[12:09] <Cimi> kwwii, your dark theme looks quite good, compliments :)
[12:21] <kwwii> Cimi: thanks :-)
[12:21] <kwwii> we still have quite a ways to go, but it is a good start
[12:21] <Cimi> I mean the colors
[12:22] <Cimi> I have few doubts about the base
[12:22] <Cimi> anf text
[12:22] <Cimi> *and
[12:22] <Cimi> maybe I will change text[normal] to something more brownish
[12:23] <kwwii> I'll be putting a newer verison in pretty soon
[12:24] <Cimi> please make a .tar so non-ubuntu users (eheheh) can try it too
[12:26] <kwwii> hehe, I'll do that
[12:28] <_nilux_> hi there!
[12:29] <kwwii> hi
[12:30] <Cimi> kwwii, which options did you use?
[12:32] <_nilux_> i came across a theme in the alternate ideas (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid), and wanted to know about it's feasibility with the current gnome version
[12:37] <kwwii> Cimi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23936/
[12:38] <kwwii> _nilux_: if someone would write a gtk theme and a metacity theme it should probably work
[12:39] <kwwii> some of the glow around windows and such isn't easily possible but most of it should be
[12:39] <Cimi> kwwii, I'd like to remember you that you can have different options between different widgets
[12:39] <_nilux_> thanks kwwii!
[12:40] <kwwii> _nilux_: no problem, glad to be of help
[12:40] <kwwii> Cimi: yeah, I realize that but haven't done too much testing with that yet
[14:42] <savvas> http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/6/30/f_ubuntuibex0m_0114b53.png&srv=img26 <- if only i had that ibex like that in svg.. with a usable license :\
[14:47] <kwwii> savvas: there are plenty of ibex pics available from which you can create vectors
[14:48] <savvas> that one was my favourite
[14:48] <savvas> http://www.rowlandward.com/imageGallery/Penny/NUBIAN IBEX.jpg
[14:48] <savvas> merged it up from this one, could be a great base
[14:49] <savvas> too bad it's copyrighted
[14:54] <kwwii> I have been working on taking several pics (all of nubian ibex's funny enough) to create one good vector version
[14:55] <savvas> nice :)
[14:55] <savvas> let me know for a sneak peek :P
[14:59] <kwwii> I should have something done this week, I'll post it
[15:05] <qu1dpr0> I posted my vector ibex in the hardy style at the wiki under AbstractIbex. Any comments would be welcome.
[15:11] <qu1dpr0> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/AbstractIbex
[15:20] <kwwii> qu1dpr0: cool, I'll check that out later
[16:13] <psyke83> hi
[16:13] <psyke83> kwwii: I replied to your mail
[19:21] <kwwii> psyke83: cool, my wife's grandfather just passed away, can't really talk now...bbl
[19:25] <qu1dpr0> does bot ubuntulog keep a log of this chatroom, and if so, is it avail to be looked at by anyone?
[19:26] <psyke83> kwwii, damn, sorry to hear that. Take care, man
[19:30] <qu1dpr0> kwwii, my apologies as well, I didn't notice the prev message and do not mean to appear insensitive. I hope things go as well as they can under the circumstances.
[19:33] <psyke83> qu1dpr0: here you go: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[19:35] <qu1dpr0> ah, thank you psyke83
[23:24] <dashua> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8892467@N08/2625525357/sizes/o/
[23:24] <dashua> Pretty nice.
[23:58] <sonink> hello
[23:58] <sonink> i'm looking for help with usplash


[06:23] <xannen> Hi sagaci!
[06:23] <sagaci> ah so close, getting an interface with the 312U AirCard (this is still the old one) on the latest daily
[06:24] <xannen> Is the 312U 4G or 3G?
[06:24] <sagaci> 3G
[06:24] <sagaci> the 320U won't be in my hands til next week
[06:24] <sagaci> 320U being 4G
[06:24] <xannen> Okay.  :D  Is it so cloudy, in my area.
[06:25] <xannen> It is*
[06:25] <xannen> So how's your day sagaci?
[06:28] <sagaci> reinstalling on my laptop, other than that.. nothing out of the ordinar
[06:28] <sagaci> ry
[06:31] <xannen> Yay for nothing out of the ordinary!  :D
[07:08] <sagaci> I'm not sure if it's common knowledge, but the 312U works with a couple of config tweaks on 11.10
[07:08] <sagaci> which is awesome
[07:08] <sagaci> I'll have to write some docs about it
[07:10] <head_victim> sagaci: I think most devices work alright these days from the little look around I had.
[07:10] <head_victim> The sierra ones in particular seem well supported.
[07:11] <sagaci> yeah, the drivers are gpl
[07:11] <sagaci> moreso just the out-of-date apn settings in networkmanager
[07:12] <head_victim> Bug report!
[07:55] <head_victim> Anyone ever run a computer install of a USB drive (as the only hard drive in the computer)?
[08:13] <elky> head_victim, not long term. what's your actual q?
[08:15] <head_victim> Just seeing if it's feasible, most of the stuff online I'm finding is all about liveUSB stuff which I don't want.
[08:16] <head_victim> I found something about moving tmp to ram and stuff like that
[08:16] <elky> when you make the drive, you slide the bar that asks about persistant storage from 0 to what you need.
[08:17] <head_victim> Yeah but doing it that way only gives 4gb from my experience
[08:17] <head_victim> I was hoping to use a 16gb stick and just install to it.
[08:17] <elky> yes, because it limits you to the FAT filesystem limits
[08:18] <elky> and it's more like 2gb
[08:19] <head_victim> Basically I'm trying to repurpose a work laptop so I can use it as a personal one but not have to run windows XP.
[08:24] <elky> head_victim, has the 'warranty dies if you break this sticker' sticker been broken yet?
[08:24] <head_victim> Nope :/
[08:24] <elky> :(
[08:25] <elky> is the laptop still in warranty?
[08:25] <head_victim> I will still need it for work as well but I want to be able to use it for other things.
[08:25] <elky> ah ok, then swapping out the hdd is probably not the way to go
[08:25] <elky> i really dunno otherwise. you can't break the limitations by sheer want unfortunately
[08:26] <head_victim> I'm "filling in" (read: pretty much permanent) in a role for work where I get a laptop and mobile (the mobile has no data though) so I'm just trying to utilise them to the best of my ability ;)
[08:26] <head_victim> My plan as it stands is to just install it to the USB as if it were just another hard drive and see how it copes.
[15:33] <gggs> wow, is it possible for an entire ext3 volume to lose it's structure data? It wouldn't mount, I ran a fsck & re-mounted, there's nothing left on it apart from lost+found/#0 to #99993
[15:38] <gggs> it's all a little surreal at the moment, a 2GB truecrypt volume wiped out, the most important 2GB on my entire hdd, and last backup is a month old
[23:13] <Fudge> go digging for your old partition tables?
[23:22] <gggs> still trying, but I'm running out of options
[23:26] <gggs> I've had 2 hours sleep, been trying a few things: fsck leaves the volume empty, there's no backup superblocks, using e2image on an older volume backup doesn't work
[23:40] <gggs> Seems both encrypted volumes (important data) have somehow been rendered completely unreadable without warning. I noticed something was up when Claws-mail started acting strange


[17:32] <DammitJim> can one buy Ubuntu support?
[19:33] <zoopster> DammitJim: yes
[19:46] <DammitJim> is that through canonical?


[00:55] <celio> oi
[05:00] <lj> hi
[05:41] <y0shiness> I need a teeny bit of help. My (fresh) installation of Ubuntu MATE 17.10 is stuck in what seems to be an infinite loop.
[05:43] <y0shiness> It's stuck in an infinite loop of booting up, that is.
[06:25] <alkisg> y0shiness: write the error messages or paste a screenshot. Tell more details. How/when did it happen.
[13:02] <ayhan> hi there
[14:47] <onio> has anybody experience issue with "System>>Administration/User and Group" feature. no matter what I do I can't seem to get ubuntu mate 16.04 to ask for password on login. I am thinking of have to re-install the Ubuntu which I think is an overkill.
[14:50] <onio> I made a change to my Ubuntu 16.04 mate to allow auto login as a work around of me being able to use a Logictech wireless keyboard for login
[14:51] <onio> is my  post visible on this channel?
[14:51] <diogenes_> onio, what is the dm for mate?
[14:51] <nemo> onio: check /etc/groups
[14:51] <onio> ahh
[14:52] <nemo> onio: I think Ubuntu calls the group nopasswdlogin
[14:52] <nemo> maybe the MATE dialog is broken due to anticipating some other method?
[14:52] <onio> I think I am using lightdm
[14:53] <nemo> I mean, they've used that for like a decade, why would they change it now
[14:53] <onio> I tried removing myself fro the nopasswdlogin but that did not help
[14:53] <diogenes_> onio, then look for: find / -type f 2>/dev/null | grep "lightdm.conf"
[14:54] <diogenes_> and there should be the option: ask for password or something like that
[14:54] <nemo> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/159083/how-can-i-disable-lightdm-auto-login-from-the-command-line-when-isnt-possible-t
[14:54] <onio> I don't have that lightdm.conf file.
[14:54]  * diogenes_ has to go
[14:55] <nemo> onio: you don't have /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ?
[14:55] <onio> I have the following lightdm.conf.d            lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d
[14:55] <onio> lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf  users.conf
[14:55] <nemo> ah
[14:55] <nemo> they reorganised eh
[14:55] <nemo> users.conf sounds promising...
[14:56] <onio> nothing in there
[14:56] <nemo> onio: I gotta say tho, personally my exp w/ gentoo halts w/ 14.04 LTS - from now on I'm going to be on Devuan.  But I'm still hanging out here since I haven't gotten everything off 14.04 LTS yet ☺
[14:56] <onio> that relates to log in
[14:56] <onio> 1 [UserList]
[14:56] <onio>  12 minimum-uid=500
[14:56] <onio>  13 hidden-users=nobody nobody4 noaccess
[14:56] <onio>  14 hidden-shells=/bin/false /usr/sbin/nologin
[14:56] <nemo> onio: how bout grep autologin in all the files ?
[14:57] <nemo> https://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login-in-lightdm
[14:57] <onio> okay I would try that nemo
[14:57] <nemo> hm.
[14:57] <nemo> skimming this askubuntu, so far the answers are nopasswdlogin group and the autologin lightdm conf param
[14:57] <nemo> you sure you are on lightdm?
[14:58] <nemo> looks like gdm has an autologin config too
[14:58] <nemo> wonder if lightdm reads gdm for backwards compatibility
[14:58] <onio> doing a search
[14:58] <nemo> ooooh /etc/gshadow
[14:58] <nemo> didn't know group had a shadow!  why???
[14:58] <nemo> Run sudo grep nopasswd /etc/*
[14:58] <nemo> This will display at least 2 lines:
[14:58] <nemo> /etc/group:nopasswdlogin:x:112:`<login name>`
[14:58] <nemo> /etc/gshadow:nopasswdlogin:!::`<login name>`
[14:58] <nemo> WTF. that's nutty
[14:59]  * nemo searches for info on *that*
[14:59] <onio> I didn't think this should be as complicated as it is
[14:59]  * nemo agrees
[14:59] <nemo> https://linux.die.net/man/5/gshadow
[15:00] <onio> search is on : sudo find / -type f -exec grep -H 'autologin' {} \;
[15:00] <nemo> oh interesting
[15:00] <nemo> I had no idea one could create groups with passwords. TIL
[15:00] <nemo> welp. gshadow makes sense then ☺
[15:00] <nemo> onio: ok. in that case. did you check gshadow for nopasswdlogin too ☺
[15:02] <onio> /etc/gshadow = > nopasswdlogin:!::
[15:02] <nemo> oh well
[15:03] <onio> so I remove this?
[15:03] <nemo> no
[15:03] <onio> okay
[15:03] <nemo> you're not a member of nopasswdlogin in /etc/groups or gshadow so np
[15:03] <onio> fair enough
[15:04] <nemo> that find could take a long time to run
[15:04] <nemo> onio: especially since you're calling -exec - so far less efficient than recursive grep ☺
[15:04] <nemo> maybe at least restrict it to /etc
[15:04] <onio> I thought it was more efficient
[15:05] <onio> okay
[15:05] <onio> nothing found in /etc
[15:05] <nemo> onio: well. every invocation of -exec is a new subshell
[15:06] <onio> ah
[15:06] <onio> I would remember that
[15:08] <nemo> find / -type f -iname "*lightdm*"  -exec grep -qi autologin "{}" \; -print 2>/dev/null     might be few enough files to not take a ridiculously long time.
[15:08] <nemo> I wonder about that gdm tho
[15:08] <nemo> onio: how long ago did you enable autologin?
[15:09] <onio> I think I am have been on this off/on for the last 3 days. This is the first time I am able get help from an IRC channel
[15:12] <alkisg> onio: did you find the solution? it's in lightdm.conf
[15:12] <onio> yes
[15:12] <onio> I was find a way of showing result
[15:12] <onio> I can't remember the paste url
[15:12] <alkisg> paste.ubuntu.com
[15:12] <nemo> there are tons of pastebins out there
[15:13] <alkisg> or: command | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:13] <nemo> onio: hm. odd. I've been using IRC for support pretty successfully for like a couple of decades
[15:13] <onio> thanks alkisg
[15:13] <onio> one second nemo
[15:13] <alkisg> # grep -r autologin /etc/lightdm/
[15:13] <alkisg> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf:autologin-guest=false
[15:13] <alkisg> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf:autologin-user=administrator
[15:13] <alkisg> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf:autologin-user-timeout=0
[15:14] <alkisg> Those are the lines where autologin is set
[15:14] <onio> /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightdm.conffiles
[15:14] <onio> /var/lib/dpkg/info/lightdm.list
[15:14] <onio> /var/lib/dpkg/info/liblightdm-gobject-1-0:amd64.symbols
[15:14] <onio> /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter
[15:14] <onio> /usr/sbin/lightdm
[15:14] <onio> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblightdm-gobject-1.so.0.0.0
[15:14] <onio> /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/60-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[15:14] <alkisg> So you can just remove that file in order to disable autologin
[15:21] <nemo> alkisg: that sounds a little aggressive ☺
[15:21] <alkisg> nemo: nah, that's the purpose of that file, it doesn't exist if you don't select autologin
[15:22] <alkisg> So ubiquity creates it just for that
[15:22] <nemo> lightdm.conf? O_o
[15:22] <nemo> surely it configures other things too
[15:22] <alkisg> Nope
[15:22] <alkisg> There's a lightdm.d directory for that
[15:22] <nemo> alkisg: well anyway. he didn't have it
[15:22] <alkisg> Although the main configuration is in /usr, not in etc
[15:22] <nemo> nor did he have the nopasswdlogin group
[15:22] <alkisg> Really? That's how ubuntu setup does it
[15:23] <nemo> alkisg: yeah. thought that was odd. that's why I asked him if he was sure he was using lightdm
[15:23] <alkisg> nopasswdlogin group isn't used
[15:23] <nemo> alkisg: eh. could be configured to be used.
[15:23] <nemo> ubuntu used to use it
[15:23] <nemo> still get people reporting they have it set
[15:24] <alkisg> I mean, in the current 16.04.3 lts version
[15:24] <nemo> we lost onio anyway.  apparently he ignored pastebin suggestions
[15:25] <nemo> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_autologin  arch uses it still, it seems
[16:56] <onio> Hi nemo are you still in the room. Sorry I was banned from the chat room because of the paste I did :)
[16:57] <alkisg> onio: what's the output of this command? grep -ri autologin /etc/lightdm* | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:57] <alkisg> (copy paste the command, then copy/paste the output here)
[16:59] <onio> alkisg: I found a filename "60-lightdm-gtk-greeters.conf" that had autolog=myusername
[16:59] <onio> I removed that and now I get the login prompt
[16:59] <alkisg> Cool
[17:00] <onio> I didn't realise that people get banned from these IRC channels
[17:00] <alkisg> Only for flooding, because they think you're a bot
[17:00] <onio> I pasted the result of my "find" command and suddenly I was automatically logged out
[17:00] <alkisg> It's an automatic check
[17:01] <onio> I have infrequently used these channel so I was quite surprised. Learning every day
[17:02] <onio> I am glad that it is sorted because I was going to re-install ubuntu as it was taking too long
[17:03] <nemo> onio: it's funny because you'd asked about pastebins
[17:03] <nemo> alkisg gave 2 options ☺
[17:04] <onio> was it the use of the word that got me banned or because I did a paste that had multiple lines?
[17:04] <alkisg> pasting more than 3-4 lines
[17:04] <alkisg> that gets you banned for a while
[17:04] <onio> ah
[17:05] <onio> thanks its good to know for future reference
[17:07] <onio> The last time I was on one these channel I can't remember which one. But I recall someone saying that use pastebin is frown upon in the irc channels so I kind of avoided them. Is this correct or did the person wrongly advised me
[17:07] <nemo> O_o
[17:07] <nemo> no. pastebins are strongly encouraged
[17:07] <nemo> unless the text is short of course
[17:07] <onio> fair enough
[17:07] <nemo>  /msg is frowned on - some people like to /msg others privately and that defeats purpose of support channel
[17:08] <ayhan> hey does anyone use airvpn ?
[17:08] <onio> okay copied that
[17:08] <nemo> ayhan: can't be bothered personally.  sshuttle is enough for my simple needs
[17:08] <ayhan> any idea how to prevent dns leaks?
[17:09] <ayhan> what is sshuttle?
[17:10] <ayhan> aaaaahh a vpn over ssh
[17:10] <ayhan> i see
[17:10] <nemo> yep. convenient, simple
[17:10] <nemo> pretty good performance
[17:11] <ayhan> safe?
[17:11] <nemo> ayhan: safe in terms of...
[17:12] <ayhan> torrenting
[17:12] <nemo> oh. dunno
[17:12] <nemo> don't use it for that
[17:12] <nemo> I imagine one could route everything through it, why not
[17:12] <nemo> ayhan: it's just a simple overlay of linux firewall rules
[17:13] <nemo> and it supports DNS lookups
[17:13] <ayhan> i will try it out. But i would like to use my vpn.....
[17:13] <nemo> up to you
[22:17] <micka_> Hi ,-
[22:20] <micka_> there is someone here? ^^