[08:08] <booger> can someone please tell me how to get rid of the black outline animation when that happens when i minimize a window
[08:08] <Warbo> peabody: I used it recently and I think it helps. It is possible to shrink a fragmented filesystem, but since it is full of gaps, the "used space" is actually more than it should be
[08:08] <userundefine> peabody, "require a defrag"?  I've messed with ntfs partitions in gparted and never seen anything about defragging
[08:08] <peabody> booger: Good question.  I hav no idea
[08:08] <Warbo> yairgo`: Keep free space and Ubuntu will set itself up in it
[08:08] <Warbo> !gparted > yairgo`
[08:09] <booger> i've removed them from happening when i open an app, but not for minimizing...anyone have ideas?
[08:09] <[b] urk> peabody, its smart to defrag, its less go wrong
[08:09] <[b] urk> less likely*
[08:09] <peabody> userundefine: A long time ago I was under the impression that gparted resizing basically didn't check if the end of what you were resizing was used
[08:09] <Warbo> booger: The only thing I can think of is System Tools>Configuration Editor
[08:09] <yairgo`> i have a windows partitioning program i can use really quick
[08:09] <booger> Warbo: i guessed its there, but there is so much, i'm not sure where to look
[08:10] <userundefine> peabody, ah, well, I've never resized ntfs with gparted, so I wouldn't know.
[08:10] <Warbo> yairgo`: GParted has a 0% record of failures if the user follows the instructions. Windows programs aren't as good
[08:10] <Warbo> booger: It would be metacity, but I don't know if there is such an option
[08:10] <darth_gimp> Warbo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19275
[08:10] <Warbo> (apps>metacity)
[08:10] <yairgo`> how do i run gparted when i do not have any flavor of unix installed
[08:10] <llama32> how do i use ntp? i just want to synch my clock with ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[08:11] <peabody> So what other neat things can I do with my desktop now that I got compiz up and runnig?
[08:11] <peabody> I dig the cube flip
[08:11] <llama32> yairgo`: knoppix, sysrescuecd have qparted
[08:11] <ardchoille> booger: This is a window manager specific thing. You can switch window managers in gnome and that is one way of fixing it.
[08:11] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Have you added it to fstab?
[08:11] <rob138> Hi, i have searched and have yet to find a solution, the forums did not return anything in my problem, whenever i enter a website that has any sort of flash, ie youtube, homestarrunner, it have ffunctional flash (w/o sound though), but as i leave the page, firefox crashes. can anyone help me
[08:11] <Knome> broken apt: http://pastebin.ca/107985
[08:11] <userundefine> peabody, play with the plugin options.  turn on raindrops and let your eyesight go to rubbish
[08:11] <darth_gimp> Warbo, no
[08:11] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Or are you using a -t option?
[08:11] <yairgo`> oh well ive already started the windows repartition so its no big deal
[08:12] <darth_gimp> Warbo, sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/shawn/drive2
[08:12] <peabody> userundefine: cool, raindrops, will do
[08:12] <booger> ardchoille, can you elaborate?  how does one switch managers?
[08:12] <yairgo`> and besides if it fails ill just reinstall with just ubuntu and use my laptop for windows
[08:12] <booger> Warbo, there is a metacity in the gconf-editor...i'll try to see if there is an option, though i'm not sure what any of it means
[08:12] <peabody> Is there a way to get a fast video overlay in xgl?
[08:12] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Well, it is complaining that the partition is not an NTFS partition. Which is what we want, but for some reason it is not mounting it as ext3
[08:13] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Add "-t ext3" to the mount line
[08:13] <kintaro0e> hi guys..what shall i install to open a *.rar file?
[08:13] <ardchoille> booger: Metacity is the default window manager in gnome. You can switch to fluxbox, openbox, blackbox or almost any other window manager. I switched to openbox as my window manager in gnome and I wrote a tutorial about how to do it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[08:13] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so           sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/shawn/drive2 -t ext3
[08:13] <Warbo> !info unrar-nonfree
[08:13] <ubotu> Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[08:13] <Warbo> !info unrar
[08:13] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:13] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yes
[08:13] <booger> ardchoille, thanks man, i'll look into it...
[08:14] <userundefine> peabody, what do you mean, fast video overlay?  video playback?
[08:14] <tehquickness> LG CU500
[08:14] <Warbo> ardchoille: I use E16 in GNOME. Works great
[08:14] <ardchoille> booger: There is a nice list of window managers at: http://xwinman.org/
[08:14] <tehquickness> I have a quick question, In my places menu, there is a new item called bookmarks and when I expand it, it gives me a list of all the folders in the / directory anyone  know what could be causing this or how to fix it?
[08:14] <ardchoille> Warbo: e16 is awesome, good job :)
[08:14] <darth_gimp> Warbo, that seemed to work...
[08:15] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so do we now add it to fstab?
[08:15] <ardchoille> Warbo: Perhaps you should write a tutorial about how you switched to e16, would be a good reference for others :)
[08:15] <Geoffrey2> what is a good (and hopefully not expensive) VM I can run in Ubuntu?
[08:15] <peabody> userundefine: I tried to play a video.  It was much slower (not really watchable).  Super fast without xgl
[08:15] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yep. "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[08:15] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, vmware server.  it's free as in beer.
[08:15] <Warbo> !info qemu
[08:15] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2602 kB, installed size 7360 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[08:15] <Warbo> !info vmware-player
[08:15] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[08:15] <peabody> userundefine: I was curious if there was a way to make video overlays work
[08:16] <userundefine> peabody, strange.  Do you have your video card's drivers installed?  I can playback video smoothly with and without xgl/compiz on
[08:16] <darth_gimp> Warbo, kinda scary... what am I doing in the file?
[08:16] <peabody> userundefine: What video player?
[08:16] <rob138> Hi, i have searched and have yet to find a solution, whenever i enter a website that has any sort of flash, ie youtube, homestarrunner, it have ffunctional flash (w/o sound though), but as i leave the page, firefox crashes. can anyone help me
[08:16] <Recks> Heya
[08:16] <Recks> how would I change the permissions on a drive so I can access it?
[08:17] <userundefine> peabody, mplayer, but also VLC, Totem, and xine, but I don't really like those players.
[08:17] <peabody> userundefine: Let me try a few things from the commandline.
[08:17] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Look for your "/" line, then make a copy of it at the bottom. Then change all of the bits to the new options. Under "options" just put "defaults", and change the numbers at the end to 0  1
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> vmware or qemu?  do they basically function the same...any performance differences between the two?
[08:17] <kana> rob138: flash uses oss close anything that uses the sound device as i use flash
[08:18] <booger> Warbo, you nailed it right on the head...thanks so much
[08:18] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, why not try both, see which suits your fancy.
[08:18] <darth_gimp> Warbo, can I paste bin it for you?
[08:18] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: VMWare is faster
[08:18] <booger> ardchoille, thank you also
[08:18] <ardchoille> Recks: When you mount a drive, you mount it to a mountpoint. Change permissions of the mountpoint and that should enable you to write to it
[08:18] <tehquickness> Geoffrey: I would use vmware player and use qemu to create the virtual disks
[08:18] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Qemu can do multiple processors (PowerPC, etc.) but if you want to virtualise, rather than emulate, you will need KQemu which is on qemu.org
[08:18] <ardchoille> booger: You're welcome :)
[08:18] <Warbo> darth_gimp: OK
[08:19] <darth_gimp> Warbo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19276
[08:19] <booger> one more question...Does anyone know how to make Thunderbird the default Mail Client?
[08:20] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, I'll probably want to spend some time examining qemu's website, since I really don't know what the difference is between "virtualising" and "emulating"
[08:20] <drnick_> for thunderbird go to system - prefrences -preferred applications
[08:20] <ardchoille> booger: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[08:20] <tehquickness> I have a quick question, In my places menu, there is a new item called bookmarks and when I expand it, it gives me a list of all the folders in the / directory anyone  know what could be causing this or how to fix it?
[08:21] <Warbo> darth_gimp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19277
[08:21] <ardchoille> tehquickness: Open nautilus, go to Bookmarks in the menubar
[08:21] <drnick_> thequickness are you sure your not in "tree' viw?
[08:21] <tehquickness> hmm
[08:21] <tehquickness> well it is on the "start menu"
[08:22] <tehquickness> oo ok edit
[08:22] <tehquickness> gotcha
[08:22] <tehquickness> problem solved thanks lol
[08:22] <drnick_> np
[08:22] <darth_gimp> Warbo, ok I pasted that and saved it...
[08:22] <ardchoille> tehquickness: When you set bookmarks in nautilus, they also show up in the Places menu
[08:22] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so then.. is the drive now ready for use? Will it be mounted at start up?
[08:22] <tehquickness> ardchoille: thanks
[08:23] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[08:23] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Emulating is creating a computer out of software. It means you can run any computer (Mac, Amiga, Sega, Playststion, etc.) inside another, but it goes slow. Virtualising makes an emulator of the computer you are running (probably a PC), but instead of emulating everything, there is no point since you already have a PC, so it sends the processing and stuff directly to your real hardware (but in a non-conflicting way).
[08:24] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yes it will be mounted at startup, or when you run "sudo mount -a"
[08:24] <darth_gimp> Warbo, thank-you sooooo much
[08:24] <Recks> what's the shell command to move a file from one drive to another?
[08:24] <userundefine> Recks, mv
[08:24] <Recks> kk thx
[08:24] <Warbo> Recks: "mv /location1 /location2"
[08:24] <darth_gimp> Warbo, so am I correct in thinking that anything I put into the drive2 folder will be added to the drive?
[08:25] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Yes
[08:25] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, are there any downsides to Virtualizing?
[08:25] <Warbo> darth_gimp: You may need to run "sudo chmod 777 /home/shawn/drive2"
[08:25] <darth_gimp> Warbo, you've saved me soooo much frustration! Thanks a million!
[08:26] <effbiae> hi all, anyone got a minute to help me diagnose interface and dhcp probs?
[08:26] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: It is slower than running a real computer, but the best virtualisers (like VMWare) is almost full speed (when you take into account that you are running 2 operating systems at the same time)
[08:26] <malawi> hello everybody
[08:26] <tehquickness> anyone use a dell laptop in here?
[08:26] <malawi> Greetings from poland
[08:26] <malawi> I am ubuntu operator 6.06 version
[08:27] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Virtual computers are more secure than real ones as well, since if Windows gets full of viruses in a virtual machine you can just close it and carry on running Ubuntu
[08:27] <buddhalover> hi malawi
[08:27] <malawi> hi
[08:27] <malawi> where r u from??
[08:29] <malawi> Its there any people??
[08:29] <Geoffrey2> Warbo, so if I wanted to run both Windows and Ubuntu, I'd be better off running Windows inside a VM in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: I would say so
[08:29] <Recks> Is there a place to get codecs to play .avi files and like .wmv files?
[08:29] <buddhalover> malawi: i'm from the philippines
[08:30] <bimberi> !codecs
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:30] <ripdisk> how does one get the sshd to work in 5.0
[08:30] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Ubuntu is seen as more stable than Windows, so Windows is more likely to crash. If it crashes in a VM you will need to restart it. If it crashes with Ubuntu in a VM, it will take down Ubuntu too
[08:30] <malawi> ok
[08:30] <bimberi> ripdisk: sudo aptitude install ssh
[08:30] <ripdisk> just type that?
[08:30] <buddhalover> i am running a kubuntu-edubuntu mutant because i screwed up the packages. :(
[08:30] <userundefine> buddhalover, from stumbleupon, right?
[08:31] <buddhalover> yup
[08:31] <Geoffrey2> I realize the opinion in here would be "just don't use Windows", but there are simply some applications I like to use that have no equivalent in Linux, and probably never will
[08:31] <buddhalover> ;)
[08:31] <bimberi> ripdisk: ubuntu doesn't install a sshd by default so yes, that will instal it
[08:31] <Warbo> buddhalover: There is no difference really. They are the same distro
[08:31] <malawi> To my comp i have Windows Aurox ubuntu Free BSD and Red Hat
[08:31] <buddhalover> userundefine you stumble?
[08:31] <chris86wm> Geoffrey2, why not dual boot?
[08:31] <userundefine> buddhalover, sure, you [used to]  send me a bunch of links.  I haven't used stumbleupon in a while
[08:31] <ripdisk> bimberi: do i have to do anything to make it start on boot
[08:31] <Recks> Where would I get codecs to play .avi's and .wmv's in linux?
[08:31] <tehquickness> Geoffry: what programs are the must have programs?
[08:32] <buddhalover> i haven't been sending links much recently.... too many clicks to send the good stuff...
[08:32] <bimberi> ripdisk: nope, it will be started on boot, as well as when you install it
[08:32] <ardchoille> !codecs > Recks
[08:32] <buddhalover> 1500 clicks to send to everyone.
[08:32] <ripdisk> bimberi: thank you!
[08:32] <bimberi> ripdisk:  np :)
[08:32] <userundefine> buddhalover, a hassle surely.
[08:32] <Recks> ardchoille: what?
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> chris86wm, I do that now...but I was on here a few nights ago and it was suggested there were advantages to running Windows inside Ubuntu, rather than dual booting...big one being you don't need to keep rebooting to use the applications in each OS
[08:32] <buddhalover> userundefine: what's your stumbleupon name?
[08:32] <tehquickness> buddhalover: what links do you want to send?
[08:32] <ardchoille> Recks: Read the pm that ubotu sent you
[08:32] <userundefine> buddhalover, p0ldy. http://p0ldy.stumbleupon.com/
[08:33] <ripdisk> bimberi: for the record, I run slackware, this is just for a friend that doesn't understand the power of asking people stuff on irc, and i'm using this as an example
[08:33] <buddhalover> oh poldy i know you
[08:33] <buddhalover> :)!
[08:33] <buddhalover> you have a very interesting avatar
[08:33] <buddhalover> reminds me of a facial
[08:33] <userundefine> Yeah I like it
[08:33] <buddhalover> lol
[08:33] <bimberi> ripdisk: kk, hopefully (s)he's impressed :)
[08:33] <ripdisk> bimberi: lol, thanks bye
[08:33] <chris86wm> Geoffrey2, why not do both (dual boot and run VM)?
[08:33] <buddhalover> tehquickness: just the quality stuff
[08:34] <chris86wm> the VM being inside of ubuntu of course
[08:34] <tehquickness> buddhalover: lol
[08:34] <Warbo> chris86wm: And pay for 2 Windows licenses?
[08:34] <tehquickness> buddhalover: it better be the best
[08:34] <buddhalover> who else stumbles in here?!
[08:34] <buddhalover> ;)
[08:34] <ardchoille> !offtopic
[08:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:34] <chris86wm> Warbo, pay for 2 licenses? that wouldnt be needed
[08:34] <jbrimble_> Hi. I'm installing my new Fuji Xerox 203A laser printer, and Ubuntu has detected it.. Now it's asking me for a driver.. And the manufacturer has been set to alps. Which driver do I use? They all have names like MD 1000 ot MD 5500.. ?
[08:34] <zcat[1] > how do I stop soundcards jumping around; sometimes when I boot the first card is /dev/dsp and other times it comes up as /dev/dsp1
[08:34] <tehquickness> owned my bad
[08:35] <Warbo> chris86wm: I am pretty sure it is illegal to run it in a VM and PC with one license
[08:35] <buddhalover> sorry
[08:35] <crimsun> zcat[1] : that's a device init issue and there's not much that can be done about that. Why not use asoundconf(1)?
[08:35] <chris86wm> Warbo, but its all installed on the one PC
[08:35] <tehquickness> warbo: I am not sure about that
[08:35] <Warbo> chris86wm: Unless you use your physical disk as the VM's drive, which is dangeraous
[08:35] <tehquickness> warbo: it is only being used on one pc
[08:35] <chris86wm> Warbo, as long as it is all done one one pc, then I think its alright
[08:36] <chris86wm> *on one PC
[08:36] <zcat[1] > what, every time I boot?
[08:36] <Warbo> chris86wm: I was wondering about that kind of thing when I wrote up the VMWare Wiki page
[08:36] <Geoffrey2> chris86wm, reason #1, 20GB HD
[08:36] <chris86wm> lol @ 20 gigs, you know you can buy a bigger drive
[08:37] <chris86wm> hard drives are cheap these days
[08:37] <zcat[1] > problem; I have cron jobs set up to record the radio. The radio is plugged into the second soundcard which _used_ to ALWAYS be /dev/dsp1 .. now half the time when I reboot it's /dev/dsp
[08:37] <Warbo> chris86wm: Just to run Windows? I think that is an argument to NOT run Windows :)
[08:37] <chris86wm> 20 gigs wouldnt be enough for me to run anything
[08:38] <darth_gimp> What would cause the trash to not empty?
[08:38] <userundefine> Warbo, at least Vista licensing, not sure about pre-Vista, is going to disallow Vista being run in more than four instances on a PC with the same license, afaik.
[08:38] <Warbo> *first
[08:38] <chris86wm> if you must stick with only 20, then it would be best to stick with the dual boot only i think
[08:38] <buddhalover> i need help...
[08:38] <ahmeni> was looking at sata drives today, like $55 canadian for 80 gigs
[08:38] <trafiq> !info edgy
[08:38] <ubotu> Package edgy does not exist in dapper
[08:39] <Warbo> userundefine: Yeah, I read about that on Slashdot. Not sure about XP htough
[08:39] <trafiq> !status edgy
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about status edgy - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:39] <darth_gimp> ahmeni, not a bad price!
[08:39] <ahmeni> the kind of prices that make you want to do silly things with raid
[08:39] <Geoffrey2> whoops, my bad...40GB
[08:39] <bimberi> !edgy
[08:39] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:39] <trafiq> ah :p
[08:39] <trafiq> thx
[08:39] <bimberi> np :)
[08:39] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: Got files in the Trash that are owned by another user? ls -lha ~/.Trash
[08:39] <chris86wm> Warbo, that issue is one similar to dvd playback in ubuntu. technically it may be illegal, but who is going to care?
[08:39] <trafiq> in this moment edgy is for masochist ;)
[08:39] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, I am sure there are things there that need to be Root
[08:40] <Warbo> chris86wm: Isn't that just in the US? I think I am fine
[08:40] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, but I do not know how to do that...
[08:40] <chris86wm> warbo, yea, just in the us
[08:40] <Warbo> yay for the UK :)
[08:40] <chris86wm> lol, i am breaking the law if I watch my purchased dvd on my ubuntu box
[08:40] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: What exactly are you trying to do Empty the trash?
[08:40] <chris86wm> that is rediculous
[08:41] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, yes... empty it
[08:41] <Warbo> chris86wm: Well it has only been legal for me to rip CDs for my portable player for a few weeks
[08:41] <jbrimble_> anyone know where i can get drivers for my xerox for ubuntu?
[08:41] <Warbo> !printer
[08:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:41] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: Open a term and type:  ls -lha ~/.Trash   and see who owns the files
[08:41] <chris86wm> lol, its a crazy world
[08:42] <chris86wm> how the hell else are you supposed to get mp3s for your player? did they expect you to rebuy the album in mp3 format?
[08:42] <zcat[1] > chris86wm: you can buy mp3's ??
[08:42] <Warbo> iTunes
[08:42] <Warbo> Napster, etc.
[08:42] <userundefine> chris86wm, did they expect you to rebuy 8tracks, tapes, and cds?  Yes, of course
[08:43] <Warbo> Mind you, is an iTunes account only for iPod owners?
[08:43] <chris86wm> no
[08:43] <Geoffrey2> tehquickness, lesse...Windows programs I use....Itunes, Real Arcade, Quicktime, WIndows Media Player, a legal DVD player, to name a few
[08:43] <crimsun> zcat[1] : does the app /have/ to use alsa's oss emulation?
[08:43] <zcat[1] > in NZ it is still illegal to rip your own CD's. iTunes is not available here. iPods can only be used for free content.
[08:43] <chris86wm> but iTunes is a horrid app
[08:43] <buddhalover> my graphire3 tablet is detected by ubuntu. but it is shaking now. i can't draw properly anymore. anyone have any idea why this is? worked fine on windows before i shifted to ubuntu and destroyed windows completely.
[08:43] <crimsun> zcat[1] : (and no, you'd only run asoundconf once)
[08:43] <Warbo> userundefine: They will expect you to buy OGGs in a few years, if you are on about "upgrades"
[08:44] <crimsun> zcat[1] : (meaning the entire point is to avoid having to specify indices that are possibly ephemeral)
[08:44] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, "ls: /root/.Trash: No such file or directory"
[08:45] <chris86wm> any of you guys use Gimpshop?
[08:45] <Warbo> I hear it is a little buggy
[08:45] <userundefine> Warbo, I can't see major distributors endorsing something they can't attach every ugly DRM tool they want, as would (I hope) with OGG
[08:45] <dirt> hey i just got home, and ubuntu crashed at the lock screen, so i reset and now im getting crc failed system halted at startup, what should i do to fix this?
[08:45] <chris86wm> i have been meaning to try it, but im lazy
[08:45] <darth_gimp> chris86wm, I use Gimp... but not the gimpshop.. sorry
[08:45] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: It's supposed to have a Trash folder.. mine does
[08:45] <Warbo> userundefine: They could add DRM to it, since it is FLOSS, but GPL3 would force them to allow users to remove it if they want
[08:45] <chris86wm> darth_gimp, yeah currently i am using gimp
[08:46] <zcat[1] > crimsun: you want the full story; a friend of mine has onboard sound (used for playing stuff and text-to-speech cos he's blind), two PCI cards which record stuff via crontab (both using ens1371 chipset) and a USB transmitter. Under breezy they were /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2 and /dev/dsp3, now they're all /dev/wtf every time the machine boots. How do I solve this?
[08:46] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, I'm not sure what to say...
[08:46] <blind> ;o
[08:46] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: Me either
[08:46] <godtvisken> Anyone know of a software email client that is as good as or emulates gmail?
[08:46] <Warbo> darth_gimp: Each partition and device has a folder ".Trash-username" in it's root (top level) directory, and they are counted as part of your trash
[08:47] <crimsun> zcat[1] : you can't if they use the same chipset, since device init is non-deterministic.
[08:47] <zcat[1] > It used to be consistyent every single reboot. What changed?
[08:47] <crimsun> zcat[1] : the best you can do is tell one driver /not/ to grab the default index
[08:47] <zcat[1] > should I just give up and reinstall breezy again..?
[08:47] <buddhalover> ...
[08:47] <userundefine> Warbo, they'd have to distribute the source to the DRM even before gpl3, and considering the ironclad protection of their other schemes like CSS I'm sure it would be quickly exploited ;)
[08:48] <crimsun> zcat[1] : dapper has a completely different method of hardware activation via udev.
[08:48] <ttyfscker> anybody in here use a network card that uses the "tulip" module?
[08:48] <zcat[1] > great. I wich someone had warned me.
[08:48] <dirt> anyone know how to fix a crc error at startup? im running a memtest now...
[08:48] <majestikm> I'm tri-booting, but somehow my mbr got messed up and when I try to boot into winxp it starts up ubuntu... is there any way to repair this, or do I need to start over?
[08:48] <Geoffrey2> tehquickness, I realize for *nix purists most of those programs, like Itunes, are programs to be avoided at all costs....but I grew up with Windows, and those are programs I simply still want to be able to make use of...the only real question is, does it make more sense to go on dual booting, or to run Windows inside Ubuntu
[08:49] <ttyfscker> i installed dapper onto my old pos machine.. and the live cd worked fine on the net.. the install however it loads the module, but it wont get a dhcp reply from the dhcp server and when i set the ip statically it still cant find a route to host.. anybody got any ideas ?
[08:49] <[b] urk> majestikm, try to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:49] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, looks like I need root to remove some of the files...
[08:49] <dirt> im running dapper btw
[08:49] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: If your computer is 2.5GHz or more I would say VMWare would be fine. Anything below that would be awful for virtualised media players
[08:49] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, run windows inside ubuntu.  It's easy and painless/
[08:49] <majestikm> burk, I'm using lilo
[08:50] <tehquickness> Geoffry: sorry i was away for a bit, I am by no means a linux purist and I realizes that there are some programs that jst game be done with out
[08:50] <userundefine> *-/
[08:50] <chris86wm> Geoffrey2, if you plan on using windows more than 50% of the time, then I would just dual boot
[08:50] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, what's the terminal command to delete stuff?
[08:50] <ttyfscker> Geoffrey2:: if you just need one or two apps on occassion then i suggest using vmware
[08:51] <tehquickness> Geoffry: I too have found that there are a few that I cant leave because i need the mfor school, but unless it is a game with hardcore rendering, then you should be able to use vmware
[08:51] <[b] urk> majestikm, try /etc/lilo.conf
[08:51] <gnomefreak> darth_gimp: rm for files and folders
[08:51] <majestikm> okay
[08:51] <majestikm> thanks
[08:51] <Warbo> darth_gimp: rm filename
[08:51] <kana> ttyfscker: would vmware work with printers, scanners and modems that are not supported on linux?
[08:51] <chris86wm> you could always just try to use a vm, and if you dont like it, dont use it
[08:52] <zcat[1] > is there any way of turning off udev and going back to the old behaviour?
[08:52] <ttyfscker> kana:: i have a webcam that isnt supported by linux at all, and it works fine using vmware
[08:52] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: for root? sudo rm  for files,  sudo rm -r  for folders.. but be careful with that
[08:52] <darth_gimp> Warbo, what about folders?
[08:52] <dirt> can someone help me out, i cant load dapper and im stuck on a windows box till i figure out what to do about this crc failed error im getting at startup
[08:52] <kana> ttyfscker: did you need special setting on linux for that?
[08:52] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, thanks
[08:52] <Warbo> darth_gimp: "rm -r foldername"
[08:52] <ttyfscker> kana:: no it was plug and play
[08:52] <Geoffrey2> I had broken down and installed totem-xine, realizing the odds of a patent and copyright friendly wma/wmv player for Linux were slim to nonexistant...but at least on my computer totem playback of protected formats is atrocious at best
[08:53] <ttyfscker> kana:: vmware has really came a long way...  its pretty seamless nowadays
[08:53] <darth_gimp> You guys are awesome!
[08:53] <darth_gimp> ardchoille, thanks
[08:53] <kana> ttyfscker: and seems promising. Do i have to install the full windows or can i just use a window i am dual booting
[08:53] <darth_gimp> Warbo, thanks
[08:53] <ardchoille> darth_gimp: You're welcome :)
[08:53] <Warbo> ttyfscker: Especially since it is in Add/Remove
[08:53] <jn> ttyfscker: sup? can i msg you..
[08:53] <chris86wm> geoffrey have you tried mplayer or vlc?
[08:53] <ttyfscker> jn:: sure bro
[08:54] <ttyfscker> kana:: there is an option for using an existing windows partition when you set up your virtual machine.  but it wont work if its ntfs
[08:54] <zcat[1] > I assume the network cards on my firewall are going to swap around randomly now too then?
[08:54] <[b] urk> how can i make a shortcut to my home folder on my gnome desktop?
[08:55] <Amaranth> [b] urk: it's a gconf key
[08:55] <ttyfscker> kana:: or at least thats the only reason i could think of that i couldnt use my existing partition.. you can however just create a virtual machine partition.. that works better anyway.. if you use vmware for your other partition it will most likely mess things up when you actually boot windows normally
[08:55] <kana> ttyfscker: thanx though i have no option i have it as ntfs and can not install window it is the way lenovo set the dam machine
[08:55] <Geoffrey2> no, I'll have to try them and see if they work better...under totem-zine, wmv playback looks extremely overexposed..with large portions of the video playback almost completely washed out
[08:55] <Amaranth> [b] urk: open gconf-editor and go to /apps/nautilus/desktop, tick the home_icon_visible key
[08:55] <zcat[1] > who the fsck decided it was a good idea to have the kernel allocated devices names in absolutely no predictable order?
[08:55] <ttyfscker> kana:: a virtual machine will install as 1 file on your linux partition
[08:56] <darth_gimp> Well I think I'm done for tonight..
[08:56] <darth_gimp> thanks a bunch!
[08:56] <[b] urk> Amaranth, thanks :)
[08:56] <Amaranth> zcat[1] : they're ordered in the order than they come up
[08:56] <kana> ttyfscker: for lenovo only way to install window is from the rescue partition which do not honour or recognize linux lol
[08:56] <Amaranth> zcat[1] : come up as in start working
[08:56] <zcat[1] > which has been different on about six consecutive reboots.
[08:56] <PORDO> i have a usb speakerphone that should use the module snd-usb-usx2y.  how do i modprobe this.  when i modprobe the actual .ko file, it says it isn't found, even though i'm modprobing it directly.
[08:57] <ttyfscker> kana:: if your in linux all you have to do is use vmware workstation.. it will install windows like that
[08:57] <Amaranth> kana: My HP was like that but I paid the $10 extra to get a WinXP cd with it. Then I wiped the rescue partition.
[08:57] <kana> ttyfscker: thanx for all the info and help friend :)
[08:57] <zcat[1] > for all practical purposes they're completely random.
[08:57] <ttyfscker> kana::  your welcome
[08:57] <Amaranth> zcat[1] : so your hardware is consistent
[08:57] <kana> Amaranth: lenovo will only send me a set of rescue partitions
[08:57] <Amaranth> kana: annoying
[08:57] <kana> Amaranth: will never send the window install one
[08:58] <kana> Amaranth: and those are 6 CDs lol
[08:58] <PORDO> does anyone have any clue how to get the mvox mv100 working under linux?
[08:59] <the_hammer> what compiler do ya need for ubuntu?
[08:59] <zcat[1] > is there any way of making this work? turning udev off? running the breezy kernels?
[08:59] <Warbo> the_hammer: None :)
[08:59] <Warbo> the_hammer: If you want one install build-essential to get GCC 4.0
[08:59] <zcat[1] > otherwise I am going to have to completely reinstall to get back to breezy which was mostly working
[09:00] <the_hammer> i have an eggdrop and cant seem to get it working
[09:00] <ttyfscker> kana:: what is lenovo?
[09:00] <kana> IBM
[09:00] <Warbo> ttyfscker: A company. Bought IBM's PC business
[09:00] <the_hammer> it almost works on wifes pc but her dcc isnt working cuz of router
[09:00] <chris86wm> lenovo sounds so gay lol
[09:00] <burepe> anyone use vnc from a mac to view an ubuntu comp
[09:00] <Warbo> chris86wm: Gay? Please don't use gay as an insult
[09:01] <ttyfscker> lenovo sounds like some arabian company
[09:01] <burepe> word
[09:01] <Warbo> They are chinese I htink
[09:01] <chris86wm> well, how about odd
[09:01] <kana> Warbo: correct
[09:01] <ttyfscker> ohh come on
[09:01] <ttyfscker> ubuntu is supporting the queers now?
[09:01] <Warbo> chris86wm: You realise you just said "gay == odd"? Anyway, I don't have a problem with odd :)
[09:02] <chris86wm> well gay=queer and queer=odd
[09:02] <the_hammer> what kind of install commands are for abuntu?
[09:02] <Gorlist> Hi, im going to reformat and reinstall windows on my second drive - how can i reinstall the Ubuntu Grub loader back onto the master boot record?
[09:02] <chris86wm> lol, sry to be offensive
[09:02] <Warbo> ttyfscker: No, Ubuntu is not offending anybody
[09:02] <ajmitch> ttyfscker, chris86wm: enough of that, ok
[09:02] <Warbo> gay=happy
[09:02] <Warbo> Lenovo sounds happy :)
[09:02] <ardchoille> !grub Gorlist
[09:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about grub Gorlist - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:02] <ardchoille> !grub > Gorlist
[09:02] <Gorlist> thankyou
[09:02] <zcat[1] > AAAAARGH!!!
[09:03] <crazy_penguin>   /names
[09:03] <ardchoille> /names -count
[09:03] <BeGeMoT> hi all
[09:03] <buddhalover> hello begemot
[09:04] <BeGeMoT> how i can set automake-1.9 by default... now i have automake 1.4
[09:04] <vigilante_> how do I download a package from Edgy that I found on packages.ubuntu.com ?
[09:04] <scrumpy> yo
[09:05] <Warbo> vigilante_: Just get the .deb file, it should give you a link to it
[09:05] <ttyfscker> vigilante_:: you dont unless your using edgy
[09:05] <scrumpy> very noob question but how do i access windows partitions
[09:05] <buddhalover> can anyone help me with my tablet problem?
[09:05] <Warbo> !ntfs
[09:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:05] <zcat[1] > does anybody know how to make the kernel stop using udev and go back to the old way of setting things up?
[09:05] <vigilante_> ttyfscker: I want a specific package from edgy that is only available there, it affects nothing else (kxdocker)
[09:06] <userundefine> zcat[1] , recompile the kernel without udev support.
[09:06] <Geoffrey2> ok, will mplayer support something like wmv by default, or do I need to add packages for that?
[09:06] <ttyfscker> vigilante_:: are you sure it doesnt have depends?
[09:06] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, you need to install the appropriate codecs, and then mplayer will play the files without hassle
[09:06] <Warbo> Geoffrey2: Put some Windows codecs in /usr/lib/codecs
[09:07] <apeman2021> can anyone tell me the file that contains the user rights?>
[09:07] <ttyfscker> well if the .deb package is on there download it to /tmp   and cd /tmp      then do dpkg -i packagename.deb
[09:07] <ardchoille> userundefine: except wmv9 files
[09:07] <apeman2021> is it passwd.conf?
[09:07] <vigilante_> Warbo: ttyfscker it does, but the depends are in dapper I believe
[09:07] <vigilante_> Warbo: I can't find link to deps
[09:07] <vigilante_> debs
[09:07] <zcat[1] > userundefine: is there any way to make udev pick up cards in specific order ?
[09:07] <ttyfscker> vigilante_:: if they arent the exact version then it wont install
[09:07] <vigilante_> ttyfscker: I want to try
[09:08] <chris86wm> Geoffrey, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[09:08] <userundefine> ardchoille, how are they different?  does that only apply to drm'd wmv files or all wmv9?  I haven't run across that
[09:08] <ttyfscker> well if the .deb package is on there download it to /tmp   and cd /tmp      then do dpkg -i packagename.deb
[09:08] <Warbo> vigilante_: IIRC click on the package's name
[09:08] <darth_gimp> Warbo, one last question
[09:08] <ttyfscker> did you read that vigilante_ ?
[09:08] <buddhalover> okay thanks anyway. I'll try figuring it out for myself for the mean time...
[09:08] <Geoffrey2> scrumpy, just a warning...if you're accessing ntfs partitions, don't try to write to them....support for that is questionable at best, and you can easily mess things up doing so
[09:08] <darth_gimp> Warbo, is there a trash on this new drive?
[09:08] <userundefine> zcat[1] , not that I know of, but I haven't ever tried looking into it so I wouldn't know either.
[09:08] <vigilante_> ttyfscker: yes, thankyou, just gotta find the deb now
[09:08] <Warbo> darth_gimp: It is in .Trash-username
[09:08] <zcat[1] > anyone else know?
[09:08] <ardchoille> userundefine: From what I hear *all* wmv9 are drm'd
[09:08] <Warbo> darth_gimp: (show hidden files)
[09:08] <userundefine> ardchoille, ah, wow, hadn't heard that
[09:09] <darth_gimp> Warbo, got it.. thanks...
[09:09] <vigilante_> Warbo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/x11/kxdocker where do I click on here?
[09:09] <darth_gimp> Warbo, I feel like such a newbie..
[09:09] <darth_gimp> Would this stuff be covered in the Ubuntu Book?
[09:09] <PORDO> is there ANY speakerphone that works in linux?
[09:09] <apeman2021> how can i give myself root permissions while logged in as a suer?
[09:09] <chris86wm> when is that book coming out btw?
[09:10] <Warbo> darth_gimp: I was a couple of years ago. Mind you I had some experience with a decent OS in Amiga (Shell, partitions, etc.)
[09:10] <PORDO> apeman2020 su
[09:10] <chris86wm> su
[09:10] <Warbo> apeman2021: "sudo -s -H"
[09:10] <darth_gimp> ok ... getting "the look" from my Wife...
[09:10] <darth_gimp> later
[09:11] <the_hammer> i cant figger out the commands for ubuntu ive tried make...make install...configure and none work
[09:11] <apeman2021> warbo_ thanks, but i cant edit any files as i am logged in as user.. it also wont let me change permissions..
[09:11] <Warbo> the_hammer: Use checkinstall instead of make install
[09:11] <ardchoille> the_hammer: Have you installed build-essential?
[09:11] <Warbo> !checkinstall
[09:11] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page.
[09:11] <ardchoille> !b-e
[09:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:11] <Warbo> apeman202Run sudo -s -H to get a root shell
[09:11] <the_hammer> mabe not how do i get that the build thing?
[09:11] <ku> !firestarter
[09:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:11] <apeman2021> the_hammer_same thing happened to me. i got a piece of software called ... enhanced_builder.. i canr rcalld
[09:11] <tehquickness> night all
[09:12] <ardchoille> !b-e > the_hammer
[09:12] <Warbo> the_hammer: Open up a package manager like System>Admin>Synaptic and install build-essential
[09:12] <chris86wm> lol, i love the name "ubotu"
[09:12] <apeman2021> all_ sudo -i will work as well!
[09:12] <apeman2021> thanks!
[09:12] <zcat[1] > found a solution; it seems I can probe what device ended up as /dev/wtf so all I have to do is check and if they're not in the right order, reboot. Eventually it will come up how it's supposed to be.
[09:13] <chris86wm> anyone know the release date of the Ubuntu Book?
[09:13] <Warbo> lol @ /dev/wtf. That should be the stderr
[09:13] <ardchoille> chris86wm: I saw an Ubuntu book in the mall two days ago. It had a yellow and black cover
[09:13] <chris86wm> ardchiolle, is that ubuntu for dummies lol?
[09:14] <ardchoille> no
[09:14] <apeman2021> could i do this as well "chown USER /etc/apache/httpd.conf"?
[09:14] <chris86wm> so THE ubuntu book has a yellow/black cover and is already out?
[09:14] <Warbo> apeman2021: DON'T do that
[09:14] <ompaul> chris86wm, there are several books
[09:15] <chris86wm> well the Official one
[09:15] <Madpilot> chris86wm, the official Ubuntu book is due out in mid-August sometime
[09:15] <chris86wm> ah
[09:15] <Madpilot> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132435942/ref=sr_11_1/002-0559408-7595222?ie=UTF8
[09:15] <zcat[1] > so what else does udev actually do? anything useful?
[09:15] <buddhalover> does anyone in here you a graphire3 tablet with ubuntu?
[09:15] <chris86wm> thats going to be a good read
[09:15] <the_hammer> warbo i tried this sudo Synaptic install build-essential and not doing anything
[09:15] <vigilante_> Warbo: I know the kxdocker deb is in Edgy/Universe... can I browse to it?  (doubleclicking on package name does not help)
[09:16] <Warbo> zcat[1] : Sort of. It controls your hardware. Kind of important...
[09:16] <chris86wm> ubuntu hacks was also a pretty good book
[09:16] <zcat[1] > Warbo: breezy managed without it
[09:16] <Warbo> the_hammer: "sudo aptitude install build-essential" Synaptic is a GUI
[09:16] <ardchoille> chris86wm: It's this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590596277/sr=1-1/qid=1154330161/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9794958-8417641?ie=UTF8&s=books
[09:16] <sgkf> hey how do i check if my sound cards installed in uuntu
[09:16] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : is it /dev entries that are random, or network interfaces?
[09:16] <sgkf> ubuntu
[09:16] <the_hammer> did nothing also
[09:16] <Warbo> vigilante_: put archive.ubuntu.com into your browser and go to the right "pool" folder
[09:17] <userundefine> the_hammer, what are you trying to install?
[09:17] <zcat[1] > /dev/dsp (there are four sound devices, onboard, two ens1371-based PCI cards, and a USB FM transmitter)
[09:17] <the_hammer> build-essential
[09:17] <Warbo> the_hammer: As in, it just dropped back to a termianl with absolutely no output?
[09:17] <chris86wm> ardchoille, I see. i havent seen that one before. for some reason a "yellow and black" cover made me think of the for dummies series of books
[09:17] <Nilvio> is there eny wow player here ?
[09:17] <ardchoille> chris86wm: Ah, yeah, I can see why you thought that
[09:17] <the_hammer> exactly
[09:18] <the_hammer> i put the comand in and hit enter and it just went back to a prompt again
[09:18] <Warbo> the_hammer: I find that very hard to believe
[09:18] <Warbo> the_hammer: "sudo aptitude"
[09:18] <ardchoille> chris86wm: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=br_ss_hs/002-9794958-8417641?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dstripbooks%3Arelevance-above&keywords=ubuntu&Go.x=7&Go.y=11&Go=Go
[09:19] <chris86wm> nice, a bunch to choose from
[09:19] <chris86wm> have you read any?
[09:19] <ttyfscker> the_hammer:: use this command exactly as i put it:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:19] <ttyfscker> that will work...
[09:20] <ardchoille> chris86wm: Not yet, but I'm planning to buy the one I showed you and The Official Ubuntu Book
[09:20] <zcat[1] > with four sound devices, it should take an average of about 16 reboots before they come up 'correctly' so unless someone has a batter suggestion, that script is the winner......
[09:20] <vigilante_> Warbo: thx, got it
[09:20] <ompaul> chris86wm, your now outside of the scope of the channel (support in reply to questions), we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chating
[09:20] <chris86wm> ah sry
[09:20] <zcat[1] > *better
[09:20] <ompaul> chris86wm, np
[09:20] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[09:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:20] <chris86wm> i wonder from time to time
[09:20] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : yes, udev rules are modifiable so that you should be able to enforce some device order
[09:21] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i19279 have a look
[09:22] <frandavid100> hiya! sorry to bother, but... what's the place to suggest new packages for the repos?
[09:22] <MTecknology> Does anybody know how to make ChatZilla start in a tab in firefox when I start my computer? Or at least how to make it start up?
[09:22] <ttyfscker> the_hammer:: thats F*cked up
[09:22] <frandavid100> if I wanted this on the repos, fo example, http://timesaver.sourceforge.net/ , what should I do?
[09:22] <ajmitch> frandavid100: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[09:23] <Warbo> the_hammer: Are you in the group "admin"?
[09:23] <kameronk> !aptitude
[09:23] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:23] <Geoffrey2> refresh my memory, if I have some Windows .exe installation files, can I just double-click them to make wine run them, or do i need to run them from the terminal?
[09:23] <the_hammer> yup
[09:23] <ttyfscker> Warbo:: even if he wasnt it would return a permission denied
[09:23] <frandavid100> let me check; thanks ajmitch
[09:23] <userundefine> MTecknology, you can put firefox in your startup programs, and you can use session saver to remember your default tabs (I'm 90% sure).  couple that together and you've got what you're after.
[09:23] <kameronk> does anyone in here run an apache server?
[09:23] <chris86wm> how the heck does that happen?
[09:23] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: I looked into that; I can't figure out what device I'm trying to name; /dev/dsp and /dev/audio and /dev/mixer all point to the same card, the only thing udevinfo shows different is noithing I can use
[09:23] <buddhalover> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcGuidelines
[09:23] <ttyfscker> kameronk:: i do..
[09:24] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: you think you could dig up an example for me?
[09:24] <the_hammer> told ya i wasnt fully sh*t lol
[09:24] <ardchoille> lol
[09:24] <MTecknology> userundefine, I actually have Fx startup with my computer, but Chatzilla doesn't open in a tab
[09:24] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : unlikely, I disabled my onboard sound that I never used :)
[09:24] <kameronk> ttyfscker, could you pastebin your config file? i accidentally deleted it and its nearly impossible to find one, and apt-get doesn't replace it
[09:24] <userundefine> MTecknology, try out the sessionsaver extension
[09:25] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: I don't think verne would be too happy without sound.
[09:25] <ardchoille> the_hammer: Type:  which sudo
[09:26] <jesspher> does adding a sound card to my pc boost my pc performance?
[09:26] <ttyfscker> kameronk::  sudo apt-get --purge apache
[09:26] <kameronk> cool
[09:26] <the_hammer> .../usr/bin/sudo
[09:26] <kameronk> let me try that
[09:26] <userundefine> jesspher, slightly, since sound output will be using your sound card instead of the CPU.
[09:26] <ttyfscker> kameronk:: that should remove it completely.  then sudo apt-get install apache
[09:26] <kameronk> it says invalid operation
[09:26] <ardchoille> the_hammer: ls -lha $(which sudo)
[09:27] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : I would have though you could use the SYSFS properties to distinguish them
[09:27] <jesspher> like how much mhz would it take away from the cpu
[09:27] <ardchoille> the_hammer: Who owns it?
[09:27] <the_hammer> ...-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 108K 2006-05-17 03:43 /usr/bin/sudo
[09:27] <ardchoille> weird
[09:27] <zcat[1] > SYSFS is the major and minor numbers, right?
[09:27] <psiborg> setuid sudo? :)
[09:28] <userundefine> jesspher, depends on the CPU, but nevertheless it won't increase performance *that much*
[09:28] <ardchoille> psiborg: it's alread -rws
[09:28] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : no, SYSFS is what's in /sys/devices, iirc
[09:28] <Ademan> hey how do you create a *.ttf font from a *.spec font?
[09:28] <ardchoille> *already
[09:28] <jesspher> but would i cause better sound clarity?
[09:28] <psiborg> Weird :)
[09:29] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : eg match on SYSFS{vendor} or model
[09:29] <kameronk> ttyfscker, it says: "E: Invalid operation apache" (i tried using apache2 as well
[09:29] <userundefine> jesspher, yes, sound cards have more advanced features for sound than motherboards.  you could also take a look at your speakers (quality)
[09:29] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV may help
[09:29] <ardchoille> Warbo: Would it be that since his sudo isn't working, that gksudo synaptic won't work either?
[09:29] <ajmitch> I'd also do this in a separate file if possible
[09:30] <nikin> !cat
[09:30] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:30] <zcat[1] > ahh, sorry.. yeah... I'm kinda confused, /dev/audio and /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer all point to the same card.. those numbers are all identical; what am I trying to NAME= ?
[09:30] <the_hamme1> ok tell me that sudo command again for the apt-get
[09:30] <the_hamme1> if it dont work this time im a gonna format
[09:30] <chris86wm> after installing keytouch, the default gui for showing volume level has been replaced. how do I revert back to the old one?
[09:30] <jesspher> what are the major companies that makes soundcards
[09:31] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:31] <nikin> synaptic is not working?
[09:31] <userundefine> jesspher, creative is pretty big.  if you're buying it for use with ubuntu or linux, you might want to check the forums and see what sound cards are best supported in linux, which I wouldn't know.
[09:31] <zcat[1] > ID=="0000:00:07.0" should be unique to identify the card; but what am I supposed to be setting?
[09:32] <the_hamme1> well thats messed up royally it worked this time
[09:32] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : my knowledge of this is fairly limited, too
[09:32] <ttyfscker> kameronk:: ask someone else how to use apt-get --purge
[09:32] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Diffeent user account?
[09:32] <ttyfscker> kameronk::  cuz im going to bed
[09:32] <zcat[1] > NAME="dsp" breaks everything; NAME="sound" breaks everything.... I guess there must be something else....
[09:32] <kameronk> thank you ttyfscker
[09:32] <the_hamme1> ya
[09:33] <thundr> I'm having problems getting my sound to work, can anyone help?
[09:33] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : most likely - the usual case is to name them dsp, dsp0, etc
[09:33] <zcat[1] > Why can't soundcards just get detected in PCI-bus order, starting from the lowest slot?
[09:33] <the_hamme1> was interesting anyway
[09:33] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Indeed
[09:35] <tabman> how can I browse the channels which are available on freenode ?
[09:35] <the_hamme1> do /list
[09:35] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : because udev gets notified in device load order, some modules may take fractionally longer to initialise the card
[09:35] <turtleJP> tis not responding at the moment
[09:37] <chris86wm> keytouch seems to have changed my volume gui, how do I revert back to the old one?
[09:37] <chris86wm> http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgl0.png
[09:37] <zcat[1] > I can follow the howto on setting eth0 and usb and stuff, but there's nothing unique between dsp and audio and mixer. Same card, same numbers. The only thing that changes is the major and minor which are basically random at each boot again.
[09:38] <chris86wm> its not a major issue, i just prefer the default one
[09:38] <zcat[1] > so if I give the PCI position of my network card and call it eth0 that should work; for the soundcard what do I call it? dsp is clearly not working.
[09:38] <the_hamme1> ok whats the build commands again for ubuntu make and make install isnt working
[09:39] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : they're most likely meant to all point to the same card, and you get subsequent cards getting dsp1, audio1, etc
[09:39] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: do you have build-essential installed?
[09:39] <the_hamme1> i have my egg backed up on cd and trying to get it to run
[09:39] <the_hamme1> yeah now i do
[09:39] <the_hamme1> lol
[09:39] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: You should read the README and INSTALL files in the sources first, but it usually goes ./configure, make, sudo make install
[09:40] <zcat[1] > ajmitch: yeah, I know that.. but if I pick the ID of the first card and try to NAME=dsp , everything breaks.. how do I tell the kernel I want to point /dev/dsp AND /dev/audio AND /dev/mixer to that card? when I look up any of those devices now all the numbers are the same.
[09:40] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ sudo ./configure
[09:40] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$
[09:40] <lecurel> Hello, I'm trying to install postfix and have read that i need to install postfix-tls, when I try to get from atp I get a message "you need to select one specify"
[09:40] <zcat[1] > There's no 'subdevice' that changes
[09:41] <arooni> hey folks
[09:41] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: you only need sudo for make install
[09:41] <balsat_> i have  a question about dcc
[09:41] <zcat[1] > afk...
[09:41] <the_hamme1> well when i do ./configure says permission denied
[09:41] <ajmitch> zcat[1] : probably 3 separate rules, each with same SYSFS attributes - I can't help much further at the moment
[09:41] <arooni> how do i tell ubuntu to use another partition (not the one its currently running on)
[09:42] <lecurel> i make install whith sudo
[09:42] <arooni> i mean
[09:42] <arooni> how do i tell it to put its swap stuff on that partition
[09:42] <Chabbrik> Hello, I have run into a problem. I install USB printer, but wizard specifies URI wrong. It tries to connect to /dev/usb/lp0, while the real address is /dev/lp0
[09:42] <Chabbrik> Symlinking didn't help
[09:42] <Chabbrik> Any advice is appreciated
[09:43] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ sudo ./configure
[09:43] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ sudo make install
[09:43] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$
[09:43] <userundefine> arooni, mkswap && swapon /dev/partition, then edit /etc/fstab and change the partition for Linux swap to the one you made.
[09:43] <the_hamme1> fricken pc hates me i think
[09:43] <balsat_> normally to get text fromm irc spy in dcc you us ctrl-v  but what is that in ubuntu
[09:43] <eniac_petrov> Guys, I have small GUI question - Can I change the splash screen, and from where? ( excuse me for my english)
[09:43] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: ./configure and make should not be done as root, make install is the only one that needs sudo.
[09:43] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: you shouldnt need sudo for ./configure and you skipped make
[09:43] <Ademan> is can you create debs from *.spec files?
[09:43] <arooni> userundefine: is there a gui tool for this or no
[09:44] <the_hamme1> im not on as root
[09:44] <userundefine> arooni, yes, gparted
[09:44] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: sudo ./configure should be ./configure
[09:44] <apeman2020> i cannot use the "make" function.. what package do i need to install?
[09:44] <the_hamme1> hammer@ubuntu:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$  ./configure
[09:44] <the_hamme1> bash: ./configure: Permission denied
[09:45] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Then you need to unpack the sources again somewhere in your home dir. Then do: ./configure, make and sudo make install
[09:45] <userundefine> eniac_petrov, System > Administration > Login Window
 10x
[09:45] <the_hamme1> ok how do i move it
[09:46] <arooni> userundefine: i dont find that with sudo apt-get install
[09:46] <arooni> userundefine: the partiiton the swap is currently on is running the os
[09:46] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: if you move it you'll have to mess with permissions, it'd just be easier to unpack
[09:46] <gnomefreak> arooni: go to the menu click on systems than admin than login window
[09:47] <arooni> userundefine: ok im there
[09:47] <arooni> userundefine: what should i do here... i dont see any partition stuff
[09:47] <userundefine> arooni, you're...where?
[09:47] <the_hamme1> ok its all ready to go already just i dunno how to make it go
[09:47] <arooni> userundefine: login window preferences
[09:48] <userundefine> That's what gnomefreak said, not me
[09:48] <arooni> oops
[09:48] <arooni> well maybe he wasnt talking to me
[09:48] <J-_> is there a way to have the terminal go right on the desktop?
[09:48] <the_hamme1> my mouse every once in a while jumps all over the darn screen to
[09:48] <arooni> userundefine: so how can i do this properly?
[09:49] <arooni> userundefine: im realy worrid about messing it up and losing data
[09:49] <the_hamme1> yes right click on term in the menu and send to desktop
[09:49] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: You using an optical mouse?
[09:49] <the_hamme1> ya
[09:49] <userundefine> arooni, well, where is your swap right now?
[09:49] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Clean the mouse or the mousepad. That happens to me now and then
[09:49] <arooni> userundefine: i have two partitions, one has everything (os/files/swap etc...) and the other has nothing (thats where i want to put the swap)
[09:50] <the_hamme1> why do i keep getting erros everytime i try to do something with my eggdrop says permission denied
[09:51] <the_hamme1> its pissen me off
[09:51] <arooni> userundefine: i have one which is /usr/sda (all files) and the otehr /usr/sbd
[09:51] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: That's a permissions problem
[09:51] <userundefine> arooni, OK.  you only need about a gig for swap at most, fyi.
[09:51] <the_hamme1> as user tho
[09:51] <the_hamme1> not root
[09:51] <arooni> userundefine: right now its 512 mb
[09:51] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Did you change the permissions of the tarball after you moved it?
[09:51] <arooni> userundefine: and im doing vmware to ubuntu, should it be larger
[09:52] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: because you used sudo when you should not have
[09:52] <userundefine> arooni, that's probably enough.  what did it say when you tried to install gparted?
[09:52] <userundefine> arooni, depends.  how much RAM do you have?
[09:52] <arooni> userundefine: 1 gig
[09:52] <the_hamme1> well thats cuz it said im denied persion
[09:52] <arooni> userundefine: but on linux i only have 580 mb
[09:52] <the_hamme1> man ubuntu is a pain
[09:52] <userundefine> arooni, linux isn't recognizing all your RAM?  that's odd.
[09:52] <ardchoille> the_hamme1: Ubuntu is just doing what you told it to do
[09:53] <gnomefreak> the_hamme1: re-compile it and use ./configure make than sudo make install  and please any more issues with this take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <the_hamme1> my eggy wont work
[09:53] <arooni>  userundefine:   gparted: Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1c2a but it is not going to be installed
[09:53] <htv8> anyone here?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> htv8: no
[09:53] <arooni> userundefine: no... i am running windows and then ubuntu linux as a vm machine
[09:53] <arooni> userundefine: and i only gave it 580mb
[09:54] <userundefine> arooni, oh, I see.
[09:54] <htv8> i can't burn a cd of the ubuntu image :(
[09:54] <userundefine> arooni, weird, it should install it with the dependency.  did you use sudo apt-get install?
[09:55] <thundr> I'm having problems getting my sound to work, can anyone help?
[09:55] <snoops> htv8 what're you using to burn it?
[09:55] <userundefine> !ask
[09:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:55] <arooni> userundefine: yes but then it said i might want to try with 'sudo apt-get -f' so i tried that... it hink it remembers the dependencies, its downloading stuff now
[09:55] <htv8> Nero
[09:55] <htv8> Burning Rom
[09:55] <userundefine> arooni, OK.  after that finishes, type gparted in the terminal and let the program startup.
[09:55] <htv8> but I get an error something like this: calibration area full
[09:55] <arooni> userundefine: ok now now its working... how do i run it once installed
[09:55] <snoops> how are you burning it? As a data cd or as a image cd?
[09:56] <htv8> something like that
[09:56] <htv8> as an image cd
[09:56] <arooni> gparted
[09:56] <arooni> heh
[09:56] <snoops> okay.. and what error do you get htv8?
[09:56] <htv8> calibration area full
[09:56] <kestas> hi, I can't log onto MSN with GAIM or AMSN
[09:57] <kestas> it just freezes or times out
[09:57] <kestas> is anyone here logged onto MSN?
[09:57] <snoops> sounds like a nice problem with your cd burner.. tried restarting?
[09:57] <Warbo> How do I get the icons in a panel to be as big as the panel? I have a 96 pixel high panel, but the icons just sit in the middle of loads of empty space
[09:57] <htv8> no
[09:57] <arooni> userundefine: should i create a msdos disklabel?
[09:58] <htv8> the cd burner is old however ...
[09:58] <arooni> userundefine: as theres no partition currently runnning on it
[09:58] <htv8> and i fucked up a cd already :P
[09:58] <Warbo> !language
[09:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:58] <thundr> Ubuntu isn't recognizing my sound card.  It's some integraded thing.  I don't know what do to first.
[09:58] <userundefine> arooni, no.  is gparted started?
[09:58] <arooni> userundefine: yes
[09:58] <wtj> !hi
[09:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:59] <wtj> interesting
[09:59] <snoops> htv8 heh cdrs these days are 5cents a pop.. not a big deal
[09:59] <arooni> userundefine: right now that partition is unallocated
[09:59] <arooni> userundefine: the one i want to put my swap
[09:59] <arooni> on
[09:59] <ardchoille> Warbo: About the icon size question.. I used to run ##gnome and the devs I talked to say it's not possible to change the icon size without some kind of 3rd party app
[09:59] <userundefine> arooni, OK.  highlight the empty partition, right-click and click Format To... linux-swap
[09:59] <htv8> hmm I don't know what to do know
[09:59] <htv8> now....
[09:59] <vincenz> Anyone a screen expert?
[10:00] <ardchoille> vincenz: Not an *expert* but I use screen daily. Maybe I can help
[10:00] <Warbo> ardchoille: Damn it. I use a 128x128 icon theme as well. I was trying to make a faster alternative to gdesklets' launcher panel
[10:00] <snoops> htv8 try restarting.. still no go then maybe new cd burner.. if you have multiple pcs over a network you could try a network install
[10:00] <userundefine> Warbo, I thought E16 had a launcher
[10:01] <vincenz> Well I heard of this nifty setup where a guy would have alternate CTRL+x stuff so that he had one "root" screen session, which connected to other boxes where he had screen running as well.  When I say alternate CTRL I mean instead of CTRL+a he used CTRL+c
[10:01] <Warbo> userundefine: Not that I know of
[10:01] <ardchoille> Warbo: You might ask in ##gnome and see if anyone knows something I don't
[10:01] <snoops> if you have a 1GB or more flash stick I guess you could put it on that, depending if your mobo supports usb booting
[10:01] <arooni> userundefine: ok its formatted as swap.. now how do i move the swap from the existing partition to the new one (i beleiveve the existing partition is on the same hard drive but under a different parititon)
[10:02] <ardchoille> vincenz: Hmm.. that's beyond my knowledge
[10:02] <htv8> hmm thank you for the info btw
[10:02] <Chabbrik> Hello, I have run into a problem. I install USB printer, but wizard specifies URI wrong. It tries to connect to /dev/usb/lp0, while the real address is /dev/lp0. Symlinking didn't help. What can I do about it?
[10:02] <arooni> userundefine: or can i leave them both as swap
[10:02] <arooni> userundefine: and linux will use both of them?
[10:02] <userundefine> arooni, no.  look in /etc/fstab and see if under 'type' it says 'swap' anywhere
[10:02] <arooni> userundefine: id like them both to be swap if thats possible (and linux use them both)
[10:03] <apeman2020> i would like to install MYSQL, could someone point me to the appropriate apt-get / wget command?
[10:03] <arooni> userundefine: i dont have a fstab sub directory under etc
[10:03] <ardchoille> !info mysql
[10:03] <ubotu> Package mysql does not exist in dapper
[10:03] <htv8> i've got a cleaning cd
[10:03] <htv8> maybe that would help?
[10:03] <snoops> anyone know if a file browser which lets me view the contents (with thumbnails etc) from multiple directories in the one window?
[10:03] <userundefine> arooni, it's a file, not a dir.  type "cat /etc/fstab" into terminal without quotes
[10:03] <htv8> a cd with hairs on it
[10:04] <arooni> userundefine: /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:04] <snoops> sure, no harm trying htv8.. usually there's a liquid you ened to apply to the cleaning cd beforehand
[10:04] <apeman2020> !info msyql
[10:04] <ubotu> Package msyql does not exist in dapper
[10:04] <gatekeeper> apeman2020, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_MYSQL_Database_Server
[10:05] <apeman2020> thanks!
[10:05] <ardchoille> !lamp
[10:05] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:05] <vigilante_> Anyone else using SMARTpm here? (I am getting file not found when I try to do an upgrade all)
[10:06] <userundefine> arooni, yes, I'm not sure *where* /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-swap_1 is actually located on disk, I've never installed without a swap partition.  Either way, you can replace /dev/* part with the partition you just created in gparted (make sure it's the right one), and next time you boot up swap will be turned on on that partition.
[10:06] <ardchoille> !mysql > apeman2020
[10:06] <[Jonne] > hi, i'm looking for some kind of calendar (preferably a way to change the dialog you get when you click the date, so you can add tasks and events)
[10:06] <[Jonne] > any solutions for that?
[10:06] <ardchoille> apeman2020: that might help put you on the right track
[10:06] <thundr> [Jonne] , something like evolution?  Or not that big?
[10:07] <[Jonne] > I'd prefer to use Thunderbird for managing e-mail, so using evolution for calendar stuff isn't something i want to do
[10:07] <[Jonne] > is there a small app that does the same?
[10:08] <rexykik> google calander :)
[10:08] <userundefine> [Jonne] , use the calendar extension for thunderbird.  it's beta, but quite usable.
[10:08] <[Jonne] > does it integrate with that gnome calendar?
[10:08] <userundefine> [Jonne] , no
[10:08] <[Jonne] > but evolution does?
[10:08] <userundefine> [Jonne] , if you mean integrate thunderbird extension with gnome calendar, no.  I don't know about google calendar
[10:09] <arooni> userundefine: so now i have /dev/sbd1 none            swap    sw              0       0 ... is that right?
[10:09] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[10:09] <userundefine> arooni, right
[10:09] <Madpilot> [Jonne] , AFAIK only the Evo calendar ingetgrates with Gnome's dropdown calendar - which is too bad
[10:09] <arooni> userundefine: ok cool i will restart now, hopefully it wont be so slow nemore
[10:10] <arooni> userundefine: how can i check that linux is using that partition for swap like i think it will be
[10:11] <userundefine> arooni, it's in fstab, and when ubuntu boots it reads the devices from that file.  it'll be using it because you put it in there.
[10:11] <arooni> ok cool
[10:11] <arooni> ill be back in a few
[10:11] <arooni> userundefine: thanks for helping your local noob
[10:12] <dyn-afk> :P
[10:12] <userundefine> arooni, we're all noobs. ;)  and myself, one who needs sleep.
[10:13] <Krpano> does anyone here have their side mouse buttons working ?
[10:13] <snoops> Krpano yes..
[10:14] <Krpano> how did you do it ?
[10:14] <deeghetal> how do i install unrar. i've followed the instructions in the ubuntu documentation and it doesn't work./
[10:14] <Krpano> once some user here gave a 2 line tip to insert at the xorg.conf , that just did the trick
[10:14] <deeghetal> brian@blacklab:~$ sudo apt-get install rar
[10:14] <deeghetal> Reading package lists... Done
[10:14] <deeghetal> Building dependency tree... 0%
[10:14] <deeghetal> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:14] <deeghetal> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:14] <deeghetal> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:15] <Krpano> but i cant remember
[10:15] <deeghetal> is only available from another source
[10:15] <deeghetal> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[10:15] <ardchoille> !paste
[10:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:15] <dnel> unrar?
[10:15] <deeghetal> don't worry if this problem is solved i will never have to use Linux again.
[10:16] <deeghetal> unrar will not install. i've tried. i got the text above when i did so.
[10:16] <dnel> deeghetal: the package is called unrar, you put "rar" in that command
[10:17] <deeghetal> "package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source."
[10:17] <Madpilot> deeghetal, unrar is in Multiverse. You need to enable that repository
[10:17] <dnel> deeghetal: as Madpilot said...
[10:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell deeghetal about multiverse
[10:18] <deeghetal> i know how to do it one sec
[10:19] <nikin> !multiverse
[10:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:20] <firstknight> any video conference software beside ekiga?
[10:20] <dxdemetriou> What program can I use to write cd/dvd from command line and to not be multisession?
[10:21] <deeghetal> after enabling multiverse i get the same error
[10:22] <sampi> re
[10:22] <sampi> who can help me with simple user management?
[10:22] <deeghetal> anyone know where i can download the unrar source and manually install it
[10:22] <nikin> hy sampi
[10:22] <sampi> hi nikin
[10:22] <sampi> i want to add some users to a user group
[10:23] <apeman2020> how can i see if MYSQL and PHP are working on my box?
[10:23] <meti> ok
[10:23] <sampi> what is the corresponding command?
[10:24] <firstknight> deeghetal, http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm
[10:24] <sampi> nikin, i'm not registered, so no pm, but yes, i am =D
[10:24] <fivre> quick estimate anyone: how long will it take to compile 10MB worth of source on a 266MHz PII?
[10:24] <htv8> doesn't work :S
[10:25] <htv8> the CD burning process
[10:25] <htv8> of the image :(
[10:25] <sampi> so, how can i add users to a group?
[10:25] <sampi> what is the command for it?
[10:25] <fivre> adduser
[10:25] <pedda> I've just installed a Ubuntu LAMP (server), how do I setup phpmyadmin to work?
[10:25] <vigilante_> Cany someone direct me to help with setting up auto-identify in Konversation for freenode?
[10:25] <pedda> Is there a howto?
[10:26] <sampi> nikin: do you have msn, if yes, tell me your address in pm
[10:26] <deeghetal> ok i've downloaded unrar source now how do i compile and install it. ;)
[10:27] <firstknight> try this: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[10:27] <firstknight> after unpacking it of course
[10:27] <fivre> and watch the stream of happy compiler spam!
[10:28] <lillpelle> hopefully it is not packed with rar :)
[10:28] <deeghetal> there is no ./configure
[10:28] <lillpelle> deeghetal: usually there is a file README or INSTALL with instructions
[10:28] <fivre> are you in the directory you untarred it to?
[10:28] <deeghetal> yes
[10:28] <htv8> can I install ubuntu without a CD? is that possible? for example via shared USB?
[10:29] <htv8> (network)?
[10:29] <fivre> yes
[10:29] <lillpelle> deeghetal: still it is very strange that it did not work to install it from the repository... Before compiling yourself I'd recommend to download the deb package for unrar and install it manually.
[10:29] <ruxpin> what's the best place to put scripts that should run after logging in via xdm?
[10:29] <fivre> I don't know particularly how
[10:29] <htv8> how to do that?
[10:30] <deeghetal> lillpelle i don't know how to do that. i tried getting it from the repository... enabled everything on the list... and it says that the file was referenced by other packages that were not found.
[10:30] <sampi> i have to go
[10:30] <sampi> figured it out myself
[10:31] <sampi> thanks anyway
[10:31] <sampi> bye
[10:31] <lillpelle> deeghetal: what was that other package?
[10:31] <deeghetal> i don't know here's what it says: "Package Unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[10:32] <sehute> htv8: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[10:32] <brotakul> hi. i have both ubuntu and windows xp installed on my hdd, in separate partitions. i installed QEMU and i would like to run my windows xp under QEMU without reinstalling it. how do i do it?
[10:33] <deeghetal> at this point i am willing to do anything to get unrar to install i'm at the last step of something i've been trying to do for almost a month.
[10:33] <lillpelle> deeghetal: oh, that should not be hard. are you running dapper?
[10:33] <deeghetal> yes on an x86_64 which apparently complicates everything.
[10:33] <deeghetal> i'm having trouble finding packages made for 64 bit
[10:34] <lillpelle> aha, that may be the problem then
[10:34] <Krpano> yay, it works.....:P
[10:34] <deeghetal> i have no doubt that it is.
[10:34] <deeghetal> i have a file that i need to unrar and burn to dvd.
[10:36] <firstknight> deeghetal, I am compiling unrar source now
[10:36] <lillpelle> deeghetal: sorry, but I can't help. Have to run to a train now aswell. Hope someone else can find a solution
[10:36] <firstknight> deeghetal, You have to "mv makefile.unix Makefile" then "make"
[10:36] <deeghetal> ok
[10:37] <deeghetal> hmm "makefile.unix no such file or directory"
[10:37] <firstknight> deeghetal, yeah, it works, the binary is in that directory, just "./unrar"
[10:37] <firstknight> deeghetal, copy that to /usr/bin so you can unrar everywhere
[10:38] <kameronk> is there a way to start ubuntu without a window manager? (such as xfce, gnome, or kde)?
[10:39] <sehute> kameron: do you wish to remove the windowmanager as well? sudo aptitude remove gdm xdm kdm
[10:39] <rexykik> you can select "console login" at your login manager
[10:39] <kameronk> thank you rexykik
[10:39] <deeghetal> firstknight: copy what?
[10:39] <deeghetal> i can't compile anything
[10:39] <kameronk> no sehute, i just wanted terminal only, but sehute answered my question
[10:40] <firstknight> deeghetal, what's wrong?
[10:40] <firstknight> deeghetal, copy the binary "unrar"
[10:40] <firstknight> deeghetal, or you can run from that directory
[10:40] <sehute> kameronk: removing gdm xdm and kdm will give you terminal only at bootup
[10:40] <deeghetal> there is no unrar binary in this folder
[10:40] <Krpano> what is the best way to browse ext2 partitions from windows ?
[10:41] <firstknight> deeghetal, have you compile it?
[10:41] <sehute> Krpano: ext2fsd.sf.net
[10:41] <deeghetal> no, i can't compile it. the command you told me to run did not work
[10:41] <Krpano> sehute, thx
[10:41] <firstknight> deeghetal, which one?
[10:41] <sehute> Krpano: yw
[10:41] <deeghetal> firstknight: here's what happened... "sudo mv makefile.unix Makefile" ... "makefile.unix: no such file or directory"
[10:41] <kameronk> no sehute, i still want to use it kde/gnome/xfce on a day to day basis, but i wanted just the terminal just to see if i could survive and to hone my terminal skills
[10:42] <emilio> que hay compaeros que tal estais yo bien
[10:42] <ardchoille> !es
[10:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:42] <sehute> kameronk: login via gdm with safe mode or press ctrl+alt+f1. Glad you got your question answered anyways :)
[10:42] <phanter> sehute: this tool works fine, but I do _think_ that it screwed my ext3 filesystem once (basicly the same as ext2). So do not try to use it often, just in case of emergency
[10:42] <firstknight> deeghetal,  have you been inside the directory?
[10:42] <deeghetal> yes i am in /home/unrar
[10:43] <sehute> phanter: I've discovered that it works fine if it's installed as a service, but stops working if it's installed as a program. Otherwise, it's worked great for me. Thanks for the warning, though
[10:43] <emilio> Yo me llamo luis garcia Melano
[10:43] <firstknight> deeghetal, try to "ls makefile.*"
[10:43] <firstknight> deeghetal, what do you get?
[10:44] <kameronk> sehute, how do i do it in KDM? that's what i have installed, if it's easier, i don't mind installing GDM
[10:44] <deeghetal> firstknight: makefile.bcc, makefile.cygmin, makefile.dmc, makefile.msc
[10:44] <firstknight> deeghetal, you unpack it in /home directory?
[10:44] <deeghetal> firstknight: yes
[10:45] <sehute> kameronk: I'm not sure how you do it in Kdm. I think Gdm is wonderful compared to Kdm, though, and it's painless to change between them. :)
[10:45] <firstknight> deeghetal, next time don't unpack there.... you got it from this right: http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.6.7.tar.gz?
[10:45] <kameronk> sehute, how do i change? (i'm sorry, its not everyday that i change my login manager ;) )
[10:45] <pedda> When logging on to my MySQL database for the first time, what's the default password?
[10:45] <sehute> kameronk: sudo aptitude install gdm, select gdm when asked, restart x (ctrl+alt+backspace, for instance)
[10:45] <kameronk> thank you.
[10:46] <sehute> kameronk: yw :)
[10:46] <deeghetal> firstknight: yes. i got the 64-bit version
[10:46] <firstknight> deeghetal, try to download it again..... I knew you have 64 bit version, that's why you have to install from source, I got mine working
[10:46] <firstknight> deeghetal, wget http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.6.7.tar.gz
[10:47] <deeghetal> where should i extract it to
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, /tmp directory
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, cd /tmp; wget http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.6.7.tar.gz
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, tar -zxvf unrar*.tar.gz; cd unrar/
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, mv makefile.unix Makefile; make
[10:47] <firstknight> deeghetal, no need to sudo
[10:48] <J-_> where can i get applets for gdesklets?
[10:48] <deeghetal> firstknight: "bash: make: command not found
[10:48] <sehute> J-_: apt-cache search applets | grep -i gdesklets
[10:48] <deeghetal> "makefile.unix: no such file or directory:
[10:49] <sehute> J-_: (install gdesklets-data)
[10:49] <firstknight> deeghetal,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:49] <deeghetal> ok
[10:49] <J-_> okay, thanks. I have downloaded gdesklets-data
[10:50] <alleyoopster> good morning (well it is here)
[10:50] <deeghetal> firstknight: now it is working. strange... i would have thought ubuntu came with make
[10:51] <firstknight> deeghetal, you can compile them with success now?
[10:51] <firstknight> deeghetal, is there unrar binary in the directory?
[10:51] <pedda> What's the packacge name of vsftpd, for ubuntu?
[10:51] <deeghetal> firstknight: yes
[10:51] <sehute> deeghetal: why should people who only need a basic system have make included, especially when it's so easy to install?
[10:51] <firstknight> deeghetal, good, don't forget to copy the binary to /usr/bin so you can unrar everywhere
[10:52] <FramedRelay> ola!
[10:52] <alleyoopster> After some updates and a reboot I have lost my gnome logon screen. In its place I have XDMCP logon remote and I cannot find a way to get round it. I did not install XDMCP. I can ctrl-alt-f1 OK. How do I get round this? thanks
[10:53] <deeghetal> firstknight: what's the terminal command to copy? i'm really new :)
[10:53] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo aptitude install gdm; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:53] <firstknight> deeghetal, cp unrar /usr/bin
[10:53] <Zyfo> Where *should* I install programs if I do it manually? If've got a tar.gz file, where should I go in order for it to be installed like "any other program"
[10:54] <sehute> Zyfo: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[10:54] <sehute> Zyfo: that will install it where the author thinks it's right :)
[10:54] <sehute> Zyfo: otherwise /usr/local or your homedir are two possibilities
[10:54] <ardchoille> Zyfo: Have you checked to see if that app is in the repos before you do all the work of compiling?
[10:54] <Zyfo> sehute: I'm installing easyubuntu and last time I did it it got into my home dir for some reason
[10:55] <Flannel> Zyfo: depends on who you want to install it for
[10:55] <chrom> is there anyone willing to answer a simple question? I'd like to have the default xfce settings in ubuntu. How do I get rid of the xubuntu settings?
[10:55] <sehute> Zyfo: there's also a way to wrap up some tgzs into debs, and then install them
[10:55] <Zyfo> Flannel: all/me, same thing :p
[10:55] <alleyoopster> sehute: "gdm is already the newest version " is returned
[10:55] <Zyfo> Where would you install Easyubuntu (if you would use it)?
[10:56] <sehute> alleyoopster: how about: sudo aptitude reinstall gdm; /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:56] <deeghetal> firstknight: awesome thanks! i think it's working
[10:56] <firstknight> deeghetal, okay :)
[10:56] <sehute> Zyfo: last time I used Easyubuntu, I extracted it to my homedir, used it, and removed it from my homedir
[10:57] <alleyoopster> sehute: Nope, it reinstalled ok and restarted X, but the same screen is there
[10:57] <Zyfo> sehute: ah, so it's free to remove?
[10:57] <Zyfo> sehute: I see, no problem then, thanks
[10:57] <sehute> Zyfo: yes, I think so. Easyubuntu is basically a script that helps you to install stuff
[10:57] <sehute> Zyfo: yep :)
[10:58] <sehute> alleyoopster: hm. Have you changed xorg.conf a lot?
[10:58] <alleyoopster> not really, it was a clean install yesterday
[10:58] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangeness
[10:58] <alleyoopster> it was running for 1 year before
[10:58] <sehute> alleyoopster: you could try reinstalling xorg as well...
[10:59] <alleyoopster> sehute: it is weird
[10:59] <sehute> alleyoopster: or removing xdm and kdm
[10:59] <sehute> alleyoopster: it sounds very weird indeed
[10:59] <kameronk> thank you sehute, i found another way to do it... i just pressed ctrl-alt-F1, and then i had a terminal
[10:59] <sehute> alleyoopster: when did this happen? Was there something that triggered it?
[11:00] <sehute> kameronk: <sehute> kameronk: login via gdm with safe mode or press ctrl+alt+f1. Glad you got your question answered anyways :)
[11:00] <sehute> kameronk: told you so far up there :)
[11:00] <sehute> kameronk: but yw
[11:00] <Zyfo> !aptitude
[11:00] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:00] <alleyoopster> sehute: well, the events are problem with permissions, could not rebuild them, so went to reinstall. install all good, massive update and I also installed codecs and other stuff from scripts, this maybe the key
[11:01] <kameronk> o oh, i'm sorry
[11:01] <sehute> kameronk: no stress, glad you found a solution
[11:01] <kameronk> i'm stupid and don't read...
[11:03] <sehute> alleyoopster: I didn't quite follow there, but if you've found the key, great
[11:03] <deeghetal> perfect it's password protected and i don't know the pass. :P
[11:03] <deeghetal> all that work for nothing
[11:04] <alleyoopster> sehute: just that I the problem occured following a new install - it was either auto updates or an install script to install some basic programs and codecs
[11:05] <wthww> how do i enable make?
[11:06] <firstknight> wthww, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:06] <wthww> ty
[11:08] <firstknight> deeghetal, you can use rar password cracker which unfortunately does not available in linux ( as long as I know )
[11:08] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:08] <sehute> alleyoopster: does that work?
[11:10] <alleyoopster> sehute: no, do you know what config file controls what x loads ?
[11:10] <alleyoopster> sehute: not xorg.conf
[11:11] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you type "startx", does it work?
[11:11] <alleyoopster> sehute: I have tried reconfiguring xserver
[11:11] <sehute> alleyoopster: you've only got the login-manager configuration, x configuration and the windowmanager configuration, afaik
[11:12] <sehute> alleyoopster: gdm.conf, xorg.conf and .fvwm2rc, for instance
[11:12] <alleyoopster> sehute: hang on, just did a gdm stop and startx and looking better, will try a restart
[11:12] <sehute> alleyoopster: sometimes, gdm must be restarted by /etc/init.d/gdm stop and /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:13] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangely enough
[11:13] <sehute> alleyoopster: you could also try ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:14] <gnoshi> Hi all - if I have made changes to my /boot/menu.lst and want to update my boot menu to include them, is the correct command grub-install /dev/hda?
[11:14] <sehute> gnoshi: if you change menu.lst, that's all you need
[11:14] <alleyoopster> sehute: did a number of x restarts with ctrl+alt+backspace and gdm restart and they just didnt do it, but gdm stop worked, but now after reboot I back there again.
[11:14] <gnoshi> sehute: thanks
[11:14] <sehute> gnoshi: yw
[11:14] <kaning> i have a problem with mysql, when i try to get into the console or connect to it. i get a "can't find mysql.sock" error. I've looked in /tmp/ and /etc directories and all the "default" paths but i can't find mysql socket, what am i doing wrong?
[11:15] <gnoshi> Part Magic baked my main linux part, so I had to reinstall a NEW linux to locate the OLD linux, now I want to boot back into it - it is all very exciting, and gpart is my god
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: back where? Did gdm start up? what do you see?
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: another solution might be to try installing xdm
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo aptitude remove gdm kdm; sudo aptitude install xdm
[11:15] <sehute> alleyoopster: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start
[11:16] <gnoshi> bye
[11:16] <alleyoopster> sehute: yes gdm starts when I gdm stop, logon again on session 2 and startx, when I reboot I am back to the remote logon again
[11:16] <kaning> anyone use mysql here?
[11:16] <sehute> alleyoopster: perhaps you've installed another loginmanager in addition to gdm/kdm/xdm ?
[11:17] <Rondom> kaning: 'I use mysql
[11:17] <santos92> hola
[11:17] <ompaul> !es
[11:17] <kaning> thanks
[11:17] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:17] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you find no other solution, try making a backup of xorg.conf, purge xorg from your system, delete all xorg and gdm configuration, install xorg and gdm, restore xorg.conf, then restart gdm
[11:18] <kaning> have you ever got the mysql.sock error before
[11:18] <Rondom> kaning: ?????
[11:18] <longwave> kaning: what are you trying to do when you get the error?
[11:18] <Rondom> kaning: no :-(
[11:18] <alleyoopster> sehute: it is possible, but i looked at the script and there is no mention of another logon manager. http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/install.html
[11:18] <kaning> whenever i try starting mysql it cannot locate the mysql.sock
[11:19] <darth_gimp> Anyone know anything about a program called TetraDraw?
[11:19] <longwave> kaning: does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist?
[11:19] <wheelswitch> any one know how to use ftp to get everything on my webspace ie | ftp> mget -R * /home/user/backup/
[11:19] <wheelswitch> is how im trying to do it
[11:19] <wheelswitch> but it isnt working
[11:19] <kaning> i looked and no it doesn't
[11:19] <sehute> alleyoopster: well, obviously something's not right, and the method I mentioned should fix it, even though it's like killing a fly with an encyclopedia
[11:19] <kaning> but it was working fine before
[11:19] <kaning> i don't know where it went
[11:20] <kaning> is there a way of replacing it
[11:20] <Rondom> kaning: where does mysql look for this file?
[11:20] <kaning> is there somewhere i can download it from
[11:20] <sehute> wheelswitch: how about scp -r /home/user/backup/ username@host:target_directory
[11:20] <dooglus> wheelswitch: can you 'scp' instead?
[11:20] <alleyoopster> sehute: whats the best way of purging the config for x?
[11:20] <kaning> as i understand it mysql creates it when it starts
[11:21] <dooglus> wheelswitch: be careful with sehute's command - that will overwrite your website with your backup
[11:21] <sehute> dooglus: thanks for the warning
[11:21] <kaning> "/var/run/mysqld"
[11:21] <sehute> wheelswitch: if you give it a sensible target_directory, it will _not_ overwrite anything
[11:21] <longwave> wheelswitch: if you have to use standard ftp, the "ftp" program doesn't have a recursive copy command, but the "lftp" package does if you use the "mirror" command
[11:21] <Rondom> kaning: btw mysqld.sock
[11:21] <pppoe_dude> hi... a bit OT, but anyone know if IP's are logged when posting to USENET?
[11:22] <Rondom> kaning: try stopping mysql, deleting the file and restartign
[11:22] <dooglus> wheelswitch: he is wanting to download from his website, not upload to it
[11:22] <kaning> the problem here is that the file doesn't even exist to delete it
[11:22] <sehute> wheelswitch: do you wish to upload or download from your webpage?
[11:22] <wheelswitch> download
[11:22] <kaning> it's just not there. Which i find very wierd
[11:23] <Rondom> go ro /var/run/mysqld
[11:23] <sehute> wheelswitch: scp -r username@host:directory local_directory
[11:23] <Rondom> ro=to
[11:23] <kaning> aha
[11:23] <Rondom> and do a touch mysqld.sock
[11:23] <Zyfo> http://rafb.net/paste/results/niByGe92.html <- What should I do to fix this? when I try to install the packages mentioned it just keeps saying that I've got unmet dependencies.
[11:23] <lecurel> anyone knows how to install postfix-tls?????
[11:23] <sehute> alleyoopster: aptitude purge xorg, I think
[11:23] <Rondom> kaning: after that set the permissions
[11:23] <longwave> Rondom: no, the mysqld.sock file is not a standard file, it's a special socket file that mysql creates when it starts
[11:23] <phanter> hmm, i am trying to install kqemu in dapper. i use the automated script,  but it fails in the final stge with the folowing command: cp: cannot stat `kqemu/kqemu.ko': No such file or directory
[11:23] <phanter> FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format
[11:23] <longwave> kaning: does the mysql user have write permissions on /var/run/mysqld?
[11:24] <Rondom> longwave: yes, but maybe the permissions are wrong
[11:24] <sehute> alleyoopster: you should be aware that this will also remove packages that depend on X
[11:24] <gnoshi> Hurrah! The old partition works, despite partition magic having deleted it!
[11:24] <kaning> i should think so let me check
[11:24] <kaning> but even with that i have run it with sudo
[11:24] <lecurel> is there someone expert in postfix?
[11:24] <kaning> and still got the same problem
[11:24] <Adam02> mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[11:24] <Adam02> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-hdb1
[11:25] <dooglus> Adam02: be careful mounting things in /tmp; ubuntu likes to empty /tmp and everything mounted on it when it boots
[11:25] <sehute> Adam02: is umount /tmp/disk-conf-hdb1; mount /media/windows perhaps what you want to do?
[11:25] <Adam02> ju jestr zamonontowane
[11:26] <Zyfo> http://rafb.net/paste/results/niByGe92.html <- What can I do to fix this?
[11:26] <sehute> Adam02: je parle ne pas franc, if that was french
[11:26] <kaning> i'm looking at the directory permissions right now and it says file owner is mysql -  mysql server
[11:26] <alleyoopster> sehute: aptitude purge xserver-xorg
[11:26] <sehute> alleyoopster: that should be it yes. As I said, it's a crude method, but it should work :)
[11:27] <Adam02> jak zmieni upranienia ebym mg wej /tmp/disks-conf-hdb1
[11:27] <sehute> Adam02: polish?
[11:27] <Adam02> nie tylko z poziomu roota
[11:27] <Madpilot> !pl
[11:27] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:28] <kaning> any ideas anyone?
[11:28] <longwave> kaning: can you paste the exact error message in a pastebin for me?
[11:29] <alleyoopster> sehute: absolutely bizare - still the same problem
[11:29] <kaning> ok give me a minute
[11:29] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangeness
[11:29] <sehute> alleyoopster: and you reinstalled xorg-server after purging it, and then gdm as well?
[11:30] <alleyoopster> sehute: didnt do gdm, will try that, I am sure there must be a file controlling logon managers
[11:30] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you look in /etc/init.d - is there something there that looks like it doesn't belong?
[11:31] <[knap] > whats is the location of the configuration files of the shortcuts in the upper bar, those in ''Applications'' ''System'' menus
[11:31] <Azzco> does anyone happen to know where login manager files are located?
[11:31] <kameronk> what's a good vnc server for ubuntu? (i've run them on windows, i just haven't on linux)
[11:31] <sehute> alleyoopster: XDMCP or something?
[11:31] <sehute> alleyoopster: cd /etc/init.d; grep -i "xdmcp" *
[11:32] <zcat[1] > solved it.
[11:32] <zcat[1] > now I guess I should wiki it.
[11:32] <sehute> alleyoopster: did you try to purge gdm as well, then install it?
[11:34] <sehute> alleyoopster: if you purge both xorg and gdm, make sure no other login-manager is installed (xdm, kdm, something with xdmcp), manually delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and gdm.conf, then reinstall gdm and restore your xorg.conf, it should work
[11:34] <sehute> alleyoopster: if it doesn't work then - then there's something wrong with the world
[11:34] <basvg> can anyone help me setup my mic in dapper? I have my headset (with microphone) plugged in but can't get it to work (trying to record something with gnome-sound-recorder)
[11:34] <sehute> basvg: I've experienced trouble with that too, I'm very interested if you find the solution
[11:35] <samuel_> ubuntu-it
[11:35] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[11:35] <alleyoopster> sehute: well i already came to the conclusion that something is wrong with the world
[11:35] <basvg> sehute: I'll let you know if I find a fix.. I've fiddled with gnome-alsamixer to see if something was muted but that wasn't the case
[11:35] <sehute> samuel_: /j #ubuntu-it
[11:35] <samuel_> #kubuntu-it
[11:35] <sehute> alleyoopster: strangeness. I'm afraid you've reached the end of my knowledge here. :-/ Hope you find a solution.
[11:35] <samuel_> speak italien?
[11:36] <SimGuy> let's say I am disappointed by xscreensaver's small selection of hacks... am I going to have to build it myself if I want the rest of them?
[11:36] <sehute> basvg: tried uninstalling arts and installing esound as well?
[11:36] <alleyoopster> sehute: well thanks for your input, i do apprieciate it
[11:36] <sehute> alleyoopster: happy to almost help :P :D
[11:36] <basvg> sehute: I'm not in kubuntu... arts isn't running here :)
[11:36] <alleyoopster> sehute:and it is WORKING now
[11:36] <sehute> alleyoopster: great! :)
[11:36] <sehute> alleyoopster: what was the fix?
[11:37] <alleyoopster> sehute:purging gdm
[11:37] <sehute> alleyoopster: I knew it! ;)
[11:37] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[11:37] <sehute> basvg: does the alsa commandline recording utility work?
[11:37] <alleyoopster> sehute: thanks, not sure how i got into this state, very strange, but thanks again,
[11:37] <Remy> !bluetooth
[11:37] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:37] <basvg> sehute: errr, which utility is that
[11:38] <samuel_> #ubuntu-it
[11:38] <Nikoladze> can anyone help me, I'm having trouble setting permissions for a vfat partition in fstab
[11:38] <sehute> basvg: qarecord, for instance
[11:38] <sehute> alleyoopster: :-) *happy*
[11:38] <Nikoladze> it keeps mounting it with the owner and group as root even though I specified uid and gid both as 1000
[11:38] <samuel_> italien?
[11:38] <basvg> sehute: installing it...
[11:38] <samuel_> speak italien?
[11:38] <longwave> !italian
[11:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about italian - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:38] <longwave> !it
[11:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:38] <Madpilot> !it
[11:39] <alleyoopster>  :)
[11:39] <[knap] > whats is the location of the configuration files of the shortcuts in the upper bar? those in ''Applications'' ''System'' menus
[11:40] <sehute> [knap] : it varies from windowmanager to windowmanager - and they all have their own tool to edit menues
[11:40] <orbin> [knap] : what are you planning on doing?
[11:40] <[knap] > ok in this case is gnome with metacity
[11:41] <sehute> [knap] : the system-wide menu-file-defaults for fvwm is stored in /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
[11:41] <sehute> [knap] : there should be a menu-editor on your menu somewhere, I think?
[11:41] <sehute> [knap] : or do you need the exact filename(s)?
[11:42] <[knap] > i have alacarte
[11:42] <shinobi3> how do i check the chip set for my wireless card? i know it's atheros, but can i get more specific details? like which series
[11:42] <sehute> [knap] : alacarte should work
[11:42] <[knap] > ok
[11:42] <sehute> shinobi3: Is it pci? lspci
[11:42] <sehute> shinobi3: Is it usb? lsusb
[11:43] <sehute> shinobi3: Is it detected by the kernel? dmesg
[11:43] <shinobi3> sehute: internal built-in
[11:43] <sehute> shinobi3: internal hardware usually shows up with lspci
[11:43] <Zyfo> I get the following when installing Audacious: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oSv3wF64.html what should I do?
[11:43] <htv8> if I want to install ubuntu, what iso file do i have to download? http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:43] <sehute> shinobi3: you've also got the /proc directory
[11:43] <shinobi3> sehute: dmesg is like of long, don't know what i am looking at, but lspci shows atheros.
[11:44] <kaning> here's what the error looks like
[11:44] <kaning> http://pastebin.ca/108144
[11:44] <sehute> shinobi3: press alt+f2, type dmesg | gvim -
[11:44] <longwave> htv8: the "Desktop" cd for your computer (pc, mac or 64-bit pc)
[11:44] <basvg> sehute: right, qarecord works
[11:44] <htv8> if you download the desktop CD (so you can try ubuntu without installing), can you still install with the same .iso afterwards?
[11:44] <sehute> basvg: great
[11:44] <longwave> htv8: yes, you can :)
[11:44] <Madpilot> htv8, you can install right from the LiveCD session
[11:44] <sehute> basvg: then you know it works under alsa, at least
[11:44] <htv8> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:44] <sehute> basvg: do you have alsa-oss installed? that might help too
[11:44] <htv8> and is this in Dutch? the software?
[11:44] <htv8> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[11:44] <longwave> htv8: it will have a language selection screen when you first start up
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> I have a Compaq Presario Laptop, and to the best of my knowledge, it has an ATI Rage Mobility 128 video card with 8 megs of VRAM. How do I find out if Ubuntu works with my video card?
[11:45] <htv8> cool thank you
[11:45] <basvg> sehute: sehute jeah, I have that installed
[11:45] <sehute> DJAdmiral: google
[11:45] <DJAdmiral> sehute: thank you, i'll try that now
[11:46] <sehute> DJAdmiral: yw (I think it works with Ubuntu, as far as I can recall)
[11:46] <GaiaX11> Which is the program for formatting diskettes in ubuntu?
[11:46] <shinobi3> sehute: i am currently running windows, if i see atheros in dmesg, what's my next step?
[11:46] <sehute> basvg: sounds like the perprerator, yes
[11:46] <htv8> so I burn a CD, reboot my computer with the CD and then I can decide to make a new partition for ubuntu?
[11:46] <basvg> sehute: well, skype also doesn't work (i.e., the other party can't hear me)
[11:47] <orbin> DJAdmiral: lol, for something more specific, try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport .. you should be fine though.  i'm runnign a presario now
[11:47] <sehute> shinobi3: if you see atheros in dmesg or lspci, you should also see the name of the chipset
[11:47] <longwave> htv8: yes, but it is recommended you back up your windows (or whatever) partition first
[11:47] <sehute> basvg: I've experienced that too. It sucks :)
[11:47] <DJAdmiral> orbin: i'm checking out that link now
[11:47] <peabody> hmmm, I got compiz working but I've got a problem.
[11:47] <shinobi3> sehute: ok thx
[11:47] <peabody> I've followed these directions
[11:47] <Madpilot> htv8, when you're running the liveCD, there's an "Install" icon on the desktop; that will do the install - including partitioning- for you
[11:47] <peabody> http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[11:47] <frogzoo> htv8: what file system is your doze on - ntfs or fat32?
[11:48] <sehute> shinobi3: yw :)
[11:48] <peabody> And it works, but what's weird is that I have to run the startcompiz script several times for compiz to start
[11:48] <stefg> peabody: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:48] <peabody> stefg: thanks, sorry
[11:48] <shinobi3> i tried to compile, gcc hello.c ; but did not compile.  do i need to link gcc with stdio.h library somewhere?  i just installed gcc.
[11:48] <sehute> peabody: try a different tutorial :)
[11:48] <GaiaX11> Hi, Which is the program for formatting diskettes in ubuntu?
[11:48] <sehute> peabody: (worked for me)
[11:48] <Flannel> !build-essential
[11:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:49] <Flannel> shinobi3: you need that
[11:49] <stefg> !build > shinobi3
[11:49] <htv8> NTFS file system
[11:49] <dibblego> is there an application that will extract a rar archive created by WinRAR on Windows?
[11:49] <longwave> kaning: what does "netstat -al | grep mysql" show? do you see the word LISTENING next to the socket filename?
[11:49] <Th3man> speaking of Compiz, does anyone know of a good howto for it as it relates to the Intel Video Cards?
[11:49] <sehute> GaiaX11: mkfs.ext3
[11:49] <darth_gimp> Can someone school me in the use of dosbox ??
[11:49] <ompaul> shinobi3, two things to make it worth your while install build essential ^^ and secondly the command is gcc foo.c -o foo then foo is the executable
[11:49] <sehute> darth_gimp: I can
[11:49] <sehute> darth_gimp: sudo aptitude install dosbox
[11:49] <darth_gimp> sehute that would be awsome
[11:49] <spring> anyone use buildix here?
[11:49] <gatekeeper> dibblego, yes unrar I think it's called
[11:50] <stefg> Th3man: you're asking for #ubuntu-xgl and a /lot/ of trouble
[11:50] <darth_gimp> I just installed it through synaptic
[11:50] <DJAdmiral> darth_gimp: do you want to know how to use it or install it?
[11:50] <frogzoo> htv8: there's a serious bug in gparted that if you use it to resize your ntfs partition, you could lose all your data - definately backup first, & maybe use a different utility to resize the partition - eg. partition magic etc.
[11:50] <sehute> darth_gimp: press alt+f2 type gnome-terminal
[11:50] <longwave> dibblego: either the "rar" or "unrar" packages will help
[11:50] <darth_gimp> DJAdmiral, use it
[11:50] <dibblego> gatekeeper, ok thanks
[11:50] <DJAdmiral> darth_gimp: i can help you out too.
[11:50] <sehute> darth_gimp: cd dosdir (I assume dosdir is the name of your directory with dos-stuff)
[11:50] <GaiaX11> sehute: Is there a gui for that. Because apart from formatting I'd like to prepare the disk to write on it.
[11:50] <spring> after i boot with buiildix disk, enter username and password, i am left in console, can't get into GUI, HELP!
[11:50] <gatekeeper> dibblego, have you got synaptic installed?
[11:50] <htv8> what :|
[11:50] <htv8> that's a lot of work :|
[11:50] <sehute> darth_gimp: dosbox -c "mount c ." -c "c:"
[11:51] <dibblego> gatekeeper, yes
[11:51] <darth_gimp> ok maybe one of you can pull me into a PM so I can follow...
[11:51] <shinobi3> stefg: thx
[11:51] <sehute> darth_gimp: then type the first name of the exe/com/bat you're about to start. For instance "dune" if the filename is "dune.exe"
[11:51] <gatekeeper> dibblego, just do a search for it then
[11:51] <wthww> um... does ubuntu run well on cyrix processors?
[11:51] <dibblego> gatekeeper, I am thanks
[11:51] <Flannel> spring: this is #ubuntu, buildix is... apparently an entirely dfferent operating system.
[11:51] <markj> quick question
[11:51] <gatekeeper> dibblego, yw :-)
[11:52] <Nikoladze> hey all, for some reason my vfat partition is mounting with the wrong permissions, can anyone help?
[11:52] <ripdisk> how does one go about installing a compiler on 5.0
[11:52] <sehute> darth_gimp: alt+f9 exits, alt+f7 and alt+f8 toggles cpu-speed
[11:52] <spring> Flannel: i know just pushing my luck :)
[11:52] <sehute> darth_gimp: that's it
[11:52] <DJAdmiral> sehute, darth_gimp: don't you just love dosbox?
[11:52] <sehute> darth_gimp: use pgup to scroll up
[11:52] <sehute> DJAdmiral: It's amazing. I love it :)
[11:52] <markj> i've just installed ubunto 5.4 if i let it autoupdate will it give me the latest 6.06 version?
[11:52] <spring> supposed to be easy and dummy proof
[11:52] <darth_gimp> sehute
[11:52] <darth_gimp> ok hang on there..
[11:52] <commctrl> spring, apparently not, because you're here when you should be there
[11:52] <DJAdmiral> sehute: lovely. Have you tried the other DOS Emulator though?
[11:53] <ripdisk> how does one go about installing a compiler on 5.0??
[11:53] <frogzoo> markj: no - you need to ugprade, it's a different process
[11:53] <fm> hi I have two PCs, one Ubuntu and one Windows XP, I got  cross ethernet cable, how to set up a network between the two computers?
[11:53] <stefg> markj: define 'autoprobe', see !upgrade
[11:53] <darth_gimp> sehute the program I want to run is in a folder on my desktop at the moment...
[11:53] <Zyfo> I get the following when installing Audacious: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oSv3wF64.html what can I do?
[11:53] <Flannel> ripdisk: 5.0?
[11:53] <ripdisk> yes
[11:53] <spring> there is no buildix chat room
[11:53] <DJAdmiral> !network
[11:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about network - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:53] <sehute> GaiaX11: I'm not sure. Have you searched in apt?
[11:53] <Nikoladze> markj: I think you need to replace all instances of "breezy" with "dapper" in /etc/apt/source.list
[11:53] <Flannel> ripdisk: 5.0 what?
[11:53] <commctrl> fm, you probably want samba
[11:53] <Flannel> !tell markj about upgrade
[11:53] <sehute> darth_gimp: then replace where I wrote "dosdir" with "Desktop/foldername"
[11:53] <longwave> Zyfo: have you done "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" recently?
[11:53] <commctrl> spring, "there" meaning whatever support buildix has to offer... not ubuntu
[11:53] <ripdisk> Flannel: ubuntu 5.0
[11:53] <Flannel> markj: there's an easier way, all GUI, one click, etc.  Read that link
[11:53] <spring> k
[11:53] <Flannel> ripdisk: ubuntu doesn't have a 5.0, 5.04 and 5.10
[11:53] <Zyfo> longwave: apt-get upgrade/update lots of times, never dist- tho, will try now
[11:54] <stefg> Nikoladze: 5.04 is /Hoary/!... this means Hoeary to Breezy first, tehn Breezy to Dapper... it's easier to make a fresh install IMHO
[11:54] <ripdisk> Flannel: i'm not to sure what version it is, it's not my computer
[11:54] <commctrl> spring, hidden on their site, buildix forums (stupid "HERE" links) http://buildix.thoughtworks.com/phpBB2/
[11:54] <Zyfo> have to close xchat. brb.
[11:54] <Flannel> ripdisk: alright, go to... the about page.  it should say.
[11:54] <gatekeeper> Nikoladze, install update-manager and use that
[11:54] <ripdisk> Flannel: i'm in the computer through ssh :D
[11:54] <spring> commctrl: thx i will try my luck
[11:55] <Nikoladze> stefg: I upgraded from hoary to dapper with no troubles
[11:55] <Flannel> ripdisk: ah, in that case... uname -r
[11:55] <Flannel> Nikoladze: er, directly?
[11:55] <ce3c> err... ^ohoel ?
[11:55] <frogzoo> Nikoladze: not rec'd - leapfrogging upgrades is a bad plan
[11:55] <DJAdmiral> sehute: between running SCUMM based dos games on DOSBOX and SCUMM based games in SCUMMVM, what would you go for?
[11:55] <stefg> Nikoladze: then you were lucky... 'Official' point of view is: This will break your system
[11:55] <ripdisk> Flannel: it says 2.6.12-9-386
[11:55] <fm> commctrl: actually both computers are connected to a wifi router and I have a samba server that works pretty good, but I'm interested in ssh now, and it works over wifi too.. but it is too slow, so I want to make a direct connection. I tried to manually set IPs to my interfaces (<IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>), but they dont ping each other
[11:55] <sehute> DJAdmiral: I would run Scumm based games in Scumm - it works smoother :)
[11:56] <Nikoladze> Flannel: replaced all hoary with dapper in sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:56] <Flannel> ripdisk: you have 5.10 (Breezy) then.  Now, what was your question? compilation?  you need build-essential
[11:56] <gatekeeper> stefg, you miss out a version ok? I was thinking of moving from dapper to edgy successor when it's eventually released
[11:56] <sehute> DJAdmiral: And I've tried dosemu a year or two ago. It worked okay, but not for old games and graphical applications
[11:56] <DJAdmiral> sehute: that's what I thought - what SCUMM games do you have at the mo?
[11:56] <darth_gimp> sehute, can dosbox run full screen?
[11:56] <Flannel> Nikoladze: er, wow.  Youre extremely lucky.
[11:56] <ce3c> i need help with my wireless!!!
[11:56] <sehute> darth_gimp: alt+enter
[11:56] <ripdisk> Flannel: yeah, how do i instlal a compiler, keep in mind i'm ssh'd in
[11:56] <DJAdmiral> darth_gimp: alt+enter
[11:56] <DJAdmiral> shoot too late lol
[11:56] <sehute> DJAdmiral: :)
[11:57] <darth_gimp> Excellent thanks guys
[11:57] <stefg> gatekeeper: thta's future stuf whic has to be worked out. There will be Howto's for sure when the time has come
[11:57] <DJAdmiral> np darth_gimp
[11:57] <dibblego> ripdisk, apt-get install build-essential
[11:57] <Nikoladze> Flannel: at least thats what I think I did, how can it go wrong?
[11:57] <Flannel> ripdisk: you'll need to install build-essential, 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:57] <sehute> DJAdmiral: I've got Beneath a Steel Sky and Queen of the Amazone Jungle...
[11:57] <Flannel> Nikoladze: er, it usually leaves you with an unbootable system
[11:57] <DJAdmiral> sehute: don't you mean flight of the amazon queen?
[11:57] <gatekeeper> stefg, ok :-)
[11:57] <Nikoladze> Flannel: how?
[11:57] <frogzoo> ripdisk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:57] <sehute> DJAdmiral: but I've heard rumors of a very nice torrent that includes all the games in one huge package... ;)
[11:57] <kaning> i'm going to remove and reinstall it again and see what happens
[11:57] <sehute> DJAdmiral: yeah, that one
[11:58] <DJAdmiral> sehute: torrent? i have to look now!! :P
[11:58] <DJAdmiral> sehute: i've got monkey island 2 though
[11:58] <frogzoo> Nikoladze: it's difficult enough planning an automated upgrade from the previous release, never mind all previous releases as well
[11:58] <sehute> DJAdmiral: monkey island 2 is a fantastic game, but I guess we're getting offtopic now ;)
[11:59] <muep> hi
[11:59] <Nikoladze> sehute: the ending is too weird for me
[11:59] <DJAdmiral> sehute: right then, im installing cedega atm, i need to get some more packages, eg. flex, bison
[11:59] <ripdisk> Flannel: it's asking me to put in a cd
[11:59] <sehute> Nikoladze: the ending is weird, it's true
[11:59] <Flannel> ripdisk: ah, ok.   I tried to install it yesterday... should it start X after the installation? I only get a console and I dont know how to install other packages
[12:00] <Nikoladze> does anyone know anything about mounting vfat partitions? the permissions are killing me
[12:00] <stefg> !mount
[12:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:00] <Flannel> DanielSC: What ISO did you burn?
[12:00] <sehute> DanielSC: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[12:00] <sehute> DanielSC: that is one possibility
[12:01] <ripdisk> Flannel: the deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 etc etc line?
[12:01] <DanielSC> ubuntu-6.06-server-i386.iso
[12:01] <DJAdmiral> has anybody here had any success with creating an LFS system from Dapper?
[12:01] <longwave> zyfo: dist-upgrade puts all your packages in sync with what you put in sources.list, that is why you have having problems installing other packages
[12:01] <Flannel> ripdisk: right, comment that with #
[12:01] <Dravas> uhh how do I make teh VLC player go to normal GUI?
[12:01] <frogzoo> zyfo: dist-upgrade isn't as bulletproof as it could be - but did you apt-get update/upgrade before the dist-upgrade?
[12:01] <stefg> !easysource
[12:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:01] <stefg> ^^^^recommended ^^^^
[12:01] <zyfo> frogzoo: yes, not directly before, but pretty much
[12:01] <gatekeeper> DanielSC, did you accidently do a server install?
[12:01] <Flannel> DanielSC: that's why.  You downloaded a text only, if you want a graphical system, you'll need to login, then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[12:01] <DanielSC> @sehute: thanks that's what I needed ;)
[12:01] <frogzoo> zyfo: not 'directly' before.... o.O
[12:02] <Dravas> uhh how do I make teh VLC player go to normal GUI?
[12:02] <DJAdmiral> DanielSC: the server one is not the one you want. you want either the desktop or alternate distributions
[12:02] <Flannel> ripdisk: then you'll uncomment some lines below that, or, hopefully they're there.  they look like URLs
[12:02] <ripdisk> flannel, i got it, it's downloading i think
[12:02] <sehute> DanielSC: if the gui doesn't start, type /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:02] <zyfo> longwave: it removed lots of stuff that worked perfect though The following packages will be REMOVED:  fglrx-control firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome-app-install libqt3-mt   skype sun-java5-plugin ubuntu-desktop wengophone xchat yelp The following NEW packages will be installed:   binfmt-support libmyspell3c2
[12:02] <ripdisk> flannel: yep, working
[12:02] <Flannel> sehute: he DOESNT have a GUI
[12:02] <sehute> Flannel: not at all?
[12:02] <DJAdmiral> sehute: he ended up installing the server distro
[12:02] <zyfo> frogzoo: like 5 mins earlier in another terminal
[12:02] <sehute> Flannel: not even a tiny bit?
[12:02] <sehute> ok
[12:02] <Flannel> DanielSC: no need to download a new ISO, just install the desktop
[12:02] <Nikoladze> stefg: if that !mount was intended for me, I already have it mounted, its just not mounting it with the correct permissions even though I specified umask=777
[12:02] <sehute> DanielSC: listen to Flannel :)
[12:02] <Flannel> DanielSC: with that previous command 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[12:03] <DanielSC> ok I will try to install the "ubuntu-desktop"
[12:03] <skwashd> hi all
[12:03] <sehute> Flannel: hey, that was what I told him
[12:03] <ripdisk> flannel: is this the only package i'll need to compile?
[12:03] <Flannel> ripdisk: good to hear.
[12:03] <sehute> or am I mixing people
[12:03] <zyfo> longwave: what do you suggest I do to get back the apps again (and preferly get other things working again too)? I'm not on xchat, it got removed, gaim works though. Can't install xchat now either.
[12:03] <Flannel> ripdisk: well, besides the dependencies of the individual things youre compiling, butyeah, that contains a compiler and standard headers, etc
[12:03] <gatekeeper> DanielSC, might be better getting the desktop iso and installing that
[12:04] <DanielSC> but I have another problem.. I'm using an atheros wireless card.. it seemed to be recognized during the installation but after the installation it's not recognized (the modules dont seem to be available) any way to fix this?
[12:04] <ripdisk> flannel: ok cool *installs ircd*
[12:04] <skwashd> i have an openfiler (centos based NAS appliance) server ... and [x] ubuntu clients running dapper
[12:04] <Flannel> ripdisk: err... ircd is in the repositories
[12:04] <skwashd> i have ldap working fine
[12:04] <DJAdmiral> just installed flex, i'll get back to reconfiguring Cedega. Hopefully it'lll install now
[12:04] <Dravas> uhh how do I make teh VLC player go to normal GUI?
[12:04] <skwashd> and the nfs exports mount
[12:04] <ripdisk> it's a friend of mine's box, and he wanted to link to my network
[12:04] <kevor> Hi, how can i change my computer name?
[12:04] <sehute> Flannel: I already told him to install ubuntu-desktop, then you tell me he has no gui and tell him to install ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <stefg> Nikoladze: here's a sample from my fstab:   /dev/hdc1    /media/fat32   vfat  defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46  0 0 (on line paste should be fine in here, huh?)
[12:04] <Flannel> ripdisk: why compile, when you can install from repositories?
[12:04] <DanielSC> ok, If I cant make it load the modules for my wireless card I will have to downloaded the desktop iso anyway
[12:04] <ripdisk> Flannel: they might not have the IRCD i want
[12:05] <Flannel> ripdisk: can't hurt to check
[12:05] <Dravas> heh
[12:05] <DJAdmiral> kevor: www.ubuntuguide.com has some handy article on that
[12:05] <frogzoo> zyfo: ok, so 5minutes prior is decent - so in a perfect world, the ugprade ought to have worked properly
[12:05] <Dravas> Your running an IRCd ripdisk ?
[12:05] <fm> Hi, I have two computers, A (ubuntu) and B (Win XP) that connect to a router, A over ethernet and B over wifi. I have servers running on A that I can access over wifi from B without any problem. But it is too slow. So I bought a cross cable, and connected A to B through ethernet, setting eth1 on A to <IP_ADDRESS> and I gave B's ethernet interface <IP_ADDRESS> . I can ping A from B but it pings over wifi. I can't ping B from A. How do I have
[12:05] <fm> to set up my network please?
[12:05] <DJAdmiral> kevor: i mean www.ubuntuguide.org sorry
[12:05] <Dravas> which IRCd
[12:05] <ripdisk> Flannel: i've compiled this IRCD many times
[12:05] <ripdisk> Dravas: yeah, i have a network.. this will be the third box on it
[12:05] <sehute> fm: zeroconf might solve your problem
[12:05] <gatekeeper> !wireless
[12:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:05] <Dravas> which IRCd
[12:05] <Nikoladze> stefg: does that mean you want everybody except people in group gid 46 to be able to r/w/x?
[12:05] <skwashd> the perms are variations of "drwxrws--- 96 nobody multimedia 4096 2006-06-05 21:18 /audio/" .. but the ubuntu client who are members of the multimedia group denied access any ideas?
[12:05] <ripdisk> Dravas: i run charybdis
[12:05] <zyfo> frogzoo: :D anyway, what can I do now to "restore" it? I mean, not even ffox or xchat works...
[12:05] <Dravas> ahh
[12:05] <Dravas> Unreal IRCd is better
[12:05] <skwashd> been google'n but got stock
[12:06] <Dravas> >_>
[12:06] <ripdisk> no it's not lmao
[12:06] <skwashd> s/stock/stuck
[12:06] <Dravas> Yer
[12:06] <ripdisk> i started with unreal years ago
[12:06] <Dravas> I'm running Unreal now
[12:06] <ripdisk> and then got tired of the kiddies
[12:06] <stefg> Nikoladze: that's what it says
[12:06] <ripdisk> so i switched to a hybrid-based ircd
[12:06] <frogzoo> zyfo: you don't want to hear this - but best way forward is reinstall
[12:06] <ripdisk> and besides, dravas, I know the guy who made my IRCD
[12:06] <Dravas> ahh
[12:06] <gatekeeper> fm, connect everything to your router
[12:06] <Nikoladze> stefg: k, I was just checking I've got my octal notation right
[12:07] <zyfo> frogzoo: argh again :< what went wrong? I don't see why it is removing 20 apps and stuff just cause I tried to upgrade
[12:07] <Dravas> link me to where I can get info on this IRCd
[12:07] <ripdisk> www.charybdis.be
[12:07] <DJAdmiral> hey is there any way to convert my Windows Unreal Tournament into a Linux Unreal Tournament without having to bother about Cedega?
[12:07] <zyfo> frogzoo: what's the point in that cmd if you risk losing lots of stuff? or what did I do wrong?
[12:07] <fm> gatekeeper:I can't it has only one ethernet port
[12:07] <longwave> zyfo: as you were having problems installing packages before, something was messed up before you did that dist-upgrade
[12:07] <DJAdmiral> yay Cedega is finally compiling
[12:08] <Nikoladze> DJAdmiral:  it has a proper linux client somewhere, dunno about ubuntu but I used to use gentoo and it let you install it from the windows cd
[12:08] <ZangieFF> w
[12:08] <longwave> zyfo: the dist-upgrade was intended to help but there must be something wrong in your sources.list or something...
[12:08] <DanielSC> ok, I'm downloading the desktop iso.. thanks... I downloaded the server iso by mistake 'cause the desktop iso seemed to be the Live version.. but it seems to be both. .the installation CD and a Live ubuntu CD ;) thanks guys
[12:08] <zyfo> longwave: I guess it did, I don't see what though, all I did was following what people told me/other people to write at forum, I never removed a package :|
[12:08] <J-_> anyong have a redorect problem with the starterbar for gdesklets? i've never been to the university of alberta's website, and when i click on the icon in that applet, it redirects me to their website. so when i go into the regular gnome menu, and click firefox... google pops up which it's suppose to.
[12:08] <gatekeeper> fm, you don't want to spend money?
[12:08] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: that's the trouble, i don't have the windows cd. i have the game on hard disk though with a no cd crack
[12:08] <ripdisk> flannel: culd not lcate a suitable parser generator
[12:08] <ripdisk> could*
[12:08] <Nikoladze> DJAdmiral: not warez I hope
[12:08] <zyfo> longwave: same thing happend last install, just then I tried some things on my own. What am I supposed to do next install you say? :D
[12:08] <frogzoo> zyfo: in my opinion, the dist-upgrade isn't there yet - it's great for newbs, but for people running complex services, a fresh install is best - it's just too hard for the upgrade to manage the different versionso of python, mysql etc
[12:08] <fm> gatekeeper: as few as possible...
[12:09] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: oh no far from it
[12:09] <zyfo> frogzoo: ok
[12:09] <fm> gatekeeper: it's not exactly a router, it is a modem that is a router too
[12:09] <ripdisk> Flannel: what package would i install for a parse generator
[12:09] <longwave> DanielSC: yes, the desktop cd is the live version and the installer bundled onto one cd :)
[12:09] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: installed expansion packs and patches and botpacks and maps and all that jazz
[12:09] <Flannel> ripdisk: it'd depend on whatever parser your source toolchin uses.
[12:09] <frogzoo> ripdisk: yacc?
[12:09] <ripdisk> it says bison, yacc, or byacc
[12:10] <stefg> J-_: gdesklets has a lot of issues... edit the starter in gdesklets manually and remove the start parameter for firefox, this fools firefox into seraching something (Alberta starts with an A, it's the first search hit)
[12:10] <frogzoo> ripdisk: well then I would agree
[12:10] <kevor> Can someone please help me change my computername, it can't be that hard
[12:10] <DJAdmiral> longwave: wouldn't it be more safer to use the alternate iso instead?
[12:10] <frogzoo> ripdisk: sudo apt-get install bison yacc byacc
[12:10] <ripdisk> all of them?
[12:10] <ripdisk> it only needs one
[12:10] <Nikoladze> DJAdmiral: sorry, I'm not sure you can install the linux client using a windows install (not to my knowledge anyway), I'm sure cedega will be able to run it with no troubles though if you use the opengl renderer
[12:10] <frogzoo> ripdisk: disk is cheap :D
[12:11] <DJAdmiral> Nikoladze: I suppose so.
[12:11] <frogzoo> ripdisk: i have bison installed, probly comes with build-essential - so go that one
[12:11] <DJAdmiral> kevor: one sec ill show you how
[12:11] <gatekeeper> fm, easiest way is to buy another router, and connect the two up, if you have a pc with 2 ethernet cards you can set it up as a router, not sure how
[12:12] <protocol1> how can I rename a directory from the console?
[12:12] <frogzoo> protocol1: mv dira dirb
[12:12] <protocol1> can someone give me an exampe?
[12:12] <fm> gatekeeper, ok thanx, or I could just temporarily disable the other interfaces
[12:12] <Nikoladze> stefg: can I post up the line in my fstab I'm having trouble with or can I msg you with it, from what I can see theres no apparent reason why its not working
[12:12] <protocol1> example*?
[12:12] <DJAdmiral> kevor: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_change_computer_name <--- will show you how to change your computer name
[12:12] <frogzoo> protocol1: ^^^
[12:12] <stefg> Nikoladze: better paste your complete fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:12] <kevor> thanks DJAdmiral
[12:12] <protocol1> frogzoo,thx
[12:13] <DJAdmiral> kevor: no problem
[12:13] <gatekeeper> fm, quick googling found this: http://freescobox.justmyhost.com/
[12:13] <xsquared> hi, when i go to the cups web interface and add a printer, it says enter your password and username
[12:13] <DJAdmiral> protocol1: www.LinuxSurvival.com can help you out in learning basic linux commands ;)
[12:13] <J-_> stefg: what do you mean by the start parameter?
[12:13] <xsquared> i tried both root and my usernames, nothing happens
[12:13] <xsquared> what do I do?
[12:13] <Arafangion> What's a nice, easy VPN program to use? I need to connect to the VPN at my uni which appears to be using pptp, but I can't figure out how the _heck_ one uses pptp.
[12:14] <zyfo> !dist-upgrade
[12:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about dist-upgrade - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:14] <stefg> J-_: edit the starter and remove the %s or wahtever it was after /usr/bin/firefox
[12:14] <Arafangion> kvpn doesn't work, and doesn't give any info as to why it isn't working either.
[12:14] <frogzoo> xsquared: this is a wierd one - add user 'cupsys' to shadow & it will work
[12:14] <gatekeeper> fm, and this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17594.html
[12:14] <zcat[1] > Arafangion: I used poptop once, but that was years ago.... was easy enough to set up though
[12:14] <Nikoladze> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19280
[12:14] <DJAdmiral> does anyone know of any dynamic ip client for linux? like the clients that www.no-ip.com, www.changeip.cm, dyndns.com etc. provide
[12:15] <DJAdmiral> changeip.com*
[12:15] <Arafangion> DJAdmiral: Personally, I'd just purchase a domain name. They're very cheap.
[12:15] <threat> hi
[12:15] <Nikoladze> stefg: it mounts /windows with nick as the owner and group but user/group have no permissions on it
[12:15] <fm> thx gatekeeper, now I know what to do tonight... :p
[12:16] <zcat[1] > Arafangion: domain name, sure.. fixed IP's can be a pain some places though
[12:16] <stefg> Nikoladze: that's understandable
[12:16] <kaning> i have pasted the the error i get from mysql here
[12:16] <kaning> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19281