[02:18] <elopio> hey ralsina_, should I set the issues fixed on this beta release as "Fix released"?
[02:18] <ralsina_> elopio: good question :-)
[02:18] <ralsina_> ask tomorrow, dobey or nessita will know better
[02:18] <ralsina_> I suspect only on a "final" release
[02:19] <elopio> ralsina_, ok, I will.
[02:19] <ralsina_> BTW: thanks for all the testing :-D
[06:39] <lauratika> hi everyone i have a question i have some folders in ubuntu one in sync... but just some of them show a green tick  is there a way to have all folders in sync show green tick like ubuntu one folder
[06:39] <lauratika> ?
[08:14] <karni> Good morning!
[08:21] <JamesTait> Good morning, everyone! :-D
[11:20] <nessita> hello everyone!
[11:22] <gatox> nessita, hi
[11:22] <nessita> gatox: hi there, how are you feeling today?
[11:22] <gatox> nessita, much better
[11:22] <gatox> nessita, and i have some reviews, and i'm finishing other branches :P
[11:23] <mandel> gatox, I forgot to ask, how is everything :P
[11:23]  * mandel has been battling with the zop test runner
[11:23] <gatox> mandel, jeje fine! you?? new home?
[11:23] <mandel> gatox, well since sunday :)
[11:24] <mandel> gatox, but I have not had time to unpack hehe
[11:24] <gatox> mandel, :P
[11:25]  * mandel goes back to fight with zope? oh man I hate it
[11:26] <nessita> gatox: shoot the reviews, I'll queue them up
[11:27] <gatox> nessita, i'll recommend this order:  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/err-dict  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/err-dict  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/847796
[11:27] <nessita> gatox: ack
[11:40] <mandel> nessita, gatox do you guys have experience with zope.testrunner?
[11:41] <gatox> mandel, nop here
[11:41] <nessita> mandel: a little, what's wrong?
[11:42] <mandel> nessita,  I wanted to split some tests in pykeyring because it looked terrible and now the runner does not longer find them, the code is here: https://bitbucket.org/mandel/python-keyring-skip-platform-tests
[11:43] <nessita> mandel: looking
[11:43] <mandel> nessita, you have to bootstrap the code etc.. that is not in the docs so I made a diff branch to add that to the README here: https://bitbucket.org/mandel/python-keyring-lib-extra-readme/overview
[11:43] <nessita> mandel: show me the diff of your changes so I don't have to clone the repo
[11:43] <nessita> mandel: anyways, is it absolutely necessary to split that?
[11:43] <mandel> nessita, sure, on it
[11:44] <mandel> nessita, https://bitbucket.org/mandel/python-keyring-skip-platform-tests/compare/..kang/python-keyring-lib
[11:44] <mandel> nessita, well, is no 100% needed we can go without it, is just a matter of doing things right
[11:45] <nessita> mandel: I'm 110% of doing things right in places where we have control and freedom to choose. If this is giving you too much of a headhache, I'm not sure is worth it. Looking at the diff now!
[11:46] <nessita> mandel: is the keyring/tests/backend/__init__.py yours?
[11:47] <nessita> mandel: ping
[11:47] <mandel> nessita, yes
[11:47] <nessita> mandel: all that is not pep8 and all, is that intended?
[11:47] <mandel> nessita, is a rename of test_backends.py, I have not gotten into improving code style :P
[11:47] <nessita> ok
[11:48] <mandel> nessita, hg mv is an hg add + hg remove
[11:48] <mandel> not tool cool...
[11:48] <mandel> too*
[11:49] <nessita> mandel: so, I'm not 100% sure but I think you need to define test suites and the __main__ part juts like what you have in lines 149-162
[11:49] <nessita> mandel: seems like the zope test runner does not do autodiscovery
[11:49] <mandel> nessita,you might have nailed it, let me try that :D
[11:55] <nessita> gatox: while you fix the bug you're working on (setup account can be clicked with no data)
[11:56] <nessita> gatox: please also fix a new critical I just assigned to you (name field should be required)
[11:56] <gatox> nessita, i already fix that
[11:56] <gatox> nessita, is one of the branches i gave you
[11:56] <nessita> gatox: ah, ok. So, news: I just assigned a Critical to you :-D
[11:56] <gatox> nessita, jeje ok
[12:04] <mandel>  nessita I'm talking with benji about this issue, he's the maintainer
[12:04] <nessita> mandel: which channel? if you need I can jump in
[12:05] <mandel> nessita, no worries I'm asking for some help and since he is from canonical we are cool :P
[12:05] <nessita> gatox:     177:  [C0111, SetupAccountPage.set_error_message] Missing docstring
[12:05] <gatox> nessita, what?..... i thought i added that.....
[12:05] <nessita> gatox: maybe a missing push?
[12:05] <nessita> gatox: this is the installer branch
[12:08] <gatox> nessita, done...... waiting for launchpad to rescan it
[12:35] <ralsina> Good morning!
[12:35] <mandel> ralsina, morning
[12:35] <ralsina> hello mandel
[12:36] <mandel> ralsina, do you have any experience with the bloody zope.test runner?
[12:36] <ralsina> mandel: how's keryring coming along?
[12:36] <ralsina> Not the slightlest experience, no
[12:37] <mandel> ralsina, I'm fighting with that? the bloody runner does not want to load my tests :(
[12:37] <mandel> that is why I was asking..
[12:37] <ralsina> mandel: have the branch somewhere visible?
[12:39] <mandel> ralsina, the one with a small step I'm trying to do is here: https://bitbucket.org/mandel/python-keyring-skip-platform-tests
[12:39] <mandel> ralsina, diff is https://bitbucket.org/mandel/python-keyring-skip-platform-tests/compare/..kang/python-keyring-lib
[12:39] <ralsina> mandel: looking
[12:39] <nessita> mandel: did you try what I suggested?
[12:40] <mandel> ralsina, if I do bint/test --list-tests they do not appear
[12:40] <mandel> nessita, yes I did, no luck
[12:40] <ralsina> ok, hg-branching
[12:40] <mandel> nessita, the idea was to add a test_suit method that returns a TestSuit with the tests, right?
[12:41] <nessita> mandel:  and ALSO run unittest.main with that test suite
[12:41] <nessita> mandel: see lines 161 and 162
[12:41] <nessita> mandel: did you add that as well?
[12:41] <nessita> ralsina: I reviewed all your branches, and reply to mine
[12:42] <ralsina> nessita: I replied to your comments, am reading your reply :-)
[12:42] <mandel> nessita, let me take a look
[12:42] <mandel> nessita, yes, I did that too? let me try again maybe I fucked it up
[12:43] <nessita> mandel: so, try that one more time, and I'd say stop trying to make things more pretty and just add the tests "we" need
[12:44] <ralsina> nessita: thanks for the answer, +1
[12:47] <mandel> I need 5 min, I'll be back
[12:52] <ralsina> alecu, mandel, nessita, gatox, dobey: standup in 8'
[12:52] <gatox> ralsina, ack
[12:53] <XGaryG> I have my TomBoy notes set to sync thru Ubuntu One. Now every time I start Ubuntu One the CouchDB crashes.
[12:55] <XGaryG> Is there a known fix for this?
[12:57] <dobey> XGaryG: are you on oneiric?
[12:57] <XGaryG> Yes, I am.
[12:57] <nessita> gatox: can you please do, when you have a free moment, the review I asked by email?
[12:58] <mandel> ralsina, nessita I think I'm missing a __main__.py since its a pacakage
[12:58] <nessita> mandel: you mean __init__.py?
[12:58] <gatox> nessita, which e-mail?? do you remember the subject?
[12:58] <nessita> gatox: "review wanted"
[12:59] <gatox> nessita, ok..... i'll do it after the standup
[12:59] <dobey> XGaryG: couchdb is known broken on oneiric at the moment. there are a couple of proposed fixes, but i don't think either fix has made it in yet as they are still in discussion about which to use
[12:59] <nessita> gatox: ack
[12:59] <XGaryG> OK. Thanks. Was afraid it was something I did.
[13:00] <mandel> nessita, no, I did mean __main__.py
[13:00] <nessita> mandel: there is no such thing
[13:01] <nessita> mandel: why would you add a file named __main__?
[13:01] <nessita> me
[13:01] <dobey> XGaryG: nope. unfortunately, everyone on oneiric who wants to use ubuntu one is seeing it :-/
[13:01] <mandel> nessita, there is, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4042905/what-is-main-py
[13:01] <gatox> me
[13:01] <mandel> me
[13:02] <ralsina> me
[13:03] <dobey> me
[13:03] <nessita> mandel: we surely don't need that, not even for zope test runner
[13:03] <ralsina> alecu, standup?
[13:04] <ralsina> nessita: go
[13:04] <mandel> nessita, I;m trying, it that does not work, I'll give up and will simply send a fixed branch to ralsina
[13:04] <nessita> DONE: testing with clean installs, bug triage, submitted branches for bug #838993, bug #806154, bug #800705
[13:04] <nessita> TODO: bug triage and reviews, there are a lot!
[13:04] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[13:04] <nessita> NEXT: gatox
[13:04] <ralsina> mandel: run the tests with nose?
[13:04] <gatox> DONE:
[13:04] <gatox> Bug #845083, Bug #845735, Bug #847796, Bug #845750, Bug #848483
[13:04] <gatox> TODO:
[13:04] <gatox> More ui Bugs.
[13:04] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:04] <gatox> No
[13:04] <gatox> mandel go
[13:04] <XGaryG> They should make it pretty high priority to fix. It is a main selling point on the home page.
[13:04] <mandel> DONE: Errands from yesterday took longer than expected. Proposed pull for pykeyring. Worked on tests for pykeyring so that the can be ran in all platforms nicely.
[13:04] <mandel> TODO: Propose fix for XP once the tests are fixed, if not will send a branch to ralsina so that he can make the package.
[13:04] <mandel> BLOCKED: A little with zope.test_runner.
[13:04] <mandel> next, ralsina!
[13:04] <nessita> mandel: we already agreed you had to stop a few minutes ago! :-)
[13:04] <ralsina> DONE: (long) tech leads call, bug triaging, reviews, proposed branches for "invalid mode qt in uninstaller" and "new UDFs should be selected by default on installer", merged most of the pending branches, small packaging fixes.
[13:04] <ralsina> TODO: merge "add_install_option", fix more bugs, see if I should take over "there is a new version" from mandel, followup "wizard doesn't start" with elopio, decide if I do a release today.
[13:04] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[13:04] <ralsina> dobey?
[13:04] <dobey> λ DONE: started on bug #848067 and bug #842614
[13:04] <dobey> λ TODO: finish aforementioned bugs, bug #840072, bug #838778, get stuff off CD
[13:04] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[13:05] <dobey> uh, alecu?
[13:05] <ralsina> mandel: did you manage to run the tests manually at all? If yes, then by all means send me the branch and move onto the "detecting new versions" stuff
[13:05]  * mandel lunch
[13:06] <nessita> mandel: wait!
[13:06] <nessita> mandel: let's define your tasks
[13:06] <mandel> nessita, what?
[13:06] <mandel> now? tell me
[13:06] <nessita> mandel: since you seem to be blocked for much more time that we can afford :-)
[13:06] <nessita> mandel: did you read ralsina's comment?
[13:07] <mandel> nessita, yes, I'll send the branch to him for the new release, that is not a problem
[13:07] <XGaryG> Is there a specific channel for Oneiric questions?
[13:07] <mandel> I just want to make sure we get this in trunk in pykeyring
[13:07] <nessita> mandel: ok, then we need you to start ASAP with the 'there is a new release' task
[13:07] <ralsina> mandel: maybe you can ask for help from them in their own schedule about the test runner
[13:08] <nessita> mandel: why don't you add  the new test in the same file?
[13:09] <mandel> nessita, yes, \i can do that, don't worry in an hour you will have the new version
[13:09] <dobey> XGaryG: #ubuntu is for general ubuntu questions
[13:09] <nessita> mandel: an hour?!?!?!
[13:09] <nessita> :-D
[13:10] <mandel> yes, lunch :P
[13:20] <dobey> ugh
[13:20] <alecu> nessita, ralsina: sorry, I was afk because Amelia woke up. I'm taking her to kinder and I'll be back in 30'. At what time are we having the mumble meeting?
[13:20] <dobey> control panel makes my gtk3reactor segfault :(
[13:20] <ralsina> alecu: today chipaca and I have management call (in 10 minutes) so it's at least not until 40 minutes from now
[13:20] <gatox> nessita, +1
[13:21] <ralsina> after that, you guys feel free to choose any time that fits you
[13:21] <alecu> ralsina, ok, great. I'll be back before that for sure.
[13:21] <nessita> alecu: ack
[13:21] <nessita> gatox: thanks!
[13:24] <alecu> nessita, btw: if I decode from "utf-8" into unicode before calling makedirs, it seems to work fine.
[13:24] <nessita> alecu: great news
[13:24] <alecu> nessita, at least sso
[13:24] <ralsina> nessita: I know you have a ton of these, but this one seems to have dropped from your table: https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/add_install_option
[13:24] <nessita> alecu: well, syncdaemon should use the os_helper methods, no?
[13:24] <alecu> nessita, I'll be working on a small branch to fix this, and I'll check if sd breaks similarly
[13:25] <ralsina> nessita: feel free to delegate it, though
[13:25] <alecu> nessita, is it using the os_helper stuff to create the logging folder too?
[13:25] <nessita> ralsina: thanks for the reminder
[13:25] <alecu> nessita, I'll check when I get back.
[13:25] <nessita> alecu: thanks, can you also file and fix the cirticial re logging the tokens?
[13:25] <alecu> nessita, also, I'll work on the fix for the tokens
[13:25] <alecu> sure
[13:27] <nessita> alecu: thanks!
[13:27] <nessita> alecu: re: logging folder, I'm not sure, but surely we can make it use it
[13:30] <nessita> ralsina: while testing the selct-folder branch IRL, I found out bug #848981
[13:30] <nessita> ralsina: will approve, but the new bug should be taken care of (is not critical though)
[13:32] <nessita> gatox: ping
[13:32] <gatox> nessita, pong
[13:33] <nessita> gatox: what will _build_general_error_message return if the param is not a mapping? the empty string?
[13:33] <gatox> yes
[13:33] <gatox> nessita,  ^
[13:33] <gatox> nessita, is that ok??
[13:33] <nessita> gatox: well, we should return instead a repr() of the parameter, otherwise the UI will not progress and the user will have no idea why
[13:33] <gatox> nessita, or do you want to print the object in that place?
[13:34] <gatox> nessita, ok
[13:34] <nessita> gatox: no printing
[13:34] <nessita> gatox: you can add logging, and return the error repr()
[13:34] <gatox> nessita, yes, i understand
[13:34] <nessita> gatox: secondly, this looks off:
[13:34] <nessita>          error['Error'] = 'Generic Error'
[13:34] <nessita>         error['Test'] = 'Just for Testing'
[13:34] <ralsina> nessita: about bug #848981, I replied. I am not sure that's a bug, although fixing it is not terribly hard.
[13:34] <ralsina> nessita: I would mark it low
[13:34] <nessita> gatox: inside on_user_registration_error
[13:35] <gatox> nessita, uhhhhhhhhhhh i forgot to delete the tests!
[13:36] <nessita> ralsina: replied back, basically I said let's ask UX because I'm not sure :-)
[13:36] <ralsina> nessita: hehe
[13:36] <nessita> gatox: since you're modifying...
[13:37] <gatox> nessita, yes?
[13:37] <nessita> gatox: ERROR_EMAIL_TOKEN should be after ERROR_EMAIL
[13:37] <nessita> (alphabetical order)
[13:37] <gatox> nessita, ok
[13:38]  * alecu bbl
[13:38] <nessita> gatox: another question/suggestion: in on_email_validation_error, if there is an specific form error, I don't think you're showing it...
[13:39] <nessita> gatox: I think you missed the " if msg is None", shouldn't that be " if msg is not None"? and also you should pop that vlaue from the dict
[13:40] <gatox> nessita, yes, i think you are right
[13:40] <nessita> gatox: can you please fix that and add tests for that?
[13:41] <gatox> nessita, ok, no problem
[13:42] <mandel>  ralsina ping
[13:43] <ralsina> mandel: pong
[13:43] <mandel> ralsina, do you have a bug report for the keyring issue?
[13:43] <dobey> sigh
[13:43] <ralsina> mandel: yes there is one, but I don't have it handy
[13:44] <mandel> ralsina, where did you submitted? ubuntu-sso-client?
[13:44] <ralsina> mandel: check in u1cp one about not being able to remove device
[13:44] <mandel> ralsina, ok
[13:44] <nessita> mandel: let me give it to you
[13:44] <mandel> nessita, cool thx
[13:45] <mandel> ralsina, the patch is for the c based bersion of pykeyring, could you build it last time or should I compile it to you?
[13:45] <nessita> mandel: bug #845806
[13:45] <ralsina> mandel: I don't remember
[13:45] <nessita> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/845806
[13:46] <ralsina> mandel: why are we not using the python implementation?
[13:46]  * ralsina didn't even remember there being a C implementation
[13:46] <mandel> ralsina, there c code is yo use the crypto libs in windows instead of using ctypes, that is all
[13:46] <ralsina> mandel: ack
[13:46] <mandel> ralsina, that one is the one we are currently using in our code
[13:47] <ralsina> I can probably build it, I have VS2008
[13:47] <mandel> ralsina, ok, let me test and will pass you the branch
[13:52] <mandel> ralsina, do you have a window xp vm with the old pykeyring we where using?
[13:53] <ralsina> mandel: no, nessita has one
[13:53] <nessita> mandel: I have one, win xp with sp 3, 32 bits
[13:54] <nessita> mandel: is a prisitine env, so I can run scripts and such but no branches
[13:55] <nessita> ralsina: oh! your --mode branch broke trunk tests (I ran them only in linux, and they break in windows)
[13:55] <ralsina> I ran tests on that one
[13:55] <mandel> nessita, can you run the following for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/688336/
[13:56] <ralsina> nessita: missing push
[13:56] <ralsina> nessita: did that one merge?
[13:56] <nessita> ralsina: on the --mode branch?
[13:57] <ralsina> yeah
[13:57] <nessita> ralsina: yeah, it landed
[13:57] <ralsina> ok, I'll re-propose it
[13:57] <nessita> ralsina: can you make a quick new one?
[13:57] <ralsina> and then we will re-merge it?
[13:57] <ralsina> or I will push it somewhere else
[13:57] <dobey> meh
[13:57] <ralsina> Yes, should be 5'
[13:57] <nessita> ralsina: push somehwere else, and add the --fixes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-windows-installer/+bug/849009
[13:58] <nessita> ralsina: yes?
[13:58] <ralsina> nessita: yes, should be up in 5', unless I have to start talking in the mgmt call :-)
[13:58] <nessita> ack
[13:59] <nessita> ralsina: in the add_installer_option branch, can you make this simple change (but I think it will improve readability): instead of the parameter to be called installer, make that "installing"? (not the command line option, just the main() argument
[14:00] <nessita> so we can have in the code:
[14:00] <nessita> if installing: foo
[14:00] <nessita> else: bar
[14:00] <ralsina> sure, looks better
[14:01] <dobey> blah, this sucks
[14:02] <dobey> i can't tell if it's gtk3reactor that's not working right, or ubuntuone-control-panel tests
[14:02] <mandel> nessita, did you manage to run the script I pated?
[14:03] <dobey> and i really have no idea how ubuntuone-installer tests pass when using --reactor=twisted
[14:04] <nessita> mandel: not yet, booting the VM now
[14:05] <mandel> ok, no worries
[14:06] <nessita> mandel: ah, I have no python there
[14:06] <nessita> mandel: I'm downloading it now
[14:06] <mandel> ok
[14:07] <mandel> nessita, let me compile the pykeyring for you so that you have the latests version, ping me when you have python ready
[14:08] <dobey> somebody make a client branch to land plz :)
[14:08] <nessita> mandel: done
[14:11] <nessita> ralsina: let me know when the install-option is changed, I'll test it IRL
[14:11] <mandel> nessita, ok, uploading the files know I'll ping you with the public url
[14:11] <ralsina> nessita: on it, it was my turn to talk :-)
[14:11] <nessita> no rush
[14:11] <mandel> nessita, try with this http://ubuntuone.com/4J7pmS2SWCwWAJft4A0x47
[14:11] <ralsina> nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/install-betterer/+merge/75186
[14:12] <ralsina> Adding IRL instructions
[14:12] <nessita> mandel: ack
[14:12] <nessita> ralsina: thanks!
[14:12] <nessita> mandel: what do I do with that? dump it in site-packages?
[14:12] <mandel> nessita, yes
[14:13] <mandel> nessita, I know, not very elegant
[14:13] <nessita> mandel: result is None
[14:14] <nessita> mandel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/688353/
[14:16] <mandel> nessita, hm.. that is why the tests pass?. ok I know the issue, the problem is the package, give me few mins.. (Ibooting a vm to fix this)
[14:16] <nessita> mandel: anything else?
[14:16] <mandel> nessita, giv me 5/10 min
[14:16] <nessita> mandel: what package?
[14:17] <mandel> nessita, the compiled version I sent you is missing a file
[14:17] <nessita> which file?
[14:19] <mandel> nessita, I don't know yet, but you should never get None unless there was an import error, I'm going to change that function to actually get an exception
[14:20] <mandel> ralsina, ping
[14:21] <ralsina> mandel: pong
[14:21] <mandel> ralsina, can you import win32_crypto in the machine you use to build the packages?
[14:21] <ralsina> mandel: yes, import works
[14:22] <mandel> hmmmm
[14:23] <ralsina> mandel: could be it's not included in the bundle and breaks on the target?
[14:23] <mandel> ralsina, well I'm getting all the tests ok? but I wanna know more about the error
[14:24] <mandel> ralsina, and there are no logs for it.. so I'm just doing IRL tests
[14:24] <ralsina> mandel: I am in the phone, so it's tricky
[14:24] <ralsina> to help much
[14:24] <nessita> mandel: what do you need in particular? I would like to understand so we can help you
[14:25] <mandel> nessita, well, logs with the trace would be nice
[14:26] <nessita> mandel: logs where from what?
[14:26] <nessita> mandel: stop being cryptic, we're not in your head (please!)
[14:26] <nessita> :-)
[14:27] <ralsina> mandel, nessita: go mumble? :-)
[14:27] <mandel> nessita, I'm testing IRL the keyring code and I'd like to have the logs of the error that was reported
[14:27] <ralsina> mandel: I can provide a set of binaries that print stderr so we can see that
[14:27] <nessita> mandel: so you want the log from sso?
[14:27] <mandel> nessita, yes :D
[14:28] <nessita> looking to see if I still have them
[14:28] <mandel> cool thx
[14:29] <nessita> mandel: where is xdg saving logs in XP?
[14:30] <mandel> nessita, no idea.. I think is in temp
[14:30] <nessita> downloading u1 beta2 to re generate logs
[14:30] <mandel> nessita, sweet thx!
[14:30] <mandel> I'm nearly done setting a devel env in xp...
[14:31]  * ralsina should really do a relocatable windows virtualenv :-/
[14:33] <nessita> mandel, ralsina: for future reference, logs in XP are located at:
[14:33] <nessita> C:\Documents and Settings\foo bar\Local Settings\Application Data\xdg
[14:35] <mandel> ack
[14:35] <nessita> mandel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/688363/
[14:36] <mandel> nessita, thx a lot
[14:36] <nessita> mandel: seems like the trace itself is not being logged in the windows code
[14:39] <mandel> nessita, yes, lets change that
[14:39] <mandel> nessita, I think the code in sso that makes the call is doing it
[14:39] <nessita> ralsina: since we're at it, can you please improve this:
[14:39] <nessita> self.assertTrue('--mode win32' == self._called[0][3])
[14:40] <nessita> to use assertEqual()?
[14:40] <ralsina> sure
[14:40] <nessita> there are several of those in that test
[14:41] <ralsina> nessita: but assertTrue for whatever is None, right?
[14:41] <nessita> ralsina: assertTrue(foo is None) <- yes
[14:42] <ralsina> ack, pushing it in 1'
[14:44] <ralsina> nessita: pushed
[14:44] <nessita> looking
[14:45] <nessita> ralsina: what revno?
[14:46] <ralsina> nessita: 63
[14:46] <nessita> ralsina: LP has no idea yet
[14:46] <nessita> branching locally
[14:46] <ralsina> argh
[14:47] <ralsina> nessita: wait, it got pushed to the old branch
[14:47] <nessita> ralsina: figured
[14:47] <nessita> ralsina: I was about to day branching locally did not help either
[14:49] <ralsina> it's pushd but launchpad is really slow at scanning today
[14:49] <nessita> ralsina: did alecu return?
[14:49] <nessita> shall we schedule the mumble?
[14:49] <alecu> nessita, yes it did
[14:49] <ralsina> haven't seen him
[14:49] <nessita> alecu: hi it!
[14:49] <nessita> ralsina, alecu, gatox, mandel: shall we mumble?
[14:49] <alecu> ralsina, I've only seen him in the mirror, this morning.
[14:49] <nessita> to sync up
[14:50] <gatox> nessita, ack
[14:50] <ralsina> if everyone is here, whenever you are ready, I am in mumble now
[14:51] <nessita> I'm there too
[14:52] <mandel> ralsina, nessita can we do it in 15 please, I'm in the middle of a thinking process
[14:52] <mandel> as in bug hunting
[14:53] <nessita> mandel: ok
[14:53] <alecu> mandel, I usually call that "getting a phone call from my boss, the pope"
[14:53] <alecu> mandel, or "sitting in the royal throne"
[14:53] <mandel> I'm not in the toilet :P
[14:54] <alecu> mandel, don't let me interrupt you!
[14:54] <ralsina> sending a mail with attachments!
[14:54] <mandel> nessita, can you take a look at your registry and do a search on ubuntuone
[14:54] <mandel> ?
[14:55] <nessita> mandel: which OS?
[14:55] <mandel> nessita, XP
[14:56] <nessita> gatox: added needs info to https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/847796/+merge/75158 (you decide and let me know)
[14:56] <nessita> mandel: sure, looking
[14:56] <gatox> nessita, ok
[14:57] <nessita> mandel: there are a lot of results
[14:57] <nessita> mandel: what are you looking in particular?
[14:58] <nessita> ralsina: speacking of which, this does not look ok: I have a resgitry entry that points InstallLocation to C:\Program Files/ubuntuone
[14:58] <nessita> ralsina: is that in our hands to fix?
[14:58] <ralsina> it isn't, but it works just fine
[14:59] <nessita> ralsina: same for keys Location, path-ubuntuone-syncdamon, path-ubuntu-sso-client
[14:59] <ralsina> For example, try "c:\program files/ubuntuone/dist\ubuntuone-control-panel-qt.exe"
[14:59] <nessita> ralsina: in whose hands is it?
[14:59] <ralsina> nessita: that is a variable provided by InstallBuilder
[14:59] <ralsina> and it works
[15:00] <nessita> ralsina: I believe it works, but can we make that a windows path? (just trying to measure effort)
[15:00] <nessita> mandel: ping?
[15:00] <mandel> nessita, Software\U1_KEY_ATTR\Keyring
[15:00] <ralsina> nessita: I don't think we can, unless I overwrite that key with something from the wizard.
[15:00] <mandel> nessita, prisas, que no me lo se de memoria! ;)
[15:00] <nessita> mandel: I don t have a toplevel Software
[15:01] <nessita> top level starts with HKEY
[15:01] <ralsina> nessita: HKEY_CURRENT_USER
[15:01] <ralsina> then what mandel said
[15:01] <nessita> ralsina: I'm curious of knowing how do you know is that key (so I can learn)
[15:02] <ralsina> nessita: user-specific keys are always there
[15:02] <mandel> nessita, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ubuntu One\Keyring
[15:02] <ralsina> it's like ~/.config so to speak
[15:02] <nessita> mandel: got that entry, wanna a screenshot?
[15:02] <nessita> ralsina: ah, I get it now
[15:03] <nessita> mandel: wanna a screenshot? (and we should mumble now)
[15:03] <nessita> (if you're ready)
[15:03] <mandel> nessita, no need, I think the issue is that we are getting an exception in the DeleteValue but I dont know what value we are sending, that usually happens when we send the wrongone
[15:04] <mandel> nessita, sure
[15:04]  * mandel starts mumble
[15:05] <mandel> ralsina, how long does it take you to make a new msi?
[15:05] <mandel> ralsina, I'd like to give you a new version of pykeyring that will point to the error
[15:05] <ralsina> ok, phone, be back in 30''
[15:05] <mandel> nessita, I dont longer needyour help, I fisshed setting up an xp machine
[15:06] <nessita> mandel: can you join mumble? I have some questions re this keyring thingy
[15:07] <ralsina> uploading and everything, it's about 30 minutes
[15:10] <mandel> ralsina, ok, let me push the changes for you
[15:14] <dobey> lunch time, bbiab
[15:29] <karni> Any help with translation, friends :)? "No me gusta la limitación que supone tener que sincronizar el teléfono con la hora de la red. En dropbox no pasa"
[15:29] <karni> That's a review from Android Market. Google Translate doesn't handle it well.
[15:30] <ralsina> karni: he says he doesn; t like that it  doesn't work if the phone has the wrong date/time
[15:31] <karni> ralsina: ah, makes perfect sense. though, we've recently fixed it, maybe he/she hasn't updated yet.
[15:31] <karni> ralsina: thanks!
[15:32] <ralsina> why he doesn't like that his phone doesn't keep time, I don't know
[15:32] <karni> ralsina: :D (perhaps he meant that he intentionally doesn't use the exact timezone/time setting he's in. We've had few such users.)
[15:33] <ralsina> karni: "Thans for helping make Ubuntu One better. You are weird."
[15:33] <karni> ralsina: w00t ;D ?
[15:34] <karni> ralsina: ah hahahahah
[15:34]  * ralsina helps user support
[15:37] <mandel> ralsina, nessita, alecu, gatox: I just fixed the bug, the issue was that the key was not opened with full rights, please pull from hg clone<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:37] <mandel> I mean clone
[16:05] <nessita> alecu: sos un groso! thanks for working on this
[16:05] <alecu> nessita, the grossa is you.
[16:06] <nessita> gatox: did you got any chance to read my comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/847796/+merge/75158 ?
[16:07] <gatox> nessita, yes, i'll that in this branch
[16:10] <alecu> nessita, the metadata dir is "C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\xdg\ubuntuone\syncdaemon\tritcask"????
[16:12] <alecu> mandel, ^?
[16:13] <nessita> alecu: he should remove everything under:
[16:13] <nessita> C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\xdg
[16:13] <nessita> alecu: ask him to do a backup first, like moving the dir away
[16:13] <nessita> (instead of removing)
[16:13] <mandel> alecu, excuse me?
[16:14] <alecu> mandel, don't worry, nessita has answered. thanks anyway.
[16:14] <mandel> alecu, oh, ok
[16:19] <alecu> nessita, I've replied to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-windows-installer/+bug/846373
[16:22] <nessita> looking@
[16:23] <nessita> alecu: the answer looks great, thanks
[16:26] <ralsina> blajk ping
[16:26] <ralsina> oops, not here
[16:27] <nessita> ok, I'm leaving in a couple of minutes
[16:27] <mandel> ralsina, have you tried to build the keyring package?
[16:27] <nessita> if you need me, speak now or forever (tomorrow) hodl your peace :-P
[16:28] <ralsina> mandel: am about to start, was in a bit of mgmt business
[16:28] <mandel> ralsina, fiber goes very well for that
[16:29] <mandel> ralsina, mainly, clone python setup install and it should try to compile etc..
[16:29] <mandel> if it fails in a crazy manner AKA windows manner, you do not have VS set correctly, and alecu knows a lot about it :)
[16:30] <ralsina> seems to be compiling
[16:30] <ralsina> semms to have installed
[16:30] <ralsina> How can I make sure?
[16:30] <mandel> ralsina, let me write a small script for you to test :)
[16:30] <ralsina> mandel: cool
[16:31] <mandel> ralsina, give me a min so I can test it on windows (vm booting is slow...)
[16:33] <mandel> ralsina, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/688446/
[16:34] <ralsina> mandel: that is SO annoying to copy/paste :-)
[16:34] <mandel> ralsina, I'll do my best to get this to land in trunk asap with good test coverage etc...
[16:34] <mandel> ralsina, boohh
[16:35] <mandel> ralsina, http://paste.ubuntu.com/688449/
[16:35] <ralsina> mandel: seems to work
[16:35] <mandel> ralsina, are you sure you are not spanish? that level of lazyness can only be achieved in this side of the Atlantic :)
[16:35] <ralsina> I had to copy/paste 9 times!
[16:36] <mandel> hehehe
[16:36] <mandel> ralsina, ok, then I'm moving to the update thing, right?
[16:36] <ralsina> yeah
[16:36] <ralsina> I think I may do a build with this keyring so I can test deleting devices on XP and then I'll close the bug
[16:37] <mandel> ralsina, ok, I'll start that early in the morning, now.. I'm going to try and find my underwear I think is in a box
[16:37] <mandel> ralsina, seems logical, are we ever going to get build bots?
[16:37] <mandel> would be nice to have commitles
[16:37] <ralsina> mandel: yes, I have been talking about that with sidne-i
[16:38] <ralsina> mandel: doing a jenkins. We can then store the builds as artifacts
[16:38] <dobey> hmm
[16:38] <mandel> ralsina, that would be beatiful, but hide, dobey is going to shoot at us!
[16:38]  * mandel hides? then looks for his underwear
[16:39] <dobey> mandel: fix whatever it is that is making you type ? after random words :P
[16:39] <ralsina> the curvature of the earth protects me from any weapons dobey can easily obtain
[16:39] <dobey> ralsina: i wouldn't be so sure of that
[16:39] <ralsina> it's like I am behind a 8000km tall wall
[16:39] <mandel> dobey, haha true I forgot about that
[16:39] <ralsina> I say _easily obtain_ :-)
[16:40] <dobey> ralsina: stuxnet is very easily obtainable, and it can very easily obtain control of physical things ;)
[16:40] <mandel> oh, byt the way happy programmers day to all of you http://paste.ubuntu.com/688449/
[16:40] <mandel> ralsina, except you, you are a manager ;)
[16:40] <mandel> that was meant to be this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmers_Day
[16:41] <mandel> stupid mac os x
[16:41] <nessita> ok, I'm gone
[16:41]  * ralsina has committed quite a bit of code lately. Have you managed anyone? Thought so!
[16:41] <nessita> see ya tomorrow crowd!
[16:41] <ralsina> bye nessita, mandel!
[16:41] <mandel> ralsina, hehehe
[16:41] <ralsina> Hm!  Mail me if there is anything I can do for you, I will check it
[17:39] <gatox> ralsina, ok!
[17:42] <alecu> ack!
[17:51] <dobey> "This bug affects 5,910,000,000 people. Does this bug affect you?"
[18:04] <gatox> EOD.... bye!
[18:25] <lauratika> hello veryone i have a question, i sync folders in ubuntuone but only some, besides ubuntuone folder, shows the green tick. how can i enable the green tick? in all folders. thanx guys and gals you rule!.
[18:34] <lauratika> anyone?
[18:34] <dobey> lauratika: are those folders subscribed on the machine where you are not seeing that emblem?
[18:36] <lauratika> dobey:yes
[18:38] <lauratika> sorry got disconected...but im back
[18:38] <dobey> lauratika: what ubuntu one options do you have in the menu when you right-click on the folder that isn't showing those icons?
[18:40] <lauratika> share, stop sync this folder, publish, copy web link, hide ribbon
[18:41] <lauratika> share, publish, copy web link are gray out
[18:41] <dobey> hrmm
[18:42] <dobey> it should have the emblem then
[18:42] <lauratika> the other 3 folders i have same options and it shows the green tick
[18:43] <lauratika> the interesting thing is that inside the folder wont show green tick the files shows the green tick
[18:46] <dobey> lauratika: what does the synchronized folder show? the "synchronizing" emblem?
[18:46] <lauratika> yes green tick
[18:46] <lauratika> is this what you mean?
[18:56] <dobey> no, i mean the folder you're complaining about not showing the green tick. what does it show?
[18:57] <lauratika> the folder shows nothing as the other non sync, plain nautilus folder, inside in the files shows the green tick
[18:58] <dobey> hrmm. it sounds like maybe ubuntuone-syncdaemon does not think those folders are synchronized.
[19:01] <lauratika> hmm wonder if this is a bug
[19:02] <dobey> i think so
[19:02] <dobey> i am seeing the same issue here
[19:03] <lauratika> great!
[19:03] <lauratika> you can see it too
[19:05] <dobey> lauratika: in the view that shows all those folders, press Control+R please and tell me if the icons show up
[19:05] <lauratika> yep, that did the trick
[19:05] <lauratika> what is all about
[19:05] <lauratika> can you explain please?
[19:08] <dobey> it might be a bug in nautilus :-/
[19:08] <dobey> Control+R refreshes the view
[19:08] <dobey> seems like nautilus ends up with a stale view somehow
[19:09] <lauratika> hmmm
[19:09] <lauratika> should we report this to nautilus
[19:10] <dobey> i think it needs more debugging to be sure
[19:10] <dobey> but you can file it against ubuntuone-client-gnome project if you would like
[19:11] <lauratika> i see okmaite thanx heaps... cheers!
[21:10] <dobey> have a good evening all
[21:13] <nhaines> dobey: good evening!


[13:34] <jussi> Im glad thomas is doing that ^^^
[13:35] <jussi> its somethign the community has been crying out for for a long time...
[13:38] <AlanBell> indeed
[13:39] <AlanBell> and that is the second update I think, it is good to see something is happening on it
[13:46] <jussi> I think tats a referral to the first, but yeah. I liked the way that they have a nice list of ways the community can get involved
[14:01] <AlanBell> so it is


[00:15] <LjL> hello PreZLaptop
[00:33] <LjL> !best
[00:33] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[00:33] <LjL> !no best is <reply> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[00:33] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[00:33] <LjL> !polls is <alias> best
[00:33] <ubotu> But polls already means something else!
[00:42] <ompaul> folks aubade has been invited here for tomorrow as I have aubade removed from -offtopic - so PriceChild / LjL if I am not here can you guys help with !guidelines etc?
[00:43] <ompaul> too late to talk now night
[00:46] <LjL> eh
[00:46] <LjL> banned aubade?
[00:46] <PriceChild> seem sso
[00:47] <PriceChild> A while ago it seems.
[00:48] <Pici> hm?
[00:49] <LjL> i don't get it
[00:50] <Pici> When?
[00:50] <LjL> 29 dec
[00:53] <Pici> me either.
[00:54] <PriceChild> I assume he says its ok to remove.
[00:54] <LjL> i think so
[02:09] <ubotu> Slart called the ops in #ubuntu (ubuntusucksubunt)
[02:10] <ubuntusucksubunt> bye
[02:10]  * PriceChild grins
[02:11] <LjL> a comcast, how surprising
[02:11] <ardchoille> Comcast known for trolls?
[02:12] <LjL> known, i don't know. but i've had that impression for some time.
[02:12] <stdin> hmm, do you think it's a coincidence: [arcticpenguin]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>: john  ?
[02:12] <stdin> exact same dns/ip
[02:13] <LjL> eh, coincidence?
[02:13] <LjL> how can it be a coincidence if it's on the same ip?
[02:13] <ardchoille> Well, I'm also on comcast and I get a new ip if I reboot the router
[02:13] <stdin> that's my point :p that user's in it seems. maybe they don't like ubuntu there #pclinuxos
[02:13] <LjL> ardchoille, but he's online *now*
[02:14] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[02:14] <LjL> stdin: meh, he's probably spammed #pclinuxos as well
[02:14] <LjL> (which deserves it, it's an obnoxious channel)
[02:15] <crdlb> LjL: comcast is just unbelievably huge :)
[02:15] <LjL> mebbe
[02:15] <LjL> if i were a #pclinuxos-support operator, though, i'd ban the whole of it
[02:15] <LjL> just like they ban AOL :)
[02:15] <crdlb> it's the largest cable company in the US
[02:16] <Pici> you use comcast.... dont you?
[02:16]  * crdlb is on one of the other behemoths (verizon)
[02:18] <LjL> surprisingly though, they *are* talking about ubuntu in #plos
[02:20] <LjL> "PCLOS is just as stable as ubuntu.  And give you more freedom to learn too.  Not as controlled as Ubuntu"
[02:20] <LjL> mwahaha. ha.
[02:21] <LjL> yesss i control theee
[02:32] <usuario> OI
[02:32] <usuario> TESTE
[02:32] <LjL> usuario: #test for test.....
[02:32] <LjL> s
[02:47] <jdong> and it's test, with no extra letters afterwards.
[02:48] <Pici> perhaps he was trying to get a different message across.
[11:27] <kbrooks> there was a spammer in #ubuntu
[11:27] <kbrooks> oh ok nm
[11:28] <kbrooks> didnt notice ban
[11:40] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (Xx1337HaXz0rXx (Trolling))
[11:43] <Mez> kick forwarded jay-oh-en here so can have a word regarding his conduct - ping me if he arrives
[11:44] <Mez> !trolls
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trolls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <Mez> !search feed
[11:44] <ubotu> Found: feedthetroll, launch-feedback, feeding the troll
[11:44] <Mez> !feedthetroll
[11:44] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[11:44] <Mez> !-feedthetroll
[11:44] <ubotu> feedthetroll is <alias> feeding the troll - added by Pici on 2008-01-14 18:04:20
[13:08]  * PriceChild roars
[13:09]  * Pici squeaks
[13:12]  * TheSheep talks
[13:12]  * jussi01 hides in the corner
[13:12]  * LongPointyStick peeks around
[13:12]  * jpatrick pokes LongPointyStick
[13:13] <PriceChild> Its all /me /me /me with you guys isn't it.
[13:14] <jussi01> hehe
[13:14]  * no0tic debuilds
[13:15]  * jussi01 debuilds no0tic
[13:17] <no0tic> err, no debian directory in my tree
[13:18] <jussi01> build failed!
[13:19] <no0tic> jussi01, try writing some debian/rules for me
[13:19] <jpatrick> no0tic: cdbs
[13:19]  * jpatrick ducks
[13:20] <PriceChild> cdbs is amazing! :)
[13:21] <PriceChild> Using it goes like this: "i need to write a rules file... done!"
[13:22] <LongPointyStick> hehe
[13:24] <jpatrick> from #-motu: 14:21 < \sh> ping...would you like to add a freenode cloak for me? :)
[13:28] <PriceChild> nalioth, cloak for \sh please.
[13:28] <PriceChild> I've added him to launchpad group.
[13:29] <PriceChild> Thanks jpatrick
[13:29] <jpatrick> PriceChild: no problem
[14:04] <PriceChild> Hey vira, how can I help?
[14:06] <Pici> Its that same address..
[14:07] <ardchoille> aka rara?
[14:11] <jussi01> who is daniels ?
[14:11] <PriceChild> jussi01, who?
[14:12] <jussi01> PriceChild: he is on the access list for #kubuntu...
[14:12] <jussi01> [16:09] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 21  30    daniels                             2y 31w 5d 10h 42m 10s
[14:12] <jussi01> been a while since he used it...
[14:12] <PriceChild> jussi01, he's online, why not ask him?
[14:13] <jussi01> PriceChild: I was curious, didnt want to bother anyone personally...
[14:14] <PriceChild> I assume one of the original founders of the channel
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Going to test my Konversation changes to Quick Buttons..
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok, didnt work..
[14:49] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, i'm on konversation, perhaps i can be of some help
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: Trying to set my quick Buttons didnt work  [06:47] [Notice] -ChanServ- An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #ubuntu-ops
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi LjL.. says I dont have level 10 byt PriceChildsaid he set it
[14:50] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, that's because you don't have op access on here, you have voice access
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL: I have the buttons showing and edited them
[14:50] <LjL> he lies
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> I was trying to test here... rather than in the channel
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> So should work in channel.
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:52] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: join ##ljl rather
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> That answers that question.. thanks
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> ok..
[15:35] <ikonia> LjL: how is your hardy upgade running ?
[15:35] <LjL> ikonia: it's not
[15:36] <jpatrick> LjL: any updates on Crysis and co.?
[15:36] <ikonia> LjL: oh ?
[15:36] <jpatrick> before he starts telling me he's bought Freenode
[15:36] <LjL> jpatrick: not really, we've had to kick him a couple of times from here because he insisted joining after being repeatedly told not to idle
[15:36] <LjL> ikonia: must be thinking of someone else
[15:36] <LjL> which reminds me
[15:37] <ikonia> LjL: ooh, sorry.  I got it to op ok
[16:37] <jpatrick> LjL: ** Darksiteevil [...] joined #kubuntu-es
[16:41] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: /deop Jack_Sparrow
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[16:41] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: What irc client do you use?
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Konversation...
[16:41] <Pici> ah...
[16:41] <LjL>  /deop works fine
[16:42] <LjL> you can also use /cs op #channel -jack_sparrow if you don't want it to show that you deopped yourself
[16:42] <LjL> matter of choice
[16:42] <Pici> I have aliases setup for all that stuff, hardly remember what the real commands are anymore.
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL: /msg chanserv deop ##ljl Jack_Sparrow   didnt work
[16:44] <LjL> no
[16:44] <LjL>  /ms chanserv op ##ljl -jack_sparrow
[16:44] <LjL> msg
[16:44] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: fyi, you're opped in #ubuntu too.
[17:07] <Pici> Man... sqlite must be really forgiving.
[17:09] <LjL> Seveas Seveas look what Pici said
[17:11] <Pici> Or... MySQL is really contraining.
[17:13] <LjL> no amount of changing your statement will change the fact that you insulted his coding abilities!
[17:13] <jussi01> heehehhehehehehehe
[17:13] <LjL> and he hates people who insult nothingness
[17:13] <Pici> I did no such thing.
[17:22] <jpatrick> LjL: please take a look at #k-es
[17:23] <LjL> jpatrick: what's the matter? he seems to be asking legitimate questions
[17:23] <jpatrick> LjL: Dark* guy is always on about fedora
[17:24] <jpatrick> it's a *kubuntu* support channel
[17:24] <LjL> well he was at least claiming it was kde4 information
[17:53] <Pici> Hello mr. I never join channels ;)
[17:55] <nalioth> Pici: am having trouble with multimedia
[18:41] <PriceChild> LjL, ping^ ?
[18:42] <LjL> PriceChild: yeah little load problems
[18:50] <Pici> Is it escribe in french as well?
[18:51] <PriceChild> Think so.
[18:52] <PriceChild> He hasn't made it in...
[18:52] <LjL> ecrive
[18:53] <PriceChild> oh for crying out loud
[18:54]  * PriceChild should be more patient
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: Need to go back up and try and finish my roof repairs...  be back as soon as I can or when I need a break.  High winds today.. ugh..
[19:12] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow, fun fun...
[19:21] <TheSheep> Jack_Sparrow: you have a roof?
[19:24] <jpatrick> luxury
[19:25]  * jussi01 also has a roof :)
[19:28] <jpatrick> jussi01: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FatHLHG2uGY
[19:35] <PriceChild> !sudo
[19:35] <Ubotwo`> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[19:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[19:36] <PriceChild> !no sudo is <reply> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[19:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that PriceChild
[19:37] <jussi01> grrr, I a so over this
[19:37] <PriceChild> jussi01, hmm?
[19:38] <jussi01> PriceChild: random restarts of the xserver
[19:38] <PriceChild> ah
[19:38] <PriceChild> my lappy's stopped locking up so i'm happy
[19:39] <jussi01> good for you :)
[19:39] <PriceChild> jussi01, jealous?
[19:39] <PriceChild> *me waves it infront of his face*
[19:39] <jussi01> grrrrrrr
[19:40] <jussi01> RRROOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR
[19:40] <TheSheep> meep?
[19:40] <Pici> vroom
[19:41] <jussi01> hehe
[19:41] <TheSheep> [ ouch! ]
[19:43] <PriceChild> Pici, didn't know about that one, thanks.
[19:43] <Pici> PriceChild: np :)
[19:43] <Pici> People listen to ubotu even if you were to say the same thing.
[19:44] <PriceChild> indeed
[19:44] <jussi01> weird like that...
[19:44] <PriceChild> People also listen to you when they've just seen you kick someone.
[19:44] <jussi01> hehe
[19:45] <TheSheep> that's the old 'take me to your leader' reflex
[19:49] <PriceChild> ompaul, no aubade
[19:49] <Pici> Hi.
[19:50] <ompaul> PriceChild, thanks
[19:50] <ompaul> PriceChild, been a really long day - 6:45 up and at them - 6:30 home
[19:50]  * ompaul wants to apt-get install sleep
[19:51] <jussi01> jpatrick: sigh...
[19:51] <PriceChild> lovely
[19:51] <Pici> Did we ever get clarification about aubade's ban? I didnt understand what it was from the tracker.
[19:51]  * jussi01 does apt-get install sleep on ompaul
[19:52] <ompaul> PriceChild, I noted that one of the channels has this in its "greeting" -ChanServ- [#python] This channel is logged by IRSeek, and what you say may turn up on the web.  << now the question is not which channel but what do you think of that
[19:52] <ompaul> ;-)
[19:52] <PriceChild> What do I think of the warning?
[19:54] <PriceChild> I'm getting fed up with this tab completion... *fixes*
[19:55] <Pici> Me too princechild
[19:55] <jussi01> hehe
[19:57]  * jussi01 is building a webkit browser :)
[19:57]  * ompaul is breaking things
[19:58]  * Pici is trying to get the bantracker to play nice with mysql
[20:01]  * ompaul is trying to get mysql to play nice
[20:01] <ompaul> hmm what is common here?
[20:01] <ompaul> jussi01, you doing it in pythong?
[20:02] <Pici> I am (obviously).
[20:08] <ompaul> gotit -- I can sort the rest tomorrow  lynx m108/crm
[20:09] <ompaul> installing debian at 5:30 pm in the evening is not good for your stress level and travelling home and discovering you turned off the machine and ringing random numbers in the office to find someone who actually is there can and does lead to frustration
[20:09] <ompaul> :)
[20:46] <ikonia> adhey hey
[21:06] <jpatrick> LjL: "chicos ya visitaron mi pagina? www.fedoraennicaragua.blogspot.com regalenme un clic en los anuncios que estan en negro por favor"
[21:06] <jpatrick> hahaha
[21:08] <jpatrick> really, that should be enough...
[21:09] <LjL> jpatrick: yes
[21:10] <jpatrick> done
[21:21] <ompaul> jussi01, I got an idea - it would be an enhancement - if you had a !editors type list, lets call it !helpers and that when one of them did /msg botzname annU you could announce in #ubuntu the comment
[21:29] <jussi01> ompaul: ??
[21:30] <jussi01> !ot-ubuntustudio is <reply> #ubuntustudio is the Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:30] <ompaul> jussi01, you were saying you were playing with bot code there a few mins ago
[21:30] <jussi01> ompaul: that was pici
[21:30] <ompaul> jussi01, doh!
[21:30] <jussi01> :D
[21:30] <ompaul> Pici, ^^ :)
[21:31] <jussi01> so someone want to add that factoid for me?
[21:31] <ompaul> !ot-ubuntustudio is <reply> #ubuntustudio is the Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:31] <ubotu> I'll remember that, ompaul
[21:31] <jussi01> and tell me why ubotu doesnt like me?
[21:31] <ompaul> can you log in?
[21:31] <ompaul> aka have you got a log in for the bot?
[21:31] <jussi01> ompaul: no, Im not an editor.
[21:31] <jussi01> yes
[21:31] <jussi01> %login
[21:32] <ubotu> OK
[21:32] <ompaul> now try
[21:32] <jussi01> !ot-ubuntustudio is <reply> #ubuntustudio is the Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:32] <LjL> !offtopic-#ubuntustudio is <reply> #ubuntustudio is the official Ubuntu Studio support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chatter. Welcome!
[21:32] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[21:32] <LjL> !forget ot-ubuntustudio
[21:32] <ubotu> I'll forget that, LjL
[21:32] <LjL> !ot-#ubuntustudio is <alias> offtopic-#ubuntustudio
[21:32]  * jussi01 hugs LjL
[21:32] <ompaul> LjL, you could give one of them to the bot
[21:32] <ompaul> woops
[21:32] <jussi01> ompaul: i dont have edit priviledges...
[21:33] <ompaul> LjL, you could give one of them to jussi01 do to
[21:33] <ompaul> ack
[21:33] <jussi01> ompaul: but when I say that in pm with ubotu then it just tells me not to think it is inteligent...
[21:33] <LjL> jussi01: it shouldn't
[21:33] <ompaul> jussi01, you got a bug
[21:33] <jussi01> LjL: I know, but it does...
[21:34]  * jussi01 bugs ompaul
[21:34] <ompaul> file a bug
[21:34] <jussi01> is it doing that to anyone else?
[21:35] <ompaul> jussi01, you are in that strange place between editor and login
[21:35] <ompaul> I guess
[21:35] <jussi01> ompaul: maybe...
[21:35] <ompaul> that it is not as clean a line as you might imagine
[21:36] <jussi01> LOL
[21:36] <jussi01> anyway, I got to run off andd get the wife from work...
[21:36] <ompaul> you have entered the twilight zone
[21:37] <LjL> jussi01, it does it for some factoids, depending on which characters are in them, there's a bug report already but i'm not sure it matches the current problem
[21:38] <LjL> jpatrick: ack
[21:38] <jpatrick> LjL: just in case I'm out (op team has been having problems) and freenode staff also have access
[22:38] <Thugacation> hi i'd like to contest some bans
[22:39] <PriceChild> Hey Thugacation.
[22:39] <Thugacation> hi
[22:39] <Thugacation> how does it go
[22:39] <Thugacation> i'd like to appeal
[22:39] <nalioth> Thugacation: you appealed yesterday
[22:39] <Thugacation> oh
[22:40] <Thugacation> is there a waiting list or something
[22:40] <Thugacation> to appeal again
[22:40] <nalioth> nobody that you spoke with yesterday was the one that banned you
[22:40] <Thugacation> yes they were
[22:41] <PriceChild> nalioth, i talked with him and i banned him in -offtopic
[22:41] <nalioth> PriceChild: but that was not his primary ban, was it?
[22:41] <PriceChild> nope
[22:41] <Thugacation> how can you define one ban as primary
[22:41] <Thugacation> theyre separate channels
[22:41] <PriceChild> primary was a bad word to use, I answered nalioth anyway as I understood what he meant
[22:42] <Thugacation> oh ok
[22:42] <nalioth> Thugacation: if you are in school, going round to the different classrooms showing your ass, do you think they're gonna let you do it all around the place, just because it was a different classroom?
[22:42] <Thugacation> bad analogy...
[22:42] <Thugacation> anyway
[22:42] <nalioth> no it's not
[22:43] <Thugacation> i just need some help installing linux
[22:43] <PriceChild> I think it was quite a good one.
[22:43] <nalioth> we are all ops in the #ubuntu* channels
[22:43] <Thugacation> so shouldnt you be required to keep a ban log or something to that effect
[22:43] <nalioth> if we see you misbehaving in one channel, do you honestly think we're not gonna be watching you in the others?
[22:43] <Thugacation> where you can write comments
[22:43] <Thugacation> that wasnt the case, LOL
[22:43] <ompaul> Thugacation, well you could not be offtopic in a channel where you blabber on about doing support for 10 bucks
[22:44] <ompaul> where that channel is all about support
[22:44] <Thugacation> oh good
[22:44] <ompaul> you were obviously trolling
[22:44] <Thugacation> ompaul just confirmed what i said yesterday
[22:44] <Thugacation> i'm glad you were there
[22:44] <ompaul> I banned you
[22:44] <Thugacation> no i asked how much they are getting paid to offer support
[22:44] <Thugacation> thanks ompaul
[22:44] <ompaul> nothing
[22:44] <ompaul> we do it cos we can
[22:44] <Thugacation> how is that banworthy
[22:44] <ompaul> you did not
[22:44] <Thugacation> i did
[22:44] <Thugacation> and i was asking for general help
[22:45] <ompaul> 2008-01-16T23:10:05 <Thugacation> are all linux users hackers
[22:45] <Thugacation> yeah i asked a question
[22:45] <Thugacation> i didnt say they are
[22:45] <Thugacation> it is a support channel after all
[22:45] <ompaul> 2008-01-16T23:12:48 <Thugacation> sql injection
[22:45] <ompaul> 2008-01-16T23:13:24 <Thugacation> concatonate means to join together
[22:45] <Thugacation> and???
[22:45] <ompaul> 2008-01-16T23:13:29 <Thugacation> dumb word right
[22:45] <Thugacation> ok i get it
[22:46] <ompaul> 2008-01-16T23:14:53 <Thugacation> how much do you guys get paid to give support to random people
[22:46] <Thugacation> you told me those discussions belong in off-topic
[22:46] <Thugacation> but that's not trolling
[22:46] <ompaul> 2008-01-16T23:14:59 <Thugacation> i would do it for less than 10 bucks
[22:46] <ompaul> now you are an expert on trolling
[22:46] <ompaul> we define it as annoying
[22:46] <ompaul> !guidelines
[22:46] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:46] <Thugacation> LOL
[22:47] <ompaul> Thugacation, read that
[22:47] <Thugacation> that isnt relevant to me
[22:47] <Thugacation> because i wasnt demanding answers
[22:47] <Thugacation> i was being a "nuisance"
[22:47] <Seveas> Thugacation, the guidelines are relevant to everyone
[22:47] <ompaul> Thugacation, not to any Ubuntu related subject I could see
[22:47] <Thugacation> oh come on
[22:47] <ompaul> that is you were not looking for help for iot
[22:48] <ompaul> it is a very busy channel
[22:48] <Thugacation> i think it's safe to say that i'm right
[22:48] <ompaul> you meander in
[22:48] <nalioth> Thugacation: your ban will expire soon
[22:48] <nalioth> this is going nowhere
[22:48] <ompaul> there is that
[22:49] <Thugacation> so.... about my bans...
[22:49] <Thugacation> i'd like to appeal
[22:50] <Seveas> Thugacation, you tried that yesterday. Why do you think today will be different?
[22:50] <Seveas> If anything, repeated nagging will lengthen bans
[22:50] <Thugacation> today the op who banned me in #ubuntu is here
[22:50] <ompaul> I want help installing ... you said that here earlier .. and then 2008-01-16T23:41:28 <Thugacation> you can spoof email headers with an smtp server  << so it seems
[22:50] <Thugacation> and pricechild says his decision to ban me in -offtopic was swayed by that
[22:50] <PriceChild> no it wasn't swayed
[22:51] <PriceChild> it was based
[22:51] <PriceChild> I would not have banned you else.
[22:51] <ompaul> so I find it hard to believe you are not a troll
[22:51] <ompaul> the guidelines apply to all I ask you to read them
[22:51] <LjL> PriceChild's decision to ban you in -offtopic was also "swayed" by the fact that basically every sane person in -offtopic was begging us to ban you
[22:51] <ompaul> and come back here
[22:52] <Thugacation> ok ompaul i dont understand what you mean by that
[22:52] <ompaul> !guidelines
[22:52] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:52] <nalioth> Thugacation: it means, to read the URLs he's posted to you and come back in a few days, if your ban hasn't disappeared by then
[22:52] <ompaul> Thugacation, read those guidelines
[22:53] <Thugacation> the general concensus here is that i am not a troll and i was just looking for ubuntu help in the wrong places
[22:53] <Thugacation> i was offtopic in #ubuntu and i wanted support in -offtopic
[22:53] <mneptok> "consensus"
[22:53] <Thugacation> ok ill read em
[22:53] <mneptok> :)
[22:53] <nalioth> Thugacation: is there anything more that we can help you with?
[22:53] <ompaul> Thugacation, that is where you are, and not where the people here are
[22:53] <PriceChild> mneptok, does that word make you giggle?
[22:53] <LjL> no no the general consensus here is most likely that you *are* a troll and pretty good at not doing anything *blatantly* unacceptable yet being incredibly annoying
[22:53] <Thugacation> but not necessarily breaking any rule
[22:53] <LjL> you're succeeding at it right now
[22:53] <mneptok> PriceChild: only when i pronounce it "poop"
[22:54] <PriceChild> mneptok, hehe... sounds like bum
[22:54] <LjL> Thugacation, do you know why we're people and not machines?
[22:54] <ompaul> Thugacation, and for that reason alone the annoying factor does you no good, have a read and come back in a few days
[22:54] <ompaul> thanks
[22:54] <LjL> Thugacation, because we don't only work based on rules, but also attempt employ common sense.
[22:54] <Thugacation> yeah i hear ya
[22:55] <Thugacation> and it's unfair
[22:55] <LjL> my common sense told me not only that you were a troll, but also that the fact that everyone in -ot wanted you to be banned meant that i wasn't on drugs myself.
[22:55] <nalioth> y'all quit FEEDING
[22:55] <Thugacation> i'm almost done reading the guidelines
[22:55] <Thugacation> quit feeding the troll? lol.... later
[22:55] <ompaul> so we have the excuse for proof
[22:56] <nalioth> that was a pretty self-incriminating leap there, i think
[22:57] <ompaul> now the bantracker has that little note in there ....
[22:57]  * nalioth was speaking of "feeding" this recycling loop
[22:58] <ompaul> nalioth, +75 on your <nalioth> that was a pretty self-incriminating leap there, i think
[22:58]  * ompaul has been saving +1s for a while
[23:00]  * Gary enjoyed the bedtime reading....
[23:01] <ompaul> Gary, heh
[23:01] <LjL> "[23:53:55] <Thugacation> but not necessarily breaking any rule" was the self incriminating leap
[23:01] <ompaul> LjL, aye
[23:01] <LjL> he totally admitted he was intending to be as trollish as possible but with the guidelines in mind
[23:01] <Gary> I'd made my mind up last night...
[23:01] <ompaul> several of them
[23:02] <ompaul> Gary, ? if you can say
[23:02] <Gary> say what
[23:02]  * ompaul totally misread what you said
[23:03] <ompaul> Gary, sorry about that :-)
[23:03] <Gary> to be sure to be sure
[23:03]  * Gary hides
[23:04] <PriceChild> lol
[23:05] <Gary> ompaul, seen any leprechauns?
[23:05]  * PriceChild ponder's imitating gary's stereotype
[23:05] <Gary> yay
[23:05] <PriceChild> wth is a ' doing there....
[23:05]  * PriceChild ponders but doesn't ponder's
[23:05] <Gary> PriceChild, thats 11pm typing for ya
[23:06] <ompaul> PriceChild, your call, you're typing it
[23:06] <ompaul> dang I had to think about that
[23:06] <ompaul> I made up a joke yesterday - deliver it with about five seconds between each line
[23:07] <ompaul> So, if you were to tell a joke about lemmings,
[23:07] <ompaul> and .. you were to forget the punchline
[23:07] <ompaul>   would that be a cliff hanger ......
[23:08] <ardchoille> hah!
[23:08] <PriceChild> :)
[23:08] <ompaul> in a similar vein - blood
[23:08] <ardchoille> And I thought I was the king of bad jokes/puns
[23:08] <ompaul> ohh he is really pumping them out tonight
[23:09] <ompaul> ardchoille, every time you think, someone deletes windows
[23:09] <ompaul> :)
[23:09] <Gary> arghh too much, night all :p
[23:10] <ompaul> to be sure ......
[23:10] <ompaul>  /cs b gary :-)
[23:12] <ompaul> so my "pal" enrolled me in a photoshop course .... me ........................... photoshop .... and now I owe him 100 euros arrrgghhhh
[23:12] <ompaul> however on the +side
[23:12] <ompaul> 60% of the course work is camera releated
[23:12] <ompaul> related even
[23:12] <ompaul> that is what I want
[23:13] <ompaul> so I will bring along my gnewsense with gimpshop on it
[23:13] <PriceChild> hehe euros....
[23:13] <PriceChild> bring on the boosh references!!!
[23:13] <ompaul> sorry I can't use your software my religion stops me
[23:13] <ompaul> but I can learn your photo stuffs
[23:13] <ardchoille> PriceChild: hahaha
[23:14] <PriceChild> ardchoille, boosh fan?!
[23:14] <ardchoille> Not a chance
[23:15] <ardchoille> Monty Python, though, is another matter :)
[23:15] <ompaul> ohh here is the camera I will bring:  http://aponlinesl.com/tienda/images/canon_ixus_960is.jpg
[23:16] <ompaul> what is boosh?
[23:16] <ompaul> google don't teach me much on that
[23:16] <ardchoille> British comedy
[23:16] <ompaul> ahh that
[23:16] <PriceChild> ompaul, "The Mighty Boosh"
[23:17] <PriceChild> They wanted to call it The Mighty Stump..... wait no that's not suitable.
[23:17] <ompaul> PriceChild, the mighty boosh - who are the comics?
[23:18] <PriceChild> ompaul, http://youtube.com/watch?v=cHr1n30tHDs
[23:18] <ompaul> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mighty_Boosh
[23:19] <ompaul> PriceChild, ack
[23:21] <PriceChild> ompaul, ?
[23:21] <ompaul> looked at it
[23:21] <ompaul> nutty as all get out
[23:23] <ubotu> neverblue called the ops in #ubuntu (JellySandPaper)
[23:25] <LjL> tomaw: what was that?
[23:26] <tomaw> Thu 23:24:06 < artmachine> http://jestrabi.myminicity.com/ anyone?
[23:26] <tomaw> Thu 23:24:06 < artmachine> http://jestrabi.myminicity.com/ anyone?
[23:27] <tomaw> erm
[23:27] <ubotu> Odd-rationale called the ops in #kubuntu ()
[23:27] <ompaul> tomaw, spammer :)
[23:27] <tomaw> yes
[23:27] <ompaul> tomaw, no you are the spammer ;-)
[23:27]  * ompaul runs
[23:27] <tomaw> Oh, :(
[23:27] <ompaul> joke
[23:28] <tomaw> hehe
[23:28] <ompaul> ohh come on
[23:28] <Mez> LjL, removed the mute, incase we get a full ban list again
[23:28] <LjL> sure
[23:28] <nalioth> jellysandpaper was klined
[23:28] <LjL> i had removed it already tho ;)
[23:28] <ompaul> I killed a few earlier LjL need a word with you pm
[23:29] <ardchoille> nalioth: Thank you
[23:29] <Mez> LjL, no you didnt ...
[23:29] <LjL> [00:24:07] <JellySandPaper> No [00:24:08] <JellySandPaper> Help me [00:24:45] <LjL> you're echoing everything people say in #kubuntu [00:24:47] <LjL> make your client stop [00:24:56] <JellySandPaper> HOW [00:25:05] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-VERSION request to jellysandpaper. [00:25:07] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from JellySandPaper: mIRC v6.31 Khaled Mardam-Bey.
[23:29] <LjL> [00:25:07] <JellySandPaper> I got this from Hawkeee.com [00:25:12] <JellySandPaper> Says is best script [00:25:24] <LjL> i don't see why you need to use a script at all. [00:26:20] <JellySandPaper> Ok [00:26:26] <JellySandPaper> I removed all script [00:27:55] <LjL> come back when you have a real client
[23:29] <LjL> [00:26:45] *** LjL sets mode: -b %JellySandPaper!*@*
[23:29] <Mez> * Mez removes ban on %JellySandPaper!*@*
[23:30] <Mez> Ljl, and he was echoing everything from #ubuntu into #kubuntu
[23:30] <LjL> err yeah, so you removed the mute but i had already removed it... which is what i'm saying
[23:30] <nalioth> Mez: this is not the first trollbot we've seen recently
[23:30] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[23:30] <LjL> and yes, i know he was. that's why i banned him from #kubuntu
[23:30] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[23:30] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[23:31] <LjL> and #ubuntu
[23:31] <nalioth> Mez: and there is the botmaster
[23:31] <LjL> i was giving him the benefit of the doubt in #ubuntu, since he said he had disabled the script
[23:31] <LjL> but then he did it in #kubuntu so
[23:31] <Mez> I know nalioth
[23:31] <Mez> idiots.
[23:38] <PriceChild> I think we should stop calling them a "botmaster"
[23:39] <PriceChild> rather something else, more amusing and less amazing sounding
[23:39]  * crdlb votes for botkiddie
[23:39] <PriceChild> botbanana
[23:39] <ompaul> neither of the above
[23:40] <ompaul> how about twosecondtrolls
[23:40] <ompaul> tst
[23:40] <ompaul> they troll until the flood bot gets them
[23:41] <ompaul> ooh wow they race a bot - whose code just grows to catch them
[23:41] <ompaul> you need to make it what it is - a pointless worthless exercise
[23:41]  * nalioth has a few suggestions, unfortunately, this isn't #politics, so he can't say them
[23:50] <LjL> jpatrick: had enough of danroj
[23:50] <LjL> [00:50:11] [Notice] -danroj to #ubuntu-es-  te invito a mi canal ##linux-cool


[10:55] <kagz> hi any body around??
[11:26] <kagz> hi
[11:26] <kagz> any one around ??
[11:29] <kagz> hi anyone around???
[20:07] <kagz__> hi anyone around


[13:33] <vish> !test
[13:33] <vish> argh!
[13:34] <thorwil> unexpected result
[13:37] <vish> my damn ISP is down! i cant access http or bzr :/
[13:38] <vish> i though all access was off but i can irc :(
[13:39] <vish> thought*
[13:45] <thorwil> ah, so the only the worst of the 3 still works for you!
[13:47] <vish> exactly.. :s
[13:49] <knome> wot? the BEST of the three.
[14:20]  * darkmatter is having a kludge.org discussion :D
[14:21] <darkmatter> errr... xorg. I always misspell that
[14:50] <kwwii> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown is done!
[14:52] <thorwil> i vaguely recall i pasted that link yesterday ;)
[14:52] <kwwii> lol
[15:02] <thorwil> lol. i'm creating my profile on behance.net. selected country Germany. enter "Mönchengladbach" for City. can't save the profile because behance demands a City form a fixed list of completions they offer. they don't even know Düsseldorf. should have tried Cologne, everyone seems to know that one
[15:04] <kwwii> lol
[15:04] <kwwii> I often find sites which are lacking in country info
[15:05] <kwwii> lots of sites are only set up to deal with american addresses as well
[15:05] <thorwil> sure, but i think that's the first time i see City as anything but a free-form entry
[15:07] <kwwii> yeah, true
[15:41] <darkmatter> ahhh... much more consistent now, plus better visibility on inactive tabs!
[15:47] <darkmatter> kwwii: thorwil: vish: which do you think looks better, http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7913/screenshotey.png or http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/733/screenshot1jf.png ?
[15:47] <akgraner> Hi!  I am probable about to ask a question that is annoying as "is it out yet" so forgive me - but will the new font be ready on the 29th released sooner?  just curious looking at redoing the font part of the Ubuntu Women Project Logo
[15:48] <akgraner> probably  even
[15:48] <akgraner> spelling fail today :-(
[15:49] <vish> darkmatter: /me blind right now .. ISP fail :/
[15:49] <darkmatter> :/
[15:51] <kwwii> akgraner: I do not think that the font will be ready in time for lucid
[15:52] <kwwii> akgraner: we will have logos ready but not the whole font
[15:52] <kwwii> darkmatter: I prefer the one without the toolbar line/bg
[15:53] <thorwil> darkmatter: ^ same
[15:54] <darkmatter> ok. thanies :)
[15:57] <akgraner> kwwii, ahh ok :-) cool I only need the b, e, m, n, o, t, u , and w   hehe :-D  (just teasing)  thank you I appreciate the quick answer  - you all rock!!!
[16:34] <darkmatter> http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/4502433153/
[16:43] <darkmatter> I'm considering changing the roundness for menu items to 1 pixel though
[17:22] <kwwii> darkmatter: I think that would be an improvement
[18:51] <akgraner> kwwii, ping got 5 mins? mind a PM?
[19:48] <darkmatter> bleh. I'd love to keep rounded menu items, but the bloody gtk devs can't seem to include a basic algorithm in the core to round the corners on the menus themselves, lol
[20:54] <darkmatter> haha! crispy listview headers :D http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1153/screenshotoq.png


[01:34] <cmaloney> morning
[04:49] <greg-g> g'night
[05:17] <_stink_> good job today every1
[05:36] <cmaloney> <3
[06:38] <Scary_Guy> morning
[13:54] <cmaloney> morning
[16:52] <gamerchick02> happy saturday everyone
[19:54] <cmaloney> Howdy
[20:24] <gamerchick02> whew. been a day. has anyone here gotten asked for a ride at an Arby's? this is the second time i've been approached at the Arby's on Walton and Perry/Opdyke for either money (because someone "ran out of gas") or a ride.  like really?
[20:25] <gamerchick02> it's totally disconcerting. "did you drive?" "yes." "can i get a ride?" "no."
[20:26] <gamerchick02> i was rude, but at this point in my life, i've gotten over the "oh crap, better not be rude to a total stranger even if they threaten my time/life/money/etc".
[20:27] <gamerchick02> i think the asker was taken aback that i said "no" with no question in my voice or hesitation to think.
[20:34] <Scary_Guy> tell them to download uber, if they can't do that tell them to make better life decisions
[20:34] <gamerchick02> maybe i should be nicer but damn.
[20:34] <gamerchick02> i'm getting crotchety in my old age.
[20:35] <cmaloney> heh
[20:35] <Scary_Guy> I'm slightly more outgoing but I'm also armed.  Way more likely if I have someone else in the car too
[20:36] <gamerchick02> i'm not armed unless you count my pocketknife.
[20:36] <Scary_Guy> was outside of Small's last month and some homeless woman was begging for food for her kids in the park.  another patron went and bought her a pizza.  so she's carrying around this pizza begging for more food
[20:37] <gamerchick02> this woman looked down on her luck (sorry lady) and she reeked of ciggies.
[20:37] <Scary_Guy> food money*
[20:37] <Scary_Guy> people tend to make their own luck :/
[20:38] <gamerchick02> food money? yeah when i was in flint i was downtown at GFAC and some guy was like "i'm hungry and can't afford food" and one of the members of my Rotaract group was like "ok, i'll get you a halo burger" and the guy was like "no i want mcdonalds"
[20:38] <gamerchick02> please note, mcdonalds is a DRIVE from GFAC and halo burger is next freaking door.
[20:38] <Scary_Guy> apparently beggars can be choosers
[20:39] <gamerchick02> my rotaract friend was like "no if you want me to get you something to eat, then you get halo burger."
[20:39] <gamerchick02> begging guy wandered off
[20:40] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLwtMM4Hoac  completely NSFW, but hilarious
[20:40] <gamerchick02> if i was younger i might have hesitated in my "no" to this woman. i'm glad i'm An Old now (and i think she was older than me, but whatever) and have enough life experience to just say no to these people. it's hard sometimes, but geez.
[20:40] <gamerchick02> oh and cmaloney, she did have a cell phone
[20:41] <cmaloney> Um, I'd fucking take Halo Burger any day of the week over McDs
[20:41] <Scary_Guy> probably has less cardboard content at least
[20:41] <cmaloney> Halo burger actually has a picture of the meat that you'd be eating on the door
[20:41] <Scary_Guy> how old are you?
[20:42] <gamerchick02> i'm 36.
[20:42] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKWYLtJLW5o I'm going to use this all year until it's no longer relevant
[20:43] <gamerchick02> i'm comparing it to when i was 23. i might have hesitated back then.
[20:43] <gamerchick02> HAH i love that, Scary_Guy
[20:43] <Scary_Guy> at this point I'm more likely to say yes, what's the worst that can happen?  I get killed?  awesome, less bullshit I have to put up with then
[20:44] <gamerchick02> cmaloney, halo burger is delicious and if i was begging i would be freaking STOKED to get that instead of mcd's.
[20:44] <cmaloney> Yeah
[20:44] <cmaloney> so this person's judgement can't be trusted
[20:44] <cmaloney> you made the right call
[20:45] <Scary_Guy> person was begging for cash for food, so the decisions that lead them there already indicate strongly that they should not be trusted :/
[20:45] <gamerchick02> i miss it. i think there's one somewhere around in the metro d area but i don't want to drive an hour for it. if i'm going to do that, i'm going up to the outlet mall.
[20:45] <Scary_Guy> I'm not saying everyone is bad, some people really do need the cash and are just victims of the system...  most others however...
[20:46] <gamerchick02> yeah, i know. i'm jaded from my time in flint.
[20:46] <Scary_Guy> Is it prepared by a Master Chef?
[20:46] <gamerchick02> and this approach here in (technically) Pontiac just sealed my grumpy heart deal
[20:47] <gamerchick02> halo burger? probably not, but it's delicious. QP + cheese - mayo + pepper rings is heaven
[20:47] <Scary_Guy> I hang out in the D a ton, I see some homeless but I think they buss most of them to Pontiac and Flint
[20:47] <gamerchick02> i lived in the rich white kid apartment complex across from Kettering, so luckily i didn't have anyone coming to my door.
[20:47] <Scary_Guy> http://globalgeeknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Master-Chief-is-a-Master-Chef.jpg
[20:48] <gamerchick02> you know the one, the one with the 12 foot fence and the razor wire on top with the barbed wire too.
[20:48] <gamerchick02> Scary_Guy, HAH i love that one too
[20:48] <Scary_Guy> automated gun turrets?  yeah sounds awesome
[20:48] <gamerchick02> no.
[20:48] <Scary_Guy> damn
[20:48] <gamerchick02> but i do know there were a couple KU kids who carried in their backpack
[20:49] <gamerchick02> technically the campus is "gun free" but we knew the kids who carried. asked one of them to walk me to the 7-11 once. he was a nice kid.
[20:49] <Scary_Guy> all the other kids with their pumped-up kicks?
[20:49] <gamerchick02> HAH we were all kids with not much life experience back then.
[20:50] <Scary_Guy> do you like Mondays?
[20:50] <gamerchick02> ah to not be worried about things, just walkin around in flinttown
[20:50] <gamerchick02> since i have my new job, i love Mondays. why?
[20:50] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yteMugRAc0 I have a softspot about songs referencing school shootings :/
[20:53] <Scary_Guy> or in that case, in tribute to the victims.  mental health services in this country (and state, thanks Engler) suck
[20:54] <gamerchick02> yes they do and i think that's one of the reasons why we have people asking for food and rides at the Arby's on Walton and Perry.
[20:54] <Scary_Guy> that and the drug war
[20:55] <gamerchick02> the drug war. sounds like the skeleton war. too bad it's not harmless like the skeleton war.
[20:56] <Scary_Guy> doot doot.  anyway yeah, if we treated the drug epidemic as a treatment issue rather than an enforcement issue people could get help without fear of also being locked up/branded as addicts
[20:56] <Scary_Guy> also it would reduce the black market to nothing
[20:56] <gamerchick02> +1 i agree
[20:57] <gamerchick02> ALSO for all the Bob Ross fans in the audience: http://www.scarymommy.com/target-bob-ross-board-game/?utm_source=glp&utm_campaign=GLP&utm_medium=partner
[20:58] <Scary_Guy> not what I'd expect a site called "scarymommy" to be about but okay
[20:58] <gamerchick02> hah same
[20:58] <gamerchick02> ok i'm going to watch some murder she wrote. i do not know why i love this show but i do
[20:58] <Scary_Guy> I was expecting more like a Casey Anthony site or something
[20:59] <Scary_Guy> okay, yeah you are old :p
[20:59] <gamerchick02> peace and i might pop in on a commercial break (ps i love cozi tv)
[20:59] <Scary_Guy> Matlock on after that?
[20:59] <gamerchick02> hey now, i watched this when i was a kid
[20:59] <Scary_Guy> fair enough, I do the same
[20:59] <gamerchick02> uh, i think the 6 million dollar man is next. then the bionic woman, then columbo. and yes, i do like matlock
[21:00] <Scary_Guy> Car 54 Where Are You?
[21:00] <gamerchick02> :)
[21:00] <Scary_Guy> My Three Sons
[21:00] <gamerchick02> never got into that one
[21:01] <Scary_Guy> It was on and I was bored as a kid.  Nick-at-Nite was a great distraction
[21:01] <Scary_Guy> anyway TTYL, I'm going to try to get some sleep before the game night house party/Small's/City Club night of doom starts
[21:02] <jrwren> i thought they bus a lot of homeless to AA
[21:02] <Scary_Guy> no, the scoops get them and take them to the factory to get "processed"
[21:02] <gamerchick02_> ooof
[21:02] <gamerchick02_> hey i got irc on my chromebook
[21:02] <gamerchick02_> :)
[21:13] <gamerchick02_> i'm  using hte Byrd client, if anyone is interested
[22:51] <jrwren> anyone know wine verywell? does it support ipv6?
[22:55] <jrwren> nm, supports it fine.


[03:10] <cyberanger> wrst: alive
[03:10] <cyberanger> hey chris4585
[03:14] <elijah-mbp> *heh*
[03:14] <elijah-mbp> i laugh at people who show up in irc channels, ask if anybody is around, and then leave 2min later.  just happened in #joyent - what a pain.
[03:17] <cyberanger> seems common unfortunately
[03:18] <elijah-mbp> very.
[03:18] <elijah-mbp> i just tweeted to his #ircnick, maybe he'll see that :)
[03:30] <chris4585> just got home from TN
[03:30] <chris4585> been in a car 14hrs
[04:18] <Juzzy> any of you guys use netflix?
[04:18] <Juzzy> Is the list of movies/show you see as a visitor the same if you are a member? (realativley small number, 20 or so per category)
[04:24] <chris4585> meh I just use my playstation and the ps store
[04:28] <Juzzy> ah
[04:29] <chris4585> I tried the netflix thing on the ps3 but it wanted a credit card and I was like... eh maybe later
[04:29] <Juzzy> yea
[07:34] <cyberanger> I'm sure somebody will get a kick outta this: http://imgur.com/gallery/siGDR
[12:05] <chris4585> cyberanger, lol
[12:26] <cyberanger> chris4585: glad you like it
[12:27] <cyberanger> run it as root, just to be sure, nothing works when run as bp
[12:54] <wrst> morning everyone!
[13:24] <cyberanger> morning wrst, just had my dinner, steak and shake, yum
[13:24] <wrst> ahh yes been a while but i love me some steak and shake!
[13:24] <cyberanger> where'd wrst_natty go
[13:24] <cyberanger> ?
[13:26] <cyberanger> wrst: I'm fairly sure you have a sns there, why not go now ;-)
[13:26] <wrst> work kinda in the way, and its in cookeville!
[13:27] <cyberanger> btw, I meant dinner, steak and shake meal, double steak burger, strawberry shake, fries and chili, not breakfeast
[13:28] <wrst> yeah i have given up on you ever sleeping a  normal schedule cyberanger :)
[13:28] <wrst> what have you been up to?
[13:28] <cyberanger> wrst: fairly sure, near the interstate, thought I saw it in aug.
[13:29] <wrst> oh yeha i've been there several times :) but i'm not in cookeville right now
[13:29] <cyberanger> well, that'sright for sleep, goes for meal time and type too
[13:29] <cyberanger> where are you then?
[13:30] <wrst> i work in monterey, live in livingston, but go to cookeville to do anything else
[13:32] <cyberanger> I've been planning out a makerspace/coderspace/hackerspace, working on shipping logistics (alaskan bush, not as dead simple as I'd wish)
[13:32] <cyberanger> and trying to come up with some ideas for #swissknife-router
[13:33] <cyberanger> not to metion, looking for work
[13:34] <cyberanger> wrst: so to sum up my answer, everything I can
[13:36] <wrst> cool cyberanger
[13:37]  * cyberanger tries to recall where montery is
[13:38] <wrst> east of cookeville in putnam county cyberanger
[13:39] <cyberanger> interstate or federal route go through it
[13:40]  * cyberanger is tring to recall a trip where I've been through there, odds are good that I have
[13:41] <cyberanger> rotten problem of being carless, the trips become rare, easy to forgeet
[13:44] <wrst> you would have missed it if you had blinked
[13:44] <cyberanger> wrst: sounds like I've been that way, back in 2009 I'd bet
[13:45] <wrst> yeah i'm sure you have been not much worth having here :)
[13:46] <cyberanger> the name sounds fimmilar (plus your statement on rual area) it'd been for rock climbing probally
[13:54] <wrst> that coudl have been possible
[13:55] <cyberanger> idk, it's hard to say wrst, I'm the kinda person that'd go anywhere once, like rock climbing and rafting
[13:56] <cyberanger> rock climbing in that area is common
[13:56] <cyberanger> I know it wasn't skydiving........yet
[13:57]  * cyberanger really want's to jump out of a perfectly good airborne plane
[13:57] <wrst> cyberanger: you are crazy!
[13:57] <cyberanger> yeah, but I'm your kind of crazy
[13:58] <cyberanger> many of my ideas are crazy, the question is are they crazy enough ;-)
[14:02] <cyberanger> wrst: who else is crazy enough to irc chat with 20kbps or less :-)
[14:04]  * cyberanger is a crazy geek
[14:07] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger
[14:07] <wrst> i will certainly pass on teh 20kbps or less :)
[15:31] <Dan9186[MM]> any suggestions on a firewall management app?
[15:39] <cyberanger> Dan9186[MM]: for what firewall?
[15:41] <Dan9186[MM]> found what i was wanting actually, just couldn't remember the name of it
[15:41] <Dan9186[MM]> iptables
[15:43] <cyberanger> ah, good ol' netfilter iptables combo, my choice too
[15:46] <cyberanger> when you said management app, though you possibly wanted a frontend for iptables or a cisco device
[15:49] <Dan9186[MM]> front end would be nice, mostly though i just look to yall for suggestions of any type because i learn somethin new every time
[15:50] <Svpernova09> iptables? /runs away in the other direction screaming
[15:50] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: what's the fear?
[15:51] <Dan9186[MM]> he doesn't like ubuntu :P
[15:51] <Dan9186[MM]> just throwin that out there
[15:51] <Svpernova09> lol
[15:51]  * Dan9186[MM] runs away in fear
[15:51] <Svpernova09> I've had horrible experiences with iptables.
[15:51] <Svpernova09> Mainly my own lack of understanding / willing to fully understand the proper usage
[15:52] <cyberanger> iptables isn't ubuntu, it's any modern linux kernel
[15:52] <Dan9186[MM]> i.e. how do you bring a system to a screeming halt?
[15:52] <Svpernova09> And I've never been in a position where I've had to use it. I've always depended on hardware firewalls. Which is probably not ideal.
[15:52] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: knowing what your doing helps, what were you wishing todo
[15:53] <Dan9186[MM]> cyberanger: yeah knew that, was just lookin to throw some more grief his way
[15:53] <Svpernova09> oh, this was ages ago.
[15:53] <Dan9186[MM]> when you say that i envision dinosaurs...
[15:53] <cyberanger> idk, I use a hardware firewall myself, the firewall ran linux ;-)
[15:55] <cyberanger> hardware is favored, but the hardware's gotta run software to do it's job, to do it's job right, it must be secure too
[15:55] <Svpernova09> Here at work we use 2 Linksys RV082 routers. I've got some pretty awesome stuff happening with it's software.
[15:58] <cyberanger> if I recall, those are linux too
[15:59] <Svpernova09> I believe they are. I haven't done anything outside of the web management though. They're both in production use since the day we bought them.
[16:00] <Svpernova09> Any tinkering has to be done off hours.
[16:01] <cyberanger> naw, you can do it ;-)
[16:01] <cyberanger> tinker the hell outta it
[16:02] <cyberanger> mine are 24/7 I just get it right or revert back
[16:05] <Svpernova09> hehe
[16:14] <cyberanger> failure is ok, the only wrong answer is never trying, and giving up
[16:16] <cyberanger> but I try hard to get it right the first time
[18:01] <wrst> hello pace_t_zulu
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> hey wrst
[18:01] <wrst> how are you doing pace_t_zulu?
[18:01] <pace_t_zulu> good, yourself?
[18:02] <wrst> pretty good natty has gotten interesting
[18:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: how so?
[18:03] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you using that unity ppa?
[18:04] <wrst> that pretty well caused things to get really bad, so i reinstalled and have not gotten things working yet
[18:04] <wrst> going to downloa the daily and see what happens when i get home
[18:11] <pace_t_zulu>  wrst yea... natty is a lot smoother than a week ago
[18:11] <wrst> yeah but that's cool that's part of it :)
[18:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrst it is fun to watch
[18:11] <wrst> yes it really is
[19:40] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: the current daily live iso for natty installs without a hitch
[19:41] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: new compiz packages have landed since the daily live iso was built
[19:41] <wrst> i need to pick that up pace_t_zulu
[19:41] <wrst> wow pace_t_zulu, its netritious
[19:41] <netritious> lol hi wrst
[19:41] <pace_t_zulu> hey netritious
[19:42] <netritious> hey pace_t_zulu
[19:42] <pace_t_zulu> they're applying the new branding to wiki.ubuntu.co
[19:42] <pace_t_zulu> the new branding is only there if you don't log in
[19:42] <netritious> how was everyone's Thanksgiving?
[19:42] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: yes I noticed that
[19:46] <wrst> it was good and hectice netritious how about you?
[19:47] <netritious> same for me...driving to one side of town then opposite direction for the other...every year lol
[19:48] <netritious> but it's all good...i love all the food I don't get to eat most of the year and seeing family of course
[19:51] <wrst> we head from the northern part of the state to the southern part of the state... luckily TN isn't nearly as thick as it is wide
[19:52] <netritious> hehe yeah...my travels aren't nearly as rough as yours
[19:52] <netritious> so are you surprised to see me wrst? :P
[19:52] <wrst> mine aren't too bad netritious, but sometimes i like to just be lazy for a holiday
[19:52] <wrst> yeah netritious you have been a busy man lately
[19:53] <netritious> true but won't ever forget about the loco ;)
[19:54] <wrst> but i'm glad business is good for you
[19:54] <netritious> thanks wrst...been flooded with repairs for the past few months
[19:55] <wrst> that's cool i enjoy doing some repairs albeit i'm not as skilled as you but I enjoy taking things apart
[19:55] <netritious> jumping from desktop to desktop isn't conducive to holding an online conversation if you know what I mean
[19:55] <netritious> Windows and ignorance unfortunately keeps me in business
[19:56] <netritious> but even that business is better than no business ;)
[19:57] <netritious> and forgot to add storms...the storm season took out a few computers...ppl bring them to me to certify for their insurance companies
[19:58] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: another build of compiz...
[19:58] <pace_t_zulu> 2 in one day... interesting
[19:58] <netritious> idk what it is about northern MS wrst, but something is up with the general wiring or maybe the utility company...
[19:58] <wrst> wow pace_t_zulu, sounds cool to me :)
[19:59] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: do you need a certification to certify those computers?
[19:59] <wrst> netritious: i have that issue here at my work... but my house less than 20 miles away never an issue
[20:01] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: I don't think so
[20:02] <netritious> I got my A+ a decade ago though if it ever comes up
[20:02] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: so how does the insurance company know you are legit?
[20:02] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: so did i ... never needed it though
[20:03] <netritious> I have no idea. They do call the shop according to my partner so maybe that's the only check they do...to verify you are brick and mortar
[20:03] <netritious> they pay so little though I don't think it's a great loss to them
[20:03] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: so you have a shop with a physical address ...
[20:03] <netritious> of course..2136 W Stateline Rd Suite I Southaven MS 38637
[20:04] <netritious> I'm usually not there though ;)
[20:04] <netritious> if it's only one or two PCs I do the work at the shop, otherwise I load them up and bring them to the house where I have more space
[20:05] <netritious> wrong zip...38671
[20:05] <wrst> well placed plug netritious :)
[20:06] <netritious> :D
[20:09] <netritious> built a new server for a local payroll processing firm...the old server works but outdated...built the old one 8 years ago
[20:10] <netritious> other than that everyone is buying name brand now, minus a few hobbyists that appreciate a computer with nice OEM parts
[20:10] <netritious> what about you pace_t_zulu...you doing consulting still or working full time some where?
[20:11] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: both
[20:11] <netritious> cool..what kind of consulting do you provide?
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: ill defined
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: "IT Consulting"
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: maybe i could get some ideas from you
[20:15] <netritious> well you have to start somewhere, right?
[20:15] <netritious> sure hit me up anytime
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: yea... that's the idea
[20:15] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: cool
[20:16] <pace_t_zulu> netritious: thanks
[20:16] <netritious> np
[20:16] <wrst> this is interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/24/armys-revolutionary-rifle-use-afghanistan/?test=faces
[20:16] <netritious> that is a bad ass rifle
[20:17] <netritious> "range of roughly 2,300 feet"
[20:18] <netritious> that's almost half a mile
[20:19] <wrst> yeah and that whole being able to have it to explode above and just beyond the barrier is just bad
[20:19] <netritious> I'm not into guns but I'm into high tech and that rifle definitely fits the bill
[20:21] <netritious> my wife on the other hand IS into guns...she got her carry permit renewed this year
[20:22] <netritious> she used to not be, but worked in a really bad part of town a while back (a company that finally moved to the other side of memphis long after everyone else had)
[20:23] <netritious> so I talked her into going to Range Masters and taking the course, choosing a weapon, and getting her permit
[20:27] <wrst> i'm not a real gun person but i do like to go out and shoot some inanimate object from time to time
[20:29] <netritious> well after she got there and started shooting she fell in love lol...she practices down on some property in byhalia owned by my uncle
[20:30] <netritious> I did a bit of deer and quail hunting with my dad when I was a kid using a good ole scatter gun and rifle, but I've never shot a pistol
[20:31] <wrst> i'm not a hunter really, i like farm raised food
[20:31] <netritious> I got into bow hunting when I was a teenager, but haven't been hunting since I was 18-19
[20:31] <wrst> and by that i mean i like beef pork etc not a vegan :)
[20:31] <netritious> hehe :D
[20:31] <wrst> you cant get to looking like me by being a vegan :)
[20:32] <netritious> lol...you a big guy wrst? I am, but it's slowly going away...had to break down and buy some new clothes this year
[20:34] <netritious> I kept buying belts but eventually that stopped working lol
[20:34] <wrst> ha ha netritious well i'm getting there i've put my self on a diet
[20:34] <wrst> i stay pretty active or i wouldn't fit between the door post :)
[20:35] <netritious> lol
[20:35] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: from the article "costs up to $35,000 per unit"...
[20:35] <wrst> yes i saw that pace_t_zulu wow
[20:35] <netritious> pace_t_zulu: for that amount of money it better be a bad a** weapon ;)
[20:36] <wrst> sounds like it is
[20:36] <netritious> but then again we're talking about government sales where hammers cost $20,000
[20:36] <wrst> but dont' guess i would ever be legally able or financially able to purchase :)
[20:36] <netritious> brb
[20:36] <wrst> oh gosh netritious don't get me started, or i will go right wing whacko
[20:36] <netritious> lol
[20:38] <wrst> but hey pace_t_zulu maybe the rifle uses linux?
[20:38] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: with that price tag? unlikely... it probably runs windows server
[20:39]  * pace_t_zulu is kidding
[20:40] <wrst> ha ha pace_t_zulu
[20:40] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: they have to relicense it for each new user
[20:41] <wrst> ha ha
[20:45] <wrst> well pace_t_zulu i will have natty downloaded when i get home
[20:46] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: zsync?
[20:46] <wrst> no just did the html download i need to do that. i did that with maverick and forget
[20:46] <wrst> *forgot
[21:01] <chris4585> wrst, do you use amazon mp3?
[21:02] <wrst> chris4585: i do some
[21:02] <wrst> good selection and drm free my type of place :)
[21:02] <chris4585> wrst, you may enjoy this http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=tsm_1_fb_dmget3mp3s_20101129?docId=1000634471
[21:03] <chris4585> and anyone else, enter that code in and get $3 worth of amazon mp3 credit
[21:03] <wrst> wow thanks chris4585!
[21:04] <chris4585> yep :)
[21:05] <chris4585> nothing like free stuff
[21:06] <wrst> you got that right!
[21:12] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you should be able to update the iso by taking your command prompt to the directory containing the recent iso
[21:13] <pace_t_zulu> then run the following command
[21:13] <pace_t_zulu>  zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[21:13] <pace_t_zulu> adjusting for correct arch
[21:13] <wrst> yeah i think i can do that, seems like i did that last time also
[21:14] <wrst> thanks for the reminder pace_t_zulu!
[21:14] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: should save some time
[21:15] <wrst> goodness yeah saves a bunch of time, this is my first go of downloading teh iso
[21:15] <wrst> well iv'e treid it two other times and had a fail of sometype i hope this is successful
[21:16] <wrst> pace_t_zulu:  are you running it in a VM ?
[21:18] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yea
[21:20] <wrst> its grub sorta messed things up for me but not for sure if that was it or me or somethign inbetween :)
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: just did an install from the daily today
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> you should be ok
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> no major differences from maverick
[21:22] <wrst> yeah i will install it if i am ok or not :)
[21:23] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: alpha 1 this thursday
[21:23] <pace_t_zulu> alpha 1 gets 2 months
[21:37] <netritious> back
[21:40] <wrst> cool pace_t_zulu i may be ahead of the curve hopefully
[21:40] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you are definitely ahead of the curve
[21:41] <wrst> ha ha