[08:29] <Flannel> silver_swords, ronald1: It'll be released at some point within the next 27 hours.  Please join #ubuntu-release-party to keep track.
[08:29] <DaveWM> yeah
[08:30] <Flannel> zipper: Please be polite.
[08:30] <DaveWM> what's the one i'm thinking...
[08:30] <DaveWM> gimme a sec
[08:30] <silver_swords> thnx
[08:30] <zipper> Flannel, I am being polite. I'm just stating the obvious
[08:30] <DaveWM> kind of makes me think of gOS
[08:30] <Flannel> zipper: Alright, lets try this then: Don't be a dick.
[08:30] <DaveWM> which i havent tried either
[08:31] <DaveWM> browser based OS is what it looks like from description
[08:31] <steveccc> zipper: i didnt see a problem in your comment
[08:32] <ronald1> @Flannel Thanks! @zipper it would me a good one to set the info from Flannel in the topic!
[08:33] <g4lt-lappy> Flannel, taht's nice advice, when were you planning on following it yourself?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> haha
[08:34] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: that's not necessary.
[08:36] <SealedWithAKiss> zaggynl, thanks.
[08:37] <Falstaf> Is Ubuntu 9.04 ready yet?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> what are hard drive reserved blocks actually for?
[08:37] <sdakpos> Falstaf: read topic
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> !isitout
[08:37] <BIGSEX> hey guys
[08:38] <BIGSEX> anyone here dual boot with XP?
[08:38] <linny> has 9.04 been delayed ?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | BIGSEX
[08:38] <Linuxrevolution> hi all
[08:38] <Linuxrevolution> how to convert WMA to MP3?
[08:38] <Kanilla> you use google
[08:38] <Anklar> hali
[08:38] <BIGSEX> How much disk space do you need to partition off to install ubuntu with XP?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Linuxrevolution: i'd imagine mencoder would play a big part
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Kanilla: you could answer any question with that
[08:39] <chronicpirate> ummm.. I'd say 7GB is pretty decnet size + 1-3GB for swap
[08:39] <linny> Linuxrevolution: http://kozgun.net/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Linux.Wma2Mp3 any help ?
[08:39] <chronicpirate> depedning on how much you're going to install on it
[08:39] <Kanilla> ActionParsnip: yes, yes you could
[08:39] <BIGSEX> thanks chron
[08:39] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: whats mencoder?
[08:39] <chronicpirate> sure :)
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Kanilla: so saying it is moot, and not helpful
[08:39] <BIGSEX> woudl you recommend guided install?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> !info mencoder
[08:39] <BIGSEX> where linux finds the partition/sets it up for you
[08:39] <BIGSEX> or would you suggest doing it manually?
[08:39] <Linuxrevolution> linny: oh thanks let me try it
[08:39] <chronicpirate> ummmm.. not nessiceraly
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Linuxrevolution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37793
[08:40] <linny> linux make sure you have ffmpeg installed
[08:40] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: thanks alot
[08:40] <chronicpirate> first you ABSOUTLY must defrag windows to a point were ALL off it's data is continous
[08:40] <chronicpirate> as in the partition you cut off the end of the windows one will not have any thing on it
[08:40] <BIGSEX> absolutely
[08:40] <chronicpirate> or it will fuck you royaly
[08:40] <linny> #
[08:41] <BIGSEX> i'm doing it on my old computer in case i do in fact fuck myself in a royal fashion
[08:41] <Flannel> chronicpirate: Please mind your language.
[08:41] <gypsymauro> hi
[08:41] <kj4> hello all
[08:41] <BIGSEX> woops
[08:41] <chronicpirate> and if you know what you're doing I wouldn't use the guided
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> i personally recommend a clean install with intelligent partitioning of windows to leave free space for ubuntu
[08:41] <chronicpirate> oh sorry
[08:41] <BIGSEX> ok
[08:41] <kj4> when can I download intrepid ignoramus?
[08:41] <chronicpirate> I've done it with windows on there aready
[08:41] <BIGSEX> and no problems?
[08:41] <kj4> i'm sure thats the question of the evening
[08:41] <Madpilot> BIGSEX, mind finding a nick that doesn't offend, pls?
[08:41] <chronicpirate> but I knew hwat I was doing
[08:41] <chronicpirate> really not that hard
[08:41] <chronicpirate> you just use the partioin app in the live boot version and cut off the end of your windows partition
[08:41] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> there we go
[08:42] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> woops
[08:42] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> that failed
[08:42] <Linuxrevolution> linny: there is a problem here
[08:42] <kj4> LARGEFAMILYGETTO, i'm offended
[08:42] <gypsymauro> I know it's a silly question but on saturday we have a Free Software event so I want to prepare 5 notebook with the latest ubuntu (9.04) and I know that tomorrow and the other days the download will be impossible.. is the RC the nearest version of the final one? or there are daily snapshots?
[08:42] <Linuxrevolution> linny: Error while decoding stream #0.0
[08:42] <LARGEFAMILYGETTO> its supposed to say large family get together
[08:42] <chronicpirate> mount it to like /mount/windows and then the root to / and oh yeah make a bit off the endo f your new partition to be swap and set it to /swap
[08:42] <Kanilla> i think getto is better
[08:42] <chronicpirate> but It wouldn't be a bad idea to do it all clean
[08:42] <Madpilot> gypsymauro, if you installed the RC then updated, you'd get the final
[08:43] <St3v3> alright
[08:43] <St3v3> thanks a lot chronic
[08:43] <kj4> Madpilot, are you sure bout dat?
[08:43] <chronicpirate> heh no wories
[08:43] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: I've seen this page in ubuntuforums but when I convert file output is just a 5 KB file size :/
[08:43] <chronicpirate> if it fucks up you're no worse off then doing fresh anyway :D
[08:43] <Madpilot> kj4, yes.
[08:43] <chronicpirate> that's the good news
[08:43] <chronicpirate> oh god
[08:43] <St3v3> that's true
[08:43] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <kj4> when can i downlaod the release?
[08:44] <Seeker`> !language | chronicpirate
[08:44] <sdakpos> tomorrow
[08:44] <St3v3> man, the moderating is intense here
[08:44] <chronicpirate> sorry it's hard to stop cussing.. most of the networks I use don't mind :)
[08:44] <kj4> what time tomorrow?
[08:44] <St3v3> chron, have you tried running a liveUSB at all?
[08:44] <chronicpirate> St3v3: nope
[08:44] <Madpilot> St3v3, it's a release day and there's 1500 in this channel. Normally it's a bit more relaxed...
[08:44] <sdakpos> kj4: tomorrow.. anytime.. because it will be available sometime today
[08:44] <kj4> bye you bastidges
[08:45] <St3v3> Mad:fair enough, thanks for the info
[08:45] <Linuxrevolution> linny: ffmpeg is installed
[08:45] <chronicpirate> only problem with that is the mobo on the computer you're using has to both be able to boot from usb and have it set to boot from that before a hdd
[08:45] <chronicpirate> so if it's your own thing it's fine
[08:45] <St3v3> chron: right, i've read a ton about it, and i've tried it, my comp is completely capable of booting from a USB but it still says that theres no OS on the pen drive
[08:45] <chronicpirate> but if you like wanna take it on the go for troubleshooting for work/fun or to use it at public places like school it might not work
[08:46] <chronicpirate> hmmm
[08:46] <chronicpirate> don't know then.. I've never tried it myself
[08:46] <sdakpos> kj4: what does it mean? as you can guess i'm not a native english speaker ;p
[08:46] <St3v3> yeah, i was hoping it'd be easier than it is, i just wanna try the OS out for a while with a persistent install before i go headfirst and possibly erase a hard drive
[08:46] <chronicpirate> St3v3: you just thowing an iso on there or you actually installing it there
[08:47] <St3v3> just putting the iso on
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Linuxrevolution: you need something like that. Try: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert
[08:47] <chronicpirate> that's your problem
[08:47] <St3v3> well i mean
[08:47] <chronicpirate> it's a file that way
[08:47] <St3v3> right
[08:47] <chronicpirate> your usb stick won't mount it like it were a physical drive
[08:47] <St3v3> i used the tool in ubuntu that makes a liveUSB which basically works like the liveCD but with a persistence loop
[08:47] <chronicpirate> neither will your mobo more the leiky
[08:47] <Adalid_Negro> i have 9.04
[08:47] <storhaug3> JAUNTY!!!!
[08:47] <chronicpirate> I think you can actually install it to the external device
[08:48] <gypsymauro> Adalid_Negro: ?
[08:48] <Adalid_Negro> yes you can obtain yet?
[08:48] <Guest82508> i guys...i have ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop and ubuntu 8.4 on my laptop.....in ubuntu 8.10 if i set the terminal background ad "transparent" i can see the underground windows ( not only the wallpaper) how can i do the same in ubuntu 8.4????
[08:48] <St3v3> i've considered that, but i read it eventually krushes your stick from overuse
[08:48] <Adalid_Negro> i has downloadthis =)
[08:48] <chronicpirate> O_o
[08:48] <Flannel> !jaunty | Adalid_Negro, gypsymauro, storhaug3
[08:48] <sdakpos> kj4: and actuallty if you have older version of ubuntu you can run update-manager -d to update to 9.04
[08:48] <chronicpirate> it wouldn't be any worse then what you're doing dude
[08:48] <Linuxrevolution> ActionParsnip: hmmmmmmmmm I'll try it
[08:48] <chronicpirate> be it an installed os or an image your computer sitll reads from it the same
[08:49] <storhaug3> aah thank you for pointing me to #ubuntu-release-party
[08:49] <chronicpirate> when you use a live disk it accesses the dvd/cd just as if it were on a hdd
[08:49] <St3v3> fair enough, wouldn't a 4gb stick be pushing it a little though?
[08:49] <chronicpirate> that's why it's all so slo
[08:49] <Adalid_Negro> i have iso (not RC)
[08:49] <chronicpirate> na man
[08:49] <chronicpirate> it would be basically the exact same thing
[08:49] <St3v3> sweeeet
[08:49] <chronicpirate> but you could actualy save stuff
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: my / partition is only using 2.6Gb
[08:49] <chronicpirate> and not start from scratch every time
[08:49] <St3v3> right
[08:49] <St3v3> well
[08:50] <St3v3> the liveUSB thing actually has a persistence loop so it saves changes
[08:50] <chronicpirate> ohhh
[08:50] <Adalid_Negro> well nowhere taht lke the new iso...?
[08:50] <chronicpirate> I see
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: just remember to read through    dpkg -l | less
[08:50] <St3v3> but
[08:50] <Flannel> Adalid_Negro: This channel is not for the discussion of the release of Jaunty.  Please head to the appropriate channel. Also, 9.04 is not released yet.  Thanks.
[08:50] <storhaug3> Adalid_Negro: the latest daily release is probably the same as 9.04 final if you want it that bad
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: and remove all the stuff you dont use
[08:50] <kjkjl> actionparsnip any idea about how to check if the drivers are installed properly
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: sudo lshw -C <something>
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: depends for what piece of hardware
[08:51] <kjkjl> is there any reference for these commands
[08:51] <Adalid_Negro> sorry flanel, i can obtain a copy and i would help
[08:51] <chronicpirate> I'd try an actual install on the stick cause even so it's still going to access it the same weahter it's live or actually installed on there
[08:51] <St3v3> alright, i'll definitely try that, that's the only reason i bought that stick anyways
[08:51] <chronicpirate> and flash memory is really realiable so you'd have to use it a LOT to wear it out
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: man <command>
[08:51] <St3v3> awesome
[08:52] <kjkjl> actionparsnip i am unable to enable desktop effects inubuntu so wondering whats wrong with my computer
[08:52] <chronicpirate> I mena I sill have ps2/1 memory cards that are running perfect and those are like 6=7 years old
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: theres even man man   but no man woman
[08:52] <St3v3> if i do a full install on the stick don't i have to change some advanced option at the end regarding where the GRUB goes?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: you need to install video drivers
[08:52] <chronicpirate> St3v3: not sure. never done it myself but I would assume so
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: what is the output of   lspci | grep -i vga
[08:52] <chronicpirate> I recall there being an "Install to external device" option but I might be wrong
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> !usb
[08:53] <St3v3> oh man
[08:53] <chronicpirate> there you go
[08:53] <St3v3> e-help
[08:53] <sdakpos> http://byy.pl/Ubuntu904/
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: you can pay for phone help if you wish
[08:54] <St3v3> nah, i'm good, just wanted to see if there was more info on it. i'm just trying to exhaust every option short of dual booting for now
[08:54] <chronicpirate> St3v3: you got more then one HDD?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> St3v3: well, why do you need XP?
[08:54] <kjkjl> actionparsnip 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[08:54] <St3v3> chron: no, i don't. i'm thinking about "dual booting" by using an external eventually
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> kjkjl: ok now you have that you can websearch how to set it up
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> i gotta go check some web interfaces real quick
[08:55] <St3v3> and AP: i've been using windows all my life and all of my work is on it, i'm not ready to just throw it all out the window
[08:55] <chronicpirate> I still got windows for games
[08:55] <St3v3> exactly
[08:55] <chronicpirate> I don't care if you CAN get them to run on linux either
[08:56] <chronicpirate> they still don't run as well as natively
[08:56] <St3v3> i couldn't agree more. i mostly need linux to run some crazy fmri software. everything else is staying on windows
[08:56] <DaveWM> ok,  so i'm looking for an ubuntu flavor to put on a eee pc 901 that i just purchased for my mom,  there's so many netbook/mobile versions i don't know what to go with,  i just know she needs something intuitive and easy to use,  so far i'm stuck looking between eeebuntu,  ubuntu UMPC,  or easy peasy
[08:56] <St3v3> so i've heard
[08:56] <chronicpirate> and my old pc barely can run the games I got as it is
[08:56] <DaveWM> anybody got any experience with those?  the interface os UMPC looks really nice
[08:56] <DaveWM> os=of
[08:57] <St3v3> you're tellin me, the laptop i'm trying to dualboot with has a 60gb (upgraded) hard drive and a broken fan. that's class.
[08:57] <chronicpirate> oh nice
[08:57] <St3v3> it struggled to run tribes 2
[08:57] <St3v3> if that gives you any indication
[08:57] <ssn> does anyone know how to restore grub if all linux partitions are deleted (just windows left)?
[08:57] <chronicpirate> like I said though you should just try the dual boot what I told ya earlier.. if it messes up you're no worse off then doing it fresh :)
[08:58] <St3v3> absolutely, thanks so much for the advice chron
[08:58] <chronicpirate> so long as you make sure it's properly defragged and you don't mount the windows drive to / when you install you're good
[08:58] <andreas>                                gkehg
[08:58] <andreas> russs
[08:58] <andreas> rtuu
[08:58] <andreas> wwww4eyu
[08:58] <andreas> ruujWSE
[08:58] <FloodBot2> andreas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <chronicpirate> even if something goes awry you sill have your windows data and can use fixmbr to get it back
[08:59] <chronicpirate> most cases anyway
[08:59] <St3v3> haha, from what i've read it sounds like when you screw with the MBR a little things get all wild
[09:00] <chronicpirate> na.. sometimes grub can mess up but if you use windows xp as a boot disk and fix your mbr it's good as new
[09:00] <ssn> chronicpirate: its vista and i dont have a windows boot cd at hand
[09:01] <kjkjl> in the terminal it say press return but thre is no return labelled key on my keyboard
[09:01] <chronicpirate> if you know hwat you're doing you can even manually edit your boot.ini file using ubuntu live after it's already installed to it's own partitin and set up dual boot hat way
[09:01] <chronicpirate> oh
[09:01] <chronicpirate> wait?
[09:01] <chronicpirate> ssn?
[09:01] <ssn> how do i restore the mbr with knoppix and doesnt this make things worse?
[09:01] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:01] <ssn> chronicpirate: yes?
[09:01] <ipatel> quick ? guys.... any news on 9.04 (meant to be released today)
[09:01] <chronicpirate> St3v3 didn't change his nick
[09:01] <chronicpirate> ssn: um I wasn't really talking to you but I don't know
[09:01] <chronicpirate> don't use vista
[09:02] <chronicpirate> might use windows 7 but xp is my choice for now
[09:02] <kjkjl> what is the return key
[09:02] <ssn> chronicpirate: i have to (you can by me a mac if you want to)
[09:02] <linny> i have rtorrent running in a dedicated server under the user rt the files go to /home/rt/torrents/done/ how can i make it so new files written in here by rtorrent can be deleted via the wtorrent frontend atm i can only delete them via ssh sudo
[09:02] <St3v3> i'm running vista on this machine, but the one i'd dual booting with is XP
[09:02] <Nytrix> was not ubuntu 9.04 suppose to be released on the 22nd of this month?
[09:02] <chronicpirate> ssn: http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/microsoft-public-windows-vista-general/26168-fix-mbr-vista.html
[09:02] <chronicpirate> that should help
[09:03] <Flannel> !party | Nytrix
[09:03] <ssn> chronicpirate: i have no X
[09:03] <chronicpirate> Nytrix: it was the 23rd actually
[09:03] <kjkjl> chronicpirate what is the return key
[09:03] <linny> Nytrix: 23rd it was
[09:03] <ssn> since my knoppix is broken
[09:03] <ssn> cann you tell me what it says?
[09:03] <chronicpirate> no X?
[09:03] <chronicpirate> oh
[09:03] <chronicpirate> lol
[09:03] <chronicpirate> I got ya
[09:03] <ssn> knoppix from usb stick
[09:03] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <linny> you guys know what day it is
[09:03] <chronicpirate> you need to use your vista disk
[09:03] <ssn> no X anymore after apt-get upgrade
[09:03] <ssn> hm
[09:03] <linny> ITS ST GEORGES DAY !
[09:04] <kjkjl> ubottu what is  the retun key
[09:04] <linny> :)
[09:04] <kjkjl> ubottu what is the return key
[09:04] <St3v3> is that a serious question?
[09:04] <chronicpirate> or
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /FixMbr
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /FixBoot
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /ScanOs
[09:04] <chronicpirate> Bootrec.exe /RebuildBcd
[09:04] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:04] <chronicpirate> +
[09:04] <chronicpirate> sorry meant to pm that all
[09:04] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:05] <ssn> chronicpirate: thx. now if i had the vista boot disk at hand :D
[09:05] <Shaboo> Can anyone tell me what time .... kidding, actually I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there's a way to power a usb device on and off from the commandline.  I have a 3g modem that get's stuck and I want to create a script that  re-powerd it when it fies
[09:05] <chronicpirate> lol... yeah you need the repair console
[09:05] <chronicpirate> or whatever
[09:05] <kjkjl> is backspace and return key the same
[09:05] <ZhouYu> i am trying to zip a svn folder... i am using "zip -r test.zip svnfolder" .. but when i download it, it said that Cannot create PHP Cake.tmbundle\Snippets\$html->getCrumbs(GǪ).tmSnippet
[09:05] <maximo> http://www.ubuntu.com/comingsoon
[09:05] <St3v3> kjkjl:
[09:05] <ZhouYu> i meant when i extracted it
[09:05] <St3v3> NO
[09:05] <ssn> i hate windows :D but it is jauntys fault really
[09:05] <ssn> the rc messed up my old install
[09:06] <kjkjl> st3v3 what is the return key
[09:06] <St3v3> i personally like windows... and i like vista... oh god
[09:06] <St3v3> return key=enter key
[09:06] <kj4> kjkjl your nick is one off from my callsign
[09:06] <ipatel> quit
[09:06] <Rapachooie> aloha all
[09:06] <kjkjl> kj4 i dont understand what u said
[09:06] <Rapachooie> probably asked a million times but...
[09:06] <chronicpirate> oh here it comes
[09:06] <chronicpirate> don't ask
[09:06] <ziroday> Rapachooie: join the party in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:06] <kj4> kjkjl my ham callsign is KJ4KJL
[09:07] <Rapachooie> :)
[09:07] <chronicpirate> you're gonna delay the release for an hour
[09:07] <Rapachooie> lol
[09:07] <BladeNBrocade> s/dows/blows/g
[09:07] <Rapachooie> alright ill shuttup and wait like everyone else :D cheers
[09:07] <kjkjl> kj4 does ham mean hamradio
[09:07] <marcusdavidus> hello can i ask aboute jaunty ehere sience today realese?
[09:07] <chronicpirate> oh wait .. that's in release-party
[09:07] <chronicpirate> not here
[09:07] <geophoenix> hello everyone
[09:08] <Z_o-s-o> join #releaseparty
[09:08] <marcusdavidus> chronicpirate:  but i got nasty critical stupid video choppy bug
[09:08] <ttmrichter> Is there any way to tell the Linux kernel to restrict the amount of RAM an individual application can use?  Firefox is leaking memory like a sieve and I'd like to finally just put a hard restriction on what it can take.
[09:08] <geophoenix> ubuntu+1 isn't for the release ?
[09:08] <chronicpirate> try #ubuntu-release-party
[09:08] <Z_o-s-o> ahh thats the one
[09:08] <Z_o-s-o> my bad
[09:08] <chronicpirate> :P
[09:09] <ipatel> quit
[09:11] <ZhouYu> why my zip file change a dot (.) into some weird characters ?
[09:11] <gordonjcp> ttmrichter: ulimit possibly?
[09:12] <timfrost> geophoenix: no, #ubuntu+1 will disappear once jaunty is official, because it is the channel for support of the development release
[09:12] <ipatel> meta-k
[09:12] <alesan> timfrost, so after jaunty they will stop ubuntu development?
[09:13] <celthunder> alesan, no
[09:13] <ttmrichter> gordonjcp: Interesting.  That's a shell built-in, right?  How would I go about invoking it from a desktop icon?
[09:13] <kmkmkjd> what time will 9.4 be released?
[09:13] <ipatel> help
[09:13] <alesan> celthunder, so can you explain timfrost's statement?
[09:13] <rm-f> no hes saying that after it is officially released they would close that room.. as that room is devoted to the development version
[09:13] <ziroday> kmkmkjd: never at this rate, join the part in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:13] <timfrost> try '/j #release-party' (w/o quotes) to join the release party,
[09:14] <ziroday> timfrost: the place is #ubuntu-release-party
[09:14] <alesan> rm-f, that implies ubuntu development will stop
[09:14] <celthunder> alesan, the channel for jaunty will become this one and then there WILL BE no new version yet so they cant have a ubuntu+1 channel when there is no beta out for the next release once a new beta is available they will reopen +1 channel
[09:14] <Flannel> alesan: They stop development for about a month.
[09:14] <etb> hi, anyone used google gadgets? how do i install a .gg gadget/
[09:14] <etb> ?
[09:15] <alesan> Flannel, that explains everything
[09:15] <ziroday> etb: using screenlets or google gadgets.
[09:15] <alesan> Flannel, has Mark announced +2 yet?
[09:15] <timfrost> alesan: thanks.  No wonder #release-party is deserted
[09:15] <Flannel> alesan: Karmic Koala?
[09:15] <alesan> Flannel, I mean K* ?
[09:15] <ziroday> alesan: you mean karmic?
[09:15] <james7493> alesan: Immediately after jaunty gets released there is no development version to support, since nothing would be done yet. +2 is Karmic Koala, it has been announced.
[09:15] <etb> ziroday: yeah using google gadgets. how?
[09:15] <ziroday> etb: I have no idea, never used them
[09:16] <alesan> Flannel, I guess the answer is yes then :) do you have a handy link to the announcement?
[09:16] <Aeosynth> does anyone know what time 9.04 will be released?
[09:16] <ziroday> Aeosynth: never, join the party in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:16] <Flannel> alesan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html
[09:16] <alesan> thanks
[09:16] <ziroday> alesan: you might also want to read through mark shuttleworths blog
[09:16] <Maximo> Aeosynth: it just say on the website ---> coming soon
[09:18] <Aeosynth> Maximo: exactly. no timestamp.
[09:18] <kmkmkjd> anyone know if 9.4 comes with latest boost libs?
[09:18] <Maximo> Aeosynth: Exactly
[09:18] <Maximo> no time
[09:18] <GutZuWiSSeN> anyone know the system-monitor addon on the right side in this screenshot? http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=92197&file1=92197-1.jpg&file2=&file3=92197-3.jpg&name=BlackLine2
[09:18] <ziroday> There is no "set time", it will come out when its ready.
[09:19] <ziroday> GutZuWiSSeN: conky
[09:19] <Maximo> Aeosynth: just be patient you not going anywhere...just read the blog for timebeing
[09:19] <GutZuWiSSeN> ziroday: thx
[09:22] <Enissay> Is there a way to change transmission's interface... personalise it?
[09:22] <ziroday> Enissay: no
[09:22] <Enissay> xD.... ok
[09:22] <ziroday> Enissay: but you can use a different bittorrent client if you would prefer. There are a quite a few
[09:23] <mandingoceo> can any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 810
[09:23] <chronicpirate> some people like to hate on it cause it uses a lot of memory as it's writen in java
[09:23] <Enissay> zined, I know... i'll try another one
[09:23] <chronicpirate> but azureus/vuze is actually pretty decent.. if you disable a bunch of features and use classic ui
[09:23] <chronicpirate> or you can always run ktorrent or utorrnet in wine
[09:24] <chronicpirate> in fact.. they just releases a osx beta
[09:24] <chronicpirate> that "might" run okay if you can get it to install
[09:24] <chronicpirate> max is just unix
[09:24] <Elika> Hello.  Anyone know of any IRC channels relating to the series .hack// ?
[09:24] <pjfry1> I was just at the 9.04 release party channel but I can't remember the name ... would someone post it for me,
[09:24] <chronicpirate> #ubuntu-release-party
[09:24] <mandingoceo> can any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 810
[09:24] <groppo> join #ubuntu-release-party
[09:25] <Elika> Thank you.
[09:25] <fabzor3> mandingoceo: have you tried ununstalling pluseaudio in synaptic?
[09:26] <mandingoceo> no
[09:26] <fabzor3> i find pulseaudio caused problems with my alsa games
[09:26] <fabzor3> so yeah it might be worth a shot
[09:26] <mandingoceo> ill try it
[09:26] <fabzor3> gl
[09:26] <mandingoceo> 1 reboot its there then next its gone
[09:27] <fabzor3> mandingoceo: whats gone?
[09:27] <Elika> I was suggested to the wrong room.  I will have to make one of my own entitled #dothack//room
[09:28] <tool> does anyone have experience with mounting hard drives?
[09:28] <kjkjl> i typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel  to get drivers and itis stuck at 49%.what do i do
[09:28] <kraut> moin
[09:28] <dn4> anyone know where I can get a free laptop with ubuntu on it?
[09:28] <_g0tmi1k_> lol
[09:28] <fabzor3> lolololo0l dn4
[09:28] <fabzor3> heaven?
[09:28] <kjkjl> dn4 free laptop???
[09:28] <chronicpirate> kjkjl: try removing it and installing it agian :\
[09:28] <chronicpirate> or just wait
[09:28] <mandingoceo> the sound card phonmon what ever it is reports that its unistalled
[09:28] <francis> how many do u want dn4?
[09:28] <dn4> just 1
[09:29] <francis> lol
[09:29] <un_dave> hi all
[09:29] <anooptp> hai everybody
[09:29] <francis> only 1 free laptop?
[09:29] <fabzor3> might be faulty hardware
[09:29] <dn4> francis, yeah I need one to write up my lab reports on the go
[09:29] <fabzor3> free?!@!?!?!
[09:29] <anooptp> i have a sound problem
[09:29] <francis> lol
[09:29] <un_dave> i'm attempting to update an instance of 7.10 ubuntu, but getting lots of errors when i try to sudo apt-get update
[09:29] <fabzor3> i worked scrubbing the floor for 4 weeks to save up for my laptop
[09:30] <anooptp> pls help me
[09:30] <fabzor3> so good luck getting one for free
[09:30] <anooptp> is anybody there
[09:30] <corinth> !patience
[09:30] <shadeslayer> anooptp: sure
[09:30] <corinth> !ask
[09:31]  * dn4 must assert patience with achieving a laptop without spending money on one
[09:31] <anooptp> shadeslaye i have a sound problem
[09:31] <alphanumeric123> so, jaunty's almost out
[09:31] <un_dave> it seems the servers are givign 404 errors, how can i update them ?
[09:31] <shadeslayer> anom01y: intel HDA?
[09:31] <Flannel> un_dave: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:31] <corinth> alphanumeric123: Jaunty won't be out for another week now
[09:32] <alphanumeric123> why?
[09:32] <anooptp> ich5
[09:32] <un_dave> the server i'm attempting to update is currently 7.10
[09:32] <corinth> J/k :-P
[09:32] <mede> hello everyone
[09:32] <un_dave> Flannel: ^
[09:32] <mede> any idea on how to config multi edubuntu server
[09:32] <shadeslayer> um no idea on that one
[09:32] <Flannel> un_dave: 7.10 reached EOL on april 18th.  As far as I'm aware, the archive.ubuntu.com mirror is still up.  You need to upgrade to 8.04 though, since you're not getting any updates.
[09:33] <lizzzzard> dn4: are you writing up your labs report for university? -- maybe they have laptops for students that you can use? my university borrows laptops to students for large projects.
[09:33] <anooptp> shadeslaye. no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[09:33] <tool> knowledge on hard drives,.. anyone?
[09:33] <Geoffrey2> I was using gparted, a resize operation didn't work, and now on startup I'm getting the following error message during during the disk check.... fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=187f9392-c391-4723-9251-8ad7505f8f2d'
[09:33] <un_dave> Flannel: i figured i'd apply the 7.10 updates first?
[09:33] <un_dave> Flannel: before i updated it to 8.04
[09:33] <Flannel> un_dave: Yes, you need to be up to date.  Try switching your mirrors to archive.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <Geoffrey2> fsck died with exit status 8
[09:34] <anooptp> shadeslaye  r u tere???
[09:34] <dn4> lizzzzard, yes; and yes they have that here as well
[09:34] <un_dave> Flannel: ok, will try that now
[09:34] <un_dave> brb
[09:34] <mede> any idea on how to config multi edubuntu server
[09:34] <shadeslayer> anooptp: yep
[09:34] <mede> any idea on how to config multi thin clinet server
[09:34] <shadeslayer> anooptp: try the wiki and forums too
[09:34] <rhavenw> hi,
[09:34] <mede> any idea on how to config multi thin client server
[09:35] <rhavenw> can someone point me in the best direction for connecting a pocketpc WM6 to a pc running ubuntu,
[09:36] <un_dave> Flannel: ok, i cant see any options to select the archive sources in the "Software Sources" dialoge
[09:36] <Flannel> un_dave: You may have to manually edit your sources.list
[09:36] <lizzzzard> dn4: that is the only way I can think of to get your hands on a free laptop -- though it would not technically be yours of course. If all else fails, you might want to consider a netbook like the asus eeepc, they are cheaper, but they are ok for simpler jobs like writing things down. And ubuntu runs fine on them with a few (well documented) tweaks.
[09:36] <shadeslayer> anooptp: btw did you try setting everything in the volume mixer to high? PCM and master?
[09:37] <dn4> sweet lizzzzard thanks for the info
[09:37] <un_dave> Flannel: ok, i'm fine with that. could you tell me what lines to add?
[09:37] <Flannel> un_dave: um, well, pastebin it, and we'll take a look.
[09:37] <dn4> lizzzzard, do you know of any tablets that ubuntu runs on nicely?
[09:37] <syntax\> guys, has anyone tried using pidgin to access openfire(xmpp) intranet messaging?
[09:37] <francis> macbook air
[09:37] <francis> :P
[09:38] <syntax\> im so soo lost.
[09:38] <_g0tmi1k_> lost wasnt on last night!
[09:38] <francis> :o
[09:38] <egoist> it was lost
[09:38] <alphanumeric123> anyone got the date for the final jaunty release? or is it like midnight tonight
[09:39] <Flannel> !isitout | alphanumeric123
[09:39] <alphanumeric123> ok
[09:39] <egoist> Well, there is a predetermined time, the 23rd?
[09:39] <alphanumeric123> !isitout | Flannel
[09:39] <lizzzzard> uhh I have not considered a tablet pc, so I don't know any specific model. But if you consider buying one of those be sure to check out the ubuntu forums online to see what problems people are having. sometimes there are also wiki pages for a special type of notebook/tablet/netbook, I know there is one for the eeepc. Just google for the name of the device and ubuntu, that works pretty well for me
[09:40] <kjkjl> chronipirate u around
[09:41] <kjkjl> chronicpirate
[09:41] <lizzzzard> I love how you guys have macros for annoying questions, that sure beats getting unpatient and maybe unfriendly towards users
[09:41] <kjkjl> what is the meaning of ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[09:42] <DaveWM> heh
[09:42] <ikonia> kjkjl: it's re-caching the libarary paths
[09:42] <dn4> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB560
[09:42] <dn4> any ideas on how to get a public key?
[09:42] <DaveWM> what kind of macro's are we talking here?
[09:43] <ikonia> DaveWM: key for what ?
[09:43] <ikonia> DaveWM: sorry
[09:43] <ikonia> dn4: key for what ?
[09:43] <kjkjl> ikonia i had typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and afte several minutes it had showed that message that you explained. does that mean my driver si installed
[09:43] <dn4> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB560
[09:43] <slytherin> dn4: it depends on which PPA you are using
[09:43] <dn4> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/
[09:44] <un_dave> Flannel: still there? pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a6
[09:44] <ikonia> kjkjl: that message has nothing to do with the xorg driver - don't worry about it
[09:45] <ds_creamer> I'm reading the man page but thought I might get a faster answer if I asked here too: What options do I need to call mount with to mount my USB flash drive?
[09:45] <kjkjl> but what about the driver . how do i know its here
[09:45] <ikonia> kjkjl: if you installed the package - it's there
[09:45] <dn4> slytherin, I found out how to get it
[09:46] <slytherin> ds_creamer: USB driver should get mounted automatically
[09:46] <kjkjl> yes now i can change the visual effects to normal . thanks ikonia ,chronicpirate and everyone
[09:47] <slytherin> dn4: check here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa
[09:47] <un_dave> Flannel: pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a6
[09:48] <lizzzzard> dn4: are you completely new to ubuntu?
[09:48] <anooptp> slytherin ihave a problem in sound
[09:48] <dn4> not quite lizzzzard
[09:49] <anooptp> can u help me ?
[09:49] <slytherin> anooptp: I am not expert in sound, but I will try.
[09:49] <anooptp> i had no sound for last 3 day no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected
[09:50] <anooptp> wen i use live cd there is sound
[09:50] <slytherin> anooptp: which version of Ubuntu?
[09:50] <anooptp> ubuntu 8
[09:51] <Hetor> anooptp: 8.10 or 9.04?
[09:51] <syntax\> neone here used openfire+pidgin?
[09:51] <Hetor> 8.04*
[09:51] <kjelle> Hello. How easy is it to change the Ubuntyu ISO image (let's say for Hardy) and include some of my own packages into the .ISO file, and having them automatically installed in the installer?
[09:51] <anooptp> 8.10
[09:51] <Hetor> kjelle: I'm interested in this too
[09:52] <anooptp> Hetor	 8.10
[09:52] <kjelle> Hetor: I know it's easy to change the ISO file
[09:52] <kjelle> Hetor: but I would like to know where on the ISO do i change, so I can include  my own packages (without having to study the entire ISO myself)
[09:52] <lizzzzard> anooptp: one of my pcs hat something like this, one of the alsa channels that are not in the standard view was muted, and master did not change anything. have you tried selecting other channels? master/pcm and such? one of those worked for me.
[09:52] <Ivru> Hi there
[09:53] <lizzzzard> anooptp: mine is a sony laptop, which seemed to have that problem sometimes.
[09:53] <anooptp> slytheri  r u tere ?
[09:53] <Hetor> I'd like to include own packages in installation CD too :P
[09:53] <irmandos> Hetor:  ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[09:54] <irmandos> kjelle: ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[09:54] <anooptp> lizzzzard  itried every thing master pcm.....
[09:54] <Ivru> I've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?
[09:55] <kjelle> irmandos: thanks
[09:55] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me if Jaunty Jackal changed the way networking takes place?  I've been using GVFS until recently, but now I am using Jackal, it seems to be acting wierd all the time
[09:55] <anooptp> were i get a solution?
[09:56] <mikebeecham> and now I have three icons for my mac mini...I only have 1 mac mini!
[09:56] <anooptp> lizzzzard	a  wen i use live cd there is sound
[09:56] <lizzzzard> anooptp: died you try searching ubuntu forums and wiki pages? maybe if you are not english/american, also try those in your language?
[09:56] <fakih> h
[09:57] <Keypad> I just deleted over 500000 files from the trash around 60 gb worth, and its stuck on a XML file. what should I do ?
[09:57] <Dolo> So, I'm using Ubuntu (Gnome) on an Intel GMA945 graphics card, output to a 24" monitor (1920x1200) - the refresh is aweful, theres a lot of tearing etc.  Is this just 'cause the graphics card is gutless (it really is..), or is there a way to speed it up (e.g. proprietary drivers etc?)
[09:58] <kjelle> Hetor: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-other <- seems to be the spot!
[09:58] <anooptp> lizzzzard sorry, i am new in upuntu
[09:58] <francis> ubantu!
[09:59] <anooptp> p	lizzzzard   bye
[10:01] <lizzzzard> anooptp: yeah i've been new just some time ago -- i can only say forums and wiki help a lot
[10:01] <anooptp> lizzzzard  ok bye, thaks alot
[10:02] <thor> does 9.4 comes with the latest boost version?
[10:04] <Neil3> yahay 9.04 today B-)
[10:05] <flavetius> ciaoooooooooooooooooooooooo
[10:05] <flavetius> ciao ragazzi
[10:05] <flavetius> come faccio a fare l'automount di una partizione all'avvio
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Dolo, What version of Ubuntu?
[10:06] <flavetius> 9.10
[10:06] <flavetius> 8.10
[10:07] <flavetius> aiuto
[10:07] <flavetius> ff
[10:07] <Master-Mind> Hello there, someone knows where to get the new ubuntu 9.04 there was supposed to be released to day :) ?
[10:07] <flavetius> c
[10:08] <Light-> Master-Mind, join #ubuntu-release-party
[10:08] <haggisbasheruk> no... another bunny dead
[10:08] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all. My girlfriend is trying to bypass a proxy and she wants to use ssh as a socks proxy, so she only needs to reach the ssh server on port 80 that I setup on my pc. She used corkscrew and then ssh -D over it, but firefox will hang on the DNS search.
[10:08] <irmandos> !isitout | Master-Mind
[10:08] <flavetius> r
[10:08] <lizzzzard> flavetius: http://ciaolinux.myblog.it/archive/2008/06/20/mount-automatico-delle-partizioni-all-avvio.html <- have you tried this?
[10:08] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Do you know whether socks should also be used in firefox for dns queries?
[10:08] <flavetius> thank you
[10:09] <lizzzzard> google is your friend ;)
[10:09] <ganesh> when ll 9.04 be released..?its april 23rd today..
[10:09] <lizzzzard> !sitout | ganesh
[10:09] <lizzzzard> !isitout | ganesh
[10:12] <dimedo> i cannot encrypt anything with gnupg anymore as it seems my own public key can no longer be found, but i should have both a private and a public key. any ideas? is it possible to re-generate a public key from the private key?
[10:13] <Plasticism> join #lisp
[10:13] <dexter47> hello
[10:14] <dexter47> is this where i can get a little help with some isa net card? :-(
[10:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> dimedo: do not think so
[10:14] <dexter47> hi
[10:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> dimedo: forget it, that's just theory :) in fact I don't know
[10:15] <drinkycrow> has anyone gotten sound to work in doom 3 with intrepid?
[10:15] <dexter47> do you have any idea where i can get some help with this?
[10:15] <blame> Hi. There's no estimated time for the 9.04 release today?
[10:15] <rumpel> now + x hours
[10:15] <zaggynl> !isitout | blame
[10:15] <Canaen> is it out yet?
[10:15] <coffeeaddict221> dexter47: ask away
[10:16] <dexter47> excuse me?
[10:16] <coffeeaddict221> whats the question?
[10:16] <zaggynl> !ask | dexter47
[10:17] <joaopinto> !clone
[10:17] <mib_qr03ie> in how many hours jaunty will be released?
[10:18] <girdy> hey i have really slow wifi internet even with ipv6 blacklisted. anyone else have this?
[10:18] <linny> mib_qr03ie: how long is a piece of string
[10:18] <shapeshed_> anyone have experience of creating screencasts in ubuntu? istanbul, recordmydesktop or xvidcap?
[10:18] <mib_qr03ie> linny: ?
[10:18] <d6chung> mib_qr03ie: Join #ubuntu-release-party.
[10:18] <bouma> im trying to get java working in firefox.. ive followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java .. but it still doesnt work in firefox
[10:19] <bouma> what package do i need ?
[10:19] <d6chung> bouma: For me, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras always did that for me.
[10:20] <girdy> was there an update to jaunty recently that broke the ath9k wireless drivers?
[10:20] <dexter47> i have an ISA IntelExpress 10, but ubuntu' won't even detect it. i want to make an internet connection sharing, so i will need 2 cards... this ISA, i can't use if ubuntu won't detect it. windows does detect it, and i can use it. so it works. any ideas?
[10:20] <loafers> I installed openbox on debian base without a desktop environment.  I installed xorg and setup my .xinitrc file, but debian does not startx everytime it boots, how do i fix this?
[10:20] <vladimir_> how to install picasa ? i add mediubuntu repository but i don't have picasa there
[10:20] <girdy> dexter: whatever they say, don't use ndiswrapper. it is the worst written driver on the planet
[10:21] <bouma> d6chung: ive got that installed.. should i reinstall it ?
[10:21] <coffeeaddict221> dexter47: does it show up on lshw?
[10:21] <linny> vladimir_: get it from http://picasa.google.co.uk/
[10:21] <drinkycrow> i get sound in everything except doom 3, i've tried setting it to oss/alsa and running aoss doom 3
[10:21] <vladimir_> ok, thanks linny
[10:21] <dexter47> girdy: ok... i'm not verry experienced, but i can handle this with some working ideas
[10:21] <DaveCo> anyone want any artwork?
[10:21] <bouma> can anyone help me get javaing working in firefox, ive got java-sun-6 installed.. and the ubuntu-restricted-plugins
[10:21] <dexter47> i tried some ubuntu forums, no luck
[10:22] <drinkycrow> my card is an audigy 2
[10:22] <girdy> dexter47: sorry just thought i would save you the hassle
[10:22] <ZiggiZah> hello all! has 9.04 release yet? thoughts?
[10:22] <girdy> dexter47: what was your card again/
[10:22] <zaggynl> !isitout | ZiggiZah
[10:22] <loafers> bouma, get the IcedTea java plugin
[10:22] <dexter47> girdy: lshw? :D
[10:22] <Dudeface> be patient
[10:23] <dexter47> what that?
[10:23] <girdy> yeah post that for me
[10:23] <Mr_Kaizer> s3r3n1t7, are you around by any chance?
[10:23] <bouma> loafers: im using 64bit ubuntu. is icetea still the go? .. cant i use a sun jre ? is ice tea a opensource jre ?
[10:23] <ZiggiZah> thnx ubottu
[10:24] <coffeeaddict221> in a terminal.  It lists the hardware on your machine, will pick up if your card is recognised by Linux (even if a driver isn't present).
[10:24] <dexter47> girdy: i'm on my bro's pc, so it doesn't have isa support. i'll run the live cd from my pc, i'll get back to you soon
[10:24] <girdy> k
[10:24] <girdy> why is my CPU throttling at 100% all the time?
[10:24] <dexter47> girdy: thanks
[10:25] <loafers> bouma, I am not qualified to say, but I had the exact same problem as you and everything worked fine after installing IcedTea.  And I think it is opensource, the description says its a temporary fork of OpenJDK
[10:25] <girdy> since an update in jaunty, i have the slowest wireless imaginable, no power-manager, and terrible battery life
[10:25] <Anarkist> lol
[10:25] <bovv> I need to find where the option for disabling Compviz is... what is the command-line command for getting to it?  (even if it opens the window, that's fine...)
[10:25] <girdy> does anyone have any tips on how to speed up internet using ath9k drivers?
[10:25] <Anarkist> no wonder I was hesitatnt about upgrading
[10:25] <slytherin> girdy: what do you mean by no power-manager?
[10:25] <ChrisOnFacebook> Hi
[10:26] <slytherin> bovv: I don't know command line. DOn't you have access to GUI?
[10:26] <girdy> slytherin: power manager is running, but my cpu is always at 100%
[10:26] <girdy> slytherin: regardless of load
[10:26] <girdy> slytherin: meaning the battery life on my laptop is like 30 minutes
[10:26] <slytherin> girdy: what has power manager got to do with CPU being at 100%. Looks like some process is eating CPU.
[10:26] <ChrisOnFacebook> Does anybody can help me to set a conenction to a MySQL over SSH on a OpenSolaris server (Joyent) ?
[10:27] <bouma> loafers: ok surely you are joking.. ive got sun java 6 .. and also 5 aka 1.5 cause i need it for the intel idb.. which works.. but im still unable to get firefox java working
[10:27] <bouma> and i must say the web help is useless
[10:27] <girdy> slytherin: if you do sudo apt-get install powertop
[10:27] <girdy> slytherin: powertop shows you what mode your CPU is in.
[10:28] <owner> When is it coming ?
[10:28] <girdy> slytherin: usually with nothing running, power-manager should "step down" the CPU frequency to save on battery
[10:28] <Mr_Kaizer> I'm still having some issues with the desktop on my 8,10. After it's done booting, and I've logged on, the desktop won't apear most of the time, I just get the cream colored background. The times it does work, the screen first turns black with red flickering stripes, then the panels apear (or, the white outlines of them atleast). The icons gradualy apear, after about 10-15 min they're all there. Anyone have any suggestions?
[10:28] <slytherin> girdy: what does output of 'top' command tell you? which process is eating CPU?
[10:28] <slytherin> girdy: I don't believe power-manager does that.
[10:28] <bovv> slytherin: yeah, but I cannot find the option... :-(
[10:28] <girdy> slytherin: thank you soooo much
[10:29] <dn4> rm: cannot remove `Vagrant Records': Read-only file system
[10:29] <bovv> slytherin: idea... can you open the option and tell me what process is running?
[10:29] <girdy> slytherin: i had BOINC running in the background and i didn't even know it
[10:29] <girdy> slytherin: thanks man!
[10:29] <slytherin> bovv: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects
[10:29] <dn4> how do I remove something on a Read-only file system
[10:29] <loafers> bouma, I'm not joking.  Like I said, I had the EXACT same problem as you did and was extremely annoyed.  So I clicked the icon that appears when you have insufficient requirements to run the applet and firefox recommended icedtea as the plugin to install and then it worked.  as for why java 6 runtime won't run the applets on firefox i am still just as clueless as you are.
[10:29] <slytherin> dn4: you can't
[10:29] <wlodi> Hi lads, I want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?
[10:29] <dn4> slytherin, how do I re mount it as a file system where I can
[10:29] <bovv> slytherin: It should be there, but I am running in Japanese... and the option is MISSING.
[10:30] <bouma>  is this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1102050, seriously necessary ??
[10:30] <bouma> surely someone has automated this
[10:31] <slytherin> bovv: that shouldn't be the case.
[10:31] <bouma> is it illegal to repackage suns 64bit java from a binary installer ??
[10:31] <bouma> i dont understand
[10:31] <bovv> slytherin: it is.
[10:31] <drone1> slytherin: have you checked the /etc/fstab file?
[10:31] <slytherin> dn4: which file system is read only?
[10:31] <joaopinto> bouma, that procedure is not required  on the recent releases
[10:31] <dn4> slytherin, when jaunty auto mounts my usb drive the file system is vfat
[10:32] <dn4> it automounts it as read only
[10:32] <bovv> slytherin: so...  could you do the "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what it is running, please?
[10:32] <bouma> joaopinto: can i simply apt-get a particular package ?
[10:32] <joaopinto> bouma, yes, the java plugin package
[10:32] <slytherin> dn4: surprising, never had that problem. Check on #ubuntu+1 if anyone else is facing same problem
[10:33] <slytherin> bouma: how about sun-java6-plugins
[10:33] <slytherin> sun-java6-plugin (no s at the end)
[10:33] <drone1> slytherin: i believe the solution for your problem is here
[10:33] <drone1> MAN mount
[10:34] <slytherin> drone1: I am not the one having problem. It is dn4
[10:34] <drone1>  sorry lol
[10:34] <girdy> how can i tell what process is eating up all my network bandwith?
[10:34] <drone1> well dn4 check out MAN mount
[10:35] <girdy> is there a command in terminal i can type that will list processes by network usage?
[10:35] <drone1> it should guide you into mounting filesystems
[10:35] <Ivru> netstat girdy
[10:35] <drone1> netstat
[10:35] <Ivru> good name for network stat isn't it ?
[10:35] <X3> guys is it me or version 9,04 is due to be released today
[10:35] <drone1> lol
[10:35] <sidewalk> Ivru: topic
[10:35] <joaopinto> girdy, iptraf is a good tool to identify bandwidth usage
[10:36] <bovv> slytherin: I understand that it doesn't make sense to you, but this config is what it is... I still need to disable Compviz... and the option is not visible.  Not my fault tha somebody packaged things this way.  But I really do need to disable Compviz and it would be really helpful if somebody usijng an English locale would help out with only the process program name so I came fix things here.
[10:36] <girdy> joaopinto: is iptraf installed by default?
[10:36] <Ivru> sidewalk: it's X3 not me
[10:36] <error404notfound> i have just installed swat on my hardy server, i can't access it either locally or remotely by going localhost:901 or host-name-here:901 or ip-here:901
[10:36] <joaopinto> girdy, no
[10:37] <X3> sorry missed that last line on topic
[10:37] <X3> though website news is set for the 23rd
[10:37] <Ivru> I've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?
[10:38] <girdy> when jaunty is "officially" released in here in a few hours, will there just be one final update for us beta users?
[10:38] <bovv> ok...
[10:39] <error404notfound> okay, got it working with xinetd
[10:39] <slytherin> bovv: I wish I could help, but I do not know the command line
[10:39] <slytherin> girdy: are you using beta or RC?
[10:40] <bovv> slytherin: OK... no prob... I will tell you the command you need to type. (I'm old school)
[10:40] <girdy> slytherin: how do i tell? do i just run uname -r?
[10:40] <unop> girdy, perhaps, perhaps not - you'll have to check then
[10:40] <mrwes> lsb_release -rd
[10:40] <joaopinto> !beta | girdy
[10:40] <malik__> hi all
[10:41] <girdy> !beta: event not found
[10:41] <bovv> slytherin: FIRST, open up that Compviz thing.
[10:41] <anish> anyone had any bad experiences with apt-p2p ?
[10:41] <bovv> slytherin: SECOND, open up a gnome-terminal
[10:41] <henninge_> anybody here affected by bug 359392?
[10:41] <slytherin> anish: a bit
[10:42] <malik__> i have two network interface on my machine. one is the Ethernete NIC and the other one is USB NIC  which connects to my laptop through a USB data cable. i want to bridge them both so that i can use the internet on my laptop also, how cn i do this in ubuntu jaunty?
[10:42] <sandralade> hi, jaunty jackalope is out already?
[10:42] <slytherin> anish: felt it was slow than usual method
[10:42] <bouma> loafers: icetea installed but it doesnt get gokgs.com to work. .. so i guess i need that cacao-oj6-jre-headless
[10:42] <Yasser> wheres ubuntu 9.04?
[10:42] <bovv> slytherin: THIRD, in the terminal type the following on the command line: ps -ef
[10:42] <anish> damn, i thought it would be faster,besides just reducing load
[10:42] <bovv> slytherin: The last new lines should contain the Compviz thingy.
[10:42] <Yasser> wheres ubuntu 9.04? its alreay 3.12pm thursday 23rd
[10:43] <bouma> joaopinto: do you know the name of the firefox java plugin ? .. cause its pretty difficult to find with just keyword searching on java firefox
[10:43] <sandralade> i think 9.04 is not yet available
[10:43] <bovv> slytherin: That's it... got it?
[10:43] <unop> !inetsharing | malik__
[10:43] <slytherin> malik__: an easy way would be to install a proxy server (squid) on machine that has internet connection, assign static IP address on both end of USB cable and then use the proxy address on the machine that needs internet address.
[10:43] <Yasser> bovv, but its already thursday 23rd right?
[10:43] <Vinceman> hi, what is a fakeroot environment good for?
[10:43] <slytherin> bovv: yes got it
[10:43] <girdy>  when i try to launch sudo ifconfig wlan0 up i get siocsifflags: input/output error. ???
[10:43] <dn4>  sudo chown -R dn4
[10:43] <joaopinto> boubbin, I don't remember it right now
 chown: missing operand after `dn4'
[10:43] <loafers> bouma, interesting you situation is even more similar to mine as I play on gokgs as well O_O I remember installing all these java files and nothing ended up working.  i did it at school on a wireless and i got disconnected often so maybe you have some broken packages.  also you need to have open jdk installed as well i believe hope this helps :/
[10:44] <malik__> hmm... ok
[10:44] <girdy> all i wanna do is disable and then renable my wireless
[10:44] <malik__> and second question.
[10:44] <slytherin> bouma: did you try sun-java6-plugin?
[10:44] <bouma> loafers: heh.. i need a game... :P
[10:44] <unop> Vinceman, building packages mainly - where you need to set permissions on files being included into the package
[10:44] <sandralade> 23th is not yet over
[10:44] <malik__> do we have a fix of Synergy server and client problem in ubuntu Jaunty  by now??
[10:44] <loafers> bouma, and btw there are issues with gokgs on ubuntu such as sound
[10:44] <adnc> hello, what time can we expect the new ubuntu release?
[10:44] <sandralade> idk
[10:44] <slytherin> malik__: it depends on many things
[10:45] <unop> !9.04 > adnc
[10:45] <malik__> because in ubuntu jaunty if its a synergy client the mouse gets stucked in the top left corner
[10:45] <girdy> is there a way to recycle the wireless drivers or am i already using the correct command
[10:45] <omer666> hi
[10:45] <slytherin> why are we having so much traffic about jaunty on this channel?
[10:45] <unop> slytherin, it's to be released today
[10:46] <loafers> bouma, if you have gokgs running while you listen to music depending on which one you started first, the one opened last will not work.  there is a workaround to this problem, but you ened to email the admins to help you out (i forgot the solution)
[10:46] <iamleneko> hi everybody
[10:46] <bouma> loafers: ive used it before with no problems
[10:46] <lizzzzard> because nobody knows about #ubuntu-release-party and #ubuntu+1
[10:46] <bouma> loafers: with ubuntu im pretty sure
[10:46] <bovv> slytherin: what did the "ps" show?
[10:46] <slytherin> unop: but it is not released today
[10:46] <slytherin> bovv: I am not using compiz. :-)
[10:46] <adnc> unop: but this doesn't tell me the hour
[10:46] <bouma> slytherin: ive tried to sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin, but there is no install candidate
[10:46] <girdy> anyone know the command to restart wireless drivers?
 : many things do u mean the synergy client and server on ubuntu jaunty depends on many things?
[10:47] <unop> adnc, /join #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <bovv> slytherin: you don't need to be... you do have the option in your menu don't you?
[10:47] <lizzzzard> slytherin: but the release schedule says so, so people are nervous
[10:47] <bouma> slytherin: it actually says its not avail but its refered to by another package
[10:47] <iamleneko> how do i make some tar.gz backup of a folder choosing only one filetype to add inside ?
[10:47] <bovv> Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:47] <bouma> slytherin: i can pastebin th ermsg
[10:47] <david9348> hello
[10:47] <david9348> when will 9.04 be released?
[10:47] <Yasser> in how many minutes can i expect to download ubuntu jaunty? im waitin in a cafe just to dlownload it!!!!!!!!!
[10:47] <girdy> appearance preferences
[10:47] <unop> iamleneko,   tar czvf  foo.tgz *.txt
[10:47] <slytherin> bouma: then your best bet is icedtea6-plugin
[10:47] <X3> girdy theres is a pocess manager the one that is using most memory will be the culprit
[10:48] <unop> iamleneko,  or better.  tar czvf  foo.tgz /path/to/*.txt
[10:48] <X3> wtf sorry lol
[10:48] <edeca> Yasser: Check the topic.
[10:48] <omer666> I'm installing Ubuntu on a friend's PC and he has an Intel GM965/GL960 graphic card, everytime I launch an OpenGL application under Intrepid I get plenty of graphical bugs
[10:48] <Nytrix> Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[10:48] <iamleneko> unop, it will do this recursivly ?
[10:48] <lizzzzard> !isitout | Yasser
[10:48] <bovv> slytherin: just do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:48] <omer666> I updated the drivers with ppa launchpad repos
[10:48] <anish> why the infinite recursion i wonder http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/
[10:48] <omer666> now it works but it is sooooo slow....
[10:49] <unop> iamleneko, no, just one level.. you'll need to use find to do this recursively
[10:49] <omer666> anyone has got an idea on how to make that GC work ?
[10:49] <bovv> slytherin: Now I am not even asking you about Compviz.
[10:49] <chronicpirate> now I do
[10:50] <chronicpirate> >:o
[10:50] <breakmyfall> Hey guys, when is ubuntu 9.04 gonna be out
[10:50] <iamleneko> unop, something like this ? find /some/folder -iname *.php | tar cvfz somefile.tar.gz ?
[10:50] <breakmyfall> ?
[10:50] <chronicpirate> stupid intenet just added like 3 days to my idlerpg
[10:50] <breakmyfall> i am excited
[10:50] <sandralade> 8-)
[10:50] <lizzzzard> bovv: slytherin has left the building
[10:50]  * chronicpirate kicks breakmyfall in the stomach
[10:50] <breakmyfall> an hour or two ?
[10:50] <girdy> i really don't understand why there is no centralized driver management app
[10:50] <chronicpirate> sorry man
[10:50] <chronicpirate> that was uncalled for
[10:50] <breakmyfall> chronicpirate: that hurts
[10:50] <lizzzzard> !isitout | breakmyfall
[10:50] <bovv> Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:50] <bovv> Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?
[10:51] <chronicpirate> you mean fusion?
[10:51] <unop> iamleneko,  err no.   find /some/dir  -name "*.php" -exec tar archive.tgz -c {} \;   # i haven't tested this, you might need to have archive.tgz created already first.
[10:51] <girdy> bovv: the name of hte program is appearance preferences
[10:51] <breakmyfall> ubottu: thnx
[10:51] <iamleneko> unop
[10:51] <iamleneko> thanks
[10:51] <KingWilliam> hi people, I have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?
[10:51] <iamleneko> i give it a try
[10:51] <drinkycrow> is it possible to have sound work in doom 3?
[10:51] <drinkycrow> or just at all
[10:52] <girdy> does anyone know if the noveau driver is ready for the intel GM945 chipset?
[10:52] <girdy> or ready period? it broke on every machine i tried it on
[10:52] <inktvis75> gridy: it works stable on my dell d830
[10:53] <inktvis75> girdy i mean ;)
[10:53] <iamleneko> girdy, strange thing is that i succeed 1 time and only one to boot the ubuntu cd with this gm945hd chipset
[10:53] <wlodi> I want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?
[10:53] <nukedclx> when 9.04 release?
[10:53] <Ivru> now
[10:53] <chronicpirate> fusion
[10:53] <girdy> iamlneko: it just shows how consistent the driver is....
[10:53] <Ivru> wlodi: you don't want to split it ?
[10:53] <unop> wlodi, tar doesn't have a 2GB limit .. but your filesystem might have this .. FAT especially
[10:53] <nukedclx> is available from mirrors?
[10:53] <n0cturnal> nukedclx: read ropic?
[10:53] <iamleneko> and the other times it have freeze just before starting X
[10:54] <NTAuthority> hi
[10:54] <n0cturnal> *topic
[10:54] <inktvis75> dell D830: GM965
[10:54] <Mr_Kaizer> !isitout | nukedclx
[10:54] <girdy> how do i install the noveau driver? i tried it a while back and it failed. what is the command?
[10:54] <wlodi> Ivru: I'll guess I have to
[10:54] <bovv> girdy: do you mean: gnome-appearance-properties?  Thanks.
[10:54] <nukedclx> thanks
[10:54] <wlodi> unop: are you sure about that?
[10:54] <unop> wlodi, yes
[10:54] <girdy> bovv: i was looking at the title of the window. it said appearance properties
[10:55] <wlodi> unop: ok, thx
[10:55] <KingWilliam> I have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?
[10:55] <KingWilliam> anyone?
[10:55] <bovv> girdy: thanks... that was a good hint.
[10:56] <r2r4> hello ! where to find the source of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ?
[10:56] <chronicpirate> it won't just work if you setup ubuntu in general to use dual?
[10:56] <girdy> bovv: yeah np
[10:56] <KingWilliam> chronicpirate, I hope it does :Pp
[10:56] <chronicpirate> I would think so
[10:56] <Mr_Kaizer> What's the best and/or easiest way to reinstall Ubuntu?
[10:56] <Mr_Kaizer> Just use the Live CD and hit install?=
[10:56] <chronicpirate> Mr_Kaizer: just reinstall
[10:56] <iceroot> Mr_Kaizer: yes
[10:57] <darrenlooby> hi all
[10:57] <darrenlooby> how do I a) find out what sound cards I have installed and b) get the drivers for them?
[10:57] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?
[10:57] <dexter47> girdy are you still here?
[10:57] <girdy> yeah
[10:57] <Mr_Kaizer> That screwed my language settings up last time, had a nice mix between English, Norwegian, and lately, Chinese
[10:57] <dexter47> sry
[10:57] <dexter47> :D
[10:57] <dexter47> ok... what was that command again?
[10:58] <lizzzzard> Mr_Kaizer: a clean new install screwed up your language settings?
[10:58] <tigerwolf> darrenlooby: the command lspci is a good command to get a list of PCI devices
[10:58] <erkuserdem> hi everyone i wanna ask a question im using ubuntu 810 and i write the code  ' sudo apt-get install kubuntu'    now  whic version of kde im downloading ?  :D
[10:59] <dexter47> girdy?
[10:59] <tigerwolf> erkuserdem: why do you want to know the version you are downloading?
[10:59] <darrenlooby> tigerwolf, thanks - that'll get me started
[10:59] <girdy> dexter47: yeah i'm still here. why do you ask?
[10:59] <erkuserdem> kde 3  kde4  kde4.1  or  4.2   which one i keen on :)
[10:59] <girdy> sorry i'm just multitasking
[10:59] <dexter47> it's ok
[11:00] <dexter47> i asked what was that command again?
[11:00] <iamleneko> this website kickass : http://www.commandlinefu.com
[11:00] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: It seems that way. First time I installed it (overwriting the existing Windows XP on the harddisc), the language was just fine (Norwegian). But after I reinstalled ut using the same Live CD, doing things the exact same way as last time, it became a mix between English and Norwegian.
[11:00] <toan> help me! when i start computer prombt grub appear and i don't come in system.
[11:00] <dexter47> girdy: i asked what was that command again?
[11:00] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: The panels were in English, but the menues on the panels were in Norwegian :P
[11:01] <lizzzzard> sounds funny
[11:01] <unop> erkuserdem,  apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop   or  apt-cache rdepends kubuntu-desktop # should give you an indication
[11:01] <X3> toan try recovery
[11:01] <girdy> dexter47: sorry which command? i asked what the command was to install the noveau driver
[11:01] <inktvis75> toan: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  :-)
[11:01] <Falstaf> what is the command after alt-F2 to upgrade to 9.04?
[11:01] <lizzzzard> toan: try using the livecd to fix your system.
[11:01] <girdy> dexter47: sorry man its 6 in the morning lol
[11:01] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: Aye, and now my desktop won't load. Either just a cream colored screen, or it goes black with flickering red stripes.
[11:01] <matisse> hi
[11:02] <tigerwolf> erkuserdem: it will most likely be a recent relese - possible 4.1 - im unsure as to why its a bit deal - if you install it you can find out then
[11:02] <matisse> before a dist-upgrade should be a normal upgrade?
[11:02] <lizzzzard> Mr_Kaizer: have you tried restarting x from the console?
[11:02] <girdy> dexter47; i did sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and got "input/output error"
[11:02] <toan> error because i upgrade system
[11:03] <erkuserdem> tigerwolf you are right, and unop thanks also
[11:03] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: I don't think so. I've only been using Ubuntu since Monday, so I'm rather noobish.
[11:03] <unop> erkuserdem,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <X3> well then dont upgrade do a fresh reintall
[11:03] <dexter47> girdy: you asked me to type a command and show you what is printed on the screen. and about that driver, where do i get it from? does apt-get gives me that driver?
[11:03] <girdy> lspci
[11:03] <isak_> Anybody know why i ant download 9.04 yet...it is the 23 now=)
[11:03] <chronicpirate> this is going to be fun to remember (l)unix commands
[11:03] <ikonia> isak_: it's not the end of the 23rd yet
[11:03] <anish> lunix ?
[11:03] <chronicpirate> haven't use it in a while
[11:03] <lizzzzard> toan it sounds like your bootrecord is broken. this could be fixed by reinstalling grub: google "fix grub bootloader"
[11:04] <ikonia> isak_: jaunty discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <isak_> isnt it?
[11:04] <isak_> aha ok sorry
[11:04] <Mr_Kaizer> !isitout | isak_
[11:04] <girdy> dexter47: lspci shows you what hardware you have
[11:04] <chronicpirate> as in boy(s)
[11:04] <dexter47> girdy: something about lh... idk... i had a problem with an isa net card... in case you fogot :D
[11:04] <chronicpirate> but like (L)inux
[11:04] <chronicpirate> er wait
[11:04] <chronicpirate> dman
[11:04] <toan> thank you
[11:04] <chronicpirate> that didn't work right
[11:04] <erkuserdem> okay unop thanks .
[11:04] <FloodBot2> chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <girdy> dexter47: first i need to know what kind of card it is
[11:04] <erkuserdem> ;)
[11:04] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?
[11:04] <Falstaf> chronicpirate what do type after alt
[11:04] <anish> :)
[11:04] <lizzzzard> Mr_Kaizer: can you get to a console via ctrl+alt+f1?
[11:04] <girdy> dexter47: do you know by chance what the card is called?
[11:04] <chronicpirate> well linux/unix commands
[11:04] <chronicpirate> linux sorta has unix in it
[11:04] <dexter47> i sayd "IntelExpress 10 ISAPNP" i think
[11:05] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: Yes, everything works up until the desktop is supposed to load.
[11:05] <girdy> dexter47: if you don't, typing lspci in terminal will give you a big list of hardware devices
[11:05] <Falstaf> chronicpirate -- what do I type after alt-f2 to upgrade the OS??
[11:05] <AdvoWork> is it possible to search for certain text within a folder? ie the text index.php within a folder called development?
[11:05] <dexter47> girdy: i'll do that now
[11:05] <dexter47> girdy: but is an ISA :(
[11:05] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: The desktop even loaded fine for the first 6 or so reboots.
[11:05] <unop> AdvoWork, use grep
[11:06] <Mr_Kaizer> lizzzzard: Gotta run, bbl
[11:06] <chronicpirate> umm crap I don't remember those. maybe apt-get update?
[11:06] <unop> AdvoWork,  grep search_word development/*
[11:06] <chronicpirate> It might not use apt i dont' rmember
[11:06] <chronicpirate> then upgrade
[11:06] <antilus> the new Ubuntu 9.04 (I guess RC-version since I typed alt+ f2) sucks so extremely hard! They've removed the "CTRL+ALT+Backspace" and the performance on my laptop equals Vista!
[11:06] <girdy> dexter47: sorry this may be going beyond my knowledge of computers. what is ISA?
[11:06] <chronicpirate> i know it's update and upgrade but maybe not apt
[11:06] <antilus> if it doesn't get better I'm gonna stay with 8.10..
[11:06] <dexter47> ISA was used before PCI
[11:07] <ordinareez> hello, is there a channel for ubuntu gamer?
[11:07] <omer666> So I found why my GMA was so slow
[11:07] <chronicpirate> #ubuntu-games ?
[11:07] <chronicpirate> myabde
[11:07] <omer666> but now I've got graphical bugs again
[11:07] <AdvoWork> unop, will that search .gz's aswell?
[11:07] <chronicpirate> nope
[11:07] <chronicpirate> try /list
[11:07] <chronicpirate> see if there is one
[11:07] <omer666> where does it come from ?
[11:07] <X3> ISA is nothing
[11:07] <lizzzzard> antilus: you are free to do so. also if you are running a intel graphics chipset on your laptop, the problem is known and being worked on. you can change the ctrl+alt+backspace thing back if you want to
[11:07] <chronicpirate> linux-games would be likey
[11:08] <byflash> hey anyone here pro @ psp hacking?
[11:08] <unop> AdvoWork,  nope .. only uncompressed non-binary files
[11:08] <X3> byflash yea so
[11:08] <girdy> god i really wish i had my VISTA cd
[11:08] <byflash> oh
[11:08] <antilus> yeah, I use my laptop at the moment...didn't know that Intel didn't work, but then I'll blame Intel instead xD
[11:08] <byflash> hey i have i question
[11:08] <X3> this is not #psp
[11:08] <antilus> but how can I change CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE so it works again?^^
[11:08] <unop> AdvoWork,   if you want to search through .gz files.    zgrep "index\.php" development/*.gz
[11:09] <byflash> there is nobody there T^T
[11:09] <AdvoWork> unop, wil doing grep searchterm folder/* search folders within that folder aswell?
[11:09] <gypsymauro> someone uses ocsinventory? I need to know on how to set TAG on clients once the service agent is installed
[11:09] <X3> antlilus look at you keyboard settings
[11:09] <lizzzzard> antilus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Ctrl-Alt-Backspace%20disabled%20by%20default%20in%20Xorg
[11:09] <arcsky> new ubuntu cmes today?
[11:09] <lizzzzard> google is your friend
[11:09] <ninjafury> I'm having trouble getting netatalk/avahi working properly with Jaunty. After upgrading to jaunty, I can't mount shared drives on my mac. Anyone have this problem?
[11:09] <unop> AdvoWork, no, add the -r flag to grep to enable recursive search ..  grep -r searchterm folder/*
[11:10] <X3> byflash: wtf do you want
[11:10] <antilus> thx a lot guys...you're the best!
[11:10] <lizzzzard> antilus: on same page for your info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards
[11:10] <inktvis75> http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[11:10] <arcsky> where can i download ubuntu 9.04?
[11:11] <supersasho> hello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one
[11:11] <lizzzzard> !isitout | arcsky
[11:11] <AdvoWork> unop so: zgrep -r "index\.php" /*.gz  will search all folders for all files Including .gz  ?
[11:11] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:12] <unop> AdvoWork, no, zgrep only looks in gzip compressed files ... and since we specified *.gz there, only those files are passed on to zgrep .. all other files are ignored
[11:13] <naxa> hi all! So how is it going?
[11:13] <naxa> I mean Jaunty of course.
[11:14] <madrazr> JJ is out :D
[11:14] <girdy> naxa: it sucks
[11:14] <unop> AdvoWork,  in other words, you need two commands, use grep to search all the normal files first, then use zgrep to search compressed files
[11:14] <girdy> naxa: no hardware support, no compiz, no internet (now anyway),
[11:14] <naxa> girdy, really? how?
[11:14] <naxa> madrazr, yeah I've a copy too
[11:15] <naxa> girdy, oh I see. how lame!
[11:15] <girdy> naxa: the noveau driver won't install on my intel gm945
[11:15] <madrazr> naxa: I don't have such a fast connection :(
[11:15] <supersasho> hello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one
[11:15] <naxa> madrazr, I came all the way here to have a fast internet and it's just not oficially out yet!  CHECK WEBSİTE!!!!
[11:16] <fincan> just kidding :)
[11:16] <naxa> girdy, yeah, I can see your point! I've an old intel chipset in my mb at home and it is not supported either! How lame!
[11:17] <salimane> fincan which website?
[11:17] <Extend> it is out right ?
[11:17] <girdy> naxa: just do it from where you are. CTRL+ F2
[11:17] <fincan> I was kidding :)
[11:17] <naxa> madrazr, yeah, i'm always lost in this. do you mean bit or byte? i meant byte.
[11:17] <dexter47> girdy?
[11:17] <girdy> naxa: enter in "update-manager -d" without quotes
[11:17] <madrazr> naxa: bit
[11:17] <naxa> girdy, wow!
[11:18] <joaopinto> today is not a good day to use update-manager :P
[11:18] <Extend> it's out i'm downloading
[11:18] <AdvoWork> unop, yeah something like that :s
[11:18] <naxa> madrazr, i see i see! Let's say it's 3*8=24 mbps here and 50*8=0,4 mbps at home for me, then. it was worth to come here!
[11:19] <supersasho> will anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?
[11:19] <fincan> kubuntu dvd on torrent and ftp
[11:19] <fincan> OUT!!!!!!!!!!
[11:19] <fincan> RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:19] <fincan> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/kubuntu-9.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[11:19] <naxa> what? for real?
[11:19] <fincan> :)
[11:19] <rc55> lies
[11:19] <brinstar> the timestamp on the iso is 20 apr???
[11:20] <fincan> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/
[11:20] <fincan> check here :)
[11:20] <tsimpson> !ops | fincan
[11:20] <LurkersA> it will be the RC
[11:20] <naxa> oh yeah no announce
[11:20] <brinstar> http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[11:20] <rc55> There really wont be much difference between RC and final
[11:20] <Matr|X> i have some problem with my lamp-server
[11:20] <Master-Mind> Hey how do i find the Danish Channel :) ?
[11:20] <supersasho> will anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?
[11:20] <omer666> anyone has a GM965/GL960 that works correctly ?
[11:21] <haggisbasheruk> for those Aspire One users out there , Kuki Linux 1.7 (based on Jaunty final) is now in testing #kukilinux for details
[11:21] <Myrtti> !dk | Master-Mind
[11:21] <drinkycrow> need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2
[11:21] <naxa> girdy, I wonder if the intel driver, network manager, menu editing and gtk filechooser just got any better? :D my critical points so far. They are not being updated too much... .)
[11:22] <Dudeface> is ubuntu based on windows xp or windows vista?
[11:22] <drinkycrow> xp
[11:22] <Dudeface> i dont like vista
[11:22] <Dudeface> SWEET!
[11:22] <Matr|X> i unstall lamp server then i install it agine give me erros like Reloading AppArmor profiles : done.
[11:22] <Matr|X>  * /etc/init.d/mysql: WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz
[11:22] <Matr|X>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                                                                [ OK ]
[11:22] <Matr|X> /etc/init.d/mysql: line 115: /etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory
[11:22] <Matr|X> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" fail
[11:22] <FloodBot2> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:22] <Myrtti> Dudeface: neither, keep the offtopic chat somewhere else
[11:22] <Matr|X> /etc/mysql/my.cnf << this is my problem :S
[11:22] <Extend> Dudeface, r u sure about what u said about ubuntu ?
[11:23] <naxa> Dudeface, it's 3.1
[11:23] <Extend> 3.1 the NT version ?
[11:23] <Matr|X> hello
[11:23] <brinstar> Dudeface: its based on DOS
[11:23] <Dudeface> 3.1 came out just after xp, wasnt as good
[11:23] <Matr|X> eny body help me plz
[11:23] <naxa> Extend, 3.1 the "for workgroups" version
[11:23] <Extend> naxa, oh nice
[11:24] <RantingHuman> The alternate iso torrent link for 9.04 shows a tracker error... "not authorized for use"..
[11:24] <bouma> ok ive got icedtea-6-plugin openjdk-6-jre- open-jdk-6-jre-headless
[11:24] <bouma> but java still doesnt work in firefox
[11:24] <naxa> Matr|X, no idea sorry :(
[11:24] <Matr|X> :(:(:(:(:(
[11:24] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:25] <Matr|X> so if i make backup for my server it will go back to three days befor
[11:25] <drinkycrow> need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2
[11:25] <Matr|X> if i backup my server will it work like 3 days later
[11:25] <LurkersA> RantingHuman: Same here
[11:25] <Atomic_UE> is 7.10 passed it's support life?
[11:26] <RantingHuman> LurkersA, I guess they're waiting till it's announced
[11:26] <erUSUL> !gutsy
[11:26] <LurkersA> Atomic_UE: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-7.10-eol
[11:26] <Atomic_UE> cool thanks
[11:26] <LurkersA> RantingHuman: Yeah, I'll just keep hitting F5 on ubuntu.com :)
[11:26] <Atomic_UE> explains why it says there are updates but nobody has them :P
[11:27] <RantingHuman> hehe
[11:27] <Atomic_UE> might click the upgrade button then and see how it goes
[11:28] <gardrell> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/
[11:28] <kraut> gardrell: rd or final?
[11:29] <Mylisto> hey everyone...
[11:29] <gardrell> final but noch released yet
[11:29] <Mylisto> how can I figure out what my ip settings are in ubuntu?
[11:29] <gardrell> ifconfig
[11:29] <kiosky> it's out: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:29] <kraut> gardrell: still not on any other mirror, let's wait ;)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:30] <naxa> Mylisto, I used to do it with typing "ifconfig" (without braces) in a Terminal what can be found in Applications
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> naxa: {} are braces ;)
[11:30] <Mylisto> which one is the default gateway?
[11:31] <naxa> ActionParsnip, whoops, that's for real! SORRY!!!
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> naxa: just playing dude
[11:31] <naxa> ActionParsnip, help me out what is these apostrophes or """""
[11:31] <karname> this is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/
[11:31] <karname> ?
[11:31] <florin> hi
[11:31] <naxa> ActionParsnip, in Hungaryr, we call them the "claws of the cat"
[11:31] <naxa> (literally)
[11:31] <LurkersA> wonder what the traffic is like on ubuntu.com right now....
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> naxa: i'd say quotes or quotation marks
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> naxa: cool, thats rockin
[11:32] <naxa> yeah it's the best!
[11:32] <karname> anybody know this is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/?
[11:32] <DRAGGER> Hello , i get a Backup form cpanel on my server when i extracted it on ubuntu i getting error "Unexpected end of file"
[11:33] <DRAGGER> i removed it and redownloaded it but the same problem
[11:33] <LurkersA> i386 alternate torrent is up and running
[11:33] <Extend> LurkersA, yeah
[11:33] <Newb`s> 9.04 is out
[11:33] <Newb`s> topic is deprecated :D
[11:33] <RustAU> !outyet
[11:34] <DRAGGER> Hello !
[11:34] <Rapachooie> hi all... I am trying to find out if there is a simple way to rename a heap of image files, so that they do not have duplicate-errors (lower-case and upper-case files appear as the same file on windows) when I put them onto windows
[11:34] <naxa> Mylisto, type "/sbin/route"
[11:34] <Rapachooie> is there a simple program or command to differentiate the files?
[11:34] <naxa> Mylisto, there you'll see your default gateway!
[11:34] <eirikhm> For a quick mirror in Scandinavia - ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/9.04/
[11:34] <Mylisto> naxa: did that...nothing happened
[11:35] <rumpel> @ Rapachooie "man rename"
[11:35] <Rapachooie> rumpel: could you elaborate a bit on that for me?
[11:35] <naxa> Mylisto, uh, well, it works for me! i write "/sbin/route" in a terminal without quotes and it just tells me the default gateway
[11:35] <Rapachooie> rumple   nevermind
[11:35] <Rapachooie> forgat thats the manual name
[11:35] <Rapachooie> *forgot
[11:36] <tucuna> it has been released (9.04)
[11:36] <Rapachooie> :) ill have a look  thanks
[11:36] <Klau3> realy?
[11:36] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:36] <tucuna> http://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/
[11:36] <Nytrix> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04
[11:36] <LurkersA> And now I remember why I hate NZ broadband speeds.... -sigh-
[11:37] <FlyOnThe1all> I'm trying to install slapd with tls-support in Hardy, but I keep getting the not-so-clear error msg: -64, anybody know what this means?
[11:37] <Mylisto> anyone know how to find the default gateway via terminal?
[11:37] <FlyOnThe1all> Mylisto: ip route
[11:37] <RustAU> how do I remove mounted disks from the desktop?
[11:37] <rumpel> @ Mylisto "route"
[11:37] <rumpel> @ RustAU rightclick
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> !info slapd
[11:37] <Newb`s> Ubuntu 9.04 is out here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:38] <fincan> change channel topic! :)
[11:38] <_g0tmi1k_> so its out?
[11:38] <Mylisto> this is what I got when I type route
[11:38] <RustAU> wtf no netbook remix torrent
[11:38] <Mylisto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156437/
[11:38] <Newb`s> It's out
[11:38] <sponzor> Newb`s what about kubunt?
[11:38] <Newb`s> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:38] <Mylisto> not sure what the default gateway is
[11:38] <Newb`s> sponzor: out too
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install slapd
[11:39] <sponzor> can you geave me the link please
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: try that
[11:39] <Newb`s> sponzor: kubuntu is here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/
[11:39] <sriramoman> why's release taking so much time :(
[11:39] <sponzor> thanks
[11:39] <brinstar> its out
[11:39] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: very well, I'll try it
[11:39] <naxa> Mylisto, should you try "sudo route" without quotes, perhaps
[11:39] <FlyOnThe1all> Mylisto: the Gateway -column is the list of your gateways for different destinations, the default one is clearly stated to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:40] <Mylisto> <IP_ADDRESS> is my linksys router I think...
[11:40] <Rapachooie> i dont get it
[11:40] <Rapachooie> the main page isnt updated
[11:40] <FlyOnThe1all> Mylisto: yup
[11:40] <lucide> how to know when the final version is out? ubuntu.com proposes 8.10 as "the latest version" on their pages.. :P
[11:40] <Rapachooie> im still getting it that 8.10 is latest
[11:40] <naxa> Mylisto, shoudn't that be your gateway?
[11:41] <Mylisto> Basically I am trying to get my gf's win xp machine to connect...dhcp messed up like 2 weeks ago...so I am trying to set up everything with manual ip's, default...but not sure how
[11:41] <Myrtti> !isitout
[11:41] <brinstar> it is out, check the main page link for the rc
[11:41] <Myrtti> brinstar: it's not, stop saying it is
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Rapachooie: sudo updatemanager -d
[11:41] <iceroot> Myrtti: it is
[11:41] <brinstar> why not just check the page and tell me what you think??
[11:41] <lucide> brinstar: RC is not the final release.. ?
[11:41] <Mylisto> would anyone care to walk me through this?
[11:41] <Rapachooie> doesnt seem like it is to me
[11:41] <brinstar> what is that release if not the final version?
[11:42] <Rapachooie> considering the "download" page says that 8.10 is the latest
[11:42] <lucide> RC - release candidate
[11:42] <Myrtti> brinstar, iceroot: do you want me to explain the mechanics of rsync to you, or are you just going to believe it's not released yet?
[11:42] <sriramoman> lucide, RC is the release candidate and not the final release.
[11:42] <lucide> sriramoman: exactly..
[11:42] <tucuna> here is a torrent for 9.05 Final/Full:
[11:42] <tucuna> http://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> why can't people just wait 24 hours more?
[11:42] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: that only installs slapd, which I already have the latest version of
[11:42] <drinkycrow> need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2
[11:42] <aboSamoor> Hi, can you help me ? I want to download a podcast. Rhythmbox is not saving the files by their titles, banshee can not continue downloading [known bug] ?!
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> its so hilarious to watch you all fight to find something that doesnt exist yet
[11:43] <brinstar> Myrtti: then what is the release on that page i mentioned?
[11:43] <tsimpson> don't post links until after the announcement from ubuntu.com
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: ok so whats the problem?
[11:43] <sriramoman> drinkycrow, doom3 is there for linux?
[11:43] <Mylisto> basically I just need to find out what I should make the ip address in my winxp machine
[11:43] <lucide> ActionParsnip: because I've been waiting "just" one week and I really want to get started with the latest *final* version
[11:43] <tsimpson> and I mean the front page of it
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> sriramoman: yep, get the native installer from ID's site and use that with your Doom3 CD, or use WINE
[11:43] <Myrtti> brinstar: it's a file that may or may not be the final version. There might be some changes to it with rsync from the release team, so it may not be the final one
[11:43] <GrimmVarg> hey guys, is there at apple+ubuntu channel somewhere?
[11:43] <tsimpson> Newb`s: join #ubuntu-ops then
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> lucide: your system wont self destruct if it doesnt get jaunty installed right now.
[11:44] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: so the problem is I've configured it, generated certificates, checked the certificates, gone through the file access rights to the certificates and yet I cannot start the slapd service, debug output only says the error is -64
[11:44] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: to be precise: main: TLS init def ctx failed: -64
[11:44] <olivier> so, is it out now?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnThe1all: o idea then dude, not something i use. Is there an irc channel for it, on freenode or another server
[11:45] <FlyOnThe1all> I tried looking for one, but I couldn't find one
[11:45] <drinkycrow> sriramoman: yes, it runs natively on linux
[11:45] <lucide> ActionParsnip: noo.. I just asked how to know when it's out.. if anyone knows.. not that I must have it, I just want to have it
[11:45] <Myrtti> ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party
[11:45] <naxa> Mylisto, also "netstat -nr" has your default gateway with "UG" written in the "FLAG" coloumn
[11:45] <Klau3> do you download the .iso through BitTorrent or ftp?
[11:45] <Myrtti> lucide: it's not out
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> lucide: i'd say in about 24 - 48 hours
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> !isitout | lucide
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: i guess this is flavour of the day huh :(
[11:45] <drinkycrow> if by 'runs on linux' you mean 'hope you really don't want to hear anything'
[11:46] <dundel> haha finally
[11:46] <dundel> it's coming
[11:46] <erUSUL> McPeter: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one
[11:46] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip: yes, and one of the reasons I hate release days
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: huh?
[11:46] <lucide> tnx
[11:46] <Rapachooie> hi all...i have a bunch of photos which are both upper and lower case and windows is recognising them as duplicates... i am trying to find a command or program to rename them to windows compatible format?  - man rename didnt tell me much
[11:46] <wtv> what's the difference between ubuntu CD and DVD installation?
[11:46] <drinkycrow> ActionParsnip: doom 3 runs awesome on ubuntu so long as you don't mind not being able to hear a revenant around the corner with a set of rockets waiting to roast you
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> wtv: dvd has a lot more language support on the disk as well as (i think) the other DEs
[11:47] <trucMuche> erUSUL, what ? oO
[11:47] <zetheroo> how can I update alsa to the latest version? ... I am running 9.04
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: ran perfectly on my system
[11:47] <hadis> anyone can help me about install stellarium-0.10.0
[11:47] <trucMuche> "my winXP" o_O
[11:47] <drinkycrow> what version?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> wtv: but you can get it all once you get installed and online
[11:47] <wtv> ActionParsnip: does it have more optional packages
[11:47] <erUSUL> trucMuche: my bad was for Mylisto ...
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: let me guess....creative soundcard?
[11:47] <FlyOnThe1all> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help tho, I'll see if I can find a more specific channel for slapd
[11:47] <drinkycrow> good call
[11:47] <wtv> ActionParsnip: i intend to install it on PCs not connected
[11:47] <erUSUL> Mylisto: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one
[11:48] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[11:48] <trucMuche> erUSUL, :)
[11:48] <drinkycrow> but i don't see how that's relevant, as everything else has sound
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> wtv: no not really, for a desktop PC in english using a single DE, it has everything you need. I download the DVD ISO as I can't find CD media around me for love nor money
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: do you use a creative soundcard?
[11:49] <looonger> has 9.04 been released yet?
[11:49] <drinkycrow> yes
[11:49] <drinkycrow> it's a creative soundcard
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: wanna know how i knew?
[11:49] <blame> sriramoman its already released
[11:49] <Myrtti> looonger: no
[11:49] <drinkycrow> how?
[11:49] <wtv> ActionParsnip: it doesn't have codecs
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: because their support SUCKS and they are a PITA to setup
[11:49] <drinkycrow> it works with everything else
[11:49] <drinkycrow> and doom3 has sound in windows
[11:49] <sveinse> Hello. Is is possible to spawn a guest session of KDE when running Ubuntu?
[11:50] <drinkycrow> so i cant see how it's creative's fault
[11:50] <sveinse> ...running Gnome that it
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: i use 100% compatible soundcards and have had no issues with any sound ever
[11:50] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: how about laptops?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: creative cant even support windows fully, a guy got sick of their slackness, wrote his own driver and creative threatened to sue
[11:50] <looonger> Myrtti, are isos available to download or is it the previous version?
[11:50] <girdy> thinks that linux should just die
[11:50] <drinkycrow> but it works for everything except doom 3 in ubuntu
[11:50] <FlyOnThe1all> drinkycrow: it's creative fault even tho it works in windows, because Creative makes drivers for windows but not for linux
[11:50] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I mean its not that easy to know what type of SC is in a laptop ...
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: research is key
[11:51] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: hmm
[11:51] <girdy> why doesnt CTRL C work
[11:51] <krychek> where?
[11:51] <girdy> man this is so basic yet there are still bugs in the most simple things
[11:51] <Myrtti> looonger: there might be some isos that might look like they are the final release version, but there might still be some changes to them, so we ask you not to download them yet. the previous versions can be downloaded and used, but patience will get you further
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: there are loads of guides and forums about people with varying latops and will most likely have pasted their lspci, so you can see exactly whats what
[11:51] <LurkersA> in what girdy?
[11:52] <drinkycrow> how is an audio card supposed to develop linux drivers?
[11:52] <drinkycrow> the company rather
[11:52] <drinkycrow> linux sound structure changes every year
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: they make the card, they make the drivers. NVidia have been doing it for ages
[11:52] <erUSUL> drinkycrow: code in C against the alsa kernel subsystem
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: as have intel
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drinkycrow: as have realtek
[11:53] <joaopinto> and this really should go into off-topic :)
[11:53] <zetheroo> erUSUL: :-D
[11:53] <james7493> drinkycrow: They don't have to. There's a bunch of driver developers that have offered to write and maintain drivers for companies that are willing to provide technical information about their hardware.
[11:53] <zetheroo> joaopinto: nah ... there's not much happening anyhow
[11:54] <girdy> lurkersa: linux is terrible man i've lost all faith in it
[11:55] <Athenon_> what time today is jaunty coming out>?
[11:55] <girdy> the file hierarchy is a huge disorganized mess, there's no device manager, there's no real graphics support. period
[11:55] <joaopinto> girdy, do you have a question ? this channel is not for complains
[11:55] <rumpel> !jaunty > Athenon_
[11:55] <nonickname> Athenon_, read the topic of the channel.
[11:55] <Mr_Kaizer> How do I restart X from the terminal?
[11:55] <joaopinto> girdy, you are clearly misinformed
[11:55] <LurkersA> girdy: Were you trying to use CTRL-C in a terminal?
[11:55] <girdy> i'm not complaining, there's a lot that needs to be done to this OS
[11:56] <girdy> no CTRL + SHIFT + C
[11:56] <girdy> but CTRL + C in firefox
[11:56] <looonger> girdy, linux is free so don't complain
[11:56] <james7493> girdy: How come you're here?
[11:56] <kliklik> There's a lot that needs to be done to any OS. IMO they all suck
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> girdy: how many distros have you tried?
[11:56] <girdy> hahaha
[11:56] <LurkersA> girdy: THere is a lot to be done, but what we have is fairly impressive
[11:56] <MrKeishii> Is it possible to change the compiz fusion window size on netbook?
 i've tried fedora and ubuntu
[11:57] <MrKeishii> because it has problems on netbooks
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> girdy: thats not very many to say you hate linux
[11:57] <MrKeishii> using 9.04RCC
[11:57] <looonger> girdy, after 5 years on linux I see no alternative to linux
[11:57] <mgolisch> no the file hoerarchy is great
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> girdy: maybe BSD is more to your tastes
[11:57] <girdy> i never said i hated it
[11:57] <girdy> i said it needs improvements
[11:57] <Phleagor> try archlinux
[11:57] <mgolisch> its clean, its not a mess like on windows
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> looonger: pretty much the same here
[11:57] <girdy> which i will eventually write in code and give to all of you
[11:57] <girdy> leaving my mark on the open source world
[11:57] <joaopinto> ppl can we move the what linux needs to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:57] <kliklik> that's the spirit :)
[11:58] <james7493> girdy: There's actually an improvement coming out today that you might've heard something about...
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> girdy: give fedora a try, its got pretty sweet support
[11:58] <Vezir> soit IS today
[11:58] <girdy> ActionParsnip: aiight i will
[11:58] <looonger> girdy, graphics support sucks, that's true
[11:58] <Vezir> the "don't ask when" is an hour type thing, not a SHIT WE COULDNT FINISH IT
[11:58] <Vezir> thing
[11:58] <joaopinto> girdy, your overall statement is clearly misinformed, but please keep this channel for support
[11:58] <girdy> james7493: u mean jaunty or something more specific?
[11:58] <marko_d> hi
[11:59] <marko_d> when will ubuntu torrent be pushed out?
[11:59] <james7493> girdy: Yeah, Jaunty.
[11:59] <marko_d> like in 1-2 hours or ?
[11:59] <tsimpson> !language | Vezir
[11:59] <Vezir> oh whoops, sorry, shoulda figuredthat out
[11:59] <r3c0n> ubuntu 9.04 is scheduled for release today, isnt it?
[11:59] <_Sih> yes
[11:59] <Vezir> anyways i was worried that t would become ubuntu 9.0fornever
[11:59] <joaopinto> r3c0n, yes, but it's not out yet, don't ask for the time
[11:59] <tigerwolf> join #ubuntu-party
[11:59] <marko_d> yeah, but which time
[12:00] <JackWinter> anyone know what version of nfs is in ubuntu 8.04 nfs3 or nfs4 ?
[12:00] <asasd> Happy Ubunting :D
[12:00] <asasd> Geissbock
[12:00] <asasd> Avatar von Geissbock
[12:00] <asasd> Anmeldungsdatum:
[12:00] <FloodBot2> asasd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:00] <asasd> 4. Juni 2007
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[12:00] <TychoQuad> Are we allowed to talk about Jaunty in here yet?
[12:00] <ossud> when can i download 9.04?
[12:00] <ossud> xD
[12:00] <ziroday> TychoQuad: ossud #ubuntu-release-party
[12:00] <r3c0n> joaopinto: ok, im not five you know :)
[12:01] <r3c0n> DAD! ARE WE THERE YET?
[12:01] <r3c0n> ;)
[12:01] <joaopinto> ;)
[12:01] <TychoQuad> ziroday, i'm not here to celebrate, i'm here to sort an issue :P
[12:01] <bibstha> lol
[12:01] <bibstha> but why ? is it being doen for throttling?
[12:01] <Foor> 9.04
[12:01] <Madpilot> bibstha, is what being done for throttling?
[12:02] <geoaxis> what time is 9.04 expected today, if its being released today
[12:02] <krychek> whats the point in upgrading as soon as it's out? it will be slooow to download
[12:02] <chronicpirate> t minus +45 ish
[12:02] <tsimpson> geoaxis: there is no exact time, join #ubuntu-release party to wait it out
[12:02] <chronicpirate> that's a clever joke if you can catch it
[12:02] <bibstha> Madpilot, hehe nevermind
[12:02] <chronicpirate> or wait minus -45
[12:03] <geoaxis> krychek:  if more people put it on bittorent , it will be not a problem
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> krychek: many systems have 200Kg of thermit above them, the bomb will run uname -c at midnight, if it doesnt see jaunty, the systems will melt so they need jaunty now now now
[12:03] <tsimpson> erm that's #ubuntu-release-party
[12:03] <chronicpirate> geoaxis: it is gonna be on bit torrent
[12:03] <sveinse> Non-9.04-question: How do I start a second KDE guest session, when running Gnome?  It seems guest session simply spawns a new Gnome session.  Is is possible?
[12:03] <chronicpirate> and when it's offically released you'll be glad to see how many seeds will magically be there :p
[12:03] <r3c0n> will ubuntu 9.04 be lts?
[12:03] <tsimpson> no
[12:03] <chronicpirate> nope
[12:04] <geoaxis> chronicpirate:  yeah i know ... krychek was complaining about slow download speeds
[12:04] <chronicpirate> 10.04 I belive is next
[12:04] <krychek> geoaxis: you cant upgrade using torrent.. unless you reinstall the whole stuff
[12:04] <[1]kino> hi, everybody. Why can't I see videos when I run the Ubuntu 8.04 live cd?
[12:04] <chronicpirate> like any vidoes?
[12:04] <geoaxis> krychek:  you cannnot upgrade with CD?
[12:04] <pspsampsp_> u can use alternate install to upgrade
[12:04] <chronicpirate> you might need to install the proper codecs
[12:04] <zetheroo> what time is 9.04 being released?
[12:04] <joaopinto> [1]kino, because you dont have the proprietary codecs ?
[12:04] <whattey> when its done
[12:04] <chronicpirate> for like divx
[12:04] <pspsampsp_> ill get the link
[12:04] <whattey> \o/
[12:05] <nonickname> zetheroo, join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:05] <chronicpirate> there are nice generica packs out
[12:05] <chronicpirate> apt-cache search video codecs
[12:05] <r3c0n> what motivates you guys to label a distro LTS? is it how stable you feel that it is?
[12:05] <chronicpirate> can't remember what its' called but it will hook you up
[12:05] <[1]kino> chronicpirate the answer was for me?
[12:05] <chronicpirate> yeah
[12:05] <irmandos> !isitout | zetheroo
[12:05] <chronicpirate> it was
[12:05] <krychek> geoaxis: with alternative cd yes.. but i dont think most ppl are doing it that way
[12:05] <joaopinto> r3c0n, no, it's is a predefined support schedule
[12:05] <r3c0n> i was under the imperssion that all .04's were LTS
[12:05] <chronicpirate> every other?
[12:05] <[1]kino> how can I install the codecs while running the live cd?
[12:05] <r3c0n> ah joapinto, so the next LTS will be 10.04 ?
[12:05] <chronicpirate> it might even be every three years
[12:06] <r3c0n> joaopinto*
[12:06] <chronicpirate> yes
[12:06] <sveinse> Wow... People aren't talking about anything else than the release :o
[12:06] <chronicpirate> it wil be
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> [1]kino: same as you would in an installd system
[12:06] <DJones> r3c0n: LTS are every 18 months
[12:06] <MrStatic> Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | [1]kino
[12:06] <r3c0n> are .04's more stable than .10's ?
[12:06] <joaopinto> r3c0n, as far as I know yes
[12:06] <joaopinto> r3c0n, no
[12:06] <[1]kino> ubottu, so what should I install?
[12:06] <joaopinto> they have the same development cycle
[12:06] <Madpilot> r3c0n, there's no difference
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> r3c0n: i guess it varys from system to system
[12:07] <joaopinto> the S on LTS is not about stability, is about support
[12:07] <krychek> r3c0n: who said LTS means more stable? it means only its supported for a longer period of time..
[12:07] <r3c0n> i know its about support
[12:07] <r3c0n> long term support. i get it but its always the .04's that get the LTS
[12:07] <r3c0n> i guess that also has to do with fact that someone said its every 18 months
[12:07] <r3c0n> and since its every 6 months that we get a new version
[12:07] <r3c0n> then it will always be .04
[12:07] <bibstha> its been released!! yeppie
[12:07] <bibstha> official announcement done
[12:07] <joaopinto> r3c0n, right
[12:07] <bibstha> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[12:08] <FloodBot2> bibstha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:08] <krychek> r3c0n: there are 3 non-lts releases between every lts
[12:08] <r3c0n> o
[12:08] <JPSman> Hey everybody.  What is a good C IDE for gutsy?  I was toying with a kdevelop on a virtual KDE (slackware) and it looked GOOD.  I just want to know what's a good one for ubuntu?
[12:08] <rm```> JPSman: eclipse
[12:08] <tsimpson> bibstha: not it has not
[12:08] <joaopinto> bibstha, was not
[12:08] <rm```> and CDT
[12:08] <r3c0n> so since 8.04 had lts, 8.10 wont, and neither will 9.04 or 9.10. yeah so pretty much only .04's will have LTS
[12:08] <bibstha> hehe just testing.. u guys..
[12:09] <joaopinto> JPSman, code::blocks, don't know if there is a package for gutsy
[12:09] <erUSUL> JPSman: Anjuta is the rough equivalent
[12:09] <zaggynl> hmm, 3MB/s
[12:09] <r3c0n> where you guys dling from?
[12:09] <zaggynl> ♥ them quick mirrors
[12:09] <zaggynl> some dutch ubuntu mirror
[12:09] <JPSman> rm```, joaopinto, erUSUL - THANK YOU :OD
[12:10] <rm```> JPSman: sudo apt-get install eclipse-cdt if you want a fancy package, I prefer to download it directly from the website
[12:10] <JPSman> are the archives down right now?
[12:11] <to3000> what time dose 9.04 come out
[12:11] <Newb`s> !topic @ to3000
[12:11] <Newb`s> :D
[12:12] <aboyousif> jaunty should be released now, right ?!
[12:12] <finaltune> were is the release party?
[12:12] <zcat[1]> the last daily is pretty-much it anyhow.. previous releases ISTR the daily from the day before even had the same md5sum
[12:12] <tsimpson> !jaunty
[12:12] <aguitel> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/
[12:12] <krychek> to3000: it will be released only tomorrow
[12:12] <finaltune> no
[12:12] <finaltune> d
[12:12] <finaltune> today
[12:12] <r3c0n> is this the final stable version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[12:12] <pyxi> i know the release is today but does any body know what time today ?
[12:12] <tsimpson> r3c0n: no
[12:12] <Alfrenovsky> if it's not out yet, why http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ URLS doesn't incude any RC
[12:13] <tsimpson> stop posting links
[12:13] <Myrtti> ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party
[12:13] <tsimpson> it's not out
[12:13] <pspsampsp__> get ubuntu 9.04 at releases.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <r3c0n> are you tricking me to take all the bandwidth? :P
[12:13] <r3c0n> lulz.. ok ill cancel this one
[12:13] <JPSman> hrm - having problems with add/remove and synaptic finding necessary packages.  Is that because everyone is focusing on 9.04?
[12:13] <Alfrenovsky> Myrtti, Ok, sorry for posting the url, I'm asking why the files in this URL hace no "rc"
[12:14] <brinstar> yes id like to know why also
[12:15] <DJones> JPSman: Its probably that people are hitting the servers looking for 9.04 causing time outs etc
[12:15] <JPSman> DJones: greeaat.  Thanks anyway :OD  Still using 7.10 myself
[12:15] <brinstar> can someone unban me from ubuntu-release-party? i didnt know i couldnt post links
[12:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> is there a command line client to bring a window to the front? I would like to make a script that opens an already existing alltray client
[12:15] <Extend> JPSman, 7.10 reached end of lifetime
[12:16] <JPSman> Extend: what does that mean?
[12:16] <Myrtti> Alfrenovsky, brinstar: while the files on $URL might be not named as "RC"s, there still might be some changes to them with rsync. The files are named as they are so that the mirrors could get the files before the release. Please do not download those files yet and give the mirrors a chance first.
[12:16] <DJones> !eol | JPSman
[12:16] <Extend> JPSman, that means you are not receiving updates
[12:16] <Myrtti> Alfrenovsky, brinstar did that explain it at all?
[12:17] <brinstar> Myrtti: in other words, theres a strong likelihood that those are the final isos?
[12:17] <[1]kino> i'm new to linux, so please excuse my ignorance. I am running the live cd with ubuntu 8.04. If I install a codec, after I remove the live cd, meaning I close the session, will the codec "be there" next time I run the live cd? It stays installed in the computer?
[12:17] <krychek> [1]kino: no
[12:17] <holdenss> no
[12:17] <james7493> brinstar: We all get it quicker if the mirrors get it first.
[12:18] <Matr|X> hello
[12:18] <inaeternum> the livecd doesn't touch your computer unless you choose to install
[12:18] <[1]kino> krychek: so every time i run the live cd and i want to see a video, I'll need to reinstall the codec again?
[12:18] <Matr|X> help me with lamp-server
[12:18] <Alfrenovsky> Myrtti. Ok. i'll wait, anyway no one should download the isos directly. Torrent is a best option So we all can share bandwith
[12:18] <DaveCo> !release
[12:18] <Myrtti> brinstar: might be, might not, I'm not the release master so I wouldn't know. I strongly recommend you *NOT* to download anything yet so the mirrors will get a chance first
[12:18] <DaveCo> !jaunty
[12:18] <Alfrenovsky> Matr|X, What do you need with LAMP ?
[12:18] <Matr|X> i had unstall lamp-server and when i install it agine now :S its not working
[12:19] <JPSman> What will the next LTS be?
[12:19] <Matr|X> ah thex alfenovsky
[12:19] <Spikius> if i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net
[12:19] <inaeternum> does ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?
[12:19] <brinstar> 10.04 JPSman
[12:19] <Spikius> if i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net | ns identify pass | join #chan?
[12:19] <Spikius> sorry for a flood :)
[12:19] <Matr|X> here wht is the problem when i do the commands sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[12:19] <brinstar> 6.06 > 8.04 > 10.04
[12:20] <joaopinto> Spikius, we don't support mirc here
[12:20] <Spikius> :)
[12:20] <Matr|X> its stopped  in 79 % with Configuring mysql-server-5.0
[12:20] <Moonlit> brinstar - I thought you were listing your favourite versions for a sec there lol
[12:20] <joaopinto> Spikius, do you mean x-chat script ? try the xchat channel
[12:20] <Matr|X> plz help me
[12:20] <Spikius> no, i mean mirc :), im currently logged on into windows
[12:20] <Matr|X> i came yestrday and i some one told me its stringes
[12:20] <Alfrenovsky> Matr|X, can't understand what is exactly your problem.
[12:20] <krychek> [1]kino: some codecs are already installed by default but you are right otherwise.. vlc doesnt need codecs i dont know if its on the live cd
[12:21] <inaeternum> it's not
[12:21] <inaeternum> totem is
[12:21] <maijkkk> Does anyone know where I can get information about when Kubuntu will be released?
[12:21] <krychek> tomorrow
[12:21] <[1]kino> krychek: so to watch a video with the live cd, I need to reinstall the codecs every time again
[12:21] <jiffe1> hmm
[12:21] <jiffe1> what time does mcd's open
[12:21] <FlyOnThe1all> jiffe1: check their websites
[12:21] <Mylisto> 630 m
[12:21] <Mylisto> am
[12:22] <Mylisto> I think
[12:22] <inaeternum> [1]kino: you have to, unless they are pre-installed (like Theora)
[12:22] <brinstar> 10.04 is my favourite version
[12:22] <jiffe1> yeah, I'm not finding it on their site
[12:22] <JPSman> If I jump from 7.10 to 9.04, what should I expect?  What do i need to back up?
[12:22] <[1]kino> krychek: can I install vlc in every live cd session?
[12:22] <krychek> [1]kino: live cd wont "remember" any changes after each reboot... maybe you should use a pendrive linux instead
[12:23] <inaeternum> does somebodyknow if ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?
[12:23] <brinstar> JPSman: expect a faster system
[12:24] <JPSman> sure sure, but, what things will change?  will my desktop erase or will my icons be there?  will I have to install all my apps again?
[12:25] <brinstar> depends, not sure
[12:25] <Fethi> hi
[12:26] <Kruxer> !ubuntu
[12:26] <MaT-dg> JPSman: hope for the best, prepare for the worst: ALWAYS make a backup of important documents.
[12:26] <nixz> wow 1612 nicks
[12:27] <Matr|X> ye[
[12:27] <JPSman> I just dont want to have to wrastle with my nvidia drivers again :OP
[12:28] <Homre> Hello all, i have a little question about how to install a NVIDIA driver. I've been trying to install the 3 version that you can find under"restricted drivers available". But whenever i install it, and reboot my computer i can't load the GUI of ubuntu. I've also been reading up about this, but i can't seem to get the drivers working right. Any help possible?
[12:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> are there packages for multi-pointer X in some ubuntu unofficial repository?
[12:29] <Homre> I'm also very new to ubuntu, so please take contact in a private room if you have any suggestions about what i can do.
[12:29] <kbingham> how do i get the 9.04 release upgrade? do i have to run apt-get separately, its not showing any upgrade. Is it just not released through the package manager yet?
[12:29] <dn4> Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be?
[12:30] <rubaha> привет
[12:30] <Vezir> is anyone here in seattle? we should have a release party.
[12:30] <glyj> Homre : did you had a look at the wiki ?
[12:30] <JPSman> a yes a release party
[12:30] <tsimpson> !jaunty
[12:30] <dn4> !topic
[12:30] <Spikius> kbingham then it will be out, you will be offered to upgrade
[12:30] <Spikius> or you can simply run "dist-upgrade"
[12:30] <mattseh> im grabbing it now via torrent :)
[12:30] <dn4>  Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion in #ubuntu+1 | Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be
[12:31] <Spikius> mattgyver as i know its still the RC1 or smth like that via torrents
[12:31] <Spikius> 9.04 its not out yet
[12:31] <mattseh> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ - seems final to me?
[12:31] <tsimpson> mattseh: no, it's not
[12:32] <mattseh> RC?
[12:32] <Spikius> yup
[12:32] <Spikius> its just been renamed :)
[12:32] <tsimpson> when you see the announcement on the *front page* of ubuntu.com, then you know
[12:32] <mattseh> if it's been renamed, then it is likely to become the release version?
[12:32] <tsimpson> no
[12:33] <koshar1> it is out now
[12:33] <tsimpson> don't download anything until the announcement
[12:33] <progre55> hi everybody! when is the ubuntu 9.04 coming out?
[12:33] <tsimpson> !jaunty
[12:33] <tsimpson> it's not out yet, just wait
[12:33] <Myrtti> ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party
[12:33] <koshar1> 9.04 its out now, it may just take time for some of the mirrors to catch up
[12:33] <zaggynl> :o
[12:33] <shauno> when you see laptops & bearded geeks in pubs, you'll know it's time
[12:33] <mattseh> heh
[12:33] <sidewalk> it is released
[12:34] <zaggynl> but it's available on a mirror
[12:34] <sidewalk> update-manager says there is a new version available
[12:34] <sidewalk> or?
[12:35] <koshar1> its wise to wait a little of use the torrent otherwise the mirrors get knocked around a bit
[12:35] <Spikius> of course :)
[12:35] <fabzor3> hi
[12:35] <fabzor3> im trying to change my console resoultion
[12:35] <Shortyyy> hi, does anyone knoow if Ubuntu 9.04 i out today? I notice the countdown on the site has stopped
[12:36] <fabzor3> im just wondering how to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[12:36] <peti> hy
[12:36] <Spikius> !jaunty
[12:36] <peti> hello
[12:36] <Shortyyy> thanks!
[12:36] <georgi> hi all
[12:36] <drinkycrow> never count out installing random sound libraries until something works
[12:36] <Spikius> fabzor3... well.. you can either use 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[12:36] <fabzor3> cos it says dont uncomment the linuc bu/boot/grub/menu.lst cos it say dont uncomment but if thats the case where do i make the change
[12:37] <mr_frostee> I just checked the site.  9.04 doesn't appear to be available yet.
[12:37] <fabzor3> yeah its cool i can edit it fine
[12:37] <koshar1> when will ubottu be updated?
[12:37] <zaggynl> main site worked for me
[12:37] <Spikius> or you can install startupmanager > does more or less everything
[12:37] <fabzor3> im just wondering about the way i should edit it
[12:37] <koshar1> mr_frostee depends where you look
[12:37] <fabzor3> hmm cool thanks i might try installing startupmanager
[12:37] <mr_frostee> 9.04 RC has been working good for me, except flash in firefox still doesn't work.
[12:38] <SPF> fabzor3: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/archtoad6-147095/2007/12/29/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-and-lilo-830/
[12:38] <gachiman111> join #ubuntu-release-part
[12:38] <Shortyyy> thanks everyone :)
[12:38] <fabzor3> SPF: thanks looking now :D
[12:38] <Mylisto> now you guys are getting me interested in using Jaunty...
[12:38] <Mylisto> whats up with the notebook editions?
[12:39] <gachiman111> join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:40] <MarkJones> Doesnt seem to be #ubuntu-release-part
[12:40] <nshepperd> seems to me the official ubuntu.com download page should push bittorrent harder
[12:40] <nshepperd> "#ubuntu-release-party"
[12:40] <MarkJones> sorry got cut off. Cant find it though
[12:41] <Master-Mind> Hey someone there have tried the new 9.04 ?
[12:41] <nshepperd> the download servers always get whacked...
[12:41] <nshepperd> I'm using it now
[12:41] <acr0nym> hello
[12:41] <MarkJones> I have the Jaunty-RC installed and using right now.
[12:41] <nshepperd> have been since alpha 4
[12:42] <acr0nym> I have a little problem, just installed easytag, but the windows is too big for my screen (eeepc) and I cannot make it smaller
[12:42] <acr0nym> any ideas?
[12:42] <MarkJones> acrOnym have you tried holding ALT key and moving window around to resize etc?
[12:43] <rubaha> привет
[12:43] <acr0nym> I can move it around I can change the horizontal size, but not the vertical size
[12:43] <acr0nym> so I'm missing about the third of the window
[12:44] <lizzzzard> acr0nym: there is also a script/config hint on one of the wiki sites about allowing programs to switch to fullscreen using alt+f11, I believe. this could help
[12:44] <rubaha> здесь на русском?
[12:44] <acr0nym> thanks, I'll look into it
[12:44] <MarkJones> acr0nym: I just installed easytag and it seems fine on mine.You have all updates?
[12:45] <Mr_Kaizer> rubaha: #ubuntu-ru
[12:45] <acr0nym> I'm on rc release of jaunty and I installed it with sudo apt-get install easytag
[12:45] <lizzzzard> acr0nym: tell me if something works, inkscape does a similar thing for me
[12:45] <acr0nym> I have version 2.1.4
[12:45] <acr0nym> lizzzzard, will do
[12:45] <phix> how long now?
[12:45] <lizzzzard> thx
[12:45] <MarkJones> Who knows
[12:45] <kalib> the 9.04 will be released today?
[12:45] <phix> yeah
[12:45] <MarkJones> yes today
[12:46] <nshepperd> phix: about 3 meters
[12:46] <phix> it is 21:45 on THursday here :)
[12:46] <phix> it will be Friday soon, they better hurry up :P
[12:46] <_kal_> kalib: ubuntu 9.04 is already released
[12:46] <phix> :D
[12:46] <debsan> 8 :46 am here
[12:46] <phix> _kal_: where/
[12:47] <jingjing> ubuntu is now realese?
[12:47] <kalib> _kal_, I mean the final one...
[12:47] <debsan> thursday just begins
[12:47] <zykes-> _kal_: where is it ?
[12:47] <nebjakSRB> http://rs.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[12:48] <nebjakSRB> final?
[12:48] <iceroot> nebjakSRB: look at the date from the torrent
[12:48] <_kal_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:48] <iceroot> nebjakSRB: its from tooday
[12:48] <jingjing> http://mirror1.ku.ac.th/jaunty/ <-- this is jaunty realese?
[12:48] <tsimpson> jingjing: no, and don't post links
[12:48] <ziroday> jingjing: no
[12:48] <phix> nshepperd: :D metric! yay
[12:49] <jingjing> tsimpson: zirodaythankyou
[12:49] <MrKeishii> in american version of the ubuntu site it is not released yet
[12:49] <abchirk> ehm why I can create with mkfs.ext4 ext4 partitions when I can't use them... mount /dev/sda2 new -> unknown file system type ext4! :(
[12:49]  * jingjing wait time for realese
[12:49] <phix> what does ext4 provide that ext3 doesn't?
[12:50] <phix> because the increment version number
[12:50] <phix> because = besides
[12:50] <phix> typos
[12:50] <lizzzzard> !isitout | jingjing
[12:50] <Oli``> phix: some things are a lot faster
[12:50] <ziroday> phix: its faster, unbelievable fsck times and other stuffs
[12:50] <abchirk> phix I read about better performance
[12:50] <X-TaZ> phix : there is a good page on wikipedia about it
[12:50] <MarkJones> ext4 : http://www.linfo.org/ext4fs.html
[12:50] <X-TaZ> Yes, performance improved
[12:50] <|ns|nR8> how long till its official and all the repos go down
[12:51] <xarvh> is xubuntu also ready?
[12:51] <ziroday> |ns|nR8: before midnight samoan time
[12:51] <abchirk> But what can I do that my intrepid mounts my ext4
[12:51] <ziroday> !isitout | xarvh
[12:51] <Spikius> hmz is the any 9.04 official banner?
[12:51] <abchirk> I want to debootstrap debian on it. :)
[12:51] <Pici> !party
[12:51] <pawel_> how to minimize fullscreen game?
[12:52] <jingjing>
[12:52] <Spikius> xexexe
[12:52] <acr0nym> I haven't found a way to fix it, but alt+moving works fine for now :)
[12:52] <Spikius> lithuania still wins in most release partys
[12:52] <progre55> oh, is there any cool games under ubuntu??
[12:52] <progre55> other than cards and stuff :)
[12:52] <Oli``> progre55: yes, quite a few
[12:52] <FlyOnThe1all> my personal favourite is bsd-tetris
[12:52] <MarkJones> Looks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in  in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.
[12:52] <xarvh> thanks
[12:53] <lizzzzard> acr0nym: thanks for coming back to tell us anyway
[12:53] <MrKeishii> yeah there are alot of games
[12:53] <progre55> no, I mean, more advanced ones, not tetris :)
[12:53] <Spikius> progre55 there is a LOTS of games..
[12:53] <MrKeishii> lol
[12:53] <penguin> is there huge differences between ext3 and etx4?.
[12:53] <Oli``> progre55: lots of FPSes but WorldOfGoo is excellent if you've got a few spare quid
[12:53] <Pici> !party
[12:53] <progre55> Spikius, can you suggest me any, please? )
[12:53] <kees-> hm, partman doesn't detect my harddisk; but fdisk (and the kernel etc does).. is there any way i can manually do the things partman does, and skip over it to 'install the base system'
[12:53] <xC> at what time will 9.04 be released?
[12:53] <Spikius> from Quake and other shooters till .. rpg, rts..
[12:53] <Matr|X> party wher and when:D
[12:53] <Matr|X> (H)
[12:53] <lizzzzard> progre55: there are some fine games like sauerbraten -- also many windows games run under wine.
[12:53] <Matr|X> i love party d
[12:53] <MarkJones> penguin: Looks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in  in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.
[12:53] <Pici> !isitout | xC
[12:53] <|ns|nR8> is there an ubuntu party room ?
[12:53] <|ns|nR8> cheers
[12:54] <Spikius> well.. one of my favorites is OpedTTD (its Transport Tycoon Deluxe rewriten and optimized to be a bit realistic)
[12:54] <progre55> Oli``, lizzzzard, thanks guys, I'll try them  =now :)
[12:54] <lizzzzard> progre55: there are some linux games list out there. if you tell us a genre maybe we can think of something specific
[12:54] <sponzor> can you run cisco vpn client on kubuntu?
[12:54] <JPSman> will the update manager be able to take me from 7.10 to 9.04 ???
[12:54] <xarvh> progre55: http://www.happypenguin.org/ but right now is down
[12:55] <lizzzzard> |ns|nR8: #ubuntu-release-party
[12:55] <|ns|nR8> thanks lizzzzard
[12:55] <Oli``> progre55: if you open up add/remove and look in the games section, you can sort the games by order of popularity to get an idea of which games are... erm... most popular
[12:55] <MarkJones> JPSman why not just download the ISO so you wont have to download the updates again if needed later?
[12:55] <dantalizing> sponzor: yes you want the network-manager-vpnc package
[12:55] <progre55> Oli``, thanks man, appreciate! )
[12:55] <xarvh> how do I allow a secondary user to install programs but without allowing any other root privilege?
[12:55] <progre55> lizzzzard, smth like counter strike, or online strategy games
[12:56] <Spikius> xarvh > sudo ?!
[12:56] <p-f> What's the usual culprit when having battery life issues? I get about 2 hours of battery on linux, 6.5 on windows...
[12:56] <JPSman> MarkJones: because i dont want to do a whole other install - what about the alternate ISO, could I go from 7.10 to 9.04 that way?
[12:56] <xarvh> Spikius: do I have to play with sudoers?
[12:56] <xarvh> Spikius: and enable just apt-get is enough?
[12:56] <MarkJones> yeah sudo but admin need to be behind the user for password.But yeah that works.
[12:56] <phix> lizzzzard: it isn't releases yet? but it is in releases.ubuntu.org, or is that the rc?
[12:56] <phix> hmmm well it isnt marked as being rc
[12:57] <JPSman> phix - no its there
[12:57] <Oli``> p-f: not having the right chipset drivers installed. Ubuntu needs to know how to scale your CPU, HDs, etc... If it doesn't have the drivers (or doesn't have them enabled) it won't be able to save power effectively
[12:57] <MrKeishii> when will it be released in america?
[12:57] <Spikius> xarvh dont know exactly, bet lets say userB have to install something, so he has to have ability to run apt-get, dpkg maybe.. ant have access to sudo..
[12:57] <p-f> Oli``: is there a page with a list?
[12:57] <lizzzzard> phix no, final is not out yet
[12:57] <berkes> MrKeishii: /topic?
[12:57] <Spikius> but i cant say for sure
[12:57] <mib_7ppdsi> could somebody here help me with a problem i have with ubuntu 8.10?
[12:57] <phix> JPSman: talk to lizzzzard
[12:57] <dekkong> !ubuntu
[12:57] <Oli``> p-f: it really depends on the specific hardware, but if you google for "<your laptop model> ubuntu" you should find somebody else with the same problem
[12:57] <MarkJones> MrKeishii: When will hwta be released in amaerica?
[12:57] <p-f> Oli``: alright, thanks
[12:57] <MarkJones> what*
[12:58] <phix> MarkJones: your mum
[12:58] <lizzzzard> progre55: also maybe you like nexuiz
[12:58] <phix> MarkJones: what else could it be
[12:58] <abchirk> hm I have the intrepid kernel and it seems that the kernel doesn't provide ext4 maybe I have to load a modul for it?
[12:58] <JPSman> lizzzzard: but i'm torrenting it now . . . ?
[12:58] <phix> abchirk: maybe that is a bad idea
[12:58] <lizzzzard> JPSman: it says on the release notes page
[12:58] <dfs> how to install softwaref rom the ubuntu cd
[12:58] <Guest86118> hi
[12:58] <progre55> lizzzzard, cool, I'll try it now :) thanks man
[12:58] <MarkJones> Well you have to like live under a rock to like not know. Ubuntu.com is worldwide not just US.
[12:58] <Oli``> p-f: there are lists, but they're not very well maintained. You'll likely have better luck finding a specific how-to about your laptop (if it's popular) or other people asking for help on the forums if it's less popular
[12:58] <lizzzzard> JPSman: about updating.
[12:58] <MarkJones> stupid freaking people.
[12:58] <JPSman> lizzzzard: thank you :OD
[12:58] <Spikius> abchirk you thing that "havving" kernel is enough? :)
[12:58] <Pici> !isitout | MarkJones
[12:59] <Pici> !party
[12:59] <abchirk> phix If you do not like it... don't use it
[12:59] <lizzzzard> progre55: that'd be 'mam instead of man ;)
[12:59] <comair> hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?
[12:59] <Spikius> kernel only brings you support for a ext4
[12:59] <phix> abchirk: I dont use it
[12:59] <lizzzzard> progre55: or whatever americans say
[12:59] <abchirk> Spikius hehe no... just wondering how can I get support for this filesystem?
[12:59] <phix> abchirk: for that reson
[12:59] <MarkJones> That darn bot needs some new AI
[12:59] <kandinsk1> preferred hex editor for changing text strings in a program?
[12:59] <lizzzzard> JPSman: what you are downloading is likely the release candidate or a fake.
[12:59] <Guest86118> do i need to setup any AV's or spyware on my linux installation?
[13:00] <kandinsk1> I have the source but I can't make it compile, so I am going for the dirty approach
[13:00] <rumpel> @guest why?
[13:00] <Pici> Guest86118: Not unless you're hosting files for Windows users and want to be extra secure.