[00:01] <dr_willis> That sounds bad.
[00:01] <dr_willis> You may want to boot a live cd and manually fsck the disks.
[00:06] <o0Chris0o> k3b wont burn encrypted dvd's?
[00:07] <Search4Lancer> internal and external, dr_willis?
[00:07] <dr_willis> all of thrm
[00:09]  * Search4Lancer commences downloading
[00:12]  * Search4Lancer wonders where the heck XP's disk checker ran off to
[00:12] <dr_willis> powering off/unplugging  linux drives while they are being used.. is bad.
[00:14] <Search4Lancer> oh yum, XP defragger doesn't even see the one partition on the external
[00:14] <Search4Lancer> well, XP in general
[00:18] <Search4Lancer> eep... tried to mount what I believe to be it, and it asked me if I wanted to format it as it hadn't been... humm... might've really done a number this time
[00:40] <leumas> genii: d prob stil persists,
[00:41] <genii> leumas: What was the error message again?
[00:41] <genii> Something about Inuser or so
[00:42] <leumas> chown cudnt find \home\luemas\.kde
[00:42] <leumas> genii: pls giv me d command line again
[00:43] <genii> leumas:   sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas /home/leumas/.kde
[00:43] <genii> leumas: if on kde4 then instead: sudo chown -hR leumas:leumas /home/leumas/.kde4
[00:44] <leumas> genii: i'm still on 3
[00:44] <genii> leumas: Then the first one
[00:44] <Pici> Why not just do all of /home/$USER ?
[00:45] <leumas> genii: this is d new error:chown: `leumas:leumas': invalid group
[00:45] <genii> Pici: Because his original error signalled something in the .kde directory specifically
[00:46] <genii> leumas: Hmm. Please pastebin result of command:  groups
[00:46] <genii> Normally the group you are in is the same as your username
[00:47] <leumas> genii: root
[00:48] <genii> leumas: Did you do something strange like enable root account and then start loggin in with it? Or maybe booted up right now to single user mode? (recovery kernel)
[00:49] <leumas> genii: nope,rite now i'm lookin " user mngmnt n i can d leumas user n group
[00:49] <genii> leumas: What is result of command:   whoami
[00:50] <leumas> genii: root
[00:50] <genii> Thats no good
[00:50] <genii> In fact horible
[00:51] <leumas> genii: how do i rectify dat
[00:51] <genii> You should not even be able to login as root, normally.
[00:51] <genii> Let alone run kde as root
[00:52] <Pici> Perhaps open a new konsole and try? Maybe you got into sudo -i or something?
[00:53] <leumas> Pici: weneva sudo -i i hav 2 put in my psswrd
[00:53] <Pici> leumas: no. Open a new terminal and just type whoami
[00:54] <genii> Pici: My suspicion is it will be the same result
[00:54] <Search4Lancer> silly question: does extracting the .iso straight to the CD have the same effect as burning the CD from the .iso?
[00:54] <Pici> genii: Mine too, but I'm reaching.
[00:54] <leumas> Pici: did jst dat n got leumas
[00:54] <ninix> I have a problem: my kwin isn't starting at kde startup, any hint ?
[00:54] <Pici> leumas: now do groups in that same window
[00:55] <BluesKaj> Search4Lancer, usually yes , k3b will open if it's the default burner app
[00:55] <leumas> Pici:
[00:55] <genii> AFK getting Advil
[00:55] <leumas> luemas adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[00:55] <Search4Lancer> BluesKaj, I'm trying to burn a live CD in Windows to fix my linux :-)
[00:56] <genii> so it is luemas and not leumas ?    (u and e reversed)
[00:56] <grendal_prime> hey is there a way to put in  a list of things that should be done when a package is uninstalled?
[00:56] <BluesKaj> Search4Lancer, that shouldn't be a problem ...using the windows burner app ?
[00:56] <leumas> genii: ok got it
[00:56] <grendal_prime> sorry wrong window
[00:57] <genii> grendal_prime: Ys, in the packagename.postinst        scripts
[00:58] <BluesKaj> Search4Lancer, copy and paste the ISO to the cdrom in my computer and a windows box will open after the file transfers , choose "burn data to cd" in the opotion box usually on the left
[00:59] <genii> grendal_prime: Sorry, packagename.postrm
[00:59] <genii> Also packagename.prerm
[00:59] <Search4Lancer> BluesKaj: I believe that would just burn the iso file itself to the CD, not burn the CD from the iso
[01:00] <BluesKaj> the Iso file should work work
[01:00] <BluesKaj> err err :)
[01:00] <genii> leumas: Was the username the only one you made so far in kubuntu?
[01:00] <leumas> genii: yes
[01:01] <genii> leumas: If so you can also use this way:    sudo chown -hR 1000:1000 /home/leumas      (or luemas, depending on if correct u or e is first)
[01:01] <leumas> genii: ok
[01:02] <genii> Because the first username made gets user id of 1000 and group id of 1000 also, whatever the name happens to be
[01:03] <leumas> genii: i fink d prob is sovled.tanx a lot
[01:03] <genii> leumas: Glad to help
[01:04] <leumas> genii: the luemas actually is samuel spelt backwards
[01:05] <leumas> genii: guessd i misplacd d u and e
[01:05] <genii> leumas: I'd guess that was the cause of some of the confusion then :)
[01:05] <leumas> genii: yes
[01:31] <Ramblurr> is there a right (tm) way to upgrade to the lastest nvidia drivers?
[01:32] <genii> Ramblurr: Maybe look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:35] <phoenixz> with CTRL-F1 - CTRL-F4 I can switch between the various desktops that I have, but I have 6 desktops and I want CTRL-F5 and CTRL-F6 also to go to these desktops.. How can I configure this?
[01:36] <genii> phoenixz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473859
[01:36]  * genii hands Pici a coffee
[01:37] <Pici> :)
[01:37] <phoenixz> genii: looks like thats is for text consoles, not for KDE graphical desktops.. :)
[01:40] <Ramblurr> genii: the driver i want is available in intrepid, but i'm using hardy :\
[01:42] <NPresta> Ramblurr, sounds like you're going to have to install the driver from nvidia.com if you want a version not available...
[01:47] <o0Chris0o> is there anyway to do a network install of kde3
[01:48] <genii> phoenixz: When I have 6 desktops in my pager ctrl-f1 thru ctrl-f6 work fine to switch between them. Perhaps you are in Compiz?
[01:50] <compilerwriter> How would one go about figuring out which packages one has broken?
[01:50] <ahmos> hi i get this error on screen after trying to open some games ( can't display this video mode change your computer input to 1440*900@60hz)
[01:50] <compilerwriter> !package
[01:50] <bopferman> I broke my Amarok.  I accidently canceled an import of music them closed the program.  Now it does not start.  I removed/reinstalled the package and still nothing.  I deleted the ~/.kde/app/amarok and still nothing.   Any idea how to fix this one?
[01:50] <genii> o0Chris0o: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot   and use an Kubuntu disc instead of the regular Ubuntu one
[01:52] <ahmos> any help!
[01:52] <o0Chris0o> !patience
[01:52] <genii> bopferman: Also remove ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[01:54] <k1> hola
[01:54] <genii> !ar | k1
[01:55] <genii> ahmos: These are linux games or windows games you installed into WINE ?
[01:57] <Walzmyn> I'm on 8.04 running KDE3 - something i've installed or upgraded asked if I wanted to change windows manager to kwin4 - should I?
[01:59] <o0Chris0o> genii: do I have to use a disc? trying to refrain from that, no more cd's left :(
[02:01] <genii> o0Chris0o: See then also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[02:01] <o0Chris0o> sweet!
[02:01] <o0Chris0o> ty
[02:02] <genii> o0Chris0o: Once you have a base Ubuntu system you can install kde desktop with install of package kubuntu-desktop
[02:07] <leumas> exit
[02:17] <compilerwriter> where in blazes do we keep the xlibs?
[02:17] <Agent_bob> !info xlibs-dev
[02:18] <Agent_bob> !find xlibs
[02:20] <genii> I think also libx11-dev might be applicable
[02:21] <Agent_bob> xlibs-dev  This package smooths upgrades from Debian 3.0 by depending on libice-dev, libsm-dev, libx11-dev, libxext-dev, libxi-dev, libxmu-dev, libxmuu-dev, libxpm-dev, libxrandr-dev, libxt-dev, libxtrap-dev, libxtst-dev, libxv-dev, x-dev, and xlibs-static-dev.  This transitional package is only depended upon by packages that haven't yet corrected their dependencies to reflect the new library arrangement.
[02:31] <Agent_bob> does dapper have known issues with "real media" ?    konq shows that it should be playing but no sound comming out... ?
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> realmedia isn't.
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i think you need the w32codecs package
[02:36] <o0Chris0o> genii: so once I have install ubuntu, I can install kubuntu-desktop, how would I remove ubuntu?
[02:37] <genii> !purekde | o0Chris0o
[02:37] <_2> !puregnome | o0Chris0o also notice
[02:38] <genii> hehe
[02:38] <_2> genii you did explain that having both is normal too
[02:38] <_2> ?
[02:38]  * genii hands _2 a coffee
[02:38] <genii> _2: No, I didn't explain that aspect
[02:39]  * _2 splashes the coffee on himself....   "thanks, that'll wake me up!"
[02:40] <_2> o0Chris0o just passing information,   it's not uncommon to have multiple desktop environments installed in linux.  i think i have 9 of them on this box...
[02:41] <Guest50634> where do you enable more?
[02:42] <_2> you simply install them.
[02:42] <o0Chris0o> I see
[02:42] <o0Chris0o> I consider that messy :D
[02:43] <Guest50634> actually it makes things a little more organized I think
[02:43] <Ahmuck> hi, intrepid ?
[02:43] <_2> Ahmuck #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <genii> Guest50634: apt-cache search wm|grep "window manager"|more                    will show you a lot of them in standard repositories that are available to install
[02:44] <_2> genii shame on you.    "more"    !
[02:44] <Guest50634> thanks for the tip
[02:44] <_2> apt-cache search wm|grep "window manager"|less
[02:45] <genii> _2: My sh syntax is inelegant, I know
[02:45] <Guest50634> lol
[02:46] <_2> syntax is fine.   i just despise using "more" when "less" is the default pager and miles ahead of the antiquated "more"      i.e.   less is more than more, because more is less than less...
[02:47] <Guest50634> I've read that 5 times and it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but I see what you're getting at/
[02:47] <_2> and we'll not even discuss "most"   :)
[02:47] <_2> Guest50634 the more is less... thing ?
[02:48] <Guest50634> yea? what about it?
[02:48]  * genii tries to shake his old bad habits
[02:48] <_2> Guest50634 "I've read that 5 times..."   <_2> Guest50634 the more is less... thing ?
[02:49] <Guest50634> yea.....
[02:50] <_2> k.   "command more" is less than "command less"    and "command less" is more than "command more"    ^
[02:50]  * genii twitches
[02:50] <Guest50634> that makes more sense.
[02:51] <Guest50634> hey question.
[02:51] <o0Chris0o> o.0
[02:51] <o0Chris0o> bbl
[02:51] <Guest50634> the proprietary drivers window won't rid itself of my tray. Keeps popping up telling me to install custom ATI drivers. How do I rid myself of it?
[02:53]  * _2 hopes "right click it and tell it to close"
[02:53] <Guest50634> just makes the window pop up. tell it to close, and it just foes back to the tray.
[02:54] <_2> hmmm that's very un-kde-ish ...
[02:55] <Guest50634> yea, I know. I'm thinking restart?
[02:55] <_2> Guest50634 looked in kcontrol ?     system services
[02:55] <Jucato> (because it's not really kde-ish)
[02:56] <Guest50634> looking now.
[02:56] <_2> Jucato you been lurking here today ?     i've not seen you in a 'coons age
[02:57] <Jucato> cocoon's age? racoon's age? tycoon's age?
[02:57] <_2> racoon
[02:57] <Jucato> yeah just lurking. studying actually. just saw the comment and had to clarify :)
[02:58] <Guest50634> any idea what the service name might be? I don't see anything obvious.
[02:58] <_2> Jucato so what's the short answer on how to "rid the tray of that icon" ?
[02:58] <Jucato> that I don't know. but I think the name of the app is jockey-kde
[02:58] <_2> Guest50634                                 ^
[02:58] <Jucato> all I know is that it's not from KDE :)
[02:59] <skinnymg1-irssi> hello everybody
[02:59] <Guest50634> yea, that isnt listed.
[02:59] <genii> Maybe see if there's something staring it up in ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:59] <genii> staring->starting
[03:00] <_2> genii i kinda like that typo.      now staring in ~/.kde/Autostart ...     :)
[03:00] <Guest50634> lol
[03:00] <genii> heh
[03:01] <Guest50634> one sec.
[03:01] <genii> I have a killer headache and not watching my typing as closely as usual. Hopefully the Advils, beer, Neo-Citran and cough syrup will put a dent in it
[03:02] <_2> in your typing ?     it probably will....  ;/
[03:02] <Guest50634> lol
[03:02] <Guest50634> seems to already have. There's nothing there.
[03:02] <Guest50634> in the /.kde/Autostart i mean.
[03:02] <Guest50634> I'll brb.
[03:03] <_2> Guest50634 grep -HiRe jockey ~/.kde
[03:06] <Guest50634> what was the intended outcome of that?
[03:06] <_2> find a configuration file that is starting the app
[03:07] <_2> if it said nothing then i missed.
[03:07] <Guest50634> it came back with a load of stuff.
[03:07] <_2> can you pastebin it ?
[03:07] <_2> !paste
[03:09] <Guest50634> one sec. I'm managing a whole bunch of other stuff here too.
[03:11] <Guest50634> here it is.
[03:11] <Guest50634> http://paste.ubuntu.com/49521/
[03:12] <Guest50634> sorry about the format.
[03:13] <Guest50634> I may have found it.
[03:14] <Guest50634> I was still looking at System Services, and I found atieventsId. the drivers for my card, it was enabled at boot under that menu, so I disabled it. Fixed?
[03:15] <Search4Lancer> don't remember who was helping me with my problems earlier, but I've gotten as far as being able to boot into Xubuntu from recovery mode - still can't fire up KDE, trying startkde from the command line gave a million failures to start x
[03:15] <_2> Guest50634 /usr/share/applications/jockey-kde.desktop  <<< daz it.
[03:16] <Guest50634> thats the location?
[03:16] <Search4Lancer> would a live CD help me at all at this point? any way to reinstall just the core Kubuntu files without wiping?
[03:16] <_2> that's what is starting the app Guest50634
[03:16] <try4ce> Can I adjust the mouse sensitivity?
[03:16] <try4ce> It feels a bit off... a hair too fast, maybe.
[03:17] <Guest50634> so do I edit? delete? _2?
[03:17] <_2> Guest50634 jucato would know.
[03:18] <Guest50634> Jucato? Yoy still here?
[03:18] <Guest50634> you*
[03:19] <sumo_su> i have a very silly questions: what do the colours of nicknames in the main chat window of Konversation mean?
[03:19] <Search4Lancer> absolutely nothing sumo_su
[03:19] <Search4Lancer> they are random
[03:20] <Search4Lancer> to help differentiate between people
[03:20] <sumo_su> Search4Lancer: argh ok... and i was trying to read a pattern:) thanks:)
[03:21] <pbus> oh,i see too
[03:25] <Raylz> are there any official system requirements for kde 4.1?
[03:26] <genii> Raylz: Perhaps ask them in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:27] <Hydrant2> hey all... I'm trying to install kubuntu on a new system but the screen goes blank before I get to the install
[03:27] <sumo_su> can you select a language?
[03:28] <Search4Lancer> hmm... here's a thought: why isn't the kde package installed? normal? bad?
[03:28] <Raylz> genii: always forget that theres a kde4 channel xD sry
[03:47] <MattP> Hi Everyone
[03:47] <MattP> Does anyone know whats happened to planetkde?
[03:48] <Hydrant2> sumo_su: yah I can, I'm trying the alternate CD now
[03:49] <genii> MattP: http://planetkde.org/ works fine here. New entry, maybe server was inaccessible for you while it was being updated
[03:50] <Jucato> MattP: try using www.planetkde.org if planetkde.org doesn't work for you yet
[03:50] <Jucato> (DNS cache)
[03:51] <MattP> strange, i am being redirected to http://developer.kde.org/
[03:51] <sumo_su> Hydrant2: so its working now?
[03:52] <Hydrant2> sumo_su: downloading alternate
 MattP: try using www.planetkde.org if planetkde.org doesn't work for you yet
[03:54] <sumo_su> Hydrant2: what kind of computer are you on? small laptop or normal desktop?
[03:54] <Hydrant2> desktop
[03:54] <Hydrant2> has dual-head video card in it, nvidia
[03:55] <MattP> thank you jucato, but it is not working for me :-(
[03:55] <Hydrant2> it's entirely possible that it's using the wrong video card
[03:55] <Jucato> MattP: did you put the www in the URL?
[03:55] <MattP> yes I did my friend
[03:55] <Jucato> MattP: what browser are you using?
[03:56] <MattP> konqueror
[03:56] <sumo_su> Hydrant2: hm yea... if so thats way over my head:)
[03:56] <Hydrant2> I could disable it in the bios
[03:56] <Hydrant2> let's see how the alternate does
[03:57] <Jucato> MattP: not sure if this works in konqueror like in firefox, but you could try it: type in "www.planetkde.org" and press Enter but immediately press Esc so the page doesn't load. then Press Ctrl and click on the Reload button
[03:57] <genii> IP of planetkde.org is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:01] <MattP> I have cleared my history, and my cache, and have tried as you suggest to use the IP, and I am trying to stop the page from loading
[04:01] <MattP> but allas, it keeps redirecting to htt://developer.kde.org
[04:01] <MattP> I am in New zealand
[04:03] <Jucato> weird.. might be your ISP's DNS cache still serving the wrong pages or something...
[04:05] <MattP> i think that it maybe,  I though that i could RRS to read the latest, however my feed only goes upto friday 19:33
[04:05] <MattP> did you say that they have recently upgraded the planet?
[04:09] <MattP> is there an IRC channel that I should report this to?  to see if other people in New Zealand are having problems with the planet?
[04:12] <Jucato> yes they did and everything should be working now. I don't think there's a channel to report to
[04:13] <MattP> Jucato, my friend, tell me please if I am missing anthing interesting on the planet?
[04:15] <Jucato> MattP: the right sidebar at http://dot.kde.org/ shows some of the latest feeds
[04:16] <mneptok> MattP: what does nslookup tell you for that domain name?
[04:19] <MattP> Server:         <IP_ADDRESS> Address:        <IP_ADDRESS>#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name:   planetkde.org Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:20] <MattP> this is the correct ip address for planetkde, as you had above
[04:21] <MattP> anyone else from New Zealand?
[04:28] <GWillakers> wish I were!
[04:33] <jason__> ok
[04:33] <jason__> hi all
[04:35] <Guest50634> Jucato, you still alive?
[04:37] <MattP> yes New Zealand is an excellent country, if only planetkde was working here!
[04:48] <ep> Backing up ~ kb3 told me i had a couple of files bigger than 2 gigs.    What utility (or bash command) might be good to  use to search subdirs for all files and find these big ones?
[04:49] <ep> I want to search hidden files too, of course
[04:50] <LeeJunFan_> say I add myself to a group in a konsole, and I want to operate on a file that group has permission to do. Is there any way I can get it to recognize I'm part of that group now w/o logging out/in?
[04:51] <NickPresta> ep, perhaps `du -k | sort -nr`
[04:52] <Hydrant2> arrgh... my Kubuntu is still blank
[04:54] <LeeJunFan_> ep: find . -maxdepth 1 | du -sk {}\ ; | sort -nr
[04:54] <LeeJunFan_> will tell you the size of every dir/file in your current dir - including hidden.
[04:54] <ep> okay thanks
[04:55] <LeeJunFan_> sry, that's not right.
[04:55] <LeeJunFan_> just a sec.
[04:55] <LeeJunFan_> find . -maxdepth 1 -exec du -sk {} \; | sort -nr
[04:56] <LeeJunFan_> ep: ^^
[04:56] <ep> got it  that does sub directories?
[04:56] <LeeJunFan_> well, it'll tell you how much a dir holds, including all it's subs.
[04:57] <ep> ok
[04:57] <LeeJunFan_> So when you identify the large one you can cd into it and then run that command again.
[04:58] <Hydrant2> oh great... nvidia 9600gt isn't supported
[04:58] <ep> LeeJunFan_: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[04:59] <NickPresta> ep, does 'du -k | sort -nr' not do what you want?
[05:01] <ep> NickPresta:  no  it gives me lines such as
[05:01] <ep> 4       ./.mozilla/firefox/lami9fou.default/extensions
[05:01] <Hydrant2> are there debs for the latest nvidia drivers ?
[05:02] <NickPresta> ep, yeah, which is the size of the files. You want the ones at the top...
[05:03] <ep> the top was truncated :)  I did  this in konsole.  Lots of files
[05:04] <Agent_bob> ep so scroll up
[05:04] <NickPresta> ep, you can `less` the results, if you want
[05:05] <ep> ok
[05:05]  * Agent_bob normally sets the scroll back buffer for konsole to about 5000 lines....   i don't recall what the default is.  something around 500 maybe ?
[05:07] <Agent_bob> and an fyi in console the scroll back buffer is determined by the vidio ram avalable to the kernel    not adjustable
[05:10] <NickPresta> Agent_bob, I think the default is only 100
[05:10] <Agent_bob> NickPresta hmmm that's low...    can even be set to "unlimited"
[05:28] <mr---t-> helo agent bob
[05:29] <Agent_bob> mr---t- shalom
[05:30] <mr---t-> peace to you
[05:33] <boozer_> does WIFI work in kubuntu?
[05:34] <Agent_bob> does firefox work in windows
[05:36] <boozer_> should I wait for another version of kubuntu or go to another distro to get wifi?
[05:37] <boozer_> is there kubuntu 8.04?
[05:38] <Agent_bob> !wifi
[05:40] <boozer_> oh sorry that should be in the FAQ
[05:42] <Hydrant2> anyone here have 2 screens setup ?
[05:51] <Agent_bob> !dualhead
[05:51] <Agent_bob> Hydrant2  ^
[05:52] <boozer_> Hydrant2 why do you need 2 monitors?
[05:52] <Agent_bob> boozer_ it's often not a case of "need" but of "want"
[05:53] <boozer_> oh so they have dual core so they want 1 screen for each processor?
[05:53] <judgen_> Anyone know why xorg crashes when i try to use the Display configurations in kde4?
[05:53] <boozer_> quad core .... 4 screnns?
[05:54] <boozer_> hehe
[05:54] <Agent_bob> boozer_ heh humour is such a tool
[05:54] <Agent_bob> judgen bug ?
[05:55] <judgen> Agent_bob: i dont know, and i cant set the modeline anymore in Xorg... just says "unsupported mode" on the screen now...
[05:55] <judgen> worked in hardy with kde3.5 and gnome.
[05:56] <Agent_bob> judgen #ubuntu+i for intrepid Q's   #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 Q's
[05:57] <Agent_bob> +1
[05:57] <kubuntero> Agent_bob: Your C is showing
[05:58] <CoJaBo> Is there a reason KNetworkManager takes 3-20 tries to connect to my wireless even tho it works with other ones?
[05:58] <boozer_> other what?
[05:59] <CoJaBo> It connects the first time to any other wireless I've tried. But mine it takes up to 20 tries before it connects.
[06:00] <boozer_> is it the card ?
[06:00] <boozer_> I hear stories about wacky cards
[06:01] <boozer_> CojaBo does the card work in other OSes?
[06:03] <Agent_bob> kubuntero heh i don't C++ it    ???
[06:03] <kubuntero> ++K
[06:03] <CoJaBo> Never tried any other OS on that one.  I had what might have been the same problem on several other computers (with different wireless cards) with several linux distros (all KDE), but I just gave up after about 5 tries on them so I don't know if it would have worked..
[06:04] <jdcnyc> jkj
[06:04] <CoJaBo> The card is "RaLink".
[06:04] <Agent_bob> !ralink
[06:04] <Agent_bob> sorry.
[06:04] <Agent_bob> thought there was a specal infonode on that
[06:04] <boozer_> what do you use to see the networks CajaBo?
[06:05] <CoJaBo> I just use KNetworkManager.
[06:05] <boozer_> wait a minute my wibee started to work again
[06:06] <boozer_> I thought KNetworkManager was for OPENSUSE 11.0
[06:06] <CoJaBo> I think it comes with any KDE distro.
[06:07] <DarkriftX> anyone know what would cause my to be unable to view websites or connect to pop mail servers, but be able to be on irc and down/upload torrents?
[06:07] <CoJaBo> I am using KDE 4.1
[06:07] <CoJaBo> DarkriftX: Bad DNS?
[06:07] <devo> how can i rewiew a pdf file in ubuntu from downloading it???
[06:08] <boozer_> have you tried wlassistant?
[06:08] <devo>  i'm new with use'n linux, srry
[06:08] <boozer_> devo open it with ghostscript
[06:09] <jdcnyc> Anyone know why I have no volume after a Heron clean install? At full volume on the speakers' knob and at every programs setting and can just barely hear anything.
[06:09] <Agent_bob> DarkriftX dns issues ?    ping -c1 google.com ;ping -c1 <IP_ADDRESS>  # for a test.
[06:09] <devo>  but is that in ubuntu, or do i have to install ghostscript?
[06:09] <DarkriftX> ping works
[06:09] <DarkriftX> but no http
[06:09] <DarkriftX> or pop
[06:10] <CoJaBo> DarkriftX: Hardware/software firewall?
[06:10] <DarkriftX> neither
[06:11] <Agent_bob> DarkriftX search the wiki i think there was a known issue with that.
[06:11] <kubuntero> jdcnyc: KDE4?
[06:11] <DarkriftX> cant Agent_bob
[06:11] <jdcnyc> I think so
[06:11] <kubuntero> jdcnyc: is it only KDE sounds you can't hear?
[06:12] <jdcnyc> Using Amarok to play a cd, used V
[06:12] <jdcnyc> Codine and Kaffine on a DVD
[06:13] <boozer_> DarkriftxX did you try restarting ?
[06:14] <DarkriftX> no, i wouldnt think linux would need a reboot for something like this
[06:14] <DarkriftX> i thought id ask in here first, but ill try that soon
[06:15] <jdcnyc> I can almost hear KDE system alert sounds
[06:16] <mdleyson> hi
[06:28] <mdleyson> hi
[06:28] <CoJaBo> hi
[06:29] <Agent_bob> yes,  hi,  yes
[06:29] <Agent_bob> oh maybe that's not japaneese
[06:30] <lustin_sa> no, bye, no
[06:33] <mr---t-> looks more like russian to me
[06:34] <mdleyson> hello everybody
[06:34] <Agent_bob> mdleyson
[06:35] <mdleyson> yes, just trying this kubuntu
[06:36] <Agent_bob> it's already been tried.   it's guilty
[06:36] <MattP> what do you think to kubuntu mdleyson?
[06:37] <mdleyson> cool...first ime
[06:37] <mdleyson> time
[06:38] <harish_> hi
[06:38] <MattP> I think that it is a great system.  Tell me please mdleyson, are you using kde3 or kde4?
[06:39] <harish_> hellooo
[06:39] <harish_> guys h r u doing
[06:40] <harish_> helloo jono
[06:44] <Agent_bob> h r u ? & y d u a ? o c u s ?
[06:45] <Agent_bob> shoot he already left.   and i was so looking forward to telling him that letters are not in and of them selves words execpt for i and a ....
[06:46] <mdleyson> kde3
[06:47] <MattP> mdleyson - a very good system indead!  r u coming from another system?
[07:02] <joegeek> anyone know where the error logs for knetworkmanager are kept?
[07:02] <Agent_bob> /var/log/  ?
[07:03] <Agent_bob> or /root/   ?
[07:06] <mr---t-> Agent_bob:  r u against letters as words?
[07:06] <MattP> joegeek - what version of kubuntu are u using?
[07:07] <joegeek> MattP: 8.04.1
[07:07] <MattP> i c.  r u having wireless connection problems?
[07:09] <Agent_bob> mr---t- only when other people do it.
[07:09] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:09] <joegeek> MattP:  yea,...  my problem is knetworkmanager seems to be connecting and then drops everything and reprompts me for a password,...  i keep hitting "ifconfig ath0" while its connecting, and I see it eventually get an ip,..  then it takes a crap on me and prompts me to reenter a password,...
[07:10] <Agent_bob> mr---t- idk any reason !2 shorten things ama possable.      execpt for the added unnesseccary confussionism
[07:10] <joegeek> been at this all day,..
[07:11] <faileas> joegeek: sure its not the router/network card? >_>
[07:12] <joegeek> faileas: no both my xp and vista notebooks work fine,...   and my kubuntu has connected to an unsecured network, and the current one earilier today,...
[07:12] <mr---t-> wow bob a little slow on the uptake ther
[07:13] <faileas> joegeek: i had a particular network card that worked fine on unsecured conenctions but not encrypted ones ;p
[07:14] <joegeek> faileas: well she did connect to this network earlier today,..
[07:14] <Agent_bob> mr---t- heh i was watching the elves gang up on the dwarves    (wesnoth)     so i'm not busy but not paying much attention to irc either.   ;/
[07:14] <CoJaBo> lol
[07:15] <mr---t-> uh yeah right
[07:16] <joegeek> faileas: it just took about seven hours of fidgiting with every option I could think of,...  and damned me, I cant remember wtf i did,...
[07:17] <MattP> joegeek - what encryption do you have on the wireless network?
[07:17] <mr---t-> hold on I'll try to channel your spirit from earlier
[07:17] <joegeek> MattP: wep
[07:19] <mr---t-> nope all I keep getting are old good times reruns
[07:19] <mr---t-> dynomite!
[07:20] <Agent_bob> nah.   "get the phone weezy!"    jeffersons
[07:20] <MattP> joegeek, im guessing that you have the same settings as the router, shared / open - ascii / hex / passphrase?
[07:21] <joegeek> yea,..
[07:22] <joegeek> MattP: open authentication; wep passphrase,...
[07:26] <joegeek> MattP: im pretty sure its getting a dhcp lease before it takes a crap on me cuz the ip is in the same subnet as my other two notebooks,...
[07:27] <MattP> joegeek have you tried taking using iwconfig in a command line to see if it works?
[07:28] <joegeek> MattP: I've not messed with wireless networks use`n any flavor of linux,...  its always been wired for me,..   where is a good howto or a walkthough on iwconfig?
[07:29] <MattP> joegeek: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[07:29] <MattP> I have used this walk through a couple of times
[07:29] <joegeek> MattP: tnks,...
[07:31] <MattP> joegeek, is there another wireless router you can try to connect to?
[07:32] <MattP> joegeek - in a terminal, type  iwlist scan
[07:34] <joegeek> MattP: I've been able to connect to a unsecured network, but its highly unreliable with an extreamly weak signal, my xp and vista notebooks wont even pick it up,..  and my xp notebook is the same make and model as my kubuntu notebook,...
[07:35] <joegeek> MattP: how do i convert my passphrase to a hex key?
[07:39] <MattP> joegeek - urm.. try this site http://www.powerdog.com/wepkey.cgi
[07:39] <MattP> do you admin access to the router?
[07:39] <joegeek> no
[07:40] <MattP> joegeek - using iwlist scan  - does it pickup your router as one of the cells?
[07:41] <joegeek> yep,...
[07:46] <joegeek> MattP: ok,...  following the troubleshooting guide, all was fine untill "dhclient ath0",...  "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[07:50] <MattP> joegeek - what happens if you use a static IP within the range of the DHCP lease range?
[07:50] <joegeek> MattP: and unlike befor (when KNetworkManager would crap out on me) the ip giving by dhclient is not in the same subnet,...     duno, I'll give it a shot,...
[07:50] <jassim75> hello
[07:50] <mr---t-> !hi
[07:51] <jassim75> i am new here...
[07:52] <MattP> hello jassim75
[07:52] <MattP> are you new to kubuntu too?
[07:52] <jassim75> very new even to linux
[07:53] <mr---t-> we all have to start somwhere
[07:53] <MattP> jassim75 - it is a little different to other operating systems.  r u finding your way around ok?
[07:56] <jassim75> actually i am very exicted and i am tyring to understand how it works
[07:57] <jassim75> Mttp- what are you guys discussing??
[07:58] <MattP> jassim75, joegeek is having difficulty connecting to a wireless network
[07:58] <MattP> we are trying to work out why
[07:58] <MattP> jassim75, may I ask which version of Kubuntu you are using?
[08:00] <jassim75> Mattp- I am using ubuntu 8.04
[08:01] <MattP> jassim75 - a very good version.  How are you finding it?
[08:01] <ngirard> Hi all. I'm using freenx to connect remotely to my Kubuntu box. Each time I close a window by clicking the "close" button, I get disconnected. How can I avoid this ?
[08:02] <Agent_bob> don't click the close button ?      sorry couldn't resist.
[08:02] <jassim75> so far its ok... i am trying to fugure out how things are installed and configured.
[08:02] <ngirard> Agent_bob: ah ah ah. Excellent
[08:02] <MattP> joegeek, how r u getting on with the static IP address
[08:02] <Agent_bob> !packages | jassim75
[08:03] <jassim75> Mattp- I have been using Windows forever!!! i bored  ineed something new and safe.
[08:03] <MattP> jassim75, yes, this was the most difficult aspect for me to get over
[08:03] <jassim75> Mattp- Thanks
[08:03] <MattP> ok, the basic concept is that you do not need CD-ROM's to install stuff, and you cant go to a website like download.com
[08:03] <MattP> to install stuff
[08:04] <Agent_bob> jassim75 and one word to the wise.   forget everything you think you know about computers. and start with a blank slate,  it's much easier to learn linux if you aren't constantly fighting preconceeved false notions.
[08:05] <joegeek> MattP: ifconfig gives me what i wanna see,..  but i cant ping anything,...
[08:06] <MattP> ALL software is kept in a 'reposity', you access this by using a package manager
[08:06] <jassim75> Agent_bob- i am tryign to start fresh.
[08:07] <MattP> in the 'start' button go into 'system' 'package manager'
[08:07] <MattP> ok, so joegeek, are you saying that you have a static IP address and you are now connecting to the wireless router
[08:08] <joegeek> MattP: i dont know if im connected or not,..  how can i tell?
[08:08] <MattP> what make of router is it?
[08:09] <joegeek> linksys
[08:10] <Agent_bob> !wiki
[08:11] <MattP> ok in konqueror try http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:11] <joegeek> jassim75: btw,..  welcome,..  as much frustration as I've had with linux over the years,...  I still love it,...
[08:12] <CoderCR> Hello all
[08:12] <MattP> it is freedom
[08:12] <Agent_bob> MattP testing apache ?
[08:12] <joegeek> MattP: its p/w protected and the owner (family member) of the router is asleep,...
[08:12] <CoderCR> How do I find out what version of Kubuntu I am currently running?
[08:12] <Agent_bob> CoderCR lsb_release -a
[08:13] <CoderCR> I guess I do have the latest
[08:13] <CoderCR> so the question is how do I upgrade to kde4?
[08:13] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[08:13] <MattP> I understand that you would not be able to access the router, but I was interested to know if the router password access screen was being displayed
[08:14] <MattP> codercr, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[08:14] <joegeek> MattP: i've tried the usual linksys username/password combos, as i have two at my house, 1800 miles away,..  I'm visting relatives,..
[08:14] <MattP> ok, but you are able to see this screen, yes?
[08:14] <jassim75> guys- i am trying to get my work email runs on Evolution Mail. i have a certificate file which i used to double click under windows. how ???can i apply this certificate for ubuntu
[08:15] <joegeek> MattP: im sorry, yes, I get prompted with a dialog box for username and password,..
[08:15] <MattP> ok, so that is saying that you are connecting to the wireless network
[08:16] <jassim75> ohh sorry guys.. lets finishe Joegeek problem first..
[08:16] <Agent_bob> jassim75 evolution is actually a gnome/gtk app  maybe ask in #ubuntu in place of #kubuntu
[08:16] <MattP> but you are not able to acess the internet
[08:16] <MattP> jassim75, have you got kmail installed on your computer?
[08:16] <jassim75> ok . thanks
[08:17] <jassim75> no...
[08:17] <MattP> this is the Kubuntu email client
[08:17] <joegeek> MattP: excuse me,.. sorry again,..  no I did that on my vista machine,...  no, no such luck on my kubuntu machine,...
[08:17] <CoderCR> 8.0.4
[08:17] <CoderCR> It did an upgrade from 7.10 a long time ago
[08:18] <CoderCR> brb
[08:20] <joegeek> MattP: dude, im getting burned out,...  i really apreciate the help,..  been at this all day (18 hours (on and off, though mostly on)),...  you've already taken me quite a bit futher than I had gotten myself,...   I'm gonna retire for the night,... and look at this with a pair of fresh eyes in a few hours,...  thanks again MattP,...
[08:20] <MattP> ok joegeek, my good friend, you have tried to set a static IP address on the kunbuntu machine and it is still not connecting?
[08:20] <joegeek> MattP: yep,..
[08:21] <MattP> ok my friend - best of luck with your troubles,  Maybe I will see you in here again tommorrow without your cable ties!
[08:21] <joegeek> MattP: i take that to mean its a wireless and not a dhcp problem,...
[08:21] <joegeek> lol
[08:22] <joegeek> good night all,..
[08:22] <MattP> Hi jassim75 are you still here?
[08:22] <CoderCR> OK.. I installed KDE4
[08:22] <CoderCR> I removed KDE3
[08:23] <CoderCR> and now I do not have a desktop nor does some stuff want to work like system:/ trash:/ etc
[08:23] <MattP> CoderCR, I hope that you enjoy KDE4 as much as I do!
[08:23] <Agent_bob> !kde4 > CoderCR
[08:23] <jassim75> Mattp- i am here
[08:23] <CoderCR> thanks
[08:24] <MattP> but I see that you are having a disapointment at first?no?
[08:24] <MattP> jassim75, Kmail is the default email client on Kubuntu
[08:25] <jassim75> i went to the ubuntu chat,,,
[08:25] <MattP> do you know if this is installed, or would you like some help installing it?
[08:25] <jassim75> actually i am confused...
[08:26] <jassim75> i have installed ubuntu.. and i see here people talking about kubuntu!!
[08:26] <MattP> jassim75, please tell me of your bamboozelment
[08:26] <MattP> jassim75, I see your confusion. let me explain
[08:27] <MattP> when you start your computer, does it say ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[08:27] <jassim75> its says ubuntu.
[08:28] <Agent_bob> jassim75 ubuntu is the distrobution of linux that you now have. and the default desktop environment for ubuntu is "gnome" but there are specaial installation disks that have "different defaults" amongst them is "kubuntu" which has "kde" as it's default desktop env.
[08:28] <Agent_bob> !kubuntu
[08:28] <Agent_bob> !xubuntu
[08:29] <Agent_bob> it is possable to have both kde and gnome installed   as many of us do have.   i have about 9 desktop environments in this ubuntu system.
[08:30] <jassim75> ok i will try this out now...
[08:30] <MattP> jassim75, this is a new concept for someone coming from windows, and it can be a bit confusing
[08:31] <MattP> you see with windows xp, you can change the menu to look fancy or you can have the classic look
[08:31] <Agent_bob> you can use any of the applications from other desktops inside any desktop,   it's just that most are designed and compiled with a specific target DE = desktop environment
[08:31] <jassim75> Mattp- you are right .. i am gettign confused... but its kind of cool... it keeps my mind busy.
[08:32] <MattP> and that is about it with windows.  with Linux you have completly change every aspect of your system
[08:33] <jassim75> i will more that happy not to go bakc to windows...
[08:33] <MattP> in this channel, we use kubuntu which uses 'kde', ubuntu uses 'gnome'
[08:34] <jassim75> ok.. i have done this "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"and just finished ... what next?
[08:36] <MattP> jassim75, lol my good friend, you have installed xubuntu, this is good, but is not what we using in this channel
[08:37] <jassim75> ok... i am confused...
[08:37] <Agent_bob> jassim75 to switch DE's you normall want to log out and click the options button at the login screen    select session and login
[08:37] <Agent_bob> jassim75 i think you failed to notice i mentioned several DE's  ^ up there.
[08:38] <Agent_bob> !kubuntu > jassim75
[08:38] <Agent_bob> !xubuntu > jassim75
[08:38] <jassim75> opps;)
[08:38] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:38] <MattP> Agent_bob, do you know which package installs kde4?
[08:38] <Agent_bob> MattP i know the infonode
[08:39] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[08:39] <Agent_bob> MattP i'm still running dapper drake here.  but i do try to kinda keep up with the infonodes the bot uses.
[08:41] <Agent_bob> !attitude | just an fyi about the help you find here in #kubuntu.
[08:41] <MattP> Agent_bob, I think that you are very wise, it is my sugestion for jassim75 is to install kde4, which I am using intredip 8.10
[08:42] <MattP> jassim75, when you login to your computer and use xubuntu, please bear in mind that xubuntu is aimed at older hardware
[08:43] <Agent_bob> MattP intrepid is still beta      please don't advise beginners to use beta software.    "and that's not an accusation, just a request for future referance"
[08:43] <CoderCR> Well I am on KDE4
[08:43] <CoderCR> any recommendations for window themes? Oxygen kinda blows.
[08:44] <MattP> agent_bob, my good friend, I would never recommend to a beginner to use intrepid, the experince my not be good! however I do not know the apt-get install for kde4 which is what I wanted for our friend jassim75
[08:45] <jassim75> so guys.. for me as a begginner.. which easier for a start ..kubuntu or ubuntu??
[08:45] <MattP> CoderCR, I use elegance, but if you do not like this, you can always use get hot new stuff
[08:45] <CoderCR> yeah.. I will check it out..
[08:46] <CoderCR> KDE4 is sweet
[08:46] <CoderCR> really nice new toolbar and desktop
[08:47] <MattP> CoderCR, sweet is KDE4
[08:47] <MattP> jassim75, it is a matter of opinion, for me I perfer kubuntu
[08:48] <jassim75> Mattp- i will try kubuntu out:)
[08:49] <Agent_bob> jassim75 easier isn't really a practical querry there.   both are about equally polished,   it's more a matter of  "do you like to right click and configure things, or do you prefer to have someone else configure most things and just ues a theme to change the general appearance?"   kde -vs- gnome in a nut shell.
[08:50] <CoderCR> which elegance?
[08:50] <Agent_bob> and that is over simplified ^
[08:50] <MattP> jassim75, please do so, for me, KDE has some cool features, phonon, plasma, nepomuk to name a few
[08:50] <MattP> these will change the way we use our computers - it really is exciting
[08:51] <Agent_bob> "Q. what do linux users do?"
[08:51] <Agent_bob> "A. they install software."
[08:51] <CoderCR> Gnome is a simple fast desktop
[08:51] <jassim75> ok i will try it out... an dwill decide myself ....
[08:51] <CoderCR> kde is more complex but less customizations.
[08:51] <Agent_bob> heh.   in many cases that's to true to be funny but to funny to be sad.
[08:51] <CoderCR> Linux is good :)
[08:51] <Reed_Solomon> less customizations wat?
[08:51] <MattP> CoderCR, elegance - Destop settings | desktop theme
 kde is more complex but less customizations. <<< what ?
[08:52] <CoderCR> Mattp: which version of elegance though. like 20 came up
[08:53] <Veliouras> hello
[08:53] <Veliouras> i would like to convert a pdf file to a txt or csv format
[08:53] <MattP> CoderCR - downloads - 4052 - if that helps?
[08:54] <Reed_Solomon> Veliouras, does openoffice do that?
[08:54] <Veliouras> reed_solomon i don't think so
[08:55] <Reed_Solomon> okular exports as plain text
[08:55] <Reed_Solomon> theres also always the pdf2txt commandline program
[08:55] <Reed_Solomon> pdftotext
[08:55] <Reed_Solomon> or pdftohtml as well
[08:55] <CoderCR> MattP: guess not.. lol.. brb.
[08:56] <Veliouras> ok thanks
[08:56] <MattP> jassim75, how are you getting on?
[09:15] <jassim75> Mattp- i ahve completed downloading kubuntu... i will burn it to install .
[09:21] <DarkSmoke> hey guys
[09:21] <DarkSmoke> why is linux not chaniling my sound on 5 speakers?
[09:21] <DarkSmoke> only 2 are working :s
[09:21] <DarkSmoke> on windows all 5 work
[09:21] <DarkSmoke> and the subwoofer
[09:22] <Agent_bob> !sound | been here ?
[09:22] <DarkSmoke> the sound system is enabled
[09:22] <DarkSmoke> my problem is the sound is working on 2 speakers only
[09:22] <DarkSmoke> the 3 no sound
[09:22] <DarkSmoke> and neither the subwoofer is working
[09:23] <Agent_bob> the troubleshooting page was the intent
[09:23] <DarkSmoke> i setted 6channel in kmixer but no luck
[09:23] <DarkSmoke> ok
[09:23] <Agent_bob> DarkSmoke and "no, i don't know much about sound personally".
[09:24] <Agent_bob> DarkSmoke i do know that there is an #alsa channel here on freenode if all else fails.
[09:26] <DarkSmoke> ok thanks
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> hi Agent_bob
[09:36] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip1
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> pretty quiet in here
[09:37] <Agent_bob> yep
[09:37] <Agent_bob> i guess i have that affect on this channel
[09:38] <Agent_bob> not like intelikey, he seemed to draw chatter out of nothing.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> maybe kubuntu just works
[09:38] <Agent_bob> lol   maybe.
[09:40] <Agent_bob> ActionParsnip1 when i got all the wrinkels ironed out of *buntu dapper   i installed debian etch...   but there is/was little more to do there...
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> you seen nubuntu?
[09:47] <Agent_bob> no
[09:48] <Agent_bob> you ?
[09:48] <Agent_bob> !nubuntu
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> its a security based buntu
[09:49] <Agent_bob> k.   i'll keep that in mind.    although my idea of security is quite different.   "never have anything on a computer that you wouldn't want the whole world looking at"  < agent bob's security protocal
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> nice
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> mines, only use official released stuff and only accept what i know or can ask.com or google.com
[09:59] <unik> can someone tell me, what is the short key for reanaming files :)
[09:59] <unik> renaming
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> f2
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> unik: or in konsole its mv oldname newname
[10:05] <Agent_bob> heh   ln oldname newname && rm oldname
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Agent_bob: oh god that is bad
[10:09] <Agent_bob> yeah it's convoluted, but it is in essence what mv does.
[10:14] <DarkSmoke> guys
[10:14] <DarkSmoke> somebody knows how to make sound go into 6channels on linux?
[10:14] <DarkSmoke> pls
[10:14] <DarkSmoke> im getting dispaired
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> http://brange.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/enabling-surround-sound-in-ubuntu/
[10:18] <yao_ziyuan> show desktop: http://infowire.googlegroups.com/web/intrepid-kde4.png?gda=kO8B70MAAAC5ARj7-9s3lvdQqjFlZh8Oo_BlTYlptYV52W7DTpxUfRxbjvvlhCL2FUQjjqjwipQytiJ-HdGYYcPi_09pl8N7FWLveOaWjzbYnpnkpmxcWg&gsc=Bhj7NAsAAACb85H5ey_CTuv6l4GmAlUs
[10:20] <jussi01> yao_ziyuan: please dont post things simultaneously to multiple support channels that belong in #kubntu-offtopic. thanks! :)
[10:20] <yao_ziyuan> .
[10:21] <DarkSmoke> ActionParsnip1: no luck :(
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> DarkSmoke: what soundcard do you have?
[10:23] <DarkSmoke> Realtek HD Audio
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> onboard?
[10:23] <DarkSmoke> yeah
[10:24] <Agent_bob> !intelhda > Agent_bob
[10:24] <Agent_bob> not sure it will help you but there is an infonode on that.
[10:25] <DarkSmoke> !intelhda > DarkSmoke
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> DarkSmoke: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/100864-realtek-hd-audio-alc888.html
[10:30] <DarkSmoke> what ActionParsnip1? i should install the drivers from the realtek website?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> DarkSmoke: looks that way, grab build-essential and get compiling
[10:31] <DarkSmoke> ok
[10:31] <DarkSmoke> is it like a propriety driver like for nvidia?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> DarkSmoke: its made by realtek but you are compiling source,so its open source
[10:32] <DarkSmoke> so its different from the built-in kernel one?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> DarkSmoke: i couldnt tell you, i have no idea
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> DarkSmoke: i use 2.1 and its fine out of the box
[10:35] <DarkSmoke> ActionParsnip1: if its the same like the built-in one it won't fix anything
[10:35] <DarkSmoke> cause my sound is working, its just acting like a 2.1 instead of 5.1
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> DarkSmoke: its worth a try, you can always roll back
[10:36] <DarkSmoke> ok
[10:39] <sigma_za> if i have 2 xscreens how can i get one to start kde and the other to start xfce?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> !xinerama  | sigma_za
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> hmm
[10:46] <sigma_za> i still want two displays but one must open kde on boot and the other xfce
[10:47] <sigma_za> !DualHead
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> sigma_za: http://lists.apple.com/archives/x11-users/2004/Feb/msg00041.html
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> sigma_za: looks like you need to pass startx some args
[10:54] <sigma_za> what arguments should i pass startx?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> sigma_za: no idea, ive never done a dual head system, the post may help or man startx
[10:56] <sigma_za> so its a dual head i need to setup?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> sigma_za: well yeah id get that first
[10:56] <ig> ciao a tutti!
[10:57] <Tm_T> ig: frutti di mare! pepperoni!
[10:57] <ig> hehe
[10:58] <Tm_T> ig: you really should use english here (;)
[10:58] <Agent_bob> dual head == two monitor system       multi-head == many monitors on one system       even using xinerama it's still technecally dual/multi-head
[11:09] <DawnLight> hello. i have sound working in an ltsp client when i log in to it as root in cl. now i'd like to know how to make the user's programs/desktop to make sound. and i'd like the user's mixer application to control the thin client's card. currently it detects no card. the user is in the fuse and the audio groups. this is kubuntu hardy
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> DawnLight: wow ive never done anything like that
[11:19] <ericguasta> salve a tutti
[11:52] <duffyd> hi any sony vaio sr series users here?
[11:53] <Tm_T> why asking?
[11:55] <eyzee> hello guys!!
[11:55] <eyzee> does any one knows how to install xp os with ubuntu as primary os?
[12:00] <duffyd> Tm_T: cos I'd like to know what the kubuntu support is like on that series
[12:00] <duffyd> Tm_T: basically I'm wanting to buy the following lappy and was wanting to confirm the support: http://www.sony.co.nz/vaio/product/vaio-by-price/notebook-panel-pc/vgnfw15gb.jsp
[12:04] <duffyd> Tm_T: I mean I've found this site: http://vaioubuntu.wordpress.com which is helpful but not specifically targetting the sr series
[12:09] <faileas> eyzee: its got kubuntu now? reparition, install xp on the new partition, fix grub
[12:11] <eyzee> faileas: nope my os is ubuntu
[12:11] <faileas> eyzee: see above
[12:12] <eyzee> faileas: sorry, what do yah mean by that?
[12:13] <faileas> eyzee: you'll overwrite your grub when you install xp
[12:22] <pala> i'm using kubuntu with kde4 -  how can i make that a certain application be visible on only one desktop?
[12:28] <waylandbill> hello. tried changing cups configuration to Listen *:631, but when I try to access the cups server on any interface but the loopback I get 403 Forbidden. Anyone know how to fix this?
[12:29] <obsrv> hello
[12:29] <obsrv> why warnings are being treated as errors? while compileing quetoo?
[12:29] <obsrv> how to make normal compilation?
[12:31] <waylandbill> duh.. answered my own question. need to actually give Allow permission to the server to @LOCAL. :)
[12:34] <nighty_> hi
[12:35] <nighty_> is there a way to setup freeNX server on kubuntu for more than 2 session like it is in the freedition from nomachine?
[12:35] <nighty_> *simultan
[13:14] <moes> I have just installed dsl ..Now I want to have the network icon to dock in the panel..Have not been able to find where to accomplish this.
[13:20] <emilsedgh> moes: install knemo
[13:20] <moes> Thanks
[13:33] <cosmofield> How can I change user and group settings in Kcontrol?
[13:39] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[13:39] <AzizLight> can I download kubuntu 8.04 via torrent?
[13:39] <jussi01> yes
[13:40] <jussi01> !torrent
[13:40] <jussi01> hrm
[13:40] <jussi01> hang on
[13:40] <AzizLight> I didnt find a link on the kubuntu website
[13:40] <jussi01> !alternate
[13:40] <jussi01> there is the alternate cd torrent
[13:41] <AzizLight> there isn't a live cd torrent? :S
[13:41] <jussi01> you will find the torrents at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/
[13:42] <AzizLight> jussi01: cool thank a lot
[13:42] <jussi01> no probs
[13:43] <AzizLight> it's weird how come the alternate cd is bigger than the live cd?
[14:05] <jani_> hello
[14:05] <jani_> anyone know how to join quakenet server
[14:05] <jani_> ?
[14:06] <ghostcube> connect to irc.quakenet.org ?
[14:06] <Tm_T> jani_: yes, depends on what client you use
[14:06] <Tm_T> !fi | jani_
[14:06] <jani_> joo kiitos
[14:06] <jani_> than you
[14:07] <Tm_T> np son
[14:17] <OuZo> hi, i have a hp dv 9500 series laptop. the synaptics touch pad's side scrollers stoped working. how can i renable them? thanks
[14:21] <payomeke> hola
[14:21] <payomeke> alguien?
[14:21] <payomeke> alguien podria indicarme un poco como va esto?
[14:22] <Tm_T> !pt
[14:22] <Tm_T> !es
[14:22]  * Tm_T doesn't know
[14:26] <emerson> I think firestart is blocking my inbound traffic so what do I do ?
[14:34] <emerson> ?
[14:34] <payomeke> remove it
[14:35] <emerson> payomeke: that's not the case I wanna keep it.
[14:41] <DarkSmoke> configure: error: No linkable libasound was found
[14:41] <DarkSmoke> how am i gonna solve this error
[14:56] <rob> hello everybody
[14:58] <rob> I am using kubuntu 8.04. My taskbar at the bottom of the screen is either shrunk or hidden. How can I used the konsole to bring up system settings to adjust the taskbar back to normal
[15:00] <rob> anybody got any ideas?
[15:00] <nor_> rob: kcontrol
[15:01] <rob> i'll give it a try
[15:05] <rob> thank you very much...... it worked
[15:05] <rob> i appreciate it nor_
[15:06] <nor_> :)
[15:06] <rob> see ya'll later
[15:10] <paolo> ciao a tutti
[15:41] <amine> hello
[15:44] <noaXess> hello
[15:50] <apfer> ola a todos
[15:50] <apfer> :)
[15:50] <apfer> tão todos bem ou nem por isso?
[15:50] <ghostcube> !es | apfer :)
[15:51] <apfer> não sou espanhol
[15:51] <apfer> ghostcube és mesmo burro.. fogo
[15:51] <Tm_T> apfer: english please
[15:51] <apfer> I am not spanish
[15:52] <apfer> I am portuguese
[15:52] <ghostcube> !pt
[15:52] <ghostcube> heh
[15:52] <Tm_T> heh
[15:52] <ghostcube> sorry havent seen the pt
[15:52] <ghostcube> :D
[15:52] <apfer> but I don need help
[15:53] <apfer> *don´t
[15:55] <bergheim> In kde kcontrol, default applications, I've entered "firefox %s" in web browser -> in the following browser. However when I click a link, I get "firefox is already running, but is not responding. to open a new window, you must first close the existing firefox process, or restart your system". I've looked at firefox --help, but I don't see any arguments to use. How do I fix this?
[15:56] <apfer> não +percebnio
[15:56] <apfer> *não percebi
[15:56] <apfer> repeat please but in portuguese
[15:56] <Tm_T> apfer: sorry son, this is english (international) channel
[15:57] <apfer> but why english and not frensh or "espranto"?
[15:57] <Tm_T> because english is more widespread as "international language"
[15:58] <Tm_T> apfer: tai voisimmehan me kaikki puhua selkeää suomea eikä muuta hölmöä
[15:58] <apfer> but portuguese people discovered america
[15:58] <apfer> :P
[15:58] <apfer> the continet
[15:58] <apfer> *continent
[15:58] <bergheim> pft, norwegians did!
[15:58] <bergheim> crazy vikings
[15:58] <Tm_T> sorry guys, but americans did
[15:58] <faileas> the native americans did before they did ;p
[15:59] <Tm_T> ye, and that's offtopic and who cares about america anyway
[15:59] <apfer> really?
[16:00] <Tm_T> apfer: now, you have been instructed, behave, or leave, thanks (;)
[16:00] <apfer> what?
[16:00] <apfer> instructed is like.. learn and be smarter than I am now?
[16:01] <Tm_T> apfer: I told how the things goes
[16:01] <apfer> ok, dude
[16:01] <apfer> wazzup?
[16:02] <noaXess> is there any plan for interprid release?
[16:03] <noaXess> intrepid ^ :)
[16:03] <noaXess> will it be released with kde 4.2?
[16:05] <apfer> poor guy
[16:10] <apfer> english please
[16:10] <apfer> talk people
[16:10] <apfer> or I talk in portuguese
[16:11] <Tm_T> !intrepid | noaXess
[16:11] <apfer> helped?
[16:13] <noaXess> Tm_T: any idea, if there will be a direct upgrade from hardy ti intrepid?
[16:14] <Tm_T> noaXess: same way than always
[16:14] <Tm_T> means, yes
[16:14] <noaXess> okay
[16:14] <Tm_T> though it will be a much trickier
[16:14] <Tm_T> and I might be wrong once again
[16:14] <noaXess> and if i now have allready kde4.1.1 installed (.kde4) than it will be upgraded or what ever.. we hope ;)
[16:14] <Tm_T> yes
[16:22] <RickZilla> Just wondering, what would be the main reason I need kubuntu instead of ubuntu?  Couldn't find that answer in the FAQ's
[16:23] <ghostcube> u want the better de ?
[16:23] <ghostcube> rofl
[16:23] <Tm_T> RickZilla: have KDE as default
[16:23] <RickZilla> ok...I'm fairly new to linux
[16:24] <RickZilla> Is there a reason for KDE over Gnome, or is that like a Mac vs. PC thing?
[16:24] <JuJuBee> I know there is a tar trick to copy a a folder from one location to another while preserving file permissions/ownership
[16:24] <Tm_T> RickZilla: it's more like simplicity vs options
[16:24] <eyzee> hi!! any one pls tell me how to install win Xp OS with ubuntu as a default os
[16:24] <stdin> JuJuBee: cp -a
[16:25] <rodrigo> waw
[16:25] <JuJuBee> RickZilla : A MAC *IS* a PC.  PC = Personal Computer
[16:25] <JuJuBee> stdin : forgot that one...  Thanks
[16:25] <rodrigo> que es esto
[16:25] <stdin> !dualboot | eyzee
[16:25] <JuJuBee> RickZilla : but NO, it is personal preference
[16:26] <RickZilla> Ok...Mac vs. Microsoft
[16:26] <rodrigo> jajajajj
[16:26] <Tm_T> RickZilla: nah, nothing like that, really
[16:26] <rodrigo> i linux
[16:26] <RickZilla> I understand what you mean, though
[16:26] <eyzee> ubottu: ok
[16:26] <rodrigo> bay i not comprend
[16:26] <RickZilla> I ran ubuntu pretty successfully last night...just wanted to look at all my options before I settled on on distro
[16:26] <Tm_T> RickZilla: it's more like "convertible or muscle car" or "pink vs blue" or so, matter of bit different approaches to same thing
[16:26] <Tm_T> RickZilla: Kubuntu is Ubuntu
[16:27] <rodrigo> yes i kubuntu
[16:27] <Tm_T> rodrigo: habla espanol?
[16:27] <rodrigo> si
[16:27] <Tm_T> !es | rodrigo
[16:27] <rodrigo> yo hablo español
[16:28] <Tm_T> no, sorry (;)
[16:28] <rodrigo> ok gracias
[16:28] <RickZilla> :-) Thanks for the clarification, I do appreciate the answers to the questions that probably get asked 100's of times a day
[16:28] <rodrigo> thank you
[16:28] <Tm_T> RickZilla: yeh, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with bit different default applications
[16:29] <Tm_T> but both are eventually same
[16:31] <JuJuBee> RickZilla : install KDE also and play with both and decide... Have a look at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[16:37] <mdr> Wish to install 8.04.1   Will the desktop CD give me the option of repartioning my HD,  or do I need the alternate install CD?  Is there a noob install page which gives a checklist etc?
[16:41] <pipetux> hola
[16:43] <o0Chris0o> how do I isntall the latest pidgwin? the one thats not listed in the repository?
[16:47] <novacrasher> is there any programs for linux that allow you to watch and record tv thru your internet?
[16:50] <novacrasher> so I am new to this program and I don't know if I just type questions and stuff here or if I am supposed to join another group or something. any advice?
[16:51] <mdr>  Im downloading the install CD from http://www.kubuntu.org/  I hope this lets me repartition my HD.  How do I get the md5 sum?  Will the install check that?
[16:52] <noaXess> i have a skype tool to send sms over command line.. send_sms.py number text
[16:53] <noaXess> now, the text is in a file, how can i output the file for using the above command.. wiht echo, cat?
[16:54] <pipetux> aquien me puede mandar el canal para español?
[16:54] <noaXess> #kubuntu-es | pipetux
[16:55] <pipetux> gracias
[16:56] <stdin> noaXess: send_sms.py number $(cat filename.txt)
[16:58] <noaXess> stdin: thanks.. this works from command line.. but not from the script hooks in kaddressbook :(
[16:59] <noaXess> - /home/me/apps/send_sms.py '%N' $(cat %F)
[16:59] <noaXess> % F should be the temp file that kaddressbook create with the sms text
[16:59] <stdin> noaXess: probably because kaddressbook runs the command without a shell, for security
[16:59] <noaXess> hm..
[17:00] <noaXess> if i do send_sms.py %N %F it sends the tmp filename.. /tmp/kde-me/kaddressbookErdet.tmp
[17:00] <noaXess> as text :)
[17:00] <mdr> I am dowloading the (stable KDE 3) iso from http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download   How the heck to a check the iso?  The site doesn't give me the oppurtinity to download a md5 sum file.
[17:01] <genii> o0Chris0o: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=3140 has 2.5.1 debs of it (Pidgen)
[17:02] <o0Chris0o> ahh
[17:02] <o0Chris0o> following this right now http://jhcore.com/2007/06/04/install-pidgin-in-ubuntu/
[17:02] <o0Chris0o> ty tho :D
[17:02] <stdin> mdr: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/MD5SUMS
[17:04] <o0Chris0o> getdb good link to have I am taking
[17:05] <novacrasher> well I have given up on the tv thing but does anyone know how to use gmail to check a hotmail account?
[17:05] <o0Chris0o> hmm use gmail to check hotmail? I dont' think that is possible o.0
[17:06] <novacrasher> well that sucks. why not?
[17:07] <Tm_T> because you talk about web services that are both from totally different company and totally different way done
[17:07] <stdin> noaXess: I could probably modify the script to make it work...
[17:07] <novacrasher> yea true but there should still be a way. the old outlook express for windows used to be able to do it.
[17:08] <novacrasher> thanks stdin. I will dig around. maybe someone has already written a script to do just that.
[17:09] <noaXess> stdin: i'm on it :)
[17:11] <stdin> noaXess: done: http://pastebin.com/f2c9268d3
[17:11] <stdin> just add -f to the command to read from a file
[17:12] <thuanlove> hello
[17:12] <novacrasher> stdin: is this the code for checking hotmail with gmail?
[17:13] <genii> novacrasher: MythWeb is soon supposed to have support for streaming TV embedded within Flash. But I'm not sure this is what you were asking about
[17:13] <stdin> novacrasher: no, for sms with skype. if hotmail has the ability to forward emails then you can just set hotmail to forward to your gmail account
[17:14]  * genii hands stdin a coffee
[17:14] <noaXess> okay
[17:15] <novacrasher> thanks genil I will look into that
[17:15] <stdin> noaXess: so " /home/me/apps/send_sms.py -f '%N' '%F' " should be the command
[17:15] <stdin> and I'll send a patch to the original author
[17:19] <o0Chris0o_> how do I download libpurple0  from http://www.getdeb.net/release/3140 whenever I click to download it, it opens in kate
[17:20] <stdin> o0Chris0o_: right-click -> save as
[17:21] <luke__> ciao
[17:21] <o0Chris0o_> ahh save link ass
[17:21] <o0Chris0o_> oops
[17:21] <o0Chris0o_> as
[17:22] <o0Chris0o_> by any chance how would I install a deb from command line pidgin for example
[17:23] <stdin> you can use gdebi-kde or "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb", but gdebi will install the dependencies
[17:24] <benbread> Hey i'm connecting to internet through VPN with proxy but putting the proxy info into kubuntu system settings doesn't seem to be working (e.g adept can't download headers, ping doesn't work) - is there any better way i can see what is going on? thanks :)
[17:27] <benbread> No i take it back it's just adept, maybe it's blocked
[17:30] <o0Chris0o_> stdin: so I install gdebi-kde? or
[17:31] <stdin> o0Chris0o_: it should be pre-installed
[17:31] <o0Chris0o_> ahh its a command line command
[17:32] <stdin> you can start it from the command line, but it's a GUI
[17:33] <stdin> it *should* be associated with .deb files, but some servers say it's actually a text file (so kate opens it)
[17:33] <o0Chris0o_> hmm I tried it, but I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/49738/
[17:34] <stdin> o0Chris0o_: look at the window that opens
[17:34] <o0Chris0o_> its ablank window says error
[17:34] <stdin> you should run "gdebi-kde /path/to/file.deb"
[17:34] <o0Chris0o_> oh wait wrong folder
[17:36] <o0Chris0o_> hmm says package file doesn't exist
[17:36] <stdin> where did you save it?
[17:36] <o0Chris0o_> my desktop
[17:37] <o0Chris0o_> I'm in my ~/Desktop folder
[17:37] <stdin> and "ls" shows it?
[17:37] <o0Chris0o_> weird, no it doesnt....it just lists the libpurple0
[17:38] <stdin> ins't that what you're trying to install?
[17:39] <o0Chris0o_> well I downloaded 3 files from getdeb, to install the latest pidgin
[17:39] <o0Chris0o_> libpurple0 was one of them
[17:40] <stdin> o0Chris0o_: I guess you need to make sure they are all downloaded to the same place and install them
[17:41] <o0Chris0o_> they are thats the thing lol
[17:41] <stdin> then "ls" would show them
[17:42] <o0Chris0o_> I understand that, but I see them right on my desktop
[17:44] <gatita> hola
[17:44] <aswin> hi how do i upgrade my kubuntu  to interpidA6
[17:45] <gatita> irc://irc.ubuntu.com:6667/kubuntu-español
[17:45] <o0Chris0o_> !es
[17:45] <gatita> #kubuntu español
[17:46] <aswin> does anyone knows how to upgrade kubuntu to latest alpha version
[17:46] <stdin> !intrepid | aswin
[17:46] <aswin> yes interpid
[17:47] <stdin> ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:52] <o0Chris0o_> hmm ok I installed pigwin, but its not listed under "internet"
[17:58] <o0Chris0o_> any ideas
[18:03] <nor_> pigwin?
[18:10] <o0Chris0o_> lol
[18:10] <o0Chris0o_> pidgin I meant :D
[18:11] <noaXess> stdin: only shotr.. about send_sms.py.. try: IndentationError: expected an indented block
[18:11] <noaXess> i'm away no.. can you post it here and private so i see it later
[18:11] <noaXess> thanks
[18:26] <abhinav> hi can any one help me with sound on my system
[18:27] <abhinav> i have very less volume which is not at all audible on speakers and little audible on headphone
[18:29] <rickest> abhinav: run alsamixer in a console
[18:37] <abhinav> rickest: sorry , i got some problem so wasn't able to reply
[18:37] <xxx_> hola
[18:37] <rickest> np
[18:38] <abhinav> i tried alsamixer
[18:40] <abhinav> itried some process given on  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:40] <abhinav> little bit of volume that i was gettinsg also stopped coming
[18:41] <abhinav> any idea
[19:00] <carlos_> nas
[19:12] <fraktalek> hi
[19:12] <fraktalek> what is the name of the application in Kubuntu that performs distr. upgrades?
[19:12] <fraktalek> need to upgrade from Feisty to Hardy
[19:13] <Pici> !upgrade | fraktalek
[19:15] <sven__> I found an intrepid kubuntu bug for the "resize and rotate display" control pannel, this a good place to ask?
[19:16] <fraktalek> Pici ??
[19:16] <Pici> fraktalek: Did you read the link ubottu gave you?
[19:17] <fraktalek> Pici: yes
[19:17] <fraktalek> Pici: I already tried to do something along those lines
[19:17] <fraktalek> but the system doesn't have update-manager
[19:17] <compilerwriter> !dpkg
[19:17] <Pici> fraktalek: What version are you running?
[19:17] <fraktalek> 7.10
[19:17] <compilerwriter> !dpkg fix
[19:17] <fraktalek> no, sorry
[19:17] <fraktalek> 7.04
[19:18] <Pici> !aptfix | compilerwriter
[19:18] <compilerwriter> Thanks pici
[19:19] <Pici> fraktalek: You'll need to upgrade to 7.10 and then to 8.04.
[19:19] <Pici> fraktalek: start with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#Network%20upgrade%20for%20Kubuntu%20desktops%20(recommended)
[19:20] <fraktalek> Pici: yeah, I haven't noticed that at first, thanks
[19:21] <sean> Anyone here?
[19:22] <sito> yes
[19:22] <Guest22335> any good wireless management program for kubuntu?
[19:22] <sito> anybody is runing intrepid ibex with nvidia controler?
[19:22] <Guest22335> like a profile manager?
[19:23] <Pici> sito: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid/8.10 support/discussion.
[19:26] <JuJuBee> Guest22335 : I use knetworkmanager
[19:27] <JuJuBee> Manages WiFi and Wired.
[19:27] <Guest22335> thanks for your help
[19:28] <JuJuBee> np  we were all new once...
[19:32] <Faahl> I'm having a problem with kicker.  When I close something it'll stay in kicker.  It'll only get cleared from kicker when I open something new.
[19:56] <pipetux> español?
[19:57] <o0Chris0o_> I just instaleld the latest pidgwin 2.5.1 using gdebi-kde I got it from the getdeb website, I can't access pidgwin from the "internet" menu, any ideas?
[19:57] <o0Chris0o_> !es
[19:57] <novacrasher> does anyone know of a good program to use to make your windows maximize,minmize, and close all cool?
[19:57] <o0Chris0o_> !compiz
[19:58] <novacrasher> well I tried compiz but it gave me some issues. Sometimes when I booted it would not load correctly and I would have no access to any of my menus or keyboard
[19:58] <o0Chris0o_> there is emerald, kwin not sure of any others
[19:59] <novacrasher> well maybe I will try compiz again. Thanks!!!
[20:01] <xjohnthomasx> question: how does one install a precompiled executable in ubuntu? when i'm in the folder, and i ./program, the program works. how do i make it more easily accessible and executable to the whole system, without that manual command?
[20:03] <Deanr> Can anyone help my with Ubuntu's SLOW wan issue?
[20:03] <jussi01> xjohnthomasx: you add the executable to your path
[20:04] <jussi01> xjohnthomasx: like add it into /usr/bin/ and then its accessable anywhere.
[20:04] <Deanr> I got a max of 1MB over my network
[20:05] <Deanr> It's driving me crazy
[20:07] <Deanr> Someone
[20:08] <JuJuBee> I am using FF 3 on linux.  ALso using foxmarks to sync bookmarks.  I just started ff and my bookmarks are gone.  in ~/.mozilla/firefox/jt88v47q.default there is bookmarks.html and bookmarks.bak but they wont load.  ?  Any Ideas?  I also tried to impor tthe html file, no luck
[20:09] <Deanr> I had a similar issue.  Let me recheck my solution
[20:10] <Deanr> I think what i did was opened my bookmark backup file, and saved it as an html file.  at that point i was able to import it
[20:12] <JuJuBee> But my bookmarks.html file looks fine and I can view it in ff.
[20:12] <JuJuBee> diff shows no difference between files
[20:14] <JuJuBee> I cant even bookmark a new page.  When I try to organize bookmarks it shows empty and I cannot import either.
[20:15] <little> What are the properties of your current bookmark file?
[20:16] <JuJuBee> 644
[20:16] <JuJuBee> I own and group
[20:16] <JuJuBee> * I'm
[20:16] <little> What happens if you move the bookmark file out of the directory and try to bookmark a page?
[20:18] <JuJuBee> Nothing ... cant bookmark
[20:19] <JuJuBee> very strange behavior...
[20:19] <JuJuBee> Oh well, time for me to go...  I will work on it tomorrow...  Thanks anyway...
[20:19] <little> Good luck!
[20:23] <maria> hallo leute habe probleme mit compiz kann mich jemanden helfen?
[20:24] <genii> !de | maria
[20:25] <maria> ok danke
[20:29] <o0Chris0o_> how do I install the latest drivers for nvidia?
[20:34] <zabbadapp> process "mtd" has about 100% load, what does that mean?
[20:39] <asteroid_> hello
[20:39] <asteroid_> is Kunbuntu-8.04 LTS ?
[20:41] <genii> asteroid_: The short answer is No
[20:42] <avihayb> asteroid_:  according to http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/ubuntu-releases/, ubuntu 8.04.1 is LTS
[20:42] <asteroid_> right
[20:42] <asteroid_> yes or no
[20:43]  * asteroid_ take a coin, launch it
[20:43] <asteroid_> thx folks, see you
[20:44] <avihayb> I was getting to the kubuntu ubuntu part...
[20:45] <avihayb> oh, well
[20:47] <o0Chris0o_> I just instaleld the latest pidgwin 2.5.1 using gdebi-kde I got it from the getdeb website, I can't access pidgwin from the "internet" menu, any ideas?
[20:53] <rickest> o0Chris0o_: having come from an external site, that package may not include the KDE menu stuff.  You'll have to edit your KMenu manually and add it, presumably.  first see if your app works by just running 'pidgin' (pidgwin?) from a cmdline
[20:55] <Machtin> hi guys.. how can i resynchronize sound and picture of a movie? (the sound is played before the fitting part of the movie is)
[20:55] <Machtin> about 0.5 to 1s i'd say
[21:01] <o0Chris0o_> rickest: alright I'll try that
[21:02] <o0Chris0o_> nope:( says its not currently installed.
[21:06] <rickest> is it pidgwin or pidgin or what?
[21:06] <genii> It's Pidgin    formerly known as Gaim
[21:07] <rickest> I know about that one but he's either talking about something else or he's typo'd the same thing like 3 times
[21:07] <rickest> so I was just making sure
[21:07] <Daisuke_Ido> not to mention packages from getdeb aren't supported
[21:08] <o0Chris0o_> PIDGIN, if you were reading, I corrected myself awhile back :)
[21:11] <genii> o0Chris0o_: There were 3 downloads you needed off that site. The main one, then libpurple0 and also pidgin-data      You install the libpurple0 one first, then the pidgin-data one then the main one. The first two are pre-requisites
[21:11] <o0Chris0o_> yeah I already isntalled them using gedbi-kde but when I type pidgin nothing happens
[21:15] <rickest> o0Chris0o_: good luck, I'd help some more but apparently I need to go practice up on my reading skills
[21:15] <genii> o0Chris0o_: Put all three files into some folder on the desktop like for instance one named pidgin. Then in konsole go there with: cd ~/Desktop/pidgin             then manually try install with: sudo dpkg -i libpurple0_2.5.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb    then:  sudo dpkg -i pidgin-data_2.5.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb   and finally: sudo dpkg -i pidgin_2.5.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb
[21:16] <judgen> Anyone tried mozilla-qt?
[21:20] <o0Chris0o_> rickest: np since I typ'd the same thing like 3 times
[21:20] <o0Chris0o_> genii: I'll try that
[21:25] <Koordin> hi, how can i show hidden files in kde4.1 ? (dolphin 1.1)
[21:27] <o0Chris0o_> Koordin: in Dolopin  go to View and click on Show hidden files
[21:27] <o0Chris0o_> ahh 4.1 not sure
[21:27] <o0Chris0o_> genii: I get this when I do the libpurple0 first http://paste.ubuntu.com/49829/
[21:30] <genii> o0Chris0o_: try first: sudo apt-get install lesstif2        and then: sudo apt-get install libmozjs0d                    and then again with the sudo dpkg -i libpurple0_2.5.1-1~getdeb1_i386.deb
[21:30] <o0Chris0o_> alright  thanks
[21:31] <o0Chris0o_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:31] <o0Chris0o_>   libpurple0: Depends: libsilc-1.1-2 but it is not going to be installed
[21:32] <o0Chris0o_> nvm I think I got it
[21:33] <pipetux> quien me manda el español?
[21:33] <genii> !es
[21:34] <pipetux> gracias
[21:34] <o0Chris0o_> genii: Thanks! it works :D
[21:34] <o0Chris0o_> genii: how do you know which file to install first?
[21:34] <genii> o0Chris0o_: You should have it now on the Kmenu...Internet list
[21:35] <o0Chris0o_> Correct, I do
[21:35] <genii> o0Chris0o_: Trial and error, I did it myself earlier
[21:35] <o0Chris0o_> I see, thanks :D
[21:35] <genii> np
[21:36] <Daisuke_Ido> genii: if they're all in the same directory, i think dpkg -i * will do it
[21:36] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: Probably :)
[21:36] <notham> Has anyone installed on the ACER Aspire One?
[21:36] <o0Chris0o_> I'll remember that too when I install others
[21:37] <nielsslot> notham: i have
[21:38] <notham> On my friends system, the livecd didn't see the solidstate drive; is there something special that needs to be loaded?
[21:39] <nielsslot> no idea.. i installed it on the model with a hard drive
[21:39] <nielsslot> but this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne has almost everything you should know
[21:43] <chrisinajar> so kcachegrind tells me that i need to pass --dump-instr=yes to valgrind, but valgrind does not know that command
[21:45] <notham> thanks niesslot
[21:46] <notham> s/es/els/
[21:48] <k_wolf> hi there, guys ( nice job)
[21:49] <k_wolf> Well, is the edgy (kubuntu 6.10) repository working?
[21:51] <duarte> Hello all!
[21:54] <ReporterX> hello all!
[21:55] <genii> ReporterX: We saw you when you you were also named duarte
[21:55] <ReporterX> how do i setup kde pim 4 to read offline the msgs from a imap server ?
[21:56] <ubuntu__> Hi, my Kubuntu has Crashdown. I mount hdd by live CD but director Desktop is Locked. I have any files on Destop. Please Help:-)
[21:57] <k_wolf> ubuntu__: try chmod
[21:59] <lovre> one question
[21:59] <lovre> everything seemd to slow down, so i check cpu usage, and its constantly at 80%. Nothing is working, i dont know why this is so... ??
 thx man. I going to read man :-)
[22:00] <fzl> ok, I never used irc before :) but here goes..
[22:01] <fzl> i keep getting thrown off my home LAN and i used to be able to restart the connection throught the knetworkmanager menu
[22:01] <fzl> but i upgraded it to the svn in the launchpad repo and now it doesn't seem to do that
[22:02] <fzl> it soemetimes reconnects on its own which is better but sometimes not
[22:02] <fzl> I was wondering if there was an easy way of restarting networkmanager via command line
[22:06] <ubuntu__> chmod: changing permissions of `Desktop': Operation not permitted.
[22:08] <sadie_> you're all sadomazo
[22:11]  * dr_willis is mazosado
[22:12] <sadie_> this operation system is terrible
[22:12] <Tm_T> sadie_: erm?
[22:12] <dr_willis> sadie_,  and we care for your misstaken oponion  why?
[22:12] <Tm_T> dr_willis: please don't
[22:12] <dr_willis> Tm_T,  :)
[22:13] <dr_willis> Tm_T,  yea - i get sick of people spouting off  at times.
[22:13]  * dr_willis goes back to cooking supper.
[22:13] <Guest5100> this channel isn't here for you to complain Tm_T
[22:13] <sadie_> dr_willis cause of VPN
[22:13] <dr_willis> 'one' thing you are having issues with - makes the whole os Terrible.  - well with that logic, every OS is terrible I guess.. Time to check the porkchops.. bbl
[22:14] <Tm_T> Guest5100: erm?
[22:14] <sadie_> dr_willis anyway - it's PIZDEC nah
[22:15] <Tm_T> sadie_: see topic
[22:15] <Guest5100> sorry Tm_t. meant to say sadie_
[22:16] <sadie_> i can't breath freely
[22:16] <notham> Hey, are you guys familiar with a problem with K4 refusing to configure more than two desktops?
[22:16] <sadie_> notham ыыыыыы? 0_o
[22:18] <ReporterX> how do i setup kde pim 4 to read offline the msgs from a imap server ?
[22:18] <Tm_T> sadie_: have anything to say related to topic?
[22:19] <fzl> Hello nice people :) I have a problem with networkmanager
[22:19] <sadie_> Tm_T yep - i'm in trouble in trouble in trouble
[22:19] <Tm_T> sadie_: yes?
[22:19] <sadie_> Tm_T aga - yes
[22:20] <Glady> I m in trouble too
[22:20] <Tm_T> anyway, good night ->
[22:38] <wanted> hy all somvone no were can find an dc++ applicaton plz
[22:39] <dr_willis> !p2p
[22:46] <Machtin> hey.. how to synchronize audio and video stream of a movie?
[22:47] <judgen> wanted there is Valknut for KDE and dc_gui for gnome.
[22:49] <dr_willis> Machtin,  if they are a littel out of sync during playback. mplayer and others often have a delay setting/keys to  up/lower the delay
[22:53] <Machtin> dr_willis: do you by chance know whether kaffeine has such?
[22:53] <dr_willis> I never use kaffine. check its menus/docs/help file/key settings
[22:54] <dr_willis> i know mplayer does
[22:54] <spare_krutten_> Help.  Something in Kubuntu is overwriting my resolve.conf continously.  I updated System Setting->Network (as my ISP's DNS is down) but some other program appears to overwrite it as well.
[22:54] <Machtin> okay, thanks so far :)
[22:54] <dwidmann> spare_krutten_: yeah, it's supposed to do that .. forget why exactly. You need to edit this somewhere else.
[22:54] <dr_willis> spare_krutten_,  i recall some bug ages ago that cased that... but i  havent seen it mentioned in ages. I thought it got fixed.
[22:55] <dwidmann> spare_krutten_: I do believe resolv.conf is actually auto-generated
[22:55] <spare_krutten_> I currently have to type echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> >/etc/resolv.conf every minute to stay up.  was going to turn it into a cron job
[22:55] <dr_willis> spare_krutten_,  could just write protect the file. :)
[22:55] <dr_willis> but yea. theres some bug i recall with that.
[22:55] <spare_krutten_> NetworkManager used to update it, now something else is.
[22:55] <spare_krutten_> dr_willis: thats a good idea.
[23:00] <dwidmann> spare_krutten_: and the particular "somewhere else" I had in mind looks like /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[23:01] <dr_willis> you may want to check the forums - ive seen this bug befor. but dont rember the reason or the fix
[23:06] <spare_krutten_> it looks like 'prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>;' in dhclient.conf might work
[23:06] <panserbjorn>  heys guys i am having a real issue with havp for some reason, i cant update or download anything via synaptic or cli. here is the error i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/49854/
[23:29] <snude> hi
[23:29] <snude> is ACPI needed for composite?
[23:29] <snude> http://rafb.net/p/hTnjdv61.html  I cant get composite enabled.
[23:30] <snude> thats my xorg.conf and log file
[23:35] <dr_willis> snude,  i dont think so
[23:35] <snude> so why isnt this working?
[23:35] <dr_willis> No idea.
[23:36] <dr_willis> I do know that acpi is for powersaveing and other features of the bios. Shouldent have anything to do with video
[23:46] <Ramblurr> is there a mysql embedded package in the hardy repos?
[23:50] <rickest> no


[08:58] <kwwii> re
[19:30] <kooldude> hi
[19:34]  * _MMA_ waves.
[19:35] <kooldude> how are you people today
[19:36] <_MMA_> Quiet.
[19:36] <kooldude> k
[19:36] <_MMA_> Not much of a social channel.
[19:37] <kooldude> it's actualy a ubuntu working/nerdtalk channel
[19:38] <kooldude> but we socialize every now-and-then
[19:38] <thorwil> i thought it's a boring channel?
[19:38] <kooldude> not really...
[19:38] <thorwil> especially without troy
[19:39] <kooldude> once someone responds it gets interesting;-)
[19:39] <kooldude> here...
[19:39] <thorwil> i'm on the edge of my seat already
[19:39] <_MMA_> kooldude: You talk like you hang out in here? Who are you?
[19:40] <thorwil> _MMA_: the grasshopper is a veteran of ... i would guess a few days ;)
[19:40] <_MMA_> thorwil: Ahh...
[19:40] <kooldude> i am a 13-year-old that likes to create
[19:40] <kooldude> themes and artwork
[19:40] <kooldude> for ubuntu
[19:41] <kooldude> im trying to get my latest work on the newer version
[19:41] <kooldude> ill show you
[19:42] <_MMA_> kooldude: Please only Link me to things.
[19:42] <kooldude> k... srry
[19:42] <kooldude> ill bring you the link
[19:43] <_MMA_> Paste it in here.
[19:43] <kooldude> im in the prosess
[19:45] <kooldude> http://www.flickr.com/photos/16923078@N02/2655794027/
[19:45] <kooldude> im working on a dark theme
[19:46] <kooldude> here is the windows
[19:47] <_MMA_> Ok. Because that's just really a desktop shot with a Ayo wallpaper.
[19:48] <kooldude> actually i don't know how to let you try it
[19:49] <_MMA_> Show shots of Nautilus/Firefox.
[19:50] <_MMA_> Or install the-widget-factory ad that will show the various parts of a theme altogether.
[19:50] <kooldude> k
[19:50] <kooldude> i did
[19:51] <kooldude> http://www.flickr.com/photos/16923078@N02/2656621096/sizes/o/
[19:51] <kooldude> there
[19:52] <kooldude> but i changed it a little so
[19:52] <kooldude> ill send you 1 photo
[19:52] <geek_inn2> hi
[19:52] <geek_inn2> devels
[19:53] <geek_inn2> i have some wallpapers
[19:53] <geek_inn2> i created,so where can upload so that they get appreciation
[19:53] <_MMA_> kooldude: What is your goal here? To hang out and chat about art or contribute to the team? (used loosely)
[19:53] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: The wiki.
[19:53] <geek_inn2> i think my creation is good and enough 2 compete with others
[19:53] <_MMA_> 1 sec.
[19:53] <kooldude> my goal is contribute
[19:53] <geek_inn2> how its all confusing in wiki
[19:54] <geek_inn2> give me particular link
[19:54] <kooldude> ?
[19:54] <kooldude> who are you taking to
[19:54] <kooldude> me or the other
[19:55] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: Find a place under here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork or post links on the mailing list. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[19:55] <_MMA_> kooldude: Again, don't send me files.
[19:56] <kooldude> k
[19:58] <kooldude> i crashed
[19:58] <pwnguin> hey kooldude
[19:59] <pwnguin> fyi, this connection never leaves, barring network outages
[19:59] <kooldude> do you have remote desktop veier
[19:59] <thorwil> kooldude: i hope you still have all your teeth
[19:59] <kooldude> veiwer*
[19:59] <pwnguin> kooldude: so if you /msg me and I dont respond immediately, i'm probably sleeping, or making dinner, or watching a show
[20:00] <kooldude> i waited...
[20:00] <pwnguin> I do however, see them when i reconnect to screen
[20:00] <pwnguin> you left
[20:00] <kooldude> yeah.. because my sytem froze
[20:00] <pwnguin> not today
[20:00] <kooldude> i dont mean to be rude
[20:01] <pwnguin> a couple days ago
[20:01] <kooldude> ooohhhh... ok
[20:01] <kooldude> i had to go then however
[20:01] <kooldude> my mom told me to get off
[20:01] <kooldude> for then
[20:02] <pwnguin> well, all the /msgs and highlights sit on queue for me when i return
[20:02] <kooldude> srry
[20:02] <pwnguin> so if you've got anything important to ask, just ask and I'll try to get back on it
[20:02] <kooldude> k\
[20:02] <kooldude> i will do that
[20:02] <pwnguin> alternatively, just ask the channel; you can even find irc logs of all this
[20:02] <pwnguin> irclogs.ubuntu.com
[20:02] <kooldude> k
[20:03] <kooldude> kool
[20:03]  * pwnguin is sad
[20:03] <kooldude> now... do you have Remote Desktop Veiwer
[20:03] <pwnguin> I put out a request for help on the mailing list, and the only replies were to use a different font
[20:04] <pwnguin> I do
[20:04] <kooldude> k
[20:04] <kooldude> want to connect
[20:04] <kooldude> to mine
[20:04] <pwnguin> surely you're firewalled
[20:04] <kooldude> i yeah... but i can bypass it
[20:05] <kooldude> my dad created that acception
[20:05] <_MMA_> Man. That's damn trusting.
[20:05] <pwnguin> you can set up such things as view only
[20:05] <pwnguin> and you probably should before publishing connection info
[20:05] <kooldude> how
[20:05] <pwnguin> on ubuntu
[20:05] <pwnguin> ?
[20:06] <kooldude> to set up "veiw only"
[20:06] <pwnguin> system->preferences->remote desktop
[20:06] <pwnguin> general->sharing-> allow others to view your desktop
[20:06] <kooldude> k
[20:07] <pwnguin> then uncheck "allow others to control the desktop"
[20:07] <pwnguin> it occurs to me that the help dialog is not helpful, though it's trying very har
[20:07] <pwnguin> d
[20:08] <pwnguin> "Users can view your desktop by using this command: vncviewer localhost.localdomain:0
[20:08] <kooldude> here it is... ill wisper the access password to you
[20:08] <pwnguin> kooldude: then, under advanced make sure you click require encryption
[20:09] <kooldude> i did
[20:09] <kooldude> there
[20:10] <kooldude> my command is vncveiwer kooldude-desktop:0
[20:10] <pwnguin> not helpful
[20:10] <kooldude> ?
[20:10] <kooldude> try
[20:11] <pwnguin> that domain is only known to your computer
[20:11] <kooldude> right
[20:11] <pwnguin> not mine
[20:11] <kooldude> ip address then?
[20:12] <_MMA_> Guys. This really should be in PM.
[20:17] <geek_inn2> http://i33.tinypic.com/2re7gb8.png
[20:17] <geek_inn2> i dont know how to post them
[20:18] <pwnguin> what's that for?
[20:19] <pwnguin> a GNOME background or gdm?
[20:23] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: Im sorry but the pic is rather amateur. How the logo was cut out is really bad.
[20:23] <geek_inn2> background
[20:24] <pwnguin> geek_inn2: the logo has resolution problems =(
[20:24] <pwnguin> we have an svg
[20:24] <zerwas> geek_inn2, looks like you did it way too complicated how you cut out the ubuntu logo. you could use an SVG for that
[20:25] <zerwas> ^^"
[20:25] <geek_inn2> i have more
[20:26] <geek_inn2> i had logo in other file ,whats the best way to combine
[20:28] <kooldude> srry my connection went out
[20:28] <kooldude> im waiting on pwnguin
[20:28] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: Use any of these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[20:28] <geek_inn2> how to create GDM
[20:29] <geek_inn2> ok,there is one more back i have......http://i34.tinypic.com/28hidkj.png
[20:29] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: Best to grab one and look through it.
[20:29] <geek_inn2> ok,iam posting it on gnome-looks lets see what others say
[20:30] <pwnguin> geek_inn2: if you use layers
[20:30] <pwnguin> then it smusch easier to change things like the logo
[20:31] <geek_inn2> its average art??,only deviant have produced good work nobdy is really competent enough with my work,also its not amateur i created for high resolution only,but the logo seems to create nuisance
[20:32] <pwnguin> geek, im just saying it will look better with the svg loco in place
[20:32] <geek_inn2> did u check the other wall
[20:32] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: Yes. Very average. Im sorry. Even the average isnt good enough.
[20:32] <geek_inn2> ya i will get svg in next wall,by the way will it work great in ps
[20:33] <pwnguin> it should
[20:33] <pwnguin> if it doesnt then GIMP has a clear winning use case
[20:34] <kooldude> /whois kooldude
[20:34] <kooldude> hmmmm
[20:34] <pwnguin> without the funny ascii in front
[20:34] <kooldude> oh... of cource
[20:34] <geek_inn2> what ur saying is use official logo...@MMA
[20:35] <pwnguin> geek_inn2: in svg form, yes
[20:36] <geek_inn2> great thanks for link iam getting SVG now
[20:37] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: I'm saying more than that. The overall makeup of the pictures is bad.
[20:38] <geek_inn2> yaa
[20:38] <geek_inn2> maybe ur taste is bad
[20:38] <pwnguin> haha
[20:38] <_MMA_> I'm sorry. Nobody likes to hear it.
[20:38] <geek_inn2> thanks but no thanks...it wont hurt me ill make many more....hahaha
[20:38] <_MMA_> Great.
[20:39] <pwnguin> geek_inn2: make yourself a deviant art account or whatnot
[20:39] <geek_inn2> are u developer
[20:39] <pwnguin> then you can get long term storage
[20:39] <pwnguin> and maybe some feedback
[20:40] <geek_inn2> is it unofficial to edit ubuntu text....should keep it like that only?
[20:40] <geek_inn2> as graphic art....we do all kind of twist with text and graphics
[20:40] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: I am a developer. I guess its best to post to GNOME-Look.
[20:40] <geek_inn2> art work developer?
[20:40] <pwnguin> the circle of friends should be available without any text
[20:41] <geek_inn2> thankz penguin
[20:41] <geek_inn2> ur great man
[20:41] <geek_inn2> did u check my walls
[20:41] <geek_inn2> both?
[20:41] <pwnguin> I did
[20:41] <_MMA_> geek_inn2: Among other things.
[20:41] <geek_inn2> i thought so....
[20:42] <pwnguin> i think its not nice to declare people who dont like your wallpaper in bad taste
[20:42] <geek_inn2> well photoshop doesnt recognize SVG file
[20:42] <geek_inn2> great news
[20:43] <pwnguin> really?
[20:43] <geek_inn2> ya and its CS3
[20:43] <pwnguin> that doesnt seem right. it might be under import or something
[20:43] <_MMA_> pwnguin: Sorry you feel that way.  I'm happy to help people learn.
[20:43] <pwnguin> _MMA_: what?
[20:43] <geek_inn2> shine????,what u mean
[20:44] <pwnguin> my sentence appears to have been poorly constructed, let me try again
[20:44] <geek_inn2> well iam really learning see...starting from scratch 2 use ....unknown windows file format....SVG
[20:44] <pwnguin> geek_inn2: i think you're making a mistake by concluding critics of your work have no taste
[20:45] <_MMA_> pwnguin: "Shine people on" Tell then their work is good when it's not.
[20:45] <geek_inn2> well that was aptly said....he is critizing me and iam too criticizing his taste
[20:45] <geek_inn2> thats whole joke....
[20:46] <geek_inn2> i dont care about anybody's thou...i do just work
[20:47] <_MMA_> Great! :)
[22:33] <vadi2> Hi. On this page: 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/NewHumanTesting' it says 'Comments on the viability of using a dark theme do not belong here!'. Where do they belong?
[22:36] <_MMA_> vadi2: The mailing list I suppose.
[22:36] <vadi2> ok
[23:15] <zerwas> Is there any work going on in improving/changing the human icon theme?
[23:16] <_MMA_> zerwas: Just brainstorming atm.
[23:16] <zerwas> _MMA_, is there a place where i can read about it?
[23:16] <_MMA_> The mailing list.
[23:16] <_MMA_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[23:17] <zerwas> yes i am subscribed to it
[23:26] <zerwas> but i don't see brainstorming there ;-) ... i can't wait to see this theme finished http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=Tango-NG
[23:48] <zerwas> ah, there it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team


[08:26] <alocer> Hello, Can i ask questions regarding Landscape?
[08:30] <frickler> !ask
[08:33] <alocer> Oh yeah. sorry. Landscape is really Slow. Is somehting going on RN?
[13:32] <lucasmoura> Hi rbasak, thanks for the review on UA 27.9. The packages are already in the proposed queue. Let us know if you can approve then and we will start the testing on our side here
[13:39] <rbasak> ack
[18:05] <ahasenack> sergiodj: I'm feeling dumb, but for some reason apt on my jammy vm doesn't see the new sssd packages at https://launchpad.net/~sergiodj/+archive/ubuntu/sssd-bugfix/+packages
[18:05] <ahasenack> I triple-checked the versions, it should, but even apt-cache policy won't list the debs from the ppa
[18:05] <sergiodj> lemme check
[18:06] <ahasenack>  d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e                0 main/binary-amd64/Packages
[18:06] <ahasenack> from the InRelease fie
[18:06] <ahasenack> file*
[18:06] <ahasenack> maybe the LP publication failed due to recent outages?
[18:06] <sergiodj> ahasenack: hm, probably
[18:07] <sergiodj> I remember I had trouble uploading this package (and samba too)
[18:07] <sergiodj> let me upload ~ppa2
[18:08] <sergiodj> OK, ~ppa2 uploaded
[18:09] <sergiodj> LP was *really* messed up this weekend
[18:10] <ahasenack> yeah
[18:10] <ahasenack> maybe do the same for the focal one? Just in case? Unless you can check its InRelease file
[18:27] <sergiodj> ahasenack: I was able to install the Focal one, but I will upload another version just in case
[18:28] <ahasenack> sergiodj: I'm trying to create the  GptTpml.inf file by hand
[18:28] <ahasenack> from one of your bug comments
[18:28] <ahasenack> the "permissive" trick worked
[18:29] <sergiodj> yeah
[18:29] <ahasenack> but I'm trying this one now, also so I can later add some non-ascii chars to the file and see what happens
[18:29] <ahasenack> but that is not working
[18:29] <ahasenack> the path the file is supposed to reside in is a bit confusing
[18:29] <ahasenack> in the bug comment you have mkdir -p Microsoft/Windows\ NT/SecEdit/
[18:29] <ahasenack> but you don't cd into it, is that it? The directory must exist, but the inf file is in the parent?
[18:29] <sergiodj> let me see
[18:30] <ahasenack> I'm snooping the open() call, I don't see anything trying to open a file in sysvol
[18:30] <sergiodj> it was a mistake on my part, apparently.  you do need to cd into the directory
[18:31] <sergiodj> let me try to reproduce it here
[18:31] <ahasenack> and does it need to be 0640, 0600, or 0644, or something else?
[18:31] <ahasenack> I got 0640 by default
[18:31] <ahasenack> but posix acls are in play, ls lists the "+" character
[18:32] <sergiodj> I didn't have to fiddle with permissions, but I'd try 0644
[18:33] <sergiodj> did you remember to set ad_gpo_access_control to enforcing, just in case?
[18:34] <ahasenack> I removed it
[18:34] <ahasenack> but I think I found it, typo in the name of the inf file
[18:34] <ahasenack> mv GptTpml.inf GptTmpl.inf
[18:34] <ahasenack> now I have it inside the SecEdit dir, let's see
[18:34] <sergiodj> :)
[18:35] <ahasenack> 985    smbd               46   0 GptTmpl.inf
[18:35] <ahasenack> worked
[18:35] <ahasenack> login takes several seconds, something with dns probably
[18:36] <sergiodj> ahasenack: I've updated the comment and added the "cd" there
[18:42] <ahasenack> ok, got a file for the second bug
[18:42] <ahasenack> # cat ../../../../GPT.INI
[18:42] <ahasenack> [General]
[18:42] <ahasenack> Version=0
[18:42] <ahasenack> displayName=Cr�sher
[18:42] <ahasenack> added displayName
[18:43] <ahasenack> I can try with your 2.7.1 merge ppa
[18:43] <ahasenack> on k
[18:53] <sergiodj> ahasenack: did you send any messages?  for some reason my IRC client disconnected
[18:54] <ahasenack> some
[18:54] <sergiodj> last one I got was "now I have it inside the SecEdit dir, let's see"
[18:54] <ahasenack> got a gpt.ini file for the second bug, the one about non-ascii characters
[18:54] <sergiodj> ah, great
[18:55] <sergiodj> did the initial GptTmpl.inf work?
[18:55] <sergiodj> were you able to login with it?
[18:56] <ahasenack> the initial one worked
[18:56] <sergiodj> ah, great
[18:56] <ahasenack> the second one failed in kinetic, where I was expecting it to work
[18:57] <ahasenack> the GPT.INI with non-ascii
[18:57] <ahasenack>    *  (2022-06-20 18:55:40): [gpo_child[4380]] [copy_smb_file_to_gpo_cache] (0x0400): [RID#11] smb_uri: smb://sambadc.test.lan/sysvol/test.lan/Policies/{31B2F340-016D-11D2-945F-00C04FB984F9}/GPT.INI
[18:57] <ahasenack>    *  (2022-06-20 18:55:49): [gpo_child[4380]] [copy_smb_file_to_gpo_cache] (0x0020): [RID#11] smbc_getFunctionOpen failed [13][Permission denied]
[18:57] <ahasenack> weird that it got permission denied
[18:57] <sergiodj> yep, I'm getting the same error here on Jammy
[18:57] <ahasenack> kinetic has that second fix
[18:57] <sergiodj> that's what I was telling when my IRC dropped
[18:57] <sergiodj> I can't make the GptTmpl.inf trick work on Jammy
[18:57] <ahasenack> that file is full of posix acls
[18:58] <sergiodj> yeah
[18:58] <ahasenack> NT Authority, enterprise admins, etc
[18:58] <ahasenack> let me remove the á
[18:58] <sergiodj> ok
[18:58] <sergiodj> btw, I will reboot my server here, brb
[18:59] <ahasenack> sill failed
[18:59] <ahasenack> when you come back, what's your GPT.INI? Mine is
[18:59] <ahasenack> -rwxrwx---+ 1 TEST\domain admins TEST\domain admins       22 Jun 20 18:58 GPT.INI*
[18:59] <sergiodj> done
[19:04] <ahasenack> ah, forgot to update sssd to 2.7.1
[19:04] <ahasenack> in k
[19:06] <sergiodj> well
[19:06] <sergiodj> ahasenack: would you like to file a new bug for the non-ansi problem or should I?
[19:06] <ahasenack> let me get a test case
[19:06] <sergiodj> ok
[19:07] <sergiodj> I'm working on that samba bug now
[19:11] <ahasenack> 2.7.1 from kinetic supposedly has all patches
[19:12] <sergiodj> yes, the one I uploaded today
[19:13] <ahasenack> I'm getting this weird permission denied
[19:13] <ahasenack> on the GPT.INI file
[19:13] <ahasenack> maybe it s best if I start from scratch
[19:13] <sergiodj> OK, let me just finish something here and I'll take a look at this
[19:13] <ahasenack> these samba/sssd bugs take so long to troubleshoot
[19:14] <sergiodj> yes :)
[19:17] <sergiodj> I was able to reduce the test plan for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/samba/+bug/1977491 by quite a bit
[19:17] <sergiodj> ok, back to sssd now
[20:25] <kanashiro> ahasenack, I updated the haproxy MP addressing your comments
[20:25] <ahasenack> k


[15:27] <Guest68807> hey guys, is thtere a good "getting started" tutorial?
[18:04] <johnf1911> please forgive this #mythtv-users cross post
[18:05] <johnf1911> Yesterday I upgraded my ubuntu backend machine to 12.04
[18:05] <johnf1911> I'm using a HD-PVR capture card, it's also used as an IR blaster
[18:05] <johnf1911> I used to have the blaster working properly, now I'm getting errors
[18:06] <johnf1911> here is a bit more detailed console output: http://pastie.org/4646875
[18:06] <Zinn> [pastie.org] #4646875 - Pastie
[18:06] <johnf1911> I'd welcome any suggestions on what I can do to get the transmitter to function properly