[07:27] <slavik> Dazed: it is conceivable, I can even write one very quickly, but some people are simply retarded and don't know their ass from their head after having used a computer for 13 years
[07:27] <Dr_Willi1> Dazed:  linux is a much harsher enviroment for viruii  - is the main reason. :)
[07:28] <ilovelinux33467> does anyone know how to change resolution of login window in ubuntu 8.04?
[07:28] <devo> i don't know that much about linux, that's why i'm try'n to learn more about it so i know how to use it & so i don't have to keep ask'n other ppl for help when i'm in a jam with use'n linux
[07:28] <RootRat> Okay I pasted my problem May some one have a look and advise me thank you http://paste.ubuntu.com/37909/
[07:28] <slavik> Dr_Willi1: no, it's much harder to gain administrative access without asking the user for it ...
[07:28] <slavik> devo: so far, you have learned nothing
[07:28] <freddy_> DarkMage2303: i dont have all night bro...whats your problem with the hd?
[07:28] <bbq^> slavik, downloading it now for ubuntu thanks for the link, just can't stand some of those IDE's
[07:28] <zcat[1]> Dazed: It's not inconcevable, it's just fairly unlikely ... windows has always had this thing where documents and executables get opened and/or run basically the same way, and pratically every document format has the option of putting bits of executable code in it. Linux nevr had either..
[07:28] <slavik> devo: it's called common sense, use it!
[07:28] <Dr_Willi1> slavik:  thats ONE thing that makes the linux os harsher for viruii to exist.
[07:28] <DarkMage2303> I get a unable to mount error
[07:29] <devo> so should i uninstall wine then??? cuz it came with ultimate edition which is what i'm use'n rite now
[07:29] <DarkMage2303> and I've tried a few guides on how-to fix it
[07:29] <freddy_> show me
[07:29] <slavik> Dr_Willi1: there was a piece of code that would exploit something to get root access and it was not that long ago
[07:29] <freddy_> ntfs?
[07:29] <DarkMage2303> yeah it is NTFS
[07:29] <Dazed> Im the only one who uses this comp, how can i have permanent root priveledges
[07:29] <devo> i have learned enough rite now, i have used linux for the past few week's & still learning thank u very much
[07:29] <Dazed> this UAC crap is annyoing
[07:29] <Dr_Willi1> slavik:  and where is it now... theres always somthing poping up.. then getting fixed.  I havent seen any recently.
[07:29] <DarkMage2303> I've tried the guide here, http://www.linuxconfig.org/Howto_mount_USB_drive_in_Linux
[07:30] <zcat[1]> Dazed: you can't. Please don't ask again
[07:30] <pageold> hello
[07:30] <Vooloo> can I create a snapshot of my ubuntu installation so I dont have to re-configure everything when I re-install?
[07:30] <pageold> got question here
[07:30] <slavik> Dr_Willi1: the point is that it is doable (although as you said, much more difficult)
[07:30] <Dazed> Why do you say that? That's the first time I asked.
[07:30] <Dr_Willi1> DarkMage2303:  so you make a directiroy with 'sudo mkdir /media/USBDRIVE' and try 'sudo mount /dev/DEVICENAME /media/USBDRIVE' or similer commands?
[07:30] <slavik> Vooloo: look into LaRoza's recovery program or w/e
[07:30] <Dazed> Like im spamming or something
[07:30] <freddy_> DarkMage2303: i like this kind of problems, cause it is real unsual to have a problem like this in ubuntu
[07:30] <pageold> why i cant retrieve list of partition when execute this command 'fdisk -l"
[07:30] <jason_> DarkMage2303:  have you read dmesg to see if it give you any clues as to why?
[07:30] <KoolD> how to change the default applications??like changing mplayer to default instead of totem...
[07:31] <zcat[1]> Dazed: once you have stuff set up and are just doing 'normal user stuff' you will never need root access and won't be bothered about it...
[07:31] <RootRat> slavik,  any chance you having a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/37909/ and letting me know what I am doing wrong ?
[07:31] <Dr_Willi1> KoolD:  you can right click on a video file, and use its properties to change the default player I recall.
[07:31] <freddy_> when you have some sort of problem like this one, try to go to google and point all your search to ubuntu speciafically...and not to "linux"
[07:31] <devo> i know the first thing that u have to type in the terminal before u can install anything is sudo apt install then the appication's name
[07:31] <FAJALOU> koolD:  System>Prefrences>Preffered Applications
[07:31] <DarkMage2303> The error message is: Unable to mount drive
[07:31] <slavik> RootRat: did you type that up by hand?
[07:31] <freddy_> nice
[07:31] <FAJALOU> DarkMage2303:  you coud force mount it...
[07:31] <RootRat> No just copy and paste
[07:32] <freddy_> can you paste fdisk -l?
[07:32] <slavik> apt-get
[07:32] <zcat[1]> devo: add/remove or synaptic are much friendlier. YOu don't have to use the terminal and apt-get if you don't want to
[07:32] <devo> ok so i forgot a small part
[07:32] <slavik> RootRat: I meant in the cups config file, did you type it up?
[07:32] <KoolD> Dr_Willi1: thanks
[07:32] <DarkMage2303> Would the force mount make it work all the time or would I have to repeatly force mount it?
[07:32] <TheDude> Hi all, I'm having a problem with ubuntu (8.04 AMD64): after I log in the only thing that loads is a blank blue screen, no toolbars, no desktop icons and only 2 of my workspaces are active. The "good" news is that I can start a terminal window and execute commands, I have internet and I can access firefox, etc. Does anybody know how to get my desktop back?
[07:32] <DarkMage2303> ever time I restarted my computer, or something like that
[07:32] <devo> yeah i kinda did find that out the hard way, but thnx for tell'n it to me again  ;-)
[07:33] <FAJALOU> DarkMage2303:  just once, and if it doesn't work you could add it as a script to startup commands
[07:33] <slavik> TheDude: go into a gnome channel, ask them which folders to delete to reset your config ...
[07:33] <RootRat> slavik,  I am brand new toUbuntu What is a Cups and what should I do (sorry )
[07:33] <TheDude> slavik: thanks :)
[07:33] <slavik> RootRat: how did you add that printer to your system?
[07:33] <dabbu> cheese is not working ..it doesn't starts
[07:33] <RootRat> slavik,  it detected it by its self
[07:33] <slavik> TheDude: it's like .gconf and .gnome2 or something, I am not sure
[07:33] <Dr_Willi1> dabbu:  run it from a terminal, look for error messages.
[07:33] <ja> Could anyone recommend a media player for Xfce that doesn't pull tons of KDE/Gnome dependencies and has MTP support?
[07:33] <rgnr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37901/
[07:33] <DarkMage2303> How do I force mount it?
[07:33] <TheDude> slavik: roger that
[07:34] <devo> so how can i make linux more sicure than it already is?
[07:34] <slavik> RootRat: ok, and what happens when you try to print something?
[07:34] <Dr_Willi1> ja:  vlc and mplayer are the 2 main video players i use.
[07:34] <slavik> devo: SELinux
[07:34] <zcat[1]> devo: easy. Install openbsd instead ;)
[07:34] <DarkMage2303> devo: never go onto the internet :) - the science of prevention
[07:34] <slavik> or that
[07:34] <FAJALOU> DarkMage2303:  PM?
[07:34] <slavik> devo: stop using a computer ... btw, what was your major in college?
[07:34] <DarkMage2303> kk
[07:34] <devo> really? just use selinux???
[07:34] <RootRat> I get this message slavik  ...There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'.
[07:34] <ja> Dr_Willil: Music player.
[07:35] <zcat[1]> devo: how secure do you need it to be?!!
[07:35] <ServBOT> hello can i know wats the command to run php in ubuntu
[07:35] <slavik> RootRat: search google for your printer coupled with the word "linux"
[07:35] <devo> i'm 25 & don't go to collage, don't have the $$$ for it
[07:35] <slavik> ServBOT: did you search google?
[07:35] <freddy_> DarkMage2303: man mount
[07:35] <danhs> zcat[1]: hey!  I figured out how to remote connect using X server forwarding
[07:35] <RootRat> Okay slavik  ....BRB
[07:35] <ServBOT> slavik: yes i did google but cant seem to find any
[07:35] <freddy_> the flag should be -f
[07:36] <freddy_> or something like that
[07:36] <zcat[1]> danhs: awesome!
[07:36] <danhs> yep
[07:36] <devo> enough so that i can download movies, music & stuff without have'n someone try'n to hack into my computer
[07:36] <danhs> pretty nice
[07:36] <danhs> ssh -X
[07:36] <zcat[1]> danhs: now tell me.. I don't know how ;)
[07:36] <slavik> ServBOT: because there is a way and the package is php-cli or something of the sort
[07:36] <danhs> then gdmflexiserver --xnest
[07:36] <slavik> danhs: -X -C
[07:36] <zcat[1]> devo: you're already there
[07:36] <danhs> it's a little bit slow....but it does work
[07:36] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  i do that all the time.. and i have no security 'issues' :) compared to doing simile rthings in windows.
[07:36] <danhs> -X -C?
[07:37] <slavik> yes, you want compression
[07:37] <danhs> gdmflexiserver opens up a new xserver session
[07:37] <nomad111> hey all can someone recommend a paint program that is simpler and more convenient (for small tasks) than gimp
[07:37] <pageold> is there any command to show the partition details instead of $ sudo fdisk -l ?
[07:37] <nomad111> something like ms paint but a bit bitter
[07:37] <slavik> -C tells ssh to compress stuff :), very nice when you want to send images over the net
[07:37] <devo> window's sux & linux rules!!! that's what i say any one else wanna say someth'n different then be my guest?
[07:37] <danhs> zcat[1]: xnest opens the new xserver session up in a new window (or xephyr, but that seems more complex)
[07:38] <zcat[1]> !advocacy
[07:38] <zcat[1]> hmmm... need a link in there
[07:38] <pageold> is there any command to show the partition details instead of $ sudo fdisk -l ?
[07:39] <devo> well, what's better window's or linux???
[07:39] <devo> i say linux all the way!!!
[07:39] <devo> :-D
[07:39] <geek_> pageold: df ?
[07:39] <smick002> If you want to use flash author tools, then windows.
[07:39] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  they are tools.. and it depends on the job you are doing.
[07:40] <smick002> If you want to edit video, windows.
[07:40] <geek_> devo: depends on what you run, what you run it on, and what you're comfortable with
[07:40] <devo> what about putt'n a movie to a disk?
[07:40] <Dr_Willi1> pageold:  gparted could show them.. but if they are not seen with 'sudo fdisk -l' then theres a problem.
[07:40] <Fredd> im looking for a app to change to the text type like for example "C source code (text/x-csrc)" for certian text files
[07:40] <danhs> zcat[1]: I'd like to figure out how to do this a little better.....make create a new xwindows session or something and then remote connect that over ssh....
[07:40] <danhs> it's kind of interesting though
[07:41] <pageold> ok thnx guys
[07:41] <devo> i know that with window's there r too many damn virir's with linux there is no room for error unless the person @ the controls does the error'n
[07:41] <devo> am i rite?
[07:42] <Dabbu_G> cheese is not working in ubuntu..any help
[07:42] <devo> or am i wrong?
[07:42] <slavik> devo: on linux, if you don't know what you are doing, it won't be any more secure than Windows
[07:42] <Dabbu_G> it was working but not now
[07:42] <smick002> is the adept updater buggy in kde 4.0?
[07:42] <MaverricK> pretty much, as a techie, i always say there's an issue between the keyboard and the chair.
[07:42] <devo> true
[07:42] <pageold> did df only shoe the mounted volume only?
[07:42] <slavik> MaverricK: not issue, error
[07:42] <pageold> show*
[07:43] <MaverricK> yah..
[07:43] <MaverricK> i make it more politically correct but you're right..
[07:43] <devo> so how can i put up a firewall in linux & know how to run it so that surrton port's can't be open & other's can?
[07:43] <pageold> geek_, sudo df only show mounted volume only?
[07:43] <MaverricK> now i have a ?, ubuntu installed with Gnome, I forget the apt get command to get KDE
[07:43] <slavik> MaverricK: or ID 10T errors
[07:43] <Dr_Willi1> !ufw | devo
[07:43] <slavik> kubuntu-desktop
[07:43] <Dr_Willi1> Heh.. hmm...
[07:44] <FAJALOU> slavik teheh ID10T errors gotta love em
[07:44] <geek_> pageold: yeah
[07:44] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  the ufw  command can do basic firewalling tasks.. or there sother frontends.
[07:44] <Dr_Willi1> !firewall | devo
[07:44] <geek_> pageold: what specifically do you wanna see?
[07:44] <smick002> can somebody tell me how to update to kde 41 with terminal. I can't find the command in a search.
[07:45] <pageold> ok geek_ , im about to do auto mount for windoz partition, but i need to do mount point, in order to do that i need to know specificly the details of partition eg size, name of partition, format n etc
[07:45] <debCarlos> smick002, sudo aptitude upgrade
[07:45] <Dr_Willi1> smick002:  you need to enable the proper repositoriues. and  then update/upgrade - the kde4 channel hsa info on it.
[07:45] <Dr_Willi1> !kde4
[07:45] <Fredd> how could i change a certian file types text type for example c files have "C source code (text/x-csrc)" and i want to change that of a certian file type.
[07:45] <pageold> $ sudo fdisk -l only show the format of parititon i think, but i cant identify which partition i should point to
[07:46] <smick002> DrWilli1: thanks, I'll check there.
[07:46] <devo> ok fine, how can i install a really good anti virus program for linux then?
[07:46] <rgnr> ppl help checkinstall doesn't see pidgin icons
[07:46] <rgnr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/37901/
[07:46] <Mitesh> slavik: i have done apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, what do i do now?
[07:46] <Dr_Willi1> pageold:  thats when you need to look at the sizes and filesystem types , and perhaps mount one or 2 and see what ones are what.
[07:46] <zcat[1]_> devo: avscan and clamav (clamav is an awesone scanner, avscan is a nice gui frontned for it)
[07:46] <RootRat> slavik,  Thank you very much for your help ......... printer now working A OK
[07:46] <slavik> Mitesh: that should've given you gstreamer back
[07:47] <devo> kool, thnx
[07:47] <slavik> RootRat: google was made by smart people
[07:47] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  there really are none that need to be installed to protect linux. The ones that exist. are normally for scanning for windows viruses. (which is handy for repair tools)
[07:47] <sluimers> Hi, I'm trying to autoload my wireless network driver. I've followed the instructions but it's not working. instructions: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/37913/ . Can someone help me with this?
[07:47] <devo> now what about a really good firewall?
[07:47] <debCarlos> Hey all, i tried to cp a cd with brasero, it failed.... then i thinked that dd maybe would do it and launched dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/home/carlos/gta.iso  . ... it didn't work, just copied about 150MB and they are kinda nonsensical... why?
[07:47] <zcat[1]_> devo: firestarter
[07:47] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  read the bots !firewall factoid and learn about them. :) i dont bother with a firewall either.
[07:47] <Mitesh> slavik: what do i do the?
[07:47] <slavik> you need kubuntu-desktop
[07:48] <Zhane> hey i installed ubuntu with wubi.. i managed to login.. but the tasks bar dont come out and it seems to hang then
[07:48] <devo> ok srry
[07:48] <zcat[1]_> devo: btw just for the record I have no firewall and only use clamav to make sure I'm not passing virus-infected files to friends that use windows.
[07:48] <devo> i don't wanna piss anyone off & srry if i am
[07:48] <devo> :-(
[07:48] <Dr_Willi1>  debCarlos  check dmesg output - it may be the thing couldent read the disk. also some games can have nasty copy protection that can make reading the disks hard.
[07:49] <devo> kool
[07:49] <Mitesh> slavik: what do i do then?
[07:50] <smick002> is there a way to show running processes and kill them.  It keeps saying adept is already running... arghh
[07:50] <debCarlos> Dr_Willi1, damn'it, it must be the game.... i'll try with dmesg... but dd should have worked ?
[07:50] <slavik> Mitesh: that will isntall KDE, if you want to use it, select it in the session menu at the login screen
[07:50] <Mitesh> slavik: i dont want KDE
[07:50] <slavik> Mitesh: err
[07:50] <Dr_Willi1> debCarlos:  i have copied disks befor with dd. if you give it a blocksize artument of 2 to 4K it can cut the copying   time  in half in many cases
[07:50] <Mitesh> slavik: i want only the sound to come
[07:51] <slavik> oh ...
[07:51] <slavik> who wanted kde?
[07:51] <devo> what's better kde or gnome?
[07:51] <Mitesh> slavik: eh
[07:51] <devo> i think kde
[07:51] <devo> but that's just me
[07:51] <zcat[1]_> devo: vanilla or chocolate?
[07:51] <MeVsTheVoices> Just updated and now my flash is broken, again, watch a few flash and after a bit I refuses to load them
[07:51] <debCarlos> Dr_Willi1, Can you give me an example? I mean, i'm not too familiar with dd...
[07:51] <Mitesh> slavik: ok what do i have to do to get my sound back?
[07:52] <slavik> set it to use alsa
[07:52] <Dr_Willi1> debCarlos:  dd bs=4k  or some similer option. its proberly shown in dd examples all over the web. :)
[07:52] <devo> vanilla on someday's & chocolate on other day's what about u?
[07:52] <geek_> devo: IMO try both. try a few other too. use what you like best ;p
[07:52] <zcat[1]_> devo: in ubuntu, 'gnome' is the main desktop and kde is kinda an afterthought. I find gnome more polished and cohesive..
[07:52] <zcat[1]_> but I know many people who prefer kde
[07:52] <Zhane> hey i installed ubuntu with wubi.. i managed to login.. but the tasks bar dont come out and it seems to hang then... what should i do?
[07:52] <devo> LOL
[07:53] <devo> it's kool
[07:53] <debCarlos> Dr_Willi1, Ok, but what format should i assign to the copied file? I mean, the of= part///
[07:53] <Dr_Willi1> debCarlos:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[07:53] <Intial_M> any ideas guys how to setup remote desktop
[07:53] <Dr_Willi1> debCarlos:  of=filename.iso
[07:54] <slavik> devo: you install firestarter yet?
[07:54] <baggins> hi. so i'm just running update from 7.10 to 8.04 and i left it overnight, it was generating en_AU locale last night, and now, 10 hours later, it's still doing it. the localedef isn't responding to SIGTERM or even SIGKILL :(
[07:54] <zcat[1]_> Intial_M: danhs might be able to elp ;)
[07:54] <debCarlos> Dr_Willi1, Ok, thanks :D
[07:54] <slavik> btw, as a note, by default, Ubuntu does not enable the firewall
[07:54] <devo> i didn't need to it was already installed when i installed ubuntu aka ultimate edition
[07:54] <devo> what i have rite now
[07:54] <slavik> baggins: search google, that's how I solved it :)
[07:55] <zcat[1]_> devo: you still ned to run and configure it though, I believe..
[07:55] <zcat[1]_> *need
[07:55] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  you proberly dont  need to use ubuntu 'ultimate' edition at all either...
[07:55] <devo> that's true
[07:55] <slavik> devo: did you know that you also have apache and mysql setup, and you happen to have phpmyadmin installed as well
[07:55] <baggins> i would, but firefox isn't working on account of being halfway through and update
[07:55] <baggins> s/and/an/
[07:55] <slavik> and speaking of which your MySQL setup isn't secure
[07:55] <devo> what???
[07:55] <baggins> oh killing locale-gen helped.
[07:56] <zcat[1]_> devo: hmmm.. actually yes.. 'ultimate' is probably less secure than the official distro because you have lots of server stuff which is potentially a security risk
[07:56] <baggins> lots of errors, but at least it's moving.
[07:56] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  in fact using the 'ultimate' edition could make the system more INsecure. :)  sice it may install services you dont need.
[07:56] <slavik> that and "ls /var/lib/mysql/" will produce a nice output.
[07:56] <allup> can i some hoe remove all off my screen savers?
[07:56] <allup> how*
[07:56] <slavik> so, what's the point of the ultimate edition again?
[07:56] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  dare we ask why? :) you could fire up the psckage manager. look for screensaver. and remove the packages i guess...
[07:56] <Dr_Willi1> slavik:  ive often wondered that myself.
[07:57] <devo> so how can i take off all the other services that i don't need?
[07:57] <Dr_Willi1> slavik:  if you want lots of stuff installed by default I guess...
[07:57] <slavik> devo, run that command
[07:57] <slavik> and read the output carefully
[07:57] <zcat[1]_> 'ultimate' in not an official distro btw.. before you rag on about ubuntu not being secure.. if someone goes ahead and makes their own 'ubuntu pwn-me edition' there's not much we can do about that
[07:57] <danhs> Intial_M: zcat[1] mentioned me....
[07:57] <slavik> zcat[1]: ultimate should be renamed into that ...
[07:57] <danhs> I was just playing with remote x over ssh
[07:58] <Dr_Willi1> zcat[1]_:  at least they dident pick a ego inflating name. :)
[07:58] <zcat[1]_> danhs: we learn, then we teach ;)
[07:58] <danhs> zcat[1]_: haha, indeed
[07:58] <danhs> I still don't like vnc tho....
[07:58] <Dr_Willi1> Pwnd Parakeet.
[07:58] <devo> i ran the command in the terminal & this is what i got
[07:58] <devo> debian-5.0.flag    ibdata1      ib_logfile1  mysql_upgrade_info
[07:58] <devo> devo_got_fingered  ib_logfile0  mysql
[07:58] <allupp> i ask agen my guestion bechause pidgin  shut down by it self any idea why? so can i remove some how all off my screensavers
[07:59] <slavik> lol
[07:59] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  dare we ask why? :) you could fire up the psckage manager. look for screensaver. and remove the packages i guess...
[07:59] <devo> y is that funny?>
[07:59] <danhs> but gdmflexiserver with xnest over lan is pretty nice....
[07:59] <danhs> zcat[1]_: still looking for similar setup that works well over public internet
[07:59] <danhs> cause xnest is a bit slow.....
[07:59] <allupp> moust off screensaver aren't workins so well as they should
[07:59] <Intial_M> sir danhs
[08:00] <Intial_M> hi just want to ask if you have tutorials on how to start remote deskto
[08:00] <Intial_M> remote desktop
[08:00] <slavik> devo, try that command again
[08:00] <danhs> Intial_M: I wish.....google search for gdmflexiserver and xnest
[08:00] <danhs> and then it's just ssh -X
[08:00] <danhs> that's what I was just playing with....
[08:00] <slavik> danhs: you forgot -C
[08:00] <danhs> slavik: -C ?
[08:01] <slavik> yes, compression
[08:01] <zcat[1]_> compressed.. faster
[08:01] <Intial_M> ok tnx dahns
[08:01] <danhs> ahhhh
[08:01] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  it would be best to just set your screensaver to a simple 'blank screen' then . Or fire up the package manager, search and remove any you dont like.
[08:01] <xgfhsdgfhsd> where do I rat out a translator that is making false translations?
[08:01] <zcat[1]_> xgfhsdgfhsd: engligh to sweedish phrasebook?
[08:01] <devo> ok & this is what i got devo@devo-desktop:~$ ls /var/lib/mysql
[08:01] <devo> debian-5.0.flag    devo_has_been_hacked  ib_logfile0  mysql
[08:01] <devo> devo_got_fingered  ibdata1               ib_logfile1  mysql_upgrade_info
[08:01] <danhs> slavik: yea, if there's a better way to transport x session than using gdmflexiserver --xnest I'm very very interested
[08:02] <danhs> vnc is just so ghetto, and nx is crap
[08:02] <slavik> devo: next time, use pastebin
[08:02] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  golly.. looks like Ubuntu Ultimate edition. is somthing you really DONT want to be using.
[08:02] <Mitesh> slavik: how to set it to use alsa?
[08:02] <zcat[1]_> Dr_Willi1: worse than the pwn-me edition?!
[08:02] <devo> what's pastebin???
[08:02] <danhs> well, nx is really proprietary....nomachine's code works well, but, the open source....
[08:02] <slavik> in the mutimedia system preferences or w/e it is
[08:02] <danhs> devo google nopaste
[08:02] <slavik> !paste
[08:02] <slavik> devo is a bad reader
[08:02] <Intial_M> dahns
[08:02] <xgfhsdgfhsd> no, in English Canadian, he translates to French, and also saying things like: Press Button to Begin ---> I AM SO GOOD WITH COMPUTERS
[08:03] <devo> yeah i know i think i'm gonna install ubuntu 7.10 instead if that's the case
[08:03] <slavik> or 8.04
[08:03] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  given that 8.4 is the latest.. why use the older?
[08:03] <Intial_M> what about remote desktop, coz my brother is out of the country
[08:03] <slavik> Dr_Willi1: 8.04 :)
[08:03] <Intial_M> is it possible to used the remote desktop
[08:03] <danhs> Intial_M: we were just talking about remote desktop :)
[08:03] <zcat[1]_> xgfhsdgfhsd: rather pythonesque..
[08:03] <Intial_M> i cant understand
[08:03] <rgnr> who will help me compile pidgin?
[08:03] <Dr_Willi1> slavik:  i want 8.90210   the Hollywood edition!
[08:04] <allup> dr_willi1: problem is that this coputer runs xubuntu  damm slow so i thought that i i remove  something i don't need at all it would be even litle faster
[08:04] <slavik> lol
[08:04] <Intial_M> the server thing
[08:04] <Mitesh> slavik: is ti System>Preferences>Sound ?
[08:04] <slavik> should be
[08:04] <devo> i can't get ubuntu 8.4 to work on my computer so i will install 7.10 instead srry
[08:04] <allup> *if
[08:04] <danhs> Intial_M: the way I was just playing with is like this: setup a ssh connection to your remote machine with -X and -C arguments
[08:04] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  i doubt if that will help. and wont really save much disk space.. but do what you want.
[08:04] <danhs> then run (in your remote terminal) gdmflexiserver --xnest
[08:04] <zephyraltimus> what channel is the offtopic?
[08:04] <zcat[1]_> devo: just stick with the official 8.04 install, I think.
[08:04] <Intial_M> ok
[08:04] <danhs> not sure that that's the best way, but I
[08:04] <slavik> ok, this is crap, devo, if you won't even read what you paste, you need to stop using a computer ...
[08:04] <danhs> I'm not digging vnc or nx
[08:04] <Intial_M> but i dont know how to start
[08:04] <Intial_M> im so sorry
[08:05] <devo> my computer was made for windows2000 & has very old part's in it
[08:05] <zcat[1]_> rather than running "Ubuntu Craptacular Edition"
[08:05] <allup> dr_willi can you help me whit my problem whit cpu root is using allmost all the time 59% off cpu usage
[08:05] <danhs> Intial_M: what do you mean?
[08:05] <danhs> Intial_M: have you ever used ssh?
[08:05] <devo> ok i'll get ubuntu 8.4 but here can i get it though that is a secure place to get?
[08:05] <slavik> Dr_Willi1: is it me or is devo thick?
[08:05] <Dr_Willi1> allup:   fire up htop. or top and see what tasks are using the cpu i guess.. is the place to start.
[08:06] <Intial_M> no im not
[08:06] <danhs> devo: what's wrong with ubuntu.com?
[08:06] <danhs> hahaha
[08:06] <zcat[1]_> devo: You might try "ubuntu.com"
[08:06] <allup> i know alredy root using command xorg
[08:06] <devo> hey
[08:06] <debCarlos> dd is great! It can do everything lol
[08:06] <Dr_Willi1> slavik:   i often tell my friends i am teaching linux to  to 'less chat, more read' :) and toss another linux book at them.
[08:06] <danhs> Intial_M: open up a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install ssh
[08:06] <Dr_Willi1> debCarlos:  :) yep. its sort of amazing what it can do
[08:06] <Intial_M> is it ok
[08:06] <Intial_M> im just afraid to do so
[08:06] <Intial_M> hehehe
[08:06] <slavik> Dr_Willi1: I was sure he would shit his pants after reader his last pasted output :(
[08:07] <danhs> Intial_M: well, get over it and let's move on
[08:07] <devo> ok so i may be alittle slow with it tonight srry about that but i have been up since 5a.m. give me a break
[08:07] <allup> dr_williw1:yep its root using command xorg
[08:07] <Intial_M> but how can i uninstall it in case
[08:07] <Dr_Willi1> its 3 am here. :)
[08:07] <zephyraltimus> ubuntu is the distro of the future, check it... listen to Madball and old school Biohazard, I'm out... goodnight all
[08:07] <Sa[i]nT> Can Someone help me? dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[08:07] <devo> HEY I DON'T LIKE THAT SLAVIK OF WHAT UR SAY'N ABOUT ME!!!
[08:07] <danhs> just go into synaptic and right click remove if you want to remove it
[08:08] <Intial_M> s0 i'll just install it then on synaptic
[08:08] <debCarlos> Dr_Willi1, And i didn't know that dd means Data Destroyer.
[08:08] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  if you have a very low end machine. that xfce even bogs it down. You may want to use some uber-light  window manager and file manager  like 'jwm' and 'rox'
[08:08] <Intial_M> btw what does it for?
[08:08] <zcat[1]_> devo: start the downlaod and go to bed. come back when you're awake!
[08:08] <slavik> devo: like Dr_Willi1 said, more reading, less chatting ... if you don't read the output of the commands you run, I just wasted 15 minutes of my time. :(
[08:08] <slavik> yes, that's good advice
[08:08] <danhs> Intial_M: whatever makes you happy.  I was just giving you the command line so that you didn't have to go through synaptic and point adn click and waste your time
[08:08] <allup> and where i can get thouse?
[08:08] <devo> i can use all the help i can get
[08:08] <Intial_M> ok i understand but what is ssh for?
[08:08] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  they are in the normal repositories.
[08:08] <zcat[1]_> devo: WE NOTICED ;)
[08:09] <Intial_M> sorry for asking too much
[08:09] <danhs> Intial_M: ssh is for "secure shell" it connects you to a remote computer over a secure, encrypted connection
[08:09] <devo> LOL
[08:09] <danhs> !ssh
[08:09] <slavik> zcat[1]_: did you notice anything else?
[08:09] <Intial_M> ok
[08:09] <allup> iam not very smart whit computer or its terms so could you sost paste link or something?
[08:10] <slavik> allup: http://google.com
[08:10] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  the normal package manager/add/remove tools have the programs in there.
[08:10] <devo> so what does this mean then??? devo@devo-desktop:~$ ls /var/lib/mysql
[08:10] <danhs> devo: means your computer is trying to attack you
[08:10] <Detrix> I can not get Ubuntu(64bit) to recognize either my dialup modem or the wifi. I am on here through windows.
[08:10] <slavik> ls = LiSt
[08:10] <danhs> !ls
[08:10] <slavik> but you want to read the output of that command, it is more fun
[08:10] <slavik> and scary at the same time
[08:10] <devo> srry what does this mean???
[08:10] <devo> debian-5.0.flag    devo_has_been_hacked  ib_logfile0  mysql
[08:10] <devo> devo_got_fingered  ibdata1
[08:10] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  i think its really really a good time to go find a few beginner bash tutorials  like the ones the bot just posted.
[08:10] <debCarlos> Detrix, Hi :). Have you tried wvdial ?
[08:11] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  its a listing of the files in that directory.
[08:11] <zcat[1]_> rofl... you're kidding.
[08:11] <slavik> 2 of them are supposed to be messages
[08:11] <slavik> I give up, I cannot make this more obvious than it already is
[08:11] <devo> so in other word's i've been hacked???
[08:11] <danhs> slavik: hahaha
[08:11] <danhs> hahahahah
[08:11] <Detrix> debCarlos: yes but I do not think the system knows there is a modem...
[08:11] <slavik> finally!!!!!
[08:11] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  and it does apear that  your ubuntu ultimate edition - has some SERIOUS security holes in the mysql area.
[08:12] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  so i would suggest using a normal ubuntu  install.
[08:12] <debCarlos> Detrix, why you think that ?
[08:12] <danhs> This is pretty funny stuff....hmmmm could this make it to bash.org?  funny enough....hehe
[08:12] <slavik> devo, why did you decide to use the ultimate edition?
[08:12] <devo> ok i'll come back on when i do have ubuntu 8.4 which i know is ahell of alot more secure than what i'm use'n rite now
[08:12] <slavik> good
[08:12] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  read some bash tutorials while the  iso downloads also.
[08:13] <slavik> also isntall firestarter and run through the wizard
[08:13] <Detrix> debCarlos: I tried modemScan and it suggests that I may need a 32bit driver!!!
[08:13] <danhs> devo: just pickup a weekend guide to unix or linux or something
[08:13] <devo> cuz it had everything i wanted & didn't have to download anyth'n cuz they were just installed automaticly
[08:13] <debCarlos> Detrix, oh... don't know what to say ^^
[08:13] <slavik> and run the following command "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" (don't forget to enter your password)
[08:13] <Ziroday> slavik: ubuntu 8.04 uses ufw, its much easier tha devo uses that instead of iptables
[08:13] <mio> how can i find out if my wireless network device is working?
[08:13] <danhs> Intial_M: did you get your stuff working?
[08:13] <devo> what did u say???
[08:13] <devo> lol
[08:13] <Detrix> when I run modemScan it seems to hang.
[08:13] <slavik> Ziroday: I use firestarter ... so it doesn't matter
[08:14] <Ziroday> mio: when you can connect to the internet with it
[08:14] <danhs> Detrix: you're using a modem for non-fax purposes?
[08:14] <slavik> I've also used ipfw which is easier ...
[08:14] <allup> dr_willi1: i didn't find enything about rox or jwm with xfc4 appfinder
[08:14] <Detrix> yes
[08:14] <danhs> Detrix: I don't think I've used a modem in about 10 years....
[08:14] <Cobi> Is it possible to theme gnome-screensaver's lock screen, just like it is possible to theme GDM's login screen?
[08:14] <danhs> that'
[08:14] <slavik> danhs: you remember what a modem is?
[08:14] <danhs> hahaha
[08:14] <slavik> Cobi: no
[08:14] <Intial_M> after installing ssh what next dahns
[08:14] <debCarlos> rofl
[08:15] <Cobi> Are there any alternatives which are themable?
[08:15] <danhs> Intial_M: ssh into the remote machine
[08:15] <zzl> have a question. why isn't the ubuntu company accepting my disk requests????
[08:15] <danhs> ssh -X -C <remote_machine_ip_address>
[08:15] <mio> Ziroday: i'm looking for the command in terminal which will list the devices currently working ?
[08:15] <Intial_M> how to do that?
[08:15] <debCarlos> Actually when power goes out, i use my cellphone as modem :)
[08:15] <Intial_M> pl
[08:15] <Detrix> I am not liking the dialup  much either....I cant even get Ubuntu to recognize the wifi.
[08:15] <Ziroday> mio: try ifconfig -a
[08:15] <slavik> devo: you didn't run the command I told you to
[08:15] <Intial_M> so do the other pc needs to setup ssh also
[08:15] <danhs> Intial_M: yes
[08:15] <Ziroday> mio: but that will just tell you all the devices, not if they are working, pastebin that output and I will tell you
[08:15] <Intial_M> ok
[08:16] <Intial_M> so after?
[08:16] <Intial_M> what next?
[08:16] <devo> what was the command???
[08:16] <mio> Ziroday: its on another system i am running here
[08:16] <danhs> Intial_M: also, you have to open up *port 22* on your remote machine
[08:16] <danhs> Intial_M: could be another one, but 22 is the default
[08:16] <Intial_M> ok
[08:16] <mio> Ziroday: only shows Link ecap:Local Loopback
[08:17] <zcat[1]_> danhs: bt only if you enabled the firewall first.. by default it's open already ;)
[08:17] <Ziroday> mio: none of those are your wirelesss
[08:17] <danhs> errr I mean on your remote router....so you need to forward any incoming traffic on port 22 to the remote machine you're trying to access
[08:17] <devo> slavik: what was the command that u wanted me to run???
[08:17] <Detrix> So how do I switch to the 32bit version of Ubuntu???
[08:17] <slavik> it stops the mysql service
[08:17] <zcat[1]_> danhs: ahh yes... pinholing, sorry.
[08:17] <Ziroday> Detrix: download and install the 32bit version
[08:17] <Intial_M> any ideas how to change clock im using on conky
[08:17]  * danhs nods to zcat[1]_
[08:17] <devo> but what's the command line though???
[08:18] <debCarlos> Detrix, I think you have to download the 32 bit version/.
[08:18] <Intial_M> coz its on 24 hr clock format
[08:18] <debCarlos> /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[08:18] <Sa[i]nT> dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory Help?
[08:18] <danhs> Intial_M: prolly just right click it and change format or something silly
[08:18] <Intial_M> no its on conky
[08:18] <Intial_M> not the system clock
[08:18] <danhs> Intial_M: what's conky?
[08:18] <Intial_M> hehehe
[08:18] <Detrix> will that overwrite the 64bit version?
[08:18] <slavik> devo: scroll up
[08:19] <R0b0t1> I need the command for a forkbomb
[08:19] <zcat[1]_> devo: seriosuly it would be easier to just reinstall the standard install instead of what you have which appears to be ubuntu bent over with it's pants around it's ankles...
[08:19] <R0b0t1> ;)
[08:19] <slavik> this is what I have to deal with at work ...
[08:19] <Ziroday> Detrix: after the reinstall it will override *everythin*
[08:19] <Intial_M> is a free software system monitor for the X Window System
[08:19] <danhs> zcat[1]_: hahahha great visual!
[08:19] <R0b0t1> I need the command for a forkbomb
[08:19] <danhs> hahaha
[08:19] <R0b0t1> ;)
[08:19] <slavik> zcat[1]_: and an insecure default MySQL setup
[08:19] <zcat[1]_> slavik: iceberg...
[08:19] <slavik> ?
[08:19] <zcat[1]_> tip thereof?
[08:20] <slavik> oh, yeah
[08:20] <slavik> the firewall is not enabled
[08:20] <Detrix> well I guess I will try installing the 32bit.
[08:20] <slavik> rpcbind is also listening on the network
[08:20] <Dr_Willi1> !find jwm
[08:20] <owen1> does anyone know of a slideshow + audio app? (similar to iphoto)
[08:20] <Dr_Willi1> !info jwm
[08:20] <Intial_M> dahns
[08:20] <danhs> Yea I think in general going from 64 bit to 32 bit is insane
[08:21] <Intial_M> is it ok if i will test remote
[08:21] <slavik> there is no hardware firewall or any of that stuff (if there is, the system is in DMZ)
[08:21] <devo> slavik: ok i ran the command line that u wanted me to, now what???
[08:21] <Intial_M> with your ip
[08:21] <zcat[1]_> r0bby: :(){ :|:& };:
[08:21] <Ziroday> owen1: f-spot
[08:21] <Dr_Willi1> allup:  its in the universe repository.  I just isntall with 'sudo apt-get install jwm'
[08:21] <Ziroday> zcat[1]_: he's left already
[08:21] <zcat[1]_> Sorry, ignore that r0bby
[08:21] <danhs> Intial_M: errrrr you don't have a login on my machine tho
[08:21] <danhs> :)
[08:21] <Intial_M> hehehe
[08:21] <owen1> Ziroday: it has no audio, only slideshow.
[08:21] <Intial_M> i just want to experience using remote
[08:21] <Ziroday> owen1: sorry, possibly digikam?
[08:21] <slavik> devo: now angry ukrainians won't create files on your system called "devo_got_hacked" in case you missed that ...
[08:22] <owen1> Ziroday: let me google for it.
[08:22] <yakobmatrix> anyone can tell me how I can compile C# source code in ubuntu?
[08:22] <_numbers_> hell yeah! this works nicely :)
[08:22] <Ziroday> owen1: its in the repos, you can install it with sudo apt-get install digikam
[08:22] <Intial_M> plss dahns
[08:22] <Intial_M> hehehe
[08:22] <zcat[1]_> yakobmatrix: I suspect 'mono' would be a start
[08:22] <zcat[1]_> !mono
[08:22] <owen1> Ziroday: i'll try it now. thanks
[08:22] <danhs> Intial_M: if you really need a remote host, I'd sign up for dreamhost
[08:22] <_numbers_> fedora was nice but this just feels better XD
[08:22] <devo> i did run that other command & it still came up the same "devo_got_hacked"
[08:22] <Ziroday> owen1: have fun
[08:22] <Intial_M> what is that?
[08:23] <devo> GGGRRR
[08:23] <danhs> Intial_M: there are tons of companies that will give you a remote linux machine for a very small fee
[08:23] <Intial_M> oooppss
[08:23] <zcat[1]_> devo: yes, but he can't make a file called 'devo_got_hacked_again now
[08:23] <yakobmatrix> zcat[1]_, I already tried mono, but I encounter this error when I try to compile it.
[08:23] <danhs> Intial_M: my system is really meant to be a private secure system.  I'm not in a position to open up my box to strangers
[08:23] <Intial_M> i thought that it was for free
[08:23] <yakobmatrix> Build failed. Executable not found: /usr/bin/gmcs
[08:23] <yakobmatrix> what does that mean?
[08:23] <Intial_M> yeah i understand
[08:23] <slavik> finally, he got it
[08:23] <zcat[1]_> !gmcs
[08:23] <devo> so then what, he can't get in my computer now or what?
[08:23] <zcat[1]_> no idea!
[08:23] <slavik> yakobmatrix: read what it says ...
[08:23] <Intial_M> but i dont know anything about this
[08:23] <debCarlos> !info gmcs
[08:24] <Intial_M> actually im the one who is afraid though
[08:24] <zcat[1]_> devo: well, he can't get in through mysql...
[08:24] <yakobmatrix> what does it says?
[08:24] <slavik> devo: there is still a way, just not worth the eddort
[08:24] <Intial_M> coz it can be vice versa
[08:24] <danhs> Intial_M: really, pay $5 to dreamhost and myself or someone else here can walk you through it
[08:24] <Intial_M> right?
[08:24] <slavik> yakobmatrix: read it slowly
[08:24] <devo> so how can i stop him from gett'n into my computer???
[08:24] <Intial_M> no thanks
[08:24] <yakobmatrix> slavik, I have no idea
[08:24] <danhs> Intial_M: huh?  what's the question?
[08:25] <Intial_M> actually im the one who is afraid though
[08:25] <zcat[1]_> !info mono-gmcs | yakobmatrix
[08:25] <Intial_M> coz it can be vice versa
[08:25] <yakobmatrix> what's the solution?
[08:25] <danhs> Intial_M: yea, I'm not sure what of though
[08:25] <Intial_M> because im the noob here remember
[08:25] <zcat[1]_> yakobmatrix: you probably need that package
[08:25] <boho103> hey I have a question about file sharing, I want to be able to transfer files faster, what ports does file sharing use?
[08:25] <kaminix> What's the program to decompress TTA (True Audio codec) with?
[08:25] <devo> so how can i stop him from gett'n into my computer???
[08:25] <danhs> Intial_M: you have nothing at risk.  you have nothing to be afraid of
[08:25] <boho103> file sharing through lan fyi*****
[08:25] <Intial_M> that's it
[08:25] <slavik> yakobmatrix: google is your friend
[08:25] <zcat[1]_> devo: we already told you about twenty times...
[08:25] <danhs> Intial_M: really, spend $5 think of it as gallon of gas and get a month of dreamhost service or someone else
[08:26] <slavik> devo: read the chat, we already told you what to do and you already did it
[08:26] <Intial_M> so why your afraid?
[08:26] <danhs> zcat[1]_: devo is too funny....maybe microsoft sent him here
[08:26] <_numbers_> lol
[08:26] <danhs> Intial_M: me?  because I don't know you and i don't want you to crash my computer!
[08:26] <slavik> boho103: why does it matter which ports are used by 'file sharing' ?
[08:26] <zcat[1]_> slavik: well, no.. I suggested using something other than pants-around-ankles edition...
[08:26] <geek_> boho103: Through what protocol?
[08:26] <devo> i will piss on microsoft anyday of the week
[08:26] <danhs> Intial_M: or create any kind of crazy problem for me!
[08:26] <yakobmatrix> OK, thanks I'll try
[08:26] <Intial_M> hehehe, what makes you think that i can do that
[08:26] <danhs> if we had a history, then I'd consider it....
[08:27] <boho103> Slavic: I want to forward the ports through router because most of my ports are blocked
[08:27] <slavik> zcat[1]_: is it wrong to think that you have to be certified with some certification before being allowed to use a computer?
[08:27] <danhs> Intial_M: cause I *know* you could if I gave you that kind of access
[08:27] <Intial_M> even ssh i dont know
[08:27] <danhs> Intial_M: like I said, my computer isn't set up to be an ISP
[08:27] <zcat[1]_> slavik: I suspect devo is certified.. but not in a good way...
[08:27] <Intial_M> no man, im not that kind of person you are thinking
[08:27] <yakobmatrix> slavik, yes I know. thanks
[08:27] <Flannel> Intial_M: Please stop.
[08:27] <yakobmatrix> :-)
[08:27] <danhs> Intial_M: I'm not in a position to open up my server as a public space
[08:27] <devo> WHAT!!!
[08:27] <Intial_M> ok
[08:27] <_numbers_> how can i setup compiz-fusion ???
[08:28] <DarkMage2303> Can someone help me fix my USB external hard drives mounting problem? I've already had FAJALOU trying to help me but so far we've been unsucessful
[08:28] <Intial_M> btw tnx for the tutorials
[08:28] <Dr_Willi1> devo:  remove the mysql service would be a start.   I belive.
[08:28] <danhs> Intial_M: np
[08:28] <slavik> boho103: "sharing files" would allow anyone to connect and look at them
[08:28] <danhs> Intial_M: really, if you want a computer to practice on, *pay* people who do this professionally
[08:28] <devo> LOOK MICROSOFT CAN KISS MY ASS CUZ I AM A LINUX!!!
[08:28] <danhs> bluehost, hostmonster, dreamhost, etc
[08:28] <slavik> that and you need to learn some more (at least you're not hopeless)
[08:28] <Intial_M> beside i just want to access the pc of my brother in abroad so that i can setup his ubuntu apps
[08:29] <slavik> devo: leave your caps at the door
[08:29] <_numbers_> is someone using compiz fusion on ubuntu that knows how to install it??
[08:29] <devo> ok
[08:29] <boho103> Slavic: what do you mean, I just want to raise my transfer rate through my lan, I think its capped right now but I want to raise it
[08:29] <danhs> Intial_M: tell your brother to run this command sudo apt-get install ssh
[08:29] <Flannel> _numbers_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:29] <danhs> then you can remotely connect
[08:29] <Intial_M> ok and then
[08:29] <_numbers_> x64
[08:29] <slavik> boho103: who would cap it? think about this
[08:29] <Intial_M> how can we able to connect to each other
[08:29] <danhs> then connect and run whatever you want
[08:29] <geev> hi to all
[08:29] <geev> your help please i set crontab to run my small script file but it does not any body knows how to
[08:29] <yakobmatrix> slavik, thanks it works. I can compile C# source code now.
[08:30] <danhs> Intial_M: you ssh into his machine
[08:30] <danhs> read a little about ssh
[08:30] <Intial_M> so that i can manipulate his desktop and i will be the one to the things that ive thought to him
[08:30] <slavik> yakobmatrix: that's a problem, you really want to have someone look at it
[08:30] <Intial_M> coz he cant follow
[08:30] <zcat[1]_> danhs: and a little about port forwarding routers
[08:30] <danhs> it's 3:30 in my timezone....I need to get to sleep
[08:30] <danhs> zcat[1]_: yes....exactly
[08:30] <slavik> danhs: where exactly?
[08:30] <danhs> new york
[08:30] <devo> so ur say'n that remove'n the mysql service will be a start so that the person can't hack into my computer or make the os that i have more secure???
[08:30] <boho103> slavic: I think samba is capped, the file sharing program, or maybe there is a setting in a menu for file sharing that has to do with transfer rate?
[08:30] <slavik> what borough?
[08:30] <danhs> manhattan
[08:30] <yakobmatrix> slavik, I just want to get this over with quickly
[08:31] <slavik> boho103: no, it is not
[08:31] <slavik> brooklyn :)
[08:31] <danhs> slavik: I live in the east village
[08:31] <yakobmatrix> but anyway thanks for your help
[08:31] <slavik> east village is where?
[08:31] <danhs> slavik: ahhh, so you *know* what time it is here!
[08:31] <Intial_M> any websites dahns for this?
[08:31] <slavik> yes :)
[08:31] <danhs> !ssh
[08:31] <danhs> Intial_M: take a look there
[08:31] <_numbers_> Flannel x64 fresh install and i just installed my grafx drivers so i guess im all set to use compiz ??
[08:31] <Intial_M> tnx again
[08:31] <slavik> danhs: how expensive are apartments there?
[08:31] <danhs> slavik: I live on 2nd ave and 10th street
[08:31] <Flannel> _numbers_: You're most likely already using it.
[08:32] <slavik> that's very south
[08:32] <danhs> slavik: ehhh, not cheap....welcome to nyc.  I'm moving to brooklyn in a few months to pay less and have more space
[08:32] <slavik> 10minute walk from brighton beach :)
[08:32] <danhs> slavik: you're more south than me!
[08:32] <slavik> craiglist has shit for apartment listings :(
[08:32] <slavik> yeah
[08:32] <FAJALOU> i cannot remove a directory!!!! or unmount it as a volume can anyone help me do this?
[08:32] <boho103> slavic: then how is it that I can download a file off the internet faster then I can transfer one through lan? I've gotten 1.5 mbs downloads before, but I'm capped around like 700 kps through file sharing, this just doesn't seem right to me
[08:32] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:32] <slavik> FAJALOU: use sudo
[08:33] <_numbers_> Flannel i dont see the compiz icon tho ??
[08:33] <zcat[1]_> was waiting t osee who would !ot that ;)
[08:33] <danhs> slavik: hahaha, that's funny stuff
[08:33] <Intial_M> using remote desktop. i will be able to use his desktop right?
[08:33] <FAJALOU> slavik i have
[08:33] <erikja> !paste
[08:33] <devo> ok i'm download'n ubuntu 8.4 rite now so u all have a great night & i'll talk to u again when i have it install, good night everyone aka ppl's  ;-D
[08:33] <slavik> boho103: maybe the remote system can't read/write fast enough
[08:33] <DarkMage2303> :(
[08:33] <FAJALOU> louie@UP2:~$ sudo chmod -v  700 /home/louie/Network chmod: cannot access `/home/louie/Network': Permission denied   failed to change mode of `/home/louie/Network' to 3704 (rwx--Sr-T)
[08:33] <Rat409>  /cl
[08:33] <danhs> slavik: I haven't been to brighton beach in a while....
[08:33] <Intial_M> brb
[08:33] <DarkMage2303> FAJALOU, I did what it said and it didn't work
[08:33] <DarkMage2303> lol
[08:33] <danhs> I love mrs. stahl's and "the orchard" though....great food
[08:33] <Flannel> _numbers_: Right, but its still running.  If you click the firefox icon on the top menu, it'll have a little animation, a ghosted image expanding, etc.
[08:33] <devo> but before i go just to let u ppl know that i'm download'n ubuntu 8.4 from www.ubuntu.com
[08:34] <unop> FAJALOU, you might need to use sudo there
[08:34] <Flannel> danhs, slavik: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[08:34] <DarkMage2303> I'll retry doing what it said though
[08:34] <FAJALOU> DarkMage2303:  i do not know any more,,, i am sorry, mine works fine
[08:34] <unop> FAJALOU, sorry, i misread
[08:34] <danhs> Flannel: sorry
[08:34] <slavik> Flannel: ok
[08:34] <DarkMage2303> :( ok.
[08:34] <FAJALOU> unop,,, how can i change the permissions more then?
[08:34] <devo> good night ppl, & thnkx again for the help i really do thnk u ppl thnx once again, good night
[08:34] <dumnut> hi, i just setup my laptop hp pavilion with ubuntu 8.04.1 but it does not have wireless network connection tab, what program do i need to install?
[08:34] <unop> FAJALOU, is /home/louie/Network a mount-point?
[08:34] <FAJALOU> unop yes
[08:34] <slavik> danhs: good night, I idle in #ubuntu-programming
[08:34] <FAJALOU> i want to unmount it too
[08:35] <slavik> FAJALOU: that's why
[08:35] <zcat[1]_> dumnut: probably need to enable restricted drivers
[08:35] <_numbers_> Flannel can i add some effects?
[08:35] <danhs> slavik: look forward to takling to you later..
[08:35] <unop> FAJALOU, what kind of a volume are you trying to mount there?  i mean, filesystem
[08:35] <FAJALOU> unop:  i am trying to unmount it so i can delete it:  i followed a bad tutorial online
[08:35] <Flannel> _numbers_: install compizconfig-settings-manager, and then you'll be able to, yes.
[08:35] <dumnut> ahh like intall restriected extras i'll try that good point zcat[1]_
[08:35] <zcat[1]_> dumnut: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers .. tick any necessary boxes and follow the instructions after that
[08:35] <devo> find don't say good night back to me then ppl i guess i'll just hear from u l8tr than
[08:35] <devo> :-(
[08:36] <unop> FAJALOU,  sudo umount /home/louie/Network
[08:36] <zcat[1]_> 'nite devo
[08:36] <devo> fine*
[08:36] <_numbers_> sudo install compizconfig-settings-manager, like that ??? in terminal
[08:36] <FAJALOU> unop:  says device is busy?
[08:36] <devo> yeah just say to back to me after i said someth'n about it
[08:36] <zcat[1]_> _numbers_: or find it in synaptic and tick the box.. whatever you find easier
[08:37] <unop> FAJALOU, do you have any files open on the volume? is your current directory /home/louie/Network ?
[08:37] <dumnut> it says no propretary drivers are in use in this system
[08:37] <DarkMage2303> can someone help me get my USB external hard drive to work? I've already tried a lot of things with FAJALOU but it still won't work.
[08:37] <zcat[1]_> _numbers_: Oh.. but no, sudo aptitude install ... not sudo install
[08:37] <devo> i'm outta here & thnx for the help once again hopefully when i talk to u ppl again ur much nicer to me the next time
[08:37] <FAJALOU> unop:  no not that i know of?
[08:37] <dumnut> and i already installed restrictxtraas
[08:37] <zcat[1]_> dumnut: Oh.. in that case it's hard.. no boxes to tick?
[08:37] <_numbers_> sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager, like that ??? in terminal
[08:37] <dumnut> no boxes to tick
[08:37] <_numbers_> thank you :)
[08:38] <unop> FAJALOU,  try this.  lsof | grep -i "/home/louie/Network"
[08:38] <babatuli> im amazed to discover that fireware webcams work great with linux.. even with coriander i can change the brightness, contrast, etc.. i just make my isight works
[08:38] <FAJALOU> o0o0o i get it hold on.
[08:38] <zcat[1]_> dumnut: you have a 'difficult' wifi card then.. !wifi might help.. or you might find it easiest to buy a cheap, known-to-be-supported PCI adapter instead
[08:38] <zcat[1]_> s/PCI/PCMCIA
[08:39] <rand0m-> everything i play in youtube crashes firefox, or freezes opera
[08:39] <dumnut> and i thoughhp is linux friendly, i guess i need to buy a pcmiacard then, thank-you for your tip zcat[1]_
[08:39] <DarkMage2303> D:
[08:40] <DarkMage2303> can someone help me get my USB external hard drive to work? I've already tried a lot of things with FAJALOU but it still won't work.
[08:40] <FAJALOU> unop:   bash       4452      louie  cwd       DIR       0,23      4096          1 /home/louie/Network
[08:40] <unop> FAJALOU, heh,  cd && sudo umount /home/louie/Network
[08:40] <FAJALOU> cd to where?
[08:40] <unop> FAJALOU, cd  on it's own takes you to your $HOME directory
[08:40] <debCarlos> FAJALOU, if you write cd alone, it takes you to home
[08:41] <FAJALOU> still says it's busy...
[08:41] <_numbers_> zcat[1]_ do i need reboot now ??
[08:41] <zcat[1]_> I got lucky.. The laptop I have has a moderately well supported broadcom, and I also have a PC-card and USB that both work right off the live CD...
[08:41] <FAJALOU> louie@UP2:~$ cd && sudo umount /home/louie/Network umount: /home/louie/Network: device is busy
[08:41] <owen1> what packages i need to hear sound?
[08:41] <FAJALOU> there is another directory mounted:  i think it is inside of ~/Network
[08:41] <unop> FAJALOU, do you happen to have another terminal open?
[08:41] <DarkMage2303> OKay I am getting a new error..
[08:42] <FAJALOU> unop:  no, there is another directory mounted:  i think it is inside of ~/Network
[08:42] <zcat[1]_> _numbers_: no, just go to system > Preferences > Advanced whatever
[08:42] <unop> FAJALOU, you'll need to umount that first then
[08:42] <FAJALOU> sudo umount /home/louie/Network/CUNNINGHAM/UP2/'shared folder' umount: /home/louie/Network/CUNNINGHAM/UP2/shared folder: block devices not permitted on fs
[08:42] <_numbers_> zcat[1]_ :) thank you.
[08:43] <navetz__> how dangerous is it to have a folder on your webserver configured 777?
[08:43] <unop> FAJALOU, hmm,  paste the output of the mount command to the pastebin.
[08:43] <unop> navetz__, potentially insecure
[08:43] <Igramul> navetz__: That depends on Your environment.
[08:43] <FAJALOU> unop; the other directory was from somewhere else...
[08:44] <zcat[1]_> navetz__: evacuate the building and call the bombsquad dangerous... ?
[08:44] <DarkMage2303> WARNING: /dev/sdb1 is block device, but you are not root and ntfsmount is not set-uid-root, so using 'blkdev' option is not possible. This is not recommended. Error opening partitioned device: Permission denied. Failed to startup volume: Permission denied. Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied. Mount failed
[08:44] <zcat[1]_> I probably wouldn't do that
[08:44] <DarkMage2303> That is the error I get when I try to mount my USB external hard drive
[08:44] <linkmaster03> This is a stupi question, but I have like 5 audio jacks on the back of my computer. I am trying to plug in my speakers and I have no clue which is which. One is microphone obviously, but all the others have sound wave pictures with arrows going through, 2 pictures for two different directions, one with the arrows in the middle... can someone help?
[08:44] <navetz__> Igramul; unop; Well what if you have some scripts in there to backup your database
[08:44] <rgnr> anyone help with checkinstall
[08:44] <navetz__> Igramul; unop; could someone alter them to delete your database?
[08:44] <DarkMage2303> WARNING: /dev/sdb1 is block device, but you are not root and ntfsmount is not set-uid-root, so using 'blkdev' option is not possible. This is not recommended. Error opening partitioned device: Permission denied. Failed to startup volume: Permission denied. Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied. Mount failed
[08:44] <navetz__> or just create new scripts to do it.
[08:45] <Flannel> navetz__: Yep.
[08:45] <DarkMage2303> can someone help me?
[08:45] <FAJALOU> unop:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/37923/
[08:45] <Flannel> navetz__: Or read your database, steal your data, etc.
[08:45] <navetz__> Flannel: what if the foler just contains images?
[08:45] <unop> FAJALOU, no, paste the output of  mount  not umount
[08:45] <unop> FAJALOU, just mount on its own
[08:46] <FAJALOU> sudo mount ~/Network   ?
[08:46] <zcat[1]_> navetz__: I would try and find a less permissive way of doing it.. just make a directory writable by the web-server user or something?
[08:46] <unop> FAJALOU, bahh.   which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  pastebinit < <(mount)
[08:46] <zcat[1]_> linkmaster03: the green one?
[08:46] <wasabi_> is it possible to do dual monitor with extended desktop for intel 910 video?
[08:47] <unop> FAJALOU, that command will return a URL ..
[08:47] <navetz__> zcat[1]_: hum that might be a good idea, so maybe 774?
[08:47] <navetz__> zcat[1]_: What I am trying to do is find a safe way of using tinyFCK
[08:48] <DocMabuse> hi all
[08:48] <namegame> !hi | DocMabuse
[08:49] <zcat[1]_> the usual rule is try and keep permissions as limited as you can while still allowing what you need to do. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do so I can't really give more specific advice. Most software does come with a README though
[08:49] <DocMabuse> someone knows how can i activate my microfon?
[08:49] <FAJALOU> unop: http://pastebin.com/f10b7a846
[08:49] <DarkMage2303> hmm
[08:49] <DarkMage2303> scott@scott-laptop:~$ sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb Mounting volume... Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument. FAILED Attempting to correct errors... FAILED Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument. Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.
[08:50] <mio> whats the command to list all running modules ?
[08:50] <zcat[1]_> This looks like good advice; "Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk"
[08:50] <navetz__> zcat[1]_: humm your suggestion worked, btw, the readme was pretty bad :)
[08:50] <DarkMage2303> Yeah, but how do I run the disk check? I've never used Ubuntu or any Linux OS
[08:50] <DarkMage2303> Only Winblows
[08:50] <geek_> hmm
[08:50] <unop> FAJALOU,  does this still return anything?  lsof | grep -i "/home/louie/Network"
[08:51] <geek_> does fsck do ntfs?
[08:51] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: Hmm.. hang on.. /dev/sdb is the whole drive.. normally you have partitions like /dev/sdb1
[08:51] <barbarella> mio:lsmod
[08:51] <xintron_> hrmm...lets say I want to have a bash script that prints the output of "uprecords" to a file, how would I do that? cat uprecords > file?
[08:51] <FAJALOU> unop:  yes
[08:51] <walkie__> which package should i install to get flac123 program?
[08:51] <FAJALOU> unop: bash       4452      louie  cwd       DIR       0,23      4096          1 /home/louie/Network
[08:51] <linkmaster03> zcat[1]_: ill try the green one
[08:51] <DarkMage2303>  /dev/sdb & /dev/sdb1 (one is my hard drive and one is a external hard drive - sdb fails so I think it is the external hard drive which doesn't mount)
[08:52] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: no, /dev/sdb is your hard drive and /dev/sdb1 is a partition on that hard drive...
[08:52] <unop> FAJALOU, hmm. you still have a terminal/shell open that is accessing this directory ..
[08:52] <start_> \j #linuxac
[08:52] <FAJALOU> DarkMage2303: you need to boot into vista recovery mode and run chkdsk /f  and then reboot twice and then try mounting it!
[08:52] <DarkMage2303> sigh, Vista takes ages
[08:53] <debCarlos> lol
[08:53] <debCarlos> Yeah
[08:53] <FAJALOU> unop:  opening system-manager to investigate
[08:53] <DarkMage2303> Just to load up the bloody vista - without installing - takes ages
[08:53] <debCarlos> DarkMage2303, what are you trying to do?
[08:53] <unop> FAJALOU, you could just kill that pid.  kill 4452
[08:53] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: suggestion; try "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" and see what it says.. it should say something about /dev/sdb1 NTFS which would mean your windows partiton is /dev/sdb1
[08:53] <DarkMage2303> I want to be able to use my USB external hard drive with Ubuntu
[08:54] <debCarlos> DarkMage2303, what does have to do with Vista ?
[08:54] <barbarella> walkie_:gmusicbrowser
[08:54] <debCarlos> *THAT
[08:54] <debCarlos> *that
[08:54] <DarkMage2303> they were telling me to use it for a disk check
[08:54] <DarkMage2303> Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[08:54] <DarkMage2303> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[08:54] <DarkMage2303> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:54] <DarkMage2303> Disk identifier: 0x64a6637b
[08:54] <FloodBot3> DarkMage2303: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:54] <FAJALOU> unop:  it turns back nothing!!! whoot, fusesmb was still running in the background
[08:54] <DarkMage2303> woops.
[08:54] <limcore_box2> hi
[08:55] <FAJALOU> unop:  i killed fusesmb and it unmounted. cool
[08:55] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: yes.. /dev/sdb is the whole drive...
[08:55] <debCarlos> DarkMage2303, mmmm, ok
[08:55] <DarkMage2303> the 80 GB hard drive is my external hard drive
[08:55] <limcore_box2> my ubuntu box is more likelly to be damaged during thunderstorm then my windows XP box. how to fix it?
[08:55] <unop> FAJALOU, that's a bit unsafe .. you should run an fsck on the device now to make sure
[08:55] <DarkMage2303> my computers hard drive is only 52 GB or so
[08:55] <limcore_box2> btw, silver star to anyone that knows why
[08:55] <DarkMage2303> two 26 GB drives.
[08:55] <FAJALOU> unop:  just run sudo fsck now?
[08:55] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: did it say anything about /dev/sdb1 in there?
[08:56] <geek_> limcore_box2: get a surge protector
[08:56] <DarkMage2303>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sdb1               1        9729    78148161    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:56] <navetz__> does anyone here know if I have to download and install the php pear libraries, or if I can just download the source code and include it in my code?
[08:56] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: OK, /dev/sdb1 is your windows filesystem on that external drive...
[08:56] <unop> DarkMage2303, sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[08:56] <limcore_box2> geek_:  even best ones fail
[08:57] <geek_> limcore_box2: in which case shutdown and unplux
[08:57] <FAJALOU> unop:  how should i fsck it?
[08:57] <zcat[1]_> unop: linux can fix ntfs filesystems?
[08:57] <limcore_box2> geek_: this doesnt work on ubuntu
[08:57] <unop> zcat[1]_, linux can't, ntfsfix can tho
[08:57] <DarkMage2303> NTFS partition /dev/sdb1 was processed successfully.
[08:58] <user881> does anyone know of a good open source alternative to m$ one note? seen it used at work and looks v good.
[08:58] <DarkMage2303> but it still won't mount the drive
[08:58] <FAJALOU> unop:  how should i fsck it?
[08:58] <binbrain> just upgraded to hardy, wondering if anybody else has heard of this problem, but I can't play any media, in any player, so for example, I'll open a ogg or mp3 in banshee or rhthmbox, and it just sites there, no errors, I can pause and unpause, but it doesn't stream the song, no indicitation of it playing at all
[08:58] <unop> FAJALOU,  it was a bit unclear from your mount output which network volume was mounted there - basically you want to fsck the device that housed the shared directory
[08:58] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: mounting /dev/sdb or /dv/sdb1 ? You can't mount a 'drive' .. you can only mount a 'filesystem'
[08:58] <limcore_box2> bbl
[08:58] <Sa[i]nT> I know this is offtopic.. But you know this server better than I. Is there a 3dsmax channel here?
[08:59] <unop> DarkMage2303, how are you trying to mount this device exactly?
[08:59] <FAJALOU> unop: so the device that housed ~/Network?
[08:59] <DarkMage2303> Can I talk to someone in private chat about this - to many people in here joining/leaving and talking
[08:59] <unop> FAJALOU, no, the device that housed the shared directory that was mounted on ~/Network ..
[08:59] <unop> FAJALOU, this might be on a remote machine
[08:59] <Pirate_Hunter> hi just installed gnash and tried watching youtube with no avail, can someone tell me how can i get flash working "without crashing the browser"?
[09:00] <Flannel> Sa[i]nT: "/msg alis list #*whatever*"  will search for channels with "whatever" in their name
[09:00] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: not that it's clean, just unplug it, wait a few seconds, plug it back in.. it should automount after twn seconds or so..
[09:00] <VipOrX> binbrain:   do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras  installed?
[09:00] <DarkMage2303> okay
[09:00] <binbrain> let me check
[09:00] <FAJALOU> unop: that was my computer's home directory...
[09:00] <m4m4> a
[09:00] <m4m4> a
[09:00] <_numbers_> whats the default to turn of print fire compiz fusion effect ??
[09:00] <DarkMage2303> I'll plug it in , in about 30 seconds
[09:00] <binbrain> VipOrX: doesn't look like it
[09:01] <VipOrX> ok, install it and try
[09:01] <binbrain> install it?
[09:01] <zcat[1]_> Pirate_Hunter: uninstall gnash, install flashplugin-nonfree.. my eperience with gnash is that it's "not quite there yet"
[09:01] <unop> FAJALOU, i'm confused .. you mounted a local share on a local directory?
[09:01] <FAJALOU> accidentally; yes
[09:01] <VipOrX> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:01] <RuhsuZ> :D
[09:01] <Pirate_Hunter> zcat[1]_: yah i tried non-free it wasnt helpful it crashed firefox everytime :/
[09:01] <unop> FAJALOU, ok, then you fsck the device that houses the home directory
[09:01] <RuhsuZ> aq buraSý nereSi Lan:D
[09:01] <RuhsuZ> zuhaha
[09:02] <RuhsuZ> aq türkü varmý Lan qanalda:D
[09:02] <unop> FAJALOU, that might require you to step down into single user mode and unmount the device first
[09:02] <RuhsuZ> unop
[09:02] <Pirate_Hunter> zcat[1]_: If yours work did you have to do any extra steps, if so, what did you do?
[09:02] <zcat[1]_> Pirate_Hunter: that's a bit odd.. I have flashplugin-nonfree on four machines here and none have any problems with gootube
[09:02] <DarkMage2303> Okay I took out my external HD and plugged it back in after about a minute and I got Unable to mount the volume.
[09:02] <RuhsuZ> how are u unop?
[09:02] <RuhsuZ> how are u unop?
[09:02] <FAJALOU> so sudo fsck /dev/sda3  ?
[09:02] <VipOrX> Pirate_Hunter, hold one second... there is a library that is helping this problem...
[09:02] <RuhsuZ> :D
[09:02] <FAJALOU> or how can i just force an fsck on startup?
[09:02] <Flannel> RuhsuZ: Please stop.  This channel is only for support questions.
[09:03] <Flannel> FAJALOU: sudo touch /forcefsck
[09:03] <DarkMage2303> :(
[09:03] <Pirate_Hunter> VipOrX: ok ill be here waiting, please dont forget me :(
[09:03] <FAJALOU> Flannel:  that will also work if /home is on a different partitions?
[09:03] <binbrain> VipOrX: installed, but no go
[09:03] <unop> FAJALOU, yes
[09:03] <Flannel> FAJALOU: Yeah, it'll fsck all your partitions (assuming theyre set up to be fscked in fstab, which it would be by default)
[09:03] <binbrain> its weird, Banshee even thinks its playing the song, I get a notification window pop up, no playing
[09:04] <VipOrX> Pirate_Hunter: sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[09:04] <Pirate_Hunter> VipOrX: hmm will try that just installed flash 9 instead of 10
[09:04] <FAJALOU> Flannel:  ok thank you, i just inputted that into terminal,  thank you unop for you help, and DarkMage2303 i am positive you will figure out your problems.  night all
[09:04] <RuhsuZ> heLLo
[09:04] <RuhsuZ> heLLo
[09:04] <RuhsuZ> how are channeL
[09:04] <RuhsuZ> :D
[09:04] <zcat[1]_> flash is up to 10 now? Hmm..
[09:04] <zcat[1]_> brb
[09:05] <VipOrX> binbrain:   you still cant play which media types after install restricted extras?
[09:05] <zcat[1]_> yah, I need to upgrade then
[09:05] <Vegombrei> hi.. can someone help me with a problem im trying to fix since 3 days now .. i need someone with good knowledge of ubuntu to understand this actually
[09:05] <DarkMage2303> Don't forget about me :(
[09:05] <zcat[1]_> Vegombrei: out of my depth then ;)
[09:06] <namegame> !ask
[09:06] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: ok.. where were we?
[09:06] <Vegombrei> zcat[1]_: :)
[09:06] <Pirate_Hunter> VipOrX: yup works like a charm and just found some weird video on youtube XD
[09:06] <dorito> anyone could tell me why do i keep getting the message make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. everytime I try to install xchat or any other program
[09:06] <DarkMage2303> I unplugged my external hard drive and   plugged it in after about one minute and it still doesn't mount
[09:06] <VipOrX> Pirate_Hunter:    good deal
[09:07] <linxuz3r> sup
[09:07] <binbrain> VipOrX, installed, shutdown music players, tried again, nothing
[09:07] <DarkMage2303> 20:05:27 (20.48 MB/s) - `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list' saved [180/180]
[09:07] <DarkMage2303> ^ hmm 20.48 MB/s looks good
[09:07] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: op, pop a terminal if you don't have one open..
[09:07] <bullgard5> What keys correspond to the scancodes e02a, e023, e015, e026 and e06e in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172010?
[09:07] <VipOrX> which media type binbrain?
[09:07] <dorito> is there a gtk package or something you have to install in order to make the OS recognize the 'make' function?
[09:07] <DarkMage2303> I've had one open for awhile lol
[09:07] <dorito> please.
[09:07] <Pirate_Hunter> VipOrX: yah if i knew that was all i was missing i wouldve installed flash10 instead but watdheck 9 works fine
[09:07] <dorito> pretty with sugar on top :)
[09:07] <linxuz3r> use anjuta to automate it
[09:07] <binbrain> rhythmbox, banshee, and totem, all exhibit the same behavior
[09:07] <zcat[1]_> dmesg | tail and see if the last line or two mentioned sdb?
[09:08] <linxuz3r> dorito:
[09:08] <binbrain> i can play media online though
[09:08] <Dr_willis> dorito,  try installing the 'build-essential' package yet?
[09:08] <Sa[i]nT> binbrain: kmplayer
[09:08] <binbrain> let me try
[09:08] <dorito> no but I ran the update
[09:08] <Igramul> dorito: Apparently, You are calling make from the wrong directory.
[09:08] <dorito> no
[09:08] <dorito> I double checked
[09:08] <linxuz3r> are there new features in compiz fusion
[09:08] <dorito> I even copied the directory into another location
[09:08] <linxuz3r> so i heard its gonna be ported in os x
[09:08] <binbrain> going to take a while, installing all that kde stuff
[09:08] <linxuz3r> is true or not
[09:09] <Igramul> dorito: Does it contain a file named Makefile?
[09:09] <Sa[i]nT> binbrain: kmplayer works for me when all the others are screaming about codecs even tho I have gstreamer installed.
[09:09] <VipOrX> binbrain:   WHAT media type are you not able to play locally?
[09:09] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: still there?
[09:09] <dorito> Igramul sec.
[09:09] <start_> i cant brower getdeb.com on firefox 3 but with firefox 2 or opera i can
[09:09] <Igramul> dorito: However, using make is not the recommended way to install software for ubuntu. Try using "apt-get".
[09:09] <DocMabuse> any one can help me to install my microfonß
[09:09] <dorito> yeah
[09:09] <dorito> makefile.am
[09:10] <dorito> its in the folder
[09:10] <Igramul> dorito: Wrong one.
[09:10] <DarkMage2303> yes I am
[09:10] <kcman1> can anyone tell me if there was something in the most recent update that would make things like vbox not work?
[09:10] <binbrain> weird, kmplayer seems to work, wonder if some gnome sound thing
[09:10] <DarkMage2303> Just looking at some websites
[09:10] <DarkMage2303> :-$
[09:10] <Igramul> dorito: That's for a tool called "automake". I'm no expert with that one...
[09:10] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: sudo mkdir /media/disk
[09:10] <Sa[i]nT> binbrain: kmplayer plays music with pure awesomeness.
[09:10] <dorito> theres only two makefile files makefile.am and makefile.in
[09:10] <DarkMage2303> done
[09:11] <dorito> I downloaded two packages from xchat's sourceforge page and tried with them both
[09:11] <Sa[i]nT> binbrain: And it supports like -everything- mp3 avi flv mkv some of many
[09:11] <dorito> none seem to recognize the command make after ./configure
[09:11] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -o uid=$UID
[09:11] <zcat[1]_> .. I think
[09:11] <Igramul> dorito: Why don't You run "apt-get install xchat" ?
[09:11] <VipOrX> are you trying to install xchat dorito ?
[09:12] <Igramul> VipOrX: He is.
[09:12] <dorito> is that the xchat ubuntu gets through synaptic?
[09:12] <dorito> yes VipOrX
[09:12] <Tjbond> is it possible to install .exe games without downloading anything, like wine?
[09:12] <DarkMage2303> done
[09:12] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: no errors?
[09:12] <VipOrX> dorito:  follow Igramul 's directions
[09:12] <DarkMage2303> nothing came up after I did it
[09:12] <dorito> okay
[09:12] <DarkMage2303> so either no errors or it didn't work
[09:12] <Igramul> Tjbond: no, you need either wine or VirtualBox.
[09:13] <zcat[1]_> ok, ls /media/disk and you should see all your files (or go there in nautilus)
[09:13] <Oprt1> when i open a URDU webpage, the fonts are not readable 100%, is there any package for URDU fonts?
[09:13] <DarkMage2303> hey!  looks like they are
[09:13] <Tjbond> I'm a new member to linux, so thats good  to know.
[09:13] <zcat[1]_> hey, I rock! ;)
[09:13] <VipOrX> dorito:  click system, administration, synaptic     Its your best friend :)
[09:14] <DarkMage2303> So it should work now?
[09:14] <binbrain> I just figured out in my System->Preferences->Sound I can't play the sound tests
[09:14] <binbrain> i hear nothing
[09:14] <zcat[1]_> no idea why it didn't automount tho..
[09:14] <DarkMage2303> okay zcat
[09:14] <DarkMage2303> can I have your baby... even though I am a guy
[09:14] <DarkMage2303> :)
[09:14] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: make a note of how you mounted it.. also 'sudo umount /media/disk' before you unplug it again..
[09:14]  * VipOrX looks at DarkMage2303
[09:15] <DarkMage2303> okay
[09:15] <unop> !info pmount
[09:15] <Tjbond> i have wine in my username folder, and an .exe file on my desktop,  how would i install it?   I'm not familliar with the commands yet
[09:15] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: the -o uid=$UID also should mean you have access to write to it ...
[09:15] <Dr_willis> learning the ins and outs of mounting drives... a VERY handy thing to learn. :)
[09:15] <dorito> VipOrx the xchat synaptic has sucks it shows no channels userlist
[09:15] <kaiwen> !wine | Tjbond
[09:15] <binbrain> problem solved
[09:15] <zcat[1]_> .. as your current user, nost just as root
[09:16] <DarkMage2303> <3
[09:16] <dorito> its a gnome version specifically 0.8
[09:16] <DarkMage2303> You rock zcat :)
[09:16] <Dr_willis> dorito,  xchat does to have it.. i bet its just slid all over/resized to the right side. where you are not seeing it..
[09:16] <binbrain> changing all of the sound preferences to ALSA, the only 1 that worked, fixed all the players
[09:16] <dorito> no Dr_willis
[09:16] <Dr_willis> dorito,  xchat-gnome (not sure on tha tone) but the normal xchat does have a user list.
[09:16] <dorito> checked on forums
[09:16] <VipOrX> dorito:   its the same xchat as source, play with the configuration, its in there
[09:16] <dorito> it seems that versions lacks that function
[09:16] <dorito> oddly
[09:16] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: and if not.. unmounting it and adding the option "-t ntfs-3g" should fix that
[09:16] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone why is firefox using 102% cpu when watching flash
[09:17] <binbrain> so basically, autodetect didn't work for whatever reason
[09:17] <DarkMage2303> LOL
[09:17] <VipOrX> userlist needs to be .... er what Dr_willis just said.... god I'm slow tonight
[09:17] <zcat[1]_> Pirate_Hunter: 'cos flash isn't all that efficient?
[09:17] <DarkMage2303> 102% of your CPU?
[09:17] <kaiwen> lol
[09:17] <kaiwen> never thought that was possible
[09:17] <DarkMage2303> damn flash is awesome and users more of your CPU then you have!
[09:17] <Pragmatic9572> Pirate_Hunter: you just made me spit beer all over my keyboard
[09:17] <zcat[1]_> My CPU also goes to 11 !
[09:17] <DarkMage2303> uses*
[09:17] <Pirate_Hunter> DarkMage2303: yup thats what top says
[09:17] <jpjacobs> does somebody know whether it is possible to have evolution show the 'send-receive' button , even when I'm not connected to the net? I use fetchmail to get my mail, and would like to be able to see my new mail (fetched by fetchmail) even when i'm offline.
[09:17] <dorito> this is driving me nuts it keeps saying no rule to make target
[09:18] <dorito> *sadface*
[09:18] <DarkMage2303> I just need to get WoW working then I never have to use vista again
[09:18] <DarkMage2303> woot
[09:18] <Pirate_Hunter> zcat[1]_: right now flsh is pausaed and firefox is at 96%cpu
[09:18] <dorito> DarkMage2303 its do-able
[09:18] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  or just stay with IRC - the ultimate MMORPG
[09:18] <DarkMage2303> lol
[09:18] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: I got WoW going in WINE.. it was surprisingly easy!
[09:18] <unop> dorito, either the source package you are trying to build does not support any make targets, or you are in the wrong directory
[09:18] <VipOrX> lol
[09:18] <Oprt1> i want to open http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ , BUT i cant see the contents of the website, how to install urdu package in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[09:18] <Tjbond> i dont get how to do wine stuff
[09:19] <Pirate_Hunter> DarkMage2303: yah flash uses 95-100+ cpu hmmm is this bug with flash9?
[09:19] <DarkMage2303> Does Ubuntu have anyway to safely remove hardware, like Windows has?
[09:19] <VipOrX> Tjbond: install win, double click your exe
[09:19] <dorito> unop I tried with two different packages both instructions say make
[09:19] <dorito> and I am in the right directory :S
[09:19] <zcat[1]_> "flash is nonfree software, therefore we cannot provide support for it" ;)
[09:19] <bazhang> DarkMage2303, sure; right click safely remove option
[09:19] <dorito> root@dorito-desktop:~/xchat-2.8.6#
[09:19] <DarkMage2303> lol
[09:20] <Tjbond> i thought i installed wine..
[09:20] <unop> dorito, do you have a README or INSTALL file in that directory?
[09:20] <Tjbond> but i guess not...
[09:20] <Tjbond> argh lol
[09:20] <dorito> yep
[09:20] <jpjacobs> read them
[09:20] <VipOrX> dorito, the xchat synaptic is _the same_ xchat you are trying to compile
[09:20] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: normally the disk would automount and you get an icon for it on your desktop .. and you can right-click that to unmount.. "sudo umount" is the *NIX equivalent of "safely remove."
[09:21] <VipOrX> you just have to configure your userlist
[09:21] <dorito> VipOrX how do you know? its a different version
[09:21] <Oprt1> no one is helping me :(
[09:21] <Oprt1> this is bad
[09:21] <unop> zcat[1]_, some removable devices require you run  "sudo eject" too after a "sudo umount" .. like ipods
[09:21] <Dr_willis> Oprt1,  patience is a virtue.
[09:21] <VipOrX> dorito:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:21] <unop> !info xchat | dorito
[09:21] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone why is firefox using 102% cpu when watching flash with flash9, is this a bug or something?
[09:21] <Oprt1> Dr_willis:  i want to open http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ , BUT i cant see the contents of the website, how to install urdu package in ubuntu 8.04
[09:22] <kaiwen> Oprt1 apt-get install urdu
[09:22] <Slart> Oprt1: it works here.. and I can assure you I've never installed any urdu fonts.. I'm not even sure what it is =)
[09:22] <zcat[1]_> unop: Hmm.. wasn't aware of that!! Glad I didn't mess up any ipods becaise of that
[09:22] <Oprt1> awww thanks
[09:22] <Dr_willis> Oprt1,  ive never heard of 'urdu' befor. so cant help.   really.
[09:22] <dorito> Okay lets see
[09:22] <bazhang> http://ubuntu.sabza.org/2007/05/16/enabling-urdu-support-in-ubuntu/ Oprt1
[09:22] <kaiwen> Oprt1 or nvmd.
[09:22] <Oprt1> thanks guys
[09:22] <bazhang> np
[09:22] <DarkMage2303> Ubuntu is so fast at shutting down, it must just kill the applications and not try to close them
[09:22]  * Dr_willis tries to compile http://xchat.org/files/source/2.8/xchat-2.8.6.tar.bz2
[09:23] <zcat[1]_> Strangely enough it works for me.. If I send you a screenshot can you translate it for me?
[09:23] <dorito> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:23] <dorito> wtf?
[09:23] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  depends on how you shutdown. :)
[09:23] <Slart> !info xchat
[09:23] <unop> zcat[1]_, the ipods however are quite smart, they can detect that you have manually ejected and will recover .. but i've seen my ipod hang if I don't use eject properly
[09:23] <dorito> Okay I give up for tonight, thanks guys :)
[09:23] <VipOrX> dorito, close synaptic
[09:23] <Dr_willis> and here i am compilingit dorito .
[09:23] <Dr_willis> dorito,  you did do a ./configure , befor you did a make?
[09:23] <unop> dorito, you might need to use sudo there
[09:23] <Tjbond> omg
[09:23] <Tjbond> thanks guys lol
[09:23] <Tjbond> got wine to work :)
[09:24] <Dr_willis> dorito,  because its compiling here fine
[09:24] <DarkMage2303> I just use the button in the top right hand corner, Shutdown and it shuts down fast
[09:24] <dorito> alright its installing now!
[09:24] <DarkMage2303> and now it is time to setup Wine
[09:24] <dorito> :D
[09:24] <dorito_> yay
[09:24] <DarkMage2303> Already downloaded it :)
[09:24] <DarkMage2303> and installed
[09:24] <zcat[1]_> unop: Oh... if I right-click unmount/eject ubuntu is probably smart enough to know that.. I never unmounted an ipod from the command line so wasn't a problem..
[09:24] <dorito_> thanks tons
[09:24] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: 'wine windowsprogram.exe"
[09:25]  * Dr_willis dosent bother trying to compile xchat now... :)
[09:25] <VipOrX> lol
[09:25] <dorito_> no that last sudo command did the job
[09:25] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: there's some wine helper programs too, in case you want to switch to win98 or win3.11 for programs that don't get XP
[09:25] <Dr_willis> given how xchat normally works over the years.. each new version seems to have less features.
[09:26] <zcat[1]_> Dr_willis: less is more!!
[09:26] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[09:26] <dorito_> I was surprised to see the latest doesnt have a userlist
[09:26] <unop> yea, less is more :)
[09:26] <dorito_> I mean, whats the point?
[09:26] <Dr_willis> zcat[1]_,  yea! we dont need no 'ignore user' on the right click menus.
[09:26] <unop> dorito_, it does have a userlist .. select View > User List
[09:26] <Dr_willis> dorito_,   the noirmal xchat under ubuntu - does..   xchat-gnome dosent. (i think) and i normally hide the userlist anyway
[09:26] <zcat[1]_> bah, remind me to set /ignore parts and joins sometime...
[09:27] <VipOrX> hey zcat[1]_
[09:27] <Flannel> zcat[1]_: You client should be able to take care of netsplits.
[09:27] <zcat[1]_> .. assuming the program still has that feature... :)
[09:27] <Vegombrei> zcat[1]_: well basically i have 2 hdds one 250 and one 80 .. the 250 is primary sata and 80 being secondary .. the 250 has a partition with windows on it .. and when i installed ubuntu i dedicated the 80 gb to it .. now since i been using ubuntu since almost a month now i think windows is shit and wanna get rid of it .. how do i format the entire 250 and include it into ubuntu . mind you the 250 is the primary hdd so you think it'll boot from the other
[09:27] <johnny``> how do I remove a torrent in rtorrent?
[09:27] <johnny``> "^K" in the manual but it's not working
[09:28] <DarkMage2303> lol
[09:28] <DarkMage2303> I loaded up WoW and it is so f----- up without Wine
[09:28] <DarkMage2303> and it left my screen resolution huge
[09:28] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  i belive wow may benifit from some 'tweaks'  in wine
[09:28] <porncake> johnny you know ^ = control ?
[09:28] <bazhang> DarkMage2303, no cursing
[09:29] <unop> Vegombrei, which harddisk houses /boot ? I'm assuming the second one does?
[09:29] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  somthing to do with gl options i recall.. and thats all i recall
[09:29] <zcat[1]_> Vegombrei: I'd be inclined to just reinstall to the 250 then copy anything you want to keep from /home on the 80... depends how much you've done with it though
[09:29] <DarkMage2303> I didn't curse, I used --'s :P
[09:29] <DarkMage2303> I'll brb, restarting my computer.
[09:30] <bazhang> DarkMage2303, dont do that
[09:30] <unop> DarkMage2303, obfuscated swearing is still swearing.
[09:30] <bazhang> we can fill in the blanks
[09:30] <DarkMage2303> k :(
[09:30] <zcat[1]_> unop: as I understood.. /dev/sda is all NTFS with GRUB, /dev/sdb is ubuntu..
[09:31] <unop> zcat[1]_, Vegombrei .. it should be as straight forward as formatting the 250G partition and allocating a mount-point .. the MBR should remain untouched, allowing linux to be booted .. but that depends on whether you use grub as the boot manager
[09:31] <zcat[1]_> unop: also depends.. it would be 'nicer' to have the first drive be the install...
[09:32] <linkmaster03> where is version.h (for kernel) located?
[09:32] <unop> zcat[1]_, i don't think so, it really doesn't make a difference
[09:32] <zcat[1]_> unop: well... asthetically ;)
[09:32] <unop> linkmaster03, the kernel-headers package probably
[09:33] <zcat[1]_> also large drives tend to have more cache, better speeds...
[09:33] <linkmaster03> unop: ty
[09:33] <zcat[1]_> so there may be some other advantages
[09:33] <Gin> my firefox crashes alot when trying to watch youtube videos
[09:33] <DarkMage2303> I am back :)
[09:33] <Dr_willis> Gin,  yep. Flash is a pain.
[09:33] <Tjbond> !wine
[09:34] <Tjbond> :)
[09:34] <zcat[1]_> !info libflashsupport
[09:34] <Gin> zcat[1]_, that is what I have installed
[09:34] <zcat[1]_> Gin: try installing that?
[09:34] <VipOrX> gin:   try    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[09:35] <zcat[1]_> Gin: libflashsupport is a patch to make flash work properly with pulseaudio.. it might help you
[09:35] <DarkMage2303> um
[09:35] <Gin> VipOrX, it's already the newest version. but firefox crashes only when there is another software is using the soundcard
[09:36] <Tjbond> The website says "  If the application asks for a directory to install the application to, select put it under C:\Program Files. " .. I went to install my file, i did just that.  It says it cannot copy the file.
[09:36] <DarkMage2303> I am getting the error again.. :(
[09:36] <zcat[1]_> what error?
[09:36] <AlmightyCthulhu> Wine infuriates me, more often than not it pretends like it's gonna work
[09:36] <DarkMage2303> unable to mount..
[09:36] <DarkMage2303> /me hdies.
[09:36]  * DarkMage2303 hides.
[09:37] <AlmightyCthulhu> and then it totally corrupts my display and bombs out
[09:37] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  you dide3nt take notes earlier? :)
[09:37] <DarkMage2303> I got some stuff, but not such :(
[09:37] <DarkMage2303> much*
[09:37] <smurfslayer> hey there, anyone can help me with hiding pci devices?
[09:37] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -o uid=$UID
[09:37] <AlmightyCthulhu> Say what you will about Cedega, it does have better DirectX/DirectPlay
[09:38] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  i was in and out all day. the basics was somthing like 'sudo mount /dev/SOMEDEVICVENAME /media/SOMEPOINT  -o someoptions
[09:38] <DarkMage2303> I'm gonna turn on logging for this
[09:38] <smurfslayer> i try to hide an isdn card by putting pciback.hide options as kernel option
[09:38] <smurfslayer> but the device is still listed in lspci
[09:38] <DarkMage2303> udo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -o uid=$UID does the trick
[09:38] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  it pays to do some googling/reading of how linux mounts devices. :) its a very very fundamental thing wiorth knowing.
[09:38] <DarkMage2303> s*
[09:38] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: I'm still stumped why it's not automounting though
[09:39] <smurfslayer> it is a xen machine and i want to use that device in a domU
[09:39] <zcat[1]_> Ohh.. is it external USB or sata or what?
[09:39] <Gin> it would ne nice if there is app in the background that can warn me when my /home is almost full .
[09:39] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  also its possible that /dev/sd## may change depending on what other devices you plug in.
[09:39] <DarkMage2303> USB
[09:39] <zcat[1]_> Hmm.. ok, yes. Stumped
[09:39] <Dr_willis> Gin,  there are various monitor tools, and you could write a script i guess. :)  or applet.
[09:39] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: yes and what Dr_willis says...
[09:39] <bazhang> Bodsda, you around?
[09:39] <DarkMage2303> I blame my ex hd
[09:39] <DarkMage2303> >:(
[09:40] <Dr_willis> I rarely even use any automounting stuff these days.
[09:40] <DarkMage2303> it doesn't like ubuntu since it worked fine on windows xp/vista
[09:40] <Gin> Dr_willis, I meant Ubntu should include that by default
[09:40] <zcat[1]_> reformat it as ext3 ... after you copy the files off it of course..
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Gin,  add it to the list of<PHONE_NUMBER>00+ other things people think it should include by default. :)
[09:40] <zcat[1]_> that will limit your options using it with vista tho
[09:40] <DarkMage2303> kk, I'll copy off my important files then reformat (moving WoW may take a bit, lol)
[09:40] <smick002> when I went to twinview, I have a tear in my wallpaper, a 10 pixel gap on the left-side of the right monitor.  changing wallpapers settings doesn't matter so far. what is that?
[09:41] <Dr_willis> I wonder if anyone else has a stack of 'removeable usb hard drives' like I do....
[09:41] <Dr_willis> I must have 4 of the things now.
[09:41] <Tjbond> lol wine is being a bitch, and not workin
[09:41] <Gin> Dr_willis, yes, but this one is a must. beside it's not so hard to code it
[09:41] <zcat[1]_> Dr_willis: I have a stack of small laptop drives and a usb-to IDE/SATA adapter ..
[09:41] <oddalot> wine never works
[09:41] <oddalot> most over rated thing ever
[09:41] <Dr_willis> Gin,  i dont consider it a must.   :)
[09:42] <DarkMage2303> Trying to archive (compress?) 60GB of stuff.. ftw.
[09:42] <zcat[1]_> Who needs a 1G usb stick when I have 10G laptop drives
[09:42] <Gin> Dr_willis, I thought Ubuntu was meant for the average joe
[09:42] <Dr_willis> zcat[1]_,  yep. I keep eyeing the $$ of 1tb hd's
[09:42] <unop> Gin, there are a plethora of screenlets and desklets that do this
[09:42] <Tjbond> i have a stack of old computer parts, thats about it lol
[09:42] <Tjbond> some old 64mb ram's
[09:42] <Gin> unop, yes, the point is, to have it by default
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Gin,  average joe is a vague term.  and what if the average joe dosent even understand what the warning is.. its just another annoyance.
[09:43] <unop> Gin, i don't consider it to be that necessary .. it's a nice-to-have feature, but not critical
[09:43] <DarkMage2303> If I change the format to ext3 will it delete everything off the hard drive?
[09:43] <xokadim> What Codig registertion mIRC?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> I could think of other things Ubuntu could need worse.
[09:43] <unop> DarkMage2303, yes
[09:43] <Tjbond> question,  is there a way to force reboot the computer.
[09:43] <zcat[1]_> Gin: he point is there's an excellend OS for running Windows programs already.. and it's not Linux
[09:43] <unop> !register | xokadim
[09:43] <DarkMage2303> HmmJ ok
[09:43] <Tjbond> for example, Ctrl alt del, for windows.
[09:43] <trupheenix> please help me with my wireless on Hardy. I have literally given up. it allows me to log in to certain routers while i get blocked on others :(
[09:43] <Gin> I couldn't start banshee because my disc was full and it took me a few seconds to figure out that my /home was full. But for an average jou he wil think that his system is broken
[09:43] <DarkMage2303> I have something taking up lots of space for no reason anyway
[09:43] <xokadim> What Codig registertion mIRC? Full name and registartion code
[09:43] <xokadim> What Codig registertion mIRC? Full name and registartion code..
[09:43] <xokadim> unop no no no nick
[09:43] <zcat[1]_> Gin: yep.. that one is a downer
[09:43] <xokadim> registration mIRC>.
[09:44] <xokadim> unop /registration
[09:44] <Dr_willis> xokadim,  err...  go somewhere else please
[09:44] <xokadim> what codig?
[09:44] <unop> xokadim, unfortunately we don't understand you .. what language do you speak?
[09:44] <zcat[1]_> !en
[09:44] <DarkMage2303> the code is 45645-4564564-4564648-456454
[09:44] <unop> DarkMage2303, don't antagonize him
[09:44] <xokadim> unop /registration
[09:44] <DarkMage2303> Aw :(
[09:44] <zcat[1]_> sorry.. was he speaking english?
[09:44] <xokadim> im comand registration mirc.
[09:44] <xokadim> :~~
[09:45]  * trupheenix needs help with his wireless intel prowireless 3945ABG
[09:45] <Dr_willis> Gin,  in a terminal try ---->    watch  df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[09:45] <Dr_willis> xokadim,  #1 - mirc has nothing to do with Ubuntu. #2 - we do not have pirate/hacked/warzed codes
[09:45] <Flannel> xokadim: mIRC isn't in Ubuntu, and we're not really sure what you're asking.  You are *probably* looking for another channel, at least.
[09:45] <unop> xokadim, ask in #mirc perhaps
[09:45] <Gin> Dr_willis, I don't have the time to sit here and watch it
[09:45] <Dr_willis> unop,  :)
[09:46] <Tjbond> how can i force my computer to restart
[09:46] <zcat[1]_> ... or #bsa
[09:46] <xokadim> no no brothers..
[09:46] <unop> Gin, install a desklets program then
[09:46] <xokadim> I would like to know the command register the purchase mirc
[09:46] <xokadim>   the command / registrarion
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Gin,   but its sooooo purty. :) handy when doing a lot of filecopies also to external devices that might be getting full also.
[09:46] <zcat[1]_> they're always helpful with reg codes..
[09:46] <Gin> Dr_willis, isn't ubuntu trying to eliminate the usage of the terminal?
[09:46] <unop> xokadim, we do not support mirc in here
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Gin,  Not that i am aware of.
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Gin,  the terminal is often the BEST tool for the job in many cases.
[09:46] <Flannel> xokadim: go to mirc.com, that should tell you.
[09:46] <Gin> Dr_willis, it's those small things that make windows userfriendly
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Gin,  even MS is bringing back the terminal in many ways..
[09:47] <Tjbond> . /nickserv register username password
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Gin,  i often find the lack of a decent  terminal makes windows UNfriendly
[09:47]  * trupheenix going mad with wireless on hardy
[09:47] <zcat[1]_> Gin: I've found that I can do basically everyting via the GUI, and i often walk newbies through doing hings that way if they're uncomfortable with the terminal.. but the terminal is generally the quickest way of doing things
[09:47] <Gin> Dr_willis, we're talking userfriendly for non-technical users
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Gin,  but this is a pointless debate. :) the 2 are different OS's and different tools.  Whats better.. a router, or a table saw... it all depends.
[09:47] <xokadim> No #mirc has only donkeys can not give support not know why, they use that channel! :)
[09:47] <xokadim> unop ok!
[09:48] <borbarella> Tjbond:p shutdown -r now
[09:48] <Tjbond> in terminal?
[09:48] <kaiwen> Tjbond
[09:48] <kaiwen> Tjbond reboot
[09:48] <geek_> hmm
[09:48] <borbarella> yes
[09:48] <trupheenix> me is :'(ing
[09:48] <kaiwen> Tjbond sudo reboot
[09:48] <kaiwen> lol
[09:48] <DarkMage2303> OKay now I get to backup Warcraft III/TFT, Halo, starcraft, world of warcraft/TBC, diablo II/LOD, All copies of windows vista (one .iso), windows xp home/pro,
[09:48] <xokadim> o #mirc has only donkeys can not give support not know why, they use that channel! :(
[09:48]  * trupheenix is :'( ing
[09:48] <Flannel> xokadim: Please stop it.
[09:48] <geek_> anyone know if gutsy has built in support for rt2500 network card?
[09:48] <Tjbond> would ctrl escape bring up a window
[09:48] <Tjbond> or something
[09:48] <xokadim> Flannel OK!
[09:48] <Tjbond> if my computer locked up
[09:49] <kaiwen> Tjbond gui or terminal?
[09:49] <Tjbond> i dont know, im wondering if my computer is locked up, if there is a way to restart it
[09:49] <Tjbond> without pressing the restart button on the actual pc. lol.
[09:49] <zcat[1]_> geek_: aboslutely, yes.. right off the live cd
[09:49] <kaiwen> Tjbond well, i doubt it'll lock up unless u really try to make it locked up
[09:49] <DarkMage2303> I was about to suggest the button :(
[09:50] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: the 'any' key?
[09:50] <kaiwen> Tjbond if the gui locks up you can go to terminal by ctrl+alt+f3
[09:50] <Tjbond> It already did lock up once :P
[09:50] <kaiwen> Tjbond login and then reboot from there
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Wheres the 'Any' Key?
[09:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:50] <kaiwen> Tjbond On GUI or Terminal? You never answered that question
[09:50] <DarkMage2303> Press any key to continue: "OMG WHERE IS THE ANY KEY!?!11"
[09:50] <Flannel> Tjbond: if ttys (ctrl-alt-F#) don't work, use REISUB
[09:50] <bazhang> !ot | DarkMage2303
[09:50] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,  'Error Keyboard not found: hit anykey to continue'
[09:50] <bazhang> DarkMage2303, please take chat elsewhere
[09:51] <DarkMage2303> k
[09:51] <Tjbond> okay flannel.
[09:51] <Tjbond> kaiwen, what do you mean? GUI or Terminal? lol
[09:51] <kaiwen> Tjbond like, is it on gnome or kde when it locks up?
[09:51] <DarkMage2303> I'll be in the offtopic channel
[09:51] <zcat[1]_> Most bioses it's "F1 to continue" ... right up there with the windows dialog about no mouse, and an OK button for you to click....
[09:51] <Tjbond> I was playing a game?
[09:51] <kaiwen> Tjbond so gui. Then do what i suggested, it'll go to terminal
[09:51] <Tjbond> okay lol
[09:51] <kaiwen> Tjbond once that goes to terminal, login and then type in sudo reboot
[09:52] <kaiwen> Tjbond or if you know the process of the game do a killall *gamename*
[09:52] <Tjbond> im new, i dont know these commands :P
[09:52] <zcat[1]_> Sorry.. wasn't following the whole discussion.. was ctrl-alt-backspace mentioned already?
[09:53] <kaiwen> Tjbond, well, u only asked to reboot w/o pressing the button
[09:53] <Tjbond> yep
[09:53] <kaiwen> zcat[1]_ that resets X
[09:53] <Tjbond> is there a way to change the network speed?
[09:53] <Tjbond> eg: from 100mb/s to 10mb/s
[09:54] <zcat[1]_> you would want to ?
[09:54] <unop> Tjbond, see the ethtool documentation
[09:54] <zcat[1]_> (but yes, there probably is)
[09:54] <Tjbond> lol, yes i would want to
[09:54] <DarkMage2303> How long do you guys think it will take to compress about 20 GB worth of data?
[09:54] <Tjbond> runs smoother on 10mb connection.
[09:54] <kaiwen> Tjbond man ethtool
[09:54] <eth01> 5 minutes for me
[09:55] <kaiwen> bye guyz, it's like two in teh morning here
[09:55] <kaiwen> time to sleep with beary
[09:55] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: about as long as it takes to suck through USB2 I think
[09:55] <Tjbond> where do i find ethtool lol
[09:55] <DarkMage2303> :(
[09:55] <kaiwen> Tjbond, wow
[09:55] <Tjbond> I tell ya, im new to linux
[09:55] <unop> DarkMage2303, that is so dependant on many factory, how fast your processor is, how much memory you have, how fast your harddisk access speeds are, etc
[09:55] <kaiwen> Tjbond go to terminal type in ethtool
[09:55] <Tjbond> i just installed it last night.
[09:55] <unop> s/factory/factors/
[09:55] <kaiwen> Tjbond, click applications, go to system go to terminal
[09:55] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: not that long, perhals a half hour or an hour at a wild guess
[09:56] <zcat[1]_> unop: I suspect mostly limited by it being a USB drive
[09:56] <kaiwen> bye@!
[09:56] <unop> zcat[1]_, and the compression tool and algorithm
[09:56] <DarkMage2303> I only have 1GB Ram D:
[09:56] <unop> zcat[1]_, which in turn depends on processing speeds too
[09:56] <fehrp> how much space in / (excluding /home) should be reserved for a standard desktop computer in GB?
[09:56] <zcat[1]_> unop: depends where the bottleneck is
[09:56] <Tjbond> ethtool    and run ethtool  doesnt work.
[09:57] <DarkMage2303> my computer is like 4 years old so I got it from my dads work for free :)
[09:57] <fehrp> I mean, what is a good size for the root partition?
[09:57] <unop> zcat[1]_, that's what i mean, the bottleneck could be anywhere .. there is no telling
[09:58] <unop> fehrp, depends, 2GB does me fine .. I'd say 10GB is more than safe
[09:58] <zcat[1]_> DarkMage2303: did you do tar -v so you have something to stare at?
[09:59] <DarkMage2303> man you guys have no idea how exciting it is watching 5 files which are all a few GB in size being archieved it
[09:59] <DarkMage2303> is
[09:59] <DarkMage2303> Seriously, It'll blow your mind
[09:59] <Dr_willis> DarkMage2303,   I perfer to watch source code compile......
[10:00] <Ab3L> hello
[10:00] <fehrp> unop, I have 36GB in total, I would like to keep it small
[10:00] <DarkMage2303> I like to watch paint dry too :)
[10:00] <Tjbond> argh
[10:00] <DarkMage2303> anyway I might as well try to setup Wine
[10:00] <Tjbond> ethtool -s 10       ??
[10:00] <Dr_willis> Tjbond,  why are you trying to slow down the network card?
[10:01] <zcat[1]_> fehrp: for small drives it's often best to just make the whole thing / and some swap... then you only run out whrn you really, completely run out...
[10:01] <DarkMage2303> I would prefer to spreed UP my network card..
[10:01] <Tjbond> because it runs smoother on 10mb connection, then it does with 100.
[10:01] <Vegombrei> basically i have 2 hdds one 250 and one 80 .. the 250 is primary sata and 80 being secondary .. the 250 has a partition with windows on it .. and when i installed ubuntu i dedicated the 80 gb to it .. now since i been using ubuntu since almost a month now i think windows is shit and wanna get rid of it .. how do i format the entire 250 and include it into ubuntu . mind you the 250 is the primary hdd so you think it'll boot from the other ???
[10:02] <Dr_willis> Tjbond,  that makes very little sence.   rember to use 'sudo' with ethtool, good luck.
[10:02] <Vegombrei> zcat[1]_: i dont wanna reinstall .. ive spent a lot of time tweaking ubuntu and dont think i can do it all over again
[10:02] <Tjbond> lol..
[10:02] <aperson> Vegombrei, use the livecd to manage your partitions
[10:02] <_hase> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 is there any reason my sound isn't working?
[10:02] <Dwarrelegel_> somebody here that has experience with GeForce2 Integrated Graphics [NVCrush11]? Any one that got it to work in ubuntu 8.04?
[10:03] <zcat[1]_> Vegombrei: hmmm.. ok. Open a terminal and I'll see what we can do with it..
[10:03] <_numbers_> how can i get youtube working ?
[10:03] <Vegombrei> zcat[1]_: open and waiting input
[10:03] <bazhang> _numbers_, did you install flash via synaptic?
[10:03] <_numbers_> no
[10:03] <zcat[1]_> Vegombrei: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:03] <unop> Vegombrei, it's as simple as reformatting the 250G partition
[10:03] <DarkMage2303> What folder does Ubuntu install files in? like on windows its the C:\Program Files\
[10:03] <bazhang> _numbers_, then that would help :)
[10:04] <DarkMage2303> or D:... depending on your drives
[10:04] <zcat[1]_> unop: and mounting it somewhere useful and removing the windows entry from grub
[10:04] <_numbers_> sudo install flash??
[10:04] <Ab3L> re
[10:04] <chris_goe> DarkMage2303: mostly in /usr
[10:04] <bazhang> _numbers_, open up synaptic and search for flash; you want the nonfree one
[10:04] <Kattman> How can I get Songbird to use flash ?
[10:05] <xokadim> where I think a channel of sex?
[10:05] <Pentarex> haha
[10:05] <fehrp> zcat[1]_: I now partitioned "/" with 8.5GB, I mean, this SHOULD be enough, don't you think?
[10:05] <unop> DarkMage2303, you can find out where a package puts its files .. dpkg -L packagename
[10:05] <mio> help! i've lost the ubuntu wiki "how to install" page
[10:05] <zcat[1]_> Vegombrei: somewhere down the bottom of that file there are three lines that are about booting windows .. you want to delete them (put te cursor on a line and ^k them)
[10:05] <Bodsda> !install | mio
[10:06] <zcat[1]_> actually unop  you want to handle this one, you think it should be really easy ;)
[10:06] <Dr_willis> fehrp,  depends on what you are doing.. that would not be big enough for me.. :) but it all depends.
[10:06] <unop> zcat[1]_, it is .. i don't see why it seems hard.
[10:06] <Dr_willis> fehrp,  for basic ussage. it should be.
[10:07] <zcat[1]_> Vegombrei: unop's going to help you .. I'm going to go watch TV ;)
[10:07] <Vegombrei> zcat[1]_: yes .. about the last 6 lines say somewhat similar to when its booting .. you want me to delete that ?
[10:07] <Ab3L> restart...
[10:08] <fehrp> Dr_willis: I mean, I will have only gnome, not kde. graphical apps, sure, but I mean, come on, 8Gig *g
[10:08] <Vegombrei> zcat[1]_: sure thanks bro
[10:08] <Dr_willis> fehrp,  i got 8+gb of wallpaper :)
[10:08] <unop> Vegombrei, actually, put the contents of that file up on a pastebin .. it's easier to know what exactly to delete then.
[10:08] <Dr_willis> fehrp,  as i said. it depends on your needs.
[10:08] <_numbers_> bazhang worked great thank you
[10:08] <Vegombrei> unop: so should i just delete all lines after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST  ??
[10:08] <fehrp> Dr_willis: why should they reside in the root partition rather than in /home?
[10:08] <bazhang> _numbers_, np :)
[10:08] <fehrp> wtf
[10:09] <bazhang> fehrp, please dont use acronyms such as that
[10:09] <unop> Vegombrei, no, paste the contents of the file .. and i'll let you know
[10:09] <Dr_willis> fehrp,  i dont bother with a seperate /home in many of my machines.. I do use vmware on my server a lot that takes up a lot of space in / also.  Do it depends.
[10:09] <Fructose> I just installed Ubuntu alternate and am having a hardware problem. Is there any way to figure out if I installed 8.04 as opposed to 8.04.1?
[10:09] <Bodsda> fehrp, your personal settings reside in /home -- this split is usefull for having home and root on seperate partitions for easy re-installation
[10:09] <fehrp> sorry :) yeah, I won't use vmware
[10:10] <Dr_willis> fehrp,  i also have  NFS home i can use.. so it all depends on what you are doing.  You can always move things around later
[10:10] <Vegombrei> unop: ok hold on
[10:10] <Bodsda> what is 8.04.1 ?
[10:10] <fehrp> Bodsda: i know, that's why I'm doing it
[10:10] <Fructose> Bodsda: A release of Ubuntu
[10:10] <bazhang> the point update
[10:10] <fehrp> Dr_willis: i just think, seperate /home safes time, if you want to change to another distro. eg.
[10:10] <Dr_willis> we dont use the term 'service pack 1 ubuntu'
[10:10] <Bodsda> bazhang, whats a point update, is this an lts special thing?
[10:10] <geek_> Fructose: they are about the same. i think updating normally should fix it
[10:11] <Fructose> geek_: That wasn't my question.
[10:11] <geek_> Bodsda: pretty much a rerelease with newer packages
[10:11] <bazhang> Bodsda, all the bug fixes most up to date etc; an lts thing iirc
[10:11] <Dr_willis> fehrp,  i rarely change. :)  and ive seen some disrtos have issues with sharing of /home somthing to watch out for.
[10:11] <Bodsda> geek_, ok cheers
[10:11] <Fructose> geek_: My hardware problem happens to be network-related, so an update isn't even an option.
[10:12] <geek_> Fructose: i'm on 8.04.. maybe lsb_release -r might be enlightening...
[10:13] <Fructose> geek_: 8.04... problem is I don't know for certain what they would have changed for 8.04, since it's not a full release
[10:13] <Fructose> *for 8.04.1
[10:13] <geek_> Fructose: true
[10:14]  * geek_ is sure he's had at least one kernel update
[10:14] <Vegombrei> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/37931/
[10:15] <Flannel> Fructose, geek_: installing 8.04 and then updating completely is the same as installing 8.04.1 and updating completely (if it were the day 8.04.1 was released, an updated 8.04 would be identical)
[10:16] <geek_> Flannel: in which case.. he could check his kernel?
[10:16] <geek_> since my system is up to date, and i recall one kernel update
[10:16] <geek_> Fructose: try uname -r
[10:17] <Fructose> 2.6.24-16
[10:17] <Flannel> yeah, uname -a will give you your kernel version, what is it?
[10:17] <Vegombrei> unop: did you see the paste ?
[10:17] <geek_> Fructose: hmm, likely the older one, mine's on 2.6.24-19
[10:17] <Flannel> Fructose: Do you have linux-generic installed?
[10:17] <DarkMage2303> Mmm
[10:18] <Fructose> Flannel: Yes
[10:18] <Flannel> Fructose: Alright, do you have hardy-updates and hardy-security enabled?
[10:19] <Fructose> Flannel: How is that relevant?
[10:19] <Flannel> Fructose: (if you want, pastebin your sources.list, and I'll take a look)
[10:19] <DarkMage2303> Is the security.. very handy?
[10:19] <DarkMage2303> :
[10:19] <DarkMage2303> )
[10:19] <Flannel> Fructose: because thats where updates come from
[10:19] <DarkMage2303> :)
[10:19] <FloodBot1> DarkMage2303: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:19] <echo6> anyone here compiling their own kernels, I have a quick question regarding /lib/firmware?
[10:19] <Fructose> Flannel: Perhaps you weren't following the conversation. I'm having network hardware problems.
[10:19] <bazhang> DarkMage2303, this is not the chat channel
[10:20] <Fructose> Flannel: I want to know if I have 8.04.1 in case it might fix this problem.
[10:20] <Flannel> Fructose: Running an old kernel *could* be causing it.  Being up to date is a good starting point, at any rate.
[10:20] <geek_> Fructose: well, it really depends on what the issue is, specifically, and if its a known one...
[10:21] <Fructose> geek_: Kernel panic when I plug in a PCMCIA card
[10:21] <Vegombrei> unop: ?
[10:21] <echo6> Fructose: might be irq allocation problem
[10:23] <havocstorm> wtf is with nbc and cnn
[10:23] <Fructose> echo6: It might be a lot of things
[10:23] <havocstorm> why do they require windows media player and windows to run
[10:24] <unop> Vegombrei, sorry, had to do something .. delete everything after line 170
[10:24] <Fructose> havocstorm: Because they're evil. Get used to it.
[10:24] <echo6> Fructose: Indeed, I only mention that because it was something I used to experience on an old Dell laptop, and the fix was to supply some modprobe options when loading up the module
[10:25] <havocstorm> Fructose, lets brezak into their headquarters and sneak ubuntu onto everything
[10:25] <geek_> Fructose: what happens if you boot up with it in it?
[10:25] <havocstorm> then set whine on start-up
[10:25] <havocstorm> so they don't notice
[10:25] <whitedox> hi. Anybody got a link to a free stream of anything? (testing MMS thing).
[10:25] <Vegombrei> unop: you sure about this right ? if i boot my machine it will boot from the secondary drive and into ubuntu ?
[10:25] <Fructose> geek_: Kernel panic
[10:25] <_hase> Ok, so I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop and I can't get my sound to work, I have a  Intel Corporation 82801H soundcard
[10:26] <unop> Vegombrei, yes, i am.
[10:27] <geek_> Fructose: well what happens with other PCIMCIA cards?
[10:27] <Vegombrei> unop: done .. deleted and saved file !
[10:27] <Fructose> geek_: I don't have any others at the moment
[10:27] <unop> Vegombrei, when you are done with this .. you need to reformat the 250GB partition (i'm assuming it is /dev/sda1 .. but do verify) with   sudo mkfs.ext3 -L "label you want" /dev/sda1  # beware there is no going back from this, you lose windows entirely
[10:28] <_numbers_> whats the best wine to install
[10:28] <Vegombrei> unop: how do i check if its sda1 or 0 ?
[10:29] <unop> Vegombrei, examine the output of   sudo fdisk -l
[10:29] <echo6> Fructose: Does it give any error message before kernel_panic?
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> _numbers_: the one you get when you do sudo apt-get install wine
[10:29] <Fructose> echo6: It spits out a lot of stuff. I've already Googled for it.
[10:29] <_numbers_> thank you
[10:29] <unop> Vegombrei, actually .. it probably is better if you use gparted for this .. it will set the appropriate partition type, etc
[10:30] <whitedox> Kind of new to ubuntu..Where do I find sources.list?
[10:30] <unop> Vegombrei, you might need to install gparted if it isn't already installed
[10:30] <unop> whitedox, /etc/apt/
[10:30] <afallenhope> hey what's the three things you need to install? build-essential.. and what was the others?
[10:30] <whitedox> thanks
[10:30] <Vegombrei> unop:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/37934/
[10:30] <jshriver> greetings
[10:30] <jshriver> any vim ppl here? need help
[10:30] <Fructose> jshriver: You know about #vim right?
[10:30] <jshriver> nope sorry
[10:31] <Abhay> ya tell me
[10:31] <jshriver> but my question is ubunto specific it seems
[10:31] <Abhay> JShriver
[10:31] <jshriver> basically... when I run vim/vi
[10:31] <Vegombrei> unop: dude may i pvt msg ya ?
[10:31] <jshriver> and try to arrow up/down/left/right
[10:31] <unop> Vegombrei, looks like the first disk has two partitions .. do you want to keep the disk partitioned, or consolidate everything?
[10:31] <jshriver> I get C and some weird characters
[10:31] <afallenhope> anyone?
[10:31] <jshriver> arrow keys dont work
[10:31] <jshriver> but every other vi I've tried allows me to use arrow keys
[10:31] <jshriver> any tips?
[10:31] <unop> Vegombrei, you may, but it's better if we keep the conversation here, other people can contribute and learn.
[10:32] <Vegombrei> unop: i wanna wipe out everything from the first disk ... ubuntu is on the second disk
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> jshriver: install vim, not vi
[10:32] <afallenhope> hey I can't get vmware to install.. says somethign about my modules? anyone know?
[10:32] <afallenhope> !vmware
[10:32] <jshriver> ok let me check
[10:32] <Vegombrei> unop: wanna make it one single 250 gb hdd
[10:32] <Fructose> jshriver: That's not Ubuntu-specific. Some versions of vi/vim do not use the arrow keys. You use hjkl instead
[10:32] <geek_> afallenhope: to do what?
[10:32] <afallenhope> geek_, just the three basics..
[10:32] <unop> Vegombrei, ok, use gparted then .. delete both the partitions and format the resulting one
[10:32] <jshriver> What is the diff
[10:32] <unop> Vegombrei, let me know when you are done with this.
[10:33] <unop> !info gparted | Vegombrei
[10:33] <geek_> afallenhope: er... the ability to compile isn't 'basic' ;p
[10:33] <daftpunk> Would somebody know how to change MAC address in ubuntu?
[10:33] <Vegombrei> unop: im a noob .. doono what gparted is dude
[10:33] <geek_> Vegombrei: its like partition magic
[10:33] <Dr_willis> daftpunk,  i think the ifconfig, or ethtool  tool can do that.. (but ive never done so)
[10:33] <Vegombrei> geek_: ah ok .. how do i get it ?
[10:33] <unop> Vegombrei,  it's a GUI tool that helps you with partitioning and formatting etc .. quite intuitive
[10:33] <daftpunk> thank you
[10:33] <geek_> Vegombrei: its on the live disk
[10:33] <daftpunk> I'll try that
[10:34] <holycow> daftpunk: macchanger
[10:34] <unop> Vegombrei, sudo aptitude install gparted
[10:34] <Vegombrei> unop: can i sudo apt-get install gparted ??
[10:34] <holycow> you will haveto add it to interfaces to make it stick after reboot
[10:34] <unop> Vegombrei, you can yes, to the same effect
[10:34] <Fructose> daftpunk: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu.html
[10:35] <daftpunk> thanks man
[10:35] <Vegombrei> unop: done ..
[10:35] <jshriver> thanks that worked
[10:35] <unop> Vegombrei, finished formatting already?
[10:35] <Vegombrei> unop: lemme run gparted and see if i can figure it out
[10:35] <unop> Vegombrei, ok
[10:36] <cs02rm0> has anyone ever seen grub seem to be shifted halfway down the screen with the bottom wrapped back down from the top before?
[10:37] <holycow> yes
[10:37] <tymchn> how can I create a raid device with the "desktop" install iso?
[10:37] <holycow> thats an x bug
[10:37] <cs02rm0> do you know of a fix?
[10:38] <holycow> move2 your mouse to the edge and over it will realign it self
[10:38] <holycow> restart gdm, my fix id to drop gnome and use kde
[10:38] <holycow> i have no idea if there is a real fix
[10:38] <Vegombrei> unop: ok i can see the partitions of drive 1 in gparted .. should i just select all and delete ?
[10:39] <cs02rm0> x isn't running by the time grub is though is it?
[10:39] <unop> Vegombrei, that's the idea .. though you might have to delete each one individually first
[10:40] <DistroJockey> cs02rm0, nope. Try the auto sync button on your LCD or adjust it manually
[10:40] <whitedox> Any hopes of something that can play DRM'd content without dual booting windows/vmwaring?
[10:40] <Vegombrei> unop: i deleted the fat32 partition and now it wont let me delete the ntfs
[10:40] <cs02rm0> DistroJockey: even if once X is up everything's positioned fine?
[10:41] <afallenhope> hey having an issue installing VMware says osmething about modules not being suitable.. what do I have to install again?
[10:41] <geek_> afallenhope: hmm any-any patch?
[10:41] <DistroJockey> cs02rm0, they are different video modes. Auto sync will sync per resolution
[10:42] <DjViper> afallenhope: vmware any-any update
[10:42] <cs02rm0> DistroJockey: ok, thanks, i'll give that whirl later
[10:42] <Vegombrei> unop: wont even let me delete the extended
[10:42] <DistroJockey> cs02rm0, you're welcome
[10:42] <afallenhope> DjViper, please elabl on that
[10:42] <DjViper> afallenhope: just google it, so you get the latest v.
[10:42] <afallenhope> I do
[10:42] <afallenhope> It has to do with somehting about the modules not being compatible with my kernel
[10:43] <havocstorm> hey guys
[10:43] <DarkMage2303> Ahh I'm gonna hop off IRC.
[10:43] <unop> Vegombrei, you might need to apply this action first, let it delete the first partition before you can move on to the second
[10:43] <havocstorm> My firefox crashes alot when loading flash video
[10:43] <SmileyTSL> Hi, i've started using Windows XP through Sun xVirtualBox and just now, when I tried to plug in my iPod touch to work with iTunes, both Ubuntu and Windows recognized it as a "digital camera". Could I resolve this in any way? I don't want to dual-boot to sync my iPod, i'll switch back to Windows if it doesn't work.
[10:43] <havocstorm> any idea how to fix that
[10:43] <DarkMage2303> only 9:43 PM for me but I'm bored on here
[10:43] <SmileyTSL> @Havocstorm: Try installing Flash 10. I used to have that problem with Flash 9.
[10:43] <DistroJockey> cs02rm0, sometimes EDID will confuse X but that is separate from the grub screen issue
[10:43] <havocstorm> where can I install that
[10:43] <SmileyTSL> Flash 9 makes Firefox freeze and possibly crash sometimes.
[10:43] <havocstorm> Repositories or website download?
[10:44] <SmileyTSL> Just a sec, i'll look for the exact URL...
[10:44] <havocstorm> thanks
[10:45] <SmileyTSL> Here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_linux_081108.tar.gz
[10:45] <Vegombrei> unop: i applied it and it refreshed and deleted the fat32 but still wont give me an option to delete the ntfs and ext
[10:45] <Niohoggr> hi
[10:45] <SmileyTSL> @Havocstorm: Here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_linux_081108.tar.gz
[10:45] <Niohoggr> Please
[10:45] <Niohoggr> would someone help me?
[10:46] <SmileyTSL> (Forgot the @something)
[10:46] <hiptobecubic> I'm trying to patch pidgin, but it seems like the pidgin that installs from the repos doesn't have the same tree structure as if it had been compiled locally. Forexample, where is switchboard.o ?
[10:46] <havocstorm> thanks
[10:46] <Slart> Niohoggr: just ask your question
[10:46] <havocstorm> SmileyTSL, thanks man
[10:46] <Niohoggr> I have installed an ATi diver that - I assume - Synaptic found for my x1650
[10:46] <SmileyTSL> @Havocstorm: Be sure to use Terminal to install this version.
[10:46] <DistroJockey> havocstorm, 10 will probably be the same as 9 in your situation. It's a bug in Firefox 3.0.1 that should be fixed in 3.0.2
[10:46] <Niohoggr> and now, it shows only a white blank screen when logging into the last session
[10:47] <ilian> is flash 10 stable saw that is beta
[10:47] <SmileyTSL> @DistroJockey: Nope, I had that issue and it resolved itself when I switch to 10.
[10:47] <Niohoggr> why? And how can I change that?
[10:47] <Mythril> I'm trying to recover data off of an old system, how do I mount my ext3 partition so that I can read all of the files?
[10:47] <SmileyTSL> *switched
[10:47] <havocstorm> SmileyTSL, uh... downloading doesn't work?
[10:47] <unop> Vegombrei, try deleting the partition from the command line with.  sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[10:47] <unop> Vegombrei, make sure you close gparted first tho
[10:47] <SmileyTSL> And yes, 10 is very stable.
[10:47] <hiptobecubic> ilian, i'm using flash 10 right now, it's more stable than 9 for me. 9 crashes constantly
[10:48] <Niohoggr> Soo... any ideas on my problem?
[10:48] <havocstorm> DistroJockey, any idea when 3.0.2 is coming out?
[10:48] <DistroJockey> SmileyTSL, ahh, ok. I recently tried Intrepid with FF 3.0.1 and install flash 10 and it crashed straight away. Where as Hardy with FF 3.0.1 with flash 9 works fine for me
[10:48] <SmileyTSL> (Erm, Pidgin disconnected for no reason. Weird.)
[10:48] <Vegombrei> unop: done .. it let me delete it ..
[10:48] <DistroJockey> havocstorm, not really, but it can't be far away
[10:48] <SmileyTSL> Ah, ok. Maybe it's system-specific.
[10:49] <prabu> hi
[10:49] <ilian> havocstorm: 10x
[10:49] <Vegombrei> unop: should i quite cfdisk ? or should i create a new partition ?
[10:49] <whitedox> Anyone know how well mirc runs under wine? lol
[10:49] <afallenhope> hey vmware won't start.. anyone know as to why? says I have to reconfigure it but each time I do that it doesn't work.
[10:49] <Vegombrei> unop: should i quit cfdisk ? or should i create a new partition ?
[10:49] <unop> Vegombrei, create a new partition
[10:49] <Slart> whitedox: it works quite nicely afaik
[10:50] <prabu> how to use yahoo mesenger ?
[10:50] <SmileyTSL> Anywho, anybody have any ideas on my problem? Both Windows (in VirtualBox) and Ubuntu say my iPod touch is a "digital camera" and I can't work it with iTunes. :-/
[10:50] <Niohoggr> ...well?
[10:50] <DistroJockey> prabu, Pidgin will do that. Find it in  Applications - Internet
[10:51] <Vegombrei> unop: primary or logical ?
[10:51] <Niohoggr> How can I get the driver to work or at least to let me log in and see ?
[10:51] <Slart> !patience | Niohoggr
[10:51] <unop> Vegombrei, primary
[10:51] <choongii> when choosing encrypted partitions during the installation, using dm-crypt, is it possible to generate a keyfile instead of using a passphrase? the official docs mention only passphrases and one-time-keys..
[10:51] <prabu> yes . i hav pidgin . dont know how to use tat
[10:52] <Vegombrei> unop: bootable ?
[10:52] <Slart> Niohoggr: just wait a while... repeat your question every 5 minutes or so
[10:52] <Niohoggr> I know, I just need the answer badly
[10:52] <prabu> for yahoo
[10:52] <msegeya> how to get started with the xchat
[10:53] <Vegombrei> unop: should i select the bootable option or maximixe ?
[10:53] <msegeya> ioin
[10:53] <unop> Vegombrei, no need for bootable
[10:53] <msegeya> join
[10:53] <Gin> what tool to use to take parts out of a mp3 file?
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> afallenhope: did you install a new kernel?
[10:53] <msegeya> yes
[10:53] <unop> Vegombrei, if by maximize you mean, allocate as much space as possible, yes
[10:53] <DistroJockey> prabu, add a Yahoo account from the add account menu. I would be more precise but my Pidgin won't start anymore :(
[10:53] <Dr_willis> Gin,  ive used audacity (sp?) i think but it converted them,  to wav, and then worked on the, I belive.
[10:54] <SmileyTSL> Well, thanks anyway everyone. I'll just go on and switch back to Windows. I don't want a $500 paper-weight. :-S Bye all. :)
[10:54] <Dr_willis> Gin,  had to make the wife some ringtones a few months back.
[10:54] <Gin> Dr_willis, can it output mp3?
[10:54] <msegeya> how to install mysql
[10:54] <Dr_willis> Gin,  it can save to mp3 yes.
[10:54] <prabu> thanks distr . i will try tat
[10:55] <Slart> !info mp3splt
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> msegeya: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:55] <DistroJockey> prabu, ahh, it's Accounts - Protocol
[10:55] <afallenhope> fyrestrtr, no. it's a fresh install...
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> !vmware | afallenhope
[10:56] <msegeya> how to delete files in a directory
[10:56] <DocMabuse> hello anybody knows a free alternative to Flash Cs???
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> msegeya: rm
[10:56] <DocMabuse> for programming
[10:56] <Vegombrei> unop: well it gave me only a few options after i said create new partition .. bootable maximize delete etc .. when i highlight maximize it says maximize disk usage (only for expert users) im not an expert :(
[10:57] <MikeSeth> Vegombrei: what's the question?
[10:57] <DocMabuse> hello anybody knows a free alternative to Flash Cs???
[10:57] <prabu> it asks screen name n password . wats tat ?
[10:57] <Slart> DocMabuse: I don't think there is anything similar for linux.. that I know of at least
[10:57] <msegeya> how to get .Net frame work for ubuntu?
[10:57] <Slart> !mono | msegeya
[10:57] <Slart> !info mono
[10:57] <MikeSeth> DocMabuse: what's Flash C?
[10:57] <Slart> bah
[10:57] <DocMabuse> and what can ido for installing Flash?
[10:58] <DocMabuse> S3
[10:58] <MikeSeth> DocMabuse: there are several flash clients in ubuntu
[10:58] <Slart> msegeya: take a look at mono.. it's supposed to be another implementation of .net
[10:58] <unop> Vegombrei, you could quite cfdisk here and continue on in gparted
[10:58] <msegeya> how to use gimp?
[10:58] <tim__> is there something like daemon tools for ubuntu? because i have an iso here and don't know how to run it
[10:58] <MikeSeth> tim__: mount -o loop, please google
[10:58] <Slart> !mountiso | tim__
[10:58] <MikeSeth> DocMabuse: please don't /msg me thanks
[10:58] <Slart> msegeya: start it.. click around?
[10:59] <Vegombrei> unop: dude i havent created that new partition yet
[10:59] <msegeya> how to check server address
[11:00] <unop> Vegombrei, that's ok, you can create one and format it in gparted
[11:00] <Slart> msegeya: do you do anything but ask simple 6 word questions?
[11:00] <Niohoggr> I have a more complicated question here
[11:00] <Slart> Niohoggr: no answer on the ati problem yet?
[11:01] <Niohoggr> Nope :(
[11:01] <drezard> I cant get higher Screen res's then 1280 x 800... how do I get 1680 x 1050 enabled?
[11:01] <dns53> msegeya ifconfig will show you your current address, so will network manager
[11:01] <zcat[1]_> i are back
[11:01] <Vegombrei> unop: wierd thing ... cfdisk showed me it deleted the partitions ... gparted shows them and still wont let me delete
[11:01] <choongii> does ubuntu's installer use cryptsetup-luks ?
[11:02] <msegeya> installing package from cdrom
[11:02] <Niohoggr> Damn, I really wanted to have linux, especially Ubuntu 8.04 on my pc and later my laptop but... If it's this tacky, I might as well get back to winxp
[11:02] <Dr_willis> Vegombrei,  some times ive had to reboot to let the system see partion changes. (not as common noa days, but ive had to do so in the past)
[11:02] <DistroJockey> Niohoggr, I havn't seen your issue with ati yet. Could you please restate the problem?
[11:02] <Niohoggr> So
[11:02] <unop> Vegombrei, are you sure you deleted the partition in cfdisk?
[11:03] <brylie> how do I make it so alt-dragging will not drag my application window?
[11:03] <Slart> msegeya: where are you from?
[11:03] <Vegombrei> unop: yes
[11:03] <hiptobecubic> I'm trying to patch pidgin, but it seems like the pidgin that installs from the repos doesn't have the same tree structure as if it had been compiled locally. Is the ubuntu package somehow different?