[03:14] <barslow> this sucks
[03:14] <Corkster> joseph_: will download and install themes for you
[03:14] <unavailable> ok guys i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:14] <barslow> i hate 8.04
[03:14] <Corkster> i love it
[03:15] <tc111> i absolutely love it
[03:15] <barslow> your brainwashed
[03:15] <pxwebdev> you know I have mixed feelings on it
[03:15]  * IndyGunFreak lovfes 8.04
[03:15] <MrWizeGuy1983> barslow, what's not to love about 8.04?
[03:15] <plik> c0nn0r_: lots of cloices for pro audio editing, but FinalCut is what you'll miss most, photoshop will work under wine or win4lin
[03:15] <barslow> nothing works nearly as well as 7.10
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> barslow: lol, brainwashed?
[03:15] <pxwebdev> honestly most of the time I like 8 but sometimes I like 7
[03:15] <orangepeelbeef> 8.04 is excellent
[03:15] <barslow> i'm having Trash issues in 8.04, somehow i ended up with a desktop folder in my trash there is nothing in it but more desktop folders its literally a desktop folder with thousands of desktop folders inside eachother.... all empty
[03:15] <joseph_> Can somebody help installing themes?:o
[03:15] <plik> s/cloices/choices/
[03:15] <c0nn0r_> I dont edit audio. Just video
[03:15] <hiptobecubic> MrWizeGuy1983, the parts that don't work right away.
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> barslow: my system works perfrectly,
[03:15] <barslow> i also have thousands of tmp files on my extra partition
[03:15] <Corkster> no KDE4 it BLOWZ !
[03:16] <hiptobecubic> barslow, that is an awesome problem you've got there
[03:16] <c0nn0r_> well... I will still have to think about going over to Unbuntu then
[03:16] <orangepeelbeef> whats wrong with kde4
[03:16] <c0nn0r_> thx 4 tha helpz
[03:16] <tc111> joseph_: themes for what app
[03:16] <CWii> So I needed some help..
[03:16] <Corkster> buggy !
[03:16] <pxwebdev> barslow: did you do an upgrade from 7?
[03:16] <Poprocks> barslow, can't you just empty your trash to get rid of it?
[03:16] <NetEcho_> Hi there, I'm using the ATI Restricted driver and for some reason whenever I play a OpenGL game it flashes but is still playable ( ATI Radeon X800 on a 20" Widescreen LCD)
[03:16] <spoon_man> I agree with hiptobecubic, barslow
[03:16] <barslow> yea
[03:16] <MrWizeGuy1983> hiptobecubic, what worked right away before that 8.04 doesn't work right away? i went from mandriva 2008 spring to hardy heron
[03:16] <plik> things are getting better, but not there yet
[03:16] <barslow> no emptying trash wont work
[03:16] <dlf> it'd be nice if my max resoultion could be larger . . . someone wanted me to go to the device manager?
[03:16] <CWii> But I'm not completly sure I'll get it :P
[03:16] <barslow> wont let me
[03:16] <pxwebdev> barslow, you upgraded?
[03:16] <barslow> yes
[03:17] <spoon_man> MrWizeGuy1983, wifi has been hit-or-miss with hardy
[03:17] <unavailable> do a clean install... would get rid of your trash problem :P
[03:17] <CWii> I need wi-fi help!
[03:17] <pxwebdev> barslow: what happens if you remove the file from the directory as sudo or root?
[03:17] <CWii> Gusty*
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> whats the terminal command to restart a computer?
[03:17] <kelvin_> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 and configured the Bluetooth using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4910397 but for some reason even when it is detected it don't wanna work, anybody can help?
[03:17] <pxwebdev> reboot
[03:17] <Chikubu> the sessions manager lets me add start up commands for the current user, how can i make global commands for users after xorg loads?
[03:17] <MrWizeGuy1983> spoon_man, my hardy works awesome with wifi, that's odd to me
[03:17] <hiptobecubic> MrWizeGuy1983, i was ust speculating. i don't know how much gutsy sucked or not. i'm a newcomer as well
[03:17] <pxwebdev> sudo reboot
[03:17] <barslow> pxwebdev: i dont know how to do that
[03:17] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak: sudo reboot now
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> pxwebdev: thank you
[03:17] <spoon_man> MrWizeGuy1983, then you hit instead of missing :)
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: gracias.
[03:17] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak: Prego!
[03:17] <unavailable> scunizi ive found i don't need the *now*
[03:18] <MrWizeGuy1983> spoon_man, that's good, i guess cuz i have a sony with mostly intel hardware
[03:18] <Scunizi> unavailable: that may be true .. however when initiating a shutdown you do.. I do it out of habit
[03:18] <spoon_man> MrWizeGuy1983, about every ten minutes, or less, we get someone coming in here saying that their wifi can't connect in Hardy
[03:18] <unavailable> scunizi now if i did shutdown -r   i would have to do *now*
[03:18] <pxwebdev> barslow: ok, You can go into terminal, navigate to the folder where the files are and do sudo rm filename if I remember correctly
[03:18] <MrWizeGuy1983> that's sad spoon_man but i have some minor issues i need to fix too
[03:18] <Scunizi> unavailable: yep
[03:19] <unavailable> ok guys i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> MrWizeGuy1983: like what?
[03:19] <barslow> ill giv it a try
[03:19] <NetEcho_> Does anyone know how to fix the weird refresh problems with OpenGL applications using the ATI driver?
[03:19] <unavailable> pxwebdev but how do you navigate to the trash?
[03:19] <FAJALOU> hi i just set up dansguardian/tinyproxy/firehol, and now i cannot connect to anything but freenode in all of my lists.  I do not get errors, but it just gives me an endless connecting symbol,  any thoughts?
[03:19] <unavailable> pxwebdev in terminal
[03:19] <hudymoreira> # Salckware
[03:19] <barslow> pxwebdev: how do you navigate to a .folder
[03:20] <hudymoreira> help
[03:20] <Scunizi> unavailable: cd .trash?
[03:20] <tc111> spoon_man, MrWizeGuy1983: i've done 8 different installs with bcm4308, 4310, 4311, 4312, intel, and atheros and never had a single problem. all new install all installed with a wired connection in place during install.
[03:20] <tc111> +-5/
[03:20] <tc111> oops
[03:20] <Felonious> NetEcho ATI's openGL support is quite shoddy in my opinion
[03:20] <mysterioso> how do I find my ip addresse in the terminal?
[03:20] <legend2440> for some reason on boot i am getting text progress instead of just progress bar.  can someone check my menu.lst file and tell me if order of words quiet and splash is right?    http://paste.ubuntu.com/22999/
[03:20] <joseph_> Where can I find themes for Ubuntu?
[03:20] <unavailable> bash: cd: .trash: No such file or directory
[03:20] <hudymoreira> alguem fala portugues?
[03:20] <Felonious> !themes
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> tc111: my atheros was gravy to set up.
[03:21] <spoon_man> tc111, the problem comes in people not being able to get the right packages on install because they're using only a wifi connection
[03:21] <Flannel> mysterioso: ifconfig
[03:21] <mysterioso> flannel thankyou verymuch
[03:21] <coreyo> orangepeelbeef, 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server" did the trick, along with a password reset on the root user.  Thanks.
[03:21] <unavailable> scunizi bash: cd: .trash: No such file or directory
[03:21] <orangepeelbeef> coreyo: no probs man :)
[03:21] <Scunizi> unavailable: looking .. hang on
[03:21] <Poprocks> barslow, ok is there anything *else* in your trash you want to keep, or will it be ok if everything in there is gone
[03:21] <spoon_man> tc111, if you can get access to the repositories, then you're usually fine; but if you're wifi isn't working, and you have no wired option, well...
[03:21] <FAJALOU> hi i just set up dansguardian/tinyproxy/firehol, and now i cannot connect to anything but freenode in all of my lists.  I do not get errors, but it just gives me an endless connecting symbol,  any thoughts?
[03:22] <barslow> Poprocks: theres nothing else in there
[03:22] <barslow> sudo rm doesnt allow me to delete "directories"
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> spoon_man: that would make me wonder who you're stealing the connection from..lol
[03:22] <Flannel> barslow: that's correct.  You need -rf for that
[03:22] <MrWizeGuy1983> barslow, run sudo nautilus
[03:22] <barslow> i can do that
[03:22] <Flannel> MrWizeGuy1983, barslow, gksu nautilu, not sudo nautilus
[03:22] <Poprocks> barslow, try:  "rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*" with no quotes
[03:22] <Poprocks> err
[03:23] <tc111> spoon_man: like i said, all done with a wired connection in place. couldn't imagine doing it without... take me back to 5.04....
[03:23] <Poprocks> add a sudo before that
[03:23] <spoon_man> IndyGunFreak hehe, I only use wired; i'm still not comfortable with wifi security
[03:23] <tc111> spoon_man: just kiddin'
[03:23] <Scunizi> unavailable: cd /home/.Trash-0 and cd /home/.Trash-<username> and cd /home/Trash-root  .. hope that helps
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> spoon_man: of coruse the other option is, download the files you need to set up your wireless w/o internet, and keep them with yoru back up(thats what i do w/ mine)..
[03:23] <barslow> poprocks: from the .Trash directory?
[03:23] <plouffe> .
[03:23] <tc111> IndyGunFreak: aptoncd?
[03:23] <unavailable> barslow >> see last from scunizi
[03:24] <Poprocks> barslow, doesn't matter where you run it.  I've put an absolute directory in the command.  "sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*"
[03:24] <tc111> IndyGunFreak: from a similar install
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> spoon_man: i wasn't either for a LONG time, just recently finally started using it... i find WPA properly configured, to be pretty damn secure.
[03:24] <spoon_man> IndyGunFreak: yeah, but a lot of people are coming in blind from the windows world
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> tc111: no, i've never used aptoncd.. but thats a good idea to.
[03:24] <Scunizi> unavailable: there's also a .Trash-1000 in root
[03:24] <Soulwarp> !trash | barslow
[03:25] <Scunizi> unavailable: as well as a trash on each removable storage device you plug in..
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> tc111: i just have madwifi, a patch for madwifi for my atheros driver, and the instructions to set them up... and it works for me no prob.
[03:25] <kelvin_> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 and configured the Bluetooth using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4910397 but for some reason even when it is detected it don't wanna work, anybody can help?
[03:25] <barslow> using sudo nautilus worked :)
[03:25] <barslow> thanks for the help
[03:25] <MrWizeGuy1983> yay barslow
[03:25] <FAJALOU> hi i just set up dansguardian/tinyproxy/firehol, and now i cannot connect to anything but freenode in all of my lists.  I do not get errors, but it just gives me an endless connecting symbol,  any thoughts?
[03:25] <unavailable> lol
[03:25] <unavailable>  i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:25] <MrWizeGuy1983> i thought sudo nautilus works, people say it doesn't though, what's the deal?
[03:25] <Scunizi> barslow: you should use gksudo nautilus if you're going to do that
[03:25] <tc111> IndyGunFreak: no probs with my atheros either, 8.04 has been great with all my wifi's
[03:25] <Reformer81> Trying to play a DVD in Hardy.  VLC and Totem both crash (totem gives many errors:  libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1575)  What gives?
[03:26] <webcamwonder> MrWizeGuy1983: gksu nautilus
[03:26] <unavailable> mrwizeguy1983 your supposed to use gksudo nautilus
[03:26] <pxwebdev> see I knew it was a sudo thing
[03:26] <barslow> ok, i still have issues with the trash tho, when its deleting stuff the progress bar freezes
[03:26] <spoon_man> barslow, when using a graphical app, gksudo is better -- use sudo for apps that don't use the CLI -- just for future reference :)
[03:26] <MrWizeGuy1983> webcamwonder, sudo nautilus works for me, why use anything else unavailable ?
[03:26] <Scunizi> FAJALOU: check dansguardian settings.. it's blocking you.
[03:26] <pxwebdev> patience....
[03:26] <barslow> thanks spoonman
[03:26] <unavailable> !gksudo
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> tc111: mine has a few issues, it gets misdetected by the kernel... but its been worked out w/ a patch on madwifi
[03:26] <Flannel> MrWizeGuy1983: Because you'll run into problems with using sudo for graphical programs
[03:26] <FAJALOU> Scunizi: which settings do you think?  ie where?
[03:26] <tc111> IndyGunFreak: nothing like the harrowing days of 6.10's gnome-network-manager... think i replaced it as soon as i could on every wifi install
[03:26] <spoon_man> barslow, er use sudo for apps that DO use only the CLI...
[03:27] <MrWizeGuy1983> Flannel, so you use gksu for graphical programs?
[03:27] <webcamwonder> MrWizeGuy1983: Yes
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> tc111: lol.. i didn't start using wireless till gutsy, so i don't know those days.
[03:27] <tin> so, i'm in the process or searching for solutions, but anyone have any resources on getting pulseaudio going for a gutsy->hardy upgraded system?
[03:27] <mysterioso> I am using a laptop, with 7.1 right, now, and I have a desktop here with 7.1 but the terminal is completely white on my desktop.  whats the deal?
[03:27] <barslow> well i dont know what CLI is
[03:27] <Scunizi> FAJALOU: it's been 2 years since I looked at it.. couldn't tell you.
[03:27] <legend2440> for some reason on boot i am getting text progress instead of just progress bar in Hardy.  can someone check my menu.lst file and tell me if order of words splash and quiet is right? my menu.lst backup has them reversed and don't know which is correct   http://paste.ubuntu.com/22999/
[03:27] <joseph_> What section do I look under for themes on Gnome look for the last Ubuntu version?
[03:27] <unavailable>  i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:27] <barslow> so ill just stick with gksudo i guess
[03:27] <Soulwarp> MrWizeGuy1983: it's good practice to use gksudo rather than sudo when you are executing a GUI under root
[03:27] <tc111> IndyGunFreak: lucky you!!
[03:27] <webcamwonder> barslow: Command Line Interface, the terminal
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[03:27] <spoon_man> !cli | barslow
[03:27] <MalMen> hello
[03:27] <joseph_> What section do I look under for themes on Gnome look for the last Ubuntu version?
[03:27] <barslow> haha oh
[03:27] <Flannel> MrWizeGuy1983: yes, gksu for graphical programs (or gksudo, theyre the same thing)
[03:28] <barslow> in that case im an expert in CLI
[03:28] <MrWizeGuy1983> ok Soulwarp but can anyone tell me why? maybe flannel knows?
[03:28] <MalMen> i am here with some trooble, my SO only give sound in some programs, like Firefox, (and on CS1.6 with wine), but o
[03:28] <mrgreen> hello dudes.
[03:28] <unavailable>  i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:28] <MalMen> n VLC for example that no works :\
[03:28] <barslow> i'm arguably the best CLI operator in NY
[03:28] <mrgreen> I need some technical help with my ubuntu..
[03:28] <barslow> what am i saying arguably, im the best
[03:28] <joseph_> What section do I look under for themes on Gnome look for the last Ubuntu version??
[03:28] <Scunizi> MrWizeGuy1983: short version.. it sets up the graphical environment correctly
[03:28] <khin> hey i have a question, is there any way to make my terminals remember what the last directory i used was and open there by default
[03:29] <MrWizeGuy1983> Scunizi, good enough, thanks
[03:29] <Ultraputz> anyone have any experience with getting /dev/x10 (for home automation controllers) working under hardy?
[03:29] <Gigadelic_IIDX> yo does anyone have probs at the login screen with the font being huge?
[03:29] <spoon_man> well that's pretty cool, barslow -- I really dig the CLI myself; it kicks the ass of anything you could do in Windows
[03:29] <Ultraputz> /whois ultraputz
[03:29] <Ultraputz> oops
[03:29] <mrgreen> my file system is showing 293MB free of 19GB but when I select all files and show properties it's showing me only 6G used.. anybody ever had this problem?
[03:29] <tin> khin: you could add a little magic to .bash_logout and .bash_profile if you use bash
[03:29] <unavailable>  i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:30] <barslow> spoon_man: i was being sarcastic, im a linux moron
[03:30] <spoon_man> oh
[03:30] <pccc> How do I boot with "all_generic_ide"? I assume this is a boot option, but where/how do I set it?
[03:30] <Gigadelic_IIDX> anyone?
[03:30] <FAJALOU> Scunizi: do you have any idea?  i am looking in dansguardian.conf, but i don't see anything about it.  update, i am now able to connect to msn but it takes about 5 minutes, last time it took like 30 seconds...
[03:30] <spoon_man> mrgreen, you have less than 300MB of free space?
[03:30] <Soulwarp> MrWizeGuy1983: they both work but i think gksudo is less verbose
[03:31] <M4rotku> hello, can anyone tell me how to convert mp3's to wma's?
[03:31] <Scunizi> FAJALOU: as I remember it's not in the conf file but a setting when you run dansguardian.. in the gui
[03:31] <NetEcho_> Has anyone released a Redirected Direct Rendering patch to fix some of the OpenGL issues with Ubuntu/Composite Managers?
[03:31] <joseph_> What section do I look under for themes on Gnome look for the last Ubuntu version??
[03:31] <mrgreen> spoon_man: yes
[03:31] <MalMen> my PC only give sound in some software, for example Firefox, in another not give, for example VLC, any sugestion ?
[03:31] <FAJALOU> Scunizi: as sad as this sounds, i do now know how to access the gui,,, i have tried dansguardian in run program, but nothing shows up...
[03:31] <cpk1> mrgreen: are you selecting everything from /?
[03:32] <tofaffy> How do I change the speed at which my gnome panels hide? I know its in gconf-editor, but where in that is it?
[03:32] <spoon_man> mrgreen, you may want to consider clearing some things out, like "apt-get autoclean"
[03:32] <unavailable>  i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:32] <webcamwonder> joseph_: System -> Preferences -> Appearence
[03:32] <Scunizi> FAJALOU: open a terminal and type sudo dansguardian and see if that does it.. you might have to read some more on their site.
[03:32] <mrgreen> spoon_man: I will try that.
[03:32] <mrgreen> one sec.
[03:32] <Soulwarp> M4rotku: i think ffmpeg handles audio converting very well
[03:33] <joseph_> What section do I look under for themes on Gnome look for the last Ubuntu version?
[03:33] <FAJALOU> Scunizi: it says it's already running, i couldn't find anything on their site, but i will look again
[03:33] <unavailable> i just want my icons back
[03:33] <Gigadelic_IIDX> is there a way to fix the font side at the login screen
[03:33] <Scunizi> FAJALOU: have you looked in all the menus?
[03:33] <FAJALOU> i will look again,
[03:33] <joseph_> What are themes called or Ubuntu?
[03:33] <joseph_> for*
[03:34] <webcamwonder> joseph_: look for GTK 2.x themes
[03:34] <joseph_> Thanks.
[03:34] <unavailable> i just want my icons back
[03:34] <Gigadelic_IIDX> anyone?
[03:34] <mrgreen> spoon_man: that freed up a little.. but I think ubuntu messed up my partition table or something.
[03:34] <Scunizi> FAJALOU: or you can "sudo updatedb" then when it's done "locate dansg" to get all the referances of dansguardian and from that you might be able to decypher what to use
[03:34] <M4rotku> Soulwarp:  is ffmpeg a program, and if so, how would i install it?
[03:34] <mrgreen> spoon_man: why it's saying 6GB used of 19GB but then it's showing 300MB free?
[03:35] <webcamwonder> !info ffmpeg
[03:35] <FAJALOU> Scunizi:  ok
[03:35] <cpk1> mrgreen: what does "df -h" say?
[03:35] <spoon_man> mrgreen well, could be many reasons; one is hidden files not reporting their presence or size
[03:35] <tc111> joseph_: i give up, what section do you look under for themes on Gnome look for the last Ubuntu version?
[03:36] <Reformer81> Trying to play a DVD in Hardy.  VLC and Totem both crash (totem gives many errors:  libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1575)  What gives?
[03:36] <spoon_man> mrgreen another reason could be an operating system installed on another partition
[03:36] <webcamwonder> tclll: Look for GTK 2.x themes, they should be compatible with your GNOME
[03:36] <unavailable>  i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:36] <mrgreen> cpk1: / is showing 18GB with 17G used..
[03:36] <spoon_man> mrgreen, I'm not familiar enough with linux to answer that question with confidence, sorry
[03:37] <mrgreen> thanks anyways spoon_man.
[03:37] <xbj9000> what's the problem mrgreen?
[03:37] <cpk1> mrgreen: just guessing from what you said, you probably checked how much space your user directory was using without checking the root directory
[03:37] <mrgreen> xbj9000: ubuntu showing wrong Used on my disk..
[03:38] <unavailable> mr green nice how someone dropped it, then someone else picked it up right away, kinda like "please hold one moment"...  "hello how may i help you"
[03:38] <MalMen> my PC only give sound in some software, for example Firefox, in another not give, for example VLC, any sugestion ?
[03:38] <mrgreen> xbj900: I have only about 7GB used.. but the used is showing 17GB of 18GB
[03:38] <tc111> webcamwonder: just pokin' at joseph_ as i had already asked him, 'for which app' back at 10:16pm ET...
[03:38] <webcamwonder> tclll: ok
[03:38] <cpk1> mrgreen: if you want a full print of everything you can do "cd /" and then "du -h" but prepared it might take a while (over a minute)
[03:39] <Soulwarp> unavailable: we are volunteers who spend our time in this channel to help others. we don't know all the answers :)
[03:39] <unavailable> rofl at "du -h" duh?
[03:39] <pccc> Quick boot option question: too add all_generic_ide to my boot options, do I just postpend it to the boot options string? ("... -- all_generic_ide")?
[03:39] <mrgreen> cpk1: I went into / and selected all folders except /media and did properties..which gave me 6.5GB total.
[03:39] <unavailable> soulwarp i was merely commenting on how that was kinda like being transferred in the tech dept.
[03:39] <unavailable>  i got compiz-fusion to finally draw different backgrounds for each of my workspaces, by disabling the "draw desktop" option in nautilus,  now how do i go about showing ONLY the icons?
[03:39] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Do you have any other paritions mounted?
[03:40] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Or not mounted even
[03:40] <mrgreen> cpk1: doing du -h on / now..
[03:40] <cpk1> mrgreen: actually you probably need to do "sudo du -h" and I always trust console more the the gui
[03:40] <blah569> What is the best application for Ubuntu that I can use to record audio + video with a webcam?  I know that my Webcam works with Ubuntu, I just need an application that can record audio + video.
[03:40] <chrisbdaemon> hey, how would i mount a usb hard drive on ubuntu server?
[03:40] <webcamwonder> !poll | blah569
[03:40] <chrisbdaemon> from commandline
[03:40] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: yes I have other partions..
[03:40] <Flik> I have reloaded ubuntu - gone through the setup - and it won't load with the username and password i gave it.  after HOURS of @!#$ing with it I'm about to reload XP because I know it works.  Anyone have any suggestioins????
[03:40] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: If you automount them, they are placed under /media/
[03:40] <blah569> Well, what is a good application that I can use?
[03:40] <mrgreen> even my big 500GB drive is showing 15GB free when only about 260GB is used.
[03:41] <webcamwonder> !poll | blah569
[03:41] <unavailable> Flik you lowercase the login name?
[03:41] <Flik> yep
[03:41] <cpk1> mrgreen: well you wouldnt get to use all 500gB anyways due to partitioning and whatnot
[03:41] <kreig> Does somebody knows how to deactivate the boot detection for a specific device?
[03:41] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: I know they are under /media. I didn't select /media when I did... ohhh wow.. so du -h from root will scan /media too.. eeeeee..
[03:41] <blah569> Is there an application that I can use to record audio + video from a Webcam?  I know that my Webcam works with Ubuntu.
[03:41] <m-c> Flik: Have you tried going to a service console?
[03:41] <NetEcho_> For some reason every time I try to install a package it trys to install some java-doc package that always fails and requires me to bypass it every time, doesn't even matter if the package needs java or not
[03:41] <webcamwonder> mrgeen: Yes it does...
[03:42] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Check out the Disk Analyzer Tool
[03:42] <mrgreen> cpk1: The partition actually shows up as 460GB.
[03:42] <Flik> I haven't tried the service console
[03:42] <unavailable> flik ctrl+alt+f1-6
[03:42] <m-c> Flik: Just to try, do ctrl-alt-f1 and try to login there
[03:42] <mrgreen> cpk1: what am i looking for with du -h.. it's finished.
[03:42] <m-c> ctrl-alt-f7 to get back again
[03:42] <cpk1> mrgreen: at the end it tells you total used
[03:43] <Flik> it froze
[03:43] <cpk1> mrgreen: and if you console buffer is big enough you can look through everything
[03:43] <m-c> flik - froze?  what do you mean?
[03:43] <unavailable> flik it should give you a prompt
[03:43] <mrgreen> can i run du-h again and skip /media cpk1?
[03:43] <Flik> mouse won't work  keyboard won't work
[03:43] <Flik> rebooted
[03:43] <kelvin_> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 and configured the Bluetooth using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4910397 but for some reason even when it is detected it don't wanna work, anybody can help?
[03:43] <m-c> flik - that's not good - that's basic stuff
[03:44] <cpk1> mrgreen: yes, let me check the man
[03:44] <phaedral> So I'm following along the macbook pro suggestion on the ubuntu help site, everything works great until I reboot
[03:44] <blah569> Is there an application that I can use to record audio + video from a Webcam?  I know that my Webcam works with Ubuntu.
[03:44] <phaedral> now the system can't detect my card or monitor and I'm stuck in 800x600
[03:44] <phaedral> wtf?
[03:44] <unavailable> flik when it hits the ubuntu screen press ctrl+alt+f1 and look for red fails
[03:44] <m-c> kelvin_: did you check the error log?
[03:44] <mrgreen> cpk1: it shows 540GB.. but that's with my 120GB external USB, 500GB external USB, 31GB NTFS drive, and system partition which is 19GB.
[03:44] <phaedral> am I gonna have to reinstall from scratch to undo this?
[03:44] <kelvin_> m-c: I don't know how to do that
[03:44] <IdleOne> !fixres | phaedra
[03:44] <phaedral> and then reboot after each step on the help guide?
[03:45] <FAJALOU> Scunizi: can you send me your /etc/firehol/firehol.conf
[03:45] <m-c> kelvin_: read the end of /var/log/syslog
[03:45] <Flik> it won't boot now.  blinking red light under power button
[03:45] <unavailable> hard reset
[03:45] <Flik> i think i killed it
[03:45] <unavailable> do a hard reset
[03:45] <unavailable> pull the plug
[03:46] <esac> how do i stop a module from being loaded at boot ?
[03:46] <blah569> Is there an application that I can use to record audio + video from a Webcam?  I know that my Webcam works with Ubuntu.
[03:46] <unavailable> flik does your post show?
[03:46] <CWii> esac: oh!
[03:46] <willy> hi
[03:46] <patbam> hi, how can i check if there is a new version of vlc? i've heard there's one with better subtitle support...
[03:46] <cpk1> mrgreen: I THINK du --exclude='*media' that will exclude anything that ends with media
[03:46] <CWii> I can help :D
[03:46] <tech0007> esac: add it to blacklist
[03:46] <m-c> hi willy
[03:46] <mrgreen> cpk1: damn! I am trying to install VMWare and can't because of this disk-space crap..i have only 371MB free.. heheh
[03:46] <Soulwarp> blah569: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[03:46] <CWii> Aw, beaten :(
[03:46] <mrgreen> cpk1: i'll give the exclude a try.
[03:46] <blah569> I have looked at that link
[03:46] <FAJALOU> Scunizi: can you send me your /etc/firehol/firehol.conf
[03:46] <kreig> Does somebody knows how to deactivate automatic hardware detection at boot time for a specific device?
[03:47] <m-c> patbam: The latest release will be sent to your desktop through the update manager
[03:47] <Flik> I'm not sure what you mean by a post
[03:47] <tc111> Flik: in order to attempt a cleaner shutdown, remember this combo: alt-prntscrn + R, +I, +E, +S, +U, +B (2 - 3 secs between key-presses)... this steals the kbd back from x, flushes waiting writes, sets filesystems to ro, couple of other things, then reboots
[03:47] <blah569> Thanks though, I shall look again.
[03:47] <willy> help, my external HDD cannot be detected by ubuntu 8.04
[03:47] <unavailable> flik the boot text  (power on self test)  shows your hdd keyboard mouse etc
[03:47] <willy> when i plug it in nothing happens
[03:47] <tech0007> willy: is that a usb or sata/ide?
[03:47] <cpk1> mrgreen: if the 19gig partition is only used by / (not /home) then you should have plenty of space
[03:47] <wols> tc111: I expect my OS to do that for my by default. if it doesn't it's broken
[03:47] <afallenhope> anyone know where the aliasa are stored? like if I type alias maillog="tail -f /var/mail/mail.log" I can do that.. but it removes whhen I close the command window
[03:47] <willy> usb external
[03:47] <m-c> tc111: wow - quite a trick
[03:47] <Soulwarp> willy: does it show up in your places tab?
[03:47] <patbam> m-c: okay. thanks
[03:48] <willy> nope
[03:48] <willy> it doesn't
[03:48] <Soulwarp> willy: oh usb
[03:48] <Flik> ya it show
[03:48] <tech0007> willy: 'lsusb' can u see it
[03:48] <unavailable> ok...
[03:48] <willy> not even on that lsusb
[03:48] <mrgreen> cpk1: /home is on the 19GB.
[03:48] <unavailable> where from ther
[03:48] <willy> it only shows the mouse
[03:48] <kelvin_> m-c:  It is taking a long that file is big
[03:48] <chrisbdaemon> anyone know what /dev file an external usb hdd would be on?
[03:48] <unavailable> flik does it hit the grub after that??
[03:48] <tech0007> willy: tried other ports?
[03:48] <willy> yeah
[03:48] <tc111> wols: not when your gui is completely locked (unfortunately similar to a BSOD in winbloz but without the loss of data)
[03:48] <willy> same problem
[03:48] <wols> mrgreen: did you run du as user or as root?
[03:48] <m-c> kelvin_: lots of errors?
[03:48] <willy> it works fine on windows
[03:49] <esac> tech0007: what is blacklist ?
[03:49] <m-c> kelvin_: it should be pretty short!
[03:49] <willy> and it used to work fine on 7.10
[03:49] <cpk1> mrgreen: might be easier to check the space in your /home and trim from there
[03:49] <m-c> !enter |willy
[03:49] <kelvin_> m-c:  gedit is Frezee because the file is big
[03:49] <mrgreen> wols: i did as user.. and got permission denied on some.. so i am running as sudo..
[03:49] <willy> ok sorry
[03:49] <kelvin_> m-c: I can't see it
[03:49] <wols> tc111: another thing: it's not supposed to be locked. I have an OS that works, if it doesn't buggy OS again. and NO one will remember this insane key combo when one needs it
[03:49] <m-c> kelvin_: yikes.  Use the command line.  Use the tail command to get the last 10 lines
[03:49] <tech0007> esac: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:49] <mrgreen> wols: and cpk1 I did with sudo and it's showing me 17GB used..
[03:49] <willy> also, I tried to connect an external media card reader, and it doesn't work either
[03:49] <chut> hey people
[03:49] <unavailable> flik any luck?
[03:49] <esac> tech0007, thanks
[03:50] <mrgreen> this is weird.
[03:50] <chut> can i ask you an off topic question
[03:50] <afallenhope> anyone know where the aliasa are stored? like if I type alias maillog="tail -f /var/mail/mail.log" I can do that.. but it removes whhen I close the command window
[03:50] <IdleOne> chut #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:50] <tech0007> willy: reboot while ur usb hdd is connected, check 'dmesg' output
[03:50] <chut> is it possible to login gmail with your own domain name?
[03:50] <mrgreen> where am I using the 17GB? Bluddy hell.
[03:50] <wols> afallenhope: bash config files set it up
[03:50] <cpk1> mrgreen: ls -a
[03:50] <Flik> still trying
[03:50] <tech0007> !language | mrgreen
[03:50] <KRaZy_WaKa> attempting a dual-boot with 2 HDDs Ubuntu Hardy on HDD1 and win XP Home to be installed on HDD2
[03:50] <wols> chut: this is OT
[03:50] <willy> ok, brb then
[03:50] <Flik> now when i reboot i get a bunch of options
[03:50] <chut> what is OT?
[03:50] <mrgreen> sorry ubottu
[03:50] <IdleOne> chut, that would be a better question for google. check and see the gmail FAQ
[03:51] <wols> chut: your question. ask someone else
[03:51] <chrisbdaemon> anyone?
[03:51] <mrgreen> cpk1: this never happened to me until i installed Hardy..
[03:51] <some_dude> hi
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> !sorry | chut
[03:51] <unavailable> flik ok, if you happen to get as far as the ubuntu screen (where it loads the os before login)  hit ctrl+alt+F1 and look for red Fail's
[03:51] <tc111> wols: your choice... just a friendly tip to prevent data loss... do as you wish. if you've got an ssh server running on the unresponsive box, you can ssh over a reboot from there too... just promoting preparedness... never been a reactive type person, rather be proactive.
[03:51] <Flik> recovery mode, memtest86+ and a few others
[03:51] <IdleOne> lmao IndyGunFreak
[03:51] <mrgreen> cpk1: why am I running ls -a? heheh
[03:51] <unavailable> flik  choose the top one
[03:51] <Flik> I
[03:51] <chut> ehhe
[03:51] <chrisbdaemon> screw this
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> IdleOne: ")
[03:51] <afallenhope> wols,  and where's that located
[03:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> cant find anything to guide me with installing win after ubuntu, and i am having problems getting winxp to install on HDD2, can anyone help me?
[03:52] <some_dude> and my dvd's won't play under hardy, I've added libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3, and some ubuntu-restricted-extras, but I get the same error
[03:52] <chut> i ask in here because this channel is huge
[03:52] <wols> afallenhope: ~ and /etc
[03:52] <unavailable> flik thats your grub
[03:52] <tech0007> !dualboot | KRaZy_WaKa
[03:52] <IdleOne> !dualboot | KRaZy_WaKa
[03:52] <afallenhope> wols, you mean the .bashrc?
[03:52] <mrgreen> cpk1: how to do you clear apt-get cache?
[03:52] <tc111> wols: after 25 years, old habits die very hard when they work
[03:52] <wols> afallenhope: that's only one of the many files
[03:52] <unavailable> mrgreen apt-get --help
[03:52] <IdleOne> mrgreen, sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:52] <Flannel> mrgreen: apt-get clean
[03:52] <c1|freaky> how do I back up a gpg-key-pair ive generated using gpg --gen-key ? i know it's ID but don't know how to export or whatever you do with it to back it up oO
[03:53] <Soulwarp> mrgreen: i think it's sudo apt-get clean
[03:53] <M4rotku> does anyone know how to convert mp3 files to wma?  the last app didn't have a GUI
[03:53] <willy> hey I'm back, I rebooted with the external USB hdd connected and it didn't work
[03:53] <Flik> the top one puts me back to the sign in that reboots
[03:53] <unavailable> flik it autoreboots?
[03:53] <cpk1> mrgreen: I think sudo aptitude clean
[03:53] <cyphase> doesn't the intel 2200BG work natively in linux?
[03:53] <tech0007> willy: 'dmesg | grep sdX'   use sdb if thats your first usb hdd
[03:53] <wols> cyphase: it does. needs non free firmware however
[03:54] <Flik> it plays it's little drum music the monitor flashes and back to the sign in
[03:54] <willy> this is the only usb hdd i have
[03:54] <willy> should I do that?
[03:54] <tech0007> willy: yes
[03:54] <unavailable> flik ok that means sign in is ready
[03:54] <unavailable> flik try your login
[03:54] <cpk1> mrgreen: seriously though, maybe use ls -a in your home directory to look for hidden files/folders
[03:54] <willy> well I don't know what's the sd# number of that disk
[03:54] <cyphase> wols: right, thanks
[03:54] <wols> willy: dmesg will tell you
[03:54] <willy> how can I know that?
[03:55] <tech0007> willy: 'dmesg | grep sdb'
[03:55] <unavailable> flik if that dont work try ctrl+alt+F1 and login there
[03:55] <wols> tech0007: sdb is not certain
[03:55] <wols> dev/sd is
[03:55] <willy> I have 2 internal IDE HDD
[03:55] <willy> and the external usb hdd
[03:55] <some_dude> is this an issue with hardy ?
[03:56] <tech0007> wols: i know, its worth the shot
[03:56] <Baxtor> Hey guys, ive just baught myself a new HDD, and wanting to use Gparted (or similar ) to create partitions and give them a label (eg, storage, swap, linux), can anyone suggest a way to go about this
[03:56] <Flik> I hit ctrl+alt+f1 and hae several different boot options
[03:56] <wols> Baxtor: run gparted and do it
[03:56] <mrgreen> cpk1: I will do the ls -a thing..
[03:56] <unavailable> flik when you hit ctrl+alt+f1 your supposed to be at the login screen
[03:56] <willy> the dmesg | grep sdb shows info for the internal HDD
[03:56] <Baxtor> will Gparted allow me to label the partitions? ive heard conflicting views on this
[03:57] <unavailable> flik and its supposed to take you to console login
[03:57] <wols> Flik: when you normally boot the PC will do a lot of work and then stays at a picture right? or does it reboot after some time on its own?
[03:57] <tc111> willy: "sudo fdisk -l" from a terminal should tell you which drive you need
[03:57] <xbj9000> mrgreen I don't know what your partition scheme is like, but I once had a problem with a surprisingly large log file filling up my system and crashing it
[03:57] <m-c> Anyone here trying Ubuntu for the first time?
[03:57] <tech0007> willy: ok 'dmesg > dmesg.out'  then paste.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <Flik> i don't get the console login
[03:57] <xbj9000> I dunno if that's any help..
[03:57] <wols> !anyone > m-c
[03:57] <cpk1> mrgreen: there will be hidden files/folders, the hard part will be figuring out which ones are unneeded (might have some useless ones if you upgraded to hardy)
[03:57] <mrgreen> cpk1: I noticed the storage problem came up whenever I do move to trash..
[03:57] <willy> doesn't it damage the info on the disk?
[03:57] <cpk1> mrgreen: empty your trash?
[03:57] <willy> the info i have there is important
[03:57] <wols> Flik: what do you see. tell us. EXACTLY what is written there
[03:57] <wols> willy: it doesn't
[03:57] <willy> ok
[03:57] <cpk1> I always delete stuff instead of trashing it
[03:58] <tech0007> willy: nope
[03:58] <esac> when i do "apt-get remove rdesktop" it says it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop. this scares me .. is this a bad thing ?
[03:58] <Flik> I get a screen with the ubuntu logo and a username dialog box
[03:58] <wols> esac: not a bad thing. that's a meta package
[03:58] <mrgreen> xbj9000: thanks.. for the advice.. i event checked /tmp to see if there are any temps.. no luck..
[03:58] <IdleOne> esac, you can remove ubuntu-desktop safely
[03:58] <unavailable> flik now press ctrl+alt+F1
[03:58] <xbj9000> esac I think you can just turn around and re-install ubuntu-desktop, I think
[03:58] <esac> great, thanks
[03:58] <tc111> Baxtor: no, check here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[03:58] <willy> well i did that fdisk -l and it shows nothing but the internal drives
[03:58] <wols> m-c: stop messaging people and NO it'S not your real question, your real question comes if someone says "yes"
[03:58] <EagleScreen> #kubuntu-es
[03:58] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Did you take a look at the Disk Analyzer Tool?
[03:58] <willy> 2 drives of 40gb each
[03:58] <mrgreen> xbj9000: also why would it mess up on the 500GB drive too? Not only on the system partition.. weird man.. weird.
[03:59] <EagleScreen> #kubuntu-kde4
[03:59] <IdleOne> esac, but you may want to re-install it later
[03:59] <Baxtor> Thank you
[03:59] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: no I didn't install it yet..le'me do that now.
[03:59] <EagleScreen> #kubuntu-devel
[03:59] <wols> willy: plug in the usb hdd and then run "lsusb" and "dmesg". pastebin the output of both commands
[03:59] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Are you on hardy?
[03:59] <m-c> wols: no - actually - on both thank you.
[03:59] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: yes
[03:59] <unavailable> flik are you by chance on a laptop?
[03:59] <willy> how should I paste it?
[03:59] <wols> !paste > willy
[03:59] <tech0007> !paste | willy
[03:59] <Flik> I got the console by it tells me the login is incorrect
[03:59] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: App-> Acc -> Disk Usage Aalyzer
[03:59] <kelvin_> m-c: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23002/
[04:00] <Flik> no a desk top
[04:00] <unavailable> ok
[04:00] <EagleScreen> #ubuntu-es
[04:00] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: ok.. done.
[04:00] <tc111> willy: wols is on the right track then, your machine isn't recognizing its presence...
[04:00] <wols> EagleScreen: use /join  !!!
[04:00] <noobish42> is there anyway to control where items that are saved appear on the desktop?
[04:00] <tech0007> tc111: but it works with the other OS though
[04:00] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: And you wish to scan it for certain folders right?
[04:00] <tc111> willy: does the drive work on other machines and if so, what OS
[04:00] <EagleScreen> thanks wols
[04:00] <wols> noobish42: depends on the program saving
[04:00] <unavailable> wols?  his console login is sayin wrong login too
[04:01] <noobish42> other then creating a folder and placing it is there
[04:01] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: shouldn't Disk Usage Analyser do the same as "du -h" ???
[04:01] <tc111> tech0007: beat me to it...
[04:01] <m-c> kelvin_: Okay - well - it does not appear the device is paired.
[04:01] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Should... never hurts to try
[04:01] <Soulwarp> noobish42: you can control it through your browser settings
[04:01] <willy> ok here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23003/
[04:01] <wols> unavailable: then he gotta find out his proper password. that's not something we can help him. if he can't he needs to reset it
[04:01] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: I want to scan the entire system to see what's eating up so much space..
[04:01] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Hit the scan filesystem
[04:01] <unavailable> wols and how can he go about doing that without being able to login
[04:01] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: I am scanning now.. scanning done.. gonna check it out now.
[04:01] <Flik> I just set the password 15 minutes ago
[04:01] <wols> unavailable: livecd
[04:01] <tech0007> willy: paste the dmesg also
[04:01] <m-c> mrgreen: Applications -> Accessories -> Disk Usage
[04:02] <noobish42> i currently have my desktop setup so that my widgets are on the left side of my screen...when I save things to the desktop they automatically get saved to the left side of the desktop
[04:02] <noobish42> under my widgets
[04:02] <kelvin_> m-c: That is wierd because if I open the Bluetooth icon I can see it paired and the audio service is running
[04:02] <mrgreen> m-c: thanks.. I am doing that now.. and checking to see what's going on.
[04:02] <m-c> kelvin_: Is it paired or just connected?  Paired would have a lock icon
[04:02] <Soulwarp> noobish42: save them to your home folder then
[04:02] <b0xxy> hack the mainframe, access the gibson and take down the kernal
[04:02] <wols> Flik: then you entered it wrong either now or then
[04:02] <willy> ok, here are both: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23004/
[04:03] <w1ll> After updating an old breezy server to hardry I get "Setting up libuuid1 (1.40.8-2ubuntu2) ...
[04:03] <w1ll> groupadd: invalid option -- K" after issuing "apt-get dist-upgrade". I have to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file to reflect hardy, then apt-get update. Every thing works fine till I type apt-get dist-upgrade. =\
[04:03] <noobish42> that was my other option...i just wanted to know if there was a way to auto right align the desktop
[04:03] <kelvin_> m-c: it it said it is bonded and have key icon beside the name of the headset
[04:03] <CWii> b0xxy: Uh, huh. I see what you're doing there.
[04:03] <b0xxy> yeh im elite
[04:03] <b0xxy> ;)
[04:03] <unavailable> flik case changes and/or misspelled words could be the case...
[04:03] <CWii> :)
[04:03] <tech0007> willy: its being detected but its getting some error
[04:04] <wols> w1ll: full output of your apt-get run please
[04:04] <unavailable> flik but considering youve reinstalled how many times?>
[04:04] <willy> what error?
[04:04] <tech0007> willy: do u dualboot or the other OS is on a different machine?
[04:04] <noobish42> thanks anyway
[04:04] <Flik> i wish that were the case.  when i put in an incorrect password it says "incorrect login" when i put in the correct user/password it plays the drums, flashes the monitor and back to sign in
[04:04] <Flik> reloaded once
[04:04] <tech0007> willy: [  552.349459] usb 4-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[04:04] <w1ll> wols I'll post it to a pastbin brb
[04:04] <willy> this computer has windows xp and ubuntu on the same system
[04:04] <unavailable> flik aah
[04:04] <m-c> kelvin_: key does not mean paired
[04:04] <wols> Flik: on the console (ctrl+alt+f1) it doesn't do this. you get a prompt there
[04:04] <Flannel> Flik: Try installing with teh alternate CD
[04:05] <willy> it's a dual boot system
[04:05] <wols> Flik: so not being able to login there means you enter the wrong password
[04:05] <some_dude> ugh, why is this stupid dvd not working ?
[04:05] <kelvin_> m-c: well I don't migh you help :(?
[04:05] <willy> I tried modprobe ehci_hcd and didn't work either
[04:05] <Flik> what is the alternate CD?
[04:05] <Soulwarp> noobish42: that's a good question, let me look into that
[04:05] <webcamwonder> !codecs
[04:05] <m-c> kelvin_: I do not know this off the top of my head - I am actually trying it myself
[04:05] <xbj9000> some_dude, problem with all CDs or just that one?
[04:05] <IdleOne> !alternate | Flik
[04:05] <xbj9000> DVDs I mean
[04:05] <w1ll> wols, http://pastebin.com/m32129242
[04:05] <some_dude> xbj9000: all, and I've added every lib I need to
[04:06] <tech0007> willy: did u disconnect the hdd from windows properly? dmesg has read errors on it
[04:06] <kelvin_> m-c: jeje ok no problem, I'm new with this stuff
[04:06] <wols> !breezy
[04:06] <tc111> willy, wols: similar to the error i got on my external when the ide to usb controller failed... put the drive in a new case and its fine.
[04:06] <noobish42> thanks
[04:07] <willy> I dont remember
[04:07] <unavailable> ok i got cube desktop to show different walls...   now how do i re-enable just the icons that disappeared when i had to disable draw desktop in nautilus???????
[04:07] <wols> w1ll: remove libuuid1 and install the package providing groupadd
[04:07] <some_dude> xbj9000:  I've add the restricted-extas, libdvdcss2, libdvdread3, w32codecs
[04:07] <Flannel> wols: you're going straight from breezy to hardy?  or with dapper in between?
[04:07] <tc111> willy, wols: worked intermittently under XP/Vista
[04:07] <alexandre> ae
[04:07] <w1ll> wols, ah ok
[04:07] <willy> maybe I have to connect it using windows and then go back to linux
[04:07] <noobish42> I have looked it up before, but have yet to find an answer for it
[04:07] <willy> unplugging it properly there
[04:07] <wols> Flannel: w1ll is. and yes I thought it was not supported
[04:07] <w1ll> thank you!
[04:07] <Flik> the image i burned was for the amd64
[04:07] <tech0007> willy: try it
[04:07] <xbj9000> that's odd, some-dude
[04:07] <mrgreen> this is sooo weird.. cpk1, xbj9000, webcamwonder my Disk Usage Analyzer is showing me 17GB used.. but it looks like only about 12GB is used when it show me files.. I will do a ls -a on my home to see if there's any other problem.
[04:07] <willy> ok I will
[04:07] <willy> thanks
[04:07] <willy> brb
[04:07] <w1ll> wols, I'm updating to 8.04 LTS
[04:08] <some_dude> xbj9000:  would it make a differnce that I want from Festy to Hardy ?
[04:08] <wols> mrgreen: HOW do you check how much is used? what command?
[04:08] <Flannel> w1ll: Straight from breezy?
[04:08] <w1ll> work doesn't like updating all time =\
[04:08] <xbj9000> I don't know, some_dude
[04:08] <unavailable> flik you can get the alternate 64 bit ed
[04:08] <wols> w1ll: sure but breezy to hardy is not supported
[04:08] <w1ll> Flannel, yes, even though I probably shouldn't
[04:08] <wols> w1ll: at least not going directly
[04:08] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Only a suggestion here, fsck your partitions?
[04:08] <unavailable> flik but using 64 bit you wont find as many appz.... i would go with 32 unless you have >= 4 gig ram
[04:08] <wols> Flik: how much memory do you have?
[04:08] <mrgreen> wols: du -h
[04:08] <w1ll> I was doing it breezy to dapper then using update-manager-core tools
[04:09] <Flannel> w1ll: you *should* go from breezy to dapper, and then dapper to hardy
[04:09] <wols> mrgreen: with sudo?
[04:09] <w1ll> I screwed up and got into a hurry
[04:09] <mrgreen> wols: yes
[04:09] <Flik> about half that
[04:09] <w1ll> that's what I get for tring to cheat I guess
[04:09] <Olof_> Hi, I have windows vista on my laptop. I have three partitions. Is it possible to install ubuntu on one?
[04:09] <wols> Olof_: yes
[04:09] <Flik> this is making my brain hurt
[04:09] <unavailable> flik then go with the 32 bit...
[04:09] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: I did touch fsck so often.. no help at all..
[04:09] <tech0007> !dualboot | Olof_
[04:09] <danbhfive> Flik: dont do 64bit, unless you really know what you are doing
[04:10] <Flik> I don't want to load it over the current install do i
[04:10] <wols> Flik: if you don't have 4GB RAM or more, 64bit doesn't really help unless you REALLY know what you are doing.
[04:10] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Might be missing out something somewhere
[04:10] <Flannel> w1ll: Alright, well, we'll see what we can do.  You need to install linux-generic, and make sure you have ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal installed.
[04:10] <m-c> kelvin_: Are you sure it is not paired with another device - like your phone?
[04:10] <unavailable> flik you wipe out the old with the new
[04:10] <Olof_> wols: is it ok to do it? i thought u couldnt because u have different hard disc formats
[04:10] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: plus fsck doesn't work on NTFS.
[04:10] <Flik> i really don't know what i'm doing
[04:10] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: dosfsck
[04:10] <wols> Olof_: it'S fine
[04:10] <SSDF> I have a easyyyy question or I hink its easy
[04:10] <CWii> Flik: But you're on the road to...something..
[04:10] <wols> webcamwonder: it doesn't
[04:10] <Megaqwerty>  !ask | SSDF
[04:10] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: this started to happen. when i move to trash.. goto trash.. see nothing at all..
[04:11] <wols> webcamwonder: especially not dosfsck (whatever that is)
[04:11] <kelvin_> m-c: now because it said the name of the device
[04:11] <unavailable> flik just when you hit the partition editor, (if you choose manual) just make sure "format" is checked
[04:11] <Flannel> Flik: Sometimes the desktop has issues with some stuff.  The alternate CD won't have these issues, and your install most likely wont either.
[04:11] <kelvin_> m-c: when I turned on the head set it asked me for a password to pair it
[04:11] <SSDF> when your entering in a key combo what is the "super" key, I'm in teh compiz config section
[04:11] <unavailable> kelvin bluetooth?
[04:11] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: I can't do a fsck on the partition that's mounted right?
[04:11] <kelvin_> unavailable: yes
[04:11] <m-c> kelvin_: It did not work, because it is not paired
[04:11] <Megaqwerty> mrgreen: check ~/.trash
[04:11] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: no, it will give you an error
[04:11] <wols> SSDF: alt or ctrl.
[04:11] <unavailable> kelvin
[04:12] <willy> hi, I'm back
[04:12] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: A warning before you continue
[04:12] <m-c> unavailable: yes
[04:12] <unavailable> kelvin_ either your pass for ubuntu or 0000
[04:12] <M4rotku> can any1 tell me how to convert mp3's to wma's?  I've tried Sound Konverter, but it doesn't make sense
[04:12] <wols> mrgreen: you can remount it ro and then you can fsck it
[04:12] <willy> I connected the usb hdd on windows and unplugged it properly, then tried it back on ubuntu and same problem
[04:12] <Flik> I'll get the 32 and format in the manual option on the editor.  Thanks for your help everyone.
[04:12] <kelvin_> unavailable: yes I already did that
[04:12] <webcamwonder> M4rotku: ffmpeg?
[04:12] <Megaqwerty> SSDF: the "super" key is the "windows" key
[04:12] <SSDF> alt or ctrl, doesn't matter which Wols
[04:12] <unavailable> well then
[04:12] <cdeszaq> From GRUB boot menu, how can I shut off the "pretty" progress bar and simple messages shown while booting?
[04:12] <m-c> unavailable kelvin_ or try 1234 - the config default
[04:12] <wols> Megaqwerty: doh. I'm stupid. thank you
[04:12] <kelvin_> unavailable: now it appear in bonded devices
[04:12] <Scunizi> M4rotku: arrgg.. why would you want to do that.. most players will play mp3 without issue..
[04:13] <bagelong> Did a safe graphics install.  Can't change the resolution now.
[04:13] <xbj9000> m4rotku:  Sound Converter
[04:13] <unavailable> a ha
[04:13] <Flannel> cdeszaq: yes, go to the entry you want, hit 'e' and then remove quiet and splash, then boot it
[04:13] <M4rotku> webcamwonder: when i installed that and tried to run it, it didn't have a gui and only ran in terminal
[04:13] <unavailable> kelvin_ it workin??
[04:13] <Megaqwerty> wols: no problem ;)
[04:13] <SSDF>  Ok, thanks for your help, magaqwerty
[04:13] <wols> bagelong: what videocard
[04:13] <kelvin_> unavailable: the problem if that I can't use it to hear music or with skype
[04:13] <webcamwonder> M4rotku, Yes it does
[04:13] <M4rotku> Scunizi, b/c wma files are smaller
[04:13] <webcamwonder> M4rotku, they are not
[04:13] <M4rotku> webcamwonder, how do i launch the gui then?
[04:13] <cdeszaq> Flannel: Thank you
[04:13] <bagelong> wols:  don't know.  let me check.
[04:13] <webcamwonder> M4rotku, ffmpeg is a command line tool
[04:13] <m-c> unavailable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23002/
[04:13] <unavailable> kelvin_ in skype you gotta change your settings (if it sees it)
[04:13] <wols> M4rotku: converting one lossy format to another makes it sound a LOT worse. you do not want to do that
[04:14] <M4rotku> wols: what would u recomend then if i only have a 2 gig player?
[04:14] <mrgreen> Megaqwerty: there's no .trash in my home directory.. even with hidden files turned on.
[04:14] <noobish42> can someone recommend a good network manager program for linux, other then the default. My network settings aren't being saved correctly and it always reverts my security back to wpa from wpa2
[04:14] <kelvin_> unavailable: yes I can see it, but I cant hear it
[04:14] <webcamwonder> M4rotku: The size of a file only depends on the codec being used and the bitrate ratio
[04:14] <webcamwonder> M4rotku: bitrate*
[04:14] <wols> M4rotku: encode from the CD directly to WMA. or buy WMA instead of MP3
[04:14] <kelvin_> unavailable: I used this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4910397
[04:14] <M4rotku> webcamwonder, but don't wma's run successfully at a lower rate?
[04:14] <SSDF> one more question, when you see those people with 4 desks where do you enable that, I only have a option of 2.
[04:14] <Megaqwerty> mrgreen: then I guess it's not the problem I was thinking of. Some programs still put stuff in .trash even though the real location of the trash has moved
[04:14] <M4rotku> wols: i already have the files on my comp
[04:14] <willy> my external hdd isn't recognized even after unplugging it properly from windows
[04:15] <webcamwonder> M4rotku: I run MP3s ~ 96 okishly as well
[04:15] <wols> M4rotku: then rerip them from the originals again
[04:15] <bagelong> wols:lspci output - Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[04:15] <some_dude> xbj9000: oh, I found something good
[04:15] <cdeszaq> Flannel: unfortunately, all that did was leave me with a non-responsive blinking cursor on a black screen, no hard drive activity, and seemingly no booting process at all
[04:15] <Soulwarp> noobish42: i looked online and there is a long rant about the same problem. it seems there is no way to customize gnome to align the desktop icons to automatically move right
[04:15] <kelvin_> unavailable: I don't understand the step 9
[04:15] <wols> bagelong: you need i810 or intel as a driver
[04:15] <webcamwonder> M4rotku: 128 kbps MP3 should be perfectly fine
[04:15] <M4rotku> wols: i don't have the originals for a couple hundred songs handy
[04:15] <xbj9000> what is it some_dude?
[04:15] <some_dude> http://pastebin.org/46238
[04:15] <bagelong> wols: can you help?
[04:15] <wols> M4rotku: then stay with mp3. it's a mobile player, not as if it had good sound quality to begin with
[04:15] <M4rotku> webcamwonder: but that will take up less space, i've heard that it would take up less on wma at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823941
[04:15] <noobish42> thanks a lot soul, it was worth a shot...hopefully it is something they will include in the future
[04:16] <wols> bagelong: I just did?
[04:16] <bagelong> wols: any more?
[04:16] <xbj9000> interesting some_dude
[04:16] <bagelong> wols:  in other words - noob here.
[04:16] <M4rotku> wols: but mp3 doesn't have much space, and i'm having to boot into vista to get the player working anyways
[04:16] <mrgreen> guys.. just wanna say thanks a lot for helping me out..but I am having no luck... there are some hidden files somewhere.. and even using sudo can't pick them up.
[04:16] <mrgreen> it has something to do with the trash though.
[04:17] <tc111> willy: unplug your drive, try this from a terminal "sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd" then plug your drive in again... repost you dmesg output
[04:17] <m-c> mrgreen: have ytou checked your trash?
[04:17] <Scunizi> M4rotku: wma is Microsofts attempt at competing with mp3 and other formats..... the size is negligible
[04:17] <Soulwarp> noobish42: here is a reference of a post similar to your topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192446
[04:17] <mrgreen> m-c: there's nothing in trash.. absolutely nothing.
[04:17] <some_dude> xbj9000: now I have a place to start looking for the problem
[04:17] <wols> bagelong: don't use safe graphics mode and show us the logfile Xorg.0.log of that in a pastebin
[04:17] <Megaqwerty> mrgreen:  if you know the filename try doing: sudo locate -u  and then running locate filename
[04:17] <M4rotku> Scunizi, my player's instructionbook said that it would fit 2x the number of songs with WMA due to software on the player
[04:17] <xbj9000> M4rotku try soundconverter
[04:18] <adred> hi, how do i save a script into a sh file? help pls
[04:18] <M4rotku> xbj9000, kk
[04:18] <mrgreen> Megaqwerty: what filename? heheh I deleted lots of stuff already.. I wouldn't know what files to look for.
[04:18] <bagelong> wols:  I couldn't get an install without safe graphics, so I am in it.  How do I get out of safe graphics?
[04:18] <Scunizi> M4rotku: then just recompress the mp3's to a lower bit rate
[04:18] <willy> oh my god! now it works tclll
[04:18] <willy> you're a genius!
[04:18] <Megaqwerty> adred: just make a file, paste the script in, and name it whatever.sh
[04:18] <m-c> mrgreen: okay, I have a dirty solution for you - go to directories from the terminal and type "du -k -s" - this will give you an idea how much space is used where.  process of elimination and you can find your files
[04:18] <wols> bagelong: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and then restart X
[04:18] <noobish42> thank you soul
[04:18] <xbj9000> m4rotku, yeah I wouldn't convert them if I were you
[04:18] <Megaqwerty> mrgreen: make a file, name it something, then delete it. Run those commands to find where it went
[04:19] <adred> Megaqwerty: thanks! :)
[04:19] <wols> bagelong: it will error maybe but it'S needed and we need to see the logfile of the error
[04:19] <M4rotku> how would i go about compressing them to a lower bit rate then?
[04:19] <Disco_jones> this a good channel for wifi help?
[04:19] <mrgreen> Megaqwerty: I will try that now..
[04:19] <unavailable> kelvin_ did it work after you used modprobe?
[04:19] <Disco_jones> or is there a better one
[04:19] <Megaqwerty> mrgreen: excellent
[04:19] <cdeszaq> how can I get Ubuntu (gutsy) desktop to display the same booting information as gutsy server? The trouble I am having is that the boot process on the desktop seems to get to about the point where it has to check the file systems, and then it hangs there for over a week with constant hard drive activity, and all I see on the screen is a solitary, non-responsive blinking cursor.
[04:19] <tc111> willy: its a bug... see here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/211760
[04:19] <wols> Disco_jones: are you running ubuntu?
[04:19] <webcamwonder> M4rotku: Personally, wma has given me worst quality of all (excluding some really bad formats)... I prefer to think LAME woul dbe the best
[04:19] <m-c> kelvin_: if it is any consolation -- I find the bluetooth not well implemented, compared to the rest of the ubuntu configurations
[04:20] <Disco_jones> wols: yes
[04:20] <bagelong> wols:  Asks "Use kernel framebuffer device interface?"
[04:20] <willy> tc111, will this be permanent, or should i modprobe eveytime I wanna use the HDD?
[04:20] <Disco_jones> wols: I had it working in gutsy, it quit when I upgraded
[04:20] <wols> cdeszaq: remove the "silent" in the menu.lst for your kernel (or maybe it was "quiet"
[04:20] <kelvin_> unavailable: it  don't work, i don't know how to do the step 9
[04:20] <wols> Disco_jones: wlan chip?
[04:20] <xbj9000> some_dude have you tried playing it with sudo?
[04:20] <unavailable> kelvin
[04:21] <cdeszaq> wols: Tried that, but then it displays nothing at all, and the hard drive activity is the same
[04:21] <unavailable> kelvin_ basically "sudo modprobe  snd_bt_sco"
[04:21] <xbj9000> some_dude possibly you have some permission set wrong preventing you from accessing the drive
[04:21] <noobish42> can someone recommend a good network manager program for linux, other then the default. My network settings aren't being saved correctly and it always reverts my security back to wpa from wpa2
[04:21] <lgc> nickrud, hi man!
[04:21] <unavailable> kelvin_ basically "sudo modprobe sco"
[04:21] <Disco_jones> bcm 4306? is that what you're looking for?
[04:21] <tc111> willy: you could blacklist the module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist but i don't know how that will affect other drives you may use
[04:21] <wols> cdeszaq: there might be bootsplash be used. dpkg -l |grep splash   what does it say?
[04:21] <Megaqwerty> noobish42: wifi-radar
[04:21] <wols> willy: blacklist ehci_hcd
[04:22] <wols> !Blacklist | willy
[04:22] <kelvin_> unavailable: and this: You might want to put these in /etc/modules
[04:22] <Megaqwerty> noobish42: I personally don't use it, but have heard good things about it
[04:22] <kelvin_> m-c: What do you mean?
[04:22] <wols> willy: it will mean your usb drives will then use only usb 1.1 speeds from then on
[04:22] <lgc> How do I copy my Windows install onto my VMWare virtual space?
[04:22] <tc111> wols: thanks for the tip kickoffs...
[04:22] <jack-desktop> whats everything i need to install to get emerald working
[04:23] <willy> That sucks!
[04:23] <m-c> kelvin_: most ubuntu tasks do not require you to perform this kind of 'black magic'
[04:23] <noobish42> Megaqwerty:  do u use the default?
[04:23] <bagelong> wols: did I lose you?  It is asking me if I want to use "kernel framebuffer device interface?
[04:23] <wols> lgc: ask ##windows. note: it will not work anyways, but this is OT here
[04:23] <xbj9000> noobish42 there is another network manager thing you can add to your panel with a right-click, but I don't know if it's what you are looking for
[04:23] <willy> I think I better downgrade to 7.10
[04:23] <wols> bagelong: say y
[04:23] <willy> this 8.04 disappointed me big time
[04:23] <Megaqwerty> noobish42: default what? default network manager? or wifi-radar?
[04:23] <wols> willy: you cannot downgrad unless you reinstall
[04:23] <lgc> wols, what do you mean it won't work?
[04:23] <willy> yes that's what I'll do
[04:23] <noobish42> Megaqwerty: network manager
[04:23] <cdeszaq> wols: There is a splash, but I still get nothing when I turn it off
[04:23] <aaron_> how do you install compizfusion themes?
[04:23] <Megaqwerty> noobish42: oh, yes, I do use the default
[04:23] <wols> lgc: I mean it won't work. but you are OT. this is #ubuntu and not ##windows
[04:24] <tc111> willy: are you fully up to date with your 8.04 patches?
[04:24] <lgc> wols, and else, why is it OT, anyway?
[04:24] <willy> yes
[04:24] <wols> lgc: because we don't do windows support
[04:24] <KRaZy_WaKa> is it possible to have 2 HDDs and both have MBR's?
[04:24] <m-c> aaron_ Have you seen the System -> Pref -> Appearance options?
[04:24] <willy> I clicked on the update notification
[04:24] <bagelong> wols:  no error.  Just brings up a new command line prompt.
[04:24] <wols> KRaZy_WaKa: every hdd has a MRB. evrey single one of them
[04:24] <noobish42> Megaqwerty:  ok I will look into radar, thank you
[04:24] <boaz> When setting up a network for linux computers, does one of the computers have to be a server? or can you also set up workgroups as with MS Windows?
[04:24] <mrgreen> Wohoooo!!!!!! You guys are bob..
[04:24] <wols> bagelong: when you now stop X and rerun X again there will be an error probably
[04:24] <tc111> willy: have you (gasp!) enabled proposed-updates in your software sources?
[04:24] <lgc> wols, mind you, "we" have VMWare on our Ubuntu repos.
[04:25] <wols> boaz: both can be desktops
[04:25] <Disco_jones> wifi?
[04:25] <tc111> willy: or backports
[04:25] <kelvin_> m-c: oh
[04:25] <wols> lgc: please ask your windows questions elsewhere
[04:25] <noobish42> xbj9000: that is the one I am currently using by default
[04:25] <wols> Disco_jones: I asked you something
[04:25] <mrgreen> I ran Disk Usage Analyser with gksudo.. and traced to see that /.local/share/trash and over 11GB of files..
[04:25] <willy> nope, I'll give a try
[04:25] <m-c> kelvin_: What is the result when you type the commands at step 9 ?
[04:25] <boaz> wols, is there any advantage to having one of them as a server?
[04:25] <Disco_jones> Disco_jones: bcm 4306? is that what you're looking for?\
[04:25] <wols> tc111: he'd need a kernel backport
[04:25] <Megaqwerty> lgc: http://mazimi.wordpress.com/2007/06/24/virtualization-of-an-existing-physical-partition-of-windows-within-linux/ from a quick google search
[04:25] <xbj9000> wolz his question was related to VMWare and therefore relevant
[04:26] <willy> but I have a question, from now and on I will be able to access my external HDD at USB 1.x speed?
[04:26] <willy> that'd be pretty slow
[04:26] <wols> Disco_jones: yes. you can use b43 present in the kernel now
[04:26] <mrgreen> m-c: I think that was the process of elimination... I recall deleting those said files from mythbuntu.. maybe some bug in mythbuntu..
[04:26] <wols> !wlan | Disco_jones
[04:26] <illriginal> Does anyone know if flash at the moment is incompatible with Firefox 3 (non beta)?
[04:26] <kelvin_> m-c: it seem to be ok because it dont' said any error, the problem is the line that said You might want to put these in /etc/modules
[04:26] <tc111> willy: *warning* enabling these will expose you to software that is not fully regression tested (proposed)
[04:26] <m-c> mrgreen: /.local ?  or ~/.local ?
[04:26] <bagelong> wols:  was "and then restart x" a part of the previous command line?  All I entered was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Do I need to go back an add the "and then restart x"
[04:26] <boaz> wols, we have six computers.
[04:26] <mrgreen> Thanks cpk1, webcamwonder, m-c, xbj9000...
[04:26] <Megaqwerty> illriginal: it works fine here
[04:26] <wols> bagelong: no. it's what you should do now
[04:26] <lgc> Megaqwerty, thanks.
[04:26] <xbj9000> noobish42, there is a different one available besides the one that appears there automatically
[04:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> well i am having problems getting windows to install on HDD2 because it needs to put files in the MBR on my ubuntu drive(HDD1) and i went to windows IRC channel and the best they could give me is install windows first
[04:26] <mrgreen> m-c: /.local... (root)..
[04:26] <wols> boaz: you can have a thousand. doesn't matter
[04:27] <Disco_jones> wols: well I did have it working perfectly, and it quit on upgrade and won't work with either fwcutter or ndiswrapper. I'll look at that
[04:27] <m-c> mrgreen: you've been logging in as root?
[04:27] <mrgreen> m-c: it was done by mythbuntu so I guess that's why it did it as root "/"
[04:27] <some_dude> xbj9000: looks like a hardware problem on my first dvd drive
[04:27] <DeepThought> wols, lgc, xbj9000, I agree it is a relevant question; support for ubuntu should not be an anti-windows war
[04:27] <danbhfive> KRaZy_WaKa: its ok if windows overwrites the mbr
[04:27] <noobish42> xbj9000: network monitor is the one that appears when you enter manual config
[04:27] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: did you find the oporblme?
[04:27] <bagelong> wols:  Sorry to be dense, but what is the complete command line?   just "restart x"
[04:27] <mrgreen> m-c: heheh no way man..
[04:27] <cdeszaq> how can I avoid a checkdisk being forced on system boot every so many days or boots?
[04:27] <danbhfive> KRaZy_WaKa: that can be fixed
[04:27] <wols> KRaZy_WaKa: they are right. you should install it first and then ubuntu.
[04:27] <boaz> wols, thanks.
[04:27] <noobish42> xbj9000: at least it did for me
[04:27] <wols> bagelong: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:27] <mrgreen> webcamwonder: I did for the main partition.. I will do the same for the 500GB partition and see if the same thing has happened.
[04:27] <Flannel> cdeszaq: its boots, and use tune2fs
[04:27] <noobish42> xbj9000: and that is the only one that appears in the right click menu
[04:27] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: look into autofsck
[04:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> i already have ubuntu on HDD1 and dont wanna reinstall ubuntu
[04:28] <m-c> mrgreen: yikes - well - I know nothing about mythbuntu, but I think something is up there.  you'll have to use the sudo command to clear it out, of course, but be careful removing files with sudo
[04:28] <illriginal> megaqwerty, what would you recommend in trying to figure out what could cause FireFox to shut down without warning? I've been facing a lot of issues with firefox lately, after freshly installing FF3
[04:28] <webcamwonder> mrgreen: Glad to be of assistance
[04:28] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck
[04:28] <angela> Anyone know the best way to remotely use an ubuntu desktop from my macbook pro?
[04:28] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: thanks
[04:28] <wols> KRaZy_WaKa: you have a windows problem. notthing we can do about how windows installs
[04:28] <Megaqwerty> illriginal: I'd try running it from the terminal
[04:28] <Jewfro-Macabbi> cdeszaq, in fstab, change the entry from ro 0  1, to ro 0   0
[04:28] <mrgreen> m-c: no worries.. I think I can handel those files.. heheh.. man you're the best.. hehe!
[04:28] <Megaqwerty> illriginal: the output in the terminal will probably say what's going on
[04:28] <Lucifer666> Windows :|
[04:28] <wols> angela: delete the partition, reinstall whatever the mac uses for a bootloader
[04:29] <m-c> kelvin_: so, just edit the file and add snd_bt_sco and sco to the end of the file, using "gksudo gedit /etc/modules"
[04:29] <Scunizi> KRaZy_WaKa: do you need windows for the games?
[04:29] <cdeszaq> Flannel: My ubuntu server just triggerd a forced check after 189 days...not boots
[04:29] <mrgreen> I just wanna thank all the cool dudes that helped me..
[04:29] <m-c> mrgreen: thanks!  good luck!
[04:29] <unavailable> ok...
[04:29] <Flannel> Jewfro-Macabbi, cdeszaq, no.  Use tune2fs.  Changing it will only change the fact that it doesn't get fscked when the fsck happens.
[04:29] <some_dude> KRaZy_WaKa: my linux box does windows games pretty good
[04:29] <angela> I just want to be able to log into peoples' ubuntu machines from my mac
[04:29] <bagelong> wols:  didn't realize that meant a system restart.  :-(  As I said - pretty noobish.
[04:29] <mrgreen> you guys deserve a biiig hug.. this thing been bugging me over 1 month now. hehe
[04:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Flannel, gotcha
[04:29] <Flannel> cdeszaq: Hmm, yes.  There is a time based one too.  tune2fs deals will all of that
[04:29] <mrgreen> good night dudes.
[04:29] <wols> bagelong: X restart is NOT a system restart
[04:29] <aaron_> how do I make xchat show a list of users in this channel on the right side of my screen?
[04:29] <Scunizi> KRaZy_WaKa: if you don't need it for the games then you might consider loading Windows in a Virtual Machine like VMWare server.
[04:30] <Megaqwerty> KRaZy_WaKa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:30] <Soulwarp> mrgreen: take care
[04:30] <m-c> bagelong: we like helping new users - that's why everyone is here  :)
[04:30] <Lucifer666> mrgreen lay off hulk
[04:30] <unavailable> kelvin_ these are modules located in /lib/modules/...insertkernelversionhere.../kernel/net/bluetooth
[04:30] <bagelong> wols:  What did I do then?  Now I am hung up on a black screen.
[04:30] <Megaqwerty> KRaZy_WaKa: with that, you can just install windows, and recover ubuntu afterwards
[04:30] <KRaZy_WaKa> nah not really just have an OEM winXP key on my tower and dont wanna waste it, its mostly because i can and i'm into technology
[04:30] <mrgreen> :) bye
[04:30] <unavailable> kelvin_ they are .ko files
[04:30] <wols> bagelong: you reconfigured your GUI drivers
[04:31] <cdeszaq> beep
[04:31] <wols> KRaZy_WaKa: use virtualbox with seemless windows
[04:31] <Scunizi> KRaZy_WaKa: time for VMWare server.. if you need usb support in windows
[04:31] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: is there something else you need help with?
[04:31] <wols> Scunizi: vbox does this too. and is seemless. and is in ubuntu
[04:31] <aaron_> anyone know?
[04:31] <bagelong> wols:  I am basically looking at a black screen with a few process lines with the last one being "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local).  Below that is a blinking cursor.
[04:32] <Soulwarp> Scunizi: VMware handles USB support? i may try it out
[04:32] <Scunizi> wols: I thought the gpl'd version didn't have usb support.
[04:32] <wols> bagelong: ctrl+alt+f1 and log in. then sudo ps aux |grep X
[04:32] <angela> Is there any guide to the layout of the linux root filesystem and what is generally in each subfolder and how it is organized?
[04:32] <boaz> Several days ago something messed up my kde4 desktop: everything on the desktop disappeared except for the mouse cursor. I uninstalled and reinstalled kde4 to no avail. So, I installed kde3; still I get only a blank screen. Anyone know how to overcome this?
[04:32] <KRaZy_WaKa> not wanting to virtualize it, just wanna have it on my second hard drive, running dual-boot alongside my Ubuntu primary os
[04:32] <lyle> hey there..  just wondering, but is there any reason why Ubuntu should have crap performance with 1 gig of ram, 2ghz p4, decent MSI mobo, 128 ati graphics card?  everything gets real sluggy when i open up a few tabs in firefox for just in general, really.  it's pretty depressing
[04:32] <unavailable> kelvin_ snnd-bt-sco is loc in /lib/modules/....kernelversion.../ubuntu
[04:33] <wols> KRaZy_WaKa: we told you what to do, if you don't like what we said, we cannot change it
[04:33] <lyle> and most of my windows of a thin white line about half inch off the left edge.
[04:33] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: Well, can I manually (or from a cron job) check my disks? The idea is that the machine never has to be rebooted, but on the very rare occasions that it does, I don't want to have to wait the 30-45 mins that a disk check takes
[04:33] <Scunizi> Soulwarp: yep.. 2.0 Beta works ok.. if you have issues with screen tears there's a fix.. AND windows can be accessed from any machine in the house/lan without installing anythign else
[04:33] <IdleOne> lyle, that is not ubuntu that is FireFox
[04:33] <lyle> IdleOne, no.  it is more then firefox.
[04:33] <DeepThought> KRaZy_WaKa: set bios to boot from hd2, install win, bios set to boot from 1 again, update grub; presto !
[04:33] <kelvin_> unavailable: ok give me a second
[04:33] <xbj9000> lyle could be the ati card, ati is not the best brand for linux
[04:33] <unavailable> kelvin.. ok
[04:33] <wols> Scunizi: you need a browser plugin to access. vbox comes with a vnc server built in
[04:33] <bagelong> wols:  okie dokie.
[04:34] <xbj9000> lyle try turning off the desktop effects
[04:34] <lyle> xbj9000, weird.. i use this same card on all my freebsd/debian installs wonderfully
[04:34] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: No, because your disks must be mounted as read-only for the check to work correctly. However, using autofsck, you can cancel the check alltogether
[04:34] <mercutio22> Hello
[04:34] <xbj9000> lyle I'm sure you can use it but it may be set wrong in some way
[04:34] <angela> lyle: are you running firefox 3?
[04:34] <Soulwarp> Scunizi: thanks for the info. i use skype phone and all the hardware that comes for it is usb windows only so i have a dedicated windows machine to handle calls. i'm going to check it out.
[04:34] <lyle> 'eh.. well that sucks :)  i slapped this on here for the girlfriend..
[04:34] <mercutio22> can someone help me pretty quick?
[04:34] <DeepThought> KRaZy_WaKa: advantage-bonus: in case of grub or ubuntu-failure you can still boot from hd2 to get on the web or do something important
[04:34] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: if this is a server we're looking at, and you don't want the graphical app, I can look into disabling the check
[04:34] <lyle> angela, yup yup
[04:34] <Scunizi> KRaZy_WaKa: not sure if it will work.. but you could pull the drive for ubuntu and then just install on the secondary (now primary) .. put the other drive back in and fix grub.. never done it that way.
[04:34] <genii> !ask | mercutio22
[04:34] <m-c> lyle: There are some new Free Software graphic card drivers.  Pretty nice.  Have you tried them yet?
[04:34] <mercutio22> I want a command line synthax to make rhythmbox start to play
[04:34] <wols> Scunizi: it won't work
[04:35] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: yes, that would be best...If I need to, I can always sit at the terminal and run it manually if I feel it is needed
[04:35] <Scunizi> wols: yep.. and it prompts you to install automatically..
[04:35] <bagelong> wols:  awaiting next instructions Oh wise one.
[04:35] <wols> Scunizi: on my mobile?
[04:35] <Scunizi> wols: you can't chain load that way?
[04:35] <angela> Try the new Opera just for grins Lyle
[04:35] <lgc> DeepThought, that's really a deep tought, indeed :). I'm not a fan of Windows myself, on the contrary, rather. Alas I keep missing things if I don't have it at a keystroke away. One thing I don't like a bit in this site is the readiness of someone (embodied by wols this time) to convey their views of WHAT goes here and what not. And I'm always of the idea that #ubuntu should be a friendly place to hang around.
[04:35] <kelvin_> unavailable: so I have to go there and do a copy paste?
[04:35] <lyle> m-c, hrm, not sure?  :)  just installed Ubuntu yesterday.  i'll take a look at it.  i can get other cards, i just dont get why it is so pewp :)
[04:35] <Scunizi> wols: mobile?
[04:35] <w1ll> Is there a way to just roll back a botched update?
[04:35] <lyle> hehe
[04:35] <wols> Scunizi: no. windows notices it's on 0x81 instead of 0x80. will not work
[04:35] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: once again, the system would need to be mounted read-only, so you would need to unmount your main fs (not allowing you to do anything)
[04:35] <w1ll> like back to the orginal version?
[04:35] <unavailable> yah
[04:35] <m-c> Lyle: I agree about Opera - it may not be Free Software, but it is really fast
[04:35] <KRaZy_WaKa> scunizi: thats what i was thinking of doing just pulling the power from the ubuntu drive
[04:35] <wols> Scunizi: phone, pda, etc
[04:35] <kelvin_> unavailable: I tried this but don't work: gksudo gedit  /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic
[04:35] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: but yes, I'll check for you
[04:35] <unavailable> rofl
[04:36] <wols> Scunizi: vnc is available everywhere unlike the vmware stuff
[04:36] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: If I am not mistaken, the check is done partition by partition, right?
[04:36] <m-c> lyle: Is it a newer HD graphics card, or an older one?
[04:36] <lyle> newer
[04:36] <mercutio22> Anyone can help me out here? I am trying to set up an alarm clock with rhythmbox and the sleep command
[04:36] <Scunizi> wols, KRaZy_WaKa maybe leave the windows drive as primary boot drive and ubuntu as the secondary drive then fix grub.
[04:36] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: correct
[04:36] <wols> lyle: lspci. what card exactly?
[04:36] <wols> Scunizi: he said he doesn't want this
[04:36] <kelvin_> unavailable: gksudo gedit  /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/net/bluetooth correct path
[04:36] <kelvin_> unavailable: but even dont' work
[04:36] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: so that means, theoretically, a script could un-mount, re-mount as read only, check, unmount, remount as normal, each non-root partition, right?
[04:36] <willy> well, after all of this, how can I use my external hdd at usb 2.0 speed? or this is something I can't do on 8.04 ?
[04:36] <Scunizi> wols: he wants a dual boot.. just offering options.
[04:37] <lyle> i put them in anything.  ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
[04:37] <m-c> lyle: The R500 and below work really great with the new "ati" driver that ... I believe is packaged with Ubuntu now
[04:37] <wols> lyle: what drivers are you using?
[04:37] <DeepThought> lgc; yep, he's being a tiny bit rude to a lot of people ;-)
[04:37] <lgc> angela, is Opera 10 out yet?
[04:37] <wols> lyle: "ati" works for this card. "fglrx" does not
[04:37] <mercutio22> I wan't to have something like "sleep 7h && rhythmbox (whatever it takes for it to play here)
[04:37] <angela> no
[04:37] <corevette> if i do a sudo apt-get install fluxbuntu...how do i get my restricted driver wireless card to work
[04:37] <unavailable> kelvin_  try this sudo cp /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/net/bluetooth/sco.ko /etc/modules
[04:37] <Gnea> i've got a silly USB question/issue. i've got an external dvd drive that i use to playback on a pretty decent system. but it's only got 1.1, not 2.0, and so quite often the movies drop packets and become jittery, sometimes it stops altogether unless i mess with the player (vlc seems to work the best...) is there anyway that i could reload the usb driver to compensate?
[04:37] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: then, the root partition, presumably far smaller than the data partitions, could be allowed to have the normal fsck force behavior, because a check on that at boot would not take long
[04:37] <DeepThought> lgc, very helpful to a lot of other people as well though...
[04:37] <lyle> VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) == driver?
[04:37] <bakersfieldboy> what is mount and unmount is it like format in widows         ?
[04:37] <bagelong> wols:  any further instructions?
[04:37] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: is this correct?
[04:38] <wols> Gnea: how does reloading a driver make it go faster?
[04:38] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: correct
[04:38] <kelvin_> unavailable: ok it don't give any any error to me
[04:38] <wols> bagelong: I gave you a command to run
[04:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> Scunizi, Wols everyone else: thanx for the options and insight, i'll just mess around to see if i can get it, if not then i have to reinstall ubuntu after installing windows
[04:38] <wols> bagelong: I want its output
[04:38] <lgc> DeepThought, I agree. Such 'purism' is annoying.
[04:38] <unavailable> kelvin_  then this sudo cp /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/snd-bt-sco.ko /etc/modules
[04:38] <mercutio22> That didn't help\
[04:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> thanx again wish me luck :D
[04:38] <cdeszaq> do you know of any scripts or packages that are able to do this?
[04:38] <xbj9000> lgc now you are getting off-topic lol
[04:39] <kelvin_> unavailable: already
[04:39] <Gnea> wols: i have no idea - i've tried switching cables and that hasn't changed anything, i've used the drive on another system and it works fine
[04:39] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: tune2fs -i 0 /dev/hdxx
[04:39] <lgc> xbj9000, now he'd be right in calling me to order...:).
[04:39] <wols> Gnea: you'd need a way to do better caching I guess
[04:39] <Scunizi> KRaZy_WaKa: that maybe the ultimate solution.. when reinstalling ubuntu, if you haven't already, make a separate partition for /home.. makes reinstalls easier..and you don't lose anything.
[04:39] <unavailable> kelvin_ ?
[04:39] <Gnea> wols: hrm
[04:39] <lyle> wols, how can i find the specific driver?  doesnt seem to be in xorg.conf
[04:39] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: replace /dev/hdxx with the correct path to the drive and partition, and that will disable forced fsck
[04:39] <kelvin_> unavailable: it work
[04:39] <m-c> Lyle:  If you want to try cutting edge Free Software drivers and you are feeling a bit daring, then take a look at this.  I'll warn you -- this is not at all supported by Ubuntu, and it probably won't work great for extreme 3D games, but you may want to check it out anyway.  http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?s=e6059bf57a04b2327f00af4663511407&t=9951
[04:39] <unavailable> kuul
[04:39] <wols> Gnea: a DVD has a data stream of 1,35MB/s which afaik USB 1.1 just can't provide
[04:39] <bagelong> wols:  There is quite a bit.  Anything specific.  Can't cut an past as I am on a different machine.
[04:39] <unavailable> now cd /etc/modules
[04:39] <DeepThought> lgc or giving an answer and presuming its the only valid one...   anyway, back to topic, or do we wish to elaborate on #off-topic ?
[04:39] <unavailable> dir
[04:39] <wols> lyle: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:40] <m-c> Lyle: They worked really wellfor me
[04:40] <wols> bagelong: a process named X
[04:40] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: I assume you know how to find the /dev location of your drive?
[04:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> not a bad idea Scunizi thanx again
[04:40] <SrgSantos54> hello
[04:40] <wols> bagelong: does the PC with the problem have internet access?
[04:40] <Scunizi> KRaZy_WaKa: np
[04:40] <bakersfieldboy> iam not sure what  mount is but ithink its more in the lines as activate or make rdy ?
[04:40] <cdeszaq> Megaqwerty: thank you for finding that. It will work in the short term, and will suffice until I can put together a script that will do what I detailed above
[04:40] <lyle> m-c, cool, thanks.  i just need something to work 100% for my girlfriend.. that's all.  i do server work/ programming and play 0 games.. i just need something to work :)  got her off windows finally.. and now this!
[04:40] <SrgSantos54> how do u make a clean up in ubuntu
[04:40] <mercutio22> how can I make rhythmbox play from the command line??
[04:40] <bagelong> wols: yes.
[04:40] <unavailable> kelvin_ you do step 10 yet?
[04:40] <cyphase> if a podcaster has just started using ubuntu/linux, what audio editor should they use?
[04:41] <amenado> SrgSantos54-> what are you trying to clean up?
[04:41] <wols> bagelong: then you can access pastebin from it
[04:41] <m-c> Lyle: These new Free Software drivers will be in the next version of Ubuntu by default, if you want to play it safe then just wait and it'll work out of the box
[04:41] <wols> !pastebinit
[04:41] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: I'm confused...I'm pretty sure what I just gave you does what you detailed above
[04:41] <m-c> Lyle: Thank AMD for their hard work supporting the Linux kernel
[04:41] <kelvin_> unavailable: yeah is running (Audio) and said Motorola H12 headset
[04:41] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: you asked for the ability to disable the fsck on certain partitions. That command will do so
[04:41] <wols> m-c: AMD dropped ALL support for his card several years ago and didn't help one bit with it
[04:41] <lgc> DeepThought, nah! Actually, the flame vanished, already. It is, though, a recurrent topic. Kindness should be fostered in this joint.
[04:41] <unavailable> kelvin_ perfectly??
[04:41] <bagelong> wols:  right now I have what looks like a "forgive my language" DOS screen.  How would I access pastebin?
[04:41] <Gnea> wols: well i've noticed that when i burn an ubuntu cd or dvd, it burns slow too - but it makes it through, just at a slower pace, which is fine for that application...
[04:41] <SrgSantos54> something similar to a disk clean up in windows
[04:42] <kelvin_> unavailable: ok will do it again
[04:42] <xbj9000> cyphase check out audacity and rezound
[04:42] <unavailable> kelvin_ i was just asking if it was actually letting you hear stuff
[04:42] <wols> Gnea: burning is not watching an isochronous movie. bruning can go at 1 byte per second theoretically. you can't watch a movie at that speed
[04:42] <cyphase> xbj9000: doesn't audacity have problems unless you close everything else that could be locking the sound card?
[04:43] <cyphase> e.g. it won't work with pulseaudio
[04:43] <SrgSantos54> amenado->something similar to a disk clean up in windows
[04:43] <kelvin_> unavailable: oh what i did was unpair it
[04:43] <m-c> wols: He said it was a new video card, so you may be mistaken.
[04:43] <lyle> hm.. it is loading 'ati' and 'radeon' ... is this one in the same or could it be loading both the onboard and the pci carD?
[04:43] <wols> bagelong: lynx, a text mode browser for example
[04:43] <xbj9000> cyphase you may have problems with ANY sound editor due to those issues, as far as I know
[04:43] <lyle> *agp
[04:43] <wols> lyle: it's the same
[04:43] <lyle> k
[04:43] <SrgSantos54> CAN ANYONE HELP ME !!
[04:43] <xbj9000> cyphase if you have good specs, try Ardour
[04:44] <wols> m-c: a radeon 9200 is several years old
[04:44] <amenado> SrgSantos54-> am not familiar with disk clean up in windows, what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[04:44] <xbj9000> it works with JACK, cyphase
[04:44] <CWii> SrgSantos54: not with caps lock
[04:44] <cyphase> xbj9000: it's not for me :)
[04:44] <SrgSantos54> sorry
[04:44] <wols> SrgSantos54: since you shout: not anymore.
[04:44] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: for example, let's say you wanted to stop the fsck on partition one of your first scsi drive, you'd do: tune2fs -i 0 /dev/sda1
[04:44] <cyphase> xbj9000: this person probably won't want to go through a lot of trouble to edit on linux
[04:44] <unavailable> hey i need to know how to get my icons back without losing my 4 different walls on my 4 workspaces??  is this possible?
[04:44] <kelvin_> unavailable: Not it don't wanna pair
[04:44] <wols> amenado: don't encourage bad behaviour like his
[04:44] <SrgSantos54> amenado-> becausse my computer is running slower now
[04:44] <xbj9000> cyphase I'm not sure how much trouble you'll have getting audacity to work
[04:44] <subcool> Hey guys, i have a simple one. I am using Gparted to partition a new 750gb drive. I put Ext3 and Fat32. No matter what i do, i dont have permission to write to it. Could i have a quick fix?
[04:44] <SrgSantos54> because
[04:45] <amenado> wols i was already responding to him before he'd done that deed
[04:45] <subcool> The drive is external to my computer
[04:45] <subcool> connected via USB
[04:45] <Megaqwerty> cdeszaq: am I making any sense?
[04:45] <lyle> Well thanks so much all..i'm going to try to throw 2 more video cards in here and try to rule this out.  i'll be back ;)
[04:45] <Scunizi> SrgSantos54: it's not running slower because it needs "clean up".. it's not like a windows machine..
[04:45] <wols> subcool: permission for which partition?
[04:45] <amenado> SrgSantos54-> slow? can you clarify please?
[04:45] <unavailable> kelvin_ It might be neccessary sometimes to remove the headset from the Bluetooth Manager and have it re-add itself by pressing Volume up
[04:45] <m-c> lyle: Good luck - hey one more thing
[04:45] <Lucifer666> You are all belong to mine :D
[04:45] <lyle> see..this is why i spend so much damn time in the console ;)
[04:45] <lyle> k
[04:46] <subcool> wols: Any i create.
[04:46] <wols> ls -l  your ext3 mountpoint
[04:46] <SrgSantos54> amenado-> because i am running battlefield 2 on this and its slower that when i installed in why would that happen
[04:46] <bagelong> wols:  I am sorry, I don't think I know how to do what you want me to.   Here is an example from the output of the previous command: root   4991  0.0  0.4  3172  1264 ?  S  21.46  0:00  /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash  --spawner :1.4 /ort/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/2
[04:46] <xbj9000> subcool you may have to unmount the drive first
[04:46] <karstensrage> anyone here in santa cruz?
[04:46] <subcool> xbj9000: i have-
[04:46] <subcool> im not guru-
[04:46] <DeepThought> lgc, agreed; and mostly I find this channel very friendly indeed; everyone should read the channel guidelines; they have a very good and concise article on what goes and what not and why.   Judging from the average temparature here most people have read them.
[04:46] <wols> bagelong: just reboot the PC. easiest for now
[04:46] <puzie> hy....
[04:46] <wols> bagelong: X won't come up but ther will be an error
[04:47] <boaz> Would the Ubuntu server with a gui make a good workstation as well as server?
[04:47] <Jester45> SrgSantos54: could be patches or mods that got installed that slow it down
[04:47] <subcool> xbj9000: i am just a advanced noob- but this is pissing me off. and i need to back everything up.
[04:47] <amenado> SrgSantos54-> you have enuff ram memory? can you clean up some of your temp files in /tmp?
[04:47] <wols> boaz: distinction server and workstation doesn't mean much. and yes you can do it. or you could just install normal ubuntu and the daemons you need
[04:47] <SrgSantos54> ok
[04:47] <SrgSantos54> amenado-> how can i do that clear the temp
[04:47] <wols> subcool: I asked you something
[04:47] <Jester45> boaz: its the same thing basicly you can get a desktop by installing the ubuntu-desktop package
[04:48] <subcool> wols: mybad
[04:48] <Gnea> wols: i just noticed the 'double buffering' feature in mplayer
[04:48] <wols> Gnea: caching, yes. that's your only bet I think
[04:48] <amenado> SrgSantos54-> via rm command, rm == remove   so you can remove temp files you dont need, but most likely its memory thing you need to rectify
[04:48] <puzie> hy.......
[04:48] <wols> so the dvd spins constantly and loads
[04:49] <m-c> subcool: How did you mount the volume?
[04:49] <boaz> wols and Jester45, I note that the server has no presumption. What does that mean?
[04:49] <Corkster> boaz: i have server installed and i add ubuntu-desktop i love it
[04:49] <SrgSantos54> amenado ->by any chance do u know the command to do that
[04:49] <bagelong> wols:  It is back up with a terminal open.
[04:49] <Gnea> wols: well this is a step in the right direction... thanks :)
[04:49] <wols> boaz: it assumes you know what you are doing. that's why I suggest you use desktop instead
[04:49] <kelvin_> unavailable: Step 14 don't work
[04:50] <wols> bagelong: good. now we need the content of file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:50] <subcool> m-c: the Drive auto Mounts when i plug it in. Then i unmount it to do the partioning with gparted
[04:50] <wols> !paste | bagelong
[04:50] <subcool> wols: i pissed the drive off with gparted - hold on.
[04:50] <unavailable> kelvin_ which part?>
[04:50] <Jester45> boaz: i dont know but i think if you install the server you will have root inabled (using the regualr cd but setting it to cli only install doesnt do that)
[04:50] <m-c> subcool Yeah, so a ls -l of the mount point like w suggested
[04:50] <subcool> before or after it being mounted?
[04:51] <wols> after
[04:51] <kelvin_> unavailable: Part 1 work, part to said: aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE test.wav
[04:51] <subcool> ah, the problem
[04:51] <Jester45> boaz: i belive that has something to do with server CPUs like xeon
[04:51] <kelvin_> unavailable: aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE test.wav
[04:51] <kelvin_> unavailable: test.wav: No such file or directory
[04:51] <unavailable> rofl
[04:51] <bagelong> wols:  Says no such file.   I have no other choice. I have made the decision to go to Linux and that is where we are going to go.
[04:53] <unavailable> kelvin_ do dir
[04:53] <wols> subcool: ls -al
[04:53] <kelvin_> amsn_received  Documents  Music     Public     Videos
[04:53] <kelvin_> Desktop        Examples   Pictures  Templates
[04:54] <tc111> boaz: good choice
[04:54] <SrgSantos54> amenado -> thanks
[04:54] <m-c> subcool - the mount point is the directory
[04:54] <boaz> tc111, 4 gig of ram. 64 bit AMD
[04:54] <unavailable> kelvin_ cd Desktop and try it there both parts
[04:54] <subcool> subcool@subcool-laptop:/media/disk-1$ ls -al
[04:54] <subcool> total 20
[04:54] <subcool> drwx------ 2 subcool root 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 .
[04:54] <subcool> drwxr-xr-x 8 root    root  4096 2008-06-25 23:51 ..
[04:54] <wols> boaz: the good news is, linux is a lot more logical overall and it's knowledge that lasts
[04:54] <jeff_> is this the place to get Ubuntu help?
[04:54] <unavailable> kelvin_ but i doubt thats a pro
[04:54] <wols> !paste > subcool
[04:54] <wols> subcool: sudo chmod 777 .
[04:54] <wols> jeff_: yes
[04:54] <m-c> subcool and so... you have no write permissions for the directory, right?
[04:54] <kelvin_> unavailable: the same
[04:54] <tc111> boaz: ok, not much diff then... server is stripped to the bare minimum for security, then add only what you need
[04:54] <subcool> correct
[04:55] <unavailable> kelvin the record and play?
[04:55] <wols> subcool: if you use the command I just gave you, you have permissions
[04:55] <subcool> isnt chmod a bit-overkill?
[04:55] <kelvin_> unavailable: record work, play don't
[04:55] <wols> for every user. right now, subcool can write to it
[04:55] <supersonic> hello
[04:55] <b0xxy> hello
[04:55] <jeff_> i have an ati radeon card 9550 and I'm getting very slow window performance.  I think I have the wrong driver.  Can anyone walk me through this problem?
[04:55] <unavailable> kelvin_ when you record does a file show up on your desktop?
[04:55] <supersonic> I need help
[04:55] <m-c> subcool I like chown but use what you prefer :)
[04:55] <tc111> boaz: if you were on a 32-bit cpu then server has support for >3GB ram whereas 32-bit desktop does not (unless recompiled)
[04:55] <b0xxy> !ask
[04:55] <wols> subcool: also, please show us the output of "mount"
[04:56] <wols> m-c: it already IS chowned to his user...
[04:56] <Scunizi> boaz if you want to set up a LAMP server and use it as a desktop (Linux, Apache, MySql & PhP) then install server.  once installed and logged in type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop".. that will install the desktop with all the typical programs you get with the other install.
[04:56] <subcool> mount will need pastbin
[04:56] <supersonic> my menu applications are gone and the panels too
[04:56] <kelvin_> unavailable: I don't see a .wav file in the Desktop
[04:56] <wols> subcool: then use it
[04:56] <Disco_jones> Well, I just read over the wifi wiki and had zero luck
[04:56] <boaz> tc111, great.
[04:56] <wols> !fglrx > jeff_
[04:56] <boaz> Scunizi, sounds good. Thanks.
[04:57] <tc111> boaz: with 64-bit of either, support is already there for >4GB ram
[04:57] <Scunizi> boaz: I'd recommend the 32bit version
[04:57] <subcool> you read my mind
[04:57] <wols> jeff_: ask if you have specific problems
[04:57] <unavailable> kelvin_ arecord -l
[04:57] <Disco_jones> ndiswrapper, driver installs. wifi won't show up. bcm-fwcutter, installs, shows up, tries to get IP and never gets IP
[04:57] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23009/
[04:57] <Disco_jones> wifi is open
[04:57] <kelvin_> unavailable: card 1: Headset [BT Headset], device 0: Bluetooth SCO PCM [BT SCO PCM]
[04:57] <kelvin_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[04:57] <kelvin_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:57] <wols> Disco_jones: ndiswrapper is not necessary. I told you: b43 and the firmware is in the restricted firmware package IIRC
[04:57] <pronto> since whatn has ubuntu had there own past bin Oo
[04:57] <boaz> Scunizi, why 32 bit?
[04:57] <Disco_jones> wols: I did that
[04:57] <Disco_jones> it's installed rigth now
[04:57] <jeff_> I think I might be running the proprietary driver instead of the open source one.  Which should I be using and how do I tell?
[04:58] <Disco_jones> It just won't connect
[04:58] <supersonic> how do I get back my menu panel? like the shut down buttons and applications
[04:58] <Disco_jones> recognizes my caRD FINE
[04:58] <tc111> boaz, Scunizi: guessing driver support?
[04:58] <puzie> jnuygftm,
[04:58] <wols> Disco_jones: b43 doesn't equate to ndiswrapper
[04:58] <SeveredCross> jeff_: Proprietary xorg driver?
[04:58] <jeff_> ATI driver
[04:58] <Scunizi> boaz: as a new user of linux and wanting to use the desktop.. most of the programs are 32 bit.  You have to jump through some hoops to get some 32 bit programs to function.
[04:58] <wols> jeff_: I just told you
[04:58] <Scunizi> tc111: that's part of it.
[04:58] <Disco_jones> wols: I realse this
[04:58] <Disco_jones> nvm I give up
[04:58] <subcool> m-c: sudo chmod 777 - whats the rest?
[04:59] <wols> Disco_jones: then why mention it?  check iwconfig
[04:59] <subcool> the directory?
[04:59] <SeveredCross> jeff_: To find out which driver you're using, try sudo lsof -p `pidof X`
[04:59] <SeveredCross> Then look for fglrx in the output.
[04:59] <m-c> subcool I do not think you needed to do that - you already owned the directory
[04:59] <SeveredCross> If you don't find fglrx there, you're not using fglrx.
[04:59] <boaz> Scunizi, is performance about the same?
[04:59] <tirilin> hola  a todos, tengo una macbook y le instale ubuntu hardy para 64 bits, estoy bien?? o debo de instalar el de 32???
[04:59] <wols> subcool: nothing. it'S vfat, not ext3.show us how writing to it fails
[04:59] <subcool> m-c: ya, but i cant write to it
[04:59] <tc111> Scunizi: ok, i see that the installation of the ia32-libs can be confusing for new users and 32-bit would be better...
[04:59] <m-c> subcool I am thinking about this more
[04:59] <tirilin> hola  a todos, tengo una macbook y le instale ubuntu hardy para 64 bits, estoy bien?? o debo de instalar el de 32???
[04:59] <tirilin> hola  a todos, tengo una macbook y le instale ubuntu hardy para 64 bits, estoy bien?? o debo de instalar el de 32???
[04:59] <SeveredCross> !es tirilin
[04:59] <SeveredCross> Bah.
[04:59] <SeveredCross> Whatever.
[04:59] <supersonic> did anyone see my questions?
[04:59] <m-c> subcool if you go into the directory and type touch filename - you should be seeing a file there
[04:59] <subcool> wols: i cant copy my files to the drive- i dont have permission
[05:00] <wols> subcool: including the command you use for writing. note that using vfat for backups is a bad idea. you will lose permissions and owners of files if you just copy it over with cp
[05:00] <bagelong> wols: The amount of out put from less /var/log/Xorg<tab> is massive.  I can only highlight one page screen at time.  Do you want it all?
[05:00] <wols> subcool: I want it exactly as I asked
[05:00] <Scunizi> boaz: see what tc111 posted above .. performance with 32 bit programs on 64 bit.. no experience.. standard office stuff? you won't notice the difference
[05:00] <wols> bagelong: and I want it ALL
[05:00] <sagredo> hello free friends of ubuntu
[05:00] <sagredo> howest do i have play .asf files
[05:00] <pronto> hello
[05:00] <wols> boaz: no NOT use amd64 unless you really know what you are doing
[05:00] <supersonic> hello?
[05:00] <wols> !w32codecs
[05:00] <wols> !w32codecs > sagredo
[05:01] <sagredo> wols: I gots the latest version of that codes
[05:01] <choreboy> yea dont use amd64 unless you know what you are doing i learned that the hard way
[05:01] <subcool> subcool@subcool-laptop:/media/disk-1$ touch filename
[05:01] <subcool> subcool@subcool-laptop:/media/disk-1$ ls
[05:01] <subcool> filename
[05:01] <sagredo> wols: mplayer url.asf fails to play
[05:01] <wols> subcool: so it works
[05:01] <bakersfieldboy> am i the only one geting 00:00 at left of screen
[05:01] <subcool> this is like being at work
[05:01] <wols> sagredo: errors are a wonderful thing if you tell them to othes
[05:01] <subcool> we didnt do ANYTHING to fix it!
[05:01] <supersonic> I need some help here
[05:01] <subcool> and it just magically works!
[05:02] <sagredo> wols:  wha
[05:02] <wols> subcool: vfat is still a lousy backup filesystem
[05:02] <SeveredCross> jeff_: Any luck figuring out your driver?
[05:02] <wols> !errors > sagredo
[05:02] <DrLame> What's 'la -lah' do? I know ls is list... but what's -lah?
[05:02] <DrLame> err
[05:02] <atlanta800> I installed my system from the alternate disk, and selected "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" How do I resize my root partition on the LVM so that I can add another?
[05:02] <subcool> wols: i was trying for ntfs and ext3
[05:02] <m-c> The installation of 32-bit-compatibility-libraries is part of the default 64-bit ubuntu disribution now with 8.04 - there is really no reason to be warning people away from it these days
[05:02] <DrLame> 'ls -lah' I mean
[05:02] <spoon_man> supersonic, do you have a panel bar at the bottom of the screen?
[05:02] <wols> DrLame: man ls
[05:02] <supersonic> no
[05:02] <wols> subcool: then use ext3. only sensible choice
[05:02] <supersonic> everything is gone
[05:02] <Scunizi> m-c: thats news to me.. and welcome.. thanks
[05:03] <jeff_> SeveredCross:  No. got an error with:   sudo lsof -p `pidof X`
[05:03] <DrLame> wols: what's -lah do?
[05:03] <SeveredCross> jeff_: What kind of erro?
[05:03] <bakersfieldboy> whats chris prillo server his running chat on ?
[05:03]  * SeveredCross just tried it on his machine, and it worked.
[05:03] <subcool> wols: if it works.. Deal-
[05:03] <atlanta800> m-c: but how easy is it to get flash working in firefox?
[05:03] <kelvin_> unavailable: are you there?
[05:03] <DeepThought> jeff, you don't know how to check wich driver you're using right now, is that correct ?
[05:03] <jeff_> illegal process ID: pidof X
[05:03] <spoon_man> supersonic, that sounds like a problem with X
[05:03] <jeff_> correct
[05:03] <unavailable> Kelvin_ yah, im getting puzzled
[05:03] <wols> DrLame: if you are too lazy to use a manpage, I am not gonna tell you
[05:03] <SeveredCross> jeff_: Did you remember the backticks?
[05:03] <m-c> atlanta800: there's a popup asking if you want it installed, you click yes, and it installs
[05:03] <SeveredCross> Note that it was sudo lsof -p `pidof X`
[05:03] <kelvin_> unavailable: oka..
[05:04] <SeveredCross> Notice the backticks around pidof X.
[05:04] <jeff_> ah. I'll try agaibn
[05:04] <boaz> tc111, wols, Scunizi, Jester45, Corkster, many thanks. Your advice is very much appreciated.
[05:04] <DrLame> wols: I don't know what manpage is, but I guess I'll google it. Pretty new to linux
[05:04] <atlanta800> m-c: wow, I might have to check it out again, I gave up on it back in like Edgy days...
[05:04] <spoon_man> !res > supersonic
[05:04] <supersonic> how do I fix it?
[05:04] <m-c> atlanta800: personally, I am adverse to non-free software, but that;s OT  ;)
[05:04] <wols> DrLame: I told you "man ls"
[05:04] <SeveredCross> What you basically want is sudo lsof -p `pidof X` | grep fglrx
[05:04] <DeepThought> jeff, please put my nick in front of the answer, so I know you're talking to me ;-)   from the 'correct' answer I assume you were, were you ?
[05:04] <SeveredCross> If you don't get anything from that, you're not using the closed-source driver.
[05:04] <Scunizi> boaz: np.. welcome to the learning curve! :)
[05:04] <DrLame> wols: and that means nothing to someone who doesn't know what man or manpage is, lol
[05:04] <tc111> DrLame: l = show permissions, a = show hidden files, h = list in human readable (KB, MB, GB) file sizes
[05:05] <atlanta800> How do you resize a partition that's on an encrypted LVM?
[05:05] <jeff_> Deepthoght: yes.  I am trying to check my driver.
[05:05] <wols> DrLame: instead of talking back, you should maybe DO it for a change. you will be enligthened
[05:05] <DrLame> tc111: ty
[05:05] <spoon_man> !man | drlame
[05:05] <jeff_> SeveredCross: it prints a lot of lines.  Not sure what I'm looking for
[05:05] <Jester45> DrLame: run man  man :)
[05:05] <SeveredCross> jeff_: Look for the word "fglrx" in the output.
[05:05] <DeepThought> jeff_: ok: go to screens and graphics in settings menu (could be system menu)
[05:05] <SeveredCross> Oh yeah, I forgot Ubuntu has that.
[05:05] <SeveredCross> :>
[05:06] <wce> Today i installed my amd64 copy of ubuntu 8 on a 80 gig drive by itself, i made sure to unplugg the windows hard drive in case of f ile loss, but what happens now is that when i plugged both drives grub wont recognize my windows install, it will just pass straight to ubuntu. what can i do to fix this???
[05:06] <tc111> atlanta800: use the tools provided by the specific filesystem (ext3, xfs, reiserfs, etc...)
[05:06] <wols> wce: install ubuntu while windows is present. or edit your menu.lst manually
[05:06] <m-c> wce - grub is probably using the UUID which is being changed when you plug in the second drive
[05:06] <nabill> haiiiiiiii
[05:06] <Scunizi> wols: you sound a little frustrated tonight.. when they don't know .. they don't know where to start.. honey over vinegar wins every time
[05:06] <jack-desktop> how can i disable the "Recent Documents" menu?
[05:06] <atlanta800> tc111: is there any way to go about it in gparted?
[05:06] <DrLame> Sweet. Thanks guys! Specially you, wols ;)
[05:06] <tc111> atlanta800: after resizing the filesystem, resize the lvm partition with those tools
[05:07] <tc111> atlanta800: no, once you choose lvm, you also choose cli
[05:07] <jeff_> DeepThought: Under screens and graphics-> graphics cards, Driver = ati -ATI mach8, Mach32.. etv
[05:07] <m-c> wce: yes, what wols says - but know you can use the /dev/sdXX instead of the UUID to make it esaier for yourself
[05:07] <wce> I dont feel like installing it over again, how can i make it dual boot without reinstalling?
[05:07] <wols> atlanta800: first you need to resize the LVM (not in gparted) then you can resize the filesystem inside the LVM with gparted
[05:07] <atlanta800> tc111: after I resize the partition I would like to make a partition with the freespace it creates...
[05:07] <unavailable> Kelvin_ dunno man m-c??
[05:07] <wols> atlanta800: and you need to do it from a livecd
[05:07] <chaco> when i run the adobe flash installer for linux it gives me an error that says that my architecture "x86_64" is not supported, how do i fix this?  i can see any youtube videos.
[05:07] <DeepThought> jeff_: yep, that's it; you should be able to see there what driver is active now
[05:07] <jeff_> SeveredCross: I'm having a hard time reading things in my terminal. Characters aren't printing.  They're invisible.
[05:07] <wols> atlanta800: and do a backup before you start
[05:07] <unavailable> m-c we got the modules there...
[05:07] <SeveredCross> jeff_: Never mind.
[05:08] <wce> i guess ill just re install it with windows present!
[05:08] <SeveredCross> I forgot that Ubuntu had the Screens & Graphics utility.
[05:08]  * SeveredCross is using Debian at the moment.
[05:08] <Jester45> wce: yes fix grub's config... plus you have to tell grub where windows is to get it to boot it its a good software but not magic
[05:08] <atlanta800> wols: yeah I knew a livecd would be involved, but do I need to resize the lvm if I'm shrinking my partition and filling the free space with another?
[05:08] <wols> !flash > chaco
[05:08] <DeepThought> SeveredCross: ;-)
[05:08] <Scunizi> jeff_: is it a black background?
[05:08] <unavailable> m-c everything works till step 14  it dont record the file.. at all  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4910397
[05:08] <kelvin_> unavailable: What?
[05:08] <wols> atlanta800: if the lvm stays the same size of course not
[05:08] <spoon_man> wce, you don't have to reinstall, just edit menu.lst
[05:08] <jeff_> Deepthought:  That's the one that looks active:   "ati - ATI Mach8, Mach 32, Mach 64..."
[05:08] <atlanta800> wols: alright, let's see how this goes
[05:08] <sagredo> wols: here's my mplayer error, what now http://pastebin.com/m628bbb5e
[05:08] <tc111> atlanta800: this will all have to be done outside a running system (use a bootable live cd with the appropriate tools). the space you free will then be available for creating an additional lvm partition
[05:09] <wols> unavailable: check error messages, syslog and kernel log
[05:09] <supersonic> so any idea how to get the menu apllications and panels on again? anyone?
[05:09] <unavailable> kelvin_ try arecord -L and look for the name of your blutooth
[05:09] <wols> atlanta800: the livecd mus be able to access and decrypt the encrpted filesystem
[05:09] <unavailable> wols say to kelvin_
[05:09] <max_laptop> greetings, anyone know how to get hdmi out to work on an intel GM965 (dell xps m1330) under hardy?
[05:10] <DeepThought> jeff_: that should be the right one then...   I'm not sure though wether that's the open source one or proprietary, I belive the latter; probably there's a tick-box that sez wether it is ?
[05:10] <atlanta800> So my next question is this, I install ubuntu with via the alternate installer and set up my system on an encrypted lvm, if I resize my root parition on the lvm, can I install ubuntu studio into that encrypted lvm?
[05:10] <atlanta800> using the same /boot of course, just a different root partition on the lvm
[05:10] <m-c> kelvin_ unavailable Hmm -- I have never worked through these steps before, but I know BT can be very tricky (I worked for two days on my Apple keyboard -- better than the two months I fought in Fedora a couple years ago).  Should you try posting your questions to the end of the forum thread and seeing who responds?  Until then, is there a wired headset you can use?
[05:10] <jeff_> DeepThought:  it doesn't say whether it's proprierary or not... <more>
[05:10] <sagredo> wols: here's my mplayer error, what now http://pastebin.com/m628bbb5e
[05:11] <aaron_> how do I install themes for ubuntu?
[05:11] <kelvin_> unavailable: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23010/
[05:11] <DeepThought> jeff_: wait, let me check something... be right back
[05:11] <supersonic> how do I fix "X"?
[05:12] <m-c> aaron_: Do you know where to download them?  Then just use System -> Pref -> Appearances to import them
[05:12] <tc111> atlanta800: wow, not sure how that would work... installing ubuntustudio will format /boot...
[05:12] <lyle> m-c, (from earlier) could be the video card i guess.. i disabled the effects and it is all good.  On medium, processor was ~70% and when i loaded new windows spiked to 90 something!!  i dropped it to the low effects (none) and the processor is at 20% now
[05:12] <aaron_> I try to import it but it I don't think its loading up right.
[05:12] <kelvin_> m-c: yes I might try posting in forum, no I don't have wired head set,
[05:12] <stevensj2> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me with an odd dialup problem I'm having w/ hardy and an external modem?
[05:12] <tc111> atlanta800: does ubuntustudio's installer support encrypted LVM's?
[05:12] <max_laptop>  Anyone know how to get video out using intel gfx? (xrandr -q : http://pastebin.com/m4ece1b8c )
[05:13] <lyle> Ubunutu doesnt like the onboard video and all my other cards are the wrong bus type :-/  i'll have to snag one tomorrow
[05:13] <spoon_man> supersonic, did you get that PM I sent from the bot?
[05:13] <atlanta800> tc111: well I'm manually parititoning, so can't I just tell it to use the existing /boot and not format it? the part I'm worried about is getting it unencrypt the lvm partition
[05:13] <m-c> kelvin_: they're cheap!  *shrug*
[05:13] <supersonic> no
[05:13] <atlanta800> tc111: the ubuntustudio installer is identical to the ubuntu alternate installer
[05:13] <kelvin_> m-c: yeah!
[05:13] <sagredo> How do I play online .asf files? Surely this is possible*****
[05:13] <m-c> kelvin_: So, it looks like you are seeing the headset in aplay -l ?
[05:14] <lyle> sagredo, xmms doesnt have a plugin?
[05:14] <tc111> atlanta800: usually the installer will demand that /boot, /root, /tmp and swap be formatted before continuing
[05:14] <supersonic> is it suppose to open in new window?
[05:14] <kelvin_> m-c: If I install windows virtually I will be having the same problem or the problems in ubuntu affect the virtual machine?
[05:14] <atlanta800> tc111: hmm, alright, well it's worth a try, I'm already backed up, we'll see what happens
[05:14] <kelvin_> m-c: card 1: Headset [BT Headset], device 0: Bluetooth SCO PCM [BT SCO PCM]
[05:14] <kelvin_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[05:14] <kelvin_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[05:14] <tc111> atlanta800: let me know, i'm curious
[05:14] <m-c> kelvin_: I suspect it will be more difficult to get it to work.
[05:14] <Amdomida> hello
[05:14] <TRainwreck> hello
[05:15] <m-c> kelvin_: Is it muted in ALSA or something?
[05:15] <stevensj2> I've configured my dialup connection (I'm using it at the moment), I can ping google.com, use apt-get, etc...but I cannot browse the web w. firefox. Any ideas?
[05:15] <atlanta800> tc111: for sure
[05:15] <DeepThought> jeff_: no, that's the open source driver... should be fine, as far as I know it has 3d support and open-GL, if you have problems though you could try proprietary, wich is the fglrx driver; in screens and graphics just set your card from the ATI column under manufacturers, then set the proprietary box
[05:15] <m-c> kelvin_: I did not realize you were seeing it with ALSA ... that makes a big difference
[05:15] <fredbear> Hello, an interesting problem I have at the moment.  My userid started not recognising my password, I couldn't change it and couldn't su so I followed the instructions to reboot into recovery mode, perform passwd username and then reboot, system wont let me login.  I have created a new account and tried to reset the password from there and I do not get any errors but it will not allow me to logon
[05:15] <kelvin_> m-c: how I go to alsa?
[05:15] <TRainwreck1> can anyone help me restor my windows vista to my grub boot menu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5263580#post5263580
[05:15] <unavailable> roflcopter  kelvin_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSkype
[05:15] <supersonic> I hope I don't have to reinstall Ubuntu lol
[05:16] <DeepThought> jeff_: or if that don't work, try from settings menu the hardware drivers manager; there should be an option to switch on propr. driver for the ati card there.
[05:16] <TRainwreck1> isnt ubuntu suposed to recognize windows when it installs and add it to the grub menu
[05:16] <jeff_> DeepThought:  When I tried to change, the screen was completely garbles except for the "keep settings" window
[05:16] <m-c> unavailable: good find!  *whew*  I did not want to start fighting with a muted mic
[05:16] <WolfLover> you don't need windows anyway
[05:17] <TRainwreck1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5263580#post5263580
[05:17] <unavailable> kelvin_  oops btw i found out /etc/modules isnt a dir  0_o
[05:17] <TRainwreck1> windows is good for playing windows games
[05:17] <tc111> fredbear: is your home folder accessible and permissions set properly?
[05:17] <unavailable> kelvin_ so youre gonna have to del the dir with sudo
[05:17] <WolfLover> use win then
[05:17] <tc111> fredbear: for the failing account
[05:17] <WolfLover> wine
[05:17] <subcool> wols: what was that trick again to make it work? I just used Gparted and turned it into a Ext3
[05:17] <jeff_> Deepthought:  where is that option for hardware drivers? (I'm a newb)
[05:17] <unavailable> kelvin_ theres a file called /etc/modules as well
[05:17] <TRainwreck1> wine doesnt work for everything
[05:17] <TRainwreck1> i love windows
[05:18] <max_laptop> Hello, I am trying to figure out how to enable an external monitor via HDMI in hardy on an intel gm965.... Anyone have any ideas? I'm sorta stuck
[05:18] <unavailable> kelvin_ leave that and do what it says in the tut
[05:18] <TRainwreck1> i mean ubuntu
[05:18] <fredbear> yep owner is me and can create and delet
[05:18] <m-c> tc111: ooh good call
[05:18] <unavailable> rofl rofl
[05:18] <kelvin_> unavailable: Ok trying...
[05:18] <niuq> hi, where can i get the steps for compiling the kernel
[05:18] <TRainwreck1> can anyone reply to my post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5263580#post5263580
[05:18] <bagelong> wols:  Still cutting an pasting.  almost there.
[05:18]  * unavailable is going to smoke
[05:18] <sagredo> yo
[05:18] <m-c> fredbear: is the partition full? or inaccessible?
[05:18] <supersonic> still there spoon man?
[05:18] <sagredo> all yous coders
[05:18]  * unavailable is now unavailable
[05:19] <stevensj2> Could anyone help me with my dialup issue? Seems like it should be an easy fix, but I cannot figure it out.
[05:19] <sagredo> hows does i play .asf files
[05:19] <tc111> m-c: ditto
[05:19] <fredbear> no new hdd 500g,
[05:19] <vinboy> hi
[05:19] <niuq> compile*
[05:19] <vinboy> i'm selling my HDD, how do I format it and make it unrecoverable?
[05:19] <Kidfork> Im havign a little trouble with keyframes in Cinelerra
[05:19] <Kidfork>  when i put a .ogg file i get this:
[05:19] <Kidfork>  virtual int FileOGG::Read_frame(VFram*): Error while seeking to keyframe, Wrong keyframe number (frame: 2028, keyfram: 2048)
[05:20] <subcool> m-c: you around?
[05:20] <stevensj2> dialup connection lets me apt-get, ping, use irc...but won't open web pages - what gives?
[05:20] <m-c> fredbear: and you can login with other accounts?  have you tried removing the line in /etc/passwd and typing it out again, then using the su to enter the password again?
[05:20] <tc111> vinboy: download darik's nuke cd
[05:21] <sagredo> so
[05:21] <sagredo> how does one play .asf
[05:21] <sagredo> in linux
[05:21] <philip> hello guys, question, is there any alternative for Microsoft Dynamics Retail Management System for Linux?
[05:21] <sagredo> in gnu+linux
[05:21] <bagelong> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.ocm/23011/
[05:21] <subcool> m-c: Ill take that as a yes, when u get a sec. i msg'd wols - but, i just recreated the partition as a ext3, and same problem again-
[05:21] <DeepThought> jeff_: sorry, was of the keys for a moment... it's in the settings menu (not in screens and graphics), it's a different application
[05:21] <m-c> sagredo: load the non-free codec packages, if that is acceptable where you live
[05:21] <vinboy> thx tc111
[05:21] <max_laptop> no one here can help with enabling external monitor?
[05:22] <jeff_> DeepThought: I'm on to something..
[05:22] <fredbear> remove the line for that userid from the /etc/password file?
[05:22] <m-c> subcool: don't message wols  ;)
[05:22] <sagredo> m-c: like medibuntu? I just did that
[05:22] <bonee> max_laptop: i have the same prolem
[05:22] <subcool> m-c: well, i didnt msg' but- got it.
[05:22] <m-c> fredbear: make sure you write copy it out on another line first (type it out)  ;)
[05:22] <jeff_> Deepthought:  the restricted managers driver says that the ATI accelerated graphics driver wasn't eneabled...
[05:22] <jeff_> Deepthought: loading now...
[05:22] <DeepThought> jeff_: you got it !
[05:23] <kelvin_> unavailable:  kelvin@kelvin-laptop:~/Desktop/btsco-0.5$ ./bootstrap
[05:23] <kelvin_> ./bootstrap: 3: aclocal: not found
[05:23] <m-c> sagredo: they are not in medibuntu - but yeah - they should be in your Synaptic list
[05:23] <chaco> when my laptop goes to sleep, it becomes unresponsive and cannot be woken up any more, the only option is to shut it down manually. how can i avoid this and make it wake up normally?
[05:23] <SeaPhor> DeepThought, did you happen to get your nick from the mice?
[05:23] <m-c> sagredo: they are in the multiverse
[05:24] <hanif_> has anyone upgraded to Heron and then had full screen issues on OpenGL games?
[05:24] <DeepThought> SeaPhor: yep; and I'll be 42 this July; looking forward to getting THE answer
[05:24] <m-c> subcool: you got some stuff going on there -- strange stuff -- have you checked the system log for errors?
[05:24] <jeff_> DeepThought: need to restart system.  Thanks for help!
[05:25] <wols> bagelong: are you in a GUI now?
[05:25] <unavailable> kelvin_ your following the 5.10 skip that ...
[05:25] <SeaPhor> DeepThought, i was 42 in january, and zaphod paid for my party
[05:25] <DeepThought> jeff_: good luck; hope it solves your problems !   Else you can always go back to ati-driver, you know how now ...
[05:25] <m-c> hanif_: Probably - have you check for known issues in the ubuntu forums and launchpad?
[05:25] <subcool> m-c: lil out of my league- every time i take step forward in linux, i take two back.
[05:25] <bagelong> wols:  if I knew what you meant I would answer you?
[05:25] <m-c> subcool: Oh, thought you said you were an advanced user
[05:25] <DeepThought> SeaPhor: and... did you get THE answer ?
[05:26] <wols> bagelong: do you have a graphical desktop?
[05:26] <bagelong> wols: yes.
[05:26] <SeaPhor> DeepThought, The QUESTION, u mean
[05:26] <subcool> m-c: advanced noob
[05:26] <kelvin_> unavailable: oh sorry I get confused
[05:26] <wols> bagelong: glxinfo   output of that please
[05:26] <DeepThought> SeaPhor: whooops, my mistake.. you ŕe so right...
[05:26] <chaco> when my laptop goes to sleep, it becomes unresponsive and cannot be woken up any more, the only option is to shut it down manually. how can i avoid this and make it wake up normally?
[05:26] <fredbear> that somehow killed the new account, now can't log back in on either account
[05:26] <m-c> subcool: we are all advanced noobs -- type 'tail /var/log/syslog' in the console - see what it says
[05:26] <hanif_> Leave Full Screen, windowed game does not take any peripheral input, sometimes will revert to full screen at a later time to get control again, but usually it is ctrl alt back NVidia drivers
[05:26] <subcool> m-c: i have beena noob for years
[05:27] <fredbear> what are the permissions supposed to be on /etc.passwd
[05:27] <m-c> subcool - no sorry, do 'dmesg' instead
[05:27] <subcool> ya, i was gonna say. not much there
[05:27] <Ashfire908> I'm trying to get Apache2 to use the php-cgi package, but when I visit a page, it offers to download the php apge insteand of processing it.
[05:28] <wasob> Hello
[05:28] <subcool> m-c: holy hell=
[05:28] <m-c> fredbear -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[05:28] <bagelong> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23014/
[05:28]  * max_laptop tries again
[05:28] <max_laptop> Hello, I am trying to figure out how to enable an external monitor via HDMI in hardy on an intel gm965.... Anyone have any ideas? I'm sorta stuck
[05:28] <subcool> m-c that was a mess. a bunch of fails... do u really want me to pastebin it?
[05:28] <m-c> subcool: nope
[05:28] <fredbear> it's not that then
[05:28] <wols> bagelong: you are still using the slow VESA
[05:28] <m-c> subcool - glad to know I am not nuts though
[05:28] <wasob> I have a server running Ubuntu, with LAMPP, and have connected to its FTPD server....but I get access denied when I login via FTP under the root account and try to transfer files..
[05:29] <bagelong> wols:  I don't know.
[05:29] <chaco> when my laptop goes to sleep, it becomes unresponsive and cannot be woken up any more, the only option is to shut it down manually. how can i avoid this and make it wake up normally?  or should i just not let it sleep?
[05:29] <subcool> m-c: ya, i guess that would be anice feeling. I settled with it years ago.
[05:29] <m-c> fredbear sudo make it so ;)
[05:29] <nabill> haiiii
[05:29] <Moodles> I need some linux help, when ssh'd in, how can I make Azureus load on the machine's desktop?
[05:30] <apex> How does one completely remove mysql-server and reinstall?
[05:30] <m-c> apex: Isn;t there an option to do that in Synaptic?
[05:30] <wols> apex: purge all "*mysql*" packages