[07:27] <tetreaul> what would be the purpose of playing music remotely?
[07:27] <district> I have a bin file I downloaded from softpedia.com and i want to install it. How do I install it?
[07:27] <intelikey> Woodstokk i don't know,  i use bx  :)     but the man pages for all cli apps are    man <appname>
[07:27] <intelikey> Woodstokk man man
[07:27] <district> Anyone please?
[07:28] <mmmiiikkkeee> ok :) cool thanks(i was looking for like a ssh -X -A ....to forward audio kind of thing...but this sounds like it could work too)
[07:28] <stdin> intelikey: no "ssh user@host cat file > file" works because your shell interprets the '>'
[07:28] <intelikey> district bash filename.bin
[07:28] <tetreaul>
[07:28] <district> oh thanks again
[07:28] <Woodstokk> ok, thanks.  Fishing for info now!  :)
[07:29] <stdin> Creationist: probably because you ran kcontrol or systemsettings with sudo once
[07:29] <Jucato> district: what are you trying to install?
[07:29] <district> wow you guys are great
[07:29] <CrypTom> hi all, I have several additional sources in sources.list. How can I easily see from within aptitude from which source a package is taken/upgraded?
[07:29] <stdin> I'm guessing nvidia/ati
[07:30] <intelikey> stdin correct  but   ssh blah@blah    then after  cat blah > file   file is on the remote   so i just thought maybe you could output music the same way....  was worth a shot
[07:30] <district> googleearth.bin
[07:30] <district> something like it
[07:31] <uga> intelikey: well, if ssh can tunnel udp (and therefore RTP), maybe you could
[07:31] <stdin> intelikey: I guess you could decode a file on remote to stdout then pipe that to /dev/dsp, but that's just being silly :p
[07:31] <intelikey> oh i have no doubt that it could be done uga
[07:32] <uga> if so, you can do RTP streaming using vlc
[07:32] <stdin> also VLC can stream media to your network, but that's not over ssh
[07:32] <intelikey> correct
[07:32] <uga> stdin: read what I just said... rtp over an SSH tunnel
[07:32] <intelikey> vlc is the easy way
[07:32] <stdin> or just setup a http share, there are lots of ways
[07:32] <Jucato> district: I see, then yeah: sh ./filename.bin would work.
[07:33] <stdin> uga: I still like my way, it's simpler. just like playing a local file
[07:33] <district> anyway, i really like kubuntu it's really great sotware
[07:33] <intelikey> Jucato might be better to use bash   you know how "bashic" packagers have gotten.
[07:33] <district> and thanks again
[07:34] <intelikey> sotware ?
[07:34] <uga> stdin: well, that sounds more like cheating, but heh, it should work too =)
[07:34] <uga> anyway, cya
[07:35] <intelikey> hmm sot uphenism for drunkard     sotware = software for over imbibers
[07:35] <Jucato> intelikey: true. I always forget that sh -> dash...
[07:35] <Jucato> snotware.. :)
[07:35] <district> thanks jucato, i'll be going now again thanks.
[07:35] <intelikey> Jucato software for trubblesom children ?
[07:36] <Jucato> booger software...
[07:36] <intelikey> :)
[07:36] <intelikey> good one.
[07:36] <Woodstokk> npillowpats:  I neglected to ask... is bitchx for terminal?  looks like it might be from the one lonely (tiny) snapshot I see so far.
[07:36] <stdin> it is
[07:36] <intelikey> Woodstokk it is cli
[07:37] <intelikey> Woodstokk what are you talking on right now ?
[07:37] <intelikey> talk/type/
[07:37] <Woodstokk> right now I'm about 99.5% yeathen till I get a little more info.
[07:37] <nitin> Hi All
[07:37] <Woodstokk> talking on an old Mac using IRCLE on OS9
[07:37] <intelikey> i C++
[07:38] <nitin> me talking on kubuntu ....
[07:38] <Woodstokk> have been unable to stomach going to OSX so decided to start looking at Linux
[07:38] <nitin> is this the room where we can discuss, our intrest in development
[07:38] <Woodstokk> took an immediate liking to kubuntu
[07:38] <nitin> ?
[07:39] <npillowpats> Woodstokk : no, it works in console
[07:39] <intelikey> nitin yes.  but you will get asked to go elswhere for it...
[07:39] <npillowpats> im on it right now, heh
[07:39] <stdin> nitin: no, #kubuntu-devel #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu are better places for that
[07:39] <intelikey> or no    take your pick.
[07:39] <nitin> ty
[07:39] <nitin> irc.freenode.net@#ubuntu-mozillateam
[07:39] <Woodstokk> the *ONLY* downside to kubuntu for me right now is a very large learning curve for a long time... but so far, it looks about irresistable as an overall system
[07:40] <alexbob1> I have a friend with a Dell Inspirion 1520 and Kubuntu won't boot on it.  it just gets up to sh with the prompt "(initrd)" and only the most basic tools.
[07:40] <intelikey> how about   /join #ubuntu-mozillateam
[07:40] <intelikey> you are already on freenode.net
[07:41] <nitin> ty i joing the mozilla team
[07:41] <nitin> :)
[07:41] <intelikey> busybox shell in the initramfs  most likely alexbobp
[07:41] <npillowpats> Woodstokk : i was using sabayon, a gentoo derivative (well, it is gentoo) and i was using kubuntu for a week or so waiting for my friend to get me a livedvd iso, and im just sticking with kubuntu because it has all my bases covered
[07:41] <npillowpats> not to say sabayon isnt a badass system
[07:43] <intelikey> all your _'s belong to _2
[07:44] <Woodstokk> npillowpats : I looked at ubuntu in 2 versions, ydl, and OSX.3  ... somebody suggested kubuntu flavor... and it was 'game over'
[07:44] <npillowpats> Woodstokk : i searched around for a while too
[07:44] <npillowpats> i tried all the main linux OS's
[07:45] <npillowpats> others are nice, but this one is the most functional for me
[07:45] <npillowpats> gentoo is my fave
[07:45] <npillowpats> after learning a considerable amount of stuff
[07:45] <intelikey> *buntu = *buntu = *buntu       just add a desktop and some default apps    they are all the same system   and same repos.
[07:45] <npillowpats> intelikey : heh, yeah
[07:45] <alexbobp> intelikey: yeah, that's the one
[07:45] <Woodstokk> OSX took away too much stuff I wanted.  So... that's why kubuntu gets the nod in my book
[07:45] <alexbobp> do you know why it isn't getting past that?
[07:46] <npillowpats> Woodstokk : by osx, do you mean mac?
[07:46] <stdin> intelikey = _2 = yintelikey = Agent_Bob, all the same ;)
[07:46] <Woodstokk> yes npillowpats
[07:46] <purpleposeidon> Is there a web-site archiver with a nice GUI?
[07:47] <Woodstokk> npillowpats: Have been a die hard Apple / Mac person for 20 years but getting ready to get off dependence on that boat now
[07:48] <npillowpats> Woodstokk : ive never used it, but i like the open sense of linux
[07:48] <Jucato> purpleposeidon: Konquero has one. in the Tools menu
[07:48] <npillowpats> you can do anything and everything, free, moddable, fixable
[07:48] <purpleposeidon> yes, but that only does the page. I want a bunch more than that!
[07:48] <stdin> s/Konquero/Konqueror/
[07:49] <yintelike> can't use the business connection for private stuff, there are still a few things i'd like to do before i disappear from planet earth...
[07:49] <Woodstokk> npillowpats: if all else fails, chat on the mac and do other stuff on kubuntu as it gets familiar
[07:50] <npillowpats> wii : work from console, keeps you from being distracted, that is the lesson i now know
[07:50] <npillowpats> Woodstokk : what do you mean by chat?
[07:50] <Woodstokk> npillowpats : Meant that I'd do what we're doing here with the mac and other stuff on kubuntu as it gets clearer item by item.
[07:51] <_2> Woodstokk konversation is the default "kubuntu" irc client
[07:51] <npillowpats> Woodstokk : you can use irc, aim on kubuntu
[07:51] <_2> !konversation
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <npillowpats> ill give you the apt-get program commands, heh
[07:51] <Woodstokk> npillowpats : yeah, it was easy to find, easy to use, and is workable... but would like the ability to see more than one channel at a time.
[07:52] <npillowpats> xchat?
[07:52] <_2> you can do that with almost any of them.
[07:52] <stdin> xchat has a similar interface to konversation
[07:52] <npillowpats> theres a UI front end for bitchx as well
[07:52] <npillowpats> i just open bitchx up in a few terminals
[07:52] <npillowpats> which is why my name always messes up
[07:52] <_2> you can split the screen in bx console
[07:53] <_2> or use tabs   or just have two windows in one window   (the default)
[07:53] <Woodstokk> pillowpants_ : Don't know how to even use terminal... much less more than one at a time
[07:54] <_2> daz one reason i like bx    it's one of the few apps that the defaults suit me.
[07:54] <Woodstokk> that's probably 'lesson two' over the next few weeks
[07:54] <_2> terminals scare me.
[07:55] <_2> that's why i stick to consoles     :)
[07:55] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : once i learned how to use it, i loved it
[07:55] <pillowpants_> you can do anything with it
[07:55] <pillowpants_> _2: whats the difference between terminal and console? arent they the same thing?
[07:55] <Woodstokk> pillowpants_ : so.... what's the diff between 'console' and 'terminal'?
[07:55] <Woodstokk> um.... sorry\
[07:55] <pillowpants_> shell vs console vs terminal?
[07:55] <pillowpants_> i am unsure
[07:56] <pillowpants_> different words for the same thing
[07:56] <_2> shell vs console vs terminal <<<<    that's like    "a" verses "a in c" verses "a in x"  ....
[07:57] <stdin> shells run in a console/terminal
[07:57] <pillowpants_> _2: you just confused me
[07:57] <pillowpants_> stdin: ah right
[07:57] <pillowpants_> but console vs terminal?
[07:57] <pillowpants_> id say console is strictly console, and terminal is a console opened in x
[07:58] <_2> that will work.
[07:58] <stdin> shells are "applications" terminals are normally physical devices and consoles are the software (or something like that)
[07:58] <pillowpants_> stdin: ah, i see
[07:59] <stdin> it's all confusing and goes back to the "old" days, where man were men and knew C :p
[07:59] <pillowpants_> C scares me
[07:59] <pillowpants_> i can barely learn python
[08:00] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : we all are, i think
[08:00] <pillowpants_> i like to think
[08:01] <pillowpants_> id*
[08:01] <_2> the kernel provides you with several consoles on the terminal you see.  and when a shell is started in one of those consoles you have the basic "console interface"    now.    xorg also runs inside one of those consoles, normally the seventh one.   tty7    the hot keys   [L_alt] +[f1-12]   select the first 12 ttys   [R_alt] +[f1-12]    the next 12 i.e. 13-24
[08:02] <pillowpants_> _2: cleared it up
[08:03] <_2> to break out of xorg you must add the [ctrl]  key to the normal hot key
[08:03] <stdin> "cli" is the easy way of saying it :)
[08:03] <_2> but cli could refer to a console  or a vertual-termainal  like konsole or gnome-terminal
[08:04] <stdin> exactly
[08:04] <_2> or xterm or rxvt or any of the many *term apps.
[08:04] <aldanon> anyone tried out the new 64bit x-fi drivers yet?
[08:04] <stdin> cli: "the bit where you type the things what that you want it to do"
[08:05] <_2> cli = command line interface    quite generic.   could even be the terminal emulator in konqueror
[08:06] <aldanon> _2 do you have much experience with compiling drivers?
[08:06] <_2> the shell  can be any of an assortment of command inturpretors as well    bash dash tcsh csh zsh  or even something exotic like command.com
[08:06] <_2> aldanon no.
[08:07] <_2> aldanon i don't compile unless needed,  and seldom need too
[08:07] <aldanon> doesn't seem anyone is too interested in the topic heh
[08:08] <aldanon> i've been waiting 2 years for this x-fi driver, but have no idea how to compile it
[08:08] <_2> too finish up  ^ ... command.com  or perl or python       and yes i can't leave the plug at M$ out of it....  i did like command.com until i learned better.
[08:09] <_2> aldanon ok.   do you have build-essential installed   start there.
[08:09] <pillowpants_> is there a text based image viewer?
[08:10] <_2> aldanon then  use   apt-get build-deps    to get the deps and  compile as normal
[08:10] <Woodstokk> 2 : is there someplace in the help docs (haven't found yet- looking right now) that talks through cli... getting started with it for somebody wearing the short pants at this stage?
[08:10] <_2> !cli | Woodstokk
[08:10] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : google?
[08:10] <_2> bot down ???
[08:10] <aldanon> you have IM _2?
[08:11] <ubotu> Woodstokk: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:11] <_2> aldanon no.
[08:11] <Woodstokk>  (cli = command line interface)
[08:11] <_2> aldanon and about to leave anyway.    you can ask in  #ubuntu     compiling is not kde specific.
[08:11] <_2> didn't i just say that.
[08:12] <Woodstokk> yeah, but I was too stupid to read that before I replied
[08:12] <_2> anyway   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal might have some interesting facts and maybe a link or two
[08:13] <_2> i'm all out of talk now.
[08:13] <Woodstokk> k.  I was looking for info in the kubuntu help docs at first.  Hadn't yet tried google
[08:13] <Woodstokk> thanks for the info.  Good stuff to fish through for a bit.
[08:14] <Jucato> to what?
[08:14] <_2> can't imagine them accepting that i'm out of talk....
[08:15] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : you could type "man console" into a terminal
[08:15] <pillowpants_> and read the man page
[08:15] <Jucato> oh yeah I can.
[08:15] <_2> gooday all     and shalom
[08:15] <Jucato> when _2 is out of talk, Agent_Bob will take over
[08:15] <_2> lol
[08:15] <Jucato> and then intelikey.. and the cycle goes on
[08:16] <Woodstokk> pillowpants_: Didn't even know that much 2 minutes ago.  ok... let me play with that a bit too!
[08:18] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : man pages were a revolution for myself, and a good source of help for the many problems i had with a few programs
[08:19] <Woodstokk> pillowpants_ : Yes, found it already.  Starting reading.  Also have a google page laying on the OS9 machine to read in a bit too.
[08:24] <Woodstokk> pillowpants_ : (and a couple others) Thanks for the help.  Have a lot to read for a while
[08:25] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : no problem
[08:26] <Woodstokk> the learning curve on this is going to be astronomical... but its better than being ticked off at S Jobbs for the next 20 years for taking stuff out of OSX
[08:28] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : its not that bad, took me a week or so to be coherent
[08:28] <pillowpants_> pretty quick
[08:28] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : even gentoo, which is hard to learn, only took me a short while
[08:29] <pillowpants_> i mean, what do you need to learn really?
[08:29] <Woodstokk> browsing and email fired up pretty intuitive on day one
[08:29] <pillowpants_> email, internet browser, aim, music, games, movies are all there really
[08:29] <pillowpants_> the hardest thing i encountered was getting my video card to work properly, next was learning wine
[08:30] <Woodstokk> chat started fairly easy... call me nit picky though
[08:30] <pillowpants_> then after that, just getting the commands for console down
[08:30] <Woodstokk> oh hey, that is another thing
[08:30] <pillowpants_> chat? how so?
[08:30] <Woodstokk> I threw this on an old iMac...
[08:30] <pillowpants_> i use pidgin for most chat
[08:30] <Woodstokk> attached a second monitor to it
[08:31] <Woodstokk> the main imac monitor went black
[08:31] <Woodstokk> right now its hard to decide if its better to run on one monitor and just leave as is... or try to fire up the second
[08:31] <Woodstokk> so far, the multidesktops thing is a cool way to resolve the two monitor thing
[08:32] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : undoubtedly someone had your problem before, and google will tell you
[08:32] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : yeah, multiple desktop rules
[08:32] <pillowpants_> set your hot keys for ctl + arrows for quick shifting
[08:32] <pillowpants_> kde doesnt have it standard
[08:32] <Woodstokk> so far, have been more interested in making sure the software itself is doing what I want than two monitors
[08:33] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : what software are you trying to get to work
[08:33] <Woodstokk> working it slowly... chat is the #1 thing right now
[08:33] <Woodstokk> then... a bit of graphics.  Would like something that has some similarity to photoshop type of app soon
[08:34] <Woodstokk> or... if you happen to know Mac software, the old Graphic Converter program is very flexible and nice
[08:34] <gary> hi, what's a good widget program for Kubuntu Feisty?
[08:34] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : gimp for sure
[08:35] <pillowpants_> its a photoshop copy basically
[08:35] <Woodstokk> gimp equivalent to GC?
[08:35] <Woodstokk> oh COOL!
[08:35] <Woodstokk> might it ever open up old PS documents?
[08:35] <pillowpants_> Woodstokk : i couldnt say, but maybe
[08:35] <pillowpants_> im sure theres a plugin or something
[08:36] <chernov>
[08:36] <gary> cheers to the beryl - adept orb fix
[08:36] <chernov> vsem privet
[08:36] <stdin> !ru
[08:36] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:37] <chernov> stdin: idi nahuy
[08:37] <stdin> !en | chernov
[08:37] <ubotu> chernov: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:37] <chernov> ubotu: idi nahuy
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about idi nahuy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <pillowpants_> haha, english only!
[08:38] <gary> anyone know a good program for widgets in kubuntu?
[08:38] <pillowpants_> gary: google it?
[08:38] <stdin> pillowpants: he's a troll, he can speak english just fine
[08:38] <gary> i found screenlets, but it's not in the repos
[08:38] <pillowpants_> stdin : what makes you say that?
[08:39] <stdin> gary: superkaramba
[08:39] <gary> ic, thanks stdin
[08:39] <stdin> pillowpants_: because it's not the 1st time he's tried that in here
[08:39] <stdin> gary: and you may want to find a new nick before the "real" gary comes online ;)
[08:40] <gary> heh
[08:40] <pillowpants_> stdin : ah, i see
[08:41] <gary_> lol, how many underscores does it take to use my name that isn't already taken
[08:41] <stdin> 500
[08:42] <stdin> (gary is a popular nick)
[08:42] <Woodstokk> try 'garyyyyyyyyyyy' you might get 'lucky'
[08:43] <gary_of_NYC> woot
[08:43] <stdin> now register it, quick! :p
[08:46] <gary_of_NYC> <<bows to the fellas who got adept-updater orb out of my tray
[08:47] <pillowpants_> stdin : how do you register?
[08:47] <stdin> !register
[08:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:47] <pillowpants_> ive been using this one for a while, and no one has taken it
[08:48] <pillowpants_> oh, freenode
[08:48] <stdin> yeah, "irc.ubuntu.com" is just an alias to "irc.freenode.net"
[08:48] <gary_of_NYC> speakin of which, if i installed PS CS under wine, will it also install background services like it does in Windows haha
[08:49] <pillowpants_> whats PS CS?
[08:49] <gary_of_NYC> photoshopCS
[08:49] <stdin> i can safely say "no"
[08:50] <stdin> #winehq will know more than me tho
[08:50] <pillowpants_> gary_of_NYC : ah
[08:50] <pillowpants_> gary_of_NYC : dont like gimp?
[08:50] <emilsedgh> i heard photoshop 6 or 7 runs fine with wine, but why?
[08:51] <gary_of_NYC> i've used PS for a long time, but gimp is cool too
[08:51] <pillowpants_> gary_of_NYC : yeah
[08:55] <pillowpants_> well im off to bed
[08:55] <pillowpants_> see ya
[08:55] <stdin> later
[09:09] <Christian_> hi
[09:09] <Christian_> i need help
[09:09] <Woodstokk> Just finished downloading Gimp.  Doesn't show up in the menu.  Is it installed?  How do I find it?
[09:09] <tetreaul> dunno if I can help... but hi!
[09:10] <Christian_> i need install kde desktop in ubuntu 6.10
[09:10] <tetreaul> woodstokk - I'm sure you have to install it before it will be installed ;)
[09:10] <Christian_> how can install?
[09:11] <Jucato> !kubuntu | Christian_
[09:11] <ubotu> Christian_: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[09:11] <Jucato> er sorry
[09:11] <Jucato> Christian_: install the package called "kubuntu-desktop"
[09:13] <Christian_> but iam running Ubuntu
[09:13] <Christian_> and i want install KDE desktop in ubuntu
[09:13] <Christian_> okay
[09:13] <stdin> !kde
[09:13] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[09:13] <tetreaul> Christian_:         sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <Christian_> i have other cuestion:/
[09:13] <stdin> Woodstokk: it should be in KMenu > Graphics
[09:13] <Christian_> beryl how can install?
[09:13] <Woodstokk> that's where I looked stdin... a little surprised to not find it there
[09:14] <tetreaul> Christian_: isn't beryl for gnome?
[09:14] <Jucato> Woodstokk: how did you install it?
[09:14] <Woodstokk> the info (Adept) said it was downloaded and installed
[09:14] <Jucato> tetreaul: not necessarily
[09:14] <Jucato> Woodstokk: hm.. ok.. try this. Alt+F2, "kbuildsycoca"
[09:14] <Woodstokk> am I missing something major?
[09:14] <Jucato>  then look in K Menu -> Graphics again
[09:15] <stdin> Woodstokk: try "kbuildsycoca"
[09:15] <Christian_>     sudo apt-get install beryl emerald emerald-themes ?
[09:15] <Jucato> !beryl | Christian_
[09:15] <ubotu> Christian_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:15] <Christian_> okay
[09:15] <Christian_> thank u
[09:15] <Christian_> :D
[09:18] <Jennitheowl> Allo ^.^
[09:19] <Woodstokk> Jucato : Hey that worked!   Did that just rebuild the menu?
[09:19] <Jucato> in a way, yes
[09:19] <Jennitheowl> now x.o im gonna probaly get flammed and called a massive newbie for this, but how does one obtain wine? x.x  and subsequently use it?
[09:20] <Jennitheowl> *hides under the noob rock*
[09:20] <Jucato> !wine
[09:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:20] <Jennitheowl> thanks!
[09:20] <Jennitheowl> ^.^
[09:20] <Jucato> Jennitheowl: just install the wine package, and use it like "wine filename.exe"
[09:20] <Jennitheowl> :D
[09:20] <Jennitheowl> Jucato: <3
[09:21] <Jucato> :)
[09:21] <Jennitheowl> I just got off work taboot, so my head is throbbing and i got so much help in here last night so i thought id come and ask again :)
[09:24] <Jennitheowl> >.> im really new to linux, and am making a collosal newbie of myself again but what might the "universe repository" be?
[09:25] <Jucato> !universe | Jennitheowl
[09:25] <ubotu> Jennitheowl: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:26] <Jucato> hope that helps a bit
[09:26] <Jucato> (sorry not much time to talk)
[09:26] <Woodstokk> Anybody here ever been able to open a Photoshop document using Gimp?  It looks suspiciously similar in function.
[09:33] <Woodstokk> To those of you who have offered info: Thanks much.  I'm gone for the night but fast turning into a Linux convert.  Halliluya!  I have seen the light!   G'nite all!
[09:36] <Jennitheowl> *beats head into keyboard* why do i try and learn after midnight with a headache?
[09:37] <stdin> because it's the Linux way
[09:37] <Jennitheowl> lol
[09:37] <Jennitheowl> x.o im not a bright girl sometimes, ya know?
[09:38] <Jucato> actually.. the Linux way is the "try and learn".. the WIndows way is the headache :)
[09:38] <Jennitheowl> Haha X3
[09:38] <Jucato> (my way is the beating head into the keyboard)
[09:38] <stdin> my way is "try it, fail, reformat, repeat until success"
[09:38] <Jucato> minus the reformat (hopefully)
[09:39] <Jennitheowl> i never really has the scary issues with windows some people did >.> but i swear im the only person who could destroy the apple os's and never know how or what the fuck i did
[09:39] <stdin> well, with major things
[09:39] <Jucato> language please :)
[09:39] <Jennitheowl> O.o no worries...
[09:40] <stdin> you see, ubotu doesn't like "bad" language :p
[09:40] <Jennitheowl> X3
[09:40] <stdin> !language
[09:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:40] <stdin> see ^ :)
[09:40] <stdin> silly ol' bot
[09:42] <waylandbill_> it seems that the only way to keep windows safe is to never connect it to the internet. :)
[09:43] <stdin> s/connect it to the internet/power it on/
[09:44] <Jucato> s/power it on/boot it/
[09:44] <waylandbill_> ok. never connect it to the net and never install anything. :)
[09:44] <Jucato> (Linux might be on the same computer.. never powering it on means never using Linux)
[09:44] <Jennitheowl> so...guess is hould grabt hat driver befoer i open wow >.> lolol
[09:45] <Jucato> waylandbill_: how about keeping Windows inside the CD only? :)
[09:45] <stdin> just format the disk if a windows cd got too close to the HDD
[09:45] <morca007> Can anyone recommend a decent graphical config tool for KDE?
[09:45] <Jucato> morca007: what exactly are you looking for?
[09:45] <stdin> system settings/kcontrol not doing it for you?
[09:45] <morca007> similar to Envy
[09:46] <Jucato> almost all configuration in KDE have GUI's
[09:46] <Jennitheowl> okay, now here comes another fun question or 2 from me!
[09:46] <Jucato> System Settings -> Monitor & Display?
[09:46] <stdin> use envy, if you don't mind a broken system
[09:46] <Jennitheowl> Question one, how does one get there usb headset working?
[09:46] <Jucato> !envy
[09:46] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:46] <morca007> Hence my not using envy. ;)
[09:47] <morca007> I guess I'll stick with the default tools
[09:47] <Jucato> stdin: I live it in your capable hands... which I will cut off later :)
[09:47] <stdin> Jennitheowl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound is a place to start with that
[09:47] <Jucato> (so that I could borrow it for myself...)
[09:47] <Jennitheowl> i was going to say you should graft them to your nostrals :D
[09:47] <stdin> Jucato: heh, I'll try but I'm not 100% here for long today
[09:47] <Jennitheowl> Question 2!
[09:48] <Jucato> stdin: neither am I... I sat on this work too long.. now I have to cram :(
[09:48] <Jennitheowl> I got the driver for my graphics card from the nvidia page :) how do i install it?
[09:48] <stdin> don't, use the packages
[09:48] <stdin> !nvidia
[09:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:48] <stdin> well, that 2nd question was easy :)
[09:49] <Jennitheowl> System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager (doesnt seem to exist for me >.> )
[09:50] <Jucato> stdin: ^^^ just love that
[09:50] <stdin> why do I edit the wiki with a "Note:" if no one reads it?
[09:51] <stdin> "Note: If you are using Kubuntu, please follow the instructions for Ubuntu 6.10"
[09:52] <Jennitheowl> shhhh >.>
[09:52] <Jennitheowl> im tired >.>
[09:52] <stdin> that's it, I'm making the whole think bold, underlined and italicised
[09:52] <Jennitheowl> size 20 font too !
[09:52] <Jennitheowl> :D
[09:52] <Jennitheowl> okay T_T now im just crying at how bad i missed that
[09:53] <stdin> you aren't the only one to just not see it
[09:55] <Jennitheowl> Note: you have to select the restricted modules first because the nvidia-glx package automatically installs the i386 one - and if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work.)
[09:55] <Jennitheowl> now with this part, im not sure quite what it means
[09:55] <Jennitheowl> like when i look at the resticted modules, they are all generic, so is that what it means? x.o to be sure and not jump to assumptions
[09:57] <stdin> it's ok then, you already have the restricted-modules
[09:57] <stdin> I think i made the note more noticeable now
[10:01] <Jucato> stdin: the instructions for Ubuntu 6.10 do still say use Synaptic right?
[10:01] <stdin> Jucato: no, apt-get
[10:02] <Jucato> oh yeah, after enabling the repos. hm..
[10:02] <stdin> (tho I need to rewrite the page really)
[10:02] <Jucato> please :)
[10:02] <stdin> humf, can't I just add the gutsy instructions, it's easy in gutsy :p
[10:03] <stdin> I wish kate could do ubuntu wiki highlighting
[10:04] <manouche> .part
[10:07] <Jennitheowl> back
[10:07] <emilsedgh> is there any statistics showing how many users does ubuntu and kubuntu have?
[10:07] <Jennitheowl> Really had to get some fresh air ^.^
[10:10] <VSpike> bah... a slight flicker and tear on windows moving is only a small thing, and doesn't exactly affect usability, but I cannot begin to describe how much I am obsessed about it now I've seen it
[10:15] <senfman> hi
[10:16] <senfman> I habe a problem with my wireless card (prism54) under kubuntu.
[10:16] <senfman> it registers with the access point, but I can not get a dhcp address.
[10:16] <senfman> under windows the card seems to work without problems.
[10:23] <Remo_A> when is the kde4 beta state over?
[10:23] <stdin> when it's releases
[10:23] <Remo_A> aren't there any deadlines or anything?
[10:23] <stdin> around December sometime
[10:23] <Remo_A> ok
[10:23] <Remo_A> ty
[10:24] <Jucato> beta 3 is due to be *tagged*  on the 10th
[10:26] <ardchoille> Jucato: Is there any chance that kde4 will be default in Hardy Herron?
[10:26] <stdin> nope
[10:26] <Jucato> nope
[10:26] <ardchoille> ok
[10:26] <Jucato> nada
[10:26] <Jucato> 0
[10:26] <stdin> Hardy will be an LTS release, so no way
[10:26] <ardchoille> lol
[10:26] <ardchoille> stdin: Oh, that's right.
[10:26] <Jucato> zit
[10:28] <emilsedgh> Jucato: will be announced 10 october, tagging is today (i think)
[10:29] <Jucato> emilsedgh: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule#October_10.2C_2007:_Beta3
[10:29] <Jucato> you are probably referring to the (vaguely named) Development Platform freeze...
[10:30] <emilsedgh> Jucato: they changed it again, 3 october was planned for tagging beta3
[10:31] <Jucato> they'ved announced the change a week ago
[10:31] <emilsedgh> 2 months and 8 days until announcement :D
[10:32] <Jucato> anyway... a 30 minute break..
[10:39] <crackhead_25> question for anyone: i have a lacie firewire external hard drive. it's formated in ntfs, i believe, and filled with data. what is the command line command to see if it is actually formatted in ntfs? how can i make it visible in my /etc/fstab so that i can use ntfs-3g with it, instead of standard ntfs? thanks!
[10:45] <strog_> hi
[10:46] <strog_> i have installed the nvidia driver and did a restart and now im experiencing a massive system lag
[10:46] <strog_> im using kubuntu
[10:47] <strog_> any ideas how to solve this problem
[10:47] <aantipop> strog_: whats your card ?
[10:48] <ardchoille> strog_: Open a terminal and run: top
[10:48] <ardchoille> strog_: It may not be the nvidia drivers.
[10:48] <strog_> i have an nvidia 6100 Go
[10:48] <strog_> i have top in front of me
[10:48] <ardchoille> ok
[10:49] <aantipop> strog_: you did install nvidia-glx-new ?
[10:49] <strog_> you mean the newest version?
[10:50] <aantipop> yes
[10:50] <berkes> weird: whenever I disconnect from the weg/network, e.g. when travveling in the train, NetworkManager makes "localhost" unreachable.
[10:50] <aantipop> what's on top of top ? ;)
[10:50] <berkes> if I kill NetworkManager then localhost works just fine again.
[10:51] <berkes> is this a known bug? Anyone else having the same problems?
[10:51] <strog_> aantitop: i have the xorg task on first place
[10:51] <afiestas> berkes paste in rafb.net/paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:52] <aantipop> strog_: how did you install your nvidia driver ?
[10:52] <strog_> i went to /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:52] <strog_> and did the sh command
[10:52] <strog_> then started it again
[10:53] <aantipop> what ubuntu version are you using ?
[10:53] <strog_> i just did the distribution upgrade
[10:53] <aantipop> to gutsy or feisty ?
[10:53] <strog_> feisty
[10:53] <aantipop> i recommend you to stop kdm again
[10:53] <aantipop> sh the installer and uninstall it
[10:54] <strog_> ok 1 sec
[10:54] <aantipop> not now
[10:54] <aantipop> then just sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new
[10:54] <strog_> aantitop: done
[10:56] <berkes> afiestas: http://pastie.caboo.se/103239 my /etc/network/interfaces.
[10:57] <strog_> aantipop: done now what
[10:58] <aantipop> strog_: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:58] <aantipop> then reboot and tell us if you have still performance issues
[10:58] <afiestas> berkes do a backup and then remplace "auto lo eth0 eth1" for "auto lo"
[10:59] <strog_> aantipop im getting wierd shell messages
[10:59] <strog_> hdc: drive not ready for command
[11:00] <aantipop> no idea why
[11:00] <strog_> let me restart and stay in the shell
[11:00] <afiestas> then save it and do this command (it will restart your network service) /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:00] <aantipop> strog:_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:00] <aantipop> strog:_ choose nvidia as driver
[11:01] <strog_> aantipop: not "nvidia-glx-config enable"
[11:01] <aantipop> that should have done that
[11:01] <strog_> ok give me a sec
[11:01] <berkes> afiestas. thanks. While at it, any idea why NetworkManager is not under init.d/ but at etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager ?
[11:03] <stdin> berkes: because it's a dbus service, not a stand-alone service
[11:04] <stdin> Jucato: you've had your 30mins :p take a look at my diff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?action=diff&rev2=120&rev1=118 :)
[11:04] <crackhead_25> anyone have an idea on my question? stdin?
[11:04] <crackhead_25> question for anyone: i have a lacie firewire external hard drive. it's formated in ntfs, i believe, and filled with data. what is the command line command to see if it is actually formatted in ntfs? how can i make it visible in my /etc/fstab so that i can use ntfs-3g with it, instead of standard ntfs? thanks!
[11:05] <stdin> post what "sudo fdisk -l" shows when it's plugged in (to pastebin)
[11:10] <berkes> afiestas: that broke NetworkManager completely: it dit no longer know how to use eth0/eth1 to connect.
[11:10] <afiestas> networkmanage don't manage any interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:11] <afiestas> if you wan manage your interfaces with it, you need remove any entry from /etc/network/interfaces
[11:11] <afiestas> and then restart it with
[11:11] <berkes> afiestas: this one is bothering me more, though: http://pastie.caboo.se/103241 resolv.conf containing a hardwired nameserver. ITs there too when I'm not connected
[11:12] <berkes> afiestas: hmm, okay, so NetworkManager only Manages networks who's interfaces are /not/ in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:12] <afiestas> it is because networkmanager get the nameserver with dhcp
[11:12] <afiestas> yes berkes
[11:12] <afiestas> it in kubuntu is called "manual mode"
[11:12] <afiestas> and networkmanager is called "roaming mode"
[11:13] <berkes> afiestas: sure thing, but then why is that nameserver still there when I am not connected?
[11:13] <berkes> afaik that would break the ability to let linux resolve any local hostnames in, say /etc/hosts/ when the nameserver is unreacahble, not?
[11:13] <afiestas> i don't know berkes :(
[11:13] <berkes> no prob.
[11:14] <afiestas> i use another network daemon, wicd
[11:14] <afiestas> because i need static ip + wpa support
[11:14] <toma> my installation is stuck at downloading language files.  But still, when that NetworkManager is running, and I am not connected to the net, localhost won't resolve.
[11:17] <jennitheowl> okay now has anybody here run wow yet? beacuse ive seen that already, the game loads up, but i crashes almost soon after
[11:17] <jennitheowl> as soon as i log into a char i mean
[11:19] <jennitheowl> >.> i swear, ive asked too many questions havent i?
[11:20] <gintak> i can't hear any sound when i play 3gp sound..pls help
[11:20] <gintak> i can't hear any sound when i play 3gp files..pls help -->edited
[11:21] <aantipop> gintak: try vlc
[11:21] <lz1gjd> hi, whats the name of that little program included in kubuntu which you can use to calculate math. expressions ?
[11:21] <dreen> howzit
[11:21] <jennitheowl> allo dreen
[11:21] <aantipop> lz1gjd: speedcrunch
[11:21] <lz1gjd> oh yeah
[11:21] <lz1gjd> thx
[11:21] <lz1gjd> :)
[11:22] <gintak> already tried vlc aantipop
[11:22] <gintak> still can't hear any sound
[11:23] <aantipop> gintak: cant help you then, works for me :/
[11:23] <jtmoney> how do i enable compiz in gutsy?
[11:23] <jtmoney> everything i've found is for ubuntu, not kubuntu
[11:23] <jennitheowl> Oh!
[11:23] <jennitheowl> i know that one!
[11:23] <stdin> jtmoney: #ubuntu+1
[11:23] <jennitheowl> i was told how to earlier T_T
[11:24] <stdin> !away > apol|work
[11:24] <jennitheowl> :\
[11:24] <apol|work> stdin: ???
[11:24] <jtmoney> jennitheowl: hit me
[11:24] <jennitheowl> jtmoney: give me a min, i have a MASSIVE headache and im trying to remeber before work
[11:24] <jtmoney> okay
[11:24] <jennitheowl> (its a link, im just trying to remeber what it was beacuse it was linked to my mobile )
[11:25] <jennitheowl> ugh, cant find it, sorry friend T_T
[11:25] <jtmoney> no biggie, thanks anyways
[11:25] <mzolisi> hi all
[11:26] <xst> Where do I enable desktop effects in gutsy?=
[11:26] <mzolisi> Quick Question
[11:26] <stdin> xst: #ubuntu+1
[11:26] <jennitheowl> And a question here too, how do i enable a usb headset? especialy one running with dsp
[11:27] <mzolisi> :How can I connect to irc.blabber.net from behind a firewall
[11:27] <mzolisi> I've used tunneling before, but im not too clued up about it
[11:28] <mzolisi> And there's the CGI:IRC perl module too, but it's performance is kinda not up to scratch, laggy
[11:28] <mzolisi> ANYBODY HOME?
[11:29] <jennitheowl> Dun think so :(
[11:30] <mzolisi> Hey jenni? can i ask you something?
[11:30] <jennitheowl> Perhaps
[11:30] <jennitheowl> dont know how much help i could be
[11:31] <mzolisi> Correction: May I ask you something (still self referential, arg - dog chasing it's tail)
[11:31] <jennitheowl> :\ go ahead!
[11:31] <mzolisi> Do you connect to 'irc.blabber.net' from Kubuntu?
[11:32] <jennitheowl> i just ran konversation >.>
[11:32] <mzolisi> and you can connect to 'irc.blabber.net'?
[11:33] <jennitheowl> No idea >.> im a newbie asking all the questions
[11:33] <jennitheowl> XD
[11:33] <jennitheowl> well bed time for me!
[11:33] <jennitheowl> gnite!
[11:35] <spacemadness> Anyone need help? just msg me
[11:36] <stdin> mzolisi: if you can connect here, there's not reason to not be able to connect to the other server
[12:05] <ardchoille> spacemadness: If you want to be able to pm with identified users, you might consider registering your nick.
[12:06] <ardchoille> !register | spacemadness
[12:06] <ubotu> spacemadness: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:08] <enjoi1216> hey can anybody on here help me setup firefox <IP_ADDRESS> on my comp ?
[12:08] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: Any reason you want 2.0.0.l7 when <IP_ADDRESS> is in the repos?
[12:08] <mzolisi> yeah sure
[12:08] <jtmoney> enjoi1216: sudo apt-get install firefox? or do you want to compile it from scratch?
[12:09] <jtmoney> ohh, so <IP_ADDRESS> is in the repos
[12:09] <enjoi1216> it's just the latest version ardchoille
[12:09] <jtmoney> sudo apt-get build-dep firefox; then download the firefox source; ./configure, make, make install i'm sure
[12:09] <enjoi1216> wel jtmoney you can go to the webpage and download it
[12:10] <ardchoille> You can download it and run it from $HOME and you don't need to compile anything.
[12:10] <ardchoille> And, the latest isn't always the best
[12:10] <enjoi1216> well yeah i know but i just want to get exposed to it
[12:10] <ardchoille> ok
[12:10] <enjoi1216> thats all because i love software exposure
[12:12] <enjoi1216> ok ardchoille i clicked to download the file now what do i do do i need klik open or save as
[12:12] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: No idea, I don't things that aren't in the repos.
[12:13] <enjoi1216> well but see heres the thing ardchoille you can go to the firefox webite and download it
[12:13] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: Sure, but I don't need to do that because the firefox in the repos works and doesn't crash :)
[12:13] <enjoi1216> because if you go to the website it says right on there firefox download for linux
[12:14] <enjoi1216> hey jtmoney
[12:14] <enjoi1216> could you please help me
[12:15] <enjoi1216> could somebody in this room show me how to do this the right way
[12:16] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: The right way? Sure.. sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:16] <jtmoney> haha
[12:16] <jtmoney> yeah, the one in the repos is the best way to go
[12:16] <enjoi1216> i know that jtmoney
[12:16] <enjoi1216> lol
[12:16] <enjoi1216> but i'm just saying
[12:17] <enjoi1216> ok heres the deal jtmoney
[12:17] <osh_> If "backports" are enabled then FF will be automatically installed when a new one has been built, no?
[12:17] <enjoi1216> go to http://www.firefox.com
[12:17] <mzolisi> Any IRC gurus in the house?
[12:17] <ardchoille> Seriously, one of the reasons I have never had a problem in *buntu is because I don't use things that aren't in the repos. It's when you ignore the repos and start using outside apps, scripts, etc that you start having problems.
[12:17] <jtmoney> ardchoille: exactly
[12:18] <mzolisi> installing from source usually gives me the best results though, a bit tedious but pays off in the long run
[12:19] <mzolisi> You should stick to one of the two, source or package installation
[12:19] <enjoi1216> <IP_ADDRESS> for linux i686 9.2 MB
[12:19] <crackhead_25> can anyone help with my question?
[12:20] <enjoi1216> well see archoille you can download the file or you can open it it's just when you download it you can't get it opened to get it installed
[12:20] <enjoi1216> you can save it or you can open it
[12:21] <crackhead_25> stdin: sorry didnt see your response. paste: http://pastebin.ca/724104
[12:22] <slimjimflim> hi, i just installed kde, but now i can't open a shell
[12:22] <bazhang> hello
[12:22] <crackhead_25> stdin: any thoughts?
[12:22] <slimjimflim> what gives?
[12:22] <enjoi1216> hey ardchoille did you hear anybody say anybody say anything about me getting banned this weekend
[12:23] <crackhead_25> stdin: it's /dev/sdb1 which is the pertinent one..
[12:23] <ardchoille> slimjimflim: alt+f2, type in "konsole", click Run
[12:23] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: No
[12:24] <enjoi1216> well i didn't know because i tried to reenter the room tha day when i was talking about defragmenting linux and i got booted
[12:24] <enjoi1216> so i didn't know what happened
[12:24] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: Were you perhaps arguing with someone who might have told you that you don't have to defragment Linux?
[12:25] <enjoi1216> wayland bill but i didn't know he ran the server
[12:25] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: He might not run it, but the ops here try to keep channel "noise" to a minimum
[12:26] <enjoi1216> well yeah thats understandable
[12:27] <enjoi1216> well after that day ardchoille i mean if i can't get help with what i need then i'll just seek it somewhere else
[12:27] <enjoi1216> i'm not saying that to be rude but it's just not worth it anymore not that i'm trying to be too off topic
[12:28] <ardchoille> That's the best advice. But, remember to ask your question more than once (after a decent pause) because people come and go here often
[12:28] <mzolisi> Cool Article on improving Kubuntu Performance : http://www.smartadmin.in/fiesty
[12:29] <enjoi1216> yeah but you know i'm really trying to open linux up and do new and different possibilities
[12:29] <enjoi1216> do=to
[12:30] <mzolisi> do=explore
[12:30] <ardchoille> mzolisi: Nice article
[12:30] <stdin> crackhead_25: ok, you seem to have 3 other hard drives. just use the right one in a line like this in fstab "/dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000 0 0"
[12:31] <bazhang> hello, all.
[12:32] <enjoi1216> see because ardchoille my college professor said once long ago that linux is very powerful software
[12:32] <enjoi1216> brb room need to get something to drink
[12:32] <ardchoille> enjoi1216: It is.. *if* you use it right
[12:32] <bazhang> I asked this before, and intelikey answered it, but I had to run out before I could write it down--for adding a Sata extrenal linux install to grub is it referred to as sda?
[12:33] <mzolisi> Thx, ardchoille. Just a bit scared of fiddling with kernel and partitions right now
[12:33] <bazhang> extrenal=external
[12:33] <ardchoille> mzolisi: I have never had reason to mess with the kernel.. and my lack of experience in that is greater than my need for a 0.01 performance boost.
[12:36] <mzolisi> haha @ ardchoille
[12:36] <mzolisi> fair enough
[12:36] <crackhead_25> stdin, i need a little more precise step by step instruction
[12:36] <crackhead_25> i'm not exactly sure what you mean..
[12:36] <enjoi1216> well you know something ardchoille i wonder if linux is powerful enough to have software to dynotune cars
[12:36] <crackhead_25> stdin, for instance, how do i know what the uid number is? the other lines in the etc/fstab have uid lines..?
[12:36] <stdin> crackhead_25: how many drives do you have connected?
[12:36] <crackhead_25> i have.. about 3
[12:36] <crackhead_25> i think
[12:37] <crackhead_25> two internal, one ext
[12:37] <stdin> crackhead_25: well, you don't need uid,
[12:37] <stdin> crackhead_25: the "umask=0000" takes care of that
[12:37] <mzolisi> DYNOTUNE Cars? Is that something like the Tesla Car?
[12:37] <crackhead_25> hm..
[12:37] <enjoi1216> no it's when you are performance tuning a car like most usually it's done through windows
[12:38] <enjoi1216> like when you are trying to make a car more faster
[12:38] <mzolisi> Oh I see
[12:38] <enjoi1216> or set a car up for drifting or faster dragtime
[12:38] <crackhead_25> stdin, so i should add your line exactly as you typed it, and then i should restart, and is hould be able to recognize that drive? can you explain what that line you typed is?
[12:38] <jtmoney> rice boys
[12:39] <mzolisi> so you hoop up sensors to the various components and based on those metrics you'll tweak as necessary
[12:39] <enjoi1216> but the main point is that i know they make dynotuning software is available for windows but do they make it for linux
[12:39] <mzolisi> i mean hook
[12:39] <peter_> my wolfenstien sound dont function
[12:39] <stdin> crackhead_25: you need to create the directory you want to mount it to, eg: /media/windows first. then you just need to do "sudo mount -a" and it should be there
[12:39] <mzolisi> Still playing WOLFENSTEIN :O
[12:39] <bazhang> sorry, my bad; let me try and restate: I installed another distro to an external drive (dual boot on internal drive), and after rebooting, cannot find external drive--fdisk -l says no disk found.but bios can see it.
[12:40] <crackhead_25> stdin, isn't it already mounted? i can examine it in /media/sdb1.. ?
[12:40] <crackhead_25> actually wait.. /media/[laciename]
[12:40] <jtmoney> enjoi1216: i don't think linux and your civic would like each other
[12:40] <stdin> crackhead_25: it may or may not be, i can't tell unless you show me the output of "mount"
[12:41] <crackhead_25> one sec..
[12:41] <bazhang> I'm assuming that I have to edit the grub file, but after following a walkthrough from Ubuntuforums, still no dice--maybe I should try and reinstall?
[12:41] <enjoi1216> how did you know i had a civic jtmoney
[12:41] <crackhead_25> stdin: http://pastebin.ca/724113
[12:43] <enjoi1216> man i don't feel many people are fond of me today
[12:44] <stdin> crackhead_25: ahh, so you already have it there, if you post your fatab to pastebin i'll show you the changes to make it all ntfs-3g
[12:44] <enjoi1216> what is the linux off topic channel
[12:44] <enjoi1216> does anyone know the weblink
[12:44] <crackhead_25> how do i see fatab?
[12:44] <bazhang> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:45] <crackhead_25> stdin: fatab?
[12:45] <stdin> crackhead_25: open it by pressing Alt+f2 and putting in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[12:45] <bazhang> #kubuntu-offtopic, etc.
[12:47] <guille> p3
[12:47] <guille> mp3
[12:47] <crackhead_25> stdin: http://pastebin.ca/724116
[12:50] <stdin> crackhead_25: ok, just add "/dev/sdb1	/media/sdb1	ntfs-3g	defaults,umask=0000	0	0" to the bottom, the save it. after that you can do "sudo mkdir /media/sdb1" and "sudo mount -a" and you should see it in /media/sdb1
[12:51] <peter__> how can i add the battery-symbol to the panel in dreamlinux?
[12:52] <stdin> dreamlinux?
[12:52] <ardchoille> peter__: PErhaps join #dreamlinux ?
[12:52] <peter__> jub
[12:52] <peter__> me gills system
[12:53] <peter__> girl
[12:53] <crackhead_25> stdin: can you do a pastebin to show me exactly what the new file should look like?
[12:53] <stdin> crackhead_25: http://pastebin.ca/724118
[12:55] <peter__> no help for dreamlinux here only kubuntu ?
[12:56] <stdin> peter__: have you read the topic?
[12:56] <crackhead_25> stdin: when i did mount -a , i got a bunch of error msgs
[12:56] <crackhead_25> said failed on all of them. .because already mounted..
[12:57] <crackhead_25> should i leave it and just see if it works on restarting the cokmp?
[12:57] <stdin> try it
[12:57] <peter__> my wolfenstien sound still dont function
[12:58] <peter__> on ubuntu
[12:59] <peter__> thx
[01:00] <civixier> okay, here's the thing. I got myself an extern hard drive, 20 gb, that I thought I would have for Linux. I got kubuntu and installed it into the disk, but when I rebooted everything just halts with the message Error 17. 'Grub Loading stage1.5' 'Grub loading, please wait' 'Error 17'
[01:01] <civixier> And I guess grub is the boot menu?
[01:01] <guille> anyone using the beta version?
[01:01] <civixier> and it has installed itself to my other drive, where i have XP installed. so for now, all I have that works is this live CD...
[01:02] <enjoi1216> coudl someone in the room help me to get my sound to work
[01:04] <guille> civixier are you new in linux?
[01:04] <guille> do you have 2 dirvers or at least a disc partition?
[01:06] <civixier> ive switch back and forth from linux to xp, but im a windows person. the primary disk is partitioned in two. on that one ive got XP. and ive got a USB disk where i want linux
[01:07] <civixier> and ive installed linux on that one already
[01:08] <enjoi1216> this is krazy my motherboard is no longer supported
[01:09] <civixier> any thoughts, guille?
[01:10] <guille> well i am new aswell
[01:10] <guille> i have been using this thing for a couple of weeks
[01:10] <civixier> oh, okay :P
[01:11] <guille> i dont know if i can be of much help but i can try
[01:11] <civixier> i google the problem at the same time :P
[01:11] <guille> i really dont know how to install kubuntu into an usb drive
[01:12] <civixier> thats okay, i think ive solved it soon >P
[01:12] <guille> ok then
[01:12] <guille> gl
[01:12] <ScorpKing> hi uga. :)
[01:12] <civixier> thx :D
[01:14] <ScorpKing> civixier: i think the installer will pick it up. /dev/sda or something like that.
[01:15] <civixier> it did, ive installed it and all. but i cant boot from either one of my hard drives now
[01:15] <ScorpKing> civixier: even if it's plugged out?
[01:16] <civixier> tried that, still error 17. wich it shouldnt get, because according to google error 17 in grub means 'could not mount from drive' or something like that
[01:17] <civixier> cannot mount from selected partition
[01:17] <ScorpKing> civixier: grub is installed on the hd and not on the usb disk. you'll have to restore the mbr for xp.
[01:18] <ScorpKing> !grub
[01:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:18] <ScorpKing> maybe that will help ^^
[01:21] <civixier> hih, thx. plowing through the text now :D
[01:22] <ScorpKing> and maybe google for mbr restore/create for xp.
[01:28] <civixier> uhm.. mr. ScorpKing?
[01:28] <ScorpKing> yep?
[01:29] <ScorpKing> hmmm?
[01:29] <civixier> call me stupid, but i have no clue of what im doing XD
[01:29] <ScorpKing> lol
[01:29] <ScorpKing> uneducated is not stupid.
[01:29] <ScorpKing> just need some educating...
[01:29] <civixier> okay, call me uneducated then ;D
[01:29] <ScorpKing> :D
[01:30] <ScorpKing> so what's wrong?
[01:31] <civixier> still the grub thingy... ive discovered that /dev/sda is the xp drive, while /dev/sdb is linux
[01:31] <youz> salut
[01:31] <ScorpKing> hi
[01:31] <civixier> whre do i go from here?
[01:31] <youz> je dcouvre linux
[01:31] <civixier> bonjour
[01:31] <ScorpKing> !fr
[01:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:32] <W8TAH> hi folks - im trying to get sound working in pidgin which is built from source -- when i play a sound the debug window says -- unable to create audiosink
[01:32] <W8TAH> what do i do now?
[01:32] <ScorpKing> civixier: uhmm. thinking...
[01:32] <civixier> me too :P
[01:33] <ScorpKing> civixier: so your hard drive have only windows on it right?
[01:33] <civixier> the one IN my computer has only windows on it. its partitioned, but i dont think it matters. the one OUTSIDE my computer has linux on it.
[01:34] <ScorpKing> hmmm. i see.
[01:34] <youz> i can't read .exe
[01:34] <ScorpKing> civixier: restore the mbr for xp first, without having the linux one in.
[01:35] <civixier> you know how to do that or should I google it?
[01:35] <ScorpKing> youz: there is no .exe in linux
[01:35] <ScorpKing> civixier: i'm not sure. i don't use windows anymore so can't check the commands. try google...
[01:36] <civixier> okay, thx :D
[01:37] <civixier> ooohhh, what i get its only to throw in the install disk for windows and press r
[01:37] <civixier> brb >D
[01:37] <ScorpKing> ok
[01:37] <ScorpKing> youz: to open .exe inlinux use wine
[01:37] <ScorpKing> !wine | youz
[01:37] <ubotu> youz: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:42] <gomoran2> Hello, I have a kubuntu, gutsy, xrandr, i810 rotation-problem.
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> Hm, anyone else seen this error from Adept Updater lately? I've been getting it every time I update packages
[01:43] <stdin> !gutsy
[01:43] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[01:43] <ScorpKing> Dragnslcr: what are you trying to install?
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> ScorpKing- this morning was updates to postfix and rdiff, but it's happened every time for the past week
[01:45] <ScorpKing> Dragnslcr: go to konsole and type sudo aptitude install junksdfjhsdfjhsd. that will remove any broken packages.
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> I have this line in dpkg.log, but no further mention of postgres:
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> "2007-10-03 07:42:07 status half-configured postgresql-8.2 8.2.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> So I'm thinking that's the broken package
[01:46] <ScorpKing> yeah, try that command
[01:47] <ScorpKing> if apt can't find a package it will go through anyway and clean up broken ones.
[01:50] <Dragnslcr> ScorpKing- you think that Adept error might be caused by a failure to start Postgres when it's finished installing the new version?
[01:51] <ScorpKing> not sure. it might.
[01:51] <ScorpKing> just remove or downgrade the package
[01:54] <Dragnslcr> Eh, maybe it'll get annoying enough that I'll finally get around to fixing it
[01:55] <ScorpKing> heh
[01:56] <snowdonkey> Hey, in Kubuntu when I have to open graphical app as root, do I have to use "kdesu" for KDE apps and "gksu" for GTK apps, or just "kdesu" all the time?
[01:57] <ardchoille> !kdesu | snowdonkey
[01:57] <ubotu> snowdonkey: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:57] <ardchoille> snowdonkey: If in kde, you can use kdesu for all apps (kde and gnome)
[01:58] <snowdonkey> ardchoille: Ok, thanks!
[01:58] <ardchoille> yw
[02:07] <IppatsuManXYZ> hi, I'm using Kubuntu 7.04 and I selected "manual configuration" on KNetworkManager, now I'd like to use it again, but I can't find any option to re-enable it. How do I do that?
[02:09] <Jucato> IppatsuManXYZ: right-click on the KNetworkManager ico in the system tray? or System Settings  Network Settings  Network Connections
[02:10] <Jucato> ScorpKing: I do hope that's not an auto away :)
[02:10] <ScorpKing> no
[02:10] <Jucato> ok. now go away :)
[02:10] <ScorpKing> gonna be busy for a while. :)
[02:10] <ardchoille> Jucato: lol
[02:12] <IppatsuManXYZ> Jucato: right click on the icon in the system tray doesn't show any option to re-enable KNetworkManager (it doesn't show the available wireless netowrks), it allows only to choose "Manual configuration" (which is the same as System Settings  Network Settings  Network Connections), but I'd like to have back the nice interface
[02:13] <Jucato> I don't know what that nice interface is really
[02:14] <IppatsuManXYZ> seems like a known issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437070
[02:14] <IppatsuManXYZ> and https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+question/8140
[02:15] <IppatsuManXYZ> the interface looks like this: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1712/989/1600/snapshot1.png
[02:17] <IppatsuManXYZ> seems I found a possible workaround (without installing gnome as someone suggests on ubuntuforums), brb
[02:20] <oscar> ola?
[02:20] <ardchoille> !es
[02:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:20] <ardchoille> I hope that's the right one
[02:20] <oscar> thanks
[02:20] <ardchoille> :)
[02:29] <IppatsuManXYZ> Jucato: I fixed it and I sent the solution to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+question/8140 - everything works fine again \o/
[02:30] <bentob0x> anybody bought an openmoko here?
[02:30] <Jucato> IppatsuManXYZ: nice. thanks for that ;)
[02:30] <Jucato> bentob0x: not **yet**
[02:31] <bentob0x> hehe, I'm on the verge of making an order now
[02:31] <bentob0x> I just want to know what will be the difference between the phone you buy now (developers only) and the one that will be for the public
[02:32] <Jucato> don't you want to wait before you buy? :)
[02:34] <bentob0x> not really :)
[02:34] <bentob0x> my mobile just broke yesterday
[02:35] <bentob0x> and I don't want to buy a new one except if I get an openmoko
[02:35] <Jucato> oh ok...
[02:36] <Zombie> Hello.
[02:36] <Zombie> Anyone here familiar with setting up a Firewall on Kubuntu?
[02:38] <Jucato> !firewall
[02:38] <Jucato> hm.. bot's slow tonight...
[02:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:39] <ScorpKing> i have to go. if civixier comes back tell him to google for 'boot linux from boot.ini'. he wants to boot linux from his usb disk.
[02:41] <IppatsuManXYZ> bye all
[02:50] <bazhang> hello everyone
[02:50] <Jucato> hello
[02:50] <genii> Hello
[02:50] <tobias> hi
[02:50] <genii> The channel lives!
[02:51] <Jucato> tea!!
[02:51] <Jucato> ty!!!!
[02:53] <jussi01> lol
[02:53] <bazhang> do you guys ever sleep?
[02:54] <wii> can someone help me?im looking for a good download manager that can download more then one thing but one after the next
[02:55] <Jucato> kget
[02:55] <Jucato> set Limits to 1 (or 2)
[02:56] <wii> Jucato: will it resume the seconde one by it self?
[02:56] <Jucato> yes
[02:56] <genii> DownThemAll extension for firefox also has queuing
[02:57] <genii> bazhang: We rarely sleep :)
[02:57] <Jucato> too much in fact
[02:58] <genii> Jucato: Odd, must be every second you are not in here, since i certainly see you a lot!!
[02:58] <genii> LOL
[02:59] <Jucato> well sometimes I sleep with Jucato online.. so that would explain it :)
[03:00] <genii> Aaaaaah
[03:06] <bazhang> genii: hahaha
[03:08] <wii> Jucato: can kget download torents files?
[03:09] <wii> pikachuu >_<
[03:09] <Jucato> wii: there's ktorrent for that
[03:09] <ardchoille> wii: I think kget can download torrent files, but not as a torrent, just as a file. There is ktorrent, tho
[03:09] <Jucato> oh yeah.. that :P
[03:09] <wii> lol
[03:09] <ardchoille> :)
[03:10] <wii> next time i'll be more clair on my questions :p
[03:10] <wii> pikachuu >_<
[03:10] <sergio> wenas
[03:11] <DevideZero> when kubuntu 7.10 stable will be released ?
[03:11] <Jucato> oct 18
[03:12] <wii> oct 15
[03:12] <DevideZero> oct . . .
[03:13] <Jucato> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[03:15] <wii> ktorrent look like confusion
[03:16] <wii> anyway got to got i start work in 30min
[03:16] <wii> pikachuu >_<
[03:17] <mzolisi> aye
[03:17] <dhq> !915
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <wii> Jucato: all are downloading at the same time in kget
[03:17] <mooper> Where do I check configs for removeable disks
[03:17] <Jucato> wii: you didn't set the Limits did you?
[03:17] <dhq> how do i use the 915 drivers
[03:17] <mzolisi> df -k?
[03:18] <mooper> automount usb flash isnt working
[03:18] <wii> Jucato: yes the default was 2 i put 1
[03:18] <mzolisi> www.kubuntuforums.net is your friend
[03:18] <Jucato> hm... it shouldn't download them all at the same time
[03:18] <Jucato> unless you manually click on the "play" button for each
[03:18] <wii> Jucato: it isnt the option limits?
[03:19] <wii> is it
[03:20] <Zombie> Anyone here have a default sorewall.conf file?
[03:20] <wii> anyway i'll see when i comeback from work
[03:20] <mzolisi> how did it go, mooper?
[03:20] <wii> pikachuu >_<
[03:21] <mzolisi> wii, got a wii ?
[03:23] <mooper> mzolisi: ?? how did what go?
[03:23] <mooper> usb flash....not very well
[03:25] <mzolisi> Im sure i've seen an article on www.kubuntuforums.net . Had an issue with a removable disk some time back
[03:32] <astan> hrm. my sound sounds a little scratchy since the last kernel update.. happened to anyone else? nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[03:37] <simone> Hello,Is there anybody italian?
[03:39] <hero> !kubuntu-it
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-it - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <hero> !ubuntu-it
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-it - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <llutz> !it
[03:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:54] <voidmain2> my brain is about to rupture because of nvidia drivers
[03:54] <cultavix> hello everyone ;)
[03:55] <cultavix> just updated to 7.10 Kubuntu
[03:55] <cultavix> used to always use ubuntu
[03:55] <cultavix> but I prefer KDE
[03:55] <cultavix> I am wondering though, why are there so many updates listed on adept ?
[03:55] <stdin> because Gutsy is still under development
[03:58] <civixier> !root
[03:58] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:58] <civixier> haha, how poetic
[03:59] <stdin> poetic, and true
[03:59] <civixier> yea, so ive experienced the last 10 minutes XD
[04:00] <stdin> !sudo | the way of the future, today
[04:00] <ubotu> the way of the future, today: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:01] <civixier> uhm.. didnt find out how to change the root password at !root
[04:02] <civixier> oh its at !sudo, right?
[04:02] <civixier> :D
[04:02] <stdin> "sudo" is the command, not "!sudo"
[04:03] <civixier> yea, but you wrote !sudo, I meant :P
[04:03] <civixier> !sudo
[04:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:03] <stdin> that's a command to ubotu to say that ^
[04:03] <stdin> !bot
[04:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:04] <civixier> yes, i know ^
[04:04] <civixier> ^^
[04:21] <civixier> uhm.. ive got linux on my external and xp on my internal. is there any program that lets me boot windows inside of linux?
[04:21] <stdin> vmware maybe
[04:21] <stuq> anyone know why in gutsy, knetworkmanager is going so haywire?
[04:21] <stdin> #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[04:21] <stuq> doesn't show any of my wireless devices since the last update
[04:21] <stuq> i can still connect just fine
[04:21] <civixier> hmhm, ill look it up. thx :D
[04:22] <jbc_> how are you
[04:23] <tobias> I got a problem myself this time: After dist-upgrading my system, knetwork manager says "no connection found" but manually, he detects an active eth0 connection - additionally powermanager wont start anymore
[04:23] <tobias> but says: guidance-power-manager.py: cannot connect to X server :0
[04:23] <stdin> gutst?
[04:23] <stdin> *gutsy
[04:23] <tobias> feisty
[04:24] <stuq> tobias, same problem here
[04:24] <stuq> power manager works for me, though
[04:24] <tobias> stuq: really? strange... what could it be?
[04:25] <stuq> not sure...
[04:25] <stuq> i see 'wifi' now in ifconfig
[04:25] <stuq> which *I* didn't put there..
[04:25] <tobias> I got eth0 and lo in there
[04:26] <stuq> well, i hope they work this out... knetworkmanager got to be quite nice in the recent versions
[04:26] <stuq> the older ones didn't update the AP list worth a damn
[04:26] <eMaX> re
[04:27] <tobias> I mean- I dont care about the network manager.. I even thought of not letting him start at system startup
[04:27] <tobias> but I need my powermanager back :s
[04:27] <eMaX> ne1 recently has problems w/ flash player plugin for firefox? konqueror and firefox just crash on any video from youtube
[04:27] <tobias> eMaX: got the codecs installed ?
[04:28] <eMaX> sure changed nothing just maybe since a recent apt-get update
[04:28] <stuq> what's the dif between power manager and kpowersave?
[04:28] <stuq> they both start up now
[04:28] <stuq> seem to duplicate a lot of functionality
[04:28] <tobias> not one of them loads for me ._.
[04:29] <tobias> eMaX: youtube videos work fine for me~ after updating and upgrading
[04:30] <Satyruz> I have a problem configuring my file xorg.conf ... I have ati x300 and I would like to get a resolution of 1280x800
[04:30] <Satyruz> is it possible?
[04:30] <Satyruz> can u help me?
[04:30] <tobias> !resolution
[04:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:31] <Satyruz> thanks I try
[04:31] <eMaX> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48
[04:31] <tobias> same here eMaX
[04:31] <shaffy> can anyone tell me how to give change the rights of my removable drive to give me write access?  for some reason, when i plug in my usb HD, i can only read.
[04:32] <jbc_> ubuntu 7.04
[04:33] <stuq> shaffy: cd /media/usbdrive then chmod/chgrp/chown depending on what's needed
[04:33] <stuq> man each of them, they're pretty easy command lines
[04:33] <genii> shaffy: If it had NTFS, see !ntfs-3g from ubotu
[04:33] <genii> *has/had
[04:34] <stuq> in /etc/fstab, there will be an entry for automounting your drive
[04:34] <tobias> dam I really want my powermanager back :\
[04:34] <stuq> you can change the options there so you won't have to do it by hand each time
[04:34] <shaffy> genii, it did have it, until i reformatted it into fat32
[04:34] <stuq> heh
[04:35] <stuq> shaffy: bring up konq and go to media:/
[04:35] <stuq> is the drive showing up there?
[04:35] <shaffy> stuq, it is, but i think i see the problem,
[04:36] <shaffy> the drive was originally ntfs, but now it is fat32.  however, fstab still shows it as ntfs
[04:36] <tobias> http://pastebin.com/ddd75cc1 <- when I want to start guidance-power-manager
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> so change fstab
[04:36] <stuq> shaffy: that would def. cause a prob
[04:37] <shaffy> stuq:    /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:37] <stuq> so umount /dev/sdb1
[04:37] <Pitabred> And then remove the "ro" and change ntfs to fat32
[04:38] <stuq> then mount /dev/sdv1 -t fat /[mountpoint]
[04:38] <stuq> then mount /dev/sdb1 -t fat /[mountpoint]
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> vfat
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> for both of you
[04:38] <stuq> Daisuke_Ido: thkyou
[04:38] <stuq> i was just noticing that
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> fat won't work, nor will fat32
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[04:38] <shaffy> thanks stuq.
[04:38] <voidmain2> I have the nvidia-glx installed and it semi-works except when I try to run glxgears it produces a core dump.
[04:38] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: I noticed that too
[04:39] <shaffy> hehe okay, thanks everyone
[04:39] <Pitabred> Yeah, what Daisuke_Ido said.  I haven't woken up yet... I've been out of bed for 10 minutes :P
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> oh lord, i just realized it was time to clean out the apt cache
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> :\
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> mornin' BluesKaj
[04:41] <BluesKaj> 'morning Daisuke_Ido
[04:42] <amc> hi
[04:42] <BluesKaj> and morning to all
[04:42] <northstar> I get this error message http://pastebin.com/d1484ca9c when trying to install a kernel i just compiled.  Any ideas?!?
[04:42] <amc> :D
[04:43] <amc> ima nekoj sto me razbira
[04:43] <amc> ???
[04:43] <amc> tesko a?
[04:43] <markus__> link to German chan please
[04:44] <Jucato> !de | markus__
[04:44] <ubotu> markus__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:44] <BluesKaj> yeah, 2.6.22 is buggy northstar , after upgrading to gutsy it auto-installed but the kernel won't boot on my setup
[04:44] <civixier> hmm.. ive got a blackout... the command in the terminal to install stuff is...
[04:44] <tobias> sudo apt-get install program
[04:44] <civixier> thanks :D
[04:45] <tobias> np :)
[04:45] <northstar> BluesKaj: so you recommend i drop down a version or two and try to recompile?
[04:45] <tobias> while program is the name of the app. you want to install.. but I'm sure you know about that
[04:46] <BluesKaj> well, northstar so far so good with 2.6.20 ...it's your choice
[04:46] <Marc78> Hi there.
[04:47] <northstar> BluesKaj: i need a newer kernel because of a hard disk related issue...
[04:47] <BluesKaj> which one are running now ?
[04:47] <Marc78> I need som ehelp with my ubuntu 6.10 package database.
[04:47] <BluesKaj> err is running
[04:48] <stdin> Marc78: is it "locked" ?
[04:48] <northstar> BluesKaj: 2.6.20-16
[04:49] <Marc78> Indeed, stdin!
[04:49] <stdin> !aptfix | Marc78
[04:49] <ubotu> Marc78: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:49] <stdin> follow what ubotu said
[04:49] <BluesKaj> hmm northstar , what's the hard disk issue with that kernel
[04:50] <Marc78> Thanks, I`ll try that right now.
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> possibly that it calls everything sd*?
[04:50] <northstar> BluesKaj: the disk doesn't spin down on shutdown, instead it just grabs the head and grinds to a hault
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> ah yes, that's a nasty issue that never should have come up
[04:51] <BluesKaj> eeuuww Daisuke_Ido...any ideas about northstar's problem ?
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> newer kernel
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: ever hear a click from the hard drive when you're shutting down?
[04:52] <hollandlucas> I hate my ISP... 122 KB/sec on Kubuntu Gutsy Beta
[04:52] <BluesKaj> click ?
[04:52] <hollandlucas> I should be getting 10 Mbit/s
[04:52] <northstar> BluesKaj: Daisuke_Ido: its already been reported as a bug and supposed fixed in higher kernels
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> hollandlucas: aww, poor baby
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe the server's loaded
[04:52] <hollandlucas> no
[04:52] <hollandlucas> it's an ISP problem
[04:52] <hollandlucas> but I'm not gonna call them again
[04:52] <hollandlucas> last time I called
[04:53] <hollandlucas> they threatened me
[04:53] <civixier> kubuntu doesnt seem to find my internal drive (is installed on the external), and im trying to use vmware to get to the internal drive where ive got xp installed. help?
[04:53] <BluesKaj> oh, now yer scaring me ...I'm still using 2.6.20
[04:53] <hollandlucas> they said that if I ever called again (about the speed) they'd make me pay for every action they take to solve the problem
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> you're not *entitled* to those speeds unless your isp has a guaranteed bandwidth agreement, and most don't
[04:53] <BluesKaj> hollandlucas, don't use your enter key for emphasis
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds like it's time to change ISPs
[04:54] <hollandlucas> It is. But I'm in a 2-year contract
[04:54] <Marc78> My problem is solved; thanks a lot!
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> if they aren't providing the service you pay for, you can most likely get out of that contract
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> from the sound of it, they know there's an issue and refuse to fix it
[04:55] <hollandlucas> The issue is that they have too many customers in my area and lack the infrastructure to support them
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> they oversold, as do most isps, because they don't think customers will use what they're promised
[04:56] <hollandlucas> Daisuke_Ido: My old ISP was much better but I left them because my current ISP is cheaper
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> and now you know why :)
[04:56] <hollandlucas> now I'm willing to pay more for decent service
[04:56] <genii> I hope they're also less expensive
[04:57] <BluesKaj> hollandlucas, in this world there's an old saying , no free lunches and you get what you pay for :(
[04:57] <BluesKaj> hey genii
[04:57] <hollandlucas> I might try writing a letter to my ISP asking them to let me out of the contract
[04:58] <tobias> anyone has some experiences with powermanagers and can tell me one? (except the standard one)
[04:58] <genii> hollandlucas: Just get your lawyer to do it
[04:58] <Daisuke_Ido> you know what they say...  you take the good, you take the bad...  you take it all, and there, you have the facts of life.
[04:58] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[04:58] <hollandlucas> genii: lawyers are expensive
[04:58] <genii> BluesKaj: aNYTIME :)
[04:58] <genii> bah capslock
[04:58] <Daisuke_Ido> a lawyer that wants to make a name for himself will take that case pro bono
[04:59] <hollandlucas> Daisuke_Ido: In Germany there's no such thing as pro bono ;-)
[04:59] <civixier> how do I add a hard drive in linux?
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> oh.
[04:59] <hollandlucas> they are required by law to take money
[04:59] <hollandlucas> It's illegal for a lawyer to work for free
[04:59] <genii> hollandlucas: The moment big companies hear from a lawyer they back off
[05:00] <hollandlucas> genii: might be, but I can't afford a lawyer
[05:00] <genii> hollandlucas: If you are required to pay the lawyer, asK Is it more money to buy out the remining part of my 2 year contract with this ISP or pay a lawyer?
[05:00] <hollandlucas> genii: You think they'd let me buy myself out?
[05:00] <genii> hollandlucas: That is the way cell service for instance works
[05:01] <savetheWorld> hollandlucas: write a polite letter asking them to let you out of the contract.
[05:01] <BluesKaj> genii , in xorg file under Section "InputDevice" ,Identifier  "Generic Keyboard", add this : #Optio "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
[05:01] <hollandlucas> savetheWorld: will do. It can't get any worse ;-)
[05:01] <savetheWorld> hollandlucas: explain what your issue is in the letter.
[05:01] <genii> BluesKaj: LOL
[05:01] <savetheWorld> hollandlucas: keep a copy
[05:01] <BluesKaj> err genii #Option	    "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
[05:02] <BluesKaj> :)
[05:02] <genii> BluesKaj: Unfortunately i still like to use the capslock on occasion, so i'd miss it, annoying as it can sometimes be
[05:02] <BluesKaj> very handy for my phatphingers
[05:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, i suppose cuz of your work etc
[05:04] <savetheWorld> hollandlucas: then if they officially refuse , contact a lawyer and the press.
[05:06] <mzolisi> hi savetheWorld
[05:06] <savetheWorld> hi
[05:07] <mzolisi> are you like a member of GreenPeace or something
[05:07] <savetheWorld> F/OSS
[05:07] <mzolisi> F/OSS, never heard of em
[05:07] <mzolisi> what do they do?
[05:08] <mzolisi> I read some article saying "99% of all the species that have ever lived on the planet are now extinct"
[05:09] <mzolisi> sad hey
[05:09] <hydrogen> mzolisi: I read another article saying you're off topic for the channel
[05:09] <sredna> your mysql package for amd64 is buggy, it's sompiled with wrong flags
[05:10] <fignew_> that's a really good article
[05:10] <sredna> it causes kdepim to fail compiling
[05:10] <fignew_> kdepim uses mysql?
[05:10] <sredna>  /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/mysql/libmysqld.a(client.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `client_errors' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[05:11] <mzolisi> hydrogen: dont be an A-hoel
[05:12] <mzolisi> hydrogen: dont be an A-hole, i mean
[05:12] <Daisuke_Ido> he's always like that
[05:12] <jpwhiting> Riddell: others: is there a way to re-install a package that's already installed?
[05:12] <mzolisi> uniunstall it
[05:12] <mzolisi> and install it again
[05:13] <Daisuke_Ido> or just select "reinstall
[05:13] <jpwhiting> reinstall?
[05:13] <jpwhiting> from adept?
[05:13] <llutz> aptitude reinstall package-name
[05:13] <jpwhiting> ah
[05:13] <Daisuke_Ido> can't say if it's there in adept, i know it is in synaptic
[05:13] <fignew_> sredna: if you really need to
[05:13] <Daisuke_Ido> (tab completion doesn't work in irc :\)
[05:13] <fignew_> you can prob. have apt recompile it for you :)
[05:14] <hollandlucas> savetheWorld: just finished the letter ;-)
[05:14] <jpwhiting> thanks all
[05:14] <fignew_> ok :)
[05:14] <sredna> but when kde4 is released, this should be fixed of course
[05:14] <fignew_> but do submit a bug report :)
[05:15] <savetheWorld> hollandlucas: you may want to find others with a similar issue and start thinking about a class action or whatever the legal equivalent is in your legal system.
[05:15] <sredna> where?
[05:15] <fignew_> cause no one here is gonna look into it
[05:16] <fignew_> !bug
[05:16] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:17] <harald> I have a problem with my fglrx under linux distributions (also kubuntu). My fan is running at full speed if I use fglrx.
[05:17] <harald> I searched for fixes for this problem in the net but I found nothing :8
[05:17] <harald> :(
[05:17] <harald> My graphiccard is an ATI PCI-E X850
[05:18] <harald> Motherbaord ASUS-P5GD1
[05:18] <harald> CPU: P4 3GHz
[05:18] <andycr> Which fan?
[05:18] <hollandlucas> savetheWorld: the equivalent would be a Sammelklage ("collected suit") but it's expensive... I'll just hope they'll let me out of the contract for now
[05:18] <andycr> GPU or CPU?
[05:18] <harald> for the graphiccard
[05:18] <harald> CPU
[05:18] <andycr> no idea sorry
[05:19] <harald> It doesn't happen in other operating systems
[05:20] <harald> I'm not alone with the problem when you are searching at google... but they have no fixes
[05:21] <fignew_> argh @ fglrx
[05:21] <harald> ?
[05:22] <fignew_> I would replace the heatsink on the GPU
[05:22] <fignew_> with a fanless one :/
[05:22] <fignew_> but that's not that great of a solution
[05:23] <harald> not realy
[05:24] <buz> try looking into r300 drivers
[05:24] <buz> they may be in an useable state by now
[05:24] <buz> fglrx is hopeless
[05:25] <harald> okay... that's not so good :(
[05:25] <buz> oh and then there is powerstate setting for some of the ati cards
[05:25] <buz> google atipower
[05:25] <harald> I can choose only one powerstate for my ATI
[05:25] <harald> and this powerstate is buggy
[05:25] <buz> with official or with atipower?
[05:25] <buz> well that's the wonders of fglrx
[05:25] <savetheWorld> hollandlucas: class action suits are usually done for free by a law firm which specializes in them - they only make money if they win, and theur fees come out of the settlement or the judge directs the defendant to pay them (if the defendant loses.)  (this is in the USA, YMMV)    Your best bet is to stay friendly and polite and use the power of the press.
[05:25] <harald> official driver vom ati
[05:25] <buz> in a desktop, you're probably best off buying a cheap nvidia kcard
[05:26] <harald> I thought the same... but under linux it runs very good and I payed much for it.
[05:26] <harald> I mean windows
[05:26] <buz> yeah but it's old now ;)
[05:27] <harald> that's right
[05:27] <buz> cheap nvidia card will be faster
[05:27] <buz> i nknow it sucks
[05:27] <harald> yeah
[05:27] <buz> but i sold a brand new thinkpad because fglrx was so bad
[05:27] <harald> what can I use instead of them?
[05:27] <buz> only nvidia
[05:27] <harald> instead of flgrx?
[05:27] <harald> fglrx
[05:27] <buz> google for r300 open source drivers
[05:27] <buz> they may or may not work with X8XX
[05:28] <harald> I will try and will c it =D
[05:28] <buz> if you value your time, buy an nvidia card ;)
[05:28] <harald> of course but at time I have not much money
[05:29] <harald> but many thx for the information about the r300 drivers
[05:34] <Dalton> Does anyone know how to fix a broken adept_manager?
[05:34] <genii> !aptfix
[05:34] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:37] <Dalton> thanks ubotu, but now it says "Errors where encountered while processing runit git-daemon-run
[05:41] <genii> Dalton:    in konsole: sudo touch /etc/inittab         then try the updater again
[05:43] <rattt> wat do i use to open .rar files in linux?
[05:44] <fignew_> unrar
[05:44] <genii> !info unrar
[05:44] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[05:44] <fignew_> sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:45] <Dalton> hey genii, won't that kill my inittab?
[05:45] <fignew_> Dalton: no
[05:46] <Dalton> hey fignew_ : no as in don't do it, or no as in it won't kill the inittab?
[05:46] <RATTT> how do i make files hidden?
[05:46] <fignew_> no as in it won't kill inittab
[05:47] <llutz> RATTT: mv file .file
[05:47] <fignew_> RATTT: hidden files/folder start with .
[05:47] <Dalton> thanks fignew_
[05:47] <RATTT> ??
[05:47] <fignew_> Dalton: touch "touches" files
[05:47] <RATTT> give me example   lets say i have file called casino.wav
[05:48] <llutz> RATTT: mv casino.wav .casino.wav  (pointless)
[05:48] <Dalton> Hey Rattt, any file that begins with a period is "hidden"
[05:48] <fignew_> Dalton: creates them if they don't exist, and update their edit-time if they do
[05:48] <RATTT> ok. i have alot of files. how do i make them all hidden at one time.
[05:48] <Dalton> Hey fignew_, I now have a zero size inittab.....
[05:48] <llutz> RATTT: why should one do that?
[05:49] <fignew_> to be honest, I'm not sure why he had you touch inittab
[05:49] <RATTT> i wrote a java programa and i want to hide everything except the executable
[05:49] <fignew_> Dalton: run sudo apt-get update, and tell me what it says
[05:49] <genii> because of this bug<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:49] <fignew_> !info mmv | RATTT
[05:49] <ubotu> rattt: mmv: Move/Copy/Append/Link multiple files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.01b-14 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[05:50] <fignew_> RATTT: install mmv
[05:50] <llutz> RATTT: if user uses "show hidden files" he will see all those files anyway.
[05:50] <RATTT> ok
[05:50] <RATTT> how do i ue mmv
[05:50] <llutz> man mmv
[05:50] <genii> the git-daemon-run     looks for a nonexistant inittab which halts it's setup
[05:51] <Dalton> here is what I get "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[05:52] <fignew_> RATTT: 1 secf
[05:52] <fignew_> sec*
[05:52] <fignew_> I see genii
[05:52] <Dr_willis> !fix adept
[05:52] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:52] <genii> Dalton: That means you likely have something like a window open with package manager running, or update manager is running, or some other thing using the apt backend
[05:52] <Dr_willis> be sure any other apt programs are not running
[05:53] <genii> Dr_willis: thanks for the qualifying remark :)
[05:53] <bpat1434> HI all.  Thinking about switching to Kubuntu.... does it support dual monitors with dual SLIed adapters?
[05:54] <genii> bpat1434: Dual monitors certainly. dual SLI, dunno
[05:54] <fignew_> dual SLI as in 4 video cards?
[05:54] <bpat1434> no, 1 SLI as in dual video cards with SLI
[05:54] <fignew_> ok
[05:54] <Dalton> Thanks guys, that did the trick
[05:55] <fignew_> bpat1434: check nvidia's website. Their linux driver changelog should say if it supports SLI
[05:55] <fignew_> If I remember correctly, they do.
[05:56] <bpat1434> okay, so I'd need to use the nVidia proprietary drivers?
[05:56] <fignew_> to take advantage of SLI, yes
[05:58] <fignew_> yea, SLI is supported
[05:58] <bpat1434> okay, kool.  Thanks!
[05:58] <BluesKaj> bpat1434, http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8174/README/32bit_html/appendix-w.html
[05:58] <bpat1434> that was the worst thing I had to deal with in Fedora was dual monitors off 1 card :)
[05:59] <fignew_> bpat1434: the nvidia-settings program
[05:59] <fignew_> actually will setup dualmonitors really easily
[06:00] <bpat1434> i was using an ATI card at the time...
[06:00] <deviance> Where is the PHP executable on linux?
[06:00] <bpat1434> but when I get my parts from newegg, I'll be running dual nVidia 8600 cards :)
[06:00] <deviance> Ive run whereis php but I get php:
[06:01] <Azzco> I've got a problem with mouse grabbing and wine games...
[06:01] <fignew_> deviance: you installed php?
[06:01] <deviance> Yeah
[06:01] <deviance> It works fine on my local server
[06:01] <deviance> Localhost I mean
[06:01] <Azzco> The mouse isn't grabbing unless I hold one button down...
[06:02] <deviance> Ahh, whereis php5 does the trick
[06:02] <fignew_> deviance: sudo apt-get install php-cli
[06:02] <fignew_> I see
[06:02] <deviance> php5: /etc/php5 /usr/lib/php5 /usr/share/php5
[06:02] <deviance> Which do I use?
[06:02] <fignew_> none of those are executables
[06:03] <fignew_> you'll need to install php5-cli
[06:03] <deviance> Ah Okay :D
[06:03] <fignew_> if you're looking for the location of an executable, by the way, the command is "which:
[06:03] <fignew_> "which"
[06:04] <deviance> So it would be "which php"
[06:04] <fignew_> yes
[06:04] <deviance> Or php5?
[06:04] <fignew_> it should be symlinked
[06:04] <fignew_> they should both point at php
[06:04] <deviance> tim@tim-desktop:~$ which php
[06:04] <deviance> /usr/bin/php
[06:04] <deviance> tim@tim-desktop:~$ which php5
[06:04] <deviance> /usr/bin/php5
[06:05] <Juacom99> hi
[06:05] <deviance> Which one? And are they excecutable?
[06:05] <fignew_> they're both the same thing
[06:05] <Juacom99> can anyopne help me find witch version of lubuntu i have (32 io 64 bits??)
[06:05] <Juacom99> please
[06:05] <fignew_> Juacom99: uname -m
[06:07] <Juacom99> that returm me i686
[06:07] <fignew_> 32 bits :)
[06:07] <Juacom99> thanks
[06:07] <Juacom99> XD
[06:08] <Juacom99> and if is a 64 bit what should it said??
[06:09] <fignew_> hmm
[06:09] <fignew_> amd64 (?)
[06:10] <fignew_> I think that's what it would have said
[06:10] <Juacom99> thanks ^
[06:10] <Juacom99> *^^
[06:11] <genii> Don't forget there is an intel 64 bit ;)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> we dont talk about that side of the Faimly. :)
[06:15] <llutz> wouldn't it give "x86_64" back?
[06:15] <Juacom99> lol Dr
[06:20] <Giksaw> hi everybody
[06:21] <Giksaw> I need some help
[06:21] <pag> !ask | Giksaw
[06:21] <ubotu> Giksaw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:22] <RATTT> does ubuntu have a character map?
[06:22] <fevel> hello
[06:22] <Giksaw> ubuntu: good call
[06:22] <RATTT> does kubuntu have a character map?
[06:22] <Giksaw> ubuntu: I just installed Kubuntu- Im trying to install Firefix
[06:23] <pag> Giksaw, ubotu's a bot ;)
[06:23] <fevel> does anyone know a utlity like the vista side panel that integrates with my wallpaper and that I could add functions to it?
[06:23] <PhinnFort> pag: ubuntu is not
[06:23] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:23] <fevel> like gdesklets
[06:23] <PhinnFort> fevel: superkaramba
[06:23] <pag> Giksaw, open Konsole and type in " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox "
[06:23] <PhinnFort> !superkaramba
[06:23] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:23] <fevel> PhinnFort: ok...ill take a look, thanks
[06:24] <PhinnFort> np
[06:24] <Giksaw> pag:bot?
[06:24] <pag> PhinnFort, oh... sorry, misread - guess I'm too tired to read correctly :)
[06:24] <pag> !bot | Giksaw
[06:24] <ubotu> Giksaw: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:24] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:24] <Giksaw> pag: Im new to this whole thing
[06:25] <pag> Giksaw, well.. basically ubotu is just a piece of software that gives information when told to do so.
[06:25] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: you query him with !<query>
[06:25] <Dr_willis> !botsnack
[06:25] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:26] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: and then he looks up a suiting reply in a database
[06:26] <Giksaw> pag: ok
[06:27] <pag> Giksaw, and about Firefox installation: eithe use the way I gave you couple lines ago, or open Adept Installer ( Add/Remove programmes(?) ) and install from there
[06:27] <acomaco> any way to reset all KDE settings?
[06:27] <pag> acomaco, any reason you want to do so?
[06:28] <acomaco> i just want the default settings since i'm to lazy to change it back manually
[06:29] <PhinnFort> acomaco: (re)move the ".kde" folder in your homefolder
[06:29] <pag> acomaco, oh... then log out of KDE and command " mv .kde .kde_backup "
[06:29] <PhinnFort> acomaco: I would suggest you move it
[06:29] <acomaco> okey
[06:29] <PhinnFort> acomaco: it contains all your passwords, settings, preferences, etc.
[06:29] <PhinnFort> and probably mail
[06:29] <acomaco> all passwords to?
[06:29] <PhinnFort> yearh
[06:29] <PhinnFort> *yeah
[06:30] <acomaco> any important passwords?
[06:30] <pag> acomaco, if you have saved any important ones, then yes - nothing system-critical though
[06:32] <acomaco> hehe okey thx
[06:33] <acomaco> ok tryin now <.<
[06:34] <deviance> I would like to forward my localhost on this machine to the internet. How would I do it? Is it a good idea?
[06:34] <deviance> Does it mean forwarding port 80?
[06:34] <Giksaw> pag: whats the difference between this Adept and command prompt- and how do I get to the command prompt
[06:34] <Giksaw> ?
[06:35] <pag> Giksaw, Adept is graphical...
[06:35] <pag> Giksaw, in theory they both work identically - personally I strongly dislike Adpet, but it's just my own opinion
[06:36] <Giksaw> pag, is firefox already comes with Kubuntu- and add/remove just installs it or when I click add/remove it is downloading it from the Internet?
[06:36] <acomaco> worked :d
[06:36] <acomaco> thx
[06:36] <pag> Giksaw, it'll download it.
[06:36] <pag> acomaco, np :)
[06:37] <Giksaw> pag, Im overwhelmed by this whole thing- linux
[06:38] <pag> Giksaw, just try not to think "why and how it works" just yet...
[06:38] <Giksaw> pag, who does Adept gets the information that a firefox installation is available on the Internet?
[06:38] <pag> Giksaw, Adept is just a graphical frontend of apt
[06:38] <PhinnFort> pag: for dpkg, anyways, afaik
[06:39] <Giksaw> pag, apt?
[06:39] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: it has a large database of all available applications
[06:39] <pag> !apt | Giksaw
[06:39] <ubotu> Giksaw: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:40] <Giksaw> !time
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: applications are packaged by so-called "packagers", who either just have too much spare time or work for Canonical
[06:41] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: then there's a lot of scripts and programs that sort through these and create databases and upload them to mirrors worldwide
[06:41] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: and every now and then your computer can update it's local database, to get information about updates to different applications, etc.
[06:42] <Giksaw> PhinnFort: canonical?
[06:42] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  so my computer has a database of available downloads from the Internet?
[06:42] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: yes
[06:42] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: or rather of packages available from the mirrors
[06:43] <pag> Giksaw, Company that owns the Ubuntu trademark and commercially supports it
[06:43] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  it comes with Kubunto installation- this database?
[06:43] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: yes
[06:43] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: you also have a database of currently installed applications that is compared to available packages, to see which one should be upgraded, etc.
[06:44] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  but it is compared automatically? I dont have a control when it is connected to the Internet???
[06:44] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: it should download automatically every now and then, when you have an internet connection, but you can also do it from adept
[06:44] <PhinnFort> manually
[06:45] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  but is it safe? I dont know what is the source of the isntallation
[06:45] <august_> Hey everyone.  Just wanted to know if someone could help me with a problem.  I have a problem making my computer to output on my tv.  Is there a button i should push or somewhere in the control panel i can click on so that the output can go to the tv?  On windows all you have to do is just right click on the screen and go to output and click on monitor.  I have a laptop by the way
[06:45] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: when it sees that a newer version of a package is available, it pops up an icons in the system tray, that tells you which programs are updatable
[06:45] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: all packages from the official sources are cryptographically signed
[06:45] <devious`> hi all
[06:46] <Giksaw> !system tray
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system tray - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <pag> Hello devious` :)
[06:46] <Giksaw> PhinnFort: what is system tray?
[06:46] <devious`> a question: when i was installing kubuntu, i denied the use of paging file, since i have 2Gb RAM.. Is that a good idea or not? If not, can i change that now?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: it's what holds those small icons for different programs
[06:47] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: down right on the screen, besides the clock
[06:47] <devious`> (i did not create a partition for pagina file)
[06:47] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  sorry, so far I used windows- I hope I dont bother too much with all these questions
[06:47] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: nono, it gives me a good reason to not work on what I should do;)
[06:47] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: you have a system tray on windows too
[06:48] <pag> devious`, you can change it afterward (don't ask *me* how :P ), and it's reccomended to have al least 256MB for swap
[06:48] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  ok- I just wasnt familiar with the name
[06:48] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  and what should u do now instead?
[06:48] <fevel> hey guys, my laptops wifi connects to the network I set up when I used ubuntu, now that im on kde I cant search for networks around or anything...is there a tool to do that or did I miss it on knetworkmanager?
[06:48] <hero> how do you disable the float-over descriptions on panel objects?
[06:49] <fevel> can someone please help me?
[06:49] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: discrete mathematics;)
[06:50] <aldanon> heya's all
[06:50] <aldanon> i'm still working on compiling this x-fi soundcard driver
[06:51] <aldanon> anyone interested in lending a hand with it?
[06:51] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  but how kubuntu recognizes that the update that is available comes from a safe source?
[06:51] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: it only downloads databases from addresses it knows is safe by default
[06:52] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: of course you can add unsafe sources, but then it should warn you that the packages you download are not signed by a trusted source
[06:52] <PhinnFort> if you don't tell it to trust that key, then you really don't know if it's safe;)
[06:52] <aldanon> is the other ubuntu channel ubuntu+1?
[06:52] <Giksaw> ok' and how do I know that kubuntu is safe?
[06:52] <aldanon> someone gave it to me last night but i forgot what it is
[06:53] <pag> aldanon, #ubuntu+1 is for Gutsy support
[06:53] <aldanon> cool thanks thats what i'm on
[06:53] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: you don't;)
[06:53] <aldanon> err well i'm on kubuntu
[06:53] <aldanon> ...but the driver i'm trying to compile..eh i was just led to ubuntu heh
[06:53] <njt88> hi
[06:54] <aldanon> you any good with compiling pag? =D
[06:54] <pag> hi njt88 :)
[06:54] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: the cd's also contain cryptographic checksums on them, so you can check the integrity of it, etc. but you ultimately put your trust in someone else
[06:54] <pag> aldanon, I had luck couple of times... :)
[06:54] <devious`> what is that webpage you can download themes for kubuntu to change apeareance?
[06:54] <pag> !themes | devious`
[06:54] <ubotu> devious`: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:54] <PhinnFort> devious`: kde-look.org
[06:54] <devious`> thank youi
[06:55] <aldanon> here's where i got the driver pag http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?searchString=XFiDrv_Linux
[06:55] <njt88> i had a power failure and things got corrupted.  ran fsck, corrected that stuff, but then had probs with kde:  kstartupconfig script is borked.  did a sudo apt-get install kde, and now kde at least starts up, but still geteting the error message (only dif is now kde starts)
[06:55] <njt88> question is, how do i get the kstartupconfig to regenerate? I did a mv kstartupconfig kstartupconfig.bak  but dont know what to do next
[06:56] <pag> aldanon, what problems do you have compiling? unmet depencies?
[06:56] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  and u trust kubuntu?
[06:57] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: of course
[06:57] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:57] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: mostly because everything they do, they do in the open
[06:57] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  do u do banking online with it?
[06:57] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: so I trust them more than Microsoft
[06:57] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: of course
[06:57] <aldanon> naw, in the end after 5 hours of working with it, it's looking like i need a vanilla kernel
[06:58] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  holw long they exist?
[06:58] <pag> aldanon, that sounds far too complicated for my skills - sorry.
[06:58] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: canonical has been around for many years
[06:59] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  and what their motive to support that? are they getting any income out of it?
[06:59] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: they sell support, etc. and they have a large deal with dell, amongst others
[06:59] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: it's founded by Mark Shuttleworth, who also founded Thawthe Security (which your bank may use)
[07:00] <deviance> Is the application finder called kappfinder
[07:00] <PhinnFort> deviance: yeah
[07:00] <aldanon> i understand pag
[07:00] <PhinnFort> I don't
[07:01] <aldanon> i'm no expert, in fact i'm quite new at this heh...just had a lot of help last night hehe
[07:01] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  why it seems that kubuntu works slower than xp? also firefox
[07:02] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  it thinks a lot
[07:02] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: do you have the right graphics card drivers installed?
[07:02] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: which version of kubuntu are you using?
[07:02] <SlimeyPete> Firefox is quite a slow program
[07:02] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: if you use gutsy, strigi will probably hog some cpu the first minutes/hours
[07:02] <Tonren> Has anyone had trouble recording in Audacity?
[07:03] <PhinnFort> Tonren: tried KRec?
[07:03] <ScorpKing> Tonren: does it pick up your soundcard?
[07:04] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  I just clicked on help under k menu, it took 5 seconds to open it. it cannot be this situation
[07:04] <Giksaw> I use 7. something
[07:04] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: the Help reader is slow
[07:04] <Tonren> On record, I can see the Microphone monitor go up and down.  On playback, I can see the speaker monitor go up and down.  However, no other indications of sound being recorded are there (no waveform appears).
[07:04] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: type /sysinfo and hit enter
[07:04] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  in that chat?
[07:04] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: yes
[07:04] <Giksaw> /sysinfo
[07:05] <PhinnFort> Sysinfo for 'lejon': Linux 2.6.22-12-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Duo CPU     T7500  @ 2.20GHz at 800 MHz (4389 bogomips), HD: 68/89GB, RAM: 689/2006MB, 131 proc's, 45.18min up
[07:05] <PhinnFort> no space before it
[07:05] <aldanon> so any compiling wizards in the house?
[07:06] <Tonren> Actually...
[07:06] <pag> Giksaw, which program are you using? (Kopete / Konversation / other)
[07:06] <Tonren> PhinnFort: ScorpKing: Audacity isn't playing properly.  I can load an MP3 and see the waveforms, and when I play, I see the speaker monitor move, but no sound is actually coming out.
[07:06] <PhinnFort> Tonren: have you tried the program KRec?
[07:06] <pag> Tonren, disable KDE sound server
[07:07] <Tonren> pag: How do I do that?
[07:07] <ScorpKing> Tonren: also check your audio settings under audacity.
[07:08] <pag> Tonren, kcontrol -> sound & multimedia -> sound system -> uncheck "Enable Sound System"
[07:08] <Giksaw> pag:  kopete
[07:08] <Tonren> Oh wait, Audacity is now playing properly--I had to set Record and Playback both to /dev/dsp
[07:08] <ScorpKing> :D
[07:08] <pag> Tonren, nice to hear that :)
[07:08] <ScorpKing> Tonren: what version is that?
[07:08] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  /sysinfo works?
[07:09] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: just type in "/sysinfo" here, without any spaces before or after
[07:09] <PhinnFort> or just tell me the specs on your computer
[07:09] <pag> Giksaw, PhinnFort: /sysinfo is Konversation command iirc..
[07:09] <PhinnFort> yeah
[07:09] <Tonren> ScorpKing: Audacity 1.2.6
[07:09] <PhinnFort> script even
[07:10] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: what else is slow?
[07:10] <Tonren> pag: What is the KDE soudn Server, exactly?
[07:10] <hydrogen> a bitrotted piece of software
[07:10] <ScorpKing> Tonren: oh ok.
[07:10] <PhinnFort> Tonren: hit alt+f2 and type in "kcontrol", and hit enter
[07:10] <hydrogen> that deserves to be thrown out a seventh or eighth story window
[07:10] <hydrogen> at the very least
[07:11] <Semmi> hi
[07:11] <PhinnFort> and search for sound server
[07:11] <PhinnFort> hydrogen: arts isn't that bad;)
[07:11] <hydrogen> PhinnFort: sure it is
[07:11] <Semmi> can someone help me with autofs
[07:11] <PhinnFort> it only hangs randomly, eats resources for nothing, eats battery, etc
[07:11] <hydrogen> PhinnFort: it rarely works, it hasn't been maintained for a number of years
[07:11] <Semmi> after installing 7.10 beta it doesnt work the way it did before
[07:11] <hydrogen> anyways
[07:11] <hydrogen> off to that class thing
[07:11] <PhinnFort> hydrogen: it does receive patches every now and then, latest to remove some polling
[07:11] <PhinnFort> hydrogen: what class?
[07:11] <Tonren> PhinnFort: Don't worry--I have Kcontrol in my panel anyway.  I'm just curious as to what the sound server is, exactly.
[07:11] <Semmi> doenst mount my nfs "drives"
[07:12] <PhinnFort> Tonren: it's called Arts
[07:12] <PhinnFort> !arts
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <PhinnFort> Tonren:
[07:12] <Semmi> mounting by console works
[07:12] <PhinnFort> Tonren: it's a buggy piece of software, that plays sound, basically
[07:12] <Tonren> Hey wait, I've made some progress
[07:12] <PhinnFort> Tonren: it's a "server", since it always is in the background, waiting for sound to play
[07:12] <Tonren> I turned off the Sound Server
[07:13] <Giksaw> /sysinfo
[07:13] <Tonren> And now, when I record in Audacity, there's an itty-bitty tiny waveform, and when I play it back, I can just BARELY hear what I recorded, but there's a high-pitched whine/buzz over it
[07:13] <Giksaw> PhinnFort:  I typed it
[07:14] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: do you know the specifications for your computer (processor speed, ram size, etc.)
[07:14] <PhinnFort> ?
[07:14] <Tonren> PhinnFort: ScorpKing: pag: Okay... running with "aoss audacity" gets rid of the whine/buzz, but I can still barely hear my recordings.
[07:14] <Semmi> does someone know wheateher auto.master has to be executable?
[07:14] <Giksaw> 1 gig cpu
[07:14] <Giksaw> PhinnFort: 1 giga RAM
[07:15] <ScorpKing> Tonren: set the volume in Kmix
[07:15] <Tonren> ScorpKing: All of my input volumes are maxed out
[07:15] <PhinnFort> Giksaw: it shouldn't be too bad, but if you feel that KDE/Kubuntu is too slow, you should give Xubuntu/XFCE a try/spin
[07:15] <Giksaw> PhinnFort: what is that?
[07:16] <Tonren> Giksaw: Xubuntu is another flavor of Ubuntu that runs with the Xfce desktop environment & window manager.
[07:16] <clyrrad> something is messed with my APT - can anyone make sense of this? http://rafb.net/p/WxXfiA36.txt
[07:17] <clyrrad> Looks like I have some kind of circular dependency, and apt-get -f install does not work
[07:17] <Tonren> Giksaw: It's generally meant for older computers that can't handle Ubuntu/Kubuntu's system requirements, but some people prefer it anyway for its somewhat minimalistic approach.
[07:18] <Semmi> whats the default password for root login after installation?
[07:18] <Semmi> !root
[07:18] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:18] <Tonren> clyrrad: Have you done an apt-get update recently?
[07:18] <clyrrad> Tonren: Yup sure have
[07:18] <Giksaw> PhinnFort: ok- nevermind. what was the /sysinfo intended for?
[07:18] <Tonren> Semmi: root commands are run by using the "sudo" command and entering your own password
[07:18] <Semmi> sudo cd??
[07:18] <Tonren> Semmi: You can also get to a root console by typing "sudo su", but generally people don't recommend this.
[07:19] <Chousuke> Semmi: no
[07:19] <Tonren> Semmi: You shouldn't need to run sudo just to change directories, no.
[07:19] <Chousuke> Tonren: sudo -i or sudo -s is better
[07:19] <Tonren> Chousuke: Ah-didn't know that.  Thanks!
[07:19] <Chousuke> Tonren: and sudo cd is pointless anyway
[07:19] <Semmi> just need it for testing autofs
[07:19] <Semmi> wheter there is an affect or not
[07:19] <Tonren> Chousuke: I'm aware.
[07:19] <Chousuke> Tonren: try sudo cd:ing to some directory. it just doesn't work :)
[07:19] <clyrrad> Tonren: Its like there is some sort of circular dependecy on this APT, its definaly broken, I dont know how to fix it.  I need to be able to remove these affected dependencies - but the millon dollar question is HOW?
[07:20] <Tonren> Chousuke: I wasn't the one talking about sudo'ing cd, dude.  :P
[07:20] <Semmi> ah thx
[07:20] <Tonren> clyrrad: You use apt-get, not aptitude, right?
[07:20] <clyrrad> correct
[07:20] <Dalton> anyone here running vmware workstation 6 on kubuntu 7.10 beta?
[07:20] <Tonren> clyrrad: Hmm...
[07:21] <Tonren> clyrrad: Maybe if you tried uninstalling adobereader-enu?
[07:21] <Tonren> So, anyone have any hints about my Audacity problems?  The recording volume simply won't rise up enough to be workable.
[07:21] <clyrrad> Tonren: that is what i am doing - see my paste http://rafb.net/p/WxXfiA36.txt very first line
[07:21] <clyrrad> Tonren: I cant remove it - it wont let me
[07:21] <Tonren> clyrrad: Oh dear, sorry--not sure how I missed that.
[07:21] <clyrrad> Yes, thats why i am here.......
[07:21] <Tonren> clyrrad: Try using aptitude instead.
[07:21] <clyrrad> hoping somoene can help me
[07:22] <Tonren> clyrrad: For these particular commands, I mean.
[07:23] <clyrrad> Tonren: is does not matter what I use, the system keeps wanting to install acroread - but it cant be installed becase of the dependency issues I pasted
[07:24] <clyrrad> How can i force remove adobereader-enu............
[07:24] <clyrrad> this is the package / problem thats messed up my APT
[07:24] <clyrrad> I need to some how remove that, but apt-get remove does not work due to the dependecny problem
[07:25] <Giksaw> /message nickserver help
[07:25] <pag> clyrrad, tried " sudo dpkg -r adobereader-enu && sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[07:25] <Tonren> clyrrad: maybe apt-get --purge remove, just throwing out ideas here
[07:25] <Tonren> clyrrad: Also ask in Ubuntu as well
[07:25] <ScorpKing> Tonren: try to munte the unused ones. not sure what else can work.
[07:25] <Tonren> #ubuntu, I meant
[07:25] <Giksaw> /message nickserve help
[07:25] <clyrrad> pag: trying that now
[07:25] <llp78> hello everyone - does anyone know what program i could use to convert a flac to mp3 in kubuntu ?
[07:26] <pag> llp78, sounkonverter is nice
[07:26] <lovre> hi all
[07:26] <pag> llp78, but you'll need lame to encode mp3
[07:26] <llp78> pag: is it GUI?
[07:26] <lovre> im back with some more questions
[07:26] <Giksaw> /m nickserv help
[07:26] <pag> lovre, yup - it is
[07:27] <lovre> how do i change my kubuntu apearence? I downloaded a theme from www.kde-look.org, but i dont know how to apply it. Any tips?
[07:27] <Giksaw> /messssage nickserv help
[07:27] <llp78> pag:i know but the flac file is too big for my phone's sd card
[07:27] <llp78> pag: im gonna try that now thanks for your quick response
[07:28] <pag> llp78, np :)
[07:28] <Giksaw> /message nickserv help
[07:28] <pag> Giksaw, it's /msg NickServ help
[07:28] <ScorpKing> _ /msg nickserv help
[07:28] <uga> lovre: what theme is it... and more importantly, is it a kde theme, kde style, or kde windeco =)
[07:28] <clyrrad> pag: no luck http://rafb.net/p/cXvhH829.txt
[07:28] <clyrrad> Tonren: yes I tried both of those with no luck
[07:29] <Tonren> clyrrad: Sorry man, I got nothin'.
[07:29] <pag> clyrrad, how about sudo dpkg -r acroread-plugins
[07:29] <uga> lovre: they're completely differen things. Themes define a set of settings (colors, fonts, background image, style, windeco)
[07:29] <lovre> uga: i dont really know the difference between thoose....:()
[07:29] <llp78> pag: ive installed it but only allows to ogg not mp3 - ami missing something ?
[07:29] <lovre> uga: and styles?
[07:29] <pag> llp78, package called lame
[07:29] <uga> lovre: windecos are the drawings around your windows. The ones you use to maximise/minimise/got a title... etc
[07:29] <pag> !info lame | llp78
[07:30] <ubotu> llp78: lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[07:30] <Dr_willis> the 'window border widgets' :)
[07:30] <uga> lovre: and styles are the way everything is drawn: buttons, scrollbars, lists, ...
[07:30] <Semmi> is there anything else than autofs to mount nfs drives when needed
[07:30] <clyrrad> paq: you are the million dollar man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:30] <clyrrad> it worked!
[07:30] <clyrrad> thank-you so much :D
[07:30] <Dr_willis> Semmi,  i wonder if FUSE has a solution for that.. it has 10000000 other solutions for eveyrthing else. :)
[07:30] <ScorpKing> lovre: this is what my desktop looked like yesterday - http://profile.imageshack.us/user/scorpking/images/detail/#219/mydesktop2uq8.jpg
[07:31] <pag> clyrrad, np :)
[07:31] <llp78> pag: your skills are amazing, cheers dude much much thanks
[07:31] <clyrrad> pag: that was driving me absolutly nutz!!!!!!!!
[07:31] <uga> ScorpKing: fugly =)
[07:31] <ScorpKing> lol :D
[07:31] <Giksaw> pag: how to I register the user name?
[07:31] <pag> !register | Giksaw
[07:31] <ubotu> Giksaw: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:32] <xenol> Hello all/
[07:32] <lovre> i downloaded this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT2-Theme?content=66685
[07:32] <lovre> how do i install it?
[07:32] <pag> Giksaw, I'd sugges you'd use Konversation instad of Kopete - Kopete isn't really a IRC-client
[07:32] <ScorpKing> hiya poison--. :)
[07:32] <Semmi> the drives just wont mount
[07:32] <Semmi> everything worked fine before changing to 7.10 beta
[07:32] <Semmi> mounting via console works
[07:32] <Semmi> just that fkn autofs
[07:33] <Giksaw> pag: is konversation free?
[07:33] <deviance> Yes
[07:33] <pag> Giksaw, free as in beer and speech - and it's there by default :)
[07:33] <poison--> sup guys
[07:33] <ScorpKing> Giksaw: yes and installed by default
[07:34] <Dr_willis> I perfer Free as in Love. :)
[07:34] <Giksaw> pag: ok Im connecting
[07:34] <epsilorn> hi all! I've got a pair of problems on kubuntu may I ask to you?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> Ever have a hard time trying to get a windows user to understand that  The 'Openoffice.org' cd you are giving him is LEGAL? :)
[07:35] <deviance> Shoot epsilorn
[07:35] <Dr_willis> 'how can they just give it away....' :)
[07:35] <pag> !ask | epsilorn
[07:35] <ubotu> epsilorn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:35] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: i gave up trying. they just don't get it.
[07:36] <giksaw_> pag: ?
[07:36] <epsilorn> ok i've got an ATI hd 2400 it seems working 'cause fglxgears run smoothly, the problem is when i start openarena it runs well but when i try to change video setting it crashes
[07:36] <Dr_willis> Then they try it.. and ((#&@&@ that its not identical to Office.. :)
[07:36] <Dr_willis> but then you explain that  they now have $200+ more in their pocket.
[07:36] <ScorpKing> yeah
[07:36] <pag> giksaw_, you should probably close Kopete and then command /nick Giksaw  in Konversation
[07:36] <lovre> i downloaded this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT2-Theme?content=66685
[07:36] <lovre> how do i install it?
[07:37] <poison--> HI Dr_willis
[07:37] <Tonren> I'm trying to record in Audacity.  All of my input volumes are maxed out (in my ALSA mixer and in Audacity itself), but I can still barely hear my recordings.
[07:38] <poison--> BRB
[07:38] <ScorpKing> lovre: there is a few things you still have to download and do.
[07:38] <lovre> ScorpKing: what are those things?
[07:39] <lovre> ScorpKing: sory for bothering
[07:39] <ScorpKing> lovre: gimme a sec. just checking something...
[07:40] <ScorpKing> lovre: i'll walk you through it.
[07:40] <llp78> pag: do you know why i cant load flac files into soundKonverter ?
[07:40] <ScorpKing> lovre: go to konsole and type sudo aptitude install kbfx
[07:40] <lovre> ScorpKing: im sorry, i have to go afk for a while, will you be here later? sorryyyyy
[07:41] <giksaw_> pag, how do I change back the nick
[07:41] <ScorpKing> yes
[07:41] <epsilorn> Hi all, got a problem: i've got an ATI hd 2400 it seems working 'cause fglxgears run smoothly, the problem is when i start openarena it runs well but when i try to change video setting it crashes
[07:41] <pag> llp78, you should be able to...
[07:41] <llp78> not a supported file type :-(
[07:41] <pag> giksaw_, /nick DesiredNick
[07:41] <lovre> ScorpKing: thank you very much, il be back later
[07:41] <ScorpKing> np :D
[07:41] <Lovre`bbiab> bbiab
[07:41] <giksaw_> it says it is already in use
[07:42] <giksaw_> pag, it says it is in use
[07:42] <pag> giksaw_, do you still have Kopete open?
[07:42] <giksaw_> I closed it
[07:42] <giksaw_> pag, I closed it
[07:43] <pag> giksaw_, check in tray ;) KDE usually just minimises apps there
[07:43] <Giksaw> pag, ok
[07:44] <pag> llp78, do you have " flac " installed?
[07:44] <pag> Giksaw, then you should look at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration for information and instructions on user registartion
[07:45] <ubuntu__> hye
[07:46] <adlisyakir> hye
[07:46] <adlisyakir> how to create dual boot like using vista and kubuntu?
[07:46] <llp78> pag: is that an extrapackagelike Lame ?i can play the flac files -
[07:46] <adlisyakir> why.. i 'm try with install windows first.. and then kubuntu, its not show me dual boot to choose
[07:47] <adlisyakir> so, try n try... many times.. it still same
[07:47] <pag> llp78, I'm not sure.. I just have a feeling, that that package might be important :)
[07:47] <llp78> pag :-) just installing
[07:48] <llp78> llp78 oh look its working - thanks genius
[07:48] <JuJuBee> How do I share a USB printer connected to my computer?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> JuJuBee,  to a windows machine. Use samba
[07:53] <acemo> should ftp be able to transfer a zip file in ascii mode?
[07:54] <JuJuBee> nm, I got it.  needed to set up cups server...
[07:54] <JuJuBee> Thanks Dr. Willis.
[07:55] <Dr_willis> acemo,  for binary files. You want to enable binary mode. I recall.. from ages ago...
[07:55] <Dr_willis> havent heard about binary/ascii file transfers/modes in years.. :P
[07:56] <acemo> Dr_willis: tnx, i just need to implement the minimum of the ftp rfc, wich says ascii mode, but i was afraid i did something wrong because zip file didnt went too well
[07:59] <fevel_> hey...can I change the font collor of the taskbar?
[07:59] <pag> fevel_, ink KDE 3.5.7 you can :)
[08:02] <ilia> hi there need help with USB automount
[08:05] <Riddell> Riderxsjado23: hmm?
[08:06] <fevel_> Pag: how?
[08:08] <hero> how do you disable the float-over descriptions on panel objects?
[08:08] <Dalton> is there a how-to to put 7.10 on a usb key?
[08:10] <giksaw>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY savicevic1
[08:10] <fevel_> thanks for your password
[08:10] <fevel_> hope youdont use it for everything
[08:10] <fevel_> lol
[08:11] <llp78> oh no
[08:11] <llp78> :-)
[08:12] <fevel_> anyone know how I can change the font collor for the taskbar?
[08:12] <giksaw> oops
[08:13] <Third_Paradox> hi all, I have a problem with apt-get, I keep trying to install stuff and it spits back Error 1 all the time, not even sudo "dpkg --configure -a" is helping, it keeps saying dependency problems...
[08:14] <Third_Paradox> is this the right place to ask for help?
[08:14] <Third_Paradox> *sudo dpkg --configure -a*
[08:15] <giksaw> ?
[08:18] <Third_Paradox> can anyone help me or point me somewhere whereI can ge help?
[08:19] <Third_Paradox> all the forums I've looks at arn't to helpful andd this is kinda urgent - any help would be greatly appreciated
[08:19] <Third_Paradox> :)
[08:20] <llp78> Third_Paradox: out the box apt-get works perfect on a clean install - how did this error occur
[08:20] <Third_Paradox> trying to install qt
[08:20] <Third_Paradox> and then tetex-base
[08:21] <Third_Paradox> it's having problems with linux-image-something
[08:21] <Third_Paradox> and now all the tetex dependencies
[08:22] <Third_Paradox> I need to do a 'reset' on my packages or something (at least I think)
[08:24] <Third_Paradox> i can get the package names but i don'ty think it's the packages specificaally that are the problem (thx for any help btw)
[08:29] <monolith> Does KWallet actualy encrypt passwords?
[08:29] <monolith> Or any other data you store in it
[08:32] <herchu-1234> hi there. I am playing with my network settings  for a laptop. I configured wired and wireless following this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539. I have just one question: If I do '/etc/init.d/networking restart', with my current settings (dhcp for both wired and wireless), it tries for about a minute to get a dhcp on eth0, with the cable unplugged. Is it there a way to detect there is no cable and abandon dhcp?
[08:33] <bigleon> Hello, anybody got any recommondationis for alternatives for K-torrent, i'm getting crashes, and files that when started crash the app.
[08:37] <slackern> bigleon: maybe deluge-torrent?
[08:37] <emilsedgh> bigleon: azereus?
[08:40] <bigleon> i heard about deluge, is that really as good as people claim?
[08:40] <bigleon> i heard it was suppose to put Utorrent to shame
[08:41] <slackern> bigleon: i haven't tried the latest versions of it, right now im using ktorrent from the gutsy repos and that works great for me
[08:42] <bigleon> mine has gone wack on my saying .torrents are torrent files -.-
[08:42] <bigleon> aren't*
[08:43] <slackern> bigleon: hmm no idea what could be causing it either =/
[08:43] <bigleon> Yeah... really disappointing i've been starting to like ktorrent other than fact that it doesn't seem to go aboe 50kb/s on an internet that peaks at over 1800
[08:45] <bigleon> although i'm sure college network isn't helping lol
[08:45] <bigleon> oh and i keep getting this error about not being able to write files...
[08:46] <navets> hello
[08:46] <slackern> bigleon: i get around 3.5 megabytes/sec with ktorrent here and that is about the max i can get during daytime, haven't tried so much during late nights when the network isn't so congested
[08:46] <bigleon> i'd be happy with 1mbs lol
[08:47] <slackern> bigleon: oh i mostly was meaning that the software can handle higher speeds than 50kb/s so to say
[08:48] <bigleon> i figured so... I don't think it's a seed problem either, because i'm doing about 15 dls at a time
[08:48] <bigleon> between 15 i should be able to get atleast a little more
[08:48] <slackern> bigleon: personally i haven't noticed any difference between rtorrent/utorrent/ktorrent/azureus/deluge
[08:49] <bigleon> just installed deluge and it won't even start up... so i guess i'm stuck with ktorrent
[08:50] <slackern> bigleon: =/
[08:50] <bigleon> Gah, i've been noticing it alot 1/5 programs seem to ever work after installing...
[08:51] <slackern> bigleon: and here i am running gutsy without any problems :), not in kde though since i felt like giving gnome a little spin for the new release
[08:52] <bigleon> I can't stand gnome... kde strong...
[08:52] <bigleon> I got over 20gb's of music on here... don't really want to manually add my cds again... to upgrade to gutsy
[08:53] <slackern> bigleon: personally i prefer kde also but i do enjoy varying from DE to DE, haven't used a simple WM for a long time though, maybe i should play a little with fluxbox again :)
[08:54] <bigleon> I'm still waiting on ati to pump out there new uber linux friendly driver this month i'm excited
[08:55] <slackern> bigleon: aye it could be nice, i have a x1950 pro card myself so im stuck with some pain here too, but im running the opensource radeonhd driver right now
[08:55] <bigleon> i got an Mobile x1400 and well i can't do shit for 3d or anything for that mater stuck at 1200X800 on my 21 inch widescreen laptop
[08:56] <slackern> bigleon: hmm maybe you can try the opensource driver, which chip is it on the x1400?
[08:56] <bigleon> Not sure
[08:56] <slackern> bigleon: just a min will check
[08:56] <bigleon> Ati radeon is all i know
[08:57] <kaminix> How can I re-encode from .sub -> .srt?
[08:58] <slackern> bigleon: do a lspci -v and check the device id of your card, if it says 7145 it could work
[08:59] <bigleon> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT Expr
[08:59] <bigleon> ess Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[09:00] <bigleon> one sec i'm an idiot
[09:00] <bigleon> lol
[09:00] <slackern> hehe
[09:00] <bigleon> kk found vid card
[09:01] <bigleon> where is the number i'm looking for?
[09:01] <slackern> under a line such as this one 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV570 [Radeon X1950 Pro]  there should be something about device and then a 4 letter number
[09:03] <Kachna> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087051.0;prev_next=prev#new
[09:03] <bigleon> http://paste-it.net/3788
[09:03] <bigleon> look at that
[09:03] <slackern> bigleon: aye thats it, let me check the device id list in the code
[09:05] <slackern> bigleon:  0x7145, 0x1028, 0x2002, "Dell Inspiron 9400", PANEL_B2_VGA_A0_DVI_A10 it's included here in the ID list so you could maybe try the opensource driver, it's not exactly fast, it's like running the vesa driver in it's current state
[09:05] <bigleon> see one i got is slow
[09:05] <slackern> bigleon: but maybe you get proper resolutions and stuff atleast?
[09:05] <bigleon> and doesnt' support 1400X900 res
[09:05] <bigleon> one i'm using is Fgrlx
[09:05] <bigleon> i think
[09:06] <slackern> bigleon: anyhow, you would have to compile it yourself and download the source code and stuff, maybe it's a little too much work, i don't know how much you want to mess with it either
[09:07] <slackern> there is also a channel here for the driver #radeonhd with all the driver developers in it
[09:07] <bigleon> Well i got all afternoon, but i'm not that bright when it comes to complining etc
[09:07] <slackern> bigleon: so you can talk to them directly
[09:13] <plukin> d
[09:16] <ScorpKing> u
[09:17] <ScorpKing> what program runs straight after login from kdm? after the auth stuff.
[09:33] <ScorpKing> Kachna: "(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom" might be fixed with - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0;topicseen
[09:35] <Kachna> ScorpKing: thx, was annoying :-) wanted to remove only these 1st 3 things,would fail a bit i see :-)
[09:36] <ScorpKing> :) np
[09:38] <uga> ScorpKing: I'd guess... startkde
[09:38] <ScorpKing> that's a script right?
[09:39] <uga> yes
[09:39] <uga> you can edit it
[09:39] <uga> bona tarda, tsdgeos
[09:40] <ScorpKing> thanks. found it - /usr/bin/startkde
[09:40] <tsdgeos> uga: i only know how to say bye in euskara, not hello :D
[09:40] <tsdgeos> kaixo!
[09:40] <uga> lol, kaixo
[09:40] <tsdgeos> i remembered
[09:40] <BluesKaj> howdy ?
[09:40] <BluesKaj> :)