[09:53] <patrick_king> im having get INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS linux drivers for my dell c400 does anyone know where i can get these drivers
[09:53] <patrick_king> trouble^
[09:53] <Nathanael> trouble?
[09:54] <patrick_king> im having TROUBLE getting get INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS linux drivers for my dell c400 does anyone know where i can get these drivers
[09:54] <imbrandon> patrick_king, that should use the i810 drivers already loaded in ubuntu
[09:54] <patrick_king> i missed the trouble
[09:54] <imbrandon> patrick_king, please dont repeate
[09:54] <Nathanael> ah
[09:54] <patrick_king> it is using the i810 but it doesnt seem to run very well
[09:54] <SeanTater> patrick_king: chances are, they are already there, you could do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:55] <imbrandon> patrick_king, thats the correct drivers, whats your problems ( how doesnt "it work very well"
[09:55] <imbrandon> )
[09:55] <monkey89> hey - trying to get my network interface running on startup - it runs dhcp fine, but for some reason it isn't automatically associating with the wireless essid.  anyone know why this might be happening?  /etc/network/interfaces looks fine
[09:56] <psilon> still cant edit xorg
[09:56] <monkey89> it has two words in quotes, could that be why?
[09:56] <psilon> any ideas?
[09:56] <SeanTater> monkey89: wep or pra on?
[09:56] <monkey89> nope, very simple
[09:56] <monkey89> (The essid has two words)
[09:56] <stephan__> I'm trying to setup graphics acceleration for the ATI radeon 9000 card on my laptop, but I'm running into some trouble. FIrst, I attempted installing the official ATI drivers but that didn't seem to work so I followed ATI's instructions to uninstall them. Then, I tried the method on this page for installing dapper drake's included driver: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide. fglrxinfo is now giving me a bunch of
[09:56] <stephan__>  lines with "API ERROR" on them.
[09:56] <pike_> monkey89: try sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces you should have an entry that says auto eth0 or somesuch i think
[09:56] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow,  just plugged my ipod back in, rythm box can see ALL the songs on it (and play them) only they arent all listed on my ipod, so it seems the ipod databse on the ipod has got corrupt? any way i can fix this?
[09:57] <monkey89> pike_, yeah - the whole file is fine, its the exact same as I used at home... its just that its not associating to the essid i have set in it
[09:57] <monkey89> could that be because its in quotes?
[09:57] <risto> aarg! xml? or sh (installation)
[09:57] <imbrandon> scott__, you will most like ly have to restore it ( from the apple software ) if thats the case
[09:57] <patrick_king> seantater: what should i put for the memory for video card i have 256mb installed
[09:57] <Nathanael> scott: Have you tried Amarok?
[09:57] <psilon> says cannot open display
[09:57] <yallaman> anyone able to give a n00b a hand getting direct rendering working on nvidia? im going crazy here..:/
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: I dont know about that, I would pull them with rythem and save them to your PC the when you push them back Ipod should see them
[09:58] <g-nome> is there a command to CLEAN up and remove all unneeded files/dependencies?
[09:58] <matth-w> Trying to install znes on my machine, and I can't seem to get it installed completely
[09:58] <SeanTater> patrick_king: I;m not sure, but I think you may be able to leave that alone
[09:58] <scott__> Nathanael, thats what borked it in the first place :D
[09:58] <SeanTater> patrick_king: gtg sorry
[09:58] <Nathanael> ah
[09:58] <garryF> yallaman google for easybuntu and run that script. It should install your graphics driver
[09:58] <patrick_king> wats 32mb in kb
[09:58] <sysdoc> Does anyone have a url with instructions on how to import email from a previous Evolution into anothers users Evolution?
[09:59] <psilon> anyone?
[09:59] <g-nome> is there a command to CLEAN up and remove all unneeded files/dependencies?
[09:59] <monkey89> here's my interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16387
[09:59] <ThalesMan44> Bonswaar tout le monde !
[09:59] <psilon> i need to edit config file to get mouse working any ideas?
[09:59] <ThalesMan44> arf mdr i'm french :s
[09:59] <neoncode> Hey I used that gnome network manager panel applet to connect to a wireless network. But I chose the wrong type of Enycription. How do I delete that network entry or change it?
[09:59] <yallaman> running it now garryF ..but i allready installed nvidia-glx as it says in the guide..hope "easy" will fix it then
[09:59] <garryF> yallaman Crosssing fingers.
[10:00] <Nathanael> Double-click the network icon in the tray and configure
[10:00] <g-nome> is there a command to CLEAN up and remove all unneeded files/dependencies?
[10:00] <neoncode> Nathanael: Double-clicking brings up the menu thing then closes it again.
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: WIll acdeesee work under wine? There is an Ipod plugin for it that really works well..
[10:00] <monkey89> hey - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16387 is my interfaces file - but it isnt setting the essid, im using ndiswrapper, whats wrong?
[10:01] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, not a clue, never used it before :), trying gtkpod see if its got anything in there that could fix it
[10:01] <pike_> monkey89: well in bash id suggest word1\ word2 instead of the quotes but im not sure
[10:01] <Pelo> afternoon folks   does ubuntu have a little app to dispaly my ul/dl speed in the taskbar ?
[10:01] <Nathanael> ?
[10:01] <Nathanael> then close it?
[10:01] <Nathanael> *closes
[10:01] <Nathanael> ?
[10:01] <neoncode> Yea...
[10:02] <neoncode> It;s only a drop down box thing.
[10:02] <larson9999> what does ubuntu use instead of modprobe.preoload ?
[10:02] <sysdoc> g-nome, apt-get clean
[10:02] <yallaman> garryF  i got this error..after "easy" was done http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16388
[10:02] <sysdoc> g-nome, see man apt-get
[10:02] <g-nome> sysdoc: thanks! does it also work for aptitude?
[10:02] <neoncode> It's this NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2 thing
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: can you mount it as a drive?
[10:02] <Nathanael> neoncode: System>Administration>Networking
[10:03] <sysdoc> g-nome, close it first
[10:03] <Nathanael> Then chose your interface, and chose properties
[10:03] <larson9999> modules
[10:03] <g-nome> close what?
[10:03] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, yes, ive got it mounted atm, rythmbox and gtkpod can see ALL my songs, but on my ipod i can only see a few....
[10:03] <garryF> yallaman change the driver from nv to nvidia
[10:03] <sysdoc> g-nome, aptitude
[10:03] <garryF> yallaman sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__:  since it is mounted you should be able to copy them to a different location
[10:04] <neoncode> Nathanael: Nope... that's not it... This is compleatly diffrent...
[10:04] <Nathanael> ?
[10:04] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, if worst comes to worst i will copy them off ipod to pc then back to ipod, but it means i will loose play counts, play lists etc
[10:04] <g-nome> sysdoc: if nothing is shown, that mean nothing is to be cleaned?
[10:04] <mikeo1> hell yeah finally got flash sound working with amd64 in wine with firefox
[10:04] <yallaman> Section "Device"
[10:04] <yallaman>     Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce PCX 5750] "
[10:04] <yallaman>     Driver         "nvidia"        it was there from before
[10:04] <Nathanael> You are trying ot change your encyption type- correct?
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: that is better than losing all your music..
[10:05] <Nathanael> I assume from WEP to WPA or something...
[10:05] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, definately :), cheers for ur help so far :()
[10:05] <scott__> *:)
[10:05] <garryF> yallman sec ...
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Np, Ipods can be tricky
[10:05] <scott__> just dont know if i wanna trust linux with it again :(
[10:05] <scott__> cant be doing with another scare like this :)
[10:06] <sysdoc> g-nome, probably means nothing was there or it cleaned it out
[10:06] <garryF> yallaman try this sudo nvidia-glx-config enable then hit ctrl-alt-backspace. If you see the nvidia splash screen or your screensavers euphoria is animated it worked.
[10:06] <scott__> if i click 'sync' in gtkpod will it delete all files from my ipod if i dont have them in my pc/library? or just re-write the itunes database with any changes i may have amde to files on my ipod?
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> scott__: I loaded up the wifes Ipod once and havent messed with it much since
[10:07] <scott__> Jack_Sparrow, lol
[10:07] <g-nome> is it a good thing a program is written in python
[10:07] <ThalesMan44> french here mdr?
[10:07] <yallaman> i get the same error here
[10:08] <g-nome> !fr
[10:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:08] <yallaman> and the nvidia splash have been here all the time
[10:08] <Pelo> !internet
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about internet
[10:08] <garryF> yallaman Oh than your nvidia hardware accelleration is already working.
[10:08] <tritium> yallaman: nvidia splash means you're already using the proprietary driver
[10:08] <Pelo> !bandwidth
[10:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about bandwidth
[10:09] <yallaman> also the screensaver works
[10:09] <chopchop_> anyone knows how to take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[10:09] <g-nome> print screen
[10:09] <Pelo> !banwidth
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about banwidth
[10:09] <tritium> chopchop_: the printscreen button
[10:09] <ThalesMan44> merci ubotu
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: there are tools for that in the debs
[10:09] <chopchop_> tritium: then paste it in gimp?
[10:09] <nathanael> scott__: I have used my 3G iPod multiple times with Amarok, and without issues....
[10:09] <sysdoc> !network
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[10:09] <sysdoc> lol
[10:09] <sysdoc> putz
[10:09] <chopchop_> ok thanks guys, will try
[10:09] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~/easyubuntu$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:09] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:09] <tritium> chopchop_: it opens a dialog box so you can save it
[10:09] <g-nome> !ubuntu
[10:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:09] <yallaman> thats my prob
[10:09] <Pelo> ubotu doesnm'T iknow mucjh does he
[10:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about doesnm'T iknow mucjh does he
[10:10] <g-nome> he does
[10:10] <Pelo> !widget
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about widget
[10:10] <garryF> sec ...
[10:10] <sysdoc> lol
[10:10] <g-nome> ubotu ati
[10:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:10] <scott__> nathanael, well it screwed my 5g up :(, do you know if i press sync in gtkpod whether it will mess my ipod up as i havent any music on my pc or will it just re-write itunes db on my ipod with any changes i mighta made?
[10:10] <tritium> Pelo: please, conduct your experiments in a private query with ubotu
[10:10] <chopchop_> tritium: nothing happen? im using xfce not gnome
[10:10] <nathanael> Sorry Mate, Don't use GTKPod
[10:10] <tritium> chopchop_: oh, I don't know in xfce
[10:10] <scott__> ok np
[10:10] <nathanael> !nothing
[10:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[10:10] <nathanael> lol
[10:10] <Pelo> tritium I'm not experimenting, I am actualy trying to get some help
[10:10] <g-nome> chopchop_: you can download a small program with sybnapitc
[10:11] <g-nome> chopchop_: just make a search (in synaptic) for "screenshot"
[10:11] <chopchop_> g-nome: what is the name please?
[10:11] <__mikem> ONce I install the right package, in whoat dirrectory are the header files installed?
[10:11] <g-nome> chopchop_: it's a widget for the toolbar
[10:11] <pike_> Pelo: he's no dpkg now thats a bot
[10:11] <tritium> Pelo: you can ask questions in the channel.  You can also query ubotu privately
[10:11] <garryF> say yallaman and you have this in your modules section .... Load	"dri"
[10:11] <chopchop_> g-nome: found it, thanks
[10:12] <__mikem> tritium, once I install that package, what dirrectory are the linux headers installed
[10:12] <Pelo> tritium thanks
[10:12] <garryF> say yallaman and this at the end? Section "DRI"
[10:12] <garryF> 	Mode	0666
[10:12] <garryF> EndSection
[10:12] <killaz> I want a mount to automount when I login..... how can I do that with /etc/fstab?
[10:12] <Pelo> I am looking for a little ap to display my connections speed in the taskbar  anyone have a clue ?
[10:12] <tommie-> anybody know about this classpath problem i have with hoary with latest java installed, ive exported everything correctly but still wont recognize any classes
[10:12] <tritium> __mikem: I don't recall.  please "dpkg -L <packagename>" to find out where files in a package are
[10:12] <yallaman> nope
[10:12] <grimboy> Is there a linux program for cleaning up semi-corrupt video? I remember something along these lines on windows.
[10:12] <killaz> or at least that I'm the only that can use that mount
[10:12] <tritium> killaz: with the "auto" mount option
[10:12] <psilon> could someone please tell me what i replace in xorg.conf to make my mouse work it says PS2 in device but i have a serial ms intellimouse
[10:13] <g-nome> to add a repo to sources.list, do i HAVE to add "dapper" after the http address?
[10:13] <yallaman> could you post in pastebin..so i can see how it should be?
[10:13] <killaz> tritium, I'm using /etc/stab ..... and its a samba mount
[10:13] <garryF> yes. will do sec ....
[10:13] <tritium> killaz: you mean /etc/fstab?  Again, use the "auto" option
[10:13] <yoshiznit123> !libdbus-1-dev
[10:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about libdbus-1-dev
[10:13] <loststar4545> is there quick way to associate all multimedia files to mplayer
[10:14] <g-nome> loststar: yes
[10:14] <sysdoc> Pelo, rt clk the task panel and add network monitor
[10:14] <psilon> could someone please tell me what i replace in xorg.conf to make my mouse work it says PS2 in device but i have a serial ms intellimouse anyone?
[10:14] <killaz> tritium, so far I have this //<windows machine name>/<shared folder>   /<mountpoint>   smbfs  auto,username=<user>,credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[10:14] <Pelo> sysdoc that doesn'T do what I want
[10:14] <psilon> i know theres a command i can type
[10:14] <g-nome> loststar4545: right click on file -> properties->open with
[10:14] <garryF> yallaman Here ye go. just look for the dri and make sure it's in there. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16389
[10:14] <killaz> tritium, but I only want me to see the mount..
[10:14] <tommie-> :/
[10:14] <yallaman> ty ..ill have look
[10:15] <g-nome> to add a repo to sources.list, do i HAVE to add "dapper" after the http address?
[10:15] <killaz> so what should I leave the user option?
[10:15] <garryF> yallman Welcome. how do you test your dri?
[10:15] <psilon> what do i put next to protocol in xorg.conf for a microsoft intellimouse on serial on a com port
[10:15] <psilon> it currently says ps2
[10:15] <pike_> killaz: you could always mount it under your home dir and chmod 700 /home/killaz
[10:16] <garryF> yallaman I want to test to make sure mine is working.
[10:16] <killaz> pike_, oh wait if I mount it on a folder with 644 that means I'm the only one that can write.... thnx
[10:17] <killaz> pike_, forgot that
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> imbrandon I thought you were running Kubuntu?
[10:17] <lonegeek> How do i mount a fat 32 hard drive....? on dev/hdc
[10:17] <imbrandon> Jack_Sparrow, i am ( dosent mean i cant help ubuntu people ;) )
[10:17] <yallaman> ok..so now restart xserver? or dont i need to?
[10:17] <kristian> I have installed the driver for ATI, but when i read the info in command line, i have this :display: :0.0  screen: 0  OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org   OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect   OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> true
[10:17] <garryF> yallaman could not hurt.
[10:17] <psilon> can anyone help with the mouse problem
[10:17] <refuze> hey when i install Kubuntu why doesn't it give me the option to format to ReiserFS?
[10:17] <imbrandon> lonegeek, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc /mount/point
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> You helped me in Ku.. but it just wasnt stable enough so I came here and it is working fine.
[10:17] <psilon> happened after i restarted xserver to run in higher rez
[10:18] <uniq> psilon: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse4.html
[10:18] <yoshiznit123> does anyone know how I can find which repository a given package comes from?
[10:18] <psilon> ok
[10:18] <imbrandon> refuze, if you would use the text installer it does
[10:18] <uniq> yoshiznit123: apt-cache madison packagename
[10:18] <scott__> nathanael, PHEEEEW fixed it by 'synching' with gtkpod, apparantly using amarok 1.3* only 256 songs are shown on ur ipod due to a bug on 4g or newer, damn amarok, gtkpod all the way for me ;)
[10:18] <refuze> imbrandon, why do i need to use the text installer?
[10:19] <sysdoc> Pelo, bwm (bandwidth monitor)
[10:19] <imbrandon> refuze, becouse reiserfs isnt supported on the livecd installer ;)
[10:19] <lonegeek> imbrandon: how do i unmount it...... umount?
[10:19] <imbrandon> lonegeek, yes
[10:19] <yoshiznit123> uniq, thanks! ....why madison? :-)
[10:19] <imbrandon> yoshiznit123, thats the command name ;)
[10:19] <garryF> yallaman is it working now?
[10:19] <lonegeek> imbrandon: when mounting i get mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/backup busy
[10:19] <xenex> !ipod
[10:19] <refuze> imbrandon, it's supported in the gnome livecd installer.. =/
[10:19] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[10:20] <lonegeek> imbrandon: then i do sudo umount /dev/hdc    it says its unmounted..
[10:20] <psilon> ok
[10:20] <uniq> yoshiznit123: because that's the name of the function you want :) you can use 'apt-cache policy packagename' too, if you want, i find madison cleaner.
[10:20] <imbrandon> refuze, yes but not the kubuntu one, you ask how and i gave you the awnser
[10:20] <psilon> how do i save the edited info in nano?
[10:20] <psilon> write out?
[10:20] <darknessofevil> Ctrl+O
[10:20] <darknessofevil> yep
[10:20] <imbrandon> psilon, yes
[10:20] <yallaman> screen saver and logo is there but i have no direct rendering
[10:20] <refuze> imbrandon, i was just wondering why they didn't support it.. thanks for the solution though
[10:20] <psilon> cool
[10:21] <imbrandon> refuze, basicly becouse the support isnt in qtparted yet, when it is we will support it
[10:21] <psilon> thanks
[10:21] <garryF> yallaman Hmmm, how do you test to see if you have direct rendering? What card do you have?
[10:21] <lonegeek> imbrandon: YEAH ITS WORKIGN!!! yes now i can back everything up...!!!
[10:21] <garryF> !dri
[10:21] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[10:21] <psilon> hmm
[10:21] <psilon> mouse still doesnt seem to be moving
[10:22] <psilon> but changed protocol to microsoft
[10:22] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:22] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:22] <imbrandon> psilon, how is your mouse hocked to your computer
[10:22] <killaz> instead of smbfs can i use other command? just out of curiosity
[10:22] <imbrandon> killaz, for mounting smb drives ?
[10:22] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:22] <yoshiznit123> ok, do any apt gurus know how to downgrade a package back to a repository version after a non-repo version has been installed?
[10:22] <Sivik> how do you rip to create iso's off of a disc?
[10:22] <psilon> direct rendereing no?
[10:23] <killaz> imbrandon, yup
[10:23] <asathoor> hi
[10:23] <imbrandon> killaz nope
[10:23] <imbrandon> yoshiznit123, uninstall the app and reinstall it
[10:23] <yallaman> it says so... im having some problems enabeling direct rendering it seems:p
[10:23] <garryF> yallaman: Got me stupmed. I get direct redering yes. What model of nvidia do you have?
[10:23] <imbrandon> Sivik, dd
[10:24] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[10:24] <Sivik> thanks
[10:24] <yoshiznit123> imbrandon, i can't uninstall it, its libdbus-1-2 and a bunch of things depend on it. I tried apt-get install --reinstall, but it says 'package cannot be downloaded'
[10:24] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:24] <asathoor> my system disk is almost full, but apprantly there is lots of space on my hd. However I cannot resize the system hd - what should I do?
[10:24] <garryF> Possbly but unlikley you might have to reboot
[10:24] <yallaman> Section "Device"
[10:24] <yallaman>     Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce PCX 5750]
[10:24] <uniq> yoshiznit123: sudo apt-get install packagename=version
[10:24] <yoshiznit123> ahhh, uniq, you are wicked :-)
[10:25] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:25] <finalbeta> Can someone recommend me a C/C++ IDE (code completion) for linux? I was using Dev-C++ in windows.
[10:25] <imbrandon> finalbeta, kdevelop3
[10:25] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:25] <grimboy> finalbeta, eclipse
[10:25] <hanasaki> hey imbrandon
[10:25] <imbrandon> eclipse == java isnt it ?
[10:25] <uniq> yoshiznit123: my girlfriend thinks so too.:)
[10:25] <yoshiznit123> haha
[10:25] <imbrandon> hey hanasaki
[10:25] <hanasaki> in dapper 6.06 gnome... how do i change the program that runs when a desktop data file is clicked on
[10:25] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:25] <grimboy> imbrandon, No, it's written in java but can be used for loads of languages
[10:26] <jajaja-> how can i set myself to have write permissions to everything all the time
[10:26] <yallaman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16390 here it says that it is using mesa drivers it seems
[10:26] <jajaja-> right now I can read only
[10:26] <asathoor> hansaki >> i don't get what you mean...
[10:26] <patrick_king> hello i have a dell c400 in windows i can run guildwars but in ubuntu cedega doesnt pass all the tests it fails 3D Acceleration, Copy protection and OSS sound
[10:26] <hanasaki> asathoor: double click an icon on the destop.. a program runs to handle the datafile.
[10:26] <shana> hey
[10:27] <asathoor> jajaja >> just write sudo in the prompt
[10:27] <asathoor> hi shanaa
[10:27] <jajaja-> i tried that with no luck
[10:27] <shana> i have this problem cd'ing to a directory, it has a ~ in the name
[10:27] <grimboy> patrick_king, Have you installed the drivers for your gfx card?
[10:27] <shana> how do i get into it?
[10:27] <psilon> aaargh
[10:27] <psilon> could someone please tell me how to configure a serial mouse for xorg>?"
[10:27] <asathoor> have you tried something like # sudo apt-get install ... foo bar
[10:28] <garryF> yallaman Hmm, I looked at some paes. It says sometimes a reboot is necessary. I note that your card is listed among those supported.
[10:28] <hanasaki> asathoor: ?
[10:28] <patrick_king> grimboy: it is using ubuntus defult drivers as i dont know how to install the driver and its a laptop
[10:28] <pike_> jajaja-: you can do sudo -s or sudo -i for a root term until you exit
[10:28] <psilon> cheerz
[10:28] <yallaman> so reboot then
[10:28] <garryF> yallaman er paes = pages
[10:28] <psilon> ppl
[10:28] <psilon> thanks for all your help
[10:28] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:28] <grimboy> patrick_king, What's the brand of your graphics card?
[10:28] <garryF> yallaman Yep
[10:28] <shana> how do you cd a directory with ~ in the filename?
[10:28] <peritus> my atheros based wifi-card wont show up in network-manager. i can see it in ifconfig. how can i control it from network-manager?
[10:28] <patrick_king> intel
[10:28] <pike_> jajaja-: anything else you might as well just enable the root account
[10:29] <garryF> Invlude the ~ in the filename like it was any other character
[10:29] <yallaman> kk..brb
[10:29] <grimboy> shana, escape it with a \ like \~
[10:29] <asathoor> hanasaki >> foo means "something" and bar "something else" - it is traditional nerd lingo...
[10:29] <shana> i tried that, it doesn'ts work
[10:29] <garryF> Hmm
[10:29] <patrick_king> its a 32 MEG INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS
[10:29] <hanasaki> asathoor:  no i mean about the applicaitons used for data files clicked ont he desktop
[10:29] <shana> bash: cd: -~: invalid option
[10:29] <shana> ohh, wait a sec
[10:30] <shana> i know what's going on...
[10:30] <Canard> What is the directory you want to change to shana?
[10:30] <asathoor> hanasaki >> ok, I get your point :)
[10:30] <hanasaki> asathoor:  have an answer please?
[10:30] <shana> uhhh still doesn't work
[10:30] <shana> the directory is:
[10:31] <shana> -~mininova.org~- Blah Blah Blah
[10:31] <yanis> is there any easy way to install xgl at ubuntu6.10?
[10:31] <hanasaki> 6.10?  not 6.06? i thought the next version and xgl in it
[10:32] <pike_> yanis: you might have better luck in ubuntu-xgl
[10:32] <BSoDirl> anyone have problems compiling wine?
[10:32] <Canard> try \home\shana\\~mininova.org\~
[10:32] <revartj> how i can chage the resolution in ubuntu daper
[10:32] <revartj> ??
[10:32] <grimboy> revartj, xrandr
[10:32] <someothernick> anyone use hellanzb?
[10:32] <jajaja-> how can I enable root account
[10:32] <patrick_king> grimboy: its a 32 MEG INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS
[10:32] <asathoor> BSoDirl >> no, I just used apt-get
[10:32] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[10:33] <BSoDirl> dialup, and I had the tar.bz2 on my usb stick
[10:33] <garryF> I have a feeling that trying to find an easy way to get xgl working with so many possible variations on a system, is like trying to find an easy way to dig a ditch with a shovel. No mater what, careful reading might be required.
[10:33] <grimboy> patrick_king, Yeah, unfortunately I can't find any info on it. Maybe ask on the message boards?
[10:33] <BSoDirl> that's gonna take a couple hrs :S
[10:33] <Canard> What type of encoding does ubuntu use normally to save text files?
[10:33] <shana> Canard, there is a hyphen and a tilde next to each other on each side, like -~
[10:33] <BSoDirl> you can bet the farm I'm gonna copy this to my usb stick too :>
[10:34] <fijam> hello. I have got an old ISA sound card, which was not decected by Ubuntu. How do I make it work?
[10:34] <garryF> skavenge: Hmmm, I've heard of this issue, very annoying that. If the device is listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you might be able to comment out the line.
[10:34] <Canard> \home\shana\\-\~mininova.org\~\-  ?
[10:34] <BSoDirl> oh well, I'll letcha know how it goes :)
[10:34] <revartj> grimboy, thank
[10:35] <someothernick> Anyone use hellanzb? I get errors something is off with my config file.
[10:35] <garryF> Some folks would not even be touching the pad and it would start zipping around clicking as it goes.
[10:35] <skavenge> garryF; haven't found a listing for the tap to click itself and don't wanna disable the whole touchpad as it works fine
[10:35] <revartj> grimboy, one think, for change a resolution to 1440x900 i put this--> xrandr -s 1440x900
[10:35] <pike_> jajaja-: sudo passwd and then type your user password then whatever root password you want to create you can disable again by typing like sudo passwd -l root (but i dont really suggest enabling)
[10:35] <patrick_king> hello does anyone know how i get GLX rendering on my INTEL 830 M GRAPHICS
 for my dell latitude c400
[10:35] <revartj> but it have problems
[10:35] <grimboy> revartj, Either that or the mode number.
[10:35] <mikere> Is there any difference between nvidia-glx and the nvidia driver install package from nvidia.com?
[10:36] <grimboy> revartj, What problems?
[10:36] <shana> Canard, still doesn't work.. and why are your path slashes backwards?
[10:36] <yallaman> still: admin@nixbox:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:36] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:36] <skavenge> i've done alot of forum searching and it seems tap-to-click is a thorn in alot of peoples' side, especially alps touchpads heh
[10:36] <revartj> grimboy, in parameter size that i have put
[10:36] <danfg> you guys have any idea how i can control some app like mplayer in the background with some hotkeys?
[10:36] <garryF> skavenge Check under system/adminstration/device manager or preferences, maybe something there. I wish you the best of luck.
[10:37] <skavenge> thanks
[10:37] <Canard> shana, because I am just guessing based on what was said above by grimboy and the little I know about escape characters in C
[10:37] <pike_> danfg: what are you wanting to do?
[10:37] <garryF> yallaman: Hmmm, You do seem to have hardware accelleration. I wonder if there is a minor bug saying your dri isn't working when it is?
[10:37] <Canard> /home/shana/\-\~mininova.org\~\-
[10:37] <revartj> grimboy, you can understand me
[10:38] <danfg> pike_: exactly what i said, control mplayer with some hotkeys, but while i'm using other apps
[10:38] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~$ locate libGL:
[10:38] <yallaman>  /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa
[10:38] <yallaman> /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa
[10:38] <yallaman>   shouldnt it be nvidia driver and not mesa?
[10:38] <grimboy> revartj, Unfortunately not, sorry.
[10:39] <yallaman> im clueless now
[10:39] <mikere> How do I get to straight console mode with no X?  I was sure I used to use init 3.  init 1 won't work for installing the nvidia proprietary drivers.  Any hints?
[10:39] <Syco54645> can anyone recommend a good text to speech or screen reader
[10:39] <Syco54645> none that i am trying work
[10:39] <uniq> yallaman: no, the .xlibmesa extension is because they are disabled, and replaced by the nvidia ones.
[10:41] <shana> oh well, thanks for your help
[10:41] <kristian> !easyubuntu
[10:41] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:41] <shana> bye
[10:41] <_Spire_> mikere: you could always try booting into X, then going to a console (ctrl-alt-1) and then stopping gdm (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop)
[10:41] <revartj> grimboy, in mode grapihs only i saw the resolution 640x480, I want change to resolution of 1440x900, how i can do
[10:41] <garryF> I note a lot of folks seem to be having issues or questiona about dri and the GeForce PCX 5750 card with ubuntu.
[10:41] <_Spire_> mikere: otherwise, I always thought it was init 2
[10:41] <garryF> googled for it.
[10:41] <grimboy> revartj, What is the output of xrandr?
[10:41] <yallaman> here is my xorg.conf it it helps: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16391
[10:42] <mikere> _Spire_: thanks, will give it a shot
[10:42] <revartj> grimboy, SZ:    Pixels          Physical       Refresh
[10:42] <revartj> *0    640 x 480    ( 217mm x 163mm )  *-25551
[10:42] <revartj> Current rotation - normal
[10:42] <revartj> Current reflection - none
[10:42] <revartj> Rotations possible - normal
[10:42] <revartj> Reflections possible - none
[10:42] <revartj> sorry
[10:42] <garryF> I'm going to look now
[10:43] <grimboy> revartj, What graphics card and monitor do you have?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> revartj: please dont paste in the channel
[10:43] <_Spire_> !pastebin
[10:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:43] <rus2> is it possible to format an 80gb hard drive with FAT32?
[10:43] <_Spire_> rus2: the whole thing?
[10:43] <jajaja-> how can i login as root or change admin passwd
[10:44] <revartj> grimboy, I have to ati movility radeon 9700 in to lapto sony vaio-a217s
[10:44] <rus2> _Spire: Yeah, it's an extra. I want to read/write in both Ubuntu and Windows
[10:44] <mikere> jajaja: use sudo su from console to become root
[10:44] <_Spire_> jajaja-: try sudo first (sudo -s gets you to root)
[10:44] <mikere> jajaja: once in su, you can use passwd to change password
[10:44] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: its not advised to log into gnome/xfce/kde or any other desktop as root
[10:44] <Chetic> Does ATi's graphics drivers support hardware overlay?
[10:45] <_Spire_> rus2: you can make a new partition from the cli or gui? which do you prefer
[10:45] <grimboy> revartj, Hmm... Laptop support is poor, someone on the message boards might know.
[10:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> video overlay?
[10:45] <jajaja-> gnomefreak, I have only read writes and sudo or chown wont work to give me write access to files
[10:45] <rus2> _Spire: I don't care.
[10:45] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: are you system admin?
[10:45] <garryF> yallaman I'm sure, but might as well ask, you have tried this ....  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then try the easybuntu again if that don't work.
[10:46] <revartj> grimboy, i don't understand
[10:46] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: like YUV2
[10:46] <_Spire_> rus2: well, if you want to do it from X, install gparted (gtk) or qtparted (kde) or just use sudo cfdisk from the bash prompt
[10:46] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: if you are you should know the password
[10:46] <_Spire_> rus2: personally, I like cfdisk the best
[10:46] <yallaman> ok..ill try
[10:46] <rus2> _Spire: cfdisk wasn't working for me. I would think I had written the partition table, but when I quit nothing would have changed.
[10:46] <jajaja-> yes I am system admin gnomefreak
[10:47] <rus2> _Spire: I'm not 100% sure the drive is good.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: what file are you trying to edit?
[10:47] <jajaja-> sources.list
[10:47] <rus2> _Spire: What can I use to check it?
[10:47] <_Spire_> rus2: check your drive?
[10:47] <rus2> _Spire_:yeah
[10:47] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" when it asks for a password give it your user password
[10:47] <jajaja-> gnomefreak, when i do sudo -i it doesnt take me to root
[10:48] <shulman> I need to connect into my office with checkpoint VPN -- is there an equivilant piece of software for ubuntu?
[10:48] <jajaja-> ok ill try that gnonefreak
[10:48] <_Spire_> rus2: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdX'? (where X is whatever drive you're using - hda, hdb, etc
[10:48] <uniq> jajaja-: are you running theese commands as the user you added during installation?
[10:48] <jajaja-> uniq yes
[10:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic:  im not sure, all i know that with fglrx u can hava video overlay and opengl overlay ,
[10:48] <_Spire_> rus2: there's a possibility that it was created, but there isn't a filesystem on it, or there's something wrong
[10:49] <uniq> jajaja-: if not, you would need to be in the admin group to be able to run sudo.
[10:49] <jajaja-> gnomefreak, that command doesnt do anything
[10:49] <Chetic> ok n0ctuRnaL-fieNd.. all applications complain about me not having that support or some crap..
[10:49] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: if its not givi9ng you a # prompt your not typing in password right (or you tried to set su up)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: did you type it as i did
[10:49] <jajaja-> yes i did
[10:49] <gnomefreak> with the "
[10:49] <jajaja-> yes
[10:49] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: paste me what your prompt looks like atm
[10:50] <jajaja-> chris@ubuntu:~$
[10:50] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: ok type sudo -i
[10:50] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card" I mean what the hell :\
[10:50] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: does it prompt for a password?
[10:50] <yallaman> no error msg after using "easy" this time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16392 ..crosses fingers
[10:50] <darich> wow enlightenment is so god damn fast and snappy
[10:50] <jajaja-> no, its the same
[10:50] <gnomefreak> !language > darich
[10:51] <garryF> crosses toes too
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: type sudo apt-get update
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: does it than prompt you for password?
[10:51] <jajaja-> nope nothing
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: su than enter
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: what does it say?
[10:51] <jajaja-> there it goes
[10:51] <jajaja-> root@ubuntu /home
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: your password should not work with su
[10:52] <gnomefreak> good afternoon lilo
[10:52] <grimboy> Does anyone here run rtorrent?
[10:52] <jajaja-> is this setup gonna give me problems down the road the way it is...my final goal is setting mythtv on here
[10:53] <jajaja-> i can edit that file now gnomefreak
[10:53] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: with su and than your password did it give you root?
[10:53] <jajaja-> yes it gave me root gnomefreak
[10:53] <gnomefreak> it may now sudo will not work for you unless you make it
[10:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: try this aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[10:53] <gnomefreak> !root > jajaja-
[10:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: if that doesn help then i dont know
[10:53] <gnomefreak> jajaja-: read your pm from ubotu
[10:54] <jajaja-> ok thank you
[10:54] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic:how did u install the ati driver , and what video card do u have?
[10:54] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I have an ATi X800XL
[10:55] <Chetic> I installed it using the installer, today
[10:55] <yallaman> admin@nixbox:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[10:55] <yallaman> direct rendering: No
[10:55] <yallaman>  still..sigh
[10:55] <grimboy> How do you install democracy player? The official .deb depends on an old version of libboost
[10:55] <garryF> Rats! Got me. OH check /var/log/xorg.0.log for clues.
[10:56] <Chetic> uh n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, I changed to the GL renderer instead and it's working just fine..
[10:56] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: though that is just for mplayer...
[10:56] <killaz> I'm looking for a great for php under linux...
[10:57] <someothernick> grimboy: did you try apt-get install -f
[10:57] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: how did u install the driver?
[10:57] <nickstaken> when i was using the ubuntu tool to set partition size, I thought the amount of space I was giving the new partition was the amount of space I was taking from the old.  Suffice to say,I have a very small partition and I want to expand it.  How do I do this now?
[10:58] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: with the installer!
[10:58] <garryF> yallaman: Is that card AGP, Pic Express, or Pci?
[10:58] <yallaman> pci express
[10:59] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: ok , i do it a different way , i use the driver thats already compiled for ubuntu
[10:59] <Chetic> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: oh I didn't know there was that... but this still works very well
[11:00] <garryF> Well, is the screensaver speed laggy or jerky? If not, maybe Ubuntu is using another way of accelleration just as good as dri.
[11:00] <yallaman> hmm..i dont find anything wrong in the log file
[11:00] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Chetic: yeah  , you do it with apt-get ,
[11:01] <garryF> I would suspect, that there is nothing wrong. Maybe dri isn't neecessary with pci express. I'd just google a bit and not worry about if for now. I'm going to look around too.\
[11:01] <yallaman> euohoria scrns is kinda laggy..yes
[11:02] <yallaman> glxgears is slow too..but i can see the fps tho
[11:02] <nickstaken> when i was using the ubuntu tool to set partition size, I thought the amount of space I was giving the new partition was the amount of space I was taking from the old.  Suffice to say,I have a very small partition and I want to expand it.  How do I do this now?
[11:02] <someothernick> gparted
[11:03] <yallaman> when doing "the video test" in cedega the glxgears window pops up ..and running pretty fast
[11:03] <nickstaken> gparted?
[11:03] <yallaman> i mean..i "cant" see fps rate when doing glxgeras
[11:04] <someothernick> !gparted
[11:04] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:04] <nickstaken> thanks
[11:04] <someothernick> np :)
[11:04] <galorin> I'm having troubles with a bcm4306 Belkin card.  I've tried the ndiswrapper route, with no luck, and the same for using the native drivers along the fwcutter route.  What to do next?
[11:04] <ElBrujo> i cant mount my pendrive from my desktop
[11:04] <farruinn> How does inkscape and sodipodi compare to the openoffice drawing module?
[11:04] <ElBrujo> it say
[11:05] <ElBrujo> Error: can't execute pmount
[11:05] <yallaman> reason why i need this working it that cedega game wont run without it i think
[11:06] <garryF> Hmm. Anyone know why Yallman's pci express GeForce PCX 5750 is not running with dri? I'm stumped! He had the dri loaded, his xorg looked fine, but his euphoria screensaver is jerkey.
[11:07] <garryF> Hmmm, there is a trial of cedega that you could try out to see if that is so.
[11:07] <yallaman> im using cedega 5.1 here..game install went fine..but it crashes when starting the game
[11:07] <diop> helo
[11:08] <ElBrujo> i cant mout my pendrive from my Desktop
[11:08] <diop> need help >>> grub error 24 and no booting at all
[11:08] <Iam8up> diop - what's it all say..
[11:08] <dipnlik> ElBrujo: you can try reinstalling pmount
[11:08] <enterusername> hi all
[11:09] <enterusername> how do you restrict the amount of print jobs that can be in the queue
[11:09] <enterusername> i tried MaxUserJobs and that just restricts the active jobs
[11:09] <enterusername> but you can still do multiple print queues to queue up to a nightmare
[11:09] <MrKeuner> hi, I have just bought a IBM thinkpad R52 w/ the default battery, swiped out MS Windows OS and installed ubuntu dapper on it. My question is that I feel like the battery runs out too fast. like less than 2 hours. Is that normal? How can I increase battery usage? thanks
[11:10] <diop> Iam8up ||loading grub 1.5 please wait ... and after || Error 24
[11:10] <ElBrujo> ok
[11:11] <Iam8up> diop - where it has root (hdx,x)
[11:11] <Iam8up> change root to rootnoverify
[11:11] <Iam8up> tell me if that fixes it
[11:11] <regionalp> How do I install Ident?
[11:12] <diop> i cannot start the computer
[11:12] <dapper-ipodder> anyone familiar with banshee running on dapper?
[11:12] <diop> i have an ntfs part and another one for dapper
[11:12] <nickstaken> someothernick: gparted has resize greyed out for some reason?
[11:12] <garryF> yallaman You might try making sure you don't have anything like bios shadowing on.
[11:12] <nickstaken> on the root drive
[11:12] <someothernick> nickstaken: use live cd
[11:13] <garryF> yallaman also take a look and see what dmesg says.
[11:13] <someothernick> you can't resize a mounted partition
[11:13] <nickstaken> ok, thanks
[11:13] <someothernick> :)
[11:13] <garryF> yallaman What version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:13] <diop> Iam8up can u tell me how ? with live cd
[11:13] <regionalp> I am running Dapper, would anyone mind helping me install Ident?
[11:13] <yallaman> 6.06 dapper
[11:13] <Pasteurized> hi all
[11:14] <Iam8up> diop - in that case i have no idea, sorry
[11:14] <diop> ok thx
[11:14] <MrKeuner> anything that I have to know before installing dapper on Apple Macbook?
[11:14] <Pasteurized> I've added a partition to my fstab, but it's not mounted at startup
[11:15] <Pasteurized> I've added this line -> /dev/hdb1 	/media/data	ext3  rw,auto,mode=0755  0  0
[11:15] <galorin> MrKeuner, did you see what your battery life was like before removing windows?
[11:16] <meandi> how do I set the ip address of my pc?
[11:16] <MrKeuner> galorin/ No I did not accept their eula
[11:16] <yallaman> dmesg didnt tell me much..dunno what i should look for..hehe ...but.. i know the direct rendering test worked before i installed xgl/compiz
[11:16] <Iam8up> meandi - administration -> networking
[11:16] <meandi> lamBup: thanks
[11:17] <galorin> MrKeuner, ok, that's fine by me.  Just would have given a better reference point.  Things like usage habits and such will really affect your batt life, plus the batt is probably not broken in yet.
[11:18] <dapper-ipodder> anyone familiar with banshee on dapper? i can see/listen to the files, just can't sync
[11:18] <galorin> MrKeuner, a few full charge and discharge cycles will increade your battery life as a start.  Then look at things like cpu throttling, hdd spindown, etc.
[11:19] <MrKeuner> galorin/ by full charge and full discharge should I really wait untill laptop turns itself off before charging? or last couple mins are OK?
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> MrK is that Nimh battery lithium ion or ?
[11:20] <MrKeuner> dapper-ipodder/ drag and drop the files on ipod and then press sync then select manual
[11:20] <whizz-> how do i upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[11:21] <galorin> MrKeuner, that really depends on the type of battery.  I can't remember the rules off the top of my head.  What kind of battery is it?
[11:21] <Flannel> whizz-: gksudo update-manager
[11:21] <Jack_Sparrow> MrKeuner: Nimh are not as prone to memory like the older batteries
[11:21] <MrKeuner> galorin/ Li-ion as far as I know. can I see it somewhere under /proc?
[11:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mrh it will say on the battery
[11:22] <galorin> MrKeuner, it'll be written on the battery itself, easiest way to find out
[11:22] <Dial_tone> which bash config file do you set the editor in?
[11:23] <MrKeuner> galorin/ it is a Li-ion battery
[11:23] <garryF> say yallaman Hmmm, I'd remove the xgl/compiz unless you have an overriding reason not to.
[11:24] <garryF> yallaman I don' thave xgl/compiz and didnt install it because so many were getting issues after installin it.
[11:25] <galorin> MrKeuner, Good, they're tolerant batteries, so you dn't need to fully discharge them.  I'd reccomend also not keeping it at 100% charge, as that'll reduce it's runtime.
[11:25] <yallaman> ok..ill try to uninstall
[11:26] <MrKeuner> galorin/ do you recommend unplugging AC as soon as it is fully recharged?
[11:26] <MrKeuner> galorin/ or is there a setting for not keeping at 100% ?
[11:26] <garryF> yallaman good luck with that.
[11:26] <whizz-> Flannel: gksudo says my system is up-to-date, but at the same time a message pops up about a new release of ubuntu (There is a new release of Ubuntu available!
[11:26] <whizz->  - A new release with the codename 'dapper' is available. Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions.)
[11:27] <Flannel> whizz-: what?  update manager should prompt you regarding the upgrade, in a box above the normal "these are your upgrades" with a button to upgrade.  Unless it has changed.
[11:27] <Warbo> Does anyone know why I might get "wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to install windoze Firefox?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Warbo: look for libwine-dev
[11:28] <Warbo> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:28] <gnomefreak> yw Warbo most .so files are in the -dev libs
[11:29] <regionalp> I am trying to install ident, and I get this:
[11:29] <regionalp> Reading package lists... Done
[11:29] <regionalp> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:29] <regionalp> E: Couldn't find package identd
[11:29] <regionalp> any idea how I can install ident?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> regionalp: apt-cache search identd  and please dont paste in the channel
[11:29] <regionalp> ok, sorry
[11:30] <regionalp> Can I paste a single line?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> regionalp: ident2 install that
[11:30] <gnomefreak> regionalp: if on dapper
[11:30] <regionalp> gnomefreak: ok, how do I do that?
[11:30] <regionalp> I am on dapper
[11:30] <gnomefreak> regionalp: sudo apt-get install ident2
[11:31] <gnomefreak> regionalp: make sure universe repo is enabled
[11:31] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I get the exact same error message
[11:31] <gnomefreak> regionalp: you need to enable universe repo
[11:31] <regionalp> gnomefreak: how do I ensure universe repo is enabled?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !repo
[11:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about repo
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !repos
[11:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections.   I doubt there is, so pulling off AC is a good idea.  Laptops are designed to be portable.  Another option is to pull the battery out and just use it when off AC
[11:32] <gnomefreak> bet0x: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[11:32] <garryF> regionalp Yeah, pasting one line is fine.
[11:32] <MrKeuner> galorin/ i see. thank you very much, I was also thinking about removing the battery from laptop.
[11:33] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I have gone to those links, but I still do not understand how to enable universe repo.
[11:33] <MrKeuner> galorin/ I can remove the battery when it was at 100% charge level though, right?
[11:33] <garryF> !easysource > garryf
[11:33] <gnomefreak> regionalp: ok type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"   and paste the contents to that file on pastebin
[11:33] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ^^^ theres pastebin
[11:34] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Well that fixed one problem, but now it is asking for libncurses.so.4. I have installed a couple of ncurses dev packages but no luck
[11:34] <galorin> MrKeuner, no prob.  I had a laptop running ubuntu for ages, just went kaput on me, hdd and keyboard at the same time, and yes, you can remove the battery when it's at 100% or at whatever charge state it's at.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Warbo: ok give me a sec. are you on dapper?
[11:34] <regionalp> How do I enable universe repo?
[11:34] <Warbo> gnomefreak: yes
[11:34] <Warbo> gnomefreak: winecfg works though, which is weird
[11:34] <sn00p> How do I fix this in ubuntu , ./configure checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
[11:35] <gnomefreak> regionalp: take the # away from all the repos that are deb http://   put a # infront of the deb cdrom ones
[11:35] <galorin> now I just need to get my wifi working.. back to google
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Warbo: can you name the -dev packages you installed for the libnurces?
[11:35] <Warbo> sn00p: Maybe add "--arch=i386" to the configure line (or something similar, try "./configure --help")
[11:35] <jackson> how do I set up a network between two linux computers connected to the same WiFi?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Warbo: libncurses5-dev?
[11:36] <Warbo> gnomefreak: libncurses5-dev and libncursesw5-dev
[11:36] <regionalp> gnomefreak: are you talking about editing a text file? Which text file?
[11:36] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Hang on, got to sort something out. Be back in a minute
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Warbo: did they pull in the non -dev packages?
[11:36] <sn00p> Warbo it says unrecognized option
[11:36] <gnomefreak> regionalp: the /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I checked and found that Wine is installed but I cannot find it in the drop down menus.. any suggestions
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: you wont
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: to run it you type wine file.exe
[11:37] <jackson> Jack_Sparrow: you have to use the terminal for wine
[11:37] <bijan> how can I make the xmodmap stuff permanent?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Jack_Sparrow: and it should install/load that app
[11:37] <bijan> right now I have to enter it every login
[11:37] <garryF> and there is winecfg if I got the spelling right
[11:37] <gnomefreak> !wine
[11:37] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:37] <gnomefreak> garryF: it will tell you all good things there
[11:38] <garryF> gnomefreak :)
[11:38] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks gnomefreak
[11:38] <gnomefreak> wy
[11:38] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:38] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:40] <jackson> how do I set up a network between two linux computers connected to the same WiFi?
[11:40] <garryF> !networking
[11:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[11:40] <mario_> hey i need some quick help here
[11:40] <systest> Is there a config file to set static routes on boot/ifup?
[11:40] <Ackeubu_> I have a 4in1 card reader on my notebook. where can i find info on how to install it?
[11:40] <whizz-> Flannel: (or anybody else) i don't know if this helps, but here is a screenshot of the message i get when running update-manager: http://flypicture.com/bin/?id=r93xk67Y
[11:41] <mario_> i just installed the server edition of ubuntu but it never asked me to set up a root password
[11:41] <mario_> how can i change that
[11:41] <Ackeubu_> And how can i find what model my 4in1 card reader is?
[11:41] <mikere> jackson: it really dependson what you want to do with them.  If they are using dhcp they are probably on the same subnet
[11:41] <Flannel> mario_: ubuntu doesn't use a root password
[11:41] <bijan> how can I make my XModmap mousebuttonmapping permanent?
[11:41] <Flannel> !tell mario_ about root
[11:41] <Flannel> mario_: that page will describe everything you need to know
[11:41] <regionalp> gnomefreak: I found the file I need to edit.  Which is the most straightforward text editor?
[11:41] <garryF> !wireless > jackson
[11:41] <regionalp> I'm from a commandline presently
[11:41] <jackson> mikere: is there some kind of tool I can use to do that? I'm not really experienced with networks and I need it up kinda fast so I don't have much time to learn about them
[11:42] <klees> Is there an up to date XGL/Compiz for ATI install guide???
[11:42] <loststar4545> gedit is a good text editor
[11:42] <mikere> jackson: are they already on the WiFi?
[11:42] <bijan> how can I make my XModmap mousebuttonmapping permanent?
[11:42] <jackson> mikere: yep
[11:42] <gnomefreak> regionalp: gedit
[11:42] <mikere> jackson: do you just want to copy files from one to the other?
[11:42] <jackson> mikere: yeah
[11:43] <gnomefreak> regionalp: if you type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" it will pull it up for you to edit
[11:43] <Chetic> Help! TVTime gives me this message when I try to start it: "xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images."
[11:43] <mikere> jackson: one sec, I don't have any gui tools installed on this comp but will find one fast.
[11:43] <regionalp> ty
[11:44] <loststar4545> nano is a console text editor
[11:44] <jackson> mikere: thanks. if there's a bash tool that is relatively easy to use I could use that one as well
[11:44] <Flannel> whizz-: well, here's instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  If you can't get the graphical part to work (that page talks about a few things that might not be up to date, for you to be able to automatically install via GUI), that page also goes over the manual method
[11:45] <mikere> jackson: scp for a command line tool
[11:45] <genaus> !opera
[11:45] <ubotu> An advanced and free (only as in price) Web browser. Howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser - Latest Ubuntu packages always at: http://opera.com/download
[11:45] <klees> is there a way for me to change the font color on the desktop?
[11:45] <mikere> gftp for a gui app (many others as well, but this was first one that i came across)
[11:46] <PORDO> broccoli and cauliflower are the "same" plant...same species.
[11:46] <bijan> how can I make my XModmap mousebuttonmapping permanent?
[11:46] <PORDO> you shouldn't use xmodmap, for one.
[11:46] <klees> anyone???
[11:47] <PORDO> it's now xkb or something that ubuntu uses.
[11:47] <PORDO> bijan one sec...i wrote something about doing stuff like that on some forum.  lemme find it.
[11:47] <joJammin> what does this mean in reiserfs? and how can it be fixed?  - leaves all contents of which could not be saved and deleted 3
[11:47] <Tonren> Hey guys, which package should I download so that Nautilus will display Japanese characters?
[11:47] <yallaman> what is the -option to see FPS when doing glxgears?
[11:47] <RichiH> what options do i have for gps-based navigation? is someone using a bluetooth GPS device and has experience with this?
[11:47] <klees> glxgears -printfps
[11:48] <PORDO> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90040
[11:48] <PORDO> bijan  read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90040 <-- for a start.  surely the mouse mapping is part of that file somehow.
[11:48] <RawSewage> can I ask a Kubuntu question.  No one there can answer
[11:48] <Lynoure> RawSewage: yes, but there is also #kubuntu
[11:48] <spikeb> sure
[11:48] <adaran> i just installed the scilab package and was very suprised that some arabic script is the default font. anyone know a fix?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Warbo: sure
[11:48] <RawSewage> Lynoure, they dont know there
[11:49] <RawSewage> I want to restore the default KDE settings
[11:49] <Lynoure> RawSewage: hmm, missed your question there.
[11:49] <RawSewage> do you see it
[11:49] <garryF> yallaman: So is dri working now?
[11:49] <Lynoure> RawSewage: Just reconfigure kde, I think
[11:50] <Tonren> Hey guys, which package should I download so that Nautilus will display Japanese characters?
[11:50] <jajaja-> i am getting error 3 and 12 when i run dmesg in ivtv
[11:50] <morbidi> hello
[11:50] <klees> does anyone know how can i change the font color on the desktop?????
[11:50] <PORDO> did they un-uglify kde lately?
[11:50] <RawSewage> I did:    sudo rm -r /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror
[11:50] <RawSewage> followed by:    sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[11:50] <morbidi> what libs do I have to install to devel opengl ?
[11:50] <RawSewage> but nothing changed
[11:50] <RawSewage> I even restarted the computer after
[11:51] <RawSewage> KDE ugly??
[11:51] <RawSewage> youre crazy
[11:51] <PORDO> hrm
[11:51] <celso> ola
[11:51] <PORDO> every time i've used it, it has these weird, old-looking windows-esque borders and stuff.
[11:51] <regionalp> gnomefreak:  When I Try to edit the file, it says it is write only.
[11:51] <PORDO> no matter what theme i try, it's just horrid.  horrid.
[11:51] <regionalp> gnomefreak:  When I Try to edit the file, it says it is read only.
[11:51] <PORDO> gnome at least allows you to make it look really modern and slick.
[11:51] <mikere> Fonts sure seem better since I upgraded to dapper
[11:51] <Lynoure> RawSewage: that's not quite what I meant. you said kde not konqueror. dpkg--reconfigure kde    might work, but you'd lose all your setting in kde, each and every
[11:51] <PORDO> like a mac.
[11:51] <klees> can anyone see what i write???
[11:52] <thespore> nope
[11:52] <PORDO> mikere really?!  weird.
[11:52] <klees> thought so
[11:52] <garryF> nope
[11:52] <PORDO> klees yup.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> regionalp: use gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"  <<< type that with the word use
[11:52] <LiteHedded> i'm having a weird samba issue. one of my directories doesn't respond when i click on it in my windows box
[11:52] <klees> does anyone know how can i change the font color on the desktop?????
[11:52] <mikere> PORDO: yah, strange bug, but I think can live with it
[11:52] <morbidi> what libs do I have to install to devel opengl in c++ ?
[11:52] <RawSewage> Lynoure, I just followed the FAQ at the site
[11:52] <garryF> Nothing found except maybe try different themes klees
[11:52] <PORDO> morbidi i dunno man, but that really sounds like something google could answer. :/
[11:52] <RawSewage> Lynoure, but it doesnt work
[11:53] <morbidi> PORDO: I wish
[11:53] <klees> =(
[11:53] <PORDO> morbidi have you done a search for packages containing the word opengl?
[11:53] <morbidi> yep
[11:53] <Lynoure> RawSewage: I don't know what FAQ you mean... Do you mean you did that command already?
[11:53] <regionalp> gnomefreak: -bash: use: command not found
[11:53] <PORDO> sudo apt-cache search opengl | grep dev
[11:53] <bhamgray> Greets
[11:53] <gnomefreak> regionalp: without the word use
[11:53] <gnomefreak> regionalp: type the following line
[11:53] <RawSewage> Lynoure, http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[11:54] <gnomefreak> regionalp: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:54] <regionalp> k, ty
[11:54] <regionalp> gnomefreak: "warning, cannot open display
[11:54] <gnomefreak> regionalp: it will open
[11:55] <blue_> hello
[11:55] <gnomefreak> gnu2it2: when it does we will go through it
[11:55] <regionalp> I Was using vi and trying to edit it, but it wouldn't let me edit it because it was read only even when I put an ! after the write and quit command
[11:55] <Lynoure> RawSewage: I'm confused now, you just want to restore konqueror settings?
[11:55] <Raito> So I got qtparted, but the "resize partition" option of my windows partition is greyed out. I want to take space from a windows ntfs partition and put it on ubuntu what do I do?
[11:55] <RawSewage> Lynoure, Kubuntu removes several Konqueror features to make it simpler and user-friendly for the average user
[11:55] <RawSewage> Lynoure, I want to restore those features
[11:56] <mario_> also what is the command to change the ssh port in console mode
[11:56] <garryF> Using linux to resize an ntfs partition is likely unsafe.
[11:56] <blue_> ya I agree
[11:56] <Lynoure> RawSewage: Ah. Cannot help you there. Never done that and I don't even know which those features are
[11:56] <blue_> back up and reinstall win to your needs
[11:57] <mikere> mario_: if you wish to change the port that an ssh server is listening on, you have to change it's conf file
[11:57] <garryF> yallaman So hoe is it working now?
[11:57] <Jerr> hey, I want to have it so that the ubuntu box (does not have display) has a different resolution than 640x480 or whatever it is now when I connect with VNC. In the resolution howto thing (by !resolution), it talks about screens and refresh rate, but all I want is for it to send over a display over VNC
[11:57] <BIAF> hi, anyone help me with send mail issue in webmin, getting error : Failed to build configuration, NONE:0: m4: ERROR: EOF in string
[11:57] <mikere> mario_: and then restart the server
[11:57] <RawSewage> Lynoure, one of the features is allow you to automatically save configuration for each folder, for exampe, Image folder is Icon view, document folder is treeview, etc
[11:57] <klees> what packages do i need to compile source??
[11:58] <avis`> klees, build-essential
[11:58] <regionalp> gnomefreak: you seem like a nice enough guy.. could I just give you root and perhaps you could install it? ; )
[11:58] <klees> thx
[11:58] <gnomefreak> regionalp: no ty
[11:58] <regionalp> heh
[11:58] <regionalp> k
[11:59] <Dial_tone> everybody is a nice on the net until you steal their cyber gf
[11:59] <Lynoure> RawSewage: Still, cannot help you right now, without looking things up myself and it's 1:00 my time here --> husband telling me that it is sleep time. But it very well might be that #kubuntu just missed what you wanted. And failing that, you could also ask the people who wrote the FAQ
[11:59] <BaKKaR> oftopic
[11:59] <BaKKaR> offtopic
[11:59] <ToHellWithGA> hey there.  my apache installation seems to be working, however i can't figure out how to get a directory to allow browsing
[11:59] <patrick_king> hello how do i test 3d acceleration in ubuntu dapper
[11:59] <BaKKaR> ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <Knome> #apache


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[12:41] <DWSR> Hey all, I'm having an issue with my Lubuntu minimal install. I can't get network-manager to start on startup.
[12:41] <DWSR> I've already edited /etc/network/interfaces to only include lo
[16:18] <Juan_> Hola
[17:47] <Mekanaizer> Hello
[19:36] <Mekanaizer> A euestion not related to Lubuntu. Is there a linux distro that is useble and very very light?
[19:38] <wxl> Mekanaizer: yep. lubuntu.
[19:41] <Mekanaizer> Sure, but on a 233mmx 64mb machine it is low
[19:42] <wxl> Mekanaizer: and that's going to be super low to do much of anything, including surf the modern internet.
[19:42] <wxl> Mekanaizer: well, at least nothing graphical.
[19:46] <wxl> Mekanaizer: if you really want a very base system, you could install ubuntu core and build from there.
[19:47] <wxl> !minimal | Mekanaizer
[20:17] <Mekanaizer> ok will try
[20:51] <utu8o> Mekanaizer, maybe try SliTaz
[20:52] <utu8o> i think it uses LXDE desktop also


[18:13] <kaipreshaw> hey guys can some one help me with this
[18:13] <kaipreshaw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/822841/
[23:41] <andru> hello to all, I come bearing news!
[23:41] <andru> I got a place for the Limerick UGJ, just need a date now
[23:43] <andru> any word on a date for anywhere else??


[10:04] <Iolo> Hiya, I have a bit of a problem with getting an old DOS machine (yes, really) to download files via SCP from an Ubuntu 20.04 server.
[10:04] <Iolo> The basic idea is that the DOS machine needs to connect via SCP and download all the files that are in a certain directory.
[10:04] <Iolo> The client does connect, but it only downloads *one* file before disconnecting.
[10:05] <Iolo> The crazy thing is that this works fine when the server is a RHEL 7 server with OpenSSH 7.4, but I'm trying to migrate this over to an Ubuntu 20.04 server with OpenSSH 8.2.
[10:05] <Iolo> Without touching any of the client's settings, I can use a domain alias to choose which server the client is connecting to. So IOW the behavior is different with the same client settings.
[10:06] <Iolo> Because of that I'm pretty convinced there's a problem on the server side. I just can't figure out what that problem is.
[10:06] <Iolo> The sshd configuration on both servers is practically identical, with the exception of re-enabling some older algos on the newer server.
[10:06] <Iolo> Setting LogLevel to debug3 didn't yield anything useful either. What should I look into next?
[11:23] <rbasak> Iolo: perhaps try Ubuntu 16.04 to try to identify if the difference is a result of the OpenSSH version, or of the distro?
[11:24] <rbasak> Versions:
[11:24] <rbasak>  openssh | 1:7.2p2-4           | xenial          | source
[11:24] <rbasak>  openssh | 1:7.6p1-4           | bionic          | source
[11:25] <rbasak> There was quite a bit of churn in OpenSSH upstream behaviour relating to scp, to do with deprecation of the scp protocol and the move to the scp command using sftp instead. I don't see a specific issue across the versions you're looking at, though it's probably worth looking deeper for one.
[12:50] <Iolo> rbasak, that's a good tip, thanks. I'll try that next.


[03:39] <nitish> can I make terminal transparent in gnome-shell 3.10.4?
[12:49] <Forage> good afternoon
[12:51] <Forage> the live cd nightly builds of at least November 17 until now suffer from being unable to login. It shows a broken login screen instead of booting into GNOME Shell right away. Supplying the username "ubuntu" with no password does not allow me to login. Is there any other way?
[14:31] <LinDol> hi all
[17:08] <mitch> Hi all - I just recently installed Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 on my Dell XPS 8700 with 4th Gen i7 and Nvidia GTX 645. I seem to be having quite a few issues, so far the list includes I am unable to open system settings, either through command line by running gnome-control-center (it just hangs and does nothing) nor by going to the normal system menu's. Also, I am unable to restart my PC by command line or by GUI.  When i enter init 6 as
[17:08] <mitch> root it tries toreboot the PC but never actually reboots.  Goes to a black screen and does nothing until I hard shut it down.
[17:09] <mitch> I get several errors when I try opening system settings through command line:
[17:09] <mitch> mitch@mitch-XPS-8700:~$ sudo gnome-control-center
[17:09] <mitch> [sudo] password for mitch:
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher gufw (missing desktop file)
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher landscape-client-settings (missing desktop file)
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher language-selector (missing desktop file)
[17:09] <mitch> ** (gnome-control-center.real:2416): WARNING **: Ignoring launcher ubuntuone-installer (missing desktop file)
[17:11] <mitch> I opened a thread on ubuntuforums over 24 hours ago but no one has replied yet so thought I'd try on here for some help/tips.
[17:15] <cap0> mitch: those aren't serious. Just missing desktop files. it's probably just ignoring things that can be optionally installed
[17:18] <mitch> Ok, how do I get it to open System Settings then? Also, any tips on trying to troubleshoot the issue of not being able to reboot?
[17:23] <cap0> can you open gnome-control-center without sudo?
[17:23] <mitch> Nope, it just does this:
[17:23] <cap0> as for the shutdown issue, I'm afraid I can't be off any assistance
[17:24] <mitch> mitch@mitch-XPS-8700:~$ gnome-control-center
[17:24] <mitch> Failed to register: Timeout was reached
[21:23] <hans109h> I'm trying to find more information on gnome-system-log, specifically why some logs are expandable and some are not, however the documentation is very lacking.
[21:25] <darkxst> hans109h, you should be using gnome-logs these days
[21:25] <darkxst> gnome-system-log is old, and likely doesnt support journal
[21:26] <hans109h> darkxst, thanks for that.  I had never heard of gnome-logs.  I wonder why it didn't install with Ubuntu
[21:27] <hans109h> Wow. Much nicer already!
[21:30] <darkxst> hans109h, apparently I forget to ever seed it
[21:31] <hans109h> Actually, now that I'm looking it it, gnome-logs is only for journal, so I'm right back where I started.  When I said expanded I meant that for certain logs gnome-system-log will let you look at certain days and I think it is based on log rotation.
[21:32] <darkxst> hans109h, the journal contains everything, however by default its not persistant, so only has current boot
[21:33] <darkxst> hans109h, see /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz
[21:34] <hans109h> right, What I was trying to do was to view an apache access log by day.
[21:36] <darkxst> maybe apache doesnt use rsyslog
[21:38] <hans109h> I can't remember.
[21:49] <darkxst> mitch try run `gnome-control-center -v` that should provide more info
[21:49] <hans109h> looks like I'll have to explore mod_journald
[21:50] <darkxst> mitch, there is a known issue with logout currently affecting some users, not sure if that affects reboots also
[21:51] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758112
[21:52] <darkxst> except that shouldnt effect 15.10
[22:55] <mitch> darkxst I tried gnome-control-center -v just now and it does the exact same thing as when I tried it without -v flag.
[22:55] <mitch> mitch@mitch-XPS-8700:~$ gnome-control-center -v
[22:55] <mitch> Failed to register: Timeout was reached


 phix:  I always liked:   "sudo rm -rf *.* "
[00:55] <Gary> @btlogin
[01:00] <genii> I'm tempted to !danger
[01:01] <genii> nvm read wrongly that it wasn't an itinerant user
[01:40] <bazhang> fryguy> RequinB4: get a faster pc
[01:40] <bazhang> still?
[01:40] <bazhang> had a talk with him via PM (nearly an hour) about this kind of help
[02:30] <genii> @btlogin
[02:33] <elkbuntu> bazhang, he falls into the category of 'People who cannot learn common decency to save themselves'
[02:34] <genii> When I go /away someone keep an eye on antiroach  in #k    he's doing the:  rm -rf *      thing
[02:34] <bazhang> elkbuntu, something along the line of wols ?
[02:34] <elkbuntu> yeah, but wols actually knows what he's talking about.
[02:34] <bazhang> true
[02:35] <elkbuntu> wols knows what he's talking about, but he just does it in a way that makes me want to utilise a 2x4 as a cluebat, where clue = people skills.
[02:38] <Pici> Does that mean we can or cannot hit him with a bat?
[02:38] <bazhang> his EQ could use some work indeed
[02:39] <genii> I'm all for the bat
[02:39] <bazhang> work /away ; if necrosan wonders why he was banned, please tell him #ubuntu is not channel cheesecake
[02:39] <bazhang> oh nice pm from him
[02:41] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/88928/
[02:43] <pronto> hey, how do you get spiff optical sound working
[02:44] <pronto> SPDIF
[02:45] <nalioth> andrew__: pronto: can we help yoU?
[02:45] <pronto> ?
[02:45] <pronto> yeah
[02:45] <pronto> hopefully
[02:45] <pronto> fyi: the #ubuntu channel is forwarded here
[02:46] <nalioth> no, it's not.
[02:46] <pronto>  * #ubuntu #ubuntu-ops :Forwarding to another channel
[02:46] <nalioth> pronto: _you_ are being forwarded
[02:46] <pronto> ok, thats not my problem
[02:47] <pronto> my problem is about sound, with spdif
[02:47] <nalioth> pronto: would you know why?
[02:47] <pronto> no idea
[02:47] <nalioth> this is not a support channel
[02:47] <pronto> well i treid to join #ubuntu
[02:47] <pronto> but i come here
[02:47] <nalioth> and now we're trying to figure out why
[02:51] <pronto> hello?
[02:53] <genii> It was jrib
[02:54] <jrib> i usually forward here when people do something bad and then leave before we can tell you not to do it
[02:54] <pronto> i didnt do anything :\
[02:54] <pronto> i just need help with sound
[02:54] <jrib> @bansearch pronto
[02:55] <pronto> my ip, but not me
[02:55] <jrib> 2008-12-04T18:38:42 <pronto> meh fuck this place, ubuntu is a pos
[02:55] <pronto> my brother is an asshole though
[02:55] <jrib> not you?
[02:55] <jrib> "not you?" referring to what I pasted
[02:56] <elkbuntu> wow, it's amazing how every single person who gets caught out has a brother.
[02:56] <pronto> i just need help with sound :\
[02:57] <jrib> pronto: do you admit to saying what I pasted?
[02:57] <pronto> no
[02:57] <jrib> suit yourself
[02:57] <nalioth> andrew__: can we help you?
[02:57] <jrib> pronto: you are responsible for what happens on your ip
[02:57] <pronto> i apploogize for my brother, but i just need helpwith sound
[02:58] <jrib> and it's kind of strange that your brother uses the same nick as you
[02:58] <pronto> not really
[02:58] <pronto> he uses my computer from tiem totime
[02:58] <jrib> pronto: you probably want to choose your own nick so you don't get confused with your brother
[02:58] <elkbuntu> your brother also seems smarter than you
[02:59] <pronto> this is not the point, i just need help with a sound issue
[02:59] <jrib> pronto: you can't get help as long as your banned, so it is the point
[02:59] <jrib> you're
[02:59] <pronto> then can you unban me please
[02:59] <pronto> im part of a ubuntu loco team :|
[02:59] <elkbuntu> not until we're sure that this will never happen again.
[02:59] <elkbuntu> is your brother also a part?
[02:59] <elkbuntu> which team?
[03:00] <pronto> maryland
[03:00] <elkbuntu> i shall go ask them for a character reference
[03:00] <elkbuntu> for you and your brother.
[03:00] <pronto> i havent been with them since summer
[03:00] <jrib> while you wait, please read what ubottu is about to send you
[03:00] <jrib> !etiquette > pronto
[03:00] <jrib> !guidelines > pronto
[03:00] <elkbuntu> pronto, so you're not part then, and you lied?
[03:00] <pronto> what?
[03:00] <pronto> i never set that part up
[03:00] <pronto> :|
[03:00] <pronto> i went to the meating
[03:01] <pronto> chuck frain
[03:01] <pronto> craig younkins
[03:02] <elkbuntu> pronto, basically we need to be sure that you will behave, and will not let your brother use your accounts anymore. if we have to ban you both to keep him out - we will.
[03:02] <pronto> i will
[03:02] <elkbuntu> you will what?
[03:02] <pronto> i keep my comp with a password now
[03:02] <pronto> behave
[03:02] <elkbuntu> right, and have you read the guidelines?
[03:02] <pronto> before i just let it open when i was gone
[03:02] <pronto> yeah
[03:03] <jrib> pronto: do you agree to abide by them?
[03:03] <pronto> yes i do
[03:03] <elkbuntu> jrib, let him back in on probation.
[03:04] <jrib> elkbuntu: agreed
[03:04] <jrib> pronto: you may rejoin #ubuntu again, but keep in mind what we discussed here
[03:06] <elkbuntu> ungrateful poop
[03:07] <elkbuntu> he didnt even ask the question in #ubuntu, he just wanted to get back in
[03:07] <elkbuntu> and they wonder why we dont trust them
[03:07] <genii> Heh
[03:07] <genii> "my brother did it" ... riiiiiiggghht
[03:08] <nalioth> andrew__: can we help you?
[03:08] <Pici> Guess not.
[03:53] <Panarchy> hi
[03:53] <Panarchy> Can someone please unban me from #ubuntu
[03:53] <Panarchy> Thanks in advance (was blocked for 24 hours 48 hours ago)
[04:02]  * genii prods jrib
[04:05] <Panarchy> lol
[04:06] <Panarchy> Looks like I
[04:06] <Panarchy> m
[04:06] <Panarchy> Still banned
[04:06] <Panarchy> Some help please
[04:06] <genii> Panarchy: The op which banned you must unban you. In this case jrib
[04:07] <Panarchy> I sent jrib a PM
[04:07] <Panarchy> but he seems to be away
[04:08] <genii> Panarchy: I would suggest to return later then to contact him, as idling in here doesn't help your cause
[04:11] <jrib> Panarchy: why were you banned?
[04:14] <Panarchy> jrib: You banned me
[04:14] <Panarchy> For having multi-line questions
[04:14] <jrib> Panarchy: I know I banned you.  I'm asking you if you know why you were banned
[04:14] <Panarchy> Yes, I do
[04:14] <Panarchy> It was for having multi-line questions
[04:15] <jrib> Panarchy: yes, do you understand that you should keep your questions/responses on a single line and not use Enter to break up your thought?
[04:15] <jrib> s
[04:15] <Panarchy> lol
[04:15] <Panarchy> (sorry, irony)
[04:15] <Panarchy> Yes, I do
[04:16] <jrib> now we have a good question.  How do tell floodbot to let Panarchy in? :)
[04:17] <Panarchy> lol
[04:17] <Panarchy> Well hopefully it is figured out and I can come back to the channel
[04:17] <jrib> Panarchy: you're still replying with multiple lines :/
[04:18] <Panarchy> :P:, sorry
[04:18] <jrib> Panarchy: try now.  I ran the command, but got no feedback from the bot.  Come back here if you still can't get in
[04:20] <Panarchy> 15:20	orwell.freenode.net	470: | [0] Panarchy, [1] #ubuntu, [2] #ubuntu-proxy-users, [3] Forwarding to another channel
[04:20] <Panarchy> Nup, still isn't working
[04:20] <Panarchy> I'll logout then log back in
[04:20]  * genii thinks about mibbit
[04:21] <Pici> Panarchy: try once more
[04:21] <Panarchy> Okay, well that didn't seem to work...
[04:21] <Pici> Please
[04:21] <jrib> thanks Pici
[04:21] <Panarchy> This command? /join #ubuntu
[04:22] <Pici> Panarchy: No, part proxy-users and then try
[04:22] <Panarchy> Okay
[04:22] <Panarchy> Ah finally
[04:22] <Panarchy> Thanks
[04:22] <jrib> ...
[04:23] <Pici> Also. LtL looks alot like LjL
[04:23] <jrib> lil
[04:23] <jrib> l_jL
[04:23] <genii> jrib: He seems to just not know how to NOT type things on a single line.....
[05:36]  * genii sips
[05:38] <genii> Turing test ... FAIL
[05:38] <genii> Sorry, just getting tired.
[06:40] <genii> Well, bedtime.
[06:45] <hischild> obscure names such as countrysheepfucker aren't allowed, are the shorter versions (like the one in #ubuntu atm) allowed?
[07:08] <maco> was the user sw33ty_9iR7 mentioned in here to any of you?
[07:12] <hischild> maco, not that i've seen, but you'll have to call !ops to get their attention. They seem to be afk.
[07:24] <maco> this internet connection is crappy
[07:26] <maco> anyway, there's a user, sw33ty_9iR7, that PM'd me without prior initiation of contact from #ubuntu
[07:27] <maco> i was about to sign off, so i dont know what she wanted, except, it seemed, to pound the keyboard at me
[07:27] <maco> she said "hyyyyyyy" and "9bunkkkkkkkkkk"
[07:29] <nixternal> that's fulatin
[07:30] <maco> that's what?
[07:32] <nixternal> I have no idea, jusst made it up
[07:32] <Gary> nixternal: lol
[07:33] <hischild> hmm yeah i'll agree with you nixternal, it has to be fulatin
[07:33] <maco> ...
[09:28] <bazhang> odog777, how may we help you
[09:34] <odog777> bazhang is his a help room?
[09:35] <odog777> is this a help room
[09:36] <bazhang> odog777, no, that would be in #ubuntu or #kubuntu , depending on if you are using gnome or kde
[09:36] <topyli> for values of "help" :)
[09:36] <odog777> This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only
[09:36] <bazhang> odog777, if you are looking for support, this is for items spelled out in the topic, please dont idle here
[09:37] <odog777> nope I was just looking for conversation....i'll find another room
[09:37] <topyli> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:37] <bazhang> odog777, that is #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:37] <bazhang> argh
[09:49] <hischild> heh ...
[09:49] <hischild> hey did any of you see my previous question?
[09:57] <Gary> hischild: what nick were you refering to?
[09:58] <hischild> if i remember correctly, it was spelled cntrysheepfacker
[09:59] <hischild> Gary, he's no longer in the channel, but the general question remains.
[11:38]  * jussi01 pokes, prods and tickles ikonia
[11:38] <jussi01> hischild: anything else you need?
[12:30] <hischild> jussi01, i was kind of waiting for the answer.
[12:33] <hischild> jussi01, I guess the general question would be, where is the line concerning names drawn?
[12:40] <jussi01> hischild: its fairly simple, if you see something that concerns you, drop in here and let us know thats what we are here for ;)
[12:41] <elkbuntu> hischild, if you see a problem with it, you'll not be the only one.
[12:41] <elkbuntu> that's a guarantee.
[12:41] <hischild> elkbuntu, i guess that's true .. jussi01, will do that
[12:41] <elkbuntu> you might be the only one willing to say something though
[12:41] <hischild> i do tend to say quite a few things, yes ..
[12:42] <hischild> Aight, i'll do that then. Tnx
[12:42] <Gary> hischild: sorry for not responding, I fell asleep
[12:43] <hischild> Gary, you probably deserve it then :-) sleep tight!
[12:43] <hischild> Well since that was the only question i had, i'll be going back to my duties. See you all around
[12:44]  * hischild waves you all a happy morning, afternoon, evening or goodnight (make a choice) and the best of luck!
[14:03]  * jussi01 pokes PriceChild and nalioth - either of you got a moment for a PM?
[15:06] <nalioth> jussi01: of course
[17:07] <PriceChild> catching up on emails at work after a weekend is nothing compared to hilights here :(
[18:02] <TwinReverb> anyone around?
[18:02] <bazhang> TwinReverb, how may we help you
[18:02] <TwinReverb> i am out trying to drum up people for my channel.  not everyone pays attention to wallops, and advertising / growing a channel is rather hard
[18:03] <TwinReverb> is there any way anyone might be able to help me out in that regard?
[18:03] <TwinReverb> or at least some advice?
[18:03] <bazhang> TwinReverb, TwinReverb please check the topic here; I'm not sure, though you might ask in #freenode about what you are attempting
[18:30] <nalioth> hmm
[18:30] <nalioth> hmmm hmmm
[18:31] <Gary> hmm's too
[18:40]  * nalioth pets his 10-minute-quiet button
[18:40] <nalioth> troll attention spans are far less than 10 minutes
[20:17]  * jussi01 pokes and prods bluesmoke - identify! ;)
[20:36] <PriceChild> bluesmoke: Can we help you?
[20:40] <bluesmoke> PriceChild: Not this again
[20:41] <PriceChild> Amaranth: thanks, hi :)
[20:41] <PriceChild> bluesmoke: why don't you group the accounts?
[20:41] <PriceChild> bluesmoke: /msg nickserv help group
[20:41] <bluesmoke> PriceChild: I don't want it to show me being on as Amaranth while I'm bluesmoke
[21:22] <A4Tech> hi
[21:23] <PriceChild> Hi A4Tech, how can I help?
[21:23] <A4Tech> yes
[21:24] <A4Tech> I urgently need to write a script on the bash and how I somehow ban on #bash
[21:24] <A4Tech> oO
[21:25] <PriceChild> A4Tech: This is the home of the ubuntu irc team.
[21:25] <PriceChild> A4Tech: /msg chanserv access #bash list
[21:25] <PriceChild> A4Tech: hopefully you can find someone there to help you with the ban
[21:25] <A4Tech> thx
[21:30] <jussi01> !idle | A4Tech
[21:32] <A4Tech>  exit?
[23:31]  * genii wanders in and makes a pot of coffee


[13:16] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:18] <rick_h> morning
[13:20] <jrwren> Good morning.
[13:47] <cmaloney> How's the weather?
[13:53] <jrwren> !w
[13:53] <jrwren> oh, no bot here :)
[14:09] <cmaloney> heh
[14:10] <rick_h> hah
[16:14] <notlikethesoup> morning
[16:14] <notlikethesoup> erm, afternoon
[16:25] <greg-g> morning here :)
[16:28] <cmaloney> Aftermorning
[16:28] <greg-g> :)
[19:29] <cmaloney> "Everybody should join who has knowledge about those programs and is willing to improve their life especially their income let's help
[19:29] <cmaloney> +each other for better future and better life money is there waiting for us to get it ,"
[19:30] <cmaloney> Guess the title of the group that used this as their tagline
[19:46] <rick_h> what group is this?
[20:01] <notlikethesoup> is it apple
[20:20] <cmaloney> nooope.
[20:21] <cmaloney> It's the Ann Arbor Web Design Meetup


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[00:36] <Saj0577> hey guys/girls anyone around got few questions :)
[00:37] <LaserJock> Saj0577: shoot
[00:38] <Saj0577> just looking at the website (as well as the xubuntu) and noticed the content is not exactly upto date and just wondering who responsible for keeping it up to date really is it the commmuinity or canonical
[00:39] <LaserJock> the community
[00:39] <LaserJock> and yeah, there is some out-datedness for sure
[00:39] <Saj0577> yeah seems the ubuntu one is the only one thats kept upto date which is a bit poor
[00:40] <LaserJock> well, they have a full time webmaster
[00:40] <LaserJock> and a number of marketing people
[00:40] <Saj0577> is it because people forgot or there just simply is not the people to do it do you know?
[00:41] <Saj0577> only seems to be the blog/news thats kept upto date on the variants
[00:54] <Lns> Saj0577: take a look at the edubuntu-users list and you'll find some discussion regarding the website updates
[01:02] <Saj0577> Lns: okay il take a look now. cheers.
[01:03] <LaserJock> Saj0577: it's quite a bit of work to keep everything going
[01:03] <LaserJock> Saj0577: and since we're all volunteers with limited time it's often a matter of "getting around to it"
[01:04] <LaserJock> we're also not professional website maintainers for the most part
[01:04] <LaserJock> so not a lot of hands, not a lot of time, lots to do, and a lot of other things that need doing
[01:05] <Saj0577> LaserJock: well if thats the case do you guys need a hand? I would not have a great deal of time to provide to edubuntu as a whole but i could certainly keep the website upto date in some spare time i coudl find.
[01:25] <LaserJock> Saj0577: that's certainly something that could be discussed. I'd email the edubuntu-devel lists with your thoughts
[01:26] <Saj0577> LaserJock: cheers. is it a open ML i.e so i dont have to wait to be authorised
[01:27] <LaserJock> Saj0577: as long as you subscribe to the list first you can post freely
[01:27] <Saj0577> oright cool cheers.
[01:27] <LaserJock> everybody is more than welcome to participate on edubuntu-devel
[02:43] <LaserJock> sbalneav: ping
[03:36] <jbicha> LaserJock: good evening
[03:41] <LaserJock> jbicha: hi
[03:42] <jbicha> LaserJock: I'm a bit worried that we'll know how to do what you do as you're leaving to focus on other things
[03:42] <LaserJock> well
[03:42] <LaserJock> I don't plan on never returning email
[03:43] <jbicha> I can go ahead and ask in #ubuntu-devel if anyone's willing to sponsor my moodle pre-depends patch, right?
[03:43] <LaserJock> I'm going to hopefully spend this weekend with sbalneav and stgraber at a conference
[03:43] <LaserJock> jbicha: I think it's too late for Karmic
[03:44] <LaserJock> jbicha: but for sure it would be good to look at that first thing for Lucid
[03:44] <LaserJock> jbicha: I'm concerned that there might be something deeper going on
[03:44] <LaserJock> for instance, we're moving it from Recommends to Pre-depends
[03:45] <jbicha> ScottK said yesterday (today your time) that bug fixes don't need feature freeze exception up until ~Sunday
[03:45] <LaserJock> now Recommends should mean that it (the DB servers you've moved) shouldn't be necessary to run
[03:46] <jbicha> my patch seems pretty simple to me
[03:46] <LaserJock> obviously we have a situation where moodle won't even *install* without them, which makes me wonder what has gone on
[03:46] <LaserJock> the patch itself is simple
[03:46] <LaserJock> but this late in the game I'm very hesitant to upload something that invasive
[03:47] <LaserJock> I tried to ask the release manager before, I'll try again now
[03:47] <jbicha> ok, thanks
[03:48] <LaserJock> but we kind of have some bigger issues too right now
[03:48] <LaserJock> I have yet to have a successful install of what is supposed to be our Release Candidate
[03:48] <jbicha> really? it works for me
[03:48] <LaserJock> kinda
[03:49] <LaserJock> there are all these language packs
[03:49] <LaserJock> and packages are not getting removed as they are supposed to
[03:49] <LaserJock> *and* the LTSP install I just did is completely borked
[03:49] <LaserJock> it won't even start GDM
[03:50] <jbicha> my Acer Aspire One won't really start GDM off the Ubuntu live CD...but it actually runs the installed Karmic fine
[03:55] <jbicha> I thought the lang pack issue was partly the ubuntu-edu-primary and -preschool's fault recommending the gcompris languages
[03:55] <jbicha> where do you even fix the DVD issues?
[03:58] <LaserJock> jbicha: !!
[03:59] <LaserJock> jbicha: you're absolutely right
[03:59] <LaserJock> darn it darn it darn it
[03:59] <LaserJock> how am I going to fix this?
[03:59] <LaserJock> hmmm
[04:00] <LaserJock> I didn't read all the way to the end of your bug report, sorry
[04:01] <jbicha> sorry I didn't emphasize it more; I usually skim-read myself too
[04:01] <LaserJock> so the options are
[04:02] <LaserJock> 1) revert the change of adding the lang packs to the gcompris-sound-*
[04:02] <LaserJock> 2) only have ubuntu-edu-* depend on gcompris-sound-en and put the rest as .debs on the DVD
[04:07] <jbicha> it looks like the "incomplete language packages" add up to 408MB / 1425MB installed
[04:08] <jbicha> yeah, why does gcompris-sound-pt for instance depend on language-pack-gnome-pt-base ?
[04:08] <LaserJock> jbicha: the release manager said we want Depends, not Pre-depends
[04:08] <LaserJock> to get the translated text
[04:14] <jbicha> LaserJock: Debian has the same issue with moodle in sid, at least
[04:15] <LaserJock> hmm
[04:16] <jbicha> because I tested both my bugs with sid
[04:22] <jbicha> LaserJock: what they're saying is that the moodle packaging needs to check if the database is running, and if not, to start it ?
[04:27] <jbicha> LaserJock: I can try adding the db as just a depends instead of recommends, unfortunately I have to leave for work soon
[04:30] <alkisg> sbalneav: ping?
[04:30] <LaserJock> jbicha: yeah, go for it
[07:41] <alkisg_work> Good morning
[15:04] <LaserJock> anybody try installing LTSP from the DVD?
[16:50] <jbicha> LaserJock: "depends" works fine for the moodle issue
[16:51] <LaserJock> jbicha: k
[16:58] <jbicha> LaserJock: sorry for the trouble, I do understand depends a bit better today though
[17:00] <LaserJock> well, it didn't occur to me that depends would be different than recommends that way
[17:02] <jbicha> I think slangasek is happier with the patch now too
[17:05] <LaserJock> yeah, I would imagine
[17:22] <LaserJock> ok sweet, we got 100% testing coverage
[17:30] <LaserJock> highvoltage: you here?
[17:31] <highvoltage> LaserJock: yep
[17:31] <LaserJock> highvoltage: we need to start working on the release notes and release announcement
[17:31] <LaserJock> and getting the website ready (front page and download page at least)
[17:32] <highvoltage> LaserJock: ok, I'll be spending focus on the MC meeting in just a few minutes though
[17:32] <LaserJock> oh?!
[17:32] <highvoltage> LaserJock: in terms of website it feels apprpiate though to start over
[17:32] <LaserJock> is that in #ubuntu-meeting?
[17:32] <highvoltage> LaserJock: I think it's mc meeting in a few minutes
[17:33]  * highvoltage scrambles for diary and wiki pages
[17:33] <highvoltage> LaserJock: yes, in ~27 minutes, #ubuntu-meeting
[17:51] <jbicha> I don't know if it's appropriate for release notes, but SchoolTool does not yet work with the upgraded Zope packages in Karmic, so anyone dependent on that should hold off on upgrading
[17:52] <LaserJock> yeah, I'm not sure if that's something we should mention or not
[17:52] <LaserJock> presumably SchoolTool will fix that at some point
[17:56] <jbicha> they've begun work on fixing that, and they said their goal is to be in the official repositories for Lucid
[17:56] <LaserJock> good
[17:56] <LaserJock> it's been a long time
[17:56] <jbicha> since they aren't in the repos now, it probably doesn't meet the threshold, but how popular is it anyway?
[17:57] <LaserJock> I have no idea
[17:57] <highvoltage> LaserJock: imho it would be something quite important to mention
[17:57] <LaserJock> why?
[17:57] <LaserJock> SchoolTool is not an Ubuntu problem
[17:57] <LaserJock> and if they fix it in a month or two
[17:57] <highvoltage> oh wait, schooltool isn't in the archives? yeah then you're right
[17:57] <highvoltage> sorry
[17:57] <LaserJock> then our release notes are then wrong
[17:58] <LaserJock> I'd rather them just fix it :-)
[17:58] <highvoltage> It's been a while since I used schooltool so I didn't realise it's not in the archives anymore, my bad
[17:58] <LaserJock> it hasn't been in the archives for a few years now ;-)
[17:59] <LaserJock> they never could get it to work with Ubuntu's version of zope
[17:59] <LaserJock> so they forked it
[17:59] <highvoltage> heh, I think I actually last used it when it was still installed with edubuntu by default :)
[18:00] <highvoltage> zope sounds so messy. it's supposedly very good but it seems to cause lots of pain for those who use it
[18:03] <LaserJock> I'm kinda worried that LTSP install won't work from the DVD
[18:03] <LaserJock> davmor2 didn't have problems but in my Virtualbox installs the resulting desktop won't log in
[18:03] <LaserJock> it just throws a bunch of gconf errors