[01:05] <lazyPower-sprint> rcj: i dont think at present that is a known constraint
[01:27] <mbruzek> marcoceppi, tvansteenburgh  please take a look
[01:27] <mbruzek> https://code.launchpad.net/~mbruzek/charm-tools/categories-info/+merge/233849
[01:42] <jose> arosales: hey, I'm around now :)
[01:44] <lazyPower-sprint> jose: o/
[01:44] <jose> hey lazyPower-sprint!
[01:45] <jose> anything you need me to take a look at on the revq?
[01:45] <jose> I'm ready for n'acking
[01:47] <arosales> jose, hello
[01:48] <arosales> jose, I saw your comment re pagekite
[01:48] <jose> cool
[01:48] <mbruzek> jose, hello
[01:48] <jose> hey mbruzek!
[01:48] <arosales> I got some suggestions on the readme, and I am still trying to learn about pagekite myself
[01:48] <mbruzek> jose We are all sprinting and adding icons, readme, etc.
[01:49] <jose> arosales: it's a charm I still need to investigate on since it's tunnelling but only supports minecraft and html protocols
[01:49] <jose> mbruzek: if you could point me to a couple charms that need them, I can give a hand with it too
[01:49] <jose> checking on mbruzek's munin MP
[01:50] <mbruzek> jose can you log in to http://review.juju.solutions/
[01:50] <mbruzek> the log in feature is new
[01:51] <jose> awesome
[02:01] <lazyPower-sprint> hey asanjar, just to wrap wrap up zookeeper so its ready for the store i'm going to add a README update
[02:02] <lazyPower-sprint> you'll want to backport it to your devel branch before you move forward with the charm. But you need to illustrate that changing the zookeeper storage path is destructive, therefore immutable.
[02:02] <lazyPower-sprint> unless mbruzek says this is HORRIBLE
[02:02] <lazyPower-sprint> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1353197
[02:02] <mup> Bug #1353197: hortonworks hdp2.1 zookeeper charm <Juju Charms Collection:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1353197>
[02:07] <mbruzek> Hey ecosystem, please check out my application for ubuntu membership
[02:07] <mbruzek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mbruzek
[02:08] <mbruzek> jcastro, ^
[02:53] <lazyPower-sprint> mwenning: perchance are you around?
[02:56] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, I am.
[02:56] <mwenning> sup
[02:56] <lazyPower-sprint> i'm remoted into the dell test lab
[02:57] <mwenning> ok.
[02:57] <lazyPower-sprint> and boysenberry.maas isn't found - looks liek either the bootstrapped env went away or my DNS is incorrectly setup
[02:57] <lazyPower-sprint> can you take a peek for me?
[02:59] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, stby
[02:59] <lazyPower-sprint> ack
[03:03] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, yeah, lookup boysenberry.maas: no such host
[03:04] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, are you working late or are you on a different part of the planet?
[03:12] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, I'm at home right now, I'll take a look at it first thing tomorrow morning (about 9:00 CST)
[03:16] <lazyPower-sprint> I'm west coast, working late at a sprint
[03:16] <lazyPower-sprint> thanks foir taking a look mwenning
[03:17] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, ok that should work out ok.
[03:21] <lazyPower-sprint> mwenning: if i'm not around, email me and i'll be around shortly. You've got priority for me given the nature of this merge and the time constraints i've got to work with.
[03:23] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, I'm going to try destroying and rebootstrapping juju.  timeout was 9999 (seconds?) so it probably timed out
[03:33] <mwenning> "never mind", looks like I'll have to reboot it from the lab.
[03:41] <lazyPower-sprint> ack. I saw the email followup mwenning - We'll re-convene on this in the morning
[03:41] <jose> woohoo, fun netsplit
[03:41] <lazyPower-sprint> mwenning: i dont want to keep you working late. I can bust this out early in the AM and get some some solid feedback.
[03:41] <mwenning> lazyPower-sprint, cool.  See you then.
[04:38] <ianunruh> is this still valid: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/howto-privatecloud.html
[04:38] <ianunruh> there doesn't seem to be any `juju metadata` or `juju generate-tools`
[04:45] <ianunruh> after configuring my OpenStack env, I keep getting
[04:45] <ianunruh> ERROR index file has no data for cloud {RegionOne http://<IP_ADDRESS>:5000/v2.0/} not found
[04:55] <ianunruh> interesting.. apparently the juju client for OS X doesn't have the metadata command
[13:09] <rogpeppe> has anyone here used the juju publish command?
[13:10] <rick_h_> rogpeppe: does it exist yet?
[13:10] <rick_h_> rogpeppe: it's something we've started a spec for
[13:10] <rogpeppe> rick_h_: it's existed for 18 months now
[13:11] <rogpeppe> rick_h_: the current version just pushes to launchpad and waits for the charm store to pick it up
[13:11] <rick_h_> rogpeppe: ah, cool then. Didn't realize it was already a command
[14:10] <jose> marcoceppi: ping
[15:24] <rbasak> Are bug reports accepted at for example https://github.com/juju/testing/issues, or should I file in Launchpad?
[15:32] <rbasak> niemeyer: one further question about licensing for https://github.com/go-yaml/yaml. I can't find an actual copyright statement.
[15:32] <rbasak> niemeyer: I presume this is Canonical? Please could you add a copyright claim to somewhere in that file, so it is clear who is licensing it?
[16:05] <niemeyer> rbasak: It's all Canonical
[16:05] <niemeyer> rbasak: I'll add a note to LICENSE
[16:06] <rbasak> Thanks!
[16:10] <niemeyer> rbasak: Done
[16:10] <rbasak> Thanks again!
[17:00] <allomov> Hey, all.
[17:01] <allomov> Does juju-local work with mac os ? What will it use instead of LXC ?
[17:10] <hazmat> allomov, it doesn't work on osx, you can download a vagrant image with juju local provider setup using lxc
[17:10] <hazmat> for osx local workflows.. else the client binary on osx can be used against public/private clouds, etc
[17:10] <hazmat> rogpeppe, i use hte publish command
[17:11] <hazmat> rogpeppe, i point it out to people when they ask why the charm store isn't publishing their charm
[17:11] <rogpeppe> hazmat: it seems to rely on someone running charmload periodically - is that right?
[17:11] <rogpeppe> hazmat: (it also seems to poll indefinitely without any delay, but perhaps i'm misreading the code)
[17:13] <hazmat> rogpeppe, charmload is running periodically and basically contionously.. publish is fairly quick in practice.
[17:14] <hazmat> rogpeppe, but yes i think your assumptions are correct,  alternatively you could try writing a charm and publishing it to see behavior ;-)
[17:14] <rogpeppe> hazmat: :-)
[17:15] <rogpeppe> hazmat: we're looking at adding a backwardly compatible API to the new charm store and wondering just how much compatibility is needed. for example, is it reasonable to ask charm publishers to use a newer version of juju?
[17:17] <hazmat> rogpeppe, imo that's reasonable.. as long as you keep the push  / store feedback
[17:17] <rick_h_> hazmat: the feedback would be over the changes api endpoint (the rss-like api added)
[17:17] <hazmat> rogpeppe, the goal is that it would eventually be actually a publish..
[17:17] <hazmat> rick_h_, that's not appropriate
[17:18] <hazmat> rick_h_, the point is to get feedback on a particular charm on why it wasn't published
[17:18] <rick_h_> hazmat: yes, that's the next step after getting the new api in place in the current store location with enuogh backwards compat to not break folks.
[17:18] <rogpeppe> hazmat: by "push / store feedback", you mean getting errors from the charm store when you try to publish a charm?
[17:18] <rogpeppe> hazmat: that's actually easier with the new model
[17:19] <rick_h_> hazmat: oh yes, sorry. Thought you meant feedback on 'it's loaded now'
[17:19] <hazmat> rogpeppe, yes.. ie. lint works, i've pushed the charm to lp, i've deployed it.. but its not showing up in the store.. why?
[17:19] <rogpeppe> hazmat: because you get the error directly from the charm store
[17:19] <hazmat> rogpeppe, with publish yes.. else the whole process is async
[17:19] <rogpeppe> hazmat: rather than relying on some async process to push it or set errors associated with it
[17:25] <jcastro> hi guys
[17:25] <jcastro> so the flagbearer charms will be: postgres, elasticsearch, rails, meteor, and chamilo
[17:31] <fuzzy> What do you mean by flagbearer?
[17:31] <fuzzy> Is there a specific reason mongo isn't in that list?
[17:32] <fuzzy> jcastro:
[17:32] <jcastro> we're picking charms that have tests, and use charm helpers.
[17:33] <jcastro> dunno the state of mongo off the top of my head, let me ask.
[17:33] <fuzzy> No worries, I was just curious.
[17:33] <jcastro> fuzzy, when we say "flagbearer" we mean "is this a good charm that people can look at and learn how to write a charm"
[17:34] <fuzzy> AH
[17:34] <jcastro> apparently the mongo charm is kind of huge, monolithic, doesn't use charm helpers to the extent that it should, etc.
[17:34] <jcastro> but, it for sure will remain "featured" on the gui
[17:34] <jcastro> it's a high quality charm, just not something you'd start off with.
[17:35] <fuzzy> The only reason I asked based on what you listed previously, you described about 70% of my stack
[17:35] <fuzzy> :)
[17:37] <jcastro> people are adding tests to those now, so you're in luck!
[18:09] <tvansteenburgh> fuzzy: i just pushed fixes for the meteor charm to https://code.launchpad.net/~tvansteenburgh/charms/precise/meteor/fix-npm-install
[18:10] <tvansteenburgh> fuzzy: (in case you are eager to try it)
[18:11] <tvansteenburgh> fuzzy: it's being reviewed now, hopefully will be pushed to the charm store soon
[18:11] <fuzzy> tvansteenburgh: If I get on that side of my work today, I'll totally try that.  Thank you :)
[18:11] <tvansteenburgh> fuzzy: sure thing!
[18:50] <whit> jcastro, gh:whitmo
[18:50] <cory_fu> jcastro: gh:johnsca
[18:55] <kentb> I'm trying to run a charm test using "charm test -e maas 10-deploy-test.py" but I get a complaint saying no tests were found....what am I missing?   juju is version 1.20.7 and I'm running Trusty 14.04.1 with charm-tools version 1.3.3
[18:56] <arosales> jcastro, fyi  jose just merged your meteor mp: https://code.launchpad.net/~jorge/charms/precise/meteor/readme-updates/+merge/233962
[18:56] <arosales> thanks jose
[18:56] <jose> not a prob arosales :)
[19:00] <jcastro> <3
[19:05] <allomov> hazmat: that's ok, thank you
[19:12] <mbruzek> kentb, are you in the charm directory?
[19:13] <mbruzek> kentb, I am running a similar command right now:  juju test -v --set-e 10-deploy
[19:23] <kentb> mbruzek: hey. thanks. I had to back up one directory and now it appears to be doing the bootstrap thing, so far.   I was inside the /tests directory of my charm prior to that
[19:25] <mbruzek> kentb, you are welcome
[19:58] <pafounette> hi
[19:59] <pafounette> can any one confirm that juju only check hardcoded error message without any l10n ?
[20:07] <pafounette> is there any reason explaining why juju check against EN strings but not the errno ?
[20:07] <pafounette> like ... here https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/environs/sshstorage/storage.go#L254
[20:09] <mbruzek> pafounette, there is a #juju-dev room that might have more of the juju developers in thre.
[20:09] <pafounette> thanks :)
[20:10] <mbruzek> pafounette, from the link you sent it does not look like Juju is looking up error message, but I am not a go programmer
[20:31] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcoceppi/charms/precise/chamilo/unit-tests/+merge/234000
[20:37] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Looks great.  I will review and merge when I get a chance, or if you want to propose it upstream, that seems fine to me.
[20:38] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I may, but laziness is setting in
[20:38] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: And I'm being pulled in a couple directions, so... :)
[20:38] <marcoceppi> I thought you had some other things you were fixing
[20:38] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: well, it's not urgent ;)
[20:39] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: I was just adding tests, which you covered.
[21:22] <tvansteenburgh> fuzzy: new meteor charm is in the store now
[21:23] <fuzzy> cool
[21:46] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Oh yeah, we can't merge that upstream yet, because it relies on the charmhelpers changes.  Those still need tests as well; you didn't merge those, did you?
[21:47] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: not yet
[21:48] <cory_fu> Well, like I said, I need to add tests.  And I also want to add a helper for downloading a file & checksumming it
[22:27] <tiger7117> Hi
[22:28] <tiger7117> ERROR cannot assign unit "wordpress/0" to machine 2: series does not match
[22:28] <tiger7117> whats this meant ?
[22:28] <tiger7117> i gave this command # juju deploy wordpress --to=2
[22:28] <rick_h_> tiger7117: the charm you're deploying is one series (precise or trusty or something) and the machine is another. This is common if you try to colocate two different services on one machine
[22:29] <tiger7117> there is no other services on that machine No 2. so
[22:29] <rick_h_> tiger7117: right, but how did machine #2 come to be?
[22:30] <tiger7117> i was just deploying wordpress on # 2 and mysql # 3
[22:30] <tiger7117> i tried to deploy mysql and it worked with out any error message but for wordpress this Error message
[22:30] <rick_h_> tiger7117: does juju status show you what series is on machine #2? precise or trusty?
[22:31] <tiger7117> trusty
[22:31] <rick_h_> tiger7117: hmm, looks like no trusty wordpress charm
[22:32] <tiger7117> yes, looks like.. becoz now in juju status its showing Service: wordpress: charm: cs:precise/wordpress-26
[22:32] <tiger7117> and in Units: Wordpress/0, Agent-Status: pending
[22:32] <tiger7117> now ?
[22:34] <tiger7117> http://manage.jujucharms.com/~narindergupta/trusty/wordpress
[22:34] <rick_h_> so now you have to kill it off. juju resolved wordpress/0 and then juju destroy-service wordpress/0
[22:34] <rick_h_> tiger7117: yes, so that's someone's personal wordpress charm. I don't know anything about it.
[22:36] <tiger7117> # juju remove-service wordpress works .. destory-service unknow
[22:36] <tiger7117> well.. now what should i do to install/setup wordpress ?
[22:37] <rick_h_> tiger7117: so if you destory that machine and start over
[22:38] <rick_h_> there's a precise mysql charm that's been reviewed/etc
[22:38] <rick_h_> you can install it with juju deploy cs:precise/mysql
[22:39] <tiger7117> hmm.. so wordpress is in precise so now have to install mysql in precise ?
[22:39] <rick_h_> tiger7117: and then your juju deploy of the wordpress charm would work just fine
[22:39] <rick_h_> tiger7117: or use two machines, one precise and one trusty
[22:39] <tiger7117> how to make machine precise ?
[22:40] <rick_h_> you have to kill that machine and start over.
[22:40] <rick_h_> juju remove-machine I think
[22:41] <tiger7117> oh
[22:42] <tiger7117> i am using JuDo plugin for DigitalOcean
[22:42] <tiger7117> for adding machines of Digital Oceans
[22:59] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/swift-storage
[22:59] <jcastro> <-- reviewing trusty/mysql
[23:04] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/swift-proxy
[23:04] <jcastro> <-- review precise/tracks
[23:05] <aisrael> reviewing precise/thinkup
[23:05] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/rsyslog-forwarder-ha
[23:07] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/rsyslog
[23:08] <lazyPower-sprint> cs:trusty/quantum-gateway-5
[23:09] <mbruzek> cs:trusty/pgbadger-0
[23:09] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/postgresql
[23:10] <marcoceppi> cs:trusty/landscape-client-4
[23:11] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/ntp
[23:11] <arosales> arosales cs:trusy/openstack-dashboard
[23:14] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/nova-compute
[23:14] <jcastro> precise/cassandra
[23:14] <jcastro> is done!
[23:15] <jcastro> precise/juju-gui
[23:18] <jcastro> precise/lodgeit
[23:23] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/nova-cloud-controller
[23:23] <jose> jcastro: mind a quick PM?
[23:23] <jcastro> sure!
[23:24] <lazyPower-sprint> arosales: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8304170/
[23:25] <tvansteenburgh> trusty/mongodb
[23:25] <kwmonroe> precise/pictor-3
[23:26] <lazyPower-sprint> mbruzek: https://code.launchpad.net/~lazypower/charms/trusty/quantum-gateway/fix_proof/+merge/234023
[23:27] <lazyPower-sprint> cs:trusty/ntp-5
[23:30] <mwhudson> sooo
[23:31] <mwhudson> if i want a webpage with graphs of the load on all the machines i am deploying things with juju on
[23:31] <mwhudson> i need to read up about subordinate charms, right?
[23:32] <jcastro> both precise/juju-gui and trusty/juju-gui are done
[23:33] <jcastro> mwhudson, yep
[23:33] <jcastro> mwhudson, is it like a webui on each unit or an agent that reports to a centralized webui?
[23:34] <mwhudson> jcastro: more the latter
[23:34] <lazyPower-sprint> cs:trusty/keystone-7
[23:34] <jcastro> yeah so the agent would be a sub, the webui would be a normal charm
[23:34] <mwhudson> it's for a demo, i want to demonstrate load being spread across the cluster
[23:35] <mwhudson> jcastro: are there any of these charmed up already?  istr something about ganglia
[23:35] <jcastro> http://blog.dasroot.net/writing-the-papertrail-charm/
[23:35] <jcastro> check that out ^^^
[23:36] <jcastro> mwhudson, lazyPower-sprint just informed me that ganglia-node is a sub, probably what you want
[23:36] <jcastro> http://manage.jujucharms.com/charms/precise/ganglia-node
[23:37] <aisrael> cs:trusty/glance
[23:40] <mwhudson> jcastro: hmm thanks
[23:45] <lazyPower-sprint> did anyone land cs:trusty/jenkins yet?
[23:52] <jcastro> I'm taking precise/squid-forward-proxy
[23:53] <jcastro> I'm taking precise/vsftpd
[23:58] <jose> jcastro: do you have any more charms that fail proof?
[23:58] <jcastro> tons
[23:59] <jcastro> http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-tests-by-charm
[23:59] <jcastro> this is what we're going off right now
[23:59] <jose> cool, thanks
[23:59] <jcastro> the UI is not idea
[23:59] <jcastro> but if a charm proof is not 0, it failed
[23:59] <jcastro> adding tests also helps of course, heh


[00:18] <ner0x> Can anyone suggest to me a good diagraming program?
[00:19] <holstein> ner0x: diagraming what? any grahpics app should do grahpics like that.. gimp or whatever
[00:22] <tiziano_> ner0x: I use libreoffice draw for this task
[00:23] <ner0x> holstein: UML and logic
[00:59] <most> My computer lack sound after I install alsa-driver-RTv5.18. Could you help me?
[00:59] <holstein> most: did you undo the thing you did that broke it? and try agin?
[00:59] <holstein> again*
[01:00] <most> Thank you very much.
[01:00] <most> holstein
[01:01] <ochosi> holstein: i like your type of advice :D
[01:02] <ochosi> there should be a factoid for the bot like that
[01:02] <ochosi> and it could auto-respond to *any* problem/question
[01:03] <most> It lacks sound again.
[01:03] <holstein> most: sound *did* work before though? correct?
[01:04] <most> Yes. Before I install it.
[01:04] <holstein> most: so, from the live CD only?
[01:04] <most> I'm sorry for bad english.
[01:04] <most> from live USB.
[01:04] <holstein> most: no worries.. we'll get there :)
[01:05] <holstein> most: ok.. so, you ran a live USB, and sound was ok.. then, you installed, and its not working.. did you try applying any upgrades available? if not, try that now.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:05] <holstein> most: then, lets see the ouput of "aplay -l" and "arecord -l"
[01:06] <most> aplay -l  aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
[01:06] <most> arecord: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
[01:07] <holstein> most: also, please confirm that the audio device is not disabled in the bios..
[01:07] <holstein> most: you did recieve any updates?
[01:07] <most> No,I can't recieve any upgrade.
[01:08] <holstein> most: you mean, you ran the commands, and there are no available updates? they are already applied?
[01:08] <most> Yes,sir/madam.
[01:09] <holstein> most: could be as simple as a regression bug that is affecting your audio device.. the installed system is different than the live system in this way.. you likely applied updates during the installation
[01:10] <most> OK,If I don't know how to solve problem I will install Xubuntu again.
[01:10] <holstein> you could run the live CD, and see what kernel is installed there, and install that same kernel
[01:10] <holstein> most: if you do reinstall, i would try this.. dont apply updates during install. then, test the audio *before* upgrading
[01:11] <most> Thank you.
[01:12] <holstein> most: if it works, and the upgrades break it.. you can try booting the older kernel, and see if that is where the issue is.. if so..
[01:12] <holstein> !bug
[01:12] <holstein> but, you may want to consider looking upstream.. anything addressed upstream would trickle in... could be the kernel or, like you were trying, alsa
[01:13] <most> Do you understand Thai?
[01:20] <holstein> most: i dont, and i dont see a thai channel...
[01:21] <most> Funny.If you can't read this ไทย it mean you can't understand.
[01:24] <holstein> most: as i said, i dont.. i can use a translator, but i dont see a native thai channel here
[01:25] <holstein> !cn
[01:25] <holstein> maybe?
[01:26] <Unit193> !th
[01:26] <holstein> even better!
[02:27] <euryale> hi guys!
[02:27] <euryale> how to do i set icc profile for my monitor and printer??
[02:29] <holstein> !info gnome-color-manager
[02:29] <holstein> euryale: id try that ^
[02:29] <euryale> ok.
[02:29] <holstein> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/gnome-color-manager/
[02:29] <euryale> i thought before it's not applicable to xfce, cause it requires gnome environment.
[02:30] <holstein> euryale: you tried it?
[02:36] <euryale> sori, ok wait.
[02:38] <euryale> !holstein ahm i don't where gnome-color-manager went, i can't find the program in whisker menu or in settings.
[02:42] <holstein> euryale: try running it from the terminal
[02:44] <euryale> @holstein, tried this command but terminal can't find it. gnome-color-manager
[02:45] <euryale> using alt+f2 does not find anything either.
[02:45] <holstein> euryale: sure.. just relax.. i'll insatll it here, and learn how to run it
[02:45] <euryale> yay thanks. (goin to kitchen)
[02:58] <euryale> @holstein brb. lunch time.
[02:58] <holstein> euryale: im not interested in installing that
[02:58] <holstein> euryale: i dont have a way of testing icc profiles here
[02:59] <holstein> euryale: i got busy for a bit
[03:02] <krytarik> euryale: Just run "sed -i '/NoDisplay=true/d' /usr/share/applications/gcm-*", and they'll magically pop up in the menus. :P (This would be reverted on a package upgrade though.)
[03:03] <krytarik> euryale: Well, with "sudo" prepended, of course - forgot to add that. :)
[03:10] <Tom1> hello
[03:10] <sleezio> hello, is anyone(xubuntu) here using the Secret Agent Firefox addon? if so, did it break for you on the firefox 27.0.1 update?
[03:17] <krytarik> sleezio: Apparently, you should ask in #ubuntu too. :P
[03:18] <sleezio> yea, asking in #firefox atm
[03:18] <krytarik> Or that, yes. :)
[03:18] <sleezio> i sent the creator an email, no reply yet, i thought i'd beat the bushes on freenode
[03:18] <krytarik> Heh. :P
[03:23] <sleezio> hmm..just checked firefox website, linux version shows latest as 28
[03:23] <lokote_jones> Well, I broke my X installation. Sigh.
[03:24] <sleezio> oops, *beta*
[03:32] <euryale> @holstein. thank u.
[03:33] <euryale> @krytarik thank u i will try that too :)
[03:35] <euryale> !krytarik stil no luck.
[03:35] <euryale> @krytarik still no luck.
[03:48] <krytarik> euryale: You sure you checked in all relevant places, like Settings Manager too, for example?
[03:49] <euryale> yes i did.
[03:49] <euryale> gonna remove it now.
[03:50] <krytarik> euryale: Well, you can always run it from the command line too, with "gcm-calibrate", for example.
[03:50] <euryale> ok
[03:51] <euryale> it says: The program 'gcm-calibrate' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[03:51] <euryale> sudo apt-get install gnome-color-manager
[03:51] <euryale> i installed gnome-color-manager duh.
[03:52] <euryale> im confused ive installed that awhile ago.
[03:55] <krytarik> euryale: So is it installed now or not? :P (You can easily check that with "dpkg -l gnome-color-manager", for example.)
[03:55] <euryale> installed now.
[03:56] <euryale> it says: no device specified.
[03:57] <euryale> i was hoping for a gui, im not good with cli.
[04:03] <krytarik> euryale: Maybe rather have a look at something like this anyway: http://askubuntu.com/questions/199661/how-do-you-set-system-display-color-profiles-in-xubuntu-and-lubuntu
[04:05] <euryale> maybe i'll need the xicc
[04:05] <euryale> gonna check it out.
[04:08] <euryale> may its time to drop xfce :(
[04:31] <jonzen> xubu 14.04 beta1  network indicator applet disappeared  can any1 tell me how to restore it
[04:32] <jonzen> strange   connected to a network printer and scanned a few docs   then it was gone
[04:34] <jonzen> nevermind  i have an image of hdd  ill just restore it  see if it does it again
[05:33] <boldfilter1> IdleOne Ping
[05:38] <boldfilter1> Yolo
[05:39] <nekonoko> #swag
[05:39] <andry> o/ \o
[05:39] <boldfilter1> Unity sucks the D
[07:06] <behrooz> I add cs50.h to xubuntu 12.4 from this article https://manual.cs50.net/library/#_debian_ubuntu
[07:07] <behrooz> but when i compile my program it has error , this is error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7118384/
[07:07] <behrooz> how i solve problem ?
[07:08] <behrooz> please help me ?
[07:11] <baizon> behrooz: i think this is the wrong channel for this question. Ask in on #C++
[07:12] <behrooz> ok thank you very much
[08:41] <xubuntu956> hello,anybody has met the problem after installing libopencv-dev
[08:42] <xubuntu956> that some software like qt won't start
[08:42] <xubuntu956> throwing a error that can not initialize glx
[12:22] <Rinux> hi
[13:03] <Hedgework> Hey, all.  I'm on Xubuntu for the first time in ages -- I'm familiar with Debian and Ubuntu server, though -- and I used us(dvorak-alt-intl) as my preferred keymap.  IT set this machine up for me, and did something glitchy with the keymap (unless I'm logged in to Xfce4 I get qwerty, which means I have to try to log in on qwerty and use a terminal to setxkbmap after starting i3wm to get back to
[13:03] <Hedgework> us(dvorak-alt-intl))  Can someone point me to some documentation that would indicate what config files I should be editing to get my preferred keymap across the board?  (Xubuntu 13.10)
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !keymap
[13:07] <Hedgework> (I did try a web search, but all the docs were how to set keymap in the installer...*grumbles*)
[13:09] <Hedgework> cfhowlett: I think you mean ! layout, but that only addresses the keymap while in KDE/GNOME/XFCE...I want a system-wide change and I don't use any of those DEs
[13:09] <Hedgework> :/
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Hedgework, I'm not finding that solution via search ...
[13:10] <Hedgework> Me either, which is why I asked here. :(
[13:11]  * Hedgework goes about poking in vaguely relevant-sounding config files and hopes for the best
[14:51] <fballs> Hi, I recently switched to VLC from Parole, is there an easy way to associate all media files with VLC?
[14:53] <fballs> Or do I have to change them one at a time in Thunar?
[14:53] <GridCube> fballs, the faster way would be to remove parole, that way the only available program to play images will be vlc
[14:53] <ochosi> fballs: in the settings-manager there is a tool for that
[14:53] <GridCube> s/images/videos
[14:53] <ochosi> "mime type editor"
[14:53] <GridCube> else you can use the MIME TYPE editor to change the programs
[14:54] <fballs> does VLC not use gstreamer?
[14:54] <GridCube> i dont think so
[14:54] <fballs> k
[14:54] <Golynx> Hi . Sometimes when i'm working on my pc for a few hours, some programs, directories and tabs just dissapear. I try reopening them but then find that the closed programs are still running. I have no way of opening them again, since the tabs on the panel is gone . Is this a bug ?
[14:55] <GridCube> fballs, also vlc probably has an internal setting option to associate itself to files
[14:55] <GridCube> Golynx, are you sure you are nos just switching virtual desktops or rolling the windows?
[14:56] <Golynx> GridCube: it happens , the windows dissapear when i swipe an active window to another part of the screen
[14:56] <fballs> alright, i blew away Parole...seems to have worked, but for anything else, i'll use mime type editor. thank you both! ^^
[14:57] <GridCube> Golynx, rolling a window is done by using the scroll wheel over the title bar of a window, this is similar to minimizing it to the task bar, but the window title remains visible, switching virtual desktops is done by rolling the wheel mouse over an "empty" space in the desktop, like over the wallpaper, or by pressing ctrl-alt-→
[15:00] <Golynx> GridCube: i see, i'm on a laptop and the scroll is on the mousepad side. I didnt know about the rolling window thing.
[15:00] <GridCube> Golynx, yes, lots of people don't thats why in the next release this feature will be disabled by default
[15:01] <GridCube> Golynx, you have horizontal scroll enabled on your pad?
[15:01] <Golynx> GridCube: yes
[15:01] <GridCube> theres another issue related to that, if you have horizontal scroll then if you move the scroll wheel over the tittle bar of a window it turns transparent
[15:02] <GridCube> people also dont know about this feature and makes them freak out when their windows fade for no apparent reason
[15:02] <Golynx> I see, that explains why it just dissapears
[15:03] <GridCube> this will be also disabled by default (you will be able to keep making windows transparent by pressing alt and using the vertical scroll wheel)
[15:03] <Golynx> i'm glad you guys will disable this feature. Its annoying
[15:04] <GridCube> Golynx, its actually pretty useful when you learn about it :)
[15:04] <GridCube> but its anoying if you dont know whats happening and we have no way to provide a clue about whats going on in the current state of the things
[15:05] <GridCube> Golynx, that should cover all the reasons why a program might seem to dissapear but will still be running
[15:05] <Golynx> GridCube: Sure no problem then, i will try find a use for it. thanks for the help :)
[15:06] <GridCube> (ofcourse some particular programs might fail and close but remain open in the background for other particular reasons)
[15:06] <GridCube> but that would be a particular case and not something you see often
[15:07] <Golynx> yeah i like xubuntu , less crashes than other ubuntu versions, only sometimes when i use python IDLE gui :)
[15:55] <fballs> what's the best VM software?
[15:56] <fballs> virtualbox? QEMU? vmware?
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> !best | fballs
[15:59] <fballs> of course, but say performance-wise?
[16:32] <Hedgework> fballs: again, it depends on what exactly you are doing.
[16:47] <sohail-ahmed> sorry this question is not related to xubuntu, but its pretty simple. How can I give message to somebody here at IRC with his bold name in the front?
[16:47] <sohail-ahmed> ** name = nick
[16:50] <Hedgework> sohail-ahmed: If you say someone's full nick as I just did to you, their client should hilight the message to bring their attention to it.
[16:50] <Hedgework> sohail-ahmed: What exactly 'hilight' entails varies from client to client, but it's safe to assume that each user has set up a cue they find useful/comfortable.
[16:51] <sohail-ahmed> say Hedgework "just checking"
[16:51] <Hedgework> sohail-ahmed: Exactly.  Like that :)
[16:51] <sohail-ahmed> lol
[16:51] <Hedgework> You don't have to use 'say' explicitly, though :)
[16:51] <sohail-ahmed> it does not work
[16:51] <sohail-ahmed> Hedwork "testing"
[16:51] <Hedgework> sohail-ahmed: I saw the line hilighted.  Your client didn't hilight it because you are not Hedgework :)
[16:51] <sohail-ahmed> no
[16:52] <sohail-ahmed> I want to say in a format as you are writing
[16:52] <sohail-ahmed> what should I need to do
[16:52] <sohail-ahmed> as my name int the front
[16:52] <sohail-ahmed> surrely I want your name in the front.
[16:53] <sohail-ahmed> Simply how have you written this: sohail-ahmed: I saw the line hilighted.  Your client didn't hilight it because you are not Hedgework :)sohail-ahmed: I saw the line hilighted.  Your client didn't hilight it because you are not Hedgework :)
[16:53] <sohail-ahmed> sorry for the two pastes, as it took two secs
[16:54] <sohail-ahmed> sorry for being dumb
[16:54] <sohail-ahmed> I understand
[16:54] <sohail-ahmed> thanks for responding!!!!
[16:55] <Hedgework> np
[17:46] <m3741> hey everyone, i'm looking for the live-build auto/config script that is used to build xubuntu saucy. anyone have a url per chance?
[18:01] <xubuntu870> hello ppl!!
[18:02] <xubuntu870> how do i enable logging in xubuntu
[18:02] <xubuntu870> someone plzhelp me
[18:02] <GridCube> !patience | xubuntu870
[18:02] <mlnease> Hello, xubuntu870!  Sorry, but I'm brand new here myself--just learning the ropes.
[18:03] <GridCube> !details | xubuntu870
[18:04] <xubuntu870> i have just installed xubuntu 13.0 on my oracle vmware
[18:05] <xubuntu870> how do i enable logging service
[18:05] <xubuntu870> which is a part of my assignment
[18:07] <m3741> what exactly are you trying to log?
[18:08] <xubuntu870> i have to setup log viewer
[18:08] <xubuntu870> how do i enable it from terminal
[18:09] <knome> setting up log viewer is different from enabling logging; logging is enabled by default
[18:09] <xubuntu870> oh!!
[18:09] <xubuntu870> where do i see that
[18:09] <knome> well... install a log viewer or look under /var/log
[18:10] <knome> as you still haven't told what kind of logging you want to have, it's impossible to specify the log file
[18:10] <xubuntu870> i want to install log viewer
[18:11] <xubuntu870> could you just throw some light on that.
[18:11] <m3741> what exactly is your assignment?
[18:12] <xubuntu870> to install 2 linux os on vm ware
[18:12] <xubuntu870> setup user profiles
[18:12] <xubuntu870> logging
[18:12] <xubuntu870> syslogs
[18:12] <xubuntu870> secure ssh
[18:13] <xubuntu870> i have installed xubuntu and linpus
[18:14] <xubuntu870> created user profiles in xubuntu
[18:14] <xubuntu870> have to setup logviewer now..
[18:15] <m3741> ok, well there is a fair amount of logging that is enabled by default. all of this logging gets put into files under /var/log
[18:17] <m3741> what are you hoping to log?
[18:18] <m3741> maybe i misunderstood, you want to view logs generated by syslog? if so, you can run this in a terminal 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[18:20] <m3741> it will show you the last 10 lines of data logged by syslog and print out anything new from syslog
[18:20] <m3741> press Ctrl-C to stop it
[18:31] <xubuntu714> i typed as u said//its displaying invalid tail
[18:36] <m3741> would you copy and paste the error here?
[18:51] <Hedgework> m3741: May I pm?
[18:52] <m3741> sure
[19:28] <longbonglungfish> hey folks, has anyone found that after the most recent firefox update, that opening the containing folder of a download from within firefox, uses nautilus instead of thunar? and does anyone know a way to fix this?
[19:37] <Dry_Lips> Anyone who knows if a 64bit OS uses more system resources (such as ram, processor cycles) than a 32bit OS?
[19:37] <Dry_Lips> By accident I installed the 64bit version of Xubuntu on my laptop, and I've only got 2GB of ram and an old dual core processor...
[19:44] <bekks> Dry_Lips: The answer is: "a 64bit OS doesnt use noticable more resources than a 32bit OS."
[19:46] <Dry_Lips> Ok, thanks!
[19:52] <xubuntu573> всем привет
[19:52] <Unit193> !ru
[19:56] <gambitmen> всем привет
[19:56] <bekks> !ru | gambitmen
[20:10] <Ergo_Proxy> Hello..just installed xubuntu :)
[20:11] <fballs> me too!
[20:11] <fballs> welcome
[20:12] <Ergo_Proxy> Since you just installed xubuntu as well, I guess welcome to you too :P
[20:12] <baizon> :D
[20:16] <xubuntu668> hi there
[20:17] <openess> Hi. I was here yesterday with a couple of different live-disk problems. These solved themselves after initial update (after install)
[20:17] <openess> I just wanted to say thanx for the help, and say that my problems are solved, at least for now
[20:20] <sattelite_anthem> I have a question regarding my laptop's auto-screen-dimming feature- is there any way to turn it off in xubuntu?
[20:22] <baizon> sattelite_anthem: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/2-ways-to-temporarily-disable.html
[20:23] <sattelite_anthem> I have a laptop whose maximum brightness I can only reached by using "sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 f4.b=ff" on the command line. Any time I unplug the power cord though, it automatically changes my brightness to a lower setting. Is there any way I can stop this behavior?
[20:25] <baizon> sattelite_anthem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162182
[20:27] <sattelite_anthem> thanks, I'll look into that. Just so you know, I've googled countless threads already so that's why I'm here. I don't mean to be annoying
[20:27] <sattelite_anthem> my laptop is just strange in that I can't use the brightness buttons to reach the *actual* max brightness unless  I use the setpci command
[20:29] <baizon> sattelite_anthem: np, if the last link i've posted doesnt help just report back
[20:30] <sattelite_anthem> I'm installing dconf-tools, I hope this helps. thanks!
[20:36] <sattelite_anthem> hmm, I changed the right setting in dconf editor and the problem is still there
[20:37] <sattelite_anthem> see my problem isn't that it dims the screen because it doesn't really dim the screem. It just resets the brightness to the maximum brightness that is attainable using my keyboard keys. I want it to remain unchanged after I do set-pci to alter the brightness to the actual maximum.
[20:41] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <xubuntu714> how do i enable logging viewer in xubuntu
[20:42] <Unit193> !repeat | xubuntu714
[20:42] <Unit193> xubuntu714: Don't do that.
[20:42] <baizon> sattelite_anthem: have you tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/323846/how-do-i-get-the-brightness-keys-working-on-an-acer-aspireone-d255
[20:42] <baizon> xubuntu714: sorry, but i dont understand your question
[20:42] <m3741> xubuntu714: did you read my note from earlier?
[20:43] <baizon> xubuntu714: which logging viewer do you mean?
[20:43] <xubuntu714> i have to enable logging feature
[20:43] <xubuntu714> i dont know wat it is
[20:43] <knome> xubuntu714, as you are told, logging is enabled by defautl.
[20:43] <xubuntu714> am new to xubuntu
[20:44] <Ergo_Proxy> Wait, what "logging" is enabled by default knome ?
[20:44] <baizon> xubuntu714: yes, like knome said, logging is enabled. It's under /var/log
[20:44] <xubuntu714> where can i find log viewer
[20:44] <baizon> xubuntu714: use your default text editor and open the log you want
[20:44] <Hedgework> xubuntu714: You have received nothing but patience from this channel, despite not asking questions in a reasonable manner and demanding all sorts of hand-holding.  Please read http://binaryredneck.net/support-leech and consider showing more respect for those trying to help you, then return and try again.
[20:44] <knome> Ergo_Proxy, system status logging, like kernel messages.
[20:44] <knome> Ergo_Proxy, for debugging
[20:45] <Ergo_Proxy> Alright, thank you knome
[20:45] <knome> Ergo_Proxy, nothing is sent outside your PC automatically. just for your convenience
[20:45] <xubuntu714> command to view log files
[20:45] <xubuntu714> ??
[20:46] <knome> xubuntu714, please.
[20:46] <Ergo_Proxy> xubuntu714, /var/log as someone said earlier
[20:46] <Ergo_Proxy> the files are there
[20:46] <baizon> xubuntu714: use your default text editor and open the log you want
[20:46] <baizon> xubuntu714: also, google would give you an good answer for this
[20:46] <xubuntu714> please tell me to get there..i mean all commands to get there
[20:47] <Ergo_Proxy> You don't need a command
[20:47] <baizon> xubuntu714: open your text editor, then press "open file", then go /var/log/messages.log for example
[20:47] <baizon> and you have your log file
[20:47] <xubuntu014> help! I need to use my Epson WF-2540 printer and for the life of me can't figure out how to install it!
[20:47] <m3741> xubuntu714: what is error of the tail command that I gave you earlier?
[20:47] <Ergo_Proxy> Just open the file manager, click on "File System", then on the folder "var" and then on the folder "log"
[20:48] <baizon> yeah or this way, thanks Ergo_Proxy
[20:48] <Ergo_Proxy> You can open the filer manager with Alt+F by default
[20:48] <Ergo_Proxy> file*
[20:49] <Unit193> baizon: messages.log is a Redhat thing, it's syslog here. :)
[20:49] <baizon> ah to many logs :D
[20:49] <baizon> i always dmesg xD
[20:52] <xubuntu714> thank you
[20:52] <xubuntu714> ppl
[20:52] <baizon> np
[20:58] <xubuntu714> how to enable syslog
[20:59] <knome> xubuntu714, syslog is enabled by default. find it at /var/log/syslog.
[21:01] <xubuntu714> thanku
[21:05] <xubuntu714> how to enable password configuration
[21:06] <xubuntu714> how to password configure
[21:08] <xubuntu714> hello ppl
[21:08] <xubuntu714> how do i feature password configuration
[21:08] <knome> !patience | xubuntu714
[21:09] <Unit193> "feature password configuration"?
[21:11] <xubuntu714> ya
[21:12] <xubuntu714> feature pwd config
[21:12] <knome> xubuntu714, you are not making sense
[21:13] <xubuntu714> i have to enable password configuration feature
[21:13] <xubuntu714> pz help me do that
[21:13] <Hedgework> xubuntu714: So, you said this is a school project...I can't help but be curious...did you just not pay any attention in class, or did your teacher really give you an assignment you don't even have the vocabulary to make proper sense of?
[21:24] <xubuntu714> how to Configure secure socket protocols (e.g., ssh)
[21:26] <xubuntu714> how to Configure secure socket protocols (e.g., ssh)
[21:26] <elfy> xubuntu714: stop doing that
[21:26] <elfy> if people want to answer you then they will
[21:28] <fballs> anyone know if there's a thunar script for mounting iso images?
[21:29] <fballs> i found one for ubuntu, but it uses gksudo
[21:29] <Hedgework> xubuntu714: I've tried correcting gently, I've tried cluebatting you, and I've tried getting to the root of the problem.  I give up.  You are apparently more interested in getting others to do your homework for you than you are in learning, and quite willing to be rude to the people whom you are asking for free help.  Consider that there's a reason you aren't getting what you want: the way you are behaving
[21:29] <Hedgework> is bad enough that my 11yo son would be ashamed in your place.
[21:32] <xubuntu714> how to Configure secure socket protocols (e.g., ssh)
[21:33]  * Hedgework weighs the benefits of filtering xubuntu714 against the possibility that someone who's not so rude may end up with that nick in the future
[21:33]  * Hedgework plonks
[21:34] <knome> xubuntu714, last warning: please stop
[21:34] <knome> xubuntu714, we will not be doing your assignment for you
[21:44] <fballs> is there a version of gksudo or kdesudo for xfce?
[21:45] <krytarik> !info gksu | fballs
[21:45] <knome> fballs, gksudo is good for xubuntu
[21:46] <fballs> ah ok, thanks. i'm still trying to get my head around what runs in what DE
[21:46] <knome> well, pretty much everything runs everywhere
[21:46] <knome> there aren't always xfce-specific components
[21:46] <knome> and even if there were, you wouldn't have to use them
[21:47] <misingnoglic> I just installed xubuntu on my dell inspiron mini, how do I make wifi work?
[21:47] <fballs> k...i'm still kinda setting things up and i'm in the "try not to break anything phase"
[21:48] <fballs> i loaded gnome-tweak-tool and xfce didn't like that :D
[21:51] <fballs> thanks for the help <3
[22:29] <zleap> hi all
[23:43] <zleap> how does my latest post to twitter look :)
[23:44] <Unit193> I think you're looking for #xubuntu-offtopic, and may want to provide a link as well.
[23:46] <zleap> sorry
[23:46] <zleap> https://twitter.com/zleap14
[23:47] <zleap> well i posted the flyer for start ubuntu / xubuntu to twitter,  the xubutu team is really on the ball with everything,  the whole system looks very polished


[18:14] <Alexcu> Hello!!
[19:45] <efactusa> Hey everyone I just want to thank you all for the wonderful OS on behalf of me and the people of france and the crew at http://www.myefact.com we wouldnt have been able to do half of what we do if it wasn't for Ubuntu so THANKS UBUNTU DEVS!!!!!