[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[21:57] <Metamorphosis> Whatsup folks. I wonder if Kubuntu is suitable for this laptop: Lenovo G5070 20351, Intel Core i5-4210U (170 GHz 1600MHz, 3MB), 4 GB DDR3L RAM, GPU: AMD Radeon R5 M230 2GB, 500 GB 5400rpm hard disk, 15.6" HD (1366 x 768) display
[22:16] <mparillo> It would work, but you would be happier with an SSD.


[18:50] <dscassel> Jono's Ubuntu Q&A starts in 10 minutes... http://is.gd/ioGtf
[18:51] <dscassel> I probably have to work, but I recommend it if you have burning questions about the Ubuntu project as a whole (not technical questions so much).


[20:17] <whiskers75> vlt: man apt-get for help
[20:17] <L3top> vlt what processes? I mean... if you are dealing with mysql some tricks have to be done etc.
[20:17] <lorddelta> cordoval: sure
[20:17] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> hum it shows up in my ubuntu software center, 4 one down the list when I search for bcm
[20:17] <bennypr0fane> gnubie blacklist.conf is empty   term says: (gedit:8399): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: Missing callback called fullpath = /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
[20:18] <vlt> L3top: Any processes. Like lightdm, apache, …
[20:18] <L3top> vlt again... you will want to mount none -t sysfs /path/to/chroot/sys; mount none -t proc /path/to/chroot/proc
[20:19] <L3top> prior to chroot
[20:19] <whiskers75> bump; Running Ubuntu on a Toshiba Portege 4000 has random freezes - i suspect acpi. help please!!
[20:19] <raven> whiskers75 no it must be automatically because it would take two hours at least to paste this parts
[20:19] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> from a terminal do cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf did not show anything
[20:19] <usuario> crvurnjurmc4uog
[20:19] <whiskers75> raven: oh then dont know what to do
[20:20] <L3top> I also mount -o bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev; mount none -t devpts /path/to/chroot/dev/pts
[20:20] <L3top> then chroot... then apt-get and unless you are dealing with mysql or something oddball, I doubt you will have issues
[20:20] <mongo> lxc or vserver containers are easier than chroot
[20:20] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>try sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf,  I had this wrong I fixed the line.
[20:21] <Stroobach> another question.,. there are no aditional drivers to display.. any fixes for that (acer aspire 5336)
[20:22] <L3top> there are no additional drivers for you Stroobach. You got it all.
[20:22] <vlt> L3top: I’ll try that, thanks.
[20:22] <bennypr0fane> gnubie ok done editing blacklist.conf
[20:22] <fraterm> chrome and the built in proxy configuration widget for 12.04 are again failing me.
[20:23] <bennypr0fane> gnubie but how do i make sure I got multiverse repo enabled in sC?
[20:23] <Stroobach> that explains alot thx l3top
[20:23] <bennypr0fane> can see an option for managing repos
[20:23] <Dan39> i put packages on hold earlier, so now to fix just: echo "package install" | dpkg --set-selections?
[20:23] <bennypr0fane> gnubie is it in a separate utility?
[20:23] <L3top> np
[20:23]  * L3top is in too many support chats atm lol
[20:24] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> with the software center as your active window you should find an edit menu on the main task bar and it should have soucres as an selection
[20:25] <Dan39> yep that works :) nvm
[20:26] <raven> whiskers75 no it must be automatically because it would take two hours at least to paste this parts
[20:26] <Windrunner> i installed Diablo 3 on ubuntu 12.04 but it has bug and need it to run under older version will installing OS alongside help will i have rights to execute software installed on 12.04
[20:26] <vlt> L3top: No difference. I mounted sysfs and prov to the chroot, chrooted and ran `apt-get install apache2`. Now I got a running apache process on the system o_O.
[20:26] <vlt> L3top: How to prevent this?
[20:27] <qak> anyone know what pkg(s) allow Ubuntu music players (mpd, rhythmbox) to decode m4a, which isn't available (afaik) under Debian?
[20:27] <vlt> I only want it to _install_, not actually run anything.
[20:27] <vlt> L3top: s/prov/proc
[20:28] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> with the software center as your active window you should find an edit menu on the main task bar and it should have sources as an selection
[20:29] <L3top> vlt: can you please paste the output? And stopping apache2 on the host might be helpful.
[20:30] <qak> ldd `which rhythmbox ` | wc -l   ..... 107
[20:30] <bennypr0fane> gnubie multiverse wasn't enabled. I checked the box now, but that pkg is still not in the list
[20:30] <bennypr0fane> gnubie do i need to do anything else to make the repo available?
[20:30] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> let me check my source list
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> gnubie I mean will it be available if I just check the lil' checkbox?
[20:32] <arooni-mobile> generally accepted opinion on using ext4 versus ext3 on a ubuntu production server enviornment?
[20:33] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> my sources have all on the ubuntu tab checked  and on the other tab I have Concanical patners and independent checked
[20:33] <Guest1522> ;
[20:34] <mongo> arooni-mobile: ext4 boots a heck of a lot faster, I see no reason to use ext3 these days
[20:35] <Guest54652> alguien de chile?
[20:37] <vlt> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/993058/   What is stopping apache2 on the host helpful for?
[20:37] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> you need to run sudo apt-get update if you change the sources
[20:39] <bennypr0fane> gnubie: ha I found the s***er
[20:39] <best__> cvb
[20:39] <bennypr0fane> gnubie apt-get update was somehow blocked because I had a duplicate in the sources
[20:41] <L3top> that looks like it installed to me vlt.
[20:42] <bennypr0fane> gnubie still a duplicate it's weird: W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120425)/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%2012.04%20LTS%20%5fPrecise%20Pangolin%5f%20-%20Release%20amd64%20(20120425)_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:42] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> did not know it would let you set a duplicate source
[20:42] <vlt> L3top: Have you seen line 54?
[20:43] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> uncheck the cdrom as a source?
[20:43] <fraterm> whats a good app to clean up / manage /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:43] <vlt> L3top: I don’t want it to run an apache process. Just install.
[20:43] <fraterm> I have to clear up some errors with index files failing to download
[20:44] <fraterm> and an odd dialog box with multilingual text that seems to be related to adobe acroread fonts.
[20:45] <Suse99> welcome
[20:45] <Suse99> i 'am italein
[20:45] <L3top> vlt that sock failure happens because apache is already running on the host (which is what stopping it would help with, though they would both compete and I expect you would want to background the process if you wanted it run... which you dont). That installed, it simply couldnt bind to the sock. There is nothing to fix there.
[20:45] <Rescatux> do not know how to use the utility grub / install
[20:46] <L3top> exit the chroot environment and however you plan to normally run it... should have appache vlt
[20:46] <L3top> vlt: unmount all that stuff you mounted btw
[20:46] <raven> whiskers75 no it must be automatically because it would take two hours at least to paste this parts
[20:48] <Rescatux> I recorded the image of Rescatux, I am about to use it and when I run I get rescapp and not to make application to run grub-install
[20:48] <vlt> L3top: There was no apache running on the host before. That sock failure might propably come from an empty /dev directory …
[20:51] <wormmd> Need a quick solution: ssh'd to a server, typed 'clear', hit enter, got the error 'rxvt-unicode-256color': unknown terminal type. Never had to deal with this before, and Google has been thus far unhelpful. Thoughts?
[20:51] <bennypr0fane> gnubie I installed firmware-b43-installer via apt-get. It's still not in the list in SC though. Removed installed fwcutter and removed bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:53] <Aliv3> alright so I have ubuntu 11.04 and xp. I can't remember if it is wubi install or not, I installed a long time ago. anyways, xp won't boot.
[20:53] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> the cutter should stay installed I think.
[20:53] <ThePendulum> Is it possible at all to install Windows next to Ubuntu?
[20:53] <Aliv3> how can I fix xp from inside of ubuntu or am I sol
[20:53] <ThePendulum> When Ubuntu is already installed
[20:53] <bennypr0fane> wireless is still unavailable
[20:53] <bennypr0fane> gnubie now what do i do
[20:54] <bennypr0fane> gnubie remember i can't reboot
[20:54] <bennypr0fane> will these changes lead to anything without reboot?
[20:54] <ThePendulum> bennypr0fane: Why can't you reboot?
[20:54] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> it may need to be rebooted which means it own't work for you.
[20:55] <bennypr0fane> ThePendulum I can, but I'm on a live system, can't save any changes
[20:55] <wormmd> ThePendulum: you can install Windows on top of Ubuntu and then go back in live and fix grub.
[20:55] <wormmd> Aliv3: you can install Windows on top of Ubuntu and then go back in live and fix grub.
[20:55] <ThePendulum> wormmd: That sounds like a 'may or may not work' operation
[20:55] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> the fw-cutter should stay installed I think.
[20:55] <ThePendulum> wormmd: I could just install Windows over Ubuntu completely, but Ubuntu said it couldn't find any OS when I tried
[20:55] <ThePendulum> (tried to install it alongside Windows)
[20:56] <bennypr0fane> gnubie just installed, wasn't planning on removing it
[20:56] <wormmd> ThePendulum: I'm not saying it doesn't take a little configuration, but grub-install should take care of most of it for you.
[20:56] <L3top> vlt: I thought you bound /dev to chroot env as I put in here... sorry
[20:56] <bennypr0fane> gnubie but do I need to run it, or will it do things on its own?
[20:56] <L3top> vlt I am afk
[20:56] <vlt> L3top: I did now. And /dev/pts.
[20:57] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> are you wanting to use this usb stick just to boot into ubuntu on this laptop only?
[20:57] <vlt> L3top: Same result. Do you expect binding /dev to prevent the apache process from running?
[20:58] <bennypr0fane> yes, this laptop only
[20:58] <bennypr0fane> but i can create another live usb with persistence so i  can save changes
[20:59] <L3top> vlt: you are trying to fix something that isnt broken. Apache is installed... and not running... that was the goal yes?
[20:59] <L3top> again... I have to go afk
[20:59] <L3top> kids
[20:59] <Aliv3> wormmd: no cd. only a windows 7 cd and I don't think that this computer will support it ( bit in honesty I do have a tiny 7 that might work, but eh )
[21:00] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> in that case I boot into the install CD with the usb plugged in and do a rgular install on the usb stick and tel the install the grub goes onto the mbr on the stick.
[21:01] <vlt> L3top: It _is_ running.
[21:01] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> the laptop will boot from usb ports?
[21:01] <bennypr0fane> gnubie: ?  I have no CD, the system is running from the usb
[21:02] <vlt> Does anyone (else) know how to install something like the apache2 package without running the daemon?
[21:02] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>ahh,  guess I have run out of suggestions.
[21:02] <bennypr0fane> can't do anything to the usb
[21:02] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>later, need to go now
[21:02] <bennypr0fane> gnubie thanks anyway
[21:03] <bennypr0fane> gnubie me too
[21:03] <zastaph> when will git-core be updated to 1.7.10 from current <IP_ADDRESS> you think? weeks, months?
[21:03] <bennypr0fane> have a good nite!
[21:03] <gnubie> bennypr0fane welcome
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> vlt  apt-get download
[21:03] <vlt> MonkeyDust: That won’t download apache2 ;-)
[21:03] <L3top> vlt: unmount and kill the process... but, again, it isnt really running, that is what the sock error was about. It is installed... that is the goal is it not? If not, tell me what you are trying to do
[21:03] <VMERSINTO> does anyone know the terminal command to install teamviewer
[21:04] <cordoval> anyone has an asus g73jw with heating  problems because of nvidia driver?
[21:04] <Aliv3> can I change partition size after installation?
[21:04] <vlt> L3top: I’m trying to install (something like) apache without it being run on the host system.
[21:04] <Aliv3> can I run minecraft from here?
 does anyone know the terminal command to install teamviewer
[21:05] <Orpheon> why not synaptic?
[21:05] <llutz> vlt: you'll have to download the deb and edit the control-file
[21:05] <vlt> MonkeyDust: And `apt-get download apache2` will only download one single .deb file. No dependencies, no extracting …
[21:05] <VMERSINTO> Orpheon, i didn't know it was available through synaptic
[21:05] <Orpheon> teamviewer7
[21:05] <Orpheon> apparently
[21:05] <Orpheon> or 6
[21:05] <Orpheon> if you want that
[21:05] <VMERSINTO> Orpheon : what is it used for?
[21:06] <Orpheon> you can give an ID and a pass to someone
[21:06] <L3top> I dont think so...
[21:06] <Orpheon> and that someone can remote control your computer
[21:06] <vlt> llutz: Do you know a way to download all .deb files needed for a pkg (including dependencies)?
[21:06] <llutz> vlt: apt-get download foo
[21:06] <Orpheon> useful for servers, and for showing people how to do stuff
[21:06] <L3top> !teamviewer7
[21:06] <vlt> llutz: `apt-get download apache2` will only download one single .deb file. No dependencies, no extracting …
[21:06] <L3top> !info teamviewer7
[21:06] <VMERSINTO> Orpheon : I see
[21:06] <llutz> vlt: nonsense
[21:06] <Orpheon> well
[21:06]  * vlt tries.
 !info teamviewer7
 Package teamviewer7 does not exist in precise
[21:06] <Orpheon> it exists under that name in synaptic
[21:07] <llutz> vlt: even if it does, after installation you run "apt-get -f install" to fix missing depends
[21:07] <subthalamus> if u needed a way to check that php5-curl was installed and what version on ANY linux distro, where would u look?
[21:07] <IdleOne> subthalamus: in ubuntu apt-cache policy package-name
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !tab| Orpheon
[21:08] <IdleOne> subthalamus: other distros, you may want to try their support channels or ##linux
[21:08] <subthalamus> IdleOne: apt-cache doesn't exist on non debian distros
[21:08] <Orpheon> MonkeyDust: That's useful
[21:08] <IdleOne> subthalamus: right, but this is #ubuntu.
[21:08] <vlt> llutz: Yes, it does only download one.  `dpkg -i apa….deb` complains about missings dependencies. How to preceed now?
[21:08] <Orpheon> thank you
[21:08] <llutz> vlt: you'll have to download the deb and edit the control-file
[21:09] <llutz> vlt: theres an example in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856815
[21:09] <subthalamus> IdleOne: ok, my apt-cache is broken
[21:09] <subthalamus> it spits weird characters allover my screen when I run the command
[21:10] <IdleOne> subthalamus: then you have larger issues then finding if php5 is installed
[21:10] <subthalamus> IdleOne: suggest you let somebody else answer if you dont intend to help
[21:11] <L3top> vlt: sudo apt-get build-dep --download-only apache2
[21:11] <IdleOne> subthalamus: I am helping by telling you to ask in the channel for the distro you are using. You implied your not running Ubuntu.
[21:11] <IdleOne> you're*
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  in a terminal, what's the outcome of lsb-release -sd ?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  in a terminal, what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[21:13] <subthalamus> MonkeyDust: lsb_release: error: No arguments are permitted
[21:13] <IdleOne> subthalamus: what distro are you running?
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  then its not ubuntu
[21:14] <subthalamus> now you're both getting on my nerves
[21:14] <subthalamus> Linux s0 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:52 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[21:14] <IdleOne> subthalamus: This channel supports only Ubuntu and official flavours of Ubuntu. NOTHING else
[21:14] <brasileiro> oi
[21:14] <brasileiro> oi
[21:15] <subthalamus> who in here uses linux?
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  that s0 shows it's not really ubuntu
[21:15] <brasileiro> oi
[21:15] <subthalamus> thats the hostname genius
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[21:16] <Aliv3> whoops got distracted
[21:16] <IdleOne> subthalamus: I am going to tell you this one last time and if you ask one more question I am going to ban you. This channel supports only Ubuntu, also watch the attitude.
[21:16] <brasileiro> oi
[21:16] <IdleOne> !br | brasileiro
[21:16] <subthalamus> IdleOne: this IS ubuntu, thats not the point though
[21:16] <IdleOne> subthalamus: you're lying
[21:16] <subthalamus> gimme a break
[21:17] <brasileiro-br> eai blz?
[21:17] <elky> subthalamus, look up phpinfo(), or ask in ##php. Meanwhile, stop wasting our time.
[21:17] <brasileiro-br> eai
[21:17] <Kyle__> IdleOne: That kindof looks like he posted his uname -a instead lsb_release -sd
[21:18] <cordoval> thanks lorddelta i am sorry you couldn't help me more, anyone else can help me please?
[21:18] <elky> Kyle__, he did, because he knows he's asking in the wrong place.
[21:18] <IdleOne> Kyle__: it wasn't a Ubuntu uname afaik
[21:18] <cordoval> lorddelta: could you kind of summarize my problem here so that other people can see it?
[21:18] <IdleOne> anyway, moving on.
[21:18] <Kyle__> IdleOne: Looks awfully similar to mine, but then again he wasn't exactly being helpful himself.
[21:19] <cordoval> perhaps someone has already done this, as you tell me you consider that the problem is now on X11 xorg but the drivers don't show up correctly setup on the gui, not sure what to do now
[21:19] <brasileiro> oi
[21:19] <elky> Kyle__, the kernel version is usually the cincher.
[21:19] <cordoval> brasileiro: help
[21:19] <IdleOne> brasileiro: please stop.
[21:19] <brasileiro> tudo bem galera?
[21:19] <IdleOne> !br | brasileiro
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> brasileiro  please type /join #ubuntu-br
[21:20] <lorddelta> cordoval, sure anyways cordoval seems to have a problem with setting up his X server to work with his nvidia drivers; they seem to work, and are configured correctly as far as I can tell; however he's not setup to use his nvidia drivers with the X server, causing his cpus to overheat (presumably they are attempting to run the graphics operations by themselves)
[21:21] <Kyle__> I doughnut suppose anyone here has Matlab on their 'buntu box, and has upgraded to 12.04, so they could tell me if it works?
[21:21] <Orpheon> does anyone here happen to know stuff about the opengl spaces?
[21:21]  * Kyle__ sadly needs to fork over the $$ for it.
[21:21] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Opengl spaces?  You mean like the geometry of the world you're dealing with?
[21:21] <lorddelta> If anyone could help him with them, he's running the latest nvidia drivers, and he's already got stringent cpu governers applied.
[21:21] <Orpheon> I have a problem rendering skybox
[21:22] <Orpheon> it gets rotated around wrongly
[21:22] <lorddelta> cordoval: Good luck, cya round.
[21:22] <Orpheon> when this is applied:
[21:22] <Orpheon>     glRotatef(xrot, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0);
[21:22] <Orpheon>     glRotatef(yrot, -direction.z, 0.0, direction.x);
[21:22] <Orpheon> although the rest of the world works fine
[21:22] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Ah.  /join #opengl They'll be able to help there.
[21:22] <Orpheon> I tried
[21:22] <Orpheon> ##OpenGL :Cannot send to channel
[21:22] <Orpheon> :I
[21:23] <auronandace> !register | Orpheon
[21:23] <Kyle__> Orpheon: You could also try changing your texture to be the right rotation (cheating but hey ;)
[21:23] <Orpheon> no texture involved
[21:23] <testeee> f
[21:23] <Orpheon> that's procedural, but I didn't even start on that
[21:23] <Orpheon> talking just of the polygons
[21:24] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Oh.   Necessary if you're using a poly that's outwardly oriented.
[21:24] <Orpheon> https://gist.github.com/2721663
[21:24] <Orpheon> from line 23
[21:24] <Kyle__> Orpheon: If all your quads or triangles are right-handed, you need to render the inside of them.
[21:25] <Orpheon> aren't polygons rendered from both sides anyways?
[21:25] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Nope.  Defaults are to only render the outside iirc.
[21:25] <Orpheon> heh
[21:25] <Orpheon> well
[21:25] <Orpheon> it draws SOMETHING
[21:26] <Kyle__> Orpheon: And it moves all strange and mind-bending right?
[21:26] <Orpheon> yes
[21:26] <Orpheon> ok
[21:26] <Orpheon> howtofix
[21:26] <Orpheon> how do I render the inside?
[21:27] <Kyle__> Orpheon: this is way OT, so we should expect to be chastised soon, however...
[21:27] <Kyle__> Orpheon: If you're not going to move in and out of the skybox, change the orientation of your triangles.
[21:28] <ThePendulum> Damned... the compiz bar is stuck
[21:28] <vlt> YEEEEEES!
[21:28] <wiggmpk> Installed 12.04 (Desktop) on a 2nd harddrive (/dev/sdb) and It destroyed my MBR (/dev/sda) which now doesnt let me boot Windows 7 or Ubuntu 12.04. After using boot-repair, I am able to boot Ubuntu (/dev/sdb) but os-prober and grub-install will not and have not found my Windows 7 Install.. Not Happy.. plz help
[21:28] <vlt> L3top, llutz: I solved it.
[21:29] <cordoval> thanks lorddelta i hope someone can help me, :'(
[21:29] <vlt> L3top, llutz: I just needed to create the executable file /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d containing “exit 101”.
[21:30] <llutz> vlt: as in /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz described
[21:30] <vlt> That’s all. Now while installing any package I get “invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of start.”
[21:30] <const_> \list
[21:31] <Mischinka> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:31] <Mischinka> What is this?
[21:31] <const_> sudo
[21:31] <const_> use the sudo
[21:31] <cordoval> anyway i can hire ubuntu expert to work on my problem
[21:31] <cordoval> ?
[21:32] <const_> sudo apt-get
[21:32] <Mischinka> same, i also have this error:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:33] <ThePendulum> cordoval: What's your problem?
[21:33] <cordoval> ThePendulum: my problem is with nvidia drivers, i cannot get the latest version installed
[21:33] <cordoval> or lorddelta says it is there and even downloads
[21:34] <cordoval> lorddelta checked my files and saw that for him it is an Xorg configuration problem
[21:34] <ThePendulum> cordoval: What makes you assume the latest driver is not installed?
[21:34] <ThePendulum> cordoval: As in, what (performance) issues have occurred?
[21:34] <cordoval> that on the gui nvidia driver server settings i see the previous version not like his version
[21:34] <DarwinSurvivor> Mischinka: what do you get if you run "sudo ps aux | grep dpkg" and "sudo ps aux | grep apt"?
[21:34] <cordoval> ThePendulum: performance basically is temp ranges on 80-100C
[21:34] <cordoval> for both GPU and CPU
[21:35] <ThePendulum> The CPU as well? 80-100 is quite hot for a CPU
[21:35] <cordoval> yes
[21:35] <ThePendulum> It will last, but it will die earlier than a CPU running at no more than 60 degrees C
[21:35] <belgianguy> can one manage 3 monitors in 12.04?
[21:35] <ThePendulum> belgianguy: Yes, if your graphics card can handle it
[21:35] <cordoval> ThePendulum: yes swhat to do ?
[21:36] <belgianguy> vga is taken
[21:36] <belgianguy> but I have something else free
[21:36] <belgianguy> not hdmi, but something else
[21:36] <belgianguy> that can convert to it
[21:36] <wormmd> exit
[21:37] <wormmd> Exit
[21:38] <imdea> Hi, I just tried to upgrade my ubuntu system from 10.04 to 12.04 but this is what i received in my console:  http://pastebin.com/6tjSpuKN
[21:38] <imdea> any ideas?
[21:39] <belgianguy> DisplayPort
[21:39] <wiggmpk> Installed 12.04 (Desktop) on a 2nd harddrive (/dev/sdb) and It destroyed my MBR (/dev/sda) which now doesnt let me boot Windows 7 or Ubuntu 12.04. After using boot-repair, I am able to boot Ubuntu (/dev/sdb) but os-prober and grub-install will not and have not found my Windows 7 Install.. Not Happy.. plz help
[21:40] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: first backup whatever you deem worthy
[21:40] <belgianguy> and then perhaps consider TestDisk
[21:41] <wiggmpk> Why is there NO option in the Desktop LiveCD version to leave the MBR untouched?
[21:41] <belgianguy> TestDisk can repair the MBR afaik
[21:41] <GeoGeek> Anybody know why my desktop shows sometimes even though screen is locked?  On 12.04 but this happened on 11.10 too. There is a question on AskUbuntu but nobody has tried to answer it yet.
[21:42] <wiggmpk> I want a solution that doesnt involve another piece of software (much like boot-repair that caused more damage than helped)
[21:42] <cancer> how to install ibm E72 Drivers?
[21:42] <cancer> and yes from where?
[21:44] <wiggmpk> why does "sudo os-prober" NOT find my Windows 7 disk/partitions?
[21:44] <dlentz> what is an ibm e72?
[21:44] <cordoval> are there logs for this chat?
[21:44] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: never use a tool if you don't know what it'll do
[21:44] <cordoval> anyone expert in X11 Xorg here?
[21:45] <belgianguy> I can attest that TestDisk saved someone's pc
[21:45] <belgianguy> and that he even sent beer from Austria to Belgium for it
[21:45] <belgianguy> so it has its merits, so it seems
[21:45] <wiggmpk> belgianguy thanks for the advice.. but heinsight already set in on this situation. so, if you have something constructive, I'd love to hear it.. But your comments are just a waste of energy if they arent helpful
[21:46] <wiggmpk> and I am familiar with boot-repair.. Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop LiveCD is the culprut.. not boot-repair..
[21:47] <belgianguy> try a _scan_ with testdisk, don't modify anything, if it can restore your mbr, wouldn't that solve part of your problem?
[21:47] <belgianguy> that's all I have to say
[21:47] <belgianguy> good luck
[21:47] <wiggmpk> belgianguy so you know a guy/gal, who knows a guy/gal, who had a problem... no.. I want a reliable linux solution that can be done in the operating system.. not using another peice of software
[21:47] <belgianguy> no, I'm a guy, who used it and saved his pc with it
[21:47] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, no need to be rude
[21:47] <belgianguy> gave it as advice to someone with a broken pc
[21:48] <belgianguy> he was so happy he sent some beer over from Austria to my place
[21:48] <belgianguy> but you're on your own now
[21:48] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup dont confuse rude with frustration
[21:48] <belgianguy> I'm not here to frustrate people
[21:48] <Silversong> Hey everyone.
[21:48] <wiggmpk> belgianguy check your verage.. the way you wrote the sentence wasnt person.. you know it saved "someones pc"
[21:49] <tyler_d> well hello there channel
[21:49] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: whatever man, pour gasoline over it and get a new one
[21:49] <wiggmpk> I am looking for a "built in" solution to this problem
[21:49] <belgianguy> problem solved for me
[21:49] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, nice excuse
[21:50] <tyler_d> I have a 32 bit 11.04 system that I am trying to get to "sniff" for wireless networks using aireplay, I am now to the point however that my wireless networks are "greyed out" and thus I cannot connect to them.
[21:50] <wiggmpk> this is the first time ive used the Desktop LiveCD, it doesnt prompt anywhere during the install where I wanted it to boot from..
[21:50] <wiggmpk> reinstalling from the LiveCD same thing (only it doesnt resuse or delete previous swap partitions, its just makes more)
[21:51] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, have you tried using the windows 7 repair install?
[21:51] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, then boot-repairing from the live cd see if that helps?
[21:51] <wiggmpk> why would I do that?
[21:52] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, just a suggestion because grub has had 0 problems detecting my windows 7 install
[21:52] <belgianguy> yeah, I have 2 windows 7 images on 2 different hdds
[21:52] <belgianguy> and grub finds them all
[21:52] <wiggmpk> well grub didnt mind my win7 install
[21:53] <wiggmpk> and was running fine when it was 11.10
[21:53] <belgianguy> check its config files?
[21:53] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, which is why I'm thinking there is something wrong with it.
[21:53] <belgianguy> perhaps some uuids got switched?
[21:53] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, I'd read over this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1855687
[21:53] <wiggmpk> yeah, the MBR was destroyed during install
[21:53] <belgianguy> TestDisk can restore the MBR
[21:54] <belgianguy> but by all means
[21:54] <belgianguy> feel free to ignore it
[21:54] <goddard> can some one help me with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/120640/unity-toolbar-icons-disappear-on-boot
[21:54] <TomatoKetchup> personally, I'd use windows cd to fix my windows mbr, then try reinstalling grub, if it persists then there's something else wrong.  That's just how I'd proceed.
[21:54] <st2> MonkeyDust: This is subthalamus. The reason your command didn't work is because of the ? at the end. lsb_release -sd returns Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. You guys should really be less closed minded.
[21:54] <wiggmpk> I'd rather not use another piece of software.. boot-repair was putting Grub in the incorrect (however their default) location
[21:54] <st2> IdleOne: Subthalamus here, the answer to the question you couldn't be bothered to answer was "php5 --re curl"
[21:55] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, sorry if you already posted, but what is your partition/drive setup like?
[21:56] <belgianguy> tools and magic fixes only work in a very little amount of cases
[21:56] <goddard> anyone ever had their ubuntu unity icons disappear?
[21:56] <zach2825> wiggmpk, im sorry im late on this but have you tried using grub from the terminal to rebuld ot?
[21:56] <belgianguy> and even then should only attempted if they are well researched and a backup exists
[21:56] <TomatoKetchup> zach2825, yeah I think he has, it's not finding his windows install
[21:56] <zach2825> goddard, maybe you have to restart nautilus press alt+f2 and type r and press enter..
[21:57] <wiggmpk> I'm not trying to be difficult.. actually I'm getting more difficulty from you guys than I execpted. But I want a manual workaround, not a tool or some program, where I am at the whym of the programmers. http://paste.ubuntu.com/993195/
[21:57] <zach2825> TomatoKetchup, ok thank you you can use ubcd11 only way i was ever able to fix that..
[21:57] <Viking667> I have an Ubuntu install, (11.10), and am running Gnome Classic. How do I make the panels hide away, or how do I change the size of the icons?
[21:57] <Viking667> I've already looked in gconf-editor, and the options simply aren't there.
[21:57] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, the link I posted gave your instructions for fixing it yourself
[21:58] <tyler_d> I need a hand enabling wpa2 wireless encryption (was working before) please?
[21:58] <wiggmpk> zach2825 grub will install fine everything /dev/sda & /dev/sdb, however os-prober doesnt recognize WIndows install
[21:59] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup im not running scripts from forums on my machine
[21:59] <psych> I'm trying to install ubuntu minimal in virtual box and when it attempts to download packages it brings up a warning saying it couldn't download dpkg 1.16.1. I've tried numerous mirrors. The packages it fails on aren't always the same either. Anyone know whats up?
[21:59] <zach2825> wiggmpk, i see only thing i ever had luck getting windows in my grub was ubcd11
[21:59] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup: apparently you didnt read it when I said I dont want any software
[21:59] <Viking667> and here I am, I don't have any trouble with grub discovering BOTH windows partitions, AND the recovery partition. Sigh.
[22:00] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: feel free to edit files at infinitum, things like the MBR are hard to restore without extra software
[22:00] <zach2825> wiggmpk, can you use gparted to make sure your windows partition is still there?
[22:00] <belgianguy> perhaps you should give it a rest for now
[22:00] <psych> ntpdate also fails
[22:00] <ldiamond> Is there a way to launch an application on a specific workspace (and even specific monitor also)? I want to always launch a set of applications on each of my workspace when I login.
[22:00] <Viking667> psych: can it get out to the internet at large? pinging www.google.com is a good indicator
[22:00] <ldiamond> btw, I'm on 12.04, I'm using gnome panel w/ Metacity
[22:00] <wiggmpk> zach2825: i linked the results of fdisk bro
[22:01] <Viking667> heh. You're not the only one who wants that. Can't do it with metacity.
[22:01] <psych> Viking667, it can. It successfully goes through a-d when downloading. Just fails usually at dpkg
[22:01] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, frankly I don't like your attitude
[22:01] <Viking667> I was using Kwm, or enlightenment for that.
[22:01] <zach2825> wiggmpk, lol im gonna step out of this one.. im too late..
[22:01] <tesmar_> metacity?
[22:01] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup: dualy noted
[22:01] <tesmar_> I use classic gnome
[22:01] <Viking667> psych: try this:  apt-get update
[22:01] <spartan2276> How can I get my Wacom tablet to work?
[22:01] <Viking667> psych: then "apt-get upgrade"
[22:01] <psych> Viking667, I can't. It's an ubuntu minimal installation
[22:02] <tesmar_> the gnome 2.X series is great for usability
[22:02] <spartan2276> Do I need to add myself to the Udev Group?
[22:02] <Viking667> psych: huh? so no apt?
[22:02] <psych> Viking667, it hasn't even installed yet. This is just trying to get that far.
[22:02] <Viking667> that's weird.
[22:02] <psych> No nothing right now.
[22:02] <ldiamond> I can't believe it's impossible to do that...
[22:02] <Viking667> Are you still in the installer??
[22:02] <psych> Viking667, I am. It's a text based installer.
[22:02] <Viking667> ldiamond: impossible for what? metacity?
[22:02] <ldiamond> You can always start an application and then wait for it to load before you call wmctrl...
[22:03] <Viking667> psych: hm.
[22:03] <ldiamond> Viking667, yea
[22:03] <psych> That's what I thought.
[22:03] <spartan2276> If yes, How can I add my user to Udev?
[22:03] <Viking667> ldiamond: that's separate from metacity though.
[22:03] <ldiamond> Viking667, I don't mind, as long as the result is the same.
[22:03] <ldiamond> Viking667, I'm just noting that I'm using metacity.
[22:03] <psych> Viking667, it's usually dpkg where it fails, but it just did the same thing on xz-utils. It looks like it gets through some of them though.
[22:03] <Viking667> I've never had the "pleasure" of using wmctrl
[22:03] <Aliv3> oh yeah, got distracted I remember what I wanted to know now, how can I repartition without loosing everything
[22:04] <psych> And it says it successfully set up the network
[22:04] <Viking667> psych: right. Ping www.google.com for me?
[22:04] <Viking667> (from inside the virtual machine)
[22:04] <psych> www.google.com is alive!
[22:04] <Viking667> hm. Right.
[22:05] <Viking667> choose another mirror, perhaps?
[22:05] <umadbor> ddos coming
[22:05] <hormigas> Anyone know about encFS? I've seen a lot of talk about it lately for use in conjuction with dropbox, but it looks to me like the software hasn't been updated in 2 years.
[22:05] <psych> Viking667, thats its response from the busybox shell or something. I've chosen Bahamas, Canada, US, and something in Europe I think
[22:05] <Viking667> huh? and it does the same thing in every case?
[22:05] <TomatoKetchup> umadbor, coming where?
[22:06] <psych> Viking667, yeah. That's why I think it's my machine.
[22:06] <umadbor> coming to www.facebook.com
[22:06] <Viking667> weird. or your virtual machine, at least.
[22:06] <umadbor> watch facebook lol
[22:06] <umadbor> about to go down apperantly.
[22:06] <Viking667> anyhow, I need to depart. Bai...
[22:06] <TomatoKetchup> Ah.
[22:06] <tyler_d> how do you determine which module relates to your wireless card
[22:06] <Biblioclasta> psych, are you using nat as network adapter?
[22:07] <psych> Biblioclasta, I've no idea. I never changed whatever virtual box's default was. I'll check.
[22:07] <vlt> Hello. Is one difference between apt and aptitude that apt will only install dependencies wuhile aptitude always installs all recommended packages?
[22:07] <vlt> *while
[22:07] <psych> Biblioclasta, it appears I am:
[22:07] <psych> Adapter 1:
[22:07] <psych> Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (NAT)
[22:08] <escott> vlt, that is configurable, but per the defaults yes
[22:08] <psych> I can download the installer components though
[22:08] <goddard> zach2825: it happens almost every time i reboot
[22:08] <Kyle__> I don't suppose anyone knows of a minimal ipp daemon for ubuntu server?  I have no interest in installing avahi hpijs or samba just to print an existing ipp printer.
[22:09] <Silversong> jw how often should I apt-get update (for precise)?
[22:09] <goddard> zach2825: sounds like that would only be a temp fix
[22:09] <surt> I'm terribly sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'm trying to stream video/audio via ssh, but my pc always use different IP's when connecting to my router. Does anyone know of a way to have a computer have it's own...domain?? So I don't have to have separate configurations for <IP_ADDRESS> and 3 and 4 etc etc etc
[22:09] <Biblioclasta> psych, try set the adapter to bridged adapter
[22:09] <escott> Kyle__, cups should do ipp
[22:10] <Biblioclasta> psych, and setup the network again in the installer
[22:10] <vlt> Can I exclude certain recommended packages from being installed by aptitude?
[22:10] <Kyle__> escott: Yes, but installing it requires all of avahi, hplip and a ton of other packages that I don't want.
[22:11] <cordoval> lorddelta: ping
[22:11] <psych> Biblioclasta, I will. Thanks for the idea.
[22:11] <cordoval> now temps are 74C and 53C latter for GPU
[22:11] <cordoval> but still alarming 74C
[22:11] <Kyle__> escott: All those things are useful if not neccesary (like the poppler utils) if your printer is local, but if you're printing to another cups server or a well behavied ipp printer, you don't need it.
[22:11] <cordoval> lorddelta: oh and the version is 295.53
[22:11] <cordoval> is that the version that you have got!????
[22:12] <zach2825> goddard, it could possibly be a profile conflict.. try to create a new user name and log into that account..
[22:12] <luvchunk> hello
[22:12] <zach2825> goddard, have you tried that?
[22:12] <goddard> zach2825: nope
[22:13] <zach2825> i've had a similar issue in ubuntu 10.04 when i was using that.. and the new user fixed it i don't know what the issue was thou
[22:13] <luvchunk> Hi can somebody help me please? :)
[22:13] <CAPITANO> Ciao a tutti!!!
[22:14] <Dan39> ruli: how to shut compositing off? i dont think i can in this version of KDE
[22:14] <belgianguy> luvchunk: don't ask to ask, just ask
[22:14] <ruli> Dan39: maybe alt+shift+f9 or f12 i dont remember default shortcut. ask in #kde if it doesn't work
[22:15] <ruli> Dan39: otherwise it's in 3d desktop effects in systemsettings to completely disable
[22:16] <luvchunk> ok cheers im trying to install ubuntu on my pc but it keeps saying multiple active partitions reboot and select proper boot device
[22:17] <goddard> zach2825: nope still doesn't work
[22:17] <goddard> zach2825: good idea though
[22:17] <escott> luvchunk, boot the livecd, then use gparted to remove the "bootable" flag from the partitions
[22:18] <zach2825> goddard, im stuck lol good luck thou
[22:18] <wormmd> When is it appropriate to sudo -s versus sudo <command>?
[22:18] <zach2825> workcjk, when you have many commands to run..
[22:18] <zach2825> but then leave the root asap..
[22:18] <luvchunk> im using the live usb key and it just goes straight to that screen?
[22:19] <pfifo> !info gnomebaker
[22:19] <wormmd> zach2825: I was just curious about the implications of uid/gid with commands run with sudo -s.
[22:19] <surt> !info dns
[22:19] <pfifo> there used to be a gnomebaker package where can I get this software?
[22:19] <escott> luvchunk, how did you make this usb?
[22:19] <zach2825> workcjk, good question.. sorry i was bad with my answer.
[22:20] <luvchunk> on my laptop
[22:20] <wormmd> zach2825: no worries, you did make a good point about dropping out of root asap :)
[22:20] <surt> Can anyone help me with ssh connections and LAN DNSes? I'm inept in networking...
[22:20] <wormmd> pfifo: can you specify older repos in sources.list to have access to it?
[22:20] <luvchunk> think the program was called lilo
[22:21] <wormmd> pfifo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11933907#post11933907
[22:21] <goddard> how can i log a user out from the admin account?
[22:21] <pfifo> wormmd, maybe, id just as soon boot 10.04 though
[22:21] <wormmd> pfifo: yuck, why? ;)
[22:22] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: I think you mean "LiLi" :)
[22:22] <Fat-Thing> how can i upgrade nmap using terminal?
[22:22] <luvchunk> yes i did sorry
[22:22] <pfifo> wormmd, cause i have it on 10.04
[22:22] <wormmd> pfifo: I think that link just tells you add a ppa with the gnomebaker packages from natty
[22:22] <escott> Fat-Thing, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;
[22:22] <wormmd> pfifo: you mean you have 10.04 already installed?
[22:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Fat-Thing: could you be more specific? Do you want to *only* upgrade nmap, upgrade nmap beyond the repo's version, or just upgrade it with everything else?
[22:23] <pfifo> wormmd, no i have a 10.04 livecd
[22:23] <wormmd> pfifo: I assumed you mean downgrading to 10.04 :-|
[22:23] <Fat-Thing> yes sir DarwinSurvivor only nmap app
[22:23] <wormmd> pfifo: ah, like snagging the package from the live cd. Just add the ppa.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: Does this USB drive have more than one partition?
[22:24] <pfifo> wormmd, no boot 10.04, burn my audio cd and then boot back to precise. Hopefully this package appears soon.
[22:25] <Guest1142> gedit freezes everytime i open jquery and try to scroll or do anything like that
[22:25] <luvchunk> no just the one partition iv tried two seperate usb keys both do the same thing
[22:26] <cuddylier> Hello
[22:26] <cuddylier> How do I change the vsftp password?
[22:26] <cuddylier> What is the command?
[22:26] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: Is burning a CD an option?
[22:27] <wormmd> pfifo: launchpad didn't show it in onieric...
[22:27] <luvchunk> no sorry i have no discs at the moment
[22:27] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: Can you try booting the USB with another computer?
[22:29] <cycorp> hello all can anyone tell me how to get gnome to be my desktop when I vnc into my server
[22:29] <luvchunk> iv tried it on this computer it does the same and with both keys im baffled iv installed ubuntu a few time and never come across this before
[22:29] <Kingsy> guys, how do I play audio cd's on my ubuntu install? I am getting an error saying "a audio cd source plugin is required" from parole.. what do I need?
[22:30] <cordoval> lorddelta: solved i think
[22:30] <cordoval> latest driver indeed solved the problem
[22:30] <cordoval> man
[22:30] <zorael> What could cause my ext4 partitions getting flagged with needs_recovery everytime you mount them? fsck gets rid of the flag but it's there again after mount
[22:30] <zorael> like so: http://i.imgur.com/fTOoD.png
[22:31] <lorddelta> cordoval: oh?
[22:32] <belgianguy> luvchunk: is the USB the first boot device?
[22:32] <burrito_> gedit freezes everytime i try to do anything with jquery-1.7.2.min.js
[22:32] <grimeton> hi
[22:32] <ThePendulum> lorddelta: Encouraged him to install the drivers listed. Told him the temperatures his GPU is running at (50-80C) is just fine for the GPU he has
[22:33] <grimeton> where are the manual pages to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf users.conf et al?
[22:33] <luvchunk> yes its first in boot order
[22:33] <wormmd> grimeton: I'm assuming man lightdm doesn't work?
[22:33] <grimeton> wormmd: you ever read the lightdm manual page?
[22:34] <tyler_d> anyone know much about wireless(wpa2)
[22:34] <wormmd> grimeton: It's pretty sparse, I just pulled it up. Doesn't look like there are man pages for the conf files.
[22:34] <tyler_d> all of my wpa2 networks are grey
[22:34] <cuddylier> Hello, How do I change my vsftp server password?
[22:34] <cuddylier> What is the command?
[22:34] <grimeton> wormmd: surprise (!) ... guess that's why i'm asking here
[22:34] <johnmetoyer27> So, I've been attempting a tri-boot between Mac OSX Lion, WinXP, and Ubuntu 12.04 on my iMac. right now when I try to log in to my Ubuntu partition from rEFIt my windows partition loads. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Grub is installed on same partition as Ubuntu
[22:35] <belgianguy> luvchunk: and can you run the 'test Ubuntu' ?
[22:36] <belgianguy> eg, not installing it
[22:36] <hattorihanzo> byobu in 12.04 is f'd up
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> hattorihanzo  what's wrong with it? i use it too
[22:36] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password? What is the command? I'll not spam.
[22:36] <Kingsy> how do I play audio cd's on my ubuntu install? I am getting an error saying "a audio cd source plugin is required" from parole.. what do I need?
[22:36] <hattorihanzo> did u deal with the infinitscrolling bug?
[22:37] <grimeton> anyone else?
[22:37] <luvchunk> no i turn my computer on i get the bios screen the the multiple partitions screen no mention of linux or anything
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> hattorihanzo  if you're addressing me: no, never heard of it
[22:37] <hattorihanzo> this bug exists in more than just the logo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/byobu/+bug/952724
[22:37] <aguitel> hattorihanzo, and what about bill
[22:37] <hattorihanzo> its breaking /usr/lib/byobu/updates_available as well
[22:37] <hattorihanzo> bill?
[22:38] <belgianguy> luvchunk: might sound dumb, but tried another USB port?
[22:38] <aguitel> you kill bill?
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> lol
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> no.. i think uma thurman did
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> i just made the steel
[22:38] <aguitel> jejejeje
[22:38] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password? What is the command?
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> but still, anyone else dealing with byobu infinit scroll bug
[22:39] <luvchunk> yeah iv tried all of em when the bios checks its sees the usb mass storage device
[22:39] <belgianguy> weird, guess it doesn't find the bootable image
[22:39] <wormmd> grimeton: so you're asking where man pages are that you know don't exist? ;) /usr/share/doc/lightdm has a gzipped "example" file. There really needs to be more documentation on that...
[22:39] <belgianguy> have another pc around, luvchunk ?
[22:40] <wormmd> grimeton: that example file isn't too much help either. What are you trying to do?
[22:40] <Kingsy> how do I play audio cd's on my ubuntu install? I am getting an error saying "a audio cd source plugin is required" from parole.. what do I need?
[22:40] <belgianguy> perhaps try loading it there, if it also doesn't load there
[22:40] <grimeton> i'm trying to find a manual page that explains how the logon session is set and can be changed
[22:40] <dsadsa> does gnome-shell work well with a intel 965GM ??
[22:40] <belgianguy> it's the USB that's faulty
[22:40] <grimeton> wormmd: just using good old .xinitrc was to easy i guess?
[22:41] <dsadsa> cuz I installed it, but when I log in with "gnome" it loads gnome-classic :/
[22:41] <luvchunk> yeah i get the same thing the only thing i can think of is i used to have linux on both then put win7 on both could windows have messed something up in my bios or something?
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> Kingsy  only in parole? have you tried a different player?
[22:41] <tujohnubu> i cant seem to find advanced tap when adding new users in the latest version of ubuntu, where is it?
[22:41] <tujohnubu> tap == tab
[22:42] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password, the command?
[22:42] <wormmd> grimeton: I use .xinitrc when remoting in because it works. Other than that, my last run session always comes up first when I boot up. Try setting user-session in /etc/init/lightdm.conf.
[22:42] <luvchunk> iv tried two differant usb sticks
[22:42] <tujohnubu> where can i set user privileges in new ubuntu?
[22:43] <grimeton> wormmd: so where is the man page of lightdm.conf that explains what this war is and does and which values one can use there?
[22:43] <TomatoKetchup> luvchunk, sorry if you already stated, in what OS and how did you make this usb key?
[22:43] <aaas> i set display_errors in /etc/php5/apache/php.ini but it doesn't seem to be sent in phpinfo() after server restart,  is tehre some way that my php is in
[22:43] <dsadsa> gnome-shell works with a intel 965GM ??  Cause I installed it, but when I log in with "gnome" it loads gnome-classic :/
[22:43] <dsadsa> $ glxinfo | grep render ------> direct rendering: Yes      OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2     GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render
[22:43] <grimeton> s/war/var/
[22:43] <aaas> ....development mode
[22:43] <tujohnubu> anyone? user privileges?
[22:44] <luvchunk> im on windows 7 and i used lili
[22:45] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password, the command?
[22:46] <grimeton> cuddylier: which backend is vsftp using for authentication?
[22:46] <belgianguy> luvchunk: perhaps try this method? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:46] <cuddylier> sftp
[22:46] <cuddylier> grimeton
[22:46] <luvchunk> il have a go now and let you know thankyou
[22:46] <belgianguy> but I'd try on of your USB's on another computer first
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: it uses sftp for authentication ?
[22:47] <belgianguy> just to see whether they work
[22:47] <cuddylier> Yes
[22:47] <belgianguy> np
[22:47] <cuddylier> sftp
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: in which database are the users and passwords stored?
[22:47] <cuddylier> I aint that sure..
[22:47] <cuddylier> How do I tell?
[22:47] <cuddylier> I only have one user
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: see, that's because you don't know the authentication backend
[22:47] <cuddylier> I use vsftp
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: if not other configured it uses the auth modes defined in /etc/pam.d/vsftpd
[22:47] <cuddylier> Yeah, I know it is sftp
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: which usually are the system users with a default shell
[22:47] <luvchunk> ok will do thanks
[22:48] <cuddylier> is there a command to change the password? I remember one before
[22:48] <grimeton> cuddylier: so if you want to change a password, you have to change the password of the corresponding system usert
[22:48] <grimeton> cuddylier: man passwd
[22:48] <cuddylier> Oh...
[22:48] <cuddylier> The user password..
[22:48] <grimeton> cuddylier: if the manpage even exists and has enough information to configure that ...
[22:48] <cuddylier> I get it
[22:48] <cuddylier> How do I change the user password?
[22:49] <grimeton> cuddylier: by reading the manual page of the passwd command
[22:49] <cuddylier> Do you know the command?
[22:49] <grimeton> cuddylier: you want to scroll up and read what i've written ...
[22:49] <cuddylier> I dunno what a manpage is :(
[22:50] <grimeton> cuddylier: open a terminal and write "man passwd"
[22:50] <grimeton> cuddylier: without the quotes
[22:50] <cuddylier> k
[22:51] <wormmd> grimeton: I've been digging around, I have no idea where to find what sessions are available.
[22:51] <wormmd> grimeton: I mean, it's not even my problem, and it's annoying me :)
[22:51] <tujohnubu> where can i set user privileges in new ubuntu?
[22:51] <cuddylier> Now what?
[22:51] <tujohnubu> i cant seem to find advanced tab when adding new users in the latest version of ubuntu, where is it?
[22:51] <grimeton> cuddylier: read - you have to use your eyes and read
[22:52] <cuddylier> I do.
[22:52] <TomatoKetchup> luvchunk, is your usb key 2gb or greater?
[22:52] <escott> tujohnubu, it might not exist. what do you want to do?
[22:52] <cuddylier> grimeton Would changing the user password change the mysql password?
[22:53] <grimeton> cuddylier: no
[22:53] <grimeton> cuddylier: do you have any idea what you are talking about?
[22:53] <tujohnubu> escott: so , there is no notion of privileges in the latest ubuntu?
[22:53] <cuddylier> grimeton Not really :S Which is why I came here :(
[22:53] <grimeton> cuddylier: there are tons of different passwords on the system
[22:53] <escott> tujohnubu, no there is but it may not be exposed in that part of the gui
[22:53] <cuddylier> grimeton I have the user ryan
[22:54] <grimeton> cuddylier: the main basic passwords that are used are the ones stored in the system's passwd database (usually shadow)
[22:54] <cuddylier> But, is there not a command like passwd ryan or something?
[22:54] <cuddylier> I remember using one before
[22:54] <grimeton> cuddylier: every service that tries to authenticate against that database has a file with it's executable's name (like vsftpd) in /etc/pam.d/
[22:55] <grimeton> if this service tries to auth against the system, the instructions in the file are read and processed from top to bottom
[22:55] <grimeton> if it goes wrong -> no login, else login
[22:55] <grimeton> mysql stores it's own password database
[22:55] <grimeton> it's inside the database called "mysql"
[22:55] <cuddylier> grimeton But if I change my user password will that not change the user password?
[22:55] <wormmd> grimeton: best of luck, sorry I couldn't be more help
[22:55] <grimeton> cuddylier: if you change the password via the passwd command then the users password is changed
[22:56] <grimeton> cuddylier: but that does not effect the password stored inside mysql
[22:56] <grimeton> wormmd: yeah, thanks anyway
[22:56] <cuddylier> Good, What is the actual command? The man command thing didn't really show it. I have no clue about ubuntu.
[22:56] <grimeton> cuddylier: passwd
[22:56] <grendal-prime> lost my 70-persistant-net.rules file
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/07/01/howto-reset-mysql-root-password-on-ubuntu-when-youve-forgotten-it/
[22:58] <caesar_> what's the best theme.. or best place to get themes?
[22:58] <tujohnubu> what the hell, why new ubuntu is so limited in setting? i'm an administrator
[22:58] <Sheldon42> caesar_, Try deviantart, or gnome-look
[22:58] <tujohnubu> is the advanced mode in new ubuntu?
[22:58] <caesar_> Sheldon42: gnome-look is down for me
[22:58] <blitzkrieg766> i want to build an ubuntu server vm, but i need a url to use wget to download it [from a freebsd machine] anybody know the url?
[22:58] <escott> tujohnubu, if you want to ask how to do things we can you tell you. if you just want to complain please find somewhere else
[22:59] <ruli> tujohnubu: developers know better. you're just a lowly user.
[22:59] <cuddylier> Thanks grimeton
[22:59] <Sheldon42> caesar_, Looks like it's up http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/gnome-look.org
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: what do you want to change? I've never had any issues
[22:59] <aaas> anyone know why i have both /etc/apache2 and /etc/apache2filter directories
[22:59] <tujohnubu> escott: is there a way to swith to an old gnome interface like there  http://www.instructables.com/id/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/step3/Set-up-XScreensaver/
[23:00] <johnmetoyer27> So, I've been attempting a tri-boot between Mac OSX Lion, WinXP, and Ubuntu 12.04 on my iMac. right now when I try to log in to my Ubuntu partition from rEFIt my windows partition loads. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Grub is installed on same partition as Ubuntu
[23:00] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: i can't find user priveleges tab
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> caesar_: theming is an opinion thing, so the 'best theme' doesn't exist for any oS
[23:00] <tujohnubu> priviledges
[23:00] <escott> !notunity | tujohnubu
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: you can modify users under the cog icon in the top right of the screen, if that's what you are after?
[23:00] <siganderson>  mi sapreste dire nel virtual terminal da dove viene caricata la keymap?
[23:01] <siganderson> sorry
[23:01] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: as in "user can access cd rom drive"
[23:01] <tujohnubu> escott: i'm on ubuntu 12
[23:01] <tujohnubu> escott: same?
[23:01] <escott> tujohnubu, yes
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: users should be able to mount CDs, does it not automount?
[23:02] <MrGizmo757> is anybody else having problems with Thunderbird?  after installing updates Thunderbird can no longer connect.
[23:03] <Xirrin> I have what is probably a pretty simple /mount, external hard drive, and NFS question that I don't want to spam the channel with if someone has just a few minutes. Pretty sure its a simple request, but haven't been able to find the answers via Google so far.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: can you ping the email server?
[23:03] <MrGizmo757> yes i can.
[23:03] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: http://www.instructables.com/id/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/step2/Create-a-Basic-User/ the image second from the right
[23:03] <forbidden404> Hi, there, guys, I need help with two things, and i REALLY need help with this, I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu all over again ):
[23:03] <MrGizmo757> i have tried multiple email accouns  Gmail and hotmail ect.  none work.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: yes, that's in the cog menu in the top right
[23:04] <Xirrin> My Thunderbird works fine. :-/
[23:04] <MrGizmo757> this all started after the latest ubuntu updates today
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: do you use a proxy for web access?
[23:04] <tujohnubu> escott: should i use gnome fallback mode?
[23:04] <escott> tujohnubu, if you would like
[23:04] <MrGizmo757> No proxy.
[23:04] <NFisher> hi all! how can i give out all numbers from 1 to 100, every one of it in a new line?
[23:04] <tujohnubu> escott: as in would you recommend this path?
[23:04] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: I would start looking at your internet/firewall/network settings.
[23:04] <NFisher> in terminal of course
[23:05] <escott> tujohnubu, if you would like. not sure how else to answer that.
[23:05] <Xirrin> forbidden404: Whats up?
[23:05] <MrGizmo757> Thunderbird works on my windows machine.  Thunderbird also worked on My ubuntu machine until the recent updates
[23:05] <trism> NFisher: seq 1 100;
[23:05] <tujohnubu> escott: ok, i'll just try this way, and then another if i woudn't like it
[23:05] <blitzkrieg766> i'm looking for ubuntu server iso [ftp that has them] anybody know?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4680971#post4680971
[23:05] <tujohnubu> won't*
[23:06] <NFisher> trism, thx!!
[23:06] <escott> tujohnubu, there are also gnome extensions on extensions.gnome.org
[23:06] <MrGizmo757> i tried reinstalling thunderbird and it just says unable to find settings.   so i try to set up gmail manually and it tells me my password is wrong. even though it isnt.
[23:06] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: I can tell you that today's updates had no impact on my Thunderbird. I'm downloading new e-mail as we type.
[23:06] <forbidden404> Xirrin: I have a Hybrid Graphics, and I did everything in, and was fine, I created a script to run and turn off the discrete card, but now, I recieve an error, like bash /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch such file or diretory doesn't exist or something
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> blitzkrieg766: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[23:06] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, thx, but seq is handier ;)
[23:06] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: Have you tried using another client? Also - do you have 2-level authentication turned on for Google?
[23:07] <forbidden404> Xirrin: and the second problem is about Online Accounts, this thing just disappeared and I don't know how to put it again
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: often more than one way to do things in bash :)
[23:07] <tujohnubu> also one thing that bothers me is that i'm not able to set my resolution to more that 1024x768 is there a way to set a higher resolution?
[23:07] <blitzkrieg766> ty parsnip!!!!
[23:07] <tujohnubu> than*
[23:07] <blitzkrieg766> so wait, does that mean the server and workstation are from the same iso?
[23:07] <Xirrin> forbidden404: Have you tried "sudo mkdir <missing folder>" and running it again?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: what GPU are you using?
[23:08] <TomatoKetchup> I'm starting to think Thunderbird is a pile of crap
[23:08] <MrGizmo757> i dont know about 2-level authentication.  i have tried other email accounts but not another client.
[23:08] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, if you don't know, I doubt you turned it on.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> TomatoKetchup: are there any bugs reported?
[23:08] <forbidden404> Xirrin: mkdir: cannot create directory `/sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch': No such file or directory
[23:08] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: I would try another client and see if it works. If it does then we know Thunderbird is the issue. If not then we can rule out the application and start working on the network/firewall settings.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: add the -p option to the mkdir command
[23:09] <TomatoKetchup> ActionParsnip, I don't know but I used it in Mint, it wouldn't get gmail settings automatically, and when configured manually it couldn't even find Gmail.  Reinstalled it.. wiped out settings... still the same.  Now in ubuntu I can't figure out why it makes my fonts when composing huge
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> TomatoKetchup: I'd check, and/or report your own
[23:09] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: You would know if you turned on 2-level authentication ;)
[23:09] <Xirrin> It turns everything in to a PITA
[23:10] <Xirrin> And its not an accidental move
[23:10] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: it is TigerPoint iNM10+AtomD510
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: can you give a PASTEBIN of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a       Thanks
[23:10] <MrGizmo757> ok.  i will try setting up Evolution and see what happens.   as far as network or firewall settings it owuld have to be somting inside of ubuntu becuase it was working before the updates. and my other machine on the same network is also working fine.
[23:11] <MrGizmo757> i try evolution and see what happens.
[23:11] <forbidden404> ActionParsnip: Operation not permitted
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: not sure what was going on but the -p option makes the parent folders if they don't exist
[23:12] <forbidden404> I did everything, I mounted debugfs or something like this, and nothing works... what makes me wonder is that I used vgaswitcheroo a long time ago and always workes
[23:12] <forbidden404> worked*
[23:13] <TomatoKetchup> ActionParsnip, looking now, thanks
[23:14] <zooz> hi people
[23:14] <spider> hi
[23:14] <spider> zooz
[23:15] <zooz> is there a way to disable "reconfigure" on every package install?
[23:15] <zooz> it annoys hell of a lot out of me
[23:15] <zooz> especially coming from RHEL/Fedora type of distros..
[23:15] <spider> sorry ,
[23:15] <spider> I am windows user ... but
[23:16] <zooz> the other I asked the other day, how do I disable services auto start after it is installed?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> zooz: can you give a package example, or is it all packages?
[23:16] <OerHeks> zooz what makes you think you can do without reconfigure?
[23:16] <zooz> OerHeks, I have been using other distributions fine without all this
[23:16] <psusi> zooz, by default, only the high priority questions are asked, which are rare
[23:16] <spider> can anyone here tell me where to find IRC channels for english learning ?
[23:16] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/NDQqBJHN
[23:16] <zooz> ActionParsnip, um, I am installing "asterisk" and it prompted me with a command line GUI for some information
[23:17] <zooz> so for example how would you do unattended install of some packages if it asks some questions interactively?
[23:17] <zooz> there must be a way to disable this
[23:17] <psusi> zooz, apparently the information is vital to get the package working and a suitable default could not be determined
[23:17] <anthyanthy> hi all ubuntu users
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: is it a laptop or a desktop?
[23:17] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: nettop
[23:18] <zooz> psusi, what if I, a user, want to decide which info is vital and when to enter it?
[23:18] <psusi> zooz, for unattended installs, you answer the questions in advance
[23:18] <psusi> zooz, you don't... if it is required or the package doesn't work, then it is required...
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: sounds like your monitr isn't reporting EDID as it should, you may need an xorg.conf to get it running. What make / model is the system please?
[23:19] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: samsung syncmaster 931c
[23:19] <zooz> psusi, then answer me this: I have a 100 ubuntu servers and I want to install a package called "foo"
[23:19] <psusi> zooz, though it is always possible that whoever packaged the program marked the question as required when it really could have a sensible default
[23:19] <zooz> which requires some info during the install
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: of the system please
[23:20] <zooz> psusi, so according to you, I have to go through all of the 100 servers and manually answer all those stupid questions?
[23:20] <zooz> that's really broken by design then
[23:20] <wifioregon> HI, how do I delete the guest account?
[23:20] <psusi> zooz, there was a way to specify the answer in advance when you go to install, but yea.... and it's only broken if the answer isn't *really* required for the package to work, which would mean whoever packaged the program messed up
[23:20] <siganderson> where does ubuntu take the keymap when in virtual terminal?
[23:21] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: it is Pegatron Walle L6 PV D-SUB
[23:21] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, any luck?
[23:21] <MrGizmo757> No luck.
[23:22] <MrGizmo757> i tried it under the live CD before updates and it works there.  but  on my fully updated system it dosent work.
[23:22] <MrGizmo757> i cant figure out why
[23:23] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: does system name make sense?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: this may help http://allurgroceries.com/n10/xorg.conf.intel    you can change the res as you wish. You didn't have to become root, the users can run the other commands and the sudo for lshw will give the access it needs
[23:24] <Costin> hey, we need help testing a phone number:<PHONE_NUMBER>, access code is 492-302-232# -- can you guys call in?  it's for testing a conference calling platform.
[23:24] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, weird, so thunderbird can't see your connection at all?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Costin: This is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu support only.
[23:25] <OerHeks> Costin wrong channel
[23:25] <zooz> psusi, thanks for the information, that helped me understand the philosophy of debian and/or ubuntu
[23:25] <MrGizmo757> no it dosent seem to be able to connect
[23:25] <zooz> psusi, I have been using RHEL/CentOS/Fedora for many many years and never experienced that kind of nonsense
[23:25] <Costin> sorry!
[23:26] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: so i don't need to edit anything? and i just enter a command?
[23:26] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, what's the exact error you're getting?
[23:26] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: can you give an example of resolution change command?
[23:26] <daj5704> hey. I got ubuntu 12.04 and im trying to install it on my 250gb external hard drive but how big do i make the partitions
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste in that text, it may help. Your monitor isn't playing right so you need to TELL your OS what it can do. Good monitors report what they can do
[23:27] <Mike9863> How can I set a window to minimize by scrolling on its title bar?
[23:27] <MrGizmo757> when i enter my credentials in  it starts its auto configuration then it says  unable to find settings for this account.      this happens under both gmail and hotmail.       so i try to set it up manually.  when i do that it give me an incorrect password error. wich is false. becuase it works on my other machine just fine.
[23:27] <ruli> daj5704: one big one
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: 10Gb Ext4 for /, 2xRAM amount for swap (I assume less than 2Gb RAM) and the rest Ext4 for /home     the default install option will setup the partitions for you and willbe fine but if you want to get fancy you can do it that way
[23:27] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757,  this is the exact problem I had on Mint
[23:28] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757,  I tried reinstalling, deleting the .thunderbird directory, nothing helped.
[23:28] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, going to google for a sec, see what I can find.
[23:28] <daj5704> ruli don't i need different partitions for the swap, boot, root and home
[23:28] <MrGizmo757> ok. i been on google alredy i didnt have much luck
[23:29] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: i don't have such file
[23:29] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: ohh
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: you can have one big partition for everything if you want, swap will be setup seperate by default
[23:29] <MrGizmo757> most of the stuff i found was to old to really apply
[23:29] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: nevermind, pasting
[23:29] <ruli> daj5704: nope thats a relic of the 1990's. ubuntu is (in theory) an upgradable OS so you wont have to care about separating /home and / either. you'll just end up wasting space in practice
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: yes, the OS doesn't ship with one but some hardware setups need the file still
[23:30] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, yeah.  when you manually configure, say.. Gmail... and hit get mail... what server does it say it's trying to connect to at the bottom?
[23:31] <ruli> daj5704: i would even make swap a file on / partition rather than separate partition for more flexibility and marginal performance cost but if you use LVM that's not really a problem eitehr afaik
[23:31] <daj5704> ActionParsnip So what do i make the one big partition like ext4 primary and where do i mount it
[23:31] <MrGizmo757> its not listing a server.     it says tying common server names   then   when it fails it brings up the manual configuration
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: that is the default option in the installer
[23:31] <MrGizmo757> incoming is set to IMAP  outgoing is set to SMTP
[23:31] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: i did that and i changed modes to 1280 x 1024
[23:32] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, no I meant if you do manual gmail config, then try to connect
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: is that...better?
[23:32] <daj5704> ActionParsnip: ok but where do i mount it
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: that is managed for you too
[23:32] <ruli> daj5704: the one thing you'll need to understand about ubuntu is the devs aren't brainiacs. the defaults aren't necessarily always the best option, either
[23:32] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, you might want to check the Tools > Error console... see if anything useful is in there?
[23:32] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: so now, now there is a chanse that i won't be able to run X, well i guess i can always remove this file, now i guess i need to reboot?
[23:33] <MrGizmo757> i had to go into advanced settings for that.   its  says IMAP.Gmail.com
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: possibly, you can boot to root recovery and delete the file
[23:33] <MrGizmo757> server name list  .gmail.com
[23:33] <daj5704> Ruli: what do you recommend. Which partitions do i need to make and how big should i make them
[23:33] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: ok i need to quit my irc, hope to see you soon ;)
[23:34] <MrGizmo757> ssl/tls   port 993
[23:35] <ruli> daj5704: one /, no swap. and as soon you enter the OS, go through the process of making a filesystem mounted swap. if you dont want to do that just use default recommeds for swap partition size and everything else for /
[23:37] <john3voltas> greets
[23:37] <daj5704> Ruli: im confused. Im in the installer and stuff and how big should the / be and why should i make a swap after its installed
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: you are clearly new to the OS, let the installer work it's magic. Ubuntu is made for Linux newcomers so the defaults should be ok
[23:37] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, your server name is .gmail.com?
[23:38] <MrGizmo757> thats what it says
[23:38] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, for incoming it should be imap.gmail.com
[23:38] <john3voltas> is there a boot parameter to tell the kernel where to find the filesystem.squashfs?
[23:38] <MrGizmo757> well it says server type  IMAP   then the line just below it says .gmail.com
[23:38] <daj5704> ActionParsnip: ive used it with wubi but i want it on my external now so i dont know what to do. So justvuse the freespace partition thats primary ext4 and no mount point
[23:38] <ruli> daj5704: because you won't be able to adjust swap size after you install or in the case of LVM at least not without the same risks and problems. if you put too little or too much swap and want to change it you either wont be able to or could be in for a headache. filesystem mounted swap you can easily change size and as often as you need
[23:38] <grimeton> seriously: the logon stuff is f*cked up
[23:38] <TomatoKetchup> yeah. fix that to imap.gmail.com
[23:39] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, port 993 as well.
[23:39] <MrGizmo757> yep
[23:39] <TomatoKetchup> I'd check your outgoing server, should be smtp.gmail.com
[23:39] <john3voltas> debian has live-media-path=
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: it will need a mount point, or the data won't be used.
[23:39] <grimeton> daj5704: you can create as much swapfiles or swap partitions as you want later
[23:39] <ruli> daj5704: windows uses filesystem mounted swap. and it's 2012
[23:40] <MrGizmo757> whats strange is all my info under the advnace settings has all been detected and entered from the setup proscess.   if thunderbird can see all that info it dosent make since that it dosent connect
[23:40] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, oh I know why, because then it defaults to trying to guess server config
[23:41] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, which is why .gmail.com is listed, should be imap.gmail.com
[23:41] <daj5704> Im using my phone for this IRC so its hard for me to see everything im getting told to do so what should i do in this installer with a 250gb external hd
[23:41] <grimeton> daj5704: external hd? like usb drive?
[23:41] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, which you can change, but I think it'll still have problems connecting, because I had the same issue in Mint and it wasn't the server config.  Something about thunderbird isn't allowing it to connect to anything.
[23:42] <psusi> daj5704, just pick the guided install option and let it figure it out for you
[23:42] <MrGizmo757> ok ill change it and see if it works.  outgoing should be SMTP.gmail.com  i would assume
[23:42] <MrGizmo757> ok we'll lets see what happens
[23:42] <ruli> does 12.04 default to LVM partitioning?
[23:42] <psusi> ruli, no
[23:42] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, yep
[23:42] <ruli> well there you go
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ruli: its available, just not default
[23:43] <psusi> ruli, you need the alternate installer for that
[23:43] <daj5704> No like an external sata harddrive. Wont the guided install overwrite my windows 7 instead of installing to my external
[23:43] <ruli> wow reallly? not even optional on the desktop installer?
[23:43] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, if that doesn't work  go to Tools > Error console, not sure if you'll find anything there but worth a shot
[23:43] <john3voltas> where can i see all kernel/boot parameters for ubuntu?
[23:43] <ring1> ActionParsnip, does the desktop version actually support lvm and cryptsetup these days?
[23:44] <psusi> ruli, most people have no reason to use it
[23:44] <escott> john3voltas, the ones you booted with or all possible kernel parameters?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> john3voltas: they are set in /etc/default/grub      the defaults are:  quiet splash
[23:44] <john3voltas> escott, all
[23:44] <MrGizmo757> ok its partially working.   its connected and its pulling my emails  but  i am gettign secure connection errors
[23:44] <escott> john3voltas, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[23:44] <john3voltas> but that's generic, isn't it?
[23:44] <MrGizmo757> and the Keyring  app keeps popping up
[23:45] <ruli> psusi: well that's one opinion, anyway. i thought it might at least be on dekstop installer. oh well
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: set a blank keyring password
[23:45] <john3voltas> escott, but that's generic, isn't it?
[23:45] <psusi> ring1, you can hack it to do lvm by installing the lvm package and manually setting it up then telling the installer which volume to use for which mountpoint, and then after it finishes installing you have to chroot into the installed system and install the lvm package there too
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> ruli: you could pull it in from the repo I guess
[23:45] <MrGizmo757> it dosent look like SSL   is working.
[23:46] <TomatoKetchup> hrm
[23:46] <MrGizmo757> its getting my emails now but  it keeps saying secure connection error.
[23:46] <escott> john3voltas, shouldnt be that different for ubuntu kernel, but it would be vanilla
[23:46] <ruli> ActionParsnip: yeah lot more work. if it's on the alternate at least that's something
[23:46] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, is authetication method set to Normal Password in the server settings
[23:46] <daj5704> My bad. I didnt know that the replace windows 7 with ubuntu option let me choose my external harddrive.
[23:47] <MrGizmo757> yes its set to normal.
[23:47] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, SSL/TLS as well.
[23:47] <TomatoKetchup> one sec
[23:47] <john3voltas> escott, i am after a kernel parameter that i can tell ubuntu where to find the filesystem.squashfs. debian has live-media-path
[23:47] <MrGizmo757> yes
[23:48] <escott> john3voltas, why not boot a livecd and check /proc/cmdline
[23:48] <john3voltas> escott, good thinking
[23:48] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, secure connection error for SMTP or IMAP, does it say?
[23:48] <ring1> psusi, alright, thanks for the info. i was just curious, since i believe it would be a good thing to have in the default installer, so more people would use it. i'm always using the alternate installer for nostalgic reasons ;)
[23:49] <john3voltas> thanks a bunch
[23:49] <MrGizmo757> this is the error
[23:49] <MrGizmo757> Secure connection failed
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>
[23:49] <FloodBot1> MrGizmo757: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <daj5704> I tried the guided install but it said that the / couldn't be mounted
[23:50] <psusi> ring1, it's a little overkill for most people, especially people dual booting with mac or windows which don't understand lvm
[23:50] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, ok let me see what else I can come up with
[23:50] <MrGizmo757> ok
[23:51] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: You can also check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /boot/grub/loopback.cfg on the iso.
[23:51] <ruli> daj5704: well that's ubuntu for you
[23:51] <MrGizmo757> could it be a certificate problem?
[23:52] <daj5704> ruli: haha yeah. it happened on linux mint 12 too
[23:52] <john3voltas> escott, doesn't /proc/cmdline show me just the ones that are currently "running"?
[23:52] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, honestly I'm not sure
[23:52] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, never had to mess with certificates to get gmail working.
[23:52] <escott> john3voltas, yes
[23:52] <john3voltas> then that's no good
[23:53] <escott> john3voltas, the ones your running kernel used
[23:53] <john3voltas> i already know the default ones
[23:53] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: What is your end goal? Why do you want to use a non default path to the squashfs?
[23:53] <W1N9Zr0> how do i repair the ubuntu /boot partition+grub so it supports mdadm raid and lvm? do i follow this http://blog.mydream.com.hk/howto/linux/howto-reinstall-grub-in-rescue-mode-while-using-lvm-mdadm example B, but substitute grub>... stuff with grub-install and specific options? which options?
[23:53] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, i want to boot ubuntu in a frugal way using grub4dos
[23:53] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: thank you, it worked and i believe that this system thinks that it is a notebook with an external video monitor so i had to disable "notebook" monitor :)
[23:53] <MrGizmo757> well its better then it was. atleast i can get to my emails now.  but a non secure connection error is definatly a concern
[23:54] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: It's much easier to simply leave the iso file as-is and loop boot it via grub2.
[23:54] <psusi> W1N9Zr0, you mount your root fs, and /boot if you have a separate /boot partition, then run grub-install --root-directory=/path/to/root/fs /dev/sda
[23:55] <john3voltas> i can't use grub2
[23:55] <W1N9Zr0> do i need to give grub-install specific options so it can boot with raid and lvm properly? my root is on an lvm volume that's on an mdadm raid array
[23:55] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: Why not?
[23:55] <ring1> psusi, sure, not many would use it. but it would be nice to have the partitioning gui being on par with the text partitioning
[23:55] <daj5704> Thanks for y'alls help though. I'll try to install it some other time
[23:55] <db> hi. when exactly are files in /etc/security/limits.d read? I mean, I made a change, what do I need to do to have it apply to a server process?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> W1N9Zr0: No, grub-install will detect that automatically and configure it properly for you.
[23:56] <OerHeks> W1N9Zr0, all i can think of, is your BIOS setup to boot from your LVM?
[23:56] <psusi> W1N9Zr0, no, it detects it automatically... it also doesn't need a separate /boot partition for lvm and/or raid
[23:56] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, simply because grub2 needs installation whereas grub4dos can be put to work without being installed into the mbr
[23:56] <W1N9Zr0> ok thanks
[23:56] <psusi> ring1, yea, unfortunately it's hard keeping the image size down to fit on a cd... would be nice to have on the dvd though
[23:57] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, i need it for my company laptop where i am forced to use windows and prohibited to install/run linux
[23:57] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: grub2 can also be loaded from Windows's bootloader, though I'll admit the documentation for doing so is poor.
[23:57] <OerHeks> W1N9Zr0, sorry, i misread you have a issue with it
[23:57] <psusi> OerHeks, bios boots from a disk.... it knows nothing about lvm
[23:57] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, for your outgoing server, is smtp.gmail.com set to STARTTLS, Normal Password, and port 587?
[23:57] <MrGizmo757> ok
[23:57] <MrGizmo757> its currently on ssl/tls
[23:57] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, for me and for this particular case, grub2 is a 'no go'
[23:58] <MrGizmo757> i change that and see
[23:58] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: In fact Wubi uses grub2, and it sounds like Wubi might be an ideal solution for you (which is not something I say often :)
[23:58] <TomatoKetchup> change that
[23:58] <john3voltas> Jordan_U,  i don't even know what a wubi is
[23:58] <psusi> Jordan_U, I could have sworn that wubi used grub4dos
[23:59] <Jordan_U> psusi: It used to, before Ubuntu switched to grub2.
[23:59] <tujohnubu> !classic
[23:59] <MrGizmo757> still getting the error
[23:59] <tujohnubu> !notunity
[23:59] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, yeah, well at least your smtp server is configured correctly now, lol  ... odd I really can't find much on this problem
[23:59] <ring1> psusi, i read in the future beginning with 12.10 there will be no image with cd size anymore. the image will grow up to 800 mb. the dvd and netinstall will of course stay


[02:49] <Ddorda> where is this channel logged?
[02:49] <bazhang> !logs
[02:49] <Ddorda> thank you
[16:00] <cjwatson> hi
[16:00] <liw> hi
[16:00] <mvo> hi
[16:00] <cjwatson> hmm, no robbie?
[16:00] <james_w> hi
[16:01] <robbiew> hello
[16:01] <robbiew> sorry...processing emails
[16:01] <robbiew> #startmeeting
[16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is robbiew.
[16:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:02]  * slangasek waves
[16:02] <evand1> hi
[16:02]  * robbiew assumes everyone is here...accept al-maisan who's on holiday
[16:03]  * mvo is here
[16:03] <robbiew> [TOPIC] 8.04.3
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  8.04.3
[16:03] <robbiew> the new, new release date is 07/16...right? :/
[16:04] <slangasek> yes
[16:05] <robbiew> slangasek: still no word from Desktop on bug 207072
[16:05] <slangasek> we have another kernel in -proposed now that wasn't expected; apparently a security upload had clobbered the previous one before we'd gotten it published to -updates
[16:05] <slangasek> :(
[16:05] <robbiew> double :(
[16:06] <slangasek> the kernel issue was a surprise, but shouldn't affect the timeline
[16:06] <robbiew> ok
[16:06] <cjwatson> do you need a d-i rebuild against the new kernel?
[16:07] <slangasek> cjwatson: I guess we should, to pick up the security fixes
[16:07] <mterry_> ahem, hi
[16:08] <cjwatson> slangasek: on its way
[16:08] <slangasek> thanks
[16:09] <robbiew> slangasek: should we just drop bug 207072, since I doubt we can get a tested fix in anytime soon
[16:09] <slangasek> robbiew: we /shouldn't/ drop it, given the consequences, but I don't see that we really have a choice at this point
[16:10] <robbiew> yeah
[16:10] <slangasek> if we are letting it slip 8.04.3, we at least need to have a game plan for getting it fixed soon after
[16:11] <cjwatson> how far has this one been escalated so far?
[16:11] <cjwatson> sorry, that's sort of code for "has somebody cleared slipping this bug with mdz?"
[16:11] <robbiew> heh
[16:11]  * robbiew notified via email...but he's catching up on that
[16:11] <robbiew> I have a call with him today
[16:11] <robbiew> and it will be on the agenda
[16:11] <robbiew> ;)
[16:12] <robbiew> slangasek: what was the other bug of concern?
[16:13]  * robbiew cannot recall
[16:13] <slangasek> robbiew: bug #236640
[16:13] <slangasek> I've uploaded a fix to karmic now, and will upload a hardy SRU today to address the remaining issues that Etienne has highlighted - and will prod for a quick testing turnaround
[16:13] <robbiew> ok, thanks
[16:14] <robbiew> ok..moving on
[16:15] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Karmic Alpha 3 Deliverables
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Karmic Alpha 3 Deliverables
[16:15] <robbiew> evand1: usb-creator for windows....still alpha 3, or should be push back?
[16:16] <evand1> I think Alpha 3 is still reasonable
[16:16] <robbiew> cool
[16:17] <robbiew> Keybuk: how's the i586 work progressing?  is that still on for alpha 3?
[16:17] <cjwatson> I haven't heard any progress updates on the rebuild since around the last call I had with IS; I have another one of those tomorrow and will bring it up
[16:18] <cjwatson> it's supposed to be done by now
[16:18] <Keybuk> robbiew: I've not heard any progress either
[16:18] <robbiew> hmm...okay
[16:18] <robbiew> will mark it "yellow" until I hear back on it
[16:19] <robbiew> mterry: the rsyslogd stuff is done, right?
[16:19] <mterry_> rsyslog is just waiting on MIR work, and then a seed change.  The actual code changes needed have been pushed.  Should be able to make it in time, pending MIR
[16:20] <cjwatson> have you been in touch with any of the MIR reviewers directly?
[16:20] <cjwatson> I think it'd be best to do that, to move things along
[16:20] <mterry_> kees assigned both MIR bugs to himself
[16:20] <mterry_> But I can poke him
[16:21] <mterry_> Oh, I should say pitti assigned them to kees.  :)
[16:22] <robbiew> heh...that does make a difference
[16:22] <robbiew> thanks
[16:22] <robbiew> mvo: AptURL policy...no actual code, right?
[16:22] <mvo> robbiew: some code in software-properties, but it should have all landed now
[16:23] <robbiew> ah...ok, great
[16:23]  * mvo needs to review the spec again to be sure
[16:23] <robbiew> heh
[16:23] <mvo> python-robustness may get delayed for alpha4
[16:23] <mvo> I need some input from doko for it
[16:24] <mvo> landscape should be ok from my side now too, its up to the landscape guys to test/use it now :)
[16:24] <robbiew> okay
[16:24] <robbiew> thanks
[16:25] <doko> mvo: I know ...
[16:25] <mvo> doko: no problem
[16:25] <robbiew> cjwatson: the server installer improvements is on track, correct?
[16:26] <robbiew> that was switched from Alpha 4 to 3...I think
[16:26] <cjwatson> online help is done modulo actual help text for things (we'll at least have extended partitioning help for alpha 3)
[16:26] <cjwatson> I'm in progress on the LVM/RAID stuff; a few roadblocks but I believe it's still basically on track
[16:27] <robbiew> cool...thnx
[16:28] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Sponsorship Queue
[16:28] <MootBot> New Topic:  Sponsorship Queue
[16:29]  * mvo did a bad job here last week and will make up for it this week
[16:29] <robbiew> eh..could be worse
[16:29] <robbiew> ;)
[16:30] <robbiew> as a team...we do okay
[16:30] <robbiew> nowhere near the machine-like progress of some of the Desktop team folks
[16:31] <robbiew> but...i think that's also related to what they work on
[16:31] <robbiew> cool...moving on
[16:31] <robbiew> [TOPIC] Good News
[16:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  Good News
[16:31]  * robbiew is running Karmic 64bit with grub2 and ext4
[16:31] <mterry_> heh
[16:31] <robbiew> and I'm still up :P
[16:32]  * robbiew also got his office in somewhat workable conditions...no more working from the dining room table
[16:32]  * slangasek is running with kms on 2.6.31 and the worst of the damage is that my monitor is stretching my eyeballs
[16:33] <robbiew> lol
[16:34] <robbiew> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:34] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[16:35] <robbiew> 5....
[16:35] <robbiew> 4....
[16:35]  * ScottK says thanks for the t-shirt
[16:35] <robbiew> heh
[16:35] <robbiew> np
[16:35] <robbiew> ;)
[16:35] <james_w> the new kernel in karmic is apparently better under I/O load
[16:35] <james_w> no more firefox freezes when building hopefully
[16:35]  * robbiew just realized that mterry needs a Foundations Team shirt
[16:35] <mterry_> Yes!
[16:36] <Keybuk> and some whiskey
[16:36] <robbiew> lol
[16:36] <mterry_> Gotta collect 'em all.  OEM and Foundations down...
[16:36] <robbiew> ours is WAY better ;)
[16:36]  * ScottK wants in on the whiskey ration
[16:36]  * mterry_ looks sadly at my empty whiskey bottle
[16:37] <robbiew> ok...the meeting has digressed
[16:37] <robbiew> #endmeeting
[16:37] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:37.
[16:37] <robbiew> lol
[16:37] <robbiew> thanks all
[16:37] <evand1> thanks
[16:37] <liw> thanks
[16:37] <mvo> thanks
[16:37] <doko> bye
[16:37] <ScottK> mvo: How's it looking for getting to the backports spec?
[16:37] <slangasek> thanks, all
[16:38] <mvo> ScottK: no progress on this, sorry
[16:39] <ScottK> mvo: OK.  Please just keep it in mind for your 'spare' time.
[17:58] <heno> hey everyone
[17:58] <bdmurray> hello
[17:59] <heno> fader: are you guys participating in the meeting or sprinting?
[18:02] <heno> various people are away today, at GCDS or sprinting
[18:02] <heno> but we can start
[18:02] <heno> #startmeeting
[18:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:02. The chair is heno.
[18:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[18:03] <heno> agenda as always: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[18:03] <heno> bdmurray: I added some items for you just now ;)
[18:03] <heno> pedro is not here, anyone want to comment on bug days?
[18:04] <heno> [TOPIC] UbuntuBugDay highlights -- ?
[18:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  UbuntuBugDay highlights -- ?
[18:05] <ogasawara> I have some highlights from yesterday's kernel bug day
[18:05] <heno> ok go!
[18:05] <ogasawara> overall stats can be seen at http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/kernel-bugday/20090707.html
[18:06] <ogasawara> I'd again like to thank Andreas for helping out as well as a newcomer JFo
[18:07] <bdmurray> ogasawara: what do the up and down arrows mean?
[18:07] <ogasawara> bdmurray: deltas for rate of change
[18:07] <heno> it would be nice to have a measure of 'total bugs touched' as well
[18:08] <ogasawara> bdmurray: it was hard to see what bugs were getting touched so that tries to give a rough idea
[18:08] <heno> might not be 100% accurate of course
[18:09] <heno> thanks ogasawara
[18:09] <heno> [TOPIC] New bug control members! -- bdmurray
[18:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  New bug control members! -- bdmurray
[18:09] <heno> any this week?
[18:09] <bdmurray> No, we haven't seen any applications in a bit.
[18:10] <heno> hm, ok. summer effect I guess
[18:10] <heno> [TOPIC] Bug Squad meeting -- bdmurray
[18:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Bug Squad meeting -- bdmurray
[18:10] <heno> anything to note for the wider QA meeting?
[18:10] <bdmurray> yesterday day we had the bug squad meeting and discussed preparing for the global jam with some triaging classes in #ubuntu-classroom
[18:11] <bdmurray> there was also some interest in the progress on the mentoring program
[18:11] <bdmurray> and some further discussion on how to go about increasing apport coverage
[18:12] <bdmurray> which is great!
[18:12] <heno> \o/
[18:12] <heno> bdmurray: are you doing a class on writing hooks at dev week?
[18:13] <heno> (or was that something else?)
[18:13] <bdmurray> Yes, I'll add myself to the schedule for that
[18:13] <heno> ok
[18:14] <heno> I've also spoken with Bjorn on the LP bugs team about the adoption spec
[18:14] <heno> they had some test failures from the new code but are working on that now
[18:14] <heno> he says we might see it this week
[18:15] <heno> (but no promises)
[18:15] <heno> [TOPIC] SRU Verifications -- sbeattie
[18:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  SRU Verifications -- sbeattie
[18:16] <sbeattie> Thanks to Alex Magaz, Damian Frick, Stu Redman, Miklos Juhasz, David M. Lee, Nizar Kerkeni, Michael B. Trausch, Jaume Sala, and bluishgreen for providing feeding on SRUs this week.
[18:16] <sbeattie> SRUs for 8.04.3 continue along.
[18:16] <heno> care and feeding of SRUs?
[18:16] <sbeattie> heno: ?
[18:16] <sbeattie> oh, sorry, feedback
[18:16] <bdmurray> heh
[18:17] <heno> right :)
[18:17] <heno> which brings us to ...
[18:17] <heno> [TOPIC] 8.04.3 status check -- heno
[18:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  8.04.3 status check -- heno
[18:18] <heno> what's the latest story on kernels and CD spins?
[18:18] <heno> sbeattie: what was decided yesterday?
[18:19] <sbeattie> new proposed kernels got accepted that include the last security update; but I don't think the corresponding debian-installer upload happened until this morning.
[18:20] <sbeattie> so isos with the new kernels need to be spun.
[18:20] <fader> sbeattie: 20090708.1 images are being tested in the certification environment at this very moment
[18:20] <sbeattie> fader: awesome!
[18:20] <fader> sbeattie: Do these contain the latest kernel?
[18:20] <sbeattie> I haven't looked yet.
[18:20] <fader> (sorry for showing up late; I'm sprinting at the moment)
[18:21] <fader> Okay, if new images show up we'll test those as well :)
[18:21] <heno> fader: that's good news but also a good question!
[18:21] <heno> cjwatson, slangasek: do you know?
[18:21] <sbeattie> fader: how long roughly is it taking for a round of automated testing to go through?
[18:22] <heno> do the latest CDs have the new kernel and installer?
[18:22] <fader> sbeattie: It takes around 30-45 minutes to make a full test run including reboots, installs, testing, etc.  Unfortunately, if a previous install failed there is a 2 hour timeout before the next image will be tested
[18:23] <fader> (This is a known issue and cr3 is planning to address this very soon)
[18:23] <sbeattie> fader: are we seeing any failures on 8.04.3?
[18:23] <heno> fader: most 8.04.3 runs I've seen the past few days have had 0 test results
[18:24] <fader> sbeattie: So far no.  Though I can't tell yet if there are machines that are failing on the install... I need to wait for all the results to come in to be able to see that
[18:24] <heno> is there a known (and fixed) issue?
[18:24] <fader> But everything that has returned results so far has passed
[18:25] <heno> ok, that's encouraging
[18:25] <fader> heno: There were two separate issues hitting us.  One was an issue where the PXE install image did not have the same kernel version as the install environment, which caused it to fail to install.
[18:26] <fader> heno: The other issue was that the certification server had a memory leak that caused it to miss its own check for new CD images and it removed the old one, leaving us with no image to install to test.
[18:26] <fader> Both of these have been addressed now, and test results are trickling in.
[18:26] <sbeattie> heh, oops.
[18:26] <sbeattie> fader: great, thanks!
[18:27] <heno> davmor2: are you around to help with some install testing as well?
[18:27] <fader> sbeattie: No worries :)  (The HTML report on the test results is still pending; sorry for the delay, but there were Real Issues as outlined above.)
[18:27] <heno> It's not listed on the tracker though
[18:28] <sbeattie> heno: right, I poked slangasek just before the meeting about when he wanted to start iso testing, but haven't heard back.
[18:29] <heno> ok, I guess we'll see over the next few hours
[18:29] <heno> any other business?
[18:30] <heno> thanks everyone!
[18:30] <heno> #endmeeting
[18:30] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:30.
[18:30] <sbeattie> thanks!
[18:30] <schwuk> thanks heno
[18:45] <slangasek> fader: new ISOs will have to be rolled today/tomorrow; I didn't remember to binary NEW the kernel upload until this morning, so it'll be a few hours before we have a d-i build matching the new kernel
[18:46] <fader> slangasek: Thanks for the info.  I'll keep an eye out for it and make sure we get some results for that image
[20:11] <boredandblogging> Joeb454: ping
[20:11] <boredandblogging> oops, wrong window