[00:36] <BUGabundo> asac ping
[00:43] <fta> you don't have to accept right away, the bar stays there, just wait to be sure
[00:43] <fta> missed
[01:45]  * BUGabundo $ sudo shutdown -t now ; echo 1 lamb, 2 lamb, 3 lamb 4rrrr lammbbbb.....
[04:14] <micahg> where does firefox get its list of apps from?
[04:14] <micahg> to open files?
[09:13] <asac> back
[09:22]  * asac  gets zillions of mails :(
[09:56] <asac> fta: oh songbird work ;)
[10:57] <fta> asac, i assume you mean the commit emails, because otherwise, it doesn't work at all, they once again changed everything
[10:58] <asac> :(
[11:00] <asac> fta: btw, do you plan to do any gwibber updates in karmic real archive? or who does the in-archive maintenance?
[11:00] <asac> oh there was an update on 12th june
[11:00] <asac> nm then
[11:06] <fta> !info gwibber
[11:07] <fta> !info gwibber karmic
[11:07] <fta> who did that?
[11:11] <asac> fta: the guy in the changelog. dont you know him?
[11:12] <asac> -- David Futcher <<EMAIL_ADDRESS> Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:59:01 +0100
[11:12] <fta> nope
[11:12] <asac> tse
[11:12] <fta> i guess he didn't use the branches, did he?
[11:12] <asac> jcastro: do you  know this guy ;)? i think some coordination within the gwibber team might make sense
[11:12] <asac> fta: most likely not :(
[11:13] <asac> interesting. i am in the changelog ;)
[11:15] <asac> fta: i write hima mail
[11:15] <asac> done
[11:15] <asac> told him to show up here ;)
[11:51] <asac> dtchen: i selected "pulse" in skype and what i get (karmic) is stuttering sound:
[11:51] <asac> RtApiAlsa: underrun detected.
[11:51] <asac> dtchen: i guess thats an application fault because i dont have the same prob with other apps
[11:51] <asac> but still, i wonder if thats something we can tune on our side
[12:12] <asac> hmm ... my network connection is bad today. let me reset the modem etc.
[12:47] <asac> fta2: will you push up the 3.5 RC1 builds? to karmic?
[12:47] <asac> if so plesae check bug 331654
[12:48] <asac> if not, i will do the update asap
[13:40] <fta2> i will
[13:40] <fta2> asac, ..but RC2
[14:04] <asac> good
[14:14] <jcastro> asac: yeah I know bobbo
[14:19] <Adri2000> hi
[14:21] <asac> hi
[14:25] <Adri2000> firefox -ProfileManager wasn't working... but then I realized I already had one firefox instance open :)
[14:26] <Adri2000> (on jaunty)
[14:27] <BUGabundo> boas tardes
[14:31] <BUGabundo> fta: asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198534/
[14:31] <BUGabundo> got a trace from FF 3.6 before it lost keyboard
[14:32] <BUGabundo> need to get the dgb libs for it
[14:58] <fta2> BUGabundo, for me, it didn't crash
[14:58] <BUGabundo> did you run it on gdb?
[15:00] <fta2> nope
[15:00] <asac> Adri2000: yeah thats an issue - though low prio
[15:00] <asac> (profile manager is not really supported upstream)
[15:02] <BUGabundo> fta then how were you expecting to see it ?
[18:07] <fta2> asac, is it possible to request a devirtualized PPA?
[18:08] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[18:08] <BUGabundo> having trouble,queue fta?
[18:08] <fta2> asac, like this one https://edge.launchpad.net/~mcasadevall/+archive/ppa
[18:08] <fta2> BUGabundo, no, just want to more arches
[18:09] <BUGabundo> well its failing to build LOL
[18:09] <BUGabundo> do you need arm ?
[18:11] <BUGabundo> btw fta you liked that IMO.im site?
[18:11] <fta2> ?
[18:11] <BUGabundo> I know its Flash but it very usefull
[18:11] <BUGabundo> no CPU usage, unlike skype (that uses 90% on my system)
[18:11] <BUGabundo> fta you fabed my dent yesterday about it!
[18:11] <BUGabundo> I have no idea how you manage to actually read it all LOLOL
[18:12] <fta2> did I? i've never faved any dent
[18:13] <fta2> cu in 1h.
[18:20] <BUGabundo> opps wrong fab "Fabian Rodriguez"
[19:24] <fta> stevel, hi, does songbird have an alternate branding? for dailies
[19:25] <stevel> fta: nope
[19:25] <BUGabundo> "fta you fabed my dent yesterday about it!"
[19:25] <BUGabundo> "I have no idea how you manage to actually read it all LOLOL"
[19:25] <BUGabundo> "opps wrong fab "Fabian Rodriguez" "
[19:26] <fta> BUGabundo, yep
[19:36] <fta> stevel, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/songbird/songbird.head/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/fix_xul_toolkit_bad_preprocessor_code.patch
[19:37] <fta> stevel, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/songbird/songbird.head/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/system_nspr.patch
[19:37] <Mook_sb> fta: amusingly, that first patch landed in XR <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[19:39] <fta> Mook_sb, well, it is obviously still needed to build sb trunk
[19:39] <Mook_sb> it is.
[19:40] <Mook_sb> we just got .11 on trunk :|
[20:17] <BUGabundo> fta: did any of those keyb freze happen some time close to using Flash?
[20:17] <fta> BUGabundo, i had 69 tabs, 1 with youtube
[20:18] <BUGabundo> it happened to me 3 times today
[20:18] <BUGabundo> all after or during using flash or youtube
[20:18] <fta> possibe
[20:18] <fta> possible
[20:19] <BUGabundo> it won't let go the keyboard
[20:19] <fta> everything's possible with flash
[20:19] <BUGabundo> hate when flash does that
[20:19] <fta> i hate flash
[20:21] <BUGabundo> how doesn't beside adobe?
[20:21] <BUGabundo> damn it
[20:21] <BUGabundo> can I kill flash and leave the browser?
[20:21] <BUGabundo> CONFIRMED
[20:21] <BUGabundo> its stuck inside the youtube vid
[20:21] <BUGabundo> TAB and space works
[20:23] <fta> file a bug
[20:23] <fta> looks like a regression to me
[20:23] <BUGabundo> where do I file it?
[20:23] <BUGabundo> adobe?
[20:23] <BUGabundo> mozilla?
[20:24] <BUGabundo> I haven't made any flash updates for a while
[20:24] <fta> if you have enough patience, grab previous dailies from lp to identify a window
[20:24] <fta> mozilla
[20:25] <BUGabundo> its been like this for a while
[20:25] <BUGabundo> like at least a week
[20:25] <fta> bisect by date
[20:26] <fta> dailies exist for that reason
[20:26] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOOLOL
[20:26] <BUGabundo> found a workaround
[20:26] <BUGabundo> that's why I always had trouble putting my finger on it
[20:27] <BUGabundo> open a link outside FF, and it will be freed
[20:27] <fta> or go to a console and come back to X
[20:27] <BUGabundo> naaa
[20:27] <BUGabundo> that doesn't work
[20:27] <BUGabundo> at least it didn't when I tried it
[20:27] <fta> faster if you're lucky enough to have a good kms
[20:28] <fta> did for me yesterday
[20:28] <BUGabundo> I have a some what dead Alt key
[20:28] <BUGabundo> can't make that fast enough I guess
[20:31] <fta> well, just 1 answer for songbird -daily, i guess it's not worth it
[20:31] <BUGabundo> eheh
[20:31] <BUGabundo> I saw that *one*
[21:21] <fta> fta       4974  0.8  1.9<PHONE_NUMBER>2 ?        Sl   Jun17  12:33 rhythmbox
[21:21] <fta> fta      12271 19.5  5.6<PHONE_NUMBER>56 pts/2   Sl+  22:06   2:55 /usr/lib/songbird/./songbird-bin
[21:22] <fta> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
[21:22] <BUGabundo> hum
[21:22] <fta> Mook_sb, ^^ :(
[21:22] <BUGabundo> isn't that a tad too muc?
[21:23] <Mook_sb> is it doing anything interesting?
[21:23] <fta> and mashtape is disabled
[21:23] <Mook_sb> (scanning metadata? organizing files? eating babies?)
[21:23] <fta> nope, it's idle, paused
[21:24] <fta> same library as rhythmbox
[21:24] <BUGabundo> babies??? LOL
[21:24] <BUGabundo> that _almost deserved to be redentd
[21:24] <Mook_sb> :( I don't suppose you can get a stack?
[21:24] <BUGabundo> but then fta gets mad at me
[21:25] <fta> I need to rebuild it, as i forgot to preserve the symbols
[21:26] <Mook_sb> sorry about the suck :(
[21:28] <fta> i still miss a native systray icon and multimedia keys (my gnome key bindings)
[21:29] <fta> and notifications
[21:29] <Mook_sb> extensinos/systray _may_ work. or it may not. or maybe it doesn't build at all.
[21:29] <BUGabundo> fta: I miss to be able to press my power button
[21:32] <fta> Mook_sb, it doesn't build, needs gtk/glib symbols at link time.
[21:33] <Mook_sb> thanks for checking.
[21:34] <fta> easy to fix though
[21:35] <fta> ok, got an xpi.
[22:03] <fta> Mook_sb, i thought --with-songbird-extensions=systray would have added it to the build&install but apparently, it's not even built
[22:03] <Mook_sb> fta: no, you want --with-extensions=systray
[22:04] <fta> oh
[22:04] <Mook_sb> --with-songbird-extensions actually means --with-poti-private-extensions-not-in-publicsvn
[22:04] <fta> ok, btw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/198770/
[22:04] <Mook_sb> thanks
[22:04] <Mook_sb> stevel: do we have a contrib agreement from fta? :)
[22:05] <fta> nope, just take the patch, i don't mind
[22:05] <Mook_sb> yeah, we probably don't need it for something that trivial / obvious anyway :)
[22:05]  * Mook_sb just likes to pass the buck XD
[22:06] <fta> i'm not looking for credits, fame or anything
[22:06] <stevel> fta: nope.. but yeah, that's a trivial enough patch we can just take it
[22:06] <fta> would be nice if you could take the other patches too, the less i carry, the better
[22:07] <Mook_sb> systray/ is easier to deal with because nobody else wants to touch it, so I get to do whatever :p
[22:10] <stevel> fta: which other patches?
[22:11] <Mook_sb> checked in.
[22:14] <fta> stevel, this one should be nice to have, as it's quick to rot: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/songbird/songbird.head/annotate/head:/debian/patches/system_nspr.patch
[22:15] <Mook_sb> that probably needs an actual bug filed
[22:16] <stevel> Mook_sb: if i filed one and attached the patch to it, would you r? it?  or do we need to have preed do it?
[22:16] <Mook_sb> stevel: preed would be better, yeah
[22:17]  * Mook_sb can also bikeshed, if preferred
[22:20] <stevel> Mook_sb: filed, attached, and r? thrown to preed. we'll see what happens
[22:20] <stevel> thanks fta
[22:22] <fta> thanks
[22:22] <fta> it wfm, if it matters ;)
[22:23] <stevel> a little bit.  :) more important whether it wfus. or maybe wfpreed
[22:44] <dtchen> asac: please use resample-method = speex-float-1 in ~/.pulse/daemon.conf
[22:45] <dtchen> asac: i've already made that change for the next pa upload
[22:45] <BUGabundo> hey dtchen
[22:45] <dtchen> hi
[22:45] <BUGabundo> asac: I can confirm that this option makes Audio much better!
[22:52] <fta> Mook_sb, obviously, this is needed too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198787/
[22:52] <Mook_sb> fta: not really; it's just not installed by default on release builds
[22:52] <Mook_sb> (but it _will_ generate the .xpi)
[22:52] <fta> it's not in dist/ so for me, it's needed
[22:53] <Mook_sb> it's in compiled/xpi-stage
[22:53] <Mook_sb> or you can build --enable-debug ;)
[22:53] <fta> i should not matter unless you buld with  --with-extensions=systray
[22:53] <fta> -i+it
[22:53] <Mook_sb> if you build without --enable-extensions=systray, it won't exist, at all
[22:54] <fta> yes
[22:54] <fta> but my patch won't hurt then
[22:55] <fta> i mean, when i build with --enable-extensions=something, i expect it to be installed too
[22:55] <Mook_sb> it will hurt windows, where it gets built by default (but not installed) :p
[22:55] <fta> eh?
[22:56] <fta> is --enable-extensions=systray used on windows?
[22:56] <Mook_sb> it's on by default on windows (to make sure it keeps building)
[22:56] <fta> well, nm, i'll keep the patch downstream
[22:56] <Mook_sb> or just install it manually post-install ;)


[06:55] <MooDoo> howdy all
[07:03] <MooDoo> how is everyone this morning?
[07:42] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:44] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon
[07:44] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[07:45] <MooDoo> :)
[07:50] <brobostigon> :)
[14:11] <andylockran> hey guy
[14:11] <andylockran> s and gals
[14:11] <andylockran> How's things?
[15:56] <diddledan> popey: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-inadyn-dynamic-dns-client/1513
[16:14]  * popey hugs diddledan
[16:14] <diddledan> yey
[16:32]  * DJones thows a bucket of cold water over diddledan and popey
[18:05] <daftykins> heh last time i tried inadyn it didn't work at all (standard package)
[22:24] <diddledan> nice sound. there's a hootie own outside
[22:24] <diddledan> owl*
[22:35] <zmoylan-pi> we have foxes and cats... you hear the foxes shrieks and wonder what sounds could be worse than that and then discover 2 moggies been romantic can out do practically any other noise at 3am


[03:33] <fer> I need help with a toshiba a100-999
[03:33] <fer> suspend to ram doesn't work
[03:35] <fer> hola, alguien con un toshiba a100 con nvidia a conseguido suspender el equipo?
[10:29] <John117> Hey everybody.  Can someone answer a question?
[10:59] <cypherdelic_>  How do I apply the fix for Bug # 144390. Please assist.
[10:59] <cypherdelic_>  update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[10:59] <cypherdelic_>  cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab -
[10:59] <cypherdelic_>  sda3_crypt /dev/sda3 none luks,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 -- this is the crypttab line, please help... :(


[00:16] <directhex> jtimberman, how long's it been in NEW?
[00:17] <jtimberman> Couple days, but they have an estimated 1 month backlog before it will be in Sid.
[00:17] <jtimberman> Trying to get Chef and dependencies in Karmic. :/
[00:18] <jtimberman> (And also in Debian while we're at it)
[00:47] <jtimberman> so i unarchived the merb package, since its in NEW but not in an APT repo, and fixing the findings from REVU, but it still complains about the maintainer field. I used the value specified in the Ubuntu packaging policy manual.
[00:47] <Laney> there's an update-maintainer script in ubuntu-dev-tools to do it for you
[00:59] <jtimberman> oh
[01:01] <jtimberman> It sets it to 'Ubuntu developers' not the MOTU team.
[01:11] <jtimberman> Laney: i'm packaging for Universe, shouldn't it be set to the MOTU team, not Ubuntu Developers?
[01:12] <Laney> it's in anticipation of archivereorg
[01:12] <Laney> u-d-d is good
[01:12] <Laney> goodnight
[01:14] <Ampelbein> jtimberman: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-May/028213.html for the maintainerfield setting, along with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveReorganisation
[01:15] <jtimberman> thanks Ampelbein
[01:19] <jtimberman> i take it the policy will be updated to reflect that then? :)
[01:19] <jtimberman> (at some point, not immediately)
[01:20] <Ampelbein> jtimberman: i guess so, otherwise it would not make sense ;-)
[01:20] <jtimberman> hehe :)
[01:20] <jtimberman> no worries, thanks for the pointer.
[02:48] <Hilikus> how do i add a PPA repo to the sources list inside my pbuilder?
[02:48] <Hilikus> or it will use the same sources as the systemL?
[02:50] <nellery> Hilikus: use sudo pbuilder login
[02:50] <Hilikus> i was trying to avoid that
[02:50] <nellery> then you can edit the sources.list from there
[02:50] <Hilikus> is there no switch or somethnig?
[02:53] <nellery> Hilikus: I think you can use --othermirror if my memory serves
[02:53] <nellery> see the manpage
[02:54] <Hilikus> i did, but the thing is, how do i add the public key?
[03:01] <maxb> Either don't, and just ignore the warnings, or sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login and make changes inside the chroot same as you would on a real system
[04:11] <jedc> Hi, i'm trying to learn how to package software and I am a little confused about the rules file. If the software I am packaging is already built what do i need to change in the rules file since I dont need to compile it?
[04:12] <hggdh> jedc, you will need to rebuild it under the rules. No binary-only packages...
[04:16] <jedc> ah i see, but it gets compiled when it get made into a package?
[04:18] <hggdh> it will be built yes. You can use debuild -b, or a pbuilder
[04:19] <porthose> jedc, I would suggest finding a package similar to the one you are trying to package and use it as an example :)
[04:20] <jedc> hmm, good idea, i will see if i can find one that is similiar
[05:20] <therm> Hello everybody out ther
[05:20] <therm> e
[05:21] <therm> I yesterday build my packages for karmic in my ppa and was wondering where they package eclipse-common-nls is for karmic?
[05:21] <therm> it exists for jaunty
[05:22] <therm> does somebody know about this?
[05:32] <fabrice_sp> therm, it has been deleted from Ubutnu: "It's too old, upstream released 3.5 but eclipse package in Debian is not updated"
[05:33] <fabrice_sp> well, really, it got deleted from Debian
[05:34] <therm> fabrice_sp: lol, and now I will have to package it myself right?
[05:35] <fabrice_sp> therm, you can upgrade the package, yes. I'm doing something similar for a package that didn't got updated since a long time in Debian, to have the latest version
[05:35] <therm> fabrice_sp: thx for the information
[05:35] <fabrice_sp> yw
[05:37] <YokoZar> Hmm, I'm trying to update ia32-libs and it keeps bombing with "Unable to find a source package for qt4-x11" -- what's weird is that apt-get source qt4-x11 seems to work just fine
[05:39] <therm> fabrice_sp: but how will I be able to get this to ubuntu or debian?
[05:40] <fabrice_sp> therm, for Ubuntu, open a bug report, and attach the diff.gz file of your packaging
[05:41] <therm> fabrice_sp: thx
[05:41] <fabrice_sp> for debian, I don't know.
[05:42] <therm> fabrice_sp: for me it is important that my packages run with ubuntu, but I would be nice to have to give it back to debian
[05:43] <fabrice_sp> TheMuso, given the timeframe you have for Karmic, I would say make it for Ubuntu, and try Debian after
[05:44] <fabrice_sp> TheMuso, sorry. Bad tab completion
[05:44] <fabrice_sp> therm, ^
[05:44] <YokoZar> ah hah, I see why... for some reason qtcore4 is version -0ubuntu2  while its source package is version -0ubuntu3
[05:45] <YokoZar> Is that due to a build failure?
[05:45] <fabrice_sp> YokoZar, yes
[05:46] <therm> fabrice_sp: thanks a lot, I will try to do so
[05:46] <fabrice_sp> YokoZar, in this case, the package has been uplaoded 3 hours ago, so it's not yet built
[05:46] <fabrice_sp> therm, yw
[05:47] <YokoZar> fabrice_sp: Oh, didn't realize the new source package would be moved into the archive before the binary was built
[05:48] <fabrice_sp> YokoZar, the binary are built from the source, so first source, then, if the package builds fine, binary. :-)
[05:48] <fabrice_sp> that's why it's better to look for source package is the package FTBFS :-)
[05:49] <ScottK> YokoZar: I was curious if you are generally interested in R?
[05:51] <YokoZar> ScottK: Yeah I'm big on that stuff I'm helping the RevoR guys get their stuff into Ubuntu
[05:52] <ScottK> YokoZar: OK.  I know mok0 is interested in R also.
[05:52]  * ScottK likes the idea of Ubuntu being a great R platform, but doesn't currenlty use it.
[05:52] <YokoZar> ScottK: do you have an interest or were you just syncing packages then? ;)
[05:53] <ScottK> Since Debian has such an active R effort from upstream, it seems a shame not to have it good in Ubuntu too.
[05:53] <ScottK> If someone else will mind after it, I don't mind a bit.
[05:55] <YokoZar> The debian maintainer for all these R stuff is more interested in them creeping into Ubuntu I believe
[05:56] <ScottK> He is.
[05:56] <ScottK> He was at the last UDS.  Did you see his plenary presentation?
[06:03] <YokoZar> ScottK: Yeah, I was at his session as well (I think I was one of two Ubuntu devs there...I assume the other was mok0)
[06:04] <ScottK> No, he didn't make it to UDS
[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[06:55] <porthose> good morning dholbach :)
[06:56] <dholbach> hi porthose
[09:49] <wizztjh> hiii
[09:50] <wizztjh> i need to find a mentor in UBUNTU!!!
[09:50] <wizztjh> anyone can help me , haha
[09:50] <wizztjh> i need to find a mentor in UBUNTU!!!
[09:53] <dholbach> wizztjh: easy! repeating your request isn't going to make it any quicker
[09:53] <RAOF> wizztjh: What specifically do you need?  Also, all-caps & repetition doesn't look very friendly.
[09:53] <dholbach> wizztjh: did you check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted and read the pages linked from it already?
[09:54] <dholbach> wizztjh: I suggest you mail the motu mentoring reception and while you wait check out those links and start playing with the tools as explained in the packaging guide to get some more idea...........
[09:54] <dholbach> oh well
[09:54] <Laney> wow
[09:55] <sebner> troll
[10:59] <slytherin> what is with freenode these days? Or is the netsplit seen only on ubuntu channels?
[11:30] <directhex> slytherin, freenode's been *good* lately!
[11:31] <slytherin> Am I the only one who sees soo many quit messages then?
[11:33] <artfwo> I see them as well, but that's been always happening in the east :)
[11:38] <Daviey> If you fork the debian packaging for use in another similar, but different package.. what should you do about debian/copyright?
[11:45] <Laney> keep the original debian/ copyright entries and add yourself after
[11:47] <Daviey> Laney: so the "This package was created by.."  It won't cause problems if that person is unrelated to it?
[11:48] <Laney> Daviey: If it's a new package I'd write a DEP5 copyright file anyway
[11:49] <Daviey> well i guess i could do a DEP5 one, and mention in the abstract that it is based on the package XXX by YYY ?
[11:49] <Laney> the important thing is just to keep the copyright and license of the original debian directory
[11:50] <Daviey> it's not as if there is actualy much there.. but now i've seen it - even if i write the packaging from scratch, i'm still tainted :)
[11:50] <Laney> I don't know that you need to mention that in copyright
[11:50] <Laney> I'd be tempted to put it in the changelog entry though
[11:51] <Laney> * Initial release, packaging modified from xxx source package
[11:52] <Daviey> sounds sane
[11:53] <Daviey> What Standards Version does DEP-5 become valid?
[11:57] <Laney> it's still a proposal now
[11:59] <james_w> if the packaging declares a license then you have to abide by it obviously
[11:59] <james_w> e.g. if it is GPL then you have to make yours GPL
[12:00] <Laney> indeed
[13:00] <ximion> Has someone enough time to recheck the smile package at revu? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/smile
[13:00] <ximion> I think it's ready now.
[13:07] <j^_> hi, what would be a good way to get a package into universe, so far its only in a ppa
[13:08] <artfwo> j^_, have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages ?
[13:26] <krisives> I made a backport of a package from Karmic to Jaunty, what can I do to get that into the repo?
[13:26] <krisives> It fixes a bug that many people are irritated with :D
[13:28] <nhandler> krisives: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[13:28] <krisives> Thanks
[13:29] <nhandler> You are welcome krisives
[13:29] <krisives> Is there a way to get a list of backported packages?
[13:32] <nhandler> krisives: What are you trying to do? Check if certain applications have already been backported? If so, I prefer to do 'rmadison PACKAGE', and check if it is in foo-backports
[13:34] <krisives> I made a backport for nautilus-open-terminal, which had a very irritating bug with SFTP in Jaunty. This was fixed in Karmic, and I simply built the backport
[13:34] <krisives> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~kives/wp/2009/08/nautilus-open-terminal-backport-for-jaunty/
[13:34] <krisives> Hehe, don't make fun of me :(
[13:34] <krisives> I'm just trying to help
[13:45] <garyvdm> Hi - Usan seems to be using a cached copy of the ?watch page". How can I get it to refresh
[13:45] <garyvdm> *uscan
[13:52] <hyperair> get rid of your caching proxy and retry
[13:52] <hyperair> uscan does no caching
[13:59] <slytherin> krisives: just search for package on packages.ubuntu.com
[13:59] <krisives> slytherin: I've already seen that the package isn't backported yet
[14:00] <slytherin> garyvdm: you can use uscan --verbose to get more details.
[14:02] <Laney> and --debug for even more
[14:24] <foolano> hi guys, it would be lovely if some of you could check the package I've uploaded to revu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libtext-dhcpleases-perl thanks ;)
[14:47] <slytherin> directhex: what is the status of ikvm from the point of view of this bug - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=269062
[14:49] <directhex> slytherin, it's still pretty useless for gui apps... and i don't know how compatible the command-line args are...
[14:49] <directhex> i think it's an interesting idea which would frighten upstream! :)
[14:50] <slytherin> directhex: if it is good for command line apps then it should have 'Provides: java2-runtime-headless'.
[14:51] <directhex> i would hesitate to use the words "good for"
[14:52] <directhex> it seems to work in my very basic checks, but i feel uneasy about anyone relying on it as "real" java
[14:57] <slytherin> directhex: is it active upstream? I mean do developers expect bug report?
[14:57] <directhex> yes, upstream is active
[14:59] <slytherin> then I guess it is good to let users know that it can work as jre and they can file bugs against it. :-)
[15:01] <directhex> what alternatives do i need to provide?
[15:01] <directhex> and which command-line apps do you suggest testing?
[15:02] <slytherin> directhex: java2-runtime-headless, java5-runtime-headless (if it is compatible), java6-runtime-headless (if it is compatible)
[15:02] <slytherin> directhex: bsh is what comes to mind immediately.
[15:07] <directhex> root@osc-bigmac:/usr/share/mkgmap# ikvm -jar mkgmap.jar --version
[15:07] <directhex> svn
[15:07] <directhex> well that one seems to work
[15:09] <slytherin> bsh has at least started. :-)
[15:09] <slytherin> And hello world has worked. :-P
[15:10] <directhex> karmic?
[15:10] <slytherin> jaunty
[15:10] <directhex> it's much improved in karmic. feel like trying a backport for testing?
[15:11] <bddebian> Heya gang
[15:11] <iulian> Hi bddebian.
[15:11] <slytherin> directhex: do you have backport ready?
[15:12] <bddebian> Hi iulian
[15:12] <directhex> slytherin, nope! ought to be simple to do though. i'll look at it later
[15:12] <slytherin> directhex: wait, I can try in Debian (testing). I am leaving now for home. Will be back online in an hour.
[18:00] <james_w> Jazzva: " The source is licensed under GPL v3, as pointed out by the upstream author
[18:00] <james_w>  in the e-mail.
[18:00] <james_w> "
[18:00] <james_w> Jazzva: which email?
[18:01] <Jazzva> james_w: was that related to some extension?
[18:01] <james_w> yeah
[18:01] <james_w> bugmail
[18:01] <james_w> the one you uploaded the other day
[18:02] <Jazzva> james_w: let me check. I think the new version has a license file. Did I miss to remove that comment from some file?
[18:02] <james_w> err...debian/copyright
[18:02] <Jazzva> james_w: yeah, found it :)
[18:03] <james_w> Jazzva: accepting anyway, but there's no need to introduce doubt where there is none :-)
[18:03] <Jazzva> james_w: Sorry about that, I forgot about that notice. I'll edit that and push to bzr.
[18:03] <james_w> and if you need to reference an email in debian/copyright then include the email, don't just refer to the "the email" because we need the record
[18:03] <james_w> thanks
[18:04] <Jazzva> james_w: that's left from previous upstream version, when the license file was not present, and I completely forgot to remove it.
[18:04] <Jazzva> james_w: thanks for accepting, and telling me how to do it right :)
[18:05] <Jazzva> I'll fix debian/copyright now, so the notice will not be there in the next upload :)
[18:18] <james_w> artfwo: nice job on debian/copyright for scantailor
[18:19] <slytherin> james_w: what is specifically nice about it?
[18:19] <james_w> it's complete
[18:19] <james_w> :-)
[18:20] <slytherin> :-)
[18:22] <james_w> it was the first time in a while I didn't have to reject a package that had multiple licenses covering the included files
[18:23] <james_w> normally people just include the main one, and don't check for others
[18:23] <slytherin> Does anyone happen to have access to a sparc machine? I need to test a FTBFS fix. The fix will probably ready in an hour.
[18:27] <artfwo> ah
[18:27] <artfwo> it was complete back when you have first reviewed it james_w
[18:27] <crimsun> slytherin: NCommander or TheMuso may
[18:27] <artfwo> but the new upstream release included more works my other authors
[18:28] <james_w> artfwo: still, good job
[18:29] <artfwo> thanks, I hope it will make its way to the archive
[18:30] <artfwo> huh
[18:30] <artfwo> it has already?
[18:30] <james_w> yep
[18:30] <james_w> I just accepted it
[18:30] <artfwo> great!
[18:30] <artfwo> my first real ubuntu package ever!
[18:31] <artfwo> and I hope not the last
[18:32] <james_w> congratulations
[18:34] <artfwo> and it already fails to build on armel:(
[19:34] <fabrice_sp> Hi. I'm having some issue with mime types. if I manually run "update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications" and "update-mime-database /usr/share/mime", it works after installing my package, but in postinst, I only have the update-mime-database call. What am I missing in my rules files? and then
[19:34] <chrisccoulson> fabrice_sp - that's unnecessary on karmic
[19:34] <chrisccoulson> they should run automatically on package install via dpkg-triggers
[19:35] <fabrice_sp> chrisccoulson, and in Jaunty?
[19:35] <chrisccoulson> perhaps not in jaunty
[19:35] <fabrice_sp> I'm testing the package in Jaunty
[19:35] <chrisccoulson> in jaunty, i think you still need to call dh_desktop in debian/rules
[19:35] <fabrice_sp> I'll check in a karmic VM, then
[19:35] <chrisccoulson> but that is deprecated in karmic
[19:36] <fabrice_sp> that makes sense: i saw a lot of 'dh_desktop is deprecated', but that's for karmic, you're right! I'll try with dh_desktop in Jaunty. Thanks!
[19:37] <chrisccoulson> you're welcome:)
[19:38] <stochastic> chrisccoulson, so if dh_desktop is depreciated in Karmic, what takes its place?
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> stochastic - nothing
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> all it did was add a postinst hook to call update-mime-database
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> but that isn't needed anymore as update-mime-database happens via dpkg-triggers magic when you install any files in to /usr/share/applications
[19:57] <j^> if i uploaded a package to revu and it does not show up, how can i find out why this is happening?
[19:57] <j^> the package i uploaded is called oggvideotools
[19:59] <geser> did you only upload the source (..._source.changes)?
[20:00] <j^> yes only source, orig and diff, uploaded to a ppa before and that worked fine
[20:00] <geser> and I don't know if it still the case, but you might need to login to revu once before you upload your first package so it can get your gpg key from LP
[20:00] <j^> ah, that could be the issue
[20:00] <j^> if that is the case, should i just upload it again?
[20:00] <j^> am logged in non revu now
[20:01] <geser> you can at least try it (else you need to wait for a REVU admin who can look into the logs)
[20:02] <j^> after upload, does it take some time to show up?
[20:03] <geser> the cron job who processes the uploads runs every 3 min
[20:03]  * slytherin is glad that reportbug is finally working. :-)
[20:19] <stochastic> I must say I'm starting to get dismayed about contributing to Ubuntu, it's just a little over two weeks from feature freeze but the bugfixes I've added to launchpad and the packages I've added to revu are all just sitting helplessly awaiting motu's action
[20:20] <stochastic> I know you guys are busy, but isn't there a team that works through these contributions?  it seems like that's been absent this cycle.
[20:21] <geser> there is
[20:22] <geser> but like most other MOTUs they are doing it in there free time
[20:23] <joaopinto> and the problem is not specific to this cycle, REVU is getting behind for some time
[20:24] <stochastic> I understand that, after all, my contributions are done in my free time too
[20:24] <geser> stochastic: I see that you are talking about new packages on REVU
[20:25] <stochastic> it's not just REVU, the bugfixes that I've subscribed universe sponsors to have sat inactive for almost a month now
[20:25] <geser> have you a bug number handy?
[20:27] <stochastic> hold on, launchpad is being slow
[20:27] <slytherin> stochastic: feature freeze just means no new versions of the packages. It does not mean bug fixes can not be done.
[20:28] <stochastic> Bug #325004
[20:29] <geser> REVU was always very slow on processing packages and I'm not doing seldom reviews as I prefer to get the packages we already have fixed instead of adding new one that nobody will look after later
[20:30] <stochastic> Bug #148585
[20:31] <stochastic> geser, but major features of upstream software depend on new libraries like http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/slv2
[20:31] <stochastic> Ubuntu is going to become an outdated operating system if the new libraries and formats don't get incorporated into the repositories
[20:32]  * stochastic realizes he's ranting now
[20:35] <geser> stochastic: the choice is sometimes not easy. I prefer no packages at all so users now that they need to compile it themselves or use some hopefully PPA (I know that opinion may sound hard) that to offer unmaintained and probably outdated packages from universe (where nobody will look at bugs)
[20:36] <jtimberman> stochastic: Ah, but not everyone wants the most bleeding edge latest version of the software... I suppose thats what RHEL is for ;)
[20:36] <jtimberman> But in 15 years of using Linux, Ubuntu is a far cry ahead of the curve when it comes to including the latest releases of software, generally speaking.
[20:37] <slytherin> if you want more bleeding edge, try Debian experimental. :-)
[20:37] <jtimberman> or gentoo ;)
[20:38] <stochastic> Bug #325004 is a prime example that goes against both your arguments, that package has needed an update since hardy and the official website states "DON'T USE ANY VERSION OLDER THAN 0.8"
[20:38] <norsetto> stochastic, feel free to work on it
[20:39] <stochastic> norsetto, I've added my debdiff and it's awaiting upload, but it's sat inactive and I'm worried it won't make feature freeze
[20:39] <stochastic> ^^ sorry, my diff.gz
[20:41] <stochastic> Anyway, I didn't want to start a big confrontation, I'm simply expressing my slight dismay that all my attempted contributions to Karmic seem to be sitting stagnant in either launchpad or REVU
[20:41] <mzz> jtimberman: gentoo stable isn't all that recent for most software, and for gentoo unstable it varies wildly
[20:42] <jtimberman> mzz Indeed, my comment was intended t obe snarky ;)
[20:42] <mzz> (please keep jokes about "gentoo" and "stable" being a contradiction to yourself :P)
[20:42] <norsetto> stochastic, there are 160 packages in the sponsor's queue and I don't know how many in revu, and an handful of people looking at those
[20:43] <stochastic> norsetto, so you're saying that the MOTU team is too small for the amount of contributions it's receiving?
[20:43] <jtimberman> mzz: I rarely keep jokes about Gentoo to myself, but as that's well off topic, I'll refrain from further ;)
[20:44] <norsetto> stochastic, your package is number 27 on the queue, so, just be patient and it will be processed
[20:45] <james_w> hey norsetto!
[20:45] <james_w> how are you?
[20:45] <stochastic> norsetto, what about these packages awaiting REVU any likelyhood they'll make feature freeze: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xwax       http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/a2jmidid      http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xjadeo        http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/slv2        and it's not mine but I'd really like to see it get included: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pyphat
[20:45] <norsetto> james_w, hi there
[20:45] <geser> stochastic: although there are around 100 MOTUs (incl. some core-dev) I don't know how many are currently really active and from those how many look at the sponsoring queue, probably too few :(
[20:46] <norsetto> james_w, pretty fine, and you?
[20:46] <james_w> good thanks
[20:46]  * slytherin nukes one bug from queue, it is already fixed.
[20:47]  * porthose waves at norsetto :)
[20:47]  * norsetto waves his queue at porthose
[21:00] <hggdh> all, I was chatting with a Gnome bugmeister, and he told me gnome-volume-manager is completely orphaned upstream. Is it time to drop it from Universe?
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> yes, gnome-volume-manager is not worth keeping around now
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> james_w ^^^
[21:28]  * ScottK waves to norsetto too.
[21:28] <ScottK> Long time no chat.
[21:28] <norsetto> hi ScottK, whats up?
[21:28] <ScottK> Hey norsetto.  Keeping busy.  Trying to make a Kubuntu for netbooks this cycle.
[21:29] <norsetto> ScottK, ha, that should keep you busy :-)
[21:29] <ScottK> Yep.  Working pretty good right now.
[22:50] <goatbar> Is this a good place for beginners trying to create new ubuntu source packages?
[22:53] <crimsun> goatbar: sure, but some reading is expected
[22:55] <goatbar> we are working on it.  I've been a fink developer (deb for Mac OSX) for many years, but that abstracts away a lot of directly dealing with creating debs and I haven't created a source deb before
[22:56] <goatbar> the two of us have already submitted 2 bug reports for the documentation today
[23:01] <crimsun> excellent
[23:05] <goatbar> when building a source package as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/HandsOn, should the debian directory really be inside of the unpacked original source tree?
[23:05] <jtimberman> goatbar: yes
[23:06] <jtimberman> the debian directory stores all the packaging bits, and the source is untouched unless you create any patches (dpatch or quilt) for it.
[23:10] <goatbar> Thanks.  We are trying to figure out how to source control the debian directory for our own work.  Is there a standard way of doing this?
[23:11] <goatbar> if we have a bunch of packages that we are working with before they end up in ubuntu (assuming that they get approved down the road)
[23:12] <jtimberman> a lot of the various packaging teams have different ways to do that, i don't think its really standardized. i have all my packaging bits on a repository on github, and i pull them down and toss into the package's debian directory.
[23:13] <goatbar> that's basically what we thinking
[23:13] <jtimberman> I'm sure someone more experienced than I can answer with a better recommendation, I just started working on packaging for Debian/Ubuntu a couple weeks ago.
[23:55] <james_w> chrisccoulson: was that a request to remove it?
[23:56] <chrisccoulson> james_w - yes, but don't worry about it yet - it still has some rdepends that i'm going to look at
[23:56] <chrisccoulson> when I get a chance anyway ;)
[23:56] <james_w> chrisccoulson: cool, thanks
[23:56] <james_w> a bug report is better anyway, as it leaves a paper trail
[23:57] <chrisccoulson> james_w - yeah, I think hggdh is looking at that. most of the rdepends seem quite trivial except one of them
[23:57] <chrisccoulson> but it would definately be nice to remove it, as it really does more harm than good now


[08:10] <ricotz> mamarley, hi, I copied 384 -- https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/13070583
[08:11] <ricotz> mamarley, also everytime you seems to be adding stray files, like the obsolete debian/dkms_nvidia/dkms.conf
[10:03] <mamarley> I'm not sure where those are coming from; I'm definitely not adding them manually.  I will look at the armhf failure.
[10:12] <mamarley> Looks like the armhf driver doesn't have a Vulkan ICD at all, causing the failure when it tries to sed the library name.  I will wrap that sed command in "ifneq ($(DEB_BUILD_ARCH),armhf)"
[10:24] <mamarley> ricotz: Actually, I did figure out where the garbage dkms.conf is coming from.  It looks like it gets put there when I do a full build to produce .debs, but never gets cleaned up.  Should I add a command to remove it in the override_dh_clean section in rules?
[10:35] <tseliot1> mamarley: override_dh_clean already calls regen-from-templates
[10:35] <tseliot1> that should give you a new dkms.conf
[10:36] <mamarley> tseliot1: It does; the problem is that the old one doesn't seem to get removed.
[10:37] <mamarley> I deleted them manually for this upload, but they come back whenever I run a local build.
[10:50] <ricotz> mamarley, create the source-package before you do a test-build
[10:50] <mamarley> OK
[10:50] <mamarley> ricotz: I uploaded the package with the armhf fix to https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging3/+packages and everything built.  Should I go ahead and copy it to the main PPA?
[10:52] <ricotz> mamarley, yes, please do
[10:52] <mamarley> Done


[09:43] <ben2talk> hi
[09:43] <thorwil> hello
[09:44] <ben2talk> I'm curious if everyone is having trouble with themes in 8.10 - I've been playing with it today, it's broken :((
[09:44] <thorwil> didn't upgrade, yet
[09:45] <ben2talk> hmmmm hold on then
[09:45] <thorwil> ben2talk: i suggest you have a look at launchpad to see if a bug has been filed
[09:46] <ben2talk> it was fine last night, and also after the upgrade until I installed some new themes - now themes are broken, I have lovely themes only if I sudo)
[09:46] <ben2talk> sure, bugs there - but maybe too soon, not much talk about anything yet
[09:47] <ben2talk> I had trouble before - with 8.04 - but now it says 'gtk+ engine not installed' - even when the theme is applied
[09:47] <ben2talk> thanks anyway :)
[09:48] <thorwil> i would point you to the responsible person here, but he would perhaps just point you to launchpad again ;) plus it's weekend and a holiday where he resides
[09:48] <thorwil> ugh
[18:33] <Nece228> i love new ubuntu 8.10 theme!
[19:52] <Spaz926> hey all
[20:15] <zniavre> o
[20:15] <Spaz926> Hey, all


[14:00] <Broam> expensive car repair ahoy....$2300 if I get it all done. More than car is worth. Time to go see what's essential and what can be deferred
[16:07] <JonathanD> eek
[16:07] <JonathanD> enough to make one want to ride a bike
[16:07] <JonathanD> instead
[17:37] <Broam> yes


[15:40] <jvrbanac> mhall119, I sent you those stacktraces.
[15:42] <mhall119> jvrbanac: thanks
[15:44] <mhall119> jvrbanac: ok, I see what's going on now, I'll push a fix in a minute
[15:45] <jvrbanac> mhall119, ok, sorry if I jumped the gun on that fix.
[15:47] <mhall119> jvrbanac: no worries, the other fixes were good
[17:04] <mhall119> http://mhall119.com/hangout/ live Q&A going on now
[17:27] <mhall119> jvrbanac: I've pushed a new revision for that return value type=
[17:27] <mhall119> and tested importing GLib and Gtk
[17:31] <jvrbanac> mhall119, awesome! Yeah that makes a little more sense. Btw, I was wondering if it was planned to include the inherited object methods and properties when someone is viewing a specific class.
[17:33] <mhall119> jvrbanac: that's a good question, it would make sense to include them I think
[17:35] <jvrbanac> Agreed, I had noticed that currently the site only shows the current class information; similar to the gnome documentation.
[17:38] <mhall119> we can either have a separate section for "Inherited Methods" like java docs do, or inline them with the rest of the methods and just indicate which are inherited
[17:45] <jvrbanac> One way that i've enjoyed in the past was the way that Adobe dealt with inherited methods in their AS3 docs: http://tinyurl.com/as3docs-sprite
[17:58] <mhall119> hmmm, that can get to be a lot of inherited methods
[18:06] <jvrbanac> mhall119, Yeah. I think the idea with the AS3 docs method is that they are there if you want them, but not turned on by default.
[18:09] <mhall119> yeah, I'm working on the code to provide them, then it'll be up to the new front-end templates to handle the hiding/showing of them
[18:11] <mhall119> jvrbanac: pushed new code with those changes
[18:13] <mhall119> it puts inherited methods in a separate table for now
[18:16] <jvrbanac> Awesome!
[19:09] <mhall119> jvrbanac: just pushed theme support, there's a new step in the DEVELOPMENT file telling how to get the theme branch
[19:09] <mhall119> but the theme branch needed some changes (which I've submitted as a merge proposal)
[19:10] <mhall119> so until that lands, branch from here instead: ~mhall119/ubuntu-community-webthemes/default-to-static
[19:20] <jvrbanac> mhall119, sweet! Thanks! I pulled it down. I'm trying to finish up an API library (for my day job) before the end of the day, so I'll take a look at it in a few. :)
[19:20] <mhall119> no rush
[19:21] <mhall119> day job comes first :)
[19:21] <jvrbanac> lol yeah


[23:32] <at_work> Is there anyway to change the ID assigned to eth0 when Network Manager is the rendered for a cloud-init network?
[23:37] <at_work> does not look like it. hard coded brittle as a brick


[01:16] <fta> asac, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/XulApps/Packaging  :( a bit too realistic
[13:28] <asac> fta: http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html
[13:29] <asac> the people that need help are Matthias Klose and Steve Langasek :) ... at least doko touches packages for mass uploads so he ends up being responsible for far too many merges
[14:03] <fta_> asac, yeah, i know but it takes time for me too.
[14:04] <fta_> asac, so, what do you think of my xulapp draft ? too complex ?
[14:31] <asac> fta_: good start.
[14:31] <asac> but as you said its a bit too complex. imo we should not have the tarballing procedure in there
[14:31] <asac> if we want something about tree maintenance, then how to properly do it bzr :)
[14:33] <fta_> well, i think the bar is higher than for extensions. mozilla stuff is never easy in the 1st place.
[14:34] <fta_> eh "then how to properly do it bzr" ?
[14:40] <fta_> asac, how do you propose to handle the tarball then ?
[14:40] <fta_> i could point to mozclient but that will not help people wanting to package a random app
[15:14] <fta> in FF, F11 is not acting like View / Full Screen, it's annoying
[15:15] <fta> (metacity)
[16:20] <asac> fta: for me it does. lets talk about the xulapp doc later today. i have to go out in the sun again ... social obligations ;)=


[03:25] <SuperPulseaudio> sup! need help with this https://askubuntu.com/questions/930168/
[04:25] <alkisg> SuperPulseaudio: I think you're in the wrong channel, try asking in #ubuntu


[20:06] <giampy> ciao
[20:06] <giampy> !list
[20:48] <asdfMAN> any UF mods happen to be here?
[20:52] <asdfMAN> anyone know how I can add something to the forum agenda>
[20:52] <asdfMAN> ?
[20:56] <asdfMAN> anyone awake>
[20:57] <pleia2> asdfMAN: maybe try #ubuntuforums ?
[20:57] <asdfMAN> ok, I'll try that as well
[20:58] <asdfMAN> ... would it be http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntuforums
[20:58] <asdfMAN> ?
[20:59] <nhandler> asdfMAN: Type: /join #ubuntuforums
[20:59] <asdfMAN> yeah, that worked
[20:59] <nhandler> asdfMAN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda is also the Forum Council Agenda
[21:00] <asdfMAN> you know how to add stuff there?
[21:00] <asdfMAN> I have some questions about it as well.  I'm not available at the regular meeting times
[21:00] <nhandler> asdfMAN: You will want to talk to the Forum Council members if you are not able to attend the meeting. And you can edit it by going to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda?action=edit&editor=text
[21:01] <asdfMAN> anyone know if they'd accept a typed file that explains everything?
[21:01] <asdfMAN> ok, thanks for that like
[21:01] <asdfMAN> any idea how to contact the council members?
[21:03] <asdfMAN> "You are not allowed to edit this page."


[12:19] <Viper550> Hello
[09:31] <troy_s> kwwii_, fschoep around?
[09:47] <kwwii_> moin
[09:47] <kwwii_> hi troy_s
[09:51] <fschoep> troy_s: I'm here.
[10:05] <cbx33> ping fschoep
[10:05] <fschoep> hi
[10:05] <cbx33> how are you
[10:05] <fschoep> Fine, thanks. You?
[10:05] <cbx33> yeh good
[10:05] <cbx33> progbox.co.uk/finals
[10:05] <cbx33> there is a new one....for the boot up sounds :p
[10:05] <cbx33> just a quick ideas test
[10:06] <fschoep> OK, hold on - it's loading kind of slow for
[10:06] <fschoep> me
[10:06] <fschoep> I still see the old ones?
[10:06] <fschoep> three final-samples and eleven samples
[10:07] <cbx33> yes
[10:07] <cbx33> in the eleven there is one called
[10:07] <cbx33> boot or smething
[10:07] <fschoep> I think I don't see it on my side of the universe?
[10:07] <cbx33> no...
[10:07] <cbx33> me neither that's odd
[10:07] <cbx33> hang on
[10:08] <fschoep> OK
[10:09] <cbx33> ok it;s there now
[10:09] <fschoep> Great, have you got an MP3 ;) ?
[10:09] <cbx33> I'll make on hang on
[10:09] <fschoep> Yesterday I used Audacity in Dapper to convert them, I could do that again but I'd need to reboot for it.
[10:09] <fschoep> So, thanks if you do it
[10:10] <cbx33> done
[10:10] <fschoep> Wow, that's fast, thanks
[10:10] <fschoep> Ah, this short sound should be played on boot, like the Mac "bong"?
[10:10] <cbx33> yes
[10:12] <fschoep> Well, it'd certainly fit in there
[10:12] <fschoep> Did you use one of the final-samples as a base theme for it?
[10:16] <cbx33> no not really....
[10:47] <DrDoom> o_O
[10:48] <fschoep> Hey DrDoom what's happening
[10:49] <DrDoom> fschoep, nothing much
[10:49] <fschoep> OK
[10:49] <DrDoom> I'm trying to theme like some of these people on the ubuntuforums gallery ;)
[10:49] <fschoep> Hehe
[10:49] <DrDoom> It's not working very well :)
[10:49] <fschoep> It isn't?
[10:50] <fschoep> It's probably hard to find tutorials?
[10:50] <DrDoom> nah, they are too good
[10:50] <DrDoom> yeah
[10:50] <fschoep> I know the problem
[10:50] <fschoep> We're having some trouble with this in the artwork team itself as well.
[10:51] <DrDoom> It's hard getting a good theme.
[10:51] <DrDoom> Or at least shaping one.
[10:51] <fschoep> Indeed
[10:51] <fschoep> Creating mockups is easy, but implementing is difficult.
[10:51] <fschoep> I do have some links for you if you want
[10:52] <DrDoom> Oh yes.
[10:52] <fschoep> It's not much, but here you go:
[10:52] <fschoep> GTK2:
[10:52] <fschoep> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes
[10:52] <fschoep> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkEngines
[10:52] <fschoep> Metacity:
[10:52] <fschoep> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
[10:52] <fschoep> GDM:
[10:52] <fschoep> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GdmThemes
[10:53] <fschoep> If you enjoy creating themes, you might consider applying for doing a theme for Edgy +1?
[10:54] <DrDoom> Interesting.
[10:54] <DrDoom> fschoep, I'd need to practice creating them more for that =)
[10:54] <fschoep> DrDoom: no you don't :) We've got people doing some with all kinds of experience levels :)
[10:54] <fschoep> Doing something is the best way of learning it :)
[10:55] <DrDoom> True.
[10:55] <DrDoom> Why are you guys in need of people?
[10:55] <fschoep> Why?
[10:56] <DrDoom> Just wondering.
[10:56] <fschoep> Basically because we've got big plans!
[10:56] <fschoep> And we're working hard on getting those done.
[10:56] <DrDoom> I liked the Dapper theme.
[10:56] <fschoep> That's good!
[10:56] <fschoep> We're refining it a bit for Edgy but it won't change too much.
[10:56] <DrDoom> Aw, I was hoping it was going to be even better!
[10:56] <fschoep> At least, the GTK2 theme won't change much.
[10:57] <fschoep> We're making it better, gradually.
[10:57] <DrDoom> I like how it ships with GNOME.
[10:57] <fschoep> I see.
[10:58] <fschoep> Have you got good ideas for polishing the GTK theme?
[10:59] <DrDoom> I'd have to think about that more, I am constantly unsatisfied when it comes to the UI.
[10:59] <DrDoom> lol
[11:00] <fschoep> Hehe :0
[11:00] <fschoep> Would you like doing some artwork for Edgy?
[11:00] <DrDoom> fschoep, possibly...i'm not too awake right now though
[11:00] <fschoep> We're working on designs for the usplash, login manager theme, login splash and wallpaper. We can use your help :)
[11:01] <DrDoom> i am on because i could not sleep that well
[11:01] <DrDoom> Ah, one thing that I don't really like is the login manager theme.
[11:01] <fschoep> Would you consider joining the artwork team?
[11:02] <fschoep> It doesn't take much, just some skills with graphical design.
[11:02] <DrDoom> I would, but I can't promise anything.
[11:02] <fschoep> No problem, we're all volunteers, so don't worry.
[11:03] <DrDoom> Hehe, pretty amazing product that comes out of volunteers.
[11:03] <DrDoom> Most people expect the $$$
[11:04] <fschoep> Thanks :)
[11:05] <fschoep> A good start would be joining the artwork mailing list and probably adding yourself to the ubuntu-art team on Launchpad.
[11:05] <DrDoom> fschoep, so where do you stand in all this?
[11:05] <fschoep> I'm the "Artist in Chief" for Edgy.
[11:06] <fschoep> So I kind of lead everyone through the whole process of getting the artwork done.
[11:06] <DrDoom> Wow, impressive.
[11:06] <cbx33> fschoep, is doing an excellent job
[11:06] <cbx33> he's great to work for :p
[11:06] <fschoep> Hehe, thanks cbx33 :)
[11:07] <cbx33> well I really mean it dude, your encouragement and comments help me make great art :p
[11:07] <fschoep> OK, thanks - it's almost embarrassing :)
[11:08] <DrDoom> ha
[11:09] <cbx33> heheh
[11:09] <cbx33> then poits and laughs....hehehe :p
[11:11] <irawan> leave
[11:12] <DrDoom> fschoep, I'm very tired now....I will come back in and talk tomorrow ok?
[11:12] <cbx33> cool DrDoom
[11:12] <DrDoom> Goodnight all!
[11:12] <fschoep> DrDoom: sure, we'll be here all times you expect us to be!
[11:12] <fschoep> I hope he got that :)
[12:41] <troy_s> fschoep
[12:41] <troy_s> ping fschoep
[12:41] <troy_s> middle of morn here.
[12:42] <kwwii__> one second, I told him
[12:44] <troy_s> greets kwwii__
[12:44] <kwwii__> howdy troy_s
[12:44] <Cadet> Hi.
[12:45] <troy_s> lil groggy here... where the hell is franko
[12:45] <troy_s> greetings cadet
[12:45] <troy_s> how are you doing?
[12:45] <Cadet> thank's, i'm doing good thank's
[12:46] <Cadet> so you guys do all the ubuntu artwork eh?
[12:48] <troy_s> well actually the bulk of the artwork thus far
[12:48] <troy_s> has been paid for and created by others.
[12:49] <troy_s> kwwii__: is he close to you?
[12:49] <kwwii__> yeah, he is sitting behind me
[12:49] <troy_s> behind you???
[12:49] <kwwii__> but he said he won't go into chat before lunch
[12:49] <troy_s> diff table no doubt i hope :)
[12:49] <kwwii__> so it'll be an hour or two
[12:49] <troy_s> call him a weiner for me
[12:49] <troy_s> grr.
[12:49] <troy_s> okie... well i guess i'll go back to sleep.
[12:50] <troy_s> did shuttlebot show up at weis?
[12:51] <troy_s> kwwii__: tell him i'll try to be back in a while, if i wake up again (late call today)
[12:51] <kwwii__> yepp, mark was here until this morning
[12:51] <kwwii__> we all went out last night
[12:51] <kwwii__> I will tell him
[12:51] <troy_s> goot.
[12:51] <troy_s> out for a while.
[12:51] <kwwii__> have fun :-)
[12:52] <Madpilot> when did Mark aquire the nickname "shuttlebot"?
[12:52] <kwwii__> hehehe
[12:52] <kwwii__> I did not say that :p
[02:21] <lloydinho> hey kwwii_ - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment
[02:22] <kwwii_> lloydinho: thanks man
[02:23] <lloydinho> be sure to check out the smilies - they're a hoot!
[02:23] <kwwii_> :-)
[02:38] <msikma> Yeah man, that is one awesome icon set
[02:40] <msikma> I especially like that all the icons have custom-made shadows as opposed to an auto-generated one.
[02:41] <msikma> It does bother me that they face to the left. I've learned that, if given the choice, you should always make something face to the right, into writing direction.
[02:41] <msikma> But that's a minor gripe.
[02:52] <lapo> that icon theme is coming along nicelly I'm happy they are using our metaphors
[03:19] <troy_s> fschoep:
[03:19] <fschoep> troy_s: Hi, what's up?
[03:20] <troy_s> there he is...
[03:26] <lapo> http://xoomer.alice.it/bat/thos/navx.png I tweaked up go-home a bit is it better?
[03:26] <lapo> uhm...sorry wrong win


[00:10] <esv> hey folks, I have a Samsung monitor with 2 display ports connected to my Ubuntu 22.04, I configured the monitor to display each port side by side, so far, so so.
[00:12] <esv> when the monitor goes to sleep, the computer has a hard time getting it to wake up, but that's not why Im here.
[00:13] <esv> I just enabled Night light on Display settings, expecting it to use it on both displays, but heck no! only in one DP.
[00:14] <esv> is there anything I can check, logs to provide? etc...
[00:46] <davros1> Ok I got a USB stick with ubuntu installer; I've got that booted. I can click through "install" , and I get to the screen where I can choose 'format the disk & install, or manually partition'
[00:47] <davros1> In the "manual partition.." Screen I can see my 2 existing install partitions. The 64gb (that currently boots) and the 192gb (that is broken)
[00:47] <davros1> I'd like to install over the 192gb partition
[00:48] <davros1> Is that possible ? I dont seem to be able to click anything here that enables me to go to 'next'. I can click '-' and it shows that it will clear it or something
[00:48] <davros1> I do have the data I wanted copied to a usb drive aswell
[00:55] <EriC^^> davros1: try selecting for the '/' mountpoint and dont choose the format option
[00:59] <davros1> Thanks that worked
[00:59] <davros1> Incidentally the broken partition was actually 22.04. the one i was booting into today was 20.10 or somethign
[01:27] <davros1> Ok I now have a fresh install of 23.04 (I recall you say 22.04 is better but I'd already downloaded it) . it boots and I can see all my old files albeit in a weird partition , I can bring things across and compile etc
[01:28] <leftyfb> davros1: just be ready to upgrade in 4 months
[01:28] <davros1> This will carry me over for the next few days but I'll still grab a new drive , I could do with more space
[01:39] <LnxGnome> tomreyn: Thanks for the pointers.  [IPoIB] came from a `netplay apply`.  netplan.io seems to understand IB.  so, networkd in 22.04 hasn't caught up. Guess I'll have to drop networkd. I'll give this a try.. https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-switch-back-networking-to-etc-network-interfaces-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux
[01:41] <LnxGnome> ubottu: the configs use static addressing, so the dhcp issue wasn't encountered.
[01:45] <LnxGnome> tomreyn: or switch to NetworkManager, even though it's a server.
[02:03] <LnxGnome> tomreyn: NetworkManager seems to do the trick.
[05:19] <aiena> What is the correct way to persist custom ip routes tables and routes created with the ip command in ubuntu
[05:20] <aiena> or laternatively is there a way to run a script after all interfaces are up?
[05:50] <ravage> AlexC: https://i.imgur.com/s6Jmf3V.png
[05:50] <AlexC> almost
[05:50] <AlexC> :P
[05:50] <ravage> soooory
[05:51] <ravage> aiena: https://i.imgur.com/s6Jmf3V.png
[05:51] <aiena> ravage, I have a slightly different setup with 2 NICS and 2 default routes in 2 different routing tables one custom defined
[05:52] <aiena> this looks like it will only affect the main routing table
[05:53] <aiena> oh there is a tick box
[05:54] <aiena> I thought i could find a DE agnostic way without netplan
[05:55] <aiena> thanks ravage
[06:21] <arkanoid> I left my ubuntu box copying files, after 5 hours I came back to it and I found it turned off. What happened? By reading the logs, the last lines from last boot shows: "systemd[1]: Starting Daily apt upgrade and clean activities..."
[06:21] <arkanoid> "Stopping NVIDIA Persistence Daemon..."
[06:21] <arkanoid> "systemd[1]: Reloading"
[06:22] <arkanoid> "systemd[1]: Starting NVIDIA system hibernate actions..."
[06:22] <arkanoid> "suspend[845021]: nvidia-suspend.service"
[06:24] <arkanoid> basically ubuntu disrupted its services on its own
[06:56]  * foogalo_bar /join #jokes
[07:10] <JimBuntu> shhhh
[07:18] <Piraty> now that ubuntu's pip refuses to `pip install --user -U foo` (it says "error: externally-managed-environment" ) , what's a useful approach to manage the application i have (currently non-functional) in ~/.local/bin instead? each gets a venv and i prepend all the venvs' bin to PATH, risking a possible shadowing if i have the wrong ordering?
[07:18] <Piraty> or have giant venv which i prependd to path
[07:24] <Piraty> or , likely worse, have aliases that call the executable scripts i'm interested in directly
[07:26] <Piraty> ok i'm reading the file mentioned in the error output. /usr/share/doc/python3.11/README.venv
[07:26] <Piraty> i lol'ed at pipx
[07:32] <akik> Piraty: you can use the option --break-system-packages if you're running pip as your user
[07:33] <akik> Piraty: just remember which packages you have installed in your $HOME
[09:36] <programarivm> hi there
[10:43] <weedmic> arkanoid: did you find out what really happened?
[10:57] <arkanoid> weedmic: nope
[11:03] <weedmic> arkanoid: did you check /var/log/wtmp to see what triggered a shutdown/reboot?  I'm pretty sure that would be the log to lookin
[11:04] <arkanoid> weedmic: no, doing now. Seems binary
[11:10] <tomreyn> https://pythonspeed.com/articles/externally-managed-environment-pep-668/
[11:10] <tomreyn> Piraty: ^
[11:11] <tomreyn> also see the venv README the message you read on screen refers to
[11:12] <tomreyn> arkanoid: use the "last" command to parse wtmp
[11:14] <tomreyn> arkanoid: also   journalctl --list-boots    and view the end of the log where you shut down unexpectedly    journalctl -b BOOTID -e
[11:16] <arkanoid> I'm already using "journalctl -b -1 -e"
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:53] <tykling_> what is the recommended way of installing a 22.04 server with a disk mirror? is it not possible to do in the installer?
[12:54] <leftyfb> RAID1
[12:55] <tykling_> yes thank you but how?
[12:56] <leftyfb> https://alexskra.com/blog/ubuntu-20-04-with-software-raid1-and-uefi/
[12:56] <leftyfb> there's several results on google when searching for "ubuntu 22.04 server installer RAID"
[12:59] <omnigoat> I'm on 20.04. Is there documentation somewhere on 1) the relationship between rsyslog and journald, 2) reasons why both are configured and running
[13:02] <omnigoat> This is an older installation and there's a chance that this isn't by default and that I did all this myself and have forgotten doing so. Sadly, I can't tell because from my googling it simply isn't stated anywhere what the default logging config/setup is.
[13:04] <mgedmin> it's pretty standard; although I don't rememebr if rsyslogd is installed by default on modern ubuntu installs
[13:05] <mgedmin> journald is mandatory (systemd depends on it), it can store persistent logs if configured to do so, in a binary format
[13:05] <mgedmin> rsyslogd hooks into journald and copies all the logs into a bunch of traditional log files in /var/log
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> !info rsyslogd focal
[13:05] <leftyfb> omnigoat: https://askubuntu.com/a/925446  pretty sure this still applies to newer releases of ubuntu
[13:06] <mgedmin> at one point long ago (circa 18.04 maybe?) the default setup was non-persistent journal + rsyslogd by default, then ubuntu made the journal persistent by default
[13:06] <mgedmin> !info rsyslog focal
[13:08] <mgedmin> I think the way to get an official answer is to check the release notes for every ubuntu release in a given time range, searching for 'syslog' and 'journal'
[13:09] <mgedmin> (would be nice if there were a git repo of these notes in markdown format or something)
[13:10] <omnigoat> Alright, thank you all. There are enough in those remarks to clear the confusion for me.
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> omnigoat: try out some fancy journal viewing in realtime with; journalctl -f | ccze -A
[13:16] <pycurious> Does anyone know how to fix this issue: ubuntu iptables/1.8,7 failed to initialize nft protocol not supported
[13:17] <leftyfb> pycurious: what release of ubuntu?
[13:17] <leftyfb> pycurious: is this on docker or WSL?
[13:17] <pycurious> 22.04LTS - on LiNode server
[13:18] <pycurious> It's working on other servers, but not on this one…
[13:18] <leftyfb> pycurious: try rebooting
[13:18] <pycurious> rebooted already
[13:18] <pycurious> same error
[13:19] <leftyfb> pycurious: which kernel?
[13:20] <omnigoat> Re the rsyslog journald marriage: what tripped me up at first that `logger whatever` wrote to /var/log/syslog while I couldn't see it in journalctl output, so my assumption that they were connected didn't seem to hold
[13:20] <omnigoat> but turns out the journalctl output was flooded by the usual hapless SSH scanners/bruteforcers and the "whatever" was ancient history by the time I had a look
[13:21] <leftyfb> omnigoat: journalctl -k
[13:22] <pycurious> 5.15.0-84-generic
[13:22] <Guest4321> hello all
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> welcome Guest4321
[13:24] <leftyfb> pycurious: I would recommend upgrading the kernel, preferably to the latest HWE kernel
[13:25] <pycurious> leftyfb: what command should i use? I've run apt update/upgrade on the machine. 22.04.3 LTS
[13:25] <leftyfb> pycurious: sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04
[13:28] <pycurious> leftleg_: is there any reason the default kernel would break iptables/nft connection? I'm going to try to change the kernel as you suggested, will let you know in a moment.
[13:29] <_spk_> afternoon
[13:31] <_spk_> I seem to have an issue with snap on 23.04 following moving home directory to a different zpool - it is still mounted under /home/<user> though, but snap seems to think it's not...
[13:32] <pycurious> leftyfb: Changed the kernel - still the same error from iptables after reboot
[13:34] <_spk_> anyone else hit a similar issue? I can't really see anything that could make snap think my $HOME is mounted somewhere non-standard
[13:45] <leftyfb> pycurious: did you confirm you are running the new kernel?
[13:48] <scottpedia> leftyfb: zup how u doing?
[14:06] <deadrom> hi
[14:14] <Church> Query, has anyone been able to install both python2-pip and python3-pip on a host at once? (Yes I know don't use py2, I'd love to if I could)
[14:17] <laraaji> hello, does this work? I am not too familiar with IRC
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> laraaji: you joined the ubuntu support channel here
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> you can ask ubuntu related questions here
[14:18] <laraaji> yes, can i ask for something that might be a bit specific? i am not too sure if it belongs here, but i'm using kubuntu if that helps clarify why i am here
[14:20] <laraaji> it's regarding QEMU and booting a drive I have a windows install from it
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> laraaji: shoot and the volunteers might reply or redirect you if needed
[14:22] <laraaji> Well, I wanted to know if it's possible to boot my Windows 10 drive from QEMU, it's really simple taking it into account, I've got into the software fairly recently so sorry if this isn't the right place to ask
[14:24] <pickanick> Hi 1. does U 22.04.03 cache DNS requests by default?  2. If I install dnsmasq is there a conflict between the two?  3. Can I have DNS requests go over a low-datarate channel that is not subject to DNS poisoning, and then the other requests go over the mair ISP connection?  [trying to find a workaround for bad ISP]
[14:25] <mesnitu> hi. Shoud I enable ppa packages and updates (using ubuntu studio)? I mean , no issues, or some issues on the way ? There's always that feeling that it might be missing something ...
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> mesnitu: That's completely up to you. If You want newer packages, go for it. If you are happy with the stability, don't.
[14:29] <Eickmeyer> Stability = no frequent updates, in this case.
[14:29] <Eickmeyer> (don't confuse stability with crashiness)
[14:29] <Eickmeyer> mesnitu: In other words, it depends on your use case.
[14:31] <mesnitu> yeah, i was reading the comments in discover, and I'll stick to stability until I actually need update.
[14:31] <mesnitu> thanks
[14:31] <Eickmeyer> 👍
[14:39] <dfahekajfdskfjak> hi!
[15:30] <dwigton_> I have a driver straight from nvidia installed on 22.04 to use the CUDA toolkit. It has been fine, but today I can't install any new packages. `libnvidia-gl-535 : Breaks: libnvidia-gl-535:i386 (!= 535.86.10-0ubuntu1) but 535.104.05-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed`
[15:30] <dwigton_> Is there anyway to resolve this without using "--fix-broken"?
[15:31] <mesnitu> hi , I need to put a second monitor on startup, but I would like to have it load befor the gdm screen. Already try to put it as a service in the graphical.target.wants and in Xsession.d with no success.... any hints ?
[15:31] <mesnitu> #!/bin/bash
[15:31] <mesnitu> # Check if the monitor DP-2 is connected
[15:31] <mesnitu> if xrandr | grep -q "DP-2 connected"; then
[15:31] <mesnitu>     # 1920x1080 59.96 Hz (CVT 2.07M9) hsync: 67.16 kHz; pclk: 173.00 MHz
[15:31] <mesnitu>     # Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> !paste | mesnitu
[15:33] <dwigton_> The last time I used --fix-broken I lost all output from the GPU and a really tedious repair ensued.
[15:33] <Eickmeyer> mesnitu: You shouldn't have to do Xsession.d gymnastics. Your DE should be able to handle it.
[15:34] <mesnitu> sorry about the paste, what is DE?
[15:34] <dwigton_> Desktop Environment.
[15:35] <dwigton_> Gnome KDE
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> Desktop Environment. Furthermore, if you're using ubuntu Studio, sddm is the display manager, not gdm.
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> And sddm handles multi-monitor just fine, as in cloned.
[15:35] <mesnitu> ok. i'll check that
[15:36] <Eickmeyer> Order is questionable, but in that case it's luck-of-the-draw.
[15:36] <Eickmeyer> The goal in that case is to get you signed-in.
[15:40] <mesnitu> yeah, i guess the thing here is to set the resolution for the external monitor, to display it properly in sddm. The rest is ok. The startup script only loads after de sddm .
[15:48] <dwigton_> Ok if I have `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda-ubuntu2204-12-2-local.list:deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/cuda-4A4BF9B3-keyring.gpg] file:///var/cuda-repo-ubuntu2204-12-2-local /` in souces.list.d I guess it just points to var and doesn't get updated?
[16:11] <tomreyn> dwigton_: it points to the apt repository at /var/cuda-repo-ubuntu2204-12-2-local and gets updated with whatever new there is there
[16:27] <awdwadwa> Is there a way for tzdata to be completely non-interactive? I'm using a CI and I want US/New York selected. My config is build-linux: docker: - image: ubuntu:20.04 steps: - run: apt-get update && apt-get install -y tzdata openssh-client git --no-install-recommends tzdata
[16:33] <tomreyn> ltdan: you seem to be asking how to install, with apt, package "tzdata" completely non-interactively?
[16:34] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/556385/how-can-i-install-apt-packages-non-interactively
[16:39] <tomreyn> if you want to change the system timezone to US/New York, you can just   echo 'US/New York' | sudo tee /etc/timezone && sudo dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive tzdata
[17:57] <bratner> Hi all! Where can I ask libvirt/qemu configuration related questions?
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> bratner: if its related to ubuntu, you can ask a question here
[18:31] <bratner> I'm running Ubuntu 22.04 with qemu 6.2 (using virtmanager). I want to route audio from my guest win10 VM to host over pulseaudio, instead of the default spice channel. I can't make it work, meaning the guest is not connecting to pulseaudio (according to pactl) and looking for any credible guide/doc how to configure or at least get some logs.
[19:16] <Skilt0nElbows> Richard Simmons' Seclusion Story - A Royal Canadian Secret Agent Pedo Sting Richard's Simmons current seclusion is explained telling the story of his trying to meet up with an 11 year-old African refugee child for a kale and cottage cheese enema and sex!  https://justpaste.it/Richard_Simmons_Pedo_Sting_Bust
[19:17] <din0> Where do they come up with this stuff
[19:34] <ogra> din0, perhaps there is some "spam quote of the day" mailing list somewhere 🙂
[22:18] <jumpcutking> Anyone know how I can install folly? CMake Error at FindFolly.cmake:30 (message):
[22:18] <jumpcutking>   Failed to locate folly include directory
[22:18] <jumpcutking> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[22:18] <jumpcutking>   CMakeLists.txt:133 (INCLUDE)
[22:18] <jumpcutking> Tried building and moved tmp/.../install/folly folder to /usr/lib/folly
[22:19] <yolo> why do I have DISPLAY=:1 on my ubuntu 22.04 instead of :0? seems causing trouble for electron.js apps for me who might expect :0
[22:22] <yolo> ERROR:ozone_platform_x11.cc(241)] Missing X server or $DISPLAY
[22:26] <yolo> OK I got electron.js working(switching display to :1 inside), still why ubuntu 22.04 by default uses :1 instead of :0?
[22:54] <phinxy>  /j #macosx
[23:12] <cores> tomreyn: you were helping me with an hdmi/usb-c/linux problem yesterday. i think it was yesterday. anyway, i don't think my issue is linux related, it's some other problem: cable, monitor, usb-c hub, something else.
[23:14] <tomreyn> cores: thanks for reporting back.


[00:55] <h00k> woo,
[01:00] <chelz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXUjjg9qQ0
[01:03] <metasansana> its better than a usb mass storage device
[01:05] <chelz> Feb 17, 2012 is when that youtube vid was posted
[04:13] <z3x334u> hey
[08:55] <jussi> sigh, someone at ubuntu tv fails at youtube
[11:21] <mainerror> Hello o/
[12:33] <tarelerulz> So I take you need phone with a video out before you can use Ubuntu to android ?
[12:39] <mainerror> tarelerulz: Not sure if the dock wouldn't do that for you.
[12:40] <tarelerulz> If it need video out  , I"m done for sure .  The Sensation don't have that.
[12:40] <tarelerulz> If it needs a dock , I could see if I could find it or maybe get one
[12:41] <mainerror> I don't know for sure either, so don't quote me on that. :)
[12:42] <tarelerulz> Well, I'm just asking , I have no idea
[12:42] <tarelerulz> I have been using android for awhile now
[12:43] <tarelerulz> Even on windows and Even Linux for the most part  The only thing you can really do is  put files on the sd card
[12:44] <mainerror> Well there are more ways to interact with your phone from the computer but that is through the developer tools.
[12:44] <tarelerulz> With bluetooh , I found you could stream audio and transfer files  .  I used wifi to control XBMC  ,but nothing like really sharing the phone  apps
[12:44] <mainerror> It isn't anything like what Ubuntu planned. :)
[12:45] <tarelerulz> I'm there brother
[12:45] <tarelerulz>  I have done a bit with adb  like running  adb root shell   ,but that is not much
[12:46] <tarelerulz> You can install apps and what not  ,but you can do that on the phone itself
[12:47] <tarelerulz> It looks like a cool idea
[12:48] <tarelerulz> If I had both hardware need. I would download an iso right now and install Ubuntu again
[12:49] <tarelerulz> I don't remeber the Sensatoin coming with a dock
[12:50] <tarelerulz> mainerror: You have an android phone?
[12:50] <mainerror> Yes, a couple of them.
[12:51]  * mainerror is a professional Android developer
[12:53] <mainerror> A HTC Magic, HTC Desire, HTC Desire HD, Nexus S and an Asus EeePad Tablet.
[12:57] <tarelerulz> That is cool
[12:57] <tarelerulz> I just have G1 , N1 and  Sensation 4g
[12:59] <tarelerulz> I'm rocking cm I think 6 on g1 , cm 7 on  n1 and virtuous_inquisition-v3.0.0 on Sensation .
[13:00] <tarelerulz> Not a dev like you , just a user and maybe now power user
[13:09] <tarelerulz> Have notice , with new contacts you have place for yourself ( me) .  When you add stuff to it  don't sync back to Google contacts in anyway
[13:13] <tarelerulz> If anything you should not need to fill out , yourself
[13:22] <tarelerulz> When you guy make it so you , just plug the phone in via usb cord  and the Ubuntu for android thing works I'm so there.  I might even get a dock if  its need