[03:11] <calamari> Jordan_U: true: In April 2011 Mark Shuttleworth announced that Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot would not include the classic GNOME desktop as a fall back to Unity, unlike Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal.
[03:11] <openbees> joeyeye : thanks but i am using classic since very next hour of 11.04 installation lolz
[03:11] <Omega> calamari: classic GNOME desktop == gnome-panel
[03:11] <Omega> calamari: We're still a GNOME distribution
[03:11] <Jordan_U> calamari: Because GNOME has moved on to Gnome Shell, not because of any argument.
[03:11] <KM0201> calamari: i thought it was gonna have unity-2d as a fallback.. .there needs to be some sort of fall back, to many peope having probs booting 3D
[03:11] <calamari> WindowNumOne: just look in the list and find the info, no need to paste it
[03:12] <Omega> calamari: We use GNOME rechnologies, GTK applications
[03:12] <richuk> that doesnt mean its not gona have Gnome3 tho calamari
[03:12] <IdleOne> KM0201: there is. see /msg ubottu !classic
[03:12] <KM0201> IdleOne: thanks.
[03:12] <Jordan_U> calamari: GNOME no longer supports the "classic" desktop, and neither will Ubuntu (unless an upstream appears).  I am registered.. this "channel" opens just as the identify process is being done..?
[03:13] <MalMen> hello, my ati driver is not working on ubuntu 11.04.. anyone can help me please ?
[03:13] <IdleOne> KM0201: 11.10 is 6 months away and off topic for this channel
[03:13] <KM0201> IdleOne: i was just saying what i read
[03:13] <Steela> Calamai 190-134-154-254.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) has joined #ubuntu
[03:13] <Steela> * cached has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
 hello, my ati driver is not working on ubuntu 11.04.. anyone can help me please ?
 KM0201: 11.10 is 6 months away and off topic for this channel
 IdleOne: i was just saying what i read
[03:13] <FloodBot2> Steela: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> frybye: Configure your client to send your nickserv password as a server password.
[03:13] <dijonyummy> man that sucks, unity (and gnome 3) seem so restricting
[03:13] <Steela> wait one sec
[03:13] <thauriswulfa1> The Purple 8 Ball says:  Ask again later
[03:13] <Omega> !paste Steela
[03:13] <Steela> I didnt copy that
[03:13] <KM0201> lol
[03:13] <Omega> !paste | Steela
[03:14] <Viking667> Ubuntu One. Who the heck knows something about that? I badly want it to use the network I've got, and not play silly beggars telling me it can't find one... when I'm typing IRC on it.
[03:14] <Viking667> (the network, that is)
[03:14] <frybye> Jordan_U: this was never a problem untill 5 mins ago...?
[03:14] <calamari> thanks for correcting me.. I am glad to hear that I am wrong about Gnome in 11.10
[03:14] <Omega> Steela: I think you highlighted it and middle clicked, that happens to me too sometimes.
[03:14] <frybye> Jordan_U: and with konversation how do i do this change?
[03:14] <Jordan_U> frybye: Race conditions are by their nature not always reproduceable.
[03:15] <Omega> calamari: We're here to help :)
[03:15] <Steela> Calamari   http://pastebin.com/hppW8wcE
[03:15] <MoleMan> I am stuck installing phpMyAdmin can somebody help me, or redirect me to somewhere more suitable please?
[03:15] <Jordan_U> frybye: I don't know, I don't use konversation.
[03:15] <karthick87> How to make natty boot in verbose mode?
[03:16] <calamari> Steela: are you the same and that WindowNumOne guy?
[03:16] <litropy> So, wonder what kind of banter is about in #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <Steela> oh yeah yes
[03:16] <calamari> Steela: I don't see a mounted cd or dvd in that list
[03:17] <Steela> I wonder why does it matter what type of cd or dvd it may of been blank
[03:17] <brous-kee> karthick87, on the grub options  remove  quiet
[03:17] <cloud9> any one can help me installing google earth package
[03:17] <Omega> litropy: No one is saying anything there :)
[03:17] <KM0201> cloud9: just download the .deb, double click and install?
[03:17] <calamari> Steela: all I wanted to know was the name of your cd device .. it is probably /dev/sg0 .. lets just guess
[03:17] <IdleOne> cloud9: sudo apt-get install googleearth-package
[03:17] <Steela> I dunno!
[03:17] <karthick87> brous-kee: Changing option GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" in /etc/default/grub doesn't effect in natty.
[03:17] <litropy> Omega, yeah, that's what you _want_ us to think :P j/k
[03:18] <KM0201> is google earth in the repos now?
[03:18] <KM0201> !info googleearth
[03:18] <calamari> Steela: pastebin this: ls -l /dev/sg* /dev/sr*
[03:18] <KM0201> !info googleearth-package
[03:18] <IdleOne> !info googleearth-package
[03:18] <brous-kee> karthick87, on the grub options  remove  quiet -- did you try this yet?
[03:18] <litropy> !info xorg-edit
[03:18] <KM0201> hmm, didn't know that
[03:18] <litropy> !flash
[03:18] <MK``> Can I resize a partition with the disk utility or do I have to use something like gparted?
[03:19] <karthick87> brous-kee: will try that
[03:19] <brous-kee> MK``, if it has data you would want to use gparted
[03:19] <MK``> ok thanks
[03:19] <litropy> !What to do when  youtube is smooth and hulu is choppy
[03:19] <wdbl> i have a fairly fresh install of 10.04 and I am getting permission-denied trying to mkdir /usr/local/src/xyz Isn't this where you're supposed to keep source code?
[03:19] <litropy> !Upgrade to AI
[03:20] <KM0201> litropy: stop
[03:20] <litropy> KM0201, Yes, sir
[03:20] <Steela> Here it is :  http://pastebin.com/CNL8VRxz
[03:20] <KM0201> litropy: you can /msg ubottu something here... and he'll PM you all the factoids you want (if you want to just ask it various questions)
[03:21] <litropy> KM0201, thanks!
[03:22] <Guest94632> just received the new update and now I have no wireless networking... I have the third party bcm43xx drivers installed but I do not remember what to type to bring up the wireless networking... thought it was something like ifconfig wlan0 up...but not sure
[03:22] <calamari> Steela: that looks good then. and you said you were already in the cdrom group.. well I don't know at this point. I can get you working in a "wrong waqy" if you just want to burn
[03:22] <Jordan_U> karthick87: Did you run "sudo update-grub" after making changes to /etc/default/grub ?
[03:22] <calamari> Steela: if you run "sudo k3b" you should probably be able to burn
[03:22] <litropy> Guest94632, check out iwconfig as well
[03:22] <karthick87> Jordan_U: Yes
[03:23] <Steela> thats when I put in a CD look what happens when I type mount after putting in DVD
[03:23] <KM0201> calamari: i can't imagine a situation where any burning utility, would need sudo.
[03:23] <Jordan_U> karthick87: Can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[03:23] <litropy> Guest94632, also make sure the card is enabled in BIOS
[03:23] <jhay> Anyone else experiencing the Applications menu freezing up every once in a while?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | calamari
[03:23] <calamari> KM0201: it told him permission denied.. I used to get that all the time until I got my permissions sorted out
[03:23] <karthick87> Jordan_U: Sure wait a min
[03:24] <calamari> KM0201: but if he just needs to burn something he can use sudo and get it done
[03:24] <litropy> Guest94632, Network Manager should do the rest.
[03:24] <KM0201> calamari: hmm, thats strange.. i've never had to use sudo w/ a burning utility.. sounsd like he's got more issues than not being able to burn something unless he's root
[03:24] <Guest94632> litropy, it is enabled in the bios... the only change that I made to the system was to upgrade to 11.04... from 10.
[03:24] <calamari> KM0201: it's not the right solution, but i can get him going in a crunch
[03:25] <Guest17770> Man I thought ubuntu was light weight. It runs really slow compared to win 7
[03:25] <litropy> Guest94632, ifconfig to find your card; ifconfig [card] up
[03:25] <Steela> Calamari http://pastebin.com/ixwprTBh
[03:25] <calamari> KM0201: I'm pretty sure you need to be able to access the /dev/sr0 (etc) device in order to burn.. and the permissions are root.cdrom.. so either root or in the cdrom group
[03:25] <Guest94632> this is on my laptop and the wireless is not coming up when I press the button
[03:25] <Guest94632> ok
[03:25] <Guest94632> i will try that
[03:26] <litropy> Guest94632, but it sounds like there's something going on with that driver, because it should bring itself up automatically
[03:26] <Steela> what is sudo K3b going to do
[03:26] <calamari> Steela: did "sudo k3b" work to burn your cd?
[03:26] <Steela> I already tried to burn over a thousand times using k3b!
[03:26] <calamari> Steela: it'll run it as root
[03:26] <Jordan_U> calamari: Please stop suggesting the use of sudo with graphical programs.
[03:26] <MoleMan> is there a command for search?
[03:26] <Guest94632> litropy, i guess i could uninstall and reinstall...
[03:26] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | calamari
[03:27] <Guest94632> [the driver]
[03:27] <Steela> Ok lets see this
[03:27] <calamari> Jordan_U: if you wnt to take over and help him, go ahead
[03:27] <calamari> Jordan_U: there is nothing wrong with using sudo to run a program
[03:27] <isarl> Hi all, although Alternative Drivers says my nvidia-current is "activated but not currently in use", glxinfo and glxgears seem to suggest that it actually is.  My problem: "Detect monitors" is not showing my second monitor.
[03:27] <litropy> Guest94632, yeah, that's an option.
[03:27] <KM0201> calamari: actually...
[03:28] <Jordan_U> calamari: Read the link from ubottu. It could lead to Steela no longer being able to log in.
[03:28] <calamari> Jordan_U: and I haven't kept up on the grpahical sudo of the week
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Steela: Do *not* run "sudo k3b".
[03:28] <Steela> *americans, president obama on tv to talk it supposed to be a national security issues*
[03:28] <calamari> okay well I don't want to get banned for helping so sorry Steela you're on your own
[03:28] <litropy> Does anyone _not_ have problems playing hulu?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> !ot | Steela
[03:28] <calamari> Jordan will help you
[03:29] <wdbl> does anyone know why you don't have permissions to /usr/local/src by default? where do you keep your code?
[03:29] <Hoyt> hi , where can i download hard drive boot needed vmlinuz and initrd.gz ? i just forgot about the url
[03:29] <litropy> Jordan_U, why is sudo k3b a bad idea?
[03:29] <isarl> #ubuntu, why is my second monitor not getting detected?
[03:29] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | litropy
[03:30] <litropy> (not that I don't think it is)
[03:30] <calamari> btw your ubtu command never sent me any kind of link
[03:30] <ChapterNZ> Anyone else having issues with pidgin not showing in the notification area after a dist-upgrade? (I've reinstalled pidgin-libnotify, whitelisted 'all' in gsettings.... any pointers anyone?
[03:30] <KM0201> !gksudo | calamari
[03:30] <litropy> Jordan_U, thanks.
[03:30] <Jordan_U> calamari: It did the first time I used it and directed it to you.
[03:30] <Jordan_U> litropy: You're welcome.
[03:30] <Steela> sud
[03:31] <Darren> hey i have a problem
[03:31] <calamari> lol that's funny.. I guess I never thought about that.. if .ICE got messed up I'd just fix it
[03:31] <calamari> well good to know I guess
[03:32] <calamari> Steela: I guess your command now would be gksudo k3b
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Steela: Are you using Ubuntu 11.04?
[03:32] <Darren> Can anyone help me with an upgrading problem>
[03:33] <Darren> ?
[03:33] <killer_> I'm looking for a file manager program that when copying a file from one system to another, it gives the transfer rate. I have tried Thunar and PCManFM 0.9.7.  What other options are there?  I am running Crunchbang which is why I do not have naudiaus(sp?) and am on a netbook so I prefer to stay away from resource hogs.
[03:33] <KM0201> calamari: of course, the issue becomes, if someone doesn't know how to fix it
[03:33] <Viking667> How do I ADD workspaces to the four that exist from the Unity workspace switcher?
[03:33] <Logan_> !ask | Darren
[03:34] <xangua> killer_: only ubuntu support here
[03:34] <trism> Viking667: in ccsm under general options on the desktop tab
[03:34] <calamari> wdbl: I was thinking about that the other day ... actually with /usr/src. if a regular user had write access to /usr/src.. a malicious user could fill up the partition /usr . I don't know if that is THE answer, but just a possibility
[03:35] <Darren> Why is it that after i have upgraded, the backlight doesnt turn on?
[03:35] <killer_> roger.  Can someone verify naudiaus has the transfer rate?  An example of such is with any Windows where there is a rate of 11.7 mb / sec (or whatever values depending on cpu usage/network/etc)
[03:35] <Viking667> hm. CCSM being ... the compizconfig?
[03:35] <wdbl> calamari: thanks, I didn't think about that. I think I will just make a src directory in my home.
[03:36] <wdbl> we'll see what happens I guess
[03:36] <trism> Viking667: yes compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:36] <Bsims> dumb question but how to I turn off the disappearing slider feature for gtk apps?
[03:36] <calamari> wdbl: if it's just your system you could also change the permissions
[03:36] <Steela> Calami
[03:36] <Viking667> looking there now...
[03:36] <Logan_> killer_: /join #crunchbang
[03:37] <Viking667> THANK you. I was looking in the wrong places.
[03:37] <MoleMan> anybody tell me what the 'omitting directory' error is caused by when attempting to use a cp command?
[03:37] <josefig> hello, I want to start my ubuntu on console mode how may I do this ? I mean not in gdm and when I want to start the X doing it by console.
[03:37] <wdbl> calamari: I guess I'm just wondering what the best practice is. I don't do any coding on *nix ever.
[03:37]  * Viking667 ticks another thing off his list
[03:37] <calamari> MoleMan: it means it detected a directory and you didn't use -R
[03:37] <Steela> I have this something about error , then it said try "TAO" the error was a number but I didnt get it
[03:37] <Jordan_U> MoleMan: cp will only copy directories if given the '-r' option.
[03:37] <Viking667> now, how do I actually change DESKTOPs, not virtual spaces?
[03:37] <MoleMan> Jordan_U: thanks
[03:38] <Stelpa> uhh crap
[03:38] <calamari> wdbl: I'm not sure either
[03:38] <Jordan_U> MoleMan: You're welcome.
[03:38] <Darren> is my backlight not turning on due to a kernel bug?
[03:38] <Stelpa> I think I might have deleted my trash
[03:38] <killer_> Can someone explain Unity.  I don't understand what it is.  I use ubuntu 10.04 on my desktop and I don't think it's there.  After looking at screenshots, it appears to be a fancy speed list to open applications. Is there more to it?
[03:38] <wdbl> calamari: you know what though, it's probably better to change the permissions because sometimes you want a different user to have access, like build services or whatever
[03:38] <Stelpa> like, the trash "folder" itself
[03:38] <Stelpa> I did "sudo rm -r /home/userID/.local/share/Trash/"
[03:38] <Stelpa> >_<
[03:38] <wdbl> calamari: so, /usr/local/src is better
[03:39] <bromide_bro> is there some particular reason why this ubuntu installer is telling me i need 4.4 gb of hard disk space when the boot disk is only something like 600mb
[03:39] <eiriksvin> well i finally found out whats been going on with my Natty, it was the graphics driver, problem is i have it but dont know how to activate it, it just says its not in use what do i do?
[03:39] <Bsims> Grrr system bell isn't working anyone have any idea why?
[03:39] <calamari> wdbl: cool then. I just hacked mine with chown username.username /usr/src   .. defininely not the best practice but it worked for me :)
[03:39] <bromide_bro> because this is an old asus netbook and it only has 2 gb of hdd
[03:39] <Stelpa> ello?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: The CD is compressed.
[03:39] <Bsims> Grrr system bell isn't working anyone have any idea why?
[03:39] <Steela> Calami I think I know what wrong when I typed sudo k3b I got this long message want to see
[03:39] <Viking667> bromide_bro: and the deb packages expand to bigger than 600Mb when uncompressed
[03:40] <calamari> Steela: ok
[03:40] <Darren> why is my backlight not turning on in 11.04?
[03:40] <Steela> http://pastebin.com/xX1v565f
[03:40] <bromide_bro> really... i wonder what the heck they added that makes the new install so huge
[03:40] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: The space requirement hasn't changed.
[03:40] <Viking667> bromide_bro: what's on the CDROM is a single compressed filesystem, and the contents (usually) gets copied over uncompressed.
[03:40] <bromide_bro> at any rate, i guess i can't install 11.04 on this netbook
[03:40] <calamari> Steela: I thought I said to use gksudo because they corrected me.. guess you missed it
[03:41] <calamari> Steela: but still.. the program should have loaded
[03:41] <bromide_bro> jordan_u:  it must have; i've had more than enough disk space to install ubuntu on this netbook before
[03:41] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: How big is your hard drive?
[03:41] <bromide_bro> 2gb
[03:42] <Steela> want me to re try
[03:42] <Steela> so "gksudo k3b" then burn to iso
[03:42] <calamari> Steela: well did k3b load ?
[03:42] <Steela> it loaded last time
[03:42] <bromide_bro> the last version on this was probably something like 10.04, but i don't remember exactly... it didn't have this new installer
[03:42] <Guest17770> Bib laden dead
[03:42] <tully> 8 inches
[03:42] <gonzalo> Thank you, Ubuntu Community, and thanks to HyperShock!
[03:42] <calamari> Steela: did it work to burn?
[03:42] <Jordan_U> bromide_bro: That would not be "more than enough" space for any release of Ubuntu, except maybe netbook editions which may be smaller than Desktop.
[03:42] <_Neytiri_> how do i add a user with a home directory different than /home
[03:42] <Stafngrimr> Last version was 10.10
[03:43] <chris_008> Help room--What program can I use to open a DOS executable file to change some parameters?
[03:43] <Steela> it still didnt work it gave me that message about klauncher when i looked back in terminal
[03:43] <Steela> NO
[03:43] <calamari> Steela: so it still complained about permissions
[03:43] <bromide_bro> i definitely only installed the netbook versions
[03:43] <Jordan_U> !ot | Guest17770
[03:43] <Steela> No it said I had root
[03:43] <Viking667> chris_008: err, you can't.
[03:43] <bromide_bro> it's  a shame they discontinued that line (did they?)
[03:43] <Steela> It was a number
[03:43] <Viking667> ... not without a hex editor. And that's not covered by Ubuntu support.
[03:43] <calamari> Steela: oh cool.. guess k3b got smarter since the lasty time I tried that hack.. lol
[03:44] <chris_008> Viking: Hrmm, what about a PC program in Wine to do the edit?
[03:44] <calamari> Steela: I want to see it here, 1 min
[03:44] <Rehan> could anyone help me solve the problem of my Virtual Terminals not working? If I do ctrl+alt+F1 i get a black screen and then the only way I can get back to my screen is by doing ctrl+alt+F8
[03:44] <Flynsarmy> Hey usually I install msttcorefonts but apparently in natty there's only ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it's already insatalled yet reddit fonts look pretty different. any ideas?
[03:44] <Bsims> anyone know why I can't turn on the system bell, and how to get sliders visible in gtk2 apps?
[03:45] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero's giving me a bit of trouble. It's asking for two packages, "mplex" and "dvdauthor". The problem is, they don't seem to exist. What alternatives do I have, or what server are the packages on?
[03:45] <Stafngrimr> kill
[03:45] <Stafngrimr> er
[03:45] <bromide_bro> i'll try netbook edition 10.10, then
[03:45] <Steela> hey guys I know this is an ubuntu room, but Osama Bin Laden has been caught and he is dead
[03:45] <xangua> Steela: stop that
[03:45] <calamari> Steela: so it gives the warning and lets you close the warning. does it then let you burn?
[03:45] <Cairo> Steela: who?
[03:45] <HyperShock> _Neytiri_: open users and groups, then select user, then select advanced button, then in popped up windows, hit 'advanced' tab, tell the new directory there
[03:45] <Steela> Sorry, I just heard it on CNN
[03:46] <Steela> it some big news
[03:46] <_Neytiri_> HyperShock, i am runung CLI only
[03:46] <dibs> hats off to the devs. I just got Natty running and just wanted to come and say thanks to all involved in unity and natty's dev. I love it!
[03:46] <bromide_bro> ...can you even download netbook 10.10 from the ubuntu site anymore?  it's not showing up
[03:46] <Stafngrimr> Unity is great
[03:47] <calamari> Steela: good luck with your probs, I'm out for a while
[03:47] <Cairo> bromide_bro: i would think so...
[03:47] <Cairo> why not 11.04?
[03:47] <^Phantom^> What?
[03:47] <^Phantom^> I got asked the language of england before I could join?
[03:47] <bromide_bro> the non-netbook versions require too much disk space for my netbook
[03:47] <hidn_shadows> Anyone know about the two missing packages from Brasero? Mplex and Dvdauthor
[03:47] <Stafngrimr> Theres only one version of 11.04 I think isnt there
[03:47] <hidn_shadows> ^Phantom^, they're just checking to make sure you arent' a bot
[03:48] <bromide_bro> and the netbook edition has been discontinued
[03:48] <^Phantom^> hidn_shadows, ah
[03:48] <Steela> calami please
[03:48] <^Phantom^> i had to restart
[03:48] <samplezt> how can i make more desktops on ubuntu 11.04?
[03:48] <Steela> shoot
[03:48] <bromide_bro> since i guess most netbooks these days have more than 2gb hard drive space
[03:48] <Cairo> bromide_bro: so just use the 11.04 netbook edition
[03:48] <mrdeb> is 1104 good now?
[03:48] <Steela> no one to help me
[03:48] <bromide_bro> it hasn't got one
[03:48] <^Phantom^> I guess my system does restart pretty quickly when I boot to ubuntu, XD @ hidn_shadows
[03:48] <xangua> bromide_bro: just got unified
[03:48] <Cairo> bromide_bro: oh...
[03:48] <^Phantom^> It's a nice OS to have alongside windows
[03:48] <Cairo> there should be one...
[03:48] <Stafngrimr> Someone has a 2gb hdd?
[03:48] <HyperShock> _Neytiri_: after you use 'adduser' to add the user to the system use 'usermod <username> --home <directory_path>'
[03:48] <tully> BIN LADEN IS DEAD!
[03:48] <Cairo> ^Phantom^: wInDOws!@#%(&*@
[03:48] <xangua> tully drop it
[03:49] <^Phantom^> Stafngrimr, they still make 2GB HDDs?
[03:49] <xangua> !ot
[03:49] <^Phantom^> Cairo, i'm running the superior OS right now
[03:49] <tully> we did drop it, right on his face hold
[03:49] <tully> hole*
[03:49] <eigba_> Why are the complaints about unity? You can revert back to Gnome to by choosing Ubuntu classic from gdm login manager correct?
[03:49] <eiriksvin> anyone have any luck getting Rune of Magic to work?
[03:49] <_Neytiri_> ty
[03:49] <Rehan> could anyone help me solve the problem of my Virtual Terminals not working? If I do ctrl+alt+F1 i get a black screen and then the only way I can get back to my screen is by doing ctrl+alt+F8
[03:49] <eiriksvin> Runes
[03:49] <BrotherJ> Are there any good games on Ubuntu?
[03:49] <mrdeb> eigba_: nothing real. unity works well
[03:50] <Steela> I know I announced that already tully I got int trouble
[03:50] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else noticing VLC icon rarely appears in classic 11.04?
[03:50] <mrdeb> does anyone know how to install unreal tournmane 2004 on ubuntu x64?
[03:50] <Rehan> could anyone help me solve the problem of my Virtual Terminals not working? If I do ctrl+alt+F1 i get a black screen and then the only way I can get back to my screen is by doing ctrl+alt+F8
[03:50] <Guest39437> !paste
[03:50] <eigba_> mrdeb: I like unity, however many are complaining about it, but choosing ubuntu classic from gdm login manager loads gnome 2 correct?
[03:50] <bromide_bro> this is unusual.  i could've sworn the ubuntu website used to host all of the old versions
[03:50] <mrdeb> eigba_: yes it loads gnome 2
[03:50] <Stafngrimr> Yeah you can load gnome2
[03:50] <Steela> xangua most not live anywhere near where he killed 3,000 + of our ppl
[03:51] <xangua> !ot | Steela
[03:51] <Stafngrimr> I dont have any problems with Unity personally. I quite like it
[03:52] <eigba_> Stafngrimr: You know its growing on me alot actually, Its nice to have a new Desktop enviroment to play with
[03:52] <bison> what kind of error is this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/
[03:52] <beachbum_Bob> how do i upgrade from clamtk 4.30 to clamtk 4.32 ?
[03:52] <eiriksvin> im trying so hard to get Runes of Magic to work, everything is good, but my screen stays black, i saw a picture once, but i cant seem to even get that repeated
[03:52] <isarl> How do I move the Unity bar around? I have multiple monitors and would like it on the far left edge, not the left edge of the right-hand monitor.
[03:53] <Cairo> isarl: someone said that you couldn't
[03:53] <eiriksvin> you cant
[03:53] <nawk> is it a normal behaviour to experience choppiness in flash video playback using the 64-bit Adobe Flash Player for linux?
[03:53] <isarl> wow, that's awesome.  For real?!
[03:53] <xangua> beachbum_Bob: use the clamav ppa
[03:53] <mrdeb> nawk: depends on te website
you cant not == supported yet
[03:53] <xangua> nawk: yes
[03:53] <beachbum_Bob> thanks xangua
[03:53] <A> I need to make an announcement
[03:53] <nawk> xangua: and I do mean *choppy
[03:54] <eiriksvin> give it another month somone will find a way!
[03:54] <eigba_> Well you can play with your video driver settings an rotate screen, but then you will have to browse and such with everything else sideways :) hahaha
[03:54] <bison> what kind of error is this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/
[03:54] <eigba_> All joking aside I wish you could move the bar
[03:54] <solid_liq> yay! bin laden is dead!!
[03:55] <Romance> any good about 11.04 ?
[03:55] <nawk> xangua: I am referring to the "Square" release, if you know which version of adobe player for linux I am talking about
[03:55] <nfm> Hi, I tried installing KDE on the default Ubuntu 11.04, but then switched back. Unfortunately the splash screen at boot up  still says "Kubuntu". Is there an easy fix for this?
[03:55] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero's giving me a bit of trouble. It's asking for two packages, "mplex" and "dvdauthor". The problem is, they don't seem to exist. What alternatives do I have, or what server are the packages on?
[03:55] <kazu> hi, could you teach install ubuntu-server 11.04(amd64) about uEFI architecture ?
[03:55] <eiriksvin> yeah, itll happen, there are plenty of people wanting to do that
[03:55] <isarl> Romance: No.  Nothing.  Don't use it.    Stay on 10.10 while you still can.
[03:55] <damon> nawk: I installed square via apt-get or something and it works fine
[03:55] <isarl> Romance: I'm not being sarcastic.  I've had nothing but trouble since I updated.  AVOID.
[03:55] <isarl> Romance: The term "bleeding edge" comes to mind.
[03:55] <AADFS> Wehn selecting graphics for Nivida drivers, select version 173 version
[03:56] <nawk> damon: square is in which repo?
[03:56] <nawk> square: restricted?
[03:56] <eigba_> Brb I just farted out a butt turd
[03:56] <nawk> damon, restricted?
[03:56] <spiderX> hi, is there any free mysql gui client for ubuntu?
[03:56] <damon> nawk: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html
[03:56] <Bsims> WTH is pcspkr not found as a valid kernel module on natty
[03:56] <Romance> isarl : thanks for reminded me. I'll stick with 10.04 :)
[03:56] <MoleMan> would it be possible to move the contents of a folder up a directory? something along the lines of 'mv /var/www/citrix/wordpress/* /var/www/citrix/' ?
[03:56] <eiriksvin> but the way i see it, why change your GUI from classic to natty on your release and knowing the huge mods i have done to my old screen, id have to say that was a bad call
[03:57] <isarl> Romance: That works, too.  =)
[03:57] <damon> nawk: think that's the directions I followed.  I'm no ubuntu pro though
[03:57] <spivwaq> Hi all,  there's a Windows Chrome "new tab redirect" extension that lets you change the default new tab location...does such a thing exist for ubuntu?
[03:57] <bison> what kind of error is this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/
[03:57] <eigba_> Anyone running gnome 3?
[03:57] <spiderX> please tell me any mysql gui client for ubuntu~
[03:57] <xangua> eigba_: gnome3 may breack your system if that is what you are asking
[03:57] <astrobus> gnome 3 is on fedora beta
[03:57] <AADFS> Not yest
[03:58] <damon> hey all, does anybody know how to enable dragging and dropping files through a gnome-panel?  This definitely worked through older versions of ubuntu
[03:58] <xangua> !mysql > spiderX
[03:58] <eigba_> spiderX, You may want to search for a mysql gui client for linux in general.
[03:58] <nawk> is add-apt-repository new?  I've always had to edit the source.list myself
[03:58] <tamara__> hi
[03:58] <tamara__> i have a kolke cam
[03:58] <bison> i can't use my ubuntu software center, the error is here "http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/"
[03:58] <tamara__> and i cant make it work in ubuntu
[03:58] <xangua> nawk: as new as ubuntu 9.10
[03:59] <tamara__> a cant find any driver on internet
[03:59] <xangua> tamara__: installed cheese ¿
[03:59] <eiriksvin> my thoughts is that they should have went with an ultra easy custimisable desktop
[03:59] <AADFS> Gnome 3 =/= Unity
[03:59] <AADFS> Not compatible
[03:59] <yanger> i'm probably doing something not right, apt-get remove apache2 to remove the apache server (replacing it with lighttpd) but apache still exists in start scripts [binds port 80]
[03:59] <AADFS> And you cant downgrade to unity after going to GNOME 3
[04:00] <MoleMan> command for delete?
[04:00] <tamara__> kolke webcam
[04:00] <eiriksvin> all set with the tools to let any user design their desktop in a smooth and seamless way
[04:00] <spicytaco> can anyone read this?
[04:00] <mrdeb> yes
[04:00] <eiriksvin> yep
[04:00] <xangua> AADFS: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge <ppa's name>
[04:00] <eigba_> AADFS, Why not? It can be done, just maybe not easy
[04:00] <isarl> spicytaco: No, I can't.  I'm illiterate.
[04:00] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, "old school" 10.04's brasero is giving me trouble about not having two packages, "mplex" and "dvdauthor" Are there alternative packages, do I need to update something, anyone know?
[04:00] <tamara__> can u readme?
[04:01] <AADFS> BYE!
not so loud but clear:)
[04:01] <taglass> eiriksvin: I disagree.  That's asking for a support nightmare, and support is one of the few ways CAnonical makes money.
[04:01] <Bsims> I can't enable system bell, or make gtk app sliders visible at all times any ideas?
[04:01] <celthunder> Bsims: pulseaudio oss or alsa?
[04:01] <bison> i can't use my ubuntu software center, the error is here "http://paste.ubuntu.com/602096/"
[04:02] <eiriksvin> they could easily have made the GUI ultra custom and offered ends to can
[04:02] <celthunder> tamara__: i could read that line
[04:02] <Bsims> in a terminal
[04:02] <spicytaco> isarl:i am having difficultis you see i click join this one channel and it said if you do not consent to proxy search leave now then it said you have been banned i did no wrong
[04:02] <eiriksvin> for support
[04:02] <OY1R> now on 11.04
[04:02] <Bsims> celthunder: terminal I am running pulseaudio but its configured to use pc speaker and worked before Natty
[04:03] <mouse> test
[04:03] <OY1R> how messed up the layout ! :P how do i switch to gnome ?
[04:03] <isarl> spicytaco: well, we can all see you just fine. =)
[04:03] <xangua> OY1R: for 'classic' desktop on your login screem
[04:03] <xangua> sceen*
[04:03] <OY1R> ok
[04:03] <Herc> If I upgrade my Ubuntu right now do I need to modify my symlinks settings in apache?
[04:03] <OY1R> what if i autologin ! heh
[04:03] <eiriksvin> im just sick, i cant play Runes of Magic:(
[04:04] <brous-kee> upgrade as oppose to fresh install causes so much headaches
[04:04] <celthunder> bsims ok try load-sample-lazy x11-bell /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/dialog-error.oga
[04:04] <celthunder> load-module module-x11-bell sample=x11-bell
[04:05] <spicytaco> isarl: isarl: why can i be banned for nothiing?
[04:05] <Bsims> celthunder: I don't want to comeout via the speakers, I want it to use the beep on pc case
[04:05] <dreamsforgotten> hello everyone, looking for some support in Natty anyone successfully running 32bit scripts?
[04:05] <isarl> spicytaco: couldn't tell you.
[04:05] <newb_> My sound (and microphone) isn't working on a EEEPC 1005-HA netbook. Somebody could help me to identify the problem?
[04:05] <celthunder> Bsims: ah that does exactly the opposite to it lol
[04:05] <taglass> spicytaco: I'm guessing that you're behind a proxy
[04:05] <codeshah> hey guys, I want to add a user to the www-data group - how do I do this? can the user be part of his current group and www-data?
[04:05] <Bsims> celthunder: gets better I can't even modprobe the damned module I need
[04:05] <eiriksvin> Herc if you update, you might not find it all that
[04:05] <celthunder> newb_: do they show up as hardware, pulseuadio oss or alsa and what're you using to test did you check if muted
[04:06] <spicytaco> taglass:i am on a university wireless network I get banned for this?
[04:06] <celthunder> Bsims: can it find it? whats the error from modprobe
[04:06] <eiriksvin> im thinking on going back to 10.10, until they open this whale up
[04:06] <taglass> spicytaco: apparently so, and this really has nothing to do w/ ubuntu support.
[04:06] <Bsims> great now it found it
[04:06] <dibs> I get the odd redraw issue with windows untill I either move or resize them, anyone else get this?
[04:06] <white_gecko> hey hello, is in 11.04 netbook and desktop the same or where can i find the download for a netwook image?
[04:07] <xangua> white_gecko: the same
[04:07] <Bsims> but still no beep
[04:07] <white_gecko> xangua: so i should put desktop on my usb stick
[04:07] <spicytaco> taglass:oh i see, what channel has to do with chatzilla support?
[04:07] <J_ez_2cool> USB ACCESS ON 11.04 HELP
[04:07] <celthunder> spicytaco: #chatzilla ?
[04:07] <eiriksvin> anyone know where i could go for some help getting Runes of Magic working?
[04:08] <dreamsforgotten> Any takers on troubleshooting ADB in natty:  Getting no file or directory in platform-tools/ folder please msg
[04:08] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: is it in your path?
[04:08] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder yes and it's not working in the actual directory either
[04:08] <spicytaco> celticthunder: that room is empty!
[04:08] <celthunder> permissions?
[04:08] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: permissions?
[04:08] <white_gecko> there is a link to http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt but it doesn't work
[04:08] <luthfi> hi
[04:09] <celthunder> spicytaco: what're you trying todo with chatzilla i hate it as it's a terible client but ...
[04:09] <celthunder> luthfi: hi
[04:09] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder r+w
[04:09] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: set it +x lol
[04:09] <celthunder> since most of the stuff in there you're executing
[04:09] <kazuhiko> hi, could you teach install ubuntu-server 11.04(amd64) about uEFI architecture ?
[04:09] <taglass> spicytaco: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies
[04:09] <celthunder> kazuhiko: ?
[04:09] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder going to try now did that once.  Then installed ia32-libs
[04:10] <celthunder> what about installing it
[04:10] <spicytaco> celthunder: well i have a moral objection to paying for irc software i will not try mIRC, i tried pidgey its nice
[04:10] <celthunder> spicytaco: weechat/irssi or xchat
[04:10] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder chown or chmod
[04:11] <newb_> celthunder: I'm trtying use alsa, but alsamixer don't show the sound input, and the audio output is strange (wheezing). The input it's muted for audacity and skype.
[04:11] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: chmod
[04:11] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder k
[04:11] <celthunder> newb_: is pulseuadio taking over it?
[04:12] <newb_> celthunder: I've installed pulseaudio, but I don't know how he works to test...
[04:12] <luthfi> can i upgrading 10.10 to 11.04 by using dvd install??
[04:12] <spicytaco> taglass: i do not think the channel was from freenode network-what I did was googled 100 largest irc channels and clicked one
[04:12] <kazuhiko> I try install ubuntu-server 11.04 to IBM X3550M3
[04:13] <celthunder> newb_: i'd bet if the mixer looks wierd and wierd sounds come from alsa that pulse took over the device (or that's what happens for me if i use alsa for something s while pulse is using the hardware
[04:13] <celthunder> kazuhiko: ok where did you get stuck?
[04:13] <spicytaco> celthunder: from xchat wikipedia article, "but the official Windows version is Shareware"
[04:13] <sjshin> #assist
[04:13] <celthunder> spicytaco: silverex.org -- free version for windows
[04:14] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder still no go No command 'adb' found, did you mean:
[04:14] <spicytaco> celthunder: what differences between the two besides one is free?
[04:14] <newb_> celthunder: Then I should not try use aplay or something more who uses alsa directily?
[04:14] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder been at it 3 hours had it working fine in 10.04 is it supported?
[04:14] <celthunder> spicytaco: not much lol it's literally the same
[04:15] <spicytaco> celthunder: great I have no moral objectiion to that!
[04:15] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: chmod 777 adb then do ./adb
[04:15] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: if it still doesn't find it something is majorly wrong (like your 32 bit lib's
[04:15] <damon> hey all, does anybody know how to enable dragging and dropping files through a gnome-panel?  This definitely worked through older versions of ubuntu
[04:15] <kazuhiko> celthunder:installation process was completed. but...
[04:16] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder your a godsend!!!  so for now on the ./ is a must right
[04:16] <xangua> damon: if you use unity, you are no using gnome panel
[04:16] <Guest55198> how to change my name
[04:16] <damon> xangua: I'm in ubuntu classic
[04:16] <newb_> celthunder: Hey!!! Banshee player is playing the audios correctily!!! :D
[04:16] <_genuser_> hello people
[04:16] <_genuser_> anybody using netbuntu?
[04:16] <sjmikem> Why don't I have update-rc.d on my ubuntu installation?
[04:17] <sjmikem> ubuntu 13 to be specific
[04:17] <newb_> celthunder: There are no way to do this work for aplay too? And now for audio input?
[04:17] <Guest55198> how to change my name from guest55198 to any other name?
[04:17] <Flannel> sjmikem: There is no such thing as Ubuntu 13.
[04:17] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: add it to your path and chmod the entire directory like this chmod -R 777 ./
[04:17] <celthunder> and then you can skip the ./ whenever (as long as its in your path
[04:17] <tamara__> hi all
[04:18] <sjmikem> Flannel: oh duh
[04:18] <celthunder> newb_: yeah you can make it work do tthis ps auxf |grep pulseaudio any results oether than your grep command?
[04:18] <tamara__> i have a kolke webcam
[04:18] <sjmikem> thx
[04:18] <tamara__> and i cant make it work in ubuntu
[04:18] <Guest55198> hi is there any change between ubuntu and sabily
[04:18] <celthunder> Guest55198: /nick changes your nick
[04:18] <kazuhiko> grub2 was not find kernel at the time of  boot after the installation.
[04:18] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder Thankyou very much!!!  I'll let you get to those that need it now!
[04:18] <wolfric> anyone see osama is dead
[04:18] <dreamsforgotten> wolfric watching it now
[04:18] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: lol i'm useless...just helping a few that i can
[04:19] <celthunder> wolfric: do we care?
[04:19] <dreamsforgotten> lol
[04:19] <Flannel> That's offtopic for here, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[04:19] <harushimo> for android development in ubuntu, is it better to do the plugin for eclipse or the actual sdk
[04:19] <change> Mohammad
[04:19] <celthunder> kazuhiko: what drive did you install grub to and whats the error and what version of grub/etc
[04:19] <taglass> harushimo: You have to have th esdk to use the plugin
[04:19] <celthunder> harushimo: that's up to you but you need the SDK either way
[04:19] <harushimo> that is what I thought
[04:20] <Froq_> where can i get the needed driver for the magic touchpad that apple sells?
[04:20] <harushimo> I just want to make sure. Thank you
[04:20] <_genuser_> guys anyone using netbuntu? the new launcher is too annoying. how to turn it off?
[04:20] <wolfric> celthunder: you may not.
[04:20] <celthunder> _genuser_: launcher for what?
[04:20] <unforgiven512> Is there a known solution or workaround for the "deadzone" in the middle of my screen (using Ubuntu 11.04)?
[04:20]  * WebDawg http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin-laden-killed/story?id=13505703&page=2
[04:20] <newb_> celthunder: I will not paste now because I'm in another pc (the error is at netbook). But yes, I have 3 process for pulseaudio
[04:20] <Flannel> WebDawg: Not here, thanks.
[04:20] <celthunder> newb_: kill them all
[04:20] <xangua> _genuser_: only ubuntu support here
[04:21] <kazuhiko> celthunder: the error message is ..  "error: invalid arch independent ELF magic:
[04:21] <Froq_> where can i get the needed driver for the magic touchpad that apple sells?
[04:21] <celthunder> kazuhiko: did you install 64 bit version on a 32 bit machine
[04:21] <WebDawg> Flannel, I think #ubuntu can make it.
[04:21] <newb_> celthunder: They start again with another PID :-S
[04:21] <Flannel> WebDawg: #ubuntu-offtopic please, not here.
[04:21] <kazuhiko> celthunder: 64bit
[04:22] <newb_> celthunder: Maybe gnome is starting them?
[04:22] <celthunder> kazuhiko: is the processor 32 only?
[04:22] <kazuhiko> no ,
[04:22] <faateh> Is there change between ubuntu and sabily. plz inform
[04:22] <_genuser_> xangua: not even netbuntu?
[04:22] <WebDawg> Flannel, If you think I did that on purpose.
[04:22] <celthunder> faateh: ? depends on your hardware/what you use
[04:22] <dibs> Why do people think ubuntu users care about american political bs? I have redraw issues I need to reolve ffs
[04:22] <kazuhiko> I use install to server IBM X3550M3
[04:22] <_genuser_> xangua: #netbuntu is empty.
[04:23] <_genuser_> I figured ubuntu users would be the ones using netbuntu.
[04:23] <celthunder> _genuser_: launcher for what? X? your WM? your question is a bit generic
[04:23] <_genuser_> celthunder: that is why I specifically said NETBUNTU.
[04:23] <Flannel> faateh: You're better off asking sabily people, they'll know what they changed.
[04:23] <tamara__> kolke drivers for ubuntu ?
[04:23] <_genuser_> it has a launcher that comes with the install for the netbooks. for easy app launching.
[04:24] <faateh> thanks Flannel:
[04:25] <tamara__> webcam kolke, i cant found drivers and i cant make it work
[04:25] <Ziber> So, my laptop (toshiba) is running extremely hot, at about 94C. Any ideas for fixing this?
[04:25] <celthunder> Ziber: laptop-mode-tools
[04:25] <celthunder> also acpi/apm
[04:26] <Ziber> packages?
[04:26] <DrMax> yo
[04:26] <celthunder> Ziber: i'm not on ubuntu so idk the relevant package names but acpi is pretty common service for monitoring stuff like temp/battery and laptop-mode-tools conrols fans/etc
[04:26] <marca311> i have a problem with my hotkeys and reassigning them, thanks in advance
[04:27] <Ziber> Will it monitor it, or solve it tho?
[04:27] <DrMax> the upgrade (to 11.04) crashed while building the kernel, leaving my boot disk without a usable kernel
[04:27] <DrMax> how do I recover from this ?
[04:27] <newb_> celthunder: Well, I've done some progress with your help. Now I need go, it's 00:26h and I need be up at 6:00 to work. I will let the other tests to tomorrow. Really thanks for your help :)
[04:27] <DrMax> (without reinstalling from scratch)
[04:27] <Bsims> How do I disable the disappering reapperaring slider in gtk
[04:27] <axisys> how do I enable automatic security update ?
[04:27] <celthunder> DrMax: boot to a cd and chroot to your system
[04:28] <celthunder> DrMax: then build your kernel and should be fine
[04:28] <DrMax> ok?
[04:28] <DrMax> how do I do that?
[04:29] <marca311> I need to reassign a hotkey on my tablet pc, however, it seems to be hotwired into the occupation of turning my touchpad on and off
[04:29] <kazuhiko> celthunder: usind cpu is Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5620
[04:29] <kazuhiko> i use
[04:29] <marca311> (the ironic part is, i don't have a touchpad)
[04:29] <celthunder> DrMax: uhm boot to usb/cd ...go to a terminal instead of using the setup then type mkdir /tmp/a /tmp/b then do mount /dev/<yourhddwith/boot> /tmp/a  then mount /dev/<yourhddpartitionwith /> /tmp/b
[04:29]  * Bsims grrs and hates the Unity changes to gtk, how do I disable the now you see it now you don't slider bars
[04:29] <celthunder> DrMax: then chroot /tmp/b
[04:30] <celthunder> er shit sorry drmax change /tmp/a to /tmp/b/a
[04:30] <celthunder> in all above references
[04:30] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder on my other version 10.04 I get this  E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[04:30] <DrMax> ok, I only need one
[04:30] <celthunder> then chroot to it
[04:30] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero keeps telling me that I need a nonexistent package, two actually. DVDauthor and MPlex, but I can't find them anywhere
[04:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> where is the #ubuntu log kept?
[04:30] <Bsims> something chaged pan and other gtk2 apps you have to hold your mouse and hover to make the slider appear now how do I fix it to the way it was
[04:30] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: ok did you check for held packages ? someone i weas helping the other day i remember the solution for if not
[04:31] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder how do I
[04:31] <celthunder> DrMax: from the chroot finish ompiling your kernel
[04:31] <DrMax> ok, I have / (and /boot) as /tmp/a
[04:31] <celthunder> DrMax: chroot /tmp/a
[04:32] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: ?
[04:32] <DrMax> ok, done
[04:32] <celthunder> DrMax: now either reinstlal the kernal package or go to kernel.org in links/lynx /using wget and dl a kernel source and start compiling
[04:32] <Bsims> how do I disable the now you see it now you don't slider bars...
[04:33] <trism> Bsims: sudo apt-get remove liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0; will disable the overlay scrollbars
[04:33] <celthunder> DrMax: to reinstall the package dpkg -i /var/apt-cache/whateveryour kernelpackage is
[04:33] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: no held packages?
[04:33] <DrMax> ok, thanks
[04:33] <eiriksvin>  there, now its all smooth but my graphics drivers are saying: This driver is activated but not currently in use.< it was fine before i updated, i could run it perfectly in the highest setting
[04:33] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder check for held packages.  escuse me been drinking a lil tonight confused right now :)
[04:33] <DrMax> let met try this
[04:33] <marca311> bsims: try this solution i found on google: http://ubuntu4beginners.blogspot.com/2011/04/disable-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu.html
[04:33] <DrMax> (first must finish the update/upgrade)
[04:33] <redgone> join #backtrack-linux
[04:33] <redgone> join #backtrack
[04:33] <trism> Bsims: and sudo apt-get install overlay-scrollbar; will bring them back
[04:34] <redgone> oops
[04:34] <redgone> very sorry
[04:34] <celthunder> redgone: backtrack is cool...kind of shitty for a daily distro though
[04:34] <celthunder> good for what it's made for though
[04:34] <DrMax> celthunder : that would avoid me restoring backups ...
[04:34] <shigutso> how can I configure Unity's sidebar to always wiggle/pulse icons until I click it? didn't find this option in Compiz Manager :(
[04:34] <DrMax> (I do have backups :p)
[04:34] <Froq_> where can i get the needed driver for the magic touchpad that apple sells?
[04:34] <celthunder> DrMax: ?
[04:34] <multipass_> is there any way to properly re enable "edge flipping by cursor and window dragging" in 11.04?
[04:35] <DrMax> celthunder : if I can't restore the kernel, the other option is a clean reinstall
[04:35] <DrMax> which I don't want to do
[04:35] <Ziber> Rather than installing more system monitor tools, does anyone have a fix for it overheting?
[04:35] <marca311> shigutso: What are you talking about?
[04:36] <eiriksvin>  there, now its all smooth but my graphics drivers are saying: This driver is activated but not currently in use.< it was fine before i updated, i could run it perfectly in the highest setting can someone help me?
[04:36] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder forgive me for this long post:   Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com fiesty/non-free Sources                          Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2) Fetched 2,376B in 7s (323B/s)                                                   W: GPG error: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com fiesty Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 W: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dis
[04:37] <shigutso> marca311, when a window receives the Urgent state, Unity's sidebar makes the icon pulse or wiggle. But it does only once. I'd like to keep animating until I click it, because it's hard to notice the tiny blue arrow to know new stuff is going on, like IM messaging, etc
[04:37] <eiriksvin> im in classic mode because the other one is a little sluggish
[04:37] <crlcan81> eiriksvin a lot of us are having that issue too.
[04:37] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder is that it?
[04:37] <eiriksvin> nVIDIA not doing good?
[04:37] <crlcan81> I'm in unity right now, just because I've gotten used to the setup.
[04:38] <crlcan81> I have a GTS 250 too so it's not a ram issue.
[04:38] <napster00> i was upgrading to 11.04
[04:38] <hidn_shadows> Brasero is giving me trouble, it's requesting 2 packages that I can't find. Can anyone actually help me? Or should I come back another time? It seems everyone's watching the news
[04:38] <crlcan81> if you haven't really gotten a chance to look at the unity setup, you may want to before you do.
[04:38] <napster00> but in betwwen i run a command apt-get clean
[04:38] <marca311> shigutso: ah, hmm, i don't know, have you tried the almighty google?
[04:39] <celthunder> crlcan81: gts 250's shouldn't lag just loading the ui...
[04:39] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder or this The following packages have been kept back:   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[04:39] <shigutso> marca311, yes, but no success :(
[04:39] <drAg> Hello
[04:39] <napster00> how to fix
[04:39] <crlcan81> ahh, loading the interface no, but moving windows around.. compiz is laggy.
[04:39] <CoinOp> I updated from Update Manager and I'm getting a Stopping automatic crash report generation fail.
[04:39] <drAg> No
[04:39] <drAg> Compiz isn't laggy
[04:39] <hroi> hello
[04:39] <celthunder> dreamsforgotten: idk i didn't read the first link
[04:39] <cb-linux> Hello
[04:39] <crlcan81> Well moving my windows around is.
[04:39] <drAg> Compiz isn't laggy
[04:39] <linuxuz3r> hey
[04:40] <drAg> Wobbly Windows goes fast
[04:40] <cb-linux> having trouble with gnome3
[04:40] <drAg> Me too
[04:40] <linuxuz3r> whats a good way to remove packages and unused dependencies
[04:40] <crlcan81> I don't use wobbly windows.
[04:40] <dreamsforgotten> hidn_shadows be patient wait a sec then re-post the ?  They are ppl in here getting around, you should get help
[04:40] <hroi> anybody know how I can get the good old normal gnome desktop,
[04:40] <marca311> shigutso: k, maybe try someone with some more compiz experience, because i don't know much about it
[04:40] <drAg> I do
[04:40] <hroi> I have this funny notebook one
[04:40] <drAg> Every second, someone joins
[04:40] <n-iCe> Ok, this is really annoying, how the heck do I go to my desktop without minimize windows
[04:40] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder i did sudo apt-get upgrade and it's actually running
[04:40] <napster00> how to undo the previous command
[04:40] <dreamsforgotten> celthunder seems just the gui was erroring
[04:40] <cb-linux> when strating your session choose from a lista on the botom af the screen Ubuntu Clasic instead of just Ubuntu
[04:41] <hidn_shadows> dreamsforgotten, alright. I'm just kinda stressed, I need brasero because I have a deadline to burn these dvds... but thanks.
[04:41] <drAg> Im glad I turned that off
[04:41] <eiriksvin> i guess ill just go play Regnum:(
[04:41] <marca311> n-iCe: i don't see how anything else would be possible
[04:41] <drAg> Whats Regnum????
[04:41] <n-iCe> marca311: I found how
[04:41] <eiriksvin> i wanna play RoM so bad
[04:41] <marca311> n-iCe: k
[04:41] <linuxuz3r> whats a good way to remove packages and unused dependencies
[04:41] <shigutso> marca311, ok thanks :)
[04:42] <crlcan81> it's snapping windows that's lagging it.
[04:42] <dreamsforgotten> hidn_shadows I only say that because I had to ask a few times.  Glad I stayed I got the help I needed!
[04:42] <cdg> Wow I'm impressed, I think unity blows away gnome shell.
[04:42] <crlcan81> I just disabled snapping and enabled wobbly, it's running a lot smoother.
[04:42] <marca311> linuxuz3r: sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:42] <drAg> No
[04:42] <drAg> Its sudo apt-get clean
[04:42] <marca311> really?
[04:42] <cb-linux> question, I did some updates and now my gnome shell tryes to open files and directories with Archive manager
[04:42] <cb-linux> how can I fix
[04:43] <drAg> i know how
[04:43] <hroi> cb-linux:   I dont have any lista desktop choice on my login screen
[04:43] <napster00> can anybody help me
[04:43] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, Brasero package question on 10.04. I try to burn a video DVD, and it says I need packages "MPlex" and "DVDauthor". Where can I find said packages, or alternatives? Or where can I find a video burning program that works with DVD+RWs?
[04:43] <drAg> just message me privately
[04:43] <_genuser_> oh well.
[04:43] <cb-linux> hroi: when you select the user one will appear below
[04:44] <drAg> MPlex and DVDauthor source: deb http://archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty universe
[04:44] <hidn_shadows> drAg I use lucid, not natty...
[04:45] <hroi> cb-linux:  you just saved my life, and earned me an hour sleep, thanks!
[04:45] <marca311> i need to remap a hotkey that is currently assigned to touchpad disable, however i do not have a touchpad and this is really annoying when using the screen rotate button
[04:45] <cb-linux> no problem
[04:45] <cloud9> my googleearth now working.....
[04:45] <cloud9> tnx
[04:46] <drAg> ok
[04:46] <CoinOp> Is there an ubuntu help channel?
[04:46] <drAg> For Lucid, the source is: deb http://archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid universe
[04:46] <drAg> AKA: 10.04 LTS
[04:46] <drAg> im using 10.10
[04:47] <marca311> coinop: this is the ubuntu irc help channel
[04:47] <hroi> cb-linux:   ahh but unfortunately this did not fix my problem with starting ooffice applications ...
[04:47] <Froq_> so what is a good launcher for 11.04?  I want to hit a combo key and bring up a launcher.
[04:47] <drAg> Compiz
[04:47] <CoinOp> marca311: Ah, I thought it was just a general channel. Thanks.
[04:47] <crlcan81> awesome..
[04:47] <napster00> marca311: is there any way to undo apt-get clean command :P
[04:47] <drAg> No
[04:47] <drAg> Sorry mate
[04:47] <crlcan81> it works.
[04:47] <Cairo> woot
[04:48] <Cairo> i can run desktop using vesa
[04:48] <Froq_> drAg, you saying compiz is a good launcher?
[04:48] <drAg> yes
[04:48] <drAg> theres a feauture called keyboard shortcuts
[04:48] <Cairo> lol
[04:48] <hroi> all my soffice applications hang on oosplash.bin  ... and nothing happens
[04:48] <Froq_> drAg, how do I install it?  is it just sudo apt-get install compiz?
[04:48] <drAg> example I set it up
[04:48] <drAg> yes
[04:48] <ferris-> how do I get to "System-->Administration-->Networking" in Natty?
[04:48] <CoinOp> I updated from Update Manager and now I'm stuck on a diagnostics screen after booting from grub. Whats my next step?
[04:48] <marca311> napster00: yes, look at the terminal you just used, and reinstall the things that dissappeared by mistake
[04:48]  * crlcan81 wonders if anyone here using unity has tried using desktop cube?
[04:48] <drAg> Easy
[04:49] <marca311> napster00: or look at a log
[04:49] <napster00> marca311: where i can find the logs
[04:49] <tamara__> kolke webcam drivers for ubuntu?
[04:49] <FatsDT> Is there somewhere on the net that explains the differences between the different kernel image packages in the repos?
[04:49] <ferris-> I do not have the old gnome desktop... it is the new one with the icons on the side but there are no system or administration icons
[04:49] <_joey> I want to increase time before gnome sessiion is locked. How do I change it?
[04:50] <_joey> locked by password
[04:50] <drAg> Who needs help here?
[04:50] <ferris-> me
[04:50] <cb-linux> me
[04:50] <crlcan81> I'm curious as to unity working with desktop cube.
[04:50] <drAg> Ok whats your problems????
[04:50] <CoinOp> Here also.
[04:50] <Ziber> Alright, so I fixed the fan problem, now my sound (I'm listening to music) is scratchy every few mins...
[04:50] <drAg> OK, what are you're problems????
[04:50] <drAg> Just pm me
[04:50] <cb-linux> got gnome 3 and i cant open my directories
[04:50] <ferris-> as with navigating the new system and also getting my wifi card to work(which is the real prob)
[04:50] <CoachJ> for those of you buried in ubuntu and not watching the news osama bin laden has been killed by USA troops--justice is done
[04:50] <marca311> napster00: hmm, i seem to have made a mistake, there is no log for terminal unless you count the command history
[04:51] <CoinOp>  I updated from Update Manager and now I'm stuck on a diagnostics screen after booting from grub. It says automatic crash report generation FAIL.
[04:51] <OY1R> trying to scan an image but as soon as i click scan i get "job done" and nothing happens. (11,04)
[04:52] <napster00> marca311: i have almost done 90% upgraded , i don't want to reinstall 400 mb again with ma 5kbps speed:P
[04:52] <napster00> marca311: please help , if there is any way to get all back
[04:52] <marca311> napster00: however, if you go to /var/log/apt, you can find the history of all apt commands
[04:53] <kingofswords> my download speed kepts dying after a few minutes?
[04:53] <marca311> napster00: sorry, no, unless you spend several hours attempting data recovery
[04:54] <marca311> Hello, I need to remap a hotkey that is currently assigned to touchpadtoggle, however I do not have a touchpad and this is really annoying when using the screen rotate button, thanks in advance
[04:55] <jw_> bin laden is dead. :)
[04:55] <marca311> jw_: ?
[04:56] <ayecee> jw_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:56] <drAg> Who needs more help???
[04:56] <kingofswords> how?
[04:56] <drAg> I'll be here until 11:00 PM so be quick
[04:56] <crlcan81> I do drAg
[04:56] <drAg> ok
[04:56] <crlcan81> IF you have used unity and desktop cube
[04:56] <drAg> Yes
[04:57] <drAg> I have used Unity and Desktop Cube
[04:57] <drAg> and Desktop Wall
[04:57] <crlcan81> so it's possible to disable desktop wall and still use unity fine?
[04:57] <multipass_> is there any way to get edge flipping working in 11.04??
[04:57] <jw_> wish there was more options to customize unity, any plans to release an update?
[04:58] <CoinOp> drAg: I updated from Update Manager and now I'm stuck on a diagnostics screen after booting from grub. It says automatic crash report generation FAIL.
[04:58] <tamara__> drivers for kolke webcam?
[04:58] <celthunder> CoinOp: what else does it say
[04:58] <jw_> Also how do you get the additional plugins to work, ie Burn and Explode?
[04:59] <itsTOREN> anyone have luck with xcompmgr and fluxbox?
[04:59] <drAg> yes
[04:59] <drAg> well not much
[04:59] <cb-linux> txs to drAg for helping me
[04:59] <aauthor> jw_: Are you talking about window effects?
[04:59] <jw_> yes
[04:59] <drAg> no problem mate
[05:00] <cb-linux> one more thing not much of a problem justa  doubt
[05:00] <drAg> You have compiz???
[05:00] <aauthor> jw_: Are you using the ccsm?
[05:00] <itsTOREN> im trying to get a dock that requires transparency
[05:00] <CoinOp> celthunder: Well its says everythingthing else is okay. Just that one fail, and then nothing progresses.
[05:00] <cb-linux> anybody knows if i can have compiz work in gnomoe shell
[05:00] <jw_> drag: yes Aauthor yes
[05:00] <Souperman> you have to activate compsition itsmegb
[05:00] <itsTOREN> no im running fluxbox
[05:00] <Souperman> you have to activate compsition itsTOREN
[05:00] <aauthor> jw_: Do you not see the options or are you having trouble getting them to work?
[05:01] <crlcan81> What all besides enabling unity after compiz disables it, logging back out and back in do I have to do to get desktop cube working normally drAg
[05:01] <DrMax> celthunder : did not work :/
[05:01] <itsTOREN> ill run xcompmgr and then my dock but no transparency, just a black bar
[05:01] <crlcan81> It won't let me use the controls it used to.
[05:01] <jw_> I had to download the additional effects plug in, I see the options, but they're not working. When I enable them the file menu bar disappears
[05:01] <celthunder> DrMax: what didn't?
[05:02] <crlcan81> itsTOREN: you using unity 2d, ubuntu, or ubuntu classic?
[05:02] <karthick87> Any guide to setup apt-get cacher server ?
[05:02] <DrMax> just chrooting and reconfiguring the kernel
[05:02] <celthunder> DrMax: did you make your initramfs?
[05:02] <DrMax> it failed because it could not mount /proc/
[05:02] <itsTOREN> ubuntu
[05:02] <DrMax> hmm no
[05:02] <celthunder> DrMax: ok
[05:02] <crlcan81> weird.. you should be able to get a 3d effect then. That's using unity
[05:02] <DrMax> but the problem is that it did not build the modules (or something)
[05:02] <crlcan81> is the third party driver enabled for your graphics card?
[05:02] <celthunder> and in /etc/fstab your line for proc is waht
[05:02] <itsTOREN> yes
[05:02] <celthunder> DrMax: mkinitcpio
[05:02] <crlcan81> ..ok really weird.
[05:03] <celthunder> DrMax: ? that?
[05:03] <DrMax> let met see, it's rebooting
[05:04] <tamara__> anyone have any idea about kolke webcams drivers?
[05:04] <celthunder> tamara__: what's the issue with them?
[05:04] <aauthor> jw_: Which window effects in particular are you trying to use?
[05:05] <DrMax> nothing for /proc in fstab
[05:05] <drAg> Sorry
[05:05] <drAg> But Im helping 4 people
[05:05] <furous> anyone know why unity would work from a live  cd but not when the system is upgraded on the hdd?
[05:05] <drAg> right now
[05:06] <crlcan81> I'll just deal with wall..
[05:06] <drAg> Im helping 4 people please wait until I tell you when 1 person was helped
[05:06] <celthunder> DrMax: mount proc /prpc
[05:07] <celthunder> er
[05:07] <drAg> Ok
[05:07] <adymitruk> Stuck on sh:grub> after upgrade to 11.4
[05:07] <drAg> Now I helped the 4 people
[05:07] <celthunder> DrMax: mount proc /proc sorr
[05:07] <adymitruk> Can any one help?
[05:07] <drAg> I can
[05:07] <DrMax> must specify type
[05:07] <celthunder> drAg: i need help
[05:07] <celthunder> DrMax: -t procfs
[05:07] <taglass> It's much better if you help people in channel instead of through PM because a: People can verify if you're BSing and b: other people might have the same questions.
[05:07] <celthunder> drAg: i need help
[05:08] <drAg> Yes
[05:08] <adymitruk> drAg: what do I do?
[05:08] <DrMax> type is wrong or procfs not supported
[05:08] <celthunder> drAg: do you provide psychological help for the demented
[05:08] <pepsi_> mp3
[05:08] <celthunder> DrMax: you compiled your kernel wrong then
[05:09] <celthunder> DrMax: put yes for procfs support
[05:09] <drAg> FOR ALL PEOPLE WITH BOOT PROBLEMS LISTEN TO ME
[05:09] <aauthor> furous: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[05:09] <sheldon> anyone know what is up with Dual monitors on Nvidia drivers, on  11.04? My dual monitors have not worked correctly since the upgrade
[05:09] <drAg> If you want grub to be fixed, you need to re-install
[05:09] <furous> The graphics on the motherboard is Intel GMA X4500
[05:09] <tamara__> celthunder it cant work
[05:09] <drAg> If you dual-booted with another OS
[05:09] <Souperman> sheldon, all the people is having problems whit nvidia drivers, check the forums
[05:10] <drAg> just use the other OS to make to resuce CD
[05:10] <tamara__> cant find drivers in internet
[05:10] <drAg> I can help
[05:10] <paideia> hi I'm trying to use the Tor network with firefox (torbutton plugin) and when I switch it on and I attempt to connect to any website I get "the proxy is refusing connections" error. Then when I check Firefox's Connection Settings I see that it changed to manual proxy configuration <IP_ADDRESS> 8118. What am I doing wrong? I have tor and polipo daemons running and I have saved the polipo rc file into my home folder.
[05:10] <aauthor> furous: Did you get an error telling you that Unity cannot work during this session?
[05:10] <celthunder> drAg: you don't necessarily need a rescue cd to fix boot issues
[05:10] <sheldon> I spent some time on forums earlier today, but wasn't able to find any posts about this problem
[05:10] <celthunder> DrMax: how did you reinstall the kernel
[05:11] <DrMax> celthunder : I booted from live CD. mkdir /tmp/a, mounted dev/sda onto it
[05:11] <sheldon> anyone have a link to something official?
[05:11] <crlcan81> When you're available drAg, do you have any experience with g110 usb keyboards and pnp audio using headphones on 11.04? It did it on 10.04 through to this too.
[05:11] <DrMax> dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-generic
[05:11] <furous> unity worked perfectly from the live cd, no errors...
[05:11] <drAg> Yes
[05:11] <drAg> IM AVAILDABLE
[05:11] <celthunder> DrMax: mount /proc and /dev in your chroot then redo the kernel
[05:11] <drAg> 4 SLOTS FREE
[05:11] <drAg> 0 ACTIVE
[05:11] <celthunder> DrMax: sorry i probably should have said that
[05:11] <DrMax> hmm ok?
[05:11] <Jordan_U> drAg: Please stop.
[05:11] <tamara__> cellthunder
[05:11] <DrMax> how?
[05:11] <crlcan81> Have you ever had the sound preferences crash when logging out back in when using headphones on a usb keyboard's headphone jack?
[05:12] <furous> The system on the hdd did not come from the live cd though, it was an upgrade...
[05:12] <drAg> IM FULLY AVAILDABLE which means that I can help 4 people
[05:12] <celthunder> drAg: help me..stop spamming the freaking channel
[05:12] <sheldon> multitasking
[05:12] <crlcan81> Every time I log out and log back in for something the pnp audio doesn't work, drAg, sorry to keep pestering.
[05:12] <aauthor> furous: Did you get an error message when you tried to log in?
[05:12] <Atomicspin> Does anyone know of an issue where the backlight on a laptop screen won't come on?
[05:12] <drAg> Yes
[05:13] <Atomicspin> Is there a fix?
[05:13] <drAg> Just go to Monitor Preferences
[05:13] <celthunder> Ato/b 22
[05:13] <drAg> an select use backlight
[05:13] <paideia> hi I'm trying to use the Tor network with firefox (torbutton plugin) and when I switch it on and I attempt to connect to any website I get "the proxy is refusing connections" error. Then when I check Firefox's Connection Settings I see that it changed to manual proxy configuration <IP_ADDRESS> 8118. What am I doing wrong? I have tor and polipo daemons running and I have saved the polipo rc file into my home folder.
[05:13] <itsTOREN> anyone running fluxbox with a dock like awn or cairo-dock
[05:13] <drAg> no
[05:13] <furous> When logging in to the hdd system, it said the system couldn't display unity.  But why would i display via the live cd?
[05:13] <multipass_> is there some kind of compizconfig for 11.04?
[05:13] <drAg> yes
[05:13] <drAg> Advanced Compiz Settings Manager
[05:13] <Nisstyre> Osama Bin Laden was an ardent user of gnome3 according to Al Jazeera
[05:14] <multipass_> ccsm?
[05:14] <aauthor> furous: Have you checked to see if you have any propriety driver available?
[05:14] <drAg> Yes
[05:14] <Atomicspin> drAg:  I don't see that option in there.
[05:14] <multipass_> isnt there a built in one?
[05:14] <Sharpshooter761> hello world
[05:14] <Sharpshooter761> :D
[05:14]  * crlcan81 has cairo on unity Toren
[05:14] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: hello
[05:14] <aauthor> Hello Sharp:
[05:14] <DrMax> celthunder : how do I mount / without mounting /proc/ as well?
[05:14] <LULLING_HARD> Nisstyre: yeah and I heard he didnt like Unity, it got in his way..
[05:14] <celthunder> DrMax: you need to mount /proc...
[05:14] <furous> no extra hard ware drivers listed for this hardware...
[05:14] <celthunder> not unmount it
[05:14] <Atomicspin> drAg:  There's nothing referring to it.
[05:15] <DrMax> when I chroot /tmp/a
[05:15] <DrMax> /proc stops working
[05:15] <taglass> Atomicspin: Check under Power Management
[05:15] <itsTOREN> unity is stupid
[05:16] <crlcan81> what's fluxbox like?
[05:16] <_genuser_> when doing an upgrade, can't you upgrade to the latest?
[05:16] <celthunder> DrMax: mount it before joining the chroot hang on
[05:16] <itsTOREN> simple and minimalistic easy to config
[05:16] <_genuser_> I just did an upgrade and it says there's another. which would suck 'coz that's two of them in a row.
[05:17] <multipass_> what is the feature that makes a winodw maximize when u drag it to the top of screen?
[05:17] <celthunder> DrMax: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html read that
[05:17] <DrMax> celthunder : thx
[05:17] <DrMax> let's see
[05:17] <Atomicspin> msg drAg Still don't see it in Power Management.  On Natty btw.
[05:17] <Atomicspin> That's what I get for using BitchX
[05:18] <celthunder> lol
[05:18] <aauthor> furous: Hmm... I'm sorry, I don't think I have an answer for you.  (Though that certainly doesn't mean that one doesn't exsist.)
[05:18] <taglass> Atomicspin: Some people are reporting success in this thread by booting with nomodeset option.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1730314
[05:18] <kaushal> Hi
[05:19] <kaushal> whats the other name if its not a classic mode ?
[05:19] <kaushal> in 11.04
[05:19] <cb-linux> how can i set the number of workspaces in gnome 3
[05:19] <DrMax> celthunder : getting somewhere :p
[05:19] <celthunder> DrMax: sorry...i shoulda specified you'd need those the first time
[05:20] <taglass> cb-linux: Gnome 3 autocreates workspaces as you need them.  I'm not sure that you can set a specific amount.
[05:20] <DrMax> well, maybe you forgot
[05:20] <furous> all indcations suggest that it should work and the live cd demonstrates that, perhaps I should do a reinstall instead of the upgrade, perhaps something went wrong during the upgrade
[05:20] <DrMax> I just didn't know how to do this :p
[05:20] <_genuser_> hello people.
[05:20] <celthunder> DrMax: more like i just didn't think about mentioningi t
[05:20] <DrMax> ok, so grub seem to have found my previously installed kernel
[05:20] <cb-linux> taglass i ment in order to have the compix cube working
[05:20] <_genuser_> can you not upgrade to the latest one shot?
[05:20] <Atomicspin> taglass:  Can you send the link one more time?  lost it.
[05:20] <_genuser_> after upgrading once, it now says there's a newer version.
[05:20] <_genuser_> that's like two upgrades.
[05:20] <aauthor> furous: I did encounter problems during the upgrade, and ended up doing a clean install which worked out fine for me.
[05:20] <DrMax> I should be able to boot from an older kernel
[05:21] <aauthor> furous: I looked it up, and your graphics card is supported.
[05:21] <crlcan81> what did you upgrade from/to the first time?
[05:21] <celthunder> furous: what's your issue sorry wasn't paing attention
[05:21] <celthunder> _genuser_: what version did you start out on when upgrading
[05:21] <aauthor> celthunder: furous is getting and error when he logs in that Unity can't start in this session.
[05:22] <_genuser_> 10.04 netbuntu edition. it might be a regular install with special gnome reconfigured.
[05:22] <celthunder> aauthor: is there a conflicting entry in .xinitrc or in xsessions
[05:22] <aauthor> celthunder: But it worked fine for him in the liveCD
[05:22] <_genuser_> to 10.10. and now it find 11.xx.
[05:22] <furous> celthunder:unity worked via a lie cd but when the system was upgraded unity no longer worked...
[05:22] <celthunder> aauthor: furous conflicting entry in xsessions/xinitrc/etc
[05:22] <hroi> how do I find out if my ubuntu has Java JRE ?
[05:23] <taglass> hroi: which java
[05:23] <celthunder> furous: aauthor also login manager being used?
[05:23] <furous> How do I fix a conflictin entry?
[05:23] <DrMax> celthunder : THANKS A LOT
[05:23] <LLStarks> america! **** yeah!
[05:23] <celthunder> DrMax: sarcastic or happy?
[05:23] <DrMax> happy
[05:23] <celthunder> lol ok
[05:23] <taglass> hroi: should say /usr/bin/java if you do
[05:24] <LLStarks> kill -9 osama
[05:24] <DrMax> well, lost minor settings, but, meh, whatever :p
[05:24] <kyubutsu> hroi: type about:plugins in the browser
[05:24] <furous> have auto login for the main user... but  when switching user, same problem...
[05:24] <hroi> taglass:   java jre for the open office
[05:24] <celthunder> furous: ok login manager used?
[05:24] <drAg> I dare everyone to run this in Terminal: killall Compiz
[05:24] <mdel> drAg: really dude
[05:24] <drAg> and killall Metacity
[05:24] <mdel> really
[05:24] <cb-linux> i guess the compiz cube does not work in gnome shell
[05:24] <drAg> yes
[05:24] <mdel> what a fucking nboob
[05:24] <celthunder> drAg: why? i don't even use compiz and it sucks but if people want to use it let them
[05:24] <mdel> yes thats right. nboob
[05:25] <drAg> then do killall bash
[05:25] <crlcan81> you're a masochist.
[05:25] <hroi> taglass: ok I have java 1.6
[05:25] <celthunder> mdel: he's being a douche anyway, pming people etc...
[05:25] <Rehan> if I have Xorg.0.log, Xorg.0.log,old, Xorg.1.log, and Xorg.1.log.old , which one is the latest one?
[05:25] <IdleOne> !language | mdel
[05:25] <celthunder> anyway
[05:25] <DrMax> celthunder : I did say thanks a lot, not "thanks a lot, <expletive>" :p
[05:25] <drAg> Who uses openOffice.org here?
[05:25] <taglass> cb-linux: Compiz cube requires compiz which is mutually exclusive with gnome shell.
[05:25] <crlcan81> I used to.
[05:25] <drAg> openOffice.org sucks
[05:25] <furous> how do I know if I use login manager?!
[05:26] <kaushal> whats the other name if its not a classic mode in 11.04 ?
[05:26] <crlcan81> hey I use whatever ubuntu has installed.
[05:26] <drAg> In 11.04 theres five options
[05:26] <aauthor> furous: Have you done anything to change how you log in since you installed ubuntu?
[05:26] <drAg> which are:
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu
[05:26] <crlcan81> kaushal: how so? on login it's either Ubuntu, or Ubuntu classic
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu Classica
[05:26] <DrMax> celthunder : I upgraded a couple of machines, but that was the first one that crashed during the building of the kernel
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu No Effects
[05:26] <DrMax> but now it works much better
[05:26] <cb-linux> txs taglass
[05:26] <drAg> Ubuntu Safe Mode
[05:26] <drAg> and Ubuntu Desktop
[05:26] <crlcan81> recovery console :P
[05:26] <taglass> !spam | drag
[05:26] <drAg> I was helping
[05:26] <celthunder> aauthor: furous uhm can you boot to init 3 and type startx please
[05:27] <_genuser_> man internet going nuts.
[05:27] <celthunder> aauthor: furous you can just telinit 3 otherwise and do it from there
[05:27] <_genuser_> rather connectivity
[05:27] <drAg> Who needs help???
[05:27] <furous> I was using 10.04, auto login for main user, upgraded to 10.10 today and then onto 11.04 with no change to the auto logi
[05:27] <aauthor> !spam | drAg
[05:27] <celthunder> furous: aauthor try the above
[05:27] <celthunder> aauthor: can we get someone to kick him?
[05:28] <furous> Sorry, i dont quite understand what boot to init 3 means?
[05:28] <marca311> Hello, I am having trouble regarding hotkeys in the way that my screen rotate key is primarily mapped to touchpadtoggle, this is rather annoying when rotating the screen, thanks in advance
[05:28] <drAg> I do
[05:28] <celthunder> furous: ctrl alt f1 login type telinit 3
[05:28] <celthunder> furous: then type startx
[05:28] <celthunder> what's the result
[05:28] <drAg> For the Windows LOSERS, I don't be scared to run /con/con
[05:28] <furous> startxmorgan
[05:29] <Sharpshooter761> oh, i realized a neat trick in unix, the middle mousebutton can act as a cop-paste key for text, but is not in ubuntu 11.04
[05:29] <rocksenkreuz> hi
[05:29] <celthunder> !kick drAg
[05:29] <Sharpshooter761> copy-paste*
[05:29] <crlcan81> drAg stop, you're being a unbelievable dooouuuuu$$^
[05:29] <celthunder> Rockj: hi
[05:29] <taglass> Sharpshooter761: Sure you can.  I middle paste all of the time.
[05:29] <drAg> Okay.
[05:30] <DrMax> celthunder : srly, that made my day
[05:30] <DrMax> thx again
[05:30] <furous> i have done this
[05:30] <Sharpshooter761> hmm, now all of a sudden it works fine. :/
[05:30] <celthunder> DrMax: np
[05:30] <taglass> Sharpshooter761: The problem you might be having is that their are actually 2 clipboards under X
[05:30] <Sharpshooter761> really?
[05:30] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: that's because you complained about it :)
[05:30] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: so it had to work
[05:30] <celthunder> furous: and result?
[05:30] <furous> .xauthority does not exist
[05:31] <Dice-Man> hi there
[05:31] <Sharpshooter761> no no no, tell me more, what are these two clipboards, and what are the differences, tell me everything
[05:31] <celthunder> furous: so make one
[05:31] <taglass> Sharpshooter761: One that stores stuff that you use ctrl c ctrl v on and one that holds the last highlighted text.
[05:31] <Dice-Man> i'm on ubuntu lucid lynx i want to compile the last rhythmbox version
[05:31] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: you can make as many clipboards as you want..theres 2 by default though
[05:31] <furous> so just create the folder?
[05:31] <celthunder> Dice-Man: install build-essential and go to rythmbox's site get the source extract and compile or use git/svn
[05:32] <Rehan> why does my X keep crashing like a mofo?
[05:32] <furous> how do I get out of init 3?!
[05:32] <celthunder> furous: it's a file so touch .xauthority
[05:32] <celthunder> furous: telinit 5
[05:32] <taglass> furous: telinit 5
[05:32] <_genuser_> man internet connection is going nuts
[05:32] <celthunder> furous: note telinit 5 won't work if startx didn't
[05:32] <celthunder> or it shouldn't
[05:32] <mr_fringe> bye
[05:32] <Sharpshooter761> thanks a tonne, celthunder, you are a very nice stranger.  and no, i will not accept candy
[05:33] <DrMax> ahah
[05:33] <taglass> celthunder: It will work, but it might not start X :)
[05:33] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: i have apple pie and caramels?
[05:33] <furous> telinit 5 does indeed not work...
[05:33] <Sharpshooter761> im canadian, for some reason i do not like apple pie. any other pie is great
[05:33] <celthunder> taglass: lol true enough telinit 5 without starting x kind of is telinit 3 though (unless he added something to his int
[05:33] <crlcan81> has anyone ever had an issue logging out and logging back in with headphones on a usb keyboard not being recognized? I've had that since 10.04, b ut only had this keyboard since 10.04
[05:33] <Sharpshooter761> i tend to choose pie because the cake is a lie
[05:33] <soreau> my panels aren't working in unity and I just want to log out (not reboot). How can I logout from CLI?
[05:34] <Sharpshooter761> panels are totally removed in unity :(
[05:34] <furous> So I should reboot to get out then?
[05:34] <drAg> :(
[05:34] <eigba_> celthunder, Runlevel is the word your looking for
[05:34] <_genuser_> soreau: you could just kill X.
[05:34] <drAg> Panels, being destroyed by Unity since October 2010
[05:34] <celthunder> eigba_: telinit just switches between runlevels
[05:34] <Eric__> ubuntu 10.10 wireless  adaptor not ready firmware missing.have now connected to the net with wir adaptor,how do I get the firmware please?
[05:35] <_genuser_> the ole panels were nice in unity, eh?
[05:35] <soreau> _genuser_: I started gnome-panel to access logout
[05:35] <celthunder> eigba_: though yeah i worded that badly
[05:35] <_genuser_> soreau: so you logged out finally?
[05:35] <celthunder> Eric__: what wireless adapter?
[05:36] <_genuser_> it's taking a while but the new unity in 10.10 is making sense.
[05:36] <_genuser_> and 11.04 is upgrading
[05:36] <Eric__> Celthunder_ intel mini adaptor
[05:36] <biffsharp> anyone have RTL8187 wireless chipset?
[05:37] <Omega> !wifi | biffsharp
[05:37] <celthunder> Eric__: so install intel-firmware or i2600 or whatever its called i think it's something i2600-fm?
[05:37] <Eric__> ineed something like device manager in windows
[05:37] <celthunder> Eric__: lshw
[05:37] <Sharpshooter761> question, how would i go about setting up an irc chat myself,
[05:38] <Sharpshooter761> i have a server and domainname already
[05:38] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: ircd?
[05:38] <_genuser_> the rtl818x is pretty common. it should have kernel support.
[05:38] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: pick an ircd software to run (preferably not unreal ) and install it configure it and start it
[05:38] <Sharpshooter761> sorry you guys have to put up with my lame questions XD
[05:38] <celthunder> Sharpshooter761: if you want services install those to
[05:38] <biffsharp> i can't figure out how to patch RTL8187 for aircrack
[05:38] <celthunder> and then link
[05:38] <drAg> No, Broadcom STA is more common on most laptops
[05:39] <furous> OK, so reboot it is then!
[05:39] <Sharpshooter761> cool, thanks once again
[05:39] <celthunder> furous: ?
[05:39] <itsTOREN> biffsharp : can u get the device into monitor mode?
[05:39] <furous> well I couldn't get out of that init 3 screen...
[05:39] <soreau> ugh, I selected ubuntu classic but it's still loading unity
[05:39] <celthunder> furous: stay there
[05:39] <soreau> What is the deal?
[05:39] <celthunder> furous:
[05:40] <biffsharp> well yes i can get it to do mon0 and airodump fine but not on a specific channel. its always fixed channel: -1
[05:40] <celthunder> furous: ok so while you're there....touch .xauthority
[05:40] <celthunder> (as your user in your users home dir
[05:40] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get a transparent screensaver?
[05:40] <itsTOREN> airodump --channel 7
[05:40] <itsTOREN> or what ever channel
[05:40] <biffsharp> yeah it doesnt work
[05:40] <coz_> ok guys,, I have a question:)  started gimp on this fresh install for the first time and it was a bit weird,, creatd a new user account and all was fine,  will the old command to purge gimps settins work on natty?
[05:40] <biffsharp> it will say fixed -1
[05:40] <celthunder> furous: capitalize the X .Xauthority sorry
[05:40] <celthunder> furous: then try
[05:40] <coz_> rather gnomes  settings
[05:41] <soreau> coz_: Hey, me first: I selected ubuntu classic but it's still loading unity
[05:41] <celthunder> furous: try running startx after doing that
[05:41] <soreau> What is going on with this thing?
[05:41] <celthunder> soreau: change it in xsessions or .xinitrc?
[05:42] <coz_> soreau, whoa... is the unity plugin enabled?
[05:42] <soreau> celthunder: Am I supposed to have to do that?
[05:42] <soreau> coz_: probably
[05:42] <coz_> soreau,  that would do it :)
[05:42] <celthunder> soreau: uhm its probably what your gui stuff is changing anyway
[05:42] <soreau> coz_: It doesn't start gnome-panel though
[05:43] <coz_> soreau,  restart x it s hould come back up
[05:43] <furous> it won't even go back to the prompt so that I can write anything!
[05:43] <soreau> coz_: I rebooted and it's still broken
[05:43] <coz_> soreau,   or  in terminal  gnome-panel & disown
[05:43] <Rehan> what log should I look at right after all of a sudden Ubuntu logs me out in the middle of something?
[05:44] <soreau> coz_: Well yea I know how to start it.. I just want to know why 'Ubuntu Classic' is still loading unity. It worked the first time I tried it but it's broken now
[05:44] <celthunder> Rehan: uhm what were you doing
[05:44] <Rehan> celthunder: thanks for helping
[05:44] <coz_> soreau,  that's puzzling,, it did happen to me once but it was because of the Unity plugin in ccsm
[05:44] <eiriksvin> does natty have a way to make classic ubuntu have transparent menus?
[05:44] <soreau> Rehan: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:44] <Rehan> celthunder: i was trying to get my virtual terminal to work... :/
[05:44] <soreau> Rehan: Or .old
[05:44] <celthunder> Rehan: not enough tty's?
[05:45] <Rehan> celthunder: i'm not sure what that means...
[05:45] <crlcan81> god so many choices in shells
[05:45] <celthunder> crlcan81: welcome to linux
[05:45] <celthunder> Rehan: uhm if you ran outo f vtty's your virtual terminal won't work
[05:45] <Rehan> celthunder: if I do CTRL+ALT+F1 it shows my regular desktop, on ctrl+alt+f2 it goes to a black screen
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: but its a blank screen, nothing on it
[05:46]  * crlcan81 nods, I just hadn't really done as much with it in Ubuntu as in Windows Xp, LOVE to alter shell in XP.
[05:46] <celthunder> Rehan: ...that's messed up... f6 should be your desktop and 1-5 should be terminals
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: yeah...it should be F7 was my desktop
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: err it used to be F7
[05:46] <celthunder> f7 f6 close enough
[05:46] <Rehan> celthunder: could i PM you if you're not terribly busy?
[05:47] <celthunder> Rehan: you could and if i were busy i wouldn't be idling here
[05:47] <ngc604> hello all
[05:47] <celthunder> ngc604: hi
[05:47] <ngc604> i have a quick question
[05:47] <celthunder> quick answer
[05:47] <furous> rebooted, did ctrl alt f1 again, did touch .Xauthority, and startx gives me"xauth: (stdin):2:unknown command
[05:47] <celthunder> there you go
[05:48] <celthunder> ok what's the permissions on your home dir
[05:48] <celthunder> furous: what's the permissions on your home dir an files in it...this is starting to look like it's having problems accessing those files
[05:49] <eiriksvin> does natty have a way to make classic ubuntu have transparent menus?
[05:49] <ngc604> i recently had my laptop stolen and i am very mad about it.  i dont have money to buy a new one.  but i do have money to buy something cheep.  i am looking at a rack mount server from pacificgeek.com.  a dual 3.06 zeon.  now i know server will run fine on that but will desktop run fine on it with being able to use it for daily activities?
[05:49] <furous> bare with me, rebooting again...
[05:49] <celthunder> ngc604: depending what you consider daily activities
[05:50] <drAg> Good Bye Everyone
[05:50] <ngc604> internet, viewing pics, and going as far as recording music
[05:50] <celthunder> ngc604: if you consider resursive compiling gcc a daily activity no if you consider normal things...you'd be fine
[05:50] <drAg> Im going offline since people think Im spamming
[05:50] <tmp__> hi all. does not display thumbnails of video files in Nautilus. How to fix this?
[05:50] <celthunder> drAg: good
[05:50] <Eric__> is there a add new hardware in ubuntu 10.10 to automatically find anad install hw?
[05:50] <d4gg3r> hey, I am new to unity, how can I get network manager applet back? or how can I manage applets?
[05:50] <celthunder> Eric__: ?
[05:50] <paideia> hi I'm trying to use the Tor network with firefox (torbutton plugin) and when I switch it on and I attempt to connect to any website I get "the proxy is refusing connections" error. Then when I check Firefox's Connection Settings I see that it changed to manual proxy configuration <IP_ADDRESS> 8118. What am I doing wrong? I have tor and polipo daemons running and I have saved the polipo rc file into my home folder.
[05:52] <furous> permission is to create and delete files, there is an .Xauthority file there [now?] and it has read and write permission
[05:52] <Eric__> cwlthunder_i am new to ubuntu,trying to get the wireless card going.don/t know where to start
[05:52] <crlcan81> xfce or lxde?
[05:52] <d4gg3r> how can I get network manager back?
[05:52] <celthunder> d4gg3r: install it
[05:52] <d4gg3r> it is installed, but does not show up!
[05:52] <celthunder> Eric__: lspci and look for it
[05:52] <d4gg3r> celthunder,
[05:53] <drAg> \ignore celthunder :D
[05:53] <celthunder> d4gg3r: sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[05:53] <celthunder> d4gg3r: then run network manager
[05:53] <celthunder> or whatever the executable is called
[05:53] <stercor> Where are the firewall settings in Ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[05:54] <cyrex> app
[05:54] <bazhang> stercor, iptables
[05:54] <cyrex> internet
[05:54] <cyrex> app/internet
[05:54] <bazhang> stercor, or install gufw if you need a graphical UI
[05:54] <d4gg3r> celthunder, the job is already running!
[05:54] <celthunder> d4gg3r: then run the executable for it whatever it's called
[05:54] <stercor> I'm trying what's been suggested.
[05:54] <cyrex> this ubuntu hlp?
[05:55] <bazhang> cyrex, yes
[05:55] <Gloopie> +   - + ~    ~ jihadgloopx
[05:55] <tmp__> Who knows to fix my problem? thumbnails of video files doesnt display in Nautilus.
[05:55] <celthunder> stercor: iptables -L
[05:55] <binox> intel 82852/855  is it blacklisted?  can i enable the drivers by altering x11/xorg.conf?  do i need another command after editing the file.
[05:56] <cyrex> i want my 10.10 bak  N i wiped hd 2 put on 11.4
[05:56] <cyrex> can sum 1 hlp me
[05:56] <binox> im on maverick
[05:56] <bazhang> cyrex, then install it
[05:56] <cyrex> wehow do i get 2 the wine folder in 11.4
[05:57] <celthunder> cyrex: cd .wine
[05:57] <cyrex> ye3s
[05:57] <interpolate> cd ~/.wine
[05:57] <blackshirt> hello
[05:57] <soreau> Hey guys, where is the 'Home' button in chromium?
[05:57] <iceroot> cyrex: can you use normal english please instead of "sum 1" "2" and so on?
[05:57] <cyrex> i wanna copy wow over 2 windows b4 reinstalling ubuntu
[05:58] <soreau> found it in settings
[05:58] <celthunder> cyrex: i agree with iceroot and install ntfs-3g and mount your windows drive and cp it over then
[05:59] <soreau> Now where is the Reload button in chromium?
[05:59] <interpolate> F5
[06:00] <samw3> Hello all.  Anyone know where Gnome stores the menu items in the Applications menu?
[06:00] <soreau> oh no wonder, it's 'under' the stop button
[06:01] <stercor> I installed gufw and ALLOW port 22 IN from Anywhere.  I opened up the router for port 22.  When I ssh localhost the message is: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused.
[06:02] <celthunder> stercor: hosts.allow sshd: ALL: ALL
[06:02] <cyrex> actually how do i get t0 the c drive in wine on ubuntu 11.4
[06:02] <cyrex> ??
[06:02] <stercor> celthunder: where?
[06:02] <furous> so i should focus on Xauthority as being the problem?
[06:02] <binox> after editing a .conf,  do  i need to chmod or anything like that to activate those changes.  im trying to enable the intel drivers on a 82852/855 video card on maverick.  do i need to  and may it cause system instability
[06:02] <celthunder> furous: what's your file permissions can you pastebin ls -al ~ please as your user
[06:03] <d4gg3r> celthunder, what executable should i run? there is nothing other than the service...
[06:03] <celthunder> stercor: vi /etc/hosts.allow
[06:03] <celthunder> stercor: and add sshd: ALL: ALL
[06:03] <stercor> celthunder: Ah. OK.
[06:03] <celthunder> d4gg3r: one moment i'll look it up
[06:03] <d4gg3r> celthunder, ok :)
[06:03] <samw3> cyrex: ~/.wine/drive_c
[06:04] <furous> permission is to create and delete files, there is an .Xauthority file there [now?] and it has read and write permissio
[06:04] <cyrex> ty
[06:04] <samw3> Anyone know where Gnome stores the menu items in the Applications menu?
[06:05] <glaceman> hey guys ! anybody knows if there's any channel for the playstation ?
[06:05] <celthunder> d4gg3r: nmcli
[06:05] <celthunder> furous: how about write permissions on other files?
[06:05] <celthunder> glaceman: somewhere on somenetwork yes
[06:06] <glaceman> celthunder: any specific server in mind maybe ?
[06:06] <glaceman> celthunder: all i know is irc.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <d4gg3r> celthunder, nmcli: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so.1d: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:06] <d4gg3r> celthunder, this was the problem
[06:06] <Viking667> ah well. Finally got Ubuntu One working, though not without having to kick up a browser first.
[06:06] <celthunder> d4gg3r: so install the libraries networkmanager relies on
[06:06] <cyrex> o0k that said it was a directory
[06:07] <Viking667> i.e. add libnss3
[06:07] <d4gg3r> celthunder, it is odd that ubuntu does not install it by itself
[06:07] <Viking667> You might want libnspr4 in addition
[06:08] <celthunder> d4gg3r: ? why should it?
[06:08]  * Viking667 blinks...
[06:08] <stercor> celthunder: I added ssh: ALL: ALL and sshd: ALL: ALL No change. still refuses the connection.
[06:08] <Viking667> hmmmm. Could I submit a bug report? Heh...
[06:08] <d4gg3r> celthunder, because it installs one package by default, without its dependencies?
[06:09] <d4gg3r> celthunder, it should work on a fresh installation
[06:09] <furous> other hidden files in the home directory seem to have read and write permissins too...
[06:09] <celthunder> Viking667: what's the bug?
[06:09] <celthunder> furous: ok
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> stercor, did you install ssh server?  is it running "ps aux | grep ssh"?
[06:09] <brous-kee> stercor umm you may have to parse the PAM configs for those
[06:10] <celthunder> d4gg3r: blame the package manager and just becauase YOU need those libraries doesn't mean everyone else wants them
[06:10] <stercor> ZykoticK9: Another thing to look at :-)
[06:10] <stercor> brous-kee: That's over my head.
[06:10] <d4gg3r> celthunder, network manager is not something that I only want!
[06:10] <Eric__> celthunder sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o returns command not recognised
[06:10] <Viking667> When starting up Ubuntu ONE for the first time, it tells me I need an internet connection to use it. Does'nt allow me to click on anpthing else except the website... i.e. I can't click on the "I already have an account" lisk.
[06:10] <CoinOp> Updated from Update manager. Restarted and now after grub boots im stuck on a screen that has *stopping automatic crash report generation
[06:10] <Viking667> link
[06:10] <furous> does it matter what permissions the group has if the owner has read and write?
[06:11] <celthunder> furous: no
[06:11] <celthunder> Viking667: yeah sounds like a bug to me
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> Viking667, there is an Ubuntu One channel... probably #ubuntuone (but i didn't check)
[06:11] <stercor> celthunder: /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session
[06:11] <DrMax> hmm How do I disable the stupid auto-maximizing of windows whenever I place a window near a screen edge?
[06:11] <celthunder> d4gg3r: i didn't say that
[06:11] <binox> from my understanding the intel 82852 is blacklisted and i need to edit the x11/xorg.conf  to reenable them.  anyone know how,  or after i edit the file,  do i need to chmod or anything to activate my changes
[06:12] <celthunder> binox: why are you editting xorg to blacklist/unblacklist modules?
[06:12] <Viking667> well, I found that if I ran "u1sdtool -c" I could connect... finally...
[06:12] <celthunder> binox: /etc/modprobe.d
[06:13] <binox> i created /etc/x11/xorg.conf  and entered this.        Section "Device"
[06:13] <binox>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[06:13] <binox>         Driver          "intel"
[06:13] <binox> EndSection
[06:13] <binox> Section "Monitor"
[06:13] <binox>         Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
[06:13] <FloodBot3> binox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <Viking667> now I'm happy. But I think the text is misleading, so's the inability to click on the "I already have an account"
[06:13] <daniel_> heyhow would i make byobu terminal my default terminal so when i push ctrl alt t it will open that instead of the regular one
[06:14] <binox> woops
[06:14] <zetsuboukitteh> hey, any thoughts what might be the problem; updgraded to natty and a game I could play flawlessly before (xmoto) lags quite a lot now
[06:14] <celthunder> daniel_: what wm/de
[06:14] <zetsuboukitteh> oh, on xubuntu btw
[06:14] <daniel_> celthunder, ?
[06:15] <celthunder> daniel_: window manager/desktop environment you're using?
[06:15] <binox> celthunder:    i thought that is what i needed to do since maverick ships with those drivers to not install
[06:15] <semitones> Is it possible to start programs before gdm? I'd like to start redshift before gdm starts so that my login screen is more gentle on the eyes at night
[06:15] <daniel_> celthunder, im running 11.04 out of the box i think untiy?
[06:15] <^Phantom^> How long until 11.10 LTS?
[06:16] <binox> i cellthunder:  i installed xorg but that is not solving my opengl problem for games,  even something simple like supertux2
[06:16] <MK``> !12.04
[06:16] <daniel_> celthunder, unity or gnome 3 idk for sure what ever ships with 11.04
[06:16] <celthunder> daniel_: ok idk then...i use xmonad
[06:16] <MK``> !onerious
[06:16] <celthunder> semitones: yes it's entirely possible
[06:16] <daniel_> celthunder, oh ok
[06:16] <Peddy> how can i view a 'dynamic' version of dmesg that updates are the kernel displays new messages?
[06:16] <MK``> !oneric
[06:16] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this.
[06:17] <MK``> there. That's not an LTS, ^Phantom^
[06:17] <daniel_> would anyone know how to get wireless working i dont know whats wrong with it it worked before i updated
[06:17] <binox> daniel:  what wireless card do you have
[06:18] <celthunder> Peddy: dmesg | less
[06:18] <xyq> 0.0
[06:18] <^Phantom^> I thought the .10's were?
[06:18] <celthunder> daniel_: does wlan0 or similar show up in ifconfig
[06:18] <semitones> celthunder, awesome! any idea how?
[06:18] <^Phantom^> @ MK``
[06:18] <mah454> Hello ...
[06:18] <celthunder> semitones: edit /etc/inittab
[06:19] <xyq> 有中国的吗？
[06:19] <celthunder> daniel_: or whats wrong with your wireless
[06:19] <celthunder> xyq: english?
[06:19] <tensorpudding> !cn | xyq
[06:19] <binox> old intel 82852/855 video card here,  3d acceleration is slow.  how can i enable the blacklisted drivers in maverick
[06:19] <xyq> i am chiness
[06:19] <furous> thanks for your help, I will keep searching to find the answer...
[06:19] <binox> flash works dvd works,  but opengl is slow
[06:19] <mah454> I have problem with printer , I can not share printer , receive this message "Not published Server Setting"
[06:20] <thelorax> is anyone having problems with their topbar in 11.04?
[06:20] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this.
[06:20] <semitones> celthunder, there's nothing in that file
[06:20] <celthunder> binox: /etc/modprobe.d
[06:20] <celthunder> semitones: ok edit whatever replaced that then
[06:20] <daniel_> celthunder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602121/
[06:20] <binox> celthunder:  thanks
[06:20] <MK``> no ^Phantom^ it's the other way: alternating non-.10s so far. 6.06, 8.04, 10.04
[06:21] <celthunder> daniel_: is usb0 your wireless?
[06:21] <MK``> so the release after 11.10 will most likely be 12.04 LTS
[06:21] <mah454> I have BIG problem with printer , I can not share printer , receive this message "Not published Server Setting"
[06:21] <thelorax> anyone able to help?
[06:21] <daniel_> celthunder, no its my phone tether that i am usign so i can talk on here should i turn it off for asec ? then try it agian ?
[06:21] <celthunder> mah454: edit your cups setting
[06:22] <celthunder> daniel_: no
[06:22] <celthunder> thelorax: perhaps
[06:22] <^Phantom^> MK``, ah, okay
[06:22] <xyq> my english is bad    who can speak in chiness
[06:22] <celthunder> daniel_: ok lspci do you see your wireless card?
[06:22] <^Phantom^> ty
[06:22] <^Phantom^> night all
[06:22] <MK``> !cn | xyq
[06:23] <xyq> thank you
[06:23] <daniel_> celthunder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602122/
[06:23] <celthunder> hi MK`` sup
[06:23] <MK``> hi celthunder
[06:24] <celthunder> daniel_: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[06:24] <thelorax> celtthunder: i just upgraded from 10.04 to 11.04 and my topbar isnt visable
[06:24] <celthunder> daniel_: did you loadthe broadcom drivers/firmware?
[06:24] <celthunder> thelorax: i think that's supposed to happen no idea though...
[06:25] <daniel_> celthunder, yeh it says there in use i went to avaible drivers and it says it is in use
[06:25] <tmp__> sudo pat-get install b43-fwcutter
[06:25] <tmp__> i have bcm4312
[06:25] <celthunder> thanks tmp__
[06:26] <photon> USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
[06:26] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this.
[06:26] <daniel_> celthunder, my wifi worked before i updated and it just doesnt now is there someone i should type into the terminal to tell it to lol ?
[06:26] <tensorpudding> !ot | photon
[06:26] <celthunder> daniel_: did you read tmp__ 'scomment on it?
[06:26] <SerialMDK> lcb
[06:26] <celthunder> daniel_: also modprobe b43
[06:27] <tensorpudding> CoinOp: what do you mean by "cannot get past this"
[06:27] <tensorpudding> does the shutdown halt then
[06:27] <daniel_> tmp_, should i type that in the termianl?
[06:27] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: it just stays on that screen indefinately
[06:27] <neil_> whenever I start a torrent download I get "/tmp/xxx.par cound not be saved, because the source file could not e read...." even from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download .... why?  ... is my isp blocking all torrent downloads?
[06:28] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: not for over five minutes.
[06:28] <tmp__> daniel_ yes, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter and go to system administration addtional drivers
[06:29] <Zeeofu> neil_: yes, try using proxy
[06:29] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: I just upgraded from 10.10 on update manager, after the restart this is as far as I get past grub.
[06:29] <daniel_> tmp__, ok its done downloading and im at additional drivers now what
[06:30] <tensorpudding> CoinOp: try rebooting, does it do it again?
[06:30] <Zeeofu> is there any cloudapp application for ubuntu
[06:30] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: Every time
[06:30] <SerialMDK> can anyone tell me how to load a video driver with an 11.04 install?
[06:30] <bazhang> Zeeofu, ubuntu one?
[06:30] <Zeeofu> bazhang: can connect to clouapp using ubuntu one
[06:31] <tmp__> daniel_ there must  activation on Broadcom B43 wireless drivers
[06:31] <thelorax> is there anyway to switch back to 10.04 from 11.04? i dont think 11.04 loaded properly
[06:31] <tensorpudding> CoinOp: not sure then
[06:31] <bazhang> thelorax, full reinstall
[06:31] <POOPHAMMMER> so guys i got ubuntu installed of vmware and i am chatting from vmware
[06:31] <POOPHAMMMER> does that mean i did it right
[06:31] <tmp__> thelorax only reinstall, will be simple
[06:31] <Zeeofu> is updating to 11.0 worth updating
[06:31] <daniel_> tmp__, yeh its been activated and been in use the networking tool just wont take notice of it
[06:31] <celthunder> POOPHAMMMER: did what right?
[06:31] <POOPHAMMMER> it
[06:31] <CoinOp> tensorpudding: Well thank you for looking
[06:31] <celthunder> POOPHAMMMER: sure why not
[06:32] <celthunder> Zeeofu: personal preferences
[06:32] <thelorax> how to i do that from terminal? will it erase my photos and mp3s? or will it be fine like when i upgraded?
[06:32] <daniel_> Zeeofu, no dont do it unless u want a head ache wifi dont work for me i get random reboots now and unity isnt better then gnome or w.e
[06:32] <bazhang> thelorax, a full reinstall wont be from the terminal
[06:33] <neil_> Zeeofu, is there a howto on setting this up?
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> well
[06:33] <daniel_> tmp__, u have any ideas why it wont notice its there?
[06:33] <tmp__> daniel_ what message iwconfig ?
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> when i installed ubuntu it told me i would need to install linux
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i do it
[06:33] <celthunder> someone kick poophammer
[06:33] <thelorax> bazhang: im new to all this..can you explain?
[06:33] <celthunder> .votekick poophammmer
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> no im serious
[06:33] <POOPHAMMMER> im chatting from irssi
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i install linux
[06:34] <tensorpudding> you installed it in vmware?
[06:34] <daniel_> tmp__, it says lo eth0 and usb0 all followed by no wireless extension
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> yes i installed it in vmware
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> now what
[06:34] <bazhang> thelorax, a full reinstall means getting the 10.04 iso, burning it to cd and reinstalling from that
[06:34] <celthunder> you spam the hell out of the channel until a bot bans you poophamme thats how
[06:34] <tmp__> daniel_ rfkill list in terminal
[06:34] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg  It does not progress beyond this point. Tried multiple reboots.
[06:34] <bazhang> POOPHAMMMER, please stop. Ubuntu = Linux
[06:34] <thelorax> bazhang: my notebook hasnt a cd drive
[06:34] <POOPHAMMMER> no it is linux
[06:35] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i install it
[06:35] <ejv> POOPHAMMMER: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:35] <celthunder> thank you bazhang
[06:35] <daniel_> daniel@Shiela:~$ rfkill list
[06:35] <daniel_> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[06:35] <daniel_> 	Soft blocked: no
[06:35] <daniel_> 	Hard blocked: yes
[06:35] <FloodBot3> daniel_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <ejv> lol
[06:35] <bazhang> thelorax, then unetbootin with a flash key
[06:35] <ejv> i didn't know u had powerz bazhang
[06:35] <ejv> :p
[06:35] <Zeeofu> neil_, do you have windows installed?
[06:35] <tmp__> daniel_ blocked on hard, not in linux
[06:36] <daniel_> tmp__, whats that mean ?
[06:36] <tmp__> daniel_ on of on notebopk\pc
[06:36] <lwizardl> hello
[06:36] <bazhang> !usb > thelorax
[06:36] <neil_> Zeeofu, no, ubuntu 10.10
[06:36] <lwizardl> does anyone know of any good applications for making music beats on linux ?
[06:36] <Zeeofu> neil_, if yes then install uTorrent and go to proxy settings, there are hunderes of free proxy servers avilable, google it.
[06:36] <daniel_> tmp__, ok they both say yes now
[06:36] <daniel_> tmp__, i mean no
[06:37] <thelorax> bazhang: i dont know what that means...when installed 10.04 about 6mo. ago i just downloaded it to my hardrive and it installed alongside windows 7
[06:37] <daniel_> 0: dell-wifi: Wireless LAN
[06:37] <daniel_> 	Soft blocked: no
[06:37] <daniel_> 	Hard blocked: no
[06:37] <tmp__> good
[06:37] <tmp__> iwconfig
[06:37] <bazhang> thelorax, wubi install?
[06:37] <Zeeofu> daniel_, thanks bro
[06:37] <daniel_> tmp__, still same exact thing
[06:37] <thelorax> bazhang:then a few days ago i upgraded to 11.04 thru my update manager or whatever..
[06:37] <thelorax> bazhang: yeah wubi
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> how do i install linux
[06:38] <thelorax> bazhang: now i cant see my menu bar on the top of my desktop
[06:38] <Zeeofu> Bye everyone, Have a nice day!
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> i installed ubuntu and irzzi
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> sisi
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> ssi
[06:38] <daniel_> Zeeofu, well unity is ok and awesome if u like
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> irssi
[06:38] <bazhang> thelorax, there is no downgrade in wubi either as far as I know
[06:38] <FloodBot3> POOPHAMMMER: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> im not flooding
[06:38] <POOPHAMMMER> flooding is for the japanese
[06:38] <ejv> lol
[06:38] <Viking667> yeah, you are fl00ding
[06:38] <thelorax> bazhang: so how would i go about accessing my applications and such?
[06:39] <tmp__> daniel_  see your wifi adapters
[06:39] <daniel_> tmp__, how do i do that ?
[06:39] <Dungolisiss> unsa
[06:39] <Viking667> anyhow, I'm glad I got Ubuntu One installed, and working... though really, it looks entirely like a clone of DropBox plus syncing of Firefox bookmarks (which firefox already offers, I think) and Evolution contacts
[06:39] <Appleby> connect irc.synirc.net
[06:39] <tmp__> daniel_ in documentation name of adapter
[06:40] <bear_> hi
[06:40] <thelorax> bazhang: you know? on the top of the screen? the menubar with applications and system and administration and all that?
[06:40] <daniel_> tmp__, hmm this ?This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driverfor use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-,BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-basedhardware.
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> !panels | thelorax
[06:41] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot progress beyond this screen. Any help would be appreciated.
[06:41] <tmp__> daniel_ nonono, sorry for my english. Broadcom 43xx, your xx?
[06:42] <Taint_> hi
[06:42] <aLeSD> hi all
[06:42] <aLeSD> I am using gnome 2.32.1 on ubuntu 11.04 ... I am tring to replace the panel with awn. I run this line "gconftool-2 --type=string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/panel 'avant-window-navigator'" .. but, on login, the gnome-panel is still here . someone could help me ?
[06:42] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: oh menu bar is really called "panel"?
[06:43] <richiefrich> how can i block the upgrade, as i dont want unity
[06:43] <rage> I've got a weird bug after upgrading to 11.04. All text that should be displayed by compiz is missing
[06:43] <daniel_> tmp__, sorry idk were to find that ? but i think its 11
[06:43] <thelorax> ubottu: that will make my menubar..or "panel" show back up?
[06:43] <richiefrich> and i dont wanna run it on accident
[06:43] <daniel_> tmp__, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602122/ i think this should say right ?
[06:43] <_genuser_> wait richiefrich uses ubuntu also?
[06:43] <tmp__> daniel_ You have brcm 4311, havent you?
[06:43] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i use them all
[06:43] <_genuser_> richiefrich: hey there. see you in gentoo too
[06:44] <Taint_> richiefrich: Good question.  :) I'm using netbuntu on a netbook and it's the unity thing that's bugging me too. I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now I don't like unity. Upgrading to 11.04 to be able to use newer autohide crap....
[06:45] <tmp__> daniel_ sudo apt-get --purge remove b43-fwcutter
[06:45] <richiefrich> _genuser_: that is it, i dont want it, so now i will never upgrade
[06:45] <daniel_> tmp__, yes i use a notebook
[06:46] <naptastic> I just upgraded to Natty. How do I change the number of workspaces?
[06:46] <Taint_> richiefrich: Well I just started using linux ubuntu recently, so far it is nice. I used OSX cause my mom is a big OSX fan I don't know must be a woman thing
[06:46] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i know i can bnlock it but i am used to emerge not apt-get
[06:46] <tmp__> daniel_ and install b43-fwcutter
[06:46] <rage> Is anyone else experience a bug where text that compiz should be displaying is missing? e.g when alt-tabbing the window title should be disabled. I have two machines freshly upgraded to 11.04 with this bug
[06:46] <rage> *displayed
[06:46] <tmp__> daniel_ go to additional drivers and activate them< if it not activation
[06:47] <_genuser_> my the rain storm is kicking my internet in/out.
[06:47] <richiefrich> Taint_: http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2010-10/25-ubuntu_unity_sucks
[06:47] <richiefrich> Taint_: see it is no good
[06:47] <CoinOp> Here is a photo of my issue if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/Q0DEW.jpg   I cannot get past this. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
[06:47] <bazhang> richiefrich, lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <daniel_> tmp__, ok i did everything u said and it says its activated
[06:48] <tmp__> daniel_ your version of linux?
[06:48] <daniel_> tmp__, ubuntu 11.04 natty
[06:48] <tmp__> daniel_ i dont know, it may not work in natty
[06:48] <rage> Could anyone running 11.04 please alt-tab and tell me if the window titles are appearing in the app switcher correctly?
[06:49] <rage> I have three machines doing it and I would like to know its not just me
[06:49] <daniel_> tmp__, i hate natty :(
[06:49] <tmp__> daniel_ see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:49] <cmdbbq> I am a bit new to unity (it didn't run well on my netbook in the last release, but it does now) I have a few questions about it to help me get it set up . first off, I was able to swap banshee for rhythmbox in the sound meenu, but i am having trouble accomplishing the same effect with empathy/pidgin in the messaging menu. can anyone help me to do this?
[06:50] <thelorax> can anyone tell me how to reset my "panel" in terminal?
[06:50] <thelorax> i cant see my applications menu or anything
[06:50] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: in the new toolbar?
[06:50] <tmp__> daniel_ and you may to try sta driver
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> !panels | thelorax
[06:50] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: just drag the thing you want off, off ot the side till is shows you X. it will remove it.
[06:50] <Taint_> richiefrich: Fuck Unity. Godamnit why is Ubuntu starting to suck! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:51] <bear_> hi ever one
[06:51] <_genuser_> the main thing with unity on a netbook is it's trying to command 1" of a 10" screen. don't care what the devs were thinking, they were wrong.
[06:51] <eiriksvin> how do i get Natty to stop loading in the top left?
[06:51] <Viking667> eiriksvin: hmm? how do you mean?
[06:52] <cmdbbq> _genuser_: i am speaking of the revamped notification are, and my side panel autohides or else it would have been a dealbreaker
[06:52] <eiriksvin> all the programs load in the top left, and the new natty bar keeps dissappearing, i want to change those 2 thing
[06:52] <richiefrich> so no way to block unity?
[06:53] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: that's why I'm upgradin to autohide the sidepanel.
[06:53] <linux_probe> hmm
[06:53] <_genuser_> cmdbbq: don't even know about the revamp on the auto notification area.
[06:53] <thelorax> thelorax@ubuntu:~$ gconftool--recursive-unset/apps/panel&&killall gnome-panel
[06:53] <thelorax> bash: gconftool--recursive-unset/apps/panel: No such file or directory
[06:53] <thelorax> thelorax@ubuntu:~$
[06:53] <bazhang> richiefrich, choose classic at the login window
[06:53] <thelorax> ? am i typing it wrong?
[06:53] <eiriksvin> i want everything to load in the center, and i want the natty bar to stay there, how to i fix that?
[06:54] <rage> I think there is a bug with alt-tab in 11.04? Could someone please press alt-tab and confirm it for me?
[06:54] <rage> The titles of the windows should be displayed
[06:54] <rage> but they're not
[06:54] <thelorax> eiriksvin:are you having problems seeing your topbar?
[06:54] <_genuser_> richiefrich: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[06:54] <Viking667> rage: titles displayed where?
[06:54] <katselphrime> yep im having same problem w/ rage
[06:55] <_genuser_> richiefrich: haven't tried that yet. STill upgrading to 11.04.
[06:55] <rage> Viking667: The window title should be displayed immediately under the selected application when you alt tab
[06:55] <Atomicspin> Wireless was working fine in 10.10, now it's not in 11.04
[06:55] <Atomicspin> I have the STA drivers installed.
[06:55] <Viking667> ahh, no i don't get that either.
[06:55] <thelorax> rage:can you see your top menu bar?
[06:55] <Viking667> I get the icon for the application showing on the snapshot window though...
[06:55] <rage> thelorax: I'm not running unity
[06:55] <eiriksvin> try switching an app to another workspace then alt tab
[06:55] <Viking667> Oh. I am.
[06:55] <Viking667> sorry...
[06:56] <rage> Viking667: So you are getting the title?
[06:56] <Viking667> rage: which application switcher are you using?
[06:56] <rage> Viking667: Static application switcher
[06:56] <Viking667> ANd I'm using Unity, I don't get the title of the window.
[06:56] <rage> Viking667: However the problem is compiz wide
[06:56] <Viking667> ahhhhh. I'm not using static. I can start it up and try that out.
[06:56] <Viking667> brb
[06:56] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, are you using 11.04?
[06:56] <Viking667> ah huh.
[06:56] <thelorax> rage: im new to all this..i just upgraded from 10.0 or whatever..and now i cant see my menu bar at the top where i chose my applications and such
[06:57] <rage> Viking667: All of compiz seems incapable of display text
[06:57] <Viking667> Checked your theme?
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, disregard the !panel factoid then!
[06:57] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: yeah i just upgraded from 10.0 or whatever
[06:57] <rage> Viking667: I have two vanilla machines display these symptoms. One ati the other nvidia
[06:58] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: and now i cant see my menu bar on the top of the screen that used to be there in 10.0 so i could choose from my applications or go to my software center or change my backround and themes and all that
[06:58] <_genuser_> richiefrich: you see the link?
[06:58] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, welcome to unity ;)
[06:58] <rage> Viking667: I'm hoping its not just me who has this bug
[06:59] <rage> Viking667: So Compiz text display okay for you?
[06:59] <Viking667> Yup. I can concur that with the "Static application switcher" I don't see titles either.
[06:59] <rage> Viking667: Okay, phew,
[06:59] <Viking667> ATI card, HD3450
[06:59] <richiefrich> _genuser_: yeah
[06:59] <Viking667> ... if we're talking about the snapshots
[06:59] <richiefrich> _genuser_:  one last thing, if you know
[06:59] <rage> Viking667: Yeah, its very annoying. I use Scale Window Title filter frequently, its nearly useless if you cant see any text
[06:59] <richiefrich> _genuser_: how can i get it to stop asking me if i wanna upgrade
[07:00] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i dont see that in cron
[07:00] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: FUK! haha...i just want my old ubuntu back..how can i go about getting my menubar to show..or how do i use my applications..i can only see my desktop icons and my "dockY" at the bottom..so the only applications i have access to are the ones saved in my docky
[07:00] <richiefrich> i dont want to click yes on accident
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, i repeat - welcome to unity.  I've stopped using Ubuntu because of Unity myself.  Good luck.
[07:01] <thelorax> what do you use now?
[07:01] <thelorax> i dont want to go back to windows
[07:01] <fisix> why does plugging in my ethernet cord not change the wifi icon in the indicator applet panel?
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, debian / trisquel
[07:01] <Viking667> fisix: why should it?
[07:01] <Garry> richiefrich. Do u see ? Don't Upgrade, Ask later, Upgrade
[07:01] <fisix> Viking667, it used to change to an up/down arrow
[07:02] <fisix> Viking667, after updating to 11.04 with classic gnome, it does not
[07:02] <richiefrich> Garry: i see that, but i mean i dont even want it to ask
[07:02] <thelorax> ZykoticK9:how do i switch without altering my files on ubuntu? is that possible?
[07:02] <Viking667> oh. Then I apologise. I thought it'd not change because it's wireless, and you'd plugged in a wired link.
[07:02] <Mrokii> hello. I have heard to Gnome 3 will break Unity and/or Compiz. But will it also break the "Ubuntu Classic"-GUI (where I use compiz).
[07:02] <richiefrich> like ever
[07:02] <richiefrich> oh i know
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, have you tried "Classic Mode" from the GDM screen?
[07:02] <richiefrich> ill disable apt-get
[07:02] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lol, that upgrade part I don't know. In the update-manager windows in Settings, you can at least set it to only show LTS release or something. I think that's for upgrade. For updates, I guess I just always say no....
[07:03] <neil_> I am having trouble setting up a proxy for 'Transmission' torrent program.. I found this list http://torrentproxy.org/ ... I have tried several .. when I click on the 'download' torrent button I still get the "/tmp/xxx.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read." error
[07:03] <Viking667> for updates/upgrades, don't run into the problem I ran into a while ago... couldn't upgrade packages because the release was no longer present at any of the Ubuntu mirrors.
[07:04] <fisix> Viking667, oh haha that's alright. any idea on wat to do?
[07:04] <richiefrich> _genuser_:  chmod 0 /usr/bin/apt-get /usr/bin/aptitude-curses ; chattr +ai  /usr/bin/apt-get /usr/bin/aptitude-curses
[07:04] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i fixed it
[07:04] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: GMD screen?
[07:04] <foodstamp> Viking667  so i should sty on main server?
[07:04] <Hoyt> anyone here using GrSecurity kernel patch ?
[07:05] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lol. There's the Startup Application Preferences. That has a line saying Update Notifier, you can uncheck that too.
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i will fix it on my own, like that :P
[07:05] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, GDM = the login screen, select your user name, then at the bottom click Session
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_: where is that
[07:05] <_genuser_> richiefrich: that fix will work nice too. :)
[07:05] <thelorax> ok ill try
[07:05] <thelorax> brb
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_:   There's the Startup Application Preferences. ??
[07:05] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i see it
[07:05] <_genuser_> richiefrich: from unity, Applications -> System -> Startup Application Preferences
[07:06] <aLeSD> hi ... why ubuntu 11.04 doesn't follow gconf-editor configurations ?
[07:06] <eiriksvin> whats the name of the program i gotta download to stop the launcher from moving and or disappearing?
[07:06] <nit-wit> aLeSD, ?
[07:06] <cmdbbq> so that is a no on adding pidgin to the messaginn menu on right side of the top panel thing? my second question is this then, the top panel thing shows the name of the focused window, but can be made to switch to the menu bar for said window via the alt key or moving the mouse over it. I want it to always be the menu bar. possible?
[07:06] <fisix> does anybody know why ifconfig shows a connection for eth0 but iwconfig doesn ot?
[07:06] <aLeSD> nit-wit: I set panel to avant-window-navigator but gnome-panel is still there
[07:07] <richiefrich> _genuser_: nice
[07:07] <_genuser_> fisix: iwconfig shows wireless ones, no?
[07:07] <aLeSD> nit-wit: I remove the panel entry and gnome-panel is still there
[07:07] <_genuser_> richiefrich:  you like? :)
[07:07] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i do, i am so not used to gui's
[07:07] <_genuser_> richiefrich: getting ready to reboot and see what 11.04 looks like and then disable unity if possible....
[07:07] <eiriksvin> whats the name of the program i gotta download to stop the launcher from moving and or disappearing?
[07:08] <richiefrich> _genuser_: good luck
[07:08] <richiefrich> _genuser_: just chaneg from gnome, to like awesome
[07:08] <debrisrat> hi!
[07:08] <_genuser_> richiefrich: hehe, I would really use gentoo on the netbook that's why I bought it, to play with gentoo more for lean setup. but then I thought who wants to compile gtk on a 1.66GHz single core....
[07:09] <richiefrich> _genuser_: use archlinux
[07:09] <nit-wit> aLeSD, not sure what you have done but here is the installation wiki.http://wiki.awn-project.org/Installation
[07:09] <richiefrich> it is nice and fast for a netbook
[07:09] <fisix> _genuser_, yeah the wireless is shown
[07:09] <nit-wit> aLeSD, I have never used awn sorry,
[07:10] <aLeSD> nit-wit: thanks anyway
[07:10] <_genuser_> richiefrich: would be fun those to install gentoo using distcc with a faster one around. :)
[07:11] <rick_2047> hey guys have acer 5742G and everything working just great but the internal mic is not working
[07:11] <rick_2047> it is detected by aplay
[07:11] <drhe1skt> so unity any good? are people staying with gnome?
[07:12] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: THANK YOU! it worked!
[07:12] <Garry> richiefrich. Have sorted to disable upgrade option yet?
[07:12] <rage> drhe1skt: Staying with Gnome here.
[07:12] <richiefrich> _genuser_: install it in a chroot on the main box and then just rsync it. I mean use sys-devel/crossdev
[07:12] <thelorax> ZykoticK9: classic mode homie
[07:12] <richiefrich> Garry: yes ty
[07:12] <ZykoticK9> thelorax, glad to help
[07:13] <eiriksvin> whats the name of the program i gotta download to stop the launcher from moving and or disappearing? it had Unity in the name i know that
[07:13] <_genuser_> richiefrich: I guess most of the things would work fine that way. Using rsync... the wifi stuff is the only thing to worry about....
[07:13] <drhe1skt> rage, did you check out unity though?
[07:13] <_genuser_> richiefrich: cool idea
[07:13] <richiefrich> _genuser_: trye
[07:13] <richiefrich> true
[07:13] <DrMax> celthunder : still there?
[07:13] <rage> drhe1skt: Still using it on my main desktop.
[07:14] <rage> drhe1skt: However until its stable, I'm not staying with it
[07:14] <_genuser_> richiefrich: if the wifi is supported in kernel, it would be super.
[07:14] <_genuser_> well then, mission gentoo might be a go.
[07:14] <rage> drhe1skt: I'll give it another go when 12.04 LTS comes out, hopefully the bugs will be sorted by then
[07:15] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[07:15] <thelorax> yo
[07:16] <Scall> What version of Firefox uses Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? (sorry for my English)
[07:16] <richiefrich> _genuser_: only thing i would like on this is FF4
[07:16] <richiefrich> _genuser_: but i can install that manually
[07:16] <richiefrich> _genuser_: since i diabled apt-get
[07:17] <_genuser_> richiefrich: FF4 is out already?
[07:17] <MadRobot> I'm having this weird problem with changing the keyboard lay-out. I use the the Alt-Shift combination to change the layout. I can change it from USA to Arabic (the second language), but when I try to change it back it doesn't work unless I do that manually with the mouse. How do I fix that?
[07:17] <_genuser_> only if there was internet explorer for linux that worked fast.
[07:17] <richiefrich> _genuser_: it might be in beta
[07:18] <MadRobot> _genuser_, FF4 is awesome if you ask me?
[07:18] <MadRobot> ahh, ignore the question mark..
[07:18] <_genuser_> I really like FF3 on linux. Just that I'm used to IE8 on my win machine and switching between the two is kinda one of those things where I want to just have the same browser.
[07:19] <_genuser_> but FF is pretty cool in what it does. it has definitely beat chromium into it's place
[07:19] <htek> what the hell would someone use IE for
[07:19] <htek> you like zeus?
[07:19] <MadRobot> htek, Exactly.
[07:20] <_genuser_> I use windows also and IE is already on it. And it just works. better than any other browser on there. So I use it.
[07:20] <mysteriousdarren> _genuser_: why IE? most people hate it
[07:20] <MadRobot> So can anybody please help me with me layout problem?
[07:20] <_genuser_> meh, I don't really worry about what someone might think of it.  We were just discussing browsers and I explained why I use IE. put a sock it bud.
[07:22] <MadRobot> I can change my layout from English to the other language using the keyboard, but I can't change it back unless I do it with the mouse. What could be the problem?
[07:22] <DrMax> my nfs mount (still recovering from upgrade to 11.04) shows all file owners as<PHONE_NUMBER> (-2)
[07:22] <DrMax> how do I fix this?
[07:23] <alokar> Hello, I'm running 10.10 and would like to go for firefox 4.0. How do I do that?
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> alokar, mozilla PPA
[07:23] <richiefrich> _genuser_: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[07:23] <richiefrich> _genuser_: i guess it is the old school
[07:24] <richiefrich> _genuser_: maybe not
[07:24] <_genuser_> richiefrich: lol, the upgrade failed and I gotta now figure out if the system is usable lol.
[07:24] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  I googled, is this one? ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[07:24] <_genuser_> only if there was a way to reboot without doing that.
[07:24] <richiefrich> _genuser_: really, how did it fail
[07:25] <ZykoticK9> alokar, i couldn't tell you for sure, but i'm sure that would work - i believe there is a stable (vs daily build) PPA though
[07:25] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  Or do you have a good link I can check out.
[07:25] <_genuser_> lol, new message upgrade complete. right after message saying upgrade failed. it will not run rollback package cleaner some thing.
[07:25] <alokar> ZykoticK9,  	4.0~b13~hg20110323r63531+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1    isn