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[07:40] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, can we have some haskell processing from binNEW queue?
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed/main) [3.13.0-125.174] (core, kernel)
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [3.13.0-125.174]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gdal [amd64] (artful-proposed) [2.2.1+dfsg-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-alsa-mixer [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-alsa-mixer [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-floatinghex [arm64] (artful-proposed) [0.4-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-floatinghex [i386] (artful-proposed) [0.4-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hashable-time [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hashable-time [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-integer-logarithms [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-integer-logarithms [armhf] (artful-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-integer-logarithms [s390x] (artful-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-alsa-mixer [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-floatinghex [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.4-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hashable-time [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hashable-time [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-integer-logarithms [i386] (artful-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-quickcheck-text [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-quickcheck-text [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-th-abstraction [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-th-abstraction [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-th-abstraction [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-alsa-mixer [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hashable-time [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-quickcheck-text [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-quickcheck-text [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-th-abstraction [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-uri-bytestring [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-uri-bytestring [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-uri-bytestring [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtvirtualkeyboard-opensource-src [arm64] (artful-proposed) [5.7.1+dfsg-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtvirtualkeyboard-opensource-src [i386] (artful-proposed) [5.7.1+dfsg-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-floatinghex [armhf] (artful-proposed) [0.4-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-quickcheck-text [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-uri-bytestring [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-uri-bytestring [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtvirtualkeyboard-opensource-src [armhf] (artful-proposed) [5.7.1+dfsg-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-integer-logarithms [arm64] (artful-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-uri-bytestring [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cppunit [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.14.0-2]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cppunit [armhf] (artful-proposed) [1.14.0-2]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cppunit [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [1.14.0-2]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-alsa-mixer [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha1 [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha1 [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha1 [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-floatinghex [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [0.4-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-th-abstraction [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cppunit [arm64] (artful-proposed) [1.14.0-2]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cppunit [s390x] (artful-proposed) [1.14.0-2]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha1 [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha1 [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hashable-time [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-quickcheck-text [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtvirtualkeyboard-opensource-src [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [5.7.1+dfsg-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtvirtualkeyboard-opensource-src [amd64] (artful-proposed) [5.7.1+dfsg-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-alsa-mixer [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-floatinghex [s390x] (artful-proposed) [0.4-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-th-abstraction [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cppunit [i386] (artful-proposed) [1.14.0-2]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-integer-logarithms [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha1 [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtvirtualkeyboard-opensource-src [s390x] (artful-proposed) [5.7.1+dfsg-1]
[08:21] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[08:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-md5 [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-md5 [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-md5 [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-md5 [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-md5 [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-md5 [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[08:34] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, pleeeeeeeeease ^^
[08:35] <cjwatson> we do these without prodding normally
[08:35] <cjwatson> done
[08:36] <LocutusOfBorg> I remember you having some semi-automatic script for doing them, I need this one for haskell-tls, that blocks a bunch of rebuilds, thanks!
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-md5 [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-md5 [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-md5 [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-md5 [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-md5 [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-md5 [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[08:38] <LocutusOfBorg> I would like to make it transition before Clint uploads new stuff in Debian :)
[09:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-hosc [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.15-1] (no packageset)
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-libmpd [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-hosc [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.15-1] (no packageset)
[09:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-libmpd [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-hosc [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.15-1] (no packageset)
[09:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-libmpd [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-libmpd [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-hosc [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.15-1] (no packageset)
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha256 [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-hosc [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.15-1] (no packageset)
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-hosc [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.15-1] (no packageset)
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hosc [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.15-1]
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hosc [armhf] (artful-proposed) [0.15-1]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hosc [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [0.15-1]
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[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hosc [s390x] (artful-proposed) [0.15-1]
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hosc [i386] (artful-proposed) [0.15-1]
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-libmpd [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] (no packageset)
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[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-libmpd [amd64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-libmpd [armhf] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-libmpd [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-libmpd [arm64] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-libmpd [s390x] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-libmpd [i386] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[10:16] <apw> xnox, are you aware of your copious adt failures in xenial for your systemd sru ?
[10:17] <xnox> apw, i am expecting some, i haven't started verfiying the bugs or the adt failures on xenial yet.
[10:18] <xnox> apw, i do know it fails with funky custom kernels.
[10:18] <xnox> and i have a plat to fix it (basically don't test things, which require modules that the funky kernel do not ship)
[10:18] <xnox> apw, e.g. http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/systemd/xenial/amd64
[10:20] <apw> xnox, i would be interested in what systemd wants to be using which those kernels are not supplying, as that sounds wrong to me
[10:21] <xnox> apw, scsi_debug kernel module or some such
[10:21] <apw> xnox, that sounds like something we might really want on those kernels for testing purposes
[10:21] <apw> xnox, have we had a bug on that ?
[10:21] <apw> (i feel we did for -azure or something and turned it back on)
[10:24] <xnox> there was a bug, which got waved away, because i thought it needs to be a dynamic module to constantly unload and reload with different parameters
[10:24] <xnox> i can open a new one.
[10:24] <xnox> with details.
[10:32] <apw> xnox, that might be true, that it has to be builtin for some reason which would stop that working
[10:32] <apw> xnox, best to get it documented so i don't ask you again :)
[10:36] <infinity> apw: I don't think we ever brought it to your team formally, but I kinda figured bloating the "slim" kernel packages with debug modules wasn't a thing we'd want.
[10:36] <infinity> (Unless said modules are an effective QA tool for the kernel itself)
[10:36] <apw> if they are just modules, and it is that one module, and it lets us have some testing ...
[10:36] <infinity> apw: Well yes, just modules, but the cloud kernels are concerned both with vmlinux size/speed and with overall package/image size, I thought?
[10:37] <infinity> (Otherwise, they'd have allmodconfig)
[10:38] <apw> infinity, they are, but we are also concerned about QA'ing them... so it is a trade off we should be conciously making for these cases and documenting
[10:38] <infinity> apw: Either way, it's poor form for the systemd tests to explode if the module isn't there, so doing a "modinfo && modprobe || exit 0" is still appropriate, IMO.
[10:38] <apw> infinity, that too, but "you don't want to do that"
[10:38] <infinity> I don't?
[10:39] <apw> (standard response from upstream about why it doesn't do that already)
[10:39] <apw> (just saving some time in reporting it)
[10:39] <infinity> Oh, ISWYM. :P
[10:40] <xnox> apw, we actually do that sort of thing in ./debian/tests/ and filter upstream tests to run already.
[10:40] <xnox> there is enough bullshit tests as it is =)
[10:40] <infinity> The only argument against would be if you believe the systemd tests should be responsible for testing of mod_scsi_debug is installed correctly, which I'd argue isn't their job.
[10:40] <apw> indeed
[10:40] <infinity> s/testing of/testing if/
[11:17] <ginggs> hi, facter and freedombox-setup autopkgtests on armhf need to be retried against bind9/1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-10.1ubuntu7 but autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi doesn't seem to like bind9's version in a trigger
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxterminal (zesty-proposed/universe) [0.3.0-1ubuntu0.1 => 0.3.0-1ubuntu0.2] (no packageset)
[11:23] <apw> ginggs, in the sense it says it is an error ?
[11:24] <apw> have you URL escaped the version enough?
[11:32] <Laney> ginggs: I fixed it https://git.launchpad.net/autopkgtest-cloud/commit/?id=46e645dda67925ab11ce0f6a818c8d1defa1c92b
[11:32] <Laney> and retried facter - you can test with the other one
[11:39] <ginggs> Laney: fixed, thanks! freedombox-setup test request submitted
[11:40] <ginggs> ah, it was the P in 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-10.1ubuntu6 it didn't like
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libseccomp (trusty-proposed/main) [2.2.3-2ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1 => 2.1.1-1ubuntu1~trusty4] (core)
[11:46] <Laney> PpPpP
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libseccomp [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.1.1-1ubuntu1~trusty4]
[12:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ntp [sync] (zesty-proposed) [1:4.2.8p9+dfsg-2ubuntu1.1]
[12:28] <apw> ^ shadowed by a security update and already replaced in the queue
[12:56] <xnox> Laney, i am confused about britney now.
[12:56] <xnox> trying: systemd libmicrohttpd greenbone-security-assistant kodi ola janus yubikey-server-c openzwave-controlpanel psensor bfgminer libjson-rpc-cpp nageru gnunet opensips
[12:56] <xnox> skipped: systemd libmicrohttpd greenbone-security-assistant kodi ola janus yubikey-server-c openzwave-controlpanel psensor bfgminer libjson-rpc-cpp nageru gnunet opensips (27, 25, 7)
[12:56] <xnox>     got: 2+0: a-1:a-0:a-0:i-0:p-0:s-1
[12:56] <xnox>     * s390x: pcp-webapi
[12:56] <xnox>     - splitting the component into single items and retrying them
[12:56] <xnox> however, it all installs fine.
[12:56] <xnox> i've tried now in the sbuild chroot and install _all_ packages from that set works, including the pcp-webapi
[12:58] <LocutusOfBorg> on s390x^
[12:59] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe it is uninstallable on that arch only
[13:00] <LocutusOfBorg> or maybe pcp is blocked by perl (not considered), so it can't migrate :)
[13:00] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, ^^ this one
[13:00] <xnox> right, not considered.
[13:01] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry for that :( I feel guilty
[13:01] <LocutusOfBorg> s/feel/am
[13:01] <xnox> well, i guess i can build pcp against old perl to make it migrate the lighttpd transition
[13:02] <LocutusOfBorg> and no-change rebuild after it migrates?
[13:02] <LocutusOfBorg> seems sane enough :)
[13:02] <xnox> yes.
[13:42] <Laney> xnox: pcp-webapi : Depends: libmicrohttpd10 (>= 0.9.35) but it is not installable
[13:42] <Laney> it's because of perl
[13:44] <xnox> ack.
[13:44] <Laney> why do you think that rebuilding will work?
[13:48] <LocutusOfBorg> rebuilding libmicrohttpd with a forced perl from -release should work
[13:49] <LocutusOfBorg> and then no-change rebuild again
[13:49]  * LocutusOfBorg didn't look closely
[13:49] <Laney> I don't understand why it would
[13:50] <Laney> but maybe I'm missing something
[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libvirt [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.3.1-1ubuntu10.11]
[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libvirt [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.5.0-3ubuntu5.3]
[13:50] <apw> ^ replaced in the queue by a later upload ...
[13:51] <LocutusOfBorg> because it would be unentangled from perl?
[13:51] <LocutusOfBorg> not even sure if that word exists
[14:01] <cjwatson> "disentangled" normally
[14:04] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks, seems better indeed
[14:12] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: I think that all excuses that show up in Depends have to be valid regardless of any versioning, but maybe I'm wrong.
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.2.14-0ubuntu1~17.04.1]
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.2.14-0ubuntu1~16.10.1]
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.2.14-0ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted walinuxagent [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.2.14-0ubuntu1~14.04.1]
[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (trusty-proposed/partner) [1:20170616.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (yakkety-proposed/partner) [1:20170616.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (xenial-proposed/partner) [1:20170616.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (zesty-proposed/partner) [1:20170616.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-image [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.1+17.04ubuntu1]
[15:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-image [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.1+16.10ubuntu1]
[15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adobe-flashplugin [source] (trusty-proposed) [1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adobe-flashplugin [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adobe-flashplugin [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted adobe-flashplugin [source] (zesty-proposed) [1:20170711.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:48] <slangasek> bdmurray: I notice the SRU tooling in ubuntu-archive-tools now has some inconsistent defaulting of series (xenial vs. yakkety vs. zesty).  Do you agree that these should all default now to zesty?
[16:48] <slangasek> (queuediff; sru-remove; sru-review; kernel-sru-review)
[16:49] <slangasek> and gee it would be nice if we could use distro-data for this
[16:49] <apw> slangasek, perhaps they should just not default at all
[16:49] <bdmurray> slangasek: yes, defaulting to zesty makes sense
[16:49] <bdmurray> apw: but it saves you typing with sru-review at least!
[16:50] <infinity> Traditionally, they all defaulted to the latest stable, but I'm sort of with apw that defaults don't make sense.
[16:50] <infinity> The series arguments should probably just be mandatory.
[16:50] <apw> half the time not so much
[16:51] <slangasek> well if you don't think the default should exist, that means there's no chance you'll care if I change it ;)
[16:51] <bdmurray> I guess being deliberate could avoid errors
[16:51] <slangasek> I tend not to use the default
[16:51] <infinity> slangasek: I don't mind if you fix the current state to match the tradition of defaulting to the latest stable.
[16:51] <infinity> That doesn't change my statement that maybe we should nix the defaults entirely and make the argument mandatory. :P
[16:52] <infinity> Given we process SRUs for several series, and except for immediately after a release, the volume to "latest stable" isn't statistically high enough to warrant a default.
[16:52] <slangasek> sru-release deals with this by making it a positional argument, and I hate that inconsistency ;)
[16:53] <infinity> I prefer the positional argument, probably just because less typing.
[16:53] <bdmurray> infinity, slangasek: While you are "here" I noticed and fixed https://ubu.one/upgY2Z to not say to use the "-d" switch when upgrading from Y to Z.
[16:53] <infinity> But yes, consistency there would be nice too.
[16:53] <infinity> bdmurray: Oh, thanks!
[16:53] <infinity> bdmurray: Did older ones have that bug too?
[16:53] <apw> slangasek, i have seriously considered adding -s to sru-release _too_
[16:53] <slangasek> apw: as have I
[16:54] <apw> and likely will yet
[16:54] <infinity> I don't mind if they're all -s or all positional, but consistency would be nice.  I prefer positional, but meh.
[16:54] <slangasek> it follows logically that if we're not going to have a default that it should be positional
[16:54] <infinity> Probably because copy-proposed-kernel and sru-release are both positional, and I used both those tools a lot more than the others.
[16:54] <slangasek> but I'm not sold on this
[16:54] <bdmurray> infinity: looks like they do I wonder if there is a template somewhere
[16:55] <infinity> bdmurray: They're just copied forward AFAIK.
[16:55] <slangasek> infinity: you should stop using copy-proposed-kernel and use kernel-sru-review instead, I've landed all of sil2100's changes to support your use case :)
[16:55] <infinity> bdmurray: So the bug could go back years.
[16:55] <slangasek> infinity: btw did you catch my comment the other day about glibc being newer in zesty-security than in artful?
[16:55] <infinity> slangasek: I caught it when I came to last night, yeah.
[16:56] <slangasek> k. should we just do a binary copy-forward?
[16:56] <infinity> slangasek: I couple copy the zesty-updates version directly to artful-release if it's a concern.  New builds of glibc in artful are currently blocked on https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21725
[16:56]  * slangasek nods
[16:57] <infinity> I couple copy?  WTF, fingers?
[16:57] <infinity> I could copy.
[16:58] <flocculant> fingers are overrated
[16:58] <infinity> Mine have this nasty habit of, a few chars into a word, going "OMG, C-O-U, I KNOW A WORD THAT STARTS WITH THOSE LETTERS!!" and finishing an entirely different word.
[16:59] <nacc> courgette?
[16:59] <infinity> I'd suggest my fingers were programmed by Apple, but I've yet to call someone a ducking idiot on IRC, so it's probably not that.
[17:00] <nacc> heh
[17:02] <sil2100> slangasek: thanks for merging those in!
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-image [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.1+16.04ubuntu1]
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libqtpas [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.6~beta-3] (no packageset)
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libqtpas [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.6~beta-3] (no packageset)
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libqtpas [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.6~beta-3] (no packageset)
[17:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libqtpas [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.6~beta-3] (no packageset)
[17:40] <infinity> slangasek: Yo, you removed grafana but not its rdeps.
[17:40] <slangasek> wut
[17:40] <infinity> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/artful_uninst.txt
[17:41] <slangasek> I mean, I know I removed grafana
[17:41] <slangasek> but I don't do that without looking at the output of process-removals
[17:43] <infinity> slangasek: Curious.  reverse-depends shows zabbix for me (well, when called with -r zesty, since it won't work on artful anymoe)
[17:44] <infinity> slangasek: Anyhow, can probably just demote-to-proposed, since it can't possibly migrate back until a working grafana appears.
[17:44] <slangasek> infinity: yeah, it could simply be a matter of me having misread while clicking through a dozen-plus prompts
[17:44] <slangasek> agreed re: demote-to-proposed; are you doing or shall I?
[17:45] <infinity> slangasek: I'll do it now.
[17:45] <infinity> slangasek: And done.
[17:46] <infinity> I wonder what a zabbix is.
[17:47] <slangasek> a cross between a zebra, a rabbit, and a unix
[17:47] <infinity> And now I want a zebra-striped rabbit.
[17:47] <infinity> That explodes in 2038.
[17:48] <slangasek> and is full of daemons
[17:49] <infinity> slangasek: I still can't decide if that debian-project mail was sincere or a super-clever parody.
[17:49] <slangasek> hah
[18:08] <ahoneybun> infinity: who do I talk to about ubiquity merges?
[18:10] <infinity> ahoneybun: Generally cyphermox.
[21:16] <mwhudson> can an AA look at why src:astroid is in main and maybe demote it?
[21:19] <jbicha> mwhudson: I believe it's in main because of https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.artful/view/head:/development#L51
[21:20] <mwhudson> jbicha: ah yeah, that explains why but not why, if that makes sense :)
[21:20] <jbicha> one of its rdepends is pylint which dropped to universe when we no longer required build-depends to be in main just before xenial's release
[21:21] <mwhudson> yeah i think it's probably leftover from that
[21:25] <jbicha> merge proposal welcome :)
[21:26] <chiluk> rbasak, slangasek, I'm going to rebackport intel-microcode once again and base it on the 20170707 revision, as that includes kabylake and skylake-x ..... previously it wasn't clear if they were fixed in 20170511, now we know for certain.. I'll try to package up the changes tonight.
[21:26] <chiluk> I plan on doing x, y, and z..
[21:27] <chiluk> rbasak / slangasek, should I open a new bug?  I'm not sure what to do since z is already marked resolved
[21:30] <rbasak> chiluk: in what way is Z not resolved?
[21:30] <rbasak> Am I missing some context here?
[21:58] <chiluk> rbasak intel just released a new microcode version on 7/7
[21:58] <chiluk> rbasak it autosynced to A, but Z is still on 20170511..
[21:59] <chiluk> the 20170511 doesn't include the fix for kabylake or skylake-x apparently
[21:59] <chiluk> I haven't been able to find a good page showing their changelog.
[22:04] <chiluk> best thing I have descibing changes is upstream debian.
[22:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (trusty-proposed/universe) [20170622-0ubuntu1~14.04.0 => 20170622-0ubuntu1~14.04.1] (ubuntu-cloud)
[22:27] <LocutusOfBorg> god, strip-nondeterminism is making everything fail to build
[22:28] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm doing a fake sync of 0.037 to avoid 0.036 being picked up by lp
[22:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gce-compute-image-packages [source] (trusty-proposed) [20170622-0ubuntu1~14.04.1]
[22:28] <LocutusOfBorg> hopefullly I did it in time
[22:28] <LocutusOfBorg> :(
[22:29] <LocutusOfBorg> (and correctly)
[22:29] <LocutusOfBorg> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=filezilla&suite=unstable
[22:29] <LocutusOfBorg> dh_strip_nondeterminism: debian/filezilla-common/usr/share/filezilla/resources/leds.png: Can't locate object method "new" via package "File::Temp" (perhaps you forgot to load "File::Temp"?) at /usr/share/perl5/File/StripNondeterminism/handlers/png.pm line 55.
[22:29] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.debian.org/868077
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected shim-signed [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.32~17.04.1]
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: shim-signed (zesty-proposed/main) [1.28 => 1.32~17.04.1] (core)
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected shim-signed [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.32~16.10.1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected shim-signed [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.32~16.04.1]
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: shim-signed (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.28~16.10.1 => 1.32~16.10.1] (core)
[23:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected shim-signed [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.32~14.04.1]
[23:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: shim-signed (xenial-proposed/main) [1.28~16.04.1 => 1.32~16.04.1] (core)
[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: shim-signed (trusty-proposed/main) [1.19~14.04.1 => 1.32~14.04.1] (core)
[23:34] <slangasek> xnox: do you know why ocaml appears to be terrible on arm64?
[23:37] <xnox> slangasek, i believe upstream is not ready for pie-by-default toolchain and the asm they emit is not PIC/PIE compatible for arm64 and s390x. https://lists.debian.org/debian-ocaml-maint/2017/07/msg00044.html
[23:38] <slangasek> xnox: so this is all broken in Debian also?
[23:38] <xnox> slangasek, i do not have any further assement, and I worry that to unwind coq and the rest, on arm64 and s390x i will need to revert ocaml from PIE to non-PIE and means rebuilding everything. I guess in a silo this time around.
[23:38] <slangasek> Did Debian do binary removals for the release?  Or do they have a pile of silently FTBFS packages on arm64+s390x?
[23:38] <slangasek> also, s390x was PIE-by-default from inception in Ubuntu
[23:39] <xnox> right, but 4.04 brings s390x native port, instead of byte-compiled port.
[23:39] <slangasek> ok
[23:39] <xnox> so this is the first native s390x.
[23:40] <xnox> slangasek, for FTBFS I am requesting these demotions to -proposed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/polygen/+bug/1702913
[23:40] <xnox> 7 packages,
[23:40] <infinity> xnox: See debian/patches/pie-on-amd64.diff
[23:40] <xnox> but coq chain should be fixed / fixable, and dinto ppx chain of packages.
[23:40] <infinity> xnox: Could it be as simple as adding more arches to that (or just not making it conditional in our case)?
[23:41] <slangasek> ok well I won't be demoting to -proposed, I'll be removing from release
[23:41] <xnox> infinity, i saw that, and also the armhf pie patches. I've tried that in my nonvirt ppa, but I think i am missbuilding stuff on downgrade from pie to pic - cause i'm getting relocation errors in src:ocaml builds in my nonvirt ppa
[23:41] <xnox> slangasek, quite.
[23:41] <slangasek> xnox: also, if the packages in -proposed won't build without sourceful fixes, I'll be removing those too
[23:41] <xnox> infinity, but i may have confused myself, therefore need to try harder / more methodical.
[23:42] <xnox> slangasek, but then the fixes will not migrate from debian =(
[23:42] <slangasek> xnox: they won't get autosynced back, they'll get vorlonsynced
[23:42] <infinity> xnox: Ahh, yes, the arm PIC patch looks relevant too indeed.
[23:42] <xnox> slangasek, but i guess it is easy enough to scan for packages that are in testing; but not in devel-proposed.
[23:43] <xnox> infinity, sure, but the arm port in ocaml, has different codepaths / different asm emitted for pic=true vs false;
[23:43] <slangasek> xnox: the autosync script when run interactively gives you the option to re-sync newer versions of removed packages
[23:43] <xnox> infinity, no such thing for arm64 port though =(
[23:43] <slangasek> I just haven't automated that
[23:43] <xnox> slangasek, oooooh =)
[23:44] <infinity> xnox: s390, amd64, and arm have:
[23:44] <infinity> asmcomp/amd64/arch.ml:  [ "-fPIC", Arg.Set Clflags.pic_code,
[23:44] <infinity> asmcomp/amd64/arch.ml:    "-fno-PIC", Arg.Clear Clflags.pic_code,
[23:44] <slangasek> cappuccino is a genuine demote-to-proposed, though
[23:44] <infinity> xnox: I would expect adding something similar to arm64 would be trivial.
[23:44] <xnox> infinity, hm, that smells on the money
[23:45] <xnox> slangasek, also i am dubious about its usefulness - it is a dummy CPU spinner
[23:45] <xnox> intended to make ones machine look busy, whilst one is getting cappuccino from fresh pot
[23:46] <infinity> xnox: I use cappuccino to replace my broken Ctrl key.
[23:46] <slangasek> I completely misread that and thought you said from /a/ fresh pot
[23:46] <slangasek> and I was like, that's not how you cappuccino
[23:47] <infinity> slangasek: Yes, obtaining cappuccino from fresh marijuana makes a lot more sense.
[23:47] <slangasek> infinity: it does if you were paying attention in Portland
[23:48] <xnox> infinity, yeah oregon decriminsalised small scale possesion of pretty much everything.
[23:48] <infinity> Is it non-sequitor Tuesday?
[23:49] <xnox> Including heroin, cocaine, meth
[23:49] <xnox> infinity, Wednesday here
[23:50] <infinity> Oh, well, that makes sense then.  If it's Wednesday, decriminalising possession obviously means cappuccino is derived from weed.
[23:50] <infinity> I think.
[23:50] <infinity> I need to lie down.  My head hurts.
[23:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: marionnet (artful-proposed/primary) [0.90.6+bzr457-1build1]
[23:51]  * xnox ponders if queuebot is announcing vorlonsync in funny ways
[23:52] <infinity> It always announces New.
[23:52] <slangasek> xnox: that was me removing it and then noticing marionnet didn't actually need source changes, just fixed build-dep
[23:52] <slangasek> (and forgetting the --auto-approve)
[23:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted marionnet [sync] (artful-proposed) [0.90.6+bzr457-1build1]


[01:30] <greg> !rdc
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <greg> whats the app for rdc called?
[01:36] <nonlocal> rdesktop?
[01:36] <nonlocal> not sure what you mean by rdc
[01:43] <greg> remote desktop connection
[01:43] <greg> the thing that comes with ubuntu
[01:54] <Pumpernickel> !vnc
[01:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:14] <greg> !FreeNX
[02:14] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:40] <greg> greg@cheeseboy:~$ rdesktop -f -a 16 -p x <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:40] <greg> Autoselected keyboard map en-us
[02:40] <greg> ERROR: connect: Connection refused
[02:40] <greg> >:(
[02:41] <greg> how i fix?
[03:32] <homebrewcider> can someone point me to the latest gtk install in a deb file please?
[04:16] <j1mc> does anyone have a digital camera that they use with xubuntu?
[04:17] <homebrewcider> yes, I do
[04:17] <homebrewcider> sony dsc-p73
[04:18] <j1mc> what does xubuntu do when you plug it in?
[04:18] <j1mc> does it automatically detect it?
[04:18] <j1mc> or do you use a different application?
[04:18] <homebrewcider> yes
[04:18] <maxamillion> j1mc: no, i use gThumb
[04:18] <homebrewcider> but I use digikam
[04:18] <maxamillion> j1mc: install gThumb ... it has a detect and import feature
[04:19] <maxamillion> digikam == kde dependencies
[04:19] <homebrewcider> and download photos using that
[04:19] <j1mc> homebrewcider: what do you mean by 'yes'?  :)
[04:19] <j1mc> hi maxamillion
[04:19] <homebrewcider> he asked if it automatically detected it, I said yes
[04:20] <j1mc> homebrewcider: thanks.
[04:21] <j1mc> maxamillion: i'm asking in regards to documentation.
[04:21] <j1mc> i've been traveling on vacation, and am trying to wrap things up.
[04:22] <maxamillion> j1mc: ah ... well i haven't seen the change log for gutsy, but feisty didn't come default with anything
[04:22] <homebrewcider> use digikam
[04:23] <j1mc> homebrewcider: thanks.  i might reference digikam, but like maxamillion said, it wouldn't be a preferred application for xubuntu because of its kde library dependencies.
[04:23] <maxamillion> yeah ... or don't
[04:24] <maxamillion> digikam pulls KDE libraries and will bloat user resources
[04:29] <homebrewcider> ok
[04:29] <homebrewcider> whatever
[04:31] <gerro> umm on xubuntu gutsy it has segmentation fault when i try to remove 2nd panel
[04:31] <gerro> where would I look into info about this I wanted to test it out :)
[04:57] <Jester45> gerro try #ubuntu+1
[06:00] <javier> how do i change my resolution to 1440x900?
[06:01] <javier> i can only go up to 1024x768
[06:22] <ceil420> does anyone know how i can disable 'Enable Sound Server Startup' in Xubuntu? This thing says it's in "System > Preferences > Sound", but there is no System > Preferences in Xubuntu
[06:26] <xork> i just upgraded video cards (holy crap it's fast), and i already had nvidia drivers loaded in xorg and it took to them fine
[06:26] <xork> since it's a newer card
[06:27] <xork> is there any advantage to going to nvidia-new-glx or whatever the package is?
[02:05] <Michael> how to hide windows and show desktop via command on xubuntu?
[02:10] <Michael> who can help me?
[02:13] <pleia2> Michael: ctrl alt d
[02:14] <Michael> thanks
[02:14] <pleia2> welcome
[02:46] <Michael> pleia2,  is there a command to show desktop? I want to set a keybind via xbindkeys
[02:49] <TheSheep> Michael: wmctrl -k on
[02:58] <Michael> TheSheep, great! thanks
[02:59] <Michael> i love ubuntu
[02:59] <TheSheep> Michael: wmctrl has a great number of other neat options
[03:00] <TheSheep> Michael: btw, you can assing a key to show desktop in the wm settings dialog
[03:01] <TheSheep> Michael: no need to use xbindkeys for that
[03:01] <Michael> pls say more info
[03:03] <kritzstapf> which ftp-client do you recommend?
[03:06] <krishaaan> hi
[03:06] <Michael> filezilla. but its site manager is not good
[03:06] <krishaaan> rijo, ?
[03:07] <kritzstapf> krishaaan: hi :)
[03:07] <krishaaan> ah kritzstapf :)
[03:07] <kritzstapf> krishaaan: Michael just suggested filezilla
[03:07] <krishaaan> k
[03:07] <Michael> up to now, i can't find a ftp-client with gui has a good site manager.
[03:08] <Michael> by the way, i want to know what's the meaning of btw? english is not my mother language.
[03:08] <krishaaan> lol
[04:13] <nikolam> Hello
[04:51] <Michael> anyone use promail?
[04:54] <Michael> I subscribed some mailing lists, such as VIM user. I want to class them. e.g. emails from vim user are placed in vim-user directory.
[04:54] <Michael> thanks
[05:06] <askatasuna> hello i cannot find ip_forward on xubuntu
[05:06] <askatasuna> someone knows how can i do
[05:07] <Vinze> askatasuna, I'm no good at it, but is this what you mean? http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/
[06:31] <twiggz> i need a recommendation for a program....ive got a 15 year old ..i put xubuntu fiesty on her laptop...now i want to install a program that will keep tabs on what she does...and email the logs to say..my gmail...
[06:32] <TheSheep> haha
[06:32] <twiggz> whats funny about that?
[06:33] <twiggz> are you 15 too?
[06:33] <twiggz> lol
[06:33] <twiggz> cos yes, i would find that to be funny myself.
[06:33] <TheSheep> twiggz: you want to log mouse clicks?
[06:33] <twiggz> no, just sites she visits really.
[06:33] <twiggz> she really only uses firefox and gaim.
[06:33] <TheSheep> ah, that's doable
[06:34] <twiggz> well, im sure it is..i just dont know what to look for..ive never had a 15 year old before..lol
[06:35] <twiggz> her mother wants to know what shes doing online.
[06:35] <TheSheep> twiggz: just enable logging in the firewall
[06:36] <TheSheep> twiggz: there should be a howto somewhere
[06:36] <TheSheep> twiggz: mailing the logs is a little bit more complicated
[06:36] <nonlocal> I have some slapped together scripts that break up my irc logs and mail them to my gmail in chunks...
[06:37] <twiggz> well, i suppose as long as it logs to begin with ..that would be enough.
[06:37] <nonlocal> perhaps they could be of use
[06:37] <twiggz> well, also..is there any sort of realtime monitor we could use?
[06:40] <nonlocal> so you can rush in and interrupt and kiddieporn? haha
[06:40] <nonlocal> sorry
[06:40] <TheSheep> twiggz: you could connect with VNC in a 'view only' mode
[06:40] <TheSheep> twiggz: or just collect screenshots periodically
[06:40] <TheSheep> twiggz: we do that for some offices
[06:41] <twiggz> yes nonlocal, so we can run in and interrupt her porn surfing.
[06:41] <twiggz> lol
[06:43] <nonlocal> twiggz:  Again, I'm sorry if I was innapropriate. I remember how important free surfing/hacking/etc was to me when I was 15, even though I did a lot of stuff I'm sure my parents wouldn't have approved of. Not my place, though.
[06:43] <TheSheep> twiggz: here's how to set up logging: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[06:45] <TheSheep> twiggz: you could also set the computer so that all the web pages can only be retrieved via web proxy, and collect better logs on that proxy (and optionally do some filetring)
[07:15] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: hiho
[07:16] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: hello
[07:17] <hyper__ch> there's a nice article on howtoforge :)
[07:17] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: http://www.howtoforge.com/mysecureshell_sftp_debian_etch
[07:18] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: you think that also works for feisty?
[07:20] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: the package names will be different
[07:20] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: are you sure they are different?
[07:20] <zoredache> TheSheep: are you sure?  98% of debian packages have the same name...
[07:21] <TheSheep> zoredache: you want newer ones :)
[07:24] <TheSheep> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=117807
[07:24] <hyper__ch> :) it looks quite interesting
[07:49] <jessejazza> Hi - hoping someone can help. I have ubuntu 6.10 installed on a compaq p3 1ghz 512mb. Thought i'd try XFCE as the PC is a little older than most. However i get the bug report - there seems to be a file that doesn't download. Is this a known problem?
[07:53] <zoredache> jessejazza: are you trying to do this from synaptic or the commandline?
[07:53] <jessejazza> synaptic
[07:54] <zoredache> you might try an 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' from a terminal
[07:55] <hyper__ch> but first close synaptic
[07:55] <zoredache> jessejazza: do you have any nonstandard repositories?  it is also possible that you have a sources.list that is creating a situation that makes xfce uninstallable
[07:56] <jessejazza> is there any difference between the two. Synaptic i thought was the better route as it's visual and lets you know the dependencies.
[07:57] <zoredache> jessejazza: but the command line gives you more detail about errors
[07:57] <zoredache> if everything is working then the gui is fine... but when things aren't working sometimes you need to see what is actually happening
[07:57] <zoredache> that, and I am just more familair with the command line tools, so that is the only place I can be helpful
[08:00] <jessejazza> I'll give it a try [i'm using a spare PC to learn about ubuntu before i fully transfer]  . In the meantime do any of you use another environment - fluxbox or  ... One other thing with apps like evolution is it possible to remove it as a default from ubuntu - when i tried it synaptic came up with ubuntu-desktop as a dependency... and i guessed that it wasn't possible.
[08:03] <zoredache> you can remove ubuntu-desktop if you like.  the *buntu-desktop packages are only there to help people get a selection of common software, and to make upgrades easier.  If you want to removesomething, and it is the only thing keeping the package you want remove in place, then remove the *buntu-desktop package.
[08:04] <habu> i've lost the top and bottom task bars off my xubuntu desktop, how would i get them back?
[08:04] <zoredache> habu: do they come back after a logout/login?
[08:04] <habu> zoredache, no
[08:05] <habu> i've managed to create launchers for xchat and firefox. thats how i got here.
[08:09] <jessejazza> zoredadche: if i removed ubuntu-desktop wouldn't it then remove all the apps in the package. I wanted to get rid of evolution as i use thunderbird and wasn't sure what would happen if i did
[08:12] <sx66_> what is the xfce setting for theme installer? xubuntu does not have a theme installer
[08:20] <Shaba1> Hello folks
[08:21] <Shaba1> I am a linux newbie. I have xubuntu installed on this computer
[08:21] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: thats good :)
[08:21] <Shaba1> is there a way to send a shortcut of a web page to the desktop as there is in windows
[08:22] <Shaba1> I right click on a page and use send link but sometimes that works and sometimes it does not
[08:23] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: I guess that depends on the browser you are using
[08:23] <Shaba1> firefox
[08:23] <Shaba1> that is what came with this xubuntu installation and it works for me so far
[08:24] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: search if there is an add-on to FF that does it
[08:25] <hyper__ch> http://addons.mozilla.org
[08:25] <Shaba1> thanks
[08:25] <Shaba1> ok second thing
[08:26] <Shaba1> is there a convient way of seeing my hard disk usage in a pie chart format
[08:26] <Shaba1> Thundar just mystifies me.
[08:28] <hyper__ch> well, if you select the HD on the left it will just tell you in the bottom status bar how much free space you have
[08:29] <nonlocal> Shaba1:  you can also try 'df' at the command line.. no piegraph, but...
[08:30] <Shaba1> but what
[08:30] <hyper__ch> setting up a tor server now :)
[08:30] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: what but?
[08:30] <nonlocal> Shaba1:  But all the information you are looking for
[08:32] <Shaba1> ok back again
[08:32] <Shaba1> sorry I am just getting use to xchat also
[08:46] <jessejazza> be grateful if someone could advise. when i put a floppy disk into the PC - it seems to take ages reading it and then a disk icon appears on the desktop. Is that what ubuntu refers to as mounting a disk. It doesn't seem to just read a disk like windoze does.
[08:47] <hyper__ch> jessejazza: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:09] <jessejazza> "New users come to Linux after spending their lives using an OS where the end-user's needs are paramount, and "user friendly" and "customer focus" are considered veritable Holy Grails. And they suddenly find themselves using an OS that still relies on 'man' files, the command-line, hand-edited configuration files, and Google. And when they complain, they don't get coddled or promised better...
[09:09] <jessejazza> hyper__ch: i imagine this bit from the link was meant for me - i think you probably had a bit of help early on. I've got two good books but they leave out some of the basics. I think it's a bit arrogant really.
[09:09] <jessejazza> ...things: They get bluntly shown the door."
[09:11] <TheSheep> jessejazza: it should only read the directory structure off the disk, it shouldn't take so long
[09:12] <TheSheep> jessejazza: you can type 'dmesg' in a terminal and see if there were read errors, they might take some time
[09:13] <jessejazza> thanks - so mine could be a problem! But when it 'mounts' does an icon go on the desktop?
[09:14] <TheSheep> jessejazza: actually the floppy icon should be on the desktop all the time, since the computer has no way of telling whether there is a diskette in the drive or not
[09:14] <TheSheep> jessejazza: uless it's a mac
[09:14] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: nac checks all the time?
[09:14] <Ben_Cs> *mac
[09:15] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: no, mac doesn't have a button for ejecting them :)
[09:15] <Ben_Cs> who uses floppy nowadays anyway?
[09:15] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: they come in handy for booting sometimes
[09:16] <Ben_Cs> most pc's boot off CD or USB
[09:16] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: we have some older boxen without a cd and not booting from usb
[09:16] <Ben_Cs> i see
[09:17] <jessejazza> USE FLOPPIES! ... well i don't - but the portable writer, the USB portable floppy, and 3.5 drive don't seem to work at present. So i'm trying to find out why!
[09:21] <jessejazza> If i'm some older boxen - how is it you folk use xubuntu.
[09:23] <wyrd> i use it on my lappy
[09:23] <wyrd> it's far from new and shiney
[10:54] <junkeR> hello everyone
[10:55] <wyrd> hello
[11:17] <youreahat> Hello, I just did a fresh install of XFCE from the repos, and I can't seem to adjust my screensaver or power options.  How would I go about that when the Screensaver button doesn't seem to appear in Settings Manager?
[11:25] <Bender1337> does xubuntu come with openssh?
[11:30] <wyrd> bender, i can't remember, but i suspect it does
[11:30] <wyrd> and if not, it's only an install away
[11:31] <Bender1337> thanks
[12:03] <junkeR> hey, I installed all the plugins to play my video files.. but when I play them (it doesn't matter which player) they all appear lighter than usual
[12:06] <Pumpernickel> Easy enough to fix, in VLC at least.  Prefs -> video -> filters -> image adjust.
[12:06] <twiggz> junkeR: i feel your pain....colors look better on my freebsd machine by default than they do in ubuntu...or any linux for that matter..
[12:06] <Pumpernickel> (Assuming that it's just the gamma that's off.)
[12:09] <junkeR> okay, i g2g but i'll try that later tonight
[12:09] <junkeR> thanks
[12:14] <cjae_> what is the best wireless chipset to use linux?
[12:17] <wyrd> i use an rt2500 in my lappy
[12:17] <wyrd> it's a bit of a pian to get working
[12:18] <wyrd> but works fine afterwards
[12:19] <twiggz> i have a belkin card that worked right away with the fiesty alternative install cd....
[12:20] <twiggz> i like the alternative install cd...its straight forward..and you dont have to sit there jerking your mouse off for an hour picking different options trying to figure out which gui button your supposed to use for YOUR wireless set up..
[01:02] <emdash> i installed the emacs22 update a while back
[01:03] <emdash> i like the gtk version, but why is syntax hilighting disabled for the python mode?
[01:03] <emdash> and how do I get it back?


[10:56] <sparrow2> please anybody help me out with installation of pygame in ubuntu precise I have been trying for so long...:(
[10:57] <sparrow2> my software centre is giving error dependency is not satisfiable-libportmidi0 ...I am new to ubuntu pls help
[10:59] <ykilla> please anybody help me out with installation of pygame in ubuntu precise I have been trying for so long...:( my software centre is giving error dependency is not satisfiable-libportmidi0 ...I am new to ubuntu pls help
[11:10] <Pendulum> ykilla: this isn't a support channel. For support you want #ubuntu
[11:11] <ykilla> ok thanks for telling..


[07:13] <Guest38583> Good morning folks. Just wanted to come on here and express my gratitude for Ubuntu Studio. Been using it for a few weeks now and it runs my audio visuals great.
[07:13] <zequence> Guest38583: Nice to hear that!
[07:13] <cfhowlett> Guest38583, glad it works for you!
[07:13] <Guest38583> I should also state, I am using mate desktop installed over the top with no issues at all
[07:14] <Guest38583> that's mate 1.8 for clarity
[07:15] <Guest38583> the main reason for using US is because i have found ot to be by far the most stable linux distro when using QjackCTL with things like qsynth, rosegarden etc
[07:15] <Guest38583> thanks again folks...bye for now
[07:21] <stephen_> hi again folks...just thought I'd share a youtube link of what i am currently using Ubuntu studio for....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRpDbe5hQJE
[07:27] <zequence> stephen_: Nice to see the menu works well in Mate as well :)
[07:30] <stephen_> it works, but there is a hell of a lot of redundancy....lol. that is to say, i need to go in there and remove where it has repeated stuff. but no big deal really.
[07:32] <zequence> Yes, we are working on the menu to make it more universal. But, might not be ready until X release, the next LTS
[07:36] <stephen_> it's no problem. Everything works okay....I can't believe I had never tried Ubuntu Studio before now. It just has everything on board running perfectly that I normally have to install after the fact with other linux distros.
[10:16] <luca__> ciao
[10:16] <luca__> bestie
[14:51] <andersonid> hi folks
[14:52] <andersonid> this linux distro is awesome! damn! so nice!
[14:54] <andersonid> see ya
[14:57]  * LikeVinyl is away: a cocinar!
[17:27] <siwyborsuk> hello guys
[17:27] <siwyborsuk> someone here?


[20:41] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:29] <mwhudson> morning
[21:35] <olly> morning
[21:43] <ajmitch> morning
[22:08] <hads> morning


[01:31] <Laibsch> I think we're lacking a wiki page or something like it to explain the meaning of tags such as regression-potential, regression-release, etc.
[01:31] <Laibsch> Is there a tag that denotes a regression from mainline?
[01:32] <dhillon-v10> Laibsch: I am pretty sure there's a page that explains those topics, I remember reading aobut them somewhere but don't exactly know where :)
[01:36] <kamal> Laibsch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RegressionTracking
[01:37] <Laibsch> I see, thanks
[01:38] <Laibsch> I search for that page with the keyword "regression-potential" but it didn't show up
[01:38] <Laibsch> I hope my comments got through, I'm currently in and out of tunnels
[01:40] <dhillon-v10> kamal: thanks :)
[15:56] <xelister> hi guys
[15:56] <xelister> the swapoff performance is bad,  swap gets freed with speeds like 5 MB/s instead expected 50+  why so?
[15:57] <xelister> i.e. when you do  swapoff /somedev then it takes really long to execute, slowly freeing swap (seen in swapon -s)


[00:01] <tigeli> KombuchaKip: suicide..
[00:01] <KombuchaKip> tigeli: mm
[08:30] <brendand> i'm trying to login to launchpad anonymously on Lucid with launchpadlib. it seems the process is different from the current version though. anyone know how to do this?
[09:10] <danhg> Morning
[09:14] <mrevell> Morning
[09:22] <brendand> no-one using launchpadlib on Lucid?
[09:25] <nigelb> Pretty sure there are.
[09:26] <brendand> i'm sure there are too, but are any of them here?
[09:28] <maxb> Try Launchpad.login("myapp", "", "", PRODUCTION_SERVICE_ROOT)
[09:29] <maxb> https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib#launchpadlib_API_compatibility
[09:29] <nigelb> brendand: Oh. I use Lucid (not at the moment, but on my home computer)
[09:30] <maxb> See my link for my attempt to clarify launchpadlib's playing fast and loose with API compatibility
[09:36] <brendand> thanks
[10:14] <czajkowski> mrevell: ping
[10:14] <mrevell> hey czajkowski, I'm on the phone so will be delayed in reply
[10:15] <czajkowski> mrevell: can you pm me the link to sinzui thread on the LCoC cannot find it on the ml :s
[10:15] <czajkowski> when you get a chance
[10:15] <czajkowski> please
[10:15] <czajkowski> thank you!
[10:16] <wgrant> czajkowski: https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg08288.html
[10:17] <czajkowski> wgrant: thanks
[10:48] <tumbleweed> let me ask again: Can anyone help me use getPublishedSources reliably (I want to be able to run it multiple times, using created_since_date) and not get duplicates or miss uploads
[13:08] <mandel> I'm having conectivity issues when trying to push a branch (while I have not touched a thing) are there any knowns issues in lp?
[13:08] <lool> same here
[13:10] <mandel> lool, I managed to branch, but going a merge fails, which is weird..
[13:10] <mandel> and push just worked.. :P
[13:11] <mrevell> gmb, Is the above something we're aware of?
[13:13] <lool> on bzr pull:
[13:13] <lool> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[13:13] <lool> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[13:13] <lool> ssh -v bazaar.launchpad.net
[13:13] <lool> debug1: Connection established.
[13:13] <lool> debug1: identity file none type -1
[13:13] <lool> debug1: identity file none-cert type -1
[13:13] <lool> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[13:14] <lool> (my ssh key is in my agent and didn't change in ages)
[13:14] <mandel> same here
[13:14] <benji> gmb: have you seen any ssh connectivity problems?
[13:15] <benji> (like the above?)
[13:21] <gmb> benji, lool, mandel: checking...
[13:21] <lool> working now
[13:22] <gmb> benji, look, mandel: Hah, oddly enough I'm still getting the error. I'll make enquiries. Maybe something's hiccuping.
[13:25]  * jdobrien watches for a minute to see if anyone else is having checkout problems
[13:26] <gmb> webm0nk3y, lool, benji, mandel: We're looking into the problems now; gnuoy reports that there was an alert for codehosting but it seems to have cleared. Are you still having problems?
[13:27] <benji> gmb: yep: "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[13:27] <webm0nk3y> gmb: yeah
[13:27] <pindonga> +1
[13:27] <gmb> benji, webm0nk3y, pindonga: Yep, confirmed. We'll keep looking.
[13:28] <lool> gmb: I don't
[13:28] <lool> gmb: Oh it's back now
[13:28] <gmb> Ah.
[13:28] <gmb> Hmm.
[13:29] <lool> is there something I can run with ssh to give more details?  ssh -vvv eventually tries running a shell which isn't allowed
[13:29] <gnuoy> gmb, seeing lots of "failed to authenticate"
[13:30] <benji> gnuoy: do we have a LB in front of multiple servers?  It feels like one might be hosed and the others are fine, resulting in intermittent failures.
[13:34] <gnuoy> benji, yes and the lb has just been restarted, can you try again
[13:35] <gnuoy> pls ?
[13:36] <benji> gnuoy: 30 tries at a one second interval have been successful
[13:37] <gnuoy> benji, good news. thank you
[13:38] <gmb> lool, pindonga, webm0nk3y, mandel: Can you check your SSH connectivity again please; we think we've got it licked but just to be sure...
[13:38] <lool> gmb: works now
[13:38] <gmb> Cool
[13:39] <webm0nk3y> \o/
[13:39] <pindonga> gmb, +1
[13:48] <Laney> would it be hard / bad for PPAs to be able to be NotAutomatic (ButAutomaticUpgrades)?
[13:53] <Kiall> Laney: you mean so they dont override core packages?
[13:53] <Laney> so you have to explicitly choose to install packages from them
[13:54] <Kiall> you can do that with pinning, but cant set it as part of the PPA
[13:54] <Laney> right
[13:55] <Kiall> I have this package which PIN one of my repo's at highest priority https://github.com/managedit/managedit-openstack-pin
[13:55] <Kiall> PIN's*
[13:56] <Laney> i know there are ways to do it clientside, but there is an already existing serverside implementation
[13:56] <Kiall> So, you could have a similar package in your PPA which people can install and have the pin setup for them
[13:56] <Kiall> But, there is no server side way that I know of
[13:57] <Laney> there is, it is called NotAutomatic
[13:58] <Kiall> Oh
[13:58] <Laney> i probably should have asked in #-dev
[15:03] <FC34> hi
[15:04] <FC34> I forgotten the password of my account
[15:05] <FC34> and the process to init the password does not work
[15:05] <FC34> what can i do ?
[15:08] <FC34> i get the following message :
[15:08] <FC34> Your page was stale.
[15:08] <FC34> Apologies, the page you came from was a little old. Perhaps you navigated here from a browser window other than the one you used to login. If so, try using the other browser window. Or, try your action again, starting from our home page.
[15:12] <FC34> i get this message when i try to reset my launchpad login service password, or when i try a create a new account with the same informations
[15:22] <FC34> any help ?
[15:28] <gmb> FC34: Hi, sorry for missing your message; my IRC client disconnected.
[15:28] <gmb> FC34: Let me look into that for you.
[15:28] <FC34> what information you need ?
[15:29] <gmb> FC34: Let me try the process myself, then I'll let you know if I've any questions.
[15:30] <gmb> FC34: Are you getting this message before or after you've received the email from Launchpad?
[15:30] <gmb> (s/the email/ the email giving you instructions about how to reset your password)
[15:31] <FC34> i do not receive a mail
[15:31] <FC34> i receive this message into the web portal
[15:31] <gmb> FC34: Okay, so let's walk through this, then.
[15:31] <gmb> FC34: Open https://login.launchpad.net/ in your browser
[15:32] <FC34> gmb i'm already on it
[15:32] <gmb> FC34: For the sake of clarity, is the URL in your browser just "https://login.launchpad.net/"?
[15:32] <FC34> gmb: then i go to https://login.launchpad.net/+forgot_password
[15:33] <gmb> Ok
[15:33] <FC34> then i provide my email et captcha then hit the continue button
[15:33] <FC34> and then i get the message
[15:33] <FC34> this this the next page loaded
[15:34] <FC34> provided by the web server
[15:34] <gmb> FC34: That's very odd. I'm not seeing that at all. Let me look into that for you. Bear with me...
[15:35] <FC34> i was not connected since 2008
[15:35] <FC34> perhaps after a period of inactivity account have special status
[15:36] <gmb> FC34: I don't _think_ that's the problem. Can you PM your email address to me so that I can look up your account's status?
[16:58] <mrevell> gmb, Who is the help contact tomorrow? Do you know?
[16:59] <mrevell> gmb, I'm asking because the wiki says tomorrow is the turn of the new person we havne't yet recruited.
[17:00] <nigelb> heh
[17:13] <gmb> mrevell: Er, yes. We've been kind of splitting Wednesdays between us a bit since danilo left.
[17:19] <mrevell> gmb, Thanks
[17:42] <Resistance> there's  no easy-nifty way of merging one bazaar branch into another, right?
[17:43] <Resistance> i'd have to do that manually?
[17:45] <maxb> Resistance: er, other than 'bzr merge'
[17:45] <maxb> ?
[17:45] <Resistance> maxb:  i meant from the launchpad interface
[17:45] <maxb> Oh, right
[17:45] <Resistance> yes, i'm aware of the actual bzr commands
[17:46] <Resistance> but i wondered about from launchpad itself ;P
[17:46] <maxb> You want the merge queues feature which is partially implemented, but not currently (AFAIK) scheduled for completion
[17:47] <Resistance> i see
[17:47] <Resistance> maxb:  then is there an easy way for me to merge lp:myuser/junk/something into lp:team/junk/blah?
[17:47] <Resistance> without doing the merge locally and then pushing
[17:49] <maxb> Not currently, no
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> is there a reason why i can't push to bzr atm?
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> when pushing to branches on LP
[18:39] <plars> chrisccoulson: not just you, I can't pull branches either, same issue
[18:40] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, nothing on https://twitter.com/#!/launchpadstatus, and i don't see any announcements of downtime
[18:42] <flacoste> chrisccoulson: no, that's unexpected
[18:43] <chrisccoulson> flacoste, ok, thanks. it seems that started in the last half an hour or so
[18:47] <bac> hi chrisccoulson we're looking into it
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> bac, cool, thanks
[18:48] <niemeyer> Hey there
[18:48] <niemeyer> Is code hosting knowingly down at the moment?
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> niemeyer, yes
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> you just missed the conversation ;)
[18:48] <niemeyer> chrisccoulson: Cool, np
[18:48] <niemeyer> chrisccoulson: Just wanted to make sure it was known
[18:50] <eLBati> ciao
[18:50] <eLBati> is bazaar down?
[18:52] <eLBati> $ ssh bazaar.launchpad.net
[18:52] <eLBati> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[19:02] <chhay> anyone else having issues with switching their branches?
[19:03] <smoser> $ ssh bazaar.launchpad.net
[19:03] <smoser> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[19:03] <smoser> chhay, is that your problem?
[19:03] <chrisccoulson> perhaps someone should change the title in the channel :)
[19:04] <tlonim> is launchpad having issues ? I am getting this during bzr branch -- http://sprunge.us/BDLE
[19:05] <jdobrien> tlonim: looks like the same issue is back
[19:05] <tlonim> ok.. so a server issue ?
[19:06] <jdobrien> chrisccoulson: new title "Launchpad go boom boom"
[19:08] <chhay> smoser: yes
[19:14] <soren> How often are mirrored branches mirrored?
[19:16] <soren> Oh, every six hours.
[19:16] <soren> Found it here: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/MirroredBranches
[19:17] <diwic> Hi, this build seems to have stalled one month ago for no reason: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+recipe/pulseaudio-daily
[19:18] <diwic> It's stuck in "Pending Build" since one month back
[19:26] <bac> chrisccoulson: code-hosting is back.  please let us know if you see problems again.
[19:26] <chrisccoulson> bac, excellent, thanks
[19:26] <bac> chhay, smoser: ^^
[19:26] <smoser> yep. fixed.
[19:26] <chhay> bac: thx, fixed
[19:49] <MTecknology> Any ideas why my recipe build has been failing?  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/85207908/buildlog.txt.gz
[19:53] <YokoZar> MTecknology: I just came to post with similar error
[19:53] <YokoZar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/890834
[19:54] <YokoZar> MTecknology: Pretty sure it's due to the upgrade of the builder (recipes now support some more tags), probably forgot to include a package
[19:55] <MTecknology> oh..
[20:13] <YokoZar> MTecknology: you could "me too" the bug I linked
[20:14] <MTecknology> YokoZar: I would but I'm at work and don't remember the password
[22:37] <sobczyk> can I change the launchpad id?
[22:38] <mwhudson> sobczyk: so long as you haven't created a ppa, yes
[22:39] <sobczyk> mwhudson: just deleted it, it was empty
[22:39] <mwhudson> i'm not sure what happens then :/
[22:40] <wgrant> sobczyk: Wait up to 10 minutes for the deletion to finish, then you can rename.
[22:41] <sobczyk> wgrant: thank you
[22:42] <kamal> hi launchpad folks...  I just got a PPA dput upload failure.   I launchpad feeling unhappy?:
[22:42] <kamal> Uploading to ppa (via ftp to ppa.launchpad.net):
[22:42] <kamal>   Uploading fldigi_3.21.26-1~kamal~lucid.dsc: 550 Requested action not taken: internal server error
[22:43] <wgrant> kamal: That's not ideal. Let me see.
[22:43] <kamal> wgrant: thanks!
[22:53] <wgrant> kamal: Is it working now?
[22:53] <kamal> wgrant: yup, thanks :-)


[00:59] <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 lubuntu-update-notifier hasn't been added to our package set, I can't upload the changes Hans made.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> @tsimonq2 lubuntu-update-notifier hasn't been added to our package set, …], Go ahead and send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>stating as such
 I technically have the permissions as a DMB member to update it but I've never used the script
 Ok will do tomorrow. Thanks.
 Thanks
 Thanks
 Didn't know that lintian didn't like short description ending with a "."
[02:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL87f1070f2b0f: Improve wording] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL87f1070f2b0f
[03:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb9ca5def9e8f: Reduce Wordiness] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb9ca5def9e8f
[04:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb288d05a7c34: Reword On menu for pavucontrol] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb288d05a7c34
 ISOs failing to build for 2nd day in a row across most flavours :(
 @RikMills [ISOs failing to build for 2nd day in a row across most flavours :(], Kernel
 Yeah :/
[18:04] <wxl> can someone look into this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1833309
[18:07] <wxl> and we should work to try to confirm this and see if it's still true in git. if so, we need an upstream bug report https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/screen-vs-desktop-in-task-manager/663/1
[19:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T141: Remove dated marketing link on lubunt.me/links page ] profetik777 (profetik777) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T141
[20:10] <kc2bez> wxl: It looks like that symlink has been there for a bit https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-artwork/browse/ubuntu%252Ffocal/debian/lubuntu-artwork.links$1
[20:11] <wxl> kc2bez: i guess i don't understand how, if at all, it's problematic
[20:11] <kc2bez> Nor do I.
[20:12] <kc2bez> I mean the extensions don't match, so what?
[20:12] <wxl> as far as i can tell it just means whether or not you reference the png or jpg it will work on both
[20:13] <kc2bez> Exactly. Seems like a failsafe of sorts.
[20:17] <wxl> thanks. won't fix'd it.
 @wxl [<wxl> as far as i can tell it just means whether or not you reference the png or …], +1
[20:18] <kc2bez> Thanks. I'd happily change something if it wasn't working.
[20:21] <wxl> TIL `ubuntu-distro-info --series=disco --days=eol`
[20:37] <wxl> https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/missing-icons-in-panel/667/1 is because that theme lacks the right icons, right?
[20:39] <wxl> ^ I would expect @HMollerCl to be the resident expert here
 Wxl you available for me to PM briefly?
 @wxl [<wxl> ^ I would expect @HMollerCl to be the resident expert here], That would be me first guess, however, it is strange (but can be) that none of the 3 has them. Sometimes I've seen that changing the icon theme doesn't re-draw all of them, a restart of lxqt-panel (or logout/login) can solve that.
[21:35] <wxl> @HMollerCl would you be so kind as to reply to the inquiry?
[22:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T141: Remove dated marketing link on lubunt.me/links page ] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T141#2898
[22:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T141: Remove dated marketing link on lubunt.me/links page ] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T141#2898
[22:07] <wxl> @HMollerCl i wonder if we shouldn't consider not redrawing icons a bug
 re: t141, yes, thank you wxl, for getting me the requisite access to get things working
 no thank you Simon for failing to configure SMTP on the system
 :P
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl i wonder if we shouldn't consider not redrawing icons a bug], I haven't found consistency on it, haven't try either
[23:53] <wxl> @HMollerCl okie dokie :)