[01:04] <DaveMorri1> hey gang.  What age gorups is edubuntu aimed at?
[01:04] <LaserJock> pretty much everything
[01:04] <DaveMorri1> I'm jsut wondering if its suitable for my other 1/2's nursery
[01:05] <LaserJock> could be, what ages?
[01:05] <DaveMorri1> 6months (a tad young for computers) to pre-school so 5 I think
[01:05] <LaserJock> that
[01:06] <LaserJock> is fairly young
[01:06] <DaveMorri1> the 6 months or the 5?
[01:06] <LaserJock> well, both kinda
[01:06] <LaserJock> I've heard of kids as young as 18 months on Edubuntu
[01:07] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure how much they get out of it
[01:07] <DaveMorri1> they have a couple of machines which they play basic games like bob the builder on
[01:07] <DaveMorri1> well I'll download it and see what she thinks, as she's the one that workers there
[01:07] <LaserJock> yeah, just try it out
[01:08] <LaserJock> I'm guessing gcompris would be the app you'd be most interested
[01:08] <DaveMorri1> cheers
[05:52] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:57] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[05:58] <sbalneav> Hey LaserJock
[05:59] <sbalneav> rhythmbox + jamendo support = awesome.
[05:59] <LaserJock> what's jamendo?
[05:59] <sbalneav> Dude.
[05:59] <sbalneav> DUDE!!!
[06:00] <LaserJock> what?
[06:00] <sbalneav> I just discovered it 2 days ago
[06:00] <sbalneav> it's awesome
[06:00] <LaserJock> so I've heard :)
[06:00] <sbalneav> an entire site full of CC licensed music
[06:00] <sbalneav> Do you use rhythmbox at all?
[06:00] <LaserJock> not really
[06:00] <LaserJock> but if I had something to listen to I might
[06:01] <sbalneav> ok
[06:01] <sbalneav> do this
[06:01] <LaserJock> I use rhythmbox when I listen to music
[06:01] <sbalneav> (gimme a sec to find the bits>
[06:01] <LaserJock> I just don't listen to a lot of music
[06:01] <sbalneav> RB -> edit -> plugins
[06:02] <sbalneav> check off "jamendo"
[06:02] <sbalneav> Now, it should show up on the channels area.
[06:02] <sbalneav> Browse something you like (me, I like folk, plus I'm kind of getting into house/trace/ambient)
[06:02] <sbalneav> Start playing.
[06:02] <sbalneav> and if you like it
[06:03] <LaserJock> hah, RB has a python console
[06:03] <sbalneav> CLICK ON THE "DOWNLOAD" BUTTON!
[06:03] <sbalneav> It's awsome
[06:03] <LaserJock> *everything* has a python console these days
[06:03] <sbalneav> Everything should have a python console :)
[06:04] <sbalneav> Plus, I've yet to win against gnuchess
[06:04] <sbalneav> even on easy,
[06:04] <sbalneav> ;(
[06:08] <LaserJock> wow, 1873 artists
[10:17] <LinuxProbie> can someone post the link for setting up an ATI radeon in ubuntu?
[10:17] <cbx33> Hi LinuxProbie
[10:19] <LinuxProbie> Hallo CBX33
[12:12] <cbx33> hi people.....I've just totally forgotten, where is the gnome splash stored?
[12:12] <cbx33> ogra?
[12:15] <highvoltage> cbx33: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[01:04] <cbx33> thanks highvoltage
[01:04] <cbx33> w00t
[01:04] <cbx33> stgedubuntu v1.0 is pretty much complete
[01:07] <highvoltage> what does the stg stand for?
[01:11] <ajmitch> hey cbx33, highvoltage
[01:12] <highvoltage> hey there ajmitch
[01:19] <cbx33> st george
[01:19] <cbx33> hi ajmitch
[01:20] <cbx33> if I was using reconstructor to remaster the edubuntu live cd......and I installed the flash plugins
[01:20] <cbx33> am I right in thinking I couldn't then copy and distribute the cd
[01:23] <highvoltage> cbx33: I think you may re-distribute the flash plugin, as long as you display the license before installing
[01:23] <highvoltage> cbx33: best is to check the flash plugins license
[01:25] <cbx33> ok
[01:25] <cbx33> so a firefox popup about the flash license?
[01:28] <highvoltage> I think it needs to be displaid /before/ the flash plugin is installed. I don't know how strict they are on that.
[01:28] <highvoltage> if you're running firefox and the plugin is already loaded, that might count as being installed
[01:29] <anestis> #edulinux
[01:31] <juliux> anestis, hust another irc channel without topic and traffic?
[01:31] <juliux> s/just/hust
[01:31] <cbx33> ok highvoltage
[01:43] <finalbeta> Starting for what age would Edubuntu be appropriate?
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lower primary i suspect
[01:44] <jsgotangco> even preschool kids can use it with gcompris
[01:48] <ogra> highvoltage, you cant distribute flash without allowance from adobe ... the license you agree to in the package is a download license ... not one that covers distribution
[01:49] <rockprincess> finalbeta: my students at the moment are about 16-17 years old
[02:09] <highvoltage> ouch
[03:07] <bddebian> Heya
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[03:07] <bddebian> Hi Kamping_Kaiser
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> bddebian, hi, hows it going?\
[03:08] <bddebian> OK, thanks.  You?
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> pretty good, tired, but getting some work done for once :)
[03:11] <bddebian> Nice :-)
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh :) trying to build one mac desktop out of two - i'm trying to put a not-apple-certified pci-64 card in it though. *is hoping...* :)
[03:15] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> gmornin
[03:16] <cliebow_> Scottie!!!!!!!!!
[03:22] <sbalneav> Morning cliebow_
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi cliebow_
[03:24] <jsgotangco> scottie to hottie
[03:24] <jsgotangco> too
[03:37] <cliebow_> Gentlemen!
[03:41] <cliebow_> boy:i have a dumb one...in one of my fits a deleted bottom panel where minimized programs show..i did add a panel..but minimized xterms still disappear..will some one hiyt me with ugly stick then tell me how to get that function back?
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'window list'?
[03:48] <cliebow_> hmmm
[04:14] <cliebow_> Kamping_Kaiser, Ahhhh that is much better..Thanks!
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> cliebow_, np, sorry, i didnt think to be more verbose
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hum. ubuntu ppc iso 735mb?? *wonders if dd introduces overhead*
[04:16] <ogra> ppc isnt tested ... its not on the official list anymore
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> this is a dapper image.
[04:17] <ogra> so i dont monitor it
[04:17] <ogra> oh, ok
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> long as it fits on the cd when i need, i dont mind :)
[09:08] <LinuxProbie> g'mornin
[09:16] <LinuxProbie> anyone alive in here?
[09:16] <LaserJock> maybe
[09:16] <LaserJock> :-)
[09:17] <pips1> :-)
[09:19] <LinuxProbie> So I have two problems, one with my dell wireless wlan card and the other with the dell wireless 350 bluetooth module
[09:19] <LinuxProbie> anyone know about those?
[09:21] <pips1> LinuxProbie: what is the problem?
[09:22] <pips1> hey sbalneav
[09:22] <sbalneav> Hey
[09:22] <cbx33> HI sbalneav
[09:22] <sbalneav> how's it going?
[09:22] <cbx33> yeh good good
[09:22] <cbx33> you?
[09:22] <pips1> fine, finally managed to get some time for testing the beta
[09:23] <cbx33> nice
[09:23] <LinuxProbie> neither of them works, pips1
[09:30] <pips1> LinuxProbie: a quick google search shows me that you don't seem to be alone with this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2308248
[09:34] <pips1> LinuxProbie: on a quick glance, it doesn't look as if you problem was reported in malone bug tracker... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bluetooth
[09:39] <pips1> how do I filter bugs by package in Launchpad?
[09:53] <LaserJock> ogra: ping regarding edubuntu-docs
[10:01] <diyerxa> Hello
[10:09] <diyerxa> I am in charge of a project at my college in which I must install a distribution of Linux on many old PCs to be distributed to High Schools around my state.
[10:09] <LaserJock> cool
[10:10] <diyerxa> I chose Edubuntu as the distribution.  I have installed it on 23 computers now, and still have more to do.
[10:10] <LaserJock> neato
[10:10] <diyerxa> Should any of these schools run in to problems, where should I direct there problems?
[10:11] <diyerxa> *where should I direct their questions?
[10:11] <LaserJock> so you're planning on installing Edubuntu and then just letting them have at it?
[10:11] <diyerxa> That's what my boss asked me to do.
[10:11] <LaserJock> or are you going to some training?
[10:12] <diyerxa> My boss asked me to format the HDD, and install an opensource OS
[10:12] <LaserJock> hmm, is there anybody at these schools who's going to be in charge of them?
[10:12] <diyerxa> I'm just the techy, I don't really know much aside from what my job duties are.
[10:13] <LaserJock> :-)
[10:14] <diyerxa> I'm guessing I'm going to be getting a lot of phone calls as soon as we start distributing these computers. That's why I'm asking now. lol
[10:15] <LaserJock> well, there's this channel
[10:15] <LaserJock> and the mailing lists: edubuntu-devel and edubuntu-users
[10:16] <sbalneav> As well, Canonical offers paid support
[10:18] <diyerxa> Okay, I'll consider some of these options and try to work out a policy.  Thanks guys.
[10:19] <diyerxa> Have a good one.
[10:19] <LaserJock> cya
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> so I;m trying a different walkthrough on my wireless card, getting stuck when it asks me to do osmething, and this is the output:
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> rollerce@edubuntu:~$ sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> Cannot open input file /home/rollerce/desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[10:21] <bimberi> LinuxProbie: capital D in Desktop
[10:22] <LinuxProbie> You're kidding...
[10:22] <LinuxProbie> it's THAT picky o.o;
[10:22] <bimberi> yep, Linux/Unix is case sensitive
[10:23] <LinuxProbie> bleh
[10:25] <kigurai> Tab-completion is your friend :)
[10:27] <LaserJock> LinuxProbie: it's a feature not a problem ;-)
[10:27] <kigurai> LaserJock: :)
[11:02] <tidrion> hey
[11:02] <tidrion> anyone else tried edubuntu on an ibook?
[11:02] <tidrion> getting an error that ELF can't be read or something
[11:02] <tidrion> any ideas?
[11:03] <tidrion> okay...
[11:03] <tidrion> anyone here?
[11:03] <LaserJock> tidrion: what were you doing?
[11:03] <tidrion> trying to run the live disc
[11:03] <tidrion> cd
[11:03] <LaserJock> did it work at all?
[11:03] <tidrion> ni
[11:03] <tidrion> no
[11:04] <tidrion> just kept giving me that error
[11:05] <LaserJock> did you get the right disc?
[11:05] <LaserJock> i386 or powerpc
[11:22] <pips1> ugh, in gcompris, there is a button to start tuxpaint, and when you click it, the system just freezes :-/


[06:45] <dholbach> good morning
[08:45] <Mister_Q> o/
[10:05]  * popey goes for a walk for lunch as it's sunny o/
[10:07] <nigelb> don't shut it down! ;)


[18:13] <ioria> arya__,    wait... may i ask you what's on the disk you inserted ?
[18:13] <arya__> ioria: VCD
[18:13] <ioria> arya__,    i asked you to try another disc ....
[18:13] <arya__> ioria: AH SORRY
[18:13] <lhambley> hi all, I'm trying to make postfix my default MTA without using the `dpkg-reconfigure` interactive menu, I'm provisioning with ansible. What do I have to do to make sendmail stop stealing the MTA role ?
[18:13] <arya__> ioria: the disc contains somgs
[18:14] <arya__> *songs
[18:14] <arya__> ioria: i have a set of VCDs... i am trying with another one
[18:14] <ioria> arya__,    if it's a audio cd it doesn't mount ...
[18:14] <arya__> okay
[18:15] <ioria> arya__,    try to stop the process
[18:15] <arya__> ioria: okay
[18:15] <inra> anyway..all a bit of joke. being close enough to computers, no need to get integrated into them, ever.
[18:16] <nacc> is anyone already tracking down the libreoffice failures in z-p? it seems like ant and liborcus-0.11-0 aren't being picked up (at least) as build-deps?
[18:17] <inra> by the way, is it because of this snap thing that I got 'all' the packages of LibreOffice installed,including those that I will not need?
[18:17] <arya__> ioria: yep, killed the process
[18:17] <ioria> arya__,    sudo umount /mnt
[18:17] <ducasse> nacc: wrong buffer?
[18:18] <arya__> ioria: umount: /mnt: not mounted
[18:18] <nacc> ducasse: yeah :/
[18:18] <ioria> arya__,    ok, have you already installed  ubuntu-restricted-extras  ?
[18:19] <arya__> io
[18:19] <arya__> ioria: yes, i have.
[18:20] <arya__> ioria: followed the instructions on the link and it did not install anything new saying things are alreay up to date
[18:20] <ducasse> lhambley: why are both sendmail and postfix installed? seems unnecessary...
[18:20] <ioria> arya__,    sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:20] <arya__> ioria: okay
[18:21] <arya__> ioria: done
[18:21] <lhambley> ducasse: I can't answer that, I keep removing sendmail and it comes back, I *presume* it's coming in as some dep from another package, but I can't get it to stay gone - hard to tell when one has ~900 lines of ansible config that one inherited, and has ~20 places calling teh `apt` playbook
[18:21] <ioria> arya__,    sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[18:21] <lhambley> but for the sake of my sanity then, the package `sendmail` should not be installed, at all, anywhere ?
[18:21] <arya__> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23989983/
[18:22] <ioria> arya__,    sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[18:23] <arya__> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23989989/
[18:23] <ioria> arya__,    when it exits , reboot
[18:23] <arya__> ioria: okay
[18:24] <ducasse> lhambley: packages should not depend on a specific mta package, but default-mta or whatever it's called
[18:25] <lhambley> ducasse thanks mate, pulling my hair out for 45 min wondering why the hell my postfix rewriting stuff wasn't taking effect o_O
[18:26] <ALFA> ederica
[18:26] <ALFA>  14 anni
[18:26] <ALFA> federica
[18:26] <ducasse> lhambley: take a look at 'apt rdepends sendmail', see if you can figure out what wants it
[18:26] <ALFA> mora carnagione scura coda di cavallo occhi neri formosa
[18:27] <lhambley> nice, didn't know apt could do that - nothing jumping out at me
[18:30] <lhambley> weirdly ducasse postfix won't start and `echo "Test mail from postfix" | mail -s "Test Postfix $(date --iso-8601)"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>hangs with notes from `sendmail[14066]` like ` stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [<IP_ADDRESS>]` in the mail log, although there's no sendmail listening on :25 (which explains the error) I just don't understand why I get  `sendmail[]` in the logs, unless this is referring to
[18:30] <lhambley>  postfix's sendmail drop-in replacemnet ?
[18:33] <ash_workz> why would `pg_ctlcluster ... status` say the cluster is up but `pg_lsclusters` claim it's down?
[18:33] <ducasse> lhambley: it very well could be. have you asked in #ubuntu-server? they might have a better idea how to figure this out, and i've gtg in a min
[18:34] <lhambley> sure, thanks for the time you could give me already :)
[18:36] <Guest13513> ioria: hi
[18:37] <ioria> Guest13513, hi
[18:37] <Guest13513> ioria: it solved the problem
[18:37] <Guest13513> thanx for the help
[18:37] <ioria> Guest13513, ok, you're welcome
[18:37] <Guest13513> ioria: i can see the cd rom is mounted now
[18:37] <ioria> Guest13513, good
[18:38] <Zelfje> Hello, i have an issue with sshd, it fails to connect every N days (between 3 and 24) on my server, i use keys and other port to connect, is this a known bug? how can i debug / solve this issue?
[18:39] <Zelfje> 14.04, updated to latest SSH
[18:39] <Zelfje> from apt
[18:40] <EriC^^> Zelfje: try running ssh -vvv user@host when it happens
[18:40] <Zelfje> then it times out
[18:40] <EriC^^> and check /var/log/auth.log on the host
[18:40] <Zelfje> no connection, no drop no ignore
[18:40] <EriC^^> can you ping the server?
[18:40] <Zelfje> nothing in auth.log, perhaps i need to up some debug
[18:40] <Zelfje> yes web and other services work
[18:40] <Zelfje> ping is turned off
[18:41] <Guest13513> ioria: to cross verify, the problem was with the extra services, right?
[18:41] <davis> hello
[18:41] <ioria> Guest13513, probably, yes but VCD can be troublesome
[18:41] <Zelfje> it seems like sshd crashed, but that is not in syslog dmsg or any other
[18:41] <arya_> ioria: okay
[18:42] <davis> i've been trying to apt-get install lately and I get an incredible delay for 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)] did something change recently?
[18:42] <Zelfje> googles, find one simular case who restart machine every night, i don't want that on production machine
[18:44] <Lavinho> i acont find boot32.efi ubuntu 16.04
[18:44] <Lavinho> i acnt
[18:44] <Lavinho> i cant
[18:45] <Zelfje> 14.04 has OpenSSH_6.6.1p1, i do not have this issue on any other server
[18:46] <Zelfje> want to somehow find out why this happens and prevent it.
[18:47] <Lavinho> helpme
[18:48] <koleygr> Lavinho you could try a bootrepairdisk
[18:49] <koleygr> it solves many boot problems
[18:49] <arooni> how can i block an ip range on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[18:52] <Zelfje> arooni use a firewall i.e. IP tables, i enjoy csf myzelfje: https://download.configserver.com/csf/install.txt
[18:52] <arooni> looks like https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-block-an-ip-address-with-ufw-on-ubuntu-linux-server/ ;; is a an easy way to address it
[18:55] <Zelfje> yes, and you want to invest some more time, to secure your service while doing that
[18:55] <Zelfje> best is to play with raspberry pi or other old computer first so you do not lock yourself out
[18:56] <arooni> yas
[18:56] <arooni> are changes made to /etc/hosts immediate
[18:56] <arooni> or do i need to do something to activate my changes?
[18:57] <Zelfje> yes, they apply directly if correct
[18:59] <arooni> thanks Zelfje
[19:10] <Worm_in_a_Box> So, I want to partition the flash drive. The first partition with live ubuntu, the second a ext4 to copy stuff and the third a swap partition. The problem is that I can't mount the second partition as read and write. What to do?
[19:15] <ThiagoCMC> Worm_in_a_Box, try unetbootin (not sure if it will help you, or not)...
[19:16] <Worm_in_a_Box> It has nothing to do with the problem, actually :|
[19:17] <Younder> anyone have any experience with gpsd here?
[19:18] <akik> Worm_in_a_Box: one option could be to install ubuntu on the drive, then partition it further
[19:18] <pavlos> Worm_in_a_Box, seems you want to install ubuntu on a flash drive (that will make an ext4 and swap), then you can resize the ext4 and create a third ext4 partition to copy stuff, if I understood the issue
[19:18] <akik> there's something funky with the iso partitioning when you write it on the usb stick
[19:19] <Worm_in_a_Box> pavlos: I want to run ubuntu live, while also being able to copy stuff in a different partition located in the same device.
[19:19] <Worm_in_a_Box> Partition 1 is a FAT 32 that contains the iso, Partition 2 is an ext4 with nothing and Partition 3 is a swap.
[19:19] <Worm_in_a_Box> Swap is working.
[19:19] <Worm_in_a_Box> Live is working.
[19:19] <Worm_in_a_Box> Can't mount 2 as rw
[19:19] <Younder> My jetson has a flash installed ubuntu. My raspi's would need 4 Gb or so of RAM to use one. still it is not all that difficult to create a .img and flash it.
[19:20] <Worm_in_a_Box> It is a flashdrive.
[19:20] <edocpord> I have an old laptop that I don't remember the root password to. I can't get the grub menu to come up by holding shift. Any advice?
[19:21] <edocpord> or rather, I don't remember any password to it lol
[19:22] <Younder> you need to 'dd bs=512 if=<file> of=<dev>' where dev can be found by gparted ore whatever found by gparted when you formatted it.
[19:22] <Younder> bs can with luck be made gigger to make it fater. A card flash over USB3 is way fater. And I believe cat can be faster still
[19:23] <Younder> bs can with luck be made bigger to make it faster. A card flash over USB3 is way faster. And I believe 'cat' can be faster still
[19:23] <Younder> sorry about the anti-lisp
[19:24] <Worm_in_a_Box> Wut
[19:40] <RJW2> Hi guys, I was wondering if there is a ubuntu-equivalent to the keyboard shortcut windows+cursor --> aligning a window left or right on the screen, so it's easy to have two windows side by side to compare etc. It also works fine to move windows to the second screen etc.... so is there such a thing, and if so, how does it work in ubuntu?
[19:42] <Younder> Worm_in_a_Box, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12532/dd-vs-cat-is-dd-still-relevant-these-days
[19:42] <k1l_> RJW2: if you mean tiling, then ubuntu got that, yes. just drag the window to the right or left edge so it will be made half the size automatically
[19:43] <RJW2> k1l_ that's basically exactly what I'm looking for, but it would be even more convenient if there were keyboard shortcuts for it.
[19:43] <k1l_> RJW2: hold super (the winows key) to see the shortcuts
[19:44] <k1l_> RJW2: like ctrl+alt+numpad
[19:45] <RJW2> that's actually cool that it works with the numpad.... I'll try that - as soon as I contected a keyboard to my 14" laptop ;-)
[19:46] <brandor5> Hello everyone :) I'd like to mirror the ppc64el version of xenial, but it looks like it's meshed into the ports of all other arch... is there a simple way I can only grab the arch I want?
[19:46] <wendico> Hello. Do you know any ubuntu software that i can use to create animated presentations "on the fly"?. I see youtubers that seems to add pictures to the video they are recording "on the fly". I see how they touch the computer and a picture appears on a corner of the screen while they are recording. It doesnt seem to be added on a post edition. I would like to upload videos with a mix of myself talking, screen captures and pictures wi
[19:48] <alkisg> Worm_in_a_Box: you're booting from a usb stick and you can't mount its second partition as rw? That doesn't sound right, what's the error message there?
[19:48] <RJW2> Thank you k1I_ - I appreciate your help!
[19:49] <hakan_> hi
[20:04] <vgoodguy> is there any way to stop ubuntu from asking my password everytime after pc wakes up?
[20:04] <ioria> autologin you mean ?
[20:04] <tebbo> does anyone known when the 16.04.2 iso will be released?
[20:05] <OerHeks> vgoodguy, system settings > brightness & lock > require password ...  easy to find
[20:05] <k1l_> tebbo: "most likely monday" when there are not more issues when testing the isos
[20:05] <Worm_in_a_Box> Fixed the issue.
[20:05] <Worm_in_a_Box> How do I use a wireless printer?
[20:06] <djmentos> hello
[20:06] <djmentos> guys, looking for help related to bridge - brctl addbr br0 vboxnet0 vboxnet1, bridge doesn't forward IPv6 Neighbor Advertisement, is there any kernel switch for it? ip/eb tables clean.
[20:07] <wendico> Worm_in_a_Box:: http://askubuntu.com/questions/454910/how-can-i-connect-ubuntu-14-04-to-my-wireless-printer-canon-mp620
[20:07] <vgoodguy> OerHeks, thx but not easy cuz I am using a distro based on ubuntu and it lacked that feature.
[20:08] <OerHeks> vgoodguy, that is your issue, we support ubuntu only.
[20:08] <vgoodguy> OerHeks, BTW your answer helped actually
[20:09] <vgoodguy> It gave me the clue to what to find in the settings
[20:09] <vgoodguy> OerHeks, Thx again
[20:09] <clissold345> Does anyone use bzr? I have two branches on Launchpad, let's call them source and dest. I want to merge source into dest. As far as I can see from the docs the command is bzr merge -d lp:dest lp:source Is that correct?
[20:09] <OerHeks> vgoodguy, have fun :-)
[20:10] <redouane> hi
[20:10] <redouane> salam
[20:10] <redouane> hallo
[20:10] <redouane> bonsoir
[20:11] <RJW2> moin
[20:11] <vgoodguy> reduane walaikum salam
[20:11] <wendico> hola
[20:11] <vgoodguy> redouane, walakum assalam
[20:11] <wendico> :)
[20:12] <redouane> salam
[20:12] <OerHeks> !english
[20:12] <OerHeks> oh, i thought that factoid said english only please
[20:12] <vgoodguy> is "hello" english? OerHeks ?
[20:13] <OerHeks> sure, english and a nice song by Adele
[20:13] <vgoodguy> "salam" , "hola" etc as non-english as "hello" and "bye" are english
[20:13] <ioria> !en
[20:14] <OerHeks> ah thnx ioria
[20:14] <ioria> lol
[20:14] <vgoodguy> !wordsthatareenglishbutpeoplethinktheyarenot
[20:15] <Ben64> vgoodguy: none of it's on topic, please stop
[20:15] <vgoodguy> didn't work for me. lol
[20:16] <nacc> clissold345: may want #ubuntu-devel or #launchpad (or even see if ther is a bzr channel), depending, but yeah, i think that's correct
[20:17] <sm222> Hi, is the mirror for the ubuntu iso down? I'm getting "You don't have permission to access /16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso on this server."
[20:18] <Ben64> sm222: no
[20:18] <Herbalist> you didn't pay your taxes ?
[20:18] <Herbalist> j/k
[20:18] <sm222> Oh i see its this link that's down http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso?_ga=1.263180556.1232836035.1487017117
[20:19] <sm222> its the text under "http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso?_ga=1.263180556.1232836035.1487017117"
[20:19] <k1l_> sm222: try without the ?_gq.... thing
[20:19] <sm222> It works if I wait but the link under "Your download should start automatically. If it doesn’t, download now." doesnt work
[20:19] <Herbalist> down, link, down !
[20:19] <wendico> Hello, a software i want to use requieres OpenGL 3.2 or later,  this--> https://imagebin.ca/v/3CHsUocAKppT   is what my glxinfo | grep "OpenGL" says. Is that means that my opengl is version only 2.1? can i update that? thank you.
[20:20] <clissold345> nacc, thanks. I didn't realise #ubuntu-devel and #launchpad existed. I'm newish.
[20:20] <sm222> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=CA&version=16.04.1&architecture=amd64 On this page here, the download now button.
[20:20] <k1l_> Herbalist: please keep this channel for technical support only. thanks.
[20:20] <sm222> Anyhow, it downloads so whatever
[20:21] <Herbalist> k1l i was already elsewhere, ty
[20:21] <sm222> wget returns 403 as well
[20:22] <k1l_> sm222: did you see my message?
[20:22] <sm222> remove the ga?
[20:23] <k1l_> sm222: remove everything after the ?
[20:23] <sm222> Yeah that seems to work
[20:23] <sm222> wonder what it is
[20:23] <Pici> Its a google analytics thing, but I don't see it in my browser.
[20:25] <TigerTJJ> hey
[20:25] <sm222> thats weird, the link seems to work fine from my laptop. Oh well, I'm nuking this distro anyhow
[20:25] <sm222> thanks for the help anyways
[20:25] <TigerTJJ> thans chanserv
[20:26] <k1l_> Pici: we had a few users in here reporting issues with that attachment to the link
[20:26] <TigerTJJ> *thanks
[20:27] <sm222> it happens on the torrent link too.
[20:27] <ioria> sm222, wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:27] <sm222> Yeah that's what I did.
[20:27] <lerner> im watching a 720p bluray movie on my new notebook (14'', ubuntu 16.10) and the fan wont stop spinning and making an awful noise. This unit does not have a dedicated graphics card, just a kaby lake processor and I wonder: is this how things are going to be , each time I watch a movie?
[20:27] <sm222> that also works if you just remove everything after the ?
[20:30] <wendico> lerner: yes, probably.
[20:30] <lerner> ....
[20:30] <sm222> anyhow 1 minute in my download so its no big deal, nuking this desktop.
[20:30] <sm222> thanks again
[20:31] <er000k> Hello !
[20:31] <er000k> I have simple question. I installed AMDGPU-PRO drivers, and where is control panel ?
[20:32] <wendico> lerner: hd video is a very intense work for a laptop, it makes fans to be noisy to cool down. u can use software like psensor to watch your laptop temperature to see why the fan needs to run full speed. Maybe you can adjust fan speed in your bios settings so your laptop can be hotter but not so noisy. Nothing else you can do.
[20:32] <max12345> ya hi
[20:32] <max12345> I'm apt-upgrading
[20:32] <max12345> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-47-generic
[20:33] <lerner> wendico, ifI start a virtual  machine, will the notebook also be this loud?
[20:33] <lerner> i dont want the notebook to burn
[20:33] <max12345> I'm generating like 30 of those. Why? Can I make it stop?
[20:33] <er000k> I have simple question. I installed AMDGPU-PRO drivers 16.60 for Ubuntu 16.04, and where is control panel ?
[20:33] <OerHeks> lerner, i guess in a vm that fan will go higher
[20:34] <nacc> max12345: probably you've not ccleaned out your kernels (apt-get autoremove, e.g.)
[20:34] <wendico> lerner: depens on how intesive is the use of the processor. Just for starting it it wont be so laud. If the processor gets very busy either on the host or in the guess session, yes, it will be that noisy
[20:34] <nacc> max12345: stopping it is not advised, necessarily, as you don't want to break your boot. Instead, clean the kernels out after its doen and it won't take so long next time.
[20:35] <lerner> so you guys runs virtualizations on desktops...
[20:35] <wendico> leaner: tip: doing anything on a virtual machine takes more resources than running on the host machine
[20:36] <max12345> nacc: yeah that's because autoremove also removes manually installed packages I need for a build :S ok, at least I know now what it does to my upgrade process
[20:36] <nacc> max12345: no it shouldn't.
[20:37] <nacc> max12345: if you specify `apt-get install <pkgname>` autoremove should not remove it, iir
[20:37] <lerner> wendico, OerHeks have you ever applied oilor butter to the contact partsof a fan, so its not so noisy?
[20:37] <er000k> how to change DPI (Logitech G100S) this mouse have button "dpi switch" but in default is over 1000dpi, i need 400dpi
[20:37] <dgarstang> I'm booting an AWS Ubuntu AMI with 2 x 2Tb disks. Looks like cloud-init only formats them to 1Tb???
[20:38] <nacc> dgarstang: probably want #ubuntu-server
[20:38] <wendico> leaner: many times, but not on a new fan, that of putting oils is only applicable to a worn fan, you just said your laptop is new
[20:38] <dgarstang> k
[20:38] <wendico> lerner:^
[20:38] <OerHeks> lerner, ugh no .. who gave you that tip ? fans nowadays do not need lubricant
[20:38] <lerner> I read that on a blog iirc
[20:39] <ioria> er000k, for your first question : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-CCC-Linux-Doing-The-Pre-Req
[20:39] <lerner> so I need a desktop with a huge fan to watch movies...
[20:40] <qmr> update-initramfs is not returning.  wtf?
[20:40] <OerHeks> lerner *if* you had an old laptop, degreasing and dusting the fan would do, a new laptop i would let it be .. or if you notice a difference with an other laptop ( same model) i would RMA
[20:40] <qmr> this is a new server with 16.04, nothing special at all.  /boot has disk space
[20:41] <wendico> Oerheks, even in new fans, if worn, there is a sticker u can peel on the  back of the saft, add Residue-free lubricant (not butter or oil of course) and it will make less noise and run faster. I did try it myself
[20:41] <qmr> strace shows it's stuck on wait4(-1,
[20:42] <lerner> OerHeks, sadly my old notebook is a bigger one with a dedicatd graphics card
[20:42] <OerHeks> wendico, that may work, my experience is just touching the fan too hard will make it worse
[20:43] <qmr> also, why does ubuntu server not boot to a working VTY?
[20:44] <wendico> This is how i do it and it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPyHBH3WwBM  and of course, be careful to apply any pressure to the fan that will make the shaft even worse and thus make more noise
[20:44] <wendico> btw, all this is offtopic, sorry
[20:44] <OerHeks> qmr, the bootline might need some tweak to get the proper resolution, server does not contain videodrivers.
[20:45] <wendico> Hello, a software i want to use requieres OpenGL 3.2 or later,  this--> https://imagebin.ca/v/3CHsUocAKppT   is what my glxinfo | grep "OpenGL" says. Is that means that my opengl is version only 2.1? can i update that? thank you.
[20:45] <OerHeks> qmr https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options vga=xxx >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[20:46] <ioria> qmr what's your video card ?
[20:49] <gp5st> is there an easy way to have segregated userlands sharing a kernel like a a BSD jail?
[20:50] <gp5st> userlands and networking*
[20:50] <qmr> OerHeks:  I have working VTYs in some slow framebuffer mode, but I have to manually switch to them with ctrl alt f1
[20:50] <qmr> This is a *server* there's no reason for fancy graphical boot and consoles
[20:50] <qmr> ioria:  dunno.  Dell PowerEdge 1955 blade server
[20:51] <ioria> qmr  maybe maxtor,    lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[20:51] <wendico> Can i just update OpenGL to a newer version or this depends on my graphic cards and ubuntu uses the most updated version available for my graphics card?
[20:51] <ioria> *matrox
[20:52] <qmr> I would do that except the machine won't even reboot
[20:52] <k1l_> wendico: what ubuntu is it?  what driver in use? and why do you need to upgrade the opengl version?
[20:53] <baizon> wendico: use HWE
[20:53] <qmr> this is retarded.  I think we'll be going with Debian or Centos.  I shouldn't be pounding my head against the wall for days trying to get a working installation
[20:53] <ioria> qmr  try to set nomodeset
[20:53] <lerner> wendico, those are my fans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lxvmay2tn0
[20:53] <k1l_> qmr: what does not work?
[20:53] <qmr> no working console at boot, hangs on shutdown / reboot
[20:53] <k1l_> qmr: and since you have a monitor attached what is the issue there?
[20:53] <qmr> of course sysrq is disabled ( wtf? ) so I can't get debugging information on hung shutdown
[20:54] <qmr> k1l_:  I don't understand your question
[20:54] <WeiJunLi> 'username is not in the sudoers file.....'
[20:54] <WeiJunLi> and im unable to login as root the output is su: Authentication failure
[20:55] <wendico> hello k1l_ Ubuntu 14.04 lts on a laptop with intel graphics card. I need opengl 3+ for https://obsproject.com/ (open broadcast studio). In Additional Drivers says "no propietary drivers in use"
[20:55] <WeiJunLi> any help?
[20:55] <k1l_> wendico: what gives you "uname -a"?
[20:56] <Bashing-om> !root | WeiJunLi
[20:56] <WeiJunLi> Bashing-om: i cant run any command with sudo
[20:56] <wendico> k1l_: Linux xxxxx-laptop 4.4.0-62-generic #83~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 18 18:10:30 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:56] <WeiJunLi> because the username is not in the sudoers file.
[20:56] <deezee> you can create a root login
[20:56] <styler2go> what's the "best" java i shoudl take? just the official one?
[20:57] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: what is the "groups" output?
[20:57] <k1l_> deezee: that is not the ubuntu way so we dont advise it in here
[20:57] <lebeev> WeiJunLi: which version of ubuntu do you use?
[20:57] <WeiJunLi> lebeev: latest
[20:57] <k1l_> wendico: ok, so you are already on the HWE kernel and xorg stack
[20:57] <lebeev> when did you last update?
[20:57] <deezee> thought this was for information, is there PC?
[20:58] <lebeev> you may be able to use this to get root https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=1072
[20:58] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: getent group username
[20:58] <WeiJunLi> username:x:1000:
[20:58] <OerHeks> !root
[20:58] <WeiJunLi> lebeev: dont remember
[20:58] <k1l_> lebeev:  dont be trolling in here
[20:58] <lebeev> otherwise you'll probably have to boot with init=/bin/bash and just edit the sudoers file
[20:58] <lebeev> k1l_: ?
[20:58] <k1l_> lebeev: is it the first user?
[20:59] <k1l_> lebeev: stop
[20:59] <lebeev> k1l_: ?
[20:59] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: is it the user you created at install=
[20:59] <k1l_> lebeev: please dont do just random advices in here.
[20:59] <lebeev> of course it is?
[20:59] <lebeev> he just said it's uid 1000
[20:59] <OerHeks> lebeev, setting rootpassword is not the ubuntu way, it is possible yes, but the problems that can happen are bad.
[20:59] <WeiJunLi> this just happened now when im trying to recompile a kernel
[20:59] <lebeev> I never said he should set the root password OerHeks
[21:00] <lebeev> I suggested he may escalate privileges so he could edit the sudoers file without taking the system offline
[21:00] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: can you tell the whole story since that is not a  standard ubuntu setup you got there
[21:00] <OerHeks> just use sudo ..
[21:00] <lebeev> if that doesn't work, he'll have to reboot it and use something along the lines of init=/bin/bash to edit the sudoers file
[21:00] <lebeev> if you bothered to read that's his problem
[21:01] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: the whole story is that everything was normal and now i have to do 'sudo make modules_install'
[21:01] <lebeev> sudo isn't working
[21:01] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: and the output was that
[21:01] <wendico>   k1l_: so can i upgrade to OpenGL 3.2 or later?
[21:01] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: the user wasnt on sudoers file
[21:01] <OerHeks> no, su is not working.
[21:01] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: what is the output of "groups"
[21:01] <lebeev> OerHeks: scroll up.
[21:01] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: that is a kernel installation cmd
[21:01] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: but i have recompiled the kernel many times
[21:01] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: and didnt happen this
[21:02] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: no, "groups" is a command that will list the groups your user is in
[21:02] <WeiJunLi> dialout
[21:03] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: and "whoami"?
[21:03] <WeiJunLi> k1l_
[21:04] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: did you  try to change some files to "fix" your issue? looks like your user stup is very broken
[21:04] <Pici> WeiJunLi: or attempt to add a group to your user?
[21:05] <WeiJunLi> do i need to enter grub menu?
[21:05] <k1l_> could have been a usermod command gone bad
[21:06] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: did you try to use usermod to fix your issue? (would be more helpful if you answer questions to get to know your situation)
[21:06] <styler2go> is ubuntu 16.10 avconv or ffmpeg
[21:06] <k1l_> styler2go: both can be isntalled
[21:07] <styler2go> what's the default in ubuntu packages
[21:07] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: to run usermod it needs sudo...
[21:07] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: no, i asked you if you used that. i try to get to know what made that mess and if one can fix that
[21:07] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: no I havent
[21:08] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: because that is not an ubuntu setup if you user is only in the "dialout" group.
[21:08] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: dunno why
[21:08] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: as i said everything was working great, now i just tried to do sudo make modules_install while recompiling a kernel and noticed that error.
[21:08] <WeiJunLi> but even yesterday was ok.
[21:09] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: what is "whoami" output?
[21:11] <wendico> Ok, finally i found my answer... no need more help with the opengl, thank you very much.
[21:11] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: ok, reboot to recovery in grub. then readd your user to the standard groups again: adm,cdrom,lpadmin,sudo,sambashare,dip,plugdev
[21:15] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: i just reboot and clicked letter 'c' for command line
[21:15] <WeiJunLi> opened miniaml bash-like line editing
[21:15] <WeiJunLi> it doesnt recognize adduser command though
[21:15] <WeiJunLi> can't find, I mean.
[21:22] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: forget that just got into the proper recovery mode
[21:22] <WeiJunLi> this is the output for adduser username sudo
[21:22] <WeiJunLi> http://dpaste.com/3V3T2AM
[21:22] <WeiJunLi> what's it about
[21:22] <k1l_> WeiJunLi: did you mount rw the / ?
[21:23] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: oh no
[21:24] <WeiJunLi> k1l_: mount rw /
[21:24] <WeiJunLi> is that?
[21:24] <k1l_> mount -o remount,rw /
[21:24] <WeiJunLi> ok done
[21:24] <WeiJunLi> adduser worked successfully
[21:25] <WeiJunLi> lemme try
[21:25] <WeiJunLi> now
[21:25] <Wayne_> hello
[21:26] <Kalisu>  /join #synology
[21:27] <tomreyn> the church of synology storage solutions does not have a channel on freenode.
[21:28] <OerHeks> Does synology use javascript?
[21:31] <Trel> Is there any way with Find to only return ascii files?
[21:32] <OerHeks> Trel, ' find . -type f -exec grep -Iq . {} \; -print   '>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37851905/find-only-text-files-in-directory
[21:33] <mjw99> Trel; postamble with file and xargs maybe...
[21:33] <OerHeks> Trel, ctrl + C to stop
[21:34] <wendico> definitely i need new hardware for running ubuntu. Can someone help me find the cheapest hardware to run ubuntu 16 with hd video support, virtualization support for virtualbox and openGL 3.2+ i dont care if it is a desktop, laptop or "paper box" i just need to find the cheapest solution. Thank you very much.
[21:42] <fenix_peregrino> Hellow guys, I was wondering if someone could explain to me how to encrypt my internal HDD drive?
[21:50] <nicomachus> fenix_peregrino: best way to do it is during Ubuntu installation. Select "Full Disk Encryption".
[21:54] <fenix_peregrino> nicomachus: the problem is that I installed after the Ubuntu installation. ¿Is there a way on my current OS status?
[21:55] <nicomachus> fenix_peregrino: it gets touch after installation.
[21:55] <nicomachus> s/touch/tough/
[21:56] <fenix_peregrino> nicomachus: ¿why?, I heard maybe I could use true crypt
[21:56] <qmr> how can I find fastest mirror?  netselect is not in repos
[21:57] <piglit> is there any reason why synaptic should cache all the cached files ?
[21:57] <piglit> i got almost 7 gig there
[22:02] <Bashing-om> piglit: What release are you running ? Later releses do clen ups . Maybe run ' sudo apt-get clean ' to removed the archived files ?
[22:02] <Bashing-om> releases do clean ups*
[22:12] <OerHeks> qmr, 'sources' got that tool buildin, 'select best server'
[22:13] <WeiJunLi> i just self compiled a kernel but when i did update-grub and reboot I'm going to the initramfs shell. Does that means something wrong happened while compiling?
[22:18] <nacc> WeiJunLi: most likely, yes, "although something wrong happened" is more likely you made a mistake
[22:19] <WeiJunLi> dunno where
[22:19] <nacc> WeiJunLi: well, unfortunately, once you compile your own kernel, you're kind of on your own -- probably best to ask in a kernel channel
[22:19] <dgarstang> It looks like cloud-init does not resize non root EBS disks. True?
[22:20] <nacc> dgarstang: try to stay in one channel (#ubuntu-server or #cloud-init are probably best)
[22:22] <Trel> Hmm, I'll try a few of those and see which works best.  All this because an ereader didn't have the consideration to change the package name of an app when they modified it.
[22:22] <WeiJunLi> nacc: this is the output on busybox - Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) ALERT! UUID=...... does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[22:23] <Trel> They installed a modified FBReader, which is fine, but they used the legit package name, which means I can't install the unmodified one due to it being the same package, but signed differently.
[22:23] <Trel> So, I needed to take the legit one, and customize the app+package name.
[22:23] <Trel> Then I can install it alongside
[22:24] <nacc> WeiJunLi: like I said, not really the purpose of this channel to support your own built kernel
[22:25] <ThreadBear> Hi - I'm trying to use sysctl to change some variables, but they dont seem to change. E.g sudo sysctl -w kernel.osrelease="1.2.3" does work. ANy ideas?
[22:26] <nacc> ThreadBear: i would expect osrelease to be read-only
[22:27] <ThreadBear> Hmm ok - what I'm ultimately trying to do is change the contents of /proc/release -- is this even possible?
[22:27] <nacc> ThreadBear: /proc/release doesn't exist anymore
[22:27] <nacc> ThreadBear: maybe you meant something else (this is on 16.10)
[22:27] <ThreadBear> Sorry I meant /proc/version
[22:28] <nacc> ThreadBear: why do you want to change that file?
[22:28] <ThreadBear> Aha - this will sound stupid, but im doing a CTF competition that involves a binary that check the value of /proc/release for a certain value
[22:29] <ThreadBear> So I want to change THAT value
[22:29] <asdblefeke> when is the 16.04.2 point release going to be released? it has been delayed 3 times already.
[22:32] <k1l_> asdblefeke: you can install the 14.04(.1) isos and update if you are in a hurry
[22:33] <billymichael> Hi, recently installed 16.04 but having a bit of a problem with my keyboard and mouse on boot
[22:33] <billymichael> Seems to take a long time for it to recognise the mouse, sometimes it doesnt even seem to be giving power through the USB to the device. Never had this issue on windows
[22:33] <billymichael> Any ideas?
[22:34] <Bashing-om> asdblefeke: " Looking like Thursday the 16th according to #ubuntu-release." ( howefield forum ) .
[22:35] <nacc> ThreadBear: have you verified in the source that /proc/version depends on the sysctl values
[22:36] <billymichael> Also seem to not be able to mouse click on certain windows when i open them.
[22:36] <billymichael> Essentially, i'm having mouse problems
[22:38] <adalbert> billymichael, try sudo rmmod usbhid; sudo modprobe usbhid;
[22:48] <WoLf> Hello everyone, I'm having a weird issue that I'm not sure how to approach.. After the last round of updates, my 16.04 installation, running on a laptop in init 3, keeps spinning down the hdd after a few minutes, and almost instantly spinning back up as new web traffic comes in.. It never did before.
[22:49] <WoLf> I think it might be something stuck thinking it's running on battery while it's not.. What would be the best way to resolve this issue?
[22:50] <WoLf> Oh, sorry forgot to mention. it's being used as a web and home server.
[22:58] <lerner> english ubuntu, american keyboard and I need to write umlauts in german and accents in spanish. How do Ido that?
[23:01] <user__> lerner, add the german language, then you can write english and german (switch keyb with shift-alt, you can define this
[23:02] <WeiJunLi> if I have a kernel .config already on the folder I dont need to do fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs right
[23:11] <arooni> is there any way to 'share audio' from my ubuntu laptop ==> mac mini?
[23:11] <arooni> tidal music service takes up 60-70% cpu so was hoping to offload it to another machine
[23:13] <WeiJunLi> anyone can spot the reason why failed? https://bpaste.net/show/5f1be73ce6a6
[23:29] <Wombert> hi... weird issue on 16:04, with sources "xenial main", "xenial-security main", "xenial-updates main" and "xenial universe"...
[23:29] <Wombert> I can't "apt-get install libgraphviz-dev", it says "libgraphviz-dev : Depends: libgvc6-plugins-gtk (= 2.38.0-12ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed"
[23:29] <UbuntuMaxor> try "sudo apt-get install" ing the dependencies
[23:30] <Wombert> so it's taking libgraphviz-dev from xenial-updates, where it depends on libgvc6-plugins-gtk (http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/libgraphviz-dev vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libgraphviz-dev)
[23:30] <Wombert> and when I "apt-get install libgvc6-plugins-gtk", then it gives me 2.38.0-12ubuntu2, not ...ubuntu2.1, so http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libgvc6-plugins-gtk and not http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/libgvc6-plugins-gtk
[23:31] <Wombert> (so then it says "libgraphviz-dev : Depends: libgvc6-plugins-gtk (= 2.38.0-12ubuntu2.1) but 2.38.0-12ubuntu2 is to be installed")
[23:31] <Wombert> (that message is not quit correct; it means "is installed", not "is to be installed", but anyway...)
[23:31] <UbuntuMaxor> i'm not an expert, but i think you can wget those as well
[23:31] <Wombert> why does it pull the one from xenial-updates, and the other from xenial?
[23:32] <Wombert> that's obviously not a fix, UbuntuMaxor
[23:32] <UbuntuMaxor> Which is why i said i'm NOT an expert?
[23:32] <Wombert> clearly :p
[23:33] <UbuntuMaxor> duh
[23:33] <brainwash> Wombert: maybe run apt-get update
[23:33] <Wombert> I did of course brainwash :)
[23:33] <brainwash> or select another mirror
[23:33] <Wombert> first thing
[23:33] <k1l_> Wombert: can you show the output of "apt policy libgraphviz-dev libgvc6-plugins-gtk" and show that on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[23:33] <Wombert> wilco k1l_
[23:33] <glache> hi
[23:35] <lerner> aaarg... im using a 14'' notebook and the default size of the fonts is too small. how can I change font size for ALL programms to 16?
[23:35] <Wombert> mhm so the libgvc6-plugins-gtk package from updates is missing @k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23991696/
[23:35] <Wombert> aaaah hold on, that's in updates universe, not main
[23:35]  * Wombert adds source
[23:36] <k1l_> yes. you need to add the updates repos for all the channels
[23:36] <k1l_> the systemsettings will do that automatically
[23:36] <Wombert> A++ rubberduck debugging k1l_, thanks a lot
[23:36] <k1l_> np
[23:36] <Wombert> (no GUI or anything here, building Docker images)
[23:37] <k1l_> ok, than you need to do that manually :)
[23:37] <Wombert> yup :>
[23:38] <Wombert> k1l_: if they're all priority 500, then does their order matter?
[23:38] <Wombert> in sources.list?
[23:39] <k1l_> Wombert: the order in source.list doesnt matter at all.
[23:39] <Wombert> kk
[23:40] <JonelethIrenicus> i installed cuda 8 but nvcc still says 7.5
[23:41] <JonelethIrenicus> any ideas?
[23:44] <kzet> I'm currently in the process of chaning username in Ubuntu 16.04. I'm at the point where I assign a "group" to the username or something. What is even a group? What should I put there as a "group name"?
[23:45] <azizLIGHT> if im on ubuntu 14.04 will i ever get new kernels like 4.4
[23:45] <theverbg> @kzet: a group is just a form of permission... if you have a bunch of teachers on an install, you could make a group teachers
[23:45] <kzet> It even wants me to put <old group> in as well.. but I have no clue what "group" I was in before.
[23:45] <theverbg> or a group students, for that matter
[23:45] <theverbg> users go in a group
[23:45] <theverbg> and the group can be given permissions
[23:46] <k1l_> !hwe | azizLIGHT
[23:46] <kzet> but this guide I'm using wants me to go: "groupmod -n <newgroup> <oldgroup>".
[23:46] <kzet> I have no idea what "group" I was in before.
[23:46] <theverbg> kzet: groups <username>
[23:46] <theverbg> will give you groups a user is part of
[23:47] <kzet> I did that, but it told me that username doesn't exist. :/
[23:47] <kzet> Could that be because I did the whole usermod thing before this groupmod change?
[23:47] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: what is meant by GA stack? " if one wants to remain on the original GA stacks"
[23:47] <theverbg> it doesn't seem like adduser typically asks groups?
[23:47] <theverbg> I don't remember it ever asking for groups off the top of my head
[23:47] <theverbg> it asks for organization and a few other things
[23:47] <theverbg> phone #
[23:48] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: that is the new setup on1 6.04.
[23:48] <theverbg> old unix holdover stuff from history
[23:48] <kzet> Lets say I can't get information aboubt what group I was in earlier, on my other username. How would I deal with this situation?
[23:48] <kzet> Where it wants me to add a newgroup and the oldgroup.
[23:48] <theverbg> oldgroup can probably be left blank
[23:48] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: you can use the 3.13 on 14.04 it came with. or the 4.4 backported kernel from 16.04.
[23:49] <kzet> alright, I'll try that out.
[23:49] <kzet> thanks!
[23:49] <theverbg> ohhh, you are changing user not adding one
[23:49] <theverbg> i see now
[23:49] <theverbg> you can always add groups later
[23:49] <azizLIGHT> hes gone
[23:49] <theverbg> oops. :-)
[23:49] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: what about getting even newer kernels
[23:50] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: not from ubuntu. the 16,04 backports kernel is the latest you can get
[23:50] <azizLIGHT> i see
[23:51] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: there are 3rd party repos but they are not official ubuntu kernels and might be missing needed features
[23:52] <dbristow> Still no 16.04.2 release?
[23:53] <kzet> Alright! I'm stupid.. I changed my username to a new name.. that's why "groups <user>" didn't work. So I checked out the gorups I'm in, and there were many. How exactly do I add multiple gorups to one user in a line like this: "groupmod -n <newgroup> <oldgroup>"?
[23:53] <k1l_> dbristow: it might be 16.february i heard. but you can install the 16.04(.1) isos and update
[23:54] <kzet> do I just seperate the group names with a "," or?


[00:43] <sml1226> Hey guys I just put xubu on my ps3 and have all kinds of problems
[00:44] <sml1226> It won't let me access any folders
[00:44] <sml1226> xfce keeps disabling itself as desktop manager
[00:44] <sml1226> What do I do???
[00:47] <sml1226> Hello ppl???
[00:57] <sml1226> :-(
[00:57] <sml1226> please help me
[01:02] <R[a]ndom> sml1226, don't pm random people
[01:02] <R[a]ndom> if anyone is available we'll help
[01:02] <sml1226> sorry man
[01:03] <sml1226> is there anybody here???
[01:09] <pleia2> sml1226: you probably want to try a channel/forum that specifically addresses xubuntu on a ps3
[01:11] <sml1226> Where can I find that???
[01:13] <sml1226_> plela2 u still there?
[01:13] <pleia2> sml1226: looks like you want to try http://psubuntu.com/
[01:13] <sml1226_> ok thanks man
[01:20] <sml1226> trying to use ubu to get back to xubu cuz psubuntu was no help at all
[01:22] <retour> ubuntu is ubuntu the only difference in name is if you use Gnome or Xfce
[03:03] <Grant-A|busy> does gufw require root permissions to be effective?
[03:04] <gartral> hello, whats the steps for getting flash/java working in xubuntu
[03:04] <gartral> ?
[03:04] <Grant-A|busy> gartral: Platform?
[03:05] <gartral> xubuntu latest
[03:05] <Grant-A|busy> no, x32 or x86_64?
[03:06] <Grant-A|busy> what is your processor?
[03:06] <gartral> unfortunetly, im dealing with a total idiot, acting as an intermidery, and he feels too overwhelmed to ask here, i assume its 32, however, hes rather cluless when came too windows, and is pretty much vompletly lost in any linux
[03:07] <Grant-A|busy> flash works pretty well on both platforms now in ubuntu
[03:07] <Grant-A|busy> so let me dig up the commands for both
[03:07] <gartral> no commands, please, this is the fifth time hes reinstalled >.>
[03:08] <gartral> it really would be best if we could do this through the gui
[03:08] <Grant-A|busy> it's a simple apt-get command
[03:08] <gartral> hes already screwed that up five time, trust me
[03:09] <Grant-A|busy> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree sun-java6-jre
[03:09] <Grant-A|busy> that should install everything you need
[03:09] <gartral> thats what i found in the forums, and hes botched it five times...
[03:09] <Grant-A|busy> hmm
[03:09] <Grant-A|busy> do you know what is processor is?
[03:10] <gartral> i already said, were assuming 32
[03:10] <Grant-A|busy> I don't know how you botch that 5 times
[03:10] <Grant-A|busy> does he have firefox installed?
[03:10] <gartral> neither do i, but hes totally cluless
[03:10] <gartral> yes, thats base package, isnt it?
[03:11] <Grant-A|busy> Depends on your version of ubuntu
[03:11] <gartral> xubuntu, latest 8.10
[03:11] <Grant-A|busy> ehh
[03:11] <Grant-A|busy> open synaptic
[03:11] <gartral> six times... he just reformatted the main drive...
[03:11] <Grant-A|busy> O_o
[03:12] <gartral> c l u e l e s s
[03:12] <Grant-A|busy> it's ok, we were all there at one time
[03:12] <Grant-A|busy> ;)
[03:12] <Grant-A|busy> type gksu synaptic in a terminal
[03:13] <Grant-A|busy> that will open a GUI for installing programs
[03:13] <gartral> brandon = terminalphobia
[03:13] <Grant-A|busy> oh wait, he's on xubuntu?
[03:13] <Grant-A|busy> Applications -> System -> Synaptic
[03:13] <Grant-A|busy> enter the root password
[03:13] <Grant-A|busy> then search for flash
[03:13] <Grant-A|busy> check flashplugin-nonfree
[03:14] <Grant-A|busy> then search for jre
[03:14] <Grant-A|busy> and check sun-java6-jre
[03:14] <Grant-A|busy> then hit apply
[03:14] <gartral> you dont need to designate the nonfree packages?
[03:14] <gartral> hes just installed
[03:14] <gartral> and at prettymuch zeroconfig
[03:14] <Grant-A|busy> Xubuntu 8.10 doesn't require that multi-verse thing anymore
[03:15] <Grant-A|busy> *multiverse configuration
[03:15] <Grant-A|busy> it should just ask when you try to install, just hit ok if that happens
[03:15] <gartral> ok, thats explains why he didnt find it when i told him too look
[03:15] <Grant-A|busy> when jre asks to agree to the Sun EULA, scrolldown and check the box, and press accept
[03:16] <Grant-A|busy> then wait for it to finish and you should be done
[03:16] <gartral> ok, lets put it this way, he thinks synaptic is in firefox
[03:17] <Grant-A|busy> ...
[03:17] <gartral> when i say cluless, i mean clueless like the former president clueless
[03:19] <Grant-A|busy> wow, um
[03:19] <Grant-A|busy> I can't really explain this any other way...
[03:19] <Grant-A|busy> actually...
[03:19] <Grant-A|busy> you COULD install it from firefox
[03:20] <Grant-A|busy> it may be a bit more difficult, though
[03:20] <gartral> but you have too hunt down the packages
[03:20] <Grant-A|busy> much simpler, actually
[03:20] <gartral> and there deps
[03:20] <Grant-A|busy> go to a website using flash, and when it says missing plugins, click the little popup, and do as it says
[03:21] <gartral> and here we go, he finally got it, god
[03:21] <Grant-A|busy> through firefox?
[03:21] <gartral> nah, synaptic
[03:21] <Grant-A|busy> alright
[03:21] <Grant-A|busy> good luck with Linux
[03:22] <gartral> heh, ill tell him, im running a different distro, and the layouts way different
[03:22] <Grant-A|busy> oh, it's not installed yet?
[03:22] <gartral> huh?
[03:23] <Grant-A|busy> flash and java
[03:23] <Grant-A|busy> you may want to teach him to use the terminal
[03:23] <gartral> you relise, ths helps being relayed, this isnt on my system, and i said, he has severe terminal-phobia
[03:24] <gartral> ok, where all good
[03:24] <gartral> thank you all
[03:24] <Grant-A|busy> you're welcome
[03:24] <Grant-A|busy> happy to help
[03:25] <gartral> i have yet too use the latest ubuntu, i had severe issues with thermal overloads in dapper and havent touched it since
[03:25] <Grant-A|busy> dapper was over two years ago
[03:26] <Grant-A|busy> thermal overloads?  O_o
[03:29] <gartral> i cant work, im multiple dissability
[03:29] <MisterFlibble> gartral: Too "sad" to work?
[03:29] <MisterFlibble> mmhm
[03:29] <Grant-A|busy> ignore MisterFlibble, he's a troll
[03:30] <MisterFlibble> Social Security is just a program for fakers
[03:30] <gartral> between having half a leg, and rare lung condition, i can leave my house much
[03:30] <MisterFlibble> people that need it can't get it
[03:30] <MisterFlibble> cause of all the "I'm sad" cheaters
[03:31] <Grant-A|busy> gartral: Have you considered working in the Informations Technology field?
[03:31] <gartral> no degrees
[03:31] <Grant-A|busy> you don't need one
[03:31] <Grant-A|busy> ...for certain things
[03:31] <MisterFlibble> SSI can pay anything from $623 to like $2,000 or so a month I think
[03:32] <Grant-A|busy> selling websites doesn't require a degree
[03:32] <gartral> never finished high school cause the track and feild couch ran me till my leg clotted, the it was amputated
[03:32] <MisterFlibble> depending on your income before you were on it
[03:32] <Grant-A|busy> gartral: You didn't sue?
[03:32] <gartral> they won the case with the staement of "we were never made awear of any prior health issue in your family"
[03:33] <gartral> more cause the lawer apointed too me at the time was a fucking pig
[03:33] <gartral> excuse my language
[03:33] <MisterFlibble> The government covers their ass retroactively, and the hearing is decided by a government judge
[03:33] <MisterFlibble> don't you love the hypocrisy?
[03:33] <gartral> yea
[03:33] <gartral> no, MisterFlibble, its an idiocracy
[03:34] <MisterFlibble> so then you have to hire a bloodsucking lawyer and fight them for a year or three
[03:34] <gartral> with what?
[03:34] <gartral> my "good looks?:
[03:34] <MisterFlibble> they'll work on contingent
[03:34] <MisterFlibble> they only get paid if you win
[03:35] <Grant-A|busy> you could try selling websites
[03:35] <MisterFlibble> the SSI pays you a certain back pay
[03:35] <MisterFlibble> the lawyer takes part of that
[03:35] <gartral> yea, he still is..
[03:35] <gartral> a year after he fucked me
[03:35] <MisterFlibble> You have to be careful what lawyer you hire
[03:36] <gartral> one of the friedmen domino and smith asses
[03:37] <MisterFlibble> heh
[03:37] <gartral> anyway, if i could rewind a year or two, ide just avoid lakewood as a city all together, and wouldnt be here
[03:37] <MisterFlibble> I had a case in the court system at one point, and my lawyer lost paperwork she needed for my case
[03:38] <MisterFlibble> and I was lucky the judge gave me a continence or I'd still be in jail
[03:38] <MisterFlibble> *Continuance
[03:39] <MisterFlibble> I love how our system works, it says "innocent til proven guilty" but what really happens is the state charges you with a crime and you have to spend thousands on a lawyer to prove you didn't do it
[03:39] <MisterFlibble> and you don't get that back, even if you're not guilty
[03:40] <gartral> and also, in america, the land of the free, you cant get a job at Buger King or Toxic Bell without a collage diploma
[03:40] <MisterFlibble> uhhhm
[03:40] <MisterFlibble> there's high school dropouts working there
[03:40] <Grant-A|busy> yeah
[03:40] <gartral> not in lakewood ohio
[03:40] <MisterFlibble> the register even counts change for them now
[03:41] <MisterFlibble> you could put a monkey there
[03:41] <Grant-A|busy> why the hell would you go to college to work at burger king?
[03:41] <Grant-A|busy> Collosal.waste.of.money
[03:41] <gartral> ohh, but having animals do the laber is workers right violations
[03:41] <Grant-A|busy> that sounds like discrimination to me based on your disabilities
[03:41] <MisterFlibble> Grant: There's not such thing as needing a college degree to flip hamburgers
[03:42] <Grant-A|busy> I think you've been lied to
[03:42] <MisterFlibble> even their managers don't need them usually
[03:42] <MisterFlibble> just on the job training
[03:42] <Grant-A|busy> our president didn't act like he had one
[03:42] <MisterFlibble> McDonalds hires people off the street
[03:42] <gartral> hah, then why do the all have their degrees posted on the wall?
[03:42] <MisterFlibble> gives them uniforms
[03:42] <MisterFlibble> and pays minimum wage
[03:42] <MisterFlibble> lol
[03:42] <Grant-A|busy> Welcome to McDonalds, would you be interested in giving me change?
[03:43] <MisterFlibble> it's a job for kids and for people that are honestly not competent to do anything else
[03:43] <gartral> no, the unemployment rate in the craphole is way too high too be sustainable
[03:43] <MisterFlibble> They probably can't spell "college"
[03:44] <Grant-A|busy> those diplomas on the walls are most likely city business licenses, land leases, awards, and one of the manager's
[03:44] <MisterFlibble> When they tell you the economy is growing and the unemployment is going through the roof
[03:44] <MisterFlibble> it means "The rich are doing fine, where's the problem?"
[03:44] <MisterFlibble> :)
[03:45] <MisterFlibble> Hopefully our new government will be a little less apathetic to workers, but I doubt it
[03:45] <MisterFlibble> Maybe on the surface at least, Obama won't be an insensitive clod like Bush :P
[03:45] <Grant-A|busy> Well, the only difference is a democratic majority and new commander in chief
[03:45] <Grant-A|busy> the president has very little power
[03:45] <gartral> hah, no, they all bear marking from big name colleges like stanford-brown, ITT, Phoenix, and ohhyea, the manager went too kent state
[03:46] <Grant-A|busy> I highly doubt those are the employee's
[03:46] <gartral> yea they are dudre
[03:46] <MisterFlibble> Grant: The President has lots of power, but he can't use most of it without Congress approving it
[03:46] <MisterFlibble> which is how it should be
[03:46] <Grant-A|busy> no one in hell would go to college just to work at minimum wage for the rest of their lives...
[03:46] <MisterFlibble> 15 year olds work at BK and McD
[03:46] <MisterFlibble> not college graduates
[03:47] <Grant-A|busy> hmm
[03:48] <Grant-A|busy> I looked up his IP address...
[03:48] <Grant-A|busy> it's not from anywhere in Ohio...
[03:48] <gartral> it not that they WANT too, its that, booger fling and toxic hell are the only places left too work, unless youed rather work a Caribou Coffee, or the Library, or perhaps free-lance journalist.... all of which pay SHIT i might add
[03:48] <gartral> duh.. proxy
[03:48] <gartral> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:48] <Grant-A|busy> burger king and taco bell pay less than the other places...
[03:49] <Grant-A|busy> minimum wage is $8 an hour, and they only work 12 hour days
[03:49] <gartral> no, sadly, they honestly pay more, the other 3 pay 6 and under, and i dont know how they get away with it
[03:50] <MisterFlibble> minimum wage is $6.50 an hour, and it will be $.7.25 this May
[03:50] <Grant-A|busy> ((8*12)*7)*4 =
[03:50] <MisterFlibble> anything over 40 hours is time and a half
[03:50] <MisterFlibble> by law
[03:50] <gartral> and my frind says that the media plugins arnt working after installation
[03:51] <Grant-A|busy> people who work full time at burger king and taco bell only make $2,688 a month, add all utility, food, and housing bills, and that leaves them with $300 a month
[03:51] <gartral> honstly, you really think a search by ip is reliable?
[03:52] <gartral> yea, and SSI pays me under 1200
[03:52] <Grant-A|busy> I'm not going to argue anymore... you aren't making sense...
[03:53] <gartral> anyway, this is severly OT, my frin says he cant get flash working still
[03:56] <gartral> ok, so what, your all went clueless?
[03:56] <Grant-A|busy> I've explained it every way I can...
[03:57] <Grant-A|busy> sorry
[03:58] <gartral> is it that, or have you just tooken a cold shoulder too me for being a complaining cripple?
[03:58] <Grant-A|busy> um no... I explained to you every possible way to install it
[03:58] <gartral> really, be honest, you wont hurt me much more than i already am
[03:59] <gartral> ugh.... clueless moron, hes had KUBUNTU on his system this whole time!
[04:00] <Grant-A|busy> he needs a terminal in that case, because adept is broken
[04:00] <Grant-A|busy> well, konsole in this case
[04:00] <gartral> yet he just rebooted and it works anyway >.>
[04:01] <gartral> ok, now im baffled there
[04:01] <Grant-A|busy> < 30 second reboot?
[04:03] <gartral> no, he dissapeared a few minutes ago
[04:03] <Grant-A|busy> oh
[04:03] <gartral> i was just too busy typing too notice
[04:04] <gartral> hes so clueless, he needs help finding volume controls..
[04:09] <afroken> hi, whats the best way to install nvidia drivers on intrepid ?
[04:10] <Grant-A|busy> the jockey pop-up didn't come?
[04:11] <Grant-A|busy> Applications > System > Hardware Drivers
[04:11] <Grant-A|busy> Then select the NVidia driver that corresponds with your car
[04:11] <Grant-A|busy> *card
[04:11] <afroken> Grant-A|busy, actually i'm running server+xfce i don't have application>system etc...
[04:12] <Grant-A|busy> ah, I am not sure then
[04:12] <afroken> infact i dont have "applications" at all...
[04:16] <gartral> youll need too know the name of the file, and use wget from terminal
[04:53] <forces> saluton
[05:37] <judgen> quote of the day: How could you compete, they are smart enough to have mastered space travel.
[05:37] <judgen> =)
[05:37] <judgen> Roughly translated maybe..
[08:18] <jarnos> Hi! I wonder why I can see group audio by groups command, but not by the graphical utility.
[08:25] <ball> group audio what?
[08:29] <jarnos> ball: I meant a group called "audio".
[08:30] <ball> oh.
[08:30] <tajlero> File and image hosting sites that do not require registration list. http://pastebin.ca/raw/1314460
[08:39] <MisterFlibble> I want to know why Gstreamer still has that bug that tints my video playback blue
[08:39] <MisterFlibble> I've seen that come and go since 7.04
[09:44] <selyoursoul> i'm having a problem writing to my external drive (ntfs).  i've tried drag/drop, copy/paste via gui, and copy via terminal.  no go.  i also installed  ntfs configuration tool and enabled write support for external drive.  nothing seems to work.
[09:48] <knome> !ntfs
[09:48] <selyoursoul> i can see my drive and copy files from it.  it seems to auto mount fine.  i've installed ntfs-3g
[09:49] <knome> any output if you try to copy from terminal
[09:49] <knome> ?
[09:50] <selyoursoul> knome:  no
[09:51] <knome> hmmh.
[09:51] <knome> i'm already out of ideas.
[09:51] <selyoursoul> that's what has been lurking in the back of my head all day.....hmmmm, ha, ha
[09:52] <selyoursoul> i'm new to linux and i figured maybe i'm too stupid, being a windows user and all
[11:53] <KosiNuss> hi, how can i update xfce to version 4.6? is there a repo already?
[11:54] <KosiNuss> on xubuntu 8.10
[12:03] <TheSheep> there was a repository, but I'm not sure it still works
[12:04] <TheSheep> it's generally a bad idea though, it's not finished yet
[12:11] <KosiNuss> i think i can wait till its final release in about 2 weeks
[12:19] <jarnos> KosiNuss: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive
[12:20] <KosiNuss> ty
[12:23] <tingle> KosiNuss: there gonna be a new release of xubuntu in two weeks?
[12:24] <KosiNuss> yes, official release date is feb 2nd
[12:24] <KosiNuss> sry on feb 6th
[12:24] <KosiNuss> http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.6/milestones
[12:26] <tingle> KosiNuss: thanks alot!
[12:27] <tingle> hmz issnt that just a new release from xfce?
[12:28] <tingle> nevermind i read it correctly now
[12:39] <atari_> is ther a useful way to use bluetooth on xubuntu? any tool or so?
[12:40] <knome> !bluetooth
[12:41] <knome> !info bluetooth
[12:41] <atari_> no. not the ubuntu one... i just get nautlius startet all the time etc...
[12:41] <atari_> s/startet/started
[12:41] <atari_> is there really only the ubuntu way to use bluetooth on xubuntu?
[12:42] <knome> i use bluetooth with hcitool, sdptool, obexfs ...
[12:42] <knome> !info bluetooth-applet
[12:42] <knome> i have to go ->
[12:42] <knome> i hope you get it sorted out.
[12:42] <atari_> knome: the bluetooth-applet alway starts nautilus which messes up with xfce
[12:58] <judgen> atari_ dont run naulius fully then. run it without the desktop.
[12:58] <judgen> just the file manager.
[12:58] <atari_> how can i tell it not to run the desktop part?
[12:59] <TheSheep> via command-line option
[13:00] <TheSheep> see nautilus --help
[13:00] <atari_> and how? i used the gnome-bluetooth app
[13:00] <atari_> and that starts nautilus
[13:04] <TheSheep> well, start it yourself before it does
[13:52] <Pres-Gas> Hey all.
[14:38] <taw> has anybody used xubuntu + multi-head workstation without xinerama?
[14:48] <Pres-Gas> taw, what graphics card to you have?
[15:15] <Ratty> Hey, can anyone tell me why using the following command grub fails to locate the file : find /boot/grub/stage1
[15:15] <Ratty> The file is in /boot/grub
[15:16] <Ratty> Even though it keeps on saying tgat it doesnt exist
[15:24] <atari_> taw: yes
[15:24] <atari_> taw: but i use the nvidia xinerama like emulation
[15:26] <Pres-Gas> Ratty, the way you did your command...it is telling find to start looking in the DIRECTORY /boot/grub/stage1. stage1 is a file and that is why you are getting the error
[15:27] <Pres-Gas> Ratty, read this over to get a handle on find.  http://www.linux.com/articles/55377
[15:28] <Pres-Gas> It is a great tool, but the syntax is hard...I had the worst time getting the hang of it, but now I love it.
[15:28] <Ratty> Pres-Gas: good point, but does still not work without the wacky
[15:28] <atari_> do you have a separate /boot/ partition?
[15:29] <Ratty> Nope
[15:29] <Ratty> Default install really
[15:29] <PsynoKhi0> hi, I'm looking for anyone with some experience with Kino
[15:30] <Ratty> 3 partitions... Primary, extended, and swap
[15:30] <Ratty> Dual booting XP
[15:41] <Ratty> Hmmm... For some reason or another the grib gfx package is not installing correctly
[15:41] <Ratty> Using dpkg -i (file)
[15:47] <Ratty> Ahhh so you cant use it on xubuntu since its ext3 partitions use the newer 256 byte inode unlike what grub gfx uses which is 128
[16:04] <taw> Pres-Gas, at the moment one matrox dual-head, and one even older Matrox
[16:05] <taw> but planning to install some dual head ati + that old matrox for third head
[16:14] <knome> atari_, nautilus --no-desktop
[16:19] <atari_> knome: yeah. but that doesnt help... even if i already have started nautilus, it gets started as normal...
[16:27] <knome> atari_, so do you want to browse files on a device?
[16:32] <atari_> knome: yeah
[16:55] <knome> atari_, install obexfs, then "obexfs -b 01:02:03:04:05:06 -B channel -- /mount/point"
[16:56] <knome> atari_, to unmount, "fusermount -u /mount/point"
[16:57] <knome> atari_, and of course replace 01:02... with your device mac
[16:57] <knome> atari_, and channel with obex file transfer channel on you device
[17:02] <atari_> knome: ill try it later
[17:02] <atari_> knome: thanks for the advice :)
[17:06] <knome> atari_, np. just had to find out this yesterday myself
[18:47] <saint-tropez> hey guys!
[18:47] <saint-tropez> i have a q
[18:47] <saint-tropez> can anyone help please?
[18:48] <saint-tropez> i just installed xubuntu, but looks like it loads with GNOME
[18:48] <saint-tropez> not rite button menu and stuff
[18:49] <saint-tropez> any advice?
[18:49] <DaemonXP> GNOME and XFCE share a lot of packages
[18:50] <saint-tropez> i c
[18:50] <saint-tropez> ty
[18:50] <saint-tropez> but still no right button menu... can you advice how to make it more like XFCE?
[18:51] <Pres-Gas> saint-tropez, if you want it more traditional XFCE you will have to go into the settings manager
[18:51] <saint-tropez> ah... k ill try
[18:51] <Pres-Gas> xubu is made to behave very similarly to ubu
[18:51] <saint-tropez> ty both
[18:51] <DaemonXP> yeah, Xubuntu sets XFCE up to basically clone GNOME
[18:52] <saint-tropez> yeah i can see this... now, was a bit scared at first =)
[18:53] <saint-tropez> ty
[18:53] <DaemonXP> The resource usage isn't different enough to make much difference on a reasonable fast machine
[18:53] <DaemonXP> but the menus and file manager load and navigate a lot quicker
[18:53] <saint-tropez> all i need is speed =)
[18:53] <DaemonXP> yep
[19:00] <DaemonXP> http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7817/screenshot7or3.png
[19:01] <DaemonXP> is how mine's set up :P
[19:01] <DaemonXP> XFCE has better themes than GNOME
[19:05] <RediXe> Hello, does Xubuntu not offer to encrypt your hard drive when installing? 8.10
[19:05] <Odd-rationale> RediXe: i beleive you need to use the alternative install disc for that...
[19:05] <Odd-rationale> !alternative | RediXe
[19:10] <lc2> uh so guys
[19:10] <lc2> i had a problem with my xubuntu install cd, and it gave an IO error half way through
[19:11] <lc2> unfortunately, that leaves me in the curious position of having a half-installed xubuntu system
[19:11] <lc2> so, i can't boot it because the install cd thinks that xubuntu is installed, and so boots from the disk
[19:11] <lc2> (as in the hard disk)
[19:12] <lc2> i can't use the one half-installed on the hard disk because well, it's half-installed
[19:12] <lc2> if anyone has some evil genius plan here, please do let me know
[19:13] <Odd-rationale> lc2: reinstalling seems to be the only option... i also reccomend using the alternative install disc... as it seems somewhat more secure...
[19:13] <lc2> Odd-rationale: i can't reinstall, that's the whole problem
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> lc2: you have to change the boot order in the bios...
[19:14] <lc2> Odd-rationale: when i put the install cd in, it boots from it, and i'm guessing it's like "lol there's a ubuntu system on the hard drive, let's boot from that!11"
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> lc2: no, it should ask you whether you want to install, or boot from first hard drive...
[19:15] <lc2> Odd-rationale: if i go to install, it boots me into xubuntu, from my hard drive.
[19:15] <Odd-rationale> lc2: hmm strange... did you check the integrity of the disc?
[19:15] <lc2> Odd-rationale: no i didn't, i had one i had sitting around
[19:16] <lc2> Odd-rationale: but that's not foremost among my concerns at the moment
[19:16] <lc2> somehow being able to get into the installer again, would be great
[19:17] <Odd-rationale> lc2: for some reason, you install disc is not behaving properly... i was wondering whether an incorrect burn could be the issue...
[19:17] <lc2> oh btw i can't even ctrl+alt+Fx to get into a real terminal, because 1) i can't log in 2) getty or whatever it's called these days hasn't installed
[19:17] <lc2> Odd-rationale: no, i suspect it's behaving just as it should, it's seeing i have xubuntu installed on disk, and booting from that rather than CD
[19:18] <lc2> that is, the CD is doing that
[19:18] <Odd-rationale> that's my point... the cd shouldn't be doing that... :P
[19:18] <lc2> that seems like rational behaviour, *if* there was no such thing as a hosed install
[19:18] <lc2> Odd-rationale: i don't think a corrupted CD would cause that
[19:19] <lc2> you know, corrupted CDs mean random corrupted files, not "hey let's boot off another disk entirely"
[19:19] <Odd-rationale> what version of the iso do you have?
[19:19] <lc2> uhh hardy
[19:19] <lc2> in before "upgrade", i like LTS
[19:20] <lc2> well, gonna go play around with boot parameters, brb!
[19:26] <lc2> hey guise, if i do get it to boot fully off the CD again, is there a way i can tell xubuntu to install everything from the internets, rather than from the CD?
[19:26] <lc2> saves me booting into the rootkitted windows installation to download another ISO
[19:26] <lc2> :P
[19:26] <Odd-rationale> lc2: you need to use the mini.iso to download packages from the internet.
[19:27] <Odd-rationale> !mini
[19:27] <Odd-rationale> it is like 10mb...
[19:27] <lc2> Odd-rationale: there's not something i can change on the live cd to do that? ;(
[19:27] <Odd-rationale> nope...
[19:28] <lc2> Odd-rationale: that makes me a sad panda
[19:29] <lc2> hey well, i'm gonna try it from the CD again, then i'll go back to the spam zombie windows installation
[19:31] <lc2> (seriously, that's sending out like a spam every second)
[19:31] <lc2> (the people who own it were like, "lol linux")
[19:32] <lc2> (and i was like "k!")
[19:32] <Odd-rationale> lc2: what are you on right now?
[19:32] <lc2> Odd-rationale: i'm on my own pc, xubuntu
[19:32] <lc2> the one i'm installing on is a rootkitted XP box
[19:32] <Odd-rationale> lc2: can you use the one you are on to burn the mini.iso?
[19:33] <lc2> Odd-rationale: no cd burner ;\
[19:33] <lc2> although the xp box has one
[19:33] <Odd-rationale> i see...
[19:33] <lc2> hmm will the mini iso permit me to install xubuntu?
[19:33] <Odd-rationale> yes
[19:33] <lc2> mm
[19:33] <lc2> so like
[19:33] <lc2> well, i'll try the cd again
[19:33] <lc2> then if it doesn't work try the mini one
[19:33] <Odd-rationale> but be sure you have reliable internet connection...
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> as it downloads everything from the net...
[19:34] <lc2> Odd-rationale: it's reliable
[19:34] <lc2> not very fast, 1mbit ;\
[19:34] <lc2> what UI does the mini iso have?
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> the good side, is that it downloads all newest packages... so you won't have to update after you install...
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> lc2: text-based
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> that is how it can be so small... < 10mb
[19:35] <lc2> truth
[19:35] <lc2> yeah that's looking like a good option right now
[19:44] <lc2> *is booting the rootkit laden, spam-spewing windows install*
[19:56] <saint-tropez> hey
[19:56] <saint-tropez> i have one more question
[19:57] <saint-tropez> well... i don't know how to add layouts and how to make them switch wit Shift+Alt
[19:57] <saint-tropez> with*
[20:04] <lc2> oh shi--------
[20:05] <lc2> uh
[20:05] <lc2> Odd-rationale: will this installer ask me about how i want to partition the disks?
[20:05] <lc2> or is it just gonna nuke everything there
[20:05] <lc2> because it's already downloading stuff
[20:05] <Kiption> it has a partitioner
[20:06] <lc2> Kiption: i meant, the mini-cd's installer
[20:06] <lc2> (in case you missed it)
[20:06] <Kiption> oh
[20:06] <Kiption> i don't know
[20:06] <Kiption> sorry
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> lc2: it will ask you how to partition... (or should)...
[20:07] <lc2> Odd-rationale: nm, i just looked and it did :D
[20:08] <lc2> woohoo :D
[20:08] <lc2> now for downloading like 6 terabytes of stuff
[20:19] <DaemonXP> Ugggh, Midori works just enough to make you like it
[20:19] <DaemonXP> yet enough stuff is missing that you can't use it
[20:20] <malcolmb> ya
[20:21] <malcolmb> that's true
[20:21] <malcolmb> epiphany is a joke as well.  But at least it has a webkit version
[20:22] <saint-tropez> dear all, please advice how to to set keyboard shortcuts for switching between layouts?
[20:23] <Kiption> is sylpheed-claws still a pain?
[20:24] <malcolmb> hmmm, I know other DEs have applets for thah
[20:24] <malcolmb> don't remember xfce having one
[20:25] <Kiption> it has one
[20:25] <Kiption> at least an applet
[20:25] <Kiption> i don't know about a key command
[20:30] <saint-tropez> ok ty
[21:20] <lc2> Odd-rationale: you still there?
[21:20] <slow-motion> hi
[21:21] <lc2> Odd-rationale: so i installed from the mini-cd, and i installed gdm from the command line, how do i make gdm load by default at startup?
[21:21] <lc2> hi slow-motion
[21:21] <slow-motion> hi lc2
[21:22] <TheSheep> lc2: by making apropriate link in /etc/rc.d
[21:22] <Odd-rationale> lc2: i think the command is sudo dpkg-reconfigre gdm
[21:22] <Odd-rationale> *reconfigure
[21:22] <lc2> Odd-rationale: ooh, winrar
[21:22] <lc2> TheSheep: i'll try that if Odd-rationale's idea doesn't work :) cheers
[21:43] <DaemonXP> malcolmb: Epiphany-Webkit breaks compatibility with extensions, has even less settings you can edit
[21:44] <DaemonXP> and pulls in Epiphany Gecko and only sets up a shortcut to that :P
[21:46] <CaelThunderwing> is theres a Netinstall iso for XubuntuPPC
[21:50] <CaelThunderwing> was trying to install 8.04 xubntu ppc on G3 mac towerand it failed when detecting CD Drives and wont contune install from there
[21:51] <lc2> there is for ubuntu but not xubuntu
[21:51] <lc2> which is fine
[21:51] <lc2> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <lc2> and you're away
[21:51] <CaelThunderwing> sweet thanks
[21:52] <lc2> 64 or 32 bit
[21:52] <lc2> also, hardy or intrepid?
[21:52] <lc2> the line above the one above was a question
[21:52] <lc2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:52] <lc2> but go there and decide for yourself
[21:53] <CaelThunderwing> 32bit and hardy
[21:53] <CaelThunderwing> its a G3 (300MHZ) mac tower
[21:54] <lc2> ah
[21:54] <lc2> ^ see above
[21:54] <lc2> good luck with that
[21:54] <lc2> wait hold on, how is that gonna work
[21:54] <lc2> booting from an iso if it fails to detect your cd drive
[21:56] <CaelThunderwing> well
[21:56] <CaelThunderwing> it shard to say. where it gets to the stage of "Detect and mount CD-rom"
[21:56] <lc2> hm ;(
[21:56] <CaelThunderwing> it fails there butr boots and runs upto there
[21:57] <lc2> CaelThunderwing: hrm
[21:57] <lc2> well give it a shot
[22:59] <slim_> hi
[23:54] <likemindead> Hello all. Are PCI ethernet cards pretty universally supported? I've never had issues with any.


[01:42] <micahg> Unit193: that page is severely out of date
[01:44] <Unit193> Yes, that's the main point.


[01:11] <s0n1c_666> whats the room for kali ?
[01:11] <s0n1c_666> anyone?
[01:13] <s0n1c_666> nm
[02:40] <olvier> hye
[02:40] <Guest11178> KOUKOU
[04:32] <Guest11178> Bye
[04:38] <s0n1c_666> bye
[07:42] <Ab3L> hi
[07:44] <Ab3L> i don't know if here is the right place to ask it (or if my question is OT), but i've a problem with Thunderbird 31.7.0 (on my kubuntu 14.04)
[07:45] <Ab3L> when i open an e-mail with attachment, they are not shown unless i try first to transfer the e-mail.
[07:46] <Ab3L> i would like to see the attachments at the end of the e-mail immediatly (without to have to try to transfert the e-mail)
[07:47] <Ab3L> thunderbird is configured to use IMAP.
[07:50] <Ab3L> IMO, thunderbird shows the e-mail without to download the attachment, and it downloads it only when i try to transfert. Then, only after that the attachment is accessible. If so, it will may be possible to set thunderbird to download attachments immediatly (or at least when the e-mail is opened)
[08:06] <valorie> Ab3L: I think there is a tbird chan, let me check
[08:07] <Ab3L> hi valorie
[08:07] <valorie> hmm, there is such a chan, but only 2 in it
[08:07] <Ab3L> i just found yet on irc.mozilla.org
[08:07] <valorie> I wonder if it is just a guide to mozilla's official chan
[09:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:47] <amichair> Hey, does anyone know where one can find statistics of how many users use Activities? I was wondering if I'm in the minority or majority, and how big those are...
[11:32] <howlymowly> hi everyone... short question: I am on kubuntu 15.04 and want to use dropbox...  there is a little problem though, because the dropbox icon does not show up in the systray ...
[11:32] <howlymowly> I am trying to use stalonetray but for some reason
[11:33] <howlymowly> dropbox and other icons from "old" applications don't show up ...
[11:33] <howlymowly> ay idea whas going on here?
[11:45] <mparillo> howlymowly: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[11:45] <mparillo> That said, I used Dropbox, and I just follow the CLI instructions, and when I want to get fancy I use the python scripts.
[11:52] <eXistenZe> hey there
[11:53] <eXistenZe> anyone using dropbox with kubuntu 15.04?
[11:58] <mparillo> I am. CLI only.
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:04] <eXistenZe> mparillo: with a working tray icon?
[12:05] <lordievader> Hey eXistenZe
[12:06] <eXistenZe> hey lordievader . Thanks for the tips with kvm. Working fine
[12:07] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Nice, nice :)
[12:08] <eXistenZe> Needs two full two cores and 2Gb mem to work, so everything else turns not very smooth
[12:14] <eXistenZe> Now it's dropbox giving me trouble. CLI works fine, but tray icon does not work in plasma 5 apparently
[12:15] <lordievader> I'm sure you've read Martin's blog post?
[12:17] <eXistenZe> lordievader: Hum... right... But just to be sure can you send me the link :) :)
[12:19] <lordievader> eXistenZe: mparillo posted it at 13:45 ;) http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[12:20]  * eXistenZe confused
[12:23] <eXistenZe> so I need wmsystemtray is that it?
[12:23] <lordievader> For example, yes.
[12:31] <eXistenZe> done. does it need config or just logout?
[12:36] <lordievader> eXistenZe: Just launch it.
[12:38] <eXistenZe> a white box on the corner with nothing on it?
[12:40] <lordievader> Hmm, it should have the missing icons.
[12:40] <lordievader> And yes it is ugly..
[12:41] <eXistenZe> no missing icon and definitly ugly
[13:15] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: same probllem here, right now..   I treid stalonetray and wmsystemtray  but icons just dont show up ...
[13:16] <howlymowly> your wmsystemtray doesn't work either, right?
[13:41] <eXistenZe> howlymowly: it does not show the icons
[13:42] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: I have the exact same problem here (kubuntu 15.04 + plasma 5.3 + dropbox)...  no idea what to do about this ...
[13:42] <howlymowly> I tried all available "alternative" trays from the repositories..   (trayer, wmsystemtray, stalonetray etc..)
[13:42] <howlymowly> none of them work
[13:51] <eXistenZe> dropbox deb is made for gnome and nautilus
[13:51] <eXistenZe> perhaps it's not even a plasma or kde problem
[14:05] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: i have this problem not only with dropbox also with several other applications..  I guess this is a general problem with the new kde
[14:05] <howlymowly> or rather:  i think we would have to do some additional configuration so these applications can register themselfes in the party trays ...
[14:05] <howlymowly> but i have no idea how I would do that
[14:13] <eXistenZe> I'm just a n00b so no help from me
[14:24] <salotz> Hello is anybody here available to help me?
[14:24] <salotz> I am trying to use Kwalletmanager but I cannot get the application to open now, after I put my passwords in it...
[14:36] <howlymowly> eXistenZe: skype doesn't work, also ....
[14:42] <salotz> umm ok I'm just leaving KDE I can't be messing around with a password manager that randomly decides to not work as I am setting it up
[15:07] <[Relic]> what is filename for setting screen resolutions in 15.04?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> best to use the sytem settings>display&monitor>dispaly configuration, [Relic]
[15:11] <murthy> Saw this article on phoronix, you came to my mind   :) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PulseAudio-2015-Awesome
[15:11] <murthy> BluesKaj: ^
[15:14] <BluesKaj> murthy, well, it's his opinion, and I have mine based on personal experince with several computers, but I need pulseaudio for my media server pc soundcard, that doesn't mean I have to like it  :-)
[15:16] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, display configureation seems broken since it won't allow the normal resolution for my monitor
[15:16] <BluesKaj> [Relic], which gpu ?
[15:18] <murthy> I read some where that there was some new features coming to kmix may be there were discussions about pulseaudio which could had lead to the article
[15:18] <[Relic]> I tried a new session trying to see if that would release the memory leak in xorg and it came up proper then I shut down since it was up to nearly 4G of ram for xorg and when I started the computer today I am stuck with 1024x768 and my normal 1920x1080 isn't even an option in display configuration
[15:19] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, it is a 430gt and had no problem before starting today
[15:20] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, I just can't find any setting file to erase or reset on 15.04
[15:23] <BluesKaj> [Relic], it's in system settings GUI , find it in the kmenu/kicker  apps>settings>systemsettings
[15:24] <BluesKaj> ok are you using an xorg.conf files?
[15:24] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, I need the file name, not the broken system settings screen
[15:24] <BluesKaj> why didn't you say systems settings is broken
[15:25] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, the system setting won't go over 1360x768, the monitor is normally 1920x1080
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ok ,run lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'  , pastebin the output
[15:27] <BluesKaj> [Relic],^
[15:28] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/3E6BFHC7
[15:32] <BluesKaj> [Relic], seems you have the correct driver. Have you run an upgrade or dist-upgrade lately ?
[15:34] <[Relic]> I do whatever updates show up and I have backports setting in hope they will fix the critical error with sessions not saving
[15:34] <[Relic]> refusues to show history of updates
[15:35] <BluesKaj> 15.04 ?
[15:35] <[Relic]> yep
[15:36] <BluesKaj> that's a weird problem , haven't seen that before on 15.04
[15:40] <[Relic]> trying to force old nvidia drivers to see it that works but going slow
[15:40] <BluesKaj> my res is 1920x1080 as well, but there's no adjustment required , it defaults to that resolution
[15:40] <Fachher> Hi everyone
[15:40] <Fachher> Since last upgrade my desktop does not load
[15:41] <BluesKaj> [Relic], which driver are you sing , is the 340?
[15:41] <Fachher> Does anybody have similliar problems
[15:41] <[Relic]> trying to force it back to 340
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Fachher, what do you see after the login page ?
[15:42] <Fachher> Only my mouse cursor
[15:42] <Fachher> When I press Alt + F2 I can see the console
[15:42] <Fachher> in the top
[15:43] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Do you have any ideas where I can look for logs
[15:44] <BluesKaj> Fachher, ctl+alt+F1-F6 is the virtual terminal/TTY , can you update and upgrade from there?
[15:44] <Fachher> BluesKaj, I already did ctrl+alt+F1 then sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Fachher, sudo apt-get update first, then upgrade
[15:45] <Fachher> BluesKaj, did it too
[15:45] <BluesKaj> then try dist-upgrade
[15:46] <Fachher> okay
[15:57] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Okay everything works again
[15:57] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Was there a know issue?
[15:57] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Thank you for your help
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Fachher, sometimes there are fixes in the backports that require a dist-upgrade, usually from the developers
[15:59] <Fachher> BluesKaj, Ah okay
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Fachher, especially with the new plasma 5 desktop
[16:00] <Fachher> BluesKaj, can you recommend any good book or websource to read more about it. (backports etc)
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Fachher, can't think of one offhand, but here's a site that explains a lot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[16:07] <al8989> hello how do i use ndis wrapper to install a wireless network adaptor driver and what version of driver do i want , do i want the windows 7,  the windows vista or thewindows xp version of the driver?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> al8989, which wifi chip do you have?
[16:24] <al8989> BluesKaj I have a realtek 8187B, with the linux drivers it keeps randomly disconnecting the wifi so figured i would try the windows i readthey weremore responsiveand when i have windows 7 onthe pc it works fine and didnot randomly disconnect
[16:26] <al8989> BluesKaj I have a realtek 8187B, with the linux drivers it keeps randomly disconnecting the wifi so figured i would try the windows drivers as i readthey were more responsive and when i have windows 7 on the pc it works fine and did not randomly disconnect
[16:28] <al8989> i tired the usbcore.autosuspend=-1 and =0 as genii suggested, but they did nothing to fix my problen
[16:31] <BluesKaj> al8989, it's ausb dongle ?
[16:31] <al8989> yes
[16:32] <BluesKaj> on a desktop or laptop?
[16:32] <al8989> a desktop
[16:32] <al8989> i am usign the dongle becausei have no wire to connect via wire due to my pos system using up all the ports on my router in my business
[16:40] <BluesKaj> al8989, buy a switch and some cable instead of fooling with a wifi chip that's known to be unstable on linux, http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/basics/lanwan-basics/31442-how-to-add-ports-to-a-router
[16:43] <al8989> i already have two switched on that network one down farther for the pos to bring into to my restaurant from my seafoodstore and one to supply internet into my  living area next door
[16:44] <al8989> can i add a third?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> if you can add a wifi device to the internet connection with all the other working connections, I don't see what difference another ethernet connection will make
[16:48] <al8989> ah ok well when my network was isntalled and setup by comcast business and the micros pos company they said not to add too many switches on your network as it  decreases the speed and performance of internet connection
[16:58] <BluesKaj> al8989, well an extra wifi or ethernet connection are both going thru the same router so i don't see that either will make much difference in internet performance
[17:06] <al8989> ok then i'll guess i'l do that then
[17:11] <BluesKaj> al8989, I'm sure that kind of setup will solve your dropout problem
[18:22] <amari> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 fully update. My graphics card is from Intel. I have graphics corruption with the desktop effects, like black artifacts when I move or maximize the windows. Is it a common, known bug and does anyone else have the same situation?
[18:30] <amari> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 15.04 fully update. My graphics card is from Intel. I have graphics corruption with the desktop effects, like black artifacts when I move or maximize the windows. Is it a common, known bug and does anyone else have the same situation?
[18:33] <amari> This is really annoying because I would like to use KDE5. Is there any solution?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> amari, make sure you update, upgrade and dist-upgrade your packages since plasma 5 is still under deveopment , this should bring your system up to date and fix most desktop problems
[18:43] <amichair> Hey, does anyone know where one can find statistics of how many users use Activities? I was wondering if I'm in the minority or majority, and how big those are...
[18:44] <al8989> ty for the help blueskaj
[18:45] <BluesKaj> al8989, hope it works out for you.
[18:48] <al8989> oh im sure it will was just trying to not spend anymore money on eqipment, because the computer had windows 7 on it but the main hard drive died so i decided to make the the extra hard drive the primary drive so i could reinstall everything on the pc and get it working again but did not have a windows 7 cd so rather than reinstall windows 7 on it a pay $200 for a cd or $500 fora new pc i decided to install kubuntu and i fixed the pc
[18:48] <al8989> for no money spent
[18:48] <al8989> well now it will be spending a ittle money
[18:52] <al8989> well now it looks like i will be spending a ittle money
[18:57] <hudsonkem> hello, .. why this button not work? http://i.imgur.com/qvJUBmi.png

[19:30] <[Relic]> Anyone know where the 15.04 video setting file is?
[19:56] <dougl> [Relic], ?
[19:56] <[Relic]> my screen resolution is screwed up and I can't get it to reset so I am looking for the setting file to hopefully get rid of the problem
[19:56] <dougl> I dont but I think there is a better question...
[19:57] <dougl> so you are console only (text)?
[19:57] <[Relic]> no xorg.conf that I can see in 15.04
[19:58] <dougl> yeah - that disappeared when I was not looking not sure what they use currently...
[19:58] <dougl> did you nvidia anything?
[19:59] <MichaelP> You have to create xorg.conf file
[19:59] <[Relic]> even tried downgrading and upgrading the nvidia driver, can't get the upgrade history or I would uninstall the last few items to see if that did it
[20:00] <[Relic]> tried writing the info in the system settings area for it but it must keep them somewhere, but I haven't found it yet, my old kscreen file is correct from before the upgrade
[20:00] <dougl> googling 15.04 ubuntu x configure form console
[20:01] <[Relic]> got gfx it is just a weird resolution
[20:03] <MichaelP> have you did your nvidia-xconfig command
[20:04] <[Relic]> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[20:04] <dougl> did you sudo that?
[20:07] <MichaelP> could check out the wiki on arch for nvidia... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA
[20:12] <[Relic]> don't think the gfx card is the problem, need to figure out how to check and see how it sees this monitor, it never read crt-1 before
[21:42] <eXistenZe> Hey guys
[21:42] <cofo> hi. Anyone know Java to help me analyze class to make a license ?
[21:43] <eXistenZe> Is the "get new widgets" option broken? I installed gmail feed but it does not show on the list...
[21:52] <valorie> eXistenZe: is it on the list?
[21:52] <valorie> because widgets have to be ported to Plasma5 to work
[21:52] <valorie> and not all have been ported yet
[21:53] <valorie> this would be in 15.04 - you didn't say
[21:53] <valorie> cofo: there are loads of java chans on freenode
[21:53] <valorie> !alis | cofo
[21:54] <cofo> im not registered
[21:55] <valorie> cofo: I don't understand -- registered with who/what?
[21:56] <cofo> in here
[21:56] <cofo> i need to login
[21:56] <cofo> no password..
[21:57] <eXistenZe> valorie: yes, it's 15.04. The widget is on the get new widgets, it installs, but it does not show on the Add widgets  menu.
[21:57] <valorie> !register | cofo
[22:51] <ringlej> I have kubuntu 14.04 installed, and when I configure from System Settings, Instant Messaging and VoIP to add a Jabber account, it appears to work. But, if I logout and login again, the configuration is lost
[22:54] <ringlej> I noticed that after I add the Jabber account, the Apply button never gets enabled, so I never have the opportunity to click it
[22:56] <valorie> hmmm
[22:56] <valorie> you might check for an rc file or so in your ~/.kde folder
[22:56] <valorie> either .kde/share/apps
[22:56] <valorie> or configs
[22:57] <valorie> they are just text files, so you can easily edit and save
[22:58] <valorie> also a lot of applications save their configs at exit, so be sure to quite the application(s) before logging out
[22:59] <ringlej> I'll try exiting the app... I don't see any rc being created after creating the account
[23:00] <ringlej> hmmm... the KDE IM Contacts app doesn't seem to have a quit option that I can find.
[23:02] <ringlej> so, I managed to see that it created a ~/.kde/share/apps/ktp/cache.db file but no rc file
[23:46] <[Relic]> any chance the history of upgrades are stored in a file somewhere that I can access since the muon history tab craps out every time


[00:53] <mup> Bug #1591412 opened: Random test case failure in maasserver.models.tests.test_node:TestRackControllerManager <MAAS:In Progress by trapnine> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1591412>