[23:01] <McPeter> hi all
[23:03] <McPeter> just to inform "ships_" on #ubuntu insult me on #ubuntu-fr and now he write my real address on #ubuntu … (my real address is not a secret :) but it is a reason to write it on channel ? )


[21:55] <locodir-user> anyone actually in here?
[22:04] <daxroc> yes
[22:09] <zmoylan-pi> too late they left


[09:38] <holycow> Brooklyn_, there are small differences for which you refer to on the ubuntu website
[09:38] <AstralJava> :)
[09:38] <Brooklyn_> would those directions work
[09:38] <Brooklyn_> ahh ok
[09:38] <danko123456> ryman: yeah, which one
[09:39] <holycow> Brooklyn_, ignore that
[09:39] <danko123456> sometimes gnome-panel killall in terminal will get the app there.
[09:39] <holycow> Brooklyn_, do what i told you originally, copy rpm installer to desktop, alien -c maya.rpm, dpkg -i maya.deb
[09:39] <flex_> looks like its hard to get 32bit working on amd64 hoary and I cant even get dchroot with apt-get, how is it missing?
[09:39] <xealot> Anybody have any experience with a Abit KV-7 motherboard in ubuntu? im thinking about to get it but i need to know if SATA and stuff will work correctly unlike in slackware
[09:39] <nubbe> killall gnome-panel?
[09:39] <holycow> Brooklyn_, the rest should work without a hitch
[09:40] <AstralJava> Usually it's the case of a  missing or broken .desktop file in the package.
[09:40] <holycow> Brooklyn_, i'm assuming you have 3d accelerated drivers already installed of course
[09:40] <danko123456> nubbe: one of those.
[09:40] <Brooklyn_> ok thanks alot to everyone
[09:40] <AstralJava> ...and/or no menu item.
[09:40] <danko123456> ryman: what?
[09:40] <holycow> Brooklyn_, as in ati or nvidia drivers, if you don't solve that first before installing maya
[09:41] <Brooklyn_> I  still am deciding which distro to go with
[09:41] <Brooklyn_> I havent installed neither
[09:41] <holycow> you don't haveto go with any distro, try one first see if you like it
[09:41] <Brooklyn_> could you give me a compelling reason to use ubuntu over straight debain
[09:41] <ryman> danko123456|  , AstralJava , Gir__  sorry , the program is azureus
[09:41] <danko123456> well
[09:41] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: It has much better desktop support
[09:42] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: always has a much more up to date gnome
[09:42] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: very fast boot
[09:42] <AndreH> has anyone tried using kdevelop and the qt-designer? I want to edit a cpp file in the qt-designer, but I get the following error: "there is no plugin for editing c++ code installed"
[09:42] <holycow> what Lathiat as well you can BUY support for ubuntu as well
[09:42] <danko123456> http://ubuntuguide.org/#azureus
[09:42] <AndreH> kdevelop3-plugins is installed
[09:42] <ryman> danko123456|  thanks
[09:42] <danko123456> yeah..
[09:42] <Lathiat> AndreH: i think your supposed to open the /cpp in kdevelop, not qt designer...
[09:42] <danko123456> step 3 onward...
[09:43] <danko123456> bookmark ubuntuguide.org too ryman
[09:43] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: for example debian still has gnome 2.8 in unstable
[09:43] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: ubuntu has 2.10 in its latest stable release :)
[09:43] <ryman> thanks
[09:43] <AndreH> Lathiat: but there exists a plugin that allows me to edit cpp files in qt designer and I read some tutorials that use this function
[09:43] <danko123456> welcome
[09:43] <Lathiat> AndreH: no idea
[09:43] <Brooklyn_> ahh ok ... it is updated more often
[09:43] <zerokarmaleft> Brooklyn_, 6 month release cycle
[09:43] <danko123456> Brooklyn_: to get a complete picture...ask the debian guys too.
[09:43] <danko123456> if yiou can find them:P
[09:44] <Brooklyn_> what about gentoo, why ubuntu over gentoo
[09:44] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: its also much more integrated
[09:44] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: gentoo wastes time compiling everything
[09:44] <Lathiat> Brooklyn_: which isnt really needed
[09:44] <Lathiat> and its install process is not trivial
[09:44] <danko123456> ubuntu is a haven for beginners.
[09:44] <Lathiat> and an ubuntu system is much better maintained as random packages arent always installing random crap everywhere
[09:44] <danko123456> I mean,...stupid phrase.
[09:45] <danko123456> But, really it is easy.
[09:45] <Lathiat> (debian has the same advantage over gantoo there)
[09:45] <Lathiat> anyway im off to bed.
[09:45] <danko123456> good night
[09:45] <Lathiat> use ubuntu! (tm) <bed>
[09:45] <Delph> Lathiat: which removes choice. Which is the key advantage of gentoo.
[09:45] <Lathiat> Delph: it by no means removes choice
[09:45] <Delph> thou shalt use GNOME, and all that =:/
[09:45] <Lathiat> Delph: tell me how it does that
[09:45] <danko123456> hah
[09:45] <Lathiat> Delph: you can easily install any other desktop
[09:45] <danko123456> I dont have to use gnome
[09:45] <danko123456> its just good
[09:45] <Lathiat> Delph: and kde is even supported well with the kubuntu project
[09:46] <Lathiat> Delph: and you an just as easilyinstall xfce4
[09:46] <danko123456> yeah,..
[09:46] <Lathiat> or fluxbox
[09:46] <Delph> Lathiat: and I can use GTK apps without having the entire of GNOME installed on my hard disk?
[09:46] <Lathiat> or whatever
[09:46] <Sunny> Has anyone know where i can get KDE 3.4 package for Ubuntu?
[09:46] <Lathiat> Delph: Yes.
[09:46] <danko123456> any other too, you can use afterstep if you want
[09:46] <Delph> Lathiat: you sure?
[09:46] <Lathiat> Delph: positive.
[09:46] <crimsun> Sunny: for Hoary, in main
[09:46] <reuben> aha! fixed my resolution problem. i had to put the following lines in the Monitor section of xorg.conf:         HorizSync 31.5 - 150.0
[09:46] <reuben>         VertRefresh 40-75
[09:46] <danko123456> Sunny: synaptic>?
[09:46] <Delph> you sure there's not a depency on GNOME for lots of gtk apps?
[09:46] <reuben> later
[09:46] <Delph> as there's only one version of the package there?
[09:46] <Sunny> danko: yes.
[09:46] <Lathiat> Delph: various apps pull in various bits and pieces of the gnome stack
[09:46] <Delph> which is compiled against all the GNOME magic?
[09:46] <danko123456> congrats...reuben
[09:46] <holycow> Brooklyn_, the easiest way to answer that is to just try gentoo, and see, that particular example you will know the answer to in about 30 seconds
[09:46] <Delph> Lathiat: exactly. When they don't need to.
[09:46] <Lathiat> Delph: you'd pull in just as much with gentoo
[09:46] <Sunny> hmm.
[09:47] <Brooklyn_> :)
[09:47] <osh> anyone know a good read about ubuntu and wireless? don't see anything good on their site. It stops working when I add WEP. :-/
[09:47] <Lathiat> Delph: or any other distro
[09:47] <Delph> Lathiat: no i wouldn't. I'd pull in the gtk libraries and no parts of GNOME the desktop.
[09:47] <danko123456> Sunny: is it in your synaptic?
[09:47] <holycow> Brooklyn_, and just try the distros your self, asking for opinion sometimes just leads to more confusion, kinda like explaining to people how to ride a bike, sometimes you just gotta do it
[09:47] <Sunny> oh, also. does Ubuntu auto update itself?
[09:47] <Lathiat> Delph: Wrong.
[09:47] <Delph> Lathiat: right.
[09:47] <Lathiat> Delph: depends how you define gnome desktop
[09:47] <Sunny> danko: not the last time i checked?
[09:47] <danko123456> no, it does not, Sunny
[09:47] <Sunny> arse.
[09:47] <osh> Sunny: there is a "update" tool availible though.
[09:47] <Delph> Lathiat: the gnome panel, background processes, font rendering, HID layers and so on.
[09:47] <Sunny> Oooo.
[09:47] <Sunny> Osh: Where could I aquire it?
[09:47] <Psoulocybe> it can very easily sunny...
[09:48] <danko123456> Sunny: what do you want to get done?
[09:48] <Lathiat> Delph: its good to have gconf, g-s-d
[09:48] <Lathiat> Delph: gnoe panel is not needed
[09:48] <Psoulocybe> i believe ubuntuguide.org has a walkthrough
[09:48] <Lathiat> Delph: unless you install a panel applet
[09:48] <Brooklyn_> thanks everyone
[09:48] <Brooklyn_> later
[09:48] <Delph> g-s-d ?
[09:48] <Lathiat> Delph: i dunno what font renderin gyour talkign about it
[09:48] <Lathiat> Delph: (gnome-settings-daemon)
[09:48] <danko123456> bbye
[09:48] <osh> Sunny: I found it next to synaptic in the gnome menu.
[09:48] <Lathiat> its not needed, but makes gtk apps a little nicer
[09:48] <Delph> Lathiat: I don't need either; it's called vim and a text file.
[09:48] <Sunny> Osh: what version Ubuntu you running?
[09:48] <Lathiat> Delph: That wasn't your point
[09:48] <Delph> Lathiat: the original point still stands.
[09:48] <Lathiat> Delph: If your going to be a troll about this you can go drop yourself off a cliff and do us all a favour, bye.
[09:49] <osh> Sunny: currently kubuntu-live. still trying to get my wireless card to accept encryption...
[09:49] <danko123456> he is being a troll
[09:49] <danko123456> :))
[09:49] <Sunny> ahh.
[09:49] <danko123456> C:)
[09:49] <Delph> Lathiat: right; whatever. *goes to find the package dependencies that demonstrate this*
[09:49] <Sunny> Im running 4.0 something.
[09:49] <Sunny> ubuntu
[09:49] <osh> Sunny: hoary?
[09:49] <Lathiat> Delph: don't bother im going to bed, you go play with yourself in a corner or something :)
[09:49] <holycow> anyone here have a ubuntu host > vmware > ubuntu guest install setup happening?
[09:49] <danko123456> 4.11 is warty
[09:49] <Sunny> Yes
[09:50] <danko123456> 5.04 is hoary
[09:50] <Sunny> I'd like 5.04
[09:50] <Lathiat> danko123456: 4.10 wasnt it?
[09:50] <crimsun> Lathiat: yes
[09:50] <Sunny> I'm waiting for my 40 CD's :)
[09:50] <danko123456> rught
[09:50] <danko123456> i dont know why 11...
[09:50] <Lathiat> holycow: Yep
[09:50] <Sunny> 4.10 < -- mine :)
[09:50] <danko123456> what are you gonna do with 40?
[09:50] <Sunny> Dunno.
[09:50] <Sunny> Already got 30 4.10
[09:50] <Lathiat> danko123456: frisbees! :)
[09:50] <danko123456> haha
[09:50] <danko123456> awesome
[09:50] <Sunny> 40 5.04 will be nice :)
[09:50] <danko123456> good use
[09:50] <holycow> Lathiat, did you have any trouble with xorg after installing vmware tools?
[09:51] <daba> DaBa
[09:51] <Lathiat> holycow: never installed vmware tools
[09:51] <osh> Sunny: Have a look at the ubuntu site. It'll tell you how to update. Just change a few lines in synaptic and press update. It should work as a charm.
[09:51] <Psoulocybe> i think i'm getting 10 of each version of hoary
[09:51] <flex_> is there a ubuntu amd64 room?
[09:51] <Lathiat> holycow: its not really needed on linux
[09:51] <Sunny> osh: thanks mate :)
[09:51] <Psoulocybe> god flex, i wish there was
[09:51] <Lathiat> holycow: the vmware video driver is packed in xorg
[09:51] <Psoulocybe> i'd be there
[09:51] <holycow> Lathiat, oh really?
[09:51] <Lathiat> holycow: yeh
[09:51] <holycow> frick
[09:51] <holycow> heh
[09:51] <Lathiat> holycow: should even be automatically detected on install if its hoary
[09:51] <Psoulocybe> i'm a big fan of getting people to try the live CD... i had 10 warty cds and actually got 4 people to go w/ ubuntu from it
[09:51] <daba> Sunny: how fast is yor internet?
[09:52] <Lathiat> (i had to get that fixed during hoary dev process, but it should be fine with anything near the end)
[09:52] <Sunny> daba: 2mbps
[09:52] <daba> thats good.
[09:52] <mishof> Once i restart my samba server, i cant access the network for a few minutes (then i think it start working) - is it normal ?
[09:52] <Lathiat> Psoulocybe: sweet. :)
[09:52] <Sunny> wireless :)
[09:52] <Sunny> :P
[09:52] <holycow> i tried vmware tools as it wouldn't resize resolution properly ... okay another reinstall, thanks for the info
[09:52] <osh> Sunny: Don't mention it. Good luck.
[09:52] <daba> You should apt-get upgrade.
[09:52] <shido6> sweet
[09:52] <shido6> I got it working
[09:52] <daba> dist upgrade...
[09:52] <shido6> thanks
[09:52] <Psoulocybe> flex_  have you found any good resources for ubuntu A64?
[09:52] <shido6> people
[09:52] <daba> after changing sources...
[09:52] <Lathiat> holycow:  make sure its using the vmware driver in xorg.conf
[09:52] <shido6> 3ddeskstop works 686-smp
[09:52] <daba> youll get the 3.4 kde, porbably...
[09:52] <Lathiat> holycow: also what problem are you having at the moment?
[09:52] <daba> I think mine is...
[09:52] <mishof> ahhh this is going way too fast... anyone knows about samba ?
[09:52] <shido6> using x-chat tho it seems my keyboard buffer is toast...
[09:52] <daba> lots of the related packages have 3.4 in the version number.
[09:52] <Lathiat> (post vmware tools install)
[09:53] <Lathiat> mishof: Ummm, that could happen in theory ig uess
[09:53] <shido6> I type faster than it can repeat the keys on the creen
[09:53] <shido6> screen
[09:53] <Lathiat> mishof: you don't restart samba very often right? :)
[09:53] <holycow> Lathiat, xorg crashes with: cannot open mouse
[09:53] <Lathiat> holycow: oh, fix your xorg config :)
[09:53] <daba> Sunny: upgrade to hoary from apt.
[09:53] <Lathiat> holycow: shoudl be pointing at /dev/input/mice
[09:53] <Lathiat> or just reinstall :)
[09:53] <daba> Just clean out your sources.lst.
[09:53] <mishof> Lathiat, hmm no, but i just did and now i cant acess anything :( i think it might work in a few minutes but im not sure
[09:53] <Lathiat> holycow: but
[09:53] <daba> Just leave the ubuntu ones.
[09:53] <Lathiat> holycow: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:53] <daba> remove debian, and sourceforge iif you ahve it,.
[09:53] <Lathiat> holycow: should regen xorg config from defaults
[09:53] <Lathiat> holycow: might have to run the md5sum command listed at the time of /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that to work
[09:54] <holycow> Lathiat, lol thats why i'm asking that is the standard xorg config, tried /dev/psaux just incase ... still crash. tried disabling mouse even
[09:54] <Sunny> switching to Ubuntu :)
[09:54] <Sunny> what's this irc thing again?
[09:54] <daba> Lathiat: werent you going to bed?
[09:54] <Sunny> addy
[09:54] <holycow> oh okay thats awesome didn't know the regen thingy
[09:54] <Lathiat> daba: yeh i was
[09:54] <Lathiat> these people who need helps are distracting me :)
[09:54] <shido6> Sunnny I  just switched...  :)
[09:54] <Sunny> :(
[09:54] <Lathiat> i'm trying to leave honest :)
[09:54] <shido6> whats up with my keyboard buffffeeer now???
[09:54] <daba> well hand over all your helps...
[09:54] <daba> and that...
[09:54] <holycow> lol Lathiat
[09:54] <daba> :p
[09:54] <holycow> thanks for the help dude
[09:54] <Lathiat> holycow: nps
[09:54] <Lathiat> im out
[09:55] <Lathiat> 4am is not good for the soul
[09:55] <Lathiat> i have work to finish tomorrow
[09:55] <daba> not at all
[09:55] <Lathiat> and a couple projects to hack on
[09:55] <holycow> later :)
[09:55] <daba> your soul is taking a hit
[09:55] <Lathiat> yeh its bad i know
[09:55] <Psoulocybe> 4am is good for the Psoul though
[09:55] <Psoulocybe> :D
[09:55] <Lathiat> i take one for the team.
[09:55] <Lathiat> i just wish i could have made it to ubuntu down under
[09:55] <Lathiat> so much stuff i want to input on :\
[09:55] <Lathiat> sigh
[09:55] <Lathiat> anyway
[09:56] <Lathiat> off!
[09:56] <daba> heh, psoul...
[09:57] <mburns> anyone ever try to install Bastille on Ubuntu?
[09:58] <flex_> amd64 ubuntu doesnt come with ia32 libs??
[09:58] <Psoulocybe> apt-get install ia32
[09:58] <Lathiat> flex_: nope, but make sure you isntall it from the package and not soe random source or soetign :)
[09:58] <flex_> what about dchroot
[09:58] <flex_> apt-get cant find it
[09:59] <cn|tux> you must add resproriites
[09:59] <flex_> yeah like media, how do you do that?
[09:59] <flex_> howto or something?
[09:59] <Lathiat> flex_: need to add the universe repository
[09:59] <mjr> ia32 libs are present, but not usable by default; dchroot is in universe
[09:59] <Lathiat> flex_: hoary?
[09:59] <Lathiat> flex_: go into respostiroeies -> add, eslect universe
[09:59] <daba> flex_: ubuntuguide.org
[09:59] <flex_> yes hoary
[09:59] <mjr> (by default I mean that the programs must be linked against them spesifically)
[09:59] <Lathiat> flex_: (in synaptic)
[09:59] <Marble2> how can I view the ram usage of a specific proces without using top
[09:59] <daba> there is a howto for adding those repos
[10:00] <flex_> www.ubuntuguide.org will tell me what synaptic is?
[10:00] <Marble2> flex_: it's the GUI for apt-get
[10:00] <flex_> oh
[10:00] <Simon_> hi all im back
[10:00] <daba> ubuntuguide.org
[10:01] <daba> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:01] <bluefoxicy> why the FUCK is there a parakeet perching on an erection in my buffer?
[10:01] <LiquidAir> hey
[10:01] <sewoyl> hi!!
[10:01] <LiquidAir> hey
[10:02] <bluefoxicy> we need halfops and chains of trust.
[10:02] <Beuno> hey, Ive been going crazy trying to share internet to my noetwork from an ubuntu hoary "server", everything else works great, just cant seem to get around that
[10:02] <Beuno> I got shorewall
[10:02] <Beuno> configures and running
[10:02] <Beuno> configured
[10:03] <Beuno> got ip_forwarding enabled
[10:03] <Beuno> DHCP os working great
[10:03] <Beuno> but no internet
[10:03] <Beuno> :(
[10:03] <Beuno> any ideas?
[10:03] <Delph> Lathiat: ok, concrete example: gtoaster depends on libgnome32, liborbit0, libgnomesupport, etc etc. grab the source; configure it with --without-gnome and it's running happily.
[10:04] <daba> is Lathiat still here?
[10:04] <sewoyl> how do I add multiverse to my apt repositories?
[10:04] <digitalfox> bluefoxicy, hi
[10:04] <daba> sewoyl: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:04] <Lathiat> Delph: so send a patch for gtoaster to build a second non-gnome package. thats a case of broken packaging.
[10:04] <sewoyl> daba, thanks! :)
[10:04] <Delph> Lathiat: yes. They're *all* broken.
[10:04] <Beuno> can anyone point me at least into some direction?
[10:04] <Beuno> worn off google already
[10:04] <Lathiat> at the end of the day
[10:04] <Lathiat> it really doesnt matter
[10:04] <Lathiat> or hurt
[10:04] <bluefoxicy> urban:  Hey
[10:05] <Lathiat> if you want to be pedantic
[10:05] <Lathiat> go run gentoo
[10:05] <Delph> upwards of 60-80% of 'GNOME' apps have dependencies you don't need.
[10:05] <Simon_> hi all
[10:05] <Lathiat> its made for you
[10:05] <Lathiat> Delph: they are perfectly needed and make the applications much more usefull if you run gnome
[10:05] <Delph> Lathiat: exactly. Just pointing out to you that you're spouting a bit by saying that it's needed.
[10:05] <Delph> Lathiat: s/need/require/
[10:05] <synd> im having some sound problems
[10:05] <synd> sometimes it works, sometimes it donw
[10:05] <synd> dont*
[10:05] <Lathiat> Delph: they are required for a ncie general desktop
[10:05] <bluefoxicy> urban:  Check out bug 10109
[10:05] <Lathiat> Delph: unless you wan tot be pedantic
[10:06] <Lathiat> Delph: having those gnome libraries installed really doesn't hurt
[10:06] <sewoyl> daba, oh, I'm still in warty
[10:06] <Lathiat> Delph: in most cases
[10:06] <Lathiat> Delph: in fact i dont know of any case its bad
[10:06] <Delph> Lathiat: it's worse with KDE, because you actually have to have them all running in the background.
[10:06] <sewoyl> daba, dont have those lines in that file
[10:06] <Lathiat> (other than being pedantic)
[10:06] <synd> i switched to ALSA a few days ago and not sure if i got everything right
[10:06] <hksdu> Anyeone here installed the proprietory nVidia driver for Ubuntu? Any 2D performance difference from the X.Org one?
[10:06] <daba> well, more the reason to make it as it says there.
[10:06] <daba> sewoyl:
[10:06] <digitalfox> bluefoxicy, link me to it, I'm lazy
[10:07] <Marble2> how can I view the ram usage of a specific proces without using top?
[10:07] <bean> hi guys
[10:08] <bean> i got a problem
[10:08] <shido6> i think its because I didnt set the memory size when setting up the stupid driver
[10:08] <bean>  iam new here and got this message
[10:08] <bean>  ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[10:08] <bean> root@grovestand:/home/bean # dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[10:08] <bean> dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb (--install):
[10:08] <bean>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[10:08] <Beuno> hey, Ive been going crazy trying to share internet to my network from an ubuntu hoary "server", everything else works great, just cant seem to get around that. I installed shorewall and did the IPTABLES MASQ, any ideas?
[10:08] <synd> bean: dont flood
[10:08] <synd> bean: use #flood
[10:08] <daba> sewoyl: for warty...ad this line, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:09] <daba> re[place hoary with warty
[10:09] <sewoyl> daba, ok i found it too :) thanks for your time i appreciate it
[10:09] <daba> welcome
[10:09] <synd> how do i kill ALSA?
[10:09] <xealot> Anybody have any experience with a Abit KV-7 motherboard in ubuntu? im thinking about to get it but i need to know if SATA and stuff will work correctly unlike in slackware
[10:09] <Simon_> rmmod ur alsa modules
[10:09] <shido6>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:09] <shido6> again
[10:09] <synd> Simon_: ?
[10:10] <Simon_> synd paste me in a conv ur lsmod
[10:10] <Marble2> how do I disable a service that is loading at startup atm?
[10:10] <shido6> Enter the amount of memory (in kB) to be used by your video card.
[10:10] <shido6> i have 128 MB so how many kB is that?
[10:10] <Psoulocybe> xealot, people are still buying socket A stuff?
[10:10] <Psoulocybe> I thought you had to buy socket939 these days ;)
[10:11] <xealot> Psoulocybe: they are. Allthough i would still need an answer
[10:11] <crimsun> Marble2: man update-rc.d
[10:11] <pixil9> Marble2, find it in /etc/init.d (ie cron) type: update-rc.d -f cron remove
[10:11] <Psoulocybe> well, i don't
[10:11] <pixil9> shido: 128000
[10:11] <Psoulocybe> i can tell you ubuntu had no problem w/ my SATA install
[10:11] <Psoulocybe> it has more to do w/ how the motherboard emulates IDE before SATA drivers are installed
[10:12] <Marble2> thanks pixil9
[10:12] <LinuxJones> shido6, 128 MB = 131072
[10:13] <Marble2> now, does anyone know how I can view the ram usage of a specific proces without using top?
[10:13] <shido6> thanks
[10:13] <shido6> rebooting
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> xealot : it wont work, also in slackware use the sata.i kernel to install ect
[10:13] <lyy> how do i check to see if qt is installed on my system?
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> bleh
[10:13] <hksdu> anyone here is using nVidia proprietory driver? any 2D performance notice? between I am using X.Org nVidia driver and the 2D performance is not so great as I am using GF2 MX400 64MB
[10:14] <sewoyl> i thought I'd found dvdcss on there
[10:14] <lyy> i did a dpkg -l | grep qt* and it wasn't helpful.
[10:14] <LinuxJones> lyy, what are you trying to run ?
[10:14] <Marble2> lyy: dpkg -S qt
[10:14] <lyy> LinuxJones: i'm trying to run a qt app i wrote.
[10:14] <holycow> hksdu, big difference every time i install nvidia drivers...
[10:14] <holycow> vesa is livable, but imho there is no comparison between the two
[10:14] <LinuxJones> lyy, if your running KDE you probably already have it installed
[10:15] <kkathman> greetings all :)
[10:15] <lyy> LinuxJones: good point. how do i detect that i got kde?
[10:15] <hksdu> holycow, so you mean the proprietory one is much faster?
[10:15] <lyy> what's the kde package called?
[10:15] <LinuxJones> lyy, ummm
[10:15] <holycow> hksdu, every time i've installed them, yes huge difference
[10:15] <LinuxJones> lyy, did you install ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[10:15] <lyy> ubuntu
[10:16] <hksdu> holycow, can I install from universe/munltiverse? or I have to install by downloading the driver from nvidia site?
[10:16] <cyklus> is there any way to make my laptop suspend to disk when it runs low on batteries?
[10:16] <LinuxJones> lyy, you can install kde by typing sudo apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <lyy> i see
[10:17] <LinuxJones> lyy, one your have downloaded and installed everything ok. Just logout of Gnome and select KDE under session
[10:17] <lyy> is there a package i can install without installing the whole kde desktop?
[10:17] <holycow> hksdu, both, but it is recommended to install from universe because it is easy to uninstall them as well using apt/dpkg/whatever
[10:17] <holycow> hksdu, the instructions are on the ubuntu website, search for binary drivers nvidia or some such
[10:17] <Sunneh> finally
[10:17] <Sunneh> bloody mIRC
[10:18] <hksdu> holycow, when I search in there, I don't see proprietory driver though...okay...thank you.
[10:18] <LinuxJones> lyy, I guess it depends on what your app is doing, but if your developing KDE apps it's best to do it from within the KDE Desktop
[10:18] <zhukov_> hello!
[10:18] <mburns> Bastille Linux fails on Ubuntu
[10:18] <holycow> hksdu, its there, i just don't have the link onhand
[10:18] <zhukov_> Is it possible to install windows after ubuntu, and still be able to boot both??
[10:18] <Lare2> Q? any good app for dealing with "par2" files
[10:19] <Nalioth> lyy you can install any app you like, but if apt thinks you need some other kde stuff, it'll come too
[10:19] <thisistheplace> Is there a way to change the default dhcp agent that Ubuntu uses?
[10:19] <Nalioth> zhukov_, i believe that windoze eats MBRs
[10:19] <mburns> it does
[10:19] <hksdu> holycow, thank you very much..let me try
[10:19] <zhukov_> right...but is it possible to solve that?
[10:19] <Sunny> anyone know how to change the bootloader that comes with Ubuntu 4.10 to make Windows first choice?
[10:20] <LinuxJones> thisistheplace, your networking is not working ?
[10:20] <zhukov_> Sunny, apt-get install grubconf and run it then as sudo. You can change that there
[10:20] <Sunny> Grub  - that's it.
[10:20] <thisistheplace> No, it works fine; I just want to use a DHCP client that offers more flexibility than dhclient.
[10:20] <Sunny> oh crap
[10:20] <KBJ> if you want to let windows' own bootloader take over and it's a windows 9x, you can boot dos and run "fdisk /mbr"
[10:20] <Sunny> screen just went black
[10:21] <Sunny> KBJ: yeah, know that thanks.
[10:21] <Sunny> :O
[10:21] <shido6> hey thanks again
[10:21] <KBJ> :)
[10:21] <ttrout> Sunny, you can also edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:21] <pixil9> blah i need a pirated copy of opera
[10:21] <Sunny> ahh
[10:21] <shido6> I got my video memory workin
[10:21] <crimsun> Simon_: an important email?
[10:21] <Sunny> The easy wat.
[10:21] <Sunny> *way
[10:21] <Sunny> Thanks.
[10:21] <shido6> I set it to 128000
[10:21] <zhukov_> Anyone knows how install windows after ubuntu???
[10:21] <lsuactiafner> Sunny : if you have lilo installed then edit /etc/lilo.conf
[10:21] <Simon_> crimsun, yes an important email
[10:21] <Sunny> Grub here :)
[10:21] <Sunny> :P
[10:21] <bur[n] er> pixil9: pay for it
[10:21] <shido6> and it works GREAT!
[10:21] <lsuactiafner> add the line Default = whatever
[10:21] <crimsun> Simon_: waiting for a signature?
[10:21] <shido6> Im lovin this distro
[10:22] <thisistheplace> More importantly, I would like to keep '/etc/resolv.conf' immutable, because there are several important name servers which I must use; however, the problem is that dhclient freezes on boot when /etc/resolv.conf is immutable, which is obvious. I just want to use some client that will not update /etc/resolv.conf
[10:22] <Simon_> crimsun,  signature ????
[10:22] <pixil9> You can fix the MBR in recovery console too
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> where whatever is label = Windows
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> or something
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> so in the end you wil get Default = Windows
[10:22] <pixil9> just type ficmbr
[10:22] <crimsun> Simon_: n/m
[10:22] <pixil9> fixmbr
[10:22] <Simon_> crimsun, can i msg u ?
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> and then run /sbin/lilo
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> or you will be fscked
[10:22] <shido6> fixmbr ( break out the windows xp cd )
[10:22] <crimsun> Simon_: if necessary, yes
[10:22] <zhukov_> thisistheplace, sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[10:22] <lsuactiafner> and /sbin/lilo -M /dev/disk with lilo.conf on it
[10:23] <zhukov_> pixil9, but how can i start the console??
[10:23] <pussfeller> you could append   cat resolve.conf_1 >> resolv.conf in a startup script :)
[10:23] <pixil9> zhukov_, like he said.. cd
[10:23] <zhukov_> how ok
[10:23] <pixil9> or there's a way to enable it in bootup options through windows
[10:23] <zhukov_> pixil9, liveCD right?
[10:23] <Simon_> crimsun, it is lol orelse ill be flooding
[10:23] <LinuxJones> thisistheplace, why not just put then in /etc/hosts
[10:23] <pixil9> huh
[10:23] <lsuactiafner>  /sbin/lilo -M /dev/disk writes a new MBR
[10:23] <pixil9> the xp install cd
[10:23] <thisistheplace> zhukov_: I did that; it is just that dhclient will not let the system boot any further when it is immutable, for it attempts to overwrite the file, causing the application to wait and prompt the user.
[10:23] <LinuxJones> thisistheplace, err them
[10:24] <lsuactiafner> zhukov_ : try typing reset in the console to reset the console
[10:24] <Lare2> Q? any good app for dealing with "par2" files
[10:24] <zhukov_> thisistheplace, ubuntuguide.org -> disable the network start and start it manually ( sudo ifup eth1 for example)
[10:24] <Sunny> I dunno if i asked this earlier, but in the KDE 3.2 environment, how would I update to KDE 3.4 (if there is a way?)
[10:24] <PHPWannabe> Does anyone know how to make thunderbird your default email program?
[10:24] <lsuactiafner> or type w in a working console, get the tty thats broken, ps aux | grep broken_tty and kill -HUP pid_of_broken_tty
[10:24] <pixil9> Just use dhclient.con
[10:24] <pixil9> f
[10:24] <thisistheplace> I would not have to do any of this, were Ubuntu to support alternative dhcp agents.
[10:24] <pixil9> and ask for what you want.
[10:24] <pixil9> man dhclient.conf
[10:25] <pixil9> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
[10:25] <pixil9>                 domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name;
[10:25] <thisistheplace> From what I saw, dhclient.conf would not control whether it writes to /etc/resolv.conf
[10:25] <zhukov_> pixil9, r  sure i can configure that in the xp install cd? Before the installation?
[10:25] <pussfeller> the conf seems to indicate that it does
[10:25] <pixil9> Are you trying to clear the mbr?
[10:25] <Nalioth> Lare2, hmmm would that be "par2"?
[10:25] <lyy> anyone have kde on their ubuntu system?
[10:25] <pixil9> I don't know if you can get into the recovery console without an installation on ur HD
[10:25] <Sunny> me
[10:26] <lyy> anyone have kde on their ubuntu system? if so, can you do a 'locate libqt-mt.so3' and then tell me what application owns it?
[10:26] <nonicklikenonick> so.. i'm using a fluxbox style that explicitly asks for "*.font: snap", but fluxbox isn't using it.. what gives?
[10:26] <cyklus> is there any way to make my laptop suspend to disk when it runs low on batteries?
[10:26] <lsuactiafner> pixil9 : boot a live cd
[10:26] <pixil9> My laptop does that
[10:27] <pixil9> well my p166 does lol
[10:27] <Sunny> Did any of you find HD partitioning hard in the provided Ubuntu setup?
[10:27] <lyy> Sunny: did you say you have kde?
[10:27] <Sunny> I had to use a Knoppix live cd to partition
[10:27] <lsuactiafner> p166 > all
[10:27] <zhukov_> pixil9, i do want to install, and i can acess the winxp console after installation. So what you'r saying is that it is possible
[10:27] <Sunny> Iyy, yes but I can't do anything atm, sorry :(
[10:27] <lsuactiafner> am ircing from one atm..
[10:27] <lyy> ok
[10:28] <pixil9> I think if you just install windows it overwrites the mbr automatically.
[10:28] <Xappe> yes it does
[10:28] <zhukov_> yes it does
[10:28] <nonicklikenonick> yep
[10:28] <zhukov_> but after that
[10:28] <pixil9> ...
[10:28] <zhukov_> how do i recover the mbr?
[10:28] <nonicklikenonick> boo windows and it's mbr ownership
[10:28] <pixil9> oh.
[10:28] <pixil9> You want to get back into ubuntu heh
[10:28] <shido6> should I use a framebuffer?
[10:28] <nonicklikenonick> reinstall a bootloader to the mbr
[10:29] <ttrout> the debian partitioning setup was a little awkward; I prefer fdisk. Although, my partitions were already setup from my previous install of gentoo...just formatted and remounted them...
[10:29] <nonicklikenonick> that's why you should always install windows first on a dual-boot system
[10:29] <Sunny> Ahh. Nice
[10:29] <zhukov_> yes! Ubunru is my main OS, but windows is now completly unusable, and need to be reinstaled (no network connections)
[10:29] <MegamanX11> Windows is usable
[10:29] <MegamanX11> but not ideal
[10:29] <zhukov_> *ubuntu
[10:29] <hksdu> holycow, I have it installed but how do I know if I am using that driver?
[10:29] <lsuactiafner> ttrout : cfdisk > all
[10:29] <MegamanX11> ubuntu does have much better hardware detection though
[10:29] <Sunny> Windows is my main OS atm. Ubuntu is good for weekends ;)
[10:30] <phweak> Does anyone know the name of the app that allows you to share a mouse and keyboard over a network?
[10:30] <pixil9> hmm
[10:30] <pixil9> I'd say make a boot floppy and rewrite the mbr back in ubuntu
[10:30] <GammaRay> MegamanX11: how would you know if his install is usable?
[10:30] <Xappe> zhukov_: i would assume it's something like chroot into the ubuntu root pratition from a live cd and reinstall grub from there
[10:30] <holycow> hksdu, you can check and see if yoru /etc/X11/xorg.conf file has the 'nvidia' driver instead of 'nv', or when you restartx you get an nvidia logo on the front
[10:30] <ttrout> lsauctiafner : thanks...
[10:30] <pixil9> ya that works too
[10:30] <holycow> i'm sure there is a command line way to check just not sure
[10:30] <zhukov_> Xappe, hm ok
[10:30] <DavidF> Does anyone know if the ShipIt CD is a Live CD or just an Install CD?
[10:30] <LinuxJones> phweak, you mean to control mouse/keyboard over a network ?
[10:30] <zhukov_> pixil9, laptop, no floppy drive...
[10:30] <Sunny> BOTH
[10:31] <MegamanX11> Well thats the thing, he was talking about Windows in general, if you are not administrating it correctly, or you dont have virus detection, it is unusable sure enough, but I am assuming he is talking about a competent user
[10:31] <LinuxJones> phweak, >>http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ ;)
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> hksdu : your nick is terrible, look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i remeber your original question correctly, you want Driver          "nvidia" in there not "nv"
[10:31] <Sunny> Both CD'
[10:31] <Sunny> s
[10:31] <pixil9> Well do the livecd then?
[10:31] <Xappe> zhukov_: don't ask me exactly how though, cause i've never done it
[10:31] <phweak> LinuxJones: thats the one. thanks.
[10:31] <MegamanX11> I prefer ubuntu myself
[10:31] <LinuxJones> phweak, it's in the universe repository btw
[10:31] <MegamanX11> its my primary OS
[10:31] <DavidF> Sunny, they send both? That's perfect... I have limited HD space. :)
[10:31] <Sunny> :)
[10:31] <zhukov_> Xappe, i can then search a bit, and try...The problem is that I CANNOT in anyway loose this ubuntu!!
[10:32] <nonicklikenonick> anyone know why fluxbox insists on using these huge fonts?
[10:32] <phweak> LinuxJones: excellent.
[10:32] <Sunny> Well, both for x86 machines, anyway
[10:32] <GammaRay> MegamanX11: umm no he was not he was talking about his specific install. othewrwise why would be need to reinstall it?
[10:32] <Xappe> zhukov_: you shpuldn't have to
[10:32] <pixil9> There is a way to use the windows bootloader..
[10:32] <hksdu> holycow, it is using nv, then do I change it manually? or I use synaptics to change?
[10:32] <DavidF> That's fine, I have an HP with Intel. Decided to give Linux a try, and Ubuntu's price is definitely right. :)
[10:32] <Xappe> zhukov_: and you CAN use the windows bootloader if everything else fails
[10:32] <hksdu> lsuactiafner, hehe..my nick is short though
[10:32] <MegamanX11> then it that case, i would say that Linux is a better alternative, Windows needs to have its hand held a lot
[10:32] <ttrout> I am trying out Ubuntu, was primarily using Gentoo at work...I use OS X on my laptop...no windows...ick! ;)
[10:32] <Sunny> Lol. I'm a near n00b. I wanted a challange :)
[10:33] <holycow> hksdu, change it to nvidia manually with sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... and save
[10:33] <Sunny> And it's worked fine.
[10:33] <essobi_> Umm.. I can't seem to make a kernel that boots with Ubuntu.. is there anything mindblowingly dumb about the 2.6 kernel and the linux-* packages, that I am missing?
[10:33] <hksdu> lsuactiafner, it's using nv but how do I change to nvidia? do I change it manually or do I change it by configuration tool?
[10:33] <Sunny> I started with knoppic.
[10:33] <holycow> hksdu, oh and make sure you have a backup of the file just in case
[10:33] <Sunny> *knoppix
[10:33] <hksdu> holycow, just that driver and no other settings?
[10:33] <essobi_> I'm trying to setup my Radeon X300 with Xorg
[10:33] <hksdu> holycow, okay
[10:33] <DavidF> Are they shipping the 5.04 version now, or is it still 4.10?
[10:33] <lsuactiafner> hksdu : be a man and edit the file manualy, but cp xorg.conf xorg.conf_backup
[10:33] <lsuactiafner> incase...
[10:33] <lsuactiafner> then just change nv to nvidia
[10:33] <lsuactiafner> and restart X
[10:33] <ttrout> I started with a old version of red hat in 1997
[10:33] <zhukov_> ok... pixil9 and Xappe thanks a lot! Im gonna download the ubuntu live cd and reinstall windows.
[10:33] <Sunny> I'd like to try Suse and maybe Gentoo when I get real better :)
[10:33] <Sunny> DavidF
[10:34] <ttrout> I don't like suse...
[10:34] <zhukov_> I hate suse
[10:34] <Sunny> They're now shipping the 5.04
[10:34] <pixil9> hehe ok cya
[10:34] <holycow> hksdu, the site has specific things you need to change, also isn't there an nvidia config package you run at the end after installing the drivers that does this for you? i can't remember
[10:34] <DavidF> That's me! :D
[10:34] <Sunny> Should arrive at end of April, early May
[10:34] <pixil9> zhukov_, wait a min
[10:34] <DavidF> Good deal. Back to reading the FAQs on the website. Thanks for the help!
[10:34] <holycow> hksdu, make sure nv is changed to nvidia and you need to make sure some modules don't load, those should be on the sit as well
[10:34] <zhukov_> Ok pixil9.
[10:34] <holycow> hksdu, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:34] <hksdu> holycow, I didn't use apt-get, :P, I used synaptics...
[10:35] <hksdu> ho
[10:35] <hksdu> holycow, okay
[10:35] <Luis_R> What is WINE?
[10:35] <Sunny> oo
[10:35] <Beuno> hey, Ive been going crazy trying to share internet to my network from an ubuntu hoary "server", everything else works great, just cant seem to get around that. I installed shorewall and did the IPTABLES MASQ, any ideas?
[10:35] <holycow> hksdu, same thing, synaptic just calls apt get for you in the background
[10:35] <Sunny> Does ubuntu come with WINE?
[10:35] <Sunny> I hear you can run mIRC with it. I want that.
[10:35] <mattgirv> Luis_R, WINE Is Not An Emulator :)
[10:35] <Sunny> Nearly any Windows program?
[10:36] <Sunny> Oh ^^. :|
[10:36] <Jimmothy> don't use mIRC :(
[10:36] <Sunny> mIRC is familiar.
[10:36] <Luis_R> I not sure I'm following you guys
[10:36] <Jimmothy> irssi, xchat, anything but mIRC
[10:36] <mattgirv> Sunny, sudo apt-get install wine
[10:36] <mattgirv> then download mIRC. wine mircinstall.exe :)
[10:36] <Luis_R> I am a newbie
[10:36] <Sunny> But Opera is the one thing that'll let me bloody log onto this irc server
[10:36] <mattgirv> You might have to run "winetools" first and configure a home directory
[10:36] <MegamanX11> I got Tiger Early (tee he he)
[10:37] <Sunny> matt - i didn't understand that. sorry, not quite 'good' yet. but thanks :)
[10:37] <mattgirv> Sunny, go into Applications > System Tools > Terminal
[10:37] <Sunny> 244KB/s w00t
[10:37] <Luis_R> mattgirv
[10:37] <mattgirv> Then type sudo apt-get install wine
[10:37] <pixil9> ah n/m
[10:37] <Sunny> I gatheres that, thanks matt.
[10:37] <Sunny> ahh
[10:38] <Sunny> i thought sudo was something else :)
[10:38] <Luis_R> boy am I lost...
[10:38] <Jimmothy> you can't log into freenode with a linux irssi client?
[10:38] <mattgirv> sudo basically gives root priviledges to whatever command you use after that
[10:38] <Sunny> Ahh.
[10:38] <mattgirv> so sudo rm will delete a file with root priviledges.
[10:38] <Sunny> Crap.
[10:38] <Luis_R> Can someone tell me what WINE is?
[10:38] <Sunny> I forgot the cmd to switch to root user
[10:38] <rave> wine ==
[10:39] <hybrid> wine is windows emulation
[10:39] <Jimmothy> Sunny: su - ?
[10:39] <mattgirv> Luis_R, it basically enables you to run Windows applications/games in Linux.
[10:39] <rave> Wine means wine is not a windows emulator
[10:39] <Sunny> i thought it was something like $su
[10:39] <rave> thats the real meaning of it
[10:39] <Sunny> or #s
[10:39] <Jimmothy> su -
[10:39] <Sunny> or something
[10:39] <mattgirv> rave, no it isn't
[10:39] <Luis_R> oh, so would it serve me better than a dual boot?
[10:39] <mattgirv> WINWE
[10:39] <mattgirv> :p
[10:39] <mattgirv> WINE Is Not a Emulator
[10:39] <Sunny> hmm, k Jim.
[10:39] <rave> wine is not an Emulator
[10:39] <hybrid> whats up wit free software and recursive acronyms i.e php wine gnu hurd
[10:39] <rave> execatly :p sorry
[10:40] <Beuno> hey, can I use firestarter from console?
[10:40] <Jimmothy> if its ubuntu its sudo before the command. i know, i dislike this too.
[10:40] <Beuno> is it easy to edit through config files?
[10:40] <pixil9> Where does wine install stuff?
[10:40] <Delph> hybrid: php?
[10:40] <Beuno> Im giving up on shorewall
[10:40] <Xappe> Beuno: I would stick with shorewall, it's great
[10:40] <holycow> hksdu, so?
[10:40] <GammaRay> hybrid: nerds run amuck
[10:40] <Beuno> hm
[10:40] <hybrid> php hyptex sumthing
[10:40] <Beuno> well
[10:40] <Delph> preproccessed hypertext pages?
[10:40] <Sunny> 880/1066 updates complete
[10:40] <Beuno> Ive been working on it for 2 days
[10:40] <rave> any one know the maintainer join procedures ?
[10:40] <Beuno> I cant get it to shre internet
[10:40] <Beuno> :(
[10:40] <hybrid> GammaRay: what is amuck
[10:40] <Beuno> any ideas?
[10:41] <Beuno> I followed all the walkthroughs
[10:41] <Xappe> Beuno: you can use the example files that comes with the shorewall-doc package
[10:41] <mattgirv> pixil9, when you download WINE, you run a program called winetools where you choose a directory, whatever directory you choose, WINE will use it to install software to.
[10:41] <Beuno> triple checked all configs
[10:41] <Beuno> yeah, I did
[10:41] <Delph> PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor, actually.
[10:41] <Beuno> just seems to reject the connections from the other PCs
[10:41] <rave> any one know the maintainer join procedures ?
[10:41] <Beuno> I got DHCP, MySQL, APACHE, PHP, SAMBA
[10:41] <Beuno> everythings working
[10:41] <Luis_R> hybrid, can wine access an external hard drive?
[10:41] <neofeed> breezy has lots of rough edges.... gawd.
[10:41] <Xappe> Beuno: what's the problem then?
[10:41] <shido6> well framebuffer sucked , so dont use framebuffer for 9800 ati on a prescott with p4p800 mobo
[10:41] <rave> because i cant find anything on the site thoo :(
[10:42] <GammaRay> hybrid: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Amuck
[10:42] <hybrid> Luis_R prolly
[10:42] <pixil9> hehe mirc just froze
[10:42] <Sunny> Hey, why do you call Pentiums, Prescotts? :?
[10:42] <Beuno> I cant access internet from the client
[10:42] <Beuno> s
[10:42] <LinuxJones> Beuno, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ShareInternetConnection
[10:42] <Luis_R> hybrid, its an external drive that I can't mount with Linux
[10:42] <GammaRay> Sunny: umm.. you don't?
[10:42] <Sunny> No. I call them Pentiums.
[10:42] <Beuno> yes, would be nice if that would of worked
[10:42] <Luis_R> hybrid, does that change anything?
[10:42] <Beuno> was the first thing I tried
[10:43] <Sunny> I've heard the expression before, just wondering why?
[10:43] <GammaRay> Sunny: umm lemme rephrase that... : umm... you don't.
[10:43] <Beuno> can you think of where I can start looking for the problem?
[10:43] <GammaRay> Sunny: probably the codename for the project at intel
[10:43] <Hexade> is it possible to save my configuration of Ubunto-LiveCD ?
[10:43] <Beuno> because Im lost at this point
[10:43] <hybrid> Luis_R : it changes nothing b/c *you* cant mount it
[10:43] <Sunny> Hmm.
[10:43] <Xappe> Beuno, do you have a two nic setup?
[10:44] <hybrid> if it worx under windoze then it prolly will in wine
[10:44] <Beuno> yeah, one connected to the internet perfectly, and the other one <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:44] <navreet> hi, xchat is broken... is that the case for everyone [running AMD64]
[10:44] <navreet> ?
[10:44] <Beuno> DHCP server up and running
[10:44] <pixil9> I'm using xchat.
[10:44] <Beuno> all the other PCs connect and get an IP
[10:44] <navreet> pixil9: amd64?
[10:44] <Sunny> bbl
[10:44] <Xappe> have you tried without dhcp?
[10:44] <zhukov_> found waht you wanted pixil9 ?
[10:44] <farruinn> I'm getting an error, "ImportError: No module named gtkhtml2", with a python app.  Anyone know how to resolve this?
[10:44] <Xappe> Beuno, ok
[10:45] <farruinn> I can't find a package for a gtkhtml2 python module...
[10:45] <LinuxJones> Beuno, you need to set the default gateway on the client machines ?
[10:45] <Xappe> Beuno: and you can ping the firewall?
[10:45] <Janux> holycow, I followed and it shows that logo now, but the instructions did not tell me where do I use that configuration tool, any hint?
[10:45] <navreet> how can I run a 32bit version of firefox?? [It's annoying not being able to view flash/java content]
[10:45] <Beuno> yes, I did set it to <IP_ADDRESS> on all clients
[10:45] <Beuno> yes, I can ping it correctly
[10:46] <XTCboarder> navreetthere should be a 64 bit version
[10:46] <XTCboarder> or recompile
[10:46] <LinuxJones> Beuno, you set forewarding and masquerading properly in iptables ?
[10:46] <Beuno> yes, I think so
[10:46] <Janux> holycow, sorry I am hksdu, I changed my nick
[10:46] <Beuno> how can I check?
[10:47] <LinuxJones> Beuno, iptables -L wil list your iptables rules settings
[10:47] <Sunny> back.
[10:47] <JDigital> I'm using Warty, how do I access a windows share on my network?
[10:47] <LinuxJones> Beuno, are they windows clients or Linux clients ?
[10:48] <LinuxJones> JDigital, www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:48] <JDigital> I get an error when I try to open the computer in the Network thing: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "Windows Network: meepo".
[10:48] <Beuno> I have both
[10:49] <Beuno> iptables -L uotputs a lot
[10:49] <Beuno> what am I looking for?
[10:49] <malte`> i just installed ubuntu amd64 on my homemate's pc with athlon64... but i get random reboots!
[10:50] <LinuxJones> Beuno, well it depends on what you have Iptables set up to filter/allow
[10:50] <Beuno> ok, well
[10:50] <Levander> Is there a log of the packages I've installed with apt-get somewhere?
[10:50] <pixil9> malte`, Just install 32bit.
[10:50] <Beuno> just added on shorewall
[10:50] <Beuno> all the basic ports
[10:50] <LinuxJones> Beuno, your running shorewall ?
[10:50] <Beuno> for samba, mysql, apache, etc
[10:50] <Beuno> yes
[10:50] <JDigital> LinuxJones: ubuntuguide gives no help here.
[10:50] <Beuno> I understand thats what I need
[10:50] <LinuxJones> Beuno, oh dear
[10:51] <Beuno> or dont I?
[10:51] <Beuno> heh
[10:51] <Beuno> ok
[10:51] <Beuno> clearliy Im very lost
[10:51] <JDigital> ..
[10:51] <Beuno> apt-get remove shorewall?    /etc/init.d/shorewall stop?
[10:51] <JDigital> oh hey, it works now
[10:51] <malte`> pixil9: yeah i think i should...
[10:51] <JDigital> thanks, LinuxJones :D
[10:52] <LinuxJones> Beuno, shorewall probably has added a bunch of rules. If you can 't configure shorewall best to get rid of it and follow the guide.
[10:52] <LinuxJones> JDigital, 1 sec
[10:52] <olorin> help timestamp_format
[10:52] <Beuno> ok, removing...
[10:52] <Beuno> will it remove the rules it set?
[10:52] <hans_> how do i search for files in ubuntu?
[10:52] <navreet> XTCboarder, if i wanted to compile stuff, i'd be running gentoo
[10:52] <Xappe> Beuno: i got my internet sharing up and running in no time with the shorewall example files. just had to do some minor changes
[10:53] <Beuno> hans:  find / -name text
[10:53] <navreet> XTCboarder, I want it to "just work"
[10:53] <hans_> thx
[10:53] <Beuno> Xappe: didnt have the same luck as you  :(
[10:53] <olorin> hans_: use slocate
[10:53] <XTCboarder> oh
[10:53] <Beuno> LinuxJones: removed. how do I remove all the rules it set in iptablkes?
[10:53] <Amaranth> Lathiat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29732 :D
[10:53] <tomukas> are there any photos of the conference in sydney?
[10:54] <XTCboarder> get urself a 32 bit proc xD 64 bit proc are kinda new ya know....
[10:54] <olorin> you can also use the GUI
[10:54] <olorin> hans_: you can also use the GUI
[10:54] <Amaranth> New version of the menu editor is out! :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29732
[10:54] <XTCboarder> beuno iptables -F i think.....
[10:54] <Beuno> yes
[10:54] <Beuno> done
[10:55] <Xappe> Bueno: have you enabled ip forwarding in your shorewall.conf?
[10:55] <jnk> anyone from sweden.?
[10:55] <Xappe> jnk: yes
[10:55] <Beuno> xappe: yes, it was set on "on"
[10:55] <reagleBRKLN> where/how to report package bug (like in debian?)
[10:55] <jnk> Xappe; does my swedihs characters work.? .?
[10:56] <cusco> hi
[10:56] <tolle> jnk: Using utf-8?
[10:56] <jnk> darn...
[10:56] <Delph> jnk: aye, they're fine.
[10:56] <Beuno> LinuxJones:  back to zero, now what?
[10:56] <malte`> i see them too
[10:56] <cusco> Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[10:56] <cusco> usb-storage: device scan complete
[10:56] <jnk> I've tried to change to 8859-15 (?) so many times...
[10:56] <Beuno> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ShareInternetConnection
[10:56] <Beuno> that?
[10:56] <cusco> HFS+-fs warning: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running fsck.hfsplus is recommended.  mounting read-only.
[10:56] <tolle> Delph: And you are using utf-8 to i guess
[10:56] <Delph> tolle: it's the only way to go.
[10:57] <tolle> jnk: What client?
[10:57] <malte`> as you should see my italian ones  :P
[10:57] <reagleBRKLN> kodos doesn't work...
[10:57] <cusco> please I don't have fsk.hfs
[10:57] <cusco> fsck.hfs
[10:57] <LinuxJones> JDigital, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[10:57] <Xappe> jnk: yes
[10:57] <jnk> where do I see witch character set I'm using,?  =)  kinda n00b on linux so far...
[10:57] <LinuxJones> Beuno, iptables -F
[10:57] <cusco> altho I donwloaded hfsplus and used hpfsck
[10:57] <jnk> I mean the system defaults...
[10:57] <cusco> and I have an error
[10:57] <LinuxJones> Beuno, follow the guide from the start
[10:57] <Beuno> ok
[10:57] <Beuno> will do
[10:57] <malte`> jnk: 'locale'
[10:58] <Xappe> jnk: the system default for Hoary is utf-8
[10:58] <malte`> on a terminal
[10:58] <LinuxJones> Beuno, once you get those iptables rules set you should be good to go
[10:58] <jnk> Xappe; yes i know, i've tried to change it...
[10:58] <jnk> makte; k... will try...
[10:58] <joe|code> Ubuntuguide.org is excellent.
[10:58] <jnk> crap UTF8....
[10:59] <Beuno> LinuxJones: should I restart my network?
[10:59] <Beuno> or its not necessary?
[10:59] <REWind> Hi guys! Do anyone know how you can get esd to be shared amoung more users simultantly logged in?
[10:59] <jnk> Xappe, malte; do u guys know where I change the character set.? I dont want to use UTF8...
[10:59] <Simon_> REWind, magiq
[10:59] <LinuxJones> Beuno, I don't think so but if you need to type /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:59] <Simon_> lol
[10:59] <malte`> jnk: just on IRC or system-wide?
[10:59] <jnk> malte; system
[10:59] <Xappe> jnk: sudo dphg-reconfigure locales
[11:00] <Xappe> *dpkg
[11:00] <jnk> k...
[11:00] <Beuno> now, I should see somethng on iptables -L, right?
[11:00] <qm8008135> how do you open a new tab in firefox from xterm?
[11:00] <qm8008135> man firefox gives me nothing
[11:00] <jnk> Xappe; trying thet now... brb. ;)
[11:00] <malte`> or append 'export LANG=your_preferred_locale' to /etc/profile
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> just run firefox
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> tho it will give you a new windows..
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> if that is what you want
[11:00] <LinuxJones> Beuno, yes
[11:01] <cusco> please I need help here! please!! http://rafb.net/paste/results/p6Hx9T76.html
[11:02] <REWind> Simon_, tell me more about magiq? I couldn't find it in the system, synaptic or on google..
[11:02] <Beuno> LinuxJones: well, now, iptables -L is empty, and I dont have a connection to the internet anymore
[11:02] <Sunny> oh shite
[11:02] <Sunny> how do i manually boot to my windows partition from Grub screen?
[11:03] <LinuxJones> Beuno, iptables can't be empty if you put those commands in
[11:03] <Beuno> I know
[11:03] <Beuno> just put it in again
[11:03] <Beuno> still empty....
[11:03] <malte`> Sunny: try 'root (hd0,0)'
[11:03] <malte`> subsitute 0,0 with your actual windows partitin
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> iptables -L -t nat
[11:04] <Sunny> hmm. I'll have to remember it first
[11:04] <Sunny> i think it's hd1
[11:04] <LinuxJones> Beuno, /etc/init.d/networking restart (it should come up and say ok)
[11:04] <malte`> hda1
[11:04] <malte`> so it's hd0,0 for grub
[11:04] <malte`> try root (hd0,0) or rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[11:04] <Sunny> thatis it
[11:04] <Beuno> "iptables -L -t nat" outputs something: MASQUERADE all -- anywhere anywhere
[11:05] <Sunny> Error while parsing number
[11:05] <Beuno> under posrouting
[11:05] <LinuxJones> Beuno, that's good
[11:05] <Beuno> :D
[11:05] <Beuno> is tehre anywhere I can see
[11:05] <Beuno> a log
[11:05] <Sunny> arse
[11:05] <Sunny> malte?
[11:05] <LinuxJones> Beuno, what does ipconfig -a say for eth0 and eth1 ?
[11:05] <Beuno> if the cliente get rejected or something
[11:06] <malte`> Sunny: i don't know :|
[11:06] <LinuxJones> Beuno, make that ifconfig -a
[11:06] <Beuno> :D   I assumed
[11:06] <Beuno> eth0  has my ISPs IP  <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:06] <LinuxJones> Beuno, perfect
[11:06] <Beuno> eth1 has <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:07] <xMaximex> I have two HD, one for windows and one for Linux .. i have to remove my first HD .. how can i temporary boot directly from the 2nd hd ?
[11:07] <LinuxJones> Beuno, that's not the correct ip address as per the guide :)
[11:07] <Beuno> I know
[11:07] <Beuno> I just changed it
[11:08] <Beuno> to configure it so it would "fight" with the current server
[11:08] <Beuno> which has that IP also
[11:08] <pixil9> Anyone know a good x program for monitoring snmp
[11:08] <Beuno> you think thats the reason?
[11:08] <Beuno> I thought that was a valid IP also
[11:08] <LinuxJones> Beuno, as long as it's a valid ip address it should be ok
[11:08] <Nalioth> xMaximex, what is on the 2nd HD?
[11:09] <Sunny> oh shit.
[11:09] <Beuno> ok, well, I dont seem to have internte connection on it right now
[11:09] <Beuno> rebooting it
[11:09] <Beuno> and then Ill run to one of the clients
[11:10] <Beuno> there
[11:10] <Beuno> internet
[11:10] <Beuno> gonno run to one of the clients
[11:10] <LinuxJones> Beuno, so it works ?
[11:11] <Beuno> no no, just on the server
[11:11] <Beuno> trying to get it on the clients
[11:11] <Beuno> rebooting a windows and an ubuntu box
[11:12] <redduck666> does apt-get work on ubuntu live cd?
[11:12] <neofeed> redduck666, what do you want to do?
[11:12] <Sunny> anyone got any ideas on my problem?
[11:12] <hans_> im looking for a program to schedule shutdown ubuntu
[11:12] <redduck666> neofeed: install things like amule/xmue
[11:12] <spiral> does anyone else have problems of console loadkeys in breezy ?
[11:12] <Beuno> LinuxJones: I shoulndt have to touch anything on my reolv.conf
[11:12] <redduck666> *xmule
[11:13] <Beuno> on the server side at least, right?
[11:13] <MegamanX11> are there any really good apt repositories that don;t come with ubuntu?
[11:13] <LinuxJones> Beuno, you have to set the dns servers to your ISP's dns servers in that file.
[11:13] <Nalioth> MegamanX11, what a good question...what he said, for PPC?
[11:13] <neofeed> redduck666, what about: try it out?
[11:14] <hans_> im looking for a program to schedule shutdown ubuntu
[11:14] <stazz> hans_: cron
[11:14] <Beuno> yeah, tthey go setup automatically
[11:14] <LinuxJones> hans_, cron
[11:14] <Sunny> anyone
[11:14] <hans_> thx
[11:14] <joe|code> Does anyone have the Mplayer plugin installed in their browser? I installed it via Synaptic but I cannot find it.
[11:15] <LinuxJones> hans_, if you just want the even to happen once like tonight you can also use the at command
[11:15] <Janux> my xmms crashes, I am using onboard sound, any help?
[11:15] <jnk> anyone that can help me with activating DMA on my Plextor DVD-RW.? I only get this strange error msg (HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted) =(
[11:19] <Beuno> ;(
[11:19] <LinuxJones> hi hans_
[11:20] <owdi> is there a big performance difference between the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel and 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel with a Athlon XP Barton?
[11:20] <Janux> hi, I can browse my network by going to places->Network Servers and it shows my windows shared drive.  Now if I want to play movies/MP3 streaming from other shared network drives, what should I do?
[11:20] <moZer> use a gnome-vfs enabled player
[11:20] <moZer> such as rhythmbox
[11:21] <Sunny> Im creating a new master boot record
[11:21] <Sunny> and then hopefully i'll be able to repair the damage
[11:21] <Beuno> LinuxJones: no luck
[11:21] <moZer> owdi:  not a big
[11:21] <moZer> i bet you'll fail the pepsi challenge
[11:21] <Janux> thx
[11:22] <reagleBRKLN> dang it, its hard to submit a ubuntu bug!
[11:22] <olorin> qm8008135: look at this http://aquariusoft.org/page/linux/firefox_openinnewtab/
[11:22] <owdi> moZer: thanks, I wasnt' sure if it was worth the inconvenience
[11:23] <LinuxJones> hans_, have a look at man at ,     "sudo at midnight shutdown -h now"  will shutdown your computer at midnight
[11:23] <LinuxJones> Beuno, you sure you have the clients setup ok ?
[11:24] <Beuno> hey!
[11:24] <Beuno> wait
[11:24] <Beuno> now
[11:24] <Beuno> it seems
[11:24] <Beuno> from the windows box
[11:24] <Beuno> I can resolve DNS
[11:24] <Beuno> I can ping google.com
[11:24] <Beuno> well
[11:24] <Beuno> it doesnt respond
[11:24] <Beuno> but it resolvs the IP address of the domain
[11:25] <Beuno> but it doesnt respond
[11:25] <Beuno> and I cant browse and webpages
[11:25] <LinuxJones> Beuno, you dns on the clients is not set to what is in /etc/resolve.conf on the server
[11:25] <Beuno> Im a step closre though
[11:25] <Simon_> beuno mtu ???
[11:25] <LinuxJones> Beuno, you can browse ?
[11:25] <Albacker> Beuno same happend to me.
[11:25] <Beuno> no
[11:25] <Beuno> I cant
[11:25] <Beuno> sotrry
[11:25] <Simon_> beuno are un in a network
[11:25] <Simon_> ?
[11:25] <Beuno> Albacker: how dod you fix it?
[11:26] <Simon_> Beuno, are u inside a network ?
[11:26] <Beuno> yes
[11:26] <Albacker> Beuno, do you use dial up ?
[11:26] <Simon_> and ur mtu are set correctly
[11:26] <Simon_>  ?
[11:26] <hans_> how do i shutdown my system with the command 'at'?
[11:26] <Beuno> no, cable
[11:26] <Simon_> ok
[11:26] <Albacker> hmm, i use dial up.
[11:27] <Simon_> beuno sor ur inside a network
[11:27] <maxxist> quick question about the gnome based bit torrent client that comes with ubuntu.  which version is it,  it doesnt seem to work with alot of the torrents I have been finding.
[11:27] <Beuno> LinuxJones: is there a way to make the clients get the DNS from the server?
[11:27] <Simon_> and u have a router and or thing that shares the net right ???
[11:27] <LinuxJones> hans_, "sudo at midnight shutdown -h now"  will shutdown your computer at midnight
[11:27] <Beuno> becuase they change every now and then
[11:27] <ja5on> how do I change my machine name
[11:27] <Simon_> /etc/hostname
[11:27] <ja5on> cool
[11:28] <Sunny> Hokey. Got Windows back.
[11:28] <Nermal> *Slap*
[11:28] <Sunny> How do i know get back into Ubuntu?
[11:28] <Simon_> well pico /etc/hostname or vi /etc/hostname
[11:28] <Sunny> *now
[11:28] <Beuno> woooooooooooooooorks!
[11:28] <DigitalFox|PDA> /names
[11:28] <dataw0lf|w> or hostname <hostname>
[11:28] <Sunny> Simon: Ubuntu just screwed me. I need to get back into it
[11:29] <Simon_> ur bootloader beeing ???
[11:29] <bad_mongo> ah.. I wanted to test SuSe 9.3, and it said that it had iPod-support.. first thing it did was to erase its content
[11:29] <Beuno> LinuxJones:  woooooooooooooooorks
[11:29] <Sunny> it WAS gru
[11:29] <Sunny> b
[11:29] <Sunny> tis now gone
[11:29] <LinuxJones> Beuno, so what was the problem ?
[11:29] <Simon_> and leme guess now u can only boot windows right
[11:29] <Beuno> thank you thank you
[11:29] <Sunny> Yup. :)
[11:29] <Simon_> ok
[11:29] <Simon_> well
[11:29] <Beuno> had to set the DNS on windows
[11:29] <Sunny> After usuing fixmbr
[11:29] <Simon_> do u have a bootable linux disc neer u
[11:29] <Beuno> still
[11:29] <Beuno> I need to find a way
[11:29] <Sunny> I'm just booting up knoppix
[11:29] <Beuno> for the DNS servers
[11:29] <thisfred> I have a sound question. Mostly everything works fine, but since I upgraded to hoary I can't get audacity to work. Sound familiar to anyone?
[11:30] <Simon_> ok
[11:30] <Beuno> to be 192
[11:30] <Beuno> .<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:30] <Sunny> 3.6
[11:30] <Simon_> chroot on ur ubuntu partition and reinstall grub
[11:30] <Beuno> because they change
[11:30] <Sunny> how?
[11:30] <Simon_> uhhh
[11:30] <Beuno> I cant set the staticilly on the clients
[11:30] <Simon_> im useto lilo lol
[11:30] <Beuno> that part didnt make sense to me
[11:30] <Simon_> sunny
[11:30] <Sunny> Simon
[11:30] <LinuxJones> Beuno, it can still use those dns servers when it boots up next time dhcp is disabled so it shouldn't update /etc/resolv.conf
[11:30] <Sunny> God my room is a mess.
[11:30] <Simon_> u mount ur partition u chroot /mnt/partition /bin/bash
[11:31] <Simon_> :) same here lol
[11:31] <LinuxJones> Beuno, or whatever file windows uses
[11:32] <Simon_> Sunny, u mount ur partition (ubuntu partition) then chroot /mnt/partition /bin/bash then if i remember correctly there is a command to reinstall grub
[11:32] <Beuno> ok, going to try it this way then
[11:32] <Beuno> thanks a million!
[11:32] <LinuxJones> Beuno, have fun :)
[11:32] <Sunny> ok. i'll try
[11:33] <cusco> please help me with fsck: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AtEmrj82.html
[11:33] <paulfox> hi folks. i'm trying to use my ipod on linux(just got it today) and i think i've messed it up. whenever its not connected to the usb cable, i get a folder and an ! icon
[11:33] <Sunny> after /mnt/<partition> how do i do the partition bit?
[11:33] <paulfox>  i've got no idea how to get music onto it...where do i starts?
[11:33] <Sunny> a number
[11:33] <Sunny> hda5
[11:33] <Sunny> ?
[11:34] <FeJaOr> pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C01, pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C02...what do that mean??
[11:34] <Sunny> Simnon?
[11:34] <Sunny> Simon?
[11:34] <pixil9> where does apt-get download the install files?
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> cd /var/cache/archives or something
[11:34] <paulfox> anybody got experience with gtkpod and rhythmbox?
[11:34] <Beuno> will do!
[11:34] <lsuactiafner>  /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:34] <CarlK> will the installer let me resize an NTFS partition?  I would like to install on to a XP box that has one big partition - (I do have an image that I can restore if things go bad)
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> CarlK : i doubt it, but get a 2nd opinion
[11:35] <Sunny> SIMON?!
[11:36] <WillCooke> paulfox, I've got gtkpod working, haven't looked at rhythmbox
[11:36] <Sunny> Don't make me hit you ;)
[11:36] <FeJaOr> pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C01, pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C02...what do that mean??
[11:36] <paulfox> WillCooke, whats the key to getting gtkpod to do something good?
[11:36] <cusco> please help me with fsck: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AtEmrj82.html
[11:37] <WillCooke> paulfox. How do you mean?  Generally working?  I've found gtkpod to be a little lacking.
[11:37] <Sunny> SIMON
[11:37] <paulfox> WillCooke, my ipod screen always says "Do not disconnect" when it's connected with linux. and if i add a song to the ipod with gtkpod, and disconnect it anyway, i just get the ! icon, saying it's unusable
[11:37] <WillCooke> paulfox, The newer version built from source has a few more features, but generally it's only any good for getting files on and off the ipod.  File managemnet on your computer needs to be done manually.
[11:38] <WillCooke> paulfox, Ah right.  This I know about...
[11:38] <paulfox> WillCooke, phew...i'm completely stumped
[11:38] <WillCooke> paufox, When you want to "eject" the ipod, you need to rmmod sbp2 (or is it spb2?)
[11:38] <cusco> WillCooke, paulfox, Im having problems with my ipod maybe you could help...
[11:38] <cusco> http://rafb.net/paste/results/AtEmrj82.html
[11:39] <Sunny> WHERE'S SIMON?
[11:39] <paulfox> WillCooke,  sbp2
[11:39] <WillCooke> paulfox, of course you need to "sudo" that command, so "sudo rmmod sbp2"
[11:39] <WillCooke> paulfox, that should get you back to the "OK to disconnect" screen
[11:39] <mattgirv> Does anyone here have an Orange SPV?
[11:40] <CarlK> ok, plan B - does the liveCD have the partition thing that will reisze NTFS?
[11:41] <paulfox> WillCooke, i've removed the module, but i'm still on the do not disconnect screen
[11:41] <WillCooke> paulfox, Oh!
[11:41] <WillCooke> paulfox, hold on, i'll plug the ipod in......
[11:41] <paulfox> WillCooke, cool, thanks
[11:41] <WillCooke> paulfox, Ah, are you usb2 or firewire?
[11:41] <cusco> WillCooke: paulfox: I cannot writte onto my iPod... due to: HFS+-fs warning: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running fsck.hfsplus is recommended.  mounting read-only.
[11:41] <Amaranth> Hey, does anyone here use the Menu Editor from the Ubuntu Forums?
[11:42] <holycow> Amaranth, all the time
[11:42] <Amaranth> holycow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29732
[11:42] <WillCooke> cusco, Your best bet is to copy all your files off of it and reformat as vfat (assuming you've got a g3 or later)
[11:43] <nanophase> hi
[11:43] <paulfox> WillCooke, maybe thats what i need to do?
[11:43] <hans_> i heard that there is a possibility to install windows games on a linux system?
[11:43] <nanophase> can I run just "grub-install (hd0)" from the install CD?
[11:44] <Nalioth> thought ipods were fat32
[11:44] <olorin> hans_: yes
[11:44] <nanophase> doesn't want to run because it can't install grub package before
[11:44] <pepsi> moZer, hi
[11:44] <Sunny> SIMON
[11:44] <olorin> hans_: have a look at www.winehq.xom
[11:44] <Sunny> Where's he?
[11:44] <nanophase> I just want to have my grub mbr back after windows install
[11:44] <olorin> hans_: *com
[11:44] <Sunny> I need urgent bloody help.
[11:44] <Sunny> i need my grub mbr back
[11:44] <hans_> thx
[11:45] <phillipc> hi. I compiled a custom kernel, loaded it, and don't have the ipw2100 (networking module) available when I reboot. Is there a package I can install to get the ipw2100 module?
[11:45] <Simon_> Sunny, grub there is a restore function man grub
[11:45] <SaMRoX`> hi
[11:45] <nanophase> Sumido if you can run grub-install (hd0) :>
[11:45] <holycow> Amaranth, cannot open that page
[11:45] <Sunny> Simon
[11:45] <Sunny> i cant mnt my partition
[11:45] <Amaranth> holycow: eh? what's it say?
[11:45] <Sunny> how do i do it?
[11:45] <SaMRoX`> how do I decompress a .tar???
[11:46] <nanophase> damn why is it a damn lilo on the CD when starting...you could use grub for fixing mbr's
[11:46] <Amaranth> SaMRoX`: Applications->Accessories->Archive Manager
[11:46] <dataw0lf|w> SaMRoX`: tar cvf <tar file>
[11:46] <chavo_> SaMRoX`, it's not compressed.
[11:46] <SaMRoX`> Amaranth, how from the terminal?
[11:46] <SaMRoX`> thx dataw0lf
[11:46] <dataw0lf|w> err, tar xvf
[11:46] <dataw0lf|w> hehe
[11:46] <Amaranth> holycow: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=67 and choose the Smeg 0.5 thread
[11:47] <Nalioth> windoze sux
[11:47] <Sunny> Simon?
[11:47] <FeJaOr> pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C01, pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C02...what do that mean??
[11:48] <WillCooke> paulfox, Sorry - my dog just pressed the reset button on the computer.. Where were we?
[11:48] <dataw0lf|w> likely story.
[11:48] <paulfox> WillCooke, heheh. i was wondering if formatting the ipod will get be back to it being usable?
[11:49] <WillCooke> paulfox, if you have got a backup of all the data it won't hurt it, just make sure you format the correct partition!
[11:49] <paulfox> WillCooke, will do
[11:49] <neighborlee> anyone having trouble printing with gimip..regular printing works fine but my pictures wont...the right printer is shown selected but clicking 'print' doesn't seem to push anything to print cue ?
[11:49] <Sunny> fecking idleness
[11:50] <paulfox> WillCooke, it's weird. i've just run mkdosfs on the ipod, and reinserted it, and i've still got files on it
[11:51] <paulfox> WillCooke, but gnome has mounted it as 2 directories: myipod and usbdisk(the one with the files - Calendars, Contacts, iPod_control)
[11:52] <georges> hi
[11:52] <georges> the device create for a DV camera has mode 600 instead of 660. is that normal? where can I chage it (no idea how devfs works)
[11:52] <Beuno_> LinuxJones: got everythoing working, just cant seem to get the "route add default gw ip" command to stick
[11:53] <holy_cow> backo
[11:53] <Beuno_> anyone have any idea how to make the "permanent"?
[11:53] <holy_cow> Amaranth, ah i see, haha nice :)
[11:54] <sascha_> hi, any idea why I cant install postgresql 8.0 with a simple apt-get?
[11:54] <olorin> hans_: and also www.transgaming.com
[11:54] <SaMRoX`> I want to install XMMS and when I run ./configure I get this error:
[11:54] <SaMRoX`> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:55] <SaMRoX`> how do I solve it?
[11:55] <nickrud> SaMRoX`, apt-get install build-essential
[11:55] <Sunny> anyone?
[11:55] <nickrud> SaMRoX`, that gets you the basic stuff for compiling, you may need more dev files, just ask abut any errors
[11:56] <hybrid_> how do i install new fonts?
[11:56] <SaMRoX`> thx
[11:56] <holy_cow> SaMRoX`, what does installing xmms and compiling haveto do with them selves?
[11:56] <holy_cow> SaMRoX`, xmms is in ubuntu
[11:56] <nickrud> hybrid_, just drop the ttf file in ~/.fonts
[11:56] <hybrid_> ok ty
[11:56] <SaMRoX`> where holy_cow?
[11:56] <dts> I have a laptop and I would like to be able to change the background brightness based on power states, are there any tools out there that are capable of doing this?
[11:57] <SaMRoX`> I think I have an older version of ubuntu, thats why
[11:57] <PHPWannabe> Does anyone know how to make thunderbird your default email program?
[11:57] <holy_cow> SaMRoX`, why not update to hoary?
[11:57] <holy_cow> and enable universe perhaps?
[11:57] <SaMRoX`> Is there anyway to update without downloading and intalling everithing again?
[11:57] <nickrud> PHPWannabe, System->Prefs->Preferred Aps
[11:57] <holy_cow> PHPWannabe, system > prefs > preffered programs
[11:57] <holy_cow> SaMRoX`, sure
[11:57] <SaMRoX`> If theres a way Ill do it now
[11:57] <dts> PHPWannabe, yea system- preferences -prefered aps
[11:57] <SaMRoX`> How?
[11:57] <dts> lol
[11:58] <WillCooke> paulfox, guess what!?
[11:58] <Beuno_> anyone knwo how I can make "route add default gw ip" stick permanently
[11:58] <Beuno_> ?
[11:58] <holy_cow> what was the old version of ubuntu?
[11:58] <paulfox> WillCooke, what?
[11:58] <WillCooke> paulfox, dog strikes again
[11:58] <paulfox> WillCooke, hahah :)
[11:58] <farruinn> holy_cow: warty?
[11:58] <holy_cow> SaMRoX`, you need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file ... all entries from oldubuntuname to hoary
[11:58] <olorin> Beuno_: add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:58] <Nalioth> nickrud, don't you have to remake the ttf database or something?
[11:59] <holy_cow> farruinn, danke, change all warty entries to hoary in that file
[11:59] <WillCooke> paulfox, Right, so is the ipod any better now?
[11:59] <Beuno_> under "gw"?  "gateway"?
[11:59] <nickrud> Nalioth, the database will see the new file and update automatically
[11:59] <PHPWannabe> I can't find preferences in system
[11:59] <paulfox> WillCooke, no, not yet
[11:59] <dts> has anyone messed around with the background light on their monitor?
[11:59] <holy_cow> SaMRoX`, then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:59] <olorin> Beuno_:  gateway ipaddress
[11:59] <paulfox> i've tried formatting it, but i don't seem to delete any files when i run the mkdosfs command on it
[11:59] <holy_cow> SaMRoX`, let me know if you get stuck in any of those steps
[11:59] <k4rl> dts: with software you mean?
[11:59] <Beuno_> thanks!
[11:59] <nickrud> PHPWannabe, the menu at the top of the screen?
[11:59] <SaMRoX`> ok thx holy_cow, ill do it