[07:42] <sinbad33>   interface to operate correctly, it is necessary
[07:42] <sinbad33>   to select a video card driver for the X server.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  you could remove that  key in that file - its warning you that somthing may be cracked/hacked/changed
[07:42] <sinbad33> oops
[07:43] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  i get that if i reinstall/change the ssh keys on my servers
[07:43] <stdin> sinbad33: yes?
[07:43] <Lynoure> waveler: not necessarily, the bug is not confirmed and the reporter did get sound from all speakers from mplayer
[07:44] <firecrotch> Dr_Willis_Laptop: thanks, I wasn't sure what it meant, the huge warning said that someone may be trying a man-in-the-middle attack
[07:44] <sinbad33> ok im using onboard video chip on a gigabyte mobo
[07:44] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  yep its a warning.
[07:44] <sinbad33> stdin, how do i find out which video chip im using?
[07:44] <stdin> sinbad33: it should already have the default highlighted
[07:45] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> if you are on a local lan.. not really an issue.. if you were connecting to the  Mainframe at work... welll...
[07:45] <Lynoure> waveler: this is a bit complicated and I have not tried it, but it could help you: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml
[07:45] <firecrotch> Dr_Willis_Laptop: I'm trying to connect to my dedicated web server
[07:46] <waveler> i'll try it,thanks
[07:46] <firecrotch> Now I get " The authenticity of host 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)' can't be established."
[07:46] <firecrotch> Is that normal?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> firecrotch,  if you just insatlled it.. the ssh keys may of changed and its rembering the old key/ip/info so its flagging a warning
[07:46] <firecrotch> Alrighty
[07:46] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> ssh tries to be very paranoid about this stuff. :)
[07:46] <stdin> firecrotch: yes, because you removed it from the file, after you connect it won't be shown again
[07:47] <firecrotch> Well well well, apparently the password has been changed too.   Probably the techs at the hosting company screwed something up
[07:47] <sinbad33> stdin, ok, it asked me now for the resolution, i picked 1280x
[07:48] <stdin> sinbad33: yeah, just check all the ones you want to be able to use
[07:48] <Lynoure> firecrotch: or, alternatively, some wrong computer is pretending to be that one )
[07:49] <sebbar> is there some linux program that lets you pick the color of a picture and gives back the normalized rgb values?
[07:49] <sinbad33> xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized
[07:49] <Aeth> I'm running KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu 6.10. Can someone tell me how to alter the amount the volume slider changes when I press my keyboard volume controls... I'd like to reduce this amount so that the volume changes by less when I press the buttons. any pointers?
[07:49] <sinbad33> stdin, xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070113144642
[07:49] <Lynoure> firecrotch: You could call the techs and ask, to be on the safe side.
[07:49] <sinbad33> stdin, so now i guess i should reboot ?
[07:50] <stdin> sinbad33: that's ok, no, just restart X, no need to reboot
[07:50] <sinbad33> restart x?
[07:50] <sinbad33> hmm
[07:50] <Wulong> How can I restore xorg.conf from when I installed Kubuntu? I want exactly those settings.
[07:50] <kosmo> can someone tell me what the skim program doing
[07:50] <kosmo> ?
[07:50] <stdin> sinbad33: Logout, then choose "Restart the X server" from the menu on the Login screen
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> Wulong: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:51] <sinbad33> stdin, ahh ok thx
[07:51] <stdin> Wulong: use sudo before it
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> Wulong: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p critical xserver-xorg is better
[07:51] <stdin> sinbad33: no problem :)
[07:51] <mundisko> hi all
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> Wulong: -p critical will ask you less questions (possibly none)
[07:51] <Wulong> That is not the problem, because I don't know which driver. vesa/ati laggs when scrolling.
[07:51] <Wulong> fglrx don't seem to work.
[07:52] <mundisko> does anyone know how to configure s-video on intel i910 card ?
[07:52] <mundisko> on kubuntu
[07:53] <Zaggynl> Hi, anyone knows how I make a playable DVD out of a VIDEO_TS folder (with vobs) in k3b?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> ive just copied the folder to a dvd and its played (i think)
[07:54] <Zaggynl> hmm
[07:54] <Zaggynl> ah sweet
[07:54] <Zaggynl> wizard
[07:54] <Zaggynl> <3
[07:54] <stdin> Zaggynl: in k3b just choose "File -> New Project -> New Video DVD preject"
[07:54] <Zaggynl> yah, superb
[07:54] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> that all that seems tohappen with nero also. it generates a folder with the files.. then ya copy that folder to a dvd.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> i dont mess with dvds much however
[07:55] <Zaggynl> btw, how do I add the hdparm option from http://k3b.plainblack.com/faq to autostart in ubuntu dapper?
[07:55] <kosmo> !flash
[07:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:55] <stdin> Zaggynl: add them to /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:55] <sinbad33> stdin, had to reboot but it worked, atleast i hope it sticks :))
[07:55] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[07:56] <sinbad33> thx again stdin..  u = da M a N
[07:56] <kosmo> how i add option
[07:56] <kosmo> to k3b
[07:56] <kosmo> to burning mp3 files
[07:56] <kosmo> ?
[07:56] <stdin> sinbad33: heh, no problem :)
[07:56] <Shaezsche> for some reason myl aptop boots much faster when i am running on battery mode. also, cpu clocking doesnt work properly if im plugged in. any ideas?
[07:56] <lotusleaf> Do I need to install ntp-server in order to have ntpd running? It would only be for keeping one system up to date. (I don't want to use ntpdate) The Ubuntu Wiki says all you need to install is ntp-simple but that's not true, ntpd doesn't run (but it exists) and the .conf file mentioned doesn't exist.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> the KUBUNTU faq mentions what packages are needed to get k3b to burn mp3s to audio cd format
[07:58] <stdin> kosmo: you need "libxine-extracodecs" from multiverse
[07:58] <jimmie> can anyone tell me... where do i get the lame codec for my KAudioCreator ? Any Idea?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> !info lame
[07:58] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[07:58] <stdin> kosmo: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[07:58] <Aeth> anyone know which file you edit to configure kmilo?
[07:58] <kosmo> i see
[07:58] <Dr_Willis_Laptop> lame is a encoder prrogram. not a 'codec'
[07:59] <jimmie> and which codec does this enc use?  ;-) isn't it called lame as well ?
[07:59] <jimmie> anyway thanks a lot
[08:03] <Zaggynl> noes
[08:04] <Zaggynl> k3b isn't reaching 16x speed
[08:04] <Zaggynl> stuck at ~4x
[08:04] <Zaggynl> BenQ 1650
[08:04] <Zaggynl> http://www.pastebin.ca/315615 <= hdparm output
[08:05] <Zaggynl> Can someone help me with this?
[08:12] <spongebob59_> .quit
[08:13] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> k3b is just a gui it doesn't actually burn the cd's
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> that is done by the cli programs
[08:23] <Zaggynl> h3sp4wn, yes yes, thanks for the exactness
[08:23] <Zaggynl> I'm playing luser okay ;)
[08:24] <spitwise> hmm kgpg won't even launch for me
[08:24] <fxr_> hi what log would info about mount drives be wrote to?
[08:26] <blekos> how can i restart kde from command line (like killall gnome-panel)
[08:27] <_tsdgeos> you can kill kicker
[08:27] <_tsdgeos> but that's not restarting kde
[08:27] <fdoving> you can restart kicker with dcop too.
[08:27] <fdoving> .. i belive that would be similar to killall gnome-panel.
[08:27] <higi_> hi
[08:27] <blekos> and it is killall kicker
[08:27] <higi_> where is the control center?
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> You can do loads of stuff with dcop however the only stuff I know is what zsh tab completes
[08:28] <fdoving> higi_: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcontrol' -> run.
[08:28] <higi_> yes i know, but isnt it somewhere in the menu?
[08:28] <fdoving> higi_: no, it's replaced by system settings, in the menu.
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> dcop --user samw amarok player nowPlaying (I know that as well)
[08:28] <higi_> ah ok
[08:28] <higi_> thanks!
[08:28] <fdoving> kdcop is nice.
[08:28] <toxygene> does anyone know how to change the master wallet password?
[08:28] <fdoving> if you want an overview.
[08:29] <Zaggynl> I'm playing luser okay ;)
[08:29] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with low DVD burning speeds in k3b?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> its possible its your hard drive thats not keeping up.
[08:29] <SSJ_GZ> Zaggynl:Is DMA enabled on your DVD drive and hard drive?
[08:30] <Zaggynl> lemme get you a hdparm pastebin
[08:30] <Zaggynl> http://www.pastebin.ca/315615
[08:30] <spitwise> dammit no kgpg for powerpc
[08:31] <SSJ_GZ> Zaggynl:Hmmmm ... looks OK to me.  Dunno then; sorry :/
[08:31] <Zaggynl> okay, cheers
[08:31] <fdoving> !exploit > artbird309
[08:31] <fdoving> !exploit > artbird309
[08:32] <Zaggynl> ..?
[08:32] <fdoving> artbird309: please reade the private message ubotu sendt you.
[08:35] <spitwise> another option for kmail besides kgpg?
[08:36] <manesq> Nabend
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Seems strange that so many people don't bother upgrading router firmware so the exploit still exists
[08:40] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: i belive it's like that for anything that needs user interaction. there must be an annoying popup telling users to upgrade at once, or similar. :)
[08:40] <cloakable> How about the +++ATH0 modem exploit? :P
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> fdoving: surely being disconnected all the time would annoy you or ?
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> hey all
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> :)
[08:45] <manesq> hi ;)
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> i was wondering if anyone knows a good guitar tuner?
[08:45] <MaxDamage``> :p
[08:46] <manesq> for a real guitar or pc? :D
[08:46] <MaxDamage``> real guitar...
[08:46] <MaxDamage``> :D
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> oh
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> i mean
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> software
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> for tuning the guitar
[08:47] <MaxDamage``> that can run with kubntu
[08:47] <manesq> hehe ah I see
[08:47] <manesq> sorry I am a kubuntu newbie. 2nd time I am here on kubuntu. must check many things by myself though
[08:47] <manesq> sorry :/
[08:48] <ljubomir> which program can record input from tv card while showing it? Mencoder records nicely, but I see no video wile recording :((. Any ideas?
[08:48] <ljubomir> besides mythtv?
[08:49] <manesq> maybe LinVDR?
[08:50] <ljubomir> "We're here at digital TV, you can't use any analog TV cards."
[08:51] <ljubomir> besides, it seems its a whole distribution
[08:51] <Xera> how do i check what version of GTK i have?
[08:51] <ljubomir> cat /dev/video > file.mpg works too, but still no video while recording
[08:51] <manesq> ah ok sorry ljubomir
[08:52] <Xera> !gtk
[08:52] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[08:52] <Xera> um
[08:52] <Xera> lol
[08:52] <manesq> hehe
[08:52] <Xera> how do i check the version? :(
[08:52] <Xera> !gtkversion
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkversion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <Xera> die
[08:52] <manesq> sorry I am a newbie ^^
[08:52] <stdin> Xera: ask on #ubuntu
[08:52] <Xera> stdin: k
[08:53] <ljubomir> MaxDamage: try gtkguitune
[08:53] <dope> hey can i add the medibuntu repo on kubuntu without any issues?
[08:54] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:02] <borisyeltsin> Hi, wpasupplicant won't update and won't uninstall, even a dpkg --force-all --remove wpasupplicant gives errors. How do I delete it?
[09:07] <carsten> Hallo
[09:09] <binks> if something is install in /usr/bin/tovid and /usr/bin/local/tovid is it safe to remove one by sudo rm -r /usr/bin/local/tovid
[09:10] <binks> well its usr/local/bin/tovid but you no what i mean
[09:11] <binks> !dpkg | borisyeltsin
[09:11] <ubotu> borisyeltsin: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:11] <binks> oops
[09:12] <binks> try sudo apt-get remove -f wpasupplicant
[09:13] <borisyeltsin> binks: yah, I tried that already;) I figured it out though. the post removal script was lame so I commented it out and put in exit. No more problems.
[09:13] <binks> :)
[09:14] <borisyeltsin> Thanks for the attempted help though binks.
[09:15] <binks> story of my life atempted help
[09:15] <borisyeltsin> binks: if it makes you feel better I was trying to figure it out to do something completely useless. I needed to be able to install packages again so I could install flash player and watch a girl play wii sports in a bikini;)
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> borisyeltsin,  got a url? >!!!?!?!?
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:16] <borisyeltsin> lol
[09:16] <borisyeltsin> sure. one sec.
[09:16] <borisyeltsin> http://gamegaiden.com/girl-in-bikini-plays-wii-sports
[09:17] <borisyeltsin> lol;) I wonder what czessi is doing?
[09:17] <binks> not useless at all nice vid
[09:18] <ZachPruckowski> hey, if it's hot girl, that's a good reason
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:18] <Tm_T> borisyeltsin: I wonder how that's has anything to do in this channel?
[09:18] <binks> great reason now the site will go down with #ubuntu trafic
[09:19] <borisyeltsin> Tm_T: you're right it doesn't, I was just trying to make binks feel better because I solved the problem myself just as he was trying to help me. Then someone else here asked for the url. My bad basically;)
[09:20] <binks> no Tm_T lighten up
[09:20] <Tm_T> Yup.
[09:20] <Tm_T> binks: ?
[09:20] <borisyeltsin> anyhoo, I'm heading out. cheerio
[09:20] <binks> nightm8
[09:30] <phillijw> howdy
[09:30] <phillijw> i just installed kubuntu but my wireless wont work. I have a broadcom 43xx and the driver is messing up I think
[09:30] <daing> Hey, have any problems regarding NTFS resizing in the installer been reported?
[09:31] <dope> my linux keeps restarting
[09:31] <dope> it seems like the xserver just randomly restarts
[09:32] <dope> cause it'll be sitting at the desktop then bam i'm at the login screen
[09:32] <MaxDamage``> daing: nope... no problems
[09:32] <MaxDamage``> why?
[09:33] <daing> MaxDamage``: just asking as a precaution. Dont want the family's windows system to die on me while I install kubuntu :P
[09:33] <phillijw> dope, is it actually restarting or just logging you out?
[09:33] <daing> MaxDamage``: And i wasnt sure, because NTFS support in linux has been dodgy in the past
[09:33] <crazyrobot> back it up?
[09:33] <dope> logs me out
[09:33] <dope> like i said it looks like xserver is being restarted
[09:33] <phillijw> that is actually one of the power save settings or something
[09:33] <phillijw> maybe that is it
[09:33] <MaxDamage``> daing: nope, everything will work out fine if you dont make false movements
[09:33] <dope> are you sure?
[09:33] <phillijw> no im not sure
[09:34] <phillijw> thats why I said maybe
[09:34] <dope> where is this option
[09:35] <daing> MaxDamage``: what would be an example of false movements?
[09:35] <phillijw> probably in system settings somewhere
[09:35] <dope> like it just chills there then the screen goes black and the nvidia logo comes up and back to the login screen
[09:35] <phillijw> oh...
[09:35] <dope> it's not a full restart
[09:35] <phillijw> ok thats probably different
[09:35] <dope> heh
[09:35] <phillijw> ya that sounds like X crashing ors omething
[09:35] <dope> is there a log i can look at?
[09:36] <MaxDamage``> daing: deleting your partiton
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> may want to try a simple .xinitrc file and 'startx' command - (stop kdm from the console)
[09:36] <MaxDamage``> or resizing it so there isnt any free space
[09:36] <daing> MaxDamage``: yeah, I wouldnt do that. Okay, thanks
[09:36] <phillijw> dope, look at the x11 log maybe
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> dope,  go to the console and try 'sudo /etc/init.d.kdm stop'  then try 'startx'
[09:37] <dope> where's the log at. i'm in the X11 folder
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> dope,  it sounds like your window manager may be crashing/exiting.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> dope,  /var/log/SOMTHING normally
[09:37] <dope> ah ok
[09:37] <daing> MaxDamage``: Well, I just partitioned, and everything seems fine, but you never know until you boot up windows...
[09:38] <dope> damn there's a lot in here
[09:38] <dope> kdm?
[09:38] <phillijw> dmesg might be good to look at maybe
[09:38] <dope> xor.0.log?
[09:39] <Morbo> I set KDE to display mounted discs.  Instead of displaying the disc's title (it did under Gnome), it displays cdrom#
[09:39] <Rob-West> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695
[09:39] <Rob-West> :P
[09:40] <Morbo> I asked in KDE, and they suggested that something might be wrong with dbus or hal.
[09:40] <Morbo> Has anybody experienced this problem/know of a solution?
[09:40] <animimotus> someone has test webbasket ? http://basket.kde.org/webasket/
[09:42] <dope> i'm thinkin maybe it's messing up when the screensaver starts up
[09:42] <MaxDamage``> daing: well boot it =)
[09:42] <Rob-West> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580546
[09:42] <daing> MaxDamage``: Might aswell install Kubuntu before I boot windows.
[09:43] <daing> MaxDamage``: And my machine is being kind of slow, so it hasnt finished yet
[09:43] <MaxDamage``> daing: lol, and what are you using now?
[09:43] <stefano7> I can switch off Kubuntu from the shell ($ shutdown...), but if I try in KDE, system hangs. Any hint?
[09:43] <daing> MaxDamage``: My gentoo box
[09:43] <MaxDamage``> daing: alright :p
[09:44] <dope> is there a way to reinstall the xserver?
[09:47] <crazyrobot> apt-get remove kdm && apt-get install kdm?
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> dope: apt-get install --reinstall -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew xserver-xorg-core
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> Presuming xserver-org-core is considered the xserver
[09:48] <dope> i'm gonna try reinstalling my display driver
[09:49] <h3sp4wn> did you install a version from outside the repositories ?
[09:49] <crazyrobot> does anybody have any idea when KDE4 is comming out?
[09:50] <dope> yea
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> definately after April
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> dope: If you use nvidia.com's installer or ati's whenever you get a kernel or x update you may have to reinstall it
[09:52] <dope> i hit ctrl alt F1 and nothing happens
[09:53] <dope> how do i get to that console
[09:53] <phillijw> anyone have any experience with bcm43xx wifi cards? do you have to use ndiswrapper?
[09:53] <dope> phillijw: i used ndiswrapper
[09:53] <dope> and network-manager
[09:53] <dope> you know how to get to the console?
[09:53] <phillijw> Konsole?
[09:54] <dope> no
[09:54] <dope> like just a command line
[09:54] <phillijw> not sure what you mean
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> with a C not a K :)
[09:54] <dope> no kdm
[09:54] <ZachPruckowski> did you install off a live CD?
[09:54] <phillijw> oh, ya
[09:54] <phillijw> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:54] <coreymon77> my first question is are you sure that your card requires ndiswrapper
[09:54] <coreymon77> because if it doesnt
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: You don't have to use ndiswrapper
[09:54] <dope> that restarts the xserver
[09:54] <phillijw> corey, no thats why I'm asking
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 gets to the 6 consoles..
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[09:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> X normally runs on the 7th one,
[09:54] <phillijw> willis, ah, thats what I meant. im a dork
[09:55] <phillijw> here's the thing. I THINK the bcm43xx driver is already installed
[09:55] <phillijw> but i'm not sure
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: There is some firmware you need
[09:55] <coreymon77> phillijw: so, you are asking if it does?
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: those doc's tell you where to get it
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> (on the bcm43xx part)
[09:55] <phillijw> ok.. it hink ive tried the non-ndis method before and it didnt work. but thast when I was having HD failures so.. that could've been it
[09:56] <h3sp4wn> There is one card it cannot work for 4318 I think
[09:56] <dope> damimt
[09:56] <dope> this isn't working :|
[09:56] <dope> i can't get to just the console
[09:56] <dope> no kdm
[09:57] <phillijw> BCM4309 rev02 is what i have
[09:57] <fxr_> where do i set my color depth??
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: if you want to use ndiswrapper you need to do the blacklist
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> fxr_: xorg.conf
[09:57] <phillijw> i dont want to unless I have to
[09:58] <coreymon77> guys, is it possible to download/install frostwire through apt?
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire
[09:58] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> fxr_: Section "Screen" -> DefaultDepth    24
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> !find frostwire
[09:58] <ubotu> Package/file frostwire does not exist in edgy
[09:58] <coreymon77> Dr_Willis: it says to use the .deb
[09:58] <fxr_> thats it, thanks h3sp4wn r
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  not sure how i installed it in the past. download the deb then. :)
[09:58] <dope> so when i press ctrl alt F1 or F2 whatever all i get is a black screen
[09:58] <coreymon77> so, its not on apt?
[09:59] <phillijw> dope, right, a console
[09:59] <dope> any help is appreciated
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> its 'not in the repositories'
[09:59] <dope> well there's no cursor
[09:59] <dope> like on my other comp when i do that
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> at elast not in the official ones
[09:59] <coreymon77> okay
[09:59] <phillijw> dope, maybe you have resolution problems and you cant see it?
[09:59] <dope> i don't think so
[09:59] <dope> shouldn't matter
[09:59] <dope> i should see something
[10:00] <phillijw> try typing in a command
[10:00] <dope> i just did
[10:00] <phillijw> one that will list a lot of stuff
[10:01] <dope> it should ask for my login
[10:01] <jaguar> hola buenas tardes
[10:01] <Alarm-> hello. i did manage to run apache2 (somehow apache package it self wasnt working, but since i installed apache2 the service seems to run). i can see the small test page that i created localy by http://localhost , but not from a remote computer although i did add a port forwarting on port 80 on my router (port forwarding is not the problem, as i created an ftp and ssh succesfully) so i guess its something on the apache more likely
[10:01] <Tox> what other commands konqueror can open apart settings:/ ?
[10:01] <jaguar> alguien que me pueda ayudar con kubuntu 6.10?
[10:01] <jaguar> soy de Mxico
[10:01] <Morbo> !es | jaguar
[10:01] <ubotu> jaguar: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:02] <jaguar> gracias
[10:02] <Morbo> de nada
[10:02] <coreymon77> Dr_Willis: if there is a .deb for it, why is it not on the repos, its a pretty popular program after all
[10:02] <fdoving> Tox: apt:/ sftp:/ fish:/ help:/ man:/ zip:/ tar:/ and so on.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  i would guess no maintainer wants to mess with it.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  and there may be some licensing issues.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> it may be in the severas or other repos.
[10:03] <fdoving> Tox: you can find a list, with some descriptions at kmenu -> system -> kinfocenter -> protocols.
[10:03] <daing> Hey guys, wheres the grub.conf or menu.list in kubuntu?
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> - /boot/grub
[10:03] <Morbo> /boot/grub
[10:03] <daing> Thats what I thought... mm
[10:04] <daing> But it doesnt seem to be there
[10:04] <sukh> anyone know the command for the kde control center?
[10:04] <phillijw> this wiki has nothing about my wireless card :\
[10:04] <crazyrobot> Tox: actually a very cool feature in Konqueror is to put a audiocd in and type audiocd:/ for a nice ripping menu.
[10:05] <daing> Theres nodirectories inside /boot... only the kernels and some configuration files... Yet the installer said grub was installed
[10:05] <Tox> ok i mess with kmenu :) where is it :)
[10:05] <Xera> !phpgtk
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpgtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Xera> !php-gtk
[10:06] <coreymon77> Dr_Willis: what do you mean, licensing issues, its open source
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php-gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> daing,  you used the default setup?
[10:06] <Xera> >:(
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77,  go ASK THEM then...
[10:06] <daing> Dr_Willis: yes
[10:06] <Phre1> hey all.. so I got my wifi working.... the issue is that everytime I boot up I must manually open wlanassistant, enter root password, hit refresh twice till my SSID shows up and then connect.... is there an easier way?
[10:06] <sukh> Im trying to disable the bouncing mouse icon
[10:06] <daing> Dr_Willis: one big partition for everything, that shouldnt cause a problem
[10:06] <Tox> yes konqueror is the best browser i seen in linux
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> daing,  yea thats normal.. how are you looking at /boot ?
[10:06] <daing> Dr_Willis: and grub IS installed
[10:07] <daing> Dr_Willis: ls /boot
[10:07] <Xera> Tox: file browser yes, internet browser definetly not
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> konqueror is sweet
[10:07] <phillijw> :|
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> what
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> daing, hmm... odd....
[10:07] <daing> Dr_Willis: indeed
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> what's wrong with Konq as a web browser?
[10:07] <Xera> ZachPruckowski: it's basic
[10:07] <Xera> compared to firefox
[10:07] <ZachPruckowski> I use it in my VM, and I use Safari in real life
[10:07] <Tox> yes , i'm talkin about file browser
[10:08] <Xera> or even opera
[10:08] <daing> Dr_Willis: Oh, im running 6.10, BTW.
[10:08] <daing> Dr_Willis: in case it matters
[10:08] <Tox> i browser for me is opera - n1, next firefox
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> daing,  not as far as ive seen.
[10:08] <ZachPruckowski> I guess I don't notice because the Linux VM is single-purpose
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> daing,  try sudo ls /boot
[10:08] <Xera> anyone in here got php-gtk working?
[10:08] <sukh> anyone know how to disable the bouncing mouse icon?
[10:08] <Xera> sukh: um, in theme settings
[10:08] <Xera> i think
[10:09] <daing> ohh, wait... hold on
[10:09] <Xera> kcontrol > themes
[10:09] <sukh> its not there
[10:09] <Xera> hmm
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> mouse feedback/launch feedback is the bouncing mouse isent it.
[10:09] <Tox> can't find kmenu :) where is it :)
[10:09] <Xera> Tox: o.o?!?!
[10:09] <Xera> click the kde icon on your task bar
[10:09] <Xera> normally on the left
[10:10] <Tox> !paste <fdoving> Tox: you can find a list, with some descriptions at kmenu -> system -> kinfocenter -> protocols.
[10:10] <Xera> uh?
[10:10] <daing> Dr_Willis: nevermind, i was outside my environment, like an idiot
[10:13] <phillijw> how do I know if i'm on edgy, dapper or breezy
[10:13] <phillijw> just look at my sources?
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:14] <phillijw> 6.06 dapper
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: aptitude show libc6 | awk '/Version/ {printf "%s\n", $2}'
[10:14] <phillijw> when I installed kubuntu i didnt have an internet connection... now my sources.list is commented out
[10:15] <phillijw> can I make it auto generate a new one?
[10:15] <Hak5fan> Hello
[10:15] <phillijw> hello hak point five fan
[10:16] <Hak5fan> I just wanted to say that I'm very happy with kubuntu
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> for i in dapper{,-updates,-security}; do echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $i main restricted multiverse universe"; done
[10:16] <Hak5fan> It's great
[10:16] <Phre1> ya I love it myself
[10:16] <Phre1> just got back into the linux scene
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: that will give you the 3 lines you need
[10:16] <Phre1> installed it on my MSI MegaBook S270
[10:16] <Phre1> works awesome
[10:16] <Hak5fan> ok
[10:17] <Phre1> now if I can only upgrade  video drivers without killing my install :)
[10:17] <Hak5fan> I havn't finetuned it yet though
[10:17] <phillijw> lol. I cant belive you just wrote a shellscript to do hat
[10:18] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: so it can fit on one line
[10:19] <phillijw> do you suggest I stay on dapper or is that insecure?
[10:19] <Hak5fan> I'm new to linux, but I know the essensial things
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: dapper is supported with security updates before edgy
[10:20] <phillijw> ok
[10:20] <phillijw> i always forget this stuff
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> Its the long term support version
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> If you are not bothered for the new features in edgy then stay with dapper
[10:21] <phillijw> ok
[10:21] <Hak5fan> I'm going to try to install my video drivers now, brb everybody
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> phillijw: as long as you have updates and security in sources.list and update periodically you will be fine
[10:21] <phillijw> sure thig
[10:22] <phillijw> thing
[10:22] <jakub_> does anybody know how to set up (k)ubuntu for Eduroam, wireless european university network?
[10:24] <Xera> would anyone mind pointing me in the right direction of php-config?
[10:24] <Xera> and if you're wondering what i mean, i'm trying to install php-gtk, and when i run configure i get "Please use the --with-php-config option to specify the location of php-config for the required version."
[10:24] <phillijw> how do I make it so my clock is not in military time
[10:24] <phillijw> thats annoying as hell
[10:25] <Xera> lol
[10:25] <Xera> right click > date and time format
[10:25] <phillijw> i did that... do I need to restart x?
[10:25] <tobias_> hey you guys
[10:25] <Xera> phillijw: no you shouldn't have to
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> set the time format. then either log out/back in... or theres some other command taht can do it.
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> and yes - its annoying.
[10:26] <tobias_> i have a problem with my nvidia graphics card
[10:26] <Xera> Dr_Willis: lolz, how is it annoying?
[10:26] <tobias_> i installed the driver and so on but it just won't find the card
[10:26] <Xera> oh and something for the lazy people who can't read a 24h clock, right click > type > fuzzy
[10:26] <Xera> shows it as "Twenty five past nine"
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Xera,  if i set the clock format to 12 hr.. i shouldent have to do anything to make it actually do it. :) i know the whole 'running apps wont see the changes.. but its annoying'
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> of course i dont see why it defaults to 24hr format in the first place.
[10:27] <hak5fan> Hi again... I just installed my video drivers and evrything still works woho
[10:27] <Xera> well, why does gnome have a refresh function but kde doesn't? >:(
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> what does it refersh>
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> refresh?
[10:28] <Xera> uh
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> Gnome = feet = stinky?
[10:28] <Xera> the "kicker"
[10:28] <Xera> or w/e
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> the panels?
[10:28] <Xera> well, it reloads the menu and stuff
[10:28] <Xera> icons, menus, taskbar
[10:29] <uiop> hello does anyone know how to configure an usb wifi dongle hercules under kubuntu?
[10:29] <Xera> but in kde when an app adds itself to the menu, u have to restart X
[10:29] <Xera> :(
[10:29] <Morbo> You do?  /me hadn't noticedthat
[10:29] <Xera> i do
[10:29] <Minataku> Morbo... what's that from?
[10:29] <phillijw> that, 24h clock and having to restart X for menus are the most annoying things
[10:29] <Minataku> Damn my memory >.<
[10:29] <Morbo> Futurama, Minataku
[10:29] <Minataku> THAT'S IT
[10:29] <Minataku> :D
[10:29] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[10:30] <Xera> phillijw: if you can't read a 24h clock go back to school
[10:30] <Morbo> Heh.
[10:30] <Xera> ;)
[10:30] <Minataku> It wasn't a memory error, it was a terrible brainfart XD
[10:30] <phillijw> I can, but I shouldnt have to
[10:30] <Xera> well most of the world uses 24h clocks
[10:30] <Xera> lol
[10:30] <Minataku> phillijw is right
[10:30] <Minataku> I hate 24h clocks
[10:30] <Xera> lazy
[10:30] <Xera> :D
[10:30] <phillijw> i think i'm bright enough to know that its either night or day
[10:30] <tobias_> mhh can't anyone help me with my graphic-card ?
[10:30] <phillijw> i can differentiate between 2am and 2pm
[10:30] <Morbo> I set as many things as possible to 24h if only to annoy everyody else
[10:30] <hak5fan> why... I see no reason to hate them
[10:31] <Minataku> I was raised using 12h, I don't think in 24h
[10:31] <Tm_T> phillijw: Well, let's meet you at 6.
[10:31] <daing> Is there a trick to have font aliasing in kubuntu>
[10:31] <daing> ?
[10:31] <Minataku> Kind of like how I was raised using English and therefore don't think in Spanish
[10:31] <phillijw> Tm_T: then it turns into a limit problem. it is approaching dark
[10:31] <Morbo> Except numbers are numbers :p
[10:31] <phillijw> or approaching light
[10:31] <Hirvinen> phillijw: I think I'm bright enough to only need one reference point instead of midnight *and* noon.
[10:31] <Minataku> Same difference, really, Spanish or a 24h clock, I have to translate to process
[10:32] <Tm_T> Heh.
[10:32] <phillijw> maybe kubuntu should default its money units in Yen
[10:32] <mundisko> hi, does anyone know good recovery program for damaged dvds and cds on kubuntu ??
[10:32] <Minataku> phillijw: What's up, I just came in?
[10:32] <guest_> hello
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> how damaged?
[10:33] <phillijw> i dont konw
[10:33] <guest_> how are you ??
[10:33] <phillijw> i'm just whining about the difficulty of chainging from 24h to 12h clock
[10:33] <tobias_> argh
[10:33] <Minataku> That should be easy
[10:33] <mundisko> i can watch ca. 35 % of movie and then it stops
[10:33] <phillijw> SHOULD BE = key word
[10:33] <w0jtas> hi! why kde don't add new styles to kcontrol ??
[10:33] <tobias_> does anyone know how i make my fucking graphic card working ?
[10:33] <Minataku> I do it every time I boot up Knoppix
[10:33] <guest_> what are you doing ??
[10:33] <mundisko> dvd is scratched
[10:33] <Minataku> !language | tobias_
[10:33] <ubotu> tobias_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:34] <Morbo> !nvidia | tobias_
[10:34] <ubotu> tobias_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:34] <Minataku> I understand that computer issues can be frustrating but you have to keep your cool
[10:34] <phillijw> anyone use cpu throttling?
[10:34] <coreymon77> does anyone here know of a frostwire irc channel, the chat function doesnt work
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> try #frostwire ?
[10:34] <revolution27> i'm having nVidia problems too
[10:34] <Morbo> I use the automatic non-userspace flavor, phillijw
[10:35] <uiop> hello , does someone speaking french here?
[10:35] <Minataku> !fr | uiop
[10:35] <ubotu> uiop: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:35] <Morbo> !fr | uiop
[10:35] <phillijw> Morbo: oh, mind giving me a very breif explanation of what that means?
[10:35] <uiop> thanks a lot
[10:35] <Minataku> np
[10:35] <revolution27> after I installed beryl, my nvidia drivers stopped working
[10:35] <phillijw> basically I just want to know how I should have mine set for a laptop that generally is plugged in
[10:36] <Minataku> phillijw: You mean "off"? ;e
[10:36] <Minataku> *;3
[10:36] <Morbo> phillijw- I'd keep it at the default
[10:36] <Morbo> That will keep it cooler too, remember
[10:36] <phillijw> ok, well, i just had it unplugged for a while and it died really fast
[10:37] <phillijw> eh whatever. im not too worried. now how do I fix this clock?
[10:37] <juano__> where can i change keyboard language ?
[10:37] <Morbo> I'm not expert.  I just left it as it is
[10:38] <Morbo> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse, juano__
[10:38] <Minataku> phillijw: There should be an option via KDE to change it
[10:38] <Morbo> er, regional and language, i mean
[10:38] <Morbo> Select keyboard layout from there
[10:38] <phillijw> there is.. and I changed it... and it still shows up as military time
[10:38] <phillijw> i guess i'll try logging out
[10:38] <juano__> Morbo: no language option there
[10:39] <crazyrobot> you have to restart the x server for the time to change.
[10:39] <Morbo> juano__- Did you see my correction?
[10:39] <Minataku> I haven't used KDE in ages by now >.<
[10:39] <juano__> oh.. Morbo
[10:39] <juano__> Morbo: let me check now
[10:39] <Morbo> Sorry about that :)
[10:40] <Minataku> Sorry if I'm being a bit disagreeable, I had a heck of a time setting something up a bit earlier
[10:40] <Minataku> lol
[10:40] <Morbo> What was that?
[10:40] <slougi> hi everyone. are there any alsa gurus around?
[10:40] <Minataku> Morbo: Well, first, a 19" Sun monitor is _really heavy_
[10:41] <Morbo> lol
[10:41] <Minataku> Second, swapping two drives to find it doesn't work and you have to undo it all would piss off anyone
[10:41] <Morbo> I assume you meant some nasty driver install
[10:41] <phillijw> hw problems are way more frustrating
[10:41] <Minataku> I'm actually a Gentoo user, everything goes really nice and easy for me
[10:41] <Minataku> lol
[10:41] <juano__> Morbo: thanks, gotta install language first though
[10:41] <Morbo> :)
[10:42] <w0jtas> hi! why kde don't add new styles to kcontrol ??
[10:42] <Morbo> I've been having problems with DVD/CD icons on the desktop.  Instead of displaying the disc's title, it shows "cdrom#"
[10:43] <Morbo> I asked in KDE, and they suggested it was a problem with dbus or hal, but it works fine under Gnome
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Morbo,  look in media:/  and see if they show up there by name
[10:43] <Morbo> Dr_Willis- Same problem thrre
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> i cant even rember the last time i watched a real dvd. ;)
[10:43] <juano__> Morbo: have you tried mounting with another name?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> if you just ut the dvd in the drive.. do you really need its name on the desktop :)
[10:44] <juano__> Dr_Willis: :)
[10:44] <Morbo> pfft.  I like things looking pretty :p
[10:44] <Morbo> juano__- As in?
[10:44] <mase> how do i install sshd on kubuntu
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> !info ssh
[10:44] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[10:44] <juano__> Morbo: like trying sudo mkdir /media/mycdname
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ssh
[10:45] <juano__> Morbo: and then mounting it there
[10:45] <mase> indeed
[10:46] <mase> !info sshd
[10:46] <ubotu> Package sshd does not exist in any distro I know
[10:46] <mase> how do i get ssh up and running
[10:46] <mase> after installed
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> it should be running once it isnalls
[10:46] <juano__> mase: type ssh?
[10:46] <mase> oh
[10:46] <Morbo> I'll try that, juano__
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> ssh 101 - day 1, class 1
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:47] <mase> ssh gives me a bunch of options
[10:47] <juano__> Morbo: yea.. it could do the trick... though probably it would be good to add the whole mount line to your fstab, except thatll work for one cd i guess, your gonna have the same name for all the rest
[10:48] <juano__> Morbo: thats not what you want i think :P
[10:48] <mase> well
[10:48] <mase> how do i know its working?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> ssh localhost
[10:48] <juano__> mase: its installed if you ssh and it gives options
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> it MAY be worth wile to read a ssh tutorial or 2
[10:48] <juano__> mase: man ssh
[10:49] <mase> ic
[10:49] <mase> so people can only connect to me with putty
[10:49] <mase> not telnet right
[10:50] <tobias_> i installed my video-card driver but it still won#t display my video card
[10:50] <phillijw> so i download the bwxx-fwcutter and in the readme it gives me like 50 links for the drivers I need to use to create the firmware. but it doesnt tell me which one I need to download
[10:51] <sirprof> hi leute
[10:51] <juano__> Morbo: still now change in keyboard
[10:51] <juano__> Morbo: no*
[10:51] <Morbo> Dr_Willis- Correction: it does work fine under media:/
[10:51] <Morbo> I misplaced the / :p
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Morbo,  heh heh
[10:52] <YumeNoEien> hello everyone
[10:52] <tobias_> mhh i need to go bye bye
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> theres a bit of a history about media:/ and /media
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> some apps dont like media:/
[10:52] <Kyral> And while media:/ is a KIOSlave
[10:53] <Kyral> /media is part of the FHS
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> is there a porn:// ?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:56] <phillijw> stupid firmware
[10:56] <phillijw> my card shows up as a 4306 now...
[10:56] <juano__> how do i change keyboard language?
[10:58] <sinbad33> is there a porn:// ?   HAHAHA
[10:59] <sinbad33> anyone know how to change the bootsplash screen ??
[10:59] <sinbad33> the very first splash during bootup
[11:00] <sinbad33> cant stand blue :( reminds me too much of MS
[11:01] <phillijw> this damn broadcom driver wont work properly
[11:01] <phillijw> ndiswrapper would be so much easier at this point
[11:02] <obe> ho 1 problema....kubuntu nn mi vede il mio ipod nano...sapete come aiutarmi??
[11:03] <Tm_T> !it
[11:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:03] <sleepy495> can I load a kubuntu kde theme and use emerald theme at the same time?
[11:03] <Tm_T> I keep wondering why italians expect rest of the world understand them.
[11:04] <obe> sorry..
[11:05] <joshy> has anyone experiences with XEN
[11:05] <juano__> how do i change keyboard language?
[11:05] <phillijw> juano__: someone already told you
[11:07] <juano__> phillijw: well its not working
[11:11] <obe> xcuse me...my kubuntu can't display my ipod nano...can you help me??
[11:14] <w0jtas> hi! why kde don't add new styles to kcontrol ??
[11:14] <jimmie> obe: same format of the database ?
[11:15] <Xera> configure: error: PHP-GTK 2.x requires GLib 2.6.0 or higher
[11:15] <obe> i dont know..
[11:15] <Xera> god, i just installed that
[11:15] <Xera> :@
[11:15] <Xera> where is glib2.6.0 installed by default?
[11:20] <jimmie> obe: try to find out, cause sometimes KDE may have problems with NTSF or other file formats ...
[11:20] <revolution27> Ok i'll try one more time... When I installed beryl my nvidia graphics drives stopped working. I know this because games run very slow. When i try to install nvidia-glx, i get this http://pastebin.com/858610
[11:22] <jimmie> try to save your iPOD harddisc in a UNIX harddisc-format , after that restore it with your itunes, otherwise if you're using the ipod only with your running unix system format is to your unix format
[11:22] <obe> ok
[11:22] <jimmie> wait
[11:22] <obe> ok
[11:22] <jimmie> the problem is, that you may can't connect to any windows platform anymore...
[11:23] <jimmie> thats the prob
[11:23] <joshy> revolution27: I've also had problems with beryl & nvidia
[11:23] <revolution27> did you fix them?
[11:24] <obe> no...i have a shared hd with win xp...kde don't have problems to ride and execute files in the ntfs partition..
[11:24] <joshy> revolution27: Yes: look @ http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Beryl?highlight=%28beryl%29
[11:24] <revolution27> thanks i'll check it out
[11:24] <joshy> np
[11:25] <jimmie> than you may try out...
[11:25] <jimmie> safe your stuff, till it gets lost
[11:26] <malik_> how do i make firefox to open all pop ups and links which open new windows, in new tabs instead of new windows?
[11:26] <jimmie> look @ properties
[11:26] <phillijw> why isnt ndiswrapper int he repos :(
[11:27] <obe> ok
[11:27] <obe> tnx
[11:27] <sinbad33> anyone know if there are any problems associated with simultaneous connection of a kubuntu box & an xp box thru the same switch ?
[11:27] <phillijw> malik_: that is a firefox setting...
[11:27] <LeeJunFan> sinbad33: unless they both have the same IP and or MAC addy - no.
[11:28] <revolution27> umm joshy is there an english version of that page?
[11:28] <sinbad33> different mac addys, not sure about ips
[11:29] <malik_> where can i find it in settings coz my setting is set to tabs but still some links when i click on them they open new windows instead of tabs
[11:30] <sinbad33> does my xp box compromise my kub box securitywise in any way?
[11:30] <Kyral> nope
[11:30] <sinbad33> good thx
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> sinbad33: only if your XP box has some type of unathenticated link to the kubuntu box, if you are sharing your kubuntu disks to XP, or you have an ssh key on XP to allow no password logins to kubuntu.
[11:32] <sinbad33> anyone know if its possible to change my konq browser font color? already played around with font type/size etc, but cudnt find font color
[11:32] <Xera> MY GOD gtk stuff is so f*cked up
[11:32] <Xera> *** Glib 2.9.1 or better is required. The latest version of
[11:32] <Xera> *** Glib is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/.
[11:32] <joshy> revolution27: sry but I don't find an en version
[11:32] <Tox> hi is there any tool to install source automatically or directly from gzip ?
[11:32] <Xera> installing "pango"
[11:32] <Tox> i mean with GUI
[11:32] <joshy> revolution27: maybe this site helps: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[11:33] <sinbad33> Lee, not that i know of, im hoping xp doesnt quietly try to setup its own default link to my kub box
[11:33] <sinbad33> ms being so darn sneaky n all
[11:34] <sinbad33> does kubuntu have a device manager?
[11:35] <h3sp4wn> Not really
[11:35] <Kyral> Device Manager?
[11:35] <Kyral> Define
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> its a spec for feisty though
[11:36] <Xera> would someone guide me through installing gtk/glib/pango?
[11:37] <sinbad33> a menu which tells u if all your devices are working right
[11:37] <Kyral> ...its kinda obvious when they ain't...
[11:38] <Kr4t05> Hrm... is there any good FOSS voice recognition software?
[11:39] <sinbad33> are there any good music light organ plugins for kubuntu?
[11:39] <sinbad33> xmms
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> You want something to play a midi file ? and sound like an organ ?
[11:42] <joshy> sinbad33: *lol* xD
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> sinbad33: I don't know what you are adking
[11:44] <MPat> noob question. Please help if you can.
[11:44] <MPat> How can I add app to start in startup with out login?
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> !noob
[11:44] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> MPat: depends what the app is
[11:45] <MPat> forexample gqcam?
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> what is that
[11:46] <MPat> simple webcam prog based on gtk
[11:46] <h3sp4wn> Can it run just in the cli then ?
[11:47] <MPat> cli?
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> You want it to start before you login
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> !cli
[11:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:47] <MPat> yes
[11:47] <h3sp4wn> to which question
[11:48] <MPat> if I want to start from terminal (remote) it tryes X11forwarding
[11:48] <balance> hello
[11:48] <MPat> h3sp4wn You want it to start before you login
[11:49] <linux-mac> im firt times on linux any one here for help?
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> I only have command line apps that run at bootup
[11:49] <MPat> ok, I think I try to work it out other way. Thx
[11:49] <linux-mac> can i ask u h3 for help or mpat?
[11:50] <linux-mac> id like to know if i nead any antivirus or antispy just to be sure whit kubuntu?
[11:50] <linux-mac> do u know mpat?
[11:50] <MPat> some but I dont use atleast
[11:51] <linux-mac> witch is the best antivirus for linux?
[11:51] <killown> how I do to view apps install?
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> MPat: Its easy enough for it to be run once you login
[11:52] <linux-mac> btw im just asking if u advise me just to keep the antiroot kit adept gives u or put some antivirus and antispy on kubuntu to?
[11:52] <linux-mac> h3 tell me yours to
[11:53] <Kr4t05> killown: Adpet
[11:53] <Kr4t05> killown: Adept*
[11:53] <linux-mac> they told me linux btw is safe 99% from spyware and virus
[11:54] <linux-mac> so what do u advise me ?
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> linux-mac: no need for one if you keep security updates applied
[11:54] <Kr4t05> linux-mac: This is true, for the most part. Just be sensible as to what you do.
[11:54] <linux-mac> ok thank u
[11:54] <MPat> linux-mac With Automatix2 you can install ClamAV and Guarddog, never used
[11:55] <linux-mac> another thing they sended me home the live cd of kubuntu 6.06 lts is the last version stable to install or i must use this one still?
[11:55] <barsanuphe_> hi
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> i have a grep related question
[11:56] <linux-mac> and id like to know to if kubuntu does everything or i nead to download last version
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> im trying to filter some lines, then filter out some of the selected lines
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> is there any way to do this with just one comman?
[11:56] <barsanuphe_> d
[11:57] <killown> thanks
[11:57] <MPat> linux-mac 6.10 latest stable you can dl it from kubuntu.org
[11:57] <barsanuphe_> linux-mac>you could install this version and then upgrade, but it would be easier to just dl the latest version
[11:58] <linux-mac> ok so ill make the iso dvd and then install last kubuntu back
[11:58] <barsanuphe_> so is there anyone who can help me with my problem?
[11:58] <Linux_Galore> o 0 (isn't 7.04 the latest)
[11:58] <linux-mac> they told me firefox has a bug that gives out passwords now same as ie 7 is that true couse i don't see opera in adept
[11:59] <barsanuphe_> galore > not the latest stable
[11:59] <Linux_Galore> barsanuphe_: yeah just saw that
[12:00] <todd_> need some help making sure my mozilla has java enabled, anyone?
[12:00] <linux-mac> beware everyone i heard that firefox has a password bug as ie 7 so what we must do use opera?
[12:00] <leiar> are there anyone who can tell me the righ way to get web-tv work? I've installed mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs, but I can still not watch web-TV. Mplayer starts loading and looks like it goes into a loop.
[12:01] <MPat> web-tv?
[12:01] <leiar> I run kubuntu dapper 6.0, firefox 1.5
[12:01] <intelikey> have oddity.   unused console enter a command then switch to another console and openvt -fc <the tty number of the one you entered "the command" in>   and "the command" will be ran in that console....    it's like the kernel holds that input until there is some place to send it.
[12:01] <leiar> Mpat: I want to watch TV on my laptop :-)
[12:01] <dawn> hello, I have a question. What is the easier way to import Outlook express emails into Thunderbird? Has anyone had any expeirence with this?
[12:01] <MPat> stream from webpage?
[12:02] <leiar> Mpat, yes, I guess..
[12:02] <dawn> test
[12:02] <todd_> dawn, I did this from Outlook
[12:02] <dawn> so have it
[12:02] <MPat> you have address'?
[12:02] <dawn> but I am going from windows to ubuntu
[12:02] <linux-mac> so im lost here is it true of this bug of mozilla firefox and ie 7 that gives out your passwords?
[12:02] <todd_> me too
[12:03] <dawn> ok, so what did you do?
[12:03] <dawn> I backed up my OE folder onto a USB drive
[12:03] <MPat> linux-mac, not  heard atleast
[12:03] <dawn> and tried to import directly from that
[12:03] <todd_> I had XP on one partition and kubuntu on another
[12:03] <linux-mac> u advise me it's better to use epifany pat?
[12:03] <dawn> but Thunderbird never gave me an option
[12:04] <malik_> how do i setup kontact to access yahoo mail?
[12:04] <linux-mac> im looking to use opera or epifany just trying to understand witch one is better then firefox
[12:04] <will> Hey
[12:04] <todd_> dawn, then while in XP, I started up T-bird and it took all the Outllok automatically
[12:04] <leiar> Mpat:http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/219180
[12:04] <will> I just bought a new videocard
[12:04] <linux-mac> hello
[12:04] <will> but kubuntu is still using my onboard sis
[12:04] <will> what do I do ?
[12:04] <dawn> hmmmm
[12:04] <linux-mac> will i got nvidia 7900 gs is that ok for kubuntu drivers?
[12:05] <dawn> that should'nt be no different then what I did
[12:05] <todd_> once I had T-bird in XP, make a back up
[12:05] <leiar> Mpat: It worked now. Don't know why. Been working with this some time this morning. But now it works just like that. Strange..
[12:05] <dawn> only difference yours was on a partition
[12:05] <dawn> and mine is on a USB key
[12:05] <will> I got a radeon 9250
[12:05] <todd_> then reboot into Kubuntu, load T-bird from the backup
[12:05] <malik_> opera is definitely better than any other if u r using windows but firefox2 now have all the opera features plus opera doesnt handle multimedia all that well in linux..........u shud use FF2 in linux
[12:05] <MPat> :);)
[12:05] <Tox> how to make kubuntu understand and found more than 3 mouse buttons ?
[12:05] <will> Im guessing I need to go into the bios and disable my sis
[12:05] <linux-mac> ok then the password bug of firefox and ie 7 must be for windows
[12:06] <Tox> i have a4tech x-718
[12:06] <will> Maybe I will do that
[12:06] <linux-mac> any one knows who to make the icon show on desk once u installed a program from adept or web?
[12:06] <aseigo> linux-mac: drag it from the k menu
[12:06] <aseigo> linux-mac: or you can right click on the desktop, add new -> etc ... bug DnD is the easiest =)
[12:06] <malik_> how do i setup kontact to access yahoo mail?
[12:07] <todd_> I had trouble with Kontact, now use T-bird
[12:07] <linux-mac> the problem is the program installed don't show if i don't reboot even on k menu
[12:07] <dawn> Thx todd, I will keep that as an option
[12:07] <leiar> malik: what do you mean?
[12:07] <dawn> evolution and t-bird are the best
[12:07] <dawn> I just have of yet to connect evolution to exchange
[12:08] <todd_> dawn, there ia also a program for converting
[12:08] <dawn> while it is resident on a XP machine
[12:08] <dawn> mozbackup is one I have used before
[12:08] <linux-mac> ok the problem here i install stuff whit adept or web but nead a reboot of pc to make em show on desk and menu
[12:08] <dawn> thunderstor is another, but alas those are windoze options
[12:08] <todd_> lemme look, be right back
[12:08] <linux-mac> is there a thing u must do in terminal to make em show whit out rebooting?
[12:09] <dawn> running evolution on windows seems kinda buggy
[12:09] <malik_> leiar: i want to use jontact to access my yahoo mail.......how do i do that?
[12:10] <linux-mac> any one knows how to make installed programs show on k menu' and desktop whit out the nead of pc restart?
[12:10] <leiar> malik: in t-bird?
[12:10] <tsdgeos> linux-mac: run kbuildsycoca
[12:10] <linux-mac> ok ill try in terminal
[12:10] <hermanni> can i play bf2 using linux
[12:11] <leiar> malik: haven't heard about jontact....
[12:11] <hermanni> :)
[12:11] <dawn> no but I heard one can play doom3
[12:11] <dawn> :)
[12:11] <malik_> leiar: i am using Kontact(mail client in edgy kubuntu 6.10with kde 3.5.5 ) to access gmail and it works like charm how do i make it to access yahoo mail too?
[12:11] <hermanni> dam
[12:12] <linux-mac> it says no database avaible tsdgeos
[12:12] <tsdgeos> linux-mac: that's normal
[12:12] <malik_> its called Kmail too
[12:12] <linux-mac> yes but still what i installed dosen't show anywhere why is that only if i reboot does
[12:12] <will> Hey! It worked
[12:12] <leiar> malik:just put in mail.yahoo.com as your mail server, I think..
[12:13] <linux-mac> on other distros like suse shows as u install very strange
[12:13] <fdoving> linux-mac: it's not given that it will show. you can install the package 'menu' if you want more apps in your menu.
[12:13] <todd_> dawn, there seems to be some good stuff when I googled for linux outlook to thunderbird backup, but since I haven't used that software, I'll just keep my advice to my experience; sorry
[12:13] <fdoving> linux-mac: that will make a Debian submenu in your kmenu, with more apps than the ones showing in the kmenu.
[12:14] <todd_> I need help with mozilla and java, anyone?
[12:14] <will> But kubuntu is still running a little laggy
[12:14] <will> Firefox man
[12:14] <linux-mac> well makes no sense u nead to reboot every time u install a program to make it show on k menu and desk no distro i ever seen does that
[12:14] <will> Why is it so choppy
[12:14] <will> ?


[10:47] <TLE> omg, if someone with a little experience in writing extensions for thunderbird, firefox and chrome feels like writing a automatic spell checker language switcher I'd definitely owe them an icecream, or beer, or a bunch of both
[10:50] <TLE> actually I don't need FF, I just imagine it is easy once the thunderbird one is done
[11:47] <davidcalle> kelemengabor, thanks for the branch!
[11:47] <kelemengabor> davidcalle: you are welcome :)
[11:51] <kelemengabor> dpm: in theory, indicator-printers has built a pot file during the last build yesterday: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/indicator-printers
[11:51] <kelemengabor> yet the import queue is empty: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/indicator-printers - what can be wrong here?
[11:52] <dpm> looking...
[11:52] <kelemengabor> thanks
[12:02] <dpm> hm, I can't think of anything obvious... I've built the package locally and it indeed creates the .pot file on build. And it seems to have been built yesterday: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-printers/+publishinghistory
[12:04] <dpm> ah, could it have to do with the fact that it was promoted from universe to main?
[12:04] <dpm> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-printers/+publishinghistory
[12:04] <dpm> I guess a new upload should fix it...
[12:07] <TLE> dpm: hey
[12:07] <dpm> heya TLE
[12:08] <TLE> have you tried using google docs for collaborative, simultanious note taking?
[12:08] <kelemengabor> dpm: oh, I see. thanks :)
[12:08] <kelemengabor> TLE: I did, it works
[12:08] <dpm> no worries, I've just asked pitti to confirm, but I think a new upload should do the trick
[12:09] <dpm> TLE, yes, it works quite well
[12:09] <TLE> all in favor say Aye
[12:09] <TLE> great then
[12:09] <kelemengabor> no color-by-author like with etherpad, but works
[12:09] <jokerdino> Aye
[12:09] <TLE> *G*
[12:10] <TLE> I just wanted to use whatever is the least amount of hasle
[12:10] <davidcalle> dpm, FYI, I'm writing the lens tutorial this afternoon.
[12:11] <dpm> davidcalle, ooooh that's awesome!
[12:11] <TLE> we all have google accounts, there also seems to be an etherpad instance in pad.ubuntu.com where I guess access is controlled by a login we also all have, but that page looks to be mostly for UDS
[12:11] <jokerdino> hey davidcalle, where is the right place to discuss the lens?
[12:11]  * dpm hugs davidcalle
[12:11] <davidcalle> jokerdino, #ubuntu-unity
[12:12] <TLE> also from what I could gather at the UDS, Etherpad has a bit of a reputation, but maybe that's just a problem when tons of people use it at the same time
[12:12] <jokerdino> it is regarding porting ask ubuntu lens to unity 5+
[12:12] <dpm> davidcalle, I can give you access to developer.ubuntu.com if you want to compose the tutorial directly there
[12:12] <davidcalle> jokerdino, I think it's being taken care of by teester (Mark Tully).
[12:12] <dpm> kelemengabor, :
 dpm: yes, sounds like it'll need a rebuild
 ok, thanks for confirming
 dpm, pitti: I can do a rebuild upload, will check with lars if he has any upload coming
[12:13] <davidcalle> dpm, oh, that would be nice, thanks.
[12:13] <dpm> davidcalle, ok, let me set that up. It works with SSO, I just need to set up an editors team in LP, give me a minute and we can test it.
[12:13] <jokerdino> davidcalle: oh, where do i follow the progress, if any?
[12:15] <davidcalle> jokerdino, if there is no branch for it on the lp project, you should check with him (he should be around #ubuntu-unity in the (european) evening). I'll ping him when I see him.
[12:20] <dpm> davidcalle, I think it's all set up now. You can try to log into http://developer.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/ with SSO and it should work. If it doesn't, let me know
[12:21] <jokerdino> ah great, thanks!
[12:23] <jokerdino> davidcalle: I found the relevant branch. thanks for the help!
[12:36] <davidcalle> dpm, working! Thanks :)
[12:36] <davidcalle> jokerdino, no problem
[12:38] <dpm> davidcalle, ah, excellent, let me know if you need any help. In short, Tutorials are "Pages" in the blog, but I think we should first create a "Post", get it published, promote the hell out of it and then move it to a "Page" along with the others. In short, what I wanted to say is that you should now have all the right permissions to write a "Post" :)
[12:39] <davidcalle> dpm, understood :)
[12:40] <dpm> davidcalle, just let me know when you've finished (or if there is anything I can help with in the meantime), and then we'll get it published. Ah, and a couple of tips for the Wordpress instance d.u.c. is running on:
[12:41] <dpm> - You can use Wordpress shortcodes to add syntax highlighting to code - here's the reference: http://en.support.wordpress.com/code/posting-source-code/
[12:42] <dpm> - Be careful with the HTML editor, it has a bad habit of reformatting source code pasted in the post - it can be a bit of a pain
[12:42] <dpm> Other than that, I guess you're familiar with Wordpress or similar
[12:43] <davidcalle> dpm, I'll ping you if I need help, but it should be fine.
[12:43] <dpm> excellent :)
[12:43] <dpm> and thanks a lot!
[12:44] <davidcalle> dpm, yw and sorry for the delay.
[12:44] <dpm> no worries, that's going to be extremely helpful for new lens authors!
[13:55] <davidcalle> kelemengabor, I have an issue with your video lens branch. It replaces video.lens with video.lens.in
[13:56] <davidcalle> kelemengabor, which breaks the lens.  Unity needs .lens files
[13:56] <kelemengabor> davidcalle: yes, but it is generated during the build
[13:57] <kelemengabor> and the string extraction needs the .in file
[13:57] <davidcalle> kelemengabor, ok then. (Not used to translations yes)
[14:16] <dpm> davidcalle, I'm looking at the community blueprints to update their status. You've got two actions for writing 2 tutorials (on json processing and on xml processing) - do you think you'll have time to write them this cycle? If not, it's fine, let me know and I'll mark them as postponed.  Or perhaps even better, mark one as postponed and change the other one to be the lenses tutorial. How does that sound?
[14:16] <dpm> [https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-app-developer-tutorial-growth]
[14:17] <davidcalle> dpm, it was a misunderstanding during the session : it's the lens tuto, that at the time could have contained bits of json/xml processing.
[14:17] <davidcalle> Forgot to fix it on the blueprint.
[14:17] <davidcalle> *uds session
[14:19] <davidcalle> dpm, the one I'm writing contains json parsing, anyway.
[14:20] <dpm> davidcalle, ah no worries. Blueprint updated, thanks :)
[15:42] <davidcalle> dpm, I will leave the tuto as a draft, and finish it when the quickly lens template is in the archive (apparently next week). Makes more sense to make the tuto with the quickly integration.
[15:44] <dpm> davidcalle, ok, makes sense. Do you know who's going to take care of publishing it in the archive? didrocks?
[15:44] <davidcalle> dpm, I suppose yes.
[15:44] <dpm> ok, cool


[14:33] <Garheade> morning yo
[15:54] <Garheade> mhall119: personal thought but when I was helping with Bodhi Linux documentation, dokuwiki became so overrun with spam that we just completely wrote it off and started fresh.
[15:56] <Garheade> mhall119: there was no way to cut it down either... Or at least, the leads couldn't make it happen.
[16:22] <mhall119> Garheade: couldn't it be prevented by requiring U1 logins?
[16:41] <Garheade> mhall119: probably.
[16:42] <Garheade> I was trying to reach out to the admin and see what he tried to do to lock it down so I could make an informed response...
[16:42] <Garheade> mhall119: ^
[17:10] <mhall119> ok, anything you can add to the mailinglist conversation about that would be appreciated


[08:05] <SlidingHorn> do y'all accept anti-google propaganda?  :P
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> SlidingHorn: the news guys mostly active at USA timezones
[08:19] <SlidingHorn> well whenever they're awake: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/22/google_chrome_browser_ad_content_block_change/
[08:20] <SlidingHorn> chromium might be disabling ad blockers
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[00:15] <Socah_> Anyone tried to run installer from aplha 4 livecd?
[00:16] <jtatum> Socah_: Yes
[00:16] <jtatum> Socah_: It worked for me...
[00:16] <Socah_> ubiquity crash installer for me, everytime when it copies files and goes to adding user
[00:17] <Socah_> and in fact liveusb is my only usable OS atm
[00:17] <jtatum> Hmm. Anything unusual about your user config? Fields filled out, utf-8 characters...?
[00:18] <Socah_> is there any other possibility to install it from liveusb? without using this installer
[00:18] <jtatum> Punctuation in your password perhaps?
[00:18] <Socah_> jtatum: I think there is nothing unusual
[00:18] <Socah_> my pass is numbers only
[00:18] <Socah_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/415109
[00:18] <ubot4> Socah_: Error: This bug is private
[00:19] <Socah_> ah
[00:19] <Socah_> now should be public
[00:21] <jtatum> Socah_: There are ways to install from the command line... It's pretty ugly though
[00:21] <jtatum> InstallStepError: UserSetupApply failed with code 1
[00:21] <Socah_> jtatum: apt-get and setting rootdir?
[00:21] <jtatum> Socah_: Exactly
[00:23] <jtatum> Socah_: Similar crashes have been reported several times, for instance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/258603
[00:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 258603 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashed with InstallStepError in configure_user()" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[00:24] <Socah_> in fact for 8.10
[00:24] <Socah_> a bit outdated I think
[00:24] <Socah_> "Using a different username fixes it."
[00:24] <Socah_> this can be useful
[00:25] <jtatum> Hopefully :)


[00:16] <harlowja> smoser https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/cloud-init-fix-dnf/+merge/298851 ok with u?
[00:16] <harlowja> one less redhat patch...
[14:36] <holser_> smoser: I have reviewed your recent refactoring of cc_mcollectived. I approved it.
[14:38] <smoser> holser_, great. i have some changes here to avoid the obnoxious testing of handle
[15:02] <smoser> holser_, did the changes make sense to you?
[15:02] <holser_> yes
[22:52] <simar> hey folks, I have question regarding hostname assignment using cloud-init.
[22:53] <simar> I tried creating a cloud-config within /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d in order to set the hostname and the fqdn for my host.
[22:53] <simar> But for some reason it didn't take effect after a reboot.
[22:54] <simar> Would I need the update_hostname module set in the cloud_init_modules as well for this?
[22:54] <simar> Open to other ways of doing this  if there are any.


[09:59] <SilverSpace> dan
[14:07] <jelly> huh https://imgur.com/gallery/niBybRh
[16:31] <ledeni> .weather melbourne,au
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[17:11] <jelly> pajebemti
[17:12] <jelly> prije dva tjedna jedan smrtni slucaj, sad skoro drugi
[17:12] <jelly> tetak; pa stric
[17:44] <SilverSpace> eh nece jedna nesreca sama
[17:44] <SilverSpace> uvijek dodu u koloni