[06:33] <CarlFK> newbuntu: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:34] <b1rken> I want to listen / play the movies in Ubuntu, from the drives i can normally access in Windows XP
[06:34] <nickrud> good night all
[06:34] <newbuntu> can you put the ip instraf of hostname?
[06:34] <b1rken> How can i access shared folders (Windows) in ubuntu?
[06:34] <newbuntu> instwad..
[06:34] <CarlFK> newbuntu: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS><-IP ;)
[06:34] <newbuntu> dang keyboard
[06:34] <noiesmo> !smb
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about smb
[06:34] <newbuntu> thx
[06:34] <noiesmo> !samba
[06:34] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:34] <roostishaw> how do i resatart apache?
[06:35] <teckfatt> gdb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d16593
[06:35] <polpak> roostishaw: /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[06:35] <noiesmo> roostishaw,  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[06:35] <polpak> roostishaw: or that
[06:35] <roostishaw> sudo: /etc/init.d/httpd: command not found
[06:36] <roostishaw> same with apache
[06:36] <ttongfly_> do it command "apachectl restart"
[06:36] <newbuntu> carl thanks ! a lot.. im in there
[06:36] <gdb> teckfatt: And what is happening in your /etc/resolv.conf file when you restart your machine?
[06:36] <polpak> roostishaw: you sure apache's installed?
[06:36] <bimberi> roostishaw: put the 2 in :)
[06:36] <roostishaw> polpak, yes. im sure
[06:36] <roostishaw> ahh, right
[06:36] <nightstalker07> does anyone know of any errors with usplash....upon boot, my laptop just displays a black screen up to the login screen?...thanx
[06:36] <roostishaw> there we go, thx
[06:36] <teckfatt> gdb: i try now
[06:36] <CarlFK> newbuntu: yipee!
[06:37] <newbuntu> now i just need to figure out how to commsnd line copy files from a to b
[06:37] <newbuntu> doh
[06:37] <polpak> nightstalker07: you probably need to change the framebuffer args in your menu.lst
[06:37] <newbuntu> : )
[06:37] <CarlFK> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:37] <polpak> newbuntu: cp file1 /path/to/directory/.
[06:38] <Paladine> who's up for a bit of a challenge?
[06:38] <Paladine> I have two problems that are really starting to get my goat
[06:38] <nightstalker07> polpak: where do i find that in the file?...i'm a n00b
[06:38] <newbuntu> if sara is uder name on the box im on can I type  cp file1/sara/home  or do i need to put in the sara@196 blah blah?
[06:39] <polpak> nightstalker07: what's the resolution on your laptop?
[06:39] <newbuntu> user
[06:39] <polpak> newbuntu: you can use sudo cp file1 /home/sara/.
[06:39] <polpak> newbuntu: but you'll probably want to chown it also
[06:39] <newbuntu> okay thanks so much
[06:39] <nightstalker07> polpak: 1280x800
[06:40] <newbuntu> linux community is very helpful..
[06:40] <polpak> nightstalker07: well you can try a couple of things.. Lemme check
[06:40] <lufis> Is anyone else having trouble with checkinstall?
[06:40] <dr_willis> it pays to read up on the fundamentals of Bash and shell ussage. :)
[06:41] <Paladine> can anyon come up with any solutions for these 2 issues please - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204415
[06:42] <nothingman> having a strange problem where my three-head worked under Breezy and now doesn't under Dapper upgrade
[06:42] <DR_K13> #neowinlinux
[06:42] <teckfatt> gdb: yup, nothing there after restart....and after i setup the DNS server ip, the /etc/resolv.conf show the nameserver <ipaddress>
[06:42] <DR_K13> join /#neowinlinux
[06:43] <Flippy209> ic56: you around
[06:43] <bthornton> semi n00b question: where does the kernel source get installed when I install the kernel source deb through synaptic?
[06:43] <bthornton> 'cause it's not in  /usr/src/
[06:44] <dr_willis> What kernel source deb?
[06:44] <gdb> teckfatt: Well, I have no idea what could possibly be changing it if you're not using a dhcp connection... hrm.   Well, what you might try doing is setting up your DNS servers and running the command 'sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf' to set the immutable bit on the file.  This is *very* ghetto and it's best to figure out why it's being clobbered in the first place.
[06:45] <bthornton> dr_willis: linux-source
[06:45] <InvisiblePinkUni> after upgrading to dapper, my emacs only displays squares instead of fonts...
[06:45] <dr_willis> !info linux-source
[06:45] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:45] <polpak> nightstalker07: ok, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:45] <InvisiblePinkUni> !emacs
[06:45] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[06:45] <newbuntu> how do you cp a whole directory in commandline?
[06:45] <Hmmmm> anyone have any experience setting up gforge on ubuntu?
[06:45] <dr_willis> package size 22 kB ? That seems.. to me - to not be the source code for the kernel.
[06:45] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, like this you mean http://www,paladine.org.uk/funky-saveas-dialog.jpg  ???
[06:46] <bthornton> dr_willis: yes, but linux-source depends on linux-source-[kernel version] , which contains the "stock" source.
[06:46] <dr_willis> !bash
[06:46] <xanza> lkj
[06:46] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:46] <teckfatt> gdb: ic, thank you so much for ur time....i will have a try
[06:46] <dr_willis> bthornton,  fire up synaptic and see what files it put where.
[06:46] <bthornton> or contains something big, because it just downloaded 44 MB
[06:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: yup... like that
[06:46] <polpak> newbuntu:  cp -r /source/path  /destination/path/.
[06:46] <newbuntu> thanks polpak
[06:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: what do i do?
[06:46] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, if you figure ou how to fix it, give me a shout :)
[06:46] <gdb> teckfatt: Ah, no worries, I wouldn't thank me, I've not really given you a solution, merely a work around.  If you want to change DNS information in the future, you'll have to run 'sudo chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf' first to remove the immutable bit.
[06:46] <bthornton> dr_willis: I have, and according to that, there should be a: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[06:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: D'oh
[06:46] <bthornton> but there is nothing in /usr/src
[06:47] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, its been bugging the crap out of me for a week now
[06:47] <gdb> teckfatt: That "immutable" bit tells the kernel that absolutely nothing is allowed to make changes to that file, no matter if it's run as root or not.
[06:47] <Paladine> it is a locale issue
[06:47] <polpak> teckfatt: you can configure your computer to not recieve updates to DNS severs from DHCP
[06:47] <Paladine> but I have had zero success fixing it so far
[06:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: the funny thing is, emacs works fine in the terminal window
[06:47] <gdb> polpak: The interface is configured as a static, that's the confusing part of his issue.
[06:48] <polpak> gdb: hrm.. that makes no sense then
[06:48] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, something funky with xlib and locales
[06:48] <nightstalker07> polpak: would you like me to pastebin my menu.lst file
[06:48] <CarlFK> polpak: isn't there a line you can put in /etc/network/interfaces to override dhcp options (like dns?
[06:48] <Paladine> that image was my Sae As dialog from any Open Office app
[06:48] <gdb> polpak: Yes, 'iface eth1 inet static' is in his /etc/network/interfaces file.
[06:48] <Paladine> all other dialogs are fine
[06:48] <Paladine> just the Save As is broken
[06:48] <Xanza> can anyone point me to a tut on how start my own irc server
[06:49] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: for me the whole thing is broken... not just the save dialog box.....
[06:49] <gdb> polpak: It's a wireless connection to a linksys router so I'm wondering if that's an avenue for a solution, but I don't have any wireless Linux connections here to play with.
[06:49] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: right from the starting screen
[06:49] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, I am getting random issues system wide which seem to be all linked to the same problem
[06:49] <Hobbsee> teckfatt: sorry about the kick - but *please* dont paste in here
[06:50] <Paladine> same as the stupid tk "Black" error
[06:50] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: definitely some bug somewhere... me am new to linux so... not sure whats wrong... just hunting around the net for a solution
[06:50] <cmcgeecc> I've never used xchat what's it used for
[06:50] <polpak> nightstalker07: nah.. you can just add vga=789 to your kernel options
[06:50] <InvisiblePinkUni> cmcgeecc: its IRC client
[06:50] <CarlFK> cmcgeecc: hi - welcome to IRC - what xchat is for :)
[06:50] <polpak> nightstalker07: right after the splash option
[06:50] <cmcgeecc> ok
[06:50] <cmcgeecc> lol
[06:51] <polpak> nightstalker07: just be sure to backup the file first
[06:51] <cmcgeecc> thanks
[06:51] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, I am not new (been using *nix on and off for about 12 years) but I am not an expert either.  This particular problem is driving me nuts
[06:51] <teckfatt> Hobbsee: is ok,..
[06:51] <cmcgeecc> what's IRC?
[06:51] <cmcgeecc> lol
[06:51] <nightstalker07> polpak: i don't see where the splash option is
[06:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: hehehe :p
[06:51] <polpak> nightstalker07: you see the lines starting with kernel    /boot/......
[06:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: will stick to gedit then
[06:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: will reinstalling emacs solve anything?
[06:52] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, I can't use gedit, it dumps funky characters in
[06:52] <nightstalker07> polpak: yes
[06:52] <polpak> nightstalker07: add vga=789 to the end of the first one of those
[06:52] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, which I suspect is also related to the locale issue
[06:52] <polpak> nightstalker07: with a space between that and the splash option
[06:52] <Paladine> I have had to use nano for everything
[06:53] <InvisiblePinkUni> oh... ok... so the locale issue must be fixed....
[06:53] <teckfatt> polpak: can i know how to configure the com not to receive the DNS server update?
[06:53] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77591 does that make any difference?
[06:54] <nightstalker07> polpak: thanx let me just log in as root and i'll give it a shot.....see ya in a few
[06:54] <jherm> does anyone know why there isn't a current source package for the latest version of libdbus-1-2 [0.60-6ubuntu9] ? it seems silly to downgrade dbus just to be able to install the source package. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16596
[06:54] <polpak> teckfatt: if you edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:55] <CarlFK> teckfatt: man interfaces (maybe..., I am skimming it)
[06:55] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, you can try it, that won't fix my problem though
[06:55] <CarlFK> ah, I bet that;s it
[06:55] <dts> how do i completely reset an MySQL database including usernames etc, so it's as if it was just installed for thefirst time?
[06:55] <polpak> teckfatt: you can remove the option to the request line that says domain-name-servers
[06:55] <crimsun> jherm: in Edgy?
[06:55] <jherm> dapper
[06:56] <crimsun> jherm: Dapper has 0.60-6ubuntu8.
[06:56] <jherm> odd
[06:56] <CarlFK> teckfatt: man dhclient.conf - "In  some  cases, a client may receive option data from the server which     is not really appropriate for that client, ...
[06:56] <teckfatt> polpak: ic, thank you
[06:57] <jherm> so i guess downgrading dbus doesn't seem like a bad anyways
[06:57] <crimsun> jherm: where did you get 0.60-6ubuntu9?
[06:57] <teckfatt> CarlFK: ic....thanz
[06:57] <polpak> teckfatt: though it really shouldn't be using it if it's defined statically
[06:57] <jherm> is there a command that will tell me which repository it will be downloaded from, or what depends on it? i might be able to determine what broke it
[06:58] <jherm> aptitude didn't say anything would break if i did the downgrade, so, erm, hrm.
[06:58] <crimsun> jherm: apt-cache policy libdbus-1-2
[06:58] <Paladine> crimsun did you manage tohave a look at my audio problem?
[06:58] <Dralid> I'm having problems with Azureus, it is impossible to close the popup windows
[06:58] <jherm> it says under 0.60-6ubuntu9
[06:58] <jherm> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:59] <crimsun> Paladine: no, I miss everything not addressed directly to me at the beginning of the link
[06:59] <crimsun> Paladine: s/link/line/
[06:59] <dr_willis> Dralid,  seen that issue befor.. not sure about the detauls however. I think it was related to some sun/java issue.
[06:59] <Paladine> crimsun - here is the issue if you get a chance - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204030
[06:59] <crimsun> Paladine: I'll look in a few minutes
[07:00] <Paladine> crimsun, thanks man
[07:00] <crimsun> jherm: what does the changelog say?
[07:00] <jherm> crimsun, thank you also
[07:00] <jherm> changelog? should i be looking at that particular file it pointed to
[07:01] <teckfatt> gdb: do u know where is the file tat save the location on the network control panel? i have create fill of location just wanna know where the file is...]
[07:01] <crimsun> jherm: zless /usr/share/doc/libdbus-1-2/changelog.Debian.gz
[07:01] <crimsun> jherm: what's the entry for 0.60-6ubuntu9?
[07:02] <jherm> crimsun: mind if i message you?
[07:02] <gdb> teckfatt: The network control panel edits /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf -- it edits some others as well, but that's not relavent to your issue.
[07:02] <crimsun> jherm: I prefer to keep it in-channel if you don't mind, since queries notify me
[07:02] <jherm> ok i'll put it up on the paste board
[07:04] <zF> What's the easiest way to transfer files between two networked Ubuntu PCs
[07:04] <teckfatt> gdb: yes, i just curios where the file save the 'location' data
[07:04] <wasabi> The network.
[07:04] <crimsun> Paladine: pastebin ``cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[07:04] <spades> zF rsync or scp?
[07:05] <jherm> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16597
[07:05] <gdb> teckfatt: Oh, as in profile information for Home, Office, Traveling, and so on.  I don't know, to be honest.
[07:05] <zF> spades, thanks. I figured scp but just wanted to hear what other people had to say
[07:05] <spades> zf i would do rsync personally
[07:05] <speirs> i have a x700 agp on a desktop. ati 3d driver works fine. but i cant use virtual terminal ctrl alt fn. kinda frustrating..
[07:06] <Kazukisan> How do i stop firefox from opening .wma and .wmv Files in totem !! ?
[07:06] <harisund> does dapper rely on /etc/X11/xorg.conf for its display properties, or is that file left there for legacy purposes only and there is another video settings files in Dapper?
[07:06] <spades> Kazukisan under preferences should be actions somwhere, remove .wmv
[07:06] <crimsun> harisund: that's the X.Org conffile, yes.
[07:06] <Paladine> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16598
[07:06] <harisund> crimsun ok thank heavens..
[07:06] <h4v0k> I messed up
[07:07] <Kazukisan> spades: that did not help
[07:07] <h4v0k> now I cant unmount my floppy
[07:08] <newbuntu> U had one more question about ssh , im trying to copy some music directories over from my home machine to here, when I sudo cp -r the folder it does it doesnt give an error , but i also doesnt show up at this end
[07:08] <h4v0k> does anyone know a command to force a unmount
[07:08] <spades> Kazukisan try right clicking on the file and changing what it opens with?
[07:08] <newbuntu> I had..
[07:08] <spades> from withing a file manager
[07:08] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to convert a partition from ext2 ot ext3.  would it be best to just make a new ext3 partition and move the old stuff bit-by-bit, resizing as i go?
[07:08] <Kazukisan> spades: good idea sec
[07:08] <h4v0k> for some reason I cant open fstab with gedit
[07:08] <nightstalker07> polpak: thanks for the help, it worked
[07:08] <jherm> h4v0k: umount -f
[07:08] <ToHellWithGA> h4v0k: are you typing "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"?
[07:08] <jherm> er, hrm, nevermind
[07:08] <h4v0k> yes
[07:08] <yorty> what you talking about!!?
[07:08] <Kazukisan> spades: nvm its already set to what i want it to open with
[07:09] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: tunefs -j <device>
[07:09] <crimsun> jherm: that's not 0.60-6ubuntu9, that's 0.60-2ubuntu9
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: that's it?
[07:09] <jherm> sorry crimsun
[07:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone got the partypoker running ?
[07:09] <gdb> ToHellWithGA: You can just add a journal and continue using it as ext3.
[07:09] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: yup, that's it, well, umount first
[07:09] <h4v0k> (gedit:8344): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `BonoboMDI'
[07:09] <gdb> ToHellWithGA: There is no difference between ext2 and ext3 other than the existance of a journal in ext3.
[07:09] <h4v0k> bonobo wtf
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> but that journal is a good thing, right?
[07:09] <newbuntu> polpak whats the command to chown a directory so you can copy it?
[07:10] <Healot> better ToHellWithGA
[07:10] <yorty> oh my god !!what a poor os!!
[07:10] <gdb> ToHellWithGA: Yes, it is. :-)
[07:10] <ToHellWithGA> of course i'll unmount it first.  i don't want to break my data lol
[07:10] <Healot> yorty: not as expensive as Windows XP right?
[07:10] <crimsun> Paladine: do you use multiple sound cards?
[07:10] <Paladine> crimsun, nope just the onboard ac97 card
[07:10] <yorty> i agree with u!!
[07:10] <ToHellWithGA> is reiser established well enough that it's worth looking into?
[07:10] <Paladine> although it is showing 2 devices
[07:10] <jherm> crimsun: no entry in the changelog for 0.60-6ubuntu9
[07:10] <crimsun> Paladine: try removing ~/.asoundrc . That should cure it.
[07:10] <Paladine> I presume the second is midi
[07:10] <squiggly> I think the primary driving force behind Ubuntu is that they ship for free
[07:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone got the partypoker running ?
[07:11] <squiggly> That and the package manager
[07:11] <crimsun> Paladine: it's a known issue, and I'll try and push a fix for it into dapper-updates.
[07:11] <Paladine> crimsun, thanks I will try that now
[07:11] <yorty> hi!!~healot
[07:12] <h4v0k> jherm whatelse do i need to put in
[07:12] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: stick to ext3 would be a better choice... you can try that out though
[07:12] <crimsun> jherm: it would be at the top of the file.
[07:12] <jherm> h4v0k: i found out umount -f is only for NFS filesystems, so if thats what you're trying to forcefully unmount, use it, otherwise i'm not sure :/
[07:12] <crimsun> jherm: can you pastebin ``apt-cache policy libdbus-1-2'' please?
[07:12] <jherm> crimsun: ...ubuntu8 is at the top and theres no entry for 9. hrm. duh
[07:12] <jherm> its because i went back to the older version
[07:12] <ToHellWithGA> oh boy.  i'm getting the following. from "tune2fs -j /dev/sda1" i get "The filesystem already has a journal"
[07:13] <jherm> most likely
[07:13] <h4v0k> oh:|
[07:13] <crimsun> jherm: right, but where did you get 9?
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> should i just mount it as ext3 when i remount it?
[07:13] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: it's an ext3 then
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> i made it as ext2
[07:13] <Paladine> crimsun, that is almost working, I am getting nothing on center or LFER now, but front and back are all working
[07:13] <crimsun> jherm: I can't see 9 anywhere in our archive.
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> i do know that ubuntu tried to automatically mount it as ext3
[07:13] <Paladine> LFE sorry
[07:13] <crimsun> Paladine: good, now can you pastebin ``amixer''?
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> would it have *made* a journal at that point?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > anyone here know of a gui development software for PERL ?
[07:14] <jherm> crimsun: now it says ...ubuntu8 is the latest versionnn
[07:14] <blank_> hey guys
[07:14] <blank_> I need a good SVN web front-end
[07:14] <jherm> let me see if i can get back to where i was
[07:14] <blank_> such as trac, but trac requires python
[07:15] <blank_> anyone have any suggestions?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: what's my filesystem check command?
[07:15] <Paladine> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16599
[07:15] <jcan_ras> i have a shell script I want to run at startup, can sum1 tell me how to do it?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> i want to check this drive big time now that i know it confused itself between ext2 and ext3
[07:15] <Healot> "fdisk -l <device>" - ToHellWithGA
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> system fat16?
[07:16] <m1ndsurfer> So say I've installed Eclipse JDT with Synaptic. How do I run it? How do I find out how to run it?
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> shouldn't it say system linux?
[07:17] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: pastebin the fdisk output
[07:18] <crimsun> Paladine: amixer set 'LFE' 80% && amixer set 'Duplicate Front' on
[07:18] <ToHellWithGA> http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/72849
[07:19] <Paladine> crimsun, that now sends front to back (left and right) kills back and still no center or woofer
[07:20] <Healot> ToHellWithGAL: is that the drive where you are trying to mount the ext3 partition?
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/72851 all of my other partitions that are ext3 are listed as Id: 83 and System: Linux
[07:20] <crimsun> Paladine: ok, revert the 'Duplicate Front' toggle, and mute 'External Amplifier'
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: that is the drive that was formatted as ext2 for a few months now
[07:21] <Paladine> crimsun, got the syntax for me?
[07:21] <crimsun> Paladine: amixer set 'Duplicate Front' off && amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[07:21] <mikeandmore> any body compile the lastest kernel <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:22] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: somehow it was mount as ext3 and journal was added the the partition
[07:22] <Healot> maybe?
[07:22] <Paladine> crimsun, front and rear working again but no center or woofer and front right still gives outputfor a few seconds after rear right output starts
[07:22] <ToHellWithGA> i guess it *has* a journal although i wouldn't know how to verify that
[07:22] <farous> mikeandmore: i did not compile but i run the kernel on debian sid
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> is there a way i can set ID to 83 and System to linux?
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> i don't like it masquerading as fat16 to fdisk
[07:23] <crimsun> Paladine: are you using the latest bios for that motherboard?
[07:23] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: it is linux partiton
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> it is
[07:24] <Healot> oh, with the fat16 partition
[07:24] <Paladine> crimson, I may not be, I will check see when the last one was released.  I updated it a few months back but a newone may have been released since
[07:24] <Healot> fdisk /dev/sda then
[07:24] <Healot> press h when you're the fdisk prompt
[07:24] <mikeandmore> farous: you're running on laptop or desktop?
[07:24] <Healot> check out for the command to change the partition type
[07:25] <Healot> then press w to write the changes :)
[07:25] <farous> mikeandmore: i am running it on my compaq laptop because of the broadcom wirless card
[07:25] <jcan_ras> i have a shell script I want to run at startup, can sum1 tell me how to do it?
[07:25] <dooglus> jcan_ras: append a line that runs it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:25] <farous> mikeandmore: and seems things have changed so am still configuring the system. but the wirless card work
[07:25] <dooglus> jcan_ras: make sure the script is executable
[07:26] <dooglus> jcan_ras: and it'll be run by root
[07:26] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: thank you
[07:26] <cryptic> morning
[07:26] <dooglus> how can I find the URL for my local ubuntu repository?
[07:26] <Paladine> crimsun, checking asus site now
[07:26] <jcan_ras> thanx yall
[07:27] <newbuntu> can anyone tell me how to copy a directory using shh commandline? I'm trying to copy a directory from my computer to my girlfriendsd
[07:27] <farous> dooglus: ubuntu website. i would recommend netslect too if you need the fastest connection will do it automatically for you
[07:28] <Paladine> crimsun, I think I have 1015 BIOS (latest non beta is 1016) so I will do a quick reboot and check
[07:28] <dooglus> farous: thanks, but which ubuntu website?
[07:28] <mikeandmore> farous: can your computer hibernate correctly?
[07:29] <dooglus> farous: there are lots of links on http://www.ubuntu.com/ - any idea which of them might help me find my local repositories?
[07:29] <farous> dooglus: i know it is on ubuntu.com but you will need to search for it sorry am really busy now with some config
[07:29] <farous> mikeandmore: did not check that yet. have prob with freq_scaling at the moment
[07:29] <animato> hello, i'm having troubles playing h.264 files in vlc
[07:29] <animato> it plays fine but the display is garbled
[07:30] <farous> dooglus: nope
[07:30] <animato> anyway to fix it?
[07:30] <animato> btw, mplayer plays them fine
[07:30] <Paladine> brb I will have to boot to windows to update thebios
[07:30] <dooglus> farous: I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - is that what you meant?
[07:31] <Twinxor> Does anyone have any experience with installing the open-source DRI video drivers?
[07:31] <mikeandmore> just apt-get upgrade from breezy.
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[07:34] (jcan_ras/#ubuntu) ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmidc.sh file, where and how should i put it in?
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) mikeandmore, i have no answer, but ut always does that
[07:34] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) Healot, the DRI only works on 8500+?
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: it's supposed to
[07:34] (newbuntu/#ubuntu) how do you chown a file? and what does it do?
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) u can hit ctrl + c to end it
[07:34] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) that wasn't apparent on the website
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) where can i find the backports?
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: in fact, the version in the repo right now is supposed to
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) and ure pc will boot faster cause it will skip it
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) really?
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) i'm using it now
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) what repo?
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) but then when u get to the genome
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: yes. which output are you using, xv or x11(shm)?
[07:34] (Healot/#ubuntu) for 8500 or lower, 3D acceleration is avail with the ati/radeon driver
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: dapper-backports
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) u will have to configure ure "network" by yourself
[07:34] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) Healot, the default ati/radeon ones work, but are pretty darn slow
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: (there's no backported vlc yet)
[07:35] (animato/#ubuntu) where can i find the dapper-back ports?
[07:35] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) it does not really feel accelerated in the least
[07:35] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) is ati or radeon a better choice, btw?
[07:35] (Hobbsee/#ubuntu) animato: they dont really exist yet - not much to backport from
[07:35] (jcan_ras/#ubuntu) ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file, where and how should i put it in?
[07:35] (garryF/#ubuntu) ati makes radeon
[07:35] (snoops/#ubuntu) Twinxor you mean ati or nvidia?
[07:36] (animato/#ubuntu) oh
[07:36] (cryptic/#ubuntu) yea
[07:36] (Healot/#ubuntu) Twinxor: both, "radeon" is the alias for the driver "ati"
[07:36] (cryptic/#ubuntu) nvidia or ati
[07:36] (animato/#ubuntu) crimsun, i think i tried both
[07:36] (animato/#ubuntu) neither works
[07:36] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) oh, ok
[07:36] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) I've seen people refer to it as a choice
[07:36] <garryF> np, nvidia seems better supported.
[07:36] <snoops> I find nvidia works a lot easier
[07:36] <Twinxor> well, I'd like to try DRI, just to get better support
[07:36] <crimsun> animato: ok, hang a week or so
[07:36] <cryptic> Twinxor, now u can tell them they are wrong :)
[07:36] <Healot> duck duck
[07:36] <animato> oh ok thanx
[07:36] <farous> Twinxor: did not test 3-d accel on using the ati module but it work with the radeon one
[07:36] <Sebo> hi
[07:36] <animato> at least i can still use mplayer for now :)
[07:36] <snoops> I had a terrible time trying to get my old radeon working in dri.. nvidia was simply install it and go through a config
[07:36] <Twinxor> guys, I already have a crummy ATI card in my laptop - I'm trying to get it working better
[07:37] <cryptic> any one here know anything about fish?
[07:37] <Twinxor> yeah, the DRI walkthrough on their wiki is very bare-bones
[07:37] <cryptic> like aquarium fish :)
[07:38] <Twinxor> I installed ubuntu-server on my aquarium
[07:38] <cryptic> hehe
[07:38] <newbuntu> is there a gui for ssh-server?
[07:38] <cryptic> no but seriously
[07:38] <Sebo> Is it possible to shutdown the autoconnect to an unsecure AP. All time gnome is started the wlan interface is connected to the AP "WLAN" and got an IP adress from there. How can I stop this?
[07:38] <s|k> libdvdcss2 can't be installed for some reason, what do I need to watch dvd's?
[07:38] <Twinxor> s|k, why won't it install?
[07:39] <s|k> Twinxor: says it's not available but referred to by another package
[07:39] <Twinxor> well, make sure you have the universe & multiverse repositories enabled
[07:39] <s|k> I Do
[07:39] <s|k> do*
[07:39] <Twinxor> it's not in the core repository because of copyright issues
[07:39] <mikeandmore> still have problems, I CANNOT HIBERNATE ON ANY KERNELS....(2.6.17 + 2.6.15ubuntu)
[07:39] <cryptic> what are the universe and multiverse?
[07:40] <Twinxor> do you see the package in synaptic?
[07:40] <jcan_ras> PLEEZE HELP ME! ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file, where and how should i put it in?
[07:40] <Twinxor> !repositories
[07:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:40] <farous> !caps
[07:40] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:40] <cryptic> hehe
[07:40] <cryptic> !multiverse
[07:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:41] <cryptic> oh ok
[07:41] <cryptic> repositories is the same thing :)
[07:41] <garryF> I am not sure how to run a script from a script file and so I kept silent. Better to say nothing, than guess and mess things up for ye jcan_ras.
[07:42] <Twinxor> yeah, multiverse is the one for packages with oppressive licensing terms
[07:42] <s|k> Twinxor: it's enabled
[07:42] <s|k> I still can't get it
[07:42] <Twinxor> again, do you see the package in synaptic?
[07:42] <Twinxor> make sure to reload
[07:43] <s|k> Twinxor: no I don't see it
[07:43] <CarlFK> jcan_ras: I would make sure /home/ras/wireless.sh  is executable (chmod u+x /home/ras/wireless.sh )
[07:43] <Twinxor> hit Reload in synaptic
[07:44] <newbieme> i have a newly installed ubuntu-server but i can't connect to it (ssh) but i can ping from it...
[07:44] <dooglus> farous: it looks like netselect needs a list of hosts to compare.  where do you get your list from?
[07:44] <CarlFK> jcan_ras: (u is for user, x is for execute - so it makes it exectuable by the user that owns it)
[07:44] <newbieme> how can i enable ssh to my setup?
[07:44] <CarlFK> newbieme: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:45] <Twinxor> s|k, does it work if you reload your package lists?
[07:45] <s|k> Twinxor: no it doesn't
[07:45] <Twinxor> if not, there's proably an error in your repository configuration
[07:45] <farous> dooglus: it did not here. all i did is i moved my sources.list file and let netselect write one from scratch. then i added the extra repos
[07:45] <dooglus> newbieme: are you running sshd?
[07:45] <s|k> heh
[07:45] <s|k> I don't have trouble installing anything else
[07:45] <newbieme> thanks guys
[07:45] <dooglus> farous: netselect doesn't write sources.list files - it compares the speed of the hosts you tell it about
[07:45] <Twinxor> do you see other multiverse packages, though?
[07:46] <farous> dooglus: give me a min
[07:46] <s|k> Twinxor: like which?
[07:46] <dooglus> farous: aah.  maybe you mean netselect-apt?
[07:46] <farous> dooglus: yap sorry about that
[07:47] <dooglus> farous: that's ok - thanks for the pointer :)
[07:47] <Twinxor> for instance, do you have a "Libraries (multiverse)" section in Synaptic?
[07:47] <farous> :)
[07:47] <s|k> Twinxor: where would that section be?
[07:48] <Twinxor> in the list of sections, on the left side of the Synaptic window
[07:48] <s|k> Twinxor: yes it is there
[07:48] <Twinxor> actually, it looks like I'm barking up the wrong tree
[07:50] <Twinxor> well, if all else fails, just download the .deb file and install that
[07:50] <s|k> hrm how do I do that?
[07:50] <s|k> oh I see
[07:50] <s|k> there are instructions on the wiki
[07:51] <Twinxor> oh, hey
[07:51] <Twinxor> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/ is what you want
[07:51] <Twinxor> looks like it's in another repository altogether
[07:51] <Twinxor> but if you add the one this blog talks about, you should get it
[07:51] <Locke> so i have the win32 codecs but i dunno how well it works..
[07:52] <Twinxor> yeah, in principle I can play WMVs, but it's pretty flaky
[07:52] <rob138> hi, is it at all possible to send a X application to another display while it is already open?
[07:52] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[07:52] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[07:52] <garryF> Not that I know of rob138
[07:53] <Madpilot> Twinxor, see ubotu's links ^^^
[07:53] <bjorn> heh
[07:53] <zcat[1] > !mplayer
[07:53] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[07:53] <rob138> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:54] <volt^warlock> How do i list all users I have on my server?
[07:54] <Twinxor> I believe I have those installed, Madpilot
[07:54] <rob138> another sort of related question, is it possible to suspend an application while loggin in/out of gdm?
[07:54] <Twinxor> slow system, imperfect codecs
[07:55] <Paladine> crimsun, k I have updated to latest BIOS, sound wise, front and back speakers are working but still nothing from center/LFE
[07:55] <rexykik> !nvidia
[07:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:55] <Jerusalem420> i want to upgrade to dapper
[07:55] <Jerusalem420> what is the name of the file i need to edit for the repositories?
[07:55] <Twinxor> !upgrade
[07:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:55] <Twinxor> good luck!
[07:55] <cryptic> lol
[07:55] <cryptic> Twinxor, is it hard?
[07:56] <crimsun> Paladine: are you using -25.43?  (``uname -r'')
[07:56] <Twinxor> no, it's very easy - except the 2% of the time when something blows up!
[07:56] <Paladine> crimsun, 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[07:57] <crimsun> Paladine: hmm. Ok. Try: amixer set 'LFE' off && amixer set 'LFE' 100% on
[07:59] <Paladine> still nothing on center or LFE just gonna check the cables in the back a sec
[07:59] <s|k> yay I am watching DVD's on Ubuntu :)
[08:00] <benplaut> 2 years later, the family desktop is finally converted.  What's the easiest way to share files and printer between two linux box?
[08:00] <Ian_II> When trying to install Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive, I'm getting errors while partitioning.
[08:00] <Ian_II> No error message is produced. I'm wondering if there is a log somewhere that I could share
[08:00] <cryptic> guys
[08:00] <soo> hi man~~
[08:00] <cryptic> quick and easy Q
[08:00] <cryptic> tar xvf httpd-NN.tar
[08:01] <Ian_II> or if I could partition it somewhere else
[08:01] <killaz> hi is there a way to emulate the other buttons of my mouse? I have a MX 510
[08:01] <Paladine> crimsun, everything is connected up ok
[08:01] <Ian_II> gparted maybe
[08:01] <cryptic> how do i choose the dir i want to extract that 2?
[08:01] <rob138> Can anyone help me fix my flash sound problem with firefox? i have looked at the RestricedFormats troubleshooting and none of its suggestions worked
[08:01] <spades> cryptic there should be a --dir option, check the man page
[08:01] <killaz> I know here is no drivers for it... but still I was wondering if there still could be a solution
[08:01] <cryptic> spades, i read through it and never saw it :(
[08:02] <cryptic> ill try again
[08:02] <garryF> !flash > garryf
[08:02] <crimsun> Paladine: ok, sec.
[08:03] <Ian_II> Has anyone else been able to install on an external USB HDD?
[08:03] <Paladine> crimsun, np
[08:03] <spades> killaz http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/)
[08:04] <spades> killaz https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  sorry wrong paste
[08:04] <Staz> hi I have this in my .bashrc file : PATH=$PATH:~/bin/
[08:04] <Staz> How can I add more directories to path?
[08:04] <cryptic> spades, no dir option in man pages
[08:04] <cryptic> im running hoary
[08:04] <cryptic> so it might not be updated :)
[08:05] <cryptic> !man
[08:05] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[08:05] <cryptic> where are those online pages
[08:06] <cryptic> HMM
[08:06] <konfuzed> hey what can I use to open MS Publisher files? oo.Impress does not have a filter for it
[08:06] <cryptic> tar xvf httpd-2.2.2.tar
[08:06] <spades> cryptic -C, --directory=DIR        change to directory DIR  maybe try mkdir DIR && tar xzf --directory=DIR ?
[08:06] <cryptic> ectracts it into a folder with that name
[08:06] <cryptic> its fine spades
[08:06] <spades> cryptic the good guys usually make it so it creates its own folder
[08:06] <Staz> Can I separate the dirs with : ?
[08:07] <hyphenated> Staz: for PATH, you have to separate them with :
[08:07] <Staz> cool and then I have to do that source command?
[08:08] <nbjayme> hello my friend has nVidia ethernet and i have Via ethernet  we have Linksys as hub ... the IP and Mask are correct but cannot ping to each other... ?
[08:08] <hyphenated> Staz: no.. the problem is you're putting it in ~/.bashrc instead of ~/.bash_profile
[08:08] <CarlFK> nbjayme: does the linksys have a dhcp server?
[08:09] <achandra> hello. I really havent dealt with this before..but how do you resolve an issue with an IRQ conflict inUbuntu? When I added memory to my laptop, it conflicts with my wireless card..but if i rmmod the driver and comment out the alias for it, it boots up fine.. any ides?
[08:09] <nbjayme> CarlFK, no we both use static IP...
[08:09] <Staz> hyphenated : what is the difference between the 2?
[08:09] <Staz> will this work ? --> PATH=$PATH:~/bin/:/~/Desktop/FiSH-irssi.v0.99-source/MIRACL/
[08:09] <Lathiat> no / before ~/Desktop
[08:09] <Staz> oh of course :)
[08:09] <Lathiat> but iirc for fish
[08:09] <Lathiat> PATH
[08:09] <Lathiat> isnt what you want
[08:10] <dooglus> hyphenated: it's best not to recommend using .bash_profile - it doesn't get used often
[08:10] <hyphenated> dooglus: it's used once per login
[08:10] <Staz> Lathiat : You have got fish working in irssi?
[08:10] <Lathiat> and not on x terminals
[08:10] <Lathiat> Staz: yes it was a right cunt i cant remember 100% how i did it
[08:10] <hyphenated> Staz: ~/.bash_profile is read when you log in. you use this one to set environment variables like PATH
[08:10] <dooglus> hyphenated: yes, but how often do you log in?  most people just use gdm
[08:10] <hyphenated> dooglus: once a day
[08:10] <dooglus> hyphenated: gdm doesn't run login shells
[08:10] <CarlFK> nbjayme: paste both /etc/network/interfaces to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:10] <Lathiat> Staz: bbiab
[08:11] <Staz> sure
[08:11] <CarlFK> nbjayme: and post the link here
[08:11] <Staz> Make sure that your Linux PATH points to the current directory, so that
[08:11] <Staz> executables can be run..
[08:11] <Staz> supposdly I need to edit path to point to MIRACL
[08:11] <dylan_> how can i make ubuntu start faster?
[08:11] <dooglus> Staz: you can put as many things in your PATH as you like, colon separated
[08:12] <dooglus> Staz: set it in ~/.xprofile, not ~/.bash_profile (if you use gdm)
[08:13] <Hobbsee> freaz: please turn that away message off thanks
[08:13] <JamesWC> got itunes anyone?
[08:14] <JamesWC> Itunes or aol anyone???????????
[08:14] <crimsun> Paladine: (phone conf atm)
[08:14] <achandra> dylan_: a suggestion would be to disable uneeded services..that start at boot. So using admin, then services see which one you dont need.
[08:14] <Paladine> crimsun, np I can wait, I appreciate the help
[08:14] <HedgeMage> JamesWC: is there any available evidence of your breathing?
[08:14] <cryptic> ok
[08:15] <cryptic> weird
[08:15] <JamesWC> what?
[08:15] <cryptic> i extract the latest apache2.2.2 and run .configure
[08:15] <cryptic> after runing it i cant find the make file :(
[08:15] <HedgeMage> wow, that was easy.
[08:15] <jimbo2006> lol Hedgemage
[08:15] <dooglus> Windows Media Player anyone???
[08:15] <dylan_> achandra, the GUI is limited
[08:16] <Patrick__> hey all
[08:16] <Patrick__> does anyone know how to hack through a routers password while being connected to it?
[08:16] <sss> hey guys
[08:16] <Patrick__> like, so you can change router settings, etc.
[08:16] <dylan_> Patrick__, ask somewhere else if this is malicious
[08:16] <Patrick__> its not malicious
[08:16] <Patrick__> most likely not
[08:16] <dylan_> k
[08:16] <dooglus> Patrick__: yes.  all you need to do is put the username into the username box, and the password into the password box.
[08:16] <Patrick__> ...
[08:17] <Patrick__> this is without knowledge of the user name and password
[08:17] <dooglus> Patrick__: if you don't know the password, do "social engineering"
[08:17] <cryptic> lol
[08:17] <cryptic> i have the same issue
[08:17] <Patrick__> the people are asleep..
[08:17] <achandra> dylan_: can you type sudo services_admin  and see what that gets ya?
[08:17] <cryptic> i need to get into my router
[08:17] <Patrick__> trust me
[08:17] <Patrick__> we would SIMPLY ask
[08:17] <sss> why my ubuntu run more and more slowly since the system start?anybody tell me?
[08:17] <dooglus> Patrick__: do you know where they live?  I know some good 'filez' on lockpicking
[08:17] <Patrick__> dude
[08:17] <Patrick__> we're talking in the SAME house
[08:17] <Patrick__> now
[08:17] <Patrick__> if you don't know
[08:17] <Patrick__> don't bother to reply again
[08:17] <dylan_> achandra, it gets me a gui ... but theres only 8 services listed
[08:18] <dooglus> Patrick__: try the default login and password - people don't usually change them
[08:18] <DarkMageZ> Patrick__, this channel is not for such things. just reset the router, and reconfigure it using the default username & password in the manual
[08:18] <sss> why my ubuntu run more and more slowly since the system start?anybody tell me?
[08:18] <cryptic> DarkMageZ,
[08:18] <cryptic> that is not possible
[08:18] <achandra> dylan_: in those services if you see something unecessary that doesnt need to start at boot, turn it off.
[08:18] <cryptic> not his router therefore he wont know account details
[08:18] <cryptic> they will be lost
[08:18] <ray__> is there a way to compile C programs so that they do memory transfers faster?
[08:19] <cryptic> i have the same issue, i need access to my router cause my brothere likes to change the pass, but then wont tell me the pass :(
[08:19] <dylan_> achandra, arent there more services i can look at?
[08:19] <blocky> cryptic, beat him up
[08:19] <farous> is it normal not to have an .ICEauthority file in my home dir
[08:19] <cryptic> lol
[08:19] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, who's internet is it? yours or his?
[08:19] <dylan_> achandra, i want to really boot this thing fast
[08:19] <dooglus> cryptic: there's usually a button on the router to reset everything
[08:19] <cryptic> blocky, im the younger bro
[08:20] <cryptic> DarkMageZ, its my parents but he thinks he owns it
[08:20] <dooglus> DarkMageZ: neither.  the internet is owned by Mr Bush.
[08:20] <cryptic> and dooglus if i reset it
[08:20] <crimsun> Paladine: are you just using speaker-test?
[08:20] <cryptic> he will know i tinkered
[08:20] <dooglus> cryptic: so?
[08:20] <cryptic> he must not know i got access to it
[08:20] <cryptic> or he will beat me
[08:20] <cryptic> thats what im trying to avoid here :)
[08:20] <Paladine> crimson, yeah
[08:21] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, is there any real disadvantage of not knowing?
[08:21] <cryptic> hence getting around the security :)
[08:21] <Paladine> crimsun, speaker-test -c6 -Dplug:surround51
[08:21] <cryptic> being able to change accounts when needed
[08:21] <cryptic> multiple accounts ftw
[08:21] <cryptic> but only he can change them
[08:21] <hybrid> lol
[08:21] <cryptic> but i cant ask him to change every time i want to play online
[08:21] <chennaituxian> Hey, my ubuntu daper has detected my wireless network, when i configured it and activated it, still the network connections shows eth1 to be disconnected, ifconfig gives correct details
[08:21] <achandra> dylan_: typing sudo dmesg, will also give you an idea of everything that starts.. by wittiling through rhat..you might see what is simply not needed..
[08:22] <crimsun> Paladine: do you get an error with -Dsurround51 instead of -Dplug:surround51?
[08:22] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, well go talk with your parents about it, get it sorted
[08:22] <cryptic> lol DarkMageZ it doesnt help
[08:22] <dylan_> achandra, so how do i stop a service?  is there a directory where the services are located?
[08:22] <cryptic> they are computer illetereate
[08:22] <nbjayme> CarlFK, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16601
[08:22] <cryptic> so they say he knows best
[08:22] <cryptic> cause he is older
[08:22] <dooglus> dylan_: the scripts which start and stop services are in /etc/init.d/
[08:22] <achandra> chennaituxian: are you using ndiswrapper?
[08:22] <cryptic> i dont see him using linux OR doing any programming
[08:22] <cryptic> so yea
[08:22] <chennaituxian> achandra: nope
[08:22] <dylan_> dooglus, thanks ... is there a gui that i can use for those?
[08:22] <cryptic> lol DarkMageZ it got so bad i ran away for 2 days
[08:22] <dooglus> dylan_: run "sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop" to stop it; replace 'stop' with 'start' to start it
[08:22] <Paladine> nope no error
[08:23] <Paladine> but same output
[08:23] <crimsun> Paladine: ok
[08:23] <achandra> chennaituxian: are you using network manager tool or wpasupplicant?
[08:23] <cryptic> and said i would only return on condition i get access to the router
[08:23] <cryptic> they said ok and nothing happened :(
[08:23] <dylan_> dooglus, will stopping the service stop it from starting on the next boot?
[08:23] <crimsun> Paladine: I think you're going to have to use custom routing
[08:23] <chennaituxian> achandra: the default network manager tool
[08:23] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, well you just need to run away properly
[08:23] <dooglus> dylan_: no
[08:23] <cryptic> hehe
[08:23] <cryptic> anyway
[08:23] <cryptic> i got to go to school now
[08:23] <dylan_> dooglus, how do i do that?
[08:23] <cryptic> i need to collect my report
[08:23] <cryptic> see what i got :)
[08:23] <dooglus> dylan_: the links in /etc/rc2.d/ say what's 'S'tarted or 'K'illed at level 2
[08:23] <Paladine> crimsun, sounds painful, is there a guide for it?
[08:24] <chennaituxian> achandra: how will i connect to my wireless, when it is detected and cofigured properly
[08:24] <crimsun> Paladine: thankfully, yes. Start with http://alsa.opensrc.org/SurroundSound
[08:24] <chennaituxian> configured*
[08:24] <crimsun> Paladine: what you'll be manipulating are the ttable parameters
[08:24] <achandra> chennai tuxian: I use a graphical tool...specifically it is called gnome network manager... you can search for it in synaptics..
[08:24] <Paladine> crimsun, thanks, I will have a look at it, appreciate your time on this and at least I have front and rear now, which is more than I had :)
[08:25] <crimsun> Paladine: unfortunately I can't tell you precise values to use, because that's specific to your hardware
[08:25] <CarlFK> nbjayme: "Ethernetfromothercomputersareworkingexceptthemyfriend's." - can the other computers ping you or your friend?
[08:25] <achandra> chennaituxian:when you use that tool..it will show visible wireless networks...and you can go from there...
[08:25] <Paladine> crimsun, np I will go by trial and error :)
[08:25] <achandra> chennaituxian: like you, i found the graphical tool...for properties and such to be quirky..
[08:26] <achandra> chennaituxian: does the ifconfig stuff look to be correct to you??
[08:26] <crimsun> Paladine: the only other controls I can see that you may wish to toggle are 'Channel Mode' and 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'
[08:26] <Staz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/9wsoCr57.html --> any idea whats wrong? (Has been driving me crazy all evening)
[08:26] <chennaituxian> ya
[08:26] <rexykik> what is the command to generate an xorg.conf?
[08:26] <rexykik> what is the command to generate an xorg.conf?
[08:26] <dooglus> rexykik: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:26] <dooglus> rexykik: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:26] <crimsun> Paladine: for instance: amixer set 'Channel Mode',0 '2ch'
[08:26] <chennaituxian> achandra: do you mean places-->system administration--> network tools ?
[08:27] <crimsun> Paladine: or: amixer set 'Channel Mode',0 '4ch'
[08:27] <nbjayme> CarlFK, the othe computer can ping me well.... i used the cable from the other computer and place it to my friend.... the hub activity light is working everything he tries to ping my computer.... also mine.... but i don't know why it cannot ping each other.
[08:27] <achandra> chennaituxian: nope.. its called networkmanager..
[08:27] <chennaituxian> ok
[08:27] <achandra> chennaituxian: youll have to apt it
[08:27] <nbjayme> CarlFK, *everytime he pings*
[08:28] <chennaituxian> achandra: ok, i now deactivated my eth1 as i am using ethernet in eth0
[08:28] <chennaituxian> achandra: can i use ndiswrapper instead ?
[08:29] <dooglus> Staz: where did you get that code from?
[08:29] <nbjayme> CarlFK, his Ethernet was working fine on other network (office)....
[08:29] <achandra> chennaituxian: if you dont "have" to use it..and the system is detecting your card properly..then there is no need.
[08:30] <chennaituxian> achandra: so i just need to have network manager
[08:30] <erez> to mount an iso file in need to : `mount -t iso file_location mount_point` , right?
[08:30] <Staz> dooglus : I am trying to compile fish for irssi
[08:30] <Staz> have had nothing but trouble.
[08:30] <Staz> that code is what I get when I type "make"
[08:31] <achandra> chennaituxian: Lets be clear here...and start over - 1) When you enable the wireless card...does it receive an address automatically or is it a static address??
[08:31] <dooglus> Staz: I know.
[08:31] <dooglus> Staz: where did you get the source code from?
[08:31] <iBrood> Hello everyone, can someone help me with KMPlayer
[08:31] <iBrood> ?
[08:31] <chennaituxian> achandra: I have to give a statis address and a gateway address, give dns also
[08:31] <Staz> http://fisk.sekure.us
[08:31] <dooglus> Staz: and where did you get MIRACL from?
[08:31] <Staz> fish*
[08:32] <achandra> chennaituxian: so all is set statically.. ??
[08:32] <Staz> wget http://indigo.ie/~mscott/miracl.zip
[08:32] <chennaituxian> achandra: yes
[08:32] <Staz> its what the fish guide recommended me to get.
[08:32] <achandra> chennaituxian: how are you specifying the AP?
[08:32] <achandra> chennaituxian: or is that where you are stuck..
[08:32] <iBrood> I need to record an RM video stream. Is that possible with KMPlayer?
[08:33] <CarlFK> nbjayme: "looks like it should work" - but I have to run (i need food)  - do ifconfig, post those  results - maybe someone else will see something
[08:33] <chennaituxian> I have an AP which we have here in the office
[08:34] <chennaituxian> am specifying in that network configurations GUI which comes when u double click the network monitor icon and press configure
[08:34] <achandra> chennaituxian: okay...to make things..signficantly easier...that NetworkManager tool..is what you need.
[08:34] <Staz> dooglus : You're familiar with MIRACL/
[08:34] <chennaituxian> achandra: ok fine
[08:34] <Staz> ?
[08:34] <nbjayme> CarlFK, okey thanks for the assistance...
[08:34] <chennaituxian> achandra: I will get them
[08:34] <achandra> chennaituxian: also when you enable that card...what "type" of card is it??
[08:34] <dooglus> Staz: no, but I can become familiar with it.  did you build and install it?
[08:35] <Staz> yes I think so
[08:35] <bulltitan> hi
[08:35] <Staz> I typed "bash linux"
[08:35] <chennaituxian> achandra: its an intel wireless card
[08:35] <Staz> thats what I was told to do
[08:35] <chennaituxian> achandra: how do i check the exact name ?
[08:35] <bulltitan> let's say that i have vmware with windows xp,... can i install a game in that virtual xp?
[08:35] <Staz> can I /msg you the instructions I was given?
[08:36] <achandra> chennaituxian: well..that is a little tougher...but lets see if can figure it out okay?
[08:36] <chennaituxian> achandra: ok
[08:36] <leboff>  hey, i'm trying to use gimp to go through a bunch of folders and resize jpgs and change them to bmp its about 800 folders.. 1 jpg each is that easy to do?
[08:36] <achandra> chennaituxian: sudo lspci
[08:36] <bulltitan> is taht possible?
[08:36] <bulltitan> that i mean
[08:36] <achandra> chennaituxian: see it ?
[08:37] <nbjayme> would it be okay if i directly place the ethernet cable from one computer to another?
[08:37] <dooglus> Staz: sure
[08:37] <Staz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tuQtkJ70.html
[08:37] <chennaituxian> achandra: what i have to look for
[08:37] <bulltitan> please anyone?
[08:38] <chennaituxian> achandra: i have ethernet, bluetooth and wireless in my laptop
[08:38] <achandra> chennaituxian: the type of intel wireless card...it should say...
[08:38] <nbjayme> dooglus,  we can communicate without the need of hub? no damage to nic?
[08:38] <chennaituxian> 82801 Mobile ?
[08:38] <dooglus> nbjayme: huh?
[08:39] <Staz> oh and this may be helpful : http://fish.sekure.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=165 (rag3rac3rs post)
[08:39] <dooglus> nbjayme: you need a 'crossover cable' to connect directly without a hub
[08:39] <tomlikestorock> Heya. Anybody else notice this? Turn off tv-out on a laptop ati card, and it doesn't work at all in ubuntu. Turn it on in windows and you control it in ubuntu. What gives?
[08:39] <achandra> chennaituxian: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[08:40] <achandra> chennaituxian: yours should say something similar
[08:40] <dooglus> Staz: ok
[08:40] <nbjayme> dooglus, okay thanks... we were about to do it on the network cable we have because we wonder we cannot ping to each other... thanks for the confirmation....
[08:40] <dooglus> Staz: did you get errors from "bash linux"?
[08:40] <dooglus> Staz: I see: sample.cpp:28: error: 'pi' was not declared in this scope
[08:40] <Staz> bash linux worked fine
[08:41] <Staz> what does that mean ? :)
[08:41] <chennaituxian> achandra: wait, i switched off that wireless sometime ago in my laptop
[08:42] <Hobbsee> Staz: what's this for?
[08:42] <Staz> Its fish for irssi
[08:42] <achandra> chennaituxian: turn it back on and look for it with lspci...
[08:42] <achandra> chennaituxian: then we will lsmod and see if ubuntu loaded a module for it automatically..
[08:43] <Staz> Hobbse : http://fish.sekure.us for more info.
[08:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600
[08:43] <chennaituxian> achandra: got my msg ?
[08:44] <dooglus> Staz: you installed the source code for both irssi and glib?
[08:44] <Staz> I believe so
[08:44] <Staz> I am using irssi right now
[08:44] <Staz> and I am pretty sure I have glib
[08:44] <dooglus> Staz: you need the source packages as well
[08:45] <dooglus> Staz: you can run irssi using just the binary package
[08:45] <dooglus> Staz: see at the top of Makefile, there's "irssi_dir = $(HOME)/irssi-0.8.9" - you need to edit that to point to your irssi source dir.  same for glib
[08:45] <Staz> I edited the glib ones fine.
[08:46] <Staz> To get irssi I just used aptitude, is that a problem?
[08:46] <dooglus> Staz: you need to get the source as well
[08:46] <Staz> how can I find the source if I used aptitude to install it.
[08:46] <dooglus> Staz: apt-get source irssi
[08:46] <Staz> oh ok
[08:46] <chennaituxian> achandra: did you get what i sent in /  msg ?
[08:47] <Staz> do I need to compile the source?
[08:47] <Staz> will it affect the irssi I am using now? :)
[08:47] <achandra> chennaituxian: nope...try again..
[08:48] <dooglus> Staz: no
[08:48] <Staz> sweet
[08:48] <fdsd> Do you guys have a ppc channel?
[08:48] <Staz> source is just required for the fish compilation process?
[08:48] <dooglus> Staz: the errors you were getting were because it couldn't find the irssi header files
[08:48] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I disable stderr in the console?  Its spitting tons of junk at me while I am working
[08:49] <Staz> hey one other thing dooglus while apt-get is dloading source :) What program would you recommend for editing makefiles/
[08:49] <dooglus> fdsd: what kind of junk?
[08:49] <dooglus> Staz: GNU Emacs
[08:49] <Staz> thats Gui?
[08:49] <fdsd> dooglus, like I stuff from my firewire drive, and random stuff, I just need to turn off the messaging
[08:50] <dooglus> Staz: kind of
[08:50] <Staz> alrighty I have the source :) where on earth did it go
[08:50] <dooglus> fdsd: kernel messages then?
[08:50] <dooglus> fdsd: do they all have time stamps to millionths of a second?
[08:50] <fdsd> not sure
[08:51] <dooglus> fdsd: things like: "Jun  9 23:59:07 chrislap kernel: [4294738.882000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized"
[08:51] <dooglus> with that big number in square brackets?
[08:51] <Staz> Does irssi source have to be same as version Im using? I have a feeling its not
[08:52] <dooglus> Staz: it should be - you got them both from the same repository (source and binary)
[08:52] <dooglus> fdsd: is klogd running?
[08:52] <Staz> yeah
[08:52] <fdsd> dooglus, not sure
[08:52] <fdsd> dooglus, fixed it though
[08:53] <dooglus> running klogd fixed it?  or you fixed it some other way?
[08:53] <fdsd> echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/printk
[08:53] <fdsd> ugg I hate that!
[08:53] <fdsd> Does anyone know a small live cd that just boots to the command line, with no gui for ppc?
[08:53] <fdsd> I want to use it for dd and such
[08:54] <_cotroler> how do i install gnome in kubuntu pls?
[08:54] <fdsd> Or is there a way to boot the livecd and turn off gui and not launch X?
[08:54] <Staz> hey dooglus, where would my source have gone to?
[08:55] <Staz> so I can edit my path
[08:55] <dooglus> Staz: it goes to the current directory
[08:55] <Staz> heh got it :)
[08:55] <ElBrujo> i get this error in a ./confugure:
[08:55] <ElBrujo> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[08:55] <ElBrujo> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[08:55] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:55] <ElBrujo> i intal GCC
[08:56] <ElBrujo> and Make?
[08:56] <dooglus> ElBrujo: install build-essential
[08:56] <dooglus> Staz: install source for glib too
[08:56] <Staz> ok
[08:56] <dooglus> Staz: and update the makefile to point to it
[08:56] <Staz> alright
[08:57] <Staz> I think glib source is already installed/
[08:57] <Staz> because I was getting even more errors during make until I changed the path to glib dir
[08:57] <dooglus> Staz: I don't think that path you've used for glib dir is right...
[08:57] <ElBrujo> ok thanks
[08:58] <dooglus> Staz: did you "apt-get source glib"?
[08:58] <Staz> glib_dir = /usr/lib/glib-2.0
[08:58] <Staz> doing so now :)
[08:58] <dooglus> Staz: if not, I doubt you have the glib source
[08:58] <Staz> ok
[08:58] <dooglus> that /usr/lib dir is where the compiled libraries live, not the source
[08:58] <Staz> OH OK
[08:59] <Staz> unable to find package, I need to specify version no. ?
[08:59] <Staz> like glib-2.0 or something
[08:59] <achandra> is anyone aware of what /proc/interrupts is for.. if you change a the first number on a device....can it resolve irq conflicts?
[09:00] <Staz> libglib2.0-0  --> sound right?
[09:01] <Dapallo> hey, i just installed Audacity, but it cant find my sound card
[09:01] <Dapallo> any idea on what i need to do?
[09:02] <chennaituxian> achandra: sent u again
[09:02] <dooglus> Staz: sorry, yes, sounds good
[09:03] <Staz> no worries dooglus, and the free helper should never say sorry bro :)
[09:04] <lightstar> i knw
[09:04] <Dapallo> so, could anyone help?
[09:04] <lightstar> sorry
[09:04] <dooglus> Staz: free?  didn't you read the small print?  ;)
[09:05] <Staz> hahaha /part
[09:05] <Staz> I have chronically slow internet so libglib will be a while :)
[09:06] <dooglus> Staz: you'll have to extract the files from the archive after getting libglib source
[09:06] <Staz> ok
[09:07] <dooglus> Staz: the archive is glib2.0-2.11.4/upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4.tar.gz
[09:07] <dooglus> use 'tar xf' to extract it
[09:07] <Staz> I have a feeling the irssi source automatically extracted, sounds right?
[09:08] <dooglus> yes
[09:08] <dooglus> almost every package's source is already extracted.  I don't know why glib is different.
[09:08] <dooglus> maybe 'cos it's big, I don't know
[09:08] <Staz> ahh ok :)
[09:08] <Staz> Would you recommend creating a folder somewhere for all these source folders, I might need em in future?
[09:09] <Ademan> can we upgrade to gnome 3 now?
[09:09] <Staz> 100% :)
[09:10] <leboff> i'm using the find to execute a command (lets say renaming the file) and it will put the new file in my home folder (or whatever folder i'm running the command from) is there a way to get it to save right where it is?
[09:11] <dooglus> Staz: after extracting the tar file, run ./configure in the upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4/ dir
[09:11] <dooglus> leboff: yes
[09:11] <dooglus> leboff: what are you running exactly?
[09:12] <leboff> dooglus: its to convert a bunch of jpegs i have in folders to bitmap and resize them..
[09:12] <fdsd> Or is there a way to boot the livecd and turn off gui and not launch X?
[09:12] <dooglus> leboff: ok
[09:12] <leboff> dooglus: here is the command
[09:12] <fdsd> Does anyone know a small live cd that just boots to the command line, with no gui for ppc?
[09:12] <dooglus> leboff: let'ssee it :)
[09:12] <Staz> what should I do about ---> glib_inc
[09:12] <leboff> find /media/ipod -name folder.jpg -exec convert {} -resize 125x125 cover.bmp \;
[09:12] <userundefine> fdsd, gentoo
[09:12] <Staz> have to specify a path for that
[09:12] <leboff> dooglus: convert is from imagemagick
[09:13] <dooglus> leboff: that 'cover.bmp' is the output filename, right?
[09:13] <fdsd> userundefine, yeah I think gentoo is almost perfect except the livecds kinda suck when it comes to hardware support
[09:13] <leboff> dooglus: correct, and that keeps overwriting itself in my home folder
[09:14] <userundefine> fdsd, I've never used it on ppc so I can't advise there, I just know they have one.  shame though
[09:14] <dooglus> leboff: so do this instead: find /media/ipod -name folder.jpg -exec convert {} -resize 125x125 125.{} \;
[09:14] <leboff> wait what
[09:15] <erez> any one knows how can i burn DVD in dapper? gnome baker fails for some reason..
[09:15] <farous> erez: use k3b
[09:15] <Staz> cool, finished ./config
[09:15] <farous> much better
[09:15] <leboff> dooglus: see the thing is, when i had album art they are all as folder.jpg , in about 800 different folders i want to save them back where they are.. as cover.bmp
[09:15] <erez> farous: i'll try it..
[09:16] <sss> excuse me,how can i install a tar.gz package?
[09:16] <sss> anybody knows it?
[09:16] <farous> sss: tar.gz is not a package it is a source file most prob
[09:16] <Staz> tar -xjf <file> I think thats it
[09:17] <dooglus> leboff: ok, in that case, do this: find /media/ipod -name folder.jpg | while read x; do convert "$x" -resize 125x125 "$(dirname "$x")/cover.bmp"; done
[09:17] <Healot> sss: unpack
[09:17] <sss> ok ,how can i install it?
[09:17] <Healot> tar xvfz <tar.gz file>
[09:17] <leboff> hahah that looks scarier but i'll try it thanks dooglus
[09:17] <dooglus> leboff: try it on a small test directory first!
[09:17] <Healot> sss: depends, if it's already compiled, just run the main binary
[09:17] <leboff> dooglus: done is not included right
[09:18] <Healot> if it's a source you can compile/package them manually
[09:18] <dooglus> leboff: done closes the 'do'
[09:18] <dooglus> leboff: ie. it's needed
[09:18] <sss> how should i know if it already compiled or not?
[09:18] <leboff> dooglus: oohh ok good thing i asked
[09:18] <sss> healot
[09:18] <farous> sss: you could not find the package you need in the repos
[09:19] <Staz> hey dooglus : Is everything ready for make now?
[09:19] <ElBrujo> give me this error:
[09:19] <ElBrujo> checking for ieee1284_wait_status in -lieee1284... no
[09:19] <ElBrujo> Get the latest libieee1284 from http://cyberelk.net/tim/data/libieee1284/
[09:19] <ElBrujo> configure: error: FATAL: Failed to find required libieee1284 version (0.1.5 or n ewer).
[09:19] <sss> farous,what is repos?
[09:19] <ElBrujo> but i have libieee1284 installed
[09:19] <why> hi..
[09:19] <ElBrujo> ???
[09:19] <farous> sss: did you try synaptic the package manager
[09:20] <farous> ElBrujo: check if you have the rquired ver of libieee
[09:20] <leboff> dooglus: works in the test dir! here goes the real thing! thanks
[09:20] <sss> i dont think there is that software in sypnatic
[09:20] <KuLover> What would someone say the best driver for an ATI X850 XT would be?
[09:20] <sss> its a statistic software
[09:20] <volt^warlock> How do i list all users I have on my server?
[09:20] <sss> farous
[09:20] <dooglus> leboff: it'll even work for files/dirs with spaces in their names, unlike your -exec line
[09:21] <volt^warlock> How do i list all users I have on my server?
[09:21] <leboff> dooglus: ooh nice catch, thanks.. wouldve been stuck on that for hours :(
[09:21] <dooglus> volt^warlock: who
[09:21] <volt^warlock> cheerss
[09:21] <ElBrujo> farous yeap
[09:21] <farous> sss: which pckage is it
[09:21] <dooglus> leboff: that's what all the double quotes are for...
[09:21] <volt^warlock> dooglus, I mean by "listing all users" - I meant. To see who has an account on the server or not.
[09:21] <sss> farous ,the software named R,  often used to statistic
[09:22] <volt^warlock> ex, an adduser name account. You get the drill :P
[09:22] <dooglus> volt^warlock: all the accounts are listed in /etc/passwd
[09:22] <farous> sss: it is in the repos
[09:22] <volt^warlock> cheers
[09:22] <dooglus> volt^warlock: you can look in /home to see the home directories...
[09:22] <farous> sss:  i know it for i have it installed here and most prob you have the source package
[09:22] <volt^warlock> yeah, but some doesnt have one. Dont ask why anyways
[09:22] <volt^warlock> :p
[09:22] <farous> !repos > sss
[09:22] <dooglus> volt^warlock: "sudo user-admin" is a gui that shows you all the accounts
[09:22] <farous> !easysource > sss
[09:23] <volt^warlock> I have a weird user, called "proxy", and "klog",
[09:23] <Healot> volt^warlock: internal use, don't worry
[09:23] <farous> sss: look at ubotu private messages you need multiverse and universe enabled
[09:23] <volt^warlock> ok, "list/irc" ?
[09:23] <Healot> they have /bin/false >> locked users...
[09:23] <volt^warlock> ah
[09:23] <volt^warlock> but some has /bin/sh
[09:23] <Healot> for sysinternal etc...
[09:24] <volt^warlock> ah, ok :)
[09:24] <Healot> btw, if you haven't mess with the passwd file, you're safe
[09:24] <volt^warlock> I havent, I didnt touch a thing init.
[09:24] <Healot> great :)
[09:24] <Ademan> http://beatnik.infogami.com/Gimmie    looks very cool, it's not in the repositories yet is it?
[09:25] <wiking> hei! i have problem. please help. when i want to start root terminal it ask password but after that do nothing
[09:25] <sss> farous ,how can i use it?
[09:25] <sss> what is repos?
[09:25] <dooglus> volt^warlock: those 'weird users' come with the system
[09:25] <Ademan> repos = repository
[09:26] <eclair> wiking, you have root access?
[09:26] <dooglus> volt^warlock: generally, all users with uids<1000 are system users of some kind
[09:26] <ani_max> hi. i tried installing nvidia drivers but it gives an error saying. The installer has to be in root. anyone know hot to do this?
[09:26] <wiking> i think yes
[09:26] <farous> sss: they are ftp sites where compiled packages can be downloaded by the package manager
[09:26] <ani_max> *how
[09:26] <farous> sss: look at help.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <darkowl> hello
[09:26] <farous> !repos
[09:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:26] <volt^warlock> ah, ok dooglus. Thanks :)
[09:27] <dooglus> Staz: you OK now?
[09:27] <Staz> dooglus : now I get this ---> glibconfig.h not found! Please install glib and modify 'glib_dir' ...
[09:27] <Staz> what path am I supposed to give?
[09:27] <volt^warlock> guys, is there any more things i can do to boost ubuntu server 5.10 breezy up performance wise?
[09:27] <dooglus> Staz: me too.  I thought ./configure would make it for you.  lemme check
[09:27] <sss> farous ,u mean ,i can get a compiled R in repos?
[09:27] <wiking> eclair: yesterday i was install linux ubuntu to my computer
[09:27] <Ademan> farous: i never knew they were ftp... cool, i was actually wondering that a while back
[09:27] <volt^warlock> like uninstall stuff that aint being used +
[09:27] <farous> sss: exactly
[09:27] <volt^warlock> ? *
[09:27] <ani_max> hi. i tried installing nvidia drivers but it gives an error saying. The installer has to be in root. anyone know how to do this?
[09:28] <farous> Ademan: They are not necessarly only ftp http also but am trying to simplify it for sss
[09:28] <dooglus> Staz: I have glibconfig.h here: -rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 5312 Jun 27 09:12 /home/chris/src/libglib2.0-0/glib2.0-2.11.4/upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4/glibconfig.h
[09:28] <volt^warlock> guys, is there any more things i can do to boost ubuntu server 5.10 breezy up performance wise? Like uninstall hidden stuff that eats some cpu/ram power, or something fimiliar to that?
[09:28] <snoops> you gotta use sudo command apt-get ani_max
[09:28] <dooglus> Staz: so I used: glib_dir = $(HOME)/src/libglib2.0-0/glib2.0-2.11.4/upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4
[09:28] <farous> !find R
[09:28] <ubotu> Found: abiword, abiword-common, abiword-gnome, abiword-help, abiword-plugins (and 8244 others)
[09:28] <KenSentMe> !tell ani_max about sudo
[09:29] <Ademan> volt^warlock: uh, you could get rid of x and your gnome desktop and use the console :-)
[09:29] <Staz> ok I'll try that
[09:29] <dooglus> Staz: you probably want the same without the '/src/' at the beginning, depending on where you were when you did the 'apt-get source'
[09:29] <sss> farous ,i opened the tar.gz, theres a file named configure,is that mean  this R is compiled?
[09:29] <farous> sss: goto packages.ubuntu.com site you will find a list of ready to install packages
[09:29] <volt^warlock> Im using the console Ademan, im using ubuntu server 5.10, and what's x ?
[09:29] <dooglus> sss: that means it's not compiled
[09:29] <ani_max> thanks snoops, KenSentMe
[09:29] <eclair> wiking, is the password that you gave the root password?
[09:29] <KuLover> What would someone say the best driver for an ATI X850 XT would be?
[09:29] <Ademan> volt^warlock: x is the basis of everything "graphical"
[09:29] <sss> oh,thanku dooglus
[09:29] <Ademan> !tell volt^warlock about Xorg
[09:30] <Ademan> hopefully that's right
[09:30] <farous> sss: no that is a configuration file so you can compile it. and believe me you might need more packages for it to work
[09:30] <dooglus> sss: what are you trying to install?
[09:30] <Ademan> !tell Ademan about Xorg
[09:30] <volt^warlock> Ademan, but that shouldnt bother me, should it? Im using ubuntu server ?
[09:30] <farous> sss: easiest way less time is to install from repos
[09:30] <Ademan> i don't know what the ubuntu server installs
[09:30] <calebt> how can i install vmware on ubuntu 6.06 dapper?
[09:30] <sss> ok,i got it
[09:30] <dooglus> Staz: the end is in sight!  I got: "Compiling finished -->> /home/chris/src/fish/FiSH-irssi.v0.99-source/libfish.so"
[09:30] <sss> dooglus ,i wanna install an R
[09:31] <dooglus> sss: the stats package?
[09:31] <anfangs> im sorry, stupid question, but this is freenode isnt it?
[09:31] <Wodger> yes
[09:31] <ElBrujo> hey i have the same pakage instaled libieee1284
[09:31] <sss> dooglus
[09:31] <volt^warlock> yes anfangs, it is :)
[09:31] <sss> yas
[09:31] <ElBrujo> and not work
[09:31] <ElBrujo> say that i don have it
[09:31] <Staz> dooglus : that is sooooo good to hear~!
[09:31] <anfangs> ok :) srry.. trying out this console irc client, not completely familiar w/ it yet
[09:31] <volt^warlock> Ademan, any ideas? :D
[09:32] <dooglus> Staz: I didn't try running it, but I think irssi can load plugins without needing to be rebuilt
[09:32] <Staz> glib_dir = ~/Desktop/glib-2.10.3
[09:32] <dooglus> sss: "R" is a tricky thing to search for!
[09:32] <Staz> yet I still get that error :(
[09:32] <darkowl> hey guys how can I ke that privoxy and tor start at boot ?
[09:32] <volt^warlock> anfangs, under ubuntu server? :P
[09:32] <Staz> glibconfig.h not found, but it is definitely i there.
[09:32] <darkowl> hey guys how can I make that privoxy and tor start at boot ?
[09:32] <dooglus> Staz: you need to give a path all the way down to the directory where you ./configure'd
[09:33] <Staz> I did that
[09:33] <Staz> sorry I chopped that folder out and pasted on desktop
[09:33] <Staz> so it was a shorter path :)
[09:33] <erez> i can't burn DVD's with k3b either..
[09:33] <tijn> Q: there is unix time, is there something like unix date?
[09:33] <erez> it's says something about I/O error..
[09:33] <Staz> glib_inc = whatshouldgohere?
[09:33] <Ademan> volt^warlock: so you ONLY have a console?
[09:33] <volt^warlock> yeah
[09:34] <volt^warlock> text / black background = console i guess
[09:34] <dooglus> sss: there are binary packages of "R" here: http://www.stats.bris.ac.uk/R/bin/linux/debian/sarge/
[09:34] <Ademan> yeah, no mouse cursor no nothing?
[09:34] <volt^warlock> no
[09:34] <Ademan> just text input?
[09:34] <volt^warlock> just black background, and white text :P
[09:34] <volt^warlock> yeah
[09:34] <Ademan> hehe
[09:34] <Ademan> ok
[09:34] <wiking> eclair: yes, if i try write other password it say that is not right
[09:34] <volt^warlock> no icons etc.
[09:34] <darkowl> hey guys how can I make that privoxy and tor start at boot ?
[09:34] <Ademan> yeah you don't have X
[09:34] <Ademan> which is good
[09:34] <dooglus> sss: (they're built for debian sarge - I don't know how compatible with ubuntu that is)
[09:34] <volt^warlock> :)
[09:34] <Ademan> (for a server)
[09:34] <volt^warlock> but Ademan
[09:34] <volt^warlock> I was wondering, is there a way to remove things i dont need. Like the mail server etc?
[09:34] <hybrid> darkowl: you should be able to edit that in torrc iirc?
[09:35] <hybrid> darkowl: you should be able to edit that in torrc iirc.
[09:35] <volt^warlock> things that eats the ram usage / cpu usage by just 0.2, doesnt matter. want it removed :P
[09:35] <sss> i download one from the R offacial wehpage
[09:35] <sss> dooglus
[09:35] <farous> sss: here is the package name r-base and it is in the universe repos
[09:35] <darkowl> hybrid: torrc iirc ?
[09:35] <dooglus> Staz: what if you run "ls -l ~/Desktop/glib-2.10.3/glibconfig.h" in a terminal?
[09:35] <ani_max> KenSentMe: now another error came up. can you help?
[09:35] <hybrid> darkowl: the file .torrc if i recall correctly
[09:36] <Ademan> volt^warlock: well, unless you're doing something very proffessional with your server i'm pretty sure you'll be fine, i'm running my server off of a 4 year old computer with X and gnome installed (ie lots of extra proccesses), but if you MUST get rid of things, see if you can find out what proccesses are running
[09:36] <darkowl> hybrid: OK ill try to google on that...
[09:36] <ElBrujo> i the readme say that:
[09:36] <ElBrujo> Note that if you use the RPMs to install libieee1284, you'll need the -devel
[09:36] <ElBrujo> RPM too for the header file.  If you compile it from source, you may need to
[09:36] <ElBrujo> add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf.
[09:36] <volt^warlock> Yeah I can find out
[09:36] <dooglus> sss: you should install package "r-base" using synaptic.  that's far easier than using the packages from the official site.
[09:36] <hybrid> darkowl: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[09:36] <ElBrujo> what is the -devel?
[09:36] <volt^warlock> root 6768 0.0 0.0 1552 488 tty1 Ss+ Jun21 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[09:36] <volt^warlock> root 6770 0.0 0.0 1556 492 tty2 Ss+ Jun21 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[09:36] <volt^warlock> whats these ?
[09:36] <KenSentMe> ani_max: just ask your question here in the channel, maybe i or someone else can help
[09:36] <Staz> -rw-r--r-- 1 staz staz 5312 2006-06-27 19:15 /home/staz/Desktop/glib-2.10.3/glibconfig.h
[09:37] <Ademan> those are your consoles
[09:37] <volt^warlock> root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun21 0:00 [migration/0]
[09:37] <volt^warlock> root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN Jun21 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
[09:37] <volt^warlock> root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun21 0:00 [migration/1]
[09:37] <volt^warlock> ?
[09:37] <Ademan> you actually have more than one :-)
[09:37] <KenSentMe> !paste
[09:37] <volt^warlock> hmpfh, I do ?
[09:37] <dooglus> volt^warlock: that's the login prompt on virtual consoles 1 and 2
[09:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:37] <farous> volt^warlock: use the pastebin do not flood here
[09:37] <KenSentMe> !tell volt^warlock about paste
[09:37] <volt^warlock> yeah, sorry.
[09:37] <volt^warlock> yeyeye
[09:37] <ani_max> i ran the nvidia installer with the sudo command and got this error --> Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package
[09:37] <dooglus> volt^warlock: those [migration/0]  things are kernel related
[09:37] <ani_max>          'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that `ld`
[09:37] <ani_max>          is in your PATH.
[09:37] <volt^warlock> ok
[09:37] <sss> dooglus ,u mean ,i can find it in sypnatic?
[09:37] <Staz> you have no idea how jealous I am of you dooglus (having that .so file) :D
[09:37] <volt^warlock> well, you say I have more then one consoles
[09:37] <dooglus> sss: yes.  search for 'r-base'
[09:37] <volt^warlock> how do i look them up ?
[09:37] <dooglus> Staz: want me to upload it?
[09:37] <KenSentMe> ani_max: have you read the wiki page about installing nvidia?
[09:38] <Staz> would that work?
[09:38] <dooglus> Staz: I'm running edgy, but it might be worth a go
[09:38] <volt^warlock> Also, is this something to be 'trusting' on ? http://zkillz.mine.nu/sysinfo
[09:38] <farous> volt^warlock: you have 6 terminal consl by default and on the 7th you have your xserver that might open more
[09:38] <ani_max> KenSentMe, no. i installed Ubuntu yesterday so still figuring out everything on hit and trial
[09:38] <Staz> dooglus : That would be awesome thanks
[09:38] <KenSentMe> !tell ani_max about nvidia
[09:38] <calebt> how can i install vmware on ubuntu 6.06 dapper?
[09:38] <sss> ok ,i havnt tried it yet ,i thought there was no one
[09:38] <KenSentMe> ani_max: here's some info on installing nvidia drivers
[09:38] <dooglus> Staz: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/libfish.so - it might not work, 'cos edgy has a new libc version, but give it a go anyway.
[09:39] <ani_max> KenSentMe, thanks will kust check it out
[09:39] <ani_max> *just
[09:39] <volt^warlock> anyone is the "phpsysinfo" page anything to be trusting on?
[09:39] <postmodern> how do you open up LVM volumes of another Ubuntu system
[09:39] <Staz> any chance of upping your makefile their too?
[09:39] <volt^warlock> when i see psyhical memory go over 60% I get very worried.
[09:39] <postmodern> if lets say i have the hard drive hooked up to another running Ubuntu box
[09:39] <Ademan> lol volt^warlock those are your specs and you're worried? lol
[09:39] <Madpilot> volt^warlock, don't be - Linux will use whatever memory it can find, and swap as needed.
[09:39] <Kaja> It's supposed to go near 100%
[09:39] <dooglus> volt^warlock: I don't trust anything with a H sandwiched between two P's
[09:39] <Ademan> what are you doing with this server?
[09:40] <Ademan> dooglus: php owns you!
[09:40] <volt^warlock> hosting my gameservers / webserver
[09:40] <Kaja> volt^warlock, tt's just using the memory for cache and buffers so it won't be wasted.
[09:40] <Kaja> it's*
[09:40] <Kaja> it = Linux
[09:40] <volt^warlock> ok, so thats nothing to be trusting on when it comes to overloading the cpu or ram usage etc ?
[09:41] <volt^warlock> it's top I should look at, correct ?
[09:41] <Kaja> volt^warlock, right.
[09:41] <postmodern> hello i need to mount up LVM volumes from an old Ubuntu system and rescue some data off it
[09:41] <Staz> ./load libfish.so
[09:41] <Ademan> volt^warlock: what games? and are you planning on hosting all at once?
[09:41] <postmodern> how do i do this from another Linux install
[09:41] <Kaja> volt^warlock, try free -m for memory.
[09:41] <volt^warlock> Ademan, counter-strike 1.6 servers only.
[09:41] <volt^warlock> ok, gonna check Kaja
[09:41] <volt^warlock> Mem: 3804 713 3090 0 147 409
[09:41] <volt^warlock> -/+ buffers/cache: 157 3647
[09:41] <dooglus> sss: I mean you can find it in synaptic.  you need to enable the 'universe' repository first though.  see what ubotu says:
[09:41] <dooglus> !universe
[09:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:42] <dooglus> !info r-base
[09:42] <ubotu> r-base: GNU R statistical computing language and environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 20 kB, installed size 56 kB
[09:42] <Inzoy> hello, can someone tell me how ubuntu deals with raid controllers?
[09:42] <Kaja> volt^warlock, so you have like 3647 megs of free ram =O
[09:42] <volt^warlock> does that tell you something? ex if its using alot or not Kaja ?
[09:42] <postmodern> hello i need to mount up LVM volumes from an old Ubuntu system and rescue some data off it
[09:42] <jczekalski> --.--
[09:42] <Kaja> w00t
[09:42] <volt^warlock> yeah, it's my dual core 3.2 p4 server with 4gb ram, Im installing my second one (same server) tomorrow.
[09:42] <sss> dooglus ,ok
[09:43] <volt^warlock> So I was thinking of getting into 'cleaning' the linux from crap to improev the gameservers. but i guess that doesnt work eaither, as theres no "cleaner some crap" outta linux :P
[09:43] <Kaja> volt^warlock, nice total amout of ram you've got there.. and only ~200 megs used by programs atm.
[09:43] <volt^warlock> So this is good? I'm running 1 gameserver, php5 + mysql atm.
[09:43] <volt^warlock> brb getting my smokes
[09:43] <Ademan> volt^warlock: you're absolutely fine...
[09:43] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I diable X from coming up on startup?  I dont want X or gdm to startup
[09:43] <snoops> if you need to ask is that good then I'd worry
[09:43] <NorDoc> HELLO
[09:43] <fdsd> disable
[09:43] <sss> !universe
[09:44] <farous> postmodern: did you try hocking it up and just mounting the partitions. or is that just naieve of me to think
[09:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:44] <hybrid> fdsd: change the run level to 1 or 2
[09:44] <eobanb> welcome, NorDoc
[09:44] <Staz> Irssi: FiSH v0.99 - encryption module for irssi loaded! :D:D:D
[09:44] <dooglus> fdsd: uninstall gdm - or do you want to be able to run it?
[09:44] <NorDoc> hello eobanb
[09:44] <fdsd> dooglus, I want to run it
[09:44] <Staz> hey dooglus : thanks a million!
[09:44] <dooglus> hybrid: runlevel 2 runs gdm
[09:44] <NorDoc> i have a problem
[09:44] <volt^warlock> Ademan, ok. Does anyone know anything about boosting up my gameservers FPS ?
[09:44] <hybrid> dooglus: which run level is root and which one is normal user?
[09:44] <fdsd> hybrid, how do you change the runlevel in ubuntu?
[09:44] <dooglus> fdsd: sysv-rc-conf is a package which can edit the runlevels for you.  untick 'gdm' in level 2.
[09:44] <fdsd> dooglus, is that in /etc?
[09:44] <postmodern> farous, all the partitions are in some LVM partition
[09:44] <dooglus> hybrid: 2 in the default in ubuntu.
[09:45] <volt^warlock> boosting up gameservers fps* - sorry. I havent got any sleep for lots of hours now.
[09:45] <dooglus> fdsd: it's a package - install it.
[09:45] <postmodern> farous, and it's Ubuntu's default partition layout which i don't know
[09:45] <fdsd> dooglus, cant, i am modifing the livecd
[09:45] <farous> postmodern: or can you connect to it through an internet lan and ssh to them
[09:45] <hybrid> hmm ok thanks dooglus
[09:45] <volt^warlock> Kaja, Ademan. Any ideas of how to boost a gameservers fps up? like changing the HZ or something?
[09:45] <postmodern> farous, the Ubuntu install is foobar
[09:45] <dooglus> fdsd: in that case, you can just remove /etc/rc2.d/*gdm
[09:45] <volt^warlock> something fimiliar to that
[09:45] <postmodern> farous, i'm trying to rescue some data from /home
[09:45] <Kaja> volt^warlock, no idea, sorry.
[09:45] <farous> postmodern: ok now i understand
[09:46] <volt^warlock> :-( crap
[09:46] <fdsd> dooglus, but isnt there a file I can edit, so it will properly disable gdm?
[09:46] <postmodern> farous, yeah i'm new to using LVM
[09:46] <volt^warlock> Ademan, any clues ?
[09:46] <Ademan> volt^warlock: are you experiencing poor performance?...
[09:46] <farous> postmodern: have no experience there perhaps others can help
[09:46] <dooglus> fdsd: gdm runs when you boot because of the presence of /etc/rc2.d/*gdm ; if you remove that link, it won't run at boot, but will still be runnable by hand.
[09:46] <volt^warlock> yes Ademan, the server fps is on 300, should be on 1000.
[09:46] <fdsd> dooglus, good enough thanks:)
[09:46] <NorDoc> i use the desktop cd to install ubuntu
[09:47] <postmodern> any LVM experts in here?
[09:47] <dooglus> fdsd: you said earlier that you didn't want to disable gdm, because you want to be able to run it
[09:47] <ElBrujo> hey wait is the name of LPT1 in ubuntu Dapper?
[09:47] <NorDoc> and when i try to boot ubuntu it crashes
[09:47] <NorDoc> and often drops me on a "busybox" shell
[09:47] <dooglus> Staz: using my .so?
[09:47] <Ademan> your game server displays things?... i thought the game server just sits in the background
[09:47] <dooglus> Staz: or did you get yours to build?
[09:47] <ElBrujo> is for this:
[09:47] <ElBrujo> -p      Specify port to use (default: first useable).
[09:47] <ElBrujo>           port: port name (system-dependent).
[09:48] <ElBrujo> ???
[09:48] <ElBrujo> i need to know the port name
[09:48] <ElBrujo> ???
[09:48] <Staz> using your .so I dont think mine was ever going to produce a .so ;)
[09:48] <volt^warlock> Ademan, It does. I can check how much fps it runs at by typing 'stats' or rcon stats while in the gameserver, to see the how much fps the server runs at atm
[09:48] <dooglus> Staz: you weren't far off, I'm sure
[09:48] <NorDoc> i re-installed ubuntu like 5 times and still have the same results
[09:48] <dooglus> Staz: you asked earlier about glib_inc or something...  I don't see any setting for glib_inc - maybe I downloaded a different version of the code than you?
[09:49] <NorDoc> somebody help me please
[09:49] <Staz> must have done
[09:49] <Flannel> NorDoc: try using the alternative CD to install.  The live CD installer still has its quirks.
[09:49] <ElBrujo> please....
[09:49] <Ademan> the server shouldnt have fps though, fps is frames per second, implying frames, which implies display...   of course, it could just be an indicator of how tight the game loop is running, but then fps is a bad term... boo to valve...
[09:49] <ElBrujo> the name of paralel ports in ubuntu?
[09:49] <Ademan> anyways, 300 fps is by no means poor performance, what kind of performance do clients get when they connect to your server? as far as ping goes
[09:49] <Staz> dooglus : did you edit the makefile according to what rag3rac3r said on the fish forum?
[09:50] <NET||abuse> can anyone help get jedit working, when i run it i get a series of errors... GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!
[09:50] <NorDoc> my hard drives go through a gigaRAID controller
[09:50] <NorDoc> do i need drivers for that?
[09:50] <darkowl> NorDoc: use the alternative cd, i also couldn't install from live cd but with alternative cd it works
[09:50] <farous> NET||abuse: i just downloaded it from jedit site and it ran smoothely
[09:50] <csacsi> does anyone know how to install 'RealPlayer' when already sitting on desktop. I'm a newby of course.  What the book suggested, didn't work!
[09:50] <NorDoc> i can install from the livecd
[09:51] <volt^warlock> Ademan, the higher fps, the more stable the server is.
[09:51] <NET||abuse> farous, did you use deb to install?
[09:51] <Ademan> volt^warlock: the two are completely unrelated... in fact going too fast could result in instability
[09:51] <farous> NET||abuse: nope it was a jar file
[09:51] <Flannel> NorDoc: if youre going through a RAID, you shouldnt be using the liveCD, you should be using the Alternative CD to install
[09:51] <Ademan> but regardless i need to sleep
[09:51] <Ademan> its 1 and its my anniversary with my gf tomorow
[09:52] <volt^warlock> Ademan, ah. OK. Take care :)
[09:52] <NET||abuse> farous, ahh, i'm trying to use the method outlined on their site where i add sourceforge deb line to sources.list
[09:52] <volt^warlock> Yeah i know, but i want to boost the fps though, Ademan.
[09:52] <NorDoc> Flannel, i'll try that :)
[09:52] <NorDoc> does it ask me about controllers and stuff?
[09:52] <NET||abuse> farous, it installs fine, adds an icon to applications menu under -> Programming
[09:52] <farous> NET||abuse: just a side comment i prefer netbeans and eclipse to jedit. i know its a personal pref
[09:53] <hyphenated> NET||abuse: have you installed Sun java?
[09:53] <NET||abuse> i want the simplicity of jedit
[09:53] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, i was wondering what java run time i might need
[09:53] <NET||abuse> i have giij
[09:53] <NET||abuse> -i just gij
[09:53] <NorDoc> anyways
[09:54] <NET||abuse> and java-gcj-compat
[09:54] <farous> NET||abuse: hyphenated hve a point perhaps it is looking for java in the wrong place or just not the proper java. run it in a terminal and look at the error
[09:54] <NorDoc> i'll try using the alternative cd
[09:54] <Hobbsee> !apache
[09:54] <ubuntu> hi all ... should do an upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 or a clean install?
[09:54] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:54] <NET||abuse> farous, the error from terminal is that one i posted
[09:54] <NorDoc> and hope i don't end up here again :P
[09:54] <NET||abuse>  GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!
[09:54] <hyphenated> !java
[09:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:55] <dooglus> Staz: no, I didn't.  I skimmed through his posting, but don't remember any of it :)
[09:55] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, i' double check that.
[09:55] <chiccodoro_> hello all! I have realplayer installed. When I play a ram file, there is no sound to hear, but realplayer seems not to be aware of that. It worked recently, probably before I upgraded to ubuntu 6. what's missing?
[09:55] <hyphenated> triple check it ;-)
[09:55] <KenSentMe> How do i switch to window 11 in irssi?
[09:56] <dooglus> Staz: I just checked, and his posting is irrelevant to us - ubuntu does things differently from slack
[09:56] <dooglus> Staz: are you running ubuntu, by the way?
[09:56] <dooglus> KenSentMe: hit control-n lots of times:)
[09:57] <dooglus> KenSentMe: or control-p, whichever is the shorter distance
[09:57] <farous> KenSentMe: you have 11 windows on irssi ;)
[09:57] <KenSentMe> farous: cool eh
[09:57] <dooglus> farous: it's easily done - one per channel and one per private soon adds up
[09:57] <KenSentMe> farous: i'm in all channels on freenode
[09:57] <farous> KenSentMe: i have 3 and think the screen is crowded
[09:57] <dooglus> farous: especially since irssi will allow you to connect to multiple networks
[09:58] <eobanb> KenSentMe, all channels...???
[09:58] <KenSentMe> eobanb: joking
[09:58] <farous> dooglus: i was just think of screen space :)
[09:58] <KenSentMe> Is there a /join all command ? :p
[09:58] <an1_max> KenSentMe, can you suggest a winamp type playlist player for ubuntu?
[09:58] <dooglus> farous: irssi only shows one window at a time though, doesn't it?
[09:58] <KenSentMe> dooglus: it does
[09:59] <farous> dooglus: i have config it for 3 right now
[09:59] <farous> can do more
[09:59] <dooglus> KenSentMe: well, farous is saying about screen-clutter...
[09:59] <KenSentMe> an1_max: Rhytmbox maybe
[09:59] <sss> dooglus ,r u there
[09:59] <dooglus> does it highlight your name, farous, if I put it in the middle of a line?
[09:59] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, i'm gettin E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre,, i have both multiverse lines uncommented in sources.. but after i uncommented the deb-src line i started getting  "W: GPG error: ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports Release: Unknown error executing gpgv"
[09:59] <dooglus> farous: 'cos it doesn't for me
[09:59] <farous> dooglus: you can try never tried it
[09:59] <dooglus> sss: I R here
[10:00] <sss> dooglus ,i cant find r-base in gnome universe
[10:00] <hyphenated> NET||abuse: uh.. backports aren't part of the solution
[10:00] <KenSentMe> dooglus: for me neither, and i'm looking for an option to have that
[10:00] <dooglus> farous: I mean, sometimes people say my name in the middle of a line, and irssi doesn't highlight that window for me
[10:00] <farous> NET||abuse: add the multiverse not the backport multiverse
[10:00] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, oh, the comments for that line said multiverse..
[10:00] <dooglus> sss: not GNOME - universe is a ubuntu repository.
[10:00] <hyphenated> !repos
[10:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:00] <farous> dooglus: i know and you can try putting my name in a middle of line for me to know
[10:01] <dooglus> i did, farous, already.
[10:01] <sss> not in sypnatic?
[10:01] <dooglus> and I just did it again farous - did it work?
[10:01] <farous> dooglus: then i have the same prob :)
[10:01] <farous> dooglus: perhaps if we try another theme it will
[10:01] <_nano_> does anyone use network manager applet here?
[10:01] <_nano_> is there a way to bypass the gnome keyring prompt during startup?
[10:01] <^dE^> i have a question, i have DL ubuntu 6.06, and burned it on a cd, but now, it doesn`t want to boot from it, i have allready read the faq, on the page, but i havent downloadaded an .iso file. please help.
[10:02] <_nano_> ^dE^: did you checksum your CD?
[10:02] <^dE^> _nano_ what does that mean?
[10:02] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, farous, thanks both..
[10:02] <_nano_> ^dE^: meaning have you verified if the CD has been written properly?
[10:02] <NET||abuse> i'll see if this helps
[10:03] <farous> ^dE^: if you did not download an iso image what did you download ?
[10:03] <Slaryn> Hey there, I'm running a Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop and my PS/2 mouse will not work, only the touchpad.
[10:03] <Slaryn> Suggestions?
[10:03] <^dE^> i downloaded an .rar file
[10:03] <farous> ^dE^: extract the iso file from it then burn it
[10:03] <Madpilot> ^dE^, you sure, or are you on an XP system w/ WinRAR?
[10:03] <^dE^> farous, i ded :)
[10:03] <sss> dooglus ,i know ,u mean ,i have to modify my source?
[10:04] <^dE^> im on xp yes, i wanted to install vira VmWare
[10:04] <Madpilot> WinRAR sometimes plays very stupid games with files it really shouldn't be dealing with...
[10:04] <^dE^> via*
[10:04] <ttongfly_>
[10:04] <^dE^> i`ll try to extract one more time, ok? :)
[10:04] <csacsi> I have an 'Iomega Zip' drive, that I can't get working.  When installed on "Windows" I have to install the software for it from disk or the net.  What's the story with "Ubuntu"?
[10:04] <dooglus> sss: there's a way to do it using synaptic; or you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand (use "sudo" or you won't be able to edit the file)
[10:05] <dooglus> sss: I've not used synaptic for a long time, so I forget how it's done.  I expect ubotu's links tell you though.
[10:05] <dooglus> !repos
[10:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:06] <neutrinomass> csacsi: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29441 Have fun :)
[10:06] <Slaryn> Anybody on my mouse problem?
[10:06] <sss> dooglus ,ok ,thanku
[10:07] <^dE^> _nano_ this is the name of the .rar file -> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386
[10:07] <csacsi> thanks
[10:07] <scheuri> hi all
[10:07] <pvd> My Nvidia card doesnt seem to be loading properly.  Its an Nvidia card and I have Nvidia driver/module installed from apt-get, have glxgrears and im only getting 500fps about, I also checked to see if my xorg.conf had nvidia for driver and it does
[10:07] <dooglus> sss: got it now?
[10:07] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Out of curiosity, is this 6.06 ?
[10:07] <KenSentMe> dooglus: i think i have found an option to higlight my nick even when it's not at the beginning of a line. Could you test it with my nick for me?
[10:07] <hyphenated> ^dE^: rar file?
[10:07] <^dE^> yes
[10:07] <_nano_> ^dE^: you can checksum the file ..and compare it with the checksum provided in the ubuntu webpage
[10:07] <dooglus> no, KenSentMe, I won't.
[10:07] <NET||abuse> ok,, sun java installed, still getting same error "GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!\n Exception in thread "main" GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!\n *** Catastrophic failure while handling uncaught exception."
[10:07] <^dE^> ok :)
[10:07] <csacsi> No, it isn't.
[10:07] <_nano_> ^dE^: i mean the extracted file
[10:07] <KenSentMe> dooglus: :)
[10:07] <sss> dooglus ,im seeing it
[10:08] <^dE^> _nano_ i know :)))
[10:08] <dooglus> I've just been reading the source, KenSentMe , and it looks like there's no such option.
[10:08] <xukun> what was that command to upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[10:08] <judah> NET||abuse: sudo mv /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/java-old
[10:08] <hyphenated> ^dE^: it's not a RAR file, it's an ISO file. winrar is stupid, and you don't unpack it
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: is it working?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> dooglus: works, in irssi type /hilight dooglus
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: oh, cool
[10:08] <NET||abuse> judah, eh?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> sure is, dooglus
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: can you return the favour?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> sure is, dooglus
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: well, that didn't work :)
[10:08] <farous> KenSentMe: thanxs from here too :)
[10:08] <judah> NET||abuse: ubuntu ships with a java in your /usr/bin/ path
[10:08] <xukun> anybody?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> check farous
[10:09] <csacsi> I've tried to install 6.06, without success, so I deleted it
[10:09] <NET||abuse> judah, ok.. so what whould i do?
[10:09] <KenSentMe> check dooglus
[10:09] <farous> lol :( neither did here
[10:09] <wiking> my mic & speakers work, but cd player use other - old soundcard, how i can change it ( on device settings of CD player it don't give me thet soundcard)
[10:09] <NET||abuse> moving java doesn't help
[10:09] <dooglus> KenSentMe: you sure it's just "/hilight dooglus"?
[10:09] <farous> seems it is a theme thing
[10:09] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Ouch. Why wouldn't it install ?
[10:09] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell ^dE^ about burning
[10:09] <judah> NET||abuse: try ..  which java  .. to see what interpreter you're using.
[10:09] <Healot> use that "configure-alternative" thing
[10:09] <csacsi> I've no idea!
[10:09] <farous> NET||abuse: did you update-alternatives --config java
[10:09] <^dE^> omfg, you`re right
[10:09] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Well, what was the problem :P ?
[10:09] <KenSentMe> dooglus: type /help hilight
[10:09] <xukun> how can I upgrade to dapper
[10:09] <NET||abuse> judah, well we've just moved /usr/bin/java so which java doesn't find java
[10:09] <xukun> ?
[10:10] <KenSentMe> dooglus: do you see that?
[10:10] <^dE^> it was reasy an .iso file, but winrar wanted to extract it lool
[10:10] <csacsi> I was told, because it was a beta version?
[10:10] <^dE^> thnxy guys :))
[10:10] <scheuri> tell xukun about upgrade
[10:10] <scheuri> !tell xukun about upgrade
[10:10] <NET||abuse> farous, update-alternatives is a command on it's own?
[10:10] <dooglus> KenSentMe: aah, I'm an idiot :)
[10:10] <scheuri> uhm?
[10:10] <csacsi> I'm a bit afraid to re-run it!
[10:10] <KenSentMe> dooglus: those are your words
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Anybody on PPC ?
[10:10] <dooglus> KenSentMe: it was working...  I was expect the word 'dooglus' to be hilighted, not the word 'KenSentMe'...
[10:10] <farous> NET||abuse: yap. and /usr/bin/java is just a symb link to the java being used. you need to select which java to use
[10:10] <KenSentMe> does it work now, dooglus ?
[10:11] <wiking> my mic & speakers work, but cd player use other - old soundcard, how i can change it ( on device settings of CD player it don't give me thet soundcard)
[10:11] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Well now it has been released and many of the problems have been fixed - where did you get stuck ?
[10:11] <judah> NET||abuse: now make sure your path includes where you just installed sun's jre..
[10:11] <farous> NET||abuse: update-alternatives take care of those aliases
[10:11] <Lathiat> wiking: if you open the mixer and go file->change device
[10:11] <Lathiat> wiking: might find it there
[10:11] <dooglus> KenSentMe: I was playing a little on-line poker last night, and accidentally called one of the guys I was playing against an idiot, and would you believe he took offence and stormed off?
[10:11] <dooglus> KenSentMe: that's great.
[10:11] <Lathiat> wiking: unless you mean your cd player *plays* out the old cd card - and you dont want it to, i dont think you can do anythign about that
[10:11] <csacsi> Also, I can't get "RealPlayer' working, although it's sitting on my desktop.
[10:11] <dooglus> KenSentMe: there's a command to save that for future sessions isn't there?  /save config or some such?
[10:11] <KenSentMe> dooglus: lol, some people have a short temper
[10:11] <scheuri> !upgrade
[10:11] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:11] <scheuri> ah
[10:12] <judah> NET||abuse: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/java/jre/bin:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_04/bin .... and so on..
[10:12] <KenSentMe> dooglus: /save filename
[10:12] <neutrinomass> csacsi: RealPlayer isn't Open Source so that's probably a RealPlayer issue that the Ubuntu devs cannot help with - maybe the version that comes with 6.06 has been fixed :-/
[10:12] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Luckily, there are tons of native media players from which to choose
[10:12] <NET||abuse> farous, thanks update-alternatives worked :) had to assign it from gij java to sun java
[10:13] <csacsi> When I booted I got a message that I didn't understand.  It seems I was at the end of the booting process.
[10:13] <farous> !restrictedformats > csacsi
[10:13] <farous> NET||abuse: cool
[10:13] <NET||abuse> judah, the laternatives issue was it ;)
[10:13] <NET||abuse> judah, farous again thanks for your help :)
[10:13] <farous> csacsi: how did you install realplayer
[10:13] <dooglus> KenSentMe: or just "/save" to save to the default filename ~/.irssi/config
[10:13] <farous> :)
[10:13] <neutrinomass> Anybody on PPC that has 3 minutes of time to donate in confirming a bug ?
[10:13] <arun1> hello all.. i have run out of space in my ubuntu drive.. i have lots of space in my non ubuntu disks.. is there a safe way to reallocate space..
[10:13] <csacsi> It said;  it was specifically for Linux though!
[10:13] <screwston> how do u copy/paste files with Ubuntu
[10:13] <wiking> on mixer it is changed
[10:14] <screwston> how do u copy/paste files with Ubuntu's file browser?
[10:14] <farous> !cli
[10:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:14] <farous> ^  ^ screwston
[10:14] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Many companies say that about their programs, but they do not work that well after all :(
[10:14] <csacsi> The fact is that I couldn't at all!
[10:14] <dooglus> KenSentMe: I once tried writing a 'spell check' plugin for irssi, but couldn't find any way of getting access to the 'input text' at the bottom of the screen - any ideas?
[10:14] <neutrinomass> screwston: right click, copy, go to the directory you want to paste it, right click, paste
[10:14] <csacsi> What other players could I use then pls?
[10:14] <farous> dooglus: can not you just run-with-aspell irssi
[10:15] <scheuri> csacsi: totem, aviplayer, vlc...
[10:15] <neutrinomass> csacsi: I take it you did not like rhythmbox ?
[10:15] <KenSentMe> dooglus: no, never tried that. But i type in two different languages, dutch and english
[10:15] <farous> dooglus: i never tried it my self though
[10:15] <dooglus> farous: I never heard of run-with-aspell.  will look into it
[10:15] <arun1> ubotu: reallocate disk space
[10:15] <farous> dooglus: i used it with kopete before. when i was using kde
[10:15] <csacsi> I've already installed "Totem" but doesn't work!
[10:16] <scheuri> csacsi: what kind of file do you want to play?
[10:16] <farous> csacsi: where or how did you install realplayer?
[10:16] <dooglus> farous: run-with-aspell replaces ispell with aspell - but irssi uses neither, so it won't help, right?
[10:16] <Healot> !mp3
[10:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:16] <wiking> on mixer it give me 4 mixers, 1 of them work
[10:16] <farous> dooglus: hmm do not know
[10:16] <ani_max> HI. anyone know how to stop Ubuntu from checking all the fat32 partitions on boot everytime?
[10:16] <dooglus> farous: I think run-with-aspell only works for apps which already support spellchecking of some kind.  irssi doesn't.
[10:17] <wiking> on cd player options it give me jy=ust 1, wich do not work
[10:17] <csacsi> I have not tried 'rhytmbox'.  I'll give it a go.
[10:17] <farous> dooglus: ok thanx for the info :)
[10:17] <ani_max> csacsi: i setup mine from here --> http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_To_Get_Full_Multimedia_Support_in_Ubuntu
[10:17] <neutrinomass> csacsi: 'rhythmbox' (just pointing it out to save you from trouble)
[10:17] <screwston> i cant paste. i'm trying to copy my modified usb-storage in /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko, to /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/ to replace the original, but it won't let me paste.
[10:18] <csacsi> That's just it!  It sits on my desktop, but won't install, as far as I can tell.
[10:18] <ani_max> Hi.  anyone know how to stop Ubuntu from checking all the fat32 partitions on boot everytime?
[10:18] <spades> remove the entry from /etc/fstab?
[10:18] <ani_max> spades: at me?
[10:19] <spades> yes
[10:19] <csacsi> I've tried 'Windows Media Player";  not success!
[10:19] <dooglus> ani_max: it should recheck each time.  are you shutting down cleanly, not just pulling the plug?
[10:19] <dooglus> ani_max: it shouldn't recheck each time I meant to say!
[10:19] <screwston> its weird, i wonder why i cant replace that file
[10:19] <ani_max> dooglus, even with proper shutdown. i have about 7 partitions. and its very bugging
[10:19] <arun1> are there any apps. in ubuntu to resize partitions
[10:20] <dooglus> ani_max: if you umount a partition and mount it again, does that do a recheck too?
[10:20] <wiking> on mixer it give me 4 mixers, 1 of them work
[10:20] <farous> dooglus: strange i have the same prob though and thought it is a daemon that so that was wondering how to disable it too
[10:20] <wiking> on cd player options it give me jy=ust 1, wich do not work
[10:20] <ani_max> dooglus, i dont know how to. installed ubuntu yesterday :)
[10:21] <dooglus> ani_max: pick a partition you're not using, and in a terminal run "sudo umount /path/to/mount/point"
[10:21] <farous> dooglus: in my case they are not checked but they are ready to be mount. i think udev is the guilty part
[10:21] <arun1> ubotu: resize paritition
[10:21] <dooglus> farous: what do you mean, ready to be mount?
[10:21] <farous> dooglus: they appear under computer in nautilus
[10:21] <sss> dooglus ,i dont understand it ,i wanna know if i want to install universe software, whether i need to modify my source list?
[10:22] <farous> dooglus: though i specifically did not mount them and do not want them be mounted
[10:22] <peritus> how can i bind a command to a keyboard binding, like run command xxx when i push ctrl+alt+x
[10:22] <scheuri> sss: yes, you need to
[10:22] <ani_max> dooglus, umm.. what do i type. sudo umount /hdb6  ? or something else
[10:22] <dooglus> sss: the /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be modified, yes.  there are 2 ways to do this:  1) use synaptic   2) edit it yourself
[10:22] <seatouch> !Vmware
[10:22] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[10:22] <scheuri> sss: the line, which allows you to install universe software is available, but commented
[10:22] <KenSentMe> peritus: system->preferences->shortcuts or something (i'm on dutch ubuntu)
[10:22] <dooglus> ani_max: "sudo umount /dev/hdb6" should do it
[10:23] <ani_max> thanks
[10:23] <sss> scheurihow to modify it?
[10:23] <dooglus> farous: look in /etc/fstab for the partitions.  paste one of the lines here
[10:23] <farous> ani_max: check it also in the /etc/fstab file or it will be mounted automatically next time you boot
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, ok done. but it will still come next time right?
[10:27] <farous> dooglus: it is not in fstab but which line you need me to past
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: are you familiar with command line?
[10:27] <peritus> KenSentMe: well, i have like "keyboard shortcuts" (im on swedish), but thats only preconfigures
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: yes.  I was going to suggest you re-mount it now and see if it checks it again:  "sudo mount /dev/hdb6"
[10:27] <dooglus> farous: it's not in /etc/fstab, but it's known by nautilus?
[10:27] <sss> scheuri,soso ,just tell me ,id like to try :)
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, remounted. nothing happened
[10:27] <farous> dooglus: yap
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: hrm, ok
[10:27] <pc_butler> I want to buy a new PC looking at amd any suggestions?
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, as in it just remounted. thats it
[10:27] <farous> neither fstab nor mtab
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: you need to open the file called sources.list as superuser -> "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:27] <csacsi> last night I downloaded 'Mepis', burnt onto CD, but my PC won't start from the PC, although it does from the 'Ubuntu' disk.  Has anyone tried it?  It's supposed to be very user friendly and is based on 'Ubuntu' , they say.
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: tell me if you have opened it
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: try this, if you've got time:  do the "sudo umount /dev/hdb(whatever)" for each of the FAT partitions, then reboot
[10:27] <farous> scheuri: nano is more newbie friendly then vi
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: and watch to see if it still does the check when you boot
[10:27] <scheuri> farous: I know, but I dont know nano that well...:)
[10:27] <farous> :)
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: running "mount | grep -i fat" will list the fat partitions that are mounted
[10:27] <KenSentMe> peritus: ah, i see. One moment
[10:27] <screwston> Anyone know why i can't replace my original usb-storage.ko, with a modified one?
[10:27] <Slaryn> Synaptic won't detect that any update-manager newer than 3.x is available, and thus I can't upgrade to DD... :/
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, ok. will do
[10:27] <Slaryn> Re-installing update-manager now
[10:27] <darkowl> hey guys I have Ati radeon X800XT and I installed ati drivers now...do I now only need to reconfigure xoorg or do I need anything else ?
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: still here?
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: this will tell us whether the problem is that the partition aren't being unmounted when you shut down, or whether the boot process is checking them even though they're cleanly umounted
[10:27] <sss> yea,im here
[10:27] <sss> ok
[10:27] <snoops> if you're not using xgl or compiz you should be able to get away with just reconfiguring xorg.conf darkowl
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: check with that "mount | grep -i fat" command to make sure you've got them all before rebooting
[10:27] <peritus> KenSentMe: all right. thanks
[10:28] <ani_max> dooglus, alright. got the list
[10:28] <Slaryn> Nobody ever answers my questions :/
[10:28] <scheuri> sss: opened the file? good...now with your arrow keys...finde the line that has ONE # at the beginning and a "universe" and "multiverse" in te line
[10:28] <dooglus> Slaryn: did you ask a question?
[10:28] <Slaryn> Many XD
[10:28] <darkowl> snoops: xgl or compiz ?
[10:28] <scheuri> Slaryn: give us time, will ya?
[10:28] <dooglus> Slaryn: I saw you make a statement, but didn't know what you wanted
[10:28] <vinboy> how do I take picture using my webcam?
[10:29] <Slaryn> My first question was like 30+ minutes ago :/
[10:29] <Slaryn> AKA my mouse won't detect.
[10:29] <dooglus> Slaryn: it's OK to ask again, but maybe nobody knows about that.
[10:29] <ani_max> dooglus, done. going to restart. brb
[10:29] <farous> !fixres > Slaryn
[10:29] <peritus> KenSentMe: i think i found i GUIDE to it. have to change things i gconf...
[10:29] <dooglus> ani_max: that mount command shows nothing now?
[10:30] <darkowl> snoops: you here anymore ?
[10:30] <darkowl> hey guys I have Ati radeon X800XT and I installed ati drivers now...do I now only need to reconfigure xoorg or do I need anything else ?
[10:30] <scheuri> sss: have you found the line(s)?
[10:30] <Slaryn> o_O Screen resolution info...?
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[10:35] (farous/#ubuntu) Slaryn: sorry
[10:35] (KenSentMe/#ubuntu) Slaryn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:35] (farous/#ubuntu) its 4:35 here and have been marking an exam for 8 hours now
[10:35] (sss/#ubuntu) scheuri ,theres no #at any line
[10:35] <pc22>  whats with rpm packaging? any advantage of deb?
[10:36] (Locke/#ubuntu) no
[10:36] (scheuri/#ubuntu) sss: uuhmmm...well...there should...there are many comments in that file which start with a #
[10:36] <sss> scheuri,did u mean i have to go to the command line interface?
[10:37] <scheuri> sss: yes...CLI, then open the file with "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:37] <sss> oh,im in gnome
[10:37] <scheuri> sss: ah, sorry
[10:37] <Slaryn> Yes found the file, and backed it up, but I can't run that command unless I'm root... I can't seem to login as root though
[10:37] <sss> scheuri ,for wut
[10:37] <Slaryn> Username: root, password: same right?
[10:38] <ani_max> dooglus, it still the partitions
[10:38] <scheuri> sss: for not checking of you are on CLI or not...;)
[10:38] <farous> Slaryn: just type sudo infront of it
[10:38] <Slaryn> Ok.
[10:38] <farous> sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[10:38] <sss> :)
[10:38] <farous> ...
[10:38] <Slaryn> Got it, one moment
[10:38] <george_looney> query ubotu
[10:38] <Madpilot> Slaryn, no - there is no root pw by default in Ubuntu - have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:38] <sss> if im in command line now ,i cant talk to u with irc
[10:39] <snoops> I thought there was a password, but it was random Madpilot?
[10:39] <george_looney> Hello people
[10:39] <eclair> hey
[10:39] <scheuri> sss: ah wait...in gnome there is a possibility to open a small window with CLI
[10:39] <KenSentMe> george_looney: hi
[10:39] <scheuri> sss: gnome terminal
[10:39] <ctrlbreak> hi
[10:39] <KenSentMe> ctrlbreak: hi
[10:39] <Madpilot> snoops, yeah, but there's not difference between random & none, in practice. Anyway, there's not need for a root pw
[10:39] <sss> yea ,i know ,im in terminal
[10:39] <george_looney> is there anyone out here who is a Java hobbyist or learner and loves Ubuntu?
[10:40] <ajayc> ^richiefrich, hi
[10:40] <scheuri> sss: well then...just switch beetween chat and terminal...:)
[10:40] <^richiefrich> hi
[10:40] <Locke> george_looney, java people have the wrong mindset for lin ux
[10:40] <Locke> i think
[10:40] <ani_max> dooglus, you there? ubuntu still checked all the partitions
[10:40] <george_looney> Locke: Well, I know :)
[10:40] <sss> well ,scheuri ,ill show u what i saw
[10:40] <farous> ani_max: did you check that the paritions are not included in the /etc/fstab file
[10:41] <sss> just my source addresses
[10:41] <farous> ani_max: just comment the line that have them
[10:41] <george_looney> Locke: I've been on Linux for quiet sometime and I am learning Java for professional reasons
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu-cn/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> ~
[10:41] <sss> ~
[10:41] <Locke> oh
[10:41] <Locke> well it works as well as in any other system
[10:41] <ajayc> sss, please dont repear
[10:41] <ani_max> farous, completey new so you'll have to tell where it is?
[10:41] <sss> sorry
[10:41] <Madpilot> sss, next time use pastebin for that - thanks
[10:41] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > sss
[10:41] <KenSentMe> !tell sss about paste
[10:41] <sss> just show sth
[10:41] <varicello> Why command GCC does not function in mine ubuntu ?
[10:41] <farous> ani_max: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:41] <sss> sorry
[10:42] <Madpilot> varicello, have you installed build-essential?
[10:42] <neutrinomass> varicello: Have you installed 'gcc' ?
[10:42] <george_looney> Locke: I'm looking for someone who can tell me if the free-java-sdk package is compatible enough with the Sun JDK
[10:42] <Slaryn> farous, I ran through a bunch of reconfiguration screens, still no mouse detection.
[10:42] <farous> then look at the lines for the partition you do not want mounted and put # infront of it to comment it
[10:42] <scheuri> sss: for me it looks like you have everything enabled! are you using synaptic for updates?
[10:42] <Locke> i dunno but i installed the sun java sdk
[10:42] <Locke> !easyubuntu
[10:42] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:42] <sss> yea ,sure
[10:42] <farous> Slaryn: check supported hardware as last resort
[10:42] <sss> scheuri
[10:42] <farous> !hardware
[10:42] <ani_max> farous, i want those partitions. i just dont want the disk check everytime
[10:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:42] <sss> i use sypnatic
[10:42] <Madpilot> sss, hit the Reload button in Synaptic
[10:43] <farous> ani_max: ah ok
[10:43] <george_looney> hmmmmm.....don't want to "taint" my Ubuntu box with the Sun JDK! /grin/
[10:43] <scheuri> sss: well, open synpatic and tell it to update or fetch new information or whatever (using CLI myself)...:)
[10:43] <sss> madpilot ,wut?
[10:43] <scheuri> Madpilot: thanks
[10:43] <farous> ani_max: it is supposed to be every 30 mounts
[10:43] <varicello> neutrinomass, How I check?
[10:43] <ani_max> farous, wont i stop them from appearing if i comment them?
[10:43] <george_looney> anyway I will go to java and see
[10:43] <george_looney> thanks again Locke
[10:43] <ani_max> farous, thats the problem. it checks every single time! even with a proper shutdown
[10:43] <farous> ani_max: if you comment them they wil not be automatically mountd
[10:43] <Locke> np
[10:43] <george_looney> ....and everyone else
[10:43] <sss> scheuri ,what information?it's just update
[10:44] <varicello> Madpilot, it is not standard of ubuntu?
[10:44] <farous> ani_max: there might be a problem with them that is why they are checked
[10:44] <scheuri> sss: whenever you add a new repository with new software, your computer needs to update its databse about this information...otherwise the applications are not offered for installation
[10:44] <ani_max> farous, hmm.. i could do that and then run a script inside ubuntu to mount them. is it possible?
[10:44] <Madpilot> varicello, what? gcc? No, it's not installed by default - install "build-essential" to get all the compiling tools
[10:44] <xsilva> te
[10:45] <ani_max> farous, windows never said anything.. but then again thta was 'Microsoft'. hehe
[10:45] <scheuri> sss: update and upgrade are not the same...:)
[10:45] <farous> ani_max: yes but lets go to the prob itself. if they are the only ones being checked then the fsck found a prob in them
[10:46] <sss> scheuri ,these source addresses are always in the list file since i install the ubuntu
[10:46] <ani_max> farous, i already doubt that one of my drive is kinda shaky but the other one is perfectly new and sound. and ubuntu still checks all
[10:46] <scheuri> sss: hmmm...have these sources addresses a # in front of them in that list file?
[10:46] <chills> hey al i just installed ubuntu and well how do i set up a root password
[10:46] <sss> i didnt changed it right now
[10:46] <chills> i dont think it asked me
[10:46] <sss> no ,
[10:46] <eobanb> !tell chills about root
[10:46] <Madpilot> chills, you don't need one. Use sudo & your own user pw
[10:46] <eobanb> !tell chills about sudo
[10:47] <finalbeta> ** (totem:6125): WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session bus: No reply within specified time, I changed the audio device and changed it back, now I got no more sound. help.
[10:47] <scheuri> sss: hmmm...wait a sec
[10:47] <Madpilot> eobanb, the bot's 'sudo' & 'root' tells are identical
[10:47] <chills> ah i see .. :)
[10:47] <sss> ok
[10:47] <xsilva> e
[10:47] <chills> so its different from rest of the distros
[10:47] <farous> ani_max: not necessarily if you are sure they are ok. sorry i do not know which cron job control that
[10:47] <eobanb> Madpilot, oh, they are now? hey were different before
[10:47] <eobanb> they*
[10:47] <farous> ani_max: was trying to look it  up for you
[10:47] <Madpilot> chills, yes - no root pw, Ubuntu is all set up to use sudo instead
[10:47] <KenSentMe> chills: yes it is. But it's all in the wiki pages ubotu sent you
[10:48] <farous> ani_max: try dmesg for error messages or boot in a splash less mode to see what is happening
[10:48] <chills> right 1 more thing guys.. how do i set up a dial up account
[10:48] <scheuri> sss: open synaptic please
[10:48] <chills> kppp isnt working.,,
[10:48] <Madpilot> chills, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto - I don't use dailup, though
[10:48] <ani_max> farous, ubuntu auto goes in splashless mode and gives error of non-matching fat copies in 1 partition
[10:49] <sss> scheuri,always opend
[10:49] <ani_max> farous, and says it is Not auto fixing it and checks the rest then which are ok
[10:49] <varicello> Madpilot, Where I catch complete it?
[10:49] <george_looney> hello again
[10:49] <scheuri> sss: okay...there is a menu option that allows you to add sources
[10:49] <chills> Madpilot: thats all i got ;)
[10:49] <farous> ani_max: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file and take out the splash line at the end of the boot line
[10:49] <Madpilot> varicello, where you what?
[10:49] <sss> where?
[10:49] <george_looney> can I remove the linux-386 meta package?
[10:50] <farous> ani_max: am sure there is something you can hit while booting but do nto which disable the splash screen
[10:50] <scheuri> sss: uuhmm...my synaptic is german, so I need to guess...;)...what are you menu points on top? file? what else?
[10:50] <RyHoo> Hello everybody, I have a problem with SKYPE for ubuntu. I have some credits but I cant call landlines. Under windoze everything works fine...
[10:50] <NET||abuse> hahh.. see that, Xandros 4 reads AND writes ntfs??
[10:50] <chills> conexant wont work right .. ?
[10:50] <scheuri> I really should stop using german software
[10:51] <Hexidigital_> NET||abuse:: i'm pretty sure mandriva is ntfs writeable also
[10:51] <compengi> how can i find bittorent
[10:51] <Flannel> NET||abuse: write isnt too stable yet, and if it is, it'll be in edgy (I think its slated for addition in edgy anyway), it wouldve been released too late for Dapper.
[10:51] <compengi> i have it but can't find it
[10:51] <pc_butler> I want to buy a new PC looking at amd any suggestions?
[10:51] <NET||abuse> hmm, well paragon softwares ntfs for linux is the package which allows it.