi> kkathman: click on eth0, then click on the button labeled "enable". if it already is, deactivate it and activate it again. also, check its settings so it is set to dhcp. it might be that you are getting a conflicting ip from your router. you can try to set a static ip to eth0
[12:15] <dhjohnson3> nick68, is there a log for that program?  does it indicate which screensaver was in use?  how do you open the log?
[12:15] <Seveas> moquist, hint: apt-get install debconf-doc && man 7 debconf
[12:15] <herrpoonstrikes> damn need to be registered chaps :(
[12:15] <Seveas> (I;m reading that manpage now, looks quite useful :))
[12:16] <Elsan> How can I give myself complete control over a folder for copy and the like?
[12:16] <kkathman> Jowl Im doing that now
[12:16] <jrattner1> are mp4 and m4p files the same?
[12:16] <CookedGryphon> how do i change thunderbird settings so that it downloads messages off my server and then deletes them from teh server, storign them locally? it did this automatically for the first accoutn i added, then i added a new one and deleted the first, and it jsut reads the messages off the server and leaves them on, it doesn't use the local folders bit
[12:16] <dhjohnson3> jrattner1, what do you think? ;)
[12:16] <Jowi> kkathman: set an ip to the nic that you are sure is not in use. like <IP_ADDRESS> (if your router is <IP_ADDRESS>)
[12:16] <jrattner1> dhjohnson3, i think they are? but are they?
[12:16] <Jowi> kkathman: also check that your subnetmask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:16] <dhjohnson3> no
[12:16] <kkathman> Jowl it just keeps going back and forth
[12:17] <moquist> Seveas: gee, that's a good hint.
[12:17] <kkathman> but it stopped now and says eth0 is active, but in my console there were some messages that came up for some realy
[12:17] <kkathman> reason
[12:17] <nicks68> dhjohnson3: No. i just connet to the computer from my other compurer and list the prosseses
[12:17] <sorush20> I can't save to a location and I get this error   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3419?
[12:17] <dhjohnson3> okay
[12:18] <_wotnarg> what is the package name for the X includes on ubuntu?
[12:18] <Jowi> kkathman: so try a static ip then. might be that your nic is toast, but to make sure you should test your system with a live-cd or if you have other os installed on the machine.
[12:18] <dhjohnson3> nick68, i'm going to look into the screensaver web site
[12:18] <Seveas> _wotnarg, what are you trying to compile?
[12:19] <wotnarg> Seveas: amarok actually, but that doesnt matter really.
[12:19] <sorush20> guys how are you all?
[12:19] <Seveas> wotnarg, amarok is in the repositories no need to compile
[12:19] <Elsan> jrattener: One of them(m4p I think) is an iTunes music store protected file
[12:19] <nicks68> dhjohnson3:You can always trye to preview them
[12:19] <moquist> Seveas: I wonder if setting DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical won't be enough for what I need to do...
[12:19] <wotnarg> Seveas: svn version isnt :)
[12:19] <jrattner1> Do you have to convert m4p files to listen to them in linux or can any of the players handle it?
[12:19] <Seveas> if you insist on compiling yourself: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[12:19] <kkathman> ok so when I typed that sudo network-admin at the console, the gnome app came up ok, but in the console it reports: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbif_composite: assertion 'src != NULL' failed
[12:19] <wotnarg> Seveas: ok, thanks :)
[12:19] <Jowi> hello sorush20, just fine over here. want a beer but forgot to buy any.
[12:20] <Jowi> kkathman: you can disregard that warning
[12:20] <Elsan> Silence.
[12:20] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:20] <sorush20> Jowi: thanks for the reply.. so you drink ha.. I can't cause I'm a muslim..
[12:20] <kkathman> Jowl, ok I set that IP address
[12:21] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:21] <strike3_> anybody help with wireless card - crimsun was helping but seems to have gone
[12:21] <Jowi> sorush20: oh yes. i'm lucky that way :)
[12:21] <don-o> is there an ubuntu application that will let me listen to other people's iTunes libraries?
[12:22] <Jowi> kkathman: in a terminal: "ping -c 5 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[12:22] <kkathman> Jowl ok so do I need to reactivate the eth0 again after I set the IP?
[12:22] <Jowi> kkathman: yes
[12:22] <Elsan> Is it me or is it all silence&
[12:22] <sorush20> I can't save to a location and I get this error   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3419? could someone tell me how to fix this thing
[12:22] <Elsan> How can I give myself complete control over a folder for copy and the like?
[12:23] <kkathman> Jowl I assume you want me to ping my router>
[12:23] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:23] <kkathman> when I do that, I get "Destination Host Unreachable"
[12:23] <Jowi> kkathman: ping -c 5 <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:24] <balzac> I'm wondering if alien 8.5 is current enough to convert the .rpm files of the lastest open office 2 release
[12:24] <patrickj> hey
[12:24] <balzac> alien 8.51 was suggested to me
[12:24] <patrickj> does anyone know if DW8 will work in wine or anything
[12:24] <patrickj> ?
[12:24] <nalioth> balzac: patience, ooo2 will be here soon
[12:24] <kkathman> Jowl that returns normally
[12:25] <CookedGryphon> does anyone know when openoffice 2 final will be put in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:25] <jrattner1> dpkg --install pack.deb installs a package right?
[12:25] <sorush20> why is it that I am unable to delete file from my /home/sam
[12:25] <Jowi> kkathman: is eth0 visible when you do "ifconfig"?
[12:25] <sorush20> what the hell is going on..
[12:25] <balzac> i already downloaded it, but i actually meant to ask in #openoffice.org
[12:25] <balzac> sorry
[12:25] <Seveas> jrattner1, yes
[12:25] <kkathman> Jowl yes its visible, and has the assigned IP address I gave it
[12:25] <moquist> sorush20: pm?
[12:25] <Jowi> kkathman: and the mask is?
[12:26] <kkathman> Mask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:26] <zodoz> could anyone tell me how to properly configure xorg for my amd64 laptop?
[12:26] <kkathman> Bcast: <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:26] <balzac> what are the drawbacks to installing software outside the synaptic package manager?
[12:26] <Jowi> kkathman: is your router address <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:26] <kkathman> Jowl close  <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:26] <balzac> i noticed after i installed alien 8.51 it didn't show up in synaptic
[12:26] <philip69> help I want to know how to install my device drivers in linux
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: you pulled it from somewhere other than an ubuntu repo?
[12:27] <Jowi> kkathman: so all look ok. test your nic with a live-cd or another os. best advice i can give you.
[12:27] <balzac> 8.56 is actually what i installed
[12:27] <balzac> tarheelcoxn, yes
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> eg. built from source?
[12:27] <balzac> i do that lots
[12:27] <balzac> yes
[12:27] <kkathman> Jowl, so you think its the NIC
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: dependency problems are the main risk
[12:27] <zodoz> could someone tell me how to properly configure my xorg for my amd64 laptop?
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> a new version of gcc comes along and you're left scratching your head
[12:27] <Jowi> kkathman: yep. might be the NIC connector.
[12:28] <balzac> because alien 8.51 or better was specifically recommended, and found that alien 8.5 was the one already installed
[12:28] <Jowi> kkathman: but really hard to tell. most NIC look normal even if they are faulty
[12:28] <balzac> tarheelcoxn, so then i've got a mess i can't clean up?
[12:28] <tarheelcoxn> zodoz: did you read http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/323350 ?
[12:28] <kkathman> Jowl...the NIC connection on this computer is on the Motherboard. If I put a nic card in, and plug it in, should the system recognize it ok?
[12:28] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: not necessarily
[12:28] <balzac> i hate to do irreversable things
[12:28] <tarheelcoxn> just hard to clean up
[12:29] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: the point of using something built on apt (like synaptic) is that it handles dependencies for you
[12:29] <Jowi> kkathman: absolutely worth a shot. be sure to enable it in bios if you haven't. you can also try to connect to another port on the router.
[12:29] <kingright> anyone now the link for the   konqueror dillo so i cone do a wget
[12:29] <tarheelcoxn> if you want something newer, you have to be willing to deal with dependency problems as they arise
[12:29] <cody> Afternoon. I am wondering what entry I can put in fstab to allow users (gid0000 uid0000) to access my NTFS drive. It's mounted, but my user can't access it
[12:29] <kkathman> Jowl I actuall connect to a hub that connects to the router, and that port is good, based on me hooking another computer to it
[12:30] <balzac> i'm bad at being patient for new software
[12:30] <kkathman> I will try a NIC card and see what happens.
[12:30] <tarheelcoxn> I ran debian sid for a good long while--believe me, it can be painful if you're not really careful
[12:30] <kkathman> thanks for your help
[12:30] <Jowi> kkathman: connect straight to router. hubs are not reliable.
[12:31] <dianwei> I am trying to figure out how to run as root. Does root have a default password?
[12:31] <Jowi> kkathman: at least i have had some troubles with hubs. maybe it's just my paranoia kicking in :) but it is nice to have lowest possible connections when troubleshooting network
[12:32] <balzac> tarheelcoxn, do you recommend I wait for the OOo2 package specifically for ubuntu?
[12:32] <ompaul> !root
[12:32] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:32] <dianwei> I have a ton of stuff that is owned by root :(
[12:32] <nomed> hi all
[12:33] <Jowi> balzac: OO.org2 is already available i think....
[12:33] <`NTR> hi
[12:33] <Jowi> !info openoffice.org2
[12:33] <ubotu> openoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[12:33] <Codeman7> Afternoon. I am wondering what entry I can put in fstab to allow users (gid0000 uid0000) to access my NTFS drive. It's mounted, but my user can't access it
[12:33] <dianwei> Ok, so I just use sudo to run as root?
[12:33] <nomed> how can i add files to a multisession  cd?
[12:33] <Seveas> !ntfs
[12:33] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:33] <erisco> i am trying to set up gimp shop, a version of gimp that has an adobe photoshop layout to it. i have downloaded the program as a .tbz where do i go from here? i think i may need to compile it, but i have no clue what it is or how to do it other than you need dev packages. can someone guide me in the correct path?
[12:33] <Seveas> erisco, there is a .deb for it
[12:33] <Codeman7> Seveas: thanks :)
[12:34] <rkd> In Nautilus, with mp3 files, right-click > Properties > Audio/Video doesn't give any information. mp3info from the command line does provide it, though, so it's there. Any idea what's going on?
[12:34] <jrattner1> How do you decrypt m4p's with gstreamer?
[12:34] <tarheelcoxn> balzac: what ubotu said
[12:35] <balzac> I'm on dialup and i downloaded these rpms overnight
[12:35] <balzac> can I convert my rpms to debs and then refer to them from the synaptic system? or should I just re-download?
[12:35] <jrattner1> How do you decrypt m4p's with gstreamer-faad
[12:35] <nalioth> jrattner1: you do not
[12:35] <nalioth> jrattner1: we dont discuss breaking drm in here
[12:36] <cafuego_> balzac: Depends on what they are. generally it's a very bad idea.
[12:36] <balzac> ok, i get the picture
[12:36] <go_play> can anyone suggests me partition sizes for server on a 4.3GB hard disk????
[12:36] <jrattner1> nalioth, Im not trying to break drm, im trying to decrypt my own download itunes so I can play them in xmms.
[12:36] <cafuego_> go_play: 50Mb /boot, 4 GB /, rest swap
[12:37] <sorush20> guys please.. I have no idea why I can't delete file form my desktop..
[12:37] <moquist> sorush20: private message ok?
[12:37] <cafuego_> jrattner1: Yes, that's illegal.
[12:37] <balzac> sorush20, have you right-clicked and viewed properties?
[12:37] <jrattner1> cafuego, my bad
[12:37] <moquist> sorush20: listen to balzac.  :)
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> go_play : use 4G / and make sure you have plenty ram, but wouldnt let swap go below 256
[12:38] <cafuego_> jrattner1: Mind you, google will help you out there if you search for itunes, aac and linux.
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> you dont need a 50mb /boot on a system with so little space
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> a 50mb /boot will waste around 40mb
[12:39] <erisco> are .deb extensions that are used with apt-get and synaptic?
[12:39] <cafuego_> lsuactiafner: That depends on the number of kernels. I find 10Mb too small usually, as I don't trash old known-good ekrnels on production systems.
[12:39] <nalioth> erisco: they are used on debian systems, yes
[12:39] <jrattner1> hehe : )
[12:40] <cafuego_> go_play: Actually, with 512MB swap, you could use tmpfs to have a separate /tmp mount.
[12:40] <cafuego_> (decent sized one, that is)
[12:40] <sizzam> whats the package called that is needed to get dvd menus to work correctly in xine
[12:41] <alekz> anyone has a inklevel for gdesklets ?
[12:41] <Jowi> sizzam: libdvdnav4 i beleive
[12:41] <sizzam> jowi: thanx
[12:41] <dianwei> Thanks again guys
[12:42] <lucky_strike> hi
[12:42] <kkathman> Jowl:  It works now...I simply had to reboot after making those changes
[12:42] <kriley> How do I get a few shell commands to run when ubuntu 5.10 starts?
[12:42] <Jowi> sizzam: but i'm not sure if libdvdplay0 also support it
[12:42] <TiMiDo> kriley man update.rc-d
[12:42] <kriley> thanks
[12:42] <TiMiDo> np
[12:42] <Jowi> sizzam: install both to be on the safe side :)
[12:42] <lucky_strike> I have a question - did anyone order CDs with ubuntu with ShipIt to Germany? how long does it take?
[12:43] <Jowi> sizzam: i use both with totem-xine. works great
[12:43] <echo> Hi, i got a extremly stange error while i tryed to start wine.... "
[12:43] <echo> failed while creating '/home/echo/.wine'." anyone know what is wrong?
[12:43] <TiMiDo> echo do mkdir .wine
[12:43] <TiMiDo> or sudo apt-get install winesetup
[12:43] <TiMiDo> and run it with winesetup
[12:47] <j69ds> hello
[12:47] <nvve> how do you install .deb files?
[12:48] <TiMiDo> nvve dpkg -i deb
[12:48] <TiMiDo> as sudo
[12:48] <nvve> deb = xyz.deb file?
[12:48] <kkathman> Jowl again thank you for your time
[12:48] <TiMiDo> sudo deb -i xyz.deb
[12:48] <nvve> thanks, im off to install now =P
[12:48] <j69ds> anybidy know why ubutu 5.10 keeps failing on install, it gets to about halfway base install then fails
[12:48] <TiMiDo> ok no problem
[12:48] <Jowi> kkathman: you're welcome man
[12:49] <strannik> need help with my sound...
[12:49] <TiMiDo> j69ds what machine is it?
[12:49] <TiMiDo> !tell strannik about sound
[12:49] <strannik> thank you
[12:49] <j69ds> pc is a 1400 mhz amd, onboard sound video etc pc
[12:49] <TiMiDo> np
[12:49] <TiMiDo> oh
[12:49] <TiMiDo> amd
[12:49] <TiMiDo> is it an amd64?
[12:50] <j69ds> no regular amd
[12:50] <TiMiDo> oh ic,
[12:50] <TiMiDo> do you get any errors?
[12:50] <TiMiDo> on the installation?
[12:50] <skiy_> Hi TiMiDo do you have more than one sound device installed in your system?
[12:50] <j69ds> none untill it fails then says that it cannot install and to check a .log file
[12:51] <skiy_> e.g. sound card & motherboard audio ?
[12:51] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know what features breezy is going to have
[12:51] <TiMiDo> j69ds then clean the cd and try again
[12:51] <TiMiDo> Lord_Maynoth breezy is already released
[12:51] <j69ds> I tried reburning the cd also tried with a different cd drive
[12:51] <balzac> balzac do you have all permissions checked?
[12:51] <balzac> sorush20 No I still can't delete.. have a look at the permissions.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3420
[12:51] <balzac> balzac looking
[12:51] <balzac> balzac I'm a linux newb as well, so I'll just paste this back into the channel...
[12:51] <Lord_Maynoth> er I mean dapper drake
[12:51] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know what features dapper drake is going to have?
[12:51] <TiMiDo> ask on #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu
[12:52] <root____1> why isn't this working? mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -t ntfs -o rw users
[12:52] <j69ds> any other ideas
[12:53] <j69ds> could one copy the install to hadrdrive and run it from there somehow
[12:54] <mario_> hay alguien que escriba en espaol?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[12:54] <aabot> !es
[12:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:54] <Lord_Maynoth> su dios es muerto
[12:55] <gci> you french
[12:55] <gci> ok
[12:56] <Lord_Maynoth> yes
[12:56] <Lord_Maynoth> I am french
[12:56] <gci> french french oui
[12:56] <B_166-ER-X> ..
[12:56] <derchilligephil|> how can i use make
[12:56] <B_166-ER-X> franchement :P
[12:56] <derchilligephil|> and where can i get it
[12:56] <derchilligephil|> want to install no-ip client
[12:56] <QMario> Hello Seveas and ompaul!!! :)
[12:56] <gci> franchement FR
[12:56] <MrBean> does anyone know a good wireless card that works with ubuntu ?
[12:57] <ericz> what's different about just running KDE on ubuntu and installing Kubuntu??
[12:57] <MrBean> that i can buy from somewere
[12:57] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: sudo apt-get install no-ip <--- the easy way
[12:57] <derchilligephil|> hehe
[12:57] <derchilligephil|> k
[12:57] <QMario> How do I play .mid files in Ubuntu?
[12:57] <nalioth> ericz: they are the same action
[12:57] <ericz> ok...
[12:57] <QMario> Hello nalioth!!! :)
[12:57] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: no need to "make" it manually since it is already available to install :)
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> yeah great
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> im new
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> ;)
[12:58] <thinman> when i add domain into my dhcp ip, it automatic remove after running /etc/init.d/networking daemon ? please help
[12:58] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[12:58] <Jowi> no probs derchilligephil|
[12:58] <marsh> youz guys are my last dying attempt to get this going before i get some well earned shut eye...
[12:58] <gimmulf> damn cant get this rar-free working... everything i try to extract fails...
[12:58] <Jowi> hello nalioth
[12:58] <gimmulf> is there any better rar sofdtware?
[12:58] <derchilligephil|> i love the shell
[12:59] <QMario> Hello Jowi!!! :)
[12:59] <Jowi> gimmulf: sudo apt-get install unrar
[12:59] <derchilligephil|> its a interesting way to control a pc
[12:59] <derchilligephil|> :)
[12:59] <nalioth> gimmulf: why use rar we have gzip, bzip2 rzip, and on and on
[12:59] <Jowi> hi QMario :)
[12:59] <j69ds> help with install needed, no mater I try ubuntu not installing on a pc clone (amd chip) it gets to halfway base install then fails. tried a couple of cd's and cd drives also.. any ideas
[12:59] <gimmulf> nalioth:  everyone doesmnt use that
[12:59] <nalioth> gimmulf: winzip will open all but rzip
[01:00] <gimmulf> Jowi:  Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:00] <B_166-ER-X> is there someone that would really know why something dont work on ubuntu ? i have a problem ,and the usual solution wont work, and its too complicated to write it all here
[01:00] <Jowi> !info unrar
[01:00] <nalioth> gimmulf: unrar-nonfree
[01:00] <marsh> I'm finding problems deleting files (or chmod'ing them) on a usb disk... have changed the permissions once to 777, but it still wont let me delete them - says it's a 'read only file system' - but mount says its mounted (rw), umask=0000 (i mounted it by hand). Can anyone help me out...?
[01:00] <QMario> So, what do you think nalioth?
[01:00] <marsh> please...?
[01:00] <Jowi> unrar; source unrar-nonfree. ah
[01:00] <derchilligephil|> sudo apt-get install no-ip wont work
[01:01] <nalioth> QMario: think about what?
[01:01] <Jowi> !info no-ip
[01:01] <ubotu> no-ip: (A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[01:01] <gimmulf> Jowi:  what ? :)
[01:01] <QMario> What program in Ubuntu can play .mid files?
[01:01] <B_166-ER-X> please :| i dont want to reinstall
[01:01] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: you need to enable "universe" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:01] <Jowi> !+repos
[01:01] <ubotu> well, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:01] <gimmulf> Jowi:  what command should i use?
[01:02] <mario_> hola
[01:02] <azeem> B_166-ER-X: write to the ubuntu-users mailing list or the forums describing your problem
[01:02] <mario_> HOLA
[01:02] <QMario> Hola, mario_!!! :)
[01:02] <nalioth> QMario: i recommend you open a terminal and type "apt-cache search midi"
[01:02] <Jowi> gimmulf: i'm trying to remember where i got unrar from. was before i updated to breezy.
[01:02] <gimmulf> k
[01:02] <marsh> hola mario
[01:02] <mario_> ES LA PRIMERA VEZ QUE USO ESTO
[01:02] <derchilligephil|> cant find package
[01:02] <lucky_strike> I have a question - did anyone order CDs with ubuntu with ShipIt to Germany? how long does it take?
[01:02] <Sanne> QMario: dunno if it's in Ubuntu, but timidity is a software midi player, you might want to try it.
[01:03] <jeffisageek> hey I am trying to install flock on my computer i have all the files out of the zipped file does anyone know what i need to do to install it
[01:03] <nalioth> mario_: por favor vaya de el #ubuntu-es
[01:03] <marsh> no-one? no one know why my filesystem says it's ro?
[01:03] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: you need to enable "universe" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <derchilligephil|> yeah sry
[01:03] <echo> :/ anyone know how 2 solve this? "wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/echo/.wine'." ??? (winesetup dose not ether work).
[01:04] <jeffisageek> there is a flock-bin file would that be what i need to run? to install
[01:04] <MrBean> anyone know any good online shops for hardware ??
[01:04] <B_166-ER-X> azeem too long for a response, its important boot problem.
[01:04] <marsh> MrBean, where u?
[01:04] <MrBean> in uk
[01:04] <jeffisageek> or a flock.sh file also
[01:05] <mario_> SE QUE ESTOY EN LA SALA EQUIVOCADA
[01:05] <mario_> ALGUIEN ME PUEDE ECHAR UN CABLE
[01:05] <derchilligephil|> how do i set this file up
[01:05] <derchilligephil|> universe
[01:05] <Jowi> mario_: /join #ubuntu-es please
[01:06] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <derchilligephil|> yeah i know
[01:06] <derchilligephil|> but mom
[01:06] <marsh> well thaNKS GENTS :(
[01:06] <marsh> sorry (caps), am tired
[01:07] <derchilligephil|> cant connect to list
[01:07] <jeffisageek> can anyone help me with the install of flock?  there is a flock.sh file is that what i want to use to install?
[01:07] <nalioth> jeffisageek: there are no READMEs with your flock files?
[01:07] <derchilligephil|> "/var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages"
[01:07] <sorush20> anyone here want a gmail accout..
[01:08] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: type this in a terminal "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" after that you add a line like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[01:08] <jeffisageek> well looks like it is the same if you were installing firefox
[01:08] <jeffisageek> since that is what it is with a few extras really :D
[01:08] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: follow my instructions and you will succeed.
[01:08] <B_166-ER-X> last call before i format : is there someone who can help me with a linux-image problem ?
[01:08] <sizzam> is clipboard functionality supposed to be fixed in breezy so you dont need gnome-clipboard-daemon
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> B_166-ER-X : what do you mean?
[01:09] <echo> What ype of image problem?
[01:09] <echo> type*
[01:09] <derchilligephil|> cant connect to list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[01:10] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: what do you mean "can't connect" what are you doing?
[01:10] <alex_> hi
[01:11] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: did you add "universe" or not? after you have saved the file you need to type this in a terminal; "sudo apt-get update"
[01:11] <alex_> i m brazil
[01:11] <derchilligephil|> he say to me the he cant connect to the list with the packages
[01:11] <B_166-ER-X> long story short : i followed : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76309 , and it 'broke' my system, if i dont use .bak at the end of my inirt at boot it just says : FATAL : could not load /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.dep : no such file or directory     , and i DID put back the initrd.img like it was, and i did dpkg-reconfigure the linux image...so here i am
[01:11] <alex_> sao paulo
[01:11] <nalioth> !br
[01:11] <sunshine82> how do i execute tar.gz
[01:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:11] <sunshine82> files
[01:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sunshine82 about cli
[01:12] <sunshine82> it tar - something
[01:12] <sunshine82> nalioth who cli
[01:12] <nalioth> sunshine82: look to your private messages
[01:12] <El_Che> sunshine82: tar xzvf *.tar.gz
[01:12] <B_166-ER-X> lsuactiafner,  et echo . you see...
[01:12] <B_166-ER-X> et = and
[01:14] <bubba> hi - i just removed my mouse temporarily from my computer, and ubuntu no longer recognises it. any idea why? it's a Microsoft USB mouse.
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> How do I set up different users on the system with different languages (for the menus, the desktop, applications, etc.)?
[01:15] <QMario> Thank God!!! :) It plays.
[01:15] <QMario> Thank you for the suggestion Sanne!!! ;)
[01:15] <B_166-ER-X> any1 ??
[01:16] <echo> Hmm, i dont really know B_166-ER-X, sorry......
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> like most peaple.
[01:16] <Sanne> QMario: cool! you're welcome :)
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> yea
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> eo
[01:16] <sunshine82> nalioth nahh that tar xzvf didnt work where do i put that star
[01:17] <sunshine82> is it tar xzvf *. (filename) tar.gz
[01:17] <lucky_strike>  it tar - something
[01:17] <lucky_strike> * Kyral has joined #ubuntu
 nalioth who cli
[01:17] <lucky_strike> * locomorto has joined #ubuntu
 sunshine82: look to your private messages
 sunshine82: tar xzvf *.tar.gz
 lsuactiafner,  et echo . you see...
 et = and
[01:17] <lucky_strike> * Buo has joined #ubuntu
[01:17] <lucky_strike> oops sry!!
[01:17] <Jowi> sunshine82: replace the * with your filename: tar xzvf filename.tar.gz
[01:17] <Buo> Hi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu in a IBM Aptiva Cyrix 586 100Mhz / 24MB RAM... Its BIOS doesn't support CD-ROM boot... how can I do to make it work??
[01:18] <echo> Hehe, i got a starnge problem...  :S
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> Buo: First, are you sure the BIOS doesn't support it at all, and it's not just a configuration issue?
[01:18] <nalioth> sunshine82: open a terminal and type "man tar"
[01:18] <Jowi> Buo: 24mb ram is not enough for anything.
[01:18] <Buo> no?
[01:19] <Buo> duh!
[01:19] <gimmulf> Please give me a tip on a nice unrar software.. unrar-free sucks :/
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> Buo: Your other option would be to download a disk image and install from that I suppose.
[01:19] <MrBean> wat did it run windows 1.0 ?
[01:19] <Jowi> Buo, well, X is out of the question. maybe you can run text-mode/console only
[01:19] <jbroome> Buo: hang on, i'm trying to dig up a link for you
[01:19] <nalioth> gimmulf: unrar-nonfree
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Probably a good point.  Where'd this computer come from anyway?
[01:19] <Ron_o> actually, if I can remember correctly, Bill Gates said that no one should ever need anymore than 64KB of RAM.
[01:19] <Kingbahamut> evening ladies and gents
[01:19] <Jowi> Ron_o: lol
[01:20] <Buo> ok I'll wait
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> echo : since you installed it as root, only root can make new files in the directories
[01:20] <Jowi> Ron_o: it's actually in my OS/2 manual!
[01:20] <gimmulf> nalioth:  cant find that package
[01:20] <Ron_o> His words are?
[01:20] <nalioth> gimmulf: enable all your repos
[01:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gimmulf about sources
[01:20] <balzac> suppose I begin to install something large from the internet with synaptic, but it gets interrupted by loss of access to the internet. can i resume without any troubles?
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to configure languages for different users?
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> B_166-ER-X btw i dont use ubuntu kernels/modules do got no idea how to fix related problems
[01:21] <Jowi> Ron_o: yeah, some wierd quotes in there
[01:21] <TiMiDo> damn i'm bored
[01:21] <echo> Nah luaciafner... "wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/root/.wine'."
[01:21] <Ron_o> wow, I'd love to see those in print..
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> balzac: I haven't tried, but I would doubt it.
[01:21] <bubba> 'so no-ones ever had to configure ubuntu for a usb mouse?
[01:21] <Ron_o> He also said the internet would go nowhere.
[01:21] <Ron_o> yah, he
[01:21] <nevyn> hell no
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> as i said.. echo : open a root terminal and see if it works then... but try not to run wine as root
[01:21] <Ron_o> yah, he's some kind of genius alright.
[01:21] <nevyn> bubba: it should just go if you plug it in and give it a second
[01:22] <Buo> I've got OS/2 Warp 4.0 / Windows 98SE running on that PC and can't run a good Linux distro? :( That's a bad news :(
[01:22] <bubba> i checked the X server conf file and it seems to keep reverting to a ps/2 mouse
[01:22] <Ron_o> anyway, I got an old computer out and am just waiting for Ubuntu to arrive.
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Mine has always worked just fine.  Have you tried rebooting and seeing if the same thing would happen again?
[01:22] <Ron_o> I've got an old Gateway G6-350
[01:22] <bubba> yeah
[01:22] <bubba> it didnt recognise the mouse
[01:22] <echo> I did run wine as root....
[01:22] <bubba> i'll give it another go
[01:22] <bubba> back in a bit okay?
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> bubba: All right, sounds good.
[01:23] <Jowi> Buo, I think you might give Slackware a go. DSL has got a live-cd that should run on your computer with a bit of luck. Bonzai might as well.
[01:24] <derchilligephil|> i have a directory "/mp3/windows/" and i want all files in there to copy to /mp3/
[01:24] <derchilligephil|> mv /mp3/windows /mp3 wont work
[01:25] <gimmulf> nalioth:  hmm i have marked every resitory in the list still cant find it
[01:25] <lsuactiafner> slackware works better on older hardware than ubuntu, though slackware would be a little bit more effort to get working if it doesnt work out of the box
[01:25] <erisco> i am trying to get XML::Parser to work... but after i do cpan -i XML::Parser it comes back with more errors than the terminal can hold
[01:25] <lsuactiafner> since they use solid safe configurations though not always optimal.
[01:25] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: mv -R /mp3/windows/* /mp3/ (will move all files under mp3/windows)
[01:25] <sunshine82> jowi i tried that i got an error
[01:26] <erisco>   /usr/bin/make -j3 -- NOT OK
[01:26] <Buo> people... all i need is a linux where i can run Apache, PHP, MySQL and a Browser... is that possible on my PC??
[01:26] <derchilligephil|> is mv = cut
[01:26] <erisco> i think the -j3 is not right
[01:26] <derchilligephil|> because i have no space
[01:26] <derchilligephil|> :)
[01:26] <erisco> though i was not sure what to use in that space
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> erisco : nice -n -1 -j 2 is ok
[01:26] <Jowi> sunshine82: ok, how about: file-roller filename.tar.gz
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> erisco : nice -n -1 make -j 2 is ok
[01:26] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: mv = move
[01:26] <bubba> No luck with the mouse.
[01:27] <bubba> it usually lights up as its optical
[01:27] <derchilligephil|> yeah but is it coping and delting after copying or not
[01:27] <bubba> but it's not lit up
[01:27] <Jowi> derchilligephil|: try with a few files to try it out. live a little :)
[01:27] <bubba> haha
[01:28] <derchilligephil|> yeah
[01:28] <derchilligephil|> maybe its the best :)
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Hmm.  Some sort of problem with the hotplug system I guess, although I don't know what to do about that.  Have you investigated any other USB devices?
[01:28] <bubba> i have a usb hdd
[01:28] <bubba> and that is being detected and mounting fine.
[01:28] <Jowi> bubba: battery check!
[01:28] <Jowi> lol
[01:28] <bubba> in the mouse?
[01:29] <Jowi> bubba: optical wireless wasn't it?
[01:29] <bubba> no
[01:29] <Jowi> oh
[01:29] <bubba> its wired
[01:29] <bubba> but good point
[01:30] <bubba> maybe i should just go out and buy a ps2 mouse :)
[01:30] <Jowi> how about running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to let X reconfigure the mouse settings for you...?
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> bubba: In that case, it might depend what this mouse is worth to you.  It worked before though, at least briefly?
[01:30] <gimmulf> im getting this error when reloading respitories: http://pastebin.com/401465
[01:30] <derek> so i am having a problem with breezy.... i just installed warty -> hoary -> breezy..... gdm loads.... i try to log into gnome it RARELY works. usually i just see the backdrop. When it does work, i notice i have only openoffice1 packages, not 2 (i did a dist-upgrade all three times). WHen gnome does load and i try to open a gtk app, it takes like 10 minutes to open. Once apps are open, the system is responsive(so it isn't system resources)...
[01:30] <cfh_dev> What log do I check to see what failed in the boot sequence?
[01:30] <bubba> yeah jowi i did that
[01:31] <bubba> i wasnt sure which /dev to choose
[01:31] <Jowi> bubba: yeah, never had an USB mouse before so i'm of no help there
[01:31] <bubba> ok
[01:31] <bubba> i think i'll just get a new mouse
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> bubba: I've had them plenty, but never had a problem.
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Go for it.
[01:31] <Jowi> bubba: maybe /dev/input/mice
[01:31] <derek> anyone knwo what is wrong with my weird gnome behavior?
[01:31] <bubba> the other usb devices cant be interfering can they?
[01:32] <sunshine82> everytime i try and extrack ymessenger which is a deb file i get an error
[01:32] <bubba> is there a way to control the gui with the keys?
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> bubba: I don't think so.  Can you attach multiple other devices and not have problems with any of those?
[01:32] <bubba> i mean to move the point around?
[01:33] <bubba> maybe hotplug isnt running
[01:33] <gimmulf> Can someone help me getting some good rar software, im dying here :)only have this unrar-free but it doesnt seem to work, just showing failed on every file i try to extract...
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> bubba: No clue.  If my mouse fails I still have the TrackPoint and touchpad left, so I've never needed to know that.
[01:33] <bubba> ok
[01:33] <bubba> thanks for listening guys
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> bubba: But you said other stuff would plug and play, right?  Or were they already in?
[01:34] <bubba> they were already there
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> In that case, anyone know how to manually start hotplug?
[01:34] <bubba> but i could remove them and on the next reboot they would be recognised
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> bubba: During boot, or if you attached them after it was up?
[01:35] <Jowi> gimmulf: if unrar doesn't do it for you i have no idea what can.
[01:35] <cfh_dev> bubba: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices will show you the details of your usb stuff.  I used that to setup my mouse in x
[01:35] <bubba> wow ok
[01:35] <gimmulf> Jowi:  isnt the command for extracting just: unrar-free -x file.rar?
[01:35] <gimmulf> cant understand why it aint working
[01:35] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: unrar -x file.rar
[01:35] <foampeace> hi
[01:35] <Jowi> gimmulf: no. "unrar x filename.rar"
[01:36] <cfh_dev> foampeace: hola
[01:36] <bubba> tony> they were there before booting
[01:36] <gimmulf> Jowi:  i dont have unrar
[01:36] <gimmulf> just this unrar-free
[01:36] <Jowi> oh.
[01:36] <gimmulf> only rar thing i can find in the packet manager
[01:36] <bubba> i think i need to get to bed
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> bubba: So we still have no confirmation of anything using hotplug successfully.
[01:37] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: if unrar free is dying then you probably have a Rar 3.0 file.
[01:37] <bubba> shall i try to remove it and plug it back in
[01:37] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: for that, you'll need to get the unrar non-free version
[01:37] <kingright> where can i get a good BitTorrent program for ubuntu
[01:37] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:37] <gimmulf> cfh_dev:  how ? :)
[01:37] <stephen2> I have some source code that wants to compile with gcc-3.4. This computer doesnt have internet connection yet, so I can't download gcc-3.4
[01:37] <Jowi> gimmulf: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/u/unrar-nonfree/
[01:37] <nalioth> gimmulf: you have to enable universe and multiverse
[01:37] <gimmulf> thanks
[01:37] <cfh_dev> gimmulf: it's in multiverse
[01:37] <stephen2> How do I force it to compile with gcc-4.0?
[01:37] <derek> kingright: apt-get install bittornado
[01:37] <nalioth> gimmulf: see what ubotu sent you
[01:37] <cfh_dev> Kingbahamut: I've used the gnome bt stuff but prefer BitTornado
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> kingright: One comes preinstalled.
[01:38] <cfh_dev> kingright: I've used the gnome bt stuff but prefer BitTornado
[01:38] <cfh_dev> Kingbahamut: sorry, wrong person
[01:38] <kingright> ty
[01:38] <gimmulf> nalioth:  i checked that out and i have marked: Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger (Universe) in the respitories
[01:38] <cfh_dev> kingright: Azureus is cool but eats up a lot of resources to run
[01:38] <stephen2> Anyone?
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Yeah, at least to learn better where the problem is.
[01:39] <_jaypee> hello, i would like to compile mplayer under ubuntu, do I have to ./configure --prefix=/usr or just ./configure
[01:39] <nalioth> gimmulf: have you updated your apt-get?
[01:39] <ptashek> hawye
[01:39] <gimmulf> nalioth:  dont think so
[01:39] <bubba> ok
[01:39] <nalioth> gimmulf: that would help
[01:39] <bubba> good news is that i have fixed it
[01:39] <kingright> all i got hen i typed was
[01:39] <cfh_dev> stephen2: you should be able to type gcc-4.0 <input file> to use gcc 4.0
[01:39] <kingright> Reading package lists... Done
[01:39] <kingright> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:39] <kingright> E: Couldn't find package bittornado
[01:39] <bubba> bad new is i have no idea why
[01:39] <gimmulf> nalioth:  how do i do that?
[01:39] <bubba> hehe
[01:39] <Jowi> _jaypee: mplayer is in the repos already. no need to compile it
[01:39] <gimmulf> thru packet manager?
[01:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gimmulf about apt-get
[01:39] <jackster> guys, where do i get hold of GLIB?
[01:39] <bubba> i put it into another usb port
[01:40] <bubba> and it recognised it there
[01:40] <Jowi> !info mplayer
[01:40] <cfh_dev> kingright: it might be in universe or multiverse.  Be sure to check there
[01:40] <bubba> but not on some other sockets
[01:40] <stephen2> ok. Now, normally to compile it, i'd just type make
[01:40] <bubba> how strage
[01:40] <nalioth> _jaypee: plain ./configure will do
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Well, sometimes that's all it takes, work with it for now.
[01:40] <stephen2> would I now type "gcc-4.0 make"?
[01:40] <Jowi> is mplayer removed?
[01:40] <Zealot87> im trying to copy some desklets into the desklet folder and it says that i dont have permission, but im the only user of the computer haha, is there a way that i can log in as admin, or tell it to not need permission or something
[01:40] <bubba> i forgot those sockets were even there.
[01:40] <bubba> sorry to take up your time guys
[01:40] <_jaypee> jowi i just wanted the newest version
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> bubba: If you feel like spending the money, you might need to get someone to look at your hardware.
[01:40] <cfh_dev> stephen2: you'll need to change some make params
[01:40] <kingright> how do i get there im new with linux
[01:40] <Jowi> _jaypee: goot point
[01:40] <_jaypee> because it has that vulnerability fix
[01:40] <Jowi> goot = good
[01:41] <_jaypee> but thanks guys
[01:41] <stephen2> How do I do that?
[01:41] <Zealot87> the computer says im not the owner! which is really confusing
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> So gnome-language-selector lists "language available to people using the system".  How are they available?  How to I change individual users, not the default language?
[01:41] <Jowi> bubba: glad it sorted itself out
[01:41] <jackster> zealot87: sudo
[01:41] <bubba> perhaps the old usb ports are not usb2?
[01:41] <Zealot87> just type sudo in
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> bubba: Perhaps.
[01:41] <Jowi> _jaypee: ./configure should do it
[01:41] <gimmulf> sudo apt-get upgrade   ?
[01:41] <Zealot87> jackster,  but im doing things with Nautilus, and it says im not the owner
[01:41] <bubba> thanks agian
[01:41] <bubba> 1 sec
[01:42] <cfh_dev> kingright: in /etc/apt/sources.list, add "universe multiverse" to the end of the line that ends with "breezy main restricted"
[01:42] <kingright> how do i get to  universe?
[01:42] <jackster> zealot87: oh, i dont know then, ive been wanting to know how to do that aswell
[01:42] <jackster> anyone know how to get a hold of Glib?
[01:42] <_jaypee> thanks jowi!
[01:42] <_jaypee> compiling now
[01:42] <Zealot87> can anyone tell me how i can tell Nautilus that I am the owner? so that i can copy/write/execute files
[01:43] <Jowi> gimmulf: "apt-get update" will update your list. "apt-get upgrade" will upgrade all your applications and stuff to the latest versions.
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> Anyone?  Anyone use another language want to tell me how it's done, or where it might be in a FAQ somewhere?
[01:43] <jackster> anyone know where to get Glib?
[01:43] <ptashek> anyone got wine running on breezy?
[01:43] <jackster> i got XWine
[01:43] <jackster> on breezy
[01:43] <stephen2> Ok. I can't figure this out.
[01:43] <ptashek> jackster: gnu.org?
[01:44] <jackster> ptashek: what about gnu.org
[01:44] <cyphase> how do you getdetailed information about your memory?
[01:44] <cyphase> RAM* :)
[01:44] <ptashek> jackster: xwine? is that the gaming one?
[01:44] <ptashek> jackster: you can get glib on gnu.org AFAIR
[01:44] <jackster> ptashek: no, XWine is an X frontend for wine, quite nice
[01:44] <strannik> Guys, could some one help me out by taking a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=433408#post433408
[01:45] <Zealot87> does anyone know how to tell Nautilus that I am the owner?!
[01:45] <jackster> ptashek: thanks for that, ill have a look
[01:45] <cyphase> Zealot87, owner of a file?
[01:45] <Zealot87> owner of the computer, it wont let me copy and write files
[01:45] <cyphase> hmmm..
[01:45] <cyphase> which files do you mean?
[01:45] <cyphase> just an example
[01:45] <stephen2> How do I configure make to use gcc-4.0 instead of 3.4?
[01:46] <Zealot87> im using a tarball to copy a desklet to the desklet directories, and it says "you dont have permission to do that
[01:46] <Zealot87> and then i thought i would look it folder properties, and it says that im not the owner of the folder,
[01:46] <cyphase> Zealot, your personal desklets, or system-wide desklets?
[01:46] <Zealot87> i dunno what the difference is
[01:46] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:46] <cyphase> what is the directory name?
[01:46] <gimmulf> Jowi:  http://pastebin.com/401470
[01:46] <cyphase> path*
[01:46] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: I only managed to update the whole system to another language, not just the wm itself. i don't use gnome, but i think there is a command called "gnome-language-selector" or something. might be what you are looking for.
[01:47] <Zealot87> usr/share/desklets
[01:47] <cyphase> yea..
[01:47] <Zealot87> gdesklets*
[01:47] <cyphase> you don't have permission to that
[01:47] <stephen2> How do I configure make to use gcc-4.0 by default?
[01:47] <Jowi> gimmulf: "sudo apt-get update"
[01:47] <Zealot87> aww why!!?
[01:47] <cyphase> it's owned by root i would think
[01:47] <cyphase> to protect you
[01:47] <jcape> stephen: update-alternatives
[01:47] <Zealot87> ohh
[01:47] <gimmulf> yes Jowi  but theres something wrong with one of the mirrors
[01:47] <Zealot87> so how do i install desklets then
[01:47] <Zealot87> ha
[01:48] <stephen2> jcape: I dont have an internet connection
[01:48] <cyphase> you can install them on your own account
[01:48] <stephen2> on that computer
[01:48] <cyphase> use the interface in the program
[01:48] <jcape> stephen: /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/gcc, which is a symlink to your preferred compiler in /usr/bin
[01:48] <Zealot87> ok ill do that
[01:48] <Jowi> gimmulf: can you please post your /etc/apt/sources.list in the pastebin?
[01:48] <cyphase> i'm running gdesklets right now
[01:48] <Fugitive> sorry to interrupt the conversation... but I have a questions...
[01:48] <gimmulf> ok
[01:48] <jcape> stephen: the "update-alternatives" program manages those symlinks
[01:48] <cyphase> that's how i would do it
[01:48] <InfoPro> ok
[01:48] <cyphase> if you want to install system-wide desklets..
[01:48] <stephen2> Well, this driver, when I run the "make" on it, it defaults to gcc-3.4
[01:48] <stephen2> is that what I use 'update-alternatives' for?
[01:49] <jcape> stephen: Yes
[01:49] <cyphase> Zealot87, let me know how it turns out
[01:49] <gimmulf> Jowi:  http://pastebin.com/401471
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: There is gnome-language-selector, but what it does is allow you to choose which languages to install on the system, and which one to use as the default "For new accounts and the login screen".
[01:49] <stephen2> Ok, so what do I type to make it point gcc-3.4 at gcc-4.0?
[01:49] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: aha. ok.
[01:49] <gimmulf> Jowi:  deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse   and  deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse seem to be broken
[01:50] <jayparadise> anyone got the error during grub when you type kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/rootdevice it tells you that your correct root device is screweed up?
[01:50] <cyphase> how do i get detailed memory info for my computer?
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: But it then says that they are all "available" to users of the system, whatever that means.
[01:50] <cyphase> like size, type, etc
[01:50] <jayparadise> my root device isnt screwed up, im on it now
[01:50] <Zealot87> cyphase, worked wonders, i didnt even have to extract them out of the tarballs
[01:50] <cyphase> i know
[01:50] <Zealot87> thanks for the help!
[01:50] <cyphase> np
[01:50] <Zealot87> good bye
[01:50] <cyphase> bye
[01:50] <jcape> stephen2: Dunno offhand
[01:51] <Jimbob> stephen2: Sorry, switching machines
[01:52] <Jowi> gimmulf: breezy backports are not available yet. you can comment those out.
[01:52] <Jimbob> stephen2: "sudo update-alternatives --config gcc"
[01:52] <Jimbob> stephen2: That'll let you set your default gcc to -4.0
[01:52] <Jimbob> (or should, at least)
[01:52] <gimmulf> oki Jowi
[01:53] <Jimbob> stephen2: This is from the man page for update-alternatives
[01:53] <Jowi> gimmulf: then do "sudo apt-get update" again
[01:54] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:54] <QMario> How do I install .jar files?
[01:54] <gimmulf> Jowi:  hmmm semmes like it doesnt understand i commented thoose 2
[01:55] <sizzam> ugh, firefox is ticking me off
[01:55] <mikal_> According to apt-get, I have readline and zlib installed, but I can't #include to either of them.
[01:55] <Permico> Jar are Java archives
[01:55] <transgress> sizzam: me too.
[01:55] <sizzam> transgress:  whats your beef?   mine is the crashing on embedded vids
[01:55] <stephen2> it says no alternatives for gcc
[01:55] <Jowi> gimmulf: so delete them, save, and update.
[01:56] <QMario> Permico, I know.
[01:56] <allamchz> hello
[01:56] <QMario> So what do I do with them?
[01:56] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:56] <gimmulf> oki done Jowi
[01:56] <allamchz> cual es el canal de espaol?
[01:56] <gimmulf>  sudo apt-cache search unrar  still just finds unrar-free Jowi  :/
[01:56] <QMario> Permico?
[01:56] <balzac> i just ordered my breezy whore CDs! la ti da!
[01:56] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: i can't find any references either. i think you should post a question on the forums. i use two languages as well and that would be great thing to have
[01:57] <sunshine82> how do i get alsa oss
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: We'll give it a shot.
[01:57] <cfh_dev> sunshine82: which one?  alsa or oss?
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: So do you use different languages on different computers, or change the whole thing back and forth?
[01:58] <Jowi> gimmulf: argh! you need multiverse as well. add "multiverse" after the "universe" lines!
[01:58] <sizzam> does this link cause anyone else's firefox to crash?  http://www.big-boys.com/articles/hotgass.html   (its not porn)
[01:58] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: french on a laptop and english on the desktop.
[01:58] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: wife's french :)
[01:58] <transgress> sizzam: mine crashes on any new flash videos... well it doesn't crash.. it hangs...
[01:59] <cfh_dev> sizzam: my firefox doesn't die but I have adblock so it might stop the crashing element
[01:59] <balzac> flash stinks
[01:59] <sunshine82> cfh_dev i neeed to install ALSA OSS emulation laye
[01:59] <sizzam> cfh_dev,   is adblock an extension
[01:59] <balzac> i'd test your link but i don't want to lose my open tabs in firefox
[01:59] <Jowi> gimmulf: i am sooooo sorry i didn't notice the package was in multiverse. sorry sorry sorry
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Ah.
[01:59] <transgress> balzac: flash may stink, but it's kind of needed for a lot of sites
[02:00] <mikal_> I have zlib and readline5 installed via apt-get (it says they are installed and newest version) but I can't seem to compile code that requires them. Any ideas?
[02:00] <gimmulf> np Jowi
[02:00] <balzac> transgress, i'm looking forward to SVG
[02:00] <ubuntu> test
[02:00] <cfh_dev> sizzam: it's a plugin for firefox
[02:00] <allamchz> what'is the spanish channel?
[02:00] <QMario> How do I extract .jar files?
[02:00] <transgress> balzac: svg?
[02:00] <Sanne> mikal_: maybe you also need the *-dev packages?
[02:00] <QMario> #Ubuntu-es.
[02:00] <transgress> and are the breezy backports kicking yet?
[02:00] <balzac> scalable vector graphics
[02:00] <cfh_dev> sunshine82: sorry, I just have alsa.  Not sure if there's an emulation layer involved on my machine.
[02:01] <cfh_dev> transgress: nope
[02:01] <QMario> !Botsnack
[02:01] <Jowi> transgress: nope
[02:01] <ubotu> :)
[02:01] <balzac> as a standard for flash-type content, but non-binary and non-proprietary
[02:01] <transgress> i see
[02:01] <sizzam> cfh_dev:   THANK YOU!!!!    i installed adblock, seems to have fixed my problem
[02:01] <crimsun> sunshine82: it's included and loaded by default. lsmod|grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[02:01] <Severian> I am having problems signing the Ubuntu code of conduct.  I have very little experience with gpg, but it looks good.  Has anyone here done this?
[02:03] <transgress> all i want is a new compilation of firefox that works correctly with the flash plugin... 1.5b does... flock does... but the package i have does not.  so i know it isn't the plugin.
[02:03] <transgress> i've submitted a bug report and all they tell me is it looks like it's the plugin...
[02:03] <transgress> i'm like WTF
[02:03] <cfh_dev> sizzam: np.  I have a pretty cool little script that blocks most problematic things, if you want it
[02:04] <nalioth> sizzam: www.floppymoose.com
[02:04] <mikal_> Is there a reason apt-get keeps saying it cant stat a few reps and I should run apt-get UPDATE, but running that doesn't make the errors go away?
[02:04] <sizzam> cfh_dev, sure, whats the best way to get that to me
[02:05] <Severian> transgress, I thought one of the nice features of Ubuntu was that there was no flash in Firefox.  It makes browsing the web much nicrt.
[02:05] <sizzam> nalioth:  thanks, I'll check that out
[02:05] <transgress> mikal_: is it the breezy backports repo?
[02:05] <cfh_dev> sizzam: I can post it up in another window or email it.  You'll need to put it in a text file and import it
[02:05] <mikal_> trans: yea
[02:05] <sizzam> cfh_dev - email coming at you in pm
[02:05] <transgress> Severian: until you run into a site that requires flash.  so i don't see how that makes it nicer.
[02:05] <nalioth> sizzam: visit that site and see if you still need the thing from cfh_dev
[02:05] <QMario> Okay, thank God!!! :)
[02:05] <transgress> mikal_: those repo's aren't up yet.
[02:05] <QMario> It's installing.
[02:05] <transgress> Severian: no browser comes with flash by default.  hence it being a plugin.
[02:05] <QMario> Java -jar File.jar
[02:05] <nalioth> sizzam: want to block things? join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:05] <QMario> s/J/j
[02:06] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: there is a file that looks interesting: /etc/environment. if that is the file that decides which language is displayed on the system it would be interesting to know if you could place a .environment file in the users home dir...
[02:06] <dooglus> transgress: why not just use firefox 1.50beta2?
[02:07] <Tracy_P> On a fresh intall of Ubuntu 5.10, I am getting an error, after clicking ok it seems to be on the aspell package the the error occured.
[02:07] <transgress> dooglus: becaise there isn't a package for it.  and if there isn't... then i have to do a lot of crap to get it to recognize things like mozilla-mplayer and such.
[02:07] <Severian> transgress, There are so many sites that use flash for annoyances added to their website.  The flash content is almost never anything I want to see.  There may be some site someday I want to browse that needs flash.  But, I have not found it.
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Intriguing.  I have nothing to lose really, let's see what happens.
[02:07] <dooglus> transgress: oh, right.  I don't bother with mplayer plugin.
[02:07] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: ah, found it: http://publib16.boulder.ibm.com/pseries/en_US/files/aixfiles/environment.htm
[02:07] <Denden> Hi, are there french ?
[02:08] <transgress> Severian: well there are plenty i go to... including band sites and others
[02:08] <cyphase> why doesn't the Art Manager that comes with breezy have support for art.ubuntu.com?
[02:08] <transgress> Severian: or movie websites... or websites i stumble...
[02:08] <cyphase> it just seems kind of strange
[02:08] <Severian> transgress, Novell Linux installs Flash by default.  When you start a browser, it has flash.  That is a bad thing.
[02:09] <transgress> Severian: then remove it.  you realize you can do that right?  it continues to be a plugin...
[02:09] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: all settings can be set in /home/user/.profile including LANG it seems
[02:09] <qmanman> anyone have a web host that they really like?
[02:09] <sunshine82> crimsun i need alsa oss layer
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Looks good!  Nice find.
[02:10] <Severian> transgress, yes.  The bad thing about Novell is that you had to agree to Macromedias obnoxious terms before you could install the os.  That is the really bad part.
[02:10] <sunshine82> crimsun alsa and oss is usuall set at default
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Now, to test it.
[02:10] <cyphase> qmanman, yes
[02:10] <transgress> Severian: or do an advanced install and choose all the packages you want...
[02:10] <qmanman> cyphase: well spill it =p
[02:10] <cyphase> Cyphase Hosting
[02:10] <cyphase> ;)
[02:11] <dooglus> Jowi: you realise that your .profile doesn't get run unless you log in (like on a virtual console for instance) right?
[02:11] <qmanman> damn it that company sucks
[02:11] <Severian> transgress, that is not an option with Novell Linux.  It is possible with SuSE, but not Novell.
[02:11] <cyphase> :)
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Why would you need it to otherwise?
[02:11] <Jowi> dooglus: does log in via gdm count?
[02:11] <ompaul> how about open suse .. that should not have it in there
[02:11] <cyphase> I get very good service, seeing as I'm 1 of only 2 customers
[02:12] <cyphase> my cousin being the other :)
[02:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: what are you asking?  All I'm saying is if you want set LANG or something, .profile isn't the best place, 'cos it won't affect any GNOME terminals
[02:12] <ompaul> actually the suse converstion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:12] <transgress> Severian: then don't use it... shouldn't be that complex of a thing.  you aren't forced to agree to those terms as you aren't forced to use it.
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Oh.  Then do you know what would?
[02:12] <Severian> ompaul, I installed open suse, but I did not check for flash.  It did not ask me to accept the obnoxious license, so it probably is not there.
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Possibly one of the other files on that page?
[02:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: gnome runs ~/.gnomerc - you can set it there
[02:12] <crimsun> sunshine82: I don't know what you're asking. Ubuntu loads snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss by default. They constitute your OSS emulation layer.
[02:13] <n1k0s_> could anyone see whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/401485
[02:14] <transgress> n1k0s_: bad repo's... edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # next to those repos
[02:14] <imajuchi> hi everyone, can some one please help me, how can i use k3b to burn data dvd as a normal user. i get an error but if i do it as root it burns fine. you ll help is appreciated
[02:15] <n1k0s_> where can i find a working sources.list
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: I don't seem to have that file; should I just create one?
[02:15] <n1k0s_> wait i will paste on the site my resources list
[02:15] <ompaul> n1k0s_, why not edith the existing one - and remove the ones that your apt session is giving out about
[02:16] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: yup
[02:16] <cyphase> i'm working on a GUI for package installation on a new system. Stuff like mp3/avi support, flash, etc
[02:16] <ompaul> n1k0s_, you can do this as transgress suggests by putting a # at the start of the offending lines
[02:16] <cyphase> what kind of packages should i include?
[02:16] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: no i think .profile is enough. edit the .xsession to launch gnome and select "default session" in gdm and .profile should be read. can also set "env LANGUAGE=en_EN:en &"  in .xsession to skip the .profile
[02:16] <cyphase> feel free to ask what i mean by that :)
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> And copy the same format for things as where in /etc/environment with the new language abbreviation.
[02:16] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: what you could do is put this in it: ". ~/.profile".  then put the settings in your .login, and they're be used in both gNOME and virtual consoles then
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> ?
[02:17] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: isn't there a 'gui' way of doing this in gnome?
[02:17] <zeropc> so many people
[02:17] <zeropc> hi!
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: You'd think, but nobody seems to know.
[02:17] <Jowi> dooglus: we have only found a way to change the whole system
[02:18] <Jowi> gnome-language-selector
[02:18] <transgress> hey how can i pull the source for a package and build it again?  isn't it like apt-get -b install package or something?
[02:18] <Jowi> probably 1000 ways of doing this
[02:18] <dooglus> i'm on a (shock!  horror!) windows box at the mo, so I can't check
[02:18] <[snape] > hola alguien de chile
[02:18] <[snape] > o ke hable en espaol
[02:18] <imajuchi> does any here is able to burn data dvd on k3b or gnomebaker that can help me out :)
[02:18] <dooglus> !es
[02:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:18] <carvalho> brasil
[02:18] <transgress> [snape] : #ubuntu-es
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Okay, that all sounds good, but you may need to walk me through that stuff.  (I've only been on Linux for two months so far.)  So this may be a private message situation.
[02:19] <[snape] > gracias
[02:19] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: lol, 2:19am here. 3 glasses of whisky
[02:19] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: you are an optimist!
[02:19] <sunshine82> does anyone know how i can get ALSA OSS emulation laye
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Oh boy, that could get interesting.  8:19pm for me.
[02:20] <Jowi> sunshine82: sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: So what your saying is, just try some stuff, and if it hoses the system, hey, I learn something, right?
[02:20] <Daedric> guys... help me with something... i've used debian.. and so i'm used to apt sometimes... for example... why does apt-cache basilisk returns results in debian, and NOT in ubunto?
[02:20] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: not a real good way to learn ...
[02:20] <transgress> actually is it possible to reinstall a package after building it from source?  because if i try to uninstall firefox first it's gonna be pissed and try to remove a lot of stuff that depends on it
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Do you have a better idea?
[02:21] <nalioth> Daedric: because basilisk is not available in ubuntu?
[02:21] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: yeah, wife's gone to bed and no beer and it's friday. gotta make the best of the situation.
[02:21] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:21] <Daedric> nalioth is it so? :(
[02:22] <crimsun> transgress: rephrase, please
[02:22] <nalioth> !info basilisk
[02:22] <cafuego_> basilisk2 - 68k Macintosh emulator
[02:22] <cafuego_> !info basikisk2
[02:22] <mojo> i have a question about ubuntu on Dell Inspiron 8100 if anyone has any experience with that
[02:22] <zeropc> !info help
[02:22] <Jowi> going to bed gents and ladies
[02:22] <Daedric> !info basilisk2
[02:22] <ubotu> basilisk2: (68k Macintosh emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.9.20030722-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 237 kB, Installed size: 800 kB
[02:22] <cafuego_> Of course, not typo3ijng would help
[02:22] <Jowi> good luck tonyyarusso
[02:22] <Jowi> oh and let me know how it went
[02:22] <imajuchi> nalioth do you know how can i use k3b or gnomebaker as a normal user to burn data dvd
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Thanks, and will do.
[02:23] <nalioth> imajuchi: you should be able to use them just fine as a normal user
[02:23] <cafuego_> imajuchi: Insert a blank dvd. Click teh button, add files, click 'Burn to disc'.
[02:23] <sunshine82> crimsun ur right i already have the two files
[02:23] <imajuchi> i get an error message right away
[02:23] <dooglus> you might have to run k3b as root the first time - that's something I seem to remember.  is it still true?
[02:24] <imajuchi> i mess up like ten dvds already :)
[02:24] <sunshine82> crimsun but im still gettin an error in skype that there something wrong with my sound device it wouldnot letm e call out
[02:24] <sunshine82> or receive calls
[02:24] <crimsun> sunshine82: you need to close all apps accessing /dev/dsp
[02:24] <imajuchi> the same happens with kino, i can not grab any video with out going to sudo first
[02:24] <nalioth> starscalling: hello
[02:24] <cafuego_> imajuchi: If they mess up, try burning them at a lower speed.
[02:25] <imajuchi> i actually do but it complains something about authentication failure
[02:25] <imajuchi> ill tell you right now
[02:26] <cafuego_> sheesh, this nforce3 audio sounds like shite
[02:26] <imajuchi> kbuildsycoca running...
[02:26] <imajuchi> imajuchi@user-0cdfe7t:~$ find: /dev/.static: Permission denied
[02:27] <blackops> hello
[02:27] <blackops> how are things going
[02:28] <starscalling> heh
[02:28] <starscalling> thankyou nalioth
[02:28] <sunshine82> crimsun how do i do that
[02:28] <starscalling> and im sorry to whoever "i" pissed off :/ i have an arsehole rommate !_!
[02:28] <HiddenWolf> I've removed my /dev/hda, so now I need to teach grub to boot from hd(0,0) rather than hd(1,0) - I've updated device.map, ran update-grub and grub-install, but it's still not fixed.
[02:28] <starscalling> Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed.  <<--- could someone please help me with this error?
[02:29] <crimsun> sunshine82: lsof /dev/dsp*
[02:29] <sizzam> i need advice on getting quicktime .mov  to play in totem-xine
[02:31] <blackops> tell me if i am wrong, you need the w32codecs to get .mov files to work
[02:31] <cafuego_> starscalling: if the software crashes with that error, just give up. if it keeps running, ignore the error.
[02:31] <g|patrick> hi
[02:31] <cafuego_> blackops: You're wrong.
[02:31] <g|patrick> someone using kopete in here?
[02:31] <blackops> thank you
[02:31] <blackops> hehe
[02:31] <nalioth> blackops: libquicktime1
[02:32] <starscalling> cafuego it keeps running.. but i was wondering what sorts of things could cause that.. or fix it?
[02:32] <blackops> thankyou
[02:32] <cafuego_> g|patrick: More chance in #kubuntu
[02:32] <starscalling> is there a way to update gdk or something?
[02:32] <cafuego_> starscalling: Bad coding, just ignore it.
[02:32] <starscalling> o ok thanx ^^
[02:32] <cafuego_> starscalling: Think of it as debug info, rather than a real error.
[02:32] <starscalling> o.o sweet.
[02:33] <starscalling> perhaps i can make xchat filter it out :P
[02:33] <Aven> yo peeps
[02:33] <starscalling> thats my only current problem with ubuntu btw
[02:33] <starscalling> which makes it totale good :)
[02:33] <Aven> what plugin do I need to get stream video working?
[02:34] <g|patrick> cafuego: no
[02:34] <g|patrick> i am there
[02:34] <g|patrick> they only advised me to follow the faqs
[02:34] <foampeace> the wine doesnt work with winetools
[02:34] <transgress> woo... firefox takes what... 3 hours to build from source?  heh
[02:34] <Aven> foampeace: not everything does
[02:34] <g|patrick> but these faqs/docs are useless
[02:34] <g|patrick> the dont explain how to install themes
[02:34] <g|patrick> :(
[02:34] <Aven> I'm using mirc with wine and it'sr reeeeally buggy
[02:35] <transgress> so in about 3 hours... i'll have me a nice debian package of my own to try to see if it is b0rked as well...
[02:35] <Aven> guys..
[02:35] <nalioth> g|patrick: did you visit the kopete website and peruse their faqs?
[02:35] <Aven> what do I need to get stream video working?
[02:35] <Aven> I just need a name and to use apt-get
[02:35] <foampeace> wine seems to have sucked since it was conceived
[02:35] <g|patrick> nalioth: both
[02:35] <nalioth> Aven: depends on the stream
[02:36] <g|patrick> docs.kde.org and kopete.kde.org
[02:36] <nalioth> g|patrick: have you asked the almighty google?
[02:36] <Aven> well, just name me any good stream ;p
[02:36] <g|patrick> if i'd been a believer i would try that x)
[02:36] <g|patrick> ah
[02:36] <g|patrick> google
[02:36] <g|patrick> no... google outputs complaints about missing direct filetransfer in kopete
[02:38] <Aven> hrm
[02:38] <thunderguy> Hey, My system got struck by lightning earlier today, well the power did, and when I rebooted I had to run e2fsck to check my "/" I had tons of errors, but I noticed Gnome will not start up now after that hit, any ideas?
[02:39] <sunshine82> crimsun it said dev/dsp is spkpe and dev/dsp2 is skype too
[02:39] <blackops> has anyone tryed joining ubuntu to a windows 2000 active directory domain
[02:39] <crimsun> sunshine82: shouldn't be anything wrong then
[02:40] <Tracy_P> ubuntu 5.10 won't complete the install, how can I get more information about why?
[02:40] <reiki> thunderguy: lightning strikes do REALLY weird stuff. My advice would be to get whatever you can from the drive as far as urgent data files and then do a complete reinstall. You could be tracking down little problems for a VERY long time and STILL have a bunch of weirdness
[02:41] <thunderguy> k.
[02:42] <reiki> thunderguy: also keep a VERY close watch on the machine. If all you got out of this is some whacked files I'd be real surprised. Did you have a UPS on there or just a surge suppressor?
[02:42] <sunshine82> crimsun when i try to call my friends it doesnt work it say sound device error and take me to theis page http://www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html
[02:43] <thunderguy> reiki: a UPS
[02:44] <thunderguy> reiki: See the funny thing is, the UPS ran out of power before I got to it.
[02:44] <reiki> thunderguy: if it's an APC or similar quality they usually have insurance against lightning if your equipment got borked, HOWEVER all bets are off if you have unprotected entry into the hardware like through the network jack
[02:45] <thunderguy> reiki: well really I think the lightning just struck a pole nearby, its when I turned it back on it had e2fsck errors, and whatever job gnome was doing, it couldn't save to, and it messed the whole gnome up.
[02:45] <reiki> thunderguy: doesn't matter if the battery went down. I've seen APC UPS units take a hard hit that actually melted the "front" half of the UPS. Send it to APC and they REPLACED the UPS free of charge. And it did its job
[02:46] <bur[n] er> evening all
[02:46] <blackops> evening
[02:47] <reiki> thunderguy: I've had lightning hit a tree next door... almost 200 feet away... and it STILL fried a dimmer switch in my dining room. Has to be a heck of a corona around a lightning bolt :)
[02:47] <herrpoonstrikes> hi, how do i find out a list of all current proceses?
[02:47] <wfry> the only res in xorg.conf is 1280x768 (native of my screen) but the only option in screen resolution is 1024x768
[02:47] <thunderguy> heh.
[02:47] <thunderguy> Well I mean the computer works, I'm in irssi right now, I just don't have a desktop.
[02:47] <bur[n] er> herrpoonstrikes: gnome-system-monitor
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> thanks :)
[02:48] <thunderguy> I also just installed gnome, today.
[02:48] <reiki> thunderguy: if you were without power AND the UPS battery went dead, it's *possible* that it just died while writing files and screwed stuff up .... you COULD come out clean with either a lot of work or a reinstall
[02:48] <bur[n] er> np
[02:48] <thunderguy> not gnome.. Ubuntu, I installed the whole thing today
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> also one more question :P
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> where do i find out my bash histroy?
[02:48] <bur[n] er> ~/.bash_history
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> arff
[02:48] <herrpoonstrikes> thanks
[02:49] <bur[n] er> np
[02:49] <reiki> thunderguy and you had a gnome desktop before the lightning incident?
[02:49] <thunderguy> Yep, it was running.
[02:49] <bur[n] er> try just rebooting again?
[02:49] <thunderguy> well I haven't tried rebooting again heh.
[02:50] <reiki> thunderguy : hmmm... maybe you can just sudo apt-get gnome-desktop. Someone else will have to speak up if that will just reinstall and/or fix broken files
[02:50] <KinkoBlast> Hi, i'm looking for an easyish language to replace qbasic. Any recomendations?
[02:50] <reiki> thunderguy oops... that'd be sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[02:51] <thunderguy> yeah, I'm going to my sources.list now to replace it with the CD.
[02:52] <KinkoBlast> Hi, i'm looking for an easyish language to replace qbasic. Any recomendations?
[02:52] <cevizoglu> ruby
[02:52] <cevizoglu> or python
[02:53] <thunderguy> What type of filesystem is a Cd?
[02:53] <KinkoBlast> cevizoglu: Refferences?
[02:53] <herrpoonstrikes> sorry im full of question tonight!  whats the best way to clear the bash histroy?
[02:53] <thunderguy> I was trying -t cdfs =/
[02:53] <cevizoglu> KinkoBlast, google
[02:53] <KinkoBlast> thunderguy: ISO something or other
[02:53] <reiki> thunderguy: iso9660?
[02:53] <cevizoglu> KinkoBlast, it has the most current refs  ;)
[02:54] <xulMunkee> hurrah for ubuntu!
[02:54] <B_166-ER-X> i am about to reformat, but what should i backup if i dont want to lose my UT2004 game ?
[02:54] <KinkoBlast> um
[02:54] <cevizoglu> B_166-ER-X, huh?  are you running UT2004 native?
[02:55] <reiki> thunderguy :  /dev/cdrom  /cd  iso9660  ro,user,noauto,unhide
[02:55] <reiki> that's from fstab but you get the idea
[02:55] <KinkoBlast> Might as well change your name to K2-L
[02:56] <B_166-ER-X> cevizoglu ? native ?  you mean installed on my linux partition ? yes.
[02:56] <thunderguy> Great, apparently my dvd-rw does not exist.
[02:57] <KinkoBlast> B_166-ER-X: Are you using "wine"?
[02:57] <cevizoglu> B_166-ER-X, native as in doesn't need emulation
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> KinkoBlast,  no : there IS a linuxinstall.sh on the UT2004 cd's ...
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> i have it under linux.
[02:57] <KinkoBlast> b_16-ER-X EXUSE ME THEN! I was just asking! I don't have UT 2004!
[02:58] <thunderguy> Yeah, it didn't automount the cd, or mount it when I asked because it doesn't recognize it as a device currently.
[02:58] <thunderguy> uh-oh, My power is taking a hit again.
[02:58] <B_166-ER-X> thunderguy http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17607
[02:58] <thunderguy> Hey I'd go there, but I don't have a text browser.
[02:59] <thunderguy> maybe I'll try xstart mozilla firefox
[02:59] <TiMiDo> thunderguy do sudo apt-get install lynx or links
[02:59] <KinkoBlast> isn't lynx preinstalled?
[02:59] <TiMiDo> Not really Kingbahamut
[02:59] <thunderguy> Nope, its on the cd but I can't mount the cd.
[02:59] <gimmulf>  [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (0). You must fix this to proceed.   --- How do i fix that?
[02:59] <gimmulf> how do i give it my usr right
[02:59] <TiMiDo> gimmulf man chmod
[02:59] <gimmulf> chmod 777 ?
[03:00] <TiMiDo> that's to give access to everyone gimmulf
[03:00] <gimmulf> true :)
[03:00] <KinkoBlast> apt-get is smare enough to get it from the net
[03:00] <KinkoBlast> I think
[03:00] <TiMiDo> damn i want to go out,
[03:00] <TiMiDo> my dad doesn't want to lend me the freaking Car
[03:00] <gimmulf> TiMiDo:  dont understand that man :) cant you say thoose 3 numbers?
[03:01] <TiMiDo> gimmulfm man chmod is easy
[03:01] <cevizoglu> gimmulf, chmod 775 is more normal
[03:01] <thunderguy> Yeah I started xinit mozilla-firefox and got to the page.
[03:01] <gimmulf> thanks
[03:01] <cevizoglu> normal as in commonly used
[03:01] <thunderguy> It's just gnome acting up, the Xserver still works and loads programs.
[03:01] <KinkoBlast> gimmulf: Do you meen chown or chmod?
[03:01] <gimmulf> ahhh true it must be chown
[03:02] <gimmulf> when its user right
[03:02] <gimmulf> s
[03:02] <gimmulf> then i know
[03:02] <gimmulf> thanks
[03:04] <KinkoBlast> Gah
[03:05] <KinkoBlast> Can I set it up so I can use the button on my CD ROM drive to eject the disk?
[03:05] <rixth> Under Totem's preferences, there are TV-Out options, what package do I need to enable 'TV-Out in fullscreen by Nvidia (PAL)"?
[03:05] <KinkoBlast> Hi
[03:05] <rixth> KinkoBlast, I have th same problem. You know you can use 'sudo eject' though?
[03:06] <KinkoBlast> rixth: Yeh, but I'm used to using the button.
[03:06] <Kream> !info avidemux
[03:07] <Kream> is there a way I can search if a particular package exists in Ubuntu universe ? I'm not using ubuntu right now
[03:07] <jalex> Where i find the driver for WIRELESS device?
[03:07] <crimsun> Kream: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:07] <jalex> please HELp-me
[03:07] <crimsun> jalex: what sort of wireless device?
[03:07] <rixth> 'Compiling Totem with libnvtvsimple installed should make the options
[03:07] <rixth> available' good to know.
[03:08] <pupil> jalex, I need to know that as well,. propbably from the manufacturer?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> KinkoBlast: check that you have the package "eject" installed
[03:09] <jalex> i use the SAMSUNG Wlan MiniPCI/PCI card
[03:09] <thunderguy> dang, I reinstalled every single gnome component from the cd.
[03:09] <thunderguy> and it still doesn't work.
[03:09] <Aven> help me!
[03:09] <jalex> where i find this
[03:09] <aeon17x> Uh, is there a command that lets you list all of the installed packages you have? Something that can be copy pasted to a text file.
[03:09] <Aven> What do I need to install to make video stream work?
[03:10] <jason0_> Installed breezy on a ibm thinkpad t22, everything seems to work but the NIC. It appears to be recognized (eth0, etc) but DHCP fails. The connection works fine with my desktop. Could this be an IPV6 issue?
[03:10] <jalex> crimsun
[03:10] <jalex> pupil
[03:10] <jalex> i dont use apt-get, where i find the mp3 plugins crimsun
[03:10] <crimsun> jalex: look at lspci -v output for Ethernet controller or Network controller
[03:10] <crimsun> jalex: gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe
[03:11] <sector10> !mp3
[03:11] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[03:11] <jalex> crimsun gstreamer0.8-mad where i find this!
[03:11] <aeon17x> !synaptic
[03:11] <ubotu> hmm... synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:11] <jalex> !wireless
[03:11] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:11] <Severian> jason0_, I had a similar problem with Hoary on two Thinkpads, an A20M and a T21.  I just put pcmcia nics in both.  I may try the T21 tonight with Breezy.
[03:12] <xulin> hi!
[03:12] <xulin> i have a problme ..
[03:12] <crimsun> jason0_: err, I accidentally addressed the lspci comment to jalex
[03:12] <xulin> keybord don't work .. on my imac :s .. with breezy
[03:13] <jason0_> Severian: I don't have wireless, I guess this is an excuse to go pickup some hardware
[03:14] <krista29> hey all!
[03:14] <crimsun> jason0_: look in lspci -v output for Ethernet controller or Network controller
[03:14] <erisco> yes! upgraded to 5.10!
[03:14] <krista29> how are u all today?
[03:15] <erisco> i love the new background, it alone was worth the trouble
[03:15] <erisco> where is the "guide" to 5.10?
[03:15] <Severian> Might be.  Did you say this was a wireless nic?  The mini-pci nic on my ThinkPads were wired, not wireless.
[03:15] <gimmulf> isnt it dpkg install <package>.deb   ?
[03:15] <jason0_> crimsun: Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  (rev 0c)
[03:15] <gimmulf> or did i miss something :)
[03:15] <jason0_> It seems to detect it okay
[03:15] <jason0_> Its wired.
[03:16] <crimsun> jason0_: yeah, eepro100?
[03:16] <gimmulf> isnt it dpkg install <package>.deb   <--- is this command correct or did i miss something?
[03:16] <Bicchi> anyone using yamipod to handle music on the ipod?
[03:17] <erisco> isn't there a guide to 5.10 like tehre was for 5.04?
[03:17] <jason0_> crimsun: just did a modprobe eepro100
[03:17] <crimsun> jason0_: if it was already detected, you probably didn't need to load any other driver
[03:17] <gimmulf> Cant anyone help me with that dpkg command ? :)
[03:17] <KinkoBlast> Hmm. Does anyone know if the origional Unreal has a Linux engine? I need SOMETHING to blow the crap out of on here :-)
[03:17] <jason0_> Hm..
[03:17] <Severian> jason0_, That is normally a good nic, that is well supported.  But the mini-pci one in ThinkPads are problematic.  At the time I first st mine up, I did some research and a lot of people had similar problems.  Some could get around it by adding a kernael boot parameter of NOAPIC.  That fix worked intermittently for me.
[03:18] <jason0_> hm.. I could try that
[03:18] <crimsun> jason0_: there are actually two drivers that you can choose from, eepro100 and e100
[03:18] <Severian> gimmulf, what do you want to do?   Install a package with  dpkg -i package.deb
[03:18] <steigweis> what ubuntu do you recommend for a very slow old ibm thinkpad 600E notebook? i want to have fluxbox or sth. as wm
[03:18] <Tracy_P> is 1gig big enough for ubuntu 5.10 to install into?
[03:19] <jason0_> Any cards taht work out of the box?
[03:19] <gimmulf> Severian: Thanks!
[03:19] <jason0_> sorry, that is wifi
[03:19] <harms2> isnt there some miniubuntu?
[03:19] <Severian> 600E slow, surely you jest.  Most of my work is on a Thinkpad 570
[03:19] <steigweis> harms2: :)
[03:20] <crimsun> Tracy_P: you need ~2 GB
[03:20] <steigweis> ehhzthere is ubuntulite, but its crap
[03:20] <harms2> im pretty new to linux tho, started learning it days ago
[03:20] <crimsun> steigweis: xubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <Tracy_P> thanks
[03:20] <crimsun> steigweis: (Xfce)
[03:20] <steigweis> Severian: did you install ubuntu with gnome?
[03:20] <Severian> steigweis, yup
[03:20] <steigweis> crimsun: is xfce faster than fluxbox?
[03:20] <KinkoBlast> I've heard that ther eis a Linux engine for DooM. Is this true?
[03:20] <hyperactivecrond> steigweis: how can you not 8:)
[03:20] <harms2> how do i logout of X
[03:20] <hyperactivecrond> KinkoBlast: prboom
[03:21] <thoreauputic> steigweis: no
[03:21] <harms2> i need to install some drivers it seems
[03:21] <hyperactivecrond> harms2: which wm
[03:21] <crimsun> steigweis: Xfce is an environment, much lighter weight than GNOME. fluxbox is only a window manager.
[03:21] <Severian> steigweis.  I have 6 of the 570s.  Two have plain old Ubuntu with Gnome.
[03:21] <hyperactivecrond> !tell steigweis about xfce
[03:21] <crimsun> steigweis: (you'd have to compare Xfce's xfwm4 to fluxbox for it to be a fair comparison)
[03:21] <aeon17x> is there a command that lets you list all of your installed packages and dump it to a text file?
[03:21] <crimsun> aeon17x: dpkg -l
[03:22] <aeon17x> oh, thanks
[03:22] <KinkoBlast> !tell kinkoblast about xfce
[03:22] <hyperactivecrond> dpkg -l > baz
[03:22] <crimsun> aeon17x: Synaptic can also store the package status
[03:22] <judax> #ubuntu-doc
[03:23] <rixth> When I try and compile totem, I get "checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables"
[03:23] <rixth> Any ideas?
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> !build-essential
[03:23] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> rixth: apt-get install build-essential
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> !tell rixth about gcc
[03:23] <durt> why are you compiling totem
[03:23] <erisco> what is the link to the ubuntu 5.10 starter guide? i cannot find a link anywhere. i even googled it.
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> !wiki
[03:24] <Severian> rixth, what directory are you in when you do this.  Is it one where you have write permissions?
[03:24] <harms2> press the help button :p
[03:24] <hyperactivecrond> erisco: chek the wiki <https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <rixth> hyperactivecrond, I've already got GCC & G++. durt I am compiling it because I am builidng libnvtv into it so I can get TV out.
[03:24] <j-linux> Is it possible to put OO 2 on the same computer that runs OO 1 ?
[03:24] <aeon17x> erisco: it's also in the Ubuntu help files installed in your box.
[03:24] <hyperactivecrond> you _need_ build-essential
[03:24] <thoreauputic> erisco: in the topic - see help.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <KinkoBlast> j-linux: Should be.....
[03:24] <hyperactivecrond> !compile
[03:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, compile is tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[03:25] <j-linux> Is OOo 2 going to be put in the repositories soon?
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> j-linux: openoffice2 beta is in now
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> for breezy
[03:25] <erisco> i found it, thanks hyperactivecrond
[03:25] <linuxpoet> OpenOffice 2.0 is out in gold
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> np erisco
[03:25] <KinkoBlast> Hyperactive: It JUST came out of RC actualy
[03:25] <j-linux> hyperactivecrond: it's not beta anymore.  I think it is out now.
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> KinkoBlast: heh.
[03:25] <erisco> i like the 5.04 starter guide layout much better...
[03:25] <KinkoBlast> Hyperactive: It's just not in the repos yet.
[03:25] <erisco> oh well
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> MK all
[03:25] <aeon17x> j-linux: the Ubuntu folks have to confirm it doesn't break anything of course, so wait a while.
[03:26] <harms2> well can any1 explain to me how i can log out of X?
[03:26] <j-linux> Has anyone here upgraded hoary to breezy, and were there any complications with your experience?  (breezy contains OOo2?)
[03:27] <dazvid> j-linux, yes Breezy has 00o2
[03:27] <N45800> I updated to breezy with no problems
[03:27] <KinkoBlast> god, I keep using the wrong keyboard
[03:28] <harms2> can anyone tell me how i can log out of X? im getting sick of 60Hz refreshrate :/
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> harms2: ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:28] <harms2> need to install nvidia drivers
[03:28] <j-linux> Sorry, one more question:  Some of my programs take 5 minutes to start -- literally.  Evolution, GIMP, Galeon and a few others.  Anyone have any ideas why it might be, or how I can figure out what is wrong?
[03:28] <harms2> tnx
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> !nvidia-glx
[03:28] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:28] <steigweis> what if i prefer fluxbox as wm? should i also take Xubuntu or ubuntu with gnome ?
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> !nvidia
[03:28] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:28] <j-linux> I'm using XFCE
[03:28] <Hobbsee> j-linux: done it twice, worked once, screwed up once - far safer to install off a cd if you can
[03:28] <B_166-ER-X> what is the format of partition i should put ? exactly reimesf ? something like that ..
[03:28] <KinkoBlast> Pablo_C: Wouldn't work. One needs a PS2 keyboard (this one) and my mac doesn't even have a PS2 port.
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> B_166-ER-X: depends
[03:29] <Pablo_C> oh
[03:29] <Pablo_C> ;)
[03:29] <KinkoBlast>  /me kills Pablo_C
[03:29] <B_166-ER-X> hyperactivecrond what are the choices ?
[03:29] <Pablo_C> what mac is it?
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> B_166-ER-X: do a reiserfs filesystem (IMHO guys) it's fast and stable
[03:29] <hyperactivecrond> !disk layout
[03:29] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: What?
[03:29] <Pablo_C> if it is a g5 your are forgiven
[03:30] <KinkoBlast> Pablo_C: An older iMac running OS X 10.3.9
[03:30] <j-linux> Hobbsee: do you mean to install from CD from scratch (clean install?)
[03:30] <Pablo_C> :\
[03:30] <Pablo_C> whats the processor speed?
[03:30] <KinkoBlast> Pablo_C: I dunno.
[03:30] <Pablo_C> is it pink?
[03:30] <N45800> kinkoblast: G4 or G5?
[03:30] <Pablo_C> its a g3 prolly
[03:30] <N45800> kinkoblast: or g3?
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> eergh you need g4's iirc
[03:31] <B_166-ER-X> thankx
[03:31] <Hobbsee> j-linux: yeah, hoping you have a separate /home partition.  if not, create one during the install
[03:31] <N45800> kinkoblast: go to apple menu, about this mac, it tell you there
[03:31] <xulin> nanuit
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> look on the main <a HREF=www.ubuntu.com>Page</a<
[03:31] <hyperactivecrond> and I know that you can't use html in irc guys
[03:31] <j-linux> Hobbsee: no separate /home partition unfortunately
[03:31] <KinkoBlast> 400 mhz PPC G3
[03:31] <lsald> wow, nice to see another ppc user
[03:31] <erisco> okay even on 5.10 the updates are complaining about my signature key!
[03:32] <KinkoBlast> And it's staying with OS X, TYVM.
[03:32] <erisco> stupid backports...
[03:32] <Hobbsee> j-linux: burn the contents of /home, including hidden files, to a cd or something, and then you can copy them back after you create /home on a separate partition during the install
[03:32] <hyperactivecrond> Kinkoblast: www.ubuntu.com
[03:32] <Hobbsee> !tell erisco about gpgerr
[03:32] <N45800> does anyone know how to set up MIDI support using a SB Live 24 bit?
[03:32] <lsald> KinkoBlast, blow OS X away, live a little
[03:32] <hyperactivecrond> and tell me what it says on the front page about ubuntu and ppc
[03:32] <Pablo_C> you running ubuntu on this mac?
[03:33] <KinkoBlast> hyperactivecrond: I like OS X, TYVM. Ubuntu is happy on my old Windows box.
[03:33] <lsald> as debian says , a niche within a niche
[03:33] <lsald> ppc linux
[03:33] <hyperactivecrond> ah
[03:34] <KinkoBlast> hyperactivecrond: If it makes you feel better, I use ssh -X to use stuff on this box alot :-)
[03:34] <lsald> KinkoBlast, I always used -Y
[03:35] <KinkoBlast> lsad: its -X on mine. -Y on Cygwin, and I dunno everywhere else
[03:35] <robotgeek> is it not busy in here, or am i lagging :)
[03:35] <KinkoBlast> Want the manpage? I'll dump it for you if you want proof that its -X
[03:35] <Maikeru> isn't -X pretty slow?
[03:35] <lsald> KinkoBlast, os x says to use -Y
[03:36] <hyperactivecrond> kinko :)
[03:36] <Maikeru> I mean, I guess over LAN it's not, but man
[03:36] <Maikeru> from my server to desktop it is
[03:36] <Maikeru> ;)
[03:36] <KinkoBlast> Which version of OS X?
[03:37] <KinkoBlast> I'm on 10.3.9
[03:37] <lsald> KinkoBlast, psh, any mac person knows we only run the latest and greatest, 10.4
[03:37] <lsald> ;)
[03:38] <KinkoBlast> lsad: I doubt 10.4 would WORK on this computer
[03:38] <hyperactivecrond> ubuntu-offtopic guys bc we have too much noise here...
[03:38] <icemilo> errmm.. is anyone here..?
[03:38] <hyperactivecrond> no icemilo :) we're all invisible
[03:38] <kingright> i need a good movie player
[03:38] <kingright> for like avi
[03:39] <icemilo> hyperactivecrond: ermm.. my gaim wont connect to msn.. yesterday night, i was able to connect for only once.. and it cannot connect after that..
[03:39] <robotgeek> kingright: vlc or totem-xine
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> lsad: It's a 400 mhz g3. But whatever. We are off topic (even if we are talking about how to ssh into ubuntu with x11 fowarding!)
[03:39] <hyperactivecrond> kingright: totem
[03:39] <lsald> kingright, I have found VLC to work quite nicely
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> V-L-C! V-L-C!
[03:39] <kingright> i cant get vlc to install right
[03:39] <icemilo> any solutions..? -0-a
[03:39] <hyperactivecrond> icemilo: m$n is allergic to gaim :) no seriously i dont know
[03:39] <KinkoBlast> sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:40] <robotgeek> kingright: can u elaborate?
[03:40] <lsald> kingright,  sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:40] <icemilo> hmm.. =_=
[03:40] <Maikeru> neone know of a KDE app
[03:40] <Maikeru> that loads fast
[03:40] <KinkoBlast> or via synaptic
[03:40] <Maikeru> I wanna test something
[03:40] <kingright> sudo apt-get install vlcE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:40] <kingright> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:40] <icemilo> any good mp3 player in ubuntu?
[03:40] <KinkoBlast> Maikeru: Isn't that an oxymoron? But kturtle is fairly quick to start on my GNOME desktop
[03:41] <Parisi> kingright Likely
[03:41] <Maikeru> mmk
[03:41] <KinkoBlast> !tell icemilo about mp3
[03:41] <kingright> thats what i get
[03:41] <robotgeek> kingright: get the process id by doing lsof /var/lib/dpkg , and kill it
[03:41] <Parisi> kingright find what process is using it and kill it
[03:41] <TiMiDo> mpg123 is cool to play mp3
[03:41] <nalioth> kingright: close all your apt-gets or synaptics
[03:41] <Parisi> Ah man, its good to be back on broadband
[03:41] <nalioth> kingright: you can use only one at a time
[03:42] <KinkoBlast> Prboom is installed. Now where is that CD of iwads.....
[03:42] <kingright> now i get
[03:42] <icemilo> KinkoBlast: This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[03:42] <kingright> Reading package lists... Done
[03:42] <kingright> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:42] <kingright> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[03:42] <Parisi> a dvd iso under 1:30 is sweeeet :)
[03:42] <robotgeek> kingright: you have to enable the universe repository
[03:42] <lsald> kingright, uncomment universial in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:43] <kingright> i did
[03:43] <robotgeek> kingright: did you apt-get upgrade afterwards?
[03:43] <lsald> kingright, sudo apt-get update
[03:43] <dazvid> did you apt-get update
[03:43] <robotgeek> kingright: err. update
[03:43] <kingright> # deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[03:43] <kingright> # deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[03:43] <kingright> c
[03:44] <kingright> same thing
[03:44] <robotgeek> kingright: do not install debian packages unless u really need to
[03:44] <icemilo> hmm..
[03:44] <lsald> kingright, not the same, comment those out and use the universal repos.
[03:44] <nalioth> kingright: what is that you are pasting? vlc is available from ubuntu repos
[03:44] <KinkoBlast> # is a vomment
[03:44] <gimmulf> Doesnt Mplayer work on ubuntu?
[03:45] <ZinnKilla> Hi
[03:45] <Maikeru> gimmulf, yes
[03:45] <kingright> it is
[03:45] <kingright> how do i get it?
[03:45] <gimmulf> Maikeru:  how? the pavkages doesnt work
[03:45] <steigweis> if i want to have a slim ubuntu with fluxbox, should i choose the breezy ubuntu or Xubuntu? or isnt there a difference then?
[03:45] <rixth> "configure: error: you need the GStreamer or the xine-lib development packages installed" <<< I have libxine-dev though? Any ideas?
[03:45] <Maikeru> dunno: worked for me
[03:45] <ubuntu> hi
[03:45] <Maikeru> but I did mine back in hoary
[03:45] <Maikeru> so I unno
[03:45] <lsald> kingright, you need the original sources.list for ubuntu?
[03:45] <icemilo> hm...
[03:45] <robotgeek> rixth: what are you trying to compile?
[03:46] <icemilo> how to play songs with Amarok?
[03:46] <rixth> robotgeek, totem 1.2.0 using the sources from Gnome
[03:46] <KinkoBlast> Where do I put doom.wad for prboom?
[03:46] <Maikeru> neone in here use synce-?
[03:46] <icemilo> my amarok never worked.. -_-;
[03:46] <kingright> well that is all i put in to it but sure
[03:46] <ZinnKilla> Does anyone know how to get the the folder where Ubuntu's Boot image is?
[03:46] <robotgeek> rixth: get all dependencies by doing apt-get build-dep totem
[03:47] <robotgeek> rixth: maybe, even totem-xine :)
[03:47] <robotgeek> icemilo: di u try using the xine engine, it's pretty cool
[03:47] <kingright> i wish there was a easy way for me to install this
[03:47] <rixth> robotgeek, The only reason I'm not using the package is because I want TV out :)
[03:47] <icemilo> robotgeek: how to use xine?
[03:47] <KinkoBlast> go to synaptic
[03:47] <kingright> i just need to find some one that is good with linuz
[03:47] <KinkoBlast> enable univers
[03:47] <KinkoBlast> search for vlc
[03:47] <kingright> linux*
[03:47] <icemilo> robotgeek: my Amarok never worked.. with Arts and gstream
[03:48] <rixth> I never knoew about build-dep! Handy!
[03:48] <robotgeek> icemilo: use amarok with the xine ening
[03:48] <robotgeek> icemilo: *engine
[03:48] <kingright> its not there
[03:48] <icemilo> robotgeek: i didnt install xine engine . -_-
[03:48] <lsald> kingright, http://pastebin.com/401556
[03:48] <icemilo> robotgeek: how to install?
[03:48] <lsald> that is the default sources.list with universal
[03:48] <icemilo> apt-get install xine never works
[03:48] <icemilo> -_-a
[03:49] <kingright> ok ty
[03:49] <robotgeek> icemilo: moment
[03:49] <Cody`> where do I get win32 codecs for breezy?
[03:49] <icemilo> robotgeek: k
[03:49] <kingright> do i need the numbers on the side?
[03:49] <lsald> no
[03:49] <kingright> kk
[03:49] <robotgeek> icemilo: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[03:49] <Madpilot> !tell Cody` about w32codecs
[03:49] <kingright> let me load it
[03:49] <erisco> when i removed everything from my lists folder for that signature fix... when is my 10min up?
[03:50] <icemilo> cannot find the package
[03:50] <icemilo> -_-;;
[03:50] <kingright> oh i have 5.04
[03:50] <erisco> it still isn't working... i will wait a bit longer
[03:50] <icemilo> robotgeek: hmm.. cannot find package.. :P
[03:50] <robotgeek> icemilo: you on hoary?
[03:50] <nalioth> erisco: 10min after you issue the command
[03:50] <KinkoBlast> How do I get to what was "d:/" on windows (A second hard drive)
[03:50] <steigweis> if i want to have a slim ubuntu with fluxbox, should i choose the breezy ubuntu or Xubuntu? or isnt there a difference then?
[03:51] <icemilo> robotgeek: nope breezy
[03:51] <kingright> lsald i have hoary
[03:51] <j-linux> Hobsee: sorry, I was out for a bit.  Thanks for that tip about the /home directory.  I will do that.  I also have files elsewhere on Hoary /var/www/websites, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, etc... :S
[03:51] <gimmulf> is there any stable .avi player ?
[03:51] <robotgeek> icemilo: universe repository,
[03:51] <kingright> VLC
[03:52] <Madpilot> gimmulf: Totem + codecs plays avi for me just fine
[03:52] <robotgeek> !tell icemilo about amarok-xine
[03:52] <lsald> kingright, did that work?
[03:52] <icemilo> ..?;;
[03:52] <kingright> i have hoary
[03:52] <icemilo> robotgeek: nothing came.. ;P
[03:52] <lsald> KinkoBlast, more that likely it is hdb
[03:52] <Madpilot> got to actually reboot... back in a bit
[03:52] <robotgeek> icemilo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/amarok-xine
[03:52] <kingright> thats for  breezy
[03:52] <lsald> kingright, all you have to do is replace breezy with hoary
[03:53] <kingright> ok
[03:53] <kingright> brb
[03:53] <robotgeek> !tell icemilo about repos
[03:53] <KinkoBlast> lsald: umm....
[03:53] <KinkoBlast> lsad: Whad does he need to downgrade for?
[03:53] <erisco> lol, we need a #breezy channel... half the chat is asking what version everyone is using...
[03:53] <lsald> KinkoBlast, i am refering to the repos since he is running hoary
[03:53] <gimmulf> Maikeru:  where do i get thoose codecs?
[03:53] <KinkoBlast> lsad: Ah.
[03:54] <rixth> gimmulf, apt-get install totem-xine and get the codecs from weith the mplayer site or the mallirat (sp?) repo
[03:54] <hyperactivecrond> !w32codecs
[03:54] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:54] <Maikeru> ^^
[03:54] <DestroySBC> Hey i got a question
[03:54] <DestroySBC> does Ubuntu Support NTFS Read/Write
[03:54] <rixth> hyperactivecrond, remeber that totem-gstreamer doesn't work with w32codecs though. Or, not very well.
[03:54] <rixth> DestroySBC, not really.
[03:55] <rixth> DestroySBC, read yes
[03:55] <nalioth> DestroySBC: read-only
[03:55] <lsald> DestroySBC, no one does that i know of, not rw
[03:55] <steigweis> if i want to have a slim ubuntu with fluxbox as wm, should i choose the breezy ubuntu or Xubuntu? is breezy ubuntu with flux slower, than the xubuntu install with fluxbox? or is ther no difference?
[03:55] <andres_> hello
[03:55] <nalioth> steigweis: choose server install and add the components you want
[03:55] <dazvid> DestroySBC, yes and no.. its possible to write, but you risk breaking your hd :)
[03:55] <robotgeek> steigweis: not that it's slower
[03:55] <DestroySBC> damn then nvr mind
[03:56] <FR500> hello
[03:56] <FR500> i use some kde apps under gnome, how can i make it's fonts look smaller?
[03:56] <steigweis> thanks
[03:56] <Marelo> can anyone tell me if "emule" (or amule, xmule) is on the ubuntu repository?
[03:56] <icemilo> jeez.. -_-
[03:56] <icemilo> why doesnt my gaim work?
[03:56] <nalioth> Marelo: there are mules here, yes
[03:57] <icemilo> = _=
[03:57] <robotgeek> icemilo: able to install that pkg?
[03:57] <Marelo> nalioth, thanks
[03:57] <icemilo> robotgeek: setting up the universe repos
[03:57] <robotgeek> icemilo: kk
[03:57] <icemilo> thanks alot
[03:57] <icemilo> ^-^
[03:58] <icemilo> is there any other msn client in linux?
[03:58] <Marelo> nalioth, and is there a web-view of the repository, like debian does?
[03:58] <icemilo> instead of amsn
[03:58] <icemilo> -_-;
[03:58] <icemilo> gaim never works ! dang..
[03:58] <Marelo> icemilo, gaim
[03:58] <Marelo> oops
[03:58] <dazvid> icemilo, I use GAIM personally
[03:58] <icemilo> - _-;;
[03:58] <dazvid> It works fine?
[03:58] <Marelo> i always used gaim on linux, also
[03:58] <erisco> gaim is good
[03:59] <icemilo> yesterday, i was able to connect
[03:59] <nalioth> Marelo: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <erisco> since it supports all the good im
[03:59] <icemilo> but .. it never connected since that
[03:59] <icemilo> -_-;
[03:59] <Marelo> there used to be a 'kopete', but i think it's discontinued
[03:59] <icemilo> kopete sucks -_-;
[03:59] <Marelo> nalioth, thanks
[03:59] <robotgeek> i even use gaim in linux
[03:59] <robotgeek> Marelo: nah, kopete still works in kde
[03:59] <erisco> okay i swear it has been more than 10min after i deleted the lsts
[03:59] <erisco> lists*
[04:00] <icemilo> any of u guys have router?
[04:00] <Marelo> robotgeek: still works or still are people working in it? that what i meant
[04:00] <dazvid> Nope
[04:00] <icemilo> cuz i think its my router setting for gaim -_-;
[04:00] <icemilo> hmm..
[04:00] <Marelo> icemilo, i have an alcatel speed touch (adsl modem) that works as a router, and never had problems with gaim
[04:00] <FR500> i use some kde apps under gnome, how can i make it's fonts look smaller?
[04:01] <kingright> i still get
[04:01] <icemilo> Marleo: any port forwarding or DMZ or anything?
[04:01] <kingright> Reading package lists... Done
[04:01] <kingright> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:01] <kingright> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[04:01] <robotgeek> Marelo: i think it's still under development.http://kopete.kde.org/
[04:01] <nalioth> kingright: enable all your repos, it's there
[04:01] <Marelo> icemilo, nope. just installed, and "let's ride"
[04:01] <Marelo> ^^
[04:01] <erisco> this signature fix isn't working and i am getting worried o0
[04:01] <kingright> how?
[04:01] <erisco> now i am just getting piles of errors
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about repos
[04:02] <icemilo> marco: thats odd.. -_-;
[04:02] <kingright> sorry in still new at linux
[04:02] <icemilo> Marelo: thats odd
[04:02] <icemilo> - _-;
[04:02] <nalioth> kingright: enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:02] <robotgeek> FR500: try adjusting it in kcontrol. launch by typing kcontrol & in a terminal
[04:02] <icemilo> robotgeek: downloading xine engine~ yay~
[04:02] <icemilo> = _=;
[04:02] <kingright> ok
[04:02] <Marelo> icemilo... yeap... sorry
[04:02] <kingright> let me see how
[04:03] <icemilo> any of u guys use gcc?
[04:03] <nikuramon> I have in the past
[04:03] <dazvid> icemilo, often yes
[04:03] <kingright> so add what is on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969?
[04:04] <erisco> i logged out a couple times, restarted... are there any other solutions to the signature key problem?
[04:04] <Marelo> hey guys, i'm actually a begginer at linux world, so, i still have many things, espcially my personal files under windows (ntfs)... how can i easily migrate then? or is there a way to tell linux to work with the ntfs?
[04:04] <dooglus> erisco: what's the problem?
[04:04] <FR500> robotgeek, i dont have kcontro
[04:04] <nalioth> kingright: use the pastebin for your version of ubuntu
[04:05] <icemilo> dazvid: how to install the header files
[04:05] <kingright> ?
[04:05] <icemilo> it seems that they dont install header files (?)
[04:05] <kingright> ok
[04:05] <gimmulf> Marelo:  how do i get totem to find thoose new installed codecs?
[04:05] <icemilo> -_-;
[04:05] <kingright> i get
[04:05] <nige> hi all
[04:05] <kingright> the add what it shows right?
[04:05] <nalioth> icemilo: look in synaptic for "linux-headers" to match your kernel
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> !gcc
[04:05] <ubotu> gcc is, like, totally, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[04:05] <CuriousCat> hello everyone!
[04:05] <robotgeek> FR500: apt-get install it, :)
[04:05] <nige> i am having problem with my desktop
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> apt-get install build-essential
[04:05] <nalioth> kingright: make sure your's resembles it, yes
[04:05] <Marelo> gimmulf: dunno sorry. i'm a beginner
[04:06] <hyperactivecrond> if you can't compile
[04:06] <kingright> resambles?
[04:06] <nige> My places and system menus work but my application menu load for a 1 second then disappears ( i can use the menu at all)
[04:06] <Marelo> hey guys, i'm actually a begginer at linux world, so, i still have many things, espcially my personal files under windows (ntfs)... how can i easily migrate then? or is there a way to tell linux to work with the ntfs?
[04:06] <nige> any one know anything about this
[04:06] <gimmulf> rixth: did you know how to get  totem/vlc to find thoose new codecs?
[04:06] <GregAsche> what's the name of that tool that makes .deb files?
[04:06] <icemilo> Marelo: mount -t ntfs ....
[04:07] <nige> greg... alienware :)
[04:07] <nige> I think
[04:07] <Marelo> icemilo: but this way i only have read permissions, right?
[04:07] <robotgeek> GregAsche: many ways, most easy checkinstall
[04:07] <GregAsche> nige: no, the one that takes the source and makes a deb
[04:07] <GregAsche> checkinstall, that's it
[04:07] <nige> ah okay
[04:07] <icemilo> Marelo: u can always put the permisstion setting
[04:07] <kingright> tells me You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:08] <icemilo> Marelo: goto fstab and edit it :P
[04:08] <CuriousCat> Have a problem. I tried to install ndiswrapper. It seemed to install (no errors ) but i still can't get the wifi to work. Though that's not the real problem. The real one is that after installing ndiswrapper, i can no longer connect to our network via my lan cable. (this was working previously)  Any thoughts on how to get eth0 working again?
[04:08] <Marelo> icemilo, i mean, i can modify files in a ntfs partition? delete them... etc... that's what i mean
[04:08] <gimmulf> vlc
[04:08] <icemilo> Marelo: nope, u can only read 'e,
[04:08] <icemilo> 'em
[04:08] <nalioth> CuriousCat: i've found this a problem on my laptop, also. i just turn off the wireless when i'm wired
[04:08] <Marelo> icemilo... sigh... that's what i'm upset of.....
[04:08] <dooglus> Marelo: you should copy the files into your Linux filesystem from NTFS.  You can't write to NTFS safely from Linux
[04:08] <CuriousCat> nalioth: how do you turn it off?
[04:09] <icemilo> Marelo: ops.. sorry ^^;;
[04:09] <nige> ifconfig wlan0 dow
[04:09] <robotgeek> GregAsche: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide
[04:09] <snugglemonkey> anyone running a ubuntu web server with image majik or GD extensions for php and apache2?
[04:09] <nalioth> CuriousCat: in network-admin    (hit alt-f2 and type "gksudo network-admin")
[04:09] <Marelo> dooglus: so, it's just ctrl c / ctrl v?
[04:09] <kingright> oh i know
[04:09] <CuriousCat> nalioth: ah! ok. :) Will try that later
[04:09] <kingright> i need to sudo apt-get update
[04:09] <kingright> yes
[04:09] <_23meg> did you check if your ethernet adapter is the "default gateway" in network settings?
[04:09] <dooglus> Marelo: I would use the command line.  I don't know how good a job nautilus would make of it.
[04:09] <nalioth> kingright: yes
[04:10] <kingright> wow i get it some what
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about apt-gt
[04:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kingright about apt-get
[04:10] <kingright> now i can sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:10] <Marelo> dooglus: the sad thing is that I would have to copy gig's and gig's of files...
[04:10] <dooglus> Marelo: that's ok - it'll take a while, but you can wait, right?
[04:11] <snugglemonkey> anyone have a successful implenmentation of apache, php, php-gd to resize images?
[04:11] <ZinnKilla> Hi
[04:11] <gimmulf> What software should i use for .avi files? i've tried totem and vlc i halv also installed the win32 codecs but dont know if the software finds them
[04:11] <icemilo> robotgeek: it doesnt seem to play with xine engine too.. :P
[04:11] <nige> anyone know how to fix a broken gnome
[04:11] <nige> ?
[04:11] <Marelo> dooglus:  hehehe sure i can wait, i just don't have the FREE SPACE needed hehehehe
[04:11] <_23meg> try installing totem-xine
[04:11] <dooglus> Marelo: aah.  I see.
[04:11] <kingright> now im running apt-get -f install
[04:11] <K-Rich> Can anyone tell me what runlevels ubutu goes through on boot ?
[04:11] <aias_> nige, I used superglue on the one my cat broke
[04:11] <dooglus> Marelo: can you back the files up, then reformat the NTFS partition to ext3 or something, then restore them?
[04:12] <dooglus> K-Rich: 2
[04:12] <aias_> K-Rich, first rcS, then rc2
[04:12] <robotgeek> icemilo: what kind of a machine do you have. I have an old powerbook, and it works wonderfully well on mine :)
[04:12] <ben_2246> are there any linux media players that have a scenet cut editor type feature similar to zoomplayer? here's a link explaining what i mean: http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/scenecut.shtml
[04:12] <dooglus> K-Rich: grep "^id" /etc/inittab
[04:12] <icemilo> robotgeek: i have dell laptop.. which  i bought one month ago
[04:12] <nige> LOL
[04:12] <nige> thanks
[04:12] <nige> :)
[04:13] <gimmulf> _23meg:  totem-xine: Depends: libxine1c2 (>= 1.0.1) but it is not installable
[04:13] <Marelo> dooglus: i think i could... but the thing is that my family (and me too, won't lie) still uses windows, especially my family (users...) so i can just "blow everything"
[04:13] <gimmulf> E: Broken packages
[04:13] <K-Rich> dooglus, is that the only one? i'm trying to clean up the initi scripts and i have S20alsa-utils in rc2.d but it seems to be running the alsa script as well
[04:13] <nige> my startmenu in gnome is broken :(
[04:13] <nige> The applications menu doesnt work
[04:13] <nige> ")
[04:13] <robotgeek> icemilo: what do u mean by not playing?
[04:13] <nalioth> gimmulf: if you use non ubuntu repos, you'll have trouble all the way around
[04:13] <dooglus> K-Rich: level 'S' it run first, yes
[04:13] <Marelo> dooglus: ergo... i wanted a smarter solution... when will linux work fine with ntfs?? :(
[04:14] <icemilo> robotgeek: when i click play, it says 'playing' and it will show 'finished playing'
[04:14] <icemilo> -_-;
[04:14] <syn-ack> Marelo: For read only, yes
[04:14] <ben_2246> i think i may be the only person in the world who uses scene cut editor
[04:14] <Madpilot> has anyone gotten an ATI 9600XT card working w/ full 3d in Breezy? It worked fine in Hoary, I've followed the wiki, and I still can't get it running properly!
[04:14] <K-Rich> dooglus, okay that must be it... i though rcS.d was for single user mode only heh (well at least according to man init)
[04:14] <dooglus> Marelo: rumour has it that "captive NTFS" works well, using the Windows NTFS driver.  But I don't know for sure.
[04:14] <icemilo> robotgeek: the songs are from my ntfs drive..
[04:14] <robotgeek> icemilo: can you copy on to your non-ntfs drive, and try playing from there?
[04:14] <Marelo> dooglus: where can i read more about this captive?
[04:14] <FR500> dooglus, what player?
[04:14] <kingright> oh yes VLC is installing now
[04:14] <kingright> i love you all
[04:14] <dooglus> Marelo: google it
[04:15] <dooglus> FR500: I use mplayer-nogui
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> Marelo, captiventfs.sf.net i think
[04:15] <Marelo> dooglus: hehe sure. great old uncle google
[04:15] <Elsan> Seveas: Are you there?
[04:15] <FR500> dooglus, how are you accessing your ntfs drive? gnome vfs?
[04:15] <Marelo> nomasteryoda|w: thanks, i'll try
[04:15] <icemilo> robotgeek: wait let me try it
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> Marelo, yea he's almost as good as Great Uncle Ebbit
[04:15] <DonL> I install a number of players, and let the app find the one it likes
[04:15] <kingright> ok now the updater  came up
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> just google can't throw red rays of destruction
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[04:16] <FR500> woops ntfs drive, it0s mounted right? so do you have the permissions?
[04:16] <Marelo> nomasteryoda|w: ebbit? dunno that... hehehe what's it?
[04:16] <nalioth> kingright: now all you have to do is pay attention to the red dot, and you'll stay up to date
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> Marelo, read "The 7th Tower" by Garth Nix
[04:16] <dooglus> K-Rich: look at your /etc/inittab - find the line beginning "si" - that shows the level used during system boot
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible for the root user to manually log out other users from the terminal without shutting down?
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> the series
[04:16] <kingright> thanks man
[04:16] <nomasteryoda|w> that is great set of books
[04:16] <kingright> i owe you onw
[04:17] <kingright> one*
[04:17] <nomasteryoda|w> tonyyarusso, yea
[04:17] <Marelo> nomasteryoda|w: ok... i'll try know more about them
[04:17] <dooglus> FR500: I very rarely access my NTFS drive.  When I do, I mount it with "mount /media/c"
[04:17] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: kill the terminal session of the user, maybe?
[04:17] <icemilo> Marelo: errm.. when i copy the songs from ntfs to ext3 i see some "locker"icon on the mp3 file..
[04:17] <gimmulf> nalioth:  im just using ubunto respos
[04:17] <icemilo> oops
[04:17] <kingright> now if u ever need help in windows im your man lol
[04:17] <icemilo> robotgeek: errm.. when i copy the songs from ntfs to ext3 i see some "locker"icon on the mp3 file..
[04:17] <nalioth> gimmulf: well something sounds fishy cuz all the pkgs are meant to work nicely together
[04:17] <FR500> icemilo, you are not the owner of the file
[04:17] <Marelo> icemilo: what do you mean? what happen? what does it causes?
[04:17] <icemilo> hmm.. --
[04:18] <icemilo> i am the owner of the file -_-;
[04:18] <FR500> icemilo, type sudo chown yourusername filename
[04:18] <robotgeek> icemilo: copy as root :)
[04:18] <dooglus> icemilo: that means the file is readonly
[04:18] <icemilo> but i cannot even read. -_-;
[04:18] <dooglus> icemilo: you want to "chmod +w *.mp3" to make the writable
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> nomasteryoda|w: So I'd need to first look up the process id, and then just kill that?  There's not a clean way of accessing the exit/logout function externally?
[04:18] <FR500> icemilo, do as i say
[04:19] <Marelo> is the captive ntfs from Jan Kratochvil?
[04:19] <icemilo> chown?;;
[04:19] <icemilo> root@lemon:/home/icemilo/Desktop# chown icemilo 02\ Yesterday.mp3
[04:19] <FR500> yes change owner
[04:19] <icemilo> but doesnt work - _-
[04:19] <Elsan> I need help, my Rhythmbox won't start, it stops as soon as it starts, I even reformatted and made a bigger swap partition because I thought it was a memory error. Can anyone help? Here is the error I get: GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[04:19] <icemilo> the song is from my ntfs drive..
[04:19] <FR500> why?
[04:20] <johnsie2k> How do I run a .sh file?
[04:20] <FR500> but you had to change in the local file on the ext3 partition
[04:20] <icemilo> i have set the permission level..
[04:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell johnsie2k about cli
[04:20] <icemilo> hmm.  what is the problem .. -_-
[04:21] <kingright> yess
[04:21] <kingright> now how do i get yahoo! ?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda|w> kingright, you mean IM?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda|w> gaim is the program
[04:21] <nalioth> kingright: applications > internet > gaim
[04:21] <Bottle> folks.   ladies and gentlemen.
[04:22] <dooglus> Marelo: yes, that's the one.
[04:22] <Bottle> i can't browse a network with ubuntu,  because  Ubuntu tries to read the Windows shares as  "desktop configuration files"
[04:22] <nomasteryoda|w> Agrajag, ah, beblbrocks
[04:22] <Bottle> i went on a campaign to find the facts of the matter, the solutions,   to insinuate myself into a crowd of people who had experienced and resolved a similar problem
[04:22] <Bottle> ---but i found nothing.
[04:22] <kingright> i know GAIM but i want real yahoo
[04:22] <nalioth> kingright: have fun
[04:22] <johnsie2k> k i dont wanna read a book to do it :-p
[04:23] <Bottle> GAIM is a messaging client.   Yahoo is a search engine.
[04:23] <nalioth> johnsie2k: a little reading on linux will open many doors
[04:23] <Marelo> hey guys, is there a tutorial teaching how to install programs? those ones in .gz etc, not just the easy of apt-get?!? i've got to learn that! for this captive ntfs for example, there's only rpm and tar.gz......
[04:23] <kingright> no yahoo messenger