[01:50] <CyberZooL> Hello fluburburbburb test
[01:50] <CyberZooL> k
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> And flufublullubfufub to you too. How can we help you?
[01:52] <CyberZooL> haha
[01:52] <CyberZooL> i'm not in my place here I think   :-)
[01:52] <CyberZooL> But I love Kubuntu
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: Well you (sort of) came to the right place. We do our flublfulufblufb'ing in #kubuntu-offtopic , and our support here.
[01:55] <CyberZooL> Yeah... ok... I am testing Quassel out of curiosity and because I was told it's possible to find mp3 around here... but I understand I have to connect to another server
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: Yyyyyyyyyyyeah. (See !list)
[01:57] <CyberZooL> Anyone who work or give support to Kubuntu have my gratitude  :-)
[01:57] <CyberZooL> kudos to you all
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !volunteer
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !volunteers
[01:57] <CyberZooL> kudos to volonteers
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> That's what we are (especially since Canonical disowned us)
[02:00] <CyberZooL> Yeah I know a bit about that... I mean about MIR and more ( I don't quite remember... one of the maintainer lost is job and blue something pickup )
[02:01] <CyberZooL> I wonder what will happen in the future
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: Actually, we and Ubuntu GNOME are headed for Wayland, and Lubuntu is staying with X. Xubuntu has yet to make a decision.
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: (And, of course, Ubuntu and Edubuntu will have the Mir stack)
[02:07] <CyberZooL> My gut feeling is that Wayland is the right choice.... beacause it is more community oriented.  But I'm no programmer.
[02:08] <CyberZooL> Same thing for QT.... I think it is better but I can't explain it..... weird
[02:08] <Unit193> (They didn't disown, they mearly stopped having a paid dev, so it's the same as all the flavors now....)
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: The Ubuntu GNOME people had the easiest decision to make, being the only Ubuntu flavor not dependent on lightdm
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Unit193: Well, yeah, that's more along the lines of it
[02:10] <Unit193> Also, I don't think this is support related anymore, and I see #kubuntu-offtopic calling. ;)
[02:11] <CyberZooL> oh sorry.. I'm not really saavy about the irc net etiquette and all... sorry for the off topic stuff
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: It's not too high on support traffic, but yeah, we are kind of heading !ot with this
[02:17] <CyberZooL> Ok Bye bye and thanks for the chatting maybe one day I'll return if I have a major problem or I'll join offtopic to do some small talk about the state of Kubuntu
[02:18] <CyberZooL> and more
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> :) Have a good one!
[03:46] <glitchd> hello all
[03:48] <glitchd> uhh...hello?
[04:01] <wc_> nn
[05:16] <F41L> Ok, I've got a kubuntu 32bit install USB. I've put elilo ia32 bootloader into \EFI\BOOT, made a configuration to point at \casper\vlinuz and \casper\initrd.lz. When attempting to boot from the drive, it now appears to detect ELILO, but just gets to a black screen now, no prompt, nothing. Better than it acting like the USB drive didn't exist, but still not working. I have an IA32 intel atom with <c>
[05:16] <F41L> EFI-only BIOS. <e>
[06:33] <oya2> bonjour
[07:41] <hyper_ch> hi there, I can't set my clock to update with ntp servers and timezones are completely off
[08:09] <floown> hello
[08:10] <floown> I can not ping my NAS and access to my shared folder with NFS, someone has an idea?
[08:10] <ikonia> floown: icmp is blocked
[08:11] <ikonia> it's that simple
[08:12] <floown> ikonia: what is icmp ?
[08:12] <ikonia> part of the TCP stack
[08:12] <ikonia> it's not something you neeed to worry about
[08:12] <floown> how can I fix my problem ?
[08:13] <ikonia> it's not a problem
[08:13] <ikonia> not being able to ping does not cause any problems
[08:13] <ikonia> as you said your self you are still sharing things and it's working fine - ping is not part of that
[09:08] <stack3457> how can I upgrade akonadi and kdepimlibs from 4.10 version to 4.11 ?.I am using kubuntu 12.04
[09:25] <stack3457> how can I upgrade 4.10 kde version to 4.10 in kubuntu 12.04??
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:28] <n0yd> hey BluesKaj
[11:29] <BluesKaj> hi n0yd
[11:29] <n0yd> Hows it going?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> god , and you ?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> err good :)
[11:31]  * BluesKaj drinks more coffee to wake up
[11:31] <n0yd> not too bad.
[11:31] <n0yd> Im still up, ffs
[11:31] <n0yd> :(
[11:32] <BluesKaj> working on something ?
[11:33] <n0yd> Not especially.  I was gonna suggest some other minor tweaks I did, but I wouldnt do it with that much memory
[11:41] <BluesKaj> this is a 5yr old HP desktop
[11:41] <n0yd> im not sure how old mine is, about the same
[11:41] <n0yd> Core2Duo
[11:41] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:42] <n0yd> But I upgraded it to 8GB ddr3
[11:42] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:42] <n0yd> So I run a lot of /tmp and apt stuff out of ram
[11:43] <BluesKaj> this is a basic HT media server ..mainly for movies , music , pictures , etc
[11:44] <n0yd> gotcha
[11:46] <n0yd> Well, now my son is up, and my gf. Gonna go spend some time with them
[11:47] <BluesKaj> with a entry level nvidia 8400GS and m-audio cards
[11:47] <n0yd> i dont even have a nvidia card
[11:47] <n0yd> intel :-/
[11:53] <BluesKaj> ok , brb ...
[12:23] <BluesKaj> !soundkonverter
[12:23] <BluesKaj> !info soundkonverter
[12:45] <darkshadow> aw
[12:46] <darkshadow> hello there
[12:47] <darkshadow> shaan7
[12:47] <Shaan7> ?
[12:47] <darkshadow> ??
[12:47] <darkshadow> who r u??
[12:48] <lordievader> Hey darkshadow
[12:48] <darkshadow> yes i  am here
[12:49] <lordievader> darkshadow: We can see that ;)
[12:49] <darkshadow> ok,i understand
[12:50] <darkshadow> lordiever where r u frm?
[12:51] <lordievader> darkshadow: Stick around long enough and you'll find out ;)
[12:51] <darkshadow> not have that much time lordiever
[13:45] <jalcine> huge problem, I just upgraded to sausy and 'grub-efi' refuses to install
[13:45] <jalcine> I haven't restarted yet out of fear I wouldn't be able to boot into my system
[13:47] <Roey> hi
[13:47] <Roey> why is my time set to UTC, and how can I change it back to EDT?
[13:48] <Roey> I see with "date" that it is set to UTC.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Roey, what OS are you on ? I see you crossposting in #ubuntu as well, the clock GUIs on unity amd kde are different
[13:51] <Roey> Kubuntu.
[13:52] <Roey> I ended up running "sudo dpkg reconfigure tzdata".
[13:52] <jalcine> huge problem, I just upgraded to sausy and 'grub-efi' refuses to install
[13:52] <jalcine> I'm getting this error when attempting to configure "grub-efi-amd64":
[13:52] <Roey> And that set it back to EDT.
[13:52] <jalcine> Undefined subroutine &conffile::abs_path called at /usr/bin/ucfq line 529, <HASH> line 21.
[13:52] <Roey> BluesKaj:  heya
[13:52] <Roey> and that seems to have fixed it.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> right click on the clock in the panel , set date and time to edt
[13:52] <Roey> the problem began when I set (using the KDE adjust time& date control) to update auotmatically via NTP.
[13:52] <Roey> yeah I had that set.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> don't use that auto set
[13:53] <Roey> even before I selected [x] Set time and date automatically, I had it set to EDT.
[13:53] <Roey> why not?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> it's unreliable
[13:53] <Roey> ah
[13:53] <Roey> well what can I do then to keep the system updated?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> jalcine, ask in ubuntu+1
[13:54] <jalcine> Thanks BluesKaj
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Roey, if you leave auto unchecked then the clock will get it's time setting from the PC clock setting you chose when you installed the OS , as long as EDT and the internal pc claock are the same time
[13:56] <Roey> ahhhhh
[13:57] <Roey> ok so that's why reconfiguring tzdata helped.
[13:57] <BluesKaj> yes, I believe so
[13:59] <Roey> alright
[13:59] <Roey> BluesKaj:  thank you so much for illuminating this
[13:59] <BluesKaj> the internet time servers are becoming unreliable, but I don't know why
[14:02] <Roey> so maybe that update reset from EDT to UTC time zone?  Didn't know that ntp servers could do that.
[14:02] <jalcine> that option or the servers themselves?
[14:02] <Roey> (i.e. report a new time zone)
[14:02] <jalcine> I'm using ntp to manage my time
[14:04] <BluesKaj> no if the time server goes down (disconnects) then the clock defaults to UTC for some reason '
[14:05] <BluesKaj> that's why i don't bother witht auto time servers
[14:08] <BluesKaj> my clock has been correct for many months since I unchecked the automatic setting
[14:13] <vinzphoto> ciao
[14:15] <jalcine> window merge
[14:16] <jalcine> jb #ubuntu-1
[14:16] <jalcine> oi
[14:26] <BluesKaj> !lucid
[14:29] <macwolf74> !natty
[15:18] <chachan> anyone in here using ubuntuone?
[15:18] <chachan> is it worth?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> chachan, I tried it but dropped it , prefer Dropbox
[15:23] <chachan> BluesKaj, I'm using Drive currently because I almost use everything with Google, but they don't have native client which sucks, so I'm looking for options...
[15:23] <chachan> BluesKaj, was the ubuntuone + KDE integration a great feature?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> no chachan , it's ok , I just don't need it
[15:26] <chachan> got it
[15:30] <moray33_> is there a way to suggest applications or configurations included by default in Kubuntu?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> moray33_, do you want to suggest apps for kubuntu to be included in the the next releases ?
[15:38] <moray33_> BluisKaj, well, a couple, and some packages I think it would very handy to have by defalut, especially for newbies
[15:39] <BluesKaj> moray33_, for example ?
[15:39] <moray33_> are you a Kubuntu mantainer of you're just curious?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> if you want o suggest packages then #kubuntu-devel would be a good place to suggest , moray33_
[15:41] <moray33_> @BluisKaj ok, thanks!
[15:42] <moray33_> do you want to know anyways?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> sure
[15:46] <moray33_> icedtea-plugin, p7zip-full, kdeplasma-addons, unrar-free, sweeper, kde-config-grub2. Also, it would be nice kdegraphics-thumbnailers, kffmpegthumbnailer, kde-thumbnailer-openoffice and having those previous enabled in Dolphin. Last, but not least, having the  UFW KControl Module at least available in the repositories...
[15:46] <moray33_> having double click in dolphin, and the Kubuntu icon the app launcher (I know this is not important lol)
[17:32] <RedEyedRoundEye> is anyone able to help with a login screen issue? should be simple
[17:32] <RedEyedRoundEye> my issue is that despite selecting images in the LightDM settings app, my login screen displays no account pic or background image. Just a white screen and default icon for user pic
[17:32] <RedEyedRoundEye> The resources are in ~/Pictures.... could an encrypted home directory be the issue?
[19:37] <Muffie> hello all. I have a system with 2 ssds (sda & sdb), and a regular sata drive (sdc). I'm trying to install kubuntu on it, using the regular installation tool. I manually created partitions on SDC, but the installation fails with a "fatal error" saying that installation of grub on sdA! failed. I'm really glad it failed. There's no way to specify where to install grub? I want it @ sdc, and I choose the boot disk through BIOS...
[19:37] <Muffie> i "really" hope it doesn't screw up my sda boot...
[19:38] <Muffie> it's running chameleon on sda...
[19:39] <Muffie> hello all, back.
[19:39] <Muffie> hello all. I have a system with 2 ssds (sda & sdb), and a regular sata drive (sdc). I'm trying to install kubuntu on it, using the regular installation tool. I manually created partitions on SDC, but the installation fails with a "fatal error" saying that installation of grub on sdA! failed. I'm really glad it failed. There's no way to specify where to install grub? I want it @ sdc, and I choose the boot disk through BIOS...
[19:39] <thelionroars> hi
[19:39] <thelionroars> Chameleon doesn't use Grub2?
[19:40] <Muffie> no. it's a replacement as far as I know. But I'm choosing the OS from BIOS. Just need each disk to have it's own.
[19:41] <Muffie> but the real point is, I was installing to sdc, WHY the installer tried to install grub on sda?
[19:41] <thelionroars> not sure
[19:41] <thelionroars> but everything else with the install worked?
[19:42] <BluesKaj> Muffie, is windows installed on /dev/sda ?
[19:42] <Muffie> don't know. said fatal crash and quit the installer
[19:42] <Muffie> BluesKaj: OSX on sda, Windows 8 on sdb
[19:42] <Muffie> AHCI motherboard used to choose bootable disk
[19:43] <Muffie> ops
[19:43] <Muffie> EFI
[19:43] <Muffie> I'm lost on those
[19:43] <BluesKaj> and sdc is your boot disk in the bios ?
[19:43] <Muffie> no...
[19:43] <thelionroars> oh, chameleon is osx? lol, sorry, thought it was a linux distro
[19:43] <Muffie> :)
[19:43] <Muffie> chameleon is the grub for osx86 (as far as I know)
[19:43] <Muffie> BluesKaj: do I need to temporary set it to boot?
[19:43] <Muffie> there's really not a way to tell the installer
[19:43] <Muffie> where I want it?
[19:44] <thelionroars> I would try checking your kubuntu install from a live cd - mount it, check everything is there
[19:44] <Muffie> Im already on the live-usb
[19:44] <Muffie> the fatal error
[19:44] <thelionroars> if everything else is ok, getting grub to work from the live install should be easy
[19:44] <Muffie> happened some minutes ago
[19:44] <Muffie> how can I check it?
[19:44] <Muffie> let me find a terminal somewhere
[19:44] <thelionroars> mount sdc
[19:44] <BluesKaj> Muffie, yes, if that's where you want grub , afterwards you 'll have to sudo update-grub if you can boot either to a TTY or the kubuntu desktop
[19:45] <thelionroars> sorry
[19:45] <thelionroars> mount your partition on sdc*
[19:45] <Muffie> ok, mounting
[19:45] <Muffie> 1 sec
[19:46] <Muffie> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[19:46] <Muffie> /dev/sdc1 2048 60000255 29999104 83 Linux
[19:46] <Muffie> /dev/sdc2 60000256 67999743 3999744 82 Linux swap / Solaris
[19:46] <Muffie> partitions are there...
[19:46] <Muffie> let me mount sdc1
[19:46] <FloodBotK1> Muffie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <thelionroars> yah
[19:46] <Muffie> ops, sorry
[19:46] <thelionroars> no soup for you!
[19:47] <BluesKaj> yes , you can run sudo grub-install /dev/sdc
[19:47] <thelionroars> ^what BluesKaj said, should work
[19:48] <Muffie> well, ok, I mounted. this is there: 0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    32 Jul 14 16:31 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-19-generic
[19:48] <Muffie> ok, let me sudo grub
[19:49] <kubuntu_> am I back?
[19:49] <Muffie> ok
[19:49] <Muffie> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[19:50] <Muffie> gee. why it's complaining. let me deal with that later
[19:51] <Muffie> BluesKaj: thelionroars?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Muffie, errors ?
[19:51] <Muffie> how grub knows if something would be readable on boot?
[19:52] <Muffie> BluesKaj: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[19:52] <thelionroars> what filesystem did you use?
[19:52] <Muffie> ext4
[19:52] <thelionroars> hmm I'm not sure why its not working then
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Muffie, probly because it wants to install to the dev that's first drive in the boot sequence other than cdrom
[19:53] <thelionroars> if the drive is specified though...
[19:54] <Muffie2> thelionroars: I think GRUB, somehow, sees in bios that sdc is not in the boot sequence. then, prevents the installation
[19:54] <Muffie2> it's really a stupid feature
[19:54] <thelionroars> do you have a separate /boot? you don't right
[19:55] <BluesKaj> not really because grub will find the other OSs and add them to the grubmenu , but that has to be done from the kubuntu OS
[19:55] <thelionroars> I wouldn't give their connection to a monkey on a rock...
[20:10] <Muffie> well, I disabled both ssds on bios
[20:10] <Muffie> now, the regular sata is sda
[20:11] <Muffie> its trying to install now
[20:11] <Muffie> what I know for sure is, the irc connection is really unstable! :)
[20:13] <thelionroars> that was noticeable on this end too
[20:13] <thelionroars> that's one way of avoiding issues, hopefully that should work
[20:14] <Muffie> yep. let's see...
[20:14] <Muffie> anyway, thank you a lot for the help
[20:14] <Muffie> will be really nice to have a triple boot system again! :)
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Muffie, I have a similar setup , so I'll be around for while longer
[20:15] <BluesKaj> no ssds but 3 hdds
[20:15] <Muffie> great!! what do you use to manage the boot?
[20:16] <Muffie> chameleon cant handle win8 boot anymore
[20:16] <Muffie> but I think its due to my mobo
[20:16] <Muffie> I'm new with ssds. I went to us, so, I bought this new "kit": mb, proc, memory and ssds
[20:17] <BluesKaj> efi ?
[20:17] <Muffie> I mean, do you use grub to select which os to boot?
[20:17] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:17] <Muffie> even osx?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> don't have osx
[20:18] <Muffie> ah, what do you have?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> 2 kubuntus 13.04 , 13.10 and W7
[20:18] <BluesKaj> W7 is on it's own HDD
[20:19] <Muffie> yep. still quite useful.
[20:19] <Muffie> I decided to give win8 a try
[20:19] <Muffie> so far, nothing to complain
[20:19] <Muffie> it's win7 with some bells and whistles
[20:20] <BluesKaj> grub works fine installed on the windows drive mbr which was designated as sda , so i used that
[20:21] <Muffie> and what about Kubuntu... I see that everyone is complaining about the new "trend" of user interface
[20:21] <Muffie> specially gnome3
[20:21] <Muffie> that's the main reason I decided to make kubuntu my linux installation now
[20:21] <Muffie> to give it, back, a try
[20:23] <BluesKaj> Muffie,  sorry i don't know what you mean by "new "trend" of user interface"
[20:24] <Muffie> unity
[20:24] <Muffie> win 8
[20:24] <Muffie> full screen for everything
[22:27] <stack_> here Qt.formatTime( dataSource.data["Local"]["Time"],"hh:mm:ss AP" ) how I can display utc or gmt along with time ?


[08:50] <WillPittenger> I have a install image for 32-bit 9.04 that hangs during the initial menu by the bootloader when I boot it in my Virtual Box machine.  Any suggestions?
[08:54] <evand> WillPittenger: As in it hangs on the bootloader or after you select an option in it?  If the latter, does the bootloader screen just sit there, or do you see usplash (the boot progress bar)?
[08:54] <WillPittenger> No, I never get the chance to select an option.
[08:54] <evand> is this an ISO file or physical CD?
[08:55] <WillPittenger> ISO.
[08:56] <evand> have you checked that the md5sum of the iso matches?
[08:57] <evand> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM if you haven't yet
[09:09] <WillPittenger> That might be it then.  The ISO failed.
[09:15] <evand> ah, I imagine so
[11:53] <shtylman> evand: should I be looking at creating a qt version of the ubiquity slideshow? or hold off on that until the gtk one stabilizes a bit more?
[11:56] <evand> shtylman: please do
[11:56] <evand> that is, please do look into it
[11:57] <evand> we'll need code in the kde frontend to display the HTML, and a ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu package
[11:58] <shtylman> evand: alrighty...will do
[11:58] <evand> thanks!
[12:09] <cjwatson> superm1: I *was* planning on doing a merge once I got back from debconf, but thanks for doing it; however the merge you did got me harassed by upstream on IRC because the changelog entry regarding os-prober was wrong ;-)
[12:20] <cjwatson> kirkland: Signed-Off-By is a git-ism ;-), but otherwise that user-setup patch looks fine to me
[13:52] <kirkland> cjwatson: heh, yeah.  i just added it to my .bazaar/bazaar.conf:commit_signoff
[13:52] <kirkland> cjwatson: so it's always in there
[13:52] <kirkland> cjwatson: i confirmed the fix in yesterday's builds, it's working properly now!
[14:02] <evand> kirkland: re last night: I haven't worked on encrypted-swap yet, but I'm hoping to find time for it at the sprint, and if not there, the weeks after.  I'll keep you posted though.
[14:03] <evand> yay, pywebkitgk was promoted to main
[14:05] <kirkland> evand: cool, thanks
[15:24] <superm1> cjwatson, ah I see.  just copied it from an earlier entry about the delta. what should the entry have been?  has the os-prober situation thing been figured out then in debian?
[15:26] <superm1> oh nvm, fezie explained it to me in a pm
[15:27] <cjwatson> yeah, you have to take account of subsequent changelog entries when copying an earlier remaining-changes block
[18:15] <dpm> hi cjwatson, if you've got some time next week, I'd like to talk a bit about debian-installer/ubiquity/oem-config/bootloader translations for Karmic at the sprint - just asking
[18:56] <cjwatson> dpm: sure, so would I
[18:58] <dpm> cool, then I'll speak to you next week. I'll be going  in a few minutes, so have a good weekend!
[19:35] <davmor2> shtylman: you around dude?
[19:40] <davmor2> evand: is shtylman the best guy to talk to about the kde where are you page in ubiquity-kde?
[19:47] <evand> davmor2: ja
[19:48] <davmor2> shtylman: lets do this the obvious way then and just put it out here.  On step 3 of 7 the "Where are you?" page in the gtk frontend you get a nice circle which makes it quite obvious where in the world the location is.   However in the kde version it is a tiny nigh on invisible cross and I have good eye sight.  Is there anyway that this can be change to the circle as in the gtk version.  I think it will help tho
[19:48] <davmor2> evand:  thanks
[19:51] <davmor2> shtylman: this is the screen http://www.davmor2.co.uk/kde/3of7.png
[21:05] <CIA-33> casper: cjwatson * r662 trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix disabling of apt-check (LP: #406191).
[22:02] <CIA-33> casper: cjwatson * r663 trunk/debian/changelog: r661 incidentally fixes LP: #406187


[03:04] <bryceh> @pilot in
[05:44] <bryceh> @pilot out
[12:23] <seb128> @pilot in
[15:19] <mitchdz> I'd like to make a suggestion to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess to have a template to cltr+c ctrl+v similar to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template
[18:24] <teward> tech board members: please check your emails RE: something that needs your attention under TB duties/charters.
[21:23] <seb128> @pilot out