[07:22] <elssha> but i still don't want to install lubuntu then find out it doesn't have what i need, format the partition and install ubuntu
[07:22] <tobych> how can i add a user using a non-interactive command?
[07:23] <tobych> with a password, i mean
[07:23] <velofille> jamey12, you will probably need to be root to delete those also
[07:23] <jamey12> you guye are the best
[07:23] <jamey12> thank you SO MUCH
[07:23] <elssha> i have to have this fixed and sorted and then I gotta transfer all the files etc before friday
[07:23] <Mindspider> minibnz: I rechecked everything that was unchecked. None of them say "Restricted" in the name
[07:23] <velofille> jamey12, did you find them?
[07:23] <jamey12> velofille: finally yes, thank you so much
[07:24] <jkbrntot> velofille: sounds delicious.  im gonna go eat now.. made me hungry...
[07:24] <velofille> jkbrntot, it was actually - nachos complete with bacon, sour cream, cheese, etc
[07:24] <velofille> jamey12, where did it put them ?
[07:24] <elssha> i'll be happy with desktop cube (eyecandy wise), or at least a way that pressing ctrl+alt+-> cycles the desktops (vs stopping at last desktop and making me backtrack)
[07:25] <jkbrntot> velofille: yeah trying another kernel or distro or version would narrow it down
[07:25] <jamey12> im my home folder, the ls -a worked and i rm -r 'ed them
[07:25] <velofille> sweetbix
[07:25] <velofille> jkbrntot, its the whole ass of backing it all up and reinstalling - im so lazy :)
[07:26] <velofille> mind you, not going to use encrypted folders next time, that will be a bonus to loose
[07:26] <lawltoad> i just ran an update and grub now segfalts!!!!!
[07:26] <pinkfox> how do i install a .tar.bz2 package?
[07:26] <jkbrntot> velofille: yeah...  install on another partition (still need to backup)?  try liveCD?  liveUSB?
[07:26] <velofille> why i chose to opt for 'yes' i dont know. but i couldnt use half my files because the filename was too lo
[07:26] <velofille> long
[07:26] <velofille> i have 2 hdds in my laptop, both 620gb or so
[07:27] <velofille> maybe 640gb? bucketloads anyway
[07:27] <velofille> i can squish it into one hdd though just, so ill rsync it all to sdb
[07:28] <Jordan_U> !details | lawltoad
[07:28] <jkbrntot> velofille: choose yes?  you mean the upgrade?   also doing a clean install (of 11.04) fixes some of the bugs.     lucky you have lots of hdd space on hand
[07:29] <Joseto> Hello, can someone help me with JACK control?
[07:30] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, ubottu , sorry I'm running 10.10 and i recently ran update manager after maybe a month... one of the updates is for grub2... during it it said that grub2 failed and in the details tab it segfaulted .... runnin ggrub-install /dev/sda (my only hd) segfaults.  under dmesg i get this line: grub-probe[22571]: segfault at 0 ip 0022c498 sp bfc8471c error 4 in libc-2.12.1.so. googleing has not turned up anything for me
[07:30] <velofille> jkbrntot, on the 2nd install of kubuntu i opted 'yes' for encrypted home dirs, but ended up not being able to use some of my files due to long filenames
[07:30] <velofille> jkbrntot, 256chars is the limit, but if you have 36 chars and encrypt it, it makes it a whole lot longer, so reduces file name char limit
[07:31] <velofille> i had ebooks i was unable to copy onto the encrypted homedir :/
[07:31] <Jordan_U> lawltoad: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda" and the full output of "dmesg"?
[07:31] <dijonyummy123> any linux tool that can mount a dmg file
[07:31] <jkbrntot> elssha: on regular 10.04 if you enable effects, you can use the SUPER (windows) key and tab to flip through your open programs
[07:32] <jkbrntot> velofille: ah complexities... good to know, tnx for sharing
[07:32] <velofille> dijonyummy123, mount will mount it - use -o loop
[07:32] <Joseto> How is it that you erase the fire?
[07:32] <velofille> dijonyummy123, actually i may be wrong on that, but it should work
[07:33] <elssha> my big thing is to flip desktops, not programs, and one of the things that killed 11.04 for me was that with the wall, once you went to the far left you had to jump back vs just going left once more to be on the far right
[07:33] <jkbrntot> elssha: ah you mean workspaces...
[07:33] <velofille> dijonyummy123, :~$ mount -t hfs -o loop myImage.dmg /macdisk
[07:34] <Reign_> Among the various problems of my Ubuntu, I am having memory/running issues with Celestia. Its a decent hard drive with 3 gig ram. And Ubuntu. It doesn't run right by itself. How do I check comp speed and such?
[07:34] <elssha> yup
[07:34] <Jordan_U> velofille: dijonyummy123: It would be -t hfsplus, and -t is rarely usefull as if it's going to work at all the filesystem will most likely be able to be detected automatically.
[07:35] <elssha> reign system monitor
[07:35] <velofille> Jordan_U, im old school, i still use ps -aux  :P
[07:35] <Reign_> elssha: looking at it, don't understand it yet
[07:35] <elssha> it has tabs up top
[07:35] <velofille> speaking of old school, does anyone still remember isapnp ?
[07:35] <Reign_> elssha: 100% memory usage. Uhm, very confused
[07:36] <elssha> what do you want to knwo?
[07:36] <elssha> know*
[07:36] <Reign_> elssha: how does a Ubuntu program require that much? it doesn't look that fancy.
[07:37] <dijonyummy123> thanks!
[07:37] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, sorry i havn't pastedbined you, but the --dubug revealed that /usr/sbin/grub-probe -v --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=drive --device /dev/sda segfaults    the device.map file does not exisit
[07:37] <elssha> one tab will tell you your system stats (how much ram, processor speed, etc), another will show you current usage, another will list running programs etc
[07:37] <elssha> what exactly are you running?
[07:37] <elssha> ubuntu version, programs, etc
[07:38] <elssha> and what's your processor
[07:38] <Reign_> elssha: its showing maxed CPU to 98%. Its weird. Celestia, a Ubuntu free solar system program
[07:38] <Reign_> elssha: Ubuntu 11.04 (natty)
[07:38] <elssha> but what IS your cpu
[07:38] <Reign_> saying my memory, presumably ram, is 2.8 Gigs amd 550.9 gig hd space
[07:39] <Reign_> elssha: specify, I'm tired and that's not computing
[07:39] <theos> hi! i need some help :) when i play youtube videos, then my downloaded audio doesnt sound. and when i play my downloaded songs, then youtube doesnt have sound. halp!
[07:39] <Reign_> theos: one program at a time, it helps
[07:39] <elssha> and what are you doing on it? at this moment that is
[07:39] <Reign_> Celestia
[07:39] <Reign_> and system monitor
[07:39] <Reign_> I'm running two computers
[07:39] <elssha> watching something on youtube, did you install compiz, etc
[07:40] <theos> Reign_, :) yeah. but it used to play both before
[07:40] <Reign_> than ignore me
[07:40] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, grub-mkdevicemap is the culprit!
[07:40] <Joseto> Can anyone here help me with JACK Contorl?
[07:40] <Joseto> control*
[07:40] <elssha> theos; what distro
[07:41] <Jordan_U> lawltoad: Are you not able to use pastebin for some reason?
[07:41] <theos> elssha, lucid
[07:41] <elssha> reign; go back to 10.04... IMHO it's a far more efficient UI than 11.04... and unity annoys me >_>
[07:41] <Reign_> Ubuntu comp is running Celestia (a free Ubuntu download available through Ubuntu) and System Monitor
[07:42] <theos> also audacity doesnt play sound :/
[07:43] <theos> can i put the blame of opencl driver? :D
[07:43] <Reign_> if I can't know how to fix it, can someone tell me how to delete programs.  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/pulseaudio already exist.
[07:46] <Reign_> figured it out. thanks for the input, Elssha. Wish I could have gotten the software to work.
[07:47] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, sorry, the --debug option wasn't in the man page... i solved it, though running grub-mkdevicemap --no-floppy segfaults too, it did produce the file, so grub-install worked now
[07:47] <lawltoad> Jordan_U, thanks for your help.... its an odd problem
[07:47] <hamnegga> anyone know how to get a decent video player plugin to work in firefox and gnome amd64?
[07:47] <velofille> mplayer
[07:48] <hamnegga> vlc can't be run as root, so I'm all set with it.  I have no mplayerplug-in package either
[07:48] <velofille> why would you need to run videos as root ?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> lawltoad: You're welcome. Not having a device.map should not cause a segfault. Try upgrading to grub 1.99 (from Ubuntu 11.04) and if you can reproduce the problem (by getting a segfault from grub-mkdevicemap or from grub-install after deleting /boot/grub/device.map) please file a bug report.
[07:49] <hamnegga> in order to get mplayerplug-in to work, I need to recompile mplayer from scratch and it's almost impossible with a backdated Lucid - hence why I hate running old distros when Backtrack decides to build off a *hitty base.
[07:49] <velofille> ouch
[07:49] <hamnegga> can't get any plugin to work on firefox with backtrack 5
[07:49] <velofille> upgrade not an option?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | hamnegga
[07:50] <hamnegga> no, not really.  I tried building my own pentesting distro with squeeze / linux mint debian and didn't get as far as I wanted
[07:50] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[07:50] <theos> hmm pulseaudio seems to be working fine :/
[07:50] <Jordan_U> hamnegga: And replacing a single letter in a swear word doesn't make it apropriate for this channel. Please don't do it again.
[07:50] <hamnegga> the trade-off between apps. is just about even, so I'm just trying to stick with backtrack 5
[07:51] <hamnegga> okay
[07:51] <hamnegga> I'm using Lucid, so don't worry about any distro derivative stuff
[07:51] <hamnegga> same difference
[07:52] <hamnegga> LTS baby, and BT channel isn't active enough for quick help
[07:52] <Jordan_U> hamnegga: This channel does not support Backtrack. Period.
[07:53] <midoski> I need some stupid linux help
[07:53] <hamnegga> whatever
[07:53] <theos> hi
[07:53] <midoski> 'allo
[07:53] <midoski> I have two users in the same group
[07:53] <chouchou> Hello, pls how do I add additional port to my localhost?
[07:53] <theos> hi! i need some help :) when i play youtube videos, then my downloaded audio doesnt sound. and when i play my downloaded songs, then youtube doesnt have sound. halp!
[07:53] <hamnegga> what's your issue.  I can still help folks I believe Jordan_U
[07:53] <midoski> I have User A and user B
[07:53] <rypervenche> !enter | midoski
[07:53] <midoski> ubottu: it gets kinda lengthy sorry
[07:53] <theos> :D
[07:53] <midoski> :(
[07:54] <hamnegga> !mplayer
[07:54] <midoski> rypervenche: sorry
[07:54] <hamnegga> !codecs
[07:54] <midoski> rypervenche: didnt realize it was so busy till is tarted typing
[07:54] <Jordan_U> hamnegga: I didn't say that you couldn't help people here. Just don't try to ask for support for problems you're having with Backtrack.
[07:54] <velofille> chouchou, you can't add more ports, an applicataion opens a port. You can add an extra IP if its externally connected
[07:54] <hamnegga> I'm not I'm running my Lucid partition right now
[07:54] <velofille> chouchou, (ie if it was a server)
[07:55] <midoski> I have User A and user B sharing a group (www-data), I set the permissions on a file in User A's /home/ to rwxrwx--x, and User B does not have permission to run it for some reason
[07:55] <chouchou> velofille, thanks, but it's like i have localhost here, and normally it's called via port 80,
[07:55] <midoski> I'm sure this is a misunderstanding on my part
[07:55] <velofille> chouchou, what are you doing ?
[07:55] <velofille> apache ?
[07:55] <hamnegga> midoski did you make it executable "chmod +x"?
[07:56] <chouchou> but the same port is shared with shared with other application i.e my adls rounter web interface, I want to add additional distinct port which i can use to configure my dyndns account
[07:56] <midoski> hamnegga: yes, but I can't even touch it
[07:56] <midoski> ie, su [userB]
[07:56] <midoski> $ touch [file]
[07:56] <midoski> permission denied
[07:56] <velofille> chouchou, sorry you cant do that, one application per port
[07:56] <chouchou> ok
[07:56] <hamnegga> try to cp it
[07:56] <midoski> it's treating User B like it's an other instead of a group
[07:56] <velofille> chouchou, apache can do proxying through to other applucations though (see mod_proxu_
[07:57] <velofille> chouchou, usually thats used for things like tomcat or similar
[07:57] <chouchou> ok,
[07:57] <midoski> hamnegga: "couldn't open file for reading" ugh
[07:57] <velofille> midoski, chmod +r ?
[07:57] <coolpyrofreak> midoski: Try as root
[07:57] <hamnegga> what's the address?  Is it public?
[07:57] <coolpyrofreak> midoski: or sudo
[07:58] <midoski> coolpyrofreak: exactly what im trying not to do
[07:58] <leagris> Hello, I Tryed a switch back from debian testing to natty. Oups, it wiped my partition after a failed attempt at installing buntu over the existing debian. It failed to delete system files and when I tryed option reinstalling ubuntu over ubuntu (partial install) it wiped the partition where resided home. Oups! Nonetheless I could not work with Unity as it hides too many thiings and is incompatible with compiz enhanced zoom. Still on the classic desktop. I'd
[07:58] <leagris> like to have a say as a visually impaired strongly relying on compiz ezoom and all the <super>+<wheel> to control zoom. Unity steal the <super> modifier and I feel it backward. How can I have a say on the next Ubuntu release about that issue?
[07:58] <chouchou> velofille, so what do I do ?
[07:58] <hamnegga> R u trying to access the file via user B from another workstation, or what?
[07:58] <velofille> chouchou, what is the other application using poirt 80?
[07:58] <coolpyrofreak> midoski: Why?  You're getting permission errors, which can be avoided with sudo.  Alternatively, you can su and run chown
[07:58] <Hanzo> uyudum
[07:58] <midoski> coolpyrofreak: because im trying to get really specific permissions set up
[07:59] <Hanzo> kac saat uyumuşum
[07:59] <chouchou> my adsl router web interface
[07:59] <midoski> and falling on my face
[07:59] <midoski> coolpyrofreak: my issue is specific to group permissions
[07:59] <midoski> not running the file
[07:59] <midoski> if that makes sense
[07:59] <velofille> chouchou, oh dear, then its not going to work. reconfigure your adsl router to run its web interface on another port ? thats usually do-able
[07:59] <Hanzo> 2 saat uyku
[07:59] <Hanzo> vay be
[07:59] <Hanzo> o kadar az uyudum mu
[07:59] <chouchou> ok
[07:59] <pishguy> hi all. who can help mefor this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10959496#post10959496
[07:59] <hamnegga> yeah, I have a script that simply does "chown -Rv www-data:www-data <filename>" and then restarts the apache server
[07:59] <R1cochet> what can i use to compress a bunch of image files? im looking for highest compression
[08:00] <hamnegga> I was having problems with my hosted files, until I also had to make them executable also
[08:00] <Jordan_U> !tr | Hanzo
[08:00] <hamnegga> what is the output of the said file with a ls -l
[08:00] <midoski> hamnegga: I have a lighttpd server that executes a script of a fastcgi server isn't found
[08:00] <midoski> but it runs the script as www-data
[08:01] <hamnegga> yeah, but I chown and chmod the file with sudo
[08:01] <hamnegga> does it say www-data:www-data under ls -l?
[08:01] <midoski> no because it belongs to a different user, and I'm trying to figure out why my group permissions aren't doing the job
[08:01] <midoski> i don't WANT www-data to chown it, I want user A to keep owningi t and allow user B to access it thanks to grouping + permissions
[08:02] <Hanzo> tamam
[08:02] <midoski> but for some reason it's being treated as other and not group
[08:02] <midoski> even though id userA and id userB show them as sharing that group
[08:02] <hamnegga> well it depends on whether your trying to access the file directly or through a web app
[08:02] <chouchou> how do I restart apache server again in ubuntu?
[08:02] <hamnegga> I'm not that up on web apps n' stuff, I just know you need those permissions for a webrowser to get them
[08:03] <midoski> hamnegga: really not the problem here :(
[08:03] <hamnegga> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:03] <Jordan_U> chouchou: sudo service apache2 restart
[08:03] <chouchou> thanks
[08:03] <hamnegga> either works
[08:03] <velofille> hamnegga, better to use the latter since its going to be the new cool way :D
[08:04] <hamnegga> yeah, that's all we need, to be more like microsoft and hide what we are really doing.
[08:05] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:05] <midoski> :( nobody useful around
[08:05] <midoski> i'll be back later
[08:06] <pishguy> who can help mefor this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10959496#post10959496
[08:08] <Corey> pishguy: I'd probably try it with sudo instead of gksudo.
[08:10] <Jonnn_> Can anyone help me fix my grub boot error?
[08:10] <Airris> using 10.04 - metacity. The window manager seems to be ignoring all global shortcuts while in fullscreen mode. It didn't used to do this. The ability to minimize/alt+tab a fullscreen app is kinda useful, how can i fix things?
[08:11] <crystal1> i
[08:11] <bullgard4> Airris: Please explain your problem more clearly.
[08:11] <histo> !ask Jonnn_
[08:11] <histo> !ask | Jonnn_
[08:12] <Airris> bullgard4 : alt+tab/alt+F9/alt+click/etc don't work anymore for any fullscreen app. I distinctly remember on this same OS, same system, being able to do that
[08:13] <ssdfosd> child actress Shirley Temple dies at the age of 83
[08:13] <Airris> Not sure what happened but something must have broke or a setting i don't know about got changed, but it looks like none of the global hotkeys are being trapped by the window manager anymore
[08:13] <babu__> how to run a .exe in wine..
[08:14] <Jonnn_> I boot my dual boot (windows 7, ubuntu 10.10) and get "error: unknown filesystem."  I want to uninstall my ubuntu partition completely but I cant boot into ubuntu or windows to do that.  Is there any way to fix my grub loader or switch back to the windows one?  I've looked online and nothing has worked
[08:14] <babu__> it shows executable is blocked
[08:14] <hamnegga> what file backs-up gnome panels?
[08:14] <hamnegga> anyone, anyone?
[08:15] <soreau> Airris: If the fullscreen app in question grabs the input, no window manager or any other process can do anything with it
[08:15] <hamnegga> fixmbr with a windows 98 cd
[08:15] <hamnegga> :)
[08:15] <Jonnn_> I tried it with my windows 7 but I dont have a windows 98 cd
[08:15] <crystal1> to john > re install 'grub'
[08:15] <Airris> soreau: that doesn't explain how it used to work before on the same software (both for the OS and the windowed app)
[08:15] <pumafyre> anyone have experience using Dragon Naturally Speaking in Wine?
[08:15] <Corey> ssargennto: Cite?
[08:15] <Airris> (err, the fullscreen app)
[08:16] <bullgard4> Airris: Alt+Tab normally works all right on a full-screen application in GNOME. So your GNOME is misconfured and needs repair. May be you should use gconf-editor for that in the metacity subnode.
[08:16] <hamnegga> try using ms-sy
[08:16] <hamnegga> ms-sys
[08:16] <bullgard4> misconfigured
[08:16] <pumafyre> like this tigerswan
[08:16] <soreau> Airris: Could be that you're misremembering or there was some fluke
[08:16] <Starminn> I am following the instructions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/covergloobus-1-6-wow-lives-up-to-its-name/ but the PPA seems to be bad, so I am trying to make it from the tar file; however I receive this error: "configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub" *** Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit. Any assistance is appreciated.
[08:16] <Airris> bullgard4, there anyway to restore gnome to defaults or something? I don't think i have many special settings at that level that would need to be preserved
[08:17] <forced> hey is it still possible to upgrade ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 or anything?
[08:17] <hamnegga> Jonn_ windows 7 cd, restore bootup option, usually works, I forget the details but you need to go to console and type ntldr options etc.  I think it's nt60 or something
[08:17] <pumafyre> does anyone know if there's a forum for using Wine?
[08:17] <bullgard4> Airris: Yes. Let me search for you.
[08:17] <forced> I am getting 404 erros while trying to install update manager core
[08:17] <hamnegga> look it up
[08:17] <Jonnn_> I did the boot repair option and it said nothing is wrong with it
[08:17] <crystal1> who tested lubuntu ? My left handed mouse crash. Only the "right hand" mode work for me..
[08:17] <pinkfox> is it possible to DOWNGRADE from 11.04 to a previous version of ubuntu?
[08:17] <Airris> pumafyre, there is, but i'll warn you they're typically not all that helpful
[08:18] <Corey> pinkfox: Not any supported way, no.
[08:18] <hamnegga> did you run gparted and see if the right partition is flagged boot/active
[08:18] <Airris> pumafyre, http://forum.winehq.org/
[08:18] <Jonnn_> Which one should be active?
[08:18] <pumafyre> ha I know I just got kicked out of their room, Airris
[08:18] <pumafyre> thank you Airris
[08:18] <Airris> np
[08:18] <Starminn> !wine > pumafyre (I agree with Airris though)
[08:18] <Jonnn_> I have my windows one set active now, but it was my ubuntu partition before
[08:18] <hamnegga> the one your trying to boot obviously, which is where you probably overwrote your mbr with grub
[08:18] <bullgard4> Airris: Try '~$ gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel' und danach: '~$ pkill gnome-panel'.
[08:18] <Guest67451> Should I install gentoo?
[08:19] <hamnegga> that's why I always put grub on the native linux partition and then mark that as active instead of overwriting /dev/sda1
[08:19] <Guest67451> And does $apt-get install gentoo count?
[08:19] <bullgard4> Airris: Try '~$ gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel'  followed by: '~$ pkill gnome-panel'.
[08:19] <Starminn> !upgrade | forced
[08:19] <Jonnn_> I dont know where I put grub, i just did the default install
[08:19] <Airris> :D thanks bullgard4 (i was about to ask "is that german in the middle?" )
[08:19] <pishguy> corey: sudo can't getting password from gui
[08:19] <hamnegga> that's your problem Jonn_ you should learn what your doing and you'll soon understand what to do.
[08:20] <BuenGenio> hello
[08:20] <BuenGenio> Apache2 on my 11.04 server doesn't restart properly
[08:20] <Corey> pishguy: No, but you can invoke the entire script via sudo.
[08:20] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:20] <peterhil`> Hi! Where is the Chromium browser prefs file located?
[08:20] <BuenGenio> after service apache2 restart - it just hangs saying ... waiting ...........................
[08:20] <Corey> bullgard4: How does it restart then?
[08:20] <BuenGenio> but never restarts
[08:20] <crystal1> hello
[08:20] <hamnegga> what partition do you have windows on, and what partition do you have linux on?  restore mbr to your windows parition by setting that partition active and running the windows cmd repair tool and /fixmbr
[08:20] <BuenGenio> additionally apache2 can only be killed with -S KILL
[08:21] <Corey> BuenGenio: What does the log say when you're doing that?
[08:21] <pishguy> Corey: how to ?
[08:21] <bullgard4> Airris: What is "it"?
[08:21] <BuenGenio> Corey, error.log or which one?
[08:22] <Corey> BuenGenio: Either or.
[08:22] <Corey> BuenGenio: daemon.log may also be of use.
[08:22] <Airris> bullgard4, That was corey asking, and i think he meant what restarts gnome after those two commands
[08:22] <Jonnn_> My Windows partition is active, so now I run startup repair and then do /fixmbr in command prompt?
[08:23] <bullgard4> Corey: After this operation you can restart GNOME in the usual way. For example: sudo service gem stop && sudo service gdm restart.
[08:23] <bullgard4> Corey: After this operation you can restart GNOME in the usual way. For example: sudo service gdm stop && sudo service gdm restart.
[08:23] <BuenGenio> Corey, [Mon Jun 20 11:23:36 2011] [warn] child process 26322 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM
[08:24] <BuenGenio> [Mon Jun 20 11:23:43 2011] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[08:24] <hamnegga> Jonn_  google using bootrec.exe via the windows 7 installation disc
[08:24] <Corey> bullgard4: ?
[08:24] <BuenGenio> Corey, and now still sits there saying waiting.................
[08:24] <bullgard4> Corey: ?
[08:24] <Corey> BuenGenio: So it is actually dying.  Interesting.
[08:24] <BuenGenio> but doesn't come back up
[08:24] <Corey> bullgard4: I didn't have a question, so why are you telling me this? :)
[08:24] <bullgard4> Corey: I made a mistake.
[08:24] <Corey> BuenGenio: You running a stock config?
[08:25] <bullgard4> Airris: After this operation you can restart GNOME in the usual way. For example: sudo service gdm stop && sudo service gdm restart.
[08:25] <Starminn> I am following the instructions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/covergloobus-1-6-wow-lives-up-to-its-name/ but the PPA seems to be bad, so I am trying to make it from the tar file; however I receive this error: "configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub" *** Ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit. Any assistance is appreciated.
[08:25] <BuenGenio>  Corey, ok now it actually dropped me back to shell
[08:25] <BuenGenio> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[08:25] <BuenGenio> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[08:25] <BuenGenio> Unable to open logs
[08:25] <BuenGenio> that's it
[08:26] <BuenGenio> Corey:  ps aux | grep apache
[08:26] <vorbis5> hey guys, which vim is preferable: vim, vim-gnome, vim-gtk or vim-nox?
[08:26] <BuenGenio> root     22413  0.0  0.6  56344 13536 ?        Ss   10:12   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[08:26] <BuenGenio> but I can only kill that process via SIGKILL
[08:26] <hamnegga> nano is my preference
[08:27] <vorbis5> ha
[08:27] <hamnegga> started to learn vim with vim, but didn't really see the point
[08:27] <vorbis5> alright
[08:28] <hamnegga> if your gonna program, wouldn't you just learn it's own language's respective shell anyways?
[08:30] <pumafyre> thank you Starminn
[08:31] <Airris> bullgard4, didn't work. although i'm just going to restore gnome as a whole to defaults. see what that does.
[08:32] <Jonnn_> hamnegga  When I try fixmbr it says it is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable or batch file.  Any idea what that means?
[08:34] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:34] <forced> so is ubuntu 9.04 EOL? no more repos?
[08:35] <bullgard4> forced: more or less: Yes.
[08:35] <forced> darn well thanks :)
[08:35] <forced> il just have to migrate that stupid server lol
[08:37] <santak> i am compiling a c program on my windows drive using gcc program.c and it produces a.out executable and on executing it by writing ./a.out in terminal it shows ./a.out: permission denied
[08:38] <santak> please help
[08:39] <hamnegga> chmod +x a.out
[08:39] <hamnegga> then ./a.out
[08:40] <santak> i tried chmod even with sudo su  but it's not working
[08:41] <hamnegga> really
[08:41] <hamnegga> that's strange
[08:41] <hamnegga> did you try using chown -Rv <username>:<username> <filename>
[08:42] <santak> yeah i come across an article saying about that in ubuntu 11.04 the ntfs drives are being mounted in noexec mode can anyone suggest a way to modify it
[08:42] <MrEgg964> Hey all - I have 2 NICs on a single computer. How do I know which one Skype is using and, additionally, how do I force Skype to use a particular NIC?
[08:43] <hamnegga> edit your mtab or fstab and see if they are getting the rw or just r
[08:43] <hamnegga> umount and then mount it to a new folder
[08:43] <wildbat> santak: remount it or cp to you home dir
[08:44] <hamnegga> mine work fine and here's what they look like in /etc/mtab:
[08:44] <hamnegga> /dev/sda1 /media/Blackcomb-Vienna fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions 0 0
[08:44] <hamnegga> /dev/sdb1 /media/Blackcomb-Vienna_ fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions 0 0
[08:47] <mairt> Hiii
[08:47] <mairt> SOS
[08:47] <mairt> EMERGENCY HERE
[08:47] <mairt> GConf error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: GetIOR failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus))
[08:47] <velofille> ps aux |grep gconf
[08:48] <mairt> hii
[08:48] <velofille>  ?
[08:48] <mairt> velofille: cant open terminal
[08:48] <mairt> panel isnt there
[08:48] <hamnegga> ctl+alt+F1
[08:48] <velofille> bet me too that hamnegga :)
[08:48] <hamnegga> F1-F6
[08:48] <mairt> alt+f2 isnt working
[08:48] <velofille> what hamnegga says
[08:49] <velofille> is this on natty ? 11.04 ?
[08:49] <hamnegga> I don't know why, but my xserver dies when I use ctl+alt+F1 and then try to come back via F7
[08:50] <hamnegga> not worried about it though
[08:50] <velofille> mairt, start a dbus session bus or use dbus-launch
[08:50] <hamnegga> yeah, I would do /etc/init.d/dbus restart, which is what I had to do a lot using KDE 3.5
[08:50] <eycel> anyone help me?
[08:50] <velofille> start a dbus session bus or use dbus-launch
[08:50] <mairt> mairt how do i do that
[08:51] <velofille> eycel, if you ask
[08:51] <mairt> and when i type your command of ps aux it shows something
[08:51] <eycel>  Im running the latest build of solaris, Im attempting to install flash for firefox but Im stuck at getting root acess, I cant edit the sudoers file either
[08:51] <velofille> mairt, what hamnegga said '/etc/init.d/dbus restart'
[08:51] <Mod-R-Focker> im a noobe .. that said .. apache2 question my www folder is in /var/www  and  i cannot add to that folder becouse im not root .. how can i change that folders permissions ??
[08:51] <velofille> some say logging out and loggoing back in fixed that
[08:51] <SADsd> hi dudes.. i have a big problem.. i used a theme as a user ( Lam ) in my ubuntu 9.10 and it was corrupted and now i can't login
[08:51] <mairt> velofille: loggin out didnt fix it
[08:52] <mairt> should i type /etc/init.d/dbus restart in terminal?
[08:52] <SADsd> in the login screen it doesn't login and just show me the login screen all the time
[08:52] <velofille> yes
[08:52] <hamnegga> chown -Rv <username>:<username> <directory or filename>  for apache2:  chown -Rv www-data:www-data /var/www/*
[08:52] <velofille> SADsd, whats the erroor message?
[08:52] <SADsd> what can i do to remove the settings ? to put another theme in the user.. I am from root
[08:52] <Mod-R-Focker> thanks
[08:52] <hamnegga> then restart your apache2 server
[08:52] <velofille> SADsd, try using lowercase lam ? or go to console and remove/re-add it
[08:52] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[08:53] <SADsd> no error message. I am just trying to login and it stucks , and blinks , and show me the login screen
[08:53] <smftre> What is the best mail server to configure for ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[08:53] <hamnegga> SADsd, type startx and tell us what it says
[08:53] <velofille> smftre, postfix
[08:53] <SADsd> velofille, what shoud i do ?
[08:53] <SADsd> i am logged in now with root
[08:53] <velofille> smftre, its good for smaller or even medium sites, also easy to setup
[08:54] <SADsd> only with a user that doesn't use the settings of my user i can login
[08:54] <velofille> SADsd, grep -i Lam /etc/passwd
[08:54] <smftre> velofille, thanks, is it easy to migrate all mail from one server to another running postfix?
[08:54] <hamnegga> probably compiz messed it up SADsd.  Delete it's config files
[08:54] <velofille> SADsd, that will show if the user still exists
[08:54] <SADsd> i don't have compiz in my user
[08:54] <SADsd> enabled*
[08:54] <velofille> smftre, usually yes, just a matter of putting it on the right place
[08:54] <Mod-R-Focker> hamnegga: is it my user name fist and and then root?
[08:55] <smftre> so can basically just copy the "mail" folder over to the other server, as long as the same email addresses are added there too?
[08:55] <hamnegga> if it's for apache2 then just use www-data for both
[08:55] <SADsd> Lam:x:1000:1000:Lam,,,:/home/Lam:/bin/bash
[08:55] <hamnegga> if you plan on accessing the files on the server
[08:55] <velofille> SADsd, you can go into the home directory and reomve any config files  , cd /home/username and rm .compiz .gtk* etc or any other configs
[08:55] <hamnegga> I'm not an expert on permissions, but I usually use the same username for both
[08:56] <hamnegga> :)
[08:56] <SADsd> all the config files.. Which of them ?
[08:56] <velofille> SADsd, .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd
[08:56] <hamnegga> r u sure it's not a driver issue SADsd
[08:56] <velofille> SADsd, all of those files are fine to remove usually
[08:56] <hamnegga> probably not if you can login with another user
[08:56] <velofille> SADsd, it just resets the desktop settings
[08:57] <Hanzo> selamlar herkese günaydin
[08:57] <SADsd> yes it is not a driver issue
[08:57] <hamnegga> yeah, you can probably just delete everything, but your gonna loose your panels, etc
[08:57] <SADsd> just happened when i changed the theme
[08:57] <SADsd> ok so i delete this ? .gtkrc-2.0 ?
[08:57] <velofille> ahhnow hes probably in tyes
[08:57] <velofille> oops
[08:57] <velofille> yes, thats fine to delete
[08:57] <Hanzo> ooooo deva da burdaymıs
[08:57] <SADsd> what will i loose ?
[08:57] <Hanzo> hocam ozledım senle konusmayı yahu )))
[08:57] <SADsd> if i delete the folders ?
[08:58] <velofille> nothing much, just gnome settings
[08:58] <Hanzo> oooo bu bizi unutmus
[08:58] <velofille> themes, some saved setups and layouts (ie things in panels or similar)
[08:58] <hamnegga> yeah, I lose mine every time I update, because I hate using "Desktop" as a directory.  Anyone know how I can permanently use /root/ as my home directory even after upgrades?
[08:58] <velofille> alternatively you can look through them and find the file with the theme set
[08:59] <velofille> remove that
[08:59] <Lasers> Anybody here used netatalk to communicate between Mac & Linux? I'm trying to set it up. I don't know where I went wrong with. :)
[08:59] <SADsd> ok thanks..i will login again..
[08:59] <Hanzo> simdi ayip ettin abi nasil unutursun
[08:59] <eycel> can some one help me get root access in solaris?
[08:59] <apb> "Ubuntu Software Center" won't show a list of installed software; I just see a spinning wheel. Is there a cache I can delete or a way of manually updating an index?
[08:59] <hamnegga> I typically edit nautilus desktop with gconf-editor, but then I end up having to do it again after an upgrade, and then I lose all my panel configs which is wicked annoying
[08:59] <Mod-R-Focker> hamnegga: sweet thank man it worked .. the first command
[08:59] <hamnegga> nice
[09:00] <Hanzo> Adim hüseyin devastator la önceden tanisiyordukta unutmus
[09:01] <smftre> How different is Exim from Postfix? As I will need to move mail from one server running Exim to another one running Postfix!?
[09:01] <hamnegga> velofille, do you know which file I can backup for my gnome panels?
[09:01] <Lasers> hamnegga: ~/.gnome or ~/.gnome2 -- There should be gnome-panel directory.
[09:02] <Hanzo> abi senin kafa 1001 olduysa biz napalim
[09:02] <velofille> nope, but i expect it will be one of the .gtk* .gconf* or .gnome* dirs
[09:02] <velofille> they seem to have split it up now, unlike kde which uses just the one dir
[09:02] <Untrustworthy> hey, I realize that karmic is probably not supported any longer, but maybe someone could give me a quick answer for something...  But I think it's giving me a false positive, since it's telling me that my HD has "many bad sectors".. is this something that version of ubuntu has been known to do in the past?
[09:03] <james296> has anyone here noticed the desktop icons appear under the unity launcher when upgrading to nautilus-elementary?
[09:03] <james296> I get that, is there any way to fix this issue?
[09:03] <velofille> Untrustworthy, its probably on its way out
[09:03] <koshieFinalReliz> Hi, I'm trying to chroot on CentOS 5.6 with a recovery mod of Ubuntu 10.04, the both are in 64 bits, I'm doing that : http://pastebin.com/G83eV1Um
[09:03] <koshieFinalReliz> An idea ?
[09:03] <velofille> Untrustworthy, thats not really distro related, backup immediately
[09:03] <koshieFinalReliz> It don't work
[09:04] <Untrustworthy> yeah, I'm in the middle of doing that
[09:04] <Lasers> Untrustworthy: The older version detected bad sectors. The newer version are going to say the same thing.
[09:04] <Untrustworthy> yikes, all right
[09:04] <james296> anyone?
[09:04] <hamnegga> /root/.gnome2/panel2.d/ will backup everything on my panels u think?
[09:05] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, i would try booting the cd in recovery mode or edit the grub conf
[09:05] <Untrustworthy> well, thanks for the input
[09:05] <hamnegga> anyone know of any good games for linux that are pretty good graphics?
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, it's a dedicated server… :-
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> :-(
[09:05] <apb> smftre: exim and postfix server configuration is completely different
[09:05] <Hanzo> dogrudur
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, and I need to edit a file in /etc.
[09:05] <Untrustworthy> Hamnegga, cube 2
[09:05] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, when the cd gives you the boot menu, press e to edit, then edit the grub config, change the root= to the right place
[09:05] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, read me :)
[09:05] <Hanzo> iyi , sen neler yapiyorsun
[09:05] <james296> can anyone plz help me out with what I asked?
[09:06] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, bugger :)
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, oh okay :D
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> you or me ? ;)
[09:06] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, what are you trying to do exactly
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, chroot
[09:06] <koshieFinalReliz> for edit a file in /etc.
[09:07] <velofille> you did chroot into /media/system , yoiu just had no shell to run once there
[09:07] <james296> PLZ someone help me
[09:07] <velofille> is there /media/system/bin/bash ?
[09:07] <velofille> can you put one there even if its a binary ?
[09:07] <K1ng> anyone from thailand?
[09:07] <hamnegga> all u guys can save all this hassle by simply making your user uid set to equal root uid=-0
[09:07] <hamnegga> uid=0
[09:07] <velofille> james296, not sure what you asked
[09:08] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, Give me a seconde
[09:08] <velofille> hamnegga, hey thats nasty
[09:08] <hamnegga> I always use root, never have these permissions problems :)
[09:08] <james296> I asked if its possible to prevent the desktop icons from going under the unity bar instead of next to it
[09:08] <james296> when you click auto arrange
[09:08] <Hanzo> simdi kurabilirsin
[09:08] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, I don't have /bin… In /media/system I've /proc, /grub, /dev, and lost+found/
[09:08] <velofille> i once jokingly told a friend to /exec rm -rf /* when he irc'd as root
[09:08] <hamnegga> yeah, I'd like to see anyone pwn my system if it's unsafe, I have multiple services open and I'm NAT so, if they're they're then own the vulns please
[09:09] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, do you have bin on another partition? that needs to be there to work
[09:09] <Hanzo> super
[09:09] <velofille> Popsicle_, dont spam me
[09:09] <Hanzo> yes
[09:09] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, I have no more… It's very odd right ?
[09:09] <velofille> hamnegga, anyway, he had windows mounted and lost everything
[09:09] <james296> did you get what I asked?
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> Popsicle_ spam me in PM.
[09:10] <hamnegga> what's the matter with the windows partition
[09:10] <velofille> james296, yep, hang on, getting mega spammed by Popsicle_ , just had to put him on ignore
[09:10] <velofille> you too koshieFinalReliz ?
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> Anyone can ban him from internet :} ?!
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, Yes.
[09:10] <hamnegga> use ntfs-3g and force mount it, I'm sure everything is still there
[09:10] <velofille> somebody want to ban Popsicle_ ?
[09:10] <james296> yes he spammed me
[09:10] <james296> too
[09:10] <james296> called me the N word meanwhile Im white...
[09:10] <velofille> by ban i mean kick in the jewels
[09:10] <koshieFinalReliz> We call op ?
[09:10] <avernos> i am playing with ssh -X and there is something i dont understand. when i call gnome-session, it overlaps my current local gnome session, i can see both local apps and remote apps, is this normal?
[09:11] <hamnegga> I'll do one better than ban? ;)
[09:11] <velofille> james296, sorry, notsure how to do what you are asking, right click on desk top and line up icons fix it ?
[09:11] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, I coming back
[09:11] <koshieFinalReliz> +'m
[09:11] <hamnegga> yeah, open it on a different port
[09:11] <velofille> ok where were we koshieFinalReliz , mounting a /bin dir ?
[09:11] <james296> no it doesnt, thats what Im saying
[09:12] <james296> which is why I want to know how to correct that issue
[09:12] <velofille> james296, not sure, i got sick of unity :/
[09:12] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, how ?
[09:12] <james296> Im doing my best to get used to it lol
[09:12] <koshieFinalReliz> When I do a chroot I've never a problem, first time… (sorry for my english)
[09:12] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, where is your /bin dir ? is it normally mounted ?
[09:12] <koshieFinalReliz> I don't think so.
[09:12] <hamnegga> yeah, velofille, how is unity to gnome or kde?
[09:12] <james296> Inity sucks
[09:12] <hamnegga> haven't tried it yhet
[09:12] <james296> Unity*
[09:12] <th^^> unity <3
[09:12] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, check the etc/fstab to see if and where its normally mounted if it is. If its not there then you need to reinstall
[09:13] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, how did it get so broken in the first place? hacked?
[09:13] <james296> has anyone here noticed in Kubuntu Amarok playlist is like a dark blue instead of the standard blue?
[09:14] <james296> or is it purplish? I forget
[09:14] <velofille> dont use it sorry :)
[09:14] <james296> and if so, how can that be fixed because I enjoy using KDE as well
[09:14] <velofille> how did i end up spending my evebning doing for free what i get paid to do during the day?
[09:14] <apb> solved my problem with broken Ubuntu Softwre Center: http_proxy environment variable was wrong
[09:15] <velofille> yeah that helps when you have a proxy :)
[09:15] <chouchou> Hello, pls can someone check on <IP_ADDRESS>:8031 ?
[09:15] <chouchou> via http
[09:15] <velofille> connection refused chouchou
[09:15] <velofille> did you allow ports to go through on the adsl router ?
[09:15] <kalkin> hi
[09:15] <kalkin> hi
[09:15] <velofille> hi
[09:15] <chouchou> euh...
[09:16] <chouchou> I think it's set by default
[09:16] <kalkin> i updated my ubuntu 64bit server from 10.10 to 11.4
[09:16] <chouchou> iet me quickly check
[09:16] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[09:16] <velofille> chouchou, most adsl routers deny by default
[09:16] <hamnegga> nope
[09:16] <chouchou> I am using smartax 886
[09:16] <kalkin> now it doesn't boot, i have some strange setup with /boot on /dev/md1 and root on /dev/md2
[09:16] <velofille> bullgard4, might want to ask in a gnome chanel, i have seen some but dont recall what they were
[09:16] <hamnegga> chouchou:  check this http://mcurran-exploit.dyndns.org
[09:16] <kalkin> i tried chrooting and doing update-grub but it doen't help
[09:16] <hamnegga> urs ain't working
[09:17] <hamnegga> r u static and have port forwarding set on your router (i.e. dmz or nat?)
[09:17] <bullgard4> velofille: I have done so. Thank you.
[09:17] <velofille> kalkin, md* is a raid
[09:17] <velofille> kalkin, = koshieFinalReliz ?
[09:17] <chouchou> Hamlin, is it from your local pc?
[09:18] <kalkin> velofille: i know that md ist raid
[09:18] <kalkin> velofille:  koshieFinalReliz ?
[09:18] <kalkin> velofille: what do you mean with that?
[09:18] <velofille> never mind
[09:18] <velofille> getting confused between people :)
[09:18] <hamnegga> I'm psyched verizon stopped blocking my incoming port 80 finally, so I no longer have to use different ports.  Too bad I already learned how to setup virtualhosts n' everything though, keeps things neat
[09:19] <velofille> that sounds like a normal setup regarding boot being on /dev/md1 and root on md2 , you may just need to re-run grub to get it going again
[09:19] <hamnegga> md1 what is that for SDD's?
[09:19] <hamnegga> SSD's I mean?
[09:19] <velofille> nope, raid
[09:19] <hamnegga> oh
[09:20] <kalkin> has anyone an idea or hint where the problem is?
[09:20] <velofille> kalkin, grub by the sounds
[09:20] <velofille> kalkin, run grub-installer ?
[09:20] <kalkin> velofille: i did update-grub, i thought thats enough?
[09:20] <hamnegga> nah
[09:21] <kalkin> but i can try with grub-installer
[09:21] <velofille> kalkin, whats the error ?
[09:21] <hamnegga> I don't like grub2
[09:21] <hamnegga> made it way too complicated
[09:21] <hamnegga> and custom file doesnt' even work
[09:21] <velofille> you need to have lots of linux fu
[09:21] <hamnegga> anyone here experiment with it's newer res. capabilities?
[09:22] <velofille> <- Linux guru
[09:22] <kalkin> velofille: don't know can't see it because it's to fast (using a java serial konsole, via my server provider) i'm beeing thrown in too bash like grub2 prompt
[09:22] <velofille> though, to be fair, i dont usually mess about with the pretty side of things
[09:22] <hamnegga> yeah, I just edit grub.cfg as I please still :)
[09:23] <velofille> kalkin, hmm so what commands do you have? linux ones or grub ones? (grub has a neat console to run commands)
[09:23] <velofille> kalkin, does it spit out normal booting up messages before dieing ?
[09:23] <velofille> screenshot or pastebin may help kalkin :)
[09:23] <Hanzo> ben AFK yim 10 dk
[09:23] <Hanzo> gelirim
[09:24] <kalkin> velofille: can't do screenshot or pastebin
[09:24] <kalkin> it's an java serial console, it's a remote server
[09:24] <velofille> may pay to contact the provider or pay somebody to look at it and get it going if you need it urgently
[09:24] <koshieFinalReliz> velofille, It's initialy a problem with ssh, sorry but I g2g, but thanks for you help
[09:24] <koshieFinalReliz> I will ask on a forum
[09:25] <velofille> koshieFinalReliz, np, good luck
[09:25] <koshieFinalReliz> I'm not kalkin :)
[09:25] <koshieFinalReliz> Good bye
[09:25] <velofille> yeah i guessed
[09:25] <hamnegga> I want 3D acceleration with grub and won't be satified until I see it.  Don't know why it took so long for friggen framebuffer support
[09:26] <velofille> framebuffer has been around for years and years, and why would you want 3d accel on bootup?
[09:26] <th^^> to see spinning cube in boot ofc
[09:26] <velofille> man, i recall when frame buffer came out, back in those days we lifved in console so it was AMAZING!
[09:26] <velofille> wasted cpu cycles :)
[09:27] <hamnegga> :0
[09:28] <Kudzu> .darkmyst.com
[09:29] <kalkin> if i doo grub-install what device should be INSTALL_DEVICE?
[09:29] <kalkin> /dev/md1 (which is /boot)?
[09:30] <velofille> kalkin, the boot usually
[09:30] <velofille> however usually the first drive first partition
[09:30] <hamnegga> yeah, just check with gparted and see which is active, probably that one if you can tell
[09:30] <velofille> if you are able to run grub-install then you are already in linux kalkin
[09:31] <rokr1> hello all
[09:31] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[09:31] <hamnegga> it'll show boot under the flags column
[09:31] <rokr1> I cannot bridge iwl3945
[09:31] <kalkin> velofille: no i'm in a resque system, i just chrooted
[09:31] <rokr1> driver
[09:31] <hamnegga> what kind of question is that bullgard4 for christ's sake
[09:31] <velofille> kalkin, ahh ok
[09:31] <rokr1> which I can do in debian
[09:31] <kalkin> the problem is /boot on a raid
[09:31] <yogesh> h
[09:31] <hamnegga> I'm gonna get some rest, 4:30 A.M. here.
[09:31] <hamnegga> talk to u guys lata
[09:31] <kalkin> i'm not sure if i can just do grub-install /dev/md1 without breaking anything
[09:31] <velofille> sure you can
[09:31] <kalkin> oder grub-install /dev/sda
[09:31] <hamnegga> find grub
[09:32] <velofille> it only writes to the first 512 bytes of a partition/drive
[09:32] <hamnegga> see where it finds it
[09:32] <velofille> i need to go to bed anyway, its getting late
[09:32] <kalkin> WTF? grub and grub2 isn't installed
[09:33] <velofille> bingo
[09:33] <kalkin> only grub-common and grub-pc?
[09:33] <kalkin> but lilo is installed
[09:33] <kalkin> so i just have to fix lilo
[09:34] <msait> hii
[09:34] <msait> emergency here
[09:34] <msait> computer crashing due to power ouitage
[09:34] <msait> and eror sown isn
[09:34] <msait> GConf error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: GetIOR failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus))
[09:34] <hamnegga> yeah, syslinux is cool too
[09:34] <msait> please help
[09:34] <FloodBot1> msait: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <hamnegga> pretty much the same
[09:34] <msait> panel and nothing is being shown
[09:34] <msait> ok FloodBot1
[09:35] <msait> FloodBot1: cant open amything
[09:35] <msait> it randomly closes
[09:35] <rokr1> guys
[09:36] <msait> any help please
[09:36] <rokr1> any one who was successful with iwl3945 bridging ?
[09:36] <rokr1> I am stuck
[09:37] <msait> HELP PLEASE
[09:37] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[09:37] <msait> I earlier asked for help but firefox just went invisible
[09:38] <q0_0p> need help with webcam
[09:38] <q0_0p> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 10f1:1a1e Importek Laptop Integrated Webcam 1.3M
[09:38] <q0_0p> runs but terrible lag
[09:38] <msait> plzzz
[09:38] <msait> any1 help please
[09:39] <udoprog> I'm looking for gnome-appearance-properties while running oneiric dev, apt-file claims that it resides in gnome-control-center (after purge and update), but when installing the package the command (/usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties) is nowhere to be found, any help?
[09:40] <DJones> udoprog: You'll be better asking that in #ubuntu+1 which is the channel for oneiric development until its released
[09:40] <udoprog> DJones: k, thanks
[09:41] <msait> any1 here
[09:41] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[09:41] <msait> I am getting a dbus error
[09:42] <pishguy1> how to add acronis to live boot?
[09:45] <Mod-R-Focker> ok this is the 3rd time tonight .. Firefox crashes , then i cant open programs like the Ubuntu monitor , or Libreoffice.. but Empathy worked .. what log should i check to see why this is happening ? 11.04
[09:45] <DJones> msait: Its a bit quiet in here at the minute, If you ask your question at 15 minute intervals, it'll give chance for people in the channel to change/com online & one of them may be able to help you
[09:45] <msait> koi hai be yaha
[09:45] <mkquist> anyone  know of software the lets you mount iso's in ubuntu 64 bit? gmount doesnt want to install...
[09:46] <msait> DJones: I am not doing it on purpose.. Firefox when I minimized it it went blank
[09:46] <msait> so i had to relogin
[09:46] <kalkin> argle i executed lilo and installed it to mbr but it's still starts grub
[09:46] <kalkin> no idea why
[09:47] <pishguy1> how to add acronis to live boot?
[09:47] <DJones> msait: No worries, I can see you're not asking very often, just didn't want you getting frustrated not getting any response so thought it was worth mentioning
[09:47] <msait> any ideaI cant open anything
[09:47] <msait> its showing error http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[09:48] <Mod-R-Focker> msait: are u running 11.04 sounds like your having the same issue as me?
[09:48] <msait> yeah
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> mkquist: use: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/filename.iso /media/iso
[09:48] <msait> 11.04
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> mkquist: works on ANY linux distro :)
[09:49] <Mod-R-Focker> did Fire fox crash and some programs not open after?
[09:49] <msait> the power outage shutdown led to this
[09:49] <msait> no panel and terminal not workng either
[09:49] <msait> when I open any subfolder same error
[09:52] <thauriswulfa> IS it possible to remove gnome, install xfce de and keep unity
[09:53] <Heinz_L_Maennche> thauriswulfa, yes
[09:54] <thauriswulfa> Heinz_L_Maennche:how to do that?
[09:55] <Mandrew> can i do irc in the terminal to?
[09:55] <DJones> Mandrew: You can use irssi for irc in the terminal
[09:56] <DJones> !irssi | Mandrew
[09:57] <Mandrew> ok DJones so its just to sudo ap-get install irssi?
[09:57] <Heinz_L_Maennche> thauriswulfa, "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:57] <DJones> Mandrew: I have a feeling that its installed by default, but if not, yes that command will install it
[09:58] <Mandrew> ok tnx DJones
[09:58] <Heinz_L_Maennche> you don't have to remove gnoem unless you have a small hdd
[09:58] <thauriswulfa> Heinz_L_Maennche: no , just tell me if I remove gnome after installing xfce , unity will be there or is there other procedure to keep unity?
[09:59] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[09:59] <pcoder> Hi, I have just installed a brand new Ubuntu 11.04, and I have some issue with empathy messenger, Does anyone know if empathy supports new email notifications?? I use pidgin and it does..
[09:59] <Heinz_L_Maennche> thauriswulfa, if u remove gnome it won't touch your unity-desktop
[09:59] <Heinz_L_Maennche> ;-)
[10:00] <thauriswulfa> Heinz_L_Maennche: thanx
[10:00] <msait> hii
[10:01] <msait> i am getting error /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:01] <msait> sorry the error is
[10:01] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[10:01] <msait> i cant open anything at all
[10:01] <msait> the panel is gone
[10:01] <msait> http://pastebin.com/cBDGXvwQ
[10:03] <Mod-R-Focker> system has locked up after Firefox crash .. mannaged to supply my sys log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629735/ this is the 3rd time tonight it has happened . 11.04
[10:05] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: Did you test your RAM yet?
[10:05] <Mod-R-Focker> no and i did just add a stick too
[10:06] <Mod-R-Focker> i have on 1 gig and one 2 gig would that mismatch be a bad thing?
[10:06] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: Do a RAM test.  Bad RAM is the Number1 cause of complete system lockups.
[10:06] <Mod-R-Focker> k
[10:07] <histo> Mod-R-Focker: that and power bad power supplies
[10:07] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: If it is mismatched, just take out what does not match.
[10:07] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: Yes, as histo says, power supplies are prolly Number2 cause.
[10:08] <Mod-R-Focker> yeah i was wondering if running a 1gig with a 2 gig was a big deal or not
[10:08] <histo> Mod-R-Focker: just run a memtest from the cd and you will find out
[10:08] <mandrew_> im using irssi now, this is so cool tnx DJones
[10:08] <DJones> Mandrew: Your welcome
[10:08] <Hanzo> Sue , millet daha indirmedi oyunu
[10:08] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: No, it is not  bad.  1 gig and 2 gig sitcks are ok.  But what ever new one you have in there is prolly bad.
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker> k
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker>  ill check it put
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker> thanks
[10:09] <mandrew_> can i use the terminal for web surfing to?
[10:09] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: And you have to let the RAM test run for several hours.
[10:09] <Mod-R-Focker> Fun
[10:09] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: ...until you see errors appear, sometimes it is not on the first pass.
[10:10] <usr13> bit just go in and check ever so offten and see if you see errors.  Be patient.
[10:10] <DJones> !lynx | Mandrew Yes you can, Links2 or edbrowse looking at ubottu's links,
[10:10] <usr13> take out a RAM stick, (the one you suspect to be bad), test again.
[10:12] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: 1gig of RAM may not be enough for Win7 but it's ok for Linux. (2 is great but for most desktop users 1 is enough.)
[10:12] <Mandrew> tnx DJones
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: just no flash, otherwise its great :0
[10:14] <sara> i need a friend
[10:15] <Mandrew> ActionParsnip less flash for the ppl :D
[10:15] <pcoder> any one knows if empathy supports new email notifications???
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Mandrew: hehe
[10:16] <sara> i need a friend
[10:16] <SOLEIL> where ar you,sara
[10:16] <Udonnome> lol
[10:16] <SOLEIL> first use irc
[10:17] <usr13> sara: What is your problem?
[10:17] <sara> i hate the god
[10:17] <sara> i will bild my own
[10:17] <usr13> sara: We can't help you with that.  Sorry.
[10:18] <p1oooop> hey guys..
[10:18] <odix> got a problem
[10:18] <p1oooop> col doesn't seem to work with tail for me...
[10:18] <usr13> sara: If you have support question for Ubutnu, we can help.
[10:18] <p1oooop> tail -f <file> | col -bx is not working.
[10:18] <Night-Hacks> is there any proper way to get my installed date ?
[10:18] <p1oooop> !problem|odix
[10:19] <usr13> p1oooop: don't pipe it to anything and it will work.
[10:19] <p1oooop> usr13: as in no | ing?
[10:19] <usr13> p1oooop: What file are you trying to tail -f  ?
[10:20] <p1oooop> usr13: my apache logs.
[10:20] <Meeow> erm, any help for file sharing per ssh ?
[10:20] <p1oooop> usr13: that or the IRC channel logs that I'm monitoring.
[10:20] <odix> i have two hdds, each had an install of ubuntu server on it, sata, now i have an install i want on my new SSD, the old one has an install to, when i plug them both in, it doesnt boot, im assuming conflicting boot things
[10:20] <usr13> p1oooop: That's strange.
[10:20] <p1oooop> Meeow: you can try fuse...
[10:20] <Meeow> how that ?
[10:20] <odix> i want to reformat my old hd, but i cant seem to boot into linux with both of them connected
[10:21] <p1oooop> Meeow: or an even crazier method using dd...  man dd   for that...
[10:21] <p1oooop> usr13: I've tried it on multiple computers... same problem.
[10:21] <Meeow> oh and how can i do that  ?
[10:21] <odix> can i just boot with my first hd, then plug in the old hd with the existing install on it, and format and mount it ? is sata pnp ?
[10:21] <p1oooop> usr13: tail -f <any file> | col _bx
[10:21] <p1oooop> Meeow: it's in the man page, I believe...
[10:22] <usr13> p1oooop: using sudo?
[10:22] <p1oooop> Meeow: you can also look up the man page on google...
[10:22] <p1oooop> usr13: using the sudo account.
[10:22] <p1oooop> *root
[10:22] <Meeow> brb sorry
[10:22] <p1oooop> usr13: maybe tail and col just don't like me.
[10:22] <p1oooop> XD
[10:23] <usr13> p1oooop: Well, actually user should be able to do it too I think but...
[10:23] <odix> im just going to get gparted
[10:23] <p1oooop> usr13: naw, I kinda need to pipe it to my printer... and only sudo can do that :P
[10:23] <usr13> p1oooop: Yea, just try  tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log
[10:23] <odix> ubuntu can handle multiple ssds right? or one hd one ssd on only two available sata ports ?
[10:23] <p1oooop> usr13: but I need to format it for my printer...
[10:23] <usr13> see if that works
[10:24] <p1oooop> usr13: I'm also doing IRC logs.
[10:24] <p1oooop> usr13: once I used google translate and did a little russian... my printer froze.
[10:24] <Meeow> p1oooop, i folowed this tutorial http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/share-files-between-two-ubuntu-computers-via-ssh and it keeps asking the password. I dont really get why ?
[10:24] <p1oooop> usr13: so, I have to use col with tail.. :P
[10:24] <p1oooop> Meeow: your SSH server?
[10:25] <Meeow> yep "share files"
[10:25] <VxQe> My ubuntu server name can't seem to resolv it's own hostname.
[10:25] <Meeow> wait, you said "dd" is faster to transfer data between 2pc's ?
[10:25] <usr13> if  you can do   tail -f /var/log/httpd/error_log  and see standard output, then troubleshoot the | col_bx part
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> odix: it will handle whatever your hardware can accommodate
[10:25] <VxQe> I put an entry in /etc/hosts but when I dig/nslookup it cant find it at all.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: check the entry
[10:26] <VxQe> ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: what line did you add?
[10:26] <p1oooop> usr13: the tailing part works fine. the problem is when I col it.
[10:26] <usr13> VxQe: can you ping it?
[10:26] <VxQe> just the ip and the hostname.
[10:26] <usr13> p1oooop: that is what I thought.
[10:26] <p1oooop> usr13: :P
[10:27] <VxQe> Hmm
[10:27] <p1oooop> usr13: I've tried it multiple times with col. no luck.
[10:27] <usr13> p1oooop: Well, I dono... sorry.
[10:27] <p1oooop> usr13: alright, thanks for your help :)
[10:27] <VxQe> Yeah I can ping it
[10:27] <Meeow> p1oooop, do you know any other way to share a load of files between 2pc's ?
[10:27] <p1oooop> Meeow: you can try samba...
[10:28] <p1oooop> Meeow: it's not too hard, there's a GUI for it...
[10:28] <VxQe> My actualy problem is that my router doesn't like the static IP so it isn't resolvable over the network.
[10:28] <p1oooop> Meeow: and it works with windows (and mac, I think) machines too..
[10:28] <Meeow> p1oooop, that looks nice .. ill try that. thankies.
[10:28] <p1oooop> Meeow: basically you right click and click on the "share" button.
[10:29] <llutz_> VxQe: how can a router dislike an IP? configure your network correctly and it will work
[10:29] <VxQe> lol
[10:29] <Meeow> p1oooop,  i made everything like in the tutorial but keeps asking me the passw. thats the problem.
[10:29] <VxQe> The machine is in the arp tables but the routers DNS wont resolve it.
[10:29] <usr13> VxQe: Coulld it be you have an IP conflict?
[10:29] <fuzzybunny69y> Hey everyone for some reason flash keeps crashing every single time I watch a movie in chrome. Does anyone know what I could do to fix it? I have tried downloading the version from Adobe's website and nothing seems to work.
[10:29] <VxQe>  No.
[10:29] <VxQe> I can access the box.
[10:29] <VxQe> The dns on the router is just being silly.
[10:30] <usr13> VxQe: pastebinit /etc/hosts
[10:30] <VxQe> It's nothing to do with the hosts file.
[10:30] <odix> real quick, i want to be able to su into root, how do i do that? "i dont want it disabled"
[10:30] <p1oooop> Meeow: is it not working?
[10:30] <p1oooop> 0.o
[10:30] <p1oooop> Meeow: as in your password
[10:30] <usr13> VxQe: Is the IP you are uising inside the DHCP pool?
[10:30] <VxQe> No.
[10:30] <odix> su is givign me authentication failure
[10:30] <Meeow> p1oooop, ouch. sorry its surely because of our new livebox.I gotta reconf this to allow port 22 i guess
[10:31] <Mod-R-Focker> usr13: yep it was the ram .. that sux  now im back to 2 gig
[10:31] <VxQe> And the router doesn't seem to do dhcp reservations.
[10:31] <p1oooop> Meeow: nowonder I like doing it through terminal better... XD
[10:31] <usr13> Mod-R-Focker: 2gig is enough.
[10:31] <VxQe> odix: Is sudo -i not suitable?
[10:31] <llutz_> odix: s needs root password which isn't set in *buntu. use sudo -i
[10:31] <p1oooop> Meeow: less ambiguation, IMHO.
[10:31] <llutz_> su*
[10:31] <Hanzo> selam
[10:31] <usr13> VxQe: That should be configurable option.
[10:31] <VxQe> usr13, I have been through every page on the routers config and I can't find it.
[10:32] <Mandrew> hehe w3m was so cool i didnt understand a thing :D
[10:32] <Mod-R-Focker> i mess around running FTP and apache sever for practice so .. i was tryin for a little more ram
[10:32] <usr13> VxQe: Oh, yea, sorry, I missunderstood.  What router is it?
[10:32] <VxQe> Some linksys.
[10:33] <usr13> VxQe: Look up the model number, see if it is in the DD-wrt database. http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
[10:33] <Hanzo> babay
[10:33] <VxQe> Not installing dd-wrt. ~_~
[10:33] <Hanzo> baby ?
[10:33] <Hanzo> evet
[10:33] <Hanzo> yes
[10:34] <usr13> VxQe: I use IPcop router.  (All you have to do is turn off the DHCP server and use IPCop or smoothwall or... )
[10:34] <Hanzo> ok
[10:34] <usr13> VxQe: Or just turn off the DHCP server and use DHCPD on one of  your linux boxes (one that stays on).
[10:34] <VxQe> I might try configuring bind on the server.
[10:35] <odix> llutz_ i need to get into root, how do i enable su
[10:35] <VxQe> DHCP is not the issue, it's just DNS
[10:35] <VxQe> odix, use sudo -i.
[10:35] <llutz_> odix: su needs root password which isn't set and isn't supported in *buntu. use sudo -i to get root shell
[10:35] <p1oooop> oh, I get it.
[10:35] <trojan> well , I havn't used ubuntu since. Problem is i can't seem to find how to show hidden folder.. lil help please
[10:35] <usr13> VxQe: DNS does not effect what is in your /etc/hosts file.
[10:35] <p1oooop> tail interprets | col -b as more commands...
[10:35] <p1oooop> how do I stop that?
[10:35] <usr13> VxQe: pastebinit /etc/hosts
[10:36] <p1oooop> (as in more files for it to monitor)
[10:36] <odix> uhm, not supported, thats odd, it should disable it but allow you to get into it
[10:36] <VxQe> usr13, I know. If I install bind on the machine then otherboxes will be able to resolve my internal things with static IPs
[10:36] <odix> so if i want another local user to sudo -i into root, i have to give him my password ?
[10:36] <llutz_> odix: sudo -i         how often do we have to repeat?
[10:36] <odix> that doesnt make any sense
[10:36] <usr13> VxQe: is <IP_ADDRESS>               localhost
[10:36] <usr13> first line?
[10:36] <VxQe> Yep.
[10:36] <odix> llutz_ dude i see it.
[10:36] <VxQe> the host file is working fine.
[10:36] <llutz_> odix: you have to add him to the admin group
[10:37] <odix> llutz: hmm ok, ill google that, just not use to ubuntu yet, thanks for your help
[10:37] <trojan> anyone ,, show hidden folders,, ubuntu 11.04
[10:37] <llutz_> odix: sudo adduser <username> admin
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> trojan: CTRL+H
[10:38] <usr13> VxQe: So, were you intending to att this line in the hosts file of all your PCs?
[10:38] <VxQe> ...No.
[10:38] <usr13> VxQe: Btw, why are you opposed to using dd-wrt image on the router?
[10:38] <VxQe> usr13, I think there is a misunderstanding between what you think I want and what I am trying to achieve.
[10:38] <usr13> VxQe: Yes, there must be.
[10:38] <VxQe> I don't want to flash my router/void my warranty/etc.
[10:38] <odix> hmm already had him added, ill append
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: i believe there is a file which will tell your OS to update the router
[10:39] <odix> still worked
[10:39] <VxQe> Apart from one machine not being resolvable via dns, the router works fine.
[10:39] <llutz_> odix: the user has to re-login to activate changes
[10:39] <VxQe> So rather not muck with it.
[10:39] <trojan> thanks
[10:39] <usr13> VxQe: Well then take the router back and get one that does what you want it to do. (If it is the router's warranty you are interested in.)
[10:40] <VxQe> If I can direct DNS queries to the ubuntu server, that makes the most sense.
[10:40] <usr13> VxQe: So what is it, exactly, you are tying to do?
[10:40] <odix> ahh thanks, was wondering why it wasnt working
[10:40] <Mod-R-Focker> VxQe:what are u tryin to do?
[10:41] <VxQe> Let's start again.
[10:41] <lahwran> how would I go about making notification-applet or whatever it's called show notifications that I wish to be shown?
[10:41] <Xofrats> ubuntu (afaik) doesn't run dns servers
[10:41] <usr13> good idea
[10:41] <usr13> Xofrats: Sure it will.
[10:41] <llutz_> no by default
[10:41] <llutz_> not*
[10:42] <VxQe> My router will not resolve my ubuntu server via DNS, presumably because it has a static IP. I have a little appliance in my livingroom that needs to access the server. It cannot do so because it cannot resolve the IP address via DNS.
[10:42] <Xofrats> then use a host file
[10:43] <usr13> VxQe: You don't resolve IP address  You resolve domain names.
[10:43] <VxQe> The appliance only really needs to resolve the ubuntu server. My feeling as that the best option is to install bind on the ubuntu server and point the appliance at it.
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: you can install dnsmasq for a nice dns service
[10:43] <VxQe> You resolve the ip via the hostname. :/
[10:43] <Mod-R-Focker> so its on the LAN side ..
[10:43] <usr13> VxQe: No.  You resolve hostnames to IP addreesses
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: if you set the interface to DHCP (address only) you can then specify the DNS servers and in the order you desire
[10:43] <Xofrats> bind is overkill for that
[10:43] <Mod-R-Focker> i dont see why the host file would not work
[10:44] <VxQe> It's an appliance so I cannot access it's bits.
[10:44] <VxQe> I cannot change it's hostfile, etc.
[10:44] <lahwran> internal server error on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: I do that myself and always install a local dnsmasq service to all systems to speed up web access
[10:44] <usr13> VxQe: If you put the domain name and IP address in your /etc/hosts file, it will work.  Right?
[10:44] <VxQe> Yes except that I cannot modify the hosts file on the appliance.
[10:44] <usr13> (That is, if you want to use a domain name.)
[10:44] <Xofrats> yeah, something like dnsmasq tied to dhcp
[10:44] <odix> i have two servers running on a local network, basically one is a copy of another, whats a good palce to start so when automatically backs up the other to the t ?
[10:44] <usr13> VxQe: You can't just use IP address?
[10:45] <VxQe> No.
[10:45] <VxQe> It's a seagate media thingy, it is pretty lousy.
[10:45] <VxQe> lol
[10:45] <odix> ill be doing all my editing on 1 server, and just want the second server to mirror the first
[10:45] <usr13> VxQe: The appliance does not have option to use IP address rather than host name?
[10:45] <Xofrats> bitch to seagate? ^^)
[10:45] <odix> adding users, everything in essence.,,
[10:46] <Mod-R-Focker> what is the appliance ?
[10:46] <VxQe> usr13, no.
[10:46] <llutz_> VxQe: lousy router, lousy apliance... sou should better watch what you buy ;)
[10:46] <VxQe> Basically it only shows things it can resolve.
[10:46] <usr13> VxQe: If I were you, I'd get a router that has options you need.    Turn off the dhcp server on the router and use a linux box as router, (at that point, the router will become a switch)
[10:48] <VxQe> Sadly no telnet on the router.
[10:48] <Xofrats> run dnsmasq and the dhcp it comes with
[10:48] <usr13> VxQe: Why do you need telnet?
[10:48] <VxQe> I don't want to use another DHCP thing.
[10:49] <Xofrats> you are going to have to
[10:49] <VxQe> If I can run dnsmasq without the dhcp, I'll do that.
[10:49] <VxQe> lol
[10:49] <VxQe> Damn.
[10:49] <DooClaw> Hah I just tried that, I logged into my router and enable ssl on port 992
[10:49] <usr13> VxQe: Then dont.  Trun it off.
[10:49] <DooClaw> And than when I connected it said nothing
[10:49] <DooClaw> And than disconnect me after approx 10 seconds
[10:50] <ghsh> how do i change the default file manager
[10:50] <usr13> VxQe: You can run dnsmasq without DHCP. Just tell the router to issue nameserver address of the box that is running dnsmasq
[10:50] <Xofrats> if he wants to resolve stuff, dnsmasq needs to know what to shove it to the pos meddia thing
[10:50] <usr13> VxQe: I know darn well it has that option.
[10:51] <Xofrats> I mean yeah you can run dnsmasq without, but how is that going to help him resolve internal stuff
[10:51] <bullgard4> What  GNOME  programs use the environmant variable LANGUAGE for what purpose? (In contrast to LANG.)
[10:51] <Hanzo> i will give award who makes 10+ posts a day
[10:51] <Hanzo> to forum
[10:52] <jragon> How do I install tar balls?
[10:52] <Hanzo> yep
[10:52] <Hanzo> i will give award who makes 10+ posts a day
[10:52] <Hanzo> to forum
[10:53] <ghsh> jragon: untar it then install
[10:53] <Xofrats> either tell seagate to grow a brain, most likely it's using gpl stuff to begin with
[10:53] <usr13> jazz2: tar zxvf tarball.tgz  ;  cd tarball/ ; ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[10:53] <ki113d> Hey guys. I can't find the application to install my proprietary hardware drivers. It isn't in System -> Administration :S  Any help please?
[10:54] <llutz_> !checkinstall  don't use "sudo make install"
[10:54] <llutz_> !checkinstall
[10:54] <usr13> jragon: tar zxvf tarball.tgz  ;  cd tarball/ ; ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[10:54] <ashmew2> Hi , im having some issues with my Dell XPS 15 , im able to feel a little bit of vibrations/static on the body of the laptop near the keyboard..What can be the possible reasons for this ? Can anyone help ? Thanks.
[10:55] <usr13> jragon: But you should just use the package manager -  apt
[10:55] <usr13> jragon: What is it you are wanting to install?
[10:55] <jragon> John the Ripper
[10:55] <Xofrats> anyway, my purpose for being here... anyone familiar with doing rootstock-type things on arm? -arm is dead atm
[10:55] <llutz_> !info john
[10:55] <R|a|k> how can i reinstall grub ?
[10:55] <llutz_> jragon: ^^
[10:55] <jragon> Haha
[10:55] <jragon> Thanks
[10:56] <R|a|k> i am on ubuntu box
[10:56] <ashmew2> john :)
[10:56] <usr13> Xofrats: He can use it's own hosts file to resolve it.  It CAN be done.
[10:56] <R|a|k> i wanna do the grub reinstall right now
[10:56] <jragon> Thanks =
[10:56] <jragon> =D
[10:56] <caroline_> Can anyone tell me how to install google earth without CLI
[10:56] <R|a|k> caroline_: symantic
[10:57] <ghsh> got it
[10:57] <Xofrats> yeah, it can... I take a more 10t approach to things
[10:57] <R|a|k> caroline_: ops synaptic
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> R|a|k: you'll need to do it from liveCD
[10:58] <R|a|k> ActionParsnip: how ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> caroline_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[10:58] <aljona> Hi, I installed Veetle and now when i rebooted my machine i can not login to xfce. When i log in from the terminal i get the message "You do not own that encrypted directory". So clearly Veetle has messed something up. Does anybody know a solution to this?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> R|a|k: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[10:59] <Xofrats> thing is, if he's relying on router dhcp, no guarantee it'll dole out the same ip
[10:59] <rcconf> hello
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: set different IP pools and it'll be ok ;)
[10:59] <daev> could someone please assist me with a small problem i'm having? I'm running 11.04 x86_64 but cpu doesn't flag long-mode.
[11:00] <Xofrats> so he'll have to go semi-static or reservation
[11:01] <Xofrats> Yeah, I heard the <IP_ADDRESS> block is ripe for taking
[11:01]  * Xofrats still does not understand why a whole /8 was needed for "localhost"
[11:01] <odix> hmm gparted having issues bring up both my ssd and regular hd
[11:02] <llutz_> Xofrats: ipv4 is ripe to die (since ages)
[11:02] <Xofrats> I guess no rootstock expert here...
[11:02] <VxQe> OK!
[11:02] <VxQe> dnsmasq did the trick.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: is it /8  I thought it was /24
[11:02] <VxQe> I hope it isn't leasing dhcp address though. :)
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: dnsmasq is the BOM
[11:02] <VxQe> ActionParsnip, APPARENTLY.
[11:02] <Xofrats> It is /8 afaik
[11:03] <lahwran> is there a way to make notify-osd not ignore the timeout and allow me to click on it to make it go away?
[11:03] <wsagent> can anybody help me pls with flash player in Ubuntu 10.10 both in firefox and chromium
[11:03] <llutz_> Xofrats: ActionParsnip it is /8
[11:03] <VxQe> Also, what can I use to configure runlevel services in ubuntu?
[11:03] <VxQe> Used to rhel. :/
[11:04] <llutz_> !runlevel | VxQe
[11:04] <buff27> wsagent, !ask
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: yeah it's /8  weird
[11:04] <llutz_> !upstart > VxQe
[11:04] <VxQe> Right, what do I use to disable services, etc?
[11:04] <wsagent> buff27: i was having flash before but now its not working
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> VxQe: check how long name resolutions take to happen after the second ask ;)
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: yeah, weird stuff
[11:05] <wsagent> buff27:it says download latest flash player
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: surely /30 is enough....
[11:05] <VxQe> I know what upstart is. What utility is used to configure it?
[11:05] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: "nobody needs more than 640k!"
[11:06] <buff27> wsagent, give it a go or try uninstall - re-install flash
[11:06] <Xofrats> That was intel's doing
[11:06] <wsagent> how can i uninstall it sorry i am newbeeee
[11:07] <Xofrats> the 808x couldn't even address a full 1mb
[11:07] <usr13> wsagent: Are you trying to get flashplaer plugin to work?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: it got people to the moon ;)
[11:07] <wsagent> usr13: yes
[11:08] <tebinu> hello, i got a little question. i am on a windows pc right now and i have an ubuntu server at home. i have access via ssh but i wuld like to vnc it.. unfortunately, i forgot to open port 5900 on my router. is it possible to open mozilla via ssh and transfer that window on my windows computer? i heard, that is possible somehow :S
[11:08] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: fake
[11:08] <buff27> wsagent, try: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer     , then sudo apt-get inatall flashplugin-installer
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: according to 2 dead trolls in a baggie its fact
[11:08] <Xofrats> ssh tunneling is possible
[11:08] <usr13> wsagent: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/
[11:08] <fulc> Hi, is this the official ubuntu help channel?
[11:09] <buff27> wsagent, to be honest I'm not sure what the problem is
[11:09] <Xofrats> Some clients can set up tunnel forwarding
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: sure, you can turn on X forwarding in your SSH client and launch the browser
[11:09] <tebinu> hmm ActionParsnip could you help me a bit with that, i am not that much into linux
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: for a linux client use: ssh -X username@host
[11:09] <tebinu> aah
[11:09] <llutz_> tebinu: you'll need a xserver on windows for that running
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: then when you launch the browser, it will appear on the client X server
[11:09] <Xofrats> he uses vnc, though
[11:10] <tebinu> how can i get an xserver on my windows pc
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Xofrats: s/he has ssh enabled but forgot to port forward vnc
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[11:10] <usr13> wsagent: Or:  sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[11:10] <tebinu> i have a 100mbit connection at home so it should be ok. its just important, that everything goes over the ssh poort
[11:11] <fulc> Can anyone help me with installing and enabling xen on a UEC since my hardware doesnt support hardware virtualization?
[11:11] <Xofrats> yeah, it is
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: what activities do you want to do on the remote system?
[11:11] <usr13> wsagent: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629749/
[11:11] <wsagent> user13: thanks a lot your first option worked for me uninstall and reinstall
[11:11] <wsagent> usr
[11:11] <tebinu> ActionParsnip: i just need to open mozilla, to access the administration of my router
[11:12] <usr13> wsagent: ok
[11:12] <tebinu> so i can then open port 5900
[11:12] <wsagent> usr13: thanks a lot
[11:12] <tebinu> and do it via x11vnc.. thats easier for me and also makes it better when i want to vnc via my mobile phone
[11:12] <Xofrats> uhh, no, go to that url about vncoverssh
[11:12] <tebinu> i am there but as far as i can see, it always says something about port 5900 :S
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: sure but when you get vnc going, what will you be doing on the remote system?
[11:13] <caroline_> Thnks!!
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: you can simply launch mozilla in the ssh console
[11:13] <wsagent> buff27: thanks a lot for your help too ... it worked after reinstalling flash plugin
[11:13] <tebinu> hmm
[11:14] <usr13> wsagent: yea, it's his advise you used.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: if you use a windows OS for client you can install xming for the app to stick to
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: you do know that many apps have web UIs...
[11:14] <tebinu> ah okay, will do that and come back in a minute
[11:14] <tebinu> yea
[11:14] <wsagent> usr13: but i used your help in coding thanks again
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: what do you plan to do over the link?
[11:16] <tebinu> change ports on my router then via the web administration
[11:16] <tebinu> but port 80 is already forwarded by my router
[11:16] <tebinu> so i cannot directly access it from here
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tebinu: hmm, no telnet access?
[11:17] <pierre_m47> test
[11:17] <fulc> Can anyone help me with enabling xen on a UEC since my hardware doesnt support hardware virtualization?
[11:17] <tebinu> i dont know anything about telnet and i dont want to break my router :S
[11:17] <rcconf> lol tebinu it's easy
[11:18] <buff27> tebinu, use ssh as a proxy in your broswer http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[11:18] <rcconf> tebinu: telnet <router-ip> then enter username and pass
[11:18] <Xofrats> look at docs for ssh tunneling
[11:18] <rcconf> buff27: why does he want to encrypt access to the router
[11:18] <rcconf> omg.
[11:18] <ashmew2> Hoi , I have a desktop lying around running Windows XP , i want to install X/K/Ubuntu on it but the problem is that it has a broken CD Rom and an old BIOS in whichi cant figure out how to boot using a pen drive. I also have a laptop currently running Ubuntu 11.04. So is there any way i could install Ubuntu on my Desktop machine ?Like boot ISO from the hard disk or using the laptop to force boot the desktop ? Thanks.
[11:18] <Xofrats> you are making it too complicated
[11:19] <rcconf> tebinu: just do it via http
[11:19] <rcconf> why use telnet
[11:19] <tebinu> rcconf: not possible.. port 80 is forwarded to my apache at home
[11:19] <Xofrats> port forward 80 to the router 80, ssh can do stuff like that
[11:19] <rcconf> what about https?
[11:19] <tebinu> otherwise i would just access the webinterface via http
[11:19] <buff27> rcconf, was thinking ssh tunnel then do it via http
[11:19] <tebinu> hmm
[11:20] <tebinu> wait i check
[11:20] <rcconf> my router supports 443
[11:20] <Xofrats> ssh clients can forward a local port to the local net on remote
[11:20] <tebinu> doesnt seem to work.. The connection has timed out
[11:20] <buff27> rcconf, tebinu I've done it with ssh tunnel to do it
[11:20] <rcconf> buff27: I know it's possible..
[11:20] <usr13> wsagent: Note; They don't always say when the plugin gets updated.  You just have to over-write it once in a while.
[11:21] <rcconf> tebinu: nmap <router-ip> -p https
[11:21] <wsagent> usr13: yeah i know it now
[11:22] <Xofrats> and you should be using ssh tunneling anyway
[11:22] <tebinu> Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-06-20 12:21 CEST
[11:22] <tebinu> Nmap scan report for <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:22] <tebinu> Host is up (0.0031s latency).
[11:22] <tebinu> PORT    STATE  SERVICE
[11:22] <FloodBot1> tebinu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <tebinu> 443/tcp closed https
[11:22] <rcconf> tebinu: yeah it's closed..
[11:22] <Xofrats> instead of opening unencrypted ports
[11:23] <rcconf> tebinu: so you want to access the router remotely right
[11:23] <debian2_> server irc-hispano.org
[11:23] <tebinu> yea
[11:24] <rcconf> tebinu: it's not the same than accessing in LAN
[11:24] <buff27> tebinu, and you have access to a ssh server behind the router?
[11:24] <aljona> i dont know if someone answered my question a few minutes ago, i lost my connection. If anyone did please feel free to repeat
[11:24] <tebinu> yea
[11:25] <tebinu> and it looks like my router does not accept telnet
[11:25] <tebinu> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[11:25] <Xofrats> he wants to vnc to access his router page so he can port forward the vnc
[11:25] <tebinu> exactly
[11:25] <Xofrats> making it waaay complicated
[11:26] <buff27> tebinu, yeah then ssh in to your server with -D 9999 (ssh -D 9999 username@ip-address-of-ssh-server)
[11:26] <rcconf> tebinu: dude if you are accessing it remotely you cant access telnet directly
[11:26] <Xofrats> he's using win*
[11:26] <buff27> tebinu, read the link
[11:26] <rcconf> you gotta have lan access
[11:26] <tebinu> :S
[11:27] <rcconf> or enable remote control in router
[11:27] <Xofrats> he does
[11:27] <Xofrats> via ssh
[11:27] <tebinu> well i have a server in the lan with router
[11:27] <aljona> the thing is that i obviosly do not have permission to access my home folder anymore after installing Veetle. In the .ecryptfs the files looks like the following: "private.mnt rw" "private.sig rw" "wrapped-passphrase rw" Is rw enough for those files?
[11:27] <buff27> Xofrats,  glad you  can keep up
[11:27] <Xofrats> and I told him 10 times to use ssh tunneling
[11:27] <tebinu> i will try Xofrats
[11:28] <aljona> Whats more is that "wrapped-passphrase" is owned by "my_user_name root"
[11:28] <rcconf> Xofrats: with destination being the router IP and port?
[11:28] <Xofrats> he could do that yes
[11:29] <rcconf> i see
[11:29] <Xofrats> but the whole purpose of him doing that is to open 5900 to the world
[11:29] <Xofrats> which is a bad idea(tm)
[11:30] <rcconf> why is that? he just need to use a strong password, encrypt vnc traffic and change default port
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> vnc generally sucks
[11:30] <tebinu> Xofrats: i only need it for like one day but i am not at home for a month now :S
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: vnc has zero encryption
[11:30] <tebinu> i could install teamviewer on it thereafter
[11:30] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: exactly you can encrypt using a ssh tunnel or vpn
[11:31] <tebinu> my idea was to install teamviewer but i dont have any idea how to install it via terminal
[11:31] <rcconf> there's lots of tutorials explaining that
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: true but it does sound like he is going to connect to wan ip using vnc client
[11:31] <Xofrats> ... he's trying to access the router so he can port forward 5900 ...
[11:31] <Xofrats> hence the bad idea(tm)
[11:32] <rcconf> Xofrats: it's not bad idea if no one can't crack it
[11:32] <rcconf> lol
[11:32] <Xofrats> sure, 12345
[11:33] <Xofrats> 12345678, very secure 8 digit
[11:33] <Xofrats> he's on 100mbit, ain't going to take long to brute-force
[11:33] <rcconf> &$X0f4T5[11:33] <rcconf> no one can crack it easily
[11:33] <rcconf> :)
[11:34] <tebinu> well i would be happy if i would be that far to think about securing that connection :D
[11:34] <thereaper243> random question#27321617: whats the best way to go about learning the deeper linux structure (hardware interface, adv. bash commands, etc)? Book? Learning program?
[11:34] <Xofrats> use the source, linus
[11:34] <Xofrats> *duck*
[11:34] <rcconf> tebinu: you should access the VPN with encryption for that you use a SSH tunnel so no one can sniff your VNC password.
[11:35] <rcconf> VNC*
[11:35] <rcconf> sry
[11:35] <Xofrats> or wait, was that "may the source be with you"
[11:35] <rcconf> lol
[11:35] <tebinu> :D
[11:35] <thereaper243> Xofrats, was that a response to me?
[11:35] <tebinu> ok well lets start from the beginning. Xofrats: you told me to install xming. i did that, how should i proceed?
[11:35] <Xofrats> yes
[11:35] <odix> wow i am having the time of my life simply deleting a whole hard drive
[11:36] <Xofrats> no, I said no such thing
[11:36] <odix> i have two hdds, both have filesystems on it, i cant connect both because i cant boot then
[11:36] <tebinu> oh
[11:36] <tebinu> then it was someone else
[11:36] <odix> i just want to remove all the data on one and mount it as a new partition...
[11:37] <Xofrats> x as a protocol isnt't all that great
[11:37] <thereaper243> Xofrats: What do mean by go to the source? I doubt Linus has time for dinner this evening. Does he write a good amount of material or something?
[11:37] <rcconf> tebinu: 1- install, configure VNC and create a strong password (numbers, special chars, lower and uppercase) 2- create a ssh server with private key... connect to VNC using SSH server.
[11:37] <Xofrats> which is why you have vnc/nx/etc
[11:37] <odix> why cant i do this ?
[11:37] <odix> why is this so hard to do ? just format one whole hard drive, they both have linux on them, but i cant both put htem in it doesnt work.
[11:37] <Xofrats> remove or move?
[11:37] <odix> it wont boot
[11:38] <Xofrats> remove is easy, dd if=/dev/zero of=<hd> bs=512 count=1
[11:38] <rcconf> odix: use gparted?
[11:38] <chouchou> Hello good morning, pls how can I add additional http port to the current one which is 80 by default ?
[11:38] <Xofrats> poof, no more data
[11:38] <odix> or anything, i really just need to erase the mbr of it
[11:39] <odix> ive tried evertying, i just cant get gparted to pick it up for some reason?
[11:39] <Xofrats> that erases the mbr
[11:39] <odix> the mbr is stored on the hd no ?
[11:39] <Xofrats> boot from rescue cd
[11:39] <odix> I have two hds
[11:39] <rcconf> odix: you can use disk utility
[11:39] <Xofrats> first 512bytes
[11:39] <rcconf> you can use dban..... you can use gparted
[11:39] <Guest31419> Umm... I just found a very suspicious .conf file. Why would there be a Trolltech.conf?
[11:39] <odix> both have linux on them, just want to erase one
[11:39] <Xofrats> trolltech is for qt
[11:39] <rcconf> Guest31419: paste the content
[11:39] <odix> gparted wont pick it up, i tried plugging it in after i booted, doesnt work, or it doesnt boot.
[11:39] <thereaper243> Xofrats: What do mean by go to the source? I doubt Linus has time for dinner this evening. Does he write a good amount of Linux educational material or something?
[11:40] <Xofrats> don't plug after boot
[11:40] <Guest31419> [Qt]
[11:40] <Guest31419> style=Gtk+
[11:40] <Guest31419> so i guess it's sound
[11:40] <Xofrats> connect the one you want to wipe, boot from rescue, parse dmesg, dd away
[11:40] <Guest31419> just seems strange to have it named that and capitalized nonetheless
[11:40] <DandyKoffin> irc.taphouse.org
[11:41] <Xofrats> you said you wanted to learn about the inner working of linux
[11:41] <Xofrats> no better way than to read the source, unless you are versed in binary and can read elf
[11:43] <tebinu> i got it to work !!!
[11:43] <tebinu> with ssh tunneling
[11:43] <tebinu> ;)
[11:43] <tebinu> wasnt as hard as i thought
[11:43] <tebinu> thanks all
[11:43] <rcconf> tebinu: yeah make sure you use strong passwords..
[11:43] <Xofrats> only took 11 tries
[11:43] <rcconf> because ppl here have your IP
[11:43] <rcconf> :)
[11:44] <thereaper243> Xofrats: LOL, fair enough. I really dont understand source. I guess thats my real question. How do I learn to read source code? Most source I see looks like the afformentioned elf...
[11:44] <rcconf> username: tebinu password: unibet :P
[11:44] <Xofrats> well, one thing that you can do is read the mailing list
[11:45] <Xofrats> but sooner or later you'lll
[11:45] <odix> wow i cant believe its this difficult or ubuntu server wont boot with two hd's connected each containing a root filesystem, it should read bios and see which one i want to boot and not mount the other
[11:45] <Xofrats> have to look at the source
[11:45] <odix> brings me to busybox
[11:46] <odix> xofrats do you mean rescue cd or boot into rescue mode ?
[11:46] <Xofrats> rescue cd
[11:46] <thereaper243> How do I access the mailing list Xofrats?
[11:46] <tebinu> rcconf: thanks, already have a strong one :D
[11:46] <Xofrats> I assume you have one?
[11:46] <odix> ok
[11:46] <tebinu> the name of the left and right boob of my gf. i hope that doesnt let me look retarded
[11:46] <Xofrats> if the whole purpose is to nuke the drive
[11:46] <tebinu> well. i am in the internet
[11:47] <odix> been trying to get this going for hours cant belive it haha
[11:47] <Xofrats> just take the easiest option
[11:47] <odix> is there a possible way to erase the /root of the second hd in busybox?
[11:48] <Xofrats> Umm, if you just dd the first 512byte
[11:48] <Xofrats> next boot all partition will be gone
[11:48] <thereaper243> Xofrats: How do I access the mailing list? I also want to say thank you. You're the only person on here who has ever made me feel even remotely welcome.
[11:48] <Xofrats> *poof*
[11:48] <odix> how do i do that ?
[11:48] <Xofrats> Dunno, ask Dr. google?
[11:49] <odix> please help me, right now i have my ssd, the hd i want in sata slot 1, i have the regular hd, in sata slot 2, im in busybox
[11:49] <odix> ive been trying seriously
[11:49] <odix> for some reason gparted doesnt even pick it up, only /dev/sda,
[11:49] <odix> not both...
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> odix: do you see them in BIOS?
[11:49] <odix> its really confusing me, im not stupid, for some reason a solution keeps evading me
[11:49] <odix> action: yes
[11:49] <Xofrats> Can't you boot with the nukee and a rescue cd?
[11:50] <Xofrats> make it easy
[11:50] <Xofrats> so you don't end up nuking the wrong one
[11:50] <odix> xofrats im dowwlnoading rescue now
[11:50] <Guest31419> http://pastebin.com/T6EmgBTG
[11:50] <odix> i just dont get why gpartd wont c it
[11:50] <Guest31419> what am i doing wrooong?
[11:50] <odix> or there isny an easier way...
[11:50] <thereaper243> Odix, I believe the "Ask Dr. Google" was for me. Your problem is serious. Mine isn't. Good luck guys! I think Xofrats essentially just told me to RTFM. LOL.
[11:50] <odix> getting rescue remix now
[11:51] <Xofrats> any ol bootable linux cd will do
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest31419: you are trying to install a nonexistant package
[11:51] <Guest31419> =P
[11:51] <Guest31419> ActionParsnip, it was a silly joke anyway.
[11:51] <odix> xofrats, i know. but ubuntu is not picking it up and i dont know why
[11:52] <Xofrats> umm, then how did you boot from it before?
[11:52] <MacFan112> hello xD
[11:52] <odix> and i cant get gparted to run off usb, i have usb-fdd, usb-cd, and another usb in my boot options
[11:52] <Xofrats> with ubunntu?
[11:52] <odix> xofrats: one by one
[11:52] <odix> im combinging two server hds into one
[11:52] <thereaper243> Odix, have you tried running the gparted live cd? I usually have better luck that way.
[11:52] <odix> its seriously making me go crazy
[11:52] <Xofrats> as I said, disconnect the one you want to save
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest31419: i know ;)
[11:53] <odix> thereaper: yes, it only picks up one had, not the other\
[11:53] <MacFan112> so, liek, m y frend keepz on goin on abut how good his linuxx system is. wtf is it?
[11:53] <Xofrats> boot into a console with any mean
[11:53] <thereaper243> hm
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> MacFan112: what is what?
[11:53] <Xofrats> then dd
[11:53] <odix> i tried unetbootin to for a usb gparted, cant seem to get it to boot, when im in the grub menu, on boot, how can i get it to boot usb ?
[11:53] <odix> pen drive
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> odix: did you MD5 test the ISO you transferred?
[11:53] <MacFan112> linuxx. he cant stop talking abut how its better than mac.  This is also the wrong channel
[11:54] <Harris> hello guys sorry I have a problem with Wine I can not do from a game is called Army Men RTS if I click the icon. exe seems to start the game, the screen goes black for a few seconds but then comes back and goes to the desk and a window with wrote: "Pandemonic Studios: Error" What can I do? can anyone help me?
[11:54] <thereaper243> Not all MOBOs will let you USB boot though.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> MacFan112: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <odix> well if i have usb fdd
[11:54] <odix> and usb cdrom
[11:54] <MacFan112> okay thnxx
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> odix: did you test the ISO?
[11:55]  * Guest31419 is laughing at the fact that the troll actually just left and moved on...
[11:55] <ThinkT510> Harris: sounds like a wine issue, check the wine appdb website or ask on #winehq
[11:55] <Xofrats> trolls are people too
[11:55] <thereaper243> LOL Xofrats, not here they arent
[11:56] <kakashi_> how do I k¡ll 'rm'
[11:56] <kakashi_> its killing my machine
[11:56] <o__oll> true
[11:56] <kakashi_> kill -9 PID or killall -9 rm is not working
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kakashi_: kill it's PID
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[11:56] <Xofrats> I'm a humanitarian... I like tasty people
[11:56] <thereaper243> ROFL!!!
[11:56] <thereaper243> Now I am hungry. DANGIT!
[11:57] <kakashi_> ActionParsnip: doesnt help!
[11:57] <Xofrats> pidof rm?
[11:57] <arand> kakashi_: How did you invoke rm? Need sudo to kil it?
[11:57] <Xofrats> su?
[11:57] <thereaper243> ActionParsnip: Do you usually wind up assisting everyone? You seem fairly helpful.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> kakashi_: tried sudo kill -9 PID
[11:58] <odix> ive never had such a problem deleteing a hd lol
[11:58] <kakashi_> used sudo
[11:58] <kakashi_> doesn't help!
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> thereaper243: just hang out when work is quiet :)
[11:58] <odix> and man gparted livecd takes forever
[11:58] <Xofrats> anyway, I think I found my vic^H^H help, see yall
[11:58] <o__oll> sudo sudo?
[11:58] <odix> its sstupid...we dont need an intensive gui man were just partitioning
[11:59] <thereaper243> How do you whisper agian? /whisper?
[11:59] <Lanlost> Anyone here know of a linux utility that will let me convert from .ccd/.img to .bin/.cue?
[11:59] <o__oll> apparently you can add as many sudos as you want as long as you actually include a command at the end.
[11:59] <o__oll> silly to know
[11:59] <kakashi_> top | grep rm gives me this 31068 dumbuser  20   0  5264  724  604 D    2  0.0   0:12.10 rm
[12:00] <thereaper243> How do you whisper again? /whisper?
[12:00] <nephx> whisper?
[12:00]  * Lanlost whispers a whisper.
[12:00] <kakashi_> just check the amount of time it has been running
[12:00] <o__oll> yup.. "sudo sudo sudo sudo sudo apt-get install cowsay" actually works just fine.
[12:00] <jw013> thereaper243: if you mean pm, use /msg
[12:01] <o__oll> I feel sillier for having tried that, though
[12:01] <o__oll> =P
[12:01] <thereaper243> Ah yes. /msg. Fail.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> thereaper243: try:   /msg user text
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: you can mount .img and create bin cue with another tool
[12:02] <Lanlost> is .img just a standard .iso?
[12:02] <kakashi_> is there any other way forcing the kill to really kill the process
[12:02] <o__oll> Lanlost, afaik there was a difference
[12:03] <rcconf> kakashi_: what is the PID
[12:03] <thereaper243> LanLost: I think it depends on the compression level. For some files the answer is yes. For some, mac formatting is different.
[12:03] <Lanlost> heres the reason for this. I have a game that I created a .ccd/.img years ago when the disc was becoming unreadable.  I really wanted to see if it were possible to 'emulate' it in this.
[12:03] <o__oll> Lanlost http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3115582 this might help you
[12:03] <o__oll> There's utilities to convert from it
[12:04] <Lanlost> I can mount ISOs in dosbox.. but in order to keep audio tracks, it's gotta be .bin/.cue. Otherwise, I would just convert it to .iso or copy the files over
[12:04] <Lanlost> thank you
[12:05] <o__oll> Lanlost apparently there's also a nero for linux that supports .img that has a demo
[12:05] <o__oll> Good Luck!
[12:05] <Lanlost> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iV3tnS13s
[12:06] <o__oll> I can always support nostalgia gaming *g
[12:06] <Lanlost> in case you are curious. An incredible game that is unlike any other I played as a kid. I'm dying to hear this music again. The CD audio version.
[12:07] <o__oll> Oooh I remember that one
[12:07] <Lanlost> that's the non-cd version of course. Or.. I think if you don't have the cd in it defaults to that version or something. Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes.
[12:08] <Lanlost> yeah 4:40 is where you first leave. You can hear why I want the cd-audio =/ sounds horrible
[12:10] <o__oll> Best of luck. I hope you get it figured out. If you need some more help googling or fiddling around trying to get it to work, feel free to poke me anytime.
[12:10] <edgardo> yes i do
[12:10] <Lanlost> You know. I just mounted it via gCDEmu
[12:11] <Lanlost> It shows up as two devices. One for the disk and then one for "audio cd". I wonder if Icould just CREATE a .bin/.cue from this somehow
[12:12] <o__oll> Sounds like it's worth a shot at least
[12:12] <o__oll> at the very least you should be able to extract the audio from it somehow now
[12:17] <pRoV7x>  hello
[12:17] <pRoV7x>  how's everybody today
[12:18] <thereaper243> Fantastic as Dr. Who would say.
[12:19] <pRoV7x>  < thereaper243 > lol
[12:19] <pRoV7x>  < thereaper243 > what os do u use
[12:21] <o__oll> Yo~
[12:21] <Davidius> Hi folks, does anyone here know alot about startup disk creator or Unetbootin?
[12:21] <Davidius> I am having trouble trying to create any liveUSB using either of them on two seperate USB drives
[12:22] <o__oll> any particular distro?
[12:23] <o__oll> the best luck I've had with live-media was using puppy, though that's not everyone's cup of tea.
[12:24] <Davidius> I've tried it on both ubuntu and pinguyOS (ubuntu based) and also on windows no joy
[12:25] <o__oll> sorry to hear
[12:25] <megabraker> hello , shockwave in  ubuntu is that possible??
[12:25] <o__oll> do you have any more details about what went wrong?
[12:25] <o__oll> megabraker, via crossover or wine, yes otherwise afaik no
[12:26] <Nahkasorsa> Anyone have any ideas why I can see my desktop trough windows in 11.04
[12:26] <Davidius> I've tried to create about a dozen LiveUSB using both startup disk creator and unetbootin. At first I thought it was the USB drive so I used another with the same results. I made sure both were formatted using Fat32 but no joy
[12:26] <Nahkasorsa> I guess it's some driver problem or something.
[12:26] <megabraker> ok so i need to porivde a port myself
[12:26] <o__oll> megabraker, i haven't looked into it in a year though so things might have changed.
[12:26] <Davidius> the only error I get is from Startup Disk Creator and it reads an uncaught exception was raised Errno5 input/output error
[12:27] <megabraker> o_oll so i need to porvide a port myself
[12:27] <Davidius> Cryptic and fucking useless
[12:27] <o__oll> megabraker, likely
[12:27] <sanguisdex> can any one recommend a v host manger for a localhost environment, so I dont have to do it all manually?
[12:28] <o__oll> Davidius, Certainly. Hmm. How is your USB setup? (USB hub, or builtin, USB version)
[12:28] <Davidius> USB is SDCard plugged into an adapter and then directly into the mobo at the back
[12:29] <o__oll> Davidius, That might be the problem. I know my motherboard had issues with booting off SD
[12:30] <o__oll> Davidius, my desktop can do it, but it requires a special bios setting. Have you tried with a regular old USB stick?
[12:30] <Davidius> Ive used this methods dozens of times before without any issue
[12:30] <Davidius> so why start now?
[12:30] <Mandrew> o__oll, but thats booting this is just installing it to the usb
[12:30] <Davidius> Yes tried a small 512 USB I had and no joy
[12:30] <o__oll> I suppose, that's true
[12:30] <Davidius> there is no problem booting from them I can get the  standard UNETbootin screen but when I try to boot the image it fails over
[12:31] <o__oll> Argh, I ran into that issue before, but I can't for the life of me remember if/how I resolved it. Sorry I can't be of more help :/
[12:32] <bullgard4> [Natty GNOME 2] Why shows Nautilus the directory /root with a special symbol "file card with right half in red and left half white with a skew cross"? What does this icon mean?
[12:32] <Davidius> FUCK nuggets
[12:32] <o__oll> Let me go through my old notes, if I remember or find something useful i'll let you know.
[12:32] <Davidius> so it is an issue
[12:32] <Mandrew> Davidius, have you tried a older version of the OSes? it might be some problem with the new insatller that they have in 10.10-11.04
[12:32] <Davidius> nice to know such a frustrating and blocking issue is so well documented with the project
[12:32] <Davidius> I swear developers should get a slap when they do stupid things
[12:33] <Davidius> I only have 11.04 on my computers, Im trying to downgrade onf of them to 10.10 hence trying to create the LiveUSB
[12:33] <Mandrew> ok
[12:34] <d_atharva> hi..I changed the language of my system 2 days before..now I want to remove it and again want english.I removed the language from language support but and restarted the pc.but its still there in some parts..pl.. help
[12:34] <rcconf> ei I have a questioN:
[12:34] <rcconf> What files are these at /var/lib/dhcp3/ ?
[12:34] <rcconf> dhcp leases?
[12:34] <rcconf> wth
[12:35] <bullgard4> d_atharva: What is your GUI? What is your Ubuntu relaease number?
[12:35] <d_atharva> 10.01
[12:35] <rcconf> lol
[12:35] <rcconf> doesnt exist
[12:35] <d_atharva> sry...10.10
[12:36] <rcconf> may I delete files inside /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient ?
[12:36] <DamnSoGooD> how can i compress a file?
[12:36] <rcconf> * /var/lib/dhcp3/
[12:36] <rcconf> DamnSoGooD: install rar
[12:37] <d_atharva> bullgard4 : 10.10 mavrik
[12:37] <jrib> DamnSoGooD: use bzip2 or gzip
[12:37] <rcconf> jrib: most common extracters dont support it
[12:37] <Davidius> Does UNetBootin have an IRC channel?
[12:37] <jrib> rcconf: sure they do :/
[12:37] <rcconf> ..or not
[12:38] <rcconf> ;o
[12:38] <rcconf> but yeah I use .rar
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> DamnSoGooD: right click it and you can compress there
[12:38] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: I have a lot of files inside /var/lib/dhcp3/ old stuff
[12:38] <DamnSoGooD> there's no context menu for compress
[12:38] <o__oll> .7z is amazing.
[12:39] <DamnSoGooD> wait i try p7zip
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> DamnSoGooD: they are all pretty decent
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: not sure there dude, sorry
[12:39] <rcconf> may I delete these  dhclient.* files?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: not sure, others may be able to advise. Is there nothing online detailing them?
[12:40] <DamnSoGooD> i got it p7zip-full :D
[12:40] <rcconf> it seems it creates .leases and .lease files when I use dhcp
[12:41] <rcconf> most of those entries are old eh
[12:41] <rcconf> it's like a log
[12:42] <JaggMo> Hi...  Am new to Ubuntu....
[12:42] <smftre> i have installed phpMyAdmin via my ubuntu cli, but cant access the gui afterwards using the ip address/phpmyadmin
[12:43] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: hm it seems that it's created by wicd
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: i use wicd on my lappy. I'll look into that. Thanks for the detail :D
[12:44] <smftre> anyone?
[12:44] <JediMaster> ok, this is an issue I've asked about before months ago but I've still got it... I've got an intel atom/nvidia based machine running Ubuntu 11.04, (same issue on 10.04 and 10.10) where I have a gigabit ethernet port (Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1)) connected via Cat6 (also tried Cat5e) to a router with gigabit ports. I can only get about 20kbytes/sec to anything
[12:44] <JediMaster> on the network or to the internet, what's going on?
[12:45] <Davidius> smf-tre as in using the IP address of the myPHPAdmin server via the browser?
[12:45] <rcconf> smftre: users reply if they can help just a wait a little
[12:45] <smftre> Davidius, yes
[12:45] <Davidius> smftre, are you sure you have the IP right - can you ping it?
[12:45] <smftre> yes, 100% certain, if I go there without /phpmyadmin then it goes to the "it works! default page"
[12:46] <Davidius> smftre, can you bring up any page on the Ubutnu server as in the base page of the server
[12:46] <rcconf> man dhclient :P
[12:46] <Davidius> smftre - then its obviously something up with myPHPAdmin and not ubuntu or the server. Sorry I cant be of more help but Im not familiar with myPHPAdmin at all
[12:46] <smftre> Davidius, ok thanks anyways :)
[12:47] <bullgard4> d_atharva: What is your GUI?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> smftre: can you access it from localhost
[12:47] <wols_> smftre: and if you go to /phpmyadmin, what happens then?
[12:48] <smftre> wols_, 404
[12:48] <Davidius> smftre - is /phpmyadmin the correct addy? Not being smart just double checking
[12:48] <wols_> smftre: ls -l /var/www/phpmyadmin*
[12:48] <smftre> Davidius, it's the default for phpmyadmin apparently
[12:49] <smftre> I see it's at /etc/phpmyadmin/
[12:49] <Davidius> @smftre - sounds like Wols_  knows alot more than me
[12:49] <wols_> smftre: no. that is config, not a webpage there
[12:49] <lolmatic> hi
[12:49] <pRoV7x>  hi   lolmatic
[12:49] <smftre> ok
[12:49] <lolmatic> somehow my cron isnt executed properly
[12:49] <lolmatic> 32 * * * * /etc/ftp-index.sh
[12:50] <lolmatic> i want it to be run hourly
[12:50] <Davidius> so whats the right addy wols_?
[12:50] <rcconf> ActionParsnip: it's history of valid dhcp requests thats why I got the same IP even if I wanted another IP :P
[12:51] <rcconf> I thought it was router fault
[12:51] <jrib> lolmatic: pastebin the contents of your script
[12:51] <spass> lolmatic: try /binbash /etc/ftp-index.sh
[12:51] <lolmatic> jrib: when i call the script it runs without problems. just the cron isnt being executed
[12:51] <smftre> Davidius, I may be onto a solution here, will update you all in a minute
[12:52] <spass> lolmatic: and you missed user in that line
[12:52] <jrib> lolmatic: for me to help you, you need to pastebin the contents of your script
[12:53] <spass> lolmatic: you can always copy script to /etc/cron.hourly
[12:53] <smftre> Davidius, sorted, i needed to modify the apache2.conf to include it manually..
[12:53] <lolmatic> spass: user?
[12:53] <spass> lolmatic: like: 17 *    * * *   root    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[12:54] <spass> lolmatic: in /etc/crontab syntax needs declaring user
[12:54] <jrib> lolmatic: you would only need to specify a user if you aren't using a user's crontab (you're instead using the /etc/crontab).  But you should use a user's crontab (by using crontab -e)
[12:55] <lolmatic> how can i force the cron.hourly to run now?
[12:55] <lolmatic> to test it?
[12:55]  * jrib sighs
[12:55] <thezman60> hi everyone
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> hi thezman60
[12:56] <thezman60> hi ActionParsnip
[12:56] <spass> lolmatic: change time in /etc/crontab that handles running cron.daily scripts
[12:56] <llutz> lolmatic: sudo run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
[12:56] <o__oll> change timekeeping divider symbol from : to /
[12:56] <thezman60> Im a real newbie to xchat
[12:56] <gconf> hi. How can I copy all the deb files in a folder so that I can install it later when I need it ?
[12:56] <o__oll> instantly looks more futuristic
[12:56] <spass> or like llutz said.
[12:56] <o__oll> =P
[12:57] <spass> gconf: cp *.deb <destination> ?!?
[12:58] <odix> still messing with this hard drive issue, heres what its saying. When i plug in the hard drive by itself, it works, when i plug it in with the other blank drive it doesnt, they both sit on channel 0, ones a master and ones a slave (apparently), SATA2 drives
[12:59] <odix> on boot i get dropped to a shell it says alert! /dev/mapper/blah-root does not exist
[12:59] <odix> why would it do that with both drives by itself but not with one in it ?
[13:00] <Guest76773> KK
[13:03] <LekeFly> How can i check a gnome terminal via SSH?
[13:04] <odix> can smoebody help me ?
[13:04] <o__oll> odix does it still do that after reformatting one of them?
[13:04] <odix> yes
[13:04] <odix> and if i plug in the drive alone, it works just fine
[13:04] <o__oll> did it work before with both?
[13:04] <odix> nope
[13:05] <odix> one drive is completely blank unallocatd, even tried formatting it, still nothing
[13:05] <o__oll> it might be a hardware incompatibility, though it's not the most likely it
[13:05] <geekyogi> anyone knows how to disable gpg check in synaptic?
[13:05] <o__oll> new partition table too
[13:05] <geekyogi> apt
[13:05] <o__oll> so the mbr got wiped
[13:05] <odix> ALERT! /dev/mapper/udemia-root does nto exist. Dropping to a shell
[13:05] <odix> well no if i just boot with the one hard drive, it works.
[13:05] <geekyogi> how to disable gpg check in apt? anyone?
[13:05] <JaggMo> I installed RHEL 5.4, then installed Ubuntu 10.04. Now am not able to see RHEL in the startup menu...
[13:05] <odix> linux comes up, the login screen, but after i hti enter, i get dropped to initramfs
[13:06] <JaggMo> Any one help me pls....
[13:06] <o__oll> odix, oh, i mean on the drive that you formatted, did you kill the partition table
[13:06] <Pici> LekeFly: I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate?
[13:06] <wols_> JaggMo: you will need to add it back manually
[13:06] <odix> o___oll gparted gave me no option to kill the  tables, its set as ms-dos
[13:07] <odix> the table*
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:07] <JaggMo> How to add the RHEL boot loader in Ubuntu?....
[13:07] <LekeFly> Pici: i have a machine running with a terminal window open.. and id like to "view" that window in ssh.. :p
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: os-prober may just detect it
[13:07] <wols_> JaggMo: where is the RHEL bootloader installed to?
[13:07] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, do you know how to diable gpg check in ubuntu?
[13:07] <Lasers> LekeFly: Learn how to use screen.
[13:07] <fulc> Can anyone help me with enabling xen on a UEC?
[13:07] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, do you know how to disable gpg check in ubuntu?
[13:07] <Pici> LekeFly: afaik, thats not possible.  Thats why tools such as screen exist.
[13:07] <odix> im going to try a clean install, i guess.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: gpg check for what?
[13:08] <o__oll> odix, okay I'm doing a bit of research into your error
[13:08] <JaggMo> how to find out that?
[13:08] <ikonia> JaggMo you don't want to do that, as it will cause problems with kernel updates in ubuntu
[13:08] <o__oll> odix, to see of there's anything else we can do before you lose data
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:08] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, for packages in apt, synaptic
[13:08] <odix> o__oll
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update    and I can advise
[13:08] <JaggMo> wols_: how to find out?...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: did my command not work?
[13:09] <o__oll> odis, can you boot into the one of them with supergrubdisk?
[13:09] <o__oll> with both of them plugged in
[13:09] <o__oll> if yes then it's probably just a config issue
[13:10] <JaggMo> ActionParsnip: Am working on that now...
[13:10] <geekyogi> The thing is that.. I'm trying to use Backtrack repos on ubuntu.. and I don't have the gpg keys for the repository
[13:10] <o__oll> *odix
[13:10] <K1ng> !up k1ng.php-dev.net
[13:10] <smftre> what's that line i have to add to get other file types to run as php for example? for the life of me i cant remember :P
[13:10] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip The thing is that.. I'm trying to use Backtrack repos on ubuntu.. and I don't have the gpg keys for the repository
[13:10] <Pici> K1ng: What are you trying to do?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: if you can give the text I can advise.
[13:10] <K1ng> i just want to know if its works :D
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: can you also give the output of: sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/lsb-release       thanks
[13:11] <smftre> ahh, i recall: AddType application/x-httpd-php .htm
[13:11] <odix> sorry agbck
[13:11] <odix> whats that ?
[13:11] <geekyogi> W: GPG error: http://all.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AB6DA34B475A6B7F W: GPG error: http://64.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AB6DA34B475A6B7F W: GPG error: http://source.repository.backtrack-linux.o
[13:11] <odix> supergrubdisk ?
[13:11] <odix> huh?
[13:11] <ikonia> geekyogi: they are back track repos - not for ubuntu
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: pastebin the whole output please, like I asked
[13:12] <geekyogi> Yes I know
[13:12] <o__oll> supergrubdisk is a utility disk that just looks for grub config files regarless of mbr
[13:12] <ikonia> geekyogi: ok - so why are you trying to use them with ubuntu ?
[13:12] <odix> One of them is completely wiped, the other has the os on it, if i just 0plug the one with the os on it, it boots and runs fine, if i just plug the one with nothing on it, it does nothing, if i plug both in i get dropped to a shell
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: so why paste the text here like that when "you know"?
[13:12] <o__oll> you can use it to try and boot into otherwise broken systems most of the time
[13:12] <odix> i havent tried that
[13:12] <geekyogi> so that I can make use of backtrack packages
[13:12] <geekyogi> on ubuntu
[13:12] <ikonia> geekyogi: that is not supported, there are certain things different, you don't mix and match like that
[13:13] <JaggMo> ActionParsnip: Done.. Now do u want me to restart pc?....
[13:13] <ikonia> geekyogi: if you want to use backtrack pages, use backtrack linux
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: can you give a PASTEBIN of both commands I gave
[13:13] <o__oll> odix, Oh also, something silly: this helped on my desktop once, did you try a different arrangement of the drive connections?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> JaggMo: sure
[13:13] <odix> yes =)
[13:13] <o__oll> i.e. plugging them into different ports
[13:13] <odix> the bios reads both of htem on channel 0 sata
[13:13] <JaggMo> Thank u..  let me do that & get u back soon...
[13:13] <o__oll> odix, same issue?
[13:13] <odix> yup
[13:13] <o__oll> strange
[13:13] <geekyogi> After this operation, 2,105kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main python-configobj 4.7.1-1 [232kB] Get:2 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe pastebinit 1.1-1 [23.2kB] Fetched 255kB in 3s (78.3kB/s)
[13:13] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, :
[13:13] <odix> it always sets the wrong one as MASTER even tho that doesnt matter cause its sata
[13:13] <FloodBot1> geekyogi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:14] <odix> no matter what, it is a via embedded system
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: let pastebinit install, it will make a URL. What is it?
[13:14] <ThinkT510> !pastebin | geekyogi
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> odix: check settings in BIOS
[13:14] <odix> action: went through it all, been going for 5 hours at this
[13:15] <o__oll> odix, wow. at that point it might really be best to just backup and do a fresh setup.
[13:15] <odix> i know, i did, but without the other hd plugged in
[13:15] <odix> i didnt think that woudl matter ? I will do a fresh with both plugged in
[13:15] <odix> thats my next step right now
[13:16] <odix> i just dont get why that would matter if there is no partition table, i mean after all, how would you add additional storage ?
[13:16] <odix> it just does not make sense /
[13:16] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629791/
[13:16] <o__oll> odix, well the partition table contains the MBR, you can clear the MBR by creating a fresh partition table. just erasing the volume doesn't do that
[13:17] <o__oll> odix, but i'm starting to feel this might be a different issue than that alltogether
[13:17] <pierre_m57> test
[13:17] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, I didn't understand the use of Pastebin..
[13:17] <pierre_m47> test
[13:17] <Pici> pierre_m47: yes, we read you
[13:17] <Pici> geekyogi: paste your output there, press the button, then give us the url of the resulting page.
[13:17] <JaggMo> ActionParsnip: Sorry..  I still don't have RHEL option in startup menu itself...
[13:18] <buff27> pierre_m47, your working
[13:18] <o__oll> odix, If you're going to reinstall again make sure to just plug in _everything_ you plan on using to assure you have all the drivers and the automatic partitioning considers everything
[13:18] <buff27> pierre_m57, you work too
[13:18] <pierre_m47> thanks for your responses
[13:19] <o__oll> odix, unfortunately that's all the advice i can come up with, I'd been doing some reasearch for you on the side, too but my newsgroup and google fu isn't working well today
[13:19] <o__oll> although maybe there's someone more savvy than me in the chat that can help you more
[13:20] <WLU>  #emacs
[13:21] <Goliath> shockrates@ErebusPC:~$ sudo -H -u anonymous firefox
[13:21] <Goliath> [sudo] password for shockrates:
[13:21] <Goliath> No protocol specified
[13:21] <Goliath> how can i fix this?
[13:21] <FloodBot1> Goliath: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <JaggMo> wols_: I know boot partition installed in /dev/sda1, but how to find where the RHEL bootloader is installed to?
[13:22] <schu> hi there. when copying file from a local machine to a remote server with rsync, is there a way to auto-create the initial directory (say i want to put /files to myserver:/files but the remote dir doesn't exist yet)?
[13:22] <schu> copying files*
[13:25] <JaggMo> I installed RHEL 5.4, then installed Ubuntu 10.04. Now am not able to see RHEL in the startup menu...  Can any one help me........
[13:25] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629794/
[13:25] <ikonia> JaggMo: because the ubuntu grub has overwritten the redhat applied one
[13:25] <odix> thanks ool
[13:25] <ikonia> JaggMo: if you do an update-grub2 in ubuntu it may find and dicovery the redhat os - but I doubt it
[13:27] <JaggMo> ikonia: Ubuntu 10.04 has GRUB2 in it default, i believe...
[13:27] <ikonia> JaggMo: correct
[13:28] <JaggMo> ikonia: so..  do i need to update grub2 again?...
[13:28] <ikonia> JaggMo: no - I've just told you what to do
[13:28] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629794/
[13:28] <Goliath> how can i make a script i put in /etc/init.d/ start on boot?
[13:29] <JaggMo> ikonia: is it, sudo update-grub2 command?
[13:29] <Goliath> ?
[13:29] <bastidrazor> Goliath: put the script in /etc/rc.local instead.
[13:29] <ikonia> JaggMo: yes
[13:29] <JaggMo> ikonia: OK...
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: cheers, let me review
[13:30] <Goliath> bastidrazor: what does this do?
[13:30] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, I found the gpg keys for the packages. and Backtrack packages are getting installed on ubuntu without any problem.. but sitll would like to know how to disable gpg keys
[13:30] <Goliath> bastidrazor: write /etc/init.d/myscript in there?
[13:30] <Goliath> or what?
[13:30] <ikonia> geekyogi: man apt-get
[13:30] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, checks*
[13:30] <JaggMo> ikonia: let me restart pc, catch u then...
[13:30] <odix> i mean i dont even thin i should do this
[13:30] <ikonia> geekyogi: it's listed in the man page
[13:30] <odix> because how would i add new space then
[13:30] <odix> ive never had an issue like that,,,
[13:30] <odix> this*
[13:31] <Goliath> ?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> geekyogi: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AB6DA34B475A6B7F
[13:31] <Goliath> bastidrazor: e?
[13:32] <soziety> hello, anybody can recommend me a good client for vpn (pptp, ipsec) plz
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> soziety: network manager
[13:33] <JaggMo> ikonia: still no go...  how to do that manually?...
[13:33] <Goliath> FUCK UBUNTU
[13:33] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/629795/
[13:33] <soziety> I need a special function, when vpn falling down the internet will must falling down too
[13:34] <geekyogi> ActionParsnip, Thanks for your support.. appreciate it,. But I found the GPG keys and the issue is no more.. :)
[13:34] <wols_> JaggMo: you usually don't. it doesn't matter anyways since you most probably need to reinstall it. one bootloader you install the the MBR, the other you install into the partition that linux is installed to. then you add to the MBR-bootloader an entry for teh linux-partition bootloader
[13:34] <ikonia> !grub2 > JaggMo
[13:34] <o__oll> odix, I just thought of something. What mode are your drives running?
[13:34] <o__oll> ACPI, etc.
[13:35] <soziety> hello, anybody can recommend me a good client for vpn (pptp, ipsec) plz, I need a special function, when vpn falling down the internet will must falling down too
[13:35] <o__oll> Potentially switching them to JBOD might help.
[13:35] <ikonia> JaggMo: ubottu has just send you a pm with a grub wiki page, it explains how to manually add an entry, it's worth using the menu.lst file from your Red Hat install (it's in /boot/grub on your redhat machine)
[13:35] <szal> soziety: please rephrase the problem description, your sentence doesn't make sense
[13:36] <jpds> !info network-manager-pptp | soziety
[13:37] <bazhang> hi
[13:37] <pRoV7x>  hi   bazhang
[13:37] <o__oll> odix, another issue I see is that we've spent so much time on this issue that what we're talking about is no longer clear with the rest of the chat. if you want I could help you create a pastebin that outlines your issue and the steps we've taken so far and hopefully someone will be able to point out something we overlooked somewhere
[13:37] <bazhang> pRoV7x, please disable that
[13:38] <LjL> hi
[13:38] <pRoV7x>  hi   LjL
[13:40] <o__oll> odix, i also just though of someone else we could ask that probably knows these kind of problems WAY better than me
[13:40] <JaggMo> ikonia: got that...  letme go thru & try that... thanks...
[13:40] <ikonia> JaggMo: great
[13:40] <JaggMo> ubottu: got that...  letme go thru & try that... thanks...
[13:40] <asarch> md5sums?
[13:41] <asarch> Where are they?
[13:41] <Pici> !hashes | asarch
[13:41] <asarch> Thank you Pici! Thank you very much :-)
[13:41] <Pici> asarch: They should also be in a MD5SUMS file on the server where you got the iso
[13:41] <david___> hi
[13:41] <Woody4u_> hi, is it possible to lound a specific programm after a given usb harddisk is connected?
[13:42] <o__oll> odix, Try asking Suhana, from the peppermint (os) help chat. would probably know. Is practically always online on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:42] <asarch> I just clicked on "Download now"
[13:42] <kakashi_> whgat is the best way of deleting a huge huge file (of the order of 400 G)
[13:42] <Woody4u_> i want to automaticly start a backup everytime when i connect the disk
[13:42] <david___> after i installed KDE the Unity and planels wont load :(
[13:42] <kakashi_> I dont want to use rm, its slow as hell
[13:42] <dr_willis> unlink  perhaps
[13:42] <dr_willis> but i dont see why rm would be slow.. normally deletion is quite fast.
[13:43] <dr_willis> now 400000+ 1k files.. could be slow...
[13:43] <david___> brb
[13:43] <WildeJA> Good Afternoon All
[13:43] <kakashi_> well, this is taking a long long time
[13:43] <kakashi_> don really know why, probably the way it is stored
[13:43] <kakashi_> its a basically a file with the STDOUTS
[13:44] <kakashi_> its just a single file with oustream from C++
[13:45] <kakashi_> I am not sure, why it is taking such a long time
[13:45] <david___> ok back
[13:45] <david___> after i installed KDE the Unity and planels wont load :(
[13:46] <david___> it wont give me any error
[13:46] <o__oll> kakashi_ how about creating an empty file, then saving it under the name of the big file in the same directory as the big file
[13:46] <o__oll> overwriting might be faster.
[13:47] <dr_willis> i thought deleteing a file was  very fast because its just unlinking the name from  the data. I cant even rember the right terms now...
[13:47] <rinkukokiri> need help with this::  <info> (wlan0): device state change: 8 -> 3 (reason 38)
[13:48] <rinkukokiri> what does it mean
[13:48] <o__oll> david__,  could you clarify? Are you logging into the KDE enviroment or the unity environment?
[13:48] <david___> no Unity
[13:49] <wols_> rinkukokiri: you'd need to read the source to see what (and know a lot about this chip as well probably)