[10:25] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, thankfully. This is a Debian-descended distro
[10:25] <Odo> EcoBlue, apt-cache search
[10:26] <kaboombob> odo beat me to it
[10:26] <BarbaraSalesch> hello. Is there a way to dl packages with there dependencies with Aptitude to a folder located in /home/ME/packages  ??
[10:26] <EcoBlue> Odo, thanks
[10:26] <azlon> does anybody here use skype?
[10:26] <kaboombob> ecoblue synaptic is a graphic way to search for it to
[10:26] <zackie> Does anybody have about 5-10mins to Some what walk a Noobert through extracting/installing .tar.gz file?
[10:26] <VvWolverinevV_> gaurish: holy shit that was easy! you should've seen what i was trying up until that
[10:26] <azlon> if so, how can i test my webcam?
[10:26] <zackie> azlon___I use Skype
[10:26] <EcoBlue> also I have to use .debs
[10:26] <EcoBlue> which means redownloading things :(
[10:27] <tot_to-drummond> I do azlon
[10:27] <sharingos> hi
[10:27] <lethias> I use debian etch, does ubuntu keep the desktop environments updated to the latest or does it do like debian and wait ever so often to update em.
[10:27] <azlon> zackie: how do you setup your webcam?
[10:27] <sharingos> I have installed gcc
[10:27] <sharingos> 3.3
[10:27] <sharingos> but it doesn't works
[10:27] <sharingos> do you know why?=
[10:27] <EcoBlue> not to mention ubuntu has a really nice default UI
[10:27] <Ciusbet> install
[10:27] <Ciusbet> bin-essentials
[10:27] <kn4rF> any suggestion to improve audio power? it's the half of windows' (and alsamixer is well-set)
[10:27] <Ciusbet> package
[10:27] <zackie> azlon___Doesyour OS Support i.e. through another Program?
[10:27] <gaurish> azlon, which version of skype are you using?
[10:27] <n2diy> EcoBlue: what is wrong with .debs?
[10:27] <tot_to-drummond> the beta version with webcam is kinda unstable.. I ve tried it  and did not work quite well
[10:27] <goodhabit> Hello. How can I ckeck my harddrive? Because some last days ubuntu waiting before executing applications, cpu empty, etc. and working takes many time. I think it is possible trouble with harddrive.
[10:28] <EcoBlue> n2diy, I've been taught that binary = aids and fail
[10:28] <azlon> zackie: i'm not sure, this is day 2 using ubuntu... is there something special i need to setup?
[10:28] <kaboombob> im out of here to make a music video in my newly working cinelarra
[10:28] <Madpilot> lethias, Ubuntu updates every six months, and usually tweaks the desktop/changes artwork/etc
[10:28] <Ciusbet> sharingos, bin-essentials is a package which contains all resources needed for g cc
[10:28] <kaboombob> good night all
[10:28] <Ciusbet> linux-headers...
[10:28] <BarbaraSalesch> lethias, i upgraded to lenny yesterday and a whole bunch of stuff changed since etch
[10:28] <sharingos> yes ok
[10:28] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, well, welcome to a sane distro, then ;)
[10:28] <sharingos> but is it possible to install this package
[10:28] <EcoBlue> but I cannot call my home insane
[10:28] <sharingos> an old version of it?
[10:28] <Ciusbet> sudo apt-get install bin-essentials
[10:28] <n2diy> EcoBlue: you where taught wrong. I can DL RPMS and convert them to .debs, no problem.
[10:28] <azlon> gaurish: i just downloaded the newest one from skype.com
[10:28] <Kalamansi> hello guys..is it okay to use a server with 38 users who shares the internet connection speed of 2.2mbps? where half of 38 is doing some updaloding a kilobytes files while half of 38 are doing surfing?
[10:28] <sharingos> because I have gcc 3.3
[10:29] <zackie> azlon___You might need to make sure you have the drivers for your Webcam installed... And make sure ubuntu knows you have a web cam;) This is day 1 for me on ubuntu :S some of these other fellows might be able to help you as well heh
[10:29] <sharingos> and I don't want a version of g++ newer
[10:29] <EcoBlue> Kalamansi, have fun
[10:29] <zackie> azlon___You might need to make sure you have the drivers for your Webcam installed... And make sure ubuntu knows you have a web cam;) This is day 1 for me on ubuntu :S some of these other fellows might be able to help you as well heh
[10:29] <gaurish> azlon, only the latest BETA version supports Video, the normal one just have voice support :)
[10:29] <lethias> Madpilot, the only reason i ask is that i was thinking to switching and trying it, my gnome desktop is still 2.14 and their out iwth 2.20
[10:29] <zackie> mt
[10:29] <Ciusbet> apt will search your gcc ver.
[10:29] <sharingos> ah ok
[10:29] <sharingos> thx
[10:29] <Ciusbet> np
[10:29] <zackie> Does anybody have about 5-10mins to Some what walk a Noobert through extracting/installing .tar.gz file?
[10:29] <azlon> gaurish: what version is that so i can search for it?
[10:29] <EcoBlue> sudo is the thing that kills me
[10:29] <sharingos> :[
[10:29] <Madpilot> lethias, current stable Ubuntu 7.10 has Gnome 2.20.1
[10:29] <EcoBlue> I honestly hate sudo and bypass it
[10:29] <Suva> sudo kill me
[10:29] <sharingos> :)
[10:29] <kn4rF> any suggestion to improve audio power? it's the less stronger of windows' (and alsamixer is well-set)
[10:29] <n2diy> ! ask | zackie
[10:29] <ubotu> zackie: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:30] <Kalamansi> EcoBLue: i already tried it and they complain.. slow internet.. hehe.. any other solutions do you have in your mind dude?
[10:30] <sharingos> I have done that you say me
[10:30] <gaurish> azlon, Spype 2.0 BETA
[10:30] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, sudo makes a heck of a lot of sense to me - why bother with two passwords, one of which you barely use?
[10:30] <sharingos> but it updates my gcc also
[10:30] <sharingos> :(/
[10:30] <Suva> kn4rF: Use active speakers
[10:30] <EcoBlue> Kalamansi, not have so many people on the network
[10:30] <gaurish> azlon, *Skype* 2.0 BETA
[10:30] <Jay-Oh-En> can somebody help me setup a static ip please ive been asking for help all day and nobody replies to anything
[10:30] <EcoBlue> Madpilot, sudo passwd is almost always the first command I run under ubuntu
[10:30] <zackie> !ask How do I install a .tar.gz file?
[10:31] <kn4rF> Suva, what is an active speaker?
[10:31] <lethias> So i'm guessing debian and ubuntu are the same, just ubuntu stays more up to day with all the latest versions.
[10:31] <Suva> kn4rF: Some soundcards also have switches for "headphones/speakers", those should appear on alsamixer
[10:31] <misslecommander> oh yes, hdparm got my HD speed back to where it should be
[10:31] <Madpilot> lethias, kind of, yeah
[10:31] <_bt> Madpilot, sudo passwd is almost always the first command I run under ubuntu > why?
[10:31] <Kalamansi> !ask
[10:31] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:31] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, if you speed it up what does it do
[10:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, debian | lethias
[10:31] <ubotu> lethias: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[10:31] <Kalamansi> !ask howto static ip
[10:31] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: static ip in ubuntu?
[10:31] <n2diy> ! zackie | tar
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zackie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <EcoBlue> _bt, I prefer to actually be logged in as root if I need to do something
[10:31] <EcoBlue> prefixing my commands with sudo is a waste
[10:32] <zackie> !tar
[10:32] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:32] <Madpilot> _bt, good question. seems like a waste of time to me, but if it's what EcoBlue wants to do, it's his Ubuntu to break...
[10:32] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: you need to edit a file for it to take effect, applications load twice as quick
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, in xubuntu but its the same thing
[10:32] <n2diy> ! tar | zackie
[10:32] <ubotu> zackie: please see above
[10:32] <_bt> sudo can be a lifesaver. its also more secure
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, tell me what i can do
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, or how to do this
[10:32] <_bt> EcoBlue: also, because you have a root password, it can then be bruteforced
[10:32] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: its dangerous if you dont know your HD specs
[10:32]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[10:32]  * gaurish says bye guys, i am tired now
[10:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, how are you suppose to know it?
[10:33] <EcoBlue> _bt, only time I used sudo for something other than sudo -i is when a linux running friend needed to log into root, he forgot his root pass (not ubuntu) so we used sudo in order to backdoor into root
[10:33] <aantn> how can I stop netowrk manager
[10:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i could get the specs
[10:33] <gaurish> Jay-Oh-En, try sudo fisk -l
[10:33] <aantn> *network
[10:33] <EcoBlue> _bt, can't your regular password be brute forced just as easily
[10:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En:  how new is your computer ? that would include HD age
[10:33] <zackie> Night
[10:33] <aantn> its hogging my cpu and killing it does nothing
[10:33] <_bt> EcoBlue: not if they dont know the username ;)
[10:33] <Madpilot> EcoBlue, "forgot his root pass" - exactly why I don't see the point in having one
[10:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, brand new
[10:33] <EcoBlue> Madpilot, he never runs his linux
[10:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i would think it has eide then
[10:33] <Suva> How can one forget the root pass
[10:34] <zackie> Okay when i select extract on the .tar.gz package brings up the folder which has what i want to install over the old version... how do i install it? there is no Source doc in there...
[10:34] <azlon> !dualhead
[10:34] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:34] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i can show you what to do, but i must remind you, it can make your system un-bootable
[10:34] <BoltClock> i installed the driver but ubuntu now wants to start in low graphics mode
[10:34] <EcoBlue> sudo -i is nice, but su is less typing
[10:34] <sharingos> o
[10:34] <sharingos> I have removed gcc vers 4 package and after I have installed the version 3 of gcc but it doesn't works then I have installed build -essential with apt-get but with this installation, my apt-get has updates gcc at version 4.0 also and I wanted do it... How could I do please?
[10:34] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, well what do i have to know first of all
[10:34] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: goto system>administration>network
[10:35] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: in your cmos, you have 32-bit transfers enabled ?
[10:35] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, i want to do it using the terminal
[10:35] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, how do i know
[10:35] <n2diy> Suva: One is used to Windows, and does everything without a password?|
[10:35] <paweusz> Hi! After todays upgrade of xorg my Eclipse stopped running. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. Does anyone has the same problem?
[10:35] <azlon> what is an rmp file? is that like an exe file?
[10:35] <EcoBlue> oh dear I'm tired
[10:36] <zackie> Okay when i select extract on the .tar.gz package brings up the folder which has what i want to install over the old version... how do i install it? there is no Source doc in there...
[10:36] <EcoBlue> and my body is telling me to sleep
[10:36] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i forget what is cmos?
[10:36] <EcoBlue> bois
[10:36] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: when you first power on your computer or do restart, it will tell you what button to press to enter cmos/bios
[10:36] <BoltClock> dgjones: i installed the driver but ubuntu now wants to start in low graphics mode, so i did, what should i do?
[10:36] <azlon> !rpm
[10:36] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:36] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: i am new to linux but i guess you use ifconfig for that
[10:36] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, ohh
[10:36] <jsemmanuel> try man ifconfig
[10:36] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: on mine its DEL key, some are F2, some are other buttons like ESC
[10:36] <Suva> n2diy: What you do on your private time is your own business :P
[10:36] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, ill just look it up on google
[10:36] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: sure
[10:37] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i know mine
[10:37] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i had to reset my cmos before lol
[10:37] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, after i get the info what do i do?
[10:37] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: if you are not familiar with what i am saying, i cant tell you. its so dangerous, may require re-install or worse, no boot of any OS
[10:38] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i smoke weed thats why i forget things but they are coming back to me
[10:38] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En:  read up on hdparm using the help button top bar
[10:38] <n2diy> Suva: Yep!
[10:38] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: just enabling it in services wont give u the performance
[10:38] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i rather you help me step by step
[10:39] <azlon> is there a huge advantage to using 7.10 over 7.04? anything a newb would notice?
[10:39] <hamid11771> hi all
[10:39] <EcoBlue> does anyone use PCGen
[10:39] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i dont think i can do that. it requires you to restart, and then you may never make it back
[10:39] <EcoBlue> azlon, the numbers are different
[10:39] <ArthurArchnix> azlon: I newb on a newer (say 2006+) machine will notice that it's tons and tons easier.
[10:39] <azlon> that is huge
[10:39] <hamid11771> can i use the defult theme of KDE4 (OXYGEN) in ubuntu gutsy ?
[10:39] <EcoBlue> bed I shall not sleep in you
[10:40] <EcoBlue> brb gettig energy
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, whatever trust me im not dumb i know alot about computers (i built this one) thats why i use linux i just forget things cause i smoke ganja
[10:40] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: best thing i can say, is search help files for hdparm, i wont be resposible for someone trashing an OS. its dangerous.
[10:40] <misslecommander> lol
[10:40] <jsemmanuel> jay-oh-en: whats ganja?
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, so will you help me
[10:40] <azlon> f' it, ill install 7.10, brb
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> jsemmanuel, marijane
[10:40] <krim> azlon: I think compiz first became default with 7.10, that's kind of big. And it just looks better and has newer software. I'd suggest you check out the changelog for 7.10 and you'll see if you think it's worth updating
[10:40] <BoltClock> could anyone help me? i just installed the driver for my graphics card (NVIDIA GeForce7100, onboard) for my new gutsy installation but it had a bit of a problem and now is running in low graphics mode
[10:40] <misslecommander> do you know how to join a channel ?
[10:40] <n2diy> misslecommander: I thought that was called house cleaning?
[10:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, yes
[10:41] <misslecommander> type /misslecom
[10:41] <Guillem> since I've upgraded some xorg packages today, compiz-fusion crashes xorg at the very start
[10:41] <BoltClock> any...body?
[10:41] <nikken> anyone? -> <nikken> does anyone know how to spawn a new child from wifi0 (master)?
[10:42] <n2diy> nikken: they might know that in #/bash?
[10:42] <Kalamansi> what is the implication of this reply "<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" ? thanks
[10:43] <n2diy> Kalamansi: your talking to  a robot?
[10:43] <Odo> !op
[10:43] <Simulator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/
[10:43] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[10:43] <Kalamansi> n2diy : thats the implication?
[10:43] <Madpilot> Odo, ?
[10:43] <BoltClock> could anyone help me? i just installed the driver for my graphics card (NVIDIA GeForce7100, onboard) for my new gutsy installation but it had a bit of a problem and now is running in low graphics mode
[10:43] <Simulator> hello i have problem when i login to desktop
[10:43] <n2diy> Kalamansi: here, yes it is.
[10:44] <Simulator> this log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/
[10:44] <Odo> Madpilot, sorry bad window , i'm sorry
[10:44] <Mez> Odo, ?
[10:44] <n2diy> ! bot
[10:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:44] <Kalamansi> n2diy - oh my g... *blushes*
[10:44] <Madpilot> Odo, ah, OK. no harm done
[10:44] <Odo> Madpilot, i'm really sorry :(
[10:45] <n2diy> Kalamansi:  :) welcome aboard.
[10:45] <BoltClock> anyone?
[10:46] <Guillem> sorry. My fault. I installed nvidia drivers manually. reinstalling has solved my issues
[10:48] <Simulator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/   hello anybody can help me i cant login to gnome dekstop
[10:48] <Simulator> Jan 18 18:16:13 linux gdmgreeter[5715]: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
[10:48] <Simulator> Jan 18 18:16:13 linux gdmgreeter[5715]: GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
[10:49] <KenSentMe> Evolution moves my mail into the trash if i want to move it to another imap-folder. And i can't get it back to Inbox for example. How can i save my mail?
[10:49] <fluidite> llo
[10:49] <BoltClock> i installed a graphics driver but now ubuntu has to start in low graphics mode so here i am, what should i do to correct the problem? NVIDIA GeForce7100 onboard graphics card
[10:51] <misslecommander> BoltClock: i believe > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:53] <kbrooks> umm
[10:53] <goodhabit> Hello. How can I ckeck my harddrive? Because some last days ubuntu waiting before executing applications, cpu empty, etc. and working takes many time. I think it is possible trouble with harddrive.
[10:53] <ushimitsudoki> Can the gnome-games such as Iagno be played over the LAN? If so, how?
[10:54] <rasputnik> ushimitsudoki, you mean multiplayer, or remote desktop?
[10:54] <kbrooks> goodhabit, well, unlikely to be
[10:54] <ushimitsudoki> rasputnik: I mean multiplayer, where I have 2+ boxes on the LAN and we want to play against each other
[10:55] <goodhabit> kbrooks, sorry?
[10:55] <Simulator> hello http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52393/
[10:55] <kbrooks> goodhabit, ubuntu may be running slow. the chance that this is a HD problem is almost nil
[10:56] <pyrotix> graargh. does anyone know how to move a bunch of cells in oo.org calc to a table in writer? Aid an HS student pulling an all-nighter trying (possibly vainly) to finish an assignment in time
[10:56] <markuman> i'm on a up to date ubuntu 7.10 server. if i want to restart lighttpd it don't work. it seems that the lighttpd don't stop and is still listen on port 80. so restart don't work. http://pastebin.com/m449cde27
[10:56] <pyrotix> when I copy or paste, its in its own object
[10:56] <pyrotix> which is impossible to manipulate
[10:56] <goodhabit> kbingham_, I am using ubuntu long time. but it is really slower than normal state.
[10:56] <goodhabit> Not slow actually, but waiting before executing.
[10:56] <MuNzE> some have problem with azureus after update xorg today????
[10:57] <kbrooks> goodhabit, well, for some reassurance to you, i guess you can check for ata errors. pastebin the file that is created by this command:
[10:57] <kbrooks> goodhabit, dmesg | grep -i driveready
[10:58] <kbrooks> goodhabit, er ... hold on
[10:58] <kbrooks> goodhabit, dmesg | grep -i driveready > output
[10:58] <carlesoriol> How can I do a renice using the process name?
[10:58] <Carb0n> hi, anyone find any problems with flashplugin-nonfree
[10:58] <Carb0n> I'm getting an md5sum mismatch
[10:58] <kbrooks> goodhabit, open a terminal, and type that command
[10:58] <Carb0n> even after downloading the tar.gz locally
[10:58] <goodhabit> kbrooks, $ sudo dmesg | grep -i driveready > output    shows nothing.
[10:59] <kbrooks> goodhabit, it outputs nothing, its supposed to
[10:59] <kbrooks> goodhabit, then open up the file named "output" with a text editor
[10:59] <kbrooks> goodhabit, go to
[10:59] <kbrooks> !paste > goodhabit
[10:59] <goodhabit> kbrooks, waitwait :)
[10:59] <Guillem> pyrotix,  what about special-paste?
[10:59] <goodhabit> I know paste, i know dmesg, I know grep.
[11:00] <goodhabit> But it is empty.
[11:00] <bauer_> how do i get a counter-strike server on ubuntu ?
[11:00] <moidekar> Hi, I'm trying to get Ubuntu 7.04 to make a GPRS connection. I've gotten the phone plugged in (a Motorola Razr V3i) and it's detected as ttyACM0, and wvdialconf finds it. However, I don't know what special number to dial to activate the GPRS connection. Can anyone help, please?
[11:00] <Carb0n> anybody with a similar problems with flashplugin-nonfree?
[11:00] <Carb0n> !flashplugin
[11:00] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:00] <kbrooks> goodhabit, wc -l output - does it say 0?
[11:00] <Guillem> pyrotix, or also, selecting the cells and pasting via mouse-middle-button
[11:00] <erUSUL> moidekar: you will have to ask your isp (movile company) me thinks
[11:00] <goodhabit> kbrooks, yes.
[11:01] <kbrooks> goodhabit, all right, no HD problems then
[11:01] <goodhabit> kbrooks, are you shure about grep -i driveready ?
[11:01] <angelillo> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7200  @ 2.00GH Speed: 2057.343 MHz Cache: 4096 KB ] | RAM Usage: 19/29M [|||||||||||] ( 65.5% ) | [ HD Model: Virtual HDD [0] Size: 5G with 2G Free ( 40.0% ) ] | Number of process: 52
[11:01] <moidekar> erUSUL: There's no standard no. like #777 for CDMA? I tried googling, but came up with not much
[11:01] <goodhabit> I have never seen driveready word there.
[11:01] <moDumass> man NAS200 is a slow assed devise
[11:01] <BarbaraSalesch> is there a way using the command $ sudo aptitude download mplayer-nogui     to dowload the dependencies also ?
[11:01] <BoltClock> missilecommander: um, i cant edit xorg.conf
[11:01] <goodhabit> BarbaraSalesch, $ sudo aptitude install -d mplayer-nogui
[11:02] <kbrooks> goodhabit, linux logs a error message with one of the lines having "driveready" (cased properly, obviously)
[11:02] <kbrooks> goodhabit, when it cant access the hard drive
[11:02] <goodhabit> I see, thanks.
[11:03] <kbrooks> goodhabit, due to sector problems
[11:03] <pyrotix> Guillem: no go, although #kubuntu has made me aware that kate/kword can convert it to plaintext which is better
[11:03] <kbrooks> goodhabit, also, you can use
[11:03] <goodhabit> But maybe there are some tool to check my harddrive?
[11:03] <kbrooks> !info smartmontools > goodhabit
[11:03] <goodhabit> thanks again.
[11:03] <kbrooks> goodhabit, to catch problems before they happen
[11:03] <DarthSOup> woah
[11:04] <n2diy> ! bash
[11:04] <Guillem> pyrotix, paste-special -> "rtf text" (or unforrmatted text)
[11:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:04] <Guillem> pyrotix, after copying in calc
[11:04] <moidekar> anyway, thanks, erUSUL - will check their site and try to avoid a call to the darn helpdesk.
[11:04] <BarbaraSalesch> does  sudo aptitude install -d mplayer-nogui  install the package to my system ?
[11:05] <majikins> hi has anyone setup a software raid1 system that works?
[11:05] <erUSUL> moidekar: the truth is that i dunno exactly becouse never used my mobile to connect to internet but i expect it to work as a dial up modem...
[11:05] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, yes
[11:06] <pyrotix> Guillem: right click gave no special paste, but w/e no matter now
[11:06] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks,  i just want to download a package with all depends to a file on /home  without install
[11:07] <Guillem> pyrotix, special paste is at edit menu
[11:07] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks, aptitude download package   only dls the package it self without depends.  do you know a way ?
[11:07] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, i was wrong, no to your "iinstalll" question, that command you gave will do that
[11:07] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, but ,...
[11:08] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks,  i'll just give it a try ;)
[11:08] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, you'll have a slightly hard time finding the packages without doing something like
[11:08] <zhanx> anyone here know if there is a channel for advanced soldering tips?
[11:09] <alpaco> join /#perlhelp
[11:09] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, cd /var/cache/apt; sudo mv archives archives2 && sudo mkdir archives
[11:09] <majikins> anyone know of a channel I can go to for raid1 advice?
[11:09] <misslecommander> do "/list" to list the channels, then use search
[11:09] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, then run that, and then run
[11:09] <zhanx> misslecommander, didn't find anything
[11:10] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, sudo mv archives2 archives
[11:10] <zhanx> misslecommander, hoping someone knew off hand
[11:10] <misslecommander> zhanx: what you soldering ?
[11:10] <misslecommander> zhanx: please dont say mod-chips :)
[11:10] <BarbaraSalesch> in /var/cache/archives   are the packages already set with depends or are they also scattered around there ?
[11:10] <zhanx> surface mount pcm, for a usb to serial for my laptop
[11:10] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, thats why i gave you the tip
[11:10] <zhanx> misslecommander, never a mod chip
[11:11] <misslecommander> lol
[11:11] <BarbaraSalesch> kbrooks,  was that a yes to ^^
[11:11] <Javid> If I were about to do a distro upgrade from FF to GG, how would I keep a specific (non-critical) package from being upgraded?
[11:11] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, there are more packages than the deps + pkg there that you want to d/l
[11:11] <rsferreir1> Gusty LiveCD runs fine, but Ubuntu won't work after install unless ACPI=off. What may be causing this (using a Vaio laptop)
[11:11] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, a better hint than mine:
[11:11] <misslecommander> searcg google with "soldering IRC"
[11:11] <zhanx> misslecommander, i am out of country so i dont have access to my tool kit at the house.. got a cold heat soldering gun, sucks for that tho
[11:12] <VSpike> I need to process a file in a script and do multiple search and replace operations.  What is the best way to do that?  Anyone know how to get XGL working in Hardy?
[11:12] <astronaute> can anyone tell me where to configure stdout and stderr logs on ubuntu 7.10 / tomcat 5.5 please ?
[11:13] <kbrooks> BarbaraSalesch, sudo aptitude autoclean && sudo aptitude clean
[11:13] <misslecommander> punzada: not bad upstream
[11:13] <Ziroday> erudified: wrong channel
[11:13] <punzada> and btw
[11:13] <punzada> that's with ~25 game servers running on the box
[11:13] <erudified> Ziroday, what's the right channel?
[11:13] <punzada> lol
[11:13] <Karotte> hi
[11:13] <rsferreir1> Gusty LiveCD runs fine, but Ubuntu won't work after install unless ACPI=off. What may be causing this (using a Vaio Laptop)?
[11:13] <Ziroday> erudified: ubuntu+1
[11:13] <misslecommander> edu ?
[11:13] <magick> I have a blinking cursor while trying to install ubuntu from the CD. I have an IP35 chipset with an NVIDIA 8600GT video card. What could be the problem here? md5 checked out but trying to check for defects also leads to a blinking cursor.
[11:13] <Karotte> I'm searching a good hex editor for gnome (ghex is buggy), any idea what I should use?
[11:14] <wosquito> ÎÁÛÅÌ ;)
[11:14] <punzada> naw
[11:14] <misslecommander> they usually have bombs for pipes
[11:14] <punzada> work for a hosting company
[11:14] <punzada> lol
[11:14] <Shadow98> I need some major help I cannot ubuntu to load what information do you need to help me please
[11:14] <Ziroday> !best | Karotte
[11:14] <misslecommander> even better
[11:14] <zhanx> VSpike, sorry, my girl distracted me.. need a how to on soldering surface mounts (replacing) with a cold heat or something cheap
[11:14] <ubotu> Karotte: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[11:14] <Karotte> hrm
[11:14] <zhanx> VSpike, or a channel
[11:14] <BarbaraSalesch> ok
[11:14] <misslecommander> i can down that but not up it
[11:14] <Ziroday> Shadow98: we need more information
[11:14] <wosquito> ÎÏ ÎÅ ÐÁÛÅÔ ;(
[11:15] <OshaMaHUe> hi my ubuntu crashed and i couldnt install again because of errno 5. now i need to rip another ubuntu. but i cannot open my xp. is there anyway to open my xp
[11:15] <zhanx> OshaMaHUe, live cd reinstall grub
[11:16] <OshaMaHUe> how do i do that
[11:16] <Shadow98> ok I know the cd and memory is ok tested both I get just past the orange bar and get a couple of things that say [ok] this flashes a couple times and then nothing more happens
[11:16] <zhanx> OshaMaHUe, > !grub
[11:16] <Shadow98> I have waited about 10 mins to see if it will load
[11:16] <zhanx> OshaMaHUe, | !grub
[11:16] <OshaMaHUe> !gurb
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gurb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <zhanx> !grub
[11:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:17] <Ziroday> Shadow98: when it boots up (the orange bar) press f1 to get detailed messages, record what is happening and come back to use with the specific error message, also try acpi=off and noapic at boot prompt
[11:17] <OshaMaHUe> thanks
[11:17] <zhanx> yep
[11:17] <Ziroday> Shadow98: sorry thats alt+f1
[11:17] <Shadow98> ok thank you will give it a try
[11:19] <shredder> hi anyone more than me has problems with the latest x.org update?
[11:19] <rsferreir1> Gusty LiveCD runs fine, but Ubuntu won't work after install unless ACPI=off. What may be causing this (using a Vaio laptop)?
[11:19] <shredder> eclipse just won't start anymore
[11:20] <petepete> shredder, my eclipse is working fine, although I haven't restarted my PC since update
[11:20] <petepete> shredder, maybe check your java settings?
[11:20] <labanux> anyone has already sucess installing KDE 4.0 in gutsy?
[11:20] <shredder> nope java has been working fine. I see the same in ubuntuforums right now actually.
[11:21] <labanux> i've follow the instruction, but it always did'nt work
[11:21] <tehrafff> hi all, i got a problem  with gusty. im on dualboot with xp and when i start the computer only windows is launching, so i have changed my grub menu.lst but i cant save it i havent got the permission
[11:21] <ePax> How can i change kernel from 686 to 386? I have problems with installing some apps... like video lan and xchat...
[11:21] <ikonia> ePax: that shouldn't cause issues
[11:21] <ikonia> ePax: what version of ubuntu are you running
[11:21] <petepete> shredder, could you give me the link to the thread in forums.... just incase mine dies after restart!
[11:21] <tehrafff> 5sorry for my bad english im french
[11:21] <shredder> petepete: don't restart :)
[11:22] <shredder> johj http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671067&highlight=eclipse
[11:22] <coal> Hi, is there anyone that kan tell me how to finde out where a process was starteded from?
[11:22] <shredder> ah petepete: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671067&highlight=eclipse
[11:22] <labanux> i always get this error message (Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy Release.gpg) when i'm try'n to apt-get update to KDE 4.0 repo
[11:22] <simion314> hi, i have a new sound card and it has a driver for linux and installation instructions, but ubuntu already installed a driver and i do not know if i must remove the old one first
[11:22] <shredder> no solution yet though.
[11:22] <Shirowtaku> i have an problem with spicebird. can someone help me?
[11:22] <ikonia> labanux: you need to add the repo's gpg key
[11:22] <ikonia> Shirowtaku: spicebird ?
[11:22] <^NighT^WalkeR^> can anyone tell me how i can edit the grub loader?
[11:23] <shredder> petepete: this has some more info:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020&highlight=eclipse
[11:23] <Shirowtaku> yes
[11:23] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: sure the config file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:23] <labanux> ikonia : could you tell me how to add the repo's gpg key?
[11:23] <Shirowtaku> http://www.spicebird.com/
[11:23] <malawar> where's the k7 kernel? :(
[11:23]  * malawar just installed ubuntu
[11:23] <petepete> shredder, thats very bad news... i NEED eclipse... looks like im suspending for the next few days ;)
[11:23] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia but i can't save when i have editet
[11:23] <ikonia> malawar: all kernels are now "generic" rather than arch specific
[11:23] <tehrafff> hi all, i got a problem  with gusty. im on dualboot with xp and when i start the computer only windows is launching, so i have changed my grub menu.lst but i cant save it i havent got the permission. i use the live cd to acess to my linux partition
[11:23] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: use sudo before the editor command
[11:23] <ikonia> tehrafff: use sudo before the editor command also
[11:24] <labanux> anyone know where's the working server for KDE 4.0 repo?
[11:24] <ikonia> !sudo > tehrafff
[11:24] <tehrafff> okay thanks
[11:24] <erawfish> !kde4
[11:24] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:24] <white_eagle> oh, irssi is great!
[11:24] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia like this sudo gedit menu.lst ?
[11:24] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: thats the idea
[11:24] <Seveas> ikonia, ^NighT^WalkeR^: no
[11:24] <Seveas> gksudo gedit ...
[11:24] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: if usina a graphical app use gksudo
[11:24] <simion314> hi, i have a new sound card and it has a driver for linux and installation instructions, but ubuntu already installed a driver and i do not know if i must remove the old one first,?
[11:24] <shredder> petepete: in the last thread theres an instruction how to downgrade the x update until it's fixed. I will test this now.
[11:24] <Seveas> or sudo -H gedit
[11:24] <ikonia> Seveas: hang on - give me a minute to respond ;)
[11:25] <Seveas> ikonia, k ;)
[11:25] <white_eagle> simion314: does the sound work?
[11:25] <Seveas> I was surprised about you saying something not-too-smart :)
[11:25] <^NighT^WalkeR^> seveas ikonia thanx bot of you
[11:25] <ikonia> Seveas: thats the "idea" - more detail was following
[11:25] <simion314> white_eagle:it works for a while and then the ubuntu hangs, it breake, and i must restart
[11:26] <coal> Simple Linux question: Could anyone tell me how finde out where a process was starteded from?
[11:26] <ikonia> coal: as in the directory or what started it
[11:26] <coal> yes and maby who
[11:27] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia i can't get into the directory with terminal
[11:27] <ikonia> coal: which one ? I asked one of two and you responded with "yes"
[11:27] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: explain ?
[11:27] <coal> ikonia: both
[11:27] <moad> where do i change the settings in firefox ?
[11:27] <ikonia> coal: well what started something is quite hard unless you want to trace parent/children pid relation shipse
[11:27] <amores> buenas algun español
[11:27] <ikonia> coal: most things are started by init scripts
[11:27] <moad> i cant find anything under Tools
[11:28] <BoltClock> im having major problems with my graphics card and gutsy
[11:28] <ikonia> coal: who started it is normally the owner in the process out of "ps -ef"
[11:28] <jaggz-> why is there no python 2.4.1 here.. all the python files come in 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 except the actual python itself http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.4/
[11:28] <jaggz-> I know it's old.. but I have to get this system working :(
[11:28] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia i can't get that far down in the filesystem
[11:28] <amores> hay algun español
[11:28] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: what are you actually typing
[11:28] <ikonia> !es | ampex
[11:28] <ubotu> ampex: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:28] <ikonia> oops
[11:28] <^NighT^WalkeR^> cd..
[11:28] <ikonia> !es | amores
[11:28] <ubotu> amores: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:28] <coal> ikonia: I have a pid that sayes owner: nobody
[11:28] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: try this "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:28] <ikonia> coal: nobody is actually a user
[11:29] <ikonia> coal: what process are you looking at
[11:30] <^NighT^WalkeR^> thanks ikonia
[11:30] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: no problem
[11:30] <EcoBlue> lol spanish
[11:30] <^NighT^WalkeR^> let's see if this works...
[11:30] <EcoBlue> still tired, and I drank some bawls too
[11:30] <BoltClock> can anyone help me with my problem? graphics problems here haunting me
[11:30] <^NighT^WalkeR^> i'm off
[11:30] <juli2> Hi
[11:30] <juli2> as anyone install pfb fonts in ubuntu?
[11:31] <erUSUL> BoltClock: you will have to provide some more details
[11:32] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, its not faster at all
[11:32] <BoltClock> erUSUL: im on a fresh gutsy install. my graphics card is an onboard NVIDIA GF7100. i installed the proprietary driver that gutsy asked me to install but now it can only start safely in low graphics mode
[11:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En HD performance not video
[11:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, you said makes it faster
[11:33] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i know it does
[11:33] <misslecommander> file accessand xfer
[11:33] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, makes programs load faster? they load the same speed
[11:34] <coal> ikonia: Sorry, had to check on my baby-boy. The pid is a atftpd
[11:34] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: then you dont have 32bit xfer enabled in bios/cmos
[11:34] <UBUNTUJAY123> my cpu runs at 70 to 90% at all times what could be wrong
[11:34] <erawfish> UBUNTUJAY123: which process uses the CPU?
[11:34] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i have a 64bit computer
[11:34] <misslecommander> UBUNTUJAY123 that could get a little hot in there
[11:34] <petepete> UBUNTUJAY123, go into console and type: top
[11:34] <ePax> ikonia: Sorry i was litle away... I have 7.10
[11:35] <misslecommander> as do i 64bit
[11:35] <moad> what are the most useful Gnome Panel Applets ?
[11:35] <erUSUL> BoltClock: can you post your lspci output on paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[11:35] <UBUNTUJAY123> htop
[11:35] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: 64 or 32bit has nothing to do with how fast your hdd gets data
[11:35] <Jay-Oh-En> UBUNTUJAY123, open terminal and use the command htop
[11:35] <UBUNTUJAY123> i already got that
[11:35] <^NighT^WalkeR^> is it possible to have keyring without a password?
[11:35] <BoltClock> erUSUL: lspci outpu?
[11:35] <UBUNTUJAY123> what do i look for in there
[11:35] <BoltClock> output*
[11:35] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, well i looked everywhere i couldnt find the 32bit transfers
[11:35] <ePax> When i try to install VLC i get message that it couldnt be installed so i need to install it thrue synaptic.... but i can not install it there either.
[11:35] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: you are mixing 64bit bus with 32buit HD xfers, not the same
[11:35] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: why would you want those?
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> ePax, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, to make my computer faster
[11:36] <petepete> UNBUNTUJAY: errr the top process? the one which is using all your cpu?!
[11:36] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: while you can do set stuff like that with hdparm, you really shouldn't do i
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, to make my hdd faster
[11:36] <erawfish> it
[11:36] <erUSUL> BoltClock: run lspci on a terminal
[11:36] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: how fast is it right now?
[11:36] <ePax> ill try that
[11:36] <UBUNTUJAY123> theres two things that has a red 19 beside it in htop
[11:36] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, kinda slow for the stuff i have in my computer
[11:37] <erawfish> ie what disk is it and what does hdparm -tT  on it say?
[11:37] <Jay-Oh-En> UBUNTUJAY123, whats using the most cpu %
[11:38] <BoltClock> erUSUL: what command do i use?
[11:38] <UBUNTUJAY123> python
[11:38] <zackie> I need Extensive help with something Mundane and super easy so it seems to all you Ubuntu Guru's haha
[11:38] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: you couldnt have done it the way i showed you. i thought it was funny you edited a protected file with gedit
[11:38] <erawfish> UBUNTUJAY123: so what python script uses the CPU?
[11:39] <zackie> It is just installing Tar.Gz Files.. [][][][][][][][]
[11:39] <UBUNTUJAY123> i dont know
[11:39] <erUSUL> BoltClock: lspci
[11:40] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, how gksudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf will work the same as nano i prefer gui whats the problem with that
[11:40] <zackie> It is just installing Tar.Gz Files.. [][][][][][][][]
[11:40] <zackie> I need Extensive help with something Mundane and super easy so it seems to all you Ubuntu Guru's haha
[11:40] <BoltClock> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52397
[11:40] <juli2> as anyone install pfb fonts in ubuntu?
[11:40] <zackie> not so much extensive.. haha
[11:40] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: not getting into it, but i figured you didnt have the skill to do it
[11:40] <BoltClock> doesnt look good
[11:41] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i have more experience then you bro
[11:41] <predaeus> Hello, what is the sudo switch again to really emulate root? I need to echo to /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax and need "real" root rights for that.
[11:41] <misslecommander> lol
[11:41] <bardyr> predaeus, sudp -i
[11:41] <misslecommander> this isnt flame, and i highly doubt you do.
[11:41] <zackie> I need Extensive help with something Mundane and super easy so it seems to all you Ubuntu Guru's haha
[11:41]  * Jay-Oh-En hates when people doubt him
[11:42] <bardyr> predaeus, sudo -i *
[11:42] <zoom> I backed out the recent update to xorg by replacing the newer xserver-xorg-core <IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1 with the previous <IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8. VLC now works fine again.
[11:42] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: you don't have the need to do it either
[11:42] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, hdparm isnt something i tried to get into thats why i dont know alot aboutt it
[11:42] <iltomee_> i want to map the Super_L key to work as the Control_L. i have an .xmodmap file with this content: keysym Super_L = Control_L. the super_L still wont work as a contorl
[11:42] <bardyr> zackie, extract it and read the README/INSTALL files
[11:42] <predaeus> bardyr, doesn't work, $ ls /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax -l-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-01-18 12:38 /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[11:42] <erawfish> Jay-Oh-En: you are still very mistaken about what you need and show do
[11:42] <Jay-Oh-En> whatever
[11:43] <Jay-Oh-En> erawfish, ?
[11:43] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: i can assure you 32bit xfers are much faster. like it or not, its true
[11:43] <bardyr> predaeus, whats the problem?
[11:43] <predaeus> bardyr, ah, I think due to the nature of sudo I need to encase the command somehow.
[11:43] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i wasnt doubting that! i just couldnt find it in my cmos
[11:43] <predaeus> sudo -i echo "0x7fffffff" > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax bash: /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax: Permission denied
[11:43] <predaeus> bardyr, ^^^
[11:43] <Carb0n> !Flash
[11:44] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:44] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[11:44] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: its ok, your not the first
[11:44] <Besnik> Hello, could someone give me a hint about sound in Gutsy Gibonn? I'm running it on a HP Pavilion dv6000, but I hear no sound from the box
[11:44] <bardyr> predaeus, you just need sudo cmd for that if you want to be root your type sudo -i
[11:44] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, do the first link and scroll down
[11:44] <predaeus> bardyr, ah ok got it.
[11:44] <Carb0n> ok, I'm trying
[11:44] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i seriously looked everywhere thats why it took me so long
[11:45] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I saw it, but can't find the update-flashplugin command
[11:45] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, or until you see a box with commands in it
[11:45] <misslecommander> Jay-Oh-En: dont worry about, i am fine. you are fine. get on with the linux help. i listen mostly
[11:45] <antares>  My message is on http://paste.debian.net/47141
[11:45] <rudlavibizon_> hi
[11:45] <BoltClock> erUSUL: how is it?
[11:45] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Why haven't they updated the repos?
[11:45] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, nope
[11:46] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Is bug #173890 closed?
[11:46] <misslecommander> how often they update them ?
[11:46] <rudlavibizon_> where can i find the list of dependencies for each packet?
[11:46] <predaeus> bardyr, ok I think that did it. For some /proc settings you need to be root to write access them.
[11:46] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, i just had a update
[11:46] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, try updating it
[11:47] <Jay-Oh-En> sudo update-flashplugin
[11:47] <rudlavibizon_> but not in synaptic in a text file?
[11:47] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, that didnt work for me
[11:47] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: command not found.  Do you think I should enable the ubuntu-proposed repo?
[11:47] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, its on that page tho
[11:47] <simion314> hi, i have a new sound card and it has a driver for linux and installation instructions, but ubuntu already installed a driver and i do not know if i must remove the old one first,?
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, i think you should install flash the way it says in the link
[11:48] <mavi-> simion314: doesnt the one that ubuntu installed work?
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> simion314, no
[11:48] <zackie> This may be a lame question how do i found out what Linux version i'm using.. i know it Ubunto 7.1 but what is gutsy and feisty? and all that jazz?
[11:48] <^NighT^WalkeR^> anyone know if it is possible to have a keyring without a password?
[11:48] <mavi-> zackie: 7.10 is gutsy
[11:48] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I'm attempting that and hitting the brick wall ;-)
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> simion314, do not remove the old one first
[11:48] <zackie> mavi___Thanks..
[11:48] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, want me to walk you through it?
[11:49] <bardyr> does anyone know about the program that can turn a windows box into a vmware/virtualbox image?
[11:49] <simion314> Jay-Oh-En,so i can install the new one it will not happen something bad?
[11:49] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I don't know which part I'm missing.  Please do.
[11:49] <Jay-Oh-En> simion314, correct
[11:49] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: that question was asked the other day and although I can't validate it the person testing said "yes you can"
[11:49] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, sudo -i
[11:49] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[11:49] <zackie> mavi___I've been up for 28 hours trying to figure out ubuntu.. i'm an extream windows user but... i got super drunk and played a trick on myself and Installed Ubuntu. Yess i have mental problems... lol just trying to figure out how to use it..
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, tar zxvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[11:50] <mavi-> zackie: =) nice one
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, cd install_flash_player_9_linux/
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, ./flashplayer-installer
[11:50] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: wait
[11:50] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia you wouldn't happen to have an idea on how to do this
[11:50] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, do it in that order
[11:50] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: the tar.gz file is already downloaded
[11:50] <ikonia> ^NighT^WalkeR^: no, sorry, it's not something I've done personally
[11:50] <simion314> Jay-Oh-En: thx, i was afraid that the both drivers will try to run and a conflict can raise, i have problems with the default driver, (at least i belive it is the driver)
[11:51] <juli2> How can i install pfb fonts?
[11:51] <zackie> mavi___Sadly itsnot ajoke haha... it sucks but i i'm making my slef think... Ubuntu/Linux is super hard to cope with.. INstalling/downloading new programs/installing its a wonder i found "Bitchx" to chat with what IRC do you all use?
[11:51] <juli2> i have try many ways but with no luck
[11:51] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I did a dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree, and it asked for the path
[11:51] <mavi-> zackie: on the system menu you should have a "about ubuntu" if you need to know again sometime
[11:51] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, what are you trying to figure out to use
[11:51] <mavi-> zackie: use the built in package manager to get new programs
[11:51] <spike> is anybody here running ubuntu on a macbook and managed to get the eyboard to behave like on a pc?
[11:51] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, why not just do what i just told you? and your flash will work
[11:51] <^NighT^WalkeR^> ikonia ok thanx anyway
[11:51] <zackie> i don't know who direct.. lol this is my first time on an IRC channel
[11:51] <mavi-> zackie: add/remove in the menu
[11:52] <spike> I cant get right click to work, or alt/meta key etc :/
[11:52] <ikonia> spike: that would be an awesome howto, document what your doing and if you get a fix
[11:52] <ikonia> spike: that would be fantastic for the wiki
[11:52] <edeca> Can I use make-kpkg to create a .deb from a vanilla kernel.org kernel?  I don't want to use the one with ubuntu patches as I'm trying to figure out if a bug is in the kernel or the ubuntu build
[11:52] <zackie> mavi___call me an Idiot savant... but add/remove dosen't help nore does Sypnatic... for my usage so to speak
[11:52] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Please don't get irritated, pal.  I'm trying not to pollute the apt db
[11:52] <spike> ikonia: there is some stuff on the wiki actually, but it doesnt work :/
[11:52] <ikonia> edeca: no, you'd need to setup a source deb
[11:52] <mavi-> zackie: what are you trying to do?
[11:53] <erUSUL> BoltClock: do 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and search for Section "Device" and add to that section a line «  BusId "PCI:0:1:0" »
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I know the ./install.bin method
[11:53] <ikonia> spike: exactly hence a working one would be good
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: But don't want to attempt it.
[11:53] <bardyr> edeca, there are some how to compile a kernel the debian way, they are pretty good
[11:53] <edeca> ikonia: OK, cheers.  I'll just install the kernel manually and remove it after :)
[11:53] <bardyr> edeca, howto's
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I'm not trying to somehow make it work
[11:53] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, im not irritated sorry if i came off that way lol
[11:53] <moad> what is a good app to burn music and videos ?
[11:53] <spike> ikonia: k, ta
[11:53] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, "pal"
[11:53] <edeca> bardyr: I'm reading one which uses make-kpkg, but that seems to mandate using a source package and I can't find one without ubuntu patches
[11:53] <bardyr> moad, k3b
[11:53] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I'm no n00b, been fiddling with Debian Sarge for 3 years
[11:54] <spike> also, I'm confused by beryl etc, what's "the thing" today, compiz-fusion?
[11:54] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, then im noob compared to you
[11:54] <zackie> mavi___I'm trying to learn how to download apps that i like... and install them but i don't know how to when i download on to desktop .tar.gz.... how do you install if you can't find them on synaptic/add/remove...
[11:54] <BoltClock> there is a bus id already there, do i add it below?
[11:54] <bardyr> edeca, http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch
[11:54] <Jay-Oh-En> !compiz | spike
[11:54] <ubotu> spike: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[11:54] <misslecommander> anyone have issue where pc speaker beeping while typing ?
[11:54] <zackie> and i hate links cuz it usallly out dated...
[11:54] <mavi-> zackie: the .tar.gz is like a .zip, but dont install stuff that way, use the package manager
[11:54] <misslecommander> i checked ubuntu and this what i got
[11:54] <malawar> ok, so, i'm using the proprietary nvidia binary drivers.. i've enabled twinview. but xorg is using the wrong monitor as primary (login box shows up there, taskbar is there, etc)
[11:54] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, only when i press delete button too much
[11:54] <misslecommander> sudo rmmod pcspkr   to remove it
[11:55] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: oh no, its ok.
[11:55] <misslecommander> will that work ?
[11:55] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: been wondering why the patch for the post-inst script hasn't been made
[11:55] <zackie> mavi___ never works for me... for what i want... but i guess it depends on what i want aye?
[11:55] <erUSUL> BoltClock: what Buid is it? is the same i typed? if not replace it
[11:55] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, because they have no date so they dont worry about it til they nee to
[11:55] <BoltClock> pci 0:16:0, i will replace it now
[11:55] <misslecommander> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-272760.html  reference URL
[11:55] <mavi-> zackie: yeah, often there is ubuntu packages for software, try google ubuntu + the name of the software you want to install
[11:56] <edeca> bardyr: OK, but that suggests you can just use the sources from kernel.org with whatever patches you want and then use make-kpkg
[11:56] <mavi-> zackie: the ubuntu packages are named .deb
[11:56] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, they have otehr things to worry about like hardy and kde4
[11:56] <BoltClock> erUSUL: saved, do i restart ubuntu now?
[11:56] <edeca> bardyr: Which is actually what I'm already doing in the background, but I asked above if that would work and ikonia said no
[11:56] <zackie> mavi___Why is it that that different packages/zip's take a different way of installing them?
[11:56] <bardyr> edeca, it worked for me
[11:56] <erUSUL> BoltClock: yes you can try
[11:57] <zackie> mavi___I'm super new at this... Like i said i was drunk and installed it with out meh other personality knowing...?
[11:57] <BoltClock> alright, brb
[11:57] <edeca> bardyr: Cool :)
[11:57] <mavi-> zackie: .tar.gz is often source packages, that you need to compile
[11:57] <Sharpie> is there a way to make a window 100% transparent? (alt+mousewheel is limited to about 90%)
[11:57] <edeca> bardyr: Well make-kpkg is definitely compiling the kernel, so hopefully I'll get .debs out
[11:57] <mavi-> zackie: while .deb is like installshield in windows
[11:57] <zackie> mavi___What does Compile mean? CD somthign  Sudo somthin?
[11:57] <edeca> bardyr: Will make it easier to distribute to other machines, that's all.. thanks
[11:57] <QfwfQ> just checking...
[11:57] <mavi-> zackie: compile is when you make a program out of a programming lanugage file
[11:57] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: I heard that it is fixed in the proposed brach.  Might as well try that.
[11:57] <edeca> zackie: Compiling is turning something from source (e.g. C/C++) into the program
[11:58] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: Thanks for your time. :-)
[11:58] <Jay-Oh-En> Sharpie, no because you wont see the window to be able to bring back the transparency
[11:58] <zackie> do you have MSN/Google or what where i can talk to you directly from Pidgen?
[11:58] <Sharpie> Jay-Oh-En: you'd see it in the window list on the panel
[11:58] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, np i thought you were tryin to get it to work
[11:58] <edeca> bardyr: Thanks for your help.  I  think the fakeroot in that tutorial is going to be different.. the tutorial I found doesn't use it
[11:59] <zackie> i'll make you laugh i promise... haha
[11:59] <edeca> Urgh, I wish I could go back to running one machine with a hand rolled .config and make install :)
[11:59] <misslecommander> sudo rmmod pcspkr  safe to remove from kernel ?
[11:59] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: it's ok.  anyway, thanks for your patience.
[11:59] <Jay-Oh-En> Sharpie, not sure then
[11:59] <edeca> misslecommander: Yep
[11:59] <mavi-> zackie: under System -> Administration -> Software Sources, enable the universe and multiverse checkboxes
[11:59] <misslecommander> Edeca: thank you
[11:59] <Jay-Oh-En> misslecommander, try it but make a backup of your kernel
[11:59] <mavi-> zackie: that way synaptic and add software finds more packages
[11:59] <mavi-> zackie: and not just core packages
[12:00] <zackie> mavi___they are all enabled..
[12:00] <mavi-> zackie: name a program you tried searching for
[12:00] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, try this sudo update-flashplugin
[12:00] <zackie> mavi___Song Bird the new verson...
[12:00] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, but make sure its installed
[12:00] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:01] <zackie> mavi___.4
[12:01] <BoltClock> erUSUL: didnt work. like before, it spits five lines, blinks a bit at those five lines, then finally decides that it has to start in low gfx mode
[12:01] <Jay-Oh-En> spike, glad to see your back
[12:01] <zackie> are most of you European? by chance?
[12:01] <erUSUL> BoltClock: :( you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' to reconfigure the xserver.
[12:02] <mavi-> zackie: ah, that isnt in the repos, rightclick the file and chose "extract here"
[12:02] <BoltClock> then restart again?
[12:02] <zackie> mavi__i did..
[12:02] <spike> is there anything like proxymity for ubuntu? what it does is listening for incoming bt devices and running scripts based on that
[12:02] <BoltClock> oh wait
[12:02] <BoltClock> i see a screen
[12:02] <erUSUL> BoltClock: you can restart only the X server 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[12:03] <BoltClock> Video mode to be used i.e. screen resolution i want?
[12:03] <zackie> mavi___If you have MSN/Mypace/Google Let me know... haha...
[12:03] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: It can't be installed the "apt" way until and unless I resolve the md5sum problem ;-)
[12:03] <mavi-> zackie: then just enter the directory and doubleclick the file named songbird
[12:03] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, i do
[12:03] <bahman> Hi everybody
[12:04] <zackie> Jay-oh-En which heh...
[12:04] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, oh sudo aptitude install?
[12:04] <zackie> mavi___I know nothing about directory really .. heh..
[12:04] <axmen> any configure tor+privoxy+squid?
[12:04] <mavi-> zackie: the folder
[12:04] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, myspace aim msn
[12:04] <mavi-> zackie. just like windows folders
[12:04] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: yup! :-)
[12:04] <mavi-> it should create a folder named Songbird where you extracted it
[12:05] <Jay-Oh-En> Carb0n, yup that works?
[12:05] <zackie> jay-oh-en___MSN is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Myspace is Smuggz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:05] <BoltClock> erUSUL: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:05] <BoltClock>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080118200524
[12:05] <mavi-> zackie: did it start?
[12:05] <moad> where can i find gnome applets ?
[12:05] <zackie> using pidgen that is... i guess. lol
[12:06] <zackie> mavi___it did not start up
[12:06] <mavi-> zackie: did you find the songbird file?
[12:06] <Carb0n> Jay-Oh-En: no, the md5sum problem persists.  And they say they've removed the fix from gutsy-proposed too.
[12:06] <Carb0n> :-(
[12:06] <bahman> Should I need an antivirus program on my Ubuntu OS, such as: http://clamtk.sourceforge.net/  Also I'm a new user!
[12:06] <zackie> mavi___i did not find it... ;(
[12:06] <mavi-> zackie: do you see the .tar.gz file?
[12:06] <Carb0n> Anyone know why f-prot is no longer available in Gutsy?
[12:06] <mavi-> zackie: rightclick it and chose extract here
[12:07] <zackie> mavi___I did it is on the desktop
[12:07] <mavi-> zackie: do it again if you did it before, it will create a folder
[12:07] <moad> i need a gnome applet directory , anyone ?
[12:07] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, im adding you
[12:07] <zackie> mavi___Songbird "folder so to speak
[12:07] <mavi-> zackie: yes
[12:07] <mavi-> zackie: do you have that folder?
[12:07] <zackie> jay-oh-en Google talk also is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:08] <zackie> jay-oh-en___MSN is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:08] <davef_> If I am on a machine behind a VPN, and want to let someone outside of it log on, how do I use ssh initiated at my end to allow them access (I can see them, they can't see me)?
[12:08] <zackie> mavi___ I have the songbird file on the desktop
[12:08] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie, oh well i dont have google talk but ill add you on msn
[12:08] <mavi-> zackie: but not the folder?
[12:08] <creed_> #gbo
[12:08] <zackie> mavi___THe folder of SOng Bird is on the desktop
[12:09] <mavi-> zackie: then doubleclick that one
[12:09] <zackie> Jay-Oh-En what is your msn
[12:09] <mavi-> zackie: and the file explorer will open
[12:09] <gamer300> привет всем
[12:09] <zackie> mavi____just brings up the directory..
[12:09] <mavi-> yes
[12:09] <mavi-> now in the directory you have a file named songbird
[12:09] <Jay-Oh-En> zackie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:09] <mavi-> zackie: in the directory you have a file named songbird, thats the program, doubleclick that one
[12:10] <zackie> jay-oh-en___ added you there you are haha
[12:10] <BoltClock> erUSUL: upon restarting the X server it prints the same five lines ive been seeing but stops there
[12:10] <Exotics> http://exotics.heavenforum.com/index.htm            ::: free adult forum - membership is free ! be first to become a member ! .........
[12:11] <BoltClock> i had to restart the system... and it -still- doesnt work
[12:11] <UBUNTUJAY123> is the 386 or the 686 better
[12:11] <mavi-> zackie: its like c:\desktop\songbird\songbird.exe in windows terms, so you need to first go into the folder then start the program
[12:12] <zackie> mavi___The folder is in Desktop that shows all the files... but i just need to figure out how to install it all
[12:12] <mavi-> zackie: songbird isnt something you install
[12:12] <mavi-> zackie: there is no install package yet, just a zipped up folder with the program
[12:12] <zackie> mavi___It is extracted on my desktop
[12:13] <mavi-> zackie: you can move it and create a shortcut to the songbird file to start it with
[12:13] <mavi-> zackie: you dont need to install it to run it
[12:14] <erUSUL> BoltClock: :( sorry i do not know what may be wrong... you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and use "nv" as the driver instead of "nvidia" you will have only 2D but it is better than low gfx
[12:14] <mavi-> zackie: just double click the program file
[12:14] <zackie> mavi___just brings opent the file and yet not installed...
[12:14] <mavi-> yes
[12:15] <mavi-> there is no installer
[12:15] <mavi-> they havent done one yet
[12:15] <BoltClock> erUSUL: i only see a screen to pick a screen resolution when i exec that command
[12:15] <pkundu> hi, I have a ubuntu live cd iso and a 2gb USB drive and a desktop running xp.my laptop cd drive is broken. can I use the iso and 2gb usb stick to install ubuntu in my laptop.
[12:15] <pkundu> my laptop does boot from usb
[12:15] <praveen_> hw do i change the orange screen color wen my gnome starts ?
[12:16] <moDumass> hmm, hey all, so i have this NAS setup. using windows share and viewing it as a foler with nautilus, but i only get about 2mbs where i have 100/1000 router and network adapters
[12:16] <UBUNTUJAY123> pkundu yes u can
[12:16] <adir1982> tu
[12:16] <moDumass> and im thinking this nas has a 10/100 any idea why my transfer speeds are so craply slow
[12:16] <pkundu> !usbstick
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbstick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <adir1982> have this chat in hebrew ?
[12:17] <praveen_> can i change the orange screen color wen my gnome starts ? in gutsy gibbon
[12:17] <misslecommander> pkundo: you wont be able to boot with it in ISO format
[12:17] <Pici> !hebrew | adir1982
[12:17] <ubotu> adir1982: לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:
[12:17] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[12:17] <UBUNTUJAY123> just put it in the usb and in the bios set it to boot from usb only
[12:17] <UBUNTUJAY123> and it will install
[12:17] <pkundu> misslecommander, then how to do it
[12:17] <misslecommander> pkundo: you using linux ?
[12:17] <pkundu> no xp
[12:18] <moDumass> but you want to boot into linux?
[12:18] <adir1982> rhanks
[12:18] <adir1982> thabks
[12:18] <pkundu> UBUNTUJAY123, how do i make my usb bootable
[12:18] <misslecommander> pkundo: you need a program like WinISO or MagicISO to do it. there are plenty of them, either way you need to make them in the original format
[12:18] <pkundu> i have MagicISO
[12:19] <misslecommander> pkundo: some motherboards allow you to boot USB in DOS mode
[12:19] <adir1982> what with kde 4 for ubuntu ? how i can install it in " apt-get"
[12:19] <misslecommander> pkundo:  your motherboard must support it though.
[12:19] <UBUNTUJAY123> misslecommander is right u cant boot it from iso format
[12:19] <Pici> !kde4 | adir1982
[12:19] <ubotu> adir1982: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:19] <kiista> Hello!
[12:19] <misslecommander> pkundo: get WinISO or MagicISO
[12:19] <kiista> LiveCD?
[12:19] <UBUNTUJAY123> i have to convert it to file format then save it to ur usb stick
[12:20] <kiista> Is there a LiveCD of the current Ubuntu version?
[12:20] <pkundu> ok Magic ISO i have
[12:20] <misslecommander> pkundo: make sure you can enable Boot from USB DOS in CMOS
[12:20] <pkundu> ok
[12:20] <praveen_> kiista: wat version u looking for
[12:20] <misslecommander> pkundo: open with MAgicISO and extraxt image to USB
[12:20] <BoltClock> erUSUL: i only see a screen to pick a screen resolution when i exec that command
[12:20] <pkundu> misslecommander, ok
[12:21] <misslecommander> pkundo: ISO is an image file, or think of it as a package deal like a ZIP file or RAR file
[12:21] <praveen_> kiista: live cd is available for all latest ubuntu versions including Gutsy Gibbon i.e 7.10
[12:21] <UBUNTUJAY123> boltclcok sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg do that and put in ur config and it be ok
[12:21] <pkundu> misslecommander, ok
[12:22] <misslecommander> pkundo: when you restart your computer, choose BOOT OPTIONS or BOOT SEQUENCE, and put USB first
[12:22] <praveen_> heh how do i change default color in gutsy gibbon ?
[12:22] <misslecommander> pkundo:  its different with alot of boards
[12:22] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: "Attempt to autodetect video hardware?"
[12:22] <kiista> praveen_: The live cd version is not mentioned on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download.
[12:22] <misslecommander> pkundo: there is also an option to choose BOOT USB DOS or something very similiar, anable that as well
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> yea autodetect it
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> bolt just get envy
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> and get it over with
[12:23] <misslecommander> pkundo: they are making some pretty good size USB, i should get one too, just for that situation
[12:23] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: will envy really solve it that easily? :/
[12:23] <UBUNTUJAY123> yeah
[12:23] <kiista> praveen_: So I don't know from where I can get the live cd image.
[12:24] <praveen_> kiista: u will have to install ur Ubuntu from a live cd they provide
[12:24] <kiista> praveen_: Oh. Is it called "Desktop CD"?
[12:24] <misslecommander> pkundo: i cant be sure Linux will like you installing from USB, but its worth a try
[12:24] <Yanch0> I'm trying this command : cvs co mozilla/client.mk following the tutorial found here : http://webtools.mozilla.org/build/config.cgi but giving me : cvs checkout: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option / cvs [checkout aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable.
[12:24] <BoltClock> !envy
[12:24] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:24] <BoltClock> meh
[12:25] <UBUNTUJAY123> boltclock get it here ok http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[12:25] <misslecommander> !binarydriver
[12:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:25] <kiista> praveen_: The "Desktop CD" from http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/ubuntu-releases/7.10/ is also the live cd?
[12:26] <praveen_> kiista: yep
[12:26] <bono> ciao a tutti
[12:26] <Pici> !it | bono
[12:26] <ubotu> bono: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:26] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: installing... and it says "Please insert 'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)' into the drive '/cdrom/'" its referring to the live cd?
[12:26] <Tilllinux> is there something like just write office for linux/ubuntu ?
[12:26] <kiista> praveen_: Thanks! :-)
[12:26] <bono> http://alexanderweb.altervista.org
[12:26] <UBUNTUJAY123> yes it is bolt
[12:26] <bono> ottimo sito con guide e programmi
[12:27] <UBUNTUJAY123> i dont see why gusty didnt include envy
[12:27] <BoltClock> lol
[12:27] <UBUNTUJAY123> envy is good if u use it right
[12:28] <parkin> !envy
[12:28] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:28] <Pici> !wfm | ubotu
[12:28] <ubotu> ubotu: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[12:28] <Pici> UBUNTUJAY123: see above ^
[12:28] <int[w]> hello
[12:28] <BoltClock> lol
[12:28] <int[w]> please could somebody tell me what i need to edit to put --log=/path/to/log in mysql ?
[12:28] <UBUNTUJAY123> yeah i seen above
[12:29] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: installed
[12:29] <Jay-Oh-En> Pici, you told ubotu not to use works for me lol
[12:29] <UBUNTUJAY123> good
[12:29] <UBUNTUJAY123> lmao
[12:30] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: /etc/mysql/my.cnf should be what you're looking for.
[12:30] <int[w]> thank you
[12:30] <int[w]> i will try that too
[12:30] <UBUNTUJAY123> this is what i live by if it work use it if it dont u know not ot use it agin
[12:30] <ZionPsyfer> =)
[12:30] <TheLynx> what word processor do you recommend för gnome? I use openoffice writer, but find it a bit slow. is abiword better for gnome or does it lack many features?
[12:30] <mavi-> abiword is ok
[12:31] <mavi-> it have most stuff
[12:31] <UBUNTUJAY123> and i thought ubuntu is for people to try to make better and if stuff works and u say not to use it how is any thing going to get better
[12:31] <TheLynx> mavi: and way faster? what about the spreadsheat in gnome office?
[12:31] <shredder> if you are using Java apps. Don't apply the latest X update. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020&highlight=eclipse
[12:32] <Pici> UBUNTUJAY123: Envy is not supported or reccomended here. End of conversation.
[12:32] <UBUNTUJAY123> i would install java from the java site
[12:32] <Tilllinux> shredder: ... couldn't you say that earlier :D
[12:32] <shredder> the thread has instructions how to downgrade. I just tested it myself, so I'm up and running again!
[12:33] <BoltClock> UBUNTUJAY123: what do i do now that envy is installed?
[12:33] <int[w]> ZionPsyfer, could you please be more specific where exactly in conf ? (i usualy use fc .. and there i always put it in /etc/init.d/mysql ) ... here i just can't figure it out :(
[12:33] <orochi_> Hmm...I've already applied that update :/ Java apps are still working though
[12:33] <UBUNTUJAY123> go to envy and pick ur drive
[12:33] <shredder> orochi_: then don't restart X. Then it will stop working.
[12:34] <Pici> BoltClock: Envy is explicitly not supported here.
[12:34] <Tilllinux> BoltClock: best to do is leave envy alone ;) (though I have to admit I've been using it some time ago, and it even did work with the upgrade from feisty to gutsy)
[12:34] <Pici> BoltClock: It has been known to break systems on upgrade, and as such we do not support it.
[12:34] <orochi_> shredder: Well that's great to know :P Hopefully that will be fixed quickly...although for me Java apps have acted funny under 7.10 anyway, choppy audio
[12:35] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: no problem, in the /etc/mysql/my.cnf file there is a line that says '#log            = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log'  uncommenting that *should*  set mysql to log to that file.
[12:35] <shredder> aha never used audio in any of my java apps in 7.10 actually.
[12:35] <NigeyUK> m33p
[12:36] <int[w]> found it
[12:36] <int[w]> thank you
[12:36] <orochi_> shredder: Yeah, it could just be my crappy motherboard but it worked in the last release, so...who knows :< I was writing a little game in Java for a while but moved to Python because of the audio weirdness
[12:36] <BoltClock> is an nvidia GF7100 card known to be incompatible in some way with ubuntu?
[12:37] <JAY123> back
[12:37] <aleeex> I got an AMD 64 and I have prob installing ubuntu 7.10, it stacks in formating at 5%.. guess something wrong wit sata drives, any ideas?
[12:37] <JAY123> Pici fuck u
[12:38] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: Try that out and see if it does what you'd like.  If not I'll try to help ya you as much as I can.
[12:38] <Ahti> !language
[12:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:38] <BoltClock> lol
[12:38] <bullgard4> What is the 'kernel command line'? I couldn't find a definition yet.
[12:39] <ikonia> Pici: dissapointly slow, your record will never be beat at this rate
[12:39] <aleeex> I got an AMD 64 and I have prob installing ubuntu 7.10, it stacks in formating at 5%.. guess something wrong wit sata drives, any ideas?
[12:39] <ikonia> aleeex: what sata chipset is it ?
[12:40] <aleeex> ikonia u mean sata II ?
[12:40] <int[w]> ZionPsyfer, it's not working
[12:40] <int[w]> please excuse my 5 minutes .. i really have to eat
[12:40] <ikonia> aleeex: no, what chipset is it
[12:40] <ikonia> aleeex: as in nforce6 for example, or VIA
[12:41] <Ahti> Pici: Are the ops of this channel not allowed to (in other than extreme cases) to ban people permanently?
[12:41] <praveen_> hw do i change the orange background wen gnome loads in Gutsy Gibbon ?
[12:41] <yoni_ub> Hello, I'm looking for help in order to configure an dns server on a ubuntu linux someone can help me ?
[12:41] <ikonia> Ahti: sure they are
[12:41] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: No worries. Guess I should start at the beginning.  What all are you trying to log?
[12:41] <Ahti> ikonia: You'd think so O.o
[12:42] <ikonia> Ahti: they do, there are a few people on perm bans
[12:42] <Pici> Ahti: Its not really ontopic, but indefinite bans are rare. We usually drop them at about a month or so if no one shows up to contest them.
[12:42] <aleeex> ikonia I got a gigabyte GA-MA69VM-s2, helps this?
[12:42] <Ahti> I see
[12:42] <ikonia> livekcats: I'll look up
[12:42] <ikonia> oosp
[12:42] <ikonia> aleeex: I'll look it up
[12:43] <BoltClock> Pici: could you suggest an alternative but supported solution than envy? since anyway it isnt working for me >.>
[12:43] <aleeex> ikonia thanx, i am 2 days stacked
[12:43] <DOOM_NX> UT3 runs on Ubuntu, right?
[12:43] <Pici> BoltClock: I would suggest using the restricted drivers manager. System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager.
[12:43] <Sal> hello
[12:43] <yoni_ub> someone has already configure a dns server in order to host a domain name ?
[12:44] <Sal> from what linux does ubuntu come from?
[12:44] <Ahti> DOOM_NX: If there's an installer on the CD/DVD like there was in UT2003
[12:44] <DOOM_NX> debian
[12:44] <ikonia> aleeex: give me a few minutes
[12:44] <DOOM_NX> Ahti, thank u
[12:44] <ikonia> yoni_ub: many times
[12:44] <Ahti> DOOM_NX: If it's CDs, it's on the LAST CD.
[12:44] <aleeex> ikonia ok
[12:45] <NigeyUK> DOOM_NX, wrong, there is no workin gut3 for linux yet, they did not finish the OGL renderer in time for the retail release
[12:45] <yoni_ub> ikonia: can you help to configure mine, i follow a lot of tutorial but it doesn't work
[12:45] <DOOM_NX> oh i see
[12:45] <BoltClock> Pici: o.o the driver... is disabled! just now when it was disabled, gutsy displayed in normal gfx, not low gfx mode
[12:45] <BoltClock> right now its disabled and its in low gfx mode -_-
[12:45] <DOOM_NX> cause i was able to play UT2004 on linux
[12:45] <NigeyUK> it is being worked on mind, just dont expect it in a hurry
[12:45] <ikonia> yoni_ub:  you know you need "two" dns servers to host an IP  ?
[12:45] <ikonia> host a domain sorry
[12:45] <Pici> BoltClock: So... enable it?
[12:45] <NigeyUK> yer, ut2k4 ran fine, they just slow with ut3 :(
[12:46] <yoni_ub> my tld point on my server, on my server dig command seem to give good result but my tld doesn't ping
[12:46] <BoltClock> will restart pc now
[12:46] <yoni_ub> Yeah i know i have two
[12:46] <ikonia> yoni_ub: ok - you may get better help in #bind as setting up dns servers is really not ubuntu's issue
[12:46] <yoni_ub> ikonia: the second one, is provide by the company i took the server
[12:46] <yoni_ub> that's right
[12:46] <abdou1> what
[12:47] <Agent_bob> if i set etc/ssh/sshd_conf  "UsePrivilegeSeparation no"  sshd will start.  but that of course is a security hole but if i set it to "UsePrivilegeSeparation yes"  then i get the error massage "Privilege separation user sshd does not exist"   anyone know why?  or how to fix it?
[12:47] <ikonia> Agent_bob: you need a unix account called sshd
[12:47] <ikonia> Agent_bob: if you install sshd via ubuntu it gets created for you on its own
[12:47] <ikonia> Agent_bob: are you using ubuntu ? did you install the openssh-server package from the repos ?
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ikonia  i never had one before   but i'll try that.
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ikonia dapper drake minimal install
[12:48] <ikonia> Agent_bob: and you installed the open-sshserver package ?
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ssh pulls in openssh-client and openssh-server
[12:49] <ikonia> Agent_bob: and you've got no sshd user ?
[12:49] <Torago> Heyo, I wanted to know if there was a software for ubuntu that lets you select part of a song, extract it, and turn it into an MP3. I don't know what this process is called, maybe something-ripping?
[12:49] <Agent_bob> no never have had.   let me check on another box
[12:49] <BoltClock> Pici: still in low gfxmode
[12:50] <BoltClock> the only good thing i notice the driver does is stop all that flickering of the screen
[12:50] <Agent_bob> ikonia ah another box does have that account  sshd:x:114:65534::/var/run/sshd:/bin/false
[12:50] <Pici> BoltClock: Try changing your screen settings, it should be in System>Preferences> Somewhere (I dont have a graphical session to look at here)
[12:50] <Agent_bob> i'll add it and see what it does.
[12:50] <ikonia> Agent_bob: exceptionally odd
[12:50] <Agent_bob> thanks.
[12:51] <ikonia> Agent_bob: make sure you follow the home dir and /bin/false shell
[12:51] <BoltClock> preferences>screen resolution?
[12:51] <Agent_bob> i'll have to just edit the /etc/passwd file
[12:51] <BoltClock> or administration>screens and graphics?
[12:51] <Agent_bob> i did say minimal install
[12:51] <ikonia> Agent_bob: nah, useradd
[12:52] <Agent_bob> command not found
[12:52] <ikonia> Agent_bob: hang on
[12:52] <ro7761> Agent_bob: adduser
[12:52] <Agent_bob> command not found
[12:52] <Agent_bob> i'll edit the file.
[12:52] <dpn`> i just updated some stuff, and now eclipse won't run
[12:52] <dpn`> is there a log of package i just installed somewhere?
[12:52] <aleeex> ikonia anythin?
[12:52] <dpn`> packages*
[12:52] <ikonia> Agent_bob: do'nt add the file
[12:52] <BoltClock> Pici: preferences>screen resolution? or administration>screens and graphics? hopefully you can recall
[12:52] <Pici> dpn`: /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:52] <ikonia> aleeex: not much info on it
[12:53] <int[w]> ZionPsyfer, i'm trying to log the querys send to mysql
[12:53] <dpn`> Pici: ta
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: follow these commands
[12:53] <Pici> BoltClock: Preferences>Screen Resolution iirc.
[12:53] <praveen_> hw do i change splash settings in gnome ?
[12:53]  * Agent_bob didn't say add.  i said edit.
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: "sudo groupadd -g 65534 nogroup
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: add and edit are the same thing if you are missing an account
[12:53] <dpn`> 2008-01-18 19:56:24 status installed xserver-xorg-core 2:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.1
[12:53] <dpn`> i bet that's the prolem
[12:53] <aleeex> ikonia thanx anyway
[12:53] <dpn`> :(
[12:53] <Agent_bob> i'll just edit /etc/passwd  thanks for the info.
[12:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: it won't work
[12:53] <BoltClock> 800 x 600 and 640 x 480 only
[12:54] <Agent_bob> sure it will.
[12:54] <BoltClock> Pici: i dont think a -low- gfx mode would accept any higher than those
[12:54] <ikonia> Agent_bob: what group are you going to put it in
[12:54] <BoltClock> my monitor is a 22" widescreen
[12:55] <x1800x> Does someone know where i can look for an explain to use ubuntu from a usb flash drve?
[12:55] <Pici> BoltClock: Try using `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh`
[12:55] <BoltClock> Pici: i tried that an hour or so ago, does not work
[12:56] <Pici> !usb | x1800x
[12:56] <ikonia> Agent_bob: be sure to put it in the correct group, and lock the password
[12:56] <ubotu> x1800x: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[12:56] <Pici> BoltClock: But now you have the correct drivers installed.
[12:56] <x1800x> THX!
[12:56] <Agent_bob> ikonia it works thanks.
[12:56] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: All of them?  Or just slow and errors?
[12:56] <BoltClock> i also had the same drivers installed when i tried that just now
[12:56] <int[w]> uhm ... if i do select * from table ... i want to see that
[12:56] <BoltClock> Pici: never mind, ill give it another go
[12:56] <int[w]> helps me a lot in seeing what querys are send
[12:57] <Jay-Oh-En> !java
[12:57] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[12:58] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install java 1.5
[12:58] <BoltClock> Pici: the screen allowed me to pick a resolution so i did, now restart?
[12:58] <Pici> BoltClock: Yessir.
[12:58] <Pici> BoltClock: actually.. wait
[12:58] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: in my.cnf make sure that 'log             = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log' is uncommented.  You need to restart mysql after saving btw.  My queries show up in the /var/log/mysql/mysql.log file.
[12:58] <Pici> BoltClock: What video card do you have?
[12:58] <BoltClock> Pici: video card?
[12:59] <Pici> BoltClock: ati/nvida.?
[12:59] <neopsyche> hi, Im trying to install wifi usb adapter.. can someone help with installation and what software to use to detect wifi networks in my neighbourhood?
[12:59] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install java 1.5
[12:59] <int[w]> so do mine now :|
[12:59] <int[w]> thank you ZionPsyfer
[12:59] <int[w]> i was looging at /var/log/mysql.log
[12:59] <dpn`> hmm latest X update seems to have crippled a few apps. i can't run a SWT (eclipse) or WX (SPE) app
[12:59] <ZionPsyfer> int[w]: nice! glad you got it working. =)
[12:59] <BoltClock> Pici: graphics or video card? or are they the same?
[13:00] <Pici> BoltClock: Same thing.
[13:00] <BoltClock> Pici: nvidia geforce7100 (onboard)
[13:00] <int[w]> guess i should learn to read something till the end :">
[13:00] <Pici> BoltClock: Okay, go ahead and reboot.   I've beat my head for a good length of time on some of their stuff. ;)
[13:01] <DRebellion> !wifi | neopsyche
[13:01] <ubotu> neopsyche: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:01] <int[w]> :) indeed .. at some things it's bad
[13:02] <_mug> hey
[13:02] <Ciusbet> fuck yeah!
[13:02] <_mug> ive got a problem starting azureus
[13:02] <_mug> after clicking the icon nothin happens
[13:02] <petepete> _max_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020
[13:03] <_mug> worked fine a few hours ago
[13:03] <petepete> _mug, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671020
[13:03] <DRebellion> !language | Ciusbet
[13:03] <ubotu> Ciusbet: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:03] <BoltClock> Pici: does not work
[13:03] <Ciusbet> haha ok, i'll try to use correct words sorry
[13:04] <_mug> petepete: thx.
[13:05] <BoltClock> Pici: still low gfx mode ><
[13:05] <zackie> how can i find my webcam? while pluged in the USB???[][][
[13:06] <misslecommander> Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.
[13:06] <misslecommander> anyone ?
[13:06] <misslecommander> SMB ?
[13:06] <pkundu> misslecommander, i have extracted the ubuntu live cd iso to my usb stick. but my system dont boot from it
[13:06] <ikonia> misslecommander: locate the factor ?
[13:06] <ikonia> pkundu: that won't work
[13:07] <ikonia> misslecommander: the factory ?
[13:07] <pkundu> misslecommander, do i need to do anything to make the usb stick bootable
[13:07] <misslecommander> pkundu: does your motherboard allow for boot from USB device ?
[13:07] <DRebellion> !webcam | zackie
[13:07] <ubotu> zackie: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[13:07] <misslecommander> pkundu: in bios/cmos when you first power up your computer, in the settings some boards have option to boot USB
[13:07] <OshaMaHUe> i am trying to install grub. i followed the instructions. i reboot my computer . at the beggining it stuck at the grub console. i couldnt install ubuntu and im tryg to get to windows because i need to rip another ubuntu cd. do anyone know how to solve this
[13:07] <pkundu> misslecommander, yes it does
[13:08] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: what do you see on the screen in front of you
[13:08] <misslecommander> pkundu: if you know how to reverse anything you do in there, put USB first
[13:08] <ikonia> pkundu: you can't just copy the cd to the usb drive and hit boot
[13:08] <pkundu> misslecommander, i have change the boot option in bios too
[13:08] <jetscreamer> stick a dos floppy in and run fdisk /mbr
[13:08] <OshaMaHUe> grub>
[13:08] <jetscreamer> or w98 cd
[13:08] <misslecommander> pkundu: when it tells you to remove CD you remove USB before post
[13:08] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: ok, jetscreamer has a stunning idea, or we can fix this in more detail,
[13:09] <int[w]> by any chance someone uses ZDE ?
[13:09] <ikonia> pkundu: that won't work
[13:09] <Pici> BoltClock: You may want to check on the forums for people with that graphics card.  It should be working now, but *shrug*
[13:09] <ikonia> !boot
[13:09] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[13:09] <OshaMaHUe> i dont have a floppy drive
[13:09] <BoltClock> Pici: meh, alright
[13:09] <OshaMaHUe> or win 98 cd
[13:09] <mutable> hello, how can i discover windows shares from console? just tell me the tool name please (and please do not tell me samba, i know that it is essential)
[13:09] <bullgard4> What is the 'kernel command line'? I couldn't find a definition yet.
[13:09] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: you don't need a floppy drive, boot of a XP/Vista cd
[13:09] <misslecommander> pkundu: i dont know it will install with USB, i cant be sure Linux will let you
[13:09] <ikonia> bullgard4: there isn't one
[13:10] <ikonia> misslecommander: your telling someone wrong info
[13:10] <misslecommander> pkundu: just know how to reverse anythign you do in CMOS
[13:10] <bullgard4> ikonia: What is the reason for such a situation?
[13:10] <Tilllinux> Is there something similar to JustWrite Office for ubuntu?
[13:10] <jetscreamer> ok how about w2k or xp cd
[13:10] <Lockly_Hair> I downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 desktop version, is it possible to just test it by putting it in on a cd on startup without wiping my current OS (XP) and files
[13:10] <ikonia> bullgard4: there is no such thing as a kernel command line
[13:10] <ZionPsyfer> mutable:  try 'smbclient -L SERVERNAME'  or 'smbclient -L IPADDRESS'
[13:10] <jetscreamer> boot recovery console run fixmbr
[13:10] <ikonia> bullgard4: you can pass kernel boot options/arugments if you want, is that what you mean
[13:10] <misslecommander> ikonia: motherboards can boot USB, i dont know you can install Linux with them, as i alredy stated
[13:10] <ikonia> misslecommander: yes you can, but you don't just copy the cd to a usb drive
[13:11] <_mug> petepete: is the xorg-server-update the for http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-January/031918.html? then maybe i better wait for another update..
[13:11] <jetscreamer> yes you can install linux on a usb drive
[13:11] <Tilllinux> Lockly_Hair: of course.  You can google for 'kernel command line', and you will find very many hits.
[13:11] <jetscreamer> probably a camera
[13:11] <misslecommander> ikonia: i am sure you didnt see our conversatin before
[13:11] <Lockly_Hair> ty
[13:11] <pkundu> but my laptop cd/dvd is broken, how can i install ubuntu in it then
[13:11] <jetscreamer> pkundu: goodbye-windows.com
[13:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: no I'm not
[13:11] <Tilllinux> pkundu: wubi
[13:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: READ the hits that say "kernel command line"
[13:11] <misslecommander> ikonia: his CDrom is broken, he asked me suggestion. you have better ?
[13:11] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 "kernel command line" ???   cat /proc/cmdline   ?
[13:11] <jetscreamer> or that
[13:12] <mutable> ZionPsyfer: i meant to discover all shares on LAN, something similar to "neighborhood" in win or "network" in nautilus
[13:12] <ikonia> misslecommander: no - booting from usb is fine, but you don't just copy a CD to the usb pen drive to boot it
[13:12] <ljsmithx> i was unable to start VLC so i went to the terminal and typed "vlc" and i go this.. http://pastebin.com/m37fdcf58
[13:12] <misslecommander> ikonia: i alreeady told him, i couldnt say it would work
[13:12] <ljsmithx> i also uninstalled then reinstalled and same error
[13:12] <misslecommander> ikonia: he had ISO and used MagicISO
[13:12] <ikonia> Tilllinux: we don't recommend wubi as it's not an ubuntu product
[13:12] <ikonia> misslecommander: that won't work
[13:12] <bullgard4> ikonia: I am not sure that a kernel command line is defined as a variable that accespts kernel boot options.
[13:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: it is
[13:13] <ljsmithx> :(
[13:13] <misslecommander> ikonia: then you can take it over, i have my own problems
[13:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: the kernel command line is what people are calling the boot options you can pass to the kernel
[13:13] <misslecommander> anyone know why i get this message
[13:13] <bullgard4> Agent_bob: I was considering that but could not find a proof for that.
[13:13] <DRebellion> !enter
[13:13] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:13] <ZionPsyfer> mutable: Linneighborhood might be the ticket then.  I'm not sure how (or if) smbclient can list all shares on a network.  It's a decent gui app.
[13:13] <misslecommander> Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.
[13:13] <ikonia> misslecommander: factory  ?
[13:13] <mutable> ZionPsyfer: ok, thanks for time
[13:14] <pkundu> Tilllinux, my windows is also not booting in my laptop
[13:14] <ljsmithx> i get that sometimes
[13:14] <ikonia> what is "locate the factory" is that the wording in the error
[13:14] <misslecommander> i dotn know Linux runs Samba shares
[13:14] <misslecommander> if they do i dont need them
[13:14] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 i can only assume that "kernel command line" is a referance to the arguments passed to the kernel at boot time.
[13:14] <ljsmithx> ggggggg is getting annoying!!!
[13:14] <pkundu> only option i have is install from USB stick
[13:14] <ZionPsyfer> mutable: np, hopefully that helped.
[13:14] <bullgard4> ikonia: I hear your statement. I am going to prove it. --  Thank you for your comments, anyway.
[13:14] <ljsmithx> i was unable to start VLC so i went to the terminal and typed "vlc" and i go this.. http://pastebin.com/m37fdcf58
[13:14] <ljsmithx> :D
[13:14] <ikonia> bullgard4: there is nothing to prove
[13:14] <misslecommander> pkundu: it was a mere suggestion, it cant hurt to try. at most it wont work, you are out nothing
[13:15] <bullgard4> Agent_bob: Your assumption is roughly the same as ikonia's.
[13:15] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[13:15] <Agent_bob> bullgard4 ikonia may not always be right,  but he aint never wrong     :)))
[13:15] <ljsmithx> how do i fic it marko-_-??
[13:15] <ikonia> Agent_bob: thats nonsense
[13:15] <ljsmithx> fix*
[13:15] <bullgard4> ikonia: Why is there nothing to prove? In what respect?
[13:16] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, ...
[13:16] <marko-_->    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[13:16] <marko-_-> it says everything
[13:16] <ljsmithx> ho
[13:16] <marko-_-> try it.
[13:16] <ljsmithx> im not a developer though
[13:16] <pkundu> :(
[13:16] <ljsmithx> will i have to code it or something?
[13:16] <ikonia> bullgard4: 1.) there is no kernel "command line" the options people are refering to in the links you say in google are the boot parameters passed through grub that people are calling a command line. That is not the correct name, but that is what they are calling it in the links you reference
[13:16] <marko-_-> no.
[13:16] <misslecommander> pkundu: do you have Linux already installed and you are trying to re-install or recover a bad install ?
[13:16] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, try sudo vlc --sync
[13:17] <ljsmithx> ok.. wish me luck :)
[13:17] <Tilllinux> ikonia: okay, but he asked for a way to install ubuntu without cd... that's one ;D
[13:17] <ikonia> Tilllinux: not one we recommend (for future reference)
[13:17] <Trae> I've never had problems with xchat before..... but now when it starts up it's taking about 30 seconds for each channel I have to load.  (multiply that times about 15 channels)
[13:17] <ljsmithx> vlc: unknown option or missing mandatory argument `--sync'
[13:17] <ljsmithx> :(
[13:18] <ikonia> Trae: that can be the server being slow
[13:18] <ikonia> Trae: slow offering information like user lists etc
[13:18] <Trae> ikonia: it's not a server issue... I launch konversation to the same server with no problem
[13:18] <Trae> and it launches mega quick
[13:18] <marko-_-> ljsmithx, i don't know... sorry.
[13:18] <ljsmithx> thats ok
[13:18] <ikonia> Trae: so it's client specific, interesting
[13:18] <bullgard4> ikonia: I have got the feeling that you are right with your last statement, and I will make this to my base assumption. If I will encounter contradictions to that, I will do further resarch. --  Thank you very much.
[13:19] <wers> openoffice.org 2.3's spellchecker doesnt work at all
[13:19] <Trae> ikonia: nod
[13:19] <wers> what do I do with it?
[13:19] <Trae> ikonia: sec I'm going to nuke my configs
[13:19] <ikonia> Trae: client reverse dns lookups perhaps ?
[13:19] <Trae> brb
[13:19] <IdleOne> wers: launchpad.net and report a bug
[13:19] <alison> new ubuntu updates!
[13:20] <wers> IdleOne, mine is a fresh install with fresh config files
[13:20]  * alison loves it when it's fresh!
[13:20] <ikonia> !offtopic | alison
[13:20] <ubotu> alison: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:20] <IdleOne> wers: have you ran sudo apt-get update
[13:20] <alison> how do i apply ubuntu themes?
[13:20] <misslecommander> oh i see whats happening lol
[13:21] <IdleOne> wers: and sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:21] <Trae> hah
[13:21] <ikonia> alison: just drag them into the theme manager
[13:21] <wers> IdleOne, did that
[13:21] <Trae> ok that's freakin' bizzare
[13:21] <Trae> I removed my prefs
[13:21] <alison> ikonia: really it's that easy?
[13:21] <Trae> and blam
[13:21] <IdleOne> wers: then report a bug
[13:21] <Trae> no problem
[13:21] <ikonia> alison: it certainly is
[13:21] <alison> wow
[13:21] <ikonia> Trae: it will be something like that client has reverse lookups turned up
[13:21] <ikonia> Trae: as an easy example
[13:21] <OshaMaHUe> i am trying to install grub. i followed the instructions. i reboot my computer . at the beggining it stuck at the grub console. i couldnt install ubuntu and im tryg to get to windows because i need to rip another ubuntu cd. do anyone know how to solve this. and fdisk doesnt work at cmd of the vista cd
[13:21] <alison> i got this OSX theme i want to add to ubuntu :) hope it works
[13:21] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: boot from a windows cd
[13:22] <Trae> ikonia, :/  ok... well at least it's fixed lol
[13:22] <Trae> ikonia, tx mate
[13:22] <ikonia> Trae: that's just an easy example, not saying that WAS the problem
[13:22] <ikonia> Trae: but that sort of thing is not uncommon
[13:22] <OshaMaHUe> ikonia: should i reinstall windows?
[13:23] <OshaMaHUe> or what should i do
[13:23] <ZionPsyfer> OshaMaHUe: You need to boot the vista cd to the recovery console, then run 'Bootrec /fixboot'  followed  by 'Bootrec /fixmbr'
[13:23] <ikonia> OshaMaHUe: no, people mentioned before, boot from a windows cd and use the "fixboot" or "fixbmr" option from the recovery console
[13:23] <oblio2> hi guys can u suggest something to mod ubuntu tnx [ just a bit bored about my default dsktop ]
[13:23] <alison> hey Im trying to watch a youtube video, but it's really slow on ubuntu, why?
[13:23] <ikonia> alison: flash player not a compatible ? network card driver not as good so slower speed
[13:23] <ggggggg>  /py console
[13:23] <samad909> alison: that is not ubuntu's fault, its your isp
[13:23] <ikonia> alison: just random suggestions
[13:24] <ZionPsyfer> oblio2: Have you checked out http://gnome-look.org ?
[13:24] <ikonia> samad909: it can be ubuntu/linux's fault
[13:24] <alison> ikonia: i belive flash is compatible because its working
[13:24] <samad909> ikonia: alright
[13:24] <ikonia> alison: not "as" compatible that should have read
[13:24] <alison> it didnt work 2 days ago, but for some reason it's workin fine
[13:24] <alison> oh
[13:24] <samad909> ikonia: flash non-free or gnash, which is better?
[13:24] <ikonia> alison: you probably have the flash player version 10 from adobes download site, there have been issues logged against it
[13:24] <oblio2> tnx ZIon ... ^ ^
[13:25] <ikonia> samad909: flash non-free is more developed, gnash will hopefully be a better long term solution
[13:25] <OshaMaHUe> thanks that worked
[13:25] <alison> im not sure which version of flash i have, how can i check?
[13:25] <samad909> ikonia: for current youtube vieweing and stuff flash non-free is better then?
[13:25] <pkundu> misslecommander, my total laptop is broken. I want to install a fresh
[13:25] <pkundu> samad909, see below
[13:25] <ZionPsyfer> OshaMaHUe: Nice. =)
[13:25] <_nmap> gmgergk[erokg[we
[13:25] <pkundu> !brokenflash
[13:25] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:26] <samad909> aliso: about:plugins in firefox
[13:26] <ZionPsyfer> Np oblio2.  Enjoy. =)
[13:26] <samad909> pkundu: i have got the fix, just want to know which is good for youtube as such sites
[13:26] <alison> ikonia: which flash player works the best on ubuntu?
[13:26] <misslecommander> pkundu: i am no Linux pro, but i do know hardware. ask ikonia, he seems to know
[13:26] <Omegacenti> Big, huge problem with my harddrive.
[13:27] <misslecommander> pkundu: you have 2 or more computers ?
[13:27] <Omegacenti> I am not sure, but I think either my HD, or my controller, of my motherboard crashed.
[13:27] <ikonia> alison: thats a debatable question, flash-9 was the best I've seen but thats no longer available, flash-10 seems the best option to me at the moment
[13:27] <Omegacenti> I have been looking everywhere on google, supoprt forums, anything to figure out what went bad. :(
[13:27] <Agent_bob> is there a known issue with making /bin/bash a symlink or script ?     it there a reason it wont work ?
[13:27] <alison> but didn't you say there is a know bug about it?
[13:28] <crush_groove> !flash
[13:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:28] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:28] <alison> adobe changed the file extention or something?
[13:28] <alison> so flash was broken...
[13:28] <ikonia> Agent_bob: symlink to what
[13:28] <samad909> ikonia: isnt there a fix available as launchpad for flash-9?
[13:28] <ikonia> alison: different version
[13:28] <ikonia> samad909: the fix is to manually download flash-10
[13:28] <Agent_bob> ikonia a shell of course
[13:28] <ikonia> samad909: as far as I'm aware
[13:28] <ikonia> Agent_bob: which one though
[13:28] <Agent_bob> dash or tcsh or bash   pick one
[13:28] <ikonia> Agent_bob: the shell it's linked to will reflect the potential risk of doing it
[13:29] <rik> Need help stealthing port 80 using iptables with no GUI interface. Anyone know the specifics on how the appropriate rule should be written?
[13:29] <ikonia> Agent_bob: well, linking bash to bash is pointless as thats the same thing, dash is minimal risk tcsh very different shell so not a good call
[13:29] <ikonia> rik: stealthing
[13:29] <ikonia> ?
[13:29] <samad909> ikonia: i saw a file saying flash9 and downloaded it, will install in a little or should i search adobe for flash10 for ubuntu?
[13:29] <Agent_bob> ikonia i tried moving /bin/bash and pointing to it with a link but it refuses to login that way
[13:29] <Omegacenti> I am not sure, but I think either my HD, or my controller, of my motherboard crashed. Need some help in troubleshooting to find out what went wrong.
[13:29] <ikonia> Agent_bob: your moving /bin/bash ?
[13:30] <ikonia> samad909: I wouldn't trust a flash-9 package that didn't come from adobe
[13:30] <Ar-ras> nk
[13:30] <Ar-ras> hi
[13:30] <ikonia> Agent_bob: can you execute the symlink manually ?
[13:30] <Agent_bob> ikonia yes
[13:30] <samad909> ikonia: adobe's site has the flash9 package for download on adobe/go/getflash
[13:30] <Ar-ras> I try to boot ubuntu from pxe
[13:30] <rik> ikonia: Testing ports using  https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[13:30] <ikonia> samad909: oog really, good find
[13:30] <Ar-ras> but it doesnt work
[13:31] <ikonia> samad909: although that maybe the same thing as what people (me) was refering to as "flash-10"
[13:31] <Ar-ras> and i dont wanna use netboot like in the wikie, because i wanna use it like the cd image
[13:31] <samad909> ikonia: alright it says Version: 9,0,115,0
[13:31] <Omegacenti> I am not sure, but I think either my HD, or my controller, of my motherboard crashed. Need some help in troubleshooting to find out what went wrong.
[13:31] <Agent_bob> ikonia it seems to be pam related.  i'll look into that.
[13:31] <ikonia> Agent_bob: so you've linked to it and you can do "/bin/bash" no problem, but scripts can't use #!/bin/bash ?
[13:31] <IdleOne> rik: port 80 is for web why do you want to "stealth" it?
[13:31] <ikonia> samad909: thats the borked version
[13:31] <Ar-ras> does somebody has an idea?
[13:31] <ikonia> samad909: thats what I was refering to as flash 10  (wrongly)
[13:32] <ikonia> Ar-ras: idea on what ?
[13:32] <samad909> ikonia: so this works? or broken?
[13:32] <ikonia> samad909: works, but not as good as the previous version (in my opinion)
[13:32] <Ar-ras> pxe booting ubuntu
[13:32] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: What symptoms are you seeing?
[13:32] <ikonia> Ar-ras: the wiki has a guide on it
[13:32] <samad909> ikonia: just installed ubuntu and got the net working after 8 hours so i guess i will have to go with it
[13:32] <_nmap> how can i install php pear in ubuntu?
[13:32] <jarle> There seems to be a problem after upgrading to latest version of Xorg. At least azureus is not working: "The program 'SWT' received an X Window System error." Anybody solved this yet?
[13:32] <asc> I need a 'run program' applet for the xfce panel. Does anybody know of one?
[13:33] <Ar-ras> ikonia give url please
[13:33] <IdleOne> asc: #zubuntu
[13:33] <ikonia> Ar-ras: you have it, you said you where reading it
[13:33] <IdleOne> asc: #xubuntu
[13:33] <IdleOne> sorry
[13:33] <ZionPsyfer> _nmap: package is 'php-pear'
[13:33] <Ar-ras> and please not the netboot, cause it wants to install ubuntu
[13:33] <Ar-ras> but i want to use it as live
[13:33] <ikonia> Ar-ras: netboot the cdimage rather than the netboot image
[13:33] <asc> IdleOne: Hm, sure. I'm not actually using the rest of Xfco though.
[13:34] <alinux-lb22> dansguardian slows down my browsing alot when I use it ..I have searched a lot it seems a common issue with no solution ..anyone had this issue before ?
[13:34] <rik> IdleOne: It appears stealthed when connected to my router, but if the router is removed from the picture it shows open to attack.
[13:34] <Ar-ras> ikonia i did but it seems that i make something wrong :(
[13:34] <W_McL> jarle, http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/146069/
[13:34] <Ar-ras> wait a moment
[13:34] <ikonia> Agent_bob: excellent find with pam, just found a few urls that show that too
[13:34] <ikonia> Agent_bob: pam_security appears to be the common module
[13:34] <W_McL> jarle, sorry, wrong link. #post4158788
[13:35] <W_McL> jarle, sorry, now it's the right one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4158788
[13:35] <juan_antonio> hi
[13:35] <Agent_bob> yep.   ok i'm out now. ikonia thanks again for the input.   and glad to see someone that is willing to help and not just say rtfm, even though it does get tempting.  ;/
[13:36] <IdleOne> rik:  not sure what to tell you. guess look at port forwarding
[13:36] <Agent_bob> ikonia ^
[13:36] <ikonia> Agent_bob: it looks like a well hidden module
[13:36] <ikonia> dig deep
[13:36] <ikonia> Agent_bob: your welcome
[13:36] <barnbarn> I have a nvidia chipset card and it kernel panics on boot (either liveCD or once installed (using the onboard graphics card), I've looked at the nvidia pages and this only mentions installing the binary drivers, well it doesn't get far enough to even let me do that, anyone have any ideas please?
[13:36] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer, I am hearing a low buzz and then a shorter high buzz from the harddrive, last night I created the workaround for hdd unload/load cycles as directed by launchpad seeing that I was getting 80+ loads/unloads on idle per minute on my SMART functions.
[13:36] <porkpie> ikonia:hi
[13:37] <juan_antonio> how to install .emerald themes?
[13:37] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: does SMART report anything odd?
[13:37] <ndee> hi there, I installed eclipse but it crashes on me, is eclipse broken at the moment?
[13:37] <JCDG> hello...
[13:37] <JCDG> is anyone there??
[13:37] <rik> IdleOne: That's what we have been doing with little success. Have you tried running the test at the grc site to see if you show all service ports stealthed?
[13:37] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer I can't even access S.M.A.R.T because of a bios error code 0200 fixed disk error which I cannot resolve with either google, or forums as to the exact nature of the failiure.
[13:38] <JackPhil> could smbclient connect to vista share folder?
[13:38] <ikonia> porkpie: hello
[13:38] <IdleOne> rik: I have not but I am behind a router also so I assume I would get similar results as you did
[13:38] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Unplugging the hdd resolves the 0200?
[13:38] <DRebellion> JackPhil: assuming that the shared folder uses samba, yes
[13:38] <JCDG> hi friends, i'm having some trouble with the scroll in my usb mouse, it jus doesn't work
[13:38] <porkpie> ikonia:hi .... have you ever setup pptp server
[13:39] <Omegacenti> I guess my main thing now is, what is a really good laptop (best money can buy atm) that fully supports ubuntu linux, and what is an afordable but popular laptop that also features full support of ubuntu.
[13:39] <ikonia> porkpie: not for a long term
[13:39] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer Yes it does, and I can boot a live cd after that.
[13:39] <JCDG> i've tried modifying the xorg but it still doesn't work
[13:39] <IdleOne> rik: are you running a web server ?
[13:39] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Thinkpads in general work great.
[13:39] <ikonia> Omegacenti: look in the hardware compatability list
[13:39] <ikonia> Omegacenti: just pick one with compatible hardware
[13:39] <rik> IdleOne: No
[13:40] <Omegacenti> ikonia I was looking for something more akin to a holy grail type compatibility :)
[13:40] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Alright then it's almost certainly the hdd.  Do you have an alternate that you can try to plug in?
[13:40] <nymtar> a propos thinkpads .. anyone knows if a thinkpad x22 can supply enough energy for a 108mbps wifi card?
[13:40] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer not atm.
[13:40] <ikonia> Omegacenti: well, just look at specs, I've seen IBM's Dells very good and very bad, so it's model speicific
[13:40] <IdleOne> rik: I mean port 80 is a common port and is needed for surfing . if I understand the internet and how it works
[13:40] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer this is the second harddrive that has crashed in this laptop :/
[13:40] <nymtar> dont want to buy one and my x22 doesnt have enough power
[13:41] <DRebellion> Omegacenti: best money can buy?! Build it yourself and make sure all of the components you put in are high quality and linux compatible.
[13:41] <Omegacenti> DRebellion A self built LAPTOP?!?!
[13:41] <Omegacenti> DRebellion That actually exists?!
[13:41] <JackPhil> DRebellion, samba is the default share mode of vista? You know, I tried some times, but failed.
[13:42] <DRebellion> JackPhil: well it is vista ;)
[13:42] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: Ouch!  one thing you can do is when you have ubuntu up and running next, install the 'smartmontools' package.  You can get SMART info from the disk. (sorry if you already knew that)
[13:42] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer no problem and I did :) thats how I got my load/unload cycle count increase/hr
[13:42] <neko_> hi
[13:42] <_nmap> ZionPsyfer: thanks man.
[13:42] <rosewater> hi
[13:42] <neko_> is someone did the recent update and use the aptana ide
[13:42] <juan_antonio> thespacebuttonstoppedworking
[13:42] <juan_antonio> !
[13:43] <ZionPsyfer> _nmap: Np. =)
[13:43] <neko_> and have it not working anymore :(
[13:43] <rosewater> how to make vim make automatic tabs?
[13:43] <Tnax87> hi everyone, i have a small problem with my soundcard. would be happy if someone could help me out.
[13:43] <Omegacenti> ZionPsyfer the problem now though is that I can't even boot a livecd with the harddrive in, because it doesn't boot all the way.
[13:43] <Rei-chan> Quick question: su does not require the executing user to be in group wheel on Ubuntu, correct?
[13:44] <Tnax87> i connected my external soundcard (a creative live usb) and disabled the intergrated soundcard in bios
[13:44] <l3ttuc3> is there something to unpack .rar files in linux?
[13:44] <neko_> yep
[13:44] <Omegacenti> General consensus of the ability of Gateway laptops to do with Ubuntu?  The one that just crashed 2 HDD's of mine = gateway.
[13:44] <IdleOne> !rar
[13:44] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[13:44] <Tnax87> but for some reason now i get sound in movies but not any system sound/mp3 or anything else
[13:44] <l3ttuc3> thanks.
[13:44] <makak__> hiya
[13:45] <Tnax87> when i test the output in the audiopreferenses i get sound
[13:45] <Tnax87> but nowere else
[13:45] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: I've had weirdness with bad hard drives causing like 2 minute delays for the POST, or 10 minute boot times from a CD.  A new hdd solved the problem.  I'm not sure if it was IRQ goofiness or just the system attempting ide resets so often that it borked other things... but I'd put money on the drive rather than the controller or mobo  as of right now.
[13:46] <Cromag> i am having trouble with vlc, when i open vlc, either via via cli or gui, it fails with a message "Cannot set locale """. When in cli i can see;  (process:8467): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library and .:8467): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. and last; Using the fallback 'C' locale. - I can not open any files with vlc. I have tried the "completely removal" with no success. Any ideas ?
[13:46] <risjh> hi, ubuntu livecd should have build-essential package by default
[13:47] <ikonia> Cromag: that looks like a language locale issue
[13:47] <zackie> help with SKYPE Voice... i can hear them.. they can' hear me... any suggestions?
[13:47] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:47] <ikonia> risjh: no it shouldn't
[13:47] <risjh> its a pain to downliad and install it for normal compiling to work
[13:47] <risjh> ikonia: why not?
[13:47] <ikonia> Ar-ras: I don't think you'll be able to use the physical cd image as that has hard device links in
[13:47] <risjh> i was thinking of using it in all the laptops in our uni
[13:47] <risjh> (ubuntu, i mean)
[13:47] <Cromag> ikonia: i once had a different lang, but it is set back to english. How would i check this ?
[13:47] <ikonia> risjh: because it's there it install ubuntu, not act as a compiling platofmr
[13:47] <ikonia> risjh: install ubuntu on your laptops
[13:48] <rosewater> VIM USERS: how to make vim make automatic tabs?
[13:48] <IdleOne> risjh: why would you need to compile anything from the livecd?
[13:48] <risjh> ikonia: then how to compile?
[13:48] <ikonia> Cromag: just let me ponder
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: install ubuntu onto the laptops
[13:48] <zackie> help with SKYPE Voice... i can hear them.. they can' hear me... any suggestions?
[13:48] <risjh> IdleOne: no, not the livecd, i mean the default install doesn't have build-essentials
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: then install build essential onto the laptop
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: so install it
[13:48] <ikonia> risjh: it's a one time install
[13:48] <risjh> ikonia: thats the problem, the wireless card in in all the laptops doesnt have drivers for linux
[13:48] <risjh> broadcom
[13:48] <risjh> and we dont have wired connection here
[13:48] <zackie> help with SKYPE Voice... i can hear them.. they can' hear me... any suggestions?
[13:48] <risjh> so, there is no way we can connec to the internet to install extra packages
[13:49] <ikonia> zackie: stop asking every 10 seconds plesase.
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: use a wired connetion
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: download ot a usb drive ?
[13:49] <l3ttuc3> risjh ndiswrapper and xp drivers?
[13:49] <risjh> ikonia: we dont have a wired one nearby :/
[13:49] <zackie> ikonia___ sorry haha....
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: use a usb device then
[13:49] <IdleOne> risjh: why do you need to compile from the default install. ubuntu is meant for " Regular User" not linux experts. that is why everything the regular user would need is packaged. so installing build-essential is wasted space on the install cd
[13:49] <risjh> l3ttuc3: thats how i maake it work now, but its a pain to do so in 200_ laptops
[13:49] <Ar-ras> ikonia any idea?
[13:49] <ikonia> risjh: thinkpads have drives, (did you say you where on thinkpads ?)
[13:49] <ikonia> Ar-ras: ideas for what ?
[13:50] <fourchan> sudo rm -fr / to solve it
[13:50] <l3ttuc3> risjh use scripts?
[13:50] <IdleOne> risjh: although if you need it you can install it from the repos :)
[13:50] <ikonia> fourchan: thats not funnd
[13:50] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:50] <ikonia> fourchan: NEVER say that
[13:50] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Check your mic settings both in skype and in ubuntu.  I haven't used Skype in linux, so that's about as much help as I can give.
[13:50] <ikonia> fourchan: that could dage a users machine
[13:50] <Omegacenti> Yep
[13:50] <ikonia> IdleOne: it's on the CD too I think
[13:50] <barnbarn> my fresh install kernel panics on /etc/init.d/udev being run, any ideas please?
[13:50] <Omegacenti> That is a nice ban.
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: have you looked if it's on the cd ?
[13:51] <zackie> zionpysyfer___It worked earlier... as well as recording but now.. not so much... heh
[13:51] <Rei-chan> Awesome, anonymous trolling #ubuntu
[13:51] <risjh_> sorry i was disconnected
[13:51] <Omegacenti> WTH was fourchan thinking? it is clearly in the etiquette of ubuntu NOT to say that.
[13:51] <ikonia> Omegacenti: ok - drop it
[13:51] <risjh_> sorry i was disconnected
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: have you tried installing it from the cd
[13:51] <IdleOne> ikonia: might be but does not need to be installed by default for the specific reason that everything a "Normal user" needs is pre-packaged
[13:51] <Omegacenti> My apologies ikonia
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: I think build essential is actually on the cd, just not installed ?
[13:51] <ikonia> risjh: download the ubuntu dvd and install from there
[13:51] <risjh_> ikonia: is it?
[13:51] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:51] <risjh_> yes that seems like an option
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: not certain about the cd - but certainly the dvd
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> Y0. I've just got my PC back from repairs... Grub loader doesn't show anymore, just goes straight to windows... Windows still shows partitions though.. Any advice?
[13:52] <risjh_> does edubuntu install it by default?
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: no - edubuntu is the same base as all the other ubuntus
[13:52] <Omegacenti> Alright ikonia, I am taking up your suggestion of looking for specs for different manufacturers of laptops, and ZionPsyfer, I will also be looking into thinkpads.
[13:52] <risjh_> its not about "normal users" we are university students
[13:52] <IdleOne> risjh: doubt it
[13:52] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Volume levels good?  Can you record things with Sound Recorder?
[13:52] <risjh_> who need to compile stuff as we are learning C/C++
[13:52] <risjh_> so i was wondering if it has it by default
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> Get GC++
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> [gcc]
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: no ubuntu  install does
[13:52] <Stevethepirate> sudo apt-get install gcc
[13:52] <risjh_> yeah, but we need build0essential to compile stuff
[13:52] <ikonia> risjh_: install the package from the dvd
[13:53] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:53] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: you've mised it all, he can't do that
[13:53] <zackie> zionpsyfer___now it gives me an error to check mulitmdia...
[13:53] <ZionPsyfer> Omegacenti: sounds good, ikonia has great advice.  A few hours of homework before the purchase can save a ton of headaches and work. =)
[13:53] <risjh_> ikonia: yeah i think, thats the only option
[13:53] <ikonia> Ar-ras: you can't use the cd image
[13:53] <Stevethepirate> Okay.. just trying to teh_helpzor
[13:53] <IdleOne> risjh: packages.ubuntu.com has all the packages you need if it is not on the cd
[13:53] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no problem, just saving you time
[13:53] <risjh_> ikonia: the thing is i have managed to convince several students to remove stupid windows and isntall ubuntu rather
[13:53] <risjh_> but when things dont work, its a shame :(
[13:53] <ikonia> risjh_: you may want to consider a mirror of the ubuntu-repo's onto your uni's lan and hardware it for future user
[13:53] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: quicker I can help others, quicker i can get my problem solved :P
[13:53] <jrib> risjh_: build-essential is on the cd, just not installed by default afaik
[13:53] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: what's up
[13:53] <risjh_> on the cd, sure?
[13:54] <ikonia> jrib: thats what I thought
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> "Seeing a 40 year old crack whore wearing a shirt saying "You can't afford me" and knowing she's probably right made me realize I'd hit rock bottom."
[13:54] <risjh_> jrib: sure?
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> whoops
[13:54] <zackie> zionpsyfer___now it gives me an error to check mulitmdia...
[13:54] <Ar-ras> ikonia i can boot netboot, but if i try to boot ubuntu iso content it sais kernel panic
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> quoting onesentence is fail
[13:54] <risjh_> talking about the cd, not the dvd
[13:54] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Any other programs using the sound card?
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> Y0. I've just got my PC back from repairs... Grub loader doesn't show anymore, just goes straight to windows... Windows still shows partitions though.. Any advice?
[13:54] <Stevethepirate> @ ikonia
[13:54] <ikonia> Ar-ras: I've told you - I don't believe you can use the cdimage iso
[13:54] <jrib> risjh_: last time I checked, yes.  But I have not needed it from 7.10, so I can't be sure.  Just pop in a CD and check
[13:54] <zackie> zionpsyfer___just skype....
[13:54] <ikonia> !grub > Stevethepirate
[13:54] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | Stevethepirate
[13:54] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:54] <risjh_> jrib: how to check?
[13:54] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: just re-apply grub (use the link ubotu sent you)
[13:54] <risjh_> jrib: apt-get install?
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: kk
[13:55] <risjh_> or apt-cache search
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> Another question then...
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> I've got 2 PC's
[13:55] <jrib> risjh_: are you on the live cd or an installed ubuntu?
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> Desktop and lappie.... i'm installing kubuntu on new lappie now.
[13:55] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: with you so far
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> I need to get almost the same packages on lappie.
[13:55] <IdleOne> !clone
[13:55] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:55] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: try these commands:  'lsof /dev/dsp'   and 'lsof /dev/snd/*'   That will tell you what's using OSS and ALSA.
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> Can i just take the .deb's from /var/cache or whatever
[13:55] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: just install what you want
[13:55] <Stevethepirate> and install
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: nah, not the best approach
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> Hmm.
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> They're identical CPU's
[13:56] <Cromag> ikonia: you look rather busy, should i try someone else? :)
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: you can do it if you want, but I don't like it
[13:56] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ i don't understand...?
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> Okay..
[13:56] <ikonia> Cromag: no problem, what's up
[13:56] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Sorry. >.<
[13:56] <Stevethepirate> its just, cap is a problem for us 3rd world peeps :P
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: understood
[13:56] <Cromag> same problem as before, vlc issue, maybe language issue.
[13:56] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: install as manay packages as possible from the cdrom
[13:57] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Do you have any audio players running?  Any video players?
[13:57] <zackie> zionpsyfer___It used to work now it doesn't what does that mean?
[13:57] <vlt> Hello. I'm looking for a tool to do the following: Showing presentation slides in fullscreen while controlling audio playback independently. The slides are partially animated but I could convert that sequences to video before if neccessary. For audio playback I need a "skip" button that crossfades the next track in. The xfade duration should be editable (two global values for fade in and fade out are enough). Any idea?
[13:57] <ikonia> Cromag: what does gnome tell you your language is set to
[13:57] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: yeah, we have a ubuntu mirror at uni.. just wanna hack some wifi before i return :P
[13:57] <zackie> zionpsyfer___ no other than skype
[13:57] <Cromag> ikonia: default is english /american.
[13:58] <ikonia> Cromag: not sure why vlc is looking at the wrong locale, try removing it with --purge and re-installing makes sure it has no legacy files then
[13:58] <ikonia> Cromag: thats a bit of a weak suggestion but I'm not great with vlc
[13:58] <soulrider> Does anyone know if hte latest xorg breaks anything? =/
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: that link you gave me.. allows manual editing of bootloader..
[13:59] <ZionPsyfer> zackie: Is skype telling you to check your multimedia settings?  Or was sound recorder the one complaining.
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: it also tells you how to apply grub
[13:59] <Cromag> ikonia: well, i tried removing "completely" via synaptic, which removes all that should have anything to do with vlc.
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> is there a automatic way? like, when i installed ubuntu first time.
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: sudo "grub"
[13:59] <zackie> zionpsyfer___the Recorder
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no, I don't trust the tools like "grub-install"
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> I do
[13:59] <ikonia> Cromag: I've no idea what vlc uses to work out the required locale
[13:59] <Stevethepirate> works fine
[13:59] <ikonia> Cromag: I'm not a user
[13:59] <jrib> risjh_: I have to go now for a bit, but others can help you check.  If you have the CD's repository enabled, then yes, you can try to apt-get it directly
[13:59] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: ok, use that then
[14:00] <Stevethepirate> so, i just do a sudo grub-install?
[14:00] <jakbeatz> It seems iptables is installed by default, but the hooks to load it on bootup aren't.  Is there a package to install the bootup hooks (init.d files, etc)?