[13:16] <grawity> Guidbuntu: ...do you have desktop effects on?
[13:16] <Guidbuntu> it's turned on
[13:16] <Dylan_> ffs why does ubuntu fail so bad
[13:16] <grawity> Guidbuntu: Then Compiz should be active.
[13:16] <bazhang> Dylan_, watch the language
[13:17] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:17] <Guidbuntu> though every time I scroll it only scrolls to the right workspace and not to the left space
[13:17] <jrib> haf1z: I just found it in appdb, check again
[13:17]  * grawity thinks "ffs why do other distro users fail so bad at complaining"
[13:17] <jrib> haf1z: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5668
[13:17] <haf1z> jrib: sory for that. its on my results as well. i might b mistype yday
[13:18] <jrib> haf1z: sopcast also seems to have native linux versions
[13:18] <haf1z> jrib: do you think it will work on 9.04
[13:18] <ircfine> hello, what's the problem with empathy ,i can not login in empathy , Authentication failed, "Enter password for default keyring to unlock"  it is locked /usr/bin/empathy   .  what to do ?
[13:18] <Euroman__> http://pastebin.com/f66e2b854
[13:18] <Mart||n> it tell u if needing upgrade ithink
[13:18] <Mart||n> u own paassword
[13:18] <stefg> !who | Euroman__
[13:19] <stefg> Euroman__: got it
[13:19] <grawity> ircfine: Have you changed your Ubuntu password recently?
[13:19] <Euroman__> steg good
[13:19] <Euroman__> thank u very much for help
[13:19] <Guidbuntu> I just had ... an EXTREME FAIL moment with my Windows XP installation ... my boot partition gave me a message "Error loading the OS" message and I had to reach for the Ubuntu Live CD and I had to grab TestDisk 6.11
[13:19] <Euroman__> my sdb drive is for system
[13:19] <ircfine> grawity: no
[13:20] <jrib> haf1z: if you google "ubuntu sopcast" you'll get a bunch of forum threads about it, no idea how well they work
[13:20] <Guidbuntu> thank goodness I recovered my files, I didn't have any backups on hand
[13:20] <Euroman__> i keep data separate on my new drive thats the idea
[13:20] <haf1z> jrib: ok. thx for ur infos
[13:20] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5.  Details please.
[13:21] <ircfine> grawity: giving password or not , same thing " "Enter password for default keyring to unlock"  it is locked /usr/bin/empathy   .  what to do ?"
[13:22] <Euroman__> yes probally easier
[13:22] <grawity> ircfine: The keyring password is usually the same as your login password.
[13:22] <simplexio> Euroman__: or simply install grub to every hd you have
[13:22] <Mart||n> easyu to fix if u dont wanna swap disk
[13:22] <Mart||n> due to raid setup
[13:22] <Revenous> i wish but you know what i mean
[13:22] <grawity> ircfine: If you cannot remember it, you can delete the keyring.
[13:22] <grawity> Revenous: No, I don't.
[13:22] <jrib> Revenous: I'm pretty sure no one does.
[13:22] <Euroman__> thanks everyone
[13:22] <Bluey_> can anyone help me with my wireless network problem?? here the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/253637/ .......
[13:22] <Revenous> hmmmmmm
[13:22] <Mart||n> log of wat
[13:22] <ftab> how I disable the evolution keyring which asks me for root password when even I start it
[13:22] <Euroman__> simplexic
[13:22] <simplexio> Euroman__: offcourse, when pointing /boot or / you may have manually edit grub boot after you take hd out
[13:22] <ircfine> grawity: but it's not working , i am giving the password , that password to install something with sudo aptitude "
[13:22] <Mart||n> anything interesting
[13:23] <Euroman__> simplexic thanks
[13:23] <Mart||n> he didnt say disable he said delete ur  one
[13:23] <ircfine> grawity: how can i delete the keyring ?
[13:23] <Boohbah> Revenous: which server are you referring to?
[13:23] <Mart||n> not teh owners one
[13:23] <pheonix> what is compiz manager equivalent in kubuntu
[13:23] <Euroman__> stefg and simpleaxic thanks for help
[13:23] <grawity> ircfine: Open Accessories -> Passwords and Encryption Keys. Then click the "Passwords" tab. It should list at least one keyring... right-click and delete.
[13:23] <Revenous> i guess i'm in the wrong chat... oh well... it's lastco.net
[13:23] <grawity> ircfine: Then restart Empathy.
[13:23] <simplexio> Euroman__: its woth o not c
[13:23] <Euroman__> is there anyway i can get read write permission on it now
[13:23] <jrib> Revenous: this is the ubuntu support channel
[13:23] <grawity> Revenous: Is lastco.net in any way related to the Ubuntu operating system?
[13:24] <grawity> Euroman__: Delete your keyring.
[13:24] <simplexio> Euroman__: ... with :)
[13:24] <Euroman__> ok thanks simplexio
[13:24] <grawity> Revenous: There is a channel #LastCo that may be related.
[13:24] <Revenous> not sure don't know and i am so sleepy and over tired i have no i dea what i'm doing
[13:24] <ircfine> grawity: from the password tab , or other encryption... ?
[13:24] <Euroman__> grawity dlete my keyring what will that do
[13:25] <Boohbah> Revenous: playing MMORPGs all night will do that
[13:25] <grawity> ircfine: The program should have four tabs - choose the last one, named "Passwords".
[13:25] <Revenous> hahaha well i have no gf atm so i have nothing else to do XD
[13:25] <Boohbah> Revenous: why not install ubuntu while you're here?
[13:26] <Mart||n> lol
[13:26] <Mart||n> me playing gow2
[13:26] <grawity> Revenous: I suggest porn.
[13:26] <Revenous> what is it what does it do and whate are the uses
[13:26] <grawity> Euroman__: Evolution saves your passwords in GNOME Keyring. If it cannot access the keyring, deleting it should help.
[13:26] <q0s> how do i find out in which package the file nvidia.ko exists?
[13:26] <Revenous> grawity: already happened but nothing XD
[13:26] <maul> ciao
[13:27] <Euroman__> grawity my problem is not being able to read write to my new hard drive installed
[13:27] <grawity> ircfine: Did you find and delete the keyring?
[13:27] <grawity> Euroman__: How did you install the drive, is it an external one?
[13:27] <moorthyvsm> Hello
[13:27] <Mart||n> then u not  booting the harddrive
[13:27] <Mart||n> please remoce  cd
[13:27] <Euroman__> no internal
[13:27] <stefg> !find nvidia.ko | q0s
[13:27] <Mart||n> dvd
[13:27] <Mart||n> lol
[13:27] <moorthyvsm> I am new be
[13:27] <ircfine> grawity: i deleted the key from the password tab
[13:27] <Mart||n> usb
[13:28] <moorthyvsm> can any one help me?
[13:28] <Mart||n> how did u install it
[13:28] <Euroman__> internal grawiity
[13:28] <Mart||n> the   generic way
[13:28] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:28] <grawity> ircfine: Now restart Empathy. It should ask for your IM passwords (Yahoo, MSN, others) and store them.
[13:28] <Mart||n> oh right u had a surge of electrictric that affect teh magnet pol of harddrive
[13:28] <Mart||n> and currpoted teh data
[13:28] <Mart||n> lol
[13:28] <Mart||n> hmmm
[13:28] <q0s> stefg, but some package must have installed this file :)
[13:28] <Euroman__> here u go grawity  http://pastebin.com/f66e2b854
[13:28] <Mart||n> wouldnt  explain a fuild gravity checker tho would it
[13:28] <moorthyvsm> Hi Euroman
[13:29] <simplexio> Euroman__: can't rw ? after you have make filesystem on disk or cant make fs at all
[13:29] <moorthyvsm> can you guide me here?
[13:29] <moorthyvsm> any one?
[13:29] <Mart||n> no
[13:29] <stefg> q0s: it's the nvidia kernel driver, pörolly build by dkms ... linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version) has it
[13:29] <Frivero> :p
[13:29] <nasser> hello
[13:29] <grawity> moorthyvsm: What is the problem you have?
[13:29] <simplexio> Euroman__: if you did make fs there, then problem is just that you have mount fs eith read only option, remount fixes that
[13:29] <kaddi> !hi |nasser
[13:29] <Euroman__> hello simplexio i can mout it but cant create folder or anything inside of it saying im not owner
[13:30] <Euroman__> as root i can do it all
[13:30] <simplexio> Euroman__: ahh... so its just permission problem
[13:30] <saturnfossil> use un restricted nvidia driver may good
[13:30] <nasser> Can I change the notify-osd font size ?
[13:30] <Euroman__> yes simpleaxio
[13:30] <simplexio> Euroman__: ntfs or proper linux fs ?
[13:30] <saturnfossil> get it from nvidia.com
[13:30] <haf1z> guys. what is this command for "sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:30] <stefg> ??
[13:30] <Euroman__> simplexio it is ext3
[13:31] <Euroman__> simplexio  http://pastebin.com/f66e2b854
[13:31] <jrib> haf1z: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man8/apt-get.8.html read about the --fix-broken option
[13:31] <ircfine> grawity: thank you very much
[13:31] <Mart||n> u over burning
[13:31] <Mart||n> or faulty disc
[13:32] <Mart||n> lower the  over burn by 2 mins of  what u thinkit should be
[13:32] <Mart||n> or do short lead out
[13:32] <Mart||n> or just ignore if u know the data would of fitted if it could close  entirly
[13:32] <Frivero> knock knock...
[13:32] <stefg> Euroman__: you should mount the drive by /etc/fstab on some sensible mount point (i use /store for such things). But i really recommend fixing the drive order before doing that
[13:32] <nasser> I'm using 9.10 alpha 4 and the notify-osd fonts are small for my taste, can I make them bigger ?
[13:32] <bazhang> nasser, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[13:32] <Bluey_> can anyone tell me how to reenable wireless network discovery after it has been automotically diabled?
[13:32] <cutout> am having problems connecting to vpn
[13:32] <nasser> oh sorry
[13:33] <Euroman__> stefg i wold like todo that can i do it without opening computer
[13:33] <bazhang> Bluey_, does ifconfig show it in terminal
[13:33] <ikanobori> cutout: 'Problems connecting to vpn' is a bad description of the problem.
[13:33] <haf1z> jrib: is there any command that will let us know whick program were not in use and can be remove
[13:33] <Guidbuntu> xchat went splat
[13:33] <Bluey_> bazhang, lemme check
[13:33] <jrib> haf1z: see "autoremove" in the same link
[13:33] <Euroman__> steg what i have done beofre is just mount my big drive after boot
[13:33] <Mart||n> yus
[13:33] <stefg> Euroman__: no ... but it should be easy to just swap the harddisk cables around
[13:34] <Mart||n> ps -aux
[13:34] <bazhang> Mart||n, ??
[13:34] <grawity> Mart||n: correction: ps aux
[13:34] <Euroman__> stefg i mount the new drive after boot
[13:34] <rapha> what was the karmic channel called again?
[13:34] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <grawity> rapha: #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <Euroman__> sure
[13:34] <Boohbah> rapha: #ubuntu+1
[13:34] <cutout> ikanobori will I installed pptp and configured it but it refuse to connect it says connection failed
[13:34] <rapha> thanks!
[13:34] <Guidbuntu> ?!?
[13:34] <rapha> strange
[13:34] <rapha> doesnt let me join
[13:34] <haf1z> jrib:  can help me out with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/253644/
[13:34] <Guidbuntu> what is "karmic" for, anyway?
[13:34] <bazhang> karmic koala
[13:34] <rapha> Guidbuntu: short for karmic koala (ubuntu 9.10)
[13:34] <Boohbah> rapha: is your nick identified?
[13:34] <Euroman__> ok after i do that stefg i will still ahve the problem
[13:34] <rapha> Boohbah: i'm even cloaked
[13:34] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:34] <Boohbah> Guidbuntu: it is the development version of ubuntu
[13:35] <Bluey_> bazhang, yup seems like it, i ran afconfig and i get eth0, lo, wlan0 and wmaster0
[13:35] <rapha> lol
[13:35] <Boohbah> rapha: maybe ask #freenode
[13:35] <rapha> Boohbah: it's an irssi problem i've joined too many channels lol
[13:35] <Mart||n> just do the  program way of  updating
[13:35] <ikanobori> cutout: That can mean anything from a wide range of problems. Including wrong username/password.
[13:35] <Mart||n> e.g in the help
[13:35] <jrib> haf1z: read: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[13:35] <Mart||n> as there is a unbutu pakage
[13:35] <Mart||n> i think
[13:35] <simplexio> Euroman__: in that case just "mount /dev/sda1 /test" should work if not try add "-o rw"
[13:35] <Mart||n> for the update
[13:35] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <Boohbah> rapha: ahh, there is also a server-side limit on number of channels
[13:35] <grawity> rapha: Freenode limits you to 20 channels per connection -- you can ask for removal of the limit though.
[13:35] <Pirate_Hunter> can anyone suggest a good alternative to pidgin that works in cli/tty i am looking for protocols like msn, aim, facebook & google (optional)
[13:35] <grawity> rapha: Just ask in #freenode :)
[13:35] <Mart||n> or the  unified version of installing
[13:35] <bazhang> Bluey_, which chipset check lspci or lsusb (depending if it is pci or usb)
[13:35] <stefg> Euroman__: there is no problem... you just need to properly set the drive up. That requires making a mount point, change ownership to it, and add a line in /etc/fstab
[13:35] <Mart||n> as it did for me with no probs
[13:35] <WinterWeaver> can anyone help me set up a wireless ad-hoc network between 2 ubuntu machines using network manager? I tried following this guide, but no success: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless?highlight=(ad-hoc)
[13:35] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Finch supports everything Pidgin does.
[13:35] <Frivero> there isnt
[13:35] <cutout> the ip/username/password are good I connected from xp machine
[13:36] <Q|> Does anyone have an idea why my flash plugin eats 50% CPU-Time? (Jaunty)
[13:36] <Mart||n> u set up  static ip  on both
[13:36] <Mart||n> and have same adhoc name
[13:36] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: It even uses the same backend. Also, by the way, the "google" protocol is actually called XMPP (previously Jabber)
[13:36] <Euroman__> stefg thank you very much
[13:36] <Mart||n> and then see if u can ping each machine
[13:36] <Mart||n> if so u have a connection
[13:36] <cutout> ikanobori the ip/username/password are good I connected from xp machine
[13:36] <Mart||n> if not stick one in  ap mode
[13:36] <Boohbah> Q|: because it's doing cpu-intensive processing
[13:36] <bazhang> !enter
[13:36] <stefg> Euroman__: but there is no use in doing that before the drives are in proper order
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, oooh thanks and it is meant for cli/tty no gui at all? how user friendly is it?
[13:36] <Mart||n> and then use one  wireless to connect to he other like a  dsl wireless connection
[13:36] <ikanobori> cutout: That says nothing about you typing them in correctly again, but let's assume you did ;-)
[13:36] <Mart||n> lol
[13:36] <Euroman__> simplexio thanks willl try
[13:37] <Q|> Boohbah: But it did not behave like that with Hardy
[13:37] <cutout> ikanobori eill Idid
[13:37] <ikanobori> cutout: Are the encryption settings allright?
[13:37] <WinterWeaver> hehe Mart||n ... thanks I'll have a look
[13:37] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Finch is the tty version of Pidgin, yes. (I have never used it though.)
[13:37] <cutout> hmmm
[13:37] <Mart||n> try with out encyption
[13:37] <Mart||n> first
[13:37] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: If you do not like Finch, you can try CenterIM too.
[13:37] <cutout> ikanobori what kind of encryption should I use
[13:37] <Euroman__> stefg i will see if i cant get that done today i cant easy get my computer out from where it is sitting
[13:37] <Mart||n> nps
[13:37] <ikanobori> cutout: Depends on the VPN you are connecting to.
[13:37] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: And there's also Bitlbee, which makes everything look like IRC
[13:37] <Mart||n> why u need to get comp out
[13:37] <Mart||n> whats prob
[13:37] <Meccano> Hello everyone
[13:37] <cutout> ikanobori in windows nothing is specified
[13:37] <haf1z> guys, how do i open my Repositories?
[13:38] <Mart||n> please say my name if u want me to see it
[13:38] <Euroman__> stefg but i will do it first thing
[13:38] <stefg> Euroman__: how did the big drive get in ?
[13:38] <Bluey_> bazhang, intel corp wireless wifi link 5100
[13:38] <Mart||n> boot to live distro
[13:38] <Euroman__> wel when i build the computer recent
[13:38] <jrib> haf1z: what does it mean to "open repositories"?  What are you trying to do?
[13:38] <Mart||n> cfdisk /dev/sdb
[13:38] <ikanobori> cutout: Are you connecting to a windows vpn?
[13:38] <bazhang> Bluey_, do you see drivers for it in hardware drivers
[13:38] <Mart||n> adn that maybe  correct without  chagne the drive letter frist
[13:38] <Mart||n> well device name
[13:38] <cutout> ikanobori yes
[13:38] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity,  will have a look at both of them, in your opinion how easy it is to use them or do i need to mess with lots of config files?
[13:38] <Mart||n> e.g /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[13:38] <Mart||n> /dev/sdd
[13:39] <Mart||n> unles it ide
[13:39] <Mart||n> old style
[13:39] <haf1z> jrib: ok.i found it. thx
[13:39] <Mart||n> then u would use /dev/hda
[13:39] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <Euroman__> stefg here it is my blog http://tnoergaard.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/new-computer-build/
[13:39] <Bluey_> bazhang, it was working perfecly yesterday. do u want to see the log from when it got disabled? i think the drivers are installed since it was working yesterday
[13:39] <ikanobori> cutout: And you have set the correct $SERVER, $DOMAIN? Have you tried with and without encryption?
[13:39] <Technocrat> ALL: Can anyone help me ! I am using Intrepid and looking for php plugins for eclipse
[13:39] <Mart||n> maybe u need to mkfs.ext3 the drive
[13:39] <Mart||n> cos u havec 2 linux system u  want
[13:39] <Euroman__> stefg i been building like 5 new systems recently
[13:39] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Messing with configs shouldn't be needed. Actually, if you already use Pidgin, then Finch will use the same configs.
[13:39] <bazhang> Bluey_, is the wifi spot open or encrypted
[13:39] <Bluey_> its open
[13:40] <cutout> ikanobori what domain but I'll try with and without encryption now
[13:40] <ikanobori> cutout: The network domain the VPN uses.
[13:40] <bazhang> Bluey_, what does sudo dhclient wlan0 return (paste.ubuntu.com with results)
[13:40] <Bluey_> bazhang, i m using this comp from the same network in a hotel
[13:40] <ikanobori> Probably, your company.
[13:40] <ircfine> grawity: how can i stop displaying offline friends in empathy ?
[13:40] <cutout> ikanobori is it an IP
[13:40] <Mart||n> if he is dhcped
[13:41] <Mart||n> then he could test with just a ping
[13:41] <Mart||n> of other vpn ip
[13:41] <stefg> Euroman__: i see ... as a word of advice: instead of spending money on blue case light, i'd rather buy a second 1,5 TB drive and do a raid 1 ...
[13:41] <Guidbuntu> xchat went splat again
[13:41] <ircfine> how can i stop displaying offline friends in empathy ?
[13:41] <Mart||n> e.g see if dhcp worked
[13:41] <Mart||n> or not
[13:41] <grawity> ircfine: There should be an option in the menus...I don't have empathy at the moment, so you'll need to find it yourself.
[13:41] <Mart||n> and wether it is needed for his problem
[13:41] <ikanobori> Mart||n: He can't even set up the PPTP tunnel.
[13:41] <bazhang> Mart||n, dont use enter as punctuation
[13:41] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, not on the box i just configured and i really wish not to install X on it, well will search for instruction on it
[13:41] <Euroman__> stefg ha ha i dont really spend much on that came with my sniper case
[13:41] <Guidbuntu> second time this has happened
[13:41] <Mart||n> lol
[13:41] <ikanobori> cutout: Let me put it this way, PPTP tunneling (VPN), works, if your settings are correct.
[13:41] <ikanobori> It won't magically *not* work.
[13:42] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Copying existing Pidgin conf works too. Finch and CenterIM are both quite easy though.
[13:42] <Guidbuntu> turned off the plugins
[13:42] <ircfine> grawity: view offline contact > view but it is unchecked , still the offline friends are in display . should i check this ?
[13:42] <Euroman__> stefg if u read review on that coolermaster case should be the top of the line
[13:42] <userbn> ow...
[13:42] <Meccano> Hello everyone
[13:42] <grawity> ircfine: Try toggling it... maybe they are online actually :\
[13:42] <jubei> join #
[13:43] <Euroman__> stefg i was thinking about raid
[13:43] <stefg> Euroman__: and after you have the big drive set up you should think about a smarter partitioning scheme for the actual system on th 160 GB drive. having /boot and /home separate has some advantages
[13:43] <ircfine> grawity: i checked the offline contacts , nothing happens
[13:43] <Mart||n> ues
[13:43] <Euroman__> stefg ok i will keep that in mind
[13:44] <Mart||n> like firmware type shadow
[13:44] <Euroman__> stefg so when u do install you jsut do your own partitioning
[13:44] <rek> bazhang:  settigs system pc connection UMS  tick it in the player and u r set :-)
[13:44] <Meccano> Hello everyone. I have a weird sound issue that recently occured. Is it the right place to look for help ?
[13:44] <stefg> Euroman__: my experience says that it's always hard to backup large drives. so the least you can do is buying a life insurance for your data against hd-failure by doing a mirror raid
[13:44] <Euroman__> stefg see what i did was just let grub handle it
[13:45] <stefg> Euroman__: but you installed before the big disk went in, right?
[13:45] <Euroman__> stefg you are totaly right i can only agree with u
[13:45] <Euroman__> stefg yes thats what i did
[13:45] <Mart||n> to back up a drive with some decent backup ooption ...cos u  reworte some configs or  maybe delete  200 gb
[13:45] <rek> bazhang i have som trouble creating a sheared folder
[13:45] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, ok just installed reading man pages might just copy my current pidgin conf on my main comp thank you
[13:45] <rek> must configure samba
[13:45] <Euroman__> i was just looking at building nice system with smaller drive for my os
[13:45] <Mart||n> u could par the whole patiotin every nite in to bout 100gb pars
[13:46] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: That should work. (It's in ~/.purple/)
[13:46] <abdo> hi all
[13:46] <Mart||n> and u will have a daily recovery
[13:46] <bazhang> rek, using samba? nfs? please clarify for the channel
[13:46] <Mart||n> system that is  damage proof
[13:46] <abdo> I have a problem with pidgin
[13:46] <Frivero> dunno if right place to ask: I currently have BOINC manager version 3.2.18 and want to upgrade to 3.4.5. Im really a noob to ubuntu and dont know how to upgrade this software, any help?
[13:46] <Euroman__> stefg and then i later added my 1.5tb
[13:46] <Mart||n> or at  this to the point of a small revoery company  fixing it in a few hours then a few millions years
[13:46] <Slart> abdo: what is the problem?
[13:46] <rek> i have gnome so i have only samba
[13:46] <abdo> evry time i tried to access my hotmail account
[13:46] <stefg> Euroman__: and the "wrong" disk order now is a time bomb... when the kernel gets updated or grub needs rewriting it will write to the wrong disk...  box won't boot
[13:46] <rek> yep must onfigure it correctly
[13:46] <Euroman__> stefg i do have another sata 500 gig drive but its close to full
[13:46] <Mart||n> due to only need to  replace the data to another device using the pars  for  correcting any data damage
[13:46] <Mart||n> or different
[13:46] <grawity> abdo: You mean MSN?
[13:47] <Zippert> Tog mig friheten att ändra lite i FlashGuiden för ubuntu
[13:47] <abdo> grawity
[13:47] <Euroman__> stefg i hear u
[13:47] <Mart||n> no u only need 1tenth for a for anice revoery
[13:47] <Slart> Zippert: tell the people in #ubuntu-se =)
[13:47] <Zippert> Sorry
[13:47] <abdo> grawity, yes
[13:47] <Mart||n> or maybe 200 gb on 1.5 system
[13:47] <Slart> Zippert: no worries
[13:47] <Euroman__> they way it is now larger drive dont boot automatic
[13:47] <Lunixed> Is there a Integrated Apache,mysql,phpmyadmin Server (Like wamp in wondows) in Linux ?
[13:47] <Julia> how can I make my own locale?
[13:47] <ircfine> grawity: can't login for an yahoo id , network error
[13:47] <Euroman__> stefg i mount larger drive manual after boot
[13:47] <Mart||n> no as teh 1024 sector
[13:47] <Julia> to change format
[13:47] <Mart||n> u have to have boot under 128 mb i think
[13:47] <Mart||n> maybe smaller
[13:48] <abdo> grawity, unable to authenticate authinication faluire
[13:48] <Meccano> Hello everyone. I have a weird sound issue that recently occured. Is it the right place to look for help ?
[13:48] <Mart||n> or enable  1024 limit fix
[13:48] <bazhang> Mart||n, who are you talking to
[13:48] <Slart> !enter | Mart||n, just so you don't forget..
[13:49] <Meccano> Already tried the forums and wouldn't like to file a bug if not necessary
[13:49] <Lunixed> Is there a Integrated Apache,mysql,phpmyadmin Server (Like wamp in wondows) in Linux ?
[13:49] <bazhang> Mart||n, prefix their name to your answers, and keep it on one line
[13:49] <Slart> !lamp
[13:49] <bazhang> Lunixed, yes see above
[13:49] <Euroman__> stefg can i right now do it like that manual mount it and then when getting another 1.5 change everything
[13:49] <grawity> Lunixed: Apache + MySQL + phpMyAdmin, of course :) See the message from ubottu.
[13:49] <abdo> Slart, every time i try to access login msn account using pidgin
[13:49] <isaac_> Is it possible to install Ubuntu to a flash drive........... just a regular install from the live cd........... and then clone it to other flash drives?
[13:49] <grawity> isaac_: Yes.
[13:49] <Lunixed> Thanks bazhang grawity :)
[13:50] <sthalik> hay anyone has the exploit fix for karmic?
[13:50] <Slart> abdo: ah.. you're using MSN.... so what happens when you try? you get some kind of error message? or it just doesn't work?
[13:50] <abdo> Slart, unable to authenticate authentication faluire
[13:50] <Bluey_> bazhang, sorry for being later.. heres the link fo the dhclient output
[13:50] <Slart> !karmic | sthalik
[13:50] <Bluey_> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/253648/
[13:50] <isaac_> grawity how do you copy the whole thing as bootable?  I keep getting files, but no boot.
[13:50] <Meccano> Hello everyone. I have a weird sound issue that recently occured. Is it the right place to look for help ?
[13:50] <Meccano> guess ,not...
[13:50] <sthalik> yeah i know it will break
[13:50] <abdo> Slart, this what i saw
[13:50] <Slart> abdo: are you running 9.04 ? what version of pidgin?
[13:50] <isaac_> Meccano patience.
[13:51] <isaac_> !patience | Meccano
[13:51] <Meccano> Ah at least an answer... thx isaac
[13:51] <abdo> Slart: yes I 'm running 9.04
[13:51] <bazhang> Bluey_, seems you need to associate with the AP here is a cli how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[13:51] <Slart> sthalik: that wasn't the important part of that message.. the important stuff was "support in #ubuntu+1" =)
[13:51] <Meccano> Just didn't watn  to flood the chat....
[13:51] <stefg> Euroman__: mkdir /media/bigdisk , sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/bigdisk ...
[13:51] <Meccano> No pb with waiting....
[13:51] <ongun> hi
[13:52] <Slart> abdo: what version of pidgin?
[13:52] <Meccano> Thx ubottu
[13:52] <ongun> ive got a prob.
[13:52] <abdo> Slart, 2.5.5
[13:52] <IdleOne> Meccano, please ask your question giving as much relevant info as possible in one posting.
[13:52] <ongun> who can help to me
[13:52] <Meccano> K idleone
[13:52] <abdo> Slart: 2.5.5
[13:52] <bazhang> ongun, ask all on one line
[13:53] <ongun> i opened pc with live cd
[13:53] <ongun> but i cant use the net
[13:53] <Euroman__> stefg ok and what about read write permisions
[13:53] <ongun> why ?
[13:53] <IdleOne> isaac_, in the future before telling people to chill, let them ask the question.
[13:53] <Meccano> No sound in one account (didn't upgrade..). Sound is fine in other account. Jaunty 9.04. AMD64
[13:53] <Slart> abdo: hmm.. that's the same version that I have.. and I can connect to msn just fine...  what does it say in the advanced settings of your msn account?
[13:53] <Bluey_> bazhang, thanks lemme try
[13:54] <stefg> Euroman__: you should be able to make a dir on /media/bigdisk , right?
[13:54] <Euroman__> stefg i can tell you know your stuff and i really apreciate all your help and time
[13:54] <Euroman__> stefg i will try that right now hold on
[13:55] <Meccano> No sound on GDM. No sound in one account. Sound is fine in other account. Jaunty 9.04. AMD64
[13:55] <TwoD_> I've got eth0 and wlan0 connected. eth0 used to be set to a router which had an internet connection, but that is now instead wlan0, but I can't access the net without disconnecting eth0. How do I set wlan0 to be the default route for internet access? (Both are a 192.168.0.x LAN with <IP_ADDRESS> as routers)
[13:55] <Slart> Meccano: isn't there an "audio" group the user has to be included in? or that was in some earlier version of ubuntu
[13:55] <abdo> Slart: protocol=MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, password=xxxxx ,
[13:55] <Mart||n> why would u want both
[13:56] <hafiz> guys, do you think there;s a problem with my ubuntu http://imagebin.org/59709
[13:56] <Mart||n> for example
[13:56] <Slart> abdo: the "Advanced" tab
[13:56] <bazhang> !who | Mart||n
[13:56] <Mrokii> hello. Removing apps completely doesn't work for me. No matter if I use the GUI (synaptic) or use "apt-get purge", the preferences-files stay on my HD.
[13:56] <Meccano> Hi Slart. Sound worked fine everywhere and suddenly no sound in one account.... weird
[13:56] <isaac_> IdleOne yup.   I got the wrong ubottu reference is all :/
[13:56] <Mart||n> sorry why would u want  lan and wlan on the same router
[13:56] <Mrokii> I am using Ubunut 64-bit 9.0.4, btw.
[13:56] <IdleOne> isaac_, it happens :)
[13:56] <Mart||n> not  with probs it dont
[13:57] <bazhang> Mart||n, tab complete the users name as a prefix to your answers please (first three or so letters then tab key)
[13:57] <hafiz> IdleOne: what problem with my firefox http://imagebin.org/59709 i restarted my firefox but still the same
[13:57] <Slart> abdo: I've got "Server: messenger.hotmail.com", "Port: 1863" "Use http method is not checked"
[13:57] <abdo> Slaert: server=messenger.hotmail.com , port=1863, proxy type=use gnome proxy type
[13:57] <IdleOne> hafiz, what did you do before you got that?
[13:57] <Slart> Meccano: if you go to System, Administration, Users and groups
[13:57] <abdo> Slart: server=messenger.hotmail.com , port=1863, proxy type=use gnome proxy type
[13:58] <abdo> Slart: also as you
[13:58] <Meccano> checking....
[13:58] <hafiz> IdleOne: i run sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:58] <hafiz> IdleOne: thats it i do
[13:58] <Euroman__> stefg i did it and it mount but it will not let me create folder or anythin inside
[13:58] <muxfr> allright, can it be a bug in ubuntu, that 's preventing my audio from starting even though the card is recognized?
[13:59] <Slart> Meccano: properties for the user.. check the tab "User privileges".. there should be a  "Use audio devices".. try checking that box and see if sound starts working
[13:59] <Euroman__> stefg saying i am not the owner
[13:59] <Mart||n> do sudo mnt
[13:59] <Mart||n> then
[13:59] <IdleOne> hafiz, that is the login for freenode webchat, I believe you need to enter a nickname and a #channel then click login
[13:59] <Slart> Meccano: afaik that is the same thing as making sure the user is in the "audio" group
[13:59] <Euroman__> stefg when i did partition with gparted i did it with partmaigc disk
[13:59] <abdo> Slart: I can't find where is the problem
[13:59] <IdleOne> err click connect that is
[14:00] <Slart> abdo: neither can I... it seems we have the same settings.. can you login to your hotmail account to make sure it still exists?
[14:00] <abdo> yes
[14:00] <hafiz> IdleOne: yes, but doesnt it look weird. it suppose to be like that rite.
[14:00] <TwoD_> Mart||n: I normally have an ADSL modem connected to the router on eth0, but my ISP has messed it up so I can't get an IP. I'm temporarily using my laptop as a router since it has a 3G modem. The rest of the computers are still on eth0 as they don't need net access.  I could also use eth0 and eth1 instead of wlan0 on my regular comp of course, but I figured it shouldn't make much of a...
[14:00] <TwoD_> ...difference and I like being able to move my laptop.
[14:00] <abdo> Slart: I did
[14:00] <hafiz> IdleOne: yes, but doesnt it look weird. it not suppose to be like that rite.
[14:00] <stefg> Euroman__: ok, so run sudo chown [username] /media/bigdisk && sudo chmod 775 /media/bigdisk
[14:00] <IdleOne> hafiz, looks like you need to change your locales or install a language pack. I am not sure
[14:01] <IdleOne> !locales | hafiz
[14:01] <Mart||n> oh right access teh manual for router to change ur mac adress for the wireless
[14:01] <Euroman__> stefg you are the man i owe you let me do this
[14:01] <Mart||n> in the main setup router page
[14:01] <hafiz> IdleOne: i have this one after i connected to the chatroom http://imagebin.org/59710
[14:02] <TwoD_> Mart||n: why would I need to change the MAC?
[14:02] <isaac_> grawity how do you copy the whole thing as bootable?  I keep getting files, but no boot.  I'll rtfm if I can find a manual to read.
[14:03] <Meccano> Slart box wasn't checked but no change after checking....
[14:03] <IdleOne> !TOR-GPG > hafiz
[14:03] <IdleOne> !proxy > hafiz
[14:03] <IdleOne> hafiz,  read the messages from ubottu they should help you
[14:04] <Mart||n> cso u said it worked now it dont
[14:04] <Mart||n> and  if it  dsl related with etho net
[14:04] <Slart> Meccano: did you logout and login again with the user?
[14:04] <Mart||n> then u need to  probably  tell route to give u  new  pc mac code to it
[14:04] <abdo> Slart: when i install ubuntu i remove every thing in sound and video category but pidgin
[14:04] <Mart||n> like most ppl do in england on   cable
[14:05] <abdo> Slart: do you think that broke some issues about pidgin
[14:05] <Mart||n> #or turn router off for 6 mins
[14:05] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, you still here?
[14:05] <Slart> abdo: hmm.. I don't really think so..either pidgin would start and then work completely.. or not start at all..
[14:05] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Yes
[14:06] <Mart||n> maybe but what if u use 8mb  x 8
[14:06] <Meccano> Ooops no doing it right now disconnect and reconnect to the room then....brb
[14:06] <Mart||n> it does work tho
[14:06] <stefg> Euroman__: got to leave... should work now
[14:06] <TwoD_> Mart||n: I't my ADSL modem which doesn't get an IP, I tested without the router as well. I was away for two weeks and when I got back and turned everything on, the modem setup pages just said "connected" but no ip.
[14:06] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, how do i enable facebook chat or what is the protocol for it?
[14:06] <Mart||n> or use docs  suggest it does with they  topic they do
[14:06] <Mart||n> then u will never get a net connect til thats fix
[14:06] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: The only way I can think of, is to install the Pidgin Facebook plugin.
[14:06] <abdo> Slart: alsos i though about MSN certificate
[14:07] <Mart||n> u mac addy of wlsan
[14:07] <GPL> i installed LAMP successfully , and extracted phpMyAdmin into my /var/www folder, but visiting http://localhost/phpMyAdmin gives me 404 error
[14:07] <Slart> abdo: it uses certificates?
[14:07] <abdo> Slart: how can totally remove pidin and re install it
[14:07] <Euroman__> stefg thanks very much
[14:07] <Mart||n> i cant find lamp for unbuntu in pakackages
[14:07] <Euroman__> i apreciate
[14:08] <GPL> any ideas ? :)
[14:08] <Slart> abdo: sudo apt-get purge pidgin; sudo apt-get install pidgin
[14:08] <grawity> Slart: MSN uses HTTP+SSL (HTTPS) for auth, so yes, it uses certificates.
[14:08] <Euroman__> stefg anyway i can get in touch with you other time
[14:08] <Meccano> Back.
[14:08] <IdleOne> !lamp > Mart||n
[14:08] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, what is it caleld because i just did a search on hardy and prism-facebook is all that came up which i am sure it isn't for pidgin
[14:08] <Hodapp> 'firefox' runs fine from the terminal but an icon set to execute 'firefox' (or /usr/bin/firefox) does nothing... anyone know what's going on?
[14:08] <Meccano> No change slart
[14:08] <Slart> grawity: ahh.. didn't know that.. I suppose pidgin handles that by itself... at least I've never had to mess with it
[14:08] <grawity> Slart: It usually does
[14:09] <Mart||n> lol so thats what it uses
 u fk off
[14:09] <grawity> Denied.
[14:09] <Mart||n> staic  words in sentence fo begging
[14:09] <TwoD_> Mart||n: The wlan works fine, it's a peer to peer network between my laptop and my regular comp where the laptop share's its internet connection. I just want to know how to tell Ubuntu to use that interface when I try to access an external ip, instead of eth0.
[14:09] <Meccano> Checked the groups. No audio group.... should I create it and add users ? Thing that puzzles me is that I don't have sound on login screen but sound in one account when everything was OK......
[14:09] <Mart||n> ok thats ur prob
[14:09] <Slart> Meccano: it might be called "pulse" or "pulse-access"
[14:09] <Mart||n> hennot doing what u  said in firstce u
[14:09] <Mart||n> plaang icsce if u was usi
[14:09] <Mart||n> u shoudl of said
[14:09] <Mart||n> but alas
[14:09] <grawity> Mart||n: What is _your_ problem?
[14:09] <FloodBot3> Mart||n: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:09] <bazhang> Mart||n, stop with the enter
[14:09] <Mart||n> just  ifconfig eth0 or wlan0 down
[14:09] <Meccano> Right I saw a pulse group....checking
[14:10] <Slart> Mart||n: please.. english.. and enter.. and common sense
[14:10] <Mart||n> and then  ifconfig eth0 ipaddy...not the wlan0 one
[14:10] <GPL> bazhang : how about the webcam issue, and can ya help with my phpMyAdmin problem :(
[14:10] <Mart||n> up..th up.similiar to the down command jsut wi t put ijsut
[14:10] <Meccano> slart ; all users in the group but none checked....
[14:11] <pheonix> how do i change the user of a file
[14:11] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, what is it called because i just did a search on hardy and prism-facebook is all that came up which i am sure it isn't for pidgin
[14:11] <Mart||n> i can do webcam
[14:11] <pheonix> please help me
[14:11] <TwoD_> Mart||n: are you drunk? that makes little sense
[14:11] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Hardy? :o
[14:11] <Mart||n> jsut dmesg | grep usbvideo
[14:11] <GPL> !chmod > pheonix
[14:11] <Slart> Meccano: only the users that have the checkbox checked are in the group
[14:11] <Mart||n> and if it oupts then u have usbvid
[14:11] <Mart||n> wether internal or extern
[14:12] <Slart> Meccano: but I don't think that's it.. my user isn't in the pulse group either.. and I have sound working alright
[14:12] <Meccano> K. Should I add user in group considering other user not in group has sound ?
[14:12] <Slart> Meccano: what happens if you try playing a sound in a terminal.. say with "aplay /dev/urandom".. do you get an error message?
[14:12] <Segaja> hi, how can i see weither my ubuntu has recognized my TWAIN scanner in the correct manner?
[14:13] <grafted3> try scanning something
[14:13] <Meccano> slart: no error. says playing but not sound....
[14:13] <Hodapp> Segaja: sane-find-scanner is one place to start.
[14:13] <Slart> Segaja: try running xsane.. I think it lists the connected scanners in some way
[14:13] <Hodapp> or xsane.
[14:13] <Slart> Meccano: are you using pulse audio?
[14:14] <Meccano> slart: in sound I use automatic and alsa....
[14:14] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: In Jaunty, it's pidgin-facebookchat.
[14:14] <Segaja> xsane sais no device found. so does sane-find-scanner
[14:14] <Meccano> I mean auto-detect....
[14:14] <Meccano> (system is in French.... :)
[14:14] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: It's in the 'universe' repos however.
[14:14] <Slart> Meccano: try running this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install pavucontrol padevchooser paman" then run the pulse audio volume control from the Applications, Sound & Video menu
[14:14] <Segaja> the modules parport_pc and parport are loaded
[14:15] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, errrh for those using hardy how can i get it?
[14:15] <Segaja> Slart and Hodapp: both find nothing
[14:15] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Do you have the 'universe' repos enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list? It might be there.
[14:16] <jrgp> do nvidia proprietary drivers work with Karmic Alpha 4?
[14:16] <Slart> Segaja: then I think it's safe to assume your scanner isn't detected
[14:16] <Slart> !karmic | jrgp
[14:16] <Segaja> Slart: any idea why?
[14:16] <Segaja> according to mustek.com sane should be able to support it
[14:16] <Slart> Segaja: nope.. I don't think I've ever had a scanner connected to my ubuntu box
[14:16] <jrgp> Slart: I'm aware of the risks, just wondering about the nvidia functionality
[14:16] <Segaja> the sane homepage aggrees
[14:16] <Slart> jrgp: read the last part of the message... "support on #ubuntu+1"
[14:16] <Meccano> slart: sound's back Hurray !!!!!
[14:16] <jrgp> ah
[14:17] <Slart> *in
[14:17] <Slart> jrgp: =)
[14:17] <piotrek> hello, sorry for my english. I have problem with svn: "Connection closed unexpectedly". Have anybody this problem?
[14:17] <Slart> Meccano: ahh.. that fixed it? sweet
[14:17] <Meccano> sound was muted in playback....
[14:17] <Slart> Meccano: tricky =)
[14:17] <Segaja> so, does anyone else has any idea why my system does not recognise the scanner?
[14:17] <Meccano> Yep couldn't find it. far from a rocket scientist I guess.....
[14:17] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, i have but it aint just went to ubuntu package and it starts from intrepid onwards nothing for hardy, i aint to sure about using intrepid repository on hardy, im sure it might break something
[14:18] <bazhang> Segaja, make and model?
[14:18] <Meccano> Anyway thx a million !!!
[14:18] <Segaja> bazhang: mustek MFS-6000SP
[14:18] <Segaja> it is old, i know :)
[14:18] <Meccano> restart PC for final check
[14:18] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: You could just download the .deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:18] <grawity> Pirate_Hunter: Or you could upgrade to Jaunty.
[14:18] <Slart> Meccano: you're welcome
[14:18] <Meccano> In case I don't come back, have a great day and take care
[14:19] <Meccano> Bye all. Great room. Hope I don't have to come back ;)
[14:19] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, will just try to get the intrepid version and install it not too sure if it is wise dont want to upgrade quite happy with hard maybe when the next lst comes out
[14:20] <thinkertinker> hi i got a problem with my mouse.I switched the mousebuttons(right button as primary)but every time i restart jaunty the mouse falls back to default setting(left button as primary)
[14:20] <MeanGene> Canucklehead
[14:20] <bobg> hello, I need to update a LH-20A1P dvd writer -- there exists only a windows exe installer -- I have tried wine (seg fault) and a vbox win VM (no pci pass through).  How else can I update this drive?
[14:21] <MeanGene> Why when I start Firefox either from the Panel or from the list, two copies always open?
[14:21] <Segaja> bazhang: so, andy ideas?
[14:21] <bazhang>  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/sane-mustek.5.html
[14:21] <jrib> thinkertinker: how did you switch it?
[14:21] <bazhang> Segaja, should work no problems
[14:22] <Segaja> bazhang: that is what mustek.com and sane-project.org say :)
[14:22] <StrangeCharm> is the main repo package 'sbnc' shroudBNC, or is it another program?
[14:22] <Segaja> but it does not
[14:22] <Hodapp> MeanGene: I get zero copies open when I use the Panel. Could I have one of yours?
[14:22] <jrib> !info sbnc | StrangeCharm
[14:22] <bazhang> Segaja, you installed all the libsane packages?
[14:22] <grawity> StrangeCharm: apt-cache show sbnc
[14:22] <bobg> MeanGene: check your home page -- there is a syntax to open multiple tabs/windows
[14:22] <Segaja> bazhang: oehm... sane was installed so i guessed they are all installed. but i will check
[14:23] <bazhang> Segaja, should be at least three
[14:23] <Segaja> libsane-extra and so on?
[14:23] <MeanGene> Thanks I will look for that
[14:23] <StrangeCharm> well, there we go, who'd have thought, jrib, grawity
[14:24] <Hodapp> bobg: Any idea why my attempt to run Firefox from the panel results in no copies opening, but it runs fine from a terminal?
[14:24] <Segaja> bazhang: the following are allready installed: libsane, xsane, xsane-common, sane-utils, sane
[14:24] <Segaja> i will now install libsane-extras
[14:25] <bobg> Hodapp: right-click on the panel icon and choose "properties" -- see what command its executing
[14:25] <Hodapp> bobg: The same command as when I run from terminal.
[14:25] <muxfr> Anybody here got audio working in an hp dv6 labtop?
[14:25] <Hodapp> bobg: And I get the same effect if I do /usr/bin/firefox instead.
[14:26] <Segaja> bazhang: still nothing
[14:26] <bazhang> Segaja, using what app to scan
[14:26] <Segaja> bazhang: at the moment i'm trying sane-find-scanner, xsane and quiteinsane
[14:26] <Segaja> but all say the same: no device found
[14:27] <jiohdi> I installed java runtime per instructions found on java page for linux... but firefox did not recognized it... what did I do wrong?
[14:27] <grawity> jiohdi: If you installed the Sun Java runtime, you need sun-java6-plugin too.
[14:27] <bobg> Hodapp: wierd -- try entering another command like "gedit" to see what happens
[14:28] <Hodapp> bobg: That works...
[14:28] <jiohdi> grawity... shouldnt the web page have mentioned that?
[14:28] <bobg> Hodapp: also, is type set to "Application" (in the properties dialog)
[14:28] <Hodapp> bobg: Yeah.
[14:28] <grawity> jiohdi: I don't know. The runtime itself is for standalone applications -- it is not limited to webpages.
[14:28] <bobg> my command (hardy) in the FF launcher is "firefox %u"
[14:29] <bobg> Hodapp:
[14:29] <jiohdi> grawity, I have two firefoxes installed, one that came with ubuntu and one that I got from mozilla as the latest version
[14:29] <Hodapp> bobg: Mine is too but the %u seems to make no difference.
[14:29] <mrapplecomputer1> ugh, whenever i run any apt-get command, i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38568580 ideas
[14:29] <jiohdi> when I went back to the old one, the java install option existed but on the new one, it said manually only
[14:30] <jiohdi> once I installed the old one, both worked
[14:30] <muxfr> nobody uses HP dv6?
[14:30] <bobg> Hodapp: maybe try creating a new launcher from scratch?  I am outta ideas
[14:30] <jiohdi> but I am still curious as to why the install I did per their instructions failed
[14:30] <Hodapp> hmm
[14:30] <rek> created a shared folder in ubuntu...how can i browse it from windows?
[14:31] <bobg> Hodapp: oh, check the /var/log/syslog to see if there is an error when you try to launch FF
[14:31] <thinkertinker_> 1 more prob:how to flush my dns cache in ubuntu jaunty??
[14:32] <mrapplecomputer1> macuser_: whenever i run any apt-get command, i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38568580 ideas??
[14:32] <Hodapp> bobg: nothing there.
[14:32] <bobg> what to do when you need to update a hardware's firmware and there is only a windows exe?
[14:32] <Segaja> bazhang: what would you use for scanning?
[14:32] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, what do you use apt-get with?
[14:32] <pheonix> hi i have started a new hub server using opendchub, but the users are getting very slow speed, in KB's !!
[14:32] <pheonix> please help me
[14:32] <mrapplecomputer1> remove, autoclean, etc
[14:32] <grawity> bobg: I dual-boot Windows :) Sometimes, if the .exe just extracts things to a floppy, I use another computer.
[14:32] <Segaja> bobg: i would use virtualBox or my windows :)
[14:33] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: and purge
[14:33] <grawity> Segaja: That wouldn't work if the updater requires access to the hardware mentioned.
[14:33] <grawity> Segaja: As is the case with CD drives, for example.
[14:33] <Segaja> grawity: true, thatn the virtualBox would not work
[14:33] <Hodapp> It would work only in isolated cases...
[14:33] <bobg> Segaja: I tried vbox but it does not recognize the drive b/c vbox provides a virtual drive
[14:33] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, thats a weird problem i don't know how to fix
[14:33] <grawity> Segaja: Then nothing but Windows would work, I guess.
[14:33] <Hodapp> bobg: Nothing of interest there.
[14:34] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: i know! its really stumped me, and im not new to ubuntu/*nix
[14:34] <jiohdi> bobg, wine?
[14:34] <bobg> jiohdi: in wine, It runs, but then I get a segfault
[14:34] <mrapplecomputer1> ANY apt-get command i run i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m38568580
[14:34] <soreau> bobg: If alls the manufacturer offers is an exe method, you will  have to run it from a true windoze environment
[14:35] <Segaja> grawity: i agree. the good think i still have xp in a corner of my drive :)
[14:35] <soreau> bobg: I dont think theres a windoze live cd but I could be wrong
[14:35] <bobg> grawity: soreau, would a xen VM work if I configure a pci pass through for teh drive?
[14:35] <Hodapp> soreau: Probably not legally, but meh
[14:35] <grawity> soreau: BartPE is, kind of.
[14:35] <tzd> hi everyone! Can someone please help me with my surround sound that doesn't work? I'm using alsa v. 1.0.20, nothing is muted in Alsamixer. I've connected my Asus P5N-D motherboard with integrated Nvidia HD 883 sound to my receiver via SPDIF optical cable. I get sound within Mplayer in all my speakers but when i run the "speaker-test" it's all muted. Please help me!
[14:35] <grawity> bobg: What exactly are you updating?
[14:36] <grawity> bobg: If Windows gets pure unrestricted access to that particular device - then yes, it probably would work.
[14:36] <soreau> bobg: For updating firmware, thats probably not a good idea
[14:36] <bobg> grawity: a LH-20A1P Liteon dvd writer
[14:36] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, something about , bad allocation
[14:36] <GPL> Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope uses which Linux Kernel [ is it 2.6.11 + ] or [ 2.6.11 - ] , i need t o know that, in order to install a set of drivers for my webcame ???
[14:36] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: yea, what does that mean though......
[14:36] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo Segaja I've not currently got a scanner, this link may have some info however
[14:37] <bobg> GPL: jaunty uses 2.6.28
[14:37] <IdleOne> GPL, uname -a
[14:37] <bazhang> <IP_ADDRESS>.19 GPL
[14:37] <GPL> bobg : IdleOne : thanks
[14:37] <GPL> bazhang: thanks, hows the search going ?
[14:37] <Lion-O> can i get help here?
[14:37] <tr3ei> hi :). Can someone tell me how to use "memmap" to specify multiple intervals of my RAM? (for example... i want to "ban" 30 MB... from 600 to 630 and 20M from 800 to 820)
[14:37] <tr3ei> Simple usage... only one interval "banned" : memmap=30M$600M ... written in the menu.lst file
[14:38] <bazhang> GPL, sorry could you give me the cam name again?
[14:38] <Segaja> bazhang: okay thanks. i'll work my way through this doc
[14:38]  * mrapplecomputer1 doesnt think anyone is going to help him :P :P
[14:38] <ikonia> mrapplecomputer1: someone will help when they can, adding me noise to the channel with /me commands won't help
[14:38] <jiohdi> IdleOne: is there a thingy like that to tell when I installed ubuntu?
[14:38] <mrapplecomputer1> ikonia: sorry
[14:38] <Segaja> bazhang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersMustek << this list has not the MFS-6000SP so ubuntu does not support it?
[14:39] <bobg> Lion-O: sorry, help is only for those who don;t ask if they can get help:)  -- just ask the question
[14:39] <grawity> mrapplecomputer1: If nobody answers, nobody knows. You could try #debian and/or ##linux
[14:39] <Pirate_Hunter> grawity, finch works well the facebook plugin keeps giving segmentation faults but than it isnt intended for hardy still thanks
[14:39] <GPL> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:00f7 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-1000.  Bus 002 Device 003: ID 5543:0004 UC-Logic Technology Corp. Genius MousePen 5x4 Tablet | this is the result of "lsusb" command :) i am struggling to setup this.
[14:39] <Bluey_> !paste blue_
[14:39] <bazhang> Segaja, that list is likely out of date, nothing on ubuntuforums show anything wrong, just some eastern european mailing lists
[14:39] <mrapplecomputer1> ok thanks grawity
[14:39] <Bluey_> !paste bluey_
[14:39] <GPL> bazhang: ^^ there.
[14:40] <Lion-O> hi im getting the messege: "this kernel requires an x86-64 cpu,but only detects an i686 cpu......" while trying to install or use ubuntu on a lapto,can anyone help me?
[14:40] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter, the 1.60 version of that plugin seems to be working well for me. I just installed it ten minutes ago
[14:40] <ikonia> Lion-O: you're using a 64bit os on a 32bit machine
[14:40] <ikonia> Lion-O: download the 32bit os
[14:40] <bazhang> Lion-O, wrong type of cd
[14:40] <Segaja> bazhang: agreed. the SANE homepage is listing the scanner as fully supported
[14:40] <mrapplecomputer1> Lion-O: i believe you need x32
[14:40] <Lion-O> where do i get it?
[14:41] <tr3ei> hi :). Can someone tell me how to use "memmap" to specify multiple intervals of my RAM? (for example... i want to "ban" 30 MB... from 600 to 630 and 20M from 800 to 820)
[14:41]  * bobg is leaving to go dig up an old windows CD
[14:41] <mrapplecomputer1> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[14:41] <jrib> Lion-O: download the i386 version from ubuntu.com
[14:41] <legend2440> !paste | Bluey_
[14:41] <Lion-O> thanks!
[14:41] <RV2D> HI ! /var/lib/dpkg/available broken ! how can I fix it ?
[14:41] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, A bad_alloc() an exception thrown by C++ when it runs out of heap memory.
[14:41] <mrapplecomputer1> Lion-O: yep
[14:42] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: sooo what should i do? power cycle it or something?
[14:42] <thiebaude> mrapplecomputer1, i don't know what to say, i was just searching on google and didn't find much
[14:43] <mrapplecomputer1> thiebaude: i know, i always check google first ;)
[14:43] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, i am using 8.04 :(
[14:44] <IdleOne> 9.04 here Pirate_Hunter
[14:45] <MeanGene> bobg Thanks a lot.
[14:45] <cyberfin> Running Ubuntu 9.04 64-amd; Could someone please tell me why I can open apps from the menu using alt-f1 and selecting an app with 'enter', but can't open apps with a mouse click? Very weird...
[14:46] <bazhang> GPL, there are a number of posts on ubuntuforums to get it working, some compiling necessary though search terms : LifeCam VX-1000 ubuntu
[14:46] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, no wonder there is probably a way for me to get it working will check when i am bothered
[14:46] <monostone> hi, i'm in the middle of learning how to properly burn cds and dvds via the cl, but i just read that wodim is buggy and being left aside in favor of cdrecord, is this true? i have always used genisoimage/wodim combo should I switch to mkisofs/cdrecord?
[14:46] <RV2D> HI ! /var/lib/dpkg/available broken ! how can I fix it ?
[14:46] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter, there is a package in the repos also
[14:47] <GPL> bazhang : i tried some of them :) , most of them didnt work, trying others.
[14:48] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, no there isn't at least not for pidgin/finch it does say facebook but i dont know what it works with?
[14:48] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter, again I should of specified in 9.04 pidgin-facebookchat
[14:48] <cyberfin> Another symptom is that from the places menu I can only get stuff to open if I right-click it. If I left-click, nothing...
[14:49] <Bluey_> bazhang, hi, i tried the things in the wireless manual configuration thing you suggested.....but i still said that not DHCPOFFER received.  in this screen shot u can see that the "enable wireless" button is greyed out in nm-manager. can you please help me with that? http://imagebin.org/59715
[14:50] <cyberfin> Running Ubuntu 9.04 64-amd; Could someone please tell me why I can open apps from the menu using alt-f1 and selecting an app with 'enter', but can't open apps with a mouse click? Very weird... plaz help
[14:50] <bazhang> Bluey_, how did you associate the AP ? what command did you give
[14:50] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, lol conversation going in circle i know i understood :p
[14:50] <Bluey_> bazhang,  what is AP?
[14:51] <bazhang> Bluey_, the access point (wifi hotspot)
[14:51] <cyberfin> could anyone at least point me in the right direction?
[14:52] <Bluey_> bazhang,
[14:52] <Bluey_> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "ADAGIO_by_Meteror"
[14:52] <bruce927> How do I change my network workgroup in ubuntu?
[14:52] <bazhang> Bluey_, then iwconfig shows it associated?
[14:53] <bazhang> cyberfin, bluetooth mouse? compiz enabled? please more details
[14:53] <grawity> bruce927: The Samba workgroup can be changed in system-config-samba tool.
[14:53] <cyberfin> compiz enabled yes, not bt mouse
[14:53] <Bluey_> bazhang, wiconfig says not associated
[14:54] <Bluey_> bazhang, is ESSID and SSID the same thing? it says ESSID="ADAGIO_BY_METEOR" mode :managed but the AP is Not Associated
[14:55] <cyberfin> just changed window manager to metacity... no change
[14:55] <bazhang> Bluey_, have you tried to sudo dhclient wlan0 since that time? (of the sudo iwconfig command)
[14:56] <bruce927> cheers grawity
[14:56] <Lion-O> im downloading :)
[14:56] <bazhang> Bluey_, sometimes takes a couple of tries with odd hotspots
[14:57] <Bluey_> bazhang, yes i ran all these commands........http://paste.ubuntu.com/253667/ in sequence
[14:57] <Lion-O> 1283 users her :O
[14:57] <Lion-O> here
[14:57] <Lion-O> :O
[14:57] <IdleOne> Lion-O, yes it is slow today
[14:57] <Lion-O> haha :)
[14:58] <_mnemonic76> I am trying to understand the details of what happens when I plug a usb drive in in Ubuntu... the details of what makes it appear automatically for me to mount.
[14:59] <_mnemonic76> I have a minimal ubuntu install on an old laptop using fluxbox instead of gnome... and I don't know what I need to add to make it function MORE like the gnome (basically the automounting)
[15:00] <bazhang> Bluey_, could you pastebin you actually running those commands from the first part of the link I gave you (re unencrypted networks)
[15:00] <grawity> _mnemonic76: Start with udev, I think. (And hal, though it's getting slowly removed.) In GNOME, the mounting itself is handled by Nautilus and gnome-volume-manager, but I think it is possible to make udev do it.
[15:00] <_mnemonic76> grawity: thanks for the tip
[15:02] <Bluey_> bazhang, this is the syslog around the time i started having the problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/253668/ i will send u the output for the commands next .
[15:04] <Segaja> is there some simple way to find out weither my kernel supports SCSI?
[15:05] <Bluey_> bazhang,  here is the actual running of the  commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/253671/
[15:07] <detrix> Hello folks.  I just installed firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko)  How do I get the Prefered Applications to recognize it?  I mean when I am in thunderbird and click on a like it would launch firefox.  I tried a custom entry to Shiretoko but thats not working.  What else do I need to do?
[15:08] <carlos> #ubuntu-es
[15:08] <Segaja> nobody?
[15:09] <cute_bettong> hi im trying to setup my computer and laptop to use the ubuntu remote desktop connection software, is there anything specal i need to do to make this work? no matter what i try i cannot access my laptop from my desktop even on the same network, is there anything specific i need to setup before i can utilise this service?
[15:10] <Bluey_> bazhang, any idea whats wrong ?
[15:10] <legend2440> detrix: system>prferences>preferred apps
[15:10] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879134&page=7 Bluey_ there is a thread here but it is a bit old, I will continue to look however
[15:11] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the file extension for pidgin plugins?
[15:11] <slayton> Does anybody know of a program that can be used to parse a simple online calendar?
[15:11] <Bluey_> bazhang,  wooo hooooo
[15:11] <detrix> legend2440: I did that, but I had to use the custom option because "Shiretoko" does not show up in the popup list.
[15:12] <Bluey_> bazhang,  i restarted and its working like magic.. thank you thank you so much . i love  u in a totally non-gay way. you Sir are my god
[15:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7415234&postcount=3 Bluey_ this is wpa2 but the modprobe commands may pertain to your issue
[15:12] <bazhang> Bluey_, it works now?
[15:12] <bazhang> Bluey_, that is great. nicely done
[15:12] <legend2440> detrix: yes you have to put it in custom.  this worked for me    firefox-3.5 %s
[15:12] <Bluey_> bazhang, yup... i just needed to restart the stupid laptop......... but as i said u are god
[15:13] <detrix> cute_bettong: on the laptop go to System -> Administration -> login window
[15:13] <detrix> legend2440: ahhh I typed "Shiretoko"   got it thanx
[15:13] <moldy> hi
[15:14] <moldy> is there some standard format for referencing bugs on launchpad in debian/changelog files?
[15:16] <Bluey_> bazhang,  one last thing can u tell me where i can learn more about this? will i find these in the man page or some good ref book?
[15:16] <detrix> cute_bettong: click on the remote tab
[15:16] <detrix> cute_bettong: click on the remote login disabled and enable it
[15:17] <bazhang> Bluey_, that link I gave you is a pretty good primer, there is a general ubuntu guide book for more than wireless here --> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ free pdf
[15:18] <Bluey_> bazhang, thanks you
[15:18] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 Bluey_ that link in case you missed it (or forgot to bookmark)
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> hello
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> to all
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> i am noob
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> gg
[15:19] <Xauhaxk> lol
[15:19] <FloodBot3> Xauhaxk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <Bluey_> bazhang, lol.. no i bookmarked it on my comp, delicioused it and mailed it to my mail id :P thank you so much
[15:21] <stuffe> Hey. I've been encountering a problem with the game Planeshift(http://www.planeshift.it/). When I start the game and expect to see my character, NPC's and such. But it's an empty non-refreshed window, with only the UI working.  They were using an other distro and the packages weren't of the same name. intel-dri, mesa, dri2proto, xf86-video-intel, these wer
[15:21] <stuffe> e the files that I was told to update, but ubuntu seems to have another name for them. Please help me find the packages needed to fix this problem.
[15:21] <FloodBot3> stuffe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <mohanohi> hi.. ubuntu was working fine.. now login screen not appearing.. just showing busy cursor...
[15:23] <mohanohi> i am able to login via terminal..
[15:23] <mohanohi> by pressing ctrl+alt+f2..
[15:23] <mohanohi> system is not hung..
[15:23] <mohanohi> but login screen is not showing up. i am using ubuntu 8.10 64 bit..
[15:23] <GPL> !paste > mohanohi
[15:24] <Kapli> Hi, I'm trying to compile kTorrent in ubuntu, and when compiling it says that I'm missing an optional package called, libtaskmanager, anyone know where to get it? Couldn't find it in the package manager
[15:24] <routinepursuit> So i just installed firefox 3.5 and removed 3.0 using apt-get  no I got nothing... ideas?  Thanks
[15:24] <bazhang> Kapli, any reason not to use the version from repos?
[15:24] <Boohbah> Kapli: why are you trying to compile ktorrent?
[15:24] <mohanohi> GPL: I am not trying to flood.. just want to convey my problem..
[15:24] <bazhang> routinepursuit, installed 3.5 how
[15:24] <Kapli> i want the newest version :P
[15:24] <riz0n> Hello guys!
[15:24] <riz0n> I have a problem :(
[15:24] <mohanohi> pls .. anybody help me out...
[15:25] <routinepursuit> bazhag:  apt-get install
[15:25] <riz0n> I have a Dell laptop that has a Dell BCM4306 wireless chipset.
[15:25] <oldude67> mohanohi, try not hitting the enter key as much
[15:25] <riz0n> Trying to get this thing to work on 9.04!! Oh no!!!
[15:25] <bazhang> routinepursuit, 3.0 should have reinstalled with installation of 3.5
[15:25] <mohanohi> oldude67: no... i am not doing it..
[15:25] <moldy> how do i see which repository a package is from?
[15:25] <Boohbah> Kapli: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev
[15:25] <bazhang> moldy, which package?
[15:26] <riz0n> I followed     * WifiDocsDriverbcm43xxFeisty_No-Fluff to a T and i am not getting anything
[15:26] <mohanohi> oldude67: what to do? how to debug the problem.. pls help :(
[15:26] <oldude67> mohanohi, what was you doing before this happened?
[15:26] <poc> Is anybody know how to develop wap on unbuntu?
[15:26] <moldy> bazhang: thin-client-manager-backend
[15:26] <mohanohi> i was previously working with blender..
[15:26] <Kapli> ah, yes, thanks :D just bumped into it on google too ^^
[15:26] <mohanohi> just safe shutdown... and restarts..
[15:27] <routinepursuit> so I got firefox 3.0 back using apt-get... how do I run 3.5?
[15:27] <oldude67> mohanohi, boot into recovery mode and try the dpkg to see if there is any broken packages you have missed.
[15:27] <bazhang> moldy, in future you can /msg ubottu  info thin-client-manager-backend  (its in component main)
[15:27] <legend2440> routinepursuit: firefox-3.5
[15:28] <mohanohi> oldude67: oh.. ok .. will try now..
[15:28] <bazhang> routinepursuit, it shows as shiretoko in apps menu
[15:28] <moldy> bazhang: ok, thanks -- but is there a more general way to get this information? from an ubuntu system?
[15:28] <testi> I can't find the task manager in ubuntu, where is it?
[15:28] <GPL> testi : ps command is what i use to see current processes.
[15:28] <moldy> bazhang: something like apt-cache <foo> <packagename>?
[15:29] <bazhang> moldy, apt-cache show packagename
[15:29] <routinepursuit> bazhang: so uh thanks, nice...
[15:29] <testi> GPL: I mean a graphical one, where i can i search for processes and then decide what to do with them
[15:29] <GPL> testi : ;) graphical one ,It's system monitor, in System  > Administration >
[15:30] <legend2440> moldy: open synaptic>settings>preferences>columns and fonts check box that says Component it will list which repo each package is in
[15:30] <moldy> bazhang: and then? get it from the "Filename:" entry?
[15:30] <testi> GPL, thanks
[15:30] <mohanohi> oldude67: do you know which file holds the repository server information? i want to remove some of the jaunty repository in it..
[15:30] <caocheng> what are the different between follow command :1)ls -l 2>&1 |  wc 2):exec 3>&1;ls -l 2>&1  >&3 3>&- | wc
[15:30] <GPL> testi : np.
[15:30] <riz0n> Does anyone know how to get the Dell BCM4306 (Rev 3) working with Ubuntu 9.04?
[15:30] <moldy> legend2440: thank you -- is there also a cli way? i am usually working over ssh
[15:30] <bazhang> moldy, in the terminal type apt-cache show vrms (as an example)
[15:30] <oldude67> mohanohi, souce.lst
[15:31] <moldy> bazhang: yes, but where in the output does it show the repository?
[15:31] <grawity> moldy: sudo $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:31] <oldude67> mohanohi, source.lst sorry
[15:31] <grawity> moldy: then sudo apt-get update, to refresh the DB.
[15:31] <bazhang> moldy, section
[15:31] <mohanohi> oldude67: oh.. ok.. thanx..
[15:31] <moldy> bazhang: that says "misc" for thin-client-manager-backend, which is not the information i am loooking for
[15:32] <routinepursuit> another dumb question, where is the icon for ff 3.5?
[15:32] <mohanohi> oldude67: how to edit that file in terminal.. what command?
[15:32] <moldy> grawity: thank you, but that's not what i am looking for :)
[15:32] <moorthyvsm> HI Mohan
[15:32] <grawity> mohanohi: 'nano' is the simplest editor.
[15:32] <bazhang> apt-cache policy then moldy
[15:32] <moorthyvsm> use nano or vi
[15:32] <routinepursuit> vim
[15:32] <mohanohi> grawity: thank you :)
[15:32] <moorthyvsm> nano is awesome
[15:32] <cretsiah> i have crunchbang8.10 (based on ubuntu8.10) and my fstab wont recognise my second drive any1 help?
[15:32] <bazhang> cretsiah, #crunchbang
[15:33] <GPL> routinepursuit: it must be there in quick launch or else, you can type "firefox" in terminal
[15:33] <moorthyvsm> fdisk -l and /etc/fstab
[15:33] <moldy> bazhang: ah, thank you, that does it
[15:33] <legend2440> routinepursuit: /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox-3.5.png
[15:33] <moorthyvsm> can you just show it?
[15:33] <bazhang> !derivatives | cretsiah
[15:33] <routinepursuit> thanks all!
[15:33] <q0s> how do i find out which kernel modules really gets loaded? there are 2 ath9k.ko's in my /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ directory ...
[15:34] <mazda01_> q0s: lsmod
[15:34] <mazda01_> q0s: lsmod | grep ath
[15:34] <q0s> mazda01_, and then? there is just the size ....
[15:34] <mazda01_> q0s: huh? lsmod shows you which module is loaded.
[15:36] <q0s> mazda01_, ok .. the output is: atk9k     310836 0 .... but which of my ath9k's is loaded?
[15:37] <kp> hi I receive the following warning message during system startup, how to fix it ata1:Softreset failed (device not ready),ata2:Softreset failed (device not ready)
[15:37] <caocheng> who knows the different between follow command :1)ls -l 2>&1 |  wc 2):exec 3>&1;ls -l 2>&1  >&3 3>&- | wc
[15:37] <oldude67> q0s, lspci
[15:38] <q0s> oldude67, does this tell me something about loaded modules?
[15:38] <mazda01_> q0s: well, are they both the same size when issuing a ls -l on them? i don't know how to tell which one is loaded to be honest. you could test it out by exiting out of the session, bootup in recovery mode, rename one of them, then try to log in normally. if the ath module gets loaded correctly then you know you renamed the one you can delete. if not, then rename the other one in recovery session and boot again. it's a tiny, file what the
[15:41] <q0s> mazda01_, thanks. i installed a new ath9k with compiling and make install. i was just afraid about messing up with my paketmanager...
[15:42] <mazda01_> does anyone know where the commands are kept (what config file) in jwm for the panel and menu commands?
[15:42] <mazda01_> q0s: if it works, then i would just leave the tiny file alone. it's not like it's taking up tons of space you know. it's up to you if you want to try what i suggested
[15:43] <arie> hi
[15:43] <mazda01_> anyone know how to turn off joins, quits, and general messages for colloquy?
[15:44] <q0s> mazda01_, so ... whats if i go the karmic in a few month and the kernel module which was installed by hand prevents a better one from karmic to be used? ;)
[15:44] <arie> i'm using 8.04 on laptop. the built in speaker works fine, but not headphone jack. how to solve it?
[15:44] <saturnfossil> good night
[15:44] <FreshCure> hey people
[15:44] <saturnfossil> yes
[15:44] <fatbrain> mazda01_: isn't that the osx irc-client?
[15:44] <fatbrain> (i.e. why ask that in #ubuntu?)
[15:45] <FreshCure> what terminal command for moving multiple files to the same destination ?
[15:45] <mazda01_> q0s: why would it prevent a better one from being installed? it's going to upgrade it if theres an upgrade for it, just because you compiled it doesn't mean it's super man
[15:45] <mazda01_> fatbrain: yes, it is
[15:45] <RaceCondition> where should I report that the Ubuntu mirrors starting with ee. are problematic?
[15:45] <Factran> FreshCure: cp *.txt ./
[15:45] <mazda01_> fatbrain: because maybe someone might know that's why
[15:45] <Factran> for moving all txt file to current directory
[15:45] <FreshCure> sweet that simple eh ?
[15:45] <arie> i'm using 8.04 on laptop. the built in speaker works fine, but not headphone jack. how to solve it? T_T
[15:46] <Factran> or man cp for more info
[15:46] <mazda01_> arie: have you gone into gnome alsa mixer or alsa mixer to see if headphone jack is turned up all the way and it's not muted?
[15:46] <saturnfossil> move to current dir , you mean change name?
[15:47] <arie> yup
[15:48] <mazda01_> arie: not sure then, have you looked at any audio or pulseaudio guides?
[15:48] <unop> FreshCure, why would you want to do that? -- that wouldn't work by the way
[15:48] <FreshCure> move multiple files ?
[15:48] <FreshCure> its just for tremfusion
[15:49] <cute_bettong> ok to the guy who was nice enough to help me, im back, if you could please im me i would appriciate it thank you ^_^
[15:49] <unop> FreshCure, move files to the same destination? that's a bit like taking 10 coffee cups off the table only to put them back, pointless
[15:49] <q0s> mazda01_, there must be a logic how modules gets choosen ... my ath9k's are at 2.6.28-14-generic/updates/ath9k.so and the other one in 2.6.28-14-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless/ath9k/ath9k.so. imaging always the first one gets loaded, and the other one is the one installed by my packagemanager, so never the packagemanger one would be choosen. if now my PM upgrades its one, it would never have a chance to be used
[15:50] <cute_bettong> i meant the guy that was helping me with the ubuntu remote desktop viewer
[15:51] <jrib> cute_bettong: detrix (try to remember the nick...)
  your are humorous
[15:51] <mazda01_> q0s: besides what I have already told you, i don't know what to tell you. are you sure one of them isn't a symlink to the other?
[15:51] <cute_bettong> jrib: thanks man
[15:52] <unop> saturnfossil, hmm, yea, sometimes pointing out a folly is just that :)
[15:53] <erUSUL> q0s: one is from linux-backport-modules and the other from the original kernl deb ??
[15:53] <erUSUL> q0s: the more recent will be the one loaded afaik
It,s first time to take in English. Thank you
[15:54] <erUSUL> q0s: 2.6.28-14-generic/updates/ath9k.so i  guess
[15:54] <q0s> erUSUL, one from linux-backports-modules the other one was installed via compat-wireless (make install)
[15:55] <q0s> mazda01_, anyway. thanks for your effords ;)
[15:55] <erUSUL> q0s: i see...
[15:57] <q0s> erUSUL, i know that the compat version is the drivers/net/wireless/ath9k/ath9k.so file ... just want to get sure this one gets loaded ;)
[15:57] <mazda01_> q0s: i tried. i'd be interested to know how the system knows which kernel modules to load also if you do find it out. i am goggling on it now and it's a lot of reading
[15:57] <fatbrain> mazda01_: I guessed that much, try #colloquy, might bet a better response there :)
[15:57] <mazda01_> fatbrain: thank you
[16:00] <mohanohi> hi..
[16:00] <mohanohi> whats the command of dpkg to repair broken packages..
[16:00] <NauTiluS1> sudo apt-get install -f
[16:01] <mohanohi> it does nothing...
[16:01] <mohanohi> i want dpkg command which executes on recovery menu..
[16:02] <arand> mohanohi:
[16:03] <arand> mohanohi: dpkg-reconfigure ?
[16:03] <Alvinware> fuck!
[16:03] <EagleScreen> dpkg --configure -a
[16:03] <mohanohi> arand: no.. it asks for package name..
[16:04] <harda> hi
[16:05] <DoLLin> andyy
[16:06] <DoLLin> jack
[16:08] <mohanohi> Eaglescreen: what was that command.. its like reconfiguring the whole system,,
[16:08] <maxb> I can see my CPU temperature in /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp, but the gnome sensors applet doesn't seem to know about that. Is there anything I can do to make it display there?
[16:08] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: please be more explicity
[16:09] <mohanohi> Eaglescreen: wow man.. this thing is new to me.. its asking keyboard model.. and other stuffs,,
[16:09] <IdleOne> mohanohi, what is it your doing exactly?
[16:10] <mohanohi> i needed to fix the broken package..
[16:10] <IdleOne> which package?
[16:10] <gartral> killing acpi at kernal load is done with noacpi=yes, right/
[16:10] <mohanohi> donno.. system was not showing login screen...
[16:10] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: keyboard model for X server is set by 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[16:11] <mohanohi> so somebody here suggested to do dpkg from recovery..
[16:11] <mohanohi> but there network is not detected.. i mean my ethernet card..
[16:11] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what is your problem, why are you in recovery?
[16:12] <mohanohi> system not showing login screen..
[16:12] <IdleOne> ok let's do it this way. tell us what you did before the system went all screwy?
[16:12] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phight xserver-xorg'
[16:12] <mohanohi> pls just tell me what is command is exactly for dpkg - repair broken package
[16:13] <Jol> I've an Acer Aspire One Netbook and I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 Remix. It is working fine, but the UI is so slow. Anybody knows how to fix it?
[16:13] <mohanohi> my system is unable to locate the network in recovery mode..
[16:14] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: for a broken package you have two alternatives: 1) install its dependences 2) remove the package
[16:14] <bazhang> Jol, how much ram
[16:14] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: are you choosing netroot in recovery menu?
[16:14] <Jol> 2048
[16:14] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its not in here in this menu..
[16:15] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: you dont need internet
[16:15] <Jol> I've found this
[16:15] <Jol> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/349314/
[16:15] <Jol> but I do not know how to apply the patch
[16:15] <Jol> ;(
[16:15] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: but i dont know which package is broken..
[16:16] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: upon choosing dpkg repair the system thing in recovery...
[16:16] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: it shows me to download a 250 mb of packages and some package to remove..
[16:16] <IdleOne> mohanohi, telling us what you tried to install last before your system stopped working the way you expect it to will help us to help you
[16:16] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: if i press enter i dont have network detected..
[16:17] <mohanohi> idleOne: audacity, and some other 2 sound editing apps.. which name i am unable to remember.. :*
[16:17] <zouhair> hi, is there a way to have a list of installed packaged chronologically sorted (last installed first for ex.)?
[16:17] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: do you use wireless or ethernet?
[16:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no..
[16:18] <IdleOne> no to which
[16:18] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: then do u use 3G?
[16:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no..
[16:18] <arand> zouhair: you can always use some grep magic on /var/log/apt/term.log
[16:18] <legend2440> zouhair: i dont think so but if you open synaptic>file>history you can see installs by date
[16:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: normal adsl modem connection..
[16:18] <zouhair> ok thanks
[16:19] <majnoon> is there any gui program to change xorg settings ??
[16:19] <jiohdi> is there a way to password protect individual folders?
[16:19] <arand> legend2440: zouhair: but that will only show installs done _through_ synaptic.
[16:19] <zouhair> hmm :(
[16:19] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: if you have an nvidia video kart you can use nvidia-settings
[16:20] <zouhair> arand: yes definitely, I amost never use synaptic, only aptitude
[16:20] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: go to the recovery mode now
[16:20] <arand> jiohdi: you could set the to only be readable by root, or another user with password protection?
[16:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok...
[16:21] <jiohdi> arand, how?
[16:21] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: drop to a root shell later
[16:21] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i am in ....
[16:22] <zouhair> so I'll still stick to Bash history ;(
[16:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do now sir?
[16:22] <majnoon> intel 855GM series
[16:22] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: dpkg --configure -a
[16:22] <arand> jiohdi: use the chown, and chmod commands.
[16:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[16:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no response..
[16:23] <jiohdi> arand, speak windows or stupid :)
[16:23] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: what you want to edit in xorg?
[16:23] <EagleScreen> ok run 'aptitude'
[16:23] <majnoon> NickDeNeger, from lspci|grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[16:23] <Guest42901> Does anyone know how to install Nepenthes on Ubuntu 9.04? I have installed it through apt-get and configured it, but it can't connect to my sockets as they are already being used
[16:23] <buttons840> Hi, any good tutorials on how permissions and such work in linux?   Specifically I'm looking to understand the output of ls -l.
[16:23] <majnoon> just mostly want to tweek and see if get improvements
[16:24] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. what to do now sir?
[16:24] <arand> zouhair: then something like sudo cat /var/log/apt/term.log | grep "Setting up" will catch everything which passes apt.
[16:24] <NickDeNeger> it is not possible to alter xorg configurations while xorg has already started
[16:24] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'aptitude' -> Ctrl + T to drop menu and select Cancel pending operations
[16:24] <NickDeNeger> you always need to restart xorg
[16:25] <anr78> In newer kernel versions, should Ubuntu be able to mount my HFS+ with write support even if I have not disabled journaling in OS X?
[16:25] <majnoon> THAT not a problem :)
[16:25] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. what to do now sir?
[16:25] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: oh.. sorry about that..
[16:25] <monostone> buttons840, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[16:25] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'aptitude install' and tell me if it does something
[16:25] <buttons840> monostone, looks great thanks
[16:25] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: quit aptitude programm first
[16:26] <majnoon> they changed xorg.conf settings on me :)
[16:26] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. nothing just dropped me into command line..
[16:26] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: but as far as i know there isn't a tool to alter xorg.conf options by gui for a intel gpu
[16:26] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'dpkg-reconfigure -phight xserver-xorg'
[16:27] <majnoon> a "generic" one would do for me
[16:27] <bazhang> EagleScreen, its phigh not phight
[16:27] <Ivoz> Hi there, I'm wanting to resize my windows partition to install ubuntu manually, I don't get the Use As and mount options
[16:28] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: I found this link via google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156243
[16:28] <Ivoz> (during installation), can anyone help me what they are and basic process or point to a good page where they're explained
[16:28] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: but i dont have issues with my graphic driver? is it to repair my driver?
[16:28] <majnoon> NickDeNeger, where they put the settings now ??
[16:28] <NickDeNeger> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:29] <arand> jiohdi: On second though, I think that doing this the way I was thinking will complicate things quite a bit, and it will be rather complicated to browse the directory in question... I'm not sure what you are looking to do though?
[16:29] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: it set the default X server configuration
[16:29] <rohtie> hi, i have partition problems
[16:29] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i think my xserver doesn't have any problem.. its some package giving problem..
[16:30] <arand> rohtie: define problems ;)
[16:30] <majnoon> eg it says Identifier	"Configured Video Device"  <-- where are THOSE settings ??
[16:30]  * buttons840 reads about file permissions and has the immediate urge to change all permissions recursively...
[16:30] <rohtie> I can't resize my windows partition
[16:30] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run it, it is not dangerous
[16:30] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: how to remove problematic packages.. as it says in dpkg repair broken package..?
[16:30] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. as u say sir..
[16:31] <anr78> Is there an unofficial repository where I can get the latest beta drivers from nvidia?
[16:31] <EagleScreen> and how do you know the problem is a broken package? and how a broken pakage kill your X server?
[16:31] <aomakila> a
[16:31] <arand> rohtie: so you are using gparted, and that says what when you try to rezise?
[16:31] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: now it has taken a backup..
[16:32] <EagleScreen> yes, normally
[16:32] <ericG> Ivoz: this video may help, its for ubuntu 8.10 but it will apply to 9.04 as well http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1104
[16:32] <ircfine> why am i being prompted by update-manager? how can i stop update-manager?
[16:32] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do now sir?
[16:32] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: tell us what have you seen to think you have broken packages?
[16:32] <legend2440> anr78: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
[16:33] <majnoon> NickDeNeger, eg it says Identifier	"Configured Video Device"  <-- where are THOSE settings ??
[16:33] <rohtie> arand: In ubuntu live cd, when the partition is unmounted the maximum and minum size is the same. When mounted, the resize/move function is disabled
[16:33] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: hmmm.. that dpkg - Repair broken packages shows me to download a 250 mb file and to remove some package..
[16:33] <ircfine> why am i being prompted by update-manager within a minute? how can i stop update-manager?
[16:33] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: I found this link via google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156243
[16:34] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: and yeah that are settings
[16:34] <anr78> legend2440: thanks, but I'm looking for a repo with them that will let me install using apt-get. used it earlier but don't remember where I found it :)
[16:34] <arand> anr78: I know http://philip.magicalforest.se/ has v.185 at least...
[16:34] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: if you has any broken package, 'aptitude install' would try to install them propertly, or to remove them if not possible, and it does nothing now, true?
[16:34] <Ivoz> ericG: im in ubuntu livecd atm, should I be able to view the video?
[16:34] <NickDeNeger> majnoon: before editing any of the xorg.conf type: man xorg.conf
[16:34] <NickDeNeger> for help
[16:34] <majnoon> ok
[16:34] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: oh.. yeah.. sorry.. i am new to these type of things.. just guessing..
[16:34] <Oli``> I'm trying to force a window to be fullscreen (overrides toolbars, no window frame). I've tried targeting the window with CompizConfig but it never works. Is there something I can prepend to the launch command to make the window fullscreen?
[16:35] <anr78> arand: thanks
[16:35] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: try rebooting and pay atention to any possible error
[16:35] <arand> rohtie: um...is the partition full?
[16:35] <ericG> Ivoz: ah, probably not i think it is a flash video. do you not have the option in the ubuntu installer to automaticaly resize the windows partition and use free space?
[16:35] <rohtie> arand: nope
[16:35] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. should i reboot to normal or that recovery thing?
[16:35] <EagleScreen> try normal now mohanohi
[16:35] <rohtie> arand: when mounted you can see in the bar that it's not fulll
[16:36] <buttons840> if i setup this pipe    ls -lR | grep grwx*  why does the screen spam smybolic link errors, wouldn't grep stop these from showing?
[16:36] <Ivoz> ericG: yes, but there are other options, such as mount: and use as: which I don't understand... don't want to do something wrong to my vista partition
[16:36] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. sir.. :_
[16:36] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. sir.. :)
[16:36] <bullgard> Where can I find a definition for "provides" in dpkg?
[16:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: just the same :(
[16:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: showing busy cursor..
[16:37] <ericG> mount just tells the OS where to 'put' the contents of that partition, think of it kind of like loading a cd. you have your drive always present but it doesn't do anything until you put something in
[16:37] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what is exactly happening?
[16:37] <erUSUL> buttons840: grep process stdout not stderr
[16:37] <ericG> Ivoz: are you wanting to be able to access your windows partitions from ubuntu?
[16:37] <buttons840> i see
[16:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i able to move my mouse.. black screen, busy cursor.. thats it..
[16:37] <arand> rohtie: and you still cant rezise it when unmounted?... Maybe you could try defragmenting it (I don't know, but maybe there are several "holes" that pads the partition out?)
[16:38] <rohtie> arand: how do i defrag it?
[16:38] <Ivoz> ericG: that would be nice if possible. I think the mount options where /dos and /windows if i remember from the installer
[16:38] <legend2440> anr78: here are some  nvidia 190  https://launchpad.net/~thefirstm/+archive/ppa
[16:38] <Ivoz> ericG: that video shows the guided way, i was looking to do it manually :)
[16:38] <ericG> ivoz yes that is correct. in the partitioner does it say your windows partition is NTFS? if so, you set 'use as' to NTFS and mount to /windows
[16:39] <arand> rohtie: from within windows, most simply.
[16:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what do do :(
[16:39] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: how are you in this state? did you stopped some update process?
[16:39] <rohtie> arand: I can't access windows, because theres something wrong with it
[16:39] <Ivoz> rohtie, defraggler is a good defragger i used for windows, it lets you consolidate free space as well
[16:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: yeah.. it was installing audacity.. and i cancelled it..
[16:40] <anr78> legend2440: that was the one I had earlier. thanks!
[16:40] <arand> rohtie: If you look at the information for the partion in gparted, are there any warning or such?
[16:40] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i mean i was installing audacity,...
[16:40] <rohtie> only when its unmounted
[16:40] <Ivoz> ericG: so selecting ntsf and /windows will leave vista as it is and let me boot into either?
[16:40] <shah16> hi, anyone having luck with voice chat with windows gtalk users..
[16:40] <Guest5012>  shah16
[16:40] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: why did you cancel? did you see any rare?
[16:40] <Guest5012>  EagleScreen
[16:40] <arand> rohtie: what does it say?
[16:40] <byyou> hyyyyyyyyyyy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[16:40] <EagleScreen> hi Guest5012!!
[16:40] <Guest5012>  EagleScreen
[16:40] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no.. just it was taking too long and somany packages..
[16:41] <erUSUL> !intel
[16:41] <Guest5012>  ubottu
[16:41] <rohtie> arand: unable to read contents of this filesystem! Because of this some operations may be unavailable.
[16:41] <Guest5012>  rohtie
[16:41] <shah16> hi, anyone having luck with voice chat with windows gtalk users..
[16:41] <Guest5012>  shah16
[16:41] <ericG> ivoz selecting ntsf and /windows _on your windows partition_ will let you access it from ubuntu. you need to create a new partition for ubuntu and set its 'use as' to ext3 or ext4, and mount to '/'
[16:41] <shah16> i think Guest5012 is a bot
[16:41] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: press Ctrl + Alt + F1 to go to tty console
[16:42] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[16:42] <rohtie> guest5012
[16:42] <Ivoz> ericG, do i need like a swapfile sub partition or something?
[16:42] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i am in..
[16:42] <ericG> Ivoz: that too.
[16:42] <EagleScreen> login mohanohi
[16:42] <buttons840> in the ls -l patern rwx, what does rwt mean?   what is the t?
[16:42] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: yeah.. i have..
[16:42] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[16:43] <Ivoz> ericG: So create another primary partition, then two sub partitions, one for swapfile one for ubuntu?
[16:43] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[16:43] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: stopped..
[16:43] <arand> rohtie: ah, I normally get that when the system is hibernated, and I've booted into ubuntu without waking it up, but in your case it may be the indication of the win boot problem I guess...
[16:43] <ericG> Ivoz: even if you don't setup the windows partition to be visible in ubuntu an entry will still be created so you can select either
[16:43] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what happens if you run 'startx' ?
[16:43] <rohtie> arand: Do you have any idea how to fix it?
[16:43] <ericG> ivoz yes
[16:44] <Ivoz> ericG: I'm not sure what you mean. How do i setup or not setup windows to be visible to ubuntu?
[16:44] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: it opened some sort of grid type screen.. and login sound..
[16:44] <theatro> buttons840, it is a sticky bit
[16:44] <buttons840> theatro, what does that mean?
[16:44] <ericG> ivoz you are doing the partitioning. ubuntu will install a bootloader (grub) which will be used to select which OS you want to boot
[16:44] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu, the program border is missing. why could this be?
[16:44] <theatro> eh, well just google it
[16:44] <Ivoz> I think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition needs to be updated to reflect what the software shows
[16:45] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: did you hear login sound but dont see the desktop?
[16:45] <arand> rohtie: my guess would be using windows CDs receovery tools and similar... But I don't have much experience in that particualarly, sorry.
[16:45] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: no.. :(
[16:45] <anr78> If I disable journaling on my os x drive, will Ubuntu automagically have write support when I mount from nautilus?
[16:45] <ericG> ivoz grub is used to load either ubuntu or windows, so it doesn't matter if ubuntu can 'see' your windows partition
[16:45] <rohtie> arand: Myabe i should just delete that partition
[16:45] <anr78> !hfs
[16:45] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: press Alt + F7 and tell me what you see
[16:45] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: here in console the last line says Compatible NVIDIA X drive rnot found..
[16:46] <arand> rohtie: if you are able to extract all valuable date off it, that and a reinstall would be an option, yes.
[16:46] <helpme> hi can anyone till me if there is a program to voice activate programs  by command
[16:46] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: in Alt + F7 just a gray blank screen..
[16:46] <Ivoz> ericG: It would be nice for ubuntu to be able to see the windows partition - is there some way of doing the partition that will not let it or something?
[16:46] <buttons840> theatro, it says even though someone has write, they can't rename or delete the file if sticky bit is set?
[16:46] <rohtie> arand: i can't reinstall because windows was preinstalled
[16:46] <vinaygeorgian_> hi
[16:47] <motomast3r> hi guys :)
[16:47] <arand> rohtie: ah, problem :(
[16:47] <rohtie> arand: i could maybe borrow a cd or somethin
[16:47] <motomast3r> anyone know how to install gtk 2.x themes ?
[16:47] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: hey.. what to do now?
[16:47] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: go to tty again (Ctrl Alt F2) to go to tty 2
[16:47] <ericG> ivoz then just set the use as options and mount point for the windows partition like we talked about before, create a new partition for ubuntu and set it to use as ext3 or ext4, and mount to /, and create one more for swap, set its 'use as' to swap and then click next :)
[16:48] <bazhang> motomast3r, drag the tar.gz to the theme manager usually does it
[16:48] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok
[16:48] <vinaygeorgian_> hi
[16:48] <motomast3r> barzhang realy :O
[16:48] <rohtie> arand: btw do you kn ow if windows supports ext?
[16:48] <arand> rohtie: a possibility yes, since you do have the license for it. By the way, how does windows fail to start?
[16:48] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: here in tty1 showing Failed to initilize GLX extension
[16:48] <bazhang> motomast3r, yes, from gnome-look.org ?
[16:48] <Ivoz> ericG: So at that point I would have 3 (in my case 4 as there is an extra HP partition) primary partitions?
[16:48] <ericG> you will be able to see your windows partition from ubuntu and grub will allow you to boot either windows or linux Ivoz
[16:48] <ericG> yea
[16:48] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: login and run '/sbin/ifconfig' and see if you have ip address in your net connection
[16:48] <motomast3r> thanks bashang for patience :)
[16:49] <MOUD> Hey all
[16:49] <Ivoz> ericG: how big should the swap partition be?
[16:49] <ericG> ivoz, how much ram do you have?
[16:49] <rohtie> arand: before coming to the login screen, it says configuring updates and then it reboots
[16:49] <Ivoz> ericG: I was planning to give ubuntu roughly 38gb free space
[16:49] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: yeah,, i have connection,,
[16:49] <motomast3r> im forgot
[16:49] <Ivoz> ericG: i have 3gb ram
[16:49] <arand> rohtie: no, not as the main filesystem at least, it is possible with unofficial drivers to get access to the partition to read/write to it, but you'll never be able to install windows onto ext I don't think...
[16:49] <motomast3r> how to change a 5.1 sound volume
[16:49] <motomast3r> lika a bass midlle
[16:50] <bazhang> motomast3r, that should do it most cases, unless they have special instructions on the web page
[16:50] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: run 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-stantard xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core'
[16:50] <ericG> ivoz different people say different things...some say 1gb otheres say twice ram..i just set mine equal to ram but that could be overkill
[16:50] <MOUD> Is anyone using amsn? In here it keeps on the "Logging in" and doesn't login
[16:50] <rohtie> arand: maybe in 200years ^^
[16:50] <motomast3r> bazhang can you give to me link PLZ
[16:50] <motomast3r> ?
[16:51] <bazhang> gnome-look.org motomast3r check most downloaded and most popular for some good ones
[16:51] <arand> rohtie: this might be your problem?: http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/31682422/configuring-updates-3-of.aspx
[16:51] <Ivoz> ericG: anywhere i can go to find out about it? It doesn't seem to be mentioned much in ubuntu installation instructions, i would like to make my own decision unless there is a tonne of reading to do
[16:51] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. did it..
[16:51] <MOUD> Ivoz: I have 3GB for swap but my RAM is 4GB
[16:52] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its saying it need about 100 mb to get download.. 1 to remove
[16:52] <MOUD> !swap
[16:52] <Pupeno> Would I have too many problems for using a NTFS partiton as /home
[16:52] <motomast3r> bazhang you not understand me :((((((
[16:52] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: accept, but what to be removed?
[16:52] <bazhang> motomast3r, for themes?
[16:52] <GPL> bazhang : ya checked, if VX-1000 is under supported list or not. hmm, i couldnt get it to work :( i tried everything i could.
[16:52] <rohtie> arand: yep, thats the exact problem
[16:52] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: scrollkeeper{a}
[16:53] <ericG> ivoz there is some discussion here, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2910
[16:53] <EagleScreen> accept mohanohi
[16:53]  * arand thinks the !swap entry should include a mention about hibernation as welll
[16:53] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok sir..
[16:53] <motomast3r> bazhang PM
[16:53] <rohtie> arand: but i cant use safe mode, and i dont have the cd >_> what to do?
[16:53] <Ivoz> from the faq it seems i should have 3gb or more to be able to hibernate?
[16:53] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: wow man.. it showing it takes 22 mins to download..
[16:53] <Luisito> es
[16:53] <bazhang> motomast3r, keep in channel please, tell the channel with as many details as possible what the issue what you tried, paste.ubuntu.com with error messages etc
[16:54] <Luisito> #ubunu- es
[16:54] <Luisito> #ubunu-es
[16:54] <MOUD> arand: do you use hibernate? I think that the computer gets somewhat slow after the hibernate
[16:54] <Luisito> #ubuntu-es
[16:54] <ericG> more here ivoz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990458
[16:55] <motomast3r> bazhang no errors im almost complete soun changing tutorial
[16:55] <motomast3r> sound*
[16:55] <motomast3r> but im not understand how to add sound change bars
[16:55] <motomast3r> :(
[16:55] <bazhang> motomast3r, address the channel with your exact issue; 'sound issues' is not clear at all
[16:55] <arand> rohtie: look around and se if there are other options to fix it, or try to get hold of a windows cd for repairing.  Maybe i can resize it after this is fixed
[16:56] <Ivoz> will the computer basically not be able to hibernate if the swap file isn't as big as your ram?
[16:56] <arand> rohtie: also, at this point, ##windows might be a better channel for help on the issue.
[16:56] <motomast3r> w8 i'm show
[16:57] <rohtie> arand: okay i ddint know there was a channel like that
[16:57] <ericG> thats what others have said ivoz, personally I do not know as I always suspend instead of hibernate
[16:57] <arand> rohtie: My guess would be that the partition is locked beacause of the update-loop yes.
[16:57] <rohtie> arand: Thanks, and cya :)
[16:57] <ericG> but my swap is also = to my ram so it in theory should work anyway
[16:58] <arand> rohtie: no problem, glad to help.
[16:59] <motomast3r> im not understand a last point
[16:59] <motomast3r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525
[17:00] <Ivoz> ericG: do you think an exactly 3072gb partition will be equal to ram or should i make it a bit bigger?
[17:00] <motomast3r> anyone hear me :(
[17:00] <arand> MOUD: in theory at least, hibernation should not impact performance, anything else I would presume is down to bugs...
[17:01] <ericG> ivoz youd probably be fine with 3072gb.
[17:01] <MOUD> arand: it used to get slower when I used ubunto 8.04 so I never used it again.
[17:02] <Alvinware> wat? ubuntu will get slower, and slower, and no defragment tool? moud?
[17:03] <arand> Alvinware: hibernation was our topic
[17:03] <DaZ> theoretycally ext4 doesn't need defragmentation
[17:03] <Alvinware> oh, ok, arand.
[17:03] <MOUD> Alvinware: I was talking about hibernation
[17:03] <Alvinware> ok 2 moud.
[17:03] <ryudo> hi
[17:03] <ryudo> anyone here
[17:03] <ryudo> i have a question
[17:04] <DaZ> good to know :f
[17:04] <ubuntistas> guys help
[17:04] <MOUD> arand: According to what I saw on some linux forums, if you are going to use hibernation then you need to have at least a swap size bigger or equal to your RAM size
[17:04] <ubuntistas> guys help
[17:04] <bazhang> ubuntistas, ask a question
[17:04] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: just ask! its support
[17:05] <ubuntistas> how can i dual boot
[17:05] <ubuntistas> iam in ubuntu now
[17:05] <bazhang> !dualboot > ubuntistas
[17:05] <ubuntistas> and i want to reinstall windows xp any clue?
[17:05] <bazhang> ubuntistas, do it and restore grub
[17:05] <Alvinware> arand, ubuntu orphan packages detector detects a lots of orphan package, but not all should be removed, cause actually it's not orphan, the detector go wrong, right? does the command too?
[17:05] <arand> MOUD: yes, since ram is dumped to swapspace, and the recovered when you unfreeze.
[17:05] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub ubuntistas
[17:06] <FloridaGuy> whats the best package for vm to install xp in ubuntu
[17:06] <arand> Alvinware: I have no idea, sorry.
[17:06] <MOUD> arand: exactly, it's like on windows
[17:06] <bazhang> FloridaGuy, no best, virtualbox-ose is in repos
[17:06] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: I've found http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning its pretty informative
[17:06] <ubuntistas> bazhang u mean after installation do i have to restore grub?
[17:06] <FloridaGuy> ok
[17:06] <bazhang> ubuntistas, yes, read the link
[17:06] <ubuntistas> thx ivoz
[17:06] <Alvinware> moud, just don't use hibernation, why hibernate? is it good?
[17:07] <arand> ubuntistas: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[17:08] <Ivoz> does ubuntu make a swap partition automatically when you install it (i am dual booting and partitioning), or should i do it myself and do i have to tell it where/what the swap partition is somewhere in install or after?
[17:08] <Alvinware> yes.
[17:08] <musikgoat> Ivoz: it does
[17:08] <bazhang> Ivoz, the guided installer will do it
[17:08] <Alvinware> u could define it too.
[17:09] <Ivoz> I was planning to use the manual installer so i could define what size to make the ubuntu partition
[17:09] <ubuntistas> guys u misunderstood i am in ubuntu and i want install windows xp
[17:09] <marcelo_> hi, I have some processes running on the background, how do I put one of then in the foreground(since fg puts only the last one in the foreground)?
[17:09] <arand> Ivoz: if you use automatic partitioning the swap is automatically created, if you use manual you will have to create it yourself.
[17:09] <bazhang> ubuntistas, yes, do so then restore grub (read the link on how to do so)
[17:09] <chain> hi
[17:10] <arand> ubuntistas: the link I gave you should tell you how to do that.
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> sudo grub
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> find /boot/grub/stage1
[17:10] <MOUD> Alvinware: I don't like to use hibernation but some people do. I'm not sure if there is any good advantage of hibernating
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> root (hdx,x)
[17:10] <Thor_allmighty> who is the Supereme Ruler in here?
[17:10] <NauTiluS1> setup hdX
[17:10] <chain> มีคัยคนไทยมั่ง
[17:10] <Alvinware> moud, save energy.
[17:10] <ubuntistas> ok arand
[17:11] <arand> Thor_allmighty: if you want ops, look in #ubuntu-ops.
[17:12] <ubuntistas> arand too complicated for me
[17:12] <NauTiluS1> :O
[17:12] <NauTiluS1> is easy :S
[17:12] <Alvinware> +
[17:12] <Alvinware> -
[17:13] <grawity> Alvinware: ±
[17:13] <arand> ubuntistas: dual-booting is a bit complicated, inevitably... So you have installed ubuntu and nothing else currently...
[17:13] <ubuntistas> yup
[17:14] <IdleOne> ubuntistas, read through that link once or twice and then give it a go. the worst that can happen is you will have to re-install ubuntu and the best that will happen is you will succeed and learn something new today and feel really good about yourself
[17:15] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:15] <ubuntistas> i don't want experiments i want real solutions
[17:15] <bazhang> ubuntistas, then follow the links given you.
[17:15] <IdleOne> ubntithat is a real solution but it requires that you do a little work
[17:16] <bazhang> ubuntistas, it is well documented and done by many users.
[17:16] <Ivoz> ubuntistas, people probably aren't willing to hold your hand through it...
[17:16] <GreyGhost> ubuntistas, if u dnt want to experiment .. dnt use linux .. as a matter of fact dnt use computers ..
[17:16] <IdleOne> linux is a continuous learning experience
[17:17] <GreyGhost> yep .. wt IdleOne ..
[17:17] <NauTiluS1> ;)
[17:17] <Ivoz> does a swap area parition need to be primary if the ubuntu partition is primary or can it be logical?
[17:17] <banjoz> Hello , what is the best fonts for ubuntu , the default dont look so good
[17:17] <bazhang> !fonts | banjoz
[17:17] <NauTiluS1> logical is good ;)
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: wow... downloaded..
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its installing..
[17:18] <Ivoz> NauTiluS1: so ubuntu won't mind the swap area being logical next to it?
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: finished...
[17:18] <arand> ubuntistas: if you are not comfortable with the guides out there then I don't think you will be able to get a dual-boot, since that is the normal solution.
[17:18] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do now.. should i restart the system?
[17:18] <NauTiluS1> yes ;)
[17:19] <IdleOne> ubuntistas, an hour ago mohanohi here was ready to slam his computer accross a wall, now look at him. he read a bit followed some instructions and is smilling
[17:19] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: go to tty1 (Alt F1) -> Ctrl + C to kill X server and run 'startx' again
[17:19] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: oh.. now i restarted..
[17:19] <zhshs> hi
[17:19] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: the same thing..
[17:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: :(
[17:20] <Ivoz> i want the 'mount point' to be /boot for my ubuntu installation partition?
[17:20] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: i need you need to install the nvidia restricted driver
[17:20] <Ivoz> or perahaps '/'?
[17:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok..
[17:20] <arand> Ivoz: no, just /
[17:20] <grawity> Ivoz: /
[17:20] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:20] <IdleOne> well he was smilling hehe
[17:20] <cdavis> I switched to fluxbox, anyone know how to make fluxbox automount a usb drive? gnome-volume-manager isn't on my system and doesn't seem like I should have to install it since mounting is automatic in gnome
[17:20] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: what ubuntu release do u have?
[17:20] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: whats the command to do from tty?
[17:21] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: 8.10
[17:21] <arand> Ivoz: /boot is if you want a separate partition just for the bootloader (grub).
[17:21] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: 64 bit..
[17:21] <NauTiluS1> ;)
[17:21] <NauTiluS1> primary particion
[17:22] <Ivoz> arand: is that a good idea for dual boot?
[17:22] <Ivoz> I wish this partition editor would do things in proper 1024 bytes
[17:22] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: what to do?
[17:23] <NauTiluS1> separate partition for the sector and whether pot is a good option
[17:23] <NauTiluS1> make it a primary partition that is also where they will be hosting the system partition, in your case /
[17:24] <arand> Ivoz: it could be... it is not normally used, and I have never had the need to use it, I would guess it's a good idea if you have a lot of linux os-es you multi-boot and reinstall...
[17:24] <NauTiluS1> courtesy of google translator: P
[17:24] <NauTiluS1>  my English is not very good even
[17:24] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i am waiting sir ...
[17:25] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: install packages nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules
[17:25] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok :)
[17:25] <Galik> Hi, where can I download individual debs for Ubuntu 9?
[17:26] <ikonia> Galik: use the package manager, the ubuntu debs are the in the repos
[17:26] <ubuntistas> with what software can i create Create an NTFS partition for windows ?
[17:26] <Galik> ikonia: I'm using Fedora :) I just want to steal a couple of your debs hehe
[17:26] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: it showed me to select exact ver for nvidia-glx.. i selected 180..
[17:26] <Ivoz> so my Vista ntfs partition should have a mount point of /windows?
[17:26] <ikonia> Galik: then pull them out of the repos
[17:26] <jrib> Galik: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:27] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: and shown it was already installed..
[17:27] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: the ubuntu live CD can do it
[17:27] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: now installing restricted modules.
[17:27] <EagleScreen> then set driver nvidia in xorg.conf
[17:27] <Ivoz> ubtuntistas: system > administration > partition editor
[17:27] <Galik> jrib: thnx a bunch :)
[17:27] <ubuntistas> ivoz how?
[17:27] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: wow.. how?
[17:28] <ericG> yes ivoz
[17:28] <bcdn> can some one help me with my dual screen laptop? I have seen a few how-to's for my specific model but they all relate to ubutnu 6.06 and I have 9.04. I have a dell D600 with and ATI 9000 mobility
[17:28] <arand> Ivoz: Hmm, I don't think you should touch the ntfs partition in the installer, other than to rezise it to make room.
[17:28] <ericG> ubuntistas: use gparted
[17:28] <ubuntistas> i upgraded ivoz and the live cd has the previous version is that a problem?
[17:28] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: open it in text editor: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:29] <ericG> arand you can set the ntfs partition to use as ntfs and mount /windows and it will automatically mount in ubuntu. it will be fine as long as the format box isnt checked, its how I have mine setup
[17:29] <shamm> brb
[17:29] <Ivoz> arand: I think ericG said said I should use /windows... arg
[17:29] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: its installing linux-image 2.6.27-14 generic file..
[17:29] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: look for Section Device      Driver "nv" and replace by "nvidia"
[17:29] <arand> ericG: Ivoz: Ok, it's just that I never tried that...
[17:29] <Ivoz> ubuntistas: you can also just download gparted if you don't need ur disk to be offline
[17:30] <arand> ubuntistas: what version of gparted you use should not be a problem in this case no.
[17:31] <bcdn> when I try to use System>Prefs>display to activate my second display in anything other than mirror my screens both go nuts and make it impossibe to do any thing. Can some one help me?
[17:31] <eladh7> hello world!
[17:31] <FloridaGuy> im just installed virtualbox ose...got everything setup for my vm size...put the windows xp cd in...got to where windows cd is detecting the unpartitioned space with is my 6 gb of vm space..do i format that just as if i was installing windows by it sel..?
[17:32] <jrib> FloridaGuy: yeah
[17:32]  * arand is afk.
[17:32] <jrib> !away > arand
[17:32] <ericG> ivoz, i should clarify that the /windows and ntfs setup works for me with XP, I have not tried it with vista but it should work the same.
[17:32] <FloridaGuy> jrib, of thanks..what would be better nt or fat32
[17:32] <ubuntistas> i upgraded arand and the live cd has the previous version is that a problem?
[17:32] <ubuntistas> i just installed gparted
[17:33] <jrib> FloridaGuy: ntfs is probably better for windows
[17:33] <ericG> ubuntistas: it doesn't matter which version of the livecd you use as you will only be using it to run gparted on on unmounted disk
[17:33] <Lunar_Lamp> I have a filetype that I've chosen to open with a specific application.  How do I remove this association?
[17:33] <FloridaGuy> jrib, ok...was just woundering sence its vm
[17:34] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: the file doesn't contain any nv..
[17:34] <ubuntistas> ericg how can i open gparted i just installed it
[17:34] <grawity> FloridaGuy, jrib: If a filesystem is shared between Windows and Linux, ntfs is probably the best choice.
[17:34] <ericG> ubuntistas: hit alt+F2 and type gparted should work.
[17:35] <ubuntistas> ok
[17:35] <FloridaGuy> grawity, ok thanks
[17:35] <ubuntistas> with what software can i create Create an NTFS partition for windows ?
[17:35] <ubuntistas> i mean how with gparted?
[17:35] <Janos> hello, I'm pretty new (to Ubuntu and IRC both) and I have what is likely a stupid question
[17:36] <mook1> howdy guys i got a few questons about ubuntu mabe you guys can help
[17:36] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: are u there?
[17:36] <mook1> do i gotta have windows installed to use wine ?
[17:36] <Ivoz> ok... wish me luck
[17:36] <theatro> mook1, no
[17:36] <GPL> mook1: Nope.
[17:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: should i reinstall ubuntu? i think this is not solvable problem :(
[17:37] <wiehan> How do I stream from one vlc to another over my netwrok
[17:37] <geirha> Janos: Don't worry about that, just ask :)
[17:37] <EagleScreen> mohanohi: reinstall if it is the easier way for you
[17:37] <ubuntistas> how can i create Create an NTFS partition for windows ?
[17:37] <mook1> cool i have xp on cd im just trying to figure out what video card  my gf has in her pc im lazy and dont wanna crack the case is thare a way in ubuntu ?
[17:37] <ericG> ivoz, good luck. it shouldnt make any changes until you get to the summary screen and press install
[17:37] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: ok.. i think i don't have any chance left :(
[17:38] <Janos> okay :D from time to time while exploring I'll screw something up (at the moment its wireless drivers) - is there a simple way to 'fix' an ubuntu install in place (e.g. re obtain the default shipped drivers) without reinstalling clean?
[17:38] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: i love jaunty to install...  but it hangs my system..
[17:38] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:38] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: don't know why... :(
[17:38] <Ivoz> Thakns heaps for all ur help ericG, MOUD, arand!
[17:38] <motomast3r> im downloaded tar.gz setup how to install this ?
[17:38] <theatro> mook1, try lspci | grep VGA
[17:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: anyhow i will stick to 8.10
[17:39] <mohanohi> EagleScreen: thanx for ur time with me..
[17:39] <mook1> yout talking to a blithering idiot lol im new to ubuntu
[17:39] <motomast3r> im remember a make kommand
[17:39] <theatro> mook1, open a terminal and run the command
[17:40] <mook1> k
[17:40] <motomast3r> what command ?
[17:40] <Slart> motomast3r: it might be different depending on who created the tar.gz
[17:40] <Xerran1> Can anyone please tell me why jaunty x64 becomes unresponsive?
[17:40] <Slart> motomast3r: some packed files just contain a binary file.. just as in windows. You need to read the instructions from whoever created that file
[17:40] <geirha> Janos: It's a bit complicated. It depends on what you've done really, but in most cases a reinstall will be unneccesary.
[17:40] <Slart> Xerran1: you need to provide some more details..
[17:41] <FloridaGuy> how well is windows xp going to run on a 1ghz AMD Duron 512 mb ram with nvidia GF6 with 256 vid ram..in VM
[17:41] <eladh7> hello, I need help
[17:41] <motomast3r> no instructions
[17:41] <Ivoz> eladh7, just ask :)
[17:41] <Slart> Xerran1: does it happen when you do something special? for how long is it responsive? anything in the logs? and so on
[17:41] <WhoNeedszzz> Hello all
[17:41] <mook1> shold i post all the crap that came up  ? is that cool ?
[17:41] <geirha> Janos: Did you follow a guide?
[17:41] <Slart> motomast3r: then unpack the file (just double click on it in gnome) and see if there are instructions in there.. usually in a README or INSTALL file
[17:41] <Janos> geirha: what I need to do specifically is reinstall the b43 wireless drivers, as my wireless card is now coming up as 'unasigned'
[17:41] <bcdn> do i need the ATI drivers to do dual screen on my 9000m or do the FOSS drivers work?
[17:41] <WhoNeedszzz> Why is the repo version of firefox 3.5 called by its codename (Shiretoko)?
[17:41] <Ivoz> mook1 - goto pastebin.com, paste it in there, then paste the url to your paste
[17:42] <Slart> motomast3r: where did you download this file from?
[17:42] <Xerran1> Slart: every so often the menus get corrupted and I can't not click on anything
[17:42] <wiehan> How do I stream over network with VLC - I have a party in 3 minutes and need a solution, PM me please
[17:42] <Slart> Xerran1: does ctrl+alt+f1 work? that should get you a tty (a terminal window)
[17:42] <Xerran1> Slart: I could be just browsing the file system or the web when it happens
[17:42] <eladh7> i have problem with flash videos. when i watch on youtube the video run slowly, how can i fix this problem?
[17:42] <mook1> im just trying to figure out witch card she has because i wanna run eq on linux under wine because i know  linux does not have limitations like windows
[17:43] <Slart> Xerran1: when this happens you could check in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log for anything that looks suspicius
[17:43] <geirha> Janos: What have you tried so far? Did you try ndiswrapper perhaps?
[17:43] <Ivoz> wiehan - would http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch02.html help perhaps
[17:43] <Ivoz> mook1 - do you have the paste?
[17:44] <saniflex> on stoll
[17:44] <motomast3r> Slart not working :(
[17:44] <eladh7> i install flash adobe
[17:44] <mook1> the wierd thing this is a dell  thare site says its a nvidia 6800 series but... i cant run the restricted driver thare nothing in the list sadly
[17:44] <Xerran1> Slart: ctrl, alt f1 works
[17:44] <Ivoz> eladh7 - do you know what your connection speed is? is it fast enough?
[17:44] <Janos> geirha> I used 43-fcutter to get the firmware (its a broadcom driver) and it was working with the out of the box ubuntu drivers; then I was walking through the instal for the newest driver, and now it doesn't :-(
[17:44] <mook1> i will in a sec let me  log into that site
[17:44] <Ivoz> mook1, it doesn't need a login
[17:44] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:45] <buttons840> can anyone suggest a good source to learn how to setup a shared folder from one ubuntu linux to another?   i've found lots of talk on windows shared drives, but ii'm not concerned with windows
[17:45] <mook1> ok give me a sec to get this copied and what not
[17:46] <motomast3r> any1 can help me >>>>>>>>ON PM<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[17:46] <Slart> Xerran1: ok.. so your system still works.. it might be Xorg that has died.. or something with the graphics drivers
[17:46] <Ivoz> buttons840: have you considered setting up a seperate partition that each installation can access?
[17:46] <geirha> Janos: I have no experience with broadcom myself, but from what I can read from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx , I'd try reconfiguring the b43-fwcutter package.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure b43-fwcutter
[17:46] <buttons840> Ivoz, no, the folder i want to access is on another computer
[17:47] <Janos> geirha> Thanks - I'll give that command a try!
[17:47] <geirha> Janos: Or, maybe reinstall it with: sudo aptitude reinstall b43-fwcutter
[17:47] <Janos> obliged
[17:48] <mook1> http://pastebin.com/d74f8dc93
[17:48] <LMJ> hi
[17:48] <mook1> i guese thats what you want no ?
[17:48] <Pafuin> hello, I need some help with aircrack
[17:48] <Pafuin> can anyone help me ?
[17:48] <IdleOne> When running tar xvfj pandodl-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2 I get bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Can someone gimme a hand here please
[17:48] <shamm> lspci | grep vga
[17:48] <shamm> use | pipe
[17:48] <Janos> g> you wouldn't know what the package with the out of the box ubuntu wireless drivers is would you?
[17:48] <Pafuin> I am using Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 00:28:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:49] <shamm> mook1:  lspci | grep vga
[17:49] <ctmjr> mook1: the command is lspci | grep VGA use the pipe as suggested
[17:50] <fik> hi hello, i just bought myself a new packerd bell easynote LJ65 and i cant seem to get my touchpad going. i couldn't find the correct driver
[17:50] <IdleOne> !touchpad
[17:50] <shamm> the "|" can be found right above "enter" button
[17:50] <IdleOne> shift+\ gives you |
[17:50] <Slart> !who
[17:51] <Slart> and I think keyboards are different in different places around the world..
[17:51] <zvacet> Slart: alt gr + w
[17:51] <riz0n> For some reason, when i open programs on ubuntu using Nvidia restricted driver, program borders are missing. why could this be?
[17:52] <Slart> zvacet: huh?
[17:52] <earthen> anyone know how i can direct ubuntu to get updates from a usb stick
[17:52] <Slart> riz0n: it's like that for all windows?
[17:52] <zvacet> Slart : do you want to type |
[17:52] <riz0n> Slart: yes
[17:52] <riz0n> Slart: if i open terminal, its just a white box, no cursor
[17:53] <Slart> zvacet: nope.. and on my keyboard its Altgr+<    =)
[17:53] <Slart> riz0n: sounds like the decorator has died.. hang on.. let me check something real quick
[17:53] <Pafuin> I need some help
[17:53] <zvacet> Slart : sorry then
[17:53] <fik> IdleOne: i don't understand
[17:54] <geirha> Janos: No, but most likely it's shipped with the kernel package
[17:54] <Pafuin> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 00:28:35 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:54] <Pafuin> can anyone help me?
[17:54] <IdleOne> fik, what don't you understand?
[17:54] <Janos> !geirha ah that makes sense
[17:54] <Slart> zvacet: no worries =)
[17:54] <wahyu> met malem
[17:54] <IdleOne> !ask | Pafuin
[17:55] <heavenquake> if Apache segfaults on service start, both the normal apache package from the ubuntu repos and the xampp binary downloaded from their website, and it didn't do that the last time Ubunt was installed on the machine, then what can the problem be?
[17:55] <geirha> Janos: BTW, make sure my full nick is the first part of your message if you want to adress me. My irc-client will highlight the message then, so I can easily read it through all the noise
[17:55] <Pafuin> airmon-ng start wlan0
[17:55] <Pafuin> Interface	Chipset		Driver
[17:55] <Pafuin> wlan0			ath9k - [phy0]/usr/local/sbin/airmon-ng: 856: cannot create /sys/class/ieee80211/phy0/add_iface: Directory nonexistent
[17:55] <Pafuin> mon0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[17:55] <Pafuin> 				(monitor mode enabled on mon0)
[17:55] <FloodBot3> Pafuin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <fik> IdleOne, i cant get my touchpad driver to work, i am not even sure if it is a synaptics touchpad, and i don't find drivers in google
[17:55] <Slart> riz0n: try running this in a terminal "gtk-window-decorator --replace"
[17:55] <shamm> Pafuin: http://www.wikihow.com/Ask-a-Question-Intelligently
[17:55] <Pafuin> I get this error
[17:56] <geirha> Janos: Was it a kernel update that made it stop working?
[17:56] <spydon> how can I scroll in TTY1?
[17:56] <Slart> spydon: normally you cant
[17:56] <dtownhero> Hello, I was editing a sound file within my desktop and now I cannot boot. I'm using live CD, is there anyway I can edit that file to reverse the changes without having to completely reinstall?
[17:56] <ivantis> Would this be the right place to ask questions about mysql problems on ubuntu server?
[17:57] <shamm> spydon: <command> | less
[17:57] <ikonia> ivantis: what's up ?
[17:57] <shamm> spydon: i.e. cat filename | less
[17:57] <IdleOne> When running tar xvfj pandodl-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2 I get bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. Can someone gimme a hand here please
[17:57] <Janos> geirha > no it was me replacing the wl.ko file in libs/modules/blah/volatile with a newly compiled version from broadcom. when it didn't work I repalced the original file, but still doesn;t work (thank goodness for wired access)
[17:57] <Slart> ivantis: you can give it a try.. you might get better answeres in a mysql specific channel but you can always try here first if you want
[17:57] <ivantis> ikonia, mysql eats ALL of my VPS RAM. It says fork: cannot allocate memory even in /etc/init.d/mysql
[17:57] <ikonia> IdleOne: run file against it
[17:57] <IdleOne> fik,  I believe that link should be able to help you but I am not sure
[17:57] <Pafuin> IdleOne:  I am trying to start airmon-ng on ubuntu and I get an error, I think is beaucase of my wireless driver... anyone can help me?
[17:57] <spydon> shamm, but I have allready run the command, and I need to see what it printed
[17:57] <grawity> IdleOne: Try just tar xvf pandodl-*.tar.bz2
[17:57] <ikonia> ivantis: how much ram does your machine have ?
[17:58] <spydon> Slart, okay :/
[17:58] <ivantis> Luke-Jr, how much ram do I have?
[17:58] <zvacet> ivantis : #ubuntu-server
[17:58] <shamm> spydon: command > filename && less filename
[17:58] <mook_> ok lets try  this again
[17:58] <Luke-Jr> ivantis: 128 MB, with burst to 256 MB
[17:58] <geirha> Janos: dpkg -S /libs/modules/blah/volatile    <- will tell you what package initially installed that file
[17:58] <IdleOne> ikonia, output is : pandodl-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2: ASCII text
[17:58] <Janos> geirha: ah! cunning!
[17:58] <earthen> anyone know how i can direct ubuntu to get updates from a usb drive
[17:58] <mook_> ok what was command to find the card ?
[17:58] <geirha> Janos: Er.. with /wl.ko at the end
[17:58] <ikonia> IdleOne: looks like someones put the wrong extention on it, or it's downloaded the link rather than the file, vi it
[17:59] <shamm> mook_: lspci | grep vga
[17:59] <dtownhero> Hello, I was editing a sound file within my desktop and now I cannot boot. I'm using live CD, is there anyway I can edit that file to reverse the changes without having to completely reinstall?
[17:59] <spydon> shamm, but I have allready run the command and I can't rerun it because it will give a diffrent outcome this time
[17:59] <shamm> spydon: use command > filename && less filename as a habit.  what was done is done. :(?
[18:00] <mook_> nothin came up
[18:00] <IdleOne> ikonia, looks like your right about the link
[18:00] <IdleOne> thank you
[18:00] <shamm> mook_: Looks like your vga was not initialized by kernel.
[18:00] <spydon> shamm, yeah...
[18:00] <mook_>  ok what can i do about that then ?
[18:00] <shamm> mook_: what video card do you use?
[18:01] <mook_> im copuing and pasting just fyi so...
[18:01] <geirha> Janos: Hm. On my system it doesn't find any package for that file, which possibly means it is being generated after the package is installed. But I'd try reinstalling linux-image-blah
[18:01] <shamm> mook_: ok
[18:02] <mook_> thats the thing i dont know what card is in here  shamm im trying to figure out i with thare was an app to show the specs like model vender all that stuff
[18:02] <Janos> geirha: lots of thanks, I'll be back if it doesn't work
[18:02] <zvacet> earthen:http://paste.ubuntu.com/253736/