[12:02] <Jowi> xst, from what I understand it is on the server that the option should be changed?
[12:02] <p1ls>
[12:02] <aubade> rapter: You mean app-install?
[12:03] <p1ls> test
[12:03] <gaillard> anyone here mind answering a struts 2 question for me?
[12:03] <Jowi> xst, also, a bit further down someone solved it by modifying /etc/nsswitch.conf.
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: there is no package name for a menu entry
[12:03] <nootrope> rapter: did you try #mintylinux?
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: theres nobody ever there, and #mintlinux is always quiet.
[12:04] <nootrope> rapter: and, did you try removing the Applications menu from the panel and re-adding it, like IndyGunFreak told you to?
[12:04] <SillyZ> SillyZ, test
[12:04] <SillyZ> hmm no beep
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: i don't think he did,
[12:04] <robdeman> folks how do I untar using Putty/SSH/Commandline?
[12:04] <m0se5>  How do I use the ls command and omit the file permissions in the output? ls -lgGhR /folder/ > output.file is doing what I need except for the file permissions being in there.
thancks
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: but Mint uses some sort of bastard GUI, so it might be differen than standard Gnome/KDE
[12:05] <WillJitsu> I have WinXP installed on a 250GB HD.  I want to dual-boot XP and ubuntu.  What software should I use to create a partition for ubuntu and what steps should I follow to make sure they dual-boot together properly?
[12:05] <nootrope> hmm. i see.
[12:05] <younghacker> hey
[12:05] <nootrope> hey
[12:05] <younghacker> i got a stupid question
[12:05] <lil_cain> WillJitsu: the installer does it
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: i don't think he's trying to add/remove an application, he's tryign to add the add/remove the add/remove option in his menu
[12:05] <Jowi> !dualboot | WillJitsu
[12:06] <ubotu> WillJitsu: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:06] <MrPockets> hey fellas
[12:06] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: shoot
[12:06] <SillyZ> install windows, then install linux, done
[12:06] <younghacker> how do i find out how much space is left on the hard drive
[12:06] <m0se5> WillJitsu: just start the ubuntu setup... it'll walk you though to use your free space on disk.
[12:06] <WillJitsu> sweet.  thanks!
[12:06] <nootrope> IndyGunFreak: yeah, i got that, so i thought your suggestion was a good one
[12:06] <Jowi> younghacker, df -h
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: yeah, on standard Gnome/KDE, i think it would have worked.
[12:06] <nootrope> younghacker: open it in Places
[12:06] <WillJitsu> m0se5: even though xp is already using all 250 as one partition?
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> almost sure it would have actually
[12:06] <younghacker> thanks
[12:06] <nootrope> and double click to open it and look at the status bar (bottom)
[12:07] <m0se5> WillJitsu: yup.. it'll use the free space that windows is not using.
[12:07] <MrPockets> my ubuntu settup hates my winblows wireless mouse
[12:07] <MrPockets> any idea how to configure this?
[12:07] <WillJitsu> m0se5: nice.  thanks
[12:07] <m0se5>  How do I use the ls command and omit the file permissions in the output? ls -lgGhR /folder/ > output.file is doing what I need except for the file permissions being in there.
[12:07] <nootrope> \IndyGunFreak: i see.
[12:08] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: what version of Mint do you have
[12:08] <Gladiator> selam tr den balanan varm
[12:09] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: are you there?
[12:09] <xRainbows> hi, is there a software other than wget to download entire websites with links and media ....
[12:09] <xRainbows> ?
[12:09] <rapter> casandra Anywhay I solvd the problem
[12:09] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: how did you solve it?
[12:09] <Gladiator> turkiyeden balanan yokmu hi yaww !!!
[12:09] <Jowi> m0se5, ls -Ghr ?
[12:10] <pike_> xRainbows: maybe you could run getbot under wine :)
[12:10] <rapter> app-install found in sinaptic ( it isent installed in casandra)
[12:10] <xRainbows> ok, ill read about it
[12:10] <xRainbows> thanx!
[12:10] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: isn't cassandra still beta?
[12:10] <younghacker> i tried to download the nintendo emulator and i don't see it on the applications menu is it somewhere else or should install again
[12:10] <Jowi> m0se5, oh, you still want date/time and size?
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: try running it from the command-line.
  "/join #ubuntu-tr
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: (ie from a terminal)
[12:11] <younghacker> what would be the command for that program?
[12:11] <m0se5> Jowi: yeah.. and it to be in a list.
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: what's the program called?
[12:11] <younghacker> wait let me get the title
[12:12] <Gladiator> #ubuntu.tr
[12:12] <xRainbows> with "/join ....
[12:12] <MKS> dpkg: error processing webmin_1.350_all.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
 I thinck not It woudny apear on the downloadpage anywhay dou you now I hawe one final problem befor i declare myself linux user gnome xgl login distorted grafics
[12:13] <MKS> no installs because i cannot access directory
[12:13] <xRainbows> !tr
[12:13] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:13] <xRainbows> !tr >Gladiator
[12:14] <Hillview> anyone here who's tried installing feisty on a thinkpad t23 by chance?  Just wondering if there's any known issues..
[12:15] <spasticteapot> Hillview: Should be smooth sailing.
[12:15] <nigro> anyone know what webcam are well supported?
[12:15] <spasticteapot> Hillview: Ubuntu + Linux = Easy.
[12:15] <Hillview> spasticteapot, cool, thanks.
[12:15] <spasticteapot> Hillview: Ubuntu + Thinkpad = Easy. Brain is dead.
[12:15] <xRainbows> Logitec
[12:15] <xRainbows> is supported i know
[12:15] <xRainbows> mine
[12:15] <rapter> Yesturday I tried to install itcasandra the first time butmade a litle eror in hurry and so tried again today Yesturday sombody sugested apackage that made beryl work but i fergott the name.
[12:16] <nootrope> nigro: try googling "webcam support ubuntu"
[12:16] <Hillview> spasticteapot, I was guessing as much, but I've been surprised before.. figured I'd check. ;)
[12:16] <nigro> nootrope: thanks
[12:16] <nootrope> nigro: looks iffy
[12:17] <derekS> if i do a last on my server, i under the logged in column, i get 00:00
[12:17] <derekS> what does that mena
[12:17] <sebas_> what would you recommend to develop applications for GNOME in c++/c#?
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> !c++
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <xRainbows> nigro  -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> !c
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <pike_> sebas_: do not mention sharp in this channel
 isent beta
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> what isn't beta?
[12:18] <pike_> sebas_: ;-)
[12:18] <cafuego> sharp
[12:18] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know of an issue with torrents in feisty where the client repeatedly stops/starts the download/upload and almost completely loses all network connectivity during this point?
[12:18] <Pollywog> what is the name of the package that provides Adobe Reader?
[12:18] <cafuego> acroread
[12:18] <Pollywog> is it not acroread?
[12:19] <sebas_> ;)
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> there's also an adobe package isn't there?
[12:19] <Pollywog> tnx
[12:19] <kasra> HI , anyone had a problem with kppp long time modem initializing ?
[12:19] <Pollywog> I must be missing the URL for it
[12:19] <nootrope> nigro, do you have the Easycam2 packet?
[12:20] <keeev> How can i veiw a users login password from root?
[12:20] <Pollywog> because apt does not recognize the name acroread
[12:20] <Gladiator> bune tr tr diyo yaaa gck oldum
[12:20] <Jowi> m0se5, can't see that option in the man page. you can use a filter on it though. ls -lgGhrc | awk {'print $2"\t"$3"\t"$4"\t"$5"\t"$6'} (the "\t" is a tab)
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: what torrent client are you using?
[12:20] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i've had this problem in azureus and ktorrent
[12:20] <Jowi> m0se5, and the $number is the column to print
[12:20] <sebas_> do you recommend QT3 to develop simple GNOME apps?
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: have you forwarded your ports on yuour router
[12:21] <cypher1> sebas_, use GTK
[12:21] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: yes, all the basic stuff is correct
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> wierd, sorry,i haveno other suggestion
[12:21] <secleinteer> kk
[12:21] <andyw> can anyone help me getting OpenGL to work when running Feisty Fawn in Parallels 3?
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> whats that one bitorrent client, popular on windows... it runs very well under Wine.
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> cant remember the name of it.
[12:22] <andyw> indy, utorrent?
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> andyw: thats it.
[12:22] <gizmo_the_great1> IndyGunFreak: azureus?
[12:22] <SillyZ> azureus
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> gizmo_the_great1: no, utorrent, thats the one
[12:22] <secleinteer> azureus doesn't need wine
[12:22] <rs> azureus is java right ?
[12:22] <secleinteer> yeah
[12:23] <gizmo_the_great1> secleinteer: i know - i just menntuioned it due to popularity :-)
[12:23] <kasra> i have a problem with kppp using D-Link serial modem on feisty fawn , it takes a long time on initializing before dialing ! anyone can help ?
[12:23] <omegacenti_> !dpms
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: you could try running utorrent in wine, if you're sure its an ubuntu issue(ie, you don't have the problem under Windows)
[12:23] <omegacenti_> What is DPMS?
[12:23] <HymnToLife> [00:22]  <secleinteer> azureus doesn't need wine <= no indeed, it's drunk enough as is :p
[12:23] <Ahadiel> secleinteer: Try Deluge?
[12:23] <Jowi> m0se5, was it good enough?
[12:23] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i spent hours on the #azureus-support channel trying to get this fixed, and it seems to be an OS issue
[12:23] <secleinteer> we looked at the kernel logs
[12:23] <SillyZ> DPMS - Discontinued Problematic Microsoft Systems
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: well, i don't know, Ktorrent works perfectly for me
[12:24] <younghacker> it's called fce ultra
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: but i have a hard time believing its an OS issue
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> very hard
[12:24] <younghacker> thats the name of the emulator
[12:24] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i'm sure it is, i ran azureus in winxp with the exact same settings, same problem
[12:24] <omegacenti_> SillyZ: what?
[12:24] <andyw> secleinteer, what's the problem with azureus?
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: so you had the same problem with azeurus, under windows, with the same settings?
[12:24] <younghacker> add/remove programs  says the program is there but it's not listed anywhere
[12:25] <SillyZ> omegacenti, was making a joke about the acronym for DPMS
[12:25] <omegacenti_> Weird, I think I am still here...
[12:25] <omegacenti_> oh
[12:25] <andyw> does anyone know how to get OpenGL working in parallels?
[12:25] <Dougla1> hello!!
[12:25] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: and it's happening with multiple clients on the same OS
[12:26] <SillyZ> IndyGunFreak, whats the problem with azureus your having maybe i can help?
[12:26] <Dougla1> any one can help me to install one webcam ?
[12:26] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: just lost the connection there
[12:26] <Jowi> omegacenti_, did the resolution/driver prob get solved for you?
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: but if the problem is under Windows and Ubuntu, then the problem is likely you're firewall, not Ubuntu
[12:26] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i tried running azureus with the same settings under winxp, and nothing happened
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok, i misunderstood
[12:26] <secleinteer> the firewall is fine
[12:26] <secleinteer> i've been using torrents for years, and i've NEVER seen this problem
[12:26] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Well through a ton of research and a pinch of I dont know what the %^&* I did, I now have all the resolutions I was hoping for.
[12:26] <SillyZ> Hes probably got his outbound speed cranked to no-limit, thus causing timeouts, try dropping your outbound speed to like 20k/s
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> i thought you said it was doing the same thing under windows
[12:27] <secleinteer> SillyZ: actually i've got the upload limited
[12:27] <secleinteer> i always have
[12:27] <omegacenti_> Jowi: You were the one that made the research possible :)
[12:27] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: nope, just kubuntu
[12:27] <SillyZ> secleinteer, whats the limit your set at ?
[12:27] <secleinteer> SillyZ: 40 kB/s
[12:27] <secleinteer> as i said, i've been using torrents for years with no problems
[12:27] <SillyZ> secleinteer, try chopping that in half
[12:27] <secleinteer> SillyZ: my max upload is 53 kB/s
[12:28] <Ryan__> hey back
[12:28] <SillyZ> secleinteer, also is your isp roadrunner by chance?
[12:28] <omegacenti_> Jowi: You have pretty much assured me of my continued use of Linux And Ubuntu and to be an active supporter of the Linux community. Again, hats off to you friend.
[12:28] <secleinteer> SillyZ: nope, att
[12:28] <Ryan__> does anyone know how to use rkhunter or where to even find it to start the damm thing
[12:28] <Jowi> omegacenti_, congrats to make it work. I've still no clue to why the lower resolutions didn't work.
[12:28] <Rubiks99> hi, i have ubuntu server, but i need cgi. does ubuntu serve come with it, because it aid cgi.pm not found
[12:28] <secleinteer> SillyZ: the point i'm making here is that i haven't had this problem EVER
[12:28] <SillyZ> secleinteer, ya drop it down to around 20, and see if that helps man, sounds like ya got too much traffic going and its causing timeouts
[12:28] <secleinteer> i just upgraded to feisty
[12:28] <secleinteer> and i have this issue
[12:28] <Rubiks99> i have downloaded the cgi.pm, but how do i install it?
[12:28] <secleinteer> SillyZ: i'm telling you it's not the upload
[12:28] <SillyZ> secleinteer, ok
[12:28] <secleinteer> i have the problem when i'm not upoading at all
[12:28] <secleinteer> like right now
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: opena  terminal, and type rkhunter, it will give you options(like rkhunter --checkall), do one of the commands
[12:28] <Ryan__> ok
[12:29] <omegacenti_> Jowi: It seem that putting in ridiculously extreme value for horizontal refresh and vertical refresh somewhat did the trick. a LOT of trial and error.
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: make sure you use sudo when you run the rkhunter command.. ie.. sudo rkhunter --checkall
[12:29] <Dougla1> please, help me to install my webcam in ubuntu !
[12:29] <rabiddachshund> I'm trying to dual boot vista and feisty, but vista is stopping grub from getting to the boot stage. How do I fix that?
[12:29] <secleinteer> only download, still have it disconnecting
[12:29] <Jowi> omegacenti_, yeah, those monitor specs are impossible to find. i searched everywhere.
[12:29] <Jowi> omegacenti_, and very strange that ddcprobe showed nothing
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> rabiddachshund: i've heard that problem, easiest way, might be to put grub on a bootable floppy or usb pen drive
[12:30] <omegacenti_> Jowi: I fear the "Deisgned for Microsoft Windows" Logo.
[12:30] <Bensel> What do I have to do to enable the XRecord extension?
[12:30] <Jowi> lol omegacenti_
[12:30] <Skwid_> hey guys
[12:30] <Skwid_> i have a small problem
[12:30] <rabiddachshund> Indygunfrieak: how would I do that?
[12:30] <Bensel> I tried Option "RECORD" "Enable" already
[12:30] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Did you install vista after installing Linux?
[12:30] <Jowi> Skwid_, ask and be detailed about it :)
[12:30] <rabiddachshund> no, I bought vista preinstalled.
[12:30] <Bensel> (in the Extensions section)
[12:30] <keeev> How can i veiw a users login password from root?
[12:30] <Skwid_> somehow everytime i open a session in gnome, i get the 'Main Menu' editor window opening, but it's not in my session startup programs
[12:31] <cafuego> ... and did a resize, then added linux? Did you instal grub to the MBR?
[12:31] <Dougla1> you see me ?
[12:31] <Jowi> Skwid_, see if it is in $HOME/.config/autostart/
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> rabiddachshund: i've been hearing grub problems with vista.... maybe they are exaggerated, i don't know.... i'd look into creating a bootable floppy.
[12:31] <keeev> yes
[12:31] <cafuego> Dougla1: no, sorry
[12:31] <keeev> lol
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> !supergrubdisk | rabiddachshund
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrubdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> sgd
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> !sgd
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sgd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <Dougla1> kkk
[12:32] <cafuego> IndyGunFreak: I've seen a few installs of Ubuntu onto a vista box, they all worked just fine.
[12:32] <TaJMoX> !google
[12:32] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[12:32] <mcronline> i dual boot vista and ubuntu
[12:32] <m0se5> Jowi: whoa... awesome.. thanks so much for that.. very nice indeed.
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego: i don't doubt that, i've just read a lot of people here havign problems with Vista and grub.
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> maybe they are doing somethign wrong, i don't know.
[12:32] <mzfckr> b
[12:32] <omegacenti_> Jowi: spreading the love tha is wisdom again?
[12:32] <cafuego> IndyGunFreak: Let's define it as "problem with vista" and not blame grub by association ;-)
[12:33] <m0se5> Jowi: Thank you so much.
[12:33] <mcronline> lol
[12:33] <rabiddachshund> cafuego: I didn't actually install anything. Vista has worked fine for me, but I have a laptop running dapper drake and figured I'd try feisty.  It ran perfectly the first time, but I forgot to back up my files, so i booted windows, backed up and now ubuntu won't load.
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego: lol, no prblem with me
[12:33] <Jowi> m0se5, no probs
[12:33] <Skwid_> Jowi: nope, it doesnt look like it
[12:33] <rizhun> Can anyone tell me how I list devices?
[12:33] <Yggdrasil> can somone explain to me how varrun varlock udev devshm lrm get thier partitoin sizes ?
[12:33] <rabiddachshund> It's like vista has completely blocked anything and everything on the cd.
[12:33] <Ryan__> thanks guys
[12:33] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Ah, it won't boot off the cd?
[12:33] <Ryan__> all done
[12:33] <cr3_> I've installed 'powernowd' and when I try to change freq, it says :
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd: Found 2 scalable units:  -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd:   cpu0: 2400Mhz - 2800Mhz (2 steps)
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd:   cpu1: 2400Mhz - 2800Mhz (2 steps)
[12:33] <rabiddachshund> correct.
[12:33] <cr3_> wh0t should i do?
[12:33] <cafuego> !paste > cr3_
[12:33] <andyw> can anyone tell me how to enable OpenGL hardware support?
[12:34] <cr3_> cafuego, thank you
[12:34] <Ryan__> it would have been cool to have a read me to know about the commands and know what to do
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: did you pass?..lol
[12:34] <Ryan__> yepper
[12:34] <Ryan__> this install is fresh so yea
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: all you have to do is type rkhunter, and it shows you all the commands.
[12:34] <rabiddachshund> I tried to explore it from the windows explorer, nothing. I right clicked and opened it, a window came up and closed. I tried to cd into it from the dos, it gave an i/o error
[12:34] <omegacenti_> rabiddachshund: Microsoft probably thinks this is a "feature" for linux users. Allows them to think less about the complexities of which OS to choose.. They are right... "switches to full Linux box"
[12:34] <sebas_> what gcc parameter should I use to include gtkmm.h?
[12:34] <Ryan__> ahh k can you do that with any program
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: i didn't know if it would sense vulnerabilitis cuz you don't have a firewall.
[12:34] <Ryan__> Im new
[12:34] <rizhun> Is there a command like lsdev in linux ?
[12:34] <Yggdrasil> can somone explain to me how varrun varlock udev devshm lrm get thier partitoin sizes ? ihave one system of mine that has them set at 30 m and another they are 112 m
[12:34] <Ryan__> ahhh k
[12:34] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Ok, that has nothing to do with grub. Most likely the cd is just busted. Can you check the md5sum of the iso file?
[12:34] <HymnToLife> andyw, you need to install proper driver for your graphics card
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: no, not any program, alot of programs though, you can type, "programname --help", and a similar type set of instructions will come up
[12:35] <omegacenti_> cafuego: how do you check md5sum?
[12:35] <cafuego> omegacenti_: On linux, `md5sum <filename>'
[12:35] <cafuego> on Windows, I'd need to google.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> omegacenti_: md5sum filename
[12:35] <omegacenti_> thanks cafuego
[12:35] <omegacenti_> thanks gnomefreak
[12:35] <rabiddachshund> well, I actually ordered 2 cds. Neither of them work on vista, both of them work on xp and my dapper laptop just sucks, so it won't mount.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> theres a tool on windows to do it
[12:35] <Ryan__> how do you make firestarter start at boot up?
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: i'm downloading a torrent now, at around 400k... so i sincerely doubt its aen told.n ubuntu feisty issue, no matter what you've be
[12:35] <Jowi> omegacenti_, nah, just playing around trying to improve myself at the same time ;)
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> oops, no matter what you've been told, i hate this laptop keyboard
[12:36] <cafuego> http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe
[12:36] <Dougla1> anyone can open my eyes from my problem with webcam genius camlook ?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: it should start on start up you just may not see the GUI
[12:36] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Same here :) I'm trying to spend time in here tyring to learn all I can from others problems with using the software.
[12:36] <sebas_> Ryan__ I think that firestarter runs automatically at boot
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> Dougla1: webcam support is very hit/miss with LInux, your best bet is google.
[12:36] <Ryan__> ok I have to start it manually for it to appear as a tray icon
[12:36] <Bensel> Ah, got it, had to Load "record"
[12:36] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Is the vista bachine set up to try booting from CD is a cd is present?
[12:36] <cr3_> I've installed 'powernowd' and when I try to change freq, it says :
[12:36] <cr3_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24776/plain/
[12:36] <Dougla1> IndyGunFreak: i find very much in google..
[12:36] <Ryan__> is it like that for everyone?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: its running anyway in the background
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: isn't it IPTables that runs at boot?.. not firestarter?
[12:37] <Ryan__> oh ok
[12:37] <Ryan__> cool thanks
[12:37] <Skwid_> Jowi: any other suggestion ?
[12:37] <rabiddachshund> cafuego: yes. In fact, i've manually booted from cd multiple times, but it just defaults to windows.
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> !iptables
[12:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:37] <ceil420> Can't FUCK wit' {uX} when we're blazed XD http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4686/shot0012uk7.png
[12:37] <gnomefreak> IndyGunFreak: yes firestarter is GUI to iptables
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> gnomefreak: oh ok...
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> i see
[12:37] <cafuego> ceil420: Why are you spamming?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ceil420: please watch your language
[12:37] <rabiddachshund> like it's purposely breaking the cd drive to force windows to load.
[12:37] <Jowi> Skwid_, still looking. did you try to save the session after you closed that window?
[12:37] <Ryan__> so even if it closes in the tray its still running?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: yes
[12:38] <rabiddachshund> disabling, not breaking**
[12:38] <Ryan__> kk
[12:38] <Skwid_> Jowi: no, ill do that
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: i'm not sure.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: iptables are part of the kernel iirc
[12:38] <cafuego> cr3_: As far as I can tell, that means you have 2 cpu cores, each can be scaled between 2.4 and 2.8 GHz.
[12:38] <Yggdrasil> can somone explain to me how varrun varlock udev devshm lrm get thier partitoin sizes ? ihave one system of mine that has them set at 30 m and another they are 112 m
[12:38] <cr3_> cafuego, why?
[12:38] <omegacenti_> Ooooo didn't even know about iptables... nice
[12:38] <Siph0n> hey... im having some trouble with bluetooth... i have a Motorola SLVR cellphone, and trying to send songs from my laptop to it over bluetooth, but Bluetooth Manager doesnt work... any ideas?
[12:39] <quaala> why the hell wont ubuntu recognize my usb drives all of a sudden
[12:39] <omegacenti_> How secure is iptables? can it be "hacked" ?
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> !bluetooth
[12:39] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Well, if it also wouldn't work on the other machine, chances are the disc is busted... in which case the cd's firmware won't report it as bootable, and the system will just skip it.
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Vista is *not* loaded at that stage, so it *can't* interfere.
[12:39] <cafuego> cr3_: 2400Mhz - 2800Mhz (2 steps)
[12:39] <GenNMX> Anyone familiar with Linux Software RAID? I was wondering if I could increase the size of my RAID1, or if I could use LVM with it.
[12:39] <rabiddachshund> no, it _did_ work on the other machine
[12:39] <cafuego> cr3_: So they can run at 2.4 *or* 2.8
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Ah ok
[12:39] <Ryan__> thanks all Im gonna go
[12:39] <Ryan__> see ya later!
[12:39] <andyw> I'm trying to run Google Earth in Ubuntu 7.04 in Parallels 3.0, but I can't get hardware support to work.  Google Earth will only run in software OpenGl mode.  Can anyone help?
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Other discs fine in th vista box?
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> rabiddachshund: just google "SUper Grub Disk", and create a bootable floppy... it'll end your headaches
[12:40] <rabiddachshund> thx
[12:40] <rabiddachshund> :( i did'nt think to check
[12:40] <ubuB0nk3rs> andyw
[12:40] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: Can you create a Suber GRUB usb stick?
[12:40] <ubuB0nk3rs> in parallels
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i'm pretty sure, as long as your PC can boot a USB device
[12:40] <ubuB0nk3rs> your emulating generic hardware
[12:40] <cafuego> cr3_: You running gnome?
[12:40] <omegacenti_> What is parallels?
[12:41] <cr3_> cafuego, is there any way I can switch cpufreqd on/off? :P because, I've noticed that when i uninstalled it, cpu freq was set as I set it in BIOS. But when its installed, it switches cpufreq to MAX
[12:41] <andyw> parallels 3.0 supports openGL though
[12:41] <cr3_> cafuego, yes
[12:41] <andyw> parallels is virtualization software for the mac
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> !parallels
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <omegacenti_> andyw: thanks
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> !parallel
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <rabiddachshund> crap. all of my music is mp3 so i have no cd's to test, brb
[12:41] <cafuego> cr3_: Ok, run 'dpkg-reconfugure gnome-applets' and answer 'yes' to the suid question.
[12:41] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I already looked in the factoids section :)
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol, oh.. so you can't create a bootable USB?
[12:41] <andyw> ubotu
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> w/ grub
[12:42] <cafuego> cr3_: You can then add the cpu frequency scaling applet to your panel (right click the panel, choose 'add')
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[12:42] <andyw> thanks
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> i'm not sure, never done it,
[12:42] <cafuego> cr3_: And then by clicking the panel you can choose speeds and/or governors, which handle speed setting.
[12:42] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: No I don't know, when you were trying to !parallel, I was saying I already looked :) I ask questions when I can't easily find the answer after trying a few times.
[12:42] <paddyvaughan> hi
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: oh ok..lol, sorry, my sarcasm detector is very low today.
[12:42] <paddyvaughan> hi indy
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: whats up.
[12:43] <cr3_> cafuego, there's only 2.4/2.8Ghzz :P
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> did it work?
[12:43] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I try and leave out sarcasm :)
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol
[12:43] <paddyvaughan> not yet, my cd burners messed, but i think i got it burnt, but i cant change the boot order, like, how do i make it boot from cd? i cant seem to find it
[12:43] <rabiddachshund> ok, i can play music and itunes gathers the cd data, so apparently my drive is fine. The feisty cds still boot on xp, so they're fine.
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: thats in your bios....
[12:43] <cafuego> cr3_: Yup, that's read out of the hardware. It's possible there are more, but if the acpi bios isn't reporting them properly... Linux won't know about 'em.
[12:44] <cafuego> cr3_: What cpu is it specifically?
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> press Delete(or F1) while the pC is booting
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> i know indy, but when i press f2 to enter it theres like 1 option
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> isnt it f2?
[12:44] <omegacenti_> Is there any way to turn off JUST the tapping feature on touchpads? I have tried unsuccesfully to remove it.
[12:44] <cr3_> cafuego, so let's say i change speed to min in BIOS (1.4Ghz) and when I need full cpu speed I run cpufreq and it switches to MAX... is that possible?
[12:44] <cr3_> cafuego, pentium D
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: ok, it may be F2, theres a lot of different ways on different computers
[12:44] <omegacenti_> paddyvaughan: usually f2
[12:44] <Jowi> paddyvaughan, depends on the bios which key to press.
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: whats that one option?
[12:44] <omegacenti_> Keyword though is usually.
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> this just takes me to a weird bios, it was never like it before
[12:44] <GenNMX> Does anyone know if the bugs with OCE w/ raid6 have been fixed?
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> 1sec ill find it
[12:45] <TaJMoX> i had a bios which required PGDN key to enter cmos setup
[12:45] <cr3_> cafuego, I seems it supports Speedstepping...
[12:45] <cr3_> *it
[12:45] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i spent about 5 hours on the azureus help channel trying to fix this yesterday, and nothing worked. i don't see what else could be going on
[12:45] <ryanakca> is it possible to install libgnutls13 from (feisty?) onto my ubuntu server (6.06), since libgnutls12 (dapper version) contains a "severe security risk" http://www.sixxs.net/forum/?msg=setup-492260
[12:45] <cafuego> cr3_: i'm trying to google and see what the hardware actually supports in terms of steps.
[12:45] <TTT_Travis> Jowi I solved my problem, just took the video card out and reseated it, must have been dusty, thanks for you help!
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: all i'm saying, is i'm downloading at around 450-500k right now, so its not Feisty
[12:45] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I use to work directly with azureus support, what seems to be thr problem?
[12:46] <tritium> ryanakca: it should be fixed within dapper
[12:46] <paddyvaughan> nm indy got it
[12:46] <MKS> After TWO days of utter frustration and searching I found a important answer to failed installations: here is the link: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+question/7135
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: ok...lol
[12:46] <rabiddachshund> it's got to be something in the bios then
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: did you print that webpage?
[12:46] <CaptainMorgan> omg - disk analyzer is so cool
[12:46] <bruenig> pointless
[12:46] <MKS> just to share
[12:46] <paddyvaughan> yeah, but my goddamn pc wont burn properly :@
[12:46] <seniortaco> bb
[12:47] <rabiddachshund> It's an hp laptop, and they host a bunch of bios files. Which one should I be looking for?
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> uh, ok.
[12:47] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: Is it installed by default in ubuntu? Where can I get disk analyzer?
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol;
[12:47] <MKS> hope this helps someone in the future
[12:47] <tritium> MKS: failed installations of _what_?
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: why won't it burn properly?
[12:47] <CaptainMorgan> omegacenti_, Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[12:47] <bruenig> MKS, probably better to put it in the forums, a passing comment on irc doesn't help much
[12:47] <CaptainMorgan> very cool
[12:47] <MKS> tritium, really 'any' pkg... apparently...
[12:47] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: Wow. Thanks!
[12:48] <tritium> MKS: no, virtual box, apparently
[12:48] <RabidWeezle> how can I manually set gdm as my display manager?
[12:48] <CaptainMorgan> omegacenti_, I was studying makeup's of hdd's recently and today I found that this prog is default.. nice
[12:48] <RabidWeezle> I installed kde and it's using kdm
[12:48] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: so far its amazing
[12:48] <MKS> virtual box, but if you read it, could be any pkg that needs a serial number, or some interaction
[12:48] <OhMyAudi> !deluge
[12:48] <RabidWeezle> !gdm
[12:48] <MKS> and ends up in an 'empty' installation
[12:48] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <MKS> the 'solution' is second last
[12:48] <bruenig> RabidWeezle, you can only have 1 dm installed at once right? if not try editing /etc/inittab if it exists
[12:48] <MKS> just a fyi
[12:48] <Rubiks99> could someone help me to install CGI.pm on ubuntu server? please
[12:49] <MKS> solution is to 'force' removal
[12:49] <ryanakca> tritium: ok... so, I can use libgnutls12? would libgnutls13 work on my system, or would it break everything?
[12:49] <RabidWeezle> thanks bruenig
[12:49] <MKS> otherwise, all synaptics are killed, no updates etc.
[12:49] <MKS> reallly a major issue
[12:49] <osolomio> trying to install, get as far 64% examing disk, then freeze,was xp
[12:50] <omegacenti_> Is there any way to turn off JUST the tapping feature on touchpads? I have tried unsuccesfully to remove it.
[12:50] <MKS> yes, i know this is not the 'best' place for it, but you guys might remember it later...
[12:50] <tritium> ryanakca: I'm suggesting that a security fix is likely to be released
[12:50] <Yggdrasil> omegacenti_ its under /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:50] <tritium> MKS: not sure who'd actually run into that situation, though
[12:50] <Yggdrasil> maybe man synaptics
[12:50] <Yggdrasil> cant remember
[12:50] <osolomio> beginer need help installing, where to go please?
[12:50] <omegacenti_> Yggdrasil: Thanks, Ill check out xorg.conf to see if it has something akin to "disable tap". I appreciate it!
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> man synaptics dood
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> bbl
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> yw
[12:51] <CaptainMorgan> omegacenti_, http://library.gnome.org/baobab/unstable/index.html.en
[12:51] <ryanakca> tritium: ok
[12:51] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i'm having issues with my torrents sporadically stopping/starting in kubuntu feisty
[12:51] <tritium> ryanakca: dependencies could make trying to upgrade that package a p.i.t.a.
[12:52] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: Thanks! :)
[12:52] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Does anything else seem to exhibit the same behavior?
[12:52] <n2diy_> I just installed Korganizer on to my Dapper box, I imported my .ics file from my FC1 box, and everything looks ok, but my appointment alarms, don't alarm?
[12:52] <ryanakca> tritium: ok, cheers (ps: any way to find all the packages on my system that depend on it?)
[12:52] <tritium> ryanakca: I suggest you wait for the security fix.  If you want to, file a bug, reference the vulnerability, and maybe it'll get the fix out sooner
[12:52] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: well, i almost all network connectivity - web browsing doesn't work, but irc/im works
[12:52] <tritium> ryanakca: apt-cache rdepends <package_name>
[12:52] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: and it happens in azureus and ktorrent
[12:52] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Are you using a router/modem setup?
[12:53] <ryanakca> tritium: ok, well, it's been known for several months now, and thanks :)
[12:53] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah, speedstream modem and linksys router
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: if you're using a router.. try disconnecting you router, and connecting your modem to your PC, and see if you still have the issue.
[12:53] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I think I might have found out your problem.
[12:53] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: and this happens only kubuntu feisty, not in kubuntu dapper or winxp
[12:54] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Might it be a wrt54g or any variant of that name in similarity?
[12:54] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah, i already heard this suggestion on the azureus channel
[12:54] <secleinteer> but i have pppoe and idk if i can do that
[12:54] <secleinteer> yeah, it's a wrt54g
[12:54] <MKS> tritium, well, you might have a point, but upon searching, there apparently is many, and I did, but did not post...
[12:54] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: One thing that you may benefit from doing is setting up some Quality of service ruling.
[12:54] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know where there is a place that i can see settings for the way the "window list" sizes the opened applications? (like so when i have one window it will take up the whole area.. and 3, each will take up a 3rd..).. any ideas?
[12:54] <rabiddachshund> why wouldn't you be able to set up a pppoe on the computer?
[12:54] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: the guy suggested installing dd-wrt at first, but i have v5, so he said that was pointless because the micro version was no use
[12:54] <ryanakca> tritium: heh, no point in upgrading the package, looks like half my server depends on it
[12:54] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: quality of service?
[12:54] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Anotherthing you could do is replace the onboard firmware with a third party firmware called DDwrt.
[12:55] <jrib> ryanakca: note that security fixes are often added but the version is not upgraded
[12:55] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: read above about dd-wrt
[12:55] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: The micro version is great.
[12:55] <MKS> well, I've got to go now, havent eaten in two days... i want this to work, no matter how much pain.
[12:55] <jrib> ryanakca: check the changelog for the package
[12:55] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: he said it had very few features, so i wouldn't be able to change the setting i needed to
[12:55] <ryanakca> jrib: ok, thanks
[12:55] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: What we are looking to do is install some rules as to how your router handles traffic load by giving priority to certain functions and ports.
[12:55] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah, i heard about this
[12:56] <tritium> jrib: good point ;)
[12:56] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Fix it if its broken is what I say :) Try using micro, see if you like it, see if it just handles trafiic better than the standard firmware.
[12:56] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: this is the kernel error message: " Jun 7 18:23:35 kakkarot kernel: [16921.186035]  NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out"
[12:56] <MKS> tritium, oh, it also can fail on real player and several more programs, search for the complete error message and you will be amazed at how often this   situation comes up...
[12:56] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: ok, i'll try micro
[12:56] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: no chance it will exacerbate the issue?
[12:57] <tritium> MKS: okay
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, no chance?...lol
[12:57] <r00723r0> anyone know what package i can find GtkGLExt Python bindings in?
[12:57] <MKS> tritium, at the rate i'm going, i should become an expert soon... lol...
[12:57] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Its because the router and linux have issues with how long they retain connection memory. Linux has something about 5 days worth of connection memory and the wrt54g quickly craps out with all the memory overloading.
[12:57] <MKS> i'm outta here! thanks to all those helpers here!
[12:57] <Hillview> MKS, that's half the fun. ;)
[12:57] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: If it does you can always reinstall the original
[12:57] <xjkx> When remotely vncing a machine, the user cant use accent keys, whats wrong? i mean, keyboard special characters :/
[12:57] <jrib> r00723r0: there is a bug about the package not existing in the repositories.  The bug's comments contain a link to a deb for them.  Search bugs.ubuntu.com, let me know if you can't find it
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: thats interesting, i always wondered why linux users wanted the different firmware
[12:58] <r00723r0> jrib: ok
[12:58] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know where there is a place that i can see settings for the way the "window list" sizes the opened applications? (like so when i have one window it will take up the whole area.. and 3, each will take up a 3rd..).. any ideas?
[12:58] <MKS> Hillview, you know how to tell the pioneers: they are the ones with the arrows in their back!
[12:58] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Also, if the micro might happen to have the feature we are looking for it could be useful... I will try and find some links for you throughout the day.
[12:58] <MKS> night everyone!
[12:59] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: in dd-wrt you can veen set max connections up from standard 512 to 4096!
[12:59] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I found this helped immensely
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: hmm, interesting.
[12:59] <cr3_> cafuego, in any case, why can I change cpu frequency in bios, but can't do it while running ubuntu?
[01:00] <Jowi> Tarkus, that is the job for the window manager. in gnome it is not possible as far as I know to save the size of the window.
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: wouldn't it just be easier to get a netgear or d-link wireless router?
[01:00] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I was having the exact same problems as you and it turned out setting up QoS helped a bunch. If you wish to dive into that either now or while you are using dd-wrt
[01:00] <Riky> Hi, does enyone knows if the Dell Inspiron 6400 its supported to run Ubuntu 7.04?
[01:00] <Skwid_> Jowi: nope, i closed it and saved the session, restarted x, and i still have the window opening when i log back in
[01:00] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I detest D-link with the very drawls in the depts of my dreary heart. Alliteration FTW
[01:00] <jrib> !laptop > Riky (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol.. i always thought D-link was pretty good(i personally use a Netgear wired router, no wireless0
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> )
[01:01] <Riky> thanks jrib
[01:01] <Jell1> hi, I have a rather weird and dangerous problem: In my trash applet, my WHOLE system files appear... It happened last week already, and it made me lose 230Go of data... After posting on forums and without finding an explanation to this, I decided to reinstall my Feisty. Today, it happened again. If I look in my trash applet, I can see everything I have from any of my hard disks. Does anyone have ever heard of something like this? Thanks.
[01:01] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: Best will always still be Cysco. You get what you pay for.
[01:01] <cafuego> cr3_: to 1.4Ghz you mean? I dunno, I'd hazard a buggy bios, which means the kernel can't see all power states.
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: no dout about that.
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> doubt
[01:02] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak:  :)
[01:02] <SimAtWork> Jell1: i have never heard of that before
[01:02] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: what IS a quality of service?
[01:02] <Dunkel_> hello
[01:02] <younghacker> who knows about the FCE Ultra (Nes Emulator) whats the command line to run it
[01:02] <Dunkel_> i need some help
[01:03] <Dunkel_> i have just installed ubunto on my laptop
[01:03] <Dunkel_> but there is no sound :S
[01:03] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: it is a system in which priority is given to certain kinds of traffic between your computer and the router. It essentially keeps things like Azureus and other p2p software from swamping the box with too many connections /sec.
[01:03] <cafuego> cr3_: I guess check and see if there is a newer bios on the manufacturer's website.
[01:03] <cr3_> ok
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: first, its UbuntU.. second, what type of sound device?
[01:03] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: ok, how do i set this up?
[01:03] <Dunkel_> can anyone help me?
[01:04] <younghacker> nobody knows?
[01:04] <RabidWeezle> alright, what file do I edit to change it from loading kdm to gdm?
[01:04] <Jell1> SimAtWork: I guess i'll post a bug report, hope they won't find me crazy.... thanks
[01:04] <cafuego> cr3_: it'd be interesting to see what happens when you set it to 1.4Ghz in the bios and then boot Linux, see what powernow reports *then*
[01:04] <Jowi> omegacenti_, after working at D-Link tech support I detest their products as well :)
[01:04] <Dunkel_> sorry xD... is a... mmm integrated sound card
[01:04] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: for instance, you set gaming ports, web traffic, and any other traffic that is small and desirable to be high priority while setting things like p2p traffic which is bulk traffic to be very low priority.
[01:04] <SimAtWork> Jell1: they are going to find you crazy
[01:04] <jrib> Jell1: they are in your trash right now?
[01:04] <Jell1> SimAtWork: doh ! :)
[01:04] <SimAtWork> Jell1: are the files showing in trash but not in the trash?
[01:04] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Yay! agreement from a mentor! ^_^
[01:04] <Dunkel_> is something like AC'97 or something like that
[01:04] <SimAtWork> Jell1: can you take a screen shot and paste it somewhere?  i'd like to see exactly whatyou're seeing
[01:04] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: ok, now how do i set this up? from the router config page?
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: open a terminal.... type "lspci".... no quotes.... after hitting enter, its gonna spit out some junk about your PCi devices, look for a line like this...  02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12)
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> tell me what that says
[01:05] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: one sec need to access my router.
[01:05] <Jell1> SimAtWork: absolutly, they appear only in the trash-applet, but not in .trash on each partitions.
[01:05] <Jowi> Skwid_, I don't know where to look to be honest. gconf-editor turned up nothing.
[01:05] <SimAtWork> Jell1: but the files aren't actually deleted?
[01:05] <Skwid_> Jowi: ok., thanks anyhow :)
[01:05] <omegacenti_> okay secleinteer first thing off do you know what a speed test is?
[01:05] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah
[01:05] <Jell1> SimAtWork: they are :(  I already lost 230Go...
[01:05] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i found the page in the router config
[01:06] <Dunkel_> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:06] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: what do i do now?
[01:06] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Then I would like you to close off anything that is using your connection in any ways and do 3 speed tests and average their results together.
[01:06] <Dunkel_> :D
[01:06] <r00723r0> jrib: you there?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: ok, hangon
[01:06] <jrib> r00723r0: yep
[01:06] <cr3_> cafuego, it just scales it to MAX, but when I removed cpufreq, it was still 1.4Ghz
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:06] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: do you need exact numbers? because i already know what it is
[01:06] <r00723r0> jrib: my libc6 is too out-of-date to work, and so is my pango
[01:06] <Dunkel_> the newest i think
[01:06] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: 321 kB/s down and 53 kB/s up
[01:07] <jrib> r00723r0: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:07] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: If those are the numbers reported by your ISP than thats no good..
[01:07] <Dunkel_> 7.04
[01:07] <cafuego> cr3_: AMX being 2.8 again?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> well are you or aren't you?
[01:07] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: no, i tested myself to get them
[01:07] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Ah you have already tested extensively.
[01:07] <cr3_> cafuego, but I dont know how to change it without rebooting
[01:07] <Jell1> SimAtWork: I've even made a video to convince people: http://dl.free.fr/17A5S89d/trashmadness.avi
[01:07] <cr3_> cafuego, AMX?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: system Menu, About Ubuntu
[01:07] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Great! alright one sec while I look at the QoS page.
[01:07] <secleinteer> kk
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> second paragraph will say what version
[01:07] <r00723r0> jrib: how do i check?
[01:07] <Dunkel_> Ubuntu 7.04 - Feisty Fawn
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> dunkel, ok
[01:08] <tritium> r00723r0: lsb_release -a
[01:08] <r00723r0> 7.04
[01:08] <r00723r0> jrib: ^^
[01:08] <cafuego> cr3_: MAX - typo
[01:08] <[agatha] > hum... hi guys... got a tiny question when you have a minute
[01:08] <aliasrush> can two different linux partitions share the same home partition with the same users?
[01:08] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Bleh, just remembered how bland the QoS page on standard firmware for the wrt54g looks... It doesn't have some options but we can still set up something that will work.
[01:08] <Dunkel_> :(
[01:08] <Jell1> [agatha] : don't wait trust me :)
[01:09] <SimAtWork> Jell1: you don't happen to have a cat or something do you? dragging all your files to trash while you sleep? :)
[01:09] <[agatha] > hum... just shoot? so nice
[01:09] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Okay now I am going by memory and I will need you help with all the different options before you
[01:09] <jrib> r00723r0: hmm, I'm pretty sure the linked deb worked for a few people.  Can you link me to the bug you found?
[01:09] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i can install dd-wrt in that case
[01:09] <secleinteer> do you know anything about that?
[01:09] <Jowi> [agatha] , the more precise you are with the description of your problem the more likely you will get a good answer :)
[01:09] <r00723r0> jrib: there are multiple
[01:09] <Jell1> SimAtWork: I just ate it... might be the dog actually..
[01:10] <r00723r0> but i can show you the download page
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: is that an Acer latop?
[01:10] <buggy> Hi - Does anyone know of a Linux compatible Video capture PCI/card or USB that supports A/V In/Out red/white/yelleow jacks/firewire/s-video, cable - etc?
[01:10] <[agatha] > well look guys got a friend he was trying to install ubuntu... 7.04 from the live cd.. in some point he has had an error and accepted,.. the installation went on but got a black screen and rebooted the system... any hope to recover all the windows partition?
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I am not currently using a wrt54g anyways so it won't help much
[01:10] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: you mean for install dd-wrt?
[01:10] <RabidWeezle> Can anyone tell me what file calls gdm or kdm? I can't seem to find it. KDE changed it to kdm when I installed it, and I want to change it back to gdm since I will be using gnome
[01:10] <Dunkel_> no, it is a gateway one
[01:10] <[agatha] > sorry Jowi  he doesnt even know the error he has had -.-
[01:10] <clarkey> Hi I have a problem with beryl, I have reinstalled feisty and tried to get beryl up and running again I have managed to get it all installed with XGL on a Radeon Mobility chip but now when I right click the icon and select beryl nothing seems to happen it just stays looking and acting like metacity any ideas?
[01:10] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i think i'll just install dd-wrt and get it over with
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I am using a linksys N draft router.
[01:10] <secleinteer> kk
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: sounds good to me
[01:10] <cr3_> cafuego, as I said, ubuntu always scales cpu frequency to Max (2.4-2.8 Ghz - it's max frequency, isn't :P), even if I set speed in BIOS
[01:10] <tritium> RabidWeezle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, and choose gdm
[01:10] <[agatha] > just some error accept andblack screen... installation was not complete tho
[01:10] <Dunkel_> i found a forum in wich they say something about modify a file... i dit it but it still doesnt work
[01:10] <RabidWeezle> clarkey I have the same problem, how much ram you have on that mobility?
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I really enjoyed the dd-wrt software.
[01:11] <toed> how can I set the resolution in DPI of my monitor?
[01:11] <SimAtWork> Jell1: now.. if they're in trash.. can't you just undelete them?
[01:11] <clarkey> I think it may be shared memory but im not sure
[01:11] <SimAtWork> Jell1: btw, your desktop looks so beautiful.
[01:11] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: "dd-wrt.v23_micro_wrt54g.bin" <-- does that look right?
[01:11] <cr3_> cafuego, i'm going to go sleep now - it's 1 am here :P
[01:11] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: No idea :)
[01:11] <secleinteer> damn
[01:11] <cafuego> cr3_: Well, there was a chance MAX would be 1.4 if that's what you set in the bios. I wonder if it's a typo and it's meant to say 2.4 and not 1.4...
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: everything I'm reading isn't good.. try reading this link, see if it works..  http://weichen.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/upgrade-to-ubuntu-feisty-solve-some-problems/
[01:11] <Jell1> SimAtWork: How? (oh thanks :)  )
[01:11] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: but it sounds about right... maybe.. don't kill me if its not :(
[01:11] <clarkey> Rabidweezle also I had it working before I reinstalled for other reasons
[01:11] <SimAtWork> Jell1: drag them from trash back to where they belong?
[01:12] <Jell1> SimAtWork: drag them back?
[01:12] <Jowi> [agatha] , hard to give a good answer, but starting windows in recovery mode and run the fixmbr command or similar (you really should ask in ##windows) should fix the boot for windows. appart from that a re-install of ubuntu could also solve it. hard to say with so little info.
[01:12] <Jell1> SimAtWork: i'll try
[01:12] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i'm going to make sure it's right, i don't want to brick my router
[01:12] <hunterp> i want to take a screen shot, hit ctrl-v and paste the image directly into an email. how can i do this?
[01:12] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: sounds good to me.
[01:12] <RabidWeezle> clarkey how many megs of video ram again?
[01:12] <jrib> hunterp: press PrintScreen to take a screenshot and save it as a file
[01:12] <Dunkel_> let me see :(
[01:12] <ace_suares> Life's Short. Don't Pay for Software.
[01:12] <omegacenti_> jrib: how do you save it as a file.
[01:13] <hunterp> jrib: thats way too many clicks
[01:13] <jrib> omegacenti_: it asks you to when you press PrintScreen
[01:13] <[agatha] > thaks Jowi  ill tell him to try to reinstall and at least get the error... so i can come and ask here... he's got a lot of data he doesnt want to lose... problem is that now windows doesnt boot either... gets stucked inthe begining...so maybe its better to try to reinstall
[01:13] <clarkey> Rabidweezle not sure  how do I check
[01:13] <SimAtWork> Jell1: did it work?
[01:13] <omegacenti_> jrib: WOW! never pushed it in ubuntu before Cool! thanks!
[01:13] <wyth> Curious here -- has anyone got Tracker running?
[01:13] <tritium> toed: DisplaySize
[01:14] <toed> what's that?
[01:14] <tritium> RabidWeezle: did you run that successfully yet?
[01:14] <jrib> r00723r0: this is the bug I was referring to, see the second to last comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/71593
[01:14] <omegacenti_> hey hunterpIt looks as though the screenshot preview is draggable.
[01:14] <tritium> toed: to specify the size of your Display in DPI
[01:14] <ice9> does anyone here xchat
[01:14] <[agatha] > and hum guys i'd need some kind of page with general linux commands and so on... 2 days running ubuntu... and im quite lost
[01:14] <clarkey> Rabidweezle all I can find on it is "RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] "
[01:14] <Jowi> [agatha] , it also depends on what ubuntu install options your friend selected. if (s)he tried to resize the win partition, use all available space on the disk and so on.
[01:14] <omegacenti_> hunterp: It also seems that you might be able to right click it and save it
[01:14] <ice9> does anyone use xchat with fish ?
[01:14] <ice9> I needs a little help
[01:14] <Jell1> SimAtWork: no I can't, because if I open a folder which is in the trash applet, the path change to where it is in reality: the right place. O_o wtf
[01:14] <Jowi> !commands | [agatha]
[01:14] <ubotu> [agatha] : The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:14] <Skwid_> is there a way to have the password for the keyring remembered so that i can connect to my wifi without having to enter my password each session ?????
[01:14] <[agatha] > he tried to resize partitions Jowi
[01:14] <sebas_> !bakery
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bakery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <RabidWeezle> alright, there is a list clarkey of cards that just do not work for beryl, goto a console and type in lspci and it will show you your exact name for your mobility, and check it on the beryl compatibility list, but there is a cheap hack to getting it working usally, in your xorg.cfg file do a Option "AGPSize" "32" under your ati device, and that will get it working, but I am not suggesting it
[01:15] <tritium> toed: are you using nVidia?  If so, there's a "DPI" option
[01:15] <SimAtWork> Jell1: maybe you should disable that trahs applet? it sounds like it's screwy
[01:15] <jrib> omegacenti_: nice, I didn't know you could do that
[01:15] <ice9> !xchat
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <Jowi> [agatha] , see the last link ubotu spat out. it's quite good.
[01:15] <ice9> !blowfish
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blowfish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <tritium> !botabuse
[01:15] <ice9> !fish
[01:15] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <omegacenti_> jrib: I fury of clicking has never failed me! :)
[01:15] <RabidWeezle> clarkey sorry, I mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:15] <wyth> do you need to use xchat?  I'm using Pidgin with no trouble
[01:15] <Jell1> SimAtWork: indeed... but why is the question. ... err, i'll report a bug
[01:15] <[agatha] > oki ill bookmark it...to be honest i installed ubuntu in a moment of passion deleted windows from my hd... and now well i like it but im lost :P
[01:15] <clarkey> Rabidweezle thanks
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> wyth: pidgin sucks for irc.. use xchat, xchat-gnome, or irssi
[01:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: not konversation?
[01:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: Is Xchat good?
[01:16] <wyth> why does Pidgin suck for it?  It's working fine for me -- I'm on it  now
[01:16] <[agatha] > pretty good yes omegacenti_
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i consider any KDE app, except amarok, :), the DEVIL...lol
[01:16] <omegacenti_> Jowi: What do you use for IRC?
[01:16] <RabidWeezle> but if you don't have a decent amount of video ram clarkey, you will want to kill all uneeded effects else it will run slower than frozen mallassas
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i like xchat-gnome, but some don't.. xchat is good to though..
[01:16] <Jowi> omegacenti_, xchat (the non-gnome version)
[01:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: lol why? <Im still new to linux>
[01:16] <clarkey> Rabidweezle ok
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> irssi is for the tweaker inside all of us.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: KDE to me, 1.  Looks like my 5yr old nephew deisgned the graphics.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> 2.  Its slower than thanksgiving dinner
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> 3.  ITS SLOWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwww
[01:17] <omegacenti_> Any reason to use the gnome version over the non gnome?
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> 4.  ITS SLOWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwww
[01:17] <xjkx> when remotely vncing a machine, the user cant use accent keys, whats wrong? i mean, keyboard special characters :/
[01:17] <omegacenti_> I get the point.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i like the interface of the xchat-gnome better than xchat.
[01:17] <Jell1> SimAtWork: do you know another way to empty the trash without having to take ./trash one by one?
[01:17] <sebas_> how do I run libbakery?
[01:17] <Skwid_> is there a way to have the password for the keyring remembered so that i can connect to my wifi without having to enter my password each session ?????
[01:18] <omegacenti_> xjkx: Does the right click menu have anything like "use special characters" ?
[01:18] <wyth> IndyGunFreak: What's Pidgin's problem in irc?
[01:18] <wobx> re
[01:18] <Dunkel_> still no sound :(
[01:18] <SimAtWork> Jell1: find out where the trahs folder is and mv it out from cli?
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> wyth: no problem at all, i just think it absolutely sucks compared to an actual irc client, if you like it, by all means, use it.
[01:18] <wyth> Skwid_: you need the pam keyring
[01:18] <Skwid_> wyth: huh ?
[01:18] <wyth> let me get a link
[01:18] <omegacenti_> !xchat
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <omegacenti_> Ill look for it in the repositories.
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: ok....  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/107777    read it and weep
[01:19] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: How does it compare to mIRC?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: its pretty similar. i guess, its been a gazillion years since i used mirc.
[01:19] <Jell1> SimAtWork: hum... I have trash folders in /home, /Bigmama, /whatever etc... btw what is "cli"?
[01:19] <clarkey> Rabidweezle where do I find this list?
[01:19] <SimAtWork> Jell1: command line interface
[01:19] <[agatha] > been 2 years here IndyGunFreak... pretty much the same
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Jell1: command line interface
[01:19] <[agatha] > *2 days
[01:19] <Gabey> whats a good alternative for skype, or is it the best program so far?
[01:19] <Jell1> ok
[01:20] <AlexSeif> Hi I'm having problems understanding firehol, I need to set it up so that i can use php, mysql and apache
[01:20] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : So if I realy liked mIRC then I would like Xchat?
[01:20] <AlexSeif> I'm also having problems with vi
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : yeah, i doubt there's much difference.
[01:20] <AlexSeif> so please instruct me with somehing easy
[01:20] <wyth> Skwid_: sudo aptitude install libpam-keyring
[01:20] <[agatha] > omegacenti_,  i would say so.. i used mirc while on windows... now xchat... pretty much the same yes omegacenti_
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> vi?
[01:20] <N3XU5> ups. perdon..
[01:20] <tritium> !es | N3XU5
[01:20] <jrib> aliasrush: yes, though if you are running different versions of programs the config files may not work well on both versions
[01:20] <ubotu> N3XU5: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:20] <AlexSeif> vi
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: or xchat-gnome.
[01:20] <omegacenti_> thanks to both of you [agatha]  IndyGunFreak :)
[01:20] <Skwid_> wyth: thank you, do i need to do anything else ?
[01:20] <wyth> Skwid_: then do this: echo "@include common-pamkeyring" | sudo tee -a /etc/pam.d/gdm
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> xchat-gnome, its sound function is easier to set up than xchats
[01:21] <N3XU5> hmn.. sorry.
[01:21] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I will download both and try both out for a few hours.
[01:21] <marfeath> How can I get the url of a page that i am redirected to? (through command line only)
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i'm sur eyou'll like one of the two.
[01:21] <wyth> Swid_: It's under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:21] <[agatha] > yeap omegacenti_  i changed to xchat from xchat-ubuntu... but all is on tastes
[01:21] <AlexSeif> hello
[01:21] <Gabey> whats best? skype or is there an alternative?
[01:21] <AlexSeif> anybody knows firehol
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : xchat-ubuntu?
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> never heard of that one
[01:21] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Hmm... Do you remember your exact reasons why you switched?
[01:21] <cafuego> Gabey: There is no alternatively that runs the skype protocol, afaik.
[01:22] <[agatha] > dunno it was different of the normal xchat
[01:22] <AlexSeif> ok I'll come back later
[01:22] <wyth> Gabey: Skype's the most common, but there are others.  But you won't be able to talk to others who are on Skype
[01:22] <[agatha] > yes omegacenti_  i couldnt see the userlist
[01:22] <Jell1> SimAtWork: err... nah i don't get it. what do you mean by finding the trash. And if I find it and delete it, I'll lose all my files, no?
[01:22] <ice9> xchat and fish anyone
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : you sure it wan't xchat-gnome?
[01:22] <Gabey> cafuego and wyth: thanks
[01:22] <SimAtWork> Jell1: i really dunno, i'm confused :(
[01:22] <Dunkel_> wot should i do ?
[01:22] <SimAtWork> Jell1: and i have to go!
[01:22] <[agatha] > hum maybe IndyGunFreak ... probably in fact :P im a bit all messed up right at the moment... the one which came by default
[01:22] <wyth> Lemme ask again: Anyone got Tracker working?
[01:22] <[agatha] > so prolly was xchat-gnome
[01:22] <Jell1> SimAtWork: no pb, thanks anyway ;)
[01:22] <SimAtWork> Jell1: but if they're in trash they should be recoverable still.
[01:23] <Dunkel_> please help me.... is that about the drivers?
[01:23] <jrib> !anyone | wyth
[01:23] <ubotu> wyth: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:23] <kitsune> greyfrog: are you here?
[01:23] <SimAtWork> bye all
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : lol, no sweat, yeah, xchat-gnome comes with Ubuntu by default.
[01:23] <Jell1> SimAtWork: i hope :)
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[01:23] <omegacenti_> If I wanted to completely erase my Windows partition and somehow use the free space in its space to enlarge my current linux partition, could I do it?
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> if that doesn't work, you're probably hosed for the time being
[01:23] <[agatha] > hzhah IndyGunFreak  sorry again :P 2 days struggling with this... and im kind of a duck windows user... we'll see how the adventure ends up :D
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i think gparted will do that for you
[01:23] <[agatha] > omegacenti_,  i did it :P
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: sudo aptitude gparted
[01:24] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: is gparted gui or cl?
[01:24] <[agatha] > windows died :D
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: VERY gui...lol
[01:24] <Dunkel_> indygunfreak: im trying that but i dont understand the part of the alsa :S
[01:24] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I hate to say it but GUI's make me happy.
[01:24] <tritium> cool
[01:24] <wyth> ubotu: Okey dokey:  I had Tracker installed from repository.  It indexed everything.  Today I booted and it finds nothing, not even the stuff it showed before.  I'm wondering if anyone else had this problem, and if there's any fixes.  I tried installing the svn version, but I'm completely new to that stuff, and can't get trackerd to start
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: nothing wrong with that, they make me happy to..
[01:24] <davey_> can someone help me with azuris
[01:24] <davey_> it's not working
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: sorry, i can't be more help, i found several sites on your sound card, and all of them said they couldn't ge it to work
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: follow his instructions, they ar equite detailed.
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: what do you man you don't understand alsamixer?
[01:25] <omegacenti_> Okay so my agenda is: turning off trackmouse, deleting windows, using xchat... am I forgetting something?
[01:25] <petriborg> hello, is there a place i can find the list of default ubuntu entries that appear in /etc/passwd?
[01:26] <Ubuntu_CN> my computer run good
[01:26] <jrib> wyth: is trackerd running?
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> better than your english.. ;)
[01:26] <Ubuntu_CN> ok, my english is poor
[01:26] <petriborg> maybe it lives somewhere on the ubuntu live CD?
[01:26] <Dunkel_> the alsadrivers
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> Ubuntu_CN: i'm just razzin you, relax
[01:27] <wyth> jrib: nope -- when I started trackerd, I got: "file tracker-db-sqlite.c: line 450 (tracker_db_initialize): assertion failed: (False)"
[01:27] <magnetron> petriborg: hacking Ubuntu boxes, are you?
[01:27] <s3phiroth> hi there. what's the best ubuntu channel to ask about a problem with apache on feisty ?
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> dunkel... type this.. "/join #indygunfreak" no quotes
[01:28] <magnetron> s3phiroth: ask your question
[01:28] <jrib> wyth: haven't seen that.  I would google for that error and if nothing turns up, rename ~/.Tracker/ to ~/.Tracker.backup
[01:28] <petriborg> magnetron - obviously i'm trying to make sure *i'm* not hacked...
[01:28] <omegacenti_> Alright, wish me luck.. deleting my windows partition :)
[01:28] <[agatha] > hehe omegacenti_  good luck :D
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: Good luck....lol
[01:28] <s3phiroth> well basically, mod_rewrite isn't working. I upgraded this machine from edgy to feisty. now i needed it, i enabled it (sudo a2enmod rewrite), restarted apache and nothing
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> push comes to shove, just do a new insall, and takeover the whole drive
[01:29] <omegacenti_> I can hear something screaming in my laptop...
[01:29] <s3phiroth> i've already checked the symlinks on the mods_enabled directory and they're okay
[01:29] <wyth> jrib: I think I'm going to wipe everything and reinstall.  Tracker has some amazing potential, it impresses me far more than Beagle, but it takes some TLC setting up
[01:29] <[agatha] > my fan screams from time to time omegacenti_  xD
[01:29] <wyth> wipe all the Tracker stuff, that is
[01:29] <omegacenti_> oh? I just thought it was the soul of windows dying...
[01:29] <s3phiroth> already tried adding RewriteEngine On
[01:29] <jrib> wyth: well renaming .Tracker to .Tracker.backup essentially does that
[01:30] <wyth> jrib: I already removed /.Tracker when I tried to compile from svn, so it's gone.  What I noticed is after I compiled, those files didn't show up -- no tracker.cfg or anything.
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> my PCs/laptop lost their copies of Windows, long, long ago..
[01:30] <omegacenti_> Hmm, It doesn't seem like it wants to let me unmount sda1 (NTFS partition) Most likely other partitions are also mounted on these mountpoints. You are advised to unmount them manually.
[01:30] <omegacenti_> Any suggestions?
[01:30] <wyth> jrib: Do you have Tracker up and running?
[01:31] <jrib> wyth: and you started trackerd up again?  Yeah, I have it running here
[01:31] <[agatha] > cant help omegacenti_  i deleted my windows partition on installing... from the live cd sorry
[01:31] <[agatha] > its a hard step anyway IndyGunFreak
[01:31] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Doh.
[01:31] <[agatha] > i was so pissed off that told him to install in c/ straight away
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : yeah, believe it or not, i tried LInux for about 2.5yrs, before finally ridding myself of the dreaded M$ virus
[01:31] <s3phiroth> oh, and by the way: phpinfo() says mod_rewrite is enabled
[01:32] <erisco> Does anyone know of a bin2iso package? If so, what is the name of it? I have searched the respositories without any luck - perhaps I am missing the one I need
[01:32] <omegacenti_> Gah! can I force an unmount?
[01:32] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, did you like it at that time?
[01:32] <erisco> omegacenti_, sudo umount doesn't work?
[01:32] <[agatha] > hum i didnt... tried suse for a while, didnt like it... got desperate with windows and installed the ubuntu live cd... still afraid of what's gonna happen.. i read you guys an seems to meyou are speaking japanese -.-
[01:33] <bout> I usb connected my new HP photosmart C3180 to my os, howver it wont print, although its conected, how can I go about troubleshooting?
[01:33] <omegacenti_> erisco: I didnt try it... how would I unmount sda1 with that command?
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, sudo umount /sda1
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, I think
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: iliked it, but i had a LOT of trouble with it.
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, just type in $ mount and see what it is mounted as
[01:33] <omegacenti_> anyone disagree with erisco?
[01:33] <jrib> erisco: bchunk should do that (let you convert .bin to .iso)
[01:33] <bout> pherhaps the drivers arent loaded pls help
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, it won't blow anything up :P
[01:33] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, so what did you do
[01:33] <wyth> jrib: yeah, I ran trackerd.  The sequence was: A.) Installed from aptitude; B.) Indexed and everything was great; C.) Booted this morning, it found nothing; D.) Wiped it completely out, tried to compile from svn; E.) After compile, certain files I had after the previous install weren't there, and when I ran trackerd from the command line, I got the funky error
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> first distro i got to work almost completely, was PCLinuxOS .92...
[01:33] <ethereal> it would be: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[01:33] <erisco> jrib, thanks. I will try
[01:34] <omegacenti_> erisco: I have no idea how to implement "$ mount". Mind clarifying?
[01:34] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, "almost completely" -> quantify.
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: i just kept trying...tried many distros between, but i landed on xandros(bought it at compusa)... i liked it, used it for about 4mo, but couldn't get my TV card working
[01:34] <jrib> wyth: try running the repository one instead of svn
[01:34] <erisco> ethereal, I have been able to umount cdroms just as /cdrom and not /media/cdrom... IIRC. Doesn't really matter though :D
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: tv card wouldn't work, my video card would act goofy on occasion, etc.
[01:34] <erisco> omegacenti_, when something starts with that dollar sign it means to put it into your terminal :P
[01:34] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, and now  ... ?
[01:34] <foso> hey, im getting ready to install feisty on a old laptop, it only has a 3.81 gig hd, is that enough?
[01:34] <Ubuntu_CN> what's the best software about ire?
[01:34] <wyth> jrib: think I will.  Pizza's here -- gotta run.  Cheers.
[01:34] <M_42> I have a weird issue I am trying to share a folder with SMB, my win2k box can see the ubuntu box on workgroup but it says it needs a password
[01:35] <omegacenti_> erisco: oooo nifty... shows what everything is and where.. nice
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: well, then i tried FC5, after tryin ga couople between xandros and FC5... kept FC5,for about 5mo, but could never get my tv card working
[01:35] <omegacenti_> erisco: I am new but love to learn :)
[01:35] <erisco> omegacenti_, yes it does. You should see where sda1 is mounted
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> then i found Ubuntu(which I'd tried before, but it always locked up my system. around breezy)
[01:35] <tritium> M_42: have you run smbpasswd to give your user a samba password on the ubuntu box?
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> so i installed Dapper, and i been a *buntu freak ever since
[01:35] <xmatt> hello
[01:37] <xmatt> lol
[01:37] <M_42> tritium is that  cli command
[01:37] <tritium> M_42: yes
[01:37] <M_42> k thanks
[01:37] <foso> anyone? is 3.81gigs enough for ubuntu?
[01:37] <omegacenti_> LOL they are GONE
[01:37] <xmatt> I'm totally new to ubuntu
[01:37] <premier_> hi, what the command line call for the gnome settings manager thing?
[01:37] <xmatt> I last used red hat 2.6...
[01:37] <omegacenti_> no more windows... I don't care what I lose, I am free!
[01:37] <M_42> Could not connect to machine <IP_ADDRESS>: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[01:37] <Orfeous> i want to see my cpu temperature on my computer.. i have tried "lm-sensors" and loaded the detected modules.. but "sensors" tells me that it cant find any available sensors.. :P
[01:37] <M_42> :C
[01:37] <Orfeous> the same to "mbmon"
[01:37] <tritium> premier_: gconf-editor
[01:37] <xmatt> hi underwatercow
[01:37] <Orfeous> i have a Asus PB Premium Vista edition
[01:37] <underwatercow> xmatt: hello
[01:37] <omegacenti_> Now, it seems that I cannot resize my linux partition... any reason why I cannot? can you resize a mounted partition?
[01:37] <Orfeous> Asus P5B Premium Vista edition
[01:37] <xmatt> I duel boot ubuntu with vista
[01:37] <[agatha] > i think you need to umount it first to do that omegacenti_ ... but not sure anyway
[01:37] <magnetron> omegacenti_: you need to unmount it
[01:37] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : magnetron, can I unmount it while still in linux?
[01:38] <marfeath> How can I use grep to find a certain occurance of a pattern (specifically the third)
[01:38] <magnetron> omegacenti_: you can do that from the ubuntu live cd
[01:38] <erisco> jrib, I don't mean to sound lazy but I have been beating around the bchunk command and I just cannot get it to go through... I have $bchunk image.bin image.iso
[01:38] <LjL> omegacenti_: doing operations on partitions (or, for that matter, filesystem integrity checking) on mounted filesystems will, if the program doing it doesn't refuse to do it in the first place, result in serious data corruption.
[01:38] <wulfy814> I'd like to install backuppc 3.0 from testing, how can I install just this one app without modifying my sources ?
[01:38] <premier_> tritium: I'm looking for a solution to an alsa issue, but the only fix I can find uses "gnome settings"... however I'm in kde... how get gnome settings?
[01:38] <ww_> #lublin
[01:38] <jrib> erisco: you need a .cue as well I believe.  I've never used it
[01:38] <erisco> jrib, hold on I think I got it
[01:38] <magnetron> marfeath: you may have to use a more advanced tool, like perl or similar
[01:38] <LjL> marfeath: use head and tail with grep
[01:39] <omegacenti_> LjL: can I unmount it and still be running linux?
[01:39] <tritium> premier_: gconf-editor, as I told you
[01:39] <LjL> omegacenti_: not if it's your root partition
[01:39] <erisco> jrib, reading the man pages it seems it wants an iso or cue or raw, and then a basename for the iso
[01:39] <omegacenti_> LjL: It is :(
[01:39] <omegacenti_> LjL: Live cd then?
[01:39] <LjL> omegacenti_: then you need to use a live CD
[01:39] <marfeath> LjL, Thanks I'll try that
[01:39] <omegacenti_> magnetron: LjL Thanks :)
[01:39] <[agatha] > omegacenti_,  didnt you say it was your windows partition?
[01:39] <erisco> how do you get out of a man page?!?
[01:39] <s3phiroth> erisco: q
[01:39] <LjL> erisco: hit Q
[01:39] <erisco> q, got it
[01:39] <erisco> tlol
[01:39] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : No I just destroyed that.
[01:39] <magnetron> erisco: q for quit
[01:40] <marfeath> magnetron, This will likely be used on embeded devices, so I would like to keep perl out of it.  I might break down and use c though
[01:40] <sldkfj> erisco, open another terminal or file / tab
[01:40] <[agatha] > ah ok ok... i think im gonna leave you guys... too much info for my neurones
[01:40] <s3phiroth> so, anybody else having problems with mod_rewrite ?
[01:40] <Orfeous> please any suggestions? :)
[01:40] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Lol hope your nuerons get to feeling better
[01:40] <erisco> jrib, my assumption was wrong... I don't even know what a cue file is
[01:40] <M_42> tritium, how do I set the username
[01:40] <M_42> ?
[01:40] <magnetron> marfeath: embedded? nice. big project?
[01:41] <[agatha] > haha omegacenti_  been a tough couple of last days... i think sleeping will help anyway :P
[01:41] <magnetron> [agatha] : ahhh... sleeping
[01:41] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Unfortunately my triceps do not think sleep helps...
[01:41] <[agatha] > oh men!
[01:41] <erisco> jrib, ah, I learn a cue file has all the track locations
[01:42] <[agatha] > sleeping is one of the biggest pleasures in life guys :P
[01:42] <omegacenti_> I haven't been able to move my arms properly in 4 days... Just got back into the gym... It hurts so BAD!
[01:42] <marfeath> magnetron, I'm writing a script to bypass my schools wireless authentication system for our robotics students
[01:42] <cjae_> Ok I have a huge problem my onboard ethernet (intelpro100) died or appears to have died so I replaced with an smc 10/100 pci nic
[01:42] <erisco> jrib, I have a huge problem though! No cue files! :(
[01:42] <[agatha] > haha omegacenti_  try some sugar after exercise :P
[01:42] <jrib> erisco: if you google around for that problem, I think you can create the cue file
[01:42] <cjae_> the nic has a realtek chip in it so the 8139too module works but now my xservers are messed up
[01:42] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Really?
[01:42] <Punkunity> I just installed PSPVC and the PSP manager sytem, and i have no idea where they are installed on my computer.....does anyone know how to find them, they arent in my applications section....???
[01:42] <[agatha] > yup omegacenti_  that or half an aspirine :)
[01:42] <icanic> hello ppl
[01:42] <icanic> can someone help me
[01:42] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Hah! I might try that! thanks!
[01:42] <icanic> I'm new with linux
[01:43] <cjae_> I have two screens with an nvidia card one is tv out svideo and the other is a normal 15 " crt
[01:43] <M_42> I found it
[01:43] <M_42> :D
[01:43] <M_42> yay
[01:43] <M_42> thanks
[01:43] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Until then I will keep trying to toss the ibuprofens in the general direction of my mouth.
[01:43] <sldkfj> icanic, yes, that is an affliction many have
[01:43] <magnetron> marfeath: i am so eager to know how you could bypass a wifi security system with grep!
[01:43] <cjae_> I now only have the monitor but it has the tvout screen settings and nothing else, wt*
[01:43] <icanic> an someone tell me how can I install beryl on ubuntu 7.04
[01:43] <Punkunity> anyone?? know where programs get installed to usually??
[01:43] <icanic> ?
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> icanic: sudo apt-get install beryl
[01:44] <magnetron> marfeath: join #ubuntu-offtopic and tell me
[01:44] <sldkfj> icanic, join #Beryl
[01:44] <erisco> does anyone know how to create a cue file for a bin file? Can this be done?
[01:44] <icanic> but I don't know what file I must download?
[01:44] <Punkunity> like when i install a gmae it goes into games section, when i installed PSPVC i thought it would go into sound and video??? i am on feisty??
[01:44] <Punkunity> anyone??
[01:44] <[agatha] > Punkunity, didnt getthat... i guess in /home
[01:44] <sldkfj> icanic, see crdlb in #Beryl
[01:44] <erisco> jrib, I am googling =\ my key words seem to suck. "linux create cue for bin"
[01:44] <icanic> thx
[01:44] <jrib> erisco: I did:  bin "no cue"
[01:45] <Punkunity> ok [agatha]  i found one of the programs, but how do i find the other???? i dont know how o start up a program that isnt in the applications menu??
[01:45] <cjae_> Punkunity, the executable for the app wil be in /usr/bin
[01:45] <erisco> jrib: http://www.shivaranjan.com/2007/01/03/how-to-create-cue-file-for-a-bin-file-in-5-steps/ seem valid?
[01:45] <[agatha] > Punkunity,  you should be able to run it from the shell just typing the name of the program... sthat way should get started
[01:45] <[agatha] > i think
[01:45] <[agatha] > not sure tho...
[01:46] <Punkunity> hmmm....ok ty cjae_ and [agatha]
[01:46] <Punkunity> i am re-installing PSDPVC just to be safe
[01:46] <jrib> erisco: yeah, except for the "notepad" part :)
[01:46] <[agatha] > try  just to type PSDPVC from the shell... might work Punkunity
[01:46] <erisco> jrib, well I have wine for notepad if I was that desperate :P
[01:47] <aztracker1> if I were to go through using wine, i'd use crimson editor.
[01:47] <cjae_> Punkunity, the apt-get thing doesn't always make a link to the executable on your applications menu
[01:47] <aztracker1> not notepad.
[01:47] <Quintin> How do I uninstall gaim?
[01:48] <erisco> jrib, it is working :D
[01:48] <[agatha] > applications .- install / uninstall programs Quintin ?
[01:48] <cjae_> Punkunity, you can do it yourself by editing the gnome menu
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: just sudo apt-get remove gaim
[01:49] <BigToe> 10-42 from me guys, 10-42.
[01:49] <jrib> erisco: great
[01:49] <Punkunity> cjae_, how do i edit the gnome menu??? sounds complicated, i wish that i would install something, then it would ask where i want the shortcut to it placed, is that so much to ask??
[01:49] <cjae_> Punkunity, r click on the menu, edit, point new menu entry to executable in /usr/bin
[01:49] <[agatha] > well guys my bed is yelling at me :p ill come back with more questions :D see ya
[01:49] <Quintin> Then I have to remove ubuntu-desktop.  stupid
[01:50] <cjae_> Punkunity, yell at the ubuntu package managers
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: no you don't..t hats a dummy package, don't worry abou tit.
[01:50] <jrib> Punkunity: if you installed a gui application using APT and it does not have a menu item, it is a bug.  Please file it.  You can right-click on the ubuntu icon and click "edit menus" to edit the menu
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: just sudo apt-get remove gaim, and gaim will be removed, and your desktop will be fine
[01:51] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: Yes, I do have to remove it.  Try it yourself hotshot.
[01:51] <cjae_> Punkunity, as a follow up most cli apps do not have a menu entry
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: why do you ant to uninstall GAIM?
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: well, you obviouskly know everything, so i won't bother helping you.. good luck.. hotshot
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> but trust me, no it won't be removed
[01:51] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: because I don't use it.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: ok..
[01:51] <Quintin> The following packages will be REMOVED: gaim nautilus-sendto ubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <cjae_> anyone help me with my problem
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: are you deaf?..
[01:52] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: excuse me?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> nothing.
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> good luck hotshot.
[01:52] <Punkunity> why the heck does ubuntu have such a hard time multitasking?? my desktop keeps freezing like 3 times a day
[01:52] <omegacenti_> jrib: So I should file about gparted then?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Punkunity: ?.. i do like 12 things at once on a 1ghz laptop..lol,no probs
[01:52] <Punkunity> i am about to go back to windows soon, ubuntu is seeming so unstable, and everything i do on here is a biotch
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Punkunity: howmuch ram do you have, processor speed, etc?
[01:53] <jrib> omegacenti_: gparted ends up with a menu item in system > administration I believe
[01:53] <Punkunity> 512 RAm 3.2GHZ P4
[01:53] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: you're an idiot.  bye.
[01:53] <Punkunity> with hyperthreading
[01:53] <omegacenti_> jrib: Oh thanks :) I thought it would go in application system tools.
[01:53] <Quintin> Punkunity: Have you tried running top in a terminal?
[01:53] <Quintin> Punkunity: Turn off hyperthreading in the BIOS.
[01:53] <Punkunity> Quintin, i ahve no idea wehat that means
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: lol, i'm an idiot?.. i know how to uninstall gaim..lol
[01:53] <memimo> Hi all!  Is there any body who could help me?  I had a problem with my hard disk so that fsck caused to error during boot. I couldn't fix it so I reinstalled ubuntu. now my disk is mounted as sda.   I wont' discuss it further
[01:54] <cjae_> hello
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: lol, ok.
[01:54] <Quintin> Punkunity: It's not going to make anything run faster, and it's going to make some things crash.    Is there any body who could help me?  I had a problem with my hard disk so that fsck caused to error during boot. I couldn't fix it so I reinstalled ubuntu. now my disk is mounted as sda. I want to know why it is not hda since it is my laptop only hard dsik
[01:55] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: Obviously, it does.
[01:55] <Punkunity> so now lets get back to the editing my gnome menu [agatha]
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: obviousloy you're mistaken
[01:55] <omegacenti_> net split?
[01:56] <cjae_> Punkunity, linux is much better than windows ONLY when you know what you are doing or have the capability of fixing things
[01:56] <Quintin> Punkunity: You haven't even tried it yet.
[01:56] <s3phiroth> *g* i have no idea what i've done. mod_rewrite is working again
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin:  you
[01:56] <[agatha] > Punkunity,  that wasnt me... i suggested you to run it from the console... i dont know how to make such things
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: you're going to get that "remove ubuntu-desktop" no matter what package you remove, so be prepared to remove nothing
[01:56] <kbreit> I am trying to install 7.04 and the installer boot sequence seems to be taking 10 or so minutes each boot.
[01:56] <monteiro> Punkunity : try changing your kernel version, to a before version
[01:56] <cjae_> Punkunity, other than that it may just be a big headache
[01:56] <[agatha] > just can tell you that you should be able to start programs from your console Punkunity
[01:57] <Punkunity> cjae_, i know it is, but why does everything have to be so complicated with all this code, i like point, click, done, ya know, i dont wwanna know how all the code works
[01:57] <Punkunity> [agatha] , ty
[01:57] <cjae_> Punkunity, you must invest time in learning the linux learning curve which is too much for some ppl
[01:57] <[agatha] > sorry bout that Punkunity  just trying to read and learn something today before i go to bed :D
[01:57] <cjae_> Punkunity,  I suggest you get mac if sick of wondows
[01:57] <novato_br> is the  microsoft?
[01:57] <novato_br> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqayAVz5Xg
[01:57] <Punkunity> i have invested hours everyday for 2 months cjae_ how much more time do i need to learn??
[01:58] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: Its gettin better :) eventually Linux will get all of the bugs out. :)
[01:58] <Punkunity> windows took me like 2 minutes to learn
[01:58] <kbreit> Punkunity: What's your problem?
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> cjae_: why would you suggest that?
[01:58] <Punkunity> i hate apple
[01:58] <Punkunity> and i hate MS even more, i am just pointing out the obvious
[01:58] <cjae_> Punkunity, i have been at it for years and still suck
[01:58] <[agatha] > cmon Punkunity ... my 5 years old nephew uses windows :P
[01:58] <cjae_> because apple is way better than windows
[01:58] <cjae_> viruses and everything
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:59] <Punkunity> i tried switching a few of my freinds to linux, and they did it, and then it scared them off, ubuntu better do something soon, cause the OS war is almost lost for them for good, ubuntu is linux's l;ast hope
[01:59] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: its not the ease of use for average joe for Windows, its once you stop being average that windows is so horrible.
[01:59] <hanasaki> would someone look at my pastbin / iptables dump.... why is port 2049 tcp on eth1 being rejected?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24785/
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> sldkjf has a great exit mesage
[01:59] <[agatha] > true IndyGunFreak
[01:59] <cjae_> plus it took me getting told I couldn't do it many times before I knuckled down
[01:59] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: I don't see linux losing any battles :)
[01:59] <Punkunity> omegacenti_, i agree, and i will never go back to just windows, and if ubuntu gets some real top-shelf games, then i will never gogto winows
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : some people are just creative, i don't even know what mine says.
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> maybe i should put.. "to remove gaim, sudo apt-get remove gaim"
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:00] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: Sounds like we are in the same ocean.
[02:00] <cjae_> I would strongly agree with omegacenti_
[02:00] <Punkunity> cjae_, can you help me please with getting these 2 programs into the app menu
[02:00] <[agatha] > i think mine just says "quit" IndyGunFreak  or leaving... something like that
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> slackmagic: it gets quiet around 2-3am....
[02:00] <Punkunity> lol omegacenti_ somewhere
[02:00] <[agatha] > ahaha IndyGunFreak
[02:00] <Jared|Linux> I have dapper drake installed yet it doesn't show that I can update to feisty in the notification bar...doesn't that usually show up as an update?
[02:00] <cjae_> Punkunity, I told you how already
[02:00] <Punkunity> cjae_, i need step by clicking step
[02:00] <loco_aullador> Hi, i'd like to copy one 40gb hdd to another of 80 gb but i've read that the 2 hdd should have the same size, so i cant use the dd command....anyone knows what i can do?
[02:00] <Punkunity> i am in edit menus now
[02:01] <omegacenti_> All I want is binaries for games in linux... that would make life bliss and I would NEVER buy another microsoft product again.
[02:01] <cjae_> Punkunity, r click the ubuntu menu
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: it's just a metapackage
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: right, as ubuntu-desktop is simply a meta-package
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: you're not paying attention to what we're saying...
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> lol.. THANK YOU
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: read what I told you above.
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: it doesn't
[02:01] <enzo> hey I'm trying to run Ubuntu on my computer but it is old, crappy and and having problems turning on. Can anyone help me?
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: not in the general case.  You must have something specific to your situation gone awry
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: did you read what I said above?
[02:01] <slackmagic> Punkunity: you said you never had a problem at all with windows and that ubuntu has been giving you problems ever since you took off windows and installed ubuntu - the logical part here for you is to just remove ubuntu and go back to windows..as simple as that :P
[02:01] <tritium> ouch, only 512?
[02:01] <Punkunity> im there but what now, this edit menu doesnt make sense to me cjae_
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: be nice
[02:01] <Dunkel_> someone helps me with my sound device :(
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: i tried to tell him 3x, he called me a moron..lol
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: it's not ubuntu.  You're running unstable stuff like beryl and compiz.  Why do you think that's not enabled by default yet?
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: warning
[02:01] <cjae_> Punkunity, then create the new entry whatever it is you may have to press add or whatever
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: again, it's not ubuntu, it's likely beryl and/or compiz
[02:01] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: please stop
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: IT DOES NOT.   Please stop now.
[02:02] <Punkunity> shut it slackmagic lol
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> he's the person who can't figure it out.
[02:02] <slackmagic> Punkunity: just trying to help :D
[02:02] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: he's ignored everthing I've told him too, but we still have to avide by the Code of Conduct...
[02:02] <Punkunity> i dont get it cjae_
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: i have,
[02:02] <belgarath_> anyone know how to control windowplacements...    I want my apps remember where I put it last time...
[02:04] <omegacenti_> Quintin: That as a shot at everyone and that kind of think does not make it very desirable to help you.  Quit with the sweeping genralizations please.
[02:04] <Quintin> pfft.
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol, not to mention we were all right.
[02:04] <s3phiroth> is this troll night ?
[02:04] <omegacenti_> Quintin: That was rude.
[02:04] <cjae_> then you presss the browse button for the command and point it to /usr/src/whatever the app is
[02:04] <cjae_> Punkunity,
[02:04] <PriceChild> Lets move on please Quintin
[02:05] <Siph0n> when sending a file from your phone to your computer over bluetooth, does anything show on your computer? cause my phone has been saying its been sending the picture for 15min now
[02:05] <Punkunity> ya cjae_
[02:05] <Quintin> Wait a minute, so you are all smarter than apt?  I think not
[02:05] <omegacenti_> Siph0n: might be a connection error.
[02:05] <cjae_> Punkunity, r u following
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:05] <Siph0n> ok... thx omegacenti_
[02:05] <LjL> !ubuntu-desktop | quintin
[02:05] <ubotu> quintin: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:05] <tritium> Quintin: you have not listened to what I've told you
[02:05] <[agatha] > Quintin,  would be nice if you can drop it, just dont remove it if you dont want...
[02:06] <Punkunity> cjae_, not really i am doing every option i can and none of it makes sense, i dont know the command, i dont know anything, i did get the right section in sound and video, i cklick add item....then i dont know
[02:06] <nullserver5146_> in top, how come it says processes are using swap memory when I dont have swap enabled
[02:06] <^^NeOlOcK^^> someone experience with ettercap?
[02:06] <LjL> nullserver5146_: uhm, what does it say precisely?
[02:07] <omegacenti_> Quintin: an application is only as smart as the person/people that make them. Considering this is the community that supports the applications used in ubuntu... Then yes. We are as smart if not smarter than apt. If you would but just listen that ubuntu-desktop is nothing but a metapackage then you would resolve you issue. Please think about this carefully.
[02:07] <Jared|Linux> I'm on dapper right now, I use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it shows I'm on the latest system :S
[02:07] <Punkunity> i am giving up here cjae_ i simply dont have the time or patience for this right now, ty for your help, maybe someone else can help me later
[02:07] <Quintin> omegacenti_: I'm aware that it is a metapackage.
[02:07] <cjae_> Punkunity, I suggest you learn more about linux before you try, I suggest trying to make a quick launch icon first
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:07] <Quintin> Punkunity: Did you try turning off HT?
[02:08] <cjae_> Punkunity, there is info how to do that on the ubuntu site
[02:08] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: sorry, I had seriously lagged
[02:08] <cjae_> Punkunity, might make you understand more
[02:08] <shadowhywind> oh i so screwed up! i have completely lost any ability to use sudo.. everytime i try to use sudo nothing happens.. can someone help?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: lol, no sweat
[02:08] <Punkunity> quintin not yet i have no time to reboot right now, but i will in a bit, i have to go pick up my lady from work, and pack for camping in yosemite,ca
[02:08] <nullserver5146_> LjL: i've enabled the swap column and there are numbers greater than zero there for some processes
[02:08] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: _way_ long ;)
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:08] <omegacenti_> shadowhywind: lol ouch I would like to see how you messed it up :)
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> i hate lag
[02:09] <marcosnunes> boa noite
[02:09] <LjL> shadowhywind: what did you do that resulted in that?
[02:09] <cjae_> anyone see my problem
[02:09] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: adeus :P
[02:09] <Quintin> shadowhywind: Boot with kernel command line single init=/bin/passwd give root a password, then fix your problem
[02:09] <Siph0n> omegacenti_: lol i minimized my gaim window and noticed there is a dialog box asking if i wish to accept a file lol
[02:09] <shadowhywind> i tried to add myself to the root group
[02:09] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: falo portugus?
[02:09] <marcosnunes> sim
[02:09] <LjL> Quintin: don't suggest that people set a root password, please.
[02:09] <marcosnunes> eu falo portugues
[02:09] <LjL> shadowhywind: reboot into recovery mode
[02:09] <LjL> !pt
[02:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:09] <PriceChild> !pt | marcosnunes
[02:09] <ubotu> marcosnunes: please see above
[02:10] <Quintin> LjL: Right, I'll just not tell people how to fix their issues.  Oooook.
[02:10] <shadowhywind> Lijl i thik i am down to that.. and then remove the password once i am done
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:10] <LjL> Quintin: there are other ways.
[02:10] <soundray> Quintin: just tell them how to do it the Ubuntu way.
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: well, did you remove gaim?
[02:10] <tritium> Quintin: enabling the root account is _not_ necessary for fixing issues
[02:10] <shadowhywind> once i am in the recovery console what do i do?
[02:10] <LjL> shadowhywind: reboot into recovery mode and remove yourself from the root group. make sure you are in the admin group, however
[02:11] <Quintin> no, but in my opinion it's the quickest easiest way to fix it
[02:11] <omegacenti_> alright, Quintin is on a week long ignore list.
[02:11] <dedi_> where can i check if a new tvcard is supported on linux?
[02:11] <foso> hey, im installing feisty on an old laptop, says bios age fails cutoff
[02:11] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: queria poder falar portugus, mas infelizmente no posso :P vai  #ubuntu-pt para ajuda :) boa noite :P
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol..
[02:11] <LjL> shadowhywind: use "deluser <user> <group>" to remove an user from a group, and "adduser <user> <group>" to add it to one
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> id on't ignore people as a practice, but he's close..lol
[02:11] <Quintin> foso: That means you won't have acpi.  you can boot with acpi=force to try anyway
[02:11] <foso> quitin, how do i do that?
[02:11] <marcosnunes> #ubuntu-pt
[02:12] <shadowhywind> does the adduser user group work for allready created accounts?
[02:12] <LjL> shadowhywind: ... ?
[02:12] <soundray> shadowhywind: yes
[02:12] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: no, escreve /join #ubuntu-pt
[02:12] <Quintin> foso: When your computer is booting, hit "esc" to get to the GRUB menu, then on the kernel line hit "e" to edit it.  put acpi=force at the end and try to boot.  If everything works, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it permanent
[02:12] <LjL> shadowhywind: do you think it would make sense to remove a group from a user that doesn't yet exist?
[02:12] <shadowhywind> hehe,. sorry if that was confusing
[02:12] <soundray> shadowhywind: to avoid this sudo problem in the future, make sure you start graphical programs with gksudo (not sudo).
[02:13] <shadowhywind> soundray i have a commandline system installed
[02:13] <soundray> shadowhywind: in that case, I concede that my advice doesn't apply...
[02:13] <LjL> shadowhywind: why did you try to add your user to the "root" group, anyway?
[02:13] <shadowhywind> ok so deluser <user> root will delete me from the root group and not delete the user?
[02:13] <Quintin> Feisty seems to be using a smaller font for desktop icons?
[02:14] <LjL> shadowhywind: yes. if you forget the "root" part, however, it will delete your user, so be careful.
[02:14] <jujimufu> hey guys, I am on kubuntu ffawn, and every time I try to pair my cellphone to my pc via bluetooth, when I enter the passcode on my cellphone I get a "Connection Failed" message on both devices, instead of getting a window on the PC asking me to type the password I just typed on my cellphone. Any ideas?
[02:14] <foso> quintin,can i get to the grub menu before i install ubuntu?
[02:14] <fiXXXerMet> Where can I find some neat/trippy backgrounds for a 1280x1024 resolution? :)
[02:14] <shadowhywind> the reason why i was trying to addmyself to the root group is, i have a sftp chroot jail, which the folder permissions are set for root:root, but i want full access to one screenname
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> fiXXXerMet: http://www.gnome-look.org
[02:15] <wulfy814> fiXXXerMet: http://www.interfacelift.com
[02:15] <fiXXXerMet> IndyGunFreak: You own - thanks.
[02:15] <fiXXXerMet> You too.
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> fiXXXerMet: no prob.
[02:15] <Quintin> foso: No.  You can go to "advanced startup options" or whatever and put in acpi=force.  I think it is "F6"
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know if those backgrounds would be "trippy" bu theres a lot of them
[02:15] <dasos> i have an amd turion 64bit x2 laptop, i want to use a live cd to see if all my peripherals work out of the box, do i just want to download the 64 bit version of ubuntu or is there a 64bit + dual core version that i'm missing
[02:15] <LjL> shadowhywind: uhm, that might be slightly over my head, but i think i'd make a *new* group and set the permissions to root:newgroup
[02:15] <shadowhywind> so i thought if i would add the one user to the root group, that would solve all my problems
[02:15] <cchildre> hi all
[02:16] <Quintin> dasos: All the generic kernels have SMP support
[02:16] <slackmagic> fiXXXerMet: try dA,   http://www.deviantart.com/
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> wulfy814: thats a nice site of wallpapers, thanks
[02:16] <jujimufu> fiXXXerMet: try deviantart.com
[02:16] <soundray> dasos: the 64bit version will make use of both your cores.
[02:16] <jujimufu> slackmagic: lol :D
[02:16] <shadowhywind> Lijl unfourently, the chroot jail that i used, will only allow the folder to be root:root
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> devianart, thats the one i was trying to remem r
[02:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: If I use gdm, then I am using gnome correct? are they any good sites for themes other than ubutnu default? the african sounds are driving me nuts.
[02:16] <foso> quintin, thanks, i will try that soon, for some reason when i type in a p it puts x and i is a 5
[02:17] <jujimufu> slackmagic: I used to be a very active member of dA. But I left - bad for them :P
[02:17] <slackmagic> fiXXXerMet: or just google around for 1280x1024
[02:17] <Quintin> foso: numlock or fnlock
[02:17] <wulfy814> IndyGunFreak: no problem
[02:17] <[agatha] > hehe that was good question omegacenti_  :P dont really like the brown
[02:17] <dasos> Quintin, soundray: thanks much =)
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: im pretty sure gdm is gnome... as for the sounds..lol, i'm not sure.
[02:17] <genericnickname> Hello. I need help on a "Fatal Error: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR"
[02:17] <shadowhywind> Why would adding myself to the root group, kill my sudo?
[02:17] <jujimufu> btw, any ideas on how to open password-protected archives in ubuntu?
[02:17] <jujimufu> Ark doesn't work
[02:17] <wulfy814> that interfacelift site let's you browse by resolution
[02:17] <shadowhywind> or could it have been the way i set it up?
[02:17] <slackmagic> jujimufu: i signed up there for the heck of it but mainly just browse through their stuff whenever I feel like it
[02:17] <cchildre> i'm wondering, i have a problem with the desktop effects and i'm wondering if others are having it. i'm using desktop effects under the newest generic kernel (2.6.20-16-generic) with the nvidia drivers, and when I hit CTRL + ALT + F1, it goes to the console, but when I hit ALT + F7 to go back to the desktop, all I get is a black screen.    Very frustrating.  Any ideas about what t
[02:17] <cchildre> o do?
[02:17] <Quintin> jujimufu: file-roller.  make sure you have unzip or whatever
[02:17] <LjL> shadowhywind: then just use root to make any changes, i'm afraid... adding a normal user to the root group can't be a good idea.
[02:17] <wulfy814> I'm needing to install an app from testing, can I do it without modify my sources.lst
[02:17] <veinor> If I have a collection of DRM-ed songs and I want to play them under Linux, what's my best option?
[02:17] <veinor> iTunes DRMed songs.
[02:17] <shadowhywind> and it didn't work!
[02:17] <LjL> wulfy814: "testing"?
[02:17] <PriceChild> veinor, it is against the terms of purchase to get around the drm
[02:17] <omegacenti_> veinor: Find a fair use application to remove the DRM from yours songs.
[02:18] <veinor> Point.
[02:18] <omegacenti_> PriceChild: not quite.
[02:18] <shadowhywind> is there a way to see if i am still part of the group?
[02:18] <cchildre> veinor: there's been some mention of an aac DRM buster, but your best bet is to find a way to run itunes in linux
[02:18] <^^NeOlOcK^^> nurn and rip
[02:18] <LjL> shadowhywind, i'm not sure why it'd kill sudo, but it's something i'd never do for any reason anyway
[02:18] <^^NeOlOcK^^> burn and rip
[02:18] <LjL> shadowhywind: type "groups"
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> DRM is the devil!
[02:18] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x u around ?
[02:18] <soundray> veinor: you can probably run iTunes in wine or a virtual machine. That will also keep you squeaky clean in legal terms.
[02:18] <veinor> IndyGunFreak: Yes it is.
[02:18] <omegacenti_> PriceChild: Terms of purchase pales in comparison to you rights as a consumer
[02:18] <cchildre> IndyGunFreak: DRM is silly, and pointless, but not the devil
[02:18] <veinor> The MPAA/RIAA are the devil.
[02:18] <jujimufu> Quintin: I am on kubuntu right now, so I don't have file-roller
[02:18] <PriceChild> omegacenti_, either way... circumvention will not be discussed in this channel.
[02:18] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> cchildre: nope, its the devil!
[02:19] <cchildre> veinor: i agree
[02:19] <wulfy814> LjL: the equivalent of debian's testing repo if their is one for ubuntu
[02:19] <shadowhywind> ok, going back to recovery console to test something.. and then will double check group
[02:19] <veinor> PriceChild: I understand.
[02:19] <wulfy814> maybe I'm misspeaking
[02:19] <Quintin> jujimufu: install it?
[02:19] <shadowhywind> *cries* i just got my system working today.. lol
[02:19] <omegacenti_> cchildre: I argue in favor of evil pointless hacks on modern day inventions.  ... cough... devil..
[02:19] <wulfy814> if I apt-get install backuppc I get version 2.2 I would really like to get version three without having to install it manually
[02:19] <omegacenti_> PriceChild: :)
[02:20] <r00723r0> can anyone recommend a good gnutella gtk client that's not gtk-gnutella?
[02:20] <LjL> wulfy814, there is Gutsy, but installing a Gutsy package on Feisty is far from guaranteed to succeed. you can certainly try (at your own risk) by downloading the wanted package from packages.ubuntu.com and then opening it from your desktop using gdebi or from the terminal using dpkg -i packagename
[02:20] <foso> thanks quintin, im not sure i get it yet though
[02:20] <zoidberg> guys i have a question
[02:20] <openmindDJ> Does anyone here have experience using partimage to create a backup image
[02:20] <cchildre> omegacenti_: nah, the best thing to do is to help the recording/media industries realize how futile DRM is; this will undermine the need for circumvention. it's the same as the piracy issue; if you take away the reason to pirate (insanely high prices, difficulty obtaining desired media, etc), then you undermine the reasons for piracy and therefore prevent it before it starts
[02:20] <soundray> openmindDJ: is that a survey, or are you going to follow up with a *real* question?
[02:20] <zoidberg> when i run sudo apt-get update on Breezy....it sasy some index files failed to download...and its pretty much everything....but i have everything uncommented on the sources.list
[02:20] <zoidberg> ?
[02:20] <josedawg> d
[02:21] <LjL> !offtopic | DRM discussions
[02:21] <zoidberg> any help
[02:21] <ubotu> DRM discussions: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:21] <foso> i hit f6 and it has a line of text i can add to at the end, is that the right thing?
[02:21] <PriceChild> zoidberg, breezy has reached end of life and is no longer supported
[02:21] <genericnickname> I need help on a "Fatal Error: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR". What is it and how do I correct it?
[02:21] <PriceChild> zoidberg, you are recommended to upgrade to dapper
[02:21] <josedawg> i'm having an issue configuring my mouse. i keep getting an error saying "unknown protocol evdev"
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> PriceChild: thats the second person in two days in here asking for help with breezy
[02:21] <josedawg> any ideas?
[02:21] <omegacenti_> cchildre: Then doesn't that mean piracy is a way to get their attention on the subject?.... maybe I'm using circular reasoning. Ah who knows :)
[02:22] <openmindDJ> soundray: survey thanks
[02:22] <wulfy814> LjL: actually looking to install on 6.06 LTS, I guess I should install the app manually for best stability
[02:22] <aztracker1> zoidberg, same guy from toontorrents?
[02:22] <aztracker1> or something like that.
[02:22] <zoidberg> how do i upgrade to dapper from the terminal again?
[02:22] <LjL> wulfy814, chances are that the dependencies will have different version in Gutsy, so you won't be able to install it, and if you force the installation, you won't be able to run it anyway.
[02:22] <cchildre> omegacenti_: nah, i don't think that piracy is the best way. we need to reach out to them and show them a better, working business model. they're clinging onto what they have known for decades and has made them rich...getting them to part from that will mean that we will have to show them an equally viable way to make money
[02:22] <LjL> !upgrade > zoidberg    (zoidberg, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> aztracker1: i think its sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:23] <LjL> !offtopic | cchildre, omegacenti_
[02:23] <ubotu> cchildre, omegacenti_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:23] <omegacenti_> LjL: My apologies.
[02:23] <cchildre> ;p point taken
[02:23] <shadowhywind> ok if i delete the user, and recreate the user... i should regain sudo right?
[02:24] <shawn34> how can i purge all downloaded deb files from apt-get
[02:24] <LjL> shadowhywind: did what i suggested not work?
[02:24] <soundray> wulfy814: there's something in between "manual" installation and installation of a binary gutsy package, which is to get the gutsy sources and compile them into a package on your dapper system with dpkg-buildpackage.
[02:24] <cchildre> omegacenti_: want to take this to ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:24] <ethereal> anyone know how to fix "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?
[02:24] <LjL> shawn34: apt-get clean
[02:24] <shadowhywind> no removeing the group didn't work
[02:24] <shawn34> thanks
[02:24] <^^NeOlOcK^^> ati card?
[02:24] <ethereal> yeah
[02:24] <ethereal> x1650 pro
[02:24] <LjL> shadowhywind: removing the group *from* the user, not removing the group. anyway you typed "deluser shadowhywind root" and then "adduser shadowhywind admin", correct?
[02:24] <^^NeOlOcK^^> u should use aiglx
[02:25] <uri> hi
[02:25] <wulfy814> I found the package I'm looking for in gutsy, only one requirement that's not easily accessible - libfile-rsyncp-perl (>= 0.68)
[02:25] <omegacenti> Anyone know of an ubuntu program that finds things in your house and indexes their locations? you know like keys, entire dvd drives... things of that nature.
[02:25] <shawn34> LjL, I have and issue with some mono packages that I can't uninstall
[02:25] <shadowhywind> Ljl i did not do the admin part...
[02:25] <wulfy814> soundray: do you know of a good tutorial for that? if I build this package, I'll be able to deploy it easier in the future
[02:25] <bigputo> Are there cables to split SATA to IDE?
[02:25] <genericnickname> I have a website that tells me to type "sudo gedit etc/modprobe.d/blacklist", but when I attempt this, it says it cannot open display and that I should type "gedit --help"
[02:26] <LjL> shadowhywind: does "groups" list "admin"?
[02:26] <uri> anyone knows for what was today kernel update of fiesty?
[02:26] <shadowhywind> Ljl no it doesn't, just lists my name... rebooting to add it now
[02:26] <LjL> genericnickname: use "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[02:26] <LjL> genericnickname: you should never use sudo with GUI apps like gedit
[02:26] <LjL> shadowhywind: it should normally also list a few other groups
[02:26] <omegacenti> LjL: Why should you not use sudo with gui scripts?
[02:27] <soundray> wulfy814: not off the top of my head, but it's worth searching the web for combinations of debian with buildpackage or "apt-get build" (Debian generally has more low-level tutorials than ubuntu)
[02:27] <LjL> shadowhywind: for me, it lists:   !%1 > %2    (%2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:27] <LjL> shadowhywind: meh, nevermind that
[02:27] <LjL> shadowhywind: for me, it lists:   ljl adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[02:27] <soundray> wulfy814: sorry, that was ambiguous
[02:27] <LjL> omegacenti: because if you're lucky, the program won't start, if you're less lucky, you'll mess up some files' permissions. gksudo is what is intended to be used with gui apps.
[02:27] <shadowhywind> Ljl i want your address to send you cookies and a singing -hug-a-bear
[02:28] <omegacenti> LjL: and messing with file permissions is very bad correct?
[02:28] <shadowhywind> omegacenti yes!
[02:28] <shadowhywind> *snickers*
[02:28] <soundray> wulfy814: I mean, Debian tends to have more tutorials available that deal with low-level issues, such as package building. They are generally applicable to ubuntu as well.
[02:28] <LjL> !gksudo > omegacenti    (omegacenti, see the private message from Ubotu) yes, quite, read that
[02:28] <jujimufu> I am having problems with bluetooth. I followed the official ubuntu guide, but I still get an error when pairing my cellphone to the pc.
[02:28] <foso> when i try to use acpi=force then it starts saying spurious ack on isa, is this right?
[02:28] <shadowhywind> Ljl that fixed everything... *note to selff.. don't add root group
[02:28] <jujimufu> Any ideas?
[02:29] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a known issue with FireFox and Desktop Effects turned on?
[02:29] <omegacenti> hanks LjL
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> fiXXXerMet: don't think so.
[02:29] <LjL> shadowhywind: you probably want to re-add the other groups as well... cdrom, audio, etc. or you won't be able to read from your cdrom or use audio, etc ;)
[02:29] <fiXXXerMet> Well my FF has been crashing a lot since I just turned it on.
[02:30] <shadowhywind> Ljl *shrugs* its a fileserver, so *shrugs*, don't need that stuff.. However to create a brand new group would it just be like adduser <name> newgroup?
[02:30] <wulfy814> soundray: thankyou - one more question for the night I've been using Dell SC430's but the NIC is no longer automatically recognized with the newer SC440's
[02:30] <foso> anyone know how to use acpi=force correctly? old computer
[02:30] <wulfy814> so I followed directions from the www.ubuntuforums.org , but I have to follow them again after upgrading the kernel
[02:30] <wulfy814> is there any way to automate that?
[02:31] <omegacenti> LjL: AH! it uses the user confugration files for for sudo and gksudo uses the root configuration files... interesting!
[02:31] <ash_> hi i need some help with my ntfs drive.. my "windows" hdd has changed its name to windows and i cant use ntfs config tool to write to it anymore. it used to be called HDD and could read and write fine. when i use ntfs config tool i get the error. Mounting /media/HDD failed. mount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist.
[02:32] <soundray> wulfy814: I'm sure there is a way, but I don't know how. Please ask again, addressing everyone in the channel.
[02:32] <ricard1> Hi,
[02:32] <ricard1> I use Ubuntu 6.06 and instaled pcsx playstation one emulator using synaptic, this software wasn't correctly packaged, it use a command (lndir) which is not instaled default in ubuntu
[02:33] <wulfy814> one more question for the night I've been using Dell SC430's but the NIC is no longer automatically recognized with the newer SC440's
[02:33] <shawn34> trying to remove some mono libs (already removed monodevelop) getting error: "mono-xsp: sub-process pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" then packages are broken. How can I get rid of this!?
[02:33] <wulfy814> so I followed directions from the www.ubuntuforums.org , but I have to follow them again after upgrading the kernel
[02:34] <wulfy814> is there any way to automate that?
[02:34] <soundray> ricard1: you could help by filing a bug against the package on launchpad, requesting that it depend on xutils-dev
[02:35] <bruenig> wulfy814, write a script
[02:35] <omegacenti> soundray: Just a question of curiosity: How do you know it dpeneds on xutils-dev?
[02:35] <joshuamc> hi
[02:35] <shawn34> can anyone help me remove this package?
[02:35] <soundray> omegacenti: that's the only package that provides a binary called lndir (found with apt-file)
[02:35] <bruenig> shawn34, what is the error when you sudo apt-get remove it
[02:36] <omegacenti> soundray: thanks :)
[02:36] <shawn34> bruenig, error: "mono-xsp: sub-process pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[02:36] <bruenig> !info mono-xsp
[02:36] <ubotu> mono-xsp: simple web server to run ASP.NET applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 64 kB, installed size 300 kB
[02:36] <wulfy814> can I (sorry for the Windoze term) "slipstream" it into the ISO so i don't have to do it at all?
[02:36] <shawn34> bruenig, its under apt-get auto removable
[02:36] <omegacenti> wulfy814: I don't even know what slipstream means lol
[02:37] <bruenig> shawn34, do dpkg -L mono-xsp | grep '/etc/init.d'
[02:37] <bruenig> shawn34, and paste the output
[02:37] <nuopus> hey does anyone know how to enable the SLED style menus? someone said its called SLAB?
[02:37] <omegacenti> the Linux cli, such elegance.
[02:37] <wulfy814> it's basically inserting the driver into the installation ISO
[02:37] <bruenig> !slab
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <wulfy814> so you don't have to install it after the OS
[02:37] <soundray> shawn34: the clean way is to look at the pre-removal script /var/dpkg/info/mono-xsp.prerm , work out why it fails and correct it.
[02:37] <nuopus> !slab
[02:37] <BK> I broke the xserver on my admin account. How can I use the failsafe terminal to give my guest account admin power?
[02:38] <Gefragt> bhi
[02:38] <bruenig> soundray, yeah I am betting it is a daemon and prerm is trying to stop it, the deb helper scripts stick that code into all the prerm scripts of daemons for some reason
[02:40] <shawn34> bruenig, "/etc/init.d" & "/etc/init.d/mono-xsp"
[02:40] <bruenig> shawn34, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/mono-xsp && sudo apt-get remove mono-xsp
[02:40] <Gefragt> omg wtf
[02:40] <Gefragt> someone kicked me from #bash
[02:40] <ryanakca> how do I set my VT1-7 to have more lines per screen?
[02:40] <soundray> shawn34: the brutal way is to force the script by entering 'exit 0' as the second line. But that can leave a mess if you're unlucky.
[02:40] <ryanakca> how do I set my VT1-7 to have more lines per screen? I know it has something to do with /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I don't remember exactly
[02:40] <soundray> bruenig: makes good sense to me. If a package shows up as uninstalled, you shouldn't expect the daemon to be still running.
[02:40] <BK> can nobody here help me?
[02:40] <bruenig> soundray, ? It tries to stop the daemon before uninstalling. But some daemons error when you try to stop them and they aren't running
[02:40] <shawn34> bruenig, that worked. thank you sooo much!
[02:41] <Voyage_> is mircrosft sued for using the name vista ?
[02:44] <omegacenti> Are gdm and gnome different?
[02:44] <omegacenti> I mean, a gdm theme IS a gnome theme correct?
[02:44] <SillyZ> gdm = gnome display manager
[02:44] <shawn34> uname -r
[02:44] <shawn34> oops
[02:44] <soundray> bruenig: well, yes, that's a bug then
[02:44] <gordboy> gdm logs you in to X. gnome is usually there when you get into a desktop
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: gdm is the log in screen, it permits you to log into gnome, kde, etc
[02:44] <Voyage_> is mircrosft sued for using the name vista ?
[02:44] <gordboy> yes
[02:44] <omegacenti> ryanakca: so a gdm them is not a gnome theme
[02:44] <bruenig> soundray, someone should report it, it happens on every daemon if the daemon isn't running.
[02:44] <BK> no
[02:44] <bruenig> or most of them at least
[02:44] <slackmagic> Voyage_: iirc, yes..some italien guy....about his tv station tele vista or something..there should be a /. article from not too long ago
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: no. It merely changes the appearance of your login screen
[02:44] <soundray> ryanakca: you can add a vga= option to the kernel lines in that file. Available options for VESA cards are shown in http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~gerald/laptop/vesafb.txt
[02:44] <omegacenti> ryanakca: might you know where I should put the file?
[02:44] <Voyage_> i saw it too.
[02:44] <Voyage_> i saw the news [#LinuxChat News]  - Microsoft sued over Windows Vista name - A French television presenter has sued Microsoft for "violation of intellectual property". Philippe Gildas accused the software publisher of illegally using the trademark "Vista".
[02:44] <gordboy> arnie copyrighted hasta la vista, surely
[02:44] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x u around ?
[02:44] <ryanakca> soundray: thanks
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: no, sorry, try looking under preferences (I haven't used GNOME in quite a while)
[02:44] <omegacenti> ryanakca: thanks :) If you don't mind me asking, what do you use?
[02:44] <soundray> ryanakca: I find that vga=0x317 is widely compatible with reasonably recent systems.
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: KDE :D
[02:44] <ryanakca> soundray: yeah. What's the biggest one available? (highest rows x columns )
[02:45] <soundray> ryanakca: 1280x1024, check out that link for the color depths.
[02:45] <omegacenti> Any way to get terminal outputs to have more text/screen?
[02:45] <omegacenti> like ctrl alt f1 and such
[02:46] <soundray> ryanakca: but cards are much more finicky about those
[02:46] <ryanakca> soundray: I'm looking at 1280x1204x16M, but I have no clue on adding "0x31B" and "0x11B" ... hexadecimal I presume?
[02:46] <soundray> omegacenti: scroll up and read the most recent conversation between ryanakca and myself
[02:46] <omegacenti> soundray: will do :)
[02:46] <soundray> ryanakca: vga=0x31B to the kernel line
[02:47] <ryanakca> soundray: ah, ok, thanks :)
[02:47] <soundray> ryanakca: or vga=ask and enter "scan" at the boot prompt, to see which are supported.
[02:48] <omegacenti> soundray: Kernal lines?
[02:48] <uchi> hy
[02:48] <ryanakca> soundray: ok, thanks
[02:48] <soundray> omegacenti: in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:48] <omegacenti> soundray: oh.
[02:48] <omegacenti> soundray: I have no idea what any of it is! gah! don't know where to start! lol
[02:49] <omegacenti> soundray: what [is 0x31b mean?
[02:49] <soundray> omegacenti: add the option to the line "# defoptions=" as well
[02:49] <soundray> omegacenti: it's a code for a resolution. Look up the link I posted.
[02:49] <omegacenti> soundray: what does that do?
[02:50] <gh0stid> hey i have a quick question .. why is my Xwindow taskbar smaller that the screen is actualy ??
[02:50] <jujimufu> ok, how do i return to default installation configurations for some applications?
[02:50] <soundray> omegacenti: resist the temptation to learn everything at once ;)
[02:50] <omegacenti> soundray: but its so tempting!
[02:50] <soundray> omegacenti: the change to the # defoptions line ensures that the setting survives your  next kernel upgrade.
[02:50] <johnnybuoy> does anyone know how one can create a file with a fixed length?
[02:50] <johnnybuoy> eg. 5MB
[02:51] <omegacenti> :)