[07:34] <meso> okay .... I'm cooking along creating partitions at the moment
[07:34] <mnepton> ajmitch: you gotta wonder what brain puts the ideas of "#ubuntu/Freenode" and "more channel input" together and comes up with "good idea!" ;)
[07:34] <chuckyp> ScurveyFrog, is that english?
[07:35] <ScurveyFrog> chuckyp: is what english?
[07:35] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: what is this file "BST?"
[07:35] <mnepton> smells like a timezone file
[07:35] <chuckyp> ScurveyFrog, nm
[07:36] <cwillu> fetale: any luck?
[07:36] <casey420> !google blah
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google blah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: it's an executable that I compiled to implement a binary search tree
[07:36] <ajmitch> mnepton: one does wonder..
[07:36] <fetale> cwillu: It still seems to give the error
[07:36] <ScurveyFrog> chuckyp: nm?
[07:36] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: and when you actually execute it ... ?
[07:37] <fetale> cwillu: maybe I should just take the hint and upgrade to edgy
[07:37] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: it seg faults and core dumps
[07:37] <chuckyp> ScurveyFrog, nm = nevermind
[07:37] <kingrayray> hey, anybody happen to know the default port for vncserver offhand?
[07:37] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: so I want to use gdb to debug it
[07:37] <cwillu> kingrayray: 5900
[07:37] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: well, the executable itself is not a .core logfile of the dump.
[07:37] <kingrayray> hmm, i forwarded that port and its not connecting correctly
[07:38] <kingrayray> thanks, i'll play around with my router some more
[07:38] <noiesmo> 5800 is the java port number ScurveyFrog for web browser access
[07:38] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: sudo updatedb && locate .core
[07:38] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: it put the core file in the folder that I executed from, and it is called "core"
[07:39] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: run gdb against that file
[07:39] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: just that file?: gdb core?
[07:40] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: gdb requires an executable
[07:40] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: sure, unless you need to add arguments
[07:40] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: no, no arguments
[07:40] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: this is the web page I was looking at, where I got the idea: http://www.cprogramming.com/debugging/segfaults.html
[07:40] <mnepton> gdb -c ./core
[07:40] <cwillu> fetale: well, if you're willing to try, I suspect that just remaking the folder by hand might fix it
[07:41] <fetale> cwillu: I'm up for that, sure!
[07:41] <cwillu> worst case, we delete the folder after if it doesn't work
[07:41] <fetale> np
[07:41] <cwillu> fetale: k, just give me ten minutes, just finishing up a tourny
[07:41] <fetale> cwillu: thanks a bunch!
[07:42] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: I ran gdp -c ./core and it still said "./core is not a core dump: File format not recognized"
[07:42] <OmniD> Torrent program reccomendations!
[07:42] <mnepton> OmniD: desktop or server based?
[07:42] <OmniD> desktop
[07:42] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: er, gdb - not gdp
[07:43] <OmniD> I wish there is one more like bitcomet
[07:43] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: then i suggest that you have a look around and find the real .core file ;)
[07:43] <mnepton> OmniD: BitComet is really, really pooorly written
[07:43] <OmniD> Then as far as functionality
[07:43] <hump> eh?
[07:43] <OmniD> Also I think BitTornado and BitTorrent are really really poorly written
[07:44] <OmniD> They both are memory hogs
[07:44] <mnepton> OmniD: but at least they follow the RFC
[07:44] <bur[n] er> bitcomet doesn't work in linux right?  I like transmission-gtk
[07:44] <bur[n] er> utorrent via wine is primo too ;)
[07:44] <OmniD> Transmission... is it in the repos?
[07:44] <mnepton> OmniD: i use TorrentFlux, but that requires a web server
[07:44] <mnepton> OmniD: a lot of people like Azureus. it's a good client.
[07:44] <bur[n] er> azureus == mem hog
[07:45] <OmniD> Is that available via the repos?
[07:45] <OmniD> o
[07:45] <mnepton> OmniD: it is
[07:45] <bur[n] er> even utorrent through wine is faster
[07:45] <bur[n] er> az is sooooooooooo slow
[07:45] <mnepton> bur[n] er: but you can't compare the feature set
[07:45] <OmniD> :/ is it really hard to code a decent torrent program
[07:45] <bur[n] er> utorrent is almost as great as azureus for my needs
[07:45] <Wiseguy> hey guys, how would i connect to my ubuntu box from my XP box and get an X session? is it called X forwarding?
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy> azureus -> Java -> memory hog
[07:45] <bur[n] er> Wiseguy: i use "xming" and "putty" in windows
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy> it's fine for me, though
[07:45] <OmniD> oh god
[07:45] <mnepton> bur[n] er: it's like saying "that Yugo gets much better gas mileage than that M-1A Abrams tank. the Yugo is clearly superior."
[07:46] <OmniD> no java programmed ones thank you for telling me
[07:46] <Wiseguy> bur[n] er, im looking for an actual x session rather than a terminal..
[07:46] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: I ran 'sudo updatedb && locate .core' and it didn't find a core file
[07:46] <bur[n] er> Wiseguy: you use Putty and X-forwarding checkbox within putty... then at a term... type "gaim" and you'll see it appear if you have xming running in windows
[07:47] <OmniD> So basically it comes down to a few torrent programs all with their share of flaws people tolerate
[07:47] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: then you need to figure out where the .core files are getting placed when your app segfaults.
[07:47] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: to get the core file to appear in the first place, I had to run 'ulimit -c unlimited', so I'm pretty confident that is the core file
[07:47] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: you may find that the IRC channel(s), web forums, mailing lists (or whatever) for that piece of code are of more help.
[07:47] <Wiseguy> bur[n] er, id rather have something thats an actual desktop, if thats possible
[07:47] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: and it reappears if I delete it and run my program again
[07:47] <cassiopeia> hi
[07:47] <bur[n] er> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/25/transmission-a-lightweight-gtk-bittorrent-client/  <--Transmission
[07:48] <mnepton> ScurveyFrog: then it is not in a format gdb expects
[07:48] <Skymountaineer> crimsun: upgraded to the new kernal
[07:48] <ScurveyFrog> mnepton: okay
[07:48] <bur[n] er> Wiseguy: check out VNC?
[07:48] <cwillu> fetale: 2 more to knock out
[07:49] <hump> dude
[07:49] <cwillu> fetale: one more :)
[07:49] <hump> is there anyway to get the essentials..
[07:49] <hump> for ubuntu
[07:49] <fetale> cwillu: that's faster than 10 minutes
[07:49] <hump> like apt-get install INEEDALLTHIS
[07:49] <tarelerulz> anyone try to share fat32 exteral usb drive with samba
[07:49] <bur[n] er> hump: easyubuntu?
[07:49] <cwillu> fetale: what can I say, I'm just that good :)
[07:49] <hump> like C compilers..
[07:49] <hump> no..
[07:49] <mnepton> hump: yes, but you don;t want to use them
[07:49] <bur[n] er> hump: sudo apt-get install build-essential :)
[07:49] <hump> k
[07:49] <atroWork> I had a couple samba shares mounted under /media/somename, after a restart those directories are inaccessible, mount -a says can't resolve mount point, and ls -l on the directory shows the directory names in red on black background with question marks for all the information fields. What happened to the directories and how can I remove them (can't rmdir or chmod them)?
[07:49] <crimsun> Skymountaineer: on the phone ; I'll ping when I'm free
[07:50] <Skymountaineer> ok
[07:50] <mnepton> hump: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:50] <mnepton> gah
[07:50] <hump> wait
[07:50] <hump> singular or pluarl?
[07:50] <mnepton> plural
[07:50] <atroWork> singular
[07:50] <hump> ...
[07:50] <mnepton> hfdsajkga
[07:50] <atroWork> build-essential
[07:50] <hump> ?!?!?!
[07:50] <hump> are you sure
[07:50] <atroWork> positive
[07:51] <hump> k
[07:51] <OmniD> bur[n] er, that page does not exist
[07:53] <bur[n] er> OmniD: you're a liar ;)
[07:53] <OmniD> It really doesn't
[07:53] <OmniD> getting a 404
[07:53] <meso> mnepton... my alternate cd is in the middle of installing packages,  but the screen just went blank
[07:53] <^Down> Anyone know where I can download stdio.h?
[07:53] <bur[n] er> http://www.google.com/search?q=transmission+gtk&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[07:53] <meso> this happened before with this approach
[07:53] <bur[n] er> ^Down: sudo apt-get install build-essential ???
[07:53] <ransackman> hey, does anybody know why do i get a white screen with beryl
[07:54] <cwillu> fetale: almost done
[07:54] <hump> can i paste four lines
[07:54] <meso> I think it is still runnung, awaiting an answer to a prompt
[07:54] <meso> ideas?
[07:54] <atroWork> hump, pastebin.ca
[07:54] <^Down> I get an error when I do that, bur[n] er
[07:54] <hump> for four lines
[07:54] <hump> ?!
[07:54] <atroWork> yes
[07:54] <mnepton> meso: you have an Intel video chipset, don't you?
[07:54] <fetale> cwillu: sweet
[07:54] <meso> probably
[07:55] <mnepton> meso: known bug in xresprobe
[07:55] <meso> any way I can continue?
[07:55] <xzk> Hey guys I know this is totally unrelated to Ubuntu help - but where can I find help with C++
[07:55] <hump> http://pastebin.ca/195970 <-- got that error while apt-get install build-essential was running
[07:55] <mnepton> meso: it *is* still installing, you're just not getting any screen output. :/
[07:55] <hump> xzk: #C++, google.com?
[07:55] <meso> I think it is now awaiting a response to an invisible prompt
[07:55] <xzk> hump: #C++ on this server ?
[07:56] <hump> yes
[07:56] <xzk> sweet, thnx
[07:56] <mnepton> meso: hit return until the screen comes back. :/
[07:56] <^Down> Bur[n] er: http://pastebin.ca/195972
[07:56] <atroWork> hump, try updating and dist-upgrading, then try again?
[07:56] <hump> atroWork, what?
[07:56] <link_36p> Will the fglrx drivers in the ubuntu repos ever be updated?
[07:56] <hump> apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:56] <hump> ?
[07:56] <meso> well, things started to happen - screen isn't back but lights are flashing and the cd is spinning
[07:56] <atroWork> hump, after an update
[07:56] <hump> is there a command?
[07:56] <cwillu> fetale: damn, cracked my kings
[07:57] <cwillu> oh well
[07:57] <hump> update is the command?
[07:57] <atroWork> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:57] <bur[n] er> ^Down: using dapper right?  do a "sudo apt-get update" ?
[07:57] <mnepton> meso: yeah, i'm trying to find where a co-worker documented the workaround for the xresprobe problem.
[07:57] <cwillu> fetale: read.cwillu.com/Files has the two files
[07:57] <meso> thanks!
[07:57] <hump> okay..sorry, i'm a nob
[07:57] <cwillu> fetale: checked the contents already, doesn't look like there's anything that's particular to my system really
[07:57] <Byan> hey how do I change my IP address to dhcp temperarly?
[07:57] <bur[n] er> atroWork: you know the difference between "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" ??
[07:57] <^Down> I'm using breezy
[07:57] <fetale> cwillu: that's excellent, I'll wget them right now..
[07:57] <atroWork> Byan, System -> administration -> networking
[07:58] <Byan> atroWork: from the terminal
[07:58] <atroWork> Byan, ifconfig is the command to configure network interfaces, man page should have what you're looking for
[07:58] <Byan> =/
[07:58] <cwillu> fetale: 'sudo mkdir /var/lib/locales' followed by 'sudo mkdir /var/lib/locales/supported.d'
[07:59] <nocti> how do i upgrade everything, plus security fixes. thanks
[07:59] <bur[n] er> ^Down: get dapper :P
[08:00] <hump> atroWork, apt-get update worked..then apt-get dist-upgrade gave me the same errors
[08:00] <cwillu> copy the two files into supported.d (will have to sudo cp them), make sure they're owned by root (chown root:root local en)
[08:00] <elaff> hi, i just made a "sudo apt-get install mplayer", it downloaded some stuff. but where do i find my mplayer? i cant see it on my startmenu
[08:00] <atroWork> nocti, as a user with admin privileges, click the orange icon next to the clock. It's the update manager
[08:00] <bur[n] er> anyone know hte update-manager switch to give ^Down to get to dapper?
[08:00] <mnepton> meso: you using Dapper or Edgy?
[08:00] <jwhitlark> Byan, you should also look into /etc/network/interface and ifdown/ifup
[08:00] <Byan> if someone could tell me how do this real quick, it'd be helpful.. seeing as I am trying to do this on an XBOX and is very difficult to do things
[08:00] <nocti> atroWork: i need commandline. im on fluxbox. thanks
[08:00] <atroWork> bur[n] er, from edgy?
[08:00] <meso> It has now rebooted
[08:00] <bur[n] er> atroWork: from breezy
[08:01] <meso> unfortunately, I suspect that while I couldn't see the screen, it put the bootloader on the primary drive
[08:01] <snoop> hey I deleted the windows partition but it still shows on the grub list, how can I delete it from the list?
[08:01] <bur[n] er> ^Down: atroWork: it might be "sudo update-manager -c" but i forget
[08:01] <fetale> cwillu: what goes where?
[08:01] <mnepton> Byan: you'll need to bring the interface down, edit its config in /etc/network/interfaces to use DHCP, and then bring it back up
[08:01] <snoop> hey I deleted the windows partition but it still shows on the grub list, how can I delete it from the list?
[08:01] <cwillu> fetale: create the folder /var/lib/locales/supported.d
[08:01] <DanielJones> hi there. i have a problem installing vmware under ubuntu: when i launch the installer .pl script it says i had it allready installed (had the vm version from synaptic before but removed it) how can i make sure my system knows that there is no vmware left on it?
[08:01] <fetale> cwillu: cool
[08:01] <atroWork> bur[n] er, I think that's right, the -d switch will allow you to upgrade to beta releases too (like edgy)
[08:01] <bur[n] er> snoop: by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <nocti> snoop: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <mnepton> snoop: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <Byan> mnepton: will that work on a live cd?
[08:02] <cwillu> fetale: and they need to be read only for everyone (group and other)
[08:02] <hump> HELP
[08:02] <cwillu> well, not need, but you know :p
[08:02] <mnepton> Byan: it should.
[08:02] <blujay> I've filed a bug regarding hibernate/resume support in Edgy, but after over a week, it still hasn't been noticed by the devs.  Is there anything I can do to help draw attention to it so it can be fixed in the Edgy release?
[08:02] <hump> http://pastebin.ca/195970 < --- i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and get that
[08:02] <atroWork> DanielJones, find the packages in synaptic and remove them. If it's finding configuration files and not liking that, do a complete removal
[08:02] <mnepton> Byan: but the Live CD uses DHCP rather than static IPs anyway
[08:02] <bur[n] er> blujay: bug #?
[08:02] <cwillu> blujay: are you sure there isn't another report of the same behaviour already?
[08:02] <Byan> mnepton: I'm on an XBOX, it's not the standard live CD
[08:02] <DanielJones> atroWork: i made a complete removal with synaptic before.
[08:03] <mnepton> blujay: what makes you think it hasn't been seen?
[08:03] <blujay> bur[n] er: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/63286
[08:03] <blujay> mnepton: it hasn't been commented on, or assigned an importance
[08:03] <cwillu> bluejay, also, at this point, the release is probably in freeze, which means only grevious stuff is likely to get fixed here on in (the chances of the fix breaking something else and slipping the deadline is too great)
[08:03] <mnepton> blujay: we're kinda busy. ;)
[08:03] <blujay> cwillu: I haven't been able to find one...I could have missed one, but I haven't found one
[08:03] <hump> cwillu, will you please help me?
[08:03] <elaff> hi, i just made a "sudo apt-get install mplayer", it downloaded some stuff. but where do i find my mplayer? i cant see it on my startmenu
[08:03] <cwillu> hump, give me a sec
[08:03] <mnepton> blujay: i wouldn't assume that it's unnoticed.
[08:03] <Byan> yeah, this fails, I can't read this text...
[08:03] <blujay> cwillu: well I think it is important, because it can cause kernel upgrades to fail, which might lead to the machine being unbootable
[08:04] <blujay> mnepton: but if a dev looks at it, won't they assign it an importance?
[08:04] <DanielJones> atroWork: or should i reinstall?
[08:04] <KEA0463> hello
[08:04] <mnepton> blujay: not necessarily right away. and it may be that the problem is with the upstream package.
[08:04] <cwillu> fetale: how goes the battle?
[08:05] <KEA0463> whats fluxbox used for
[08:05] <blujay> mnepton: I see...well, it's on acpi-support and hibernate.sh, which I didn't think was an upstream product, but I don't know for sure
[08:05] <fetale> it's coming along, just copying right now..
[08:05] <cwillu> k
[08:05] <atroWork> if you reinstall the package you can use dpkg -L packagename to find out where it puts all the files and manually remove any ones that a complete removal doesn't get. I don't know what it would be leaving behind, but something for the vmware installer to find.
[08:05] <bur[n] er> KEA0463: same thing xfce, gnome, and kde are used for
[08:05] <mnepton> blujay: ACPI is the devil :/
[08:05] <atroWork> DanielJones, I think vmware comes with an uninstaller script, can you find and run that?
[08:05] <cwillu> hump: what were you doing?
[08:05] <blujay> mnepton: I would just hate to see this bug released in Edgy, especially if it could mean a post-Edgy upgrade caused the machine to not reboot properly
[08:05] <DanielJones> atroWork: i will try this
[08:05] <KEA0463> how do i get the cool system info on my screen in fluxbox
[08:06] <hump> cwillu: trying to get the stuff i need to make my system work properly
[08:06] <hump> can't compile anything..no compiler
[08:06] <hump> http://pastebin.ca/195970 < --- i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and get that
[08:06] <hump> anytime i try to apt-get something, i get that error
[08:06] <cwillu> blujay: doesn't mean it can't get fixed soon after release in an update though
[08:06] <cwillu> hump: how do you mean?
[08:06] <hump> ...
[08:06] <blujay> cwillu: true.  Well, thanks for your help, also to mnepton, and bur[n] er
[08:06] <mnepton> blujay: i'll point it out to someone today
[08:06] <blujay> mnepton: thanks
[08:06] <fetale> cwillu: I've copied them, should I restart something at this point?
[08:07] <hump> i mean i get a friggin error when i try to apt-get install stuff
[08:07] <KEA0463> how do i get the cool system info on my screen in fluxbox
[08:07] <cwillu> fetale: try hitting locale in the terminal again I guess
[08:07] <chronoAZ> how can i remove sendmail and all its configuration files and start again with default settings?
[08:07] <hump> you all told me to use sudo apt-get update.. then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... well the first one worked, then i got that error
[08:07] <bur[n] er> KEA0463: it's unrelated to fluxbox... i forget the name of it though :\
[08:07] <KEA0463> if you can remember tell me ill search for it
[08:08] <fetale> cwillu: should I copy into the regular locales folder?
[08:08] <cwillu> hump: I understand you're frustrated, but I really do need more information:  how did you install ubuntu, which ubuntu are you installing, what are yuo instaling that the default didn't install, etc
[08:08] <cwillu> fetale: no, the /var/lib/locales/supported.d/ directory you created
[08:08] <fetale> oh, right
[08:08] <fetale> thanks
[08:08] <fetale> I dunno
[08:08] <DanielJones> AtroWork: uninstall.pl gives me this: This program previously created the file /dev/vmnet6, and was about to remove
[08:08] <DanielJones> it.  Somebody else apparently did it already.
[08:08] <KEA0463> i know how to delete files using the command line now!!!
[08:08] <bur[n] er> KEA0463: conky
[08:09] <DanielJones> atroWork: like 10 times
[08:09] <KEA0463> so i do apt get install conky
[08:09] <hump> cwillu: heh... how did i install ubuntu? i downloaded the Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS iso for the amd...
[08:09] <hump> burned it to a disc..
[08:09] <hump> booted it, installed it
[08:09] <DanielJones> hump: what's the point?
[08:10] <fetale> cwillu: it's still giving the error, but I'll have to look at it tomorrow (it's 2AM here)
[08:10] <chronoAZ> how can i remove sendmail and all its configuration files and start again with default settings?
[08:10] <Jbirk> what is the xgl channel again?
[08:10] <KurtKraut> hump, if you're not an experienced user, the amd64 should not be as easy to work with than a normal i386
[08:10] <Jbirk> Gaim Crashed
[08:10] <fetale> cwillu:thanks alot for your help, though
[08:10] <cwillu> fetale: k, sorry I couldn't help
[08:10] <DanielJones> #ubuntu-xgl
[08:10] <Madpilot> Jbirk, #ubuntu-xgl
[08:10] <Jbirk> My punishment for using Widnows
[08:10] <Jbirk> thanks
[08:10] <hump> KurtKraut: eh?
[08:10] <DanielJones> you can also try #xgl
[08:10] <Jbirk> They are good people over there
[08:10] <DanielJones> and #beryl
[08:10] <Jbirk> I got xgl working great thanks to them
[08:10] <KurtKraut> hump, I do recommend if this is your first step in Linux to use a i386 instead.
[08:10] <bur[n] er> KEA0463: did it work out for you?
[08:10] <Jbirk> My only problem is the ubuntu wiki is messed up
[08:10] <cwillu> hump: assume I know nothing about anything you've said previous to saying 'cwillu, can you help me', and we'll probably be on the same page :)
[08:10] <Jbirk> it says to install compiz
[08:10] <KEA0463> i cant beleive it ive had no system crashes since i installed ubuntu
[08:10] <Jbirk> if you install beryl, you are all set
[08:11] <KEA0463> this is the best linux i tried
[08:11] <Jbirk> Basically, you get xgl working
[08:11] <ToHellWithGA> is there a way to move logical partitions?
[08:11] <bur[n] er> Jbirk: you can edit the ubuntu wiki
[08:11] <hump> cwillu, what else do you need to know?
[08:11] <DanielJones> atroWork: you still there?
[08:11] <bur[n] er> KEA0463: welcome ;)
[08:11] <Skymountaineer> crimsun thanks for your help but i need to get to  bed....
[08:11] <Jbirk> I may edit it soon, but I will have 3 people at work read and re-read my contribution and correct it and add thought
[08:11] <cwillu> how you got to the point that you needed to use apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:11] <chronoAZ> how can i remove sendmail and all its configuration files and start again with default settings?
[08:11] <Jbirk> I want it to be profound before I update it
[08:11] <Byan> how big of a swap partition is good for an XBOX?
[08:12] <ToHellWithGA> it looks as if i can extend the length of a logical partition but i cannot move its starting point
[08:12] <hump> cwillu, i tried to use synaptic to install xchat..
[08:12] <Byan> it's got like 64mb ram
[08:12] <hump> got those errors
[08:12] <Jbirk> KEA0463, wait until you install teh restricted codecs
[08:12] <KurtKraut> Byan, to run what ?
[08:12] <gmasters> Using qemu virtual machine. Running win98 on the VM. Can d/l programs and install from the net, but can't see folders shared from my home dir. The VM and the real machine have different host names. Unfortunately, this old P3-1G machine only supports 256M of real RAM so I'm stuck w/win98. Also tried telling the Samba share that the real machine is the WINS server to no avail. Any ideas to get the real machine to show in the V
[08:12] <Byan> KurtKraut: uh, IDK
[08:12] <Jbirk> Once you install the codecs, you can play any movie
[08:12] <HitmanX> apt-get or aptitude?
[08:12] <Jbirk> Also, KEA0463, please install the Graphical Acceleration
[08:12] <KEA0463> jbirk: thanks for the warning
[08:12] <Byan> KurtKraut: it's suppost to be a server.. for random things
[08:12] <Jbirk> It will make your life better
[08:13] <elaff> hi, i just made a "sudo apt-get install mplayer", it downloaded some stuff. but where do i find my mplayer? i cant see it on my startmenu
[08:13] <cwillu> hump: and what happened?
[08:13] <Jbirk> do you have an Nvidia card, KEA0463?
[08:13] <hump> i..got..those..errors
[08:13] <KEA0463> whats the graphical acceleration
[08:13] <hump> http://pastebin.ca/195970
[08:13] <KurtKraut> Byan, I would say 500mb, but I'm not experienced in non-PC platforms
[08:13] <chronoAZ> how can i remove sendmail and all its configuration files and start again with default settings?
[08:13] <blujay> elaff: mplayer is a shell app, you want something like KPlayer or KMPlayer for a GUI
[08:13] <Jbirk> Basically, it makes the screen savers work
[08:13] <Byan> KurtKraut: it is a PC platform
[08:13] <KEA0463> nope i got ati
[08:13] <Jbirk> It makes the music players supply art work
[08:13] <Byan> so, how much for a 64MB PC...
[08:13] <KurtKraut> Byan, you just said it is a xbox
[08:13] <Jbirk> widnows move seamlessly
[08:14] <Jbirk> you can play games
[08:14] <Byan> KurtKraut: XBOX is a PC
[08:14] <Jbirk> Overall, it turns on 3D Acceleration
[08:14] <Byan> has a celeron processor and everything
[08:14] <Jbirk> it also fixes countless bugs
[08:14] <Jbirk> I.e. I could not play 2 movies at the same time
[08:14] <Byan> so, w/e you'd use for a 64mb PC
[08:14] <Tokenbad> I get this error when starting quake 4 in ubuntu...dealing with OSS sound..anyone help figure it out:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26140/
[08:14] <Jbirk> My system would crash
[08:14] <cwillu> hump: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade', as well as the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:14] <KurtKraut> Byan, I would keep at least the 500mb
[08:14] <Jbirk> After turning on 3D acceleration, things were good
[08:15] <hump> cwillu, yes
[08:15] <cwillu> thx
[08:15] <chronoAZ> how can i remove sendmail and all its configuration files and start again with default settings?
[08:15] <DanielJones> anybody knows something on my vmware install issue?
[08:15] <KEA0463> i am installing kony right now
[08:16] <KEA0463> konky*
[08:16] <KurtKraut> chronoAZ, sudo aptitude purge packagename and then install it again
[08:16] <chronoAZ> KurtKraut, ok thanks alot
[08:16] <cwillu> for some reason, life holds no appeal.  That is why I'm spending it on irc troubleshooting :)
[08:16] <nocti> KEA0463: conky?
[08:16] <chronoAZ> KurtKraut, and that removes config files also?
[08:16] <cwillu> perhaps I should get back to work though :p
[08:17] <Tokenbad> I get no sound in quake 4...and when check errors...its something to do with OSS...anyone maybe know whats wrong?
[08:17] <KurtKraut> chronoAZ, yes, this is the difference between 'remove' and 'purge'. 'purge' removes the config files
[08:17] <KEA0463> so many questions....so little time
[08:18] <chronoAZ> KurtKraut, ok good
[08:19] <KEA0463> anyone have a link for me to learn about the command line beginer through advanced?
[08:19] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell KEA0463 about cli
[08:20] <cwillu> hump: how's it coming?
[08:20] <oskude> KEA0463: and here for the advanced http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[08:20] <hump> cwillu, fixing to start..had to go do something
[08:20] <cwillu> np
[08:21] <KEA0463> i have seen the light!!!!!
[08:21] <nocti> somebody unplug KEA0463 from the morphine drip..
[08:22] <cwillu> was about to say something about that :)
[08:22] <KEA0463> no keep them drugs koming
[08:22] <nocti> :)
[08:22] <cwillu> gah, he's talking like kde;  get him help, stat!
[08:22] <KEA0463> know kiamknot
[08:23] <dbzdeath> hey i'm trying to get the ca0106 driver to work with hardware mixing instead of dmix which i was originally using can someone help me?
[08:23] <nocti> too much eye candy perhaps.. a good dose of emacs will do you good..
[08:23] <cwillu> gnome into gnthe glight
[08:23] <KEA0463> GNU Know Kwhat i Kmean
[08:23] <cwillu> lol
[08:24] <dabaR> sure, go ahead
[08:24] <KEA0463> khuh
[08:24] <nocti> kphooey
[08:25] <KEA0463> kchoo
[08:25] <cwillu> lol
[08:25] <cwillu> make a good kde antivirus name :)
[08:25] <KEA0463> krofl
[08:25] <nocti> klol
[08:25] <KEA0463> kewl
[08:25] <dabaR> kantivirus?
[08:25] <cwillu> kchoo
[08:25] <KEA0463> kfirewall
[08:25] <keegan_> krap
[08:25] <keegan_> lol
[08:25] <hump> http://pastebin.ca/195995
[08:25] <nocti> kantavirus
[08:25] <KEA0463> Kwindows
[08:25] <hump> dialup ftl :(
[08:25] <hump> cwillu: http://pastebin.ca/195995
[08:25] <nocti> haha keegan_
[08:26] <cwillu> thx
[08:26] <hump> mhm
[08:26] <nocti> ok back to work
[08:26] <Madpilot> Folks, random absurdity belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, please....
[08:26] <KEA0463> k
[08:26] <nocti> KEA0463: you on kde?
[08:26] <KEA0463> ubuntu
[08:26] <KEA0463> but i installed kde products
[08:26] <nocti> KEA0463: what de/wm?
[08:26] <KEA0463> dapper
[08:27] <nocti> ah
[08:27] <keegan_> Have you guys heard of Exaile! ?
[08:27] <Tokenbad> I get no sound in quake 4...and when check errors...its something to do with OSS...anyone maybe know whats wrong?
[08:27] <meso> mnewton - still there?
[08:27] <nocti> keegan_: heard it from you. just now.
[08:27] <mnepton> meso: nope!
[08:27] <meso> or perhaps someone else can help me with a grub issue
[08:27] <meso> good
[08:27] <meso> to hear from you :-)
[08:27] <keegan_> Its like the GTK Amarok
[08:27] <keegan_> Its so awesome
[08:28] <mnepton> :)
[08:28] <meso> I am now in the situation where grub used the wrong drive
[08:28] <meso> I am currently in a root shell in rescue mode
[08:28] <nocti> keegan_: is it available on the repos?
[08:28] <dabaR> Tokenbad: have you tried killing esd before running quake?
[08:28] <keegan_> www.getdeb.net
[08:28] <meso> how can I have grub put the right stuff on the external drive?
[08:28] <keegan_> you can get it from there
[08:28] <mnepton> meso: there are lots of tutorials on moving grub around and reconfiguring it. it's not tough.
[08:28] <meso> okay
[08:28] <keegan_> They also have a bad ass burning program too called  Brasero
[08:28] <meso> I'll google, I guess
[08:28] <cwillu> hump: anybody tell you to 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' yet?
[08:28] <keegan_> aka Bonfire
[08:28] <mnepton> keegan_: does GNOME really need anothe media player?
[08:29] <hump> cwillu: no sir
[08:29] <hump> should i?
[08:29] <cwillu> hump: it'll take a while, but probably worth a shot
[08:29] <hump> okay
[08:29] <keegan_> Once Gnome gets a player like Amarok all those other runs can eat shit and die
[08:29] <Tokenbad> dabaR, yes
[08:29] <cwillu> mnepton: until winamp is available, yes
[08:29] <dabaR> pretty icons in that bonfire
[08:29] <keegan_> Brasero is the shits and the icons rule too
[08:29] <Tokenbad> dabaR, this is the error it gives :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26140/
[08:30] <mnepton> cwillu: there is NO way i would use a Winamp-like app for my mp3s. just simply too many of them for any app except a "music library" app like Rhythmbox, Banshee, or Amarok to handle.
[08:30] <dabaR> Tokenbad: no idea.
[08:30] <cwillu> mnepton: I've got thousands;  there's a wonder elegance in hitting 'j', typing a piece of the metadata, and getting exactly the song I'm looking for :)
[08:31] <KEA0463> ok i got conky running its pretty cool
[08:31] <chronoAZ> waht do i need to be able to send an email using the mail command?
[08:31] <mnepton> cwillu: 30,000?
[08:31] <Madpilot> keegan_, language, please...
[08:31] <keegan_> Whats up with Madpilot being a Nazi?
[08:32] <dabaR> keegan_: just follow the rules.
[08:32] <hump> What'd he do?
[08:32] <mnepton> keegan_: if you take off your "i swear on the internet because it's what the cool kids do" costume Madpilot doesn't look like a Nazi. sweartagawd.
[08:32] <mnepton> ooops, too late.
[08:32] <Madpilot> mnepton, I goosestepped on him.
[08:33] <bimberi_> rofl Madpilot
[08:33] <KEA0463> moin
[08:33] <hump> deine mutter mag ziegen?
[08:34] <Tokenbad> I get no sound in quake 4...and when check errors...its something to do with OSS...anyone maybe know whats wrong?
[08:34] <cwillu> Tokenbad: is there anything else playing sound?
[08:34] <oskude> Tokenbad: have you looked in quake4 forums/list/chat ? or even google with that error message ?
[08:35] <KEA0463> any other cool stuff like conky i can install
[08:35] <nocti> hope my house has an ikea plugin, like apt-get install ikea-tables
[08:35] <mnepton> KEA0463: install Windows For Workgroups. it's *awesome*.
[08:35] <nocti> :(
[08:35] <dabaR> there is nothing as cool as conky.
[08:35] <nocti> KEA0463: search for screenshots on google, you seem to be looking for eyecandy stuff
[08:35] <KEA0463> whats all can conky do?
[08:35] <mnepton> nocti: you'll need to run sudo "apt-get update salary" first
[08:36] <dabaR> http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[08:36] <Tokenbad> cwillu, yes...everything else plays sound
[08:36] <cwillu> Tokenbad: no, is anything else playing at the same time?
[08:36] <paragonc> hello - i have a fresh copy of dapper drake on a box - and i installed ssh via apt-get - but when i try and login from other boxes - it fails to take my password
[08:36] <Tokenbad> oskude, I have been searching on google...to no avail yet
[08:36] <Tokenbad> cwillu, no
[08:36] <cwillu> flash animation, etc
[08:36] <nocti> mnepton: ah yes, no wonder the command fails..
[08:36] <Tokenbad> cwillu, I can boot...and nothing else at all on...doo the killall esd or not...and load it..and no sound
[08:37] <KEA0463> i am thinking about installing linux in my brain
[08:37] <cwillu> Tokenbad: soryr, don't know much about it, might wanna see if there's any linux forum for quake that might have better answers
[08:37] <mnepton> nocti: it also depends on big-car-for-hauling-ubuntu1 and sense-of-taste-that-doesn't-annoy-girlfriend-ubuntu.06
[08:37] <Tokenbad> cwillu, been trying
[08:38] <chronoAZ> how come i can send email locally but not externally :S!
[08:38] <nocti> mnepton: maybe i should just apt-get install cat and be happy.
[08:38] <mnepton> Tokenbad: my guess is that Q4 uses OSS or some other outdated sound architecture (not ALSA) that has not been configured on your machine
[08:38] <paragonc> i just checked the accounts on the localbox and the passwords work
[08:38] <KEA0463> do all the cool kids use ubuntu?
[08:39] <DanielJones> how to convert an mp3 to wav file?
[08:39] <mnepton> nocti: just be careful of core dumps in /dev/litterbox. apt-get remove those every so often.
[08:39] <nocti> KEA0463: cool kids use PS3
[08:39] <nocti> mnepton: lol :)
[08:39] <KurtKraut> DanielJones, do you want to burn an audio CD ?
[08:39] <KEA0463> whats PS3
[08:39] <DanielJones> nope
[08:39] <DanielJones> want to set it as startup sound
[08:39] <nocti> KEA0463: havent you heard? it's the new *thing* :)
[08:39] <KEA0463> no i havnt
[08:40] <DanielJones> KEA0463: cool kids have windows installed in their brain
[08:40] <KEA0463> i wanna be cool to
[08:40] <Tokenbad> mnepton, most sound problems come from alsa actually...for games like quake 4...so if you start the game with the command to set driver to oss it works...but this time...its no sound at all
[08:40] <mnepton> KEA0463: cool kids spell it "too"
[08:40] <mnepton> :P
[08:40] <DanielJones> KEA0463: i think you would like to go to #ubuntu-offtopic ?!?!
[08:40] <KEA0463> how do i get there
[08:41] <KEA0463> its along way and i am low on gas
[08:41] <KurtKraut> KEA0463, if you intend to just keep chating, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <DanielJones>    use /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <KEA0463> ok ill try
[08:41] <mnepton> Tokenbad: you might need to look at the OSS architecture and check levels and output devices and what-not
[08:41] <Tokenbad> mnepton, that just went over my head
[08:41] <paragonc> anyone have any ideas why my ssh passwords aren't being accepted ?
[08:41] <DanielJones> so how can i simply convert an mp3 to wav file
[08:41] <DanielJones> ?
[08:42] <KEA0463> oh so this is for questions only?
[08:42] <mnepton> Tokenbad: ALSA has a console mixer and what not that allows muting and volume adjustment. OSS, does too, iirc. it may be that the OSS devices are not properly configured.
[08:42] <Ademan> can anyone tell me why xMule looks like piss? I thought it used wxWidgets drawing Gtk... doesn't look like Gtk to me, looks like the super basic X11 widgets you see in emacs
[08:42] <Madpilot> KEA0463, #ubuntu-offtopic is for chat; this channel is for tech support type questions
[08:42] <KEA0463> ok i see now
[08:42] <meso> mnepton - I think it's gonna work. Thanks. Now I'm goin to bed. ciao
[08:42] <mnepton> meso: via con Friots(tm)
[08:43] <mnepton> *Fritos
[08:43] <oskude> Tokenbad: do you got version 1.1+ ? http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/#head-a0995b8d4f543e7cd8ceec66965708479f9ad7dc
[08:43] <KEA0463> ill only ask hard support questions from now on
[08:43] <mnepton> i love when my horrible typing makes a horrible joke even more horrible.
[08:43] <dabaR> mnepton: was that vaya con dios?
[08:44] <mnepton> dabaR: kinda. but stupider.
[08:44] <meso> via con sopapillas
[08:44] <mnepton> (which is what the doctor told my mom when she said, "does my new baby look like my father?")
[08:44] <nocti> DanielJones: audacity
[08:45] <timalot> why no changelogs in the update manager?
[08:45] <timalot> i hate that
[08:45] <KurtKraut> timalot, in Edgy they have changelogs
[08:45] <KurtKraut> timalot, and I think they are translatable too
[08:45] <KurtKraut> timalot, cant say for sure
[08:46] <timalot> yeah ... i hate it when it wants to update a package but doesnt tell u what changes are in the new package
[08:46] <physicsnick> hey guys, i just set up svn on my computer
[08:46] <physicsnick> what's the best way to run svnserve on boot?
[08:46] <KurtKraut> timalot, this will be fixed when you upgrade to Edgy, that will be release in 26th
[08:47] <mnepton> physicsnick: update-rc.d
[08:47] <mnepton> KurtKraut: that's a nice nick you got there >:P
[08:47] <KurtKraut> mnepton, nice because of ... ?
[08:47] <indigoblu> is there a way to have a script run as root when a user logs in?
[08:47] <gta> Q: watz the comand to aplay a theme in xubuntu ?
[08:47] <timalot> KurtKraut: cool... just looking thru the 82 updates right now for my pc... seems more have changelogs than i remember... maybe i can start updating now
[08:48] <dbzdeath> how can i get hardware mixing working?
[08:48] <indigoblu> ie: i want a /etc/profile.d/mkhomedir.sh to take the place of pam_mkhomedir
[08:48] <KurtKraut> mnepton, oh.... hi pal :P
[08:48] <mnepton> hehehe
[08:48] <mnepton> grusse Gott
[08:48] <KurtKraut> mnepton, I'm not german
[08:49] <mnepton> then i am *deeply* offended by that nick! ;)
[08:49] <nocti> DanielJones: use lame (lame --decode metallica.mp3)
[08:49] <KurtKraut> mnepton, so just to make you more offendend... I'm not even european :P
[08:50] <mnepton> KurtKraut: well, neither am i. so ... we're both equally offensive. if you don't factor in my body odor.
[08:50] <KurtKraut> mnepton, thank god there is no 'DCC smell' yet
[08:50] <O2> hello
[08:50] <mnepton> KurtKraut: i wrote the RFC but everyone thought it meant "Request For Cologne"
[08:51] <KurtKraut> mnepton, hahaahhahahahaa
[08:52] <O2> hello
[08:52] <O2> who can tell me how to install chmsee?
[08:52] <timalot> !chmsee
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmsee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <O2> a software to open .chm ebook
[08:53] <boink> is it an ubuntu .deb?
[08:53] <O2> yes.
[08:54] <boink> sudo apt-get install chmsee
[08:54] <nocti> O2: gnochm is ok
[08:54] <O2> but no result
[08:54] <O2> ok, i try gnochm
[08:54] <oskude> O2: chm ebook ? its just a compressed html... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compressed_HTML_Help
[08:55] <Flannel> O2: gnochm and xchm are both in universe
[08:55] <nocti> oskude: who cares what it is? you can't just unzip it and read it in a browser
[08:55] <O2> gnochm, not found
[08:55] <oskude> nocti: yeah!
[08:55] <Flannel> O2: you need universe enabled
[08:55] <nocti> O2: apt-get update
[08:55] <nocti> oh yea and that too
[08:58] <hump> how do you kill x?
[08:58] <hump> restart x?
[08:59] <timalot> ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:59] <oskude> hump: ctrl+alt+backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:59] <hump> that restarts?
[08:59] <hump> not kill...
[08:59] <hump> restart
[08:59] <timalot> hump: that restarts
[08:59] <physicsnick> what's the tool for generating password hashes for use in passdb files?
[08:59] <oskude> hump: ctrl+alt+backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:00] <hump> k
[09:00] <nocti> passdb?
[09:00] <thoreauputic> assuming gdm is running, ctrl-alt-bspce restarts it and X
[09:00] <cwillu> hump: how goes the battle?
[09:01] <hump> cwillu: eh...
[09:01] <hump> it just finished
[09:01] <cwillu> any errors?
[09:02] <timalot> physicsnick: if u mean unix passwords ,,, my system has a mkpasswd command that seems to do this
[09:02] <hump> cwillu: nope
[09:02] <cwillu> well, that's a good sign (the errors you paste-bined were during the configure of nautilus)
[09:03] <Tokenbad> Thanks to those that tried to help...it was my own stupidity that messed up sound in quake 4
[09:03] <cwillu> Tokenbad: what happened?
[09:03] <nocti> Tokenbad: speaker not turned on?
[09:03] <nocti> :)
[09:03] <Tokenbad> well...basicly...I was doing the install based on online stuff
[09:03] <Tokenbad> and one of them suggest to do set_driver oss
[09:03] <O2> how could I add source to sources.list by command?
[09:04] <cwillu> alsa or ess fixed it?
[09:04] <Tokenbad> well....I did all that...not even trying the alsa stuff...
[09:04] <nocti> O2: use synaptic, it's more user friendly
[09:04] <Tokenbad> so switched it to also and sound worked
[09:04] <Tokenbad> alsa even
[09:04] <cwillu> heh
[09:04] <O2> I tried apt-setup, but it says command not found!
[09:04] <Tokenbad> just want to slap my forhead now
[09:04] <kingrayray> physicsnick: hey, just thought i'd let you know i got it all working great
[09:04] <physicsnick> ah yeah? awesome
[09:04] <kingrayray> physicsnick: thanks for the help
[09:04] <physicsnick> np
[09:04] <kingrayray> yeah
[09:04] <kingrayray> freakin awesome
[09:05] <kingrayray> now when i'm on my friends' windows PC's i can just get to my desktop rather painlessly
[09:05] <kingrayray> :D
[09:05] <Tokenbad> cwillu, thanks for your help though...without it wouldn't have even thought about the alsa stuff
[09:05] <cwillu> heh, glad my random ramblings were of use :)
[09:06] <nocti> O2: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <physicsnick> kingrayray, if you haven't already, you should get a dyndns account and set up your machine with ddclient
[09:06] <physicsnick> so you don't have to mess around with ip addresses
[09:07] <kingrayray> physicsnick: yeah i've got one
[09:10] <psykoyiko> hiyo.
[09:10] <OSV> Hello!
[09:10] <psykoyiko> can anyone else successfully #include <asm/atomic.h> on edgy?
[09:11] <OSV> How can I configure my firewall?
[09:11] <OSV> I want to open 80-th port
[09:11] <OSV> for my apache
[09:11] <physicsnick> osv: kdesu firestarter
[09:12] <physicsnick> or gsudo firestarter
[09:12] <physicsnick> whatever the gnome command is
[09:12] <physicsnick> gksudo perhaps?
[09:12] <OSV> alex@laptop:~$ gksudo firestarter
[09:12] <OSV> sudo: firestarter: command not found
[09:12] <OSV> alex@laptop:~$
[09:13] <physicsnick> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[09:13] <Flannel> OSV: it's in universe
[09:13] <OSV> where is it, universe/
[09:13] <OSV> ?
[09:13] <physicsnick> yeah
[09:13] <Flannel> !universe
[09:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:14] <physicsnick> once you run it go to the policy tab, then choose Inbound traffic, then right click in the bottom half and click add, then choose HTTP from the dropdown box
[09:14] <thomas_> hi guys, just wondering how i get my remote to mute PCM instead of Master sound. Master only controls my front speakers, surround controls my rear speakers, but PCM controls everything.
[09:14] <physicsnick> then click apply
[09:14] <SurfnKid> i have a bugging thing in mind
[09:14] <OSV> ok, will try now, thanks
[09:15] <SurfnKid> i use the i8k mod for my fans, and have a command specificed in rc.local to start up the daemon on startup
[09:15] <physicsnick> !easysource
[09:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:16] <SurfnKid> however dont know why but it seems 2 daemons are running cuz theyre crossed when one sends a fan on command and then a fan off command, so i have this constant on-off
[09:16] <SurfnKid> is there anywhere else besides rc.local where commands could be?
[09:16] <SurfnKid> startup commands
[09:17] <physicsnick> startup as in boot, or login?
[09:17] <thomas_> surfnkid it isn't part in another startup script by chance is it?
[09:17] <SurfnKid> login
[09:17] <physicsnick> do you use gnome or kde?
[09:17] <thomas_> !sound
[09:17] <physicsnick> or xfce or fluxbox or something else?
[09:17] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:18] <SurfnKid> thomas_, it never was, it never has at all but a few months back this was happening, and nothing has been changed at all, i dont touch that config
[09:18] <SurfnKid> gnome
[09:18] <SurfnKid> dapper
[09:18] <SurfnKid> when 2 instanes of i8kmon are running
[09:18] <SurfnKid> one could tell it to turn on fan and another to stop
[09:19] <chronoAZ> anyone know why i get 'Deferred: Name server: gmail.com.: host name lookup failure' when i try to send an email?
[09:19] <SurfnKid> and every 2 second intervals fan is on and then off
[09:19] <SurfnKid> so to do that i never started i8kmon on a VT, instead I started it on rc.local and its worked fine sincce
[09:19] <SurfnKid> but now, its doing that on off thing again
[09:20] <SurfnKid> and i dont know where else to check for more instances
[09:20] <SurfnKid> ps -A | grep i8k* doesnt return anything
[09:20] <physicsnick> are you sure two instances are running? do ps -aux and see if you can find them
[09:22] <SurfnKid> dont see anything
[09:22] <SurfnKid> oh wait
[09:22] <SurfnKid> i grepped
[09:22] <SurfnKid> physicsnick, how odd
[09:22] <snoop> hey how can I open a rpm file?
[09:22] <SurfnKid> physicsnick, when i run ps -aux it doesnt come up
[09:22] <physicsnick> at all?
[09:23] <SurfnKid> but when i do ps -aux | grep i8k it does
[09:23] <timalot> SurfnKid: ps -auxw?
[09:23] <oskude> !rpm > snoop
[09:23] <SurfnKid> 1000      7148  0.0  0.0   2880   800 pts/1    S+   02:22   0:00 grep i8k
[09:23] <timalot> SurfnKid: thats just coz i8k is in the grep command line
[09:24] <physicsnick> haha, lol
[09:24] <physicsnick> yeah, SurfnKid, it finds i8k in the ps command itself
[09:24] <SurfnKid> timalot, i dont undrerstand what u mean by that
[09:24] <SurfnKid> oh
[09:24] <SurfnKid> i see
[09:25] <SurfnKid> so does that mean it is running?
[09:25] <physicsnick> no, it means it's not running
[09:25] <thomas_> no it isn't.
[09:25] <snoop> you know if theres a limewire version for ubuntu?
[09:25] <thomas_> so basically, your fans aren't running because you havn't told them to yet.
[09:25] <thomas_> !frostwire
[09:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:25] <physicsnick> snoop, it's called frostwire
[09:25] <SurfnKid> explain to me how u fiured that out
[09:25] <snoop> frostwire?
[09:25] <timalot> SurfnKid: are u trying to kill a process?
[09:25] <physicsnick> SurfnKid, there are no processes running containing i8k
[09:25] <physicsnick> hence, it's not running
[09:26] <thomas_> snoop: its limewire only blue.
[09:26] <timalot> killall <process name>
[09:26] <SurfnKid> yeah
[09:26] <SurfnKid> im actually just trying to kill one instance, if there is
[09:26] <SurfnKid> but apparently there's none
[09:26] <thomas_> anybody know how i can make the mute button on my remote mute PCM instead of MASTER?
[09:27] <SurfnKid> physicsnick, did you know it wasnt running when i ran the ps aux
[09:27] <SurfnKid> or when i ran the grep command
[09:27] <physicsnick> it's not running either way
[09:27] <physicsnick> see, when you run ps, that's a program in itself that goes on the stack
[09:27] <SurfnKid> yea i saaw
[09:27] <SurfnKid> heh
[09:27] <physicsnick> so when you do ps -aux | grep i8k, that command there contains the pattern i8k
[09:27] <physicsnick> so grep finds it
[09:27] <SurfnKid> so thats what it does
[09:27] <SurfnKid> ok ok
[09:27] <physicsnick> it doesn't find anything else. so no i8k process is running.
[09:27] <SurfnKid> :)
[09:27] <cwillu> thomas_: how is the remote set up?  if it's a gnome shortcut (i.e., acts kinda like a keyboard button), it should be easy
[09:28] <SurfnKid> weird linux stuff
[09:28] <SurfnKid> ok let me restart this thing
[09:28] <SurfnKid> thanks brb
[09:28] <thomas_> cwillu: it is an ati remote wonder. It is configured with Gnome Keyboard Shortcuts. It has a kernel module.
[09:28] <cwillu> thomas_: not that I know the exact procecure, but there's almost certainly a way do mute pcm from the command line, and so it's just a matter of finding the commandline, and where to put it
[09:29] <thomas_> cwillu: my problem is, the mute button mutes master, which only controls my front speakers. i want it to mute PCM so it will mute everything.
[09:29] <timalot> amixer ?
[09:29] <cwillu> thomas_: one sec
[09:29] <thomas_> cwillu: so i can make the mute key execute a command that toggles PCM mute/unmute?
[09:29] <cwillu> thomas_: almost certainly
[09:30] <snoop> hmm I install frostwire but when I launch it doesnt open
[09:30] <thomas_> cwillu: the trick then would be to be able to unmute it with the same key.
[09:30] <thomas_> snoop there were no errors?
[09:30] <snoop> nope
[09:31] <snoop> its in Applications - Internet I tried to launch it from there, but it wont open
[09:32] <snoop> hmm I get errors now for forstwire
[09:32] <snoop> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[09:32] <snoop> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[09:32] <snoop> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[09:32] <snoop> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[09:33] <physicsnick> snoop, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[09:33] <thomas_> amixer sset PCM unmute/mute
[09:33] <thomas_> how can i make those two commands in one toggle script?
[09:33] <snoop> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[09:34] <thomas_> !java
[09:34] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:34] <thomas_> follow that.
[09:34] <physicsnick> snoop, add multiverse
[09:34] <thomas_> !multiverse
[09:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:34] <rahul> how to make nautilus windows transparent?
[09:34] <physicsnick> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , then add multiverse to the standard repository
[09:35] <thomas_> oh amixer has a toggle argument!
[09:35] <thomas_> YES!
[09:35] <physicsnick> :)
[09:35] <thomas_> :D problem solved.
[09:35] <cwillu> well, that was sure annoying
[09:35] <thomas_> amixer sset PCM toggle
[09:35] <thomas_> thanks cwillu :D
[09:36] <thomas_> you pointed me in the right direction
[09:36] <thomas_> that command works like a charm.
[09:36] <snoop> how to add multiverse?
[09:36] <physicsnick> snoop, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , then add multiverse to the standard repository
[09:36] <rahul> how to make nautilus semi-transparent anybody
[09:36] <snoop> physicksnick I know where not sure what to put thought
[09:36] <thomas_> cwillu i found the mute/unmute commands, but i needed it to toggle, but amixer has a toggle argument
[09:36] <thomas_> :D
[09:36] <cwillu> thomas_: no problem :)  (sorry, rant was regarding gnome-panel dieing, and taking gaim out with it)
[09:36] <thomas_> snoop just save it
[09:36] <cw666> silly question, but i
[09:37] <cw666> grr
[09:37] <thomas_> the file already exists.
[09:37] <snoop> ?
[09:37] <cw666> someone please move that key :-)
[09:37] <snoop> I dont see any multiverse link though
[09:37] <timalot> wot
[09:37] <physicsnick> then sudo apt-get update
[09:37] <cw666> silly question, but i'm assuming people have libdvdcss2 on iamd64 working?
[09:37] <thomas_> snoop: the file you were told to open already exists. all you need to do is save it.
[09:37] <thomas_> !libdvdcss2
[09:37] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:37] <thomas_> no
[09:37] <thomas_> don't follow that
[09:37] <thomas_> !restricted
[09:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:37] <thomas_> its in there.
[09:38] <cw666> thomas_: well, that's why i'm here
[09:38] <thomas_> cw666: follow that link there.
[09:38] <cw666> thomas_: ive read it
[09:38] <thomas_> cw666: the first one.
[09:38] <snoop> I did apt-get upgrade still get the same errors
[09:38] <cw666> people claim it works
[09:38] <thomas_> cw666: then you saw dvd support near the bottom?
[09:39] <cw666> yeah
[09:39] <thomas_> cw666: it does work. i reinstalled it yesterday. ripped a dvd yesterday/
[09:39] <thomas_> anyways
[09:39] <cw666> thomas_: using dvdbackup?
[09:39] <thomas_> thanks guys.
[09:39] <thomas_> cw666: no i use thoggen
[09:39] <cw666> hrm
[09:39] <mike-ekim> what package do i need to dl to run java appliocations
[09:39] <mike-ekim> with apt-get
[09:39] <snoop> ;\
[09:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell mike-ekim about java
[09:40] <cw666> thomas_: what dvd drive?
[09:40] <mike-ekim> ubotu: tell mike-ekim about java
[09:40] <mike-ekim> damn
[09:40] <thomas_> cw666: its indiscriminate.
[09:40] <mike-ekim> oh he pms me
[09:40] <mike-ekim> lol
[09:40] <cw666> thomas_: well yeah, it should be
[09:40] <thomas_> cw666: its software decryption.
[09:41] <cw666> thomas_: let me explain
[09:41] <cw666> this works on i386 machines here
[09:41] <cw666> but not iamd64 ones
[09:41] <cw666> not even using a chroot
[09:41] <cw666> and i'm sorta at a loss as to why
[09:41] <oskude> !enter
[09:41] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:42] <thomas_> cw666: because its very complex stuff. dvd jon created it. it didn't make it for every arch.
[09:42] <mike-ekim> hm  that package wasnt found the one the bot told me to get
[09:42] <Madpilot> mike-ekim, do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?
[09:43] <kandala> Can anyone help me in configuring my Wireless ! I got an AMD based laptop with a Broadcomm Wireless Interface.
[09:43] <thomas_> !broadcomm
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broadcomm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <mike-ekim> nah
[09:43] <thomas_> !ndiswrapper
[09:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:43] <mike-ekim> is there another package name maybe i can get?
[09:44] <thomas_> mike-ekim... read this
[09:44] <thomas_> !restricted
[09:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:44] <thomas_> its in there.
[09:44] <Madpilot> mike-ekim, you need to get Universe & Multiverse enabled, that's all
[09:44] <timalot> mike-ekim:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell mike-ekim about repos
[09:44] <thomas_> oh yeah.
[09:44] <thomas_> i always assume people have all the repositories enabled....
[09:45] <kandala> ubotu: Thanks, I will have a look at it
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thanks, I will have a look at it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <Madpilot> thomas_, not by default, they don't. Although for Edgy they might enable everything by default.
[09:45] <Madpilot> kandala, ubotu is a bot ;)
[09:45] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell kandala about yourself
[09:46] <thomas_> ubotu wants to be real...
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wants to be real... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <thomas_> damn... sorry.
[09:47] <OSV> I've installed Firestarter, opened port 80 for everyone, but apache still doesn't work
[09:47] <simpla> Heyas
[09:47] <OSV> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[09:47] <thomas_> OSV are you using a router? make sure port 80 is forwarded.
[09:47] <OSV> I'm using adsl modem
[09:48] <yakumo> hello can u help me
[09:49] <oskude> !helpme
[09:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <yakumo> i have frostwire install at my own user but when i change user i cant run my frostwire
[09:49] <yakumo> why is it?
[09:49] <kandala> I did all of that described here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking. But no luck :-(
[09:50] <thomas_> excellent i used xbind keys to run amixer sset PCM toggle to mute PCM instead of MASTER.
[09:50] <thomas_> i'm going to write this down :)
[09:50] <physicsnick> yakumo, what errors do you get?
[09:50] <physicsnick> frostwire may be configure to use the absolute paths to files in your user's home folder, which wouldn't be accessible by other users
[09:50] <yakumo> none
[09:51] <yakumo> it looks like it did not activate
[09:51] <jojoman02> how do i get xvmc in ubuntu?
[09:51] <yakumo> can i change the absolute path of my frostwire
[09:51] <thomas_> oh one thing i forgot! volume up/down
[09:52] <oskude> jojoman02: sudo apt-get install libxvmc1
[09:52] <ubuntu> hi my computer is crashed i opened it from ubuntu live cd now.. i am trying to mount my hdd and save my files.. can anybody tell me how can i mount?
[09:53] <hot_wheelz> Hi does anyone here have have a MythTv box using Ubuntu 6.06.1 a Asus P5B,Asus 7300GT, Hauppauge Nova - T 500 Dual Digital PCI housed in a silverstone lc16m by any chance? - pls ping me if yes
[09:53] <jojoman02> oskude: after i do that, how do i install it?
[09:53] <tabias> I am using the "ZOT printer server" and know it is lpd to use (lp1) but I have to fill in a queue in the install menu. What queue should it be?
[09:53] <oskude> jojoman02: that command installs it
[09:53] <jojoman02> oskude: do i need to modify the xorg.conf, is it an xorg module?
[09:53] <jojoman02> oskude: like Xv?
[09:53] <oskude> jojoman02: i have no idea
[09:54] <ufk> hi
[09:54] <ufk> what is the latest ubuntu branch?
[09:54] <ufk> dapper or is there something newer?|
[09:54] <oskude> !mount > ubuntu
[09:54] <jamx> ufk: edgy, but its in beta
[09:54] <Phlosten> ufk: dapper
[09:54] <jojoman02> !info xvmc
[09:54] <Phlosten> ufk: edgy is at end of october
[09:54] <ufk> edgy is cool :)
[09:54] <ubotu> Package xvmc does not exist in any distro I know
[09:54] <ufk> thanks
[09:54] <oskude> ubuntu: but on the console its "sudo mount /dev/??? /media/???" if its not in fstab
[09:55] <jordan_> Gnome settings manager isn't working.
[09:55] <jordan_> Sorry, I mean gnome-theme-manager.
[09:55] <oskude> jojoman02: you could get more info with "apt-cache show libxvmc1"
[09:55] <jordan_> I get the error
[09:56] <jordan_> (gnome-theme-manager:11082): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[09:57] <oskude> jojoman02: and dunno if this has something to say " At the moment, driver support for XvMC is poor to non-existent."
[09:57] <jojoman02> oskude: yeah, i just saw but i think nvidia drivers support it...
[09:57] <kandala> anyone using Broadcomm wireless without any problems?
[09:57] <jordan_> kandala, Yes.
[09:58] <kandala> jordan_: Do u have an AMD based machine?
[09:58] <jordan_> kandala, Are you having problems?
[09:58] <yakumo> how can i uninstall my frostwire? i try using add/remove program but frostwire isn't in the internet
[09:58] <kandala> jordan_:yes
[09:58] <jordan_> kandala, No, PPC.
[09:58] <OmegaNine> Are there ISO's that are for the 686 or are they only 386 and x64?
[09:58] <jordan_> kandala, Have you tried fwcutter?
[09:58] <kandala> jordan_: I got an AMD Turion laptop and I am not able to connect to my wireless internet
[09:59] <kandala> jordan_: what is fwcutter
[09:59] <oskude> OmegaNine: 386 runs in 686 too, if you want 686 kernel, you can install it manually after you installed using 386
[09:59] <jordan_> kandala, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[09:59] <thoreauputic> kandala: I'm using a bcm card here on an ibook G4
[09:59] <OmegaNine> oskude: I did, it broke all my drivers
[10:00] <kandala> jordan_: ok! I will have a look at it!
[10:00] <snoop> Starting FrostWire...
[10:00] <snoop> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[10:00] <snoop> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[10:00] <snoop> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[10:00] <snoop> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[10:00] <snoop> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[10:00] <oskude> OmegaNine: define "broke all my drives"
[10:00] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx
[10:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:00] <snoop> anyone can help me with that?
[10:00] <kandala> ubotu: I did all that described there, but no luck :-(
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I did all that described there, but no luck :-( - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <jordan_> kandala, ubotu is a bot :)
[10:01] <kandala> jordan_: :-)
[10:01] <OmegaNine> oskude:  video drivers (that was just a recompile) stoped working, wireless I have never got working again, and my sound only have one channel now.
[10:02] <jordan_> When I run gnome-theme-manager. I get the error
[10:02] <jordan_> (gnome-theme-manager:11082): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[10:02] <oskude> OmegaNine: hmm... i wonder what i should say to that...
[10:03] <jojoman02> how can i download the package nvidia-glx and all the debs normally not included in ubuntu-desktop?
[10:04] <oskude> jojoman02: download or install (over internet) ?
[10:04] <timalot> OmegaNine: are u using a linux-image-686 package?
[10:04] <OmegaNine> Yeah, but its been a while, there is an update for it.   Lots of people. Just a quick one, to those in the know. :) I started off with Unbuntu (Dapper), then installed Kubuntu-desktop about a week later. All is well, but KDE continually 'forgets' my dns settings. I have to reset them every time. Remembers my IP address, netmask, gateway etc, just not dns. Any ideas? :x
[10:06] <oskude> jojoman02: i think there was a command to just to downlad packages (+debencies)...
[10:06] <ukAdamF> (oh, and if I switch to Gnome, all becomes well again)
[10:07] <oskude> !kubuntu > ukAdamF
[10:07] <jordan_> jojoman02, Use synaptic, select the packages you want, and then go to file -> generate download script.
[10:07] <timalot> ukAdamF: the resolver is configured with /etc/resolv.conf ....
[10:07] <ukAdamF> Sorry, I should have guessed I was in the wrong place.
[10:08] <jojoman02> jordan_: that is for offline use?
[10:08] <timalot> ukAdamF: are u talking about not being able to use internet names ? (eg DNS names do not resolve?)
[10:08] <ukAdamF> correct.
[10:09] <ukAdamF> Until I reset them in the system settings.
[10:09] <jordan_> jojoman02, Yes, it will create a bash script that you can run to download all of the .deb files ( it just uses wget )
[10:09] <ukAdamF> Changing /etc/resolv.conf makes no difference
[10:09] <OSV> I open port 80, firestarter doesn't block this port while scanning at http://scan.checkit.com (in events), but in this checker's report 80-th is blocked. why?
[10:09] <kandala> jordan_: I configured the eth1 interface with essid, WEP key, DHCP enabled......and when I do iwconfig, It displays all the things properly except for Access Point. It displays invalid against the Access Point. Will Installing fwcutter will solve this problem?
[10:09] <ukAdamF> It's a KDE problem I suspect, as Gnome works just dandy
[10:09] <dAndy> dAndy you say?
[10:09] <timalot> ukAdamF: can u use DNS names on the command line ie ... ping www.mit.edu?
[10:09] <OSV> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:10] <ukAdamF> timalot : I have to admit I haven't tried yet. I suspect not, as /etc/resolv.conf is empty upon reboot. Something somewhere is overwriting it
[10:10] <timalot> ah ok....
[10:10] <ukAdamF> It's not major, just annoying.
[10:11] <jordan_> kandala, I honestly don't know, using fwcutter only grabs firmware for you, so it can't heart anything ( like ndis wrapper sometimes does ) so there is no risk in trying it :)
[10:11] <O2> haha
[10:11] <OSV> so?
[10:11] <timalot> ukAdamF: ive never used KDE ... so i dont know...
[10:12] <kandala> jordan_: Ok!
[10:12] <O2> I've update my ubuntu, and it became much more beautiful!
[10:12] <ukAdamF> I haven't for years, last attempt was SuSE 6 ;)
[10:12] <OSV>  I open port 80, firestarter doesn't block this port while scanning at http://scan.checkit.com (in events), but in this checker's report 80-th is blocked. why?
[10:12] <jojoman02> jordan_: thankz for all the help :)
[10:13] <jordan_> jojoman02, No problem.
[10:13] <episch> Hello everyone, are there any devs alive?
[10:13] <timalot> ukAdamF: u can set the DNS server in resolv.conf by adding the line nameserver <my namserver address>
[10:14] <timalot> nameserver = dns server
[10:14] <ukAdamF> Yep. KDE doesn't seem to pick it up (although the shell does), and when I reboot its immediately blanked again. It's as if it's half trying to dhcp the details, but I can't see where.
[10:14] <jordan_> Is there any good alarm clock for linux? I havn't been able to find one.
[10:14] <ukAdamF> And even if it was, my router would give the right answers.. so I'm baffled.
[10:15] <episch> ok. is there an ubuntu security channel that anyone knows about?
[10:15] <timalot> jordan_: for the gnome-panel there is "Timer Applet" ... its pretty good
[10:21] <whyme> !powerpc
[10:21] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[10:21] <whyme> great, and how do I install onto a powerbook g3?
[10:22] <whyme> !guide
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <whyme> !installation
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:22] <oskude> whyme: well, like you would install any other os, no ?
[10:25] <snoop> I installed java but IM having path problems can anyone help?
[10:26] <jordan_> Whyme, You can install Ubuntu on a ppc machine the same way you would on an x86 machine.
[10:26] <snoop> I installed java but IM having path problems can anyone help?
[10:26] <whyme> oskude, jordan_, it doesn't boot into the cd...
[10:26] <whyme> just directly into os9.2 :(
[10:26] <jordan_> whyme, Did you hold down c?
[10:26] <whyme> just the letter c?
[10:27] <jordan_> whyme, Yes, when you boot the machine.
[10:27] <snoop> have your bios to boot with your cd drive instead of HD whyme
[10:27] <whyme> I tried with Command-Option-Shift-Delete.... but I don't know if this is a "newworld" or "oldworld" powerbook
[10:27] <jordan_> snoop, He's on a mac, no BIOS ;)
[10:27] <snoop> oh ok
[10:27] <whyme> lol
[10:27] <snoop> eew mac
[10:27] <snoop> ;p
[10:28] <whyme> I've installed ubuntu on 100's of machines, but never a mac.
[10:28] <whyme> and it's an old one at that
[10:28] <floppyears> hi, is it possible to use scp and copy more than 1 directory at a time ?
[10:28] <whyme> snoop, that's why I'm trying to get ubuntu on it.
[10:28] <snoop> yeah
[10:28] <boink> must be an old mac
[10:28] <snoop> I have a macbook
[10:28] <boink> which Mac is it?
[10:28] <oskude> whyme: good luck! :) i remember partitioning on mac was weird... (but the openfirmware rocks!)
[10:29] <boink> on some of the older macs, openfirmware doesn't work or something like that
[10:29] <snoop> can anyone help me with frostwire and java?
[10:29] <jordan_> whyme, Do you plan on trying to dual boot OS 9?
[10:29] <oskude> snoop: how should people help, if they dont know the exact problem ? !ask
[10:30] <snoop> I did
[10:30] <whyme> jordan_, jesus tap dancing christ! are you crazy?
[10:30] <oskude> snoop: ok, sorry, didnt see it...
[10:30] <whyme> !language
[10:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:30] <whyme> :P
[10:30] <snoop> oskude want me to paste the errors I get when I start frostwire again?
[10:31] <snoop> Starting FrostWire...
[10:31] <snoop> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[10:31] <snoop> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[10:31] <snoop> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[10:31] <snoop> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[10:31] <snoop> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[10:31] <jordan_> whyme, Just checking because HFS+ resising still isn't great, as long as you are whiping the drive clean you should have no problems installing Ubuntu.
[10:31] <snoop> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[10:31] <snoop> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[10:31] <snoop> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[10:32] <snoop> oskdude :|
[10:32] <snoop> oskude*
[10:32] <whyme> :( no joy.
[10:32] <BHSPitLappy_> omgosh I'm so happy *tear*
[10:32] <whyme> why?
[10:32] <oskude> !pastebin > snoop
[10:32] <jordan_> whyme, What mac is it again?
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy_> finally internet on my desktop.
[10:33] <oskude> snoop: i dont know anything about java or frostwire, sorry...
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy_> in ubuntu.
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy_> for the first time since we moved.
[10:33] <whyme> jordan_, it's a powerbook G3, black
[10:33] <floppyears> anybody ?
[10:33] <floppyears> how can OI copy more than 1 directory at a time using scp ?
[10:33] <oskude> floppyears: scp -r / cp -r
[10:33] <whyme> BHSPitLappy, what connection/machines are you using is on
[10:34] <BHSPitLappy_> uh
[10:34] <oskude> floppyears: "man scp" is your friend (search with / and then the word to search > enter)
[10:34] <BHSPitLappy_> wireless? edgy belkin
[10:34] <whyme> BHSPitLappy, DONT LEAVE!!!
[10:34] <whyme> aww, dammit
[10:35] <floppyears> oskude: yes I know how to use anman and / to serch like in less
[10:35] <floppyears> but I thought that maybe someobdy here knew how to do it
[10:35] <whyme> I've been having trouble with my wifi on t'other lappy.
[10:35] <oskude> floppyears: then you should have searched for "recirsive" in "man scp" ?
[10:35] <jordan_> whyme, If it has a black keyboard, it's an old world mac, bronz, it's new world.
[10:35] <oskude> floppyears: *recursive
[10:35] <whyme> *recursive
[10:35] <whyme> lol
[10:35] <whyme> =D
[10:36] <floppyears> oskude: I'm readly using scp -r to copy directories
[10:36] <floppyears> but I want to copy more than one directory at a tiime
[10:36] <jordan_> whyme, And if it has firewire then it is definately new world.
[10:36] <ulinskie> does anybody know a flv to avi converter that is opensource?
[10:37] <oskude> floppyears: then copy the parent dir ?
[10:37] <Daverocks> ulinskie: mencoder
[10:37] <floppyears> oskude: but I don't want all of the folders from within th eparent dir, just a few of them
[10:37] <whyme> jordan_, it's not even got usb... it's from '98
[10:37] <floppyears> and the files are too big to copy thoe whole parent dir
[10:37] <whyme> (it says)
[10:37] <whyme> but it's got ethernet
[10:38] <whyme> and some other things too,
[10:38] <oskude> floppyears: hmm, have you tried "scp -r dir1/ dir2/ dir3/ user@<IP_ADDRESS>:" ? (dont have any ssh host here to test atm)
[10:38] <jordan_> whyme, Then it's old world :(
[10:38] <floppyears> yeah, I'm about to try that
[10:38] <whyme> !expletive
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about expletive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <jordan_> whyme, I believe it is still possible to isntall though, I have just never done it.
[10:40] <tabias> how do I change the date in korganizer zo that google calendar shows up at the correct time (currently taking the utc time from the google calendar) (so online 10h my time will be 10h utc time in korganizer)
[10:41] <jordan_> whyme, I remember something about bootX.
[10:42] <jordan_> whyme, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[10:45] <javen> I can't install realplayer
[10:45] <javen> why?
[10:46] <kihai> Hi there! I have a prob with the loglevel of pam (At least I think it's due to pam). I'm using edubuntu with ltsp and want to log both the login times and the logout times of remotely connected users. Sadly only the login times are logged. I tried changing the loglevel of ssh_config, but it doesn't work. Logout times of locally logged in users are logged, but not those of remote users. What can I do to fix this? A log in /var/log/auth.log looks like this: Oct
[10:46] <crimsun> because you shouldn't.
[10:46] <crimsun> javen: ^^
[10:46] <boink> done an apt-cache search realplayer?
[10:47] <crimsun> javen: instead, enable the dapper-commercial repository and install the 'realplay' (note, not 'realplayer'!!) package.
[10:47] <therp> kihai: doesn't wtmp include logout times?
[10:47] <therp> kihai: but that's not what you've asked for..
[10:47] <boink> or you can download realplayer yourself from real.com
[10:47] <kihai> I'm not sure, but the logging takes place via ssh, so maybe this is the key problem...
[10:47] <boink> it's easy to install
[10:48] <swilliamson> morning all
[10:49] <kihai> therp: ...how can I access wtmp. When I cat it, it shows only gibberish...
[10:49] <therp> kiahi: last
[10:49] <jordan_> whyme, Are you still planning on installing Ubuntu?
[10:49] <swilliamson> have a couple quick questions, I installed ubuntu on my dell 820 laptop and all seems to work well, the only problem I have is when I connect my external 21" lcd the fonts on my LCD look washed out in bands, any ideas?
[10:49] <kihai> therp: Thought so... last only shows logins of local users...
[10:50] <therp> kihai: that's definately false for my system. wtmp logs all interactive sessions
[10:50] <kihai> therp: Are you using edubuntu's ltsp or ltsp 4.1/4.2?
[10:51] <therp> kihai: no
[10:51] <kihai> therp: Cause edubuntu uses ssh for connections
[10:51] <therp> kihai: my wtmp includes ssh sessions
[10:51] <therp> and that's regular behaviour
[10:51] <kihai> therp: Do you know where to configure that?
[10:52] <therp> imho sshd is responsible for that (maybe even pam as sshd uses the pam session directives). I have no idea, sorry.
[10:52] <whyme> jordan_, sry, was reading the guide
[10:53] <whyme> jordan_, yes I am... any other advice?
[10:53] <kihai> therp: I already tried to increase the loglevel of sshd, but I don't know where to change loglevels of pam, or changing any settings of pam at all...
[10:54] <therp> kihai: usually /etc/pam.d
[10:55] <mnepton> kihai: are you using a dedicated server, or a server running in a VM?
[10:56] <mnepton> (if it's a VM, be sure to check the config files in the VM as well as the host)
[10:57] <jordan_> whyme, No, just have fun, I have never had to install on an old world mac, and from the looks of that page I hope I never will ;)
[10:57] <whyme> lol
[10:57] <whyme> =D
[10:57] <whyme> thanks.
[10:57] <whyme> I'll let you know how I get along....
[10:57] <whyme> :S
[10:57] <mnepton> jordan_: you want NetBSD on an Old World Mac, trust me
[10:58] <mnepton> whyme: are you really considering Ubuntu on an Old Wortld Mac?
[10:58] <mnepton> -t
[10:58] <kihai> therp: Tried /etc/pam.d, but couldn't find any entry related to increasing loglevel or enabling logout logging.
[10:58] <kihai> mnepton: I'm using Edubuntu Server. It's not a dedicated one, though.
[10:59] <mnepton> kihai: so the Edubuntu instance is running in a VM?
[10:59] <mnepton> (the server instance)
[10:59] <whyme> mnepton, what I'm considering, is that I don't want os9 on it.
[10:59] <mnepton> whyme: NetBSD
[10:59] <whyme> ok
[10:59] <whyme> do it
[10:59] <whyme> it's the laptop to my left.
[11:00] <whyme> I'm off to get some coffee
[11:00] <kihai> mnepton: Nope. It's a regular, physical server and the clients are connected to it via LAN
[11:00] <jordan_> lol
[11:00] <whyme> mnepton, any ideas about how I should go about it?
[11:00] <mnepton> whyme: i work for Canonical. i probably know more about old Macs than anyone in the company besides Jim Troup. and i run NetBSD on my 68K. :)
[11:00] <whyme> lol
[11:00] <whyme> fancy lending a hand?
[11:00] <mnepton> Linux + old world = bag of hell
[11:01] <whyme> it *just* needs to work... somehow.
[11:01] <mnepton> just read the mac-ppc or m68k guides for NetBSD twice. three times if drunk.
[11:01] <whyme> lol
[11:02] <mnepton> they're pretty good, and will get you set up. but they're dense, and take a long time to digest.
[11:02] <whyme> ok, thanks. I'll heed your advice and let the boss man know that his attempts at keeping this machine alive for an entire decade might be foiled
[11:02] <LazyAngel> does anyone know how i can set the permission on a folder, so all files and subfolders will have the same permission? (and same group)
[11:02] <mnepton> uhhh ... yeah
[11:02] <Daverocks> LazyAngel: use chmod or chown with the -R option
[11:02] <mnepton> (that being said, my Quadra 605 is the NTP server for Canonical's Montreal office) ;)
[11:02] <jordan_> LazyAngel, Use -R.
[11:03] <whyme> llol
[11:03] <LazyAngel> sorry, i wasn't quite clear. I meant so they are changed when new files are added
[11:03] <mnepton> whyme: what model Mac?
[11:03] <whyme> it's a '98 powerbook g3
[11:03] <Hitch> use umask
[11:03] <Hitch> LazyAngel
[11:03] <mnepton> LazyAngel: +s
[11:03] <Hitch> LazyAngel use the umask
[11:04] <LazyAngel> Hitch: thanks
[11:04] <mnepton> whyme: what's the point of keeping it alive at all?
[11:04] <LazyAngel> mnepton: i dont think chmod +s will do that?
[11:04] <whyme> mnepton, sentimental reasons?
[11:04] <mnepton> whyme: put it out to pasture and let it spend its last days eating canned pears and having some minimum wage orderly change its adult diapers.
[11:05] <Hitch> but the umask is in inverse LazyAngel
[11:05] <mnepton> LazyAngel: "When the group ID bit is set on a directory, all files created under it subsequently receive the group ID of that directory. When the group ID bit is not set, files are created with the group ID of the creating process/user."
[11:05] <swilliamson> ok maybe question2 will be better, I have been tasked to find a corporate proxy solution so we can monitor internet usage, my thought was ubuntu server with squid, and then maybe SARG for reporting.  Anyone have any better ideas?
[11:05] <whyme> mnepton, bossman read your comments.
[11:05] <Hitch> => umask 000 something => everything know will be 777 LazyAngel
[11:06] <whyme> I'll reinstall os9.2.1 on it, and squeez the last little bit of life out of it..
[11:06] <LazyAngel> Hitch: mnepton: ok. then it is actually the +s i want
[11:06] <whyme> when it's ready to be chucked, I'll take it over and see if I can play with it a little.
[11:06] <whyme> :
[11:06] <whyme> :
[11:06] <whyme> :@
[11:06] <whyme> :), is what I mean
[11:06] <whyme> :P
[11:06] <Madpilot> !enter
[11:06] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[11:07] <whyme> huh?
[11:07] <mnepton> whyme: donate it to charity and take a $3K tax write-off ;)
[11:08] <Schalken> is it possible to split a file in to two parts, and then merge them back together afterwards?
[11:10] <mAIJK> Hi, I have recently installed ubuntu and I installed nvidia-glx now... When I do that th driver doesn't change from "nv" to "nvidia".. If I change this myself then my screen cant get signal whenI reboot...  It just work in 1280x1024, not in 1600x1200. But with the old "nv" driver I can use 1600x1200.. Please help...
[11:10] <KurtKraut> Schalken, yes, it is. I cant remember how but sure, you can.
[11:11] <seraphim> mAIJK: i also had a problem with that. coultn't use 1280x1024, had to use 1280x960. with edgy beta it disappeared
[11:11] <Schalken> KurtKraut: Do you know someone/someone that does remember how? ;)
[11:11] <mAIJK> seraphim: edgy beta?
[11:12] <dibblego> should a rc script necessarily return?
[11:12] <seraphim> the next version of ubuntu. but it's still beta and can have severe bugs.
[11:12] <HumanPrototype> hi
[11:12] <KurtKraut> Schalken, usually ubuntuforums.org is the right place for that. The next person who knows how to do it and had I nigh of a sleep (that I havent) may remember and give you further details
[11:12] <whyme> mnepton, it won't even boot off the os9.2 cd! holding down 'c' doesn't work... nor does the crazy arsed Command-Option-Shift-Delete
[11:12] <whyme> !!
[11:12] <Hitch> does anybody know the repository to get mysql-server 5.0?
[11:12] <HumanPrototype> how do i change from 32bit to 64bit?
[11:12] <Schalken> KurtKraut: lol cheers :D
[11:12] <HumanPrototype> Hitch, try the universe or multiverse repos
[11:13] <mnepton> whyme: flash the PRAM. opt-cmd-p-r and let it chime 5 times.
[11:13] <KurtKraut> Schalken, there is a friend of mine over Gaim telling that he sent me 3 films to watch and I cant remember that. So I'm kind of 'memoryless' because of the lack of sleep
[11:13] <whyme> is the the letters 'p' and 'r'?
[11:13] <Hitch> HumanPrototype, I've got the ubuntu Breezy on my desktop
[11:13] <whyme> mnepton, and is that on boot?
[11:13] <mnepton> yup
[11:14] <HumanPrototype> Hitch, open a terminal then type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:14] <LazyAngel> ok. so far, so good. i have a dir where all group members can store files. The directory has +s so all files stored in there will have the same group as the dir. But most users in the folder has umask set so when they create files, it will be 600. I don't want to change all user accounts. (and i don't want to) But i need the files to have permission 660.
[11:14] <Schalken> KurtKraut: well this time on IRC could be spent sleeping...
[11:14] <LazyAngel> mnepton: don't go just yet. read my question please :)
[11:15] <cpk2> HumanPrototype: you should use gksudo for gedit
[11:15] <Hitch> HumanPrototype, and then?
[11:15] <KurtKraut> Schalken, unfortunately no. I'm just waiting a bit to go to work... (only if at that time I can remember who to go there)
[11:16] <HumanPrototype> Hitch, then find the lines for universe and multiverse and enable them - i think there are breezy versions
[11:16] <HumanPrototype> Hitch, or this : http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:16] <Schalken> KurtKraut: lol
[11:16] <Riot777> hello
[11:16] <motin_> can someone please tell me how to burn a data-dvd when gnomebaker just freezes, k3b just produces error output and nautilus doesn't support on-the-fly burning and no partition has 4,5 gb free space?
[11:17] <KurtKraut> Schalken, have you have had memory loss by the lack of sleep or intensive work ?
[11:17] <whyme> motin_, with a pencil?
[11:17] <Riot777> motin_: try graveman
[11:17] <Hitch> thanks HumanPrototype
[11:17] <motin_> Riot777: so I will. thx
[11:17] <HumanPrototype> Hitch, no pros - thats a useful bookmark :D
[11:18] <Riot777> np I hope it will be helpful
[11:18] <Schalken> KurtKraut: normally at that point i cant be bothered TRYING to remember something
[11:18] <maijanew> hi, how can I convert file names from one encoding to other? My file names after move to ubuntu now look like "t?ext??.txt".
[11:18] <KurtKraut> Schalken, I understand
[11:19] <SurfnKid> stupid fan
[11:20] <KurtKraut> Schalken, I cant remeber thing but I can think (yet at least). I'm installing xarchive packge. May be it does what you want
[11:20] <bashup> hi, will firefox name be changed in ubuntu, as in debian?
[11:20] <KurtKraut> Schalken, if this works... could tell me atory to sleep (at bed) ?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> bashup: what is it called in debian?
[11:21] <OmniD> I'm trying to burn something and it keeps saying I don't have enough space. The amount of space that is being taken up on the DVD is only 1.4 gigs however...
[11:21] <KurtKraut> bashup, probably no.
[11:21] <Schalken> KurtKraut: agreed
[11:21] <bashup> for now, it's firefox :). But it will be changed to "IceWeasel" or "Spitfire", due to a logo conflict
[11:21] <KurtKraut> Schalken, *a story
[11:22] <gnomefreak> bashup: i havent heard of it changing and as of edgy its stil firefox
[11:22] <motin_> Riot777: now graveman complains as well... Input Output error
[11:22] <KurtKraut> bashup, this issue is no big deal at ubuntu
[11:22] <oskude> bashup: ubuntu doesnt use the trademarked fx logo neither... (atleast i cant see it)
[11:22] <anilomkar> I am having problem with SifyBroadband Client when i am trying to login it is saying "get the latest version of client" please help me
[11:22] <Riot777> :(
[11:22] <Riot777> hmm
[11:22] <bashup> ok ok. I thought it since Ubuntu is a fork of Debian
[11:23] <KurtKraut> bashup, it is not a fork
[11:23] <Riot777> motin_: maybe try pointing the kernel to your DVDRW drive
[11:23] <Riot777> by grub
[11:23] <motin_> Riot777: what do you mean?
[11:23] <KurtKraut> bashup, in the past, it was based in Debian. This is where it came from. And yes, use all .deb stuff. But Ubuntu is not Debian.
[11:23] <Riot777> w8 I will find it
[11:23] <anilomkar> is there any alternate dailer for SifyBroadband???
[11:24] <bashup> ok
[11:24] <KurtKraut> Schalken, bad news.. xarchiver doesnt do spawning as you want.
[11:24] <Riot777> hdc(<-- here your drive)=ide-cd
[11:25] <anilomkar> SifyBroadband client is not working in Ubuntu please help me
[11:25] <Riot777> you must add it to grub config at the kernel configuration
[11:25] <Schalken> KurtKraut: no bedtime story for u then :P
[11:25] <motin_> Riot777: i am not following... is there a howto on this?
[11:25] <motin_> :/
[11:25] <KurtKraut> Schalken, ahahhaha :P
[11:25] <motin_> I did burn a DVD once with gnomebaker, it worked, albeit slowly
[11:26] <anilomkar> ubotu, SifyBroadband
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SifyBroadband - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <mAIJK> Why does my ---> driver "nvidia" <--- only work with 1280x1024 and not 1600x1200? 1600x1200 works fine with the old ---> driver "nv" <--- ???
[11:27] <jojoman02> which mobo company(s) works best with Ubuntu (or linux) in general
[11:28] <KurtKraut> mAIJK, if no one replies you in your second attemp here, try asking in ubuntuforums.org
[11:28] <mAIJK> KurtKraut: Ok!
[11:28] <ye_olde_fortran> mAIJK, you are a lucky person. lol
[11:29] <ye_olde_fortran> i'd kill for a nvidia graphic card in my laptop
[11:29] <Daverocks> more and more laptops these days have nvidia cards in them
[11:29] <whyme> mAIJK, can you paste your xorg.conf for us?
[11:29] <mAIJK> whyme: Yes, one second!
[11:29] <KurtKraut> whyme, tell him where to paste properly please
[11:30] <whyme> lol, sry
[11:30] <whyme> pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:30] <mAIJK> pastebin
[11:30] <mAIJK> I know
[11:30] <ye_olde_fortran> yes, but are more expensive than those which have ati or intel cards
[11:30] <whyme> (but you can paste it anywhere you want
[11:30] <whyme> )
[11:30] <Hitch> why should someone care for his graphic card?
[11:30] <Daverocks> ye_olde_fortran: in general, yes :P
[11:30] <mnepton> mAIJK: did you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" after installing the new driver?
[11:30] <mAIJK> Now, I changed in my xorg myself!
[11:31] <mAIJK> Changed to driver "nvidia" and commented out Load "dri"
[11:31] <ye_olde_fortran> ati graphic cards are not bad, though. They only problems are the f**** driver and the handicap to their opengl implementation
[11:31] <mnepton> ye_olde_fortran: nVidia's driver is no better.
[11:32] <ye_olde_fortran> but nvidia cards have a better opengl implementation
[11:32] <mnepton> ye_olde_fortran: it may be of better quality, but it's still a binary blob.
[11:32] <mAIJK> whyme:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26147/
[11:32] <Hitch> everyday I login here and everyday someone has a problem with his nvidia card!
[11:32] <ye_olde_fortran> yeah, i know, i know
[11:32] <jojoman02> imho the linux nvidia drivers are better
[11:32] <mAIJK> I removed some of the info in the pastebin
[11:33] <ye_olde_fortran> well, i have a desktop computer with a nvidia graphic card, and it works quite fine
[11:33] <whyme> mAIJK, hangon - you're on a lappy?
[11:33] <mAIJK> whyme: no
[11:33] <mAIJK> GeForce 7600GT on AMD Athlon 64 3500+
[11:33] <whyme> I'm on nvidia all the way, both desktop and craptop
[11:33] <whyme> works fine:)
[11:33] <michael_Art> Hi
[11:33] <ye_olde_fortran> the card is a little oldie... geforce 4 mmx
[11:33] <Hitch> I need the repository for the mysql server 5.0 for the dapper pls!
[11:34] <oskude> !info mysql-server
[11:34] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.2 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 68 kB
[11:34] <michael_Art> HELP! I am an absolut ubuntu and linux newbe.
[11:34] <mAIJK> whyme: Can you find something in my pastebin that is wrong? I have removed 1600x1200 in 24bits mode becaus it doesnt work
[11:34] <mAIJK> whyme:  I know that its needed to be there to run
[11:34] <michael_Art> I need to get my scsa scanner running, but I have no clue
[11:35] <Hitch> ubotu, I need the repository
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I need the repository - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <whyme> mAIJK, oh right, I was going to tell you to add it in... I can't find anything particularly wrong in it....
[11:35] <oskude> Hitch: read it " In component main"
[11:35] <mnepton> Hitch: "main," like the bot said
[11:35] <michael_Art> I even found the coresponding documentation chapter, but I don't understand them at all
[11:35] <wedgeV> where can i get 2.6.18 or later -mm packages for ubuntu edgy?
[11:35] <mAIJK> whyme:  I know, really strange
[11:35] <mAIJK> whyme:  and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will not help I think.....
[11:36] <whyme> well, I don't usually use anything above 1280x1024
[11:36] <Hitch> thanks
[11:36] <whyme> so never been a problem
[11:36] <mAIJK> whyme:  I got an 21" so I need it
[11:36] <whyme> I got 2x22"
[11:36] <mnepton> mAIJK: i would run dkpg-reconfigure
[11:36] <mAIJK> The strange is that 1600x1200 works fine with "nv"
[11:36] <whyme> so I use 2560x1024
[11:36] <whyme> well, no
[11:37] <whyme> I use 1280X1024,1280x1024
[11:37] <whyme> but comes out the same
[11:37] <whyme> I guess that's why... but going back to your question, what gpu is it?
[11:37] <mAIJK> mnepton: Yes, but when the reconf ask alot about my display Hz and such thing I do not know what to answer
[11:38] <mAIJK> whyme: MSI GeForce 7600GT 256Mb
[11:38] <whyme> mAIJK, just press enter if you don't know
[11:38] <whyme> right, so it *should* be able to...
[11:38] <m14> mAIJK: What's problem?
[11:38] <whyme> try "sudo dpgk-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[11:38] <mAIJK> ok, 1moment
[11:39] <michael_Art> can you guys tell me if and how i can edit .conf files like the /etc/sane.d/snapscan.conf
[11:39] <mAIJK> I need to reboot after that huh?
[11:39] <boink> michael_Art: using vi
[11:39] <mAIJK> michael_Art: sudo vi /file.conf
[11:39] <michael_Art> this is at least what i think the documentation tryes to tell mel
[11:39] <dibblego> should rc scripts return or doesn't it matter?
[11:39] <boink> return?
[11:39] <michael_Art> on
[11:39] <dibblego> yes, return control
[11:40] <michael_Art> that is in the terminal
[11:40] <michael_Art> ?
[11:40] <michael_Art> ;-)
[11:40] <OmniD> how do I make it low priority on the ubuntu bug thing
[11:40] <dibblego> eh?
[11:40] <michael_Art> sorry, I am really not used to terminal interfaces
[11:40] <boink> the ubuntu rc.d/init.d are like any other System V startup scripts
[11:40] <dibblego> boink, and how is that?
[11:40] <boink> you have gedit as well
[11:41] <boink> but from Edgy Ubuntu will use a different start up .. "upstart"
[11:41] <tn3270> michael_Art : kate, gedit, pico, nano etc
[11:41] <dibblego> I once used an OS where a rc script didn't return and I'm pretty sure it was linux
[11:41] <mAIJK> whyme: sudo dpgk-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:41] <dibblego> and it screwed up the boot
[11:41] <mAIJK> whyme: sudo: dpgk-reconfigure: command not found
[11:42] <michael_Art> tn3270 EHAT????!?!?!?
[11:42] <tn3270> editors
[11:42] <whyme> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:42] <whyme> not found?!?!?!?
[11:42] <mAIJK> yes
[11:42] <whyme> umm...
[11:42] <tn3270> michael_Art: i think you need to run gksudo gedit filename or something
[11:42] <oskude> dpgk != dpkg
[11:42] <whyme> LOOOOOOL!!!!
[11:43] <whyme> yea, that'd be it.
[11:43] <mAIJK> lol
[11:43] <mAIJK> :)
[11:43] <mAIJK> CTRL+C
[11:43] <mAIJK> :P
[11:43] <whyme> sorry, 'bout that
[11:43] <mAIJK> Do I have to change back to 1600 in my xorg now?
[11:43] <mAIJK> and then reboot?
[11:44] <mAIJK> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:44] <mAIJK> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[11:44] <mAIJK>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20061010114323
[11:44] <anilomkar> ubotu, sify
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <mAIJK> No menu or something like that came
[11:44] <whyme> mAIJK, yea, that's the autoinstaller.
[11:44] <mAIJK> whyme: ok, then I dont need to change anything myself?
[11:44] <whyme> check your xorg.conf, add the 1600x1200
[11:44] <mAIJK> ok
[11:45] <whyme> make sure all is well, and reboot
[11:45] <whyme> :)
[11:45] <whyme> (and cross your fingers)
[11:45] <mAIJK> hehe
[11:45] <ye_olde_fortran> has anyone managed to install xgl-compiz for kde with an ati graphics card? I did, but x server was too slow and it does some odd repainting
[11:45] <mAIJK> It changed so Load "dri" was there again
[11:45] <mAIJK> Remove that one?
[11:45] <whyme> umm... yessss?
[11:45] <whyme> (hesitantly)
[11:45] <mAIJK> whyme: and it change to driver "nv"
[11:46] <mAIJK> And i dont want that!!
[11:46] <whyme> yea, change them both
[11:46] <whyme> !!
[11:46] <whyme> does it have a glcore too?
[11:46] <mAIJK> Then the conf will be back to the way when it does not work
[11:46] <whyme> hmm...
[11:46] <michael_Art> ok, I know, I am embarrasing: sudo vi got me into the file and i was able to remove the # from the outcommennted line.
[11:46] <michael_Art> HOW DO I SAVE???
[11:46] <tn3270> lol
[11:46] <tn3270> :wq
[11:46] <mAIJK> whyme:  no glcore... Im trying with an reboot now...
[11:46] <michael_Art> this is not funny ;-)
[11:46] <tn3270> michael_Art : :wq
[11:47] <neil_d> is there a music program that can use a qwerty keyboard to play different notes?
[11:47] <tn3270> michael_Art : type ":wq"
[11:47] <tn3270> that's colon, write, quit
[11:48] <BHSPitLappy> neil_d, VKeyBd?
[11:48] <oskude> neil_d: the good old trackers used pc keyboard as that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracker
[11:49] <BHSPitLappy> that's in the repos
[11:49] <michael_Art> :I see
[11:49] <michael_Art> well, lets see, if that was really all needed...
[11:49] <ye_olde_fortran> bye all
[11:49] <michael_Art> no it was not
[11:50] <oskude> neil_d: "soundtracker" is _the_ under linux... but if you need something more "cool", check this http://skale.org/
[11:50] <tn3270> michael_Art: you could have gone with "gksudo gedit yourfile" btw
[11:50] <Schalken> if i burn an iso to cd, then create an iso from that cd, should both isos have the same md5sum?
[11:52] <Seveas> Schalken, yes
[11:52] <Seveas> glatzor, poke
[11:52] <michael_Art> tn3270: gn-what?
[11:53] <tn3270> gksudo gedit
[11:53] <tn3270> i think
[11:53] <boink> can you do sudo gedit ?
[11:53] <boink> or must it be gksudo ?
[11:54] <tn3270> don't think it will launch if you're trying to write a root-only file
[11:54] <glatzor> Hi Seveas
[11:54] <oskude> boink: using sudo for programs that run under x, may cause problems, i heard...
[11:54] <glatzor> Seveas: you removed the screenshot feature :/
[11:54] <glatzor> Seveas: that is said :)
[11:54] <glatzor> sad
[11:55] <michael_Art> well, i did the changes i though i ouch to do in the .conf file, but that doesn't seem to be tre problem
[11:55] <michael_Art> I actull am not even sure, the scsi adapter had been recognised
[11:55] <grodius> Can someone help me, I have an ATI card in an HP laptop, and im trying to get the resolution to work correctly.
[11:55] <neil_d> oskude: thanks I will look into that.
[11:56] <mAIJK> whyme: didn't work...
[11:56] <michael_Art> the help document "sane-scsi(5) si not really any help at all
[11:56] <michael_Art> at leat to mee
[11:56] <jojoman02> is there a way to disable the splash screen?
[11:56] <seraphim> boink, oskude, tn3270: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[11:56] <tn3270> michael_Art : sry i am bad at h/w, but you could look at your dmesg output
[11:57] <michael_Art> dmesg?
[11:57] <BlueEagle> jojoman02: Which splash screen? The bootsplash?
[11:57] <jojoman02> BlueEagle: the one after the username and pass in gdm
[11:58] <tn3270> michael_Art : yeah run "dmesg" in a terminal
[11:58] <Seveas> glatzor, I also changed the field names, so webboard is no longer working
[11:58] <tn3270> seraphim : tks nice link
[11:58] <Seveas> glatzor, the screenshot feature was being abused too much
[11:59] <tn3270> michael_Art : you should see some stuff regarding your scsi card if it was installed properly
[11:59] <whyme> mAIJK, you're on dapper, right? And you followed the doc.gwos.org guide, right?
[12:00] <mAIJK> whyme: I followed another guide. Going to read in this a bit.. bbl!
[12:00] <whyme> anyone know how to burn .nrg files under ubuntu?
[12:00] <whyme> kk
[12:00] <whyme> gl/hf
[12:00] <grodius> can someone tell me what FGLRX is, apparently its supposed to help me use my ATI card on my laptop... ??
[12:01] <michael_Art> have to run
[12:01] <jojoman02> what does dmesg do?
[12:01] <michael_Art> see you later
[12:01] <oskude> grodius: fglrx is the binary (closed source) driver from ati
[12:01] <shodanjr_gr> heya guys
[12:02] <PuGz> hey guys. i was hoping to get an extra firmware file included in the linux-restricted-modules package for edgy. how would i go about requesting this?
[12:02] <shodanjr_gr> i got a Q. Lets say i got a PC setup like this -> Partion 1-> Windows in NTFS, Partition 2->FAT32 for Data, The rest of the drive is left for ubuntu
[12:03] <shodanjr_gr> Is there a way to make an image of the Windows partition from Ubuntu so that i am able to restore it in case something goes wrong with Windows? (via Ubuntu again)
[12:03] <Unity> yep grodius is easy to install man, couple of copy & pastes froma  site somewhere and it installs + tests it for ya, i am linux newbie but managed yesterday
[12:03] <Unity> :-)
[12:03] <mjr> shodanjr_gr, yes; dd if=/dev/windowspartition of=windows.img
[12:03] <mjr> (umm, sudo dd etc)
[12:03] <mAIJK> whyme: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings --- Should I really install xconfig and nvidia-settings ???
[12:03] <glatzor> Seveas: would you like to drop me an email with the changes?
[12:03] <glatzor> Seveas: I am currently quite in a busy
[12:04] <Viking_> mrj: also could pipe through gzip or bzip2 for compressed image :)
[12:04] <Seveas> glatzor, will do, but I forgot your address
[12:04] <mjr> shodanjr_gr, of course, you can do fancier stuff also, like adding compression of the image :]
[12:04] <mjr> Viking_, yeah :)
[12:04] <shodanjr_gr> mjr will this keep a copy of the Bootloader to the image?
[12:04] <glatzor> Seveas: glatzor at ubuntu dot com :)
[12:04] <mAIJK> whyme:  never mind... I will not use legacy
[12:04] <Seveas> ok
[12:04] <whyme> oh, were you using legacy drivers?
[12:04] <whyme> that might actually have been the problem...
[12:05] <mjr> shodanjr_gr, it'd copy all of the windows partition, including the boot stuff, but not the MBR, where you'll have grub anyways so no problem
[12:05] <Viking_> shodanjr_gr:  bootloader isnt in the partition its in the master boot record (MBR)
[12:05] <tn3270> shodanjr_gr : you can dd the mbr too if you are afraid
[12:05] <shodanjr_gr> mjr aha, it doesnt matter that the partition is formated in NTFS in anyway?
[12:05] <mjr> shodanjr_gr, oh, and with compression, something like so: dd if=/dev/windowspartition | bzip2 -c > windows.img.bz2
[12:05] <Viking_> shodanjr_gr: nah ... its a binary dump
[12:05] <shodanjr_gr> ah
[12:05] <shodanjr_gr> ok guys
[12:05] <mjr> shodanjr_gr, no
[12:05] <shodanjr_gr> cheers :)
[12:06] <tn3270> gd luck
[12:07] <shodanjr_gr> Whats the name of the linux equivalent of the Windows Vista Aero dealie?
[12:07] <Viking_> compe.... something?
[12:07] <seraphim> XGL or AIGLX with compiz or beryl
[12:08] <shodanjr_gr> aha
[12:08] <shodanjr_gr> yeah, XGL, thats it... my brain stoped working there for a sec
[12:08] <newpZ> yeah and XGL/beryl rocks
[12:09] <enzo^_^> hi,is there anybody familiar with embedded linux,like uclinux
[12:10] <shodanjr_gr> Is 3d acceleration supported on the Intel 950GM family of chipsets
[12:10] <shodanjr_gr> ?
[12:10] <mjr> shodanjr_gr, yes
[12:10] <mjr> umm, scratch that, I'm not 100% sure if that's too new for dapper, the current release
[12:10] <shodanjr_gr> by default? Or do i need to apt-get something?
[12:11] <mjr> that is to say, there is support, not sure it is in Dapper by default.
[12:11] <shodanjr_gr> ah
[12:11] <shodanjr_gr> gota look it up :)
[12:11] <Viking_> for nvidia cards you have to load the binary driver to get accel .. not sure about the intel cards
[12:12] <mjr> Viking_, intels are supported with free drivers
[12:16] <tanath> can someone help me get my winkey working (in xgl)?
[12:16] <Viking_> mjr, k , thanks didnt know that
[12:16] <rioch> I've just installed ubuntu but during the install process I typed my name wrong (not login, but real name). Is there a way to change it?
[12:17] <oskude> !xgl > tanath
[12:17] <tanath> i read a tip on the forums that you can enable (fix) it in System > Prefs > Keyboard > Layout options, but it didn't work.
[12:17] <tanath> oskude, how's that help?
[12:18] <oskude> tanath: when you read what ubotu said "Help in #ubuntu-xgl"
[12:19] <rambo3> !info opera edgy
[12:19] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in edgy
[12:19] <newpZ> i would be hapy to get the mplayer plogin working in opera!
[12:20] <mnepton> rioch: System -> Admin -> Users And Groups
[12:20] <mnepton> newpZ: symlink the Firefox plugin to Opera's plugin dir
[12:20] <mnepton> newpZ: you may get better answers on OperaNet, though
[12:20] <rioch> mnepton: thanks!
[12:21] <newpZ> mnepton, which .so is it?
[12:21] <newpZ> i think i tried that already
[12:22] <kyja> I dont understand where I am going wrong wth grubconf-0.5.1
[12:22] <TomaszD> hello, I can't seem to get the answer in #ubuntu-translators. In which package in rosetta might I find the gnome-at-properties strings?
[12:23] <rambo3> newpZ, you can cat .mozilla/firefox/profile.ini and see for your self
[12:23] <rambo3> no not that one
[12:24] <newpZ> pluginreg.dat?
[12:24] <abhi> can anyone tell me how to install gtk+2 using apt-get? I can't find the correct name of gtk.
[12:25] <tsw> abhi: apt-cache search gtk 2 |less and pick the one that pleases you
[12:25] <newpZ>  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
[12:25] <newpZ> im thinking
[12:25] <abhi> thanks asw.
[12:26] <rambo3>  ls -la /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[12:27] <newpZ> rambo3, there are a ton of mplayer plugins there
[12:27] <newpZ> which one to link to opera plugins?
[12:27] <rambo3> i would think you just add dir
[12:27] <Viking_> abhi: you probably want libgtk
[12:28] <abhi> yes. I thing
[12:28] <newpZ> yeah that path is in pluginpath.ini
[12:28] <Viking_> abhi: libgtk2.0-0 is the name of the package on my host
[12:30] <abhi> thanks Viking_. Is this the library required during the installation of various apps.
[12:30] <newpZ> and all the docs i find via google have not yet been able to get me to get mplayer in opera working in dapper
[12:31] <Viking_> abhi: yes the are  great number of packages that would depend on this ... be a little surprised it didnt get installed during installation
[12:31] <newpZ> gxine will launch but says no demuxer found... i download the clip and it will play in gxine.. bugy!
[12:32] <bun-bun> anyone using google earth?
[12:33] <abhi> Viking_: I have already installed this file .But during the installation of napster it shows that GTK+ is not installed.
[12:33] <mnepton> newpZ: have you asked on OperaNet?
[12:34] <Viking_> abhi: ah .. well then something else is amiss
[12:34] <mnepton> abhi: Napster? did i fall asleep and time travel backwards? ;)
[12:34] <mnepton> abhi: where are you getting this package?
[12:35] <Viking_> abhi: try this ... sudo /sbin/ldconfig -v to update your library cache incase it cant find the libs
[12:35] <abhi> Viking_: I am confused about a lot of GTK+ library files .
[12:35] <newpZ> sorry got booted
[12:35] <newpZ> whats operanet?
[12:35] <mnepton> Opera Software's IRC server
[12:35] <abhi> mnepton: i got it from site
[12:36] <mnepton> irc.opera.com
[12:36] <mnepton> abhi: what site?
[12:36] <Viking_> abhi The system just has to know where to find them ... surprised if it isnt installed correctly already though
[12:36] <newpZ> cool ill try that
[12:36] <mnepton> newpZ: you want #opera over there
[12:36] <abhi> Viking_: ok i will try this.
[12:36] <abhi> mnepton: i forgot
[12:37] <newpZ> k trying now
[12:37] <newpZ> thans
[12:37] <mnepton> abhi: you know that that will not let you download music, right?
[12:37] <mnepton> abhi: Napster is a pay-for service. the free p2p network, and the clients that ran on it, have not been in operation for years.
[12:38] <mnepton> my guess is that that package requires an ancient (and therefore severely deprecated and hence unshipped) version of GTK
[12:39] <abhi> mnepton: i am just want to use it
[12:39] <Viking_> good point ... it may be looking for an older version of GTK
[12:39] <Viking_> does it report which version it expects?
[12:40] <abhi> Viking_: wait I will compile it
[12:41] <mnepton> abhi: but ... you *can't* use it. the network to which it connects is gone.
[12:41] <MaKaTiGuY> guys nid some help
[12:42] <MaKaTiGuY> im getting errors while installing ubuntu 6.06
[12:42] <abhi> mnepton: ooooooh.
[12:42] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: what kind of errors
[12:42] <MaKaTiGuY> buffer 1/0 error on device hdb, logical block
[12:43] <MaKaTiGuY> vfs: brelse: trying to free free buffer
[12:43] <Viking_> oooo ... not good hardware issues perhaps? new or old drive?
[12:43] <MaKaTiGuY> new
[12:43] <MaKaTiGuY> 160 Gb
[12:43] <Viking_> SATA?
[12:43] <MaKaTiGuY> nop
[12:43] <MaKaTiGuY> ATA
[12:44] <MaKaTiGuY> viking: what seems to be the problem?
[12:44] <Viking_> k there goes those ideas :)
[12:44] <reader> #c0r3
[12:45] <mnepton> MaKaTiGuY: time for fsck
[12:45] <whyme> how do I burn .nrg (nero) images in ubuntu? Gnomebaker doesn't recognise them... :(
[12:45] <reader> k3b
[12:45] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: hdb is that 160gb drive ? (not the cdrom?)
[12:45] <mnepton> whyme: why would you put images into a proprietary file format that one comapny controls?
[12:45] <mnepton> :P
[12:45] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: im not sure
[12:45] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: seems like its tried to make a release of a buffer that is already released ... hmmmm not sure what that  implies though
[12:46] <whyme> mnepton, yea, I put them there... right
[12:46] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: coz, i have 4 partitions on my hardrv
[12:46] <whyme> I didn't choose it, it's just how it is...
[12:46] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: do you know what is connected to ide bus 1 as slave ? (thats hdb)
[12:46] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: cdrom
[12:46] <mnepton> whyme: well, you have proprietary file formats. welcome to the world of greedy, commercial software.
[12:46] <whyme> do I *have* to install k3b? I don't want to muddy my system with all that cutie crap
[12:46] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: ok, so hdb is your cdrom
[12:46] <MaKaTiGuY> viking: i dont understand, im sorry, im new
[12:46] <whyme> mnepton, I didn't ask for the nrg file, I just got it.
[12:47] <reader> guys do you now any good program something such as crossover?
[12:47] <MaKaTiGuY> NTFS, does this matter
[12:47] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: is that an old cdrom ? try a boot option "ide=nodma" and allso try the "check cd" option to ensure the cd is ok
[12:47] <tkp> I just ran apt-get remove, to remove a package..
[12:47] <tkp> I now need to install it again
[12:47] <tkp> but apt-get install doesn't find it anymore
[12:48] <tkp> any ideas how to get it back?
[12:48] <cpk2> whyme: k3b is great, and its qt not cutie =P
[12:48] <Viking_> good point ... it may be trying to use a write cache that doesnt exist ...
[12:48] <cpk2> tkp: apt-get update?
[12:48] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: the cd is ok
[12:48] <tkp> cpk2: I did that
[12:48] <cpk2> tkp: did you change your repos recently?
[12:48] <MaKaTiGuY> all my partitions are in the NTFS format, does this matter?
[12:48] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: try installing again but append the ide=nodma option before booting the CD
[12:48] <tkp> cpk2: no...
[12:48] <tkp> but when running update, I get:
[12:48] <tkp> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[12:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: then try adding "ide=nodma" (without "") to the kernel boot options. a line you get when you press the F? key for "boot options" (on the bottom of screen)
[12:49] <cpk2> well you might want to get the gpg key from them if they are the ones with the package
[12:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: you cant install ubuntu on ntfs, if thats what you asked
[12:49] <MaKaTiGuY> viking: how do i do that
[12:50] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: once you boot ... there is an option to press a key to edit the options on boot
 MaKaTiGuY: you cant install ubuntu on ntfs, if thats what you asked <--- oh, maybe thats the problem
[12:50] <whyme> cpk2, it's not qute, nor funny.... either way, we're nearly on dialup here and it's asking me to download 40meg of kde apps
[12:50] <whyme> and I don't wanna
[12:50] <whyme> I'll just go and use indows
[12:50] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: ubuntu can read those, no problem... but to install you need to reformat them
[12:50] <tkp> cpk2: and where does that come from?
[12:50] <reader> tkp you have to add universe and multiverse to /etc/apt/source.list  if you have problem with NO_PUBKEY .....
[12:51] <cpk2> tkp: ideally where you got that repo from
[12:51] <brutopia> is it possible to use ubuntu linux in lan to redirect some netbios name to other computer in lan
[12:51] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: and thats definetly not the problem, as you said, hdb is cdrom, and hdb is not a partition...
[12:51] <cpk2> whyme: isnt there some burning app called gnomebaker or something?
[12:51] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: the other thing is you need to make sure your installing HDD that has space or make space to install
[12:51] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: just try the ide=nodma boot option and see if it works
[12:52] <whyme> cpk2, yea, but it doesn't recognise nrg files
[12:52] <whyme> :(
[12:52] <cpk2> oh =(
 hmmm...ok, i'll try that one
[12:52] <whyme> s'ok
[12:52] <kyja> what about k3b ?
[12:52] <MaKaTiGuY> thanks
[12:52] <cpk2> k3b recognizes .nrg?
[12:52] <whyme> kyja, we've altready covered that option
[12:52] <cpk2> isnt that a nero image?
[12:52] <kyja> not sure
[12:52] <whyme> ...
[12:52] <kyja> ah
[12:52] <whyme> cpk2, yea it is...
[12:52] <Viking_> whyme, there is a nero for linux but not sure
[12:52] <cpk2> eww nero images
[12:53] <Viking_> ... if I would install it
[12:53] <cpk2> there might be something that will convert .nrg to .iso
[12:53] <cpk2> there are similiar things for .cue files or whatever
[12:54] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: before i re start, can i convert my drive to FAT32?
[12:54] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: you can allso do that in ubuntu (when it starts) in the install process
[12:55] <MaKaTiGuY> ok, tnx
[12:55] <MaKaTiGuY> brb
[12:56] <shodanjr_gr> is there a PCMCIA USB 2.0 card that works well with ubuntu?
[12:59] <root> hi everyone
[12:59] <root> I need your help
[12:59] <rambo3> !root
[12:59] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:59] <root> It's for the installation
[01:00] <root> I'm trying to install ubuntu this is why i'm with root
[01:00] <root> the error is:
[01:00] <root>     choices = unicode(self.db.metaget(question, 'choices'), 'utf-8')
[01:00] <root> UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 94-95: invalid data
[01:00] <oskude> !pastebin
[01:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:01] <root> does someone has an idea how I can change the unicode?
[01:01] <rambo3> !locales>root
[01:04] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: hdc
[01:04] <just4freeze> hello room
[01:05] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: whats with that ?
[01:05] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: 1/0 error, hdc
[01:05] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: 1/0 error, hd
[01:05] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: hmm, allso with ide=nodma ?
[01:06] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: i have 4 partions on my hD, 3 are in the NTFS format, 1 fat32
[01:06] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: and whats in hdc ? (ide bus2 master)
[01:06] <CromagDK> !dualboot
[01:06] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:06] <CromagDK> thnkx :D
[01:06] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[01:06] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: you said you get those errors at booting the desktop cd ? that doesnt touch the harddisks...
[01:06] <Viking_> oskude: I thought he said during installation
[01:07] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: during installation
[01:07] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: oh indeed, my bad, sorry...
[01:07] <MaKaTiGuY> its ok..
[01:08] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: you said i cant install ubuntu on a NTFS format
[01:08] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: you said that i cant install ubuntu on a NTFS format
[01:08] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: no i didnt!
[01:08] <MaKaTiGuY> oh sorry
[01:08] <MaKaTiGuY> so i can?
[01:08] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: nope
[01:09] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: and only cause microsoft doesnt give the needed information about the ntfs format
[01:09] <just4freeze> why my usplash blank after update something?
 MaKaTiGuY: fdisk -l /dev/hdc <--- where do i type this one, sorry for being slow, 1st time in linux
[01:09] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: i would recommend using ext3 as format for ubuntu /
[01:10] <MaKaTiGuY> ext3?
[01:10] <oskude> ext3
[01:10] <oskude> !ext3
[01:10] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[01:10] <Celeste> hi
[01:10] <Celeste> what is the "file system type" which I have to define for a DVD via the  -t  option in "mount" please?
[01:10] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: you _cant_ install ubuntu on ntfs or fat(32)
[01:10] <mjr> Celeste, udf
[01:11] <boink> and nfts and fat are horrible file systems
[01:11] <boink> s/nfts/ntfs/
[01:11] <Celeste> thank you mjr
[01:11] <mjr> ntfs isn't really that horrible, just that it's proprietary
[01:12] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: you would type that in a terminal session
[01:12] <Viking_> are you in the boot process? or are you running ubuntu already
[01:12] <fbenites> hi!
[01:12] <MaKaTiGuY> viking: xp
[01:13] <Viking_> k
[01:13] <fbenites> i got a ubuntu server printer (i mean the printer is connected to the ubuntu machine) the windows machines can see the printer with the smb connection, but when i print it sees awfull (in the smb.conf i use client driver =yes , if i set to no, it doesnt print at all)
[01:14] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : which partitions if any, are you planning to lose
[01:14] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: any partition
[01:14] <MaKaTiGuY> i would like to have a dual boot
[01:14] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : eh
[01:15] <Viking_> does the new hdc have any partitions installed on it?
[01:15] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : are all your 4 partitions "primary"
[01:15] <MaKaTiGuY> viking: 4 partitons
[01:15] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: one way would be, delete the partition you dont need, and let ubuntu installer use that unpartitioned space
[01:15] <fbenites> printing with http://ip:631 works nice but my ip changes (dhcp) and i dont have control over that
[01:16] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : if there is already an extended partition, it is more challenging
[01:16] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : in windows you can use your disk manager to check
[01:16] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: how do i do that
[01:17] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : right click "my comp", manage
[01:17] <oskude> MaKaTiGuY: i dont know "nothing" about xp, sorry ;)
[01:17] <nex_> howdy
[01:17] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY: shld be under admin tools or something
[01:17] <oskude> fbenites: where is the dhcp server ? can you acces it and set mac-addres-foo gets ip foo ?
[01:17] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: ok
[01:18] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY: you have how many physical disks actually?
[01:18] <fbenites> oskude nope
[01:18] <MaKaTiGuY> oskude: : )
[01:18] <[Nige] > how do I find out the version of mplayer i have?
[01:18] <fbenites> it is here a huge network, it is somewhat difficult to contact the admin for chaning it, if there is another way
[01:19] <wickedpuppy> [Nige] , open up mplayer and go to help ? there should be info or about
[01:19] <[Nige] > i will check again
[01:19] <oskude> fbenites: for the ip changes, dunno... on internet dyndns.org (or such) would help
[01:19] <mumbles> how do i find out what program is running ?
[01:19] <mumbles> wich
[01:19] <wickedpuppy> ps aux
[01:19] <mumbles> its either aptuid or symatic
[01:19] <mngrif> would someone know of a quick guide for setting up hostap?
[01:20] <NET||abuse> anyone know if there's a team speak client in the debs anywhere??
[01:20] <oskude> mngrif: whats hostap ?
[01:20] <NET||abuse> hostap?
[01:20] <[Nige] > wickedpuppy, i didnt see it there
[01:20] <root> snif still doesnt work
[01:20] <wickedpuppy> mumbles, its ps aux .. if you want to know the programs that are running ...
[01:20] <mngrif> *sigh*
[01:20] <MaKaTiGuY> i have 1 primary partition and 3 logical drives
[01:20] <mngrif> http://hostap.epitest.fi/
[01:20] <fbenites> oskude: nice idea... although not very useful, since i must install more software... there should be away out with smb...
[01:20] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY: hmm, how many h/d?
[01:20] <mumbles> wickedpuppy thanks - cant see the program thats supposadly running though
[01:20] <mngrif> in short, it allows most any wifi card in a computer to become a wifi access point for other boxen
[01:21] <wickedpuppy> [Nige] , then go to synaptic and search for mplayer ... see the version that is currently installled .. i don't have it installed. i use vlc :P
[01:21] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: 1 hd
[01:21] <oskude> mngrif: sorry, never heard...
[01:21] <mngrif> the docs are a bit too thorough though
[01:21] <NET||abuse> mngrif, coool!
[01:21] <wickedpuppy> mumbles, what is it ?
[01:21] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: 1 hd, 4 partition
[01:21] <jfly> does someone already have a problem with utf and ubiquity?
[01:21] <mngrif> NET||abuse: indeed.
[01:21] <mumbles> only one software managament tool is allowed to run at the same time. please close the other application. e.g. aptitude or synaptic first
[01:21] <oskude> !info hostap
[01:21] <ubotu> Package hostap does not exist in any distro I know
[01:21] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY: ok easiest would be to nuke the last logical drive
[01:21] <[Nige] > found it.. mplayer :)
[01:21] <mumbles> thats the errer i get
[01:21] <oskude> !info hostapd
[01:21] <mngrif> !info hostapd
[01:21] <jfly> rambo3, i tried the link you sent to me but it doesnt help
[01:21] <ubotu> hostapd: user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.5.0-1 (dapper), package size 156 kB, installed size 484 kB
[01:21] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY: backup your stuff first though
[01:22] <rambo3> jfly, what link
[01:22] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: ok, and then
[01:22] <oskude> mngrif: and you have Prism2/2.5/3 chip ?
[01:22] <[Nige] > naah i just did the mplayer from command it was there
[01:22] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY: the installer should be able to find the free space in the extended partition
[01:22] <[Nige] > wickedpuppy, i tried vlc the pluggin for mozilla didnt seem  to work as well
[01:22] <jfly> I received that: <ubotu> rambo3 wants you to know: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[01:22] <mngrif> oskude: yep
[01:22] <jfly> so I thought it was from you
[01:22] <NET||abuse> mngrif, that's a nice idea.. i guess you could build your own AP distro based on that.. super light weight typa thingy
[01:23] <mngrif> oskude: and a DS that would love to get online
[01:23] <wickedpuppy> [Nige] , ah k ..
[01:23] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY: you did mention that you had i/o errors though, that might be a prob
[01:23] <oskude> mngrif: did you install that "hostapd" ? (and this maybe usefull too "hostap-utils")
[01:23] <mngrif> not to mention several friends that like to drop by and hijack my wifi :P
[01:23] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: how can i delete the last partiton
[01:23] <rambo3> tell it to ubuntu developers
[01:23] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: how can i delete the last partito
[01:23] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : just select it and right click i think
[01:23] <mngrif> oskude: there's a bit more to it than that, i'll need to bridge the connection to eth0
[01:24] <MaKaTiGuY> ok
[01:24] <oskude> mngrif: sorry, i hate networking ;) isnt there any howtos/docs on the site ?
[01:24] <NET||abuse> mngrif, well once hostap deals with the AP functionality on the wifi card, your tables can deal with the ip routeing
[01:24] <mngrif> oskude: if there was I wouldn't be asking
[01:24] <Viking_> MaKaTiGuY: once its deleted you should be able to boot ubuntu and it will see the free space on the disk , ... just let it partition it and should be all good
[01:24] <NET||abuse> that's wicked
[01:24] <snikker> how can i read a data from ttyS0? i've used minicom but it don't work
[01:25] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : after that reboot with the cd and pray :P
[01:25] <tn3270> hehe
[01:25] <MaKaTiGuY> ok...: )
[01:25] <MaKaTiGuY> ok
[01:25] <MaKaTiGuY> hold on
[01:25] <NET||abuse> anyway,, does anyone know of a teamspeak client in the ubuntu debs?? or do i just have to download the binary from www.goteamspeak.com ???
[01:25] <oskude> mngrif: sorry, the most people here ask first, search then ;)
[01:25] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : not sure this is a driver prob? what h/d is this actually?
[01:25] <mngrif> oskude: i'm well aware... i come from ##freebsd where that kind of activity gets you shot on sight :P
[01:26] <Zaggynl> Hi, I'm attempting to use Tor, and I get no errors whatsoever, but my IP remains the same when I surf to www.whatismyip.com
[01:26] <Zaggynl> I've set it as my proxy in Firefox
[01:26] <tn3270> MaKaTiGuY : ide 160GB?
[01:26] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: imreally not sure
[01:26] <Zaggynl> I started privoxy, but still nothing
[01:26] <MaKaTiGuY> tn3270: yes 160gb
[01:26] <oskude> mngrif: then try to specify your question, im sure someone here knows more about networking...
[01:27] <mngrif> anyone know how to quickly set up hostap? as in a nice series of commands to copy & paste and what needs to be edited
[01:27] <webben> I'm running an Ubuntu server behind a NAT firewall/router. On the server, I have VMWare server including a Windows machine. I'd like to share files between Ubuntu and the Windows VM.
[01:28] <webben> For Network Connection, do I need to use "Bridged:Connected directly to the physical network"
[01:28] <webben> or "NAT:used to share the host's IP address."
[01:28] <Viking_> mngrif: been a while but reading through the doco wasnt difficult
[01:29] <Viking_> webben: depends ... do you want to share the same IP or have individual IPs for the VMs?
[01:29] <NET||abuse> webben, mount the drive through ntfs driver in ubuntu.. no need to use smb/cifs network sharing if it's a vm machine
[01:29] <mngrif> Viking_: got any links laying around? google really isnt being too useful
[01:30] <webben> NET||abuse: It's FAT formatted. Do you know of any instructions of how to do that? Can it be mounted on Ubuntu while the VM is running?
[01:30] <webben> Viking_, whatever's easiest really
[01:31] <Viking_> k ... looking
[01:31] <NET||abuse> webben, hmm, the vm should provide abstracted access to the drive data, and allow the likes of a shared data drive, in fat type formats, locally mounted in each Virtual machine
[01:31] <dragoncham88> After cutting my own Dapper cd I tried upgrade to Dapper.First I had checksum problem, which I corrected. Now when I reboot I lost my X server. It seems that I have some index files out of sync. Has anyon had this problem?
[01:31] <NET||abuse> umm,. s/drive data/drive device/
[01:32] <NET||abuse> webben, i've not much experience with this,, just trying to think what the one virtualised server i've looked at does
[01:32] <mngrif> http://oob.freeshell.org/nzwireless/LWAP-HOWTO.html
[01:32] <mngrif> ah-hah!
[01:32] <NET||abuse> mngrif, yay
[01:32] <tanja_> hello
[01:33] <Viking_> webben: go with bridged then ... you can treat traffic from the machines more independantly ... but I think they are both pretty easy from memory
[01:33] <NET||abuse> Viking_, can he not have the fat drive mounted locallly on both virtual machines?
[01:33] <oskude> mngrif: theres allso the hostap list archive (i assume you searched there too) http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/
[01:34] <Viking_> he can share it via one VM and have it mounted under the other
[01:34] <mngrif> oskude: i'm wading through it
[01:34] <oskude> mngrif: oh that doesnt have search, lol
[01:34] <Viking_> if bridged that is
[01:34] <tanja_> I'd like to use my integrated usb wecam with ubuntu but I don't know how to make it work. Hope that here are some specialists which can help me? For information: I use notebook Asus A6T
[01:34] <NET||abuse> Viking_, but you can't mount the drive in the linux vm as if it was a local drive? no?
[01:35] <oskude> mngrif: but this seems to work http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.shmoo.com%2Fpipermail%2Fhostap+install&btnG=Google+Search
[01:35] <Koptor> Hi all, having some problems with my Ubuntu install, changed motherboards and now it hasnt detected my network interface (its PCI rather than integrated)... I'm no expert with Linux, any ideas anyone?
[01:36] <mngrif> oskude: the thing is, "hostap" is a driver...
[01:36] <newpZ> Koptor, intergrated doesnt mean its not pci
[01:36] <Viking_> no, I think the VM has access to either a file on the system it was started under or a separate partition
[01:36] <oskude> mngrif: that you can load as module ?
[01:37] <dakira> hi.. does anyone know a command to list all installed packages which are NOT in the repositories
[01:37] <mAIJK> Hello, Im trying to install Cedega on my Amd 64 but Cedega is only for i386.. Is it possible to fake this so I can install this appl?
[01:37] <Koptor> newpZ: the old one had onboard ethernet, this one is on a PCI card