[20:29] <ashams> thelinuxer, ding, what is happening now on your side? :)
[20:29] <thelinuxer> ashams: negotiating with wazery about the html templates for the email
[20:30] <ashams> ok
[20:30] <thelinuxer> wady Wazery geh
[20:30] <ashams> Hi Wazery o/
[20:30] <Wazery> aywaan
[20:30] <Wazery> ezyak ya ashams
[20:30] <ashams> cool, thnx God, you?
[20:30] <Wazery> el7am lelah
[20:31] <Wazery> el7amd*
[20:33] <thelinuxer> ashams: Wazery I was on the phone with jonathan
[20:33] <thelinuxer> he said the template will be ready tomorrow at about 1pm
[20:33] <thelinuxer> is that ok ? postpone the announcement till tomorrow 1pm ?
[20:33] <Wazery> aked wala maw3edo zayee :D
[20:33] <thelinuxer> Wazery: lool
[20:33] <Wazery> :d
[20:33] <thelinuxer> walahi dah mawdoo3 mesh akeed ba2a
[20:33] <ashams> thelinuxer, why we need that template?
[20:34] <thelinuxer> bas i will send it anyway if I don't get the template
[20:34] <thelinuxer> ashams: just to look professional
[20:34] <thelinuxer> and make the email more appealing
[20:34] <Wazery> ah
[20:35] <ashams> I think Jonathan will do it on time or maybe a couple of hours later
[20:35] <ashams> I'm not sure if we should wait
[20:35] <Wazery> ashams, I think it is better to wait
[20:36] <thelinuxer> I myself didn't want to wait
[20:36] <ashams> me neither :(
[20:36] <ashams> we'll need to post it to our blogs
[20:36] <thelinuxer> yes exactly
[20:36] <ashams> to find something to share on fb and G+
[20:36] <thelinuxer> that's y we want it to be done right
[20:37] <thelinuxer> it's not everyday we announce something like this!
[20:37] <ashams> yeah
[20:37] <Wazery> btw
[20:37] <Wazery> g+ got 800 +1
[20:37] <ashams> cool :)
[20:37] <ashams> thelinuxer, can you syndicate your blog to the loco planet?
[20:38] <thelinuxer> Wazery: gr8!
[20:38] <ashams> and you too ya wazery :)
[20:38] <thelinuxer> ashams: but it will take me some time
[20:38] <Wazery> ashams, ma3ndesh blog :D
[20:38] <thelinuxer> I would need a mug shot
[20:38] <Wazery> kan 3andy wa7da adeeema
[20:38] <thelinuxer> and I was actually thinking about moving my blog to blogger
[20:39] <ashams> :D
[20:39] <ashams> thelinuxer, no need ya man
[20:39] <thelinuxer> no need for what ? I don't like the current state of my blog el sara7a
[20:39] <thelinuxer> needs some revamping
[20:39] <thelinuxer> not just content problems
[20:40] <ashams> thelinuxer, try WooThemes :D
[20:40] <thelinuxer> drupal 7 ?
[20:40] <thelinuxer> wordpress ..
[20:40] <ashams> nope
[20:40] <ashams> yes, wp
[20:40] <thelinuxer> my blog is drupal
[20:40] <ashams> why you have a drupal blog aslan
[20:40] <thelinuxer> again this is another option :D
[20:41] <thelinuxer> wp or drupal or blogger ?
[20:41] <thelinuxer> because most of my circle are drupal developers
[20:41] <ashams> blog on drupal, 7araaaaam
[20:41] <thelinuxer> so u think I should move it to wordpress
[20:41] <thelinuxer> ?
[20:41] <ashams> yes sure
[20:42] <ashams> get a wp tarball and upload it there
[20:42] <thelinuxer> Wazery: can u create a mug shot for me ?
[20:42] <thelinuxer> ashams: what do u mean upload it there ?
[20:42] <ashams> you can try wp-admin on my blog if you want to see it working
[20:42] <Wazery> thelinuxer, ok
[20:43] <ashams> thelinuxer, upload to your space
[20:43] <ashams> on the server
[20:43] <thelinuxer> ashams: i checked it long ago, I mainly used drupal because it was more secure
[20:44] <ashams> man, howa 7ad bezorha lamma 7'ayef 7ad yeCrackha :P
[20:44] <thelinuxer> maho enta ba2a fahem el 3o2ad we keda :D
[20:45] <thelinuxer> Wazery: tayeb el mugshot me7tag menny eih feeha ?
[20:45] <Wazery> howa kan fe 7aga 3'er el mugshot
[20:45] <Wazery> msh faker esmaha
[20:45] <ashams> thelinuxer, never try to use the one on you fb profile
[20:45] <Wazery> hacker 7aga bayen
[20:46] <Wazery> zy deh https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/38012_414233098229_729453229_4703392_4260795_n.jpg
[20:47] <Wazery> Hackergotchi ah :)
[20:47] <thelinuxer> Wazery: hackergotchi
[20:47] <Wazery> eh ra2yak ?
[20:47] <thelinuxer> ashams: can't understand. r u telling me to try to use it or not to use it ?
[20:48] <thelinuxer> Wazery: what's the difference ?
[20:48] <ashams> akeed no :)
[20:48] <Wazery> 7asb wikipedia mugshot deh 7aga tanya
[20:48] <Wazery> 3moman ha3lha
[20:48] <Wazery> ha3mla*
[20:48] <thelinuxer> ashams: howa eih ely no :D ?
[20:48] <thelinuxer> ashams: ah ur saying I shouldn't use it
[20:48] <thelinuxer> what's wrong with it ?
[20:49] <thelinuxer> Wazery: eshta thanks man
[20:49] <ashams> thelinuxer, oh god, don't use it :)
[20:49] <thelinuxer> Wazery: which pic are you going to use ?
[20:49] <thelinuxer> pm me the link
[20:49] <Wazery> msh 3aref lesa
[20:49] <Wazery> hashof aho
[20:49] <thelinuxer> eshta
[20:52] <Wazery> fel 3aleb deh https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188685_5996118151_741808151_198471_2222_n.jpg
[20:53] <thelinuxer> dude I said pm me the link :D
[20:53] <Wazery> ops
[20:53] <thelinuxer> this will be forever on the logs
[20:53] <Wazery> oppps
[20:53] <Wazery> loooooooooool
[20:53] <thelinuxer> eih ra2yak ya ashams\
[20:53] <thelinuxer> ?
[20:53] <ashams> man, It's the best one
[20:54] <thelinuxer> tayeb go on ya Wazery I trust ur opinion on stuff like this
[20:54] <Wazery> ok
[20:55] <ashams> yes, he is like a guru on graphics, seriously
[20:55] <ashams> or it's me suck at graphics? :P
[20:55] <Wazery> la2 msh lel darga :D
[20:55] <ashams> yeah, me sucks :P
[20:55] <thelinuxer> it's both actually he is a guru and we totally sucj
[20:55] <thelinuxer> suck*
[20:56] <ashams> thelinuxer, what about this one: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150353559492602&set=t.741808151&type=3
[20:56] <ashams> or this one: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=127758707329110&set=t.741808151&type=3
[20:56] <thelinuxer> the second one is horrible!
[20:56] <Wazery> thelinuxer, kol el sowar ba2et logged :P
[20:57] <thelinuxer> first one might work, wazery  eih ra2yak ?
[20:57] <thelinuxer> lol
[20:57] <ashams> the 2nd is good 3ala fekra
[20:57] <thelinuxer> aiwa bas he didn't send the cdn link ;)
[20:57] <Wazery> thelinuxer, ah +1 for first one
[20:57] <thelinuxer> tayeb choose one we doos
[20:58] <thelinuxer> i still need to finish the email and finish my blog stuff
[20:58] <Wazery> ok
[20:58] <thelinuxer> thanks man
[20:59] <ashams> thelinuxer, regarding the first pic I suppose you were making her a deer, right?
[20:59] <thelinuxer> lool
[21:05] <thelinuxer> Wazery: ashams tayeb elections date ?
[21:06] <thelinuxer> ashams: we don't have a page for elections
[21:32] <ashams> thelinuxer, still here?
[21:32] <thelinuxer> yes
[21:33] <ashams> I think it can be good pre-release
[21:33] <thelinuxer> so I will wait for u to send me ur comments
[21:34] <ashams> we need to find a suitable date
[21:34] <thelinuxer> yes of course
[21:34] <thelinuxer> how about end of may ?
[21:34] <thelinuxer> mid may ..
[21:34] <thelinuxer> sa7ee7 did u see my email ?
[21:34] <ashams> nope
[21:34] <ashams> one sec
[21:36] <ashams> I may propose some lines to be added
[21:36] <ashams> for elections date
[21:36] <ashams> this should be a fixed elections date for future
[21:37] <ashams> I think mid may is tooo far
[21:37] <thelinuxer> tayeb maho delwa2ty we don't have enough time to make the elections by mid may aslan :)
[21:37] <ashams> why ya man
[21:38] <ashams> ppl will jump into membership fast
[21:38] <ashams> tayeb, what about opening for nomination on april 30
[21:38] <ashams> and elction from may 1st till ma7?
[21:39] <ashams> may*
[21:39] <ashams> the opening for nomination will make ppl hurray to membership :)
[21:40] <thelinuxer> ezay ya3ny?!
[21:40] <thelinuxer> I don't think this is gonna work
[21:40] <thelinuxer> people would need some time to finish their membership process
[21:40] <thelinuxer> creation of the application
[21:40] <thelinuxer> memberhsip meeting ..etc
[21:41] <thelinuxer> and I am not really sure if we will be able to cram everything into a single meeting
[21:41] <thelinuxer> I think we would need a couple of meetings at least
[21:41] <thelinuxer> so i think it would need at least 3-4 weeks from now
[21:42] <ashams> the problem I'm trying to avoid here is that fixed times shouldn't be too far from release
[21:42] <thelinuxer> yes i know
[21:42] <thelinuxer> but what can we do ?
[21:42] <thelinuxer> we can't do elections if we only have 3-4 members, that would feel strange el sara7a :D
[21:42] <thelinuxer> 3-4 members and 5 nominees :D
[21:43] <ashams> by 15 may there should be an elected council
[21:43] <ashams> man, I'll nominate many persons right after the announcement
[21:43] <ashams> and will help them personally
[21:43] <ashams> let's make our limit 10 members
[21:44] <ashams> and let's work to get them
[21:44] <thelinuxer> u'll nominate ?
[21:44] <ashams> yes, from 0 to hero
[21:44] <thelinuxer> what does that even mean ?
[21:44] <ashams> from nomination, through app creation, till meeting :)
[21:45] <thelinuxer> u mean nomination for membership ?
[21:45] <ashams> yes ya man :D
[21:45] <thelinuxer> and how is that 0 to hero ?
[21:45] <thelinuxer> ok i got what u meant
[21:46] <ashams> oh god
[21:46] <ashams> haha


[12:57] <AlanBell> with http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/europe/ is there a way to get a listing for just one country? Anyone know who the contact is for that application?
[12:58] <nigelb> AlanBell: someone from ISD should know.
[12:58] <nigelb> mhall119, newz2000 ^^
[13:02] <jpds> AlanBell: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/europe/#Bulgaria
[13:03] <AlanBell> interesting
[13:04] <AlanBell> can you put an anchor link in an iframe I wonder
[13:21] <AlanBell> I think the thing just needs enhancing
[13:22] <AlanBell> and integrating with loco.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <AlanBell> I want to see a page with a list of the UK marketplace and a google map alongside with where they all are
[17:27] <mhall119> cjohnston: nigelb: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/meeting-unicode-error/+merge/65810
[17:27] <mhall119> look! it even has a test case!
[17:29] <nigelb> mhall119: \o/
[17:30] <nigelb> mhall119: when you land tests into LD? Or is this first?
[17:31] <mhall119> first that I know of
[17:31] <nigelb> mhall119: You win. You get 100 internets :_)
[17:31] <nigelb> :-)
[17:35] <mhall119> oh great, where am I gonna put 100 internet?
[17:35] <mhall119> it's not like I have a truck I can just dump them into
[18:26] <cjohnston> nigelb: you should have given him 100 more bugs to fix
[18:27] <nigelb> cjohnston: deal :D


[02:07] <ludunde> Is anyone here familiar with writing Plasmoids?
[05:12] <PeterQ> facing trouble with kde logon using lightdm with kde greeter. logon screen switches back to konsole and freezes. x is started, lightdm is running. logon screen shows konosle with mouse pointer movable on it. any ideas?
[05:12] <PeterQ> its actually not konsole, instead its some kind of frozen window with kinda snapshot of konsole
[05:16] <PeterQ> hello?
[07:32] <soee> good morning
[08:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:19] <tux_> i make DNS host on www.noip.com , and forwarding port on modem, disable firewall on modem and PC now when i want ssh to my PC from internet with other client , i can't . ss
[11:20] <tux_> ssh say : Could not resolve hostname xx.ddns.net : name or server not know
[11:25] <lordievader> tux_: How recent is the domain-name?
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:11] <siwica> I am actually using ubuntu but using kubuntu at work now. I have two questions:
[14:12] <soee> hiho siwica
[14:12] <siwica> 1. how can I make kubuntu open a terminal when pressing Ctrl+Alt+t like in Ubuntu
[14:13] <siwica> 2. How can I snap windows using the keyboard (e.g Ctrl+Alt+Left for resizing it so it fill the left half of the screen)
[14:13] <soee> siwica: @1. check System Settings -> Shortcuts and play with global shortcuts
[14:14] <soee> siwica: for second also check shortcuts :)
[14:14] <siwica> soee: ok, thanks. I will take a look
[14:15] <soee> for windows switching and similiar stuff check Kwin section
[14:15] <soee> *in shortcuts
[14:37] <siwica> soee: ok, I got the snapping and window switching working. But I am strugglinggling with openening the terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T
[14:37] <siwica> Help appreciated!
[14:38] <hateball> siwica: it's in "custom shortcuts"
[14:38] <hateball> I think that'll be it in English
[14:39] <hateball> the literal translation from swedish locale is "personal webshortcuts"
[14:39] <hateball> alt+f2 -> type "web" and it should show I think
[14:40] <hateball> it also shows when typing "global" but it's not the global shortcuts...
[14:47] <siwica> I found the possibility to set a custom shortcut
[14:48] <siwica> however, entering /usr/bin/konsole does not work
[14:49] <hateball> siwica: just konsole is enough
[14:50] <hateball> it's also possible to rightclick and edit Kickoff and add a hotkey to a given entry there
[14:54] <teisei> Hello everyone! I have a question regarding the Folder View in Plasma 5. I am using "double click" to open folders and files in Dolphin, but despite this the Folder View widget keeps using the "one click" option
[14:54] <teisei> Is there any way to fix this?
[15:05] <arch_mac> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs  added  weekly ci ppa per the page steps but updating  gives 404 failed to fetch
[15:05] <arch_mac> old info?
[15:05] <arch_mac> im on 15.04
[17:37] <beluga> Riddell: VALS Semester of Code 2nd round is open for new organizations until Jan 13th. If Kubuntu wants to join, you can follow these instructions, only using http://vps2.semesterofcode.com/ where appropriate: http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/08/06/vals-semester-of-code-open-for-project-idea-submissions/
[21:00] <other_guy> Is anyone here using the Plasma 5 preview or the 15.04 Alpha?
[21:05] <other_guy> guess not :-)
[21:18] <arch_mac> updating vivid with kubuntu-ci daily breaks login   black screen up left blinking cursor
[21:26] <arch_mac> could not start ksmserver
[21:38] <arch_mac> login gives black screen   could not start ksmserver
[23:21] <RCDeet> is there a way to find out what is using a port and shut it down?
[23:54] <hggdh> lsof, sudo netstat -natp


[00:15] <Osmodivs_> Hello. I keep getting this error on my Webbrowers (Chromium and Firefox) skin color is wrong, red seem like blue and blue seems like red, What could be wrong here? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/31596
[00:16] <Unit193> Looks like that may be more of a flash issue than browser, or am I wrong?
[00:17] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, I guess, is there a way to solve this?
[00:18] <Unit193> Open a terminal and paste   dpkg -l |grep flash
[00:19] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, ii  flashplugin-installer                  <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>             Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[00:19] <Osmodivs_> ii  get-flash-videos                       1.25~git2011.09.26-2                    video downloader for various Flash-based video hosting sites
[00:20] <Unit193> !partner
[00:20] <Unit193> Then  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[00:59] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, Nope, still blue, I do not know whats wrong with flash, Is this a common bug/issue?
[01:01] <Unit193> http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, It worked!!
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> Unit193, How do you know so much?
[01:04] <Unit193> I don't know that much, many know more.
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> You have solved 2 problems in the same day
[01:04] <Osmodivs_> thx man.
[01:05] <Unit193> Glad you got it.
[01:12] <Sentynel> flash hardware acceleration seems to be unreliable as heck even on windows, for some reason =/
[01:23] <Unit193> And sadly, flash won't be going for a while yet.
[04:37] <bioterror> Evixion, behave!
[04:39] <Yos> yo bioterror :)
[04:39] <bioterror> hi
[04:39] <Yos> lubuntu looks great :)
[04:39] <bioterror> good
[06:19] <stevmmm> how long shudd lubuntu take to boot on a VM ?
[06:20] <stevmmm> got a thinkpad
[06:20] <stevmmm> 768MB RAM
[06:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> a few minutes
[06:25] <stevmmm> how much from a VM using a live CD. Still a few mins?
[06:25] <stevmmm> or more?
[06:27] <stevmmm> cd light seems to be on all the time
[06:27] <stevmmm> and mouse is fine in host machine, but wont move on the VM
[06:29] <stevmmm> (live cd is actually a mounted iso)
[06:37] <stevmmm> ok virtual box says the CD is still running half an hour later. (i assume the green light means running? whatever isgoing on is odd.
[06:38] <stevmmm> perhaps ill try again,allocate more mem to it
[06:38] <stevmmm> ...
[06:40] <jakob_l> have you verified the iso checksum?
[06:42] <stevmmm> no
[06:42] <stevmmm> i dled it from the lubuntu site
[06:42] <stevmmm> why need checksum?
[06:42] <mysteriousdarren> check integrity
[06:43] <stevmmm> ok
[06:44] <stevmmm> ill try that in a little while try a feww oter things first.
[06:47] <stevmmm> selecting the "CHECKDISK FOR DEFECTS" OPTION in the menu
[06:47] <stevmmm> will that include a checksum?
[06:50] <jakob_l> yes, I think that is a checksum test
[06:50] <stevmmm> ok - it said its fine
[06:50] <stevmmm> no errors found
[06:55] <jakob_l> could also be virtual box settings
[07:25] <Yos> what template should I use for creating my own wiki page with the goal of becoming a lubuntu member ?
[07:28] <Unit193> You look at a few and pick what one you like best.
[07:31] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ocean , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyHook and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/idleone are a few examples. ;)
[07:32] <Yos> yes, but I want to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/yosef.karo and it is asking me which template to use or to use a blank one
[07:33] <Yos> ah, I get it I think
[07:34] <Unit193> !membership
[07:38] <Yos> I got the impression it was easier to join lubuntu ;)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/981267/
[07:40] <Unit193> Yeah... Wording is always tricky, the first was a "Ubuntu Member", second is a (L)ubuntu team member.
[07:43] <Yos> I just want to be part of the lubuntu team, got to start somewhere :)
[07:45] <Unit193> Cool, well welcome then!
[07:46] <Yos> Thank you :)
[07:46] <Yos> I'm looking for ways to contribute if you know of any beginner friendly ways to get started
[07:49] <Unit193> There are many ways to contribute, doc/wiki is one good way.
[07:51] <Yos> I'd also like to get involved in testing and qa
[07:54] <Yos> failing here too
[08:50] <stevmmm> ok - slitaz works in vbox just fine. lubuntu doesnt. plenty of RAM allocated. Why the fail? Any ideas?
[08:51] <stevmmm> it hangs after taking ages to load the desktop and icons
[08:51] <bioterror> your vbox is broken. lots of people has tested lubuntu on vbox ;)
[08:52] <stevmmm> :(
[08:53] <stevmmm> SMBBUS BASE ADDRESS UNINITIALISED, upgrade bios of force add...
[08:53] <stevmmm> ?
[08:53] <stevmmm> during boot tolive cd in vbox
[08:58] <bioterror> http://www.puppychau.com/archives/62
[09:00] <stevmmm> thanx bio
[09:00] <bioterror> did it work?
[09:05] <stevmmm> not tried yet,when i do will advise
[09:06] <stevmmm> Error is caused by Ubuntu trying to load the smbus module which doesn’t exists in VirtualBox guest. It doesn’t seem to affect the function of the guest machine, but it’s kind of disconcerting having that error every time the machine starts up. <<<thats enough to tell me it doesnt matter
[09:07] <stevmmm> no need to try it - im really after understandunbg why the live cd wont work
[09:07] <stevmmm> and that clearly is the problem
[09:07] <stevmmm> *isnt
[09:07] <stevmmm> thanks anyway. its anoither possible cause eliminated
[09:13] <stevmmm> ok i can finally get lubuntu to load in the vm, but cant browse the web - it doesnt find web pages
[11:29] <gonk> Howdy, is the syna[ptic package manager the same as in ubuntu? can i get all the same programs?
[11:29] <Yos> looks the same to me :)
[11:30] <Yos> I just switched to lubuntu yesterday
[11:33] <dove_g1> gonk, in Lubuntu you have Lubuntu Software Center
[11:33] <dove_g1> synaptic is the same
[15:38] <pcman> hi
[15:39] <Yos> hello
[17:25] <Dago619> Anyone available?
[17:27] <bioterror> !ask | Dago619
[17:30] <Dago619> what are the minimum packages needed to run ubuntu-one? I want to keep my Thinkpad X120e (AMD E-240 processor) fast but want the convenience of Ubuntu-one.
[17:31] <bioterror> apt-cache depends ubuntu-one
[17:32] <shandell> Hello
[17:33] <shandell> I'm having a boot problem, can anyone help?
[17:33] <bioterror> give us more details
[17:34] <shandell> Of course :)
[17:35] <shandell> When I start the laptop (old Toshiba Satellite) I boot into lubuntu, then I get a blank screen with a blinky cursor line
[17:35] <shandell> after about 30-45 seconds I get this:
[17:36] <shandell> Busybox v1.18.4(Ubuntu 1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help for a list of built in commands (initramfs)
[17:37] <bioterror> mmmm
[17:37] <shandell> Then after a few seconds (I don't have time to read commands)
[17:37] <shandell> I get this:
[17:38] <shandell> udevd[##]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:###################### [180]
[17:38] <shandell> I few different number variations scroll
[17:38] <shandell> then I get:
[17:39] <bioterror> that's a fresh installation?
[17:39] <shandell> udevd[##]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:###################### [180] terminated by signal 9 (Killed)
[17:39] <shandell> Ummm I installed it about a month ago
[17:39] <shandell> That's the first time it's been shutdown
[17:40] <shandell> but it's been restarted over a dozen times
[17:40] <bioterror> and the lubuntu version is?
[17:40] <shandell> I think it's 11 or 12
[17:42] <shandell> I downloaded the boot and initrd files from the ubuntu distro repository and put them in the boot folder of the old system
[17:42] <shandell> Then I did a net install
[17:43] <bioterror> what
[17:46] <shandell> what...?
[17:46] <bioterror> you used live media to put that stuff into /boot ?
[17:49] <shandell> I downloaded the files from my computer and put them on a usb stick then I put them into /boot so that it would show up in the boot menu. The Toshiba had OpenSuSE on it at that time and my husband didn't like it at all
[17:49] <shandell> So I followed instructions online for a net install without booting from USB or CD because his computer can't do either
[17:50] <bioterror> you seem to have quite a mess there :P
[17:50] <shandell> And I couldn't get UnetBootin for it
[17:50] <bioterror> unetbootin is not needed nowdays
[17:50] <bioterror> you can just dd ;)
[17:50] <shandell> Oh man I had problems right from the start
[17:50] <shandell> dd?
[17:51] <bioterror> yep
[17:51] <shandell> I searched for a way to get it and I wasn't getting anywhere
[17:51] <bioterror> is it possible to reinstall your toshiba satellite?
[17:51] <shandell> After I installed lubuntu there was no GUI at all, only command lime
[17:51] <shandell> I don't know how to do it without accessing the OS GUI
[17:52] <bioterror> hmmm
[17:52] <bioterror> oh
[17:52] <shandell> I still have the boot and initrd on a USB somewhere lol But I'm not so familiar with the command line to add them to /boot that way
[17:53] <bioterror> do you have important stuff in your home directory?
[17:53] <shandell> Not really.... It's my husbands computer, I think he's got a few seasons of ER seeding
[17:53] <shandell> Oh!!
[17:54] <bioterror> but ER is important, if it has George Clooney episodes
[17:54] <shandell> That's right, he said that he's only got 2GB of space left on his HDD
[17:54] <shandell> LOL
[17:54] <shandell> Indeed :D
[17:54] <bioterror> or those noah wyle
[17:54] <shandell> It does lol the first 4 seasons I think
[17:54] <shandell> I know right :)
[17:54] <shandell> Anyway, would the limited space have anything to do with the startup?
[17:55] <bioterror> no
[17:55] <shandell> Hmmm
[17:55] <bioterror> 2GB is enuff
[17:55] <shandell> I thought so....
[17:55] <shandell> I'm guessing that from your question, I have to try and reinstall?
[17:56] <bioterror> it would be easiest way...
[17:56] <shandell> I will learn anything I have to, so as to prevent that
[17:56] <Listen1> Lubuntu 12.04 with PCManFM 0.9.10, unable to connect to Windoze shares
[17:56] <bioterror> Listen1, smb://ip.add.ress./share/ does not work?
[17:57] <Listen1> Checking
[17:57] <bioterror> shandell, I'm thinking if that could be saved with chroot somehow
[17:58] <shandell> bioterror, what specifically could be saved?
[17:58] <Listen1> bioterror: Yes, that works, but it worked without that before -- just by clicking
[18:00] <bioterror> that computer should then broadcast it shares to "network"
[18:00] <shandell> afk 5 min :)
[18:01] <Listen1> bioterror: In any case, thanks! it is really nice to have the workaround.
[18:01] <bioterror> Listen1, if you type just smb:///
[18:01] <bioterror> does it show you what?
[18:01] <Listen1> no
[18:02] <Listen1> bioterror: 'Failed to retrieve share list from server'
[18:03] <bioterror> is it windows machine or linux which is working as the samba server?
[18:04] <Listen1> bioterror: It is a Qnap NAS (Linux based)
[18:04] <shandell> back, but I can wait while you work that share problem out :) Want to roll a smoke anyway lol
[18:04] <bioterror> Listen1, can you restart the samba service?
[18:04] <Listen1> bioterror: and there are a number of Windoze machines on the lan
[18:05] <Listen1> bioterror: I'll give that a spin. Back later. Thanks.
[18:07] <shandell> back
[18:08] <bioterror> shandell, are you sure that the hard drive is not failing?
[18:09] <shandell> Oh yeah, I almost forgot :p After the udevd things stop, I can type commands like reboot. I don't know any others though.
[18:09] <bioterror> I would consider running some disk checks
[18:09] <shandell> would the memcheck in the boot menu do it?
[18:09] <shandell> I think it's memcheck...
[18:11] <shandell> How do I run a disk check?
[18:16] <shandell> bioterror..?
[18:16] <bioterror> shandell, I believe that the hard drive is failing
[18:16] <bioterror> and Is uggest to run some surface scans for it
[18:17] <shandell> Okay, how do I do that?
[18:17] <shandell> I've never had to do anything like this before...
[18:18] <shandell> It's currently displaying the boot menu
[18:18] <bioterror> sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdb1
[18:18] <bioterror> something like that
[18:19] <bioterror> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/37659/the-beginners-guide-to-linux-disk-utilities/
[18:19] <shandell> Will I be able to do that if I hit 'c' and the <grub> shows up?
[18:20] <shandell> I'll give your command a shot, hold on a sec...
[18:22] <bioterror> or if you can boot a usb or cd with ubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu or what ever linux distribution
[18:23] <shandell> Not possible:(
[18:23] <bioterror> as what I checked that your proble, there has been disk failures
[18:24] <shandell> I can't check from anywhere right now
[18:25] <shandell> I tried after the errors stopped and nothing, I also tried from the grub command line and I couldn't from there either
[18:26] <bioterror> you really need to boot into a working environment
[18:27] <shandell> That would help a lot :) Any ideas?
[18:28] <bioterror> use another computer to fix yourself a working ubuntu installation media, for example
[18:30] <shandell> Okay, I have the help commands for initramfs
[18:31] <shandell> a couple look promising, chroot, mount, unmount, test....
[18:32] <shandell> The Toshiba can't boot from CD or USB, we've tried :( That's why everything so far has been net installed
[18:33] <gordonjcp> shandell: take the disk out, install lubuntu on it, put it back
[18:33] <gordonjcp> simple
[18:33] <shandell> You mean the HDD?
[18:34] <gordonjcp> yes
[18:34] <gordonjcp> if the target machine is being a bitch take it out of the equation
[18:36] <shandell> Okay I'll try, brb and thanks bioterror and gordonjcp :D
[18:39] <bioterror> gordonjcp, it's a laptop
[18:40] <bioterror> but weird computer if it cant boot a CD
[18:42] <gordonjcp> bioterror: and...?
[18:42] <gordonjcp> pull the drive, stick it in something sane, install your OS
[18:42] <gordonjcp> it may have a weirdass BIOS, Toshiba are *notorious* for that
[18:43] <bioterror> yeah, I had one back in the 2006 as a work laptop
[18:43] <bioterror> and yes, I trashed it :D
[18:58] <shandell> bioterror?
[18:58] <bioterror> yes?
[18:58] <shandell> I'm going to try plugging the HDD into my laptop
[18:59] <shandell> Will you be around for awhile?
[18:59] <bioterror> well, we put kids to in-law's, so I cant guarantee that :D
[19:01] <shandell> lol okay well if you're not, thanks for all your help :)
[19:16] <bodhi_zazen> Is there anyone on the lubuntu team interested in documentation for lubuntu users ? ie wiki ?
[19:20] <shandell> Allo?
[19:20] <shandell> bioterror: I switched the HDD's and Lubuntu boots up just fine on my computer Gateway something-or-other only two years old
[19:21] <shandell> And my HDD booted up just fine on the Toshiba
[19:22] <bioterror> everything is now okay?
[19:22] <shandell> Don't know for sure... I haven't switched the HDD's back yet. Just wanted to let you know that his HDD isn't shot :)
[19:23] <bioterror> good
[19:23] <shandell> Any idea what else could be causing the problem?
[19:25] <shandell> Is it possible for the HDD to wiggle out of place and maybe disconnect from typing too hard on the keyboard?
[19:27] <bioterror> there's only one way to find it out
[19:28] <shandell> Yeah I guess lol I'll be back in a bit then :)
[19:45] <murple> In openbox, I am trying to bind the windows (super) key to open the "start menu" as I have been used to this from Windowsland. I am able to bind SUPER+z and SUPER-x, but as soon as I only use the SUPER key (W) it uses the actual W instead of SUPER. I'm sorry for the poor explanation. does anyone understand what I mean and know the solution? I am editing lxde-rc.xml and using <keybind key="W"> and <command>lxpanelctl menu</command>
[19:46] <bodhi_zazen> murple: I think the key you want to bind is called meta
[19:47] <bioterror> that binding was removed actually
[19:47] <murple> bodhi_zazen: Are you sure? Because W-Z effectively binds the SUPER key + z key.?
[19:47] <murple> bioterror,: how so?
[19:47] <bioterror> when you pressed windows button and like t for terminal, it flashed the menu
[19:47] <bodhi_zazen> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings
[19:47] <murple> meta doesn't seem to work.
[19:48] <bodhi_zazen> "M 	Meta key "
[19:48] <bodhi_zazen> not sure if lubuntu changed that
[19:48] <murple> W	 Super key (Usually bound to the Windows key on keyboards which have one)
[19:48] <bioterror> meta = alt or esc
[19:49] <murple> hmm.. I'm not sure I understand, but using <keybind key="meta"> does not work as intended.
[19:49] <murple> I think the problem is I don'
[19:50] <murple> t want to use it as a modifier, the key W and M are listed under Modifiers, but I want to bind the key by itself.
[19:52] <murple> After reading that link more carefully, I think I've got to use xev to identify the physical key and somehow use the numerical value to bind it.
[19:53] <murple> Ill probably figure that out, although it wasn't quite as easy as I thought/hoped.
[19:53] <murple> Thanks for the help.
[19:53] <murple> bbl
[19:56] <shandell> bioterror: Everything is A-OK :D My guess is that there was a connection issue with the HDD. I'll have to tell my husband to cool it on the keyboard stabbing lol
[19:57] <shandell> Thanks again for all your help :D I would never have thought to switch HDD's, I guess now I know lol
[19:57] <bioterror> thank gordonjcp for that
[19:57] <bioterror> :D
[19:57] <shandell> Oh! Oops lol Thanks gordonjcp!!
[19:58] <shandell> Time to eat :) Ttyl *wave*
[20:38] <murple> In case anyone was interested, the correct keybind was Super_L or Super_R. The only minuscule annoyance now is that the menu cannot be hidden by hitting the Windows key once more. (i.e. toggle the menu on and off with the same key). Also, this slightly screws up other keyboard shortcuts such as Win+R for the run box. If I hit Win+R quickly, the run box is activated, but the window also shows up because I hit the Win key first.
[20:39] <murple> In other words, once I bind the Super_L (Left Win key) on it's one, this hotkey is fired along with all other hotkeys which use Super_L as a modifier.
[20:41] <bioterror> Fri22:47 <bioterror> that binding was removed actually
[20:41] <bioterror> Fri22:47 <bioterror> when you pressed windows button and like t for terminal, it flashed the menu
[20:48] <murple> bioterror: I don't understand what you mean?
[20:49] <murple> bioterror: When I do Super_L + t, the menu launches as well the terminal. Both hotkeys fire.
[20:50] <bioterror> yep
[20:50] <bioterror> as I said, that's why we removed that binding where super key opens lxde menu
[20:51] <murple> Oh, now I think I understand where you're coming from. You mean the keybinding Super_L to launch the menu was originally a default value, but it was removed to avoid the problems I'm now experiencing.
[20:51] <murple> I see.
[20:51] <bioterror> yes
[20:52] <murple> hmm...
[20:53] <murple> I'll have to find something else to bind the menu to, but I prefer a single key and I had gotten quite used to Super_L. Perhaps Super_L + Alt, but it's not quite as elegant.
[20:53] <murple> bioterror: Is there a way to hide the menu?
[20:53] <bioterror> I would use ctrl+esc for bringing up the menu
[20:53] <murple> bioterror: That way I could perhaps code my own little bash/Python script to toggle the menu's visibility with the same keybind.
[20:55] <murple> bioterror: ctrl+esc seems to be the default as it works on my setup but I have certainly not configured it. I think it's a horribly difficult keybind. I don't have particularly small hands or short fingers, but to reach from Ctrl all the way up to Esc is just not going to happen.
[20:58] <bioterror> my left hand fingers can easily reach on 25.5" scale guitar from 1st fret to sixth, if I really stretch, it will make it 7 but wont sound clear ;)
[20:58] <bioterror> so not a problem that kind of small reaching out
[20:59] <murple> bioterror: Well, let's just hope for my sake that some of the other individuals involved aren't quite as dexterous as you :)
[21:01] <murple> I think A-Super_L to bring up the menu is a good alternative.
[21:01] <bioterror> but honestly
[21:01] <murple> I also really appreciate the fact that I can use openbox --restart to test the configuration quickly as opposed to having to log in and out which is what many unseaoned users do.
[21:01] <bioterror> for what you need that menu?
[21:03] <murple> bioterror: he. To appease my old habbits, also, I'm relatively new to Linux in general, but I generally appreciate being able to customize things "just-so".
[21:03] <bioterror> replace "lxpanel run" with gmrun, and you get ten times better application launcher for super+r or alt+f2
[21:03] <murple> Being able to access and navigate the menu quickly from the keyboard is a nice feature.
[21:04] <bioterror> you can then easily tab complete applications you want to execute
[21:04] <murple> hmmmm "Software Center" says no packages found.
[21:04] <bioterror> and choose with up and down arrows already used commands
[21:04] <murple> what's gmrun?
[21:04] <bioterror> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmrun/
[21:05] <murple> apt-get install did the trick...
[21:05] <murple> err
[21:05] <murple> it's minimalistic.
[21:06] <murple> there's no auto-completion, how is this better than the standard lxpanelctl run?
[21:07] <bioterror> use the tab
[21:07] <murple> right...
[21:10] <murple> I'll give it a try, I've binded it to Super+G : ) Any other good advise for an enthusiastic lxde newcomer?
[21:13] <murple> Another small annoyance is that the mute button only mutes, it does not Unmute. (amixer -q sset Master toggle)
[21:13] <bioterror> should unmute
[21:15] <murple> I agree, but it doesn't. I've tried to run the command from the terminal/run box but with the same result.
[21:16] <murple> I can still adjust the volume slider with the other keys, (+/- 3%), but as long as it stays muted that doesn't change anything.
[21:17] <murple> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/883485
[21:50] <murple> bioterror: Thanks again for your help, I'm off!
[21:54] <salamander_> hi there, Im having problems with flash. Im runing lubuntu 12.04, just installed it. I have installed also firefox and flashplugin-installer but when I go to youtube there is a black window instead of a video
[21:54] <Elchzard> Under SEH Team


[00:01] <soultekkie> amarok or exaile?
[00:01] <soultekkie> for mp3
[00:01] <soultekkie> using smplayer... its good so far
[00:01] <scb> soultekkie: i use clementine.
[00:06] <soultekkie> do you intall it from ubuntu ppa?
[00:09] <scb> soultekkie: i dont think so, no.
[00:11] <soultekkie> since they have one... why not... in theory its a deb
[03:14] <Shirakawasuna> I was testing out kubuntu and added the kde 4.6.5 ppa (or whatever the standard one was), but kdepim was still at 4.4.  I assume this is due to kdepim 4.6 still being pretty buggy, but I wanted to verify this and/or see how I could get kdepim 4.6 easily.
[05:32] <_gambler> How do you use KDE Plasma Workspace?
[05:32] <jordan_> _gambler , what do you mean?
[05:32] <_gambler> When i log-on with the KDE Plasma workspace selected i just get a blank screen with only a pointer
[05:32] <jordan_> OHHH
[05:33] <jordan_> thats a problem
[05:33] <jordan_> i dont know
[05:33] <jordan_> i never had that happen to me before
[05:33] <_gambler> first time using it. i dont really even know what it is i just got ubuntu
[05:33] <jordan_> uh
[05:34] <jordan_> does anyone else have a similar problem on like forums etc?
[05:35] <_gambler> i'm going to try to login again, is there a command to pull up terminal
[05:35] <_gambler> like a default keystroke
[05:35] <jordan_> hang on
[05:36] <jordan_> did you have a clean installation?
[05:36] <_gambler> I believe so? as opposed to a dirty installation?
[05:37] <jordan_> hmm try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdebase-plasma
[05:37] <jordan_> see what that does
[05:38] <_gambler> no installation candidate
[05:39] <jordan_> hmm
[05:39] <yofel> check if plasma-desktop is properly installed. Also, pressing alt+f2 should bring up krunner, run 'plasma-desktop' in there
[05:39] <yofel> or konsole, which will give you a terminal
[05:40] <_gambler> could not open location
[05:40] <_gambler> where would it be locateD?
[05:41] <yofel> o.O plasma should be /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
[05:42] <_gambler> typing konsole doesn't open terminal
[05:42] <jordan_> .o0(why hasnt anyone made a binary for daisy yet its working fine in 11.04)0o.
[05:43] <yofel> _gambler: how did you install kde?
[05:43] <_gambler> idk, it came up automatically when i installed ubuntu
[05:44] <jordan_> wait a minute you mean unity ubuntu?
[05:44] <_gambler> im installing it right now
[05:44] <jordan_> where did you get your iso from?
[05:44] <_gambler> using sudo apt-get install
[05:45] <jordan_> k
[05:45] <_gambler> plasma-desktop
[05:45] <yofel> *what* are you installing using apt-get exactly?
[05:45] <yofel> ah
[05:45] <yofel> can you install kubuntu-desktop too please?
[05:45] <_gambler> what is that
[05:45] <yofel> meta package to make sure all you need to run KDE is installed
[05:46] <jordan_> ermm yofel google didnt tell me to post that lol
[05:46] <yofel> ^^
[05:47] <_gambler> performing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:49] <_gambler> it's asking me to select a default display manager
[05:49] <_gambler> ?
[05:50] <jordan_> _gambler im googling it
[05:50] <jordan_> ;-)
[05:50] <jordan_> kdm
[05:50] <jordan_> i think
[05:51] <Torch> yes
[05:52] <_gambler> alright i can change it if i need but do you know the differnce?
[05:53] <_gambler> kdm is for kde plasma and gdm is for gnome
[05:53] <jordan_> yup
[05:53] <_gambler> which is better, kde or gnome, i don't know enough about them
[05:53] <Torch> it's not that simple, but you can look at it that way.
[05:54] <Torch> _gambler: this is kubuntu, a kde-centric channel, so...
[05:55] <_gambler> so kde just replaces gnome basically?
[05:55] <_gambler> what are the benefits of kde
[05:55] <jordan_> i think it looks nicer :-)
[05:55] <jordan_> the only reason why i use it lol
[05:56] <_gambler> i see.
[05:57] <jordan_> all the technical stuff i have no argument
[05:57] <jordan_> simply i dont know what im talking about
[05:57] <_gambler> lol
[05:58] <jordan_> does anyone know who buhman is?
[05:58] <jordan_> hes really odd
[05:58] <jordan_> on ubuntu channel
[06:02] <LINKSWORD2> Hey ya'll.... My Volume controls is not showing up on my toolbar.
[06:02] <jordan_> links, everytime i see you in here your having heck
[06:02] <jordan_> are you on a beta?
[06:03] <LINKSWORD2> Nope. I'm on 11.04
[06:03] <jordan_> oh
[06:03] <jordan_> well have you recently installed any programs related to sound?
[06:04] <jordan_> like if you had pluse you instaled alsa
[06:04] <LINKSWORD2> No.
[06:05] <LINKSWORD2> -_- I can't stay awake tonight.
[06:05] <jordan_> im a noob
[06:05] <LINKSWORD2> I'll have to figure this out later.
[06:05] <jordan_> but ill try to help
[06:06] <jordan_> figured he recently installed another backend
[06:06] <jordan_> something went haywire
[06:07] <jordan_> or something
[06:07] <jordan_> heck i dont know
[06:33] <Research>  8D
[06:35] <Research> .
[07:08] <introuble->  i need a free php app like http://www.hesk.com/demo/    but with more options, like time to complete allowed and time completed in . some bar graphs of time management and some more features. and ideas ?
[07:09] <Tm_T> introuble-: you should try asking some more appropriate channels for that, see the channel topic (:
[07:18] <Miika--> ikonia: hello, I promised to report :) So, I burned the alternate ISO to CD and from that I could install Kubuntu. Thanks for help.
[08:07] <Bo0m> Greetings All. Am trying to install a good dock for my kubuntu desktop. Can anyone please suggest a good looking dock? new to linux and trying to make sure it looks great which will make me not select mt win xp option while booting :)
[08:10] <well_laid_lawn> !awn
[08:11] <well_laid_lawn> !info docky
[08:19] <llee> hi, anyone had experience on "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!" after startx command? I'm unable to log in to XORG in Kubuntu. I'm using linux 2.6.3808 kernel 64 bit.
[08:19] <llee> *38-8 kernel
[08:21] <well_laid_lawn> llee: have you looked at the X log to see if it tells you why?
[08:23] <llee> well_laid_lawn: i tried checking on /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, it says fatal server error, no screens found.
[08:23] <well_laid_lawn> llee: anything about not finding modules?
[08:24] <well_laid_lawn> I'm guessing the kernel module wasn't built
[08:26] <llee> well_laid_lawn:  is it the log starts with LoadModule?
[08:27] <tsimpson> you probably want to start by deleting your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and let X auto-detect the settings
[08:28] <well_laid_lawn> llee:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log "might" mention that it can't find the nvidia module somehow - I don't usse nvidia atm
[08:28] <llee> tsimpson: i try that now. thanks.
[08:28] <llee> well_laid_lawn: noted. thanks.
[08:32] <llee> tsimpson: i've remove xorg.conf file, but it still complains "Failed to load module "nouveau" (module not exist) after startx
[08:34] <tsimpson> llee: I guess make sure you have xserver-xorg-video-nouveau installed
[08:41] <llee> tsimpson: sorry for late reply. it's installed now. but startx still wants to locate nvidia drivers. the nvidia GPU at PCI:5:0:0 is not supported by the 173.14.30
[08:45] <tsimpson> not sure then, I don't have an nvidia card
[08:45] <tsimpson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia is the only relevant documentation I know of
[08:46] <llee> tsimpson: thanks! appreaciate it.
[08:46] <godofmischief> Im relatively new to linux.  And more so kubuntu.  Ive installed kubuntu on my m15x. Going pretty well updating packages setup my external monitor to work..  When I downloaded the new nvidia the external monitor stopped working.  At this point i realized the Nvidia X Server Settings that the second display was diabled.  Click here to blah blah.  Restart Xserver.  Do this and the monitor still doest come on.  Nvidia X SErver settings do apply (or so th
[08:46] <godofmischief> ey say).
[08:47] <godofmischief> Oh and the monitors proven, it works.
[08:48] <Shirakawasuna> I'm not sure if disper is meant for external monitor stuff, but I use it constantly, godofmischief.  It's a utility for cloning to/handling external displays (but not twinview, etc)
[08:48] <Shirakawasuna> not sure if disper is easily available on kubuntu, I just installed it (kubuntu) for the first time myself
[08:49] <godofmischief> great timing.  I just figured out the twinview part right as you said that.
[08:49] <godofmischief> got the external monitor going now.
[08:50] <godofmischief> I appreciate the help thooo
[08:59] <godofmischief> on that same note, randomly once ever so often.  And even just now logged me out to the KDE Login
[09:01] <Shirakawasuna> that's weird
[09:01] <Shirakawasuna> just in case it's a bug, is your system fully up to date?
[09:02] <godofmischief> yes.  Just logged back.  Had to go reenable the external monitor.
[09:02] <godofmischief> it was back off.
[09:13] <godofmischief> and again logged back out.  I was clicking on the software management button.  External monitor is again disabled.
[09:15] <godofmischief> Didn't even re-enable it this time.  Logged me out again.
[09:16] <godofmischief> quickest log out in history.  Like someone flipped a switch outta no where.
[09:21] <godofmischief> is the kde wallet similar to a keyring?
[09:24] <introuble> i need a free php app like http://www.hesk.com/demo/    but with more options, like time to complete allowed and time completed in . some bar graphs of time management and some more features. and ideas ?
[09:40] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[09:49] <introuble> i have some php files that work with mysql   , hesk.com . how can i run those files and edit their code. i have ruby but i cant use it.
[10:10] <James147> introuble: ^^ you should run the php files through a web server and if they use mysql then you need to set that up correctly as well... just open them in a text editor to edit them
[10:10] <James147> !lamp
[10:11] <introuble> James147 xampp will be fine?
[10:11] <James147> yeah
[10:11] <introuble> what do i do after i install xampp . how to run the index.php?
[10:12] <James147> introuble: once the web server is started just use your webbrowser and navagate to: http://localhost/...
[10:12] <James147> ^^ assuming the index.php file is in the root of your webservers folder
[10:14] <introuble> James147 how to start the server. and where to put all the .php files?
[10:16] <James147> not sure for xampp ^^ but on kubuntu apaches web folder is at /var/www  or /var/www-data  if i remember correctly
[10:16] <introuble> ok
[10:16] <introuble> thx
[10:17] <introuble> James147 do you know how to remove the powered by and sponserd by text and still make hesk.com/demo work?
[10:18] <James147> I would guess you just delete the relevant lines on the php file ^^
[10:37] <godofmischief> is there a button combo mapped to kill xserver?
[10:38] <yofel> alt+print+k should work
[10:39] <yofel> (that's the mapping for sysrq-k)
[10:48] <x3cion> Hello, I try to copy files in dolphin from a remote server over sftp. The transfer speed stucks at around 1,5 to 1,9 mb/s, even though, i've a 100 mbit/s lan. Does someone share this problem or even have a solution?
[10:50]  * James147 notes that sftp is basically ftp over ssh... and thus needs to encrypt the data making the transfer cpu bound
[10:52] <kirk_> godofmischief: Launchpad bug 760632 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Resizing Konsole crashes the whole system" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760632
[10:52] <godofmischief> No kidding.  so resizing the terminal window is doing that.
[10:53] <godofmischief> thanks...
[11:01] <godofmischief> so what's the preferred method to stop the xserver if its no longer resonsive?
[11:01] <godofmischief> and then i'd ask what are the easy ways?
[11:02] <James147> godofmischief: quickest: alt+print screen+k
[11:02] <James147> godofmischief: if its not responding thats probally the best way as well... though "sudo stop kdm" is the better way if it is responding
[11:03] <godofmischief> Thanks, that's outstanding.
[11:30] <EugenMayer>  hi. anybody knows about the issue that emails just stay in the outgoing folder, not going to send at all? hi. anybody knows about the issue that emails just stay in the outgoing folder, not going to send at all? (its not a SMTP configuration issue)
[11:37] <noaXess> hey all
[11:37] <noaXess> where are all the fonts placed on the system? user and system fonts?
[11:38] <James147> noaXess: try /usr/share/fonts
[11:39] <noaXess> James147: found.. and the user fonts?
[11:40] <James147> noaXess: not entirly sure... possibly .fonts or somewhere in .local or .config
[11:41] <noaXess> ok
[11:41] <James147> noaXess: though you should be able to install them with system settings > font installer
[11:42] <noaXess> James147: i know.. i just wanted to have the right file name of a special font...
[11:42] <giantpune> hi, i have just installed a package from the ubuntu repos and i think it may be pretty broken.  or maybe im just not using it right.  is somebody around that can try it and see that its not operator error?
[11:43] <James147> giantpune: might want to say what the package is and why you think its broken
[11:44] <giantpune> the package is imdb-tools.  and when it seems that it can search for movies correctly, but fails to provide any info about it
[12:25] <kubu2> added an item to the kmenu and I couldn't see anywhere to set icon? any idea how?
[12:27] <James147> kubu2: in kmenuedit just click on the icon when you ahve the item selected
[12:29] <kubu2> James147: thanks..didn't notice that area as it appeared just empty pixel
[12:33] <kubu2> at least they should have put an empty placeholder so you know it's there.
[12:38] <Shirakawasuna2> hmm
[12:39] <Shirakawasuna2> just how unstable is oneiric?  I want to switch my media pc to kubuntu, but it requires kernel 3.0 to work right (a bug w/ the nvidia card and nouveau driver).  Alternatively, how easy is it to upgrade just the kernel?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:56] <yofel> Shirakawasuna2: oneiric is broken, at least till mid of the week I would say. You could try a mainline kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ unless you need some ubuntu specific patches in the kernel
[12:57] <yofel> Shirakawasuna2: more information about oneiric in #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <Shirakawasuna2> yofel: cool, thanks
[13:16] <introuble> can anyone tell me how to remove or replace the footer "powered by or sponsered by"    i cant find that in the source code. iam new in php.   help.com/demo ?
[13:21] <Ddpbf> hi does somebody know how to properly configure phonon-mplayer?
[13:22] <Ddpbf> sorry
[13:22] <Ddpbf> i found it
[13:27] <Ulisses> does anyone knows if kmail has a daemon?
[13:28] <tsimpson> no, it's just an application
[13:32] <judice> ae seus loco
[13:32] <judice> nun sei como que mexe nesse trem aqui
[13:32] <judice> aushaushauhs
[13:33] <Pici> !br | judice
[13:34] <introuble> can anyone tell me how to remove or replace the footer "powered by or sponsered by"    i cant find that in the source code. where can it be?.   hesk.com/demo ?
[13:35] <Pici> introuble: What software?
[13:36] <Pici> introuble: What does this have to do with Kubuntu?
[13:36] <Ddpbf> Pici: i guess he wants to build it on kubuntu :)
[13:38] <tsimpson> introuble: ##php would be the place to ask about PHP
[14:02] <introuble> can anyone tell me how to remove or replace the footer "powered by or sponsered by"    i cant find that in the source code. where can it be?.   hesk.com/demo ?
[14:14] <Ddpbf> introuble: this is thir thime you ask the same question altough you were given answer
[14:14] <Ddpbf> go on ##php and ask tehre for php related questions
[14:17] <introuble> Ddpbf i cant find it.
[14:17] <introuble> oh ok
[14:18] <Ddpbf> introuble: /j ##php
[14:18] <introuble> no use
[16:14] <Ddpbf> yofel: is there any chance for kde 4.7 rc2 in kubuntu-ppa
[16:14] <yofel> chance yes, can't say more yet
[16:25] <bipolar> Does anyone know how to get kdm to wait for the network to come up before loading?
[16:27] <bipolar> I'm using ldap users and network shared home directories. Kdm comes up so quick that the user list is missing and the home directories are inaccessible.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> bipolar, maybe a script in init.d to start the /network/interfaces file sooner ...fooling with kdm might be a lot more difficult
[16:42] <bipolar> BluesKaj: I edited the kdm upstart file to wait for the network to come up, but now the splash screen goes away long before kdm comes up. I'm playing whackAmole here. :P
[16:44] <bipolar> I might need to let it be like this for now since it's functional, and make it pretty later. I need to get this image out to the workstations so it can be used.
[16:45]  * bipolar just found out about upstart override files.
[16:45] <bipolar> awesome!
[16:52] <BluesKaj> bipolar, well tell us about it ...share the knowledge :)
[16:57] <BluesKaj> bipolar, found it ...interesting stuff..looks like you found a fix
[16:59] <bipolar> BluesKaj: yeah. I just added "and net-device-up IFACE!=lo" to the "start on" stanza  and put the replacement stanza in kdm.override. Now when kdm (finally) comes up it has it's full user list.
[17:00] <BluesKaj> bipolar, cool
[17:02] <bipolar> hmm... but now it seems that if the network is disconnected, kdm *NEVER* comes up. :P
[17:02] <bipolar> nm.. yes it does. it just takes forever. ;P
[17:03] <bipolar> and that's ok with me. I guess it's waiting for dhcp to timeout.
[17:08] <anonymous__> ;^D hello
[17:09] <BluesKaj> bipolar, have you considered static ip on the network in place of dhcp ?
[17:20] <Chan_dzu> Hello! Anybody can help me?
[17:21] <Chan_dzu> Hello! Anybody can help me?
[17:25] <Pici> Chan_dzu: We don't know if we can help you if you don't ask a question.
[18:14] <Ddpbf> does somebody know adress of web interface for kde-git
[18:16] <BluesKaj> Ddpbf, not exactly , but I did find this http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MovetoGit
[18:18] <Ddpbf> BluesKaj: i found it http://quickgit.kde.org
[18:19] <BluesKaj> hmm, wonder why kde moved to git , or is this just a fork?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> ayway, bbl
[18:24] <Ddpbf> BluesKaj: no we are transfering to git
[18:24] <Ddpbf> i think we translators will be last to switch from svn to git
[18:33] <BluesKaj> we translators ?... Ddpbf
[18:33] <Ddpbf> i am kde translator
[18:34] <BluesKaj> kde translator to what ?
[18:34] <Ddpbf> serbian
[18:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:36] <soee> oh, there is already kde 4.7 rc2 :)
[18:36] <soee> are you going to add ppa for kubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:37] <Ddpbf> soee: there are good chances
[18:37] <soee> ok, thank you Ddpbf
[18:39] <BluesKaj> soee, if you have the ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports repos
[18:41] <soee> yeah but for natty there are not kde packages
[18:43] <jordan_> add kubuntu ppa correct?
[18:43] <Ddpbf> because all packages are not built yet
[18:43] <BluesKaj> dunno , I havent done a dist-upgrade
[18:44] <Ddpbf> BluesKaj: i asked yofel today
[18:44] <Ddpbf> [18:14] <yofel> chance yes, can't say more yet
[18:45] <BluesKaj> for natty ? Ddpbf ...I know for sure they aren't built for Oneiric
[18:45] <BluesKaj> yet
[18:46] <Ddpbf> actually there is another ppa i believe
[18:46] <Ddpbf> project neon or something like that
[18:47] <BluesKaj> well, there' link on project neon , but it's dead
[18:47] <yofel> *that* are trunk daily builds, currently 4.7.40 or so I believe
[18:48] <Ddpbf> yofel: you are also packaging at neon?
[18:49] <Deadite811> Is there a ppa to try out the 4.7rc's?  (Not Project Neon!)
[18:49] <yofel> heh, Deadite811: not yet
[18:49] <yofel> Ddpbf: yep
[18:49]  * BluesKaj isn't going back to Oneirc for a while ...I'll keep monitoring the progress at #ubuntu+1 , tho
[18:50] <Deadite811> thanks
[18:51] <Ddpbf> i guess i ll try 4.7.rc2 on arch
[18:53] <BluesKaj> might try it on the other linuxbox
[18:56] <Doyle> Here's an easy question, where's the setting to disable the touch pad when a mouse is plugged in? 11.04
[18:56] <Doyle> Google doesn't seem to know
[19:00] <BluesKaj> Doyle, kmenu>apps>settings>system settings>input devices
[19:01] <Doyle> Yep, but I don't see the option
[19:02] <Doyle> I see an option for circular touchpad in the spot I'd usually find what I'm looking for
[19:03] <gxoptg_> hi
[19:11] <Doyle> do I have to restart after installing kde-config-synaptic?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Doyle, dunno , There's a cli command for a temp touchpad disable , but I haven't used it since daughter borrowed our laptop
[19:17] <BluesKaj> Doyle, http://ubuntuguide.net/quickly-enabledisable-laptop-touchpad-with-touchpad-indicator-in-ubuntu-10-10
[19:18] <BluesKaj> Doyle, just installed synaptic? ..it should just work
[19:19] <Doyle> Just found it
[19:19] <Doyle> once it's started it sits in the tray
[19:19] <Doyle> Thanks BluesKaj
[19:23] <Doyle> Kubuntu is a nice change. I was using Pardus 2011 for a few weeks, but the inability to install the 'locate' command was a dealbreaker.
[19:23] <Doyle> they've done weird things to that os
[19:46] <BluesKaj> Doyle, yes , I tried it for a bit , but it wasn't as wonderful as some said
[19:47] <Doyle> so far the only thing I'd change in Kubuntu is having kde-config-synaptic install automatically on laptop detection
[19:48] <Doyle> Often inline flash videos display on the desktop background when going full screen instead of producing a topmost overlay as it should, but I think it's an issue with 11.04 in general
[19:49] <Doyle> I've seen the issue in several 11.04 distros
[19:49] <BluesKaj>  I looked for  kde-config-synaptic in muon , but wasn't listed, but I just install synaptic anyway as a matter of course
[19:49] <Doyle> wish I could fin a fix for it
[19:50] <Doyle> It's 'kde-config-synaptiks' in my list. I also see kde-config-touchpad
[19:52] <BluesKaj> kde-config-synaptiks , oh that's the touchpad app ...ok gotcha , thought youwere talking about the package manager
[19:55] <Doyle> yea, it made googling for a solution annoying  :P
[20:01] <Doyle> Oohh! activating additional drivers! Nvidia!
[20:02] <BluesKaj> yup, always first on the list after an upgrade
[20:40] <Armi^> hi all
[20:41] <Armi^> how can i backup all my email in kmail? I want to reinstall kubuntu after several years because all the upgrades made my systems all buggy.
[20:45] <Doyle> whelp, nvidia driver killed xorg.conf  :P
[20:45] <Doyle> will try again later. Sure glad there's a failsafe
[20:46] <gomiboy> Armi^: i don't know exactly where kmail stores mails, but i'd backup the entire home so to keep the configs of the other various programs too
[20:47] <yofel> Doyle: how? The additional drivers app will create a small xorg.conf so the driver is used, it shouldn't do more
[20:48] <Armi^> gomiboy: it used to store the mails under .kde/....../kmail , but nowadays with akonady i'm lost :P
[20:49] <Doyle> when launching Nvidia X Server Settings utility, it says "You do nto appear to be using the Nvidia X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root), and restart the X server." so I did
[20:49] <Armi^> gomiboy: and losing a few yers of emails is not an option ::
[20:49] <Armi^> :P
[20:52] <gomiboy> Armi^: if you backup your entire home as i said, you are safe and don't need to reconfigure anything (my home is from 2004 :)
[20:55] <Armi^> gomiboy: k, will do thnx
[21:00] <soultekkie> evening
[21:00] <soultekkie> can anyone tell me where does kubuntu natty stores its wallpapers
[21:00] <soultekkie> ?
[21:02] <yofel> soultekkie: the system wallpapers are in /usr/share/wallpapers
[21:05] <OerHeks> yofel, true, but only the ones you add
[21:06] <OerHeks> else in /usr/share/wallpapers
[21:06] <yofel> uh, that's what I said, I don't know where plasma stores the user wallpapers
[21:06] <OerHeks> ah oke :-D
[21:07] <OerHeks> i still like the default one.
[21:09] <yofel> actually, I believe it just adds a config line with the location of the wallpaper if you add one by hand
[21:53] <SantoCristo> #goiania
[21:53] <SantoCristo> ops
[21:57] <SantoCristo> nickserv register 120888<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:03] <Webtester01> How do I apply updates to ISO image via jigdo? Do I need to wait for a point release?
[22:08] <Webtester01> I have used jigdo before, to get a full image.
[22:10] <lcb> eye
[22:11] <Webtester01> lcb: Are you familiar with applying incremental updates to kubuntu iso images?
[22:11] <lcb> Webtester01: never did :(
[22:12] <lcb> Webtester01: you mean an updated image, like daily image?
[22:20] <lcb> damn. it were a bot. bots always expect ppl to answer their questions and never say thanks.
[22:24] <Ddpbf> http://humanrightslogo.net/ideas/20710
[22:24] <Ddpbf> lot of lols
[22:25] <Webtester01> I'm not a bot.
[22:25] <Webtester01> I stepped awa for a moment
[22:26] <szal> Ddpbf: prolly off-topic though :)
[22:26] <Webtester01> Not daily images.
[22:26] <Ddpbf> szal: sorry
[22:26] <Webtester01> Just.. say once amonth apply the Sofware Updates to the ISO image
[22:27] <Webtester01> I suppose I'd have to to that manually?
[22:27] <Webtester01> via chroot?
[22:27] <Webtester01> jigdo would be nice though
[22:36] <Blutterbob> Hi therre, just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, from 8.10 and up I never had any problem with my wireless (Dell D620 laptop, BMC4311 wireless interface), but right now its not working.. Used jockey to install the driver, but ifconfig -a does not show the wifi interface.. Is this a know problem? How may I fix it?
[22:38] <Ddpbf> Blutterbob: please post outpu of sudo lshw -C network
[22:38] <Ddpbf> *output
[22:39] <Blutterbob> Ddpbf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/642219/
[22:41] <Ddpbf> Blutterbob: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10955962&postcount=2
[22:43] <Blutterbob> Ddpbf: Checking...
[22:43] <Blutterbob> Ddpbf: should be good this way, cant restart (yet) though... Can load unload modules etc.. but.. I think this should work.. thanks!
[22:44] <Ddpbf> np
[23:06] <godofmischief> anyone in here run boxee on natty?


[06:35] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:41] <popey> yo
[06:44] <brobostigon> morning popey
[06:45] <diplo> Morning all
[06:46] <brmbrmcar> hello
[06:54] <knightwise> hey everyone :) how are you doing
[06:55] <brobostigon> back pain, but ok, and you knightwise ?
[06:55] <knightwise> doin ok :) Slow day at work today , so i'm gonna catch up on some email and stuff
[06:55] <brobostigon> :)
[06:55] <knightwise> might even do a dist upgrade on my 14.04 XPS
[06:55] <knightwise> (feeling daring)
[06:56] <brobostigon> lol.
[07:01] <zmoylan-pi> windows 10 it is... :-P
[07:03] <knightwise> zmoylan-pi: :)
[07:03] <knightwise> well, its free up to june 10th
[07:52] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:56] <popey> oooh, just managed to crash chrome in a new and interesting wa
[07:56] <popey> *way
[07:57] <popey> go to a site like youtube where you can upload files, click upload, get a file dialog, leave that there, looking at a file, without uploading. Open terminal, rename the file. chrome dies :)
[07:57] <SuperMatt> interesting
[07:58] <davmor2> Morning all
[07:59] <SuperMatt> morning
[08:31]  * knightwise has been asked for a speaking gig at a MAJOR multinational
[08:31] <knightwise> no idea what to charge
[08:32] <Laney> 9999999
[08:33] <knightwise> yeah
[08:34] <knightwise> something like that
[08:36] <foobarry> "the going rate"
[08:43] <brobostigon> charge them the equivulant of a months beer money, :)
[08:43] <foobarry> which is zero for me :\
[08:43] <foobarry> but jelly snakes/haribo money...
[08:43] <brobostigon> :)
[08:43] <zmoylan-pi> 3 unicorns...
[08:44] <foobarry> 2 french hens
[08:44] <zmoylan-pi> then they can haggle you down to 2 unicorns so everyone is happy
[08:48] <bashrc> if it's MAJOR and they have the money then charge an arm and a leg
[08:48] <zmoylan-pi> 4 hooves and a horn, it's your big chance :-P
[08:50] <bashrc> although it depends on the situation. If MAJOR was microsoft then I wouldn't take their dirty dollars.
[08:50] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Beverage Day! 😃  ☕
[09:00] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTjC6rxHz8g
[10:04] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm right though aren't I and also a great tune for setting the mood on a Friday too :)
[10:11] <JamesTait> davmor2, I can't argue. ☺
[11:01] <foobarry> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.fsf.org
[11:01] <foobarry> :(
[11:03] <davmor2> foobarry: ooopsie
[12:32] <knightwise> ok
[12:32] <knightwise> ready to dist-upgrade my os
[12:32] <SuperMatt> gl
[12:33] <knightwise> wof would you recommend a clean install ?
[12:33] <SuperMatt> what are you upgrading from?
[12:34] <SuperMatt> and did you upgrade that from something else?
[12:43] <knightwise> nope
[12:43] <knightwise> that was a clean install
[12:45] <knightwise> hmm
[12:46] <knightwise> dist upgrade dont work ?
[12:46] <SuperMatt> do a do-release-upgrade
[12:53] <knightwise> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[12:53] <knightwise> This can be caused by:
[12:53] <knightwise> * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[12:53] <knightwise> * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[12:53] <knightwise> * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
[12:55] <knightwise> could it be that Dell shipped a non final release of 14.04 on this machine ?
[12:58] <MartijnVdS> either that, or they (or you :P) didn't keep it "clean" :)
[12:58] <knightwise> define clean ?
[12:58] <SuperMatt> do apt update and apt upgrade, see what happens
[12:59] <knightwise> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16258085/
[13:05] <SuperMatt> maybe disable the steam repo for now, and try again
[13:05] <SuperMatt> if this is the first time you've seen that error, you probably haven't kept your machine up to date at all
[13:09] <foobarry> or the i386 one at least
[13:16] <knightwise> ok , so how do i throw out the steam repo ? i've removed the lists in /var/lib/apt/lists
[13:16] <foobarry> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:17] <foobarry> edit the steam one and put a # in front of the steam repo line(s)
[13:17] <foobarry> apt-get update again
[13:22] <knightwise> looks like that fixed it
[13:22] <knightwise> stupid steam :)
[13:23] <knightwise> nope ,
[13:23] <knightwise> another error
[13:24] <knightwise> W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
[13:24] <knightwise> 1397BC53640DB551
[13:24] <foobarry> http://askubuntu.com/questions/766883/there-is-no-public-key-available-for-the-following-key-ids-1397bc53640db551-goo
[13:24] <foobarry> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1397BC53640DB551
[13:25] <knightwise> thanx foobarry
[13:28] <knightwise> no error
[13:28] <knightwise> but no upgrade either
[13:31] <knightwise> or do i need to take it to 15.10 furst ?
[13:36] <knightwise> its runnig :)
[13:43] <SuperMatt> well done
[13:43] <SuperMatt> what version were you on before?
[13:53] <knightwise> 14.04
[13:54] <knightwise> upgrading now
[13:58] <SuperMatt> 14.04 to 16.04 does not need an intermediate update
[14:07] <knightwise> yep did that one
[14:11] <knightwise> as display manager , what should i pic (i'm running mate)
[14:12] <knightwise> gdm or lightdm ?
[14:12] <SuperMatt> what did you have before?
[14:12] <SuperMatt> because it makes little difference
[14:12] <knightwise> i'm not sure
[14:12] <knightwise> the default is lightdm
[14:12] <SuperMatt> was the login box on the left or the centre?
[14:15] <knightwise> center
[14:43] <diddledan> http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2016/5/4/11593084/dont-get-busted-copying-code-from-stack-overflow
[14:44] <foobarry> yeah lol
[14:44] <foobarry> even typoe'd it
[14:44] <diddledan> foobarry: did you run the code at the bottom?
[14:44] <foobarry> no
[14:44] <diddledan> doo eet
[14:44] <foobarry> its a rick roll
[14:44] <diddledan> :-)
[14:44] <foobarry> i let other follish people do things first
[14:45] <diddledan> I read the code and verified it wasn’t gonna blow-up my pc
[14:45] <foobarry> wasn't even tempted
[14:45] <diddledan> it’s actually pretty impressive
[14:52] <diddledan> there’s spoilers, but starwars the force awakens as emoji: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adgnlbRWo_Y
[17:50] <knightwise> anyone played with pip and 16.04 ? i'm getting the following errors : The 'pip==1.5.4' distribution was not found and is required by the application
[17:52] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: did you install the python3-pip package?
[17:53] <knightwise> yep , sais its the newest version$
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> maybe the thing you have wants python 2?
[17:58] <diddledan> joy: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/04/uk_government_10_year_jail_copyright/
[18:00] <zmoylan-pi> that'll get the private jails business a real kickstart
[18:00] <knightwise> i have python 2.7 installed
[18:06] <knightwise> the error i'm getting is that there are files missing in python 2.3
[18:07] <diddledan> this is good news: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/06/29_years_of_data_shows_no_mobile_phone_brain_cancer_link/
[18:08] <diddledan> also, probably doesn’t roast your nuts, either
[18:09] <zmoylan-pi> unless you're smuggling a *LOT* of phones into prison...
[18:09] <diddledan> not for internal use
[18:09] <diddledan> or “for external use only"
[18:10] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: http://www.amazon.com/B001V9SVMI
[18:10] <diddledan> 404
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001V9SVMI