[13:56] <smartboyhw> Hello SergioMeneses :)
[13:59] <elfy> hello smartboyhw
[13:59] <smartboyhw> Hmm, this is the 1st time elfy directly said a hello to me without me saying hello to him first-.-
[14:00] <elfy> I doubt it
[14:01] <smartboyhw> elfy, I don't doubt it;P
[14:01] <elfy> well I'll not bother again then
[14:01] <smartboyhw> elfy, no no no no no..... (Do bother)


[19:01] <pleia2> http://news.softpedia.com/news/xubuntu-16-04-1-lts-released-upgrade-path-from-xubuntu-14-04-lts-now-open-506582.shtml
[19:01] <pleia2> I should do some scouring of the internets to update http://xubuntu.org/press/ since I know there are a few more around
[19:02] <knome> yes
[19:02] <Unit193> Maybe drc will stop by and help you. >_>
[19:05] <knome> Unit193, on a funny mood? (:
[19:06] <Unit193> knome: He's linked quite a few in the past, actually.
[19:06] <knome> i know
[19:06] <Unit193> He spots a lot more than I do.
[19:06] <knome> maybe you aren't just trying
[19:09] <pleia2> hah
[19:09] <knome> >__<
[19:09] <pleia2> knome: gonna do another round of #LoveXubuntu posts, care to do twitter?
[19:09] <knome> sure
[19:11] <knome> done
[19:12] <pleia2> same
[19:12] <knome> good good
[20:34] <Unit193> Well that's certainly not as nice as upstart user sessions..
[20:39] <flocculant> I'd wonder wth - but I guess I just read it too :p
[20:39] <Unit193> -Exec=startxfce4
[20:39] <Unit193> +Exec=/usr/share/xfce4/scripts/run-systemd-session xubuntu-session.target
[20:43] <ochosi> you read what where?
[20:43] <ochosi> and evening everyone
[20:43] <knome> hello ochosi
[20:43] <ochosi> are systemd user sessions already working in yakkety?
[20:44] <Unit193> ochosi: Email, pitti made commits to x-d-s.
[20:46] <ochosi> where what who?
[20:46] <ochosi> i mean which ml?
[20:46] <knome> who said mailing list?
[20:47] <knome> put your act together simon
[20:47] <Unit193> s/put/get/
[20:47] <knome> shot put.
[20:47] <ochosi> yeah, it's just... hard.
[20:47] <knome> it is?
[20:47] <knome> TMI.
[20:49] <Unit193> I really have been wanting to correct the 'XFCE' spelling though. >_>
[20:50] <ochosi> well to some extent i'm happy he is proactive about these unavoidable changes
[20:50] <knome> yeah
[20:50] <ochosi> on the other hand dropping us a line in advance would have been super-cool
[20:50] <ochosi> but well, can't have everything i guess
[20:54] <Unit193> zequence: Hey, I recommend looking at the last two commits in https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk
[20:55] <ochosi> Unit193: any thoughts on when to have the next team meeting?
[20:56] <Unit193> ochosi: 1. When we have agenda items (which now we do have one.)  2.  :D
[20:58] <knome> maybe the new council-to-be can take care of that
[20:58] <Unit193> ochosi: FWIW, as said in -ot I've been waiting for something so it's not me trying to pull a 3 minute meeting. :P
[20:59] <knome> and also as i said there, i think regular meetings are a good thing even when there isn't anything specific on the agenda
[20:59] <ochosi> Unit193: sure understandable. although if we don't have regular meetings anymore at all the things also don't come up anymore
[20:59] <ochosi> darn, knome typed it a little faster...
[20:59] <knome> always
[21:01] <Unit193> Sooo, in 6 min?  :---D
[21:01] <knome> wfm.
[21:02] <ochosi> sure, why not :>
[21:03] <knome> if flocculant isn't around it's kind of moot though
[21:04] <Unit193> And "dishonest" to everyone else.  I think this week would be good.
[21:04] <ochosi> sure
[21:04] <ochosi> well, it also somehow depends on when the next meeting would be scheduled though
[21:04] <Unit193> I suppose tomorrow would be too quick though.
[21:05] <knome> another point is that if the meetings are regular, then it doesn't matter that much if one of them is scheduled quickly
[21:05] <ochosi> you expect ppl to prepare or reserve the slot in their calendar?
[21:05] <knome> maybe some weirdos like pleia2
[21:06] <ochosi> crazy!
[21:06] <ochosi> wow, worst burndown ever http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-burndown
[21:06] <knome> :]
[21:06] <knome> summer
[21:06] <knome> LTS+1
[21:06] <knome> that happens
[21:06] <ochosi> yeah yeah, i know ;)
[21:06] <knome> and babies
[21:06] <ochosi> i think 14.10 was also a bit like that
[21:06] <knome> :d
[21:06] <ochosi> hah
[21:07] <ochosi> true as well
[21:07] <pleia2> I have a thing at 1900 tomorrow, but otherwise ok ;)
[21:07] <knome> and maybe the others are practicing having them
[21:07] <knome> :X
[21:07] <Unit193> I was going to say 4PM tomorrow.
[21:08] <knome> pleia2, great timing, especially with "a thing"! :P
[21:08]  * pleia2 is very precise
[21:08] <knome> indeed
[21:09] <Unit193> 20:00 was my idea. :P
[21:09] <ochosi> darn it, why didn't they name it "12.04 precise pleia" anyway?? i mean wtf is a pangolin!!
[21:09]  * knome picks "trusty" then
[21:09] <knome> ochosi has to be the xenial one then
[21:10] <ochosi> oneiric ochosi
[21:10] <knome> one-eyed ochosi
[21:11] <ochosi> karmic knome
[21:11] <knome> feisty flocculant
[21:11] <ochosi> utopic Unit193 (that one oddly fits nicely)
[21:11] <ochosi> breezy bluesabre
[21:11]  * ochosi wonders why nobody thought of this game sooner - then again, no games with names..
[21:11] <knome> heh
[21:11] <knome> this game is played quickly
[21:12] <Unit193> The naaaaame game.
[21:12] <ochosi> poor akxwi
[21:12] <Unit193> Awkward akxwi
[21:12] <ochosi> :D
[21:13] <Unit193> So then, Tue Jul 26 20:00:00 UTC 2016
[21:15] <knome> anonymous akxwi
[21:15] <Unit193> 'Unknown Unit193' might fit better. :P
[21:17] <ochosi> hehe
[21:17] <ochosi> one day we will reveal your secret identity!
[21:17] <ochosi> the world will tremble
[21:22] <Unit193> ...At how boring it is. :P
[21:23] <Unit193> ochosi: There.
[21:29] <knome> Unit193, added to calendar.
[21:29] <Unit193> Great.  I was somehow magically logged into the wiki, so got it.
[21:30] <Unit193> dkessel, flocculant, astraljava1, slickymaster: Meeting tomorrow.


[07:06] <RaiN88> hi
[07:06] <RaiN88> everyone
[07:06] <RaiN88> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/513056
[07:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513056 in ubuntu-bots "Won't Restart" [Undecided,Invalid]
[07:07] <rww> RaiN88: What about it?
[07:08] <RaiN88> did you check it?
[07:09] <RaiN88> have you seen what I wrote?
[07:09] <rww> RaiN88: Did you see what tsimpson wrote?
[07:09] <RaiN88> yeah
[07:09] <RaiN88> report it
[07:09] <RaiN88> how can I report
[07:09] <RaiN88> it?
[07:10] <tsimpson> click on the link I posed
[07:10] <RaiN88> then,
[07:10] <RaiN88> whats next?
[07:10] <tsimpson> read the information there
[07:11] <RaiN88> next?
[07:11] <tsimpson> if you read the information, and follow the instructions, you will have filed the bug
[07:11] <vish> RaiN88: it isnt an irc bot bug... you need to file the bug in the right package
[07:12] <RaiN88> okay
[07:20] <RaiN88> Hi everyone, I had thist problem:
[07:20] <RaiN88> When I click restart, then my laptop process to restart and flikering lines appears (Flikering Lines also appears when I Shut Down before it's totally Turn Off.), but when it should be restarted it just stay's there with Blank black screen, ready to reboot but it wont.Then I have to actually hold the power button in to shut it off and boot it again. It is so very annoying. Laptop : Asus X80n, 1GB RAM, 160GB HDD, Nvidia Geforce 700m = 256mb, Ubuntu 9.10
[07:20] <RaiN88>  fully updated. I hope you can able to help me solve this problem. Kind regards, and thanks in advance,
[07:22] <persia> RaiN88: I've not seen that bug before, but suspect it's something related to the X driver or power management.
[07:22] <persia> Have you filed a bug about it?
[07:23] <persia> Ah, I see.
[07:24] <persia> Right.  File a new bug, with `ubuntu-bug`, which should collect some useful information.
[07:26] <vish> RaiN88: you can ask in #ubuntu-x regarding the exact package they would want information from..
[07:29] <vish> RaiN88: just a reminder , folks are from different time zones  , so you might need to be a bit patient there ;)
[07:35]  * RaiN88 Thank you to all of you who answered me :)
[09:28] <BUGabundo_remote> morning
[09:44] <ohsix> what package am ilooking to report against if the backlight controls aren't working, additionally its not enabled on resume
[12:18] <kamusin> hey
[13:33] <RunePhilosof> What has gone wrong when update-manager suggests an upgrade but isn't able to find the deb file on the mirror?
[13:34] <yofel> RunePhilosof: maybe the file was already replaced by a new one, did you refresh the package cache?
[13:34] <RunePhilosof> mirror.uni-c.dk/.../python2.5-minimal_2.5.4-1ubuntu6.1_amd64.deb 404  Not Found
[13:34] <RunePhilosof> yofel, I did refresh
[13:35] <RunePhilosof> and I waited a days worth of time
[13:35] <yofel> RunePhilosof: then maybe something went wrong when the mirror was synced, try another one
[13:39] <RunePhilosof> yofel, ok. It worked for another mirror.
[13:39] <yofel> broken mirror then
[13:40] <RunePhilosof> yofel, So should I report a bug on what or just inform on ubuntu-mirrors
[13:40] <RunePhilosof> I guess the bug would be on ubuntu
[13:40] <yofel> no idea, I don't know anything about how the mirrors work
[13:40] <yofel> maybe somone else can help you
[14:34] <tdn> Lenovo S10 netbook does not wake from suspend. What package should I file this bug under?
[14:35] <nigel_nb> tdn, are you on karmic?
[14:36] <nigel_nb> tdn, and what exactly happens when you resume?
[14:37] <tdn> nigel_nb, yes, 9.10. I tested on both UNR and Ubuntu Desktop.
[14:37] <tdn> nigel_nb, appearently it wakes up, but nothing is shown on the screen.
[14:37] <tdn> Typing or moving mouse does not help.
[14:38] <nigel_nb> did you try if caps lock, num lock responds?
[14:38] <tdn> Will try.
[14:39] <nigel_nb> this is tricky, it can be gnome-power-manager, pm-utils, or the kernal itself
[14:39] <tdn> nigel_nb, exactly. So where to report?
[14:39] <hashbang> hi - I'm just testing Ubuntu LTS (both 8.04.3 and yesterday's 8.04.4) on a Supermicro X8DAL. It doesn't support the Intel 82574L Gbit NICs. Would anyone like me to report that somewhere?
[14:40] <hashbang> (e1000e.ko loads, but doesn't detect the hardware)
[14:40] <tdn> I have loads of UI bugs for both Kubuntu 9.10 and UNR 9.10. Where to report?
[14:41] <nigel_nb> tdn, I'd say file it against kernel and someone will figure out whats wrong and reassign appropriately
[14:41] <tdn> Are there any chance they'll be fixed?
[14:41] <tdn> nigel_nb, ok.
[14:41] <tdn> nigel_nb, caps lock does not work.
[14:41] <tdn> neither num or scroll lock.
[14:42] <nigel_nb> okay, so you're not waking up I guess
[14:42] <nigel_nb> tdn, regarding kubuntu, well if its an application, go to help > report a problem
[14:43] <tdn> nigel_nb, it is both applications and plasmoids and such.
[14:43] <nigel_nb> tdn, if its a problem with KDE, report it directly to KDE, if its an ubuntu repository application that has a problem, report it with ubuntu-bug
[14:44] <nigel_nb> hashbang, sorry, but I donno much about it, if you wait, someone will be able to help you out :)
[14:46] <hashbang> nigel_nb: ok, ta. Shall I just file a bug on launchpad in the meantime?
[14:46] <shankao> I'm experiencing some segfaults with the last gvfs: [ 1586.193748] nautilus[4292]: segfault at 15 ip 07e5b993 sp bfb0d620 error 4 in libgvfscommon.so.0.0.0[7e51000+14000]
[14:47] <nigel_nb> hashbang, I would say, yes, but if its fixed in later releases, I dont think there will be something for hardy unless its extremely critical
[14:47] <shankao> anyone has reported that? I can't find it in launchpad and ubuntu-bug seems to hang as well sending the report
[14:48] <hashbang> nigel_nb: LTS doesn't backport drivers?
[14:48] <nigel_nb> hashbang, oh yeah, it does
[14:52] <hashbang> nigel_nb: cool. CentOS 5.4 supports it, and they're using (a heavily patched) 2.6.18
[14:52] <nigel_nb> hm
[14:55] <yofel> tdn: if you need more help on KDE bugs come to #kubuntu-bugs and ping me
[15:02] <hashbang> nigel_nb: I boo-boo'ed. Can you change the project to Ubuntu 8.04 LTS for me?
[15:02] <hashbang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/513292/
[15:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513292 in ubuntu-translations "Heron LTS 8.04.3 and 20100126's 8.04.4 don't support Intel 82574L NICs" [Undecided,New]
[15:07] <tdn> yofel, ok. Thanks
[15:09] <nigel_nb> yofel, what package does bug 513292 come under?
[15:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513292 in ubuntu-translations "Heron LTS 8.04.3 and 20100126's 8.04.4 don't support Intel 82574L NICs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513292
[15:09] <nigel_nb> I dont seem to be able to remove packages as such
[15:10] <nigel_nb> hggdh, ping
[15:11] <yofel> nigel_nb: mom
[15:11] <yofel> kernel modules would be in linux (Ubuntu)
[15:11] <yofel> I'll change it
[15:12] <nigel_nb> yofel, oops, done
[15:12] <yofel> noticed ^^
[15:12] <nigel_nb> hehe
[15:13] <nigel_nb> i'm losing touch lol, need to get back from 2morrow
[15:14] <yofel> hey, we have a ubuntuone-client hugday tomorrow, thanks kamusin
[15:14] <hashbang> yofel: thanks. Sorry for the boo-boo.
[15:14] <yofel> hashbang: np
[15:15] <kamusin> hey yofel , yep I have sent the announce just a few minutes ago :)
[15:15] <nigel_nb> kamusin, yaay! nice way to get back in action
[15:15] <yofel> yep, just found it fresh in my mails ^^
[15:16] <kamusin> heheh
[15:23] <yofel> kamusin: do you know what happened to the bug-statistic graphics?
[15:24] <yofel> iirc it was missing last week too
[15:24] <mrand> bdmurray: ^^ Not to load you down even more, but I had the same question.  Noticed all the graphs under your username are blank.
[15:24] <kamusin> we have to talk with bdmurray , he is the men
[15:25] <mrand> jinks :-)
[15:26] <hggdh> nigel_nb: pong
[15:26] <nigel_nb> hggdh, got it solved :)
[15:26] <nigel_nb> thanks :)
[15:26] <hggdh> nigel_nb: this is the kind of problem I like :-)
[15:27] <nigel_nb> hggdh, lol
[15:31] <bddebian> Boo
[15:34] <nigel_nb> hey bddebian
[15:34] <bddebian> Hello nigel_nb
[15:34] <nigel_nb> hggdh, can you help me configure the hugday tools... I'm doing something wrong :(
[15:36] <yofel> nigel_nb: what step?
[15:36] <nigel_nb> yofel, the cookie step
[15:36] <nigel_nb> "Error while trying to read cookie in sql format, cannot handle format of '.mozilla/firefox/fsimqab4.default/cookies.sqlite'"
[15:36] <yofel> urgh, remember that, iirc I played around for a few minutes until I got the right file
[15:44] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 starting in #ubuntu-classroom (on irc.freenode.net) in 16 minutes
[15:57] <yofel> nigel_nb: got it to work?
[15:57] <nigel_nb> yofel, nope, 2morrow there'll be the whole crowd
[15:57] <nigel_nb> so hoping someone has some idea
[15:57] <nigel_nb> damn! got the mistake!
[15:57] <yofel> nigel_nb: tip: close your running firefox ;)
[15:57] <nigel_nb> yeah
[15:58] <yofel> noticed that too just now...
[15:58] <nigel_nb> yofel, thats whay I missed
[16:20] <bdmurray> yofel: what graph?
[16:20] <yofel> bdmurray: the 'Progress' image at the bottom of the hugday page
[16:21] <bdmurray> well nobody put the package name in the url ;-)
[16:22] <bdmurray> and ubuntuone-client isn't being graphed
[16:22] <yofel> ah, just noticed that, and it seems the image from last week is fixed now
[16:27] <bdmurray> yofel: anyway the graph is created now
[16:27] <yofel> ok, I'll fix the wiki page, or are you at it?
[16:28] <bdmurray> yofel: not yet so feel free
[16:28]  * yofel goes editing
[16:31] <mrand> bdmurray: thanks!  do you mind if we steal those scripts and run other graphs?
[16:31] <yofel> fixed, thanks bdmurray
[16:31] <bdmurray> mrand: for what? I could add things relatively easily
[16:32] <mu_mind> if I have a bug with my touchpad driver, should I still report that through apport somehow?
[16:33] <mrand> bdmurray: mythbuntu and mythplugins would be the two biggies.  there are other small ones that are probably not worth the trouble.
[16:34] <bdmurray> mrand: mythtv? since mythbuntu is a distro
[16:36] <mrand> bdmurray: Actually, we were hoping for the distro.   problem is that there are a bunch of bugs parked in the distro... it is used to cover all
[16:37] <mrand> ignore that... I'm editing.
[16:37] <mrand> bdmurray: ...cover all the stuff /other than/ the upstream mythtv bugs.  File permissions, config files, etc. etc.
[16:38] <bdmurray> mrand: okay so mythbuntu the project and mythtv-plugins the package?
[16:38] <mrand> the mythtv package (which you already graph - thank you!) is used for bugs in the actual mythtv app.
[16:38] <mrand> yes.  that'd be super!
[16:45] <bdmurray> mrand: okay they should show up sometime
[16:47] <mrand> awesome.  Thanks!
[16:49] <bdmurray> mythbuntu will be under project-graphs
[16:56] <mrand> ah, I was wondering :-)
[17:00] <mu_mind> oh, I guess I use "ubuntu-bug linux" to report a bug against a kernel driver...
[17:07] <om26er> If a user faces a bug in empathy <IP_ADDRESS> and there is a probability that it might have fixed in empathy 2.29.6 should I ask the reporter to send it upstream? or ask him to test empathy 2.29.6 ?
[17:09] <BUGabundo_work> om26er: depends on how advanced the user is, and if there is a newer version avialable
[17:11] <om26er> BUGabundo_work, well i don't know how advance he is.. so should I ask him to test empathy 2.29.6?
[17:15] <BUGabundo_work> if there is a PPA with a newer version , or if it is in proposed pocket
[17:15] <BUGabundo_work> if he is not an advance user, then you will have to look for it upstream and / or get other testers
[17:24] <hggdh> qense: done, good luck. Ping me if you would like some changes
[17:25] <hggdh> qense: heh. You had already replied to me. Sorry
[17:44] <issyl0> hi there
[17:45] <issyl0> I've just seen the email to the ubuntuone-users list and wanted to see if I could get involved some how.
[17:46] <issyl0> I would like to get involved and learn much much more about bug tracking, submitting and dealing with bugs (I have next to no experience in dealing with bugs as yet)!
[17:54] <yofel> issyl0: welcome! You'll get a general overview of our team here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[17:55] <issyl0> Thanks!
[17:57] <yofel> issyl0: if you want to join, you should request a mentor (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors)
[17:58] <issyl0> Ah, brilliant.  This looks amazing!
[17:58] <yofel> issyl0: then read the how to triage bugs guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage and come back for any questions ;)
[17:59] <issyl0> I was reading that just now.  Re-reading won't hurt ;)
[18:00] <issyl0> Okay.  I shall go and request a mentor now then! :)
[18:04] <issyl0> Okay, just joined the bugsquad membership
[18:10] <yofel> issyl0: you might also want to join the bugsqaud team while you're at it https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad
[18:11] <issyl0> Can I do that without a mentor?  Will do, then! :)
[18:11] <issyl0> Done
[18:15] <yofel> issyl0: then you're done with applying for now (If I didn't forget anything). If you want to start right away, you'll find New bugs on the HowtoTriage page (see Untriaged Bugs) or look at our Hugday tomorrow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100128
[18:15] <yofel> issyl0: you should usually start with an application you're familiar with ;)
[18:16] <issyl0> Okay yofel.  Thanks very much!  I'll take a look right away then :)
[18:16] <yofel> issyl0: and again, don't forget to ask us any questions you might have
[18:20] <issyl0> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/513390 this is a feature request, and according to the triaging bugs page they should go to brainstorm... am i right?
[18:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 513390 in docky "[feature request] google reader docklet" [Undecided,Invalid]
[18:20]  * issyl0 just marked it as invalid
[18:21] <issyl0> yofel? ^ :)
[18:22] <yofel> looking at it
[18:23] <yofel> a) never change the status of a bug without explaining WHY you're doing it
[18:23] <issyl0> ok
[18:23] <yofel> hm
[18:23] <yofel> what was docky again?
[18:25] <issyl0> yofel: I don't know, I just saw it and thought *feature request* *launchpad* *bug* and :/
[18:27] <issyl0> Which probably wasn't the best start!
[18:27] <yofel> issyl0: It depends, if its a general idea to improve ubuntu it should go to brainstorm
[18:28] <yofel> but if you're requesting a new feature in a specific application you should rather ask us to mark it as 'Whishlist'
[18:28] <issyl0> Which tbh I don't think it was, as it wasn't filed under Ubuntu
[18:28] <issyl0> Aaah.
[18:29] <vish> issyl0: docky isnt an ubuntu package , you can let the docky team deal with that bug
[18:30] <issyl0> Okay, thanks!
[18:30] <vish> issyl0: usually packages in the main repos are better to triage.. they are the ones which need more love ;) ...  they[docky team] decide if they want to add wishlist :)
[18:31] <issyl0> Okay, where do I find those?
[18:31]  * issyl0 just went to bugs.launchpad.net
[18:33] <vish> issyl0: the more important question is... what packages are you interested in triaging? :)
[18:33] <vish> any preferences?
[18:34] <persia> One can also usefully choose to triage types of bugs.  Like crashes, or theme issues, or menu presentation, etc.
[18:34] <persia> But trying to triage *everything* in the beginning quickly becomes daunting.
[18:34] <issyl0> vish: desktop stuff.. software that i use often.. design stuff..
[18:35] <issyl0> hmm
[18:35] <issyl0> persia: I can imagine!
[18:35] <vish> issyl0: you might want to start out with bugs which have no packages and just filed as "Ubuntu"
[18:36] <issyl0> Okay.. I'll have a look.
[18:36] <issyl0> I have so much to look for¬
[18:36] <issyl0> s/¬/!/
[18:37] <vish> hmm , let me get you the link...
[18:38]  * vish finding it difficult to find the link :s
[18:40] <yofel> I'll look for it too, here's another one at first: New Bugs in Ubuntu (with and without package) http://u.nu/9zqt4
[18:40] <issyl0> That's a new URL shortener I hadn't heard of!
[18:41]  * issyl0 thanks yofel and looks
[18:42] <vish> issyl0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&assignee_option=none&field.has_no_package=on
[18:42]  * vish phew
[18:42] <issyl0> Ha!
[18:42] <yofel> yep, found it too right now
[18:42] <issyl0> Thanks!
[18:43] <yofel> on the knowledge base page -.-
[18:43] <vish> yoasif: hehe , yeah... there were so many pages i went from one to another , eventually found it ;)
[18:44] <vish> oops > yofel ^
[18:44] <yofel> ^^
[18:45] <yofel> *sigh*
[18:46]  * yofel wonders why the hell a kernel oops report would end up without a package
[18:46] <yofel> the reporters change the affect field when reporting?
[18:46] <persia> !ohmy
[18:46] <ubot4> Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.
[18:46] <persia> But aside from that, it might also be manually filed in some way.
[18:47] <issyl0> maco: boo
[18:47] <yofel> persia: I doubt that if it's tagged apport-kerneloops
[18:47] <persia> Then your first guess it probably correct, unless it got mistriaged along the way.
[18:47] <yofel> persia: like bug 512660
[18:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512660 in ubuntu "[LENOVO 2007C4U] late resume failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512660
[18:49] <maco> yofel: you can view a log of changes to the bug
[18:49] <persia> Yeah.  Either an issue with apport, or more likely, user error when filing the bug (and in a very odd way).  Finding out how the user filed the bug may expose another interesting bug.
[18:49] <persia> maco: There aren't any, except the filing.
[18:49] <maco> O_o
[18:59]  * vish closes ears , expecting noise from > Bug 506158
[18:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 506158 in malone "checkwatches hammers the remote server when asking for changed bugs" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506158
[19:00] <yofel> vish: oh, my mailbox almost drowned earlier when the bugwatches for KDE were turned back on ^^
[19:22] <strycore> Hi there
[19:24] <strycore> when rebortbug sends the mail to Debian , is there a way to check it has correctly been sent ?
[19:33] <hggdh> strycore: you should receive a confirmation email from the Debian BTS in a few (minutes, hopefully)
[19:34] <strycore> it's been several minutes now, can I assume the bug hasn't been sent ?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> anyone know dirteur in launchpad? Is this another problem user name? bug 288797
[19:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 288797 in synaptic "[Intrepid] Synaptic unusable - Can not find packages" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/288797
[19:36] <charlie-tca> last comment
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Well, take it back, last status change on the jaunty issue
[19:38] <strycore> ok now this isn't funny
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> charlie-tca - this problem occurs frequently
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> please just change the status back, subscribe the user, and leave a comment
[19:38] <strycore> lp : 513418
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Okay. He joined today, no karma, and no nothing.
[19:39] <yofel> bug 513418
[19:39] <ubot4> yofel: Bug 513418 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/513418 is private
[19:39] <mvo> hm, does synaptic not notice that the searchi index is out of date? i.e. does it not show something like "rebuilding index" ?
[19:39] <strycore> ah yes it's still private there's a coredump in it
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> charlie-tca - the issue about users randomly changing bug status is here: bug 412925
[19:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 412925 in malone "new ajax interface for changing bug statuses is too easy" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412925
[19:40] <yofel> strycore: what's the bug about?
[19:40] <strycore> reportbug crashing when sending the mail to debian
[19:40] <charlie-tca> chrisccoulson: thanks
[19:49] <hggdh> heh. So much for reportbug... strycore, you can send the email manually. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
[19:49] <hggdh> (and then we will find out what gives on reportbug
[19:51] <strycore> maybe it's specific to submittodebian, i've been using that
[19:53] <strycore> there's an update to reportbug coming very soon, it's on the lucid-changes ML , i'll try with that
[20:24] <charlie-tca> It should be specific to debian now. It used to flood the users mailing list with the reports, but no developers saw them


[00:36] <xubuntu267> Dec 12 16:50:24 ubuntu ubiquity[3189]: log-output -t ubiquity fontconfig-voodoo --auto --force --quiet --> instalacion de xunbuntu demora mucho tiempo
[00:52] <XeiaieX> hallo jeden
[00:52] <XeiaieX> i have a question and im hoping someone can help me!
[00:52] <XeiaieX> ive searched and searched to no avail
[00:53] <XeiaieX> ive installed xubuntu 11.10 and compiz/emerald and have compositing working and everything is flawless. however, the xfce panels do not cast a drop shadow
[00:53] <XeiaieX> anyone have any ideas why?
[00:54] <holstein> i find focus issues
[00:54] <XeiaieX> ?
[00:54] <holstein> and other deal breakers... i remember there being some giant shadow i had to tame down when running emerald
[00:54] <XeiaieX> everything is perfect except that my panels do not have shadows
[00:55] <XeiaieX> all other windows do though
[00:55] <holstein> well, it wasnt perfect for me
[00:55] <holstein> i find it laggy too
[00:55] <XeiaieX> ok so do you know what might be the problem?
[00:55] <holstein> the right click menu is laggy
[00:56] <XeiaieX> ...
[00:56] <holstein> XeiaieX: sure.. its just not meant for XFCE
[00:56] <XeiaieX> how do i enable drop shadows on the xfce panels as theyre supposed to ..
[00:56] <XeiaieX> the option is enabled in the settings
[00:56] <XeiaieX> yet the shadows do not appear
[00:57] <holstein> not sure
[00:57] <holstein> you'd need to disable compiz and test, and file a bug
[00:58] <holstein> and follow up pretty seriously
[00:59] <holstein> it would be nice to get on some of this eye-candy
[00:59] <holstein> i think its getting worked out more and more
[00:59] <holstein> in xubuntu
[01:00] <holstein> XeiaieX: where did you get emerald?
[01:00] <holstein> an old .deb?
[01:01] <XeiaieX> ummmm
[01:01] <XeiaieX> a deb i downloaded from a website but im not sure if its old or what
[01:01] <holstein> well, its not from canonnical
[01:01] <holstein> for 11.10
[01:01] <holstein> not that thats the issue...
[01:01] <holstein> but, we are pulling a lot of things in trying to make it look like gnome 2 did with compiz
[01:02] <holstein> or at least that was my goal at first
[01:02] <XeiaieX> i doubt that would cause that though
[01:02] <holstein> sure, but something is causing it... and is it the decorator?
[01:02] <XeiaieX> how do i check?
[01:03] <holstein> not sure
[01:03] <holstein> i say, choose your battles
[01:03] <Crash_O-D> Could use help with samba share with windows trying to connect
[01:03] <holstein> if thats literally the only thing missing, i say thats pretty good
[01:03] <holstein> Crash_O-D: permissions are a pain there
[01:04] <XeiaieX> see here is a screenshot http://www.zimagez.com/full/172696bd321149448302d8b06046bee3e9e9a53117bc822e26a1fcbd0408a4be903c29a12cf95e1a920e11ebd6ecd7f38262b8b086db1185.php
[01:04] <holstein> i typically use swish to connect windows to ssh :)
[01:04] <holstein> or filezilla
[01:04] <Crash_O-D> i see the folder but will not allow me to connect due to premissions i even set user name as same as linux and pass
[01:04] <holstein> Crash_O-D: yup... that'll be the deal though
[01:04] <holstein> XeiaieX: looks like a line there
[01:05] <XeiaieX> thats the panel not a shadow
[01:05] <holstein> still... looks good to me
[01:05] <XeiaieX> i dont like it without shadows
[01:05] <holstein> yup, its a drag
[01:05] <XeiaieX> im not a defeatist... so im not gonna just accept it as it is even tho i dont like it
[01:05] <XeiaieX> i must fix it
[01:06] <holstein> you'll need to disable compiz and test
[01:06] <XeiaieX> i did
[01:06] <holstein> test it stock... you can do that from the live CD
[01:06] <XeiaieX> ya ill boot it on a diff machine live right now
[01:06] <XeiaieX> clean setup tho huh? :)
[01:07] <holstein> yeah
[01:07] <XeiaieX> i love it all except for that issue
[01:07] <holstein> looks nice
[01:07] <XeiaieX> thanks
[01:07] <holstein> i just found that by the time i got it the way i wanted it, it was like twice as laggy as gnome2 was
[01:07] <XeiaieX> couldnt run any better for me
[01:07] <XeiaieX> tho this is by no means a slow machine
[01:13] <XeiaieX> just booted another machine live and checked  the dock shadows and there arent any
[01:20] <XeiaieX> k
[02:10] <asterismo> hi people
[02:10] <asterismo> i need help
[02:10] <asterismo> xfce in ubuntu 11.10 is completely broken since 1 week
[02:10] <asterismo> when double click on videos it launched 2 instances of totem (my default player)
[02:11] <asterismo> and now i cannot edit through alacarte the command
[02:11] <asterismo> in nautilus right click in video file, cannot edit the "open with", i cannot add an applicatino command
[02:11] <asterismo> please this is too bad to be true
[04:45] <ball> I just built myself a new Xubuntu box
[04:56] <vinny> it is amazing..
[04:57] <vinny> good lookin'  ,fast,easy,
[07:14] <alejandro_moreno> hello
[07:16] <alejandro_moreno> I installed xubuntu 11.10 from a USB stick, and after rebooting, the installed xubuntu doesn't recognize my wireless card, or my USB stick ...
[07:16] <alejandro_moreno> is there something I
[07:16] <alejandro_moreno> can do besides moving my machine closer to my router, so that I can try wired connection?
[07:18]  * alejandro_moreno is going to sleep, and will be back in ~6 hours
[07:41] <chiiiiiz> hello
[07:42] <chiiiiiz> I am using Voyager, a customised version of ubuntu/Xubuntu.
[07:43] <chiiiiiz> The file manager is managed by Xubuntu, and so is Thunar. I want to use Nautilus for some operations (use of some scripts, among others)
[07:43] <chiiiiiz> I have made a launcher saying "nautilus --no-desktop", in my AWN dock. This works.
[07:44] <chiiiiiz> But when I enter "nautilus --no-desktop" in the field "File Manager" of my Favorite Application menu, the --no-desktop option is ignored.
[07:44] <chiiiiiz> Does anyone know how to tell XFCE to pay attention to the option?
[14:11] <RokcStar> hi
[14:12] <baizon> hello
[14:19] <Xenicide> If i have a extended filesystem on sda2, is it safe to delete sda2 that contain windows?
[15:11] <ePlus> good afternoon all
[15:23] <olbi> hello :)
[15:35] <eli_> anyone feel like helping me maybe?
[15:36] <holstein> eli_: you'll just need to ask your question, and if anyone can, they will help
[15:37] <eli_> ok, well i am unable to connect wirelessly with my laptop running xubuntu. it keeps asking for the WPA2 key even though it's right
[15:37] <eli_> i am very new to linux in general
[15:38] <eli_> apparently my router sucks, so i tried changing the macaddress of the laptop to see if the router was blocking my macaddress due to too many keep-alive packets
[15:38] <holstein> eli_: i would go into the manager, and delete the connection, and double check that it is 'right'
[15:38] <eli_> but that didn't seem to help
[15:38] <holstein> if you can, just keep it simple
[15:39] <holstein> you shouldnt have to do anything special
[15:39] <eli_> well the thing is, i was connected. it just pooped out on me and keeps asking for the key. i revealed key and it's right
[15:39] <eli_> it was doing the same thing to my friends crunchbang laptop when he brought it over
[15:39] <holstein> sure, but i dont know what all you have done
[15:39] <holstein> changing mac addresses... or whats up with the router
[15:40] <eli_> it works fine on my dad's windows laptop, he can connect fine
[15:40] <eli_> my girlfriends mac also connects fine.
[15:40] <holstein> i think we should consider that coincidence until you get further data
[15:41] <holstein> theres also another constant there
[15:41] <holstein> linux is new to you, and mac is not new to your GF, and windows is not new to any of you
[15:41] <eli_> mhm
[15:41] <holstein> if you can wire up temporarily, and apply all updates in case its something that needs patched
[15:42] <eli_> i'm hardwired in right now
[15:42] <holstein> either undo what you have done, or just boot up from the live CD
[15:43] <eli_> i used macchanger to randomly choose a new macaddress, want me to return it to the permanent address?
[15:44] <ZAN3> Hey all.  Making the switch to Xubuntu.  Got both 32 & 64bit ISO's. Not sure which to install.  My 4 yr old notebook has 1.7 GHz Single core CPU, 2Gb RAM, 160 Gb HDD etc.  Which version should I go for?  Will 64bit use MORE cpu and thus run hotter? And is it ANY faster? I;ve hear 64bit uses more RAM - if so, will apps take longer to load due to having to access more of the memory?  What are the benefits/cons of running either version on this system?
[15:44] <ZAN3> Nobody seems to really know the answer.  Here's hoping someone can help me out.   Regards.
[15:46] <holstein> eli_: i want you to either try and return to as much of the out-of-the-box setup as possible, or boot up into the live CD
[15:46] <holstein> taking these potential breakages/customizations out of the equation
[15:46] <eli_> ok 1 sec
[15:46] <baizon> ZAN3: what laptop do you got?
[15:46] <holstein> you can also apply upgrades while you are on the wired internet and see if that provides a pathc
[15:46] <holstein> patch*
[15:47] <baizon> ZAN3: write the exact cpu data plz
[15:47] <holstein> ZAN3: for less that 4GB's of ram, the 32bit version is usually suggested
[15:47] <ZAN3> @baizon:  Dell - Celeron M530
[15:47] <holstein> theres really no deal breakers anymore running 64bit though
[15:47] <holstein> flash used to be a sticking point
[15:48] <holstein> eli_: you can use the update manger, or you can open a terminal and run
[15:48] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[15:48] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:48] <holstein> eli_: or you can use synaptic... clicking reload, and mark all upgrades
[15:49] <baizon> ZAN3: what are you planning to do with your system?
[15:49] <ZAN3> @baizon: less /proc/cpuinfo, processor       : 0
[15:49] <ZAN3> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[15:49] <ZAN3> cpu family      : 6
[15:49] <ZAN3> model           : 22
[15:49] <ZAN3> model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU          530  @ 1.73GHz
[15:49] <ZAN3> stepping        : 1
[15:49] <ZAN3> cpu MHz         : 1729.196
[15:49] <ZAN3> cache size      : 1024 KB
[15:49] <ZAN3> fpu             : yes
[15:49] <ZAN3> fpu_exception   : yes
[15:49] <ZAN3> cpuid level     : 10
[15:49] <ZAN3> wp              : yes
[15:49] <ZAN3> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc up arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dts
[15:49] <holstein> for less that 4 GB of ram, use 32bit
[15:49] <ZAN3> bogomips        : 3458.39
[15:49] <Pici> !paste | ZAN3
[15:49] <ZAN3> clflush size    : 64
[15:49] <ZAN3> cache_alignment : 64
[15:49] <ZAN3> address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
[15:50] <holstein> ZAN3: also, use a pastebin for this ^^
[15:50] <ZAN3> sorry for that
[15:50] <ZAN3> new here
[15:50] <holstein> no worries
[15:50] <baizon> ZAN3: what are you planning to do with your system?
[15:50] <ZAN3> The basics, maybe a bit of light video editing from time to time
[15:52] <baizon> ZAN3: are you planning to buy RAM to get 4GB?
[15:52] <ZAN3> It's maxed out at 2Gb
[15:52] <baizon> ok, then my recommendation is 32bit
[15:54] <ZAN3> @baizon:  thanks.  so what is the REAL difference between them - apart from the RAM required?
[15:55] <ubuntu> ok. im booted from live USB. i have no wireless capabilities, same as when i first installed.
[15:55] <ubuntu> <----- eli_
[15:56] <holstein> ZAN3: ths 64bit version will utilize the chip better for some things
[15:56] <holstein> you might notices if you were rendering video in something with 64bit support that it would rendor much faster
[15:56] <holstein> assuming you have enough ram
[15:57] <holstein> you might also notice other things are slower
[15:57] <baizon> ZAN3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[15:57] <ZAN3> @holstein:  Okaaay.  So if it uses the chip better it RUNS hotter and uses more battery, right.  Sorry for being stupid
[15:57] <holstein> ZAN3: that depends
[15:58] <holstein> i wouldnt choose 32 or 64 for battery life
[15:58] <baizon> ZAN3: yes, for older chips 32 can be better than 64
[15:58] <ubuntu> should i install drivers?
[15:58] <baizon> because there arent developing it anymore
[15:58] <holstein> it depends like baizon is asking, on what you are planning on doing
[15:58] <baizon> ubuntu: is your wifi on?
[15:59] <ubuntu> no, its greyed out, says firmware needed
[15:59] <Sysi> menu -> system -> additional drivers
[15:59] <baizon> jockey is recommending something?
[15:59] <Sysi> you should have firmware or driver there
[15:59] <holstein> ubuntu: if its a broadcom chip, there are a couple of drivers
[15:59] <holstein> maybe you should try the other one
[15:59] <ubuntu> it is broadcom
[16:00] <ubuntu> i went to menu -> system but i didn't see additional drivers
[16:00] <holstein> i would check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:00] <Sysi> maybe I remember wrong, somewhere in menu anyway
[16:00] <ubuntu> alright ill do that now
[16:00] <baizon> ubuntu: open terminal, and type: jockey-gtk
[16:00] <ubuntu> well there's a little icon in the panel asking me to install drivers
[16:01] <ubuntu> ok, it brought up an option to activate drivers
[16:02] <baizon> so do it :)
[16:02] <baizon> and it should work
[16:03] <ubuntu> hmmm it says i need to restart before changes will take effect
[16:04] <ubuntu> and im pretty sure my friend who helped me install already did that too
[16:04] <ubuntu> like i said, it was working a couple nights ago, but in the middle of watching a movie on mplayer it disconnected and i haven't been able to get back on
[16:05] <baizon> check the log
[16:05] <ubuntu> how? sorry, im so new, this is my first ever linux install
[16:06] <ubuntu> and should i reboot into the harddrive to check it?
[16:07] <holstein> ubuntu: did you read that wiki page?
[16:07] <holstein> AFAIK there are 2 drivers, you can try the other one
[16:07] <holstein> and you can try it from the live CD
[16:07] <ubuntu> oh sorry, i will read it now
[16:09] <puff> Hm, I'm looking at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Commands_for_the_settings_manager
[16:09] <holstein> the arch documentaion is great
[16:10] <puff> It looks like something like this might help me out (I want to make a simple clicky icon to activate my external display port) but I'm unclear, from reading that, how I actually invoke those commands.
[16:11] <holstein> puff: are you trying to extend the destkop? or mirror?
[16:11] <puff> Mirror.
[16:11] <puff> I move my laptop between desks, one desk has a nice large Dell monitor.
[16:11] <holstein> you can do that in the system settings under 'monitor'
[16:11] <holstein> display?
[16:11] <holstein> i think its monitor
[16:11] <puff> Yes, display.
[16:11] <holstein> i like arandr as well
[16:12] <puff> Settings/Settings Manager/Display, select the dell monitor, click the checkbox for "usee this display"
[16:12] <puff> Every time I plug in.  Since I do this at least once, sometimes twice a day, I'd like to set up a shortcut.
[16:13] <holstein> puff: you can script something im sure, or do something like automate the mouse clicks with something
[16:14] <puff> Hm, looking at arandr and I'm not sure how it applies.
[16:15] <ubuntu> apparently i can't apt-get install the driver because im not root
[16:15] <holstein> well, it applies like i said... when i want to extend my desktop
[16:15] <holstein> its not so much for your case.. i was going to ask you to test it
[16:15] <holstein> but, you can disregard it
[16:15] <nefpte> how would i be able to display multiple clocks in xubuntu 11.10?
[16:15] <holstein> you sudo apt-get install ubuntu
[16:16] <ubuntu> i did, same message
[16:16] <holstein> sudo apt-get install whatever
[16:17] <puff> ubuntu: Don't forget to put "sudo" at the beginning.
[16:17] <puff> ubuntu: Also, you should be doing this from the account you first set up when you installed ubuntu.
[16:17] <ubuntu> yea, i tried that first. it says Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[16:17] <holstein> puff: its live right now
[16:17] <holstein> ubuntu: you have another package manager open
[16:17] <ubuntu> oh, you are correct
[16:17] <puff> ubuntu: Yeah, what holstein said.
[16:18] <pleia2> nefpte: you can add multiple of the "orage clock" to your panel and set different time zones for them
[16:21] <nefpte> pleia2: right click on panel>panel>add new items>add clock? just moved from ubuntu
[16:21] <pleia2> nefpte: add "orage clock" not the regular clock
[16:21] <pleia2> but otherwise, yes
[16:22] <puff> Hm, found xfce-settings-display, but I need to list the displays so I know what argument to feed it.
[16:22] <ubuntu> hrm. neither drivers is working. they both say (firmware missing)
[16:23] <ubuntu> anyway... thanks for all your help! i have to go to work, i will try again later
[16:25] <nefpte> pleia2: ah, but i don't know which clock corresponds to which place :s
[16:30] <pleia2> nefpte: right click on the clock and go to "properties"
[16:30] <pleia2> you can change stuff there, and you can always move them around as needed
[16:32] <nefpte> i guess that will have to do
[16:32] <nefpte> thanks
[16:45] <Kurdistan> really good xubuntu release
[16:45] <Kurdistan> 11.10
[16:45] <Kurdistan> I have cario-dock, jupiter and synapse running at boot. boot-time great. performance great.
[16:46] <Kurdistan> it seems to be stable. even if it is based on ubuntu, and ubuntu with no-LTS release are based on debian unstable.
[16:48] <holstein> its not so much based on ubuntu
[16:48] <holstein> it is ubuntu... with XFCE and other customizations
[16:48] <Kurdistan> holstein, yes I know.
[16:49] <Kurdistan> is there any xubuntu ppa like the kubuntu team haves?
[16:49] <holstein> i dont think the kubuntu team has ppas
[16:49] <holstein> not that are installed by default
[16:49] <holstein> if its not in the repos, you can push it out, and be an official flavor or whatever you call it
[16:50] <holstein> you cant ship with it by default
[16:50] <holstein> there might be a testing kubuntu ppa you can add
[16:50] <Kurdistan> holstein yes kubuntu have ppa
[16:50] <Kurdistan> some kind of backports
[16:50] <Kurdistan> that let you update your kde
[16:50] <holstein> Kurdistan: not in by default
[16:51] <holstein> mabye you check a box or something...
[16:51] <Kurdistan> holstein, yes not by default.
[16:51] <Kurdistan> holstein reason I ask is because if xfce newer version will come and I do not want to reinstall
[16:51] <Kurdistan> I still wanted the newer xfce version
[16:51] <holstein> Kurdistan: you can always build it
[16:52] <Kurdistan> holstein :) if I had the time I would. I only install stable kernel if the current does not play well
[16:52] <Kurdistan> but anyway a good xubuntu release.
[16:52] <holstein> you can build XFCE
[16:53] <holstein> if you want one that is newer than what is in the repos
[16:53] <Kurdistan> holstein have you tried?
[16:53] <holstein> AFAIK, you can suggest a backport
[16:53] <holstein> Kurdistan: nope
[16:54] <Kurdistan> holstein, okey.
[16:54] <Kurdistan> have nice day/evening. need to go.
[16:54] <Kurdistan> thx again xubuntu team for a good release
[16:55] <holstein> o/
[16:55] <holstein> yup... the xubuntu team rocks!
[16:55] <go8765> hello. can I  found anywhere dooble fresh debs?
[16:56] <holstein> go8765: ?
[16:56] <go8765> holstein, what? :)
[16:57] <Sysi> precise daily/repositories are newest you can get
[16:57] <Sysi> or debian experimental
[16:57] <holstein> go8765: what indeed.. what is your question? what is a "dooble fresh deb?"
[16:57] <Sysi> for less bleeding edge, "sudo apt get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:57] <Sysi> *apt-get for first one too
[16:58] <go8765> holstein, dooble-browser | deb- is dooble.deb
[16:59] <go8765> Sysi, your answers for me?
[16:59] <Sysi> not really
[16:59] <Sysi> I thought you typoed "doable"
[16:59] <holstein> im not finding any dooble browser
[16:59] <holstein> but, you can download and build it if its open
[17:01] <holstein> go8765: you might not find a .deb package for such an obscure application
[17:01] <Sysi> !info dooble
[17:01] <Sysi> hard to say about version number like that
[17:01] <holstein> interesting... google fail!
[17:02] <holstein> midori is nice and lite
[17:02] <holstein> AH.. finally found it http://dooble.sourceforge.net/
[17:03] <holstein> this is the latest version.. http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/files/Version%201.26/
[17:04] <go8765> holstein, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dooble http://dooble.sourceforge.net/
[17:04] <go8765> holstein, and what about .deb?
[17:04] <holstein> go8765: if they make one, it'll be there
[17:04] <holstein> doesnt look like they do
[17:05] <go8765> i need to make it myself?
[17:06] <holstein> need?.. i mean, if you want the latest, that would be the way to go
[17:06] <Sysi> go8765: what version is in package from repositories?
[17:07] <go8765> Sysi, I think omething like 0.64 :)
[17:07] <go8765> *something
[17:07] <Sysi> you should file a bug probably
[17:08] <go8765> Sysi, what you mean?
[17:09] <Sysi> make a bug report / use ubuntu-bug / contact package maintainer
[17:09] <holstein> contributing upstream to it is not a bad idea as well
[17:10] <go8765> Sysi, *english is not my native? so its hard to me fully understand what you mean :(
[17:10] <go8765> Sysi, about what bug you say ?
[17:10] <Sysi> upstream has probably nothing to do with distro-specific packaging
[17:10] <holstein> right, but if its not maintained in debian, pulling it into ubuntu would be more of a challenge
[17:11] <Sysi> go8765: tell guy responsible for dooble on ubuntu to make package of current version
[17:11] <holstein> if its maintained for debial, it'll just trickle in
[17:11] <holstein> debian*
[17:11] <holstein> or so im told
[17:11] <Sysi> yeah, looks like it's not packaged for debian at all
[17:11] <holstein> im not finding it either...
[17:13] <go8765> thanks for help. I try to make .deb myself
[17:13] <holstein> go8765: sure.. consider packaging it like that for debian though
[17:13] <go8765> Sysi, where I can findthis guy ? :)
[17:14] <holstein> it would benifit a lot of folks that way
[17:14] <Sysi> go8765: package info and contacts are here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/dooble
[17:15] <Sysi> maybe they just drop it from precise and tell everyone to use firefox..
[17:15] <puff> What's dooble's raison d'etre?
[17:20] <go8765> *need to go out
[17:21] <Sysi> go8765_afk: please don't use awaynick
[17:28] <go8765> Sysi, why?
[17:29] <Sysi> it's not needed and creates useless scrollback
[17:29] <Sysi> !away
[17:30] <go8765> ok
[18:06] <eplus> hello all
[18:06] <eplus> how does one fix "Failed to execute default Terminal Emulator." when you try and access it from Start | Accessories please?
[18:07] <eplus> it only started after I did an update last night
[18:13] <olbi> I have problem with listening to music, I play some tracks, and after some of them, it's randomly, when next track start, than it jump to the half of song, dont know why, it is happen on all media players, like Exaile, Gmusicbrowser, Clementine, Rhythbox, sometimes it jumps 2 tracks
[18:14] <Sysi> it happens with the same tracks?
[18:14] <Sysi> do they play if you select them manually?
[18:15] <olbi> i check this on 20 randomly choose tracks
[18:15] <olbi> when I play it manualy, it works fine
[18:15] <olbi> but auto jump to next sometimes fail
[18:16] <olbi> all files are flacs
[18:19] <w30> What packages do I need for xfce4 and compiz? I don't want any kde, gnome, or unity stuff. It's so confusing with all the compiz packages available.
[18:21] <baizon> w30: i dont understand your question
[18:21] <olbi> Sysi, again it happen, after 2 tracks :/
[18:22] <w30> there is compiz, compiz-core, compiz-plugins, compiz-plugins-default, compix-plugins-extra, etc.
[18:22] <Sysi> w30: xfce4 xfce4-goodies and something for compiz
[18:22] <baizon> w30: yes
[18:22] <Sysi> try just "compiz"
[18:23] <baizon> w30: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4 <- this are the dependecies
[18:23] <w30> baizon, do I want a window decorator using the Gtk toolkit and the files necessary to integrate compiz with the GNOME
[18:24] <Sysi> for window decorator probably yeas, for gnome probably no, doesn't really matter much
[18:24] <w30> Sysi, I don't have or want gnome anything.
[18:25] <w30> Sysi, do I need a window decorator besides xfce4?
[18:26] <w30> what's compiz-core as compared to compiz?
[18:27] <Sysi> the very base of compiz, core
[18:28] <Sysi> you can read package deskcriptions if you want to be exact, I can't rmember them all
[18:29] <w30> Sysi, I have all the xfce4 goodies
[18:32] <w30> Is there a specific compiz for xfce4 or gtk-engines? and not with any gnome or kde extras/
[18:33] <Sysi> no
[18:33] <Sysi> well xfce has gtk-engine and you probably want murrine and unico/adwaita
[18:35] <w30> Sysi, yeah, probably but not worried about eye candy yet, just want cube and wobbly windows and stuff to impress Windows 7 users when they look over my shoulder
[18:38] <w30> Sysi, maybe I can set up a sensor to automatically start compiz when they  get within 5 feet.
[18:42] <w30> what's compizconfig-backend-gconfig? do I want that? Is that gnome specific stuff that some how got installed on my box?
[18:42] <olbi> ok, so problem is only on my machine, second computer doesnt have this problem, some1 know to fix this?
[18:42] <Sysi> gconf is gnome settings-daemon
[18:43] <Sysi> just grab the base and install some more when something doesn't work :P
[18:44] <w30> Sysi, somehow I have .gconf installed with xubuntu. gnome must be a virus that you can't escape on any ubuntu version.
[18:44] <Sysi> xubuntu default isn't the purest xfce
[18:45] <w30> Sysi, Oh?, How would I do better? I have the internet AND THE TIME?
[18:46] <Sysi> install minimal system (option in alternate disk) and then install very basics of xfce
[18:47] <w30> Sysi, It would to iffy to rip stuff out of my xubuntu regular install I suppose?
[18:50] <Sysi> not really, but somewhat difficult and still not same result
[18:50] <Sysi> though everything there is needed for *something*
[18:51] <w30> compiz-core is the basics or is just plain compiz what to start with?
[18:52] <Sysi> apt-cache show compiz ; apt-cache show compiz-core
[18:53] <w30> Sysi, I don't think I should start trying to remove stuff; I better do the alternate install like you said *smile*
[18:55] <Sysi> you need to select that iption before starting installation btw
[18:55] <w30> Sysi, good to know apt-cache command; thank you
[18:56] <w30> Sysi, right, I understand. Maybe I will install that way and dual boot each install to see what suits me.
[19:04] <w30>  thank to all, I am gonna start with compiz-core and see what happens; If it foobars, I will try the alternate cd minimal install way.
[19:28] <ISBB> afternoon all
[19:28] <ISBB> hoping i could get a wee bit of vnc/lightdm help here
[19:29] <ISBB> i found this page which describes pretty much my issue
[19:29] <ISBB> http://www.xubuntu.org/node/49
[19:29] <ISBB> especially the part about loggin in and only getting a background only
[19:29] <ISBB> however if i change lightdm to autologin.  logging in over vnc works great
[19:30] <ISBB> if i disable autologin it doesnt matter what session i choose i only get a background image only and the session never fully loads
[19:30] <ISBB> was wondering if ya'all could shine a little light on that subject
[19:30] <ISBB> running 64bit xubuntu 11.10
[19:30] <ISBB> with the latest kernel
[20:29] <fuente> exit
[20:50] <Crash_O-D> dmd -run build_rabcdasm
[20:50] <Crash_O-D> swffile.d(246): Error: cannot implicitly convert expression (tag.data.length) of type ulong to uint | how can i fix this?
[21:50] <prings> so i switched over from ubuntu to xubuntu and am trying to update, but it keeps asking for an unbuntu cd
[21:50] <prings> how do i fix this
[21:57] <GridCube> go to the software sources and uncheck the cds from the Other Software atb
[21:57] <GridCube> tab
[22:04] <eplus> hey all
[22:05] <eplus> n00b question here, but how can i browse to my samba share from xubuntu 11.10?
[22:05] <GridCube> !samba
[22:05] <GridCube> also
[22:05] <GridCube> !gigolo
[22:06] <GridCube> !info gigolo
[22:06] <GridCube> also thunar if you install gvfs-backends
[22:07] <eplus> soo... what do i need to install to browse samba shares?
[22:07] <eplus> lol
[22:07] <GridCube> eplus, gigolo is installed already
[22:08] <eplus> it is indeed
[22:08] <GridCube> gvfs-backends allows you to browse your shares trhough thunar, its not installed
[22:08] <GridCube> !info gvfs-backends
[22:09] <Sysi> not "browse" but connect to them
[22:09] <eplus> though gigolo is giving me: Connecting to "(null)://(null)/" failed.
[22:12] <eplus> there we go
[22:12] <eplus> gvfs-backends was needed
[22:25] <eplus> anyone got any tweaks to make the fonts a bit better?
[22:25] <eplus> like what's a good font and settings for 1080p resolution
[22:27] <holstein> better?
[22:28] <holstein> bigger?
[22:29] <eplus> less eye bleeding?
[22:29] <eplus> i don't know, probably i'm not used to it
[22:31] <Sysi> default should be pretty nice.. droid sans with medium or slight hinting
[22:31] <Sysi> dejavu sans is nice too, and try different hinting settings
[22:31] <Sysi> ubuntu-font-family is a bit different but cool
[22:32] <eplus> is it me or hinting doesn't apply to firefox?
[22:32] <Sysi> ah, you want msttcorefontf
[22:32] <Sysi> !info msttcorefonts
[22:33] <Sysi> hum
[22:33] <eplus> i installed them
[22:33] <eplus> just curious if hinting applies to FF or not
[22:33] <Sysi> I think not, inside websites
[22:35] <Sysi> not sure though
[22:35] <eplus> yes you can
[22:35] <eplus> about:config
[22:35] <eplus> gfx.use_text_smoothing_setting
[22:36] <eplus> set to true
[22:36] <eplus> ;)
[22:36] <Sysi> cool, need to check that out on desktop machine
[22:36] <eplus> Sysi, can you tell me the default fonts in FF please
[22:37] <eplus> in "advanced"
[22:37] <Sysi> probably dejavu, or ms-ones
[22:37] <eplus> oh you don't have it open
[22:39] <Sysi> ah, they're just default defaults, serif/sans-serif/monospace
[22:39] <Sysi> picks whatever is default, I don't know how to set that though
[22:39] <Sysi> probably devavu or droid
[22:40] <eplus> firefox | edit | content | advanced
[22:41] <Sysi> yup, there
[22:51] <anagande> gedit won't open, i've been fiddling with the colour schemes and plugins. It eventually became too cluttered in those folders so I deleted everything in both the plugin and the style folder and now gedit won't open.
[22:51] <anagande> any pointers? :s
[22:51] <holstein> anagande: open from the terminal and note the errors
[22:53] <anagande> http://paste.ubuntu.com/769519/
[22:55] <holstein> looks like its looking for the restortabs plugin eh?
[22:57] <anagande> got it working, thanks
[22:57] <holstein> cool
[22:57] <Kurdistan> guys/girls I think the dock-like thing in xubuntu/xfce 4.8 does not look good
[22:57] <holstein> Kurdistan: you know how to remove it?
[22:57] <Kurdistan> why not go for docky/avant/cario-dock etc?
[22:57] <holstein> right click and remove it
[22:57] <Kurdistan> holstein yes
[22:58] <Sysi> they're not xfce
[22:58] <holstein> you can install cario if you want
[22:58] <holstein> you know how Kurdistan ?
[22:58] <holstein> you can search the package manager
[22:58] <holstein> its not a dock really, its just an XFCE panel
[22:58] <Sysi> xubuntu doesn't want to be even more bloated with random goop for "eyecandy"
[22:58] <holstein> i personally appreciate that
[22:58] <Kurdistan> holstein, yes I do. :)
[22:59] <holstein> there are *no* extra packages needed to provide this functionality
[22:59] <Kurdistan> Sysi, I understand.
[22:59] <Kurdistan> but is seems a bit out-dated
[22:59] <Sysi> also kind of feature-show
[22:59] <Kurdistan> otherwise new xfce and xubuntu looks great
[22:59] <holstein> Kurdistan: feel free to 'update' as you please
[22:59] <Sysi> out-dated :D it wasnt possible before 11.04
[23:00] <Kurdistan> sysi are you a part of xubuntu dev?
[23:00] <Sysi> check out upstream xfce, that's 90s
[23:00] <Sysi> not really, know some of them though
[23:00] <Kurdistan> :) anyway I changed to cario-dock, have synapse and jupiter. browsning and chatting without any problem.
[23:01] <Kurdistan> it is really responsive
[23:01] <Kurdistan> Sysi, is any of them only here?
[23:01] <Kurdistan> :) maybe I should ask this off-topic section
[23:02] <holstein> ask what?
[23:02] <holstein> that it be changed... i personally appreciate the lightness of *not* having cairo, docky, or awn
[23:04] <Sysi> I'd go for even more conservative default settings, but I wouldn't still use them myself


 Where is Gparted? Is it only in the installer now?
[02:22] <xubuntu952> Well, I guess I
[02:22] <xubuntu952> *try the installer.
[02:29] <LinusTorvaldII> knome ru here?
[08:59] <bullgard4> [Debian 7.7] The Xfce application menu > Accessories shows two times the menu item »Screenshot«. How can that happen, and how should I
[09:00] <bullgard4> [Debian 7.7] The Xfce application menu > Accessories shows two times the menu item »Screenshot«. How can that happen, and how can I remove one of them?
[09:02] <Unit193> Simply by having two programs installed with the same GenericName.
[09:07] <koegs> bullgard4: this is the xubuntu-support channel, not Debian
[09:08] <bullgard4> Unit193: You seem to use "GenericName" as a technical term. How do you define "GenericName"?
[09:10] <Unit193> bullgard4: In the desktop file.  Last bit of information:  grep Name=Screenshot /usr/share/applications/*  but if you need any more help, there is #debian.
[09:32] <bullgard4> Unit193: I do not need any more help. I managed to solve my problem. Thank you very much for your help.
[09:51] <Unit193> Sure.
[15:19] <Guest60691> hello guys. I'm new to Xubuntu
[15:20] <Guest60691> i want to know how to solve the problem "Gave up waiting for root device"
[15:22] <GridCube> !details | Guest60691
[15:22] <Guest60691> !pastebin
[15:28] <Guest60691> this is my problem with Xubuntu. I installed it a while ago. The hard drive has no files. http://imgur.com/M7dAY7G
[15:30] <Guest60691> I mean the hard drive has no files when I installed Xubuntu. When I'm booting the OS, this always shows up.
[15:35] <GridCube> Guest60691, looks like it failed to install
[15:35] <GridCube> you should try again
[15:36] <Guest60691> Actually, it starts if I wait for about 1 minute before entering "exit"
[15:37] <drc> Guest60691:   s/install/install correctly ... GridCube has the optimum answer...re-install.
[15:38] <Guest60691> ok I'll start again. Thanks :)
[15:38] <GridCube> Guest60691, then you sound like you have some faulty harddrives
[15:39] <GridCube> i would backup everything and ty and get a new hd
[15:39] <Guest60691> I think really. Because this HDD is an old one. a HP dv6500 laptop.
[15:41] <drc> Guest60691: I'd try re-installing as GridCube said (it'll take what? 15 minutes).  If the same thing happens, then I'd look at the hardware/hdd
[15:42] <aster45> thanks drc and GridCube. thanks for the support
[15:43] <aster45> this was the 2nd time I installed it. I better buy a new HDD.
[15:43] <GridCube> that wouldnt hurt
[15:44] <GridCube> aster45, if you can boot a live session then your computer should work
[15:44] <aster45> yes, it did. My computer worked.
[15:45] <drc> Guest61563: did you md5sum the iso?  Probably not a problem but best to check everything before spending money.
[15:45] <aster45> ok I'll get back. I'll do it.
[15:49] <aster45> This was the result :  ac7829d1b274f4d8b6ac106ec5985c9f xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[15:50] <aster45> drc : I checked out the UbuntuHashes with what the iso produced after md5sum
[17:15] <Naphatul> when is 14.10 going to be released?
[17:16] <xangua> ask mark
[17:17] <slickymasterWork> tomorrow Naphatul
[17:18] <Naphatul> oh then great, thought it would be some time later
[17:25] <SaiBork> Hey all
[17:26] <SaiBork> Quick question
[17:26] <SaiBork> I'm looking at installing a linux destro on one of my machines to run xbmc on and vmware workstation
[17:26] <SaiBork> I was looking at Xubuntu and am planning on using 14.10, b2
[17:27] <SaiBork> On the site it mentions that 14.10 release is planned for October. Would it be wise to wait with the install until then, or is the beta stable enough and easy enough to update to final release?
[17:28] <slickymasterWork> SaiBork, 14.10 is going to be released tomorrow, so why not wait?
[17:28] <drc> SaiBork: 14.10-release should be out tomorrow (sometime)
[17:29] <xangua> there is xbmcbuntu that already comes with xfce and xbmc SaiBork
[17:29] <SaiBork> Ah, if it's tomorrow I can definitely wait!
[17:29] <SaiBork> That's all I needed to know
[17:30] <SaiBork> I know xangua, but as i want more with it then just xbmc I thought i'd go for this or lubuntu
[17:30] <drc> On the other hand, is there anything (known) that will change between today (b2) and tomorrow (release)?
[17:30] <drc> that is "b2+updates"
[17:30] <SaiBork> I'm not in a hurry, so might as well wait until tomorrow with it
[17:31] <SaiBork> Give it a nice clean start
[17:36] <SaiBork> Oh well, thanks all, cya
[18:00] <Noiro> ok, so I dragged files into a blank CD like I do with windows, and they are showing up, how do I finalize I want it to burn? It's a CD-R and opening xburn is overcomplicated for one, and two, refuses to blank it as blanking 'writes' thus removing the one write I get on the CD
[18:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can't blank a cd-r. It's only a write once disc.
[18:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> And, I've never tried to use thunar to add files to a CD. I don't believe it works that way.
[18:05] <Noiro> I know it only writes once, but I only need it to write the files once, how do I do that easily?
[18:06] <Noiro> I just threw a live boot of xubuntu so I could pull some files off a corrupted windows partition as it has decently fast boottime. I just need the files written to the cd :P Cmon, this isn't hard
[18:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's not if you don't make it hard. Why not use a USB stick, if the files can fit on a CD?
[18:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hell, even I rarely burn discs, anymore.
[18:09] <Noiro> because I'm already booting off my USB stick :P
[18:09] <Noiro> why won't xfburn just let me burn files to the CD once?
[18:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> Did you add the files in xfburn?
[18:10] <Noiro> my only options are: burn image, blank disc, audio cd, or data composition
[18:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> This is why you have more than one USB stick.
[18:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Did you try data composition?
[18:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> I believe that's how you burn data CDs.
[18:16] <xubuntu80o> Hey how do i access root on the live usb?
[18:17] <Noiro> Trying that now and for some reason it thinks my blank DVD is 700mb :/
[18:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> Silly, you are root on a live USB session.
[18:17] <Noiro> o.O
[18:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> Not you, Noiro. :)
[18:18] <xubuntu80o> wait really. everytime I type SU in it asks for pass
[18:18]  * Noiro has no idea what she's doing
[18:18] <xubuntu80o> so ubuntu@ubuntu is root?
[18:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> You shouldn't need us. Just use sudo.
[18:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> Su not us
[18:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> The live session has no password. So sudo won't prompt for one. It's almost like root.
[18:20] <xubuntu80o> ok than. Thanks
[18:23] <drc> Noiro: re: 700MB...I'd look for some way to explicitly tell xfburn it's a DVD not a CD (I don't use xfcburn so I can't say how)
[18:25] <Noiro> I think I finally figured it out. I'm not used to xubuntu, I usually run gnomey stuff, haha
[18:26] <Noiro> 'data composition' is such a weird wording
[18:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> Lol
[18:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> I didn't do it.
[18:26] <drc> One problem is that USB's are so common nowadays that CD/DVD knowledge is getting uncommon :)
[18:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> Pretty much.
[18:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> And, with laptops phasing out optical drives, it's only going to get worse.
[18:29] <drc> Noiro: re: "'data composition'"  You have to remember that applications are written bu coders, not real people so teminoplgy is very often "weird":)
[18:29] <drc> not to mention spelling :(
[18:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> Young folks will look at optical media like they do with vinyl or 8 tracks.
[18:29] <drc> 78's forever!
[18:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> Lol
[18:30] <drc> Noiro: Are you getting the burn accomplished?
[18:30] <Noiro> drc, I think I got it figured out ^^, thank you. My bf's a programmer so you'd think I'd be used to it :P
[18:31] <drc> Noiro: Ah, so you're imaginary :)
[18:31] <Noiro> imaginary?
[18:32] <drc> Stereotype...no real programmer has ever had a "real" gf
[18:32] <Noiro> T.T
[18:32]  * knome points out that this is the support channel and the general chatter channel is at #xubuntu-offtopic
[18:32] <Noiro> to be fair, I'm studying for my CCNA so...I'm not entirely computer illiterate. Linux and coding just arn't my forte
[18:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Bwwaaahahahaha!
[18:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Imaginary.
[18:34] <drc> xubuntu80o: You have su vs sudo under control now (i.e., you can do what you wanted to do)?
[18:34] <Noiro> anywho, thanks for the help!
[18:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> No prob
[18:35] <Hedgework> drc: I have three BFs currently...rarely have a GF, though :P
[22:56] <GaborTary> jo estét
[22:56] <GaborTary> lenne 1fontos kérdésem
[22:56] <knome> garandil, this channel is english only
[22:56] <knome> GaborTary, ^
[22:57] <GaborTary> ooo okay
[22:57] <GaborTary> i write english
[22:58] <GaborTary> You can fix this somehow? How do you move the control buttons from right to left? (minimize, and exit Full Screen)
[22:58] <GaborTary> pls video or anithing
[22:58] <GaborTary> sorry for my english
[22:58] <knome> GaborTary, see settings manager -> window manager -> tab style, section "button layout"
[23:00] <GaborTary> thanks :)


[21:03] <JHOSMAN> Hello, everyone, my name is JHOSMAN, Ubuntu'm Colombia council and request I assign a Cloak
[21:10] <IdleOne> JHOSMAN: what type of cloak?
[21:10] <JHOSMAN> IdleOne: "ubuntu/member/nickname"
[21:10] <IdleOne> JHOSMAN: link to your launchpad account ?
[21:11] <JHOSMAN> https://launchpad.net/~jhosman
[21:11] <IdleOne> IRCC can we get some assistance here for JHOSMAN
[21:12] <IdleOne> JHOSMAN: be patient and someone will get that applied soon.
[21:13] <Pici> JHOSMAN: Can you please identify to your account?
[21:13] <IdleOne> JHOSMAN: you need to register your nick
[21:13] <IdleOne> !register
[21:13] <Pici> Rather, register it first.
[21:20] <JHOSMAN> Pici: I do not understand.
[21:21] <Pici> JHOSMAN: You need to have a registered nick on freenode before we can grant you a cloak.
[21:21] <Pici> Ubottu's instructions above should explain it.
[21:22] <JHOSMAN> IdleOne: According to the wiki, I do it in a new tab freenode right? in that channel?
[21:24] <JHOSMAN>  /nick JHOSMAN
[21:24] <JHOSMAN> Pici, IdleOne I'm confused, in these steps.
[21:25] <IdleOne> is this the nick you want to use?
[21:25] <JHOSMAN> Yes =)
[21:25] <IdleOne> ok good. no space in front of the /
[21:25] <IdleOne> go to the next step now
[21:26] <JHOSMAN> In these two fields that I put?
[21:26] <JHOSMAN> step 2
[21:27] <JHOSMAN> nickserv and register
[21:28] <IdleOne> replace password_of_your_choice<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with your password and your email address
[21:28] <IdleOne> /msg nickserv register is the command you are send to the server
[21:28] <JHOSMAN> OK =)
[21:29] <Myrtti> then check your email
[21:30] <IdleOne> in the email there will be one more command you need to send to server to complete the registration
[21:30] <JHOSMAN> Yea!
[21:30] <JHOSMAN> Complete! =)
[21:30] <IdleOne> well done, Pici ready
[21:31] <IdleOne> Myrtti: hang out for a minute :)
[21:31] <Myrtti> already ready to hit enter
[21:31] <Pici> Myrtti: do the thing
[21:31] <JHOSMAN> Everything is full?
[21:32] <Pici> JHOSMAN: Congrats
[21:32] <Pici> Myrtti: thanks
[21:32] <IdleOne> Congrats!
[21:32] <JHOSMAN> =) Thanks!
[21:32] <JHOSMAN> Now I login! IRC channels at all with my username and password right?
[21:33] <IdleOne> when you sign on to freenode, you do /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
[21:33] <IdleOne> and your cloak will appear
[21:33] <Myrtti> or if you use webchat, using the login screen
[21:33] <JHOSMAN> ok Thanks! =)
[21:33] <Unit193> Best to use SASL or server pass, though.
[21:37] <JHOSMAN> I have a question, if someone tries to connect with my username, but not the key, what happens?
[21:38] <IdleOne> you can use ENFORCE to protect them from doing that. see /msg nickserv help set enforce
[21:39] <IdleOne> you no longer need the key that freenode sent you in the email. from now on you use the password you set to identify
[21:40] <JHOSMAN> OK! =)
[21:40] <JHOSMAN> thanks!
[21:40] <JHOSMAN> Bye!
[21:42] <IdleOne> later