[00:11] <ghostsan> hi im a new user to kubuntu
[00:11] <ghostsan> but are new in general to computer
[00:11] <ghostsan> i got a few questions
[00:12] <ghostsan> 1st question if i upgrade to the new 9.04 will it delete the programs i have installed, will i have to download all the programs again?
[00:12] <Pici> If you use the upgrade functions from within Kubuntu it will upgrade the versions of software that you already have.
[00:12] <Pici> It would be kind of useless if if deleted everything
[00:12] <Pici> !upgrade
[00:13] <ghostsan> thanks
[00:13] <ghostsan> 2nd questiong, can i save docs on windows from kubuntu??
[00:13] <ghostsan> i used mandriva a little and it would let me save docs on windows
[00:13] <ghostsan> would not
[00:14] <tertitten> anyone know a good and safe way to move a kubuntu installation from one partition to another, update fstab and then update grub ? as I'm asking here http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3104243.msg183233#new
[00:14] <Pici> You can mount your Windows drives from within Kubuntu, but you probably won't be able to do the same from windows.  Theres a tool you can use on windows to write to the ext2 filesystem type, but I've had iffy experience with it in the past.
[00:15] <ghostsan> thanks alot Mr. Pici
[00:15] <MrDarkUser> Anybody know how to disable Tap-to-click on trackpads once and for-all ? This new fdi setup makes it a bit of a pain.  I don't want to set SHMconfig to be on, I just want tap to click to be gone gone gone
[00:18] <MrDarkUser> I already tried editing the fdi file:  11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[00:20] <tertitten> MrDarkUser: have you sheck if there's any ui packages for that particular device/driver ?
[00:20] <tertitten> *checked
[00:20] <liz2> is there another cd/dvd burning software that I can use other than k3b since mine is not working?
[00:20] <MrDarkUser> tertitten: there is qsynaptics, but I couldn't get the shmconfig option to be on
[00:21] <tertitten> to bad
[00:21] <MrDarkUser> liz2: in my experience k3b has some good diagnostics
[00:21] <MrDarkUser> liz2:  I'm starting it up to see if I can help
[00:22] <liz2> MRDarkUser: my pc suffers from many defects and it seems k3b is now one of them
[00:22] <MrDarkUser> liz2: settings configure k3b, then programs.. it gives green checkmarks if programs are configured correctly
[00:24] <MrDarkUser> liz2: There is always the commandline... cdrecord and the make iso fs...   another obsitcle is how much stuff is running in the background?  "top" can help you figure out if a program is taking too many resources
[00:24] <liz2> you mean the cddb configure?
[00:25] <liz2> I want to make a data disk for my pictures
[00:26] <liz2> MRDarkUser: nm now I know what u meant :)
[00:28] <MrDarkUser> liz2: you may also need to select a lower writing speed.
[00:28] <liz2> everything green except emovie, sox, transcode, vcdxbuild, vcdxminfo, and vcdxrip which were not found
[00:28] <MrDarkUser> liz2: or your computer has a dirty cd burner ;)
[00:29] <wizardslovak> whats the command to unrar?
[00:29] <liz2> I get to the drag and drop menu but when it's time to burn, the cd does not start
[00:29] <MrDarkUser> wizardslovak:  unrar --help  or man unrar
[00:30] <MrDarkUser> liz2:  does it work it windows? or any other changes to the computer recently?
[00:30] <genii> wizardslovak:  If "command not found" install some un-rar app
[00:30] <genii> !unrar
[00:30] <wizardslovak> ok i got unrar-free
[00:30] <wizardslovak> can you actually tell me command
[00:31] <MrDarkUser> wizardslovak: with unrar it's either e or x depending if you want the full path or just the files.  unrar x file.rar
[00:32] <liz2> MrDarkUser: yes it works in windows, my pc is in peril, only way I got to boot linux was through grub
[00:32] <genii> wizardslovak: Usually like: unrar-free -x rarfile destination
[00:32] <liz2> which is why I need to do some backup now
[00:33] <MrDarkUser> liz2: most people get to linux thru the grand unified boot loader...
[00:34] <harjot[1]> ok guys how do u unhold held packages in kubuntu apt-get or aptitude etc...
[00:34] <liz2> no my linux won't boot into login, nothing but black screen, I created supergrubdisk to get into grub and sign in
[00:34] <harjot[1]> liz2 still online
[00:35] <liz2> <--- never sleeps lol
[00:35] <harjot[1]> does anyone no how to unhold packages held by aptitude or apt-get
[00:35] <MrDarkUser> liz2: so something else is wrong..  sounds like you might have changed the disk order
[00:36] <MrDarkUser> harjot[1]: unhold?   are you thinking like in gentoo?
[00:36] <harjot[1]> no when i try to update, it says 151 not upgraded
[00:36] <liz2> MrDarkUser: you might know xjjk and daskreech and others have tried to help the night b4, it's a rare lost cause
[00:36] <MrDarkUser> harjot: you can add  backports repositories, and experimental repositories...
[00:36] <liz2> planning on reinstall
[00:37] <harjot[1]> this is because the packages are reported as held
[00:37] <Pici> harjot[1]: How are you trying to upgrade?
[00:37] <harjot[1]> sudo apt-get upgrade/update
[00:37] <harjot[1]> or aptitude
[00:37] <harjot[1]> then press u
[00:38] <harjot[1]> i need to update else i cant login to KDM
[00:38] <MrDarkUser> liz2: the tutorial for fixing grub is pretty straight forward...  once you're in with the boot disk, you should be able to repair grub
[00:38] <Pici> harjot[1]: if ther are new packages that have new dependencies then you'll need to use apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:38] <harjot[1]> no i dont wont to change to 9.04
[00:38] <Pici> harjot[1]: dist-upgrade does not upgrade to a new release, its a common misconception
[00:39] <harjot[1]> it says though there
[00:39] <Pici> Where?
[00:39] <harjot[1]> ??????/
[00:39] <liz2> I've tried repairing grup and it says done, still remains the same
[00:39] <harjot[1]> when you type sudo apt-get it lists all parameters
[00:39] <Pici> harjot[1]: It doesn't upgrade to a new release. Trust me. I use it all the time.
[00:40] <harjot[1]> ok and if it doesn't work il come back [rite now im on crappy windows dual-boot]
[00:43] <liz2> I just saw that under k3b settings, devices, under writer drives it shows none, maybe that's the prob
[00:46] <liz2> ok, k3b is not detecting my cdwriter... how can I fix this???
[00:47] <harjot[1]> ok back
[00:47] <harjot[1]> helpful
[00:47] <harjot[1]> command
[00:48] <harjot[1]> mr dark user
[00:48] <harjot[1]> are u there?
[00:48] <harjot[1]> ty for the advice
[00:48] <Pici> me?
[00:49] <harjot[1]> yes
[00:49] <harjot[1]> thanks 4 the help
[00:49] <Pici> Sure, no problem.
[00:49] <harjot[1]> still problem thouhg
[00:50] <harjot[1]> the packages are displayed diffrerently and look as if they r about to be downloaeded
[00:50] <harjot[1]> then it says failed to dowload
[00:50] <harjot[1]> blah
[00:50] <harjot[1]> blah
[00:50] <harjot[1]> blah]
[00:51] <harjot[1]> this is becuase thee packages are apparently being ''held'' 4 some reason [i hate the word now]
[00:51] <harjot[1]> Pici: could u help plz
[00:51] <harjot[1]> |
[00:52] <genii> !enter | harjot[1]
[00:52] <harjot[1]> you just wanted to do that i bet lol
[00:53] <genii> harjot[1]: Hitting Enter after every word or two gets really annoying for people here to read. Especially when it's just the same word like "blah" a few times.
[00:53] <harjot[1]> thisi knw soz
[00:53] <harjot[1]> i should rlly put it on line
[00:53] <harjot[1]> in 1 line i meant
[00:54] <harjot[1]> Please could comeone tell me how to unhold packages???
[00:54] <genii> harjot[1]: Use the pastebin website to put the exact messages you're getting from the upgrade attempt. Like what the package names of the held back ones are, etc etc
[00:54] <genii> !pastebin
[00:55] <harjot[1]> umm.... i cant this is windows im using [dual-boot]
[00:55] <harjot[1]> i ned to upgrade cause my keyboard wont work at kdm screen buit wrks at tty
[00:56] <harjot[1]> i cant list them all there are 151 packages unless i use dist-upgrade!!!
[00:56] <genii> harjot[1]: There is a command line irc client called irssi which you can use. Also there is package pastebinit which is for text-based pasting
[00:56] <harjot[1]> oh.. really but how do i copy and paste from tty????????????/
[00:57] <genii> harjot[1]: When you have pastebinit     it can put the output of a command to the website, and just gives the URL back for you.
[00:57] <alan> b
[00:57] <harjot[1]> pastebinit and irssi??? is that what i nede
[00:58] <genii> harjot[1]: Alternately boot to livecd and return here. Where you can mount the ubuntu disk partition, read some dpkg logs there and pastebin those for us
[00:58] <harjot[1]> ok so apt-get install pastebinit and apt-get install irssi???
[00:59] <harjot[1]> which is quicker?????????
[00:59] <harjot[1]> cause i must sleep soon
[00:59] <genii> harjot[1]: If you are not comfy at commandline, boot to the livecd and come back here
[00:59] <harjot[1]> i like commandline
[00:59] <harjot[1]> will u be here tommrow???
[01:00] <genii> We're here every day.
[01:00] <harjot[1]> so u'll be here tommorrow to ask????
[01:00] <genii> Yes.
[01:01] <harjot[1]> in that case i'll get some sleep goto school do my homework and come back here in evening
[01:01] <harjot[1]> ok bye
[01:01] <harjot[1]> BtW im in primary school up to year 8 [im in year 7!!!]
[01:01] <harjot[1]> lol
[01:01] <harjot[1]> bye
[01:23] <juan> espanich
[01:23] <juan> q pasa
[01:24] <genii> !es | juan
[02:10] <sven_> Running stable version of Ubuntu 9.10. trying to install grafix drivers for ATI Raedon 9600. the manual suggests xorg-driver-fglrx, but it isn't working properly still
[02:13] <liz2> is it normal for lilo.conf to be empty?
[02:14] <faileas> hmm, dosen't kubuntu use grub by default?
[02:14] <Kovert> liz2: arent we on grub now
[02:15] <Serpardum[]> yes
[02:15] <Serpardum[]> not grub 2 though
[02:15] <Serpardum[]> lilo is dead I understand
[02:15] <liz2> not on grub, I opened lilo.conf with kate
[02:16] <Kovert> li means dead
[02:16] <Serpardum[]> just because it exists doesn't mean it's being used
[02:16] <liz2> oh, so I cant do any changes there
[02:16] <Serpardum[]> my only lili is in: /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/lilo.conf
[02:16] <Serpardum[]> You can, they'll just be meaningless
[02:17] <liz2> ok
[02:17] <liz2> anyone else know how I can enable scsi emulation?
[02:18] <Serpardum[]> I"m not sure it needs to be emulated?
[02:19] <Kovert> liz2: what are you trying to do?
[02:19] <liz2> Kovert: my k3b isn't recognizing my cd drive as writable
[02:21] <talaman> where are the start/stop/on boot Deamon options for Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-11-generic..  Basically if i do a kill -9 on a Deamon, where can i go to restart it?
[02:21] <Kovert> liz2: seriously check cables
[02:22] <liz2> Kovert: what do you mean check cables?
[02:23] <Kovert> liz2: the cd rom cables are you sure also they are scsi?
[02:23] <claydoh> talaman: most of the start/stop scripts for daemons are found in /etc/init.d folder
[02:24] <claydoh> talaman: ie $sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start|stop|restart is for kdm
[02:24] <talaman> claydoh, are you saying they removed the gui that allowed you to click start or stop?
[02:24] <liz2> Kovert: I don't know, I didn't install it, it's in the tower
[02:25] <claydoh> talaman: most of them, though some are in system settings' srvices section
[02:25] <Kovert> liz2: is the maachine isnt over 5 years old I doube it is scsi
[02:26] <talaman> wow, that was stupid of them
[02:26] <talaman> ok, wonder how far back i need to go to get that back
[02:27] <Kovert> anyone know postgreSQL?
[02:28] <claydoh> talaman: well, if you kill it in a terminal, why not stop/restart it in a better fashion there :)
[02:28] <claydoh> talaman: but, yeah, there doesn't seem to be any kde4 based tool for that that I can see
[02:36] <talaman> bbl
[02:42] <leatherdruid> Can anyone help me diagnose an fstab cdrom problem?
[02:50] <tanmay> Hi
[03:24] <Adola> Hey, Does Kubuntu 9.10 auto install xorg if your card isn't supported by FGLRX?
[04:10] <contrast> Greets, everyone. Anyone here using the panel spacer plasmoid? Mine doesn't want to stay put - it moves itself everytime I log out and back in.
[04:13] <liz2> hi everyone I'm back, Is there a way to find out if kubuntu is detecting my cd drive?
[04:18] <contrast> liz2: Open K3b (Kickoff Menu -> Applications -> Multimedia), or you could pop a CD in and check the device notifier plasmoid on the panel.
[04:18] <underdog7> does anyone know a good hardware-help channel?
[04:19] <contrast> underdog7: what exactly are you needing to know?
[04:20] <underdog7> i'm having some issues with my laptop, and i'm pretty sure its hardware.  i need to trouble shoot.
[04:20] <underdog7> contrast, do you have hardware experience?
[04:21] <contrast> some, yes.
[04:21] <contrast> !ask
[04:21] <contrast> :)
[04:21] <liz2> contrast: well when I pop in a cd I noticed that the drive that's opening is the dvd-rom drive, yet I have a cdrw drive and it isn't opening
[04:22] <liz2> and k3b is not detecting a writable drive
[04:22] <contrast> is there a disc in there?
[04:22] <contrast> ahh
[04:23] <underdog7> sure.  it's irradict, but when i boot my laptop, it freezes -- this happens in any spot:  windows logo bootup, linux start; doesn't matter.  the HD light just goes out and that's it.  then if i actually get into an OS, it will eventualyl freeze -- mouse freeze -- everthing is dead.  windows has recently been telling me that "a USB port is experiencing a power surge."
[04:23] <liz2> contrast: there's no disc in any of them
[04:24] <Zorix> probably overheating
[04:25] <Zorix> try memtest on grub boot loader
[04:25] <underdog7> Zorix, so how do i go about (physically) repairing that?  new processor?  new fan?
[04:25] <contrast> liz2: in K3b, go to Settings -> Configure K3b -> Devices. Nothing is coming up under Writer Drives?
[04:25] <Zorix> does it seem to be moving air out of the vent
[04:26] <liz2> contrast: nothing
[04:26] <underdog7> Zorix:  yes, there is a light breeze
[04:27] <Zorix> could also be hard drive issues
[04:27] <contrast> liz2: you might try booting a live cd from the drive in question, just to make sure it is in fact working
[04:27] <contrast> liz2: what brand drive is it?
[04:27] <contrast> liz2: and how old?
[04:27] <underdog7> Zorix, how long should i take this through a memtest?
[04:28] <Zorix> depends on the amount of ram, usually hours
[04:28] <Zorix> also try booting a live cd as well and see if it freezes during usage there.. could indicate the problems are hard drive related instead
[04:29] <liz2> contrast: I can't get the cdrw drive to open, all I know it's a hp cd-writer, more than 6-10 yrs old
[04:29] <underdog7> zorix:  hmm, okay.  thanks.  i have a feeling that it isn't tho -- sometimes, when that error happens, even the HP logo won't even show up when i turn on the laptop -- just black screen -- and i have to wait (keep it shut down) for a while to get the screen to come on during boot
[04:30] <liz2> between 6-10 yrs^
[04:30] <Zorix> does it do it while on battery or plugged in or both
[04:30] <underdog7> both
[04:30] <contrast> liz2: if it won't even open before kubuntu boots up (i.e., as soon as you power your computer on), it's probably time to replace it. you can get a dvd+-rw drive for ~$40
[04:31] <Zorix> try running on ac without the battery plugged in then and remove any devices you have plugged in such as usb, firewire, pcmcia, etc
[04:31] <underdog7> Zorix: i have. still the same.
[04:31] <contrast> liz2: you could open up your box and make sure all the connections are secure, but barring that, i'd say trying to fix it would be more trouble than it's worth, unless it has some sentimental value. :)
[04:31] <Zorix> did you go into bios and reload defaults?
[04:32] <underdog7> no, but i wil now
[04:32] <underdog7> i think it crashed on memtest -- but just a freeze
[04:32] <Zorix> its most likely a hardware issue
[04:32] <Zorix> if it freezes on memtest it could still be something else
[04:32] <liz2> contrast: you think that would solve the problem? and if I did buy dvdrw where would it be placed, in place of cdrw or replace dvdrom?
[04:33] <Zorix> does it seem to occur when the machine has been on for a while or does it do it when you first turn it on after being off for hours
[04:34] <underdog7> yeah, that's the thign -- from what i've been experiencing, it seems like it may be heating -- b/c at first, when first turned on, i can actually get into an OS.  it's lagging so bad -- like i'll barely get to grub now
[04:34] <Zorix> hmm
[04:34] <Zorix> i seen bad ram do that too
[04:35] <Zorix> its easier to swap out ram and eliminate that possibility than others
[04:35] <underdog7> okay, so what does it seem like it could be:  (1) over-heating, (2) bad ram; is that it, you think?
[04:35] <Zorix> could be motherboard/processor damage too
[04:35] <contrast> liz2: i'd replace the drive that isn't working. ;)
[04:36] <Zorix> the only thing it does eliminate is battery, hard drive, optical drive
[04:36] <underdog7> Zorix: okay.  thanks.  unfortuntely, it will be difficult to repair since i have no extra hardware. i really appreciated your help.
[04:37] <Zorix> actually, it still could be the hard drive if there is controller trouble.. remove the hard drive and boot using live cd and see if it still occurs in bios or cd
[04:37] <liz2> contrast: I think you might be right, I checked in kinfocenter, found my drive names and through terminal, one ejects but not the other
[04:37] <underdog7> one last thing tho:  if it is overheating, what do i reploace?
[04:37] <Zorix> it could be freezing when trying to detect the hard drive
[04:37] <underdog7> just the fan?
[04:37] <underdog7> hmm, okay, i will do that, too.
[04:37] <Zorix> it depends, a heatsink could have come loose
[04:37] <underdog7> (but i must take the HD out tho, right?)
[04:37] <Zorix> fan might not be working right
[04:37] <contrast> liz2: bingo.
[04:37] <Zorix> yea you have to take the hd out
[04:37] <Zorix> to test that
[04:37]  * contrast doesn't understand why KInfoCenter isn't installed by default.
[04:38] <underdog7> okay, thanks zorix.  and for the overheating thing, if it is that, i just replace the fan?  or would i have to replace the processor?
[04:38] <Zorix> well it may not be an easy part to find
[04:39] <underdog7> hmm, okay.  thanks zorix.
[04:39] <liz2> dang...new dvdrw drive it is, and k3b will detect automatically right?
[04:39] <Zorix> what i do with my old laptop that has overheat issues and i need to run it for a while i get an ice pack and put a tower over it and put the laptop on top of it
[04:40] <Zorix> it will cool it down.. if that seems to help it could tell you something
[04:40] <contrast> liz2: it should
[04:40] <contrast> liz2: have you installed anything like that before?
[04:40] <contrast> internal, i mean
[04:40] <liz2> contrast: no :)
[04:40] <underdog7> zorix, hmm, yeah, thanks.  my roommate might have a fan base for his laptop that i can borrow
[04:40] <Zorix> good luck
[04:40] <underdog7> thanks Zorix.  i appreciate the tips.
[04:41] <Zorix> np
[04:41] <liz2> I've been told it's like a puzzle, color coded and such
[04:41] <underdog7> oh, zorix, btw, is there any software that i may be able to run that can help me detect the problem??
[04:41] <Zorix> i think pc-check is the best tool its just really expensive
[04:42] <underdog7> do you know if it is on HIren's bootcd?
[04:42] <contrast> liz2: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-a-CD/DVD-ROM-into-an-IBM/Windows-PC
[04:42] <Zorix> probably not
[04:42] <underdog7> okay, thanks zorix.  peace dude!
[04:42] <Zorix> http://www.eurosoft-uk.com/pc_check.htm
[04:42] <contrast> liz2: well, not quite color-coded, but still fairly self-explanatory. just remember the cd drive comes out through the *front* of your computer. i didn't know that going in and mistakenly removed my power supply to get the drive out. -_~
[04:43] <Zorix> good luck
[04:43] <liz2> contratst: cool, thanks
[04:43] <contrast> np
[04:46] <liz2> on another note, anyone know why I'd be having problems transfering files into an sd card?
[04:47] <Zorix> whats the error
[04:47] <contrast> Anyone here using the panel spacer plasmoid? Mine doesn't want to stay put - it moves itself everytime I log out and back in.
[04:48] <Zorix> probably another kde bug
[04:49] <liz2> sometimes I get error that file doesn't exist and sometimes it copies but disappears
[04:49] <Zorix> does it work from a shell?
[04:50] <liz2> Zorix: no, from shell it tells me Omitting: (the file path of the file)
[04:51] <Zorix> when you use the cp command?
[04:51] <liz2> Zorix: yep, tres wierd
[04:51] <Zorix> what file is it omitting
[04:52] <liz2> Zorix: the file I want to copy/move
[04:52] <Zorix> is it a specific type of file each time
[04:53] <Zorix> maybe the file is too large
[04:53] <Zorix> could be corrupted
[04:53] <Zorix> sd card could be mounted read only
[04:53] <liz2> Zorix: the files are quite large, picture folders
[04:54] <Zorix> do you have enough room to copy
[04:54] <contrast> liz2: are the filenames fat32 compliant?
[04:54] <liz2> yes, 6gb in sd card
[04:54] <Zorix> good point
[04:54] <Zorix> is the sd card fat32?
[04:55] <contrast> liz2: that's almost a definite yes unless you've formatted it as something else
[04:55] <liz2> I don't know that one, the pictures came from the same sd card of the camera
[04:56] <Zorix> ok
[04:56] <contrast> liz2: and you're copying the pictures individually, as opposed to an .zip file that contains all of them?
[04:57] <Zorix> best bet is to copy the output of the cp command to a pastebin and link it here
[04:58] <liz2> sure thing
[04:58] <Zorix> one nasty zip file if it hit the fat32 file size limit
[04:58] <liz2> contrast: I tried copying the folders the pics are in, not a .zip
[04:59] <Zorix> did you use cp -R
[05:02] <liz2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185386/
[05:03] <liz2> Zorix: no, just cp
[05:03] <contrast> liz2: whenever you're copying, moving, or removing directories, you have to use the -r (recursive) option.
[05:05] <liz2> contrast: oh, never knew that
[05:06] <liz2> I'll try cp -R and let you know
[05:06] <Zorix> moving you dont need to
[05:06] <contrast> err, yeah. whoops
[05:11] <liz2> the copy did work, but I copied to the wrong place!! Aaaahhhh!
[05:12] <liz2> I don't need -R when moving correct?
[05:12] <contrast> right
[05:14] <liz2> what does 'failed to preserve ownership...' in terminal mean?
[05:15] <contrast> that the destination files won't have the same owner as the ones you're copying. shouldn't matter in this case though
[05:15] <Zorix> fat32 doesnt have security permissions
[05:16] <Zorix> yea doesnt matter
[05:16] <genii> Windows filesystems don't honour/have same file permission system as *nix, etc etc
[05:16] <liz2> Oh, good, then it worked! :)
[05:16] <genii> Even if you used -a to preserve permissions you woulda got same thing
[05:16] <liz2> <-- feels like crying
[05:17] <contrast> hehe
[05:17] <genii> May want to do a chown on the new stuff now over to the owner on the ubuntu box which will use them
[05:17] <contrast> genii: it's just on an sd card for her digital camera
[05:18] <genii> Hm
[05:19] <contrast> Anyone here using the panel spacer plasmoid? Mine doesn't want to stay put - it moves itself everytime I log out and back in.
[05:19] <genii> Ah, ONTO the sd card FROM linux. Yeah then doesn't care
[05:20] <liz2> :) hurray
[05:22] <contrast> well, i'm off. g'nite, everyone.
[05:41] <xjjk> liz2: how's it going?
[05:49] <ElTimo> i accidentally uninstalled my display manager, and i need to get a wireless connection to reinstall it. i only have a command line system currently
[05:51] <liz2> xjjk: I thought it was going well.. I was able to login to linux using supergrubdisk and using grub commands
[05:52] <liz2> xjjk: and was happily cp files to sd card and now find out the pics won't open from them... never ending prob it seems
[05:59] <xjjk> why won't they open from the SD card?
[05:59] <ProfOak> xjjk is there an error message?
[06:03] <liz2> xjjk: when guenview opens it nothing shows
[06:03] <xjjk> liz2: is there an error message...
[06:03] <liz2> xjjk: none at all, guenview opens but not the picture
[06:04] <xjjk> liz2: did you try another viewer?
[06:04] <xjjk> firefox perhaps?
[06:04] <ProfOak> Oh woops
[06:05] <xjjk> has anyone used Linux's RAID10?
[06:05] <xjjk> I'm about to set it up... wondering if anyone had experiences
[06:06] <liz2> xjjk: not firefox either
[06:06] <xjjk> liz2: bleh
[06:12] <liz2> truly unbelievable I say
[06:12] <xjjk> liz2: again, I'm wondering whether your hardware is OK... is the disk in your desktop dying?
[06:12] <xjjk> liz2: type sudo dmesg
[06:12] <xjjk> see if you see anything related to ata or sata
[06:12] <xjjk> and anything about resetting or I/O errors
[06:15] <xp-killer> theres an addon for firefox to download videos from youtube.how do i install it?
[06:15] <xp-killer> it look like 3 spinning little colour balls spining
[06:16] <liz2> xjjk: some I/O errors in the end
[06:16] <xjjk> liz2: yeah.. your disk might be dying..
[06:16] <xjjk> that's why stuff is not copying properly and you're getting errors
[06:16] <xjjk> liz2: and why the system stopped booting in the first palce
[06:17] <liz2> means I will have a dead pc soon :(
[06:18] <xjjk> liz2: yes
[06:19] <liz2> it did identify my cdrw has an error, now I know why it wouldn't open
[06:20] <xjjk> liz2: does your computer use SATA or PATA disks?
[06:22] <liz2> xjjk: I don't know
[06:22] <xjjk> liz2: how old is it?
[06:22] <liz2> xjjk: 6-10yrs I think
[06:23] <xjjk> liz2: yeah, PATA
[06:23] <xjjk> liz2: when PATA disks fail, they tend to screw up the operation of other PATA devices
[06:24] <liz2> xjjk: no hope then, at least the few that uploaded to an online drive seem ok so far
[06:25] <xjjk> that's good
[06:37] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[06:37] <ProfOak> Sup?
[06:45] <husayn_> i want to use calculator in kubuntu
[06:45] <husayn_> I havnt seen any calculator yet in Kubuntu.. is there any ? if not which one to download and install
[06:46] <BigPatice> use kcalc
[06:47] <liz2> where do you modify kubuntu hardy hibernate and standby options?
[06:47] <liz2> husayn: there's speedcrunch, should be in utilities
[06:50] <liz2> g'nite all
[06:50] <liz2> <--blacks out
[06:52] <alexshenoy_> does quassel come preinstalled with kubuntu
[06:52] <tertitten> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-tertitten" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:52] <tertitten> Error: "/tmp/kde-tertitten" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:53] <alexshenoy_> i didnt even notice it was here till right now
[06:53] <tertitten> how do I restore it back ?
[06:53] <tertitten> I guess there's a lot of folders with wrong uid ..
[06:54] <Gamarok__> yes it does with kubuntu 9.04 alexshenoy
[06:55] <alexshenoy> i just normally use konversation.
[06:55] <alexshenoy> but i figured id give it a shot
[06:55] <ProfOak> Does anyone know the site jisho.org ? Because my question applies to it.
[06:55] <Gamarok__> well konversation is better in my opinion too
[06:57] <alexshenoy> yeah. i think i will give this a shot for the next day or so and if i dont like it just uninstall it
[06:57] <alexshenoy> Gamarok_ why did they pick this instead of konversation
[07:03] <faileas> alexshenoy: i think konversation kde4 is in backports ;)
[07:11] <alexshenoy> faileas: thanks
[07:11]  * faileas was using the debian one before it autoupgraded... so i'm not actually sure
[07:11] <alexshenoy> i had konversation installed. but i tend to use alt-f2 to launch apps so i didnt notice this was installed until today
[07:18] <hx> ..
[07:18] <hx> Hi, read me?
[07:18] <Gamarok__> hi hx
[07:19] <hx> ..
[07:31] <tertitten> in kubuntu, if I need to reinstall KDE, i't ubuntu-desktop I'm supposed to reinstall with right ?
[07:31] <tertitten> *kubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <zod_> Hi! Is 4.2.3 going to get security, stability updates in the lifetime of Jaunty or should I stick to 4.2.2 ?
[07:38] <Mamarok> zod_: hi
[07:38] <zod_> hi
[07:38] <Mamarok> zod_: it's a bugfix release mainly and will make it to the backports during the Jaunty lifetime
[07:39] <zod_> good to know, thank you!
[07:39] <Mamarok> so you can expect security updates too
[07:39] <zod_> ok. thanks!
[07:39] <zod_> bye
[07:39] <Mamarok> bye, yaw :)
[07:42] <ziroday> are the system requirements for kubuntu similar to ubuntu (including flashy kwin effects?)
[07:50] <Guest63084> should be same I think...
[07:57] <Deepthought_> anybody have problems too with nvidia-restricted in Jaunty ?
[08:28] <vladimirboyd> hello
[08:28] <Gamarok__> hey vladimirboyd
[08:36] <dumbkiwi> how can I save a file on a remote file system using the gnome file dialog without having to mount that file system? - like in the kde file dialog using kio slaves.
[09:32] <theclaw> hi
[09:32] <theclaw> how to install kcontrol in ubuntu 9.04?
[09:33] <theclaw> (the one from kde 3)
[09:42] <yao_ziyuan1> how do i let a modified grub menu.lst take effect without restarting computer?
[09:44] <Tm_T> yao_ziyuan1: but menu.lst affects only boot, right?
[09:46] <yao_ziyuan1> i don't know what you say
[09:46] <Tm_T> grub menu.lst is only read (and "run") at boot
[09:47] <Gamarok__> Tm_T is right yao-ziyuan1
[09:48] <Tm_T> yao_ziyuan1: so what has to take effect exactly?
[09:48] <Tm_T> theclaw: there is none of that anymore, but (in KDE 4.3) systemsettings can be used in the similar mode
[09:50] <eeos> help! :) Today I connected the SDHC card of the camera to the laptop after upgrading to 9.04. Notmally the files names where all lowercase, now they are uppercase, so my rsync miniscript cannot synchronise the card with the hard disk anymore. How do you solve that? How can you tell my kubuntu to keep seeing the files on the card as lowercase names?
[09:50] <desu> eeos: hax.
[09:50] <desu> eeos: you'd have to either move the files or do low-level filesystem editiing if you dont wanna move
[09:50] <ambossmini> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[09:51] <Tm_T> !de | ambossmini
[09:51] <desu> and by move i mean, move to a temporary location them move back with tr [a-z] [A-Z] or something
[09:51] <yao_ziyuan1> Tm_T: my host os grub is on sda1, (hd0,0)/boot/grub. i use vbox to boot opensuse on sda3, which first boots to sda1 for grub
[09:51] <yao_ziyuan1> nevermind. let me restart computer
[09:51] <ambossmini> danke
[09:53] <Deepthought_>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Deepthought moi
[09:53] <Tm_T> Deepthought_: fail?
[09:53] <Tm_T> Deepthought_: as a hint, never do those things in other than server window
[09:53] <eeos> desu: in what sense "move"?
[09:55] <desu> eeos: move to a temporary location then move back with proper case
[09:55] <Deepthought_> Tm_T: I see now, having sort of a problem though logging in with my own nick, keep getting the variety with the _ at the end, even though I mannaged to identify properly at nickserv; so I guess I don' t gettit; where/how  can I tackle this problem ?
[09:55] <Tm_T> eeos: this script cannot be made to handle uppercase files too?
[09:56] <Tm_T> Deepthought_: #freenode perhaps
[09:57] <Deepthought_> Tm_T: of course, that' s it, thanx !
[09:57] <eeos> Tm_T: I am not terribly good with scripting .... it is just 3 lines, one snychronises the rwl, the other the jpg the third the mov
[09:58] <Tm_T> that's the easiest way anyway, unless you change your mount options to mount fat as lowercase only (I believe there's method for that too)
[09:59] <Guest58044> Hello, I'm looking forward to installing the newest release. This would be my first KDE4 experience. Anybody know the system requirements?
[10:00] <Tm_T> Guest58044: 512 MiB ram and ~4 GiB storage space should be enough
[10:01] <Guest58044> Tm_T: its an old Pentium 3 machine
[10:02] <Tm_T> Guest58044: still, if it has at minimum 256 MiB ram it works
[10:02] <Tm_T> not fast but works
[10:02] <Guest58044> Thanks. I hope KDE4 isn't as heavy as it looks. :)
[10:02] <eeos> Tm_T: do you know where to look for it?
[10:04] <Tm_T> eeos: no, sorry
[10:17] <Name141> If I was to make a bootable flash drive disk, would I be able to save files, update drivers, security, install programs, so on?  Or do I need to figure out how to install it directly to the flash drive rather than LIVE?
[10:23] <eeos> how are the memory cards automounted? by what deamon?
[10:24] <MrDarkUser> eeos: hal?
[10:25] <eeos> MrDarkUser: where are the automoutn options? I cannot find a configuration file!
[10:25] <MrDarkUser> I'm surely  not an expert,but neraly everything has to do with fdi files now
[10:31] <Deepthought> anybody have problems too with nvidia-restricted in Jaunty ?
[10:44] <Deepthought> I can' t get my nvidia-settings settings to stick in Jaunty (dual monitor), while in ibex no prb; can' t parse xorg.conf or something...
[10:45] <Tm_T> Deepthought: can you check your /vat/log/Xorg.0.log if it contains any hints?
[10:45] <Tm_T>  /var even
[10:47] <Deepthought> Tm_T: No device specified for screen "Default Screen" perhaps ?
[10:48] <Deepthought> Tm_T: and: No Layout section.
[10:49] <Deepthought> Tm_T: my xorg.conf seems suspiciously empty anyway, but I kinda got used to that, seems all setting get handled by nvidia driver nowadays without bothering xorg.conf, or not ?
[10:51] <Tm_T> Deepthought: Xorg and HAL does things magically
[10:51] <Deepthought> so it seems
[10:52] <Deepthought> Tm_T: but there' s also a swettings file by nvidia-settings, or no ?
[10:52] <Tm_T> Deepthought: well, it uses xorg.conf IIRC
[10:52] <Tm_T> you might need to put things into xorg.conf and if that won't help (as if it gets ignored) you might need to force it to be used
[10:53] <Deepthought> how ?
[10:54] <Tm_T> Deepthought: how what?
[10:54] <Deepthought> how force ?
[11:00] <Tm_T> Deepthought: I fail to find it now but I know there's a way
[11:01] <Deepthought> too bad...
[11:04] <eeos> I cannot understand how to change that .... :(
[11:04] <eeos> oops, sorry .... I cannot udnerstand how to change the setting for SDHC cards, so that the file names are in lower case
[11:07] <jolanka> hi all. im using 9.04 and have a thinkpad z61p with a mobility firegl v5200 (Chipset: ATI M56 - Similar to Radeon X1600). im having problems installing the right video driver since i found out that new fglrx drivers no longer support my card, and also new xorg-servers dont support older fglrx drivers
[11:07] <jolanka> what should i do, please ?
[11:08] <shadeslayer> jolanka: maybe everything is supported by default drivers??
[11:09] <shadeslayer> jolanka: did you try enabling desktop effects??
[11:11] <eeos> I do not understand where the indications for automounting the sdhc cards are storedd
[11:13] <jolanka> shadeslayer yes everything works fine with default out-of-the box except that mplayer has some strange lines in .avi -s
[11:13] <perojok> hello, does anybody know where i can get sourses of program "cal"?
[11:13] <jolanka> and i couldnt think of anything else that this
[11:13] <shadeslayer> jolanka: try VLC with different settings in video settings
[11:14] <jolanka> ok
[11:16] <perojok> yarrr?
[11:16] <Mamarok> I don't know that application, could you be a bit more specific?
[11:18] <jolanka> shadeslayer nothing
[11:18] <jolanka> non of them are good
[11:20] <Mamarok> !info cal
[11:20] <shadeslayer> !video | jolanka
[11:20] <shadeslayer> whaaa!!
[11:20] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: see above :)
[11:21] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: what?
[11:21] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: factoid put of date
[11:21] <shadeslayer> *out
[11:21] <Mamarok> indeed, that's not exactly new...
[11:21] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: are you looking after codecs maybe?
[11:22] <jolanka> ubottu the problem is with the video driver
[11:22] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: well jolanka is getting lines on her video output...
[11:22] <Mamarok> jolanka: then is an xorg problem I think, what card do you have?
[11:22] <Mamarok> oh, ATI...
[11:23] <Mamarok> jolanka: you need to install the readon driver, wait, I'll get the correct one for you
[11:24] <Mamarok> jolanka: the package you need is xserver-xorg-video-radeonhg
[11:24] <eeos> how is it possible that eclipse is still at 3.2.2???
[11:25] <shadeslayer> hmm i have to terminals one below the other cloning each other in konsole...i pressed ctrl+shift+t..how do i remove the other one??
[11:25] <Mamarok> jolanka: you need to remove the fglrx driver then, which you can do with jokey-kde and then purge it from your system with sudo apt-get purge xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:26] <Mamarok> !info eclipse
[11:26] <jolanka> Mamarok thx
[11:26] <Mamarok> eeos: I guess you will have to wait for Karmic to get a newer one, maybe earlier in the backports
[11:26] <jolanka> Mamarok xserver-xorg-video-radeonhg includes the driver itself ?
[11:27] <Mamarok> jolanka: that is the driver :)
[11:27] <shadeslayer> seems like i have to quit to get this straight
[11:27] <jolanka> mamarok all the drivers are installed by default so i dont need to apt-get it but i dont know how to tell xorg which one to use
[11:27] <jolanka> its not in xorg.conf that i know :]
[11:27] <shadeslayer> got it finally :D
[11:28] <waltzingalong> !info screen
[11:28] <Mamarok> jolanka: start jokey-kde with Alt+F2
[11:29] <Mamarok> hm, jockey-kde is more correct
[11:29] <jolanka> i did
[11:29] <jolanka> nothind there
[11:29] <jolanka> its empty
[11:29] <Mamarok> jolanka: hm, then you need to go the hard way:
[11:30] <jolanka> No proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[11:30] <Mamarok> jolanka: are you familiar with the command line?
[11:30] <jolanka> sure
[11:30] <Mamarok> oh, then it doesn't use fglrx, right, I guess you are already running the radeonhd then
[11:30] <jolanka> much more that with crappy dekstops ;]
[11:30] <Mamarok> jolanka: are you using the desktop effects?
[11:31] <jolanka> Mamarok the reason i'm thinking abuout this whole video driver issue is that mplayer (and smplayer) have strange bugs in video rendering, and desktop effects crashing from time to time
[11:32] <jolanka> im using desktop effects but i have to turn them off otherwise the desktop crashes in every 5 minutes
[11:32] <jolanka> randomly
[11:32] <Mamarok> jolanka: try running the video in vlc without desktop effects enabled, does this solve the issue?
[11:32] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: tried already :D
[11:32] <Mamarok> ok
[11:33] <jolanka> it does but im not only tring to survive without desktop effects :}
[11:33] <jolanka> im trying to get the correct video driver for my card hoping that the system will get better
[11:33] <Mamarok> jolanka: I feel with you, have an ATI card myself, I use desktop effects now with xrender instead of OpenGL
[11:33] <zod_> jolanka: are you Hungarian? just out of curiosity. (Jolánka?)
[11:33] <Mamarok> which of course also means not all effects, only basic transparency and such
[11:33] <jolanka> zod i am
[11:33] <Mamarok> that sounds not hungarian at all :)
[11:34] <zod_> :)
[11:34] <shadeslayer> is there a way to get apps in a specific workspace in the taskbar and hiding the ones on other workspaces?
[11:34] <Mamarok> zod_: but this does not belong here...
[11:34] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: isn't there an option in the task manager?
[11:34] <jolanka> mamarok pls tell me how do i find out which xserver-xorg-????? is in use right now
[11:34] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i cant seem to be able to loacte it
[11:34] <jolanka> radeon or ati or vesa
[11:35] <shadeslayer> *locate
[11:35] <Mamarok> not really, locate only tells you where things are
[11:35] <shadeslayer> got it
[11:36] <Mamarok> jolanka: there is a command I never remember, wait, I'll search for it
[11:36] <jolanka> glxinfo ?
[11:39] <Mamarok> hm, will have to ask somebody, can't find it right now
[11:46] <Mamarok> jolanka: try this: grep driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:46] <FloridaGuy> where do i add the public key at...for deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[11:48] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: you can either download it with kgpg or on the command line
[11:48] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: I can give you the command, just a moment
[11:49] <FloridaGuy> Mamarok, command line
[11:49] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv<PHONE_NUMBER>3B3065
[11:49] <Mamarok> then:
[11:50] <Mamarok> then: gpg --export --armor<PHONE_NUMBER>3B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:51] <FloridaGuy> still telling me no key found
[11:53] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: then I gave you the wrong key, just replace the one it asks you for in the comands above
[11:53] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get update tells you which is missing
[11:54] <FloridaGuy> i even copyed this to gedit...then imported it....http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[11:56] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: what does sudo apt-get update tell you which is missing?
[11:57] <FloridaGuy> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7D2C7A23BF810CD5
[11:59] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 7D2C7A23BF810CD5
[12:00] <FloridaGuy> now i just did upgrade command
[12:00] <Mamarok> then : gpg --export --armor 7D2C7A23BF810CD5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:01] <FloridaGuy> copy it to gedit then add it when done
[12:02] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: why gedit? just execute the commands i gave you to add the key :)
[12:02] <FloridaGuy> saving them...i already started the kde upgrade
[12:06] <shadeslayer> anyone have kbfx??
[12:07] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: what is kbfx?
[12:07] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: its a launcher/kicker
[12:07] <Mamarok> hm, can't find it in the repos
[12:08] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: because its not ;)
[12:09] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: kbfx.net
[12:09] <Gamarok__> hey shadeslayer how are you man
[12:09] <shadeslayer> Gamarok__: hey
[12:10] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: why not run Alt+F2?
[12:11] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yeah...im thinking the same thing after looking at the screenshots
[12:14] <FloridaGuy> pretty much if im runing ubuntu-desktop with kde installed or kubuntu-desktop with gnome installed...im basicly runing the samething either way right
[12:19] <Mamarok> FloridaGuy: was this a question?
[12:20] <Mamarok> ...
[12:27] <Gamarok__> what can i use to record audio in kubuntu?
[12:28] <Mamarok> Gamarok__: audacity
[12:28] <Mamarok> !info audacity
[12:28] <Gamarok__> ok thanks Mamarok
[12:36] <n3m0> hi
[12:36] <n3m0> do you know how to connact a vodafone 810 with wammu
[12:36] <n3m0> ?
[12:43] <eagles0513875> how can i determine what microphone i have in my system i tried lusb as well as lspci
[12:43] <eagles0513875> nothing showed up
[12:48] <mborgraeve> hello, i need help : my soundblaster live! doesn't work : i can hear the wlecome sound, but when amarok plays mp3s, there is no sound. i verified alsamixer, all are at maximum, and i don't know what i have to do ...
[12:51] <eagles0513875> mborgraeve: seems like your missing codecs
[12:52] <eagles0513875> mborgraeve: install kubuntu -restricted-extras
[12:52] <ahmed> im trying  to install pci modem i used scanModem but  ididnt understand the output could someone help me here
[12:52] <mborgraeve> no i already played mp3,
[12:53] <mborgraeve> and amarok plays the musics, the cursor is moving, the time is moving too (excuse me, i'm not english)
[12:55] <mborgraeve> so i think the problem is that audiopulse or alsa are not working properly
[12:58] <Mamarok> mborgraeve: pulseaudio doesn't work with the xine backend, for Amarok you better remove it
[12:59] <mborgraeve> i already tried, and it didn't work...
[12:59] <ahmed> \i want to install driver for pci modem i need help here please
[13:00] <Mamarok> mborgraeve: you need to remove pulseaudio, remove the ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc, ~/.asound.conf if there is one, then restart kde
[13:00] <Mamarok> ahmed: which modem do you have?
[13:01] <ahmed> i used scanModem i got /dev/modem -> ttySL0 in ModemData.txt
[13:02] <ToreadorVampire> Hey all - Kubuntu Jaunty/KDE 4.2.2 - How would I re-enable the "KDE Dæmon: Running out of disk space warning" dialog/message if I chose "Disable Warning" from the dialog?
[13:02] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: try sudo dmidecode
[13:02] <ahmed> Mamarok:i used scanModem i got /dev/modem -> ttySL0 in ModemData.txt
[13:03] <Mamarok> ahmed: what brand is the modem you have installed? there is a line in the lspci output whixh tells you the brand name and type
[13:03] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: may i ask what this shows exactly
[13:04] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: it gives you the whole DMI table
[13:04] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: there also is a man page...
[13:04] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok thanks Mamarok
[13:05] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: it doesnt seem to list my mic
[13:05] <ahmed> Mamarok: how i send u the output and u choose the info u want
[13:06] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: the output is very long, and if you have a microphone, then it's in that list
[13:06] <Mamarok> ahmed: in pastebin please
[13:06] <eagles0513875> strange cuz i dont seem to be seeing it
[13:07] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: read through slowly and carefully...
[13:07] <eagles0513875> ok
[13:08] <Mamarok> ahmed: type lspci in the command line, select the output and paste it here: http://paste.ubuntu.com, then give me the link to it
[13:08] <ahmed> Mamarok: i checked it its conexant HSFI cx11252-11
[13:11]  * ToreadorVampire grumbles that that warning has appeared /yet again/
[13:12]  * ToreadorVampire scowls at his laptop for keeping bugging him about something he already knows and plans to fix this evening :(
[13:12] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: emptied the trash already?
[13:13] <ahmed> Mamarok: i checked it its conexant HSFI cx11252-11
[13:13] <Mamarok> ahmed: yes, I have seen it, thanks
[13:13] <Mamarok> ahmed: I am trying to find something on Google...
[13:13] <ahmed> now how istall the driver i want it just to send and recieve faxes
[13:13] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Oh, erm, maybe - but - this evening I am going to extend the partition that Jaunty is installed on - so the problem will be fixed ...
[13:14] <Mamarok> ahmed: I need to find that driver first, moment
[13:15] <ToreadorVampire> I am not actively using/saving stuff to that partition anyway - all of my documents/work are going to the relevant places on my KDE 3.5 home folder (on my laptop hard disk) ... the only parts of my home dir that are on this USB flash drive are the 'user profile furniture' like all of the hidden directories (which I don't want to mix with the KDE 3.5 install for fear of contamination)
[13:15] <pior> hello guys
[13:15] <Mamarok> ahmed: I have found this thread in the forums that might help you: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7229710
[13:15] <ToreadorVampire> I just want to disable that "Oh noes!  You're running out of space" for the rest of today, because it keeps appearing and bugging me
[13:16] <ToreadorVampire> But I'm aware that if I hit "Disable Warning" - I'm probably disabling it forever, and I don't want to do that - after this evening when I extend the partition I would like it to warn me if (in the future) I am running out of space again
[13:16] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: disable the notifications in the system settings?
[13:16] <pior> my kde3.5 still refuse to use utf8, even if /etc/default/locale is ok
[13:16] <bellosani> is there anybody who can explain what open proxy means?
[13:16] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Ah, where in the system settings?  I had a look for it, and couldn't find where it was configured from ...
[13:16] <pior> someone know what to check ?
[13:17] <ToreadorVampire> bellosani> An open proxy is "a computer that is allowing anyone to bounce [some kind of Internet traffic] off of it" without asking them to authenticate or type in a password etc
[13:18] <pior> bellosani, where did you get that ?
[13:18] <ToreadorVampire> bellosani> Basically, it's a really bad security risk, since it allows people to conduct illegal/annoying activities through the open proxy and if someone goes to investigate the problem - it's the open proxy's IP address etc that appear in their logs
[13:18] <ahmed> Mamarok:ok i'll try it if there is problem i'll back to u
[13:18] <ToreadorVampire> So basically it allows "antisocial" activity anonymously
[13:18] <Mamarok> pior: the system langauge settings?
[13:19] <bellosani> how does one solve a problem like that?
[13:19] <Mamarok> bellosani: that's definitely not something you should use with Kubuntu
[13:20] <Mamarok> bellosani: why do you ask?
[13:20] <pior> Mamarok, yeap
[13:20] <bellosani> because i try to use knoversation to connect to irc, i get error messages that my hostname cannot be verified
[13:21] <bellosani> they give me faq links and they all lead to stories about open proxies
[13:21] <pior> obviously it's simple to switch from english to french for example, but kde use iso encoding then and not utf8
[13:21] <Mamarok> bellosani: what internet connection do you use? You can not connect to freenode annonimously
[13:22] <ToreadorVampire> bellosani> Possibly your computer (or another computer on your network) is an open proxy?  If you're at a place of work then that might be one of your business' servers?
[13:22] <Mamarok> pior: you nned to set the encoding for all languages, including the system language
[13:22] <pior> Mamarok, the ubuntu way for that is to setup  /etc/default/locale
[13:22] <pior> but it doesn't work for me
[13:23] <bellosani> its an internet connection at my place of work
[13:23] <pior> I use kde3 on Jaunty, maybe smoething is wrong about it ( https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty )
[13:23] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: is it quite safe to remove pulse audio cuz from what im hearing it seems like pulse is the cause of my problem or will i have issues playing music etc
[13:23] <Mamarok> pior: why don't you set it in the systemsettings?
[13:23] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: was this a question?
[13:24] <bellosani> i got that problem using kubuntu so i switched to ubuntu intrepid and downloaded konversation
[13:24] <Mamarok> pior: that's probably the problem, Jaunty doesn't support KDE3 anymore
[13:24] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> I've just had another look in System Settings (notifications section) and I don't find anything about disabling/enabling the "You're running out of disk space" warning
[13:24] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: ya
[13:24] <bellosani> i now use a connection from an internet cafe
[13:24] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: if you only use KDE of course it is save
[13:24] <eagles0513875> ok then bye by to gnome then for me
[13:25] <pior> Mamarok, the problem is not that jaunty support it or not, it's kinda supported by one guy
[13:25] <eagles0513875> thanks Mamarok
[13:25] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: that makes no sense what you are saying btw...
[13:26] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: just remove Pulseaudio, purge it, etc, you do not need to load Gnome for that?
[13:26] <ToreadorVampire> Mmm - I dislike that KDE 3.5 was removed from Jaunty - I have managed to (mostly) wrestle Jaunty's implementation of KDE4 into submission, but - a while ago I was considering switching distros to something that still has recent application software but also supports KDE 3.5
[13:26] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: that's how it is, no need to ramble about it
[13:26] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: was just trying out gnome so i just purged that
[13:26] <pior> ToreadorVampire, look here : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[13:27] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: ...
[13:27] <pior> it works like a charm
[13:27] <Mamarok> pior, ToreadorVampire we do no support for it on Jaunty though, just s you know...
[13:27] <Mamarok> and it's not maintained anymore since quite some time, so...
[13:27] <ToreadorVampire> pior> Well, atm I'm trying Jaunty - I'm using KDE4 - and I'm slowly finding workarounds/fixes for my issues ...
[13:27] <ToreadorVampire> I have a perfectly good working install of Kubuntu Hardy on my HDDs
[13:28] <pior> :)
[13:28] <ToreadorVampire> The only thing is that some app software I use (monodevelop 2.0) is not available at all in Hardy unless I install from source
[13:28] <pior> Mamarok, are you working in opensource world  or what ?
[13:28] <Mamarok> could you please take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic?
[13:29] <ToreadorVampire> Well, that was the last thing I had to say about it - so from my perspective the discussion is over
[13:29] <pior> ouaou
[13:29]  * ToreadorVampire shrugs
[13:29] <Mamarok> pior: behave, there are rules for this channel
[13:29] <pior> yeap ok
[13:31] <ToreadorVampire> Anyway - any other hints about where I might find a way to disable that repetitive "You're running out of disk space" warning?  Or - more specifically, re-enable if after I disable it?
[13:33] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: can't you right click on the notification?
[13:33] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: you are talking about KDE4, right?
[13:34] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Yes, KDE4.2.2/Jaunty - I can see the option (on the dialog) that reads "Disable this Warning" - but I don't want to click that until I know how I can switch that warning back on
[13:34] <ToreadorVampire> And that's what I can't find
[13:35] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: I think it's only that warning you are going to disable, not all warnings
[13:35] <ToreadorVampire> Yeah, exactly - I want to be able to "switch that particular warning, that is warning me about low disk space" back on again later
[13:37] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: when it says "disable this warning", then it's only that particular one, I don't think it will disable anything else
[13:38] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Huh?  Could you rephrase that, because either I don't understand what you're talking about or you didn't read what I just said ... I suspect I'm misunderstanding you ;)
[13:38] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: you fear it will disable all the warnings, but it will disable only that particular one
[13:39] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> On that dialog I have 3 options:  "Open a file manager" (I guess to delete stuff), "Ignore this warning", "Disable this warning"
[13:39] <ToreadorVampire> I fear that if I choose "Disable this warning" then I will never see another "You are running out of disk space" warning again
[13:39] <Mamarok> triggered by this situation, I don't think this will remain disabled in new sessions
[13:40] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: you can allways get a basic KDE4 with all warnings enabled back if you remove that config, it's somewhere in your ~/.kde/share/config/
[13:41] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Ahh - you mean "The disable this warning" option only disables it for this login session ... where should I look for some confirmation on that?  It's an important-enough warning that I would rather not chance it?
[13:41] <ToreadorVampire> Coz, that config location has stacks and stacks of files in it :s
[13:41] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: I don't know exactly where, would have to google that first...
[13:44] <ToreadorVampire> Ah
[13:44] <eagles0513875> im honestly outa ideas as to why my mic aint working :( i have tried whats on here http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=342141 to no avail
[13:44] <mtu> i've built and installed a patched package of dosbox. now the system wants to update the package away all the time. how do i prevent that?
[13:44] <jussi01> !pinning | mtu
[13:45] <ToreadorVampire> ~/.kde/share/config/kdedrc « Apparently the setting gets dropped in there - I can just erase that line out of the file once I want to see the message again
[13:45] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: yep, that's what I found too
[13:45] <ToreadorVampire> I'll keep that file open in kate for when I next see the dialog - I'll click "disable" and check that the file gets changed
[13:45] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: did it work before?
[13:46] <eagles0513875> nope
[13:46] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: what mic is it?
[13:46] <eagles0513875> neither before or after with pulse it seems to record something but its a really high pitched static sound
[13:46] <Mamarok> that's no necessarily the mic
[13:46] <ToreadorVampire> It would be nice if the dialog had an additional option to "suppress this warning for XXX" period without actually disabling it (possibly forever, I don't know)
[13:47] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: file a wish then :)
[13:47] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: what else could it be
[13:47] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: that sound I mean, what mic do you have?
[13:47] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> I think I shall :)
[13:47] <eagles0513875> its built into my tablet and the commands you seem to have give me earlier havent yielded a manufacturer
[13:47] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: if dmidecode doesn't find your mic then it's not connected
[13:48] <eagles0513875> thing is in windows it works just fine
[13:48] <ToreadorVampire> Will double check with the KDE guys that it really is related to KDE (they sent me here saying 'KDE doesn't have that prompt, it's a distro thing' - now I'm pretty sure that it's a KDE feature)
[13:49] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: search for microphone or jack in dmidecode with Shift+Ctrl+F
[13:49] <mtu> jussi01: thank you, for some reason the "hold back" function wouldn't work until i did it from a sudo -s shell. works now. bye!
[13:49] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: nothing what so ever
[13:50] <jussi01> mtu: you are most welcome :)
[13:50] <eagles0513875> jussi01: i learned something new about apt
[13:55] <sylvain_> Bonjour à tous !
[13:56] <eagles0513875> !fr | sylvain_
[13:56] <sylvain_> Hi every one !
[13:56] <sylvain_> Guess what : I have a problem :)
[13:57] <sylvain_> I have just installed Kubuntu 9.04 on my computer with a "TV" screen.
[13:58] <sylvain_> Resolution is screen native : 1360x768
[13:58] <sylvain_> but the text & co are BIG !
[13:58] <ziroday> sylvain_: that's normal on a TV monitor, as there is lots of space, but not a very high resolution
[13:59] <sylvain_> EG : Quassel IRC can not display the channel list, the channel and the nick list....
[13:59] <sylvain_> The screen is built for a 1360x768 resolution... the graphic card is configured with this resolution
[14:00] <sylvain_> but the elements are BIG...
[14:00] <sylvain_> Is KDE only made to be displayed in 1920x 1200 ?
[14:00] <Mamarok> sylvain_:then your native resolution is not set correctly
[14:01] <sylvain_> Set where ?
[14:01] <Mamarok> sylvain_: go to systemsettings -> Display
[14:01] <sylvain_> oki i go
[14:02] <sylvain_> 1360x768 @ 50Hz
[14:02] <sylvain_> normal
[14:02] <sylvain_> NB : Windows is normally displayed with this screen :/
[14:03] <Mamarok> sylvain_: try another resolution there and then go back to the native one
[14:03] <Tm_T> sylvain_: could you pastebin this commands output: xdpyinfo | grep -A 6 screen
[14:04] <Mamarok> sylvain_: better listen to Tm_T than to me :)
[14:04] <sylvain_> :)
[14:04] <sylvain_> I need to install pastebin ?
[14:04] <Tm_T> sylvain_: no, paste what command outputs into paste.ubuntu.com
[14:04] <Tm_T> for example
[14:05] <sylvain_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/185663/
[14:05] <sylvain_> pitch ?
[14:06] <Tm_T> that claims that your screen is 161x90 millimeters
[14:06] <sylvain_> LOL
[14:06] <Tm_T> which propably isn't right
[14:06] <sylvain_> 36"
[14:06] <sylvain_> Nice troublshoot ;)
[14:07] <sylvain_> How can I force this to the "really" dimensions ?
[14:07] <sylvain_> "real"
[14:07] <sylvain_> I never used this command "xdpyinfo"
[14:08] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[14:08] <sylvain_> NB : i can't find the xorg autoconfiguration command...
[14:08] <Tm_T> sylvain_: what's the connection to this screen?
[14:08] <sylvain_> HDMI
[14:09] <Tm_T> hmm, no adapters in between?
[14:09] <sylvain_> ... let me take a look at this )
[14:09] <sylvain_> :)
[14:10] <sylvain_> NVidia card with DVI output => Samsund TV screen 32" HDready HDMI  input
[14:10] <ahmed> i dont know if the driver installed or and dont know what programs i have to install to dialout and what program i need to send faxes and recieve help me this first time to use modem with linux
[14:11] <ahmed> Mamarok: the chipset was conexant hsfi cx11252-11 but when i checked lspci i found it 02:09.0 Modem: ALi Corporation SmartLink SmartPCI563 56K Modem
[14:11] <Tm_T> sylvain_: ah, ok, so there's adapter, prolly loses some signals then
[14:12] <Tm_T> sylvain_: you can try force the DPI in systemsettings
[14:12] <Mamarok> ahmed: I never used a modem to send faxes, there must be some fax software around in the repos though
[14:12] <sylvain_> But... there is no problem with Windows, so I guess it is not a cable problem.
[14:12] <Mamarok> !fax
[14:12] <Tm_T> sylvain_: I don't remember where so use search (:)
[14:12] <Tm_T> sylvain_: Windows doesn't use detection, it just use one setting
[14:12] <sylvain_> oki
[14:13] <sylvain_> So I try to force DPI in system settings...
[14:13] <Mamarok> ahmed: I think you need to install hylafax or such
[14:13] <sylvain_> Where can I do this (DPI) ?
[14:14] <ahmed> Mamarok: ok how i know if the driver work or not
[14:14] <Tm_T> sylvain_: 1612.18 < ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fax
[14:14] <Tm_T> sylvain_: ahg, sorry
[14:14] <sylvain_> 1612.18 ?? LOL
[14:14] <Tm_T> sylvain_: I don't remember where so use search (:)
[14:14] <sylvain_> You need more fingers !
[14:14] <sylvain_> Search ? what do you mean "search" ?
[14:14] <Tm_T> sylvain_: there's "find" or similar in systemsettings
[14:15] <Mamarok> ahmed: did you try a connection with that modem?
[14:15] <sylvain_> DPI : nothing found
[14:15] <Tm_T> interesting
[14:16] <sylvain_> Can I force a XORG autoconfiguration ? I can't find the command... what is its name exactly ?
[14:16] <sylvain_> NB : I use NVidia drivers, not free nv ones.
[14:17] <Tm_T> sylvain_: systemsettings -> appearance -> Fonts
[14:17] <ahmed> Mamarok: how i  connect with modem
[14:17] <Mamarok> ahmed: I am not really proficient with modems, so maybe someone else can help better
[14:17] <Mamarok> ahmed: what line do you have?
[14:18] <Mamarok> phone, ADSL?
[14:18] <sylvain_> Fonts forced to 96PPP, nothing has changed... :/
[14:18] <Tm_T> sylvain_: you have to relogin to make it fully affect
[14:18] <sylvain_> :)
[14:18] <sylvain_> sys
[14:22] <sylvain_> PERFECT !!
[14:23] <sylvain_> You rox
[14:23] <Tm_T> sylvain_: good it works
[14:23] <sylvain_> Thank you Tm_T and Mamarok for yout help !
[14:24] <Mamarok> sylvain_: you are welcome, but I didn't help much :)
[14:24] <Mamarok> all the praise goes to Tm_T :)
[14:24] <sylvain_> We have a new Kubuntu user (I use Gentoo)
[14:24] <sylvain_> BYE
[14:25] <ahmed> Mamarok:? what u mean what line do i have?
[14:40] <Nicekiwi9> hi! =) i need some help manually configuring my monitors.. any help?
[14:49] <sczgilae> hello everybody
[14:50] <kaddi> hello :)
[14:50] <sczgilae> do you know how can i lock the panel of my kubuntu 9.04 to all users?
[14:52] <sczgilae> i have an installation with LDAP configured. Now im configuring the users profile. i want to configure the "K" panel to all users and lock the desktop, but i dont know where is the file to configure that
[14:56] <sczgilae> anybody?
[14:56] <genii> sczgilae: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:57] <genii> sczgilae: Apologies, perhaps not there for KDE stuff, I caught only the LDAP part at first browsing of your question
[14:57] <sczgilae> thnks, but is not kubuntu server installation, maybe know there, thanks
[14:59] <omar_> hola
[14:59] <Tm_T> aloh
[14:59] <sczgilae> hola
[15:00] <genii> omar_: Espanol - /join #ubuntu-es
[15:12] <toto__> salut !
[15:13] <toto__> is it an english speaking chan ?
[15:13] <sczgilae> this channel speak in english
[15:13] <toto__> -_-
[15:14] <omar_> spanish
[15:15] <omar_> hay alguna chica???
[15:16] <Vinay-Blr> helloo room
[15:16] <Vinay-Blr> i have a small problem
[15:16] <omar_> hola
[15:16] <genii> !es
[15:17] <Vinay-Blr> any help here?
[15:17] <Tm_T> Vinay-Blr: just tell your issue and the ones who can help, will help
[15:17] <omar_> hola
[15:17] <Vinay-Blr> my cable-tv guy
[15:18] <Vinay-Blr> wanna set the network card speed to 10half mode
[15:18] <Vinay-Blr> how to do it?
[15:19] <Vinay-Blr> so i need to know how to it?
[15:19] <Mamarok> Vinay-Blr: seems nobody here knows, you will have to be patient
[15:19] <genii> Vinay-Blr: With the app called ethtool you can do that.
[15:20] <Vinay-Blr> oic it is not installed by default i believe
[15:21] <Vinay-Blr> anyway genii thanks sir
[15:23] <sczgilae> by default on Kubuntu 9.04 ethtool its installed
[15:23] <Vinay-Blr> ic let me check
[15:25] <jussi01> !u | Vinay-Blr
[15:27] <genii> Vinay-Blr: So from commandline you can set for example 10Mb and half duplex for eth0 with something like:  sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex half
[15:27] <Vinay-Blr> thanks sir
[15:28] <ToreadorVampire> Hmm, is there a way that I can hook into the 'log out' event for kubuntu and have scripts execute?  Reason is that I often mount up a CIFS share via a wifi connection.    Then, later in the shutdown process umount is called to unmount that network share.  Umount hangs because (since
[15:28] <ToreadorVampire>  my wifi is gone) the server is not responding ...
[15:28] <ToreadorVampire> ... what I'd like to do is have a small "umount my network shares" script fire when I log off from the GUI - so that if I forgot to unmount them manually, umount won't hang later (and prevent the machine from shutting down)
[15:38] <ghw> ？
[15:40] <genii> !cn | ghw
[15:40] <BluesKaj> howdy
[16:15] <teprrr> hello there, can anyone help me with a problem causing ssh-agent not to start on login? I'm using homebuilt kdm+kde, if it matters
[16:15] <teprrr> and don't have anything depending on packaged libqt installed at all
[16:15] <mistrynitesh> can anyone tell me how to get the list of languages in skim panel?... I have installed all the languages that i need and enabled them in skim configuration
[16:15] <roland__> I currently trying kde 4.3 beta with jaunty. I really want to try the mandelbrot wallpaper plugin but it is not installed. Am I missing a package or something?
[16:20] <JontheEchidna> roland__: oh, I think the packages might have been built withou eigen support, meaning that the mandlebrot wallpaper wasn't built. We'll fix this for the second beta
[16:20] <roland__> ok, I'll check it out in the next beta
[16:20] <marvin24> teprrr: ssh-agent is started from: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent
[16:23] <roland__> are the kde 4.3 beta kubuntu packages debug builds? KDE 4.3 feels slower compared to 4.2.x especially the kwin effects
[16:27] <ToreadorVampire> roland__> I asked a somewhat similar question a week or two ago, wrongly thinking that KDE was being slow ... I ended up discovering that the nvidia driver I was using was buggy and that an upgrade to the latest driver version made things a lot faster and cleared up all of my probs
[16:27] <zer0o> hi guys, du know what happened to the servers of openarena?
[16:28] <ToreadorVampire> In my case it wasn't KDE 4.3 beta I was using - I was still using KDE 4.2.2 - but still ... the nvidia driver was slowing my GPU down when I didn't want it to
[16:28] <JontheEchidna> roland__: nope, debugging symbols are in the separate -dbg packages
[16:29] <johnflux> ToreadorVampire: what's the easiest tway to upgrade the nvidia driver?
[16:29] <johnflux> ToreadorVampire: I have the same problem
[16:29] <blackmoon> hi, i've got a problem with my sata drive under jaunty amd64, sometimes the system crash with this error: "ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x1910000 action 0xe frozen" (or 0x1810000 error), can you help me?
[16:29] <roland__> ToreadorVampire: What is you driver version? I am curruntly with 180.44
[16:30] <johnflux> roland__: how do you view?
[16:30] <roland__> glxinfo
[16:30] <ToreadorVampire> johnflux> Download the updated driver from nvidia (I am now using 185.18.24 ), uninstall the repository version of the driver and then manually install the nvidia driver you downloaded
[16:30] <teprrr> marvin24, yeah, tried to debug that one earlier. /etc/X11/Xsession.options has "use-ssh-agent"
[16:31] <ToreadorVampire> ... that's pretty easy since nvidia's driver download is an executable - the hardest part is that you need to shut down your xserver in order to install it (which means log out, then go to a console login)
[16:31] <johnflux> roland__: I have the same version as you
[16:31] <ToreadorVampire> But otherwise installing the nvidia driver is a case of "follow the onscreen instructions"
[16:32] <johnflux> it's strange that 9.04 ubuntu didn't come with updated drivers
[16:32] <johnflux> and still doesn't have updated drivers
[16:32] <roland__> I don't like to install it manually this works around how (k)ubuntu works. I'd prefer a ppa
[16:32] <johnflux> ppa?
[16:33] <Deepthought> how can i get amarok to sync my mp3 player with podcasts ?
[16:33] <ToreadorVampire> johnflux> Well, they did - but those drivers went through a long QA process etc etc, and the newer/updated drivers haven't yet gone through that packaging process yet (even though they include important bugfixes over the repos drivers)
[16:33] <roland__> additional software sources
[16:33] <johnflux> ToreadorVampire: yeah given how slow this 180.44 version is, its seems it should be in the repos somewhere
[16:34] <blackmoon> no one?
[16:34] <ToreadorVampire> Usually I would also recommend using the package manager to install stuff, but in this one case, I absolutely cannot live with the bugs in driver version 180 - especially since it used to completely hang on me approx once per day
[16:34] <roland__> the default 8.10 version doesn't work with my geforce 9600 at all
[16:34] <teprrr> marvin24, hmm, yeah, apparently it doesn't start the ssh-agent.. Ill look into it
[16:34] <genii> blackmoon: Thats a hardware failure of the drive.
[16:34] <johnflux> ToreadorVampire: hmm, wonder if that explains the strange hangs that I get then
[16:34] <roland__> really a pity that there are always problems with the graphics drivers
[16:35] <ToreadorVampire> ftp://download.nvidia.com « nVidia's download server
[16:35] <ToreadorVampire> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/ « This is where their drivers are kept - you'll want to choose your correct architecture from there
[16:35] <marvin24> teprrr: try sh -x /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent
[16:35] <roland__> geforce > 8800 and better are known to be buggy with 180.x drivers
[16:36] <Tm_T> ToreadorVampire: don't forget to mention that Ubuntu cannot support those drivers (;)
[16:36] <blackmoon> genii: :( it's a six month hard drive...
[16:36] <blackmoon> genii: but the s.m.a.r.t. say that's all ok...
[16:36] <johnflux> blackmoon: what's your error?
[16:36] <ToreadorVampire> And in that list of drivers, the current stable release is 185.18.24 - there is a 185.19 listed there, but ignore it - it's not officially released yet ('twas naughty of their devs to put it on the FTP I hear)
[16:36] <johnflux> ToreadorVampire: btw, there's a 185.19
[16:37] <Deepthought> johnflux: aare you having troubles with nvidia-restr.  too in jaunty ?
[16:37] <blackmoon> johnflux: "ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x1910000 action 0xe frozen"
[16:37] <ToreadorVampire> Wait, I lie - 185.18.14 is the one to get - not 185.18.24 (too many numbers to remember!)
[16:37] <ToreadorVampire> Yeah, ignore the .19 one - it's not ready for prime time yet
[16:37] <genii> blackmoon: The SMART system only looks at the platter situation, not it's own electronics. Which is what this error is - I've had 4 or 5 drives begin like this and then just get worse
[16:37] <Deepthought> johnflux: like not getting nvidia-settings to stick tio next session ?
[16:37] <johnflux> ToreadorVampire: ah, thanks for telling me
[16:38] <johnflux> Deepthought: I don't use that - what is nvidia-restr?
[16:38] <johnflux> Deepthought: I'm just finding it unbearable slow
[16:38] <Deepthought> I mean the restricted driver; glx
[16:38] <Deepthought> the one you guys are chatting about
[16:38] <ToreadorVampire> johnflux and roland__ >  Also, you can get more help in #nvidia - they're a bit slow to respond in there, but they were helpful when I went through this process last week
[16:39] <johnflux> Deepthought: yeah.  ubuntu comes with 180 which seems to be very slow
[16:39] <blackmoon> genii: so i must change the drive as soon as possible...
[16:39] <ToreadorVampire> Oh - yeah - I believe the restricted driver for ubuntu is called nvidia-glx-180
[16:39] <roland__> ok. maybe I'll try that
[16:39] <sczgilae> i have an installation with LDAP configured. Now im configuring the users profile. i want to configure the "K" panel to all users and lock the desktop, but i dont know where is the file to configure that
[16:39] <genii> blackmoon: Yes. But it will still likely not even report any errors of it's own for a while yet. Keep it as cool in the c ase as you can and this will prolong it a bit longer
[16:39] <johnflux> ToreadorVampire: there are two .run files in ftp.  Do I need both?
[16:40] <ToreadorVampire> Oh - remember to uninstall that driver if you go for the manual installation - otherwise (say there's an upgrade to it later) that upgrade will break your manually-installed driver ;)
[16:40] <Deepthought> johnflux: ToreadorVampire, slowness is not my problem, I can' t get nvidia-settings configuration to stick, allways resets in new session (have dual screen, have to reconfigure each session, worked fine in previous kubuntu' s
[16:40] <blackmoon> genii: ok, thank you :)
[16:40] <ToreadorVampire> johnflux> No, I honestly don't know the difference between the two - but I picked the larger of the two, assuming it might come with utility programs and whatnot
[16:40] <Deepthought> ToreadorVampire: would newer driver from nvidia-direct be solution ?  And is it a known issue ?
[16:41] <sczgilae> i have an installation with LDAP configured. Now im configuring the users profile. i want to configure the "K" panel to all users and lock the desktop, but i dont know where is the file to configure that
[16:41] <genii> blackmoon: You're welcome
[16:41] <ToreadorVampire> Deepthought> I don't know about that one - maybe ask in #nvidia
[16:41] <roland__> Deepthought: the problem is that nvidia-settings needs root privelges to write the xorg.conf
[16:41] <roland__> I really recommend to make a backup from your currently (more or less) wokring xorg.conf
[16:42] <ToreadorVampire> I only really know that the 180 driver caused me loads of problems, and after trying to troubleshoot them, I ended up ditching it in favour of 185, and now all of those problems are gone :)
[16:43] <Deepthought> roland__: I know, use it through terminal with sudo; used to always work, but even when I didn' t save to Xorg.conf the settings would stick through sessions; it appears to bypass xorg.conf altogether
[16:43] <Deepthought> roland__: however now it won' t even parse xorg.conf, gives error
[16:44] <ToreadorVampire> Deepthought> Uh oh :s
[16:44] <roland__> what'
[16:44] <roland__> s your xorg.0.log?
[16:44] <ToreadorVampire> Deepthought> Have you tried manually editing your xorg.conf and just making those settings?  I know it's a workaround, but it might help ...
[16:45] <Deepthought> roland__: most obvious error is it says I have no default screen; xorg.conf is suspiciously empty anyway, but it was in Ibex as well, made no difference, settings would stick even without sudo and xorg.conf
[16:46] <Deepthought> roland__: ToreadorVampire I tried reconfigure X, but can' t get the right command; everything changed with that xorg-stuff from old x
[16:47] <ToreadorVampire> Oh :(
[16:47] <Deepthought> manual editing' s a bit to daunting fer mee
[16:47] <ToreadorVampire> Ah
[16:47] <Deepthought> to much things to get wrong
[16:48] <teprrr> marvin24, looks like for some reason STARTSSH is not set at all..
[16:48] <ToreadorVampire> Otherwise, I'd suggest (if you have a copy from an old intrepid installation) compare your xorg.conf from intrepid<->jaunty and see if you can determine what's different
[16:48] <ToreadorVampire> If you compare them then maybe it will be obvious what you need to do
[16:49] <teprrr> marvin24, SSH_AUTH_SOCK and SSH2_AUTH_SOCK are unset/empty, SSH_AGENT is set correctly. though the if returns false and thus it's not set
[16:49] <Deepthought> ToreadorVampire: if only...   I could try using the conf from my debian-partition though, have thought about that
[16:49] <ToreadorVampire> ;)
[16:50] <marvin24> teprrr: maybe because optionsfile is not set when executing 90x11-common_ssh-agent directly
[16:50] <ToreadorVampire> Deepthought> Yeah - that's why I installed Jaunty onto a USB stick instead of to my HDDs ... I still have my Hardy installation on my hard disks as a safety net should I hit a problem I can't fix
[16:50] <Deepthought> ToreadorVampire: Still, I have the impression x.conf has nothing to do with it, since it' s being fased out and glx doesn' t appear to use it anyway (like I said, settings used to stick even without sudo and saving x.conf
[16:50] <teprrr> marvin24, ah, indeed
[16:51] <teprrr> marvin24, okay, added definition for it to that file and it goes ok that far
[16:52] <Deepthought> ToreadorVampire: makes some sense, might try that with next upgrade, ' s good idea, or different partition; this time I had ***' d up my Ibex, so went for fresh jaunty
[16:52] <ToreadorVampire> Mmm ... well - I
[16:53] <teprrr> marvin24, will try if that helps after I've finished some ongoing compiling
[16:53] <ToreadorVampire> 'm using Jaunty 'in anger' from this USB key, and what I did was mount my laptop's hard disks, and then symlink my "work" subdirectories of my home directory into the home directory on my USB key ... that way I have two totally separate home locations, but the work I do is all in the same place
[16:53] <Deepthought> ToreadorVampire: Think I' ll hop to #nvidia for a while, see if the problem' s familiar.   In beta-stage I read some rumours about new Xorg-glx incompatibility, but I figured it would' ve been solved, maybe not ?
[16:54] <ToreadorVampire> I have a couple of small issues left to fix, and once I have fixed them, I'll replace the Hardy install on this laptop
[16:54] <teprrr> btw, which package is responsible for handling /etc/hal/fdi/* ?
[16:55] <Deepthought> ToreadorVampire: very nice...   Wil try to remember that for next upgrade, would be easy since I have seperate home and leftover space for tryout-partitions on hd, thanx for idea
[16:55] <ToreadorVampire> np
[16:55] <teprrr> though humm, now mounting my zen stone works ok.. perhaps policykit is working okay or something :)
[16:55] <teprrr> just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, perhaps that did it
[16:58] <teprrr> yup, policykit works, cool :)
[16:58] <Deepthought> how can i get amarok to sync my mp3 player with podcasts ?
[16:58] <teprrr> though I'm unable to set it to need authorisation
[17:05] <marvin24> join #pulseaudio
[17:05] <marvin24> ups
[17:23] <Dragnslcr> Anybody else have a problem with the update notifier saying there are 8 updates, even when there aren't any?
[17:33] <Guest1956> Why is it that when I try to delete something it says "The wastebin has reached its maximum size!
[17:33] <Guest1956> Cleanup the wastebin manually.
[17:33] <Guest1956> When ther eis nothing in the "wastebin"
[17:33] <Guest1956> *there
[17:34] <ToreadorVampire> Guest1956> Try this:  Load Konqueror » Settings » Configure Konqueror » Wastebin » Try the settings in there
[17:34] <Guest1956> Coo'
[17:35] <oDuda> hello !
[17:35] <Guest1956> Why is it in konqueror if KDE uses dolphin now?
[17:35] <teprrr> Guest1956, or dolphin -> settings -> trash
[17:35] <teprrr> you can use konqueror too
[17:35] <Guest1956> Fair enough
[17:35] <ToreadorVampire> Guest1956> I believe making those settings from either konq or dolphin will work just fine
[17:36] <Guest1956> Thank you
[17:36] <teprrr> yup, they share the settings for trash
[17:36] <ToreadorVampire> They are two different ways of getting at the same settings - just - I don't like dolphin, so I switched to konq - forgot dolphin was the default :)
[17:36] <Guest1956> I prefer a dedicated file manager, but that's just me
[17:36] <Guest1956> Thats got it
[17:36] <Guest1956> Thank you
[17:36] <ToreadorVampire> np
[17:36] <ToreadorVampire> And I use Konq as a dedicated file manager
[17:36] <ToreadorVampire> I use Firefox for web browsing
[17:37] <Guest1956> Fair enough
[17:37] <Guest1956> That's what linux is about, eh? Changing stuff for what you want
[17:37] <ToreadorVampire> But - when I (briefly) tried dolphin out it's interface seemed too cluttered - loads of panes that I didn't want - maybe I could trim it down to size, but I already knew how how to use konq
[17:38] <Guest1956> Indeed
[17:38] <ToreadorVampire> That's what Open Source Software as a whole is about
[17:38] <teprrr> you can close the panes if you want to
[17:38] <Guest1956> It is a bit bloated
[17:38] <oDuda> im having problems with ubuntu 9.04 and intel 865 onboard graphic card... anybody knows something about ?
[17:38] <DaSkreech> Moar bloat!!!!
[17:38] <teprrr> I only have places panel active
[17:38] <ToreadorVampire> teprrr> Yeah - I admit that if I spent some time configuring it, I could make dolphin work like konqueror ... but - in that case ... why not just use konqueror hehe ;)
[17:38] <DaSkreech> I still want a dragon sidebar in dolphin then I'll be happy
[17:39] <DaSkreech> ToreadorVampire: You can't. You can make Konqueror act like dolphin
[17:39] <sczgilae> i have an installation of Kubuntu 9.04 with LDAP configured. Now im configuring the users profile. i want to configure the "K" panel to all users and lock the desktop, but i dont know where is the file to configure that. anoybody knows?
[17:39] <DaSkreech> Dolphin is a subset of what Konqueror does
[17:39] <teprrr> ToreadorVampire, well, you can't make it to work like konqueror, for example I doubt konqueror is using breadcrumbed location bar :P
[17:39] <teprrr> DaSkreech, dragon sidebar? multimedia previews or..?
[17:39] <ToreadorVampire> teprrr> Indeed, but I dont't want a breadcrumb'd location bar - that's one of the things that annoyed me about dolphin (and WinVista)
[17:40] <DaSkreech> teprrr: ah good call :) have you see balckTheCat's psts on dolphin inteh brainstorm KDE forum?
[17:40] <teprrr> DaSkreech, well, konqueror uses dolphin's folderview part to show the files
[17:40] <teprrr> DaSkreech, nope
[17:40] <teprrr> ToreadorVampire, well, one can use the normal location bar in dolphin :)
[17:40] <DaSkreech> teprrr: Yes Konqueror had a multimedia sidebar that I could throw things into and have them play while I browsed around. I can't do that in Dolphin though I wish I could
[17:40] <ToreadorVampire> I appreciate that I could probably switch that breadcrumb'd location bar off - but - if I disabled/reconfigured all of the bits of dolphin that I don't like, then I would have an identical UI to konqueror ;)
[17:40] <oDuda> im having problems with ubuntu 9.04 and intel 865 onboard graphic card(performance)... anybody knows something about ?
[17:41] <teprrr> I don't use dolphin that much either. do most of the file related actions from a console
[17:41] <Guest1956> Ye, help this guy out
[17:41] <teprrr> ToreadorVampire, nope. it's still different :P
[17:41] <Guest1956> I would help oDuda, but I'm linux newbie
[17:41] <teprrr> but yeah, everyone uses what they like :)
[17:41] <DaSkreech> oDuda: have you done all updates there were some updates to the Intel driver
[17:41] <oDuda> thank you Guest1956 !
[17:41] <teprrr> oDuda, are you using desktop effects? turning them off could speed-up things
[17:42] <ToreadorVampire> teprrr> Well, if it makes you happier - if I ever get annoyed with Konq's UI then I'll swap to dolphin - but while I'm happy with Konq I will continue using it ;)
[17:42] <tomil> kkkk
[17:42] <oDuda> teprrr thanks ! but not, im not using effects :-)
[17:43] <Guest1956> I think KDE is generally more graphics intensive though oDuda
[17:43] <teprrr> ToreadorVampire, sure, you not using dolphin won't make any difference for me :)
[17:43] <Guest1956> As I said, I'm no expert
[17:43] <ToreadorVampire> Hehe
[17:43] <oDuda> DaSkreech thank you... i made this download (9.04) at last friday... so that must havent the updates ? (its another doubt)
[17:43] <teprrr> Guest1956, yeah, qt4 is using ARGBs all around I think
[17:43] <teprrr> and so does plasma
[17:43] <Guest1956> Indeed
[17:44] <Guest1956> oDuda, try a different DE
[17:44] <DaSkreech> oDuda: No they don't update the CD after release. before release they update it every day
[17:44] <oDuda> Guest1956 Kubuntu is presenting some problems... i saw that before choose ubuntu (gnome) and not kubuntu :-)
[17:44] <DaSkreech> oDuda: do you prefer GUI or CLI ?
[17:45] <ToreadorVampire> btw - Guest1956 - I agree that that "your trash is full, it needs clearing" error messge could do with some work - since it's not very intuitive at the moment
[17:45] <Guest1956> It suprises me that it says it when it's empty
[17:45] <oDuda> DaSkreech CLI ? is command shell ?
[17:45] <DaSkreech> teprrr: http://forum.kde.org/dolphin-ideas-with-mockups-t-28472.html
[17:45] <Guest1956> Or clains to be empty anyway
[17:45] <DaSkreech> oDuda: yes
[17:46] <ToreadorVampire> At least give an option to "open a file manager in the trash directory" or "configure your wastebin" - otherwise the average user is going to have no idea as to how to solve the problem
[17:46] <oDuda> Guest1956 i use the two way... but i know a little the two... why ?
[17:46] <oDuda> Guest1956 my main problem is that i dont have broadband where i am installing 9.04 version :-(
[17:46] <Guest1956> Ah
[17:47] <Guest1956> What DE are you using now?
[17:47] <teprrr> DaSkreech, hmm, which part from there?
[17:47] <oDuda> Guest1956 sorry
[17:47] <DaSkreech> teprrr: the breadcrumb stuff I guess :) some of it is interesting
[17:48] <oDuda> DaSkreech i use the two way... but i know a little the two... why ?
[17:48] <DaSkreech> oDuda: Well I was going to tell you to update the xorg drivers :)
[17:48] <oDuda> DaSkreech my main problem is that i dont have broadband where i am installing 9.04 version :-(
[17:49] <oDuda> DaSkreech ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh xorg drivers ?
[17:49] <teprrr> DaSkreech, yeah, some of those may have been implemented already
[17:49] <DaSkreech> oDuda: I just saw that. Check how big the xorg drivers are
[17:49] <DaSkreech> teprrr: They would say DONE beside them if they are
[17:49] <oDuda> DasKreech isnt too much bigger... huh ?
[17:50] <teprrr> DaSkreech, and the thread title is [SOLVED]? ;)
[17:50] <DaSkreech> teprrr: Ha Not sure I'll check what that's about
[17:51] <oDuda> DaSkreech im impressive by EXT4 filesystem... i liked the new interface at 9.04... but for now im downloading 8.04.2 ... later im sure... ill make a new download (and maybe with the new updates... not ?)
[17:51] <teprrr> no idea if what suggestions have been implemented from there though
[17:51] <teprrr> I don't follow dolphin development closely
[17:51] <DaSkreech> There is a Sub forum with all the ones implemented already
[17:52] <Guest1956> Just out of interest, how do I change my name from "Guest1956" to something else?
[17:52] <DaSkreech> Me either I just like the brainstorm forum :)
[17:52] <genii> Guest1956: /nick newnamehere
[17:52] <DaSkreech> oDuda: Alright :) Though you can get KDE with 9.04
[17:52] <DaSkreech> !kde3 | oDuda
[17:52] <DaSkreech> KDE3 I mean
[17:53] <oDuda> DasKreech im seeing people saying that Kubuntu have big problems too... its not true ?
[17:53] <teprrr> I should someday see what that forum offers
[17:53] <teprrr> to see for some ideas I'd like to work on :P
[17:53] <genii> Don't go nuts on name-changing though, it's called nick spamming
[17:54] <TheGrammarFreak> I'm sorry
[17:54] <TheGrammarFreak> It just kep saying "this na,me is registered
[17:54] <TheGrammarFreak> II've found one now
[17:54] <phoenixz> I need to know the *name* of a process that every now and then is changing a file.. How can I monitor that file to get that process name?
[17:54] <genii> TheGrammarFreak: No worries, just now you know. Yeah, when a name is registered it means someone else has alredy a password for it
[17:54] <oDuda> ubottu thanks man ! kubuntu does not have problem ?
[17:54] <DaSkreech> oDuda: Depends on what they mean by big problems. It has problems sure. Some problems may mean a lot to some people
[17:55] <oDuda> DaSkreech youre right !
[17:55] <TheGrammarFreak> Most distros have problems though
[17:56] <DaSkreech> phoenixz: Curses  I can't remeber the name of that command
[17:56] <DaSkreech> genii: What's the name of the command that allows you to see what is keeping a file open ?
[17:56] <genii> phoenixz, DaSkreech: lsof   ?
[17:56] <DaSkreech> tha'ts it
[17:58] <phoenixz> genii: well, thought of that, but I don't know the exact moment the file is changed.. its a quick open and close so lsof won't do the trick here..
[18:00] <TheGrammarFreak> Right, my sound card will only play out of the fron socket ATM, anyone got any idea why?
[18:00] <TheGrammarFreak> *front
[18:02] <DaSkreech> phoenixz: try the watch command
[18:02] <phoenixz> DaSkreech: thanks!
[18:07] <afeijo> hi group
[18:07] <afeijo> I'm trying to rip a dvd with k3b, but when I pick that option, nothing happens
[18:07] <TheGrammarFreak> Same
[18:08] <jason_froebe> afeijo - try handbrake instead - google it :)
[18:08] <afeijo> jason_froebe: thanks
[18:10] <afeijo> I forgot again the command to check my linux version :(
[18:10] <genii> afeijo: lsb_release -a      or   uname -a     usually.
[18:11] <afeijo> uname! Thanks genii
[18:11] <genii> afeijo: You're welcome
[18:12] <DaSkreech> or cat /etc/issue
[18:12] <afeijo> DaSkreech: issue have just the version, not if its 32 or 64bits
[18:12] <DaSkreech> You only asked for the version
[18:13] <rootalkin> romania???
[18:14] <sczgilae> anybody knows how to lock panels to all users when they login?
[18:15] <DaSkreech> !ro
[18:15] <DaSkreech> sczgilae: /etc/skel ?
[18:15] <afeijo> DaSkreech: indeed, sorry for my poor chose of words
[18:16] <sczgilae> DaSkreech yes, but where? there is .profile but i have to write a llittle scripts that lock the panels. how lock panels on konsole¿?
[18:17] <DaSkreech> sczgilae: You mean the plasma panels?
[18:17] <sczgilae> yes,
[18:19] <ralmar> Quick guys how do i cancel the "shutdown" command, my pc will shutdown in 2 mins and i need to cancel it thanks
[18:19] <DaSkreech> sczgilae: The config for a locked plasma panel is in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*
[18:20] <Dragnslcr> ralmar- shutdown -c
[18:20] <DaSkreech> Lock the panels and look there for the locked setting. Put that in /etc/skel/.kde and when a new user logs in for the first time the panels will be locked
[18:20] <DaSkreech> ralmar: man shutdown helps
[18:20] <DaSkreech> then type / cancel
[18:21] <sczgilae> im going to try
[18:21] <Dragnslcr> Guess we weren't fast enough for him
[18:42] <sczgilae> DaSkreech are u there?
[18:42] <DaSkreech> yeah?
[18:43] <ahmed> I installed efax i want to cofigure it to send and recieve faxes anyone could help me?
[18:43] <sczgilae> i have copied plasma-appletssrc to plasma-appletssrc.bak
[18:43] <sczgilae> then
[18:43] <sczgilae> i lock and unlonck the panel
[18:44] <sczgilae> and finally i have compared both
[18:44] <DaSkreech> ok
[18:44] <sczgilae> the result is strange, something like... geometry=numbers,numbers,numbers
[18:44] <ahmed> I installed efax i want to cofigure it to send and recieve faxes anyone could help me?
[18:45] <sczgilae> inmutability=1 and inmutability=2
[18:47] <DaSkreech> sczgilae: Those last two look promising :)
[18:54] <pantera69> hi all
[18:54] <DaSkreech> Hello
[18:55] <pantera69> hi
[18:57] <pantera69> someone from romania ??
[18:58] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: turns out that jaunty doesnt even detect my built in mic. luckily it picks up my quickcam super easily and outa the box too so its all good
[19:00] <DaSkreech> !ro
[19:00] <DaSkreech> pantera69: ^^
[19:01] <pantera69> ??
[19:01] <pantera69> esti din ro ?
[19:01] <eagles0513875> !ro | pantera69
[19:02] <pantera69> thx ubottu
[19:12] <anonimous_> упырь: и жывотновоцтво
[19:12] <eagles0513875> anonimous_: what language are you looking for
[19:12] <anonimous_> missed the channel
[19:12] <anonimous_> never mind
[19:13] <DaSkreech> !ru
[19:18] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, is it possible to get the network connection up without requiring to log in?
[19:19] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: Wifi?
[19:19] <anonimous_> Captain_Haddock:  sure
[19:20] <anonimous_> sysv-rc-conf
[19:21] <_abbenormal> hello guys is there an issue with 9.04 sources.list im getting a lot of errors
[19:25] <Mamarok> _abbenormal: what errors do you get?
[19:26] <_abbenormal> hold on setting up a paste bin for it
[19:28] <_abbenormal> now im nort getting a internet connection on this laptop hold on
[19:28] <afeijo> call me stupid, I installed email server here, works with smtp and imap. Now I need to enable the POP service, but I dont remember which mail server I installed... lol
[19:28] <gazra_> Hello
[19:28]  * DaSkreech shrugs
[19:28] <DaSkreech> Stupid
[19:29] <afeijo> a lot
[19:29] <afeijo> I belive its dovecot
[19:31] <Captain_Haddock> DaSkreech: yes, this is for a wifi connection via usb wifi adapter
[19:31] <DaSkreech> Try wicd
[19:31] <Captain_Haddock> sysv-rc-conf?
[19:32] <Captain_Haddock> "Automatically connect at boot - no user intervention required, even for encrypted networks"
[19:32] <Captain_Haddock> looks good
[19:32] <Captain_Haddock> thanks DaSkreech
[19:33] <Captain_Haddock> will I need to remove the networkmanager widget?
[19:33] <DaSkreech> You can if you like
[19:41] <_abbenormal> Mamarok, sorry i cann eem to get a network connection now with this kubuntu setup not finding under stsytem settings and newworking where i can even select my newtwork card
[19:42] <_abbenormal> cannt seem
[19:42] <Mamarok> _abbenormal: networkmanager
[19:43] <_abbenormal> not there or im not finding it
[19:44] <_abbenormal> network & connectivity only shows settings and sharing
[19:44] <Mamarok> _abbenormal: just start networkmanager with Alt+F2
[19:45] <Mamarok> actually, type Alt+F2, then type networkmanager
[19:48] <Captain_Haddock> DaSkreech: wicd removes network-manager during installation
[19:48] <Captain_Haddock> thanks - seems to work well
[19:48] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: ha ha nice
[19:50] <_abbenormal> ok no network manager just giving me network
[19:51] <liz> hello everyone, can someone help on using genisoimage to create a bootable disc?
[19:51] <Mamarok> _abbenormal: then check wether you have networkmanager or wcid installed
[19:52] <bkudria> where might i find the latest(ish) kopete trunk - in the kubuntu-experimental ppa, or the kubuntu-ppa/experimental branch?  looks like the latter, but i wanted to check. or maybe it might eb somewhere else?
[19:52] <Mamarok> bkudria: the latest trunk would be with Neon
[19:52] <Mamarok> !info neon
[19:52] <Mamarok> hm, let me see...
[19:53] <bkudria> Mamarok: i dodn't need the very latest, i just want a kopete with the skype plugin
[19:53] <bkudria> don't*
[19:55] <Mamarok> bkudria: anyway, trunk *is* available through Neon: https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive/ppa
[19:56]  * Mamarok checks her Kopete
[19:57] <bkudria> Mamarok: ok, thanks, i'll check it out
[19:57] <Mamarok> bkudria: the one in the KDE 4.3 beta has it, don't know about KDE 4.2.2 and 4.2.3
[19:57] <dondon> my xorg.conf file is basically empty, but i would like to see what settings ubuntu has set by default
[19:57] <Mamarok> bkudria: but KDE 4.3 beta is tricky to install, so...
[19:57] <liz> anyone know how to create a bootable iso image w/genisoimage?
[19:59] <Mamarok> dondon: you can find that in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:59] <dondon> thanks
[19:59] <bkudria> Mamarok: so you suggest i install from trunk?
[19:59] <Mamarok> !iso
[19:59] <bkudria> Mamarok: difficult to install how?  i'd prefer to install debs
[20:00] <Mamarok> bkudria: no, not at all, you can install the Neon nightly builds without it changing your basic settings, it installs separately and you run it in a separate session
[20:00] <Mamarok> liz: sorry, that was not what you were looking for I guess...
[20:00] <bkudria> Mamarok: eek - i'd want to use it in the same session...
[20:01] <DaSkreech> Isn't there a KDE 4.3 beat on kubuntu.org ?
[20:01] <Mamarok> bkudria: I don't know if the other version already include Skype support, will have to check that
[20:01] <bkudria> Mamarok: you mean the 4.3 beta?
[20:01] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: yes, but for experienced users only, as there are a lot of dependency issues
[20:01] <liz> Mamarok: looking at the site and I don't think that's it
[20:01] <DaSkreech> Ah ok
[20:02] <Mamarok> bkudria: no, the KDe 4.2.3 version
[20:02] <bkudria> Mamarok: i have 4.2.3, kopete 0.70.2, without it
[20:03] <liz> I want to turn a directory into an iso that is bootable, I was following instructions fine until the last one, doesn't seem to work
[20:04] <Mamarok> liz: there is a graphic tool for that, no?
[20:04] <Mamarok> ISO master if I'm not mistaken
[20:04] <liz> Mamarok: is there?
[20:04] <Mamarok> bkudria: the save way would be Neon
[20:05] <Mamarok> safe*
[20:05] <Mamarok> !info isomaster | liz
[20:05] <liz> Mamarok: if I show you the commands can you tell me if they work and if I have to do them one at a time??
[20:06] <_abbenormal> im reloading this laptop Mamarok
[20:06] <_abbenormal> ill brb
[20:06] <Mamarok> liz: there is a blog entry about ISO master too: http://ubuntufriends.wordpress.com/2007/03/31/edit-and-create-your-bootable-iso-image-the-easy-way/
[20:08] <Mamarok> liz: that seems much easier to use, I guess it's a frontend to genisoimage
[20:08] <liz> Mamarok: ah ok thanks
[20:18] <pulaski> hello, I've installed a package using dpkg -i packagename.deb now I want to remove and purge it of all configuration files.  dpkg man says I have to run the prerm script before and the postrm script after dpkg -r -P packagename.deb command.  Where are these prerm and postrm scripts? they don't exist on my box?
[20:19] <genii> pulaski: If it was from a .deb file, you can see the package afterwards in the normal package manager, uninstall it that way
[20:20] <Mamarok> pulaski: normally you just do sudo dpkg -r -P packagename, without the *.deb
[20:20]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:20] <Mamarok> genii: mid air collision again :)
[20:21] <genii> Hehe
[20:22] <pulaski> genii: thanks for responding.  I'm using the cl to do this which I figure is not a normal package manager.
[20:23] <pulaski> Mamarok: I'll just go ahead and use your suggestion thanks and see what happens.
[20:30] <pulaski> Mamarok: I just got a usage message telling me to use dselect or aptitude.  I just began running jaunty 9.04/kde4 and it has only the one kpackagekit.  I think kpackagekit is not very suitable.  Unlike hardy I can't use it to see what's installed on my box in order to remove it.
[20:30] <Jellygoose> evening guys
[20:30] <Jellygoose> any1 managed to remove the cashew in the top right corner? :<
[20:31] <pulaski> Mamarok: or genii is there a curses cl aptitude or dselect app in jaunty?
[20:31] <Captain_Haddock> Jellygoose: right click and "lock widgets"
[20:31] <Mamarok> pulaski: I like aptitude, works nicely and there is an ncurses interface you can access with the command aptitude
[20:32] <Mamarok> pulaski: aptitude is installed by default AFAIK
[20:32] <Jellygoose> Captain_Haddock: doesnt remove the on in the top right corner, only the small one in the taskbar..
[20:32] <Captain_Haddock> just using apt-get remove won't work?
[20:32] <Captain_Haddock> Jellygoose: ah
[20:32] <pulaski> Mamarok: Thanks,  I'l keep exerimenting.
[20:33] <Mamarok> pulaski: yaw :)
[20:33] <Jellygoose> I found this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=91009&forumpage=8 but I can't compile it since I need kdebase-dev installed and something is wrong with apt cause it won't install it.. =|
[20:33] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: why would you want to remove that?
[20:33] <Mamarok> the cashew I mean
[20:33] <Jellygoose> I don't really think it serves any meaning
[20:34] <Jellygoose> :o
[20:34] <Jellygoose> atleast not to me
[20:34] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: did you ever tried clicking on it and add an activity?
[20:34] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: and you can't remove it, you can just move it somewhere else on the desktop
[20:34] <Mamarok> it's part of plasma
[20:35] <Jellygoose> it's supposed to work with that plasmoid i linked though.. just can't compile it :o
[20:35] <Jellygoose> how do you mean add an activity btw?
[20:36] <Jellygoose> Mamarok:
[20:36] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: depends on your KDE 4 version though, but works in 4.2.2
[20:36] <cjae> is it normal for kpackagekit to never ask for a password? It may have once, but I have unchecked the remember my password and it still never asks for one
[20:36] <cjae> how can this be secure?
[20:37] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: click on it and zoom out
[20:37] <adam> kubuntu sux
[20:37] <Mamarok> cjae: well, it's not if someone else uses your login on that computer
[20:37] <Mamarok> adam: behave!
[20:38] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: yeah, did it..
[20:38] <adam> windows 7 is much better than kubuntu
[20:38] <cjae> it posted a bug about it but accidentally called it kpackage not with the kit part
[20:38] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: you can the add a secon + activity with the + sign
[20:38] <cjae> adam, not it is not
[20:39] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: add different widgets, background, etc
[20:39] <cjae> I am currently running both and window 7 is very slow
[20:39] <adam> i cant install firefox or flashpalyer
[20:39] <Mamarok> adam: last warning: read the topic and behave!
[20:40] <cjae> the only thing I have had to switch for is the ability to add an mp3 to an openoffice impress presentation
[20:40] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: mhm, i cant find any options other than zoom in and the usual appearance settings (?)
[20:40] <DaSkreech> adam: how are you installing it?
[20:40] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: what KDE version do you run?
[20:40] <cjae> but I have all the restricted extras in
[20:41] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: 4.2.something
[20:41] <pulaski> Mamarok: Yes I'm running aptitude, Its been a long time since I've played around with it.  I'd like to find the package I just installed "tagtool_0.12.3-3ubuntu2_i386.deb" What category of installed software should I be looking in?
[20:41] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: it ws because i had locked widgets
[20:42] <adam> i just download it from mozilla.com, when i open it, it coming many files
[20:42] <Jellygoose> it's very slow working in the out-zoomed mode..
[20:42] <adam> what shal i do?
[20:42] <jussi01> adam: thats not how you install it
[20:43] <cjae> it posted a bug about it but accidentally called it kpackage not with the kit part so what I am asking is ... did someone think it was in the distributions best interest to make the software installer only  the gui package installer only need the password once
[20:43] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: yctuall, the zoom out is only to make the activity settings, you then zoom in again and add the activity bar widget
[20:44] <jussi01> adam: go to system, kpackagekit, then search for firefox
[20:44] <adam> ok
[20:45] <Mamarok> cjae: you selected not to be reminded the password...
[20:45] <adam> nothing coming
[20:46] <Mamarok> adam: what is not comming?
[20:46] <Mamarok> adam: you must be more specific, we do not see your desktop from here...
[20:46] <adam> i cannot install firefox
[20:47] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: i can see this being useful if you actually use the desktop for anything.. i prefer an empty desktop with a nice wall though :o still want to get rid of the cashew after all :)
[20:47] <Mamarok> adam: did you go to systemsettings?
[20:47] <thenumber> Hi every body :)
[20:47] <adam> yes
[20:47] <phh> adam: how have you done ? It comes preinstalled ...
[20:47] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: as I said, ignore it, it's part of plasma
[20:47] <adam> i dont know
[20:47] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: you can't remove it
[20:47] <Mamarok> phh: I am handling it, thank you :)
[20:48] <phh> k
[20:48] <Mamarok> adam: there is an option to add and remove software, are you on it?
[20:48] <ibou__> what packages do i need to read all divx mp4 mkv dvd (...) on kmplayer?
[20:48] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=91009&forumpage=8 says I can, just need help installing the kdebase-dev package :)
[20:48] <ibou__> im on jaunty
[20:48] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev?
[20:48] <xjjk> ibou__: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:48] <cjae> Mamarok, ok sorry what was that
[20:49] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: yeah, not working cause it says it can't find all dependencies
[20:49] <Mamarok> phh: and firefox is not preinstalled in Kubuntu...
[20:49] <ibou__> xjjk: i tryed but i cant read mp4
[20:49] <xjjk> ibou__: what's mp4... Apple?
[20:49] <cjae> yes
[20:49] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: again, whyt KDE version do you use?
[20:49] <ibou__> xjjk: i don't know
[20:49] <phh> Mamarok: hum, it has always been so ?
[20:49] <xjjk> ibou__: you need binary codecs for that... look up Mediabuntu
[20:49] <Mamarok> cjae: did you reafd my last message?
[20:50] <xjjk> add those repositories, and add the w32codecs (or w64codecs)
[20:50] <Mamarok> phh: firefox is a gtk app, so no, it never was AFAIK
[20:50] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: 4.2.2
[20:50] <cjae> not quite Mamarok left too quickly
[20:50] <phh> xjjk: you don't need binary codecs for mp4 ...
[20:50] <ibou__> xjjk ok i try
[20:50] <xjjk> phh: what's needed?
[20:50] <ibou__> ?
[20:50] <phh> xjjk: standard mplayer with ffmpeg is enough
[20:50] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: that should work though...
[20:51] <ibou__> phh doesnt work
[20:51] <phh> but it may need some recent enough version
[20:51] <Mamarok> adam: are you still here?
[20:51] <phh> (i mean, no mplayer release, but a svn snapshot)
[20:51] <Mamarok> cjae: you selected not to be reminded the password...
[20:51] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: maybe something with my repos ?
[20:51] <phh> so i guess the solution is to add the repositeries and update packages
[20:51] <xjjk> phh: well, the stuff in mediabuntu afaik plays mp4 files, and solves ibou__ 's problem
[20:52] <jussi01> !mp3
[20:52] <phh> xjjk: yes i think so, but i don't think it's the w32codecs which does so
[20:52] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: if you have the default repos (main, universe, multiverse, and restricted) you have everything needed
[20:52] <ibou__> xjjk, phh thx
[20:52] <adam> yes, im here. i found it, but it will not install
[20:53] <xjjk> phh: I haven't kept up with it a while, but w32codecs provided Quicktime dlls that could be used for mplayer/xine
[20:53] <xjjk> I'm not usre what other package it'd have moved to
[20:53] <Mamarok> adam: did you enter firefox in the search bar? No capital letters allowed
[20:53] <cjae> Mamarok, that would be the first time ever I selected something like that on a distribution, but I am going to say I accidentally hit the no password, bit when I installed kde 4.3 from the ppa repo it gave the opportunity to uncheck it again and yet it still never asks for password
[20:54] <phh> xjjk: mmm maybe it will works then... but using those dlls is not needed. apple mp4 files are standard H264+AAC un mp4 container
[20:54] <adam> yes, now it download firefox, tnx
[20:54] <cjae> Mamarok, sorry that should say kde 4.2.3
[20:54] <phh> (and supported for a long time by mplayer/ffmpeg)
[20:55] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with main restricted universe multiverse should be enough?..
[20:55] <Mamarok> adam: once you have firefox installed, you need to install the flash package
[20:55] <Mamarok> adam: search for flashplayer
[20:55] <adam> ok
[20:55] <Mamarok> cjae: I think you can remove it in the wallet, did you try open that?
[20:56] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: this is the error I get:
[20:56] <Jellygoose> kdebase-dev:
[20:56] <Jellygoose>  Depends: libkonq5-dev but it is not going to be installed
[20:56] <cjae> Mamarok, the wallet only asks me for kmail
[20:56] <Jellygoose>  Depends: kdepimlibs5-dev but it is not going to be installed
[20:56] <Jellygoose> ops, sorry bout that
[20:57] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: that is strange, try installing kde-devel
[20:57] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: and use the pastebin next time :)
[20:57] <DaSkreech> adam: got help?
[20:58] <Mamarok> cjae: then I think it's somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config/
[20:58] <Mamarok> cjae: look for kpackagekitrc or similar
[20:58] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: yes, I did
[20:58] <adam> no, I think I learn how I can istall software
[20:59] <Mamarok> adam: yes, you did get help from me :)
[20:59] <adam> tnx a lot
[20:59] <Mamarok> adam: yaw :)
[20:59] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: I get the same error with kde-devel
[20:59] <DaSkreech> adam: Great :)
[20:59] <DaSkreech> You can ask anyother question you like here
[20:59] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: Enabled multiverse ?
[21:00] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: could you send me your sources.list in paste.ubuntu.com please?
[21:00] <cjae> Mamarok, ok but I have a system that never asks me for a password whenever I try to install something, why when I report a bug do they tell me, you must have entered you password once before?
[21:00] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: what?
[21:01] <Mamarok> cjae: sorry, don't follow you there... you must have entered it and disabled the reminder
[21:01] <cjae> Mamarok, how do I make the thing that lets you uncheck remember my password
[21:01] <cjae> respawn
[21:01] <Mamarok> cjae: just told you :) :
[21:02] <Mamarok> cjae: then I think it's somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config/
[21:02] <Mamarok> cjae: look for kpackagekitrc or similar
[21:02] <cjae> Mamarok, you cant make it happen with the guii
[21:02] <cjae> -i
[21:02] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: adam wanted flashplugin So I figured you enabled Multiverse with him
[21:02] <DaSkreech> assuming that adam is a him
[21:02] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/185987/  (i'm using mint on this computer but it's based on kubuntu and uses the same repos)
[21:03] <adam> yes, am i boy:D
[21:03] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: I still wait for feedback now
[21:04] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: your sources.list is ok, just don't understand why you can't instal kdebase-dev in KDE 4.2.2
[21:04] <cjae> Mamarok, I only have kpackagerc and kpackagekit in ~/.kde/share/config
[21:05] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: from me?
[21:05] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: no, from adam, and don't worry, I was going to tell him...
[21:05] <cjae> and neither has something like password remember = true
[21:05] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: :s maybe I should try the kde room?
[21:05] <Mamarok> cjae: try removing those, they will be recreated when you start KDE again
[21:06] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: no, this is distribution related, they will send you back here
[21:06] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: mhm ok
[21:06] <cjae> brb
[21:07] <cthompson_> I am trying to extract a war file to a specific folder(that doesn't exist)??
[21:07] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: could be something wrong with the packages then...?
[21:07] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: well, I don't know if it could be mint using different packages for that...
[21:08] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: for sure it works here on a vanilla Kubuntu
[21:08] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: hm ok
[21:08] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: could install kdebase-dev without problem
[21:08] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: if I remove the mint entries form the list maybe..?
[21:08] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: kk
[21:09] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: I don't know, you might consider upgrading to KDE 4.2.3, it's a bugfix release so no risk with that so far
[21:10] <dps> hi all just installed kubuntu (use to have ubuntu) I cant seem to drag anything to the desktop or copy anything there - how come?
[21:10] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: aight, ill start with that then
[21:11] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: and you really shoudl remove mint, it's not supported by us anyway
[21:11] <Mamarok> should*
[21:11] <dps> cant right click on desktop and choose create folder or anything - is that normal in kubuntu??
[21:11] <dps> or is my desktop screwed :-)
[21:11] <Mamarok> dps: yes, it' doesn't work that way, you can use the folderview widget
[21:12] <dps> Mamarok: Allright and that means that I cant put downloads there and so on
[21:12] <cjae> Mamarok, did nt work still just let anything be installed
[21:12] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: yeah I would install kubuntu from the start if could go back but i've done so much tweaking now I don't know if I want to start from scratch again heh :p
[21:13] <jussi01> dps: yes you can, just add folderview plasmoid...
[21:13] <Mamarok> dps: yes, firefox will put downloads to the desktop by default and you will see thoe there then, but I usually change it to the Downloads folder in my home directory
[21:13] <Mamarok> cjae: hm, that's weird
[21:13] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: Cute he left right before you said that
[21:13] <Mamarok> cjae: definitely a bug then
[21:14] <dps> Mamarok:Ohhh okay just found the folderwiev widget - cool - but how about shortcuts etc
[21:14] <DaSkreech> dps: swithc your containment ot folderview
[21:14] <Mamarok> dps: in the menu, just right click on the item it will let you add to the desktop
[21:14] <dps> Mamarok: sweet
[21:14] <dps> DaSkreech: thank
[21:15] <cjae> Mamarok, and what I meant from before is that I posted a bug about it and they say well you put your password in once so its not our fault, you should have to put in your password everytime, I will try to find the bug report and show you
[21:16] <Mamarok> cjae: I believe you, but in some way they are right, you did enter your password and disabled the reminder, at least once...
[21:16] <Mamarok> cjae: I wil check on how to add that reminder back, moment
[21:17] <cjae> Mamarok, I am pretty sure I would never do something like that, I am just asking question with the assumption I did that
[21:17] <Mamarok> cjae: it does not disable itself for sure
[21:18] <cjae> Mamarok,  you are using kde 4.2.3 ?
[21:18] <Mamarok> !mint > Jellygoose
[21:18] <Mamarok> cjae: yes, also, give me some time to sort that out :)
[21:18] <cjae> ok
[21:19] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: yes I know, thanks.. it's just that I've gotten good advice here before :)
[21:19] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: Are you using KDE 4.3?
[21:20] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: ok
[21:20] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: yes
[21:20] <DaSkreech> of course you are silly question :) How many containments come withit?
[21:20] <Mamarok> cjae: in systemsettings ->adcancedtab ->policykit authorization
[21:20] <cjae> Mamarok,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeadmin/+bug/371988
[21:21] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: whas that a question for me?
[21:21] <Mamarok> cjae: see my message above
[21:21] <DaSkreech> Yes m'am
[21:21] <cjae> yes sorry
[21:21] <DaSkreech> Is it stil just two?
[21:21] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: containments?
[21:22] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: what are containments?
[21:22] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: ah, you mean desktop activities?
[21:22] <DaSkreech> Yes :)
[21:22] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[21:23] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: I have three activated right now, and can move the activity bar on all three of them in the position I like :)
[21:24] <cjae> Mamarok, how come I cant select defaults for policykit
[21:25] <Mamarok> cjae: you have to change the authorisations manually, it's in the org.freedesktop section
[21:26] <Mamarok> cjae: defaults allways depends on the intial policy given by the admin of the system, so there is no "defaults"
[21:26] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: Ha ha No I meant types. You can make a Desktop and Folder View type currently Is it still just those two?
[21:26] <adam> how can i change the username?
[21:27] <Mamarok> adam: your username you mean?
[21:27] <adam> yes
[21:27] <DaSkreech> adam: on the computer or on here?
[21:28] <cjae> Mamarok, install local file anyone = No and Console = No and Active Console = No
[21:28] <Mamarok> adam: in kuser, you will need to give your password, be careful with that :)
[21:28] <Mamarok> cjae: check all the authorisations
[21:28] <adam> i need change username on pc
[21:30] <Mamarok> adam: in the menu -> applications -> system -> kuser
[21:30] <Mamarok> adam: be careful with that, you can break your access if you mistype something
[21:30] <adam> wow
[21:30] <DaSkreech> You can break it if you type it right :)
[21:30] <DaSkreech> NOthing that logging out won't fix
[21:31] <_abbenormal> Mamarok, why when you install some of the wirless stuff it removes the networkmanger
[21:32] <Mamarok> _abbenormal: because wicd and noetworkmanager conflict with each other
[21:32] <Mamarok> and the network manager widget depends on networkmanager
[21:32] <adam> what now, i click on edit, but it coming nothing
[21:32] <_abbenormal> ok so is there a way to get it back now that its removed
[21:33] <Mamarok> adam: try running it from the krunner:
[21:33] <Mamarok> Alt+F2, then type kuser in that window
[21:34] <Mamarok> adam: wait, my bad, you have to type kdesudo kuser
[21:34] <Jellygoose> can anyone tell me the address for the ubuntu experimental repo ?
[21:34] <Mamarok> adam: then your user is at the bottom of the list, ID is 1000
[21:35] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[21:35] <Mamarok> adam: you can only change the Full Name, not the login name though, that is set on installation only
[21:36] <DaSkreech> adam: You can change that as well if you like
[21:36] <adam> i see
[21:36] <Jellygoose> Mamarok: k, thanks
[21:36] <DaSkreech> adam: You wanted to change your displayed name or the name you use to login?
[21:37] <Mamarok> adam: I wouldn't, it implies you have to change the directory, etc....
[21:37] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: Two commands :)
[21:37] <cjae> Refresh system sources, anyone = no , console = no  active console yes, trust key used for signing packages, anyone = no, console =no, active console = admin auth
[21:37] <Mamarok> Jellygoose: you need to add the gpgp key then
[21:37] <Mamarok> cjae: why do you list that here?
[21:38] <adam> both of them
[21:38] <cjae> Mamarok, its all admin auth anyway except eula
[21:39] <DaSkreech> adam: Ah wait three commands
[21:39] <Mamarok> cjae: well, set what you want to have there, save and logout/login KDE again
[21:39] <cjae> Mamarok, this computer is not connected directly anyway
[21:42] <adam> i think, its possible to remove old user, and create new
[21:42] <adam> in kuser
[21:42] <adam> on
[21:43] <Mamarok> adam: wait for DaSkreech to tell you
[21:43] <adam> ok
[21:44] <DaSkreech> adam: alt+F2 -> kdesudo kate /etc/passwd
[21:44] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: I think he should exit kuser first
[21:44] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: Oh thought that happened already. adam can you close kuser ?
[21:45] <adam> done
[21:45] <DaSkreech> At the bottom you should have the user adam
[21:45] <cross> i got a question
[21:46] <cross> the top panel is flipped
[21:46] <cross> the logon is in the middle and the left part is right
[21:46] <DaSkreech> adam: change every occurence of adam to your newusername (no space)
[21:46] <cross> how do i make it normal again?
[21:46] <DaSkreech> cross: the logon ?
[21:47] <Mamarok> cross: there is no top panel by default...
[21:47] <ibou__> je peux lire les divx maintenant (kmplayer, jaunty) mais l'image est toute daccadée et je n'ai pas le son
[21:47] <DaSkreech> !fr
[21:47] <cross> hmm how to explain ^^
[21:47] <DaSkreech> adam: What is the new name that you would like to use?
[21:47] <cross> i got  Ubuntu 9.04
[21:47] <Mamarok> cross: make a screenshot and send it to imagebin.ca?
[21:48] <DaSkreech> cross: This is Gnome?
[21:48] <cross> yep
[21:48] <Mamarok> cross: you use Gnome? Here is for KDE only
[21:48] <Mamarok> cross: Gnome support is in #ubuntu
[21:48] <DaSkreech> Well not only but Gnome answers are much faster in #ubuntu
[21:48] <cross> oh didnt know that
[21:48] <adam> groznykid
[21:48] <cross> thanks and bye :-) *wave*
[21:48] <ibou__> i can read divx now but the the pictures are jerked and i dont have the sound
[21:48] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: that's why there a re different channels btw, here is for Kubuntu support
[21:50] <adam> nothing change. must i restart computer or something?
[21:50] <DaSkreech> adam: groznykid:x:1000:1000:YourName,,,:/home/groznykid:/bin/bash
[21:51] <DaSkreech> adam: Should look something like that
[21:52] <DaSkreech> adam: Is that ok ?
[21:52] <adam> yes, but, its dont work
[21:53] <DaSkreech> adam: ok Save that then open a console
[21:53] <robinr> oh dear. The menu bar in konqueror disapperad :( How do I get it back?
[21:53] <Mamarok> robinr: right click on the tool bar and add it back?
[21:54] <Mamarok> robinr: you can also toggle it with Ctrl+M
[21:54] <adam> done
[21:54] <DaSkreech> type sudo mkdir /home/groznykid && sudo cp /home/adam/* /home/groznykid && sudo chown -R groznykid:gorznykid /home/groznykid
[21:55] <robinr> Mamarok: Ctrl-M it was
[21:55] <robinr> thanks
[21:56] <DaSkreech> adam: after that you should be able to logout and log back in as groznykid
[21:57] <adam> i have a problem, i cant type passworld  on console
[21:57] <DaSkreech> adam: Yes you can it doesn't show what you are typing
[21:58] <DaSkreech> adam: Press and hold backspace for 4 seconds to clear what you were typing and just type your password normally and press enter
[21:58] <adam> ok
[21:58] <DaSkreech> Worked?
[22:04] <adam> lol, i think i forgot my passworld:D
[22:04] <DaSkreech> adam: That's a problem ;)
[22:04] <eshat> Does amarok2 support ipod devices?
[22:05] <DaSkreech> Sure you forgot it?
[22:05] <adam> computer say: Wrong passworld
[22:05] <DaSkreech> adam: ok lets try this. alt+F2 -> kdesudo konsole
[22:07] <adam> it asking for passworld!
[22:07] <eshat> world ?
[22:07] <Mamarok> eshat: depends on the model, you should ask on #amarok
[22:07] <eshat> Mamarok: ok
[22:07] <DaSkreech> adam: And you don't remember it at all?
[22:07] <Mamarok> eshat: and be patient :)
[22:08] <eshat> Mamarok: Wasn't I ?
[22:09] <Mamarok> eshat: well, if you do net get an answer in 2 minutes and ping back... :)
[22:09] <adam> i think i change it, when i try to change username
[22:10] <DaSkreech> adam: Ha ha oh gosh that's funny
[22:11] <DaSkreech> adam: try this su groznykid
[22:11] <BlackAura> quick question guys, did a base install of 9.04 on a new machine (one of our company's semi-old dell boxes), and grub is sitting with a flashing cursor
[22:11] <DaSkreech> use the same password you had before
[22:11] <DaSkreech> adam: In console
[22:12] <BlackAura> as far as I can tell, grub can't find the kernel image.....maybe it can't even find the proper hard drive to be honest.  Oddly enough though, the livecd boots perfectly without any issues (both normal, and alternate cds)
[22:12] <DaSkreech> adam: Did you close kate ?
[22:12] <adam> yes
[22:12] <DaSkreech> ok try su groznykid
[22:13] <DaSkreech> with the same password
[22:13] <BlackAura> as per some solutions I read about googling the issue, I've tried pci=nomsi and noacpi and noapic as boot parameters, and none of the options have worked (combined or singularly)
[22:13] <adam> command not found
[22:14] <DaSkreech> adam: in the konsole it said password not found ?
[22:14] <Mamarok> BlackAura: the CD doesn't use grub
[22:14] <BlackAura> Mamarok: ahh, interesting, which bootloader is the livecd using?
[22:14] <cjae> Mamarok, hi ya nothing worked
[22:15] <Mamarok> BlackAura: but there is a recovery mode option fora failed installation IIRC on CD startup
[22:15] <Mamarok> cjae: well, then it's a bug in your version, but good newa, fixed in the later version here on KDE 4.3 beta
[22:15] <Mamarok> news
[22:15] <BlackAura> Mamarok: I've dropped into a recovery shell on /dev/sda1 using the alternate livecd, and modified the menu.list file that way....should I install LILO instead and try that, or is there another recommended bootloader?
[22:16] <adam> i dont know, it say command not found
[22:16] <Mamarok> BlackAura: arghs, no lilo is worse to install, just use grub, but make sure the kernel is where grub says it is...
[22:16] <Mamarok> BlackAura: check the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:17] <BlackAura> Mamarok: yeah, actually I did a bit more googling and it looks like other people have managed to boot with lilo....hmmmmm  (as per http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-330397.html )
[22:17] <DaSkreech> adam: ok /bin/su groznykid
[22:17]  * Mamarok wonders why lilo hasn't been burried under 5 mio tons of solid rock yet
[22:17] <BlackAura> Mamarok: lol, it used to be the standard for most distros, from what I remember
[22:17] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: It's cute?
[22:18] <Mamarok> BlackAura: lilo is extremely complicated FWIW, so grub is really the first choice to go
[22:18] <Mamarok> BlackAura: I just think the menu.lst doesn't give the correct location for the kernel
[22:18] <BlackAura> Mamarok: yeah, every time you change an option, you have to reinstall lilo into the MBR, as part of the data there is the config
[22:19] <BlackAura> Mamarok: quite possible, I did try using /dev/sda1 instead of the uuid's (don't fully understand those....I'm old school), but that didn't fix anything.
[22:20] <Mamarok> BlackAura: hm, I don't think /dev/sda1 is really used, wasn't it just numbers like 0.1 and such?
[22:20]  * Mamarok hasn't touched grub in ages
[22:20] <BlackAura> Mamarok: er, sorry, I'm referring to the kernel line   root=/dev/sda1 instead of the uuid string
[22:21] <BlackAura> but I don't even think it's getting that far
[22:21] <Mamarok> BlackAura: the HD address is (hd0,0) AFAIR
[22:21] <BlackAura> Mamarok: yep......  root(hd0,0)
[22:21] <Mamarok> BlackAura: what does the bootlog tell you?
[22:21] <BlackAura> Mamarok: uh....is there a grub boot log....didn't even know that, lol
[22:22] <adam> i think its better to reinstall the OS
[22:22] <BlackAura> Mamarok: I mean, it's not even loading the kernel image, so either it can't find the kernel, or it can't find the hard drive, or the partition, or something like that.
[22:22] <Mamarok> BlackAura: you need to give the /root/vmlinuz.... address in grub
[22:22] <adam> or change to windows 7
[22:22] <BlackAura> ...
[22:22] <Mamarok> adam: stop that!
[22:22] <BlackAura> tried Windows 7 beta
[22:23] <BlackAura> on my home computer
[22:23] <BlackAura> it didn't like my audio card :p
[22:23] <Mamarok> adam: I warned you before
[22:23] <BlackAura> this is my work machine though
[22:23] <Mamarok> BlackAura: that is off topic, please
[22:23] <adam> hehe, what
[22:23] <BlackAura> Mamarok: sorry
[22:23] <Mamarok> adam: I told you to behave, read the IRC guidelines for this channel
[22:23] <BlackAura> one sec, I'll load into the recovery console again and see what I can find
[22:23] <Mamarok> adam: type /topic
[22:24] <DaSkreech> adam: You have a live CD ?
[22:24] <adam> no, i have a dvd with this OS
[22:24] <DaSkreech> adam: Fine when you boot it up you get a choice to run the OS live right?
[22:24] <DaSkreech> instead of installing?
[22:25] <tuxmania> Hi, really like what you guys has done with jaunty jackalope and KDE4, thanks all
[22:25] <Mamarok> tuxmania: thank you, nice to hear!
[22:26] <BlackAura> tuxmania: ditto, I'm loving the latest KDE
[22:26] <DaSkreech> Soon to be the old KDE
[22:26] <UKGent> I have just installed KDE4/Jaunty off a DVD which I burned and it is great. I absolutely love it.
[22:26] <tuxmania> Mamarok: Im a longtime Gnome user thats been converted lately
[22:26] <Mamarok> tuxmania: glad you like it :)
[22:26] <DaSkreech> adam: boot up the DVD and when the dekstop comes up login here and shout at me
[22:26] <Mamarok> BlackAura: nice :)
[22:27] <tuxmania> Mamarok: the thing that i really like is how easy it is to d/l gadgets, icons, themes and such
[22:28] <tuxmania> now if i only can ween myself off of my firefox tit ;P
[22:28] <skafti> hello
[22:28] <Mamarok> tuxmania: tried firefox-3.5?
[22:28] <adam> but, first i must install another OS, and after that can i just boot from the cd
[22:29] <Mamarok> adam: no, you can boot from the DVD normally
[22:29] <UKGent> I have Xubuntu on my lap-top because of the crap Nvidia Card but the PC is working great with KDE4. Both AMD 64 machines but with limited memory. Tried Gnome but it hated my monitor!
[22:29] <tuxmania> Mamarok: yes, but i dont like non-native apps that much, especially not when im managing terminal-servers
[22:29] <DaSkreech> adam: Hmm? You can boot from the DVD without a Hard drive
[22:29] <DaSkreech> I'm doing it now