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 @acheronuk have you pushed that kwallet-pam fix to kubuntu_cosmic_archive?
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 @Santa, pushed it now, but had lost my original clone somehow :(
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 thank you very much
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:58] <femme> hi
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[12:36] <femme> Another update to the saga of ws-discovery: nmap supports it https://nmap.org/nsedoc/scripts/wsdd-discover.html
 thanks so much for following up on this, femme!
 The more the better! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1771259 … Seriously, it'd be good to get as many people as possible testing it.
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 @acheronuk wrt your last commit to KA, which package you used to test that?
 @Santa, k3b
 thank you, I need to cherry-pick and test that for the other script
 yeah. k3b when built with a real tar but KCI branches, was not installing the html transalted docs, but QA script was missing it
 seems like a good catch, once I get that done I would release the alpha 7
 btw how are you doing with cosmic packaging, are you going to upload new frameworks?
 Hey Santa
 Rik got access to Bileto, so he's using that for Frameworks soon.
 @tsimonq2, Like.  I'm also using Cosmic.
 @santa interesting to try it with bileto, as can build it all in a landing ppa, and then publish to -proposed all at once
 i see .. thinking when will i go for cosmic .. maybe later ..
 which might avoid some of the autotest pain
 plus it's good to learn how to do it anyway
 @tsimonq2, would be better if arm* hadn't got backlogged when I went to rebuild. 🙄
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/o74LTKRI/file_6835.mp4
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/7e0WE0SC/file_6836.mp4
 does anyone else experience the "ambiguous shortcut" error when hitting Ctrl+Q in System Settings on Bionic?
 @nggraham, seems to quit it here
 ok, probably something wrong with my config then
 sorry for the noise!
[17:46] <acheronuk> FYI all. I just uploaded LP: #1768245
[17:46] <acheronuk> we will need to get good validation
 What is that for?
 @ahoneybun, the bug? the whole of plasma 5.12.5 as an archive SRU update for bionic if we can
 ubotto has to ref one package for the bug though, and has that odd choice to display here
 Ah.
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 so I am able to reproduce the ctrl+q ambiguous shortcut dialog issue in System Settings with a new fresh user account... Can anyone else confirm?
 (basically make a new user account, open System Settings, then hit Ctrl+Q)


[15:19] <tsimonq2> I've found a shiny bug and this is the farthest I've gotten in setting up LP, so hi. :)
[15:20] <tsimonq2> With bug 1686242 - turns out the Librarian stores the buildinfo file, you can access it if you scroll through database queries to find the correct ID, but it's not linked on the build page once complete.
[15:20] <mup> Bug #1686242: .changes files reference .buildinfo files that aren't exposed <Launchpad itself:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1686242>
[15:20] <tsimonq2> The buildinfo files aren't marked as private, they aren't non-accessible, just not referenced well.
[15:21] <tsimonq2> I'm looking for any pointers or any specific functions in which I could implement this.
[15:23] <tsimonq2> (As far as my setup goes, two LXD virtual machines (yes, not containers, explicitly virtual machines), one has Launchpad itself and the other has launchpad-buildd. I'm able to successfully build packages when uploaded to "Lunar" but not PPAs, weirdly enough, where nothing is even dispatched.)
[15:24] <tsimonq2> By tracking ./scripts/process-upload.py /var/tmp/builddmaster [etc.] I found the database calls for the Librarian - after that point the ID seems "lost" to the end user.
[15:25] <tsimonq2> Anyway, I'll lurk here for a while. Let me know your thoughts.
[16:03] <tsimonq2> It looks like the solution is to insert two rows into SourcePackageReleaseFile, one for the changes file and one for the buildinfo file. Makes everything work.
[16:13] <tsimonq2> In other news, sourcepackagerelease isn't updated with the correct buildinfo from the buildd, instead it holds onto the source upload's buildinfo. I suspect those ones could be cleaned up, I think only the finished buildinfo files are useful.
[16:18] <tsimonq2> 472-476@SQL-main-primary UPDATE BinaryPackageBuild SET buildinfo=239 WHERE BinaryPackageBuild.id = 36
[16:18] <tsimonq2> That makes more sense, so the source package has the original buildinfo and the binarypackage has the updated buildinfo
[17:30] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: would need to check an actual MP, but linking them as SPRFs _sounds_ reasonable at least
[17:31] <cjwatson> I don't think it's quite correct to think of source buildinfo as being "original" and binary buildinfo as being "updated" though
[17:31] <cjwatson> They're from different build passes
[17:35] <tsimonq2> I have a diff currently that adds the binary buildinfo file as an SPRF. Should the uploaded buildinfo file also be visible anywhere? Otherwise my next step was tackling source.changes.
[17:37] <tsimonq2> Oh, wait. That buildinfo file has an arch on it, so that doesn't seem exactly right.
[17:39] <tsimonq2> Okay, so the source.buildinfo should probably be an SPRF and the amd64.buildinfo should probably be a BPRF.
[19:17] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: I have some code pushing right now which should correctly expose those buildinfo files. My only remaining concern is about the .changes files, which would be useful for using a tool like dget.
[19:20] <tsimonq2> https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/448527
[19:47] <cjwatson> The main concern about .changes files is that we mustn't expose the signed copies.
[19:48] <tsimonq2> Ah, okay.
[19:48] <cjwatson> Because the signed versions act as upload instructions, so they could potentially be misused.  Unsigned versions are fine to expose though.
[19:49] <tsimonq2> Makes sense. I think the buildinfo would be a good start to at least simplify queue reviews, though. :)
[19:49] <cjwatson> Hopefully this is obvious, but we'll need tests for your change.
[19:50] <tsimonq2> Sounds good.


[00:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Alright, tested the new Plasma (just added the PPA and upgraded everything in a VM), everything seems to be working fine so far.
 ppa worked fine on real hw here...
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/45b399e9/the_simpsons_mr_burns.mp4
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[23:11] <arraybolt3> Uh... is it normal that on the 22.04.1 ISO the Kubuntu logo is significantly shifted down on the Plymouth screen during ISO bootup?
[23:39] <arraybolt3[m]> RikMills:  How's that for a screenshot?
[23:39]  * arraybolt3[m] uploaded an image: (1354KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/pOHsBNoHYsPyezZpOBokmOOg/Kubuntu22.04.1.png >


[00:35] <combinatoric> is anyone interested in working on adding a hibernate function to Ubuntu Studio?
[00:35] <combinatoric> I can get it to work from the command line but it would be nice for it to be included on the shut down options
[00:36] <fibz_> studio has hibernate, it is disabled by default untill you test to ensure it works on your hardware
[00:36] <combinatoric> ok. I run sudo pm hibernate and it works
[00:36] <combinatoric> but when I turn on my computer it loads into my User Account, not into the main start page
[00:38] <combinatoric> what's the best way to enable it?
[00:42] <fibz_> sorry, i've been googleing this whole time.  i've beenhaving trouble finding even the most simple things in search engines lately... heres one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361734/hibernation-is-still-missing-from-menu-in-13-10-after-enabling-via-polkit-how-t
[00:54] <combinatoric> cool I will check it out. thanks
[01:21] <butcho> hi
[01:27] <fibz_> did you need help with something?
[02:57] <potential> Hello, I would like to ask a question that perhaps don't have much to do with Ubuntu Studio itself that much.
[08:54] <vadimkolchev> hi all. how can I convert flv to 3gp easily? didn't do anything of it in linux
[09:14] <Patero-ng> hello
[09:14] <Patero-ng> I'd like to talk about security in ubuntu
[09:18] <cfhowlett> Patero-ng, general security discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic or an actual solveable problem
[09:19] <cfhowlett> ?
[09:27] <Patero-ng> I'd like to know if timming works
[15:37] <guest-03CRQ3> buenas al personal
[20:35] <kidx> hello how do I set up IDJC
[20:35] <kidx> any one got a english video link?
[20:52] <holstein> video?
[20:52] <holstein> kidx: you can just install and run it
[20:52] <holstein> !proaudio
[20:52] <holstein> you'll likely want to use it with jack..
[20:52] <holstein> you can ask in #opensourcemusicians ..but it pretty much click/configure and run
[20:53] <kidx> I am new to this
[20:53] <kidx> i like what i see but all the sound is not right
[20:53] <holstein> kidx: maybe you can find an easier way to do what you are doing
[20:53] <kidx> I could if i had a tutorial
[20:53] <holstein> kidx: sure.. for what?
[20:53] <kidx> but none are in english
[20:53] <kidx> I learn by video
[20:53] <holstein> kidx: the issue with tutorials are, your hardware is differet
[20:54] <holstein> kidx: there is no one with a video on your specific hardware about runing JACK
[20:54] <kidx> no
[20:54] <zequence> kidx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqzyjDeEAw4
[20:54] <kidx> ii dont car for that
[20:54] <kidx> i just need to learn how to use it
[20:54] <kidx> let along driver stuff
[20:55] <holstein> kidx: i used it with JACK.. it requires JACK, AFAIK
[20:55] <zequence> jack is a pro audio server, which you need to run manually
[20:55] <zequence> It's not a big deal to learn
[20:55] <zequence> Takes five minutes
[20:55] <kidx> so i cant talk on skpye
[20:55] <kidx> and talk to my buddys
[20:56] <zequence> kidx: Sure you caqn
[20:56] <kidx> reminds me of ASIO
[20:56] <zequence> kidx: if you're on Ubuntu Studio, that is
[20:56] <kidx> but for linux
[20:56] <kidx> and better coded
[20:56] <kidx> i am
[20:56] <zequence> sort of, though ASIO is about drivers, not an audio server
[20:56] <zequence> jack is an audio server, which uses ALSA drivers
[20:57] <zequence> you can read more about that in the link that holstein provided you with
[20:57] <kidx> oh so whats the big differ besides it being server what the advantages
[20:57] <kidx> i guess better all aroud preformance no blue screens of death
[20:57] <zequence> it's a system which allows any application that supports jack to connect to any other jack application
[20:58] <zequence> so, a lot better than ASIO
[20:58] <kidx> ok
[20:58] <kidx> well ill look at the video
[20:58] <kidx> ill look aroud for jack tutorials
[20:58] <kidx> and come back if i need to
[20:58] <kidx> my goal is to learn IDJC
[20:58] <zequence> kidx: On UBuntu Studio, after starting jack, if you want to hear desktop audio, just set desktop audio to use jack as output
[20:58] <kidx> and do my radio
[20:58] <holstein> kidx: its really qutie simple.. JACK is the challenging bit
[20:58] <holstein> kidx: you dont need either to do "radio"
[20:59] <kidx> huh
[20:59] <zequence> kidx: Basically, you need to select the correct device, and click start. That's it
[20:59] <kidx> i am trying to use mixx
[20:59] <holstein> kidx: you can, for example, run a simple streaming application, and use an external mixer to route your voice and music
[20:59] <holstein> or, several machines
[20:59] <holstein> there are many ways to do "raiod"
[20:59] <holstein> radio*
[20:59] <kidx> well i need to learn this
[20:59] <holstein> jack with idjc is just one way.. and it will work, but i wouldnt get too worried about it
[20:59] <kidx> i am so used to plug and pray on linux
[21:00] <kidx> I dont really lean nothing techinicall
[21:00] <kidx> sorry windows
[21:00] <zequence> The audio in linux is scattered into many systems. It hasn't been prioritized
[21:00] <kidx> i wanna learn better things
[21:00] <zequence> But, it works
[21:00] <kidx> sounds better than widnows for sure
[21:01] <kidx> so how do i exaclty connect to my server with shoutcast with IDJC
[21:01] <zequence> on any OS you have to learn a few things to get going. Linux is easier in the mainstream part, but as soon as you step out of that, things can get a bit steeper
[21:02] <zequence> Still, it's not that challenging
[21:02] <kidx> I learn from eacthing and doing less typing
[21:02] <kidx> watching
[21:03] <zequence> kidx: Always start jack first. Make sure to select the correct device. Then start your jack application and set it up for your needs
[21:05] <kidx> jack is open
[21:05] <zequence> you mean, you started jack with qjackctl, or you opened qjackctl?
[21:06] <kidx> i just opened jack
[21:06] <kidx> Qjackctl
[21:06] <kidx> i tihnk
[21:06] <zequence> jack is not qjackctl
[21:06] <zequence> qjackctl is just a gui application to control jack
[21:07] <zequence> jack is a headless audio server, which can be controlled by numerous applications
[21:07] <kidx> so then qjackctl will do
[21:08] <zequence> in Setup, choose your audio device, under "Interface"
[21:08] <zequence> There are two arrows, use the one that points to the right
[21:08] <zequence> You should see stuff like hw:0, hw:1, with names attached
[21:09] <zequence> Internal devices are usually called Intel something
[21:09] <zequence> Don't select input and output separately, that will only confuse things
[21:09] <zequence> usually, the internal device is listed at the top, which is the same as default, but that can change at each boot
[21:10] <zequence> Actually, newer qjackctl doesn't say hw:0, hw:1, it says things like hw:Intel
[21:10] <zequence> This is better, cause it means that the device you select will remain the same after each boot
[21:11] <zequence> kidx: any particular audio device you are using, or just your internal audio device?
[21:11] <kidx> just internal
[21:11] <kidx> i see alot of stuff
[21:11] <kidx> in qjackctl
[21:11] <zequence> kidx: so, probably it's the first choice. I would be hw:Intel
[21:11] <kidx> what goes where lol
[21:12] <kidx> i need to set each program up
[21:12] <zequence> kidx: You don't need to know anything else at the moment. Just the device
[21:12] <kidx> i need to watch a video
[21:12] <zequence> once you selected the correct device, you start jack, and unless you need low latencies, you are good to go
[21:13] <kidx> i hear my song
[21:13] <kidx> woot
[21:13] <kidx> lol
[21:13] <kidx> but i need to get mic working
[21:17] <holstein> test the mic independently.. JACK/linux wont "fix" the mic
[21:20] <kidx> it works
[21:20] <kidx> just to get it going on the radio
[21:20] <kidx> i am trying to get ti connect to my server
[21:20] <kidx> and stuff
[21:21] <holstein> you route it in JACK, and use idjc
[21:21] <holstein> i used BUTT to test my icecast server. to troubleshoot
[21:22] <holstein> http://butt.sourceforge.net/
[21:22] <holstein> didnt require JACK
[21:22] <kidx> sounds nicer
[21:22] <kidx> just use a medai player
[21:22] <kidx> lol
[21:22] <holstein> i also just use BUTT on a machine, and routed my mic in with hardware
[21:23] <holstein> i also used a few different machines with analog connections
[21:23] <kidx> how you use mic
[21:23] <kidx> like to talk
[21:23] <holstein> kidx: above are a few ways i did
[21:23] <holstein> kidx: you can connect with hardware, if you have such hardware.. and use idjc to route it, or use JACK.. or other ways
[21:24] <kidx> wow
[21:24] <zequence> Connections in qjackctl?
[21:24] <kidx> the sounds on this are<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000 better than sam broadcaster
[21:24] <zequence> I haven't used that applications myself
[21:24] <kidx> i want IDJC working
[21:24] <holstein> the sound should be whatever you have it configured as
[21:24] <kidx> i am not gona stop till i figure this out
[21:25] <zequence> in qjackctl you have "Connect" in which you can connect applications and your audio hardware anyway you like
[21:25] <zequence> Though, you might need to raise the volume for your mic using a mixer
[21:25] <kidx> i just need my mic fixed
[21:26] <zequence> The desktop audio (pulseaudio) mixer might do, but if not, use an alsa mixer
[21:26] <kidx> and route skype and fix every thing
[21:26] <kidx> then i am happy
[21:26] <kidx> and broadcast to the world
[21:26] <holstein> kidx: skype?
[21:26] <zequence> you can't route skype in itself, but you can route all desktop audio to jack
[21:26] <holstein> skype is not required for this
[21:26] <kidx> i wanna get skype audio on my cast
[21:26] <holstein> i used an icecast server
[21:26] <zequence> in the desktop audio mixer (settings) set output to jack
[21:27] <holstein> kidx: you can always use a seperate machine and do analog connections from a box running skype
[21:28] <zequence> When using jack, desktop audio will no longer be connected to your hardware
[21:28] <zequence> (this is if you have the pulseaudio-jack-module installed, which you have)
[21:28] <zequence> ..otherwise too, sorry, but with this module you can connect desktop audio to jack
[21:28] <zequence> In a sence, desktop audio becomes like a jack application
[21:29] <zequence> So, in order to connect to your hardware, you need to set desktop audio input and output to use jack
[21:29] <zequence> jack then connects to your hardware
[21:34] <kidx> this is frustrating now
[21:34] <kidx> i had it right now i messed it up
[21:35] <kidx> i am trying to get it to work rioght
[21:40] <kidx> how i go online
[21:41] <holstein> kidx: are you asking how to get online?
[21:41] <holstein> kidx: on the internet? this chat is on the internet..
[21:42] <kidx> no
[21:42] <kidx> how do i cast my radio
[21:42] <kidx> its not connecting
[21:42] <kidx> lol
[21:43] <holstein> kidx: as i said above, i use butt to troubleshoot
[21:43] <holstein> kidx: i used it to connect to a known good server that my friends were using that i knew could be connected to
[21:43] <holstein> then, i used BUTT, to remove JACK configs from the equation
[21:44] <holstein> from there, i went to using the same settings in idjc, and eventually went to something else
[21:45] <kidx> setting aint the issue i hear it
[21:45] <kidx> my issue is IDJC wont connect
[21:45] <holstein> kidx: sure.. but why?
[21:45] <holstein> kidx: is it client or server side
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: playback is irrelevant.. the connection is what im suggestion you troubleshoot
[21:46] <kidx> i dont care about play back
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: sure
[21:46] <kidx> i care avbout connecting to y server
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: and i understant your furstrations.. but, what you are saying is, you are not connecting to the server
[21:46] <kidx> if i cant connect to my server then radio is erelevetn
[21:46] <holstein> kidx: and im suggestion troubleshooting techniques
[21:47] <holstein> kidx: ping it.. try another server with your client that is "known good"
[21:47] <kidx> yes but i cant get the server to connect
[21:47] <kidx> i can connect with mixxx
[21:47] <holstein> try another client that you are more comfortable with and see that the server is up
[21:47] <holstein> double check your settings.. etc
[21:47] <kidx> but mixxx freezes when i use certain stuff
[21:47] <kidx> so  renders that useless
[21:48] <holstein> not really.. you can troubleshoot it as well, if you like
[21:48] <holstein> you are determining its "useless"
[21:50] <kidx> no
[21:50] <kidx> what i am saying is i cant connect to my server but ok
[21:50] <zequence> The guy behind qjackctl (not jack itself though), and a bunch of other really common linux audio apps http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/
[21:50] <kidx> mixx can connect
[21:50] <kidx> but it freezes on eer alsa device
[21:51] <holstein> kidx: ok. and you have removed the settings and double checked the credentials?
[21:51] <kidx> butt may be my last option
[21:51] <holstein> kidx:  i suggested you try BUTT *first* as a troubleshooting setp
[21:51] <holstein> step*
[21:51] <holstein> not a replacement..
[21:54] <holstein> exit
[21:55] <zequence> holstein: ERROR: this is not a bash login session
[21:55] <zequence> sorry, just jerking around
[21:56] <holstein> does not compute ;)
[22:13] <kidx> well i cant even get anything to worl through mixxx
[22:13] <kidx> just keeps freexing
[22:13] <holstein> kidx: so, you are assuming the client is the issue, then
[22:13] <kidx> no
[22:14] <holstein> kidx: you'll want to confirm the issue is not server side somehow
[22:14] <kidx> i dont know
[22:14] <holstein> kidx: correct.. you dont konw, so you'll want to confirm.. so you do know
[22:14] <kidx> i was just on the server with IDJC
[22:14] <kidx> but when i connec tto the server the audio goes messed up and hangs like a buzzer and freezed and crashes
[22:14] <holstein> kidx: then, relax the settings
[22:15] <kidx> i tihnk it is teh idjc settings
[22:15] <kidx> theya re not mayching teh server sets
[22:15] <holstein> kidx: thats a nice place to start then..
[22:15] <kidx> there for a glitch
[22:15] <holstein> i would also relax my JACK settings, since, latency is not likely an issue
[22:16] <kidx> i also am using shoucast 1
[22:16] <kidx> not 2
[22:16] <kidx> so i dont thnk i can use IDJC for that
[22:16] <holstein> kidx: dont think at all. look it up and confirm
[22:16] <kidx> look where
[22:16] <holstein> kidx: i setup a local icecast server to test with, to remove things fromt equation
[22:16] <kidx> IDJC has nothing on it
[22:17] <kidx> there is one site that i dont understadn totally
[22:17] <kidx> thats the official site
[22:20] <kidx> connection to server one has failed
[22:20] <kidx> weird
[22:25] <kidx> love the crash
[22:26] <holstein> the crash?
[22:27] <holstein> have you relaxed your JACK settings? and the stream settings?
[22:29] <schultza> Where do I ask about setting up virtual surround sound volumes on a usb digital device? Ubuntu is reporting two devices on USB audio. Digital and Stereo as seperate devices which is correct. But on the digital, I still only get Left and Right channels only.
[22:30] <holstein> ideally, you would ask the manufacturer.. but, you could try an alsa support avenue... otherwise, i just use pavucontrol or alsamixer.. the usual tools
[22:30] <holstein> !audio
[22:30] <schultza> alsamixer doesnt show the other channels i need to change volumes on
[22:31] <schultza> the manufacturer (logitech) doesnt do linux drivers.
[22:31] <holstein> schultza: and, it may never show them, since you were not promised it would in linux
[22:31] <holstein> schultza: if the drivers that alsa is doing it best to offer you are not working..
[22:32] <schultza> well, heres what I did so far. I set the channels to 8 (7.1 virtual surround for this device) and it started playing on all channels, just the volumes are really low on the other channels. so i knwo it can do it.
[22:33] <schultza> its the channels i need to change volume on, but the normal software isnt allowing me to target those specifically
[22:34] <holstein> schultza: sure.. and it may never do that.. have you tried an alsa support venue?
[22:34] <holstein> schultza: you can also try main #ubuntu
[22:34] <schultza> they sent me here, holstein
[22:34] <schultza> and no, i havent tried alsa support venue.
[22:35] <holstein> schultza: "they"?
[22:35] <schultza> #ubuntu
[22:35] <holstein> schultza: you can go back there if you like, and ask the question about surround support.. which is not ubuntustuduio specific
[22:36] <holstein> schultza: but, the "best" is going to be alsa.. or the manufacturer
[22:36] <schultza> in #alsa? or the website?
[22:38] <holstein> schultza: whever will work
[22:38] <schultza> k. thnx
[22:38] <holstein> schultza: its challenging, because youare asking folks who are not allowed or encouraged to help you by the folks who *can* ideally help you
[22:38] <holstein> schultza: i would look for someone with the hardware and ask
[22:38] <schultza> hmm... then logitech et al are idiots.
[22:39] <holstein> well, they didint promise you linux support
[22:40] <schultza> i know.. .was curious. :) but roccat seems to have linux support. based on sound card support for true 5.1 surround sound.
[22:41] <holstein> i have been doing that.. just returning/selling or giving away things that done have the support for the operating system im using
[22:41] <holstein> otherwise, its just challenging, and you are repsonsible for all support
[22:50] <schultza> hmm.. i may have to do this... http://www.rpgameplace.de/blog/index.php?/archives/25-Virtual-Surround-for-stereo-headphones-with-ALSA.html
[22:51] <schultza> :)


[04:16] <Guest13147> hello friends
[04:47] <Guest13147> I have a query regarding node detection in maas
[04:59] <alexlist> Guest13147: just ask your question...
[05:02] <Guest13147> Do we need to install  tftp-hpa separately  in the cluster controller for the node detection ?
[05:02] <Guest13147> and how maas will detect a new node. Do we need to configure it in maas ?
[08:33] <Guest13147> hi friends, can anybody help me with the node detection in maas
[09:29] <Ramefa> hi channel, I'm trying to get Maas working on my rack. Discovery of the node works but the IPMI part fail while commissioning. Looking in rackd.log I got this error which leads to exceptions in defer.py:
[09:29] <Ramefa> 	provisioningserver.drivers.power.PowerActionError: Failed to power query <IP_ADDRESS>:
[09:29] <Ramefa> 2016-04-26 08:14:37+0100 [-] Unhandled failure dispatching AMP command. This is probably a bug. Please ensure that this error is handled within application code or declared in the signature of the b'PowerQuery' command. [MaaS:pid=10895:cmd=PowerQuery:ask=44]
[09:29] <Ramefa> 	Traceback (most recent call last):
[09:29] <Ramefa> 	  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 1184, in gotResult
[09:29] <Ramefa> 	    _inlineCallbacks(r, g, deferred)
[09:30] <Ramefa> Any one knows how to fix this ?
[13:31] <mup> Bug #919913 opened: cron.d/remote_syslog_compress should skip .bz2 files <amd64> <apport-bug> <precise> <running-unity> <MAAS:New> <orchestra (Ubuntu):Confirmed for lynxman> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/919913>
[13:43] <mup> Bug #1574113 opened: curtin/maas don't support derived repositories. We need a way to specify an archive key <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574113>
[13:58] <mup> Bug #1574113 changed: curtin/maas don't support derived repositories. We need a way to specify an archive key <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574113>
[14:01] <mup> Bug #1574113 opened: curtin/maas don't support derived repositories. We need a way to specify an archive key <curtin:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574113>
[14:15] <roaksoax> smoser: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1574113
[14:15] <roaksoax> smoser: we need a way to tell curtin about the mirror/archive key
[14:15] <roaksoax> smoser: apt_mirror_key is what's added
[14:16] <roaksoax> smoser: cripto proposed a branch there
[14:31] <mup> Bug #1575209 opened: After enlisting IBM S822LC 8335 GTA autodetects IPMI 1.5 instead of IPMI 2.0 <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575209>
[14:33] <richardldn> does wol exist in maas 2?
[14:49] <mup> Bug #1575209 changed: After enlisting IBM S822LC 8335 GTA autodetects IPMI 1.5 instead of IPMI 2.0 <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575209>
[14:52] <mup> Bug #1575209 opened: After enlisting IBM S822LC 8335 GTA autodetects IPMI 1.5 instead of IPMI 2.0 <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575209>
[16:35] <mimizone> Hi all. anybody could point me to examples of how udev rules could be added in the enlist/commission/deploy steps? I need to create symlinks on NICs. I use Maas 1.9
[17:44] <mup> Bug #1575209 changed: After enlisting IBM S822LC 8335 GTA autodetects IPMI 1.5 instead of IPMI 2.0 <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575209>
[20:02] <mup> Bug #1575337 opened: [2.0a4] maas.log is empty <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575337>
[20:35] <mup> Bug #1575337 changed: [2.0a4] maas.log is empty <systemd (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575337>
[20:56] <mup> Bug #1575337 opened: [2.0a4] maas.log is empty <systemd (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575337>
[21:01] <mup> Bug #1575337 opened: [2.0a4] maas.log is empty <systemd (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575337>
[21:02] <mup> Bug #1575337 changed: [2.0a4] maas.log is empty <maas (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575337>
[21:30] <DavidRama> Hi, started my maas today but got issue on several nodes. They're detected but no "power" icon in the collumn.  Is there a way to correct this behaviour ? Also sometimes my nodes when commisionned have their hardrive not detecte
[22:11] <mup> Bug #1575337 changed: syslog.log is completely empty <rsyslog (Ubuntu):New> <systemd (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575337>
[22:14] <mup> Bug #1436471 changed: maas DHCP is a SPOF <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436471>
[22:14] <mup> Bug #1436473 changed: maas DNS is a SPOF <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436473>
[22:14] <mup> Bug #1436474 changed: maas tftp is a SPOF <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1436474>
[22:39] <mup> Bug #1379570 changed: maas config files have inconsistent naming scheme <canonical-is> <trivial> <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379570>
[23:39] <mup> Bug #1575337 opened: syslog.log is completely empty <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1575337>


 Anything to watch out for?
[18:43] <m0nkey_> Electricity?
[18:44] <penguin42> well yes, that's something I don't like; but I'm having a problem of an unreliable gas boiler and I'd like a way of still having a shower when it goes
[18:45] <m0nkey_> Used to have one back in England. They're fine if properly installed.
[18:45] <m0nkey_> If you have low water pressure, then you might want to consider a 'power shower' which has a pump.
[18:45]  * penguin42 waits for the 'but'
[18:46] <m0nkey_> I always found the regular electric showers to be a little bit weedy in terms of water jet power
[18:46] <penguin42> the water pressure is fine with the current gas boiler/shower cobmo that doesn't include a tank so is mains pressure
[18:46] <m0nkey_> Should be fine then
[18:47] <m0nkey_> My old house had low pressure, so the shower wasn't that great. Same for my parents, low pressure. Just makes it feel weedy.
[18:48] <m0nkey_> Other than that, they're pretty cheap to run since you don't have the hot water heater going all the time.


[00:07] <tsimonq2> slangasek: With very similar reasoning to the removal of src:gitlab, I agree with bug 1759715 as well.
[00:10] <slangasek> tsimonq2: I have the deb installed currently and am not in a position to think more deeply about it than that at the moment
[00:28] <tsimonq2> slangasek: OK.
[00:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted xapp [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.4-2fakesync1]
[01:22] <tsimonq2> So, just for general notation, I've added rls-bb-incoming to bug 1754174 and bug 1759732. These should be fixed before the Lubuntu 18.04 release, but I'd probably spend triple the time on these as someone who knows the code well would. If it comes down to it, I can throw patches, but it'd really be good to get some eyes from people more knowledgeable about the packages.
[01:26] <tsimonq2> Meh, s/should be/need to be/ because these are release blockers.
[01:35] <tsimonq2> infinity: Could c-cycle please be registered in Launchpad so I can start throwing bugs at it?
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[06:47] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, I found and I have a fix for dh-stripnondeterminism testsuite sadness, but I want to discuss it with you
[06:47] <LocutusOfBorg> let me know if you are available
[06:47] <LocutusOfBorg> (this is the last debhelper blocker)
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[08:28] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, tltr, now perl if (eval{require Debian::Debhelper::Dh_Lib}) { requires a debian/ directory
[08:29] <LocutusOfBorg> so  one can change debian/test/testsuite of strip-nondeterminism to do cp -rv t/ bin/ debian/ "$tmp"
[08:29] <LocutusOfBorg> and "fix" even if it seems a bad approach to me, but is it "understandable" that require Debian::Debhelper::Dh_Lib requires actually a Debian directory where launched?
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[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted facter [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [3.10.0-4]
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted facter [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [3.10.0-4]
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted facter [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [3.10.0-4]
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted facter [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [3.10.0-4]
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted facter [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [3.10.0-4]
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted facter [i386] (bionic-proposed) [3.10.0-4]
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[15:16] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: is there are chance today that we can start a cloud-init SRU  v.18.2 for artful and xenial  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=cloud-init https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=cloud-init
[15:17] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: in a meeting at the moment
[15:18] <blackboxsw> thx bdmurray hrm, well it actually looks like it's in proposed pocket.... just not listed yet in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html yet. I guess I need to just wait for SRU processing.
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.4.0-118.142]
[15:39] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: why are there 2 uploads for artful?
[15:40] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: the more recent one is the correct one (same content but the older upload leaked LP bug numbers in the debian/changelog that we shouldn't have)
[15:41] <blackboxsw> so we pushed again about 5 hours later
[15:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (artful-proposed) [18.2-0ubuntu1~17.10.1]
[15:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (xenial-proposed/main) [17.1-11-ga4c9636b-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 => 18.1-1-g45564eef-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (ubuntu-server)
[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: curtin (artful-proposed/main) [17.1-11-ga4c9636b-0ubuntu1~17.10.1 => 18.1-1-g45564eef-0ubuntu1~17.10.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: linux-signed-azure (bionic-proposed/primary) [4.15.0-1003.3]
[16:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (artful-proposed) [1:17.10.14]
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:16.04.13]
[17:02] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: I think it's reasonable to say that the debhelper library should require a debian package directory to act on; and I had started to think in that direction already on strip-nondeterminism, thanks for getting there before me
[17:09] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, I presume you will upload?
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> or I can do it, assuming mapreri can patch the source code in Debian too
[17:11] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, I have it ready to upload btw :)
[17:27] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: as I said, you got there before me.  I'm off work today and not going to get to it very soon
[17:31] <LocutusOfBorg> so, have a nice day, and come back hopefully with a migrated debhelper :)
[17:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [source] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1003.3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtgvoip [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.3-3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtgvoip [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.3-3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtgvoip [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.3-3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtgvoip [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.3-3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtgvoip [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.3-3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtgvoip [i386] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.3-3]
[17:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (bionic-proposed/none) [4.15.0-1003.3] (no packageset)
[17:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected linux-signed-azure [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1003.3]
[18:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ceph [source] (artful-proposed) [12.2.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[18:25] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: What is your reasoning for removing rls-bb-incoming from bug 1759732 without it having an assignee? It's release-critical for Lubuntu.
[18:26] <tsimonq2> I thought I read the docs for this the other day, which is why I thought I'd ask.
[18:28] <bdmurray> Because I targetted it to the release
[18:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3.3]
[18:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (xenial-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu20]
[18:42] <ginggs> slangasek: regarding node-is-glob and node-is-descriptor, I think they have become entangled with nodejs, and the solution is to upload 4.0.0.REALLY.3.0.0-1 versions of them to fix the autopkgtest regressions in their deps
[18:44] <ginggs> slangasek: and node-ip has no rdeps and I think it should be removed - RC debian bug #892658
[18:48] <ginggs> slangasek: node-gulp-coffee and node-miller-rabin autopkgtests are timing out on slower architectures, do you want to force-badtest, or do you prefer an upload with relaxed timeout?
[18:59] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: ok
[19:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: landscape-client (artful-proposed/main) [16.03-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 16.03-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-server)
[19:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: landscape-client (xenial-proposed/main) [16.03-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 16.03-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-server)
[19:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: landscape-client (trusty-proposed/main) [14.12-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 14.12-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1003.3+signed1] (no packageset)
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pacemaker (trusty-proposed/main) [1.1.10+git20130802-1ubuntu2.4 => 1.1.10+git20130802-1ubuntu2.5] (core)
[20:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ssh-import-id (xenial-proposed/main) [5.5-0ubuntu1 => 5.5-0ubuntu1.1] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[21:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (artful-proposed) [18.2-0ubuntu1~17.10.1]
[21:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (xenial-proposed) [18.2-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[21:53] <blackboxsw> woot!
[22:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-software [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.20.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]


[12:24] <komsas> hello godbyk
[12:51] <komsas> someone know how to generate print version of this manual?
[20:39] <komsas> ping godbyk
[20:47] <godbyk> Hey, komsas.
[20:47] <komsas> hey!
[20:48] <komsas> I just send you email, can you check it?
[20:49] <godbyk> Ah, font size.  Good question.
[20:49] <godbyk> Let me play with it a bit later tonight and see what I can come up with for you.
[20:49] <godbyk> We could create a large print edition that has larger text size.
[20:51] <komsas> okay, thank you, now I'm going to rest, can you write solution to my email or create commit and ask for pull in github?
[20:51] <godbyk> Yep.
[20:52] <komsas> thank you! bye
[20:52] <godbyk> Good night.


[01:20] <SilverLion> akgraner: good morning
[05:10] <JoseeAntonioR> when are the news being moved onto the wiki?
[05:27] <JoseeAntonioR> vibhav: hello! The mail got to the mailing list. Is there any way you can post it to a blog, so we can include it as a blog article?
[11:07] <vibhav> JoseeAntonioR: ping
[11:08] <vibhav> pleia2: ping
[11:11] <vibhav> http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[11:12] <vibhav> oops :)
[14:50] <JoseeAntonioR> vibhav: pong
[15:07] <SilverLion> hi everyone!
[15:08]  * SilverLion is looking forward to his very first international interview :D :D *happy*
[15:16] <SilverLion> akgraner, could you please be so kind to ping me if you have time tonight?
[17:42] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: summaries are coming in a bit slow this week, so looks like we won't be moving them for a bit
[17:44] <pleia2> vibhav: pong
[18:23] <SilverLion> hi cody
[19:25] <pleia2> ok, I got a copy of the fridge interview script so now we don't need to nudge nhandler for it to update it
[19:25] <pleia2> I put it in lp: https://code.launchpad.net/~lyz/fridge/scripts
[19:27] <pleia2> it's a holiday for some folks today, so I suspect that's where our summary writers are this weekend
[19:28] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: once summaries are ready I'll start translating, no worries :)
[19:29] <pleia2> bkerensa: no dev news this week?
[19:46] <SilverLion> pleia2 ping
[19:46] <pleia2> SilverLion: pong
[19:47] <SilverLion> pleia2, do the summaries have to be done tonight?
[19:47] <pleia2> yes, we need to get it off to the editors
[19:47] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: I'll try to contact benonsoftware so he can start doing them
[19:48] <pleia2> thanks JoseeAntonioR :)
[19:48]  * SilverLion rolls up his sleeves
[19:48] <SilverLion> ok then. hit me with the g-doc
[19:48] <pleia2> it's the link in the topic
[19:48] <pleia2> http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[19:48] <SilverLion> pleia2, i'm diving in ;)
[19:49] <pleia2> be sure to add your name as a contributor (bottom of the file) if you write anything, and if you have any questions about existing summaries please mention it here (don't just delete stuff)
[19:49] <SilverLion> u will get your summaries tonight. even if it takes me the whole night ;)
[19:49] <pleia2> thanks!
[19:49] <pleia2> I'll write some if needed, but as the first editor I don't like doing much since I can't edit my own stuff
[19:49] <SilverLion> pleia2, willco
[19:49] <SilverLion> pleia2, no worries ... if done it before ;)
[19:50] <pleia2> :)
[19:50]  * SilverLion gets a bottle of coke next to his laptop
[19:50] <JoseeAntonioR> erm, in the "In The Blogosphere" section, is the title correct, or the name of the blog owner should be at the start?
[19:50] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: we tend to say the article author
[19:50] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR of Linux Rocks reports...
[19:50] <pleia2> or somesuch
[19:51] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: I mean, in the case of the actionparsnip interview
[19:52] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: so something like "Vibhav Pant interviews Andy Woodhead (aka actionparsnip)"
[19:52] <pleia2> we keep the title as it is though
[19:52] <pleia2> just write the stuff I said in the smmary
[19:52] <JoseeAntonioR> well, ok :)
[19:54] <SilverLion> pleia2, http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/03/posscon-2012/ << that is no real news ... imho
[19:55] <pleia2> SilverLion: why?
[19:56] <pleia2> we like covering events because it makes the whole ubuntu world feel more "real" to people
[19:56] <SilverLion> pleia2, that is nothing but a mention of a visit and that a guy talked about something.
[19:56] <pleia2> last week one of our articles was nothing more than a picture from a loco event ;)
[19:57] <SilverLion> pleia2, just saying ;) u r the boss
[20:06] <SilverLion> MrChrisDruif, prettige paarsdagen;)
[20:07] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks SilverLion , you too
[20:07] <MrChrisDruif> Urbi et orbi(?)
[20:07]  * SilverLion goes back diving into the summaries of the uwn
[20:08] <MrChrisDruif> Good boi!
[20:11]  * SilverLion should be coding crosswords for fullcircle ....
[20:11] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: has studio had a meeting lately?
[20:11] <pleia2> SilverLion: if you have other obligations please go ahead with those, we'll manage :)
[20:12] <SilverLion> pleia2, if not get back to mee
[20:12] <SilverLion> -e
[20:12] <SilverLion> ;)
[20:13] <MrChrisDruif> pleia2; not that I'm aware of =(
[20:16] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: ok, that was my impression too, just making sure
[21:04] <shever> greetings all
[21:06] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi, shever!
[21:09] <SilverLion> shever ;)
[21:11] <pleia2> welcome shever, unfortunately we're a bit slow on summaries this week since we have several folks celebrating a holiday today
[21:12] <shever> I did wonder if we were in holiday mode today :)
[21:12] <MrChrisDruif> Or otherwise pre-occupied
[21:18] <shever> not a bother...easter is a pretty big deal in Ireland too...good friday is one of only two days in the year when you can't buy alcohol!
[21:19] <MrChrisDruif> O_O
[21:19] <MrChrisDruif> It should be mentioned on the UWN then? ;-)
[21:19] <shever> probably...it was the longest day of my life :D
[21:20]  * SilverLion looks on his watch ... oh boi already 40 mins to midnight ...
[21:21]  * SilverLion is going to prep for his interview
[21:22] <pleia2> shever: haha, wow
[21:22] <pleia2> I think most of the laws around buying alcohol have been repealed here in the states, but you do run into an issue of places simply not being open on big christian holidays
[21:23] <pleia2> well, buying related to religious holidays anyway
[21:24] <shever> all the shops were open on good friday (apart from the restaurant i wanted to go to :@), but they have metal barriers down over the alcohol section
[21:24] <shever> however, with good Irish planning, I always have a reserve ;)
[21:25] <pleia2> I'm going to do one last sweep through news to make sure we got everything, then I'll work on some summaries so hopefully I can have a few sections moved over to the wiki for editoral review in an hour or so
[21:25] <pleia2> hehe
[21:28] <SilverLion> pleia2, seen amber today?
[21:28] <MrChrisDruif> SilverLion; she's in the channel atm
[21:29] <SilverLion> re
[21:30] <JoseeAntonioR> SilverLion: idle for 1 day, 17 hours, 7 minutes, and 16 seconds
[21:30]  * MrChrisDruif is off to bed, tomorrow another early morning
[21:30] <pleia2> night MrChrisDruif :)
[21:30] <pleia2> SilverLion: I haven't spoken to her today
[21:30] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks pleia2
[21:30] <SilverLion> MrChrisDruif, would love to do that too... but the overnight shifts from yesterday are still keeping me awake :(
[21:30] <SilverLion> pleia2, thx
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> I'll *try* to do a run down of the meetings, but afaik only Lubuntu had a meeting in the past week
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> pleia2; ^
[21:31] <SilverLion> did she mention to come around tonight?
[21:37] <pleia2> SilverLion: I haven't heard from her at all, sorry
[21:37] <SilverLion> pleia2, no need to be sorry ^^
[21:37] <SilverLion> its just incredibly hard to get her on the interview chair ;)
[21:40] <pleia2> she is a very busy person :
[21:41] <pleia2> :)
[21:42] <SilverLion> pleia2, but you will be my next "target" after i finished amber ;)
[21:57] <shever> lack of alcohol must be causing dementia...I read that as: Connection reset by beer!!!
[22:08] <pleia2> shever: ok, copied over a few sections that can be edited
[22:08] <pleia2> trying to finish up a few more now
[22:08] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue260
[22:09] <shever> already there, thanks :)
[22:17] <shever> ok...first set of summaries proofread and edited :)
[22:18] <pleia2> \o/
[22:27] <pleia2> ok, copied over blogosphere
[22:27] <pleia2> finishing up planet and press now
[22:30] <Silverlion> awesome pleia2
[22:39] <pleia2> ok, press is moved over
[22:42] <shever> cool, thanks. Is it safe to go into the wiki? Was editing it and noticed you were still in :)
[22:43] <pleia2> ah sorry, yes it's safe
[22:45] <shever> A few more edits done. I'm out now, and will just read through again
[22:46] <pleia2> ok, I'm almost done with General and Planet, should just be another 5 minutes or so
[22:48] <pleia2> actually, done now, let me know when you're out of the wiki
[22:48] <shever> I'm out of the wiki now...it should be safe to edit
[22:50] <pleia2> ok, done :)
[22:52] <shever> ok, going back in for a couple of minutes :
[22:52] <shever> :)
[22:58] <shever> Back out of the wiki now...I'll just re-read through
[23:01] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: I'll start translating what is done for now :)
[23:01] <pleia2> thanks JoseeAntonioR!
[23:01] <pleia2> I'll add the stats tomorrow if akgraner doesn't get to it today
[23:05] <shever> ok, think I'm done :) well done again Lyz
[23:07] <pleia2> thank you so much!
[23:12] <shever> just read through it again, and so I'm heading to bed. Good night all...see you next week :)
[23:21] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: I'm almost done translating, I'll finish when I get back
[23:56] <Silverlion> gn8