[07:31] <aphroguy> That's the handy thing about the way the devs set up the installation process: most of the generals to get it to 'just work' are set as default, so if you don't know something, leave it where it is.
[07:31] <mrigns> is there a way to add scripts to the konqueror context menu?
[07:31] <nonuda> !beryl
[07:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <NaNO2x> beryl looks nice but i'm unsure if its really needed
[07:34] <NaNO2x> i'm a kde noob though, so it may work better on this
[07:34] <cpk1> beryl isnt needed
[07:34] <NaNO2x> ok
[07:34] <NaNO2x> all verified
[07:34] <NaNO2x> txt mode now
[07:34] <mrigns> i think there are some good features in beryl
[07:34] <mrigns> and the cube isnt one of them ;P
[07:34] <mrigns> the task switching tools and thumbnails in the bar are quite nice
[07:34] <provolik> Hi
[07:35] <provolik> Does someone of you have experience with aMSN and webcam?
[07:35] <aphroguy> Of course it's needed; it is if you have the hardware to support it.  And if you don't need it, you need the hardware to support it so that you do need it.:-D  And unfortunately, I have neither at the moment.
[07:35] <Number2> B-P
[07:35] <provolik> -_-
[07:36] <NaNO2x> provolik yes
[07:37] <provolik> can you help me? It says me I have a firewall or a rouetr
[07:37] <mrigns> do you?
[07:37] <provolik> I have a router but I opened ports from 6890 to 6900
[07:37] <provolik> Now I don't know anything about the firewall
[07:37] <NaNO2x> are you using amsn?
[07:37] <provolik> yes
[07:43] <mrigns> wtf?
[07:43] <provolik> It says me that I am behind a firewall or a router....
[07:43] <provolik> I opened ports from 6890 to 6900 on my router
[07:43] <provolik> but it says me the same...
[07:43] <provolik> can you help?
[07:43] <provolik> uhm
[07:43] <provolik> I opened ports from 6890 to 6900 on my router, NaNO21
[07:43] <provolik> It says me that I am behind a firewall or a router....
[07:43] <NaNO21> wtf is with the server
[07:45] <Skuller> NaNO21: what wtf is with the server?
[07:45] <mrigns> some kind of netsplit
[07:46] <NaNO21> hmmm
[07:46] <NaNO21> one sec
[07:47] <NaNO21> lets see if this kicks me
[07:47] <NaNO21> nvm it would
[07:48] <teufel__> ok here is the problem for those up to the challenge i can connect to the isp through the kppp modem terminal but when i try to connect to the isp through the normal logon i the modem hangs it doesnt even make sound nothing at is there some way to connect to the isp its a hsfmodem
[07:48] <NaNO21> hmm
[07:48] <NaNO21> unsure on that
[07:48] <NaNO21> on the amsn problem
[07:48] <NaNO21> what router are you using?
[07:49] <mervteck_> Can Anyone help me with a cedega problem
[07:50] <teufel__> !dialup
[07:50] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:50] <teufel__> !modem
[07:51] <provolik> I am using US Robotics NaNO21
[07:51] <teufel__> !modem
[07:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:51] <NaNO21> ah
[07:51] <NaNO21> hmm
[07:51] <NaNO21> havent delt with them much heard they were good
[07:51] <NaNO21> but i cant help you much
[07:51] <teufel__> i think all i need is the modem strings
[07:51] <provolik> :-\
[07:51] <provolik> It's strange however
[07:51] <NaNO21> why would you ever wana use dialup!!!!
[07:52] <teufel__> i dont know i have not messed with a modem since like 98
[07:52] <teufel__> its my friends comp
[07:52] <provolik> If I open aMSN and I don't log in it says me that the ports are OK
[07:52] <NaNO21> hmm
[07:52] <NaNO21> well go into preferences
[07:52] <provolik> but if I log in it says me I am behind a firewall or a router
[07:52] <NaNO21> yeah
[07:52] <NaNO21> so check preferences
[07:52] <teufel__> i have spent alot of time loading him down with kubuntu telling him its cool then at the end of it all the modem doesnt work
[07:52] <NaNO21> and scan those ports on yourself
[07:53] <NaNO21> it could be a software setting you have
[07:53] <NaNO21> lol
[07:53] <NaNO21> that sucks
[07:53] <provolik> uhm
[07:53] <provolik> amsn preferences?
[07:53] <NaNO21> modem support usually isnt bad
[07:53] <NaNO21> yeah
[07:53] <teufel__> i can connect to the modem and get to the login prompt
[07:53] <NaNO21> i dont have it open right now so i cant tell you exactly
[07:53] <teufel__> with the terminal
[07:54] <teufel__> the modem terminal in kppp
[07:54] <mrigns> teufel__: if you want to show someone a GNU/Linux desktop, show him SabayonLinux 3.3
[07:54] <teufel__> i just loaded linux not a week ago
[07:54] <ffffu> any dudes have used avisplit before?
[07:55] <NaNO21> not i
[07:55] <teufel__> i can talk to my modem and all of that but it wont initilize and dial through kppp
[07:55] <ffffu> anyone knows how to split my viz?
[07:55] <NaNO21> ugh this is so much easier to install with pictures...or at least easier to watch while it installs :P
[07:56] <provolik> ok I will try later
[07:58] <NaNO21> hrm
[07:58] <NaNO21> its been stuck at 6% for a while
[07:58] <teufel__> well this is hopeless i think
[07:59] <NaNO21> nothing is hopeless
[07:59] <NaNO21> things just take a longer while
[08:05] <NaNO21> ok...
[08:05] <NaNO21> sooooo
[08:05] <NaNO21> still have the issue
[08:05] <NaNO21> it installed and all
[08:05] <NaNO21> but now its still the slanted stuff
[08:07] <mervteck_> hey can someone look at teh picture in this link and tell me how to get the thing on the right http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/LazyMonkeys-Gentoo?content=27915
[08:08] <iwonder> nfi  mervteck_ several of them do that
[08:08] <mrigns> thats superkaramba
[08:08] <mervteck_> can ya tell me how to get it =D
[08:08] <mrigns> the bomb in the systray
[08:09] <mrigns> apt-get install superkaramba i guess
[08:09] <mrigns> but there are many applets/themes etc for the prog
[08:10] <mervteck_> yeah i wanna get that same monitor guy thats on the right
[08:10] <mervteck_> i likie
[08:10] <iwonder> there are tons of "pieces" for superkamba
[08:11] <iwonder> i never found much use for them except eye candy
[08:11] <mervteck_> yeah im lookin at em now
[08:12] <Skuller> anyone here also on #freenode-social?..if yes, can you tell me what is it about?
[08:12] <NaNO2x> anyone help out with this issue?
[08:12] <iwonder> whats the issue NaNO2x?
[08:13] <mervteck_> mmm much better i loves my geektastic eyecandy =D
[08:14] <mervteck_> can u guys tell me how to upgrade my videocard drivers for nvidia, i dunno which im usin cuz i installed with Automatix2
[08:15] <mrigns> the u probably got the newest one around
[08:15] <mrigns> apt-get install nvidia-glx otherwise
[08:15] <mervteck_> k cuz like im wondering why its not detecting my card the gpu the memory and suck in the bit of eyecandy
[08:16] <mervteck_> such*
[08:16] <mrigns> which card is it?
[08:16] <mervteck_> 7950gt
[08:16] <NaNO2x> *sigh*
[08:16] <NaNO2x> so pissed at this
[08:16] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:16] <mervteck_> yup i got newest version
[08:16] <NaNO2x> well i cant reach shell from the start screen with ctrl alt f1
[08:17] <epimeth> !codecs
[08:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <NaNO2x> since i have an ati card i need to get a default set till i can get the ati driver
[08:17] <mrigns> its alt ctrl f1
[08:17] <NaNO2x> ctrl alt and altr ctrl shouldnt matter
[08:17] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:17] <iwonder|too> ctrl+alt+backsp
[08:17] <iwonder|too> to kill x
[08:17] <iwonder|too> type killall kdn
[08:17] <iwonder|too> kdm
[08:18] <NaNO2x> well
[08:18] <NaNO2x> i'm not getting a shell
[08:18] <iwonder|too> then edit your xorg.conf to use vesa
[08:18] <NaNO2x> and that wont kill x
[08:18] <NaNO2x> that sounds good
[08:18] <iwonder|too> usually have to hit it to or 3 times
[08:18] <NaNO2x> but the ctrl alt backspace
[08:18] <NaNO2x> oh
[08:18] <NaNO2x> one sec
[08:18] <NaNO2x> nope
[08:19] <NaNO2x> not killing x
[08:19] <iwonder|too> k
[08:19] <iwonder|too> is sshd running?
[08:19] <NaNO2x> unsure
[08:19] <NaNO2x> i just installed with the alt cd
[08:19] <iwonder|too> default install?
[08:19] <epimeth> !wmv
[08:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:19] <NaNO2x> because the live cd wouldnt even boot in
[08:19] <NaNO2x> i mean it goes througgh boot stuff
[08:19] <NaNO2x> but comes with this slant
[08:19] <NaNO2x> so i got through steps with alt cd on txt
[08:20] <NaNO2x> so kubuntu shoudl be fully active right now
[08:20] <NaNO2x> should i try sshing in
[08:20] <iwonder|too> in grub do you have  multiple listings og same kernel
[08:20] <NaNO2x> yeah
[08:20] <iwonder|too> try the second one
[08:20] <NaNO2x> one is for like
[08:20] <NaNO2x> recovery
[08:20] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:20] <NaNO2x> one sec
[08:20] <mervteck_> how do i customise my little side guy now to watch my pci ethernet card not my onboard
[08:21] <NaNO2x> ooh
[08:21] <NaNO2x> i'm in root
[08:21] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:21] <NaNO2x> so now what do i do
[08:21] <mrigns> try the config
[08:22] <NaNO2x> which config
[08:22] <iwonder|too> depends on which editor you have
[08:22] <NaNO2x> pico i'll use
[08:22] <NaNO2x> i'm sure it has pico
[08:22] <NaNO2x> :p
[08:22] <unix_infidel> holy jebus do i hate installing OS's
[08:22] <mrigns> was addressing mervteck_
[08:22] <NaNO2x> but wheres it located
[08:22] <iwonder|too> one sec let me see
[08:22] <unix_infidel> especially since its taken almost 5 hours and its going to take just as long on the other comp
[08:22] <mrigns> mervteck_: switch the string eth0 with eth1
[08:22] <mervteck_> what you mean mrigns
[08:23] <unix_infidel> too bad this stuff is windows, cant wait to run these nix install scripts and just be DONE later on :)
[08:23] <mervteck_> where do i change that
[08:23] <iwonder|too> in /etc/X11
[08:23] <mrigns> rightclick on the actual applet should pop up a context menu
[08:23] <iwonder|too> i use nano but use what u are familiar with
[08:23] <iwonder|too> change the driver line to vesa
[08:24] <iwonder|too> the xorg.conf
[08:24] <NaNO2x> i've never used nano
[08:24] <NaNO2x> whats diff with that and pico :p
[08:24] <iwonder|too> never used pico
[08:24] <mrigns> VIM FOREVER!
[08:24] <NaNO2x> i use vim for ...well more stuff
[08:24] <NaNO2x> but not for a basic txt editor
[08:24] <iwonder|too> i hate vi,some of my terminal mis interput :q
[08:25] <NaNO2x> ok so which one do i chang
[08:25] <iwonder|too> type nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:25] <iwonder|too> use your down arrow to get to the drive line
[08:25] <iwonder|too> use delete key
[08:25] <iwonder|too> type in vesa
[08:25] <iwonder|too> hit ctrl x
[08:25] <mervteck_> well im off to bed
[08:25] <iwonder|too> hit y
[08:26] <mervteck_> have a good nite guys
[08:26] <mrigns> here its morning
[08:26] <mrigns> bye
[08:26] <mrigns> ;P
[08:26] <mervteck_> =P
[08:26] <NaNO2x> wait
[08:26] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:26] <NaNO2x> ...
[08:26] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:26] <NaNO2x> oh
[08:26] <NaNO2x> drive
[08:26] <NaNO2x> i'm on device and it says vesa
[08:26] <NaNO2x> hrm
[08:26] <NaNO2x> i dont see drive
[08:27] <mrigns> driver
[08:27] <mrigns> not drive
[08:27] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:27] <iwonder|too> section "device"
[08:27] <iwonder|too> Driver
[08:27] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:27] <NaNO2x> i'm there
[08:27] <NaNO2x> and it has "vesa"
[08:27] <NaNO2x> soooo
[08:27] <iwonder|too> and it messes the screen up?
[08:27] <NaNO2x> yeah
[08:27] <NaNO2x> hrm
[08:28] <NaNO2x> maybe i should just install the ati drivers from cmd
[08:28] <mrigns> the ati driver isnt running
[08:28] <iwonder|too> do you perhaps have multiple drivers?
[08:28] <NaNO2x> shouldnt
[08:28] <mrigns> no, vesa is running
[08:28] <NaNO2x> section "device"
[08:28] <NaNO2x> identifier "ati technologies, inc. ati default card"
[08:28] <NaNO2x> driver "vesa"
[08:28] <NaNO2x> busid "pci:1:0:0"
[08:29] <iwonder|too> mine use radeon there but its an older card
[08:29] <iwonder|too> i usually use vesa as a fall back
[08:29] <NaNO2x> yeah
[08:29] <NaNO2x> well thats supposed to be using vesa isnt it
[08:30] <iwonder|too> unless you are defaulting to too high a default depth
[08:30] <NaNO2x> well
[08:30] <NaNO2x> which is default?
[08:30] <iwonder|too> look in screen section at what identifier says
[08:30] <NaNO2x> it says 24
[08:30] <NaNO2x> which is
[08:30] <NaNO2x> 1680x1050
[08:30] <NaNO2x> the highest
[08:30] <NaNO2x> i think
[08:30] <iwonder|too> yeah vesa won';t do that
[08:30] <NaNO2x> well
[08:30] <NaNO2x> wait
[08:31] <NaNO2x> they all say 1680x1050
[08:31] <NaNO2x> under modes
[08:31] <mrigns> try deleting the entries there, after backupping, and just put "1024x768_60" in there
[08:31] <iwonder|too> crazy autoconfig
[08:31] <NaNO2x> yeah i know
[08:31] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:31] <NaNO2x> one sec
[08:32] <iwonder|too> which card do you have NaNO2x?
[08:32] <NaNO2x> whats the _60 for
[08:32] <NaNO2x> x1600
[08:33] <iwonder|too> 60 hertz i think
[08:33] <NaNO2x> so is it something i need to do?
[08:33] <iwonder|too> 1024x768 running at 60 hertz refresh
[08:33] <iwonder|too> yeah
[08:34] <NaNO2x> ok
[08:34] <NaNO2x> so how cna i start it back up or should i just restarT?
[08:35] <mrigns> restart x
[08:35] <NaNO2x> all right... i did exit
[08:35] <NaNO2x> and its umm
[08:35] <NaNO2x> stuck on a boot script it looks like
[08:35] <NaNO2x> moment
[08:36] <iwonder|too> from root console type kdm
[08:36] <mrigns> then search /var/log/Xorg.0.log for something strange
[08:36] <iwonder|too> or startX if u just want to test X
[08:36] <NaNO2x> see it goes through the like loading of drivers etc
[08:37] <NaNO2x> lets see if it fixed the actual start
[08:37] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:37] <NaNO2x> i think i broke it :P
[08:37] <NaNO2x> and i think i know how
[08:37] <NaNO2x> soooo
[08:37] <iwonder|too> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:38] <NaNO2x> how do you comment something prooperly
[08:38] <iwonder|too> look for (EE)
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:38] <NaNO2x> because i just did //
[08:38] <iwonder|too> #
[08:38] <NaNO2x> and i think it broke
[08:38] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:38] <NaNO2x> damit not being c!!
[08:38] <iwonder|too> yeah that probably pissed it off
[08:39] <Jucato> use # instead of //
[08:39] <Jucato> (and // is C++ :P)
[08:39] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:39] <NaNO2x> umm
[08:39] <NaNO2x> anyway
[08:39] <NaNO2x> how do i start it up
[08:39] <NaNO2x> startX
[08:40] <NaNO2x> that seems to simple
[08:40] <Jucato> startx
[08:40] <mrigns> kdm
[08:40] <Jucato> Linux is as case-sensitive as C
[08:40] <NaNO2x> woah
[08:40] <NaNO2x> naw
[08:40] <iwonder|too> you shoulud get an ugly gray screen
[08:40] <NaNO2x> still broken
[08:40] <NaNO2x> so how can i kill it
[08:40] <nonuda> !fglrx
[08:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:40] <iwonder|too> ynless kde starts with X
[08:40] <NaNO2x> still all broke
[08:40] <Jucato> if it didn't start, it won't be alive, so you don't need to kill it...
[08:41] <NaNO2x> i figure i should install the driver
[08:41] <NaNO2x> well
[08:41] <NaNO2x> it started up
[08:41] <NaNO2x> to the light blue screen
[08:41] <NaNO2x> thats twisted and slanted
[08:41] <NaNO2x> and squeeze
[08:41] <NaNO2x> d
[08:41] <Jucato> light blue screen....
[08:41] <iwonder|too> try ctrl alt +
[08:41] <Jucato> BSOD :O
[08:41] <NaNO2x> lol
[08:41] <NaNO2x> kinda
[08:41] <NaNO2x> :P
[08:41] <mrigns> BSOD = ?
[08:41] <NaNO2x> ctrl alt + does nothing
[08:41] <Jucato> Blue Screen Of Death
[08:41] <Jucato> it's a Windows thing :D
[08:41] <NaNO2x> wow...i better not have bsod'ed nix
[08:41] <NaNO2x> :p
[08:42] <mrigns> hehe
[08:42] <iwonder|too> ctrl alt f1-f6 should give console
[08:43] <NaNO2x> wo
[08:43] <NaNO2x> warnings
[08:43] <iwonder|too> but X may hang the pc
[08:43] <r3factored> is there an interface to use if you want to play with on-screen-display activity - i.e. amarok osd?
[08:43] <iwonder|too> warnings are good
[08:43] <NaNO2x> /dev/wacom
[08:43] <NaNO2x> can not find it
[08:43] <iwonder|too> wth is it
[08:43] <mrigns> got the same warning
[08:43] <NaNO2x> yeah?
[08:43] <Jucato> r3factored: the OSD thing is a per-app feature... or are you asking how to configure Amarok's OSD?
[08:44] <mrigns> nothing to do with it
[08:44] <mrigns> i think
[08:44] <NaNO2x> ok so lets see
[08:44] <r3factored> Jucato: no i want to use it for other things.
[08:44] <NaNO2x> where should i check for problems
[08:44] <Jucato> r3factored: ah you have to actually code it afaik
[08:44] <nonuda> damn fglrx seems not work with my ati rage mobility..
[08:44] <r3factored> Jucato: ok do you know what framework it uses? how would i find out more about the interfaces?
[08:44] <iwonder|too> in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:45] <Jucato> r3factored: try #kde or #kde-devel coz I don't know...
[08:45] <mrigns> there is a legend about sacrificing chickens above ati boards solving all problems...
[08:45] <NaNO2x> ok what am i looking for
[08:45] <nonuda> lol
[08:45] <r3factored> cool thanks
[08:46] <david> I'm running Ubuntu 6.10, and trying to run Kqemu. Has anyone had any luck with that?
[08:46] <Jucato> mrigns: that is simply not true. nonuda, don't believe him. you don't need to sacrifice chickens.
[08:46] <Jucato> lambs are the preferred sacrifice
[08:46] <Jucato> but gnus would be best, I heard
[08:46] <iwonder|too> (EE)
[08:46] <mrigns> fool lambs are supposed to fix wireless lan problems
[08:48] <NaNO2x> AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[08:48] <NaNO2x> xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[08:48] <NaNO2x> a lot of those
[08:48] <NaNO2x> for the second
[08:48] <nonuda> !baddevice
[08:48] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[08:48] <NaNO2x> but only one of the first
[08:49] <mrigns> outcomment "dri" in the xorg.conf
[08:49] <NaNO2x> under load?
[08:49] <rob-west> is there a place for unrealircd
[08:49] <mrigns> sec must check
[08:50] <mrigns> yes
[08:50] <rob-west> if so where
[08:50] <NaNO2x> nope x is still fuxored
[08:51] <harmental> hey guys...i get this when apt-get updating:
[08:51] <harmental> GPG error: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org edgy/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[08:51] <harmental> what can i do?
[08:51] <mrigns> get the key
[08:52] <david> _bump_  Anyone able to run kqemu under Kubuntu 6.10?
[08:52] <AniHatzis> I loose KDE Wallet keys every day with no obvious reason (Kubuntu 6.10)
[08:52] <mrigns> NaNO2x: *noideasleft*
[08:52] <NaNO2x> hrm
[08:52] <AniHatzis> Does KDE Wallet only store passwords for a single session?
[08:52] <iwonder|too> NaNO2x:  which card?
[08:52] <NaNO2x> so, any idea about installing api driver through shell
[08:52] <mrigns> x1600
[08:52] <NaNO2x> x1600
[08:53] <iwonder|too> wonder with xorg ati driver will somewhat support it?
[08:53] <david> AniHatzis: I've been having KWallet issues under 6.10 as well.
[08:54] <AniHatzis> david: Did you find a solution? I could not find anything appropriate in Google :(
[08:54] <david> AniHatzis: I haven't lost keys, but it doesn't want to come up with Konq. Still fiddling with it, no answers...
[08:54] <NaNO2x> eyg
[08:54] <NaNO2x> wtf
[08:54] <NaNO2x> it still has (EE) AIGLX: DRI module not loaded
[08:54] <NaNO2x> i commented it with a #
[08:55] <iwonder|too> in xorg.conf near the top?
[08:55] <mrigns> backup and delete
[08:55] <iwonder|too> in modules section
[08:55] <nonuda> i have recently install ati drivers, but x wont start, it said EE No devices detected, in xorg.conf there are 2 section of "Device", once using "ati" as driver and others "fglrx" as driver
[08:55] <AniHatzis> david: My wallet is getting completely empty. And it seems that it doesn't come up then, I have to start it manually.
[08:56] <draeath> I did something stupid... when I installed I accidently set /dev/hda2 (92mb) to /home instead of /boot, and /boot is now on the / FS. Is this faily easy to correct?
[08:56] <david> AniHatzis: I think I'm seeing the same issue with the manual settings. Let me bop over to my wife's session and try somethings...
[08:57] <draeath> If i move the contents of /boot to a new partition and mount that partition to /boot in the future...
[08:58] <draeath> will Grub explode?
[08:58] <iwonder|too> draeath:  the location of /boot doesn't matter just as long as grub.conf coincides
[08:58] <iwonder|too> mine is in /
[08:59] <NaNO2x> X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:59] <NaNO2x> soooooooooooooooo pretty
[08:59] <NaNO2x> :D
[08:59] <NaNO2x> <3
[08:59] <iwonder|too> i have 2 linux partitions.one for swap,one for /
[08:59] <iwonder|too> whatcha fix NaNO2x?
[08:59] <draeath> Hmm, menu.lst doesnt reference itself, it only seems to matter what device / is on
[08:59] <NaNO2x> just took out the lines
[08:59] <NaNO2x> and changed it from that _60
[09:00] <NaNO2x> to just x1024
[09:00] <NaNO2x> ok
[09:00] <NaNO2x> now to install ati drivers
[09:00] <draeath> Good luck >.<
[09:00] <harmental> mrigns: how?
[09:00] <NaNO2x> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[09:00] <NaNO2x> that should help
[09:00] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:01] <draeath> iwonder|too: here goes :D
[09:01] <draeath> iwonder|too: gotta drop to single-user mode though
[09:01] <david> AniHatzis: Still there?
[09:01] <AniHatzis> davide: yes
[09:01] <draeath> What runlevel is root/local only?
[09:02] <david> AniHatzis: It seems to be working now. :-(
[09:02] <draeath> nevermind ill just reboot
[09:02] <david> AniHatzis: One thing I did was import her old wallet in, and fiddle with it a bti.
[09:02] <AniHatzis> david: That's good. Did you learn the reason?
[09:02] <unix_infidel> (w/ apt-get dist-upgrade that is)
[09:03] <david> AniHatzis: That seemed to take care of some of the issues.
[09:03] <seven11> does kubuntu open ports automaticly or is it enough to open the port on the router
[09:03] <AniHatzis> david: I will try with the wallet file I back up yesterday. I will drop a note
[09:04] <david> AniHatzis: Good luck! I'm not an admin, so I probably won't be around. I'm looking for help myself. ;-)
[09:05] <david> Anyone had luck with kqemu? Going... Going...
[09:06] <seven11> do i have to configure iptables or is it set up with the programs
[09:06] <david> Never mind, I'll pound on it some more. Thanks! -oo-
[09:08] <harmental> mrigns: do you know how to get keys back?
[09:08] <mrigns> i dont know where you got it
[09:09] <harmental> mrigns: me neither.......ok...thx anyways.....
[09:17] <noob> when i start up beyl manager the bar on top of the windows disapears can someone help me get it back
[09:22] <NaNO2x> ugh
[09:22] <NaNO2x> this isnt working
[09:24] <[StingRay] > Hi all. Can somebody tell what was the recovery boot option with the livecd? I have broken system files.
[09:24] <eilker> !bind
[09:24] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[09:25] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin.
[09:25] <eilker> !djbDNS
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about djbdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <[StingRay] > !recovery
[09:27] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[09:29] <nonuda_> !ati
[09:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <NaNO2x> psh
[09:29] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:29] <NaNO2x> i got it working
[09:29] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:30] <nonuda_> NaNO2x, did u got ati working?
[09:34] <draeath> That was irritating
[09:35] <draeath> does anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't let me use my PS/2-keyboard but a USB-keyboard works fine?
[09:35] <draeath> isn't that backwards?
[09:35] <draeath> iwonder|too: it worked, soon as I remembered that root(0,4) was actually looking for /boot instead of /
[09:36] <eilker> !tux
[09:36] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[09:39] <iwonder|too> draeath:  death,where doesn't keyboard work?
[09:39] <iwonder|too> in grub or X?
[09:39] <NaNO2x> so yeah iwonder
[09:39] <NaNO2x> it all worked
[09:39] <iwonder|too> cool
[09:39] <NaNO2x> have ati drivers now
[09:39] <NaNO2x> and a huge ass resolution
[09:39] <NaNO2x> and i love it
[09:39] <NaNO2x> :D
[09:40] <iwonder|too> which driver?
[09:40] <NaNO2x> not the open source one
[09:40] <NaNO2x> which i dislike
[09:40] <NaNO2x> but i want one working
[09:40] <iwonder|too> fglxr?
[09:40] <NaNO2x> yeah
[09:40] <draeath> iwonder|too: only in single-user-mode
[09:40] <iwonder|too> never got it to work right on my desktop
[09:40] <draeath> works fine in X, in the TTYs once booted, and in grub
[09:41] <iwonder|too> draeath: i'd guess there is a module loading difference
[09:42] <iwonder|too> i used ati and radeon,both from xorg
[09:42] <iwonder|too> radeon gave best glxgears
[09:42] <iwonder|too> for me
[09:43] <iwonder|too> but like i said i got an older card
[09:43] <iwonder|too> module suporrt was common
[09:44] <iwonder|too> don't need a nice card to look at irc and porn,lol
[09:44] <NaNO2x> :P
[09:44] <NaNO2x> i use blender so this should make things nice
[09:44] <nonuda_> i still have trouble with ati card, can u help me?
[09:45] <draeath> thanks again iwonder|too
[09:46] <NaNO2x> whats the problems nonuda
[09:46] <iwonder|too> nonuda_:  did you try the how-to posted earlier?
[09:47] <nonuda_> hmm..nope...i have try the guide but still not succeed
[09:47] <NaNO2x> whats the problems?
[09:48] <stdin> [StingRay] : hey
[09:48] <nonuda_> fglrxinfo show me OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:48] <nonuda_> aha stdin has wake up
[09:48] <NaNO2x> hmm
[09:48] <stdin> i was playin with apache
[09:50] <nonuda_> stdin, can i run beryl on Ati Rage Mobility? currently direct rendering = no
[09:51] <stdin> nonuda_: think you can, but you'll need the ati binary driver and xgl installed and setup
[09:52] <stdin> nonuda_: not to sure about that card tho
[09:54] <nonuda_> ok..currently i have installed ati driver using envy, and in adept manager i can see xorg-driver-fglrx installed and so is fglrx-kernel-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:54] <premier_> Im having a very heated debate with a friend... Whats the status of linux of macs, esp mactels?
[09:54] <stdin> nonuda_: you either install the one with envy, or the one from ubuntu, not both
[09:55] <nonuda_> i install with envy, but when i checked through adept, i can see they all installed, i didnot use apt-get
[09:56] <nonuda_> the installation seems to works fine, i got no error, but x wont start it said "no devices found"
[09:57] <stdin> nonuda_: try reconfiguring the X server
[09:57] <stdin> nonuda_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:58] <nonuda_> already tried that, if i use fglrx as driver, x wont start, but if i use ati, x will start but with no direct rendering
[09:59] <stdin> nonuda_: try removing the envy driver and the ubuntu one, then just install the ubutnu one
[10:00] <stdin> nonuda_: they could be conflicting
[10:00] <nonuda_> hmm..i see, reasonable enough
[10:01] <nonuda_> ok..fitst i will remove all fglrx* in adept manager..right?
[10:03] <stdin> nonuda_: yeah, but you need to tell envy to remove the driver too
[10:03] <nonuda_> ok..brb
[10:07] <epimeth> stdin: whatup?
[10:07] <stdin> trying to get my head around the apahce config
[10:07] <nonuda_> hmm envy said : EBVY ERROR: envy does not recognise your card as compatible with any version of the driver.......detection failed!!
[10:07] <genii> premier_: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:08] <nonuda_> EBVY=ENVY
[10:08] <epimeth> stdin: what, specifically?
[10:09] <stdin> nonuda_: maybe your card is too old, ati don't make a legacy driver line nvidia do
[10:09] <stdin> epimeth: I decides to make a wiki, using moinmoin, but it's being weird :P
[10:10] <nonuda_> yes its an old one, i was once installed ati through envy by choosing manual installation, then choose the legacy driver
[10:10] <genii> I'd like to see some wiki that you don't have to learn a new formatting language. Just copy in some html or so
[10:10] <Ayabara> anyone running a dual screen setup with an ati card? I have some problems with this. when I maximize my window on the secondary screen, some of it disappears behind my panels.
[10:11] <epimeth> stdin: dunno moinmoin....
[10:12] <stdin> !info moinmoin-common
[10:12] <ubotu> moinmoin-common: Python clone of WikiWiki - common data. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.3-1ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 1537 kB, installed size 10272 kB
[10:14] <epimeth> cool....
[10:14] <epimeth> whats the problem?
[10:16] <nonuda_> stdin, i got the legacy ati driver from what envy links give me, so i will never can't run beryl on my ati card?
[10:16] <stdin> it keeps trying to read it's config from somewhere that doesn't exist :p
[10:16] <epimeth> lol
[10:16] <stdin> nonuda_: try using it with xgl, if you can get xgl working you can run beryl
[10:17] <epimeth> stdin... you using beryl?
[10:17] <nonuda_> xgl? where can i get it?
[10:17] <stdin> nonuda_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[10:18] <stdin> epimeth: yeah, when xorg isn't broke (I'm on feisty)
[10:19] <unix_infidel> lol.
[10:19] <unix_infidel> yaay, less than a month till final release :P
[10:19] <unix_infidel> less than a day dill first beta :P
[10:19] <unix_infidel> and xorg is broken.
[10:19] <stdin> was, because feisty is on xorg 7.2 now
[10:20] <stdin> and it took a while to get it all updated
[10:21] <epimeth> is the settings manager working for you?
[10:21] <epimeth> I've got 2 separate installs (1 feisty, 1 edgy) and neither works!
[10:22] <stdin> yeah, it's working here
[10:22] <epimeth> arg
[10:22] <epimeth> wtf
[10:23] <stdin> what version are you on? I have 0.2.1-0ubuntu1
[10:23] <stdin> (from feisty/universe)
[10:23] <epimeth> how do I check that?
[10:24] <stdin> "apt-cache policy beryl-manager" should tell you
[10:24] <jack__> hi
[10:25] <epimeth> 0.2.0~0beryl1 (edgy)
[10:25] <epimeth> I'll check the feisty one....
[10:25] <jack__> is somebody experienced with guarddog?
[10:25] <stdin> looks like that's the latest edgy version
[10:29] <epimeth> stdin: do you know anything about locales?
[10:29] <epimeth> stdin: a flash (too late) of inspiration hit me
[10:30] <stdin> epimeth: some, not much tho
[10:30] <epimeth> stdin: seems its a locale problem...
[10:30] <epimeth> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11309/
[10:31] <epimeth> I'm consistantly getting those annoying perl locale errors, too... every time I upgrade or, really, do anything with packages
[10:31] <epimeth> and !locale is useless
[10:34] <stdin> epimeth: does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" generate some locales ?
[10:35] <epimeth> yes... but it doesn't set my default locale properly, so the perl errors appear again and again
[10:35] <stdin> what does "echo $LANG" show ?
[10:36] <epimeth> en_US.ISO-8859-15
[10:36] <epimeth> even tho I've explicitly said I want UTF-8
[10:36] <genii> so western european
[10:36] <epimeth> hebrew, actually :-)
[10:37] <genii> hmm
[10:37] <unix_infidel> wont take ikernel file eh, well booyah.
[10:37] <stdin> epimeth: so you close the locale with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" ?
[10:37] <epimeth> yup
[10:37] <epimeth> utf-8
[10:37] <genii> You may need i18 support
[10:37] <epimeth> and nada
[10:37] <epimeth> its like I never even ran the thing
[10:38] <stdin> epimeth: and you have ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:38] <epimeth> I *did* somehow manage to fix LANGUAGE="en_IL"... which made no sense... it is now he_IL, but I really want it to be en_US...
[10:39] <epimeth> ummm....maybe?  I didn't explicitly install any of them.  lemme check aptitude
[10:39] <epimeth> unless there's a faster way?
[10:39] <epimeth> apt-cache something?
[10:40] <epimeth> got them all, yes
[10:40] <stdin> epimeth: dpkg -l|egrep '(ubuntu-minimal|ubuntu-standard|kubuntu-desktop)'
[10:40] <mjungo> Hi everyone. Im a Newbie and need some help finetuning Samba please. Someone please help me.
[10:40] <epimeth> spkg -l = list all installed packages... good to know
[10:40] <mjungo> I searched the docs and I'm getting mor na dmore confued.
[10:41] <stdin> epimeth: what's in  /etc/environment ?
[10:41] <genii> !info hebubuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> Package hebubuntu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:42] <genii> Hmm
[10:42] <epimeth> I *swear* I changed that!
[10:42] <epimeth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11310/
[10:42] <stdin> epimeth: LANGUAGE does nothing, you need to set LANG
[10:43] <stdin> epimeth: it's normally done by reconfiguring localeconf
[10:43] <epimeth> changed them.. do I have to restart?
[10:43] <epimeth> or just log out/log in?
[10:43] <stdin> login/out should do it
[10:43] <mjungo> is there any _kubuntu_ specific documentation for setting up samba with edgy?
[10:43] <hackdaddy_> what were the commands to fix a broke synapse upgrade?
[10:43] <epimeth> brb
[10:44] <stdin> !samba
[10:44] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:44] <mjungo> ubotu: thaks I will try again
[10:44] <hackdaddy_> so far i have "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:45] <hackdaddy_> but the files are locked
[10:45] <stdin> hackdaddy_: error about /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[10:46] <exence_> bonjour
[10:46] <hackdaddy_> yes, stdin
[10:46] <stdin> !aptfix
[10:46] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:46] <exence_> savez vous comment modifier la resolution ecran sous kubuntu
[10:47] <hackdaddy_> thanks, stdin
[10:47] <hackdaddy_> !aptfix
[10:47] <genii> If synapse is still running you won't be able to run anything like apt-get or dpkg or so on
[10:47] <stdin> !fr | exence_
[10:47] <ubotu> exence_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:47] <SilverSurfer> ahah
[10:48] <SilverSurfer> exence_ -> xorg.com
[10:48] <SilverSurfer> exence_ -> xorg.conf
[10:49] <epimeth> nope... looks like I need to restart
[10:49] <epimeth> grrr
[10:49] <epimeth> also, whats with pacakges being held back from upgrade?
[10:50] <epimeth> libgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-2-dev ?/?
[10:50] <stdin> epimeth: is that with apt-get/aptitude upgrade or dist-upgrade ?
[10:50] <epimeth> upgrade
[10:50] <epimeth> ahhh
[10:50] <stdin> try with dist-upgrade
[10:51] <epimeth> dist-upgrade works
[10:51] <epimeth> why does one and not the other?
[10:51] <stdin> !apt
[10:51] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:51] <stdin> look at the info there
[10:51] <stdin> there's a difference between the tow
[10:51] <stdin> *two
[10:52] <hackdaddy_> thanks, stdin and others :-)
[10:54] <raf> goodmorning. i have installed kernel <IP_ADDRESS> custom on feisty and i canot complete a nvidia install using the installer...what can i do? has anyone had this issue?
[10:55] <stdin> raf: feisty support/questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:55] <genii> raf Maybe try #ubuntu+1
[10:55] <genii> stdin Heh :)
[10:55] <mjungo> Hi Im getting nuts here. Can someone help me finetune my samba on Kubuntu 10.6 please, please!
[10:55] <kubuntu> how to play m3 in kubuntu
[10:55] <kubuntu> mp3
[10:56] <stdin> !mp3
[10:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:56] <mjungo> kubuntu: you can also install and use automatix to handle that.
[10:57] <stdin> !automatix | mjungo, kubuntu
[10:57] <ubotu> mjungo, kubuntu: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:58] <kubuntu> is their any other mp3 player for kubuntu
[10:58] <__-osh-__> !beryl
[10:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <mjungo> stdin: I read through the documentation on the Samba thing and XP sees the server but I can not log on for the life of me. how do I get around this.
[10:58] <stdin> kubuntu: most/all audio apps will play mp3s if you have the condec installed
[10:59] <nonuda_> stdin, how if i put *.deb in /var/cache/apt/archieves, does adep manager still downloading the file from the web?
[10:59] <mjungo> stdin, Kubuntu: and automatix gives you the codec files.
[10:59] <kubuntu> is thier a player compatible fo kubuntu
[10:59] <stdin> mjungo: try setting "security = SHARE" in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:59] <mjungo> stdin: will ahve a look.
[10:59] <stdin> mjungo: automatix is evil, don't use it
[11:00] <epimeth> mjungo: security = ?
[11:00] <stdin> nonuda_: not if they have the right file name
[11:01] <nonuda_> aha ok..i'm going to copy all of *.deb into my laptop..and doing some update tonight without the net..ok gtg bye
[11:01] <stdin> epimeth: like this http://pastebin.ca/404877
[11:02] <roly_> how can i resize a kubuntu lvm on my hd
[11:02] <epimeth> stdin: I was asking what he set it is :-)
[11:03] <stdin> epimeth: defaults to user
[11:03] <roly_> how can i resize a kubuntu lvm on my hd
[11:04] <mjungo> stdin: thanks that worked. Makes my day.
[11:05] <[pyro] > *yawn* hi guys
[11:05] <epimeth> stdin: I've set up a pdc using samba... now *that* was a nightmare
[11:05] <genii> epimeth Yes, been there :)
[11:05] <epimeth> stdin: yes... I know!  damnit, now I *know* I need coffee
[11:06] <[pyro] > ah, thanks :)
[11:06] <epimeth> see you guys in a bit... there's a cute barrista down the block who's about to have her day brightened!
[11:06] <[pyro] > genii: i have a TX2 card on its way :)
[11:06] <genii> heh If I had a virtual cafe I'd be virtually rich :)
[11:07] <genii> [pyro]  Cool :) They always worked for me, even under old FreeBSD etc
[11:07] <unix_infidel> barrista ftw :)
[11:09] <genii> Jucato Thanks muchly :)
[11:09] <Jucato> is that a virtual thanks too? :D
[11:09] <genii> (tips heavily in virtual Canadian dollars)
[11:10] <kubuntu> amarok
[11:11] <Jucato> konqueror
[11:11] <Jucato> oops forgot the <-- :D
[11:12] <mjungo> stdin: one slight problem remains with my smaba. It is read only although it says in the /etc/samba/smb.conf read only - no Any pointer how I can share it so I can write to it from Windoze?
[11:14] <stdin> mjungo: not sure, I'm not a samba expert (at all), I use swat to configure samba
[11:14] <mjungo> how did you get swat to run? I sistalled it but it does not run for some rason.
[11:15] <stdin> mjungo: make sure you have inetutils-inetd installed
[11:15] <stdin> mjungo: or any inetd server
[11:20] <nomad111> can any1 recommend a decent c ide
[11:20] <nomad111> not c++
[11:20] <nomad111> just c
[11:21] <Jucato> kdevelop can do C too
[11:21] <nomad111> wasnt kdevelop made for writing code related to kde
[11:21] <waylandbill> nomad111: kdevelop will do C since gcc will compile both.
[11:21] <nomad111> or is it general purpose
[11:22] <Jucato> it's multilingual
[11:22] <waylandbill> nomad111: It's good for both kde and other programming tasks.
[11:22] <nomad111> cool ill grab it now
[11:22] <genii> it's good for all kinds of things
[11:23] <nomad111> i cant use eclipse/cdt under windows
[11:23] <nomad111> doesnt work for me
[11:24] <genii> nomad Normally what are you using in Windoze?
[11:24] <genii> ^nomad111^
[11:24] <nomad111> everything related to my university studies
[11:24] <nomad111> i use it coz i cant find equivalent programs in kubuntu
[11:24] <genii> nomad111 I mean as a compiler frontend
[11:25] <nomad111> i used to use dev-c++ which uses gcc
[11:25] <roland_> why is kde on kubuntu slow
[11:25] <nomad111> and i was having trouble with it
[11:26] <waylandbill> nomad111: which programs are you using that you can't find a linux replacement for?
[11:27] <nomad111> waylandbill: mathematica
[11:28] <nomad111> waylandbill: c#, vb.net... (ms props)
[11:28] <nomad111> waylandbill: office 2007
[11:29] <waylandbill> mono is the implementation of .net, which you probably know and vb.net is being developed currently.
[11:29] <RedIsDead> hi
[11:30] <waylandbill> there's a 2007 of M$ office? I didn't know there was past office xp. ;-) open office does just about everything I need to do.
[11:30] <RedIsDead> I updated kubuntu yesterday and now kopete segfault
[11:30] <[pyro] > thats better
[11:31] <genii> There is a linux mathematica
[11:31] <nomad111> ill have a look at that then
[11:31] <nomad111> genii: i want matlab too, NOT octave lol
[11:32] <nomad111> there is a linux version of that
[11:32] <nomad111> but i havent gotten around to getting it
[11:32] <genii> nomad111: http://www.wolfram.com/news/presslinux.html
[11:33] <nomad111> ye i just saw that
[11:33] <genii> Hmm C sharp might be an obstacle
[11:33] <epimeth> anybody read a new kind of science? (wolfram)
[11:35] <nomad111> genii: do u develop code
[11:36] <genii> nomad111: I wrote some code, yes
[11:37] <nomad111> c?
[11:37] <tdn> Hi. I have a Asus P5N32 mainboard. On board is a wireless access point. I would like to enable this access point. But I do not know how to do this in Linux or if it is even supported. Can I please get some advice on this or maybe just some pointers to information about enabling on board access points in Linux in general?
[11:37] <sandro__> hi all .. i have a dual boot machine (grub) with windows and kubuntu 6.1 ... i just "found out" my linux mounts the windows harddrive (os on diff hdds not partitions) to /media/sdb1 .. thing is that harddrive is ntfs formatted/used .. is it "save" to write on that drive ? cause as i said the mount "is just there" and its NOT (ro)
[11:37] <genii> nomad111: fortran77,c,c+,pascal,lisp, and some others
[11:38] <epimeth> damn, genii... old(ish) school :-)
[11:38] <genii> mainly C these days but no huge projects
[11:38] <genii> epimeth I didn't even mention assembly LOL
[11:38] <waylandbill> c,c++,perl,php maybe python some day. :-)
[11:38] <epimeth> isn't that a given, tho :-)
[11:39] <genii> Jucato :)
[11:40] <sandro__> (pity fortran developer (backus) just died btw)
[11:40] <nomad111> sandro__: so ive heard
[11:40] <nomad111> i want to learn python one day
[11:42] <nomad111> genii: so are u familiar with kdevelop
[11:42] <nomad111> genii: hav u used it a lot, coz im getting an error
[11:42] <epimeth> nomad111: http://www.python.org/  today is as good a day as any!
[11:43] <genii> nomad111: I'm usually writing my code in a text editor then just compiling at commandline
[11:43] <sandro__> no mean to bother you guys - just repeating my question in a different way :) ::: am i running into trouble (i wont test!) when writing to a mounted ntfs drive with kubuntu 6.1 ?!
[11:43] <epimeth> sandro__: depends on which ntfs drivers you are using....
[11:43] <nomad111> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11315/, i think this error is not related to kdevelop after reading through it
[11:43] <epimeth> pastebin your /etc/fstab
[11:44] <genii> nomad111: OK, I'll have a look
[11:44] <nomad111> genii: thx
[11:45] <_4strO> yop yop
[11:45] <epimeth> my mate's come over....  O>o
[11:45] <Jucato> O.o
[11:45] <Jucato> aw he left :P
[11:46] <sandro__> need a relog brb
[11:46] <genii> nomad111: Are you in #ubuntu-programming? If so I will post something there
[11:47] <nomad111> ok ill join there
[11:47] <nomad111> genii: im there
[11:47] <genii> OK 1 moment
[11:51] <nomad111> genii: i figured it out
[11:51] <nomad111> genii: needed to install libtool
[11:52] <genii> You can also pass those other things in the make command
[11:54] <MinceR> hay
[11:55] <faidillinger> hi there, i am trying to get the last version of Kino, can someone please tell me what repository do i have to add please ?
[11:55] <MinceR> i don't know which program this bug is in (probably multiple), but with a kde+beryl setup, adept_notifier often refuses to go into the tray and exists as a separate window instead; what's worse, if it finds that there are upgradable packages, it gets out of the tray and puts X in a state where all keys (even ctrl+alt+f1, ctrl+alt+backspace, ctrl+alt+del and numlock) are ignored until i quit adept_notifier (with the mouse) -- at which moment all the ke
[11:55] <MinceR> (did my message get cut off?)
[11:56] <Jucato> yes it was cutoff
[11:56] <MinceR> where?
[11:56] <chijin> at which moment all the ke
[11:58] <madmax> !dialup
[11:58] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[11:58] <MinceR> -- at which moment all the keys are played back
[11:58] <MinceR> (that's probably the strangest thing about it)
[11:59] <Jucato> you could probably as around in #ubuntu-effects if some people are experiencing the same thing... I vaguely remember something like that last month
[11:59] <alexicon> morning people
[11:59] <alexicon> when you do a usermod, how do you force the update of that? do you have to logout/in?
[12:00] <alexicon> or is there a way around that
[12:01] <alexicon> MinceR: i get the same issue on both my beryl installations, sometimes my volume taskbar icon flies out too... sometimes they all stay in @_@ im sure someones working on it
[12:01] <alexicon> i dont have the issues with it messing up X however *_*
[12:01] <MinceR> i'm not too worried about those, i'm worried about the keyboard issue
[12:01] <alexicon> nod
[12:02] <alexicon> are you on nvidia or ati MinceR
[12:02] <alexicon> anyone know about usermod?
[12:02] <alexicon> and while im about :P anyone know about apache(/rails)
[12:03] <MinceR> nvidia
[12:04] <alexicon> MinceR: what do you mean when you quit all the keys are played back
[12:05] <MinceR> what i perceived is that i tried to open terminals with a key bound to do it and nothing happened; when i quit adept_notifier, they began to start
[12:05] <MinceR> i assume this is due to the keys being replayed as nothing happened before
[12:05] <alexicon> ok so it locks the system then does the executions after its freed up again
[12:05] <alexicon> but why the lock eh..
[12:06] <alexicon> hrmm
[12:06] <alexicon> did you change much of the beryl-manager settings MinceR?
[12:06] <MinceR> note that even ctrl+alt+backspace was ignored beforehand
[12:06] <MinceR> i probably changed lots of them
[12:07] <IR8100> Hey everyone, coud
[12:07] <MinceR> (i didn't wait till it could have effect after closing adept_notifier since the many terminals starting slowed down the system)
[12:07] <IR8100> could anyone tell me how to add a new wireless connection on kubuntu
[12:07] <IR8100> ?
[12:07] <alexicon> you can save your beryl profile and try using a default one and see if you still have those issues
[12:07] <alexicon> i havent been about much lately so dunno if its a common problem or what
[12:07] <IR8100> I know the ssid and the password of the network
[12:08] <alexicon> IR8100: you try using wlassistant?
[12:08] <IR8100> yeah but the network I want to use doesnt apper
[12:08] <IR8100> appear
[12:08] <IR8100> I think its a hidden ssid
[12:08] <alexicon> ok
[12:08] <faidillinger> is there a repository for cinelerra, kino or kdenlive please ???
[12:08] <alexicon> other networks appear?
[12:09] <IR8100> [alexicon]  yeah
[12:09] <alexicon> whoa cinerella? havent used that program in years heh :P
[12:09] <MinceR> alexicon: i think i'll try but it's hard to reproduce
[12:09] <alexicon> IR8100: use iwconfig to set the details
[12:09] <IR8100> anyway this network is hidden in windows too
[12:09] <faidillinger> lol
[12:10] <IR8100> [alexicon]  I used sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "EHU"
[12:10] <IR8100> but I dont know how to set the password there
[12:10] <alexicon> ah
[12:10] <alexicon> its
[12:10] <alexicon> sudo iwconfig eth1 key restricted "KEY"
[12:10] <alexicon> just put the hex value in with no quotes and it should be fine
[12:10] <IR8100> but that would set the key for that essid?
[12:11] <alexicon> yep
[12:11] <alexicon> then run dhclient to connect after you set the password
[12:11] <IR8100> without saying that its for the EHU essid?
[12:11] <IR8100> weird
[12:11] <alexicon> run the essid first
[12:11] <alexicon> if you run iwconfig eth1 essid EHU
[12:11] <alexicon> then do just iwconfig
[12:11] <alexicon> you will see the iface is set to EHU
[12:12] <alexicon> then just set the password and it adds to that configuration
[12:12] <IR8100> ok so, I type iwconfig eth1 essid "EHU" then iwconfig eth1 key restricted "KEY"
[12:12] <IR8100> and that's it?
[12:12] <alexicon> then sudo dhclient
[12:12] <alexicon> that should get you an ip if its using dhcp that is
[12:13] <alexicon> there are some better network managers IR8100
[12:13] <alexicon> kwifimanager is pretty good
[12:13] <chijin> i really like knetworkmanager
[12:13] <IR8100> yeah but I cant get it till I get connected
[12:13] <alexicon> i did too til i broke it lol
[12:13] <IR8100> so I need to set a internet connction first
[12:13] <alexicon> true true IR8100 :P
[12:14] <IR8100> oki
[12:14] <alexicon> better?
[12:14] <IR8100> I will try it then
[12:14] <alexicon> ok
[12:14] <IR8100> one more question
[12:14] <alexicon> yep
[12:15] <IR8100> I know that the key is "EUSKALHERRIKO" how the hell I turn that to hex?
[12:15] <cHr> yo
[12:15] <alexicon> try it in plain text
[12:15] <alexicon> im not sure tho
[12:15] <alexicon> the router should tell you
[12:15] <IR8100> and how would it be in plain text? between quotes too?
[12:15] <alexicon> if you can get on the router you can see the hex key usually
[12:16] <alexicon> well try both with and without the quotes
[12:16] <alexicon> see if it works
[12:16] <alexicon> you can also try iwconfig eth1 key on
[12:16] <alexicon> but it should know you want it on when you configure it :P
[12:16] <alexicon> also
[12:17] <alexicon> if you have the hex value for the routers access point, that could help if the essid is hidden
[12:21] <[WaZ] > hey
[12:21] <[WaZ] > where can I get the PFP signature for KDE 4 repository?
[12:24] <waylandbill> [Waz] : may be on a keyserver.
[12:24] <Jucato> [WaZ] : from the same page where you got the repository from. the kubuntu.org announcement page
[12:24] <[WaZ] > okay ill dig deeper then, ty
[12:27] <[WaZ] > Jucato: euh I son't see any PGP signature link...
[12:28] <Jucato> [WaZ] : which page are you looking at?
[12:28] <[WaZ] > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php
[12:29] <Jucato> ah.
[12:30] <Jucato> [WaZ] : use the key from this page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[12:30] <[WaZ] > ty
[12:49] <XYTTY> hi
[12:49] <mjungo> I'm stuggeling to get a sama share to make it writable. I'm reading doumentation trying out things but its is not changing.
[12:50] <mjungo> Where is the best place to go to get help with that. Uning kuuntu 10.6
[12:52] <Orange1> whats cmd to find out my videocard?
[12:54] <menisk> Should the hotkey Shift+Backspace be ending my seesion, and how do I change the hotkey?
[12:54] <nomad111> does any1 the name of the package containing windows fonts
[12:54] <LinuxWorld> anyone know where to get automatix
[12:54] <LinuxWorld> their website is offline
[12:54] <eeos> hi everybody
[12:55] <Orange1> LinuxWorld: their website goes down alot... get it when its back up
[12:55] <Orange1> !automatrix | LinuxWorld
[12:55] <ubotu> LinuxWorld: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:55] <LinuxWorld> do you have it
[12:55] <Orange1> LinuxWorld: i do not
[12:56] <eeos> how do you switch on the php debugger in php.ini on kubuntu?
[12:56] <menisk> How do I edit hotkeys?
[12:57] <menisk> Ah, found it.
[12:57] <nomad111> !font
[12:57] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:58] <LinuxWorld> automatix is great tool and simplifies linux for ordinary users...my friends have best experiences with it----anyways thank you for kind help
[12:58] <menisk> Should Shift + Backpace end my session? It seams to but isn't in the hotkey list.
[12:59] <menisk> seems*
[12:59] <LinuxWorld> had the hope that someone could send me the file, but ok ;-S
[01:00] <menisk> Should Shift + Backpace end my session? It seems to but isn't in the hotkey list
[01:07] <alexicon> for ubuntu is the apache configuration at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[01:08] <chijin> yes
[01:10] <alexicon> ty
[01:13] <ubuntu> hi
[01:22] <ubuntu__> will i run into problems using a 20+ gig directory on a fat partition?
[01:23] <waylandbill> ubuntu__: directory should be okay. A single file can't be over 4 gig.
[01:24] <ubuntu__> thanks
[01:30] <JuJuBee> Can anybody direct me to a good ubuntu how-to on setting up nis?  I wish to start using a server for user accounts rather than creating them on workstation.
[01:44] <IR8100> Hey
[01:45] <Arkaitz> Hey
[01:45] <Arkaitz> Someone could tell me from where I can download the ubuntu-desktop for kubuntu?
[01:45] <Arkaitz> (I cannot do it from Kubuntu)
[01:46] <Arkaitz> so I would like to download the package in windows, save it to a flash drive
[01:46] <Arkaitz> and then Install it on kubuntu
[01:46] <Arkaitz> but I dont know where to get it
[01:46] <waylandbill> Arkaitz: this may help: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[01:47] <shadowhywind> hay all
[01:47] <ubuntu> test test, this is a test
[01:47] <aspedia> I have an USB Headset from logitech pluged in
[01:48] <waylandbill> ubuntu: it failed. ;-)
[01:48] <aspedia> but I have no sound on headset
[01:48] <shadowhywind> tar'ing something and untarring it in windows wills screw up the files correct?
[01:48] <aspedia> its found correctly when I do lsusb
[01:48] <aspedia> can someone help?
[01:49] <Arkaitz> [waylandbill]  I told you I was using windows right now, I CANNOT use Kubuntu (It doesnt connect to the internet I dont Know why)
[01:52] <fyrmedic> How do I set up wlan0 to access an ad-hoc network?
[01:52] <fyrmedic> I tried using swscanner and Wireless lan manager without success
[01:53] <fyrmedic> How do I set up wlan0 to access an ad-hoc network?
[01:54] <evoc> today I try to mount /dev/brain but no device is found
[01:56] <bartist> hi all
[01:56] <bartist> i can't login in kde
[01:56] <bartist> i can in console
[01:56] <bartist> i wish to copy my home folder to my ipod to re-install
[01:57] <bartist> i type: copy /home/'username' /media/ipod/backup
[01:57] <bartist> but it does not copy!!
[02:08] <dystopianray> has anyone tried running 'tome' in edgy? it doesn't work here, it creates 7 windows and then doesn't do anything
[02:20] <ml--> is there a keyboard combination for "show desktop"?
[02:22] <Jucato> ml--: Ctrl+Alt+D
[02:22] <Jucato> you can change it in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:24] <PhinnFort> how can i see what status a program returns (0, 1, 20, etc.)?
[02:27] <PhinnFort> !paste
[02:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:38] <Ryiel> !utf-8
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Ryiel> !locales
[02:38] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:39] <Owean> is there any metapackage depending on all the necessary codecs for watching movies?
[02:40] <PhinnFort> !divx
[02:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:43] <hayden_> how do i change from using the gdm to the kdm
[02:46] <AniHatzis> Kubuntu 6.10: Settings > System Admin > User Management (User Account Editor). Then click on "Administration Mode". Screen gets empty, but I'm not prompted to enter su password (as I'm used from other admin dialogs). Anyone has the same problem?
[02:48] <eilker> !server
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[02:53] <PhinnFort> !client
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about client - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <bxnp> could somebody test a website for me cause this website breaks my system, i have to do a hard reboot
[02:56] <PhinnFort> bxnp: bring it on
[02:56] <waylandbill> :)
[02:57] <PhinnFort> opera shall konquer the earth
[02:57] <PhinnFort> or something
[02:57] <bxnp> http://www.daniel3d.com/pepeland/misc/3dstuff/ilum_normal/%5Bpepeland%5D-iluminating_with_normal_nodes.htm
[02:57] <bxnp> you have to wacht the tutorial PhinnFort
[02:57] <bxnp> its a blender tutorial, but what happends with your system
[02:57] <Jucato> might want to also ask #khtml people to test
[02:57] <PhinnFort> bxnp: just have to load up opera first
[02:58] <bxnp> good cause i allso use opera
[02:58] <PhinnFort> is it flash?
[02:58] <bxnp> yes
[02:58] <PhinnFort> ah...
[02:58] <PhinnFort> what version of flash do you have?
[02:58] <bxnp> but i never had problems with flash
[02:58] <bxnp> the lastest PhinnFort
[02:58] <PhinnFort> oki
[02:58] <bxnp> you have to completely watch the tutorial and see what happens
[02:59] <PhinnFort> yaoki
[02:59] <PhinnFort> my computer is getting a bit laggy, but I think that has with the fact that  i'm installing stuff...
[03:00] <bxnp> well my system became nearly at the end of the tutorials to a crawling,. and my hd starts spinning
[03:00] <PhinnFort> can ijust skip to the end
[03:00] <bxnp> no
[03:00] <PhinnFort> ?
[03:00] <PhinnFort> ok
[03:00] <bxnp> watch it fully
[03:00] <bxnp> besides that its fun, maybe you want to use blender one day
[03:01] <Jucato> blender is cool
[03:01] <Jucato> it's what got me introduced to Linux :)
[03:01] <Jucato> even though to this date I haven't really used it much lol
[03:01] <bxnp> lol, same overhere
[03:01] <bxnp> and PhinnFort
[03:01] <PhinnFort> yeah
[03:02] <bxnp> did you watch it
[03:02] <PhinnFort> :D
[03:02] <PhinnFort> i'm watching it now
[03:02] <bxnp> no he is a new one
[03:02] <PhinnFort> kinda wants me to pick up blender again
[03:02] <bxnp> he is a very famous animatior
[03:02] <PhinnFort> *makes me want
[03:02] <bxnp> and he is testing blender a bit
[03:02] <CarinArr> blender schlender
[03:03] <Jucato> who's a very famous animatior?
[03:03] <PhinnFort> me?
[03:03] <PhinnFort> i've finished the tutorial, and nothing happened
[03:03] <Jucato> really?! wow
[03:03] <PhinnFort> i'm kidding
[03:03] <PhinnFort> i think bxnp misunderstood what i meant;)
[03:03] <PhinnFort> but the tutorial didn't do any harm
[03:03] <bigdad1e> can someone in here help me with fixing/building a website?
[03:04] <bxnp> oke, well then its a local problem i guess
[03:04] <bxnp> wich kubuntu version are you using
[03:04] <PhinnFort> and i'm even running lots of stupid programs (for testing) in the bg, like firefox and azureus
[03:04] <PhinnFort> 7.04
[03:04] <PhinnFort> or whatever feisty is
[03:04] <bxnp> oke i am at 6.10
[03:04] <PF-Away> but now i'm going to eat dinner
[03:04] <PF-Away> what version of opera?
[03:04] <PF-Away> 9.10?
[03:05] <Erunno> Hi all, I'm currently fighting with KDevelop's automatic indentation. It keeps ignoring my customized settings in the project options.
[03:05] <Erunno>  It seems only to work with the indentation settings under "Extras". Any possible solutions to this problem ?
[03:06] <CarinArr> i've used custom settings before Erunno
[03:06] <CarinArr> never had any problems as far as i can remember
[03:06] <CarinArr> tho this is a while ago, i don't use kdevelop anymore
[03:07] <bigdad1e> what is a good program to build websites?
[03:07] <bxnp> bigdad1e: use quanta
[03:07] <starter> hello, please tell me how to turn off the bouncing-icon effect when I click to activate any icon? I think I checked every option in the system settings
[03:07] <bxnp> bigdad1e: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[03:08] <bxnp> you can aptitude install quanta bigdad1e
[03:08] <bigdad1e> already done
[03:08] <bigdad1e> lol
[03:09] <Erunno> I'm also getting a "Folder does not exist or is not readable" error message whenever I open the project settings.
[03:09] <bxnp> oke and what do you think of it bigdad1e
[03:09] <jhutchins> starter: It's something like startup notification.
[03:09] <Erunno> Although I'm pretty sure that both things don't apply (it sure is readable and does exist :P )
[03:09] <bigdad1e> bxnp: its downloading now and installing
[03:09] <sampan> starter  hit alt-F2  ... type "kcontrol" (without quotes), then under appearance & themes find "launch feedback" and put it to "no busy cursor"
[03:10] <starter> sampan, thanks!
[03:10] <jhutchins> Erunno: You might check in #kde - that's not a kubuntu specific problem.
[03:10] <sampan> starter  you're welcome -- that bugged me for hours too until i found it :D
[03:10] <bxnp> did you use apt-get or aptitude
[03:10] <mastercad> moin
[03:10] <Erunno> jhutchins: Will do.
[03:11] <jhutchins> sampan: Thanks, been too long since my initial setup.
[03:11] <bigdad1e> bxnp: it looks relitively simple. thank you
[03:11] <Jucato> Erunno: or #kdevelop
[03:11] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, for a live cd demo of beryl, sabayon isn't bad (sorry for the heresy :)
[03:11] <Erunno> Jucato: Kdevelop seems to be in some kind of statis.
[03:11] <bxnp> its a very powerfull webbuilder bigdad1e
[03:11] <sampan> jhutchins  i had the same problem when i upgraded -- changed it on dapper and then went months and forgot how to turn it off when i upgraded to edgy -- such an annoying thing and so hard to find!
[03:12] <starter> ah damnit I thought the option might be erased from the kubuntu system settings :)
[03:12] <starter> thanks again!
[03:12] <starter> stay well.
[03:13] <gissi> Good day all
[03:14] <gissi> Did anyone experienced a problem with Amarok on Feisty? When I add anything to the playlist it hangs
[03:17] <bigdad1e> bxnp: thanks works like a charm
[03:19] <bxnp> cool, and now tell me bigdad1e what kind off website are you going to make, is it going to be the next youtube :)
[03:20] <Jucato> !away > NSCAD_Nathan
[03:21] <bigdad1e> bxnp: no its something for my dad to sell his paintings. i already have it up but its shitty. www.normscustompaintings.com is what i did free hand but i think using somehting like this would make it easier and faster for me
[03:21] <hak5fan> hi does anyone know the php function/command used to redirect to a html page? Maybe someone knows of a better place to ask?
[03:22] <bigdad1e> bxnp: you can tell me how shitty it is. lol thats with maybe 2 days of learning html under my belt
[03:22] <bxnp> bigdad1e: why dont you use a system for that
[03:22] <bxnp> there are enough open source solution for selling goods on the web
[03:22] <bigdad1e> bxnp: ya but i wanted something that i could call mine you know?
[03:23] <bxnp> well you could then write your own template
[03:23] <bigdad1e> bxnp: ebay is too simple for me
[03:23] <bxnp> to make it yours
[03:23] <bigdad1e> if i do something like ebay i dont feel like i earned the money bc it takes a few mins to do that
[03:23] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: how about joomla?
[03:23] <PF-Away> !joomla
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <PF-Away> !mambo
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mambo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome to the american dream - earning money for doing nothing :D
[03:24] <bigdad1e> PF-away: whats joomla?
[03:24] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: it's a cms
[03:24] <PF-Away> Content Management System
[03:25] <PF-Away> with shopping-cart modules and everything else you might need
[03:25] <PF-Away> http://www.joomla.org/
[03:25] <bigdad1e> PF-away: ya?
[03:25] <bigdad1e> PF-away: free open source app?
[03:25] <PF-Away> yup
[03:25] <PF-Away> their slogan is "Because Open Source Matters", or something like that
[03:25] <bigdad1e> PF-away: simple?
[03:25] <PF-Away> yeah
[03:25] <PF-Away> clicky-clicky interface
[03:26] <PF-Away> takes maybe 5-minutes to get accustomed to, and then you're set to go
[03:26] <bigdad1e> PF-away: wow
[03:26] <resident_> !beryl
[03:26] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:26] <bigdad1e> PF-away: how do i install?
[03:27] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: it's php, just upload
[03:27] <PF-Away> and run the setup scripts
[03:27] <bigdad1e> how do i do the scripts?
[03:27] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: just upload them to your webserver
[03:27] <bigdad1e> ok
[03:28] <bigdad1e> perfect
[03:28] <blue|palm> I recently bought an hdd enclosure and installed a 300GB in it, and i first ran it on windows. In ubuntu however it is automatically mounted as a read only device... how can i solve this?
[03:28] <blue|palm> in *kubuntu
[03:28] <PF-Away> blue|palm: is it ntfs?
[03:28] <PF-Away> !ntfs
[03:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:28] <PF-Away> !ntfs-3g
[03:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:28] <blue|palm> PF-Away: hmmm do you know if i can check it in any way?
[03:28] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I used the default formatting
[03:28] <PF-Away> !ntfs-3g | blue|palm
[03:28] <ubotu> blue|palm: please see above
[03:29] <PF-Away> blue|palm: did you format it in windows or kubuntu?
[03:29] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I used the default formatting
[03:29] <PF-Away> blue|palm: in windows or kubuntu? or didn't you format it at all?
[03:30] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I didnt format it, i used the default one that the internal drive i bought came with
[03:30] <PF-Away> ah, straight from the manufacturer
[03:30] <blue|palm> PF-Away: yes :)
[03:30] <PF-Away> probably ntfs
[03:30] <PF-Away> ;)
[03:30] <PF-Away> please see the link from ubotu a bit up
[03:30] <PF-Away> about ntfs-3f
[03:30] <PF-Away> *ntfs-3g
[03:30] <blue|palm> PF-Away: its a data drive... so I hope it will be safe using that driver :)
[03:31] <PF-Away> blue|palm: ntfs-3g is probably safer than xfs
[03:31] <bigdad1e> PF-Away: where are you from? if i can ask
[03:31] <PF-Away> which is what i use for my /home;)
[03:31] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: norway
[03:31] <bigdad1e> PF-Away: no one really from the U.S uses linux is what im seeing
[03:31] <blue|palm> PF-Away: isnt xfs a seperate filesystem though?
[03:32] <PF-Away> blue|palm: yup
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i resent that :P
[03:32] <blue|palm> PF-Away: why do you use it over ext?
[03:32] <bigdad1e> what?
[03:32] <PF-Away> but what i mean is that the linux driver for ntfs-3g is safer than the xfs one
[03:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm a US-Dweller using linux
[03:32] <bigdad1e> why?
[03:32] <PF-Away> blue|palm: it was faster when i set up my disks some years ago
[03:32] <bigdad1e> what part?
[03:32] <PF-Away> in gentoo
[03:32] <bigdad1e> your the first ive seen yet
[03:33] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I see, I heard Reiser v4 is the fastest, but i have no idea how to set it up
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> somewhere between chicago and toledo
[03:33] <PF-Away> blue|palm: it isn't that fast
[03:33] <PF-Away> blue|palm: ext3 actually owns it in most areas
[03:33] <blue|palm> PF-Away: Oh
[03:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm doing my bit to convert people
[03:33] <PF-Away> like deleting files, etc. (if i remember correctly)
[03:33] <bigdad1e> lol im where between georga and cuba can you guess where? lmao
[03:33] <bigdad1e> same here
[03:33] <blue|palm> PF-Away: im using ext3 atm till ext4 comes out, its good enough for me I suppose...
[03:34] <PF-Away> blue|palm: if i did it today, i would have ext3 all over
[03:34] <PF-Away> no reason to use ext4, afaik, if you don't have enormous disks
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: I have enourmous disks
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: 1.5 TB
[03:34] <PF-Away> 100's of tera?
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: lol no
[03:34] <PF-Away> ah, that's nothing;)
[03:34] <blue|palm> PF-Away: haha
[03:35] <PF-Away> i think ext4 is more of an answer to zfs
[03:35] <blue|palm> PF-Away: hmm That would be some serious server needing 100's of tera though
[03:35] <gissi> guys, found the problem, the MP3 support was missing, working Ok now. Question: Should I fill a bug for this? Amarok hangs when adding a MP3 to playlist without MP3 support
[03:35] <bigdad1e> what is the point of having that much memory?
[03:35] <PF-Away> hard-drive space
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[03:35] <Daisuke_Ido> boca raton?  west palm beach?
[03:35] <PF-Away> blue|palm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[03:35] <bigdad1e> lol
[03:35] <bigdad1e> wpb
[03:36] <blue|palm> has anybody got kfuseiso working?
[03:36] <blue|palm> it refuses to work
[03:36] <bigdad1e> how did u find that out?
[03:37] <resident_> Guys, i installed beryl but it does not run, everytime i select beryl as window manager it switches back to kwin...
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> and the point of having that much storage space is simple.  every musical recording.  ever. :)
[03:37] <resident_> any clue?
[03:37] <Daisuke_Ido> resident_: ati or nvidia?
[03:37] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[03:37] <resident_> ati
[03:37] <PF-Away> resident_: run it in a konsole
[03:37] <PF-Away> it's probably just crashing
[03:37] <bigdad1e> ati
[03:37] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: ati's drivers are pathetic :)
[03:37] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: but you will be able to get it working
[03:38] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: with shocking performance however
[03:38] <ForgeAus> it?
[03:38] <bigdad1e> ive been trying to get my ati working for a week now and just gave up
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Hello
[03:38] <blue|palm> has anybody got kfuseiso to work
[03:38] <ForgeAus> I wasn't able to get beryl working with my radeon 9600 AIO AGP card
[03:38] <blue|palm> has anybody got fuse to work in kubuntu?
[03:39] <ForgeAus> I don't use fuse for iso's in kubuntu
[03:39] <ForgeAus> (note theres also theres kiso)
[03:39] <blue|palm> ForgeAus: what do you use then? pls tell
[03:39] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: do you know how to get it working? my ati vga?
[03:39] <PF-Away> i use fuse for bombs
[03:39] <blue|palm> ForgeAus: thanks
[03:39] <PF-Away> !ati
[03:39] <ForgeAus> iso:/ kioslave
[03:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:39] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: well get the driver working first
[03:39] <PF-Away> !beryl
[03:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:39] <resident_> PF-Away:
[03:39] <resident_> [14:49]  <[Mr_T] > inter-crosse
[03:39] <resident_> [14:49]  <[Mr_T] > jatszom
[03:39] <ScarFreewill> i took away the file menu in konqueror how to i get it back :P
[03:39] <resident_> damn
[03:39] <PF-Away> wtf is Mr_T?
[03:39] <PF-Away> :P
[03:40] <ForgeAus> Scar? you took it away?
[03:40] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: its working i just can get past the kubuntu loading/boot screen on start up
[03:40] <resident_> sorry... wrong paste, it says: checking for xcomposite extensions: failed
[03:40] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: thats a driver issue
[03:40] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: i've tried everything
[03:40] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: i was in your shoes once
[03:40] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: follow that driver guide
[03:40] <blue|palm> !ati
[03:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:40] <ForgeAus> resident for ati turn composite off in xorg.conf
[03:40] <blue|palm> your xorg.conf could be messed up too
[03:40] <bigdad1e> that did what it could didnt get it working lol
[03:41] <ForgeAus> I think its just a simple line like option "composite "Disable
[03:41] <resident_> ForgeAus: what should i look for?
[03:41] <ForgeAus> its in the howto
[03:41] <resident_> oh, ok
[03:42] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: how do i find out if my xorg.conf file is corrupted?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> bigdad1e corrupted?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> it should be just a text file
[03:43] <ForgeAus> you READ it
[03:43] <bigdad1e> blue|palm: well messed up
[03:43] <bigdad1e> kate didnt open it lol so its not there
[03:43] <PF-Away> !paste
[03:43] <ForgeAus> if somethings added or missing you might need to fix it
[03:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:43] <ForgeAus> (if you have a kubuntu live cd you might want to compare it?)
[03:43] <bigdad1e> the file opened with nothing in it
[03:43] <ForgeAus> ahh then somethings wrong
[03:43] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: go to a terminal
[03:43] <bigdad1e> im in it
[03:44] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: use recovery mode from bootup if you have to
[03:44] <blue|palm> bigdad1e: then type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <blue|palm> it will give you a wizard and you can select your defaults again
[03:44] <blue|palm> The follow the ati driver guide
[03:44] <resident_> ForgeAus: You mean this one? Option  "Composite" "0"
[03:45] <bigdad1e> why can't it find my vga?
[03:48] <ForgeAus> if ext4 is backward-compatible with ext3 and ext3 is backward compatible with ext2 then does that mean ext4 is backward compatible to ext2?
[03:51] <Skreech> has anyone used mercurial?
[03:52] <Skreech> !mercurial
[03:52] <ubotu> mercurial: Scalable distributed version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 311 kB, installed size 1572 kB
[03:53] <enry> hi
[03:54] <kubuntu> hi
[03:55] <fdmeyer> ?
[03:55] <VJun> how to display chinese word in kubuntu ?
[03:56] <fdmeyer> Is Palm Z22 compatible with Kpilot?
[03:56] <bigdad1e> mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri  is the command i have to do but it says permission denied. what do i do?
[03:57] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: try
[03:57] <PF-Away> bigdad1e: put "sudo" in front of it
[03:57] <Tm_T> !skype
[03:57] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:57] <PF-Away> !ch
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <PF-Away> !chinese
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <bigdad1e> thats right didnt even look
[03:58] <fdmeyer> Not working - get "Unable to read sysem information from pilot"
[03:59] <PF-Away> !palm
[03:59] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[03:59] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: have you followed that one?
[03:59] <fdmeyer> Will try - thanks
[03:59] <PF-Away> np
[04:01] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: looks like you maybe have to press sync on the palm before you open kpilot
[04:01] <PF-Away> fdmeyer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/3595
[04:02] <fdmeyer> Thanks
[04:03] <bigdad1e> ok i did my ati card its working but now i cant see maybe an inch of my screen to the left and 1/4 of it at the top
[04:03] <fdmeyer> Looks like pressing Sync first does the trick
[04:04] <PF-Away> cool
[04:04] <bigdad1e> !ati
[04:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <pollyo> Hello
[04:05] <pollyo> Anyone here familiar with copying cd's?
[04:06] <PF-Away> pollyo: yeah
[04:06] <PF-Away> use k4b
[04:06] <PF-Away> *k3b
[04:06] <pollyo> PF-Away: I tried it but it bombed on me.
[04:06] <CarinArr> k3b bombed?
[04:06] <PF-Away> pollyo: did you set it up first?
[04:06] <CarinArr> i haven't managed to crash it once
[04:06] <PF-Away> k3b pwnz
[04:06] <pollyo> CarinArr: It didn't but the writing failed.
[04:06] <PF-Away> !worksforme
[04:06] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:07] <PF-Away> pollyo: did you try with another CD?
[04:07] <PF-Away> i once thought my cdrecord was b0rked, but it was only a faulty cd
[04:07] <pollyo> PF-Away: I was able to write a cd using files.
[04:07] <pollyo> PF-Away: When I went to copy from one drive to another it wouldn't work.
[04:07] <PF-Away> pollyo: are they on the same cable?
[04:07] <PF-Away> then it won't work, no matter what program you use
[04:07] <PF-Away> but i think you can set k3b to copy it to disk, then write
[04:07] <PF-Away> that would work
[04:08] <pollyo> PF-Away: Yes they are on the same cable.
[04:08] <bxnp> bigdad1e: how is quanta working
[04:08] <PF-Away> pollyo: then you can't copy directly
[04:08] <CarinArr> you can create temporary copy first, that's normaly recommended anyway
[04:08] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok.  So copy it to file then copy it to disk?
[04:08] <PF-Away> hook off "on the fly" or something
[04:09] <bigdad1e> perfect
[04:09] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok.  Will that preserve the tracks or will it make it all one track?
[04:09] <PF-Away> pollyo: it will make an exact cioy
[04:09] <PF-Away> *copy
[04:09] <tcleval>  hi, i want to format my /dev/hdd (/dev/dvdrw) as ext3 to use it as a fake-HD  for backups, but it says i cant write to it, i am as root and  I set it to rw, but i cant write to it with fdisk/cfdisk, any solution?  heeeeeeeeeellp please
[04:09] <bigdad1e> bxnp: i got my vga working but part of my screen is missing
[04:09] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok.  Thanks.  I'll go give it a try...
[04:09] <pollyo> BRB
[04:10] <bxnp> oh, that is not good,
[04:10] <bigdad1e> not at all
[04:10] <bxnp> did it just happened or did you already had problems with your screen bigdad1e
[04:10] <bigdad1e> just now
[04:10] <bigdad1e> theres atleast an inch to the left i cant see
[04:11] <tdn> I want to connect to a wireless network that is using WPA/PSK from Kubuntu. How do I do thsi?
[04:11] <bxnp> but why dot you restart
[04:11] <bxnp> the xserver
[04:12] <bigdad1e> i picked the right resolution in the wizard 1440*900
[04:12] <bxnp> tdn: install knetworkmanager
[04:12] <pollyo> PF-Away: If I have two controllers and put the drives on different cables will the two drive method work for the most part?
[04:12] <bxnp> and its as easy like doing it on windows
[04:12] <tdn> bxnp, done.
[04:12] <bxnp> well click on the network you want to connect too
[04:12] <PF-Away> pollyo: probably
[04:12] <bigdad1e> bxnp: brb
[04:13] <bxnp> and if everything works its asking you to provide the passprase/password tdn
[04:13] <pollyo> PF-Away: It is reading the track information now.  I'll know in a few minutes if it is going to work.
[04:13] <PF-Away> cool
[04:13] <bxnp> the knetworkmanager is in your taskbar
[04:13] <bxnp> if you start it
[04:14] <PF-Away> if you don't start it, it might not be there
[04:14] <bxnp> tdn: is it working
[04:15] <bxnp> you have to check that you want to use encryption
[04:15] <bxnp> and there you get options about what kind of encryption,
[04:15] <tdn> bxnp, no. I cannot see any networks in it.
[04:16] <bxnp> what does it says
[04:16] <bxnp> is your network card working and does it support wpa
[04:16] <bigdad1e> bxnp:  how do i get back into the wizard for my vga?
[04:16] <tdn> bxnp, do I need wpagui or wpasupplicant to be installed?
[04:17] <tdn> bxnp, yes it is, and yes it does.
[04:17] <pollyo> PF-AWAY: It is asking to Load / Eject / Force?  Any suggestions  Should I try Load?
[04:17] <bxnp> oke is wireless networking enabled
[04:17] <bxnp> in knetworkmanager
[04:17] <PF-Away> pollyo: eject, put in an empty cd, load, and wait
[04:17] <tdn> bxnp, I think so. I am online from an open WLAN right now.
[04:17] <tdn> bxnp, 02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[04:18] <Berto> my kde panel is frozen.  how do i restart it?
[04:18] <bxnp> but in knetworkmanager is it enabled
[04:18] <tdn> bxnp, yes. It is enabled in knetworkmanager.
[04:18] <pollyo> PF-Away: Uggg....
[04:18] <PF-Away> Berto: alt+f2, and then "killall kicker"
[04:18] <bxnp> oke, and it does not show anything
[04:18] <PF-Away> Berto: or hit ctrl+alt+esc and click on it
[04:18] <Berto> PF-Away, my f-keys are broken, but i have a terminal anyway... killall kicker doesn't work
[04:18] <PF-Away> Berto: ctrl+alt+esc
[04:18] <Berto> PF-Away, ok control alt escape worked, didn't know about that.  it's not yet rebooting kicker tho!
[04:19] <Berto> PF-Away, isn't there a service that should restart?
[04:19] <PF-Away> Berto: "kicker"
[04:19] <PF-Away> alt+f2, kicker
[04:19] <pollyo> PF-Away: cdrecord return an unknown error (code 255) "f you are running an unpathced cdrecord version and this error also occurs with high uality media and the k3b faq does not help you pleas include the debugging output in your problem report."
[04:19] <PF-Away> have you run the k3b setup thingy?
[04:19] <Berto> PF-Away, thanks.  something is seriously wrong with my kicker it seems. had to killall -9 kicker, now it restarts as a dead blank bar
[04:20] <tdn> bxnp, what to do?
[04:20] <pollyo> PF-Away: It seems to work using files though.  Guess I have to dig deeper into the info.  Are you using the stadard cdrecord that is installed in kubuntu?
[04:20] <PF-Away> Berto: probably a bad apple(t)
[04:20] <JuJuBee> Can someone here assist me in getting NIS working?  I installed on server and client (as per doc's on web), but not getting the list of users on client.
[04:20] <pollyo> PF-Away: Is that in one of the drop down menus or a different startup application?
[04:20] <PF-Away> pollyo: cdrecord isn't included in ubuntu any longer
[04:20] <Berto> PF-Away, yeah, how do i configure the applets i have without kicker running?
[04:20] <PF-Away> Berto: look around in .kde/share/apps/kicker
[04:20] <PF-Away> in your home dir
[04:21] <pollyo> PF-Away: Oh...
[04:21] <ubuntu> hi
[04:21] <Berto> PF-Away, nothing.  oh well, i'll mess with it later, no time to BS with garbage software today
[04:21] <bxnp> strange, i have this http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/knet.png at my knetworkmanager
[04:21] <ubuntu> algun spaol??
[04:21] <PF-Away> Berto: you could just delete the whole folder to get a plain kicker
[04:22] <PF-Away> !es
[04:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:22] <pollyo> PF-Away: ARe you asking if I did Settings/ K3bSetup ?
[04:22] <PF-Away> PF-Away: yeah
[04:22] <ubuntu> thx
[04:22] <PF-Away> pollyo: i think ubuntu uses the cdrecord replacement "wodim"
[04:22] <pollyo> PF-Away: I looked at it but wasn't sure if I needed to change anything.
[04:23] <PF-Away> pollyo: it should do stuff automagically
[04:23] <PF-Away> pollyo: also, try burning as root
[04:23] <PF-Away> i remember i had problems burning as a normal user under gentoo
[04:23] <pollyo> PF-Away: Should Burning group be checked or unchecked.  It is unchecked by default.
[04:23] <PF-Away> just leave it at defaults
[04:24] <pollyo> PF-Away: How do I start it as root?  sudo k3b ?
[04:24] <CarinArr> thik so
[04:24] <PF-Away> kdesu k3b
[04:24] <PF-Away> much prettier;)
[04:25] <waylandbill> k3b will not want to burn dvds as root
[04:25] <PF-Away> afaik, 255 is a permissions error
[04:25] <PF-Away> waylandbill: it does here
[04:25] <Ace2016> Hi all
[04:25] <Ace2016> adept says that there is a new version of kubuntu available
[04:25] <Ace2016> should i update now?
[04:25] <PF-Away> it won't burn dvd's as a normal user, though
[04:25] <Ace2016> isn't it still in beta?
[04:25] <waylandbill> hmm. I thought growisofs didn't want root.
[04:25] <PF-Away> Ace2016: it's still beta
[04:25] <PF-Away> !feisty
[04:25] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:26] <pollyo> PF-Away: I noticed they have version 1 of K3b on the website.  Have you looked at it?
[04:26] <PF-Away> waylandbill: i've copied dvd's running k3b in root, because i got error 255 as a normal user
[04:26] <Ace2016> PF-Away: any idea why adept's update wizard says that there is a new version? and asks me to click if i want to upgrade?
[04:26] <PF-Away> pollyo: no
[04:26] <PF-Away> Ace2016: because you can if you want to beta test;)
[04:26] <PF-Away> probably
[04:26] <waylandbill> PF-Away: it should burn dvds as normal user when set up correctly.
[04:26] <pollyo> PF-Away: Perhaps that is the same problem I am having with the CD copy.  It was a 255 error.
[04:26] <romeo> where can i find "software resources" in Kubuntu?
[04:27] <PF-Away> pollyo: that was what i was thinking;)
[04:27] <Ace2016> i mean
[04:27] <pollyo> waylandbill: Did you have to change the burning group to allow it to burn as a non root user?
[04:27] <waylandbill> what is error 255 btw?
[04:27] <PF-Away> i run feisty, but...
[04:27] <PF-Away> !worksforme
[04:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:27] <waylandbill> pollyo: yes. I used a burning group and added my user to it.
[04:27] <Ace2016> no no no no no no no no no no no no
[04:27] <Ace2016> i clicked it
[04:27] <PF-Away> waylandbill: i think it is related to permssions
[04:27] <Ace2016> and its doing something
[04:27] <Ace2016> and i'm in kde
[04:27] <PF-Away> Ace2016: run;)
[04:28] <pollyo> waylandbill: It is unknown error type.
[04:28] <Ace2016> well its not that abd
[04:28] <Ace2016> bad*
[04:28] <Ace2016> this isn't my computer
[04:28] <pollyo> waylandbill: That is what it reported error 255 to me as.
[04:28] <PF-Away> amarok is sexy
[04:28] <eagles0513875> is there an internet explorer equivilent here in kubuntu
[04:28] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: Konqueror
[04:29] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:29] <PF-Away> K-Menu -> Internet -> Konqueror
[04:29] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:29] <eagles0513875> i really want to avoid going into my windows partition
[04:29] <PF-Away> it is even the default file browser
[04:29] <PF-Away> !ie
[04:29] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[04:29] <eagles0513875> lol i use firefox more than it
[04:29] <PF-Away> !internet_explorer
[04:30] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: you can get internet explorer under ubuntu, too
[04:30] <PF-Away> with Wine
[04:30] <waylandbill> :-O
[04:30] <Ace2016> it said to launch the update tool, what is that?
[04:30] <eagles0513875> how
[04:30] <eagles0513875> how do i do that pf
[04:31] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:31] <pollyo> eagles0513875: You can install ie4linux if you have wine installed.
[04:31] <eagles0513875> ok how do i install it
[04:31] <eagles0513875> i already have wine
[04:31] <chijin> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ies4linux
[04:31] <PF-Away> !ie4linux
[04:31] <PF-Away> !ies4linux
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <arkhers> trke bilen varm
[04:31] <arkhers> ???
[04:31] <PF-Away> !tu
[04:31] <romeo> I am reading a HOWTO that says that I should to to "Software Sources"... Where can i find that in KUBUNTU?
[04:31] <waylandbill> goodness. I wouldn't bother with IE.
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ies4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <eagles0513875> lol ya but my online math homework only works with ie
[04:31] <eagles0513875> which suxs
[04:31] <PF-Away> romeo: it's probably repositories
[04:32] <pollyo> eagles051387: Let me see if I can find you the link.  Do you specifically need internet explorer or would another browser be ok for you?
[04:32] <PF-Away> romeo: go to Adept
[04:32] <eagles0513875> yes i do polly
[04:32] <romeo> PF-Away: ok thanks
[04:32] <PF-Away> !repositories
[04:32] <pollyo> eagles051385: brb
[04:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:32] <waylandbill> why does it need IE? activex or soemthing?
[04:32] <eagles0513875> i guess so
[04:33] <eagles0513875> if i can find a way to contact the site admin ill recommend r and d for linux support
[04:33] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Sometimes you can have an alternate browser tell a site that it's IE and the site will work.
[04:33] <Skreech> !wifi
[04:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:33] <PF-Away> !narrowfi
[04:33] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Go for "Firefox Support" - firefox is used a lot more than linux.
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about narrowfi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Just put ies4linux in google and it should be the first link that comes up.
[04:33] <PF-Away> go for Opera support, Opera is superior
[04:33] <chijin> i use IE for checking what my site looks like in windows
[04:33] <eagles0513875> ive tried but it says taht it has to be ie
[04:34] <eagles0513875> ies or ie4linux
[04:34] <PF-Away> chijin: i honestly don't care what my site looks like in ie;)
[04:34] <pollyo> eagles0513875: with the S ies4linux
[04:34] <PF-Away> it validates in w3c's checker, so it shouldn't look to bad, though
[04:34] <eagles0513875> is it ie4linux or ies4linux poolly
[04:35] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It installes ie5 - ie6 if you want.
[04:35] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:35] <eagles0513875> woot one step closer to getting rid of windows for good lol
[04:35] <pollyo> eagles0513875: With the S  "ies4linux"
[04:35] <PF-Away> http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[04:35] <eagles0513875> i was asking if it was ies4linux or ie4linux
[04:35] <eagles0513875> i thought there was a spelling error
[04:35] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[04:36] <BluesKaj> !IE
[04:36] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[04:36] <PF-Away> but i keep getting "Internal Server Error"
[04:36] <eagles0513875> same pf i tried the 3rd one
[04:36] <chijin> PF-Away: you start caring when people are actually buying your sites :-P
[04:36] <PF-Away> chijin: well, i'm not a professional web-dev
[04:36] <PF-Away> :D
[04:36] <PF-Away> freedom ftw
[04:37] <BluesKaj> !Internet-Explorer
[04:37] <eagles0513875> !internet explorer
[04:37] <pollyo> eagles0513875: I installed it about a week ago.  Let me see if I bookmarked the site.      It's much more searchable, and it doesn't clutter the channel.
[04:37] <PF-Away> Berto: darn xmms;)
[04:37] <Berto> PF-Away, thanks for the control-alt-escape trick though
[04:38] <PF-Away> Berto: np
[04:38] <Berto> PF-Away, yeah i've been using it FOREVER (since it was x11amp) and won't move off.  It doesn't get as much devlopment tho
[04:38] <eagles0513875> im going to c on sourceforge
[04:38] <rysiek|pl> guys, remind me which package needs to be dpkg-reconfigured in order to change the hostname?
[04:38] <Berto> new to kde/ubuntu
[04:38] <PF-Away> Berto: tried amarok?
[04:38] <PF-Away> it's darn sexy
[04:38] <PF-Away> :D
[04:38] <Berto> PF-Away, yeah, too fat
[04:38] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/running-internet-explorer-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[04:38] <chijin> PF-Away: it's pretty much the same, but the fonts are of course different
[04:38] <Berto> PF-Away, and i have my lirc plugin working with xmms so i'm happy
[04:38] <sstchur> are there any add-ons for KMenu that would achieve something similar to the task-oriented/search menu that Suse 10.2 ships with?
[04:38] <PF-Away> chijin: ok, thanks
[04:38] <eagles0513875> ty pf
[04:38] <BluesKaj> sorry, just adding a bit of levity , jhutchins
[04:38] <chijin> PF-Away: also, the images have blue frames
[04:39] <PF-Away> sstchur: the menu is called "kickoff"
[04:39] <chijin> PF-Away: you might want to speficy the border-color for the images
[04:39] <PF-Away> sstchur: i saw some .deb's for it somewhere
[04:39] <CarinArr> i use amarok but for some reason i can't get it to transfer my playlists to the ipod
[04:39] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: no prob, it's just that it's a good resource if you're looking for stuff.
[04:39] <PF-Away> chijin: noted;)
[04:39] <PF-Away> basket pwns
[04:39] <CarinArr> or rather it copies them over but the ipod doesn't recognise them
[04:39] <sstchur> PF-Away: thanks, I'll do some searching
[04:39] <PF-Away> !kickoff
[04:39] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:41] <Frederick> folks after upgrading for feisty my xserver is dead. It reports no screen found and I got a exotic hardware here a mobility radeon 9000
[04:42] <pollyo> eagles0513875: the ies4linux site is loading for me now.
[04:42] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:42] <BluesKaj> why would you want ies4linux ?
[04:43] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: he needs it for his math-homework
[04:43] <PF-Away> maybe mathml or something
[04:43] <pollyo> BluesKaj: If you need to access websites that are specifically designed for ie.
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> !kickoff
[04:43] <PF-Away> where can i find automake 1.6?
[04:43] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:43] <BluesKaj> aha, ...they still exist ?
[04:43] <pollyo> BluesKaj: If you are a web developer and want to view a page in ie versions.
[04:43] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: they do in abundance, unfortunately;)
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ...  i thought there was a package
[04:44] <PF-Away> Daisuke_Ido: i think it is on kde-apps.org
[04:44] <eagles0513875> i think my firefox is busted
[04:44] <PF-Away> eagles0513875: use Konqueror or Opera
[04:44] <BluesKaj> I haven't encountered any in ages, PF-Away
[04:44] <eagles0513875> firefox
[04:44] <pollyo> eagles0513875: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[04:44] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: me neither, but i hear of them every now and then;)
[04:44] <eagles0513875> now trying in konqueror
[04:44] <BluesKaj> yup FF renders well
[04:44] <eagles0513875> in firefox it doesnt load the pg at all
[04:44] <PF-Away> !automake1.6
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake1.6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <eagles0513875> it says taht its done loading the pg
[04:45] <Frederick> is there any command to ask for x configure it self in kubuntu?
[04:45] <eagles0513875> !automake
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <PF-Away> Frederick: X -configure or something
[04:45] <PF-Away> look in the gentoo manual
[04:45] <jhutchins> Frederick:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <comp09> salut
[04:46] <wftl> Salut
[04:46] <fimushka> salut
[04:46] <pollyo> PF-away: Any idea how to rip an iso file from the cd and save it to burn later?
[04:47] <PF-Away> pollyo: use dd
[04:47] <pollyo> PF-away: I have to give this cd back to the guy from the band later today.
[04:47] <PF-Away> dd if=/dev/hdd1 of=isotihngy.iso
[04:47] <PF-Away> replace /dev/hdd1 with your cdrom-drive
[04:48] <pollyo> PF-Away: Thanks.  How do I write it back?  Would I use K3b?
[04:48] <PF-Away> yup
[04:48] <eagles0513875> woot it installing
[04:48] <pollyo> PF-Away: Ok thanks!
[04:48] <PF-Away> write cd-image or somthing
[04:48] <PF-Away> np
[04:48] <eagles0513875> hopefully i dont break something
[04:48] <PF-Away> hey, isn't the sky coming closer?
[04:48] <eagles0513875> how do they get msft stuff to work with linux
[04:49] <eagles0513875> not to mention its getting hard to get hold of msft stuff isnt it
[04:49] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It was an easy setup.  Hope it goes as smooth for you as it did me.
[04:49] <eagles0513875> ill keep uposted polly
[04:49] <miltos> hi ppl:-]
[04:50] <miltos> i want beryl to start up every time a start kubuntu...
[04:50] <waylandbill> !autostart | miltos
[04:50] <ubotu> miltos: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[04:50] <eagles0513875> polly how many things did it have to dl
[04:51] <eagles0513875> nm
[04:51] <eagles0513875> polly how do i run it
[04:51] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Depends on how many versions you opted to install.
[04:51] <eagles0513875> i think all 3
[04:51] <eagles0513875> how do i get it to run
[04:51] <PF-Away> how can i get the kde headers?
[04:51] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It put an icon for IE on my KDE desktop
[04:52] <eagles0513875> nice ty
[04:52] <eagles0513875> woot it work
[04:52] <eagles0513875> s
[04:52] <eagles0513875> yay
[04:52] <PF-Away> ;)
[04:52] <eagles0513875> j/w r linux antivirus solutions better than windows ones
[04:53] <Frederick> thanks folks it is fixed
[04:53] <Frederick> how do I change the size of the icons in kde? :p
[04:53] <PF-Away> Frederick: under appearance in the system settings
[04:53] <bxnp> kcontrol Frederick
[04:53] <PF-Away> or kcontrol
[04:53] <PF-Away> i never understood why they replaced kcontrol
[04:54] <PF-Away> in kubuntu
[04:54] <miltos> thanks...i will be back
[04:54] <eagles0513875> polly how do i change my active x settings
[04:55] <pollyo> eagles0513875: I haven't played with that portion.  Wouldn't it be in option under one of the drop down menus in IE?
[04:55] <romeo> !tar
[04:55] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:55] <eagles0513875> i got it polly
[04:55] <Daisuke_Ido> play, now i remember i was able to set kickoff up before, but now it doesn't want to work :\
[04:56] <Daisuke_Ido> err. not sure where the play part came from :(
[04:56] <Owean> how do i compare two dirs?
[04:56] <Owean> in console
[04:56] <Owean> is there anything similar to diff, but for dirs?
[04:57] <Frederick> cool my system is back in order
[04:57] <eagles0513875> anyone know much about ie4linux
[04:58] <eagles0513875> i am having activex issues says the security settings r too high to download them
[04:58] <Frederick> eagles0513875: maybe you couls try wine
[04:58] <Frederick> could
[04:58] <eagles0513875> ? what u mean frederick
[04:58] <Frederick> eagles0513875: maybe the native internet explorer in windows beeing run by wine could work better
[04:59] <eagles0513875> im in kubuntu
[04:59] <eagles0513875> and it automatically runs using wine
[04:59] <eagles0513875> when i click on desktop shortcut
[05:00] <pollyo> eagles0513875: I found this just now: http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/activex-linux.php
[05:00] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:00] <eagles0513875> ty polly
[05:00] <eagles0513875> polly is ur name registered
[05:00] <pollyo> eagles0513875: It discussess thinkgs like .net and the settings for active X and it is specifically discussing ies4linux.
[05:01] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Yes
[05:01] <eagles0513875> may i pm polly
[05:01] <miltos> i add the "beryl-manager" command on kcontrol-autostart and when kde starts i receive the message "The desktop entry file /home/miltos/.kde/Autostart/beryl.desktop has no Type=... entry."
[05:01] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Sure.
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> is there an audio editor better (or at least less ugly) than audacity?
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> miltos: Type=Application
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> except that can't be right
[05:03] <eagles0513875> did u get my pm polly
[05:03] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Did you get my response?
[05:03] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:03] <Skuller> my k3b cant handle mp3...how do i make it do so?
[05:04] <miltos> Daisuke_Ido ...next to beryl-manager?
[05:04] <soulrider> Skuller: theres a pckage you gotta install, let me trya nd remember the name
[05:04] <Skuller> soulrider: sure...help appreciated
[05:04] <pollyo> Skuller: I think you need was it libdcss2 or something like that?
[05:04] <eagles0513875> no polly do /msg nickserv identify and ur password
[05:04] <soulrider> pollyo: thats for playing DVDs
[05:04] <Skuller> pollyo: i have libdvdcss2
[05:04] <eagles0513875> that should log u in
[05:05] <pollyo> Skuller: Sorry.  Got it mixed up.
[05:05] <Skuller> np
[05:05] <soulrider> Skuller: try installing libk3b2-mp3
[05:05] <Skuller> soulrider: roger that...thanks
[05:05] <eagles0513875> did u login polly
[05:06] <pollyo> eagles0513875: Yes.
[05:06] <soulrider> Skuller: i think thats all you need
[05:07] <Skuller> soulrider: thanks...its all sweet now
[05:07] <soulrider> Skuller: cool!
[05:08] <Frederick> wich is the name of the clock applet in kde? so I can add it to the menu bar?
[05:08] <soulrider> Frederick: clock :P
[05:08] <Skuller> lol
[05:09] <Jucato> !changethemes | romeo
[05:09] <ubotu> romeo: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:10] <wftl> Hello all. Possible Feisty/OpenOffice problem. In trying to run OpenOffice on my Kubuntu Feisty system, I get "no suitable windowing system found, exiting."
[05:10] <wftl> This is followed by "** (process:11001): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ..."
[05:10] <wftl> Then it's over. I've found a few entries that suggest loading libstartup-notification0, but that has already been done.
[05:10] <wftl> Ideas?
[05:10] <soulrider> wftl: i think you shoudl ask in #ubuntu+1 thats all fesity there
[05:12] <wftl> soulrider: Sure. I can do that. I'll monitor this to see if any ideas crop up. Thanks.
[05:12] <soulrider> no prob
[05:12] <jhutchins> wftl: Current oo has some serious problems, it crashes on opening documents here.
[05:12] <soulrider> jhutchins: on edgy ?
[05:13] <jhutchins> Mandriva actually.
[05:13] <wftl> jhutchins: I don't even get to open documents. It crashes on startup.
[05:13] <jhutchins> 2007
[05:13] <romeo> How do i istall the KDM theme manager? I got errors when it ried to install it
[05:13] <soulrider> jhutchins: ive had bad experiences with mandriva, at least with the 2006 version
[05:13] <soulrider> i thought it was crap
[05:13] <CarinArr> what errors romeo?
[05:14] <romeo> CarinArr: when i type ./configure it says C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:14] <romeo> in the end
[05:14] <edward_> hi
[05:14] <soulrider> romeo: you trying to compile it yourself ?
[05:14] <soulrider> hi edward_
[05:14] <PF-Away> romeo: you're supposed to already have it installed
[05:14] <CarinArr> romeo: have you installed build-essential?
[05:15] <Hrontore> okay im trying to add a font to my wine fonts folder, how do i know if i have to right folder
[05:15] <romeo> soulrider: I have no idea what i am doing:) i am new to this. I just read on its webpage it said i have todo that, then make, then make install.. so i tried it, didnt work
[05:15] <edward_> I just upgraded to feisty and I have some major problems... is this the right room?
[05:15] <waylandbill> !build
[05:15] <CarinArr> romeo: you can also just install the kdm theme manager using adept
[05:15] <romeo> PF-Away: I checked but i could not find it..
[05:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:15] <eagles0513875> yes it is ed
[05:15] <Hrontore> nm
[05:15] <soulrider> romeo: did you downlaod it from some site or something ?
[05:15] <PF-Away> romeo: it is in system settings
[05:15] <PF-Away> i think
[05:15] <romeo> CarinArr: I dont kow if i have build-essential.. what name to search for?
[05:15] <PF-Away> or at least in kcontrol
[05:15] <soulrider> edward_: you should go to #ubuntu+1
[05:15] <romeo> soulrider: yes.. the source..
[05:15] <waylandbill> edward_: #kubuntu+1
[05:16] <CarinArr> PF-Away: it's not installed by default
[05:16] <edward_> ok well it wont let me log in with the new kernel, only with 2.6.17-10
[05:16] <soulrider> ohh romeo, dont do that mate
[05:16] <PF-Away> CarinArr: it came here by default, afaik
[05:16] <PF-Away> since KDM is themed by default
[05:16] <edward_> it says VFS error cannot load OS on block 0,0 ... something like that
[05:16] <CarinArr> i had to explicitly install it the other day
[05:16] <soulrider> romeo: i think you cna download it from the repos and have it installed automatically, let me check
[05:16] <CarinArr> kdm is installed, the theme manager isn't. at least not on my clean edgy kubuntu install
[05:16] <comp05> FRFRF
[05:16] <soulrider> CarinArr: thats weird
[05:17] <CarinArr> romeo: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[05:17] <edward_> ok i'll try kubuntu+1...
[05:17] <soulrider> edward_: Ubuntu not Kubuntu
[05:17] <CarinArr> romeo: you have to have universe repository enabled
[05:17] <soulrider> CarinArr: i dont think it sin universe =/
[05:17] <romeo> CarinArr: ok thanks i will put it on and check.
[05:17] <CarinArr> soulrider: it is according to the .deb info
[05:18] <soulrider> CarinArr: do this command "sudo aptitude install kdm kdmtheme"
[05:18] <CarinArr> soulrider: i have it installed already
[05:18] <soulrider> i meant romeo, do this command "sudo aptitude install kdm kdmtheme"
[05:18] <soulrider> romeo: that will isntall kdm and kdmtheme
[05:18] <soulrider> romeo: you got this error right after a clean install ?
[05:19] <romeo> soulrider: It says couldnt find any named kdmtheme
[05:19] <soulrider> ok, we can fix that
[05:19] <soulrider> do
[05:19] <Tm_T> !opera
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[05:19] <soulrider> sudo aptitude install kdm
[05:19] <soulrider> that will install just kdm
[05:19] <romeo> yeah i got the kdm installed already
[05:20] <soulrider> what it is that youre trying to install now ?
[05:20] <romeo> The theme manager? I saw it on kde-look.org so i can install themes ?
[05:20] <soulrider> ahh
[05:20] <Jucato> !changethemes | romeo
[05:20] <ubotu> romeo: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:20] <Jucato> (again)
[05:20] <romeo> oh must have missed that Jucato sorry
[05:20] <soulrider> lol, hi Jucato
[05:21] <Jucato> hi soulrider :)
[05:21] <soulrider> how are you ?
[05:21] <CarinArr> why not just install the kdm theme manager...
[05:21] <soulrider> Jucato: do you know if theres some FAQ for newbies explaining how to install software, what repos are and stuff like that ?
[05:22] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[05:22] <soulrider> Jucato: i see theya ll try to install the drivers and stuff from what they get from sites before comming on ITC
[05:22] <Jucato> and the Kubuntu Desktop Guide
[05:22] <Jucato> soulrider:  unfortunately that's a habit carried over from that other OS
[05:22] <jhutchins> !software | soulrider
[05:22] <ubotu> soulrider: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[05:23] <Jucato> to most people, the concept of repositories is too good to be true
[05:23] <soulrider> Jucato: yeah
[05:23] <soulrider> yesterday i explained all about repos to someone
[05:23] <CarinArr> !repositories
[05:23] <soulrider> and he was all shocked! :P
[05:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:23] <Jucato> :)
[05:23] <Skuller> lol
[05:23] <soulrider> Jucato: im gonna see if theres a guide like that for spanish, if theres not im gonna translate it
[05:24] <CarinArr> romeo: look at the above link and follow instructions to enable the universe repository, then do sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[05:24] <jhutchins> There are so many HOWTOs out there that practically still begin with "first download and patch the latest kernel sources".
[05:24] <Jucato> repositories - an online repository (a.k.a. storage) of programs, libraries, and other stuff packaged and tested to run on your system :)
[05:24] <Aw0L> does anyone know how to increase mouse sensitivity (NOT pointer acceleration)?
[05:24] <romeo> CarinArr: i enabled the universe resp, but still didnt work :D
[05:24] <Skuller> imagine a pirate central repo for Mzoft's softs
[05:24] <soulrider> i cant wait til feisty comes out so we dont ahve to explain everyone how to enable multiverse and universe :P
[05:24] <eagles0513875> what u mean skull
[05:24] <CarinArr> romeo: have you done sudo apt-get update?
[05:24] <soulrider> romeo: you need to do sudo aptitude update
[05:24] <jhutchins> romeo: Did you udate?
[05:24] <CarinArr> heh
[05:24] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: is ubuntu's philosophy changing?
[05:24] <jhutchins> ding, ding, ding!
[05:25] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Regarding what?
[05:25] <Daisuke_Ido> regarding proprietary packages (universe and multiverse)
[05:25] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: im almost sure they will be enabled by default
[05:25] <Skuller> eagles0513875: i was just wondering what it would be like if there was a repo for pirated softs in the windows world...piracy would be all you would see
[05:25] <CarinArr> feisty doesn't use universe/multiverse?
[05:25] <romeo> CarinArr, soulrider and jhutchins, do you mean if i updated everything? If so, yes i did.. I updated everything i could update
[05:25] <CarinArr> romeo: no, you have to run "sudo apt-get update" to update the lists from the repositories
[05:25] <Daisuke_Ido> that will be nice though
[05:26] <soulrider> romeo: you need to type "sudo aptitude update" after enabling the repos
[05:26] <Jucato> enabled by default != installed by default
[05:26] <Daisuke_Ido> good point
[05:26] <Jucato> in fact, the mp3 codec in feisty is already in main. but not installed by default
[05:26] <soulrider> oh man, i love ubuntu! :P
[05:26] <Jucato> libxine1-ffmpeg is in main
[05:26] <Owean> how do i compare two dirs in console, is there anything similar to diff, but for dirs?
[05:26] <romeo> Ah! =) this is fun, ok one sec
[05:26] <Jucato> the only reason it's not installed by default is patent issues... (so I've been told)
[05:27] <soulrider> Owean: dont really know =/
[05:27] <Jucato> Owean: try looking for an app called kompare and/or komparator... not sure which is which
[05:27] <romeo> yay! Now it worked to install it. Thak you all so very much :D
[05:27] <CarinArr> you're welcome romeo;) it should be available from kcontrol now
[05:27] <soulrider> no prob
[05:28] <romeo> soulrider and CarinArr. Thanks.
[05:28] <Jucato> Owean: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33545
[05:28] <Jucato> (that was quick...)
[05:28] <jhutchins> Owean: I usually use a file manager called "mc", styled after Midnight Commander.
[05:28] <romeo> since you are helping me, i got One tiny question cause i am tryig to install my grafic card. on a howto for ubuntu it says go to system - Software source.. Any idea where i can find this sofware source in Kubuntu?
[05:28] <Jucato> there's a KDE version of that, called Krusader :)
[05:29] <Owean> jhutchins: but does it support recursive comparison?
[05:29] <jhutchins> Jucato: Except he specified console.
[05:29] <CarinArr> right, finally got everything set up as i want it on my laptop.. and am realising i'm now going to have reinstall all my other machines to get same setups on them
[05:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:29] <Jucato> jhutchins: ah sorry kinda missed that part :)
[05:29] <CarinArr> and i didn't make a note of anything i did
[05:29] <angela_> Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. and my ubuntu iso burn fails .. why
[05:29] <eagles0513875> skull now i know y ur name is what it is
[05:29] <jhutchins> Owean: If nothing else, you can do ls -R > text file for each tree and diff the files.
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> may as well update to 3.5.6
[05:30] <eagles0513875> what r u using to burn ur iso angela
[05:30] <CarinArr> angela_: sounds as tho the device or resource is busy;)
[05:30] <CarinArr> sorry.. couldn't resist
[05:30] <angela_> k3b..
[05:30] <angela_> i have a blank cd in
[05:30] <Skreech> Jucato: How did it find it's way into main?
[05:30] <eagles0513875> ok can u eject the cd
[05:30] <jhutchins> angela_: Need to run k3bsetup, if that fails we can walk you through fixing it manually.
[05:31] <eagles0513875> could it fix itself it the x is restarted
[05:31] <Jucato> Skreech: libxine-extracodecs just installs libxine1-ffmpeg, which is in main. don't know how, don't know why
[05:31] <angela_> i ran k3bsetup its running now what do i need to do there
[05:31] <angela_> seems all is allright
[05:31] <romeo> CarinArr: Would you know where to find "sofware source" in kubuntu? a howto tells me that its on UBUNTU > system > Software source.. However i cant seem to find it on my kubuntu?
[05:31] <jhutchins> angela_: that or somethng else is accesing the disk.
[05:32] <angela_> the disk isnt even mounted
[05:32] <angela_> hmm wait
[05:32] <Skreech> Jucato: When does the patent on mp3 rugout?
[05:32] <Skreech> runout?
[05:32] <CarinArr> romeo: no idea.. not sure what that is i'm afraid, and i haven't used kde more than a couple of days;)
[05:32] <jhutchins> angela_: k3bsetup should set /dev/hdc's group ownership to a group you are a member of (use the groups command to see what you belong to).
[05:32] <jhutchins> angela_: We've had reports that it sometimes fails.
[05:32] <Jucato> Skreech: dunno... seeing as it's in main, might be good to ask core devs
[05:32] <PF-Away> romeo: look in Adept Package Manager
[05:33] <jhutchins> angela_: ls -l /dev/hdc to see the owner/group.
[05:33] <romeo> CarinArr: Oh :P ok thaks.
[05:33] <PF-Away> it should be in your K-menu somewhere
[05:33] <eagles0513875> try restarting the x server for me that fixes alot of bugs that i have
[05:33] <angela_> jhutchins: i sucesfully burned a file to a cd before this
[05:33] <angela_> using this account
[05:33] <romeo> PF-Away: I did.. Didnt work as it said on the howto. There it said i need to authenicate it using a key.. but i could not find where to browse so i could add the key for instance..
[05:33] <jhutchins> Ok, so the groups thing shouldn't be a problem then.
[05:34] <angela_> yea its not a group problem
[05:34] <waylandbill> man I must have alot of packages installed. over a thousand to jump up to feisty. :-O
[05:34] <angela_> let me check again
[05:34] <PF-Away> romeo: which howto?
[05:34] <Skreech> Whoot Debtags work in Adept again :)
[05:34] <jhutchins> angela_: try fuser -vki /dev/hdc
[05:34] <angela_> works now
[05:34] <Skreech> !laptops
[05:34] <angela_> i just had to click the cd icon on the desktop
[05:34] <Skreech> !laptop
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[05:35] <jhutchins> Great, that's really all that matters.
[05:35] <Skuller> eagles0513875: lol..yea i kept that name for myself myself....love it :)
[05:35] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:35] <angela_> im leaving kubuntu because it was kind of too slow and unstable for me , going for ubuntu
[05:35] <eagles0513875> so its registered
[05:35] <eagles0513875> wait angela
[05:35] <eagles0513875> how much ram do u have
[05:35] <eagles0513875> and how much swap
[05:36] <angela_> 512 ddram, 1.8ghz, radeon 9550 128mb
[05:36] <angela_> 1gb ram or so
[05:36] <angela_> i mean swap
[05:36] <eagles0513875> there is ur issue
[05:36] <Skuller> angela_: you werent using any extra window managers right?
[05:36] <PF-Away> i'm glad i'm just testing azureus, not using it... 27% of my memory...
[05:36] <angela_> no, im just using everything as default , nothing modified..
[05:36] <eagles0513875> so the total amount of ram u have is 512
[05:36] <angela_> kde 3.5.6 though
[05:36] <angela_> im not sure if i have 1gb swap maybe its 512 how do i check from command line
[05:37] <waylandbill> I've got 512 ram and kde moves right along..
[05:37] <JuJuBee> I have been trying to get NIS working.  I have read 3 how-to's online, but none seem to be for ubuntu and some of the commands they tell to use do not work... Some of the tests they tell me to run give desired output on both client and server, but no joy.  Can anybody help me?
[05:37] <eagles0513875> ive got 1.2 and im on fire
[05:37] <eagles0513875> and on top of that duel boot
[05:37] <eagles0513875> do u know how to get to the linux equiv of task manager
[05:37] <Skuller> eagles0513875: count me burning too
[05:37] <easytiger> JuJuBee: if your going to use NIS in anger you may want to consider solaris
[05:37] <romeo> PF-Away: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html  (its on the current version, not on edgy)
[05:37] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:37] <angela_> i have freebsd on the other hd its  a 10gb quantum fireball and its blazing fast and stable
[05:37] <Justinalf> Hello, this doesn't seem like a big problem, but everytime I load up Lincity, my screen goes blank, any sugestions?
[05:38] <JuJuBee> What do you mean, in anger?
[05:38] <Skuller> eagles0513875: ksysgaurd
[05:38] <eagles0513875> ya
[05:38] <eagles0513875> open that up angela
[05:38] <easytiger> JuJuBee: in a serious set up
[05:38] <easytiger> or an enterprise environment
[05:38] <CarinArr> aren't you supposed to have same amount of swap as you have ram?
[05:38] <eagles0513875> ya
[05:38] <angela_> for a workstation yes
[05:38] <JuJuBee> Ieasytiger : i am in a small network (my classroom of < 20 computers)
[05:38] <CarinArr> that's the rule i normally follow
[05:38] <angela_> for a server no
[05:38] <CarinArr> why not for a server?
[05:39] <eagles0513875> it could be u need to up the amount of ram u have for a server
[05:39] <Skuller> eagles0513875: you can even get superkaramba and get the 'glass monitor' theme to get a lot of monitors and info
[05:39] <PF-Away> CarinArr: you run more daemons
[05:39] <PF-Away> ?
[05:39] <JuJuBee> s/leasytiger/easytiger/
[05:39] <angela_> its recomended to have double of physical ram for a server, but thats not mandatory
[05:39] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: ctrl-esc
[05:39] <CarinArr> surely that'll just set it swapping madly tho
[05:39] <eagles0513875> swap has to be the same as amount of ram u have
[05:39] <eagles0513875> ubuntu server is just a cli btw angela
[05:39] <angela_> for a workstation yea
[05:39] <CarinArr> why wouldn't it for a server tho
[05:39] <angela_> but it depends on whos rules you follow
[05:39] <angela_> some books say this
[05:39] <angela_> other books other things
[05:39] <Skuller> eagles0513875: ctrl-esc will show you the processes
[05:40] <PF-Away> romeo: why don't you follow the official guide of the Beryl project?
[05:40] <eagles0513875> try shrinkin gthe swap and c if that helps
[05:40] <easytiger> JuJuBee: did you try searching for debian and nis rather than k/ubuntu
[05:40] <CarinArr> doubling the swap will surely just slow things down
[05:40] <eagles0513875> ty skull didnt know that
[05:40] <eagles0513875> ya is there a way she can change it
[05:40] <CarinArr> i'm pleased cause so far with this machine it hasn't touched the swap once
[05:40] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: swap = 2x ram has been the standard for years.
[05:40] <CarinArr> finally enough ram \o/
[05:41] <PF-Away> romeo: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[05:41] <JuJuBee> easytiger, no.  just nis ubuntu...
[05:41] <eagles0513875> ya then y is she experencing slow performance
[05:41] <romeo> PF-Away: I havent checked it, reason i am following this guide is because it says also how i can do to install my grafic card (which is the main reason i am following this guide, the xgl i guess is a bonus)
[05:41] <angela_> how do i check what size is my swap
[05:41] <easytiger> JuJuBee: you might get more results for debian.. saying tis more likey to have been deplyed as a server
[05:41] <CarinArr> romeo, what grahics card do you have?
[05:41] <PF-Away> romeo: you shouldn't use xgl if you don't need it
[05:41] <angela_> i have the default size set by kubuntu during install thats for sure
[05:41] <eagles0513875> ctrl esc
[05:41] <waylandbill> angela_: free
[05:41] <eagles0513875> wait angela run this
[05:42] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:42] <eagles0513875> this gets rid of the cache and cleans it out after u install pkgs
[05:42] <angela_> ok
[05:42] <jhutchins> angela_: top and iostat can be useful in determining where your system bottlenecks.
[05:42] <eagles0513875> frees up space and should improve performance
[05:42] <angela_> im rebooting to ubuntu cd in a few min
[05:42] <angela_> to install it
[05:42] <angela_> no point anymore
[05:42] <eagles0513875> wait angela we can get to bottom of this
[05:43] <PF-Away> vmstat
[05:43] <angela_> output of free on swap section says
[05:43] <angela_> Swap:      1544184      17676    1526508
[05:43] <epimeth> what does it mean if when I log in to x a session starts, then I get thrown back to the login screen?
[05:43] <eagles0513875> how bout physical mem
[05:43] <PF-Away> angela_: vmstat
[05:43] <angela_>     total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:43] <angela_> Mem:        515368     504720      10648          0       3812     383512
[05:43] <angela_> -/+ buffers/cache:     117396     397972
[05:43] <angela_> Swap:      1544184      17676    1526508
[05:44] <CarinArr> epimeth: back to a graphical login screen, or back to a text one?
[05:44] <eagles0513875> isnt her problem she has a bigger swap than physical mem
[05:44] <epimeth> graphical
[05:44] <eagles0513875> 1.5gb swap for 512mb physical
[05:44] <angela_> hmm
[05:44] <angela_> thats kind of a problem
[05:44] <angela_> didnt know
[05:44] <eagles0513875> i think that is where ur prob is angela
[05:44] <angela_> kde apps took long to load ..
[05:44] <angela_> hmm yea you are right
[05:44] <CarinArr> epimeth: probably that the window manager crashed
[05:45] <eagles0513875> is there a way she can shrink it without reinstalling
[05:45] <epimeth> CarinArr: lol... no way!
[05:45] <CarinArr> ;)
[05:45] <epimeth> CarinArr: so how do I fix it :-)
[05:45] <CarinArr> epimeth: you logging into kde?
[05:45] <eagles0513875> oh wait angela
[05:45] <PF-Away> angela_: you could also try with a custom kernel, with ck's patchset
[05:45] <epimeth> CarinArr: yup
[05:45] <eagles0513875> question is is she really experienced with linux or inexperienced
[05:45] <waylandbill> eagles0513875: shrink the swap? yes. turn swap off, repartition it, turn swap on
[05:45] <CarinArr> epimeth: i'm not really that familiar with kde, but you can try moving the .kde folder temporarily and see if it's one of your settings causing it
[05:46] <eagles0513875> way can u explain to angela how to do that
[05:46] <angela_> im somewhere between
[05:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:46] <eagles0513875> wayland can u explain that to angela
[05:46] <epimeth> CarinArr: how do I set the default window manager?  I think beryl might be the culprit
[05:46] <eagles0513875> i have to be honest angela not many ladies on here lol so its nice to c a lady on here lol
[05:46] <PF-Away> angela_: do you want help with repartitioning your swapspace?
[05:46] <romeo> CarinArr: I got Radeon x700.. I followed another guide but it didnt work. Said i need to go to Xorg config file nad change Ati to visa or vesa if i remember correctly. However that did not work =)
[05:47] <angela_> no im not a lady, im just on my mothers account and konversation took her username for nick.. hehe
[05:47] <PF-Away> swapoff /dev/hda2; cfdisk; swapon /dev/hda2
[05:47] <angela_> im a fatboy
[05:47] <CarinArr> epimeth: check if you have beryl-manager.desktop in .kde/Autostart, if so try to move it and see if that works
[05:47] <PF-Away> :P
[05:47] <eagles0513875> oh lol
[05:47] <epimeth> angela_: you know... I was gonna make some joke about you not being a lady, but felt it was in bad taste....
[05:47] <waylandbill> swapoff, use qtparted to resize the swap, swapon /dev/hda[x]
[05:47] <Skuller> lol
[05:47] <eagles0513875> talk to wayland he should be able to explain to ya how to shrink the swap i have no idea
[05:47] <CarinArr> there you go;)
[05:47] <Skuller> hehe
[05:47] <romeo> PF-Away: Isn't XGL to make things the windows move in 3d etc?
[05:47] <epimeth> CarinArr: cheers
[05:47] <epimeth> CarinArr: trying now
[05:47] <eagles0513875> btw angela u have to use sudo qtparted
[05:48] <eagles0513875> good luck romeo getting open gl to work i have a x200m and its a bitch
[05:48] <CarinArr> romeo: yeah, out of interest, how old is your graphics card?
[05:48] <PF-Away> romeo: XGL is the old way, AIGLX, which is built into the graphic-thingy-server Xorg, is the new way
[05:48] <Skuller> caesar gifted
[05:48] <waylandbill> you have to use sudo for the swapoff/on as well. :-)
[05:48] <angela_> ok another time im rebooting to ubuntu install and another day i'll try kubuntu with a right swap size, when feisty fawn will be out
[05:48] <eagles0513875> mine carin is only 2 yrs old and i cnat the fglrx to work ive tried everythign imaginable