[00:46] <smkellat> Hey bluesabre, the RSS feed for your blog apparently changed and looks wrong on Planet Ubuntu.  You may want to fix that.
[00:50] <bluesabre> smkellat: yeah, I adjusted that yesterday, not sure how to force it to rescan https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~planet-ubuntu/config/main/revision/1931
[00:51] <bluesabre> or, are you seeing some other issue?
[00:52] <bluesabre> also, not sure how it has the ghost default posts on there, I think I deleted those before updating the planet feed
[04:40] <smkellat> bluesabre: I pulled from LP and it looks like you made the correct configuration change.  Usually the safe bet after doing such a change is to publish a brief blog post that would pop up in that feed target.  Planet updates are tied to some operation or another on LP so it happens roughly 1-2 hours.


[23:29] <newkno> erUSUL:  I just want a working bootloader that at least lets me boot into Windoze like I could prior to installing Ubuntu onto the external drive.  But now that I've lost the Windoze loader, rather than trying to get it back, I might as well install GRUB, but I don't know how to do it safely.
[23:29] <Nach0z> egsome: aight thanks then.
[23:30] <egsome> Nach0z, You're welcome
[23:30] <hcook> itsjustme: well last time i thought it was hung on the time zone so i rebooted after about ten minutes...same result
[23:30] <itsjustme> mkcpys   google    How to install restricted extras in unbuntu
[23:30] <InvaderZim> Can someone tell me why is the tor package gone?
[23:30] <itsjustme> hcook weird to have a recent sys and that happen. sorry don't know.
[23:31] <quidnunc> Where are iptables rules usually source on startup? I have some rules loading somewhere but I forgot how to edit them.
[23:31] <jrib> quidnunc: no where.
[23:31] <erUSUL> newkno: i do not know how to install grub in a windows machine sorry
[23:31] <quidnunc> jrib: Pardon?
[23:32] <jrib> quidnunc: iptables are not stored anywhere by default
[23:32] <jrib> ^rules
[23:32] <quidnunc> jrib: Yes but I stored them somehow to be loaded at boot. I can't remember where. What are the standard methods of loading iptables rules?
[23:33] <newkno> erUSUL:  I'd like to get myself into a situation where I can (preferably without having to re-partition the internal drive, which is also scary) boot into either Linux or Windoze.  VirtualBox would be very nice also.  I'd really like to be able to use the external drive mainly for backups and to store big files.  I don't want to have to haul it around with the laptop.  However, I might as well install a working system on
[23:33] <newkno> it as well, just in case.
[23:33] <jrib> quidnunc: now, if you used ufw or firestarter, they'll start by default.  And there's a handful of ways you could have decided to store them.  If you read ubottu's documentation on iptables' then maybe rereading it will jog your memory
[23:33] <jrib> !iptables > quidnunc
[23:33] <quidnunc> jrib: No I used the command line.
[23:34] <jrib> quidnunc: great, that means you didn't use firestart.  That still means you could have used ufw or followed ubottu's instructions on iptables
[23:36] <velociostrich> anyone know if it's possible to pipe standard input to a command in a function in bash?
[23:36] <erUSUL> newkno: i nderstand what you want. and i already told you two ways of restoring windows bootloader. i do not have any other advice
[23:36] <mkcpys> itsjustme - No offense, but I did that. You would be surprised at how difficult it is to find instructions for 64-bit version.
[23:37] <jrib> velociostrich: #bash though you're phrasing that in a strange way
[23:37] <velociostrich> jrib: I'll try asking there then
[23:37] <mkcpys> erUSUL - Installing restricted extras repo and package is the same, but not other issues, like flash.
[23:37] <erUSUL> mkcpys: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:37] <erUSUL> mkcpys: flash is installed with the ubuntu-restricted-extras package in 64 bits ubuntu
[23:37] <mkcpys> erUSUL - Yeah, i've done that. I still can't play flash.
[23:37] <erUSUL> mkcpys: just like java plugin
[23:38] <newkno> erUSUL:  I don't mean to be difficult.  Actually, GRUB is already installed into the MBR of the internal drive.  If it actually worked, I'd be happy.  I think it needs those additional files, which it doesn't know where to look for.
[23:38] <cyril_> hello, I am runing ubuntu 10.04 and I have problem with some application that I launch but do not show. Ex: Art Manager, and now Kgpg. When I launch the application from the menu, the process is actually created, but the application windows doesn't show...
[23:39] <erUSUL> newkno: as i previously said 1) those files are in the ubuntu partition. 2) i do not know how to transfer ( or if it is even possible) them to the windows partition and make grub work from them
[23:39] <newkno> erUSUL: I'm just afraid of the procedure indicated at the page you referred me to, since it appears to be something you just found, not something you've actually used.
[23:39] <mkcpys> erUSUL Well, it may not be related, but firefox is asking me to install adobe flash player, swfdec swf player, and or Gnash SWF player. So I guess that's just for firefox then?
[23:39] <coz_> newkno,   you may have to reinstall grub...not sure since I just got  here but if thatis the case you  may want to go here   http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide  and read first
[23:39] <erUSUL> newkno: yes; i've never used those methods.
[23:39] <mkcpys> erUSUL - thanks for setting my straight on the 64-bit restricted extras. I didn't know that.
[23:39] <stercor> How do I get ubottu help on crontab?
[23:39] <erUSUL> mkcpys: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:40] <coz_> newkno,  also you may want to join #grub channel as well
[23:40] <newkno> coz:  Thanks.  I'll check it out.  But, as I was just telling erUSUL, GRUB is not something that Windoze can use, afaik, since there are other files required - or at least one ("menu.lst?") that defines the systems that can be booted and where they live.
[23:41] <mkcpys> So installing flash is a different step from installing restricted extras? Will that flashplugin-nonfree automatically install a 64bit version?
[23:41] <bazhang> newkno, no menu.lst in grub2 check the wiki
[23:41] <mkcpys> erUSUL - I went ahead and did it, and it appears to have installed amd64.dev.... so that's goode.
[23:41] <stercor> I'm having trouble getting cron to work.  My crontab entry is "* * * * * /bin/ls"  Doesn't work.  Do I need to do something else?
[23:41] <coz_> newkno,  well menu.list is no longer there... it is now   /etc/default/grub
[23:41] <mado> excuse me everyone but can you help me with this? -> i thought it would be nice to e.g. 1) search for all e.g. PNG-files on some of my hard-disk's folders and 2) put them all in one folder ... is there a way to do this with some commands so that i don't have to click through every folder on my hard disk?
[23:42] <coz_> newkno,  and after editing that you need to run sudo update-grub before reboot
[23:42] <coz_> newkno,  and that is assuming you have lucid installed with grub2
[23:42] <erUSUL> stercor: what did yo expect to happen ?
[23:42] <mkcpys> erUSUL -- working. thanks a lot. I appreciate it.
[23:42] <erUSUL> stercor: cron will send you a mail with the ouput of ls ( not sure in which dir )
[23:42] <stercor> erUSUL: a file listing... Just to see it work.
[23:43] <erUSUL> mkcpys: no problem
[23:43] <newkno> coz: To access those files, Win would have to be able to read a Linux f.s. or they would have to be on the NTFS partition.  I know there's a Windoze version of GRUB.  maybe that's what i need - or else take the machine to the store where I got it and let them help me - surely they have an original disk - yes, maybe the procedure erUSUL offered, which uses "dd" would work also, but I find it scary, since I'm afraid of writ
[23:43] <newkno> ing beyond the MBR area.
[23:43] <erUSUL> stercor: then redirect the listing to a temp file
[23:43] <erUSUL> stercor: e.g. /bin/ls > /tmp/file_listing
[23:43] <itsjustme> I don't like to keep asking but I still haven't gotten any help    I have been trying all day to fix this and nobody seems to help me.. I cannot use the mouse or anything else to see the windows on the window switcher on the taskbar.  I see the email icon on desktop 2 but when trying to left click on it, the desktop doesn't switch.. Can someone help me  Using 10.4 gnome
[23:43] <stercor> erUSUL: Thanks.  Brb.
[23:44] <newkno> coz_: Please see a full description of the problem at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/124863
[23:45] <jgcampbell300> i am going to try to burn all of my cd's to iso files to store on my backup drive and use something like gmount to mount them on a ubuntu / windows dule boot computer ... this is my question ... what would be the best software to use to burn the iso images besides brasero
[23:45] <newkno> bazhang:  tnx for iinfo on grub2 - will do
[23:45] <stercor> erUSUL: That worked.
[23:46] <mkcpys> erURUL -- I really do appreciate it because last time I installed Ubuntu 9.04 in 64-bit it took me days to get the right stuff installed for flash to work properly.
[23:46] <coz_> newkno,  are you sure the grub was not installed to sda?
[23:47] <doctorZeus> i like gnomebaker a lot better than brasero
[23:47] <coz_> doctorZeus,  that is good sense... brasero often has issues especially burning ISO images
[23:47] <jgcampbell300> cool ... gnomebaker i will check that one out .... anyone else have a prefrence ?
[23:48] <newkno> coz_:  Didn't say it wasn't.  The installer apparently wrote GRUB to BOTH devicesl.  :-(
[23:48] <coz_> jgcampbell300,  no gnomebaker for gnoem and k3b for kde however there are also issues with k3b  not burning because you dont have permissions  which can be remedied but  if I have to jump through too many hoops to get moving I generally remove the application
[23:49] <jgcampbell300> well im off to read up on gnomebaker ... thanks for the info
[23:49] <coz_> newkno,  well ...to be honest... I have not studied enough of grub2 's specifications and options to really guide anyone well enough... which is why I suggested the #grub channel ...i dont know when the busy time is in that channel however
[23:51] <coz_> newkno,   out of curiosity...why not install ubuntu on the main drive  and use virtual box to run windows from there?  leaver the usb flash driver out of the equation ?
[23:52] <coz_> leave not "leaver" duh
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> coz_: would it be drive not driver aswell?
[23:53] <coz_> aeon-ltd,   lol most likely yes  ...boy this is a bad typing day lol
[23:53] <jgcampbell300> well thanks again for the assistance ... bye
[23:54] <coz_> newkno,   I think ...at least from my perspective...that set up might make you much happier then the one you attempted  ,,,certainly less complicated when it comes to gruib2
[23:54] <coz_> grub2
[23:54] <coz_> ok I think I need food..or sleep...or new fingers
[23:55] <Pelo> !samba
[23:55] <wea0> Ever since I updated my kubuntu karmic to lucid I have lost the bootup splash screen. How can I get it back?
[23:55] <newkno> coz_:  I opened a private channel, which would be easiest for me.  Can you take a few minutes out of this malestrom.  Oh - arggh - looks as if you're leaving.  :(
[23:56] <coz_> newkno,  yes I am there now :)
[23:56] <axisys> my bluetooth seems hanging.. it is sitting here for a while
[23:57] <axisys> http://picpaste.com/bluez-i9aTdBiv.png
[23:57] <quidnunc> Was there ever an iptables service (i.e. /etc/init.d/) in Ubuntu?
[23:57] <axisys> syslog has no report more than this http://pastebin.com/dCwNXkBk
[23:57] <quidnunc> (in one of the previous version)
[23:57] <quidnunc> versions*
[23:57] <aeon-ltd> quidnunc: not in stock ubuntu, i don't think. its always had ufw - iirc
[23:58] <th0r> quidnunc: don't think so...iptables is a part of the kernel if I remember correctly
[23:58] <axisys> is this the latest?
[23:58] <axisys> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/552579
[23:58] <axisys> i posted my question in ubuntu users mailing list as well
[23:58] <quidnunc> th0r: Some distros have an iptables service.


[00:01] <bjwood0> bspencer: I did the pkill gconfd and it fixed it, whew! :P
[00:07] <bjwood0> bspencer: I also noticed I don't have to comment out the brightness line in the statusbar.conf now :)
[00:13] <inkynoob> How is X supposed to start with Ubuntu Mobile? Should I be installing GDM just to have it auto login and auto start UME?
[00:20] <GrueMaster> It is part of the install.
[00:21] <inkynoob> I installed on my eee with Ubuntu JeOS + the ubuntu-mobile package
[00:21] <GrueMaster> Oh.
[00:21] <GrueMaster> This is part of an entire image.  Not sure how it works on a desktop image (which you have).
[00:22] <inkynoob> I suppose I'll create an image tonight and pick it apart to see what it's doing
[00:22] <GrueMaster> Try downloading a daily snapshot of the live usb image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/mccaslin
[00:23] <GrueMaster> oops.  Bad link.  Try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/hardy/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull/
[00:23] <inkynoob> ah, that's better :-)
[00:23] <GrueMaster> Not quite optimised for the Eee, but close.
[00:25] <inkynoob> thanks, I'll take a look at it
[00:39] <ToddBrandt> kyleN_: can https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-applets/+bug/206389 be closed?
[00:54] <kyleN_> ToddBrandt: question: is there another moblin bug or other commitment to make theme switching for the  marquee panels work when the /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme key changes? this is an issue we need to follow through on. framework should work. gtk-theme-switcher ui is extra credit. by the way - my internet is hit or miss now since I am not at home.
[00:57] <ToddBrandt> kyleN_: bspencer is the owner of the marquee panels, I'll ping him on it. I guess it depends on how major an issue it is to fix. oh, and do you use gtk-theme-switcher instead of the gnome-control-center theme switcher? I'll try that if so since the gtk one is much lighter
[00:58] <kyleN_> ToddBrandt: the main point is to change the gconf key (however) and everything else works
[00:58] <kyleN_> the only part that doesn't now that I know of is the marquee panels
[00:58] <ToddBrandt> ok, let me put that in the comments of the bug then
[00:58] <kyleN_> thx
[00:58] <kyleN_> and it is major
[00:58] <ToddBrandt> high?
[00:59] <kyleN_> lets take that up in the thursday bug triage with tony?
[00:59] <ToddBrandt> soudns good, I'll leave it as is for now
[00:59] <kyleN_> ok
[00:59] <ToddBrandt> here's the comment: ok, this bug is nearly fixed. The only thing left is that the marquee doesn't seem to propagate theme changes when the gtk_theme key is changed.
[01:00] <kyleN_> excellent
[01:01] <kyleN_> appreciate...
[01:01] <ToddBrandt> no problem
[01:06] <bspencer> kyleN_,
[01:06] <kyleN_> yes bspencer
[01:06] <bspencer> per lool, apps usually don't listen to the gconf key
[01:07] <kyleN_> we need to take this up with bfiller and others present
[01:07] <bspencer> but your scenario should owrk
[01:07] <kyleN_> all gtk apps do here changes to THIS key
[01:07] <bspencer> gconf -- then ToddBrandt does something to notifiy
[01:07] <kyleN_> through xsettings
[01:07] <bspencer> yes.
[01:08] <bspencer> ok.  so let's discuss thursday
[01:08] <kyleN_> so marquee panels, as gtk apps should listen, right?
[01:08] <bspencer> not necessarily to the key, but via xsettings
[01:08] <kyleN_> ok. we have a talking point
[01:08] <kyleN_> let's discuss tomorrow
[02:23] <rolando-ve> Hi
[02:23] <rolando-ve> Well I'm very newby with this
[02:24] <rolando-ve> But I'll try to ask
[02:24] <rolando-ve> If anyone can Help me, I will so glad
[02:24] <rolando-ve> This is my case:
[02:25] <rolando-ve> I have in my hands a Mini Computer Pannel, this one have a Transmeta T5500 Processor
[02:25] <rolando-ve> And have 2 Gb Flash Disk
[02:25] <rolando-ve> I wanna install in this Ubuntu Mobile.
[02:25] <rolando-ve> It's? Possible?
[02:26] <rolando-ve> Have 256 RAM
[03:40] <rolando-ve> Help?
[03:40] <rolando-ve> :-D
[11:25] <linx> G'day u all
[11:26] <linx> I have a htc shift upmc (or close to be a upmc :D ) from where can I download the ubuntu mobile version to test it on it ?
[11:27] <linx> I did not say that address me to download it or see the evolution of this project
[11:27] <linx> I'm pretty interested in this kinda sowftware
[11:30] <linx> I'm not sure if htc shift is compatible now with ubuntu mobile
[11:32] <linx> In one of the links said that is ported on it but in the image creator stuff just talk about one dvice supported no the htc one
[11:33] <linx> please can any one address me ? is the first time that I take in touch with this project
[11:41] <linx> hi
[11:41] <linx> eo
[11:47] <linx> any available
[14:48] <Raseel> Hi guys, I need some help with image-creator
[14:49] <Raseel> After I install a target and Add Fsets (Samsung-full-moble-stack) , I tried running ume-xephyr-start
[14:49] <Raseel> But I got the following error : Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
[14:57] <lool> Raseel: This is probably not fatal
[14:57] <lool> Just a warning
[14:58] <Raseel> @lool :  Yes, but my UI won't open up
[14:59] <Raseel> @lool :  It just crashes
[15:01] <lool> Raseel: Does other stuff come up in your xephyr?
[15:02] <persia> Raseel: And if it comes up (xclock is a good test app), does it come up full-screen?
[15:11] <lool> ppa copies are really nice
[15:12] <lool> cprov: Nice ^ :)
[15:12] <cprov> lool: thanks
[15:12] <lool> cprov: Do you happen to know why lpia is shown as official for hardy and not for gutsy?
[15:12] <lool> AFAIK, the binaries are still on ports.u.c, not archive.u.c
[15:13] <cprov> lool: it's configured that way, check with some archive-admin to know if they have any reason. They can change it.
[15:13] <lool> Ok, thanks
[15:13] <lool> "You can now subscribe to all the bugs affecting a project group" cool
[15:13] <lool> I can finally subscribe to moblin bugs
[16:58] <davidm> meeting starts in 2 minutes
[16:58] <davidm> looking to be a short meeting
[16:58] <Zic> davidm: in #ubuntu-meeting ?
[16:59] <davidm> here
[16:59] <davidm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting/20080501
[17:00] <davidm> #startmeeting
[17:00] <Zic> (thanks)
[17:00] <davidm> Opps no mootbot
[17:00] <davidm> Oh well I'll make manual logs
[17:01] <davidm> bspenser is not here
[17:01] <davidm> topic was: (bspencer) document status of i18n of moblin modules on Ubuntu wiki; needs discussion with asac and cwong for FF [cted]
[17:03] <davidm> I'll take that as no one has any input, I'll carry it forward then.
[17:03] <davidm> next topic was: (davidm) fix links in IRC logs
[17:04] <davidm> Which I have accomplished
[17:04] <davidm> Ah, hi bspencer
[17:04] <bspencer> morning
[17:04] <davidm> I'll repost the query for you
[17:04] <davidm> mootbot is missing this morning so I'll make logs manually
[17:05] <davidm> new topic: (bspencer) document status of i18n of moblin modules on Ubuntu wiki; needs discussion with asac and cwong for FF [cted]
[17:05] <Hobbsee> ah yes, should poke to get that recreated.
[17:05] <davidm> bspencer, progress?
[17:05] <bspencer> posted
[17:05] <bspencer> I added a link to Kyle's i18n page
[17:05] <davidm> bspencer, thanks.  Great, anything that will raise issues?
[17:06] <bspencer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/I18nMobileCode/ApplicationStatus
[17:06] <bspencer> issues:  2 "In progress" components
[17:06] <bspencer> perhaps we can prioritize these in tony's sync-up meeting with us at 10am
[17:06] <davidm> OK sounds good.
[17:07] <davidm> Do I need to carry anything for next week?
[17:07] <bspencer> the two in-progress will probably be tracked elsewhere, so I guess not
[17:07] <bspencer> as bugs, for example.
[17:07] <davidm> OK, thanks
[17:08] <davidm> OK that concludes old business then
[17:08] <davidm> And I don't have any new topics on the meeting page.
[17:08] <davidm> Any opens from the floor?
[17:08] <GrueMaster> When can we expect the next Beta snapshot?
[17:09] <davidm> GrueMaster, the next one should be tomorrow morning
[17:09] <GrueMaster> Ok, thanks.
[17:09] <bspencer> yes, and what is our target goal for UME release?
[17:09] <davidm> StevenK, is finishing it in his AM and will post.
[17:10] <davidm> bspencer, target is currently WW20 for RC
[17:10]  * bspencer scrambles for decoder ring
[17:10] <davidm> might slip depending on bug lists
[17:10] <davidm> Week of the 11th
[17:10] <bspencer> May 11-17th
[17:10] <bspencer> got it
[17:10] <davidm> with a final (I hope) by May 30
[17:11] <davidm> We will continue to work bug fixes during UDS if need be and then go final after we are all back from it.
[17:11] <GrueMaster> With that in mind, there are a few basic holes that need to get filled.  Namely, automount for USB and file management.
[17:12] <davidm> GrueMaster, file management?
[17:12] <bspencer> GrueMaster, for "file management" you want a file manager program?
[17:12] <bspencer> like nautilus
[17:12] <GrueMaster> Kind of hard to transfer files otherwise.
[17:12] <bspencer> initially we tried to hide the file view to the user and make the import utilties smart enough to show the right info.
[17:12] <GrueMaster> The media player doens't have one.
[17:12] <davidm> That was decussed in prior UDS and decided not to have one.
[17:12] <bspencer> I have some ideas here.
[17:12] <bspencer> GrueMaster, I think we can solve your issues w/o a file manager per say
[17:12] <bspencer> but open for debate.
[17:13] <bspencer> sometimes we make things harder by trying to make them simpler.
[17:13] <GrueMaster> Not looking for anything major, but the users will probably like to organise their files and documents somehow.
[17:13] <davidm> We can add something but at this late date will not be hildonized
[17:14] <GrueMaster> I haven't tried the import from media player, but if it just goes and grabs, I'd hate to plug a 160gb external drive to my 4Gb mid.
[17:14] <davidm> This might be a UDS topic for next version
[17:15] <davidm> would be interesting since it will fill flash pretty quickly.
[17:15] <bspencer> GrueMaster, agree
[17:16] <GrueMaster> At any rate, we still need to implement automount for usb drives.  Unless we want the user to open a terminal and manually mount drives.
[17:16] <davidm> I was under the impression that it was automouting them
[17:16] <davidm> But if not have you filed a bug?
[17:16] <GrueMaster> It doesn't here.
[17:17] <GrueMaster> I can file a bug, but I'm a bit gun shy after the last one.
[17:17] <davidm> cgregan, have you come across this?
[17:17] <GrueMaster> And I had reported this a long time ago, before launchpad.
[17:17] <cgregan> In an interview for henrik
[17:18] <davidm> cgregan, Ok
[17:18] <GrueMaster> This may have been fixed in the dailies.  Last time I looked at this was 0408
[17:18] <davidm> GrueMaster, I'll ask cgregan to catch up with you later to get this checked out.
[17:18] <GrueMaster> ok
[17:19] <davidm> I seem to remember that there was some issue but it was with MIC not making a partation that was needed.
[17:19] <davidm> OK any other issues?
[17:19] <GrueMaster> That may have been for the usb client.
[17:20] <davidm> could be
[17:20] <davidm> OK, if no other issues, endmeeting going once............................................................
[17:21] <davidm> OK, if no other issues, endmeeting going twice....................
[17:23] <davidm> endmeeting
[17:23] <davidm> Thanks everyone.
[17:31] <cgregan> GrueMaster, davidm: I have seen this. I would expect a file manager window or some sort of wizard to come up when you insert a USB drive. But no action is taken. I believe there is some work on this in Lex.
[17:31] <davidm> cgregan, the media player should import music, no file manager is expected
[17:32] <davidm> that was decided last UDS.
[17:32] <cgregan> Ok...lemme load a couple files to my key
[17:32] <davidm> But if USB is not getting mounted that is an issue.
[17:32] <GrueMaster> Shouldn't udev at least mount the drive?  When I manually mount a drive, then the media manager window pops up asking if I want to import files.
[17:32] <cgregan> I see
[17:32] <cgregan> What is the default device?
[17:33] <cgregan> Where does the spec say it should be mounted? /media ?
[17:33] <GrueMaster> default device?  It depends on if there is a partition defined on the device or not.
[17:33] <cgregan> /dev/?
[17:33] <cgregan> sbd?
[17:33] <GrueMaster> the device shows up in /dev, but is not mounted.
[17:34] <GrueMaster> could be sdb, or sdc if you have two usb devices.
[17:34] <GrueMaster> could also be sdb1 if it is an original device not imaged with dd.
[17:37] <cgregan> GrueMaster: Yep..no mounted FS on my Jax device
[17:37] <cgregan> Looks like we are not doing it
[17:37] <cgregan> Definite bug. Please enter
[17:37] <davidm> cgregan, please add it to the bug list then, thanks
[17:38] <cgregan> davidm: Ok..I will file
[17:51] <qense> Does Ubuntu Mobile support Blackberry?
[17:52] <qense> And what sync utilities are there to sync it with your Ubuntu desktop?
[17:53] <GrueMaster> qense:  To the first question - no.  Please read the FAQ.  To the second question, I'm not sure that has been addressed yet.  It is a good question, though.
[17:53] <qense> thanks!
[18:07] <tonyespy_> ToddBrandt, bspencer: anyone going to participate in the bug triage mtg?
[18:08] <ToddBrandt> tonyespy: I'm in the bridge
[22:25] <ScorpKing> hi guys. how much will image-creator download?
[22:26] <ScorpKing> i'm at "I: Retrieving dpkg-dev" now.
[22:36]  * ScorpKing needs to reboot..
[22:59]  * ScorpKing is back..
[22:59] <adem> hello
[23:00] <adem> i have a question, does port ubuntu on a pocket pc, like the htc polaris
[23:00] <adem> anyone?
[23:07] <GrueMaster> Apparently the FAQ doesn't cover this.  Or, you missed the link at the top of the room.  In short, no.
[23:07] <persia> adem: Not currently.  There largest issue currently is CPU support: Ubuntu Mobile is only for i386 devices at this point.
[23:19] <ScorpKing> how can i make the image-creator download the packages from my local repo instead of the internet?
[23:21] <ScorpKing> nvm. found it in /usr/share/pdk/default_config/defaults.cfg


[09:30] <gopal> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198665
[09:34] <apw> gopal, thanks
[09:34] <apw> b 7
[18:32] <gopal> anyone online ?
[18:51] <gopal>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[18:51] <gopal> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198665
[18:55] <alkisg> gopal: I'm sure that ubuntu devs here have seen it, you posted it like 100 times :)
[18:56] <alkisg> Needinfo means you need to answer to the bug there
[18:56] <gopal> alkisg: already did
[19:07] <alkisg> Cool, now patience. Sometimes it takes a lot of time for bugs to get solved, from days, weeks, to even months
[19:29] <sforshee> tseliot: I can't remember if I pinged you about this before, but bug #1737750 has a patch attached to fix build errors in nvidia-304 with 4.15
[19:49] <tjaalton> 304 should be removed
[19:49] <tjaalton> it's dead upstream
[19:50] <apw> tjaalton, in bionic?  file a removal bug with that information in it
[19:51] <tjaalton> yep
[20:00] <tjaalton> bug 1748000
[20:01] <tjaalton> nice #


[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[11:07] <dholbach> davidcalle, I renamed some of the pending dev.u.c branches
[11:08] <dholbach> importer-post-deployment-fixes just contains fixes for the importer (stuff we uncovered after locally trying to update the pages to 16.04)
[11:08] <dholbach> hero-tour-changes is based on top of that, but contains stuff which is necessary for the hero tour
[14:15] <davidcalle> dholbach: thanks
[17:34] <mhall119> davidcalle: I'd like to try working on our deployment today, are you doing something with it or can I try destroying and re-deploying it?
[18:15] <mhall119> davidcalle: ping me when you're around please


[05:24] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:25] <daftykins> \o
[05:25]  * daftykins yawns
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> long night?
[05:33] <daftykins> yep
[05:35] <daftykins> lotus can i borrow £528? http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Components/cat/Graphics-Cards-Nvidia/subcat/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> what a monster that is right
[05:36] <daftykins> hehe yeah, although it's actually quite a flawed design from the reviews i've read... so i'll be waiting to see what the third party ones are like... plus the slightly slower 1070
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> re-sale a few other stuff you have laying around :p
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> thats how i do it if i need cash
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> still got 2 laptops to sale 2nd hand here
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> mac & acer
[05:38] <daftykins> ah yeah
[05:39] <daftykins> oh i'm not that desperate, in fact i just ordered a 500W PSU to throw in my old core 2 quad to get that up and working again
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> you keep all for yourself, ok thats also good
[05:39] <daftykins> probably give that one away
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> i recently received 4 sigar boxes full of ddr rams
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> the uncle of my gf, goes to the trash containers where ppl throw away hardware
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> and he takes all back to his home
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> you wouldnt believe what ppl throw away!
[05:42] <daftykins> :D
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> laptops, screens,desktops with data, working hd's
[05:42] <daftykins> oh i do, i hear about it a lot over here
[05:43] <daftykins> a friend of my dad calls it "meerkat alley"
[05:43] <daftykins> 'cause when anyone turns up, they all stand up and look over like meerkats ;)
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:45] <daftykins> it'd be neat to hang out there, but it's a bit of a gamble
[05:45] <daftykins> got enough crappy machines on the shelf already :)
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> :p
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> i have plenty of hardware to start my business
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> its a matter of time now :p
[05:46] <daftykins> you got any laptop RAM in that collection? :>
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> yes
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> 40 banks
[05:47] <daftykins> i'm still after a 2GB DDR2 SODIMM for the macbook i have here, shame TJ can't find it :D
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> i got 2 sorts of formats
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> those DIMMS are hard to get right?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> the most of what i have is ddr
[05:48] <daftykins> could be, bit old now
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: can you send me a pic of the right model?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ill have a look later
[05:51] <daftykins> http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/macbook-3%2C1/CT7932255
[05:51] <daftykins> crucial sell that sucker
[05:52] <daftykins> there's some trick to it for macs though, hrmm
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> put to favs
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ill search for it
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> is this the same size as ddr banks or smaller?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> like thos older dimms are smaller then ddr
[05:55] <daftykins> !mac
[05:56] <daftykins> yep i picked the right model :D
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: is it for an empty model you have laying around?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> or does it have another slot with 1
[06:01] <daftykins> it's got two existing modules yeah, 1 x 2GB and 1 x 512MB
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> ah so if i dont find 2, 1 is also good?
[06:02] <daftykins> weeell i'm really hoping to max it out and flip it :)
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> yeah of course
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> but if its free :p
[06:03] <daftykins> hehe
[06:03] <daftykins> i have some 1GB modules here already as it goes
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> ah
[06:03] <daftykins> haven't been bothered to check if they work
[06:05] <daftykins> still smells like a mac!
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> i have a working macbook late2006 here to seel also
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: http://www.2dehands.be/computer-game-consoles/computersystemen/apple-systemen/-koopje-macbook-pro-15-4-286894392.html
[06:11] <daftykins> ah-har a pro
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> have a nice sunday to all!
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:32] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[12:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[12:33] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj
[21:51] <Bashing-om> Ben64: In a fresh install does the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/+bug/1579712 appstream bug still apply ?
[21:52] <Ben64> not sure
[21:53] <Bashing-om> Me neither ! .. Seems a possibility in raul782_ case .
[21:53] <OerHeks> only for existing users of that package that turn their computer on, today
[21:57] <Switches> In a fresh install from the current iso, it probably would unless they have the "get updates while installing" thing checked
[21:58] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Of consideration here is a clean install of 16.04 .. Maybe if the burn is prior to the bug then it still applies ?
[21:58] <OerHeks> oh ofcourse, clean install too
[22:10] <Bashing-om> Re-booting to verify in terminal a command .. be back soonest .