[06:27] <robert__> ok, thanks man!
[06:27] <thor> bulmer: might be a difference since suse defines 'root' in the install
[06:28] <thor> arnuld: try entering a passwd using lppasswd
[06:28] <bulmer> thor-> lppasswd is only for CUPS
[06:28] <threefcata> allnightarockin: i did it, now my local area connection have ICS enabled, but i doubt i have to add something like gateway or dns on my ubuntu, i don't if that's needed coz i read something like when you have ICS enabled DHCP is also enabled but i don't get DHCP, so i manually configure things except gateway and dns
[06:28] <sleepercivic88> robert: when I use it I have to mess with the interlace options in the gui so it looks good
[06:28] <ianmcorvidae> niuq: install the package telnetd; that is a telnet server
[06:28] <arnuld> thor: user -> "root"  & passwd -> "lppasswd"
[06:28] <arnuld> thor: ?
[06:28] <firefly2442> How can I list available computers on the workgroup in samba using the commandline?
[06:29] <niuq> ianmcorvidae: already did
[06:29] <thor> arnuld: that should work
[06:29] <allnightarockin> threefcata yeah if what you just said doesnt work just change it to automatic dchp configuration?
[06:29] <thor> arnuld: check 'man lppasswd'...always a good idea before using a new command
[06:29] <allnightarockin> threefcata i would think atleast
[06:30] <bulmer> firefly2442-> i believe samba commands starts with smb...so type smb and press tab twice to see all smb related commands
[06:30] <arnuld> thor: MAN page says, lppasswd ADDS, CHANGES or DELETES the password in CUPS digest file :(
[06:30] <bulmer> firefly2442-> if not, windows uses  "net use xxx" command style
[06:31] <arnuld> thor: DIGEST usernames do not have to match the local UNIX usernames
[06:31] <arnuld> thor: what that means ?
[06:31] <arnuld> thor: let me try printer 1st
[06:31] <firefly2442> bulmer: the weird thing is I can ping the remote machine but I can't connect to it
[06:32] <firefly2442> I checked the workgroup in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file and it checks out
[06:32] <thor> arnuld: you can create users for cups that don't exist in linux...only in cups
[06:32] <threefcata> allnightarockin: very true. and Network Manager is causing confusion as well, it is said now NM only manages those interfaces marked with auto or not appear in /etc/network/interfaces but i have all my interfaces in that file both marked auto AND manually configured..I the roaming mode of those interfaces are confusing as well..
[06:32] <threefcata> allnightarockin:i 'm running feisty
[06:32] <bulmer> firefly2442-> you need to get authenticated on a domain to make a complete connection
[06:33] <arnuld> thor: that "lppasswd" thing does not work >:-D
[06:33] <slliness> how do I tell if I used the right install disc (e.g. amd64 vs i386) the box has amd64 and I can't remember which disc I used.
[06:33] <allnightarockin> threefcata: I really am not sure what u mean.. i would suggest starting a thread if the problem proceeds?
[06:34] <thor> arnuld 'lppasswd -a root' and enter the root password when prompted
[06:34] <firefly2442> bulmer: do you know if there is a way to manually specify the IP address of the domain computer? (windows box)
[06:34] <threefcata> allnightarockin: yeah, maybe.. we'll see...
[06:35] <MetalGear247> is there a defragmenter for ubuntu 7.1?
[06:35] <bulmer> firefly2442-> yeah type the numerics
[06:35] <thor> MetalGear247 the linux file system does not require defragmenting
[06:35] <MetalGear247> do u minde explaining why that the case?
[06:35] <MetalGear247> that doesnt make sense
[06:36] <firefly2442> bulmer: sorry, I'm confused, can you be more specific?
[06:37] <arnuld> thor: sorry, password rejected, it must be 6 characters long,, WTF, my root passwrd is 5 chars, then so WHAT ?
[06:37] <darkentity> does anybody know if theres a GUI program for making iso's out of discs??
[06:37] <bulmer> firefly2442-> im confused too, what command are you referring to?
[06:37] <arnuld> darkentity: dd  if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[06:37] <viro> ***Error***: some autoconf macros required to build avant-panel-menu
[06:37] <viro>   were not found in your aclocal path, or some forbidden
[06:37] <viro>   macros were found.  Perhaps you need to adjust your
[06:37] <viro>   ACLOCAL_FLAGS?
[06:37] <arnuld> darkentity: simple as that, why need a GUI
[06:37] <allnightarockin> MetalGear: linux defrags itself automatically
[06:37] <viro> any idea what this is about?
[06:38] <thor> arnuld then use a longer password...it doesn't have to be the same one in both places you can use a different password
[06:38] <firefly2442> bulmer: well, if I need to add the domain computer, can I specify it with an IP address? it doesn't seem to be finding it automatically
[06:38] <Agent_bob> darkentity just about any gui burning app can make an iso
[06:38] <vladtzu> Is there a program to view .chm files?
[06:38] <darkentity> i see... arnuld does that work with dvds too?
[06:38] <arnuld> Agent_bob: darkentity can even use "mkisofs"
[06:38] <arnuld> darkentity: sure
[06:39] <Agent_bob> arnuld he did specify GUI tho
[06:39] <darkentity> ok thanks guys
[06:39] <SanketMedhi> hello
[06:39] <darkentity> ima try it out
[06:39] <slliness> anyone?\
[06:39] <bulmer> firefly2442-> what is the command you are using?
[06:39] <arnuld> Agent_bob: well, I do not see any usefull of GUI specific to this ISO making
[06:39] <SanketMedhi> I am facing some problems connecting to the Internet on my wireless adapter Broadcom 4328, help anyone
[06:39] <Primax> k3b burn progarm
[06:40] <Agent_bob> i agree,  i just try to give what they ask for arnuld
[06:40] <firefly2442> I was using smbtree -S and this lists the computers, I have one machine working and another one doesn't work
[06:40] <Agent_bob> definitely dd is the way to do that.
[06:40] <arnuld> Agent_bob: yes and I prefer to give solid thiings, GUIs are never good at error reporting. in the end you need to read"/var/log/" directory ;-)
[06:40] <darkentity> agent bob...what specific program do u know of that makes iso?  do u think the regular dvd/cd writer on ubuntu has that option
[06:41] <darkentity> the commnad works arnuld thanks
[06:41] <Agent_bob> darkentity xcdroast k3b gnometoaster and others i'm sure.
[06:41] <arnuld> darkentity: try to search/hang-on Gentoo forums for immense amount of knowledge :)
[06:42] <darkentity> thanks guys
[06:42] <arnuld> darkentity:  I will leave now
[06:42] <darkentity> ok gnite
[06:42] <arnuld> thor: thanks
[06:42] <Agent_bob> darkentity clone copy and make iso only  with any GUI app.    but  dd is the bottom line on coping disks
[06:42]  * arnuld thanks Thoro
[06:42] <arnuld> for his help
[06:43] <thor> arnuld: did you get it all to work>
[06:43] <arnuld> thor: nope :(
[06:43] <thor> arnuld: did you get the lppasswd defined?
[06:43] <arnuld> Agent_bob: as I said, for files on HDD he could use mkisofs
[06:44] <arnuld> thor: yes, i did set a passwd, but then what to do next ?
[06:44] <Agent_bob> arnuld and as i said   yep        return 0
[06:44] <thor> arnuld now go back to cups (localhost:631) and when it asks for username/password use 'root' and the password you defined with lppasswd
[06:45] <vasuvi> Ubuntu has been hanging a lot lately; hanging to the point I have to restart the entire computer.  When it's happened, the only applications open (other than normal GNOME stuff) were Firefox and GNOME Terminal.  Is there any way to tell whether the hangs were caused by Firefox or by the Ubuntu base system?
[06:45] <bulmer> i got disconnected
[06:45] <vee_> when I installed I did not give any room for swap - is that ok or should reinstall? I have 4 gbs of RAM
[06:45] <SanketMedhi> Help with wlan problem anyone?
[06:46] <thor> vasuvi: your best bet would be to start firefox and terminal each in a terminal, that way any errors should show up in the terminal where you started the app
[06:46] <bulmer> vasuvi it happens to me quite often now, because of i/o ..wireless hangs
[06:46] <arnuld> thor: it does NOT work >:\
[06:46] <arnuld> Agent_bob: return EXIT_SUCCESS :P
[06:46] <dadehoog> vasuvi: It depends ... what exactly do you mean by hanging ? No response from any part of the system ? Could you access a TTY by pressing Alt-F1 ?
[06:46] <vasuvi> thor: opening it in a terminal wouldn't help much with a hang ;)  I can move the mouse, but nothing else is responsive
[06:47] <thor> vasuvi, but if you have the terminal open in a corner, you would still be able to read it even if you couldn't click on it or anyhthing
[06:47] <vasuvi> dadehoog: first thing I tried; no go.  though strangely, the Alt-Sysreq-RSEIUB method of rebooting works fine
[06:47] <Agent_bob> vasuvi maybe    alt+sysRQ+r then alt+sysRQ+e    if that responds it's an app   if not it's kernel level   i/o  maybe.
[06:47] <thor> vasuvi: it would only be a way to possibly see an error indication for the hangup
[06:47] <vasuvi> thor: that's a possibility, at least if stuff really is responding, though at this point I'd doubt it
[06:47] <niuq> i need help enabling telnet server
[06:47] <dadehoog> vasuvi: indeed ... anything in X.logs ?
[06:47] <arnuld> niuq: you better use SSH than telnet.
[06:47] <dadehoog> niuq: are you sure that you want to enable telnet ? What about SSH instead ?
[06:48] <Agent_bob> vasuvi note that will kill everything.   so probably  ctrl+alt+del for a restart afterwards.
[06:48] <bulmer> vasuvi i can emphatize with you, i have been experiencing this i/o hanging lately after an upgrade
[06:48] <arnuld> niuq: Telnet send its username-paswd information all over the internet
[06:48] <niuq> dadehoog: it's just for a lab
[06:48] <thor> Agent_bob that is I think the FIRST reference to the sysreq key that Ihave seen since the 70's <smile>
[06:48] <vasuvi> dadehoog: that's the odd part; I'd been getting weird stuff from Sidux, and the X logs were indeed screwy.  Here, the X logs look just fine
[06:48] <niuq> arnuld: i'm not going to send it over internet, just will work on a lan
[06:48] <dadehoog> Sidux ?
[06:48] <vasuvi> dadehoog: (using proprietary nVidia drivers if that makes any difference)
[06:49] <drgeb> hi everyone I finally got Ubuntu Installed. Now when my system boots up I see all the info of booting by changing to terminal interface 7. How come is this info not saved into a log file ?
[06:49] <arnuld> niuq: then it will send the information over to every user on LAN. doyou want that ?
[06:49] <Agent_bob> niuq why not use ssh ?
[06:49] <vee_> do you need swap at all?
[06:49] <arnuld> niuq: use SSH, the OpenBSD Secure Shell
[06:49] <vasuvi> dadehoog: a distrobution that pretty closely follows Debian Sid, and tries to "sanitize" it somewhat ;http://sidux.com/index.html
[06:49] <niuq> arnuld: yes it's not an issue, it's just for a lab
[06:49] <dadehoog> vasuvi: I've been getting similar lock-ups - but I don't know what's causing them ...
[06:49] <Agent_bob> vee for hybernate only
[06:49] <arnuld> niuq: I was juts trying to teach some good UNIX habits :)
[06:49] <niuq> Agent_bob: because it's for a lab, and the lab just request to enable telnet
[06:49] <vasuvi> dadehoog: and started just recently for you too?
[06:49] <dadehoog> I'm using the open source ATI drivers (radeon)
[06:50] <dadehoog> I only installed Gutsy three days ago ...
[06:50] <Agent_bob> niuq ok.
[06:50] <vasuvi> dadehoog: so that means video drivers probably aren't the culprit here like on Sidux
[06:50] <dadehoog> but I've never has similar issues before
[06:50] <vasuvi> very odd
[06:50] <vee_> Agent_bob  errr.... in didnt set up my machine with any... should reinstall? how much do you need?
[06:50] <vasuvi> and me neither
[06:50] <arnuld> I will leave
[06:50] <arnuld> now
[06:50] <Agent_bob> niuq install telnetd - The telnet server  should enable it
[06:50] <vasuvi> dadehoog: do you also use Firefox, and with lots of extensions?
[06:50] <niuq> arnuld: i appreciate it
[06:50]  * arnuld says final thanks thor
[06:51] <niuq> Agent_bob: already did, didn't work
[06:51] <dadehoog> vasuvi: I use firefox, but I've not enabled anything that isn't in the standard Ubuntu install
[06:51] <drgeb> do I need to install bootlog daemon to get boot logs ???
[06:51] <vasuvi> dadehoog: so it's probably not an extension thing
[06:51] <Agent_bob> niuq i'v never used telnetd  but the man page should be forth comming on howto
[06:52] <bulmer> niuq-> you can use nc  to create a temporary listening server..i forget the options how to do it though
[06:52] <dadehoog> niuq: Indeed, you'll probably want to configure xinetd to handle incoming telnet traffic ...
[06:52] <vee_> Agent_bob how much do you need?
[06:52] <vasuvi> dadehoog: I think we've narrowed it down to being either the vanilla Firefox running into an infinite loop or something, or something in the Ubuntu base system.  Hopefully the former as it *should* be easier to find and fix.
[06:53] <djangelo> im having troubles with "ccsm" could somebody help me?
[06:53] <dadehoog> vasuvi: I've had crashes where firefox _isn't_ running ...
[06:53] <vasuvi> dadehoog: I think we've narrowed it down to being either the vanilla Firefox running into an infinite loop or something, or something in the Ubuntu base system.  Hopefully the former as it *should* be easier to find and fix.
[06:53] <niuq> dadhoog: ok that's a start point
[06:53] <Agent_bob> vee_ ram size plus one
[06:53] <vasuvi> sorry for repeat
[06:53] <niuq> bulmer: what nc stands for?
[06:53] <vasuvi> dadehoog: so then it's probably in the Ubuntu base system, ugh
[06:53] <dadehoog> niuq: netcat
[06:53] <bulmer> niuq  netcat
[06:53] <Agent_bob> vee_ it writes the entire ram to disk if i understand it correctly
[06:53] <dadehoog> vasuvi: Indeed ... likely the snazzy 3d graphics special effects stuff ...
[06:54] <vee_> Agent_bob i have 4gigs. do i make it 8gigs?
[06:54] <Agent_bob> vee_ no.  4.1g
[06:54] <vasuvi> dadehoog: hmm; that would be easy enough to test by simply disabling Compiz.  that's not a bad idea
[06:54] <niuq> bulmer: i'll try the man page for netcat
[06:54] <vee_> Agent_bob hehehe, thanx... do I have to write that in mb when it asks?
[06:55] <d03boy> i need to quickly run a dhcp server. im on dapper. what do I do?
[06:55] <vasuvi> dadehoog: any other hardware similarities between us?  P35 motherboard with AHCI hard drives and an Audigy 2 ZS here.
[06:55] <niuq> dadehoog: should i have a telnet package over xineted directory, shouldn't i?
[06:55] <Agent_bob> vee_ i've not used the new installer  but with the older ones no.
[06:55] <niuq> dadehoog: xinetd**
[06:55] <Darius08x> Hello, it's been forever and a half since I've installed ubuntu. And I'm not exactly that great with computers. I'm setting up ubuntu 7.10 desktop version and I'm creating a partition now, I'm using 150 GB of my 300 HD, but I was wondering What type of partiton should it be, primary, or logical, should it be located at the beginning or end. And what should I use it as. Ext3?
[06:55] <dadehoog> IBM Thinkpad T42 (Intel-based Centrino system)
[06:55] <vee_> Agent_bob i can just write 4.1gb
[06:56] <Agent_bob> vee_ it will be in gparted at the time and if you have ever used that you can anticipate what to expect
[06:56] <dadehoog> niuq: SOry ?
[06:56] <dadehoog> *Sorry ?
[06:56] <darkentity> ubuntu is cool and everything but it needs some major development.  im glad they finally fixed the limewire problem i could play the files right off limewire
[06:56] <vee_> Agent_bob thanx
[06:56] <Agent_bob> vee_ yes or just use the slider until the size is right
[06:56] <darkentity> but the videos are another story they skip when i fast foward
[06:56] <niuq> dadehoog: i though i had to configure a file called telnet, just like in red hat
[06:56] <Agent_bob> vee_ welcome
[06:56] <darkentity> some vidoes dont even show the sliders properly they just stay in one place
[06:57] <dadehoog> Darius08x: You'll need two partitions (one swap and one /) Both can be primary partitions
[06:57] <vasuvi> dadehoog: or for a more complete listing: http://www.pastebin.ca/807111
[06:57] <vee_> Agent_bob good stuff... i am going to reinstall tomorrow. for a second HD should i have it mount point in /media or /mnt?
[06:57] <dadehoog> the swap partition needs to be swap, and the / mounted partition can be ext2 or ext3, I'd recommend ext3
[06:57] <Agent_bob> dadehoog need ?   it's reccomended.
[06:57] <BernieMac> Darius08x: Yes make the format ext3, or FAT32 if you choose, as far as location of partition, I'm not sure if it matters, someone else will have to answer that...
[06:58] <vasuvi> dadehoog: so probably not too many similarities...
[06:58] <vasuvi> dadehoog: that would at least tend to rule out hardware (I think)
[06:58] <dadehoog> Agent_bob: Indeed ..? I'm obviously behind the times !
[06:58] <darkentity> but i hoep in due time they fix that problem. its still great program...plus i wish they could include all those porgrams to customize the gdm, splash and mouse cursor themes.
[06:58] <dadehoog> vasuvi: It's got to be software-related ... and in a common package ...
[06:58] <Darius08x> Haha, I think I've only confused myself further by asking that question.
[06:58] <dadehoog> vasuvi: are you using 3d acceleration ?
[06:59] <Darius08x> So I should just make on, 150 GB, have it used as "swap" and then hit ok
[06:59] <dadehoog> vasuvi: and have you enabled compiz / special effects etc ?
[06:59] <niuq> dadehoog: i think it did not make any sense
[06:59] <vasuvi> dadehoog: yup.  (Centrino implies Dothan, right?)
[06:59] <Darius08x> then make another one (how big?) and make it / ?
[06:59] <BernieMac> Darius08x: the Ubuntu installer should come with a partitioner which knows what to do
[06:59] <vasuvi> dadehoog: indeed; I have Compiz on
[06:59] <Agent_bob> vee_ you can mount any fs just about anywhere,  there are limitations such as using non-linux fs's in critical places / for example. wont work   but if you are talking about storage media   /mnt or /media  or /home/your.name/storage   or what ever.
[06:59] <dadehoog> vasuvi: my CPU is pre-Dothan, but still Centrino
[06:59] <thor> Darius08x give serious consideration to three partitions...one for /, one for /home, and one for swap
[07:00] <dadehoog> Darius08x: sounds like I'm behind the times ... perhaps Agent_bob could point you to the current install docs ?
[07:00] <vasuvi> dadehoog: ok, so definitely no similarities there (a late Centrino 2 Duo could theoretically be the mobile eqiuivelent of P35-based)
[07:00] <vasuvi> dadehoog: ok, so disabling Compiz now; we'll see how that works
[07:00] <thor> Darius08x with that kind of disk space I would leave 15-20G for /, maybe 2G for swap (2x ram) and the rest for /home
[07:00] <vee_> Agent_bob i want the second HD to be able to be shared by all users
[07:01] <vasuvi> dadehoog: though if it really is Compiz, I'm surprised everybody else isn't also running into these problems
[07:01] <niuq> dadehoog: mmm not sure what's happening, maybe you can help me installing ssh
[07:01] <Agent_bob> the old "swap needs to be 2X your ram"  should have died long ago   when ram went above 16m
[07:02] <Agent_bob> vee_ /mnt is a good place for that.
[07:02] <Darius08x> I think this comes with a guided install thing, that automatically does this for me. If I use that, and choose to install windows later (to dual boot) Will I be SOL, or will I still be able to do it?
[07:02] <Skiz> I leave a gig for shits a giggles thats about it depending on the amount of ram
[07:02] <vee_> Agent_bob thanx again
[07:02] <glick> excuse me, i just installed ubuntu gibbon, however i dont seem to have spticya
[07:02] <Agent_bob> vee_ so is /media/<something>
[07:02] <glick> synaptic
[07:02] <glick> when i click on synaptic from system-admin
[07:02] <glick> nothin comes up
[07:02] <Skiz> but if you are running something like jedit.... lol
[07:03] <BernieMac> Darius08x, typically you want to install windows first(or so the story goes), something to do with the GRUB loader I believe. this is the way I did it and no problems...
[07:03] <vee_> Agent_bob currently its in media.... just didnt know if there was an advantage to it or it wAs merely cosmetic
[07:03] <Agent_bob> vee_ cosmetic
[07:03] <glick> sudo apt-get upgrade doenst seem to work either
[07:03] <thor> Darius08x BernieMac is correct...you need to install windows first
[07:03] <vee_> Agent_bob thanx
[07:03] <ere4si> glick: in a terminal type  -   sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:03] <Agent_bob> vee_ welcome
[07:03] <Darius08x> Ok, well, I was here last night with all tons of problems. I had windows installed, and it had been giving me random missingsystem32 file errors.
[07:04] <Darius08x> So I went to install ubuntu, only to get a dead device error or something like that.
[07:04] <dadehoog> vasuvi: ah joy ... that was one of those random lockups that we're discussing !
[07:04] <Darius08x> Then i got GRUB 17 and 18 errors
[07:04] <glick> nothing happens when i type that
[07:04] <thor> Darius08x sounds like there is something else going on not related to either...maybe a hw problem?
[07:04] <Darius08x> then the partitioner couldn't locate any discs or what not.
[07:04] <vasuvi> dadehoog: ouch, that sucks
[07:04] <Darius08x> Neither could Windows.
[07:04] <AMedic> Hi
[07:05] <glick> did the install b0rk?
[07:05] <glick> do i need to log out and log back in?
[07:05] <dadehoog> all I did was move from one screen to the other ...
[07:05] <AMedic> I would like to ask an admin a question
[07:05] <vasuvi> dadehoog: if you didn't get it before it locked up, I said that I disabled Compiz and will see if the lockups stop
[07:05] <Darius08x> A friend of mine suggested I run something call Dban overnight (which I think just ultra-formatted my HDD) and it may detect it again
[07:05] <Agent_bob> Darius08x what you are describing sounds like loose connection on either the ide or power cable to the drive
[07:05] <Darius08x> Which it is now.
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> AMedic: go ahead they are near
[07:05] <AMedic> Ok
[07:05] <Darius08x> I took apart the case and checked all cables Bob. :/
[07:06] <ere4si> glick: I saw something about this earlier - brb
[07:06] <Agent_bob> Darius08x that's still what it sounds like.
[07:06] <Darius08x> Hmm.
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Darius08x: did you check all jumpers if ide drives.
[07:06] <vee_> bye all:::
[07:06] <glick> hmm :(
[07:07] <Darius08x> Also, to let you all know, I'm in above me head here. I have no idea what you just said Jack. : D
[07:07] <qwerty121> Howdy! Anyone has some help for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632957
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Darius08x: do you have ide or sata drives.. ide big ribbon cable plus power cable
[07:07] <Darius08x> Sata
[07:07] <vasuvi> dadehoog: running any taskbar applets?  I have sensors-applet, timer-applet, and Tomboy running
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Darius08x: ok, so no jumpers
[07:08] <vasuvi> dadehoog: (just trying to think if any non-default programs may be causing this)
[07:08] <dadehoog> vasuvi: system-monitor ... but only so that I can verify when it's locked up, and when it hasn't !
[07:08] <dadehoog> vasuvi: it was definitely locking up _before_ that applet was added.
[07:08] <ere4si> glick: type  -  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install synaptic   - and see what happens
[07:08] <vasuvi> dadehoog: ok, so that eliminates that at least :)
[07:08] <dadehoog> compiz or network-manager are my two top tips ...
[07:09] <Agent_bob> Darius08x on some hard drives there are "jumpers" that allow you to select whether it will be listed as "master" or "slave"  as well as some times other settings.   he sujested that you check those too,   i.e. if an hd is set to master and on the same cable a cd/dvd drove is set to master    then you have problems.
[07:09] <vasuvi> dadehoog: (and I don't have system-monitor running anyway)
[07:09] <BernieMac> qwerty121, no idea! might want to try the #Ubuntu-effects chat(or another chat) for that...
[07:09] <glick> ere4si: when i type that nothing happens i just get the prompt right back
[07:09] <vasuvi> dadehoog: so indeed, lower-level GNOME stuff and Compiz seem to be the only things left
[07:09] <Darius08x> Ok, and I'd check that out in the BIOS I'm assuming. I'm currently installing windows like you suggested, so I guess I'll wait for that.
[07:10] <lirit> can i use mouse gesture to switch desktop?
[07:10] <glick> maybe i should restart?
[07:10] <qwerty121> BernieMac: it's driving me nuts. Can't maximize anything
[07:10] <Darius08x> Thanks for the help. I'm sure I'll be back asking questions again in no time.
[07:10] <glick> brb let me try and restart
[07:10] <vasuvi> dadehoog: (well, theoretically MySQL or Python, but those seem exceedingly unlikely)
[07:10] <Agent_bob> Darius08x no.  they are phisical "jumpers" on the device.
[07:10] <ere4si> glick: k - still searching for that article
[07:10] <BernieMac> qwerty121, I can imagine, that would be rather frustrating
[07:10] <kazil> mornin` all
[07:11] <Darius08x> Oh.
[07:11] <qwerty121> BernieMac: The room you gave me is for compiz. But it's not bcoz of compiz
[07:11] <qwerty121> BernieMac: i dont use compiz
[07:11] <dadehoog> vasuvi: I'm also running MySQL ...
[07:11] <Agent_bob> Darius08x small dubble contact plugs that slip over two small pins and thereby "jump" the two togather.
[07:11] <vasuvi> dadehoog: hmm; if it still locks up now that I've disabled Compiz, that sounds like a good next thing to try then
[07:11] <Darius08x> Ok, I understand now.
[07:11] <Agent_bob> Darius08x the info is almost always printed on the drive it's self
[07:12] <BernieMac> qwerty121, I apologize, I thought maybe the guys in there would be able to help out more
[07:12] <vasuvi> dadehoog: (disabling MySQL that is)
[07:12] <Beryllium> does anyone know how to fix apt-get's version of php5-cli so that it supports readline()?
[07:12] <dadehoog> vasuvi: syslog is blank for the last crash ... Dec  6 15:39:11 queeg ntpd[5496]: Listening on interface #5 eth1, <IP_ADDRESS>#123 Enabled
[07:12] <dadehoog> Dec  6 16:01:34 queeg syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart.
[07:12] <qwerty121> BernieMac: is there any way out to access all the desktop elements?
[07:13] <Ein_> hi
[07:13] <qwerty121> !hi | Ein_
[07:13] <ubotu> Ein_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:13] <Agent_bob> Darius08x but in my openion,  and that's all it is, so take it with a grain of salt; the things you described do sound like it will be an acutal hardware issue.  i.e.   loose/dirty cable most likely    bad drive possably
[07:13] <BernieMac> qwerty121, I'm not sure. this is my first time back in Ubuntu in probably 3 months, not that I was an expert before by any means!!
[07:13] <Ein_> my I ask?
[07:13] <mikebot> What do I do with a .tar.bz2?
[07:14] <vasuvi> dadehoog: not seeing anything weird in my syslog either
[07:14] <billy> anybody know how i can download maps into warcraft 3 and wine?
[07:14] <qwerty121> BernieMac: Ok, NP.
[07:14] <dadehoog> mikebot: it's a compressed archive ... you should be able to unpack it with file-roller ...
[07:14] <BernieMac> Darius08x, I would have to agree with Agent_bob, sounds like more of a hardware issue than anything else...
[07:14] <mikebot> dadehoog: Does fileroller come pre-installed?
[07:14] <Ein_> how I can run as admin root at terminal?
[07:14] <Regarok> hi all, could someone recommend me a good tv program to please?
[07:14] <billy> sudo -s
[07:14] <ere4si> glick does typing  -  man apt   - get a response?
[07:14] <Agent_bob> you just don't have windows and linux both failing on one drive, and probono dismiss the hardware as good.
[07:15] <Darius08x> I'm taking it to a local computer shop to have it tested tomorrow.
[07:15] <dadehoog> mikebot: Open up a nautilus window and browse to the file's location, then right-click on it ... you should get the option to extract it
[07:15] <Darius08x> So I guess they'd be able to tell me for sure.
[07:15] <Agent_bob> depends on how good they are.    or how greedy
[07:15] <MrPockets> how do i mount a USB Flash drive?
[07:15] <Dooms> hey can any of you guys watch this video i made? And yes im the girl
[07:15] <Dooms> http://youtube.com/watch?v=eXdkyAyOcGo
[07:16] <Regarok> could someone recommend me a good tv software please?
[07:16] <mikebot> dadehoog: Thanks.
[07:16] <billy> tv software?
[07:16] <billy> joost?
[07:16] <Darius08x> Heh, oh boy.
[07:16]  * Agent_bob works on computers      so he doesn't trust computer shops
[07:16] <dadehoog> mikebot: no worries
[07:16] <neumind> is a tv software for ubuntu?
[07:16] <Regarok> yeah
[07:16] <qwerty121> Ein_: type "sudo -i", give your password
[07:16] <Darius08x> Hopefully they won't be. I think it's some nice old guy. Hopefully he won't be greedy
[07:16] <Regarok> i have tv card
[07:16] <Regarok> but i need the software
[07:16] <billy> duno about that
[07:17] <Agent_bob> Darius08x good luck with it.
[07:17] <mikebot> dadehoog: It's all source code.. how do I compile it?
[07:17] <Jack_Sparrow> mythtv
[07:17] <billy> anybody know how to download and play maps on warcraft 3?
[07:17] <dadehoog> vasuvi: nothing in gdm logs either
[07:17] <Darius08x> THank you.
[07:17] <vasuvi> dadehoog: ditto
[07:18] <dadehoog> Mikebot: that's not a straightforward question ... what are you planning to compile ?
[07:18] <eek> does anyone know have the annoying message of 'error gnome_screensaver_control( )' pop up when using gmplayer besides me?  anyone know howto get rid of it?
[07:18] <Regarok> thanks jack_sparrow
[07:18] <Pandemic> Hello I have another question...
[07:19] <ztomic> anyone know how to disable pointing stick on dell c610?
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> np.. hope it works with your card
[07:19] <Agent_bob> eek i'm not a gnome user   but will turning off the screen saver not work ?
[07:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ztomic: Pointing stick?  I have two C610's  dont know what that is
[07:19] <ztomic> hardware/software solutions welcome.
[07:20] <dadehoog> vasuvi: it's obviously NOT being logged anywhere ... so it's not an error that's using the standard error reporting ..
[07:20] <ztomic> Jack_Sparrow: the blue button
[07:20] <Pandemic> Has anyone ever heard of an IP being unreachable for no apparent reason?
[07:20] <ztomic> purple
[07:20] <eek> im not using gnome either, hate to turn off my screensaver though ;/
[07:20] <vasuvi> dadehoog: correct; I'm thinking (though not sure by any means) that it's some kind of infinite loop, though it has to be something that can bog down all cores (dual-core system here)
[07:20] <Pandemic> i.e., I can't reach linuxmint.com for some reason.
[07:20] <Darius08x> mikebot left the room alreay
[07:21] <Darius08x> already
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ztomic: Duh.. sorry.. never knew the name of it.
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ztomic: Cant it be turned off in the bios someplces
[07:21] <Jack_Sparrow> place
[07:21] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in dialog that opens  by selecting GNOME panel menu 'System' > 'Quit'?
[07:21] <Agent_bob> eek ah that might be the cause,   it may be looking for the gnome screen saver control      "thus the message" ...
[07:21] <ztomic> Jack_Sparrow: my mouse goes wild... need a new keyboard i guess
[07:21] <ztomic> Jack_Sparrow: nope
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ztomic: easy enough to replace
[07:22] <eek> Agent_bob, looks like ubuntu's mplayer has that compiled into it somehow
[07:22] <ztomic> Jack_Sparrow: yeah but i never use it so i wish there was a software solution like in windows.
[07:22] <CyberMad> how to add some microsoft windows font on ubuntu?
[07:22] <dadehoog> what is apport exactly, and how does it relate to firefox ? I've had that max out my memory and CPU once ...
[07:23] <Agent_bob> Pandemic i can pint  linuxmint.com
[07:23] <jariep1_> can somebody help with dpkg deb file install howt0
[07:23] <Agent_bob> ping
[07:23] <mas> hello
[07:23] <ztomic> Jack_Sparrow: you don't have problems with your's?
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ztomic: Since Dell and MS sleep together I would not hold out hope for a fix going back to that hardware.
[07:23] <mas> yes
[07:23] <kazil> whys ftp so slow on ubuntu?
[07:23] <jariep1_> i have a deb file to install
[07:23] <ztomic> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu is on dell now... where have you been?
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ztomic: Never had any issues that I noticed.
[07:23] <Agent_bob> Pandemic i didn't try to navigate there tho.    can you ping it ?
[07:23] <dadehoog> Jack_Sparrow: would it not be possible to disable one or more buttons in the xorg config ?
[07:24] <jariep1_> howt0?
[07:24] <mas> card of tv not install
[07:24] <jariep1_> deb file insall howt0??
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ztomic: I am aware... that they have Ubuntu now.. then they didnt.. and MS will still have an inside track on a lot of that hardware
[07:24] <dadehoog> jariep1_: Why do you have a .deb to install ? Isn't it available in one of the Ubuntu repositories ?
[07:24] <ere4si> jariep1: in your menu should be gdebi package installer
[07:25] <Agent_bob> jariep1_ sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb    if you must
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> dadehoog: that would also kill the real mouse..  I dont see that ubuntu differentiates the two
[07:25] <mas> thk u
[07:25] <ztomic> Jack_Sparrow: MS is everywhere
[07:25] <jariep1_> dadehoog it java sun microsytem
[07:25] <BernieMac> Jack_Sparrow, I would have to agree, dell and MS have a much more intimate relationship
[07:25] <WinterWeaver> !vmware
[07:25] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight guys..
[07:25] <kazil> someone knows a good ftp software?
[07:26] <dadehoog> Jack_Sparrow: I can set options (eg. scrolling etc.) on my synaptics trackpoint/touchpad in xorg ...
[07:26] <WinterWeaver> kazil: gftp
[07:26] <Pandemic> Agent_bob: I'm sorry, I didn't understand your question.
[07:26] <Agent_bob> !ftp > kazil
[07:26] <WinterWeaver> kazil: or filezilla
[07:26] <jariep1_> dadehoog java instll as deb
[07:26] <ztomic> client or server?
[07:27] <ztomic> kazil: ?
[07:27] <Agent_bob> Pandemic was just trying to help you sort out the "site unreachable" issue    that was you wasn't it ?
[07:27] <kazil> client
[07:27] <ztomic> zilla
[07:27] <Pandemic> Agent_bob: Yes. It is. But I can't reach the site.
[07:27] <WinterWeaver> !virtualizers
[07:27] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[07:27] <Pandemic> Agent_bob: But I know that the site is up and running.
[07:28] <WinterWeaver> >.<
[07:28] <WinterWeaver> !VirtuaBox
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtuabox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <Agent_bob> Pandemic open a terminal and see if you can ping it    it might show some usable information if you can't.
[07:28] <Pandemic> Oh.
[07:28] <WinterWeaver> !VirtualBox
[07:28] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:28] <Pandemic> !pastebin
[07:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:29] <kazil> filezilla looks promising :)
[07:29] <ztomic> the smallest twist on this laptop causes the mouse to go wild. disabling the pointing stick in windows solves the problem but I havent found a way to do that in linux.
[07:29] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the dialog that opens by selecting in the GNOME panel menu 'System' > 'Quit'?
[07:30] <Agent_bob> kazil  looked at  gentoo  ?
[07:30] <kazil> no
[07:30] <billy> anybody have warcraft 3 installed?
[07:30] <Pandemic> Agent_bob: Yeah, I received no packets back.
[07:30] <kazil> i tried gFTP but its very slow
[07:30] <Agent_bob> gentoo does ftp
[07:30] <WinterWeaver> kazil: yup... filezilla looks nice... but I must admit, i've gotten very used to gftp, and it's actually a great little app, you can edit your files directly on the ftp and such, which I never managed to do with filezilla
[07:30] <Pandemic> 79 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 78018ms
[07:30] <Agent_bob> Pandemic no glaring error messages huh ?
[07:31] <Pandemic> Nope.
[07:31] <dadehoog> Pandemic: It resolved the name to an IP though ?
[07:31] <ztomic> billy: wine?
[07:31] <Pandemic> dadehoog: Well yes, although I didn't receive any packets back.
[07:31] <billy> yeah on wine
[07:31] <Agent_bob> dadehoog take over that one with Pandemic i'm pretty green on network issues.
[07:31] <kazil> WinterWeaver: my problem with gFTP is that its very slow... and its not for the connection. i used WinSCP under XP and its like 4 times faster
[07:32] <dadehoog> Pandemic: are there any other sites where you have a similar issue ?
[07:32] <onats> mneptok, just like to ask, what's the advantage of bittornado over other clients?
[07:32] <BernieMac> I can't use CTRL+ALT+left/right arrow to switch between workspaces(shortcuts are set to this) but I can click to other spaces or mouse wheel to them. Anyone know why this is?
[07:32] <dadehoog> BernieMac: Have a check of your System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:32] <ztomic> billy: I think i saw it in the appdb. have you tried running it in desktop or have you looked in #wine?
[07:32] <dadehoog> BernieMac: They may have been re-assigned ..?
[07:33] <Pandemic> Yes dadehoog, I know offhand that the same happens with ultimate-guitar.com
[07:33] <BernieMac> dadehoog, checked them, set to ctl+alt+left/right
[07:33] <Pandemic> dadehoog: But that's the only other one I know of.
[07:33] <Agent_bob> BernieMac and even if they look right maybe reset them manually   the keyboard may be sending something unexpected
[07:33] <dadehoog> Pandemic: what are you using to configure your network ? network-manager ?
[07:34] <WinterWeaver> kazil, have you checked the protocol that ur using? not sure but it could be the reason. I've not had slow gftp speeds,... yet lol... neway, if ur happy with filezilla that's cool ^_^
[07:34] <billy> ztomic: i can run it and all, but i just cant seem to download a map and get it to work
[07:34] <Pandemic> At the moment I'm just using the Network Monitor, dadehoog.
[07:34] <kazil> WinterWeaver: not the transfer speed. gftp itself is slow... or is it just me? :D
[07:35] <ztomic> billy: reading the faq can solve lots. try a wine channel after that.
[07:35] <Iggz> Hello
[07:35] <billy> im banned from the wine channel :(
[07:35] <ztomic> hoiwdy
[07:35] <dadehoog> Pandemic: what's the output of `route -a` ?
[07:35] <ztomic> howdy even
[07:35] <BernieMac> dadehoog, Agent_bob: tried resetting, and also tried changing them to other commands to no avail
[07:35] <dadehoog> apologies, "route -n"
[07:35] <WinterWeaver> kazil: oh... lol... sorry.... hmm, It's not really been slow for me ever... I use it at work and home.
[07:36] <Iggz> Lol, I thought perhaps hoiwdy was linux for hello :-P
[07:36] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the dialog that opens by selecting in the GNOME panel menu 'System' > 'Quit'?
[07:36] <dirtdawg> Wow tons of people here. Howdy! That's all for now :)
[07:36] <Agent_bob> Iggz :)
[07:36] <Iggz> I'm looking for a little help with a first time ubuntu install...
[07:37] <DiCha_cHa-Cha_> palembang
[07:37] <marsmissions> Anyone have any recommendations for a new sound card thats works well?
[07:37] <DiCha_cHa-Cha_> amel
[07:37] <Slart> just ask Iggz
[07:37] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[07:37] <dinochopins> I'm using Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)
[07:37] <ztomic> Iggz: what's the problem?
[07:37] <Slart> or.. perhaps that should be.. "just ask, iggz" =)
[07:37] <Iggz> Everything is fine - even with the new build but I am buggered if I can get out on the net
[07:37] <Agent_bob> Iggz drop the cd in the tray and reboot  :)     it's just about that simple...
[07:37] <dinochopins> here I've got 2 DHCP server with 2 NIC
[07:37] <dinochopins> everything is fine... I've got 2 ip address
[07:37] <Iggz> LOL
[07:38] <Iggz> I tried - but alas no :P
[07:38] <Agent_bob> Iggz oh network issue.     wireless ?
[07:38] <ztomic> Iggz: wireless?
[07:38] <WinterWeaver> I cannot install VMware Player. I just get a message saying: "VMware Player cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)"
[07:38] <Iggz> Nop, cable modem - using an ethernet card - not usb
[07:38] <dinochopins> but the weird thing is, I only got 1 DNS server in my /etc/resolv.con. How can I have my /etc/resolv.conf fixed values ?
[07:38] <Iggz> ran terminal commands ala help - but nothing
[07:39] <Agent_bob> Iggz   ifconfig -a    is your card recognized ?
[07:40] <Pandemic_> Oops, I dunno what I did there.
[07:40] <yakov__> hello
[07:40] <Pandemic_> dadehoog: What was that routing command?
[07:40] <BernieMac> Agent_bob, just curious, does running ifconfig -a give any different info than just ifconfig?
[07:40] <Iggz> yes - at lest I think so - it gives it what appears to be the normal linux name - ie etho1 but then tells me its not ready - or something simplier - anyway, it is unable to get my ip addrees
[07:40] <casio1374633> ??
[07:40] <casio1374633> am i in ?
[07:40] <Agent_bob> BernieMac yes  it will show cards that are not active but recognized.
[07:40] <Iggz> Wow this is a busy channle
[07:41] <BernieMac> Agent_bob, ahh I see, thanks!
[07:41] <Iggz> IC - any idea as to how I can activate it?
[07:42] <Agent_bob> Iggz ok.    what does   sudo ifup eth0       assuming eth0    tell us ?
[07:42] <yakov__> does anyone know why there's no network in my dchroot? what can cause it?
[07:42] <Iggz> I have run Linux before - disc distros and have had no issue - same comp and card
[07:42] <Pandemic_> dadehoog are you still there?
[07:43]  * Agent_bob doesn't think that's what  ifup said....
[07:43] <Pandemic_> Well I have to sleep...I'll try to figure this out later.
[07:43] <marsmissions> Any suggestions for a new sound card?
[07:43] <Blistok> nautilus froze and I had to kill it, but now my desktop is just white with no icons. how can I get it back without rebooting?
[07:43] <marsmissions> Blistok: alt+f2 and type nautilus
[07:44] <marsmissions> Blistok: should fix it
[07:44] <ztomic> yakov__: resolve.conf
[07:44] <Iggz> Sorry Agent bob, i will need to reboot into ubunt to check - I believe it is a message similar to card is not ready (something like that) this maybe due to an other process using it
[07:44] <Blistok> marsmissions: just tried that, a window with my home folder popped up, but the desktop is still gone :/
[07:44] <marsmissions> Blistok: restart?
[07:45] <Blistok> marsmissions: ok, I guess I will, I was hoping I wouldnt have to as this happens like every couple days :/
[07:45] <Agent_bob> Blistok a bit more drastic    ctrl+alt+backspace   will reset the entire gui
[07:45] <marsmissions> Blistok: maybe you should reinstall nautilus?? something must be wrong.
[07:46] <Blistok> marsmissions: how do I do that?
[07:46] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus    ?
[07:46] <yakov__> ztomic, that's it! thx!
[07:46] <Blistok> agent_bob: ok, thanks
[07:46] <shadowblade> Hello, I need help getting my wireless working on my dell laptop
[07:47] <Ziddharth> hi
[07:47] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: what make/model of wireless?
[07:47] <Ziddharth> is there ne1 here
[07:47] <Ziddharth> ?
[07:47] <Agent_bob> Blistok i'm not sure nautilus is a package name...   don't thank me until you try it...
[07:47] <Iggz> One thing - before I reboot this and have a look - I have assigned a psudo MAC address to my NIC - just playing around a few days ago to check out the proccess - might this make a difference with ubuntu?
[07:47] <BernieMac> dadehoog, Agent_bob: I changed my preferences in the pref>appearance>visual effects from normal to none and I can use the shortcuts to switch between workspaces now
[07:47] <Blistok> agent_bob: alright, thanks
[07:47] <Ziddharth> #help
[07:47] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: It's internal in my Dell e1505
[07:48] <marsmissions> Blistok: you could search nautilus in synaptic to get the right package name, and then right click and click reinstall in there as well
[07:48] <Ziddharth> IS THERE ANY WAY TO MANAGE FORUMS WITHOUT BROWSER IN UBUNTU
[07:48] <Ziddharth> ?????????????????????????????????????????/
[07:48] <dinochopins> hi everyone. How do I stop my Ubuntu get its nameserver list (/etc/resolv.conf) from dhcp server ?
[07:48] <Blistok> marsmissions: good idea, thanks
[07:48] <Agent_bob> Iggz indeed.
[07:48] <Slart> !caps | Ziddharth
[07:48] <ubotu> Ziddharth: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:48] <Agent_bob> Iggz and you just steped out of my reach on that issue.   ;/
[07:48] <dinochopins> anyone ?
[07:49] <Slart> dinochopins: there is a setting somewhere
[07:49] <Ziddharth> K THNX .. HERE I GO
[07:49] <anup> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:49] <Ziddharth> plz tell me
[07:49] <Ziddharth> if theres a way to manage forums like rss or mail
[07:49] <Slart> dinochopins: I've done it.. can't really remember where I found it..
[07:49] <dinochopins> Slart, can you tell me wher ?
[07:49] <dinochopins> Slart, ah.. so it is possible
[07:49] <Slart> dinochopins: have you tried looking at "man resolv.conf" ?
[07:49] <Agent_bob> Ziddharth wget/wput ?
[07:49] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: ok, from a terminal, execute: "sudo lspci -nnv > delle1505" and post the file to pastebin then reply with the url
[07:49] <Triskaidekaphobi> pastebin! | shadowblade
[07:50] <Slart> dinochopins: I'm not being all "rtfm!!!11!" on you.. I just don't remember what I did =)
[07:50] <Ziddharth> not in command prompt
[07:50] <Ziddharth> i mean
[07:50] <Ziddharth> i need some gui
[07:50] <Iggz> Bloody ideot I am - of course it might be - I have assigned the psudo nic by changing the windows reg - and my iop has assigned my ip accordingly - but in UB it must go back to my orginal MAC on my NIc - no bleeding wonder I cant get out :/
[07:50] <dinochopins> Slart, yes... and I dont get it
[07:50] <Ziddharth> i m new to linux
[07:50] <anup> hey today i install ubuntu having two disk drives but when i m coping in these than its not showing paste
[07:50] <Agent_bob> Ziddharth oh.    idk then.
[07:50] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade | pastebin!
[07:50] <Slart> dinochopins: I'll look around in my files.. see if I find it.. hang on
[07:51] <Ziddharth> shall i install the package idk then ???
[07:51] <Iggz> Agent BOb? Your are a star - I hope :-) Cheers
[07:51] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: sorry, when ran that command it didnt seem to do anything
[07:51] <Agent_bob> Iggz welcome.
[07:51] <Agent_bob> Iggz hope you get it sorted.
[07:51] <Slart> dinochopins: ah.. in your dhcp configuration you can add stuff like "prepend"
[07:51] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: it did, it put the output into a file name delle1505 in whatever directory you were in...
[07:52] <Ziddharth> hey there is 1 more thing i want to no guys
[07:52] <Iggz> Me to - i look the look of this OS to be honest - and really want to dump xp - thank you :)
[07:52] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: you can upload the file to the pastebin service
[07:52] <Ziddharth> is it possible to install your bootloader on a seperate mobile memory card or pen drive to lock your computer
[07:52] <Ziddharth> ?
[07:52] <Triskaidekaphobi> !pastebin | shadowblade
[07:52] <ubotu> shadowblade: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:52] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: ... sorry I don't know how to do that
[07:52] <ztomic> /etc/resolve.conf doesn't solve EVERY problem.
[07:52] <adamonline45> I'm trying to compile the Domino Style Engine from source (is there a package?) but, at the configure stage I get this error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! ...... Does anyone know what this means? Oh, Kubuntu, 7.10
[07:52] <Agent_bob> Ziddharth ?    "idk"  acronym for "i dont know"    sorry for the short hand
[07:53] <Ziddharth> ohk
[07:53] <Ziddharth> :)
[07:53] <Ziddharth> understood
[07:53] <Ziddharth> :)
[07:53] <bodhi_zazen> Ziddharth, yes
[07:53] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: ok, I think I did it right
[07:53] <ztomic> Ziddharth: I would assume that it depends on your hardware
[07:53] <Ziddharth> bodhi_zazen .. that yes was for locking question ??
[07:54] <bodhi_zazen> but if someone has physical access that plan is easily circumvented
[07:54] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: ok, what's the url?
[07:54] <Ziddharth> i am buying a new laptop
[07:54] <bodhi_zazen> what do you mean by locking ?
[07:54] <niuq_> i'm trying to install virtualbox, i did ./configure and i get this message **g++ (variable cxx) not found)
[07:54] <Ziddharth> ACER ASPIRE 4520
[07:54] <Slart> dinochopins: I guess you want to use your own dns-server instead of the ones the dhcp-server gives you, right?
[07:54] <Narissa> has anyone found a workaround for the classic nVidia HWCursor issue?
[07:54] <Ziddharth> i want to use it with ubuntu
[07:54] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47075/
[07:54] <Agent_bob> bodhi_zazen give me phisical access to any box, and i own it.  simpe as that.
[07:55] <Ziddharth> nd i was thinking to lock it with my mobile with memory card that is detected as pendrive on pc
[07:55] <Ziddharth> via usb
[07:55] <ztomic> Ziddharth: are there no other security methods?
[07:56] <bodhi_zazen> Ziddharth, +1 on what Agent_bob said
[07:56] <Ziddharth> there are but i need the 1 which leaves noone else able to start my pc without me
[07:56] <bodhi_zazen> I don't know how you can lock a box if someone has physical access
[07:56] <Ziddharth> without any password
[07:56] <bodhi_zazen> No, that is not possible
[07:57] <bodhi_zazen> you have to limit physical access or game over
[07:57] <Ziddharth> hmmm
[07:57] <ere4si> the screensaver can do that/
[07:57] <Ziddharth> but wouldnt it wrk if i install GRUB on seperate pendrive
[07:57] <ere4si> *?
[07:57] <BernieMac> bodhi_zazen, how would you go about this? I am just intrigued by the topic now
[07:57] <Ziddharth> during install
[07:57] <Ziddharth> ?
[07:57] <ztomic> Ziddharth: then you hjave to encrypt EVERYTHING and even that is no SURE thing.
[07:58] <Agent_bob> even bios' that are password protected (i.e. wont boot without a password)  are not secure.  a simple bios reset and the password is gone.
[07:58] <bodhi_zazen> BernieMac, live CD ?
[07:58] <Slart> who are you trying to lock out here, Ziddharth? The evil empire or your parents/wife/brother-in-law ?
[07:58] <Slart> match the effort to the opponent
[07:58] <BernieMac> bodhi_zazen, ahh, yes I suppose that would work. leave it to me to not think of the most obvious solution
[07:58] <Ziddharth> i am living with some punks wher i work
[07:59] <Ziddharth> so i dont want them to load there shit in my trunk
[07:59] <Ziddharth> :)
[07:59] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: ok, here's a great howto for your setup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902
[07:59] <Ziddharth> basically if i use account and password i will have to create their accounts too
[07:59] <ztomic> Ziddharth: there are numbers of ways to protect data
[07:59] <Slart> Ziddharth: then I guess a bios password combined with an ok computer box should do it..
[07:59] <Narissa> anyone?
[08:00] <ztomic> Narissa: I missed your question
[08:00] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: okay, I'll give that a try
[08:00] <Agent_bob> Narissa !i
[08:00] <Ziddharth> no actually if there is a password they will definately ask me .. what i want is that if they start it it shows no OS installed and i will just say its broke
[08:00] <Ziddharth> ;)
[08:00] <Narissa> ztomic: seeing if any fix for the hwcursor issue with nVidia had been fixed, or a workaround
[08:01] <bodhi_zazen> Ziddharth, remove the hard drive
[08:01] <Narissa> Agent_Bob 8)
[08:01] <Slart> Ziddharth: sure, they can open the computer box and reset the password.. but hey.. they can tie you up and beat the snot out of you and you'd probably tell them the password anyways =)
[08:01] <Ziddharth> from laptop ?? i m afraid i will lose my warranty
[08:01] <Ziddharth> :)
[08:01] <ztomic> Narissa: oh! yeah i saw that. no clue here.
[08:01] <bodhi_zazen> LOL
[08:01] <Narissa> got the new drivers installed, but had to resort to SWCursor, except using flgrx apps or gaming gives me a cursor with a buggy box
[08:01] <Ziddharth> and beating part is not true though bt may get close :D
[08:01] <Agent_bob> Ziddharth remove all drives but a cdrom  and use live CD
[08:02] <Agent_bob> carry a pin drive for storage.
[08:02] <bodhi_zazen> Over write the MBR with 000 or random stuff
[08:02] <Slart> Ziddharth: then just set the boot drive to some other drive.. and when you want to use it.. just set it to the right drive.. that will give you a ." NO BOOT DISK IN DRIVE" error message
[08:02] <bodhi_zazen> boot from a live cd or floppy then
[08:02] <bodhi_zazen> no cd = no bot
[08:02] <Ziddharth> frnds it wont work they are not computer geeks but they can use windows so they know how to insert a cd atleast :D
[08:03] <ztomic> Ziddharth: remove the power supply
[08:03] <Ziddharth> guys slow down
[08:03] <Ziddharth> ok leave it
[08:03] <ztomic> Ziddharth: put a switch on the purple wire
[08:03] <Ziddharth> slart's way is nice .. thnx bro
[08:04] <Ziddharth> neway leave the security option
[08:04] <Agent_bob> ummmm use  the computer  and when finished   use an 8lbs sledge halt program to shut it down....  :)
[08:04] <ztomic> hehe
[08:04] <Ziddharth> is there a software that logs into forums applications and save you the trouble on keeping a track on whats seen and whats unseen
[08:04] <Ziddharth> ?
[08:04] <Ziddharth> :)
[08:05] <M3M3_C4ObY> i
[08:05] <Slart> Ziddharth: nothing with a gui.. you could write something yourself with wget, curl etc etc
[08:05] <Slart> Ziddharth: nothing = nothing that I know of
[08:06] <Ziddharth> well then how to use it .. what u r suggesting ??
[08:06] <Ziddharth> wget stuff
[08:06] <Slart> Ziddharth: wget is a command line application for doing all kinds of web stuff... you could use it to upload logs to some ftp/web-site
[08:07] <Slart> !wget
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <Slart> bah.. ubotu.. I'm most disappointed =)
[08:07] <Ziddharth> okhe
[08:07] <Slart> !info wget
[08:07] <Ziddharth> nice help
[08:07] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 233 kB, installed size 1924 kB
[08:07] <Ziddharth> :)
[08:07] <Agent_bob> !info wput
[08:07] <ubotu> wput: A tiny wget-like ftp-client for uploading files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1build1 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 164 kB
[08:07] <Ziddharth> iget it
[08:07] <Slart> ahh.. sweet.. didn't know about that one
[08:07] <adamonline45> Hi RAOF! I hope you got my thanks from last night, it came kinda late 8)
[08:07] <Ziddharth> wget gets stuff .. nd wput puts stuff
[08:08] <Ziddharth> rt ?
[08:08] <Slart> seems that way
[08:08] <Agent_bob> !info curl | and curl does both
[08:08] <ubotu> and curl does both: curl: Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS or FTP server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.16.4-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 170 kB, installed size 284 kB
[08:08] <RAOF> adamonline45: Yeah, thanks.
[08:08] <Ziddharth> ubotu is like the nerd in the class
[08:08] <Ziddharth> :D
[08:10] <akorn> Does anybody know why in Linux, Picasa doenst have the Web Albums option for uploading/downloading available unlike in the windows version?
[08:10] <Ziddharth> maybe google guys dont like lunux folks
[08:10] <Ziddharth> :D
[08:10] <peacepipejv> help, no sound, did some stuff in the forums and im worse off
[08:10] <Agent_bob> linux probably doesn't pay enough
[08:10] <Slart> akorn: google isn't really into this internet-thingy? =)
[08:11] <akorn> Slart haha i'm sorry?
[08:11] <Ziddharth> PEACEPIPJV : i have had same trouble during my entry in linux wrld
[08:11] <Ziddharth> i tried everything
[08:11] <Ziddharth> bt in the end 1 simple thing came to me
[08:11] <Ziddharth> u can try it too
[08:11] <mutable> Hello. Does anybody here uses some Java Swing/AWT app (NetBeans, IntelliJ Idea, ...). I often loose focus from keyboard. After closing some dialog window, all keystrokes goes to /dev/null :(
[08:11] <Slart> akorn: this happens with a lot of applications.. linux versions lag behind on features etc.. compare linux skype with windows skype.. it's the same
[08:12] <ali1234> i have a weird problem with FTP. using gutsy, I can't connect to a FTP server on the same switch with either curl or ncftp, but I can connect to any ftp on the internet. all other machines on the LAN can connect to the FTP server, including my old edgy server.
[08:12] <akorn> Slart oh i see...yea i just thought maybe there was a fix out there or something...pretty depressing, especially from a monster like google! haha
[08:13] <Ziddharth> get alsa driver from alsa website and install your latest module
[08:13] <Ziddharth> haha
[08:13] <Slart> akorn: well.. it'll probably catch up shortly... perhaps write an email to them and ask about it.. make some noise
[08:13] <Agent_bob> mutable are you completely loosing the keyboard or does gnome simply reclaim the keyboard ?
[08:13] <Ziddharth> those guys are buisy collecting money for the competition .. $10 M
[08:13] <Ziddharth> :D
[08:14] <akorn> Slart haha yea, probably a bunch of complainers like me that aren't doing anything :P  Alright Thanks for the help!
[08:14] <Slart> you're welcome, akorn
[08:14] <mutable> Agent_bob: I'm loosing keyobard just in that java app
[08:14] <Ziddharth> hey guys is fedora better or ubuntu
[08:14] <Ziddharth> for linux newbie
[08:15] <Ziddharth> ?
[08:15] <Slart> !best
[08:15] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:15] <Slart> same goes for distros
[08:15] <mutable> Agent_bob: same in Java 1.6.0_02/03
[08:16] <tarelerulz> Ubuntu is the easyest Linux I have used .  As for Fedora Core I have not use it since 4.00
[08:16] <Ziddharth> how can i change my nick in here
[08:16] <Ziddharth> ?
[08:16] <Agent_bob> mutable ok that sounds like it's as simple as the focus not returning to the previous app  but rather to the gui in general.    i don't know what to tell you though.    alt+tab maybe ?
[08:16] <mutable> Agent_bob: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/174281
[08:16] <bodhi_zazen> Ziddharth, "/nick new_nick"
[08:16] <Slart> Ziddharth: but I think both fedora and ubuntu will meet your demands.. but they are a bit different.
[08:17] <hadiaziam> hi..how change permissions from +i to-i?it show invalid operation when i using -i..
[08:18] <rgt33467> hadiaziam: man chattr
[08:18] <Slart> hadiaziam: is +i a permission?
[08:18] <ZID> i like ubuntu better
[08:18] <ZID> but thers just 1 thing i hate about it
[08:18] <ZID> its that creepy color during splash
[08:19] <ZID> how can i change it
[08:19] <Slart> just 1? I've think I've got some more =)
[08:19] <ZID> i tried to edit gconf too
[08:19] <ZID> bt nothing
[08:19] <ZID> well slart u probably use more than me
[08:19] <ZID> :D
[08:19] <rxndx> hello all!
[08:19] <Slart> ZID: I'm starting to think that the wonderful light brown-ish is hardcoded somewhere.. I've seen other people ask about it.. but no good answers
[08:20] <Slart> hello rxndx
[08:20] <bodhi_zazen> ZID
[08:20] <bodhi_zazen> disable the boot splash :)
[08:20] <ZID> its login splash
[08:20] <Slart> you still get your daily dose of ubuntu-brown =)
[08:20] <ZID> not boot splash
[08:20] <Agent_bob> mutable if you can't get focus back with alt+tab i'm not a developer nor part of the ubuntu team, so i can't help you.    good that you filed a bug on it.
[08:20] <rxndx> I'm having trouble logging into my yahoo messenger account on Pidgin... something about error 29... and when I follow the link it provides, it takes me to a captcha image
[08:21] <rxndx> any suggestions?
[08:21] <gordonjcp> rxndx: give it the right password?
[08:21] <rxndx> it's still doing this even after I upgraded to Pidgin 2.3
[08:21] <rxndx> gordonjcp yes
[08:21] <bodhi_zazen> New GDM theme then
[08:22] <gordonjcp> rxndx: have you googled the error message?
[08:22] <levander> I just cleared my CMOS and need to reset the clock in Ubuntu.  Is the command ntpdate?  I don't remember.
[08:22] <rxndx> I think it has something to do with the captcha image, but there is nowhere to enter one in pidgin
[08:22] <Slart> bodhi_zazen: still doesn't change that first image you get when starting gnome
[08:22] <ZID> tried everything .. it changed the bgcolor for GDM but everytime i log in that color always shows up midway :))
[08:22] <rxndx> gordonjcp yes
[08:22] <mutable> Agent_bob: yes, I cannot, I also find a similar thread on java.net and bug on sun, so i will append it to the bug, thx
[08:22] <kraut> moin
[08:22] <bodhi_zazen> oic now
[08:22] <Agent_bob> mutable sorry i couldn't do more there.
[08:23] <bodhi_zazen> install ubunt from bootstrap, install fluxbox, startx
[08:23] <ali1234> when i put a new network card in to ubuntu, it appears as eth1 (obviously to avoid conflicts) so how to I tell ubuntu that the old card is broken, and isn't coming back, and to use the new card as eth0?
[08:23] <mutable> Agent_bob: ok :)  thx attention
[08:23] <Slart> rxndx: don't use yahoo messenger so I've never seen that error.. have you checked the pidgin site? perhaps they have forums? irc-channel?
[08:23] <ZID> i m afraid i will live with it rather than installing ubuntu
[08:23] <ZID> :D
[08:23] <Darius08x> whooo, I'm back and finally have windows installed.
[08:24] <ZID> again
[08:24] <hadiaziam> rgt33467: got it..thanks
[08:24] <rxndx> Slart good idea... I'll search IRC
[08:24] <Slart> ali1234: check the file /etc/network/interfaces .. might be something there
[08:24] <rxndx> Slart it's crazy because this just started happening... never before
[08:24] <rxndx> has to be on Yahoo's end
[08:25] <Slart> rxndx: well.. the im-people change stuff all the time.. they want you to use their ad-supported client of course =)
[08:25] <rav1> which package should i install to get manual entry for exec??
[08:25] <rxndx> Slart: heh heh :)
[08:25] <Darius08x> Now I'm installing ubuntu 7.10 desktop edition and sorta need some help on what exactly I'm suppose to do. I'm in the partition table and have device /dev/sda and /dev/sda type ntfs mount point /media/sda1 and 8MB freespace (which I think is eothing for windows) What I want to do is split my 300gb evenlyish to ubuntu and windows. So how does I do that?
[08:25] <rxndx> Slart: be back in a few
[08:25] <rxndx> Slart: Thanks!
[08:25] <Slart> rav1: "manual entry for exec"?
[08:26] <ZID> just shrink some window partition
[08:26] <rav1> Slart: yup
[08:26] <rgt33467> rav1: sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[08:26] <rav1> thanks man
[08:26] <ZID> darius shrink it
[08:26] <ZID> ;)
[08:27] <Slart> aahhh.. I thought you wanted to enter something manually for exec.. doh..
[08:27] <Slart> like on the keyboard or something..=)
[08:27] <Darius08x> zid... I'm very cautious about what I'm doing. I don't want to mess stuff up. And also, I don't really know exactly what I'm doing at all. D:
[08:27] <ali1234> Slart: no, that's no use at all.
[08:27] <Darius08x> Do I want to edit an existing partition, make a new one, etc? I have no idea. :p
[08:28] <Slart> ali1234: yes.. that's what I thought too =)
[08:28] <chief> hi, I just installed ubuntu amd64, every time I log into kdm it plays the intro sound and kicks me out back into the login screen any ideas?
[08:28] <ali1234> has gutsy introduced some new default firewall settings that blocks ftp or something? or maybe when you get the auto eth1 it puts up a default firewall?
[08:28] <Slart> Darius08x: you'll probably want to shrink your windows partition so you get some free space.. then create a new partition in that free space for ubuntu
[08:28] <Agent_bob> i've been complaining about the "reversed sign" in tzconfig  (dapper LTS) for over a year.  no fix in sight.    and it's so simple.  just reversing the GMT(plus/minus)#    i'm tempted to do it my self although i don't know C
[08:29] <ZID> Darius: select some existing window partition that is in NTFS or FST
[08:29] <wasme> hi
[08:29] <ZID> and just shrink its size
[08:29] <Slart> ali1234: ubuntu has a firewall installed by default.. but it's disabled, kind of.. so it shouldn't be interfering
[08:29] <Iggz> Well what do you know it works
[08:29] <ali1234> well something is interfering
[08:29] <ZID> or u can use partition magic from inside the windows that is currently installed
[08:29] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the dialog that opens by selecting in the GNOME panel menu 'System' > 'Quit'?
[08:29] <kazil> anyone knows where to set in phpmyadmin the user, password, onlydb, host parameters? can`t find it anywhere
[08:30] <Darius08x> Yeah, I don't think it's letting me do that. If I go to edit partiton all it does is leet me change the type of it
[08:30] <Darius08x> wait
[08:30] <Darius08x> didn't word that well
[08:30] <Agent_bob> the firewall capability of linux is in the kernel
[08:30] <ali1234> kazil: /etc/phpmyadmin/ if you installed the packages
[08:30] <ZID> r u havng windows installed ??
[08:30] <Darius08x> lets me change the type like ext3, ntfs, etc, and also, change the mountpoint I see no way to resize it
[08:30] <Darius08x> no I already installed it
[08:30] <levander> Is sharing interrupts between PCI devices any kind of performance degradation at all?
[08:30] <Darius08x> I"m in the partition table in the intall for ubuntu
[08:31] <ZID> did ubuntu suggested something to u .. ?? some default scheme for partition
[08:31] <ZID> ?
[08:31] <Iggz> I hate to ask really daft questions in this channel but is there an absolute begiiners to linux channel where i can ask really daft questions? :-)
[08:31] <Slart> ali1234: you're running a ftp-client? or a server?
[08:31] <Slart> ali1234: if you want to check the firewall you can run this "sudo iptables -L" it will either print mostly nothing or 10+ lines of rules and stuff.
[08:31] <Darius08x> I'm in "manual" install instead of guided - use entire disk. Because I don't really want to use the entire disk since windows is on there.
[08:31] <wasme> anyone have ANY idea what's going on here: I have an nvidia video card, and I was running fiesty with no problems, although I did have to install the drivers from nvidia's site rather than from ubuntu. I just upgraded to gutsy, and had a hell of a time trying to get it to work, but eventually I figured out this much: I have nvidia-glx-new installed, and when I first boot up ubuntu can't find my video card and kicks me into low graphics
[08:31] <wasme>  mode. But if I switch to a text vt and issue the following 3 commands gdm will boot up properly: sudo rmmod nvidia, sudo kill -9 <pid of X>, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:31] <mutable> Does anybody know how to completely disable SCIM ?
[08:31] <ali1234> the ftp server is running on an embedded video player
[08:31] <Slart> Iggz: we do daft questions here too =)
[08:31] <mutable> I see some conf panel, but there some options...
[08:31] <kazil> ali1234: yeah i find that but its not the 'usual' config.inc.php (under usual i mean the kind like under windows)
[08:32] <Trogdor3634> Question - can any variant of Ubuntu be distributed via liveCD (smaller the better) with NTFS-write support?
[08:32] <ali1234> as i said before, my edgy box can connect but my gutsy box cannot using the same programs. and all three machines are connected to the same switch
[08:32] <ZID> hmm
[08:32] <ZID> so how much free space is available o you now
[08:32] <ZID> ?
[08:32] <ZID> in current table
[08:32] <ZID> ?
[08:32] <wols_> wasme: nvidia.com drivers hosed your system after the kernel upgrade
[08:32] <Slart> ali1234: ah.. yes.. read that... it's weird.. but check the firewall.. that's a pretty easy thing to do..
[08:32] <Darius08x> it says "free space" 8mb
[08:33] <Agent_bob> Trogdor3634 is that an GNU-GPL question ?    read the GNU-GPL   short answer yes.
[08:33] <Slart> Trogdor3634: I would say yes
[08:33] <Darius08x> but on the partiton I installed windows, thats ALL I have installed so there is like 300ish gb not being used
[08:33] <Iggz> LOL, fair enough - ok, well now that I have this thing running a few really daft questions starting with...
[08:33] <ZID> r u having ne partition other than ntfs or fat
[08:33] <ZID> ?
[08:33] <wasme> wols: so, uh, why would it work after removing the module and restarting X? Doesn't X just reload the same module anyway?
[08:33] <rgt33467> !u | ZID
[08:33] <ubotu> ZID: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[08:33] <Iggz> is there a website that lists the essential linux prigrams? You know firewalls. VS, etc?
[08:33] <ali1234> Slart: iptables -L shows that both machines have completely blank chains
[08:34] <Trogdor3634> My MMORPG, Eve Online, just pulled one of the biggest QA/testing mistakes I've ever seen. The default upgrade path deletes the windows file boot.ini on reboot, bricking the computer unless you have a recovery CD. I'd like to offer the tools to fix this, but I need a small distribution which has NTFS-write capability to make a new boot.ini - and may get a few linux converts while I'm at it.
[08:34] <Iggz> *programs
[08:34] <Slart> ali1234: ok.. that's one possible reason out of the way... only one nic in the machine?
[08:34] <MukiEX> Is it possible to use dd to replace the first 20k in File 'A' with File 'B', which happens to be 20k in size?
[08:34] <Darius08x> crap, Need to go afk for a while guys. Hold on.
[08:34] <Trogdor3634> I don't care about the GPL, nor does anyone working on a termpaper who's now unable to reboot their computer
[08:34] <Darius08x> Well, don't hold on, dunno when I'll be bacvkc
[08:34] <Slart> Iggz: check out synaptic.. it's in system, administration, synaptic sometihng
[08:34] <ali1234> yes, but, it is not the original install nic, so it appears as eth1 - in the none working gutsy box
[08:34] <Darius08x> back*
[08:34] <Agent_bob> Iggz firewall and essential programs in the same sentance ?    ...
[08:34] <Slart> Iggz: or you could look at the Applications menu.. Add/Remove
[08:35] <Iggz> Thanks slart
[08:35] <Agent_bob> Iggz what is the desired end ?
[08:35] <Trogdor3634> Does any existing Ubuntu-based live-CD capable distro have NTFS-write capability?
[08:35] <MukiEX> Trogdor : The latest Gutsy LiveCD will do it. I wonder if Puppy will as well?
[08:36] <Slart> Trogdor3634: check out that new distro.. jos I think it's called.. just enough OS.. it's ubuntu but just the bare essentials
[08:36] <Iggz> Lol, well come on agent, i was the one kicking the ubuntu distro around because I couldnt get on the net yet i was the daft sod using a psud mac address :P
[08:36] <Trogdor3634> MukeEx: It will write as well? I thought it was just read on the default distro
[08:36] <MukiEX> Actually, Trogdor, every time I've done that it's been habit to apt-get ntfs-config , so I'm not sure if it's there by default.
[08:36] <kazil> sweet.. i did it :)
[08:37] <Trogdor3634> Looking to be able to post the tools tonight and have a fix self-contained, since people will be booting up tomorrow.
[08:37] <Iggz> Agent BOb, good question - realistically I want to replace everything eventually form Xp to linux - but to be honest....
[08:37] <onats> does anyone know the maximum resolution for the intel 845G video card? i'm trying to install ubuntu on my old netvista pc, which is connected to a new samsung 931BW... no display shows after booting it.
[08:37] <Slart> ali1234: hmm.. could you pastebin the output from "ifconfig"  and "route"?
[08:37] <Trogdor3634> Slart: Does it come with NTFS-write capability?
[08:38] <Iggz> ...my main computor use is internet for research - well covered by FF, IRC, covered, it would seem by this program, and I am a big user of media - ie films and audio
[08:38] <wasme> wols_: so, uh, why would it work after removing the module and restarting X? Doesn't X just reload the same module anyway?
[08:38] <Slart> Trogdor3634: I don't know.. I just know that it's a small version of ubuntu..
[08:38] <Slart> !jos
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Darbus> Morning :)
[08:38] <peacepipejv> help, no sound in toshiba.  tried some threads in the forums, updated alsa driver and stuff and im worse off
[08:38] <Trogdor3634> thx
[08:38] <MukiEX> Trogdoor : Sounds silly, but if you don't immediately find a fix, try just downloading gutsy, running the livecd with a usb drive, and aptitude download ntfs-config, and put it on the USB key if it needs to be downloaded.
[08:38] <Slart> again ubotu..I find your lack of answers.. .disturbing =)
[08:38] <Darbus> Anyone of you really good with computers...?
[08:39] <wols_> wasme: what driver is your xorg.conf using?
[08:39] <Darbus> and Mandriva Linux...or similar ?
[08:39] <gordonjcp> !coffee
[08:39] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[08:39] <wasme> nvidia
[08:39] <ali1234> Slart: ok
[08:39] <wasme> er
[08:39] <onats> peacepipejv, what's your laptop model? are you in dual boot?
[08:39] <wasme> wols_: nvidia
[08:39] <levander> Slart: there's a web interface to ubuto that you can go in and fill in answers for
[08:39] <MukiEX> I'm pretty sure Gutsy has inate NTFS write support, but if it doesn't, that solution will work.
[08:39] <Slart> Darbus: really good could mean so many things.. try us
[08:39] <wols_> wasme: installing the PROPER ubuntu nvidia resttricted drivers should fix it again
[08:39] <Trogdor3634> !caffeine
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about caffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <Iggz> So, best firewall, AV, mdia player - movie and sound - at the momement
[08:39] <wasme> wols_: I did that already
[08:39] <gordonjcp> yay, the coffee factoid was entered by someone who can spell
[08:39] <MukiEX> So will putting the LiveCD on a 1GB Flash drive and the ntfs-config package on the writable partition ;)
[08:39] <Trogdor3634> !NTFS
[08:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[08:39] <Slart> levander: huh?
[08:39] <wasme> wols_: I removed everything I could find nvidia related and reinstalled nvidia-glx-new over again.
[08:40] <wols_> wasme: then show us the xorg log from when it doesn't work properly on bootup
[08:40] <Trogdor3634> !NTFS-3G
[08:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:40] <Darbus> Ok here goes... I do at this point have one Dell Latitude C160 laptop.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[08:40] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the dialog that opens by selecting in the GNOME panel menu 'System' > 'Quit'?
[08:40] <wols_> wasme: not nvidia-glx. ALL of the drivers. glx AND kernel module
[08:40] <peacepipejv> onats: toshiba sat a105. xp, ubuntu, ubuntustudio
[08:40] <Darbus> History behind this is : 1. I went from Win Xp to Mandriva Linux, and 2. I deleted the Xp partition...and 3. I then deleted all the remaining partitions...
[08:40] <Slart> Iggz: best firewall=only firewall.. iptables.. there are some gui's to configure it
[08:41] <wols_> Darbus: this is a ubuntu ONLY channel. ask #mandriva about mandriva problems. not us
[08:41] <ali1234> Slart: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2501/
[08:41] <wols_> !best | iggz
[08:41] <ubotu> iggz: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:41] <onats> peacepipejv, i had quite a similar problem before with my toshiba u205.. i noticed that if i muted it in windows, then booted to ubuntu w/o unmuting it there, it stays muted. you might want to try that
[08:41] <wasme> wols_: uh, the only drivers installed are nvidia-glx-new and restricted, which automaticly got removed when I removed nvidia-glx-new
[08:41] <Darbus> Its not a Mandriva problem in particular...its a computer problem at first ^^
[08:41] <wols_> wasme: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[08:41] <Darbus> since Mandrive in itself is no longer present :D
[08:41] <MukiEX> Trogdor3634! : The LiveCD/USB method might be yoru best bet, assuming you have a spare key lying about
[08:41] <wols_> Darbus: ew don't care. this is ubuntu ONLY: everything else is OFFtopic. please respect that
[08:41] <Slart> Iggz: media players are already installed.. I use vlc myself.. it does just about everything.. to play mp3's and such I use amarok... there are many others with different features/goals
[08:42] <shadowblade> Hey, I was trying to follow this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902 and I got an error at step 13
[08:42] <bAgent_bo> Iggz now.  as to the firewall.  iptables is the linux firewall and there are several apps for controlling it.   firestarter comes to mind.     media players  are plentiful   i like vlc
[08:42] <wols_> Darbus: there is ##linux, there is #hardware, etc. ask them, not us
[08:42] <rxndx> so I think I found a script to use, and I downloaded it but I don't know what to do with it now... it's got a .c file extension
[08:42] <Iggz> Ubo, indeed - perhaps I should have said recommended - in windows I know which get the best test results here I is a little less sure :-)
[08:42] <Slart> ali1234: what is the ip of that ftp-server?
[08:42] <wols_> rxndx: that's source code. not a script
[08:42] <rxndx> ycaptcha.c
[08:42] <ali1234> Slart: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <wasme> wols_: just nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-kernel-common
[08:42] <rxndx> wols_ ah
[08:42] <bAgent_bo> Iggz here you just try them all and use what you like.
[08:42] <wols_> wasme: I told you what you need. if you want to ignore it: your choice. good day
[08:42] <Slart> ali1234: or if you want to keep it secret.. is it in the 192.168.XX range?
[08:43] <bAgent_bo> price is the same  :)
[08:43] <Darbus> lol
[08:43] <wols_> Slart: he just said so
[08:43] <Iggz> Thanks Slart - didn't know VLC was linux supported - excellent, do you know if the web based DIVX player is also support on this platform?
[08:43] <rxndx> wols_ how would I compile it into a usable form?
[08:43] <Slart> ali1234: ok, thanks.. everything looks good so far.. no obvious errors that I can see
[08:43] <Trogdor3634> MUKEX: I'm treating it as a linux evangelizing opportunity - I could just point people to a pirated windows admin boot CD. So the smaller the distro, and the less steps required, the better - if they have to open Terminal, they'll never try linux again.
[08:43] <Darius08x> Ok back again. Anyways. I just recently installed windows xp. Then went over to the live cd of ubuntu 7.10 desktop version. I'm in the manual install partition table, and don't know what to do next. I want to dual boot xp and ubuntu, but I have no idea where to go now.
[08:43] <ali1234> Slart: and i can ping it... the ftp connection even gets packets back from it, but then it just stops. i have a wireshark trace if you would like to see it
[08:43] <wols_> ali1234: if you want to allow users behind a router to connect you need to assign and portforward a high port range too. not just 20,21
[08:43] <peacepipejv> onats: its not a mute problem, "no volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[08:43] <Slart> wols_: well.. the fingers move on their own.. =)
[08:43] <wols_> rxndx: gcc <file>
[08:44] <rxndx> wols_ thank you
[08:44] <ali1234> wols_: the ftp server and the gutsy are on the same switch
[08:44] <echosystm> where does firefox install to by default?
[08:44] <Iggz> Bagent: thanks checking out now
[08:44] <wasme> wols_: and as I said I already did that. It didn't help. But I can see you've concluded I'm not listening, so I guess I should conclude I won't get any help here.
[08:44] <wols_> Darius08x: just install it. it will be able to dualboot automatically
[08:44] <onats> peacepipejv, ah ok.. in that case i dont know..
[08:44] <Slart> ali1234: hmm.. that just makes it even strangers.. no packets or all packets are the usual states..=)
[08:44] <Darius08x> oh.
[08:44] <onats> anyone here using bittornado?
[08:44] <rxndx> wols_ tons of errors
[08:44] <bAgent_bo> Iggz while you are just exploring linux you might also want to try out other desktop environments
[08:44] <wols_> wasme: as you just said you did NOT. no kernel module. now go away until you can answer the questions posed to you
[08:45] <wols_> rxndx: dó you think I'm psychich?
[08:45] <Darius08x> do I want to use guided - entire disk then?
[08:45] <wols_> -h
[08:45] <Darius08x> if I just hit forward her eit says...
[08:45] <wols_> Darius08x: do you have free, unpartitioned space on your harddisk?
[08:46] <adamonline45> Does anyone know where I can find a font like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=61241&file1=61241-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Revelation+-+Domino
[08:46] <Slart> ali1234: and ping works even with bigger payloads? try ping -s 5000
[08:46] <Iggz> Final question, I know that Linux uses the NTFs file system, however, i notice that linux programs do not seem to come with an installer - but must be installed via the tools in the OS itself. if you have multible drives is it possible to choose which drive to install to?
[08:46] <Slart> amaroso: not nice.. please stop
[08:46] <bAgent_bo> Iggz kubuntu-desktop is a pretty popular meta package, it installs the kde "k desktop environment" along with the kubuntu default apps.
[08:46] <Iggz> *multiple
[08:46] <ali1234> Slart: ping -s 5000 does not work from either the gutsy or edgy box
[08:47] <wols_> Iggz: linux does not use ntfs. and in linux there are no "drives" or "driveletters" either
[08:47] <Slart> Iggz: hmm.. not really.. linux doesn't really work the same way as windows does..
[08:47] <Iggz> bAgent: thanks searching now :-)
[08:47] <wols_> Iggz: you have a / and all your disks are mounted as subdirectories to /
[08:47] <Darius08x> Uhhh, honestly I hardly know what I'm doing. So I don't know. I didn't see anyway to choose how much space to use in windows. So I just installed using the whole disk I suppose. In the partiton table I've got /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 which is 320062 MB, so I'm assuming all my space is right there. :/
[08:47] <bAgent_bo> Iggz ???  I know that Linux uses the NTFs file system,"   linux can access ntfs filesystems   but doesn't want to live there.
[08:47] <Darius08x> I'm very, very, new, so I'm sure I sound pretty dumb D:
[08:47] <rxndx> wols_ thanks... going to search google to see if I can learn some programming
[08:47] <wols_> Darius08x: you need to resize the windows partition then first
[08:47] <rxndx> wols_ take care
[08:47] <Iggz> LOL
[08:47] <chief> how can I set a monitor mode for 1024x1024@75 , the monitor driver for my CRT is wrong!
[08:48] <Slart> ali1234: it doesn't? that's odd.. I can ping with payloads up to at least 20000 here between my 2 gutsy boxes..
[08:48] <Darius08x> How exactly does one do that?
[08:48] <wols_> chief: stop X. then in a terminal dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[08:48] <chief> 1280x1024 I mean
[08:48] <Slart> !ops | amaroso
[08:48] <ubotu> amaroso: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[08:48] <wols_> chief: sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[08:48] <Darius08x> If I click on it and go to edit partition it doesn't give me an option to resize it
[08:48] <Iggz> WOLS so you can chose which"subdirectory?
[08:48] <ali1234> Slart: the ftp server is not running gutsy, not running linux... it runs RTOS
[08:48] <Slart> oh.. well it isn't an emergency really.. but amaroso is /msg spamming
[08:49] <Iggz> Damn my typing is falling to bits - sorry very tired
[08:49] <wols_> Iggz: you can but you shouldn't really. especially since you don't know how it works. I guarantee you it won't work when you do it
[08:49] <Slart> ali1234: well.. it should still be able to pass bigger packets around..
[08:49] <Amaranth> Slart: I'm not seeing anything
[08:49] <bAgent_bo> Iggz linux "by nature" uses ext2 file system   and in later times ext3 which is ext2 plus a journel
[08:49] <wols_> Slart: next time: !Ops amaroso is spamming in msg
[08:49] <Slart> ah.. perhaps he's just spamming me then.. wow.. a personal enemy.. how nice =)
[08:49] <wols_> Slart: so ops already know what the "emergency" is
[08:49] <ali1234> Slart: yeah. it should also open a listening socket before sending out the response to PASV command... but it doesnt
[08:49] <amaroso> what
[08:49] <Slart> thanks wols_ didn't know that
[08:49] <elkbuntu> wols_, thanks
[08:49] <MacMatt> Hello Hello!
[08:50] <ali1234> Slart: thw only reason im trying to connect to the thing using curl is to get a debug trace to send to the people who made it
[08:50] <glick_> hi
[08:50] <Iggz> WOLs, thanks. So the installer will simply look for free space in any of the subdirectories available?
[08:50] <elkbuntu> Slart, not everyone gets all the PM spams :)
[08:50] <adamonline45> !fonts
[08:50] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:50] <glick_> excuse me how can i play flash movies?
[08:50] <MacMatt> I'm new to ubuntu, ... having just install it, ...
[08:50] <glick_> i installed flash non free and gnash
[08:50] <Darius08x> Do I need to resize the partition in windows?
[08:50] <Trogdor3634> !jeos
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jeos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <glick_> but i still cafnt play flash movies in firefox
[08:50] <wols_> Iggz: no. linux has a quite rigid way installing things. it installs things in the proper places which is the same place on all ubuntu installs
[08:50] <u_angel> helllo room. limewire is just a blank screen. has anyone seen that before?
[08:50] <chief> wols_: okay that worked.
[08:50] <Slart> ali1234: hmm.. can you ping something else on the network with a big packet size?
[08:51] <ali1234> Slart: yes the edgy and gutsy boxes can ping each other fine with 5000
[08:51] <glick_> can anyone play flash movies in firefox?
[08:51] <Slart> ali1234: if the ftp-server can't handle big pings perhaps it can't handle any big packets at all.. that would perhaps explain why it won't work..
[08:51] <glick_> what do i  need to install
[08:51] <chief> wols_: thanks
[08:51] <wols_> Iggz: just like you can't just put your user's files anywhere. the only place you should put them is in your /home
[08:51] <wols_> Slart: makes no sense
[08:51] <shadowblade> Hello, I'm trying to get my wireless working using this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902 and I'm getting errors at step 13, can someone help?
[08:51] <bAgent_bo> Iggz you seem to be asking about the "linux file system higherarcy"    google know all about it.
[08:51] <ali1234> Slart: but it works fine with edgy
[08:52] <chief> what does restricted drivers mean by "nvidia-glx-new" is not enabled ?
[08:52] <Slart> ali1234: yes.. forgot about that..
[08:52] <wols_> shadowblade: tell us about the errors
[08:52] <ali1234> Slart: i can't even "telnet ftp-server 21" using gutsy
[08:52] <elkbuntu> Slart, please PM me the spam messages you got
[08:52] <Iggz> IC - I think -so if i partion part of my drive in windows - for the Ubunt install (i am presntly running off of the distro disc) it wont make any difference?
[08:52] <wols_> !nvidia | chief
[08:52] <ubotu> chief: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:52] <shadowblade> wols_: couldn't open /DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 181.
[08:52] <wols_> Iggz: don't partition. just create free space
[08:52] <u_angel> who uses limewire?
[08:52] <chief> wols_ : ahh I have to install it :)
[08:52] <wols_> shadowblade: so does this file exist? if not: why not?
[08:53] <MacMatt> Are there any Ubuntu Trade marks issues in printing ubuntu t-shirt , mouse mats ????
[08:53] <shadowblade> wols_: i was just following the steps in the howto and it went well up until there
[08:53] <bAgent_bo> Iggz yeah wols is right, easy way is just free up some space that is not partitioned,  the installer will make the partition   with your permission of course.
[08:53] <Skello> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu AMD64. I've installed sun-java6-jre through apt-get. Obviously it installed the 64 bits java version, however i can't get Opera to work with java even if i point it to the correct java path /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64. I assume this is because Opera is 32 bits version and java isn't. Should i install java for i386 then? and how should i do this?
[08:54] <Iggz> WOLS really? I think I am getting this. So where as Windows goes looking for partitions, linux will simply ignore this and see only directories?
[08:54] <bAgent_bo> Iggz it doesn't even need to be on the first disk.
[08:54] <zzap> Hey, I need some help.
[08:54] <zzap> Just installed Ubuntu for the first time.
[08:54] <zzap> And I kind accidently borked it. :P
[08:54] <Slart> ali1234: then I'm out of ideas.. can't imagine why the gutsy box won't talk to the ftp-server.. if gutsy had some weirdness going on in its network part I'm sure we would have heard about it by now..
[08:54] <Fyda> zzap: Could you please describe the problem in more detail?
[08:54] <cihann> hi
[08:55] <zzap> The screen resolution is not right
[08:55] <wols_> Iggz: no. it sees directories. but ubuntu likes to create its partitions in its installers. not let windows create it for it
[08:55] <wols_> erm, it sees partitions
[08:55] <peacepipejv> help, "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" error when i try to open volume controls.
[08:55] <wols_> Skello: there is no 64bit java plugin in existance. you can try nspluginwrapper
[08:56] <Fyda> zzap: Ah. But, you said you somehow broke it -- that means it used to be correct, yes?
[08:56] <bAgent_bo> Iggz what you are "getting" is that when linux mounts a filesystem it is then just a subdir of the system.
[08:56] <glick_> i see what the problem is
[08:56] <wols_> !sound | peacepipejv
[08:56] <ubotu> peacepipejv: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:56] <ali1234> Slart: i'm tending toward blaming IPCOP
[08:56] <glick_> for some reason there is a md5sum mismatch
[08:56] <Iggz> Wols: got it thank you. can i keep IRC up on the same comp while the installer is running? just in case i get stuck? :-)
[08:56] <ciacon> hi all... i have a q.... i have some troubble with the fps tremuous game... can someone help me?? or can someone tell me where I can find help on this??
[08:56] <glick_> and it causes flash player not to install
[08:56] <Slart> ali1234: but the ipcop machine isn't between you and the ftp is it?
[08:56] <wols_> Iggz: of course
[08:56] <glick_> i have no idea how to fix it though
[08:56] <bAgent_bo> Iggz sure.
[08:56] <zzap> I set it up to the right resolution, sO I'm not sure what I did wrong.
[08:56] <glick_> anyone have the same problem?
[08:56] <wols_> ciacon: don't ask to ask, just ask
[08:56] <ali1234> Slart: no, but that hasn't stopped it from completely screwing up the network before
[08:56] <zzap> Someone?
[08:57] <Iggz> OK, her goes
[08:57] <wols_> glick_: check launchpad for the bug. adobe changed the download
[08:57] <wols_> glick_: there should be a wokaround
[08:57] <zzap> The screen resolution is not right. Like, when I boot up and it gets to the login screen, I see all these lines and stuff. I set it up to the right monitor and resolution. And it told me to log off and log back on for the changes to take effect. So I did that. But when I logged off it went all weird.
[08:57] <shadowblade> wols_: ??
[08:57] <Slart> ali1234: oh.. I used ipcop on my former workplace.. it never misbehaved there
[08:57] <wols_> shadowblade: hm?
[08:57] <Iggz> :wonders of and presses install - fingers crossed and fearing the cures of Bill gates
[08:57] <glick_> wols how launchpad?
[08:57] <wols_> !launchpad
[08:57] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[08:57] <zzap> Anyone? Fyda?
[08:58] <onats> anyone here using bittornado?
[08:58] <Darius08x> Hope I'm not being too big of a nuisance, but how do I resize my existing windows partition so i can dual boot it and ubuntu
[08:58] <wols_> zzap: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg while X doesn't run. do it until you get it right. what videocard do you have?
[08:58] <shadowblade> wols_: do you know what the problem is?
[08:58] <Skello> wols_ i believe that's true for Firefox. Opera uses and detects java directly, doesn't need a plugin. It just needs the proper path to libjava.so and that's in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64. However Opera doesn't have a 64 bits stable version yet. So it's a 32 bits one. I thnink that's the problem.
[08:58] <Fyda> zzap: Which video card are you using?
[08:58] <ciacon> some of the aliens encountered in tremulous are 3x the size they should be.... tyrants are so big, that they are taller than the ceeling... that obviously is a grafics-error... didn't have it on my old pc... can anyone give me any hints??
[08:58] <wols_> Darius08x: it's explained in the ubuntu docs
[08:58] <intelikey> Darius08x gparted ?
[08:59] <Darius08x> Ah, I forgot about gparted.
[08:59] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: did you download the correct driver (32 or 64-bit) listed above the steps?
[08:59] <wols_> shadowblade: does this file exist? yes or no? if no: make it exist. it's part of your windows drivers
[08:59] <zzap> It's a RADEON 9200 PRO, it seems, Fyda / wols_.
[08:59] <glick_> i dont see anything in launchpad
[08:59] <glick_> about it
[09:00] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: I tried those and the ones from the dell website, got the same errors with both
[09:00] <wols_> zzap: use the "ati" or "radeon" driver then
[09:00] <glick_> i guess thats a bug and ill just have to wait for the update
[09:00] <zzap> wols_: How do I get into that if I can't see anything on the monitor?
[09:00] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: where did you extract the driver files?
[09:00] <zzap> Type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the recovery mode thing?
[09:00] <Fyda> zzap: Could you please post the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on a site like pastebin.com or pastebin.ca?
[09:00] <iKernel> haha
[09:00] <glick_> but that would seem like a high priority bug i would think it be one of the first ones fixed
[09:00] <Fyda> zzap: Yes, use the recovery console.
[09:01] <wols_> !flash
[09:01] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:01] <iKernel> there are people out there who are walking around on the street giving out ubuntu disks to passer bys
[09:01] <jariep1_> hi there i am trying to start java.bin install how do i do it so i do not create deb i have ubuntu
[09:01] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: they are both ZIP files and need to be UNZipped somewhere...
[09:01] <wols_> jariep1_: why don't you want the .deb?
[09:01] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: just into ~, the driver files from the dell site (that I'm trying now) are in ~/DRIVER
[09:01] <jariep1_> wols is ok
[09:01] <intelikey> iKernel no wonder micro-soft hates linux
[09:01] <zzap> Fyda: I'm using Windows currently ... I don't think it can see my Ubuntu install. :/
[09:01] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: are you 32 or 64-bit
[09:01] <jariep1_> not necessary hurry i am in
[09:01] <glick_> anyone have the same problem with flash
[09:01] <glick_> or is it just me?
[09:01] <jariep1_> i am in hurry wols
[09:01] <Skello> wols_ also my problem is not only with Opera. I plan to install another 32 bits java application, thus i doubt that one will work with java for amd64 either. I need to know how to go about installing java i386 on the AMD64 architecture please.
[09:02] <wols_> jariep1_: it is not ok. why don't you use the ubuntu packages or at least use make-jpkg?
[09:02] <oscarello> hi, i have a problem, when I tty to instal runit, it tries to do something with /etc/inittab, the problema is that inittab doesnt exist on my machine, and it gives me an error, any ideas?
[09:02] <jariep1_> how
[09:02] <jariep1_> wols_ how
[09:02] <wols_> Skello: use a 32bit chroot
[09:02] <wols_> !java
[09:02] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:02] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: how many files are in ~/DRIVER?
[09:02] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: umm... I really don't know when I haven't built the computer :)
[09:02] <glick_> i cant watch youtube without flash
[09:02] <glick_> its important!
[09:02] <zzap> Fyda: So what would I do after I type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[09:02] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: 5
[09:02] <wols_> !flash | ubotu
[09:02] <ubotu> ubotu: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:03] <Iggz> Wols, sorry in prepare disk space which option should I chose? Ie, one auto selected is guided resize master partion hda5? new peartion size being min 46 gig
[09:03] <Fyda> zzap: That command reconfigures your graphical server. If you were doing that from the recovery mode console, then you would type "exit" and it'd proceed to boot up into graphical mode.
[09:04] <zzap> Fyda: Ah, ok. And what, it would go back to the default 800x600, etc.?
[09:04] <rxndx> wols_ you are a Linux master!
[09:04] <wols_> rxndx: I am not
[09:04] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: got the same error with the 64-bit inf
[09:04] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: execute this in a terminal: "uname -a" and look to the end of the line... does in say i686 or x86_64
[09:04] <rxndx> wols_ to me... you have an answer for everything! it's awesome!
[09:04] <Iggz> Or would the guided use largest continous free space be best option?
[09:04] <Fyda> zzap: Well, I'm not at your computer, and I don't have your hardware, so I don't know what the exact result would be. But it would attempt to create a safe, working configuration.
[09:05] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: i686
[09:05] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the GNOME Quit dialog ('System' > 'Quit')?
[09:05] <zzap> Fyda: Alright. Thanks. I'll give it a try, and I'll be back if it doesn't go well. :P
[09:05] <zzap> Fyda: Thanks for your help. :)
[09:05] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: ok, you're 32-bit, so you should be using the files from the 32-bit link...
[09:05] <Skello> wols_ i should uninstall the java for amd64 first right?
[09:05] <Fyda> zzap: I'll be gone soon, so I hope someone else can help you if you still have problems afterwards.
[09:05] <zzap> Fyda: Alright.
[09:05] <wols_> Skello: no
[09:06] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: did you extract both files (64 and 32-bit) to the same folder?
[09:06] <Iggz> Bugger it. How much free space does ubuntu need for an install? :-)
[09:06] <wols_> Skello: why do you need a 43bit java for a java app? java uses a VM you know?
[09:06] <wols_> Iggz: there are docs which explain this questin
[09:06] <wols_> Iggz: why don't you read them?
[09:06] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: the dell drivers i'm trying now are all in the one folder
[09:07] <VSpike> Iggz: For a clean install? 2GB I think
[09:07] <Iggz> Inded, sorry WOLs -being very lazy - thank you :-)
[09:07] <Skello> wols_ i don't know. That's why i'm here asking. I said 'i assume i need the 32 bit version' to run a java app. Correct me if i'm wrong please :)
[09:07] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: ok, not good, you need to re-extract the 32-bit driver ZIP to a separate folder, then verify the name of the INF file...
[09:07] <wols_> Skello: you are most certainly wrong. satisfied now?
[09:07] <chief> how do I kill the login manager for a moment ?
[09:07] <ali1234> so how does ubuntu keep the same ethN name for nics when you put in a new one?
[09:07] <wols_> chief: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:08] <chief> wols_: ta
[09:08] <wols_> ali1234: udev
[09:08] <Skello> wols_ of course. Thank you for your assistance. Much appeciated.
[09:08] <wols_> ali1234: it identifies them based on their MAC
[09:08] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: if the name is not the same as in step 13, you need to substitute the INF name you found in that folder
[09:08] <Slart> ali1234: I think it assigns them in the same order it loads drivers for them
[09:08] <ali1234> wols_: already found it
[09:08] <wols_> Slart: not anymore
[09:08] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: its the same
[09:08] <chief> wols_: nice that crashed the entire OS
[09:08] <wols_> chief: what did?
[09:09] <Slart> ali1234: but I think you can specify which card gets which name in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:09] <ali1234> Slart: no, that's how it used to work, and putting a new nic in your router could leave you without a firewall :/
[09:09] <wols_> chief: define "crashed" please
[09:09] <Iggz> VSpike thats what i thought I had read but when I chose guided option on partion tab it tells me there isn't enough free space continous that is - although I know I have at least 24 gig free in at least one of my (windows) partions
[09:09] <chief> wols_: the moment I told gdm to stop
[09:09] <wols_> Slart: please don't answer when you are wrong
[09:09] <wols_> chief: define what you mean with "crash"
[09:09] <Darius08x> weird, gparted isn't letting me resize.
[09:09] <ali1234> Slart: no no no, it's in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:09] <chief> wols_: well crash, as in computer not usable anymore
[09:09] <wols_> ali1234: no. it's in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
[09:09] <someone> bash doesn't seem to be reading in /etc/profile or ~/.profile    anyone know why is this ?
[09:10] <wols_> someone: maybe not a login shell?
[09:10] <ali1234> wols_: that file does not exist on my computer
[09:10] <wols_> someone: or a loginshell
[09:10] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: when i run ndiswrapper -l, it tells me it's invalid
[09:10] <chief> wols_: basically I've got too press the reset button to get the pc back
[09:10] <wols_> ali1234: any file with "25" in there then?
[09:10] <Darius08x> If I double click on it to open up properties I get "warning" (random stuff) Accounting clusters. Cluster accounting failed at 6519 (0x1977); extra cluster in $bitmap over and over
[09:10] <wols_> chief: that's... odd
[09:10] <ali1234> wols_: no
[09:10] <VSpike> Iggz: Have your tried defragging the windows partition from windows first?
[09:11] <VSpike> Iggz: it may be trying to tell you that it can't resize it successfully
[09:11] <chief> wols_: very..
[09:11] <Darius08x> What does that men?
[09:11] <wols_> chief: what videodrivers do you use
[09:11] <someone> wols_  ok.
[09:11] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: remember that linux is case-sensitive, be sure to use the proper case when using "ndiswrapper -i ~/ThIs iS cAsE sEnSiTiVe/DrIvEr.InF"
[09:11] <Iggz> VSpike. thats what i thought but just finished a windows defrag in prep :/
[09:11] <chief> wols_: barebone defaults of what ever ubuntu choose to use for my nvidia geforce 7600gt
[09:12] <ali1234> wols_: nothing beginning with "z" either
[09:12] <wols_> chief: that card should have good drivers. nv or vesa
[09:12] <Darius08x> mean*
[09:12] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: i've definitely got that right
[09:12] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: true, if it hasn't installed any drivers, it can't list the installed drivers using the -l switch
[09:12] <wols_> ali1234: ok. must be a ubuntu/debian difference then
[09:12] <jariep1_> what is the name of the distribution gutsy such and such
[09:12] <VSpike> Iggz: That's wierd then
[09:13] <chief> wols_:  I dislike both, I'd rather have the offical ones, but the docs on that sight are too geekified for me, so I thought I'd shutdown X and install the ones had already downloaded.
[09:13] <wols_> jariep1_: gutsy gibbons aka ubuntu 7.10
[09:13] <ali1234> wols_: this machine was upgraded from feisty
[09:13] <jariep1_> wols_thank you
[09:13] <Iggz> indeed, I thought it was just me :-)
[09:13] <wols_> chief: don't. you break your ubuntu. ubuntu comes with perfectly fine nvidia drivers
[09:13] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: try replacing '~' with '/home/YOURID/driverfolder/drivername.inf' after the -i switch
[09:13] <wols_> chief: the nvidia restricted drivers is what you should use
[09:14] <wols_> not from nvidia.com, not envy, not automatic
[09:14] <wols_> *automatix
[09:14] <VSpike> Iggz: I think you can download a trial copy of acronis - you could try that to create a new partition, and then run the install
[09:14] <chief> wols_: well I tried unstanding that tutorial and well, none of it makes sence
[09:14] <someone> Iggz did you turn off windows page file first and then defrag ?
[09:14] <wols_> VSpike: don't create new partitions. let ubuntu create them
[09:14] <wols_> chief: what is the problem?
[09:15] <VSpike> wols_: why?
[09:15] <chief> wols_: for starters kmenu? that's kde I'm gnome
[09:15] <Iggz> OPk, if I go for the guided installation - resize ide 1  I assume it will delete the windows partions and any data that exists there?
[09:15] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: ha that worked...wow
[09:15] <Iggz> *OK
[09:16] <shadowblade> Triskaidekaphobi: thanks
[09:16] <wols_> chief: same thing tho. select restricted drivers, get nvidia drievrs there. done
[09:16] <Triskaidekaphobi> shadowblade: excellent!
[09:16] <wols_> Iggz: not if it resizes
[09:16] <chief> wols_: restricted drivers from where?
[09:17] <wols_> chief: System . Administration
[09:17] <Iggz> Great - and it wont cause any difficulties in WIndows? ie with the windows registry looking for programs which will no longer be where it thinks they are?
[09:17] <chief> wols_: nvidia-glx-new is not enabled.
[09:17] <wols_> chief: then "enable" it?
[09:18] <chief> lol how ?
[09:18] <wols_> how do you install stuff?
[09:18] <VSpike> Iggz: the resizing is transparent to windows, but backup any essential data first
[09:18] <wols_> become administrator, enable it
[09:18] <VSpike> Iggz: it's pretty reliable, but any disk operation like that is fallible, e.g if the power fails half-way through
[09:18] <chief> wols_: there is no package nvidia-glx-new in the package manager ;)
[09:19] <Iggz> Thank you VSpike.
[09:19] <wols_> but in restricted drivers there is
[09:19] <chief> not on this box
[09:20] <cool_co_one> hai..lh..gabung
[09:20] <Iggz> Anyway, I can always reinstall xp I suppose - as long as any other data is left in tact  :-)
[09:22] <barthj> xfce will be upgraded to 4.4.2 or i have to w8 till HARDY?
[09:23] <Gekone> Buongiorno a tutti.
[09:23] <Iggz> kK, Last daft question - and its really daft I know - how  long does ubuntu take to rezise the partion?
[09:23] <dgjones> !it | Gekone
[09:23] <ubotu> Gekone: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:23] <DiCha_cHa-Cha> peri_cantique
[09:24] <wols_> Iggz: depends on your harddisk size, speed, etc. can't give a number
[09:24] <wols_> barthj: you will have to wait
[09:25] <barthj> i see, thanks
[09:25] <chief> wols_: so you can see why I'm a little confused then, seeing as things aren't where there supposed to be.
[09:26] <Pirate_Hunter> hi can someone tell me how to make gusty pick up my cpu correct reading? It shows I'm running at 2.80GHZ but that's wrong because my prescot is a 3.20Ghz
[09:26] <ali1234> hey, what do you know. i set the nic back to eth0, updated the MAC on the dhcp server and now it works
[09:26] <bullgard4> What are 'QUIRKS' in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend-hybrid?
[09:27] <rgnr> hello ppl
[09:27] <rgnr> gotta quest
[09:27] <rgnr> which is thwe vest torrent client for ybuntu gnome?
[09:27] <wols_> !best
[09:27] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[09:28] <z9999> Does anyone know where the contacts list for evolution is stored?
[09:28] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:28] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the GNOME Quit dialog ('System' > 'Quit')?
[09:28] <rgnr> wols_:  I mean good
[09:28] <wols_> Pirate_Hunter: what's there is the right value, no matter what you think
[09:28] <genericguy> Can someone help me out with this problem: I cant add my JRE (which I just downloaded from Sun) to OpenOffice, it just says it isn't a runtime enviro.
[09:28] <rgnr> wols_:  ktorrent is not good for gnome
[09:29] <rgnr> wols_:  what about deluge or qbittorrent
[09:29] <chief> wols_: like the restricted drivers software is suppose to have some sort of admin button, it doesn't exist
[09:29] <wols_> genericguy: why do you use download it from sun when ubuntu has a perfectly find package?
[09:29] <sasha_> hi
[09:29] <sasha_> how can i see my mainboard version ?
[09:29] <genericguy> wols_: because it didn't work either:(
[09:29] <bullgard4> genericguy: You should not download it from Sun but rather from the Ubuntu repostories. This will work.
[09:29] <wols_> sasha_: usually you can't. you can try dmidecode
[09:29] <genericguy> but it didnt
[09:30] <rgnr> !torrent
[09:30] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[09:30] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: ok will check it out it is just annoying that my cpu is running below the recommended spec and spikes when it reaches 3.20Ghz :(
[09:30] <wols_> genericguy: you sure openoffice (the ubuntu version!) is compiled with java support?
[09:31] <sasha_> ok tnx
[09:31] <genericguy> wols_: its the deb from the repos, installed using synpatic
[09:31] <genericguy> (synaptic)
[09:32] <Pirate_Hunter> wols_: I can't open it, it keeps changing and asks me to reload si there a way around it
[09:33] <raCkz0r> hi
[09:33] <raCkz0r> good nigth
[09:33] <raCkz0r> any here alive?
[09:34] <barth_j> good morning :]
[09:34] <gordonjcp> morning
[09:34] <gordonjcp> that rackz0r dude didn't hang around long
[09:35] <Pirate_Hunter> does anyone know what is proposed updates  is it ok for me to activate it or is it like backend ports or third party and should be left unticked
[09:35] <sasha_> tnx dmidecode works :D
[09:35] <shishirjha> anyone knows how to install openbios?
[09:36] <wols_> shishirjha: whay? you most certainly don't have compatible hardware
[09:36] <wols_> and openbios is vrey offtopic in ubuntu
[09:36] <Carburo> hello
[09:37] <onats_> is there anyway i can upgrade a pre-release gutsy to the final version, without reinstalling?
[09:37] <VSpike> onats_: the update manager should do it for you I think
[09:38] <VSpike> onats_: in other words, it should already have happened
[09:38] <onats_> vspike, it's telling me it can only do a partial upgrade...
[09:38] <endofnite> sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:38] <VSpike> onats_: There may be one package that's stuck or broken.  Best to use the command line and you will see what the problem is
[09:39] <onats_> vspike, ill have it download 666 packages first, then i'll retry the upgrade using command line
[09:39] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the GNOME Quit dialog ('System' > 'Quit')?
[09:40] <VSpike> onats_: sure - it will install what it can, the other packages will stay in the download cache
[09:40] <onats_> vspike, yeah... not sure how it works though.. i'm also testing my apt-cacher... should be cached int he server right?
[09:40] <valizas> hi! What root password is set on an installation made from the Install desktop icon ?
[09:40] <chief> wols_: you could have said add/remove :P
[09:41] <VSpike> onats_: it will be cached in the server and locally too, so your server won't even get hit when you retry from the command line
[09:41] <Armored_Azrael> !sudo > valizas
[09:41] <onats_> vspike, you using apt-cacher?
[09:42] <valizas> Armored_Azrael: because I am asked administration password from the automatic update utility , after the main installation
[09:42] <Armored_Azrael> Use your user password for that
[09:42] <valizas> Armored_Azrael: thank you
[09:43] <Archon> i only need the package "postgresql" in order to run the server, right?
[09:43] <Archon> because i have it
[09:43] <Archon> and nothing happens when i go /etc/init.d/postgresql start
[09:43] <Archon> or restart
[09:43] <Archon> or stop
[09:43] <VSpike> onats_: not really, but I looked at it.   Will get around to setting it up again
[09:44] <VSpike> onats_: I installed it on one machine, but I'm not sure I did it right.  Then I read that apt-proxy was meant to be better, so will probably remove apt-cache and try that instead
[09:46] <onats_> vspike, really? apt-proxy is better? i will take a look...
[09:48] <kazim59> !reconstructor
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconstructor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <kazim59> Is reconstructor officially supported?
[09:49] <psypher246> hey all. is it just me or are the major issues trying to run an ubuntu gutsy host, with vmware 1.0.4 and just BOOTING a gutsy cd in a guest to install. all i get is the initramfs prompt and a lot of rejecting I/O to offline device errors. my iso's are fine
[09:50] <VSpike> onats_: only going by what I read .. will try and find attribution.  Hold on.
[09:50] <lowden28> Hi evrybody - how / were can i make a bootshript - for Jack /qJackctrl automaticly startup with the boot?
[09:51] <VSpike> onats_: OK, admittedly it was from the apt-proxy homepage :D
[09:51] <VSpike> onats_: http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/
[09:51] <VSpike> onats_: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[09:52] <VSpike> onats_: It just says that of all the clones, only apt-cacher is still active and it's not as full featured as apt-proxy
[09:52] <VSpike> onats_: given how mild that it, I'd suggest if you have it working, stick with it, but it's up to you
[09:52] <onats_> so you mean to say apt-proxy was the original?
[09:53] <Fethman> can anyone point me to a suspend2 gudie for gutsy?
[09:54] <Fethman> guide*
[09:54] <psypher246> oh yes i'd like that one too
[09:54] <onats_> fethman, on a laptop?
[09:54] <Fethman> yes
[09:54] <psypher246> me too
[09:54] <onats_> me too
[09:54] <Fethman> :)
[09:54] <onats_> that's still not working for me
[09:54] <psypher246> suspend2 rocks
[09:54] <VSpike> onats_: according to that site, yes.  But the original v1 was a shell script and rather slow, hence the clones I guess.  V2 is a python rewrite, but is not released yet.  So actually having read that maybe apt-cacher is a better choice right now
[09:54] <kazim59> nobody even knows about reconstructor?
[09:54] <onats> vspike, yes.. that's what i read.. the first one was shell script...
[09:55] <Gmac> Morning, can anyone recommend a good torrent program, something like utorrent? tried Azure but it kept locking
[09:55] <FluxD> Gmac: deluge
[09:55] <psypher246> ktorrent isawesome
[09:55] <Gmac> FluxD: Thanks
[09:55] <VSpike> ktorrent is really good if you have kde installed
[09:56] <Gmac> use to use Ktorrent, had to install the kde library's etc?
[09:56] <psypher246> don't even if u use gnome
[09:56] <Gmac> one other quick question - old Ubuntu use to have sticky notes?
[09:56] <Gmac> now its got Tomboy?
[09:56] <Ayabara> I use pidigin without tabbed chats. New chat windows are always placed on top of the last created one. Is there a way to make the windows behave like other apps -> get placed on free desktop space.
[09:57] <VSpike> Gmac: yeah if you don't have kde installed, or any kde apps, then the first kde app you install will pull in a bunch of kde libs.  And the first kde app you run will load a bunch of kde libs
[09:57] <Gmac> VSpike: right, will avoid KDE programs - they should have a split on the repo?
[09:57] <VSpike> Gmac: if you have a reasonably fast machine, a large drive, and no obsession with purity or one true desktop, it's not a problem though :)
[09:57] <Fethman> Hmm so maybe there is no guide for suspend2. I'll try to do it following the gentoo guide then I may write one :)
[09:58] <psypher246> i use kde progs all the time, see no diffrence, ktorrent k3b, all good
[09:58] <psypher246> only run gnome, ever
[09:58] <VSpike> I'm using konversation and amarok, k3b, ktorrent
[09:59] <VSpike> I don't notice any delay in loading
[09:59] <psypher246> does anyone know why i can't even BOOT a gutsy cd oin vmware
[10:00] <Sara> Hi
[10:00] <Armored_Azrael> psypher246: You need to give more detail on your problem before someone can help you--there aren't any issues with Gutsy and VMWare to my knowledge. It's most likely a vm misconfiguration
[10:00] <Armored_Azrael> Hello.
[10:00] <VSpike> I do see some odd things sometimes though.  If I click a url in konversation, firefox opens up something like file:///var/tmp/kdecache-johncc/krun/30082.0.CommonQuestions
[10:01] <Sara> how r u?
[10:01] <psypher246> k, running gutsy as host, vmware 1.0.4 server and trying to boot gutsy desktop in vmware as guest
[10:02] <Armored_Azrael> What error does it give/at what point does it hang?
[10:02] <psypher246> only boots initramfs, like the STOOPID jeos but in this case using ide does not work
[10:03] <cyberfin> mornin... where can I ask a question abouta wlan config issue?
[10:03] <psypher246> get a lot of driev cache write through errors
[10:04] <Armored_Azrael> Do you perhaps have a resizable disk image but not enough space on your drive for it?
[10:04] <lowden28> Hi evrybody - how / were can i make a bootshript - for Jack /qJackctrl automaticly startup with the boot?
[10:04] <psypher246> i think so
[10:04] <psypher246> was bout to mention that
[10:04] <psypher246> busy clearing space to see if thats the problems
[10:04] <psypher246> btw, how do i quote yr name when i reply?
[10:05] <VSpike> psypher246: i most clients you use tab completion
[10:05] <psypher246> ahhah!!
[10:05] <psypher246> VSpike:
[10:06] <psypher246> cool
[10:06] <cyberfin> ok I'll just ask: I'm trying to config a rt2500 chipset usb wireless stick... after uninstalling the network manager and manually setting the config in /etc/network/interfaces, restaring the service, I get this message: ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[10:06] <F1rs7l1n3> xaxa
[10:06] <F1rs7l1n3> koi e admina na mrejata
[10:06] <F1rs7l1n3> ?
[10:06] <VSpike> psypher246: :)
[10:06] <psypher246> VSpike: thanks dude
[10:06] <F1rs7l1n3> A
[10:06] <VSpike> psypher246: yw
[10:06] <F1rs7l1n3> ?
[10:07] <F1rs7l1n3> Wht Is NeTwOrK DeVeLoPeR
[10:07] <cyberfin> can anyone throw me a bone pls?
[10:07] <F1rs7l1n3> Why Is NeTwOrK DeVeLoPeR
[10:07] <FluxD> psypher246: kinda offtopic but tried with virtualbox?
[10:07] <psypher246> btw why would my scripts menu in nautllus suddenly disspear
[10:07] <psypher246> VSpike:  yes i have tried vb. it's cool
[10:07] <psypher246> cyberfin: whats up
[10:07] <cyberfin> ok I'll just ask: I'm trying to config a rt2500 chipset usb wireless stick... after uninstalling the network manager and manually setting the config in /etc/network/interfaces, restaring the service, I get this message: ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[10:08] <willow> ahhhh... where am i now?
[10:08] <cyberfin> that :(
[10:08] <VSpike> !bg
[10:08] <ubotu> опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[10:08] <FluxD> psypher246: make tsure they are executable?
[10:08] <CyberMad> how to add some microsoft windows font on ubuntu? where i should copy the fonts on ubuntu?
[10:08] <dgjones> !fonts | CyberMad
[10:08] <ubotu> CyberMad: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:08] <willow> ahh.. big words in here
[10:09] <psypher246> FluxD: the menu option is gone
[10:09] <cyberfin> I also tried in calling it rausb0 instead of ra0 but to no avail
[10:09] <psypher246> cyberfin: sorry thas a little over my head
[10:09] <CyberMad> thanks
[10:09] <willow> ...
[10:10] <FluxD> psypher246: rightclick option?
[10:10] <cyberfin> any idea where I can find a geek to ask? (more than myself)
[10:10] <psypher246> FluxD: yup
[10:10] <bullgard4> What are 'QUIRKS' in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend-hybrid?
[10:11] <FluxD> psypher246: /home/name/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[10:11] <psypher246> should they be owned by root???
[10:12] <Gmac> also, anyone recommend some good Gnome CD/DVD burning tools
[10:13] <Gmac> their was one program which had a rather cheerful tune but for life of me can't remeber the name
[10:14] <Don64> !burner
[10:14] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:14] <psypher246> FluxD: dang, dunno how just those files were owned by root, but made me owner and it's back
[10:15] <FluxD> psypher246: :)
[10:16] <willow> how do i get out of this place?
[10:16] <psypher246> willow: are u lots
[10:16] <psypher246> lost
[10:16] <willow> very lost
[10:16] <bonzaivoyage>  /exit maybe? lol, i think so
[10:16] <psypher246> where do u need directions too?
[10:16] <willow> i dont no
[10:17] <willow> im so confused
[10:17] <Armored_Azrael> What are you trying to do?
[10:17] <bullgard4> How can I find out what program will be called if I press a button in the GNOME Quit dialog ('System' > 'Quit')?
[10:17] <ticketing> hi everybody
[10:17] <willow> ...i dont no
[10:17] <Amaranth> bullgard4: That's not a separate program, it's a part of gnome-session
[10:17] <Amaranth> willow: To leave close the window
[10:17] <willow> i had a reason for being here but now im lost and confused
[10:18] <ticketing> i`m newby avout linux, can someone tell me how to install canon pixma ip1000
[10:18] <ticketing> find driver and install it
[10:19] <bullgard4> Amaranth: Can you tell me where I would find the source code of /usr/bin/gnome-session?
[10:19] <Armored_Azrael> \
[10:20] <FluxD> !print | ticketing
[10:20] <ubotu> ticketing: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:21] <kazim59> I've inserted Ubuntu LiveCD and I want to create an .iso for the CD.... Do I use mkisofs? and how?
[10:21] <Don64> !iso
[10:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:22] <gandalf> Test
[10:22] <ompaul> fail?
[10:24]  * dgjones wonders if ompaul has become a bot :)
[10:24] <ompaul> highly unlikely
[10:24] <gandalf> bei meinem Ubuntu fehlt der Ausschaltknopf - nur Ruhezustand und Login wechseln. Hat jemand 'ne Idee?
[10:24] <wols_> !de
[10:24] <ompaul> !de | ganadist
[10:25] <ompaul> !de | gandalf
[10:25] <Lumpy^> is there a gui for config vsftpd?
[10:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:25] <ubotu> ganadist: please see above
[10:25] <ubotu> gandalf: please see above
[10:27] <maxsoft> hi all. I need filter the tpc/ip packet to prohibe user upload file. in this way I like filter <input type="file" is it possible?
[10:27] <maren_> could anyone be so kind and tell me on which channel I can ask questions about music players, etc?
[10:28] <esox> Hi, I need help to compile fglrx kernel modules, I have an error...
[10:29] <ompaul> maren_, you can ask specific questions for help but a lot of players have their own channel
[10:29] <celoserpa> does anyone know where I can find a high-resolution (1280x1024) version of the famous tux vs msn butterfly wallpaper?
[10:29] <celoserpa> :)
[10:29] <kazim59> I want to copy ubuntu live cd as an iso.... mkisofs -o myiso.iso /media/cdrom .... is this sufficient? or do I need to add -r option too?
[10:29] <ompaul> celoserpa, if only there was a way to search the internet
[10:31] <zoidberg_> guys has anyone here used the Prosper package for making slides?
[10:31] <zoidberg_> can anyone help me out?
[10:31] <esox> hello, I have an error when compiling fglrx kernel modules
[10:31] <zoidberg_> i just installed prosper using apt-get...but how do i run it?
[10:31] <Trogdor3634> Question: If I mount an NTFS partition using gparted with NTFS-3G installed, is there any magic word I need to say to avoid it mounting as a read-only partition?
[10:31] <void^> kazim59: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=your.iso
[10:32] <celoserpa> ompaul, I couldn't find the high resolution image
[10:32] <FluxD> zoidberg_: in terminal type in proper?
[10:32] <FluxD> zoidberg_: in terminal type in prosper?