[00:00] <mneptok> Tstantonfsu: sounds like a potential cooling problem
[00:00] <tj83> Tstantonfsu your having hard shutdown crashes?
[00:00] <Starnestommy> Tstantonfsu: it might be overheating
[00:00] <Tstantonfsu> i think it is overheating
[00:00] <Tstantonfsu> it revs
[00:00] <tj83> mneptok... that was exactly what i was going to say :)
[00:00] <Tstantonfsu> like i can hear it
[00:00] <Tstantonfsu> such a little fan to cool so much :(
[00:00] <tj83> Tstantonfsu what processor is it?
[00:00] <Tstantonfsu> 1.7ghz
[00:01] <tj83> Tstantonfsu what processor type?
[00:01] <eshear> why are all the links to download the db on http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/amd64/php4-cli/download broken?
[00:01] <Tstantonfsu> AMD athlon 64x2 dual core processor TK-53
[00:01] <Tstantonfsu> 1.7gh
[00:01] <tj83> Tstantonfsu sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[00:01] <Tstantonfsu> sec
[00:01] <tj83> use it to monitor cpu load and temps
[00:01] <cmX> I am installing ubunutu (8.10) on a AMD64 4000+, 2GB of ram and keep getting the error Buffer I/O error on device sr0
[00:02] <tj83> Tstantonfsu I wouldnt give anything for gkrellm.. my favorite app
[00:02] <Tstantonfsu> lol :p
[00:02] <SnakeArt> erUSUL: I think that You should take a look at this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17742/
[00:02] <Tstantonfsu> alright it installed now what lol
[00:02] <tj83> Tstantonfsu when you have it and set the way you like i will send you some themes for it
[00:02] <Tstantonfsu> wait no
[00:03] <Tstantonfsu> idk says setting up gkrellm
[00:03] <Tstantonfsu> and nothings happening o.o
[00:03] <over-life> salut
[00:03] <tj83> Tstantonfsu when its done alt+f
[00:03] <tj83> alt+f
[00:03] <tj83> gkrellm
[00:03] <tj83> ah i mean alt+f2
[00:04] <over-life> ...
[00:04] <over-life> ++
[00:04] <Tstantonfsu> how do i know when its done
[00:04] <tj83> Tstantonfsu did i e-mail you a screenshot of my desktop?
[00:04] <Tstantonfsu> nope
[00:04] <Tstantonfsu> you can upload it if thats faster
[00:04] <tj83> Tstantonfsu when its back at the command line
[00:04] <Tstantonfsu> its bakc at thecommand line now what do i do lol
[00:05] <tj83> Tstantonfsu alt+f2 then enter gkrellm
[00:05] <tj83> Tstantonfsu you will also want to add this to sessions for start at login
[00:05] <Tstantonfsu> holy shit
[00:05] <Tstantonfsu> what is this
[00:05] <SnakeArt> erUSUL: r u there?
[00:05] <tj83> :p
[00:05] <Tstantonfsu> idk what this is lmao
[00:06] <tj83> Tstantonfsu right click it at the top and click configure
[00:06] <Tstantonfsu> ok now what lol
[00:06] <tj83> Tstantonfsu then select built-in and then sensors then temps
[00:06] <tj83> check the available sensors
[00:06] <cmX> I am installing ubunutu (8.10) on a AMD64 4000+, 2GB of ram and keep getting the error Buffer I/O error on device sr0. This is a clean install and i have no idea where to go from here
[00:07] <Tstantonfsu> i click builtins and hteres nothing
[00:07] <tj83> Tstantonfsu there is nothing under built-in?
[00:07] <Tstantonfsu> nope its blank
[00:07] <tj83> let me take screen shot and send to your e-mail one min
[00:07] <HiTo> Does someone uses SSH with X option and launches Gnome under Windows? ?? i have an error "dbus_bus_acquire_service.." when launching gnome
[00:08] <jrib> cmX: 8.10 does not exist.  If you are trying to install the development version (intrepid), use #ubuntu+1
[00:08] <tj83> Tstantonfsu ah click the triangle next to built-ins
[00:08] <Tstantonfsu> aha
[00:08] <Jordan_U> HiTo, Are you using gnome-session ?
[00:08] <Dezine> I have windows on another partition but Ubuntu didn't recognize it, is there a way to redetect installed OSs and add them to the grub?
[00:09] <Tstantonfsu> then the triangle next to temperatures in sensors?
[00:09] <SnakeArt> erUSUL: are You there?
[00:09] <HiTo> Dezine you can add it manually to menu.lst
[00:09] <tj83> Tstantonfsu yes to expand it
[00:09] <Tstantonfsu> ehck off which ones
[00:10] <Tstantonfsu> temp 1 temp2 temp3 temp4 THRM are the 5 i can check off
[00:10] <tj83> check them all
[00:10] <tj83> and check e-mail too
[00:11] <Tstantonfsu> then click ok?
[00:11] <tj83> yes, you will want to come back for further config... but yes for now
[00:11] <loner269> i cant watch my movie
[00:11] <loner269>  totum says i cant vlc wont
[00:11] <loner269>  any ideas?
[00:12] <Starnestommy> loner269: is it a dvd?
[00:12] <tj83> Tstantonfsu sorry not in your inbox yet.. torrents going and slowing things up, what kind of temps? highest?
[00:12] <loner269> yea from block buster
[00:12] <Tstantonfsu> err 87.0
[00:13] <loner269> i got to see it in here couse our dvd player died last night lol
[00:13] <Tstantonfsu> o.o
[00:13] <Tstantonfsu> OC
[00:13] <Tstantonfsu> that bad
[00:13] <Tstantonfsu> oh wiat 89 lol
[00:13] <tj83> thats really bad
[00:13] <FloodBot1> Tstantonfsu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <Shak-> hey folks, I've been trying to figure out how to get VPN to work for the past three hours.. everytime I connect it just says connection failed, anyone care to look at my syslog?
[00:13] <lon3s> hi und hallo
[00:13] <tj83> Tstantonfsu what about cpu load?
[00:13] <Tstantonfsu> cpu 1 or cpu0?
[00:13] <tj83> both
[00:13] <willwh> Shak-: sure
[00:14] <Tstantonfsu> cpu - 23% cpu1 says 220 procsses i think and 1 users
[00:14] <Starnestommy> !dvd | loner269, did you try these instructions?
[00:14] <Shak-> willwh: cool, gimme a sec while I paste this
[00:14] <tj83> and cpu 0?
[00:14] <cmX> I am installing ubunutu (8.10) on a AMD64 4000+, 2GB of ram and keep getting the error Buffer I/O error on device sr0. This is a clean install and i have no idea where to go from here
[00:14] <Flannel> cmX: Do you really mean 8.10?
[00:14] <cmX> no
[00:15] <cmX> sry
[00:15] <cmX> woops
[00:15] <willwh> cmX: use the alternative install CD
[00:15] <cmX> ><
[00:15] <Tstantonfsu> cpu0 ijsut shot upto 60% cuz of the reving but is going back down to 25ish%
[00:15] <FloodBot1> cmX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <cmX> ok i will try it
[00:15] <tj83> Tstantonfsu lets take to pm for the rest of the channel
[00:15] <willwh> tj83: good thinking :)
[00:15] <tj83> sorry willwh
[00:16] <neeto> I have a USB card reader but my computer won't automount anything I plug into it. Do I need to install support for card readers
[00:16] <Shak-> willwh: here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/17748/ - I added 'debug dump' to /etc/ppp/options not sure if it helps much
[00:17] <snake> i know its a stupid question but how to copy JUST the contents of a folder to another folder ?
[00:17] <yell0w> snake: cp /path/to/folder/* /path/to/destinataion/folder
[00:18] <lns> (HARDY) Has anyone seen the issue where, when logged in via VNC, the gnome theme constantly changes back and forth?
[00:18] <willwh> Shak-: what kind of VPN you trying to connect to?
[00:18] <loner269> this things going from 7.4 ce to 7.10 thats a good thing rite?
[00:18] <knight666> how can i update to the latest release candidate of wine?
[00:18] <jrib> snake: cp -a /path/to/dir1/{*,.*} /path/to/dir2       You will miss things that start with a ., if you only do *
[00:18] <willwh> Shak-: if it's a windows VPN, I think you need to ignore a specific type of auth (I don't remember right off the top of my head)
[00:18] <Shak-> willwh: I think it's just a regular PPTP server.. not sure exactly, if it helps any it worked with the default settings on windows
[00:18] <willwh> ah
[00:18] <willwh> I am at work and close to the end of the day, don't want to fire up my VPN
[00:19] <yell0w> jrib: didn't think about that
[00:19] <yell0w> :)
[00:19] <willwh> can you pop open your options for the connection
[00:19] <knight666> how can i update to the latest release candidate of wine?
[00:19] <willwh> there are 2 check boxes for auth
[00:19] <jrib> knight666: use winehq's repository
[00:19] <jrib> !wine > knight666 (read the private message from ubottu)
[00:19] <knight666> !wine
[00:20] <Shak-> willwh: theres authenticate peer, refuse eap, refuse chap and refuse MS chap
[00:20] <loner269> yell0w:  you here?
[00:20] <theLichKing> how do i make a program start automatically when i log in?
[00:20] <jrib> !startup > theLichKing (read the private message from ubottu)
[00:21] <Dr-Willi> !autostart | theLichKing
[00:21] <Dr-Willi> theLichKing,  depends on what program.
[00:21] <Henri121> qualcuno ha fantasie su cugina?
[00:21] <Henri121> qualcuno ha fantasie su cugina?
[00:21] <knight666> jrib: i mean like "apt-get upgrade wine"
[00:21] <jrib> knight666: so do I
[00:21] <knight666> uhhhh k
[00:21] <jrib> knight666: except, once you add winehq's repository, the proper command is: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:21] <knight666> ah
[00:21] <yell0w> loner269: ye
[00:22] <knight666> i see
[00:22] <knight666> it's not in the repositories yet
[00:22] <theLichKing> thank you
[00:22] <htplainf> #ubuntu-ps3
[00:23] <jrib> knight666: it may never be in the official repositories as those only get security updates and major bug fixes.  You have a better chance of getting them from -backports.  However, if you really want it, then just add winehq's repositories
[00:23] <knight666> jrib: the previous release candidates made their way to the repositories
[00:23] <moDumass> hey all, anyone installed ubuntu on a toshiba satallite pro l20?
[00:24] <snake> jrib: i just copied it but it requires me everytime to overwrite
[00:24] <jrib> knight666: I see the latest package in universe as 0.9.59-0ubuntu4 and the latest one in winehq is 1.0~rc3~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-1
[00:24] <snake> how can i make it so it overwrite them by themself
[00:24] <jrib> snake: check 'man cp', I don't remember off the top of my head
[00:25] <knight666> jrib: but the brandnew rc4 was released only a few days ago, so it will probably take a while to reach the repositories
[00:25] <wolv> om
[00:25] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> Hello
[00:25] <jrib> knight666: k
[00:26] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> can someone please help me put xbox media center on my usb drive using ubuntu?  There are some derections that i dont really understand here http://lifehacker.com/395212/run-xbox-media-center-from-a-usb-drive  thanks
[00:27] <Dezine> Ok, it says windows is located at /dev/sdb1 so that would be (hd1,1) in grub?
[00:27] <jrib> snake: make sure you aren't calling cp -i (with an alias maybe)
[00:27]  * mneptok hugs his PS3 :)
[00:27] <n> what is the difference between postrouting and output in iptables?
[00:27] <sensouci> hello anyone got the asus s^@ep laptop webcam working ?
[00:28] <sensouci> hello anyone got the asus s62ep laptop webcam working ?
[00:28] <jrib> snake: the easy solution for you would be to use the 'yes' command
[00:29] <sensouci> did anyone got the asus s62ep laptop webcam working ?
[00:29] <con-man> my sound is not working, Im not sure where to start, I have the right device selected
[00:30] <con-man> its always worked before
[00:30] <con-man> now it just stopped
[00:31] <sensouci> xdid anyone got the asus s62ep laptop webcam working ?
[00:31] <sensouci> :'(
[00:31] <con-man> ?
[00:31] <con-man> its dead in here
[00:31] <con-man> its the idle channel
[00:31] <jrib> !patience | con-man
[00:32] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> how do I "write" xbmc.12869.img wich is at /home/luke/Desktop/xbmc.12869.img to my usb drive?
[00:32] <con-man> !rude | jrib
[00:32] <jrib> con-man: please don't do that...
[00:32] <con-man> I just said it was dead in here
[00:32] <con-man> how does that make me impatient
[00:32] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> :-/
[00:33] <BCM43> con-man: is it  a sound problem?
[00:33] <con-man> yeah
[00:33] <con-man> no sound
[00:33] <con-man> speakers work fine
[00:33] <con-man> so I know its not defective speakers
[00:33] <explosive> perkeleen homot
[00:33] <BCM43> !sound | con-man hate to give you this but at least try it first.
[00:33] <sensouci> any one with an Asus S62EP laptop ?
[00:33] <explosive> ubuntu on paska
[00:33] <jrib> con-man: check your private messages
[00:33] <BCM43> sensouci: do you have a question about it?
[00:33] <edson> my problem is microfone integrated for laptop hp pavilion dv6000...
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !fi | explosive
[00:34] <aldarsior> hello
[00:34] <aldarsior> I'm having a strange issue
[00:34] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> how do I "write" a file to my usb drive?  Does this just mean drag and drop or what?
[00:34] <Efo> Hello
[00:34] <yell0w> Psyco_Chipmunkk: yes
[00:34] <sensouci> BCM43 : yes  I cannot get the embededd webcam to work
[00:34] <BCM43> Efo: hi
[00:34] <aldarsior> I have a Via VT6421A SATA card
[00:34] <yell0w> Psyco_Chipmunkk: make sure you unmount the drive before unpluging it
[00:34] <BCM43> !webcam | sensouci
[00:34] <edson> help me?
[00:34] <BCM43> edson: ask a question
[00:35] <Efo> Hi BCM43.
[00:35] <aldarsior> and when I have more than one drive plugged into it, it only shows one drive
[00:35] <edson> my problem is microfone integrated for laptop hp pavilion dv6000...
[00:35] <aldarsior> that is, only one drive gets a /dev entry
[00:35] <sensouci> BCM43 : Thank you I ll have a look
[00:36] <Efo> Anybody can help me with nvidia drivers? After I updated from Gutsy to Hardy it seems I cant fid a way to get it work.
[00:37] <aldarsior> Efo: uninstall any instances you have of the nvidia drivers, make sure you have the latest kernel and have the latest kernel booted, then install the nvidia drivers
[00:37] <aldarsior> that includes linux-restricted-modules
[00:37] <aldarsior> that is, make sure you uninstall any instances of linux-restricted-modules
[00:38] <edson> BCM43?
[00:38] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> yellow: what exactly does writing do?  I want to write xbmc.12869.img to my usb drive
[00:38] <BCM43> edson: i have no idea, i did not mean to me. i guess i can try, do you know what model the mic is?
[00:39] <yell0w> Psyco_Chipmunkk: copy and paste in nautilus
[00:39] <Efo> aldarsior: I tried a bunch of different things, now I have envyng installed. The installation goes fine, but the resolution is low. The only evident error is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and it says: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[00:39] <edson> BCM43 my laptop is webcam and microfone integrated...
[00:39] <edson> BCM43 webcam microdia.
[00:39] <aldarsior> Efo: ...
[00:40] <virtuald> what install disk should i use to setup lvm on dm-crypt?
[00:40] <yell0w> Psyco_Chipmunkk: open nautilus, go to source folder, choose file, Ctrl-C , go to destination folder, Ctrl-V, done
[00:40] <aldarsior> Efo: you're not running the nvidia driver in X
[00:40] <BCM43> edson: look at !webcam for the webcam, but you dont know the model of the mic?
[00:41] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> yellow: whats nautilus?
[00:41] <edson> bcm43 i do no...
[00:41] <Efo> aldarsior: mhhh... I thought envyng would give me some error if it didnt work.   There are some derections that i dont really understand here http://lifehacker.com/395212/run-xbox-media-center-from-a-usb-drive
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> aldarsior Please watch the language and keep it family friendly
[00:43] <Shak-> I've been trying to get my PPTP VPN working for the past couple of hours.. even with the 'refuse chap' option selected I get connection failed everytime, anyone care to take a look at a part of my syslog? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17750/
[00:44] <Efo> aldarsior: I googled for hours trying different things. I also tried the nvidia drivers (which I used before and worked). Any good site I can follow and make a clean install?
[00:44] <aldarsior> ....
[00:44] <aldarsior> Which nvidia card do you have?
[00:44] <BCM43> edson: did you tun it?
[00:44] <Efo> nVidia Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285] (rev a1)
[00:44] <BCM43> edson: did you run it?
[00:44] <aldarsior> oooh
[00:44] <aldarsior> fancy
[00:46] <edson> BCM43, Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
[00:46] <harvey> ok, problem specified: "lpr -P myprinter file.pdf" doesn't work - but evince can print... :\
[00:46] <aldarsior> Efo: okay, so you have a new enough one that you should be able to use the universal drivers
[00:46] <Thisguy> im trying to give access to a user to /var/www/ by command: sudo chmod 777 /var/www/ but it wont change the permissions, what can i do ?
[00:47] <aldarsior> Efo: here's what I want you to do. Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (you have to be root). Find the line that says "Driver". If it says "nv" change it to "nvidia".
[00:47] <aldarsior> Then report back
[00:47] <yell0w> Thisguy: add the user to www-data group
[00:47] <Shak-> Thisguy: I think you want to use chgrp and put him in a group with permissions to read/write /var/www.. not sure though
[00:47] <tj13820> my package cache is corrupt. it just said so in update manager/
[00:48] <gerardoj> can anyone tell me the difference between a normal desktop pc and a server, I know there are plenty but what would be the main one?
[00:48] <Shak-> yeah, what yell0w said :)
[00:48] <BCM43> edson: hold on
[00:48] <BCM43> edson: http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530374
[00:48] <Efo> aldarsior: it is already set to "nvidia"
[00:48] <aldarsior> Excellent.
[00:48] <yell0w> gerardoj: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features
[00:48] <aldarsior> Okay do you know how to use your virtual terminals?
[00:49] <tj13820> gerardoj: a server "serves" files, services, and other things. i desktop PC does not. it is standard. servers usually have DHCP, BIND, APACHE, MYSQL, FTP, PHP etc.
[00:49] <Efo> Mhh.. I dont think I know how..
[00:49] <yell0w> gerardoj: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition
[00:49] <aldarsior> Okay
[00:49] <aldarsior> well first of all, type "lsmod | grep nvidia" into a terminal and tell me if it prints anything back
[00:50] <gerardoj> ok I got that, but my question is more in the hardware side, I mean cause I can buy a desktop that will serve same as if I buy a real server right?
[00:50] <Efo> nothing
[00:50] <tj13820> gerardoj: yes, if you have ethernet, HDD space, and a good processor and ram, yes.
[00:50] <aldarsior> how about "sudo modprobe nvidia"?
[00:51] <tj13820> gerardoj: also, the more you do, the more the "server" software will require underneath of the HOst operating system
[00:51] <Efo> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[00:51] <Thisguy> yell0w: how would i do that ?
[00:51] <aldarsior> uname -a ?
[00:51] <yell0w> Thisguy: sudo adduser username www-data
[00:51] <natasha> #join unifor
[00:52] <tj13820> natasha: use "/join #unifor"
[00:52] <Efo> Linux dracula2 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 19:28:38 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:52] <natasha> canal
[00:52] <aldarsior> alright then
[00:52] <codercotton> how do i set mysql to start on boot?
[00:52] <codercotton> mysqld*
[00:52] <Dot2Kode> What do you guys recommend for backing up / Achieving mp3's and other files to dvdrs?
[00:52] <tj13820> gerardoj: does that answer your question?
[00:53] <aldarsior> you need to remove any instances you have of linux-restricted-modules
[00:53] <gerardoj> tj13820: yeah, I was planning to get the  HP Media Vault Server, but for that price I can get a desktop, which one would u recommend?
[00:53] <gerardoj> http://gizmodo.com/373711/hp-media-vault-2100-linux-server-reviewed-one-kick+ass-little-penguin
[00:53] <aldarsior> I think you can use synaptic to do that, search for "linux-restricted-modules" and remove all of them
[00:54] <zenkk> So Firefox 3 RC2 is already out and we're still using Beta 5.  Does anyone know when RC2 will be in repos?
[00:54] <aldarsior> it will probably remove your nvidia drivers in the process. after it's done, tell it to install the nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx) and it should install the latest version of linux-restricted modules
[00:54] <tj13820> gerardoj: i have used a  Compaq net PC, with a 933Mhz processor, and 512Mb 333mhz ram. for my server for 2 years till i upgraded. it worked fine.
[00:54] <Efo> Should I get rid of envyng
[00:55] <tj13820> gerardoj: also, linux is minimal, so use only the services you need on the server. use a firewall, and secure your webserver
[00:55] <gerardoj> tj3820: got it, thanks!!
[00:55] <con-man> how do I check which audio card is default
[00:55] <con-man> alsamixer has the wrong one
[00:55] <tj13820> gerardoj: no problem.
[00:56] <naenae> help me
[00:56] <Efo> How about S07linux-restricted-modules-common, .nvidia_new_installed?
[00:56] <con-man> alsamixer does not have the one I want selected
[00:56] <aldarsior> my webserver is a dual proc dual core opteron with 4 gigs of ram
[00:57] <naenae> ok i need someone that i can get into a private chat with because my problem is going to take a few minutes is there anyone here that can do that
[00:57] <aldarsior> naenae: no, that way no one else can learn from your stupidity
[00:57] <naenae> lol
[00:57] <aldarsior> I mean, problem
[00:57] <aldarsior> yes...
[00:57] <con-man> there has to be a way to change the card in alsamixer
[00:57] <aldarsior> con-man: there is
[00:57] <naenae> well open up a private chat then
[00:57] <aldarsior> con-man: it's like, -c1 or something
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> aldarsior That kind of humor is lost when using irc
[00:58] <aldarsior> con-man: try -c1, -c2, etc.
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> naenae It is for your safety and the benefit of others that we ask you to keep it here
[00:58] <naenae> someone that is smart and knows ubuntu open a private chat with me
[00:58] <aldarsior> Jack_Sparrow: thanks. That's what I meant
[00:58] <con-man> still no sound
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> I know
[00:58] <con-man> this is crazy
[00:58] <aldarsior> con-man: curses!
[00:58] <con-man> it worked 20 mins ago
[00:59] <con-man> I changed nothing!
[00:59] <naenae> ok this might a take a while to answer then
[00:59] <naenae> so either just direct me to a GOOD website or write the whole paragraph to me at once then
[00:59] <Flannel> !ask | naenae
[00:59] <aldarsior> con-man: I am right though, I just checked on the machine that has two sound cards
[00:59] <aldarsior> con-man: it's -c0 and -c1
[00:59] <con-man> yes, you were
[01:00] <moDumass> hey all, trying to install linux on a toshiba stalite l20 laptop but nothing seems to get past the "instal" screen
[01:00] <moDumass> any ideas?
[01:00] <aldarsior> try catting something at /dev/sound and see what happens
[01:00] <aldarsior> moDumass: Do you happen to have an external keyboard/mouse?
[01:01] <con-man> aldarsior: catting?
[01:01] <naenae> ok ive got a belkin pcmcia card and i cant get it to install. i plug it in and it recognizes the drivers but i can seem to scan any networks. i know ill prolly need to us ndiswrapper to install the drivers but i need someone to walk me threw on how to install ndiswrapper and on how to properly install the drivers for this wifi card. it has an atheros chipset by the way.
[01:01] <aldarsior> con-man: as in cat /path/to/some/wav.file.wav > /dev/sound
[01:01] <moDumass> aldarsior i do but neither are attached during install
[01:01] <aldarsior> moDumass: try attaching them... the installer might be having trouble with the built in stuff
[01:01] <moDumass> so just using the touchpad and the keyboard that is the laptop
[01:01] <moDumass> cool
[01:01] <aldarsior> are the touchpad and the keyboard working?
[01:02] <con-man> aldarsior: there is no /dev/sound
[01:02] <aldarsior> naenae: I thought atheros chipsets were supported...
[01:02] <con-man> oooo snd
[01:02] <aldarsior> naenae: which card is it?
[01:02] <naenae> they are
[01:02] <naenae> its a belkin
[01:02] <naenae> with atheros chipset
[01:02] <aldarsior> naenae: does it have a model number?
[01:02] <naenae> ya
[01:02] <aldarsior> Can you tell me what it is?
[01:03] <naenae> one sec
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> moDumass I just checked a satellite I have here.. an loder one running gutsy and all I needed was acpi=off after F6 at the first cd menu
[01:03] <con-man> !sound
[01:04] <moDumass> Jack_sparrow, you should be on a retainer, thanks
[01:04] <naenae> brb i gotta get on the net to get it sorry
[01:04] <aldarsior> wait what?
[01:04] <aldarsior> isn't there a pcmcia version of lspci?
[01:04] <hauk> omass: OH HAI
[01:04] <aldarsior> like cat /proc/bus/pcmcia/1 or something?
[01:05] <dtolj> I have accidentally installed GRUB on hda(0,0) which is NTFS, now i am trying to boot/mount that partition and it is not recognizing it as a valid NTFS partition, any ideas how to fix this?
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> moDumass It is an older compaq satellite M35 or something.. but that was for gutsy..  FYI, I just dumped hardy on one of my Dells with ati mobility in favor or gutsy that seems to run twice as fast and effects and bcm43xx worked with no prob
[01:05] <Jordan_U> aldarsior, lspci includes pcmcia devices
[01:05] <con-man> 09:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
[01:05] <con-man> 	Subsystem: Creative Labs Unknown device 1021
[01:05] <con-man> 	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 21
[01:05] <con-man> 	I/O ports at 9f00 [size=64]
[01:05] <con-man> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[01:05] <FloodBot1> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:05] <aldarsior> dtolj: you might be able to recover your data with a data recovery program
[01:05] <con-man> oooo
[01:06] <con-man> le sigh
[01:06] <moDumass> Jack_sparrow, so thats acpi=off after all the other jazz but before the  -- right?
[01:06] <con-man>  /apologize
[01:06] <FloodBot1> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <aldarsior> con-man: chmod a+rwx /dev/snd ?
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> moDumass yes
[01:06] <moDumass> cool thanks
[01:06] <aldarsior> Jordan_U: thanks
[01:07] <dtolj> aldarsior: ok. but how could the data be effected? just boot record on that partition is wrong.
[01:07] <aldarsior> naenae: what does lspci say about it?
[01:07] <con-man> still says access denied
[01:07] <aldarsior> dtolj: umm
[01:07] <con-man> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[01:07] <Shak-> sorry for repeatedly asking.. but again, I've been trying to get my PPTP VPN working for the past couple of hours.. even with the 'refuse chap' option selected I get connection failed everytime, anyone care to take a look at a part of my syslog? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17750/
[01:07] <aldarsior> dtolj: I'm pretty sure grub writes to some sectors or something
[01:07] <aldarsior> con-man: maybe it's not called /dev/snd?
[01:08] <con-man> it is
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj grub writes the first 512 bytes of the drive/partition
[01:08] <naenae> aldarisor ok
[01:08] <aldarsior> con-man: but that's just a directory...
[01:08] <con-man> yea
[01:08] <con-man> it is
[01:08] <con-man> a dir
[01:08] <naenae> i got the exact model number its a  Belkin F5D7010 54g
[01:08] <aldarsior> con-man: chmod -R a+rwx /dev/snd
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> con-man Please stop hitting enter every three words, you have been asked a few time to stop that
[01:09] <Quintin> 22" Monitors for sale, must go ASAP: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5131739#post5131739
[01:09] <con-man> Jack_Sparrow: you are the first, I just scrolled up, but I will stop
[01:10] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, but writing those 512 bytes NTFS partition will overwrite some windows files because thats where i installed GRUB, stupid me.
[01:10] <con-man> Quintin: adverts?
[01:10] <johntramp> Hey.  In `iftop` I have a lot of bandwidth which is unexpected.  Can I see what app is causing it?
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj no.. 512 is the mbr for windows or linux
[01:10] <aldarsior> hey cool
[01:10] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: oh nice then
[01:10] <aldarsior> naenae: check it out
[01:11] <aldarsior> naenae: http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=Madwifi-ng_(Atheros)
[01:11] <aldarsior> let me know how that goes
[01:11] <naenae> aight
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj Note: 512 includes the partition info 446 first partition is 16 bytes and gets to 462 Would just be the boot info... use hda if needed on your system             copy mbr.backup to a USB Drive or other media
[01:11] <Thisguy> yell0w: im still unable to edit the files with that other username even after being added to www-data
[01:11] <naenae> be back in a bit
[01:11] <naenae> be back in a bit
[01:11] <musikgoat> Thisguy: is those files group writable?
[01:12] <aldarsior> con-man: does it work now?
[01:12] <con-man> aldarsior: no
[01:12] <con-man> aldarsior: :(
[01:12] <aldarsior> con-man: ps I  totally don't believe you that you didn't do anything to break it
[01:12] <aldarsior> con-man: did you do the thing with the chmod -R ?
[01:12] <con-man> aldarsior: of course I did something
[01:12] <con-man> aldarsior: I just dont know what
[01:12] <con-man> aldarsior: and yes, I did do that
[01:12] <aldarsior> huh
[01:12] <aldarsior> fun times
[01:13] <moDumass> Jack_sparrow, thanks, it looks like its, well its doing something, nothing visual but little lights are a flashin
[01:13] <aldarsior> have you tried rebooting?
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> con-man Please look up and stop this.. I have warned you more than once
[01:13] <moDumass> hopefully that means somehting thoiugh]
[01:13] <aldarsior> Not that I'm saying you should
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> moDumass Be patient and cross your fingerts
[01:13] <aldarsior> it just might rule some things out
[01:14] <con-man> aldarsior: many times
[01:14] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: is there a tool like fixmbr from linux to repair widows mbr
[01:14] <moDumass> Jack_sparrow, patiently platting fingertips
[01:14] <con-man> can someone do something about quintin?
[01:14] <aldarsior> con-man: is the kernel module for your card loaded?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj yes, boot windows cd and fixmbr
[01:14] <con-man> he is advertising
[01:14] <jdwilm> is there a command to test a new xorg configuration without messing with the current running xserver?
[01:15] <con-man> aldarsior: how do I check?
[01:15] <aldarsior> jdwilm: yes
[01:15] <aldarsior> con-man: lsmod
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj then if you want you can repair grub..  but use livecd to backup the mbr with the dd command
[01:15] <aldarsior> jdwilm: go into a virtual terminal, log in, and type "startx -- :1"
[01:15] <jdwilm> aldarsior: thanks!
[01:15] <aldarsior> jdwilm: when I say virtual terminal, I mean as in, tty1
[01:15] <aldarsior> do you know what that means?
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> con-man Did that awhile ago
[01:15] <Marco> How can I get boo support in monodevelop in hardy?
[01:16] <con-man> ah Im getting PMs from him
[01:16] <con-man> he is still in the channel
[01:16] <jdwilm> aldarsior: tty1?
[01:16] <musikgoat> con-man: use /ignore
[01:16] <naenae> how do i check to see if something is blacklisted
[01:17] <muchoo> hiya
[01:17] <icqnumber> jdwilm, alt + ctrl +f1, go back with alt +f7
[01:17] <moDumass> Jack_sparrow, although at some stage im hoping to see a "do you want to do anything" type prompt, which isnt a happenin just yet
[01:17] <aldarsior> jdwilm: to get to a virtual terminal, hit ctrl+alt+f[1-6]. to get back into X, hit ctrl+alt+f[7-12]... that is, your various X sessions can be anywhere between 7 and 12
[01:17] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: Does fixmbr repair the mbr on the OS partition or just start of HD?
[01:17] <con-man> snd                    56996  27 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_hda_intel,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_dummy,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
[01:17] <aldarsior> generally speaking the first one runs on 7 but for some reason on ubuntu it seems to be 8 most of the time
[01:17] <con-man> grrr
[01:17] <jdwilm> thanks!
[01:17] <con-man> sec I will pastebin it
[01:17] <timholum> hello i am wondering if anyone knows of a way to remaster 8.04 ( reconstructor does not support 8.04 yet :( )
[01:17] <aldarsior> dtolj: what's fixmbr?
[01:17] <musikgoat> aldarsior: in your experience... 7 for me
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj It should restore it so that you have windows back
[01:18] <greg_> HI,, all.  Attempting to install a usb webcam driver (gspca), and having no luck.  Help would be appreciated.  Details at http://paste.ubuntu.com/17762/
[01:18] <con-man> aldarsior: http://pastebin.ca/1040870
[01:18] <aldarsior> musikgoat: it really ought to be 7, I don't know why it's so often 8 on both of my machines
[01:18] <musikgoat> yeah odd
[01:18] <Ro_meo_> I installed 8.04 on my pc and now grub has an error so it won't give me a chance to go on with the boot process.. What is the best way to fix this? I did a reinstall with the same CD and it did not help. The CD has no errors. I did choose noacpi etc. at install time but didn't help either
[01:18] <naenae> how do i check to see if something has been blacklisted?????
[01:19] <musikgoat> !fixgrub | Ro_meo_
[01:19] <muchoo> i have an odd couple of problems which i'm guessing are interrelated: 1) when i try to go back to command line after starting x: the screen is totally black, but i can still issue commands to the command line... 2) when i leave the system sitting in x for a few minutes, the screen goes to all black and doesn't recover from that until i restart the system (i'm guessing its going into an all-black screen saver and not being able to come back to
[01:19] <musikgoat> Ro_meo_: that first link can help usually
[01:19] <muchoo> that's a lot longer than i thought it was :-/
[01:20] <Ro_meo_> @all : thanks I will give it a try tomorrow
[01:20] <jdwilm> aldarsior: is it possible to run a new X session with a config file other than the default?
[01:20] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: I did that and but win does not boot and mounting win from linux: mount /dev/sda1 win -tntfs gives error about "unexpected clusters per mft record (-1), the device does not have a valid NTFS"
[01:20] <aldarsior> jdwilm: that's what I'm saying
[01:21] <aldarsior> con-man: well that seems good
[01:21] <muchoo> i've googled my bugs and other people have experienced it on totally different hardware, but i haven't seen anybody with a solution yet
[01:21] <warriorforgod> Can anybody make a suggestion for a laptop that will run ubuntu well for around $750, with a decent graphics in it?
[01:21] <jdwilm> aldarsior: i realize it's a different X session, but is it possible to use a config file other than /etc/X11/xorg.conf, such as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.test?
[01:22] <Marco> Hey, does anyone know how to go about installing boo support for monodevelop in ubuntu hardy?
[01:22] <aldarsior> jdwilm: so you switch to your virtual terminal, by hitting, say, ctrl+alt+f1, log in, and type "startx -- :1" if it works, then your xorg.conf is good
[01:22] <aldarsior> Oh yeah you can do that
[01:22] <aldarsior> I forget how
[01:22] <aldarsior> read the manpage on startx
[01:22] <Vicfred> Hi all, is possible to load a independent subtitles from a str file without muxing them into the video file? I'm on ubuntu 8.04
[01:22] <musikgoat> warriorforgod: it's not the top of the pile anymore, but my toshiba satellite a105-s4004 works great
[01:22] <tomtommy> I just installed HArdy on a 1GB Usb Stick.  What can I remove to save space?
[01:22] <aldarsior> it's probably something like -- :1 --config=/etc/X11/xorg.conf.test
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj Boot a livecd and sudo fdisk -l   the drive
[01:22] <jdwilm> aldarsior: sounds good - thanks for the tip
[01:22] <prodigel> Hi all. I've just plugged in some tv tuner and ran xawtv and I get soe failed messages. Can someone guide me with this? thanks.
[01:22] <tomtommy> I just installed HArdy on a 1GB Usb Stick.  What can I remove to free up more space?
[01:22] <musikgoat> warriorforgod: intel graphics and wireless (open source available drivers!)
[01:22] <Izinucs> warriorforgod: I have a del vostro 1400 with nvidia upgraded graphics that works like a champ.. $549 .. dual core 2 gigs of ram
[01:22] <jdwilm> yeah i would imagine it's a simple option like that
[01:22] <aldarsior> but the easy way is to just move xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup, since it's only read when the x server starts
[01:23] <tomtommy> jdwilm: can u help me?
[01:23] <moDumass> Jack_Sparrow  it seems to get as far as a screen with the heron image int he background, with a mouse pointer, and then there seems to be, well the cd rom is reading every few seconds, bu i dont know if anything is going on, can i alt ctrl f1 - to see if anything is installing or if it has "hung"
[01:23] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: I am in linux now, fdisk -l display properly
[01:23] <warriorforgod> k.  thx guys.
[01:23] <aldarsior> tomtommy: that's just obnoxious.
[01:23] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: the NTFS partition that is
[01:23] <aldarsior> tomtommy: remove openoffice if you're not going to use it.
[01:23] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow: What can I remove from Hardy to free up space on my 1GB stick?
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> moDumass try C-A-F1
[01:24] <tomtommy> aldarsior: ah yes good idea.  anything else?
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:24] <Vicfred> Hi all, is possible to load a independent subtitles from a str file without muxing them into the video file? I'm on ubuntu 8.04
[01:24] <tomtommy> aldarsior: how can I tell how much free space my 1GB stick has?
[01:24] <aldarsior> df -h
[01:24] <WIDESPREADpanic> hey , how come package manager tries to update, and then it crashes and says it can only do partial upgrade?
[01:24] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow:  /var/cache/apt/archives ??
[01:24] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome r u in here?
[01:25] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow: do I scroll to  /var/cache/apt/archives and delete everything there?
[01:25] <tomtommy> !check free space
[01:25] <aldarsior> WIDESPREADpanic: it used to do that to me when I had non-standard repos configured.
[01:25] <aldarsior> tomtommy: df -h
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy or copy it to another media as backup
[01:25] <xenos> hmmm, i just installed kde4. i logged out of xfce and it brought me to the terminal (no gui). i'm on irssi. did "whereis kde4" said: /etc/kde4/
[01:26] <Jordan_U> Vicfred, Yes, it can be done with VLC and mplayer and probably others though I can't remember off hand how
[01:26] <xenos> so do i get kde4 going
[01:26] <WIDESPREADpanic> aldarsior did u update the sources.list or did u do it with GUI?
[01:26] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow: am I safe to delete everything in  /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[01:26] <musikgoat> tomtommy: you wont be able to delete from your user area,  go to terminal and delete with sudo
[01:26] <musikgoat> tomtommy: anything in there can be re-downloaded from the repositories
[01:26] <aldarsior> WIDESPREADpanic: I think the GUI works fine...
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy except lock and the folder named partial.. yes
[01:26] <tomtommy> musikgoat: safe to delete everything inside  /var/cache/apt/archives?
[01:26] <musikgoat> tomtommy: listen to Jack_Sparrow
[01:26] <xenos> !kde4
[01:26] <WIDESPREADpanic> is there a way to make my ubuntu desktop look just like a mac?
[01:27] <aldarsior> WIDESPREADpanic: personally I don't remember but odds are I used vi
[01:27] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow: im new to Ubuntu, please do not use jargon as I dont understand
[01:27] <aldarsior> WIDESPREADpanic: yes.
[01:27] <WIDESPREADpanic> how?
[01:27] <tomtommy> musikgoat: I cannot listen to Jack_Sparrow as I do not understand him
[01:27] <aldarsior> WIDESPREADpanic: I have no idea but I've seen it done
[01:27] <con-man> aldarsior: good good its my audigy 4 thats my card
[01:27] <musikgoat> tomtommy: there is a file called lock and a folder called partial
[01:27] <tomtommy> musikgoat: can you translate to me what he said in layman terms?
[01:27] <musikgoat> tomtommy: don't delete those
[01:27] <musikgoat> tomtommy: everything else is ok to delete
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat thanks..
[01:27] <aldarsior> con-man: I don't know man
[01:27] <tomtommy> musikgoat: ok i now understand
[01:27] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: yw
[01:28] <moDumass> Jack_Sparrow, lost mouse pointer
[01:28] <moDumass> googling
[01:28] <tomtommy> musikgoat: so I dont delete lock file and the folder called partial?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> tomtommy, Safer to just run "sudo apt-get clean"
[01:28] <musikgoat> tomtommy: correct
[01:28] <moDumass> tried forsight earlier and that was a no go
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> moDumass Keep waiting
[01:28] <tomtommy> Jordan_U: is running "sudo apt-get clean the same?
[01:28] <moDumass> will do
[01:29] <moDumass> i need a squeezy toy
[01:29] <con-man> aldarsior: I could always reinstall Ubuntu, but thats like going after a fly with a mallet
[01:29] <Jordan_U> tomtommy, Yes
[01:29] <aldarsior> con-man: yeah....
[01:29] <tomtommy> Jordan_U: thanks thats easier for me
[01:29] <Jordan_U> tomtommy, np
[01:29] <tomtommy> Jordan_U: besides office, what else can I remove to free up space?
[01:29] <aldarsior> con-man: I'm out of ideas. if your mixers are up and your kernel module is loaded ...
[01:30] <aldarsior> wait
[01:30] <aldarsior> try running your favourite media player from a terminal
[01:30] <tomtommy> !pastebin
[01:30] <finsky> hello everyone
[01:30] <aldarsior> and see if it reports any errors
[01:31] <aldarsior> esp, try running a console based one. those are good at reporting errors
[01:31] <tomtommy> can someone tell me how much FREE space I have on my 1GB USB Stick?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17765/
[01:31] <aldarsior> like mpg321 or ogg123 or something
[01:31] <musikgoat> tomtommy: its been answered a few times
[01:31] <musikgoat> tomtommy: in terminal run df -h
[01:31] <tomtommy> I cannot understand what df- h output was.  can someone please translate it?
[01:31] <tomtommy> musikgoat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17765/
[01:31] <jrib> tomtommy: Avail means available
[01:31] <tomtommy> musikgoat: how many MB free do I have?
[01:31] <aldarsior> tomtommy: is that the complete output of df -h?
[01:32] <musikgoat> tomtommy: are you running the livecd?
[01:32] <aldarsior> because I don't see a / ...
[01:32] <tomtommy> aldarsior: yes
[01:32] <Quintin> tomtommy: Doesn't look like it is mounted.  IF you open it in nautilus it will say at the status bar how much free space is on device
[01:32] <aldarsior> AH
[01:32] <jrib> tomtommy: your stick isn't there though
[01:32] <tomtommy> musikgoat: im running Ubuntu from pendrivelinux on my 1GB USB Stick
[01:33] <UBUNTUJAY123> is it possible to install two sound cards and use both them
[01:33] <aldarsior> con-man: any luck?
[01:33] <aldarsior> UBUNTUJAY123: yes
[01:33] <Quintin> UBUNTUJAY123: of course it is.
[01:33] <UBUNTUJAY123> how i do it
[01:33] <aldarsior> what do you want to do?
[01:33] <Quintin> UBUNTUJAY123: don't ask "is it possible", ask "how do I", because nearly anything is possible with linux.  Just plug them in!!
[01:33] <aldarsior> I can tell you how to control the volume on different cards
[01:33] <tomtommy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17767/  <-- this is the whole "df -h" output.  WHat does it mean? How much free space I have?
[01:33] <aldarsior> I've never tried outputting different things to them
[01:33] <tomtommy> jrib: but thats the whole output given.  why does it say 16MB?
[01:33] <aldarsior> but I'm sure it's possible
[01:34] <UBUNTUJAY123> ok i try it
[01:34] <aldarsior> tomtommy: I think it means you're lying to us
[01:34] <con-man> aldarsior: sound is very important to me, I may just reinstall
[01:34] <greg_> Trying to get gspca driver on Hardy, details at http://paste.ubuntu.com/17766/... any help would be appreciated.
[01:34] <aldarsior> con-man: no errors on the terminal?
[01:34] <con-man> no
[01:34] <dtolj> Jack_Sparrow: FYI windwoz has a back boot sector, I ran testdisk application and it detected that first and back up(at the end of partition) did not match, testdisk simple restored it, not it works.
[01:34] <aldarsior> christ
[01:34] <tomtommy> aldarsior: why are you saying such things.... I promise, that is the output given when I type "df -h"
[01:34] <aldarsior> did you try with mpg321?
[01:34] <con-man> aldarsior: whats that?
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> dtolj great
[01:34] <tomtommy> aldarsior: im running the USB versiuon of Hardy on my 1GB USB stick
[01:35] <aldarsior> tomtommy: I've never run a USB version of anything, but I"ve never seen linux without a /
[01:35] <tomtommy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17767/  <-- can someone please tell me how much free space I have on my 1GB USB Stick?
[01:35] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi guys
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> greg_ Did you look up your specific camera in the supported hardware page of the webcam wiki
[01:35] <aldarsior> tomtommy: more to the point, it says you're running out of memory
[01:35] <tomtommy> aldarsior: well thats not my problem and that doesnt give you the right to falsely accuse me of lying :(
[01:35] <musikgoat> tomtommy: there should always be a "Mounted on"  with a /  somewhere
[01:36] <tomtommy> aldarsior: I got it from pendrivelinux.com
[01:36] <tomtommy> musikgoat: well im new., what can I say?  I just typed df -h and thats the output I got
[01:36] <m_newton_> How do you run ubuntu 8.04 with all the stuff you already have of a usb???
[01:36] <aldarsior> con-man: it's a console MP3 player
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy Have you booted the old hard drive os since you did the install...  just to make sure you didnt make a mistake that installed to the hd
[01:36] <con-man> aldarsior: ah I See
[01:37] <aldarsior> so it might be more likely to report errors...
[01:37] <aldarsior> brb
[01:37] <tomtommy> musikgoat: maybe because im running this version its different.  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/08/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-via-the-live-cd/
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | greg_
[01:37] <musikgoat> tomtommy: can you type mount and show the output?
[01:37] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow: I dont have a HDD. its a 1GB USB Stick
[01:37] <tomtommy> musikgoat: ok
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy just checking
[01:38] <tomtommy> musikgoat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17768/
[01:38] <greg_> Apologies, new to IRC, trying to figure out how to indicate a particular person... wol'n let it happen again
[01:38] <dabud> anybody here that can help me with a weird ntfs-3g problem?
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> greg_ type a couple letters of a nick then hit tab
[01:38] <Bodsda> !anybody | dabud
[01:38] <musikgoat> maybe i'm wrong, but it seems you are still running your OS off the CD
[01:39] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow: i think whats causing everyone confusion is the fact that im running a Hardy USB version. not the proper HDD version.  I got it from:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/05/08/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-via-the-live-cd/
[01:39] <dabud> k bodsda
[01:39] <Bodsda> ;~)
[01:39] <tomtommy> musikgoat: my CD drive is empty
[01:39] <tomtommy> musikgoat: I only have a 1GB USB Stick in my PC
[01:39] <m_newton> !usb
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy try this in a term..   sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && lsb_release -a >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[01:40] <tomtommy> im running Hardy now from a 1GB USB stick, NO CD and NO HDD
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy pastebinit is a very small program and this will tell us all alot
[01:40] <tomtommy> Jack_Sparrow: all i wanted to do was see how much free space I have lol :P
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tomtommy You dont have a normal system and we are trying to help you..
[01:41] <dabud> very new to ubuntu/xubuntu 8.04   had ntfs-3g  all set up and working    rebooted machine  did required updates and  all of a sudden    xubuntu switched names on both ntfs drives and has denied me permission to open one of them
[01:42] <WIDESPREADpanic> how do i install a .so file, i just download a splash screen from gnome look has any one encountered a file with the extension .so? please help PEACE
[01:42] <charIie> Does anyone know how to find the name of a mysql database on the computer when you have root access?
[01:42] <jenetic1> hi
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash
[01:42] <dabud> drive one = win [windows programs
[01:42] <kitche> WIDESPREADpanic: gnome look actually tells you how to install them
[01:42] <dabud> drive 2 = music files
[01:42] <tomtommy> its ok, thanks everyone for trying.
[01:43] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: you sure it's a usplash and not a gdm splash :) which is what gnome look usually have
[01:43] <musikgoat> man, i was kinda interested in figuring out tomtommy's problem
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche GDM themes or usplash.. ?  I guess we will find out
[01:44] <musikgoat> charIie: do you know what your root mysql password is?    type sudo mysql -u root -p    and enter pass
[01:44] <WIDESPREADpanic> kitche i cqant find docs?
[01:44] <musikgoat> charIie: then in mysql type databases <enter>
[01:44] <rushin> hi all
[01:44] <dabud> hi rushin
[01:44] <charIie> musikgoat, ah! let me try that out!
[01:44] <rushin> i need help with ubuntu
[01:45] <rushin> i want to install X11
[01:45] <kitche> WIDESPREADpanic: hmm been a while sicne I've actually looked at gnomelooks but I believe the link is on the left and toward the bottom of the page
[01:45] <musikgoat> charIie: sorry, my skills are fading... its show databases;
[01:45] <tinin> rushin sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[01:45] <erichammond> rushin: Do you also want Gnome or KDE?
[01:46] <charIie> musikgoat, with the ';'?
[01:46] <musikgoat> charIie: yes
[01:46] <rushin> done
[01:46] <rushin> then
[01:46] <rushin> if i type xterm
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat tomtom was not using ubuntu..  he was using one of the derivatives.. which is why he was not forthcomming
[01:46] <rushin> and connect to server
[01:46] <rushin> is it going to work
[01:46] <tinin> do you want a desktop rushin?
[01:46] <charIie> musikgoat, awesome it worked thanks
[01:46] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: ahh that makes sens
[01:46] <musikgoat> charIie: cool
[01:47] <rushin> no...
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat I remebmer part msg like his from not long ag
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ago
[01:47] <rushin> thank you
[01:47] <SeaPhor> is calc around, i need help opening a .mso file, have to have it for a job interview
[01:47] <rushin> how do i connect to server
[01:47] <loner269> jack_sparrow im on a dirivative i guess does ubuntuce count lol
[01:47] <rushin> as now i install X11
[01:47] <kitche> SeaPhor: what kind of file is that?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat Not 100% sure.. but close
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[01:48] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: he seemed uninterested in giving that output
[01:48] <tinin> rushin I don't know how to start a graphical application then, rushin, I'd install icewm at least (it is a very lightwight and small desktop)
[01:48] <Dr-Willi> Im using LinuxMint right now. :)
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat yea.. I know.. especially where I snuck in the lsb_release -a at the end
[01:48] <SeaPhor> kitche, File sent with Microsoft Word 2000 e-mail attachments; often named "Oledata.mso;" contains information that allows the attachment to be rendered within the e-mail message.
[01:48] <rushin> is that going to work for graphical application ?
[01:48] <tinin> rushin connect to server? what server?
[01:49] <kitche> SeaPhor: maybe openoffice writer can open it not sure though
[01:49] <musikgoat> hehe
[01:49] <rushin> i want to connect to my college server
[01:49] <dabud> i have had some trouble with ntfs-3g     somehow the computer? switched names for my 2 drives  and has denied me permission on one of them  can anybody give me an idea where i might begin to solve this problem?
[01:49] <loner269> my ce 7.4 is going to 7.10 but its takeing forever lol
[01:49] <mshanks> what does it mean when you open a video file but it won't play? (it shows a frame if I drag the timer to it, but it won't actually play the film)
[01:49] <SeaPhor> kitche, lol, thats why i was hoping calc was on,,, thats what he does :-)
[01:49] <Bodsda> !ot | loner269
[01:50] <Dr-Willi> dabud,  install and run the 'ntfs-config' tool and check to allow users full access.. perhaps..
[01:50] <tinin> I don't know what you want to do, icewm will help you if you need graphical applications rushin
[01:50] <musikgoat> mshanks: could be that the file is not supported,  missing codecs possibly
[01:50] <jdwilm> How can i start a second xserver using a config file not located at /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:50] <dabud> k dr-Willi
[01:50] <loner269> so what i cant talk in here now?
[01:50] <nentis> is there a more specific channel for Hardy kvm help?
[01:51] <rushin> uhm
[01:51] <rushin> is there any way that i can run using X11
[01:51] <Bodsda> loner269, you can talk in here only if related to a support question/answer otherwise #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:51] <mshanks> musikgoat, ok, once I know what codec the movie was encoded with, how do I see if I have that codec?
[01:51] <kitche> rushin: install xorg package
[01:51] <tinin> run what rushin
[01:51] <rushin> because xterm is giving me error msg like ""Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display""
[01:51] <rushin> X11
[01:51] <SeaPhor> kitche, this site says only ms office and outlook can do it, but i know ubuntu and OO are better than that ;-)
[01:52] <kitche> rushin: well xterm is a xorg application
[01:52] <SeaPhor> kitche, http://www.fileinfo.net/extension/mso
[01:52] <tinin> xterm is a graphical application
[01:52] <tinin> so you need a desktop
[01:52] <Dr-Willi> rushin,  you need to either ssh -X to the remote, or set up the proper DISPLAY, variables
[01:52] <tinin> if you are going to use a console, you don't need xterm
[01:52] <rushin> how
[01:53] <Dr-Willi> rushin,  depending on what you are doing exactly. Perhaps rephrase/clarify the question.
[01:53] <rushin> i tried using console
[01:53] <rushin> but it gave me same error
[01:53] <rushin> i want to connect to a server and use graphical application
[01:53] <rushin> so i tried to run xterm
[01:54] <musikgoat> mshanks: there is a single package that contains alot, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:54] <rushin> and ssh rushin@<servername>
[01:54] <Dr-Willi> rushin,   in a terminal, 'ssh -X remote.machine.ip.orname'  then run the app...
[01:54] <rushin> but when i connected to it...and try to run firefox..it said "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display"
[01:54] <Dr-Willi> rushin,  the -X is the impiorntant bit.
[01:55] <tinin> and doing that on a desktop too, I guess rushin
[01:55] <kitche> rushin: ok run ssh -Y <remote host> you could use -X but I like -Y myself
[01:55] <Dr-Willi> I thought -Y was for local networks. :)  but ive used both.
[01:55] <eraldo> in nautilus... when rightclicking a file, there is a "Notes"-tab.. Question: is there a way to view or right content to that tab using the command line ?
[01:55] <rushin> oh
[01:55] <m_newton> omg, VLC is awesome, if you want to know how to get free streams of music directly from VLC... PM me (This bypasses all the school/work filtering)
[01:55] <rushin> ssh -x  <hostname>
[01:55] <kitche> Dr-Willi: nope one is just trusted the other is untrusted
[01:55] <Dr-Willi> rushin,  its -X   wuth UPPER case X
[01:56] <dabud> i get this msg
[01:56] <rushin> oh
[01:56] <dabud>  An error occured when trying to configure
[01:56] <dabud>  /media/VIDEOSTORE
 what do you mean
[01:56] <Bodsda> eraldo, i see no such tab
[01:56] <Dr-Willi> WiTh liNuX CaSe Is ImPorAntAnt!
[01:57] <rushin> at  last
[01:57] <rushin> got it
[01:57] <rushin> thanks
[01:57] <Bodsda> VIDEOSTORE != videostore
 do you wish to know how to edit file via terminal
[01:57] <MOD-Blake> What command do I type to find out what kind of Wireless card I have?
[01:57] <Bodsda> lspci
[01:57] <Bodsda> MOD-Blake, ^^
[01:57] <MOD-Blake> I tried that
[01:57] <musikgoat> MOD-Blake: lsusb maybe
[01:57] <Bodsda> MOD-Blake, pastebin your output of lspci
[01:57] <Bodsda> or lsusb
[01:58] <rushin> thank you titin and Dr-Willi
[01:58] <m_newton> what does lsusb do??
[01:58] <dabud> i am going to have to comeback l8r   company  dropped in  ty
[01:58] <rushin> i was trying to figure that out from last 3 hr ..
[01:58] <Bodsda> m_newton, gives you info on usb devices
[01:58] <m_newton> never mind
[01:58] <Lynet> m_newton: Lists usb devices.
 do you wish to know how to edit file via terminal
[01:59] <fdhdh> is there a CD with ubuntu packages on it related to development in general
[01:59] <MOD-Blake>  Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[01:59] <Bodsda> i only know of aptoncd whichisnt dev but has packages
[01:59] <selocol> almost 50% of the time when i log out, i get a black screen instead of the login window. all keys are also ineffective.
[01:59] <fdhdh> i was surprised the hardy heron cd I downloaded didnt have hardly any dev utils
[01:59] <selocol> how do i fix this issue?
[02:01] <eraldo> m_newton: in nautilus ...when you rightclick on a file and then go to properties... that's where the notes tab is
[02:01] <Bodsda> fdhdh, why would a desktop release intended for average users contain dev tools/files?
[02:01] <Bodsda> eraldo, you add things by typing in the big white space on that tab
[02:01] <matt444> when I try to print in Evince and i select the printer I want to use, the "Print" button greys out!!!  What could be causing this.  I can print test pages with the Administration > Printing application but I can't print from Evince or Epiphany.  what is causing this problem!!
[02:01] <fdhdh> i dont know, if they have to compile anything that isnt a packaged bundle
[02:01] <m_newton> eraldo, ya but what do you want to do
[02:02] <anonimus> hi, i have problem transfering files on my usb, i find it with fdisk -l , then mount it, but it always get "Permision denied" msg, on windows works fine..
[02:02] <Bodsda> fdhdh, there isnt much space in the iso for things like that, due to its userfriendly (ish) nature
[02:02] <aldarsior> fdhdh: then they can install gcc ?
[02:02] <eraldo> Bodsda: -.- sure but how can I look at or edit text like this with the command line
[02:02] <Bodsda> eraldo, do you mean, how to add text to the note section of a file? no idea
[02:02] <aldarsior> fdhdh: if you're going to compile custom versions of things I think you ought to be able to type 'apt-get install gcc'
[02:02] <Bodsda> via cli
[02:03] <eraldo> Bodsda: yep that is what I am looking for
[02:03] <Ahadiel> fdhdh, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:03] <eraldo> Bodsda: it has to be saved somewhere...
[02:03] <Bodsda> eraldo, not sure il have a google -- true
[02:04] <eraldo> Bodsda: I did google but no results.. (no luck)
[02:04] <matt444> when I try to print in Evince and i select the printer I want to use, the "Print" button greys out!!!  What could be causing this.  I can print test pages with the Administration > Printing application but I can't print from Evince or Epiphany.  what is causing this problem!!
[02:05] <con-man> aldarsior: sudo alsa reload; that worked
[02:05] <Tux> what is ubuntustudio
[02:05] <aldarsior> god damn
[02:05] <con-man> lol
[02:05] <aldarsior> con-man: congratulations
[02:05] <yeonhoo> warning: thread.h: No such file or directory threadtest threadtest.c. What package should I install??
[02:05] <con-man> aldarsior: ty
[02:05] <Jordan_U> !ohmy | aldarsior
[02:05] <loner269> yawn
[02:05] <Bodsda> eraldo, they are stored here -- /.nautilus/metafiles/file:*
[02:05] <con-man> Jordan_U: lolwut?
[02:06] <Bodsda> eraldo, they are stored here -- ~/.nautilus/metafiles/file:*
[02:06] <Bodsda> loner269, this is a busy channel please refrain from making pointless posts as it only adds to the channels congestion
[02:07] <anonimus> hi, i have problem transfering files on my usb, i find it with fdisk -l , then mount it, but it always get "Permision denied" msg, on windows works fine..
[02:07] <yeonhoo> What package should I install ????? i cant compile "thread.h"
[02:07] <loner269> im sorry bob i forgot you dont want me in here ill go
[02:07] <Bodsda> loner269, i didnt say that
[02:08] <anonimus> and now, when i try to move them as root i get Cannot chown target...
[02:08] <loner269> ya told me go to another chat
[02:08] <matt444> when I try to print in Evince and i select the printer I want to use, the "Print" button greys out!!!  What could be causing this.  I can print test pages with the Administration > Printing application but I can't print from Evince or Epiphany.  what is causing this problem!!
[02:08] <loner269> an gave me a list
[02:08] <mshanks> ok the wierdest thing is happening on my machine
[02:08] <buggyman> Hello, I'm on a friends system and he's having issues with random freezes. There are instructions on launchpad which describe installing the Ibex kernel which has been reported to resolve this issue for most people, but the Ibex kenrel doesn't show up in apt-get when I follow it... are there other instructions available?
[02:09] <Bodsda> loner269, i said dont post pointless things in here. i dont mind you idling but this channel has alotof people asking questions and posts like "<loner269> yawn" just make things more confusing
[02:09] <mshanks> I can't play any video in any player, and I can't get into the admin part for the login window
[02:09] <yell0w> k/41
[02:09] <mshanks> Jun  7 02:01:47 mattdesktop pulseaudio[5429]: module-alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[02:09] <mshanks> Jun  7 02:03:26 mattdesktop dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0 for sub-path wlan0.dbus.get.reason
[02:09] <mshanks> both keep popping up aswell
[02:09] <eraldo> Bodsda: oh... I was hoping they are stored _in_ the file
[02:10] <Bodsda> eraldo, nope,.,.sorry
[02:10] <ish_nitti> Anyone else thought this weeks Diggnation was the live show?
[02:10] <Bodsda> buggyman, you can download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <slyboots> Hey, Anyone else having issues with the latest kernel update disabling Wifi on Macbook pro machines?
 !ot | loner269
 loner269: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:11] <loner269> is what you said
[02:11] <yeonhoo> warning: thread.h: No such file or directory threadtest threadtest.c. What package should I install??
[02:11] <buggyman> Bodsda: thanks
[02:11] <Bodsda> buggyman, your welcome
[02:11] <loner269> never mind im out thanks for not helpin a newbie
[02:11] <ish_nitti> loner269, Bodsda, i just shot off a OT a second ago :)
[02:11] <ish_nitti> i do that from time to time..
[02:11] <Bodsda> loner269, if you want to continue this discussion please let me know and we'll move to #ubuntu-ops
[02:12] <ish_nitti> owned.
[02:12] <musikgoat> helpin? yawn was his last response?!?
[02:12] <alan_m> brb playing with gimp
[02:12] <slyboots> Since I upgraded to 2.6.24-18, my Athos wifi card as stopped working
[02:12] <slyboots> Tried downloading the latest version of MadWifi from SVN and installing that, but its not detecting my card anymore
[02:13] <musikgoat> slyboots: if you reload -17 it works?
[02:13] <slyboots> Yup
[02:13] <slyboots> Well -16
[02:13] <slyboots> Nwo that -18 has come along its just shunted -16 off my system completly, now I cant go back
[02:14] <slyboots> So my wireless is now totally disabled
[02:14] <musikgoat> slyboots: seen this? http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=21&p=11425
[02:14] <Bodsda> slyboots, you can download it from synaptic or packages.ubuntu.com
[02:14] <mjburling> I have an eeepc with a fresh Heron install and need to get the wireless working without having a wired connection.
[02:14] <ragedracer> I see keila is at it again
[02:14] <Flannel> slyboots: New kernels don't remove the old ones, unless you manually removed the packages, they're still there.  They may not be visible on grub due to a limitation on the number of kernels listed however.  You can change that number.
[02:15] <musikgoat> mjburling: with no cdrom putting packages on usb would be the best bet... download what you need on another machine
[02:15] <slyboots> Hmm.. well would rather get the Wireless just working again
[02:15] <eraldo> Bodsda: thank you for finding out for me !
[02:15] <SeaPhor> slyboots, is that the only reason you want to go back, what if you could fix your wireless?
[02:15] <Bodsda> eraldo, no probs ;~)
[02:15] <buggyman> Bodsda: packages.ubuntu.com is taking forever to respond :/
[02:16] <Bodsda> buggyman, yeah it will do due to loadsa people doing the latest release downloads
[02:16] <slyboots> Aye, Im trying to fix the wireless so I dont have to keep rolling back
[02:16] <eraldo> Bodsda: hm... maybe you have an other idea... may I pm you to describe what I need ?
[02:16] <mjburling> Well, I have this machine up and running...
[02:16] <Bodsda> eraldo, sure
[02:16]  * sinsun Mariah's touching my body
[02:16] <DaveKong> Can anyone tell me good applications or methods to use for testing your computer speed?
[02:16]  * musikgoat Lon Harris's touching my body
[02:17] <slyboots> And that UrL has not helped at all
[02:18] <musikgoat> slyboots: oh well... worth a shot
[02:18] <Ian_Daniher> ok, so I have a hard drive displaying no partitions
[02:18] <Ian_Daniher> it's from a win95 computer
[02:18] <Ian_Daniher> I put it in a portable usb enclosure
[02:18] <SeaPhor> slyboots, what wire;ess card do you have?
[02:18] <Ian_Daniher> now showing /dev/sdb
[02:19] <SeaPhor> slyboots, what *wireless card do you have?
[02:19] <Ian_Daniher> anyone have *any* ideas?
[02:19] <slyboots> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5418 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[02:19] <slyboots> Its a Macbook Pro (Santa Rose)
[02:19] <musikgoat> slyboots: your not the only person: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5121610#post5121610
[02:20] <slyboots> So.. no solution then?
[02:21] <WootOnLinux> quick question:  Is there anyway for a PIdgin user to recieve AIM offline msgs?
[02:21] <musikgoat> slyboots: that  musical1too said it is
[02:21] <WootOnLinux> We can send AIM msgs now, but we cant recieve them?
[02:21] <musikgoat> WootOnLinux: ask in #pidgin
[02:21] <slyboots> I tried that, does not work.
[02:21] <WootOnLinux> k tnx
[02:22] <slyboots> Does not seem tow ork for the guy on the forums either.
[02:22] <SeaPhor> slyboots, unles you want to go usb,,, then this chipset https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsAirlink101
[02:22] <slyboots> .. the card does work
[02:22] <slyboots> It worked till.. today
[02:22] <slyboots> :P
[02:22] <musikgoat> slyboots: As you suggested, I did
[02:22] <musikgoat> sudo modprobe ath_pci
[02:22] <musikgoat> and within 15 seconds I was prompted by kdewallet for the password to get connected.
[02:22] <slyboots> Why the hell has it just "stopped" working
[02:22] <slyboots> .. I tried that, it *did not work*
[02:22] <musikgoat> yeah
[02:23] <pinkey> I just upgraded my laptop to ubuntu 8.04, and while on the previous version the screen worked, now it cannot detect it, and gives 640x480 resolution only.  Sony VIAO vgn-cr190
[02:24] <WootOnLinux> another quick question:  anyone get their gateway m285 tablet (finepoint digitizer) working on Hardy?
[02:24] <deeperror> any info on laptop sdcard reader?
[02:25] <taya> ?
[02:25] <slyboots> slyboots@Seth:~/src/madwi/madwifi-ng-r3366+ar5007$ sudo modprobe ath_pci
[02:25] <slyboots> FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:26] <Mr_Bad_News> how do i see how much ram i have?
[02:26] <deeperror> Mr_Bad_News, top?
[02:27] <Mr_Bad_News> whats the command to see just memory
[02:27] <Mr_Bad_News> not memory usage
[02:27] <Dr-Willi> Mr_Bad_News,  the 'free' command
[02:27] <Mr_Bad_News> thanks Dr-Willi
[02:27] <WootOnLinux> cmon does no one know?
[02:27] <slyboots> So what now? :P
[02:27] <FruitPastel> I dont suppose anyone here plays Ultima Online?
[02:27] <emosamurai> I'm just wondering: why does ipv6 slow down the internet for me? I just blacklisted it.
[02:27] <Bodsda> hey guys,.,.how can i tell when a file was created not when it was last modified?
[02:28] <slyboots> I used to years ago FruitPastel
[02:28] <deeperror> slyboots, what did dmesg say?
[02:28] <warriorforgod> FruitPastel: Not for about 5 years.
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda,  filesystem only keeps track of the one date as far as i know.  thats it.
[02:28] <FruitPastel> Hmm, trying to find a good server
[02:28] <slyboots>   698.465452] ath_pci: disagrees about version of symbol ath_hal_getwirelessmodes
[02:28] <slyboots> [  698.465456] ath_pci: Unknown symbol ath_hal_getwirelessmodes
[02:28] <FruitPastel> Just quit one called Lothlorien
[02:28] <murgi_chor> i wanna get a new desktop and i wanna install ubuntu on it ... any recommendations? i want nice stuff but don't wanna get rippd off
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> FruitPastel,  there are other Free MMORPGS out there. :)
[02:28] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis, kk cheers
[02:29] <FruitPastel> Yeah but the PVP system is awesome on UO
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> murgi_chor,  there are machines with  Linux allready on them. :)
[02:29] <NSsmiles> hi guys
[02:29]  * mattwj2002 is shocked 1182 can fit in a room
[02:29] <mattwj2002> :D
[02:29] <mattwj2002> big room!
[02:29] <murgi_chor> Dr_Willis are u taklin bout the Dells? or is there other ones?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> FruitPastel,  PvP  is one of the reasons i do NOT play mmorpgs much.
[02:29] <mattwj2002> hi NSsmiles
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> murgi_chor,  walmart.com has some :) $200 range.
[02:29] <NSsmiles> can you tell me if i can work a lexmark printer with ubuntu
[02:29] <murgi_chor> ne thing else Dr_Willis?
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> murgi_chor,  time to hit the google. there are dozens of sites that well preinstalled linux machines.
[02:30] <Mr_Bad_News> Dr_Willis, i just installed a new ram chip in my laptop both are 512mb but it only says i have 883
[02:30] <erichammond> Bodsda: "ls -lc" shows the "ctime" (last modification of file status information) which can sometimes be the create time.
[02:30] <Mr_Bad_News> is this right?
[02:30] <sensouci> Hello does any one has got a Asus S62EP laptop ?
[02:30] <FruitPastel> Not the whole PWNED NUB, i dislike that too, but the actual way UO pvp operates and how it requires some skill rather thn just button bashing
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Bad_News,  no idea. could be the vbideo card taking some of the ram.
[02:30] <Bodsda> erichammond, yeah ,.,.but i need to know when it was created not last modded ,.,.ty ayway
[02:30] <deeperror> slyboots, what kernel
[02:31] <slyboots> 2.6.24-18-generic
[02:31] <musikgoat> Mr_Bad_News: cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i memtotoal
[02:31] <musikgoat> Mr_Bad_News: cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i memtotal
[02:32] <Mr_Bad_News> thats the one musikgoat  thank you
[02:32] <sensouci> does any one has got a Asus S62EP laptop ? I cant get the embedded webcam to wor
[02:32] <Mr_Bad_News> 905024 kB
[02:32] <deeperror> slyboots, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=558421&page=2
[02:32] <musikgoat> Mr_Bad_News: yeah... maybe video card is usuing memory
[02:33]  * slyboots will try a reboot then..
[02:33] <josef> guys how do i get kde4 on gutsy in a most simply way instead follow intruction on kubuntu.org
[02:33] <Mr_Bad_News> how much is 905024 kB
[02:33] <Mr_Bad_News> 1gig?
[02:33] <bazhang_> josef, hardy or gutsy
[02:33] <musikgoat> no, under
[02:33] <Jordan_U> josef, Why not upgrade?
[02:33] <Starnestommy> musikgoat: about 900MB
[02:33] <Dr_Willis>  kubuntu-kde4-desktop - Kubuntu desktop system
[02:34] <bazhang_> that's for hardy though
[02:34] <bazhang_> gutsy you need to add a ppa repo
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> :) i would consider the best way to test kde4 is to use a kde4 live cd...
[02:34] <josef> upgrade on my laptop wont boot even with olddetect and pnpdetect jordan_u
[02:35] <deeperror> you make me hungry
[02:35] <ijustam> wow this chat is usually flooded with questions
[02:35] <ijustam> what gives
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> ijustam,  been seeing questions all day.....
[02:36] <Mr_Bad_News> dont jinx it ijustam
[02:36] <WootOnLinux> well the pidgin channel wasnt much help
[02:36] <ijustam> too late i imagine
[02:36] <josef> bazhang_ i got gutsy
[02:36] <WootOnLinux> anyone here use pidgin? can u recceive AIM offline msgs?
[02:36] <grim76> Looks like you just asked a question ijustam
[02:36] <ijustam> touche
[02:36] <SeaPhor> josef,  have you tried to edit the boot options? what laptop do you have?
[02:36] <ijustam> so for fun i disabled my video drivers
[02:36] <Mr_Bad_News> which is better virtual box or vmware?
[02:36] <bazhang_> Mr_Bad_News, you have 1gb of ram? then some will be used by the system as it is running-->that sounds about right (the number you gave)
[02:37] <ijustam> that made my afternoon slightly more interesting
[02:37] <Mr_Bad_News> k bazhang_
[02:37] <bazhang_> josef, no easier way outside of upgrading to hardy
[02:37] <fp2007> hey guys, im back again, was wondering if anyone could help me further,. I was working on replacing grub, including the missing /boot/grub folder, I pretty much did this, and grub even comes up in the beginning, but for some reason, no matter what kernel I choose to boot, it says, cannot be found, or something along those lines. anyone have a clue whats going on?
[02:37] <Mr_Bad_News> all i wanted was to get virtualbox running
[02:37] <Mr_Bad_News> before when i tried installing windows it would freeze with 512mb
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> enabling the proper repos, and apt-get installing stuff.. is rather easy...
[02:38] <xborgy> Hello all...when i put my Trash icon on the desktop and change the icon to the one i want it works but it doesnt change to the full icon when i put something in the trash.Does anyone know how to make this work? (I'm trying to use a MAC OS trash can empty/full icons.)
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> Mr_Bad_News,  depends on what you are doing. VirtualBox has improved lately - where i use it more then vmware. but the next vmware releases - has some neat new features.
[02:38] <WootOnLinux> Badnews: go with vmware
[02:38] <WootOnLinux> its more versatile, virtual box is easier, but its worth it to install vmware
[02:38] <WootOnLinux> i was in ur position a few wks ago.
[02:39] <bazhang_> xborgy, is this known to work?
[02:39] <josef> seaphor: i got a local brand Axioo its using SIS graphicscard and using SATA and i tried install Xubuntu but could read the harddisk the boot option was noapic acpi=off olddetect pnpdetect=off
[02:39] <Mr_Bad_News> i cant get vmware running
[02:39] <fp2007> I tried virtual box and qemu to run XP from within Linux, and my opinion is virtualbox is better, faster and more stable to me
[02:39] <Mr_Bad_News> i did the patch
[02:39] <WootOnLinux> are u using hardy?
[02:39] <Mr_Bad_News> and it still does that thing where it says starting up and does nothing
[02:39] <Mr_Bad_News> no gutsy
[02:39] <Shandel[[WHOA]]> ver irc.icq.com
[02:39] <xborgy> bazhang_: it works with the default trash empty/full icons why wouldnt it work when you change them?
[02:39] <NSsmiles> lexmark 1200 series printer is not on the list for ubuntu
[02:39] <WootOnLinux> oh wait, is this what happens: You click ur vmware icon
[02:39] <WootOnLinux> it says "Starting vmware" for a bit, then nothing?
[02:40] <xborgy> what do i do backup the default trash icons...then replace with the mac ones?
[02:40] <Mr_Bad_News> yea WootOnLinux
[02:40] <xborgy> think that would work?
[02:40] <pokerfacepenguin> anyone got a deluo usb gps device working under ubuntu without using wine?
[02:40] <cary_jebus[UDCS|> hey
[02:40] <bazhang_> xborgy, not my question; do you know that replacing the icons will work? have you replaced the full trash icon as well?
[02:40] <SeaPhor> josef, instead of the noapic did you try deleting quiet and splash and adding vga=771 to the kernel line?
[02:40] <cary_jebus[UDCS|> Linux Newbe here
[02:41] <WootOnLinux> Mr_Bad_News:  It was easy for me to solve that prob .. i simply uninstalled the package, and then i re installed it via synaptic
[02:41] <xborgy> bazhang_: i placed the trash icon on my desktop i changed the icon to the empty MAC OS Panther icon but i need to know how to change the full trash icon
[02:41] <WootOnLinux> Mr_Bad_News: worked just fine, just make sure u keep ur old settings
[02:41] <fp2007> if there is anyone available to help with my grub problem, please let me know, I really dont want to have to reinstall, any help is greatly appreciated.
[02:41] <Morgie> i  am having network connection issues with 8.01 i cant get ubuntu to conect to my dsl modem
[02:41] <Cary_Jebus> anyone know how to install GDM themes
[02:41] <Mr_Bad_News> well i already got virtualbox running and its 99% done installing windows
[02:41] <Cary_Jebus> :\
[02:41] <WootOnLinux> ahh well
[02:41] <Mr_Bad_News> i just need it to run rosetta stone for french lessons
[02:41] <bazhang_> xborgy, you did this thinking it would work, or read somewhere it would work
[02:42] <josef> seaphor no i didnt
[02:42] <Cary_Jebus> Mr bad
[02:42] <Mr_Bad_News> im not using it for anything else so ....
[02:42] <WootOnLinux> Mr_Bad_News u like rosetta stone?
[02:42] <Cary_Jebus> why dont you just use wine
[02:42] <Mr_Bad_News> yea
[02:42]  * WootOnLinux slaps ia around a bit with a large trout
[02:42] <Mr_Bad_News> doesnt work Cary_Jebus
[02:42] <WootOnLinux> Mr_Bad_News how effective would u say it is?
[02:42] <Mr_Bad_News> the graphics lag
[02:42] <Cary_Jebus> :\
[02:42] <deeperror> Mr_Bad_News, you learning anything on that program?
[02:42] <NSsmiles> is there anyway i can use my printer with ubuntu
[02:42] <NSsmiles> ?
[02:42] <Angelic> Hi, I just reinstall ubuntu gutsy, then upgraded it to hardy. for some reason my compiz is giving alot of error about some pluggin and it seems like my ubuntu has mem leak....
[02:42] <Cary_Jebus> anyone know how to install GDM themes
[02:42] <Mr_Bad_News> its pretty good WootOnLinux deeperror
[02:42] <Morgie> i  am having network connection issues with 8.01 i cant get ubuntu to conect to my dsl modem
[02:42] <bazhang_> !themes | Cary_Jebus
[02:42] <Mr_Bad_News> i've only used it a  couple times but if i get really into it im sure i'll be fluent
[02:42] <cowbud> Morgie, did it work before you upgraded?
[02:42] <Angelic> any help would be greatly appreciated
[02:42] <Cary_Jebus> !themes
[02:43] <WootOnLinux> Mr_Bad_News coo i was thinkign about french and italian on it
[02:43] <Cary_Jebus> nono
[02:43] <Cary_Jebus> how to install them
[02:43] <deeperror> Mr_Bad_News, i see it on tv how much does it cost to go to the max
[02:43] <Mr_Bad_News> yea i got french russian spanish and arabic
[02:43] <Morgie> cowbud this is a fresh install on my new computer
[02:43] <xborgy> bazhang_: i'm doing this on my own i didnt read it i didnt think it i'm just doing it,whats your point man? Do you know the answer or not?
[02:43] <cowbud> Morgie, I meant your DSL..
[02:43] <Mr_Bad_News> i think its 250$ or something
[02:43] <Cary_Jebus> I downloaded a theme but when i install it i get a error
[02:43] <Mr_Bad_News> i got mine from a friend though
[02:43] <WootOnLinux> deeperror u see booths at the mall , they let u try it
[02:43] <cowbud> Morgie, are you connecting the DSL directly to your hardy install or through a router?
[02:43] <NSsmiles> brb
[02:43] <Morgie> cowbud, i am on my laptop running 7.01 on it now
[02:43] <josef> seaphor do i know the bootoption for to read SATA harddisks
[02:43] <deeperror> WootOnLinux, i try to avoid the mall
[02:44] <WootOnLinux> deeperror :P well then
[02:44] <Morgie> i am connected thru a cable modem, sorry
[02:44] <bazhang_> xborgy, trying to get more info to help you
[02:44] <WootOnLinux> Does ANYONE know if u can recieve an AIM offline message while using pidgin??
[02:44] <cowbud> Morgie, and is it directly connected to the ehternet device then?
[02:44] <Starnestommy> WootOnLinux: I think so
[02:44] <Y-Town> Which would be the better choice for a small home network: ProFTP, PureFTP, WU FTP?  looking to be able to let customers see pictures and share documents with friends
[02:44] <josef> seaphor i mean do you know the boot option to read sata harddisk
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> WootOnLinux,  that would seem to be a rather basic feature. I think its doable.
[02:44] <Morgie> cowbud, not now, currently using the line for this compy
[02:45] <cowbud> Morgie, but the other one is booted up?
[02:45] <xborgy> bazhang_: if the default trash icons on the desktop can change from empty to full icons when its sopose too wouldnt you think you can change them icons? i mean for sure you could i mean.
[02:45] <WootOnLinux> Starnestommy:  U are a pidgin user and u recieve offline msgs?
[02:45] <Morgie> yea
[02:45] <deeperror> WootOnLinux, i think i get them sometimes i'm hardly offline so not really sure ha
[02:45] <SeaPhor> josef, does it not see your HDD?
[02:45] <cowbud> Morgie, ok do you know how to open gnome-terminal so you get a command prompt?
[02:45] <Morgie> oh yeah\
[02:45] <xborgy> i changed the icon but thats all you can do is change it to a empty or a full icon.
[02:45] <Cary_Jebus> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[02:45] <WootOnLinux> deeperror : really? wtf did i do somethign wrong on my computer?
[02:45] <cowbud> what does ifconfig tell you?
[02:45] <Starnestommy> WootOnLinux: I think so.  Do you want me to try sending you one as a test?
[02:45] <WootOnLinux> Starnestommy: yes thatd be great!!! hold on let me pm u
[02:46] <SeaPhor> josef, it sees your sata in gutsy, that part should be no different
[02:46] <xborgy> now however i beleive i might just beable to find a Widget trashcan icon that would work for me.If there is one.
[02:46] <Morgie> i have my terminal window open right now
[02:46] <fp2007> hey is there any other irc chat rooms that specialize in ubuntu/grub help that I can go ask in? I know there are different ones for different countries, unfortunately, this is the only one I could connect to
[02:46] <cowbud> Morgie, what happens when you type ifconfig?
[02:47] <xborgy> either a Widget or Desklet.
[02:47] <josef> seaphor ubuntu xubuntu and fedora doesnt see partition only on kubuntu gutsy i can install only with the option that i showed too you
[02:47] <Morgie> it tells me all the info i should get
[02:47] <bazhang_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=524965&page=2 xborgy
[02:47] <cowbud> Morgie, you are going to have to provide a little bit more info if you want help not just the bare minimum
[02:48] <slyboots> Cool, a reboot fixed it after I installed the new modules into the kernel :)
[02:48] <Morgie> ok i forgot what it is to send the link for the codes
[02:48] <SeaPhor> then add both options, the noapic and the vga=771, and in that order
[02:48] <slyboots> I have wireless again, and now it does not cause a kernel panic when rubbing kismet :)
[02:48] <Morgie> !pastebin
[02:48] <slyboots> Thanks everyone for your help :)
[02:48] <SeaPhor> and in the kernel line
[02:48] <xborgy> bazhang_: oh wow!!!! whos the man? your the man!
[02:48] <SeaPhor> josef, and in the kernel line
[02:48] <Morgie> just a sec please
[02:48] <xborgy> bazhang_: Thanks alot bro! i will give that a try.
[02:48] <SeaPhor> xborgy, yep he is
[02:49] <josef> seaphor i will try it again thanks
[02:49] <xborgy> SeaPhor: =)
[02:49] <musikgoat> awesome slyboots
[02:49] <deeperror> slyboots, cool stuff
[02:49] <slyboots> :
[02:49] <slyboots> :)
[02:49] <SeaPhor> josef, just a shot,,, was the only thing that worked for me
[02:49] <bazhang_> 99% of solutions are typing your search terms into a search engine and reading the relevant ubuntuforums link
[02:49] <mohamed_> i have more than small iso files, is it possible to burn more than one into CD and choose from them when install ?
[02:50] <xborgy> bazhang_: I am going to try that now will let you know just a sec.
[02:50] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm having a slight problem that's emerged in the last firefox update
[02:50] <musikgoat> mohamed_: not easily
[02:50] <cowbud> Morgie, how are you able to paste that?
[02:50] <jscinoz> firefox segfaults whenever it completes a download, any ideas how i can fix this?
[02:50] <josef> seaphor its just a shot but who knows it can be helpfull too release the headache. and again thanks
[02:50] <deeperror> bazhang_, some need help on that
[02:50] <mohamed_> thanks musikgoat ,
[02:51] <willwh> high guys - any irssi users?
[02:51] <anirudh0> yes
[02:51] <Starnestommy> willwh: I am one.  WHy do you ask?
[02:51] <SeaPhor> josef, plz let me know, if not here, on #SeaPhor
[02:51] <willwh> I am wondering about config for nickserv.pl
[02:51] <josef> seaphor ok
[02:51] <lesjohn> i'm trying to convert .wav to .ogg with soundconverter.  when i use "soundconverter -b" from the command line, it converts at 112 kbps, but when i use the interface, i get 192 kbps.  does anyone know how to set the rate from the command line?
[02:51] <willwh> I haven't got it to work - assuming it's just my syntax
[02:51] <bazhang_> deeperror, I am happy to do the searching :)
[02:51] <Leefmc> Question: Ok, so i've used Ubuntu for a week now (all offline heh), and i love it. Aside from a few problems (all surrounding my mx revolution) its a great system. One question though, i was told not to install software by itself, in favor of the package manager if it exists in there; However, the package manager seems to update slow as tar! Why is this? And what if you _need_ new software? (eg: Blender 246 or FireFox3)
[02:51] <deeperror> haha yea i do too
[02:52] <willwh> Leefmc: it shouldn't be slow?
[02:52] <fp2007> hey guys, having a problem with ubuntu/grub, earlier I lost my /boot/grub directory, it has been replaced, as well as now when I boot up, it shows me the grub menu, but when I select the kernel I want (any of them), it gives me an error that it cannot find them/block error or something, any ideas?
[02:52] <musikgoat> Leefmc: mx revolution problems could be fixed with btnx
[02:52] <Bodsda> bazhang_, doin the search is okay but i wish peopledid *some* research themselves before asking
[02:52] <anirudh0> Leefmc: you could use a nearer repo..and if you _need_ new stuff,  then by all means get it
[02:52] <Leefmc> musikgoat, Nope, but thats another story :)
[02:52] <bazhang_> Bodsda, then we would have nothing to do :)
[02:53] <spiderskull> fp2007: far-fetched possibility, but do you have an older (>=2yrs) motherboard with a hard drive bigger than 130GB?
[02:53] <SeaPhor> Bodsda, what's the fun in that, lol
[02:53] <Leefmc> willwh, Well.. no? I mean, is there a reason for it being so slow?
[02:53] <Bodsda> bazhang_, heh,.,.  im in a lazy mood ;~)
[02:53] <cowbud> where's my BOOZE
[02:53] <Cary_Jebus> how do you install boot screams
[02:53] <bazhang_> cowbud, offtopic
[02:53] <cowbud> bazhang_, no shit
[02:53] <anirudh0> Cary_Jebus: you mean gnome login or usplash boot
[02:53] <willwh> Leefmc: it shoulnd't be slow - what is slow? the download?
[02:54] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Well i was specifically told it was best to use the manager.. and not knowing the reason for this, i figured i would find out why it was advised to _not_ install my own software
[02:54] <bazhang_> cowbud, watch the cursing
[02:54] <fp2007> spiderskull: no I dont, the motherboard is older than 2years, but I only have a 60gb and a 30gb on my system, the ubuntu is on the 60gigger by itself
[02:54] <Bodsda> !ohmy | cowbud
[02:54] <Cary_Jebus> gnome
[02:54] <willwh> and Leefmc which repos are you using?
[02:54] <Leefmc> willwh, The update. FireFox RC1 hasbeen out for a couple weeks, Blender246 has been out for.. god knows how long
[02:54] <anirudh0> Leefmc: your own software does'nt update
[02:54] <Leefmc> willwh, Not sure, the default
[02:54] <Cary_Jebus> gnome
[02:54] <willwh> Leefmc: that is down to the ubuntu release cycle
[02:54] <anirudh0> Cary_Jebus: there is a program called gtktwekui
[02:54] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Ah, and thats it?
[02:54] <spiderskull> fp2007: ah, nevermind -- I had an issue with GRUB earlier because my laptop motherboard only supported up to 137 GB, and /boot/grub was in the block beyond that
[02:54] <Cary_Jebus> ok let me search it
[02:54] <willwh> Leefmc: if you want more up to date packages, I'd suggest another distro ;)
[02:54] <SeaPhor> bazhang_, yeah, and you wouldn't get paid! oh, wait a minute,,, nvm.. let em search lol
[02:55] <willwh> if you don't want to wait for stable releases to be merged in
[02:55] <bazhang_> SeaPhor, :)
[02:55] <Cary_Jebus> no matches :\
[02:55] <cowbud> bazhang_, off topic
[02:55] <anirudh0> Leefmc: may have security holes..but thats true for any ubuntu package as well
[02:55] <Leefmc> willwh, Wait.. so you're telling me ubuntu's package manager will always say FireFox Beta5? yeesh heh
[02:55] <spiderskull> willwh: aren't there different package repositories with more cutting edge software?
[02:55] <willwh> no, I didn't say that
[02:55] <willwh> you can use the Ibis repos
[02:55] <Cary_Jebus> nore on gogle
[02:55] <Bodsda> cowbud, this is a support channel if you dont need support or your not going to helpothers please be quiet or leave
[02:55]  * Joeb454 needs sleep
[02:55] <willwh> that is the development kernel
[02:55] <musikgoat> Leefmc: you can allow for proposed updates
[02:55] <bazhang_> cowbud, this is support; do you have a support question-->if not then #ubuntu-offtopic might be nice
[02:55] <Morgie> cowbud do you want the lo also?
[02:55] <willwh> indeed
[02:55] <anirudh0> is;nt rc1 out in repos?
[02:55] <fp2007> spiderskull: do you think perhaps in my case reinstalling the kernels is the next step? the reason I ask is, from here (LiveCD), I have to mount the harddrive to a folder and go through that stuff to be able to install using apt-get or dpkg on the actual harddrive install
[02:55] <Leefmc> musikgoat, Pardon?
[02:56] <cowbud> Morgie, nah jkust the eth* ones
[02:56] <musikgoat> go to system -> admin -> software sources
[02:56] <cowbud> Bodsda, noticeI am helping someone
[02:56] <anirudh0> Leefmc: add hardy-proposed
[02:56] <cowbud> Morgie, and I am a bit confused as to how you are pasting this if the system isn't connected
[02:56] <anirudh0> Leefmc: not recommended though
[02:56] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Why is it not recommended?
[02:56] <anirudh0> Leefmc: its worse than debian-unstable
[02:56] <musikgoat> Leefmc: the proposed are in testing stage
[02:57] <Bodsda> cowbud, then please stop the unnecessary posts
[02:57] <Starnestommy> willwh: about nickserv.pl, I think it might be broken due to a recent change in NickServ and the other services on freenode.  Someone in #irssi might have a fix for it
[02:57] <Leefmc> ah hah
[02:57] <willwh> Starnestommy: lovely - I'll check with them, thanks
[02:57] <Morgie> cowbud i am re typing the printout
[02:57] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Well really, my only problem right now is with Blender246 and FireFox support heh
[02:57] <anirudh0> Leefmc: because the packages are not stable..have;nt been tested enough
[02:57] <cowbud> Morgie, damn that is a lot of work, do you have an eth0? and if so does it have an ip?
[02:57] <Morgie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17777/
[02:57] <anirudh0> Leefmc: blender should be fine..they have their own repo iirc..add that
[02:57] <cowbud> Bodsda, unnecessary it is a chat channel who is the overlord that deems things unneccsary
[02:58] <cowbud> Morgie, looking now
[02:58] <Morgie> i couldnt get DNS or roaming to work at all
[02:58] <anirudh0> Leefmc: and wait for ff..nothing much new from b5 anyway
[02:58] <Leefmc> anirudh0, What about firefox? Do they have their own?
[02:58] <Leefmc> anirudh0, IIRC i loved RC1 over B5
[02:58] <musikgoat> anirudh0: i'd beg to differ on that... rc1 has a number of bug fixes
[02:58] <Leefmc> anirudh0, i loved it
[02:58] <cowbud> Morgie, is that eth0?
[02:58] <Cary_Jebus> is there any way to swich ubuntu to kbuntu without uninstalling it
[02:58] <Morgie> yeah
[02:58] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Not to mention, it was annoying to have to "downgrade" heh
[02:58] <anirudh0> Leefmc: nope..but some people have compiled and put the rc in their personal repos..i would strongly advise waiting
[02:58] <luckynoob> leefmc, firefox rc2 is stable and cool
[02:58] <cowbud> Cary_Jebus, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <willwh> Cary_Jebus: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Starnestommy> Cary_Jebus: sudo apt-get install kubunth-desktop
[02:59] <anirudh0> musikgoat: nothing life changing :)
[02:59] <Starnestommy> er, whoops
[02:59] <Starnestommy> ignore me
[02:59] <Bodsda> cowbud, if you would like to continue this discussion then let me no and we'll move to #ubuntu-ops -- nad perhaps you should consider reading the !coc
[02:59] <Leefmc> dear god, didn't even know about FF RC2 hah.
[02:59] <Cary_Jebus> sorry for being so newbish
[02:59] <cowbud> Morgie, ok and when you connect your computer it just doesn't get an IP address at all or you just can't use the internet?
[02:59] <Cary_Jebus> i just started linux
[02:59] <fdhdh> is there an apt command to get a list of all dependencies (recursively expanded)?
[02:59] <cowbud> Bodsda, did you mean know or no?
[02:59] <spiderskull> fp2007: it depends on what error you're getting, check this page: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[02:59] <cowbud> and did you really just say coc?
[02:59] <anirudh0> !troll
[02:59] <Morgie> i didnt get an ip when i looked at my connection info
[02:59] <Bodsda> cowbud, know
[03:00] <anirudh0> too bad..this one is needed occasionally
[03:00] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Well let me ask this then. How long does it often take for software to move to the mainline repos? I mean.. will it be 3 months into FireFox3's final release, that ubuntu gets FireFox3?
[03:00] <Cary_Jebus> cary@cary-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubunth-desktop
[03:00] <Cary_Jebus> [sudo] password for cary:
[03:00] <Cary_Jebus> Reading package lists... Done
[03:00] <Cary_Jebus> Building dependency tree
[03:00] <Cary_Jebus> Reading state information... Done
[03:00] <FloodBot1> Cary_Jebus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <Cary_Jebus> E: Couldn't find package kubunth-desktop
[03:00] <deeperror> willwh, if you install kubuntu on top do you have the option to load either?  and will settings/prefs be similar or do you get clean desktop?
[03:00] <cowbud> Morgie, and again this is directly to your computer no router right?
[03:00] <Flannel> Cary_Jebus: kubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <Morgie> yes
[03:00] <Starnestommy> Cary_Jebus: I meant sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <anirudh0> Leefmc: devs are busy right now..feature freeze for 8.10 is nearby..hence the delay
[03:00] <Starnestommy> which is why I said "ignore me"
[03:00] <Darlok_Williams> Does anyone know how to make GNOME Do actually open my Firefox bookmarks?  It will show them when I start to type the name, but it won't actually open them in Firefox.
[03:00] <willwh> deeperror: you can load either at your login screen (you can choose the session)
[03:01] <cowbud> Morgie, do you have any other computers to test, my guess is if you connect it and let it sit there for like 15 minutes you will then get an IP. I am guessing that the cable modem is being a badboy and only allowing certain mac addresses but hten it fails over after X amount of minutes
[03:01] <willwh> I personally don't like KDE, but whatever floats your boat :)
[03:01] <Cary_Jebus> ty :)
[03:01] <Leefmc> anirudh0, I mean i'm not complaining, i just need to find my medium here. When i should just let the mainline repos be my guide, or when i should force my own. (Blender for example)
[03:01] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Ah nice
[03:01] <willwh> Leefmc: blender is a wonderful program ;)
[03:01] <fp2007> spiderskull: thanks, I am going to read over all this now, hopefully I will find out what is wrong, I shouldve wrote down the error, it happens at boot and I have to reboot using a livecd
[03:01] <anirudh0> willwh: kde4 should change your opinion
[03:01] <Cary_Jebus> wow the linux community is so friendly <3
[03:01] <Morgie> i dont think that is it, i am running the compy on the same connection as this computer
[03:01] <willwh> I have been teaching myself slowly the last few weeks :)
[03:01] <deeperror> Cary_Jebus, give it time haha
[03:02] <Cary_Jebus> :P
[03:02] <Flannel> anirudh0: Feature freeze isn't until August, firefox should be all sorted out by 8.04.1, although I believe it was supposed to already be at that.
[03:02] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Also, i heard you should often install ubuntu fresh because it doesn't update that great. Do minor versions update fine? (8.04 to 8.10 for example?)
[03:02] <anirudh0> Leefmc: if you dont need something urgently..wait for main repo..if you do, well put the new one
[03:02] <musikgoat> Leefmc: if there are certain programs you want to install, and you want to test things out... google it and there will be a 1000 blogs with instructions to install
[03:02] <spiderskull> fp2007: yeah, I found what helps is trying to get as specific as possible. the nice thing about that page is that they have a section dedicated to error mesages and what they mean
[03:02] <ijustam> does anyone use a UPS?
[03:02] <anirudh0> Flannel: i meant the devs are busy..hence the delay in uploading packages to hardy
[03:02] <Cary_Jebus> I do
[03:02] <deeperror> ijustam, yes
[03:02] <ijustam> does your power history work?
[03:02] <Cary_Jebus> but I dont know how to manage it on linux
[03:02] <anirudh0> ijustam: why?
[03:02] <Cary_Jebus> :\
[03:02] <willwh> Leefmc: minor versions update fine - but I would suggest installing your /home on a seperate partition
[03:03] <willwh> and I do a complete reinstall on new full releases
[03:03] <ijustam> my power died today and i just noticed my power history is completely inactive
[03:03] <deeperror> ijustam, i use nut not sure ha it just sends me emails on events
[03:03] <con-man> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[03:03] <con-man> any ideas?
[03:03] <HappyHater> how can I share files with xp running in vmware-server?
[03:03] <musikgoat> Leefmc: there is a place to get prepackaged deb's that ar not in the main yet... getdeb.net
[03:03] <Leefmc> willwh, Oh and btw, Blender is nice, but not nearly as good as some of the paid alternatives. 3D apps differ greatly from OSs heh. (i own most major 3d apps, its my field heh. Got fed up when Softimage wanted to charge me 300$ to switch my license to ubuntu)
[03:03] <Tux> Is there anyway to make firestarter notify you when there is a block event even if you havent clicked firestarter first
[03:03] <ijustam> i found out that ubuntu's power manager will manage it now that i have my data cable
[03:03] <willwh> Leefmc: agreed, Maya is a standard pretty much
[03:03] <ijustam> just.. power history won't move
[03:03] <willwh> I don't work int he industry but I know a lot of them
[03:04] <anirudh0> con-man: lsof /dev/snd/*..and see whats occupying audio
[03:04] <cowbud> musikgoat, might want to also include that it can be bad for the system
[03:04] <musikgoat> ture
[03:04] <hey`> I'm desperate.
[03:04] <musikgoat> *true
[03:04] <hey`> something's still wrong wity my firefox.
[03:04] <hey`> problems with flash.
[03:04] <con-man> anirudh0: nothing
[03:04] <cowbud> hey`, ask and someone will try to help just be exact..
[03:04] <Morgie> cowbud, the connection for that computer is being used by this one so i can get some help ><
[03:04] <anirudh0> Leefmc: does  maya run under wine?
[03:05] <hey`> I've been trying to ask you guys the whole week, and someone already helped me really hard, and couldn't help me.
[03:05] <Cary_Jebus> maya? I beleve there is a linux alertivative to that
[03:05] <anirudh0> con-man: which means nothing is using audio...is pulseaudio running?
[03:05] <Leefmc> willwh, Actually, i dislike maya. Its powerful, but it isn't friendly. Its designed for big companies with budgets to program their own features. If you wanna see a nice up and coming program, check out Luxologies Modo. Currently not linux, but they have a system to bake out apps for every release, so eventually they will support linux as a standard
[03:05] <Cary_Jebus> I forgot the name...
[03:05] <cowbud> Morgie, right but what I am saying is that some companies who distribute cable modems/dsl modems will only allow one mac address, however if you wait a while it may fail over and let you. I assume you don't have any other computer you can test?
[03:05] <con-man> nope
[03:05] <willwh> anirudh0: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8992
[03:05] <Cary_Jebus> anyone know
[03:05] <hey`> the problem is I can't listen to any stream radio online.
[03:05] <con-man> anirudh0: nope
[03:05] <hey`> also, flas doesn't load properly, instead appears a play sign.
[03:06] <Leefmc> anirudh0, Actually, to avoid the hassle of licensing crap (i swear, spend 5000$ and you still dont own crap), the only app i plan on "Wine-ing" is Modo
[03:06] <Cary_Jebus> reinstall flash
[03:06] <hey`> and due to that I can't upload pics on photobucket for sure.
[03:06] <bazhang_> Morgie, is this wireless or wired
[03:06] <cowbud> hey`, and what happens when you click on that play sign does it try to load flash?
[03:06] <kitche> hey`: sounds like your not using adobe flash probably using one of the open source ones
[03:06] <anirudh0> con-man: start it from terminal..and see if an error comes up when you try to play something
[03:06] <cowbud> bazhang_, cable modem connection
[03:06] <Leefmc> willwh, Is it possible to "transfer" my /home/ to a new partition, on a current install?
[03:06] <Morgie> not right now no and it is hard wired
[03:06] <hey`> cowbud, if I play the thing, in case of youtube vids.
[03:06] <willwh> Leefmc: yes, there are many blogs entries about it, one sec I'll dig you a link
[03:06] <hey`> they play alright.
[03:06] <bazhang_> Morgie, you can access the machine now?
[03:06] <hey`> if it's a flash effect it works.
[03:06] <cowbud> Morgie, right so if eth0 is showing up chances are you are fine as far as the linux side
[03:06] <rushin> irc://freenode/#ubuntu
[03:06] <naenae> hey im bakc again ard
[03:06] <anirudh0> Leefmc: cp -rv ~/ <new-partition>
[03:06] <con-man> anirudh0: ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL front:0
[03:06] <con-man> ALSA lib setup.c:96:(snd_sctl_install) Cannot lock ctl elem
[03:06] <con-man> ALSA lib setup.c:96:(snd_sctl_install) Cannot lock ctl elem
[03:07] <hey`> and well I have installed the non-free flash.
[03:07] <FloodBot1> con-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <con-man> 3 lines?
[03:07] <anirudh0> Leefmc: actually do cp -arv
[03:07] <cowbud> and yet floodbot continues the flood
[03:07] <cowbud> lovely
[03:07] <Leefmc> anirudh0, And you can make new partitions on the fly easily right? (In the partition manager, iirc)
[03:07] <eraldo> is there a way to add a creation date to a file (apart from writing it into the filename) ...but still beeing part of the file ?
[03:07] <hey`> but when I wanna hear radio online is not possible.
[03:07] <con-man> it was 3 lines
[03:07] <willwh> con-man: use pastebin!!
[03:07] <willwh> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[03:07] <Quintin> Failed to start the firewall.  The device ath0 is not ready.  Please check your network device settings and make sure your Internet Connection is active.
[03:07] <con-man> willwh: I do, but that was only 3 lines
[03:07] <hey`> and the photobucket problem is annoying too, i guess it's the same thing.
[03:07] <Quintin> I'm trying to use firestarter to share eth0 using a wifi card
[03:07] <Morgie> ok, so then why i cant i ever see my ipaddy
[03:07] <SeaPhor> cowbud, does Morgie 's cable modem have a built in router?
[03:07] <Leefmc> willwh, Ty
[03:07] <Morgie> no
[03:07] <anirudh0> con-man: i think a reboot might help..not sure though
[03:07] <bazhang_> Morgie, you need help or not? then answer my questions
[03:07] <Bodsda> cowbud, floodbot only tells the offender of the flood it doesnt 'continue the flood' thats like saying the next person who posts is flooding
[03:07] <hey`> I've installed several packages, also configuring firefox, but nuttin
[03:08] <con-man> anirudh0: aye, brb
[03:08] <Leefmc> I'll be right back, i got a question about FF-B5, and Amazon MP3. I can't preview the music. But brb, i need to reboot (system updates)
[03:08] <cowbud> Bodsda, yeah well maybe floodbot should msg them instead of do it publically so we all don't have to see yet another useless line of text in this channel
[03:08] <Morgie> it is just a ethernet modem
[03:08] <adub> i am trying to play a wm file but its slow as hell
[03:08] <Bodsda> cowbud, some people dont allow pm's
[03:08] <bazhang_> Morgie, also preface your answers with the nickname of the person you are speaking to or your posts will be lost
[03:08] <willwh> adub: what player are you using and what codecs do you have installed?
[03:08] <naenae> what does it mean when i install brand new drivers for my pcmcia card and i look at my restricted hardware drives and it sais the device is working yet the pcmcia is not detected by my wifi scanner ...it wont detect any networks with it and the light on the thing isnt even on
[03:09] <cowbud> Bodsda, seems like a bum compromise
[03:09] <adub> willwh i tried mplayer and totem
[03:09] <willwh> adub: I work for a streamign media company and have totally tested WMA/WMV streams/files to death
[03:09] <adub> the codecs im not sure
[03:09] <anirudh0> adub: perhaps your system is too slow to play it..start mplayer from cmd line..it should show something
[03:09] <Bodsda> cowbud, what does?
[03:09] <Morgie> bazhang_, sorry i have just an eithernet modem
[03:09] <willwh> adub: make sure you have the gstreamer wm codecs instaleld
[03:09] <cowbud> Bodsda, subjecting everyone to that because some people don't accept msgs they should just get kicked then
[03:09] <adub> oh this isnt streaming media i have it local on my hard drive
[03:09] <Cary_Jebus> whats in kde 4 thats not in kde 3
[03:09] <bazhang_> Morgie, can you access the computer now
[03:09] <adub> ok
[03:09] <adub> 1 sec
[03:09] <Morgie> bazhang_yes
[03:09] <anirudh0> cowbud: PM's only work for registered users on freenode iirc
[03:10] <naenae> what does it mean when i install brand new drivers for my pcmcia card and i look at my restricted hardware drives and it sais the device is working yet the pcmcia is not detected by my wifi scanner ...it wont detect any networks with it and the light on the thing isnt even on
[03:10] <bazhang_> Morgie, and the ethernet is attached now?
[03:10] <willwh> anirudh0: that's correct, you must be identified with Nickserv :)
[03:10] <xenos> started kde4 but theres no panel anywhere! any ideas?
[03:10] <Cary_Jebus> whats in kde 4 thats not in kde 3???
[03:10] <anirudh0> adub: can be a codecs issue..would'nt play at all then
[03:10]  * xenos cough* a panel
[03:10] <JohnPhys> How can I go about mounting an ntfs drive using the kernel driver, rather than fuse and ntfs-3g?
[03:10] <Bodsda> cowbud, that would be harsh on users who have never been on irc before, they dont know not to post 4 lines in quick succession
[03:10] <anirudh0> Cary_Jebus: EVRYTHING :)
[03:11] <Cary_Jebus> aww damnit
[03:11] <adub> gstreamer0.10-plugin-good
[03:11] <fp2007> nickrud
[03:11] <adub> is that what i want
[03:11] <fp2007> oops
[03:11] <Cary_Jebus> I just installed KDE 3
[03:11] <Cary_Jebus> :(
[03:11] <anirudh0> Cary_Jebus: plasma mainly..and qt4..so apps become abot 30% faster
[03:11] <Cary_Jebus> :(((((]
[03:11] <cowbud> Cary_Jebus, yeah that is default
[03:11] <Morgie> bazhang_ no i am using the connection for the one i am using to get some help, and my ifconfig is good
[03:11] <anirudh0> Cary_Jebus: KDE 4.1 beta packages are out
[03:11] <JuzzyD> Hello Folks, anyone know stuff about iPods with Ubuntu? I seem to have an issue where as soon as I connect the ipod, podcasts that I've listened to are being marked as unplayed
[03:11] <Cary_Jebus> LINK?
[03:11] <naenae> what does it mean when i install brand new drivers for my pcmcia card and i look at my restricted hardware drives and it sais the device is working yet the pcmcia is not detected by my wifi scanner ...it wont detect any networks with it and the light on the thing isnt even on
[03:12] <eraldo> is there a way to add a creation date to a file (apart from writing it into the filename) ...but still beeing part of the file ?
[03:12] <cowbud> naenae, first and foremost the best thing to do is google to find out whether or not linux supports that hardware
[03:12] <anirudh0> JohnPhys: you could add the relevant line in /etc/fstab
[03:12] <HiTo> Wow... when using VNC to control my Ubuntu computer, Xorg uses 90% of the CPU, nothing more... ressource efficient ? (i have an e4500 with 2 GB)
[03:12] <naenae> ive done that
[03:12] <naenae> it doe
[03:12] <naenae> s
[03:12] <anirudh0> Cary_Jebus: see kubuntu.org
[03:12] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  can you be more specific?
[03:12] <cowbud> HiTo, vnc is resource intensive it takes lots and lots of snapshots in jpeg
[03:12] <Cary_Jebus> ani, I dont want to have to uninstall ubuntu
[03:12] <portablejim> How do I use pulseaudio one installed? I am using Hardy and have GUI tools.
[03:12] <bazhang_> Morgie, to troubleshoot this you need to connect the cable to the computer in question, then ifconfig should show eth0, then sudo dhclient eth0 should bring up the connection<--write down these instructions and then try them with ethernet connected (noting down any errors if does not work)
[03:13] <Bodsda> how is modification date controlled? is it possible to duplicate it and make it changeable only once so it works as a creation date?
[03:13] <anirudh0> JohnPhys: see the fstab file for format..replace ntfs-3g in there by the driver of your choice
[03:13] <willwh> HiTo: that is strange - I spend much of my day controlling my box over an ssh tunnel via vnc.... and my CPUs are not even 40% most of the time
[03:13] <anirudh0> HiTo: use ssh -X
[03:13] <cowbud> bazhang_, assuming the aforementioned issue is not what is affecting him
[03:13] <cowbud> anirudh0, that is hardly a replacement for vnc
[03:13] <Morgie> bazhang_ ok i amdoing this now
[03:13] <willwh> portablejim: System > Prefs > Sound
[03:13] <HiTo> yes but ssh -X doesn't work so well (i found) when using it from Windows
[03:13] <HiTo> I installed Xming but i have errors when launching gnome
[03:14] <anirudh0> Cary_Jebus: not necessary..kde4 goes in /usr/lib/kde4..no messing up with ubuntu progs
[03:14] <HiTo> otherwise ssh -X seems to use less ressources yes
[03:14] <bazhang_> Morgie, but the cable must be connected for that to work (you understand this right?)
[03:14] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  how can I accomplish the mount from the command line?  mount -t ntfs device mountpoint does not seem to work, the type of filesystem is listed as "fuseblk".  I am curious about how to do this for rescuing ntfs partitions using a livecd.
[03:14] <willwh> HiTo: I use the default remote desktop feature in ubuntu (vino) - and an SSH tunnel for security
[03:14] <willwh> and it works gresat
[03:14] <cowbud> willwh, == to vnc
[03:14] <willwh> cowbud: yes, true :)
[03:14] <anirudh0> JohnPhys: hmm..ntfs-3g uses fuse
[03:14] <anirudh0> JohnPhys: fuse=filesystem in user space
[03:14] <cowbud> mount -t ntfs-3g
[03:14] <HiTo> willwh it works fine yes, but I found it really hungry and I am not doing only that on the computer,
[03:15] <HiTo> there is heavy file i/o
[03:15] <willwh> HiTo: what vncviewer are you using?
[03:15] <cowbud> HiTo, there are alternatives but not built into the desktop well. FreeNX being one of them..
[03:15] <willwh> HiTo: what colour depth etc are you tranferring?
[03:15] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  exactly.  I want to use the kernel ntfs driver.  I know I have to modprobe ntfs to get that module loaded (it's not be default), but I'm not sure what to do after that.
[03:15] <Milchmann> hi everyone! im trying to update grub to add the .18 kernel, but its not working: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/245603/
[03:16] <portablejim> I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio. I have set all dound devices to pulseaudio.
[03:16] <Milchmann> -18
[03:16] <Phoenn> could someone help me with my xorg file, I'm trying to get 3 monitors working but I can only get the 1, my xorg file is here: www.pastebin.ca/1040933 thanks in advanced
[03:16] <cowbud> Phoenn, nvidia video card?
[03:17] <cowbud> and if I recall 3 monitors is not possible..
[03:17] <cowbud> which may be wrong
[03:17] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone who is running FireFox B5, could you please browse Amazon MP3 and try to preview music? I am unable to, and i am not sure if the blame is at Ubuntu or FF-B5
[03:17] <HiTo> willwh  full available colours :)
[03:17] <Phoenn> cowbud: the main card is an nvidia agp card, the other two are ati pci
[03:17] <Bodsda> portablejim, #compiz-fusion might know
[03:17] <willwh> HiTo: that would explain much of the problem ;)
[03:17] <willwh> HiTo: try reducing that and see your results
[03:18] <xenos> started kde4 but theres no panel anywhere! any ideas?
[03:18] <anirudh0_> xenos: add it using right click>add panel
[03:18] <cowbud> phoen oh damn 3 differnet video cards yeah that is a pretty complex setup and is probably beyond the scope of this channel man..
[03:18] <HiTo> changed it to 256 colours,
[03:18] <portablejim> Bodsda: why would #compiz-fusion know?
[03:18] <randomshadowbmg> how come some of my sound ports are disabled in ubuntu?
[03:18] <anirudh0_> xenos: there;s a kubuntu-kde channel as well
[03:18] <Leefmc> Anyone? :)
[03:18] <Phoenn> cowbud: any chance of getting two of them working? I'll take what I can get
[03:19] <Leefmc> (not sure if anyone is trying heh)
[03:19] <randomshadowbmg> i have a sound card on my  motherboard with 6 ports and it has headphones and speakers hooked up, i can only use the headphones....
[03:19] <cowbud> phoenn your best bet is to google about xinerama stuff and see what you can find..
[03:19] <Bodsda> portablejim, because they deal with graphics and dual screens ,.,. it was just a suggestion
[03:19] <Phoenn> cowbud: alright, thanks
[03:19] <Cary_Jebus> cowbud: be nice were suppost to be freandly...
[03:19] <anirudh0_> randomshadowbmg: check for muted stuff in alsamixer
[03:19] <cowbud> Cary_Jebus, what are you referring to?
[03:19] <Morgie> bazhang_ i got these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17781/
[03:19] <Leefmc> willwh, Mind trying for me?
[03:19] <Cary_Jebus> phoen oh damn 3 differnet video cards yeah that is a pretty complex setup and is probably beyond the scope of this channel man..
[03:20] <cowbud> bazhang_, which points to my original assessment
[03:20] <cowbud> Cary_Jebus, yeah that isn't being rude
[03:20] <cowbud> Cary_Jebus, it is more the truth
[03:20] <Cary_Jebus> oh I though that was sarcasm
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cowbud We dont tell people to rtfm or go google it
[03:20] <Cary_Jebus> :P
[03:20] <Bodsda> cowbud, someone asks a question you say go away and search yourself -- not the helping mentality were trying to show
[03:20] <anirudh0_> Jack_Sparrow: sometimes we should :)
[03:20] <cowbud> wow
[03:20] <cowbud> ok
[03:20] <cowbud> do you know how to seutp xinerama with 3 cards?
[03:21] <cowbud> have you even heard of that
[03:21] <cowbud> probably not
[03:21] <FloodBot1> cowbud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <anirudh0_> !enter
[03:21] <cowbud> Ive done two before
[03:21] <Bodsda> cowbud, no but give me 10 mins i can prob find out
[03:21] <randomshadowbmg> problem solved
[03:21] <cowbud> but this is obviously a newb chanel
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0_ There are times when it is necessary.  But only as a last resort
[03:21] <randomshadowbmg> :D
[03:21] <Phoenn> lol, what cowbud said was fine, he didn't offend me
[03:21] <Bodsda> cowbud, this is a channel welcometo n00bs intermidiates and pros alike
[03:21] <portablejim> How do I move a pulseaudio stream to another computer, without killing the network? both computers are set up according to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#head-83190ece29f1679536253fdcf836c51989fc209d
[03:21] <cowbud> Bodsda, dude apparently not
[03:21] <cowbud> you guys are so excited about your big mighty kick
[03:21] <cowbud> ridiculous
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> cowbud Last time I did one it was 4 monitors on two cards, but I had to lose compiz to do it
[03:22] <willwh> cowbud: high horse much? :O
[03:22] <cowbud> Jack_Sparrow, well I sure as hell didnt see you chime in
[03:22] <anirudh0_> cowbud: i cant figure out whether you are a dev or a troll
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | cowbud
[03:22] <Bodsda> cowbud, what big mighty kick???
[03:22] <cowbud> Bodsda,  uh /kick
[03:22] <Mr_Bad_News> how do i get virtual box to mount an iso?
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda the one he knows is coming for attitude etc
[03:22] <cowbud> Mr_Bad_News, you set it as the cdrom drive
[03:23] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow, he got kicked?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda no.. but he knows better.. and is expecting one
[03:23] <ProwL> :P
[03:23] <cowbud> Mr_Bad_News, when you first create the virtual machine you will be presented with devices on the right hand side there you can select cdrom then select iso
[03:23] <cowbud> Jack_Sparrow, oh god
[03:23] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  any ideas?
[03:24] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow, someone who is expecting one should prob tone it down to avoid it ;~)
[03:24] <cowbud> do I know better
[03:24] <cowbud> I could give a fuck
[03:24] <cowbud> kick me
[03:24] <FloodBot1> cowbud: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:24] <Jalathan> Jack_Sparrow: i hate to ask, but was the person that was having troubles with getting Regnum going.  did he get it going after i left? *feels bad about it*
[03:24] <cowbud> sorry for helping people
[03:24] <anirudh0_> JohnPhys: i was out for a while..fstab did'nt work?
[03:24] <SeaPhor> cowbud, bye
[03:24] <Bodsda> lol,.,.goodbye
[03:24] <ProwL> cheers Jack_Sparrow :)
[03:25] <crf> Hi, in which files are the settings for the gnome logout button?
[03:25] <Mr_Bad_News> so if i have 3 iso's for french russian and spanish i have to power down and select mount that iso each time?
[03:25] <cowbud> oh wow
[03:25] <anirudh0_> Mr_Bad_News: wow
[03:25] <cowbud> now im out of here
[03:25] <cowbud> lamers
[03:25] <eraldo> is there a way to add a creation date to a file (apart from writing it into the filename) ...but still beeing part of the file ?
[03:25] <Leefmc> anirudh0_, Mind doing me a favor? (If you have Ubuntu & FF-B5) please check a random album i chose, and see if the previews play for you? (Requires Flash)  http://www.amazon.com/Weezer-Red-Album-Deluxe/dp/B001A62PP6/
[03:25] <Mr_Bad_News> what anirudh0
[03:26] <anirudh0_> Mr_Bad_News: three iso's i mean..so many languages
[03:26] <Mr_Bad_News> so little time
[03:26] <crf> eraldo, I think there are some filesystems that allow that.
[03:26] <Phoenn> Anyone wanna take a stab at why my xorg isn't working? I'd even settle for only getting 2 monitors working www.pastebin.ca/1040933 thanks in advanced
[03:26] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  I want to do it manually from the terminal, as I'm looking for a way to accomplish this on a livecd for rescuing ntfs partitions.  I was not able to mount an ntfs partition using a hardy disk, but a friend of mine was able to mount the partition using a debian cd using the ntfs kernel driver, rather than anything that used fuse.  I am wondering how to accomplish that (mount ntfs using the kernel driver, not fuse).
[03:26] <willwh> Leefmc: I am - and the preview plays
[03:26] <Leefmc> willwh, Ah suck. So wtf.. why wont it play for me.. hurm. Thanks
[03:27] <Leefmc> anirudh0, willwh tried, you dont have to :)
[03:27] <willwh> Leefmc: what do you have set in Sys > Prefs> sound?
[03:27] <anirudh0_> Leefmc: i get "open with totem"
[03:27] <willwh> Leefmc: I have everything set to ALSA
[03:27] <willwh> I don't trust pulseaudio yet!
[03:27] <anirudh0_> JohnPhys: ntfs is not rw..ntfs-3g is..the command you typed way back was correct(mount from terminal)
[03:27] <eraldo> crf: but ext3 is not part of that I guess ?
[03:27] <Cary_Jebus> now I restart my computer to boot into KDE 4 right?
[03:27] <Leefmc> willwh, Ah i didn't realize firefox required sound settings. I assumed it all went through the same pipe (my mp3 player, vs firefox, vs some random prog)
[03:28] <anirudh0_> Cary_Jebus: if that is selected in gdm
[03:28] <crf> eraldo, that's right
[03:28] <Syphys> newserver irc.discut.fr
[03:28] <Cary_Jebus> no I selected kdm
[03:28] <eraldo> crf: any other ideas ?
[03:28] <Bodsda> Cary_Jebus, you select which desktop environment you want to use at the login screen
[03:28] <Flannel> Cary_Jebus: No, you'll need to select it from the "sessions" menu.  GDM/KDM don't have a preference on what they boot to
[03:28] <anirudh0_> Cary_Jebus: you have to select the kde4 session in kdm
[03:29] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  at least on gutsy, both mount.ntfs AND mount.ntfs-3g point to /bin/ntfs-3g
[03:29] <Cary_Jebus> well I need to update anyway
[03:29] <Cary_Jebus> :P
[03:29] <Cary_Jebus> brb
[03:29] <JohnPhys> anirudh0: and to my knowledge, that uses fuse
[03:29] <crf> eraldo, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[03:29]  * Leefmc waits for firefox to unfreeze
[03:29] <Leefmc> See this is why Beta5 stinks. hehe :o
[03:29] <anirudh0_> JohnPhys: ntfs-3g uses fuse..there is an older ntfs driver that provides read only access
[03:30] <Leefmc> willwh, Hah! That was it! Thank you
[03:30] <Leefmc> willwh, I assumed i didn't have any sound problems because my mp3 player worked fine.
[03:30] <anirudh0_> JohnPhys: see http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ for more details
[03:30] <crf> eraldo, I'm not an expert. :) ... I don't fell comfortable giving advice that would result in changing your whole filesystem ;)
[03:30] <willwh> Leefmc: no problem :)
[03:30] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  that would be fine, as I'm interested in rescuing data off of a busted ntfs partition that ntfs-3g has trouble mounting.  How can I use the older driver from a hardy livecd?
[03:31] <alan_m> Hey guys, my computer every time i log in now says "cannot load .dmrc it should have permissions 7555 and should be owned by user and not accessible by any other user, can anybody tell me how to fix it? ive looked everywhere, the forums havent helped out, i tried everything.
[03:31] <Leefmc> willwh, I was about to have a heart attack. I need my music fix haha. Every man has his addiction, and i have to budget mine heh
[03:31] <anirudh0_> JohnPhys: afaik the older driver is'nt there in hardy livecd..you'll need edgy or dapper livecd for that
[03:31] <willwh> Leefmc: amen to that ;)
[03:31] <anirudh0_> alan_m: you mean 600
[03:32] <Leefmc> Yea overall, i am very happy to have made the move to ubuntu.
[03:32] <anirudh0_> alan_m: do chmod 600 ~/.dmrc ..and chmod 700 ~/
[03:32] <Leefmc> Honestly, i feel like i've thrown my 3D App burdon more than my windows burdon. 3D App licensing is so f'n horrible.
[03:32] <Leefmc> Except for a few, ofcourse
[03:32] <anirudh0_> JohnPhys: it is unlikely that the older driver will work where the newer one failed
[03:32] <willwh> Leefmc: it is rather liberating picking up a *nix distro if you are used to windows :)
[03:32] <willwh> certainly is refreshing!
[03:32] <Leefmc> willwh, Amen
[03:33] <Leefmc> willwh, Once i can get my MX Revolution in working order, i'll be set hehe
[03:33] <JohnPhys> anirudh0:  well, the ntfs module still exists in gutsy, so I think ti's there. and my friend was able to use the ntfs kernel driver (not the fuse one) to mount the partition sucessfully.
[03:33] <alan_m> anirudh0, ok, thanks buddy, lets see if this works......if i messed it up before...i had a backup so i wasnt too terribly afraid.
[03:33] <fdhdh> does anyone have access to a clean hoary install(no other packages installed)
[03:34] <Leefmc> willwh, You know xconf.conf at all? (i think thats what its called), there is a MX Revolution tutorial for an older ubuntu install, but im not sure if it would still apply for Hardy
[03:34] <yowwww> can anyone help with a thin client server configuration?
[03:34] <JohnPhys> fdhdh: ....Hoary or Hardy?
[03:34] <fdhdh> umm.. 8.04
[03:34] <alan_m> fdhdh, thats Hardy :)
[03:34] <willwh> Leefmc: xorg.conf :)
[03:34] <fdhdh> woops...well, anyone have access to a clean hardy install?
[03:34] <anirudh0_> hoary was the second one..antique
[03:34] <willwh> Leefmc: It will probably still apply to hardy
[03:34] <JohnPhys> fdhdh:  Hardy :)  I can't help with that, but I thought I'd at least ask ot clear up any confusion for those that can help.
[03:34] <alan_m> fdhdh, i might be fixing to if this doesnt work, lol
[03:35] <fdhdh> does anyone know how to get a recursive list of package dependencies?
[03:35] <alan_m> fdhdh, but as of right now, i dont.
[03:35] <Leefmc> willwh, Lemme grab the link, take a peak and let me know. IIRC xorg.conf is an insanely important file correct? (Also, if i end up screwin the file up, what would be my recover options?)
[03:35] <willwh> Leefmc: I was going to link this; it's not ubuntu specific though - http://andy.hillhome.org/blog/2006/09/27/logitech-mx-revolution-in-linux/
[03:35] <alan_m> fdhdh, for all packages?
[03:35] <willwh> Leefmc: let's pm session
[03:35] <fdhdh> yeah
[03:35] <alan_m> fdhdh, your asking for a huge list there, heh
[03:36] <Starnestommy> fdhdh: try apt-cache depends
[03:36] <fdhdh> i mean like...i have an ubuntu machine with no internet, and i want to install something on it...i want to generate all dependencies so i can download them, burn em to cd, and then give it to synaptic
[03:36] <Bodsda> !aptoncd | fdhd
[03:36] <Bodsda> fdhdh, ^^^
[03:36] <alan_m> !apton.......meh
[03:36] <anirudh0_> fdhdh: use fluxubuntu live cd then..easier and faster..and it has nothing on it except bare min
[03:37]  * alan_m shoulda backspaced that..sorry
[03:37] <alan_m> :D
[03:37] <connor> is there a way to make a shortcut on the desktop for xkill?
[03:37] <fdhdh> yeah but how do i get APTonCD there
[03:37] <anirudh0_> alan_m: how do you produce these *<stuff>
[03:37] <fdhdh> i would need to install it along with a bunch of dependencies i bet
[03:37] <alan_m> anirudh0,  its called the /me command
[03:37]  * anirudh0_ test
[03:37] <yowwww> connor - force quit applet not working well enough?
[03:38] <connor> no
[03:38] <Bodsda> fdhdh, you download it as an iso
[03:38] <connor> i just want to be able to double click it
[03:38] <yowwww> create a launcher
[03:38] <yowwww> but you'll need to click on the app too after
[03:38] <alan_m> fdhdh, if you download the iso, it includes the dependencies :D
[03:38] <connor> because sometimes my programs are fullscreen, they get forced windowed if my screensaver popups and forcequit has no effect
[03:38] <connor> so a desktop icon for xkill would be quite lovely
[03:39] <fdhdh> downlaod what iso?
[03:39] <eraldo> is there a filebrowser like filezilla but for desktop use (nautilus replace)
[03:39] <alan_m> fdhdh, for fluxbuntu
[03:39] <fdhdh> i already have ubuntu installed
[03:39] <Bodsda> connor, you could use a program called zenity to open a dialog box then you enter a prog name and it executes killall <proggname>
[03:39] <connor_> so yeah thats basically it
[03:39] <anirudh0_> fdhdh: you are not listening
[03:39] <eraldo> or can I setup nautilus to also have 2 path windows ?
[03:39] <connor_> no
[03:39] <connor_> i just want a desktop icon for it
[03:39] <connor_> is that too much to ask?
[03:39] <fdhdh> what would fluxubuntu let me do?
[03:39] <yowwww> connor - create a launcher then
[03:39] <connor_> this is linux we are dealing with. anything is possible with linux
[03:39] <anirudh0_> eraldo: "path window"?
[03:39] <connor_> how?
[03:40] <connor_> think i  go tit
[03:40] <connor_> got it*
[03:40] <fdhdh> i dont see how downloading fluxubuntu will solve my problems
[03:40] <Bodsda> fdhdh, download aptoncd?
[03:40] <darthanubis> have flubuntu ever become final?
[03:40] <connor_> woohoo it worked!
[03:40] <anirudh0_> eraldo: nautilus has no tabs ..or split view..if thats what you need