[04:22] <linuxpoet> Ubuntu's drivers are just as wide as any linux
[04:22] <rg58sma> hi
[04:22] <psychonate> knucks, grip+lame is good for mp3 encoding, though I prefer Ogg Vorbis myself
[04:23] <ProtoformX> Hm.
[04:23] <knucks> i cant install gstreamer0.8-lame
[04:23] <knucks> says it depends on libc6 WHICH I HAVE
[04:23] <knucks> but it says i dont
[04:23] <linuxpoet> knucks enable your universe repository
[04:23] <linuxpoet> then do apt-get update
[04:23] <linuxpoet> apt-get upgrade
[04:23] <psychonate> also,
[04:23] <psychonate> you probably just want lame for encoding
[04:24] <ian> Razor-X: after a apt-get finish i issue command dpkg ... there is an error: http://pastebin.com/293035
[04:24] <psychonate> I think gstreamer-lame is just a plugin for gstreamer
[04:24] <knucks> ill try..
[04:24] <knucks> i cant encode mp3..
[04:24] <knucks> everything is installed except gstreamer
[04:24] <psychonate> hmm, I'm getting a 404: Authorization Required
[04:24] <psychonate> when trying to fetch some packages
[04:25] <ProtoformX> Well, at least on this box, it was a bit annoying searching for the drivers I needed..  Both for sound, and graphics.. So what I perhaps should have asked is if Abuntu actually has the drivers easily accessable and usable..
[04:25] <hikaru79> Protoform, sound is usually working out-of-the-box. What video card do you have?
[04:25] <hikaru79> If it's Nvidia or ATI, it will also be very easy.
[04:26] <psychonate> why is it so difficult to install all packages beginning with "xfonts," excluding one in just one command?
[04:26] <psychonate> :(
[04:26] <ProtoformX> It's an Nvidia G-Force 3 I believe.. It's integrated into the mobo...
[04:26] <bratsche> The nvidia drivers will work with that.
[04:26] <kraker> #lost.no
[04:26] <rabid_snail> Does hoary have support for Linksys 802.11b PCI cards?
[04:27] <manulito> any ubuntu developer have 1-2 minutes to spare, im a intressted in helping out. need some pointers
[04:27] <psychonate> I don't want to sit in synaptic clicking boxes for a half hour
[04:28] <ProtoformX> Mm..  Sound working out of the box, would be nice.  I got a Soundblaster Live sound card for this box in hopes that it would give me sound, and while all the drivers have been "installed" as near as I can tell, I still can't get sound.  Would it be probable that Ubuntu could support that card with some drivers it has pre-loaded..?
[04:28] <ian> hello can somebody help me with my problem.. http://pastebin.com/293035
[04:28] <ian> im new in linux.
[04:28] <ian> :(
[04:29] <Th4tBa5t4rd> speaking of nVidia drivers.... can I apt-get the nVidias or just the generic nv drivers?
[04:30] <psychonate> hmm,
[04:30] <psychonate> is there a reason you are typing "nVidia" instead of "Nvidia"
[04:30] <linuxpoet> Because the "V" is really important
[04:30] <kassetra> nVidia is how the company references their products?
[04:30] <psychonate> really
[04:31] <Th4tBa5t4rd> well. i just wanted to make sure the difference was made
[04:31] <psychonate> did not know that
[04:31] <dssfilesharer_> any links available ubuntu add-on cd since ubuntu isnt allowing the download anymore
[04:31] <psychonate> actually, on their website they usually write "NVIDIA"
[04:32] <psychonate> but I see a lot of "nVidia"on google
[04:32] <Th4tBa5t4rd> usually, but on their promo junk it's nVidia, that's the trademark anyways
[04:32] <manulito> are there nay ubuntu-dev channel around ?
[04:32] <psychonate> ah, I see
[04:32] <manulito> dev-ubuntu
[04:32] <psychonate> just wondering ;)
[04:32] <kassetra> nV is their driver, nVidia are typically products, etc.
[04:32] <psychonate> fair enough
[04:32] <nalioth> ian how many repositorys do you have enabled?
[04:33] <ProtoformX> Er... So, anyone happen to know about that usability of Soundblaster Live cards with Ubuntu..?
[04:33] <linuxpoet> They should work without issue
[04:33] <toran> hey, does anyone know how to get planeshift running on ubuntu?
[04:33] <kassetra> if you look at the logo on their site as well, the have nVIDIA ... heh.
[04:33] <linuxpoet> Althgouh I don't know about the external USB ones and such
[04:33] <kassetra> *they
[04:33] <ProtoformX> Mm, indeed.
[04:33] <WhiteRabbit> planeshift doesn't properly support linux imho
[04:33] <ProtoformX> Okay, thanks very much.
[04:33] <ian> nalioth: i think its not a problem with my apt-get..because i has finish install libqt3c102-mt. the problem is with my dpkg.
[04:34] <ian> nalioth: here is the error after i dpkg. http://pastebin.com/293035
[04:34] <ian> :(
[04:34] <psychonate> man, I love aterm
[04:34] <toran> psychonate: me too
[04:34] <toran> I started using it when I changed to fluxbox
[04:35] <ian> nalioth: what do you think went wrong? :(
[04:35] <nalioth> ian, so you cannot get kiax from the repositories?
[04:35] <psychonate> 'aterm -tr +sb -sh 70 -fg gray -g 100x25+300+250' for my twinview
[04:35] <psychonate> toran, I used to use Eterm
[04:35] <WhiteRabbit> aterm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1
[04:36] <psychonate> nice font, is that?
[04:36] <jasmuz> /quit
[04:36] <toran> I like the artwiz fonts
[04:36] <galactic2> razor-x you there?
[04:36] <psychonate> right now, I'm just using the default
[04:36] <ian> nalioth: yes.. i get the libqt3c102-mt from the repo..but not kiax
[04:36] <ian> nalioth: kiax can not be found..the the repo.
[04:36] <psychonate> not great, but it looks much better than the default Eterm font at least
[04:36] <psychonate> I typically hate messing with fonts
[04:37] <nalioth> ian have you tried to build kiax from source?
[04:37] <psychonate> OK
[04:37] <ian> nalioth: nope.. im really new in linux. but i need voip that support iax..which is in kiax. how do i do that?
[04:37] <psychonate> I installed all the xfonts* packages, and some things in the 'rename' man page still aren't being displayed correctly
[04:38] <psychonate> Do I need to restart X first?
[04:38] <dssfilesharer_> does anyone know of a ftp that has ubunto add-on cd
[04:38] <psychonate> Does the website not have it?
[04:38] <ian> nalioth: do i need to do that? :(
[04:39] <dssfilesharer_> went to ubunto and they dont have it anymore
[04:39] <nalioth> ian try this: "sudo apt-get build-dep kiax" and then "sudo apt-get source -b kiax"
[04:39] <cesar_> hey , good night to all , good luck !.
[04:40] <nern> im back~!
[04:40] <psychonate> I'm getting frustrated here
[04:40] <psychonate> I still can't read the example in my man page
[04:40] <psychonate> er, huh,
[04:41] <ian> naliot: Unable to find a source package for kiax
[04:41] <ian>  :( how about dpkg the kiax deb file with a force option? it there any option for that?
[04:41] <psychonate> must be something with aterm and Eterm since it looks alright in a console
[04:41] <arcticblue> how can i get transcode to install?
[04:41] <linuxpoet> psychonate: why not just run gnome-terminal
[04:41] <nalioth> ian: the deb you are trying to install was build for generic debian
[04:42] <ian> nalioth: ic so its not possible to installed it in ubuntu?
[04:42] <nalioth> ian: it will not install here, because the devs change the name of everhting to _ubjntu_
[04:42] <nalioth> ian: yes it is possible
[04:43] <nalioth> anything is possible
[04:43] <psychonate> now wtf
[04:43] <psychonate> it only works fine on TTY1
[04:43] <qweeq> hi
[04:43] <psychonate> What is that lol?
[04:43] <psychonate> well, actually, even on tty1 it doesn't display ' correctly
[04:44] <qweeq> i was to load gnome panels in ubuntu live cd but it hangs afterwards i passed the option live noapc nolapic acpi=off vga=771
[04:44] <qweeq> can someone help
[04:44] <qweeq> its live cd amd 64
[04:44] <psychonate> It's a sad state of affairs when a man can't even look at his man page
[04:44] <nern> Hey its qweeq again
[04:44] <arcticblue> i am trying to install dvdrip in hoary, but it says that it needs transcode then it complains that transcode cannot be installed.  how do i get transcode on here?
[04:45] <J35U5> anyone know how to open a .wps file in OO.o?
[04:45] <nalioth> arcticblue: i had to compile it by hand
[04:45] <arcticblue> nalioth:  awesome
[04:45] <qweeq> hi nern i was able to get gnome panels up but it crashes i used the options boot: live noapic nolapic acpi=off vga=771 pls help
[04:47] <nalioth> arcticblue: what hdwre are u running?
[04:48] <arcticblue> nalioth: it's just a laptop.  TMO lost my computer...
[04:48] <qweeq> nern still here
[04:48] <nern> qweeq: have you thought about just installing it on the hard drive instead of using a livecd?
[04:49] <qweeq> well i dunno if my stuff will work or not
[04:49] <nern> qweeq: i donno what to say man i have no clue
[04:51] <nern> Hey there bob2
[04:51] <bob2> hi
[04:51] <makavely> hello
[04:53] <makavely> can somebody help me with a problem i have with ubuntu ?
[04:53] <bob2> best to just ask
[04:53] <manulito> Anyone in here know what chan the ubuntu-developers hang?
[04:54] <bob2> #ubuntu-devel, but it's for actual development discussion
[04:54] <nalioth> arcticblue: well if its x86, then you might be able to find a repo, but i recommend apt-building from source
[04:54] <bob2> not for asking for help
[04:54] <arcticblue> nalioth: ah, yes, it's x86.  is the source package available on apt?
[04:54] <makavely> iam haveing this problem when i tried to install anything
[04:54] <Tyche> Hello
[04:55] <bob2> makavely: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[04:55] <Tyche> I am installing something and it is asking for the " directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" Where would that be?
[04:55] <makavely> i think the problem is in my repositories
[04:55] <inc> anybody know how to minimize rdesktop when you are connected to a windows box?
[04:56] <nalioth> arcticblue: it should be
[04:56] <[Spooky] > Anyone that can portscan me ?
[04:56] <Tyche> [Spooky]  I can try, nmap?
[04:56] <bob2> Tyche: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:56] <[Spooky] > Tyche: sure...
[04:57] <[Spooky] > Tyche: you have my ip ?
[04:58] <makavely> i try to install j2se runtime environment
[04:58] <Tyche> [Spooky]  No
[04:58] <makavely> and i get this message it is in spanish
[04:58] <bob2> makavely: you don't seem to have done what I asked yet
[04:58] <makavely>  sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[04:58] <makavely> Password:
[04:58] <makavely> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[04:58] <makavely> Creando rbol de dependencias... Hecho
[04:58] <makavely> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[04:58] <makavely> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[04:58] <makavely> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[04:58] <makavely> W: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[04:58] <makavely> W: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas
[04:58] <makavely> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete sun-j2re1.5
[04:58] <makavely> ok bob2
[04:59] <bob2> makavely: so
[04:59] <Tyche> [Spooky]  How do I get it?
[04:59] <bob2> makavely: a) don't ignore people, b) don't paste things in here, c) backports are screwing you over
[04:59] <makavely> didnt read what you told me
[04:59] <makavely> sorry
[04:59] <Quest-Master> God-- K3b rocks so much.
[04:59] <[Spooky] > Tyche: i have sent it in a /notice to you
[04:59] <nern> how hot are prescotts really?
[04:59] <nern> IM using k3b myself as we speak
[04:59] <nern> ;)
[04:59] <Tyche> [Spooky]  Sorry, I'm new to this Xchat...where do I look for that?
[04:59] <makavely> bob2 : i go to #flood and put my source.list there ?
[05:00] <[Spooky] > Tyche: w8
[05:00] <Tyche> [Spooky]  NM, see it
[05:00] <bob2> makavely: yes
[05:00] <[Spooky] > hehe ok
[05:00] <[Spooky] > bob2: hey man! :)
[05:00] <bob2> hi
[05:01] <makavely> bob2 : i paste my source.list in the flood channel ?
[05:02] <bob2> makavely: yes...
[05:02] <nalioth> bob2: i'm glad you're here, all the ops was gone a while, and the trolls came out of the woodwork
[05:03] <nern> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116178
[05:03] <nern> what about that cpu
[05:04] <makavely> there bob2 i put my source.list in flood
[05:04] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> hmmm just installed kde and for some reason konqueror keeps crashing when i try to delete a file
[05:04] <nalioth> Pop_pa_FrEaK: welcome to the club...konqueror doesnt like running in gnome for some reason
[05:04] <Tyche> I am installing something and it is asking for the " directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" Where would that be?
[05:04] <spiderworm> hi all is it possible to set it up so that anything done via sudo needs a root password that is unique from the user password?
[05:07] <bob2> Tyche: I already answered you
[05:07] <bob2> Tyche: once you've installed that, look in /usr/src/
[05:07] <bob2> makavely: your sources.list is broken
[05:07] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> nalioth, so best to download kubuntu then ?
[05:07] <makavely> bob2 : how do i fix it ?
[05:07] <dbernar1_> hi, bob2, and others...
[05:07] <bob2> makavely: comment out all ther nerim.net ones, and the backports ones
[05:08] <dbernar1_> :) the notorious ubuntuguide.org syndrome...
[05:08] <dbernar1_> hey, Ill gtell that guy that it is braking a lot of systems, to reconsider, and put warnings about that.
[05:08] <ElBarono> why the fuck does gnome keep launching metacity even though I have sawfish configured as the x-window-manager?
[05:08] <dbernar1_> breaking
[05:08] <dbernar1_> yeah, why the fuck, elbarono?
[05:08] <ElBarono> piece of shite
[05:09] <dbernar1_> thats al I see, Im sorry, I cant answer that...
[05:09] <makavely> bob2 : i erase the marillat and backports links ?
[05:10] <conformistINred> sure, or put a # ion front
[05:10] <nalioth> Pop_pa_FrEaK: i never have a prob with konqueror when i'm in kubuntu
[05:10] <nalioth> Pop_pa_FrEaK: ymmv
[05:10] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> ok will have to download kubuntu then
[05:10] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> can't live without amaok and it looks like crap in gnome
[05:11] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> amarok
[05:11] <CJ7> Anyone got a good guide/url on how to set up printing to a samba shared network printer from ubuntu?
[05:11] <lunarknight> Hello, I get an error when initializing sound for SDL.    open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[05:14] <conformistINred> CJ7: hey, there is a samba setting up how to on the wiki at ubuntulinux.org/wiki I just found out... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba .
[05:14] <makavely> bob2 : can you explain me how to fix the source.list ? i didnt understand the last thing you told me
[05:14] <conformistINred> ) makavely: bob2 : i erase the marillat and backports links ?conformistINred: sure, or put a # ion front
[05:14] <zachary> anyone know of an easy photo editor
[05:14] <xterra77> anyone know why the ubuntu guide is using backports? Should I use the reugular repo setup by default?
[05:14] <zachary> besides gimp
[05:14] <conformistINred> that means, you put a # sign in the front of the line they contain, or erase them.
[05:15] <CJ7> conformistINred, I've already looked at that - doesn't say a lot about how to set up the printer etc...
[05:15] <conformistINred> zachary: gthumb is what I use for creating web album, be more specific if you want more  info...also, your synaptic has a search function
[05:15] <predius> xterra77, some packages are not included in the ubuntu repos.
[05:16] <makavely> ) conformistINerd : you have the same problem that i have ?
[05:16] <predius> be careful, the backports.ubuntuforums is not working, if you're goint yo use it, try one of the mirrors.
[05:16] <conformistINred> CJ7: really? ok, cool, there seem to be links, did you follow those?
[05:16] <conformistINred> no, I have solved dozens like that tho:)
[05:16] <CJ7> conformistINred, looking again now - it may be what i need...not sure...
[05:16] <CJ7> I'm more after how to set up the cups side of it than the samba side though...
[05:17] <conformistINred> the only reason this is my nick, tho, is that there was a REBELinBLUE at one point earlier...
[05:17] <makavely> oh
[05:18] <conformistINred> makavely, for reasons like this, I suggest using http://pastebin.com instead of #flood, cause I was not there, and now you have to paste again...if you use pastebin, you can post tio pastebin, then keep the URL you get, and pass it out as many times as needed.
[05:18] <conformistINred> Also, keep it in the channel, cause, were you not speaking with bob2 in the channel I would not have heard your converstation, please continue to solve you rproblem in public.
[05:18] <xterra77> predius, I see--what major or popular packages will I not get with the "official" repo with universe and multiuniverse turned on?
[05:19] <zachary> thanks conformist
[05:19] <xterra77> predius, and not using mer and backports
[05:19] <conformistINred> xterra77: they are using it cause the guy who wrote it knows what he is doing, and other ppl that read it screw up their sources.list more often than not.. dont use unless you hear there is a package that you need, and cant get in ubuntu repos...
[05:20] <predius> you won't get multimedia, mainly.
[05:20] <predius> or most binary-only packages
[05:20] <conformistINred> mainly everything will work:-p
[05:20] <predius> since restricted is only binary video drivers, i think
[05:20] <conformistINred> predius: you know this for a fact? cause I didnt think so, but I donty have a fact...
[05:21] <predius> well, I'm not a MoTU or maintain backports, still, it's supposed to be like this.
[05:21] <conformistINred> predius: to learn some more: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view .
[05:21] <conformistINred> that was not correct, for those who read it:)
[05:22] <conformistINred> that paeg tells the true story about that(exclueding the backports) backports are a separate story, visit the forums for more info...
[05:22] <predius> i know what backports are.
[05:22] <conformistINred> you showed you dont, already:)
[05:22] <predius> the backports.ubuntuforums doesn't *just* give backports
[05:23] <predius> since you can get the sun-jdk
[05:23] <xterra77> conformistINred, ok got it. thanks
[05:23] <predius> and other packages
[05:23] <conformistINred> xterra77: kk, welcome.
[05:23] <makavely> here it is the page
[05:23] <makavely> http://pastebin.com/293067
[05:24] <conformistINred> oh, you mean, that in the sense of backports, the ubuntu forums are not just backports...yeah, I agree:)
[05:24] <predius> then?
[05:24] <predius> that was y whole point
[05:24] <predius> *my
[05:24] <conformistINred> well, read that page to learn more about ubuntu reposirotires:-p
[05:24] <predius> backports.ubuntuforums not only has backports, but
[05:25] <conformistINred> makavely, thanks, please give us a few moments to read....this I say this time, next time you know ppl need time to read.
[05:25] <predius> never mind
[05:25] <conformistINred> one of the things I complained about is that you dont seem to know what multiverse is,...iit is a collection of binaries that are not open source.
[05:25] <makavely> ok , thanks for the help
[05:25] <conformistINred> kk, welcome.
[05:25] <conformistINred> wehre you from?
[05:26] <conformistINred> makavely:
[05:26] <makavely> Argentina
[05:26] <conformistINred> ok, give me a sec.
[05:26] <predius> #
[05:26] <predius> #
[05:26] <predius> ##Backports
[05:26] <predius> #
[05:26] <predius> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/ hoary-backports main universe
[05:26] <predius> #
[05:26] <predius>  this wont work
[05:26] <predius> they closed the server
[05:26] <predius> the rep, at least.
[05:26] <nalioth> predius: backports are trouble, anyway
[05:27] <conformistINred> yeah, you are right, predius, taht is true.
[05:27] <conformistINred> hey nalioth...
[05:27] <predius> geez, it's all against Predius today.
[05:28] <predius> I started by answering makavely's question on why is ubuntuguide using the backports rep, and now people are telling me that backports are trouble?
[05:28] <rj`> ://
[05:28] <xterra77> I agree I will have to reinstall my ubuntu because of stupid backports...then again I dont know what I'm doing yet
[05:28] <conformistINred> predius: who is against you?
[05:28] <rj`> i use breezy -- shrug.
[05:29] <conformistINred> xterra77: what is wrong, tho?
[05:29] <xterra77> is brezzy pretty stable?
[05:29] <conformistINred> no, not at all, /topic for more detail
[05:29] <nos> Anyone able to help me out with an ALSA issue?
[05:29] <rj`> not really
[05:29] <rj`> :/
[05:29] <xterra77> conformistINred, for some reason I have to force quit using bluefish sometimes...never before using backports though :)
[05:30] <bob2> conformistINred: the conversation was entirely in here
[05:30] <bob2> conformistINred: he/she pasted the file to #flood, which is entirely approriate, and what I asked for
[05:30] <bob2> predius: they're not very well done and can cause problems
[05:30] <bob2> it's best to avoid them if at all possible
[05:30] <bob2> the marillat ones are worse, they make things like mplayer uninstalable
[05:31] <predius> guys, where am I recommending backports?
[05:31] <predius> could people scroll up a little?
[05:31] <bob2> erm?
[05:31] <conformistINred> bob2: he was /msg ing me taht is what I was referring to...
[05:31] <predius> xterra77 anyone know why the ubuntu guide is using backports? Should I use the reugular repo setup by default?
[05:31] <xterra77> conformistINred, I know it sounds unrelated...but its true and firefox 1.04 gets "bogged down" uses 105% resources on some sites..not usre how this is possible, but Official unbuntu is flawless
[05:31] <bob2> predius: when did anyone suggest you were recommending them
[05:32] <flankk> question: when evolution checks for mail on a pop server, does it delete messages from the server and store them to hd? because i just reformatted, and checked my mail via. the web-based interface, and -all- of my messages have been deleted.
[05:32] <xterra77> predius, ?
[05:32] <conformistINred> bob2: the recommending of pastebin was to do with #flood
[05:32] <conformistINred> just cause he had to do it again for me.
[05:32] <predius> not at you, I was posting something you had said, xterra77
[05:32] <nos> My sound was working fine yesterday, and today it's not, alsamixer has the wrong soundcard selected, anyone able to help me change it?
[05:33] <xterra77> predius, sorry long day at work and school
[05:33] <bob2> pastebin's are ever more annoying than #flood
[05:33] <bob2> nos: what has changed since it last worked?
[05:33] <conformistINred> makavely: hey, I got you a sources.list you can take home... http://pastebin.com/293070 ...dont remove the # from the end of the file unless when you know what you are looking for, and as soon as you are done getting it, put the # back in front of the lines... referring to the last two entries in that sources.list
[05:33] <conformistINred> bob2: why would you say that? about pastebins?
[05:33] <nos> bob2, nothing, all I did today was open the case, blew out dust with air and tured the computer on
[05:34] <flankk> xterra77, maybe flawless for you, after using it for a week, my cursor and page started jumping around rapidly on its own..
[05:34] <bob2> conformistINred: opening a browser tab is more annoying than switching irc windows
[05:34] <predius> perhaps it got disconnected?
[05:34] <conformistINred> flankk: most programs by default do, you have to specify not tto.
[05:34] <makavely> thanks
[05:34] <nos> bob2, no hardware changes were made and everything is seated correctly
[05:34] <flankk> conformistINred, i am fine with that, i am just verifying that someone doesn't know my password :)
[05:34] <nalioth> flankk: it only deletes mail on server, if you have it set to do so
[05:34] <ZGamer> Excuse me, but how do I access a floppy drive? New to linux....
[05:35] <conformistINred> bob2: Im not talking about annoyance, I am talking about him having a sopy of it to keep, not to have to paste ten times for 10 diff people, that is all, dunno whats more annoying to you:) know who this is?
[05:35] <john123123123> hello can i ask a question i am a new user to linux
[05:35] <predius> no. ;)
[05:35] <xterra77> flankk, well my problem is...I can "never leave well alone" and always screw my installation up doing something...at least Ubuntu is easy to reinstall ;)
[05:35] <john123123123> funny
[05:35] <transgress> john123123123: /topic
[05:35] <conformistINred> flankk: yes, likely that is what happened, if you had not specified, yes keep a copy on the server, it was deleted when fetched
[05:35] <bob2> conformistINred: the 5 most useful people in this channel are already in #flood
[05:35] <conformistINred> wekll, I wasnt:-p
[05:36] <conformistINred> makavely: now, change your sources.list to that, sudo aptitude update, and install whatever you were trying to.
[05:36] <nalioth> bob2, now i'm just crushed  <sniff>
[05:36] <bob2> hrm, that came out all wrong
[05:36] <john123123123> can i have a live cd only point to my memory stick 128mb
[05:36] <bob2> I take that back, I'm sorry
[05:36] <transgress> aptitude update?  isn't that a bit overkill... wouldn't sudo apt-get update work?
[05:36] <makavely> on last question i erase the # when i put it in the source.list ?
[05:37] <predius> weird, why is firefox-1.0.2 in the security rep?
[05:37] <conformistINred> makavely, dont touch anything, till you learn what you are doing, it wil be fine now.
[05:37] <bob2> predius: because firefox has had numerous security issues since hoary came out
[05:37] <conformistINred> ZGamer: is the floppy disk in the drive?
[05:37] <bob2> predius: which are fixed in 1.0.2 in the security repository
[05:37] <ZGamer> conformist, yep.
[05:37] <conformistINred> bob2: what do you take bac?
[05:37] <bigmac99> anybody here using a tv tuner card with ubuntu?  I need help please.
[05:37] <conformistINred> YOu mean, the 5 most knowledgeable, not most useful;)
[05:38] <john123123123> can i have a live cd only point to my memory stick 128mb??
[05:38] <nalioth> conformistINred: bob2 insulted most of us in one simple sentence <sniff>
[05:38] <flankk> conformistINred, thank you
[05:38] <conformistINred> im fine with that:) you are just teasing him too... I kno...
[05:38] <nalioth> bob2 i'm just messin with ya
[05:39] <bigmac99> for some reason Ubuntu is not recognizing my line-in on my Soundblaster Audigy 2 card
[05:39] <conformistINred> Im that conformistINred, dont thank me, thank the REBELinBLUE
[05:39] <rebelINgreen> what about me?
[05:40] <arcticblue> lol
[05:40] <nonconformistNOT> ='(
[05:40] <ZGamer> conformistINred: floppy is in drive.
[05:40] <conformistINred> hehe, but...myine was the original idea, + I played it better...like, the guy was REBELinBLUE, so I made myself conformistINred....see the point?
[05:41] <conformistINred> zgamer, yeah, sorry...go places computer
[05:41] <conformistrebel> ?
[05:41] <conformistINred> double click the floppy entry
[05:41] <conformistINred> haha,
[05:41] <conformistINred> nice, arcticblue...
[05:41] <arcticblue> heh
[05:41] <ZGamer> okay, in computer.
[05:42] <Danko3> ok, is there a floppy there?
[05:42] <ZGamer> nope.
[05:42] <Danko3> bigmac99: did you disable the onboard ione in bios?
[05:42] <arcticblue> now i have to listen to some rage against the machine...thanks guys
[05:42] <bigmac99> yes Danko3
[05:43] <nalioth> arcticblue: you're gonna boot up a windoze box?
[05:43] <Danko3> bigmac99: did you read this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=sound+cards I gotta go...
[05:43] <makavely> conformistinred like this my source list should look like ? http://pastebin.com/293074
[05:43] <arcticblue> nalioth: lol
[05:44] <bigmac99> thanks Danko3, I'll check it out
[05:44] <Danko3> makavely, no just like what I posted.
[05:44] <nos> bob2, Thanks for the reply, I got it figured out
[05:44] <Danko3> And, makavely, try #ubuntu-es if you have not...
[05:44] <Danko3> once you make it exactly as I posted....
[05:44] <Danko3> save, close the sources.list file... and in a terminal, type in sudo aptitude update and hit enter....and continue using your ubuntu like you did before this happened.
[05:45] <Danko3> ok, im out.
[05:45] <Danko3> sorr zgamer, someone will help you,
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> yo
[05:45] <Danko3> hey, tiglion]
[05:46] <tiglionabbit> Excuse me, but What is the standard resolution for ubuntu's incredible stupidity at internet connections for laptops?  I'm talking about keeping it from configuring forever at bootup
[05:46] <bob2> tiglionabbit: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[05:46] <bob2> tiglionabbit: and you've had this explained to you already
[05:48] <tiglionabbit> *sighs
[05:49] <bob2> and why are you sighing?
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> last time they said something about using netconf.  But other people are recommending ifplugd..  and gnome's network-admin program keeps mangling my network/interfaces file.  I have no auto lines in it, yet it continues to attempt to configure network settings
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> it's all so confusing.  What should I do?
[05:50] <bob2> no
[05:50] <bob2> I told you how to fix it
[05:50] <bob2> get rid of the auto line from /etc/network/interfaces
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> I did
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> I've tried restarting it while there is no auto lines in that at all, and it still does "configuring network settings"
[05:51] <nalioth> bob2 if you do that "auto" removal, do you have to manually log into wireless networks?
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> network-admin adds the auto lines whenever you run it, too
[05:51] <bob2> so
[05:51] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: if i recall, there is an entry at ubuntuguide on this issue
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> and does a bad job of it, with lots of extra whitespace
[05:51] <bob2> don't run network-ad,min
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> how else can I connect to wireless, bob?
[05:52] <bigmac99> anybody here running MYTHTV?
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> when I have no lan plugged in, it always enables my lan and disables my wireless
[05:52] <bob2> tiglionabbit: sudo ifup eth0
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> that's pretty dumb, isn't it?
[05:52] <bob2> nalioth: yes
[05:52] <Predius> iwconfig, tiggggr
[05:52] <Predius> iwconfig, tiglionabbit
[05:52] <bob2> tiglionabbit: please just stop whinging
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> I'm sorry
[05:52] <bob2> tiglionabbit: I told you it was a bug, and that it would be fixed in breezy
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> I know this is all fixed in breezy
[05:52] <bob2> I told you how to work around it, too
[05:52] <nalioth> thx, bob2
[05:52] <bob2> but still, you come back and abuse people, days later
[05:53] <arcticblue> where can i get the libdivxencore and libdivxdecore libraries at?
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> no you haven't bob2, I still can't get it to work
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> I'll check ubuntuguide
[05:53] <bob2> tiglionabbit: can't get WHAT to work?
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> er, I'm sorry, I don't want to sound like an ass.
[05:53] <bob2> if you remove the auto line, you won't have delays on boot
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> bob2: that is incorrect
[05:53] <bob2> if you want to bring it up, "sudo ifup eth0", as I said
[05:53] <bob2> tiglionabbit: paste your /etc/network/interfaces to #flood
[05:54] <tiglionabbit> there
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> I trimmed the whitespace out of it after network-admin mangled it
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> oh, how do I view the log of messages it prints on startup?
[05:55] <bigmac99> anybody here using a TV TUNER card? or MYTHTV?
[05:55] <bob2> comment out the mapping lines
[05:55] <bob2> bigmac99: dude, if they did they would have answered
[05:55] <bob2> bigmac99: try asking on the ubuntu-users list, http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[05:55] <awb4422> bigmac99: i am
[05:56] <bigmac99> are you running MythTV?
[05:56] <awb4422> yes
[05:56] <bigmac99> how long have you been running it?  I can't apt-get it
[05:56] <tiglionabbit> bob2: You mean the set of 3 lines, or just the first?
[05:57] <awb4422> since hoary came out. have you enabled the multiverse and universe repositories?
[05:57] <bigmac99> yes
[05:57] <Revolucion> i need help with unbuntu!
[05:57] <bob2> tiglionabbit: all 3
[05:57] <nalioth> Revolucion: help with what? speak up
[05:57] <rebelINgreen> Revolucion: try joining #unbuntu then
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> is backports.ubuntuforums.org down?
[05:57] <Predius> they closed it.
[05:57] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: backports are trouble
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> really?
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> o
[05:57] <bigmac99> I get an error message about dependency problems
[05:57] <bob2> tiglionabbit: read the website
[05:57] <Predius> check the mirrors, they should work.
[05:58] <bob2> also, ask on the forums, that;s the only place they seem to hang out
[05:58] <Revolucion> i need to install flash player, and have no idea how to. i've already downloaded it, and i dont know how to unpack it
[05:58] <bob2> Revolucion: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:58] <nalioth> Revolucion: have you read ubuntuguide.org?
[05:58] <Revolucion> no.
[05:58] <nalioth> Revolucion: read both places
[05:58] <awb4422> bigmac99: what is the error?
[05:59] <bigmac99> it starts with libc6 should be this version but ubuntu version is installed
[05:59] <Revolucion> no see i already got it
[05:59] <Revolucion> and i just dont know how to unpack it
[05:59] <nalioth> Revolucion: one (or both) of those links will tell you how to install it
[05:59] <bigmac99> then libqt3c102-mt same thing
[06:00] <awb4422> bigmac99: did it give instructions about apt-get -f install
[06:00] <bob2> awb4422: that won't help
[06:00] <bob2> the package bigmac99 has is not for Ubuntu
[06:00] <awb4422> bigmac99: and are you pulling from multiverse/universe or the ~mdz packages?
[06:00] <bob2> and is not installable on ubuntu
[06:00] <Revolucion> let me clear it up. i dont know how to use liunx, i need step by step help.
[06:00] <arcticblue> where can i get the libdivxencore and libdivxdecore libraries at?  i can't find them in any of the repos.
[06:00] <bob2> Revolucion: did you read either of those websites?
[06:00] <awb4422> bob2: oh ok.. i had a libc6 error earlier tonight, and it told me to do a apt-get -f install
[06:00] <Revolucion> the first one
[06:01] <bigmac99> awb - it doesn't say anything about apt-get -f install on the error message
[06:01] <bob2> awb4422: that won't fix it
[06:01] <bigmac99> I think I have the multiverse/universe and ~mdz in my sources.list now, but I didn't have the mdz line in there at first
[06:01] <awb4422> bigmac99: well you can check out this site: http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=mythtv
[06:01] <nalioth> arcticblue: you got multiverse, universe?
[06:01] <s234>  ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[06:01] <s234> Warning: Tried to connect to session manager, Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[06:01] <awb4422> i typically just sudo apt-get install mythtv
[06:01] <arcticblue> nalioth: yes
[06:02] <ron_42> I am using Ubuntu and wondered what programs I could use to write a jpg slide show with music that outputs cross platform
[06:02] <bigmac99> bob2 - do you mean mythtv is not for ubuntu ?  what do you mean?
[06:02] <nalioth> arcticblue: welcome to the world of source building
[06:02] <bob2> bigmac99: I mean the packages you have are not for ubuntu
[06:02] <bob2> s234: don't run it as root
[06:02] <s234> whats gdm done wrong?
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> kk brb, hope it works this time
[06:02] <s234> ok
[06:02] <bigmac99> I don't have any packages, I am doing apt-get
[06:02] <arcticblue> nalioth: yeah, i'm quite familiary with it...i just can't find those libraries anywhere.  projectmayo is dead.
[06:02] <bob2> ron_42: openoffic, probably
[06:03] <bob2> bigmac99: yes, all apt-get does is download and install packages
[06:03] <nalioth> arcticblue: how bout the source of those libs?
[06:03] <bigmac99> bob2 - how can I fix it?  why did apt-get not install the right packages
[06:03] <arcticblue> nalioth: hold on, let me check
[06:03] <xyzx> Hey Foks what is the best way to provide a remote access to my ubuntu/webserver to upload html etc. files?
[06:03] <nalioth> arcticblue: iow, are they "apt-get source -b <pkgname>"-able?
[06:04] <crimsun> xyzx: scp
[06:04] <bigmac99> awb - I try that and it doesn't work
[06:04] <nalioth> xyzx: sshd of course!
[06:04] <arcticblue> nalioth: i tried apt-get source divx*      nada
[06:04] <rixth> How can I get the (hdX,X) numbers?
[06:04] <nalioth> arcticblue: how bout *divx*
[06:04] <bob2> bigmac99: because the packages you told it about are not for ubuntu
[06:05] <arcticblue> nalioth: nothing
[06:05] <bob2> ron_42: hd0,0 = hda1, hd1,3 = hdb3
[06:05] <bigmac99> so mythtv is not for ubuntu?
[06:05] <bob2> bigmac99: lord
[06:05] <bob2> bigmac99: mythtv works fine on ubuntu
[06:05] <nalioth> arcticblue: hang on a minim
[06:05] <bob2> bigmac99: the particular random packages of it you found are not for ubuntu
[06:05] <bob2> find better ones
[06:05] <bob2> or install from source
[06:06] <bigmac99> how do I make apt-get instll different ones?
[06:06] <ron_42> I have tried Openoffice presentation but the dialog to add sound is grayed out
[06:06] <bob2> bigmac99: you find where they are and tell apt abou tthem in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:07] <frank_mc> anyone know why I cant get totem to play anything?
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> beautiful!  Thanks bob2!  sorry for whining
[06:07] <[Spooky] > how do i install the nvu package ? ive tried as they said in the ubuntuguide.org but it dosent work...
[06:07] <bob2> frank_mc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> frank_mc: maybe you need codecs
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> what he said
[06:07] <bigmac99> ok....thanks for your help BOB2 and AWB4422
[06:07] <frank_mc> cant get codecs to install
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> frank_mc: can you find the package "w32codecs" ?
[06:08] <nalioth> [Spooky] : using apt-get doenst work?
[06:08] <[Spooky] > nalioth: nope it cant find the "nvu package"
[06:09] <frank_mc> I'll try now like so apt-get w32codecs
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> frank_mc: apt-get install
[06:10] <frank_mc> I get E: Invalid operation w32codecs
[06:10] <frank_mc> k
[06:10] <nalioth> [Spooky] : hmmm, not up on ubuntuguides misdirections
[06:11] <tiglionabbit> where does it store the messages it prints when my computer is starting up?
[06:11] <frank_mc> got E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[06:11] <rixth> Ya'll know the numbers like (hd0,0) eh? What would it be for a SATA drive?
[06:11] <rixth> w32codecs been gone for ages.
[06:11] <tiglionabbit> frank_mc: you might need to add some of the backports mirrors: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[06:11] <tiglionabbit> add some mirrors there to your sources.list
[06:12] <frank_mc> How do I ad a backport
[06:12] <nalioth> frank_mc: don't add backports, just google ubuntulinux.org for "restricted formats"
[06:12] <[Spooky] > nalioth: well wery strange...
[06:12] <rixth> Ya'll know the numbers like (hd0,0) eh? What would it be for a SATA drive? I need to set up Grub.
[06:12] <geetergod> How do i install Doom 3 from the CD?
[06:13] <rixth> This is #ubuntu... Or is Doom III available for Linux?
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: the restricted formats faq tells you to add the backports repository, which is down.  I directed him to the page of alternative backports repositories
[06:13] <geetergod> yah you can play Doom3 on linux
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> er, not down but refusing connection
[06:14] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: he can get the w32codecs from universe or multiverse
[06:14] <ron_42> bob42 I have tried Open Office Presentation but the sound is grayed out
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> k
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> instruct him then, nalioth
[06:14] <geetergod> anyone know how i can install Doom3 from the CD?
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> anyway, my question, where's the startup log?
[06:14] <rebelINgreen> what's an easy way to reconfigure sound?  is there like a dpkg-reconfigure something?
[06:14] <rixth> When I try and install grub I get "grub-install /dev/sda *break* /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[06:15] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: frank_mc the info is in the restrictd formats wiki, discoverable at ubuntulinux.org via google
[06:15] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: dmesg
[06:16] <ron_42> bob2 I have tried OpenO presentation but the sound is grayed out
[06:17] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: no, that's not the log I'm looking for.  I want the actuall messages printed to console as it boots.  I can't read them fast enough
[06:17] <geetergod> can someone help me install Doom3 from the CD?
[06:17] <Razor-X> geetergod: what's the problem
[06:18] <geetergod> I just never installed from a CD yet
[06:18] <Razor-X> is it possible to create a UT live CD?
[06:18] <Razor-X> or, at least, keep a Windows copy of UT on CD?
[06:19] <arcticblue> a UT live CD...hmm
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> is there a log file where it stores the messages printed as ubuntu boots up?
[06:19] <rixth> When I try and install grub I get "grub-install /dev/sda1 *break* /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."<<<<>>>> But, /dev/sda1 is listed under fdisk -l
[06:19] <arcticblue> i don't think it would be that hard to have a stripped down custom knoppix that auto-launches UT
[06:19] <geetergod> I put in the Doom CD and i dont even know where to go from there
[06:19] <humbraro> tiglionabbit: try dmsg | less
[06:19] <Razor-X> I know there's a UT Demo live CD (gentoo)
[06:20] <EircB> doom3?
[06:20] <frank_mc> so where are the codecs to be found
[06:20] <Razor-X> arcticblue: what specs do you think it would need?
[06:20] <rixth> frank_mc, http://mplayer.hu
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> humbraro: no, I said that's not the log I'm looking for
[06:20] <humbraro> oops
[06:20] <frank_mc> ok mplayer sounds good
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> those messages are not the ones printed to console
[06:20] <humbraro> :)
[06:20] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: ctrl-alt-f1 doesnt do it?
[06:20] <rixth> Download the essential pack and extract it in ~/.gnome2/totem-addons (I think)
[06:20] <humbraro> just tuned in
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: nope.
[06:21] <Razor-X> why does everyone just have to have codecs?
[06:21] <Razor-X> ;)
[06:21] <Razor-X> use VLC, it's codec free!
[06:21] <arcticblue> Razor-X: as far as system specs or drivers and such?
[06:21] <frank_mc> tried that still only plays avi's
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: It appears to re-init that console part way through, so I can only scroll up a little bit
[06:21] <Razor-X> arcticblue: system specs
[06:21] <frank_mc> vlc?
[06:21] <arcticblue> Razor-X: and this is regular UT?
[06:21] <Razor-X> I may strip it down to just what I need, though
[06:21] <Razor-X> arcticblue: the original, with some mods
[06:22] <Razor-X> frank_mc: yes
[06:22] <arcticblue> Razor-X: i'd say at least 300Mhz, 64MB ram, and a cheap 3d accelerator will handle it.
[06:22] <transgress> anyone?  way to reconfigure sound in ubuntu?
[06:22] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: somewhere out there is a code snippet to enable scrolling in your terminal, AND a command to show you all that mess (i don't know the command)
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> there are a lot of versions of vlc available.  Which is best for ubuntu?
[06:22] <frank_mc> where do I find vlc?
[06:23] <Razor-X> and, by the w ay, does anyone have this chatroom logged in the last 6 hours?
[06:23] <geetergod> can someone walk me through it?
[06:23] <arcticblue> Razor-X: if you got some mods though...it might take up more than a CD so you may need a DVD
[06:23] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:23] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: I can scroll up with shift+page-up, but that doesn't help, as vterm 1 clears and starts over part way through the boot
[06:23] <arcticblue> Razor-X: i have a pretty good chuck of logs
[06:23] <nalioth> frank_mc: on the other end of an apt-get command
[06:23] <Razor-X> arcticblue: don't have a DVD writer ;)
[06:23] <Razor-X> arcticblue: ooh, nice!
[06:23] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: somewhere is the setting for how many lines stay in buffer
[06:24] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: it's not that either.  I can scroll much farther than this.  I'm telling you, it's not a scrolling issue
[06:24] <tiglionabbit> but I'm quite sure these things are logged somewhere
[06:25] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: then i'm out of help on this issue, but there is a command to regurgitate all that out to you
[06:25] <frank_mc> and I get  E: Couldn't find package vlc
[06:25] <frank_mc> like I get with everything I try to install
[06:26] <Razor-X> frank_mc: did you get the extra repositories?
[06:26] <Razor-X> *add
[06:26] <nalioth> frank_mc: have you googled "restricted formats" at site:ubuntulinux.org?
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> frank_mc: open your file /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the repositories (remove #s from before lines with 'deb' at the start )
[06:26] <humbraro> tiglionabbit: obviously, dmesg prints the kernel messages; if its the init messages you're looking for, you might need to edit the rc files to log somewhere
[06:27] <frank_mc> ya added that one but It complained that it was unable to add it
[06:27] <arcticblue> Razor-X: hope that's enough for you.  i don't know if it's six hours though
[06:27] <nalioth> frank_mc: you need to use the "sudo" command b4 you can edit it
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> frank_mc: that repository is down.  Add one of the alternatives I mentioned
[06:27] <nern> hey hey hey gang
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> frank_mc: by the way, you can do all of this easily in synaptic.  Try using it
[06:27] <nern> wow
[06:27] <geetergod> still could use instruction on how to install Doom3 from the CD :)
[06:27] <nern> i love totem
[06:28] <Razor-X> arcticblue: what timezone are you in?
[06:28] <tiglionabbit> backports mirrors: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[06:28] <geetergod> nern, you ever try xine?
[06:28] <arcticblue> Razor-X: pacific
[06:28] <Razor-X> oh, good
[06:28] <nern> geetergod: i use totem-xine
[06:28] <Varanger> please
[06:28] <geetergod> oh kool
[06:28] <Varanger> hi
[06:28] <Varanger> I have a Intel HD Audio
[06:28] <geetergod> you know how i can install Doom3 from the CD?
[06:28] <nern> I didnt realize until just a little while ago that i can take screenshots of what im playing with totem
[06:29] <nern> its so great
[06:29] <nern> yeah i could use some help installing a game too
[06:29] <nern> UT2004
[06:29] <Varanger> how can I make it work  RIGHT !!! I am using Hoary and Kernel linux-686-smp (2.6.10-5-696-smp)
[06:29] <nern> I see the linux-installer.sh file
[06:29] <nern> but it doesnt do anything when i double click on it
[06:29] <geetergod> i just dont know where to start, never installed from a CD before.
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> wow, vlc is awesome!
[06:30] <WhiteRabbit> sh /.linux-installer.sh
[06:30] <nalioth> nern: you have to start it from a terminal
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> I think I wanna ditch mplayer
[06:30] <nern> ok
[06:30] <arcticblue> what is vlc?
[06:30] <nern> like that?
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> arcticblue: it's a video player
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> media player I mean
[06:30] <WhiteRabbit> or just sh linux-installer.sh
[06:30] <geetergod> vlc is cool
[06:30] <nern> sh ./linux-installer.sh ?
[06:30] <WhiteRabbit> or ./linux-installer.sh
[06:30] <nern> vlc is pretty 1337
[06:30] <nern> ok
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> lol, I accidentally said VCL one time instead
[06:30] <nern> do i need to do it as root or no
[06:31] <nalioth> nern: if you initiate it as root, your whole system may be affected
[06:31] <WhiteRabbit> nern: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=40
[06:32] <Varanger> how can I make my Intel HD Audio work  RIGHT !!! I am using Hoary and Kernel linux-686-smp (2.6.10-5-696-smp)
[06:32] <WhiteRabbit> nern: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=31
[06:32] <WhiteRabbit> nern: also install openal
[06:32] <nalioth> Varanger: if someone knows, they will answer up
[06:33] <WhiteRabbit> nern: I install all games as root as you can make changes to the game via your /home/you/.ut2004 folder
[06:33] <Varanger> nalioth: thanks nalioth !
[06:34] <nern> WOOT
[06:34] <nern> its working
[06:34] <nern> nice
[06:36] <geetergod> Can anyone walk me through installing a game from a CD?
[06:37] <nern> they just told me how to
[06:37] <nern> it should work the same i assume
[06:37] <geetergod> how?
[06:37] <dr_willis> geetergod,  it depends a great deal on the game.
[06:37] <geetergod> it work for u?
[06:37] <tiglionabbit> yo, if I have the mplayer browser plugin and the vlc browser plugin at the same time, what will happen?
[06:37] <Razor-X> damn, I missed that hikaru person, and the PMs he sent to me are too far up
[06:37] <geetergod> its Doom3 dr_willis
[06:37] <Razor-X> I _really_ need to start enabling auto-logging in BitchX
[06:38] <dr_willis> geetergod,  i imagine theres a readme, on the cd's or ya can google for 'linux doom3 install'
[06:39] <frank_mc> getting there, I think
[06:40] <nern> fuck
[06:40] <nern> it didnt work
[06:40] <nern> it aborted
[06:40] <nern> saying it couldnt write a file or something
[06:40] <samuel> hello all
[06:40] <samuel> ok, im a little confused on the spu freq scaling options, what should i use for a pentium-m? powernowd, cpufreqd, or cpudyn?
[06:41] <frank_mc> vlc worked, thanks all!
[06:42] <geetergod> grr i cant find anything
[06:42] <frank_mc> apt-get install w32codecs
[06:42] <frank_mc> sorry wrong window
[06:42] <Razor-X> frank_mc: toldja!
[06:42] <Razor-X> you don't need w32codecs
[06:42] <Razor-X> there's no point
[06:43] <frank_mc> ok but I just wanted to see if I could get totem working
[06:43] <nern> you dont need the w32codecs if yer gonna use vlc
[06:43] <nalioth> frank_mc: but you do if you use anything else
[06:44] <frank_mc> ok, but I'm felling good now, gota see
[06:44] <frank_mc> I got the power
[06:45] <nern> i use totem
[06:45] <nern> totem-xine
[06:45] <nern> not totem-gsteamer
[06:46] <Anubis> how does one change whats in the "open with" dialogue?
[06:47] <frank_mc> got things going when I edited the sources.list file
[06:48] <nalioth> frank_mc: welcome to the universe (and multiverse)
[06:48] <nalioth> Anubis: "use othe program" and check the box "always open with" or something in that direction
[06:48] <Anubis> please?
[06:49] <frank_mc> I've tried a lot of flavors of linux but this is the best I've found yet
[06:49] <Anubis> nainot quite
[06:49] <paringas> hi, guys, id like to get involved with coding. how do i do it? i tried reading through the wiki but it seems a bit confusing.
[06:49] <geetergod> Can someone walk me through installing Doom3 from the CD?
[06:49] <Anubis> nalioth, not quite
[06:49] <JairunCaloth> I'm having problems getting fastwrites and SBA enabled on my Nvidia drivers
[06:49] <Anubis> rt. click a file
[06:50] <Anubis> open with
[06:50] <Anubis> then ther is a list
[06:50] <Anubis> that list
[06:50] <Anubis> how to change whats in it?
[06:50] <nalioth> Anubis: down at the bottom, adding a special proggy doenst add it to the list?
[06:50] <geetergod> Can someone walk me through installing Doom3 from the CD?
[06:50] <nalioth> Anubis: i don't know how to delete from the list
[06:50] <rixth> I'm unable to install either Ubuntu OR Debian on my new SATA drive, they both give them same error (installing off ISOs, not netinst) I get "No installable kernel found in defined APT sources" Wtf? I can install both Debian & Ubuntu on my PATA drive fine.
[06:51] <Anubis> nalioth, it does, but does,nt remove em once uninstalled
[06:51] <rixth> What's causing this error and hopw di I fix it?
[06:51] <Tomcat_> rixth: You probably need to load some SATA driver first... no idea how though.
[06:51] <nalioth> Anubis: i'm out of idears, then
[06:51] <leo_mx> i have a HP multifunctional printer...i got the drives for linux...i installed them...and now they are properly installed (as the Synaptic package manager says)....but i dont know how to make it work...i readed some websites about how doing it, but it doesnt work...and im sure my printer/scanner is supported becaus ethe device manager displays it in the list...
[06:51] <crimson-> i'm using a cardbus laptop card (the ones you plug in) as an ethernet port, as my laptop doesn't have one.  how can i configure a connection so that i can plug in the cable from my DSL modem into it?
[06:52] <rixth> Tomcat, no, it detects my dirve fine, and after it errors I go look at the contents of the dirve and it's put things in there.
[06:52] <Tomcat_> leo_mx: In synaptic, check out what files the driver installed... then try man <somefile> or just start something that looks promising.
[06:52] <Tomcat_> rixth: Weird. :I
[06:52] <leo_mx> thanx tomcat...lets see what can i do
[06:53] <Tomcat_> rixth: Maybe your CD is damaged... no idea.
[06:53] <rixth> Tomcat_, Google wasn't much help. Basically no results.
[06:54] <geetergod> can someone help me install Doom3 from the CD?
[06:55] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: you need to linux installer
[06:55] <Tomcat_> geetergod: You asked three times in 10 minutes... I guess not, sorry. ;)
[06:55] <geetergod> how do i use linux installer?
[06:55] <geetergod> my brother did it on his linux but isnt here, he doesnt really remember how either
[06:56] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[06:56] <caine_> what is a good cd burning prog for ubuntu?
[06:56] <WhiteRabbit> download that then sudo sh doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run with the doom 3 cd in the tray
[06:56] <WhiteRabbit> caine_: k3b
[06:57] <Tomcat_> caine_: Nautilus can also burn CDs and I'm quite happy with it. :o
[06:57] <caine_> WhiteRabbit: if i follow you will trinity meet me  lol
[06:57] <Tomcat_> o_O
[06:57] <crimson-> i'm using a cardbus laptop card (the ones you plug in) as an ethernet port, as my laptop doesn't have one.  how can i configure a connection so that i can plug in the cable from my DSL modem into it?
[06:57] <WhiteRabbit> caine_: you think the matrix came up with the name WhiteRabbit...
[06:57] <caine_> its a joke but you got it lol
[06:57] <WhiteRabbit> I would have smiled with a jefferson airplane poke even though thats not the reason as well
[06:58] <Tomcat_> crimson-: Try ppp<tab>... there's some installer for DSL stuff.
[06:58] <geetergod> WhiteRabbit: i dont understand whats on this link you sent me?
[06:58] <WhiteRabbit> but the matrix is so 1 year ago hah
[06:58] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: thats the linux installer to install doom3 off your cd
[06:58] <caine_> im sorry i found it quite funny but ok lol
[06:58] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[06:58] <WhiteRabbit> or curl it
[06:58] <geetergod> so what do i do with this page though?
[06:58] <leo_mx> i think my problem is with the "ptal-init setup" command...the first time i runned it it made me some questions like the IP od the device (hp printer) and i didnt know it..so i just click enter,etc...and not when i try running this command again..it displays some info like "currently defined device names..." -"none"....what could i do?
[06:59] <geetergod> am i sposed to go through the terminal with it?
[06:59] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: ya download that file & follow the instructions
[06:59] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: you ever downloaded a file Im sure you have
[06:59] <WhiteRabbit> just download it
[06:59] <geetergod> it just shows a bunch of commands and stuff
[06:59] <WhiteRabbit> ah
[06:59] <crimson-> Tomcat_: ppp<tab>? sorry you're talking to a newbie, i just started trying out distros yesterday
[06:59] <WhiteRabbit> pop a term then
[06:59] <WhiteRabbit> & type wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[07:00] <WhiteRabbit> wget is a downloader
[07:00] <WhiteRabbit> what ever dir your in when you issue wget is were the file will go
[07:01] <wdh_> crimson-, try System -> Administration -> Networking
[07:01] <crimson-> thx
[07:01] <Tomcat_> Mh... that would be another way. :)
[07:01] <nalioth> wget is da shizzle
[07:02] <geetergod> is this just a demo tho?
[07:02] <tiglionabbit> hey guys.  What's the difference between `apt-get upgrade` and `apt-get dist-upgrade` ?
[07:02] <Tomcat_> But does Ubuntu networking support dsl? :o
[07:02] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: thats the installer for the retail cd
[07:02] <geetergod> ok sweet
[07:02] <Tomcat_> tiglionabbit: The first will only update existing packages, the second one will also resolve dependencies.
[07:02] <wdh_> Tomcat_, more n00b-friendly maybe..
[07:02] <tiglionabbit> also resolve dependencies-- what does that mean to happen differently?
[07:03] <wdh_> tiglionabbit, rtfm
[07:03] <nalioth> Tomcat_: shouldnt your installed pkgs already be dependency fixed?
[07:03] <geetergod> the file name is 'doom3-linux-1.1.1282-demo.x86.run' that correct?
[07:03] <tiglionabbit> wdh_: I did, but I don't quite get it
[07:03] <wdh_> tiglionabbit, ok, sorry then..
[07:03] <Tomcat_> tiglionabbit: The second one is necessary if an updated package has different dependencies than the old one... then dist-upgrade will install the dependency packages as well.
[07:03] <tiglionabbit> oh
[07:03] <tiglionabbit> I see
[07:03] <Tomcat_> nalioth: Of course, but when the server has an updated package with new deps... :P
[07:03] <nalioth> thx, tomcat
[07:03] <tiglionabbit> so dist-upgrade is the advisable option?
[07:04] <bur[n] er_> anyone use xterminal or Terminal from the xfce guys??
[07:04] <nalioth> nighty night
[07:04] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[07:04] <Tomcat_> tiglionabbit: If you want to have a clean system like I do, use apt-get upgrade and when it tells you it "keeps back" a package, use dist-upgrade and check out the new deps...
[07:04] <WhiteRabbit> doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run not doom3-linux-1.1.1282-demo.x86.run <--- thats the demo & its like 400 megs or so lol
[07:05] <geetergod> that link u sent me doesnt have anything to install...
[07:05] <Tomcat_> tiglionabbit: But yes, dist-upgrade will always work correctly where just "upgrade" might keep packages at an old version because deps can't be installed.
[07:05] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: dont install it tonite wait til the morning!
[07:05] <WhiteRabbit> that is just the installer its not the full game
[07:06] <WhiteRabbit> if you dont own the retail cd then you cant install jack.
[07:06] <geetergod> i own the retail cd
[07:06] <WhiteRabbit> sh doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[07:06] <WhiteRabbit> that will start the installer
[07:06] <tiglionabbit> alright.  At first when I read dist-upgrade I thought it meant it would allow grabbing packages marked for a different distro, and perhaps break the dependencies..   but that's just paranoia, never mind
[07:08] <geetergod> ok its installing
[07:09] <wdh> tiglionabbit, it will do that also.. but only if you have newer sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:10] <geetergod> what should i type in terminal to start doom3?
[07:10] <crimsun_> doom3
[07:10] <geetergod> says command not found
[07:10] <geetergod> it said installation complete and everything
[07:10] <caine_> how do i set up evolution to work with my yahoo email?
[07:11] <caine_> ???
[07:11] <TheMuso> Hey all. I have set up Ubuntu Hoary on my system using Software RAID, using my motherboard's on-board Promise controller, one drive plugged into a SATA port, and the other into the PATA port for that controller. All is installed with no problems, however DMA doesn't seem to work for my CD-ROM drive, or another drive that I have plugged into the standard IDE ports on my motherboard. Windows and the BIOS reports that all drives are, and
[07:12] <geetergod> WhiteRabbit: it installed, now what?
[07:12] <tiglionabbit> TheMuso: cut off after "all drives are, and"
[07:12] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: issue the start cmd to start the game if you wanna play it
[07:12] <geetergod> i dont know the start cmd thats the prob
[07:13] <neighborlee> has there been an resolution to the gnome-panel crashing  ?..just wondering as I dont think I saw as much of it in kubuntu ( crashing as in )
[07:13] <WhiteRabbit> doom3
[07:13] <TheMuso> tiglionabbit: ?
[07:13] <caine_> how do i set up evolution to work with my yahoo email?
[07:13] <WhiteRabbit> type doo then hit tab
[07:13] <WhiteRabbit> tab is our friend & pal
[07:13] <katzor> TheMuso, try what 'hdparm /dev/device' says
[07:13] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ doom3
[07:13] <geetergod> bash: doom3: command not found
[07:14] <NicP> ok guys i need a favor, a mate has designed a new pair of shoes and it would be greatly appriciated if you could vote for them
[07:14] <NicP> www.sneakerfreaker.com
[07:14] <shido> ok
[07:14] <NicP> all you have to do is click a couple of things
[07:14] <shido> I have officially blew away my entire drive and replaced XP with ubuntu
[07:14] <NicP> me too shido :D
[07:14] <shido> where do I set the 0's and 1's after the usb module
[07:14] <geetergod> me too shido
[07:14] <shido> for sound
[07:14] <shido> and can I do this dynamically
[07:15] <shido> i just installed fglrx for my radeon - got my resolution going again
[07:15] <shido> forgot where to set the sound
[07:15] <thenostradamus> has anyone tried installing limewire on the amd64 ubuntu?
[07:15] <shido> I need to set the hdparm or whatever the command was for the dma fix
[07:15] <katzor> /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:16] <WhiteRabbit> geetergod: should of read what the start cmd was
[07:16] <WhiteRabbit> at least its installed now all you gotta do is locate that cmd to start it hm
[07:16] <Anubis>  The items in this submenu correspond to the contents of the following parts of the File Types and Programs preference tool:
[07:16] <TheMuso> katzor: What specifically am I looking for?
[07:16] <geetergod> im in the readme looking
[07:16] <Anubis> this tool is where?
[07:16] <katzor> a line that says sth with dma
[07:16] <WhiteRabbit> /usr/bin <-- would be a nice place to look, Look at the entrys starting with the char of d
[07:16] <katzor> using_dma
[07:16] <crimsun_> shido: what sound cards do you have, and which do you want to be primary?
[07:17] <TheMuso> katzor: It says 0.
[07:17] <Anubis> In the view pane, select the file that you want to perform an action on. Choose File  Open With. The Open With submenu opens. The items in this submenu correspond to the contents of the following parts of the File Types and Programs preference tool:
[07:17] <katzor> allright
[07:17] <TheMuso> katzor: I know this drive can do DMA, and when I run the LIVE CD, it does use DMA.
[07:17] <katzor> TheMuso, do sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:17] <katzor> and simply tell it to
[07:17] <TheMuso> katzor: Already done that.
[07:17] <geetergod> i can find the file in /home/geetergod/doom3/
[07:18] <TheMuso> The message I get when trying to activate DMA is HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted.
[07:18] <katzor> TheMuso,  mine has sth like /dev/hdb {	dma = on}
[07:18] <caine_> how do i set up evolution to work with my yahoo email?
[07:19] <crimsun_> caine_: search the forums
[07:20] <shido> ok, am I an idiot? I just set
[07:20] <shido> command_line {
[07:20] <shido> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
[07:20] <shido> }
[07:20] <shido> command_line {
[07:20] <shido> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[07:20] <shido> }
[07:20] <katzor> TheMuso, do you run it as root?
[07:20] <TheMuso> katzor: Yes.
[07:20] <shido> crimson-, I have 2
[07:21] <shido> crimson, I have usb 5.1 headphones
[07:21] <shido> and soundmax 5.1
[07:21] <shido> I want the usb to be primary
[07:21] <crimsun_> then just leave the usb plugged in when you boot
[07:21] <shido> where do I set that - I believe I put 0 after usb or something
[07:21] <katzor> TheMuso, hmm...dunno what that is, the drive is IDE right?
[07:21] <shido> in some fil
[07:21] <shido> e
[07:21] <crimsun_> shido: are you always going to use the usb as primary?
[07:21] <TheMuso> katzor: Yes. As I said earlier, it works with DMA when the LIVE CD is running.
[07:22] <TheMuso> katzor: The same thing happens with my CD-ROM drive.
[07:22] <geetergod> whats the file type im looking for to run Doom Whiterabbit?
[07:22] <shido> crimson-, no I will not always use it as primary , I play movies out through the tv and want to use the onboard soundmax 5.1 when I do that but in the meantime I want to use my usb headphones , I would also like to know how to switch back and forth
[07:22] <katzor> TheMuso, hm, sorry , i cant help there
[07:22] <crimsun_> shido: then it's best to not edit any files
[07:23] <katzor> TheMuso, file a bug if you want to
[07:23] <TheMuso> katzor: Thanks anyway, will go to mailing list.
[07:23] <crimsun_> shido: just leave the usb headphones plugged in during boot if you want to use them as primary
[07:23] <katzor> do that
[07:24] <katzor> is wxgtk 2.6 in breezy ??
[07:24] <crimsun_> katzor: no
[07:24] <geetergod> WhiteRabbit: shouldnt it have saved someplace under Applications?
[07:25] <crimsun_> katzor: when it enters Debian, I'll ask for a sync
[07:25] <crimsun_> katzor: but the Debian maintainer has not approved the current state for Debian, thus no package
[07:26] <LiquidGUI> hey, I just need to know something quick, I am about ot download Ubuntu (I am switching) and I was wondering, I have an AMD64, should I get the AMD64 CD or should I go for the i386
[07:26] <thenostradamus> amd64
[07:27] <katzor> crimson-, i guess its a C++4 mess
[07:27] <LiquidGUI> will I be able to run all i386 packages still
[07:27] <crimsun_> katzor: among other things
[07:27] <bob2> LiquidGUI: either one
[07:27] <katzor> k
[07:27] <bob2> LiquidGUI: amd64 will be "faster", but you can't (easily) run proprietary stuff on it
[07:27] <geetergod> I just installed Doom3 and i have the retail CD, where do i go to play it?
[07:27] <LiquidGUI> well I think I will go for i386 then
[07:27] <bob2> e.g. windows dlls in mplayer, programs with wine, proprietary linux programs
[07:27] <transgress> yeah such as i don't have flash on my amd64 lappy
[07:28] <LiquidGUI> Thanks for your help (goes to download DVD)
[07:28] <bob2> I don't have flash on my i386 laptop, either, since it makes firefox so unstable
[07:28] <transgress> but it doesn't change that i prefer to use it
[07:28] <transgress> hmm i haven't had much problem with flash and ff...
[07:29] <bob2> I have bad like with proprietary stuff. the nvidia binary drivers used to hard lock my desktop.
[07:29] <LiquidGUI> does ubuntu have good support for cameras?
[07:30] <bob2> digital ones? yes.
[07:30] <bob2> mostly, plug it in and it will offer to import the pictures for you
[07:30] <LiquidGUI> K, that was really important to me
[07:31] <LiquidGUI> also, iPod support (w/ gtkpod I am assuming) at all?
[07:31] <geetergod> hey ShudderTrix
[07:31] <bob2> gtkpod is available, yeah
[07:31] <wdh> in holland that is
[07:33] <LiquidGUI> Judging by the topic, I should not get breezy correct :P
[07:33] <Madpilot> LiquidGUI: you'd be amazed how many ppl don't get that hint in the topic... :p
[07:33] <LiquidGUI> I assume Hoary would be the best choice then?
[07:34] <wdh> LiquidGUI, yes
[07:34] <wdh> unless you like something very unstable :)
[07:34] <wdh> or are in a way masochistic
[07:34] <LiquidGUI> Alright, thanks you guys, I ran slackware for a while, was a pain in the ass
[07:34] <LiquidGUI> so I figured I would give Ubuntu a go
[07:34] <LiquidGUI> Good reviews all around
[07:36] <LiquidGUI> Thanks you guys, once again
[07:36] <drummer87> hi all, anyone here used enlightenment??
[07:36] <wdh> drummer87, tried it once or twice
[07:36] <K_Dallas> i did for a very short period of time
[07:36] <r2d4> hi
[07:37] <drummer87> is it any good?
[07:37] <r2d4> (fvwm)
[07:37] <K_Dallas> i dont see why i use something minimalistic and not use ION3!
[07:37] <wdh> drummer87, if you like eyecandy especially ;)
[07:37] <wdh> drummer87, but otherwise, its quite nice
[07:37] <drummer87> well... all i really want from it is the dock it has (engage) :)
[07:37] <wdh> *also
[07:38] <drummer87> could i run engage in gnome if i installed e16 from apt?
[07:38] <K_Dallas> drummer87, have a look at ion3! no dock no nothing
[07:38] <wdh> drummer87, i believe its possible to run it in gnome..
[07:38] <drummer87> sweeet
[07:39] <Tezkah> XFCE is awesome.
[07:39] <ElBarono> enlightenment is cool if you want to use something 5 years old
[07:39] <K_Dallas> naaaaaaaaaah :) awesome is too much for it
[07:39] <r2d4> hehe
[07:39] <r2d4> xfce > gnome > kde
[07:39] <geetergod> If i just installed Doom3 why cant i find a way to play it?
[07:39] <K_Dallas> ion1 > ion2 > ion3
[07:39] <K_Dallas> :):):)
[07:40] <geetergod> it says i need to do 'doom3' in terminal, but it said command not found
[07:40] <wdh> (/startingflamewar)
[07:40] <Tezkah> I like lots of different WMs
[07:40] <Tezkah> even icewm
[07:40] <transgress> geetergod:  locate doom3
[07:40] <drummer87> ion looks good... but i like a bit of eyecandy
[07:40] <drummer87> :)
[07:40] <K_Dallas> :):)
[07:40] <geetergod> its in home/geetergod/doom3...
[07:40] <K_Dallas> ion is just the barenaked lady
[07:40] <r2d4> console > xfce
[07:41] <geetergod> but i cant figure out how to play it
[07:41] <wdh> geetergod, just find the executable..
[07:41] <wdh> and type that in the terminal with full path
[07:42] <wdh> s/that/its name
[07:43] <JohnFights> is there a way to get gkt apps to look more like kde ones when kde?
[07:43] <geetergod> hmm i cant find the .exe file
[07:44] <r2d4> geetergod-_- $doom3
[07:44] <geetergod> whats the r2d4?
[07:44] <geetergod> that*
[07:44] <wdh> geetergod, how long since you left windows again?
[07:44] <rideout> JohnFights: apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[07:44] <geetergod> couple days ago
[07:45] <r2d4> r2d2 -> r2d3 -> r2d4
[07:45] <geetergod> no i mean whats '$doom3'?
[07:45] <r2d4> $doom3 <- run?
[07:46] <JohnFights> ok i tried that but have a small problem when in gnome they look like kde is there a way to have it so when in gnome it looks like it should and look okay when in kde
[07:46] <Myrtti> I wonder what has happened to my rhythmbox
[07:46] <geetergod> it didnt do anything
[07:46] <thenostradamus> kde rocks
[07:46] <Myrtti> it just dies
[07:46] <thenostradamus> :-)
[07:46] <r2d4> geetergod-_- RTFM
[07:48] <geetergod> now you're confusing me
[07:49] <r2d4> geetergod-_- sorry about that ^0^
[07:49] <geetergod> just seems weird, seems like 'doom3' should just start the game
[07:49] <geetergod> everything looks to be installed and there
[07:49] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: run the installer as root
[07:50] <geetergod> ok
[07:50] <rideout> anybody know how to mount a mac cdrom? I tried mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0/ and -t iso9660, but neither work (neither does pmount)
[07:50] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: then, you can start it up with just a plain old "doom3"
[07:50] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: also, RTFM (nice) = read the freaking manual
[07:51] <geetergod> lol
[07:51] <r2d4> read the fine manual
[07:51] <Shuddertrix> r2d4: manuals are not fine..
[07:51] <r2d4> (google manuals)
[07:52] <Shuddertrix> LiveManuals
[07:52] <Tezkah> oddly enough, XFCE flashes the taskbar when GNOME wont...
[07:52] <Shuddertrix> See, manuals are live.
[07:52] <JohnFights> is there anyway to run outlook 2003 in linux?
[07:53] <Myrtti> why
[07:53] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: Try Crossover office. But I doubt that 2003 works, probably XP or 2000 will.
[07:53] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: Even then, learn to use the other mail clients
[07:53] <thenostradamus> thunderbird
[07:54] <Shuddertrix> thunderbird, mozilla-mail, pine, kmail, etc.
[07:54] <Myrtti> or evolution, if you prefer masochism
[07:54] <Shuddertrix> yeah
[07:54] <xtreme> i recently tried to re-install ubuntu... and now duting the installation routine, it gives me error messages when it tries to partition my HD, and this is the second time this is happening when re-installing ubuntu on 2 diff HD's (im now on live cd).... anybody know this problem ?
[07:55] <JohnFights> i tried all those none have the features i use alot in outlook
[07:55] <xtreme> (it wont finish formatting partitions in ext3, resierfs, and all other fs's)
[07:55] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: What "features"?
[07:55] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: Wait, Outlook has features?
[07:55] <thenostradamus> hahahhahaha
[07:56] <thenostradamus> lmao @ shudder
[07:57] <JohnFights> lol this why people dont like linux  people ccome for help and get microsoft bashing
[07:57] <ZeroTrace> yeah... outlook's primary feature is it's ability to be a carrier for virii no matter what you do to stop it
[07:57] <r2d4> m$ bash?
[07:57] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: Sorry, it's just natural for me
[07:57] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: I bash Outlook, nothing else.
[07:57] <kakalto> it's natural for most of us :P
[07:57] <Shuddertrix> Word is OK, Windows is OK, i'm fine with IE..
[07:57] <thenostradamus> yep, tell us a "feature"
[07:57] <K_Dallas> if your company does not force you to use outlook, i wonder why you would use it?
[07:57] <Shuddertrix> Just lookOut
[07:57] <thenostradamus> and we'll let u know
[07:58] <Morten^Toft> finde with IE ????
[07:58] <Morten^Toft> fine*
[07:58] <ZeroTrace> i could never be fine with IE
[07:58] <JohnFights> i have never got a virus on any windows computer
[07:58] <JohnFights> or any computer of mine for that matter
[07:58] <r2d4> what's IE?
[07:58] <K_Dallas> the guy surfs once in a blue moon
[07:58] <Morten^Toft> Internet Explore
[07:58] <geetergod> shouldnt 'sudo apt-get install doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run
[07:58] <geetergod> ' start the install with root?
[07:58] <Shuddertrix> I used it once.
[07:58] <Shuddertrix> Once.
[07:58] <r2d4> sounds like a craps
[07:58] <Shuddertrix> To go to mozilla.org XD
[07:58] <Morten^Toft> heh
[07:59] <geetergod> Shuddertrix, should that do it?
[07:59] <Morten^Toft> my windows disk comes with firefox installed
[07:59] <Myrtti> dammit dammit dammit dammit
[07:59] <Shuddertrix> Actually, i have it installed in cedega for work purposes. I hate that executable with a passion.
[07:59] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: Yes.
[08:00] <geetergod> almost starts it then says command not found
[08:00] <JohnFights> the reading panel in outlook is nice only thing that has it is thunderbird but its not as nice in thunderbird
[08:00] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: If you use it like a personal information manager, the best i've seen is Kontact, not sure if there is a GTK-based one or not..
[08:00] <Shuddertrix> reading panel?
[08:00] <ZeroTrace> that's my biggest problem with Thunderbird... it doesn't do PIM
[08:00] <jorgp> I just installed ubuntu and I have no sound, mixer channels are not muted and volumns are up and sound modules are loaded
[08:00] <Shuddertrix> ZeroTrace: Yeah, same here..
[08:00] <xtreme> im thinking maybe its somethign to do with my MBR ?
[08:01] <JohnFights> yes the message preview set to the right side
[08:01] <ZeroTrace> Sunbird isn't even close to ready either
[08:01] <Shuddertrix> ZeroTrace: I just use the KDE apps now though
[08:01] <geetergod> says reading package lists... done and building dependancy tree... done, then command not found
[08:01] <ZeroTrace> my problem is that I like Gnome apps, but KDE has more apps because it's been around longer
[08:02] <Shuddertrix> Yeah, exactly
[08:02] <ZeroTrace> and on my laptop, disk space is at a premium so i really try to pick one or the other
[08:02] <mlambie> so, is it safe to use breezy in a server environment? ;)
[08:02] <ZeroTrace> mlambie: if the topic of this channel is any indication, no
[08:02] <mlambie> ZeroTrace: exactly :)
[08:02] <Shuddertrix> mlambie: Do you like suicide, being eletricuted, screaming at the top of your lungs, bashing your head against your keyboard, or perhaps all of the above?
[08:02] <mlambie> I thought it was a funny topic
[08:03] <xtreme> is there anyway to wipe out my mbr from a terminal ?, and should i do it?
[08:03] <Shuddertrix> I think you see the point ;)
[08:03] <ZeroTrace> Shuddertrix: i've known people that have done all three in a single day
[08:03] <ZeroTrace> Shuddertrix: you left out falling through an open hole in a raised floor
[08:03] <JohnFights> i can find most of the stuff i want  from outlook in linux mail apps only problem is the stuff i like about the is spread out between all the different programs
[08:04] <Myrtti> oh wow
[08:04] <Shuddertrix> ZeroTrace: Ooops.
[08:04] <Myrtti> I managed to get XMMS working
[08:04] <geetergod> grr this is drivin me nuts
[08:04] <transgress> hey where is the modules blacklist?
[08:05] <ZeroTrace> so... i'm about to install Ubuntu for my first time since somewhere around version 2... anything i should know?
[08:05] <transgress> nm i found it
[08:05] <JohnFights> does anyone know if photoshop cs runs crossover office
[08:05] <KarlosII> ZeroTrace, around version 2?
[08:05] <KarlosII> use 5.04
[08:05] <desplesda> ubuntu had a version 2?
[08:05] <desplesda> that's news to me
[08:06] <JohnFights> i thought 4.10 was the first version
[08:06] <tiglionabbit> me too, what were the other versions called then?
[08:06] <linukso> Hi! I can't connect to anything with evolution! The network is ok, otherwise I wouldn't be talking here...  Where do I get my repos?
[08:07] <JohnFights> whats a good program for rss feeds
[08:07] <Tyche> What is the best and easiest email software to use?
[08:07] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: Firefox, akregrator
[08:07] <HelpPlz> can anyone answer my question about partitioning?
[08:07] <Nic> i use liferea JohnFights
[08:07] <Tyche> for the server side...sorry
[08:07] <ram_einstein> joh, thunderbird
[08:08] <ram_einstein> Tyche, thunderbird or evolution
[08:08] <Nic> Tyche, thunderbird :)
[08:08] <ram_einstein> dependingon usage
[08:08] <xtreme> i recently tried to re-install ubuntu... and now duting the installation routine, it gives me error messages when it tries to partition my HD, and this is the second time this is happening when re-installing ubuntu on 2 diff HD's (im now on live cd)....
[08:08] <xtreme> (it wont finish formatting partitions in ext3, resierfs, and all other fs's)
[08:08] <ram_einstein> HelpPlz, ask
[08:08] <Shuddertrix> Tyche: I usually use exim, although hula is starting to come along nicely if you're into a good-looking gmail clone ;)
[08:09] <ubermonzie> hi all
[08:09] <HelpPlz> i have 27 gigs to install ubuntu, what partitions and what size should i make them?
[08:09] <JohnFights> going to try lifrea :)
[08:10] <transgress> HelpPlz: make a partition for boot... which is just about... iuno... 30 megs would be plenty... and then at least one for /... if you want to you can do one for home... and depending on if you put in large stuff into your home make it as big as you think you will ned
[08:10] <Shuddertrix> JohnFights: Too good for akregrator, then?
[08:10] <Shuddertrix> Just because it comes with KDE, hmm?
[08:10] <Shuddertrix> :P
[08:10] <JohnFights> thats next lol
[08:10] <ZeroTrace> JohnFights: i'm not sure that it was version 2.. only that it was a while ago right after it first came out
[08:10] <ubermonzie> dear HelpPlz , make a boot partition of 100M, swap 256-512M and the rest you can leave for /
[08:10] <xtreme> i dont get why i cant format my partitions using the ubuntu installer, but i can using command line here on the liveCD
[08:11] <HelpPlz> ubermonzie: hmm thanks mate
[08:11] <ubermonzie> you can ,  xtreme .. select manual partitioning
[08:11] <xtreme> i do that... but when i put "write changes to disk"... it ALWAYS gives me an error
[08:11] <xtreme> (wont complete the format process)
[08:11] <ubermonzie> you can make a /home of 1-3 Gigs if you want HelpPlz
[08:12] <transgress> i usually just do /boot and / on my systems
[08:12] <HelpPlz> i have 27 gigs to put into unbuntu
[08:12] <sevets> hello
[08:12] <transgress> that way i can just lvm / and leave boot alone
[08:12] <ubermonzie> that ways you can preserve your files if you want to change the Linux you want to use
[08:12] <HelpPlz> does swap really matter?
[08:12] <ubermonzie> Yes, swap is ESSENTIAL. HelpPlz
[08:12] <transgress> yes
[08:12] <sevets> Could anyone tell me how to download dependencies when using apt-get?
[08:12] <HelpPlz> dont you calculate how much swap you need with the amount of ram you got?
[08:12] <paulproteus> sevets: They come in automatically.
[08:13] <JohnFights> is there a way to get the auto update to load when kde starts?
[08:13] <paulproteus> sevets: apt-get install program
[08:13] <xtreme> i tried installing windows on the same drive adn it works.... but when i try ti install ubuntu, i cant format the partitions, so it never skips that step onto the next one durint the install.
[08:13] <paulproteus> That will get program and any dependencies.
[08:13] <paulproteus> I'm moutta here to sleep now.
[08:13] <ram_einstein> hey, I badly need some repos
[08:13] <ram_einstein> where do I get them?
[08:13] <Danko3> which ones?  HelpPlz . but i guess 512 MB is more than enough,, i supppose you have 256MB ram or morw
[08:13] <ram_einstein> I'm new to ubuntu
[08:13] <Danko3> :-p
[08:13] <Danko3> you type fast, tho.
[08:13] <r2d4> me too
[08:13] <ram_einstein> Dan, some basic repos
[08:14] <sevets> paulproteus: it seems like it is saying that I am unable to download the dependencies then
[08:14] <Danko3> wanna learn something new btw?
[08:14] <r2d4> *forever*
[08:14] <ram_einstein> some decent repos
[08:14] <ram_einstein> I can't install anything!
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:14] <HelpPlz> i might be installing games as well
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[08:14] <ram_einstein> as soon as ubuntu is installed
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main
[08:14] <HelpPlz> should i make a partition for games?
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main
[08:14] <Danko3> www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list
[08:14] <ubermonzie> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[08:14] <ubermonzie> just make sure you have all the above lines, ram_einstein
[08:14] <ram_einstein> my god!
[08:14] <ubermonzie> that should do it
[08:14] <ram_einstein> wait
[08:14] <Danko3> please dont paste, monzie, I know you wanna help;)
[08:15] <HelpPlz> should i make a partition for games?
[08:15] <Danko3> ram_einstein: that page has good sources.list, that is the repos, do you know what to do with them, ram_einstein?
[08:15] <ubermonzie> sorry, i thought a user might find it more convinient to copy and paste from here Danko3
[08:15] <ram_einstein> which page Danko3
[08:15] <ram_einstein> no I know yum
[08:15] <ram_einstein> /etc/yum.repos
[08:15] <sevets> paulproteus: can you tell me a way to get  vlc?
[08:15] <ram_einstein> but nothing about apt
[08:15] <Danko3> ubermonzie: I know, dont worry, check this soite out, http://pastebin.com
[08:16] <Danko3> ram_einstein: are you using Ubuntu?
[08:16] <ubermonzie> By the way, are there any Ubuntu developers in this room now..
[08:16] <ram_einstein> yes Danko3
[08:16] <ubermonzie> i need to talk,,
[08:16] <ram_einstein> I'msorry ubermonzie, but what youpasted is way to scattered
[08:16] <ram_einstein> mind pastebin?
[08:17] <bur[n] er> sevets: synaptic
[08:17] <ram_einstein> and giving me a bit of instructions?
[08:17] <ubermonzie> wait ... let me open a seperate chat window and give you the lines
[08:17] <sevets> bur[n] er: what is synaptic?
[08:17] <p07r0457> graphical package manager
[08:17] <sevets> amazing
[08:18] <Danko3> ram_einstein: check this out... you open a terminal, and type in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to open and edit the file with the list of repositories, then you look at the page I posted, and erase what you have in your file, and replace it what that link shows...then you save, and close gedit(editor) then in the same terminal, you type in sudo aptitude update and you are good. then you can sudo aptitude packageName when you want to
[08:19] <ram_einstein> Danko3, which link!?
[08:19] <p07r0457> okay, I have a problem with my repositorys
[08:19] <p07r0457> hoping someone can lend a hand
[08:19] <p07r0457> I did the unofficial ubuntu guide thingy
[08:20] <p07r0457> but I can't get apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 to go
[08:20] <p07r0457> says it can't find that package
[08:20] <Danko3> Now I g2g, and if you have more questions, please dont listen to ubermonzie's advice, he needs to learn more before he can give advice.... glad to have you tho, ubermonzie. As well, as a good read on repositories, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto ...... It is above, please scroll up, or I gues I could type, www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list
[08:20] <ram_einstein> thanks Danko3
[08:20] <ram_einstein> bye
[08:20] <sevets> after downloading synaptic how do I install it?
[08:20] <p07r0457> should already be installed
[08:20] <p07r0457> is it a .deb file?
[08:20] <sevets> yes
[08:21] <p07r0457> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:21] <sevets> thankya
[08:21] <Danko3> HelpPlz: you should use the default partitioning if you are installing on a whole hard drive, unless you know what you should do, and you should do what you need to do, and if you dont know about something, then you dont need it, pretty much.
[08:21] <linukso> Hmmm, I can connect to my imap server with mutt, but not evolution. Any ideas anyone?
[08:21] <transgress> hey does anyone know what package snd_emu10k1 is in?
[08:21] <Danko3> sevets: please read the above mentioned wiki link, about repositories to learn about synaptic, it is built uin, you dont install that...
[08:22] <p07r0457> transgress > alsa, isn't it?
[08:22] <transgress> yeah that's what i thought, but for some reason my friend's sound blaster isn't starting up and those drivers aren't htere
[08:22] <p07r0457> anyone know what repository I have to add to get sun-j2re1.5?
[08:22] <transgress> there
[08:22] <p07r0457> I've tried the ones posted here a minute ago
[08:22] <ubermonzie> Danko3, the repositories i told ram_einstein were enought to do the job..
[08:22] <p07r0457> I've also tried ubuntuguide.org
[08:23] <ubermonzie> what exactly do you want p07r0457 ?
[08:23] <sevets> hmm thanks danko3
[08:23] <transgress> p07r0457: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[08:23] <HelpPlz> Danko3: I got one big hard drive with windows and linux
[08:23] <p07r0457> sun-j2re1.5
[08:23] <ubermonzie> Do auto matic partitioning HelpPlz
[08:24] <HelpPlz> might delete windows
[08:24] <HelpPlz> i dont trust it anyway
[08:24] <transgress> p07r0457: it's on that page
[08:24] <p07r0457> doesn't work for me
[08:24] <HelpPlz> im off installing, but im not sure about the game partition
[08:24] <transgress> how so?
[08:24] <ubermonzie> if you want to keep windows, you have to do manual...
[08:24] <p07r0457> p07r0457@P07r0457:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[08:24] <p07r0457> Reading package lists... Done
[08:24] <p07r0457> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:24] <p07r0457> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[08:24] <transgress> give details
[08:24] <HelpPlz> anyway bye
[08:24] <transgress> did you sudo apt-get update after you added the repo?
[08:24] <p07r0457> yep
[08:24] <JohnFights> what would i delete to get my gnome to start again. something is wrong and gnome wont load on one of my accounts
[08:24] <ubermonzie> you have to get your repos rifht p07r0457
[08:25] <transgress> p07r0457: try 1.5.0
[08:25] <p07r0457> did the ones posted here a minute ago, and I had the ones at ubuntuguide.org before that
[08:25] <p07r0457> just tried 1.5.0, no go
[08:25] <ubermonzie> search for j2re in synaptic, if you have it installed,
[08:25] <p07r0457> forgive the paste here.... but this is my sources.list file:
[08:25] <p07r0457> #
[08:25] <p07r0457> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[08:25] <p07r0457> #
[08:25] <p07r0457> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[08:25] <p07r0457> #
[08:25] <p07r0457> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[08:25] <p07r0457> #
[08:25] <ubermonzie> should work without a hitch
[08:25] <p07r0457>
[08:25] <p07r0457> #
[08:25] <Danko3> ubermonzie: ok, well let me tell you what was completely wrong about them, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main .... and he would likely end up with a broken apt-get system, for a while.. now let me tell you all, just a friendly advice keep in mind... please do not post answers to questions you are not fairly certain you know what to do with, since you are actually making it worse by getting the question offe the scree
[08:25] <p07r0457> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[08:25] <p07r0457> #
[08:25] <p07r0457> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[08:26] <p07r0457> #
[08:26] <p07r0457> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[08:26] <p07r0457> #
[08:26] <p07r0457>
[08:26] <p07r0457> #
[08:26] <p07r0457> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[08:26] <transgress> p07r0457: it's called a fucking pastebin
[08:26] <Danko3> p07r0457: please paste to a pastebin, and paste the URL to the channel....
[08:26] <Danko3> http://pastebin.com
[08:26] <Danko3> im off.
[08:26] <Danko3> good luck!
[08:27] <p07r0457> sorry
[08:27] <p07r0457> any ideas?
[08:27] <transgress> well in case you missed it... search j2re in synaptic
[08:27] <ubermonzie> dear Danko3  i use the above lines, and nothing is broken
[08:28] <p07r0457> not in synaptic
[08:28] <transgress> then the java repo isn't in synapticv
[08:28] <transgress> err in your sources
[08:28] <ubermonzie> and ram_einstein just told me he got his job done
[08:28] <ubermonzie> why dont you peole try sun.java.com
[08:28] <transgress> because the repo will work better
[08:28] <geetergod> can someone tell me whats wrong when i try to start doom3 i get this...http://pastebin.com/293133
[08:28] <p07r0457> because java isn't the only package not found :rolleyes:
[08:29] <p07r0457> and the point of apt-get is to be useful
[08:29] <ubermonzie> may be you can get binaries.. agreed the repo will work better
[08:29] <transgress> look...add the repo in that wiki, apt-get update... open synaptic, and search j2re
[08:29] <transgress> and ubermonzie STFU and try to be helpful.
[08:29] <transgress> of course he can get binaries... it's all that is offered
[08:29] <ubermonzie> same to you transgress
[08:29] <geetergod> can someone tell me whats wrong when i try to start doom3 i get this...http://pastebin.com/293133
[08:30] <transgress> geetergod: what vid card?
[08:30] <geetergod> NVidia GeForce III
[08:31] <transgress> glxinfo | grep direct
[08:31] <transgress> what's that give?
[08:31] <geetergod> that should run Doom3 correct?
[08:31] <ubermonzie> hey transgress , my glxinfo gives me a segmentation fault
[08:31] <ubermonzie> what should i do?
[08:32] <transgress> glxinfo segfaults?
[08:32] <ubermonzie> yes
[08:32] <transgress> umm
[08:32] <JohnFights> can anyone help me get my gnome working again on my one  user account it just keeps trying to load the menu/taskbar over and over when it first starts
[08:32] <transgress> like immediately?
[08:32] <p07r0457> http://pastebin.com/293136
[08:32] <Tyche> Shuddertrix: Do you know how to configure hula once installed?
[08:32] <p07r0457> that's what I'm using as my sources.list
[08:32] <p07r0457> j2re still not found
[08:33] <ubermonzie> and i manually upgraded from Warty to hoary (by changing the repos and download via apt-get)
[08:33] <transgress> JohnFights: try moving the .gconf2 and .gnome2 folders to somewhere else ... it'll start gnome back with the basic shit
[08:33] <JohnFights> thanks transgress i will try that
[08:33] <geetergod> transgress: think its something up with my vid card?
[08:34] <transgress> p07r0457: you still don't have the java repo's
[08:34] <ells> anyone here using gtkpod
[08:34] <transgress> geetergod: what did glxinfo | grep direct say?
[08:34] <sevets> excellent
[08:35] <sevets> VLC + frontend
[08:35] <p07r0457> where are they?
[08:35] <sevets> works
[08:35] <p07r0457> ubuntugude.org doesn't mention anything else
[08:35] <geetergod> glxinfo?
[08:35] <transgress> p07r0457: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[08:35] <Tyche> Has anyone used PPTP VPN?
[08:35] <geetergod> grep direct?
[08:35] <transgress> i never mention ubuntuguide... because i'm yet to not find a wiki
[08:35] <transgress> geetergod:  at a console type in "glxinfo | grep direct" and it will return a line back to you.  show me that line
[08:36] <ells> anyone here using gtkpod
[08:36] <geetergod> direct rendering: Yes
[08:36] <geetergod> i typed it in terminal
[08:36] <transgress> geetergod: hmm okay
[08:36] <transgress> geetergod: then it must have to do with the fact that it can't find that config file
[08:37] <ells> let me rephrase that, does anyone know how gtkpod actually works
[08:37] <transgress> geetergod: updatedb and then locate "name of the .cfg at the end of that error"
[08:37] <geetergod> hmm..
[08:37] <transgress> geetergod: ah yes... locate default.cfg
[08:37] <geetergod> fatal error: updatedb: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[08:38] <asynic> geetergod: sudo
[08:38] <transgress> sudo updatedb
[08:38] <geetergod> k
[08:38] <ram_einstein> what p2p doftware do you all use?
[08:38] <ram_einstein> I had limewire on Fedora
[08:38] <transgress> what is this p2p?
[08:38] <ram_einstein> but never liked it very much anyway
[08:38] <ram_einstein> peer to peer
[08:39] <ram_einstein> like kazaa
[08:39] <transgress> oh i use a phone to talk to my peers
[08:39] <ram_einstein> that lets you download stuff like music
[08:39] <transgress> kazaa?  isn't that a genie from that arabic book?
[08:39] <ram_einstein> !
[08:39] <ubotu> ram_einstein: Are you smoking crack?
[08:39] <geetergod> it did nothing when i did sudo updatedb
[08:39] <ram_einstein> ubotu, no, why?
[08:39] <ubotu> ram_einstein: I give up, what is it?
[08:39] <transgress> it did... it just didn't say anything
[08:39] <geetergod> didnt show anything anywya
[08:39] <transgress> geetergod: now locate default.cfg
[08:39] <ram_einstein> what's wrong with my question?
[08:40] <geetergod> just 'locate defaul.cfg' or sudo?
[08:40] <ram_einstein> all I wanted was something that lets me connect to other peers and download stuff like music
[08:40] <transgress> ram_einstein: this is a help channel and not a pirates channel
[08:40] <transgress> just locate will suffice
[08:40] <ram_einstein> transgress, it's perfectly legal
[08:40] <jorgp> what is the name and password for cups?
[08:40] <ram_einstein> there's absolutely nothing wrong with it
[08:41] <transgress> ram_einstein: don't act like we are idiots
[08:41] <transgress> although i use bittorrent myself
[08:41] <transgress> ;)
[08:41] <ram_einstein> ... and how do I add a printer here?
[08:41] <ram_einstein> bittorrent id for torrents
[08:41] <arc1> quick question guys, what is the defult root login in ubuntu
[08:41] <geetergod> 'locate default.cfg' did nothing
[08:41] <ram_einstein> I want to connect to the eDonkey etc networks
[08:41] <transgress> geetergod: that's your problem then... for some reason you don't have a file needed by doom3
[08:42] <geetergod> hm
[08:42] <ram_einstein> what's "defulat root login" arc1
[08:42] <geetergod> iiiiinteresting
[08:42] <arc1> yeah
[08:42] <arc1> i guess what i thought i types in for my user password and what i guess i typed in is diffrent
[08:42] <nern> hey hey hey
[08:43] <arc1> so i cant log in
[08:43] <nern> what up with it gangstars
[08:43] <ram_einstein> how do I add a usb printer!?
[08:43] <geetergod> that sucks
[08:43] <ram_einstein> the device manager lists it allright
[08:43] <ram_einstein> but how do I install it?
[08:43] <nern> hmm i have a usb printer but ive never tried to use it since i installed ubuntu since i never print anything... hmmm
[08:44] <Swordxl> ALguein vivo?
[08:44] <ram_einstein> nern, any damn printer! how do I instal hardware here?
[08:44] <ram_einstein> other than plug n' play stuff
[08:44] <nern> lemme look for a second
[08:44] <ram_einstein> got it
[08:44] <ram_einstein> sorry
[08:44] <nern> main menu > system >admin > printing
[08:45] <nern> got iy?
[08:45] <ram_einstein> it was in system>admn
[08:45] <ram_einstein> yeah
[08:45] <nern> YES
[08:45] <geetergod> transgress: what do you recomend i do?
[08:45] <ram_einstein> thanks
[08:45] <p07r0457> system > admin>printing
[08:45] <nern> me and you
[08:45] <nern> see
[08:45] <nern> same wavelength
[08:45] <ram_einstein> a little late in the day p07r0457
[08:45] <transgress> geetergod: i'd probably search on the cd for it
[08:45] <p07r0457> aye
[08:45] <ws003> hai  sopo neng kono
[08:45] <geetergod> for default.cfg?
[08:45] <transgress> yes
[08:45] <geetergod> k
[08:46] <ram_einstein> how do I view my pppoe connection? set up using pppoeconf
[08:46] <ws003> he kono kuwi sopo ? kok ra jawab-jawab
[08:46] <ram_einstein> poff turns it off
[08:46] <ram_einstein> pon ? truns it on?
[08:46] <geetergod> I see a default.htm
[08:47] <Tyche> anyone here use hula for a MTA?
[08:47] <ram_einstein> hell-0! how do I view my pppoe connections!?
[08:47] <geetergod> i did a search for default.cfg on the disk, nothing
[08:48] <transgress> hmm
[08:48] <JohnnyRotten> transgress, thanks it worked :)
[08:48] <transgress> iuno... i haven't installed doom3... i didn't much like it
[08:48] <transgress> JohnnyRotten: np
[08:48] <transgress> JohnnyRotten: what did i fix for you?
[08:48] <JohnnyRotten> my gnome wouldnt start
[08:48] <transgress> JohnnyRotten: ah yes... i had the same problem two nights ago heh
[08:48] <JohnnyRotten> lol
[08:49] <JohnnyRotten> i figured it was just something that could be deleted just didn't know what I should remove
[08:49] <ram_einstein> ... okay if that question was too hard... how do I install k3b? apt-get install k3b provided I have the repos right?
[08:50] <transgress> yeah... technically you could probably clear it up w/o loosing your settings, but it's a PIA finding that one thing that is causing problems
[08:50] <geetergod> sudo apt-get install k3b
[08:50] <ram_einstein> k thanks geetergod
[08:50] <geetergod> sweet program ram_einstein
[08:50] <ram_einstein> I ususally sudo su - before doing these tasks anyway
[08:50] <JohnnyRotten> i didn't lose much i only installed ubuntu a little while ago
[08:50] <ram_einstein> I'm used to su -
[08:51] <p07r0457> well, I need sleep... goodnight everybody
[08:51] <ram_einstein> from fedora
[08:51] <djs> ram_einstein: ifconfig should show something about pppoe
[08:51] <ram_einstein> yeah thanks djs
[08:52] <ram_einstein> by what mechanism is it activated at startup?
[08:52] <ram_einstein> ... is kubuntu good?
[08:52] <JohnnyRotten> are there any themes like the human defualt except blue or some other color
[08:52] <djs> i think you can set it to do so in the network applet
[08:52] <ram_einstein> there's a #kubuntu! I'll ask
[08:53] <ws003> hello is some one there?
[08:53] <djs> System -> Administration -> Networking
[08:53] <uber_monzie> hi alll
[08:54] <ram_einstein> that doesn't list anything djs
[08:54] <ram_einstein> it only lists my network interfaces
[08:54] <ram_einstein> not connections
[08:54] <ram_einstein> certainly not my ppp0
[08:56] <Echelon-H> I'm here.. but im noob :P
[08:57] <JohnnyRotten> is there a way to have gnome apps look nice in kde while still having gnome apps look like gnome apps in gnome?
[08:57] <JohnnyRotten> when i downloaded that qt deb it made the package manager look bad whine in gnome
[08:57] <transgress> JohnnyRotten: umm... well when you go to kde it will keep the gnome theme you set for them... or should
[08:57] <JohnnyRotten> oops while
[08:58] <geetergod> transgress, when i put glxgears into terminal i get this...
[08:58] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ glxgears
[08:58] <geetergod> 12049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2409.800 FPS
[08:58] <geetergod> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[08:58] <JohnnyRotten> its not working that way :( lol
[08:59] <JohnnyRotten> while i am in gnome they have a kde colors/look
[08:59] <geetergod> does that mean somethings not right transgress?
[08:59] <transgress> geetergod: umm you have a video card problem... you get great FPS at first then it breaks your X... so i'd say something is definitely bad
[08:59] <geetergod> hm...
[08:59] <JohnnyRotten> it works okay while in kde
[08:59] <geetergod> 13313 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2662.600 FPS
[08:59] <geetergod> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[08:59] <geetergod> is that a good fps?
[08:59] <transgress> geetergod: that tends to happen to me on my one box when i run out of ram
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> how do I add a command I want to be executed on startup by any account if accessed on my local machine, after x has finished setting up?
[09:00] <geetergod> what could be wrong? i play Americas Army fine
[09:00] <transgress> geetergod: yeah that's damned good
[09:00] <JohnnyRotten> it will show the gnome theme/kde whatever i pick in kde but in gnome its messed up looking
[09:00] <ws003> some one want to see you
[09:00] <geetergod> any ideas what i should do?
[09:00] <transgress> no clue to be honest
[09:01] <uber_monzie> #
[09:01] <uber_monzie>     /msg nickserv set email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:01] <geetergod> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-51296.html
[09:01] <geetergod> check that out transgress
[09:01] <geetergod> that dude has the same problem
[09:01] <ram_einstein> I have to import a couple of GPG keys
[09:01] <JohnnyRotten> is there a way to fix this W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:01] <ram_einstein> please help me do that
[09:01] <geetergod> i think the last post might tell what to do
[09:02] <ram_einstein> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:02] <ram_einstein> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:02] <ram_einstein> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:02] <ram_einstein> sorry for pasting
[09:02] <nern> even though it doesnt verify you should still be able to use it
[09:02] <ram_einstein> how do you import the GPG keys?
[09:02] <nern> it will just prompt you that it couldnt verify and do you want to proceed?
[09:02] <ram_einstein> no nern
[09:02] <transgress> gpg --import-key
[09:02] <nern> no?
[09:03] <transgress> ram_einstein: tell it to in the apt config
[09:03] <ram_einstein> transgress, gpg --import-key what?
[09:03] <ram_einstein> *?
[09:03] <geetergod> see that link transgress?
[09:03] <transgress> ram_einstein: gpg --import-key keyfile.gpg
[09:03] <ram_einstein> invalif option --import-key
[09:04] <ram_einstein> what's wrong?
[09:04] <ram_einstein> man it and find out
[09:04] <ram_einstein> one sec
[09:04] <transgress> god hates you
[09:04] <geetergod> lol
[09:05] <geetergod>  "You need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$
[09:05] <geetergod> "pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$
[09:05] <geetergod> "${dir}/base before running the game."
[09:05] <geetergod> "To play the game run:"
[09:05] <geetergod> " doom3"
[09:05] <geetergod> that guy says thats what u need to do
[09:05] <transgress> then go for it
[09:05] <ram_einstein> can't open keyfile
[09:05] <transgress> not like it can get anymore broken geetergod
[09:05] <transgress> i'm so not drunk. i don't touch alcohol
[09:05] <syntaxman> Which is newer, Hoary or Warty?
[09:06] <nern> alcohol is not my favorite
[09:06] <geetergod> how do i copy those?
[09:06] <ram_einstein> sudo gpg --import keyfile.gpg
[09:06] <ram_einstein> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file "/home/lilram/.gnupg/gpg.conf"
[09:06] <ram_einstein> gpg: can't open `keyfile.gpg': No such file or directory
[09:06] <ram_einstein> gpg: Total number processed: 0
[09:06] <nern> hoary
[09:06] <transgress> although pot grows in the earth.  so i don't mind it.
[09:06] <nern> warty is the old one
[09:06] <ram_einstein> what's wrong?
[09:06] <JohnnyRotten> transgress, do you know what might be wrong that themes dont show up right in gnome when that qt deb is installed?
[09:06] <transgress> geetergod: cp *pk* might do it
[09:06] <nern> ooooh i love me some pot
[09:06] <nern> thats my favorite thing ever
[09:06] <ram_einstein> can someone give me decent repos?
[09:06] <ram_einstein> k3b isn't on mine
[09:07] <syntaxman> nern: thanks...  I can not run any scripts! gives me "permission denied!"
[09:11] <transgress> that's so funny, because i know quite a few people who take it to calm them down.
[09:11] <ram_einstein> uber_monzie, I don't like xfce!
[09:11] <uber_monzie> why ram_einstein ?
[09:11] <uber_monzie> its good
[09:11] <ram_einstein> it certainly doesn't look nice
[09:11] <Nic> i have mates that do that too
[09:11] <JohnFights> i think xfce is looks nice
[09:12] <uber_monzie> install a decent theme.. or make your own.. but it's real fast
[09:12] <Nic> like i said everything in moderation
[09:12] <transgress> i know psychaitrists that tell their patients to do so
[09:12] <ram_einstein> :)
[09:12] <uber_monzie> although i hate xffm ..
[09:12] <Nic> i still hate the stuff tho
[09:12] <ram_einstein> probably
[09:12] <uber_monzie> thats bad
[09:12] <ram_einstein> I'll stick with gnome for now
[09:12] <ram_einstein> anyway, I need a apt.sources file quickly
[09:12] <Nic> are u transgress off TA?
[09:12] <uber_monzie> enlightenment anyone?
[09:12] <nern> okay this may not look like much but it will tap you into lots
[09:12] <nern> http://pastebin.ca/13081
[09:12] <transgress> k3b is very much in the hoary repo
[09:12] <ram_einstein> no enlightenent
[09:13] <ram_einstein> okay then give me a proper apt.sources file
[09:13] <ram_einstein> mine is screwed
[09:13] <nern> http://pastebin.ca/13081
[09:13] <nern> http://pastebin.ca/13081
[09:13] <ram_einstein> I screwed it
[09:13] <nern> there
[09:13] <kimo> any help with this weirdo problem
[09:13] <nern> if you want the sources just copy those and make the deb in front deb-src
[09:13] <transgress> Nic: TA?
[09:13] <nern> i dont bother with sources
[09:13] <uber_monzie> will paste it in your window ram_einstein
[09:13] <Nic> obviously not :P
[09:13] <nern> thats cuz i suck
[09:13] <transgress> what is TA?
[09:14] <ram_einstein> that's all I need nern?
[09:14] <Nic> tranceaddict
[09:14] <ram_einstein> okay uber_monzie
[09:14] <nern> yeah thats the hoary main universe and multiverse shit there
[09:14] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[09:14] <transgress> ah nope... not i.  although i do sometimes like trance... but i'm more of a bob marley, tool, RATM, mudvayne, dresden dolls type person
[09:14] <nern> k3b certainly be there
[09:15] <nern> i use more than just that though, but i use the backports and no one else likes to do that
[09:15] <nern> i love me some backports
[09:15] <johnnybezak> backports ey....
[09:16] <ram_einstein> that's my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/293142
[09:16] <ram_einstein> is there anything wrong with it?
[09:16] <uber_monzie> i just gave it to ya, ram_einstein
[09:17] <ram_einstein> ya but it's too hard to copy
[09:17] <nern> i would just comment out or delete the cd just because you can get everything online, but thats up to you
[09:17] <JasonF> I'm trying to figure out what my USB Webcam identifies itself as
[09:17] <JasonF> so I can see if the spca5xx driver will work for it
[09:17] <JasonF> I've seached /proc, and I can't find where to find info on attached USB devices
[09:17] <transgress> JasonF: did you try running lspci?
[09:17] <geetergod> ggrrrr this is driving me nuts
[09:17] <JasonF> transgress: only lists the USB controllers, not the devices
[09:18] <geetergod>  "You need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$
[09:18] <geetergod> "pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$
[09:18] <geetergod> "${dir}/base before running the game."
[09:18] <geetergod> "To play the game run:"
[09:18] <geetergod> " doom3"
[09:18] <geetergod> what the hell does this mean?
[09:18] <transgress> JasonF: ah you are right
[09:18] <transgress> JasonF: what type of cam?
[09:18] <geetergod> copy it? copy it and do what?
[09:18] <JasonF> transgress: that's what I'm trying to figure out
[09:18] <nern> just copy it i guess
[09:18] <JasonF> I have a list of USB identifiers that work with this driver
[09:18] <transgress> geetergod: you need to copy it to where ever the game is installed to
[09:18] <nern> those would be the big files the game reads
[09:19] <JasonF> I just need to get the one for my cam
[09:19] <geetergod> copy what?
[09:19] <transgress> JasonF: do you at least know the brand?
[09:19] <JasonF> I know there's GOT to be a way to do it in linux
[09:19] <JasonF> it's a labtec
[09:19] <nern> so if you copy those into the game dir then you could run doom3 and play it
[09:19] <JasonF> but I think it's really just a rebranded logiteck QC
[09:19] <nern> copy the pk files
[09:19] <JasonF> that's why I want to get the USB device ID
[09:20] <ram_einstein> how do I get a project planner?
[09:20] <ram_einstein> it ws there on my office list
[09:20] <ram_einstein> in add/remove programs gui
[09:20] <ram_einstein> on my desktop computer
[09:20] <ram_einstein> it isn't here
[09:20] <ram_einstein> why?
[09:20] <geetergod> copy 'pak000.pk4' and put it someplace?
[09:20] <ram_einstein> what geetergod?
[09:20] <ram_einstein> what's that file?
[09:20] <nern> copy all those pk files it told you to, and copy them into the game base dir and then you should be good to go
[09:21] <geetergod> i dont know, heres what i have to do...
[09:21] <ram_einstein> add/remove programs lists some programs in my gnome menu
[09:21] <geetergod> You need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$
[09:21] <geetergod> "pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$
[09:21] <geetergod> "${dir}/base before running the game."
[09:21] <geetergod> "To play the game run:"
[09:21] <geetergod> " doom3"
[09:21] <ram_einstein> but it doesn't have project planner
[09:21] <geetergod> where are the pk files tho?
[09:21] <ram_einstein> I want project planner
[09:21] <nern> on the cd
[09:21] <ram_einstein> how do I get it on the add/remove programs list
[09:21] <ram_einstein> how do I take it from the cd!?
[09:22] <nern> cp command prolly
[09:22] <nern> sorry im talking to geeter
[09:22] <ram_einstein> ah got it thanks nern!
[09:22] <JasonF> hah! I was correct
[09:22] <JasonF> logitech quickcam in disguise
[09:22] <nern> i donno whats going on
[09:22] <ram_einstein> all thanks to you I got my repos up too!
[09:22] <ram_einstein> thanks a lot nern!
[09:22] <nern> yep
[09:22] <nern> i love the ubuntu repos
[09:22] <geetergod> pak000.pk4 wasnt found on the CD
[09:22] <nern> they are so good
[09:23] <nern> fast and up to date
[09:23] <nern> debian repos are weird
[09:23] <ram_einstein> :)
[09:23] <nern> like even unstable is not up to date
[09:23] <nern> anyway
[09:23] <nern> im out
[09:23] <ram_einstein> I'm out too
[09:24] <geetergod> can anyone help me here?
[09:25] <m0r0n> geetergod, just ask your question
[09:26] <geetergod> welp. im tring to play doom 3...
[09:26] <geetergod> Unknown command 'vid_restart'
[09:26] <geetergod> idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
[09:26] <geetergod> Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[09:26] <geetergod> i get that message at the bottom part of when i type 'doom3' in the terminal...
[09:26] <geetergod> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-51296.html
[09:26] <geetergod> this is the exact problem i have in that link
[09:27] <Danko3> hey, so what was up with that, we haev  new users, it seems:)
[09:27] <Tyche> anyone use webmin?
[09:27] <geetergod> if u go to that link it'll be the same prob i have.
[09:28] <geetergod> exept my fps is a lot higher than that
[09:28] <Danko3> geetergod: is that a native linux version of doom3?
[09:29] <geetergod> i dunno
[09:29] <Burgundavia> Danko3, yes
[09:29] <JohnFights> what are some good theme sites for gnome/kde and stuff like customizing
[09:30] <geetergod> i dont understand what the persons trying to say here...
[09:30] <geetergod>  "You need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$
[09:30] <geetergod> "pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$
[09:30] <geetergod> "${dir}/base before running the game."
[09:30] <geetergod> "To play the game run:"
[09:30] <geetergod> " doom3"
[09:30] <Burgundavia> JohnFights, gnome-look.org
[09:31] <geetergod> i have pak002.pk4 on the CD
[09:32] <guptan> is it safe to install newer pango release from tar ball? ( I need to some character rendering for indic fonts)
[09:33] <bigfoot> which is the fastest-loading pre-installed program for plain-text files?
[09:33] <prasys> hello guys
[09:33] <prasys> got question
[09:33] <bigfoot> How do I remove some of the applications listed in the "Open With..."  dialog window?
[09:33] <prasys> first of all I am using uBuntu err, both on x86 and ppc
[09:33] <prasys> i got a question
[09:33] <JohnFights> pico?vim?
[09:34] <bigfoot> JohnFights, were you talking to me? if so, are pico and vim faster loading than gedit?
[09:34] <JohnFights> nano
[09:34] <JohnFights> yes
[09:34] <prasys> can i install kubuntu on vpc 7 for OSX
[09:35] <prasys> i need to compile x86 builds on the mac
[09:35] <JohnFights> they all load fast
[09:35] <prasys> on the go
[09:35] <ws003> hallo is your name really aziz?
[09:35] <iceman> anyone use windowmaker ... i need to reconfig it to run at 800x600
[09:35] <bigfoot> Regarding, the "Open With" window, for example, I don't think I 'll ever be opening a file with Frozen Bubble, or any of the other games. So please tell me how to remove some of the entries from the list? (While keeping the programs on my system, of course!)
[09:36] <geetergod> someones gotta be able to help me :)
[09:36] <Stalagna> ?? Can someone help me get my .mpg's to play?
[09:37] <guptan> Why does ubuntu  call it libpango* while other distros  refer to it as
[09:37] <guptan> pango? and why is it version1.0 not 1.2 in hoary?
[09:38] <sri__> breezy broken again
[09:38] <sri__> !
[09:38] <ubotu> sri__: Wish i knew
[09:38] <sri__> !
[09:38] <dmoyne> I want to pursue my bug investigation with CUPS and Ubuntu ; anyone to help ?
[09:38] <Danko3> Burgundavia: yes what, his version is natuive linux doom3?
[09:38] <Burgundavia> Danko3, there is a native doom3 version for linux
[09:38] <prasys> what
[09:38] <Burgundavia> Danko3, I think you can download the client from the website
[09:38] <prasys> native version
[09:39] <Danko3> well, I was asking him if he ahd that one...
[09:39] <geetergod> how do i tell?
[09:39] <Stalagna> Any ideas how to play MPG movies?
[09:39] <sri__> ubotu /etc/X11/X is not executable ... when starting X
[09:39] <ubotu> ...but /etc/x11/x is already something else...
[09:39] <dmoyne>     I want to pursue my bug investigation with CUPS and Ubuntu ; anyone to help ?
[09:39] <sri__> ubotu .. yes symlink .. which finally repeats
[09:39] <ubotu> sri__: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:39] <bigfoot> any fast-loading non-terminal/console program to read text files? Coz VIM and Nano are very fast to load, but it's hard to do editing, such as select all and delete? JohnFights
[09:40] <geetergod> Danko3: how do i check if i have the native version?
[09:40] <sri__> ubotu /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/Xorg -> ../../X11R6/bin/Xorg -> (points itself)
[09:40] <ubotu> You are moron #1, sri__
[09:40] <athlon> does regular user need rsyncd ? I am trying to speed up ubuntu's start up time. I wonder if removing rsyncd from rc2.d is a good idea.
[09:41] <bob2> sri__: dude, it's a bot
[09:41] <Danko3> geetergod: where had you gotten it from?
[09:41] <bigfoot> I was thinking Gedit, but i wonder if there's any program  that loads faster... thanks.
[09:41] <bob2> athlon: no, you don't, it's safe to remove it
[09:41] <geetergod> I have the retail CD
[09:41] <bob2> athlon: but it doesn't run by default anyway, unless you edit /etc/default/rsync
[09:41] <bob2> sri__: dude, ubotu is a BOT
[09:41] <athlon> okay, thanks
[09:41] <sri__> bob2 :O
[09:42] <Danko3> nice:)
[09:42] <sri__> ubotu stfu
[09:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg
[09:42] <sri__> haha
[09:42] <geetergod> and Shuddertrix gave me the command to type in terminal to downloaded the Doom3 linux installer
[09:42] <athlon> rofl
[09:42] <ws003> hai ziz why dont you answer me ?
[09:42] <Danko3> awesome, please dont abuse the bot, sorry he is a little rude, I am about to reteach it manners...
[09:42] <Stalagna> can someone help me get my MPG's to play
[09:42] <Danko3> !restricted
[09:42] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:43] <geetergod> Danko3: you have any ideas what I should do?
[09:43] <Danko3> Stalagna: please visit the URL ubotu gave you.
[09:43] <Danko3> geetergod: you have a retail cd of doom3?
[09:43] <geetergod> yes
[09:43] <bob2> cafuego: might want to unload the dpkg db there :)
[09:44] <Danko3> bob2: cafuego is not speaking, who did you mean?
[09:44] <Danko3> geetergod: ok, well, does it say on it what OS it is for?
[09:44] <bob2> Danko3: ?
[09:44] <bob2> Danko3: I meant cafuego, since he's runing ubotu.
[09:45] <Danko3> what do you mean by running?
[09:45] <geetergod> Danko3: where will it say?
[09:45] <Danko3> on the box.
[09:45] <geetergod> k
[09:45] <bob2> Danko3: as in it is running on a machine of his
[09:45] <Danko3> bob2: I still dont see why you said his name, I guess for when he scans the channel for messages?
[09:45] <freewoody> How do I get Samba running on my LAN
[09:45] <sri__> oops, getting fed up with this shit ...
[09:45] <sri__> breezy
[09:45] <geetergod> Pc CD-ROM     Windows 2000/XP
[09:45] <bob2> freewoody: pick. one. channel.
[09:46] <geetergod> Danko3: u mean that?
[09:46] <bob2> Danko3: his client will show it to him when he returns
[09:46] <Danko3> bob2: Ah, yes, you are correct, I have somethingt to talk to you about teh bot, tho...
[09:46] <Danko3> sri__: um, please dont swear?
[09:47] <sri__> dpkg: error processing twm
[09:47] <sri__> how to see what happened?
[09:47] <sri__> logs?
[09:47] <bob2> sri__: scroll up
[09:47] <sri__> at least somebody could help me fix this
[09:47] <sri__> bob2 nothing printed
[09:47] <bob2> sri__: yes, something else was printed
[09:47] <sri__> subprocess post-installation script returned with exit code 2
[09:47] <sri__> just that
[09:48] <bob2> no, scroll up further
[09:48] <bob2> and paste the whole thing to #flood
[09:48] <sri__> ok .. one line is there
[09:48] <johnnybe1ak> hey guys
[09:48] <geetergod> Danko3: you know how i should install it?
[09:48] <Danko3> bob2: well, I was gonna say dont upload dpkg on it, but...you can do that for a start, somewhat, and !moron needs to be removed... I would like to get involved with training  the bot, and I will. I work for Comcast tech support and I think I have some skills, and I think I could teach the bot nice, I have some ideas.
[09:48] <sri__> update-alternatives: slave link name /usr/share/man/man1/x-window-manager.1.gz duplicated
[09:48] <sri__> bob2 that one
[09:49] <bob2> sri__: so, when I said "scroll up" and you said "nothing printed", what did you mean?
[09:49] <Danko3> please join #cedega, geetergod, and ask them if they know, I asked if you can ask the other day, they said, sure, but taht you should consider using the naticve linux version
[09:49] <johnnybe1ak> what is the lowest memory use browser?
[09:49] <sri__> bob2 ok, now how to fix this?
[09:49] <johnnybe1ak> (not links :))
[09:49] <bob2> sri__: please, in future, be more careful
[09:50] <sri__> bob2 ok
[09:50] <sri__> enough giving advice
[09:50] <safezone> hi room
[09:50] <geetergod> where can i join #cedega?
[09:50] <bob2> sri__: sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[09:50] <sri__> what do you mean by slave link duplicated?
[09:50] <safezone> any one know the commad to change password
[09:50] <bob2> safezone: passwd
[09:50] <Danko3> bob2: I believe we should have a polite bot, and you will agree:) anyhow, I think that we need to make the channel better, as you said, but, still differrent from debian, cause what, we dont wanna be exactly like them, and I dont think a lot of dpkg's phrases are very "ubuntu" I am really psyched about training this bot...
[09:50] <bob2> safezone: but it's best not to change the root password
[09:50] <Danko3> geetergod: /join #cedega
[09:51] <bob2> Danko3: yes, I think it'd be better to start with a blank db, and more polite error messages
[09:51] <geetergod> k
[09:51] <sri__> bob2 yes, did that .. but stil getting *same* error
[09:51] <safezone> i don't know it thats why i need to change it
[09:52] <bob2> safezone: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:52] <bob2> safezone: there's no need to change or set it
[09:52] <Danko3> not only that, but, even more informative than some, yeah, I mean, I cant saay it all in 2 words, now, I am even planning on sending yuo guys at canonical an email, I think I would be a fairly good person to train the bot, since I havce customer service skills, and so on... tech support, and that...
[09:52] <safezone> then how can i change it
[09:52] <bob2> safezone: why do you want to change it?
[09:52] <safezone> i need to log as root
[09:52] <bob2> safezone: what are you trying to do?
[09:52] <bob2> safezone: why?
[09:52] <safezone> i need to log as root
[09:52] <bob2> Danko3: anyone can train it
[09:52] <bob2> safezone: why do you need to login as root?
[09:52] <Danko3> no, sure, but, not as good as me:-p is what I mean...
[09:52] <safezone> change resolution
[09:52] <psychonate> 3:52 AM, and I have finals today heh
[09:53] <Choubaka> safezone: use sudo
[09:53] <bob2> safezone: you don't need to login as root to do that
[09:53] <bob2> Danko3: we are not going to have a bot only you can change, sorry
[09:54] <sri__> bob2 i did --remove-all . .. andnow it worked
[09:54] <bob2> sri__: cool
[09:54] <bob2> I wasn't sure if that was safe or not
[09:54] <sri__> bob2, but now when I run 'startx' it says /etc/X11/X is not executable (same cyclic link problem)
[09:54] <bob2> Danko3: I would encourage you to add useful things to both the bot and the wiki, now, tho
[09:54] <athlon> safezone, just do "sudo su" if you really want to get root shell
[09:54] <bob2> sri__: please tell me you're not using breezy
[09:54] <bob2> sri__: because then I will have to be all annoyed at you
[09:55] <bob2> safezone: if you really think you need a root shell, "sudo -s" will get you one, once you're logged in as your normal user
[09:55] <Danko3> bob2: hehe, no, that is not what I meant...just I am sure you have admins that monitor it somehow, (for dpkg, ubotu is new, you prolly dont) and I dont expect you to let me admin it right away, off course I need to show you I am worth something... but I have the will and some ideas, anyhow, as it is open source:) we will all work on it, and synergyze  on it, however you spell that word.
[09:55] <sri__> bob2 I am using breezy
[09:55] <ilba7r> bob2 hi do you know of any good pdf editor under linux
[09:55] <bob2> sri__: so, you should know to search the mailing list archives yourself then
[09:56] <bob2> sri__: breezy is expected to be broken for the near future, please don't use it if you don't want to fix things yourself
[09:56] <sri__> bob2 first mistake
[09:56] <bob2> ilba7r: I only know of one very basic one called "panda", but I'm not sure if it's usable or not
[09:56] <Danko3> bob2: hey you like my nick? it is kinda similar to yours...
[09:56] <Tallia1> hei guys, sometimes i has  a problem with the latest version of firefox.. but reading on a forum i've found that could be a problem due to the changing i've made from gnome to kde..
[09:57] <ilba7r> thanx bob2 i found that kword of the koffice do it but the fonts rendering is so bad thanx for your feedback
[09:57] <bob2> Danko3: the people (if any) who monitor it do not have any special abilities to modify data
[09:57] <bob2> Danko3: just using the regular IRC interface to add and alter factoids is all I'd expect anyone (including myself) to ever have to do
[09:57] <Danko3> bob2: well, that should be obvious why it sucks, not being able to limit who can abuse whatever he wants into the bot...
[09:57] <bob2> Danko3: dpkg is maintained like that, except in cases of extreme abuse
[09:58] <sri__> bob2 me on console, give me some hint
[09:58] <freewoody> Well Debian and Ubuntu are almost the same channel
[09:58] <bob2> Danko3: people who abuse the bot will be banned from using it, and people who abuse others in here, directly or via the bot will be removed from here, too
[09:58] <Danko3> bob2: I just think you didnt hear the part where I said I deal with 60ish customers every day, all for tech support...
[09:58] <bob2> safezone: please don't /msg me
[09:58] <sri__> bob2 ok, how reinstall (without removing in middle) a package?
[09:59] <bob2> Danko3: that's great that you have skills like that, and they are certainly appreciated
[09:59] <safezone> ok  sorry
[09:59] <bob2> Danko3: I'm not sure why you think you need some special access to the bot, tho...I've never used my admin access for ubotu, and I don't have admin access to dpkg.
[09:59] <safezone> but how do i cahnge resolution from shell
[09:59] <bob2> and I like to think I can be helpful sometimes ;p
[09:59] <bob2> safezone: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:00] <bob2> sri__: reinstall = deleting partition contents and reinstalling everything from scratch
[10:00] <Danko3> bob2: also, very hard to define abuse, how will you react when people start replacing wiki entries with ubuntuguide.org no, never said special access, just for stuff like aI just said, to be able to keep the bot in a state as it is, perhaps only allow appending to everyone, not overwriting for example !restricted
[10:00] <Danko3> do you get where I am coming from with that?
[10:01] <Danko3> I need no special access.
[10:01] <Danko3> for one, for other, I dont think that the bot at debian can not be made better.
[10:01] <Danko3> so, I would like to try, is all.
[10:01] <Danko3> Just wanted to announce to you:)
[10:02] <Danko3> stop turning me away!...jj.
[10:02] <bob2> I know dpkg's database coule be improved, and I hope ubotu is not abused
[10:02] <sri__> bob2 i just need the /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg executable